[12:00] <nalioth> thompa: read this and perform: type /msg ubotu restricted
[12:00] <tga> mirak, yes, instead of making a linux partition you make a lvm partition and install in that
[12:00] <tga> mirak, I think the installer helps you with that
[12:00] <Seveas> esac, nothing useful shows up
[12:00] <Inf3ctedfx> mirak:  when u install ubuntu, automatically recognize another partition on ur HDD, and mount the group by itself
[12:00] <Seveas> ask in #gentoo ;)
[12:00] <Jowi> mumbles: easiest setup (i have this): read the manual for your router. setup dhcp on the router. tell dhcp to always give your server computer the same ip address (for example 192.168.0.50)
[12:01] <Inf3ctedfx> so, when u boot ur box, it will show u which OS u want to start.. Linux or Windows
[12:01] <Chinaman> can anyone help me with ALSA?
[12:01] <thompa> nalioth: ok wiki says simply: sudo apt-get install realplayer
[12:02] <Jowi> mumbles: that way, your computer recieve its ip from dhcp, but it will always recieve the same address. no change will need to be made on your pc.
[12:03] <gary_> Inf3ctedfx get VLC it plays everything (except Realmedia) out of the box, without the need for codec searches
[12:03] <Hikaru79> How can I escape spaces in /etc/exports ? The usual \ doesn't seem to work. Anyone know?
[12:03] <thompa> nalioth: thanks. got it.
[12:03] <jodua_> ok...I just restarted yet again because I can't stay connected...can anyone help?
[12:04] <mirak> Inf3ctedfx I don't want to do an install
[12:04] <gary_> Inf3ctedfx http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[12:04] <mumbles> goes to messabout with his router
[12:04] <Inf3ctedfx> gary_: which one?
[12:04] <UbuntuOne> Hello people
[12:04] <mirak> Inf3ctedfx I already have a linux install that I just want to move to another hard drive
[12:04] <gary_> see my earlier url
[12:04] <gary_> It's above your ?
[12:04] <nalioth> Hikaru79: use "quotes"
[12:04] <Seveas> Hikaru79, If an export name contains spaces it should be quoted using double quotes
[12:04] <Seveas> from the manpage...
[12:04] <UbuntuOne> I made a Ubuntu support site, so check it out: www.whereisanykey.com
[12:04] <Hikaru79> Ah, thank you!
[12:04] <janne_Newbie> Hi all! What means command: aptitude purge <file>
[12:04] <UbuntuOne> You may also join support team if you want
[12:05] <Seveas> janne_Newbie, <file> is a package name
[12:05] <Seveas> and that package will be removed from your system
[12:05] <Inf3ctedfx> what I'm unbderstand is everytime u want to boot on linuxor windows using another HDD like an slave HDD u have to go first to BIOS and select which HDD u want to boot forst mirak
[12:05] <Blissex> UbuntuOne: put a link on the Ubuntu Wiki
[12:05] <Inf3ctedfx> thx gary_
[12:05] <janne_Newbie> no....i ment that aptitude purge....i just yesterday use it to remove firefox....
[12:05] <Jowi> mumbles: if your ROUTER recieved different ip-addresses from your internet provider, there is two options: 1: purchase a static ip from your provider. 2: if your router supports it, use the free services that www.dyndns.org offers.
[12:05] <mirak>  Inf3ctedfx no
[12:06] <janne_Newbie> and later i used command: aptitude install.....
[12:06] <UbuntuOne> Ok, I am going blissex. Once again, you may join support team, or you may just ask for support :)
[12:06] <Penguin> hello, I'm searching with google and ubuntuforums but I cant find the solution, I have compiled mplayer on my own, that worked, but the problem is that video's on fullscreen are showing only half a part of it, I think it has to do with my monitor setup, its twinview
[12:06] <Jowi> s/recieved/recieves
[12:06] <butcherbird> mirak: "dd" if same computer might be what you want if im understanding correctly
[12:06] <janne_Newbie> what is difference of these? apt-get and aptitude?
[12:07] <Seveas> janne_Newbie, different tools that perform the same task
[12:07] <Jowi> janne_Newbie: aptitude has a sortof interface :)
[12:07] <Bigbeaver> Just installed Sun's java.. Everything works file.. But dose anyone have any idea how to get Java working in Firefox? I'm sure its just a symbolic link somewhere but not sure of the exact locations. Thanks.
[12:07] <mirak> butcherbird it's not the same computer, but I can boot on this system, it's fine. What I want to do is move a normal linux install, on a hard drive that use LVM. I guess I can't use dd
[12:08] <janne_Newbie> ok....so i can uninstall package libqt3c102-mt with command: sudo aptitude purge libqt3c102-mt
[12:08] <zephyrmaster> Umm... how can I write to a FAT32 partition?
[12:08] <zephyrmaster> It won't let me
[12:09] <graham> has anyone else had problems detecting the network card during installation?
[12:09] <Seveas> janne_Newbie, yes indeed
[12:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zephyrmaster about windowsdrives
[12:09] <Penguin> I think I have to recompile or somthing with an option, dunno what
[12:10] <Jowi> Penguin: i think there is a "zoom" option for mplayer. have you tried it?
[12:10] <janne_Newbie> nice....and does it help to put my skype to work....bec i have unresolvable dependencies with that package....?
[12:10] <janne_Newbie> like this: skype:
[12:10] <janne_Newbie>   Riippuvuudet: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed
[12:10] <Jowi> janne_Newbie: Skype need the qtc102-mt package
[12:11] <Penguin> gona search the zoom option
[12:11] <inupie> hi
[12:11] <mumbles-other> wonders why disconected
[12:11] <janne_Newbie> yes but it wont let me install it bec i have that unresolvable dependencies...
[12:11] <Jowi> Penguin: it was years ago i used mplayer. think you just type "mplayer -zoom filename.avi" o something...
[12:11] <Ofe> ubontu: tell ofe about windowsdrives
[12:11] <Seveas> janne_Newbie, hoary?
[12:11] <Seveas> or breezy?
[12:11] <Ofe> me too please, I will have the same problem. ^^
[12:12] <janne_Newbie> yes...
[12:12] <Seveas> which one?
[12:12] <janne_Newbie> is there some force install command...?
[12:12] <Kyral> apt-get -f install
[12:12] <inupie> can somebody tell me how can i know the package that provides libXaw3d.so.7 ?
[12:12] <Seveas> janne_Newbie, hoary or breezy?
[12:13] <janne_Newbie> hoary( 5.04)
[12:13] <janne_Newbie> is that breezy that new one...
[12:13] <Trashcan> yeah
[12:13] <Trashcan> 5.10
[12:13] <zephyrmaster> Hmm
[12:13] <Trashcan> so by preview do they mean beta? or rc?
[12:13] <zephyrmaster> It says the drive is already mounted or busy
[12:14] <zephyrmaster> Under the Disks Manager I made a folder as an access path for the partition
[12:14] <Seveas> janne_Newbie, get http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/skype-hoary.deb
[12:14] <zephyrmaster> Is that not smart? Because I can see the files, just not edit them
[12:14] <Seveas> that will install on hoary with sudo dpkg -i skype-hoary.deb
[12:14] <zephyrmaster> I can't delete the folder either
[12:14] <xandra> hi guys
[12:14] <janne_Newbie> ok...ill try
[12:14] <xandra> can someone help me
[12:14] <g|patrick> hi
[12:14] <g|patrick> need help ;(
[12:14] <Seveas> Trashcan, the preview release is an RC
[12:14] <Trashcan> alright
[12:14] <g|patrick> have accedently deleted the upper toolbar in gnome
[12:15] <g|patrick> how can i restore it
[12:15] <nalioth> g|patrick: ask a question. don't state the obvious
[12:15] <Seveas> g|patrick, click on the lower, select 'New panel'
[12:15] <xandra> how can i install my ati drivers to work with 3d accelari
[12:15] <Seveas> !tell xandra about ati
[12:15] <tga> hmm.. no postgresql 8 packages for Ubuntu?
[12:15] <g|patrick> Seveas: and then?
[12:15] <g|patrick> i dont mean to drag'n'drop it back
[12:15] <odd-> Brb
[12:15] <nalioth> Seveas: it's time for bed. you are typing faster then i am lately
[12:15] <g|patrick> that doesnt work
[12:15] <iiiears> xandra "fglrx" drivers for ati
[12:15] <xandra> yes
[12:15] <g|patrick> the tray funciton isnt displayed
[12:15] <inupie> can somebody tell me how can i know the package that provides libXaw3d.so.7 ?      maybe Xaw3dg?
[12:15] <zephyrmaster> Can anyone help me?
[12:16] <zephyrmaster> I can't write to the partition, only read from it
[12:16] <zephyrmaster> It's FAT32
[12:16] <xandra> thank you seveas
[12:16] <Seveas> !info postgresql-8.0
[12:16] <iiiears> G'nite nalioth. :)
[12:16] <zephyrmaster> I made an access path as just a normal folder
[12:16] <Seveas> !info postgresql-8.0 breezy
[12:16] <g|patrick> gn8 nalioth
[12:16] <ubotu> postgresql-8.0: (object-relational SQL database, version 8.0 server), section misc, is optional. Version: 8.0.3-15ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2737 kB, Installed size: 12084 kB
[12:16] <iiiears> !ati
[12:16] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[12:16] <Jowi> zephyrmaster: you need to unmount the disk before you can add write permissions for it.
[12:16] <jmg> hmm i dont think ipython is working as it should
[12:16] <g|patrick> Seveas: whats next?
[12:16] <Seveas> tga, so only in breezy :)
[12:16] <zephyrmaster> Jowi, how do I unmount the disk?
[12:16] <g|patrick> how can i restore the default setup?
[12:16] <xandra> thank you iiiears
[12:16] <xandra> :)
[12:17] <zephyrmaster> The status says inaccessible
[12:17] <Seveas> g|patrick, readd everything that was on that panel
[12:17] <nalioth> zephyrmaster: ubotu sent you a msg, did you read it?
[12:17] <Jowi> zephyrmaster: sudo umount /dev/hda1 (for example)
[12:17] <iiiears> "linux community" ;)
[12:17] <g|patrick> Seveas: the tray function isnt in that tool
[12:17] <g|patrick> i couldnt restore it :(
[12:17] <Seveas> g|patrick, notification area
[12:17] <zephyrmaster> nalioth, I read and ran the script
[12:17] <Jowi> zephyrmaster: or... "sudo umount /path/to/mount"
[12:17] <zephyrmaster> It mounted the partition with Windows on it
[12:17] <zephyrmaster> But not the FAT 32 partition
[12:17] <nalioth> zephyrmaster: in /media you should be able to read and write to any fat32 stuff
[12:17] <Trashcan> man, my breezy update keeps slowing down
[12:18] <Trashcan> it started off at about 650kbs and now its at 40
[12:18] <g|patrick> Seveas: ah... i'll try
[12:18] <g|patrick> yaaaa :D
[12:18] <g|patrick> thank u Seveas
[12:18] <Trashcan> i probably should have added a CD source eh
[12:18] <Trashcan> since i already have it burned
[12:18] <Seveas> rofl
[12:18] <Seveas> yeah
[12:18] <cafuego_> Meh
[12:18] <Ofe> hey, someone who has the rights to the bot. "!ubotu tell Ofe about windrives" I will have problems with that.
[12:18] <procrastinationn> im here
[12:18] <Seveas> cafuego, moo
[12:18] <Penguin> nah zoom doesnt work, I think i need to recompile my mplayer with an option so he doesnt he I'm using such a big resolution or seeing that I'm using twinview
[12:18] <odd-> Back.
[12:18] <cafuego_> Seveas: hairy koo?
[12:18] <Seveas> cafuego_, get some coffe, grumpy ;)
[12:18] <Penguin> it worked with mplayer from teh repos
[12:19] <Trashcan> gah
[12:19] <Trashcan> im stupid
[12:19] <Trashcan> :(
[12:19] <Jowi> ubotu, tell Ofe about windowsdrives
[12:19] <Trashcan> 1h35m remaining
[12:19] <cafuego_> Seveas: I have a large MUG of espresso.
[12:19] <JustinHH> when i restart my computer, my grub does`t load ant more (error). now i am running the live cd :((
[12:19] <Trashcan> would be shorter just to reinstall
[12:19] <Seveas> cafuego_, good :)
[12:19] <JustinHH> gow can i reconfigure it?
[12:19] <iiiears> Hi cafuego :0
[12:19] <UbuntuOne> Having problems with Ubuntu? Fear no more. Visit www.whereisanykey.com and get solution for all your problems :p
[12:19] <Jowi> ubotu, tell zephyrmaster about windowsdrives
[12:19] <Trashcan> cafuego_ Seveas: I have a large MUG of espresso. <-- i love you
[12:19] <JustinHH> (i have lag)
[12:19] <Seveas> JustinHH, wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterINstallingWindows
[12:19] <cafuego_> Trashcan: get the hell away from my coffee!
[12:20] <g|patrick> just noticed something weired
[12:20] <Trashcan> :'(
[12:20] <Trashcan> but
[12:20] <Trashcan> IM COLD
[12:20] <iiiears> !grub
[12:20] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:20] <g|patrick> why are the performance states fo cool'n'quite not changing automatically
[12:20] <g|patrick> i always have to use that crappy tool ;(
[12:20] <Seveas> Trashcan, it's 8 am where he lives, he's just grumpy :)
[12:20] <Trashcan> :p
[12:20] <iiiears> ... erm - hope that helps
[12:20] <Trashcan> oh gawd its already 3:20 on saturday
[12:20] <Trashcan> where did the day go
[12:21] <g|patrick> called cpufreq monitor
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> time flys when doenloading porn.
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:21] <Trashcan> shh willis
[12:21] <iiiears> << - been playing UT2k4 for about 6 hours what is sleep?
[12:21] <g|patrick> isnt it possible to make it working as in windows
[12:21] <inupie> can somebody tell me how can i know the package that provides libXaw3d.so.7 ?      maybe Xaw3dg?
[12:21] <cafuego_> g|patrick: If you install powernowd, it will automagically adjust.
[12:21] <Trashcan> man if them bloody servers would keep me above 400kbs i'd  be fine :)
[12:22] <Trashcan> 277.. not bad
[12:22] <icewt> anyone happen to know a program that allows cutting mp3 files without quality loss? (for windows there's for example mp3trim)
[12:22] <cafuego_> g|patrick: and then the cpu freq applet on the panel will show you, too.
[12:22] <Leonik> i cannot access synaptic or anythign because it says its in use
[12:22] <Leonik> but nothing else is running
[12:22] <g|patrick> cafuego: it is installed
[12:22] <g|patrick> thats why i am confused
[12:22] <cafuego_> g|patrick: is it running?
[12:22] <Jowi> Leonik: close all programs that uses apt (aptitude and synaptic)
[12:23] <Pickle_Weasel> what port does ssh use?
[12:23] <cafuego_> 22
[12:23] <Leonik> nothing is running though
[12:23] <Trashcan> 22
[12:23] <Pickle_Weasel> thank you
[12:23] <Leonik> except xchat
[12:23] <g|patrick> cafuego: it is...
[12:23] <Trashcan> btw what is the command to shut down ssh?
[12:23] <Jowi> Leonik: try "killall synaptic"
[12:23] <cafuego_> 22/tcp to be exact.
[12:23] <Manawyddan> does anyone use Borland tools under Linux, and what is your opinion about it?
[12:23] <Leonik> oy nm
[12:23] <g|patrick> does it have problems wiht that cpufreq-tray?
[12:23] <Trashcan> i ended up uninstalling vsFTPd and openSSH because i couldn't figure out how to shut them off :)
[12:23] <Leonik> wheni  run glxgears in breezy i get terrible framerate and it doesnt report the fps
[12:23] <cafuego_> g|patrick: I use the standard thingie that comes with the panel-data package. Works fine.
[12:23] <Leonik> how can i fix this?
[12:24] <g|patrick> ya.. .me too
[12:24] <cafuego_> Trashcan: 'rcconf'.
[12:24] <g|patrick> its called cpufreq monitor
[12:24] <g|patrick> isnt it?
[12:24] <cafuego_> g|patrick: no.
[12:24] <g|patrick> no
[12:24] <cafuego_> "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor"
[12:24] <Trashcan> cafuego: command not found
[12:24] <nalioth> Leonik: type glxgears --help
[12:24] <Trashcan> no rcconf, no rconf, etc.
[12:25] <cafuego_> Trashcan: Correct, you need to install it.
[12:25] <Chinaman> crimsun: i need help
[12:25] <Trashcan> ahh roger :)
[12:25] <jrattner1> Iget the following error when starting armops: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual , any clues
[12:25] <g|patrick> in "add to panel" in utilities its called cpufreq monitor
[12:25] <Trashcan> thanks caf
[12:25] <iiiears> icewt - nice question (i'm a newb also) a quick google and it looks like mplayer is the right application.
[12:25] <Chinaman> crimsun: i need help with ALSA
[12:25] <iiiears> for resampling mp3s
[12:25] <crimsun> Chinaman, what's the issue?
[12:25] <cafuego_> g|patrick: No, it's also called "CPU Frequency Scaling Minitor" there for me.
[12:25] <Chinaman> well yesterday we got past the point of finding which driver to install
[12:25] <Chinaman> ca0106
[12:25] <Chinaman> and then you left
[12:26] <crimsun> Chinaman, all the instructions you need were given to you
[12:26] <Chinaman> hmm
[12:26] <crimsun> that's why I created that factoid
[12:26] <protok0l> how do i install perl modules?
[12:26] <protok0l> with apt
[12:26] <icewt> iiiears, hm.. thanks, i'll look into it then. i didn't know it could do that too ;)
[12:26] <Chinaman> crimsun: can you show me that again?
[12:27] <UbuntuOne> Do you have any questions or problems with Ubuntu?? visit www.whereisanykey.com and solve them :)
[12:27] <Trashcan> alright lets try this again
[12:27] <Trashcan> WOW
[12:27] <Trashcan> i put the breezy CD in
[12:27] <Trashcan> 'automatically upgrade
[12:27] <cafuego_> UbuntuOne: Please don't spam urls in here.
[12:27] <cafuego_> Trashcan: Neet eh :-)
[12:27] <iiiears> icewt, - also a nice script here for wma conversion to mp3  http://blogs.linux.ie/xeer/2005/08/16/how-to-convert-from-wma-to-mp3/
[12:28] <Trashcan> <--- impressed
[12:28] <Chinaman> crimsun: was it alsa-source?
[12:28] <UbuntuOne> Ok, sorry :p
[12:28] <mr_roboto> sorry for offtopic but does anyone here use Umbrello? nobody answering in #umbrello
[12:28] <jrattner1> Are there ati drivers for ubuntu
[12:29] <Jowi> yes jrattner1
[12:29] <jrattner1> Jowi, where are they available
[12:29] <crimsun> Chinaman, yes
[12:29] <Jowi> ubotu: tell jrattner1 about ati
[12:29] <spindley> which ftp clients do you guys use?
[12:29] <spindley> cause like, gftp really sucks
[12:29] <icewt> iiiears, ok, thanks. at the moment i'm just looking to cut a 4min. part out of a about 2 hour mp3 :)
[12:29] <mr_roboto> command line 'ftp' :)
[12:29] <cafuego_> lftp
[12:29] <g|patrick> i re
[12:29] <g|patrick> well
[12:29] <atila_sendil> hi all; any place to get backports ? the original site seems to be empty
[12:29] <g|patrick> now i lost most of my applets
[12:30] <spindley> i kinda liked kasablanca when i used it on gentoo
[12:30] <cafuego_> But usually 'wget' or 'sftp'.
[12:30] <g|patrick> and the slider to control the speed
[12:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell atila_sendil about backports
[12:30] <g|patrick> and the cool'n'quite doesnt clock either
[12:30] <g|patrick> crap
[12:30] <mr_roboto> cafuego, those aren't ftp clients though :)
[12:30] <mr_roboto> http and ssh clients
[12:30] <TokenBad> is there a way to in ubuntu to tell what a avi file in encoded with? I have one that keeps crashing mplayer cause it can't decode the audio..
[12:30] <Chinaman> crimsun: i did that
[12:30] <crimsun> Chinaman, did what? Be precise.
[12:30] <nalioth> TokenBad: in a terminal, type "file file.avi"
[12:31] <Chinaman> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source && cd /usr/src && sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source && cd modules/alsa-driver && sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build KVERS=$(uname -r) && sudo dpkg -i ../alsa-modules*.deb
[12:31] <Chinaman> that
[12:31] <inthenow> what do we need to get sympatico dsl running?
[12:31] <g|patrick> so why did THIS happen?
[12:31] <iiiears> icewt, - let me poke around a bit more. - gotta be an easier way than mplayer.
[12:31] <g|patrick> ;(
[12:31] <crimsun> Chinaman, then what's the issue?
[12:32] <Chinaman> crimsun: where do i go from there?
[12:32] <Chinaman> totem still doesn't play anything
[12:32] <TokenBad> nalioth, Try A Teen 6 DVDRip.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 496 x 368, 29.97 fps, video: DivX 5, audio: Dolby AC3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)
[12:32] <icewt> iiiears, i actually found one program, http://minnie.tuhs.org/Programs/Mpcut/index.html - i guess i would just need to compile it myself
[12:32] <Chinaman> and multimedia systems selector says my pipeline is invalid
[12:32] <crimsun> Chinaman, have you loaded snd-ca0106 like I told you yesterday?
[12:32] <inthenow> what will i need to get sympatico dsl working in ubuntu? what packages?
[12:32] <nalioth> TokenBad: so there you go. divx5
[12:32] <crimsun> uh ok.
[12:32] <TokenBad> the video it does..its the audio
[12:33] <Penguin> hello, I'm searching with google and ubuntuforums but I cant find the solution, I have compiled mplayer on my own, that worked, but the problem is that video's on fullscreen are showing only half a part of it, I think it has to do with my monitor setup, its twinview, if anybody knows a specific compiling option for this, pls tell
[12:33] <Penguin> zoom doesnt work
[12:33] <nalioth> TokenBad: you see all there is to know about the file
[12:33] <thompa> nalioth: do you know the directory of real player?
[12:33] <Kenneth2> Penguin: gmplayer -zoom file
[12:33] <TokenBad> is there a codec I need to do the audio?
[12:33] <thompa> i am at the installer but cant find it
[12:33] <Jowi> inthenow: what is "sympatico"?
[12:33] <Chinaman> crimsun: something happened to my gaim
[12:33] <inthenow> Jowi: dsl
[12:33] <atila_sendil> ty nalioth :-) bye all
[12:34] <nalioth> TokenBad: ac3?
[12:34] <Penguin> and what do I have todo then Kenneth2 ?
[12:34] <crimsun> Chinaman, have you loaded snd-ca0106 like I told you yesterday?
[12:34] <Penguin> still doenst work though
[12:34] <g|patrick> hello
[12:34] <inthenow> http://www.bell.ca/shop/PrsShpIntDslLite_Landing.page
[12:34] <Chinaman> crimsun: yes
[12:34] <iiiears> icewt - is "Audacity" any good? - or is there a limit to the file size you can edit?
[12:34] <Jowi> inthenow: dsl what? modem?
[12:34] <g|patrick> :(
[12:34] <TokenBad> I have all the codecs from the ubuntuguide page
[12:34] <inthenow> Jowi: http://www.bell.ca/shop/PrsShpIntDslLite_Landing.page
[12:34] <g|patrick> nobody notices me ;(
[12:34] <nalioth> iiiears: limited by your system
[12:34] <crimsun> Chinaman, cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:34] <nalioth> g|patrick: we see you.
[12:34] <g|patrick> really :)
[12:34] <Kenneth2> Penguin: If you use gui (gmplayer) then start gmplayer with the command "gmplayer -zoom" then open the file and chose "fullscreen".
[12:35] <iiiears> Thanks nalioth. :)
[12:35] <nalioth> iiiears: if you have a box with quad procs and 16gb ram, you can open a mighty big audio file
[12:35] <Chinaman> crimsun: we got to the point after i selected yes to debug and selected ca0106
[12:35] <icewt> iiiears, i think it would require re-encoding the file (?)
[12:35] <Chinaman> and then pressed ok
[12:35] <Jowi> inthenow: that page tells me nothing. is it your internet service provider?
[12:35] <crimsun> Chinaman, uh no, I meant did you modprobe snd-ca0106
[12:35] <Penguin> doesnt work Kenneth2, the video is still half of the screen
[12:35] <inthenow> Jowi: not mine, but im switching to it
[12:35] <Chinaman> i am currently in the /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver
[12:35] <Jowi> inthenow: (takes me to Bell canada)
[12:35] <iiiears> << liquid cooled celeron. (spilled coffee mostly.)
[12:35] <Kenneth2> Penguin: Does it work? Just installed mplayer myself. Im currently watching StarGate in fullscreen :)
[12:35] <Penguin> its not half, but its big
[12:36] <thompa> nevermind. i found the instructions
[12:36] <inthenow> Jowi: just wonder what packages are needed to switch
[12:36] <Chinaman> crimsun: i did not
[12:36] <inthenow> Jowi: cause its dsl
[12:36] <Penguin> I'm gonna make a screen shot tomorow, to tired, solving it for like 3 hours now, little bit pist off of it
[12:36] <Jowi> inthenow: if it is a normal dsl which uses a dsl-modem: it depends on what modem you recieve.
[12:36] <chrime> moin
[12:36] <Chinaman> crimsun: where do i do that
[12:36] <Kenneth2> Penguin: Does it fill the entire screen?
[12:36] <Penguin> yeah
[12:36] <g|patrick> have to restart
[12:36] <g|patrick> brb
[12:37] <inthenow> Jowi: the modem driver will have to be a module?
[12:37] <Penguin> but there is half of a prt missing
[12:37] <Penguin> its like panarama
[12:37] <crimsun> Chinaman, has that entire command you pasted completed?
[12:37] <Penguin> but on one screen
[12:37] <Chinaman> crimsun: yes it is
[12:37] <mztriz> hey, can someone help me with my sound card?
[12:37] <crimsun> mztriz, what's the issue?
[12:37] <chrime> bya
[12:37] <Jowi> inthenow: usually, yes. most modems should be autodetected when "hotplug" kicks in during boot.
[12:37] <crimsun> Chinaman, so you're back at a shell prompt?
[12:37] <Chinaman> back in terminal
[12:38] <mztriz> Crimsun, I don't know how to get it to work it's snd cs4236
[12:38] <Chinaman> in this directory: /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver
[12:38] <Penguin> Kenneth2, gonna solve it tomorow, doing it now for 3 hours (no joke) I'm tired of it now
[12:38] <inthenow> whats colony 5?
[12:38] <inthenow> anyone using sympatico?
[12:38] <epp> what would be a good desktop manager for a 850mhz celeron?
[12:38] <crimsun> Chinaman, so now sudo modprobe snd-ca0106
[12:38] <Trashcan> windowmaker?
[12:38] <Jowi> inthenow: best thing to do is to ask them if you can use your existing dsl-modem to connect to them (shouldn't be a problem unless you have a really crappy modem)
[12:39] <Trashcan> im running gnome on a 995mhz p3, its fine
[12:39] <butcherbird> epp: love fluxbox
[12:39] <Trashcan> a little laggy thanks to broken drivers
[12:39] <inthenow> Jowi: i dont have dsl i have cable now
[12:39] <Jowi> inthenow: ahhhh, ok
[12:39] <inthenow> Jowi: switching from cable
[12:39] <epp> butcherbird, sounds good!
[12:39] <Kenneth2> Do i have to re-install when Breezy "final release" is out? Or does apt-get handle the upgrade?
[12:39] <Chinaman> crimsun: FATAL: Module snd_ca0106 not found.
[12:39] <Chinaman> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_ca0106
[12:39] <Jowi> inthenow: then you can not lose :)
[12:40] <crimsun> Chinaman, dpkg -l alsa-modules-\*|grep ^ii
[12:40] <gpd> just wanted to scream at the person who decided that beep-media players default skin should include mysterious symbols with NO TOOL TIPS! /rant
[12:40] <epp> butcherbird: is it faster that xfce?
[12:40] <Chinaman> crimsun: No packages found matching alsa-modules-*.
[12:40] <inthenow> if i have breezy updated do i already have colony?
[12:40] <Trashcan> anyone have a link to a *good* working NASM syntax file for gnome? (gedit)
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> inthenow,  i think so. :P
[12:41] <Jowi> inthenow: find out which modem you might recieve, come back here, and ask the question again.
[12:41] <butcherbird> epp: never used xfce much but it cant be much slower that blackbox so I would say yes
[12:41] <crimsun> mztriz, is snd-cs4236 loaded?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> thats whats nice about the whole apt system - it can keep stuff up to date easier.
[12:41] <g|patrick> crap
[12:41] <jrattner1> After reading the ATI howto and following it, X no longer boots, currently I'm stuck in console mode and using ircii
[12:41] <nalioth> Kenneth2: apt handles all upgrades
[12:41] <butcherbird> epp: very small footprint
[12:41] <g|patrick> it still doesnt work unless i use taht tray tool
[12:41] <inthenow> Jowi: ok i will thanks
[12:41] <epp> sweet
[12:41] <g|patrick> any clues so far
[12:41] <dave7x> hi. i got a bit of a prob, maybe sumbody cud help me out. ive just downloaded the iso and am now using it on vmware 5.5 (seems like the best way to try it out to me, cant realli reboot). anyway, i ran thru the default install thing...but now i cant actually get anywhere. it restarts (had to force it to do that, maybe thats it?) and then boots up, loads the ubuntu screen...then crashes to, well, a command line, with error "Ale
[12:41] <g|patrick> i am at a loss
[12:42] <mztriz> crimsun, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that
[12:42] <crimsun> mztriz, lsmod|grep ^snd_cs4236
[12:42] <Chinaman> crimsun: can we go to alsa channel and do this?
[12:42] <Trashcan> dave: sounds like it can't set up X on the vmware adapter emulation
[12:42] <crimsun> Chinaman, what was the last step you did?
[12:42] <jrattner1> After reading the ATI howto and following it, X no longer boots, currently I'm stuck in console mode and using ircii
[12:43] <epp> i will just get fluxbox and xfce
[12:43] <Chinaman> i chose ca0106 and pressed enter
[12:43] <jrattner1> any suggestions?
[12:43] <butcherbird> epp: I use bblean in XP instead of explorer shell as well.  Just got used to the interface
[12:43] <mztriz> Crimsun,  lsmod|grep ^snd_cs4236 appeared to do nothing
[12:43] <relax> i want add marilat to my sources.list
[12:43] <crimsun> Chinaman, did you execute the debian/rules command?
[12:43] <Chinaman> now i'm in the /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver
[12:43] <nalioth> jrattner1: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver
[12:43] <crimsun> mztriz, so that module is not loaded.
[12:43] <relax> here can i find ?
[12:43] <Chinaman> crimsun: what's that?
[12:43] <epp> butcherbird, sweet
[12:43] <jrattner1> nalioth: wil that work from the command line?
[12:43] <crimsun> mztriz, sudo modprobe snd-cs4236
[12:43] <nalioth> relax: you'll mess up your box
[12:43] <nalioth> jrattner1: yes
[12:44] <dave7x> trashcan: ok, sounds bout rite, thts wot the vmware hlp thing says...but i cant get its instructions to work. apparently i shud b able to get sumwhere wi x after i install the additions thingy - but i just cant get them 2 install. any suggestions?
[12:44] <jrattner1> nalioth: previously it was on mesa does that matter?
[12:44] <epp> butcherbird: how do i mount my ntfs partiton?
[12:44] <logan001101> what is backport to download fluxbox????
[12:44] <Trashcan> i have no idea past that, dave
[12:44] <logan001101> mirromax doesnt work
[12:44] <crimsun> Chinaman, did you actually read the factoid for alsa-source?
[12:44] <mztriz> Crimsun, I don't think that did anything either.
[12:44] <Trashcan> never tried installing ubuntu on VM/VPC
[12:44] <nalioth> jrattner1: i know VESA will drive anything with a vga adaptor
[12:44] <crimsun> mztriz, that's good
[12:44] <dave7x> trashcan: ah well thanks anyway mate :)
[12:44] <crimsun> mztriz, cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:44] <logan001101> what is backport to download fluxbox????
[12:44] <nalioth> ubotu tell epp about ntfs
[12:44] <mztriz> Crimsun ok
[12:44] <logan001101> mirromax doesnt work
[12:44] <jrattner1> nalioth: naolioth what is the command again it flew by in ircii ;0
[12:44] <jrattner1> : )
[12:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell logan001101 about backports
[12:45] <butcherbird> epp: sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /something should work.  Not sure if yours is hda1 of course
[12:45] <mztriz> Crimsun, 0 [CS4236B        ] : CS4236B - CS4236B
[12:45] <mztriz>                      CS4236B at 0x534, irq 5, dma 1&3
[12:45] <g|patrick> whats "sysfs support enabled"
[12:45] <WebCruser> Hi, all - new to Linux, new to IRC. Can't install, haven't gotten any help in forums. Install stuck on "Starting hotplug subsystem..." Any suggestions?:-S
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> g|patrick,  recompilin your own kernel?
[12:45] <dbakdsjadsa> pingme pls
[12:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell butcherbird about ntfs
[12:45] <dave7x> trashcan: do you know how to force it to a command line thing where id b able to type instead of using x?
[12:45] <crimsun> mztriz, excellent. Now you should use alsamixer or Volume Control to unmute Master & PCM and increase the volumes
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> WebCruser,  the install cd is getting stuck at that?
[12:45] <epp> butcherbird,  mine is hda1 but i have linux running on there too
[12:45] <nalioth> jrattner1: check your msgs
[12:45] <logan001101> guys
[12:46] <logan001101> what is backport to download fluxbox????
[12:46] <g|patrick> Dr_Willis: no just tryiing to get powernow operable
[12:46] <Chinaman> crimsun: i don't think you sent me the factoid
[12:46] <logan001101> mirromax doesnt work
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> logan001101,  i thoguht it was in multuiverse myself.
[12:46] <logan001101> guys
[12:46] <jrattner1> naolioth I dont know how I'm not expierenced with ircii
[12:46] <g|patrick> "This daemon is less complicated than cpufreqd or cpudyn, at the cost of
[12:46] <g|patrick> absolutely depending on a 2.6 kernel with the userspace governor and sysfs
[12:46] <g|patrick> support enabled."
[12:46] <nalioth> logan001101: read your private msgs
[12:46] <g|patrick> thats said
[12:46] <Chinaman> logan00101: mirrormax doesn't work for me either
[12:46] <crimsun> Chinaman, I don't need to. /msg ubotu tell me about alsa-source
[12:46] <logan001101> i tried and got 404 error
[12:46] <butcherbird> epp: sudo fdisk -l should show you which one you need there
[12:46] <nalioth> jrattner1: do you see red numbers on the blue line at the bottom?
[12:46] <g|patrick> well.. kernel - check
[12:46] <Jan`> hihi all
[12:46] <Fred|Fr3d> hey... does SSH run over TCP/IP or UDP?
[12:46] <mztriz> Crimsun, thanks!!
[12:46] <jrattner1> naolith yes I do
[12:46] <WebCruser> Hi, Dr_Willis: yup. Total repartition, started from HD, then stalls on boot
[12:46] <g|patrick> that govenour applet - check
[12:46] <crimsun> mztriz, hear anything?
[12:46] <cafuego_> !test
[12:46] <Jan`> I noticed that there's a lot of accessibility stuff in ubuntu, especially a screenreader
[12:46] <Jan`> how well does all that stuff work?
[12:46] <nalioth> jrattner1: alt + the red number
[12:46] <g|patrick> but sysfs???
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[12:46] <Dr_Willis> WebCruser,  what sort of system anyway?
[12:47] <Jowi> logan001101: backports have other mirrors you can try.
[12:47] <nalioth> logan001101: ubotu sent you a msg
[12:47] <Fred|Fr3d> does SSH use TCPIP or UDP protocol?
[12:47] <logan001101> dont understand
[12:47] <logan001101> ah
[12:47] <crimsun> Fred|Fr3d, TCP
[12:47] <Fred|Fr3d> thanks
[12:47] <Chinaman> ubotu isn't there
[12:47] <logan001101> nalioth: im trying ...................
[12:47] <basti> how do I configure my webcam ?? any program that could be recommended?
[12:47] <crimsun> Chinaman, you just pasted the entire factoid above anyhow
[12:48] <cafuego_> I made ubotu crash, he'll be back in 10 seconds.
[12:48] <ubuntu_> hi
[12:48] <Jowi> wb ubotu
[12:48] <cafuego_> !test
[12:48] <ubotu> Working....
[12:48] <Jan`> wbies ubotu :)
[12:48] <Seveas> cafuego_, bad boy!
[12:48] <g|patrick> whats sysfs?
[12:48] <WebCruser> Dr_Willis: Mac G3 B&W/yosemite with new HD without Mac system, 384MB RAM, otherwise factory model with SCSI unused, no attached Firewire or USB except keyboard & mouse.
[12:48] <Fred|Fr3d> crimsun: you know whether IRC on 6667 is tcpip or udp too? :D
[12:48] <cafuego_> Seveas: mysql update
[12:48] <g|patrick> google didnt ?ave me a clue ;(
[12:48] <Chinaman> um...i can't see myself
[12:48] <Chinaman> typing it
[12:48] <logicus> hi there from a sparkling new ubuntu user who cant figure out how to setup ubuntu to use danish
[12:48] <nalioth> WebCruser: go for it
[12:48] <Chinaman> sigh...
[12:49] <Chinaman> crimsun: i can't see any link
[12:49] <crimsun> Fred|Fr3d, 6667 is just a port. It can be either TCP or UDP. IRC servers use TCP.
[12:49] <Fred|Fr3d> thanks again crimsun. i know that it's a port tho :P
[12:49] <thompa> can someone help me with realplayer?
[12:49] <JustinHH> pingme pls
[12:49] <WebCruser> nalioth: OK, here goes reboot...
[12:50] <Chinaman> crimsun: can you send me the factoid?
[12:50] <crimsun> Chinaman, look at what you typed 21 minutes ago.
[12:50] <thompa> the installer for realplayer wants rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm
[12:50] <crimsun> well, 19 minutes ago.
[12:51] <thompa> so i changed the name of realplayer 10
[12:51] <Chinaman> my gaim crashed before that crimsun
[12:51] <thompa> does not work
[12:51] <JustinHH> i have some problems with the program that lets me choose from wich partition i shoul boot (error). how can i install it?
[12:51] <Chinaman> after that, i mean
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> WebCruser,  eww.. i know very very little about the stuff on powerpc hardware. sorry.
[12:51] <JustinHH> i have some problems with the program that lets me choose from wich partition i shoul boot (error). how can i reinstall it without needing to reinstal my windows and linux?
[12:51] <thompa> ./RealPlayer10GOLD-1.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5:
[12:52] <thompa> how do i  install the bugger?
[12:52] <iiiears> basti - "gqcam" in synaptic looks interesting.
[12:52] <Trashcan> anyone recommend a favorite BNC for *nix?
[12:52] <Fred|Fr3d> Trashcan: PsyBNC
[12:52] <WebCruser> Dr_Willis: Thanks, though. Do you know any other resources that may be of some help?
[12:52] <cafuego_> thompa: Give 'helixplayer' a try instead.
[12:52] <thompa> the ubuntu installer is for realplayer8
[12:52] <Trashcan> thansk fred
[12:52] <Fred|Fr3d> no problem
[12:53] <crimsun> Chinaman, gaim couldn't have crashed right then. You typed it here in the channel, and we all saw it.
[12:53] <thompa> i used to be able to install from the web site the binary
[12:53] <jmg> damn, i cant gparted to move my root partition :(
[12:53] <crimsun> ubotu, tell Chinaman about alsa-source
[12:53] <Trackilizer> Is there anyway i can make a link of my mounted FAT32 drive to my desktop?
[12:53] <nalioth> jmg: you need to be using the livecd
[12:53] <thompa> helix is same is it not?
[12:53] <nalioth> jmg: parted wont work on a mounted disk
[12:54] <jmg> nalioth: someone should wrap it into a boot image, like memtest86+
[12:54] <nalioth> jmg: it is in a boot image. on both CDs
[12:54] <thompa> the ubuntu installer says to download the file from realone then change the name.
[12:54] <JustinHH> Trackilizer, do you know how to mount ntfs drives?
[12:54] <Jowi> Trackilizer: drag'n'drop the mounted folder to the desktop, creating a shortcut?
[12:54] <jmg> nalioth: but your comment on live cd is noted.
[12:54] <thompa> big waste of time
[12:54] <Pickle_Weasel> whoa
[12:54] <Pickle_Weasel> ubotu is gone
[12:54] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Pickle_Weasel
[12:54] <Pickle_Weasel> oh wait..he's back..
[12:54] <jmg> hey seaking of which.. can you install the livecd image yet?
[12:54] <Inf3ctedfx> Does anybody knows or is familiar with the VLC?
[12:54] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[12:55] <Mars__^> hi
[12:55] <mkyb14> anyone here good with GRUB... and know what 'error 17 ' means?
[12:55] <Mars__^> I have problem with ubuntu
[12:55] <jmg> speaking*
[12:55] <Trackilizer> I already did mount the drive, i just want to make a shortcut of it on my desktop.
[12:55] <thompa> missing libstdc++.so.5:
[12:55] <jmg> mkyb14: your question should be "anyone good with google"
[12:55] <butcherbird> Inf3ctedfx: problem with vlc?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Inf3ctedfx,  ive used vlc in the past :P
[12:56] <Mars__^> I installed opera for ubuntu and my internet connection is very very slower now. What schould I do. Maybe uninstall Opera? How?
[12:56] <thompa> nalioth: sorrt to bother you. can you help me with realplayer?
[12:56] <spanglesontoast> is there a good c++ editor out therE?
[12:56] <Jowi> thompa: is libstdc++5 installed?
[12:56] <JustinHH> can i install just grub?
[12:56] <thompa> no its not
[12:56] <Inf3ctedfx> well I just download it.. I can hear the sound on the video but I can't see the video butcherbird
[12:56] <theoo> how come I can't play mp3 on the ubuntu player? It says 'need to downloda plugin'
[12:56] <Inf3ctedfx> so, I dont know if I have to do something else
[12:56] <Jowi> thompa: "sudo apt-get install libstdc++5" should do it
[12:56] <butcherbird> Inf3ctedfx: what extension is the file youre playing?\
[12:56] <nalioth> thompa: try the helix player from the realplayer home page
[12:56] <stpere> !tell theoo about mp3
[12:56] <JustinHH> from dos
[12:56] <Trackilizer> So, would anyone happen to know how to make a shortcut of the mounted drive on my desktop?
[12:57] <Inf3ctedfx> wmv
[12:57] <Inf3ctedfx> butcherbird:  is wvm
[12:57] <thompa> right thanks. then can i install as normal via the real.com site?
[12:57] <butcherbird> Trackilizer: you could always ln -s
[12:57] <Chinaman> crimsun: is this a problem:
[12:57] <Chinaman> Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[12:57] <Chinaman> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[12:57] <Chinaman> sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[12:57] <Chinaman> make: *** [configure-stamp]  Error 1
[12:57] <thompa> by the way the version is now -1 so the instructions are old
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[12:57] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[12:57] <Trackilizer> butcherbird, would you mind telling me what you really mean.
[12:57] <n00bster> hello, whare can I Find on the Applocations menu, the subuntu-calendar ?
[12:57] <nalioth> Chinaman: do not paste in here, please
[12:58] <butcherbird> Inf3ctedfx: I might be wrong but I dont THINK vlc handles wmv anyone else know?
[12:58] <Jowi> thompa: installed real ages ago, can't tell if it work now or not (not really keen on removing it to test)
[12:58] <crimsun> Chinaman, dpkg -l linux-headers-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii
[12:58] <Inf3ctedfx> someone told me donwload it if I want to play wmv
[12:58] <nalioth> Inf3ctedfx: newer wmvs wont play at all
[12:58] <Inf3ctedfx> mmmm ok
[12:58] <Jowi> thompa: ...but the version i have now is from their site anyway.
[12:58] <Chinaman> crimsun: do i need to type sudo install before that?
[12:59] <iiiears> Inf3ctedfx, - w32codecs - for wma,  no?
[12:59] <Chinaman> or something ike that?
[12:59] <crimsun> Chinaman, what?
[12:59] <thompa> jowi: thanks
[12:59] <crimsun> Chinaman, I really don't see how you didn't follow precisely what the factoid for alsa-source told you.
[12:59] <Chinaman> crimsun: do i just type that? because that gave me an error
[12:59] <thompa> now it works
[12:59] <Chinaman> i did
[12:59] <lakin> When GDM starts, it completely ignores the settings in the xorg.conf and uses 1280x1024, but if I kill GDM and just use start X, then it properly uses the full 1680x1050 that my laptop can do.  What's even wierder is that /var/log/Xorg.0.log actually reports different modes depending on whether I'm using startx or gdm.
[12:59] <lakin> Does anyone have any ideas?
[12:59] <Inf3ctedfx> iiiears:  where I can donwload those ?
[12:59] <Chinaman> i did both steps
[12:59] <thompa> avoid ubuntu realplayer installer!
[01:00] <crimsun> Chinaman, if so, then you wouldn't get the error you just did.
[01:00] <butcherbird> Trackilizer: ln -s creates a symbolic link basically a 'shortcut' to whatever file you want
[01:00] <jmg> wooo
[01:00] <crimsun> Chinaman, what is the output from dpkg -l linux-headers-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii
[01:00] <n00bster> How can i launch the ubuntu-calendar ?
[01:00] <thompa> realplayer works. !!!
[01:00] <iiiears> ubuntu's developers work very hard to use only OSS - and the first thing i do every time is add M$ codecs DOH!  - it is on the web somewhere. wish i had a link for you. sorry.
[01:00] <nalioth> n00bster: you dont. ubuntu-calendar is a series of monthly wallpapers
[01:01] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedfx, w32codecs ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[01:01] <Chinaman> crimsun: it says command not found
[01:01] <cddesjar> is there a way to restart x on the kubuntu live cd?
[01:01] <butcherbird> Trackilizer: you could create a symbolic link in your /home/user/Desktop dir. Im sorry I dont know how to do this through the gui in gnome
[01:01] <thompa> Jowi: still its an extra step or 2. Ubuntu is supposed to be less steps not more.
[01:01] <cddesjar> i've tried xkill
[01:01] <Inf3ctedfx> thx tristanmike
[01:01] <Chinaman> is there something else i have to change in the 2nd step on factoid besides the uname?
[01:01] <nalioth> ubuntulog: tell tristanmike about w32codecs
[01:01] <cddesjar> and /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[01:01] <thompa> The installer is like 8 steps
[01:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Inf3ctedfx about w32codecs
[01:01] <cddesjar> and they crash
[01:01] <crimsun> Chinaman, dude, do not change a single thing.
[01:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tristanmike about w32codecs
[01:01] <cddesjar> also i don't know remember how to restart cardmgr?
[01:01] <Chinaman> i don't?!
[01:01] <jrattner1> Naolith is there a way for me to change back to my previous xorg config?
[01:01] <Chinaman> >.<
[01:01] <mr_roboto> cddesjar: can you just <ctrl><alt><backspace>?
[01:01] <crimsun> Chinaman, the reason I typed that entire factoid was so people could copy and paste the darned thing
[01:02] <Inf3ctedfx> ohh question tristanmike just install the package and thats it? or I have to do something else?
[01:02] <nalioth> jrattner1: the one that doesnt work?
[01:02] <n00bster> oh, but i just recived en Aouto update of them, whare are they ont the FileSystem?
[01:02] <tristanmike> nalioth, yes, they are torrents, what if he doesn't want to torrent?
[01:02] <cddesjar> what does that do mr roboto:
[01:02] <jrattner1> nalioth, the one previous to that
[01:02] <cddesjar> does that kill x and restart it?
[01:02] <mr_roboto> cddesjar: kills the x server and restarts, yes
[01:02] <cddesjar> i am trying to reconfigure my xorg.conf
[01:02] <cddesjar> ok i'll try that thanks!
[01:02] <Jowi> thompa: that's Real for you :)
[01:02] <cddesjar> do you know how to restart cardmgr?
[01:02] <nalioth> tristanmike: the hoary ones are direct downloads
[01:02] <tristanmike> nalioth, nevermind, my bad sorry
[01:02] <tristanmike> nalioth, too quick for me
[01:02] <jrattner1> nalioth, or to get the my ATI working cause flxgears isnt helping
[01:02] <thompa> jowi: yep! going to bbc radio 1 to jam out . see you and thanks
[01:02] <Chinaman> crimsun: i am so sorry for being a stupid n00b
[01:03] <nalioth> jrattner1: did the VESA get you a gui?
[01:03] <Jowi> c u thompa
[01:03] <jrattner1> nalioth, yes im in gnome right now
[01:03] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedfx, so use what nalioth sent you and no, you don't have to install anything else
[01:03] <n00bster> nalioth: what's the path that they are installled ?
[01:03] <Chinaman> crimsun: now it's downloading a lot of stuff o.0
[01:03] <nalioth> jrattner1: i've found ATI support to be not too good
[01:03] <Inf3ctedfx> cuz tristanmike  i'm using also gxine and mplayer
[01:03] <cddesjar> is it just cardmgr restart
[01:03] <Chinaman> omfg, it's doing a lot
[01:04] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedfx, I don't know, I only use Totem and VLC
[01:04] <crimsun> Chinaman, it's ok.
[01:04] <Inf3ctedfx> cool is working xDDD thx
[01:04] <stpere> is ubuntu-calendar still updated?
[01:04] <iiiears> windows users linux community. ;)
[01:04] <tristanmike> nalioth, is there a difference b/w your link and mine, I ask because I had a friend install via my link, and if it's bad, well, you know.
[01:05] <jrattner1> nalioth, so what would you recomend that I stay with mesa? or do you think i should try flxgears?
[01:05] <Chinaman> now the grep thing outputs: ii  linux-headers- 2.6.10-34.6    Linux kernel headers 2.6.10 on 386
[01:05] <Carwash> sorry if this noobish, but what is the command line to install a program in ubuntu
[01:05] <Chinaman> does that look right now?
[01:05] <jmg> jrattner1: if you can, dont use mesa, its slow
[01:05] <darklogic> is the sources.list on ubuntuguide.org broken?
[01:05] <mr_roboto> carwash: apt-get install <program>
[01:05] <nalioth> tristanmike: marillat is to be avoided. the w32codecs are not dangerous to use, but most everything else there is
[01:05] <crimsun> Chinaman, did that whole command complete?
[01:05] <darklogic> a lot of the repos in it give me 404 errors
[01:05] <Chinaman> yes
[01:05] <Jowi> Carwash: "sudo apt-get install programname"
[01:05] <nalioth> darklogic: ubuntuguide is poison
[01:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell darklogic about sources
[01:06] <crimsun> Chinaman, so now you should sudo modprobe snd-ca0106
[01:06] <tristanmike> nalioth, ok, thank you, didn't understand, good to know
[01:06] <mr_roboto> carwash: apt-cache search <pattern> to see if you have the program in your cache
[01:06] <jrattner1> jmg, have you gotten your ATI running?
[01:06] <Chinaman> got it
[01:06] <darklogic> thanks guys
[01:06] <jrattner1> ubotu ati
[01:06] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[01:06] <Chinaman> do i reboot or someting?
[01:06] <tristanmike> !tell tristanmike about sources
[01:06] <crimsun> Chinaman, did you load snd-ca0106?
[01:06] <bob832> hi everyone, i'm back  :-)
[01:06] <Chinaman> type load snd-ca0106?
[01:06] <Inf3ctedfx> Any CD Burner.. works with GNOME???
[01:07] <crimsun> no, sudo modprobe snd-ca0106
[01:07] <iiiears> ubuntuguide is indespensible the best and brightest aren't always in #ubuntu.- including a list of sources was a bad idea.
[01:07] <Jowi> Inf3ctedfx: graveman
[01:07] <Chinaman> yes, did that
[01:07] <tristanmike> sorry
[01:07] <crimsun> Chinaman, now log out of and back into GNOME
[01:07] <Inf3ctedfx> Jowi: that one use GUI?
[01:07] <Jowi> Inf3ctedfx: yep
[01:07] <bob832> question:  how diffcult is it to get a program (more specifically chestmaster 5000) to work in wine?
[01:07] <Inf3ctedfx> thx Jowi
[01:07] <butcherbird> Inf3ctedfx: I just use gnomebaker
[01:07] <nalioth> iiiears: are you on crack?
[01:07] <Entranced> hello
[01:07] <mr_roboto> chestmaster? is that like playboy bunny pix or something?
[01:07] <Inf3ctedfx> gnomebaker?
[01:08] <Entranced> anyone here running breezy (up to date) ?
[01:08] <sktrdie> I need to put some files on my phone with bluetooth, what do I use?
[01:08] <bob832> oops, my mistake - lol, chessmaster
[01:08] <iiiears> lol - nah - had to sober up to cure my marriage addiction. - ubuntuguide is awesome.
[01:08] <adrakoa> hi
[01:08] <nalioth> iiiears: please d00d read your ubotu love
[01:08] <crimsun> Entranced, I am.
[01:08] <Entranced> WTF happened with boot-admin ?
[01:08] <protok0l> how do i install perl modules with apt?
[01:08] <Chinaman> crimsun: i'm back into gnome
[01:09] <n00bster> ok, ty, i found them :}
[01:09] <mr_roboto> bob832: some programs just run in wine without any work at all. others require tweaking. no idea about chessmaster. have you tried it?
[01:09] <crimsun> Entranced, err what?
[01:09] <crimsun> Chinaman, does sound work?
[01:09] <butcherbird> Entranced: gone
[01:09] <Entranced> crimsun, there was an app (part of gnome I think) called boot-admin
[01:09] <bob832> no not yet, b/c i'm not sure what i have to do to try
[01:10] <dmlinux> Hey guys
[01:10] <KiwiKibi> say, how do i ascertain whether KBUNTU includes the HPFS (eCS) file system?
[01:10] <Entranced> butcherbird, any reason ?
[01:10] <tristanmike> Entranced, yup, gone, conflicted with Grub
[01:10] <Chinaman> crimsun: no
[01:10] <jrattner1> naolith it says if i want to compile 3d applications to use fglrx-dev, should i just install that package or configure that package to run with X
[01:10] <mr_roboto> bob832: try "wine <program> <arguments>"
[01:10] <Mars__^> Hi i have question. I installed Opera. How can I uninstall it now?
[01:10] <iiiears> ubuntuguide is concise, step by clearly explained step with the most common questions answered on a SINGLE page. no need for searching around.
[01:10] <butcherbird> Entranced: I heard it conflicted with some stuff
[01:10] <Chinaman> crimsun: device manager still does not recognize
[01:10] <Entranced> tristanmike, It was an ok app
[01:10] <butcherbird> Entranced: not sure
[01:10] <mr_roboto> bob832: "man" is your friend :)     "man wine"
[01:10] <Jowi> Mars__^: sudo apt-get remove opera
[01:10] <nalioth> jrattner1: i have no idea what you want to compile
[01:10] <Carwash> iiiears: link to ubuntu guide?
[01:10] <tristanmike> iiiears, ubuntuguide is hardly clearly explained
[01:11] <solidgroove> how stable is breezy and is it spammed with beta stuff?
[01:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Carwash about ubuntuguide
[01:11] <crimsun> Entranced, what did boot admin do?
[01:11] <nalioth> iiiears: thank you very much
[01:11] <adrakoa> i have a problem with grub... i have installed another distribution in hda2, i cp the bzImage, initrd... in the /boot/ of the first distribution, is this all right?
[01:11] <crimsun> Chinaman, cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:11] <iiiears> Carwash - lol - are you trying to get me into trouble? - lol
[01:11] <Entranced> it was an easy way to update grub menu.lst
[01:11] <KiwiKibi> say, how do i ascertain whether UBUNTU includes the HPFS (eCS) file system?
[01:11] <nalioth> !test
[01:11] <ubotu> Crashed.
[01:11] <Mars__^> thanks
[01:11] <nalioth> Carwash: ubuntuguide is bad news
[01:11] <fredforfaen> is there a ubuntu channel for off topic shit...chitchatting.....?
[01:12] <Chinaman> crimsun: no sound cards
[01:12] <Mars__^> Is it possible that my internet connection is slower because i installed Opera badly?
[01:12] <crimsun> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:12] <fredforfaen> thanx crimsun
[01:12] <Jowi> fredforfaen: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:12] <iiiears> crimsun - is right again. - grin
[01:12] <ifr> Hi, doing ssh port forwarding and I'm having problems with listening to port 25; something seems to be on there and I need to find out what. error: channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 25
[01:12] <fredforfaen> Jowi :)
[01:12] <crimsun> Chinaman, are you _positive_ it's a 24-bit, 7.1 sound blaster?
[01:12] <Chinaman> yes
[01:12] <Entranced> crimsun, I'm tripple booting...and after each kernel upgrade my menu.lst get fux0red, so I have to edit menu.lst each time
[01:12] <Chinaman> 24-bit, 7.1 sound blaster audigy 2 value
[01:13] <jmg> im going to hack the kernel anddisable p4 errata checking
[01:13] <ifr> command: sudo ssh -c blowfish -L 143:localhost:143 -L 25:localhost:25 -l user host
[01:13] <Entranced> crimsun, boot-admin was very nice (point/click almost)
[01:13] <mr_roboto> grep 25\/tcp /etc/services
[01:13] <bob832> to get wine, do i do the following  -  sudo apt-get install wine  ?  (new to apt-get)
[01:13] <mr_roboto> you must have  mail server running
[01:13] <ifr> Thanks, mr_roboto, will check!
[01:13] <shinu> how do i remove all *.abc files recursively in a directory?
[01:14] <Jowi> bob832: yep. you might want to add "sudo" infront of that command.
[01:14] <KiwiKibi> say, how do i ascertain whether UBUNTU includes the HPFS (eCS) file system?
[01:14] <Jowi> bob832: oh, you did. sorry
[01:14] <mr_roboto> rm -r "*\.abc"
[01:14] <crimsun> Chinaman, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for lspci -nv output
[01:14] <Entranced> shinu,  rm -rf *.abc
[01:14] <bob832> ok thanks
[01:14] <shinu> mr_roboto Entranced thanks
[01:14] <mr_roboto> you need the quotes, shinu
[01:15] <ifr> mr_roboto, a ps aux | grep smtp though, shows nothing. . .
[01:15] <Chinaman> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2702
[01:15] <Entranced> mr_roboto, for what ?
[01:16] <Inf3ctedfx> Another Question, doesn anyone knows a good dock like Mac OSX for Gnome? beside Superkaramba?
[01:16] <Chinaman> crimsun: will you be here in 30 minutes? i need to go for dinner...
[01:16] <mr_roboto> entranced: oops, thinking of passing wildcard to "find"
[01:16] <Entranced> hehe
[01:16] <shinu> :)
[01:16] <PhilH> Hi, can anyone give me a hand getting by CD Burner to work with Ubuntu(Hoary)?
[01:16] <Jowi> ifr: run a port scan on yourself (with gnome-nettool for example) :-)
[01:16] <ifr> Jowi, thanks. . .
[01:16] <shinu> i hope i dont do something wrong... its a 2.33gb folder...
[01:16] <Trashcan> or nmap
[01:16] <Trashcan> :D
[01:16] <Trashcan> man, a clean install of hoary
[01:17] <Chinaman> PhilH: try enabling overburn
[01:17] <Chinaman> worked for me at least
[01:17] <Jowi> ifr: use 127.0.0.1
[01:17] <PhilH> to get cdrecord to work?
[01:17] <Trashcan> fucking vsFTPd, openSSH, postgreSQL (my fault), and SMTP running
[01:17] <ifr> Jowi, thanks. Ran nmap and seee that 25 is open for smtp but again, the ps aux shows nothing running
[01:17] <ifr> :(
[01:17] <butcherbird> Trashcan: sorry forgot I left those running =)
[01:17] <Mars__^> there is problem cause when i write sudo apt-get remove opera, it writes that i dont kave packet called opera
[01:18] <Chinaman> PhilH: you just have to make sure you don't go over file size allowed by CD and it should work
[01:18] <Trashcan> eh butcher?
[01:18] <butcherbird> Trashcan: jk heh nm'
[01:18] <Trashcan> ok :)
[01:18] <Trashcan> i was gonna say... butcher = dev team or what?
[01:18] <crimsun> Chinaman, sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload
[01:18] <PhilH> Chinaman: i can't even detect the thing, great tip!
[01:19] <PhilH> Anyone else with a little more knowledge?
[01:19] <crimsun> Chinaman|Dinner, you'll need to use the snd-emu10k1 driver instead of the snd-ca0106 driver. It was a different pci id after all.
[01:20] <ifr> Jowi, any other ideas?
[01:20] <crimsun> Chinaman|Dinner, that means you'll need to remove /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver and redo step 2 of the alsa-source factoid, only this time you need to choose the emu10k1 driver not the ca0106.
[01:21] <shinu> Entranced: that command doesnt seem to work...
[01:21] <mirak> is it possible to shrink ext3 ?
[01:21] <nalioth> mirak: yes
[01:21] <KiwiKibi> say, how do i ascertain whether UBUNTU includes the HPFS (eCS) file system?
[01:21] <Entranced> what is the error ?
[01:21] <mirak> nalioth: even mounted ?
[01:21] <Jowi> ifr, any ideas of what can hog port 25?
[01:21] <nalioth> mirak: no
[01:22] <Entranced> shinu, do you get any error msg ?
[01:22] <Pluk> 25 is smtp (mail)
[01:22] <shinu> Entranced: nothing, it just gives me the prompt but the files are still in the subdirs
[01:22] <Trashcan> running by default
[01:22] <ifr> Jowi, only think I think of is smtp; thunderbird is set to look to localhost, I use port forwarding to map 25
[01:22] <Entranced> ahh
[01:22] <Entranced> hold a sec
[01:22] <Jowi> Pluk: we know. ifr want to know which program that is using it :)
[01:22] <Pluk> ah ok sry :)
[01:22] <ifr> BUT smtp isn't showing up on ps aux
[01:22] <Pluk> just dropped in
[01:23] <mr_roboto> sudo lsof -i tcp:25
[01:23] <Inf3ctedfx> ok sorry to bother too much... but anyone knows an editor like DreamWeaver?
[01:23] <shinu> Jowi: cant you use netstat and grep the port?
[01:23] <mr_roboto> to see what pid is listening on port 25
[01:23] <Inf3ctedfx> for gnome?
[01:23] <ifr> Cool... mr_roboto, thanks, doing now
[01:23] <mr_roboto> then ps -fp <pid> to see the program
[01:23] <KiwiKibi> what da dickens is a "Colony" release?
[01:23] <PhilH> Inf3ctedfc: try NVU
[01:23] <ifr> Wow/
[01:23] <Trashcan> then kill -9 pid
[01:23] <Trashcan> or kill -SIGTERM pid
[01:23] <Inf3ctedfx> PhilH: NVU?
[01:23] <Trashcan> either way
[01:23] <Trashcan> you are one cool kid
[01:23] <Trashcan> night nalioth
[01:23] <ifr> mr_roboto: master  7570 root   12u  IPv4  11576       TCP localhost.localdomain:smtp (LISTEN)
[01:23] <Jowi> shinu: nah, but mr_roboto had a nice idea
[01:24] <ifr> Wow
[01:24] <PhilH> Inf3ctedfc: http://www.nvu.com/
[01:24] <Trashcan> SMTP running under root?
[01:24] <mr_roboto> ifr: that's your problem program   :)
[01:24] <PhilH> don't use the thing myself, nor any other WYSIWYG editors, but it seems ok
[01:24] <nalioth_zZz> Inf3ctedfx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu
[01:24] <NightLord> erm, why is it when i try to change my colours for text in gaim, it crashes? I got breezy
[01:24] <shinu> Jowi: would it give a similar result though?
[01:24] <ifr> mr_roboto, thanks so much. Now I wonder **WHY** smtp was running at all, and running like that - and why it didn't show up under ps aux?
[01:25] <Inf3ctedfx> thx nalioth_zZz there is another one beside that one?
[01:25] <mr_roboto> ifr: why not just use a different port?  you shouldn't be using one of the "well-known" prorts anyway
[01:25] <nalioth_zZz> Inf3ctedfx: quanta
[01:25] <Jowi> ifr postfix probably
[01:25] <n00bster> how do i set permissions for FileSystem to my user account ?
[01:25] <ifr> Jowi DOH!
[01:25] <nalioth_zZz> Inf3ctedfx: screem maybe
[01:25] <Jowi> :D
[01:25] <ifr> Thanks.
[01:25] <mr_roboto> ifr: because the program you are running is not called "smtp"  that's just the service name
[01:25] <tristanmike> n00bster, what do you want to do?
[01:25] <ifr> Yes, It all dawned clearly. Thanks both of you for the help which is much appreciated
[01:26] <KiwiKibi> what does the moniker "Colony" indicate?
[01:26] <Inf3ctedfx> thx nalioth_zZz  but the best one is NVU?
[01:26] <PhilH> inf3ctedfc: but they aren't really much like dreamweaver
[01:26] <nalioth_zZz> Inf3ctedfx: the best one is the one you like the best
[01:26] <PhilH> oops
[01:26] <Inf3ctedfx> good answer  but in ur opinion.. which one is more user friendly?
[01:27] <nalioth_zZz> Inf3ctedfx: i dont use wysiwyg editors
[01:27] <n00bster> i want to be able to write tothe  FileSystem ..
[01:27] <n00bster> fore example  copy a files to the FileSystem
[01:27] <NightLord> no-one?
[01:27] <tristanmike> n00bster, use sudo
[01:27] <PhilH> Inf3ctedfx: NVU is WYSIWYG, the others aren't really, therefore i'd go for bluefish
[01:27] <nalioth_zZz> n00bster: you generally have no business putting things in the filesystem
[01:27] <n00bster> but i want to do this from GUI ..
[01:27] <KiwiKibi> what's a "Colony" release?
[01:27] <NightLord> also, why does it say "Please install before using" when i try to run xvidtune?
[01:28] <nalioth_zZz> KiwiKibi: a benchmark, nothing more
[01:28] <Inf3ctedfx> ok PhilH  thx
[01:28] <n00bster> ok, i just installed Mplayer, & I want to add askin to "Skin" directory that is in user/share/Mplayer/skins Folder.
[01:28] <PhilH> n00bster: then run sudo nautilus
[01:28] <tristanmike> n00bster, it's not recommended that you give the filesystem anything but read priviledge's other than read, unless it's your home dir. and then you already do have those permissions.
[01:29] <nalioth_zZz> n00bster: add it to the .mplayer directory in YOUR home directory
[01:29] <PhilH> n00bster: only don't, because it's not a bright idea if you're new
[01:29] <tristanmike> n00bster, and remember that the mplayer folder is "hidden" in your home folder
[01:29] <KiwiKibi> what would be the meaning of the absence of the label "Colony" and its attendant digit in a release?
[01:30] <n00bster> oha, rghite !!! forgot about the Ctrl+H :}
[01:30] <inc|freaky> 
[01:30] <NightLord> does anyone know of any software which will let me use msn messengers webcam features?
[01:30] <none_-> anyone know a site that has a bunch of C programming exercises?
[01:30] <mr_roboto> n00bster: that's the "unix way" to put private configuration in the user's home dir, usually in a directory called ".<programname>"    that's a good thing to know
[01:30] <KiwiKibi> more directly: what does the label "Colony" DENOTATE?
[01:30] <inc|freaky> i will never get euro () support. it never shows on windows machines i probably have the wrong encoding.
[01:31] <none_-> wrong channel
[01:31] <inc|freaky> does any1 know what i can do if i have to hit ^ twice to make one of it? ^^ <-- for this smiley i have to press the key 4 times that sucks
[01:31] <Trashcan> none_-: www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[01:31] <n00bster> emm.... thank you, good to know this...
[01:31] <crimsun> KiwiKibi, colonys are milestones on the roadmap for the final Breezy release.
[01:31] <Trashcan> i keed i keed
[01:31] <tristanmike> Trashcan, that's not nice
[01:31] <PhilH> Inf3ctedfx: bluefish is a nice editor which helps you to code HTML, screem is similar, NVU's the only one that you're likely to like if you use WYSIWYG stuff
[01:31] <Trashcan> i know :(
[01:31] <nalioth_zZz> KiwiKibi: means the same thing as "longhorn" or "memphis"
[01:31] <tristanmike> lol'
[01:31] <none_-> :'(
[01:31] <none_-> the
[01:31] <none_-> ' is a tear
[01:32] <Trashcan> :'(
[01:32] <iiiears> Trashcan - lol - this is #ubuntu. - be nice not a lot of seasoned linux users here.
[01:32] <KiwiKibi> '
[01:32] <n00bster> is there a way to con fig File Manager to always show hidden files on my home dir ?
[01:32] <KiwiKibi> =('
[01:33] <butcherbird> none_-: have you begun using C yet?
[01:33] <KiwiKibi> ':)
[01:33] <tristanmike> n00bster, once it's enabled, it should remain untill you disable it again
[01:33] <cafuego_> n00bster: Yes.
[01:33] <KiwiKibi> :'
[01:33] <iiiears> just got an education in "Journaling File System" - it can  2 terabyte files now that is power.
[01:33] <PhilH> So, could anyone help me sort out my CD burner?
[01:33] <nalioth_zZz> cafuego_: is ubotu ok?
[01:33] <KiwiKibi> :')
[01:33] <n00bster> oh, i see... i'll tray this now.. ty.
[01:33] <tristanmike> n00bster, but it only works on each folder you tell it to show you, it's not global
[01:33] <nalioth_zZz> KiwiKibi: enough of the hieroglyphics
[01:33] <none_-> butcherbird, many times. i am looking for exercises because i am bored
[01:33] <cafuego_> n00bster: Prefernces -> File Manager -> [Views]  -> (*) Shows hidden and backup files
[01:34] <butcherbird> none_-: ah ok
[01:34] <Jowi> goodnight all
[01:34] <Trashcan> night
[01:34] <n00bster> nop, it's reverted back to  hidden
[01:34] <Inf3ctedfx> hey question how can I create a symbolic link?  the command is:  ln -s /phat/for the file/  /usr/bin  ???
[01:34] <iiiears> G'night Jowi.
[01:35] <mr_roboto> lnf3ctedfx: it's kind of like "cp"    ln -s <file name> <link name>
[01:35] <tristanmike> n00bster, try System-->Preferences-->File Management, there is a box there for hidden files, see if that helps
[01:35] <n00bster> nop, doing this from View allsow dident save it on "show hidden files"
[01:36] <ccooke> n00bster: you can toggle it with Ctrl-H by default, I think. But that'll only change the setting for one window.
[01:36] <borgista> A note to Breezy devs: The new kernel upgrade stopped random freezing, but Epiphany/Firefox both cause freezes now. Mozilla is fine.
[01:36] <n00bster> got it !! it did the trick :} ty..
[01:36] <KiwiKibi> is Dapper Drake more advanced than Breezy Bitch (or whatever its name is)?
[01:36] <n00bster> ty, all..
[01:36] <PhilH> n00bster: if you know where you want to go you can always just hit Ctrl + L and start typing .directoryiwanttosee
[01:36] <tristanmike> n00bster, what did the trick?
[01:36] <none_-> KiwiKibi, not more advanced
[01:36] <PhilH> n00bster: nautilus should autocomplete the rest
[01:36] <Entranced> shinu, you still there ?
[01:36] <cafuego_> KiwiKibi: Hoary Hedgehog is stable. ANything else you ought not be running if you're asking that particular question.
[01:37] <KiwiKibi> more what then?
[01:37] <ccooke> KiwiKibi: No. Dapper drake doesn't really exist yet.
[01:37] <none_-> breezy is the new release
[01:37] <none_-> that is as advanced as it gets
[01:37] <tristanmike> which isn't "offical" yet
[01:37] <nalioth_zZz> KiwiKibi: but yes, dapper drake will be more advanced then breezy badger
[01:37] <n00bster> whoops, Ctrl+L locked my screen :)
[01:37] <mkyb14> still oninle?
[01:37] <mkyb14> nice
[01:37] <cafuego_> No, if you can't use google to look stuff up, you have no business running breezy.
[01:37] <inc|freaky> any1 recently got problems with breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz while apt-get updating saying the md5-sum doesnt match?
[01:38] <shinu> Entranced: yup
[01:38] <borgista> Anybody else getting freezes with Firefox in Breezy?
[01:38] <FR500> man
[01:38] <Entranced> shinu, did you delete the files ?
[01:38] <nalioth_zZz> inc|freaky: shut your mouth!
[01:38] <none_-> inc|freaky, try the main site
[01:38] <shinu> Entranced: nope :)
[01:38] <Entranced> I got the solution
[01:38] <shinu> great
[01:38] <inc|freaky> nalioth_zZz: sry didnt want to wake you up ^^
[01:38] <FR500> after apt-get upgrade, firefox won't start, any workarounds?
[01:38] <n00bster> since i'm useing Ctrl+L to lock screen, is there a way, to change nautilus Ctrl+L shortcut, to somthing els ?
[01:38] <iiiears> lol
[01:38] <none_-> FR500, what did you upgrade from?
[01:38] <nalioth_zZz> inc|freaky: your md5 comment gave me nightmares
[01:38] <FR500> none_-, what version?
[01:38] <Entranced> shinu, be careful though
[01:39] <shinu> FR500: you have backports on?
[01:39] <inc|freaky> nalioth_zZz: sry :\ but why that?
[01:39] <none_-> don't use upgrade from breezy yet
[01:39] <shinu> Entranced: sure sure :P ill test it first :)
[01:39] <borgista> Breezy Badger goes faster than Gentoo on my box. Sweet.
[01:39] <KiwiKibi> which package has all the file systems (HFS, FAT32, JFS, HPFS, etc.)??
[01:39] <inc|freaky> none_-: y you sent me to the mane site?
[01:39] <ryufreak> can anyone tell me how to detect my other hard drive?
[01:39] <Entranced> shinu,  execute this from the directory in which are all the files+subdirectories with files
[01:39] <inc|freaky> *main
[01:39] <FR500> shinu, yes
[01:40] <Entranced> shinu, run this first WITHOUT "-delete" option
[01:40] <NightLord> is there anyway i can use my windows key for anything in ubuntu?
[01:40] <shinu> FR500: hoary right?
[01:40] <KiwiKibi> I need to make sure HPFS IS INDEED INCLUDED in the release.  How do I ascertain such?
[01:40] <Entranced> shinu, find ./ -type f -name '*.abc' -delete
[01:40] <cafuego_> KiwiKibi: The kernel, of course.
[01:40] <FR500> shinu, yes
[01:40] <inc|freaky> nalioth_zZz: the error is Konnte http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz nicht holen  MD5-Summe stimmt nicht means the md5 sum doesnt match
[01:40] <nalioth_zZz> NightLord: try windows key combinations
[01:40] <NightLord> k
[01:40] <none_-> inc|freaky, i mean the main site in apt's sources.list
[01:40] <ryufreak> !mount
[01:40] <ubotu> hmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[01:40] <NightLord> also, why does gaim crash when i try to change font colours
[01:40] <inthenow> recommend good ftp app?
[01:40] <shinu> !tell FR500 about firefox-fix
[01:40] <cafuego_> inc|freaky: Use a different mirror site, problem solved.
[01:40] <mkyb14> Network problem!  i didn't install with dhcp and am trying to set it up now.... how do i start this?
[01:40] <inthenow> what ftp app is included in ubuntu
[01:40] <Entranced> !menu.lst
[01:40] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Entranced
[01:41] <inthenow> ?
[01:41] <shinu> FR500: wrong :P cant remember the command :/
[01:41] <Entranced> !grub
[01:41] <ubotu> hmm... grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:41] <inc|freaky> cafuego: where can i find a list of mirrors?
[01:41] <cafuego_> inthenow: Places -> Connect to server -> FTP
[01:41] <PhilH> n00bster: if there's a way to enable dynamic keyboard shortcuts for GNOME, then yes, but i have no idea
[01:41] <FR500> shinu, ?
[01:41] <shinu> Entranced: alright
[01:41] <cafuego_> inc|freaky: XX.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <TokenBad> anyone know a way to make sure have ac3 codec?
[01:42] <shinu> FR500: sorry, i thought i remembered the entry in ubotu that solved your problem but i dont :/
[01:42] <ali4728> Can any one help with mail server conf (postfix + courier-Imap) I want to know what are the paremeters for "Incoming mail server" and "Outgoing mail server" for the remote client ? Any commnets are appreciated..
[01:42] <inc|freaky> cafuego: well, ill wait until they fix this problem
[01:42] <cafuego_> inc|freaky: Try 'nl' or 'at' for XX in your case.
[01:42] <FR500> shinu, oh
[01:42] <mr_roboto>  find ./ -type f -name "*.abc" -exec rm {} \;
[01:42] <epp> hey i have no sound
[01:42] <epp> in kde i have sound but not in xfce
[01:43] <PhilH> epp: what isn't producing sound?
[01:43] <epp> amarok
[01:43] <epp> or anysystem sounds
[01:43] <n00bster> i see ..
[01:43] <PhilH> maybe you need to start the soundsystem
[01:43] <epp> when i boot up to the login screen...
[01:43] <inc|freaky> doesnt have multiverse any security src packages?
[01:43] <crimsun> no.
[01:43] <PhilH> server even
[01:43] <shinu> mr_roboto: would that give the same result as what Entranced said?
[01:43] <shinu> mr_roboto: actually... nvm
[01:43] <epp> when i startup it gives the booted up sound but when i login to xfce i get no more sound
[01:44] <mr_roboto> shinu: yes, if there is a "-delete" option to find.   not sure there is... but the -exec will definitely work
[01:44] <shinu> Entranced: -delete doesnt exist i think :)
[01:44] <FR500> shinu, lol i was starting firefox to google for it :p
[01:44] <TokenBad> anyone know a way to make sure have ac3 codec?
[01:44] <Entranced> shinu,  it does
[01:44] <crimsun> epp, that's because we didn't script Xfce to start esd automatically.
[01:44] <Entranced> I just ran it
[01:44] <mr_roboto> didn't see "-delete" in the man page
[01:44] <mr_roboto> might have overlooked it
[01:44] <shinu> Entranced: find: invalid predicate `-delete
[01:44] <epp> when i try to start it.. it gives me an error
[01:44] <PhilH> epp: can you configure amarok to use a different soundserver?
[01:44] <mr_roboto> shinu   just use "-exec rm {} \;"
[01:44] <shinu> FR500: and it didnt start right? :P
[01:44] <shinu> mr_roboto: okie!
[01:45] <Entranced> http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/tech/find.html
[01:45] <borgista> tokenbad: sudo lsmod | grep ac3
[01:45] <epp> when i try to run esd it says Device or resource busy..
[01:45] <mr_roboto> shinu: the "{}" means do this on every file found  and you have to end with a semi-colon, escaped so the shell doesn't grab it
[01:45] <TokenBad> borgista, if it gives no responce?
[01:45] <ryufreak> how do i get into my other hard drive/
[01:45] <Entranced> shinu, mr_roboto I'm running Breezy and the command I pasted worked just fine here
[01:45] <epp> PhilH, the only options are Alsa and <no Engine>
[01:45] <mkyb14> anyone know how to setup the dhcp after installing without an internet connection
[01:45] <shinu> Entranced: im on hoary and it doesnt work :)
[01:45] <epp> crimsun, when i try to run esd it says Device or resource busy..
[01:45] <mr_roboto> entranced: must be an enhanced version of find :)
[01:46] <crimsun> epp, what are you trying to do?
[01:46] <Entranced> mr_roboto, maybe :)
[01:46] <epp> im tryint to play my mp3s...
[01:46] <jrattner1> will the ATI Driver Installed work for ubuntu?
[01:46] <mr_roboto> i always just use "-exec" for that kind of stuff becuase it works everywhere
[01:46] <crimsun> epp, dpkg -l amarok\*|grep ^II
[01:46] <FR500> shinu, any ideas, it does run with sudo
[01:46] <crimsun> epp, err, grep ^ii
[01:46] <ryufreak> jrattner1 what video card do you have
[01:46] <shinu> FR500: basically, you got the stupid package from the backports... :)
[01:46] <shinu> FR500: i think :)
[01:47] <jrattner1> ryufreak,  ATI mobility radeon x6000
[01:47] <shinu> FR500: i think you have to remove them and reinstall or something
[01:47] <PhilH> epp: and it's got ALSA selected?
[01:47] <epp> yep-
[01:47] <TokenBad> borgista, it didn't give a responce...so is there a way using apt-get to get the ac3 codec?
[01:47] <epp> crimsun, ii  amarok         1.2.3-1ubuntu4 versatile and easy to use audio player for K
[01:47] <epp> ii  amarok-arts    1.2.3-1ubuntu4 aRts engine for the amaroK audio player
[01:47] <fredforfaen> what repos do i have to add to get e17 WM ?
[01:47] <n00bster> i have got to tell you all here something,...
[01:47] <shinu> FR500: pm me the result of: dpkg -l *firefox*
[01:47] <n00bster>  my staying with ubuntu is completely a BIG CREDIT for all you folks here...
[01:47] <B_166-ER-X> if i rm a file, where does it goes ?
[01:47] <epp> mabey esd is interfering with alsa?
[01:47] <borgista> TokenBad: maybe with the linux-restricted-modules package
[01:47] <KiwiKibi> where is the listing of files systems modules included in a release?  I need to look at such listing.
[01:48] <ryufreak> jrattner1 you can try it, and if it works, but if not, this is how i got my x800xl to work
[01:48] <n00bster> So A BIG TY to all of you ...
[01:48] <crimsun> epp, you want to install amarok-gstreamer
[01:48] <ryufreak> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=73422&postcount=4
[01:48] <TokenBad> borgista, you lost me
[01:48] <PhilH> epp: can you start arts manually?
[01:48] <ccooke> jrattner1: I'm using one of those now.
[01:48] <mkyb14> anyone please?
[01:48] <epp> how?
[01:48] <B_166-ER-X> if i rm a file, where does it goes ?
[01:48] <ccooke> jrattner1: works fine.
[01:48] <borgista> Search for that in Synaptics.
[01:48] <jrattner1> ccooke, are you using MESA? or fglrx
[01:48] <crimsun> epp, sudo aptitude install amarok-gstreamer
[01:48] <KiwiKibi> ryufreak: you talking to me?
[01:48] <n00bster> cya all..
[01:48] <nibbler00> I'm after the .debs for openoffice 2
[01:48] <ccooke> jrattner1: firegl
[01:48] <ryufreak> no, i'm talking to jrattner1
[01:48] <basti> what could be wrong if Idont get sound in VLC but in other apps such as gaim and Amarok ?
[01:48] <jrattner1> ccooke, howa re you using firegl?
[01:48] <epp> PhilH, how do i start alsa?
[01:49] <shinu> basti: it just gets deleted, doesnt go anywhere
[01:49] <fredforfaen> anyone knows how to install e17 via apt?
[01:49] <ccooke> jrattner1: in what way how? I have the module loaded and my driver set to it.
[01:49] <basti> shinu,  uh??
[01:49] <ryufreak> jrattner1, if the ubuntu provided fglrx doesn't work, try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=73422&postcount=4
[01:49] <epp> crimsun, i also want system sounds to work too...
[01:49] <crimsun> basti, that means you need to install vlc-plugin-esd
[01:49] <JDigital> epp: yyou could always ask in #alsa , heh
[01:49] <crimsun> epp, so install amarok-gstreamer
[01:49] <shinu> basti: oops :P wrong person :)
[01:49] <ryufreak> jrattner1, it worked for my x800xl pci-e
[01:49] <crimsun> JDigital, no, we'll just punt you back over here.
[01:49] <epp> crimsun, i did...
[01:49] <shinu> B_166-ER-X: it just gets deleted, doesnt go anywhere
[01:49] <crimsun> epp, and did you select it?
[01:49] <JDigital> hehe
[01:49] <basti> Thank you crimsun :)
[01:50] <jrattner1> ryufreak, alright im going to try that now
[01:50] <B_166-ER-X> okay
[01:50] <B_166-ER-X> thankx
[01:50] <shinu> B_166-ER-X: its hard to recover it, its not like windows
[01:50] <PhilH> epp: you don't start alsa, not in the same way you do aRts or ESD anyway
[01:50] <shinu> basti: pardon me, its 1am here :P
[01:50] <epp> oh shit...
[01:50] <ryufreak> does anyone know how i can get into my 2nd hard drive?......
[01:50] <ryufreak> :(
[01:50] <Carwash> ok, is there any other mp3 encoder besides k3b-mp3?
[01:50] <PhilH> epp: that sounds ominous
[01:50] <B_166-ER-X> shinu, i was jsut wanting to be sure it was deleted so its ok
[01:50] <ccooke> jrattner1: try the ubuntu method first.
[01:50] <Carwash> I still can't play mp3 :(
[01:51] <ccooke> jrattner1: it'll be a lot easier, and it works for most people
[01:51] <epp> PhilH, sry its not alsa thats in there its Arts
[01:51] <ryufreak> carwash, did you try xmms?
[01:51] <Carwash> no
[01:51] <Signifer123> whats wrong with audacity?
[01:51] <Carwash> how do I do that?
[01:51] <Signifer123> and lame enc...
[01:51] <MachineScrew> can any one tell me how to remove a package and all configs
[01:51] <shinu> B_166-ER-X: i see... and please dont repeat your question like that next time :)
[01:51] <crimsun> epp, the gstreamer engine is mislabeled. It often appears not to have a label in the engine selection.
[01:51] <jrattner1> ccooke, i tried the ubuntu method it did not wokr
[01:51] <PhilH> epp: and can you run it manually?
[01:51] <borgista> TokenBad: any luck?
[01:51] <mr_roboto> shinu: just as an FYI, before I do something dangerous with -exec, I usually do "-exec ls {} \;" and just list the files to be operated on to make sure I'm hitting the right files before actually doing it :)
[01:51] <jrattner1> ccooke, your on an ATI mobility radeon X6000?
[01:51] <relax> anyone knows here can i get alsa-tools and alsa-firmware to ubuntu ?
[01:51] <iiiears> !ntfs
[01:51] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[01:51] <Signifer123> dpkg -r appname
[01:52] <ryufreak> carwash, go into synaptics and search xmms
[01:52] <Carwash> ok
[01:52] <relax> i try to dkpg but have too mutch dependencies
[01:52] <butcherbird> MachineScrew: assuming it was an ubuntu package, sudo apt-get remove packagename?
[01:52] <crimsun> relax, we don't distribute them currently. We package alsa-tools in Debian, however.
[01:52] <TokenBad> borgista, not sure what you ment by that
[01:52] <crimsun> relax, however, alsa-firmware you'll have to download from ALSA's Web page.
[01:52] <MachineScrew> MachineScrew: did that but they still remain
[01:52] <ccooke> jrattner1: X600
[01:52] <ericz> i want to be able to like build programs from their source or whatever using ./configure... but it says no valid C compiler found in path or something, what do i need to do?
[01:52] <ccooke> jrattner1: and yes.
[01:52] <MachineScrew> butcherbird:  did that but the config files still remain
[01:52] <crimsun> ericz, install build-essential
[01:53] <ericz> ok
[01:53] <shinu> mr_roboto: ok! thanks :)
[01:53] <butcherbird> MachineScrew: you have to admire their will to live..
[01:53] <Carwash> ryufreak: ok,  I found it! Now what?
[01:53] <ccooke> jrattner1: what's your laptop?
[01:53] <butcherbird> MachineScrew: what do you mean by config files just .conf?
[01:53] <ryufreak> carwash, install it
[01:53] <iiiears> How To Forge ISP-Server Setup - Ubuntu CD to ISP/Web Host in an afternoon. - amazing.
[01:53] <ericz> crimsun: that's all i need? and it should work right
[01:53] <crimsun> ericz, that's all you need for the _basic_ compiler.
[01:53] <ryufreak> carwash, before you play anything on it, change the output plugin to esound
[01:54] <borgista> TokenBad: did you find the linux-restriced-module package?
[01:54] <MachineScrew> butcherbird: ok I am trying to remove every thing to do with ndiswrapper and start clean
[01:54] <ericz> ok
[01:54] <ryufreak> carwash, because if you don't it'll just freeze
[01:54] <borgista> TokenBad: In Synaptic
[01:54] <MachineScrew> butcherbird: is there a purge command or somthing
[01:54] <Carwash> ryufreak: I see. How do I install it? Sorry if this TOTALLY NOOB, but the 'apply' button is greyed
[01:54] <epp> crimsun, [GStreamer Error]  OSS Device "dev... already in use by another program"
[01:54] <mkyb14> anyone know when downloading ATI amd64 drivers if you choose the installer or "x-windows version"  that has below it XFree86 4.3?
[01:54] <mkyb14> which one
[01:54] <Signifer123> --purge :-P
[01:54] <ryufreak> carwash, double click on it
[01:55] <basti> How come I cannt add VLC as default player for .avi ???
[01:55] <Plebeuz> hello
[01:55] <MachineScrew> ok so dpkg --purge ndiswrapper-utils
[01:55] <odd-> who wants to host an online radio show?
[01:55] <crimsun> epp, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[01:55] <Carwash> ryufreak: nothing happened
[01:55] <Carwash> ok, I'm going to xmms's site and will download it form there
[01:55] <ryufreak> carwash, right click on it and click mark for installation
[01:55] <butcherbird> machineScrew, aptitude has a purge command..
[01:55] <TokenBad> borgista, I have one of those installed it seems
[01:55] <ryufreak> carwash, it's much easier to do it via synaptics
[01:55] <epp> crimsun, sry to no avail...
[01:56] <Plebeuz> i am newb on debian(ubunto) and i use slackware, anyone knows where i config rc files(suck rc.inet1 etc..)?
[01:56] <crimsun> epp, huh?
[01:56] <Carwash> ryufreak: nothing happens when I right click on it
[01:56] <epp> crimsun, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/ does nothin
[01:56] <ryufreak> !?
[01:56] <ubotu> ryufreak: No idea
[01:56] <crimsun> epp, pgrep esd
[01:56] <Carwash> ryufreak: I know, weird..
[01:56] <Carwash> Hmm
[01:56] <Carwash> hold a sec
[01:56] <mr_roboto> lsof |grep /dev/snd
[01:56] <ryufreak> carwash, is it already installed?
[01:56] <TokenBad> borgista, actually it seems I have 2 installed
[01:56] <crimsun> epp, what is System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink set to?
[01:57] <ali4728> I installed (postfix + courier-Imap) I want to know what are the paremeters for "Incoming mail server" and "Outgoing mail server" for the remote client ? Any commnets are appreciated..
[01:57] <crimsun> mr_roboto, just use lsof /dev/snd, no need to filter the output manually.
[01:57] <mr_roboto> well it gives diff results  s
[01:57] <Carwash> ryufreak: I'm not sure -- don't think so. I messed with the repositories, will that afffect it or something
[01:57] <mr_roboto> you DO need to filter on some versions of lsof, like mine
[01:58] <Carwash> ryufreak: I followed the wiki ubuntu guide with the repository thing
[01:58] <epp> crimsun, e is system prefs?
[01:58] <ericz> crimsun: maybe you can help again, i installed build-essential or whatever and i tried compiling it, it got past the part it messed up on last time, this time i get configure: error: unable to find a curses library -- FATAL
[01:58] <TokenBad> borgista, seems I have 2.6.10.5-1 and 2.6.10-7 installed
[01:58] <jrattner1> ryufreak, I cant find the RPM on the site
[01:58] <mr_roboto> using lsof version 4.74 here
[01:58] <ryufreak> carwash and jrattner1 hold on
[01:58] <Plebeuz> init.d :p
[01:58] <epp> crimsun,  erm, im in xfce where is sys prefs?
[01:58] <PhilH> mr_roboto: same result, different spacing
[01:58] <CarlFK> does edubuntu have a bit torrent client?
[01:59] <ericz> anyone, while compiling source for "naim" i got the error configure: error: unable to find a curses library -- FATAL
[01:59] <mr_roboto> PhilH    not same result, doesn't work if you don't filter
[01:59] <ericz> what should i do?
[01:59] <crimsun> epp, Xfce doesn't have it.
[01:59] <mr_roboto> lsof /dev/snd gives nothing at all      lsof |grep /dev/snd shows what is using the device
[01:59] <crimsun> epp, execute gstreamer-properties in a Terminal
[01:59] <Plebeuz> where i put the scrips, and config and chose what programs will starts on boot?
[01:59] <Plebeuz> in ubuntu
[01:59] <Plebeuz> ?
[02:00] <epp> crimsun, well i can select what device... either esd or defaut
[02:00] <crimsun> mr_roboto, that's because you're using the wrong syntax: It's lsof /dev/snd/*
[02:00] <mirak> is it possible to remount / readonly ?
[02:00] <ryufreak> jrattner1, x86-64?
[02:00] <Blissex> Plebeuz: look on the Debian site for the ''boot concept'' document.
[02:00] <mr_roboto> crimsun:   ahhh sorry!
[02:00] <Plebeuz> Blissex, tkz
[02:00] <iiiears> Carwash - LinuxQuestions.org is pretty nice.
[02:00] <jrattner1> ryufreak, its pentium 4
[02:00] <CarlFK> mirak im gona guess: umount / && mount -o ro /
[02:00] <jrattner1> ryufreak, is that 64?
[02:01] <CarlFK> mirak if you chain the two togetter, it should work
[02:01] <crimsun> epp, in gstreamer-properties, what is the default audio sink set to?
[02:01] <fredforfaen> !e17
[02:01] <ubotu> e17 is probably the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org
[02:01] <epp> crimsun, OSS
[02:01] <PhilH> crimsun: works for DSP with the asterisk here, should it not?
[02:01] <mirak> CarlFK: it says it's occupied
[02:01] <butcherbird> Carwash: if youre just looking for the right command "apropos whatever" is useful
[02:01] <crimsun> PhilH, dsp* != snd/*
[02:01] <ryufreak> jrattner1, https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9448/1m/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/fglrx_6_8_0-8.16.20-1.i386.rpm
[02:01] <CarlFK> mirak - oh yeah.... nm
[02:01] <PhilH> crimsun: without, rather
[02:02] <ryufreak> jrattner1, or https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300
[02:02] <crimsun> PhilH, that's because /dev/dsp is valid whereas /dev/snd isn't. /dev/snd/* is.
[02:02] <fredforfaen> anyone have any idea how i can install e17?
[02:02] <ericz> do i need to install something extra, when running ./configure on "naim" i get the error configure: error: unable to find a curses library -- FATAL
[02:02] <PhilH> crimsun: ah yes, sry
[02:03] <crimsun> ericz, what are you trying to compile?
[02:03] <Plebeuz> ericz, instal the ncurses package ....
[02:03] <Chinaman|Dinner> crimsun: i can't remove the folder
[02:03] <ryufreak> carwash, are you still there?
[02:03] <Mars__^> I have one question. A am trying to change image of one of the directories, but when iam trying to do that, it shows info that i am not permitted to do that, What can i do?
[02:03] <crimsun> epp, you should be able to use amarok fine then.
[02:03] <Chinaman|Dinner> crimsun: i get this message: Cannot move "/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver" to the trash because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.
[02:03] <crimsun> Chinaman|Dinner, in a Terminal
[02:03] <ryufreak> anyone know how to get my other harddrives detected :(
[02:03] <Trashcan> sudo
[02:03] <crimsun> Chinaman|Dinner, and make sure you are not currently in that directory
[02:04] <Plebeuz> sudo passwd root
[02:04] <Trashcan> sudo rm -r /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver
[02:04] <TokenBad> borgista, seems I have 2.6.10.5-1 and 2.6.10-7 installed
[02:04] <iiiears> nice tip "apropos ..."   so much to learn. ;)
[02:04] <Chinaman> Trashcan: thx
[02:04] <Carwash> ryufreak: ok, I downloaded xmms from their website and unziped the file on my desktop. Do I instlal it via synaptic  or can I do it via command line in terminal?
[02:04] <Plebeuz> hey what is the default root password in ubunto?
[02:05] <ryufreak> command line i'm assuming
[02:05] <Mars__^> ryufreak, maybo try different booting
[02:05] <crimsun> Carwash, sudo aptitude install xmms
[02:05] <Carwash> I see
[02:05] <crimsun> Carwash, no need to compile it yourself
[02:05] <Plebeuz> hey what is the default root password in ubunto?
[02:05] <crimsun> !root
[02:05] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:05] <Trashcan> plebeuz: root is disabled
[02:05] <iiiears> !rootsudo
[02:05] <Trashcan> sudo passwd root
[02:05] <ubotu> rootsudo is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:05] <Trashcan> type your use password
[02:05] <Trashcan> user*
[02:05] <Plebeuz> no
[02:05] <Trashcan> type new root password
[02:05] <Trashcan> confirm
[02:05] <Plebeuz> you wrong
[02:05] <Trashcan> ok.
[02:05] <Plebeuz> i have seted the root password
[02:06] <Plebeuz> and i am logged now as root
[02:06] <ryufreak> mars__^ what do you mean by different booting?
[02:06] <Plebeuz> just sudo passwd root
[02:06] <Plebeuz> then set a root password
[02:06] <Trashcan> so why are you asking for a default password
[02:06] <Plebeuz> u can log as root
[02:06] <epp> but it gives me the error at the bottom of amorok whenever i try to play a song that looks like [Gstreamer Error]  oss "dev... already in use by another program."
[02:06] <epp> crimsun, but it gives me the error at the bottom of amorok whenever i try to play a song that looks like [Gstreamer Error]  oss "dev... already in use by another program."
[02:06] <Trashcan> root is disabled by default
[02:06] <Trashcan> you enabled it
[02:06] <Trashcan> so, you're wrong
[02:06] <Trashcan> good job
[02:06] <Plebeuz> Trashcan, cus i whant know the default password for root on instalation
[02:06] <crimsun> Plebeuz, there is none.
[02:06] <Trashcan> there ISN'T one.
[02:06] <iiiears> Pleb - you can bypas the safer defaults and configure a root password if you like.
[02:06] <Trashcan> there is no root by default
[02:07] <crimsun> that the way d-i is configured for Ubuntu.
[02:07] <Plebeuz> crimsun, just take a look at /etc/shadow and see root
[02:07] <crimsun> that's^
[02:07] <Plebeuz> have a password default
[02:07] <iiiears> this is linux after all  - free to make the OS as personal as you like.
[02:07] <Plebeuz> but i dont imagine what pass is
[02:07] <Carwash> crimsun: when I type in  sudo aptitude install xmms, it says 'E: cannot get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock' and 'e: unable to lock the ad direct /var/lib/dpkg) is another process using it?
[02:08] <Mars__^> Intresting, i put cd in to drive, and clikck cd rom, but there is nothing in here, but it scould be. Any idea?
[02:08] <crimsun> Plebeuz, do you even understand what the syntax of /etc/shadow is?
[02:08] <epp> Carwash, close synaptic or anyother thing trying to apt get.
[02:08] <Carwash> Hmm ok
[02:09] <mr_roboto> If the password field con
[02:09] <mr_roboto>        tains some string that is not valid result of crypt(3), for instance ! or *, the user will not be able to use a  unix  password
[02:09] <mr_roboto>        to log in
[02:09] <iiiears> crimsun - lol
[02:09] <Carwash> yes yes yes!
[02:09] <Carwash> its done... hmm let me test it out if it works
[02:09] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: default root password is '*' which cannot be used to log in
[02:09] <relax> how can i compile the alsa-tools with libasound 1.09 or i have to downgrade my libasound ?
[02:09] <Plebeuz> crimsun, shadow is a shadow of a password who is encripted
[02:09] <crimsun> relax, just install libasound2-dev
[02:10] <epp> crimsun, are u stumped by my problem?
[02:10] <crimsun> Plebeuz, please read shadow(5)
[02:10] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: the /etc/shadow contains '*' for root, there is no useable password
[02:10] <Mars__^> Why ubuntu doesent recognise cd rom ?
[02:10] <Plebeuz> ok
[02:10] <crimsun> epp, no, there are a lot of people to help. Be patient.
[02:10] <ryufreak> !w32codecs
[02:10] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[02:10] <Carwash> Uh, this is embarassing, but how do I access xmms once I installed it?
[02:11] <ryufreak> applications->sounds and videos->xmms
[02:11] <Plebeuz> and where i put executables to init on boot in ubunto? and set what will begin or not on boot, and make bash scripts for boot?
[02:11] <Chinaman> crimsun: totem now recognizes my card
[02:11] <fredforfaen> anyone here knows of a way to install enlightenment17 by apt?
[02:11] <Chinaman> but now, how do i get mp3 decoders?
[02:11] <Carwash> its not there
[02:11] <EIGHTBALL> Can i have my background as a terminal
[02:12] <Chinaman> where do i get mp3 decoders?
[02:13] <Carwash> is xmms installed? In the terminal it says "0 packages upgraded, 0 newly instal, 0 to remove, 0 not upgraded'
[02:13] <Carwash> and when I search for xmms in synaptic, there is nothin gin the package
[02:13] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: it uses the system 5 style init scripts in /etc/rc<runlevel>.d and /etc/init.d
[02:13] <EIGHTBALL> sudo apt-get gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:13] <ryufreak> carwash, did you do sudo apt-get install xmms?
[02:13] <EIGHTBALL> ^^ for mp3 codecs
[02:13] <iiiears> chinaman
[02:14] <iiiears> !restrictedformats
[02:14] <ubotu> I guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[02:14] <Carwash> no, I did sudo aptitude install xmms
[02:14] <relax> crissum --> tkx !!!
[02:14] <ryufreak> try apt-get
[02:14] <Carwash> just did, it says xmms package not avaiable
[02:14] <epp> Carwash, why not use amarok?
[02:15] <Carwash> sounds cool! epp
[02:15] <jeronim`> is au.archive.ubuntu.com supposed to be in the uk?
[02:15] <crimsun> epp, try this: Manually start esd in a terminal, then in gstreamer-properties, select esd as the default audio sink.
[02:15] <jeronim`> because it is right now
[02:15] <ryufreak> can anyone tell me how to get into my other hard drive :((((((((((
[02:15] <mirak> a /boot is needed for LVM and GRUB ?
[02:15] <crimsun> epp, then make sure amarok is set to use the gstreamer engine (remember what I mentioned earlier regarding it being un/mislabeled sometimes)
[02:15] <epp> crimsun, i did that and it says device busy
[02:16] <crimsun> epp, what did you do?
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> ryufreak,  other as in where? ya just mount the thing whever ya want normally
[02:16] <Carwash> ok, I'm downloading amarok now :)
[02:16] <epp> its labled GStreamer... im on it...
[02:16] <ryufreak> dr_willis how do you mount it?
[02:17] <Plebeuz> where i config my network(i dont wnat to use DHC)
[02:17] <Plebeuz> DHCP
[02:17] <Plebeuz> *
[02:17] <B_166-ER-X> i installed Freecraft, but i see no shortcut anywhere , should i just run it from the console ?
[02:17] <epp> crimsun, ped esd in term and it says Device or resource busy
[02:17] <Trashcan> what is your device name?
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> ryufreak,  i normally use the mount command and the shell. or edit fstab.. it all depends on the kind of drive you are trying to get to.
[02:17] <iiiears> ryufreak - does fdisk -l  show available partitions/disks? - if it does you might find winmac_fstab.sh the easiest script to mount all available partitions and edit fstab.
[02:17] <ryufreak> dr_willis, i have a seperate 120gb hard drive as storage (in fat32 format) that i want to get to
[02:17] <epp> crimsun, i typed esd in term and it says Device or resource busy
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> ryufreak,   you want this a permenet mount? or just for now?
[02:17] <Trashcan> plebeuz: what's your device name?
[02:17] <Trashcan> eth0 or eth1?
[02:17] <Plebeuz> where i find some documentation of debian init.d files?
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[02:17] <ryufreak> iiiears fdisk -l does nothing
[02:17] <Plebeuz> eth0
[02:18] <ryufreak> dr_willis what do you mean permanent mount?
[02:18] <Plebeuz> i hav maded a script for my slackware for eth0
[02:18] <iiiears> ubotu tell ryufreak about winmac_fstab
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> ryufreak,  type "!ntfs" and go to the url the bot posts
[02:18] <Trashcan> sudo ifconfig eth0 ip.ip.ip.ip SUBNET sub.sub.sub.sub GATEWAY gate.gate.gate.gate
[02:18] <crimsun> epp, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[02:18] <Plebeuz> Trashcan, no
[02:18] <Plebeuz> Trashcan, for initialization
[02:18] <Plebeuz> Trashcan, on boot
[02:18] <ryufreak> dr_willis, the other hard drive format is in fat32
[02:18] <Trashcan> ah
[02:18] <Trashcan> dunno
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> ryufreak,  so. :P it dont matter.. that url the bot has is for both.
[02:19] <ryufreak> !ntfs
[02:19] <crimsun> epp, are you using KDE or GNOME at the moment?
[02:19] <epp> no xfce...
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> it pays to google for 'linux drive mount howto/tutorials' and learn how all tis works. :P
[02:19] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: I googled "system v init scripts" and the very first link was for slackware help" and there are many more helpful links there.
[02:19] <mr_roboto> kind of a large'ish topic
[02:19] <crimsun> epp, any reason you're using arts (which is essentially only relevant for KDE)?
[02:20] <thoreauputic> Plebeuz: interfaces (5)
[02:20] <epp> i dont know why i am...
[02:20] <crimsun> epp, pkill artsd
[02:20] <iiiears> Dr_Willis, - it sure does. that script is an eyeopener - it shows how flexible linux  scripting is
[02:20] <Carwash> guys, do I have to do the 'AddingRepositories' guide in order to play mp3?
[02:21] <crimsun> Carwash, for universe, yes.
[02:21] <Carwash> what the heck is universe, lol
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  i wasent refering to the script. :P ive never used it - lol. I know enogh fundamentals to edit fstab myself.
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> lol
[02:21] <crimsun> (well technically you could use totem-xine, which is in main)
[02:21] <crimsun> (so no, you don't _have_ to add universe for mp3 playback)
[02:21] <Lordphyn> hey, uprgrading to breezy broke my ndiswrapper (broadcom) - any ideas? Thanks!
[02:21] <epp> crimsun, i just installed ubuntu again... and i havent installed kde yet but sound works in gnome
[02:22] <Chinaman> guys...i'm not getting any sound from my speakers
[02:22] <crimsun> epp, right. After you pkill arts, try amarok
[02:22] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: looks like slackware uses bsd style instead of sys 5 style
[02:22] <crimsun> Chinaman, does music play at all?
[02:22] <Chinaman> yes
[02:22] <epp> k
[02:22] <Chinaman> it plays
[02:22] <Chinaman> but i'm not hearing anything
[02:22] <crimsun> Chinaman, paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:22] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, in slackware i have developed all my init scripts
[02:22] <crimsun> you probably just need to unmute the Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack
[02:23] <iiiears> crimsun - you are awesome.
[02:23] <crimsun> iiiears, eh?
[02:23] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, and i am trying to understand the init script in ubunto
[02:23] <iiiears> really glad you are here. :)
[02:23] <crimsun> me, too.
[02:23] <Chinaman> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2703
[02:23] <ryufreak> dr_willis, when i googled that, i got something about mkdir /mnt/second_hdd or whatever, which didn't work out that good
[02:23] <epp> crimsun, nope doesnt work...
[02:23] <epp> can i install an alsa plugin for amarok
[02:23] <crimsun> epp, which engine is amarok configured to use?
[02:23] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: ubuntu uses sys 5 style     just google it and you can find out all about it. you use 'S' and 'K' scripts (links to scripts) to stop and start stuff for each run level
[02:24] <epp> right now its Gstreamer
[02:24] <ryufreak> dr_willis but that winmac-fstab worked
[02:24] <ryufreak> thx
[02:24] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: the scripts themselves are in /etc/init.d
[02:24] <iiiears> ryu - lol
[02:24] <Carwash> what is 'universe'
[02:24] <ryufreak> iiiears thanks too :D
[02:24] <epp> crimsun, i just typed esd and it worked for some reason
[02:24] <crimsun> Chinaman, right. In a Terminal, type amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[02:24] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, yes i have readed about it, but now i am trying to find where the sistem have configured DHCP for my networ on boot
[02:25] <Trashcan> universe and multiverse = not maintained by ubuntu team
[02:25] <Carwash> ok
[02:25] <crimsun> epp, ok, then change gstreamer-properties to use esdsink instead of osssink
[02:25] <Chinaman> crimsun: ok
[02:25] <crimsun> epp, then try to play music using amarok
[02:25] <Chinaman> crimsun: you are da bomb
[02:25] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: can't you just edit /etc/network/interfaces and set the interface to static instead of dhcp?
[02:25] <crimsun> Chinaman, now sudo alsactl store
[02:25] <SlicerDicer-> amarork rocks!
[02:26] <epp> i did.. it doent work
[02:26] <fredforfaen> anyone here knows how to install e17 via apt?
[02:26] <Chinaman> crimsun: got it
[02:26] <epp> crimson, i even used esdsink
[02:26] <epp> crimsun, i even used esdsink
[02:26] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: "man interfaces" has a great example of exactly how to do it. then do "if-down && if-up"
[02:26] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, tkz
[02:26] <Chinaman> you are da 1337
[02:26] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, if down and ifuo i understand
[02:26] <crimsun> Chinaman, bu shei
[02:26] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, yes is /etc/networking/interfaces the config file
[02:26] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: the script you're looking for probably is running ifup
[02:27] <Plebeuz> tkz
[02:27] <Plebeuz> y
[02:27] <ryufreak> iiiears do you know where winmac_fstab mounted the hard drives to?
[02:27] <mr_roboto> oops, no dash... just ifdown && ifup (but don't sue me if i misremembered :)
[02:27] <crimsun> epp, ok, so esd is running, gstreamer-properties's sink is configured to use esdsink, and amarok is configured to use gstreamer as its engine?
[02:28] <janne_Newbie> hi all!
[02:28] <epp> yep
[02:28] <ryufreak> iiiears, nevermind found it /media/
[02:28] <epp> well...
[02:28] <janne_Newbie> how can force install deb packages...? i have some unresolved dependencies...?
[02:28] <AngryParsley> dpkg -i I think
[02:28] <epp> crimsun, well in amorok in the engine selection i set engine to Gstreamer and in the Gstreamer properties in amorok i set ESD
[02:29] <janne_Newbie> dpkg -i does only install.........
[02:29] <Trashcan> janne: man dpkg?
[02:29] <AngryParsley> oh, right
[02:30] <ryufreak> janne_newbie, did you try --force-overwrite -i
[02:30] <iiiears> ryufreak - i was knocked flat by this script  to change wma files to mp3 it is beautiful. :) check it out. http://blogs.linux.ie/xeer/2005/08/16/how-to-convert-from-wma-to-mp3/
[02:31] <crimsun> epp, ok, and what's the output from lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* ?
[02:31] <crimsun> epp, paste onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:32] <janne_Newbie> u mean like: sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i <debpackage>
[02:32] <iiiears> winmac_fstab started my daily script addiction. - going to learn bash scripting if it kills me. - grin
[02:32] <ryufreak> janne_newbie, i assume, i don't know it it'll work but you can try
[02:32] <ryufreak> janne_newbie, thats how i force installed my video card drivers
[02:32] <janne_Newbie> ok...
[02:32] <janne_Newbie> ill try...
[02:33] <flam> is there a gnome application similar to kate?
[02:33] <ryufreak> iiiears you have any idea how to get w32codecs up and running?
[02:33] <iiiears> no scripting available in the default version of windows vista. :?
[02:33] <Chinaman> does anyone know of any good media players?
[02:33] <ccooke> iiiears: I believe they took it out, yeah
[02:33] <Chinaman> i got vlc for my videos
[02:34] <ccooke> iiiears: if you want to learn scripting, read the bash manpage. It's laid out quite well.
[02:34] <Chinaman> but anything like winamp for hoary?
[02:34] <ccooke> Chinaman: xmms?
[02:34] <iiiears> ryufreak, - it i install the codecs first and the apps seem to find them? - (yep i am a newb - lol)
[02:34] <ryufreak> chinaman xmms
[02:34] <riad> hello
[02:34] <ryufreak> iiiears, synaptics doesn't have the w32codecs anymore :(
[02:34] <d33p_> while trying to dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy I got this... Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.19_i386.deb        /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.12-9-686_2.6.12-9.19_i386.deb, how can I solve it?
[02:35] <Chinaman> how do i make the soundcard output 100%?
[02:35] <riad> how do I see windows XP file directory from UBUNTU?
[02:35] <janne_Newbie> it does try....but saying same errors....i think i just download more files and keep trying to solve problem that way....
[02:35] <Chinaman> riad: go to ubuntuguide.org and search for mounting ntfs partition
[02:35] <janne_Newbie> ...and i use that command u gave me...
[02:35] <riad> thanks
[02:35] <iiiears> they are on the net. sourceforge might be a good starting place.
[02:35] <ryufreak> janne_newbie good luck.....depending on how much dependencies you need, that might take days
[02:36] <janne_Newbie> yes i know.....i hope i only need one file.....never know....=)
[02:36] <d33p_> how do I solve a dependency problem found while dist-upgrading from hoary to breezy
[02:36] <ryufreak> hehe
[02:36] <epp> crimsun, k postyed as epp
[02:36] <vader1102> iiiears, http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/ for w32 codecs on Breezy
[02:36] <Chinaman> riad: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[02:37] <ryufreak> iiiears, does it matter if i'm on x86-64?
[02:37] <iiiears> nice link vader! :)
[02:37] <vader1102> yw
[02:37] <ccooke> for((P=10**8,Q=P/100,X=320*Q/(`tput cols`-1),Y=210*Q/`tput lines`,y=-105*Q,v=\
[02:37] <ccooke> -220*Q,x=v;y<105*Q;x=v,y+=Y));do for((;x<P;a=b=i=k=c=0,x+=X));do for((;a*a+b*\
[02:37] <ccooke> b<2*P*P&&i++<99;a=((c=a)*a-b*b)/P+x,b=2*c*b/P+y));do :;done;(((j=(i<99?i%16:0\
[02:37] <ccooke> )+30)>37?k=1,j-=8:0));echo -ne "\E[$k;$j"mE;done;echo -e \\E;done # ccooke
[02:37] <ccooke> gah!
[02:37] <ccooke> sorry. wrong window.
[02:37] <ryufreak> vader1102, any idea how to get them on an x86-64, hoary?
[02:38] <vader1102> ryufreak,  no idea
[02:38] <riad> thanks a lot
[02:38] <crimsun> epp, in gstreamer-properties, does the Test icon for audio sink work?
[02:38] <ryufreak> :(
[02:38] <ryufreak> lol
[02:38] <relax> how can i do to jack starts with gnome ?
[02:38] <vader1102> I only had them for 1386 or whatever it is called
[02:38] <crimsun> relax, come again?
[02:38] <epp> yep
[02:38] <ryufreak> i386
[02:39] <ryufreak> !w32codecs
[02:39] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[02:39] <crimsun> epp, ok, in amarok's gstreamer engine configuration, can you choose which sink to use?
[02:39] <relax> ?
[02:39] <relax> i cant ?
[02:39] <Plebeuz> debian is very different heheheh
[02:39] <epp> yep
[02:39] <crimsun> relax, rephrase your question. I didn't understand what you're asking.
[02:39] <vader1102> ryufreak, read Ubutu's comment
[02:39] <epp> i have always picked esd
[02:39] <relax> look
[02:40] <ryufreak> yah, that's why i did !w32codecs :D
[02:40] <Plebeuz> if i set a script on int.d with the flasg not executable he will boot anywhay?
[02:40] <epp> crimsun, i have always picked esd
[02:40] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: you mean the init scripts?
[02:40] <ryufreak> !xine-ui
[02:40] <ubotu> ryufreak: Are you smoking crack?
[02:40] <crimsun> epp, what other options are there?
[02:40] <ryufreak> yes..
[02:40] <crimsun> ryufreak, you neglected "info"
[02:41] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, y
[02:41] <ryufreak> !info xine-ui
[02:41] <relax> i work with audio, and have to use qjackctl (jack), i want to use when gnome starts he start qjackctl and put like a icon in tray
[02:41] <ubotu> xine-ui: (the xine video player, user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.99.3-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1669 kB, Installed size: 3364 kB
[02:41] <relax> like in demudi
[02:41] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: why wouldn't it boot? just because one script failed to run? i suppose it depends on what that script did
[02:41] <mattyJ> my libstdc++ got deleted on acident, without it i cant open synaptic or firefox, can someone do me a favor and give me a link to the ubuntu package so i can reinstall it?
[02:41] <ryufreak> Package xine-ui is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:42] <ryufreak> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:42] <ryufreak> is only available from another source
[02:42] <ryufreak> ,
[02:42] <ryufreak> what does that mean
[02:42] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, in slack i just create a script and put the o /etc/rc.d if a set he executable he starts on boot, if i set it not executable, he dont execute on init
[02:42] <sorush20> hi guys
[02:42] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, i dont tested the boot, i just trying to understand the debian boot
[02:42] <crimsun> relax, System> Preferences> Sessions> Startup Programs
[02:42] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: you need to read how sys v init works.   you need the link in the run level dir (rc?.d)
[02:43] <sorush20> is it just me or does everyone want to have sex with the penguin
[02:43] <Abdul_Mueid> hey sorush20
[02:43] <Abdul_Mueid> how are you?
[02:43] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, something like update-rc.d  ?
[02:43] <relax> heheh
[02:43] <relax> tkx
[02:43] <epp> alsasink, osssink, nassink, autoaudiosink, afsink, gconfaudiosink
[02:43] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: when the system is booting, it goes UP through the run levels starting stuff with the 'S' links
[02:43] <epp> crimsun,  alsasink, osssink, nassink, autoaudiosink, afsink, gconfaudiosink
[02:44] <mr_roboto> when it goes downward , it runs the 'K' links to kill stuff
[02:44] <crimsun> epp, choose autoaudiosink
[02:44] <mr_roboto> in numerical order   (e.g. S1 runs before S2, etc)
[02:44] <karmatoburn> excuse me is there anyway to recover/change my root pw w/out a live cd?
[02:44] <sorush20> any one here knows how to sort out this problem
[02:45] <crimsun> karmatoburn, so you did in fact set a root password?
[02:45] <karmatoburn> or can point > toward a howto
[02:45] <Plebeuz> ok they run rcS.d/ scripts then the rcrunlevel.d scripts?
[02:45] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: you should just read up on it. it's a little more complicated than the bsd init but it's more flexible
[02:45] <karmatoburn> yeah i think so
[02:45] <crimsun> !root
[02:45] <ubotu> hmm... root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:45] <crimsun> see that URL
[02:45] <mkyb14> what does /bin/sh: can't build access tty; job control turned off      ..... this after i updated the hory amd64 ..... whatsthis mean
[02:45] <mattyJ> my libstdc++ got deleted on acident, without it i cant open synaptic apt-get or firefox, can someone do me a favor and give me a link to the ubuntu package so i can reinstall it?
[02:45] <karmatoburn> oh noshit?
[02:45] <karmatoburn> oppps
[02:45] <crimsun> mattyJ, deleted on accident?
[02:45] <karmatoburn> can i say that here
[02:45] <mattyJ> crimsun: yes.
[02:45] <crimsun> no one just deletes the standard C++ library by accident.
[02:46] <crimsun> ;)
[02:46] <mattyJ> i do!
[02:46] <epp> crimsun, at the bottom of amarok it says Error Failed to initialize.. failed to find supported audio sink
[02:46] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: yes... there is a README there that says as much
[02:46] <karmatoburn> thanks
[02:46] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, i am reading they heheh
[02:46] <crimsun> epp, are you using Hoary or Breezy?
[02:46] <mattyJ> crimsun: no i have no way of getting the package, everythings needs it
[02:46] <crimsun> mattyJ, are you using current Breezy?
[02:46] <mkyb14> anyone
[02:46] <epp> hoaruy
[02:46] <epp> crimsun hoary
[02:47] <vader1102> mattyJ,  can you use the terminal?
[02:47] <ryufreak> !info quicktime
[02:47] <crimsun> epp, ok, pkill esd and install amarok-xine
[02:47] <vader1102> sorry crimsun
[02:47] <mattyJ> crimsun: yes, im on the computer right now, terminal works dpkg wroks, apt-get doesnt firefox doesnt
[02:47] <karmatoburn> do most users leave it that way?
[02:48] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, i created a file test with echo TEST > /var/log/test inside
[02:48] <crimsun> epp, then choose the xine engine in amarok
[02:48] <jojomonkey> anyone having problems w/ the backports mirror, mirrormax.net ?
[02:48] <ericz> i am
[02:48] <jodua> Anyone know why I am loosing my wireless connection and have to restart everytime to reconnect?
[02:49] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, the i cd /etc/rc.d and ln -s /etc/init.d/test test
[02:49] <ericz> jojomonkey, i commented out the mirromax backports mirror repositories, i kept getting 404
[02:49] <Plebeuz> that should work?
[02:49] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: if you want it to ALWAYS run on boot, link to it in /etc/rcS.d, give it something higher than S75
[02:49] <mr_roboto> no, give it a number and the S to start, like S80test
[02:49] <vader1102> jodua, are you close to the wireless connection? like a strong or week signal
[02:49] <mattyJ> crimsun: do you know where the packages are located? is there a ftp or something with packages so i can download it, i really have no way of looking for myself nothing works
[02:49] <Plebeuz> ops rc5.d
[02:49] <Glycerine> jodua, I have to ifdown/up once i start the wpasupplicant
[02:49] <jojomonkey> ericz: ok
[02:49] <crimsun> mattyJ, what cpu?
[02:50] <karmatoburn> bingo thanks guys
[02:50] <mattyJ> p4, using 386 kernel though
[02:50] <karmatoburn> elite help
[02:50] <karmatoburn> gotta jam
[02:50] <crimsun> mattyJ, dpkg -l gcc-4.0|grep ^II
[02:50] <crimsun> mattyJ, sorry, that's ^ii
[02:50] <ubuntu> hi
[02:50] <epp> crimsun, well there is no sound but the bar of the song palys the song in like 2 seconds
[02:50] <ubuntu> i love this programme
[02:50] <epp> crimsun, when before it wouldnt even move
[02:51] <mattyJ> crimsun: gcc-4.0        4.0.1-4ubuntu8 The GNU C compiler
[02:51] <crimsun> epp, is amarok the only program that can't play audio?
[02:51] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: like ln -s /usr/local/bin/myscript /etc/rc.d/S80test
[02:51] <crimsun> mattyJ, wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.0/libstdc++6_4.0.1-4ubuntu8_i386.deb
[02:51] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz:  oops, /etc/rcS.d I meant
[02:51] <ubuntu> hi
[02:51] <jodua> vader1102 I do have a strong signal...my bf connects fine with gentoo.... Glycerine what do you mean by a ifdown/up once you start? no idea lol
[02:51] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto,  humm ok i am understanding
[02:51] <ubuntu> 'where are you from
[02:51] <crimsun> mr_roboto, you'll also find it in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:51] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: the 'S' means Start and the number is the sequence the script run in
[02:51] <epp> lemme check
[02:52] <mattyJ> crimsun: yay, everything works again :0
[02:52] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto,  ok
[02:52] <Glycerine> jodua, ifconfig will tell you your current network info.  Including which adapter your wireless is, eth1, eth0 etc
[02:52] <jodua> yea i have wlan0
[02:52] <mr_roboto> 'K' means kill (runs the init.d script with -stop)
[02:52] <Glycerine> jodua, ifdown will bring down the interface, similarly to turning the radio off in windoze
[02:52] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: also, make sure you coded it right (to accept -start, -stop)
[02:53] <ryufreak> aanyone know how to get the quicktime plugin to work with firefox?
[02:53] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto,  ok
[02:53] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: although I guess it will just run no matter what you pass it if you don't care :)
[02:53] <Glycerine> jodua, and you can figure out ifup ;)  so instead of just rebooting, you can try sudo ifdown wlan0 to bring it down and sudo ifup to bring it back up
[02:53] <jodua> glycerine ok...so once i do that what happens?
[02:53] <crimsun> ryufreak, might be easier to just use the vlc plugin
[02:53] <Lordphyn> hey, can anyone help with ndiswrapper issues? I installed it manually and had it working just fine in hoard, but after upgrading to breezy, I've tried just about everything and can't get my wireless card back. Any help?
[02:53] <jodua> ok
[02:53] <Glycerine> jodua,  not so much a fix, as a workaround :)
[02:53] <displague> whn you are in a terminal and get the console beep - you also get the drum sound.  Is there a way to get rid of the beep without the drum?
[02:53] <ryufreak> crimsun, where would i get vlc, i searched it in synaptics, it's not there
[02:53] <jodua> so that should work then? cuz if i try to reconnect after it d/c me it always says "no working leases in persistant database -sleeping"
[02:54] <Glycerine> displague, turn off terminal bell in the gnome-terminal prefs?
[02:54] <crimsun> ryufreak, it's in the universe repository.
[02:54] <epp> crimsun, installing xmms now
[02:54] <crimsun> ryufreak, you want 'mozilla-plugin-vlc'
[02:55] <jodua> glycerine thanks alot...hopefully that will work
[02:55] <Glycerine> jodua, never got that, if i had to guess, i'd say that was a lost dhcp lease issue but i dunno.  Only way to find out is give it a shot :)
[02:55] <Lordphyn> ryufreak, you may also want to check out the MediaPlayerConnectivity plugin for mozilla; you can switch viewers easily with it
[02:55] <jodua> k thanks again
[02:55] <iiiears> crimsun - "Francis Giannaros" .org?   Very nice of him do you know his IRC name?
[02:56] <Glycerine> np
[02:56] <crimsun> iiiears, no
[02:56] <displague> Glycerine: that disables both of them.. I also tried set bell-style none > ~/.inputrc... that disabled both also
[02:56] <ryufreak> crimsun so how do i install this package?
[02:56] <psusi> anyone know how to tell mkinitramfs to use the modules for the new version of the kernel you just built instead of the one you are currently running?
[02:57] <epp> crimsun, xmms plays fine...
[02:57] <crimsun> ryufreak, you enable the universe repository, then install that package
[02:57] <ryufreak> crimsun how do i do that
[02:57] <crimsun> !repos
[02:57] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:57] <Glycerine> displague, so you need that as a trigger, but need to stop it from hitting the pc speaker...
[02:57] <crimsun> ryufreak, search the wiki for addingrepositoryhowto
[02:57] <crimsun> ryufreak, or addingrepositorieshowto
[02:57] <Glycerine> displague, dunno... search on how to disable the pc speaker?  bout all i can think of
[02:58] <iiiears> Where can i find the authors md5sum for this?    sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[02:58] <ssdd65> has anyone gotten a integrated eth adapter working, if so how?
[02:58] <Glycerine> but i've never played with any of that, i hate the beep/drum sound and turn it all off :)
[02:59] <crimsun> epp, is XMMS using oss or esd?
[02:59] <yoink> what is the site that you can paste stuff on and then get a link to it?
[02:59] <iiiears> < willing to help host the torrents - just don't want to help with malware.
[02:59] <yoink> like for large code segments?
[02:59] <ericz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[02:59] <shivi> I just installed ubuntu and updated/upgraded everything
[02:59] <shivi> dvd won't work
[03:00] <Glycerine> displague, tried unloading pcspkr module?
[03:01] <Glycerine> shivi, playing or reading data?
[03:02] <epp> crimsun, oss
[03:02] <Trashcan> who
[03:02] <Trashcan> a
[03:02] <yoink> synaptic doesnt like my sources.list, but its a copy from the ubuntuguide...any ideas?
[03:02] <Chinaman> crimsun: can i get XMMS to use ALSA?
[03:02] <crimsun> epp, so you killed esd prior to starting XMMS?
[03:03] <crimsun> Chinaman, just select the ALSA output plugin in Preferences
[03:03] <KiwiKibi> Is Breezy Bollocks--i can never remember the second word--out already?  Which is the stable version for the Enterprise edition?
[03:03] <epp> yep
[03:03] <Chinaman> i chose it but then it says it doesn't work
[03:03] <karmatoburn> next question, why is i can write or drag and drop fonts
[03:03] <glick> excuse me this is a general unix question
[03:03] <ssdd65> has anyone gotten a integrated eth adapter working, if so how?
[03:03] <crimsun> KiwiKibi, Breezy _Badger_ is out 13 October. The enterprise edition is the same.
[03:03] <karmatoburn> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
[03:04] <karmatoburn> it says i need pemission
[03:04] <Chinaman> ssdd65: should work on its own...can you tell us which one it is?
[03:04] <KiwiKibi> you mean there's no Enterprise edition for the Hoary Hore?
[03:04] <crimsun> epp, so none of the engines in amarok work?
[03:04] <Glycerine> ssdd65, my generic nf2 ones work np, ditto on the dell 600m laptop
[03:04] <crimsun> KiwiKibi, there's no difference is the software.
[03:04] <ssdd65> its a sis 190
[03:04] <glick> whenever i commit something via CVS it changes the ownership and group of the file so that the other people in the group can not access it anymore
[03:04] <glick> why id it doing that
[03:04] <Chinaman> ssdd65: that sounds old, how old is that?
[03:05] <ssdd65> thanks....
[03:05] <KiwiKibi> why is one called Enterprise edition then?
[03:05] <Chinaman> hmm
[03:05] <Chinaman> wait
[03:05] <mr_roboto> glick: that's not a general unix question, that's a CVS question :)   there are a couple of ways to solve that
[03:05] <Chinaman> gigabit ethernet right?
[03:05] <crimsun> KiwiKibi, people love hearing Enterprise edition.
[03:05] <epp> crimsun, nope...
[03:05] <crimsun> warm fuzzy feelings and such
[03:05] <mr_roboto> glick: make that repository group writeable and put all users of it in that group or...
[03:05] <epp> mabey cuz its an kde app kde has to be installed
[03:06] <crimsun> epp, no, I ran amarok without having the entirety of KDE installed.
[03:06] <mr_roboto> glick: in the passwd file for CVS, make all users become a user id specific to that repository and make it writeable only by that user id
[03:06] <Chinaman> ssdd65: lemme find you something on linux forums, hold up
[03:06] <crimsun> so it's possible.
[03:06] <KiwiKibi> *coughthat'sstupidcough*
[03:06] <karmatoburn> if root is disable why would it ask me for
[03:06] <karmatoburn> it
[03:06] <glick> well we did the first one
[03:06] <glick> but many of us belong to several groups
[03:06] <crimsun> epp, another thing you might want to try is using amarok 1.3.2 from the kubuntu.org repo.
[03:06] <karmatoburn> 1st time with ubuntu
[03:06] <crimsun> epp, see the link on kubuntu.org
[03:06] <karmatoburn> sorry
[03:07] <epp> is it newer?
[03:07] <yoink> can someone post their working sources.list to pastebin.com?
[03:07] <crimsun> epp, yes
[03:07] <crimsun> !tell yoink about repos
[03:07] <epp> oh for sure then
[03:08] <mr_roboto> glick: make sure your umask doesn't turn off the group write bit
[03:08] <ssdd65> Chinaman: ok...
[03:08] <epp> crimsun, wehre is the repo?
[03:08] <glick> where is my umask?
[03:08] <karmatoburn> i could really use some with write my fonts
[03:08] <yoink> crimsun, thanks, ill see if that explains it
[03:08] <epp> im on kubuntu.com
[03:08] <Chinaman> ssdd65: seems that a lot of people are having probs with that
[03:09] <Chinaman> ...
[03:09] <Chinaman> interesting
[03:09] <mr_roboto> usually it gets set in your .profile (or .bash_profile or whatever init script is used by the shell you're using)
[03:09] <cycom> Hey all: Just figured I'd pass a little tidbit of knowledge on.  My gpsd killing ipw2200 was a result of some funky acpi stuff, which, if I turned off, would screw up my battery guage and cpu throttling.  If I set pci=routeirq then my sound wouldn't work, but my gps would.  My final solution was pass pci=noacpi acpi=noirq and everything is very happy.
[03:09] <cycom> including me.
[03:09] <ssdd65> yea thought id ask b4 taking all the time to trouble shoot it...
[03:09] <ryufreak> crimsun you still there?
[03:10] <Chinaman> ssdd65: tried this yet: http://www.sis.com/download/download_step1.php
[03:10] <crimsun> ryufreak, somewhat, I'm about to head out.
[03:10] <ssdd65> lets c...
[03:10] <epp>  !tell epp about repos
[03:10] <mr_roboto> glick: the best thing to do is to create a fake user that can't be logged into, then make the users of your repository become that user for the purposes of using CVS on that repository
[03:10] <ryufreak> lol, nevermind then
[03:11] <Chinaman> ssdd65: i found something over there on linux
[03:11] <karmatoburn> is there a ubunta faq?
[03:11] <rob^> !faq
[03:11] <ubotu> methinks faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[03:11] <Chinaman> ssdd65: the name is sis190191_linux.tar.gz
[03:11] <mkyb14> i have ntsf drives along with my linux install... how do i access them so i can play my music??
[03:11] <Plebeuz> whats the diference beetween debian and ubunto?
[03:11] <ssdd65> Chinaman: it loaded a blank page....
[03:11] <Chinaman> -.-
[03:12] <glick> my umask is 0022
[03:12] <Chinaman> ssdd65: http://www.sis.com/download/
[03:12] <mirak> I tried to do
[03:12] <mirak> grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/120/ /dev/hdd
[03:12] <mr_roboto> glick: that turns off the write bit for group
[03:12] <Chinaman> try that and then select network driver, linux, etc
[03:12] <mirak> and it says : /dev/hdd does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[03:12] <epp> !tell epp about repos
[03:12] <mr_roboto> glick: 0002 would leave it on
[03:12] <Chinaman> Plebeuz: i'd like to have that answered myself
[03:12] <Plebeuz> Chinaman, hehehe
[03:13] <Glycerine> anyone gotten a proper 1680x1050 resolution out of breezy with fglrx driver?
[03:13] <Plebeuz> Chinaman, sis drivers works automatic in the ubunto
[03:13] <ssdd65> ?
[03:13] <docles> how do i enable nvidia drive into breezy ?
[03:13] <ryufreak> !w32codecs
[03:13] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[03:13] <Chinaman> it should but ssdd65 is getting probs
[03:14] <ssdd65> leme reboot and try it....
[03:14] <yoink> crimsun, i copied the example sources.list and uncommented the backports and extras...it gave me this error...
[03:14] <yoink> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/380164
[03:14] <vader1102> Plebeuz, Chinaman Ubuntu Rox and Debian doesn't Ubunutu suupports is there ALL of the time
[03:14] <Glycerine> did some googling and there's a few problems with sis chipsets
[03:14] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: from what I've read, ubuntu started with debian and changed it enough that all packages are no longer portable between them, although most do seem to be.
[03:14] <ssdd65> thanks for all the help....
[03:14] <Hunner> meu ubuntu quando vai inicia tela grafica fica tudo preto ..... minha placa de video eh geforce fx5200
[03:14] <Hunner> alguem pode me ajudar
[03:14] <Chinaman> yoink: i get that too
[03:15] <karmatoburn> someone has to know how to help me fiXor my fonts
[03:15] <Plebeuz> hmm
[03:15] <crimsun> yoink, did you apt-get update ?
[03:15] <Plebeuz> hey dont have a modprobe.conf to config the drivers?
[03:15] <karmatoburn> hmmm
[03:15] <karmatoburn> can i use the root account
[03:15] <Chinaman> crimsun: i did apt-get update and nothing happened
[03:15] <Plebeuz> i think /etc/modprobe.d
[03:15] <mr_roboto> glick: just as an aside, if you're just beginning to learn CVS, you might want to go with Subversion instead
[03:15] <karmatoburn> juz no password?
[03:15] <Chinaman> i still get those kind of messages
[03:15] <yoink> crimsun, i opened synaptic actually
[03:15] <crimsun> Plebeuz, do not touch /etc/modprobe.conf
[03:15] <crimsun> Plebeuz, put stuff inside /etc/modprobe.d/
[03:16] <Plebeuz> noo
[03:16] <Plebeuz> yess
[03:16] <glick> mr_roboto, im using cvs with a group thing, they set it up
[03:16] <karmatoburn> ok thanks
[03:16] <maxmouse> Im having some problems getting enemy territory running with a radeon 9600, fglrxinfo has all ATI info, and fgl_glxgears runs, however whenever i try to run enemy territory it says its using the Mesa GL renderer which i guess the game doesnt like, how do i fix this?
[03:16] <mr_roboto> glick: ahh, ok.
[03:16] <yoink> crimsun, but apt-get update doesnt work either...it can't connect to the unofficial repos i think
[03:16] <crimsun> yoink, probably a known issue then. I don't use them.
[03:16] <maxmouse> ive tried going through the config a couple of times, changing things, but that doesnt help
[03:17] <glick> how come my vim backspace over ssh does not work correctly? it inserts funny chars into the text, however backspace on the commandline works fine
[03:17] <Plebeuz> there is a thing very good on slackware, is a rc.modules who have a list os varius hardware suported, and u just need to uncoment a line with a driver then ./rc.modules and the hardware is working perfectly
[03:17] <mr_roboto> glick: wrong terminal type on the host you're logging into?  when you get there, try "stty erase <backspace>" to fix it
[03:18] <crimsun> Plebeuz, there's udev+hotplug
[03:18] <Chinaman> can someone help me with java sdk?
[03:18] <yoink> can anyone here connect to the unofficial repos?
[03:18] <epp> i can
[03:18] <Chinaman> i've been trying all day and i still don't know how to compile yet
[03:18] <Plebeuz> crimsun, my mouse isnt working in console mode
[03:18] <Chinaman> epp: can you please help moi?
[03:18] <crimsun> Plebeuz, we don't install or enable gpm.
[03:18] <ryufreak> !ati
[03:18] <Plebeuz> crimsun, usb microsoft
[03:18] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[03:19] <glick> still does it damn it
[03:19] <maxmouse> ryufreak, if that was for me, thanks dood
[03:19] <durt> !mexicans
[03:19] <ubotu> durt: Syntax error in line 1
[03:19] <epp> crimsun, ok so i added all the repos i could find and still no amorok 1.3...
[03:19] <mr_roboto> glick: you going through pserver or using a local filesystem?
[03:19] <mkyb14> anyone know how to mount ntfs drives?
[03:20] <mr_roboto> glick: what CVSROOT do you use?
[03:20] <glick> mr_roboto, using the local filesystem
[03:20] <epp> !tell mkyb14 about ntfs
[03:20] <Carwash> what is a 'Universe and Multiverse repositories'
[03:21] <karmatoburn> anyone feel like helping with a font problem?
[03:21] <Grev> anyone using Breezy with nvidia here?
[03:21] <durt> yes grev
[03:21] <Chinaman> epp: where do i start if i want j2sdk?
[03:21] <joetheodd> Hey, how do I watch a DVD?
[03:21] <Plebeuz> xmms rox
[03:21] <epp> Chinaman have u looked in repos?
[03:21] <mr_roboto> glick: I think that once the files are in CVS, it will keep using the same permissions as when they were first added. You will probably have to chmod the repository itself to fix teh permissions, after which they should be ok. CVS is a PITA that way (with permission)
[03:21] <joetheodd> DVDs work in XMMS Plebeuz?
[03:22] <Plebeuz> joetheodd, xmms is for play mp3
[03:22] <Chinaman> epp: i can install j2sdk 1.5 but how do i get jedit or an IDE working?
[03:22] <epp> crimsun, what repo has the newst amarok
[03:22] <Grev> durt: i'm having no luck finding the nvidia.o module just nv.o  nvidia-glx is installed
[03:22] <mr_roboto> glick: here is a good online book about CVS. I recommend you have a look    http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html
[03:22] <Chinaman> and how would i compile in terminal?
[03:22] <Plebeuz> joetheodd, use Mplayer to play dvd
[03:23] <crimsun> epp, you might try asking in #kubuntu
[03:23] <joetheodd> Chinaman: javac <file>
[03:23] <durt> grev: so you cant: "sudo modprobe nvidia"?
[03:23] <glick> mr_roboto, oh yeh i was looking through that, thanks
[03:23] <epp> Chinaman, why java anyways?
[03:23] <mr_roboto> glick: they have a FAQ part of that book and one question is "CVS keeps changing file permissions; why does it do that?"  read that :)
[03:23] <Chinaman> because i need it for class
[03:23] <epp> Chinaman, same here!
[03:24] <crimsun> Chinaman, just download Eclipse from its Web site
[03:24] <Grev> FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[03:24] <mr_roboto> glick: oh! nearly forgot!  you probably turned "watch on" so that you have to use "cvs edit"
[03:24] <mkyb14> i don't understand taht winmac_fstab file
[03:24] <mkyb14> it's in perl or someting
[03:24] <mkyb14> and no directions
[03:24] <glick> cvs edit?
[03:24] <epp> Grev: on my other comp i have found that u need to download the drivers from nvidia .com
[03:24] <mr_roboto> glick: is that so?    try just doing "cvs edit <myfile>" on the read-only file in your working copy. should make it writeable
[03:25] <Plebeuz> skype for linux rox
[03:25] <heatxsink> is there any way of making the little icon of that guy with a beard change to my login photo when I come back from the screensaver?
[03:25] <Grev> epp: I have that changes before the final
[03:25] <mr_roboto> glick: it marks the file on the server as being edited by you so that other users can run "cvs editors <file>" and see who is editing it (that's also recursive if you just give a directory name)
[03:25] <durt> grev: try "sudo insmod nvida.ko"
[03:25] <epp> Grev:hu?
[03:25] <glick> hmm
[03:25] <mr_roboto> glick: and it also makes the file writeable by you
[03:26] <glick> yea that wold bother me seeing a file change as im editing it
[03:26] <Carwash> when I change the repository of hoary hedgehog, it says 'you need to reload the package list from the servers for your changes to take effect' but the problem is the linux box isn't connected to the net. So is horay hedgehog repository still enable even without net connection?
[03:26] <Chinaman> omg wtf bbq thx epp
[03:26] <Chinaman> i'm such a n00bster
[03:26] <alec_> mmm
[03:26] <b0ef> my friend just downloaded the ubuntu live cd and he has troubles when issuing the su command; he has no password.
[03:26] <Chinaman> but how would i get Jedit to work?
[03:26] <mkyb14> epp that file didn't help
[03:26] <mkyb14> just loads a perl file
[03:26] <durt> b0ef, whats wrong with the sudo command?
[03:26] <mr_roboto> glick: that behavior gets turned on by doing "cvs watch on"
[03:27] <grabbies200> hello, i want to add marillat repositories but apt-get tells me that they have no signature, how can i tell apt-get update to ignore signatures?
[03:27] <glick> oh
[03:27] <mr_roboto> glick: type "cvs --help watch" and you'll see what i'm talking about
[03:27] <Chinaman> epp: which IDE do you use?
[03:27] <durt> chinaman, scite is easy and simple
[03:27] <mr_roboto> glick: just try doing "cvs edit <file>" and see if it becomes writeable. if so, you're using that
[03:28] <epp> Chinaman, IDE?
[03:28] <mr_roboto> glick: and "cvs unedit <file>" tells server you're no longer editing (also reverts changes and makes it read-only again)
[03:28] <b0ef> durt: it's troublesome having to write that all the time
[03:28] <glick> i see
[03:28] <glick> thanks mr_roboto
[03:28] <durt> b0ef: "sudo -s" then
[03:28] <mr_roboto> glick: i use CVS every day... i just kind of assumed you knew about edit :)
[03:29] <Chinaman> epp: integrated development environment
[03:29] <Chinaman> durt: lemme go see
[03:29] <epp> i edit on windows...
[03:29] <epp> i use jcreator
[03:30] <karmatoburn> ok how can i write to my font dir. ?
[03:31] <karmatoburn> this is kinda of important
[03:31] <joetheodd> Where can I get mplayer?
[03:31] <joetheodd> !tell joetheodd about mplayer
[03:31] <MadpilotPPC> karmatoburn, you mean to your /.font directory?
[03:31] <MadpilotPPC> !+fonts
[03:31] <ubotu> I heard fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[03:31] <karmatoburn> i guess
[03:32] <durt> joetheodd, vlc is good for dvds
[03:32] <MadpilotPPC> karmatoburn, see ubotu just above ^^^
[03:32] <karmatoburn> right right
[03:32] <Chinaman> durt: are there tabs in scite?
[03:32] <durt> yes chinaman
[03:32] <grabbies200> joetheodd: you can get mplayer from the marillate repositories
[03:32] <Chinaman> hmm
[03:32] <Chinaman> i don't see them
[03:33] <durt> chinaman, you have to edit the use options file
[03:33] <nibbler00> if any one here is using a shared printer on an xp pro box from ubuntu can I please see a dump of your /etc/cups/printers.conf
[03:33] <Chinaman> um...is it supposed to be empty?
[03:34] <Chinaman> durt: how do i use tabs?
[03:35] <KiwiKibi> is launchpad.net kosher?
[03:35] <KiwiKibi> "Security Error: you tried to connect to shipit.ubuntu.com.  However, the certificate belongs to launchpad.net.  It is possible though unlikely that someone may be trying to intercept your communication."  . . . what gives?
[03:35] <durt> chinaman let me see...
[03:36] <MadpilotPPC> KiwiKibi, it's another part of the Ubuntu/Canonical system - you've probably already noticed that some of the certificates are messed up elsewhere too...
[03:36] <KiwiKibi> no, i haven't noticed that
[03:37] <durt> chinaman, add "tabbar.visible=1" to the user options file and save and restart scite
[03:37] <DavidLeeRoth> i am buying a new CPU.  I wanna know what is better: An amd 3700+ with 1MB L2 cache or an AMD 3800+ with 512 L2 cache?
[03:37] <durt> there are lots of different ways to configure it so check out the documentation
[03:38] <bluefoxicy> DavidLeeRoth:  what cores?
[03:39] <b0ef> durt: mk, that works
[03:39] <Chinaman> durt: it's not working
[03:39] <durt> chinaman, you arent including the quotes are you?
[03:39] <Chinaman> i didn't include quotes
[03:40] <Plebeuz> my mic is working perfectly
[03:42] <Chinaman> durt?
[03:42] <durt> chinaman: add "buffers=10" too
[03:42] <Chinaman> before or after?
[03:42] <durt> doesnt matter i dont think
[03:43] <Chinaman> durt: i thank you greatly
[03:43] <durt> does it work?
[03:43] <Chinaman> YEP
[03:43] <Chinaman> crimsun and durt: you guys pwn
[03:44] <Plebeuz> hey i wank to link /root/Desktop/skype-1.2/skype to i just write sype and execute skype, where i have to put the link?
[03:44] <charlie> HI
[03:44] <blagh> could someone please help me set up my wireless network card?  ubuntu doesn't seem to see it
[03:44] <charlie> everyone
[03:44] <Plebeuz> i tried to put on /bin and /usr/bin
[03:44] <reggie> sghd
[03:44] <reggie> dh
[03:44] <reggie> sdhhe
[03:44] <reggie> ht4
[03:44] <reggie> s
[03:44] <reggie> r
[03:44] <reggie> re
[03:44] <reggie> er
[03:44] <reggie> e
[03:44] <reggie> r
[03:44] <reggie> rry
[03:45] <reggie> ery
[03:45] <reggie> y
[03:45] <reggie> yrey
[03:45] <charlie> I want to have a gui for my linux server
[03:45] <reggie> r
[03:45] <reggie> y
[03:45] <reggie> y
[03:45] <reggie> y
[03:45] <reggie> r
[03:45] <MadpilotPPC> !ops
[03:45] <reggie> yer
[03:45] <ubotu> ops is, like, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[03:45] <reggie> y
[03:45] <reggie> y
[03:45] <reggie> ry
[03:45] <reggie> ry
[03:45] <durt> blagh, you might need to use ndiswrapper
[03:45] <mirak> is there lvm support in the initrd of ubuntu ?
[03:46] <blagh> is that already loaded, or do i need to install it?
[03:46] <Plebeuz> alguem ae do Brasil?
[03:46] <durt> blagh: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[03:47] <grabbies200> hello, i want to add marillat repositories but apt-get tells me that they have no signature, how can i tell apt-get update to ignore signatures?
[03:47] <iiiears> charlie - check out the how to for ubuntu it is amazing with a computer and an ubuntu cd you can setup a very sophisticated server  step by step how to http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2005-09-26-008-26-OS-HL-SV
[03:48] <tristanmike> grabbies200, why do you want the marillat repos?
[03:48] <tristanmike> grabbies200, it's not recommended to use them
[03:49] <grabbies200> because id like to get the codecs and install mplayer without compile from source
[03:50] <tristanmike> grabbies200, http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ here is the w32codec files, and a simple "sudo dpkg -i <name>" will install it for you
[03:50] <DavidLeeRoth> i am buying a new CPU.  I wanna know what is better: An amd 3700+ with 1MB L2 cache or an AMD 3800+ with 512 L2 cache?
[03:50] <grabbies200> is it also fr 64bit
[03:50] <Kyral> Which one overclocks better
[03:51] <DavidLeeRoth> they are both awesome
[03:51] <Plebeuz> 1Mb cache is better
[03:51] <Kyral> the 1MB is better
[03:51] <grabbies200> i am actually looking libavcodec
[03:51] <Plebeuz> 1Mb cache very very better
[03:51] <DavidLeeRoth> ok!
[03:51] <Kyral> overclock like hell!
[03:51] <DavidLeeRoth> thank you all
[03:51] <DavidLeeRoth> saved me 50 bucks!
[03:52] <Plebeuz> hehehe
[03:52] <Plebeuz> cool
[03:52] <Kyral> a virtuous endeavor indeed!
[03:52] <Plebeuz> indeed heheheh
[03:52] <tristanmike> grabbies200, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[03:53] <epp> whats a mp3 player thats like itunes besides amarok
[03:53] <iiiears> lol - linux and itunes? really?
[03:53] <grabbies200> tristanmike: thanks i go folow the post
[03:53] <epp> well the layout...
[03:54] <tristanmike> grabbies200, np
[03:54] <durt> rhythmbox
[03:54] <Plebeuz> epp xmms
[03:54] <durt> even though xmms is the best
[03:54] <Kyral> Beep!
[03:54] <epp> xmms looks like winamp not itunes
[03:54] <epp> you cant have a library in xmms
[03:54] <Kyral> Tis called a playlist my friend!
[03:54] <iiiears> juk is a nice library tool
[03:55] <epp> but it doesnt sort it by artist/album
[03:55] <crispynix> epp: what's wrong with amarok?
[03:55] <linuxbomb> does anyone know of a mplayerplug-in package with the controls compiled in and does anyone else have problems with mplayerplug-in crashing when hitting the back arrow
[03:55] <epp> my amorok ownt play audio...
[03:55] <crispynix> epp: rhythmbox sorts by artist/album, I believe -- but it's not like itunes
[03:55] <crispynix> epp: try a different engine?
[03:55] <epp> yep
[03:55] <epp> for 3 hours i tried
[03:55] <epp> but whatever
[03:55] <epp> rythm sounds fine
[03:56] <crispynix> epp: you tried gstreamer, arts, and xine and none of them worked? o_O
[03:56] <epp> yep
[03:56] <crispynix> weird
[03:56] <MadpilotPPC> epp, what file format are you trying to play?
[03:56] <epp> mp3
[03:57] <MadpilotPPC> epp, do you have the mp3 codecs installed?
[03:57] <MadpilotPPC> !+mp3
[03:57] <ubotu> well, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[03:57] <epp> yep audio plays on xmms
[03:57] <iiiears> does the bitorrent app included with ubuntu work to keep sharing files after you have a comepleted download?
[03:58] <epp> its a sucky ass client...
[03:58] <iiiears> mp123 or ffmpeg are just two of a dozen available codecs
[03:59] <durt> xmms is not "sucky ass"
[03:59] <iiiears> I was hoping to host a couple of files  java  and w32codecs
[04:00] <epp> durt, no im talking about the ubuntu bittorrent client...
[04:01] <tritium> epp, try nicer descriptive language, please
[04:01] <Confuzzled> Hey all
[04:01] <iiiears> epp - it says "Activity Finished" on the comepleted downloads. - has it stopped sharing?
[04:01] <yannick> y'a quelqu'un poru m'aider ?
[04:02] <MadpilotPPC> !fr
[04:02] <ubotu> methinks fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[04:02] <durt> epp: oops :|
[04:02] <epp> hehe
[04:03] <tristanmike> MadpilotPPC, that doesn't look like french
[04:03] <TokenBad> is there a newsreader for ubuntu that supports .nzb files?
[04:04] <iiiears> you have to admire the courage to try another OS if english isn't your first language. It has to be challenging.
[04:04] <crispynix> TokenBad: apt-cache search nzb
[04:04] <SteveMyers> I see that as a bad joke
[04:05] <TokenBad> crispynix, it didn't show a result
[04:05] <iiiears> NZBGet ???
[04:05] <SteveMyers> TokenBad, needing assistance?
[04:05] <TokenBad> is there a newsreader for ubuntu that supports .nzb files?
[04:05] <benh> some ubuntu X.org person around ?
[04:06] <SteveMyers> let me check
[04:06] <iiiears> http://linux.iq.usp.br/debian/pool/main/n/nzb/
[04:06] <crispynix> TokenBad: apparently not, but there are other apps which can handle .nzb files.  In breezy there are four results, none of them newsreaders tho.
[04:06] <tritium> benh, just ask your question.  Hopefully someone can help
[04:07] <iiiears> didn't know that newsgroups were still around. - ancient - lol
[04:07] <crispynix> Usenet is still around, but it's mostly used for pr0n and spam -.-
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> and warez
[04:08] <MadpilotPPC> There are still real non-warez, non-pr0n groups on Usenet, actually
[04:08] <iiiears> it was always had wares got my first copy of DOS from a newsgroup. but it also had some really good technology news then.
[04:08] <benh> well
[04:09] <benh> I wonder if they hacked X to add the iMac G5 modeline in the default list
[04:09] <benh> (1440x900)
[04:09] <benh> it's not in X.org CVS upstream, I have to add an explicit modeline
[04:09] <DaBlue> i think microsoft uses usenet to help devs communicate
[04:09] <tritium> benh, you have breezy installed on an iMac G5?
[04:09] <benh> but debian's 6.8.2 seems to find it (and that panel doesn't do DDC)
[04:09] <SteveMyers> TokenBad: try Pan
[04:10] <durt> benh, wait - do you already have the modeline?
[04:10] <benh> tritium: hoary actualy :) I'm about to upgrade it to breezy, but in the meantime, I'm tracking down a bug with nvidiafb which makes it break on the iMac
[04:10] <benh> durt: yes, I know what the modeline is, that isn't a problem
[04:10] <tritium> benh, wow, I could not get hoary to install on my iMac (kernel panic issues)
[04:10] <SteveMyers> TokenBad: Here are some screenshits and updated information about Pan: http://pan.rebelbase.com/screenshots/
[04:10] <benh> durt: I just wonder what makes hoary X be happy and not CVS
[04:10] <SteveMyers> err
[04:10] <SteveMyers> screenshot
[04:11] <benh> tritium: I used a home built 64 bits kernel and stucked ubuntu initrd with it :)
[04:11] <benh> tritium: I haven't tried breezy prerelease CD yet
[04:11] <benh> tritium: I just finished thermal control for the machine so it's fairly useable now :)
[04:11] <tritium> benh, oh, okay.  Good for you, dude :)
[04:12] <benh> what happens is that X " nv" drivers finds from the registers that the panel is 1440x900
[04:12] <benh> and then goes try to find a modeline for that in X own default table
[04:12] <benh> it can with hoary and can't with X.org CVS
[04:12] <benh> so I was wondering if ubuntu or maybe debian was hacking the built-in modeline table
[04:12] <iiiears> benh - Stop it you are scaring me. - lol - been eyeing 64 bit machines but spending hours/days/weeks configuring it is a huge fear.
[04:12] <benh> since there is no explicit modeline in my xorg.conf
[04:12] <tritium> Not sure, benh.  daniels would konw
[04:13] <tritium> know
[04:13] <benh> (adding one makes CVS work of course, but that's impractical, auto-detect is much better)
[04:13] <benh> yah, but I can't find him lately (daniels)
[04:13] <benh> iiiears: just using a proper kernel and ubuntu installer "just worked"
[04:13] <planetcall> goodmorning
[04:14] <benh> iiiears: breezy should even ship with a 64 bits kernel for G5s afaik, though I haven't tried it on the imac
[04:14] <tritium> good evening
[04:14] <SteveMyers> G'Evening
[04:14] <iiiears> benh - Sounds hopeful :)
[04:14] <benh> anyway, buying one of the current G5s is pointless, Apple should upgrade them significantly real soon
[04:14] <planetcall> its morning here :P
[04:14] <SteveMyers> hehe
[04:14] <benh> for the last time at least before they go x86
[04:14] <TokenBad> SteveKerr, seems that pan don't support nzb....or at least find no mention of it on the website
[04:14] <planetcall> i have a question about Dualboot
[04:14] <Pablo_C> o.O
[04:14] <planetcall> ubuntu says Error14   .......... Cylinder value exceeds ........... something in bios
[04:15] <TokenBad> oops
[04:15] <mirak> how to install grub on a secondary hard drive ?
[04:15] <planetcall> When i try to boot in Windows2003
[04:15] <TokenBad> SteveMyers, seems that pan don't support nzb....or at least find no mention of it on the website
[04:15] <planetcall> any help ?
[04:15] <SteveMyers> No worries, give me a moment
[04:15] <tritium> planetcall, perhaps you need to enable LBA in your bios
[04:16] <planetcall> where is that ? I got original Intel865GVHZ
[04:16] <SteveMyers> TokenBad: http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Internet/News/
[04:17] <bob2> benh: does sound work on the current crop of g5 imacs?
[04:17] <benh> bob2: nope
[04:17] <benh> bob2: on my todolist
[04:17] <zonic> hola
[04:17] <benh> bob2: it's a different codec chip
[04:17] <bob2> benh: ah
[04:17] <Pablo_C> someone gave me a link earlier when I couldnt find a the module-assistant.... it was a bunch of repositories to add..... I am trying to get the madwifi drivers working
[04:17] <benh> bob2: I have the specs tho
[04:17] <bob2> benh: oh, yay apple
[04:17] <zonic> algien habla spaol
[04:17] <mirak> how to install grub on a secondary hard drive ?
[04:17] <Pablo_C> can I please have a link to the repositories to add
[04:17] <benh> bob2: well, they change the sound hw in +/- subtle ways on pretty much every motherboard revision
[04:17] <tritium> zonic, #ubuntu-es
[04:17] <bob2> Pablo_C: ubuntu includes the madwifi drivers, prebuilt
[04:18] <benh> bob2: which is why sound is one of the weak points of linux on mac, keep breaking
[04:18] <Pablo_C> hmm
[04:18] <zonic> thanks
[04:18] <mirak> I want to boot next time on my secondatry hard drive that I will put primary. how to do that ?
[04:18] <bob2> benh: ahhh
[04:18] <benh> bob2: I need to rewrite the driver in a more "modular" way so we can more easily add codec drivers
[04:18] <Pablo_C> the card as soon as I enable it... it disables... I am using kubuntu
[04:18] <bob2> benh: does OS X also need continual updates then?
[04:18] <benh> bob2: and so it can deal with multiple codecs (digital + analog on the same bus)
[04:18] <benh> bob2: didn't have time yet... I could use help from more hackers tho =P
[04:19] <benh> bob2: yes, apple ships modified OS X with pretty much every new model
[04:19] <benh> bob2: though they include the updates with the next release
[04:19] <benh> bob2: same used to be with OS 9... if a machine shipped with, let's say, 9.1, it wouldn't necessarily work (or not everything would work) with a stock 9.1
[04:19] <ksmurf> is there a better way than samba to setup a home network?
[04:19] <benh> bob2: but only with the "modified" 9.1 that comes with it ... However, 9.1.1 or whatever >9.1 would work
[04:19] <bob2> benh: hah, hard to test drivers for hardware I don't have ;)
[04:19] <ksmurf> samba is not cooperating
[04:20] <bob2> benh: ahhh, I see
[04:20] <bob2> ksmurf: samba isn't about home networks, it's about sharing files with windows machines
[04:20] <benh> bob2: heh
[04:20] <benh> bob2: what is needed is first some background work on the driver
[04:21] <bob2> benh: can you pretend g5 imac work is ibm work by claiming it's nearly a power4? ;)
[04:21] <ksmurf> bob 2 .... i have 4 machines here .... all are linux.  what should I use to transfer files between them?
[04:21] <benh> bob2: defining a simple infrastructure to split the platform core (that puts all the bits & pieces together for a given machine), the codec modules, the bus driver & DMA engine, ...
[04:21] <benh> bob2: pretty much defining structs and moving existing code in new structure
[04:21] <bob2> ksmurf: NFS is another option, assuming yo utrust the network
[04:21] <benh> bob2: that can be done with any Apple HW
[04:21] <benh> bob2: from then, writing the codec modules for the other machines and the platform bits is easy
[04:21] <ksmurf> I trust the network.  they are all at home here
[04:22] <benh> bob2: there are some pitfalls though due to the way apple crapped out some stuff, like the GPIO control, but it's not _too_ bad
[04:22] <benh> bob2: heh, I already do a lot of work on these on IBM time :)
[04:22] <mirak> I have a problem installing GRUB
[04:22] <benh> bob2: it's more a matter of not impairing more urgent IBM work which I do have right now, though the thermal control was done partly here
[04:22] <mirak> $ grub-install seems to just stall
[04:22] <bob2> ksmurf: install nfs-kernel-server wherever you want to share files from, then add lines to /etc/exports to define what to share
[04:23] <benh> bob2: after all, the iMac G5 I use is IBM's :)
[04:23] <bob2> benh: hah, cool
[04:23] <bob2> mirak: why are you installing it manually?
[04:23] <bob2> benh: are sound devices in modern apples on the pci bus?
[04:23] <mirak> bob2: because I am setting up a second hard drive with linux
[04:23] <bushk> [A] nak1n, nice name.  r0fl.
[04:24] <benh> bob2: not  exactly
[04:24] <bob2> mirak: doesn't grub-install want an argument? isn't it easier to edit menu.lst and use update-grub?
[04:24] <benh> bob2: apple has a big IO chip on the PCI bus (they always had) that contains all sorts of stuffs
[04:24] <benh> bob2: some of these appear as individual PCI devices though (like the USB controllers), but a bunch of stuff is all in the same "combo" PCI device
[04:24] <benh> bob2: you can "see" the details abotu what's in there from the OF device-tree though
[04:25] <carrarro> Ubuntu newb here, can't get my c compiler at the terminal to locate the < stdio.h > file. Help, please.
[04:25] <benh> bob2: it contains, among others, a pair of i2s bus controllers (a sound bus, in a way similar to ac97)
[04:25] <benh> bob2: and i2c controller
[04:25] <mirak> bob2: update-brug will not write into the MBR
[04:25] <TiMiDo> !info emacs
[04:25] <benh> bob2: that's how codec chips are typically attached
[04:25] <TiMiDo> !info xemacs
[04:25] <TiMiDo> !info xemac
[04:25] <TiMiDo> bla
[04:26] <bob2> carrarro: install build-essential
[04:26] <bob2> mirak: even after you edit the config file correctly?
[04:26] <bob2> benh: ahhhh
[04:26] <tritium> benh, I'd like to know how things go for you when you try breezy on your iMac, whenever that may be
[04:26] <carrarro> I think it's already istalled, but I'll take a look and come back.
[04:26] <ksmurf> bob 2 K done...... how do I start it
[04:27] <Jalba> :shifty:
[04:27] <Jalba> Bah.. what am i doing here :( i dont have ubuntu
[04:27] <bob2> ksmurf: sudo invoke-rc.d nfs-kernel-server restart
[04:27] <liquidten2> Me neither... <_<
[04:27] <mirak> bob2: yes it stalls
[04:27] <bob2> mirak: nothing interesting in "dmesg"
[04:28] <sambagirl> does ubuntu have all this?
[04:28] <sambagirl> gcc >= 2.95
[04:28] <sambagirl>        autoconf >= 2.52
[04:28] <sambagirl>        automake >= 1.4
[04:28] <sambagirl>        libtool >= 1.4.2
[04:28] <sambagirl>        gettext >= 0.11.5
[04:28] <sambagirl>        pkgconfig >= 0.8.0
[04:28] <tritium> sambagirl, please don't paste!
[04:28] <durt> apt-get that stuff sambagirl
[04:28] <sambagirl> ok
[04:28] <benh> tritium: i'll try to remember popping up here, I could try now but I left the CD at home =P
[04:28] <sambagirl> ahh
[04:28] <CarlFK> sambagirl - hold on!
[04:28] <benh> tritium: anyway, I just dist-upgraded hoary to breezy and so far the machine is still alive
[04:29] <tritium> benh, cool, I'll keep an eye out for you :)
[04:29] <mirak> bob2:  Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
[04:29] <sambagirl> i am anting to install jamin
[04:29] <CarlFK> sambagirl - auto stuff needs the right versions, not just the most current (they aren't too backwards compatable)
[04:29] <mirak> bob2: I don't have a floppy
[04:29] <sambagirl> ahh
[04:29] <sambagirl> ok
[04:29] <sambagirl> thanks
[04:29] <CarlFK> sambagirl - keep holding...
[04:29] <sambagirl> anyone know of gnumpg3 inet radio streaming software?
[04:29] <sambagirl> haha
[04:29] <MadpilotPPC> sambagirl, there's a version of jamin in Ubuntu's repositories, you can just install it w/ Synaptic...
[04:29] <sambagirl> WOW
[04:30] <MadpilotPPC> !info jamin
[04:30] <ubotu> jamin: (Audio mastering from a mixed down multitrack source with JACK), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9.0-6 (hoary), Packaged size: 552 kB, Installed size: 1100 kB
[04:30] <CarlFK> search around on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to figure out what package/version you need.. or do what MadpilotPPC says
[04:30] <sambagirl> where are the sapositories?
[04:30] <atripathi> I found LBA is turned on
[04:30] <MadpilotPPC> !repos
[04:30] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:31] <tritium> sambagirl, nice attempt at a joke
[04:31] <CarlFK> sambagirl I have run icecast - it works.  not sure what gnumpg3 is
[04:31] <sambagirl> haha
[04:31] <CarlFK> lol
[04:31] <sambagirl> what is your ip carlfx
[04:31] <sambagirl> ??
[04:31] <atripathi> when I try to boot in Windows ..... the cursor keeps blinking and sysem freezes
[04:31] <Jason-Bourne> where's the party at?
[04:31] <tritium> Purdue stadium
[04:31] <CarlFK> sambagirl - "have run" not "running" (i think...)
[04:32] <Jason-Bourne> purdue stadium got it!
[04:32] <CarlFK> hmm, might be up... no clue really
[04:32] <atripathi> ??
[04:32] <sambagirl> okie doke
[04:32] <CarlFK> sambagirl - if you hold some more, I'll get it up
[04:32] <sambagirl> cool
[04:32] <sambagirl> i'll wait
[04:32] <Seabook> I just realized... Why did Ubuntu's version number start at 4.10??
[04:32] <durt> you'll "get it up" heh
[04:33] <atripathi> any help over dualbooting ?
[04:33] <CarlFK> yeah yeah...
[04:33] <tritium> Seabook, October, 2004
[04:33] <ksmurf> 4th year 10th month
[04:33] <MadpilotPPC> Seabook, year and month of release
[04:33] <Seabook> ah
[04:33] <Seabook> makes sense then.
[04:33] <sambagirl> what is seabrook?
[04:34] <Seabook> sambagirl: there's no 'r' in my nick. :)
[04:34] <sambagirl> AHHH
[04:34] <ksmurf> do I need an nfs client to connect to an nfs network?
[04:34] <sambagirl> i thought was ubuntu update
[04:34] <atripathi> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[04:34] <atripathi> # on /dev/hdb1
[04:34] <atripathi> title           Windows NT/2000/XP (loader)
[04:34] <atripathi> root            (hd1,0)
[04:34] <atripathi> savedefault
[04:34] <atripathi> makeactive
[04:34] <atripathi> chainloader     +1
[04:34] <b0ef> my friend just booted up the live cd and he cannot mount ntfs read/write mode; is there a restriction in ubunto for this?
[04:34] <b0ef> s/ubunto/ubuntu/
[04:34] <CarlFK> b0ef - native linux ntfs isn't readwrite cuz write is iffy
[04:35] <atripathi> it is no working.. The cursor keeps blinking
[04:35] <Seabook> Oh, btw, has anybody successfully installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a Toshiba Satellite A70?
[04:35] <drklogic_> ksmurf, you need nfs-common installed then you can just mount the nfs share as if it were local
[04:35] <atripathi> drk   do u have any idea?
[04:35] <CarlFK> b0ef, look around for Captive NTFS - don'tthink it is on the livecd
[04:35] <ksmurf> drklogic I don't follow?
[04:35] <ksmurf> .../mount ......... ?
[04:36] <b0ef> CarlFK: I'm sure I've seen ntfs read/write mode listed as stable somewhere?
[04:36] <drklogic_> ksmurf, what is it you're trying to do? browse files over nfs?
[04:36] <durt> seabook, i have breezy on a satellite 5105-s501 - i dont knoe how similar they are
[04:36] <ksmurf> drk .... yes
[04:36] <drklogic_> ksmurf, apt-get install nfs-common
[04:36] <TokenBad> ubuntu 5.10 is going to be released when again?
[04:36] <tristanmike> TokenBad, Oct 13
[04:36] <ksmurf> I have it
[04:37] <atripathi> what is the command to see the disk structure ?
[04:37] <drklogic_> ksmurf, then "mount host:/directory"
[04:37] <sambagirl> carl your ready, no?
[04:37] <sambagirl> who asked me to wait?
[04:37] <tritium> his ready?
[04:37] <CarlFK> sambagirl - no, the feed box was off, and then I had unplugged the network cable, but I want this all up, so imalmost there...
[04:38] <sambagirl> haha ok you keep cranking up Model T while i turn key on ferrari :D
[04:38] <_jason> hi guys, how can I get sound working in flash for firefox
[04:38] <Seabook> durt: probably not very similar, simply by the fact that the numbering series is not even the same.
[04:38] <atripathi> Does anybody know if Ubuntu duals with Windows2003 ???
[04:38] <tritium> yes, atripathi
[04:39] <sambagirl> hehe 2003, is 2005 :)
[04:39] <tritium> !tell atripathi about dualboot
[04:39] <dikadika> what do people use around here for playing DVD's? i'm having some problems with totem
[04:40] <ksmurf> drklogic..... the thing won't mount.... do I have to add it to fstab?
[04:40] <bob2> dikadika: mplayer or xine
[04:40] <durt> or vlc
[04:40] <_jason> no one can help me to get sound working flash?
[04:41] <kurtbec> question from a ubuntu newbie...  When breezy final comes out what is the procedure to go from hoary to breezy?
[04:41] <dikadika> k thanks
[04:41] <durt> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:41] <kurtbec> durt: do you have to manually update the sources.list?
[04:42] <sambagirl> how acn you identify breezy has updated your system/ is there breezy splash screen or something?
[04:42] <durt> kurtbec oh yeah - yes pretty much just change all the "hoary"s to "breezy"s
[04:42] <none_-> sambagirl, the first X screen is different
[04:42] <bob2> sambagirl: er, presumably you saw what the upgrade did?
[04:42] <bob2> kurtbec: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:43] <kurtbec> bob2: cool I will check that out
[04:43] <bob2> kurtbec: yes, you of course have to change it, doing major upgrades of people's machines would be a terrible idea
[04:43] <sambagirl> i dont see breezy, sneezy, weezy, grumpy, lumpy, balmy or slurpy. but i did see snow white :D
[04:43] <carrarro> bob2: it seems like it was a syntax error I was making. But thanks for the help.
[04:43] <sambagirl> no seriously i saw no difference.
[04:43] <kurtbec> thats what I figured but I just installed hoary on Friday and this is my first time with debian.  Been using linux for years just never debian.
[04:44] <bob2> kurtbec: ubuntu is not debian
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> kurtbec, so you are using a debian fork
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> way forked
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> but very good
[04:45] <cav> what exactly is a repository?
[04:45] <MadpilotPPC> cav, a giant collection of software and stuff, basically...
[04:45] <cav> Does every distro have one?
[04:46] <bob2> cav: no
[04:46] <kurtbec> nomasteryoda: I mispoke.  I'm using ubuntu.  Just being doing a lot of reading in the debian documentation lately so i have debian in my head.
[04:46] <bob2> cav: in ubuntu, a repository is a large set of .debs with some index files that apt can use
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:46] <Plebeuz> cav is a server who have collections of packages for ur sistem(i meaning repository of servers for apt-get programs like)
[04:47] <cav> So the package manager uses the repositories to get all the software?
[04:47] <bob2> yes
[04:47] <Plebeuz> yes
[04:47] <kurtbec> anyone know where this a newer version of gaim for hoary?
[04:48] <cav> hmm
[04:48] <Plebeuz> gaim suc amsn rulez
[04:48] <kurtbec> not if you need meanwhile support.
[04:48] <Bacala> I'm a newbie, could someone help me with an install? I have a live/install dvd that won't boot properly. It tries to load but my machine keeps rebooting. any ideas?
[04:49] <Plebeuz> Bacala, some linux have a kernel panic and reboot the machine whith some kinds of hardware like scsi hardware
[04:49] <kurtbec> amsn is alright if you use amsn, but its just too narrow compared to gaim that supports just about every protocol out there.
[04:49] <Plebeuz> amsn is more clean
[04:50] <bob2> Bacala: are you sure the CD is fine?
[04:50] <Plebeuz> amsn is for msn
[04:50] <kurtbec> clean is great but doesn't do me much good if it doesn't do anything besides msn.
[04:50] <Bacala> Plebeuz it looks to me like a hardware issue. yes
[04:50] <Plebeuz> yeah or the dvd is damaged
[04:50] <Plebeuz> Bacala, then u must set the properly modbrope
[04:50] <Bacala> dvd works in my kids machine
[04:50] <Plebeuz> Bacala, when boot
[04:51] <kurtbec> kind of like ogg is a superior format but finding hardware that supports it makes it almost not worth it.
[04:51] <Bacala> Plebeuz modbrope???
[04:52] <Bacala> mobo...
[04:52] <Plebeuz> Bacala, try to find in the messages on boot, what is wrong. then search at google the modprobe for the hardware, the u must boot like something linux modprobe VIA86x
[04:53] <Plebeuz> u see the boot screen? (thet who tells u to press enter for linux etc..)
[04:53] <Bacala> yes
[04:53] <Bacala> I hit enter..
[04:54] <Bacala> then I see loading moduel
[04:54] <Plebeuz> the he starts to initializing the kernel, u see a kernel panic and reboot?
[04:54] <Plebeuz> ok
[04:54] <Plebeuz> then?
[04:54] <Bacala> no
[04:54] <Bacala> just reboots
[04:54] <Plebeuz> try write linux text
[04:55] <Plebeuz> then enter
[04:55] <Bacala> back to splash screen
[04:55] <sambagirl> still waiting :)
[04:55] <Bacala> type linux text at prompt?
[04:55] <Plebeuz> yes
[04:55] <CarlFK> sambagirl - its up! http://audio.foxshare.net:8000
[04:55] <Bacala> ok
[04:55] <Bacala> thanks
[04:56] <bob2> Bacala: have you checked the CD yet?
[04:56] <Bacala> yes
[04:56] <dabar> Is doing IRC as your sudoer as dangerous as running as root, if you identify with your sudoer's password?
[04:56] <bob2> Bacala: the CD verified yourself?
[04:56] <none_-> dabar, same thing
[04:56] <bob2> dabar: it's silly and the same, yes
[04:56] <mchugh24> Hey , I used synaptc to upate firefox to 1.0.7 and I get error: Error: No running window found
[04:56] <mchugh24> auto selected locale: en-US
[04:56] <Bacala> it works in another machine
[04:56] <mchugh24> any ideas what to do? Thanks
[04:56] <dabar> how about without the identify part?
[04:56] <bob2> Bacala: that's not the same thing
[04:56] <Bacala> and I checked with md5
[04:56] <glick> excuse me how do i change my default group when i login?
[04:57] <bob2> Bacala: of the .iso file or the cd itself?
[04:57] <none_-> dabar, sudo == root
[04:57] <bob2> glick: why?
[04:57] <Bacala> .iso
[04:57] <none_-> sudo runs the command as superuser
[04:57] <bob2> Bacala: then you need to check the cd itself
[04:57] <dabar> I dont mean running sudo irssi.
[04:57] <glick> bob2, i need to be a default member of another group so cvs works properly
[04:57] <bob2> Bacala: boot into expert mode and choose "verify cd" or whatever it is
[04:57] <Bacala> I didn't know I could do that
[04:58] <bob2> glick: no, someone needs to make the cvs repository sticky
[04:58] <dabar> just running as the sudoer user.
[04:58] <CarlFK> hmm, dead air... I suck as a dj...
[04:58] <glick> bob2, how do you do that?
[04:58] <none_-> dabar, it shouldn't make a difference
[04:58] <CarlFK> i need to get djbot working...
[04:58] <mike1> lo
[04:58] <dabar> Thank you.
[04:58] <Plebeuz> glick do thet
[04:58] <Bacala> k thanks
[04:58] <Plebeuz> glick vi passwd
[04:58] <Plebeuz> glick find ur user
[04:59] <mike1> Problem: wireless network
[04:59] <mchugh24> Hey , I used synaptc to upate firefox to 1.0.7 and I get error: Error: No running window found
[04:59] <none_-> mchugh24, use apt-get
[04:59] <sambagirl> what should i use CARLfX music player?'
[04:59] <glick> thanks Plebeuz
[04:59] <none_-> w
[04:59] <glick> how do i make the cvs repos sticky?
[04:59] <none_-> sambagirl, ??
[04:59] <Plebeuz> glick then u will see user:x:number:number:anithinmg
[04:59] <mchugh24> I thouth synaptic was a front end to apt get?
[05:00] <mike1> DWL-520 rev e  my system sees card, I give it essid --- no go?
[05:00] <Plebeuz> glick the second number is the number of group
[05:00] <none_-> mchugh24, it is but they are stilltwo different programs
[05:00] <Plebeuz> glick just set the properly number
[05:00] <glick> Plebeuz, thanks, yeah i remimber now
[05:00] <CarlFK> Segmentation fault!
[05:00] <mchugh24> ok I'll try it
[05:00] <sambagirl> segmentation fault?
[05:00] <sambagirl> ok
[05:00] <Plebeuz> glick in /etc/group u see the group number
[05:00] <CarlFK> its up again
[05:01] <Plebeuz> ok
[05:01] <CarlFK> now to find that IRC bot that lets you kick songs
[05:01] <none_-> kick songs?
[05:01] <Plebeuz> Hey people, are u tired to use sudo for config anything?
[05:01] <Trashcan> sudo -i
[05:01] <sambagirl> ok
[05:01] <Stricklin> I've got backups of my Thunderbird directory containing my mail and such from my Windows XP install that I just gave up on. Now I have Ubuntu and Thunderbird installed, and I'd like to transfer everything over, but I'm told I don't have the permissions to do that. I'm kinda a newbie to Linux. Would somebody give me a hand?
[05:02] <none_-> Plebeuz, sudo bash
[05:02] <KiwiKibi_> does ubuntu have SEL--Security Enhncd Linux?
[05:02] <CarlFK> none_- - i have an irc bot that has the ability to kick the current song
[05:02] <none_-> kick?
[05:02] <Trashcan> sudo -i = full root enviroonment
[05:02] <Trashcan> -o
[05:02] <mchugh24> pat-get gives: mozilla-firefox is already the newest version.
[05:02] <none_-> you mean send the file to someone else?
[05:03] <Aardvark> I'm pretty new to Linux, so I need to ask...is Ubuntu difficult to install?
[05:03] <Plebeuz> Hey just vi /etc/passwd then find ur user, then set the numbers user:x:1000:1000:/something , set 0 where u see numbers
[05:03] <CarlFK> none_- kinda, the song is being feed to my icecast server where others can dl the streem (normaly to listen to realtime)
[05:03] <none_-> Aardvark, it is easy enough
[05:03] <Plebeuz> then logoff and logon
[05:03] <Stricklin> Aardvark, I just did it and it was extremely painless.
[05:03] <Trashcan> plebeuz you're so stupid
[05:03] <Plebeuz> and u are administrator of the machine
[05:03] <kurtbec> Aardvark: its not bad at all.
[05:03] <none_-> CarlFK, ahhh
[05:04] <Aardvark> Nice...I tried installing Gentoo and it not only didn't work, but I also killed my Windows boot sector
[05:04] <ericz> i installed ubuntu from those free cd's they ship and i had to do almost nothing
[05:04] <none_-> gentoo is much more difficult
[05:04] <Aardvark> I didn't quite pull off the LILO thing correctly
[05:04] <mchugh24> apt-get gives: mozilla-firefox is already the newest version.
[05:04] <sambagirl> CARLFX dont i have rhythmbox
[05:04] <Aardvark> Yeah but my friend says it's supposed to be one of the best distros
[05:04] <kurtbec> Aardvark: Gentoo isn't hard just much more involved.
[05:04] <Aardvark> So I gave it a try
[05:04] <Aardvark> Yeah
[05:04] <none_-> it is one of the best. if not the best
[05:05] <durt> even though its slow
[05:05] <CarlFK> djbot is in the hose!  (#vfp house that is)
[05:05] <kurtbec> Aardvark: I really like Gentoo, but the compiling just finally got to me so I'm either going with kubuntu or Fedora we'll see what wins out
[05:05] <CarlFK> hose?
[05:05] <none_-> you mean the installation?
[05:06] <none_-> use distcc to compile in gentoo
[05:06] <kevogod_> If Fedora wins, I'd laugh.
[05:06] <Stricklin> Anybody?
[05:06] <flodine> breezy running like a champ
[05:06] <none_-> redhat sucks
[05:06] <kurtbec> distcc helps, but things still take forever unless you have very fast hardware.
[05:06] <none_-> has for a long time
[05:06] <kurtbec> none_-: that is one opinion.
[05:07] <none_-> kurtbec, i think you should be surprised how well it works
[05:07] <Toma-> offtopic chan plz..
[05:07] <none_-> should, would
[05:07] <Aardvark> The one very attractive thing about Gentoo is the emerge command...
[05:07] <sambagirl> CARLFX can i private message you?
[05:07] <CarlFK> sambagirl sure
[05:08] <Aardvark> It would rock if other distros picked it up
[05:08] <Toma-> if im mounting a drive for all users to read/write/exec, why doesnt 'auto defaults 0 0' work as the options in fstab?
[05:08] <none_-> Aardvark, you can easily install it on slackware
[05:08] <none_-> same with apt-get
[05:08] <CarlFK> sambagirl (and whoever else is listening) join #vfp to see the bot in action
[05:08] <Aardvark> Ah
[05:08] <none_-> or you could use linux from scratch
[05:08] <Aardvark> Heh
[05:08] <Aardvark> I'm a newbie so I only know a small amount
[05:09] <Aardvark> Like I know about RPM packs, but they aren't quite the same
[05:09] <kurtbec> none_-: i hope so.  I really do.  I've done rpm based distros since redhat 5.x and they are ok but I'm still looking for something that i really like.  Gentoo was very close, but the compiling finally got to me after over a yar.
[05:09] <dean> I was following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713 step#2 - 1. sudo apt-get install linux-686 if you haven't already.
[05:09] <dean> or -k7 or -686-smp or -386... whatever matches your kernel.[05:09] <none_-> well, apt-get is the best package manager
[05:09] <Aardvark> Cool, I should remember that
[05:10] <none_-> kurtbec, i recommend Linux From Scratch
[05:10] <none_-> the text explains everything you need
[05:10] <none_-> to know
[05:10] <kurtbec> none_-: definitely not LFS.  itsgreat but a management nightmare.
[05:11] <Aardvark> I was pretty saddened to find out that there are fewer free distros...Mandrake even sold out
[05:11] <Toma-> dean: the 386/686 part wont effect your nic
[05:11] <Trashcan> what's the development package to get?
[05:11] <Aardvark> So I'm glad there's Ubuntu
[05:11] <Trashcan> for breezy, that includes glibc etc.
[05:11] <none_-> kurtbec, agreed
[05:11] <glick> bob2, how do you make the cvs repos sticky?
[05:11] <dean> Toma - I'm  now getting an error when I reboot that says that an invalid module rt2500.ko  can not be loaded
[05:12] <Toma-> try getting rid of the .ko part
[05:12] <kurtbec> doing a dist-upgrade to breezy as we speak so we'll see how that goes :-)
[05:12] <bob2> glick: chmod g+s /whateva
[05:12] <dean> i'm pretty noob - how should I do that?
[05:13] <none_-> kurtbec, it's virtually stable at this point.. things should run smoothly
[05:13] <Toma-> dean: check to see if that "rt2500.ko" is in your /etc/modules
[05:13] <Toma-> if it is, get rid of the .ko and save
[05:13] <Toma-> bbl.
[05:13] <none_-> where's the rainbow shell?
[05:13] <kurtbec> none_-: I've hear mixed on breezy.  I've heard mostly good but a few that say that are quite a few bugs yet.  So  iguess it depeds on what you do.
[05:13] <dean> toma -thanks, but it's not in etc/modules
[05:14] <ivanoat1> can anyone recommend a PCMCIA wifi card that is known to work with ubuntu and supports WPA?
[05:14] <none_-> yeah, there are still bugs
[05:14] <malv> suppose I ssh into another computer, is there a way to run a gui application on that computers display?
[05:14] <none_-> most of them are not critical though
[05:15] <kurtbec> none_-: thats good
[05:15] <none_-> malv, you want to ssh to the X server or use VNC
[05:15] <dean> is there a log of the startup messages displayed before you can login to gnome?
[05:15] <malv> none_-: actually i figured i tout
[05:16] <none_-> cool
[05:16] <Toma-> ssh has x tunneling if its enabled
[05:16] <malv> just need to ssh, then do DISPLAY=:0 <gui>
[05:16] <malv> like my sister is using linux, and I like to control her pc from my room
[05:16] <bob2> charming
[05:17] <malv> well, i've been fiddling with samba, so I keep all the movies, tv episodes on my pc
[05:17] <Trashcan> lovely
[05:17] <none_-> is your sister hot?
[05:17] <iiiears> lol
[05:17] <malv> yea, she's super hot
[05:17] <Pablo_C> LOL!!
[05:17] <Trashcan> is Seveas here?
[05:17] <none_-> sweet
[05:17] <Trashcan> malv: you concern me
[05:17] <Trashcan> please, don't breed
[05:17] <Pablo_C> turn on her webcam server :P
[05:17] <malv> sometimes I hook her up with people I meet on Ubuntu chat
[05:17] <none_-> incest is universal
[05:18] <none_-> how old is your sister?
[05:18] <malv> dunno
[05:18] <bob2> none_-: malv enough
[05:18] <none_-> you don't have a sister, do you
[05:18] <malv> 16-18
[05:18] <bob2> none_-: malv as above
[05:18] <malv> probably 17, I suppose
[05:18] <malv> anywho, she can use ubuntu better than most
[05:19] <KiwiKibi_> I need to obtain KUbuntu in CD-ROMS: anyone have a URL where I can order it?
[05:19] <Pablo_C> malv you from birc or mc1?
[05:19] <net10> hello!
[05:19] <none_-> KiwiKibi_, www.kubuntu.org
[05:19] <malv> Pablo_C: dunno even know what you are asking
[05:19] <none_-> they are free
[05:19] <Pablo_C> ok great
[05:19] <Trashcan> !tell kiwikibi about kubuntu
[05:19] <Pablo_C> then you are not
[05:19] <bob2> I'm pretty sure kubuntu doesn't have shipit
[05:20] <none_-> really? suckage
[05:20] <justin_> ok how am i suppose to get sound working on ubuntu
[05:20] <justin_> it like does not work at all
[05:20] <crimsun> justin_: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[05:21] <none_-> KiwiKibi_, you could do the server install and then add kde
[05:21] <none_-> normal ubuntu
[05:21] <net10> can someone help me? i can't configure how to open the other ubuntu users in my network. i want to open their shared folder but i can't.
[05:21] <KiwiKibi_> Breezy == 5.__?
[05:21] <crimsun> 5.10
[05:21] <crimsun> [200] 5.October
[05:21] <odd-> hoary is 5.04
[05:21] <odd-> It came out this month?
[05:21] <KiwiKibi_> 'k
[05:21] <odd-> o_0
[05:21] <odd-> 5.10 came out this month?
[05:22] <crimsun> odd-: Breezy comes out in 12 days or thereabouts
[05:22] <Trashcan> 5.10 = breezy
[05:22] <none_-> not yet
[05:22] <odd-> oh fuck
[05:22] <odd-> 12 days?
[05:22] <justin_> ok..wait how am i suppose to like get sound working on ubuntu
[05:22] <malv> odd-: did you forget to prepare for your breezy launch party?
[05:22] <tritium> odd-, please watch the language
[05:22] <Trashcan> matt@ubuntuLaptop:~$ gcc
[05:22] <Trashcan>  bash: gcc: command not found
[05:22] <odd-> forgive me..
[05:22] <odd-> I don't run breezy..
[05:22] <none_-> Trashcan, apt-get install build-essential
[05:22] <net10> can someone give me an advice on how to open the shared folder in the other ubuntu users in my network? plleeeaaasssee...
[05:22] <odd-> I run hoary.
[05:22] <Trashcan> thank you, none
[05:22] <malv> now all the digg people are finding their way into this channel =(
[05:23] <tritium> justin_, listen to crimsun's advice
[05:23] <Trashcan> i asked what that was earlier
[05:23] <crimsun> justin_: open a Terminal and type the command I pasted above
[05:23] <none_-> that should do it
[05:23] <Trashcan> roger
[05:23] <none_-> :D
[05:23] <none_-> lol] 
[05:23] <odd-> heya none
[05:23] <Pablo_C> hmm
[05:23] <dean> can anyone help getting my rt2500 NIC working?
[05:23] <Trashcan> yay
[05:23] <malv> dean: yea, they have drivers online
[05:24] <net10> hi tritium, can you me an advice on how to open the shared folder in the other ubuntu users in my network? plleeeaaasssee...
[05:24] <Pablo_C> how do I enable a network interface from cli?
[05:24] <malv> you need to get the linux headers
[05:24] <Trashcan> matt@ubuntuLaptop:~$ gcc
[05:24] <Trashcan> gcc: no input files
[05:24] <dean> malv I got them working, but ran into some problems...
[05:24] <malv> dean: what problem?
[05:24] <tritium> net10, how is it shared?
[05:24] <Pablo_C> how do I enable a network interface from cli?
[05:24] <tritium> Pablo_C, if it's listed in your /etc/network/interfaces, "sudo ifup <interface_name>"
[05:24] <net10> using samba @tritium
[05:24] <Pablo_C> ok
[05:24] <Pablo_C> ty
[05:25] <crimsun> even'n' tritium
[05:25] <tritium> net10, can you browse them?
[05:25] <bob2> Trashcan: yes, what are you hoping to do with gcc?
[05:25] <Trashcan> i'm a programmer
[05:25] <Trashcan> :o
[05:25] <tritium> hi crimsun!  I'm impressed - 1/2 a second after joining, you're answering questions :)
[05:25] <dean> malv - I was following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713 step#2 - 1. sudo apt-get install linux-686 if you haven't already.
[05:25] <crimsun> tritium ;)
[05:25] <dean> or -k7 or -686-smp or -386... whatever matches your kernel.[05:25] <justin_> ok
[05:25] <justin_> i did that
[05:25] <dean> malv - I'm  now getting an error when I reboot that says that an invalid module rt2500.ko  can not be loaded
[05:25] <justin_> now what
[05:26] <crimsun> justin_: and the output is...?
[05:26] <Trashcan> moreover i need g++, but wherever gcc was i was assuming to find it there
[05:26] <net10> yes, i can see the folder but when i try to open its contents, it says "the folder contents could not be displayed". @ tritium
[05:26] <Trashcan> now for tcl and tk :D
[05:26] <nootrope> How does one "right-click" with Ubuntu HH for PowerPC? I'm on a PowerBook.
[05:26] <malv> you need to recompile for that 686 version
[05:26] <tritium> net10, what happens when you go to Places->Network Servers ?
[05:26] <malv> you need the headers corresponding to it
[05:26] <bob2> Trashcan: install build-essential
[05:26] <Trashcan> yup, got it
[05:26] <Trashcan> :)
[05:26] <Trashcan> thanks
[05:26] <dean> let me see if I can figure it out malv... that should help
[05:26] <malv> dean: or you could just go back to the 386 version
[05:26] <dean> how can I revert?
[05:26] <bob2> Trashcan: you'll rarely need to run gcc manually, tho
[05:27] <justin_> i dont even know
[05:27] <Trashcan> I know
[05:27] <Trashcan> I figured wherever I would find g++, gcc would be there
[05:27] <Trashcan> erm
[05:27] <Trashcan> other way around
[05:27] <none_-> just apt-get install g++ then
[05:27] <bob2> ah
[05:27] <dean> malv can I just sudo apt-get install linux-386 now?
[05:27] <bob2> just g++ doesn't let you build exetcutables, tho
[05:27] <justin_> i dont even know what an output is
[05:27] <malv> try it
[05:27] <Trashcan> I know, bob
[05:27] <malv> should work
[05:27] <misfit_toy> biab, cigar time
[05:27] <bob2> orry, was talking to none_- :)
[05:28] <net10> we can see the shared folder but not the contents of it.
[05:28] <Toma-> misfit_toy: thats because they have a 4.95/min help hotline
[05:28] <Trashcan> ok :p
[05:28] <malv> it will automatically reconfigure grub and show both versions of the kernel
[05:28] <Pablo_C> tritium, if the interface is not there can I add it there?
[05:28] <malv> just make sure you boot up the right one
[05:28] <none_-> yeah, i'm not aware of the libraries that are needed
[05:28] <tritium> Pablo_C, if you're comfortable doing that.
[05:28] <Pablo_C> why wouldnt I be?
[05:28] <net10> we can see the shared folder but not the contents of it. @tritium
[05:28] <none_-> libstdc something
[05:29] <kurtbec> net10: what shared folder are you talking about?
[05:29] <Pablo_C> when I enable it is just imidiately disables through the setting
[05:29] <tritium> net10, not sure what to suggest
[05:29] <Pablo_C> I dont knwo what
[05:29] <none_-> or the header files
[05:29] <KiwiKibi_> which one is more stable: a Preview or a Colony?
[05:29] <crimsun> Preview
[05:30] <none_-> neither
[05:30] <Trashcan> :p
[05:30] <crimsun> although you should run Hoary if you want "stable" right this instant.
[05:30] <Trashcan> Anyone know exactly *which* RC breezy is?
[05:30] <KiwiKibi_> how is a stable release designated then?
[05:30] <net10> kurtbec: we set up a folder on desktop and shared it. we can see it and open it from other workstation. but the contents of that shared folder can't be opened.
[05:30] <crimsun> Breezy is Breezy.
[05:30] <crimsun> there is no other name for it.
[05:30] <malv> stability is underrated
[05:31] <Trashcan> RC = release candidate
[05:31] <Trashcan> breezy 'preview'
[05:31] <Trashcan> as in incomplete
[05:31] <none_-> KiwiKibi_, when they reach their goal for this release
[05:31] <TiMiDo> damn i hate this usb mouse, sucks
[05:31] <kurtbec> net10: so we are talking a samba share?
[05:31] <malv> TiMiDo: is it a microsoft mouse?
[05:31] <KiwiKibi_> WHICH FUCKING WORD INDICATES A RELEASE IS STABLE?  goddam it.
[05:31] <net10> kurtbec: yes it's a samba. we're using ubuntu 5.10.
[05:32] <Trashcan> lawl
[05:32] <dean> malv simply rebooting into i386 worked...
[05:32] <malv> dean: good to hear
[05:32] <Trashcan> nicely done, tritium
[05:32] <breakthestate> so i've really screwed up i've apt-getted mplayer-386 and mplayer-nogui and compile mplayer from source several times and removed them several times for different reasons, now when i apt-get mplayer-386
[05:32] <kurtbec> net10: trying to access it from the command line or from gui?
[05:32] <dean> malv: thanks for talking me through it.
[05:32] <malv> if you would like to get it working with the i686 kernel, just get the right kernel headers for that version and recompile
[05:32] <net10> kurtbec: from gui.
[05:32] <breakthestate> it won't find the codes even if i apt-get w32codecs beforehand
[05:32] <breakthestate> *codecs
[05:33] <none_-> try apt-get --reinstall install w32codecs
[05:33] <dean> malv should I be running 686 or 386 with a p4 1.2ghz?
[05:33] <malv> doesn't matter. both will work
[05:33] <breakthestate> none: then reinstall mplayer?
[05:33] <MadpilotPPC> breakthestate, the w32codecs aren't in any of the Ubuntu repos anymore, AFAIK
[05:33] <malv> one might give you marginal performance
[05:33] <breakthestate> even in the universe repos?
[05:33] <dean> thanks malv
[05:34] <none_-> metaverse
[05:34] <MadpilotPPC> !tell breakthestate about restricted
[05:34] <AnkhWeasel> Is there a quick and easy way to get microphone working in Ubuntu?
[05:34] <kurtbec> net10: gnome or kde?
[05:34] <malv> dean: no problem
[05:34] <crimsun> AnkhWeasel: depends on your sound chipset
[05:34] <MadpilotPPC> breakthestate, the w32codecs can be found, see the msg ubotu just sent you
[05:34] <net10> kurtbec: gnome
[05:34] <AnkhWeasel> Even if it works well in XP?
[05:34] <Trashcan> goddamn ubotu
[05:34] <Trashcan> not responding to PMs
[05:35] <Trashcan> !tell trashcan about ATI
[05:35] <breakthestate> Madpilot:  i think i'll be able to find the, thx.. we'll see what happens with my reinstalls
[05:35] <dbzdeath> anyone know why it would be laggy in firefox just to scroll down a page? something doesn't seem right... it takes full cpu when doing it
[05:35] <jackel> My firefox crashes everytime i go to a page with a video on it, anyone know how to fix it?
[05:35] <dbzdeath> btw i'm on breezy amd64
[05:35] <AnkhWeasel> 'kay, thanks.
[05:35] <Trashcan> dbz: probably your video drivers
[05:35] <dbzdeath> Trashcan: oh??
[05:35] <Trashcan> not being able to render the page fast enough
[05:36] <durt> jackel, i have the same problem with firefox 1.5 - so i use opera
[05:36] <dbzdeath> Trashcan: i have a nvidia card with the nvidia drivers installed
[05:36] <breakthestate> opera rules
[05:36] <Trashcan> :\
[05:36] <none_-> dbz that's a known bu
[05:36] <none_-> g
[05:36] <Trashcan> guess not then
[05:36] <breakthestate> and i hear opera is free now
[05:36] <none_-> check google
[05:36] <dbzdeath> none_-: ahhh?
[05:36] <dbzdeath> cheers
[05:36] <jackel> hmm
[05:36] <Trashcan> I figured it was the same as resizing windows
[05:36] <none_-> opera owns
[05:36] <Trashcan> <-- wrong drivers + resizing windows = laaaag
[05:36] <durt> it is free now - no more adds!
[05:36] <none_-> yep
[05:37] <none_-> download it now
[05:37] <jackel> durt, you know why it was happening?
[05:37] <malv> who pays for a browser anyways
[05:37] <none_-> it's worth it
[05:37] <dbzdeath> none_-: also i have this weird bug where browsing somewhere will open the page i go to in a new window with the window's name as two question marks and if i close the window all of firefox closes... its really weird .. are they related?
[05:37] <breakthestate> malv: it was cheap and good
[05:37] <crimsun> breakthestate: free as in beer.
[05:37] <MadpilotPPC> breakthestate, you still helped make it free for the rest of us... ;)
[05:37] <durt> jackel, i dont know why - i guess its unstable or something
[05:37] <breakthestate> mad: true true
[05:37] <misfit_toy> and I'll have the beer
[05:37] <none_-> dbzdeath, only because they are the fault of firefox
[05:38] <kurtbec> net10: have you tried going to File->Connect to Server and then choosing windows share?
[05:38] <jackel> durt, and with opera you can stream all the vids too?
[05:38] <dbzdeath> none_-: ... i mean are they the same bug??
[05:38] <breakthestate> apt-get install change DC laws so they sell beer past 10
[05:38] <durt> jackel: yes
[05:38] <lampshade> Gotta a general question about apt.  If apt is updating stuff... say firefox, and I'm using firefox, would it close firefox?  If it doesn't, how does it do the update?
[05:38] <none_-> dbzdeath, i don't think so
[05:38] <dbzdeath> none_-: thanks
[05:38] <enigma002> hello everyone
[05:38] <tritium> hello, enigma002
[05:38] <breakthestate> hi
[05:38] <enigma002> how are you tritium?
[05:39] <jc1013> hi
[05:39] <jc1013> I just got ubuntu install in my computer, this is pretty cool
[05:39] <tritium> doing well, thanks, enigma002
[05:39] <enigma002> thats great
[05:39] <tristanmike> lampshade, perhaps it applies the changes next time you start firefox
[05:39] <enigma002> yea i just installed it too
[05:39] <none_-> lampshade, you have to quit firefox for the update
[05:39] <enigma002> :D
[05:39] <enigma002> it ROCKS
[05:39] <tritium> :)
[05:39] <enigma002> few questions but
[05:39] <enigma002> :$
[05:39] <jc1013> yeah and is free!
[05:39] <enigma002> yep
[05:39] <lampshade> none_-:  so would it prompt or what?  Will apt just stop and be like hey quit this program?
[05:39] <enigma002> hey guys
[05:39] <jc1013> windows ain't got shit on this
[05:39] <lampshade> what if you are using a bash console and it needs to update bash?
[05:40] <none_-> it won't do anything
[05:40] <enigma002> i just orderd like 40 cds PC and 10 mack or something
[05:40] <enigma002> will they send it to me?
[05:40] <malv> yea
[05:40] <malv> they sent me 80 cds
[05:40] <enigma002> i am a computer admin at a uni collage
[05:40] <none_-> any programs already running are in RAM or swap
[05:40] <malv> I made an ubuntu suit of armor
[05:40] <enigma002> wow
[05:40] <enigma002> :D
[05:40] <enigma002> great
[05:40] <tritium> malv, that's not what they're for ;)
[05:40] <durt> the one thing windows has over ubuntu is playing wmvs
[05:40] <malv> now this ubuntu zealot will get some attention
[05:40] <jc1013> what's wmvs?
[05:40] <malv> nah, i plan to hand them out at the uni to freshman
[05:40] <MadpilotPPC> durt, you can play wmvs in x86 Ubuntu
[05:40] <breakthestate> durt: ubuntu can lay wmvs
[05:41] <jc1013> what is wmvs?
[05:41] <breakthestate> jc: a type of media file
[05:41] <durt> not wmv10s or whatever certain "adult site" offer
[05:41] <jc1013> oh for video
[05:41] <MadpilotPPC> jc1013, Windows Media Video, I think it stands for
[05:41] <malv> is it possible to play quicktime vids for free with ubuntu?
[05:41] <breakthestate> malv: i would guess so with mplayer
[05:42] <breakthestate> and the right codecs
[05:42] <tristanmike> malv, yes but you need the w32codecs
[05:42] <jc1013> is it possible to install excel in umbunto?
[05:42] <MadpilotPPC> malv, with w32codecs
[05:42] <malv> how about streaming quicktime?
[05:42] <none_-> yes pretty much every codec
[05:42] <none_-> will play on linux
[05:42] <enigma002> where can u get linux codecs?
[05:42] <malv> ok
[05:42] <malv> what about wmv 9?
[05:42] <tristanmike> malv, yeah, I stream from the quicktime trailers site all the time
[05:42] <MadpilotPPC> jc1013, OpenOffice will load most Excel files
[05:42] <durt> jc1013 - gnumeric works good
[05:42] <kurtbec> jc1013: you can run ms office apps very well with crossover office and maybe with stock wine.
[05:42] <drklogic_> (kubuntu hoary question) every couple hours amarok randomly crashes and i end up having to kill it, and it wont start back up again until i restart kde. anyone know anything about this problem?
[05:42] <breakthestate> malv: go to mplayerhq.com
[05:42] <none_-> malv, if you mean embedded video then you need the firefox plugin
[05:42] <MadpilotPPC> enigma002, they're all in the Ubuntu repositories
[05:43] <jc1013> thanks
[05:43] <malv> ok
[05:43] <enigma002> ohhh
[05:43] <lampshade> malv:  yeah vlc and other such players will play pretty well everything.  It is amazing
[05:43] <breakthestate> malv: but use apt-get to get it, don't compile from source
[05:43] <enigma002> where do i find repositories :$
[05:43] <enigma002> sorry im new to this
[05:43] <enigma002> ie 2hours new
[05:43] <enigma002> to linux
[05:43] <MadpilotPPC> !tell enigma002 about repos
[05:43] <jc1013> are you guys always in channel 1?
[05:43] <enigma002> :$
[05:43] <breakthestate> enigma: it's as hard as it seems
[05:43] <MadpilotPPC> enigma002, follow the msg that ubotu just sent you
[05:43] <enigma002> sure
[05:43] <enigma002> :D
[05:43] <enigma002> thanks
[05:43] <dmlinux> Hey guys, can ANYONE tell me why i cant edit  a XORG.CONF file, when i sudo nano it acts as if there is no file there
[05:44] <none_-> xorg.conf
[05:44] <none_-> all lowercase
[05:44] <dmlinux> i knw
[05:44] <none_-> it's in /etc/X11R6/
[05:44] <none_-> er
[05:44] <tritium> dmlinux, generally, you want to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:44] <none_->  /etc/X11
[05:44] <malv> what is the firefox plugin called?
[05:44] <dmlinux> im trying to edit the xorg.conf for my input devices.
[05:44] <kurtbec> net10: you still there?
[05:44] <benh> heh
[05:45] <tristanmike> malv, media player connectivity
[05:45] <benh> breezy has this funky front-end on top of sysvinit
[05:45] <none_-> Malv there are a couple; i was thinking of the mplayer one
[05:45] <benh> but I didn't get it when upgrading from hoary
[05:45] <benh> it's a separate package ?
[05:45] <durt> its in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:46] <tritium> benh, it's in gnome-system-tools
[05:46] <benh> tritium: not the front-end for configuring
[05:46] <tritium> benh, yeah...
[05:46] <benh> tritium: the front-end at boot, instead of text mode, I get a gfx stuff with a progress bar
[05:46] <iiiears> did Breezy finally configure grub menu.lst correctly with various layouts?
[05:47] <dbzdeath> none_-: the memory leak bug??
[05:47] <tritium> benh, usplash?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure your linux-image
[05:48] <tritium> i.e., sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[05:48] <benh> tritium: hrm... not sure if it's the kernel bootsplash, looked more like a front end on sysvinit
[05:49] <benh> tritium: I'm using my own kernel, so that won't work :)
[05:49] <tritium> benh, oh, that's right.  Not sure how you can enable it in that case.
[05:49] <benh> tritium: breezy doesn't have fan control & working nvidiafb for that machine :)
[05:50] <tritium> benh, yeah, your iMac G5, right?
[05:51] <Trashcan> hey hey
[05:51] <Trashcan> problem  :o
[05:51] <Trashcan> I installed the ati drivers, and edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf like the wiki tutorial said
[05:51] <Trashcan> and then i reboot, and X fails to start, which wouldn't be a problem
[05:52] <dbzdeath> hey is it possible to install ubuntu on a mac?
[05:52] <Trashcan> but, the boot process halts
[05:52] <malv> dbzdeath: yea
[05:52] <Trashcan> it just sits there after 'Checking battery state'
[05:52] <malv> dbzdeath: you need the ppc edition
[05:52] <Trashcan> so i cant go in and change the xorg.conf back
[05:52] <dbzdeath> malv: cool... was just curious... if i ever get a mac i'll install it ;)
[05:52] <Trashcan> how do i stop X from initing before boot?
[05:52] <malv> dbzdeath: they will all be x86 very soon
[05:52] <durt> trashcan, can you boot up in recovery mode?
[05:53] <Trashcan> explain?
[05:53] <dbzdeath> malv: i know ... thats good :)
[05:53] <durt> hit ESC at when it says grub is loading and choose recovery mode
[05:53] <Trashcan> alright
[05:53] <Trashcan> will do
[05:53] <dbzdeath> don't need to run crummy mac software :P
[05:53] <Trashcan> another thing: can you reorder the boot process?
[05:53] <Trashcan> NTP starts up before PCMCIA
[05:53] <vladuz976> anybody know how to install japanese language support?
[05:53] <Trashcan> so my wireless card isn't on
[05:54] <Trashcan> and NTP fails
[05:54] <kurtbec> dbzdeath: i second that notion
[05:54] <dbzdeath> kurtbec: yay :)
[05:54] <malv> vladuz976: i think it's apt-get install language-support-ja
[05:54] <malv> correct me if I am wrong
[05:55] <Trashcan> cool, recovery worked
[05:55] <Trashcan> thanks
[05:55] <kurtbec> macs have caused me no end of grief in life.
[05:55] <nomasteryoda> i concur on that kurtbec
[05:55] <Trashcan> wtf... boots straight into root
[05:55] <malv> took me 5 days to figure out how to eject a floppy
[05:55] <nomasteryoda> much pain in the....
[05:55] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:55] <Trashcan> so all someone has to do is walk up and reset the machine
[05:55] <kurtbec> they killed my innter child :-)
[05:55] <Trashcan> to get root
[05:55] <vladuz976> malv: i'll try
[05:55] <malv> i'll take a shotgun blast to the head over a mac =)
[05:55] <Trashcan> </3 mac
[05:55] <Trashcan> macs SUCK <-- imao
[05:56] <durt> trashcan, you can set a root pass then
[05:56] <malv> unless I got it for free, then its ok
[05:56] <dbzdeath> Trashcan: i agree,,, pc's are better... but hey what do you do when you get a free mac from a competition or something? install linux :P
[05:56] <Trashcan> won't having an active root account defeat the purpose of the sudo model?
[05:56] <kurtbec> hardware is mostly good, but software stinks
[05:56] <malv> sudo is still safer
[05:56] <dbzdeath> yeah
[05:56] <dbzdeath> mac's OS' are like windows to me... less choice than linux
[05:57] <malv> at least windows can game
[05:57] <dbzdeath> choice is good :D
[05:57] <dbzdeath> yeah true
[05:57] <kurtbec> yep still proprietary lock in no matter how you sugar coat it.
[05:57] <malv> with mac, I get nothing over linux... nothing... well, I do get an OpenGl driven desktop engine
[05:57] <malv> pretty icons too
[05:57] <dbzdeath> bah i'm pretty sure there are wm's like that for linux
[05:58] <malv> haven't found a truly awesome icon set for linux yet
[05:58] <djbrieck> hello
[05:58] <tritium> there's always #ubuntu-offtopic for extended discussion of other OSes
[05:58] <dbzdeath> haha sorry :/
[05:58] <kurtbec> you guys have seen the movie that a guy about why he hates macs right?
[05:58] <tritium> no worries, dbzdeath
[05:58] <dbzdeath> kurtbec: #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[05:58] <scanwinder> whats the command to restart xorg?
[05:59] <Trashcan> [20:57]  <dbzdeath> Trashcan: i agree,,, pc's are better... but hey what do you do when you get a free mac from a competition or something? install linux :P <-- for sure :D
[05:59] <malv> scanwinder: ctrl + alt + backspace
[05:59] <frogman> eh? what's this "colony 1-5" thing
[05:59] <Trashcan> aside from the inability to upgrade, ubuntu or freebsd on a mac with a 3 button mouse would be nice
[05:59] <Trashcan> but if its a lappy, the no-upgrade doesnt matter anyway
[05:59] <kurtbec> dbzdeath: sorry my bad.  that movie made me cry i laughed so hard.
[05:59] <Trashcan> I would very much like to have ubuntu on a nice mac lappy :D
[05:59] <tritium> Trashcan, what do you mean by "no upgrade" on ubuntu?
[05:59] <Trashcan> with a 3 button usb mouse
[06:00] <Trashcan> i mean to the hardware
[06:00] <dbzdeath> kurtbec: is that the one that the guy said he loves mac's and at the end it says this was made with a mac and the movie goes all shitty? mocking mac's
[06:00] <Trashcan> nice thing about PC is, I can upgrade it whenever i want
[06:00] <vladuz976> malv: that package translates packages into japanese, so i can read all the menus in japanese. but how can i type japanese?
[06:00] <Trashcan> and theres a sheer plethora of things to put in it
[06:00] <dbzdeath> Trashcan: yes! go modding
[06:00] <frogman> ubuntu on a nice pc lappy > ubuntu on a nice mac lappy (personally)
[06:00] <malv> vladuz976: oh, dunno
[06:00] <dbzdeath> mac lappies aren't bad
[06:00] <kurtbec> dbzdeath: no its a bit different than that.
[06:00] <lampshade> If I have the preview version installed and I am looking to upgrade to the real thing once it comes out, will I have to mod my apt sources at all or will it be transparent?  Like one day I just to apt-get update and upgrade and bam I have the official version?
[06:00] <frogman> not great either
[06:01] <dbzdeath> kurtbec: haven't seen it then
[06:01] <frogman> i've owned 3. and many pc lappies
[06:01] <dilmar> oi
[06:01] <dilmar> hellowwww
[06:01] <dilmar> hellowww
[06:01] <Trashcan> i like mac for the sexy-factor
[06:01] <dbzdeath> dilmar: HIIIIIIIIIII
[06:01] <tritium> hi, dilmar
[06:01] <CodenameROFL> harro
[06:02] <dilmar> hi
[06:02] <Trashcan> but mac is very much form over function
[06:02] <durt> i like porn for the sexy factor
[06:02] <Trashcan> heh
[06:02] <Trashcan> well... duh
[06:02] <dilmar> i don t understand
[06:02] <dbzdeath> hahaha'
[06:02] <malv> mac relies on image
[06:02] <dbzdeath> i don't really like apple much
[06:02] <dilmar> no
[06:02] <lampshade> mac is what linux should kinda aim for honestly....  it has the nice darwin shell underneath but on top has the nice pretty graphics art students love
[06:02] <WhiteRabbit> porn is for those who can't get more than 1 woman into bed at one time!
[06:02] <malv> overall, the experience, for me, is purely aesthetics
[06:02] <dilmar> i don't understand.....
[06:02] <tritium> please keep on topic
[06:02] <MadpilotPPC> **ahem** ubuntu-offtopic is nice and quiet, everyone... ;)
[06:02] <dbzdeath> hahaha
[06:03] <lampshade> haha
[06:03] <dilmar> hahahahha
[06:03] <nomasteryoda> you guys need to go over to #freenode to talk Pr0n
[06:03] <tritium> indeed, please not here
[06:03] <nomasteryoda> keep it on ubuntu please
[06:03] <dilmar> hellowwwwww
[06:03] <Trashcan> whats the command to regenerate the default xorg.conf?
[06:03] <WhiteRabbit> HEY
[06:03] <Trashcan> something happened and now it says it's incomplete :)
[06:03] <Trashcan> all i changed was 'ati'
[06:03] <dilmar> girl
[06:03] <lampshade> whatever, I saw the old cd covers... that was close to pr0n
[06:03] <tritium> Trashcan, you can reconfigure it with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:03] <dilmar> hi
[06:03] <Trashcan> thanks
[06:04] <Trashcan> tritium saves the day again
[06:04] <dbzdeath> MadpilotPPC: i'm in it! they aren't :P
[06:04] <tritium> heh
[06:04] <dilmar> in problem in the clock
[06:04] <dilmar> 2 systens in one HD
[06:04] <dilmar> please, help-me
[06:04] <djbrieck> I am having so trouble with my wireless network card in my laptop
[06:04] <odd-> so, if you ssh to a boxen, and mplayer -vo aa file.avi , you get ascii movies
[06:05] <dilmar> bye
[06:05] <Dongdong> bye
[06:05] <djbrieck> it shows up and has a signal but will not conncect to the internet
[06:06] <djbrieck> system is a Dell Inspiron 8200
[06:06] <enigma002> i tried the repositorys but cant find one that will play WMP
[06:06] <djbrieck> Intel Pro/Wireless 2200 card
[06:06] <tritium> djbrieck, hoary?
[06:06] <catherine_> hi
[06:06] <djbrieck> 5.04
[06:06] <djbrieck> i think
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> djbrieck, you need ndiswrapper then
[06:06] <Trashcan> and xinit to start up X?
[06:06] <MadpilotPPC> enigma002, you can get the w32codecs for wmv
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> !tell djbrieck about ndiswrapper
[06:06] <Trashcan> after i've reconfigured
[06:06] <tritium> no, ipw2200 is supported without ndiswrapper
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> ok
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> my bad
[06:07] <catherine_> ctc pls
[06:07] <Trashcan> yay
[06:07] <lampshade> yeah there is a sourceforge project for the ipw2200
[06:07] <Trashcan> x works
[06:07] <tritium> Trashcan, no, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:07] <Trashcan> thanks tritium
[06:07] <Trashcan> well
[06:07] <Trashcan> reboot
[06:07] <Trashcan> :p
[06:07] <desserie> hi
[06:07] <frogman> yeah, i was thinking: since when do any intel network cards not have linux driver support?
[06:07] <desserie> hi
[06:07] <tritium> djbrieck, the ipw2200 support in breezy is much better.  Care to upgrade?
[06:07] <crimsun> ipw2200 support in Breezy is excellent.
[06:08] <djbrieck> ok
[06:08] <iamsobored00566> i cant change the screen resolution
[06:08] <lampshade> crimsun: really??
[06:08] <tritium> yes!
[06:08] <iamsobored00566> i am using the live cd
[06:08] <iamsobored00566> anyone want to help?
[06:08] <lampshade> crimsun:  I haven't tried but have been waiting for it to be supported nicely
[06:08] <djbrieck> so I have to type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start to get it to work
[06:08] <lampshade> crimsun:  Does it work well?  Are you using it??
[06:08] <Trashcan> so about boot reordering
[06:08] <tritium> lampshade, I'm using it as we speak
[06:09] <Trashcan> is it possible to move NTP start up to post-PCMCIA?
[06:09] <{X}> hi
[06:09] <Trashcan> NTP fails every boot, since the wireless hasn't been initialized yet
[06:09] <tritium> Trashcan, with update-rc.d, you can change things around
[06:10] <nomasteryoda> wahooo .. only 140 updates to go
[06:10] <Trashcan> :D
[06:10] <dmlinux> Ok guys
[06:11] <{X}> hi
[06:11] <{X}> ive just got ubuntu
[06:11] <dmlinux> Iam trying to edit a xorg.conf in /etc/x11/xorg.conf but evertime i do sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf nano opens up a new file and doesnt open the existing... HOW DO I CHANGE THE READ ONLY for the xorf.conf so i can configure my Bluetooth mouse
[06:11] <{X}> is there any good programs i should install ?
[06:11] <{X}> !kde
[06:11] <ubotu> A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/
[06:11] <djbrieck> What should I try to get the ipw 2200 to work other than downloading 5.10
[06:12] <Trashcan> oh boy
[06:12] <tritium> djbrieck, most hoary users build more recent ipw2200 modules, which is a fair amount of work
[06:12] <Trashcan> i dont think im gonna touch update-rc.d yet :)
[06:12] <{X}> !ftp
[06:12] <ubotu> {X}: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:13] <Chinaman> anyone got cedega?
[06:13] <durt> yes chinaman
[06:14] <Chinaman> how would i set it up?
[06:14] <dmlinux> Iam trying to edit a xorg.conf in /etc/x11/xorg.conf but evertime i do sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf nano opens up a new file and doesnt open the existing... HOW DO I CHANGE THE READ ONLY for the xorf.conf so i can configure my Bluetooth mouse
[06:14] <Chinaman> i got cedega package and point2play seperately
[06:14] <Chinaman> and the instructions in that thing are utterly confusing
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> dmlinux, you need to use X11 there
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> not x11
[06:14] <cosimo321> Hello all I have problem and need help
[06:15] <durt> chinaman, did you get a cedega deb?
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> cosimo321, ask it
[06:15] <Chinaman> durt: i got deb of both
[06:15] <cosimo321> I have downloaded both the nvidia drivers for my fx5200 pci card and my wacom tablet drivers.
[06:15] <cosimo321> However, I cannot install them
[06:16] <cosimo321> command line sees the pkg but when I try to install itsays no package exists
[06:16] <durt> chinaman, i dont know what pointyplay is - just install the cedega deb
[06:16] <nomasteryoda> !tell cosimo321 about nvidia
[06:16] <cosimo321> any Ideas?
[06:16] <Trashcan> did you typo? :o
[06:16] <Chinaman> durt i dpkg --install the cedega one
[06:16] <Chinaman> now what do i do?
[06:16] <cosimo321> what about the wacom dirvers?
[06:16] <Trashcan> anyone know the GMail info for evolution off the top of your head?
[06:17] <durt> chinaman, you run "cedega thegameinstallationfile.exe"
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> cosimo321, you should not need any special ones
[06:17] <Trashcan> pop3/smtp
[06:17] <tritium> cosimo321, you should use the ubuntu nvidia packages
[06:17] <hermit> hey guys i just did a fresh install of ubuntu and it rules! i have one problem though...
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> my wacom usb just works
[06:17] <hermit> for some reason, firefox is crashing when i go to www.meatspin.com
[06:17] <hermit> it has a flash thing on it but it works on other systems
[06:17] <cosimo321> nvidia pacage in ubuntu does not work with this card! have tried and video goes out completely
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> cosimo321, you just add some config settings to the xorg.conf file
[06:17] <Chinaman> o.0
[06:17] <hermit> it seems to be specific to ubuntu's default firefox
[06:17] <cosimo321> like what?
[06:17] <hermit> can anyone confirm the same behavior at meatspin.com with firefox?
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> cosimo321, then you need to install some more stuff
[06:17] <poincare_> q
[06:17] <cosimo321> OK!?
[06:18] <dmlinux> Does anyone know a better Application for manageing BLUETOOTH on Ubuntu Breezy
[06:18] <nomasteryoda> !tell cosimo321 about build-essential
[06:18] <nomasteryoda> see that ?
[06:18] <durt> hermit, you dirty bastard
[06:18] <nomasteryoda> do it
[06:18] <cosimo321> do what?
[06:18] <djbrieck> Are there any guide to building modules for the ipw2200
[06:18] <nomasteryoda> cosimo321, the other tab that opened
[06:18] <tritium> djbrieck, I saw one on the forums
[06:18] <nomasteryoda> you using xchat?
[06:18] <cosimo321> what are you talking about?
[06:18] <hermit> durt: did it crash you as well ?
[06:18] <tritium> I still think upgrading to breezy might be more pleasant, djbrieck
[06:18] <djbrieck> ok
[06:18] <hermit> cosimo321: talking about meatspin.com in firefox
[06:18] <Trashcan> hermit for some reason, firefox is crashing when i go to www.meatspin.com <-- someone wanna ban him?
[06:18] <cosimo321> yes xchat
[06:18] <nomasteryoda> cosimo321, the program you are chatting on?
[06:19] <cosimo321> xchat
[06:19] <hermit> Trashcan: hey man i'm sorry for finding a bug
[06:19] <jayr3n> hello guys
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> ubotu should have told you something
[06:19] <ubotu> nomasteryoda: Are you smoking crack?
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> in a nother tab
[06:19] <tritium> Trashcan, what is that URL?
[06:19] <hermit> it could be the flash plugin crashing but i dont know how to narrow it down
[06:19] <hermit> tritium: it's at meatspin.com
[06:19] <Trashcan> tritium: same category as tubgirl, goatse, and lemonparty
[06:19] <jayr3n> how can i install a driver for ati radeon 9250? and can directx be installed in ubuntu
[06:19] <MadpilotPPC> hermit, I'm Flashless here, that URL loads but has no real non-Flash content...
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> cosimo321, did you look at the nvidia readme?
[06:20] <tritium> Trashcan, oh
[06:20] <cosimo321> for some reason I feel like I am talking to lartians
[06:20] <hermit> MadpilotPPC: well then it must be a flash plugin issue
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> cosimo321, directions are pretty simple... but require those developer packages...
[06:20] <hermit> because it crashes here as soon as it starts to load
[06:20] <cosimo321> can anyone give me a good solution
[06:20] <hermit> i'll have to try getting the flash plugin from macromedia i guess
[06:20] <hermit> thanks for your help
[06:20] <Trashcan> shut up hermit... you're just pointing people to look at it
[06:20] <MadpilotPPC> hermit, it wouldn't surprise me; Ubuntu FF + Flash seems to be twitchy sometimes
[06:20] <setuid_w00t> Trashcan: to look at what?
[06:20] <Trashcan> I opened it and it came right up
[06:20] <Trashcan> no problems
[06:20] <Trashcan> I'm not repeating the url
[06:20] <hermit> MadpilotPPC: ah, i didn't know that was a known issue
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> tritium, can you tel cosimo321 what to do? what an xchat tab is?
[06:20] <hermit> setuid_w00t: meatspin.com
[06:21] <jayr3n> how can i install a driver for ati radeon 9250? and can directx be installed in ubuntu
[06:21] <hermit> warning: it may crash your browser
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> so he can get the !tell info ubotu is telling him
[06:21] <hermit> it does mine
[06:21] <tritium> nomasteryoda, sorry, wasn't following that thread.  Let me check...
[06:21] <MadpilotPPC> !+ati
[06:21] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[06:21] <MadpilotPPC> jayr3n, see ubotu ^^^
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> !nvidia
[06:21] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> cosimo321, try that
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> very good direcitons
[06:21] <jayr3n> ok tnx i will check it out
[06:21] <frogman> i bet it doesnt crash your browser.. i've already seen it all though so i'm not a fun one to prank :)
[06:22] <tritium> cosimo321, what are you trying to do with xchat?
[06:22] <Chinaman> durt: would it run halo?
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> tritium, i think he saw it now
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> sees
[06:22] <tritium> thanks, nomasteryoda
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> np
[06:22] <Chinaman> durt: i'm trying to run it from my windows mount
[06:22] <kurtbec> y
[06:23] <durt> chinaman, it might
[06:23] <Chinaman> it says i need to free up memory
[06:23] <hermit> can you guys recommend another channel where i could get some help then? since everyone's just being hostile here
[06:23] <cosimo321> that package is unavailable
[06:23] <scanwinder> how do i use the command "cd" to get into a dir which has spaces in the name?
[06:24] <tritium> hermit, we're not big fans of your URL
[06:24] <hermit> tritium: neither am i, i like my browser to display pages, not disappear
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> Chinaman, cause it needs to write to the drive you have halo on... and it's an NTFS windows xp right?
[06:24] <scanwinder> wait, got it, dw
[06:24] <hermit> but it seems to be a bug
[06:24] <cosimo321> nvidia-glx is not avialable
[06:24] <Chinaman> nomasteryoda: yeah
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> cosimo321, the directions are basic.. the nvidia installer will work
[06:24] <tritium> it's in restricted, cosimo321
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> i have done it
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> yea
[06:25] <Chinaman> so basically i have to install it on my 5GB?
[06:25] <Chinaman> sigh...
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> Chinaman, sounds like it
[06:26] <mark> Hey guys - How do I install the multiverse thing so I have more aps like skype and stuff in synaptic?
[06:26] <procrastinationn> can u play wma ?
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> !tell mark about repos
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> procrastinationn, yes
[06:26] <mark> yes tell mark about repos
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> !tell procrastinationn about w32codecs
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> mark, it xchat opened a new tab with that info under ubotu
[06:27] <procrastinationn> i can play mp3's just not wma's
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> procrastinationn, not if you install w32codecs
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> !w32codecs
[06:27] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[06:27] <mark> nomasteryoda thanks
[06:28] <WhiteRabbit> But that codecs libary is not legal
[06:28] <WhiteRabbit> why advertise piracy
[06:28] <procrastinationn> can i play wma's and mp3's
[06:28] <nomasteryoda> for the lame xchat users on this channel... xchat opens tabs you can ... Ubotu does that too to help keep down noise
[06:28] <franci> alguem aqui fala portugues
[06:28] <nomasteryoda> mark, np
[06:28] <nomasteryoda> !tell franci about ubuntu-es
[06:28] <nomasteryoda> as close as i know to portugues
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> mabye they have a channel ?
[06:29] <franci> ok tanks
[06:29] <MadpilotPPC> !+pt
[06:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> ah, good
[06:29] <franci> !+pt
[06:29] <procrastinationn> so i can play mp3's and wma's
[06:30] <nomasteryoda> yes
[06:30] <nomasteryoda> procrastinationn, after installing w32codecs
[06:30] <procrastinationn> where do i get the codec's fpr wms
[06:30] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, the w32codecs pack will run mp3, wma, and a whole pile of other stuff too
[06:30] <nomasteryoda> !repos
[06:30] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> sorry guys, but people don't know how to use x-chat
[06:31] <procrastinationn> so why wont it now i can play mp3's
[06:31] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, you've already been given the w32codec info - scroll back up!
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> thanks MadpilotPPC
[06:31] <Chinaman> omfg, it is installing
[06:31] <wickedpuppy> nomasteryoda, x-chat is no difference from mirc
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> right
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> well, people should use xchat... =)
[06:31] <tritium> nomasteryoda, hey, who are you calling lame?  ;)
[06:32] <nomasteryoda> if they are onubuntu
[06:32] <nomasteryoda> lol
[06:32] <dbzdeath> nomasteryoda: xchat pwns :)
[06:32] <MadpilotPPC> XChat is awful...
[06:32] <esac> did they change the lock screen dialog? it used to be ubuntu brown, and now it's cool looking, and i don't think i changed anything
[06:32] <dougsk> MadpilotPPC, so what else would you suggest?
[06:32] <crimsun> esac: yes, it changed. And it rocks.
[06:33] <esac> i agree !
[06:33] <franci> ja estou no cnal -br, obrigado
[06:33] <MadpilotPPC> dougsk, on my own machine I use Opera, with integrated IRC - much slicker than XChat...
[06:33] <dougsk> MadpilotPPC, hmm, never tried, I suppose I should now that there is a free beer version
[06:34] <dougsk> MadpilotPPC, I use epic and xchat and am pretty much lost in all others
[06:34] <esac> now all they have to do is change the splash screen when logging into gnome, and when booting :)
[06:35] <Chinaman> nomasteryoda: so basically, we don't even NEED point2play?
[06:36] <vladuz976> are there other input methods othe than scim that support japanese and work in breezy?
[06:36] <hondje> scim is the best
[06:37] <esac> where is the shm directory supposed to be ? i don't see one
[06:37] <vladuz976> hondje: it doesn't work in breezy
[06:37] <dikadika> is there a good way to extract single files from a windows .exe?
[06:38] <esac> dikadika: did you just try unzip file.exe ?
[06:38] <hondje> hrm, can you use anthy by itself?
[06:38] <dikadika> esac, havent tried, i'll give that a shot thanks
[06:39] <dikadika> my hero
[06:39] <dikadika> thanks
[06:39] <Carpe_Libertatem> I need to install Linux to an old machine with little resources, so I am going to start with a server install and add a Window manager - what is a good one for an older machine? Would Fluxbox work?
[06:39] <ivanoat1> strange question, but is there an equivalent in ubunto to the mac's expose where you can see all your windows at once? I am addicted to that..!
[06:40] <wickedpuppy> yup
[06:40] <wickedpuppy> fluxbox would be nice
[06:40] <Carpe_Libertatem> ivanoat1: Install kompose
[06:40] <ivanoat1> sweet, thanks
[06:40] <Carpe_Libertatem> ivanoat1: it is meant for KDE, but I found it works in Ubuntu GNOME fine
[06:40] <dikadika> Carpe_Libertatem, fux is a low resource WM with lotsof feathers
[06:40] <dikadika> *flux
[06:40] <Carpe_Libertatem> So you think it'd be best?
[06:41] <durt> anyone with opera know how to change the drop-down menu color to something other than gray?
[06:41] <wickedpuppy> Carpe_Libertatem, there is only one way to find out :P
[06:41] <breakthestate> carpe: you still want so use ubuntu?
[06:41] <breakthestate> on this machine
[06:41] <lampshade> what is kompose?
[06:41] <dikadika> Carpe_Libertatem, i dont have much exp with low resource WM's but i've used flux and it is real good
[06:41] <Carpe_Libertatem> breakthestate, it's for a friend, DSL wouldn't install on it for some reason.
[06:42] <Carpe_Libertatem> lampshade, use google :-P
[06:42] <breakthestate> carpe: i'd try slack10.2 and not install kde, you can pick xfce for your desktop environment and wm, it works good on my old computer
[06:42] <odd-> I dislike kde
[06:42] <lampshade> Carpe_Libertatem:  in the time it took you to type that you could have just given a nice friendly description... I wasn't looking for instruction on compiling it from source :-/
[06:42] <odd-> that's what got me into ubuntu in the first place
[06:43] <breakthestate> carpe: how old are we talking with this computer?
[06:43] <ivanoat1> I did apt-get install kompose but it's asking me for my cdrom drive, which is in another state! any work-arounds?
[06:43] <Carpe_Libertatem> pg266, 2gb hdd, 128mb ram
[06:44] <breakthestate> ivan: do you know what repos are in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:44] <MadpilotPPC> ivanoat1, you need to remove the CD from your sources
[06:44] <Pablo_C> drive to the other state
[06:44] <jayr> wer can i get this xorg-driver-fglrx?
[06:44] <Carpe_Libertatem> er
[06:44] <Carpe_Libertatem> p266*
[06:44] <ivanoat1> lol, 14 hours later... thanks.. will check sources.list
[06:45] <breakthestate> carpe: does that mean a pentium II ?
[06:45] <Carpe_Libertatem> I'd say so.
[06:45] <mbpillai> fglrx modules from ubuntu restricted tree .  I it in compiled form
[06:46] <breakthestate> oh, all my computers are pentium III, so i don't know if slack would work well on a pentium II, but i think it could
[06:46] <jayr> what?
[06:46] <jayr> wer can i find drivers for ati radeon 9250?
[06:46] <Carpe_Libertatem> Does slack have apt-get ? :-P
[06:46] <hondje> it has slapt-get
[06:47] <poincare_> hey
[06:48] <jayr> wer can i find drivers for ati radeon 9250?
[06:48] <Chinaman> durt / nomasteryoda: i'm still getting same message
[06:48] <breakthestate> carpe: no, you have to compile stuff, they have an imitation, slapt, but i haven't tried it, i don't think it's that easy - is there an ubuntu lite of any sort?
[06:49] <Chinaman> even after i installed it onto my nix
[06:49] <djbrieck> can Ntfs be viewed by ubuntu?
[06:49] <Carpe_Libertatem> I'll just try server install and fluxbox on top, report my findings
[06:49] <MadpilotPPC> !tell jayr about ati
[06:49] <Carpe_Libertatem> ;-)
[06:50] <lampshade> djbrieck:yes but write is dangerous
[06:50] <djbrieck> ok how do i do it?
[06:51] <breakthestate> carpe: i definitely want to know how that goes
[06:51] <hondje> djbrieck: You mount it, and change to that directory
[06:51] <jayr> wer can i find drivers for ati radeon 9250?
[06:51] <hondje> mount -t ntfs /dev/whatever /place/you/want/to/mount/it
[06:51] <Trashcan> !tell jayr about ati
[06:52] <djbrieck> ok
[06:52] <djbrieck> thanks
[06:52] <dougsk_> hondje: should the -r option be used as well or does it default to read only?
[06:52] <MadpilotPPC> jayr, ubotu should have sent you at least two messages by now - please check them for more information!
[06:53] <jayr> wer is E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:53] <jayr> wen i follow the instructions
[06:53] <jayr> wats the xorg-driver?
[06:53] <Trashcan> a driver for x.org
[06:53] <jayr> wer can i get dat
[06:54] <Trashcan> open a terminal
[06:54] <yoink> !tell yoink about ati
[06:54] <Trashcan> and type this
[06:54] <jayr> ok
[06:54] <Trashcan> sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver
[06:54] <dougsk_> jayr: that package is in the restrcited repository, afaik that's enabled by default
[06:55] <Trashcan> type it exactly like that
[06:55] <jayr> ok wait
[06:55] <Trashcan> then it will ask for your password
[06:55] <jayr> E: Couldn't find package fglrx-driver
[06:55] <Trashcan> your repo's are fucked up
[06:56] <wickedpuppy> lol
[06:56] <Trashcan> !tell jayr about repos
[06:56] <lightsource> d
[06:56] <lightsource> how can I upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10??
[06:56] <MadpilotPPC> jayr, which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:57] <Trashcan> !tell lightsource about breezy
[06:57] <jayr> 5.10
[06:57] <graham> !tell graham about breezy
[06:57] <Trashcan> apt-get chooses the correct package when you specify fglrx-driver
[06:57] <Trashcan> (that is, it picks the xorg driver instead)
[07:01] <Trashcan> wtf
[07:01] <jayr> wat package do i need to get fglrx-driver
[07:02] <Trashcan> * matthew (n=matthew_@ip70-176-180-97.ph.ph.cox.net) has left #ubuntu ("Leaving"
[07:02] <Trashcan> my name is matthew
[07:02] <tritium> it's xorg-driver-fglrx, jayr
[07:02] <_RB_> heyas. having major trouble with mysqld. it stalls my bootup, so i want to know how to skip/cancel it while booting so i can get in to re-install mysql
[07:02] <Trashcan> and im 70.176.253.127.ph.ph.cox.net
[07:02] <Trashcan> thats fucking creepy
[07:02] <_RB_> anyone know how to get around this ?
[07:03] <tritium> language, please, Trashcan
[07:03] <Trashcan> sorry
[07:03] <Doonz> if i do the upgrade to breezy will it chjange  fstab and other files?
[07:03] <jayr> i searched dat in synaptic no package found
[07:03] <_RB_> i cant get into do anything till i can get past this
[07:04] <tritium> jayr, setup your repositories like ubotu told you
[07:04] <dougsk> _RB_ mv /etc/rc2.d/s##mysql kmysql
[07:04] <dougsk> _RD_ rather jsut change the S in /etc/rc2 to K
[07:04] <jayr> hmmm
[07:05] <_RB_> dougsk I cant get a shell. after the grub loader, it doesn't let me do anything and it just loads up till it gets to mysqld, which doesn't go any further
[07:05] <jayr> how? and wat do i need to setup
[07:05] <Trashcan> jayr
[07:05] <Trashcan> ubotu gave you a link
[07:05] <ubotu> Trashcan: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:05] <Trashcan> click the link
[07:05] <Trashcan> read the tutorial
[07:05] <Trashcan> do what it says
[07:05] <dougsk> _RB_ isn't there a method to boot single user from the grub prompt?
[07:06] <jayr> i dont know wat repository to add
[07:06] <Trashcan> universe
[07:06] <Trashcan> it should be in one of the ones already there
[07:06] <tritium> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:06] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: (Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11 (hoary), Packaged size: 3110 kB, Installed size: 9940 kB
[07:06] <tritium> restricted ^^^
[07:06] <Trashcan> ah, nevermind
[07:06] <Trashcan> restricted :)
[07:06] <_RB_> nah. theres a standard boot, a recovery boot, which fails on eth0 media plugger or something, and a memtest, and two xp boots. thats the only reason i can get on the web
[07:07] <Carpe_Libertatem> after I install fluxbox, how do I start it from cli?
[07:07] <breakthestate> startx  ?
[07:07] <dougsk> _RB_ use edit and then pick your kernel and then append init=/bin/bash or somesuch shoudl probably get you in remount rw / once you have a prompt
[07:08] <_RB_> once i get a prompt i'll just apt-get the bugger off my system
[07:08] <mbpillai> uncommend the lines  1.  deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted   2. deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted and 3. deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restrictedricted  save the file issue the command apt-get update apt-get install      xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:08] <Trashcan> if ubuntu is meant to be an easy, more user-friendly distro, then why does it start vsFTPd and an SMTP daemon on a clean install?
[07:08] <tritium> you can edit the boot parameters in the grub console
[07:08] <Trashcan> rather non-user-friendly to open holes right off the bat
[07:08] <tritium> It doesn't start ftpd of any kind, Trashcan
[07:08] <bob2> tritium: it doesn't
[07:08] <bob2> er
[07:08] <bob2> Trashcan: no, it doesn't do either of those things
[07:09] <kaging> where could i see the pppoe.conf in ubuntu live cd?
[07:09] <Trashcan> i scanned myself, 21 and 25 open
[07:09] <_RB_> k. i'll try that
[07:09] <bob2> Trashcan: because you installed vsftpd
[07:09] <Trashcan> on a clean install
[07:09] <tritium> no way
[07:09] <bob2> Trashcan: and configured psotfix to listen on that
[07:09] <bob2> Trashcan: no, that is not the case
[07:09] <Trashcan> is that postfix on 25?
[07:09] <_RB_> will i have to munt before i can apt-get ? the last command it boot, and it is the one that eventually stalls
[07:09] <dougsk> Trashcan, I think 25 is open to localhost so that hould be expected of scannning from the local, but I doubt 21
[07:10] <Trashcan> :\
[07:10] <bob2> Trashcan: presumably, but it only listens to things on the same machine by default
[07:10] <Trashcan> ahh, ok
[07:10] <_RB_> mount*
[07:11] <dougsk> _RB_, when booting single user the default is a read-only file system so you'll need to remount the partition containing /etc (ususally /) as writeable thus the remount
[07:11] <Trashcan> You guys must be right.. I probably picked an extra package or installed it in an auto-dep somewhere
[07:11] <pbutter> hey guys, is there a command i can type in to make it update to ubuntu breezy?
[07:11] <bob2> it's highly unlikely a change like that would slip through
[07:11] <jayr> after adding the repository wat do i need 2 do?
[07:11] <Trashcan> !tell pbutter about breezy
[07:11] <bob2> it was decided before warty that nothing would listen by default
[07:11] <_RB_> do i just put this instead of "boot", to ensure the kernel is in there etc ?
[07:11] <Trashcan> a good decision for sure..
[07:11] <bob2> pbutter: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[07:12] <pbutter> is there any particular advantage to breezy?
[07:12] <_RB_> i'll have a bash at it anyway
[07:12] <_RB_> cyas
[07:12] <_RB_> hopefully not from xp
[07:12] <Carpe_Libertatem> Ack, how can I apt-get fluxbox on a server installation? Flux isn't in default repos?
[07:12] <crimsun> it's in universe.
[07:13] <breakthestate> Trashcan: can you "tell" me about breezy too, (i have no clue about all these irc commands)
[07:13] <Trashcan> !tell breakthestate about breezy
[07:13] <Trashcan> :)
[07:13] <Trashcan> it's the ubotu bot
[07:13] <Trashcan> he's freakin wikid
[07:14] <s3[mn] rain> Hi, I have dual monitors with two x servers 0.0 and 0.1, is there anyway to move a window from one to the other while it is open?
[07:14] <breakthestate> holy $$#! that's cool
[07:14] <bob2> s3[mn] rain: no
[07:14] <bob2> s3[mn] rain: if you want that, use xinerama
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> s3[mn] rain,  hmm... you are the first to ask that :P that i have ever seen. Lol.
[07:14] <Trashcan> Does anyone know of a good working NASM syntax file for gnome?
[07:14] <Trashcan> for highlighting in gedit
[07:14] <breakthestate> s3: sure isn't, better just send me that other monitor, he he, jk, i'm not sure
[07:15] <Tiggs> how do i get java for ubuntu? firefox faills and it says i have to intall it manually
[07:15] <breakthestate> trashcan: can you !tell me more about the ubotu bot?
[07:15] <s3[mn] rain> bob2: ive tried every  combo of dual monitors lol, this is the only one that does what I want, so I guess I just forfeit that benefit
[07:15] <Trashcan> breakthestate: type /msg ubotu help
[07:15] <jayr> i added the univers repositry
[07:15] <jayr> wat do i need to do?
[07:16] <HappyFool> !tell Tiggs about java
[07:16] <bob2> Trashcan: emacs can
[07:16] <s3[mn] rain> if you put a ball of tinfoil into a bottle of hydrocloric acid, then you get java
[07:16] <jayr> wer is this fglrx-driver
[07:16] <ndisy> i accidently changed my permissions in ubuntu and now cannot run anything requiring root as i get " Child terminated with 1 status" any help?
[07:16] <iiiears> May i "Borrow" a working smb.conf?   pastebin?
[07:16] <jayr> wer is it located
[07:16] <Trashcan> bahhh emacs :p
[07:16] <mr_roboto> Tiggs: I don't know what the "right" ubuntu way is but I installed Sun's JDK and it works fine
[07:16] <s3[mn] rain> jayr: it should be in the ubuntu repositories
[07:17] <iiiears> do you have a link to a working config file?
[07:17] <Trashcan> iiiears: hang on
[07:17] <iiiears> Whew Thank You :)
[07:17] <MadpilotPPC> !tell breakthestate about ubotu
[07:17] <jayr> is dat the name
[07:18] <jayr> wen i search it thers nothing
[07:18] <s3[mn] rain> jayr: "fglrx"
[07:18] <ndisy> i accidently changed my permissions in ubuntu and now cannot run anything requiring root as i get " Child terminated with 1 status" any help?
[07:18] <yoink> hey all, im having so much trouble getting backports working, and im sure my sources.list is right, any ideas?
[07:18] <HappyFool> jayr: are you following the ati page on the wiki?
[07:18] <Trashcan> iiieas: http://trashes.pastebin.com/380271
[07:18] <Trashcan> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:19] <Trashcan> per default configuration
[07:19] <HappyFool> ndisy: how did you change your permissions?
[07:19] <MadpilotPPC> !tell yoink about backports
[07:19] <iiiears> Outstanding - thank you.
[07:19] <ndisy> with sudo chown -R
[07:19] <HappyFool> of what?
[07:19] <Trashcan> no problem iiiears
[07:19] <bob2> yoink: questions like that should be accompanied with urls to pastebin's showing us your sources.list and apt output
[07:20] <iiiears> sometimes configuring everything by text is great powerful - other days it just plain confusing
[07:20] <Carpe_Libertatem> How do I start xserver and flux?
[07:20] <libervisco> I'm missing qtmlClient.dll for playing a mov file
[07:20] <jayr> is it under xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[07:20] <jayr> X.Org X server
[07:21] <Trashcan> so how exactly do things get added to the universe? is there a !tell about that?
[07:21] <dallas> what is the command to figure out which kernel version you are running?
[07:21] <jayr> yes
[07:21] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: echo fluxbox > ~/.xsession ; startx
[07:21] <bob2> Trashcan: /j #ubuntu-motu
[07:21] <bob2> Trashcan: someone packages it, and someone from MOTU uploads it
[07:21] <HappyFool> dallas: uname -a
[07:21] <libervisco> Where could I find it? I tried searching in repositories (with synaptic) and google, but no luck
[07:21] <bob2> Trashcan: something not being in universe usually means it's crap, non-free or unpopular
[07:21] <Trashcan> ahhh ok
[07:21] <Trashcan> thanks
[07:21] <jayr> @happyfool yes i followed it always return this wen i type in terminal Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:21] <jayr> \
[07:21] <Trashcan> masters of the universe :p
[07:21] <Trashcan> nice
[07:22] <bob2> libervisco: that sounds highly unlikely to be in ubuntu
[07:22] <ndisy> any help HappyFool? i changed it with sudo chown -R
[07:22] <HappyFool> ndisy: what did you change?
[07:22] <bob2> libervisco: go find a w32codecs .deb
[07:22] <ndisy> my usr folder
[07:22] <jayr> why is dis flgrx-driver
[07:22] <jayr>  missing
[07:23] <Trashcan> this community rocks
[07:23] <jayr> wer is this located
[07:23] <Trashcan> everyone is helpful
[07:23] <Carpe_Libertatem> bob2, do you know the package name for the server?
[07:23] <Carpe_Libertatem> ;-)
[07:23] <Trashcan> especially bob
[07:23] <HappyFool> jayr: it's in 'restricted'; you need to setup your repositories
[07:23] <Carpe_Libertatem> xserver*
[07:23] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: server?
[07:23] <jayr> the universe 1?
[07:23] <mbpillai> try the command "apt-cache search  xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:23] <HappyFool> ndisy: hmm. ok, you'll probably need to reboot in rescue (or recovery) mode
[07:23] <bob2> jayr: ignore whatever web page you are reading
[07:23] <libervisco> bob2, ok.. thanks.. I'm looking for it now..
[07:23] <ndisy> and try sudo?
[07:23] <HappyFool> no, sudo is in /usr
[07:24] <ndisy> try sudo in recovery?
[07:24] <HappyFool> ndisy: in recovery mode you'll be root
[07:24] <HappyFool> ndisy: i.e., no need for sudo etc
[07:24] <ndisy> what should i do when im in?
[07:24] <HappyFool> ndisy: anyway, in recovery mode run 'chown -R root.root /usr'
[07:24] <ndisy> ok
[07:24] <HappyFool> then reboot and hope for the best
[07:24] <ndisy> thankyou
[07:24] <jayr> @mbpillai i typed it and return nothing
[07:24] <MadpilotPPC> bob2, the ATI wiki page doesn't have Breezy-specific info on it yet - I think that's what has jayr confused...
[07:25] <HappyFool> i'm not sure if every file in /usr is supposed to be owned by root, but that's about the best i can do -- i think there are over 100,000 files in /usr, so fixing manually won't work
[07:25] <mbpillai> jayr: modify /etc/apt/sources.list file  and issue the command "apt-get update"
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> heh - i just got ati working today on my X200m laptop with Breezy. took 3 min.
[07:25] <bob2> if you screwed /usr, reinstall
[07:25] <Trashcan> hehe
[07:25] <Carpe_Libertatem> What is the package name for the Xserver?
[07:25] <bob2> and be way way way more carefulin future
[07:25] <HappyFool> too late, he left
[07:25] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: install x-window-system-core
[07:26] <Trashcan> dr_willis: its fairly straightforward. Unfortunately my card is too old to be supported :)
[07:26] <jayr> ok
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Trashcan,  last month mine was too new to be supported. :P
[07:27] <Trashcan> :p
[07:27] <joetheodd> Hey, I just tried using JuK and it won't play at all.
[07:27] <Trashcan> this is a junker laptop
[07:27] <Trashcan> compaq armada m700
[07:27] <Trashcan> but i got it free from microsoft, so its a linux box now :)
[07:27] <chavo> joetheodd, try kicking it.
[07:27] <joetheodd> chavo: I'm afraid I'll hurt my toe. My box is made of metal, you know. =(
[07:28] <chavo> joetheodd, do you use gnome or KDE?
[07:28] <joetheodd> chavo: gnome
[07:29] <gpd> err... wtf with the repositories?
[07:29] <chavo> try going to Settings -> Output To -> and then click Gstreamer
[07:29] <s3[mn] rain> gpd: err? what do you speak of?
[07:29] <jayr> @mbpillai how do i modify the sources.list?
[07:29] <crimsun> gpd: apache probably died again.
[07:29] <gpd> I seem to be getting connection refused on us.archive.
[07:29] <StoneTable> same here
[07:30] <joetheodd> chavo: still nothing.
[07:30] <Trashcan> so do the devs actually come here?
[07:30] <joetheodd> StoneTable and gpd: I think their down.
[07:30] <joetheodd> jayr: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:31] <crimsun> Trashcan: yes.
[07:31] <joetheodd> Trashcan: I think they might, but its open tech support. I don't work for ubuntu
[07:31] <breakthestate> Trash: my favorite things are junker laptops, have three (didn't pay over $50 for any of them) and all linux boxes now
[07:31] <mbpillai> gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  (you should have root permissions for that)
[07:31] <Trashcan> :D
[07:32] <Trashcan> I love the open-ness of linux
[07:32] <joetheodd> mbpillai: You might want to prepend messages with the name their targeted at, because most IRC clients give some notification if your name is said
[07:32] <MadpilotPPC> !tell jayr about repos
[07:32] <Trashcan> even the communities are open
[07:32] <joetheodd> Does anyone here have experience with JuK not playing at all with both arts and gsteamer?
[07:32] <HappyFool> ndisy: after you left, bob2 recommended a reinstall
[07:33] <Trashcan> aye
[07:33] <breakthestate> i just got gmplayer working as a plugin in firefox, but am running into problems when streams are javascript links, any tips?
[07:33] <ndisy> reinstall? can i keep any files?
[07:33] <ormandj> any ldap gurus around? i'm trying to design a nice setup and i've not used LDAP before from the administrative perspective, and want to make sure i'm not screwing up. i've got the o'reilly book but it turned out not to be such a huge help..
[07:33] <yoink> !tell yoink sources.list
[07:34] <ndisy> will it save my settings?
[07:34] <oblivian_nixx> ccc.rizon.neet
[07:34] <yoink> !tell yoink about sources.list
[07:34] <HappyFool> ndisy: no, you'll need to back your personal files up
[07:34] <ormandj> oh yea, and the archives seem to be down again :P
[07:34] <ndisy> ok, maybe ill just wait till breezy badger untill i reinstall
[07:34] <ndisy> thanx anyway
[07:34] <thoreauputic> !tell yoink about sources
[07:34] <yoink> thoreauputic, thx
[07:35] <thoreauputic> yoink: np :)
[07:35] <joetheodd_> wee
[07:35] <joetheodd> yo whats up self?
[07:35] <joetheodd> =)
[07:36] <Trashcan> wow
[07:36] <Trashcan> an op
[07:36] <Trashcan> 1 op out of 470 people... you must be proud
[07:36] <joetheodd> omg pheer.. op.. MUST.. /BOW!!!
[07:36] <snausages> how can i create a new partition to backup my files?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> Trashcan: we hide most of the time ;)
[07:36] <Trashcan> hehe
[07:36] <MadpilotPPC> Trashcan, our ops tend to lurk...
[07:36] <joetheodd> snausages: Thats a big risky thing to do, asuming the space is already partitioned
[07:36] <ivoks> uh
[07:37] <Trashcan> very risky
[07:37] <joetheodd> snausages: I asume you want to shrink a partition in order to make a new one out of its space?
[07:37] <ivoks> lots of people
[07:37] <Trashcan> does ubuntu have a built in partition-magic type app?
[07:37] <Trashcan> for resizing
[07:37] <yarddog> why would i being get apt-get update, connection refused for breezy?
[07:37] <snausages> joetheodd yes
[07:37] <joetheodd> snausages: You probably want to go out and buy a 10GB disk, they're down to like 20 bucks
[07:37] <fizdev> hi, is it me or the repositories are down?
[07:37] <HappyFool> yarddog: there have been reports of us.archive being down
[07:37] <thoreauputic> yarddog: it seems the us archive has issues ATM
[07:37] <joetheodd> yarddog fizdev: The repositorys are down.
[07:37] <yarddog> ahhh, ok thx
[07:37] <snausages> i was hoping i could ge by without investing money hehe
[07:38] <ivoks> thoreauputic: all archives
[07:38] <fizdev> alright, thanks
[07:38] <joetheodd> thoreauptic: Wanna put that in the topic?
[07:38] <jayr> is the fglrx included in the xserver-xorg-driver ati
[07:38] <thoreauputic> ivoks: oh really ? hmm
[07:38] <vladuz976> is there a documentation to ubuntu, something like redhat and novell has?
[07:38] <ali4728> courier-imap Port 143 wont respond to remote client even though firewall is open! Any idea why?
[07:38] <none_-> are the breezy repositories down?
[07:38] <joetheodd> snausages: Well, I have extra disks laying arround =p
[07:38] <joetheodd> none_-: Yes.
[07:38] <HappyFool> jayr: on hoary, it's in the xorg-driver-fglrx package; i don't know about breezy
[07:38] <none_-> danb
[07:38] <snausages> joetheodd you should dcc one to me
[07:38] <none_-> damn that is
[07:39] <joetheodd> snausages: I mean physical hard disks =p
[07:39] <jayr> i cant find it in breezy
[07:39] <mbpillai> jayr: no it is a seperate module
[07:39] <snausages> joetheodd haha i'm aware of that
[07:39] <snausages> =D
[07:39] <joetheodd> snausages: Hah, ok
[07:39] <jayr> can u guide me how to get dat module
[07:39] <jayr> wer is it located or how can i get it
[07:39] <snausages> i guess im just gonna burn to cd
[07:40] <joetheodd> jayr: when the repositiorys are back up, you should do sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx in a console.
[07:40] <joetheodd> er, sudo should be bold too, but oh well.
[07:40] <breakthestate> but back to this partition resizing thing, is it possible on ubuntu? and what with?
[07:40] <mbpillai> jayr : switch to a direct chat
[07:41] <joetheodd> breakthestate: Look into partition-magic. It can shrink a partition, but its risky
[07:41] <joetheodd> breakthestate: What partition type do you use? ext3?
[07:41] <mr_roboto> breakthestate: you could try parted
[07:41] <joetheodd> breakthestate: I'm pretty sure it supports ext2, but I don't know about 3.
[07:41] <joetheodd> brb grabbing some sammichz~
[07:42] <nomasteryoda> joetheodd, sure parted does.. since gparted is just a fancy frontend and can be installed in ubuntu
[07:42] <nomasteryoda> ext3 support that is
[07:43] <zwnj> security.ubuntu.com refuses http connections.  what's the problem?
[07:44] <ali4728> Help courier-imap Port 143 wont respond to remote client even though firewall is open! Any idea why?
[07:44] <thoreauputic> zwnj: servers are down - investigating
[07:44] <zwnj> thoreauputic: uhu, thanks
[07:44] <MadpilotPPC> archive.ubuntu and security seem to be down
[07:44] <aeruder> er... archive.ubuntu.com down?
[07:44] <aeruder> ok, that answers that
[07:45] <zwnj> putting a note in the topic is good ;)
[07:45] <difeta> i'm trying to update my sources, but I keep getting an error connection refused. Is something goingon?
[07:45] <MadpilotPPC> difeta, repo servers are down...
[07:45] <crimsun> use a mirror.
[07:45] <difeta> MadpilotPPC, ahh man, is one of the mirros up?
[07:45] <crimsun> wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[07:45] <Trashcan> woot... I made a change to the wiki
[07:45] <Trashcan> I feel helpful now :)
[07:46] <MadpilotPPC> !+mirror
[07:46] <ubotu> somebody said mirror was repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[07:49] <nybble> repos down again?
[07:49] <rjordan> Anyone else having trouble fetching packages? I keep getting... nvm....
[07:50] <dmlinux> Anyone else having problems updating repositories??
[07:50] <rjordan> nybble, I guess so...
[07:50] <rjordan> can a mod update the topic pls?
[07:50] <hans> are other scanner programs available than Sane, because Sane cannot find my scanner
[07:51] <CruzBulli> I have about webmin and apache2....
[07:51] <dmlinux> Anyone here experienced in bluetooth mice and Ubuntu?
[07:51] <CruzBulli> where is the "Path to httpd executable" ?
[07:51] <Trashcan> doesn't the sudo deal break webmin?
[07:51] <CruzBulli> doesn't help it
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Trashcan,  i  think if you make a root user password - befor you install webmin - you will be ok.
[07:52] <Trashcan> ah
[07:52] <Trashcan> alright
[07:52] <difeta> anybody  know of an apt source that has mythtv?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> the sudo deal also breaks a few other thigs I think. :P
[07:52] <MadpilotPPC> hans, have you googled your scanner or checked the SANE homepage?
[07:52] <Trashcan> one would imagine ;)
[07:52] <CruzBulli> how do I do that? Sorry really newbie here
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> Trashcan,  some of the breakage is due to ubuntu guys being security paranoid. :P
[07:52] <dmlinux> Anyone here experienced in bluetooth mice and Ubuntu?
[07:52] <Trashcan> hehe
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> Trashcan,  ever try the CUPS web interface yet?
[07:53] <mikerhead> breezy's got mythtv
[07:53] <Trashcan> personally I like the sudo idea very much
[07:53] <hans> yes I have, my scanner is unsupported by Sane
[07:53] <Trashcan> nope
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> Trashcan,  you can look but not change anything. :(
[07:53] <Trashcan> I found it strange today, I rebooted in recovery mode and was dropped to a root term !?
[07:53] <dmlinux> Anyone else having problems updating repositories??
[07:53] <hondje> That's normal
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. dident think it did that.
[07:53] <zwnj> how i can setup a mirror?
[07:53] <hondje> root's not gone
[07:53] <Trashcan> I havn't set a root password yet
[07:53] <hondje> you can sudo -s and get a root shell too
[07:53] <Trashcan> and I wasn't planning on it
[07:53] <hondje> You don't need one :)
[07:54] <Trashcan> yeah hondje
[07:54] <deFrysk> dmlinux, yes I changed http yo ftp and it worked fine again
[07:54] <Trashcan> (afaik sudo -i is cleaner, as it sets root env vars)
[07:54] <deFrysk> to*
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> Trashcan,  i use the 'sux' command :P for my su'ing needs
[07:54] <Trashcan> lol
[07:54] <hondje> I think the logic there is, if physical security is a concern, booting into root is low on the worry list
[07:55] <Trashcan> at least it's well protected from things like buffer overflows
[07:55] <hans> I am sorry, my scanner is NOT supported by Sane
[07:56] <gp_aaron> what is up with the servers?
[07:56] <rjordan> god-zero, they are down...
[07:56] <Trashcan> the word around town is down
[07:56] <glauc> Hey guys, whats a good cheap hardware SATA raid card?
[07:56] <mikerhead> fr.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be up
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> They are Down like .... somthing thats really down...
[07:56] <CruzBulli> "The Apache configuration file /etc/apache2//conf/httpd.conf does not exist."
[07:56] <CruzBulli> what is it giving me that?
[07:57] <ormandj> CruzBulli, because it doesn't exist? :) ls /etc/apache2/conf
[07:57] <liable> well, as far as i can determine a sendmail entry in /etc/hosts.allow was fuxoring my exim local deliveries..
[07:57] <liable> oops
[07:58] <CruzBulli> ok, but that doesn't work either
[07:59] <dmlinux> Why is hidd-connect <address> giving me a HID create error?
[07:59] <fr33mind> Do you have some problems to apt-get update?
[07:59] <dmlinux> me? yes
[07:59] <fr33mind> ok I'm not alone so..
[08:00] <Trashcan> fr33mind: the servers are down
[08:00] <ksmurf> Is there anyone using kubuntu here?
[08:00] <nybble> use http://opensourcemirrors.org/ubuntu instead
[08:00] <nybble> thats all i'm saying
[08:00] <fr33mind> Is there mirror for security.ubuntu....
[08:01] <fr33mind> I used fr.archive.... but for security?
[08:01] <rjordan> the servers do seem to be up if you want to use ftp.
[08:02] <rjordan> speaking of which, anyone know where to put these downloaded packages so apt will install them?
[08:02] <mark> Hey guys I am new to linux and, du, unbuntu. I messed up my synaptic when I tried to add multiverse / universe repositories. I get this amoung other similar errors. W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:02] <nybble> fr33mind: http://opensourcemirrors.org/ubuntu
[08:02] <nybble> fr33mind: has them all
[08:03] <dmlinux> Why is hidd-connect <address> giving me a HID create error?
[08:03] <fr33mind> good thanks... ftp work ;)
[08:03] <WinZ> marcellus, the servers are down for a while
[08:03] <WinZ> mark, the servers are down for a while
[08:03] <hondje> mark: the site is down, it's not you
[08:03] <CruzBulli> so where is the "Path to httpd executable" ?
[08:03] <dewd> what happened to the servers? any idea?
[08:04] <rjordan> CruzBulli, if it's in your PATH you can do which httpd to find out
[08:04] <mark> WinZ and Hondje thanks for the answer. I was worried I was an idiot! Why are they down? Planned or crashed?
[08:04] <CruzBulli> not sure I understand that
[08:05] <rjordan> CruzBulli, in a terminal type "which httpd" and it may print out the full path to your httpd binary
[08:05] <CruzBulli> ok
[08:05] <jay-ar> r d ubuntu servers down?
[08:05] <CruzBulli> thanks
[08:06] <gp_aaron> ths is bad
[08:06] <gp_aaron> I just turned a kid onto ubuntu
[08:06] <Trashcan> why is that bad
[08:06] <Trashcan> :D
[08:06] <gp_aaron> and now he's trying to set up
[08:06] <hondje> someone should topic about the servers
[08:06] <gp_aaron> but he cant
[08:06] <Trashcan> oh boy
[08:06] <Trashcan> :\
[08:06] <rjordan> are there any OPS?
[08:06] <gp_aaron> cause he can't install anything
[08:06] <hondje> !ops
[08:06] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[08:06] <Trashcan> right when the servers go down
[08:06] <Trashcan> that sucks
[08:06] <Trashcan> tell him to have faith :)
[08:06] <blumer> hehehe, well that answers the question I came in here for. :)
[08:06] <hans> can somebody help with a parallel port scanner
[08:07] <gp_aaron> I told him, " look it is 2 am, go to sleep, try in the morning:)"
[08:07] <Trashcan> hehe
[08:07] <jrattner1> i know this is weird question to ask, does anyone know if you can watch live NFL games on the internet
[08:07] <Trashcan> pff 2am... that's nothin!
[08:07] <hondje> jrattner1: off nfl.com?
[08:07] <Trashcan> jrattner: nfl.com?
[08:07] <fabbione> ??
[08:07] <hondje> If so, yes you can
[08:07] <mark> So what is up with the servers?
[08:08] <iiiears> mark,  this is a working sources list http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/380286
[08:08] <rjordan> mark, I DoSed them with my 1337 windows botnet.
[08:08] <mark> iiiears, what is that for?
[08:08] <fabbione> amen
[08:08] <fabbione> mark: they are just down...
[08:08] <mark> rjordan, ha ha ha
[08:08] <fabbione> nothing to be worried about
[08:08] <rjordan> iiiears, TY
[08:09] <iiiears> mark, - thought you said your sources list was munged.
[08:09] <Trashcan> !tell me about colonies
[08:09] <mark> iiiears, I said I kept getting an error with synaptic and i was told it was b/c the servers are down. If I keep getting it when they come back up I will ask again
[08:09] <hondje> !tell me about colonies
[08:09] <hondje> !colonies
[08:09] <ubotu> hondje: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[08:09] <mark> iiiears, thanks for the help though
[08:10] <Trashcan> !tell me about colony
[08:10] <iiiears> ah, okay. - grin
[08:10] <hondje> sarcastic little thing
[08:10] <hondje> !colony
[08:10] <WinZ> !help
[08:10] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, hondje
[08:10] <jrattner1> hondje, you can on NFL.com?
[08:10] <hondje> jrattner1: yes
[08:10] <hondje> jrattner1: you need to add things, though...default install won't let you
[08:11] <hondje> Specifically, the w32codecs package
[08:11] <eythian> hi, anyone know how to make kmail show up looking nice while running Gnome?
[08:11] <jrattner1> hondje, are you sure you can watch live feeds? I.E the jets game tomorrow
[08:11] <Trashcan> !+mirrors
[08:11] <ubotu> Trashcan: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:11] <Trashcan> !+mirror
[08:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, mirror is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:11] <gp_aaron> hopefully the servers are up by tomorrow
[08:12] <hondje> jrattner1: I've never had a problem with the video on their site
[08:12] <ormandj> any reason the repositories are so unstable?
[08:12] <gp_aaron> I'd hate to see another user turned off cause it didn't work right away
[08:12] <gp_aaron> sadly I left ubuntu awhile back
[08:12] <CruzBulli> in webmin what file do they mean by apache "Path to httpd executable" I still don't understand
[08:12] <hondje> jrattner1: But I haven't watched a live feed in a long time, so if they changed to something really weird I can't guarantee it...but if you have all the video stuff installed, it 'should' be just fine
[08:13] <hondje> I can guarantee it worked the last time I used it, last season
[08:13] <ormandj> CruzBulli, tell it the location to apache's binary/executable
[08:13] <jrattner1> hondje, could you offer me a link, I have all the video stuff im just curious where to get the feed
[08:13] <rjordan> if you're in the midwest http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu/ is a good mirror.
[08:14] <blumer> hey!
[08:14] <blumer> Are they working again?
[08:15] <blumer> oh, no ...
[08:15] <hondje> jrattner1: it was subscription only IIRC
[08:15] <blumer> I just forgot what I was doing. :\
[08:15] <CruzBulli> (ormandj) CruzBulli, tell it the location to apache's binary/executable sorry but where would I find that?
[08:15] <hondje> they're all hosted on some level3 farm though, so probably can get it if you know someone
[08:15] <jrattner1> holycow, where can i subscribe
[08:16] <ormandj> if anybody is in hawaii i have a mirror i run :P
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> CruzBulli, /etc/init.d/apache2
[08:16] <ormandj> wickedpuppy, that's not the binary i think
[08:16] <CruzBulli> The Apache configuration file /etc/apache2/conf/httpd.conf does not exist.
[08:17] <CruzBulli> so it's adding the httpd.conf
[08:17] <wickedpuppy> ormandj, then how you start stop and restart apache2 from command line ?
[08:17] <ormandj> wickedpuppy, in ubuntu, you use that init script you linked to.
[08:17] <ormandj> but that's not the executable :P
[08:18] <ormandj> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/  <-- go here CruzBulli
[08:18] <CruzBulli> thanks
[08:18] <MachineScrew> can any one tell me what happened with the mirrors
[08:18] <crimsun> archive's back.
[08:18] <Trashcan> machine: they were down
[08:18] <MachineScrew> they back
[08:19] <Trashcan> anyone hear a cause yet?
[08:19] <crimsun> apache2 down.
[08:19] <crimsun> anyhow, nothing to see, move along.
[08:19] <iiiears> CruzBulli - check this out - a very sophisticated server setup made simple step by step.  http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2005-09-26-008-26-OS-HL-SV
[08:19] <Trashcan> :p
[08:19] <Trashcan> *removes mirror from repos*
[08:19] <Cicakman> is it only me that  http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net  repository is not working?
[08:20] <aizatto> Ubuntu should have a website displaying the live status of repositories
[08:20] <hondje> not a bad idea
[08:21] <CruzBulli> thanks a lot iiiears
[08:22] <cevizoglu> aizatto, why don't you write a bash script that does it...
[08:22] <ormandj> cevizoglu, a bash script doesn't help everybody :)
[08:23] <Trashcan> heh
[08:23] <Trashcan> someone wanna give me a list of all the repos?
[08:23] <cevizoglu> ormandj, why, because some people have removed bash?
[08:23] <kairu0> anyone recommend or not recommend serpentine for making audio cd?
[08:23] <ormandj> cevizoglu, because a lot of users aren't sitting at console? :)
[08:23] <aizatto> cevizoglu: because some people dont want to learn bash :)
[08:23] <cevizoglu> ormandj, then write a front-end for it too
[08:23] <aizatto> or dont want to use bash
[08:23] <Trashcan> just do it in php
[08:23] <Trashcan> geeze
[08:23] <Trashcan> :p
[08:23] <Trashcan> !repos
[08:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:23] <ormandj> cevizoglu, why not just have a simple website that shows status. that's less work programming, more accesible, and no need to add more utilities to the repository
[08:24] <ormandj> best solution for a job <-- ideal way to design
[08:24] <aizatto> yeah
[08:24] <cevizoglu> aizatto, you don't have to know bash to know how to run scripts
[08:24] <iiiears> sh   don't tell everyone that. - grin
[08:24] <cevizoglu> ormandj, you really think a web site which does that is easier than a bash script?
[08:25] <ormandj> cevizoglu, let's make an example. user A sees update notification, user A clicks to start it, it bombs with errors. user A isn't going to fire up a term, nor know the path to a bash script to check port 80 responses on repository. user a's (most likely) first response will be to visit ubuntulinux.org and check for news/status/etc
[08:25] <ormandj> cevizoglu, and yes, maybe 5 lines of php would work? about the same as 5 lines of bash script?
[08:25] <ormandj> with 10 you could make it record history even, ohhhh ;)
[08:26] <hondje> there, filed it as a feature request for the ubuntu website :)
[08:26] <aizatto> woot
[08:26] <ormandj> cool hondje :) maybe i'll go write something in a few mins to do it
[08:27] <CruzBulli> thanks for the help
[08:27] <cevizoglu> ormandj, only five lines?  should take you only a few minutes then.. care to show me these five lines?
[08:27] <ormandj> no problem CruzBulli, best wishes!
[08:27] <ormandj> cevizoglu, yes, as i said i think i will in a few mins :) i'm eating ATM
[08:27] <cevizoglu> ormandj, ok, I'll wait here...
[08:27] <iiiears> Windows Users... Linux Community
[08:27] <aizatto> well then how about having both a bash script and a webpage for it :) and on the webpage you can link to the bash script
[08:27] <hondje> you' dneed a long line for all the country codes to substitute in *archive, but it wouldn't be a big script
[08:28] <hondje> It'd be nice on a webpage
[08:28] <hondje> that way when someone comes in here having problems, and no one else is using their countries repos (not unreasonable), we can look and narrow down the problem
[08:29] <iiiears> someone might refresh the page repeatedly and slow the server?
[08:29] <brownie17> can someone tell me a program for converting avi to mpeg?
[08:29] <PsyBort> does anyone know the command to check the kernel version?
[08:30] <ormandj> cevizoglu, actually, how convienent. php's website had a simple little example already written! whee ;)
[08:30] <dmlinux> i need some help guys
[08:30] <ormandj> brb while i go make some changes
[08:30] <hondje> lol
[08:30] <CruX_> hi which is the fastest wau to install nvidia drivers ?
[08:30] <hondje> PsyBort: uname -a
[08:30] <hondje> CruX_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:30] <hondje> then edit the xorg.conf file
[08:31] <PsyBort> thanks hondje
[08:31] <CruX_> manualy ?
[08:31] <CruX_> damn ok
[08:31] <dmlinux> Everytime i try to connect to my Bluetooth mouse, it says Permission denied, or no host, or connection refused
[08:31] <eythian> Crux_: unless your monitor params are misdetected, you don't need to edit xorg.conf
[08:32] <dmlinux> anyone deal with BT mice here
[08:32] <hondje> CruX_: there's a way to magically do it, but I don't trust it
[08:32] <dmlinux> Everytime i try to connect to my Bluetooth mouse, it says Permission denied, or no host, or connection refused
[08:32] <dmlinux> whats the problem?
[08:32] <dmlinux> it was working this morning !
[08:33] <ppcguy> hey all
[08:34] <dmlinux> hey
[08:34] <ppcguy> how goes it dmlinux?
[08:35] <PsyBort> another question, output says 2.6.8.1-3-386 . from that whats the version and whats the build ie. confused about the -3-386.
[08:35] <brownie17> how do i convert AVI to mpeg. is there a seperate support channel for video editing and shit?
[08:35] <hondje> PsyBort: 3 is a build thing, unimportant, and 386 means it's x86 version
[08:35] <dmlinux> Everytime i try to connect to my Bluetooth mouse, it says Permission denied, or no host, or connection refused, does anyone know what this means !
[08:35] <hondje> are you using warty, PsyBort?
[08:36] <dmlinux> sorry for repeat, just need a answer
[08:36] <ormandj> cevizoglu, http://files.corenode.com/ubuntu/
[08:36] <ormandj> done
[08:36] <dmlinux> ah what the hell, its working now.. wtf
[08:36] <ormandj> it'd be trivial to add a small loop to test all repositories
[08:36] <ndazza> hi! i'm trying to get the binary ati drivers working. I've followed the instructions on the wiki but I can't get direct rendering to work
[08:36] <ormandj> and also make the messages user friendly
[08:36] <iiiears> brownie - i have heard some people use kino for editing. - have yet to try it.
[08:37] <cevizoglu> ormandj, so how many lines of code?
[08:37] <hondje> dmlinux: glad to have helped ;-)
[08:37] <ndazza> in Xorg.0.log there are these two lines: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM"
[08:37] <ndazza> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[08:37] <ormandj> minus all html, 10
[08:37] <ormandj> and i could easily fit it in 5
[08:38] <brownie17> iiiears, for some reason it is giving me errors when i try to open a video file!
[08:38] <ormandj> now, your turn. write a bash script which checks if port 80 is responding to a proper html 1.1 request for us.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:38] <cevizoglu> ormandj, good job... I've been thinking about this, though.. shouldn't the updater just tell you that the server is down?
[08:38] <hondje> it does
[08:38] <hondje> people just don't read error messages, they freak out and think they broke something
[08:38] <cevizoglu> hondje, but shouldn't it also try to find another server for you?
[08:38] <iiiears> I wish i could offer you more help...
[08:38] <hondje> hrm
[08:39] <cevizoglu> hondje, but apt-get doesn't..
[08:39] <hondje>  /etc/apt/mirrors or something
[08:39] <ormandj> cevizoglu, it's a possibility for the future of course, make a suggestion
[08:39] <hondje> that'd be a good thing
[08:39] <Pablo_C> w00t got me sr2 wifi card workin in ubuntu
[08:40] <hondje> ndazza: googling implies that's a bug within the ATI code
[08:40] <ndazza> hondje: ok thanks, I might try the latest version from the ATI site. I've read so many forum posts with no luck whatsoever :(
[08:42] <eythian> Is there a nice way to get all the updates that have been put out since (say) Hoary was released? Just the updates, and not the stuff already on the CD. I'll probably be upgrading my folks to Ubuntu, but they have a bad net connection, and me posting or bringing a CD every once in a while would be a better way.
[08:43] <ormandj> eythian, check for file changes between cd from hoary and cd from breezy, and copy those over?
[08:43] <iiiears> CLI tool to see bandwidth used in real time?
[08:44] <hondje> eythian: easy way, sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -d dist-upgrade on a clean install from a hoary CD
[08:44] <ormandj> er, sorry misread. check for file changes between cd from hoary and repository from hoary now
[08:44] <eythian> hmm. You mean diff the online repositories against the install CD? I suppose that would work.
[08:44] <hondje> eythian: then copy all the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:44] <none_-> ah.. repositories are back online
[08:44] <ormandj> eythian, well if you are trying to build an "update" cd, yes, do that
[08:45] <eythian> hondje: unfortunately, that's not really an option. it would require keeping my desktop in pretty close sync with theirs.
[08:45] <hondje> oh, for more than just once then....do they have broadband?
[08:45] <eythian> yeah, effectively an update CD.
[08:45] <dmlinux> How do you change permissions on a file so that it is executable ??
[08:45] <eythian> hondje: no, they have hourly-metered 20k on a good day, drops out every 30 minutes dialup.
[08:46] <eythian> Hence the need :)
[08:46] <hondje> an interesting problem
[08:46] <eythian> dmlinux: chmod +x file
[08:46] <aizatto> eythian: you can have them mirror your apt repository on your computer lalso
[08:46] <cevizoglu> eythian, what you're looking for is apt-zip, I think
[08:46] <iiiears> interesting one line bash script upgrade info http://www.linuxforu.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1074
[08:46] <eythian> my computer is 2.5 hrs drive away :)
[08:47] <eythian> hmm. apt-zip looks like what I need, looking at the summary. Cheers cevizoglu.
[08:48] <hondje> that's pretty neat
[08:48] <cevizoglu> eythian, yw
[08:49] <eythian> hrm, any idea why I'm getting a lot of: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" from apt-get?
[08:49] <ppcguy> hey all, not to jump in here, but is there a good resource for getting all things flux working with ubuntu?
[08:49] <hondje> eythian: backports?
[08:49] <mae> the new menu log is wicked cool!
[08:50] <eythian> I don't _think_ so. it claims to be in section universe/admin, tho I do have backports in my souces.list
[08:50] <PsyBort> how do u link the kernel source to the modules directory?
[08:50] <dmlinux> how do i change a file to be executable if chmod +x <file> doesnt work
[08:51] <brownie17> is sourceforge a linux only website?
[08:51] <PsyBort> rather how do u link the modules directory to the kernel source?
[08:51] <HappyFool> PsyBort: you probably want to install the linux-headers-386 package
[08:51] <aizatto> dmlinux: why doenst it work?
[08:51] <aizatto> brownie17: no
[08:51] <hondje> brownie17: no
[08:51] <hondje> microsoft has stuff on sf
[08:51] <ormandj> where is epiphany? is it not in the default install?
[08:51] <hondje> ormandj: nope :(
[08:51] <dmlinux> aizatto it says operation not permitted, i have no idea why it doesnt work
[08:51] <bz0b> hey guys
[08:51] <calvin> question for anyone, is it poaab le for a bad processor to fry a motherboard
[08:51] <hondje> dmlinux: how is it not working?
[08:51] <cevizoglu> dmlinux, use sudo
[08:51] <bz0b> what program plays m4p format?
[08:51] <HappyFool> dmlinux: what does 'file filename' tell you?
[08:51] <Yagisan> calvin: yes
[08:51] <PsyBort> happyfool, where can i find this package?
[08:51] <aizatto> dmlinux: try using `sudo chmod +x <file>`
[08:51] <dmlinux> ooo
[08:51] <hondje> whoa, lagfu
[08:51] <HappyFool> PsyBort: should be on the CD
[08:51] <PsyBort> tick.
[08:51] <HappyFool> PsyBort: err, at least i think so
[08:52] <PsyBort> ill check
[08:52] <dmlinux> gotcha thanks all , brb
[08:52] <ppcguy> PsyBort. apt-get install epiphany works fine
[08:52] <bz0b> hey, does anyone know what media player plays m4p format?
[08:52] <calvin> then is it possable for that same motherboard after that happening fry a processor?
[08:52] <hondje> !tell bz0b about restricted
[08:52] <aizatto> bz0b: vlc
[08:52] <brownie17> hondje, when sourceforge says it is a repository, does that mean it is a repo i can add for ubuntu through /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:53] <hondje> brownie17: that's not what they mean
[08:53] <Yagisan> calvin: I don't know - couldn't afford a new cpu to test
[08:53] <aizatto> brownie17: nope, its a repository for free and open source projects, repository being a place meaning like a holding location
[08:53] <PsyBort> happyfool, can i use synaptic to install the headers package?
[08:53] <brownie17> hondje, how can i search through sourceforge for only lniux programs?
[08:53] <HappyFool> PsyBort: yip
[08:53] <PsyBort> cheers
[08:54] <calvin> so basicly I just need to return everything and start over?
[08:54] <Yagisan> Yagisan: I'd be inclined to think - yes - it is possible for the broken M/B to damage a new CPU
[08:54] <HappyFool> PsyBort: make sure you install the version for your kernel (i said -386; might be -686 or something else)
[08:54] <hondje> brownie17: the odds are that if it's a fairly well developed project and not something made in two nights by a drunk CS student, it's included in the ubuntu repositories...and secondly if it's on sourceforge, the odds are it'll run on linux anyway :)
[08:54] <PsyBort> thanks for the tip happy.
[08:55] <Yagisan> calvin: I'd be inclined to think - yes - it is possible for the broken M/B to damage a new CPU. Try to get an exchange
[08:55] <calvin> my sinareo is that my computer stopped, bought a new motherboard, didn't work, boutght a new processor, didn't work, bought new ram, didn't work, replaced power supply, didn't work and bypassed power button
[08:55] <Tachyon> I'm trying to get Ubuntu to print over a wireless network to a printer that's hooked up to an XP machine.  Yet no matter how I configure the printer, it can't "connect to the host," hence I can't get it to print anything.
[08:56] <ppcguy> I would have returned the original long before doing all that calvin
[08:56] <Yagisan> calvin: what CPU ?
[08:56] <calvin> Duron 1.8 g
[08:56] <calvin> replaved with athlon xp 2600
[08:56] <brownie17> hondje, ok so, if i found a thing called mjpeg/linux square, and it is a compilation of different programs, which one would be a video editing program out of the following, "driver-zoran", "MainActor plugin", "mjpegtools", "mmx jpeg", "mpeg2dec-mjpegtools"?
[08:57] <hondje> not a clue :)
[08:57] <Yagisan> calvin: did you make sure you where electrically grounded before installing the CPU ?
[08:57] <opensource> how do i enable ssh in this distro?
[08:57] <calvin> yes, I have a static strap
[08:57] <hondje> mmx jpeg sounds like mmx optimizations to read jpegs faster, mpeg2dec sounds like a converter (usual in linux when you got '2' in the name), etc
[08:58] <bam_> anyone know some decent ipod software?
[08:58] <HaNazir> anyone else having issues with gaim disconnecting the whole time?
[08:58] <brownie17> hondje, so i want to convert an avi file to an mpeg file, know what i could do?
[08:58] <HappyFool> !tell opensource about ssh
[08:58] <bz0b> so when i pay this royalty fee, is it for each song?
[08:58] <hondje> use transcode?
[08:59] <Yagisan> calvin: you didn't accidently crack the cpu core on installing ? (athlon/duron cores are rather fragile)
[08:59] <bz0b> hondje, what
[08:59] <bz0b> nvm
[08:59] <hondje> not for you, for brownie17 :p
[08:59] <bz0b> :P
[08:59] <Yagisan> calvin: No overheating issues ?
[08:59] <calvin> didn't touch it at all
[08:59] <calvin> not a bit
[08:59] <brownie17> hondje, ok thankyou
[08:59] <ksmurf> how do you check for how fast your proc is running in terminal?
[09:00] <calvin> I have sensors in my case to monitor that and none were outsie spec
[09:00] <HappyFool> ksmurf: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:00] <ksmurf> thanks
[09:01] <hondje> I also hate watching ffmpeg and mplayer build....horrors
[09:01] <Yagisan> calvin: OK, just trying the usual culprits first
[09:01] <yapyccky> hello everyone
[09:01] <dallas> I am having some issues installing an ATI driver, anyone good with ATI cards under ubuntu?
[09:01] <PsyBort> happyfool, im having troulble finding the linux-headers-386 package on the cd, some guidance pls
[09:01] <yapyccky> i still didnt fix the problem i have with ethereal with my ubuntu
[09:01] <yapyccky> it seems to be impossible to run it
[09:01] <yapyccky> i always have a error message
[09:01] <HappyFool> PsyBort: let me start synaptic...
[09:02] <ksmurf> HappyFool That tells me whet  it can do.  I want to see what freq it is running at right now...
[09:02] <hondje> yapyccky: run it from a terminal, or edit the menu entry to have it use gksudo instead of gksu
[09:02] <HappyFool> ksmurf: ah, sorry, don't know
[09:02] <yapyccky> hondje: i run it from terminal but i always get a "cound not set capabilieties " error
[09:02] <PsyBort> kay
[09:02] <HappyFool> PsyBort: when you say 'having trouble', what do you mean?
[09:02] <hondje> oh :o not the 'need root!' error
[09:02] <HappyFool> PsyBort: is it not in synaptic's package list?
[09:02] <PsyBort> urm, i cant spot it
[09:03] <hondje> yapyccky: are you using hoary or breezy?
[09:03] <HappyFool> PsyBort: you're running hoary, right?
[09:03] <yapyccky> hondje: that's a good question...could u tell me how to check it??
[09:03] <HappyFool> PsyBort: that is, ubuntu 5.04 ?
[09:03] <hondje> yapyccky: cat /etc/issue
[09:03] <PsyBort> happy, i really dont know...how do i find that out, and whats the difference
[09:03] <dallas> I installed the ATI drivers and my glxgears performance went down... anyone got any ideas?
[09:04] <ormandj> bbiab
[09:04] <ksmurf> HappyFool cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling
[09:04] <yapyccky> hondje : breezy badger
[09:04] <Belutz> dallas, are you on hoary or breezy?
[09:04] <HappyFool> PsyBort: how did you install ubuntu?
[09:04] <HappyFool> ksmurf: ok, cool
[09:04] <dallas> Belutz, 5.04 sorry don't remember the name
[09:04] <deFrysk> dallas, glxgears is NOT a benchmarker
[09:05] <hondje> yapyccky: do a dist-upgrade, and if that doesn't fix it I'd recommend filing a bug in malone
[09:05] <PsyBort> distro came on cd in PC Authortity, slaped in it and cd-room booted into a installation menu
[09:05] <Belutz> dallas, you could use proprietary ati drivers, let me find the links
[09:05] <mr_roboto> opensource: get the package, apt-get install ssh
[09:05] <HappyFool> PsyBort: ok, what does 'System -> About Ubuntu' say?
[09:05] <dallas> Belutz, that is what I am using
[09:05] <brownie17> HappyFool, if he doesn't know, chances are its hoary
[09:05] <yapyccky> hondje : ok thx so much.
[09:05] <HappyFool> PsyBort: should be 4.10 or 5.04 or 5.10
[09:06] <hondje>  /etc/issue tells version, too
[09:06] <dallas> Belutz, for some reason it is seeing the card as unkown and on the PCI bus
[09:06] <opensource> mr_roboto i do have it installed i just get port 22: Connection refused error
[09:07] <Belutz> dallas, make sure you follow this steps and please read the thread till the end http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495
[09:07] <libervisco> Hello.. Does anyone know of a program that can convert ogg to wawe files?
[09:07] <dallas> did that
[09:07] <hondje> what's a wawe
[09:07] <tristanmike> i think he meant wave...
[09:07] <HappyFool> file full of animations of hands moving
[09:08] <hondje> oh, dur :)
[09:08] <tristanmike> just helping to clarify ;)
[09:08] <Belutz> dallas, did you copy the fglrx.ko into your home directory?
[09:08] <HappyFool> ogg123 will do it from cli (vorbis-tools package, i think)
[09:08] <mr_roboto> opensource: what does this command tell you?   netstat -a |grep ssh
[09:08] <dallas> Belutz, no...
[09:09] <hondje> gqmpeg is a gui for it I think
[09:09] <libervisco> HappyFool, ok, thanks
[09:09] <cevizoglu> wawe: the warped wave editor?
[09:09] <Belutz> dallas, well i suggest you read that forum thread's till the end
[09:09] <hondje> lol
[09:09] <dallas> Belutz, I am gonna install UT 2K4 and see what kind of performance I am realy getting.
[09:09] <hondje> why would you want to convert from ogg to wav?
[09:09] <calvin> what program can I use to play WMv files in ubuntu
[09:09] <calvin> ?
[09:10] <Belutz> dallas, my glxgears performance is about 2000fps using ati mobility 9600
[09:10] <hondje> xmms is popular
[09:10] <dallas> Belutz, as in all 12 pages? or just the OP?
[09:10] <Belutz> dallas, and my fgl_glxgears is about 300fps
[09:10] <hondje> I use beep media player, more, but rhythmbox is also nice, totem, banshee, amarok...
[09:10] <opensource> mr_roboto tcp 0  0 *:ssh    *:*   LISTEN
[09:10] <opensource> tcp        0      0 ::ffff:192.168.1.1:ssh      ::ffff:192.168.1.79:53799   ESTABLISHED
[09:10] <yapyccky> hondje : should i reboot machine after dist-upgrade?
[09:10] <Belutz> dallas, follow the first post, if you have problem, find it in the next thread
[09:11] <hondje> yapyccky: if it upgraded your kernel (or says to), I would
[09:11] <renedox> has anyone been able to get mpd working on ubuntu?
[09:11] <yapyccky> k
[09:11] <mr_roboto> opensource: what is that connection from 192.168.1.79 that is currently running?!
[09:11] <dallas> Belutz, okay I will go through it again
[09:12] <Belutz> dallas,  :)
[09:12] <opensource> hondje lol
[09:13] <opensource> mr_roboto im sshed into a server but cant scp any files to my system
[09:13] <mr_roboto> opensource: well for christ's sake... you said it wasn't working!
[09:13] <opensource> mr_roboto ups sry my bad
[09:14] <zack_> i have a strange java problem
[09:14] <mr_roboto> opensource: when you say you "can't scp"  what EXACTLY is going wrong?
[09:15] <zack_> i have java ubuntu package installed... but everytime i load a webpage with java it will crash firefox or konquer
[09:15] <opensource> mr_roboto it says "ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.79 port 22: Connection refused"
[09:15] <Tachyon> Can anyone help me with my printer problem? :(  I'm trying to add a printer that's connected to my XP machine, but no matter what method I try, it's not working.  Samba refuses to add the printer at all, Unix LPD adds it but can't connect. . . .
[09:16] <mr_roboto> opensource:  well ummmm stupid question but did you, in fact, enable the server on THAT host?    you are running the server on 192.168.1.1
[09:17] <mr_roboto> just run scp from 192.168.1.79, not the other direction
[09:17] <opensource> mr_roboto i had no problem doing it when i was running fedora, so i'd imagine it would be the same
[09:17] <zack_> anyone else have problems with firefox or konquer and jre 1.4.3 or w/e it is
[09:18] <mr_roboto> opensource: scp needs to talk to an ssh daemon. if one isn't running on ...79, it's not going to work
[09:18] <B_166-ER-X> where can i find CEDEGA ?
[09:18] <mr_roboto> what is 192.168.1.79?  another linux machine?
[09:19] <hondje> you can scp to and from a box running sshd, so if you can't do it from that box, you're using scp wrong
[09:19] <crtr> B_166-ER-X, http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=379294&query=debian+
[09:19] <B_166-ER-X> hm
[09:19] <PsyBort> happy, head caved in, sorry i couldnt find the version u were looking for.
[09:19] <PsyBort> pls explain where agian
[09:19] <iiiears> transgaming is the organisation they offer a $5 per month subscription - simple install or a free version no point2play from their CVS servr - difficult install
[09:19] <iiiears> !cedega
[09:19] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[09:19] <opensource> mr_roboto 192.168.1.79 is my machine and im trying to transfer some files from 192.168.1.1 how would i enable the ssh deamon? i can connect to the server via ssh just cant transfer any data
[09:19] <mr_roboto> hondje, you have to be sending the scp request TO the machine running the server
[09:19] <kongnamool> when upgrading from Hoary to Breezy, has anyone seen this?
[09:19] <kongnamool> Unpacking xrgb (from .../xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb) ...
[09:19] <kongnamool> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:19] <kongnamool>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/showrgb', which is also in package xutils
[09:19] <kongnamool> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:19] <kongnamool>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb
[09:20] <hondje> yeah, but if you can scp to the server, you can scp from it
[09:20] <discipleofyeshua> hello
[09:20] <kongnamool> I am not finding hints in the forums or on Google
[09:20] <opensource> B_166-ER-X u got aim?
[09:20] <discipleofyeshua> anyone here?
[09:21] <mr_roboto> yes, but the scp client has to be talking TO the server.    in other words, if i have an scp client on my windows machine, that does NOT mean i can be on my linux box and scp to or from the windows machine
[09:21] <mr_roboto> the other direction would work
[09:21] <mr_roboto> that's why i'm asking
[09:21] <B_166-ER-X> yeap, Gaim, in fact
[09:21] <hondje> oh, I see what your'e saying
[09:21] <opensource> mr_roboto their both linux boxes
[09:22] <mr_roboto> opensource: go to 192.168.1.79 and do the same netstat command
[09:22] <zack_> i need help ... eveytime i load a java app my broswer crashes ;x
[09:22] <mr_roboto> opensource: what does it say?
[09:22] <renedox> has anyone been able to get mpd working on ubuntu?
[09:22] <opensource> mr_roboto i also do this from a gentoo box, i just had to do /etc/init.d sshd start and it worked, the output i gave you was from 1.79
[09:23] <opensource> mr_roboto ups im wrong lemme get that for u
[09:23] <calvin> how do I install decoders for totem to play WMV files?
[09:23] <mr_roboto> opensource: no it was not
[09:23] <mr_roboto> opensource: because 79 was the remote address
[09:23] <opensource> mr_roboto yes you are right im confused already one sec
[09:24] <fahim> hi guys
[09:24] <fahim> can anybody tell me with which command I can delete a folder?
[09:24] <Trashcan> rm -r folder
[09:24] <hondje> rmdir, rm -rf foldername if it's not empty
[09:24] <gsuveg> re
[09:24] <Trashcan> or rm-rf folder
[09:24] <rjordan> calvin, install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[09:24] <gsuveg> anybody use ubutnu-lite ?
[09:24] <fahim> ahh thx :)
[09:24] <discipleofyeshua> hello?
[09:24] <discipleofyeshua> anybody on tonght?
[09:24] <discipleofyeshua> tonight
[09:24] <discipleofyeshua> calvin... i am wondering the same thing about MP3 files and CDR disks, and DVD's
[09:24] <calvin> where do I get taht and how do I install it
[09:24] <discipleofyeshua> but especially MP3's i cant get them to play on totem or the sound player
[09:25] <calvin> new to ubuntu
[09:25] <Trashcan> open terminal
[09:25] <discipleofyeshua> oh yah, me too
[09:25] <zack_> same
[09:25] <opensource> mr_roboto tcp     0      0 outcast:53799    192.168.1.1:ssh   ESTABLISHED
[09:25] <opensource> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     10229    /tmp/ssh-TZTFca7303/a gent.7303
[09:25] <mr_roboto> opensource: even if you don't have the server running on 79, if you are ON 79, you can scp to or from 1.1
[09:25] <Trashcan> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[09:25] <zack_> wtf why does java apps crash meh firefox!
[09:25] <mr_roboto> opensource: ok the server isn't running there, that's why you can't scp FROM 1.1
[09:25] <gsuveg> discipleofyeshua: tonight ? im drink my morning kaffe ;)
[09:25] <Trashcan> :D
[09:25] <mr_roboto> opensource: just go to 1.79 and do your scp there   (to or from 1.1)
[09:26] <Trashcan> woot woot kaffee
[09:26] <opensource> mr_roboto oh without logging in to the server?
[09:26] <calvin> how do I do that?
[09:26] <sobersabre> hi, is there a way to add gswitch it plugins ?
[09:26] <Trashcan> calvin
[09:26] <mr_roboto> opensource: well of course you're going to have to log in unless you're doing public key authentication
[09:26] <gsuveg> Trashcan: mea culpa. tooo morning is. im me install a server. broaf
[09:26] <sobersabre> i want flags to apear instead of letters.
[09:26] <sobersabre> on gnome panel
[09:27] <mr_roboto> opensource:   i mean  just do soemthing like     "scp <myfile>  <user>@192.168.1.1:<mydir>
[09:27] <discipleofyeshua> whats that gsurveg? who are you and what are you saying about coffee? are you in alaska?
[09:27] <Trashcan> Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[09:27] <Trashcan> and type this
[09:27] <Trashcan> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[09:27] <opensource> mr_roboto well i ment without sshing into the box
[09:27] <Trashcan> then type your password
[09:27] <Trashcan> and press enter
[09:27] <hondje> alaska is at like 10pm
[09:27] <mr_roboto> opensource: you don't have to ssh in first
[09:27] <opensource> mr_roboto i'll try that right now
[09:28] <mr_roboto> opensource: or the other dir will work too   "scp <user>@192.168.1.1:<mydir>/<myfile> ."   for example
[09:28] <gsuveg> Trashcan: but other os ad leenux
[09:28] <Trashcan> eh?
[09:28] <calvin> there is no "terminal" there
[09:28] <Trashcan> hoary?
[09:28] <gsuveg> Trashcan: a freebsd server with jails ;)
[09:29] <gsuveg> but please dont k-line me
[09:29] <Trashcan> on hoary: right click desktop, Open Terminal
[09:29] <dallas> Belutz, I looked at the link on that post and the first file the other post says to copy isn't on my machine anywhere.
[09:29] <Trashcan> gsuveg: you lost me at 'Trashcan:'
[09:29] <gsuveg> pardon ?
[09:29] <opensource> B_166-ER-X give me ur email i'll get it to you within the next hour
[09:29] <mr_roboto> is switching from hoary to breezy as simple as 'sed s/hoary/breezy/g sources.list' ?
[09:29] <Trashcan> its pretty damn simple
[09:29] <gsuveg> discipleofyeshua: no. im in hungary. you know where is ?
[09:29] <discipleofyeshua> ok, i am in alaska, but does anyone know why i cant get mp3's to play on my system? i have ubuntu latest release
[09:30] <mr_roboto> and then doing a dist-upgrade?
[09:30] <Trashcan> yeh
[09:30] <discipleofyeshua> oh, i see
[09:30] <Trashcan> what the tutorial says, work
[09:30] <Trashcan> s
[09:30] <Kuolio> mr_roboto: I've heard, and experienced my self, that dist-upgrade is not working proper :(
[09:30] <gsuveg> discipleofyeshua: you can read on ubuntufaq
[09:30] <discipleofyeshua> i do know where that is, Jah bless
[09:30] <Kuolio> discipleofyeshua: check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:30] <Trashcan> kuolio: what problem did you have? :s
[09:30] <B_166-ER-X> the mp3 maybe doesnt work at a high latitude ?
[09:31] <mr_roboto> kuolio: my system is working great now... wondering if i should try to switch to breezy :)
[09:31] <calvin> trashcan: found it in the system menu, thanks
[09:31] <gsuveg> Trashcan: im use bsd on servers
[09:31] <lancellor> good night everybody how do i do togdesklets start with ubuntu
[09:31] <discipleofyeshua> will they really tell me though?
[09:32] <Trashcan> wow, i had no idea mp3 was a fee format?!
[09:32] <discipleofyeshua> ok, i will check that out
[09:32] <Trashcan> weak
[09:32] <Trashcan> and 75c, ugh
[09:32] <cevizoglu> Trashcan, mp3 isn't a free format
[09:32] <discipleofyeshua> enjoy your morning coffee...  i love mine with organic homade half and flaf... :)
[09:32] <cevizoglu> Trashcan, hence the existence of ogg
[09:33] <Trashcan> :)
[09:33] <Trashcan> I know, I said 'fee format'
[09:33] <gsuveg> discipleofyeshua: you can play mp3 as other format on you linux
[09:33] <lightsource> Where can I find a guide on how to mount my other partition.
[09:33] <Trashcan> ie. pay a fee to support it
[09:33] <vengeful_> i had that too
[09:33] <Trashcan> !tell lightsource about mount
[09:33] <discipleofyeshua> does anyone know how i can load new software that isnt on the "add remove programs" list???
[09:33] <cevizoglu> Trashcan, oh, I see  :)   fee format
[09:33] <gsuveg> Trashcan: the ogg is better but cant play it on mp3 player like ipod and friends :(
[09:33] <Trashcan> :(
[09:33] <vengeful_> installed various media players
[09:33] <discipleofyeshua> then why wont they play do you think?
[09:34] <vengeful_> no idea which one fixed it for me
[09:34] <gsuveg> my good musics in ogg, what else ;)
[09:34] <Kuolio> mr_roboto: well, it can work by doing dist-upgrade, but you might be better of to have a clean install cd for breezy, just in case... and backup everything valuable before doing anything else :)
[09:34] <vengeful_> installed 4 at once
[09:34] <Trashcan> desciple: breezy? go to System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manger
[09:34] <discipleofyeshua> should such a common thing as an MP3 codec have come with the installation CD? is the problem that i have to DL it?
[09:34] <mr_roboto> opensource: that working ok now?
[09:34] <Trashcan> desciple: did you not read the article? MP3 is NOT a free format
[09:34] <cevizoglu> discipleofyeshua, it's not included because mp3 isn't free
[09:35] <Trashcan> and won't be supported
[09:35] <Kuolio> discipleofyeshua: it's a propietary software, you'd have to pay to have it on installation cd
[09:35] <lancellor> when i turn my computer off and i reboot desklets don't pop up i have to run gdesklets again
[09:35] <Trashcan> the reason microsoft can play it is because they pay for it
[09:35] <vengeful_> wait till you try and copy mp3s to cd :-P
[09:35] <zack_> wtf why does java apps crash meh firefox!
[09:35] <cevizoglu> zack_, you're starting to sound like a spambot
[09:35] <Trashcan> lol
[09:36] <Trashcan> !+mirror
[09:36] <ubotu> mirror is probably repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[09:36] <zack_> lol
[09:36] <zack_> i havent even send it 5 times
[09:36] <discipleofyeshua> trahscan, why do the programs say they can play MP3 formatt, if its not legal?
[09:37] <discipleofyeshua> trashcan
[09:37] <zack_> xmms owns disasm
[09:37] <zack_> discipleofyeshua,
[09:37] <Trashcan> not sure, descriple
[09:37] <discipleofyeshua> or free
[09:37] <discipleofyeshua> that is
[09:37] <wrabbit01> Hi.... I have downloaded and "installed" the latest java but am now confused as to how I enable(or install) the actual plugin
[09:37] <wrabbit01> Can anybody help?
[09:37] <wrabbit01> Help files aren't helping at the moment
[09:37] <zack_> ^ wrabbit01  i have the same problem
[09:37] <gsuveg> wrabbit01: and its on in ff plugins ?
[09:37] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: you get it from sun?
[09:37] <zack_> it just crashes my browser
[09:37] <gsuveg> funny
[09:38] <wrabbit01> mr_roboto: yes
[09:38] <wrabbit01> gsuveg: no idea if it's on.  Don't know how to enable plugins
[09:38] <wrabbit01> gsuveg: can't find any options in menu
[09:38] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: ok, do this
[09:38] <zack_> can i do it too i think i have the same problem :)
[09:39] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: in your ~/.mozilla/plugins dir make  a link
[09:39] <iiiears> mp3 format is patented and the rights to use it in products costs money. BIG money.
[09:39] <tensor> what's a good alternative for nautilus cd-burner for burning iso images?
[09:39] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/local/java/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so  (or wherever you installed it to)
[09:39] <Cashel> howdies..
[09:39] <gsuveg> http://ubuntuguide.org/ <<
[09:39] <gsuveg> wrabbit01: ^ here is a howto
[09:40] <Alex_BO> HELLO!How can I extract only a specific file from a tarball?
[09:40] <BiSK-8> hello
[09:41] <wrabbit01> I'm in the dir.. how do I create the link?  Still finding it hard to use console
[09:41] <opensource> mr_roboto omg we did it :)
[09:41] <BiSK-8> i have a problem with gtkpod, it tells me that the itunesDB is missing, what can i do?
[09:41] <mr_roboto> opensource:  congrats :)
[09:41] <iiiears> Alex - open the tar with file roller (right click) and extract anything.
[09:41] <opensource> mr_roboto thanks man sry if gave u hard time
[09:41] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: ln -s <location of plugin.so> .
[09:42] <Cashel> (WW) Ignoring request to load module GLcore
[09:42] <Cashel>   ... this seems to be the only problem, yet its enough... Tryin to get fglrx prop drivers to work, same method I used in Hoary doesnt seem to be working in Breezy...  can anyone help?
[09:42] <mr_roboto> opensource: np... hopefully you understand how it works now :)
[09:42] <jrattner1> when is breezy OFFICIALLY released?
[09:42] <wrabbit01> I'm using breezy... will this make a difference?
[09:42] <Alex_BO> iiiears, i would like not to depend from gui
[09:42] <crimsun> jrattner1: 13 Oct
[09:42] <iiiears> tensor - opinions vary but most like either gnomebaker or k3b
[09:42] <jrattner1> crimsun, so 11 days
[09:42] <adam_> hello all
[09:42] <crimsun> jrattner1: or thereabouts.
[09:42] <adam_> anyone want to help me with a quick question?
[09:43] <MadpilotPPC> how do I get Nautilus (in Hoary) to behave more like WinExplorer? I can't get used to the damned odd way the default Nautilus works, with windows popping up all over...
[09:43] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: the cmmand to create the link is kind of like cp (copy)   you "ln -s <source> <dest>"
[09:43] <adam_> anyone get alc850 drivers to work in ubuntu?
[09:43] <wrabbit01> ah, right.  Thanks for that.
[09:43] <adam_> or how do i install a .run file?
[09:43] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: don't worry your not alone
[09:43] <none_-> adam_, chmod +x file ./file
[09:44] <zack_> adam
[09:44] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: Go into the options/prefrences
[09:44] <zack_> sudo sh blahblah.run
[09:44] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: In there somewhere is a option for web view
[09:44] <adam_> ah
[09:44] <adam_> kk
[09:44] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: Enable that
[09:44] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: then on the panel that comes up on the left hand side of each window
[09:44] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: Click at the top of it, and change to tree
[09:45] <Alex_BO> halo?it seems there isn't an answer for me
[09:45] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: Thankfully nautlius sucks a whole lot less in breezy
[09:45] <locomorto> none of this spatial crap anymore
[09:45] <MadpilotPPC> locomorto, Options/Prefs where? Nautilus seems to have no Options menu...
[09:45] <BiSK-8> i have a problem with gtkpod, it tells me that the itunesDB is missing, what can i do?
[09:46] <adam_> damnit
[09:46] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: It should be at the top
[09:46] <hansi_xp> Hello, i was wondering if someone has experienced slow web browsing scrolling?
[09:46] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: Under edit or some such
[09:47] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: I'll check the wiki
[09:47] <jrattner1> is flgrx standard in breezy
[09:47] <jrattner1> like will it detect im using ATI and use the appropriate drivers?
[09:47] <tensor> iiiears, thanks, will try both
[09:47] <Cashel> jrattner1, not for 3d no
[09:47] <adam_> i didnt install the kernel source files...
[09:47] <graig> for some things i like spacial, and for some i like web view.
[09:47] <locomorto> Madpilot: what options are under edit and view?
[09:48] <MadpilotPPC> locomorto, got it sorted - you have to choose the "open in browser view" option...
[09:48] <graig> like when you are dealing with lots of files and folders, copying files around and moving files to other folders, spacial rules.
[09:48] <jrattner1> Cashel, what do you mean not for 3d?
[09:48] <Cashel> jrattner1, you using hoary?
[09:48] <graig> but when you just wanna navigate your folders, webview seems better.
[09:48] <locomorto> Madpilot: ah good, I'm sorry i was so vauge
[09:48] <jrattner1> Cashel, yes
[09:48] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: that is all i had to do. applets work fine for me in firefox now
[09:48] <MadpilotPPC> locomorto, so the default in Breezy is going to be tree/webview rather than that damned spatial?
[09:48] <adam_> which do i use to get the source files for the kernel?
[09:48] <locomorto> Madpilot: It just I havn't used gnome 2.10 for a while now
[09:48] <Cashel> jrattner1, you have to go through all the same shit in breezy to get 3d acceleration working...
[09:48] <locomorto> Madpilot: YEs
[09:48] <graig> eww treeview?
[09:49] <adam_> ot it
[09:49] <graig> so you won't be able to see the icons?
[09:49] <adam_> got it
[09:49] <jrattner1> hoary doesnt like me
[09:49] <locomorto> Madpilot: Only one windows
[09:49] <jrattner1> it wont work
[09:49] <hansi_xp> i was wondering if someone could give me some suggestions as to why web browsing scrolling slow. i think video driver but installed nvidia.
[09:49] <locomorto> graig: it stats out with icons
[09:49] <Cashel> jrattner1, and, having just gone through all that crap again, its not working for me so....
[09:49] <locomorto> graig: you can go view -> view as list
[09:49] <MadpilotPPC> locomorto, hallelujah and other things... I've always disliked the lots-of-windows navigators, like MyComputer in Windows
[09:49] <locomorto> And it behavious much like MAC OS X then
[09:50] <graig> hey locomoto, are you using xchat?
[09:50] <locomorto> graig: yes
[09:50] <linner> hey ya'll
[09:50] <graig> how do you send a tell?
[09:51] <locomorto> /msg <person name> <message>
[09:51] <iiiears> hansi_xp - glxgears  will help narrow things down a bit. what does it say?
[09:51] <locomorto> Or right click on there name
[09:51] <locomorto> Open dialog window
[09:51] <locomorto> Then its much like another channel
[09:51] <locomorto> Also if they reply back then you get a window opended as well
[09:51] <discipleofyeshua> where do i download a program that will play Mp3 files on my ubuntu?
[09:52] <MadpilotPPC> !tell discipleofyeshua about mp3
[09:52] <NsOmNiAc> discipleofyeshua : xmms
[09:52] <[drunk] logic> discipleofyeshua, sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:52] <all4n> hey people..  I'm just wondering whether it is hard (possible?) to set up the different virtual desktops in gnome to have individual resolutions..  any ideas?
[09:52] <locomorto> NsOmNiAc: actually its gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:52] <hansi_xp> iiiears: it's roughly at 2147 fps
[09:52] <Belutz> beep-media-player
[09:52] <discipleofyeshua> whats that?
[09:52] <discipleofyeshua> i am sorry, i am very new to linux... where do i go?
[09:52] <locomorto> I think xmms still uses gstreamer
[09:53] <locomorto> !mp3
[09:53] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:53] <MadpilotPPC> discipleofyeshua, follow the URL that ubotu just sent you, that'll walk you through installing media codecs
[09:53] <locomorto> Or the one just there ;)
[09:53] <jrattner1> discipleofyeshua, type xmms
[09:53] <opensource> mr_roboto thx again, im gone
[09:54] <discipleofyeshua> thank you very much
[09:54] <mr_roboto> opensource:  ok man    have a good one
[09:54] <MadpilotPPC> jrattner1, xmms isn't installed in Ubuntu by default...
[09:54] <adam_> ok guys....
[09:54] <adam_> i need some help
[09:54] <lightsource> what is the command to see what drives I have? like hda1 and hda2 and sda1.
[09:54] <adam_> i cant get my sound working
[09:54] <all4n> lightsource, "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:54] <adam_> and i have ran the sudo sh NFORCE blah blah
[09:54] <iiiears> hansi_xp that sounds okay
[09:54] <adam_> it says it cant find the kernel source tree
[09:55] <adam_> when i go to install them
[09:55] <adam_> suggestions?
[09:55] <twysted> you need to apt-get the kernel sources i belive :)
[09:55] <adam_> i used synaptic
[09:55] <adam_> to do it
[09:55] <jsteidl> thats the same :)
[09:55] <HappyFool> adam_: try linux-headers-386 before installing full source
[09:55] <wickedpuppy> adam_, in synaptic ... search for kernel source
[09:55] <jrattner1> MadpilotPPC, my bad
[09:55] <adam_> im using a64
[09:56] <HappyFool> ok, linux-headers-amd64
[09:56] <locomorto> lightsource: sudo fdisk -l or use the system resource viewer (but that latter only shows mounted)
[09:56] <adam_> and i installed everything under what said source
[09:57] <adam_> then i logged off, and logged back in
[09:57] <adam_> and it still wont install
[09:57] <adam_> same error
[09:57] <lightsource> ok, well I found the different devices, and... which one holds my pictures if its on my windows???
[09:58] <adam_> im just going to up date.... and see if it fixes it
[09:58] <graig> lightsource, if you just installed windows, that probably means your windows drive is not mounted.
[09:58] <adam_> i just dont have sound... pain in the butt
[09:59] <lightsource> well I have already mounted one drive, but I forgot to save the chat and now I don'tknow how to mount the drive again...
[09:59] <lightsource> like I've got my music drive mounted, now I need my pictures drive monuted.
[09:59] <graig> ahh.
[09:59] <graig> let me see if i can find a link.
[09:59] <lightsource> k thnx
[10:00] <MadpilotPPC> !+mount
[10:00] <ubotu> somebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[10:00] <eythian> anyone know how to get random desktop picture changes in gnome?
[10:00] <graig> are they ntfs drives?
[10:00] <Belutz> !tell lightsource about windowsdrives
[10:00] <iiiears> locomorto - handy automount script. check out ubotu's link.
[10:00] <iiiears> !ntfs
[10:00] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[10:01] <locomorto> iiiears: ?
[10:02] <wrabbit01> Alrighty... it's not working.  I've created the symbolic link to the plugin but it's not showing up in about:plugins.  It's not working at all.
[10:02] <wrabbit01> I think I'm missing something
[10:04] <calvin> I am still having problems playing WMV files, can anyone help?
[10:04] <graig> what have you tried sofar calvin?
[10:04] <calvin> not sure
[10:04] <graig> did you try xine-totem?
[10:04] <calvin> new to ubuntu graid
[10:04] <graig> and windows codecs?
[10:04] <calvin> how do I install the codecs and where do I get them?
[10:05] <Alex_BO> HELLO! Why if I write "tar -t tarball.tar" nothing happens? I'm sure tarball is not empty
[10:05] <graig> i get partial support like that, some wmv files dont work still, but some videos will work.
[10:05] <calvin> how do I install the codecs?
[10:06] <graig> you can get the codec's at this site,  http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[10:06] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: try 'tar -tf tarball.tar'
[10:06] <MadpilotPPC> !+w32codecs
[10:06] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[10:06] <calvin> and how do I install it
[10:06] <MadpilotPPC> calvin, see ubotu's post just above ^^^
[10:06] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, I'm stupid.tnls
[10:06] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, I'm stupid.tnks
[10:06] <Belutz> MadpilotPPC, why you use + after ! ?
[10:07] <graig> oh wow, get the deb up there, that should make it real easy.
[10:07] <calvin> what do I do with the file when I download it>
[10:07] <MadpilotPPC> Belutz, it forces ubotu to post the longer !tells to the channel, rather than in /msg to the person who requested it
[10:08] <iiiears> sudo dpkg -i your.deb should install it.
[10:08] <Belutz> MadpilotPPC, oh i see :)
[10:08] <calvin> graig: what do I do with the file once it's downloaded
[10:08] <adam_> i still cant get my sound to work after the update... anyone want to help me?
[10:08] <Belutz> calvin, sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[10:08] <adam_> i have the driver file
[10:08] <wrabbit01> Whoooooo, it works. :)
[10:08] <vengeful_> ubotu..think you could help me with something? Ubuntu is the only distro so far that i can use for my laptop(inspiron 6000) debian, centos, fedora, freebsd, mandriva all leave me with an unusual gui due to my graphics chipset....ubuntu works perfectly but i see there is an update available in xorg..think if i update il have probs?
[10:08] <wrabbit01> Took a while but thanks for the help
[10:09] <adam_> and i ran it. but it says it cant find the source tree
[10:09] <adam_> i have installed everything under source in synaptic
[10:09] <HappyFool> vengeful_: ubotu is a bot ;). updates *should* be safe, but there's no guarantee
[10:09] <adam_> ubotu, kernel source tree
[10:09] <ubotu> adam_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:09] <vengeful_> oh im dim
[10:09] <Dalik> anyone have a problem where you move a window and you get a fuzzy sound from the speakers?
[10:09] <crimsun> adam_: what's the issue?
[10:09] <vengeful_> i thought it was a guru of some sorts hehe
[10:10] <Dalik> I do know that its not the sound because it happens if I mute the sound
[10:10] <Dalik> it happens in linux and windows
[10:10] <adam_> i cant get the driver files from nvidia to find the source tree
[10:10] <HappyFool> vengeful_: nah, he's just cheeky
[10:10] <vengeful_> i think il stay as i am for now till it gets official support
[10:10] <vengeful_> as it works ok :-)
[10:10] <adam_> crimsun, i cant get the driver files to find the kernel source tree
[10:11] <adam_> crimsun, and i have installed all files under source...
[10:11] <crimsun> adam_: what are you trying to get working?
[10:11] <adam_> crimsun, my sound
[10:11] <cevizoglu> !bot
[10:11] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to cevizoglu? I think not. Bot, jot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[10:11] <cevizoglu> see, he is kind of a guru  :)
[10:11] <vengeful_> ok i see what you mean
[10:11] <MadpilotPPC> !botsnack
[10:11] <ubotu> thanks madpilotppc :)
[10:11] <HappyFool> vengeful_: in general you should use the latest available package provided by the ubuntu archives
[10:11] <calvin> Belutz; I put that in but it can';t find the package
[10:11] <inc|freaky> is there any possibility of configuring acpi using KDE?
[10:12] <inc|freaky> a GUI frontend
[10:12] <crimsun> adam_: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[10:12] <graig> where did you download the file calvin?
[10:12] <calvin> desktop
[10:12] <crimsun> hang on, brb, getting a drink.
[10:12] <calvin> where should it go
[10:12] <graig> ok. open a new terminal calvin.
[10:12] <calvin> ok
[10:12] <graig> type cd Desktop
[10:13] <calvin> ok
[10:13] <graig> then sudo dpkg -i win32  then hit tab
[10:13] <calvin> things being case sensative is something I'm getting used to
[10:13] <graig> yeah hehe.
[10:13] <adam_> ok, it says nvidia... so i guess it istalled?
[10:13] <bbr> hello
[10:13] <adam_> crimsun, it says nvidia... so i guess now, i have something else wrong
[10:13] <graig> tab should complete the rest of the filename, then it should install.
[10:14] <twysted> adam, make sure your sound isnt muted :)
[10:14] <calvin> it just beeks at me
[10:14] <graig> when you hit tab it beeps?
[10:14] <calvin> yeah
[10:14] <graig> type LS  but lowercase
[10:15] <calvin> LS?
[10:15] <vengeful_> ls heh
[10:15] <graig> its like the dos dir command.
[10:15] <graig> but ls
[10:15] <graig> it should list the files on your desktop.
[10:17] <calvin> I just typed in thw whole file name and it worked
[10:17] <calvin> thanks graig
[10:17] <graig> yep.
[10:17] <bam_> why does gtkpod say im disconnected when i am not
[10:17] <graig> now theres one other thing you gotta do calvin.
[10:17] <graig> you gotta install totem-xine.
[10:17] <graig> its in synaptic.
[10:17] <bam_> and how do i display my library on the computer?
[10:18] <calvin> those are already on my system
[10:18] <calvin> does that matter?
[10:18] <graig> if you already have totem-xine  (not totem-gstreamer) then you should be able to play wma files right now.
[10:19] <calvin> I have totem and I have xine, is that the same thing?
[10:19] <graig> yes.
[10:19] <graig> try opening the video or wma file in xine now.
[10:19] <Chousuke> not really.
[10:19] <Chousuke> you need the totem-xine totem installed if you want to use the xine engine in totem.
[10:19] <calvin> it works, thanks
[10:20] <graig> yep.
[10:21] <vengeful_> see..i hang here...you pick up loads of useful stuff :-D
[10:21] <graig> yeah you do hehe.
[10:22] <Alex_BO> is there a way to see the transfer's percent with the command mv?
[10:23] <eythian> Alex_BO, nope. I often use rsync --progress if I need to see it.
[10:23] <twysted> wb calvin
[10:24] <calvin> thanks
[10:24] <calvin> graig: I have no sound
[10:24] <crimsun> calvin: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[10:24] <Alex_BO> eythian, okey.tnks
[10:27] <calvin> crumsum: I have sound from the computer but not from my WMV video files
[10:27] <graig> are other videos giving sound through mplayer?
[10:28] <adam_> this sucks
[10:28] <calvin> it's through xine and yes
[10:28] <twysted> what does adam
[10:28] <adam_> crimsun, i got the sound to work
[10:28] <adam_> i cant get xmms to install
[10:28] <graig> i had some problems with certain wmv videos, some wont play, and some play perfectly.
[10:29] <crimsun> adam_: sudo aptitude install xmms
[10:29] <adam_> and my apt-get doesnt work for some odd reason
[10:29] <calvin> how do I install MPlayer-1.0pre7try2.tar.bz2
[10:29] <Kuolio> graig: wmv9 is very problematic :(
[10:29] <adam_> haha
[10:29] <adam_> forgot install cmd
[10:29] <adam_> haha
[10:29] <adam_> its 4:30 am.... im tired... and just woke up
[10:30] <hansi_xp> calvin. i think you gotta bunzip it first.
[10:30] <graig> calvin, it looks like that would be the source code archive.
[10:30] <calvin> did that, how from there?
[10:30] <crimsun> calvin: enable the multiverse repository, then sudo aptitude install mplayer
[10:30] <hansi_xp> untar it?
[10:30] <hansi_xp> no don't do that!
[10:30] <hansi_xp> i had big arse troubles installing mplayer from there!
[10:30] <calvin> sudo apitude?
[10:30] <adam_> crimsun, it says could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open
[10:31] <crimsun> adam_: something else has it open, like Synaptic, apt-get, ...
[10:31] <hansi_xp> in the #mplayer channel, i was told to compile it
[10:31] <crimsun> adam_: so close it.
[10:31] <Belutz> adam_, maybe your synaptic is still running?
[10:31] <adam_> device manager... duh
[10:31] <adam_> haha
[10:31] <hansi_xp> it was the only way i got it to work
[10:31] <sagar_> how can i get the opengl development files/
[10:31] <sagar_> ?
[10:31] <graig> search synaptic for them sagar.
[10:31] <adam_> nothing has it open
[10:31] <crimsun> hansi_xp: that's great. You sure can compile it if you want. We don't support self-compiled packages, thanks.
[10:32] <hansi_xp> crimsun: that's funny. mplayer being don't support compiled packages
[10:32] <adam_> synaptic...
[10:32] <crimsun> hansi_xp: sounds like a catch-22, eh?
[10:32] <PsyBort> does anyone here know where i can find a 1.3.x version of ndiswrapper?
[10:32] <graig> calvin  give totem-xine a try before you try compiling xine.
[10:32] <calvin> so whast my next step
[10:32] <hansi_xp> crimsun: i had problems with it.
[10:32] <calvin> I don't know how to compile anything
[10:33] <hansi_xp> calvin: read the help with mplayer
[10:33] <graig> it might not even help if you compiled it.
[10:33] <adam_> hmmm
[10:33] <calvin> I'm a windows operator, fish out of water here
[10:33] <crimsun> adam_: dpkg -l w32codecs|grep ^ii
[10:33] <adam_> i got it
[10:33] <adam_> crimsun, i got it bud...
[10:33] <adam_> thanks
[10:33] <crimsun> adam_: version?
[10:33] <adam_> crimsun, now i just have to figure out how to mount my drives
[10:33] <adam_> crimsun, ver of what?
[10:33] <crimsun> adam_: err, sorry.
[10:34] <hansi_xp> calvin: are you trying to install mplayer?
[10:34] <crimsun> calvin: dpkg -l w32codecs|grep ^ii
[10:34] <adam_> oh
[10:34] <calvin> yes
[10:34] <hansi_xp> calvin: did you find the readme?
[10:34] <calvin> no
[10:35] <Mars__^> Hi I have big problem. After i installed Opera, my internet connection is very slow (browsers) i cant open any website. But thunderbird and xchat works good. Maybe it is because of that there were some errors during installing Opera? Maybe you could tell me how to uninstall it? I installed it with: sh install.sh (i cant uninstall t using dpkg -P opera)
[10:35] <crimsun> calvin: what's the output from the command I gave you?
[10:35] <calvin> /home/calvin/Desktop/EMC Monkey Movies
[10:35] <calvin> whoops
[10:35] <twysted> Mars> youll have to contact Opera support, since you installed it from source
[10:36] <calvin> ii  w32codecs      20050216-0.0   win32 binary codecs
[10:36] <spiral> hi
[10:36] <Mars__^> Ok thanks
[10:36] <hansi_xp> calvin: http://mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/README
[10:36] <twysted> your welcome
[10:36] <hansi_xp> calvin: you have to download the codec too if you want to compile it yourself
[10:36] <hansi_xp> calvin: and like 10 other development files too, using synaptic
[10:36] <hansi_xp> calvin: it's not easy, compared to win xp.
[10:37] <adam_> ubotu, tell me about mounting drives on the desktop
[10:37] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, why can't you install from one of Opera's .deb files?
[10:37] <HappyFool> adam_: ubotu's factoids are usually single words
[10:37] <HappyFool> adam_: what do you want to do?
[10:37] <MadpilotPPC> !+mount
[10:37] <ubotu> mount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[10:37] <calvin> Drimsum, do you have any help with the output text
[10:38] <Mars__^> MadpilotPPC, I had a problem cause i am noob:)
[10:38] <adam_> ubotu, tell me about windowsdrives
[10:38] <MadpilotPPC> !+opera
[10:38] <ubotu> methinks opera is a very powerful and speedy web browser with a superfluity of features while placing stress upon visual aesthetics. Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get more information at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:38] <AnkhWeasel> How do you move a program from one section of the Application panel to another? (In GNOME - from Other to Games..)
[10:38] <twysted> !windowsdrives
[10:38] <ubotu> somebody said windowsdrives was Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[10:38] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, see the ubotu post a few lines up, and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser for next time
[10:39] <calvin> crimsum?
[10:39] <crimsun> calvin: looks fine to me
[10:39] <calvin> ok
[10:39] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, but I have no idea how to get rid of your current install of Opera, if you installed from source
[10:39] <crimsun> (you have to spell my nick correctly if you want it to trigger my highlight)
[10:40] <Mars__^> Funny, I hope i will uninstall it
[10:40] <adam_> why does cd's not natively read in ubuntu?
[10:40] <twysted> you mean mount adam_?
[10:41] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, you could ask on Opera's own forums, there's a very good group of people there
[10:41] <adam_> yea
[10:41] <adam_> twysted, yea
[10:41] <adam_> its weird... i try to open a cd, and it errors
[10:41] <adam_> tells me it cant read it
[10:41] <twysted> oh like that
[10:41] <twysted> i wouldnt know about that :)
[10:41] <Mars__^> O another problem, i am installing nvida drivers and when i write: sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop: but it writes that there is not command called getdit. What is proper one?
[10:42] <adam_> gedit
[10:44] <Mars__^> sudo: gedit: command not found
[10:44] <adam_> ok that was weird...
[10:44] <adam_> as long as i use my cd rom instead of my dvd burner, my audio cd plays
[10:44] <aburlet> Mars__^, do a sudo `which gedit` your file
[10:45] <Mars__^> what you mean?
[10:45] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, simpler check: type "man gedit" at a prompt, please
[10:45] <Lethargic17> i can't get my networkadapter work on ubuntu
[10:45] <Lethargic17> can some1 help me?
[10:45] <aburlet> type: sudo `which gedit` /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop
[10:46] <aburlet> Lethargic17, what kind of adapter ?
[10:46] <Lethargic17> this is the readme on the driver cd: http://users.skynet.be/info-seefeld/README
[10:47] <Lethargic17> a US Robotics network adapter
[10:47] <aburlet> ethernet adapter ?
[10:47] <Lethargic17> yes
[10:47] <linner> there has never been a time when I can into this channel and did not see less than 400 people.... it's wild
[10:47] <IceDC571> does airport extreme work on linux yet?
[10:47] <squid0> linner: yes, wow
[10:47] <Mars__^> mars@lunar:~$ man gedit
[10:47] <Mars__^> No manual entry for gedit
[10:48] <aburlet> Lethargic17, that kind of adapter usually work out of the bo
[10:48] <linner> squid0, :)
[10:48] <aburlet> box
[10:48] <Lethargic17> it doesn't :s
[10:48] <poningru> Mars__^: did you delete anything?
[10:48] <poningru> it shows up fine for me
[10:48] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, that's very odd - gedit is installed by default in Ubuntu, and so is the man page
[10:48] <aburlet> Lethargic17, is it the only adapter ?
[10:48] <Lethargic17> yes
[10:48] <aburlet> Lethargic17, how is your network setup, static ip or dhcp ?
[10:48] <Lethargic17> dhcp
[10:48] <Mars__^> I didnt delete anything, what schould i do now?
[10:49] <Lethargic17> it works on my other pc with ubuntu
[10:49] <aburlet> Lethargic17, if you do an "ifconfig -a" do you see a line with eth0 ?
[10:49] <eythian> why is postfix a required thing in the install, and not just any mail thing? (e.g. I'd like to replace it with nullmailer)
[10:49] <shinu> is there any program that can do a file integrity check and fix the file index for me?
[10:49] <poningru> Mars__^: do other pages give the sam prob?
[10:49] <shinu> i messed up some files....
[10:50] <Lethargic17> i don't see eth0
[10:50] <Lethargic17> only lo and sit0
[10:50] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, try a couple other default man pages?
[10:50] <aburlet> Lethargic17, I guess your adapter is a PCI adapter ?
[10:50] <Lethargic17> yes
[10:51] <linner> does anyone have a link to where I can find what will be changed with the final version of 5.10?
[10:52] <Lethargic17> can't i just use the driver on the cd like it is explained in the readme?
[10:52] <Raskall> is the login on shipit.ubuntu.com broken? Can't login even if I know I use the correct password. Tried the "Forgotten your password" too, but I am unable to login
[10:52] <aburlet> Lethargic17, you have ubuntu right ?
[10:52] <Lethargic17> yes
[10:52] <aburlet> Lethargic17, the driver should be included
[10:53] <Lethargic17> this driver isn't included
[10:53] <soxfun> hi
[10:53] <soxfun> an easy question
[10:53] <rjordan> Lethargic17, What type of NIC?
[10:53] <Lethargic17> on my other pc, the network adapter was recognised automatically
[10:53] <Plebeuz> driver forwhat?
[10:53] <Raskall> ahh.. got in now. Guess it's a delay in the reset password thing
[10:53] <soxfun> the name for the wmv codec in ubuntu? I really have tu use wmv....
[10:53] <Lethargic17> Plebeuz: network adapter
[10:54] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, just set the modprobe
[10:54] <aburlet> Lethargic17, oh yes, I read too quickly, did you try to compile the given driver ?
[10:54] <rjordan> soxfun, gstreamer0.8-plugins
[10:54] <twysted> Lethargic17: do you know what kind of network adaptor it is
[10:54] <mbpillai> Lethargic : sit0 is a runelling device(virtual)  you might have installed pptd
[10:54] <Lethargic17> i have tried "sudo modprobe r8169" but it doesn't work
[10:54] <Plebeuz> so the modprobe is worng
[10:55] <Plebeuz> wrong*
[10:55] <mbpillai> Lethargic:  issue command ps ax | grep pptd
[10:55] <Plebeuz> or the kernel doent have it, then u must compile the driver
[10:55] <Lethargic17> how must i exactly use this commands?
[10:55] <twysted> gigabit network card
[10:55] <Lethargic17> yes
[10:55] <Lethargic17> i have the linux driver on cd
[10:55] <Mars__^> o maybe thats because i am using kubuntu?
[10:55] <Mars__^> :(
[10:56] <Lethargic17> but i just don't know haw to install it
[10:56] <Mars__^> o and i reasding tutorial how to install nvidia drivers, but i checkegd and i dont have /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop
[10:56] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, easy, ./configure make and make install
[10:56] <Plebeuz> after try reboot your system
[10:56] <Plebeuz> then lspci
[10:56] <Mars__^> MadpilotPPC, thanks but can you tell me what exactly you mean?
[10:56] <squid0> hi
[10:56] <Lethargic17> i don't understand it :s
[10:56] <Plebeuz> and see if ur hardware is showing in the list
[10:57] <Mars__^> And question will i open Enemyterritoru.run ?
[10:57] <squid0> does anyone have a straight-forward method/suggestion for setting up MIDI on ubuntu?
[10:57] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17,
[10:57] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, to instal
[10:57] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, in line comand go inside the directori
[10:57] <Mars__^> ok i will restart my X maybe it will help
[10:57] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, directory*
[10:57] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, then type ./configure
[10:58] <Exc> Hello all. I'm trying to install ubuntu and having some issues. Searched the forums, but couldn't find anything.
[10:58] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, aftare that type make
[10:58] <twysted> whats going on Exc
[10:58] <sobersabre> Exc, which issues are you having... or you mean you're sneezing ?
[10:58] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, after*
[10:58] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, then make install
[10:58] <kikinovak> Hi gang. I'm a Slackware veteran and I want to give Ubuntu a try. Q1: how do I manage to install Ubuntu _without_ GRUB... as I already have several distros on several partitions?
[10:58] <sobersabre> issue, issue.
[10:58] <sobersabre> oops
[10:58] <Lethargic17> must i go to the directory where the driver is located?
[10:59] <sobersabre> pardon.. i've sneezed.
[10:59] <Exc> Well for some reason Kubuntu, Ubuntu (both i386 and AMD64) stop installing at 'Installing Pakages' 85% "Preparing for installation"
[10:59] <squid0> anyone know how to setup midi?
[10:59] <Plebeuz> kikinovak, i use slack to, just try to set the botable partition to slack then configure lilo
[10:59] <twysted> kikinovak if you do a expert install it should let you choose to install grub or not
[10:59] <Exc> I'm on an Athlon 64, 1gb of ram, msi Nforce 4 mobo.
[10:59] <sobersabre> Exc, there are 4-5 other virtual terminals you can access with Alt+F1,2,3,4,5 when you're installing.
[11:00] <sobersabre> soxfun, seee if there is a more meaningful message on which there was a failure...
[11:00] <sobersabre> hmm.
[11:00] <shinu> how do i force delete a directory no matter what?!
[11:00] <kikinovak> twysted OK I'll check that
[11:00] <sobersabre> soxfun, you have a very auto-completing nick.
[11:00] <Exc> sobersabre: OK, good plan. I'll take a look.
[11:00] <twysted> kikinovak, good luck :)
[11:00] <kikinovak> Plebeuz I wouldn't think that's a good idea.
[11:00] <shinu> i keep on getting: rm: cannot lstat `great teacher onizuka//.$ $ $ $. $': Input/output error on a directory i messed up...
[11:00] <Plebeuz> kikinovak, why?
[11:01] <D4rKHowL> hey... i'm a ubuntu newbie user... and got a problem during startup of the ubuntu program, How do I switch display modes because the defualt mode of the ubuntu installation just display a video mode overrange... HELP dudes!
[11:01] <sobersabre> Exc, if you see the problem is with reading the CDROM.. you're either have a scratched CD or old CDROM drive.
[11:01] <Plebeuz> kikinovak, i use that way :P
[11:01] <adam_> ok, how can i change my screen resolution? it wont let me go any higher than 1024x768
[11:01] <Plebeuz> kikinovak, if ur expert u can configure ur lilo well
[11:01] <sobersabre> adam_, which display do you have ?
[11:01] <D4rKHowL> hey... i'm a ubuntu newbie user... and got a problem during startup of the ubuntu program, How do I switch display modes because the defualt mode of the ubuntu installation just display a video mode overrange... HELP dudes!
[11:01] <crtr> how to check if my sound card is not working ?
[11:01] <Lethargic17> Plebeuz, the configure command doesn't work:s
[11:01] <twysted> Plebeuz, kiknovak is gone ;)
[11:01] <Lethargic17> what do i wrong?
[11:01] <Exc> AH! You're great, friend. Its waitng for me to tell it to go ahead with the installation of an untrusted package on another virtual terminal!
[11:02] <shinu> D4rKHowL: dont repeat. if someone knows, they will answer you. youre not alone here
[11:02] <adam_> ati 9800 pro matched with a viewsonic e90fb
[11:02] <sobersabre> crtr, try to play a file... if you don't hear anything, maybe the card isn't working..
[11:02] <sobersabre> adam_, is it a CRT or LCD ?
[11:02] <adam_> crt
[11:02] <D4rKHowL> sorry
[11:02] <sobersabre> do you have its manual, adam_
[11:02] <sobersabre> ?
[11:02] <adam_> no
[11:03] <sobersabre> adam_, do you have a computer ?
[11:03] <Mars__^> :[
[11:03] <adam_> haha
[11:03] <Mars__^> id doesent work
[11:03] <Mars__^> O adam czesc :)
[11:03] <D3vIN> my bipolars at its peak / im a demented freak/ fascinated by fat blonde with dimpled ass cheeks/
[11:03] <crtr> ha ha
[11:03] <D4rKHowL> is there any boot parameters to have a resolution of just 1024*768
[11:03] <Exc> Oh snap, I spoke too soon. Agreeing didn't actually start the installation process again.
[11:04] <sobersabre> adam_, google on your monitor model, and read which horizontal and vertical syncs it can work with.
[11:04] <mrchicago> hey
[11:04] <adam_> yes, that is what i chose in installation, i just need to know how to change that
[11:04] <Mars__^> so what can i do if ther is no manula entry to gedit
[11:04] <Mars__^> ?
[11:04] <sobersabre> then go into file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and set them as you've found.
[11:04] <adam_> on windows i run it at 1600x1200
[11:04] <mrchicago> is it possible to set up a site to sell linux cds
[11:04] <sobersabre> adam_, are you happy with windows ?
[11:04] <athlon> anyone know when we'll get the updated mozilla-thunderbird package ?
[11:04] <adam_> not really, thats why i am dual booting
[11:04] <Trashcan> making money off other people's free stuff
[11:04] <MadpilotPPC> mrchicago, it's already been done
[11:04] <adam_> i only use windows for games now
[11:04] <sobersabre> thenuke, ... hmm.. do as i say.
[11:04] <Trashcan> what a great plan
[11:04] <Trashcan> :(
[11:05] <MadpilotPPC> You can even buy Ubuntu CDs on EBay, which is fairly evil
[11:05] <sobersabre> Trashcan, what are u talking about ?
[11:05] <Trashcan> selling linux CDs
[11:05] <mbpillai> Lethargic17: try issuing command /etc/init.d/pptd stop
[11:05] <graig> when i look at the firestarter log,  when somethig is in the log, does that mean its blocked?  some are red, and some are black.
[11:05] <sobersabre> Trashcan, I know places in Russia where there's no fast internet.
[11:05] <Trashcan> hmm
[11:06] <Trashcan> good point
[11:06] <Mars__^> So what with my gedit
[11:06] <sobersabre> and they want linux. to download it with modem is to kill yourself. then need the CDs.
[11:06] <mrchicago> well, just a small one to make a llittle extra dough
[11:06] <ElkOS> I can't get the command key ^]  working in screen with gnome-terminal, the default ^a does work, but since that's bol in bash and emacs, I'd like to set the command char for screen to 'escape ^] x' - any ideas how to convince gnome-terminal to accept ^] ?
[11:06] <sobersabre> to get them there you need to pay to the guy that drives them.
[11:06] <mbpillai> Lethargic17: and then ifconfig -a
[11:06] <mrchicago> include like an extra cd with some cool games
[11:06] <sobersabre> Trashcan, so .. capisci ?
[11:06] <Trashcan> capisci?
[11:06] <sobersabre> "understood" ?
[11:06] <Trashcan> oh :p
[11:06] <Exc> From what I can tell its halting on language-pack-en-base because its 'untrusted' and even telling it 'Yes' to continue installation of that package doesn't help.
[11:06] <Trashcan> yeah
[11:06] <Trashcan> sure :)
[11:07] <D4rKHowL> ok... no one helps me
[11:07] <Ofe> Good morning. Could someone of you help me with a connectionspeed-problem? I have an external 56kbps voice/faxmodem so my maximum downloadspeed should be something like 5.6kb/s, but it's always 0.4-0.9kb/s, no matter where I load. Any solutions?
[11:07] <twysted> d4rkhowl
[11:07] <twysted> at the cd boot menu
[11:07] <sobersabre> adam_, so... after you know the sync rate, u need to also add a mode to your display. in xorg.conf
[11:07] <twysted> youll want to type "ubuntu vga=771"
[11:07] <twysted> that should fix that problem
[11:07] <adam_> i just want to edit it so i can use another size down
[11:07] <adam_> what is the cmd to edit the table?
[11:08] <sobersabre> it is not a table,
[11:08] <sobersabre> it is a text file.
[11:08] <adam_> xorg.conf?
[11:08] <graig> i have a question about firestarter.
[11:08] <sobersabre> you edit it with text editor.
[11:08] <sobersabre> adam_, yes.
[11:08] <adam_> is it gedit xorg.conf?
[11:09] <D4rKHowL> twisted: it didn't do any good... i do vga=771 and stil the ubuntu still didn't display properly
[11:09] <sobersabre> run editor with sudo, because only root can edit it. and, be VERY carefull. it can break your CRT, if you put bad values.
[11:09] <sobersabre> adam_, you can e.g. run:
[11:09] <sobersabre> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:09] <Trashcan> sudo gedit /usr/X11/xorg.conf
[11:09] <Trashcan> shoot... etc.
[11:09] <Trashcan> my bad
[11:09] <mrchicago> torcs and like neverputt and neverball runs slow on my laptop
[11:10] <sobersabre> Ofe, you might have 3 problems:
[11:10] <adam_> its not coming up
[11:10] <sobersabre> 1. bad cable
[11:10] <squid0> just trying one more time:
[11:10] <falcon3> what's a good kazaa alternative ?
[11:10] <sobersabre> 2. bad line
[11:10] <squid0> does anyone know about midi in ubuntu?
[11:10] <sobersabre> 3. bad service
[11:10] <D4rKHowL> twisted: my max display is just 1024*768 and i think ubuntu is starting with higher than that.... how can i lower the settings?
[11:10] <twysted> falcon, limewire
[11:10] <adam_> sobersabre, that file comes up empty
[11:10] <Trashcan> falcon: bittorrent, xdcc, limewire
[11:10] <falcon3> thx you guys
[11:11] <twysted> d4rkhowl  do you have ubuntu installed or are you trying to install it
[11:11] <squid0> no-one? do you guys not use midi at all??
[11:11] <D4rKHowL> am trying to install it
[11:11] <Mars__^> do you think i installed nvidia drivers without makink gedit?
[11:11] <graig> i have a question about firestarter, i was looking at the log, is everything in the log blocked?  why are certain things red colored?
[11:11] <Lethargic17> mbpillai, the first command doesn't work
[11:11] <sobersabre> adam_, copy-paste my message with sudo
[11:11] <falcon3> limewire isnt apt-get'able... :/
[11:11] <twysted> d4rkhowl, ok it should only start with a 800x600 it wouldnt start with anything too high, let me check something :)
[11:11] <Ofe> sobersabre: none of those. A computer with windows XP used to use the same cable and service. I'm not even sure what's the difference between line and cable. :\
[11:11] <D4rKHowL> am a previous windows user
[11:12] <sobersabre> Ofe, line is from your home to the Operator.
[11:12] <thoreauputic> graig: evrything you see is blocked and red means an attempt on a service port (eg ssh port 22 etc)
[11:12] <squid0> graig, be aware that if you're using a packaged firestarter version, it will likely run as a daemon upon startup.
[11:12] <sobersabre> and cable is from the connector in your home to the modem ( which can be broken in the wall or outside the wall )
[11:12] <thoreauputic> graig: I think anything below port 1024 would show red
[11:12] <sobersabre> Ofe, and with windows does it work better ?
[11:12] <squid0> this can be quite frustrating, as you may run into network 'issues' that are simply the firewall blocking silently
[11:12] <Lethargic17> can anyone tell me how i must install a network adapter driver?
[11:12] <Ofe> sobersabre: The windows XP-connection was working properly, max downloadspeed was that 5.6kb/s. I noticed a couple of ppl in the forums with the same problem.
[11:12] <D4rKHowL> twisted:am strying to install the 5.04 version on an AMD SEMpron 2200 with intergrated S3 video
[11:13] <adam_> sobersabre, that dont work
[11:13] <sobersabre> adam_, what "that"
[11:13] <Lethargic17> i don't understand the readme: http://users.skynet.be/info-seefeld/README
[11:13] <sobersabre> Ofe, which modem do you own ?
[11:13] <falcon3> limewire installation is an RPM... how do i use that in ubuntu ? :/
[11:13] <graig> does firestarter use iptables?
[11:13] <squid0> graig: i think so
[11:13] <graig> and does that mean that firestarter doesn't need to be running to have the firewall on?
[11:13] <mrchicago> alien i think
[11:14] <macguy> hey
[11:14] <thoreauputic> graig: yes
[11:14] <mrchicago> alien yad.rpm
[11:14] <Trashcan> falcon: alien
[11:14] <macguy> any mac users around here?
[11:14] <graig> ok, thats what i thought.
[11:14] <graig> thanks.
[11:14] <thoreauputic> graig: it starts on boot
[11:14] <adam_> sobersabre, the file comes up empty i mean completely empty
[11:14] <sobersabre> graig, there's not many firewall frontends in linux... checkpoint and iptables.
[11:14] <Ofe> sobersabre: I tried 7, 2 of them worked. Old ISA-modem worked but with this some downloadspeed problem. and now I'm usin A-link voice/fax 56000bps external modem.
[11:14] <falcon3> Trashcan: i'm a real human
[11:14] <thoreauputic> graig: see /etc/init.d/firestarter
[11:14] <Trashcan> no you aren't
[11:14] <Trashcan> now get in the basket and make my bike fly!
[11:14] <falcon3> well mostly
[11:14] <sobersabre> Ofe, there's no such chipset "a-link"
[11:14] <sobersabre> what's the chipset ?
[11:14] <mbpillai> Lethargic17: have a look at /etc/network/interfaces  and check any mapping is enabled
[11:14] <macguy> one question: If i install ubuntu on my mac will it erase my whole computer??
[11:15] <linner> thoreauputic: :)
[11:15] <linner> thoreauputic: how the hell are ya'?
[11:15] <thoreauputic> hey linner :)
[11:15] <adam_> thoreauputic, can you help me really quick?
[11:15] <sobersabre> what does it give with ATI commands ?
[11:15] <Ofe> sobersabre: wait a minute, I'll check that one again. the manufacturer is A-link.
[11:15] <adam_> how do i alter my xorg.conf to change my res?
[11:15] <thoreauputic> adam_: probably not -what's the issue :)
[11:15] <Trashcan> macguy: depends on if you have the mac partition taking up the entire disk
[11:15] <adam_> thoreauputic, want to change my screen res
[11:15] <thoreauputic> !tell adam_ about fixres
[11:15] <sobersabre> adam_, have you succeeded to see the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[11:15] <Lethargic17> mbpillai, access dinied :s
[11:15] <adam_> no, its empty
[11:15] <Trashcan> !tell macguy about partition
[11:16] <D4rKHowL> yeah me too... i want to change my screen res
[11:16] <macguy> no it's not taking up the entire disc
[11:16] <sobersabre> !tell sobersabre about fixres
[11:16] <Trashcan> bah.. bot doesn't know about partitioning?
[11:16] <Trashcan> macguy: you mean the entire disk is not *used*, or is the partition simply not sized to fill it?
[11:16] <macguy> i don't know
[11:16] <Ofe> sobersabre: A-link 5614RE, external. V.90 &K56Flex. Any better?
[11:17] <Trashcan> just having free space doesn't mean you can install ubuntu to it
[11:17] <D4rKHowL> ubuntu 5.04 doesn't install well on my system.... display would go out of range... and i don't know how to change screen res
[11:17] <sobersabre> Ofe, which ATI was this ?
[11:17] <macguy> i am not sure about the partition :S
[11:17] <Ofe> sobersabre: I'll just find you the link to the manufacturers site. :) a min please.
[11:17] <linner> hmm.... I'm not getting any messages this is weird.....
[11:18] <sobersabre> Ofe, which program you use to dial out ?
[11:18] <falcon3> Trashcan: did the alien thingy, now i get a directory.. what now ?
[11:18] <mbpillai> Lethargic17: access denied for which command
[11:18] <macguy> if it does erase tiger out of my mac i'll probably just install it on my junky pc :P
[11:18] <iiiears> I would like to install ut-install-GOTY.run  I think permissions/sudo is my trouble. Can anyone offer a tip?  a very short howto here http://pgshopping.com/mdkxp/?c=ttrls/utinstall
[11:18] <thoreauputic> linner: not receiving /msg ?
[11:18] <linner> thoreauputic: nope
[11:18] <Lethargic17> mbpillai /etc/network/interfaces
[11:18] <thoreauputic> linner: gah - use a real IRC client
[11:18] <twysted> D4rKHowL, i cannot find the answer you need, when you boot off the cd if y ou press F2, F3, F4 it should show you a option to change your resolution, i havent installed ubuntu recently so my mind is fuzzy on the cd booter
[11:18] <linner> thoreauputic: nor can i see what i've sent
[11:18] <linner> wird
[11:18] <linner> weird
[11:18] <Trashcan> i dunno falcon3, i was just pretending to know what I was talking about :)
[11:19] <Trashcan> shouldn't it have made a .deb?
[11:19] <linner> thoreauputic: i had to go back to windows on the lappy :(
[11:19] <thoreauputic> linner: oh dear :(
[11:19] <falcon3> dunno
[11:19] <linner> thoreauputic: I know
[11:19] <mbpillai> less /etc/network/interfaces
[11:19] <MadpilotPPC> linner, that might have to do with your freenode settings? msgs work fine in Opera on my usual machine...
[11:19] <D4rKHowL> what command should i input mr. twisted to change the resolution? any values aside from vga=771
[11:19] <iiiears> it stalls before it ever shows an interactive window.  any hints?
[11:20] <p00f> Ubuntu makes me feel alive, and sexy :)
[11:20] <macguy> anyone mind telling me how much linux market share is?
[11:20] <Ofe> sobersabre: I'm using the plugin in panel called "modem observer". and the link to the modem is: http://www.a-link.com/uk/5614RE.html
[11:20] <dell500> why would changing from KDE to Gnome delete a Documents folder i had containing some important stuff?
[11:20] <twysted> d4rkhowl it should tell you what to put for a basic vga support
[11:20] <falcon3> Trashcan: dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)
[11:20] <falcon3> dh_gencontrol: command returned error code 65280
[11:21] <falcon3> :(
[11:21] <Trashcan> uh oh, falcon3 :)
[11:21] <twysted> dell500 can u access the files on kde? or did you remove it from the system
[11:21] <falcon3> i've outsourced him
[11:21] <Trashcan> heh
[11:21] <Trashcan> built for the intel arch
[11:21] <afd_> why is not possible to open a pdf file from a vfs/ssh connection? This is possible using fish in kde...
[11:21] <falcon3> bastards :(
[11:21] <Trashcan> you're SOL unless you can recompile it :)
[11:21] <D4rKHowL> ok... thanks
[11:21] <falcon3> SOL ?
[11:21] <Trashcan> s*** outta luck
[11:21] <dell500> twysted, i'm not sure what happened, i know i didn't delete it
[11:22] <giuseppe> hu
[11:22] <falcon3> oh
[11:22] <No1Viking> !tell me about bin2iso
[11:22] <p00f> is Cinelerra in the Ubuntu apt- repository? I am thinking of installing Ubuntu again..
[11:22] <falcon3> gonna tell everyone that limewire sucks now... brb
[11:22] <AnkhWeasel> Gah. I asked a question like, an hour ago, and had to go away..missed the answer.
[11:23] <AnkhWeasel> How do you move a program from one section of the Application panel to another? (In GNOME - from Other to Games..)
[11:23] <twysted> delll500 try going back into kde and see if they are still there
[11:23] <falcon3> AnkhWeasel: scroll up :)
[11:23] <AnkhWeasel> Yeah, it appears to have cut it off already.
[11:23] <dell500> twysted, i'll try that
[11:23] <dell500> i was just wondering if there was a way to retrace my steps back to that like a save point lol
[11:24] <twysted> dell500, if they are there move them into just your home directory they might be saving in a .kde folder that you would normally not see in gnome
[11:24] <squid0> hi
[11:25] <squid0> gnome-video-thumbnailer is chewing cpu usage. what could this be?
[11:25] <twysted> that makes thumbnail images for video files
[11:25] <squid0> ok, thanks.
[11:25] <twysted> so if you have a folder full of videos you can see a image from a random part of the clip :)
[11:26] <squid0> but i've not got any file system windows open, so i can't understand why it's still motoring on
[11:26] <twysted> process must be hung up on something, restart X and you should be fine
[11:26] <squid0> can't i just kill it?
[11:26] <Waerner> Hmm, does anyone know the date for the Breezy-release?
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Oct 13
[11:27] <Waerner> thanks
[11:27] <squid0> i don't wanna have to restart x just cos of this
[11:27] <twysted> you can try that but it might make X go loopy
[11:27] <twysted> or rather gnome
[11:27] <squid0> what do you mean?
[11:27] <sobersabre> Ofe, so... what is the ttyS* the modem is on ?
[11:27] <Ofe> sobersabre: ttyS0
[11:27] <sobersabre> and what's the init string you're using ?
[11:27] <squid0> (loopy)
[11:27] <twysted> just give it a try squid
[11:28] <sobersabre> do you have minicom ?
[11:28] <squid0> ok
[11:28] <iiiears> thoreauputic - How is it going?    Are you using Breezy Badger?
[11:28] <thoreauputic> iiiears: nope - still comfortably on hoary :)
[11:28] <Ofe> sobersabre: I don't know what's a init string and I don't think I have minicom because I've never heard of it.
[11:28] <iiiears> Okay, Me too. - lol
[11:29] <squid0> twysted: lovely. i've got processing power again! ;)
[11:29] <twysted> squid0 , excellent!
[11:29] <squid0> thanks
[11:30] <twysted> welcome
[11:30] <Ofe> sobersabre: should I search synaptic for minicom? o.O
[11:30] <squid0> me? thanks
[11:30] <jose> hola
[11:31] <jose> soy espaol y tu
[11:31] <sobersabre> Ofe, don't bother: apt-get install minicom
[11:31] <daejavu> im downloading a file with extension ".pl" ... is that a linux executable ?
[11:31] <Venson> daejavu: that's a perl script
[11:31] <twysted> daejavu: its a perl file
[11:32] <sobersabre> daejavu, it is probably a perl program.. beware those .
[11:32] <sobersabre> they can be very nasty....
[11:32] <clast> hey, what are the new backports for breezy, since the unofficial ones are offline?
[11:32] <daejavu> well its a patch for Enemy Territory .. and it had that extension
[11:32] <daejavu> i just wanted to be sre im not downloading anything for winz
[11:32] <blenda> my apt is messed up... when i try to run apt-cache i get this error "E: Encountered a section with no Package: header \
[11:32] <blenda> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[11:32] <blenda> "
[11:32] <twysted> daejavu just make sure its from a trusted source
[11:33] <sobersabre> daejavu, it can be a windows perl script... perl is mostly independent...
[11:33] <blenda> it doesn't work with synaptic either
[11:33] <daejavu> how do i rrun it ?   just     sh fgl.pl ?
[11:33] <mbpillai> Lethargic17: issue the command " less /etc/network/interfaces"
[11:33] <sobersabre> daejavu, no perl fgl.pl
[11:33] <sobersabre> actually if you chmod +x it, you can simply run it via: ./fgl.pl
[11:33] <daejavu> cool ... thanks guyz !   btw anyone play EnemyTerritory ?
[11:34] <sobersabre> cool! btw, anyone pla ?
[11:34] <sobersabre> i mean play ?
[11:34] <sobersabre> :)
[11:34] <daejavu> yup .. lol
[11:34] <daejavu> and do we have a seperate channel on that ..  i got a sound problem with it :S
[11:35] <Ofe> sobersabre: I'm now downloading minicom with synaptic (apt-get install minicom gave an errormessage). I'll just install it and that's it?
[11:35] <clast> what are the new backports for breezy, since the unofficial ones are offline?
[11:35] <sobersabre> I am sure you run a pppd.
[11:35] <sobersabre> you need to look in the logs for pppd errors.
[11:36] <sobersabre> if there are such, you need to set manually: 1. connection protocol , 2. compression protocol 3. error correction protocol
[11:36] <ppz> Any Swedish guys in here ? I've been wresteling with locales and cant get my head round why my swedish chars wont work in irssi.
[11:36] <sobersabre> ppz, except the locale, you also need fonts...
[11:36] <Ofe> sobersabre: yes, I do run pppd. It's ppp0 in the options menu btw. does that matter?
[11:37] <ppz> sobersabre, ok. I'll check in to that.
[11:37] <sobersabre> Ofe, no. ppp0 is a name of the connection
[11:37] <adam_> guys, quick help again
[11:37] <blenda> ppz: i'm from sweden but i don't know much about irssi
[11:37] <adam_> enabling dma on my dvd rw drive
[11:37] <sobersabre> adam_, how's your resolution ?
[11:37] <brownie17> soo..... how do i install a .deb file?
[11:37] <adam_> i never got it straight... i edited the file, but it still wont come up
[11:37] <blenda> brownie17: "dpkg -i foo.deb"
[11:37] <adam_> no biggie
[11:37] <adam_> something i will work on later
[11:38] <adam_> theres other things i want first
[11:38] <adam_> like dvd burning
[11:38] <adam_> but
[11:38] <blenda> ppz: maybe this could be interesting http://qw.se/~hawk/charconv/
[11:38] <adam_> i cant enable dma on my dvdrw drive...
[11:38] <brownie17> blenda, what does the "-i" extension do?
[11:38] <Trashcan> -install
[11:38] <adam_> i did sudo /etc/hdparm.conf
[11:38] <adam_> and it doesnt come up
[11:38] <adam_> its weird
[11:39] <sobersabre> adam_, do it with hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[11:39] <mcphail> Hi everyone. How good is the support for PCI-X mobos / graphics cards (nVidia)?
[11:39] <adam_> kk
[11:39] <sobersabre> if it is IDE
[11:39] <sobersabre> and the reso: there are many redundant modes in xorg.conf. leave only those you need.
[11:40] <brownie17> blenda, i just installed a .deb file, how can i discover the filename of the executable? like the installed files. i want to know how to fun the program
[11:40] <adam_> sobersabre, for the flag, it says use -d
[11:40] <adam_> so the command would be what?
[11:40] <sobersabre> you can make a mode like:     SubSection "Display"
[11:40] <sobersabre>         Depth       24
[11:40] <sobersabre>         Modes       "1024x768"
[11:40] <sobersabre>     EndSubSection
[11:41] <sobersabre> adam_, do it with : hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd
[11:41] <adam_> i did
[11:41] <adam_> so did that enable it?
[11:41] <sobersabre> after run: hdparm -d /dev/dvd
[11:41] <adam_> ah
[11:41] <sobersabre> and see if yes.
[11:41] <brownie17>  can someone help me?, I just installed a .deb file, how can i discover the filename of the executable? like the installed files. i want to know how to fun the program
[11:41] <juliux> hi
[11:41] <sobersabre> bra1nf00d, dpkg -L debname
[11:42] <blenda> brownie17: try "dpkg --listfiles packagename" and "dpkg --help" for more info
[11:42] <juliux> has somebody a hp nx6110 an can tell me how good it runs with ubuntu?
[11:42] <adam_> sober, it keeps saying no
[11:42] <sobersabre> juliux, linuxlaptops can tell you about it.
[11:42] <blenda> and people, please be patient. there's no reason to ask the same question within a few minutes
[11:43] <blenda> if anybody knows they will answer you, but please give some time for people to find the answer
[11:43] <juliux> sobersabre, i know but i want to speak with somebody who use the hp ubuntu on it
[11:43] <brownie17> blenda, if i give you a pastebin of what came up, could you identify what command i should run to execute it?
[11:43] <sobersabre> juliux, is there no ubuntu feedback on your model in the site ?
[11:43] <adam_> sobersabre, still no
[11:43] <sobersabre> adam_, still no what ?
[11:43] <blenda> brownie17: sure
[11:43] <adam_> sobersabre, no dam
[11:43] <adam_> dma
[11:44] <sobersabre> adam_, what kind of DVD drive do you have ?
[11:44] <blenda> brownie17: look for a file in /usr/bin
[11:44] <adam_> its a dvdrw
[11:44] <adam_> 4x
[11:44] <sobersabre> SCSI/USB/IDE/external/internal ?
[11:44] <lhb> ?
[11:44] <adam_> sobersabre, ide
[11:44] <brownie17> blenda,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2711
[11:44] <adam_> sobersabre, internal
[11:44] <sobersabre> what is the output of hdparm -d /dev/dvd ?
[11:44] <juliux> sobersabre, yes there is one but he do not use the hp ubuntu
[11:44] <adam_> it says using-dma =0 off
[11:45] <adam_> sobersabre, it says using _dma =0 off
[11:45] <adam_> sobersabre, did it twice too
[11:45] <sobersabre> then run: hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd AS ROOOOOOTTTT!!!!
[11:46] <blenda> brownie17: what does "file /opt/MainActor/mactor" say?
[11:46] <sobersabre> understand: the regular user can run almost everything root can, but root can change some things.
[11:46] <brownie17> adam_,  type sudo before the command
[11:46] <sobersabre> brownie17, good point!
[11:46] <brownie17> blenda, /opt/MainActor/mactor: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[11:46] <adam_> sobersabre, doing it as root, it still says off
[11:46] <blenda> brownie17: that's your executable
[11:47] <sobersabre> adam_, maybe your BIOS doesn't allow DMA for CDROM. fix it.
[11:47] <brownie17> blenda, why is it in such a weird position? thankyou
[11:47] <adam_> ah
[11:47] <adam_> kk
[11:47] <adam_> brb
[11:47] <brownie17> sobersabre, maybe it is disabled because it is dangerous for his hardware, it can be so
[11:47] <blenda> brownie17: you're welcome. blame the one package maintainer :)
[11:47] <mbpillai> Lethargic17: remove pptpd by issuing the command "sudo apt-get remove pptpd" the check with the command "ifconfig -a" you can see th0 device
[11:47] <brownie17> sobersabre, that is why it is not enabled by default
[11:48] <sobersabre> brownie17, dvd is usually dma capable... don't you agree ?
[11:48] <sobersabre> it's not like an old cdrom drive.
[11:48] <brownie17> sobersabre, oh ok
[11:49] <blenda> brownie17: i seldom see packages installed in /opt nowadays, i think it's some old standard
[11:49] <brownie17> blenda, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2712
[11:49] <HappyFool> i think /opt is preferred by the LSB (i may be wrong)
[11:50] <Ofe> sobersabre: I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask something again. how do I check for errormessages of pppd? :)
[11:51] <HappyFool> Ofe: try 'plog', or look in /var/log/syslog
[11:51] <blenda> brownie17: to run a program that is not in your path you must either go to the dir and issue ./mactor or do /opt/MainActor/mactor
[11:52] <brownie17> blenda, is there a way i can make it start working by just typing mactor?
[11:54] <blenda> brownie17: add it to your path. which shell do you use?
[11:54] <talios> Does anyone know of any panarama photo tools in Ubuntu?  I've seen Hugin mentioned alot but no packages seem to be available :(
[11:54] <brownie17> blenda, just the standard gnome-terminal
[11:54] <blenda> brownie17: that's not your shell, that's your terminal emulator
[11:54] <brownie17> blenda, borne again
[11:54] <brownie17> blenda, bash
[11:55] <StarKruzr> hi guys.  I'm trying to change which version of gcc make uses.  how do I do this?
[11:55] <liable> it appears to only be #debian having the problem though..
[11:55] <StarKruzr> someone told me use export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-2.95 (for example), but that doesn't seem to do it.
[11:55] <LazyAngel> hi! does anyone know what cedega is? Does it cost money, or can it be downloaded for free?
[11:56] <brownie17> LazyAngel, free. it is an emulator for windows. alot like wine
[11:56] <StarKruzr> I think I have to create a symlink from something to something else, but I'm not sure how that works
[11:56] <deFrysk> cedega is free ?
[11:56] <Lethargic17> mbpillai: he can't find pptpd
[11:56] <afd_> brownie17, since when is cedega free?
[11:56] <deFrysk> since when ?
[11:56] <brownie17> LazyAngel, it's really a preference, but there are some programs that work with one, and not the other.
[11:56] <blenda> brownie17: okey. open ~/.bash_profile and look for something like PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" and change it to PATH=~/bin:/opt/MainActor/:"${PATH}"
[11:56] <sobersabre> Ofe, sudo less /var/log/messages
[11:56] <brownie17> afd_, it is not?
[11:56] <sobersabre> Ofe, search for pppd
[11:57] <afd_> I believe you can download the sources or such a thing, but it's not possible to get a binary from them
[11:57] <mahangu> are there any fancy gui tools i can apt-get?
[11:57] <mahangu> trying to get some friends to convert
[11:57] <brownie17> blenda, fraser@brown:~$ cd /.bash_profile
[11:57] <brownie17> bash: cd: /.bash_profile: No such file or directory
[11:57] <mahangu> wanna wow them a little :)
[11:57] <LazyAngel> i can't find where to download it from http://www.transgaming.com Only subscribe to some sort of service. But i know some of the source is based on wine
[11:57] <afd_> mahangu, synaptic
[11:57] <StarKruzr> mahangu: synaptic comes with Ubuntu
[11:57] <mahangu> like application switchers, desktop widgets
[11:57] <StarKruzr> oh
[11:58] <mahangu> :)
[11:58] <StarKruzr> hm
[11:58] <StarKruzr> that I don't know about.
[11:58] <StarKruzr> but, er, yes.  can anyone help me with my GCC question above?
[11:58] <LazyAngel> afd_: so you can download the source for free but not the binaris? Then they have hidden the source well. Do you know where i can find it?
[11:58] <brownie17> LazyAngel, well, even if cedega isn't free, wine is. it is available in the ubuntu repos, and it is probably more popular than cedega
[11:58] <blenda> brownie17: wrong path, don't forget the tilde: ~/.bash_profile
[11:58] <blenda> brownie17: and it's a file, not a directory, open it with a text editor
[11:59] <LazyAngel> brownie17: yes, but cedega has better support for games if i'm not wrong
[11:59] <brownie17> StarKruzr, you could just uninstall every other version but the one you want
[11:59] <nalioth> StarKruzr: when the bots started swarming. or didnt you notice all those joins/parts?
[11:59] <StarKruzr> I tried that, and it broke things.
[12:00] <StarKruzr> nalioth: are you answering my question from before in #ubuntu-unregistered?
[12:00] <brownie17> LazyAngel, hm... possibly, im no expert. just between you and me, legalities aren't everything, and something being illegal rather than obscure actually makes it easier to get
[12:00] <Ofe> sobersabre: another problem, one that I havent' faced before. I can't scroll down the message that command "sudo less /var/log/messages" gives. but the message continues as I make the root-window bigger. o.O
[12:00] <StarKruzr> because I did notice those.  jerks.
[12:00] <Ofe> sobersabre: nevermind, page down helps
[12:00] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: when you say that didn't work, what did you mean?
[12:00] <blenda> LazyAngel: i don't think it's free, but i think you can find it on dc or a bittorrent tracker
[12:01] <LazyAngel> brownie17: yes, i know. i can just download it from another site. But that might compromise the whole system. so i would rather use a legal one if it exist
[12:01] <StarKruzr> brownie, Happyfool: like I said, I think that leaves things broken.  I did that and I couldn't get anything to compile.  I know there is a way to do it with a symlink but I just don't know what it is.
[12:01] <nalioth> StarKruzr: yes i am
[12:01] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: what are you trying to compile?
[12:01] <StarKruzr> kernel 2.4.19.  it's for a research project.
[12:02] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: and 'make CC=gcc-2.95' doesn't work?
[12:02] <StarKruzr> I have a scheduler that I'm patching into the kernel and I am sort of learning as I go.
[12:02] <StarKruzr> no one told me about that.
[12:02] <StarKruzr> lemme try it.
[12:03] <brownie17> blenda, that did not work. i think i did it right, want a pastebin of the new file?
[12:03] <nalioth> StarKruzr: "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" or whatever didnt work? notice that you have to have the gcc version installed to be pointed to
[12:03] <Exc> I've managed to get Ubuntu installed, but it cannot start X. It would seem that it 'Can't find: PCI Mach64' at 5:0:0 or 5:0:1. This is weird, because I have a Radeon X800.
[12:03] <Exc> Might anybody have a suggestion?
[12:03] <blenda> brownie17: sure
[12:03] <StarKruzr> nalioth: right, that did not work.  and the version was installed.
[12:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Exc about fixres
[12:04] <brownie17> blenda, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2713
[12:04] <StarKruzr> also, if I am patching source into the kernel, at what stage do I do that?  after make dep but before make bzImage?
[12:04] <nalioth> StarKruzr: you are running it in a terminal, immediately preceding whatever business you want using gcc-2.95?
[12:04] <Exc> Thanks, friend. I'll take a look.
[12:04] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: before 'make dep', i would've thought
[12:05] <StarKruzr> nalioth: that's right
[12:05] <StarKruzr> HappyFool: okay
[12:05] <nalioth> StarKruzr: weird
[12:05] <blenda> brownie17: remove the ending slash, it should be "/opt/MainActor" not "/opt/MainActor/"
[12:05] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: what error did you get ? (don't paste here!)
[12:05] <blenda> brownie17: then logout and login again
[12:05] <brownie17> blenda, gdm? ok
[12:05] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: also, are you planning on using Xen or some similar means of testing the kernel?
[12:06] <lesshaste> has anyone got mount rainier support working?
[12:07] <HappyFool> what's mount rainier ?
[12:07] <pef> hello
[12:08] <StarKruzr> HappyFool: No, no Xen.  however, it just started working after putting that line into make.  w00t!
[12:08] <StarKruzr> although, Xen would be a good idea.
[12:08] <mirak> hi
[12:08] <lesshaste> HappyFool: it let's you use your cd rw as floppies
[12:08] <StarKruzr> of course I'd have to tell it to compile for that in make menuconfig I guess.
[12:08] <lesshaste> HappyFool:  provides transparency to the burning process basicallu
[12:09] <StarKruzr> uh oh
[12:09] <HappyFool> lesshaste: sorry, never heard of it (just did a google). has a weird name
[12:09] <StarKruzr> hot damn that was fast
[12:09] <afd_> "network transparency" is a joke with gnome 2.10... blah. I'm dissapointed
[12:09] <mirak> hey
[12:09] <Ofe> sobersabre: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2714 <- the message with pppd on it, latest.
[12:10] <StarKruzr> a winner is me!  ok, so where did it put the compiled kernel?  I did the compilation in my ~.
[12:10] <lesshaste> HappyFool: http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/75
[12:10] <StarKruzr> shouldn't I have a file called bzImage in there somewhere?  or is it vmlinuz?
[12:10] <gee_> re
[12:10] <mirak> I am trying to migrate a linux installation to another hard drive, but I fail to install grub on it, from the current linux installation, even by cchrooting to the other system. anyone have info about how doing that ?
[12:10] <lesshaste> http://www.mt-rainier.org/
[12:11] <HappyFool> lesshaste: maybe this will help? http://www.thehaus.net/AltOS/Linux/ht-mtrainier.shtml
[12:11] <daejavu> i need to make my own customer kernel .. a link  or a how-to  for it plz !
[12:11] <gazam> hey, could somebody help me change startup programs without the sessions program in gnome?
[12:11] <HappyFool> !tell daejavu about kernelhowto
[12:11] <gazam> I cant get past gdm because of xcompmanager and need to stop it from starting through the commandline
[12:12] <[LethAL] > How do I change an environment variable throught the command line?
[12:12] <lesshaste> HappyFool: thx... http://reactivated.net/software/packetwriting/ also seems to be important
[12:12] <daejavu> HappyFool, copy that !  thanks
[12:13] <StarKruzr> anyone?  Bueller?  where did my newly compiled kernel go?  there were no kpkgs here.
[12:13] <gee_> Can anybody tell me, how to ged rid of busybox-stuff? This slows booting extremely down.
[12:13] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: it's in arch/i386, i think
[12:13] <StarKruzr> gracias
[12:14] <lesshaste> maybe I should give in and go straight for dvd-ram?
[12:14] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: otherwise try 'find -iname bzImage'
[12:14] <mirak> I am trying to migrate a linux installation to another hard drive, but I fail to install grub on it, from the current linux installation, even by cchrooting to the other system. anyone have info about how doing that ?
[12:14] <[LethAL] > !tell mirak about grub
[12:14] <[LethAL] > mirak: Read about recovering Ubuntu from Windows, that should help
[12:14] <StarKruzr> HappyFool: just so you know, looks like it's in arch/i386/boot
[12:14] <[LethAL] > -should-
[12:14] <gazam> mirak are you trying to install hoary?
[12:14] <StarKruzr> in other words, I found it :D
[12:15] <StarKruzr> now all I have to do is figure out how to use it
[12:15] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: put it in /boot and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:15] <StarKruzr> ...
[12:15] <StarKruzr> it's that simple?
[12:15] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: you may also need to 'make modules' and 'make modules_install'; i don't know if you'll also need a initrd image
[12:15] <StarKruzr> question
[12:15] <StarKruzr> what will make modules_install do exactly?
[12:16] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: i suspect trying to run ubuntu on a 2.4 kernel will break in very interesting ways ;)
[12:16] <mirak> gazam: no
[12:16] <gazam> breezy then?
[12:16] <mirak> I am not trying to recover
[12:16] <mirak> I copy an install to another drive for another computer
[12:16] <nalioth> mirak: the procedure may work for your purpose
[12:16] <StarKruzr> Happy: I don't even need to get her into X on the 2.4 kernel.  all I need is a bash prompt
[12:17] <HappyFool> mirak: how about just reinstalling, and copying data (e.g., /home directories) across?
[12:17] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: regardless, i think you will have some issues
[12:17] <mirak> HappyFool: that's to long
[12:17] <gazam> mirak, this probably wont work because grub usually installs itself into the mbr... you will have to reinstall grub I think
[12:17] <StarKruzr> hrm
[12:17] <HappyFool> mirak: an install takes what, 30 minutes?
[12:17] <StarKruzr> ... crap
[12:17] <Alex_BO> What I need to share between two Linux Boxes?Do I need SAMBA?
[12:17] <nightswim> nfs
[12:18] <mirak> HappyFool: I must download and burn the CD
[12:18] <nalioth> Alex_BO: NFS
[12:18] <HappyFool> mirak: ah
[12:18] <StarKruzr> are there any distributions that still use 2.4 by default?
[12:18] <nalioth> Alex_BO: samba is a windows crutch
[12:18] <thoreauputic> StarKruzr: slackware I think
[12:18] <Alex_BO> nalioth, i guess "man nfs"
[12:18] <StarKruzr> but it's a *good* Windows crutch, nalioth
[12:19] <nalioth> Alex_BO: there are also howtos in wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[12:19] <StarKruzr> thoreau: thanks
[12:19] <gazam> mirak... there are other ways to install grub, but it will always involve downloading and burning a cd, because the alternative is using a LiveCD to reinstall GRUB
[12:19] <Alex_BO> nalioth, tnks
[12:19] <nalioth> StarKruzr: i havent owned a windows box in years, and dont like using microsoft standards in any fashion
[12:19] <StarKruzr> but for now I guess I have to put slack on this dev one
[12:19] <thoreauputic> StarKruzr: last time I looked the default for slackware was 2.4.29
[12:20] <mirak> gazam: but can't I use my running linux as a livecd ?
[12:20] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: was ext3 not an option for 2.4.19 ?
[12:20] <StarKruzr> 2.4.31
[12:20] <mirak> gazam: I can chroot to the new system
[12:20] <StarKruzr> HappyFool: I guess it doesn't hurt to try it.
[12:21] <StarKruzr> (at least, I *hope* it doesn't hurt to try it)
[12:21] <HappyFool> heh
[12:21] <HappyFool> i wonder if xen supports 2.4 kernels
[12:21] <StarKruzr> it does
[12:21] <StarKruzr> the first XenoLinux ran on a modified 2.4
[12:21] <gazam> :/ now your confusing me... but in any case I am not an expert on GRUB installations, but I did have a GRUB problem just 2 days ago which made me look up some information about fixing  it. I cam across a thread on ubuntuforums with various ways to reinstall it so I will try to find that for you
[12:22] <brownie17> Gaim won't sign on, it gets to "sending cookie" then it just sits ther
[12:22] <StarKruzr> you might possibly have to version back Xen, but it at least worked at one time
[12:22] <HappyFool> brownie17: it's working for me
[12:22] <StarKruzr> the reason Xen is not an option is because I have exacting scheduler requirements - I'm testing and modifying a real-time scheduler
[12:23] <nct> Hi, does anyone knows if ubuntu 5.10 will have updaetd DRI snapshots included ?
[12:23] <brownie17> HappyFool, thanks
[12:23] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: ah? what application?
[12:25] <brownie17> everyone wuit...now!
[12:25] <brownie17> quit*
[12:27] <NightLord> when i try to run xvidtune it says "Please install the program before using
[12:27] <NightLord> " why?
[12:29] <BusMaster> my toshiba tecra a3 laptop running hoary does not wake up after I suspend to ram. there are no errors in /var/log/acpid. how should I start approaching the problem?
[12:31] <StarKruzr> HappyFool: we're trying to see if we can make an m,k scheduler that drops jobs intelligently with a view toward better power management
[12:31] <StarKruzr> could be a lot of applications if we can make it work right
[12:31] <StarKruzr> also, what are initrds for?
[12:32] <StarKruzr> I'm noticing here that I don't really have one so much.
[12:32] <eliphas_> hello
[12:32] <StarKruzr> or rather, I do, but it seems to be for 2.6.
[12:32] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: i'm not clear on the details; it's an initial ramdisk. i think it contains some initial drivers/setup scripts for the boot
[12:32] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: i *think* mkinitrd will make one for you
[12:32] <mahangu> any tools that i can get via synaptic / apt-get that are flashy? want to wow some windows user friends
[12:33] <nalioth> BusMaster: check bugzilla.ubuntu.com and file a bug if your problem isnt there
[12:33] <mahangu> i once saw a guy use a really fancy window switcher on debian
[12:33] <HappyFool> !tell StarKruzr about kernelhowto
[12:33] <mirak> are you sure there is LVM modules into kernel initrd ?
[12:33] <mahangu> it was gnome desktop too
[12:33] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: check out that wiki page
[12:33] <BusMaster> ok
[12:33] <mirak> anyone uses LVM with ubuntu ?
[12:34] <StarKruzr> the only ones I see in synaptic are for CDs
[12:34] <StarKruzr> and, ok
[12:34] <thoreauputic> mahangu: 3ddesk perhaps
[12:34] <mahangu> thoreauputic, thanks :)
[12:34] <mahangu> btw i installed enlightenment yesterday via synaptic
[12:34] <mahangu> and it totally screwed up my boot procedure
[12:34] <mahangu> it uninstalled some linux image files
[12:34] <mahangu> so i had to reinstall b/c i couldnt even apt get
[12:34] <mahangu> my wifi was borked
[12:35] <mahangu> in future what can i do in a case like that
[12:35] <mahangu> is there some resetting i can do somewhere?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> mahangu: you were using some 3rd party repo, right?
[12:37] <thoreauputic> mahangu: btw the package is actually called 3ddesktop
[12:38] <eliphas_> hello my computer is a i686 but when I do a uname -a I have a i3683 kernel
[12:38] <eliphas_> how can I downlaod the poper one please?
[12:38] <eliphas_> proper
[12:38] <HappyFool> install the linux-686 package
[12:38] <thoreauputic> eliphas_: apt-cache search linux-image
[12:39] <thoreauputic> eliphas_: or what HappyFool said :)
[12:39] <daejavu> im trying to run a .pl file  and heres the output   "Unrecognized character \x03 at fh2.pl line 1."
[12:39] <daejavu> what to do ?
[12:39] <thenuke> linux-image-686 should be enough I guess
[12:39] <eliphas_> ok thanks guys
[12:39] <nalioth> daejavu: your perl script is not written correctly
[12:40] <HappyFool> linux-686 will get you -restricted-modules too
[12:40] <daejavu> nalioth,  how do i get that fixed ?
[12:41] <sobersabre> guys, where can i check which laptops support suspend to RAM already ?
[12:41] <sobersabre> ( in ubuntu ) ?
[12:41] <nalioth> daejavu: learn perl and correct the syntax
[12:43] <StarKruzr> HappyFool: it laughed at me when I tried to boot, but at least it didn't trash anything
[12:44] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: it laughed? your machine is possessed? ;)
[12:44] <StarKruzr> pretty much
[12:44] <joe_alf> i run the command 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4'. the question is how do i remove it. do i have to run 'export CC='
[12:44] <StarKruzr> it told me not to quit my day job
[12:44] <HappyFool> heh
[12:44] <StarKruzr> sadly, this IS my day job ;_;
[12:44] <HappyFool> did it even get the kernel loaded, or did you get a grub error?
[12:44] <StarKruzr> joe: when you restart, that environment variable will restart itself
[12:45] <StarKruzr> no, it loaded the kernel!
[12:45] <HappyFool> oh?
[12:45] <nalioth> joe_alf: it removes itself when you close the terminal
[12:45] <StarKruzr> but it was all like "hey dumbass, you need to set a root= option because otherwise I have no freaking clue where to start loading stuff"
[12:45] <HappyFool> yeah, use the other entries in menu.lst for examples
[12:45] <bimberi> joe_alf: unset CC
[12:46] <StarKruzr> I think I need to make an initrd
[12:46] <StarKruzr> or possibly just use one of the 2.6 ones
[12:46] <HappyFool> or read 'info grub' (you may need to install grub docs)
[12:46] <joe_alf> bimberi,  thanks
[12:46] <bimberi> joe_alf: yw :)
[12:46] <mirak> anyone uses LVM with ubuntu ?
[12:46] <HappyFool> no, you just need a root=/dev/hd* in the menu.lst file, i think
[12:46] <StarKruzr> oh
[12:46] <StarKruzr> really?
[12:46] <HappyFool> um
[12:46] <StarKruzr> that would be supremely easy
[12:46] <HappyFool> maybe
[12:46] <StarKruzr> heh
[12:47] <HappyFool> yeah, i think that's right
[12:47] <StarKruzr> ok
[12:47] <HappyFool> it's a kernel option
[12:47] <StarKruzr> I know I'm supposed to be a dirty linux hippie but I need to shower and go to bed already
[12:47] <StarKruzr> night people
[12:47] <HappyFool> see about line 44 in menu.lst -- there's an example there
[12:47] <StarKruzr> HappyFool, thanks again
[12:47] <HappyFool> chrs dude. good luck ;)
[12:49] <sobersabre> mirak, what's the problem with lvm ?
[12:49] <mirak> sobersabre: it can find my /
[12:49] <zertox> does standard install of ubuntu support framebuffer?
[12:49] <StarKruzr> crap
[12:50] <mirak> sobersabre: I try some stuffs, I reboot
[12:50] <StarKruzr> I go to email my advisor and naturally the IMAP server has to choose this moment to crap the bed
[12:50] <sobersabre> mirak, do you load initrd ?
[12:50] <sobersabre> hm
[12:51] <sobersabre> Ofe, you need to make pppd more verbose. the log you've pasted contains a normal data. nothing's wrong.
[12:51] <sobersabre> Ofe, now. Have you connected with this exactly setup with windows and it simply ran OK ?
[12:51] <sobersabre> (if you lie, whatever I do, won't help :) )
[12:52] <scapor> How do I put photos on my iPod ? I can mount it, I put photos on it but my ipod still says there are no photos
[12:52] <sobersabre> scapor, is ipod able to display photos ?
[12:52] <scapor> sobersabre: yeah
[12:52] <silwo1> is there somebody else except me who can't write cds using nautilus in breezy?
[12:52] <StarKruzr> what's that command that commits data to disk?
[12:52] <scapor> sobersabre: I paid enough money for it ;)
[12:52] <StarKruzr> sync?
[12:53] <StarKruzr> that might do it, scapor
[12:53] <StarKruzr> it might be buffering the write
[12:53] <sobersabre> hm, is it able to show evrything ( all available formats ) ?
[12:53] <sobersabre> scapor, you've umounted ipod to see the photos or is it still connected ?
[12:53] <scapor> anyway .. any iPod photo/nano/whatever_that_can_show_photos owners here ?
[12:53] <scapor> sobersabre: I unmounted it .. went to the photo menuy
[12:54] <scapor> but nothing in there
[12:54] <sobersabre> hm.. so is it able to display that format ?
[12:54] <scapor> sobersabre: I tried jpg's ..
[12:54] <bimberi> StarKruzr: yep, sync flushes the cache to disk
[12:54] <scapor> sobersabre: must support it, right ?
[12:54] <NightLord> when i try to run xvidtune it says "Please install the program before using
[12:54] <sobersabre> scapor, no "must"
[12:54] <NightLord> " why?
[12:54] <StarKruzr> so maybe when scapor tries to write his pictures to the iPod, it's buffering it and not putting it in the filesystem
[12:54] <sobersabre> maybe apple want you to use only tiff pictures...
[12:55] <StarKruzr> it could be an artifact of whatever interface they use to talk to the iPod
[12:55] <sobersabre> scapor, check tha manual...
[12:55] <scapor> sobersabre: nope .. they can connect to cameras directlu
[12:55] <StarKruzr> or I could be talking out my ass, too.  crap I'm tired
[12:55] <scapor> cameras who use jpg's
[12:55] <sobersabre> is it possible you mounted ipod read-only ?
[12:56] <sobersabre> or mounted a disk-on-key in the same mount point....
[12:56] <scapor> sobersabre: nope .. I wrote the files on it
[12:56] <scapor> scapor: I could seethe files again the next mount
[12:56] <sobersabre> then you should take a little puppet of an ipod, and stick little needles into it.
[12:56] <scapor> hehe
[12:57] <Trackilizer> Hey guys.
[12:57] <Trackilizer> I have a Non-ubuntu question for school.
[12:57] <Trackilizer> How much would a 33tyrabyte server cost?
[12:57] <StarKruzr> Trackilizer: Just Say No
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> if i route 443 to my flatmate's windows pc would he get a virus? iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING 1 -p tcp --dport 443 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.1
[12:58] <Trackilizer> What do you mean say no?
[12:58] <lesshaste> Trackilizer: it really depends on what extras you are paying for
[12:58] <Trackilizer> I mean the hardware.
[12:58] <lesshaste> Trackilizer: just the storage is easy to calculate
[12:58] <StarKruzr> nevermind, you're from Germany and were never exposed to that particular American governmental idiocy :)
[12:58] <scapor> Trackilizer: with or without windows server license ? :)
[12:58] <Trackilizer> with
[12:58] <lesshaste> Trackilizer: no I mean what extra hardware... raid, hot swapping, power supply redundancy etc.
[12:58] <sobersabre> Ofe, how did you test your connection speed ?
[12:58] <paulshendrick> does anyone know how i can unmount my ipod? i try to, but it still says do not disconnect
[12:58] <Trackilizer> Some guy bought this 33TB server and i want to know how much he paid for it.
[12:59] <HappyFool> ask him
[12:59] <lesshaste> Trackilizer: how would we know how much someone else paid for something!?! :)
[12:59] <_jason> Hey everybody.  I currently have Ubuntu and Windows Xp on a dual boot with a fat32 partition for sharing.  I'm enjoying Ubuntu and would like to shrink the XP partition down and make Ubuntu's parition larger.  What's the easiest/safest way to do this?
[12:59] <sobersabre> Trackilizer, what does it have to do with school ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[12:59] <Trackilizer> Well, what do you think something like that would cost?
[12:59] <lsuactiafner> i need a 5TB serve.
[12:59] <Trackilizer> Because that's what we have to find out.
[01:00] <HappyFool> _jason: you can try booting off the live-cd and using gparted (i think it's on the live-cd)
[01:00] <Trackilizer> How much a 33TB would cost.
[01:00] <HappyFool> Trackilizer: newegg.com
[01:00] <Trackilizer> The hardware that is.
[01:00] <HappyFool> Trackilizer: this is more than slightly off-topic
[01:00] <StarKruzr> jason: qtparted or gparted can do it, just do a defrag on the XP partition first to move data to the beginning of the disk
[01:00] <paulshendrick> anyone?
[01:00] <sobersabre> Trackilizer, like "that" ... you're not discribing the system any more...
[01:00] <sobersabre> paulshendrick, then don't disconnect...
[01:01] <Trackilizer> Erm.. all i know is that it's a 33TB server the hardware that is.
[01:01] <paulshendrick> sobersabre, erm, so how do i take the ipod into another room?
[01:01] <Goek> how do i install a rpm file?
[01:01] <Trackilizer> And we are supposed to find out how much that would cost.
[01:01] <sobersabre> bring a room to the ipod ;-)
[01:01] <Goek> i wanna install limewire
[01:01] <HappyFool> !tell Goek about alien
[01:01] <paulshendrick> so in other words - ubuntu doesn't know how to eject something?
[01:01] <sobersabre> Trackilizer, go for IBM, EMC and HP sites and search for storage solutions.
[01:01] <_jason> HappyFool, StarKruzr: Is it ok to get gparted through synaptic and use my Ubuntu install or is it preferrable to use it with the liveCD?
[01:02] <sobersabre> Trackilizer, you can google on SAN equipment.
[01:02] <nalioth> Goek: gtk-gnutella has the same functionality as limewire and is available via synaptic
[01:02] <StarKruzr> _jason: in fact you may have to do two or three defrags before it all gets shifted enough that you can start changing the partitions around.  unfortunately I don't think the parteds can move Windows data around themselves
[01:02] <boxerboy29> anyone know the name of package that gives you debian program list in applications on breezy?
[01:02] <^AnK^> !ping me
[01:02] <ubotu> ^AnK^: Are you on ritalin?
[01:02] <HappyFool> _jason: resizing mounted ("live") partitions is not a good idea
[01:02] <Trashcan> haha
[01:02] <HappyFool> _jason: hence using the live-cd is a good idea
[01:02] <_jason> StarKruzr:  how would I check that all the XP data is in fact shifted to the beginning?
[01:02] <StarKruzr> _jason: look at the map of data when you go to defrag the drive
[01:03] <_jason> HappyFool:  ok I'll burn a live cd
[01:03] <StarKruzr> it's a crappy map, but it gives you a general idea of where the bits are living
[01:03] <_jason> StarKruzr:  so that would be in gparted, ok thanks
[01:03] <StarKruzr> nonononono
[01:03] <^AnK^> ritalin?
[01:03] <HappyFool> _jason: first check that it has gparted
[01:03] <StarKruzr> that would be in XP
[01:03] <StarKruzr> defrag it in XP first
[01:03] <jakester> What is the command to list all pnp isa devices on a system?
[01:04] <HappyFool> i think gparted can kind of show where the data is (maybe i'm wrong?)
[01:04] <_jason> StarKruzr:  ok defrag in XP, then there is some way in the defrag utility to check that all the data was moved to the beginning then?
[01:04] <Trackilizer> So, what would you guys thing a 33TB server would cost?
[01:04] <nalioth> HappyFool: nope. just partitions
[01:04] <StarKruzr> _jason: unfortunately you can't tell it "move all my data to the beginning of the partition," it just sort of does it by itself, but only half-assedly
[01:04] <_jason> StarKruzr:  lol ok
[01:04] <Goek> thanks.
[01:04] <StarKruzr> this is why you have to do it repeatedly sometimes in order to get it to behave itself :)
[01:05] <globule> Hi ! All
[01:05] <Goek> i've had problems with gtk-gnutella before, but i'll give it a try
[01:05] <StarKruzr> jason: good luck!
[01:05] <_jason> StarKruzr, HappyFool: well I do have a 31GB share.  It may be safer to shrink that down and reformat the rest of it and then join it to the Ubuntu partition.  Would you agree?
[01:05] <sleon|tuX> hallo
[01:05] <sleon|tuX> i have a question
[01:05] <Trashcan> heya
[01:06] <Trashcan> ask away
[01:06] <HappyFool> _jason: 'safest' is back all personal data up first
[01:06] <sleon|tuX> can someone do for me : grep pangox /usr/lib/pkgconfig/*\.pc |grep Requires
[01:06] <_jason> HappyFool:  yep I have that done, I did that before installing Ubuntu itself ;)
[01:06] <HappyFool> _jason: also, you can maybe remount /home on a new partition, instead of resizing
[01:06] <sleon|tuX> and gives me output to pastebin?
[01:07] <Trashcan> sure thing
[01:07] <_jason> StarKruzr, HappyFool: alright thanks for the info guys
[01:07] <Trashcan> no results, sleon
[01:07] <sleon|tuX> Trashcan, interesting
[01:07] <boxerboy29> shouldnt a | be after grep?
[01:08] <sleon|tuX> Trashcan, do you have /usr/lib/pkgconfig/pangox.pc?
[01:08] <Trashcan> no
[01:08] <Trashcan> :p
[01:08] <anatole> anyone knows a tools which is similar to spacemonger in windows? that displays the contents of a hard drive graphically so it's easy to see what uses much place
[01:09] <boxerboy29> anyone have a clue what package adds the debian program list to applications in breezy?
[01:10] <sleon|tuX> Trashcan, which version of gtk do are you using?
[01:11] <Trashcan> i.....don't know :)
[01:11] <nalioth> anatole: xdiskusage or discus
[01:11] <anatole> wow thank you nalioth
[01:12] <sleon|tuX> Trashcan, it is something like: dpkg -l *gtk*|grep ^ii
[01:12] <locomorto> boxerboy29: eh
[01:12] <locomorto> !tell boxerboy29 about repos
[01:12] <boxerboy29> all my repos are enabled
[01:13] <locomorto> Then what is the problem?
[01:13] <Trashcan> libgtk2.0-0                   2.8.4-0ubuntu2
[01:13] <locomorto> you can't safely use the debain repos in ubuntu
[01:13] <locomorto> and those have virtualy everything debian has
[01:13] <locomorto> Trashcan: and...
[01:14] <locomorto> Trashcan: nvm
[01:14] <bjv> nForce4, can anyone here elaborate on what this chipset can do out-of-the-box under Ubuntu?
[01:14] <Trashcan> ;)
[01:14] <locomorto> gotta read
[01:14] <Trashcan> it's ok, im tired too
[01:14] <sleon|tuX> Trashcan, thank you
[01:14] <bjv> because my old AC97 audio is kind of flaky and im looking at upgrades..
[01:14] <locomorto> bjv: if you want good audio get a Audigy ZS or somesucg
[01:14] <boxerboy29> everytime i install bitchx and alot of other programs it doesnt show up in menu sometimes it adds a debian programs list to menu so i can use said packages and it didnt this time so i asking what is the package name to add that debian list to menu list so i can access those programs
[01:14] <locomorto> somesuch*
[01:15] <locomorto> oh!
[01:15] <locomorto> hold on
[01:15] <boxerboy29> ty
[01:15] <locomorto> !tell boxerboy29 about smeg
[01:15] <boxerboy29> ok ty ill check it out
[01:16] <locomorto> You can then add your own Gnome menu entries
[01:16] <eipa> hi. can anyone check out this forum thread, and help me out? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70772
[01:16] <nalioth> boxerboy29: console programs WONT show up in the menu
[01:17] <boxerboy29> that could be a good reason but even web browsers dont show up like lynx
[01:17] <bjv> locomorto: yeah something with capabilities like the Audigy2 ZS is what id want.
[01:18] <nalioth> boxerboy29: lynx is a console application
[01:18] <boxerboy29> oh i didnt know that
[01:18] <boxerboy29> ok thank you
[01:18] <locomorto> bjv: your not going to find it intergrated
[01:18] <bjv> guess im probably not going to find that in onboard though. :P
[01:18] <bjv> yeah. :(
[01:18] <arwate> where has the command mkdirhier gone? its missing after the breezy update
[01:18] <boxerboy29> so just type the program in console to run them?
[01:18] <nalioth> boxerboy29: yes
[01:18] <locomorto> hey atleast audio works great this way
[01:18] <locomorto> ie no problems with esd
[01:18] <ablyss> how come the clock applet in breezy is not transparent like in previous versions of ubuntu?
[01:18] <boxerboy29> ok thank you
[01:19] <locomorto> ablyss: it was transperant before?
[01:19] <locomorto> ablyss: O.o
[01:19] <ablyss> very much so
[01:19] <locomorto> ablyss: If you want something transparent use gdesklets
[01:19] <arwate> also, after the update, the development libraries of the libsdl packages where missing
[01:19] <locomorto> its superkaramba for gnome
[01:19] <markhxx> Is there any document/anything that would help me convince corporate types to use Ubuntu? They don't like the name(!)
[01:20] <ablyss> oh i cant stand superkaramba
[01:20] <locomorto> CentOS
[01:20] <locomorto> Whitebox
[01:20] <locomorto> There probably more up there alley
[01:20] <locomorto> or maybe redhat if there the if its free it must be crap line
[01:20] <ablyss> i just wanna use the gnome clock applet with transperancy
[01:21] <ablyss> but no biggie, everything else works great
[01:21] <markhxx> The problem is specifically the name - it's felt to be 'not appropriately corporate'. I was hoping I could say 'well, company X uses it' to start with.
[01:21] <thoreauputic> markhxx: look up "ubuntu" on wikipedia - if they don't get it they are brain dead
[01:21] <Fraeon> Microsoft uses Ubuntu for their workstations
[01:22] <locomorto> markhxx: download ubuntu source
[01:22] <thoreauputic> markhxx: point out the PR advantages of the meaning :)
[01:22] <locomorto> markhxx: change artwork
[01:23] <locomorto> markhxx: release under 'appropiatly corporate' name
[01:23] <markhxx> Fraeon, that's great to know. thoreauputic:I've partially done that, but it's a good idea
[01:23] <locomorto> use ubuntu repos
[01:23] <HappyFool> heh. tried to play maniac mansion with wine, and the gnome taskbars appeared on top of it (in 320x200 resolution)
[01:23] <searcher`> markhxx: that's actually a problem for a lot of the OS software, the names people give their projects
[01:23] <Fraeon> markhxx, I was obviously joking
[01:23] <markhxx> locomorto:Yeah, that was my thought too - but it seems a bit dirty :)
[01:23] <markhxx> Fraeon:Oh really? ;)
[01:23] <Fraeon> Indeed.
[01:24] <Fraeon> Though I wouldn't be surprised if they did do that
[01:24] <markhxx> They do have internal Linux guys, but I can't remember what they use. Gentoo, maybe
[01:24] <searcher`> microsoft used to run hotmail on freebsd servers
[01:24] <searcher`> but they switched to 2k AS a few years ago
[01:24] <ablyss> heard they used solaris
[01:25] <ablyss> few years ago
[01:25] <markhxx> searcher`:Yeah, whoever came up with (for example) the 'gimp' name probably held that project back enormously, IMHO. Thanks for the help guys, I might have to do a customise job.
[01:25] <sarlacc54> i just loaded ubuntu onto a PC... did i miss setting up the "root" password?
[01:25] <sarlacc54> :(
[01:25] <searcher`> i'm running ubuntu hoary, using the gimp, gaim, phoenix^firebird^firefox
[01:25] <searcher`> :-)
[01:26] <searcher`> ever say that out loud
[01:26] <searcher`> hehe
[01:26] <Trashcan> !tell sarlacc54 about sudo
[01:26] <ablyss> sarlacc54, no. ubuntu uses sudo for 99.99% of su things
[01:26] <markhxx> you use sudo sarlacc54
[01:26] <sarlacc54> as the root account?
[01:26] <thoreauputic> !tell sarlacc54 about root
[01:26] <Goek> i wanna install epiphany, but synaptic asks for a cd, that i have given a friend. What do i do?
[01:26] <markhxx> example: sudo ls --> ls runs as root
[01:26] <thoreauputic> !root
[01:26] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:26] <locomorto> Goek: open synaptic
[01:26] <locomorto> go repos
[01:26] <Trashcan> sudo -i = complete root shell
[01:26] <markhxx> Goek:edit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[01:26] <locomorto> and disable the CD one
[01:27] <mahangu> uncomment t
[01:27] <Trashcan> if you really really must have root
[01:27] <Trashcan> sudo passwd root
[01:27] <mahangu> *it
[01:27] <Trashcan> your password, root password twice
[01:27] <ablyss> su "bob" will ask for bobs password and magically switch you into bobs account via the shell
[01:27] <Trashcan> right
[01:27] <Trashcan> su 'root' won't do anything until you set a passowrd
[01:28] <Trashcan> sudo -i or sudo -s will drop you into a shell with root privs
[01:28] <mahangu> can i have different wallpapers for each desktop?
[01:28] <luzbelito> hi guys. i had problems to surf web pages that uses flash. mozilla get blocked. any help?
[01:28] <Goek> what's repos?
[01:28] <ablyss> interesting Trashcan
[01:28] <sarlacc54> trashcan I R confused
[01:29] <mahangu> luzbelito, need to install the plugin
[01:29] <thoreauputic> !tell Goek about repos
[01:29] <mahangu> let firefox do that for you
[01:29] <Trashcan> the security model is such that nothing runs under the root account
[01:29] <mahangu> click 'install missing plugins'
[01:29] <Fraeon> Question: is beagle a performance hit?
[01:29] <Trashcan> this means, if somebody compromises a program like apache, they do not get root privileges
[01:29] <sarlacc54> trashcan what account do you use to install the updates?
[01:29] <Trashcan> you use the 'sudo' command
[01:29] <Fraeon> As in a noticable one
[01:29] <Trashcan> it executes a single command with root privileges
[01:30] <sege> does breezy work ok now? just minor lovely bugs?
[01:30] <ablyss> works nice using gnome
[01:30] <sege> not kde?
[01:30] <searcher`> Trashcan: apache still has a single process running as root, otherwise it can't bind to a privileged port
[01:30] <Trashcan> 'sudo apt-get install xxx' runs apt-get, and ONLY apt-get, with root privileges
[01:30] <searcher`> Trashcan: it does drop the privileges of the other threads
[01:30] <ablyss> kubuntu breezy worked nice too
[01:30] <Trashcan> thanks searcher- didn't know that
[01:31] <nalioth> sege: works nicely. only small lovely bugs
[01:31] <ablyss> sege, just xfce will lock the system, for me at least
[01:31] <luzbelito> mahangu, yeah. i installed the plug in. but when i see web pages with a lot of flash, computers doesnt works fine and i must close and open mozilla again. pls help !
[01:31] <sege> nalioth: thanks, i'm sick and tired of my computor working like a charm, i have to destroy it with something. =)
[01:32] <ablyss> can literally watch the memory meter raise until no memory and system grinds to a halt
[01:33] <searcher`> ablyss: do you know the program that's causing the memory leak?
[01:33] <nalioth> sege: try redhat
[01:33] <Trashcan> lawl
[01:33] <ablyss> searcher`, i am pretty sure it is xorg threads
[01:33] <Trashcan> this is going to be exciting
[01:34] <_jason> how can I erase a cd-rw disc in Ubuntu?
[01:34] <Trashcan> http://nasm.sourceforge.net/doc/html/nasmdoci.html
[01:34] <Trashcan> i get to make that
[01:34] <Trashcan> into XML
[01:34] <Trashcan> :9
[01:34] <Trashcan> :(
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[01:34] <sege> nalioth: haha, running Tao (rebuilt rhel 3/4) at work on ~200 boxes, works fine. sorry to tell. =)
[01:34] <searcher`> Trashcan: what, the webpage?
[01:34] <ablyss> afkfab
[01:35] <Trashcan> making a NASM syntax file for gtksourceview
[01:35] <Trashcan> /usr/share/gtksourceview-1.0/language-specs
[01:36] <Trashcan> funny that theres a def in there for MSIL, but no form of ASM
[01:36] <werto> yo all ^_^
[01:37] <Trashcan> howdy
[01:37] <werto> yo Trashcan
[01:38] <werto> i don't know why the time of my machine run! _ and an mp3 playng too! _
[01:38] <luzbelito> hi to all: i cant surf web pages with flash media contents because mozilla is "blocked" when try to show all. plugin installed. any way to cancel flash content?
[01:38] <werto> i've a ubuntu breezy32 bit on a amd64 _
[01:38] <Trashcan> werto: I can't understand you very well
[01:39] <Trashcan> do you mean, you don't mean how long your computer's been running?
[01:39] <Trashcan> (open terminal, type 'uptime')
[01:39] <Penguin> if I have compiled something (./configure make make install) Can I delete that directorie after that everything is complete?
[01:39] <werto> Trashcan, sorry for my bad english.. ^_^ so, i've a problem, the time run! when i use linux the cpu clock run
[01:40] <werto> :)
[01:41] <_willcooke_> Any MySQL people in here?  I've asked in #MySQL, no response!
[01:41] <propagandhi> Penguin: yes you can if you dont need to install from there again
[01:41] <propagandhi> I know a bit of Mysql
[01:42] <Trashcan> I know a tiny bit
[01:42] <Penguin> ok and if I have to uninstall it propagandhi ?
[01:42] <_willcooke_> Know about searching against free text index?
[01:42] <propagandhi> yeah
[01:42] <Penguin> or update it with a newer version?
[01:42] <Penguin> it will update without first uninstalling it?
[01:43] <propagandhi> _willcooke_ something like SELECT * FROM table_name WHERE TextField='%keyword%'
[01:43] <mahangu> after i get an applet
[01:43] <mahangu> how do show it in gnome?
[01:44] <werto> anyone know what i should do? _
[01:44] <_willcooke_> propagandhi, I was doing it that way but I'm trying SELECT * FROM table WHERE MATCH (column) AGAINST ('Search Term');
[01:44] <majnoon> just get phpmyadmin
[01:44] <afd_> I've just updated to breezy, but was a rough ride, can anyone paste me a sources.list for breezy on the private?
[01:44] <benkong2> could someone tell me what's the difference between EST && EST5EDT in /usr/share/zoneinfo. I am on East Coast time and since this pc only boots ubuntu I use UTC and ntp for time but it's off by 5 hours
[01:44] <_willcooke_> propagandhi, and it ain't working!
[01:44] <propagandhi> hmm...
[01:45] <Trackilizer> Is there any pluglin one can use to enable webcam support with aMSN.
[01:45] <_willcooke_> propagandhi, I think I'll go back to using LIKE for now!
[01:45] <propagandhi> is there an error or its just not returning any results
[01:45] <afd_> or usa a pastebin
[01:45] <cablefish> I've heard some interesting rumors that on linux you can find out what your hardware is?
[01:45] <nalioth> afd_: they are the same as b4, only instead of 'hoary' it's 'breezy'
[01:45] <_willcooke_> propagandhi, returns an empty set, so I guess I havent got the syntax quite right
[01:45] <propagandhi> yeah that'd be it
[01:45] <bimberi> ubotu tell afd_ about sources
[01:45] <twibbler> Here is a nice question for a sunday... Open Office 2 under breezy does not have the help package .... does anybody know hwere to get it from please ...
[01:46] <propagandhi> LIKE is good depending on the scenario
[01:46] <majnoon> openoffice.org ???
[01:46] <benkong2> ! timezone
[01:46] <ubotu> benkong2: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:46] <HappyFool> cablefish: try maybe 'sudo lshw' or look at System -> administration -> device manager
[01:46] <benkong2> cablefish; also lspci will show info
[01:46] <cablefish> Thank you happy
[01:47] <_willcooke_> propagandhi, the table has about 3000 entries with a 3 line text field, so LIKE is OK, but if it gets much bigger I'll have to think of a better way!  It's not slow at the moment though, so I guess, if it aint broke, dont fix it!
[01:47] <propagandhi> u using PHP?
[01:47] <RockyBurt> since someone mentioned openoffice2 ... it appears that openoffice2 is stuck using the openoffice2 file dialog rather than the gnome-based dialog ... i thought that was a setting i could change someplace but i can't find it, anyone have any idea?
[01:47] <_willcooke_> propagandhi, python
[01:48] <propagandhi> ok, so it should be speedy 3000 entries is nothing, my works database has well over 600,000
[01:48] <_willcooke_> propagandhi, that's good news!  I'll change it back.  Cheers!
[01:48] <propagandhi> no worries, didnt do nothin anyhow!
[01:48] <elc2_> hi guys
[01:48] <elc2_> need help here
[01:48] <_willcooke_> propagandhi, You convinced me to stick with LIKE!
[01:49] <elc2_> hi guys, can anyone help me please
[01:49] <nalioth> elc2_: ask your questions
[01:49] <propagandhi> elc2_ explain the problem
[01:50] <elc2_> how can i install openoffice beta 2.0 on ubuntu, sorry cause i'm new in using ubuntu
[01:50] <propagandhi> elc2_: Hoary?
[01:50] <elc2_> yes
[01:50] <benkong2> elc2_; comes standard in breezy
[01:50] <zertox> how do i enable the framebuffer in ubuntu?  Do i have to recompile the kernel for that?
[01:50] <elc2_> how's that one?
[01:51] <sarlacc54> trashcan the updates are loading as i type this
[01:51] <propagandhi> elc2_: u can download the installer from open office.org then use alien to convert to .deb
[01:51] <Trashcan> :)
[01:51] <propagandhi> elc2_: always worked for me on hoary
[01:51] <sarlacc54> trashcan i appreciate the help
[01:51] <sarlacc54> :)
[01:51] <Trashcan> np
[01:51] <rusty-> Hello
[01:51] <rusty-> I have installed Kpackage and the programs included are impressive. But I can not log in. When I try to it tells me root authentication failed.
[01:51] <sktrdie> hey
[01:51] <rusty-> am using ubuntu 5.04. Synaptic, the default package management program does not have some programs that are in Kpackage which I want to install and I am not experienced enough to install a ".tar.gz download.
[01:52] <benkong2> elc2_; sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2
[01:52] <sktrdie> rusty- try sudo
[01:52] <rusty-> Can someone help me to be able to log into Kpackage ?
[01:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rusty- about root
[01:52] <flam> i just compiled my own kernel, but the splash-image wont work. it says: "intelfb: video mode must be programmed at boot time". is there a easy solution to this problem?
[01:52] <benkong2> elc2_; or use synaptic its in the repos
[01:52] <VoX> flam: depends on your definition of "easy" :)
[01:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell elc2_ about synaptic
[01:53] <nalioth> elc2_: using synaptic would be the easiest
[01:53] <flam> VoX, i want to fix it anyway. do you know how/where to read about it? googled but i didn't find any satisfying page
[01:54] <VoX> flam: check your kernel config, you may(probably) haven't compiled in video-at-boot
[01:54] <benkong2> nalioth; looks like breezy is steadily improving. Got my usplash and a new gnome splash with this last batch of updates :-))
[01:54] <anatole> re
[01:54] <nalioth> benkong2: slowly but surely
[01:54] <anatole> does anybody know a standalone app for displaying the notification area?
[01:54] <VoX> flam: i cant remember where it is in the kernel conf, but it's in there
[01:55] <flam> vox, hm, ok. i marked intel and vesa framebuffers with *.. it shouldn't be modules?
[01:56] <VoX> flam: no that's not for boot time. it's in a seperate area to that.
[01:56] <propagandhi> flam: are you using an initrd too
[01:57] <flam> propagandhi, yes, i compiled the kernel with. make-kpkg --initrd --revision=balbla kernel_image
[01:57] <Trashcan> python has to be the easiest language ever invented
[01:57] <flam> i also tried to use the initrd from 2.6.12-8-386 (breezy standard)
[01:59] <Dalkus> if I have two cd drives, how can I eject the second using 'eject' ?
[01:59] <VoX> dalkus: "man eject"
[01:59] <nalioth> Dalkus: eject /dev/cdrom0 or cdrom1 or whatever it is
[01:59] <VoX> have a read
[01:59] <VoX> or that
[01:59] <VoX> :P
[01:59] <Dalkus> thank you
[01:59] <VoX> and you can use eject -t to close it again
[02:00] <VoX> majnoon: not always
[02:00] <mahangu> how hard is it to create gnome applet?
[02:00] <Dalkus> majnoon, button dosn't seem tow ant to work :)
[02:00] <VoX> majnoon: eject unmounts and then opens the drive
[02:00] <nalioth> majnoon: in linux, the software locks the cdrom
[02:00] <propagandhi> has anyone checked out opera 8.5 especially now that its free?
[02:00] <VoX> majnoon: the kernel wont permit the drive to be opened if it's mounted
[02:01] <Dalkus> that was my issue :)
[02:01] <majnoon> i know you need to unmount it first
[02:01] <VoX> majnoon: just use eject - it does it for you :)
[02:01] <majnoon> eject unmounts it too then ??
[02:01] <rusty-> propagandhi: I've been using opera since it went free as in beer
[02:01] <Dalkus> mount wants to know the filesystem type to mount an audio CD - what should I specify?
[02:02] <rusty-> propagandhi: I've been thinking about using opera instead of firefox. Opera seems alot smoother.
[02:02] <WebLOCH> hello
[02:02] <propagandhi> opera is awesome
[02:02] <VoX> majnoon: it sure does
[02:02] <HappyFool> Dalkus: you can't mount music CD's, as far as i know
[02:02] <HappyFool> Dalkus: what do you want to do?
[02:02] <Dalkus> HappyFool, how can I read one then?
[02:02] <rusty-> propagandhi: indeed
[02:02] <propagandhi> i like it being central for mail, IRC and browsing
[02:02] <Dalkus> just play the music, but my drives don't seem to automount
[02:02] <rusty-> propagandhi: The only bad thing is that it's not FLOSS
[02:02] <VoX> propagandhi: it fails on amd64
[02:03] <HappyFool> Dalkus: use a cd-ripper tool, like sound juicer or cdparanoia
[02:03] <rusty-> And that it badly renders some sites.
[02:03] <rusty-> It might have some problems with javascript.
[02:03] <rusty-> I'm not also sure about java and flash as I don't use them.
[02:03] <Dalkus> HappyFool, but I just want to listen to it - I don't want to rip it?
[02:03] <propagandhi> Vox: damn
[02:03] <HappyFool> Dalkus: oh
[02:03] <VoX> propagandhi: yeah.. have to use firefox.. which im not happy about :(
[02:03] <HappyFool> Dalkus: applications -> sound and video -> cd player
[02:03] <kevor> hmm, i've installed the dutch language package, but when i login with a user using the Dutch language i get the erro: nl_NL.UTF-8 Language thingy not found... is there a solution for htis?
[02:03] <Dalkus> yep
[02:03] <Dalkus> says drive error
[02:03] <WebLOCH> VoX have you tried Galeon or Epiphany ?
[02:03] <propagandhi> I still use firefox, and yes there are some rendering issues
[02:04] <HappyFool> Dalkus: mounting won't fix that
[02:04] <Dalkus> what will?
[02:04] <propagandhi> but overall its a good net suite
[02:04] <VoX> WebLOCH: yeah, dont like anything apart from opera, really
[02:04] <HappyFool> Dalkus: it doesn't give any more details?
[02:04] <Dalkus> nope
[02:04] <Dalkus> i had to manually mount a dvd the other day to play it in xine
[02:05] <HappyFool> dvd's are different
[02:05] <HappyFool> hmm
[02:05] <majnoon> eject unmounts it too then ??
[02:05] <Dalkus> majnoon, yes
[02:05] <Dalkus> tries to
[02:05] <HappyFool> Dalkus: well, it works here
[02:05] <majnoon> that cool
[02:05] <propagandhi> theres some really nic skins for opera too
[02:06] <HappyFool> Dalkus: can you try a different music cd?
[02:06] <Dalkus> HappyFool, all the same :)
[02:06] <HappyFool> Dalkus: hmm. sorry, not sure what the problem is; maybe look in dmesg to see if the kernel reports any errors
[02:07] <Dalkus> thanks anyway :)
[02:07] <majnoon> actually re-installinng mepis here
[02:08] <twibbler> OK been all through the opneoffice.org web site, and synaptic, and still can't find the help package... I guess it is included in the full download from openoffice but is there just a package I can install (i.e. repository)
[02:08] <notaction> Hi. I'm a total newbie to anything Linux, and I don't want to wade through a million pages to get to the solution of the problem that I'm having at this moment...Would somebody please give me a hand with something?
[02:09] <propagandhi> notaction: ask
[02:09] <VoX> notaction: whats the pron
[02:09] <VoX> *prob
[02:09] <VoX> mmm pron
[02:09] <majnoon> we know where Vox surfing ???
[02:10] <VoX> haha nah, was just a typo
[02:10] <VoX> opera appear to have removed the amd64 version
[02:10] <VoX> bastards
[02:10] <propagandhi> Vox: that really sux
[02:11] <WebLOCH> Does wget start multiple threads?
[02:11] <notaction> Heh. OK, I've installed Ubuntu on a virtual machine, since I want to try it before I make any sort of commitment. So, I need to install a sort of driver package called "VMware Tools" so that the graphics and mouse get to be a little more responsive. But after installing it, I got an error message when I tried to configure it, let's see if I can replicate it... One moment please
[02:11] <propagandhi> haha has anyone seen the screenshots of windows vista
[02:11] <WebLOCH> Ive run the preview Prof_Frink
[02:12] <WebLOCH> Ive run the preview propagandhi
[02:12] <DjKritical> propagandhi, nah I havn't yet... I'm a little bit interested now tho
[02:12] <propagandhi> is it any good or just trash again
[02:12] <twibbler> propagandhi: after breezy why bother ...
[02:13] <propagandhi> well, its interesting to see how much its actually going to grow
[02:13] <propagandhi> i wont be using it personally, but still
[02:13] <VoX> i have one windows box
[02:13] <VoX> for the sole purpose of backing-up my o2xda
[02:13] <twibbler> propagandhi: I heard a rumour you need 2gig Ram to make it work well ...
[02:13] <WebLOCH> hey twibbler did you ever get your sound sorted?
[02:13] <VoX> thats all it does..
[02:14] <propagandhi> it wouldnt suprise me
[02:14] <twibbler> WebLOCH: oh yea .........
[02:14] <DjKritical> oh my god... I'm looking at the screen shots now... ms internet explorer is totally ripping on firefoxs tabs thing
[02:14] <afd_> where can I configure samba?
[02:14] <afd_> to browse the local network?
[02:14] <propagandhi> yeah they finally figured out tabs
[02:14] <kent> Where is the screenshots of vista?
[02:14] <WebLOCH> propagandhi, it looks like macosx to me
[02:14] <notaction> OK, here's the error. >>This configuration program is to be executed out of an XFree86 session. Please shut down all instances of XFree86. << How do I go about shutting down XFree86...and how do I get it back when I'm finished?
[02:14] <Tomcat_> DjKritical: I doubt there are many ways in which you can present tabs to the user that would not be ripping off.
[02:14] <WebLOCH> propagandhi, all this aero nonsense
[02:14] <propagandhi> yeah my opinion is its all eye candy
[02:15] <propagandhi> and it looks like a cross between mac and a nicely skinned linux/unix box
[02:15] <propagandhi> like Superkaramba everywhere
[02:15] <WebLOCH> And everyone seems to be up for this rubbish where your filesystem is magically interlinked so your music knows where images are and willautomatically select the best match for an album cover and the write you a blog report on it and post it to the interwebs.
[02:15] <notaction> Heh, I've been raised on Win 98, 2k, and now XP. It's all fischer-price and babyish
[02:15] <VoX> propagandhi: with 400% bloat
[02:15] <DjKritical> also... if you have a look at their file browsing... it's all using the whole "my this, my that" idea.. which is kinda silly...
[02:15] <WebLOCH> I'm quite happy with a computer that I do the thinking for
[02:16] <VoX> and it's still going to be amazingly vulnerable..
[02:16] <propagandhi> oh yeah
[02:16] <kent> propagandhi, where is the screenshots your looking at?
[02:16] <VoX> well no..
[02:16] <DjKritical> http://news.com.com/2300-1016_3-5805994-2.html
[02:16] <VoX> it's still going to be _unsurprisingly_ vulnerable
[02:16] <propagandhi> i'm not looking at any currently myself
[02:16] <propagandhi> but i checked heaps out last night
[02:16] <twibbler> But remember without windozee we wouldn't have had the desktop revolution ..... But maybe somebody would have done something different ...
[02:16] <propagandhi> read a few beta test reviews too
[02:17] <propagandhi> actually, the win 3.1 was a hack of an apple desktop manager
[02:17] <Ofe> twibbler: wasn't mac the first one to publish a graphic interface? Lisa?
[02:17] <propagandhi> yeah
[02:17] <notaction> Pah, user-assigned rating. Anyone can look at an image and instantly decide for themselves whether they like it.
[02:17] <DjKritical> Whens the release of brezy?... it's this month some time isn't it?
[02:17] <WebLOCH> 13th
[02:17] <propagandhi> but thats all it is, rating the eye candy factor
[02:17] <twibbler> Ofe: yep, but windozee did win (unfortunately) as Mac is by far the better machine ...
[02:18] <propagandhi> its not going to make windows a good os
[02:18] <propagandhi> all they've done is give it a new skin and a few extra links and gadgets
[02:18] <mahangu> is writing a gnome applet easy?
[02:18] <WebLOCH> I think my biggest problem with windows is it starts off nice and speedy, and then over a period of weeks. it caches every de-optimisation it can think of, and persists in slowing itself down :(
[02:19] <DjKritical> propagandhi, you hit it right on the head... it's all eye candy.. and it's the same windows.. a lot of people out there are going to pay good money for it too... it will probably go slower... it will probably do exactly the same as xp... but it looks nice?
[02:19] <propagandhi> WebLOCH: totally agree
[02:19] <twibbler> WebLOCH: hence me moving to Breezy ....
[02:19] <VoX> if install a new kernel image thru synaptic, will it automaticly insert the new kernel into gru... nevermind
[02:19] <WebLOCH> Windows XP/2003 is a good operating system family, they just aren't AS good
[02:19] <propagandhi> yeah but i can make my box look just as nice with a little effort and the total price comes to $0
[02:20] <DjKritical> yeah same here
[02:20] <WebLOCH> And to be honest, if Windows XP were made open source suddenly, it would recieve thousands of developers, and probably become a much better OS
[02:20] <Ofe> WebLOCH: same problem here. I used (and still use) winXP on my gamingcomputer for 3 years without re-installing. got kinda slow you might say. :P
[02:20] <WebLOCH> Ofe exactly, windows just "bogs down" for no apparent reason
[02:20] <propagandhi> I just feel windows is for a whole different user market
[02:20] <notaction> Windows bogs down because of the stupid registry
[02:21] <propagandhi> linux/unix and mac are far superior in millions of other ways, windows is user and dummy friendly
[02:21] <WebLOCH> notaction, wwell theres a collection of reasons, but it seems to increment its demise with every passing day, but i dont change system settings every day, so its not just the reg
[02:21] <holycow> the registry isn't a bad idea, theirs is too complex and is in a binary format so its easily corruptible
[02:21] <Ofe> one thing I wonder about that was that when I finally re-installed it the "windows"-folder was just 600megs. the old one was 4gt. for no apparent reason, if we're not including updates and useless logs.
[02:22] <WebLOCH> Ofe, I don't know I made custom discs
[02:22] <holycow> i'm paraphrasing just what i read tho, lol, i don't have a clue, its a tought question if you scan the different attempts at centralized settings approaches
[02:23] <Garyu> anyone know good podcast-software?
[02:23] <propagandhi> the amazing thing about linux is it's come out of a community of good will and faith in each other, with a very small budget, and windows has spent billions making their OS
[02:23] <Garyu> rss-like aggregator or the like?
[02:23] <notaction> hm, well.. Linux looks nice, but it's a bit of a maze, I find. I have no idea how to get around here..... About that error message I got, can someone offer any advice?
[02:23] <holycow> propagandhi, i would say that mac is more dummy friendly
[02:24] <VoX> agreed
[02:24] <propagandhi> holycow: i agree
[02:24] <holycow> working with windows users for years and years has taught me one thing:
[02:24] <holycow> they are the cheapest bastards you will ever meet
[02:24] <VoX> heh
[02:24] <propagandhi> ha ha ha
[02:24] <holycow> its that cheapness that makes them buy stuff that is poorly designed and engineered
[02:24] <Ofe> btw, does anyone know did they really give up the "spagetti code" in microsoft and started to code Vista in a whole new way?
[02:24] <propagandhi> notaction: most people find it very hard to navigate etc when they start, its all the Windows embedded in everyones brains
[02:25] <holycow> they think they are saving 40 bucks by not paying it up front, but they pay for it in thousands in the back end in servicing and repair costs
[02:25] <VoX> Ofe: doubt it
[02:25] <HappyFool> notaction: what are you trying to do? configure X?
[02:25] <twibbler> After speaking to a customer who wanted a document server... quote 4000 for Win server and business software etc etc etc , offered linux samba alternative quater of price ...... sums up windows I think ...
[02:25] <VoX> heh i came across a windows 3.1 error in win2k3 a few days back
[02:25] <holycow> propagandhi, yeah, that happens even to educated people and pros
[02:25] <Fraeon> I've never actually contacted Microsoft for my problems...
[02:25] <Fraeon> And I've done loads of stuff.
[02:26] <holycow> takes ps users, you will never find a pro ps user that can learn gimp ... it never happens, ps is burned in peoples minds as THE way raster apps should work
[02:26] <holycow> *shrug*
[02:26] <notaction> HappyFool, No. Trying to configure VMware Tools (I'm running Ubuntu on a virtual machine
[02:26] <propagandhi> I still administer a whole network of windows stations, and i can see some merit in windows features here and there, but i can achieve so much more in such a smaller time frame under linux
[02:26] <elc2_> hi guys
[02:26] <Fraeon> PS is the superior program, though.(then again, it costs, so it should be)
[02:26] <Ofe> holycow: there's gimpshop, isn't there?
[02:26] <LokeDK> How do I backup my mails in thunderbird? and import them in evolution
[02:26] <twibbler> ls
[02:26] <DjKritical> twibbler, I recently read to reports on the costs of operating systems... as a web server.. linux wins (for obvious reasons)... but as a desktop machine... windows came out on top... however.. I don't think they had looked into Ubuntu as a desktop machine =)
[02:26] <holycow> but overall its the windows users cheapness that really has created the windows situation, and windows by extension
[02:27] <Fraeon> But for the simple web graphics I do, it's Gimp and Inkscape that are more than enough
[02:27] <propagandhi> how could windows come out on top
[02:27] <VoX> people stick with the Devil They Know\
[02:27] <propagandhi> as cheapest
[02:27] <holycow> Ofe, the problem with gimpshop, or win shortcuts for gimp is that gimp and ps will NEVER map 1:1 in terms of features
[02:27] <VoX> always have, always will
[02:27] <DjKritical> I'm starting up a business which deals specifically with converting businesses to open-source software
[02:27] <holycow> Ofe, not only that, the features cannot work identical in some cases because of patents
[02:27] <DjKritical> propagandhi, support and the wages to pay a linux engineer compared to a windows engineer
[02:28] <HappyFool> notaction: hmm. well, you can try killing X 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[02:28] <twibbler> DjKritical: Ive heard that too.... but it depends on the report... We have just switched our desktops to ubuntu and have saved hundreds ... by not having to buy new machines etc ..
[02:28] <holycow> Ofe, therefore what happens with gimpshop is that its 80% similar and you end up being frustrated with the last 20%
[02:28] <HappyFool> notaction: to restart, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[02:28] <propagandhi> well, if you have an in-house linux specialist, you;d be right
[02:28] <notaction> HappyFool, sprry, what is "sudo"?
[02:28] <holycow> Ofe, the proper method is to do what all people do, sit down and learn the app and how it works, its shortcuts, its workflows, its pros/cons and use the tool for the job.
[02:28] <DjKritical> twibbler, I think most linux distros would cost a lot to maintain especially if your users are "windowfied"... however Ubuntu is the exception... it's so user-friendly!
[02:29] <HappyFool> notaction: runs commands as root (super-user)
[02:29] <VoX> notaction: it's a command that lets "normal" users execute administrator(root) commands
[02:29] <holycow> Ofe, ps users cannot do that, i've had infinite discussions with them and they insist that gimp MUST work like ps
[02:29] <HappyFool> !tell notaction about sudo
[02:29] <Fraeon> Well, I don't know...
[02:29] <propagandhi> any linux distro just about can be that user firendly. If i was to deploy it at my work, I'd skin it like windows, and get all the apps happening, they'd barely notice the difference
[02:30] <holycow> propagandhi, i wouldn't
[02:30] <twibbler> DjKritical: I was looking for 18months for a replacement to Windows, now there are a few linux distros ... and they are coming on in leaps and bounds .... but I still think 6 months before Linux is fully there ..... (And windows engineer costs are high)...
[02:30] <werto> hei
[02:30] <notaction> Cool beans, HappyFool
[02:30] <holycow> propagandhi, you would get a situation like xandros, its 80% there but its the 20% that frustrates them
[02:30] <Ofe> holycow: I'm not good with ps and I've never tried gimp so far for any other purpose that viewing pictures. I have the problem you're just talking about; I can't use linux because I've been using windows for 4 years. "where's the .exe?"
[02:30] <Fraeon> propagandhi, Linspire does that :>
[02:30] <holycow> because linux will never be 1:1 like windows
[02:30] <Fraeon> And Xandros, I think
[02:30] <propagandhi> it depends on what the users doing though
[02:30] <holycow> propagandhi, its much more productive to tell them its different and teach them
[02:31] <DjKritical> twibbler, Windows XP Replacement = Ubuntu.... Windows 2003 Server Replacement = Debian or Ubuntu
[02:31] <holycow> propagandhi, i have a debian workstation 'sarge' pilot, it took 5 minutes to explain open office and internet use, and took them two weeks to get comfortable
[02:31] <holycow> just a single example, not really representative tho
[02:31] <twibbler> DjKritical: Never used a windows server and never would ... always used Unix and lately Fedora ... but Ubuntu server is very good ...
[02:31] <holycow> Ofe, EXACTLY.   you got it exctly right
[02:31] <DjKritical> You just need to start small... Email, Internet and Office... then move from there
[02:32] <notaction> Look it's the tok'ra <ubuntu> coming to kill off the goa'uld
[02:32] <Mazrim> hello all
[02:32] <propagandhi> holycow: thats prett well what i mean though, i could kit our users out very quickly with a familiar-ish interface and it would only serve to reduce the transition time
[02:32] <kemik> linux is still inferior to windows in soo many aspects
[02:32] <propagandhi> the default interface u get in ubuntu isnt great
[02:32] <kemik> hardware support anyone.. ?
[02:32] <holycow> Ofe, as a side note, stick around.  the knowledge will be absorbed through osmosis tho.  :)
[02:32] <DjKritical> twibbler, I think just about any distro would be better than a windows server =)
[02:32] <holycow> propagandhi, ah.  *nod*
[02:32] <Mazrim> yeah
[02:33] <Mazrim> well, windows only has the hardware support becuase it has so much $$
[02:33] <Fraeon> I like the default Gnome interface
[02:33] <deFrysk> kemik, for hardware support contact the hardware makers
[02:33] <Ofe> holycow: I'll be here for a couple of weeks and I'll be surfing the newbieforums @ www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:33] <notaction> HappyFool, wiki.ubuntu.com doesn't appear to be running at the moment.
[02:33] <DjKritical> propagandhi, considering I've always been crap at installing X... I was very happy with the default interface for ubuntu =)
[02:33] <werto> nobody know what i should do? my cpu clock runs and mp3 playng runs too! _
[02:33] <VoX> \o/ i got opera working
[02:33] <kemik> Mazrim:  no, because windows has 95% of the desktop market
[02:33] <werto> i'm in trouble :D
[02:33] <HappyFool> notaction: erk, really?
[02:33] <holycow> propagandhi, i like ubuntu for those sorts of reasons i guess.  the gnome philosophy is great for newbs, i can sit anyone down and say 'find internet' and they do.  or say 'find writer and write a document' and they do
[02:33] <propagandhi> hardware support in linux is getting so much better at a rate of knots
[02:33] <twibbler> DjKritical: definetly .......      and Now Ubuntu is a good replacement for Windows .... we just need the distros to bring the common functionality together and the software suppliers will start providing more for linux ...
[02:33] <notaction> Wait... it says "connected" now
[02:33] <Mazrim> I used to be a KDE fan, but now I like the simplicity of cnome
[02:33] <kemik> yes. hardware support is getting better
[02:33] <Guggi> hello all, im trying to switch from suse to ubuntu
[02:33] <Fraeon> But I don't care whether something's open source or not, so long as it WORKS. That's why I prefer Opera to Firefox
[02:33] <kemik> but it's still miles away from the windows drivers
[02:34] <propagandhi> holycow: yeah i absolutely love ubuntu dont get me wrong, its a masterpiece
[02:34] <elc2> hi guys
[02:34] <Fraeon> And Windows isn't perfect either: bluetooth is a bitch to get working on XP
[02:34] <kemik> Guggi:  nice.. goodluck
[02:34] <Trash[sleep] > night
[02:34] <propagandhi> but i do personally prefer KDE as desktop
[02:34] <deFrysk> kemik, and why would that be ?
[02:34] <holycow> Ofe, my personal opinion (which i really useless) would be to just give it time. don't rush it.  if you are ever frustrated, walk away for a few days and let all the new knowledge distill it self
[02:34] <sarlacc54> Trash[sleep] : take care!
[02:34] <Mazrim> kemik: actually, slightly less, as 6% is mac, and a small percent is linux
[02:34] <kemik> deFrysk:  because linux has too few users so hardwaremanufacturers dont see a good reason to develop linuxdrivers
[02:34] <notaction> Are there any resources on the command prompt?
[02:35] <Mazrim> firefox works
[02:35] <Guggi> installation of ubuuntu fails while loading e2fsprofs-udeb complaing about bad install-media, but the cd installs fine on another pc
[02:35] <Secreth`X> hiya all
[02:35] <Ofe> holycow: I'm being forced to learn how to use ubuntu. The computer I have windows in is 350km away from me, in my own apartment. :)
[02:35] <kemik> Guggi:  maybe the cd-reader is bad
[02:35] <deFrysk> kemik, so contact them and complain there
[02:35] <werto> so.. nobody can't help me? ___
[02:35] <holycow> Ofe, 'forced'?  do tell! :)
[02:35] <kemik> deFrysk:  im just balancing the discussion
[02:35] <twibbler> kemik: But they are providing linux drivers... take Brother ... every printer has there own driver and other companies are doing the same ...
[02:35] <Guggi> keramik: i checked against md5
[02:35] <holycow> Ofe, and how do you like it? are you completely new to it?
[02:35] <Mazrim> werto: whats your problem?
[02:35] <Secreth`X> I`ve got (probably a dumb) question..
[02:35] <kemik> all ppl in here are a bit "linux is the best...!!! wohoooo" and its not so simple
[02:35] <propagandhi> Kyocera release heaps of linux drivers too
[02:35] <dv_> hi
[02:36] <Mazrim> hi
[02:36] <dv_> trying to get the nw802 driver to work
[02:36] <dv_> but it doesnt compile :|
[02:36] <VoX> kemik: that's a bit generic
[02:36] <holycow> twibbler, brother releases linux drivers?
[02:36] <werto> Mazrim, mi cpu clock runs _ the time runs so much, and when i try to play mp3 it runs too! _ they're speed up
[02:36] <holycow> *blink* this i gotta see
[02:36] <werto> (sorry for my bad english :))
[02:36] <propagandhi> and samsung
[02:36] <holycow> for linux?
[02:36] <deFrysk> kemik, linux is better then lms , ist safer on line and easyer to install and its more stable
[02:36] <dv_> because the "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build" dir is mising
[02:36] <dv_> +s
[02:36] <twibbler> holycow: yep for virtually every model I have two brother network printers working great ...
[02:36] <dv_> anyone has an idea?
[02:36] <DjKritical> The only reason why I still NEED windows is for games... however! This is only because I'm a noob and can't get cedega working for the life of me... but as soon as breezy badger comes out I'm going to try again... apparently directx games actually run faster using cedega!?
[02:36] <Mazrim> well, I got ndiswrapper to work, which is good, cuz I don;t need to pay for linuxloader
[02:37] <holycow> twibbler, working great and manufacturer providing drivers are two different things
[02:37] <Secreth`X> Is it possible to have Windows installed on e.g C:\ and Ubuntu on e.g F:\ at the same time?
[02:37] <Fraeon> DjKritical, cedega is far from the optimal solution to play games
[02:37] <ArjenS> dv_, have you installed build-essentials?
[02:37] <holycow> if you check on linuxprinting.org, brother isn't exaclty known for linux support if you know what i mean
[02:37] <holycow> hp is however
[02:37] <Mazrim> werto: I'm sorry I can't help you, I know very little about Ubuntu
[02:37] <Anak1n> Secret'X: yes
[02:37] <twibbler> holycow: using provided drivers ...
[02:37] <VoX> Secreth`X: yes
[02:37] <kemik> Secreth`X:  yes, but it wouldnt be called C: and F: in linux
[02:37] <Fraeon> You'll experience loads of extra bugs in your games AND they'll be slower.
[02:37] <Secreth`X> ok
[02:37] <werto> Mazrim, oh, thanks
[02:37] <werto> :)
[02:37] <holycow> twibbler, those are written by third parties
[02:37] <DjKritical> Fraeon, other than Emulation? or Dual boot? what other option is there?!
[02:37] <Ofe> holycow: I got this old computer to be an internetcomputer for my parents because I got the faster one with me when I moved out. Now I'm back at the parents house for a couple of weeks and the only computer here has Ubuntu. This couldn't even run Win XP if I wanted to. :) I like the lightness of ubuntu and the ease of installation. But I'm still having trouble with internet-connection and had lots of problems with modem-compability and use.
[02:38] <holycow> if you look on their website there are no linux drivers that i can see
[02:38] <dv_> ArjenS, apt-get says "not found"
[02:38] <Secreth`X> but can I still choose what OS I could use?
[02:38] <twibbler> holycow: but they came from the brother site ... and are supported by brother .....
[02:38] <holycow> infact, a lot of their printers are gdi printers
[02:38] <Fraeon> DjKritical, I'm not saying there's another option. I'm just saying that cedega isn't really that good an option.
[02:38] <holycow> which are windows only piece of crap printers
[02:38] <ArjenS> dv_, that might be a typo on my side, let me check for the name
[02:38] <kemik> Ofe:  ubuntu w/ gnome is no 'lighter' than windows xp
[02:38] <Fraeon> At least if you want to take your time PLAYING the games instead of trying to set them up
[02:38] <VoX> Ofe: i've got xp running on a p2/350 with 128mb ram and 4gig of hd
[02:38] <Nicks68> If I install 5.10 beta, do i have to reinstall again then the real one comes?
[02:38] <HappyFool> Secreth`X: you can install both windows and ubuntu (though C:/F: are not really ubuntu concepts)
[02:38] <DjKritical> Fraeon, damn... well.. even if I can just get a free 3d games working.. then I can get rid of the dual boot atleast
[02:38] <Ofe> holycow: and yes, I'm completely new to linux. Ubuntu's the first linux-distro I've never used.
[02:38] <nalioth> Nicks68: no. apt-get will upgrade you easily
[02:39] <ArjenS> dv_, it's build-essential
[02:39] <Mazrim> nicks68: probably not, just update
[02:39] <Secreth`X> HappyFool, ok but can I still choose wich OS i use?
[02:39] <VoX> Nicks68: i've been using 5.10 for 2 months now, running sweet
[02:39] <DjKritical> then the only thing left that ticks me off is the people who are using winrar instead of winzip... for the life of me I can't unrar anything in ubuntu
[02:39] <Anak1n> Secret'X: yes
[02:39] <mahangu> can i order breezy via shipit yet?>
[02:39] <kemik> Secreth`X:  install windows first, then install ubuntu and you'll have Grub as bootloader
[02:39] <VoX> breezy + amd64 = teh winnar
[02:39] <Mazrim> lol
[02:39] <holycow> Ofe, neato, having your parents on ubuntu is perfect.  you wont be cleaning spyware in two months from now
[02:39] <Mazrim> nice vox
[02:39] <Ofe> kemik: well, atleast this is lighter than Mandrake on defaultsettings. It was installed at this computer (500mhz celeron with 128sdr-ram) and it kept swapping.
[02:39] <VoX> it's true :)
[02:39] <HappyFool> Secreth`X: yip. do as kemik suggests
[02:39] <Secreth`X> kemik, Anak1n, thanks
[02:40] <holycow> Ofe, just make sure they don't have sudo access, when you get a chance to look into that sort of admin stuff :)
[02:40] <Mazrim> 200/1010 1h25mins to go
[02:40] <kemik> Ofe:  well, lighter than mandrake could be, but you compared it with windows xp :)
[02:40] <Secreth`X> HappyFool, thanks
[02:40] <propagandhi> is anyone in here using kde
[02:40] <dv_> ArjenS, didnt do anything
[02:40] <VoX> Mazrim: compiled a 2.6.12 kernel, including modules, in under 15minutes.
[02:40] <dv_> there is still no build dir
[02:40] <Nicks68> Can i upgrade from debian 3.1 to ubuntu with apt-get (and a new sourse.list)?
[02:40] <kemik> Ofe:  anyways, if you want even faster loading, less swapping etc i'd recommend you to use XFCE or icewm as windowmanagers instead of gnome
[02:40] <VoX> Nicks68: errr probably not
[02:40] <nalioth> propagandhi: ask in #kubuntu
[02:40] <Mazrim> vox: yeah, but I have to dl the whole new 5.10
[02:41] <dv_> oh, wait.
[02:41] <twibbler> anyway all... have a good day I have to go do some work ...
[02:41] <propagandhi> no question to ask just wondering was all
[02:41] <VoX> Mazrim: i'm just giving an example of my extreme leetness in processing power
[02:41] <dv_> it installed the build dir in the 2.6.10-5-386 dir, and not in the k7 one
[02:41] <ArjenS> dv_, try linux-headers-k7
[02:41] <Ofe> kemik: I've got to admit that I didn't even try to install XP to this. :) I just though that XP = ~mandrake when it comes to "heavyness".
[02:41] <Mazrim> propagandhi: I use it w/ Gentoo
[02:42] <propagandhi> ahh Gentoo, i liked gentoo, but its too high maintenance
[02:42] <VoX> gentoo is the linux for ricers
[02:42] <kemik> Ofe:  ubuntu w/ gnome = xp in 'heaviness'
[02:42] <Mazrim> vox: oh, right, lol, yeah, well, gentoo kernel compile took about 10 w/ gentoo, but gentoo is less bloated than ubuntnu
[02:42] <kemik> Ofe:  but as i said, if you wanna quicken up stuff, use icewm or xfce
[02:42] <VoX> "ZOMG I E-MERGED THIS SOURCE, AND NOW IT'S 0.00197453% FASTER!!!!!!!"
[02:42] <propagandhi> Mazrim: thats the thing that gets to u
[02:42] <Nicks68> Thanks Vox, naliothm and Mazrim
[02:42] <Mazrim> fluxbox
[02:42] <propagandhi> all the compile time
[02:42] <Ofe> kemik: I got 2 x 64mb of sdr more to this so there's no more swapping now. Are XFCE and icewm as easy (and this is important, this computer is going to be with my parents "alone" for half an year") and windows-like?
[02:43] <deFrysk> lol VoX
[02:43] <propagandhi> like compiling kde - 6 to 12 hours
[02:43] <Secreth`X> lol @ VoX
[02:43] <VoX> it's true
[02:43] <dv_> oh fuck
[02:43] <Mazrim> propagandhi: yeah, and having the recompile the kernel every 5 minutes
[02:43] <VoX> have a look at some gentoo forums
[02:43] <dv_> now it rains compiler errors... bah
[02:43] <propagandhi> and emerge -Uvd worl
[02:43] <kemik> Ofe:  i think they're easy.. but you could have trouble connecting usb devices perhaps...
[02:43] <propagandhi> world
[02:43] <dv_> so no webcam in ubuntu. bad.
[02:43] <holycow> Ofe, not even close.  stick to gnome if you can.  how much ram does their system have?
[02:43] <deFrysk> gentoo is slower during compiling ..... so whats the point of compiling ?
[02:44] <kemik> Ofe:  just apt-get them and try them out ;) i'd recommend xfce firsthand.. think it's more noob-friendly for you parents =)
[02:44] <Mazrim> yeah I hate how it won't let you install some packages w/o bending over backwards
[02:44] <holycow> Ofe, ram and hard drive speed really make the most difference.  also vid card would be third in line for your parents workload
[02:44] <holycow> cpu speed you can skimp on
[02:44] <propagandhi> compiling can have its benefits, but a good disto has well-optimised packages for various architectures too
[02:44] <VoX> deFrysk: because /after/ it's compiled, it's 0.0000$something_unnoticeable% faster
[02:44] <elc2> hey guys, can any one help me how to install openoffice2.0 in ubuntu?
[02:44] <kemik> videocard ? unless they play 3d games a new videocard won't do jack
[02:44] <deFrysk> VoX, how l33t that is :D
[02:45] <Ofe> kemik: uh oh. this has to have digital camera support (usb). I haven't even tried to get that working yet.
[02:45] <ArjenS> elc2, in hoary?
[02:45] <VoX> elc2: run 'synaptic', search for "openoffice" and install it
[02:45] <Mazrim> deFrysk: well, its faster if you choose every mod to compile but, it becomes a pain adding mods and recompileing
[02:45] <Ofe> holycow: 128mb + 2x64mb = 256mb sdr. :) 500mhz celeron.
[02:45] <elc2> yes hoary hedge hog
[02:45] <kemik> Ofe:  that's no-pain in gnome at least.. i had to struggle abit with it in xfce, but i had done the serverinstall for that system so maybe you wont hae to tweak around at all
[02:46] <VoX> deFrysk: God knows i cant spare the 0.00000000000016295 of a second that the extra hour of compile time cost me.
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[02:46] <holycow> Ofe, a wee bit on slowish side, but should be okay
[02:46] <deFrysk> Mazrim, you have to catch up 17 hrs of compiletime before we catch up with the 0001 speedadvantage , howmany years would that take ?
[02:46] <ArjenS> elc2, read this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62316
[02:46] <holycow> Ofe, at least you have enough ram for most things so thats okay
[02:47] <Ofe> holycow: the uses of this computer are 1)need to get on webbank to pay bills. 2) need to get to surf a bit. 3)need to get digital pictures from camera to computer (haven't tried this one yet).
[02:47] <Mazrim> deFrysk: its faster than that
[02:47] <holycow> should be no prob at all
[02:47] <VoX> amd64 provides a good arguement against bothering with gentoo. everything happens within 1-3 seconds of entering the command. :D
[02:47] <deFrysk> Mazrim, stage 1 install ?
[02:48] <holycow> you said, you had problems with the modem, they are on dialup?
[02:48] <Ofe> holycow: yup, dialup. downloadspeed is now 0.8kbps max as it should be 5.6kbps.
[02:48] <VoX> "bunzip2 linux-kernel-2.6.12.9-amd64-k8"  <counts 3, 2, 1> done.
[02:48] <propagandhi> in all seriousness though, get through a gentoo install and run and administer the system for a few months and you will have learnt heaps
[02:49] <deFrysk> propagandhi, very true
[02:49] <VoX> propagandhi: i'd rather have some form of social life/sanity
[02:49] <VoX> :)
[02:49] <propagandhi> ha ha
[02:49] <Mazrim> deFrysk: stage 2
[02:49] <deFrysk> installing*
[02:49] <Mazrim> yeah
[02:49] <Mazrim> you do
[02:49] <propagandhi> but i wont use it as my OS anymore
[02:49] <holycow> Ofe, there is a fix for that, i cant remember where i read it but if you use the default utilities to setup the modem thats what you get
[02:50] <propagandhi> too tempting to sit there and tweak and fiddle
[02:50] <deFrysk> nope , me neither
[02:50] <holycow> Ofe, i think you may either need to use a different config utility or rebuild the driver ... i cannot remember
[02:50] <deFrysk> propagandhi, exactly i broke it too many times tweaking and fiddling
[02:50] <holycow> Ofe, but google it, there is a fix, it is obscure tho
[02:50] <Seveas> gentoo makes it so easy to break itself
[02:50] <Paradoxx> hmm
[02:50] <Seveas> hell, it will even randomly break without anybody doing anything
[02:51] <Mazrim> lol
[02:51] <Ofe> holycow:  by the way, I have a buddy on my computer right now thru ssh. He's trying to fix that problem. He's a linux-user, more experienced than me.
[02:51] <Mazrim> but the cow logo IS cute
[02:51] <Paradoxx> any1else experienceing problems connecting to msn with gaim?
[02:51] <deFrysk> a gentoo distro with binaries only would be intresting tho
[02:51] <Mazrim> yes
[02:51] <holycow> Ofe, cool
[02:51] <Paradoxx> bah, nevermind...
[02:51] <Mazrim> paradoxx yes
[02:51] <Mazrim> paradoxx: keeps disconnecting
[02:51] <kikinovak> Hi. I'm a slack veteran new to Ubuntu. First install. No way to be root. Googled for it, but the suggested method 'sudo su -' and then 'passwd' doesn't seem to work. (Did an 'expert' mode install because I didn't want Grub to wipe my existing bootloader:oD). Anyway, I get told that my main user is not in the sudoers group. What now? Reboot in single user mode and add the user to... (what?) group?
[02:51] <Paradoxx> it JUST worked, like that, i dunno y
[02:51] <deFrysk> Paradoxx, I heard others having probs today with msn
[02:52] <WebLOCH> Yeah im having trouble
[02:52] <Paradoxx> kk
[02:52] <VoX> kikinovak: nah easier way
[02:52] <mztriz> hey does anyone know how to get my soundcard wokring? It's an snd cs4536. I got it to work yesterday by typing in cat /ect/ somthing?? I forgot and I didn't realize I had to do it everyday. I should have written it down. But anyway can someone help?
[02:52] <kikinovak> VoX I'm all ears:oD
[02:52] <deFrysk> !tell kikinovak about sudo
[02:52] <VoX> kikinovak: can you get into X ?
[02:52] <kikinovak> Actually I'm on my slack partition... I needed root rights to setup ppp, since I'm on dialup here.
[02:53] <kikinovak> VoX but yeah I can get into X
[02:53] <VoX> kikinovak: in x, go to applications -> system tools -> root terminal
[02:53] <kikinovak> Vox I have kubuntu... is it the same there?
[02:53] <mztriz> Can someone help me with my sound card? It's an snd cs4536
[02:53] <WebLOCH> Jesu!
[02:54] <WebLOCH> I can't believe it
[02:54] <Ofe> holycow: with what phrase should I search for my speedproblem at google? :) I'm not that good at english, sry. :\
[02:54] <holycow> no worries
[02:54] <holycow> *hmmm*
[02:54] <holycow> ubuntu linux slow modem speed
[02:54] <holycow> :) lol
[02:55] <holycow> start with that, sorry, don't have anything better for ya
[02:55] <Ofe> btw: there's a couple more newbies with this problem at ubuntuforums.org. "really slow dowloadspeed with dialup" or somethig was the topic.
[02:56] <Mazrim> very soon, I will have breezy
[02:57] <Mazrim> muhahahaha
[02:57] <Mazrim> then I will take over
[02:57] <Mazrim> my comuter
[02:57] <Ofe> holycow: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=381731#post381731
[02:58] <Stricklin> Can you change the permissions of a folder and have it change the permissions of the underlying files as well, or do you have to go through and change those individually?
[02:58] <nerdy2> you have to change those individually
[02:58] <nalioth> Stricklin: use the recursive flag
[02:59] <xTina> Stricklin: chmod -R is your friend
[02:59] <WebLOCH> haha
[02:59] <Stricklin> Okay, walk me through it?
[03:00] <spanglesontoast> how can i be sure i'm using the correct repos
[03:00] <nerdy2> chmod -R might be tricky to get right
[03:00] <Stricklin> I'm extremely new to Linux
[03:00] <holycow> lol
[03:00] <holycow> i love to hear the "I'm extremely new to Linux"
[03:00] <holycow> i just think thats awesome
[03:00] <holycow> welcome Stricklin :)
[03:00] <WebLOCH> Stricklin,  Handy tip... use the "man" command, to check out the manual for a command, like this... "man chmod"
[03:01] <christian-> I'm extremely new to linux
[03:01] <Stricklin> WebLOCH, here?
[03:01] <holycow> Stricklin, thats in #debian
[03:01] <holycow> >_>
[03:01] <holycow> lol
[03:01] <VoX> haha
[03:01] <VoX> holycow: so true
[03:01] <holycow> indeed :)
[03:01] <Secreth`X> bah
[03:01] <holycow> they are rather 'picky'
[03:02] <Stricklin> man chmod
[03:02] <Secreth`X> I`ve got a meeting
[03:02] <Secreth`X> cya
[03:02] <VoX> Stricklin: nono, do it in your terminal window
[03:02] <holycow> the opes here have actually been very fair, and moderating is reasonable, dudes here answer all sorts of questions and make sure the language is cordial
[03:02] <Stricklin> oh, I thought you might be talking about a bot
[03:02] <holycow> its neat to see
[03:02] <Seveas> !bot
[03:02] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to seveas? I think not. Bot, plot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[03:03] <drazQ> hmm, will all my drives show as /dev/hdax (where x is a number) ... cause I can't seem to mount a hd which I just formatted to Ext3 :
[03:03] <drazQ> :/
[03:03] <drazQ> err.. partitioned
[03:03] <VoX> Stricklin: nono :) man stands for Manual. 95% of programs on a linux system have a 'man entry' which means you type "man <program name> and it'll give you the manual for it
[03:04] <holycow> Stricklin, there is a command called 'mount'
[03:04] <holycow> i dare you to ask someone publicly to check the linux 'manual' for 'mount'
[03:04] <nalioth> Stricklin: you can also use "info" in place of "man'
[03:04] <holycow> giggles all around
[03:05] <maku> hi all
[03:05] <maku> I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 PR
[03:05] <patrick__> howdy maku
[03:05] <maku> patrick__, hiya
[03:06] <nalioth> maku: congratulations!
[03:06] <maku> but guys, /usr/include is missing all the headers
[03:06] <patrick__> and ?? any noticable difference's compared too Hoary ?
[03:06] <wacko_jacko> hello everyone...
[03:06] <drazQ> hi wacko_jacko ! :D
[03:06] <maku> patrick__, gnome 2.12 :))
[03:07] <wacko_jacko> I have a problem with my kernel, will anyone try to help?
[03:07] <Seveas> maku, duh, why would an ordinary user need headers?
[03:07] <maku> i have Gigabit Yukon eth card but default installation isnt detecting it
[03:07] <Seveas> Install the relevant packages if you need them
[03:07] <drazQ> how do I get more info about e.g. /dev/hda1 (like drive size, etc.)
[03:07] <wacko_jacko> seveas: hi, remember me? the mkinitrd didn't work
[03:07] <patrick__> A yeah, sounds good, but what i understand is that's mostly eyecandy what's added !!
[03:07] <maku> Seveas, the problem is how do i connect to internet as my card is not detected
[03:07] <Toma-> anyone tried e17 yet?
[03:07] <Seveas> maku, get a decent card ;)
[03:07] <Toma-> well, 16.999
[03:08] <Seveas> Toma-, yeah, still as bad as usual (so if you liked it before, you might like it still) :)
[03:08] <maku> Seveas, the kernel has the option for it, but how do i recompile the kernel when all the headers are missing
[03:08] <maku> :(
[03:08] <Toma-> i see.
[03:08] <theine> maku, which card is it?
[03:08] <Seveas> maku, what's the driver you need?
[03:08] <maku> Gigabit Yukon card
[03:08] <Toma-> last i tried it, it crashes on me and went crazy
[03:08] <maku> i have a toshiba laptop
[03:09] <Seveas> meh, Yukon..
[03:09] <elc2_> hi can anyone tell me the easiest way to install open office in ubuntu ?
[03:09] <Seveas> which option exactly do you need for it?
[03:09] <Seveas> elc2_, it's installed by default...
[03:09] <maku> & does the preview release cd contains the kernel sources?
[03:09] <Seveas> maku, no, lack of space
[03:09] <wacko_jacko> elc2_: do you know how to use apt-get?
[03:09] <elc2_> the newest bersion?
[03:09] <Seveas> !info openoffice.org2 breezy
[03:09] <ubotu> openoffice.org2: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 73 kB, Installed size: 192 kB
[03:10] <Seveas> that version
[03:10] <elc2_> i think so yes
[03:10] <maku> Seveas, how do i get the source for the kernel in PR release?
[03:10] <elc2_> how can i install it
[03:10] <Seveas> maku, via the internet ;)
[03:10] <elc2_> wacko_jackO_:
[03:10] <Seveas> elc2_, it's installed by default on breezy...
[03:10] <maku> Seveas, okie
[03:10] <Seveas> maku, which kernel option exactly do you need for it?
[03:10] <elc2_> i don't know
[03:10] <maku> Seveas, but will it work with gcc4
[03:11] <Seveas> maku, no, the kernel still needs gcc3.4
[03:11] <theine> maku, you might want to install a daily build as the official kernel supports the gigabit yukon out of the box since 9/27/05
[03:11] <Seveas> but that one is on the cd
[03:11] <elc2_> i want to install the newest version of open office in ubuntu,  can anyone help me
[03:11] <maku> Seveas, daily build of what? the kernel from ubuntu ?
[03:11] <mztriz> Can someone help me with my sound card? It's an snd cs4536
[03:11] <Seveas> theine, official kernel as in Ubuntu official or kernel.org official?
[03:11] <anthrax[net] > can anybody help me to configure my ubuntu with sound?
[03:11] <anthrax[net] > i've got an soundcard
[03:11] <theine> Seveas, ubuntu official
[03:11] <Seveas> theine, nice
[03:12] <theine> Seveas, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47615
[03:12] <maku> elc2, what system u have? i mean which ubuntu
[03:12] <Seveas> maku, you should get more recent linux-image-2.6.12-9 packages via packages.ubuntu.com
[03:12] <Seveas> no need for recompiling
[03:12] <maku> ok
[03:12] <theine> maku, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/
[03:12] <maku> Seveas, thanks
[03:12] <tombs> hi ppl
[03:12] <Seveas> theine, thanks for the info, it has been asked a lot lately :)
[03:12] <theine> Seveas, you're very welcome
[03:13] <elc2_> ubuntu linux 5.04: The hoary hedgehog
[03:13] <wacko_jacko> elc2_: why do you want the latest version? It might not be worth the trouble. I mean, "latest" is relative.
[03:13] <wacko_jacko> I updated my kernel (2.6.10-5-386) to security update 2.6.10-34.6 and now it won't boot with error "Kernel Panic- not syncing:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0)" (I'm using hoary with standard sources, not even universe or multiverse). Help. :(
[03:13] <elc2_> i need it for the data base
[03:13] <wacko_jacko> elc2_: which version do you need?
[03:13] <elc2_> 2.0
[03:13] <Stricklin> Wah! I need help! :)
[03:13] <Seveas> wacko_jacko, you might want to try this in your chrooted system: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[03:13] <maku> elc2, get the latest office rpms from openoffice website, convert them to deb using alien & install using dpkg
[03:14] <wacko_jacko> elc2_: which version is included in the standard hoary repositories?
[03:14] <drazQ> I used partition magic to create an ext3 parition of my deskstar disk .. now I get an "EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock" error when trying to mount it .. suggestions to what I did wrong?
[03:14] <Seveas> maku, eww no
[03:14] <Seveas> elc2_, upgrade to breezy
[03:14] <Seveas> hoary has no decent OO.o2
[03:14] <Seveas> and will never have it
[03:14] <elc2_> sorry but i am a new user of ubuntu so your terms are very technnical to me
[03:14] <elc2_> if anyone can help me please
[03:14] <Seveas> elc2_, upgrade to breezy <--
[03:14] <wacko_jacko> seveas: should I chroot from the livecd or do you think it will also be ok to chroot from a different debian-based distro?
[03:14] <elc2_> what's breezy?
[03:15] <drazQ> Seveas: do you know what might cause 'EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock' ?
[03:15] <Seveas> wacko_jacko, makes no difference, as long as you are chrooted into your system :)
[03:15] <drazQ> elc2_: breezy is the newest release of ubuntu
[03:15] <Seveas> drazQ, disk error
[03:15] <Seveas> elc2_, for upgrade notes, look in the topic
[03:15] <patrick__> wacko_jacko ?? what exactly do you mean ?
[03:15] <maku> Seveas, but new ubuntu wont install on the previous one
[03:15] <wacko_jacko> seveas: well "uname -r" might give a different value
[03:15] <Seveas> if you really need OO.o2 that is your only option
[03:15] <Seveas> wacko_jacko, true, but you get the meaning :)
[03:15] <elc2_> can you tell me how can i update hedgehog to breezy?
[03:16] <Seveas> elc2_, for upgrade notes, look in the topic <---
[03:16] <drazQ> Seveas: yes, do you have a pointer to what I should do (e..g a tutorial on partitioning the disc for ubuntu .. ext3 can handle 500GB in one partition right?)
[03:16] <Seveas> maku, upgrades are very easy!
[03:16] <elc2_> where is that one?
[03:16] <wacko_jacko> seveas: in other words, should I use the ubuntu kernel version or the kernel version from the distro I'm chrooting with?
[03:16] <ccooke> !tell elc2 about breezy
[03:16] <Seveas> elc2_, Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:16] <drazQ> elc2_: Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:17] <wacko_jacko> patrick__:: what are you referring to?
[03:17] <maku> Seveas, if u have a working net card :)
[03:17] <Seveas> wacko_jacko, ubuntu kernel package version
[03:17] <patrick__> mode +i
[03:17] <Seveas> type dpkg -l 'linux-image*' in the chroot to find out the exact name
[03:17] <patrick__> wacko jacko, your reply that i had to change mode to + i (don't understand )
[03:18] <wacko_jacko> seveas: 2.6.10-5-386 or the security update 2.6.10-34.6?
[03:18] <Seveas> 2.6.10-5-386
[03:18] <theine> maku, why don't you try a recent daily build of the Ubuntru live-cd and see if your network card is detected
[03:18] <Seveas> maku, true :)
[03:19] <Seveas> but if you grab a recent linux-image-* package it will work :)
[03:19] <maku> theine, Seveas okie ;-)
[03:19] <Seveas> and then you can update the rest
[03:19] <Stricklin> I don't understand exactl what -rwxr-xr-x means
[03:19] <wacko_jacko> patrick__: I think you're confused, that  is just some kind of thing in the IRC channel....it wasn't me
[03:19] <patrick__> modus +i
[03:19] <Stricklin> I'm guessing rw is read/write?
[03:19] <deFrysk> yup
[03:19] <Seveas> Stricklin, it means: regular file with read and execute permissions for everyone and write permission for the owner
[03:20] <Seveas> patrick__, hint: /umode +i
[03:20] <patrick__> oke, it's the BOT i guess, stillhave to find out what that is, thx !!
[03:20] <patrick__> Seveas, done that !!!
[03:20] <theine> maku, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily-live/current/
[03:20] <Stricklin> Where can I read up on exactly what that means? I mean, where do folks recommend?
[03:20] <maku> Seveas, do i need to get just the packages on http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-386
[03:21] <Stricklin> Is there like, a newbie's site?
[03:21] <maku> theine, i think, i just need the updated kernel & modules.  :)
[03:21] <kemik> Stricklin:  the wiki/forums or google or the man-pages
[03:21] <^^PooLups^^> hi alll
[03:22] <^^PooLups^^> i have a problem on my ubuntu linux
[03:22] <^^PooLups^^> i have a lan connction adsl
[03:22] <maku> ^^PooLups^^, go on
[03:22] <theine> maku, sure, that will suffice of course
[03:22] <Seveas> maku, yeah
[03:22] <maku> theine, Seveas okie
[03:22] <^^PooLups^^> i have configured router by dhcp protocol
[03:22] <Seveas> Stricklin, doc.ubuntu.com
[03:22] <patrick__> umode help
[03:22] <^^PooLups^^> but the connection is very very slow
[03:22] <patrick__> help umode
[03:22] <patrick__> help /umode
[03:22] <patrick__> help -l
[03:22] <^^PooLups^^> whot i can do?
[03:23] <patrick__> help
[03:23] <Seveas> patrick__, please stop flooding the channel
[03:23] <Seveas> read an irc tutorial
[03:23] <patrick__> excuse me
[03:23] <deFrysk> lol
[03:23] <deFrysk> patrick__, always start with an /
[03:23] <deFrysk>  like /help
[03:24] <wacko_jacko> seveas: I think I might be getting to the source of the problem....I seem to have many kernels here, can I PM you the output of "dpkg -l"?
[03:24] <Seveas> wacko_jacko, sure
[03:24] <patrick__> thx de Frysk, but i will take the advice, first learn bit more about IRC commands
[03:24] <deFrysk> patrick__, google is your friend :)
[03:24] <maku> Seveas, when i open http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-386, there is no link to download this package, it just gives me a dependency download of 2.6.12.9
[03:24] <patrick__> *smile*
[03:25] <deFrysk> patrick__, and go to #flood to try things
[03:25] <Seveas> maku, sec...
[03:25] <maku> Seveas, oki
[03:25] <patrick__> in this channel ?? that doesn't bother others etc?
[03:25] <kemik> patrick__:  no in #flood
[03:25] <kemik> this is #ubuntu
[03:25] <Stricklin> Whoa! My screen is going all freaky!
[03:25] <patrick__> oke !!!
[03:26] <patrick__> enjoy your sunday, ciao !!!!
[03:26] <Stricklin> WTF?
[03:26] <deFrysk> patrick__, lesson one : /j #flood
[03:26] <^^PooLups^^> how i can fix a slow adsl?
[03:26] <^^PooLups^^> :
[03:26] <^^PooLups^^> i'm desperate
[03:26] <Seveas> maku, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.12%2Flinux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.19_i386.deb&md5sum=388ddf721aea29d55d2f87c63744d08d&arch=i386&type=main
[03:26] <kemik> ^^PooLups^^:  get fiber ;)
[03:27] <^^PooLups^^> is very slow
[03:27] <kemik> ^^PooLups^^:  if you want good help, you'll have to formulate a good question
[03:27] <maku> Seveas, gee... thanks
[03:27] <^^PooLups^^> i have configured with automatic dhcp
[03:27] <^^PooLups^^> protocol
[03:27] <^^PooLups^^> i have a router
[03:27] <nalioth> ^^call your ISP
[03:27] <^^PooLups^^> all work
[03:27] <^^PooLups^^> lan
[03:27] <nalioth> ^^PooLups^^: call your ISP
[03:27] <^^PooLups^^> irc
[03:27] <nalioth> ^^PooLups^^: and type in sentences
[03:28] <^^PooLups^^> but my wondows go very well
[03:28] <^^PooLups^^> and also a mandrake
[03:28] <^^PooLups^^> thay all work
[03:28] <^^PooLups^^> why?
[03:28] <Mazrim> 25 minutes until ubuntu becomes brezzy
[03:28] <kemik> ^^PooLups^^:  because writing 2 words / line is spamming
[03:29] <elc2_> help
[03:29] <elc2_> !
[03:29] <ubotu> elc2_: Syntax error in line 1
[03:29] <kemik> !help
[03:29] <deFrysk> :D
[03:29] <maku> guys whats the difference between 386 & 686 kernels?
[03:29] <elc2_> help!
[03:29] <maku> elc2_, yeah
[03:29] <Seveas> maku, the -686 are tuned for P4
[03:29] <kemik> elc2_:  got a question ?
[03:29] <Mazrim> maku: 386 is older
[03:29] <elc2_> how can i update my system to brezzy>
[03:29] <deFrysk> elc2_, see /topic
[03:29] <Seveas> elc2_, 4(!) people gave you the link to the upgrade notes
[03:29] <Mazrim> elcs_: open up synatic
[03:29] <Seveas> READ THAT PAGE
[03:30] <maku> Seveas, Mazrim, i have centrino, should i go for 686?
[03:30] <elc2_> then?
[03:30] <Mazrim> I dunno
[03:30] <Mazrim> elcs_: hit settings | repos
[03:30] <Seveas> maku, yes
[03:30] <zpierreski> centrino =686
[03:30] <^^PooLups^^> ecuseme for my spam...i'm not very able in irc sessions but i have this problem only on the ubuntu pc 2 windows one and a Mandriva too...works well..is a config problem?
[03:30] <maku> Seveas, okie
[03:30] <deFrysk> elc2_, geez its in the topic , the upgradenotes
[03:31] <Mazrim> elcs_: then replace "hoary" with "breezy"
[03:31] <elc2_> where can i find that one
[03:31] <Seveas> :S
[03:31] <deFrysk> geez
[03:31] <Seveas> elc2_, for the last time http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:32] <elc2_> how can i use that one, i don't even know what to do with it
[03:32] <Seveas> elc2_, READ it
[03:32] <deFrysk> smells like trolling ? or is it me ?
[03:32] <elc2_> sorry, to tell you the truth i am a new user
[03:32] <nalioth> deFrysk: you using "Troll Essence nose spray"?
[03:32] <deFrysk> elc2_, then open that link and READ it
[03:32] <maku> & guys, hibernate option, how does it works? when i hibernate, i do see the screen going blank, but how do i restore the session?
[03:33] <deFrysk> Nakkel, just ran out :D
[03:33] <Seveas> elc2_, new users should be able to read too...
[03:33] <deFrysk> nalioth,
[03:33] <Seveas> maku, when you power it on again it should restore
[03:33] <elc2_> technical term!
[03:33] <maku> Seveas, it boots up with grub & a everything starts from starting, not the previous session
[03:34] <Seveas> maku, hmm, that's bad, do you have a swap partition?
[03:34] <Seveas> a big one preferably :)
[03:34] <maku> Seveas, nope
[03:34] <ompaul> where is smeg on the breezy menu?
[03:34] <maku> Seveas, okay...
[03:34] <deFrysk> ompaul, righklick the menu
[03:34] <maku> Seveas, got it
[03:34] <hubsi> bin wieder da :)
[03:35] <wacko_jacko> elc1_: which terms don't you understand? I will try to explain.
[03:35] <ompaul> not nice - not obvious
[03:35] <wacko_jacko> elc2_: which terms don't you understand? I will try to explain.
[03:35] <deFrysk> ompaul, ten go to edit menu
[03:35] <ompaul> deFrysk, there :)
[03:35] <Stricklin> I found this, and it's making for an interesting read: http://catcode.com/teachmod/
[03:35] <spola> ive got problems with my printer, i set everthing up but it wont print, under XP its no problem
[03:35] <Seveas> ompaul, apps -> system tools -> apps menu editor
[03:35] <maku> Seveas, but not having swap, will it have a -ve impact? i have 256 mb ram
[03:35] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks
[03:36] <Seveas> maku, hibernation uses swap partition to store memory contents
[03:36] <Seveas> that's why you need a (preferably big) swap
[03:36] <mbpillai> spola: which is the printer
[03:36] <maku> Seveas, other than hibernation?
[03:37] <spola> mbpillai, its a canon bjc 4200
[03:38] <spanglesontoast> bah ?
[03:38] <spanglesontoast> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/../../../crt1.o(.text+0x18): In function `_start':
[03:38] <mato> AAA
[03:38] <mbpillai> spola : drivers available in rpm format excat url in a couple of minutes.  I have to search for it
[03:39] <spola> thx
[03:39] <spola> its wierd under gentoo it worke like that no hassle
[03:40] <^^PooLups^^> tks for help bye bye :|
[03:40] <zpierreski> Although I can get flash video out of my mozilla firefox flash plugin,  **I can't get any sound!**
[03:40] <zpierreski> what should I do?
[03:41] <spola> it always prints like two lines of pixels then it just quits
[03:41] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks for smeg :) we needed it
[03:41] <nalioth> ompaul: amaranth wrote smeg
[03:41] <steven_> good morning everyone
[03:41] <ompaul> doh
[03:42] <nalioth> ompaul: amaranth writes smeg
[03:42] <mbpillai> ftspola :ftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/linux/
[03:42] <Seveas> except that I always recommend it
[03:42] <mbpillai> spola :ftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/linux/
[03:42] <zpierreski> does anyone know how to get sound out of the mozilla firefox flash plugin?
[03:42] <ompaul> at least he is not here :)
[03:42] <Seveas> zpierreski, wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[03:43] <mbpillai> spola :it is in rpm format use alien to convert to deb format and install using dpkg -i filename
[03:44] <spola> which one do i need?
[03:44] <steven_> How is sudo secure when your using the same password as the user?
[03:44] <holycow> its not secure at all especially since user passwords are usually trivial
[03:44] <holycow> however
[03:44] <Mazrim> wow
[03:44] <Mazrim> that is reall cool
[03:44] <zpierreski> works great, thanx a ton Seveas!
[03:45] <holycow> an administrator will normally create an 'administrator' type account that has sudo priviledges with a tough pass
[03:45] <holycow> and let the user have access to an account with few or no sudo priviledges for normal use
[03:45] <mbpillai> spola : I have not tried :  bjfilter-pixusip4100-2.50-2.i386.rpm and  bjfilter-common-2.50-2.i386.rpm
[03:45] <zpierreski> how can u edit a user's sudo priveleges?
[03:46] <spola> sudo only has a password so that someone passing by can't quickly do stuff as root
[03:46] <steven_> ok so then how do I disable sudo?
[03:46] <spola> thx
[03:46] <Seveas> steven_, remove all users from /etc/sudoers or uninstall sudo :)
[03:46] <mbpillai>  spola : sudo passwd root to set up root password
[03:47] <nalioth> steven_: it's not a good idea to disable sudo or circumvent it
[03:47] <holycow> or modify /etc/sudoers for proper access ... i don't know what the possibilities are tho
[03:47] <nalioth> steven_: only the first user has the power. any further users added have no priveleges
[03:48] <ompaul> steven_ why did someone go to the bother of writing it in '80/81 and someone else go to the bother of writing  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo ?
[03:48] <zpierreski> is that by default steven_?
[03:48] <Secreth`X> !windowsdrives
[03:48] <ubotu> I heard windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[03:48] <ompaul> steven_ btw that was retorical - requires no answer
[03:49] <Stricklin> I'd like to copy my (Windows) backup Thunderbird mail and mail preferences directory to /etc/mozilla-thunderbird/, but it says I don't have permissions. I'm betting there's an easy fix for that?
[03:49] <Secreth`X> sry nalioth :p
[03:49] <Shin_Gouki> hi nalioth , remember me? ^^
[03:49] <steven_> nalioth, I have to have real secure loptops for all are customer base and info's are on them.... I would feel better going back to root....
[03:49] <holycow> Stricklin, don't do that
[03:49] <Shin_Gouki> hi nalioth , remember me? ^^ i finished the server install!!!
[03:49] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: great!
[03:49] <holycow> Stricklin, copy it to your home dir /home/user/mozilla/whatever
[03:49] <Shin_Gouki> hi nalioth , remember me? ^^ i finished the server install, still no gui...
[03:49] <Stricklin> holycow, why not?
[03:49] <holycow> Stricklin, because its stupid, your preferences are in your user dir
[03:50] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: install xfce4
[03:50] <Stricklin> oh
[03:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Shin_Gouki about apt
[03:50] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, if i got a USB NIC how do i find drivers for it?
[03:50] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, not net acces ATM :/ , first i need to get this USB nic workin
[03:50] <holycow> Stricklin, /etc is for system wide preferences, user specific stuff is in /home, keep your personal settings there
[03:50] <mbpillai>  spola :try modifying /etc/sudoers   commentout the line starting with %admin
[03:50] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: you need to find the chipset for the nic (although it should work o-o-t-b)
[03:51] <Secreth`X> cya guys
[03:54] <Stricklin> Is there some way I can get Gnome to stop resizing my windows? It's very annoying.
[03:54] <holycow> what do you mean resizing
[03:54] <Heijmen> hey everybody... is there some way to get sound back on my system? took out my speakers last night and after i plugged em back in the sound is gone... what's up with that?
[03:55] <holycow> Heijmen, check to make sure you have not muted the mixr in upper right hand corner ...
[03:55] <holycow> ... then right click on volume dealy and do 'open volume control'
[03:55] <holycow> make sure your mixer settings are correct
[03:56] <holycow> in the mixer under 'file change device' you can select the proper sound device for your system
[03:56] <holycow> give that a shot first
[03:56] <maku> hi all, i'm back, had a powercut :)
[03:56] <Stricklin> If I move to /home/foo/ and maximize it, when I move backwards to /home it goes back to being minimized
[03:57] <holycow> Stricklin, you aren't 'moving' anywhere
[03:57] <holycow> you misunderstand
[03:57] <holycow> you have two options:
[03:57] <holycow> a) user non spatial nautilus from application/system/file browser
[03:57] <holycow> that will get you windows like file browser
[03:58] <Vegar> Is it possible to migrate from debian to Ubuntu without reinstalling the system?
[03:58] <comforteagle> where can I find a current list of repos for hoary?  I used the ubuntuguid, but it cant
[03:58] <nightswim> I wouldnt count on it
[03:58] <holycow> or b) what you are using now is 'spatial nautilus'.  spatial nautilus remember each individual windows position and size, and ech folder is opened in a new window
[03:58] <comforteagle> find java/azureus etc etc
[03:58] <Stricklin> Well, the good news is I have mail for the first time in several days :)
[03:58] <holycow> Stricklin, what you actually want to do is mix both forms of nauitlus for specific file management tasks
[03:59] <holycow> different types of work require different workflows, its nice to have the option
[03:59] <basti__> Why is my startpage www.whatuseek.com and I cant remove it? =(
[03:59] <nalioth> comforteagle: ubuntuguide is poison
[03:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell comforteagle about sources
[03:59] <Stricklin> holycow, so, if I go to /home/foo/ and maximize it, the next time I view that directory it'll be maximized already?
[03:59] <holycow> but you are NOT moving backward and forward, you are litterally opening new windows and closing old ones in 'spatial nautilus'
[03:59] <holycow> Stricklin, correct
[03:59] <Heijmen> holycow, thanxxx for the help... not working tho, nothing's changed. dunno...
[03:59] <holycow> Heijmen, if nothing is changed the speakers don't work?
[04:00] <Stricklin> oh, well... maybe that's better :)
[04:00] <Heijmen> holycow, guess so, heh, they worked yesterday, but yeah, who knows... thanxxx for the help tho
[04:00] <holycow> Stricklin, remember its just a tool, learn the tool and learn how it behaves, then figure out how to use it best
[04:01] <dpro\> how do i make programs like cups stop loading at startup?
[04:01] <holycow> Stricklin, most people get stuck on the immediate emotional impression of something like 'spatial nautilus'
[04:01] <basti__> Am I the first one to get my Firefok hijacked in ubuntu? :(
[04:01] <holycow> Stricklin, breezy will have an updated nautilus with an interesting twist to spatial
[04:01] <holycow> basti__, what do you mean hijacked?
[04:02] <holycow> you mean a popup?
[04:02] <Snark> hi
[04:02] <comforteagle> ubotu: tell comforteagle about java
[04:02] <holycow> Heijmen, yeah sorry, you need to make sure speakers are guaranteed to work before you proceed
[04:02] <basti__> holycow, when I start I get www.whatuseek.com as startpage even though it isnt set as startpage
[04:02] <Snark> I installed drgeo 1.0.0-1build1 (breezy/universe)
[04:03] <Snark> it doesn't work at all because apparently it cannot make the link between the glade file and the code
[04:03] <holycow> basti__, what? what happens if you change home page to something else?
[04:03] <Snark> ie: it shows the ui, but nothing is bound to anything
[04:03] <Concord_Dawn> Does anyone know if, when you close a VNC connection, the session stays open?
[04:03] <Snark> except closing the window to quitting
[04:03] <Snark> Concord_Dawn: it stays open
[04:03] <Snark> you can close the client and it will just stay open
[04:03] <Concord_Dawn> :o!
[04:03] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth!, i found the Chipset: REaltek RTL8150 USB 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
[04:03] <Concord_Dawn> thanks :)
[04:04] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth!, and sadly NO it seems NOT to be suppourted ootb :/
[04:05] <holycow> basti__, results?
[04:05] <elc3> hi
[04:06] <basti__> holycow, samo thing =(
[04:06] <elc3> i need help
[04:06] <basti__> some
[04:06] <basti__> same
[04:06] <holycow> basti__, do apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox
[04:06] <holycow> then reinstall it
[04:06] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , give the guides solutions for USB NIC install issues?
[04:06] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: try the realtec website/forums for a way to enable it here
[04:06] <holycow> or rather
[04:06] <holycow> actually try this
[04:06] <holycow> hangon
[04:07] <holycow> oh okay, move your .mozilla directory to somewhere else
[04:07] <holycow> then restart firefox
[04:07] <kbrosnan> I used chown/chmod to take control of some files and I still cannot delete/modify them
[04:07] <mbpillai> basti__, : apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[04:07] <holycow> does it still come up with that page on start?
[04:08] <christian-> how do I full screen mplayer from the terminal ?
[04:08] <christian-> mplayer -what file.avi
[04:08] <holycow> mbpillai, i want him to move his settings, i am wondering if this is an exploit or not ... if its in his home dir not sure, if its in /etc/ it's weird
[04:08] <scenestar> gday all, can anyone of you please take the time and patience to help me with setting up wine PROPERLY, i messed up several times, did a fresh new isntall of ubuntu hoary and im looking for the best way to have wine run msn and IE without past lockups
[04:08] <maku> christian-, mplayer file.avi -fullscreen
[04:09] <christian-> thanks
[04:09] <maku> :)
[04:09] <basti__> I did uninstall
[04:09] <Stricklin> Is there a way to view .wmv files in Linux?
[04:09] <basti__> but it coultdn remove all  files..
[04:09] <elc3> help please in installing open office 2.0 beta in ubuntu hoary
[04:09] <mbpillai> basti__, : then delete ~/.mozilla   also
[04:09] <dpro\> how do i make programs like cups stop loading at startup?
[04:09] <scenestar> Stricklin: there is a package in the repositry
[04:09] <scenestar> that allows you to play them
[04:09] <maku> Stricklin, mplayer
[04:09] <Stricklin> maku, scenestar thanks
[04:10] <christian-> !w32codecs
[04:10] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[04:10] <christian-> !mplayer
[04:10] <christian-> Those two
[04:10] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[04:10] <scenestar> can someone help me out with wine?
[04:10] <scenestar> i cant find the latest winetools package
[04:10] <scenestar> just the tar
[04:10] <Mazrim> ugh
[04:11] <Mazrim> install is not working
[04:11] <Mazrim> can anyone help me?
[04:11] <scenestar> Mazrim: of what?
[04:11] <kbrosnan> holycow: rarely Firefox will parse part of the startup as a url to go, since it is not a vaild url a google IFL search brings up a random page, that might be what happened to basti__
[04:11] <Mazrim> breezy
[04:11] <wacko_jacko> mazrim: what's the problem?
[04:11] <basti__> I set www.google.com as startpage
[04:11] <dpro\> omfg! why are you ignoring me...
[04:11] <dpro\> i asked like twice
[04:12] <Mazrim> some error about ndiswrapper failed to be over written
[04:12] <Mazrim> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.6_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-386
[04:12] <Mazrim> tha
[04:12] <Mazrim> t
[04:12] <Mazrim> than it just quits out
[04:12] <wacko_jacko> dpro: type "man init.d"
[04:12] <holycow> kbrosnan, interesting, i was suspecting something like that
[04:12] <dpro\> wacko_jacko, thaaank you!
[04:12] <pl_ice> hi
[04:12] <wacko_jacko> dpro: nevermind that doesn't work
[04:13] <Stricklin> I must need to add repositories, because it's telling me it can't find those packages
[04:13] <dpro\> wacko_jacko, just found out
[04:13] <holycow> kbrosnan, if removing the .mozilla dir i would of guessed it must be something like that, but if its something with /etc we might of had an interesting situation
[04:13] <dpro\> Stricklin, then just add some...
[04:13] <wacko_jacko> dpro\: ok
[04:13] <dpro\> wacko_jacko, that it didnt work :P
[04:13] <basti__> still there wtf?
[04:14] <Mazrim> anyone?
[04:14] <basti__> now I take use blank page
[04:14] <holycow> basti__, select the blank page icon, or just leave it blank
[04:14] <wacko_jacko> dpro\: I can't remember the syntax.....but there is some manual that will tell you all about startup
[04:14] <Mazrim> can anyone help me with that problem, or point me where to look?
[04:14] <dpro\> wacko_jacko, isnt there a tool like in gentoo called rc-update
[04:15] <holycow> sorry about:blank thats how
[04:15] <mbpillai> holycow:  reinstalling without removing ~/.files  may not give the desired results
[04:15] <Ofe> Would anyone know how to set 56000bps a-link voice-faxmodem with a conexant chipset from 9600bps to 56000bps?
[04:15] <holycow> mbpillai, indeed, you told him to do that without deleting ~./ first remember?
[04:15] <holycow> ;)
[04:16] <christian-> How do I fullscreen a file in mplayer? I just did mplayer -fs file.avi, and it fullscreened the window, but not the video output. Leaving me with an entirely black screen with just a little window (500x500 ish) inside playing the video file
[04:16] <basti__> same thing. I think it might have been some extension that screwed me =/
[04:16] <holycow> basti__, same thing what?
[04:16] <Goek> hej MikkelK  - smut ind i #ubuntu-dk
[04:16] <holycow> did you delete your ./mozilla from /home/user?
[04:16] <basti__> I start firefox and it go to www.whatuseek.com
[04:16] <holycow> please actually provide complete information if you want to continue to recieve help
[04:16] <wacko_jacko> dpro\: yeah, but it is very confusing...you see there are about 20 different ways to initialize programs on bootup in unix and most versions of linux mix and match
[04:16] <mbpillai> holycow: ya it is a logocal error sorry
[04:16] <wacko_jacko> dpro\: rc is one of them
[04:17] <basti__> holycow, yeah I did  rm -rf ~/.mozilla/
[04:17] <holycow> that would of removed extensions too
[04:17] <holycow> thats where they are stored ... well most of them
[04:17] <basti__> yeah they are gone but not that damn page
[04:17] <holycow> i've seen a few that install in /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox ...
[04:18] <holycow> basti__, remove /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox as well
[04:18] <HCl> is there any way to upgrade to breezy?
[04:18] <HCl> oh
[04:18] <HCl> xD
[04:18] <HCl> nevermind >.>;;
[04:18] <nalioth> HCl: please dont flood
[04:18] <Stricklin> Man, I like this way better than Kubuntu
[04:18] <wacko_jacko> dpro\: usually if you poke around /etc/init.d/ you will find what you're looking for
[04:18] <HCl> i'm not flooding -.-...
[04:18] <holycow> basti__, then reinstall firefox
[04:19] <pl_ice> borin'
[04:19] <silwol> is it already possible to send files to a mobile telephone over bluetooth using the gnome-bluetooth tools or can they currently only be received?
[04:19] <christian-> How do I fullscreen a file in mplayer? I just did mplayer -fs file.avi, and it fullscreened the window, but not the video output. Leaving me with an entirely black screen with just a little window (500x500 ish) inside playing the video file
[04:19] <holycow> basti__, if it still comes back remove /etc/mozilla-firefox, but that shouldn't do anythign because if you apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox that will remove that dir for sure
[04:20] <Knelix2> How do I get Firefox to play mpeg movies?
[04:20] <pl_ice> silwol , yeh 2 way communication
[04:20] <basti__> what is /usr/bin/mozilla exactly?
[04:20] <holycow> not /mozilla
[04:20] <holycow> /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[04:20] <holycow> its the actual binaries dir for firefox
[04:20] <silwol> pl_ice: how do I do this? some drag&drop?
[04:20] <holycow> system wide plugins and extensions can get stored there
[04:20] <basti__> sudo
[04:21] <Knelix2> hmm. There's an MPEG extension/plugin I assume.
[04:21] <basti__> ops :P
[04:21] <Knelix2> I normally let QT handle stuff... But I haven't seen a QT plugin for Mozilla.
[04:21] <pl_ice> silwol , pologies :/ though u wrote gammu not gnome ... sorry i use gammu ...
[04:21] <silwol> ok
[04:22] <pl_ice> silwol use gammu ,it's wicked :D
[04:22] <yuacht> hello
[04:22] <yuacht> i've got some problems, just dist-upgraded fr?rom hoary to breezy
[04:23] <Kuolio> :/
[04:23] <silwol> pl_ice: i'll give it a try. although the tools in breezy seem to get working now....
[04:23] <pl_ice> i'm so bored...
[04:23] <pl_ice> silwol  ;) i'll wait till breezy works fully ...
[04:23] <silwol> pl_ice: does gammu work with siemens telephones too?
[04:24] <Kuolio> yuacht: I feel your pain, i tried to dist-upgrade few weeks back and it went so horribly wrong that I ended up doing a clean install
[04:24] <christian-> How do I fullscreen a file in mplayer? I just did mplayer -fs file.avi, and it fullscreened the window, but not the video output. Leaving me with an entirely black screen with just a little window (500x500 ish) inside playing the video file <- Someone just msg me the answer, please?
[04:24] <Knelix2> I don't see a /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox.
[04:24] <pl_ice> silwol , there are 2 main programs for phones, one is gnokii, other gammu, visit their site, but yeh they take (try) all phone companies,
[04:24] <_Tirian_> I'm considering switching to Ubuntu, and I have a few questions. One, does Ubuntu handle multiple monitors automaticly, or do I have to manually edit my xorg.conf?
[04:24] <yuacht> i get errors trying to install the lsb, postfix, mutt, courier and mailx... gives me errors
[04:24] <yuacht> and i can't start x
[04:24] <atripathi> Finally dualbooted Windows2003 but it took 3 installs of ubuntu
[04:24] <Ofe> Would anyone know how to set 56000bps a-link external voice-faxmodem with a conexant chipset from 9600bps to 56000bps? It doesn't say anywhere that it's 9600bps. But firefox dowloads maximum of 900bytes/s and synaptic too. anyone, help?
[04:24] <holycow> Knelix, thats because you don't have mozilla-firefox installed
[04:25] <Knelix2> holycow: I'm using it right now.
[04:25] <GNeRaL> hi
[04:25] <basti__> ok now it works. I had to do apt-get remove --purge firefox
[04:25] <holycow> yuacht, for now its all manual, there is no gui for autoconfiguring that
[04:25] <basti__> kinda strange though. wonder what caused it :S
[04:25] <basvg> hmm, I just changed the primary group of the one user that had root access on my box.. now I get complaints that I'm not in the sudoers file. IS this fixable?
[04:25] <Knelix2> holycow: It's installed with the standard package.
[04:25] <GNeRaL> i've problem about sound card on vcd ? :|
[04:25] <holycow> yuacht, just wait, xorg is being nicely modularized and upgraded, eventually a gui will exist
[04:26] <stpere> Ofe, go to /etc/ppp/peers
[04:26] <holycow> Knelix, how can you be using it then? are you sure your not using epiphany?
[04:26] <JustinHH> how can i see the partitions and their name?
[04:26] <holycow> oryour not in the wrong dir?
[04:26] <stpere> Ofe, look for the file describing your connexion
[04:26] <stpere> connection*
[04:26] <holycow> Knelix, try sudo updatedb && locate mozilla-firefox
[04:26] <stpere> Ofe, it's probably ppp0
[04:26] <stpere> Ofe edit it as root
[04:26] <Knelix2> holycow: No, it's FF 1.0.7.
[04:26] <pl_ice> JustinHH  cat /proc/partitions or fdisk -i /dev/hdx
[04:26] <yuacht> holycow: well the damage is already done. how can i reset everything to hoary?
[04:27] <Ofe> stpere : it's ppp0. I tried pppconfig before and it didn't help.
[04:27] <GNeRaL> root@issever:/home/muhsin # sudo apt-get install libnt*
[04:27] <GNeRaL> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 zkaynak geici olarak kullansz)
[04:27] <GNeRaL> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:27] <GNeRaL> root@issever:/home/muhsin #
[04:27] <holycow> yuacht, what is done? more information please
[04:27] <stpere> Ofe, add the line 115200
[04:27] <GNeRaL> what must i do, please help me :|
[04:27] <holycow> yuacht, all you need is a good xorg.conf file, i guess you didn't make a backup?
[04:27] <JustinHH> pl_ice,  i wannt to see also the file system
[04:27] <holycow> basti__, progress?
[04:28] <JustinHH> pl_ice,  i wannt to see also the file system. there is a configure file or something with all the partitions
[04:28] <holycow> GNeRaL, you have to installation processes open.  usually people have the gui installer running while using command line to install stuff
[04:28] <Ofe> stpere: "bash: /etc/ppp/peers: is a directory" what command should I use? I'm a newbie with linux. :)
[04:28] <stpere> ok
[04:28] <holycow> GNeRaL, or multiple terminals using install that they forgot about
[04:28] <yuacht> holycow: i just can't get lsb + deps installed, neither mutt, courier or mailx
[04:28] <stpere> Ofe: cd /etc/ppp/peers
[04:28] <holycow> ifyou are not sure, log out and log back in
[04:29] <scenestar> hey
[04:29] <JustinHH> the grub loder is not working any more and i can not ron windows or linux
[04:29] <scenestar> whenever i put my laptop in sleep
[04:29] <JustinHH> from mmy hdd
[04:29] <stpere> Ofe, sudo nano ppp0
[04:29] <Knelix2> What do I use as root password in Ubuntu?
[04:29] <holycow> yuacht, what? what does that haveto do with xorg?
[04:29] <scenestar> i cant get it back up
[04:29] <GNeRaL> hmm, i try holycow , thanks
[04:29] <JustinHH> Knelix,  root
[04:29] <scenestar> Knelix: sudo passwd
[04:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Knelix2 about root
[04:29] <holycow> Knelix, nothing, there is no root pass in ubuntu
[04:29] <JustinHH> Knelix,  your user password
[04:29] <SanderD> Hi. My HP PSC 1215 printer doesn't print black -- only gray and colour. In Windows it can print black. How do I fix this?
[04:29] <holycow> Knelix, everything is via sudo
[04:29] <pl_ice> JustinHH sudo fdisk -i /dev/hdx gives me what types of pratitions i got
[04:29] <yuacht> holycow: lol nothing, i never said anything about xorg.
[04:29] <stpere> Ofe, add 115200 on a line alone
[04:30] <atripathi> will sudo apt-get install mjpegtools   install mp3 support ?
[04:30] <holycow> you were asking about dual screen and how to fix your xorg
[04:30] <nalioth> scenestar: that is not the ubuntu way
[04:30] <pl_ice> JustinHH , /etc/fstab for partitions mounting
[04:30] <shackan> is there anything like gtk2-engines-gtk-qt, but working 'the other way round' ?
[04:30] <Ofe> stpere: to the last line? no matter where?
[04:30] <stpere> Ofe, no matter where
[04:30] <holycow> then you randomly switch questions without referencing the last question to first set of inquiries
[04:30] <holycow> if you can't keep track, i don't feel the need to help
[04:30] <yuacht> holycow: you're mistaking me for someone else, i?'ve never said anything about dualscreen
[04:30] <atripathi> someone answer me...I am a newbie here
[04:30] <crtr> how to refresh my desktop ?
[04:30] <Ofe> stpere: ok, did that. do I have to save somewhere or make it apply?
[04:30] <Knelix2> JustinHH: It's not accepting it when I try to run as root in Gnome via the "Run as a different user" app.
[04:30] <holycow> yuacht, inded then, my appologies
[04:31] <ZzZzenwhen> crtr
[04:31] <stpere> Ofe, press CTRL+O
[04:31] <stpere> it will save your file
[04:31] <yuacht> holycow: no problem.
[04:31] <atripathi> hey stpere
[04:31] <yuacht> can i downgrade from breezy to hoary?
[04:31] <stpere> Ofe, hangup your connection
[04:31] <crtr> ZzZzenwhen, ?
[04:31] <ZzZzenwhen> open up /home/Desktop in nautilus and hit refresh
[04:31] <atripathi> will sudo apt-get install mjpegtools  install mp3 playback ??
[04:31] <crtr> 10q
[04:31] <stpere> Ofe, then dialup again
[04:31] <ZzZzenwhen> /home/user/Desktop
[04:31] <nalioth> Knelix2: there is no root account. and it's a VERY bad idea to let gnome gui have root powers
[04:32] <Ofe> stpere: thank you stpere. that should do it? See you soon. :)
[04:32] <basti__> holycow, its gone
[04:32] <stpere> Ofe, yes, should be ok
[04:32] <holycow> basti__, :)
[04:32] <basti__> dunno what caused it though
[04:32] <holycow> basti__, an extension
[04:32] <JustinHH> Knelix, the root password is the passord of your first user made on ubuntu. for example you made a user called Knelix and the password logmein then your root password is logmein
[04:32] <JustinHH> at least that works to me
[04:32] <holycow> basti__, i'm relatively sure you accepted the installation of an extension from an unauthorized source somewhere
[04:32] <nightswim> JustinHH: that's not the root password
[04:33] <stpere> atripathi, I recommend simply doing : sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:33] <nightswim> that's /your/ password
[04:33] <basti__> yeah. I wante the adblock extension
[04:33] <GNeRaL> now, i receivin this error: muhsin@issever:~/Desktop$ wine mirc616.exe
[04:33] <GNeRaL> wine: error while loading shared libraries: libntdll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:33] <GNeRaL> muhsin@issever:~/Desktop$
[04:33] <atripathi> stpere...what will it do .. may i have a little info over that ?
[04:33] <dpro\> wacko_jacko, ok, i found out at last
[04:33] <stpere> atripathi, every application using gstreamer will be able to read mp3s
[04:33] <atripathi> will it install mp3 codecs ?
[04:33] <basti__> but official one didnt work so I took it from somewhere else
[04:33] <nalioth> nightswim: the root account is disabled by default. the first users pass is functionally equivelant
[04:33] <dpro\> wacko_jacko, just install sysvconfig
[04:33] <atripathi> does xmms use it ?
[04:33] <stpere> it's a plugin for gstreamer that will enable the mad decoder
[04:33] <holycow> basti__, if removing your moz directories fixed it, thats where it was located, i was afraid that they horked something else on your system which would of been serious
[04:33] <stpere> atripathi, it's a mp3 decoder
[04:33] <holycow> basti__, download it from the mozilla website for extensions, i use it and it works great.
[04:34] <atripathi> ok thanks i will try it now
[04:34] <atripathi> :)
[04:34] <yuacht> can i downgrade from breezy to hoary? anyone?
[04:34] <Kyral> yuacht, nope
[04:34] <holycow> basti__, make sure to NEVER download extension from anywhere but the moz website, and then be carefull
[04:34] <inc|freaky> yuacht: no
[04:34] <basti__> ak thx :)
[04:34] <christian-> what is the command to fullscreen mplayer ? -fs merely fullscreens the window, not the video output
[04:34] <stpere> atripathi, you will be able to play mp3 in rhythmbox for example
[04:34] <JustinHH> nightswim,  well in ubuntu at the firs login it works to me
[04:34] <holycow> basti__, if you installed adblock from somewhere else, someone modified it to include that redirect ... bad bad bad :)
[04:34] <inc|freaky> yuacht: you can but its not supported and you will run in many problems i guess there is a guide for debian for downgrading just search the web ive never done it and i wouldnt do it though
[04:35] <pl_ice> i'm bored, any one for a beer?
[04:35] <nalioth> yuacht: very very difficult. easier to reinstall
[04:35] <holycow> pl_ice, can you fax over a bottle?
[04:35] <JustinHH> how do i mount a drive?
[04:35] <holycow> >_>
[04:35] <inc|freaky> pl_ice: sure if yya have one for me :D
[04:35] <atripathi> stpere:   E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:35] <kbrosnan> any thoughts on why if I am the owner and have full permissions I cannot delete/modify files/folders
[04:35] <pl_ice> ok, my buy, but u guys get here ;)
[04:35] <Knelix2> nalioth: Yes, so everyone keeps saying.. I just don't understand how I can do some real file management and work without being able to login as root every once in a while in Gnome. So, it's okay to sudo, etc in the terminal or CLI, but give root powers to the gui front end..  oh no... seriously that's a huge deficiency, the way I see it.
[04:35] <inc|freaky> JustinHH: mount /dev/device /dir/to/mount/it/in
[04:35] <nalioth> atripathi: so do what it says
[04:35] <JustinHH> but i don't know the exact device name
[04:35] <JustinHH> :(
[04:35] <holycow> kbrosnan, you can only delete your own by default.  to delete other files you can do sudo rm filename ...e tc.
[04:36] <holycow> kbrosnan, be very carefull
[04:36] <kemik> JustinHH:  "sudo fdisk -l"
[04:36] <yuacht> ok... well, can somebody send me their breezy sources.list with universe and such enabled? mine's messed up
[04:36] <JustinHH> the partition name
[04:36] <JustinHH> right
[04:36] <nalioth> Knelix2: gnome doesnt play well empowered (causes lots of userspace problems afterward)
[04:36] <pl_ice> JustinHH , what u trying to mount?
[04:36] <atripathi> Reading package lists... Done
[04:36] <basti__> holycow, yeah those bastards :(
[04:36] <atripathi> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:36] <atripathi> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:36] <nalioth> yuacht: /msg ubotu sources
[04:36] <Toma-> whats the command that makes deb packages?
[04:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell atripathi about sources
[04:36] <Kyral> from what?
[04:36] <Toma-> fom source
[04:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Toma- about checkinstall
[04:36] <stpere> atripathi, you need to add some repositories
[04:36] <JustinHH> a partition in order to reinstall grub from dos
[04:36] <Kyral> if you download stuff from the apt-source its dpkg-buildpackage
[04:37] <stpere> atripathi, read what ubotu says
[04:37] <JustinHH> my hdd doesn't boot any more
[04:37] <inc|freaky> nalioth: im always using checkinstall now :)
[04:37] <JustinHH> i am using now the live cd
[04:37] <JustinHH> :((
[04:37] <kbrosnan> I own the files, I chowned them
[04:37] <pl_ice> JustinHH , do u know on which hd it is, or it's size?
[04:37] <Knelix2> naliot: Honestly, I think that needs to be addressed at some point.
[04:37] <atripathi> yeah i got it
[04:37] <holycow> basti__, well the responsobility is yours, never ever trust anone on the net, even us.  keep an eye on all communities, if a community has a vested interest in 'moral' subjects like say here and keeping things safe then you might consider trusting a few people :)
[04:37] <JustinHH> grub?
[04:37] <Knelix2> nalioth, that is.
[04:37] <atripathi> will do it now
[04:37] <Kyral> but if you are doing something that has never been "debianized" before and want to do it RIGHT then look in the Debian New Maintainers Guide
[04:37] <JustinHH> pl_ice,  grub instaled?
[04:37] <yuacht> hmm, how do i switch windows in irssi`? =)
[04:37] <JustinHH> yes
[04:37] <nalioth> Knelix2: address it to the gnome team
[04:37] <kemik> Knelix2:  cant you just run nautilus with gksudo and problem's solved
[04:37] <JustinHH> but i don`t know what i should do
[04:37] <ultramancool> hi
[04:37] <christian-> what is the command to fullscreen mplayer ? -fs merely fullscreens the window, not the video output
[04:38] <Toma-> Kyral: making rpms was more fun :(
[04:38] <ultramancool> what's the su group in ubuntu?
[04:38] <ultramancool> there no wheel
[04:38] <Knelix2> nalioth: Yeah, maybe I will. Doubt they'll listen to little me, but sure.
[04:38] <pl_ice> JustinHH there is howto on ubuntuforums.org for recovering grub
[04:38] <JustinHH> if i run the setup cd will i be able to  access windows
[04:38] <kemik> ultramancool:  admin i think
[04:38] <christian-> Oh, and it's the same with -fs -fstype fullscreen
[04:38] <ultramancool> no it can't be
[04:38] <JustinHH> i hope i can manage it
[04:38] <yuacht> anyone? switch windows in irssi?
[04:38] <holycow> Knelix, just start nautilus with sudo, whats the problem?
[04:38] <nalioth> Knelix2: use gksudo as kemik pointed out. but you have been warned
[04:38] <holycow> sudo nautilus
[04:38] <holycow> voila, nautilus with root powers
[04:39] <holycow> ditto for all apps
[04:39] <holycow> capish?
[04:39] <kbrosnan> yuacht: meta + number row
[04:39] <nalioth> holycow: gksudo works better for gui apps
[04:39] <ultramancool> other users can still su to my account then sudo for root access
[04:39] <holycow> what nalioth said, never used that :)
[04:39] <Krneki> hay
[04:39] <Krneki> how to set mail server on ubuntu
[04:39] <kemik> ultramancool:  well if they su to your account, then they become you
[04:39] <yuacht> kbrosnan: what? =)
[04:39] <holycow> nalioth, ah cool! thx for the tip :)
[04:39] <Knelix2> kemik: Maybe-- I'll look into that. I mean, I can just use the terminal, but I wish I could just as *safetly* use it in the gui
[04:40] <JustinHH> when i am using the live cd can i edit fstab? or to be able to edit it must i be loged in as root?
[04:40] <kbrosnan> yuacht: meta is alt on most systems also ctrl + n/p
[04:40] <ultramancool> how do i make it so that only certain users can su?
[04:40] <christian-> what is the command to fullscreen mplayer ? -fs merely fullscreens the window, not the video output. Can it even be done? I
[04:41] <kemik> christian-:  we saw you the first time
[04:41] <atripathi> I am making serious attempt to turn to linux
[04:41] <christian-> 've installed w32codecs and everything seems to be in working order, except that I can only run mplayer via the terminal
[04:41] <atripathi> thanks for the support
[04:41] <christian-> kemik, really? You saw me for the first time 2 hours ago ?
[04:41] <christian-> That's super!
[04:41] <ultramancool> can anyone help?
[04:41] <Kuolio> christian-: I have same problem, quite annoying actualy
[04:42] <holycow> christian-, you can create a launcher
[04:42] <JustinHH> pl_ice, on that link i could find only a forum with editing the menu of grub
[04:42] <holycow> right click on your panel and add launcher applet
[04:42] <holycow> custom launcher applet
[04:42] <ultramancool> yes make a launcher that runs it in the terminal
[04:42] <christian-> Kuolio, it's more than annoying innit? We turn to linux because windows always crashes and never works, yet the tables are turned when we install linux. Now we can
[04:42] <holycow> then right click on the foot, and put the mplayer command in the command line
[04:42] <holycow> christian-, presto chango
[04:42] <Krneki> jay
[04:42] <christian-> 't even perform the most simple tasks, tho we can compile c++ code easy
[04:42] <Kuolio> christian-: does it happen to you only with wmv9 videofiles? Coz for me it's only with them
[04:42] <christian-> :D
[04:42] <Krneki> hay
[04:43] <Krneki> how to do mail server please help
[04:43] <christian-> Kuolio, it's all files for me
[04:43] <christian-> video files ofcourse
[04:43] <maku> jet_, hiya
[04:43] <ultramancool> sudo apt-get install (mailserver)
[04:43] <kemik> christian-:  use mplayer-gui adn there's a fullscreen option in the menu
[04:43] <holycow> christian-, actually the reason for 'not being able to do the simpel tasks'
[04:43] <holycow> christian-, is because you were taught bad bad bad habits on windows
[04:43] <atripathi> abhishek@ubuntu:~$  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:43] <atripathi> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:43] <atripathi> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:44] <nalioth> atripathi: apt can only be run one process at a time
[04:44] <Stricklin> holycow, ASF files?
[04:44] <ultramancool> sudo killall dpkg
[04:44] <holycow> christian-, the reason you cannot is because you are now running a true multiuser system with proper security setup, or rather at least it is assumed that you must not run as 'admin'
[04:44] <atripathi> thanks ultra
[04:44] <holycow> which is really what prevents people from 'doing all the basic stuff'
[04:44] <ultramancool> if that fails rm the lockfile
[04:44] <atripathi> it says "no process killed"
[04:44] <Stricklin> I've gotta say, I'm liking this so far
[04:45] <christian-> kemik, bash: mplayer-gui: command not found - or was that not what you meant ?
[04:45] <holycow> Stricklin, what about asf files?
[04:45] <ultramancool> gmplayer is the mplayer gui
[04:45] <Stricklin> ...a bit of a learning curve, but I'm liking it
[04:45] <christian-> ultramancool, so I should download gmplayer ?
[04:45] <kemik> christian-:  gmplayer
[04:45] <Stricklin> How to play them?
[04:45] <christian-> !gmplayer
[04:45] <ubotu> christian-: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:45] <kemik> christian-:  but i think it's called mplayer-gui in the repositories
[04:45] <ultramancool> try typing gmplayer if it's in the package
[04:45] <ultramancool> otherwise
[04:45] <pl_ice> ultramancool i think via PAM u can disable/change su
[04:45] <holycow> Stricklin, the most important thing to remember is that it isn't windows, learn the tool and how it works on its own terms.  you will absorb most of the knowledge through osmosis :)
[04:46] <ultramancool> apt-get install gmplayer
[04:46] <christian-> kemik, mplayer-gui in the apt-get thing, right ?
[04:46] <JustinHH> does anyone know how i can recover grub?
[04:46] <kemik> mmh
[04:46] <ultramancool> pl_ice:how would i go about this?
[04:46] <maku> jet_, yeah
[04:46] <christian-> E: Couldn't find package gmplayer - E: Couldn't find package mplayer-gui
[04:46] <pl_ice> ultramancool i'm just lookin in the book :/
[04:46] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Does CUPS come standard with Hoary?
[04:46] <kemik> christian-:  enable universe
[04:46] <ultramancool> try running gmplayer
[04:46] <holycow> Biscuitian_Warhe, yes
[04:46] <jet_> ubuntu has an option of root console in any user account
[04:47] <atripathi> is flac a mp3 decoder?
[04:47] <jet_> is it not a loophole
[04:47] <Stricklin> breakfast...
[04:47] <jet_> ???????
[04:47] <crtr> I have .taz.gz in /var/www and the archive is 4 GB . I can't see it in web browser , why ?
[04:47] <maku> jet_, ask ur problem
[04:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Does Hoary use XFree86 or xorg, and which version of it does it use?
[04:47] <jet_> to whom
[04:47] <holycow> jet_, everyone
[04:47] <jet_> ok
[04:47] <JustinHH> how can i mount a device?
[04:48] <kemik> crtr:  got a httpd installed?
[04:48] <pl_ice> ultramancool , yeh u can do PAM on it, i got example in the book, but it's not that new
[04:48] <jet_> i intended to ask that ubuntu provides a root console
[04:48] <kemik> Biscuitian_Warhe:  xorg
[04:48] <jet_> to every user
[04:48] <ultramancool> which book?
[04:48] <holycow> crtr, you mean because you don't have apache installed maybe?
[04:48] <jet_> isnt it a loophole
[04:48] <kemik> jet_:  huh ?
[04:48] <crtr> no , i have it
[04:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> JustinHH: the holy mount command
[04:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> mount
[04:48] <christian-> ultramancool, gmplayer launches the mplayer gui
[04:48] <ultramancool> pl_ice:which book?
[04:48] <crtr> i have other files in /var/www
[04:48] <christian-> But it does not make it work
[04:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> kemik: What version, 6.8?
[04:48] <crtr> but i cant's see only that archive
[04:49] <christian-> the mplayer-gui freezes up
[04:49] <kemik> Biscuitian_Warhe:  not sure
[04:49] <holycow> crtr, remove index.html or whatever is in there by default so it shows the directory tree maybe?
[04:49] <pl_ice> JustinHH , can u post it on ubuntuforum? someone will help.. i don't know really..
[04:49] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Does anyone know the xorg version that comes with Hoary
[04:49] <christian-> and the only way to remove it is to kill the mplayer process
[04:49] <crtr> i have removed it already
[04:49] <crtr> and i can see the other folders and files
[04:49] <christian-> which is why I'm running mplayer from the terminal
[04:49] <christian-> because the gui-interface won't work
[04:49] <ultramancool> christian-: maybe try compiling mplayer yourself?
[04:50] <pl_ice> ultramancool :linux security system by S Mann, l Mitchell, but that stuff should be in any security papers, just find howto PAM
[04:50] <ultramancool> it's pretty easy
[04:50] <christian-> Would that help, you think ?
[04:50] <holycow> christian-, heh, i haveto occasionally run totem from cli when playing dvds with weird encryption issues so i can kill it safely too
[04:50] <ultramancool> christian-: it's worth a shot
[04:50] <christian-> holycow, I'd use totem - but it does not seem to have registred my downloaded/installed codecs
[04:51] <scenestar> hmmm
[04:51] <atripathi> hey guys million thanks
[04:51] <scenestar> i prefer vlc anyways
[04:51] <holycow> christian-, thats because default totem is totem-gstreamer
[04:51] <atripathi> mp3 is rocking on my system
[04:51] <pl_ice> atripathi ,on my too ;)
[04:51] <_Tirian_> Does Ubuntu support multiple monitors automaticly?
[04:51] <holycow> remove totem-gstreamer and install totem-xine (totem gstreamer is a little wacky for now anyway)
[04:51] <kemik> christian-:  totem-xine
[04:51] <holycow> then install w32codecs package
[04:51] <holycow> and voila
[04:51] <kemik> christian-:  but i would recommend vlc
[04:51] <holycow> you can pretty much play anything
[04:51] <ultramancool> pl_ice i found the pam config
[04:51] <atripathi> it was one of the major problem i had on ubuntu
[04:52] <Ofe> who was the guy who helped me out with my slow connection?
[04:52] <christian-> kemik, I'm installing vlc via apt-get right now
[04:52] <atripathi> apart from dualboot and screen resolution
[04:52] <ultramancool> christian-: vlc and xine are much better for most videos
[04:52] <christian-> I'm also logging the conversation, and if vlc does not work, I'll try to compile mplayer myslef
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> vlc is very nice in many ways.
[04:52] <holycow> christian-, also switch to totem-xine and install w32codecs ... if totem has an issue you can always run vlc or vice versa
[04:52] <pl_ice> ultramancool u better read some man before u touch it!!
[04:52] <jet_> everytime i update ubuntu theres written locales not set . wat does that mean????//
[04:53] <zeroverse> hi, i have 5.10 installed and updated, but can't get dvd's to play and libdvdcss2 isn't in my sources list...any suggestions?
[04:53] <holycow> christian-, no need to compile mplayer, follow the totem xine instructions, you can finish it in like 3 minutes
[04:53] <Ofe> spindley? was it you who helped me?
[04:53] <holycow> dont forget the win32codecs, very important
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> zeroverse,  check the wikis and forums. theres a few extra packages/repos you got to add and install.
[04:53] <ultramancool> have fun, i've gotta go hack at my pam config for a while :D
[04:53] <zeroverse> dr, thanks
[04:54] <jet_> everytime i update ubuntu theres written locales not set . wat does that mean???? can anybody help?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> zeroverse,  actually last night - i dieent have to add any odd repos. Just had to install a few dozen packages :P
[04:54] <kennethlove> every freakin' time i look up, someone's mentioning the w32codecs.
[04:54] <kennethlove> maybe they should be included by default. ;)
[04:54] <nalioth> kennethlove: you can thank uncle bill for that
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> kennethlove,  legally they cant. :P
[04:54] <LaserLine> When is the release date of Breezy....
[04:54] <kennethlove> Dr_Willis: yeah, i know.
[04:55] <ultramancool> holly crap that was easy, i just turned on wheel
[04:55] <christian-> hehe
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/  - has w32codec's
[04:55] <christian-> The fullscreen works in vlc
[04:55] <christian-> hehe, but the sound doesn't :D
[04:55] <ultramancool> yipee :D
[04:55] <ultramancool> lol
[04:55] <kennethlove> how about sticking something in the initial boot-up of GNOME that says "install w3codecs NOW"
[04:55] <nalioth> kennethlove: b/c some of us can't use w32codecs
[04:55] <ultramancool> christian-: fiddle with the config
[04:55] <pnall> plz
[04:55] <kennethlove> and we could have a little dancing paperclip
[04:55] <atripathi> I wanna query something...... If  I have to install ubuntu again then is it possible to install with /opt mounted on the previous partition and thereby preserving my data ?
[04:56] <christian-> ultramancool, you mean the gui preferences ? :/
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> kennethlove,  why not have a 'smart-tweaking-script' that downloads/updates all this less-then-legal stuff . :P
[04:56] <ultramancool> is there a way i can restart pam w/o rebooting?
[04:56] <ultramancool> christian-: yes
[04:56] <atripathi> ultraman any idea?
[04:57] <kennethlove> Dr_Willis: just as good. turns on MP3 support (if it's off, didn't seem to be in breezy), downloads the codecs and the MS fonts.
[04:57] <ultramancool> christian-: but there's probably a config file with more options
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> kennethlove,  of course thats all about a 1 line apt-get command. :P
[04:57] <pl_ice> heh, time for bed :/
[04:57] <holycow> *ew*
[04:58] <holycow> don't download the ms fonts, they are horrid
[04:58] <pl_ice> bye
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install Make-legalstuff-work
[04:58] <ultramancool> pl_ice:bye thanks
[04:58] <holycow> let your eye get used to the freebies on linux, they are quite beautiful
[04:58] <kennethlove> Dr_Willis: yeah, i know that, too. :) but for the new people.
[04:58] <pl_ice> holycow , many people need ms fonts like me :/ for my language...
[04:58] <holycow> once you get used to them and  you go back to windows you will wonder what blind people designed those fonts
[04:58] <ultramancool> apt-get install riaakiller
[04:58] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Microsoft.. what an evil word
[04:58] <christian-> ultramancool, I really suck at this. I only installed linux 2 days ago
[04:58] <holycow> pl_ice, you don't have chareacters for your language in standard font set on ubuntu?
[04:58] <christian-> ultramancool, so I'll just try 'something' and then return
[04:59] <ultramancool> just keep fidling eventually you'll get it :D
[04:59] <pl_ice> holycow nope, not all of them, i'm really using vernadana or something like that font
[04:59] <ultramancool> christian-:that's what i do and i only format every 2 weeks :D
[04:59] <holycow> christian-, remember, you are learning a whole new os, don't expect to learn something like that in 2 days what took 15 years with the other guys
[04:59] <holycow> :)
[04:59] <holycow> christian-, welcome btw
[04:59] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Yeah
[04:59] <pl_ice> holycow mind u my console font sux :/
[04:59] <holycow> pl_ice, all cool :) i was editorializing
[04:59] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Linux isn't easy cheesy to learn at first
[04:59] <bam_> hey anyone know of any other ipod manage r besides gtkpod?
[05:00] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Whats wrong with gtkpod.. Lol
[05:00] <pl_ice> bam_ gnupod i'm using it :D sweet and really fast
[05:00] <holycow> Biscuitian_Warhe, neitehr is windows, the biggest problem is people forget they have 15 years of training
[05:00] <WhiteRabbit> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mark_Shuttleworth_NASA.jpg the man who brought Ubuntu
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Step #1 - UNLEARN your MS-Lemming-ZOmbie ways
[05:00] <pl_ice> oki, bye bye
[05:00] <bam_> gnupod...
[05:00] <bam_> hmmm
[05:00] <christian-> holycow, hehe, thank you. I've always had windows on my stationary computer, but then last year I got a macintosh and ended up really fed up with windows
[05:00] <ultramancool> christian-: once you get used to a command line everything becomes simpler.
[05:00] <bam_> is there a feed for it
[05:00] <scenestar> yeah and thats the whole problem
[05:00] <kennethlove> yeah, CLI > *
[05:00] <nalioth> !cli
[05:00] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[05:00] <christian-> Now the mac is at the repair shop, and I'm reclaiming my computer in the name of linux :D
[05:00] <holycow> what ultramancool said is true.  i didn't believe it but it is true
[05:01] <apokryphos> WhiteRabbit: he has long hair now!
[05:01] <apokryphos> and looks older :P
[05:01] <yuacht> what's the rfb package?
[05:01] <holycow> all guis do is 'automate that which can be automated' or 'allow you to maniuplate data that requires windowing, say like graphics' or such
[05:01] <ultramancool> holycow: which one? the command line or the format the hd every 2 weeks?
[05:01] <WhiteRabbit> apokryphos, Well His money will always be the sexy to me ;)~
[05:01] <holycow> ultramancool, cli, i didn't read the formating bit :)
[05:02] <yuacht> to view info about a package in the terminal, you run something like apt-cache something package? what's something supposed to be?
[05:02] <ultramancool> i think my current ubuntu's lasted me about a month! :D
[05:02] <holycow> ultramancool, what did you say about formatting?
[05:02] <ultramancool> christian-:that's what i do and i only format every 2 weeks :D
[05:03] <ultramancool> holycow: "christian-:that's what i do and i only format every 2 weeks :D"
[05:03] <christian-> I'm gonna stick with this ubuntu install until I get my Breezy cd :)
[05:03] <fbn> should I use Sylpheed 2 or Sylpheed-claws ?
[05:03] <holycow> heh
[05:03] <ultramancool> christian-: if you go do a gentoo install for a month you'll learn a LOT!!!
[05:04] <christian-> :/
[05:04] <apokryphos> ultramancool: you'd learn more with LFS
[05:04] <christian-> Isn't this the ubuntu fanclub ?
[05:04] <Seveas> ultramancool, you'll learn how not to create a distro...
[05:04] <ultramancool> apokryphos:yes true but i wanted package management :D
[05:05] <christian-> ultramancool, where do you think the vlc config is at ?
[05:05] <ultramancool> /etc/dunno :D
[05:05] <christian-> haha
[05:05] <ultramancool> i'll check
[05:05] <ultramancool> installing vlc...
[05:05] <nalioth> ultramancool: you can have the package management of your choice in LFS
[05:06] <christian-> nalioth, "LFS" ?
[05:06] <ultramancool> nalioth: yes but you've still got to find all the url's yourself
[05:06] <ultramancool> LFS: Linux From Scratch
[05:06] <christian-> k
[05:06] <nalioth> christian-: www.linuxfromscratch.org
[05:07] <procrastinationn> how do i unpackage a tar???
[05:07] <ali4728> Help I get "554 <email@domain.com>: Relay access denied"  error message from imap client (postfix + Courier-Imap) here is mail.log http://pastebin.com/380563. Any comments appreciated.
[05:07] <ultramancool> tar xvf
[05:07] <apokryphos> procrastinationn: man tar
[05:07] <Seveas> procrastinationn, tar xf filename.tar
[05:07] <ultramancool> or tar xzvf
[05:07] <ultramancool> or tar xvjf depending on it's compression
[05:08] <nxv_> hi i try to install ati drivers, i have installed all the debs generated by the ati installer. afaik. but cant find fglrx_config
[05:08] <Seveas> ali4728, so you're not allowed to send mail through that server...
[05:08] <Seveas> use a server where you are allowed to send e-mail
[05:08] <ali4728> Seveas, how do I make it able?
[05:08] <Seveas> ali4728, talk to the admin of the server...
[05:08] <Seveas> !tell nxv_ about ati
[05:09] <ali4728> Seveas, I am server and the remote client too
[05:09] <jalai> testing moro
[05:09] <drummer87> hi, what's a good frontend for managing ip/network traffic routing?
[05:09] <ultramancool> christian-: http://www.videolan.org/doc/faq/en/index.html#id278264 tell you where vlc has it's config hidden :D
[05:09] <nightswim> /sbin/ip
[05:09] <Seveas> ali4728, then read the documentation of your mail server -- the steps to set this up properly are not easily explained on IRC...
[05:10] <nxv_> thx Seveas
[05:10] <procrastinationn> im trying to unpack this   xlil_v1.0.tar.gz
[05:10] <nalioth> drummer87: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[05:10] <christian-> damn .hidden files heh
[05:10] <ali4728> Seveas, thnx alot
[05:10] <apokryphos> procrastinationn: so read man tar
[05:10] <procrastinationn> lol
[05:10] <Seveas> ali4728, search for 'smtp access' and 'relay client'
[05:11] <ultramancool> christian-: get used to it :D
[05:11] <procrastinationn> i am its like alien language
[05:11] <christian-> ultramancool, bash: cd: .vlc/vlcrc: No such file or directory
[05:11] <christian-> there's only .vlc/cache
[05:12] <ultramancool> christian-: crap
[05:12] <christian-> But that does not contain a config
[05:12] <ultramancool> christian-: try changin a config option then saving maybe it would then place a vlcrc
[05:12] <JustinHH> what is the command in the terminal to unzip a tar.gz-file
[05:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell JustinHH about cli
[05:12] <christian-> ultramancool, k !
[05:12] <vikash> hi
[05:13] <drummer87> thanks nalioth
[05:13] <apokryphos> hi there
[05:13] <ultramancool> christian-: i jus tryed it :-( it didn't work for me
[05:13] <LaserLine> Hello all, is there a way to change the directory where firefox saves it's temporary internet files ??
[05:13] <theine> JustinHH, tar xzf <tar.gz-file>
[05:14] <nalioth> drummer87: firestarter is most commonly used, but there are choices. (besides. firewalls are unnecessary in ubuntu)
[05:14] <ultramancool> christian-: got it!
[05:14] <LaserLine> I'd be glad to know how to change that in Opera 8.5 also
[05:14] <christian-> ultramancool, it sorta worked for me... Except = bash: cd: vlcrc: Not a directory
[05:14] <ultramancool> christian-: it's a file :D
[05:14] <christian-> Oh, that's the config file ?
[05:14] <ultramancool> christian-: run your favourite text editor on it
[05:15] <Anak1n> !mount
[05:15] <ubotu> [mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[05:15] <ultramancool> cool
[05:15] <ultramancool> !cd
[05:15] <ubotu> ultramancool: Not a clue
[05:15] <ultramancool> lol
[05:15] <christian-> ultramancool, Ace! I'm looking at the config now... hehe, It's quite long !
[05:15] <LaserLine> Anyone knows how to do what I asked ?
[05:15] <JustinHH> thx The_Vox
[05:16] <JustinHH> thx theine
[05:16] <Anak1n> how can I mount hdd fat32 secondary slave?
[05:16] <ultramancool> christian-: does your sound even work normally?
[05:16] <christian-> it works in mplayer
[05:16] <christian-> and when I boot ubuntu
[05:16] <ultramancool> ok try ls /dev/dsp
[05:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Anak1n about windowsdrives
[05:17] <ultramancool> christian-: ok try ls /dev/dsp
[05:17] <christian-> christian@bageriet:~/.vlc$ ls /dev/dsp = /dev/dsp
[05:17] <ultramancool> good
[05:17] <ultramancool> christian-: good
[05:17] <ultramancool> christian-: that's your sound device
[05:17] <zth> ok i get a Ski????????ppi/X1??1R6/lib/modules/libfb.abmmx.o": No Symbols found... trying to start X... hel??p!
[05:18] <Anak1n> nalioth: I just want to mount it for a sec. to transfer some data
[05:18] <ultramancool> christian-: see if there's a spot for you to put that in the config file?
[05:18] <zth> nvm all the ???'s
[05:18] <ultramancool> look in the OSS section :D
[05:19] <ultramancool> christian-:look in the OSS section :D
[05:19] <christian-> I found something, pM
[05:19] <christian-> 'ed it to you
[05:22] <shawnz> how to go from lilo to grub in ubuntu anyone?
[05:23] <grayman> hey
[05:23] <Vegar> hey grayman
[05:23] <grayman> not you dude
[05:24] <grayman> i'd like to ask a question about ati drivers
[05:24] <grayman> is there any problem with them?
[05:25] <seife> i think u dont need drivers
[05:25] <apokryphos> yes, ATI on Linux is generally annoying
[05:25] <drummer87> the one's from the ati site? they work fine for me.
[05:25] <grayman> after i installed them the games became slow
[05:25] <grayman> like really slow
[05:25] <seife> uninstall
[05:26] <shawnz> why did they change the Circle of Friends artwork again :( it looks horrible now
[05:26] <shawnz> not to mention removing the browser homepage :(
[05:26] <Bateau_> how can i install SMTP server? can i use apt-get? what program should i install?
[05:26] <KJoN> How Do I change fat32 volume labels without destroying its data?
[05:27] <mysterious_w> erm, How long til 5.10 is a full official release?
[05:27] <KJoN> mysterious_w: 13rd. Oct.
[05:28] <KJoN> I need help with volume labeling... any volunteers?
[05:28] <StyXman> hi all
[05:29] <Mars__^> Hi
[05:29] <mysterious_w> good good, there will still be a live CD, right?
[05:29] <zth> ok i get a Ski?ppng "/usr/X1?1R6/lib/modules/libfb.abmmx.o": No Symbols found... trying to start X... hel?p!im on breezy
[05:29] <StyXman> I'm trying to use mod-xslt for apache2, and I get this error: XSLTDefaultStylesheet not allowed
[05:29] <Mars__^> I downloaded game :enemyterritory.run How can i open it?
[05:29] <Belutz> how do i force uninstall a program?
[05:29] <StyXman> The directive is present in a .htacces in one of the user's public_html
[05:29] <StyXman> how can I allow it?
[05:30] <StyXman> google gave me no useful answer...
[05:31] <Mars__^> How to open *.run ???
[05:31] <StyXman> Mars__^: just set the executable bit and run it from a terminal
[05:31] <Mars__^> so sun et.run?
[05:31] <Mars__^> run
[05:32] <StyXman> Mars__^: uhm?
[05:32] <Mars__^> i downloaded it and?
[05:32] <StyXman> Mars__^: I said
[05:32] <StyXman> set the exec bit, open a termninal, and run it
[05:33] <Mars__^> set what ? i dont understand
[05:33] <StyXman> ok, got to the properties dialog for that file, set the executable bit
[05:33] <tck> anyone get kismet + orinoco card working with breezy ?
[05:34] <Goek> if i don't remember typing in a root code, when i installed my set, what could it be?
[05:34] <tck> is it the same long drawn out affair as hoary ?
[05:34] <StyXman> Goek: you have no root
[05:34] <StyXman> you have sudo
[05:34] <BiggieSma> does anyone know when breezy final will be released?
[05:34] <pminetti> please some one can explain how to conect to internet with adls modem?
[05:34] <butcherbird> tck: only thing you should have to do is look in kismet.conf file and uncomment your card, then comment out whatever was default
[05:34] <tck> really ?
[05:34] <BiggieSma> er nm i see it in the topic
[05:34] <StyXman> Goek: you do everything through sudo, even changing root passwd :)
[05:34] <tck> i tried that butcherbird
[05:35] <StyXman> pminetti: it works with pppoe?
[05:35] <butcherbird> tck: been a while since i used kismet..hangon
[05:35] <pminetti> in suse i have dsl0, but here in ubunto only eth0
[05:35] <Mars__^> Ok i installed it so where it is?
[05:35] <pminetti> styxman: yes
[05:36] <StyXman> Mars__^: ah, that depends on what the installer did
[05:36] <StyXman> read the output
[05:36] <StyXman> pminetti: install pppoeconf and run it
[05:36] <StyXman> it'l ask everything from there
[05:36] <Goek> thanks
[05:36] <pminetti> StyXman: Ok
[05:36] <tck> butcherbird, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2715
[05:37] <ubiquitin> does anybody know when the qt3 multithreading libs might become available in breezy...
[05:37] <hubsi> how can i set the primary soundcard on ubuntu?
[05:37] <ubiquitin> there're loads of packages that are just impossible to install atm because of that single missing package
[05:38] <butcherbird> tck: can you paste config file too
[05:38] <tck> ok
[05:38] <shawnz> how can I go from lilo to grub in ubuntu?
[05:38] <Fleck> so why use Ubuntu and not Debian :) ?
[05:39] <shawnz> Fleck: they're different distrobutions, just because ubuntu is based on debian doesn't mean they can be compared
[05:39] <shawnz> but I personally really like ubuntu =p
[05:39] <bonvenon> can anyone tell me why my (synaptics) touchpad stops working if I change my usb mouse from using /dev/input/mice???
[05:39] <arcanistherogue> hey, how do you mount a windows formatted ipod?
[05:39] <arcanistherogue> so i can get it working with gtkpod
[05:39] <tck> butcherbird, in warty it took just one patch and was done, with hoary it was a nightmare to et it working
[05:39] <tck> hopefully breexy wont be as bad
[05:40] <arcanistherogue> yeah, i cant wait for the new ubuntu
[05:40] <StyXman> Fleck: why not?
[05:40] <arcanistherogue> got my cds preordered (b'_')b
[05:40] <ericz> how do you preorder them
[05:40] <arcanistherogue> just order them from shipit
[05:40] <Fleck> shawnz well i like new software, in unstable debian (sid) i can get them, but they don't whant to help me if i use sid..., i whant to use new KDE etc... how about ubuntu?
[05:40] <arcanistherogue> like the 5.04 discs
[05:40] <arcanistherogue> they ship a week after they come out
[05:40] <snorks> !.tgz
[05:40] <ubotu> snorks: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:40] <Fleck> ooh and - i like to compile kernel by my self!
[05:40] <snorks> !tgz
[05:40] <ubotu> snorks: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:41] <shawnz> Fleck: nothings stopping you from setting up any distrobution how you like
[05:41] <ericz> so anything ordered recently will be breezy?
[05:41] <ericz> or what?
[05:41] <Fleck> shawnz sure but that doesn't answer my question! :)
[05:41] <tck> butcherbird, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2716
[05:42] <Belutz> Fleck, use gentoo
[05:42] <Fleck> Belutz i hate to compile everything ...
[05:42] <Belutz> i see
[05:42] <grayman> you can use their binary packages
[05:43] <Mars__^> I am trying to install it but it shows info that i am not permited to put game in there. Normally i could use root but what now?
[05:43] <Mars__^> ?
[05:43] <Mars__^> ok
[05:43] <Mars__^> It works
[05:43] <grayman> sudo?
[05:43] <shawnz> O.o
[05:43] <mkyb14> questoin, if i do a dual boot with XP pro and put the MBR on the linux HD ..... if i unplug the hd will windows boot up?  i accidently put the MBR on the windows HD and none of the grub removal commands worked!
[05:43] <procrastinationn> were is native
[05:44] <StyXman> ok, bailing out
[05:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Mars__^ about root
[05:44] <butcherbird> tck: this a ethernet or wireless card?
[05:44] <shawnz> mkyb14, boot up to windows setup disk, go into recovery console, and do help
[05:44] <shawnz> i think the command is chkboot or something
[05:44] <mkyb14> questoin, if i do a dual boot with XP pro and put the MBR on the linux HD ..... if i unplug the hd will windows boot up?  i accidently put the MBR on the windows HD and none of the grub removal commands worked!
[05:44] <mkyb14> oh shit sorry
[05:44] <mkyb14> my window was at the top
[05:44] <shawnz> uh... and?
[05:45] <shawnz> just do what i said
[05:45] <shawnz> go into recovery console and run chkboot or whatever the command is. it installs the windows MBR
[05:45] <tck> butcherbird, pcmcia wireless card
[05:45] <mkyb14> yea i did all the fixboot and fixmbr commands and none worked
[05:45] <shawnz> O.o
[05:45] <butcherbird> tck: whats your wireless interface ath0?
[05:45] <mkyb14> so i wondered if installing grub on my second hd with linux would mess with the windows MBR
[05:45] <shawnz> unplug your linux drive and do them
[05:45] <tck> butcherbird, eth0
[05:46] <shawnz> tck: thats lan, not wireless, isnt it?
[05:46] <tck> thats the way it is picked up on mine
[05:46] <shawnz> and lol at ath0
[05:46] <butcherbird> shawnz: ;p
[05:46] <tck> the name can be anything regardless
[05:46] <tck> thats no the issue ;)
[05:46] <tck> s/no/not
[05:46] <procrastinationn> native
[05:46] <shawnz> /ctcp butcherbird ping +++ATH0 hax!
[05:47] <shawnz> but anyway
[05:47] <procrastinationn> why does my xbox not an ip
[05:47] <shawnz> why does this silly lynux thingy not want to go from lilo to grub?
[05:47] <shawnz> :p
[05:47] <DrZoot> does ubuntu/kubuntu support software suspend?
[05:48] <shawnz> DrZoot, its gnu/linux
[05:48] <shawnz> does gnu/linux support it? then ubuntu does.
[05:48] <DrZoot> shawnz: yeah, thanks for that ......
[05:48] <pulver> hi! anyone know how to send emoticons with amsn? possible? manually?
[05:48] <butcherbird> tck: not on breezy but kismet worked fine for me on hoary with orinoco silver card
[05:48] <shawnz> rofl
[05:49] <Toma-> pulver: yeh u can do it
[05:49] <DrZoot> so does anyone know if software suspend is included in the ubuntu kern
[05:49] <blargh> hi - anyone here had any experience installing Atheros drivers for a WLAN card?
[05:49] <tck> butcherbird, what steps did you take
[05:49] <shawnz> pulver: use gaim :p
[05:49] <ProN00b> is it normal that if i try to install a package it tries to remove ubuntu-base ?
[05:49] <Thor> lo all, can sum1 pls tell me y the GAIM messenger isnt workin anymore
[05:49] <pulver> Toma-: how?
[05:49] <ProN00b> and what is ubuntu-base ?
[05:49] <shawnz> ProN00b: its not normal but it happens. and ubuntu-base is the base ubuntu installation
[05:49] <butcherbird> pretty much just uncommented- commented out one or two things in the config
[05:50] <shawnz> last time i tried to reinstall alsautils it removed ubuntu-base, then my system didnt boot
[05:50] <shawnz> :(
[05:50] <snorks> What do I do with a .tgz file?
[05:50] <pulver> shawnz: lol yeah gaim is nice but file transfer is slow
[05:50] <ProN00b> cool
[05:50] <tck> butcherbird, mine looks good doesn't it
[05:50] <Thor> lo all, can sum1 pls tell me y the GAIM messenger isnt workin anymore
[05:50] <Vegar> snorks: delete it
[05:50] <tck> still need another patch i think
[05:50] <shawnz> snorks, ungzip it then untar it.
[05:50] <ProN00b> how do i install that package without removing ubuntu-base then ?
[05:50] <Vegar> snorks: use dpkg or apt to install programs
[05:50] <procrastinationn> lol duh just had to plug in the eithernet and reboot x
[05:50] <blargh> come on help a noob - someone's done it before
[05:50] <snorks> Vegar: funny.
[05:50] <shawnz> ProN00b: what package is it?
[05:50] <wilson22> hi, can someone tell me where to find the kernel .config for the kernel shipped with 5.04?
[05:51] <ProN00b> pftp, shawnz
[05:51] <snorks> shawnz: what's the ungzip flags_
[05:51] <shawnz> tar --help | grep gzip
[05:51] <aleitner> wilson22: do you have it installed?
[05:52] <Thor> lo all, can sum1 pls tell me y the GAIM messenger isnt workin anymore, is any using gaim @ the moment to talk to their msn m8s
[05:52] <butcherbird> tck: not on my ubuntu box right now or id take a look at it think i used a slighly different line for source
[05:52] <snorks> shawnz: tar -xzf cedega_4.4-1.i386.tgz for example?
[05:52] <shawnz> yes snorks.
[05:52] <wilson22> I have ubuntu 5.04 installed along with the sources
[05:52] <shawnz> z is gzip i assume?
[05:52] <blargh> Hey if I wanna know what kernel-headers are required...is this right?  "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep kernel-headers-uname -r"
[05:52] <wilson22> it's in boot eh?
[05:53] <Vegar> Thor: I think the MSN servers are having troubles.
[05:53] <aleitner> wilson22: look into /boot/
[05:53] <snorks> shawnz: yes
[05:53] <shawnz> then yes
[05:53] <snorks> shawnz: and after that I'm done, or?
[05:53] <butcherbird> tck: something like source=orinoco,interfacename,11
[05:53] <tck> ok
[05:53] <aleitner> wilson22: it is one of the config* files in there. to find out which one you are currently using run 'uname -a'
[05:53] <wilson22> aleitner: yeah I just found it :)
[05:53] <shawnz> snorks, then tar creates a cedega_4.4-1.i386 folder
[05:53] <wilson22> aleithner: thanks++
[05:53] <tck> that chanel you have at the end ?
[05:53] <aleitner> wilson22: np
[05:53] <Thor> Vegar: is ther another messenger client that i could use
[05:54] <snorks> shawnz: it just creaded a usr/ folder where i unpacked it
[05:54] <Vegar> Thor: No clients will work when the servers you connect to are down.
[05:54] <butcherbird> tck: i would think
[05:55] <cddesjar> how do i add Release.gpg keys in Ubuntu?
[05:55] <Thor> Vegar: but i switched OS and tried MSN messenger in windows and it worked, so that must mean servers aint down right
[05:55] <tck> nah don't think that's correct
[05:55] <ericz> msn isnt down
[05:55] <Vegar> Thor: try again with gaim
[05:55] <Vegar> I've been disconnected several times today
[05:55] <nalioth> msn has changed their access protocols...again
[05:55] <ericz> im using gaim [on ubuntu]  and ive been on msn for about an hour
[05:55] <Thor> Vegar:i have been trying since last night aint logging me in,
[05:55] <BERDUGO> hello
[05:56] <ProN00b> msn doesn't like gaim, install gaim from source
[05:56] <Thor> nalioth: i think ur right
[05:56] <Vegar> Thor: I just logged in with gaim.
[05:56] <BERDUGO> I was wondering if anyone can help me out
[05:56] <Plebeuz> nalioth,today?
[05:56] <cddesjar> i am trying to d/l w32codecs from a site but i need to get the release.gpg key
[05:56] <Plebeuz> nalioth, today?
[05:56] <fadumpt> hi, what's a good site find ubuntu breezy badger x64 repositories?
[05:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cddesjar about w32codecs
[05:56] <BERDUGO> Ive been trying to connect to the internet but I cant find where to put the username and password for the adsl connection
[05:56] <nalioth> Plebeuz: yes today
[05:57] <Plebeuz> suxk
[05:57] <Plebeuz> sukx
[05:57] <fadumpt> or can someone tell me a repository they use for breezy x64
[05:57] <nalioth> cddesjar: stop bothering that site and read the PM ubotu sent
[05:57] <Thor> Vegar: if i download gaim latest version from source, will u help me install it pls
[05:57] <cddesjar> !ubotu tell cddesjar about w32codecs
[05:57] <cddesjar> the ubotu didn't send me a message
[05:57] <nalioth> ubotu is down again, dammit
[05:57] <ubotu> nalioth: No idea
[05:57] <procrastinationn> native you here?
[05:57] <Vegar> Thor: installing from source will only break your distro
[05:57] <nalioth> !test
[05:57] <ubotu> Passed.
[05:58] <Vegar> Thor: it's bad
[05:58] <fadumpt> HI!
[05:58] <BinaryDigit> hi!
[05:58] <BERDUGO> hello
[05:58] <BinaryDigit> :)
[05:58] <BERDUGO> can anyone please help me out with configuring my ADSL connectin
[05:58] <cddesjar> !w32codecs
[05:58] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[05:58] <Plebeuz> Thor, download amsn
[05:58] <Thor> Vegar: ok, so is ther any other client i can try besides GAIM and Amsn
[05:58] <BERDUGO> i already tried sudo pppoeconf but nothing happened
[05:58] <Anak1n> srv>www>htdoc wher is it?
[05:58] <Sd3gn0> hi
[05:59] <Thor> Plebeuz: AMSN keeps crashing
[05:59] <Sd3gn0> i've a problem with my graphics card
[05:59] <Plebeuz> Thor, have u downloaded the tls?
[05:59] <grayman> welcome toi the club Sd3gn0
[05:59] <Sd3gn0> got this error when launch apps like blender
[05:59] <Sd3gn0> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[05:59] <Sd3gn0> thank you grayman :-)
[05:59] <Plebeuz> Thor, try to download latest version
[05:59] <blargh> anyone know about installing a WLAN card? Going to throw the damn thing out the window soon...
[05:59] <fadumpt> !ubotu tell fadumpt about repositories
[06:00] <BERDUGO> is your lancard liksys?
[06:00] <grayman> its not the graphic card
[06:00] <grayman> its glx
[06:00] <BERDUGO> is your lancard liksys?
[06:00] <blargh> Netgear
[06:00] <BERDUGO> hmmm
[06:00] <Sd3gn0> grayman,
[06:00] <Sd3gn0> what i've to do?!
[06:00] <fadumpt> thanks ubotu, you are the best!
[06:00] <r0d> is the amd64 chip considered k7?
[06:00] <fadumpt> k8 i think
[06:00] <blargh> Atheros chipset, madwifi drivers supposed to work using ndiswrapper
[06:00] <Plebeuz> blargh, u mean a lan over internet?
[06:00] <fadumpt> yeah K8
[06:00] <BERDUGO> it should be plug and play
[06:00] <r0d> thx
[06:00] <grayman> you need drivers with glx extention
[06:00] <fadumpt> K7 was all athlon XP stuff
[06:00] <grayman> what card you use?
[06:00] <fadumpt> and athlon
[06:00] <BERDUGO> I had problems with my linksys and thown it away
[06:00] <BERDUGO> cant find a driver anywhere
[06:00] <blargh> ehehe
[06:01] <Sd3gn0> grayman, i've got the drivers nvidia-glx
[06:01] <Sd3gn0> and i've the "glx" extension in
[06:01] <blargh> wireless lan card - it's a netgear W311t (atheros, not the TI)
[06:01] <Sd3gn0> xorg.conf
[06:01] <Thor> Plebeuz & Vegar: IT works now, dunno, how or y, been tryin since last night, but decided to work now
[06:01] <grayman> gmmmmm
[06:01] <grayman> hmmmm
[06:01] <r0d> in synaptic, there is k7-smp. whats that guys?
[06:01] <BERDUGO> blargh you know anything about how I can connect to my adls connection I already tried sudo pppoeconf but it doesnt work
[06:01] <dade`> my breezy does nott switch to console mode pressing ctrl+alt+F1, anyone knows why ?
[06:01] <Plebeuz> Thor, heheheh, maybe the server was down
[06:02] <Tomcat_> r0d: AMD multiprocessor kernel
[06:02] <blargh> BERDUGO: sorry man only been using Linux for a day - my router handles my adsl ;)
[06:02] <Thor> Plebeuz: very likely, or i made some n00b mistake soomwher
[06:02] <Thor> lol
[06:02] <r0d> i c. thx Tomcat
[06:02] <nalioth> r0d: it is for dual proc amd boxes (non 64-bit)
[06:02] <Plebeuz> heheheheh
[06:02] <BERDUGO> hehehe
[06:02] <BERDUGO> thanks
[06:02] <rockin_stan> ./nickserv register
[06:02] <BERDUGO> no prob blargh
[06:03] <tck> whats the comman to update orinoco with cvs
[06:03] <tck> any cvs peeps in here ?
[06:03] <BERDUGO> so any others here kind enough to lend us a helping hand?
[06:03] <Thor> Plebeuz & Vegar: thanks forr help ;)
[06:03] <grayman> Sd3gn0, tried to restart X after installing?
[06:03] <dade`> m
[06:03] <dade`> non
[06:03] <dade`> none
[06:03] <Plebeuz> :P kk
[06:04] <dade`> i try again
[06:04] <BERDUGO> anyone know anything about how I can connect to my adsl connection I already tried sudo pppoeconf but it doesnt work
[06:04] <Plebeuz> in slackware i know how to install the wireless card hehehe
[06:04] <Sd3gn0> grayman, yes sure
[06:04] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, i know
[06:04] <grayman> hmmm
[06:04] <BERDUGO> can you help me out Plebeuz
[06:04] <BERDUGO> please
[06:05] <BERDUGO> its already 12:05AM here and im running out of options
[06:05] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, vi /etc/networking/interfaces
[06:05] <BERDUGO> hehehe
[06:05] <BERDUGO> ok
[06:05] <grayman> hrm. i also had that glx voodoo when used nvidia
[06:05] <BERDUGO> so I have to edit the interfaces?
[06:05] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, then config the iface eth0
[06:05] <grayman> but i had xfree
[06:05] <BERDUGO> ok then?
[06:06] <Sd3gn0> mmm
[06:06] <blargh> Slackware eh...
[06:06] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, u trying to config ur lan to connect whith the adsl?
[06:06] <Plebeuz> eh
[06:06] <BERDUGO> nopr
[06:06] <BERDUGO> Im trying to get my connection up
[06:07] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, how u are connected hier?
[06:07] <BERDUGO> coz everytime i use sudo pppoeconf it doesnt ask me for the username or password
[06:07] <blargh> Damn I feel so stupid
[06:07] <BERDUGO> it just gives me an error
[06:07] <BERDUGO> im using a different PC
[06:07] <Plebeuz> ok do that
[06:07] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, u are using windows?
[06:08] <BERDUGO> now? unfortunately yes
[06:08] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, go in start, run then cmd
[06:08] <BERDUGO> ok
[06:08] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, inside cmd write ipconfig
[06:08] <BERDUGO> no wait I want to dial up using UBUNTU
[06:08] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, ooo kkk
[06:08] <BERDUGO> i had ubuntu installed on the other PC the one I just built
[06:09] <BERDUGO> sorry for the trouble
[06:09] <Sd3gn0> grayman, don't know?
[06:09] <shawnz> BERDUGO, what error did you get when running pppoeconf
[06:09] <BERDUGO> so what do you reckon?
[06:09] <grayman> cant remember how i fixed it. sorry
[06:09] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, do that, use ppp program in network
[06:09] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, aplications, network ppp
[06:09] <BERDUGO> how?
[06:09] <BERDUGO> ok wait let me check
[06:09] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, then config eth0 for dial
[06:10] <BERDUGO> ok how do I configure eth0 for dial?
[06:10] <grayman> you need to make xorg use only nvidia glx
[06:10] <Plebeuz> where u select the modem, u put the eth
[06:10] <Sd3gn0> grayman, no problem
[06:10] <Sd3gn0> :-)
[06:10] <Plebeuz> then just dial with the user and pass
[06:10] <Sd3gn0> thank you!
[06:10] <bam_> anyone know how to stop the drive icons from "poping" up on my desktop
[06:11] <Sd3gn0> anyone can help me about: "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[06:11] <BERDUGO> Plebeuz I tried clicking applications but there is nothing there that says network or ppp
[06:11] <blargh> BERDUGO: have you got pppoeconf enabled in Synaptics?
[06:12] <BERDUGO> yes I did
[06:12] <blargh> hm
[06:12] <BERDUGO> dpkg -l | grep -i pppoe
[06:12] <BERDUGO> sudo apt-get install pppoeconf
[06:12] <blargh> and it's installed?
[06:12] <shawnz> what error do you get when you run ppoeconf.
[06:13] <snorks> anyone using cedega here? I get CRAP performance, and I should probably edit some config file, but I don't know where that is
[06:13] <BERDUGO> error: SOrry I scanned one interface, but the access concentrator of your provider did not respond pls check your network and modem cables another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process
[06:13] <BERDUGO> which controls the modem
[06:14] <LaserLine> OT - Anyone here ever able to use blueetooth and a reguler printer, via a blutooth printing adapter such as EPoX ?
[06:14] <ericz> anyone ever use kannel?
[06:14] <Kyral> snorks, I use Point2Play in addition to Cedega
[06:15] <Stricklin> Any idea why my screen turns to graphics garbage after using the computer for a while?
[06:15] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, u can use the windows as ur gateway
[06:15] <CarlFK> what is the requirments for /pvt ?  still need to be registered?
[06:15] <snorks> Kyral: wanna send it over? :)
[06:16] <Kyral> Nope, you have to pay for Point2Play :P
[06:16] <BERDUGO> im using two different internet connections and Im trying to get ubuntu to run the other one
[06:16] <grayman> aaaaaah
[06:16] <Kyral> Meaning you need my username and pass :P
[06:16] <BERDUGO> you told me to set eth0 to dial how do I do that
[06:17] <Sd3gn0> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[06:17] <Sd3gn0> anyone can help me?
[06:17] <x_madbot> there is a slmodem driver for breezy ?
[06:18] <haller> does someone know how to get a pinnacle pctv 50i tv-card working? i think it has a  saa7133 chipset. i am using breezy, tried tvtime and zapping but get no picture.
[06:18] <signbarn> i just did a clean install of breezy (colony 5) on an old laptop i have, and it went great. after the updates, however, the trackpad movement is _way_ too accelerated. where is the config file for the mouse movement?
[06:18] <Secreth`X> u/msg ubotu split
[06:18] <signbarn> (the mouse settings from the system > preferences menu do nothing)
[06:18] <Secreth`X> darn
[06:19] <BERDUGO> ran out of ideas?
[06:19] <blargh> BERDUGO: http://www.debianhelp.org/index.php?module=pnForum&func=viewtopic&topic=9479&start=0
[06:19] <blargh> might help...I dunno
[06:19] <BERDUGO> thanks blargh
[06:19] <BERDUGO> thanks Plebeuz
[06:19] <shawnz> sigh
[06:19] <shawnz> BERDUGO, what error did you get when running pppoeconf!
[06:20] <blargh> he already posted it
[06:20] <shawnz> pft
[06:20] <shawnz> :(
[06:20] <BERDUGO> error: SOrry I scanned one interface, but the access concentrator of your provider did not respond pls check your network and modem cables another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process
[06:20] <BERDUGO> error: SOrry I scanned one interface, but the access concentrator of your provider did not respond pls check your network and modem cables another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process
[06:20] <BERDUGO> shawnz that is what I got
[06:20] <shawnz> then... do what blargh said
[06:20] <shawnz> =p
[06:20] <toni_> hello. i just installed the breezy preview release and it's working fine. i'm wondering if this can be upgraded to release version when it's out? or should i wait 2 weeks and do a fresh install?
[06:20] <blargh> ahaha
[06:20] <BERDUGO> ok h
[06:20] <BERDUGO> hehehehe
[06:20] <CarlFK> yipee!
[06:21] <blargh> now someone help me goddamn it
[06:21] <BERDUGO> is your problem thw wireless?
[06:21] <zth> hey, i've got some serious problems and i need help! i just upgraded to breezy from hoary using the sample sources.list file and dist-upgrade. Now I have some serious problems, X wont start! It complains about: Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found... PLEASE HELP ME!
[06:21] <blargh> yeah...just this line: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep kernel-headers-uname -r
[06:21] <BERDUGO> upto now I still couldnt get mine running I ended up throwing away my WUSB11
[06:21] <haller> toni_,  i think you can upgrade to the release version
[06:21] <Sd3gn0> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[06:22] <blargh> supposed to report back kernel-headers  or something
[06:22] <blargh> but it does nothing
[06:22] <HiddenFly> i have a fat drive that i can read but i cannot write to. how can i write on it? heres the line from fstab: /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010008.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010007.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010006.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010005.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010004.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010003.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010002.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010001.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> *it
[06:22] <HiddenFly> sry
[06:23] <HiddenFly> /dev/sda5 /media/10\040GB\040Disk\040(sda5) vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[06:23] <HiddenFly> thats is
[06:24] <SpudDogg> Seveas, do you know what I need to type in the terminal to see my computer's local IP?
[06:25] <Sd3gn0> anyone can help me about this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[06:25] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know what I need to type in the terminal to see my computer's local IP?
[06:25] <Myrtti> ifconfig
[06:25] <nightswim> ifconfig
[06:25] <nightswim> or
[06:25] <bzimage> ifconfig
[06:25] <nightswim> ip addr show dev eth0
[06:25] <SpudDogg> ahh thanks
[06:26] <clast> ifconfig ^^
[06:26] <offby3> hola -- can anyone here tell me how to change the priority of kernel module loading?
[06:26] <bzimage> and for windows.. ipconfig or winipcfg
[06:26] <bzimage> :P
[06:26] <Sd3gn0> anyone can help me about this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[06:26] <offby3> I'm loading the wrong version of the fglrx.ko (from video) where the one I want is in char/drm
[06:26] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, well edit your xorg.conf accordingly
[06:27] <bzimage> hash the glx module
[06:27] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, yes
[06:27] <bzimage> or install the proper video drivers
[06:27] <Sd3gn0> my xorg.conf
[06:27] <Sd3gn0> have the right glx
[06:27] <offby3> (for the record, this in on Hoary)
[06:27] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, wich video card
[06:27] <bzimage> ?
[06:28] <Sd3gn0> and (think) i've installed the proper
[06:28] <bzimage> (ati? nvidia?)
[06:28] <Sd3gn0> driver
[06:28] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, nvidia 5200
[06:28] <Sd3gn0> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:28] <Sd3gn0> right?
[06:28] <zth> hey, i've got some serious problems and i need help! i just upgraded to breezy from hoary using the sample sources.list file and dist-upgrade. Now I have some serious problems, X wont start! It complains about: Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found... PLEASE HELP ME! No one?!
[06:28] <bzimage> ehm..
[06:28] <bzimage> right
[06:28] <bzimage> but you also need the driver itself
[06:28] <bzimage> :)
[06:29] <Sd3gn0> ???
[06:29] <Sd3gn0> like?
[06:29] <blargh> www.nvidia.com
[06:29] <bzimage> !nvidia
[06:29] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:29] <bzimage> there
[06:29] <offby3> bzimage, you seem to know your stuff -- can you lend me a hand?
[06:30] <Plebeuz> hello
[06:30] <bzimage> well... ask away
[06:30] <bzimage> :)
[06:30] <Sd3gn0> guys
[06:30] <Sd3gn0> i've installed the driver
[06:30] <bzimage> maybe i or someone can help you
[06:30] <Sd3gn0> http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[06:30] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, did you looked at the xorg log?
[06:30] <offby3> See above: Right now, my ATI kernel module is installed in char/drm, but the old (8.8.5) module is in video
[06:30] <bzimage> about what's wrong?
[06:31] <offby3> The latter gets loaded when fglrx is specified in /etc/modules
[06:31] <offby3> how can I force the correct one to load?
[06:31] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, i see
[06:31] <Sd3gn0> :-)
[06:32] <Plebeuz> anyone know how i can configure the x server to accept login as root? see that for log as root i neet to remove the .X0tmp (or something, log in console then startx, cause the xserver who starts when boot ubuntu does not accept root login
[06:32] <Sd3gn0> perhaps
[06:32] <bzimage> offby3, ehm.. i'm not using ati
[06:32] <bzimage> so no idea
[06:32] <bzimage> :(
[06:32] <Sd3gn0> i've made all the same things
[06:32] <Sd3gn0> in
[06:32] <offby3> I don't think this is ATI-specific
[06:32] <Sd3gn0> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:32] <Plebeuz> anyone know how i can configure the x server to accept login as root? see that for log as root i need to remove the .X0tmp (or something) log in console then startx, cause the xserver who starts when boot ubuntu does not accept root login
[06:32] <offby3> I believe it's just a modprobe/modules issue, I just don't know how to set the load order
[06:33] <offby3> Plebeuz, it's generally considered rude to repeat long questions.  Oh, and no, I don't -- sorry.
[06:33] <butcherbird> Plebeuz: gdmconfig
[06:33] <Plebeuz> i have writed wrong
[06:33] <bzimage> Plebeuz, use the gdm configuration tool
[06:33] <butcherbird> Plebeuz: sorry didnt read all the question nm
[06:33] <Plebeuz> tkz
[06:34] <blargh> noone's used ndiswrapper here??
[06:34] <bzimage> Plebeuz, but why do you want to enable this?
[06:34] <kennethlove> here's a strange question. in hoary's gnome, there was a setting to make windows snap to screen/window edges. i can't find it in breezy's. any idea?
[06:34] <Plebeuz> bzimage, cause i use linux with root always
[06:35] <Plebeuz> bzimage, i am logged as root now for example
[06:35] <bzimage> Plebeuz, hmm.. ok... (not wise)
[06:35] <BERDUGO> Thanks for the help guys (even if i didnt get my connection running) I need to sleep best regards to all of you
[06:35] <BERDUGO> Thanks for the help guys (even if i didnt get my connection running) I need to sleep best regards to all of you
[06:35] <BERDUGO> Thanks for the help guys (even if i didnt get my connection running) I need to sleep best regards to all of you
[06:35] <afd_> hi! Anybody has experience with xcompmgr? When I maximize a window it covers the top and bottom panels. Any solutions?
[06:36] <Plebeuz> bzimage, i like the adrenaline like for a mistake i execute rm -rf /
[06:36] <bzimage> Plebeuz, i only go root if needed...
[06:36] <Plebeuz> bzimage, heheheh
[06:36] <bzimage> Plebeuz, ok.. :)
[06:36] <bzimage> i used to do that too
[06:36] <Plebeuz> bzimage, i like to cause and solve troubles on linux
[06:36] <bzimage> trail and error things.. (as root)
[06:36] <Myrtti> wtf, always as ROOT? that's insane
[06:36] <afd_> PlanarPlatypus, sudo bash :)
[06:36] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, i've find the error
[06:36] <Sd3gn0> can i paste here?!?!
[06:37] <Myrtti> nope
[06:37] <bzimage> no
[06:37] <bzimage> just explain
[06:37] <Myrtti> !pastebin
[06:37] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:37] <bzimage> :)
[06:37] <bzimage> or indeed pastebin
[06:37] <bzimage> :)
[06:37] <blargh> ok fixed my problem...there's a space in the command I didn't see....dammit
[06:37] <blargh> cya
[06:38] <Plebeuz> i will be back
[06:39] <Plebeuz> quit i will be back
[06:39] <Sd3gn0> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2717
[06:40] <Sd3gn0> that is the error i've in xorg.0.log
[06:40] <bzimage> ok..
[06:40] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, try sudo modprobe nvidia
[06:40] <bzimage> and then reload your desktop
[06:40] <Sd3gn0> ok 1 sec
[06:41] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, but i'm downloading
[06:41] <bzimage> ooh
[06:41] <bzimage> ok
[06:41] <Sd3gn0> can't reboot now
[06:41] <bzimage> i'm not talking about reboot
[06:41] <Sd3gn0> ctrl-alt-backspae?
[06:41] <Sd3gn0> *backspace
[06:41] <Sd3gn0> reboot X?
[06:41] <afd_> ubuntu breeze doesn't show the icons in the pager. What can I do?
[06:41] <bzimage> i'm talking about reload your X
[06:41] <Sd3gn0> ok
[06:41] <bzimage> (but if your downloading.. let it finish)
[06:42] <bzimage> ;)
[06:42] <Sd3gn0> mmm let me think
[06:42] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, if i've already done modprobe nvidia???
[06:42] <bzimage> ?
[06:42] <_native_> kc
[06:43] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, also check that /etc/modules has nvidia in it..
[06:43] <Stricklin> I entered 'sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop' and got the following: '(gedit:7687): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.' Is this going to be a problem?
[06:43] <bzimage> so it will load the nvidia module on startup
[06:43] <bzimage> (not by default)
[06:43] <Plebeuz> hey people i trying to run a script in boot, i created them, then i puted on /etc/int.d/ thein i ln -s on /etc/rc5.d , but the script dont booted
[06:43] <Sd3gn0> yes
[06:43] <Sd3gn0> but
[06:43] <Sd3gn0> i've tried to start blender
[06:43] <spiral> hi
[06:44] <Sd3gn0> now
[06:44] <Sd3gn0> after
[06:44] <Sd3gn0> modprobe nvidia
[06:44] <Sd3gn0> but nothing
[06:44] <bzimage> after the modprobe.. you need to restart x
[06:44] <theine> Plebeuz, how did you link the script?
[06:44] <bzimage> quit your session (gnome, kde or whatever you use)
[06:44] <bzimage> then relogin
[06:44] <Sd3gn0> ok
[06:44] <Plebeuz> S99test -> /etc/init.d/test
[06:45] <tck> emm i cant find the latest kernel source with synaptic
[06:45] <Plebeuz> theine, 0 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   17 2005-10-02 00:48 S99test -> /etc/init.d/test
[06:45] <theine> Plebeuz, that should be ok
[06:45] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, don't have /etc/modules...
[06:45] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, ?
[06:45] <tck> uname -r = 2.6.12-9-386
[06:45] <bzimage> ofcourse youdo
[06:45] <tck> and it only goes up to 2.6.11 in synaptic
[06:45] <FrdPrefct> Plebeuz: Try /etc/rc2.d
[06:45] <theine> Plebeuz, could be that runlevel 5 is not the default runlevel
[06:46] <FrdPrefct> # The default runlevel.
[06:46] <FrdPrefct> didymo:
[06:46] <theine> Plebeuz, have a look at /etc/inittab
[06:46] <FrdPrefct> didymo:
[06:46] <FrdPrefct> how odd
[06:46] <Plebeuz> id:2:initdefault:
[06:46] <Plebeuz> ok
[06:46] <FrdPrefct> .id:2:initdefault:
[06:46] <Plebeuz> u right
[06:46] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, (you need to sudo that file.. otherwise no access)
[06:46] <Plebeuz> tkz
[06:47] <tck> how do i install the kernel source in breexy ?
[06:47] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, if you know vi(m) try: sudo vi /etc/modules
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, es
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> yes i've find it
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> sorry
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> ;-)
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> and I've the nvidia
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> ther
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> e
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> ok
[06:48] <Plebeuz> hey why ubuntu starts in runlevel 2 in default?
[06:49] <t4k3r0n_> a
[06:49] <bzimage> Plebeuz, because they set it that way :P
[06:49] <Kirsch> dare I ask how ATI Mobility support is in Breezy?
[06:49] <mr_roboto> http://www.phildev.net/runlevels.html
[06:49] <mr_roboto> handy reference
[06:50] <tck> im running 2.6.12-9-386, but when i try apt-get install kernel-source
[06:50] <bzimage> mr_roboto, depends on distro.. wich runlevel is what
[06:50] <bzimage> :P
[06:50] <tck> my kernel version aint there, any ideas ?
[06:50] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, i've loaded nvidia
[06:50] <Sd3gn0> now i've to restart X?
[06:50] <bzimage> yes
[06:50] <Plebeuz> bzimage,  what the purpose of that?
[06:50] <Sd3gn0> ok i try
[06:50] <Kirsch> bzimage: do u know anyting about Mobility support in Breezy?
[06:50] <mr_roboto> bzimage: that's what that web page says
[06:51] <bzimage> Kirsch, no sorry
[06:51] <Sd3gn0> reboot
[06:51] <bzimage> <-- no ati user (or experience)
[06:51] <n00bster> hi all, is there an  xface Download Accelerator Manager in ubuntu Like FlashGet in win ?
[06:51] <Kirsch> ok
[06:51] <mr_roboto> Kirsch: were you using it in hoary?
[06:51] <Kirsch> Yea
[06:51] <Kirsch> i think so
[06:52] <Kirsch> i don't remember if i reset it up tho since i did it
[06:52] <Kirsch> its possible i didn't
[06:52] <mr_roboto> Kirsch: reason I ask is I use it to and upgrading to Breezy even as I type on my laptop
[06:52] <mr_roboto> hope it works!
[06:52] <Kirsch> oh, u haven't done it yet
[06:52] <Kirsch> let me know
[06:52] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, that tutorial is wrong..
[06:52] <Kirsch> PM me
[06:52] <mr_roboto> doing it right now
[06:52] <Kirsch> ok
[06:52] <Kirsch> do u want to make a package if it works? ;-)
[06:52] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: wrong in the sense that graphics are enabled in lower levels on various linuxes, yes :)
[06:53] <brosio> i've install mysql-server it is running, but the port of server isn't open! what could be ?
[06:53] <mr_roboto> Kirsch: if I knew how, I might!   :)
[06:53] <aeho> have anyone got nvidian 3d acceleration working in breezy badger?
[06:53] <graig> hello, does anyone know why my system clock randomly and incorrectly advances an hour every once in a while?
[06:53] <Kirsch> graig: bad battery?
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, i've restarted
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> but nothing
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> i've the module loade
[06:54] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, runlevel 1 is single user, runlevel 2 is multiuser, runlevel 3 is text, runlevel 4 grphic and text(normaly start in text), runlevel 5 graphic(start in graphic, runlevel 6 reboot...
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> d
[06:54] <mr_roboto> Kirsch: probably won't find out until later this afternoon though. need to leave soon and it's still downloading massive amounts of stuff!
[06:54] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, are you sure?
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> yes
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> lsmod | grep nvidia
[06:54] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, i am wrong?
[06:54] <bzimage> ok...
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> nvidia               4569532  8
[06:54] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: yes, wrong :)
[06:54] <Kirsch> yea i bet it could take some time, it only took me like 10min to download all the packages (i'm on an EDU)
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> think that's right
[06:54] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, ....
[06:55] <bzimage> hmm
[06:55] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: there are no hard rules on what a unix system has to do on the various run levels, they usually agree on 1 and 6 though
[06:55] <Stricklin> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display.
[06:55] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: i think 2-5 are identical in ubuntu
[06:55] <mr_roboto> could be wrong
[06:55] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, i think u are thinking in debian, and i am thinking on general linux based distributions
[06:55] <Kirsch> i still don't understand what the reason was for the removal of terminal on the right click? (i'm very happy there was a fix tho)
[06:55] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, yes
[06:55] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: oh well yes, all linuxes are definitely not the same
[06:56] <mr_roboto> i should say, all distributions
[06:56] <efbie> Hello everyone ! I have a friend that uses ubuntu and he has two soundcards, but ubuntu uses only the onboard wich is crappy. Only xine use the second, do you have any tips how to enable the second soundcard by default ?
[06:56] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, but normally is like i writed, fedora core, slackware, conectiva etc...
[06:56] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: you can do whatever you want if you play with the scripts :)
[06:56] <Kirsch> efbie: it might be easier to just disable the onboard soundcard
[06:56] <Plebeuz> yes
[06:57] <efbie> Kirsch, in the bios ?
[06:57] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: I think Suse is also as you said, if I remember
[06:57] <Kirsch> yea
[06:57] <efbie> ok, will try
[06:57] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, so, there is no rulez like cvs distributions for init levels?
[06:57] <zth> how do i set my local variable to use gcc-3.4 instead of 4.0?
[06:57] <Kirsch> i think u just need to change the symbolic link?
[06:58] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: not sure what you mean. there is no "standard" across all Unixes, or even across Linux distributions.  (don't get the cvs refernce)
[06:58] <Stricklin> How do I exit X?
[06:58] <Kirsch> ALT-CTRL-BACKSPACE
[06:59] <ProN00b> lol
[07:00] <mr_roboto> Can someone tell me what a colony is?  (Colony 5 is out)
[07:00] <graig> does anyone know why my system clock randomly looses an hour of time?  i don't think it's the battery, because when i turn it off it doesn't loose the time.
[07:01] <Sd3gn0> anyone can help me about this error:???
[07:01] <Sd3gn0> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2717
[07:01] <ccooke> graig: did you reboot into windows?
[07:01] <afd_> graig, maybe you have ntp update turned one
[07:02] <Kirsch> to the wrong timezone?
[07:02] <ccooke> It's a common thing with linux and windows interacting.
[07:02] <graig> but i don't have windows.
[07:02] <d33p> what's the url of the hoary backports? http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ doesn't work
[07:02] <_native_> anyone have wpa working under breezy?
[07:02] <Kirsch> oohoohh, DENIED haha
[07:03] <graig> just linux, and it happens with ntp enabled, and disabled.
[07:03] <ccooke> graig: that's very interesting.
[07:03] <graig> i thought ntp autoupdate was doing it, so i turned it off.
[07:03] <Patke> i've got a question: can Ubuntu be upgraded to a new version without the internet - with a CD of a new version?
[07:03] <ccooke> Patke: yes
[07:03] <Kirsch> Patke: yes
[07:03] <graig> and every once in a while when its 12 pm, my computer will say 1pm.
[07:03] <graig> like it added another hour.
[07:03] <Kirsch> :-\
[07:03] <ccooke> graig: it's always one hour?
[07:03] <graig> yes.
[07:03] <jdub> GOOD MORNING FREEDOM LOVERS!
[07:04] <graig> its always one hour.
[07:04] <ccooke> graig: is it always *adding* an hout, never removing it?
[07:04] <graig> i think so.
[07:04] <ccooke> (to the correct time)
[07:04] <mr_roboto> Can someone help me?  I'm trying to upgrade Ubuntu Hoary to Windows 95 SE   any advice?
[07:04] <ccooke> right. It's probably a timezone thing.
[07:04] <Kirsch> so its never more than 1hr off?
[07:04] <graig> no, it adds an hour to the incorrect time.
[07:04] <graig> yeah.
[07:04] <ccooke> wait.
[07:04] <ccooke> Summer time.
[07:04] <Kirsch> is it alwyas 1hr or 0? like can it be 28min off?
[07:04] <css> hello
[07:04] <graig> i think its exactly one hour.
[07:04] <butcherbird> mr_roboto: you consider that an upgrade ? =)
[07:04] <Kirsch> are you in the correct timezone?
[07:04] <graig> but i have the correct timezone selected.
[07:05] <ccooke> graig: new install? old install? Breezy?
[07:05] <d33p> what's the url of the hoary backports? http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ doesn't work
[07:05] <css> how old is everyone
[07:05] <jdub> everyone here seen http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ ? not officially announced yet, you guys get a preview :-)
[07:05] <Kirsch> d33p: works for me
[07:05] <jdub> d33p: they're now on archive.ubuntu.com
[07:05] <Patke> so if I have 5.04 installed and get 5.10 (when it gets out) on a cd I can just upgrade it without downloading anything?
[07:05] <kennethlove> old enough to not ask a/s/l in a tech channel.
[07:05] <mr_roboto> butcherbird: sorry :)    stupid joke      just waiting on breezy to d/l on laptop
[07:05] <Plebeuz> hey biology people take a look at http://linuxfocus.org/English/August2005/article388.shtml
[07:05] <graig> chicago is central time right?
[07:05] <mr_roboto> graig: yes
[07:05] <jdub> Patke: if you haven't installed any extra packages, yes
[07:05] <butcherbird> heh
[07:05] <jdub> Patke: but if you've installed other stuff from main or universe, you
[07:05] <d33p> looking for the sun-j2re package
[07:05] <Patke> jdub: what do you mean by extra packages?
[07:06] <jdub> Patke: but if you've installed other stuff from main or universe, you'll have to download those in the process
[07:06] <jdub> Patke: if you've installed anything via apt, synaptic or gnome-app-installl
[07:06] <jdub> Patke: there's a huge amount of stuff in our repos not included on the CD :-)
[07:06] <graig> could it be a bios setting?
[07:07] <ccooke> css: Well, there's what? about 6 billion people in the world. Average age would be somewhere around twentyish... so, in total, something around a hundred and twenty billion. That help?
[07:07] <Patke> jdub: so I just need to reinstall the apps but my documents stay unchanged?
[07:07] <d33p> what should I include in /etc/apt/sources.list to have backports in hoary?
[07:07] <jdub> graig: try restarting ntpdate to get the system running at the right time, and run hwclock --systohc
[07:07] <css> HELLO
[07:08] <css> HOW OLD IS EVERYONE?
[07:08] <jdub> Patke: ah, hmm.
[07:08] <css> sorry
[07:08] <jdub> Patke: you've done a default install -> have you added any applications with synaptic?
[07:08] <Patke> jdub: some
[07:08] <css> whats the age range
[07:08] <css> ??
[07:08] <mr_roboto> wtf? did i enter an aol chat room?
[07:08] <css> AAAHHHHHHHHHHH
[07:08] <Fleck> shawnz what's difference between deb and ubuntu ?
[07:09] <jdub> Patke: ok, so when you upgrade, it's fairly likely that you'll hit the network to download new versions of those
[07:09] <jdub> Fleck: there's a faq on www.ubuntu.com with details about that
[07:09] <synic> anyone have a creative mp3 player?  gnomad2 seems to have stopped working in breezy
[07:09] <Fleck> ok
[07:09] <Patke> jdub: no problem, but my documents (text,music,videos...) don't get erased?
[07:09] <css> hOW DO YOU CHANGE COLOUR
[07:09] <css> ?
[07:09] <jdub> Patke: not at all
[07:09] <SanderD> Hi. I've just messed up the MBR I think (using fixboot in Windows), so Grub can't boot. Can I fix this from a LiveCD?
[07:09] <Kirsch> SanderD: i think so
[07:09] <Patke> jdub: thx, that's all I needed to know.
[07:10] <ccooke> css: Please don't shout. Change the colour of what?
[07:10] <Kirsch> you can mount your old system and reinstall grub
[07:10] <SanderD> Kirsch: With grub-install?
[07:10] <css> My font.
[07:10] <Kirsch> I think so.
[07:10] <Kirsch> css: in IRC?
[07:10] <css> I was stuck on cap locks.
[07:10] <graig> shawnz ubuntu comes on 1 cd, debian has 1-5 cd's.   ubuntu is supposed to be easier, and has a better default desktop/selection of programs for people just starting out with linux.
[07:11] <fbn> what package is sound-preferences for a bugreport?
[07:11] <shawnz> uh, why are you telling me graig
[07:11] <shawnz> Fleck asked
[07:11] <jdub> fbn: control-center
[07:11] <obsvuugj> does enemy territory work on ubuntu amd64?
[07:11] <fbn> jdub, thanks
[07:11] <Fleck> hehe :))
[07:11] <graig> ahhh hehe :)
[07:12] <css> How old is evry1
[07:12] <mjr> (to breezy)
[07:12] <css> ?
[07:12] <graig> 27
[07:12] <mr_roboto> Kirsch: can you do something like "dpkg-reconfigure grub" in that case?
[07:12] <css> how old r you ccokie
[07:12] <jatos> hi
[07:12] <css> Hello??
[07:13] <Kirsch> mr_roboto: i don't know, if he changes is sysroot to /mnt/sysimage he probably can
[07:13] <mr_roboto> still getting  a handle on debian, seems like the way to fix broken configs in general is dpkg-reconfigure
[07:13] <Kirsch> i avoid doing that unless i really NEED to... its just reinstall grub, i'd do that if just doing grub-install doesn't work
[07:13] <jatos> how would I tell ubuntu to use a french keyboard layout?
[07:13] <ccooke> !tell css about offtopic
[07:14] <Kirsch> jatos: when you first boot, it will ask u for a type of keyboard.
[07:14] <Kirsch> jatos: installing it rather,
[07:14] <vladuz976> what do i need to install to get the full kde desktop?
[07:14] <clast> jatos, system>preferences>keyboard>layouts
[07:14] <jdub> vladuz976: kubuntu-desktop
[07:14] <Kirsch> vladuz976: u may want to use kubuntu
[07:14] <vladuz976> is there a bundle ?
[07:14] <Kirsch> or that
[07:14] <vladuz976> Kirsch: already have ubuntu installed
[07:14] <Kirsch> ah ok
[07:14] <jatos> clast, in kde or gnome?
[07:15] <css> What about offtopic
[07:15] <clast> jatos, gnome
[07:15] <jatos> right
[07:15] <jatos> thanks brb
[07:15] <Kirsch> css: join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to engage in questions not related to support
[07:15] <d33p> don't find any working source for backports, anybody has any working urls?
[07:15] <SanderD> Kirsch: I'm getting this error when doing "grub-install /dev/sda" now: "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[07:15] <jdub> d33p: the backports are now hosted on archive.ubuntu.com
[07:15] <Kirsch> you know what was interesting about this problem
[07:16] <Kirsch> my roommate had the same issue, and he went about trying to just reinstall ubuntu
[07:16] <clast> d33p, deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:16] <Kirsch> but hoping that it wouldn't reinstall any packages since it was still there but hoping grub would install
[07:16] <SanderD> Kirsch: I'm getting this error now: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[07:16] <Kirsch> ubuntu specifically said that there's nothing to do, so i'm not even going to bother installing grub again
[07:16] <vladuz976> Kirsch: only differnce is kde and gnome, right?
[07:16] <Kirsch> when that was the only tthing that we were trying to do.
[07:16] <SanderD> Sorry, something wrong with my irssi
[07:16] <Kirsch> SanderD: are you on the live CD?
[07:16] <Kirsch> vladuz976: i think so.
[07:16] <fbn> is it possible to change severity in Launchpad as bug reporter?
[07:16] <clast> lol?
[07:17] <SanderD> Kirsch: yes.
[07:17] <Kirsch> vladuz976: kwrite (or kate, i don't use kubuntu) as apposed to gedit
[07:17] <jdub> vladuz976: the kubuntu-desktop metapackage is what kubuntu installs instead of ubuntu-desktop
[07:17] <Kirsch> SanderD: do the chroot command to mkae ur root /mnt/sysimage
[07:17] <Kirsch> then u can try to dothe dpkg-reconfigure grub
[07:17] <jdub> vladuz976: but both metapackages (and everything they depend on) co-exist
[07:17] <vladuz976> jdub: yeah i just read about it. thanks.
[07:18] <clast> d33p, btw how are your graphics card drivers doing?
[07:18] <vladuz976> jdub: so now i am gonna have kubuntu and ubuntu :)
[07:18] <SanderD> Kirsch: How do I do that? The partition is at /dev/sda1 and mounted on /media/root.
[07:18] <Kirsch> i think its
[07:18] <Kirsch> chroot /media/root
[07:19] <Kirsch> i g/g for a bit, i'l be back in about 10min
[07:19] <SanderD> Kirsch, okay, thanks for your help.
[07:19] <jatos> bacl
[07:19] <damo21> i dont understand why anyone would use windows ever again
[07:19] <damo21> :D
[07:20] <znh> damo21, people that aren't aware of the uglyness of bill gates
[07:20] <jatos> well it seems to have changed the settings in gnome but I have just gone back to KDE and its still eng kb layout
[07:20] <r0d> znh most people just dont care.
[07:21] <damo21> its not the uglyness of bill gates... its the uglyness of the OS he stole
[07:21] <jatos> will it loads the FR kb layout when I logout of KDE and log back in?
[07:21] <clast> jatos: well you do have to change it in kde too, gnome and kde are seperat things
[07:21] <clast> jatos, there should be a similar option in kde
[07:21] <bonee> fluxbox
[07:21] <jatos> I found it in KDE but it doesn't work
[07:21] <r0d> damo21, he bought it for 50g's brotha
[07:21] <jatos> though gnome did complain that it coudln't uninstall GB settings
[07:22] <clast> jatos, hmmm....weird
[07:22] <damo21> yeah, like i said... nothing
[07:22] <vladuz976> anyone know how you can switch between kdm and gdm?
[07:22] <r0d> stole != bought. but i get your point
[07:22] <jatos> change the symlinks vladuz976
[07:22] <mr_roboto> damo21: games are one reason ;)
[07:22] <vladuz976> jatos: which ones?
[07:22] <jatos> providing you got the one you want installed
[07:22] <damo21> yes games are the only reason
[07:22] <mjr> vladuz976, dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or kdm), I think
[07:22] <mjr> vladuz976, oh, with sudo
[07:23] <tobi-wan> hi folks
[07:23] <vladuz976> mjr: thanks
[07:23] <jatos> one symlink wil lsay kdm the other gdm, move the one that starts the display manager your don't want vladuz976
[07:24] <damo21> Does anyone know if Japanese is fully supported in openoffice
[07:24] <damo21> like, to type the full character list by merging shorter characters
[07:25] <damo21> actually, i mean supported by gnome
[07:25] <r0d> anyone here convert to opera since the new "ad-free" version????
[07:26] <damo21> whats so good about opera?
[07:26] <r0d> nothing from what i can tell. purrty interface. thats about it
[07:26] <damo21> actually, there is a site i cant access with firefox, even though i have the plugins
[07:27] <D1> ELEVEN MORE DAYS!!!!
[07:27] <r0d> they have somewhat of a search engine inbedded, but nothing like firefox. just would like to know if anyone here thinks its better
[07:27] <Kirsch> r0d: i got one, i got it when they gave free keys
[07:27] <funkyHat> linuxdojo
[07:27] <damo21> i like firefox
[07:27] <funkyHat> doh
[07:27] <bob2> r0d: why don't you just give it a go? ;)
[07:27] <Kirsch> i do like it, but there are things about FF that I got used to, if i had gone from IE to something else again, i'd probab ly be on opera.
[07:27] <shinu> why does my externad hard drive show up as hdb and not hda?
[07:27] <D1> because your primary hd is hda probably.
[07:27] <shinu> there isnt any other device that is taking up the 'hda'
[07:28] <shinu> oh
[07:28] <shinu> sorry
[07:28] <damo21> external drive??
[07:28] <damo21> how did u boot then?
[07:28] <shinu> sdb instead or sda is what i meant
[07:28] <r0d> bob2,  lol played w/ it.
[07:28] <r0d> bob2,  can i guess to say your a user?
[07:28] <bob2> r0d: no
[07:28] <r0d> bob2, phew
[07:29] <r0d> <---open source all the way
[07:29] <damo21> i think linux is in danger of being too divergent with all its packages
[07:29] <r0d> distros or software?
[07:29] <shinu> D1, damo21: sorry, i meant that it shows up as sdb instead or sda
[07:30] <jatos> damo21, I agree with you to an extent
[07:30] <damo21> like, it takes too much effort to maintain one particular distro
[07:30] <damo21> im all for open source
[07:30] <bob2> damo21: this sounds uninformed and off-topic; please take it elsewhere
[07:30] <damo21> but ubuntu is probably the best ive seen
[07:31] <r0d> ahh good comeback, lol
[07:31] <foampeice> why does my xmms crash on the initializing of the alarm module
[07:31] <damo21> :D
[07:31] <r0d> yea ubuntu and gentoo are my homeboys
[07:31] <r0d> thinking of getting a shirt made...
[07:31] <damo21> uninformed? ive played with almost all distros
[07:32] <apokryphos> damo21: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:32] <damo21> ok lol
[07:32] <Stricklin> http://charlesstricklin.com/2005/10/02/ubuntu/
[07:32] <r0d> your gonna have to sit in the corner pretty soon damo21
[07:32] <r0d> :D
[07:32] <sylvan> Help! Ubuntu messed up the boot options (after the latest upgrade via synaptic) when I restart! I vaguely recall a nice graphical program where you could modify the order and such of the boot options in GRUB, but I can't find it! Anyone know?
[07:33] <yarddog> why does the channel display #ubuntu-unregged ?
[07:33] <r0d> how easy is the transition to the ole badger?
[07:33] <r0d> been scared to do it
[07:33] <jatos> yarddog, bcause you not a registered freenode user
[07:34] <apokryphos> r0d: it only requires altering one file, and then running one command, so in that sense it's trivial. Whether you have problems is another issue, but it should in theory be reasonably stable now.
[07:34] <yarddog> uhm
[07:34] <damo21> i just formatted my ntfs partition and started from scratch
[07:34] <damo21> :D
[07:34] <yarddog> [yarddog]  is identified to services
[07:34] <yarddog> excuse me?
[07:34] <r0d> apokryphos,  that sounds like a green light to me
[07:34] <apokryphos> yarddog: you're in #ubuntu not #ubuntu-unregged
[07:34] <foampeice> how would i use deborphan in combination with apt-get remove
[07:34] <jatos> you need to register (reserve) you nickname then log in
[07:35] <yarddog> apokryphos, ok, it says #ubuntu-unregged, just an fyi
[07:35] <sylvan> anyone? How do I modify the entries in the boot-menu? The latest update removed windows from it among other minor inconveniences!
[07:35] <apokryphos> r0d: it still hasn't technically reached stable status, but quite a few in here have been using it for several weeks. Your decision, of course; ubuntu does support a stable -> stable dist-upgrade
[07:35] <BlankB> Is there a place that has a package list with version #'s for breezy?
[07:35] <apokryphos> BlankB: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <jatos> yarddog, type /msg nickserv register yarddog
[07:35] <el_toro> sylvan, you have to put your custom entries outside the part that gets re-generated on every grub update
[07:35] <n00bster> is there an  xface Download Accelerator Manager in ubuntu ?
[07:35] <yarddog> breezy works well for me, the 5.04 froze
[07:36] <apokryphos> BlankB: or, in here, /msg ubotu info somepackage breezy
[07:36] <funkyHat> has anyone else had problems running beagle?
[07:36] <yarddog> jatos, you're wrong
[07:36] <yarddog> jatos, whois me
[07:36] <sylvan> el_toro, what do you mean?
[07:36] <damo21> when does breezy official come out?
[07:36] <kemik> 13th
[07:36] <apokryphos> damo21: /topic
[07:36] <funkyHat> 13th
[07:36] <el_toro> sylvan, you have to edit your menu.lst file
[07:36] <sylvan> There was a graphical program where I could modify this (I think it was in preferences) but it's gone now
[07:36] <BlankB> apokryphos: thanks that is exactly what I wanted.
[07:36] <sylvan> where is that?
[07:36] <jatos> ok yarddog , apologies
[07:37] <el_toro> boot/grub
[07:37] <yarddog> np
[07:37] <damo21> what apokryphos?
[07:37] <apokryphos> damo21: /topic = check the channel topic
[07:37] <damo21> lol oh yes
[07:37] <sylvan> there's no program to help me do this? I could've swore I've seen one before that worked well when it came to changing priorities at least
[07:37] <r0d> I still hoping they released some certifications for ubuntu.
[07:37] <obsvuugj> does Enemy Territory work on Ubuntu amd64 ?
[07:38] <damo21> it does if u compile it
[07:38] <el_toro> sylvan, used to be a boot manager preference thingy, but that seems to have disappeared in recent updates
[07:38] <sylvan> what's it called, maybe it's still in synaptic?
[07:38] <obsvuugj> damo21>does it work on the .run ?
[07:38] <el_toro> sylvan, doubt it
[07:38] <damo21> i dont know, i dont have 64 bit but i know if u compile anything yourself it will work
[07:39] <el_toro> anyway, it's just a little text-file editing, and you only have to do it once
[07:39] <sylvan> okay, the first partition on my the first disk is (hd0,0) right?
[07:39] <r0d> yep
[07:39] <el_toro> right-o
[07:39] <obsvuugj> damo21> how do I complie ? ./configure && make && sudo make install ?
[07:40] <damo21> how do u compile?  try a gentoo stage 1 installation u will learn how to compile
[07:40] <damo21> :D
[07:40] <funkyHat> haha
[07:40] <r0d> sylvan,  I had same problem when i had a dual-booting system. dam microsoft is mbr hog
[07:40] <Karnivore> Hey people
[07:40] <n00bster> can somone assist me ?
[07:40] <evian> how come gnome uses esd instead of alsa?
[07:40] <obsvuugj> is it ./configure && make && sudo make install
[07:41] <r0d> n00bster,  just ask question bud
[07:41] <n00bster> is there an  xface Download Accelerator Manager in ubuntu ?
[07:41] <sylvan> what does "chainloader +1" mean?
[07:41] <ProN00b> ./pftp: error while loading shared libraries: libpftputil.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:41] <sylvan> and "makeactive"?
[07:41] <kemik> obsvuugj:  usuallly..
[07:41] <damo21> obsvuugj try it
[07:41] <apokryphos> obsvuugj: it's generally conventional to specify the prefix for many apps, on the configure. Are you sure you have the source, though, and that you should compile it?
[07:41] <obsvuugj> ok
[07:41] <ProN00b> why do i get that through that library is in /usr/local/lib
[07:41] <kemik> obsvuugj:  read the "INSTALL" or "README" file
[07:41] <cantona_> Breezy Colony 5 is pre relesae?
[07:42] <n00bster> ?
[07:42] <thrice`> well, it's before the release
[07:42] <apokryphos> cantona_: yes
[07:42] <Karnivore> Is Ubuntu a good build of Linux to learn about Linux in general? I'm going into different IT jobs after uni and Linux is used alot in networking of course
[07:42] <thrice`> so I guess so
[07:42] <n00bster> well rob, i did :)
[07:42] <cantona_> Does it support IBM X32?
[07:42] <r0d> n00bster, when someone doesnt answer, usally means they dont know. do a linux google search on it
[07:42] <evian> cantona_ I don't know about Colony 5, but breezy should be released this month
[07:43] <n00bster> i found onlly progzilla, but it's console based.
[07:43] <yarddog> i dont see pre-release anywhere on that url
[07:43] <apokryphos> the Colony releases are just snapshots of the development done on the given distro-in-work in ISOs
[07:43] <n00bster> and i'm looking for en xface program
[07:43] <damo21> sylvan: chainloader +1 is to tell the cpu to execute the boot code at the next physical block on the disk
[07:43] <evian> Karnivore: I think it is good
[07:43] <r0d> or ask the almighty bob2
[07:43] <r0d> no private though.. he'll spank u
[07:43] <obsvuugj> I cant find the source for linux ....
[07:44] <Plebeuz> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[07:44] <JDigital> Karnivore: I think it's as good as any other, at least
[07:44] <apokryphos> Plebeuz: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[07:44] <JDigital> but then I've only used Ubuntu
[07:44] <TrekCycling> is the Breezy preview the latest version of Breezy?
[07:44] <r0d> obsvuugj,  in synaptic or on the net?
[07:44] <Karnivore> Okay thanks, it always a start
[07:44] <Plebeuz> ohhh
[07:44] <obsvuugj> in the official ssite of ET
[07:44] <Karnivore>  I tried Gentoo but didnt like it that much
[07:44] <Plebeuz> gcc is not installed
[07:44] <kemik> Karnivore:  linux from scratch
[07:44] <TrekCycling> or is there a different place to get the latest cut of Breezy?
[07:45] <Kyral> Plebeuz, install the build-essiential package
[07:45] <Kyral> but spelled right
[07:45] <damo21> gentoo is very good, but after 1 year you realise it takes too much time to maintain
[07:45] <apokryphos> TrekCycling: Colony 5 is the latest ISO release
[07:45] <Karnivore> yeah, you have to compile things all the time dont you
[07:45] <TrekCycling> That's what I want
[07:45] <damo21> yes
[07:45] <TrekCycling> where do you get the Colony ISOs?
[07:45] <apokryphos> TrekCycling: /topic
[07:45] <damo21> ubuntu is excellent
[07:45] <Plebeuz> Kyral, i dont like to install things by apt get, that messed up with linux
[07:45] <r0d> obsvuugj,  go to kernel.org  for latest
[07:46] <r0d> obsvuugj,  or just type "linux source" in synaptic
[07:46] <TrekCycling> oh duh, thanks
[07:46] <kemik> Plebeuz:  apt-get is preffered over compiling yourself if you wanna keep your system 'clean'
[07:46] <Kyral> Plebeuz, then how will you install things on Ubuntu?
[07:46] <Kyral> Surely you don't want to put yourself through Dependency Hell
[07:46] <Plebeuz> .deb package
[07:46] <Plebeuz> or tar.gz
[07:46] <kemik> Plebeuz:  removing stuff yuo've compiled yourself is often messy
[07:46] <Kyral> guess what, Debs are Apt :P
[07:46] <kemik> Kyral:  no
[07:46] <damo21> Kyral he will use synaptic i assume
[07:46] <Kyral> Apt is a fronted to dselect
[07:46] <apokryphos> kemik: not really; make uninstall :P
[07:46] <r0d> obsvuugj, its alittle more process to compling your own kernel. i remember having to downloading some support files...
[07:47] <Kyral> in theory
[07:47] <foampeice> how do i put each line of a text file if it were a list of packages onto the commandline to be processed by apt-get remove ?
[07:47] <obsvuugj> r0d> not the kernel, the source code of enemy territory :P
[07:47] <Kyral> Okay, the way I see it
[07:47] <transparentdream> Is there a graphing program for ubuntu like a graphing calcuilator?
[07:47] <kemik> apokryphos:  not all programs are nice
[07:47] <r0d> ahh
[07:47] <Kyral> Apt acts like a bigass search engine for dselect/dpkg
[07:47] <r0d> guess i need my coffee
[07:47] <apokryphos> kemik: sure; but they _generally_ have a nice make uninstall
[07:47] <Plebeuz> kemik, make uninstall works fine for me
[07:47] <foampeice> buchan: what packages do you need to run sympatico?
[07:47] <el_toro> good ol checkinstall
[07:47] <cantona_> i think apt is better than aptitute, anyone agree?
[07:47] <D1> breezy needs an updated gnome-power-manager. ;[
[07:48] <buchan> o_O
[07:48] <apokryphos> cantona_: aptitude is a front-end to apt
[07:48] <foampeice> do any of the package managers show orphans?
[07:48] <apokryphos> cantona_: apt-get is also a front-end to apt
[07:48] <n00bster> qwestion: is there a way to play my win' games in Linux ? (insted of booting to windows)
[07:48] <blekos> hello ppl
[07:48] <Kyral> foampeice, sudo apt-get install debfoster
[07:48] <r0d> i hope badger has BUM by default
[07:48] <apokryphos> foampeice: deborphan does, and aptitude keeps track of them.
[07:48] <damo21> ok, guys everyone who wants to chat about how cool ubuntu is lets go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:48] <cantona_> apokryphos, it's differece with apt-get and aptitute install ....
[07:48] <blekos> do u know any good ftp with gui?
[07:48] <foampeice> Kyral: debfoster?
[07:48] <stpere> n00bster, look for Cedega
[07:49] <Kyral> its either deborphan or debfoster
[07:49] <Kyral> one just lists orphans
[07:49] <apokryphos> cantona_: sure; but you said "better than apt", which is incomplete :P
[07:49] <kemik> cantona_:  not really any difference
[07:49] <n00bster> ok, thanks stpere.
[07:49] <buchan> Is the Ubuntu GTK theme and the likes  availble to download online anywhere?
[07:49] <rockin_stan> anybody managed to get the last.fm player running under gnome?
[07:49] <apokryphos> Kyral: nope, they can both remove them, but they serve slightly different functions
[07:49] <Kyral> the other actually goes through your list and asks if you wanna uninstall things
[07:49] <kemik> cantona_:  i mean, they both utilize the same "core" or whatever you like to callit
[07:49] <apokryphos> Kyral: debfoster works with conjugation of other packages which it holds on to
[07:49] <r0d> blekos, gftp is a gui based client
[07:49] <Kyral> yah, I get'em mixed up
[07:49] <Karnivore> stpere, does that mean with Cedega you could run windows games on a mac, through ubuntu?
[07:50] <blekos> thanx r0d
[07:50] <r0d> :D
[07:50] <stpere> Karnivore, I don't think so
[07:50] <stpere> Karnivore, because it's not an emulator
[07:50] <buchan> Karnivore: No.
[07:50] <stpere> Karnivore, only a Windows API translation/implementation
[07:51] <foampeice> apokryphos: how do you remove the orphans in aptitude?
[07:51] <Karnivore> okay I didnt think so, just dreaming :)
[07:51] <r0d> any .net programmers here use mono?
[07:51] <buchan> Karnivore: Maybe once Mac goes x86 there will be Cedega for it.
[07:52] <stpere> someone know why I installed the nvidia drivers (supplied by ubuntu), I do get the nvidia logo on startup but...
[07:52] <Burke> hi all
[07:52] <Karnivore> yeah thats a good point
[07:52] <stpere> still no direct rendering
[07:52] <Kyral> Hoary or Breezy?
[07:52] <stpere> me? Hoary
[07:52] <Kyral> nm then
[07:52] <Kyral> didja do sudo nvidia-glx enable?
[07:52] <sheb> breezy upgrades are messing up wirelessconnections
[07:52] <stpere> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:52] <Kyral> or whatever that command is?
[07:52] <stpere> yes I did
[07:53] <Kyral> reload X
[07:53] <stpere> done this
[07:53] <Burke> Question, can Hoary Live save my configs?
[07:53] <foampeice> how do i use debfoster to remove orphans?
[07:53] <stpere> I'm really confused now
[07:53] <stpere> :-P
[07:53] <Kyral> foampeice, do a sudo debfoster
[07:54] <Kyral> it will go through EVERY package in your system and ask you about it (Keep, Remove, Purge)
[07:54] <sheb> breezy problems
[07:54] <stpere> my xorg.conf file seems ok since it has "nvidia" rather than "nv"
[07:54] <Kyral> stpere, only thing I can think of is that your card isn't supported by the drivers
[07:54] <Kyral> I know SOME older cards aren't supported anymore
[07:54] <stpere> no, nevermind I found it
[07:55] <Kyral> ah good then
[07:55] <stpere> shame on me :-)
[07:55] <willvarfar> which package do I need to get pthreads?
[07:55] <stpere> left a Load "dri"
[07:55] <vengeful_> installed breezy last week and it even detected the crappy belkin in my desktop....and the pro wireless in laptop
[07:55] <Kyral> I always compile my NVidia from scratch
[07:55] <helmethedd> hello all
[07:55] <vengeful_> no problems
[07:55] <damo21> yes u need Load "dri" in xorg.conf
[07:56] <afd_> how would it be possible to change the display driver for totem? Something like it's possible with xine
[07:56] <Kyral> damo21, you don't
[07:56] <Kyral> hell it screws up the NVidia driver
[07:56] <TiMiDo> damn wan't to get a Dvd drive so badly
[07:56] <helmethedd> i need a bunch of help with hoary on a few diff. areas
[07:56] <damo21> really?
[07:56] <Kyral> yah
[07:56] <damo21> k
[07:57] <helmethedd> yeah totem to start with
[07:57] <damo21> anyone got a dvb card?
[07:57] <helmethedd> let me take that back
[07:57] <TiMiDo> oh freaking Mouse i hate it,
[07:57] <buchan> Is the Ubuntu GTK theme and the likes  availble to download online anywhere?
[07:57] <helmethedd> i downloaded ubuntu 5.04 is that the latest, or should i update
[07:58] <TiMiDo> yeah, that's the latest
[07:58] <helmethedd> ty
[07:58] <TiMiDo> breezy is coming on OCTOBER
[07:58] <vengeful_> can you not just add it in add applications or package manager?
[07:58] <Burke> I really like Hoary Live.
[07:58] <n00bster> qwestion: is there a way to play my win' games in Linux ? Fore Free ?
[07:58] <Burke> I just can't figure how to get it to see my hda.
[07:58] <Kyral> n00bster, WINE, but its hit and miss
[07:58] <buchan> n00bster: Cedega. Just roll your own.
[07:59] <Kyral> Cedega+Point2Play is much more reliable, at the cost of 5 bucks a month
[07:59] <larsrohdin> Hi, how do I enable x composite extensions?
[07:59] <sheb> breezy updates are breaking stuff ..yea wireless
[07:59] <helmethedd> i'm on a dell inspiron 2200 laptop, and i'm told i should search for graphics drivers. Where am i gonna find em?
[07:59] <TiMiDo> u can get cedega \for free ;P
[07:59] <buchan> Kyral: I fail to see the usefulness of Point2Play.
[07:59] <Kyral> TiMiDo, it doesn't support InstallShield, or so I have heard
[07:59] <Burke> I'm about to install 5.04 on my spare 20gb drive. Any advice?
[07:59] <TiMiDo> truew
[08:00] <vengeful_> add to xorg.conf
[08:00] <vengeful_> Section "Extensions"
[08:00] <vengeful_> Option "Composite" "Enabled"
[08:00] <vengeful_> EndSection
[08:00] <vengeful_> that should do it
[08:00] <vengeful_> i think
[08:00] <n00bster> Cedega is not Free !
[08:00] <sheb> dhcp software is crashing wireless configurations
[08:00] <helmethedd> where or how do i update my drivers for dell
[08:00] <sheb> on breezy
[08:01] <n00bster> & about wine, i'll give it a go
[08:01] <n00bster> ty..........
[08:01] <helmethedd> just go to dell?
[08:01] <vengeful_> whatcha need to update helmethedd?
[08:01] <Kyral> sheb, Breezy is busted
[08:01] <Kyral> in devel
[08:01] <larsrohdin> vengeful_, anything I have to download? I have xcompmgr, but anything else?
[08:01] <Kyral> I'm gonna sound like a BOFH here, but you knew what you were doing when you installed it :P
[08:01] <helmethedd> well i'm told i should update my graphics drivers vengeful
[08:01] <sheb> why ? it ran good for several days until the new freakin updates
[08:02] <vengeful_> larsohdin..i think its already in the latest release
[08:02] <notaction> Sorry people, I asked this earlier, but I didn't know xchat has a limited buffer.. How do you get out of XFree86, and then how do you get back into it?
[08:02] <yuacht> hmm, when i upgraded too breezy my keyboard layout stopped working, any clue how to solve it? i want swedish keyboard layout
[08:02] <vengeful_> so should just add ..i think...never used it to be honest
[08:02] <Kyral> sheb, I'm no MOTU so I don't know
[08:02] <Kyral> use dhclient3
[08:02] <larsrohdin> vengeful_, ok then I'll just restart X i'll  be back if I get problems.. thanks
[08:02] <vengeful_> which card you got helme?
[08:03] <sheb> so where is MOTU
[08:03] <Kyral> notaction, drop to a VT (CTRL+ALT+F1)  login and do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:03] <helmethedd> venge...i'm not really certain. its built into the laptop and i don't know how to access the info in linux
[08:03] <Kyral> that will halt GDM (and X in the process)
[08:03] <vengeful_> which laptop?
[08:03] <helmethedd> inspiron 2200
[08:03] <Kyral> to get back in just startx or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:03] <vengeful_> il check
[08:04] <helmethedd> thanks pardner
[08:05] <notaction> Kyral, thanks. But could you tell me A) What VT stands for, B) how to parse that command? what does the etc, init.d, and gmd part mean? Are those folders or something?
[08:05] <helmethedd> any one know how to get the palm desk top action working on ubuntu?
[08:05] <Kyral> VT == Virtual Desktop
[08:05] <helmethedd> i followed the instuctions to know avail
[08:06] <Kyral> err
[08:06] <helmethedd> i've only had ubuntu a day now so i'm in over my head
[08:06] <notaction> All try it now...
[08:06] <Kyral> Virtual Terminal
[08:06] <gp_aaron> where does the binary for imagemagick install to?
[08:06] <boxerboy29> vengsful_  try device manager
[08:06] <notaction> That makes more sense
[08:06] <Kyral> /etc/init.d is a directory where devices live
[08:06] <Kyral> err
[08:06] <Kyral> services
[08:07] <Kyral> gdm is the GNOME Display Manager (Your Login Screen when X Fires up when you boot)
[08:07] <mouhez> what firewall does 5.04 use and how do I open port 22?
[08:07] <Kyral> and stop and start tell it start and stop
[08:07] <Kyral> mouhez, by default no firewall
[08:07] <gp_aaron> mouhez: I don't think ubuntu has a firewall by default, are you running a router?
[08:08] <notaction> Kyral, for what I'm doing, it says something to the effect of that all XFree86 instances must be off. Is that going to take care of that?
[08:08] <Kyral> because no services run by default
[08:08] <Kyral> notaction, yes
[08:08] <mouhez> I'm not doing anything, I just want to access my friend's computer
[08:08] <mouhez> :)
[08:08] <mouhez> so he just has to give me a user/pass?
[08:08] <boxerboy29> during install it asks you if you want to enable a firewall
[08:08] <gp_aaron> mouhez: as long as he doesn't have a router running
[08:08] <Kyral> it does?
[08:08] <Kyral> Since when?
[08:08] <mouhez> hmm
[08:08] <boxerboy29> it does for me
[08:08] <notaction> Is there a font that closely resembles the Fixedsys of Windows?
[08:09] <mouhez> nmap says "22/tcp closed ssh", that means there is no firewall?
[08:09] <gp_aaron> mouhez: routers block port 22 by default
[08:09] <mouhez> he doesn't have a router
[08:09] <boxerboy29> where it lists what you want to allow  http ,ssh, so on and so forth
[08:09] <gp_aaron> mouhez: then maybe he is running a firewall on his system
[08:09] <Kyral> boxerboy29, you mean Lokkit?
[08:09] <gp_aaron> or doesn't have ssh installed or doesn't have it running
[08:10] <boxerboy29> i dont know what its called it doesnt say
[08:10] <mouhez> hmm okay
[08:10] <vengeful_> i think its the i915..same as inspiron 6000...why do you need to update?
[08:10] <boxerboy29> kyral: its on same install page that if you want to enable selinux
[08:11] <notaction> Kyral, it looks like "etc" is an important directory in Linux. What does it do?
[08:11] <Kyral> which installer is this?
[08:11] <mouhez> how do I enable ssh then? :)
[08:11] <Plebeuz> i need to install ncurses in ubuntu
[08:11] <gp_aaron> mouhez: sudo apt-get install ssh
[08:11] <Kyral> notaction, /etc is VERY important
[08:11] <mouhez> aha, thanks
[08:11] <boxerboy29> both 5.04 adn 5.10 ask it as for if its anaconda or another again not real sure never looked
[08:11] <Kyral> there is a reason you can't go mucking about in there without root
[08:12] <P229> mouhez: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[08:12] <gp_aaron> mouhez: then /etc/initd/sshd start (if the script doesn't do it for you)
[08:12] <mouhez> :)
[08:12] <atila_sendil> hi all; anyone know a good and easy program to edit .iso files ?
[08:12] <mouhez> okay
[08:12] <r0d> anyone here read TUX magazine?
[08:12] <boxerboy29> next time i have to install it ill look :(
[08:12] <Kyral> yah
[08:12] <notaction> Is 'directory' an appropriate qualifier for what 'etc' is, or is it "not a directory"? wht does it stand for?
[08:12] <Kyral> 'cause last time I installed Breezy Preview, I didn't see that at all
[08:13] <r0d> Kyral,  did you read the recent issue on how gnome is always changing its core design
[08:13] <Kyral> then again I went with a standard thing
[08:13] <Kyral> r0d, that yah was to boxerboy29
[08:13] <boxerboy29> breezy has it that im sure about hoary i remember seeing it but its been awhile
[08:13] <Kyral> notaction, its a directory
[08:13] <Kyral> but a really important one!
[08:13] <notaction> Linux looks so much like scientology with all these scary abbreviations, that's why I've been put off of it for so long
[08:14] <notaction> But I want to give it a fair chance
[08:14] <Kyral>  /usr == User Programs
[08:14] <r0d> Kyral,  right. I dont see what he means by that. gnome since i've been using has always had the same core functionality
[08:14] <gp_aaron> can apt tell you where a application is installed to?
[08:14] <P229> atila_sendil: winiso... yes, I know it's a windows program. unfortunately, there's no such program for linux (that I'm aware of)
[08:14] <Kyral>  /boot == Things that the system need to boot
[08:14] <r0d> just blew my mind...
[08:14] <gp_aaron> i really don't like apt:|
[08:14] <stpere> arg! still no luck with this nvidia driver
[08:14] <Kyral>  /bin == Binary Files
[08:14] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: *gasp*
[08:14] <gp_aaron> heh
[08:15] <atila_sendil> P229, ty; does it work with wine ?
[08:15] <r0d> linux 101 channel
[08:15] <gp_aaron> Razor-X: I've used better that is all
[08:15] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: in my experience, Gentoo portage is all that i've found that's better in some areas
[08:15] <Kyral> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[08:15] <r0d> Razor-X,  portage is awesome
[08:15] <gp_aaron> portage is alright, but compiling is slow...
[08:15] <Kyral> notaction, read that
[08:16] <Kyral> not exactly the most newbie friendly thing
[08:16] <r0d> but if u dont know what your doing, its a noob nightmare
[08:16] <P229> atila_sendil: don't know, there's a good chance it will, especially if you have a version of winiso that works in win95/98
[08:16] <r0d> apt-get is so much easier
[08:16] <Razor-X> ugghhh, why can't screen monitor for activity correctly
[08:16] <notaction> OK, will do. This /bin folder you speak of. Does that store C compilers only?
[08:16] <Razor-X> r0d: meh
[08:16] <gp_aaron> pacman on the other hand, is a very fast, light, extensive, and easy to use binary package manager
[08:16] <Tachyon> I get an error that a package can't be downloaded from a repository when I'm trying to install Bluefish through Synaptic.  Is there anything I can do to fix this, is it a problem with my repository lists?
[08:16] <Razor-X> I could use naim instead of pork for AIM, but pork is more full-featured
[08:16] <atila_sendil> P229, thank you; must try it immediately :-) see you all later :-) bye
[08:16] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: hmmm, i've never used that
[08:16] <Kyral> notaction, I'm not sure
[08:16] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: i'll give it a whirl
[08:16] <p0windah> morning girlos and boyos
[08:17] <gp_aaron> Razor-X: Archlinux, and Rubix
[08:17] <Kyral> notaction, I don't know the specifics of the filesystem
[08:17] <Kyral> I just have a vague idea
[08:17] <gp_aaron> it is fully funcional in Arch and slightly crippled in Rubix
[08:17] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: ahhh, I see
[08:17] <notaction> Kyral, I'm bookmarking that page
[08:17] <gp_aaron> Razor-X: Just be warned that the arch installer isn't pretty
[08:18] <Razor-X> If I set screen to monitor a window for activity, why does it tell me there's activity when I switch out from that window
[08:18] <P229> notaction: /bin holds a lot of system programs
[08:18] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: is it better than a Gentoo Stage 2?
[08:18] <gp_aaron> I don't know
[08:18] <gp_aaron> I never do my gentoo installs
[08:18] <gp_aaron> :P
[08:18] <Razor-X> heh
[08:19] <P229> notaction: whereas /sbin holds superuser only system programs
[08:19] <r0d> whats better, firestarter or lokkit? as far as ease of use?
[08:19] <gp_aaron> you can get a arch install up and running in 15 minutes
[08:19] <Razor-X> why not talk to the Ubuntu maintainers about Pacman?
[08:19] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: oh, no, then it's nothing like a Gentoo stage 2
[08:19] <Razor-X> :P
[08:19] <_jason> hi, does anyone know how to get streaming .asx files to work in Ubuntu?
[08:19] <gp_aaron> Razor-X: Ubuntu would have to completely revamped to use pacman
[08:19] <P229> r0d: firestarter is real easy for what it does. never used lokkit
[08:19] <notaction> Is it true that all, or at least most, issues of linux come with a C, C++, and assembly compiler?
[08:20] <notaction> Gnu C compiler or somesuch?
[08:20] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: yeah, I guess
[08:20] <Razor-X> notaction: yeah
[08:20] <helmethedd> i can't seem to get my palm pilot to sync up with ubuntu. Anyone use a palm?
[08:21] <P229> notaction: many distros do, yes, but ubuntu does not (by default... they're still available in the repos)
[08:21] <gp_aaron> helmethedd: I did, it never did sync properly when I used arch
[08:21] <gp_aaron> - arch + ubuntu
[08:21] <notaction> P229,  How do I get it for Ubuntu?
[08:22] <boxerboy29> notaction: synaptic
[08:22] <Razor-X> notaction: sudo aptitude install build-essentials
[08:22] <gp_aaron> well I'm off to eat
[08:22] <gp_aaron> Razor-X: give arch a shot, http://archlinux.org/
[08:22] <helmethedd> what is arch?
[08:22] <gp_aaron> I recommend using the install guide
[08:22] <boxerboy29> arch= linux distro
[08:22] <vladuz976> how can i create .zip files instead of .tar.gz or .gz files?
[08:22] <cs_DK> what is good about arch?
[08:22] <notaction> 'aptitude'?
[08:23] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: Easy to use package management system
[08:23] <Tachyon> I can't seem to connect to the Backports repository.  Am I out of date or something? :/
[08:23] <helmethedd> oh man this is harsh...so much to learn
[08:23] <gp_aaron> Simple Init system
[08:23] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: fast
[08:23] <boxerboy29> tachyon: the mirror max backports have been shut down
[08:24] <cs_DK> gp_aaron: faster than ubuntu?
[08:24] <helmethedd> i don't speak code and it seems to be required to use my computer now
[08:24] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: but it is also for advanced users
[08:24] <P229> notaction: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[08:24] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: so much faster then ubuntu
[08:24] <Gnuclear> does cd-juicer support mp3 encoding? if not, can someone suggest a gui-frntend that can rip audio cds and encode them to mp3?
[08:24] <Tachyon> boxerboy29: Are there other backport repositories?
[08:24] <cs_DK> gp_aaron: does it use gnome or kde?
[08:24] <maximaus> Gnuclear, with the correct plugins, yes. I prefer ripperX, fwiw.
[08:25] <boxerboy29> tachyon i dont use backports but yes i think i read that in it ill get site give me a few
[08:25] <P229> Gnuclear: nothing in ubuntu supports mp3 by default (patent issues), you'll have to install the codecs, etc., manually
[08:25] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: neither
[08:25] <gp_aaron> or both
[08:25] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: I will, when I get the time
[08:25] <gp_aaron> which ever you'd like
[08:25] <Razor-X> school's been a total b**ch though
[08:25] <cs_DK> gp_aaron: ok, I'll take a look
[08:26] <maximaus> P229,  Manually? you mean just firing up synaptic and clicking a couple boxes? :P
[08:26] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: it installs a base system, then you install the xserver and the desktop environment of your choice
[08:26] <kbrooks> Hey!
[08:26] <gp_aaron> that's what arch is about, choice
[08:26] <cs_DK> gp_aaron: but I can do that with debian also :-)
[08:26] <gp_aaron> ye
[08:26] <kbrooks> I have a problem.
[08:26] <kbrooks> I'm in cli, irssi
[08:27] <P229> maximaus: it's a chore, isn't it?
[08:27] <TiMiDo> kbrooks, what problems?
[08:27] <gp_aaron> and that is the problem kbrooks?
[08:27] <kbrooks> and ...
[08:27] <kbrooks> well, smbclient -- where can i get it?
[08:27] <boxerboy29> tachyon: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69681
[08:27] <TiMiDo> kbrooks, sudo apt-get install smbclient
[08:27] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: you cannot be afraid to edit config files and use the command line
[08:27] <TiMiDo> !Info smbclient
[08:27] <ubotu> smbclient: has nothing about Info
[08:27] <kbrooks> my ubuntu cd is stratched
[08:27] <kbrooks> !info smbclient
[08:27] <ubotu> smbclient: (a LanManager-like simple client for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2337 kB, Installed size: 5996 kB
[08:27] <gp_aaron> so?
[08:28] <kbrooks> all over it
[08:28] <Tachyon> boxerboy29: Thanks.
[08:28] <kbrooks> !info smbclient warty
[08:28] <_jason> bah guess I have to boot windows to listen to .asx D:
[08:28] <gp_aaron> kbrooks, don't use the ubuntu cd
[08:28] <boxerboy29> tachyon: yw
[08:28] <ubotu> smbclient: (a LanManager-like simple client for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.7-1ubuntu6 (warty), Packaged size: 2246 kB, Installed size: 5776 kB
[08:28] <Grev> anyone using 3d accel driver for nvidia under Breezy here
[08:28] <cs_DK> Grev: why?
[08:29] <gp_aaron> well i'm off
[08:29] <gp_aaron> bye all
[08:29] <basvg> hmm, I just did a fresh hoary install on my laptop... went smoothly (as expected). Only the w32codecs package seems to be gone... searching for it in synaptic. What happened to it..?
[08:29] <sktrdie> freaking fever
[08:29] <sas171> hi, how to setup my monitor? I mean, is there some easier way as xorgconf in Ubuntu?
[08:29] <sktrdie> home all day
[08:29] <kbrooks> gp_aaron: ok
[08:30] <kbrooks> aptituding now
[08:30] <TiMiDo> sas171, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:30] <Grev> I'm trying to run my card with 3D nvidia driver (installed/ran nvidia-glx-config enable), but my machine does not seem to have the nvidia.o module
[08:30] <Ne754> sas171: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg yet?
[08:30] <gp_aaron> kbrooks just comment the cd out of the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:30] <TiMiDo> sas171,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:30] <Razor-X> basvg: do you have the correct repos added in?
[08:30] <sas171> thank you I'll try it now
[08:30] <TiMiDo> np
[08:31] <sheb> so nobody is really making any comments on breezy or i just missed it ll
[08:31] <basvg> Razor-X: afaik yes, I copied the /etc/apt/sources.list from my work-box ..
[08:31] <Razor-X> basvg: hmmm....
[08:31] <larsrohdin> I cant get my panel transparent in xfce4, can someone help me? I have enabled composite extensions in xorg.conf, and I have created a file called transparency in my xfce folder but still it won't work...
[08:31] <Razor-X> basvg: if this was mplayer, you could just download the codecs from elsewhere, i'm not sure how it works in other media players
[08:31] <TiMiDo> larsrohdin, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[08:31] <p0windah> sheb: what kinda comments you looking for ?
[08:31] <damo21> larsrohdin i bet u use ati card?
[08:32] <larsrohdin> TiMiDo, thats the one I mean
[08:32] <p0windah> sheb: I've got it installed on a desktop and a tablet pc here without any problems..
[08:32] <basvg> Razor-X: Yeah I might just do that.. need to figure out how to get totem to play my dvd :)
[08:32] <larsrohdin> damo21, no 6800gt with latest drivers
[08:32] <damo21> lucky u.... i cant get any transparency with radeon 9800pro
[08:32] <sheb> bout it current state of affairs in regards to it breaking my freakin wireless configurations after I install the upgrades
[08:32] <notaction> heh..hey, is there a 'pi' button on the calculator that comes with ubuntu? Hm, moreover, is there a software package thing that has a really nice calculator that you can enter long expressions into?
[08:32] <damo21> preview breezy
[08:33] <p0windah> sheb: binary drivers ? isnt that in release notes or something..
[08:33] <atila_sendil> P229, hi again; unfortunately winiso did not go with wine; so any cd burning software to make a bootable cd ?
[08:33] <notaction> Um...what's emacs?
[08:33] <Hikaru79> Can Windows be an NFS client?
[08:33] <larsrohdin> notaction, a good editor
[08:33] <damo21> kbrooks... just wait till 13th
[08:33] <mjr> Hikaru79, there are NFS clients for Windows, but you'd probably be better off with Samba at the server end
[08:33] <notaction> Text editor?
[08:33] <P229> atila_sendil: you want to burn an ISO to CD?
[08:33] <kbrooks> damo21: i know, thats why i said "yet to"
[08:33] <Ne754> notaction: an editor that can be compared to vi (ie> vi vs emacs debate)
[08:33] <sheb> where are the rel.notes
[08:33] <mjr> also, I'm not sure if there are beer-free NFS clients for Windows
[08:33] <larsrohdin> notaction, whatever editor... text, code etc.
[08:33] <Hikaru79> mjr, I would, but Samba is such a pain to configure :(
[08:34] <larsrohdin> notaction, I use it to write c++
[08:34] <Ne754> sas171 > any luck on the reconfig?
[08:34] <atila_sendil> P229, well I have the iso but I guess with fileroller I can get the files inside; or just mount it and copy. but I want to add folders and make a bootable CD :-)
[08:34] <kbrooks> larsrohdin: ew c++
[08:34] <P229> notaction: why don't you try the LiveCD?
[08:34] <larsrohdin> kbrooks, huh?
[08:34] <discipleofyeshua> is breezy a stable operating system?
[08:34] <sas171> Ne754: i'm doing it now, one second
[08:35] <kbrooks> discipleofyeshua: wait until the 13th
[08:35] <notaction> I've got it installed on a virtual machine, I think it's better this way.
[08:35] <scribbles> anyone got a sample sources.list for 5.10?
[08:35] <larsrohdin> kbrooks, ew?
[08:35] <Ne754> sas171: ok
[08:35] <p0windah> discipleofyeshua: the preview still have issues that need to be ironed out
[08:35] <P229> atila_sendil: oh... if you're new to linux, I'd just use windows and winiso. there's a way to do what you want to do, but it's a major PITA
[08:36] <kbrooks> scribbles: sed -i -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:36] <scribbles> I can't seem to get apt-get to work in 5.10
[08:36] <scribbles> whats that do brooks?
[08:36] <Coder|Away> Hi all, I've got a seemingly simple question: How can I get ubuntu to remember my DNS server IPs instead of querying the router for them?
[08:36] <Razor-X> notaction: in Octave or Maxima (which are downloadable, and more powerful) there should be pi included
[08:36] <kbrooks> scribbles: do you have hoary installed?
[08:36] <scribbles> no
[08:36] <atila_sendil> P229, so any recommendations to to start reading :-) like nero had the option in windows or so ?
[08:36] <scribbles> preview 5.10
[08:37] <larsrohdin> so, any ideas on my transparetn panel?
[08:37] <kbrooks> scribbles: oh, sorry
[08:37] <p0windah> coder: have a look in /etc/resolv.conf
[08:37] <atila_sendil> and anybody know a program to make a bootable CD with the boot part I provide ?
[08:37] <Shin_Gouki> how do i mount, access a USB stick from bash?
[08:37] <boxerboy29> apt-get works out of box on breezy should anyway
[08:37] <sheb> at first i thought it was just the dhcp* stuff ..unchecked those in the update  ..there are other waaaay serious ills
[08:37] <P229> atila_sendil: basically, what you would have to do is extract the boot track from the iso, extract all the files, add your files, then rebuild the iso
[08:37] <scribbles> Err http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net breezy-extras/restricted Packages
[08:37] <scribbles>   404 Not Found
[08:37] <Coder> p0windah: Ok, thanks. I'll take a look.
[08:37] <sas171> Ne754: I have a PS/2 mouse what dev should I choose?
[08:37] <P229> atila_sendil: with cdrecord, probably
[08:37] <kbrooks> scribbles: comment that out
[08:37] <Hendric> what is the most minimal install option for breezy? aside from the SERVER option?
[08:37] <kbrooks> in sources.list
[08:37] <boxerboy29> scribbles: mirrormax backports have been shut down
[08:37] <Ne754> sas171 > should be the /dev/input/mice (the default)
[08:37] <scribbles> oh okay
[08:37] <atila_sendil> P229, exactly what I want to do; I'll start reading cdrecord ty :-)
[08:37] <P229> atila_sendil: nero can burn a bootable iso
[08:38] <sas171> Ne754: ok, thx
[08:38] <P229> atila_sendil: have fun :)
[08:38] <hussam> I'm trying to clean up my kubuntu system. I found those packages that are not dependancies of other package
[08:38] <hussam> are these packages safe to remove? texinfo texi2html python2.4-numarray lapack3
[08:38] <shinu> is abc bittorrent client in the repos?
[08:39] <kbrooks> hussam: check them to see if they rely on any other packages
[08:39] <hussam> kbrooks: no installed packages rely on them.
[08:40] <P229> shinu: not for 5.10
[08:40] <atila_sendil> hussam : how did you find those packages ?
[08:40] <kbrooks> hussam: its safe then
[08:40] <p0windah> hussam: apt-cache show texinfo; then if its not something you need, apt-get remove --purge texinfo
[08:40] <shinu> P229: 5.04?
[08:40] <hussam> atila_sendil: browsing thourgh synaptic
[08:40] <P229> shinu: don't know
[08:40] <atila_sendil> hussam ty; thought there was a way to list them :-)
[08:41] <kbrooks> Seveas: hi
[08:41] <Hendric> what is the most minimal install option for breezy?
[08:41] <brosio> an howto to print on ubuntu ?
[08:41] <P229> Hendric: "server," I think
[08:41] <Seveas> hi Kyle
[08:41] <boxerboy29> hendric: server
[08:41] <notaction> OK. If I get GCC and stuff like that, the libraries, headers, etc, all come with it?
[08:41] <kbrooks> Seveas: what's up?
[08:41] <p0windah> Seveas: your repos. came through for me. been playing kbattleship with the mrs using your packages nx stuff. cheers
[08:41] <p0windah> packaged, rather
[08:42] <Hendric> aside from server.. like making it a plain client...
[08:42] <CarlFK> any recomendations on a USB based tv tuner?
[08:42] <boxerboy29> seveas: whats the chance of adding a link for the closing of mirrormax backports to the topic?
[08:42] <kbrooks> Hendric: please read the description of server -- it is NOT what you think it is
[08:42] <jdub> Hendric: the 'server' install is just a core system, no desktop, no servers, etc.
[08:42] <hussam> atila_sendil: there is deporphan but it won't list much
[08:43] <Seveas> boxerboy29, nil
[08:43] <boxerboy29> ok just checking
[08:43] <BiSK-8> hello
[08:43] <Seveas> kbrooks, busy rewriting my repo scripts :)
[08:43] <squid0> does anyone know how to get midi working on ubuntu?
[08:43] <atila_sendil> hussam, ty :-)
[08:43] <BiSK-8> is there any software that i can get through atp-get 2 overclock my pc?
[08:43] <kbrooks> I'm rebooting into a GUI now ;)
[08:43] <Hendric> ah... sounds great.. need to do it on an old P1 200MHZ pc ehehe
[08:44] <squid0> yes? no? midi? tea, anyone?
[08:44] <kbrooks> Seveas: will Breezy include GNOME 2.12?
[08:45] <Seveas> it already does
[08:45] <kbrooks> Cool.
[08:45] <Seveas> since 2.12 has been released
[08:45] <kbrooks> grrr.
[08:46] <atila_sendil> Hendric, in fact I am right now installing one 64MB laptop now :-)
[08:46] <scribbles> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[08:46] <scribbles>  <---- what should I use in 5.10, I got that from the 5.04 starter guide
[08:46] <Hendric> in breezy... the menu editor doesn't include application added menus.. how do i edit them?
[08:46] <Hikaru79> Is there away to make a SAMBA share visible only to one certain IP address in the LAN?
[08:47] <squid0> i'm a bit new to this... can you read me at all?
[08:47] <Hikaru79> squid, we can read ya.
[08:47] <squid0> great. thanks, Hikaru
[08:47] <Hikaru79> =)
[08:47] <Hikaru79> What's the problem?
[08:48] <notaction> Maybe a stupid question here, but humour me. Does linux use drive letters?
[08:48] <squid0> i don't know how to get midi to work on ubuntu
[08:48] <darkling> notaction: No.
[08:48] <Plebeuz> anyone can help me? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl
[08:48] <Hikaru79> notaction, not in the sense that windows does.
[08:48] <Hikaru79> Ah, midi.
[08:48] <Hikaru79> squid0, I'll get you a link to a guide.
[08:48] <squid0> yes? <perks up ears>
[08:48] <basvg> hmmm, now it seems that mplayer at least *sees* my dvd... wish I could play it with totem
[08:48] <damo21> notaction: linux uses device nodes instead..  /dev/hda1 = c:
[08:48] <MikkelK> Daaaaamn it takes long time to update to Colony5... ZZZZzzzz...
[08:48] <Hikaru79> squid0, here you go: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58859&highlight=midi
[08:49] <Hikaru79> Those steps right there should get you up and running :) They did for me.
[08:49] <squid0> great. thanks, hikaru. i'll have a look now
[08:49] <Hikaru79> ^_^ Kay. If something's not working, ask here.
[08:49] <notaction> Ah, it becomes a little clearer now
[08:49] <damo21> does anyone know if there is a package similar to Cakewalk 8 for linux?
[08:50] <damo21> i'd like to do midi synthesis on ubuntu
[08:51] <atila_sendil> damo21, I got Rosegarden4 but could not yet manage to use it :-(
[08:52] <squid0> okay, will do
[08:53] <squid0> Hikaru, how big are pmidi and timidity? i'm on a capped line...
[08:53] <kbrooks> any ideas?
[08:53] <Hikaru79> squid0, they're fairly small.
[08:53] <squid0> like, less than 4-5M?
[08:53] <kbrooks> so...........
[08:53] <Hikaru79> I'm not on Ubuntu right now, so I can't give you exact sizes, but probably under 10 mb
[08:53] <kbrooks> *reboots*
[08:54] <Hendric> in breezy... the menu editor doesn't include application added menus.. how do i edit them?
[08:54] <Hikaru79> kborokos, what's the problem?
[08:54] <squid0> ok. thanks
[08:54] <kbrooks> bbl
[08:54] <P229> squid0: probably pretty small. and how'd you get stuck with a capped line?
[08:54] <Hikaru79> squid0, if you use Synaptic, it'll tell you the sizes before you download.
[08:54] <squid0> Hikaru, good idea. was about to do so
[08:54] <P229> squid0: pmidi is about 20 K
[08:54] <squid0> p229: by being in the country called South Africa ;)
[08:55] <delire> Hikaru79: No go? ;)
[08:55] <P229> squid0: ah
[08:55] <squid0> p229: gr8. thanks
[08:55] <squid0> it's a beautiful place, but some things... ah... you know... we're a bit behind
[08:55] <Hikaru79> delire, yes! =D
[08:55] <Hikaru79> delire, are you a Go player too? ^^
[08:56] <Davey> should the x86 live cd work on an athlon64 machine? I understood they were 32bit compatible
[08:56] <delire> Hikaru79: sure ;)
[08:56] <Hikaru79> delire, cool :D How strong?
[08:56] <Agrajag> Davey: yes, it will
[08:56] <Davey> Agrajag, and if it doesn't boot on my laptop, what then? :)
[08:56] <delire> Hikaru79: ahh not so strong. the series got me back into it actually ;)
[08:56] <Agrajag> Bett than the 64-bit livecd in my experience
[08:56] <delire> Hikaru79: i might start looking for  club soon.
[08:56] <Davey> Agrajag, it crashes trying at the Gnome loading screen
[08:56] <Hikaru79> delire, I see. What's "not so strong" though? Are you SDK yet?
[08:56] <Agrajag> Then you should find out why it's not booting.
[08:57] <Agrajag> No clue, I don't do laptops.
[08:57] <delire> Hikaru79: i haven't graded myself. casual player.
[08:57] <P229> Davey: why wouldn't it boot on your laptop?
[08:57] <Hikaru79> delire, I see. Want a game?
[08:57] <P229> oh
[08:57] <delire> Hikaru79: but a great series. really enjoyed the seasons i have seen.
[08:57] <kbrooks> Now to upgrade to hoary.
[08:58] <Hikaru79> Indeed it is :)
[08:58] <delire> Hikaru79: hehe not right now, maybe some other time ;)
[08:58] <Hikaru79> Kay ^_^
[08:58] <delire> Hikaru79: work to do!
[08:59] <shawnz> agh
[08:59] <Hikaru79> delire, yeah me too :( I just don't do it =/
[08:59] <shawnz> silly ubuntu maintainers
[08:59] <shawnz> why is the kernel compiled with gcc-3 :/
[08:59] <delire> Hikaru79: ;)
[08:59] <squid0> Hikaru or p229, apt-get says timidity is an 'invalid operation'. i assume that means it's not found in my repositories? or what?
[08:59] <kbrooks> shawnz, do you want everything to be compiled with gcc 4 ?!?
[09:00] <Hikaru79> squid0, can you paste the entire output?
[09:00] <kbrooks> squid0, apt-get timidy
[09:00] <kbrooks> not
[09:00] <kbrooks> squid0, apt-get install timidy
[09:00] <Hikaru79> 'sudo apt-get install timidity'
[09:00] <squid0> urgh, i forgot to put 'install'
[09:00] <squid0> thanks, guys :)
[09:00] <shawnz> kbrooks, well it would help, since thats the gcc i have installed atm.
[09:00] <Hikaru79> Anyone here know there way well with Samba
[09:00] <Hikaru79> ?
[09:00] <Hikaru79> *their
[09:00] <kbrooks> Hikaru79, just ask
[09:00] <Hikaru79> Is there away to make a SAMBA share visible only to one certain IP address in the LAN?
[09:01] <Toba> can anyone suggest an svg viewer for linux?
[09:01] <Hikaru79> So, like, a share should only be visible to 192.168.1.15 for example.
[09:01] <basvg> hmm ok , can anyone help met get this dvd stuff to work? I followed the restrictedformats howto, installed totem-xine, the w32codecs etcetera.. but it just won't work. When I put the dvd in the drive I only get a nautifuls window asking if I want to burn anything to the dvd..
[09:01] <Hikaru79> And unaccessible AND invisible to any other.
[09:01] <squid0> gotta love apt! :)
[09:01] <sas171> I reconfgured my monitor to 1024x768@75hz, but he (monitor) did 1024x768@85 at SuSE. How can I set it at Ubuntu?
[09:02] <ratl3> hi, my wireless card crashes the computer now in recent updates to breezy
[09:02] <kbrooks> squid0, apt is magical ;)
[09:02] <Hikaru79> squid0, yup =)
[09:02] <ratl3> should i file a bug?
[09:02] <Hikaru79> rat13, it's breezy =/ It'll probably be fixed pretty soon.
[09:02] <cs_DK> ratl3: yes
[09:03] <Strog> kbrooks: I didn't realize you were here too. I thought I was looking at #archlinux for a second when you were talking. ;-)
[09:03] <ratl3> cs_DK, what should i file in my bug?
[09:03] <kbrooks> Strog: heh.
[09:03] <kbrooks> Strog, i switched back from arch
[09:03] <cs_DK> if you do not know what package causes the bug choose UNKNOWN
[09:03] <kbrooks> strog: ubuntu arch ubuntu
[09:04] <ratl3> it's a prism 2 card
[09:04] <Strog> kbrooks: Arch on the x86 laptop but ubuntu on the powerbook for me
[09:04] <ratl3> ok, i'll just try this out
[09:04] <kbrooks> Strog: ppc?
[09:04] <ratl3> what's the command that shows the kernel you're running?
[09:04] <Strog> yep
[09:04] <kbrooks> Cool.
[09:04] <apsync> hi, this morning, when I woke up, windows was not in my bootloader list anymore , how can I add it manually?
[09:04] <cs_DK> ratl3: 'uname -a'
[09:04] <ratl3> thanks
[09:05] <cs_DK> ratl3: remember to search for duplicates first :-)
[09:05] <ratl3> already have
[09:05] <kbrooks> Should I pick smart upgrade?
[09:05] <squid0> fellows, how big is the Unison soundfont? roughly>?
[09:06] <kbrooks> squid0, are you THAT paranoid about this connection cap?
[09:06] <squid0> yes! :)
[09:06] <basvg> hmmm well gxine seems to do the trick, but it is slow :(
[09:06] <squid0> i share the line with a couple other people, and 2 months ago we were capped halfway through the month. = no internet access for 2 weeks
[09:07] <squid0> it's 3 gig per month
[09:07] <Hikaru79> Ouch, squid0 :'(
[09:07] <kbrooks> squid0, who capped you?
[09:07] <squid0> you're telling me
[09:07] <Hikaru79> squid0, the unison soundfont is about 23 MB. I downloaded it the other day.
[09:07] <squid0> some guy  called 'ISP' ;)
[09:07] <apsync> this morning, when I woke up, windows was not in my bootloader list anymore , how can I add it manually in the list again?
[09:07] <kbrooks> Hikaru79, thats massive
[09:07] <squid0> ok, thanks; that's not too bad
[09:07] <Hikaru79> kbrooks, I didn't create it =/
[09:08] <squid0> kbrooks, well, it's relative, i suppose...
[09:08] <kbrooks> i need to code something up -- a bootup manager for the hell of it
[09:08] <squid0> kbrooks: have fun
[09:08] <kbrooks> but first, hoary. ;)
[09:08] <imc> Aarg. Yesterday someone graciously gave me the command to see what's running on a given tcp port, like 25. Like a ps for ports. Anyone know it?
[09:08] <Hendric> squid0: is ubuntu really happening in your place?
[09:08] <squid0> Hendric: meaning, South Africa?
[09:09] <Hendric> yeah :)
[09:09] <imc> basically the question is: how can I list what's listening or bound to :25??
[09:09] <cs_DK> netstat
[09:09] <Seveas> imc, sudo netstat -tlnp
[09:09] <imc> no that shows everything.
[09:09] <imc> ah
[09:09] <imc> thanks will try that
[09:09] <squid0> ah. well, i actually don't know about the wider community. I'm having loads of fun on it, and i know this developer forum/group that is using it AFAIK.
[09:10] <Strog> apsync: http://ubuntuguide.org/#addwindowsentrygrubmenu
[09:10] <KJoN> I need help... Geez, I have 4 fat32 partitions, of the same size, but I would like to identify them without running "fdisk -l". Is there a way to label them?
[09:10] <apsync> thanks
[09:11] <Hendric> squid0: Ah ok :0
[09:11] <kbrooks> thats huge -- 854 packages, 15 removed
[09:11] <kbrooks> and i got capped too. :(
[09:12] <squid0> kbrooks: :(
[09:13] <squid0> Hendric: i'm still searching for the Ubuntu SA site for you. haven't found it.
[09:13] <squid0> but Google ubuntu linux south africa
[09:13] <imc> Okay, this isn't working. I'm getting "Bind: Cannot assign requested address" for the fairly straightforward ssh -c blowfish -L 143:localhost:143 -L 25:localhost:25 user server -f -N        I am  able to log in (it asks for and accepts password) then doesn't bind. Anyone know what I am doing wrong?
[09:13] <Krneki> hay
[09:13] <squid0> and anyway, 'Ubuntu', like Mark Shuttleworh, is South African!
[09:13] <Krneki> how do i set mail server on ubuntu
[09:13] <kbrooks> okay
[09:14] <squid0> so it's with pride that we see the world get excited about some SA linux :)
[09:14] <kbrooks> just opened a new terminal, ran apt-get upgrade, said y, typed ctrl+z, bg, and ctrl+d
[09:14] <imc> squid0 and lemme tell you, I'm VERY excited about Ubuntu.
[09:15] <Seveas> The word Ubuntu is south african. Ubuntu/Canonical are European :)
[09:15] <kbrooks> i need to work on the wiki and see if there is any documentation for me to do
[09:15] <squid0> Seveas: fair enough. but Shuttleworth is definitely a SAn
[09:15] <lllmanulll> Hi there, seems that apt-get build-dep fails on any package I try... Any idea what might cause that ?
[09:15] <squid0> Hendric: http://ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[09:15] <imc> Anyone on my port forwarding woes ?
[09:16] <squid0> imc: great!
[09:17] <kbrooks> I need some X help.
[09:17] <Hendric> squid0: some silly slackers defined ubuntu differently... lol
[09:17] <squid0> Hendric: yes?
[09:17] <squid0> what, on that site?
[09:17] <kbrooks> I am using ... X with no mouse, and have pressed shift+numlock. When I move the cursor (numpad number keys), it does not move as fast as gdm did.
[09:18] <kbrooks> Any ideas?
[09:18] <squid0> well... why no mouse?
[09:18] <Hendric> squid0: found it on a forum.. "ubuntu" is an ancient african word meanng, "i can't configure slackware".
[09:18] <kbrooks> squid0, That isn't really important.
[09:18] <squid0> lol that's a good one
[09:18] <squid0> ok
[09:19] <Krneki> any specialist for mail server please help
[09:19] <kbrooks> Get to the point please. ;)
[09:19] <Burke> Hendric, LOL.
[09:19] <squid0> umm... all i can give you is an educated estimate.
[09:19] <Hendric> silly slackers...
[09:19] <kbrooks> squid0, go on
[09:20] <kbrooks> squid0, well?
[09:20] <squid0> kbrooks: i have very little experience with x, i'm sorry to disappoint you. I'm just offering you my thinking power... i'll do what i can.
[09:20] <squid0> kbrooks: can you describe what the problem is?
[09:20] <kbrooks> squid0, I will try anything to make the cursor be faster.
[09:21] <adjacent> Hendric: thats hilarious actually =)
[09:21] <kbrooks> squid0, I already did.
[09:21] <squid0> right.
[09:21] <squid0> umm... maybe configure your keyboard, for a faster repeat rate on a depressed key?
[09:22] <kbrooks> And how do I do that?
[09:22] <squid0> are you using ubuntu?
[09:22] <kbrooks> Yes.
[09:22] <squid0> ok. System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[09:23] <squid0> Keyboard tab; play with the sliders
[09:23] <Hendric> can be... "ubuntu" is an ancient african word meaning, "why suffer with slackware?"
[09:23] <squid0> Hendric: but that *is* what it means! ;)
[09:23] <Hendric> hihi
[09:23] <NeverDream> does Breezy come with ndiswrapper?
[09:24] <squid0> kbrooks: any joy?
[09:24] <HappyFool> NeverDream: maybe packages.ubuntu.com will tell you
[09:24] <kbrooks> squid0, Nope, a google search i tried ages ago..erm, got me zero revelant results
[09:24] <NeverDream> HappyFool: thanks :)
[09:25] <squid0> kbrooks: did you try what I said?
[09:25] <Hendric> squid0: oh, doe the website http://www.sun.ac.za/ using the african language?
[09:25] <ryufreak> !info ati
[09:25] <ryufreak> !ati
[09:25] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[09:25] <kbrooks> squid0, Yes.
[09:25] <occy> What is Colony 5?
[09:26] <squid0> Hendric: no, but it is based on a South African university campus (Stellenbosch), and is just to show you some picture of SAns using ubuntu
[09:26] <squid0> kbrooks: :(
[09:26] <HappyFool> occy: a preview release of breezy, i think
[09:27] <occy> ahh
[09:27] <occy> So it's not Breezy final?
[09:27] <HappyFool> no; that will be released october 13, or thereabouts
[09:27] <cs_DK> Colony 5 is built after Breezy Preview, its newer
[09:27] <occy> topic says it's out, but official release will be october 13
[09:27] <occy> ahh
[09:27] <occy> okies, sorry, just confusing for my wee tiny brain
[09:28] <occy> come on October 13th!!!
[09:28] <delire> Hendric: ;)
[09:28] <twysted> hey squid0 having problems again?
[09:28] <Hendric> delire: yaps?
[09:28] <occy> can't wait to get the new Gnome 2.12
[09:29] <cs_DK> too bad that Breezy freezes my mouse
 can be... "ubuntu" is an ancient african word meaning, "why suffer with slackware?"
[09:29] <cs_DK> because of the new kernel
[09:29] <kbrooks> Does ubuntu have builtin quota ... handling?
[09:29] <squid0> hey twysted. not really problems, i've been helped well
[09:29] <twysted> cool :)
[09:29] <La_PaRCa> Hey guys, can anyone paste the sources.list that comes default with breezy?
[09:30] <Hendric> delire: revised it for some silly slackers, lol :D
[09:30] <delire> Hendric: ;)
[09:30] <squid0> it is. what a great resource! help and be helped (or try )
[09:31] <delire> squid0: there's faith for humanity yet... ;)
[09:31] <squid0> delire: well, i like to think so :)
[09:31] <danwsb> Hi, I'm having trouble with remote printing to CUPS on an ubuntu box. My cupsd.conf was working properly until this morning. Now I just get errors from pam_authenticate indicating an authentication failure.
[09:31] <delire> squid0: have you seen #infinite-wealth ?
[09:31] <delire> also a great channel. plenty of help in there.
[09:31] <squid0> delire: no, what's it about
[09:32] <n00bster> i'm looking for a system restore utilitie, similar to that one in win (restore)
[09:32] <esac> i installed w32codecs but there seems to be some .wmv files that still don't play, any ideas ?
[09:32] <kbrooks> n00bster, backups are system restore
[09:33] <twysted> n00bster, backups, there is some software out there but it costs alot of money and isnt ment for home use :)
[09:33] <n00bster> can you expand on that?
[09:33] <ompaul> random sig 11
[09:33] <esac> ^^ those files claim they are asf
[09:33] <squid0> delire: my, that channel's too busy for me
[09:33] <Paradoxx> how stable is breez atm
[09:33] <twysted> so its just easyer to make manual backups of your files to cd or dvd
[09:33] <Huey> where are the startup scripts stored for certain sessions when a user logs in via gdm?
[09:33] <kbrooks> Paradoxx, not stable. wait.
[09:34] <twysted> Paradoxx, its still in testing
[09:34] <n00bster> i see, so is there en ekwivilent software to "Norton Ghost"
[09:34] <Huey> and is there a way for a user to change these settings without root access?
[09:34] <delire> squid0: ;)
[09:34] <Paradoxx> how stable is breezy atm?
[09:34] <FrdPrefct> works great for me
[09:34] <twysted> its not stable paradoxx
[09:34] <funkyHat> for me - stable as a tree
[09:34] <delire> n00bster: i use system-imager
[09:34] <twysted> its still in testing
[09:35] <twysted> so quit asking, just wait
[09:35] <esac> Paradoxx: you could get lucky like me and its very stable, but others have a few issues
[09:35] <funkyHat> but i've tweaked a lot
[09:35] <Hendric> n00bster: better use the win version on a bootable diskette.. works with linux as well
[09:35] <n00bster> i see.. i wonder it nortoon ghost works on ext3 partitions
[09:35] <funkyHat> it's not worth upgrading unless you know enough, or don't mind it being broken
[09:35] <esac> that's true, ive tweaked a lot too. running a custom kernel to prevent it from freezing on reboot
[09:35] <ompaul> Paradoxx, I am having issues - if you can't take any pain wait until 13th October
[09:35] <funkyHat> (for me it was a bit of both ;))
[09:35] <Paradoxx> twysted:  i understand its still in testing...jeez, but the nature of my question recognises that, and asks how useable it is..
[09:35] <ompaul> Paradoxx, if you can't take risk wait
[09:35] <n00bster> what windows vertion ?
[09:36] <Paradoxx> twysted: particularly, since they now have it on there site as a pre-release...
[09:36] <n00bster> norton ghost works on linux ?
[09:36] <ionrock> Paradoxx, I think you question makes sense but without knowing what you are using it for makes it hard to answer
[09:36] <Hendric> n00bster: the old one... 7 i think
[09:36] <ompaul> Paradoxx, which indicates not release
[09:36] <delire> n00bster: but it's a client server setup. there are many backup/restore utilities. just 'apt-cache search backup restore' and 'apt-cache show <packagename>' to read about each.
[09:36] <n00bster> mm... grate !! i got it :}
[09:37] <Hendric> n00bster: you boot on a dos format floppy and ghost from there.
[09:37] <Paradoxx> ompaul: you can get a prerelease of a music cd, and that just means you get it b4, its set release date..
[09:37] <twysted> Paradoxx this isnt like a cd
[09:37] <twysted> its still being developed
[09:37] <Hendric> n00bster: only the cloned drive won't boot and shows up "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB"
[09:37] <n00bster> yah, like i do in win
[09:37] <Paradoxx> *sigh*, its an anology..
[09:37] <ionrock> Paradoxx, I would assume you plan on using it for general desktop tasks on a desktop machine. I had been using it on laptop and had few problems. but I also didn't mind it breaking and reinstalling
[09:37] <ompaul> Paradoxx, you get prerelease software it aint ready for the general public there are tasks to be done
[09:37] <n00bster> what do you mean ?
[09:38] <Hendric> n00bster: so better boot on your ubuntu CD, type: rescue then grub-intsall /dev/hda to fix it
[09:38] <Davey> why the hell are the ndiswrappers not included on the damn LiveCD? :/
[09:38] <ionrock> ompaul, one could argue that folks in irc aren't really general public users ;)
[09:38] <Hendric> *grub-install
[09:38] <ompaul> Paradoxx, _and_ I said if you can take a little pain go for it- if you can't don't as for what level of pain that depends on your luck
[09:38] <Paradoxx> the concept can go eitherway, i'm just used to that type of s/w being called alph or beta builds...
[09:39] <squid0> the Union soundfont takes ages. i think the server is clogged. any alternatives, perhaps?
[09:39] <twysted> Paradoxx, its a beta then ;)
[09:39] <n00bster> Hendric, i lost you there about GRUB.. can you recap?
[09:39] <Trash[sleep] > paradoxx: you've clearly never been on a development team
[09:39] <ompaul> ionrock, being on irc does not indicate clue - sure, I'm, here :)
[09:39] <Paradoxx> yea, its not for me, and friend of mine gonna try linux, and he asked which version he should get, as both links are there, i was surprised to see they have it there as a prerelease, cause i know its still undertesting..
[09:39] <n00bster> you ware saing that i can use en older dos based ghoste?
[09:40] <twysted> paradoxx just get the official release your friend will be happy with it :)
[09:40] <Trashcan> software that isn't marked as 'stable' probably isn't
[09:40] <Paradoxx> thats  what i told him
[09:40] <ompaul> Paradoxx, here is what you do give them 5.04 hoary and then they can learn all about distupgrade on the day
[09:40] <Trashcan> is this discussion over breezy/hedgehog?
[09:40] <Paradoxx> then  u figured i'd just pop over here, and ask how the devewas going..
[09:41] <Paradoxx> dev was*
[09:41] <Hendric> n00bster: when you ghost a linux drive (using any ghost version that supports linux partitions), the cloned drives boot loader is messed up. so you need to rescue it, inorder to fix the boot error on the new cloned drive.
[09:41] <bartp> hi
[09:41] <Trashcan> I'm not speaking for the devs, but afaik breezy is mostly small bugs and incompatibilities at this point
[09:41] <Trashcan> hey bart
[09:41] <ompaul> what are the properties of the logon screen setup program?
[09:41] <kbrooks> "The emulated movement is *very* slow, but you can increase its speed considerably by pressing any other key while moving. "
[09:42] <bartp> hi Trashcan
[09:42] <Paradoxx> i haven't had time to test brezy myself, so i wasn't sure where it was, and thus my question about how stable it was..
[09:42] <Trashcan> ahh well that's a valid question
[09:42] <n00bster> and i do that from ubuntu CD ?
[09:42] <Mazrim> hi all
[09:42] <twysted> n00bster, yes
[09:42] <Mazrim> I have a problem
[09:42] <Paradoxx> Mazrim: just ask :P
[09:42] <Trashcan> Assuming he doesn't know his way around a linux box too well, he probably doens't want to be tracking down problems when his network card doesn't work, etc.
[09:42] <kbrooks> grrr.
[09:42] <n00bster> ok, i undertand :}
[09:42] <Hendric> n00bster: yes you rescue from the ubuntu CD.
[09:43] <n00bster> ok, i undertand :}
[09:43] <Paradoxx> Trashcan: yep yep..
[09:43] <Trashcan> but to answer your question, breezy is fairly complete functionality wise
[09:43] <ray4jc> Does the Default Ubuntu Partitioning work?
[09:43] <thrice`> where is w32codecs residing these days ?
[09:44] <Trashcan> I havn't noticed any real problems as of yet
[09:44] <n00bster> if we'r talking about GRUB, i want to disable the 8 second ttl screen, how can i do it?
[09:44] <funkyHat> !restrictedformats
[09:44] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[09:44] <funkyHat> thrice`, ^there
[09:44] <ray4jc> It has no boot partition,
[09:44] <thrice`> funkyHat, ah, ok; I noticed the origial mirror was removed
[09:45] <Mazrim> Paradoxx: I have just updated to Breezy, and I have 1 update that won't work, linuximagesomthing
[09:45] <funkyHat> i don't know, i got it from backports and my policy was disable backports immediately after installing from it
[09:45] <funkyHat> and now i'm on breezy, so no backports
[09:45] <n00bster> if we'r talking about GRUB, i want to disable the 8 second limitationm to chuse a system (dual boot)
[09:45] <Mazrim> it throws an error about ndiswrapper
[09:45] <Mazrim> and not being able to be overwritten
[09:46] <funkyHat> n00bster, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the wait to... um... possibly -1
[09:46] <funkyHat> it will probably tell you what to change it to
[09:46] <ompaul> funkyHat,  there can't be any until dapper gets under development
[09:46] <funkyHat> i'm not bothered ompaul :)
[09:47] <ompaul> funkyHat,  just an explaination, the backports for hoary are from breezy
[09:47] <funkyHat> no backports isn't an issue
[09:47] <funkyHat> yeah :)
[09:47] <n00bster> ok, tty, i'll tray it.
[09:47] <n00bster> ty*
[09:48] <tehwizard> heya, anyone had luck doing apt-get dist-upgrade to switch to breezy?
[09:48] <Paradoxx> Mazrim: you should probably try a apt-get dis-upgrade
[09:48] <Paradoxx> and see if that fixes the issues
[09:48] <Paradoxx> also, as stated awhile ago, you should also disable backports if you have it enabled...
[09:49] <funkyHat> tehwizard, yes. i'm generally a very lucky person though, i wouldn't recommend it ;)
[09:49] <funkyHat> until breezy is released
[09:49] <funkyHat> c'mon, it's 2 weeks, just wait :P
[09:49] <Seveas> But it's so much fun :)
[09:49] <tehwizard> lol right on... well, I did it, and I've got a few problems... surprise :-P
[09:49] <funkyHat> hehehehe
[09:50] <tehwizard> what? wait? what's that??
[09:50] <funkyHat> i only got problems with some of the new packages (like beagle)
[09:50] <rukuartic> anyone know how to edit your MAC address?
[09:50] <delire> rukuartic: for a wifi device?
[09:51] <n00bster> is it that line on GRUB "timeout		10"
[09:51] <grgcsmc> how do i log in as root?
[09:51] <Trashcan> sudo -i
[09:51] <Trashcan> !root
[09:51] <ubotu> from memory, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:52] <grgcsmc> how do i install gnome files?
[09:52] <grgcsmc> gnome-sudoku
[09:52] <Trashcan> who asked abotu the mac addr
[09:52] <Mazrim> dis-upgrade - Invalid OPeration dis upgrade
[09:52] <Trashcan> /etc/init.d/networking stop
[09:52] <rukuartic> delire: exactly. why bother encryptiong when you can just run selective MAC?
[09:52] <Trashcan> ifconfig etho0 hw ether xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[09:52] <Trashcan> /etc/init.d/networking start
[09:52] <delire> just use ifconfig rukuartic
[09:52] <tehwizard> I need to compile custom kernel modules for my wireless, and for whatever reason it's saying /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.
[09:52] <MikkelK> I really like the graphical boot sequence Fedora has. Is there a way to get something similar for Ubuntu?
[09:53] <delire> rukuartic: set it up per session in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:53] <rukuartic> delire: Ah, so ipconfig is much better than the windows version...
[09:53] <tehwizard> I've tried reinstalling linux-kernel-headers and stuff, but not working
[09:53] <tehwizard> anyone got a suggestion?
[09:53] <Trashcan> yeah rukuartic
[09:53] <Trashcan> ifconfig is actually useful now
[09:53] <delire> rukuartic: sorry, set it up per session or permanently in /etc/network/interfaces.
[09:53] <Trashcan> (note it's ifconfig, not ipconfig)
[09:53] <rukuartic> Awesome
[09:53] <rukuartic> h/u brb...
[09:53] <rukuartic> oh, thanks Trashcan
[09:53] <twysted> !bootsplash
[09:53] <delire> rukuartic: ifconfig is powerfull, iwconfig also.
[09:53] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, twysted
[09:54] <funkyHat> twysted, what do you want to know about the splash screen?
[09:54] <funkyHat> !usplash
[09:54] <ubotu> somebody said usplash was in Breezy: sudo apt-get install usplash, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[09:54] <Trashcan> grahpic boot
[09:54] <Trashcan> graphic*
[09:54] <twysted> trying to point MikkelK in the right direction
[09:54] <cs_DK> !usplash
[09:54] <funkyHat> cs_DK, ^
[09:54] <MikkelK> :O
[09:55] <n00bster> is the GRUB menu.lst line that i need to edit is  "timeout  10" ?? and if what number reprisent disabl timeout ?
[09:55] <Seveas> n00bster, timeout 0 would disable it
[09:55] <Snark> where do I report bugs on universe packages ?
[09:55] <Seveas> Snark, launchpad.net/malone
[09:55] <Vengeful> hi again
[09:55] <Mazrim> ok ready Paradoxx, heres the error linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.6_i386.deb
[09:55] <Mazrim>  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:56] <ompaul> n00bster, I suggest you leave a second or two in there there - so you can press esc if you need to go into rescue mode
[09:56] <Mazrim> and how do you disable backport?
[09:56] <kevogod> Has anyone played America's Army?
[09:56] <kevogod> (on Ubuntu)
[09:56] <Vengeful> yes..never in linux though :-)
[09:56] <Vengeful> hehe
[09:56] <funkyHat> n00bster, are you trying to disable it, so that the selected option will boot immediately, or so that it will wait indefinitely?
[09:56] <Mazrim> !backport
[09:56] <ubotu> backport is, like, see !backports
[09:56] <MikkelK> twysted, damn that looks complicated
[09:56] <Vengeful> linux is not for gamers...few years off yet :-)
[09:56] <Mazrim> !backports
[09:56] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[09:56] <Snark> Seveas: hmmm...
[09:56] <rukuartic-away> right, awesome. thanks everyone.
[09:57] <Chinaman> can anyone help me with an RAR file?
[09:57] <Chinaman> i have 5 RAR files
[09:57] <Seveas> Chinaman, apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[09:57] <Chinaman> in windows they open as one file
[09:57] <Seveas> unrar x filename.rar
[09:57] <funkyHat> MikkelK, what's complicated about it?
[09:57] <funkyHat> you just apt-get install it, and it works
[09:57] <delire> Vengeful: i play plenty of games in Linux, uncluding windows games.
[09:57] <LasseL> Mazrim, go into the Settings > Repositories menu in synaptic
[09:57] <n00bster> so that it will wait indefinitely !
[09:57] <Vengeful> yes but why?
[09:57] <funkyHat> i thought so
[09:58] <Mazrim> ok
[09:58] <Mazrim> thank you
[09:58] <Vengeful> why go to so much trouble?
[09:58] <grgcsmc> where is the command line
[09:58] <delire> Vengeful: i haven't run windows in around 8 years and don't intend to.
[09:58] <funkyHat> n00bster, there will probably be instructions in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file on how to do that
[09:58] <Mazrim> any thoughts on my problem? also, it says dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.6_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:58] <Mazrim>  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-386
[09:58] <Mazrim> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[09:58] <Mazrim> sry about the paste
[09:58] <Vengeful> never hurts to have a comp with windows on for certain mmorpg....and any other game is covered by a console
[09:58] <n00bster> funkyHat - so that it will wait indefinitely !
[09:58] <Vengeful> id like to think linux is good for gamers...but it is a few years off
[09:59] <n00bster> ty, i'll look for that .
[09:59] <Vengeful> i would love it if it was true...but it's not
[09:59] <twysted> Vengeful there are plenty of games that now run on linux or can be emulated to run on linux, linux gamers exist
[09:59] <[LethAL] > Vengeful, I'm one of them
[09:59] <grgcsmc> where is the command line?
[09:59] <[LethAL] > :D
[09:59] <twysted> i was too when i played games
[09:59] <MikkelK> funkyHat, okay, it just looked complicated at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[09:59] <[LethAL] > twysted, Yeah, I've come off them somewhat as well
[09:59] <Chinaman> seveas: thx
[10:00] <Seveas> Mazrim, yeah, get rid of ndiswrapper-modules-*
[10:00] <Seveas> and don't paste in here
[10:00] <twysted> when i come around ill prolly reinstall linux again but not until i quit this job hehe
[10:00] <funkyHat> MikkelK, ahh, ok
[10:00] <Mazrim> Seveas: unistall or just delete from cache
[10:00] <Vengeful> oh of course you can get them working...i used to play CS in mandrake hehe
[10:01] <Vengeful> i just dont see the point
[10:01] <Seveas> Mazrim, uninstall
[10:01] <Vengeful> when its obvious to many game makers wont support it :-)
[10:01] <Seveas> Vengeful and others, please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this a support channel
[10:01] <twysted> hehe
[10:01] <Vengeful> ah sorry ;-)
[10:01] <delire> Vengeful: Linux just needs more forward thinking developers like John Carmack, Rockstar games and bioware.
[10:02] <Vengeful> oh i know
[10:02] <Vengeful> its just some years off
[10:02] <Seveas> delire, you too
[10:02] <delire> Seveas: fair enough..
[10:02] <twysted> guys
[10:02] <[LethAL] > Seveas, you wouldn't happen to know why it would appear that tor exit nodes are banned, would you?
[10:02] <Seveas> [LethAL] , abuse overdoes
[10:02] <Seveas> overdose*
[10:02] <LasseL> delire, will GTA run on linux?
[10:02] <Trashcan> hey seveas :)
[10:02] <Seveas> hey garbage
[10:02] <Mazrim> Seveas: but then no wi-fi?
[10:02] <Trashcan> :9
[10:02] <Trashcan> :(
[10:03] <[LethAL] > Seveas, Surely there are much better ways though...
[10:03] <twysted> Lassel, yes with winex
[10:03] <Snark> bug filed
[10:03] <Seveas> Mazrim, linux-restricted-modules contains ndiswrapper too
[10:03] <Snark> thanks
[10:03] <Snark> ciao
[10:03] <Mazrim> oh
[10:03] <Mazrim> ok, thank you
[10:03] <oris_wolfbane> hey guys, whats the path to qt?
[10:03] <dell500> for some reason from switching over to gnome from kde, i've lost my Documents folder on my desktop.....
[10:04] <Seveas> oris_wolfbane, that question makes no sense without context...
[10:04] <dell500> could that happen?
[10:04] <[LethAL] > dell500, Highly unlikely...
[10:04] <drunken-wallaby> hi everyone...
[10:04] <twysted> hey dell500
[10:04] <twysted> what happend when you loaded kde? where they there?
[10:05] <oris_wolfbane> im compiling somthing and it cant find qt
[10:05] <oris_wolfbane> but says to use ./configure --with-qt-dir
[10:05] <dell500> twysted, ya they were
[10:05] <twysted> ok do this dell500
[10:05] <twysted> copy that documents folder right into your home directory
[10:05] <Seveas> oris_wolfbane, what are you compiling?
[10:06] <dell500> I mean i have 4 folders on my desktop, Pictures, New Torrents, and Ripped CDs, and Documents
[10:06] <twysted> ok move those into your home directory then
[10:06] <oris_wolfbane> GoFun
[10:06] <dell500> twysted, i'm confused, it's no where to be found
[10:06] <dell500> the folder that is
[10:06] <twysted> youll have to do this in KDE
[10:07] <tehwizard> oris_wolfbane, open synaptic and search for 'libqt'
[10:07] <drunken-wallaby> got a little problem when i try to build a little latex-gui called amyedit (amyedit.sourceforge.net). the "make" step breaks because of errors such as (/usr/include/libintl.h:40: Error: expected unqualified-id before "const"). Anyone who has a hint what I could do?
[10:07] <tehwizard> see if you've got libqt installed
[10:07] <dell500> twysted, what if i can't get in kde? :(
[10:07] <Seveas> oris_wolfbane, install the kdelibs4-dev and kdebase-dev packages
[10:07] <dell500> with the xorg config i have now
[10:07] <oris_wolfbane> thanks
[10:07] <Seveas> drunken-wallaby, that software is broken, file a bug at the developers that it won't compile :)
[10:08] <Vengeful> more linux in general than ubuntu...gaim is kinda...erm..ugly. amsn is kinda ..hmm...crashy
[10:08] <twysted> dell500, you should have an option too, even in gnome you can set it to change GDM to load into kde instead of gnome
[10:08] <Vengeful> whatcha recommend?
[10:08] <twysted> gaim
[10:08] <Vengeful> tis ugly though
[10:09] <Seveas> Vengeful, MSN7 + wine ;)
[10:09] <twysted> hehe
[10:09] <delire> oris_wolfbane: once libqt is installed, run 'sudo ldconfig' then 'whereis <qtpackagename>' choose the lib path, and use --configure --with-qt-dir=/path/to/qtlibs
[10:09] <Vengeful> ergh
[10:09] <Vengeful> never
[10:09] <dell500> twysted, the login screen setup?
[10:09] <twysted> dell500 yes
[10:09] <kbrooks> Seveas, i have a game on cd. but its win32 only :'(
[10:09] <Seveas> kbrooks, try if it works with wine ;)
[10:09] <twysted> kbrooks you can use wine :)
[10:09] <[LethAL] > Vengeful, you won't get MSN 7.5
[10:10] <Vengeful> btw....curious if anyone uses ubuntu for servers?
[10:10] <kbrooks> Seveas, cant install it now
[10:10] <delire> oris_wolfbane: you will need to grab the -dev packages as the compilation process relies on 'header files' being on board.
[10:10] <twysted> vengeful i do
[10:10] <Vengeful> oh?
[10:10] <Seveas> Vengeful, I have ~30 servers running Ubuntu :)
[10:10] <Karnivore> do you guys know about the wu-2.6.2 exploit? actually I think thats just for RedHat
[10:10] <flickerfly|home> Is there a known issue with firefox starting, but not showing on the screen? I have uninstalled and reinstalled firefox with no change. epiphany seems to have worked.
[10:10] <[LethAL] > Vengeful, I'd recommend Debian Stable
[10:10] <Kirsch> hey guys, any idea on the ATI Mobility driver with Breezy?
[10:10] <Vengeful> how does it do?
[10:10] <Vengeful> ah..hmm..
[10:10] <tehwizard> so dudes, got a support question for anyone familiar with breezy... (i did a dist-upgrade). I need to compile custom kernel modules for my wireless, and for whatever reason it's saying "/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory." I had previously compiled them fine for hoary. I've re-installed linux-kernel-headers, but no go. anybody got a suggestion for me? why would compiling break when I upgraded to breezy?
[10:10] <twysted> it does well :)
[10:10] <Vengeful> currently only offer freebsd and centos
[10:10] <Seveas> Karnivore, not by heart, CVE reference?
[10:11] <Seveas> Ubuntu works very nice on servers
[10:11] <Karnivore> Here's the link to it http://www.governmentsecurity.org/archive/t6358.html
[10:11] <Seveas> tehwizard, install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:11] <kbrooks> Seveas, but you would never use GUI
[10:11] <twysted> vengeful, currently offer? who?
[10:11] <Vengeful> ah il pm..dont like to spam
[10:11] <twysted> ok
[10:11] <Seveas> kbrooks, I use gui all the time, even on a few of my servers :)
[10:12] <kbrooks> Seveas, why?
[10:12] <Seveas> (I'm a terminal junkie though, using GUI on these servers is for testing freenx)
[10:12] <Zoohouse> hello everyone
[10:13] <mumbles> lo
[10:13] <Seveas> hi
[10:13] <Karnivore> I was just wondering about it Serveas
[10:13] <Zoohouse> Quick question, Can I update ubuntu 5.04 to the latest ver. via synaptic?
[10:13] <kbrooks> Zoohouse, yes, but don't do it right now
[10:13] <tehwizard> Seveas, you're right, it looks like that didn't get upgraded. I didn't know that was different from linux-kernel-headers. I'll try it.
[10:13] <Zoohouse> kbrooks, why?
[10:13] <GNULinuxer> kbrooks: is breezy stable now?
[10:13] <kbrooks> Zoohouse, breezy is NOT stable atm
[10:13] <tehwizard> thx!
[10:14] <Seveas> Karnivore, wu-ftpd is crap and not really supported
[10:14] <GNULinuxer> damn!
[10:14] <kbrooks> GNULinuxer, nope
[10:14] <esac> did anybody else upgrade last night and notice that their network/wireless performance increased? i used to have issues playing a video file across the lan, but after last nights upgrade those issues disappeared
[10:14] <Zoohouse> kbrooks, got it
[10:14] <epp> when i start xfce arts starts... and while its running i cant start esd... how can i make arts kill at startup and esd run?
[10:14] <GNULinuxer> kbrooks: what are the issues?
[10:14] <Chousuke> wait until official release :P
[10:14] <Chousuke> it's not far away
[10:14] <Zoohouse> kbrooks, How would I go about doing it once it is stable?
[10:14] <Karnivore> Seveas, my uni uses wu-ftpd, does that mean they are vulnerable to the exploit? I might want to tell them about it
[10:14] <Seveas> Karnivore, but afair this has been fixed/did not apply to ubunt
[10:14] <dell500> what is the Multimedia Systems Selector for, what's default sink and source?
[10:14] <drunken-wallaby> seveas: which software. amyedit or libintl.h ?
[10:14] <kbrooks> GNULinuxer, i'm not an ubuntu dev, but look at the mailing list
[10:15] <Seveas> Karnivore, that will depend on the version of wu
[10:15] <Zoohouse> Another question, I just ran Make on GMC, how do I strip all the debuging stuff from the build?
[10:15] <Seveas> drunken-wallaby, amyedit
[10:15] <Karnivore> 2.6.2
[10:15] <Karnivore> Version wu-2.6.2(1)
[10:15] <kbrooks> Zoohouse, strip
[10:15] <Seveas> Karnivore, and probably it depends on the compile flags :)
[10:15] <epp> how can i make arts kill at startup and esd run?
[10:15] <Zoohouse> thnax kbrooks
[10:15] <Seveas> or even configuration
[10:16] <Karnivore> exploit is low risk then
[10:16] <kbrooks> epp: uh. do you want arts to be killed when esd runs?
[10:16] <kbrooks> or what?
[10:16] <Seveas> since this LIST thing can be disabled in any decent FTP server (ok, wu-ftpd is not decent)
[10:16] <qzerty> Does anyone know how to install ssl on a mod_perl server
[10:16] <drunken-wallaby> seveas: ok, thx. but it's strange because i did compile prevous versions (namely 0.8) successfully in hoary. now in breezy AND hoary i can't even compile the 0.8 version because of the libint.h error. anyways, thanks for your answer!
[10:16] <qzerty> I have apache-perl installed, and need mod_ssl too
[10:16] <grgcsmc> where can i get a dvd player codec?
[10:17] <epp> kbrooks, just want arts to be killed everytime xfce starts then have esd run.
[10:17] <TiMiDo> grgcsmc try sudo apt-cache search dvd
[10:17] <imc_> Anyone use sing (Send ICMP nasty garbage) ?
[10:17] <epp> kbrooks, i dont have to do it maually every startup
[10:17] <epp> so i dont have to do it manually
[10:17] <epp> sry
[10:17] <grgcsmc> im not that good with open source
[10:17] <imc_> I'm trying to find a source for it.
[10:17] <Seveas> drunken-wallaby, breezy uses gcc4
[10:18] <kbrooks> epp: well, i dont know... BUT ... anyway....
[10:18] <Seveas> gcc4 is MUCH stricter
[10:18] <kbrooks> *thinks*
[10:18] <MikkelK> funkyHat, that didn't give me any bootsplash (?)
[10:18] <imc_> Anyone use sing (Send ICMP nasty garbage) ?
[10:19] <drunken-wallaby> seveas: ok, thx a lot...
[10:19] <funkyHat> MikkelK, oh. it should have done :(
[10:19] <esac> is there a howto/doc for creating a .deb package for use with dpkg and apt ?
[10:19] <kbrooks> (while pgrep artsd; kill -1 arts; # code to run esd here) &
[10:20] <epp> where is the file that runs commands at startup?
[10:20] <MikkelK> funkyHat, i shouldn't do anything but "apt-get install usplash" right?
[10:20] <twysted>  epp /etc/init.d/
[10:20] <Zoohouse> kbrooks, should I run strip -s or strip -d ?
[10:20] <grgcsmc> Timido: i got alot of things, where do i get em
[10:20] <kbrooks> twysted, file
[10:20] <twysted> the files are in there :p
[10:20] <tritium> esac, read the debian new maintainer's guide
[10:20] <funkyHat> MikkelK, you shouldn't need to do anything but that no
[10:20] <twysted> those are all the services that start on boot
[10:20] <epp> twysted, thx man
[10:20] <kbrooks> Zoohouse, -s strips EVERYTHING. -d then
[10:20] <delire> Seveas: i'm having a hard time coming to terms with gcc-4.0.*
[10:21] <esac> tritium: i take it i can just search for that on msn search ?
[10:21] <tritium> esac, apt-get intsall maint-guide-en (for the english version).  apt-cache search maint-guide for other languages
[10:21] <delire> Seveas: gcc-3.* was so sympathetic ;)
[10:21] <epp> twysted, how do i edit init.d
[10:21] <esac> tritium: thanks :)
[10:21] <tritium> sure
[10:21] <imc_> Okay, Im having problems with installing a .deb file I downloaded: I'm doing sudo apt-get install ~/path/file.deb
[10:21] <tritium> epp, init.d is a directory in which the initscripts are held
[10:21] <xiaowen> What's the definition of what goes into contrib versus main?
[10:21] <delire> epp: use update-rc.d
[10:21] <Seveas> imc_, sudo dpkg -i path/to/deb
[10:21] <tritium> yes, delire has the right advice
[10:21] <imc_> DOH1
[10:21] <imc_> Thanks, Seveas
[10:21] <ompaul> anyone care to give the command line from the properties of the 'login setup screen' ? I want to run it in a terminal in X, I just can't get into gnome atm - this info will help
[10:22] <Zoohouse> The command is strip <option> <file> is the file the package name or i have to type in the bin?
[10:22] <Seveas> ompaul, sudo gdmsetup
[10:22] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks
[10:22] <epp> delire, i want to add a command that stops arts. how do i do that?
[10:22] <ootput> is it common to have ~ 420 updates upon first logging in to a fresh Breezy system?
[10:22] <TiMiDo> ootput yes it is normal
[10:23] <epp> ootput, probly... its a new version with probly alot of bugs.
[10:23] <ompaul> Seveas, if you promise not to laugh: Could not access GDM configuration file.
[10:23] <Seveas> ootput, depends on how old your install cd is
[10:23] <ootput> alright, preview
[10:23] <Seveas> but it's very well possible, breezy is being developed actively
[10:23] <Seveas> ootput, then 420 is ok
[10:23] <r0d> does anyone have a good link to compiler error troubles?
[10:23] <joe_alf> i installed sun java using fakeroot make-jpkg then dpkg -i jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin. It install fine. The question is when i try to issue the command 'which java' it return '/usr/bin/java' then '/usr/bin/java -version' it returned  'java version "1.4.2"
[10:23] <joe_alf> '.
[10:23] <Seveas> ompaul, using sudo?
[10:23] <ompaul> Seveas,  yes
[10:23] <Seveas> joe_alf, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:23] <Seveas> joe_alf, sudo update-alternatives --config javac
[10:24] <Seveas> joe_alf, sudo update-alternatives --config jar
[10:24] <joe_alf> Seveas, i'll try that. thanks
[10:25] <delire> epp: sorry, phone.. 'update-rc.d artsd remove' or similar
[10:25] <rendered_one> Hey everyone
[10:25] <ompaul> Seveas, I've gone to the man page :) back in an hour or two
[10:25] <Zoohouse> Ah, I can just run make install-strip
[10:26] <imc_> Thanks Seveas
[10:26] <epp> Seveas, how do i stop arts from running at startup?
[10:26] <delire> epp: sorry, phone.. 'update-rc.d artsd remove' or similar
[10:26] <Tiggs> you can remove arts and use alsa instead
[10:26] <tritium> epp, read the manpage on update-rc.d for more details
[10:27] <Tiggs> how do i do tv out with my nvidia card? install nvtv but it crashes with semeent faunt
[10:27] <Concord_Dawn> Does anyone know a way to list installed apt-get packages?
[10:27] <epp> isnt there a text file i can edit that runs commands aT START?
[10:27] <stianh> Hey guys, I just installed my printer, cups recognises the driver and so on, and it queues the job when I try to print something, but nothing comes out and the job just stays there trying to print. Any suggestions on what to look at? I get no errors. It's a Lexmark printer, with non-official drivers
[10:28] <Tiggs> wheni boot tv out does clone up untill x starts then the tv goes blank
[10:28] <stianh> oh and yeah, I used alien to conver rpm's to debs for the drivers
[10:28] <Karnivore> I cant use Ubuntu with a powerbook because it wont use the touchpad, that sucks
[10:28] <kbrooks> How do I use GNOME to switch to another workspace?
[10:28] <Seveas> Concord_Dawn, dpkg -l
[10:28] <Seveas> Concord_Dawn, KILL THAT SCRIPT NOW
[10:29] <esac> what script ?
[10:29] <Seveas> auto-reply
[10:29] <dell500> anyone know how to bring bad a file that was deleted possible?
[10:29] <esac> ah
[10:29] <esac> kbrooks: i assume you mean using the keyboard ?
[10:30] <Seveas> anyone who runs bots/scripts that send messages in here will be kicked
[10:30] <kbrooks> esac: ?
[10:30] <Seveas> axcept for cafuego/ubotu :)
[10:30] <coolkev> how do i turn off the annoying feature in ubuntu, where when u hover over audio files, it begins to play them automatically
[10:30] <kbrooks> esac: responding to what?
[10:30] <esac> kbrooks: you asked how to switch workspaces with gnome .. do you mean how do you switch using the keyboard ?
[10:30] <coolkev> this feature causes crashes in nautlius
[10:30] <kbrooks> esac: yes
[10:30] <Karnivore> Why wouldnt the touchpad work? seems silly
[10:30] <tritium> coolkev, that's a preview function in nautilus.  Check its preferences
[10:30] <esac> kbrooks: i use ctrl+alt+right arrow  or ctrl+alt+left arrow
[10:31] <Silversetsun> Anyone have any experience with cups and an entirely network printer?  I'm having a hell of a time getting my printer to work.
[10:31] <kbrooks> esac: ok
[10:31] <coolkev> tritium, thank you it worked now
[10:31] <esac> why don't we dump totem and package VLC ? vlc is so much better :)
[10:31] <imc_> The age old java-for-firefox question. I just got this: Failed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update02_i386.deb  401 Authorization Required
[10:31] <imc_> any ideas anyone?
[10:31] <tritium> coolkev, good :)
[10:31] <kbrooks> esac: do you like bash scripting? ;)
[10:32] <coolkev> yes I second that idea of VLC
[10:32] <tritium> imc_, build your own
[10:32] <Seveas> esac, vlc is packaged and available from the ubuntu repos...
[10:32] <esac> kbrooks: after 7 years of writing windows batch files and then switching to bash, um, HELL YEA :)
[10:32] <imc_> tritium, sure thing. Can you point me to a guide?
[10:32] <Tiggs> Silversetsun, what is the setup? linux running the printer and another linux box trying to print?
[10:32] <grgcsmc> how would i install something?
[10:32] <Seveas> imc_, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:32] <tritium> !tell imc_ about java
[10:32] <imc_> gracias, tritium
[10:32] <tritium> de nada
[10:32] <kbrooks> esac: your nickname == escape case? ;)
[10:33] <esac> Seveas: yes, but everything is setup with totem by default. nautilus launches with totem by default, totem is installed with the base package by default
[10:33] <coolkev> Oct 13 the new version of Ubuntu, Breeze Badger, Will have a final version ready and released?
[10:33] <Seveas> esac, that's beause totem is the gnome default :)
[10:33] <esac> kbrooks: its mean to be such, yes
[10:33] <esac> Seveas: ah, crappy
[10:33] <Tiggs> grgcsmc, what are you tring to insteall? under system menu, got to administration and look for synaptic
[10:33] <dell500> is it possible to go back to a certain date when my Documents folder was still existent?
[10:33] <kbrooks> esac: why do you like bash scripting? ;)
[10:33] <grgcsmc> its already downloaded
[10:34] <grgcsmc> its dvdread
[10:34] <esac> how do you switch nautilus to use vlc instead of totem ?
[10:34] <Tiggs> you dont see  an icon for it?
[10:34] <esac> kbrooks: have you ever written windows batch files ?
[10:34] <grgcsmc> under synaptic?
[10:34] <kbrooks> esac: Not really, but i've seen some.
[10:35] <mister_roboto> Was someone here asking about ATI Mobility and Breezy earlier?
[10:35] <kbrooks> esac: I don't like errorlevel. $? is so much better
[10:35] <esac> kbrooks: they suck. i wrote so many of them for admin purposes. when i installed slackware in 97 and wrote my first bash script, i was so excited i started using esac as my nick
[10:35] <Tiggs> grgcsmc, im not familiar with the file, is it a program you run or a library to let you read stuff?
[10:35] <grgcsmc> program
[10:35] <kbrooks> esac: Why do you think they suck?
[10:36] <coolkev> Oct 13 the new version of Ubuntu, Breeze Badger, Will have a final version ready and released hopfully??
[10:36] <kbrooks> coolkev, Yes
[10:36] <Tiggs> grgcsmc, know how to open a terminal?
[10:36] <mister_roboto> esac: you don't need to install linux just to get bash. cygwin runs great on windows :)
[10:36] <grgcsmc> ya, but im not good with code
[10:36] <Tiggs> grgcsmc, try typing dvdread into a terminal
[10:36] <coolkev> thos using hoary will have to format to install the new version or what?
[10:36] <grgcsmc> ok
[10:36] <Silversetsun> Tiggs, I'm running ubuntu, and my printer is a network printer.  Connected directly to my network via ethernet.
[10:36] <kbrooks> coolkev, No.
[10:37] <mister_roboto> Kirsch: you there?
[10:37] <coolkev> kbrooks, then how?
[10:37] <kbrooks> coolkev, it's just a simple change of a file and two commands
[10:37] <transparentdream> How can I remote desktop with a friend's computer?
[10:37] <esac> mister_roboto: yes, but its not installed by default, when writing a batch script for systems that are newly setup, its imperative to use what comes with the system as much as possible
[10:37] <grgcsmc> diddnt work
[10:37] <coolkev> ohh
[10:37] <mister_roboto> esac: yeah, i know what you mean. that's why i'm a vi user rather than emacs ;)
[10:37] <Tiggs> grgcsmc,  sorry then I can think of anything else :(
[10:38] <mumbles> as a text editer
[10:38] <coolkev> i already went to the website and ordered the cds
[10:38] <Tiggs> Silversetsun, you cant find the printer? or you just cant print to it?
[10:38] <esac> vi/vim/gvim here myself too
[10:38] <grgcsmc> it came with instructions, but i dont understand em
[10:38] <coolkev> like last week will they ship the new version?
[10:38] <transparentdream> What do i od to remote desktop with a friend's computer?
[10:38] <kbrooks> coolkev, you can use those cds, just put them in and reboot
[10:38] <Tiggs> grgcsmc, what exactly is your goal? are you trying to watch dvd movies or read dvd data disks?
[10:38] <Cryptid> I need dcom98.exe for my wine to function properly so where do i get it from ne 1 got an idea???
[10:38] <grgcsmc> watch
[10:38] <mumbles> esac - sudo wpt-get install joe
[10:39] <kbrooks> coolkev, press enter at the prompt
[10:39] <Tiggs> grgcsmc, oh, mind if i pm you the links to stuff you need?
[10:39] <grgcsmc> ok
[10:39] <Silversetsun> Tiggs, I know the printer's ip address, but I can't print to it for some reason.
[10:39] <coolkev> ohh alright kbooks, this si really good news for me, i didn't wanna back up everything to just install a new version
[10:39] <kbrooks> coolkev, ubuntu isnt windows
[10:40] <coolkev> lol, i'll keep that in mind
[10:40] <coolkev> i been on the windows bad wangon for a long time
[10:40] <coolkev> so i get scared doing things like that
[10:40] <coolkev> band*
[10:40] <joe__> How do I make an ISO?
[10:40] <esac> mumbles: why joe? i LOVE command mode in an editor
[10:40] <kbrooks> coolkev, one year so far ;)
[10:41] <coolkev> fo you?
[10:41] <mumbles> i just prefere it. i cant cope with command mode yet
[10:41] <kbrooks> on linux
[10:41] <joe__> esac: Huh?
[10:41] <kbrooks> yees
[10:41] <coolkev> how do i find out how long i've had ubuntu
[10:41] <joe__> !tell joe__ about iso
[10:41] <dell500> can someone help me with a file i'm missing?? :(
[10:41] <esac> hahaha now that is funny :)
[10:41] <kbrooks> coolkev,  hmm, why do you want that?
[10:42] <coolkev> just wanted to know how long ago i instaleld ubuntu so i know how long i've been using it
[10:42] <P229> coolkev: check timestamps on files, maybe
[10:42] <P229> if you want to be precise, that is
[10:42] <kbrooks> i dunno if that can be reliably grabbed
[10:42] <dooglus> dell500: which one?
[10:42] <coolkev> but don't files get updated and modified
[10:42] <dell500> dooglus, my documents folder
[10:43] <Seveas> coolkev, ls -al /var/log/debian-installer :)
[10:43] <yarddog> i accidently deleted my trash can icon, how can i get that back ? :P
[10:43] <dooglus> dell500: run "mkdir ~/Documents" in a shell?
[10:43] <Seveas> or /var/log/installer if you installed breezy from scratch
[10:43] <coolkev> thanks seveas
[10:43] <dell500> k
[10:43] <Tiggs> back
[10:43] <Seveas>  2005-03-15 11:16 <-- hoary preview :)
[10:43] <kbrooks> 13:55 :P
[10:43] <dooglus> dell500: I don't know if it's called something else in locales other than UK English
[10:43] <P229> does anyone have an audio editing program recommendation other than audacity, or is audacity pretty much the best available?
[10:43] <Seveas> no, it was even warty, didn't have a hoary cd :)
[10:44] <Seveas> but I immediately dist-upgraded :)
[10:44] <coolkev> ls: /var/log/debian-installer: No such file or directory
[10:44] <dell500> dooglus, should i do ~/Desktop/Documents instead, since it was there?
[10:44] <Seveas> or /var/log/installer if you installed breezy from scratch <-- coolkev
[10:44] <Tiggs> Seveas, are you getting any printer error?
[10:44] <kbrooks> Seveas, not there on here
[10:44] <coolkev> no i'm on hoary
[10:44] <P229> yarddog: right click on panel > add to panel
[10:44] <coolkev> installed from hoary cd
[10:44] <dooglus> dell500: no, I don't think so.
[10:45] <Seveas> coolkev, hmm, ls -al /var/log
[10:45] <Seveas> put the output on the pastebin :)
[10:45] <kbrooks> 854 packages is awfully huge ;)
[10:45] <dell500> dooglus, nope... no go
[10:45] <dooglus> dell500: all I know is my Documents folder is in my home directory, not on my desktop
[10:45] <yarddog> P229, thank you sir
[10:45] <Tiggs> Seveas, with my printer you had to install users that were allowed to print, by default not even root was in the printer group
[10:45] <coolkev> using ubuntu since Feburary 14 2005
[10:46] <coolkev> so almost 7 months
[10:46] <P229> yarddog: np
[10:46] <mattyJ> whats the best p2p client for gnome? (gtk2)
[10:47] <spola> gnome-bittorent?
[10:47] <kemik> mattyJ:  skype, gaim, dc++, azureus ....
[10:47] <kemik> lots of p2p clients...
[10:47] <kbrooks> I love gconf.
[10:48] <coolkev> when will the new x-chat update be avaliable for hoary
[10:48] <P229> mattyJ: gnome-btdownload (installed by default) is very nice
[10:48] <mattyJ> gtk2, and i ment like edonkey or similar p2p
[10:48] <Cryptid> I need dcom98.exe for my wine to function properly so where do i get it from ne 1 got an idea???
[10:48] <tritium> coolkev, is there a security issue?
[10:48] <mattyJ> and gnome-btdownload is horible
[10:48] <coolkev> i can check and find out
[10:48] <kbrooks> P229, amule
[10:49] <kbrooks> er
[10:49] <tritium> coolkev, don't expect updates to packages in a stable release, other than for security fixes
[10:49] <P229> mattyJ: ah, for downloading mp3s... just use limewire
[10:49] <qzerty> for mp3s i prefer nicotine
[10:50] <coolkev> tritium, this is from the xchat website:  10-Sep-2005
[10:50] <coolkev>     Released 2.4.5 for Linux/BSD/Unix. This version has been tested on FC4 and FreeBSD 4.11. It's recommended you upgrade to this version for security reasons.
[10:50] <P229> qzerty: yeah, but I quite smoking back in April
[10:50] <P229> quit*
[10:50] <coolkev> so tritium there is a security reason and needs to be added to ubuntu asap
[10:50] <tritium> coolkev, that's not very specific.  What's the vulnerability?
[10:51] <samu2> are there any easy to setup FTP servers?
[10:51] <coolkev> i'm telling you from the website www.xchat.org, you seem to be the expert not me, so maybe you can find out
[10:52] <kbrooks> coolkev, hes not a expert
[10:52] <coolkev> well he prolly knows more then me
[10:52] <P229> has anyone else had trouble with Audacity? i.e., "There was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You will not be able to play or record audio. Error: Host error."
[10:52] <tritium> gee, thanks, kbrooks
[10:53] <dalamar> im on a linux only breezy system now, though i dont want to i need to install windows for school, can I resize my hd and install win and get dual boot working without losing my breezy install/data??
[10:53] <coolkev> i'm a simple user just stating what i read on the official website of xchat
[10:53] <K^Holtz> what is nicotines website? i want to read about it.. i have googled it, but have come up with many different results, not sure which is the correct site
[10:53] <qzerty> wu-ftp isn't bad
[10:53] <kbrooks> tritium, ?
[10:53] <scribbles> E: Couldn't find package libdivx4linux
[10:53] <scribbles> anyone get this?
[10:53] <scribbles> in 5.10
[10:53] <kbrooks> what did i do?!?
[10:53] <qzerty> K^Holtz: Who cares, apt-get install nicotine and try it, slsk port to linux, not a special network
[10:53] <K^Holtz> qzerty im not currently running linux yet
[10:53] <qzerty> K^Holtz: www.slsknet.org for windows client
[10:53] <kbrooks> ?
[10:54] <K^Holtz> thank you
[10:54] <selinium> P229, If you get it up and running, message me and let me konw how!
[10:54] <P229> selinium: audacity? will do
[10:54] <selinium> P229, Cheers!
[10:54] <mattyJ> Fred|Fr3d: how do you get a sever list for dcgui??
[10:54] <kbrooks> tritium: What grounds do you have for kicking or banning me, if that's what you are going to do?
[10:55] <tritium> kbrooks, huh?
[10:55] <Fred|Fr3d> mattyJ: you've got me there. i don't know, but you could try using one from DC++, or i might have a url to one, lemme check
[10:55] <tritium> kbrooks, what makes you think that?
[10:55] <kbrooks> tritium, because you just opped yourself and that scares me ...
[10:56] <joe_alf> lol
[10:56] <mattyJ> heh
[10:56] <Vegar> Is there a graphical .deb installer/dpkg interface?
[10:56] <Fred|Fr3d> mattyJ: nah the list was removed from the site i used to use :(. i'll get the dc++ list url if you want it tho?
[10:56] <tritium> heh, kbrooks, it's not for you, dude ;)
[10:56] <mattyJ> Fred|Fr3d: ya, it should do the same thing right?
[10:56] <kbrooks> Vegar, synaptic
[10:56] <Fred|Fr3d> yeh
[10:56] <P229> selinium: haven't tried this yet, but will shortly: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6551
[10:57] <Vegar> kbrooks: ok, thanks
[10:57] <Fred|Fr3d> mattyJ: http://www.hublist.org/PublicHubList.xml.bz2
[10:57] <Seveas> now you're less scary ;(
[10:57] <Seveas> ;)
[10:57] <Fred|Fr3d> and perhaps try that site too ;-)
[10:57] <B4c0nM4N> I have a very stupid question. How do I install programs that I have downloaded?
[10:57] <kbrooks> Seveas, ty ty ty
[10:57] <qzerty> Vegar: synaptic kynaptic
[10:58] <Seveas> B4c0nM4N, depends on what you downloaded
[10:58] <qzerty> B4c0nM4N: thats depends on the format of the program
[10:58] <kbrooks> B4c0nM4N, if its a .deb, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/.deb
[10:58] <B4c0nM4N> it's for example an .tar.gz file....
[10:58] <selinium> P229, Ooooh, I hope it is that simple!
[10:58] <qzerty> taz -zxvvf
[10:58] <selinium> Hi Seveas :)
[10:58] <kbrooks> B4c0nM4N, tar -xzvf /path/to/file
[10:58] <Seveas> hi selinium
[10:59] <Vegar> qzerty, kbrooks: how do I install a .deb file with synaptic?
[10:59] <kbrooks> qzerty, No.
[10:59] <Trashcan> there is no graphical interface to sudo dpkg -i .deb?
[10:59] <qzerty> kbrooks: what?
[10:59] <kbrooks> Vegar, You don't.
[10:59] <Seveas> Trashcan, no
[10:59] <Trashcan> hmm
[10:59] <YourTechSupport> THRU-OUT-DA-PRAW-JEX!!!
[10:59] <P229> selinium: doesn't seem to work yet
[10:59] <YourTechSupport> heh.
[10:59] <kbrooks> Trashcan, None at all.
[10:59] <Trashcan> any specific reason, seveas?
[10:59] <Seveas> Trashcan, noone wrote one yet
[10:59] <Vegar> kbrooks: you just said I could
[10:59] <kbrooks> Seveas, what was he saying?
[10:59] <dell500> what's the syntax for copying 2 folders over to a certain destinatio?
[10:59] <Trashcan> i see..
[10:59] <selinium> P229: Shame...
[10:59] <fredforfaen> hey peeps!
[11:00] <Seveas> dell500, cp folder1 folder2 destination
[11:00] <B4c0nM4N> kbrooks, can i decide the path myself?
[11:00] <Seveas> cp -r even
[11:00] <kbrooks> B4c0nM4N, just a example
[11:00] <fredforfaen> hello!
[11:00] <YourTechSupport> Sorry. Hi folks.
[11:01] <fredforfaen> YourTechSupport hi
[11:01] <P229> selinium: yep, it works. I was just testing it on a messed up audio file
[11:01] <P229> selinium: still can't record yet
[11:02] <selinium> P229: Cool! Fab! Excelent! It's further than i have got so far! :) Cheers!
[11:02] <oxez> Hm. Some windows box on my network has 192.168.1.116. This computer is pingable by other windows pcs in the network, except mine, which is on Ubuntu. Cables are all correct, since I'm talking in here. I checked the domains, they are correct.. Is there something I can do to be able to ping that box?
[11:02] <Seveas> oxez, do you use dhcp?
[11:02] <dougsk> launchpad integration looks pretty cool.  Is everythign in 'main' goign to be using malone soon too?
[11:02] <B4c0nM4N> kbrooks, it look slike it did "something"... what do I do afterwards?
[11:02] <oxez> Seveas: no
[11:02] <Seveas> dougsk, depends on your definition of soon ;)
[11:03] <Seveas> oxez, did you set an IP address?
[11:03] <Seveas> if so, does ifconfig list it?
[11:03] <dougsk> Seveas, no worries, lloks awesome
[11:03] <oxez> Seveas: yes, on that box (.1.116), and on mine
[11:03] <fredforfaen> so whats up?
[11:03] <Seveas> and did you set the correct gateway?
[11:03] <Hydroxide> hi ... I'm helping an ubuntu hoary user with cvs server setup, and I need to know: what's the default umask in ubuntu, and why? it seems like 0022, and that doesn't make sense with per-user groups
[11:03] <Seveas> can you ping to other machines from the Ubuntu box?
[11:03] <oxez> yes I can
[11:03] <Doonz> hey doest anyone know the command to completely format a windows box from within windows?
[11:04] <Seveas> oxez, hrm.... firewall issue?
[11:04] <oxez> ifconfig only shows my ip, and the gateway is okay (my router)
[11:04] <oxez> Seveas: I turned it off
[11:04] <whyameye> right now FireFox plays video through the mplayer plug-in. Is there a way I could change this to play video thru totem-xine instead?
[11:04] <dbw> er, say
[11:04] <anethema> hey uhhh, for some reason my desktop icons all dissapeared
[11:04] <dbw> how do i use synaptic to show only updates from hoary-security ?
[11:04] <anethema>  the files are still in the dir
[11:04] <anethema> but no idea why they are suddenly not showing up
[11:04] <whyameye> anethema, have you tried rebooting?
[11:04] <anethema> i rebooted X
[11:04] <dbw> or, how can i see the security updates in ANY way?  (without using the gnome applet)
[11:04] <B4c0nM4N> Doonz, I don't think such a command exists...
[11:04] <anethema> but not all of linux
[11:05] <Vengeful> heh format?
[11:05] <Vengeful> deltree /y deltree c:windows will mess it up
[11:05] <Vengeful> but wont format
[11:05] <dbw> anybody?
[11:05] <oxez> Doonz: you can reboot with a DOS disk, and type format c:
[11:05] <qzerty> You cant format the operating system you booted off of
[11:05] <Doonz> vengefu will that just remove all files?
[11:05] <afd_> what would be a repository to get e17?
[11:05] <dbw> how can i get secuirty updates without using the panel applet?
[11:05] <tenco> i have problems with hotplugd again:
[11:06] <Vengeful> yeh
[11:06] <Kyral> hmm
[11:06] <tenco> martin@lotophag:~/boinc$ pgrep hotplug |wc -l
[11:06] <tenco> 6019
[11:06] <Vengeful> course you can delete partitionjs with partition mgic then reboot
[11:06] <Kyral> My /dev/sda1 seems to have two ReiserFS Journals on it
[11:06] <anethema> so no one knows how to get my desktop icons back?
[11:06] <Vengeful> but its quicker to just boot from a linuc cd and del from there
[11:06] <tenco> is this corrected in breezy?
[11:06] <Doonz> this is a remote server that im not renewing the lease on
[11:06] <Kyral> dbw
[11:07] <dbw> Kyral
[11:07] <Doonz> wanna make sure its blank when they get it
[11:07] <Vengeful> ah gotcha
[11:07] <Vengeful> ] il ask someone
[11:07] <Vengeful> sec
[11:07] <Kyral> run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade often :P
[11:07] <dbw> er. no! my sources.list is long.
[11:07] <oxez> Seveas: my ubuntu box doesn't see any computer in the workgroup
[11:07] <Kyral> Define long?
[11:07] <dbw> i don't want all these stupid backports upgrades
[11:07] <dbw> i just want the security ones
[11:07] <Kyral> *twitch*
[11:08] <delire> hehe
[11:08] <Kyral> Must....control....fist....o'.....death....
[11:08] <vireo> dbw: or in synaptic - use the tool bar to Mark All Upgrades
[11:08] <delire> Kyral: i like the other medicine you were taking.
[11:08] <Kyral> eh?
[11:08] <Seveas> oxez, sudo mii-diag [your ethernet card] 
[11:08] <dbw> i know how to mark all upgrades....... i don't want to mark all upgrades!
[11:08] <Kyral> Sorry, I'm just a huge Backports supporter
[11:08] <Seveas> does that say that everything is working OK?
[11:09] <dalamar> im on a linux only breezy system now, though i dont want to i need to install windows for school, can I resize my hd and install win and get dual boot working without losing my breezy install/data??
[11:09] <dbw> Kyral: i will apt-get dist-upgrade, but i will blame you if things get broken ;)
[11:09] <Vengeful> yes
[11:09] <Kyral> Nothing will get broken 'cause of Backports
[11:09] <Seveas> dalamar, you just need to reinstall grub afterwards
[11:09] <Seveas> Kyral, bullshit
[11:09] <delire> Kyral: not true.
[11:09] <oxez> Seveas: You have link beat, and everything is working OK.
[11:09] <Seveas> things have been broken because of it and it will happen again
[11:09] <ompaul> !tell dalamar about grub
[11:09] <delire> Kyral: there is much that can be very much broken.
[11:09] <dbw> Kyral: it's broken things before
[11:09] <scribbles> who knows the apt-get name for divx, libdivx4linux doesn't work
[11:09] <Kyral> Never happened to me, and I had just about every damn package on my system from backports :P
[11:10] <ompaul> dalamar, you will need to know that when you reastart
[11:10] <Stricklin> In Thunderbird, I can receive my mail,but not open or view it. :(
[11:10] <tritium> backports broke firefox for countless users
[11:10] <Seveas> Kyral, then you don't use hoary-security
[11:10] <delire> Kyral: timing and luck there. it's a risky business.
[11:10] <Seveas> which is a bad thing
[11:10] <Kyral> Seveas: I USED Backports
[11:10] <dalamar> ompaul, awesome thats exactly what I need to know thanks
[11:10] <Kyral> I'm in Breezy :P
[11:10] <dbw> Seveas: you are my sort of man
[11:10] <dbw> Seveas: tell me, how can i get ONLY the hoary-security upgrades in synaptic?
[11:11] <dbw> (...or possibly woman)
[11:11] <Stricklin> tritium, I used backports, could that be my problem?
[11:11] <Kyral> comment out the Backports line in your sources.list
[11:11] <tritium> Stricklin, you have firefox problems?
[11:11] <Kyral> And then again, I tinker
[11:11] <Stricklin> Thunderbird
[11:11] <dbw> these are hackes
[11:11] <delire> scribbles: if ever unsure of a package name you can 'apt-cache search <keyword>'
[11:11] <Seveas> dbw, add the hoary-security repo :)
[11:11] <Seveas> and not backports
[11:11] <dbw> Seveas: :P fair enough
[11:11] <tritium> Stricklin, not sure about thunderbird issues
[11:11] <Seveas> !tell dbw about sources
[11:11] <Kyral> hell I just spent an hour recovering the BIOS from an overclocking attempt gone wrong :D
[11:11] <dalamar> okay one more quick question, how do I go about resizing the linux partition now? in windows i would normally use something like partition magic, is there a linux program like this?
[11:11] <dbw> i know about sources for christ's sake
[11:11] <dbw> :)
[11:12] <Seveas> dbw, just making sure :)
[11:12] <Seveas> dalamar, boot from a livecd and use gparted/qtparted
[11:12] <mirak> do you manage to use TV out with ATI radeon cards ?
[11:12] <delire> scribbles: then, to be sure of what that package actually contains/does 'apt-cache search <packagename>'
[11:12] <Doonz> anyone kno if partition magic will prompt you before it does any changes
[11:12] <Kyral> hey Seveas, whats the line for your Repo again?
[11:12] <sambagirl> health
[11:12] <dell500> is there a new version of ubuntu out or is that not till oct 13th for the official release?
[11:13] <scribbles> once it downloads form there is it auto-installed and ready to go?
[11:13] <kbrooks> dell500, official release
[11:13] <ompaul> dell500, 13th
[11:13] <Seveas> Kyral, you can find them at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:13] <kbrooks> hmmm
[11:13] <dalamar> Seveas, is that gui or command line? should i read up on it first or is it pretty straight-forward?
[11:13] <dell500> aw ok
[11:13] <kbrooks> this needs a FAQ
[11:13] <kbrooks> up on the wiki
[11:13] <dell500> outtie
[11:13] <dell500> peace
[11:13] <Seveas> dalamar, it's gui and pretty straight forward
[11:13] <Thunderguy> Doonz, in partition magic 8.1 it has always recorded the changes you wanted to make, then when you click apply it does them
[11:13] <dalamar> Seveas, cool thanks
[11:13] <Seveas> kbrooks, what, that repo? No way, it's just a testing/personal dev. area :)
[11:14] <Seveas> I'm making the repo scripts available soon though
[11:14] <ompaul> kbrooks, it is in the topic on the wiki, mailing lists and all over google, so what can I tell ya
[11:14] <Kyral> Seveas, can I just leave it with ubuntu-seveas to enable the whole shabang?
[11:14] <Seveas> no
[11:14] <Seveas> you need ubuntu-seveas all
[11:14] <Thunderguy> Doonz, I recommend checking for any updates to partition magic, I had a problem the first time I used it, and had to be sure to get the update for XP, though I don't know if your using the norton version or powerquest, I was using the older version.
[11:14] <Kyral> ty ty
[11:14] <Kyral> Lazy I am
[11:14] <Seveas> but that's risky
[11:14] <sambagirl> cook
[11:14] <kbrooks> Seveas, no, the release stuff
[11:14] <Kyral> though watch my packages try to update
[11:14] <kbrooks> the ... october 13 stuff
[11:14] <kbrooks> scroll up
[11:15] <Kyral> Again. Seveas
[11:15] <Seveas> !tell kbrooks about breezy
[11:15] <Kyral> I just spent an hour recovering my BIOS
[11:15] <Seveas> hmm someone changed it :|
[11:15] <Kyral> I can handle a little package conflict :D
[11:15] <kemik> bios update gone wrong ?
[11:15] <Thunderguy> I understand if I get an Ubuntu Cd, the default installation would be to reformat a '/' mount point and install the files, is there a way to install breezy overtop of hoary, updating everything but keeping the user settings ( when it comes out that is )
[11:16] <Cryptid> i am not able to install transcoder cause symaptic say that the dependecies cannot be installed what should i do is there i site where i can get the packages and all the dependecies
[11:16] <Seveas> !tell Thunderguy about breezy
[11:16] <kemik> Thunderguy:  just change hoary to breezy in source.list and apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:16] <tenco> can someone help me with the hoptplugd problem?
[11:16] <kbrooks> anyway
[11:16] <kbrooks> bbl
[11:16] <kbrooks> dinner
[11:17] <Thunderguy> So your saying on the cd whenever I get it, I put the CD in sources.list and update?
[11:17] <tenco> i have several thousand hotplugd processes running here!
[11:17] <tenco> martin@lotophag:~/boinc$ pgrep hotplug |wc -l
[11:17] <tenco> 6019
[11:17] <Kyral> Heheh
[11:17] <Kyral> Seveas
[11:17] <brosio> anyone print with a HP deskjet ?
[11:17] <Kyral> its trying to upgrade w32codecs
[11:17] <tenco> brosio: yes
[11:18] <brosio> tenco, could u help me ?
[11:18] <tenco> brosio: what problem do you have?
[11:18] <brosio> if i do
[11:18] <Seveas> Kyral, that won't happen, w32codecs is behind authentication :)
[11:18] <tenco> hmm, problem is i run kubuntu
[11:18] <Kyral> Tell that to Apt
[11:18] <brosio> cat prova.log > /dev/usb/lp0 works
[11:18] <brosio> but
[11:18] <brosio> with cups
[11:18] <Seveas> it will find out :)
[11:18] <brosio> dosn't works
[11:19] <MadpilotPPC> brosio, most of the HP stuff seems to run fine in Ubuntu
[11:19] <brosio> with kdeprint
[11:19] <Kyral> I don't supposed I could get auth?
[11:19] <tenco> brosio: what model?
[11:19] <MadpilotPPC> !tell brosio about printers
[11:19] <brosio> hp 5500
[11:19] <brosio> with debian works
[11:19] <Cryptid> Seveas, i am not able to install transcoder cause symaptic say that the dependecies cannot be installed what should i do is there i site where i can get the packages and all the dependecies
[11:20] <transparentdream> My console says it con't find the X includes. What does that mean?
[11:20] <Kyral> Yea, apt is stopped cold
[11:20] <Tiggs> how do you get tv out? in install nvtv but how do actually tell it to turn on tv out?
[11:20] <Seveas> Cryptid, which dependencies/where did you get trancode from?
[11:20] <Seveas> transparentdream, that you can't compile GUI programs
[11:20] <transparentdream> Seveas, How do I fix that?
[11:21] <Seveas> transparentdream, by installing the headers or using a deb package to install the program you want to compile
[11:21] <tenco> brosio: i installed my 840C via kde with system-settings->settings->devices->printer and adding a printer
[11:21] <tenco> brosio: system-settings in kicker
[11:21] <brosio> tenco, i do the same
[11:21] <transparentdream> Where can I find headers? Headers in general or headers for specific program im trying to install?
[11:22] <tenco> brosio: do you change to system managing mode?
[11:22] <dooglus> transparentdream: in the <package>-dev package
[11:22] <brosio> yes
[11:22] <transparentdream> gotcha
[11:22] <Cryptid> seveas, libavcodeccvs libfame-0.9 libgcc1 liblame0 these are the dependencies it needs is there ne way i can get them
[11:23] <Seveas> Cryptid, where did you install transcode from?
[11:23] <tenco> brosio: is your model listed by the printer wizard?
[11:23] <Kyral> *STAB!*
[11:23] <Kyral> Stop trying to upgrade w32codecs!
[11:23] <dooglus> transparentdream: you can "sudo apt-get build-dep <package>" to install all the headers you need to build <package>
[11:23] <brosio> tenco, yes
[11:23] <brosio> i do the same on deb
[11:23] <brosio> on my laptop
[11:23] <brosio> and works
[11:23] <Kyral> That was to my system
[11:23] <brosio> just a second
[11:23] <Kyral> I even put a Apt-Pin on it
[11:24] <Cryptid> Seveas, from synaptic
[11:24] <Seveas> Cryptid, which repository
[11:25] <Kyral> Good Apt..
[11:25] <Cryptid> Seveas, ubuntu-backport repos
[11:25] <tenco> so noone can help me with my hotplugd problem?
[11:25] <Seveas> ah, well there ya go
[11:25] <Seveas> backport crud
[11:25] <Seveas> enable multiverse
[11:25] <Seveas> it may work
[11:25] <tenco> i just left an usb-memory stick in for a few hours after unmounting it
[11:26] <Seveas> or else, stab Kyral :)
[11:26] <Stricklin> http://photomatt.net/2005/09/29/more-on-ubuntu/
[11:26] <Kyral> Try it :P
[11:26] <Kyral> ahh wait
[11:26] <Kyral> I'm hungry
[11:26] <Seveas> tenco, that SO sounds like a bug you should file...
[11:26] <Cryptid> Seveas, how to enable multiverse
[11:27] <Seveas> !tell Cryptid about repositories
[11:27] <fredforfaen> anybody here know how i can get e17 by apt?
[11:27] <tenco> Seveas: ok. it the third or so time that i have this problem. hotplugd spams the scsi script again and again (now: 6030 times)
[11:27] <pepsi> how can i make usb memory sticks write immediately instead of waiting until i unmount?
[11:28] <Seveas> tenco, ouch :/
[11:28] <pepsi> i want to be able to just take it out without unmounting it
[11:28] <Seveas> pepsi, by recompiling the hotplug package or remounting them sync instead of async
[11:28] <Blissex> tenco: BTW, the USB subsystem is notoriously buggy except for keyboards and mice, and 'hotplug' is a horror...
[11:28] <Seveas> fredforfaen, search the forums, there's a repo that has it
[11:29] <pepsi> Seveas, so short of recompiling hotplug id have to remount manually?
[11:29] <Seveas> yes
[11:29] <Blissex> tenco: even worse, most USB chipsets in most devices are hideously buggy too.
[11:29] <Seveas> pepsi, sorry, not hotplug but pmount
[11:29] <tenco> Seveas: thanks for the info. you dont get these easy :-\
[11:29] <Blissex> tenco: I have switched back to using static device files, and to load/unload modules manually.
[11:30] <Cryptid> Seveas, my multiverse is enabled still it gives the same problem
[11:30] <pepsi> is there a particular reason usb drives get async automatically?
[11:30] <pepsi> sync makes more sense to me
[11:30] <balrog-kun> is there any ftpd package on the install or the live CD?
[11:31] <Seveas> Cryptid, libavcodec is not available in hoary
[11:31] <Seveas> so there's an error (as usual) with the backport package
[11:32] <tenco> Seveas: should i report the bug to ubuntu, debian or hotplug?
[11:32] <Seveas> balrog-kun, no
[11:32] <Seveas> tenco, all 3 ;)
[11:32] <tenco> :)
[11:32] <balrog-kun> Seveas: ok
[11:33] <MadpilotPPC> tenco, if you report the bug to Ubuntu, I understand that they'll move it on as needed, to Debian or hotplug in this case
[11:33] <tenco> MadpilotPPC: ok
[11:34] <Cryptid> Seveas, u mean that i cant do anything about it
[11:34] <tenco> bye!
[11:34] <Cashel> Anyone know where I can get the kernel-header package for 12-9? Trying to get fglrx modules to compile in Breezy...
[11:35] <qzerty> Cashel: ...
[11:35] <qzerty> Cashel: How did you get the kernel?
[11:35] <Seveas> Cryptid, you can search for the missing lib somewhere else :)
[11:35] <Seveas> !tell Cashel about ati
[11:35] <Cashel> via synaptic's update.... was 12-8
[11:35] <Seveas> don't compile drivers manually
[11:35] <qzerty> Cashel: And why don't you get the headers through synaptic too
[11:35] <Cashel> I know all about ATI, I got 3d accel working in hoary....
[11:35] <Cashel> because they arent there
[11:36] <Cashel> or at least I couldnt find them..
[11:36] <balrog-kun> where does apt store binary packages?
[11:36] <qzerty> linux-headers-2.6.12-9-k7 - Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on AMD K7
[11:36] <qzerty> linux-headers-2.6.12-9-k7-smp - Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on AMD K7 SMP
[11:37] <Seveas> all over your system
[11:37] <qzerty> If your reffering to the debs: /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:37] <Cashel> qzerty, kernel-headers :(
[11:37] <Cashel> I'm an idiot, thanks man
[11:38] <balrog-kun> ah, yeah, the .debs it downloads from the network
[11:38] <qzerty> kernel-headers is debian, we renamed them to linux-headers for fun
[11:38] <Cashel> heheh
[11:38] <Cashel> how.. uhhh.. nice of you :)
[11:38] <Vegar> if you want to remove them, use apt-get clean
[11:39] <Cashel> I'll probably be public enemy #1 for saying this, but besides the boot up on the original kernel (which the updates did away with and broke) breezy doesnt seem any different then hoary did, heheh
[11:39] <s3[mn] rain> Hi, I am trying to apply a patch to the synaptics-0.14.3 driver, but I am getting "patch: **** unexpected end of file in patch", I have copied and paste the patch right into a plain file, am I missing something?
[11:39] <Cashel> I heard someone saying gnome 2.12 looks way better, seems the same to me...
[11:39] <kbrooks> Cashel, Might be better on 13th.
[11:40] <kbrooks> ubuntu that is
[11:40] <qzerty> Cashel: Newer kernel, better looking x-splash screen
[11:40] <Cashel> Yeah I sort of jumped the gun installing breezy yesterday instead of waiting, hehe
[11:40] <Cashel> I was using 6.13 in hoary, heh..
[11:40] <kbrooks> qzerty, x-splash screen? wtf?
[11:41] <lsuactiafner> blackbox looks way better than gnome
[11:41] <chavo> lsuactiafner, to you it does, sure.
[11:41] <Cashel> beats hell out of KDE imho
[11:41] <aurax> how can i change a password from root to another user
[11:41] <jrattner1> whats the best DVD player, is MPLAYER the best for playing DVD's?
[11:41] <Seveas> Cashel, gnome 2.12 uses gtk2.8 which uses cairo
[11:41] <aurax> su -u user pass?
[11:41] <aurax> passwd*
[11:41] <Cashel> jrattner1, I preffer xine
[11:41] <Seveas> vector graphics galore
[11:41] <qzerty> kbrooks: In kubuntu anyway, the xsplash screen is no longer 'redmound' it is 'kubuntu' which looks slightly better
[11:41] <qzerty> the kdm login has been polished more too
[11:42] <chavo> Gnome is nice for the new users.
[11:42] <qzerty> And the new font system is a sizeable improvement
[11:42] <kbrooks> qzerty, gdm and ubuntu :P
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> blackbox is no attempt @ a gui, as it should be heh, extensive menus + taskbars never worked for me
[11:42] <chavo> lsuactiafner, that's great.
[11:42] <qzerty> hhhaha chavo++ was thinking the same thing.
[11:42] <Cashel> one thing I noticed with breezy is if you removed gdm from the init.d the kernel messages halt and dont continue to login, have to alt f1 to get a login..
[11:43] <chavo> that's the best thing about Linux, choice
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> a better looking x-splash screen is really what makes a system..
[11:43] <chavo> lsuactiafner, for some people maybe.
[11:43] <transparentdream> how do i get tiemu to work? Got the rom loaded, nothing does anything
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> those some ppl shouldnt be allowed to touch a PC
[11:44] <esac_> what is the best p2p program nowadays ? xmule, amule, .. ?
[11:44] <kbrooks> esac: i like amule
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> qzerty : do not version me twice, it wont change
[11:44] <dooglus> bittorrent is good
[11:44] <chavo> lsuactiafner, and why is that?
[11:44] <qzerty> wtf is with the damn p2p questions today
[11:45] <kbrooks> qzerty, ?
[11:45] <balrog-kun> direct connect
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> chavo : there are better determinants, like scheduler used in the default kernel.
[11:45] <chavo> lsuactiafner, if everyone was just like you, what a sad  World this would be. not that there's anything wrong with you.
[11:45] <chavo> lsuactiafner, to some people that means absolutley n\othing.
[11:45] <kbrooks> Cashel, mpt evil
[11:45] <kbrooks> not*
[11:46] <Cashel> not at all
[11:46] <kbrooks> Cashel, the *programs* are legal
[11:46] <kbrooks> transferring using the programs are illegal
[11:46] <Cashel> I've just been around a lot of linux channels, and watch people be told not to ask about p2p...
[11:46] <esac_> considering that bittorrent is one of the primary means of distributing linux distros, i don't see how p2p could be evil(TM) in linux channels
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> chavo : whenever i boot a pc i dont sit and wait for the splash sreen, thats just a waste of time, if you're promoting a new product a splash screen shouldnt be its best new feature
[11:46] <qzerty> Thinks p2p is inheritly a boring and abused topic, and that every p2p related question has been answered 550,000 times at least.
[11:46] <Cashel> your preaching to the choir man
[11:47] <kbrooks> Cashel, who me
[11:47] <Cashel> yes you
[11:47] <chavo> yep, I share my bana cream pie recipes on p2p.
[11:47] <Cashel> and esac
[11:47] <chavo> banana that is
[11:47] <chavo> It's the best.
[11:47] <Cashel> I use limewire and direct connect if im in winblowz...
[11:47] <kbrooks> Cashel, when people ask those questions, sometimes it's offtopic to the channel etc
[11:48] <kevogod> Yes, saying "Winblowz" or "Window$" or the like never gets old.
[11:48] <chavo> chavo_banana_cream_pie_recipe_its_the_best.exe
[11:48] <Cashel> kevogod, not to me it doesnt, hehe
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> i use a portable 120G hard disk.. dailup modem lol
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> faster to walk to the ppl than to download something
[11:48] <kevogod> When I use Upooptu I use Limewire and Azureus.
[11:48] <Cashel> but then I still think the geek code is fashionable, lol
[11:48] <kbrooks> 'ppl'?
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> haha
[11:48] <rrittenhouse> How do I tell ubuntu to install an i686 smp kernel during the install instead of an i386 kernel
[11:48] <Seveas> not
[11:49] <Seveas> there is no 686-smp kernel on the cd
[11:49] <kbrooks> Seveas, ping.
[11:49] <erirlar> hi, how do i delete all my *.png files from a dir and the sub dirs?
[11:49] <Seveas> kbrooks, pong
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> .exe?
[11:49] <esac_> kbrooks: mind if i msg you a private question
[11:49] <kbrooks> lsuactiafner, executable
[11:49] <kbrooks> lsuactiafner, win32
[11:49] <shadeofgrey> okay guys
[11:49] <Seveas> erirlar, find /path/to/dir -name '*.png' | xargs rm
[11:49] <shadeofgrey> i need information on fonts'
[11:49] <kbrooks> esac_: no
[11:49] <kbrooks> pm away
[11:49] <erirlar> thanks
[11:49] <Cashel> rm -R *.png wont do it?
[11:49] <shadeofgrey> how hard is it to install ttf fonts in ubuntu?
[11:49] <qzerty> find /path/to/dir -name '*.png' | xargs rm
[11:49] <yarddog> rrittenhouse, install with the 386 and then apt-get install the smp kernel
[11:50] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, drop them in ~/.fonts anf they're installed
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> chavo_banana_cream_pie_recipe_installs_spyware.not.exe
[11:50] <qzerty> find /path/to/dir -name '*.png' -exec rm {} \;
[11:50] <chavo> shadeofgrey, mkdir ~/.fonts, cp font.ttf ~/.fonts
[11:50] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, global install: drop them in /usr/share/fonts
[11:50] <shadeofgrey> what is ~/.fonts?
[11:50] <chavo> no spyware in my cream pie man
[11:50] <Seveas> qzerty, xargs is faster, starts just one rm process :)
[11:50] <shadeofgrey> ahhhh
[11:50] <shadeofgrey> THANKS!
[11:50] <chavo> shadeofgrey, ~ means your home directory
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> whistle @ it
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> hey Seveas (:
[11:50] <qzerty> Seveas: hahhaha, it has to start an rm process!
[11:50] <shadeofgrey> oh, wow...
[11:51] <rrittenhouse> Seveas: How do you install one once you are in ubuntu then?
[11:51] <chavo> just make a .fonts directory in there and cp the ttfs over, unless you want them systemwide
[11:51] <rrittenhouse> Seveas: i cannot find how to do this...
[11:51] <Seveas> rrittenhouse, apt-get install linus-686-smp
[11:52] <therether> hi ppl. I have some problems. i cant play mp3 on my rhythm and box...someone can help me ?:)
[11:52] <gpd> if I want to move files with spaces in the name... using a for loop... how do I escape it?
[11:52] <Seveas> !tell therether about mp3
[11:52] <rrittenhouse> Seveas: Do you need these restricted modules and everything else that came with the i386 kernel?
[11:52] <karim_> hi
[11:53] <qzerty> Seveas: The joke was in that -exec too only starts one rm process, and it doesn't need to start an xargs
[11:53] <kbrooks> gpd: you dont
[11:53] <Seveas> gpd, something like for X in *; mv "$X" "$X".bak; done
[11:53] <kbrooks> ""
[11:53] <kbrooks> use it.
[11:53] <gpd> kbrooks: yeah that is what i was trying... :(
[11:53] <Seveas> qzerty, hmm, I'll have to read up on find
[11:53] <esac_> i got it, thanks kbrooks
[11:54] <kbrooks> esac_: np
[11:54] <karim_> I got a problem with ATI drivers and xorg. Xorg says that he "can't open default font "fixed" "
[11:54] <Zurawik> hey does anyone have any experience with wireless keyboards/mice? just installed ubuntu again and my bluetooth stuff won't work at all
[11:55] <gpd> Seveas: I have the list of files in a files... and it is printing each fragment of the name per line...
[11:55] <Cryptid> Seveas, i screwed up my rpos is there any way i can restore it to the default setting please help i want it to be the way it was when i installed ubuntu first
[11:55] <hjack_> What do I do with a .bin?
[11:55] <therether> Seveas, can you help me :) i can play mp3 in xmms beep etc, but in RandBox no...
[11:56] <Seveas> Cryptid, hoary or breezy?
[11:56] <Seveas> therether, you need gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:56] <HatchLing> Hi, all.
[11:56] <creatin> i just instaled ubuntu, it didn't ask a root password at install, and now when i try to do things it asks me for one, is the a default password?
[11:56] <dbw> gpd: cat /path/to/list | while read thing ; do mv "$thing" "$thing.bak" ; done
[11:56] <hjack_> lol
[11:56] <hjack_> !root
[11:56] <Cryptid> seveas, hoary
[11:56] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:56] <tony_> I have a question on how to find a folder when someone gets a chance.
[11:57] <hjack_> see that creatin?
[11:57] <Belutz> Seveas, how do i force remove a program?
[11:57] <Cashel> qzerty, I noticed you had linux-header 2.6.12-9-k7 in there, is there a precompiled kernel for k7 too?
[11:57] <Seveas> Cryptid, sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d969 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:57] <creatin> then how do i change users and things?
[11:57] <Seveas> note that the O in -O is a captital 'oh'
[11:57] <HatchLing> I just downloaded and burned the LiveCD of 4.10.  I'm getting a GRUB error 17 when I try to boot from it.  What might be the cause/solution?
[11:57] <Cryptid> seveas will that fix the problem
[11:57] <therether> Seveas, that is the problem. I have gstreamer0.8-mad instaled but doesnt work :(
[11:57] <kbrooks> Seveas, see this is why 0 and O is confusing
[11:57] <Seveas> Belutz, dpkg -P --force-(what needs to be forced here) $packagename
[11:58] <Seveas> Cryptid, that will install a pristine sources.list
[11:58] <juliaintenn> i created a launcher on my desktop that directs firefox to open a gmail url; but when i dblclick it i don't get the spinning disc cursor
[11:58] <juliaintenn> why?
[11:58] <Seveas> creatin, system -> administration -> users
[11:58] <qzerty> Cashel: Yes I ran that command as an apt-cache search from irssi's exec and had it thrown to channel
[11:58] <kbrooks> What's -O? output?
[11:58] <gpd> dbw: while read filename; do cp "$filename" /newdirectory; done < mp3.txt
[11:58] <ompaul> HatchLing, consider burning one of the later editions  much better stuff all together
[11:58] <Seveas> kbrooks, yes
[11:59] <Stricklin> May I install my own TrueType fonts?
[11:59] <kbrooks> Seveas, OK
[11:59] <therether> Seveas, i have that gstreamer instaled but doesnt work ...:(:(
[11:59] <Seveas> Stricklin, no ;)
[11:59] <Cashel> qotta love irssi
[11:59] <Seveas> (stricklin: sure, put them in a folder named .fonts in your homedir)
[11:59] <ilba7r> !intel graphics media
[11:59] <ubotu> ilba7r: What?
[11:59] <ilba7r> ! hardware support
[11:59] <HatchLing> ompaul: 4.10 was recommended for stability.  My real priority here is to get my box on my wireless LAN using the wireless adapter I've already got, which requires ndiswrapper.
[11:59] <ubotu> ilba7r: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:59] <Belutz> Seveas, so dpkg -P --force-remove packagename ?
[11:59] <Cashel> soon as I get my 3d accel going I'll have to reinstall it.. miss my scripts... heh
[11:59] <Seveas> therether, did you mess with esd (the sound server)
[12:00] <Cryptid> !repositories
[12:00] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[12:00] <ilba7r> !hardware support
[12:00] <ubotu> ilba7r: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:00] <Seveas> Belutz, more like --force-depends and the like