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JaneWFYI Edubuntu is sitting at #41 on the distrowatch 'last month' list ;)09:04
ajmitch_very impressive :)09:18
JaneWhere is review (with valid points) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/261909:19
JaneWmost of the critisisms are things we have discussed, and did want to do, we just didn't have the time and resources to acheive them on the first release. I am hoping we can add much more polish to ver 6.0409:20
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Burgundaviathe menu one is going to be a fun one09:22
ajmitch_for the next release, I should see about getting a zope product a friend & myself are developing into (ed)ubuntu, for providing a commentable document :)09:22
ajmitch_he's a teacher, so he's planned how to use this product for exam questions, etc09:22
=== Burgundavia is worried that his new job will make him to able to work on edubuntu
ajmitch_what will your new job be?09:23
Burgundaviawww.userful.com09:23
Burgundaviasales and marketing with them09:23
ajmitch_ah09:23
Burgundaviathey do multiseat stuff, but percieve that Ubuntu might become a competitor09:23
ajmitch_I really hope you can still contribute09:24
BurgundaviaI am going to hammer it out in writing, don't worry09:24
ajmitch_might be? I'd say there could be a good chance it will be competitive in some way09:24
Burgundaviauserful's big drive is libraries right now09:24
ajmitch_proprietary software will increasingly come under pressure from free solutions like ubuntu :)09:27
Burgundaviaindeed09:28
BurgundaviaI don't expect I will work for them for much more than a year09:28
ajmitch_I'm employed at the moment writing proprietary php code09:31
ajmitch_but there's no ubuntu overlap at the moment, thankfully09:31
jsgotangcoi got an email before from one company that wanted me to write something for them like an endorsement..hehehe i declined09:32
ajmitch_what sort of endorsement? :)09:35
jsgotangcoit was dodgy, they were selling services (migration, platform, etc.) and ubuntu was one of their pieces09:38
jsgotangcoi told them they're better off sending an email to silbs09:38
jsgotangcohmmm kernel update10:06
jsgotangcobrb10:06
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JaneWoops12:13
JaneWsorry ;)12:13
ajmitch_hm, I was wanting to talk moodle with him, too :)12:17
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JaneWYagisan: ah right, what you doing here than?12:25
YagisanJaneW: I work from home - I'm always around here somewhere12:26
JaneWok12:26
Yagisanthat and its too hot to go out today (35C)12:27
JaneWwow12:37
JaneWit's cool here today.... 17 degs12:38
Yagisanwe expect about 20C tomorrow. My wife complains about the inconsistent weather here12:44
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spaceyJaneW, why is edubuntu not in launchpad?12:52
JaneWspacey: er...12:57
JaneWspacey: what do you mean exactly?12:57
JaneWfor Rosetta?12:57
spaceyjust in general12:58
jsgotangcoerr..why?12:58
spaceyfor bugs and stuff12:58
jsgotangcoits still ubuntu12:58
jsgotangcobugs should be in bugzilla12:58
spaceyyeah ok its main 12:58
spaceylaunchpad has lots of nifty features12:58
spacey:P12:58
jsgotangcomalone is for universe at the moment12:59
spaceysupport tickets :P calendar :P uhhh 01:00
spaceyok not too much atm then01:00
spaceybugfiling with launchpad is really nice :P01:00
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hno73highvolt1ge: any progress on the website look? I'm looking at the moin skin now03:38
hno73I'm using various gartoon icons where needed03:38
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hno73highvoltage: what's the word on the webpage?03:45
hno73I've been working on the moin skin a bit03:46
highvoltagehno73: sorry about that, bad signal03:46
highvoltagehno73: yes, i'm uploading new page now, have been in meeting all day, going back in about 5 min03:46
hno73np03:46
highvoltagehold on..03:47
hno73ok, thx03:47
highvoltagehttp://www.ossn.co.za/edubuntu/4/03:47
highvoltagetonight i'm turning all those wiki links into real pages.03:47
hno73great, I'll match up the wiki skin to that03:48
highvoltageelmo seems to be a bit busy though, but i'll stay on his case. do you perhaps know the name of the server the edubuntu site will be hosted on? i have a login, but forgot the server name :/03:48
highvoltagehno73: excellent, you're the man!03:48
hno73highvoltage: I don't know, but I have access to empty servers if we are really stuck03:49
JaneWhighvoltage: http://www.ossn.co.za/edubuntu/4/ looks great04:10
JaneWhighvoltage: I'd increase the font size in the bar on the RHS though, to match the bold cartoony icons04:10
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spaceylooks really nice04:21
rcdiugunhav'a question. Will Edubuntu be released on the same date as ubuntu?04:31
magnonshould be, yes04:36
magnonbut as I understood on Oliver, it might be pushed if there are serious problems, since we don't have the same pressure, but it's in that case a matter of days04:37
rcdiugunah i see. I just read about it now and it suddenly got me thinking about a long-standing project of mine.04:38
rcdiugunEdubuntu just might be able to help me out with the project. :)04:39
magnonaha04:40
magnondo tell if you can04:40
rcdiugunYupyup! :D If I get my logistics straightened out (and get enough support from city hall and a couple other orgs in the area) I hope to use edubuntu for a free summer computer camp project for public school kids and/or out-of-school youths here. :)04:43
spaceyrcdiugun, sounds like its suited for such a thing :)04:49
magnonrcdiugun: edubuntu would probably ease your setup04:50
magnonand by next summer, edubuntu should be way better too :)04:50
highvoltage /topic05:19
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hno73highvoltage: How set are you on the top right area of that page?07:12
hno73I need some space for search, login, etc07:12
hno73I could skip the logo, or try to work in or around it07:13
hno73It would be good if it looked sensible on both the wiki and the static page07:14
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highvoltagehno73: i'm not set on it too hard.07:17
highvoltagein fact, i need to redo that, currently the text is part of the image07:17
highvoltagei did it that way because i didn't have a css ref handy, and just needed to put something together quickly.07:17
hno73highvoltage: ok, I'm playing with some options too07:17
highvoltagei also though that those icons should be smaller07:17
highvoltageit feels a bit strange with the very big icons up there.07:18
hno73which? the main icons? 07:18
hno73right07:18
highvoltageyes, the main icons.07:18
hno7364x64 might be good07:18
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hno73ok, that gives me some more space too07:18
highvoltagecurrently, the icons themselves are 70x70, and the images 90x9007:18
highvoltagebut 64x64 sounds good.07:19
highvoltagehno73: do you have any page with a preview, or one that i can see on the wiki with the banner?07:19
highvoltagenot that i'm rushing you, and not that it's urgent, i'm just curious to see how the text, etc will fit in.07:20
hno73No, it's just local. I can email you screenshots though07:20
hno73There are 6 items in the top right corner here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/07:21
hno73that I need to fit in07:21
hno73I might just move the logo off to the right so that the name is hidden but the circle remains07:21
hno73get the idea?07:22
highvoltageah07:22
highvoltageyes. that's very helpful.07:22
highvoltagei have another idea.07:23
highvoltagewhat if we keep things more or less where they are, with smaller icons, and then put those two lines (search and login name, etc)...07:23
highvoltagein one single line above the icons?07:23
highvoltagei feel a bit wary to mess with the position of the logo.07:24
hno73Yeah, could do. You mean small icons on the front page and the wiki? or shrink them for the wiki?07:25
highvoltagesmaller icons everywhere.07:29
highvoltagethen we have a consistent look, and i think the smaller icons will look better.07:29
highvoltagewe want a friendly look, but i'm sure we'll use more graphics withing the site later on, and in the wiki. so we won't loose much friendlyness-factor, i think.07:30
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highvoltagehno73: i suppose it will be better for future merges if I call pages wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuScreenshots instead of /Screenshots?07:50
hno73highvoltage: yes, that will help08:04
highvoltagehno73: are you managing art.ubuntu.com? do you think we should use that for edubuntu-art, or should there be an art.edubuntu.org as well?08:13
highvoltageand what software is behind art.ubuntu.com?08:15
highvoltageok, i need to leave now, been at work now for 16 hours, can't be very healthy :)08:20
highvoltagecheers!08:20
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hno73ogra, see: http://www.omma.org.uk/files/temp/ (wiki layout)10:59
ograhno73, ubercool :-D11:01
hno73ogra: just need to code it now :)11:01
ograheh :)11:01
hno73(those are mock-ups)11:01
ajmitch_ah, ogra is here11:13
ograyup11:13
ajmitch_hi11:14
ajmitch_ogra: you need moodle done asap?11:15
ograyup11:15
ajmitch_hm ok11:15
ograi just fixed gcompris, moodle is the only broken app left11:15
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ograbut i dont get forward it seems :(11:17
=== ajmitch_ will so I'll get the 30 lashes if I don't get moodle done tonight ;)
ograits not *that* urgent11:18
ogra:)11:18
ajmitch_it is if it needs to be promoted to main11:20
ajmitch_I doubt there'll be universe->main promotions once RC is out11:20
ajmitch_and it'll be getting hard even now11:20
ogradepends hiw good i am in convincing mdz ;)11:21
ajmitch_he'll need a *lot* of convicing11:21
ajmitch_and moodle will need tested11:22
ajmitch_since db & db user creation is easy to break11:22
ograyup11:22
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ogratake your time... if i cant convince mdz ...i cant ... dont worry...11:24
ajmitch_I want to see this in :)11:27
ajmitch_eek, malone above 500 bugs again11:29
ograbddebian will care ;)11:29
ograand \sh should be back tomorrow again :)11:29
=== ajmitch_ is 2 bugs ahead of bddebian still ;)
ajmitch_I think I'll be about 3 point short of 1000 karma now11:29
ajmitch_maybe over with the last activity11:31
ograwow11:32
ograi think i'm around 5 :)11:32
ajmitch_this last week has been busy :)11:33
ograyes, i recognized :)11:33
ajmitch_don't worry11:34
ajmitch_next week will be at least twice as busy, I'm sure ;)11:34
ajmitch_and then you can have a weekend off!11:35
ograhah, if i still have a job after that ...11:35
ogra:)11:35
ajmitch_sure you will11:36
=== ajmitch_ might not ;)
ograheh... lets see if i have a working release11:36
ajmitch_you'd better ;)11:36
ograyes...11:37
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ajmitch_it's another useful app that deps only on php411:43
ajmitch_ick11:44
ograhmm, it should depend php4|511:44
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ajmitch_he synced it for security without seeing if build-deps were satisfied11:45
ograargh11:46
ajmitch_current source is already built11:46
ajmitch_s/built/'fixed'/11:46
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kendrickhello :)11:51
kendrickhi bdoin11:52
bdoinhi, good to see tuxpaint around ;)11:55
kendrick;)11:55
kendrickworking on 0.9.15... slowly.11:55
kendricki might make a half-assed release, just to get it out11:55
kendricki.e., sans some features i was seriously hoping to get in, like stamp cateogory UI11:55
bdoinhave you seen the stamp category in gcompris ?11:58
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kendrickum... probably ;)12:00
bdointhere is a scrollbar on the left with a category icon then on the right the small image in a scrollable panel12:02

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