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JaneW | FYI Edubuntu is sitting at #41 on the distrowatch 'last month' list ;) | 09:04 |
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ajmitch_ | very impressive :) | 09:18 |
JaneW | here is review (with valid points) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/2619 | 09:19 |
JaneW | most of the critisisms are things we have discussed, and did want to do, we just didn't have the time and resources to acheive them on the first release. I am hoping we can add much more polish to ver 6.04 | 09:20 |
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Burgundavia | the menu one is going to be a fun one | 09:22 |
ajmitch_ | for the next release, I should see about getting a zope product a friend & myself are developing into (ed)ubuntu, for providing a commentable document :) | 09:22 |
ajmitch_ | he's a teacher, so he's planned how to use this product for exam questions, etc | 09:22 |
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ajmitch_ | what will your new job be? | 09:23 |
Burgundavia | www.userful.com | 09:23 |
Burgundavia | sales and marketing with them | 09:23 |
ajmitch_ | ah | 09:23 |
Burgundavia | they do multiseat stuff, but percieve that Ubuntu might become a competitor | 09:23 |
ajmitch_ | I really hope you can still contribute | 09:24 |
Burgundavia | I am going to hammer it out in writing, don't worry | 09:24 |
ajmitch_ | might be? I'd say there could be a good chance it will be competitive in some way | 09:24 |
Burgundavia | userful's big drive is libraries right now | 09:24 |
ajmitch_ | proprietary software will increasingly come under pressure from free solutions like ubuntu :) | 09:27 |
Burgundavia | indeed | 09:28 |
Burgundavia | I don't expect I will work for them for much more than a year | 09:28 |
ajmitch_ | I'm employed at the moment writing proprietary php code | 09:31 |
ajmitch_ | but there's no ubuntu overlap at the moment, thankfully | 09:31 |
jsgotangco | i got an email before from one company that wanted me to write something for them like an endorsement..hehehe i declined | 09:32 |
ajmitch_ | what sort of endorsement? :) | 09:35 |
jsgotangco | it was dodgy, they were selling services (migration, platform, etc.) and ubuntu was one of their pieces | 09:38 |
jsgotangco | i told them they're better off sending an email to silbs | 09:38 |
jsgotangco | hmmm kernel update | 10:06 |
jsgotangco | brb | 10:06 |
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JaneW | oops | 12:13 |
JaneW | sorry ;) | 12:13 |
ajmitch_ | hm, I was wanting to talk moodle with him, too :) | 12:17 |
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JaneW | Yagisan: ah right, what you doing here than? | 12:25 |
Yagisan | JaneW: I work from home - I'm always around here somewhere | 12:26 |
JaneW | ok | 12:26 |
Yagisan | that and its too hot to go out today (35C) | 12:27 |
JaneW | wow | 12:37 |
JaneW | it's cool here today.... 17 degs | 12:38 |
Yagisan | we expect about 20C tomorrow. My wife complains about the inconsistent weather here | 12:44 |
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spacey | JaneW, why is edubuntu not in launchpad? | 12:52 |
JaneW | spacey: er... | 12:57 |
JaneW | spacey: what do you mean exactly? | 12:57 |
JaneW | for Rosetta? | 12:57 |
spacey | just in general | 12:58 |
jsgotangco | err..why? | 12:58 |
spacey | for bugs and stuff | 12:58 |
jsgotangco | its still ubuntu | 12:58 |
jsgotangco | bugs should be in bugzilla | 12:58 |
spacey | yeah ok its main | 12:58 |
spacey | launchpad has lots of nifty features | 12:58 |
spacey | :P | 12:58 |
jsgotangco | malone is for universe at the moment | 12:59 |
spacey | support tickets :P calendar :P uhhh | 01:00 |
spacey | ok not too much atm then | 01:00 |
spacey | bugfiling with launchpad is really nice :P | 01:00 |
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hno73 | highvolt1ge: any progress on the website look? I'm looking at the moin skin now | 03:38 |
hno73 | I'm using various gartoon icons where needed | 03:38 |
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hno73 | highvoltage: what's the word on the webpage? | 03:45 |
hno73 | I've been working on the moin skin a bit | 03:46 |
highvoltage | hno73: sorry about that, bad signal | 03:46 |
highvoltage | hno73: yes, i'm uploading new page now, have been in meeting all day, going back in about 5 min | 03:46 |
hno73 | np | 03:46 |
highvoltage | hold on.. | 03:47 |
hno73 | ok, thx | 03:47 |
highvoltage | http://www.ossn.co.za/edubuntu/4/ | 03:47 |
highvoltage | tonight i'm turning all those wiki links into real pages. | 03:47 |
hno73 | great, I'll match up the wiki skin to that | 03:48 |
highvoltage | elmo seems to be a bit busy though, but i'll stay on his case. do you perhaps know the name of the server the edubuntu site will be hosted on? i have a login, but forgot the server name :/ | 03:48 |
highvoltage | hno73: excellent, you're the man! | 03:48 |
hno73 | highvoltage: I don't know, but I have access to empty servers if we are really stuck | 03:49 |
JaneW | highvoltage: http://www.ossn.co.za/edubuntu/4/ looks great | 04:10 |
JaneW | highvoltage: I'd increase the font size in the bar on the RHS though, to match the bold cartoony icons | 04:10 |
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spacey | looks really nice | 04:21 |
rcdiugun | hav'a question. Will Edubuntu be released on the same date as ubuntu? | 04:31 |
magnon | should be, yes | 04:36 |
magnon | but as I understood on Oliver, it might be pushed if there are serious problems, since we don't have the same pressure, but it's in that case a matter of days | 04:37 |
rcdiugun | ah i see. I just read about it now and it suddenly got me thinking about a long-standing project of mine. | 04:38 |
rcdiugun | Edubuntu just might be able to help me out with the project. :) | 04:39 |
magnon | aha | 04:40 |
magnon | do tell if you can | 04:40 |
rcdiugun | Yupyup! :D If I get my logistics straightened out (and get enough support from city hall and a couple other orgs in the area) I hope to use edubuntu for a free summer computer camp project for public school kids and/or out-of-school youths here. :) | 04:43 |
spacey | rcdiugun, sounds like its suited for such a thing :) | 04:49 |
magnon | rcdiugun: edubuntu would probably ease your setup | 04:50 |
magnon | and by next summer, edubuntu should be way better too :) | 04:50 |
highvoltage | /topic | 05:19 |
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hno73 | highvoltage: How set are you on the top right area of that page? | 07:12 |
hno73 | I need some space for search, login, etc | 07:12 |
hno73 | I could skip the logo, or try to work in or around it | 07:13 |
hno73 | It would be good if it looked sensible on both the wiki and the static page | 07:14 |
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highvoltage | hno73: i'm not set on it too hard. | 07:17 |
highvoltage | in fact, i need to redo that, currently the text is part of the image | 07:17 |
highvoltage | i did it that way because i didn't have a css ref handy, and just needed to put something together quickly. | 07:17 |
hno73 | highvoltage: ok, I'm playing with some options too | 07:17 |
highvoltage | i also though that those icons should be smaller | 07:17 |
highvoltage | it feels a bit strange with the very big icons up there. | 07:18 |
hno73 | which? the main icons? | 07:18 |
hno73 | right | 07:18 |
highvoltage | yes, the main icons. | 07:18 |
hno73 | 64x64 might be good | 07:18 |
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hno73 | ok, that gives me some more space too | 07:18 |
highvoltage | currently, the icons themselves are 70x70, and the images 90x90 | 07:18 |
highvoltage | but 64x64 sounds good. | 07:19 |
highvoltage | hno73: do you have any page with a preview, or one that i can see on the wiki with the banner? | 07:19 |
highvoltage | not that i'm rushing you, and not that it's urgent, i'm just curious to see how the text, etc will fit in. | 07:20 |
hno73 | No, it's just local. I can email you screenshots though | 07:20 |
hno73 | There are 6 items in the top right corner here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ | 07:21 |
hno73 | that I need to fit in | 07:21 |
hno73 | I might just move the logo off to the right so that the name is hidden but the circle remains | 07:21 |
hno73 | get the idea? | 07:22 |
highvoltage | ah | 07:22 |
highvoltage | yes. that's very helpful. | 07:22 |
highvoltage | i have another idea. | 07:23 |
highvoltage | what if we keep things more or less where they are, with smaller icons, and then put those two lines (search and login name, etc)... | 07:23 |
highvoltage | in one single line above the icons? | 07:23 |
highvoltage | i feel a bit wary to mess with the position of the logo. | 07:24 |
hno73 | Yeah, could do. You mean small icons on the front page and the wiki? or shrink them for the wiki? | 07:25 |
highvoltage | smaller icons everywhere. | 07:29 |
highvoltage | then we have a consistent look, and i think the smaller icons will look better. | 07:29 |
highvoltage | we want a friendly look, but i'm sure we'll use more graphics withing the site later on, and in the wiki. so we won't loose much friendlyness-factor, i think. | 07:30 |
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highvoltage | hno73: i suppose it will be better for future merges if I call pages wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuScreenshots instead of /Screenshots? | 07:50 |
hno73 | highvoltage: yes, that will help | 08:04 |
highvoltage | hno73: are you managing art.ubuntu.com? do you think we should use that for edubuntu-art, or should there be an art.edubuntu.org as well? | 08:13 |
highvoltage | and what software is behind art.ubuntu.com? | 08:15 |
highvoltage | ok, i need to leave now, been at work now for 16 hours, can't be very healthy :) | 08:20 |
highvoltage | cheers! | 08:20 |
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hno73 | ogra, see: http://www.omma.org.uk/files/temp/ (wiki layout) | 10:59 |
ogra | hno73, ubercool :-D | 11:01 |
hno73 | ogra: just need to code it now :) | 11:01 |
ogra | heh :) | 11:01 |
hno73 | (those are mock-ups) | 11:01 |
ajmitch_ | ah, ogra is here | 11:13 |
ogra | yup | 11:13 |
ajmitch_ | hi | 11:14 |
ajmitch_ | ogra: you need moodle done asap? | 11:15 |
ogra | yup | 11:15 |
ajmitch_ | hm ok | 11:15 |
ogra | i just fixed gcompris, moodle is the only broken app left | 11:15 |
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ogra | but i dont get forward it seems :( | 11:17 |
=== ajmitch_ will so I'll get the 30 lashes if I don't get moodle done tonight ;) | ||
ogra | its not *that* urgent | 11:18 |
ogra | :) | 11:18 |
ajmitch_ | it is if it needs to be promoted to main | 11:20 |
ajmitch_ | I doubt there'll be universe->main promotions once RC is out | 11:20 |
ajmitch_ | and it'll be getting hard even now | 11:20 |
ogra | depends hiw good i am in convincing mdz ;) | 11:21 |
ajmitch_ | he'll need a *lot* of convicing | 11:21 |
ajmitch_ | and moodle will need tested | 11:22 |
ajmitch_ | since db & db user creation is easy to break | 11:22 |
ogra | yup | 11:22 |
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ogra | take your time... if i cant convince mdz ...i cant ... dont worry... | 11:24 |
ajmitch_ | I want to see this in :) | 11:27 |
ajmitch_ | eek, malone above 500 bugs again | 11:29 |
ogra | bddebian will care ;) | 11:29 |
ogra | and \sh should be back tomorrow again :) | 11:29 |
=== ajmitch_ is 2 bugs ahead of bddebian still ;) | ||
ajmitch_ | I think I'll be about 3 point short of 1000 karma now | 11:29 |
ajmitch_ | maybe over with the last activity | 11:31 |
ogra | wow | 11:32 |
ogra | i think i'm around 5 :) | 11:32 |
ajmitch_ | this last week has been busy :) | 11:33 |
ogra | yes, i recognized :) | 11:33 |
ajmitch_ | don't worry | 11:34 |
ajmitch_ | next week will be at least twice as busy, I'm sure ;) | 11:34 |
ajmitch_ | and then you can have a weekend off! | 11:35 |
ogra | hah, if i still have a job after that ... | 11:35 |
ogra | :) | 11:35 |
ajmitch_ | sure you will | 11:36 |
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ogra | heh... lets see if i have a working release | 11:36 |
ajmitch_ | you'd better ;) | 11:36 |
ogra | yes... | 11:37 |
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ajmitch_ | it's another useful app that deps only on php4 | 11:43 |
ajmitch_ | ick | 11:44 |
ogra | hmm, it should depend php4|5 | 11:44 |
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ajmitch_ | he synced it for security without seeing if build-deps were satisfied | 11:45 |
ogra | argh | 11:46 |
ajmitch_ | current source is already built | 11:46 |
ajmitch_ | s/built/'fixed'/ | 11:46 |
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kendrick | hello :) | 11:51 |
kendrick | hi bdoin | 11:52 |
bdoin | hi, good to see tuxpaint around ;) | 11:55 |
kendrick | ;) | 11:55 |
kendrick | working on 0.9.15... slowly. | 11:55 |
kendrick | i might make a half-assed release, just to get it out | 11:55 |
kendrick | i.e., sans some features i was seriously hoping to get in, like stamp cateogory UI | 11:55 |
bdoin | have you seen the stamp category in gcompris ? | 11:58 |
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kendrick | um... probably ;) | 12:00 |
bdoin | there is a scrollbar on the left with a category icon then on the right the small image in a scrollable panel | 12:02 |
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