=== mpt [n=mpt@201-1-135-91.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #edubuntu === KingBahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === fersfeir [n=fernando@201.250.5.203] has left #edubuntu [] === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@67.15.185.40] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-69-220.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu === KingBahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-22-254-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-141-47.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-141-47.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:04] FYI Edubuntu is sitting at #41 on the distrowatch 'last month' list ;) [09:18] very impressive :) [09:19] here is review (with valid points) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/2619 [09:20] most of the critisisms are things we have discussed, and did want to do, we just didn't have the time and resources to acheive them on the first release. I am hoping we can add much more polish to ver 6.04 === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu [09:22] the menu one is going to be a fun one [09:22] for the next release, I should see about getting a zope product a friend & myself are developing into (ed)ubuntu, for providing a commentable document :) [09:22] he's a teacher, so he's planned how to use this product for exam questions, etc === Burgundavia is worried that his new job will make him to able to work on edubuntu [09:23] what will your new job be? [09:23] www.userful.com [09:23] sales and marketing with them [09:23] ah [09:23] they do multiseat stuff, but percieve that Ubuntu might become a competitor [09:24] I really hope you can still contribute [09:24] I am going to hammer it out in writing, don't worry [09:24] might be? I'd say there could be a good chance it will be competitive in some way [09:24] userful's big drive is libraries right now [09:27] proprietary software will increasingly come under pressure from free solutions like ubuntu :) [09:28] indeed [09:28] I don't expect I will work for them for much more than a year [09:31] I'm employed at the moment writing proprietary php code [09:31] but there's no ubuntu overlap at the moment, thankfully [09:32] i got an email before from one company that wanted me to write something for them like an endorsement..hehehe i declined [09:35] what sort of endorsement? :) [09:38] it was dodgy, they were selling services (migration, platform, etc.) and ubuntu was one of their pieces [09:38] i told them they're better off sending an email to silbs [10:06] hmmm kernel update [10:06] brb === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === pere_gone is now known as pere === JaneW REALISES IT'S A gERMAN PUBLIC HOLIDAY SO OGRA WON;T BE IN === JaneW realises caps lock was on [12:13] oops [12:13] sorry ;) [12:17] hm, I was wanting to talk moodle with him, too :) === Yagisan whispers - it's a public holiday in OZ too [12:25] Yagisan: ah right, what you doing here than? [12:26] JaneW: I work from home - I'm always around here somewhere [12:26] ok [12:27] that and its too hot to go out today (35C) [12:37] wow [12:38] it's cool here today.... 17 degs [12:44] we expect about 20C tomorrow. My wife complains about the inconsistent weather here === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu [12:52] JaneW, why is edubuntu not in launchpad? [12:57] spacey: er... [12:57] spacey: what do you mean exactly? [12:57] for Rosetta? [12:58] just in general [12:58] err..why? [12:58] for bugs and stuff [12:58] its still ubuntu [12:58] bugs should be in bugzilla [12:58] yeah ok its main [12:58] launchpad has lots of nifty features [12:58] :P [12:59] malone is for universe at the moment [01:00] support tickets :P calendar :P uhhh [01:00] ok not too much atm then [01:00] bugfiling with launchpad is really nice :P === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === hno73 [n=hno73@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [03:38] highvolt1ge: any progress on the website look? I'm looking at the moin skin now [03:38] I'm using various gartoon icons where needed === vincenzio [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [03:45] highvoltage: what's the word on the webpage? [03:46] I've been working on the moin skin a bit [03:46] hno73: sorry about that, bad signal [03:46] hno73: yes, i'm uploading new page now, have been in meeting all day, going back in about 5 min [03:46] np [03:47] hold on.. [03:47] ok, thx [03:47] http://www.ossn.co.za/edubuntu/4/ [03:47] tonight i'm turning all those wiki links into real pages. [03:48] great, I'll match up the wiki skin to that [03:48] elmo seems to be a bit busy though, but i'll stay on his case. do you perhaps know the name of the server the edubuntu site will be hosted on? i have a login, but forgot the server name :/ [03:48] hno73: excellent, you're the man! [03:49] highvoltage: I don't know, but I have access to empty servers if we are really stuck [04:10] highvoltage: http://www.ossn.co.za/edubuntu/4/ looks great [04:10] highvoltage: I'd increase the font size in the bar on the RHS though, to match the bold cartoony icons === rcdiugun [n=Charo@AP-203.167.1.205.sysads.com] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089DD22.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:21] looks really nice [04:31] hav'a question. Will Edubuntu be released on the same date as ubuntu? [04:36] should be, yes [04:37] but as I understood on Oliver, it might be pushed if there are serious problems, since we don't have the same pressure, but it's in that case a matter of days [04:38] ah i see. I just read about it now and it suddenly got me thinking about a long-standing project of mine. [04:39] Edubuntu just might be able to help me out with the project. :) [04:40] aha [04:40] do tell if you can [04:43] Yupyup! :D If I get my logistics straightened out (and get enough support from city hall and a couple other orgs in the area) I hope to use edubuntu for a free summer computer camp project for public school kids and/or out-of-school youths here. :) [04:49] rcdiugun, sounds like its suited for such a thing :) [04:50] rcdiugun: edubuntu would probably ease your setup [04:50] and by next summer, edubuntu should be way better too :) [05:19] /topic === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === rcdiugun [n=Charo@AP-203.167.1.205.sysads.com] has left #edubuntu [] === collins21 [n=collins@pcp01095737pcs.tsclos01.al.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === collins21 [n=collins@pcp01095737pcs.tsclos01.al.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:12] highvoltage: How set are you on the top right area of that page? [07:12] I need some space for search, login, etc [07:13] I could skip the logo, or try to work in or around it [07:14] It would be good if it looked sensible on both the wiki and the static page === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu [07:17] hno73: i'm not set on it too hard. [07:17] in fact, i need to redo that, currently the text is part of the image [07:17] i did it that way because i didn't have a css ref handy, and just needed to put something together quickly. [07:17] highvoltage: ok, I'm playing with some options too [07:17] i also though that those icons should be smaller [07:18] it feels a bit strange with the very big icons up there. [07:18] which? the main icons? [07:18] right [07:18] yes, the main icons. [07:18] 64x64 might be good === highvoltage thinks so too [07:18] ok, that gives me some more space too [07:18] currently, the icons themselves are 70x70, and the images 90x90 [07:19] but 64x64 sounds good. [07:19] hno73: do you have any page with a preview, or one that i can see on the wiki with the banner? [07:20] not that i'm rushing you, and not that it's urgent, i'm just curious to see how the text, etc will fit in. [07:20] No, it's just local. I can email you screenshots though [07:21] There are 6 items in the top right corner here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ [07:21] that I need to fit in [07:21] I might just move the logo off to the right so that the name is hidden but the circle remains [07:22] get the idea? [07:22] ah [07:22] yes. that's very helpful. [07:23] i have another idea. [07:23] what if we keep things more or less where they are, with smaller icons, and then put those two lines (search and login name, etc)... [07:23] in one single line above the icons? [07:24] i feel a bit wary to mess with the position of the logo. [07:25] Yeah, could do. You mean small icons on the front page and the wiki? or shrink them for the wiki? [07:29] smaller icons everywhere. [07:29] then we have a consistent look, and i think the smaller icons will look better. [07:30] we want a friendly look, but i'm sure we'll use more graphics withing the site later on, and in the wiki. so we won't loose much friendlyness-factor, i think. === pere is now known as pere_gone [07:50] hno73: i suppose it will be better for future merges if I call pages wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuScreenshots instead of /Screenshots? [08:04] highvoltage: yes, that will help [08:13] hno73: are you managing art.ubuntu.com? do you think we should use that for edubuntu-art, or should there be an art.edubuntu.org as well? [08:15] and what software is behind art.ubuntu.com? [08:20] ok, i need to leave now, been at work now for 16 hours, can't be very healthy :) [08:20] cheers! === ogra [n=ogra@p5089ED56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@bla31-1-82-228-70-121.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=spacey@flits102-162.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089ED56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089ED56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:59] ogra, see: http://www.omma.org.uk/files/temp/ (wiki layout) [11:01] hno73, ubercool :-D [11:01] ogra: just need to code it now :) [11:01] heh :) [11:01] (those are mock-ups) [11:13] ah, ogra is here [11:13] yup [11:14] hi [11:15] ogra: you need moodle done asap? [11:15] yup [11:15] hm ok [11:15] i just fixed gcompris, moodle is the only broken app left === ogra is currently biting his teeth into #12942 [11:17] but i dont get forward it seems :( === ajmitch_ will so I'll get the 30 lashes if I don't get moodle done tonight ;) [11:18] its not *that* urgent [11:18] :) [11:20] it is if it needs to be promoted to main [11:20] I doubt there'll be universe->main promotions once RC is out [11:20] and it'll be getting hard even now [11:21] depends hiw good i am in convincing mdz ;) [11:21] he'll need a *lot* of convicing [11:22] and moodle will need tested [11:22] since db & db user creation is easy to break [11:22] yup === ajmitch_ is at work now, so will have to work on it in ~8 hours [11:24] take your time... if i cant convince mdz ...i cant ... dont worry... [11:27] I want to see this in :) [11:29] eek, malone above 500 bugs again [11:29] bddebian will care ;) [11:29] and \sh should be back tomorrow again :) === ajmitch_ is 2 bugs ahead of bddebian still ;) [11:29] I think I'll be about 3 point short of 1000 karma now [11:31] maybe over with the last activity [11:32] wow [11:32] i think i'm around 5 :) [11:33] this last week has been busy :) [11:33] yes, i recognized :) [11:34] don't worry [11:34] next week will be at least twice as busy, I'm sure ;) [11:35] and then you can have a weekend off! [11:35] hah, if i still have a job after that ... [11:35] :) [11:36] sure you will === ajmitch_ might not ;) [11:36] heh... lets see if i have a working release [11:36] you'd better ;) [11:37] yes... === ajmitch_ gets busy on phpmyadmin [11:43] it's another useful app that deps only on php4 [11:44] ick [11:44] hmm, it should depend php4|5 === ajmitch_ must hunt down pitti [11:45] he synced it for security without seeing if build-deps were satisfied [11:46] argh [11:46] current source is already built [11:46] s/built/'fixed'/ === fersfeir [n=fernando@201.250.21.218] has joined #edubuntu === kendrick [i=nbs@bolt.sonic.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:51] hello :) [11:52] hi bdoin [11:55] hi, good to see tuxpaint around ;) [11:55] ;) [11:55] working on 0.9.15... slowly. [11:55] i might make a half-assed release, just to get it out [11:55] i.e., sans some features i was seriously hoping to get in, like stamp cateogory UI [11:58] have you seen the stamp category in gcompris ? === hno73 [n=hno73@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #edubuntu [] === ogra [n=ogra@p5089ED56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:00] um... probably ;) [12:02] there is a scrollbar on the left with a category icon then on the right the small image in a scrollable panel