[12:32] <slow-motion> n8
[12:40] <`Nomad> Hi all, I can't seem to find a list of system requirements for Ubuntu.. A friend of mine is asking if SMP is ok.. I presume yes but I don't know
[12:40] <`Nomad> anyone?
[12:40] <seth_k|away> sure, Ubuntu has SMP kernels
[12:40] <kalenedrael> SMP? As in multi-processor support?
[12:41] <kalenedrael> Yes, Ubuntu has kernels built for SMP. Alternatively, you can build your own kernel, which is what I would recommend.
[12:41] <seth_k|away> `Nomad, you only waited like 30 seconds before asking "anyone?" :P IRC takes a bit sometimes
[12:41] <kalenedrael> According to me he waited five seconds.
[12:41] <seth_k|away> even better
[12:41] <Tonio-> hy everyone
[12:41] <seth_k|away> but anyways
[12:42] <seth_k|away> SMP is great
[12:42] <Tonio-> little question concernin konqueror
[12:42] <`Nomad> lol
[12:42] <Tonio-> how to make "windows" menu back in filebrowsing profile ?????
[12:42] <`Nomad> I meant to put it at the end of the sentence, it was not impatience.. :)
[12:42] <Tonio-> between "configuration" and "help"
[12:43] <`Nomad> I was sure it would do SMP of course.  he seems to be unable to install it though.  Is there any particular thing to do?
[12:44] <seth_k|away> sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp
[12:44] <seth_k|away> or whichever one you need
[12:44] <PeerSoft> hey everyone
[12:44] <PeerSoft> I installed Kubuntu
[12:45] <`Nomad> seth_k; But on a brand new install though.
[12:45] <PeerSoft> now how in the hell do I get my modem to worK? lx
[12:45] <qos> how can i change my screen resolution to 1600x1080? it's not in the drop down list ...
[12:45] <seth_k|away> `Nomad, that's fine
[12:45] <PeerSoft> i know its supported
[12:45] <seth_k|away> just apt-get it
[12:45] <seth_k|away> PeerSoft what kind of modem?
[12:45] <`Nomad> ok
[12:45] <`Nomad> thanks
[12:45] <PeerSoft> PCtel Platinum v90
[12:45] <seth_k|away> qos, kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:45] <PeerSoft> i seen on a website thats it is supported
[12:45] <seth_k|away> and add the mode to each colour depth
[12:46] <ilba7r> !ati x300
[12:46] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, ilba7r
[12:47] <PeerSoft> and when I go to KPPP to setup the connection
[12:47] <PeerSoft> and I query modem it says its not there lol
[12:47] <PeerSoft> or unable to open modem
[12:48] <qos> where can i see what depth my screen supports?
[12:48] <PeerSoft> mk, so noone can help me? ;\
[12:49] <seth_k|away> qos, add it for all of them
[12:49] <seth_k|away> that way if you change depths you can still use your high res
[12:49] <seth_k|away> PeerSoft, I dunno
[12:49] <qos> done, so whats next?
[12:49] <PeerSoft> hrm, well that sucks lol
[12:49] <seth_k|away> save and restart x server
[12:49] <qos> k
[12:50] <PeerSoft> talking to me seth?
[12:50] <seth_k|away> no
[12:50] <seth_k|away> qos
[12:50] <PeerSoft> oh
[12:50] <seth_k|away> PeerSoft, try #ubuntu
[12:50] <seth_k|away> this isn't a KDE issue so they may have answers too
[12:50] <PeerSoft> i am
[12:50] <PeerSoft> ;x
[12:50] <seth_k|away> ok
[12:51] <qos> uhmm, nothing new in the list ... seems that i did something wrong
[12:51] <seth_k|away> ok
[12:51] <seth_k|away> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:51] <seth_k|away> paste your xorg.conf there
[12:52] <qos> ok
[12:52] <seth_k|away> ok
[12:52] <seth_k|away> looking now
[12:53] <seth_k|away> oh I'm sorry
[12:53] <seth_k|away> I didn't explain how to do it
[12:53] <seth_k|away> let me edit your file and show you the proper way
[12:53] <qos> okay
[12:54] <seth_k|away> okay, look at my posted version
[12:55] <seth_k|away> you may want to remove that modeline as well; I am not sure if it will affect things
[12:55] <qos> i see... thx. wait a moment. ill give it a try
[12:58] <charles> i am wanting to change my kernel from the default installed i386 to i686-smp, and i was wondering what all i need to do in order to install the i686-smp kernel and if i can then remove the i386 one and the related packages or if i still need them?
[12:58] <seth_k|away> linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp is the package you want
[12:58] <seth_k|away> and you can remove the 386 kernel afterwards
[12:58] <seth_k|away> however, I would suggest booting into the smp kernel once
[12:58] <hydrogen> definatly
[12:58] <seth_k|away> to ensure you don't get stuck with no kernels
[12:59] <charles> ok, thank you
[12:59] <PeerSoft> lol seems like noone knows how to install the modem 'x
[01:00] <seth_k|away> modems are pretty rare in linux
[01:00] <PeerSoft> yea i understand that
[01:00] <PeerSoft> but some of us still use em
[01:00] <seth_k|away> yep
[01:00] <PeerSoft> and this one website on sourceforge says it is compatable
[01:00] <seth_k|away> I'm just saying that it's rather hard to get spuport for them
[01:02] <qos> 1280x1024 runs well now, but there is no 1600x1080 in the list :(
[01:04] <seth_k|away> qos, you have a 2005FPW?
[01:04] <qos> yeah
[01:04] <seth_k|away> okay
[01:05] <seth_k|away> let's see /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:05] <seth_k|away> post to pastebin
[01:06] <qos> done
[01:07] <seth_k|away> hmmm
[01:07] <seth_k|away> #
[01:07] <seth_k|away> (II) RADEON(0): Not using mode "1600x1080" (no mode of this name)
[01:08] <seth_k|away> I would check my 2005fpw, but I'm not at home
[01:08] <seth_k|away> try the fglrx driver, maybe?
[01:08] <qos> i think its already installed
[01:08] <seth_k|away> if it is, you'r enot using it
[01:08] <seth_k|away> you're using the ati driver
[01:08] <qos> how to check this?
[01:09] <seth_k|away> it was in your xorg.conf
[01:09] <seth_k|away> # 
[01:09] <seth_k|away>         Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Mobility 9600/9700 M10/M11 (RV350 NP)"
[01:09] <seth_k|away> #
[01:09] <seth_k|away>         Driver    "ati"
[01:09] <seth_k|away> change that to Driver "fglrx"
[01:10] <qos> will the fglrx driver run with a ati radeon card? i guess its for nvidia cards...
[01:10] <seth_k|away> no
[01:10] <seth_k|away> the fglrx driver is for ati cards
[01:10] <seth_k|away> it will run great, I have a radeon mobility with which I am typing this right now ;)
[01:11] <qos> :) k, saved and a new try
[01:13] <unholy> I havent used kubuntu yet, but Id like to know if its possible to have both the gnome and kde desktops and applications?
[01:13] <seth_k|away> unholy, yes it is
[01:14] <seth_k|away> I would suggest installing Ubuntu, then in terminal: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:14] <seth_k|away> that will bring in the default KDE packages
[01:14] <unholy> thanks seth_k|away. Ive been using mandriva for a few years now, but (k)ubuntu sounds and looks great.
[01:28] <seth_k|away> I guess qos got it working, he didn't come back
[01:28] <seth_k|away> grood
[01:34] <qos> re,
[01:34] <qos> driver runs, the control says that i cant adjust the screen anymore ...
[01:37] <PeerSoft> I looked @ the info center on kubuntu.. and it says my modems an unknown device - but it does read it ;x
[01:39] <PeerSoft> does lspci -l show pci devices?
[01:56] <konfuzed> hey there whats the best choice for playing WM9 wmv  files ?
[01:58] <zxsykco> I hear mplayer is the way to go but I use kaffeine!
[01:59] <nalioth> konfuzed: use the player of your choice
[01:59] <nalioth> konfuzed: just make sure you have the codecs
[02:02] <konfuzed> is there a handy player with the codecs included??
[02:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell konfuzed about w32codecs
[02:04] <kalenedrael> !tell konfuzed about w32codecs
[02:04] <kalenedrael> ~tell konfuzed about w32codecs
[02:05] <kalenedrael> er...
[02:05] <kalenedrael> Damn it, it must not be responding or something
[02:05] <konfuzed> oh its working
[02:05] <kalenedrael> Ok.
[02:05] <konfuzed> I get it in a memo window
[02:05] <kalenedrael> Ok.
[02:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kalenedrael about msg the bot
[02:15] <excession> Hey all. I'm having some trouble getting hardware acceleration to work with my Radeon X800. I followed the tutorial in the ubuntu forums, but no luck...
[02:17] <kalenedrael> ATI's drivers suck.
[02:17] <excession> I've also tried using the graphical installer from the ati site, but same deal.
[02:17] <excession> Ah, they do?
[02:17] <excession> So...I'm probably better off installing windows?
[02:18] <nalioth> excession: the search for perfection in linux is far better than windows any day
[02:20] <excession> I'm sure it is, friend...but after spending four or fivr hours just trying to get hardware acceleration happening...well, I'm not sure I'm possessed of the constitution require to continue searching.
[02:20] <excession> If you know what I mean.
[02:20] <excession> *required
[02:21] <inc|freaky> hey guys look at my kewl screenshots :D http://pics.freakyy.de/gallery2/v/screens/
[02:23] <excession> As things stand I can't even drag a selection box around icons without it getting choppy. Let alone play MP3s in Amarok, but thats a whole other drama. Right now I just want my ati drivers to work.
[02:23] <excession> Grr, damn you ati!
[02:24] <excession> inc|freaky: Nice screenshots. You've got see-through menus and all.
[02:25] <inc|freaky> yea :D
[02:30] <excession> Hmm, fglrxinfo says I'm still using mesa. 
[03:07] <DaSkreech> Is there a changelist yet from hoary to Breezy?
[03:08] <crimsun> there's a _huge_ changelist
[03:09] <crimsun> it's called the breezy-changes mailing list, which is so backlogged that the recent changes haven't been archived
[03:09] <DaSkreech> crimsun: Where is it?
[03:09] <crimsun> lists.u.c
[03:09] <DaSkreech> Oh So no List of important stuf?
[03:09] <DaSkreech> That I could mail someone?
[03:10] <crimsun> you might want to look at the Breezy goals then
[03:10] <crimsun> we won't have an official changelog til the 13th
[03:11] <DaSkreech> drat :-)
[03:11] <DaSkreech> Where ae the Breezy Goals?
[03:16] <crimsun> DaSkreech: search the wiki :)
[03:17] <TokenBad> man I gotta learn perl..just so can get some scripts to work with xchat
[03:21] <dashrike> call me stupid, but Win and Linux can both read off the same partitions, right?
[03:27] <god-zero> Does anyone know how to rip the audio from a dvd to cd (wav or ogg step ok)
[03:28] <god-zero> we mad a dvd of a speeck, but we want to make a cd also
[03:28] <god-zero> made speech
[03:28] <dashrike> ooo a mad speck? :P
[03:28] <dashrike> sorry, I have no ideas for you :P
[03:29] <god-zero> the source files are wm9.. (was done on windows... not my fault)
[03:29] <dashrike> I am better with windows that with linux
[03:30] <mrplant> any shadow warrior / duke 3d fans here ;) that would like to help me getting it to work on breezy?
[03:30] <mrplant> i managed to compile shadow warrior but
[03:30] <mrplant> it freezes after entering the level
[03:30] <mrplant> ;(
[03:31] <god-zero> kaffiene crashes every time I try to record stream
[03:31] <mrplant> k, im going to sleep then
[03:31] <mrplant> gn8
[03:31] <rskrodzki> grrr, crap I have no patience at all today.
[03:34] <epiloc> how can i operate as root in konqueror?
[03:35] <epiloc> so that i may rename/move/copy/cut files and folders without using the command line?
[03:44] <Tortel> im BORED
[03:44] <TokenBad> anyone know perl?
[03:44] <Tortel> any ideas on how to fix?
[03:45] <Tortel> nope
[03:45] <Phily> Tortel: fix your bordem
[03:45] <Tortel> i know a little of python
[03:46] <dashrike> anybody have PC parts they want to donate? :P
[03:46] <Tortel> PSU?
[03:46] <Tortel> 350 watt?
[03:46] <Tortel> no shipping for me?
[03:46] <Tortel> :P
[03:46] <TokenBad> got 2 perl scripts for xchat
[03:46] <dashrike> already have a 500
[03:46] <TokenBad> one...one part works
[03:46] <TokenBad> but the other don't
[03:46] <Tortel> :o
[03:46] <dashrike> if you had a UPS, it might be different
[03:46] <TokenBad> and the other script
[03:46] <TokenBad> none of it works
[03:47] <Tortel> if i had a UPS, i would be usin it
[03:47] <dashrike> anybody played the game Re-Volt?
[03:48] <Tortel> omg, its not in the list!!!?!
[03:48] <dashrike> QIII any good?
[03:48] <dashrike> o.O?
[03:48] <Tortel> omg
[03:48] <Tortel> noOOO!
[03:48] <dashrike> I've never played it
[03:48] <dashrike> UT fan myself
[03:48] <Tortel> (im usin debian)
[03:48] <BlankB> tortel: q2 has a native linux binary. I think.
[03:49] <Phily> quake 2 + 3 has both native binairies
[03:49] <Tortel> i thought it was in the apt list...
[03:50] <BlankB> I think it is . pool/multiverse/q/quake2/quake2_0.3-1_i386.deb
[03:50] <Tortel> omfg
[03:50] <Tortel> :O
[03:52] <TokenBad> where is that at?
[03:53] <TokenBad> or how get it?
[03:53] <BlankB> enable the multiverse repository.
[03:53] <epiloc> apt-get install quake2!!!!!!!
[03:54] <TokenBad> I did apt-cache search quake and didn't see that
[03:54] <epiloc> you need to enable the repo
[03:54] <TokenBad> all the repos are enabled
[03:55] <TokenBad> well got error after it installed and I typed quake2
[03:56] <TokenBad> oh well
[03:56] <TokenBad> it was worth a shot
[03:57] <TokenBad> anyone help with the errors
[03:57] <TokenBad> or figure out why it not work?
[03:57] <Tortel> so, is KDE worth trying?
[03:57] <BlankB> i just tried it and got a sound error. looking at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22920
[03:58] <TokenBad> I got ok with sound
[03:58] <TokenBad> its other errors for me
[03:58] <Tortel> i like how simple gnome is
[03:58] <TokenBad> can anyone tell me why quake2 not work?
[03:59] <nalioth> Tortel: there are dozens of Desktop manglers. try them all
[04:01] <TokenBad> or can someone tell me what the errors it gives mean?
[04:03] <jsubl2> !nvidia
[04:03] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:03] <TokenBad> loading oss sound output driver, ok
[04:03] <TokenBad> /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[04:03] <TokenBad> SNDDMA_Init: Could not mmap /dev/dsp.
[04:09] <epiloc>  how do i confugre home directories and set up users/pw with proftpd?
[04:22] <cddesjar> ubotu
[04:23] <cddesjar> !mp3
[04:23] <Glin|Jol> Winamp 5.10 paused
[04:23] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[04:23] <dashrike> my np script ate itself
[04:23] <chx> I have repeated problems with KATE: I press Ctrl+S and it hangs.
[04:25] <cddesjar> hey how do i get mp3s to work?
[04:25] <dashrike> insert them into a player
[04:26] <dashrike> poke the little triangley button [often referred to as "play"] 
[04:26] <dashrike> adjust speaker volume accordingly
[04:26] <cddesjar> nevermind
[04:26] <dashrike> :P
[04:26] <dashrike> I excel at stupid answers :P
[04:26] <cddesjar> i ment akode-mpeg
[04:26] <TokenBad> /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[04:27] <TokenBad> SNDDMA_Init: Could not mmap /dev/dsp.
[04:27] <TokenBad> anyone know what that means?
[04:41] <TokenBad> Questions
[04:41] <TokenBad> Am I going crazy,
[04:41] <TokenBad> All my life a little hazy?
[04:41] <TokenBad> Am I going insane,
[04:41] <TokenBad> How can I avoid the endless pain?
[04:41] <TokenBad> sorry
[04:41] <god-zero> reboot
[04:41] <TokenBad> wrong channel
[04:50] <cyfer> hi all 
[04:52] <cyfer> hiiiiiiiiiiiii
[04:52] <Spudchat> hi everyone
[04:52] <phil_> hello Spudchat 
[04:52] <cyfer> hi Spudchat
[04:52] <Spudchat> does anyone know of a program to cap bandwith ?
[04:52] <Spudchat> hi guys :)
[04:52] <cyfer> :)))) hahahahaha
[04:52] <phil_> Spudchat: A hardware roouter or use shrewall
[04:52] <cyfer> man i searched for a week for it 
[04:52] <phil_> shorewall
[04:53] <Spudchat> ok thanks...im tryin to game but i only have 1.7 k left :(
[04:53] <cyfer> is it to cap or uncap?
[04:53] <phil_> Spudchat: what do u mean 1.7 k left
[04:53] <Spudchat> of my bandwith only 1.7 is left free
[04:54] <Spudchat> im sendin a file to someone but want it to go slower
[04:54] <phil_> Spudchat: 1.7 kilobyte thats like 5 minutes on irc
[04:54] <Spudchat> ?
[04:54] <Spudchat> noooo the file is  huge...its a home video eheh
[04:54] <phil_> Spudchat: and a couple google search
[04:56] <cyfer> guys ..anyone can help with satcard ?
[04:58] <Spudchat> ok thanks that seems to be a start to the solution :)
[04:58] <Spudchat> see ya guys later
[05:01] <jmg> feh.
[05:01] <jmg> parted isnt as good as i hoped
[05:04] <nalioth> parted isnt partition magic, no
[05:04] <nalioth> but it works mighty fine for what it is
[05:05] <jmg> i need to resize and move my root around
[05:05] <jmg> and i dont have windows :(
[05:05] <satafterh> is breezy pretty stable now?
[05:05] <jmg> satafterh: looks it
[05:06] <satafterh> are you using it?
[05:06] <jmg> yes
[05:06] <satafterh> hows it working for you?
[05:06] <dashrike> you can change partition size after creating them?
[05:07] <jmg> dashrike: parted supports resize but not move
[05:07] <dashrike> oh, ok
[05:08] <MrShifty|lappy> can anyone help me get a dlink g122 set up with Hoary PPC?
[05:10] <MrShifty|lappy> the problem is that ndiswrapper is not included (?) with kubuntu, and I can't find it with synaptic
[05:12] <satafterh> what souce do we add to the source list to get breezy?
[05:12] <jmg> satafterh: change hoary to breezy
[05:13] <satafterh> ok thanks, i thought so but  wasnt sure
[05:14] <jmg> MrShifty|lappy: sorry ive never had to do that (ndiswrapper)
[05:14] <nalioth> MrShifty|lappy: ndiswrapper doesnt work on ppc
[05:15] <jmg> nalioth: good point
[05:15] <MrShifty|lappy> nalioth: is there something else I could use instead?
[05:15] <jmg> MrShifty|lappy: no
[05:15] <MrShifty|lappy> hrm...
[05:16] <nalioth> MrShifty|lappy: you should take your dlink back to the store (if possible) and research an adaptor that is supported by linux o-o-t-b
[05:16] <nalioth> jmg: there is lots he can do
[05:16] <MrShifty|lappy> k
[05:16] <nalioth> MrShifty|lappy: i use a netgear ma111
[05:16] <nalioth> on my ibook
[05:16] <jmg> nothing he can do with dlink
[05:18] <MrShifty|lappy> I didn't have high hopes for this dlink, anyway. It was on sale, though ;)
[05:19] <nalioth> take it back and get your money
[05:19] <MrShifty|lappy> I shalll
[05:19] <nalioth> on ppc you either use a supported usb device or one of those 'extenders" that plugs into your ethernet
[05:20] <MrShifty|lappy> k
[05:21] <MrShifty|lappy> you said netgear ma111, right?
[05:21] <nalioth> MrShifty|lappy: yup
[05:21] <MrShifty|lappy> cool
[05:21] <nalioth> they are out of production. and you can get them refurbished for >$25 (they still are available new)
[05:22] <god-zero> I got that dvd video to cd audio transcode done. ogg tools are great
[05:25] <MrShifty|lappy> nalioth: where did you get the linux drivers for your ma111?
[05:25] <nalioth> MrShifty|lappy: they already live in your box
[05:25] <MrShifty|lappy> oh
[05:25] <nalioth> MrShifty|lappy: linux doesnt have "drivers" per se
[05:26] <nalioth> MrShifty|lappy: the kernel contains all that is necessary (and if it doesnt, modules are compiled for it)
[05:27] <MrShifty|lappy> how can I figure out if the precompiled kernal supports, say, a wg111?
[05:27] <nalioth> i dont know
[05:27] <nalioth> MrShifty|lappy: join #ubuntu and ask bob2
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> lsmod probably
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> if its not there modprobe it in (but im no expert)
[05:39] <TokenBad> how can you install a deb file and have it also install any dep it needs?
[05:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> apt.
[05:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> or install the deb, tehn 'apt-get -f install'
[05:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> might work
[05:41] <TokenBad> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of quake2:
[05:41] <TokenBad>  quake2 depends on libao2 (>= 0.8.6); however:
[05:41] <TokenBad> it errors out
[05:41] <TokenBad> and will not install without the dep
[05:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> try dpkg --ignore-depends /path/to/deb/file.deb
[05:43] <TokenBad> sudo dpkg --ignore-depends quake2_0.3-1.1_i386.deb
[05:43] <TokenBad> gives me error
[05:43] <TokenBad> says needs an action option
[05:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, try dpkg -i --ignore depends /deb/file.deb
[05:45] <TokenBad> that don't work either
[05:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> :/
[05:46] <nalioth> tried installing libao2?
[05:46] <TokenBad> nalioth?
[05:46] <TokenBad> says I have that installed already
[05:47] <nalioth> obviously not. look in *ynaptic and see
[05:47] <TokenBad> I just did apt-get install libao2
[05:47] <TokenBad> says already there
[05:48] <TokenBad> yep
[05:48] <TokenBad> says installed
[05:49] <nalioth> TokenBad: dpkg --force-help
[05:49] <TokenBad> quake2 depends on libao2 (>= 0.8.6); however:
[05:49] <TokenBad>   Version of libao2 on system is 0.8.5-1ubuntu2.
[05:49] <TokenBad> thats why
[05:49] <TokenBad>  quake2 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:
[05:49] <TokenBad>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14.
[05:50] <TokenBad> thats the 2 errors
[05:50] <TokenBad> oh well
[05:56] <KiwiKibi> "Linux Gains Lossless Filesystem -- Log-structured filesystems write down all data in a continuous log-like format that is only appended to, never overwritten. The approach is said to reduce seek times, as well as minimizing the kind of data loss that occurs with conventional Linux filesystems.  For example, data loss occurs on ext3 filesystems when the system crashes during a write...
[05:56] <KiwiKibi> ...operation. When the system reboots, the journal notes that the write did not complete, and any partial data writes are lost."
[06:02] <jmg> KiwiKibi: ?
[06:04] <nalioth> KiwiKibi: c'mon, where's the rest?
[06:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
[06:05] <KiwiKibi> http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?r400267972
[06:12] <KiwiKibi> the NILFS file system will become the de-facto standard FS, i predict.
[06:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats nice dear... white with 1 thanks
[06:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;p
[06:26] <cyne> why isn't 'Math' present in the Kubunto package?
[06:27] <Tm_T> Kubunto ?
[06:27] <cyne> Kubuntu
[06:27] <Tm_T> :p
[06:27] <cyne> Openoffice.org math
[06:27] <cyne> :P
[06:27] <cyne> looks like there's a oppenoffice2 packages
[06:27] <cyne> is it safe to just install them with kynaptic?
[06:27] <Tm_T> yu
[06:28] <cyne> after removing openoffice org?
[06:28] <cyne> what is "yu" ?
[06:28] <Tm_T> you can have them both, but no reason to
[06:28] <Tm_T> yup
[06:28] <cyne> 2 is the latest version isn't it?
[06:28] <cyne> nice
[06:28] <Tm_T> yes
[06:28] <cyne> thanks Tm_T !
[06:28] <Tm_T> how about Koffice?
[06:28] <cyne> what is koffice?
[06:29] <Tm_T> :p
[06:29] <Tm_T> koffice.kde.org
[06:30] <cyne> holy f#$% that looks like a good app
[06:30] <cyne> it has everything
[06:30] <Tm_T> ;)
[06:31] <nalioth> and will eat your system for breakfast
[06:31] <cyne> will it run on the hoary hedgehog ?
[06:31] <cyne> nalioth: why?
[06:31] <Tm_T> cyne: sure it runs
[06:31] <Tm_T> nalioth: nope
[06:31] <nalioth> cyne: it is a load on the system
[06:31] <cyne> why?
[06:31] <cyne> every program is a load on the system
[06:32] <nalioth> i find java apps pull more than their share of load
[06:32] <Tm_T> nalioth: Koffice isn't java ;)
[06:32] <chavo> koffice is k
[06:32] <jmg> anyone know why diveintopython is installed by default? :)
[06:33] <jmg> im not complaining i just find it... humorous..
[06:33] <jmg> in a nerdish way
[06:33] <Tm_T> jmg: remove it and find out what's missing ;)
[06:34] <shik45> i am having a problem apting Fireifx from Backports repo
[06:34] <nalioth> shik45: dont use backports
[06:34] <shik45> then what repo should i use
[06:34] <shik45> for Firefox
[06:34] <nalioth> if you MUST have the latest firefox, you should get it from mozilla.org
[06:35] <shik45> fine
[06:38] <KiwiKibi> nalioth: bleeding edge
[06:39] <nalioth> bleeding edges hurt
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, but the adrenaline :::DD:D
[06:43] <god-zero> Does anybody know if that sebastian kid had luck with his kubuntu install this morning?
[06:43] <cyne> when i try and uninstall openoffice.org, kynaptic wants to uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[06:43] <cyne> what's up with that?
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> its a metta package that depends on OO.o
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> breezy will use oo.o2, if your interested
[06:44] <cyne> Kamping_Kaiser: why won't it use Koffice?
[06:44] <cyne> what was the decision there?
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure.
[06:45] <billytwowilly> hi, In kde menus I don't get any text showing.
[06:45] <billytwowilly> how do I fix this?
[06:46] <cyne> Kamping_Kaiser: what happens if i upgrade to oo.o2 in hh ?
[06:46] <cyne> Kamping_Kaiser: i don't want to leave oo.o1 on there as well, but if i remove it my kubuntu-desktop dies
[06:47] <cyne> it's just the way it is i suppose :)
[06:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> cyne: if you remove oo.o (and therefore kubuntu-desktop) the upgrade wont be happy, so re-add kubuntu-desktop before you dist-upgrade, and you should be ok
[06:47] <billytwowilly> firefox appears to show text fine. Only kde apps don't show text.
[06:48] <cyne> Kamping_Kaiser: nice, thanks
[06:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> billytwowilly: i dont know :(
[06:50] <billytwowilly> text shows up in root too.
[06:50] <billytwowilly> weird
[06:50] <billytwowilly> deleted .kde
[06:50] <billytwowilly> in /home/chris
[06:50] <billytwowilly> still no text for my user
[06:50] <cyne> anyone know what kubuntu-desktop package is?
[06:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> cyne: its a meta-package
[06:51] <cyne> i just removed it and my desktop is still there
[06:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> it depends on all the 'standard' packages for kubuntu installs
[06:51] <cyne> meta for what
[06:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> so if you do a server install, by installing kubuntu-desktop its like doing a full install
[06:51] <cyne> why do i need it
[06:52] <cyne> ok still not sure why i need it?
[06:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> unless its been fixed, when you upgrade to breezy, the upgrade wont be cliean without it
[06:52] <KiwiKibi> why should desktop be removed if OO is?
[06:52] <cyne> ok...
[06:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> KiwiKibi: because oo.o is part of the default desktop
[06:53] <cyne> Kamping_Kaiser: i can't get breezy though :( it's still in beta no?
[06:53] <KiwiKibi> that's butt ugly
[06:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> cyne: yeh, stable in 10 days
[06:54] <cyne> nice
[06:54] <cyne> i can live without oo2 for 10 days :)
[06:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol cool :D
[06:54] <billytwowilly> there.
[06:54] <billytwowilly> fixed it.
[06:55] <billytwowilly> randomly deleting .* in the home dir is fun and educational.
[06:56] <KiwiKibi> nutz
[07:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> :o
[07:07] <KiwiKibi> is lvm well behaved in Kubuntu?
[07:07] <jmg> yeah, as well as it is on debian
[07:08] <KiwiKibi> lvm creeps me out
[07:15] <peersoft> I was in here eariler bout a modem problem it was saying "unable to open modem" well I cant gain complete root access ;\
[07:16] <peersoft>  and /dev/modem isnt even in there
[07:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you create teh simlink will it work?
[07:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> or point it at the correct stty?
[07:48] <inc|freaky> whats the version of badger again?
[07:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> 5.10
[08:14] <brad> 
[08:14] <brad> hello
[08:31] <bjv> the file 'openal-config'      i need it to compile some software
[08:32] <bjv> i have apt-gotten      libopenal0 and libopenal-dev
[08:32] <bjv> a google search has shown a slackware openal package that contains  'openal-config'
[08:32] <bjv> dpkg shows that my   libopenal0   file  does _not_ contain the config script
[08:33] <bjv> help?
[08:40] <mornfall> bjv: libopenal-dev
[08:40] <mornfall> --> work
[08:41] <xeniux> hello is there a mp3 file sharing channel in this server?
[08:41] <bjv> mornfall:  :(
[08:41] <bjv> root@ubuntu:/mnt/data/tmp/scorched # dpkg --contents /var/cache/apt/archives/libopenal-dev_0.2004090900-1.1_i386.deb | grep config
[08:41] <bjv> root@ubuntu:/mnt/data/tmp/scorched #
[08:41] <mornfall> xeniux: no, and better don't ask
[08:42] <mornfall> xeniux: it's kind of offensive on this kind of network
[08:42] <mornfall> *disappears*
[08:46] <xeniux> im sorry
[08:47] <bjv> xeniux: i use the nicotine slsk client.
[08:47] <bjv> so far it is quite good at finding obscure/independent bands.
[08:47] <bjv> nice album-based userbase as well.
 is that a p2p?
[08:48] <bjv> slsk (soulseek) is a service for finding people with albums and tastes similar to yours
[08:48] <bjv> in not so many words. yes.
[09:00] <kikinovak> HI gang
[09:01] <Tm_T> hello :p
[09:01] <Tm_T> he was patient!
[09:01] <Tm_T> a whole minute?!
[09:02] <bjv> what is the correct apt package for OpenAL?
[09:09] <KiwiKibi> Suse, or Mandriva?
[09:11] <kkathman> howdy all :)
[09:11] <kkathman> wassup?
[09:12] <kkathman> Tm_T: o/
[09:12] <KiwiKibi> what's the name of the tweaked RPM installer?
[09:12] <KiwiKibi> gRPM?  RPMs?  i forgot
[09:12] <bjv> kubuntu?
[09:12] <kkathman> RPM?
[09:13] <KiwiKibi> no, Kubuntu uses apt
[09:13] <kkathman> right
[09:13] <kkathman> Red Hat uses RPM
[09:13] <KiwiKibi> yes, but another distro has a tweaked up RPM
[09:13] <KiwiKibi> softens the blow
[09:13] <Tm_T> kkathman: o/
[09:13] <kkathman> maybe so..Ubuntu is a Debian derivitive tho
[09:14] <kkathman> how are you Tm_T ?
[09:14] <Tm_T> kkathman: pretty well, in school atm
[09:14] <Tm_T> kkathman: you?
[09:14] <kkathman> ahhh ok
[09:14] <kkathman> late at night (morning) here...going to bed soon
[09:14] <Tm_T> I'm using my time well, just ircing ;)
[09:14] <Tm_T> heh
[09:15] <kkathman> Im not sure my son could IRC at his school :)
[09:15] <Tm_T> =)
[09:16] <kkathman> So how are you liking Breezy?  Any really exciting features?
[09:16] <Tm_T> basic human rights :p
[09:16] <Tm_T> yes
[09:16] <Tm_T> not that stable yet
[09:16] <Tm_T> but very usable
[09:16] <kkathman> now I assume there is a big kubuntu desktop upgrade too?
[09:17] <Tm_T> yu
[09:17] <jmg> breezy is stable
[09:17] <Tm_T> jmg: if you say so...
[09:17] <jmg> Tm_T: i havent had it crash
[09:18] <kkathman> but if I am currently on hoary with a stable KDE, will I need to do anything really too different to go to breezy?
[09:18] <kkathman> other than the typical update/upgrade
[09:18] <Tm_T> yes and change your repos
[09:19] <kkathman> well yes, have to do that first right?
[09:20] <kkathman> I didnt have any probs going from warty to hoary at all
[09:22] <kkathman> Does anyone know when the official release for breezy is?
[09:22] <chavo> Oct 14 the last I heard
[09:22] <Kaiser_Away> 13th
[09:22] <kkathman> thanks, hey chavo...hope you are well :)
[09:23] <chavo> hi, kkathman, doing great. How about you?
[09:23] <kkathman> doing ok thanks...just trying to prepare for the migration
[09:24] <chavo> less than 2 weeks away
[09:24] <kkathman> i have a good solid hoary + KDE
[09:24] <Kaiser_Away> *sp
[09:24] <kkathman> very stable for me at least
[09:24] <chavo> yeah I'm running strong here
[09:25] <chavo> no problems wahtsoever. I upgraded to breezy when the preview came out a couple of weeks ago.
[09:25] <kkathman> Im just hoping that I can get a clean upgrade/update with no incidents when I go
[09:26] <kkathman> I didnt ever install kubuntu, I opted to do the ubuntu install clean, then put KDE on top
[09:29] <KiwiKibi> aight . . . a'ma ordering Kubuntu LiveCD, and Suse.
[09:36] <god-zero> KiwiKibi: I think you're thinking of urpmi on mandriva. Not sure about suse or RH
[09:36] <KiwiKibi> LinuxCD only accepts PayPal and some other outfit . . . what bullshit.
[09:37] <KiwiKibi> god-zero: i think i got it; seems to be RPMS the name of it
[09:37] <KiwiKibi> for Suse
[09:38] <bjv> KiwiKibi: lol, i only use paypal. no credit cards.
[09:38] <bjv> when i read "credit only, no paypal" i always think.. what bullshit!
[09:40] <KiwiKibi> bjv: heh heh  =D.  I'll get Paypal eventually.   been busy  
[09:41] <nikkia> KiwiKibi: is the 'some other outfit' worldpay by any chance ?
[09:41] <KiwiKibi> turns out Suse is KDE, like Mandriva, but ships with more Open Office, includes KOffice
[09:41] <nikkia> worldpay is perhaps the more reputable of the two, since it *is* an actual bank and thus regulated fairly heavily
[09:43] <KiwiKibi> nikkia: no, it's something called CO2 or summat
[09:44] <nikkia> never heard of them :/
[09:44] <KiwiKibi> by the way, how's SATA support in Linux?
[09:45] <nikkia> ah, '2CheckOut'
[09:45] <KiwiKibi> i want to get me a pair of SATAs
[09:45] <KiwiKibi> nikkia: yes, that's it
[09:45] <nikkia> KiwiKibi: spotty
[09:45] <nikkia> KiwiKibi: if you have a supported controller, it works fine
[09:46] <KiwiKibi> nohh!!  you're kiddin me! . . . well, I have Nvidia SATA imbedded in mobo
[09:46] <nikkia> KiwiKibi: that probably needs nvidia's driver, but i'm not certain
[09:47] <nikkia> KiwiKibi: and thus, it *may* be difficult to install
[09:47] <KiwiKibi> how about hardware RAID drivers?
[09:48] <nikkia> oh no, there is a sata_nv driver in the base kernel
[09:48] <nikkia> KiwiKibi: hardware raid like?
[09:48] <KiwiKibi> smashing!
[09:48] <nikkia> bear in mind, very few of the consumer level 'RAID controllers' are actually hardware RAID :)
[09:48] <nikkia> you have to be looking at vendors like 3ware etc to get hardware RAID
[09:49] <KiwiKibi> yes.  I want to purchase a PCI RAID card
[09:49] <KiwiKibi> full hardware RAID
[09:49] <KiwiKibi> can't live without mirroring any more
[09:50] <KiwiKibi> i've been living a nightmare of lost partitions data
[09:50] <nikkia> KiwiKibi: there are drivers for most of them, i dunno how up to date or full featured tho, cos i know the openbsd people hate 3ware et al with a passion :)
[09:50] <KiwiKibi> there must be other vendors
[09:51] <nikkia> KiwiKibi: there is one vendor that openbsd recommend because they have 'full documentation available', i presume that brand is supported in linux too
[09:51] <KiwiKibi> aside from Promise chips junk
[09:51] <nikkia> i'm using promise here, but i'm well aware its not hardware raid, and it fullfills my needs :)
[09:51] <KiwiKibi> what's their name?
[09:51] <nikkia> can't remember offhand
[09:52] <KiwiKibi> alls i want is mirroring
[09:52] <KiwiKibi> is your Promise mirroring good?
[09:55] <KiwiKibi> yawnnn . . . must  . . . sleep . . .
[09:55] <nikkia> KiwiKibi: i'm not really using it as a raid controller, more like a jbod controller
[09:56] <KiwiKibi> ah, kool
[09:56] <KiwiKibi> gotta go
[09:56] <KiwiKibi> talk to ya later
[09:56] <nikkia> s/it/them/ as i have 2 promise controllers here :)
[09:56] <KiwiKibi> cool
[09:57] <KiwiKibi> g'nite y'all
[09:59] <Tonio-> hi everyone
[09:59] <Tonio-> little question concerning konqueror configuration in breezy
[10:00] <Tonio-> how is it possible to restore the "windows" button between " "configuration" and "help" ?
[10:00] <Tonio-> any help would be apreciated ;)
[10:06] <god-zero> Tonio-: I think I know what you're refering to... I'm looking into it. Hoary or breezy?
[10:12] <god-zero> Tonio-: I can't find any info
[10:12] <Tonio-> god-zero: in breezy of course ;)
[10:13] <Tonio-> there wasn't any simplfied profile on hoary ;)
[10:15] <apokryphos> kind of wondering how exactly you removed that 
[10:15] <apokryphos> I'd be inclined to suppose konquerorrc had the details down; have you trying mv-ing that?
[10:16] <apokryphos> s/trying/tried/
[10:17] <god-zero> konqueror --profile kde_devel    has it
[10:18] <Tonio-> let me check ;)
[10:18] <Tonio-> apokryphos: I didn't remove that, it has been removed with the simplified profiles designed for breezy....
[10:19] <Tonio-> If you have done an upgrade you might not have the problem, but on a fresh install........
[10:19] <god-zero> konqueror --profile midnightcommander  has it too
[10:19] <Tonio-> god-zero: I don't have it on any profile......
[10:19] <apokryphos> Tonio-: Oh, so just the simplified profile. Do all the others have it?
[10:19] <apokryphos> hm
[10:19] <Tonio-> yep
[10:20] <Tonio-> apokryphos: on my fresh install all profiles do have it.... on an upgrade apparently not
[10:20] <god-zero> about 1/2 have it
[10:20] <Tonio-> god-zero: did you perform a fresh install or an upgrade from hoary ?
[10:20] <god-zero> breezy up to day
[10:20] <god-zero> date
[10:20] <god-zero> fresh
[10:21] <Tonio-> strange............
[10:21] <apokryphos> doesn't look like kdebase/libs has changed at all, so I'm running the latest  version of them...
[10:21] <apokryphos> no problem here; curious.
[10:21] <propagandhi> kde 3.5 beta is awesome
[10:21] <apokryphos> propagandhi: you think? ;-)
[10:21] <Tonio-> propagandhi: did you try kopete ?
[10:21] <god-zero> oh ya, I'm 3.5 b1
[10:21] <propagandhi> yes i am using kopete right now
[10:21] <Tonio-> I'm waiting for msn webcam support to migrate my girlfriend to linux ;)
[10:22] <Tonio-> is it correctly implemented ?
[10:22] <apokryphos> heh
[10:22] <propagandhi> no i dont use webcam with my chat
[10:22] <apokryphos> Tonio-: I don't think kdenetwork is in; well, at least wasn't last time I checked
[10:22] <propagandhi> kopete 0.10.3
[10:23] <apokryphos> yeah, it isn't in; still only libs base utils and toys
[10:23] <god-zero> try - not - to -     what 's her nic?   damn, almost stoped myself
[10:23] <Tonio-> apokryphos: kdenetwork ???? I didn't talk about it ;)
[10:23] <apokryphos> Tonio-: Kopete is part of kdenetwork 
[10:23] <Tonio-> ah yes ^^
[10:24] <god-zero> Tonio-: kde 3.4 or 3.5?
[10:24] <Tm_T> uh
[10:24] <Tonio-> 3.4
[10:24] <Tm_T> Kopete <3
[10:24] <Tm_T> Tonio-: well, that webcam thing does work quite well in svn :)
[10:24] <Tonio-> ah?
[10:25] <Tm_T> Tonio-: just you wait KDE 3.5 :)
[10:25] <Chousuke> KDE comes with huge amounts of software :P
[10:25] <Tonio-> I'm gonna wait ;) it is not for me, but for my msn_addict girlfriend ;)
[10:25] <god-zero> my machine fresh install breezy (about 1-2 weeks ago) + kde 3.5 b1 = 1/2 missing window item on menu
[10:25] <Tm_T> Tonio-: same here ;)
[10:25] <Tonio-> Tm_T: hehe
[10:26] <Tm_T> "no not me"
[10:26] <Tonio-> god-zero: Maybe I've overwritten all profiles, I don't know.....
[10:26] <Tm_T> aaah, too shaky, food ->
[10:26] <Tonio-> I'm personaly witing for openwengo ;) That could be the absolute instant messenger
[10:27] <Tonio-> QT, opensource, multiplatform, video in progress, paying services skype has, everything ;)
[10:27] <Tonio-> Tm_T: maybe you can help me, do you know how Riddell disabled that "window" menu in konqueror ?
[10:28] <Tonio-> all my profiles don't have it and I can't make it back !*
[10:29] <Tonio-> god-zero and apokryphos have tried to help me without success :'-(
[10:34] <god-zero> hrm
[10:34] <god-zero> found it
[10:34] <god-zero> ../usr/share/apps/konqueror/konq-simplebrowser.rc is missing menu window
[10:36] <Tonio-> nice ;)
[10:36] <Tonio-> thanks ;)
[10:36] <Tonio-> i'm gonna look at that
[10:39] <god-zero> can't find a good chunk of code to shoehorn in
[10:41] <Tonio-> and if you just take the code from a profile that has the menu, simply that ?
[10:41] <god-zero> that's what I'm looking for
[10:41] <god-zero> gimme 5
[10:45] <propagandhi> what ports does IRC use to transfer files
[10:46] <_bios> hi
[10:47] <_bios> dfdfd
[10:48] <hoary> any body know how to make floppy recovery from kubuntu..??
[10:48] <god-zero> Tonio-: I can't fine a cod snip for it, I MVed it, should restartx to see if it worked
[10:48] <hoary> i try grub-install /dev/fd0 it's doesn't work...
[10:48] <god-zero> brb
[10:49] <hoary> the error message is /dev/fd0 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[10:55] <god-zero> Tonio-: I can't get it to stick
[10:55] <god-zero> arg
[10:57] <Tonio-> god-zero: I'll search by myselft again, don't spend you day on that, and anyway thanks for the time speding on this ;)
[10:57] <Tonio-> I appreciate !!!
[10:58] <hoary> i try root@jarkom18:/home/jarkom18 # grub-install --root-directory=/media/floppy '(fd0)'
[10:58] <hoary> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/floppy/boot': Read-only file system
[11:01] <god-zero> It's been bugging me too a bit
[11:05] <god-zero> if i edit the icon on the kicker to launch command "konqueror --profile john" it works right
[11:09] <god-zero> kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing causes the odd behavior - mainly the kfmclient part
[11:24] <propagandhi> why wait?
[11:24] <cyne> because it's unstable?
[11:24] <propagandhi> pfft
[11:24] <cyne> someone said it was unstable
[11:24] <propagandhi> who was the someone
[11:25] <cyne> that Kaiser guy
[11:25] <propagandhi> in fact its labelled unstable because its in testing, some things might not work
[11:25] <cyne> he said 10 more days till official release
[11:25] <propagandhi> but i'm using it right now without any concerns
[11:25] <propagandhi> at all
[11:25] <cyne> propagandhi: ok, i wonder what they would be changing
[11:25] <cyne> propagandhi: which release do you have?
[11:26] <skaman> hi guys anyone using amule?
[11:26] <propagandhi> basically i'm up to the latest updates in the breezy repository, i installed from colony 5, but have updated everyday since
[11:27] <cyne> propagandhi: ah! how do you update?
[11:27] <propagandhi> cyne: if you're not too familiar with linux, just wait for the release, i shouldnt have been so jumpy in telling you "why wait" but i love breezy
[11:27] <cyne> propagandhi: i'm fairly familiar with it
[11:28] <cyne> but just wanted to know how you get the latest updates from command line
[11:28] <propagandhi> well what are you waiting for in that case. They only know of bugs if it gets used and tested
[11:28] <cyne> sure
[11:28] <propagandhi> cyne: update /etc/apt/sources.list changing hoary to breezy
[11:28] <propagandhi> then apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:28] <propagandhi> oops
[11:29] <Kaiser_Away> apt-get update
[11:29] <propagandhi> apt-get update
[11:29] <Kaiser_Away> lol
[11:29] <propagandhi> then apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:29] <cyne> oh, nice
[11:29] <cyne> so that will just upgrade linux for me to breezy?
[11:30] <cyne> very nice
[11:30] <propagandhi> yes
[11:30] <Kaiser_Away> :D sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:31] <cyne> so do i change every occurance of hoary to breezy?
[11:32] <Kaiser_Away>  exept teh cd line
[11:32] <Kaiser_Away> *teh
[11:32] <cyne> ok
[11:32] <Kaiser_Away> *the
[11:36] <skaman> hi guys
[11:37] <skaman> anyone knows how to let amulewebserver work?
[11:37] <Kaiser_Away> hi
[11:37] <skaman> i got the options under prefs
[11:37] <skaman> bbut amule tells me to install the webserver package
[11:37] <skaman> and i can't find it
[11:38] <Kaiser_Away> cant help, cosi dont use it
[11:38] <skaman> :(
[11:58] <slow-motion> hallo
[12:06] <skaman> theres a way to give apt-get any compile options?
[01:01] <Blissex> skaman: uh????
[01:01] <Blissex> skaman: consider having a look at 'apt-build' perhaps.
[01:28] <cyne> Kubuntu is going haywire
[01:28] <cyne> on me
[01:28] <cyne> it's because i did apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> cyne: in what way?
[01:32] <cyne> Kamping_Kaiser: applications are refusing to operate
[01:33] <cyne> even the KSysGuard
[01:33] <cyne> Konsole works fine
[01:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> you have rebooted and its gone awol?
[01:35] <cyne> no i haven't rebooted yet
[01:35] <cyne> it's still doing the upgrade for another 5 hours
[01:36] <cyne> i figured it's going crazy because all these packages are being overwritten
[01:36] <god-zero> 5 hours?
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, hten its not the upgrade
[01:36] <cyne> yes it's downloading god-zero 
[01:37] <god-zero> dialup dist-upgrade?
[01:37] <cyne> 256kbps
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> crap you must have a lot of packages
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> 256 gets ~ 100M/ hour
[01:38] <cyne> :(
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> :O
[01:38] <cyne> yes it says it needs to get an additional 600mb of disk space
[01:38] <cyne> when it started
[01:39] <cyne> i don't think i installed *that* much
[01:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> a default warty -> breezy updates about that large iirc. you on hoary now or warty?
[01:39] <cyne> hoary
[01:40] <cyne> i only installed it a few days ago too
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. that sounds like a large update
[01:43] <god-zero> I'm just typing this to eat up some more of cyne's bandwith  ;)
[01:44] <rwlbuis|brb> I need to have a Helvetica font on my system, but fc-list | grep Helv shows there isnt one...
[01:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol god-zero
[01:44] <rwlbuis> how does kubuntu solve that, an alias to Arial?
[01:45] <Tonio-> little question...
[01:45] <Tonio-> what are those gij packages that are causing an issue to use java in konqueror ?
[01:45] <Tonio-> I removed them and that now works fine but is it nice to remove'em ?
[01:48] <cyne> :P
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> Tonio-: not sure. could be internationalisation stuff
[01:50] <god-zero> Tonio-: The gij is gnu java.. a free as in speech java, sun java isn't as nice license-wise, but is more mature
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah, the gnu java subset?
[01:50] <Tonio-> would you suggest to build a deb package using make-jpkg, and remove gij ? I did it and that seems to work
[01:50] <god-zero> byte code
[01:52] <god-zero> removing java will stop java crashes by not running the java app to start with.
[01:52] <god-zero> !tell Tonio- about sunjava
[01:53] <god-zero> rwlbuis: ps: noone's ignoring you, I (we?) have no idea
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> we is correct :)
[01:54] <Tonio-> god-zero: thanks for the info, it is eactly what I did to install it
[01:54] <Tonio-> the problem is that by default it works with firefox but craches in konqueror....
[01:54] <Tonio-> due to that gij package
[01:55] <Tonio-> once removed it worked like a charm
[01:55] <god-zero> I fixed all my windows crashes that way.....
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
[01:56] <Tonio-> what a stupid thing this java licence
[01:56] <Tonio-> what would it cost to sun allowing packages distribution ?
[01:57] <Tonio-> nothing...
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep. and if they let it be distributed, it would get  a *lot* more use
[01:57] <Tonio-> absolutly...............; it is really stupid
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep :|
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> and ipods dont do ogg, so i would have to install ipod linux on it (not necesarily a bad thing ) :)
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> rather ^
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> the only one was neuros, and they dont do players anymore :( just mp4 set top boxes
[02:04] <god-zero> wikipedia /ogg vorbis list a handfull of manufaturers
[02:04] <_mrmarcel> hallo
[02:05] <god-zero> hi
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi _mrmarcel
[02:09] <god-zero> I never did understand the buzz around ipods, the were just another overpriced /under performing player that (at one time) only worked with apples. Guess some people just like to spend money to be cool..
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh. they looked different is one thing
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> my problems not so much i hate ipods, as i hate tehy trendy freaks who use them (not all ipoders are freaks, btw), and the fact that every other mp3 player instantly tried to be an ipod ripoff
[02:10] <mrmarcel> test
[02:11] <god-zero> I wanted the nomad - that brick one with the harddrive and worked as a external usb drive circa 01(?)
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> creative job?
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, they were not bad. i *realy* wanted a neuros, but tehy stopped selling them about a month before i could afford tehm
[02:12] <god-zero> might have been, just a little bugger than a pack of cigarettes, and had the ribber bumpers on the corners
[02:12] <mrmarcel> wenn ich mich mit "Konversation" automatisch "identifizieren" lassen mchte (also diese /msg nickserv ...), was muss ich da bei "service" eingeben ?
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have to work on my [th]  setups, its getting silly
[02:13] <mrmarcel> ups, sory
[02:13] <god-zero> ;)
[02:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> -de :)
[02:14] <cyne> mrmarcel: set it up under "commands" in your server
[02:14] <god-zero> Kamping_Kaiser: [th]  setups?
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> i keep doing stuff like 'teh' and 'tehm'
[02:15] <mrmarcel> Thx cyne =DD
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> generaly droping the h :|
[02:16] <god-zero> I don't mistype, I'm l33t
[02:16] <Tm_T> god-zero: "ok"
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:17] <god-zero> :P
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:17] <Tm_T> :/
[02:20] <cyne> i don't even know German, but i knew what he was talking about
[02:20] <god-zero> I remember being off the internet from '90(a bit here and there) till about '98(?), and trying to figure out wtf 1337 haxorz was all about
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. yeh, i knew the question, but not the anser :D
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. i got on the internet about 10 montsh ago for the first serious time, about 20 months ago for the first time
[02:25] <Tm_T> ...
[02:25] <Tm_T> kids :/
[02:25] <Tm_T> ] ;=
[02:25] <god-zero> is the adept rc out yet?
[02:25] <Tm_T> dreamy daydream ->
[02:27] <jjesse> god-zero: not a total rc
[02:27] <jjesse> god-zero:  beta is currently out
[02:28] <god-zero> sounded like mornfall had a rc for us to play with
[02:28] <mornfall> i prepared the source tarballs last week
[02:29] <mornfall> where they are now, i know not
[02:29] <mornfall> upload pending,  i guess
[02:38] <jjesse> mornfall: each time i update adept it looks better and better good job
[02:39] <mornfall> jjesse: thanks
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> im almost tempted to see what all the fus is about by now
[02:41] <jjesse> grin K\
[02:41] <jjesse> grin Kamping_Kaiser  you should it makes then easier
[02:41] <jjesse> and looks better then old kynaptic
[02:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool. cant wait to see a kubuntu with decent package management *hugs synaptic atm :O*
[02:44] <god-zero> adept is totaly different than synaptic, ui wise. It'll be interesting to see how it evolves. Anything's better than kynaptic - it's too simplified.
[02:46] <nalioth> Kamping_Kaiser: adept can be used on the gnome side of the hizzy, too
[02:46] <mornfall> uh-huh?
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:47] <mornfall> adept is the best thing since sliced synaptic, 4 out of 5 trained goats say
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> :S 
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> /me bleats
[02:51] <god-zero> it is growing on me a bit. Funtionally it's hard to beat synaptic due to it's maturity. PS: with apt's database, is it possable to roll back arbitrarily to a time?
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[02:59] <knubbe> anyone having troubles with Eclipse IDE since tonight's updates? (breezy)
[03:09] <jjesse> hmm anyone have issues w/ adept hanging at "Waiting for headers"
[03:10] <jjesse> did a full upgrade and it's sitting at 99% waiting for headers
[03:10] <cyne> adept? what's that
[03:10] <cyne> how do you do an upgrade?
[03:10] <jjesse> !tell cyne adept
[03:10] <cyne> why do you need to do an upgrade?
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell Kamping_Kaiser about adept
[03:14] <mornfall> wasn't that !tell me about
[03:14] <mornfall> !tell me about adept
[03:14] <inc|freaky> wer is hier bot?
[03:15] <inc|freaky> ah ubotu :D
[03:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[03:15] <mornfall> must have missed that
[03:15] <DocTomoe> No, I am not a bot. I know how to put information on Function Keys, however
[03:15] <mornfall> ye gods
[03:15] <inc|freaky> DocTomoe: The bug number is invalid
[03:15] <mornfall> inc|freaky: it's valid
[03:16] <mornfall> inc|freaky: the dot is not part of url tho
[03:16] <inc|freaky> ah its the dot
[03:16] <DocTomoe> hm, will fix this point thing ...
[03:16] <mornfall> it's a dot not a point
[03:17] <cyne> DocTomoe: adept isn't in my Kubuntu menu, so i don't use it... but how do i update my system
[03:17] <DocTomoe> got it (and the dot as well) ;)
[03:17] <mornfall> the message is pointless though
[03:17] <mornfall> and it's not about system security
[03:17] <DocTomoe> cyne ... without having read anything about your problem so far: how about sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[03:17] <mornfall> more about user stupidity
[03:18] <Vectrox> In Breezy Amarok is pretty crasy
[03:18] <Vectrox> crashy
[03:18] <cyne> DocTomoe: i'm doing that right now
[03:18] <cyne> DocTomoe: will that upgrade to the latest all the time?
[03:18] <inc|freaky> cyne: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:18] <mornfall> inc|freaky: what's the point of the non-dist-upgrade?
[03:18] <DocTomoe> mornfall ... system security is also about preventing users from doing obviously stupid things.
[03:19] <inc|freaky> mornfall: its doing slightly different things read the manpage about it ;D
[03:19] <Vectrox> what is the use of doing apt-get upgrade and then apt-get dist-upgrade ??
[03:19] <inc|freaky> mornfall: i always do it that way so i see what is dist-upgraded and what not
[03:19] <mornfall> inc|freaky: what's doing slightly different thing? upgrade && dist-upgrade vs dist-upgrade?
[03:20] <Vectrox> upgrade only upgrades the programs already installed on you system
[03:20] <Vectrox> dist-upgrade installs extra packages that are new and in the base dist
[03:20] <god-zero> cyne's on a 256k connect doing a dist-upgrade.
[03:20] <mornfall> poor soul
[03:21] <nikkia> god-zero: i've done it on 56k before :P
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, Vectrox, so upgrades obseleced by dist-upgrade i would ahve thought :/
[03:21] <nikkia> it was 56k with 2hr disconnects, at that
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[03:21] <DocTomoe> thats too bad ... how about a cronjob that automagically updates every day or so to keep the packages-to-download-queue small?
[03:21] <inc|freaky> i think dist-upgrade als installs packages after an upgrade which dont belong to the current dist or which packages which werent updated to the new dist in the repositorys allready but i dont know for sure
[03:21] <god-zero> cyne: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" or (s/k)naptic: first icon (update), second icon (upgrade)
[03:22] <inc|freaky> mornfall: lol, u asked ;p
[03:22] <mornfall> inc|freaky: no, i didn't
[03:22] <Vectrox> if you do 'man apt-get' in console you will have explanations :P
[03:22] <nikkia> mornfall: yeah, you noob! :P
[03:22] <mornfall> ye gods
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> inc|freaky: upgrade updates packeges on the system, dist-upgrade pulls in deps as well
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. mornfall, not your day ;)
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> LMA
[03:22] <Vectrox> Damn...
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> O
[03:22] <Vectrox> OOo2 is lightning fast now
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> bugger :(
[03:23] <mornfall> lightning fast?
[03:23] <Vectrox> yeah pretty much
[03:23] <Vectrox> faster than it was a few days ago..
[03:23] <Vectrox> It starts up within 5 seconds..
[03:23] <mornfall> maybe it got stuck in ram ;P
[03:23] <Vectrox> Nooo
[03:23] <Vectrox> even after a reboot and shutdown :P
[03:23] <inc|freaky> any1 wanna look at my nice kde screenshots? :D
[03:23] <mornfall> check your init.d, maybe they have an rc script now :D
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:24] <god-zero> is there a girl in the background?
[03:24] <inc|freaky> im proud of my desktop ;D
[03:24] <mornfall> inc|freaky: who isn't
[03:24] <Vectrox> mm
[03:24] <nikkia> mornfall:  what... cp -a /opt/OOo /dev/shm && export PATH=/dev/shm/program:$PATH ?  :)
[03:25] <nikkia> whatever happened to cachefs anyway ?
[03:26] <Vectrox> I saw screenshots of KDE 3.5 Beta 1 with transparant window decorations. But when I do that, than the system becomes very slow and everything is transparant.. Is it the fault of the fglrx drivers ??
[03:26] <nikkia> Vectrox: probably
[03:27] <Vectrox> Man i knew that an ATi card would be a bad idea in the first place :P
[03:27] <DocTomoe> the use of transparent window decorations has not yet occured to me - what is the advantage next to "looking l33t"?
[03:27] <nikkia> DocTomoe: apart from that? nothing at all :P
[03:27] <Vectrox> Dunno.. Looks leet 
[03:27] <Vectrox> make windows xp friends jealous ?
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> Playing 11 - Disconnect.mp3 with mplayer.
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> Yay for Pennywise
[03:28] <nikkia> DocTomoe: i have a minimal amount of eye candy, cos, well, i use my PC for work, not going 'ooooh' at all the day long :P
[03:28] <Vectrox> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29557
[03:28] <god-zero> DocTomoe: It does help the eyes stay on the active app. hard to explain, but not worth it if it slows down ui past a point
[03:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:28] <Vectrox> If i dont want to ooh all day than i would have chosen for a other DE like IceWM :P
[03:30] <Vectrox> But anyways I really like KDE 3.5 and I am waiting for the first KDE4 screenshots..
[03:30] <god-zero> I always got nvidia, but then I thought, "let's give ati a shot this time". Worst mistake ever.
[03:30] <Vectrox> yeah..
[03:30] <Vectrox> Never ever get a ATi card when your planning to use Linux it sucks.
[03:30] <skaman> ati& linux are not good friends
[03:31] <nikkia> god-zero: i always bought nvidia too, until my fan died on my GF4ti while i was unemployed & staying at my parents, and all the tight wads would buy me was a 9200 :P
[03:31] <skaman> even if fglrx works good
[03:31] <DocTomoe> hm, what is the "window behaviour configuration"? Cant find it. Is anyone running i18n-de and knows how that one got translated?
[03:31] <Vectrox> Everytime when I try the original drivers from ati.com the installation fails.. I dont know why I have everything installed that is needed..
[03:32] <nikkia> god-zero: it was a painful few months of ati usage, sadly, i'd just about got fglrx configured right when i finally replaced it with a 6600GT :P
[03:32] <Vectrox> lol
[03:32] <nikkia> wouldn't wish ATI on my worst enemy :)
[03:34] <god-zero> I went cheap: This machine was supposed to hold me over a few months, then it was going to my kids. That plan didn't work out. It was between a nvidia 5200 and a ati9200se (same price). oops
[03:49] <cyne> hello, how do i get the full process table in bash?
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> ps aux? or another one?
[03:50] <cyne> that's it thanks :)
[03:50] <hon> how can I downgrade my kernel version to 2.6.11?
[03:57] <Abdul_Mueid> hello everyone
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[04:06] <Chase> ive just installed kubuntu 5.10 preview and im having a problem. I need to stop the visor module from loading its self into the kernel automatically. Does anyone know who i can do this? ive been looking in the man file for modprobe.conf and googleing all over the place. But i am stilll at a lose as to how to do this?
[04:06] <dooglio> you want to blacklist it in hotplug, i imagine
[04:07] <Chase> ye that sounds right, do you know how i do it
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser>  /etc/hotplug/blacklist (iirc)
[04:07] <dooglio> check out /usr/share/doc/hotplug/README.gz
[04:08] <dooglio> that too
[04:08] <Chase> thats prefect thank you!!
[04:09] <dooglio> Chase: sure, don't mention it
[04:47] <Xmarcel> is there a possibility to save the windowposition for all windows?
[04:49] <Xmarcel> ok, i get it :-)
[04:54] <BiSK-8> hello
[04:54] <BiSK-8> i have a problem with amarok
[04:54] <BiSK-8> it wont play any files
[04:55] <BiSK-8> can any1 help me?
[05:20] <konsolebox> excuse me.. how will i create extended chars in linux? the alt-# in windoze
[05:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> i belive theres an on screen keyboard of sorts, but dont know where
[05:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> like character map in doze
[05:21] <konsolebox> how bout a site.. have a clue?
[05:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> nope. i dont use kde :\
[05:22] <konsolebox> ok
[05:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> dont let others know, ill be slaughered *wild look*
[05:23] <konsolebox> lol.. do uknow a package that contains the file fglrx_drv.o?
[05:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> um. give me a tic
[05:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> cant seem to find it :/
[05:26] <konsolebox> ok
[05:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry :(
[05:36] <sproingie> linux-restricted-modules-your_arch_here
[05:36] <sproingie> from what i can tell it doesn't contain the .o, that actually gets mysteriously built at boot time
[05:36] <sproingie> cached away somewhere i presume
[05:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, :\ sneaky 
[05:37] <sproingie> i hope that doesnt mean it requires a compiler just to make the driver work
[05:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh. i would hope they thing of that though
[05:38] <sproingie> but i dont know.  havent really figured out how volatile modules work
[05:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> nah, i heard about them, but i havent been bothered. "more important" things to do
[05:55] <mhz> hi there
[05:55] <mhz> I have a "thin-laptop" which, AFAIK, can only get linux installed either via PXE or installing 4 files into C:\. By doing the latter, I get to install Ubuntu.
[05:55] <mhz> BUT I DO want to install Kubuntu
[05:56] <mhz> is it possible as well???
[05:56] <Riddell> mhz: kubuntu doesn't currently have netboot
[05:56] <Riddell> mhz: best way is to install ubuntu and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:57] <mhz> how about the latter method? 
[06:00] <mhz> Riddell: but if installing the "4 files" from ubuntu repositories has worked fine, any chance to get those 4 files from kubuntu reps.?
[06:01] <nikkia> mhz, they're the same repositories :)
[06:01] <mhz> oh
[06:02] <nikkia> i'm guessing the files involved are the kernel image, and loadlin or something
[06:02] <nikkia> anyway, the files will be identical most likely, kubuntu and ubuntu should only differ on which -desktop package they install :)
[06:04] <hussam> In two days (on Wednesday) , I'm switching from normal lan to pppoe. It's still only a normal cable connected from the Hub to my network card but it will become a pppoe connection. How would I configure it on Kubuntu?
[06:05] <hussam> anybody's familiar with pppoe network connection? will it work on Kubuntu?
[06:07] <Tonio-> hussam: while your modem is detected, you shouldn't have any problem to configure your conection with "pppoeconf"
[06:09] <hussam> Tonio-: it's not a modem , it's a cable modem connected to a hub that is conencted to my PCI network card.
[06:09] <hussam> Tonio-: that shouldn't make a differnce, right?
[06:10] <mhz> nikkia: I agree but the only time I did this "hd-install" was using this URL and it automatically started downloading Ubuntu, not even "server" options were given.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948 
[06:11] <hussam> hussam: also, can it be configured to remember the username and password and login to the pppoe connection at startup?
[06:11] <nikkia> hussam: stop talking to yourself! :)
[06:12] <hussam> nikkia: oops, sorry.
[06:13] <nalioth> nikkia: :) have a good weekend?
[06:13] <nikkia> nalioth: the weekend was ok, but today sucks
[06:13] <nikkia> i appear to have caught the flu that is going around, as i have an incredibly painful throat, a bit of a temperature, etc
[06:13] <nikkia> and the problem with 'working from home' is you can't really go home sick :/
[06:14] <nalioth> mondays always do
[06:14] <nikkia> (you can however, just sit and do nothing all day :)
[06:15] <Tonio-> hussam: pppoe directly conected tu a hub ?
[06:16] <Tonio-> do you want to share your conection ?, cause in this case you may need a routeur, a hub isn't enough.....
[06:17] <hussam> Tonio-: the hub so I connect my neigbour to this connection
[06:17] <Tonio-> hussam: in this case it is not a pppoe conection......
[06:17] <Tonio-> pppoe means direct conection to the web
[06:18] <Tonio-> and he has to share it
[06:18] <hussam> Tonio-: it is. I've had this connection back when I was on SuSE two years ago. and Windows XP also identifies it as PPPOE
[06:18] <Tonio-> hu ??????????
[06:19] <Tonio-> i don't understand how that can work.....
[06:20] <skaman> anyone uses kompos'?
[06:20] <Tonio-> skaman: I did...
[06:20] <hussam> Tonio-: all I know is a cable coming into my house that I can either connect directly to my network card.
[06:20] <skaman> Tonio sei italiano?
[06:20] <skaman> anyway...Tonio i installed from the source
[06:20] <Tonio-> skaman: nope, french ;) My father is italian but I don't speak
[06:21] <skaman> but now how can I use it?
[06:21] <Tonio-> hussam: if it is a shared connection all you may do is configure your tci/ip to dhcp and that's it...
[06:21] <Tonio-> skaman: did you launch it ?
[06:21] <Tonio-> do you have it in the systray ?
[06:22] <skaman> i don't know ho to launchi it
[06:22] <skaman> kompose don't works
[06:22] <Tonio-> simply type "kompose" in the shell to start
[06:22] <Tonio-> you might get an icon in the systray
[06:23] <hussam> Tonio-: It's not a shared connection. it's more than one connection on te same network.
[06:23] <mhz> Does anyone here has a Fujitsu LifeBook B-21xx
[06:23] <Tonio-> then right click on it and define which event activates it
[06:23] <Tonio-> hussam: ahhhhhhhhh okay ;)
[06:23] <Tonio-> then pppoeconf is your friend
[06:24] <hussam> Tonio-: anyway, if it worked on SuSE 9.0 ( using YaST) , then it should work on Kubuntu ( using pppoeconf), right?
[06:25] <Tonio-> yep
[06:25] <skaman> skaman@Ska-Box:~$ kompose
[06:25] <Tonio-> sorry but it wasn't clear for me, I understood that your neighboor's connection was shared...
[06:25] <skaman> bash: kompose: command not found
[06:25] <skaman> Tonio:
[06:25] <Tonio-> skaman: supposedly badly configure ;)
[06:25] <Tonio-> compiled excuse me
[06:26] <Tonio-> do you use hoary or breezy ?
[06:26] <Tonio-> I have done a package for hoary
[06:26] <skaman> breezy
[06:26] <Tonio-> ah.......
[06:26] <Tonio-> I have done a source package for breezy but I have to compile it....
[06:26] <Tonio-> let me check if I have it right now
[06:26] <Tonio-> I may send it to you
[06:27] <skaman> i compiled it without errors and mak >>make install
[06:27] <skaman> all ok
[06:27] <Tonio-> strange..........
[06:27] <Tonio-> komp + tab, nothing ?
[06:27] <skaman> kompare  kompmgr
[06:28] <nikkia> skaman: is /usr/local/bin in your path ?
[06:28] <Tonio-> as far as I can see, kompose is already in breezy ;)
[06:28] <nikkia> if you compiled it yourself, thats the most likely location for the binary
[06:28] <skaman> :|
[06:28] <skaman> nikkia what do yoi mean=?
[06:28] <skaman> Tonio where?
[06:28] <nikkia> skaman: type /usr/local/bin/kompose  and see if it works
[06:29] <Tonio-> in universe
[06:29] <skaman> bash: /usr/local/bin/kompose: No such file or directory
[06:29] <Tonio-> activate universe then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kompose"
[06:29] <nikkia> then something didn't work when you compiled it :)
[06:29] <skaman> but i got no errors
[06:30] <skaman> deb ftp://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[06:30] <skaman> deb-src ftp://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[06:30] <skaman> Tonio these 2?
[06:30] <Tonio-> no
[06:31] <Tonio-> deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe
[06:31] <Tonio-> simply add this and it'll work
[06:31] <skaman> thnx!
[06:31] <Tonio-> remove fr. of course ;)
[06:32] <kresten> Hi there! Does anybody know how to make just one of my panels transparent? I can make them all transparent at once, only not just one...
[06:32] <aseigo> kresten: it's a global setting, not a per-panel setting
[06:32] <skaman> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe
[06:32] <skaman> this way?
[06:32] <kresten> So its not possible?
[06:34] <Tonio-> yep
[06:34] <skaman> bad repositories..
[06:35] <skaman> that's why :D
[06:35] <skaman> kompose
[06:35] <kresten> asegio: So it can't be done?
[06:37] <skaman> Tonio works fine thnx!
[06:38] <Tonio-> ;)
[06:38] <skaman> where can I find a good sources.list?
[06:39] <BlankB> !repositories
[06:39] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[06:40] <cddesjar> i am trying to install a package codweavers
[06:40] <cddesjar> and it won't let me install it via sudo
[06:40] <cddesjar> and i can't do su
[06:40] <BlankB> sudo -s
[06:40] <BlankB> will get you a root shell.
[06:40] <skaman> thnx ubotu
[06:40] <gshockx> hello po
[06:41] <ubundu_adiktus> hi po
[06:41] <ubundu_adiktus> ok na po
[06:41] <ubundu_adiktus> where can i download the ym that works in ubundu??
[06:43] <BlankB> !root shell
[06:43] <ubotu> [root shell]  at sudo -s
[06:43] <BlankB> wow ubotu is like a csm101
[06:44] <ubundu_adiktus> pls help me where can i download yahoo messenger that works in kubundu
[06:45] <BlankB> Gaim and Kopete speak the yahoo messenger protocol.
[06:53] <StR> Hi all!
[06:59] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:59] <skaman> ubotu can u pls give me again links to breezy repositories pls ?
[06:59] <ubotu> skaman: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:59] <skaman> O_o"
[07:00] <skaman> ?
[07:00] <Tm_T> =)
[07:00] <Tm_T> pls == playlist?
[07:00] <Tm_T> !repositories
[07:00] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[07:01] <skaman> thnx
[07:01] <skaman> had a problem with the browser and i've lost it
[07:02] <ubundu_adiktus> how can i link my kopete to my yahoo messenger so my account there will work here?
[07:24] <StR> when will  breezy be launched?
[07:27] <Riddell> 10 days
[07:27] <StR> Riddell: really?
[07:28] <Riddell> yes
[07:29] <StR> Riddell: ahh nice.....
[07:29] <StR> with kde 3.4.?... not with 3.5....
[07:29] <Riddell> yes
[07:30] <StR> i still can't see the usplash...
[07:31] <jjesse> StR: did you specifically install kubuntu-desktop?
[07:31] <jjesse> after the upgrade?
[07:31] <StR> jjesse: yes.. it says it is installed up to the newest version
[07:32] <skaman> ehy guys wich app installs kde themes *.kth???
[07:32] <skaman> i'm tring to install one..but the app doesn't opens
[07:35] <philipacamaniac> alt click is my new best friend
[07:35] <Riddell> it's handy
[07:35] <jjesse> philipacamaniac: did you ever test the system settings issue at lower then 1025x768?
[07:36] <philipacamaniac> yes, I started at 800x600
[07:36] <jjesse> able to view everything?
[07:36] <StR> anyone here has seen the usplash?
[07:36] <skaman> ehy guys wich app installs kde themes *.kth???
[07:36] <philipacamaniac> no, go check the report at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16651
[07:36] <mhz> ANY similar URL for Kubuntu?? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/
[07:37] <mhz> I want ot install from hd
[07:39] <philipacamaniac> Riddell: SpeedCrunch is cool and fun, but putting kcalc universe? :(  On the wife/mom/grandma meter, kcalc scores a 10 and SpeedCrunch scores a -2.
[07:40] <Riddell> philipacamaniac: kcalc is in supported
[07:40] <philipacamaniac> Oh, maybe I missed that
[07:40] <philipacamaniac> well, ok then
[07:40] <philipacamaniac> nevermind
[07:40] <Riddell> I find kcalc near unusable though
[07:41] <Riddell> question is how to make speedcrunch etc more usable
[07:41] <philipacamaniac> add a mouse mode
[07:41] <philipacamaniac> optional, of course
[07:44] <miguser> hi
[07:56] <gstrock> can any one tell me how to get to root on the Kubuntu live cd, 5.10, so I can set up the network?
[07:56] <miguser> sudo su
[07:57] <miguser> or sudo kcontrol
[07:59] <StR> gstrock: sudo ifconfig eth0 bla.bla.bla...
[07:59] <gstrock> ok, thank you.  In an attempt to spread the Ubuntu word I gave the livecd to a co-worker and it didn't set up a network connection  Strange since the drive is loaded (via_rhine) . Her laptop is an Averatec
[07:59] <mhz> please tell me if it's ok or wrong..
[07:59] <mhz> usually, for a HD ubuntu install..
[07:59] <mhz> (hd0,0)/ubuntu/install/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 devfs=mount,dall ramdisk_size=17000
[08:00] <mhz> in c:\menu.lst
[08:00] <mhz> then, What should I write in order to tell grub to boot from PCMCIA???
[08:05] <mhz> hd0,0 will get the HD
[08:05] <mhz> but HOW can i specify to get a PCMCIA CD?
[08:16] <_shawn> hi
[08:16] <_shawn> when I try running Java apps java uses like 100% cpu.
[08:17] <StR> _shawn: don't use java ;)  java is slow
[08:17] <_shawn> I'm running kubuntu upgraded to breezy. wondering if this is like a known issue
[08:17] <_shawn> bah I don't man it's slow I man it's not working correctly
[08:18] <_shawn> *mean
[08:18] <philipacamaniac> breezy has a free (libre) version of java, you might try getting the official Sun version
[08:18] <_shawn> I have the official sun version
[08:18] <philipacamaniac> then you might try using the free version :) j/k sorry
[08:19] <Lars_G> AH the apokryphos sir is here.
[08:19] <StR> philipacamaniac: LOL!
[08:19] <_shawn> I've tried making my own .deb package and just installing the .bin itself... makes no difference
[08:19] <Lars_G> Generic question to the room, is there any easier way to add unfolding launching bars in kicker than creating menues for each and adding a whole menu to the kicker?
[08:19] <_shawn> I've tried the free one too
[08:19] <Lars_G> What you speaking about?
[08:19] <_shawn> me?
[08:20] <philipacamaniac> _shawn: sorry i can't help more, but I normally disable java even in OOo2. I was planning on testing it with a certain application at work, but all-in-all i loathe java and the problems it brings to the table.
[08:21] <_shawn> ya well I like limewire
[08:21] <philipacamaniac> haven't they been shutdown yet?
[08:21] <_shawn> no
[08:21] <philipacamaniac> hmm
[08:21] <philipacamaniac> maybe I'll go try it myself
[08:22] <_shawn> thanks
[08:22] <_shawn> let me know how it goes
[08:22] <Lars_G> _shawn: You're talking about java?
[08:23] <_shawn> yes
[08:23] <Lars_G> _shawn: You used the make-jpkg method?
[08:23] <_shawn> yep
[08:23] <Lars_G> With what version of Java?
[08:23] <_shawn> 1.5-5
[08:23] <Lars_G> Sun's? jre or jdk?
[08:23] <_shawn> jre
[08:24] <hilde> I got two computers. Comp1 is on the internet, comp2 uses comp1 to get on the internet. Comp2 dosn't have a sound card. Is it possible to use comp1 to play Comp2 sounds?
[08:25] <Lars_G> Interesting I used it without trouble with Sun's 1.5-5 JDK.
[08:25] <jjesse> hilde: that would be cool if you find out how to work that
[08:25] <_shawn> on breezy?
[08:26] <Lars_G> _shawn: What failure do you have? if you type "java -version" on the command line, what do you get?
[08:26] <Lars_G> _shawn: Eh, nope, on Hoary
[08:26] <hilde> on breezy
[08:26] <Lars_G> _shawn: Does the .deb installs?
[08:26] <_shawn> not a failure just like 100% cpu
[08:26] <hilde> other question... How do I install flash on konquerer...
[08:26] <Lars_G> _shawn: No matter what you load or run?
[08:26] <_shawn> ya it worked on azureus
[08:26] <_shawn> ya
[08:26] <hilde> I got flash downloaded from macromedia
[08:26] <_shawn> *horay
[08:27] <Lars_G> Sorry _shawn, sounds too strange to me.
[08:27] <_shawn> oops azureus was in clipboard
[08:27] <_shawn> ya
[08:27] <Lars_G> Sounds like, a problem with the Kernel.
[08:27] <Lars_G> hmmm
[08:28] <Lars_G> Two questions.
[08:28] <_shawn> k
[08:29] <Lars_G> 1) I reiterate my first question.
[08:29] <_shawn> what is that?
[08:29] <Lars_G> 2) Is there any equivalent in KDE that would let me do something a-la "tail -f" ??
[08:29] <Lars_G> _shawn: For the room, not for you, sorry :)
[08:29] <_shawn> oh okay
[08:29] <Juerd> Lars_G: konsole, with "tail -f" :)
[08:30] <Lars_G> _shawn: For you, I'd go into ##java and say something on the lines of "On my new kernel and system, Sun's VM is hogging %100 cpu" and ask for help with it.
[08:30] <Lars_G> Juerd: Neh could be ;), anything I could configure to launch by right click on konqueror?? :)
[08:30] <Lars_G> Juerd: Well I could create a konsole profile for that, actually.... hmmmm
[08:30] <Juerd> Lars_G: You can create some kind of link or script that calls konsole -e tail -f ...
[08:31] <Juerd> Lars_G: xterm is easier to configure using command line arguments
[08:31] <_shawn> I need to be identified to join #Java how do I do so?
[08:31] <Juerd> (most useful: -fg foregroundcolor -bg backgroundcolor -fa "Font Name" -fs 12 -geometry 80x25
[08:32] <Lars_G> Juerd: I'll set up a special session for it, and use it, but yes, you're right
[08:32] <Juerd> )
[08:32] <Juerd> )
[08:32] <Juerd> s/\)//
[08:32] <Lars_G> ??
[08:32] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[08:32] <Lars_G> do you feel well?
[08:33] <Juerd> Ignore those parts that you don't understand
[08:33] <Lars_G> kinfo: He typoed, and used a regexp to undo his typo
[08:33] <Juerd> Indeed
[08:35] <_shawn> I need to be identified to join #Java how do I do so?, no help? I don't use IRC very often
[08:40] <Lars_G> You need to register your nick with nickserv, sorry
[08:41] <StR> _shawn: write /msg nickserv help
[08:41] <nalioth> _shawn: type /msg nickserv help register
[08:42] <hilde> when the flash installer ask to install flash witch path is for konquerer
[08:43] <Lars_G> none hilde, you tell konquerOr where netscape plugins are located and he'll read them
[08:44] <hilde> Lars_G: how do I do that?
[08:45] <Lars_G> hilde: Well first we'd need to know where the plugin got installed.
[08:45] <hilde> ./mozilla
[08:45] <Lars_G> ./mozilla ???
[08:45] <Lars_G> ./.mozilla/plugins ??
[08:45] <hilde> yes
[08:46] <Lars_G> ok
[08:46] <Lars_G> in Konqueror:
[08:46] <Lars_G> Settings->Configure Konqueror
[08:46] <Lars_G> Select "plugins" in the left bar.
[08:46] <Lars_G> In the right pane, lower right, under the "scan" tab, select the button "New"
[08:47] <Lars_G> And enter the directory there in the entry field "/home/<login>/.mozilla/plugins"
[08:47] <Lars_G> Once entered. select "Scan for plugins"
[08:47] <whoiam> hey guys, I need some help about compiling kernel
[08:47] <hilde> ok I get the picture
[08:47] <whoiam> it's asking me to enable or disable Symmetric multi-processing support, I'm using a P-4 2.8 with HT support, is it safe to enable this option ? I'm confused since it require two or more CPU, I have only one. but it also disable Hyper threading option while I have a HT supported CPU.
[08:47] <hilde> thanx lars
[08:47] <Lars_G> hilde: No problem.
[08:47] <Lars_G> hilde: Just remember, most plugins, (commercial ones specially) are geared for Mozilla/Firefox, so they go into normally mozilla directories.
[08:48] <Lars_G> hilde: Programs that CAN use netscape plugins, like Konqueror and Opera, instead of having dedicated plugin dirs (though they can), usually scan Mozilla's dirs for plugins.
[08:48] <hilde> I see
[08:49] <Lars_G> whoiam: SMP (Simetric Multiprocessing) is required for HT
[08:49] <Lars_G> whoiam: So, enable it.
[08:49] <whoiam> Lars_G: but I have only one CPU, and it saying kernel will run faster on single CPU if I disable it
[08:49] <Lars_G> whoiam: You have two virtual CPUs via HT, without SMP you will not be able to use HT
[08:50] <whoiam> Lars_G: oh... is that why WinXP show two CPU in taksmonitor ?
[08:52] <mhz> Any ones ever installed kubuntu from HD, no cddrive??
[08:52] <hilde> I got two computers. Comp1 is on the internet, comp2 uses comp1 to get on the internet. Comp2 dosn't have a sound card. Is it possible to use comp1 to play Comp2 sounds?
[08:54] <enquest> I got two computers. Comp1 is on the internet, comp2 uses comp1 to get on the internet. Comp2 dosn't have a sound card. Is it possible to use comp1 to play Comp2 sounds?
[08:54] <Lars_G> enquest: It is if you use a networkable audio system like jack or esd
[08:56] <qos> hey guys ... i installed the fgrlx driver, but now i cant change my screen resolution anymore ... it says i have to install the "resize and rotate" extension ... does anybody know what's going on?
[08:57] <mornfall> qos: your driver probably doesn't support xrandr
[08:57] <mornfall> qos: tough luck
[08:57] <qos> uhmm ... so? how do i change my resolutioN?
[08:58] <mornfall> edit the config file
[08:59] <qos> could you explain, what i have to change?
[08:59] <enquest> I tryied to install 3d drivers on Breezy for my Nvidia geforce 2 but nothing much happens
[08:59] <enquest> I followed the instructions of ubuntu on the wiki
[08:59] <enquest> Is this diffrnet for breezy?
[09:00] <mornfall> qos: try man xorg.conf or somesuch
[09:01] <spiral> hi
[09:32] <Skaman> hi guys anyone knows what app manages KDE themes *.kth ??
[09:34] <philipacamaniac> Skaman: by "theme", do you mean the style+windeco+colors
[09:35] <Skaman> mm I think
[09:35] <Skaman> i downloaded a *.kth fil
[09:35] <philipacamaniac> because i think "theme" support is no longer available in breezy - you can instead install individual styles, windecos and icons, etc
[09:35] <Skaman> but when i double clik on it
[09:35] <philipacamaniac> are you using breezy or hoary
[09:35] <Skaman> breezy
[09:36] <Skaman> it makes like opening an app
[09:36] <Skaman> but then nothing happens
[09:36] <philipacamaniac> yeah, did you get it from kde-look?
[09:36] <philipacamaniac> I would download each individual component from kde-look. again, i think theme support has been removed.
[10:01] <douglas> I want to build a module/driver for my wireless card, and when I run the make script it says: Makefile:8: /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build/.config: No such file or directory?
[10:17] <_simon_> hello,
[10:17] <_simon_> anybody from poland in here ?
[10:22] <Tm_T> polski perkele
[10:39] <slow-motion> n8
[10:39] <MikeStyle> hey guys, i updated my sources.list file to point to breezy instead of hoary and then did killall kde then when i tried to apt-get update it didnt work, so now im stuck without a display manager, so i have to run off a live cd. can anyone help? i think its my sources.list file.
[10:40] <Tm_T> why you killed your kde?
[10:41] <propagandhi> MikeStyle: you have a terminal right??
[10:41] <MikeStyle> yes
[10:42] <propagandhi> so, have u tried apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:43] <MikeStyle> yes but i get errors
[10:43] <propagandhi> what errors
[10:43] <MikeStyle> uhm
[10:43] <propagandhi> paste them
[10:43] <MikeStyle> it starts updating then says recursive error or sumthing is wrong in my sources.list file
[10:44] <propagandhi> ok, paste your sources.list in the pastebin
[10:44] <MikeStyle> im on a live cd rite now, cant cd to the dir of ubuntu cuz im running whax
[10:45] <cyne> hello! :)
[10:45] <propagandhi> ohhh ok
[10:45] <cyne> i just did an apt-get dist-upgrade and rebooted, but now i have 2 open offices, and 2 irc clients and a few other things like that
[10:46] <cyne> ooo1 and ooo2; konversation and ksirc etc
[10:46] <propagandhi> you can remove open office 1 from synaptic/kynaptic
[10:46] <cyne> ok
[10:46] <MikeStyle> where can i find my sources.list file? /something/sources.listr
[10:47] <propagandhi> '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:47] <cyne> propagandhi: what is Kpackage?
[10:47] <propagandhi> its another package management tool
[10:48] <propagandhi> i dont use it personally
[10:48] <cyne> is it superior to kynaptic?
[10:48] <propagandhi> no
[10:48] <propagandhi> i wouldnt say so anyway
[10:48] <cyne> why would it be installed? is Kpackage the default package tool for breezy?
[10:48] <propagandhi> no it isnt
[10:48] <cyne> ok
[10:48] <cyne> so even with breezy, both kynaptic and kpackage are installed
[10:48] <cyne> wierd
[10:49] <propagandhi> i dont have kpackage
[10:49] <propagandhi> it must have been installed elsewhere along the way, and was upgraded in the process
[10:50] <MikeStyle> omg, my firefox keeps freezing when i try to paste it on pastebin
[10:51] <propagandhi> ok, try using konqueror
[10:51] <MikeStyle> ok
[10:51] <MikeStyle> wow konqueror wont even load it
[10:52] <MikeStyle> propagandhi, can i just pm you my sources.list file?
[10:52] <propagandhi> yes
[10:52] <MikeStyle> ok
[10:52] <cyne> famous last words
[10:52] <cyne> :P
[10:52] <propagandhi> actually, I can transfer you mine if you like
[10:52] <MikeStyle> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy main restricted universe multiverse 
[10:52] <MikeStyle> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy main restricted universe multiverse 
[10:52] <MikeStyle> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy-security main restricted universe multiverse 
[10:52] <MikeStyle> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy-security main restricted universe multiverse 
[10:52] <MikeStyle> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy-updates main restricted universe multiverse 
[10:52] <MikeStyle> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy-updates main restricted universe multiverse 
[10:52] <MikeStyle> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu Breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:52] <propagandhi> NO
[10:52] <MikeStyle> deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ Breezy-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[10:52] <propagandhi> not here
[10:52] <MikeStyle> woops
[10:52] <MikeStyle> accident
[10:53] <MikeStyle> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy main restricted universe multiverse 
[10:53] <MikeStyle> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy main restricted universe multiverse 
[10:53] <MikeStyle> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy-security main restricted universe multiverse 
[10:53] <MikeStyle> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy-security main restricted universe multiverse 
[10:53] <MikeStyle> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy-updates main restricted universe multiverse 
[10:53] <MikeStyle> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Breezy-updates main restricted universe multiverse 
[10:53] <propagandhi> i'm sure people will forgive you
[10:53] <MikeStyle> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu Breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:53] <MikeStyle> deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ Breezy-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[10:53] <MikeStyle> omg it wont send
[10:53] <propagandhi> not after that though
[10:53] <MikeStyle> im sorry guys
[10:53] <propagandhi> ha ha ha
[10:53] <MikeStyle> but thats them
[10:53] <MikeStyle> propagandhi, can u pm me, mines not working grr
[10:53] <propagandhi> i dont think the backports are working for breezy yet
[10:54] <MikeStyle> so wut do i do
[10:54] <Tm_T> :/
[10:55] <cyne> propagandhi: i got ScummVM from the backports
[10:56] <cyne> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=47
[10:56] <cyne> anyone know what DVI is?
[10:57] <propagandhi> ok, I didnt know if the backports were up
[11:05] <mhz> caould someone tell mw what i am doing wrong in a try to install kubuntu via local netboot??
[11:08] <mhz> please, anyone?
[11:14] <skaman> ehi guys anyone having problems with kopete?
[11:14] <propagandhi> not me
[11:14] <skaman> all my accounts ar disconnected and unconnectable
[11:14] <skaman> is like kopete is dead
[11:14] <skaman> O_o
[11:14] <skaman> if i try to connect
[11:14] <skaman> nothing happens
[11:15] <propagandhi> so is it telling you it cant resolve msn.messenger.com or something similar?
[11:15] <skaman> no
[11:15] <skaman> just don't happens nothing
[11:15] <SSJ> skaman:What kind of accounts? Are they all MSN, or a mix of AIM and MSN, or...?
[11:15] <propagandhi> and all your other internet stuff works?
[11:15] <skaman> ms icq and aim
[11:15] <skaman> all other stuff works
[11:16] <skaman> kopete opens coloses but doesnt works..
[11:16] <SSJ> skaman:Try starting it from the command-line and check for errors.
[11:16] <propagandhi> perhaps try reinstalling kdenetwork
[11:17] <skaman> starts with no errors
[11:17] <skaman> skaman@Ska-Box:~$ kopete
[11:17] <skaman> skaman@Ska-Box:~$
[11:18] <propagandhi> i'd still suggest trying to reinstall it and see if the problem is fixed
[11:18] <skaman> already done
[11:18] <skaman> nothing solved..
[11:18] <propagandhi> hmm
[11:18] <SSJ> skaman:Could be a problem with your profile, then.
[11:19] <skaman> what shoul I do?
[11:19] <SSJ> skaman:Don't know; sorry :/.  Try #kopete
[11:20] <propagandhi> you could try mv /home/username/.kde /home/username/.kde_old
[11:20] <propagandhi> and reboot
[11:20] <StR> hola?
[11:22] <MikeStyle> hey
[11:22] <propagandhi> howdy again
[11:22] <MikeStyle> ok i got ur email
[11:22] <MikeStyle> and i edited sources.list
[11:22] <MikeStyle> pm me again?
[11:22] <propagandhi> yeah
[11:24] <DAB> Hey everyone. I just installed breezy and I'm having a problem completing the setup. dpkg apparantly died during the installation of packages during the second phase of the install. And now apt-get asks me to run dpkg --configure -a but that just returns an error message
[11:24] <DAB> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c::process_queue: Assertion depentry <' failed.=
[11:25] <DAB> any idea what to do?
[11:26] <DAB> I testet apt-get clean; apt-get autoclean
[11:26] <DAB> did not help :(
[11:26] <mhz> Please, could someone tell me what i am doing wrong in a try to install kubuntu via local netboot??
[11:41] <skaman> anyone knows which package contains Qt?
[11:41] <skaman> Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021))
[11:41] <Tm_T> eh
[11:41] <Tm_T> what you're compiling?
[11:42] <skaman> a style
[11:42] <skaman> for kde
[11:42] <skaman> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6234
[11:43] <Hydrogen> err
[11:43] <Hydrogen> if you have kde
[11:43] <Hydrogen> you have qt
[11:43] <Tm_T> =)
[11:43] <Tm_T> I think he need devel packages
[11:43] <Tm_T> skaman: install kde-devel
[11:44] <skaman> already installed
[11:44] <Tm_T> hmm
[11:44] <_chavo> you need qt devel also
[11:44] <skaman> i can't find the package
[11:44] <Tm_T> apt-get build-dep kde ?
[11:45] <_chavo> libqt3-mt-dev
[11:46] <skaman> already installed
[11:46] <skaman> :S
[11:47] <skaman> Tm_T tried but says me "unable to rech a source package for meta KDE
[11:48] <Tm_T> skaman: I think you got the idea anyway :)
[11:48] <Tm_T> sleep ->
[11:49] <jmg> hey guys
[11:50] <jmg> my laptop shuts down after restoring from suspend
[11:52] <hyperactivecrond> what do i install to get kugar designer?
[11:52] <jmg> apt-get install kugar 
[11:52] <hyperactivecrond> the designer too?
[11:53] <hyperactivecrond> got it :)
[11:53] <hyperactivecrond> kudesigner
[11:53] <skaman> cant get where is Qt :'(