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janimo | bmonty, yes the program will have to be new-version-ubuntu1 and you merge upstream and ubuntu changes | 12:25 |
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bmonty | janimo: thanks, I already uploaded it to REVU | 12:25 |
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ryu | good night | 01:08 |
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bddebian | KICK ASS | 01:44 |
tseng | eh | 01:45 |
bddebian | I fixed droidbattles finally :) | 01:46 |
tseng | good one | 01:47 |
bmonty | nice | 01:47 |
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sebest | anyone using gnome-power-manager ? | 01:53 |
bmonty | sebest: yes | 01:55 |
sebest | bmonty: you don't have a crash when your battery is at 5% ? | 01:55 |
bmonty | sebest: no | 01:56 |
sebest | for me it crashes, i even have a backtrace of it | 01:56 |
bmonty | sebest: you should open a bug on it | 01:58 |
Trashcan | any idea why I have all the python gtk packages installed, but 'import gtk' fails? | 02:00 |
sebest | bmonty: i'll investigate it a bit more | 02:00 |
sebest | Trashcan, you only need pygtk | 02:00 |
Trashcan | i have that | 02:01 |
sebest | python-gtk2 | 02:01 |
Trashcan | python-gtk2 is already the newest version. | 02:01 |
sebest | do you have /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0 ? | 02:02 |
Trashcan | yup | 02:02 |
sebest | and ../pygtk.py ? | 02:03 |
Trashcan | yeh | 02:03 |
sebest | does "import pygtk" works? | 02:03 |
Trashcan | yessir | 02:04 |
sebest | is it python 2.4 ? | 02:04 |
Trashcan | yes | 02:05 |
Trashcan | hang on | 02:06 |
sebest | try this: | 02:06 |
sebest | import pygtk | 02:06 |
sebest | print pygtk._get-available_versions() | 02:06 |
sebest | oups | 02:06 |
bddebian | LaserJock: Your ghemical and mopac stuff just came through | 02:06 |
sebest | print pygtk._get_available_versions() | 02:07 |
Trashcan | {'2.0': '/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0', '1.2': '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-1.2'} | 02:07 |
Trashcan | it's something else causing hte problem | 02:07 |
sebest | no do this: | 02:08 |
sebest | pygtk.require('2.0') | 02:08 |
sebest | and try importing gtk: import gtk | 02:08 |
sebest | btw why do you have gtk-2.0 in /usr/local ??????? | 02:09 |
Trashcan | that's where it installed to :\ | 02:09 |
Trashcan | http://trashes.pastebin.com/381157 | 02:09 |
sebest | you compiled it from source? | 02:09 |
Trashcan | nope | 02:09 |
Trashcan | synaptic | 02:09 |
sebest | so rm -rf it | 02:09 |
sebest | synaptic never install stuff in /usr/local afaik | 02:10 |
slomo | Trashcan: our packages install the stuff into /usr | 02:10 |
LaserJock | bddebian: great news, so when would it be in the repo? | 02:10 |
Trashcan | :\ | 02:10 |
Trashcan | i never compiled | 02:10 |
Trashcan | i never even downloaded it | 02:10 |
Trashcan | heh | 02:10 |
sebest | rm -rf /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0 | 02:10 |
Trashcan | k | 02:10 |
Trashcan | is it possible it came with something else I compiled? | 02:10 |
bddebian | LaserJock: Hard to say since libghemical and mopac7 are NEW. | 02:10 |
Trashcan | deleted | 02:11 |
sebest | retry the get_avail ... | 02:11 |
slomo | ok, good night everybody :) | 02:11 |
sebest | night slomo | 02:11 |
Trashcan | {'2.0': '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0', '1.2': '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-1.2'} | 02:11 |
Trashcan | night slomo | 02:11 |
sebest | Trachcan, it looks better now | 02:12 |
Trashcan | it works fine now | 02:12 |
Trashcan | :) | 02:12 |
sebest | ;) | 02:12 |
Trashcan | thanks! | 02:12 |
sebest | u'r welcome ;) | 02:12 |
Trashcan | I'm a windows dev, so I've never touched this gtk stuff :) | 02:13 |
Trashcan | I've never touched python, at that | 02:13 |
sebest | i'm also new to python | 02:13 |
sebest | the more i use it, the more i like it :) | 02:13 |
Trashcan | same :D | 02:13 |
sebest | bed time for me, bye Trashcan | 02:14 |
Trashcan | night | 02:14 |
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ajmitch | afternoon | 02:24 |
bmonty | hey ajmitch | 02:25 |
tambaqui | afternoon? | 02:26 |
ajmitch | bddebian: you let unfixed bugs creep up to 500 again! | 02:26 |
ajmitch | I just had to close one to compensate | 02:26 |
tambaqui | ok, I'm sorry in Brasil is night | 02:26 |
ajmitch | tambaqui: that's nice, but it's afternoon where I am :) | 02:27 |
tambaqui | ok :) | 02:27 |
bddebian | ajmitch: Aye sorry. :'-( I have sucked today :'-( | 02:28 |
ajmitch | bddebian: at least you fixed droidbattles | 02:28 |
ajmitch | it's monday here, so I can't fix many | 02:29 |
bmonty | I've been watching bddebian all day and he has been slacking! | 02:30 |
bddebian | Aye :-( | 02:30 |
ajmitch | bddebian: well how are you going to get 1337 karma if you don't fix bugs? ;) | 02:32 |
bmonty | lol | 02:32 |
bddebian | ajmitch: No shix :-( | 02:33 |
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bddebian | pfft | 02:37 |
=== Kyral thinks to himself *Do I really wanna become a MOTU after watchin' these guys?* :P | ||
bddebian | Heh | 02:40 |
bddebian | ajmitch: Better to put in bmonty :-) | 02:40 |
bmonty | put in that I'll never be an MOTU cause I can't get to the technical board meetings | 02:40 |
ajmitch | oh I shoudl put in both of you | 02:41 |
bddebian | bmonty: :( | 02:41 |
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Kyral | At least you guys have a sense of humor | 02:41 |
ajmitch | we do? ;) | 02:42 |
bddebian | Kyral: ajmitch doesn't ;-P | 02:42 |
bmonty | I was going to take Tuesday as a half day to get the to the meeting, my boss was good with it, but then scheduled me for an all day class on that day! | 02:42 |
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bddebian | bmonty: So just quit. ;-P | 02:42 |
Kyral | Indeed Indeed! For in this life to be serious all the time is quite a waste indeed! | 02:42 |
bmonty | bddebian: quitting in not an option for me :) | 02:42 |
Kyral | I'll take his spot | 02:43 |
bddebian | bmonty: Yeah me either but it sounds good sometimes doesn't it? :-) | 02:43 |
ajmitch | bddebian: you're right, I don't have a sense of humour | 02:43 |
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Kyral | Oh well, I'm just sitting around to learn. But right now Love Hina calls | 02:44 |
bmonty | wtf is "Love Hina"?? | 02:44 |
ajmitch | Kyral: learn away :) you want to help fix bugs? | 02:44 |
Kyral | Anime :D | 02:44 |
bmonty | ...or maybe I don't want to know | 02:44 |
Kyral | ajmitch, I've already helped out in #ubuntu-desktop | 02:45 |
ajmitch | yes, I saw you were there | 02:45 |
Kyral | But tonight I need to relax 'cause tomarrow I gotta work my butt off. Big contest starting | 02:45 |
bmonty | bddebian: did you use that -D with the compile options for xmkmf? | 02:48 |
bddebian | bmonty: Aye | 02:49 |
bmonty | no dice? | 02:49 |
ajmitch | ah, xmkmf | 02:49 |
bddebian | It seems to get re-assigned again by the X11.rules | 02:49 |
bddebian | /etc/X11/config/cf/X11.rules:41: warning: "XBinDir" redefined | 02:49 |
bddebian | ajmitch: You know it? | 02:49 |
bmonty | grep the source for it and delete the lines :) | 02:49 |
bddebian | bmonty: I personally think our xmkmf package is b0rked but I ain't touching that one :-) | 02:50 |
bmonty | I wouldn't either | 02:50 |
ajmitch | bddebian: I just know that you need to sacrifice a goat to the spirits of X to get it to work | 02:50 |
bddebian | ajmitch: That seems to be the general response/feeling :-) | 02:51 |
bmonty | where is a good reference on debconf's config file? | 02:53 |
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Kyral | Well that was unpleasent | 02:53 |
bddebian | bmonty: Did you say you were already looking at libmetakit? | 02:53 |
bmonty | bddebian: I don't think so | 02:53 |
bddebian | OK | 02:55 |
bmonty | I'm looking at msttcorefonts right now | 02:55 |
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bddebian | Heya crimsun | 02:56 |
bddebian | Gotta run for bit. bbl | 02:56 |
crimsun | hey bddebian | 02:56 |
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bmonty | bbl | 03:05 |
bmonty | bddebian: check out the new xmkmf package | 03:05 |
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bddebian | ajmitch: Got another 1.. ;-P | 04:45 |
ajmitch | yay | 04:49 |
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ajmitch | s/nit/it/ | 04:50 |
bddebian | mwuhahaha | 04:50 |
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ajmitch | sure | 05:16 |
bddebian | Heh | 05:19 |
bddebian | Maybe I'll rename it NAMBLAview ;-P | 05:19 |
bigcx2 | hey guys | 05:19 |
bddebian | Hello bigcx2 | 05:20 |
ajmitch | bddebian: suits you :) | 05:20 |
bigcx2 | how long does it usually take to get approved as a ubuntu member? | 05:20 |
ajmitch | hello bigcx2 | 05:20 |
ajmitch | bigcx2: it depends on what work you've done | 05:20 |
ajmitch | since they look for contributions over a period of time | 05:20 |
bigcx2 | ahh so they consistently check out your wiki page, etc until they feel you've contributed enough? | 05:21 |
ajmitch | no, that would be too much work :) | 05:22 |
bigcx2 | lol i see | 05:22 |
ajmitch | you turn up at community council meeting | 05:22 |
bddebian | ajmitch: :-) | 05:22 |
ajmitch | and it gets reviewed there | 05:22 |
ajmitch | and people speaj up for you saying how they'v worked with you, your contibutions, etc | 05:22 |
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ajmitch | s/speaj/speak/ | 05:22 |
bigcx2 | oh ok | 05:23 |
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ajmitch | bddebian: why? | 05:23 |
bigcx2 | i haven't exactly worked with anybody on a project yet but i just finished writing some documentation and fixing a broken package... | 05:23 |
bddebian | ajmitch: From my lack of contributions. ;-P | 05:24 |
bigcx2 | bddebian: what did you do to get in initially? | 05:24 |
bddebian | bigcx2: I just tried to help with fixing packages. | 05:24 |
ajmitch | bddebian: sure, you've done *nothing*.. right.. | 05:24 |
bddebian | ajmitch: Right ;-P | 05:24 |
bddebian | bigcx2: And made some wiki pages, etc | 05:25 |
ajmitch | they were desperate for people when they let me in :P | 05:25 |
bigcx2 | alright well @ least i'm on the right path | 05:25 |
bigcx2 | lol | 05:25 |
ajmitch | they'd take anyone who was barely warm | 05:25 |
bddebian | ajmitch: Oh OK Mr. DD | 05:25 |
bigcx2 | haha | 05:25 |
bigcx2 | DD? | 05:26 |
ajmitch | bddebian: I wasn't then | 05:26 |
bddebian | bigcx2: Debian Developer | 05:26 |
bigcx2 | Debian Developer | 05:26 |
bigcx2 | duh | 05:26 |
bigcx2 | lol | 05:26 |
bigcx2 | that's pretty sweet | 05:27 |
tambaqui | :) | 05:27 |
bddebian | bigcx2: Yeah, ajmitch is a stud :) | 05:28 |
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ajmitch | my main contribution is lurking on IRC | 05:28 |
bigcx2 | so can anybody tell me why ubuntu and debian don't just merge together and make one unstoppable linux beast | 05:29 |
ajmitch | because they have different goals, and trying to make debian fit a 6 month release cycle would be painful? | 05:30 |
bddebian | Different philosphies | 05:30 |
bddebian | philosophies even | 05:30 |
bigcx2 | i guessed it had somethin to do with releases | 05:31 |
bigcx2 | what's the difference in philosophy? | 05:31 |
bigcx2 | the way administration is handled? | 05:32 |
ajmitch | debian is the 'universal OS', for many architectures & a huge number of supported packages | 05:32 |
ajmitch | which makes it great to make derivatives from | 05:32 |
bddebian | From an outsider perspective I think Ubuntu tends to be more desktop oriented where Debian not so much so | 05:33 |
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bigcx2 | yea i can see that | 05:33 |
bigcx2 | i guess as long as changes made in ubuntu (i.e. bugs, etc) can be easily pushed back into debian and vice versa there isn't a problem | 05:33 |
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bigcx2 | do you guys think that's the case as it is now? | 05:34 |
ajmitch | that's what we aim to do | 05:34 |
ajmitch | and it's working somewhat | 05:34 |
ajmitch | but there are people involved, so things don't always run smooth :) | 05:34 |
ajmitch | hey jsgotangco | 05:34 |
bigcx2 | i hear ya | 05:35 |
jsgotangco | hi | 05:35 |
jsgotangco | hmm im having serious slowdown over here | 05:36 |
ajmitch | so am I | 05:36 |
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bddebian | heh | 05:36 |
bigcx2 | oh wait a sec | 05:37 |
bigcx2 | ajmitch: you're the guy that's taking care of my zope-ldap bug report on malone | 05:37 |
bigcx2 | just got the connection there | 05:38 |
ajmitch | oh, that's you :) | 05:39 |
ajmitch | you have the package for me to look at? :) | 05:39 |
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bigcx2 | yea it's on my homepage but i think our server might be pissed right now :) hold on | 05:39 |
ajmitch | the way I was using dh_installzope, it complained | 05:40 |
Kyral | Are there are Universe Candidates I can take a shot at? | 05:40 |
bigcx2 | i couldn't do it in one file | 05:40 |
ajmitch | Kyral: sure, pick one on the wiki page, check that it's not already in universe or on revu.tauware.de | 05:41 |
ajmitch | bigcx2: it's not meant to be done in one file, I think | 05:41 |
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bigcx2 | right, but in the current version it is | 05:41 |
bigcx2 | :) | 05:41 |
bigcx2 | my wepage is kinda bein squirrely right now | 05:42 |
bigcx2 | s/wepage/webpage | 05:42 |
bigcx2 | how else can i get it to ya | 05:42 |
Kyral | hmm | 05:42 |
Kyral | I'm gonna tackle ABC | 05:42 |
ajmitch | bigcx2: email a debdiff to me | 05:44 |
ajmitch | bigcx2: if you changed it, and changed debian/changelog | 05:44 |
ajmitch | then you can dpkg-buildpackage -S | 05:44 |
ajmitch | to get a new .dsc file | 05:44 |
bddebian | *sigh* No one wants to fix the broken stuff | 05:44 |
ajmitch | and debdiff oldversion.dsc newversion.dsc | 05:44 |
ajmitch | bddebian: that's what you were hired for | 05:44 |
bigcx2 | alright | 05:45 |
bddebian | Heh | 05:45 |
bigcx2 | brb | 05:45 |
bddebian | Well I haven't seen my paycheck yet.. ;-P | 05:45 |
ajmitch | bddebian: we pay with with our love & respect ;) | 05:46 |
Kyral | So if I get this packaged I just send it to one of you guys? | 05:46 |
ajmitch | Kyral: ideally you'd upload it to revu.tauware.de | 05:46 |
bddebian | Kyral: No, you need to request an account on revu | 05:46 |
Kyral | I'm not a MOTU | 05:46 |
Kyral | just a MOTU wannabe :P | 05:46 |
ajmitch | that's what it's there for | 05:46 |
bddebian | ajmitch: Then I'm definetly underpaid.. ;-P | 05:46 |
ajmitch | so non-MOTUs can upload stuff | 05:46 |
ajmitch | and we check it | 05:46 |
ajmitch | bddebian: ok, we really pay you in abuse ;) | 05:47 |
Kyral | oh wait...I should make a Hoary Chroot for this.. | 05:47 |
ajmitch | why hoary? | 05:47 |
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Kyral | 'cause I'm in Breezy :P | 05:47 |
ajmitch | so? | 05:47 |
Kyral | good point! | 05:47 |
ajmitch | we always develop packages for the current development release | 05:47 |
Kyral | Here goes! | 05:48 |
bddebian | ajmitch: Oh is that what we are supposed to be doing?? :-) | 05:48 |
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ajmitch | bddebian: apparantly | 05:49 |
Kyral | its the only way I know how right now :P | 05:49 |
ajmitch | I'm just biased :) | 05:51 |
Kyral | hold on, there is no Makefile....is that gonna be a problem? | 05:51 |
Kyral | Anyway Showering calls | 05:52 |
bigcx2 | ajmitch: what email should is send it to | 05:58 |
bigcx2 | i* | 05:58 |
ajmitch | ajmitch@ubuntu.com will be fine | 06:01 |
bigcx2 | alright, sent it | 06:02 |
bmonty | good night everyone | 06:04 |
jsgotangco | night | 06:04 |
bigcx2 | night | 06:04 |
bddebian | Gnight bmonty | 06:04 |
bddebian | I think I'll call it a night too. Later folks | 06:06 |
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ajmitch | bigcx2: looks very similar to what I did :) | 06:10 |
ajmitch | except I was getting: | 06:11 |
ajmitch | dh_installzope python/Products/ZLDAPMethods | 06:11 |
ajmitch | dh_installzope: unable to handle directories and multiple dzproduct/dzextension files | 06:11 |
bigcx2 | hm | 06:11 |
bigcx2 | i know mine worked | 06:11 |
bigcx2 | i put it in our local repository | 06:12 |
bigcx2 | and tested it | 06:12 |
bigcx2 | i don't remember getting any errors | 06:12 |
bigcx2 | it will be nice when i can just upload my stuff into universe | 06:13 |
bigcx2 | :) | 06:13 |
ajmitch | it can take a little while | 06:13 |
bigcx2 | ajmitch: what all did you put into those two files | 06:15 |
ajmitch | aha | 06:15 |
ajmitch | + zope-ldap (1.1.0-3ubuntu2) hoary; urgency=low | 06:15 |
ajmitch | we build for breezy | 06:15 |
ajmitch | a few patch hunks were rejected | 06:16 |
bigcx2 | whoops, didn't think about that one | 06:16 |
bigcx2 | hold on a sec | 06:16 |
ajmitch | I can fix that up | 06:16 |
ajmitch | since debian/control rejected as well for some reason | 06:16 |
bigcx2 | can you tell that from the debdiff | 06:18 |
bigcx2 | i've never had to use that before | 06:18 |
ajmitch | not off hand | 06:18 |
ajmitch | but I'm still at work :) | 06:18 |
ajmitch | so I'll fix it up when I go home in a few minutes | 06:19 |
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bigcx2 | alright cool | 06:19 |
Kyral | hmm | 06:19 |
Kyral | how would I package a bunch of py files? | 06:19 |
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bigcx2 | night | 06:20 |
ajmitch | bigcx2: night :) | 06:20 |
ajmitch | Kyral: does it use distutils? | 06:20 |
Kyral | wazzat> | 06:20 |
ajmitch | is there a setup.py there? | 06:21 |
Kyral | a setupabc.py | 06:22 |
ajmitch | right, so probably not | 06:22 |
ajmitch | so you'll have to write most of the installation or hack setupabc.py :) | 06:22 |
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Kyral | and I know nothing about Python | 06:23 |
Kyral | but what is DistUtils? | 06:23 |
ajmitch | you know nothing about python, but you want to package this? | 06:23 |
Kyral | I didn't know it was in Python until I unpacked it | 06:23 |
ajmitch | \sh! :) | 06:24 |
\sh | moins | 06:25 |
\sh | gnarf | 06:25 |
\sh | doko_: did u requested a sync of rrdcollect? | 06:25 |
\sh | doko_: because it is like this, please check the next time the buildds, if the source compiles :( | 06:28 |
Kyral | Ack! Time for an ugly hack! | 06:29 |
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ajmitch | bbiab, time to walk home | 06:33 |
Kyral | well this is interesting | 06:36 |
Kyral | anyone ever hear of scons? | 06:39 |
tritium | make replacement? | 06:44 |
lifeless | yes | 06:44 |
Kyral | yah | 06:45 |
Kyral | this vDrift uses it | 06:46 |
\sh | and sometimes a real buildd beast | 06:46 |
Kyral | I wonder if dh_make is gonna freak out.. | 06:46 |
\sh | what has dh_make to do with it? | 06:46 |
Kyral | Its the only way I know how to make packages right now | 06:46 |
\sh | it won't even recognize scons ;) so u have to deal with it in debian/rules itself | 06:47 |
Kyral | ah | 06:48 |
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Kyral | well one hurdle is outta the way, thing compiles and runs by itself nicely | 06:50 |
Kyral | I'll finish this tomarrow | 07:01 |
Kyral | Shouldn't be hard IF the changes I made in Rules hold.. | 07:05 |
\sh | hmmm..why don't we have the lastfm player in universe? | 07:11 |
ajmitch | yay, new memory card for camera, I can take plenty of UBZ photos now ;) | 07:13 |
\sh | ajmitch: bah..I need a new camera first ;) | 07:13 |
tritium | anyone en route to UBZ that passes through New Mexico is welcome at my place | 07:16 |
ajmitch | flying through SF & vancouver, sorry :) | 07:17 |
tritium | :) | 07:17 |
tritium | Yeah, it's not a likely stop for many here :) | 07:17 |
ajmitch | \sh: I picked up my tickets today from the travel agent, too ;) | 07:17 |
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ajmitch | sigh, I still need more karma :) | 07:19 |
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Burgundavia | ajmitch, what is the flight number out of vancouver? | 07:28 |
ajmitch | umm | 07:29 |
ajmitch | let me check | 07:29 |
ajmitch | AC182 | 07:30 |
\sh | woo...the fog | 07:31 |
Burgundavia | ajmitch, you are flying later in the day than me | 07:31 |
ajmitch | Burgundavia: or earlier | 07:31 |
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ajmitch | I get into Montreal at 7:11AM on the 29th | 07:31 |
Burgundavia | ajmitch, AC flight numbers are linear | 07:31 |
Burgundavia | ouch | 07:31 |
ajmitch | when do you arrive? | 07:32 |
\sh | ajmitch: what? so prepare some beer for siretart and me we're joining you around 17:00 montreal time ;) | 07:32 |
ajmitch | \sh: I think we're having a little celebration on the 29th anyway ;) | 07:32 |
\sh | ajmitch: hehe...drinking the jetlag away ;) | 07:33 |
Burgundavia | ajmitch, hmm, odd, 3:40 pm of me | 07:33 |
ajmitch | haha | 07:33 |
ajmitch | jetlag+alcohol would be harsh | 07:33 |
\sh | ajmitch: well...I'm starting with this drinking party around 8am UTC ;) | 07:33 |
ajmitch | :) | 07:34 |
\sh | ajmitch: well...for us it's not a problem...starting 14:00 UTC+2 -> arrival in montreal: 16:00 montreal time | 07:35 |
ajmitch | ah | 07:35 |
\sh | so actually a 2 hours flight *sigh* | 07:35 |
ajmitch | heh | 07:35 |
ajmitch | I go the other way | 07:35 |
ajmitch | leave NZ on the 28th, at 8:20pm | 07:36 |
ajmitch | arrive in SF on the 28th, at 12:20 :) | 07:36 |
ajmitch | so I go back in time | 07:36 |
ajmitch | going home, I have a flight that leaves the US on the 15th & arrives in auckland on the 17th | 07:37 |
\sh | wow... | 07:38 |
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Burgundavia | it took me 3 days to get home from mataro | 07:39 |
Burgundavia | I had two overnight stays, one in London and one in Vancouver | 07:39 |
ajmitch | I made sure I don't have any overnight stays | 07:39 |
ajmitch | I do have 8 hours to kill in LAX though :( | 07:39 |
Burgundavia | couldn't avoid it | 07:39 |
Burgundavia | nothing left spain early enough to get a westbound flight | 07:40 |
Burgundavia | as the last one leaves around 3 pm | 07:40 |
\sh | well...for us it's quite good... | 07:40 |
\sh | leaving cologne at 10:54 .de time, arriving 11:45 .de time in frankfurt, leaving 2pm .de time frankfurt so only 2 1/4 hours to kill...but I think there will be some other ubuntu guys to meet up with and have a drink | 07:41 |
ajmitch | btw can people fill in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReportDraft so that dholbach doesn't have to do it all, please? :) | 07:41 |
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\sh | hmmm.... | 07:50 |
\sh | I need to test a new daily iso | 07:50 |
ajmitch | for your network driver? | 07:50 |
\sh | yepp | 07:50 |
\sh | http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16785 <- nice one I figured out | 07:54 |
ajmitch | oh, that one :) | 07:56 |
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ormandj | is there any reason postfix-mysql is linked to libmysql10 instead of 12 like every other mysql depending program? | 08:08 |
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ormandj | or is that something i should submit a bug report on? | 08:08 |
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ajmitch | file bug | 08:09 |
ormandj | ajmitch, hi :) nice to see you again, how are you today? | 08:09 |
ormandj | and ok, will do. | 08:09 |
ajmitch | I'm good, how are you? | 08:10 |
ormandj | well, i spent the last week working on LDAP as a directory server for all of the server-side apps, and it's just so backwards it's retarded, so i'm going to deploy mysql for that purpose instead | 08:10 |
ormandj | so was bad, but now good | 08:10 |
ormandj | when the only source of good documentation is RFCs, something is wrong. ;) | 08:11 |
ajmitch | especially when things don't follow the RFCs properly :) | 08:11 |
ormandj | yes, which is what i ran into, and why i've been tearing my hair out, lol | 08:11 |
ormandj | i'll just cluster a bunch of mysql servers to effectively do the same thing as replication in LDAP and be done with it | 08:12 |
ormandj | now if only ubuntu.com would let me login :P | 08:13 |
ajmitch | :) | 08:13 |
ormandj | how's life treating you ajmitch? | 08:13 |
ajmitch | fairly well, finished work for the day | 08:13 |
ormandj | good good, you're a kiwi i see, like it there? i only visited once so i'm a bit curious :) | 08:14 |
ajmitch | yeah, I am, it's quite good | 08:14 |
ajmitch | when were you in NZ? | 08:14 |
ajmitch | btw what's the time there now? I'm curious to see what TZ difference there is | 08:15 |
ormandj | i was there about 2 years ago, in march. (2003) | 08:15 |
ormandj | it's 2015 here | 08:15 |
ajmitch | nice, did you visit dunedin? | 08:15 |
ajmitch | ok, 1915 here | 08:15 |
ormandj | i'm horrible with names, anything i should remember if i did? | 08:15 |
ajmitch | dunedin is down south | 08:16 |
ajmitch | if you visited the south island :) | 08:16 |
ormandj | na, i don't believe i did | 08:16 |
ajmitch | that's a shame | 08:16 |
ormandj | that's the nice part? | 08:16 |
ajmitch | it's the nicest part :) | 08:16 |
ormandj | hehe | 08:16 |
ormandj | well, i leave the country once a month or so, i'll put it on my list. you suggest dunedin? | 08:17 |
jsgotangco | is the south island middle earth? =) | 08:17 |
ormandj | jsgotangco, no, that's hawaii where i live :P | 08:17 |
ajmitch | jsgotangco: no, but parts of middle earth were in the south :) | 08:17 |
ajmitch | ormandj: dunedin is just where I live at the moment | 08:17 |
ajmitch | not a bad little town | 08:17 |
ajmitch | we've got linux.conf.au here in january | 08:17 |
Yagisan | ajmitch: note the .au | 08:17 |
ajmitch | Yagisan: of course | 08:18 |
ormandj | nice. when exactly? i'll be in romania until about the 8th of janurary | 08:18 |
ajmitch | 23rd-28th Jan | 08:18 |
Yagisan | hehe - you'll be two more states soon hehe | 08:18 |
ormandj | hm, i might be able to work that out. pretty nice conference? | 08:18 |
ajmitch | Yagisan: unlikely - NZ would join as one state I think | 08:18 |
Yagisan | ajmitch: sorry - I just could not resist | 08:18 |
ajmitch | ormandj: yeah, one of the best technical conferences still around | 08:18 |
ajmitch | Yagisan: I'm just waiting for the common border, common currency, and common deportation rules ;) | 08:19 |
Yagisan | ajmitch: Although for most intents and purposes - we are one country | 08:19 |
ajmitch | of course | 08:19 |
jsgotangco | ajmitch, lot's of places to stay during linux.conf? | 08:20 |
ajmitch | the south island wouldn't be self sufficient enough to have a state government | 08:20 |
ajmitch | jsgotangco: I hope so :) | 08:20 |
jsgotangco | well i wouldn't really want to sleep in a tent... | 08:20 |
Yagisan | ajmitch: well if tasmiania can be a state - I don't see why south island can't | 08:20 |
ormandj | ajmitch, i'll probably be pestering you about that come december when i start making plans | 08:20 |
ajmitch | Yagisan: how many people in tasmania? | 08:20 |
Yagisan | ajmitch: about half a million | 08:22 |
ajmitch | ok | 08:22 |
Yagisan | ajmitch: south island ? | 08:23 |
ajmitch | a bit more than that, maybe 800K people | 08:23 |
ajmitch | brb | 08:23 |
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slomo | doko: already told elmo/lamont/infinity to remove eclipse from pas at least for amd64 and ppc? | 11:46 |
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marcin_a` | hi guys | 12:26 |
markuman | hi, for my first upload package on revu i have make it wrong :-/ and so ive build it new. should i upload it or waiting for deleting my first upload? | 12:27 |
siretart | markuman: just reupload your new try | 12:28 |
marcin_a` | could someone tell me if there is a difference between: dpkg-buildpackage and running debian/rules binary directly in sources tree? | 12:29 |
siretart | markuman: your new upload will get another upload id, no problem therefore | 12:29 |
siretart | morning folks | 12:29 |
janimo | hi siretart | 12:29 |
ajmitch | hi | 12:29 |
siretart | marcin_a`: dpkg-buildpackage does a bit more. look in /usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage for details, it is written in perl | 12:29 |
siretart | morning janimo, hi ajmitch | 12:30 |
marcin_a` | siretart: hmm I don't know perl but this script is pretty easy to understand... it does a bit more but not much | 12:34 |
marcin_a` | siretart: anyway thanks for info | 12:34 |
siretart | marcin_a`: you're welcome | 12:35 |
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markuman | hm, i think i need a little help for log in on revue. gpg -d and there is nothing for copy and paste :-/ | 01:00 |
markuman | or am i wrong? | 01:00 |
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sistpoty | hi folks | 01:27 |
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slomo | all dead here? ;) | 01:50 |
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sistpoty | slomo: should we morgue ghc5? | 01:51 |
slomo | yes... i know of at least 3 people who said that this should be morgued ;) | 01:51 |
sistpoty | ok, so be it ;) | 01:52 |
slomo | but seems like elmo doesn't like to remove stuff from the archives... at least he didn't answer my mails | 01:52 |
sistpoty | hehe | 01:52 |
sistpoty | you did ask him to morgue it already? | 01:52 |
slomo | no... but other stuff | 01:52 |
sistpoty | ok | 01:52 |
slomo | but... if you write him a mail maybe include my stuff too ;) | 01:53 |
sistpoty | *g* | 01:53 |
slomo | what's your email address? i'll forward my mail to you ;) | 01:53 |
sistpoty | daemon@poleboy.de and now even sistpoty@ubuntu.com ;) | 01:53 |
slomo | ok, sent | 01:54 |
sistpoty | I'd like to ask the dd (wibble) about ghc5 first, maybe he's got some deeper insights... what do you think? | 01:54 |
slomo | don't know... so better ask him :) | 01:55 |
sistpoty | ok, I'll cc you ;) | 01:56 |
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sistpoty | slomo: mail to wibble is out | 02:06 |
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sistpoty | cya | 02:34 |
siretart | bye sistpoty! | 02:34 |
siretart | gnarf, too late :/ | 02:34 |
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zakame | hi all | 02:48 |
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Kyral | Good morning | 03:34 |
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Kyral | Time to start hacking away again | 03:35 |
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bddebian | Heya gang | 03:48 |
Kyral | yo | 03:49 |
Kyral | sup | 03:49 |
bddebian | Heya Kyral | 03:50 |
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Kyral | Right now I'm hoping that the changes I made to the Rules file for vdrift hold up | 03:51 |
bddebian | Heh | 03:52 |
Kyral | tried to modify it to use scons | 03:52 |
Kyral | Have no clue if its gonna work | 03:52 |
Kyral | Ah well, only one way to find out | 03:56 |
Kyral | Actually the prospect of me becoming a MOTU both amuses and scares people at my Linux Lab | 03:57 |
bddebian | Hehe, I know that feeling :-) | 03:58 |
Kyral | Had a friend who uses Debian tell me "Stay out of my Distro!" | 03:58 |
Trashcan | :p | 03:58 |
Kyral | Actually if any of you guys could spare a sec could you look at a project I have been working on? | 03:59 |
bddebian | Kyral: I can't at the moment but maybe in a bit | 04:00 |
Kyral | yah its no prob | 04:00 |
Kyral | thing is still beta... | 04:00 |
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Trashcan | what is it exactly? | 04:05 |
Kyral | Eh, Link is better :P | 04:05 |
Kyral | espcially since I'm coding right now | 04:06 |
Kyral | http://www.clarkson.edu/projects/cosi/fa2005/students/petermcv/ | 04:06 |
Kyral | the second one | 04:06 |
Kyral | And before you ask WHY it was made in C++, its because its the only language I'm proficient in (aside from HTML and CSS) right now | 04:07 |
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zakame | hmmm, lighttpd has so many deps | 04:11 |
Kyral | Gah, who is the Copyright holder to vDrift? | 04:13 |
Kyral | Its clear that its GPL2, but who is the owner? | 04:13 |
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Kyral | I'll just put the guy who is in charge of the SourceForge project for it | 04:14 |
Kyral | err, the developer guys :P | 04:15 |
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Seveas | hi ogra! | 04:20 |
ogra | hi | 04:20 |
Seveas | ogra, I wanna triage bugs and mdz is a bit unresponsive | 04:20 |
Seveas | can you give me editbug privileges? | 04:20 |
ogra | he's away, and i'll be soon too.. its a public holiday here | 04:21 |
ogra | yup | 04:21 |
Seveas | thanks! | 04:21 |
Kyral | hey I change "unstable" to "breezy" right? | 04:21 |
Kyral | in the changelog? | 04:21 |
ogra | Seveas, whats your bugzilla account ? | 04:22 |
bddebian | Kyral: Yes | 04:22 |
bddebian | Heya ogra | 04:22 |
Seveas | dennis@kaarsemaker.net | 04:22 |
ogra | ah, double n ;) | 04:22 |
Kyral | hey can you enable mine to mark things in the Bugzilla too? | 04:22 |
ogra | Seveas, done | 04:22 |
ogra | bddebian, hi | 04:22 |
Seveas | ogra, tyvm! | 04:23 |
ogra | :) | 04:23 |
Seveas | let the triaging begin :) | 04:23 |
blueyed | Where should I file a bug report for package "translate" (from universe) in Breezy? | 04:25 |
bddebian | w00t Seveas | 04:25 |
bddebian | blueyed: Malone | 04:25 |
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bddebian | Seveas: I've got one for ya if you are looking for something to fix! :-) | 04:28 |
Kyral | Anyone wanna suggest how I built a package that I shouldn't have been able to? | 04:28 |
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zakame | hmmm... which is better? one lighttpd with all the features, or several lighttpd-* pkgs with individual features? | 04:29 |
Kyral | well holy cow | 04:29 |
Kyral | it seems that my rules hack to scons worked | 04:29 |
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Kyral | or not.. | 04:33 |
bddebian | Kyral: Why shouldn't you have been able to | 04:34 |
Kyral | Because accordng to the objdump I didn't have libstdc++6-dev (which I listed as a build-dep 'cause thats what dpkg -S turned up) | 04:35 |
Kyral | anyone know what I have to pass to Sconstruct to get it to install into the current dir? | 04:37 |
Kyral | nm.. | 04:38 |
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Kyral | anyone know the equiv to install -d in scons? | 04:53 |
dereks_ | anyplans for ifolder support in breezy? | 04:53 |
Nafallo | hmm | 04:54 |
Nafallo | he didn't have time to wait or something, said peer :-). | 04:54 |
Kyral | Thing compiles fine, but it keeps trying to install into the system.. | 04:55 |
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ryu | hi | 05:02 |
zakame | hmm, what do I do if the upstream source has a ./debian dir? shall I move it somewhere else? or shall I kindly ask upstream to remove it? | 05:02 |
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Kyral | I hate scons.... | 05:07 |
Kyral | Why oh why can't people stick with Makefiles? | 05:07 |
bddebian | WTF is scons? | 05:10 |
Kyral | some python based Make replacement | 05:10 |
bddebian | Ahh | 05:10 |
Kyral | Which vdrift just happens to use | 05:10 |
bddebian | Use install -d in your rules to move the files around if you have to :) | 05:11 |
Kyral | Scons doesn't USE install -d | 05:11 |
bddebian | I understand that but you are using a debian/rules file right? | 05:11 |
Kyral | yah | 05:11 |
zakame | could that be a bug? | 05:11 |
Lathiat | ajmitch: avahi 0.5.2 will be a sync from experimental soon | 05:11 |
Kyral | SCons is basically a python script. And since I don't know python... | 05:12 |
Kyral | or do you mean preface the scons command with install -d? | 05:13 |
bddebian | Kyral: paste your debian/rules to a pastebin somewhere | 05:13 |
Kyral | Thing builds fine, its just that it tries to jump to the root of the system | 05:13 |
bddebian | What do you mean by jump to the root?? | 05:14 |
zakame | cd / ? | 05:14 |
Kyral | It tries to install into /usr/games | 05:15 |
bddebian | Is it a dh_make package? | 05:16 |
Kyral | #ubuntu-scons | 05:17 |
Kyral | no | 05:17 |
Kyral | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2738 | 05:18 |
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Kyral | and here is the error (at the bottom) | 05:21 |
Kyral | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2739 | 05:21 |
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Kyral | I'm half ready to say **** scons and write a Makefile | 05:25 |
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bddebian | Kyral: Ah. Yes, what I am saying is that in install: build section after the scons isntall ... line, you should be able to do something like install -d -m 644 $(CURDIR)/debian/vdrift-20051002/foo/bar $(CURDIR)/usr/foo/bar | 05:26 |
bddebian | Heya seth_k | 05:26 |
seth_k | hey bddebian | 05:26 |
seth_k | wanna take my next Organic Chem exam for me? | 05:27 |
Kyral | bddebian, it won't even install unless those things are there in the first place | 05:27 |
Kyral | Anyone know the license on Glaxium? The guy seems to have given it up almost a year ago | 05:28 |
bddebian | seth_k: Sure if you don't mind failing it :-) | 05:29 |
seth_k | bddebian, couldn't be any worse than I'm doing :D | 05:29 |
seth_k | teacher is a nut | 05:29 |
bddebian | Heh | 05:30 |
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Kyral | Someone else do this | 05:35 |
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Kyral | I'm gonna go work on Glaxium | 05:36 |
Kyral | If the guy stated he is done (and no longer working on it) what license does it fall under? | 05:37 |
Lathiat | Kyral: try google, check ti out, that or look in the /usr/share/docs/glaxium/copyright file | 05:37 |
Kyral | or I could try looking in the tarball first... | 05:38 |
Kyral | Ah, GPL | 05:39 |
Kyral | README to the rescue! | 05:39 |
Lathiat | well, the copyright file in the package will always have the info | 05:41 |
Kyral | and I feel like an idiot :P | 05:41 |
Lathiat | and sometimes finding th einfo in various tarballs is hard | 05:41 |
Kyral | Lathiat, its a sourceball | 05:41 |
Lathiat | hence using the debian file the maintainer did the hard work for you ;p | 05:41 |
Kyral | and the RPMs date to RH8 | 05:41 |
Kyral | I think its better to compile this one from source :P | 05:42 |
Lathiat | oh so theres nod eb package, isee | 05:43 |
Kyral | Its in Universe Candidates | 05:43 |
Lathiat | ok | 05:43 |
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Kyral | How convenient this thing uses AutoConf | 05:50 |
Kyral | that means I don't have to mess with the Makefiles right? | 05:50 |
pef | hello | 05:53 |
bddebian | Heya pef ;-) | 05:53 |
pef | can someone archive kvpnc on REVU ? already uploaded | 05:53 |
bddebian | Hmm, I wonder if I can do that | 05:54 |
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bddebian | siretart: ping? | 05:54 |
siretart | bddebian: you're lucky, man, just connected :) | 05:54 |
Kyral | Oh well, I'll package this later | 05:55 |
bddebian | :-) | 05:55 |
Kyral | I have a contest to win | 05:55 |
bddebian | siretart: Did you see pef's question? | 05:55 |
Kyral | dangit | 05:56 |
Kyral | I won't be able to get my GPG Key signed by any Ubuntu person until UbuntuBelowZero | 05:57 |
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siretart | ah, now I see it | 05:57 |
siretart | mom | 05:57 |
bddebian | mom? | 05:58 |
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Nafallo | bddebian: yea, you know... the one that got you in to this world. | 05:59 |
bddebian | Heh | 05:59 |
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siretart | just a moment | 06:02 |
Kyral | I need my GPG Key signed before I can upload to REVU right? | 06:02 |
siretart | Kyral: you should, but for revu, I accept also unsigned keys | 06:02 |
Kyral | Well I can get my friends who also have GPG to sign them | 06:02 |
Kyral | but no Ubuntites right now | 06:03 |
siretart | kvpnc is already archived, huh? | 06:03 |
siretart | Kyral: tell me your keyid | 06:03 |
Kyral | uuh, lemme snag it | 06:04 |
Kyral | I'm like doing 5 things at once | 06:04 |
siretart | same here | 06:04 |
Kyral | 0F1A6639 | 06:05 |
Kyral | Its on my Launchpad and on my Wiki too | 06:05 |
siretart | Kyral: done | 06:06 |
Kyral | so I just upload the pack to Revu when I get it done? | 06:07 |
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Kyral | dupload right? | 06:08 |
siretart | Kyral: you are free to use dupload, I prefer dput, though ;) | 06:09 |
Kyral | well I don't have either | 06:09 |
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ivoks | lol, spam of the week :) | 06:37 |
ivoks | from debiantux23 | 06:37 |
bddebian | Heya ivoks | 06:37 |
ivoks | hey bddebian | 06:38 |
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spayne | yo gang | 06:40 |
spayne | slomo: pinh | 06:41 |
ivoks | bddebian: like what? | 06:41 |
ivoks | bddebian: don't use debian's packages | 06:42 |
bddebian | ivoks: I'm not I was just trying to get ours to build and it doesn't either :-) | 06:42 |
ivoks | bddebian: use gcc-3.3 | 06:42 |
bddebian | Why? | 06:43 |
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ivoks | it doesn't compile with 3.4 from my exp. | 06:43 |
spayne | yo bddebian | 06:43 |
bddebian | Heya spayne | 06:43 |
ivoks | bddebian: i'm dropping openmosix this year | 06:44 |
ivoks | bddebian: transiting to openssi | 06:45 |
bddebian | ivoks: I know very little about it, I'm just trying to fix broken stuff :-) | 06:46 |
ivoks | bddebian: don't | 06:46 |
ivoks | bddebian: not in sarge | 06:46 |
ivoks | bddebian: it's too much broken | 06:46 |
ivoks | bddebian: i spent few weeks trying to get debians packages to work | 06:47 |
ivoks | bddebian: never succeeded.. upstream worked after 2 hours | 06:47 |
bddebian | ivoks: So upload it :-) | 06:48 |
ivoks | bddebian: no, i said... i give up on openmosix | 06:48 |
bddebian | OH hehe | 06:48 |
ivoks | bddebian: that project has to slow development | 06:49 |
ivoks | bddebian: i'm transiting to openssi | 06:49 |
bddebian | Does openssi provide Motif apis? | 06:49 |
ivoks | motif apis? | 06:49 |
ivoks | what does motif has to do with cluster? :) | 06:49 |
bddebian | Whoops, never mind, I'm confusing myself at this point ;-P | 06:49 |
bddebian | I was lookint at something else :-) | 06:49 |
ivoks | yay | 06:50 |
ivoks | !!! | 06:50 |
ivoks | we got green light for EU! :) | 06:51 |
spayne | EU? | 06:52 |
ivoks | european union | 06:52 |
ivoks | god bless austria! :) | 06:53 |
spayne | ivoks: in turkey? | 06:53 |
ivoks | spayne: croatia | 06:53 |
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dholbach | hi | 07:00 |
bddebian | Daniel!!! | 07:00 |
dholbach | hey barry! :) | 07:00 |
bddebian | dholbach: Can you check out Malone 2344 for me? | 07:00 |
dholbach | in a minute, yes | 07:01 |
bddebian | Coolio, thx | 07:01 |
spayne | anyone know if resapplet is in universe yet? | 07:04 |
dholbach | sudo apt-get update; apt-cache show resapplet should know | 07:04 |
dholbach | or http://packages.ubuntu.com | 07:04 |
dholbach | bddebian: looks good to me, but i'm not necessarily an authority | 07:07 |
bddebian | spayne: apt-cache madison resapplet :-) | 07:08 |
bddebian | dholbach: Well WTF?? ;-) | 07:08 |
spayne | madison? | 07:08 |
bddebian | Yep | 07:08 |
dholbach | does anyone know how to do a '' on the keyboard? | 07:10 |
dholbach | (with a compose key maybe)? | 07:10 |
jamessan|work | I usually just use Vim and then highlight/middle-click paste it to wherever I need it | 07:12 |
jamessan|work | never bothered figuring out how to do it with the keyboard | 07:13 |
dholbach | yeah, i pasted it too, but now i manage to do all the other crazy french letters, i'd like to know how to reproduce it on my own ;) | 07:13 |
dholbach | ... :) | 07:13 |
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siretart | hey dholbach! | 07:14 |
dholbach | hey siretart | 07:14 |
siretart | crimsun: around? | 07:14 |
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dholbach | so who reviews deskbar-applet? :-p | 07:17 |
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siretart | does anyone happen to know why crimsun uploaded wpasupplicant? | 07:21 |
dholbach | siretart: sorry, no idea - does the changelog entry say anything? | 07:23 |
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siretart | dholbach: it says "new upstream version". thats all | 07:24 |
dholbach | hrm | 07:25 |
siretart | so he updated breezy to 0.4.5, but I wanted to know why. | 07:25 |
dholbach | siretart: does ./NEWS say anything interesting? | 07:25 |
siretart | ther is no NEWS ;) | 07:26 |
siretart | I assume he had some reason to upgrade to 0.4.5 | 07:26 |
dholbach | yeah, crimsun surely had | 07:26 |
siretart | well, the new version 'works' for me :) | 07:32 |
dholbach | :) | 07:33 |
ivoks | want to see a nice picture of my dog? :) | 07:35 |
dholbach | yeah | 07:36 |
ivoks | http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/luna.jpg [3MB] | 07:36 |
dholbach | WOAH | 07:36 |
dholbach | do you want us to count all the spots on the dog? ;) | 07:36 |
Nafallo | lol | 07:37 |
ivoks | :)) | 07:37 |
spayne | dholbach: any packaging things i could do? | 07:37 |
ivoks | use the picture resize on your firefox :) | 07:37 |
dholbach | spayne: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates :) | 07:38 |
Nafallo | ivoks: dude! you're dog is scary! | 07:38 |
Nafallo | all black and white except the eyes... | 07:38 |
ivoks | :)) | 07:38 |
ivoks | gimp did that :) | 07:38 |
Nafallo | :-P | 07:39 |
spayne | this month, i have used 2,032.8 MBytes bandwidth :) | 07:39 |
Nafallo | ehm | 07:39 |
dholbach | ivoks: a nice dog you have :) | 07:39 |
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Nafallo | 2G? | 07:39 |
ivoks | dholbach: thanks :) | 07:39 |
spayne | in three days | 07:39 |
\sh | re | 07:39 |
\sh | hmm....thats nothing *g* | 07:39 |
Nafallo | ah, THIS month :-) | 07:40 |
ivoks | :) | 07:40 |
Nafallo | who else have an up-to-date breezy amd64 with the gnomefoot still on the toppanel? | 07:50 |
Nafallo | or on the menubar even... | 07:50 |
spayne | Nafallo: delete /usr/share/icons/hicolor/icon.cache | 07:51 |
spayne | and restart X | 07:51 |
spayne | jdub told me :) | 07:51 |
siretart | arg. I don't have the gnomefoot anymore, that is | 07:51 |
Nafallo | aha | 07:51 |
Nafallo | thanx spayne | 07:51 |
Nafallo | that's icon-theme.cache, right? | 07:52 |
spayne | yeh | 07:53 |
spayne | brb | 07:53 |
Nafallo | how nice... | 08:06 |
Nafallo | the foot is gone :-P | 08:06 |
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zyga | hello motus | 08:29 |
zyga | I'd like to upgrade a package in motu to learn a thing or two | 08:29 |
zyga | any developers willing to help me around | 08:29 |
zyga | I want to upgrade alexandria from 0.5.1 to 0.6.1 | 08:29 |
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zyga | I have my key and REVU is all open for me :) | 08:30 |
zyga | anyone :) ? | 08:30 |
dholbach | zyga: sure, go ahead... it's just that we're WAY past upstream version freeze - new version require a good justification | 08:31 |
dholbach | but nice if you're working on something that will make the world a better place | 08:31 |
zyga | dholbach: I want to learn a thing or two | 08:32 |
dholbach | yeah | 08:32 |
zyga | dholbach: and maybe put my package of gnu gadu at the same time | 08:32 |
dholbach | then go ahead, try it :) | 08:32 |
zyga | right now I've just pulled original source | 08:32 |
zyga | and debianized 0.5.1 | 08:32 |
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zyga | I'll play with debian/* and see what I can do | 08:33 |
dholbach | super | 08:33 |
zyga | dholbach: I should rename original source to *.orig.tar.gz | 08:33 |
zyga | right? | 08:33 |
dholbach | yes | 08:34 |
zyga | original filename is: alexandria-0.6.1.tar.gz so I guess that makes (read carefully) alexandria_0.6.1.orig.tar.gz | 08:34 |
zyga | I don't need .dsc or .changes.gz from 0.5.1 anymore since .dsc is auto generated and I've applied the changes I want - right? | 08:35 |
zyga | I can write a changelog entry in debian/changelog (manually) to indicate new upstream version | 08:36 |
zyga | for breezy, low urgency | 08:36 |
zyga | if anything is not correct feel free to stop me :) | 08:36 |
zyga | I have a handy macro for vim that makes the changelog info line with my mail and date | 08:37 |
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zyga | dholbach: so far so good? | 08:39 |
\sh | zyga: dch ? | 08:39 |
dholbach | \sh: you may want to use debian/watch and uupdate | 08:39 |
zyga | \sh: ?? | 08:39 |
zyga | dholbach: I don't know anything about debian/watch but there is one already | 08:39 |
dholbach | but i'm currently working on some other crack, so i hope that somebody in this place will help you out | 08:39 |
dholbach | cool | 08:40 |
\sh | zyga: export DEBNAME="<your name>" ; export DEBMAIL="<your email>" | 08:40 |
zyga | it seems to point to some location | 08:40 |
\sh | zyga: and then dch -i e.g. and you'll get your $EDITOR call including well formatted debian changelog ;) | 08:40 |
zyga | \sh: I've got EMAIL set, and name seems to get sensible default | 08:40 |
zyga | aaah :) | 08:40 |
zyga | neet | 08:40 |
zyga | dch checks for syntax errors, right? | 08:41 |
\sh | dholbach: I want to use what? debian/watch and uupdate? | 08:41 |
\sh | zyga: yeah as well | 08:41 |
dholbach | \sh: sorry, i meant zyga | 08:41 |
zyga | what does debian/watch do? | 08:41 |
\sh | and adds new entries...(dch -a) | 08:41 |
zyga | \sh: cool, thanks - a new thing already :) | 08:41 |
dholbach | sorry, \sh, zyga - i'm cracking on something else... i'm a bit confused | 08:41 |
\sh | it checks upstream sources...you enter a download url with some magic regexp and it checks if there is a new upstream version ;) | 08:41 |
\sh | dholbach: hehe :) | 08:41 |
\sh | dholbach: /me cracks right now on problems with the .de community | 08:42 |
zyga | \sh: nice, how to use it? how to check for new upstream version? | 08:42 |
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\sh | uuscan and uupdate | 08:42 |
zyga | \sh: which package provides them/ | 08:44 |
jamessan|work | zyga: devscripts | 08:44 |
zyga | jamessan|work: hmm uuscan is not among them | 08:45 |
zyga | ah | 08:45 |
zyga | uscan | 08:45 |
zyga | sigle 'u' | 08:45 |
zyga | single | 08:45 |
zyga | thanks | 08:46 |
bddebian | dholbach: Hey, according to the changelog you were the last one to upload xfonts-terminus.. | 08:46 |
dholbach | bddebian: is that so? | 08:46 |
zyga | cool :-) | 08:46 |
dholbach | it had a problem with build-depends, right? | 08:46 |
zyga | hmm okay I hit a wall now | 08:47 |
zyga | does anyone here speak ruby? :) | 08:47 |
zyga | /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/date/format.rb:598: [BUG] unknown node type 0 | 08:48 |
zyga | ruby 1.8.3 (2005-06-23) [i486-linux] | 08:48 |
bddebian | dholbach: Aye :-) | 08:48 |
dholbach | :) | 08:49 |
\sh | ok...going to bed...I'm tired after the afternoon with my son :) | 08:52 |
zyga | hmm | 08:52 |
zyga | \sh: wait :) | 08:52 |
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zyga | okay :) | 08:52 |
\sh | this is one language which I missed in my collection | 08:53 |
\sh | ok...cu tomorrow morning latest against 7 UTC :) | 08:53 |
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ryu | hi | 09:06 |
dholbach | hi ryu | 09:08 |
bddebian | dholbach: See, you don't love me either.. ;-P | 09:08 |
dholbach | bddebian: what did i do wrong THIS TIME? | 09:09 |
zyga | does anyone know who handles ruby here? | 09:09 |
bddebian | dholbach: You won't upload my xfonts-terminus :-) | 09:09 |
zyga | our ruby is probably broken | 09:09 |
dholbach | bddebian: did you ask for it anywhere? | 09:09 |
bddebian | dholbach: I am kidding btw :-) | 09:09 |
dholbach | ok | 09:09 |
dholbach | where is the debdiff? | 09:09 |
bddebian | dholbach: Posted on that bug | 09:09 |
dholbach | ah alright | 09:10 |
dholbach | it works for you? | 09:10 |
dholbach | you can use that font somewhere? | 09:10 |
bddebian | Of course :-) | 09:10 |
dholbach | rocking | 09:10 |
dholbach | will get it done | 09:10 |
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spayne | slomo: ping | 09:13 |
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zyga | okay | 09:19 |
zyga | debian has ruby 1.8.3-1 in unstable | 09:19 |
zyga | is it possible to sync that? :) | 09:19 |
siretart | wh0ps | 09:20 |
siretart | snes9x ftbfs on x86! | 09:20 |
siretart | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/s/snes9x/1.42-2ubuntu2/ | 09:20 |
zyga | who can sync packages from debian? | 09:22 |
siretart | we can request it from elmo | 09:22 |
siretart | I'm not familiar with ruby, why do we need that? | 09:22 |
zyga | siretart: I just want to confirm that it 1) fixes a bug 2) fixes security issues | 09:22 |
zyga | siretart: it's already there, eg universe | 09:23 |
bddebian | zyga: So pull it from Debian, build it and see if it fixes your problem :) | 09:23 |
siretart | zyga: oh. in that case, we should sync that version | 09:23 |
zyga | siretart: I decided to upgrade alexandria which is a ruby app to the latest version | 09:23 |
zyga | bddebian: I'm doing that right now :D | 09:23 |
zyga | siretart: but our ruby which is a strange mix of 1.8.2-9 and 1.8.3 is broken | 09:24 |
zyga | ruby people told me to upgrade and see (it works for them) | 09:24 |
siretart | zyga: hm. I don't know about ruby. I always hear it is a mess both in debian as in ubuntu.. | 09:26 |
zyga | siretart: I don't know much about it either but a friend of mine would like to use both ubuntu and alexandria so I wanted to help :) | 09:27 |
zyga | hmm ruby sure builds in a really strange way | 09:27 |
siretart | zyga: great! :) | 09:27 |
zyga | it seems like it's displaying brainfuck programs for the programer to keep him busy... | 09:28 |
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zyga | btw: is there any tutorial about chroot testing environment? | 09:30 |
zyga | testing ruby is okay but testing a glibc could suck a bit | 09:30 |
bddebian | Heh | 09:30 |
bddebian | zyga: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PBuilderHowto | 09:31 |
zyga | bddebian: this page does not exist ;] | 09:31 |
bddebian | It should tell you a match. It's something like that | 09:31 |
zyga | Pbui.... | 09:32 |
zyga | non capital 'p' | 09:32 |
zyga | sss... 'b' | 09:32 |
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siretart | hmm. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=322455 has a clue about snes9x | 09:37 |
siretart | better to get a installable package quick.. | 09:38 |
zyga | heh | 09:41 |
zyga | siretart: okay I need to debianize a ruby-zoom package now | 09:41 |
zyga | :-) | 09:42 |
zyga | easy upgrades, yeah ;] | 09:42 |
zyga | I wonder if this will all work | 09:44 |
zyga | ruby upgrade | 09:44 |
zyga | new package | 09:44 |
zyga | and new version of alexandria | 09:44 |
zyga | should new package follow debian way and create a bugreport that says that package is missing? | 09:47 |
siretart | no, we don't require/want that for now | 09:47 |
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zyga | siretart: should the package be named ruby-zoom0 or ruby-zoom1 | 09:52 |
zyga | it's a library | 09:52 |
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siretart | puh | 09:53 |
zyga | I'm reading the devel list, someone is already trying to build a package for breezy | 09:53 |
siretart | zyga: whats bad about ruby-zoom? | 09:53 |
zyga | siretart: nothing but dh_make created ruby-zoom1 | 09:54 |
siretart | hm | 09:54 |
zyga | siretart: maybe libruby-zoom | 09:58 |
zyga | or libzoom-ruby | 09:58 |
siretart | zyga: isn't there somewhere a ruby packaging policy? | 09:58 |
zyga | siretart: there is? :) | 09:58 |
siretart | there should be one | 09:59 |
siretart | http://pkg-ruby.alioth.debian.org/ruby-policy.html/index.html | 09:59 |
zyga | checking | 09:59 |
zyga | okay | 10:00 |
zyga | libzoom-rubyX.Y | 10:00 |
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zyga | hello orgra | 10:12 |
ajmitch | morning all | 10:14 |
zyga | could anyone help me a bit? | 10:15 |
zyga | I just ran dh_make and now I'm cleaning up debian/control | 10:15 |
zyga | what is that -BROKEN stuff? | 10:15 |
bddebian | ajmitch!!!!!!!!!!! | 10:17 |
ajmitch | bddebian: what?!? | 10:18 |
bddebian | Hi | 10:18 |
bddebian | :-) | 10:18 |
ajmitch | meh | 10:18 |
ajmitch | hello | 10:18 |
zyga | what should I do when source package does not follow debian naming policy/ | 10:18 |
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=== ajmitch still hasn't broken 100 bugs closed :P | ||
zyga | I've got .orig.tar.gz | 10:19 |
ajmitch | I should get past 1000 karma today though | 10:19 |
bddebian | ajmitch: Heh | 10:19 |
ajmitch | 977 at the moment, and closed at least 2 bugs since then | 10:19 |
zyga | come on you package masters :-) | 10:19 |
zyga | help me out | 10:19 |
ajmitch | zyga: you rename :P | 10:20 |
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zyga | ajmitch: rename the orig.tar.gz? | 10:20 |
zyga | and the directory it extracts? | 10:20 |
=== zyga reads the maintainers guide to the universe | ||
zyga | (heh) | 10:21 |
Nafallo | w00t! | 10:22 |
Nafallo | where is that document? :-) | 10:22 |
bddebian | ajmitch: I hate you ;-P | 10:22 |
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zyga | Nafallo: maint-guide | 10:23 |
Nafallo | that's debians. not MOTUs :-) | 10:24 |
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zyga | hehe | 10:27 |
zyga | : | 10:27 |
zyga | :) | 10:27 |
sebest | hi masters | 10:33 |
ajmitch | bddebian: I know you do | 10:34 |
sebest | hi had a question for you, about package like win32codecs, i know it's not legal to distribute them, but would it be legal to use a solution like the one for mssttcorefonts ? | 10:35 |
ajmitch | that is very dubious | 10:35 |
sebest | ajmitch why? | 10:36 |
ajmitch | since at least msttcorefonts are distributable in their original form | 10:36 |
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ajmitch | win32codecs is straight copyright violation | 10:36 |
ajmitch | ripping dlls off a windows box :) | 10:36 |
sebest | but it's legal to distribute the script? | 10:36 |
ajmitch | that's only a 'maybe' | 10:36 |
ryu | hi | 10:36 |
zyga | sebest: what would such a script do? | 10:37 |
zyga | sebest: ask the user to enter a legit copy of windows installation cd? | 10:37 |
sebest | zyga: download win32codecs and install it | 10:37 |
zyga | sebest: from where? | 10:37 |
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sebest | from where it's currenttly hosted | 10:37 |
sebest | i remenber a similar solution exist for decss | 10:38 |
zyga | that would still be illegal IMHO | 10:38 |
ajmitch | zyga: that's what I think | 10:38 |
zyga | similar to .torrrent trackers | 10:38 |
zyga | might vary from country/state/region to another | 10:38 |
sebest | trackers are legal, no??? | 10:38 |
ajmitch | writing a script wose sole purpose is to violate copyright isn't really too hot | 10:39 |
zyga | sebest: no | 10:39 |
zyga | sebest: some trackers are illegal in the US for example AFARI | 10:39 |
zyga | s/AFARI/AFAIR/ | 10:39 |
sebest | what's wrong with having a torrent tracker?? | 10:39 |
zyga | very fuzzy issue ;-) | 10:39 |
zyga | sebest: google for it, dcma, copryright and crap like that | 10:39 |
sebest | we use one at our office to distribute our one content | 10:39 |
zyga | generic tracker is okay but specific might be illegal in some random place on the northen hemisphere near canada ;] | 10:40 |
Nafallo | your own it not someone else :-) | 10:40 |
sebest | it's like saying that driving a car is illegal because you could kill someone :) | 10:40 |
ajmitch | sebest: that's different from distributing content that you don't have copyright to | 10:40 |
zyga | sebest: don't try to make me believe you - ask a lawyer | 10:40 |
sebest | as you said it depends upon country.. | 10:40 |
siretart | thats the biggest problem with this matter: nobody knows for sure whats right, and lawyers are expensive :( | 10:41 |
zyga | sebest: and as far as law is concerned - it might be illegal in some random place to drive a car for example if your are of specific gender | 10:41 |
sebest | and for sure , too comply with all country, it's impossible... | 10:41 |
zyga | no I'm not kidding | 10:41 |
ajmitch | most countries would frown on what you're suggesting, sebest | 10:41 |
sebest | yes like pakistan | 10:41 |
sebest | frown? | 10:41 |
sebest | what does it mean? | 10:41 |
zyga | so I'd say win32codecs that everyone who wants to view movies probably has anyway is illegal ;-) | 10:42 |
ajmitch | zyga: most likely | 10:42 |
zyga | To repress or repel by expressing displeasure or disapproval; | 10:42 |
zyga | to rebuke with a look; as, frown the impudent fellow into | 10:42 |
zyga | silence. | 10:42 |
siretart | hey, even here on amd64 I can watch movies. w32codecs are really overrated | 10:42 |
sebest | www.koreus.com :) | 10:42 |
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Nafallo | siretart++ | 10:43 |
zyga | siretart: yes and probably they are not used many times but then again there is that movie your better half wants to see | 10:43 |
zyga | ;-) | 10:43 |
zyga | I'm all for open formats you know :) | 10:43 |
siretart | then I still have a 32bit chroot *g* | 10:43 |
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zyga | ;-) | 10:43 |
zyga | hehe | 10:43 |
siretart | btw, openwrt rocks! | 10:44 |
siretart | ;) | 10:44 |
zyga | offtopic, the cheapes laptops around here come with turion (64bit) cpus and with some linux distro pre-installed :-D | 10:44 |
zyga | s/cheapes/cheapest/ | 10:44 |
Nafallo | if the better half would be better she would not use w32codecs. so I guess you meant your worse half :-). | 10:44 |
zyga | Nafallo: my better half did not hear that - you have been spared, you are likely to be eaten by a grue | 10:45 |
Nafallo | siretart: baah. you to :-P. | 10:45 |
Nafallo | hehe | 10:45 |
zyga | OTOH: I've got an adom-manager that can install/remove adom at will - I hope to debianize it one day | 10:45 |
zyga | it's 100% legal :) | 10:45 |
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zyga | awww | 10:48 |
zyga | from maint-guide: Once again, as a new maintainer you are discouraged from creating complicated packages, e.g., [snip] library packages, [snip] | 10:48 |
zyga | booo | 10:48 |
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siretart | zyga: there are many pitfalls one can trap into with library packages | 10:49 |
siretart | zyga: but I think ruby library package are less complicated than e.g. C++ libraries | 10:49 |
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zyga | siretart: it's a c+ruby package | 10:50 |
zyga | awww, damn... the library depends on another library | 10:50 |
zyga | I thought that libyaz is the thing I need but it seems that I really need libyaz-ruby | 10:51 |
zyga | this will be a long long ride | 10:51 |
siretart | zyga: thats the point you quoted from the maint-guide | 10:52 |
siretart | zyga: but you are surely welcome to have some fun trying it nevertheless ;) | 10:52 |
zyga | siretart: I don't want to bail out yet :) | 10:53 |
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siretart | zyga: thats the spirit MOTUs are made from :) | 10:54 |
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Kyral | Thats done. Time to get back to packaging! | 11:02 |
Kyral | I should be able to bang out this Glaxium package before 6 | 11:05 |
Kyral | is "games" a valid section? | 11:06 |
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zyga | siretart: ha, the second library already exists :) | 11:10 |
zyga | siretart: just under a different name | 11:10 |
zyga | siretart: hmm can you fix stuff in universe? | 11:11 |
ajmitch | zyga: that's what the MOTUs do ;) | 11:11 |
zyga | siretart: ruby-dev depends on ruby1.6-dev while the current stable version is ruby1.8-dev | 11:12 |
zyga | 1.6 is not around anymore even | 11:12 |
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ajmitch | you must have an old ruby-dev installed | 11:12 |
zyga | ajmitch: no | 11:12 |
zyga | hmm wait | 11:12 |
ajmitch | the package doesn't exist in breezy | 11:13 |
zyga | ajmitch: that's right | 11:13 |
zyga | Package ruby-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 11:13 |
zyga | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or | 11:13 |
zyga | is only available from another source | 11:13 |
zyga | However the following packages replace it: | 11:13 |
zyga | ruby1.6-dev | 11:13 |
zyga | E: Package ruby-dev has no installation candidate | 11:13 |
Kyral | hmm | 11:14 |
zyga | doesn't that look bad? | 11:14 |
Kyral | its looking for the command distclean | 11:14 |
Kyral | but I don't see it in the makefile | 11:14 |
zyga | Kyral: ignore it or add according to taste | 11:14 |
ajmitch | zyga: not really | 11:14 |
Kyral | or shorten it to clean | 11:14 |
zyga | Kyral: distclean is a slightly stronger clean that might require extra stuff to rebuild | 11:14 |
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zyga | Kyral: no - it's different from clean | 11:15 |
zyga | for example you might need to have yacc/flex to build something after dist-clean | 11:15 |
Kyral | The makefile.in specifies clean, not distclean | 11:15 |
zyga | Kyral: that's autocrap makefile.in? | 11:15 |
Kyral | Hey I'm not knocking it if it makes my life easier | 11:16 |
zyga | ajmitch: hmm what's the point of ruby-dev then/ | 11:16 |
Kyral | no MS jokes | 11:16 |
slomo | spayne: pong | 11:16 |
spayne | slomo: any news on ipod-sharp? | 11:16 |
Kyral | does dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot even make a deb? | 11:17 |
bigcx2 | hey everyone | 11:17 |
bddebian | Kyral: No | 11:17 |
slomo | spayne: wait a moment... ;) | 11:17 |
bddebian | Hello bigcx2 | 11:17 |
bigcx2 | where is the gpg key page on launchpad where i can upload my key | 11:17 |
bigcx2 | ? | 11:18 |
ajmitch | zyga: ruby-dev does not exist | 11:18 |
bigcx2 | Kyral: the -S makes source only | 11:18 |
zyga | ajmitch: but ruby does exist | 11:18 |
ajmitch | zyga: eys | 11:18 |
zyga | and it depends on ruby1.8 | 11:19 |
slomo | spayne: no new banshee upstream... so... | 11:19 |
slomo | spayne: we have to wait :( | 11:19 |
zyga | isn't that consistency to have -dev depend on 1.8-dev? | 11:19 |
ajmitch | zyga: possibly | 11:20 |
bigcx2 | this is the step i'm trying to do off of the wiki: | 11:20 |
bigcx2 | Visit the GPG Keys page once logged into launchpad. Paste your key fingerprint into the textbox: | 11:20 |
bigcx2 | but it doesn't have a link to that page and i can't find it | 11:20 |
zyga | bigcx2: login to your launchpad page | 11:21 |
slomo | doko: i don't know if it's good enough... but swt-gtk ftbfs for amd64 so i looked for a fix | 11:21 |
ajmitch | bigcx2: uploaded zope-ldap with a few more changes - it was chmj's last 'fix' that gave me the dh_installzope error | 11:21 |
zyga | bigcx2: click on your name in the upper right corner | 11:21 |
bigcx2 | ahhh | 11:21 |
bigcx2 | thanks zyga | 11:21 |
zyga | bigcx2: click 'edit gpg keys' in the menu on the right side | 11:21 |
bigcx2 | ajmitch: cool does that mean i get more karma points ;-P | 11:22 |
dholbach | brb | 11:22 |
ajmitch | bigcx2: sadly no :) | 11:22 |
slomo | spayne: why do you ask? | 11:22 |
bigcx2 | booo | 11:22 |
bigcx2 | lol | 11:22 |
spayne | slomo: dopi | 11:22 |
ajmitch | bigcx2: and I had to drop half your patch :) | 11:22 |
slomo | spayne: did it ship it's own entagged now? | 11:22 |
bigcx2 | as long as it works | 11:23 |
ajmitch | only the .dzproduct files remained | 11:23 |
spayne | slomo: no | 11:23 |
bigcx2 | ah | 11:23 |
bigcx2 | brb | 11:23 |
slomo | spayne: so what? ;) | 11:23 |
spayne | slomo: it needs a newer ipod-sharp | 11:24 |
slomo | spayne: yes... and needs entagged which we don't want in universe until it matured | 11:24 |
Kyral | STAB! | 11:26 |
Kyral | I thought this would be easy but this thing refused to install into the debian dir | 11:26 |
slomo | spayne: did you already package everything? | 11:30 |
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spayne | no :) | 11:30 |
ajmitch | wb dholbach | 11:31 |
dholbach | thanks ajmitch :) | 11:31 |
ajmitch | how are you? :) | 11:31 |
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dholbach | oh yes | 11:32 |
dholbach | the motu report | 11:32 |
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Kyral | Why can't I catch something EASY to package.. | 11:32 |
dholbach | didn't write a line | 11:32 |
ajmitch | dholbach: I've added 1 whole line | 11:32 |
slomo | Kyral: what do you want to package? | 11:32 |
Kyral | that Glaxium, btu I know nothing about AutoConf :P | 11:33 |
Kyral | it won't behave! | 11:33 |
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ajmitch | bddebian: gee thanks | 11:34 |
ajmitch | you're great to be around, really | 11:34 |
bddebian | :-) | 11:34 |
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Kyral | With my own thing it was a streightforward makefile | 11:34 |
Kyral | but how do I get AutoConf and AutoMake to behave | 11:35 |
slomo | Kyral: hmm... does upstream ship configure, etc...? or is autofoo to be called in rules? | 11:36 |
Kyral | its no DebPack | 11:36 |
Kyral | its a sourceball | 11:36 |
slomo | yes... but does it have a configure? | 11:37 |
Kyral | yah | 11:37 |
slomo | ok, where's the problem? | 11:37 |
Kyral | Yanno how its NOT supposed to build into the system when you do a dpkg-buildpackage? | 11:37 |
Kyral | ie, stay confined to the working dir? | 11:38 |
bddebian | Gotta head home, later gang | 11:38 |
slomo | Kyral: make PREFIX=$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp/usr install | 11:39 |
slomo | or something similar | 11:39 |
slomo | (if i understood your problem) | 11:39 |
Kyral | where do I put that? | 11:39 |
slomo | do you use cdbs? | 11:39 |
Kyral | no | 11:40 |
slomo | then you have a make install call somewhere in debian/rules | 11:40 |
slomo | how does it look like? | 11:40 |
Kyral | I dunno I wiped it in fustration | 11:40 |
Kyral | and I am hungry | 11:40 |
Kyral | Long day | 11:40 |
slomo | hmm | 11:40 |
Kyral | Maybe someone can show me how to use CDBS after dinner | 11:41 |
slomo | Kyral: when it uses autofoo just read the cdbs docs... there's a good example | 11:41 |
Kyral | ty. I'm new at this (Self Proclaimed MOTU In Training) | 11:42 |
slomo | ok, when you're fast enought with eating i'll help you... otherwise i'm already sleeping :P | 11:42 |
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Nafallo | slomo: do you know how many users \sh's server can handle? I tell everyone using jabber.org to register there for a more reliable service ;-) | 11:45 |
slomo | Nafallo: oh no... you will kill the icq transport ;) | 11:46 |
Nafallo | hehehe | 11:46 |
siretart | my whole family is now on sh's server ;) | 11:52 |
Nafallo | :-) | 11:52 |
Nafallo | half of #ubuntu.se to :-P | 11:52 |
slomo | omg | 11:53 |
Nafallo | and all MOTUs? ;-) | 11:53 |
ajmitch | not me ;) | 11:53 |
siretart | hehe | 11:53 |
Nafallo | ajmitch: that's why I only see you as a questionmark then :-P | 11:53 |
slomo | someone want to tell me which language this is? "datatype coord = pair of (int*int);" | 11:53 |
siretart | gn8 folks! | 11:55 |
slomo | maybe sml? | 11:55 |
Nafallo | anyway. \sh might have to build a cluster some day. but who cares? ;-) | 11:55 |
slomo | gn8 siretart | 11:55 |
dholbach | bye siretart | 11:55 |
Nafallo | gnight siretart :-) | 11:55 |
slomo | hm, should be sml... at least mosml accepts it... | 11:56 |
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