=== tvelocity [n=tony@ipa62.2.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] bmonty, yes the program will have to be new-version-ubuntu1 and you merge upstream and ubuntu changes [12:25] janimo: thanks, I already uploaded it to REVU === herzi [n=herzi@c172171.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487C146.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-109-11-235.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] good night === thierry_ [n=thierry@modemcable140.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:44] KICK ASS [01:45] eh [01:46] I fixed droidbattles finally :) [01:47] good one [01:47] nice === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-075-013.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sebest [n=chatzill@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] anyone using gnome-power-manager ? [01:55] sebest: yes [01:55] bmonty: you don't have a crash when your battery is at 5% ? [01:56] sebest: no [01:56] for me it crashes, i even have a backtrace of it [01:58] sebest: you should open a bug on it [02:00] any idea why I have all the python gtk packages installed, but 'import gtk' fails? [02:00] bmonty: i'll investigate it a bit more [02:00] Trashcan, you only need pygtk [02:01] i have that [02:01] python-gtk2 [02:01] python-gtk2 is already the newest version. [02:02] do you have /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0 ? [02:02] yup [02:03] and ../pygtk.py ? [02:03] yeh [02:03] does "import pygtk" works? [02:04] yessir [02:04] is it python 2.4 ? [02:05] yes [02:06] hang on [02:06] try this: [02:06] import pygtk [02:06] print pygtk._get-available_versions() [02:06] oups [02:06] LaserJock: Your ghemical and mopac stuff just came through [02:07] print pygtk._get_available_versions() [02:07] {'2.0': '/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0', '1.2': '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-1.2'} [02:07] it's something else causing hte problem [02:08] no do this: [02:08] pygtk.require('2.0') [02:08] and try importing gtk: import gtk [02:09] btw why do you have gtk-2.0 in /usr/local ??????? [02:09] that's where it installed to :\ [02:09] http://trashes.pastebin.com/381157 [02:09] you compiled it from source? [02:09] nope [02:09] synaptic [02:09] so rm -rf it [02:10] synaptic never install stuff in /usr/local afaik [02:10] Trashcan: our packages install the stuff into /usr [02:10] bddebian: great news, so when would it be in the repo? [02:10] :\ [02:10] i never compiled [02:10] i never even downloaded it [02:10] heh [02:10] rm -rf /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0 [02:10] k [02:10] is it possible it came with something else I compiled? [02:10] LaserJock: Hard to say since libghemical and mopac7 are NEW. [02:11] deleted [02:11] retry the get_avail ... [02:11] ok, good night everybody :) [02:11] night slomo [02:11] {'2.0': '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0', '1.2': '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-1.2'} [02:11] night slomo [02:12] Trachcan, it looks better now [02:12] it works fine now [02:12] :) [02:12] ;) [02:12] thanks! [02:12] u'r welcome ;) [02:13] I'm a windows dev, so I've never touched this gtk stuff :) [02:13] I've never touched python, at that [02:13] i'm also new to python [02:13] the more i use it, the more i like it :) [02:13] same :D [02:14] bed time for me, bye Trashcan [02:14] night === tambaqui [n=patricia@200-208-50-168-mns.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU [02:24] afternoon [02:25] hey ajmitch [02:26] afternoon? [02:26] bddebian: you let unfixed bugs creep up to 500 again! [02:26] I just had to close one to compensate [02:26] ok, I'm sorry in Brasil is night [02:27] tambaqui: that's nice, but it's afternoon where I am :) [02:27] ok :) [02:28] ajmitch: Aye sorry. :'-( I have sucked today :'-( [02:28] bddebian: at least you fixed droidbattles [02:29] it's monday here, so I can't fix many [02:30] I've been watching bddebian all day and he has been slacking! [02:30] Aye :-( [02:32] bddebian: well how are you going to get 1337 karma if you don't fix bugs? ;) [02:32] lol [02:33] ajmitch: No shix :-( === ajmitch write up bddebian in the MOTU report [02:37] pfft === Kyral thinks to himself *Do I really wanna become a MOTU after watchin' these guys?* :P [02:40] Heh [02:40] ajmitch: Better to put in bmonty :-) [02:40] put in that I'll never be an MOTU cause I can't get to the technical board meetings [02:41] oh I shoudl put in both of you [02:41] bmonty: :( === Kyral sighs [02:41] At least you guys have a sense of humor [02:42] we do? ;) [02:42] Kyral: ajmitch doesn't ;-P [02:42] I was going to take Tuesday as a half day to get the to the meeting, my boss was good with it, but then scheduled me for an all day class on that day! === Kyral bounces around the room [02:42] bmonty: So just quit. ;-P [02:42] Indeed Indeed! For in this life to be serious all the time is quite a waste indeed! [02:42] bddebian: quitting in not an option for me :) [02:43] I'll take his spot [02:43] bmonty: Yeah me either but it sounds good sometimes doesn't it? :-) [02:43] bddebian: you're right, I don't have a sense of humour === nybble [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [02:44] Oh well, I'm just sitting around to learn. But right now Love Hina calls [02:44] wtf is "Love Hina"?? [02:44] Kyral: learn away :) you want to help fix bugs? [02:44] Anime :D [02:44] ...or maybe I don't want to know [02:45] ajmitch, I've already helped out in #ubuntu-desktop [02:45] yes, I saw you were there [02:45] But tonight I need to relax 'cause tomarrow I gotta work my butt off. Big contest starting [02:48] bddebian: did you use that -D with the compile options for xmkmf? [02:49] bmonty: Aye [02:49] no dice? [02:49] ah, xmkmf [02:49] It seems to get re-assigned again by the X11.rules [02:49] /etc/X11/config/cf/X11.rules:41: warning: "XBinDir" redefined [02:49] ajmitch: You know it? [02:49] grep the source for it and delete the lines :) [02:50] bmonty: I personally think our xmkmf package is b0rked but I ain't touching that one :-) [02:50] I wouldn't either [02:50] bddebian: I just know that you need to sacrifice a goat to the spirits of X to get it to work [02:51] ajmitch: That seems to be the general response/feeling :-) [02:53] where is a good reference on debconf's config file? === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-155-1914.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:53] Well that was unpleasent [02:53] bmonty: Did you say you were already looking at libmetakit? [02:53] bddebian: I don't think so [02:55] OK [02:55] I'm looking at msttcorefonts right now === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] Heya crimsun [02:56] Gotta run for bit. bbl [02:56] hey bddebian === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-109-11-235.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === slomo_ [n=slomo@p5487FA5F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] bbl [03:05] bddebian: check out the new xmkmf package === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=markuman@p509270D2.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dloda [n=dan@adsl-69-107-51-160.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-066-058.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AstralJava [n=jaska@83.102.38.17] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:45] ajmitch: Got another 1.. ;-P [04:49] yay === ajmitch is at work, can hardly spend much time bug fixing :P === ajmitch should just give up on nit [04:50] s/nit/it/ [04:50] mwuhahaha === bigcx2 [n=bigcx2@157.182.194.245] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Unfrgive1 [n=ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian looks at pornview bug just for fun [05:16] sure [05:19] Heh [05:19] Maybe I'll rename it NAMBLAview ;-P [05:19] hey guys [05:20] Hello bigcx2 [05:20] bddebian: suits you :) [05:20] how long does it usually take to get approved as a ubuntu member? [05:20] hello bigcx2 [05:20] bigcx2: it depends on what work you've done [05:20] since they look for contributions over a period of time [05:21] ahh so they consistently check out your wiki page, etc until they feel you've contributed enough? [05:22] no, that would be too much work :) [05:22] lol i see [05:22] you turn up at community council meeting [05:22] ajmitch: :-) [05:22] and it gets reviewed there [05:22] and people speaj up for you saying how they'v worked with you, your contibutions, etc === tambaqui [n=patricia@200-208-50-168-mns.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU [05:22] s/speaj/speak/ [05:23] oh ok === bddebian is still amazed that he got in :-) [05:23] bddebian: why? [05:23] i haven't exactly worked with anybody on a project yet but i just finished writing some documentation and fixing a broken package... [05:24] ajmitch: From my lack of contributions. ;-P [05:24] bddebian: what did you do to get in initially? [05:24] bigcx2: I just tried to help with fixing packages. [05:24] bddebian: sure, you've done *nothing*.. right.. [05:24] ajmitch: Right ;-P [05:25] bigcx2: And made some wiki pages, etc [05:25] they were desperate for people when they let me in :P [05:25] alright well @ least i'm on the right path [05:25] lol [05:25] they'd take anyone who was barely warm [05:25] ajmitch: Oh OK Mr. DD [05:25] haha [05:26] DD? [05:26] bddebian: I wasn't then [05:26] bigcx2: Debian Developer [05:26] Debian Developer [05:26] duh [05:26] lol [05:27] that's pretty sweet [05:27] :) [05:28] bigcx2: Yeah, ajmitch is a stud :) === ajmitch sighs [05:28] my main contribution is lurking on IRC [05:29] so can anybody tell me why ubuntu and debian don't just merge together and make one unstoppable linux beast [05:30] because they have different goals, and trying to make debian fit a 6 month release cycle would be painful? [05:30] Different philosphies [05:30] philosophies even [05:31] i guessed it had somethin to do with releases [05:31] what's the difference in philosophy? [05:32] the way administration is handled? [05:32] debian is the 'universal OS', for many architectures & a huge number of supported packages [05:32] which makes it great to make derivatives from [05:33] From an outsider perspective I think Ubuntu tends to be more desktop oriented where Debian not so much so === nybble [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] yea i can see that [05:33] i guess as long as changes made in ubuntu (i.e. bugs, etc) can be easily pushed back into debian and vice versa there isn't a problem === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] do you guys think that's the case as it is now? [05:34] that's what we aim to do [05:34] and it's working somewhat [05:34] but there are people involved, so things don't always run smooth :) [05:34] hey jsgotangco [05:35] i hear ya [05:35] hi [05:36] hmm im having serious slowdown over here [05:36] so am I === ajmitch running windows :P [05:36] heh [05:37] oh wait a sec [05:37] ajmitch: you're the guy that's taking care of my zope-ldap bug report on malone [05:38] just got the connection there [05:39] oh, that's you :) [05:39] you have the package for me to look at? :) === ajmitch has hardly seen chmj around [05:39] yea it's on my homepage but i think our server might be pissed right now :) hold on [05:40] the way I was using dh_installzope, it complained [05:40] Are there are Universe Candidates I can take a shot at? [05:40] i couldn't do it in one file [05:41] Kyral: sure, pick one on the wiki page, check that it's not already in universe or on revu.tauware.de [05:41] bigcx2: it's not meant to be done in one file, I think === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-69-220.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] right, but in the current version it is [05:41] :) [05:42] my wepage is kinda bein squirrely right now [05:42] s/wepage/webpage [05:42] how else can i get it to ya [05:42] hmm [05:42] I'm gonna tackle ABC [05:44] bigcx2: email a debdiff to me [05:44] bigcx2: if you changed it, and changed debian/changelog [05:44] then you can dpkg-buildpackage -S [05:44] to get a new .dsc file [05:44] *sigh* No one wants to fix the broken stuff [05:44] and debdiff oldversion.dsc newversion.dsc [05:44] bddebian: that's what you were hired for [05:45] alright [05:45] Heh [05:45] brb [05:45] Well I haven't seen my paycheck yet.. ;-P [05:46] bddebian: we pay with with our love & respect ;) [05:46] So if I get this packaged I just send it to one of you guys? [05:46] Kyral: ideally you'd upload it to revu.tauware.de [05:46] Kyral: No, you need to request an account on revu [05:46] I'm not a MOTU [05:46] just a MOTU wannabe :P [05:46] that's what it's there for [05:46] ajmitch: Then I'm definetly underpaid.. ;-P [05:46] so non-MOTUs can upload stuff [05:46] and we check it [05:47] bddebian: ok, we really pay you in abuse ;) [05:47] oh wait...I should make a Hoary Chroot for this.. [05:47] why hoary? === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.246.97.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] 'cause I'm in Breezy :P [05:47] so? [05:47] good point! [05:47] we always develop packages for the current development release [05:48] Here goes! [05:48] ajmitch: Oh is that what we are supposed to be doing?? :-) === Kyral lets his hand shine and activates the dh_make === ajmitch watches the world cry out at the use of dh_make [05:49] bddebian: apparantly [05:49] its the only way I know how right now :P [05:51] I'm just biased :) [05:51] hold on, there is no Makefile....is that gonna be a problem? [05:52] Anyway Showering calls [05:58] ajmitch: what email should is send it to [05:58] i* [06:01] ajmitch@ubuntu.com will be fine [06:02] alright, sent it [06:04] good night everyone [06:04] night [06:04] night [06:04] Gnight bmonty [06:06] I think I'll call it a night too. Later folks === bigcx2 thinks hard about sleep === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:10] bigcx2: looks very similar to what I did :) [06:11] except I was getting: [06:11] dh_installzope python/Products/ZLDAPMethods [06:11] dh_installzope: unable to handle directories and multiple dzproduct/dzextension files [06:11] hm [06:11] i know mine worked [06:12] i put it in our local repository [06:12] and tested it [06:12] i don't remember getting any errors [06:13] it will be nice when i can just upload my stuff into universe [06:13] :) [06:13] it can take a little while [06:15] ajmitch: what all did you put into those two files [06:15] aha [06:15] + zope-ldap (1.1.0-3ubuntu2) hoary; urgency=low [06:15] we build for breezy [06:16] a few patch hunks were rejected [06:16] whoops, didn't think about that one [06:16] hold on a sec [06:16] I can fix that up [06:16] since debian/control rejected as well for some reason [06:18] can you tell that from the debdiff [06:18] i've never had to use that before [06:18] not off hand [06:18] but I'm still at work :) [06:19] so I'll fix it up when I go home in a few minutes === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:19] alright cool [06:19] hmm [06:19] how would I package a bunch of py files? === bigcx2 is going to hit the sack [06:20] night [06:20] bigcx2: night :) [06:20] Kyral: does it use distutils? [06:20] wazzat> [06:21] is there a setup.py there? [06:22] a setupabc.py [06:22] right, so probably not [06:22] so you'll have to write most of the installation or hack setupabc.py :) === Kyral falls down [06:23] and I know nothing about Python [06:23] but what is DistUtils? [06:23] you know nothing about python, but you want to package this? [06:23] I didn't know it was in Python until I unpacked it [06:24] \sh! :) [06:25] <\sh> moins [06:25] <\sh> gnarf [06:25] <\sh> doko_: did u requested a sync of rrdcollect? [06:28] <\sh> doko_: because it is like this, please check the next time the buildds, if the source compiles :( [06:29] Ack! Time for an ugly hack! === doko__ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-071-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:33] bbiab, time to walk home [06:36] well this is interesting [06:39] anyone ever hear of scons? [06:44] make replacement? [06:44] yes [06:45] yah [06:46] this vDrift uses it [06:46] <\sh> and sometimes a real buildd beast [06:46] I wonder if dh_make is gonna freak out.. [06:46] <\sh> what has dh_make to do with it? [06:46] Its the only way I know how to make packages right now [06:47] <\sh> it won't even recognize scons ;) so u have to deal with it in debian/rules itself [06:48] ah === Kyral activates Emacs [06:50] well one hurdle is outta the way, thing compiles and runs by itself nicely [07:01] I'll finish this tomarrow [07:05] Shouldn't be hard IF the changes I made in Rules hold.. [07:11] <\sh> hmmm..why don't we have the lastfm player in universe? [07:13] yay, new memory card for camera, I can take plenty of UBZ photos now ;) [07:13] <\sh> ajmitch: bah..I need a new camera first ;) [07:16] anyone en route to UBZ that passes through New Mexico is welcome at my place [07:17] flying through SF & vancouver, sorry :) [07:17] :) [07:17] Yeah, it's not a likely stop for many here :) [07:17] \sh: I picked up my tickets today from the travel agent, too ;) === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:19] sigh, I still need more karma :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:28] ajmitch, what is the flight number out of vancouver? [07:29] umm [07:29] let me check [07:30] AC182 [07:31] <\sh> woo...the fog [07:31] ajmitch, you are flying later in the day than me [07:31] Burgundavia: or earlier === Burgundavia gets to be at the airport for a 6am flight, the joys of flying east [07:31] I get into Montreal at 7:11AM on the 29th [07:31] ajmitch, AC flight numbers are linear [07:31] ouch [07:32] when do you arrive? [07:32] <\sh> ajmitch: what? so prepare some beer for siretart and me we're joining you around 17:00 montreal time ;) [07:32] \sh: I think we're having a little celebration on the 29th anyway ;) [07:33] <\sh> ajmitch: hehe...drinking the jetlag away ;) [07:33] ajmitch, hmm, odd, 3:40 pm of me [07:33] haha [07:33] jetlag+alcohol would be harsh [07:33] <\sh> ajmitch: well...I'm starting with this drinking party around 8am UTC ;) [07:34] :) [07:35] <\sh> ajmitch: well...for us it's not a problem...starting 14:00 UTC+2 -> arrival in montreal: 16:00 montreal time [07:35] ah [07:35] <\sh> so actually a 2 hours flight *sigh* [07:35] heh [07:35] I go the other way [07:36] leave NZ on the 28th, at 8:20pm [07:36] arrive in SF on the 28th, at 12:20 :) [07:36] so I go back in time [07:37] going home, I have a flight that leaves the US on the 15th & arrives in auckland on the 17th [07:38] <\sh> wow... === ajmitch might need to drink a few to get over that one ;) [07:39] it took me 3 days to get home from mataro [07:39] I had two overnight stays, one in London and one in Vancouver [07:39] I made sure I don't have any overnight stays [07:39] I do have 8 hours to kill in LAX though :( [07:39] couldn't avoid it [07:40] nothing left spain early enough to get a westbound flight [07:40] as the last one leaves around 3 pm [07:40] <\sh> well...for us it's quite good... [07:41] <\sh> leaving cologne at 10:54 .de time, arriving 11:45 .de time in frankfurt, leaving 2pm .de time frankfurt so only 2 1/4 hours to kill...but I think there will be some other ubuntu guys to meet up with and have a drink [07:41] btw can people fill in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReportDraft so that dholbach doesn't have to do it all, please? :) === nybble [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:50] <\sh> hmmm.... [07:50] <\sh> I need to test a new daily iso [07:50] for your network driver? [07:50] <\sh> yepp [07:54] <\sh> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16785 <- nice one I figured out [07:56] oh, that one :) === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-22-254-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless_ [n=robertc@dsl-1.27.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ormandj [n=ormandj@hawaii.orblivion.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:08] is there any reason postfix-mysql is linked to libmysql10 instead of 12 like every other mysql depending program? === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:08] or is that something i should submit a bug report on? === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [08:09] file bug [08:09] ajmitch, hi :) nice to see you again, how are you today? [08:09] and ok, will do. [08:10] I'm good, how are you? [08:10] well, i spent the last week working on LDAP as a directory server for all of the server-side apps, and it's just so backwards it's retarded, so i'm going to deploy mysql for that purpose instead [08:10] so was bad, but now good [08:11] when the only source of good documentation is RFCs, something is wrong. ;) [08:11] especially when things don't follow the RFCs properly :) [08:11] yes, which is what i ran into, and why i've been tearing my hair out, lol [08:12] i'll just cluster a bunch of mysql servers to effectively do the same thing as replication in LDAP and be done with it [08:13] now if only ubuntu.com would let me login :P [08:13] :) [08:13] how's life treating you ajmitch? [08:13] fairly well, finished work for the day [08:14] good good, you're a kiwi i see, like it there? i only visited once so i'm a bit curious :) [08:14] yeah, I am, it's quite good [08:14] when were you in NZ? [08:15] btw what's the time there now? I'm curious to see what TZ difference there is [08:15] i was there about 2 years ago, in march. (2003) [08:15] it's 2015 here [08:15] nice, did you visit dunedin? [08:15] ok, 1915 here [08:15] i'm horrible with names, anything i should remember if i did? [08:16] dunedin is down south [08:16] if you visited the south island :) [08:16] na, i don't believe i did [08:16] that's a shame [08:16] that's the nice part? [08:16] it's the nicest part :) [08:16] hehe [08:17] well, i leave the country once a month or so, i'll put it on my list. you suggest dunedin? [08:17] is the south island middle earth? =) [08:17]