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Seveasread the dpkg manpage for options12:00
ompaulHatchLing, well 5.04 should have been mentioned for that12:00
stpereilba7r, I have this hardware12:00
MadpilotPPC!tell Stricklin about fonts12:00
ilba7r!graphic cards12:00
ubotuilba7r: Are you on ritalin?12:00
Seveasilba7r, please don't experiment with the bot in the channel12:00
HatchLingompaul: Alright, I'll give that a shot.  Thanks.12:00
stpereilba7r, I did get it working12:00
ilba7rseveas i am not experimenting i am trying to get a location of webpage for hardware support12:00
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ompaulHatchLing, as a live CD is all you want I would try 5.10 also12:01
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Seveasilba7r, wiki.ubunut.com/HardwareSupport12:01
ilba7rthanx stpere so is it working fine with ubuntu am in a process of buying new laptop and wanted to know how supported this card is12:01
ilba7rthanx seveas12:01
kbrookswhat is breezy's version number? oh yeah12:01
kbrooks5.1012:01
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HatchLingompaul: I want the live CD just for testing purposes; if it works out, I'll install to the HD.12:02
stpereilba7r, you will get a blank screen by default12:02
BelutzSeveas, could you help me with this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2719 ?12:02
theretherSeveas, i dont know if i mess with sound server....12:02
stpereilba7r, but it's quite easy to install the right driver12:02
ompaulHatchLing, if it is your intention to install have a look at them all 5.10 will be stable on the 13th of Oct12:02
helloyowhat has happened to the w32codecs packages? its dissappeared from ubp extras12:02
Belutz!+w32codecs12:02
uboturumour has it, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439912:02
dooglusmy mouse arrow has got stuck in the shape of a document, and the keyboard has stopped responding.  is there anything I can do other than restarting X?12:02
ilba7rok thanx stpere12:02
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Belutzhelloyo, go to what ubotu just told12:03
helloyoBelutz, thankyou!12:03
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ilba7rSeveas i got webpage not found for the link you gave me12:03
ilba7rtanx all though will continue searching12:03
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Cashelis there any reason I can remove the running kernel image if I've got a new one ready for reboot? apt-get is crying about it....12:03
DeVeRaShi12:03
Cashels/can/cant/12:03
DeVeRaSwhere does apache2 has the documentroot directive?12:04
dooglusalt-f2 gives me a command line window, but then I can't type any commands there12:04
auraxanyone got proftpd up and running i got some permissions and root directory issue12:04
auraxi want each of my users to have different root directory12:05
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dooglus"pkill java" fixed it.  odd.12:05
theretherSeveas, appears one error saying that could not open resource for writing...in mplayer when i play a song12:05
jackconstantinehey, got a weird gcc issue; lots of snips to go with it, so PM me if you think you can help?  Thanks a bunch12:05
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oneifreakaurax: http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/doc/contrib/ProFTPD-mini-HOWTO-Chroot.html12:06
DeVeRaSi don't find this possible. Apache2 sents the information to /var/www/html but i don't see it anywhere in the conf file... where is this done in apache?12:06
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LasseLwhen I ask ubuntu to shutdown it reboots instead, any hints?12:06
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concept10LasseL, what command do you use? or from gui?12:07
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LasseLconcept10, gui12:07
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brosioanyone could send to me a work cups.conf for hp ?12:08
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Trashcanwhere is that located?12:08
Trashcanexactly12:08
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qzertyLasseL: Your motherboard might not properly support ASPCI or APM12:08
Trashcannm- seem's i dont have it12:08
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Trashcanseems*12:08
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Stricklin!tell Stricklin about fonts12:09
qzertyerr ACPI12:09
LasseLqzerty, it is a year old, but it's a cheap as rock board, so you might be right12:09
auraxerr any other good ftpd ?12:09
auraxthis proftpd makes me sad12:09
DeVeRaSWHERE IS THE DOCUMENTROOT DIRECTIVE?12:09
auraxgood & simple12:09
qzertyLasseL: Moreover, linux might not support your motherboard12:09
DeVeRaSsorry caps....12:09
StricklinAn encrypted page?!?12:09
SeveasDeVeRaS, /etc/apache2/*12:09
qzertyDeVeRaS: Apache 1 or 2?12:10
DeVeRaS212:10
Broqi just recieved my copy of ubuntu 5.04 but i wont install on my pc12:10
qzertyDeVeRaS: apache2.conf12:10
DeVeRaSnotthere12:10
LasseLqzerty, should ASPCI and APM both be enabled in the bios for best results?12:10
DeVeRaSit's not there...12:10
qzertyDeVeRaS: then you screwed something up.12:10
brosio where i could set admin pass for cups ?12:10
DeVeRaScan be12:10
DeVeRaSi never moved it12:10
Broqnic-firmware-6.2.10-5-386-di fail to unpack12:11
DeVeRaSdo you have it on yours?12:11
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DeVeRaSqzerty do you have it on yours?12:11
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Broqcan it be fixed?12:11
qzertyDeVeRaS: If your looking for it you will have to check your virtual host files12:11
qzertyDeVeRaS: Or you can add one and disable virtual hosts12:12
qzerty check sites-available/default12:12
Seveasbrosio, why do you wnat the web interface when there is a nice GUI?12:12
DeVeRaSqzerty virtual hosts?12:12
pluffsyhmm are there some system used for short cuts in the terminal? like some apps use c-C fr quit and c-Z for lite something that seems like force quit. but for example man only seems to quit on c-Z.12:12
Broqhelp pls12:12
Seveaspluffsy, c-Z is suspend, not quit12:13
Seveasman quits with q12:13
DeVeRaSqzerty and that is on what file?12:13
qzertyCtrl+c sends sigint, ctrl+z suspends12:13
qzertyI just told you /etc/apache2/sites-available/default12:13
brosioSeveas, i can't login12:13
pluffsySeveas, what does suspend really mean?12:14
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qzertyit means stop process, and detach it from tty12:14
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kbrooksHow do I send color to a printer with lpr?12:15
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pluffsyqzerty: and it gives the app no chance to like clean up and stuff?12:15
qzertypluffsy: if the app handles sigstp12:15
kbrookspluffsy, its not literally stop12:15
DeVeRaSCome on ppl help me out12:15
DeVeRaSyou don't have this directive on the file12:15
DeVeRaSi must be someplace else12:16
DeVeRaSi never deleted anything there (apache2.conf)12:16
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kbrooksDeVeRaS, whats your problem?12:16
SeveasDeVeRaS, grep -i documentroot -R /etc/apache*12:16
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qzertyyour asking apache questions and you know nothing of apache: the document root directive is the fucking 5th line in your default file12:16
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Kyral!lart qzerty12:17
kbrooksqzerty, why swear like that12:17
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liquidten2<_<12:17
qzertykbrooks: Because god hates him, and i wanted him to know i sympathize with god.12:17
Seveasqzerty: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct12:17
kbrookskyral, do not play with the bot12:17
Kyralkbrooks, it was a special situation12:17
SeveasKyral, no it wasn't12:18
KyralI was larting him for the language12:18
kbrookskyral: so?12:18
tobinic-firmware-6.2.10-5-386-di failed to unpack and the system wont continue to install what should i do?12:18
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KyralIf I had ops I would have kicked him12:18
kbrookskyral: you are essentially representing the community12:18
SeveasKyral, which is exactly why you are not an op...12:18
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qzertyhahahaha12:18
tobihelp pls12:18
Seveasnow please stop it or takw this to -offtopic12:18
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KyralLanguage like that cannot be tolerated, especially in a help channel12:19
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tobihelp???12:19
qzertytobi: you download a version of it that isn't corrupted12:19
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kbrookskyral: hiding behind the bot to do "offensive" commands isnt tolerated either12:19
tobia cd was delivered to me12:19
tobican it still be used?12:20
brownscarwho knows alot about ubuntu?12:20
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qzerty...12:20
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qzertyWho knows how to ask a question?12:20
ThunderguySo say, I had a warty install and a hoary cd, by putting the CD in sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade, it will upgrade itself from the newer cd right? would there be any disadvantage upgrading it from the cd, rather then reformatting it and reinstalling?12:20
x_madbotI have installed sylpheed-claws-gtk2, but now the "view" causes a segmantation fault, anyone knows about this?12:21
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qzertyThunderguy: you are right12:21
x_madbot"view" menu12:21
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Seveasbrownscar, no one knows, we just pretend to :)12:21
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mirakI got this error when with ATI driver "could not open default font fixed"12:21
ThunderguySay, If Im right 1.8 gigs is what Ubuntu comes out to, if I upgrade, would it be using a lot more space or would it delete the old files it doesn't need?12:21
qzertyThunderguy: No real disadvantages assumming everything goes right, other than strayed directories and you having to overwrite alot of confs12:22
SeveasThunderguy, during the upgrade you will need a lot of extra diskspace12:22
Seveasbut afterwards not12:22
qzertyThunderguy: issue apt-get clean aftewards12:22
Thunderguyah ok.12:22
brownscarqzerty12:22
brownscarcan u help me out12:22
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Thunderguyso then what I might do is delete my gnome,xserver, home directory configs? and certain programs that were affected by the upgrade?12:22
Seveas!tell brownscar about ask12:23
SeveasThunderguy, why would you?12:23
kbrooksThunderguy, No.12:23
ThunderguyWould the program be smart enough to rewrite the configs?12:23
Thunderguyor import the old configs?12:23
auraxi need good ftpd12:23
kbrooksThunderguy, it doesn't "rewrite", it merely prompts you12:23
Seveasfor global configs (/etc), yes it is smart enough12:23
auraxsimple to config and easy to jail users12:24
auraxand idea?12:24
Seveasor sort of smart enough12:24
Seveasaurax, vsftpd12:24
auraxSeveas12:24
qzertyThunderguy: It will prompt you for every config you ened to overwrite12:24
auraxi tell you what my prob is12:24
ali4728Help I get this error "Relay access denied" when try to send email through remote client. I can receive but cant send email. Here is mail.log http://pastebin.com/381072  Any comments appreciated.12:24
Seveasor else pureftpd with pureadmin12:24
qzertyThunderguy: So expect to hit Y about 15 times12:24
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auraxi got samba dir with user that is read/write access12:24
brownscarI am trying to install Ubuntu onto my laptop and when I am about to partition my drives it says I have 8MB left, when I have 4.2 GB free when I am in Windows XP.12:24
auraxhmm12:24
auraxits easy?12:24
brownscarwhat is that all about?12:24
auraxpureadmin php12:25
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aurax?12:25
ThunderguyAnother question, They have some linux distro's coming out in stores for like $60 I think eventually it will be fore sale next to windows, If I got permission from a store..12:25
Seveasali4728, did you read the mail server manual like I suggested?12:25
Seveaspureadmin is a gtk gui12:25
ali4728Seveas, yeah still got the problem12:25
Thunderguyand burned my Own Ubuntu Discs and put them in an area next to the priced Linux distro's with a sign that says: Free Take one, think that would be bad?12:25
auraxah its remote system12:25
sorush20how do I uninstall12:25
qzertybrownscar: your drive is already partitioned then, delete the partition and allow linux to write its own filesystem to it12:25
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ali4728Seveas, I can receive but not send!12:25
Seveasali4728, then you didn't read good enoguh12:25
sorush20make install12:25
sorush20make uninstall12:25
Seveasali4728, and NO i will not give shortcuts12:25
kbrooksI want to change my background to a blank one. what to do?12:25
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Seveasgiving half-baked instructions has the risk of turning your machine into a spam host12:26
ekimus!ati12:26
ubotuI guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx12:26
ubuntuhello all12:26
Seveasso read the manual carefully12:26
Seveasit's in there12:26
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DeThroneDThunderguy: bad for whom?  ;)12:26
brownscarif I choose the 60GB option12:26
brownscarwill it delete everything in windows?12:26
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ali4728Seveas, it is confusing to me , thats why I am here!!!12:26
ThunderguyWell I'm not sure about redistributing Ubuntu, If I distribute Ubuntu to the stores, should I order their cd's, I figured I should use my own resources.12:26
qzertybrownscar: most certainly12:27
kbrooksThunderguy, you're allowed to redistribute ubuntu12:27
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ThunderguyIf I put ubuntu in say wal-mart I'd either burn 50 cd-r's to make 25 disc packs, or order a lot from shipit12:27
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qzertyIt would be a total waste to put them in wal-mart.12:27
Seveas:)12:27
brownscarqzert: but it says on the cd package that all I need is 1.8 GB free space12:27
Thunderguyah.12:27
brownscarand i wanna have a dual OS laptop12:28
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stperebrownscar, you need to resize your current partition12:28
kbrooksYay. warty -> hoary almost done.12:28
qzertybrownscar: Thats right but that 1.8gb has to come from a totally autonomous partition not empty space on your windows partition12:28
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Seveaskbrooks, lol, that's late :)12:28
kbrooksSeveas, "late"?12:28
brownscarok so how can i resize my current partition?12:29
ThunderguySee what I'm thinking is, if I put it.. Right next to Lindows ( I forget what they renamed that distro ) People might pick up the free one.12:29
qzertybrownscar: Google for the term 'hard drive partition' and allow that to clear up the confusion12:29
qzertybrownscar: Partition Magic 8 or the like.12:29
Seveaskbrooks, hoary is half a year old now12:29
sorush20how may passwords can firefox hold.. can I change it to a higher number or not12:29
qzertybrownscar: You need to be able to resize an ntfs partition12:29
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Seveasupgrading to hoary now is late :)12:29
brownscarthank u12:29
kbrooksSeveas, i'm not rushing to breezy yet12:29
qzertyI've been using breezy for 6months now12:29
kbrooksSeveas, it is not stable.12:29
ThunderguyDoes anyone order from shipit every 6 months? ( when a new distro comes out? )12:30
Seveasqzerty, impossible12:30
yarddogbreezy works for me, hoary froze on my system12:30
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kbrookswell.....12:30
sorush20why couldn't upgrading to breezy be as simple as Ubuntu update manager.. why hasn't anyone addressed this12:30
SeveasThunderguy, yes, but just to spread them12:30
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kbrooksmaybe i should try breezy out then12:30
Seveassorush20, it's an UBZ BOF12:30
Belutzthe dist-upgrade took me 15 hours to complete :(12:30
yarddogit is easy to update12:30
kbrooksSeveas, UBZ BOF?12:30
brownscardoes partition magic let u ntfs partition?12:30
Seveaskbrooks, wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero12:30
qzertySeveas: I moved to breeze shortly after hoary frooze =[ 6monthsish sounds right12:31
yarddog15 hrs?12:31
yarddogyikes12:31
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kbrooksaH.12:31
kevogodIt took me like 2 hours.12:31
Thunderguyah ok, Seveas: I ordered 20 cd's from shipit 3 months ago, in 2 months I got rid of 10 to people that wanted them, so if breezy comes out, I don't know what to do with the other 10.12:31
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yarddogshouldnt really be a big deal12:31
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yarddogdownload, watch it update, reboot, done.12:31
Thunderguyhowever, I think If I order 20 this time, I may get all the breezy's out before the next one comes out, ( since I would have about 4 months on my hands correct? )12:31
Belutzyup 15 hours... slow connections in here in indonesia :(12:32
kbrooksHmmm.12:32
yarddogomg12:32
yarddogsounds like dialup12:32
kbrooksIs a IDE included in hoary, Seveas?12:32
ubuntuToday, I stand as a windows user now on linux. Ubuntu rocks!12:32
Thunderguykbrooks: I'm on an IDE drive.12:32
kbrooksNo.12:32
brownscarqzerty: if i get the trial and i uninstall it after will it undo the changes?12:32
kbrooksThunderguy, you misread12:32
qzertybrownscar: I have no idea.12:32
schpenkeubuntu: Congrats.  Enjoy your new freedom.12:33
kbrooksIDE = integrated development environment12:33
brownscarqzerty: lol thats reassuring12:33
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Belutzyarddog, not dial up, cable... but the maximum download is only 15kbps12:33
kbrooksBelutz, that sucks12:33
kbrooksBelutz, why they'd cap the dl?12:34
Belutzkbrooks, yep, that really sucks12:34
yarddogwow12:34
kbrooksBelutz, i have 40 (up to) kb/s12:34
Belutzkbrooks, that's because internet connections is still expensive in here12:34
kbrooksactually, it goes up to 3712:34
jackconstantineyo, having issues with gcc12:34
jackconstantinei try to compile something12:35
jackconstantineand get12:35
jackconstantineC++ compiler cannot create executables.12:35
jackconstantine(it recognizes gcc)12:35
ThunderguyIf I got a CD together with: win32 codecs, instructions for sources.list, wineX precompiled, some programs, some manuals, some Video,Audio Libraries, Server Libraries, ClamAv, and most of the stuff aforementioned in the UbuntuGuide, Think I would have any legal problems distributing it With the Ubuntu Set?12:35
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Belutzbut i'm happy that i'm breezy-ing right now :D12:35
juanfrahi12:35
kbrooksThunderguy, Not really.12:35
Belutzand having an ATI issues12:36
yarddogwhere can i get the win32codecs ?12:36
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kbrooks!+w32codecs12:36
ThunderguyIt would be like: Ubuntu-Addons (distro-name)12:36
ubotuw32codecs is, like, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439912:36
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deanmcksomethings wrong with my desktop. I was messing around with a theme and now I can't click on my desktop... any suggestions?12:36
kbrooks@ yarddog12:36
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deanmckI've restarted gnome12:36
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theretherppl....a little help with playing mp3 on rhythm and box....:) hellppp:)12:36
tristanmikeThunderguy, you'd have to pay for the codecs that have licencing, or risk those people coming after you. After all, wouldn't this be the reason Ubuntu doesn't include it?12:36
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kbrooks!+mp312:36
theretherppl....a little help with playing mp3 on rhythm and box....:) hellppp:))))12:36
ubotump3 is, like, totally, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support12:36
nomedhi all12:37
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ThunderguyAh Ok.12:37
kbrookstherether, maybe the above link will help you a bit12:37
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nomedhow can i unpatch the ubuntu kernel source ..? i need to remove just the vesafb patch12:37
imterrohmmm does anyone know a good place to get linux codecs?12:37
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deanmckis nautilus what runs the desktop?12:38
D1what do you mean, linux codecs?12:38
kbrooksimterro, maybe you want w32codecs?12:38
ciushello12:38
tristanmikeThunderguy, you may want to check out this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30147 for something along the lines of what you're looking for, I believe.12:38
theretherkbrooks, what link ?12:38
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ThunderguyWhy thank you.12:39
kbrookstherether:12:39
imterrokbrooks, i would just like codecs because most of my clips wont run12:39
kbrooks!+mp312:39
ubotuI heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support12:39
ciusI have 5.1 channel sound on my intel mobo, ac97 codec, and I want to say AD1985 chipset (?) and I can't for the life of me get it to work on ubuntu hoary.  Can someone help?12:39
doogluswhenever I run GNOME, I always get these 3 processes start up: evolution-alarm-notify evolution-exchange-storage evolution-data-server-1.4.  Is it possible to stop that?  I don't use evolution, and don't intend to.12:39
yarddogi always thought torrent was fast, this is like dialup :(12:39
kbrooksimtero: !+w32codecs12:39
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theretherkbrooks, ok thanks12:39
kbrooks!+w32codecs12:39
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ubotu[w32codecs]  a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439912:39
D1is bt the only place to get the codecs from now that they're out of backports?12:39
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yarddogkbrooks, lol12:40
ciusubotu, is those are apt repos right?12:40
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, cius12:40
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kbrooksyarddog, whats so funny?12:40
Seveaskbrooks, help.ubuntu.com is in progress12:40
cychem1how can i make sasl2 authdaemond give very verbose out put and what log will it ouput to?12:40
Seveasthere's doc.ubuntu.com in the meantime12:40
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kbrooksSeveas, i really should point people to that, yes? ;)12:40
kbrooksoh. no.12:41
yarddogkbrooks, nothing really funny, since everyone seems to ask the same questions, maybe put in the topic :)12:41
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kbrooksyarddog, the topic is ... hmmm12:41
MadpilotPPCyarddog, that would only work if people actually read the topic... :P12:42
kbrooks"bloated"12:42
yarddogheh12:42
imterrohmm it would appear aptitude doesnt have them12:42
Seveaskbrooks, given that it's already in the topic we can assume noone reads it...12:42
kbrookshard to describe ;)12:42
MadpilotPPC!tell imterro about w32codecs12:42
yarddogkbrooks, after this win32codec file donwloads, dpkg -i .... ?12:42
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SeveasThere, trimmed the topic a bit12:43
kbrooksSeveas, Thanks ;)12:43
dell500is there a dvd of 5.10?12:44
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kbrooksdell500, kind of pointless12:44
ciuswould anyone have any advice on how to fix my 5.1 problem.  I've googled a lot and still can't get it working12:44
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dell500kbrooks, cause there is a new release soon?12:44
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ciusI suppose ther should have been a question mark in there somewhere12:44
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brian__hello everyone12:44
_native_so WEP is broken in ubuntu i assume. wireless works out of the box only in usecured nets.12:44
_native_*unsecured12:45
brian__i had a question about running VNC on my newly installed Ubuntu box12:45
kbrooksdell500, No. Look at FC, they supply multiple cds, and one DVD which combines those multiple cds12:45
_native_transparent Xchat yay!12:45
PeerSofthow do I get my modem to work, i know its supported.12:45
kbrooksdell500, but for ubuntu, its kind of pointless12:45
brian__vncserver doesn't seem to be present on the system though the package manager says that the client/server is installed12:45
kbrooks_native_, how do I set that up?12:45
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dell500kbrooks, why is it pointless/12:46
qzerty...12:46
cychem1how can i make sasl2 authdaemond give very verbose out put and what log will it ouput to?12:46
brian__does anyone know how to get vncserver installed?12:46
discipleofyeshuahey guys12:46
kbrooksdell500, I implied12:46
qzertywep works fine in ubuntu12:46
kbrooks'one cd'12:46
discipleofyeshuais anyone one? i have a question about my connection speed: for some reason, it is really slow, i have ubuntu with a 56k US robotics modem12:46
_native_hold on.12:46
discipleofyeshuadoes anyone know where i can check my modem's connection speed on ubuntu?12:46
discipleofyeshuayou know, i went to that link and installed some of the MP3 and dvd components on my system, but many of them didnt install, i think its because my connection speed is to slow, does anyone know where i can check it, or somehow make it faster? windows is much faster on this same connection12:46
discipleofyeshuaon the same modem, ect12:46
discipleofyeshuaalso, i am wondering how i can get to a different chat room...12:46
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qzertydiscipleofyeshua: /disco #chatroom12:47
discipleofyeshuapeerosft, i well tell you how i got my modem working...12:47
discipleofyeshuaare you still there>?12:47
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mattyJwhats a good app to convert ogg to mp3?12:47
kbrooksdiscipleofyeshua, Clarification: no chatrooms. only channels.12:47
discipleofyeshuahow do i register my nick to go there?12:47
mirakhow to run ATi control panel fglrx-control ?12:47
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qzertydiscipleofyeshua: /msg nickserv register password12:47
brian__can anyone see my messages?12:48
scalei'm having a hard time unzipping a .7z file... i tried searching for p7zip on the universe repository but it isn't there, apparently...12:48
therether...i need some help, i cant play mp3 in my rhythm and box. I had tried everything...someone can help me ?12:48
scaleif anyone can help please feel free to msg me12:48
joe_alfscale, sudo apt-get 7zip12:48
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DonLdiscipleofyeshua, try : http://www.internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/12:48
joe_alfscale, sudo apt-get install 7zip12:48
MadpilotPPCtherether, you need mp3 codecs installed, they aren't by default12:48
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MadpilotPPC!tell therether about mp312:49
brian__hello everyone12:49
_native_kaycee12:49
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_native_you here12:49
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Seveas!info p7zip12:49
_native_?12:49
Seveas!info p7zip breezy12:49
ubotup7zip: (7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 4.20-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1384 kB, Installed size: 3608 kB12:49
Seveasah -- it's only in breezy12:49
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tristanmikeboooooo12:49
Seveasbrian__, no we can't see them ;)12:49
scaleso how do i get it into hoary?12:49
tristanmikeI needed 7zip too12:49
SeveasI can make a backport12:50
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theretherMadpilotPPC, i have the mp3 codecs installed :). I can play mp3 on xmms for example. Only in the Rhytmn and box mp3 dont work :'(12:50
scaleseveas =teH rawK12:50
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smiroldohi there!12:51
MadpilotPPCtherether, you mean "Rythymbox"? it plays mp3 for me - double check which codecs you've got installed12:51
bzimageolah12:51
PeerSoftI installed Kubuntu ; and for some reason my "supported" modem isn't working - but it works fine on windows.  I seen on a website the other night that it is supported by linux ; and its a PCTEL Platinum V.90 56k modem?  anyone know wtfs wrong? I am a new linux user; and I would really love to access the internet on it?12:51
imterromind if i ask how to install this codec thing i downloaded?12:51
smiroldocan someone tell me how to configure the services on boot?12:52
Trashcanis it in a .deb?12:52
scandiumhello, I tried installing breezy/amd64 using colony 5 and the most current daily build, but both fail at the beginning of the installation reading "jfsutils-udeb", the installer says error reading from the disc, the console output says "WARNING: ** bad md5sum" - but I tried two different CDs and the md5sum of both ISOs was correct - sounds too much of a coincidence to me to be a physical disc problem? Anyone seen that before?12:52
D1any of you guys use xchat-gnome?12:52
theretherMadpilotPPC, yes Rhythmbox, but i think the codecs are good...xmms, beep, and others play mp3.12:52
theretherMadpilotPPC, only Rhythmbox no...12:52
imterroTrashcan, yes it is12:52
tristanmikeimterro, "sudo dpkg -i <packagename>" if it's a ".deb"12:52
imterrothanks12:52
Trashcanwhat he said12:52
imterrodpkg?12:52
transgress hello comrades!12:53
tristanmikeimterro, in the terminal, and yes "dpkg" is the command12:53
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_native_welcome12:53
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Seveastristanmike, scale -- package is building...12:53
discipleofyeshuai am sorry, but i havnt been able to register my nick, because no one has explained it clearly enough for me to do so...12:53
discipleofyeshuathank you12:53
Hanhe, hi. Hang on, I'm preparing my question.12:53
discipleofyeshuaany idea about how to make it faster? i have a US robotics 56k ecternal... and it is soooo slow running on ubuntu for some reason...12:53
tristanmikeSeveas, that's sweet, when I learn to do the same thing, I will return the favors12:54
PeerSoftusually a 56k modem is slow either way u hzve it.12:54
PeerSofthave*12:54
PeerSoftbut mine isnt working on kubuntu for some reason12:54
PeerSoftand its suppose to be supoprted according to a website ;x12:54
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bzimage;)12:54
PeerSoftl,ol12:54
PeerSoftwell can u help? ;x12:54
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PeerSoftthis is the first time ive ever messed w/ linux before12:55
smiroldocan someone tell me how to configure the services on boot?12:55
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Seveassmiroldo, system -> administration -> services12:55
phreak_I'm having some problems with the 64bit edition, I think i'm going to resinstall down the the I3212:55
scaleseveas: this is what the backports page on sourceforge is for, right? requests like this?12:56
phreak_Anyone have any luck with the evolution-exchange on 64bit?12:56
_native_what services12:56
_native_?12:56
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Seveasscale, no12:57
ciusanyone in here use intel onboard 5.1 sound?12:57
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Seveasscale, tristanmike -- http://81.171.100.19/~dennis/12:57
imterrohmmm odd, i installed the codecs, but the file still wont play, anyone know why?12:57
HanI installed xfont-terminus package and According to /etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-terminus.alias there should be an alias fontname terminus-24. But when I run xterm -fn terminus-24 it can't find the font. Nor can I find that font with xlsfonts. How can I fix that?12:57
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discipleofyeshuahey, could any of you fine folks tell me why my modem speed might be so slow, and how i can speed it up? i am running an external 56k US robotics on ubuntu12:57
Seveasdiscipleofyeshua, order DSL, that will speed up things12:58
Seveasmodems are slow by nature12:58
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tristanmikeSeveas, that was very nice of you to take the time to do that for us, thanx12:58
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thrice`how is breezy still f'ed, this close to release12:58
PeerSoftmk seems like noone knows how to install the modem on linux?12:58
DonLdiscipleofyeshua, did you try the website link I showed you? What speeds are you getting?12:58
scaleseveas: thanks a lot... really appreciate it12:58
discipleofyeshuaNo, i know that my modem is much faster on windows... there must be somting wrong with the config, or somthing that would make it so slow...12:58
Hanhello thrice` what are you doing here? :-)12:58
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thrice`Han, testing ubuntu on a friends box =] 12:58
Seveasthrice`, it isn't12:58
thrice`with bad luck12:58
Seveaswhat's the prob?12:59
thrice`Seveas, gdm won't start12:59
HanHmm works ok here, most of the time.12:59
Seveasthrice`, how old is your install CD?12:59
thrice`Seveas, i did a hoary update12:59
Seveasjust now?12:59
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thrice`ineed12:59
ultramancoolhi12:59
Seveasdid you reboot?12:59
Hanthrice`, reboot12:59
ultramancoolhow can i disable su?12:59
thrice`of course =] 12:59
thrice`libGL issues12:59
Seveasthrice`, what's the error?12:59
Seveasah12:59
_native_remove it ;] 01:00
thrice`i tried using fglrx, not using fglrx,01:00
phreak_Wow, its been probebly 8 years since i've had a modem :)01:00
bzimageultramancool, why?01:00
Seveasati/nvidia drivers manually compiled?01:00
thrice`Seveas, no chance, I have no X...01:00
ultramancoolhow can i make it so that su is only acessible to the wheel group?01:00
Seveasi mean, before the upgrade01:00
DonLthrice`, I had the same problem. Ended up fixing it with Aptitude, though I don't quite know what I did, and several reboots01:00
Seveasultramancool, su is disabled by default01:00
ultramancoolnot to other users!01:00
thrice`Seveas, no, using repos's drivers01:00
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scaleseveas: worked great. thanks a lot...01:00
ultramancoolusers can su to other users01:00
kbrooksuse sudo, ultramancool01:00
mattyJwhats a good app to convert ogg to mp3?01:01
d33pconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:01
ultramancoolusers can su to other users01:01
Hanultramancool, that's an option explained in the manpage01:01
Seveasthrice`, hmm... those should ebe upgraded too...01:01
kbrookssudo <command>01:01
ultramancoolit doesn't!01:01
thrice`Seveas, yes, they were01:01
_native_better question: how to truly disable root and only allow sudo.01:01
Seveasdo you have ubuntu-desktop installed and linux-386 (or -686 or -k7)01:01
thrice`Seveas, but it fails, and just spits out my xorg.conf as a decoding tool01:01
kbrooks_native_, passwd -l. easy nuff, no?01:01
claydohPeerSoft: what model modem?01:01
Seveasultramancool, chmod 0000 /bin/su01:01
ultramancoolTHE PROBLEM IS THAT USERS CAN SU TO OTHER USERS NOT ROOT!01:01
_native_granted that it would be trivial to reenable01:01
PeerSoftPctel Platinum v9001:01
Seveasultramancool, and drop the caps01:01
PeerSoftmanufactured by Compaq01:02
ultramancoolI was shouting!01:02
thrice`Seveas, um, I should; it was a clean hoary install, update to breezy01:02
d33pconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:02
thrice`with only installing vid. drivers as a modification01:02
Seveasthrice`, sduo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:02
thrice`Seveas, hrm...alright01:02
oxezd33p: apt-get install build-essentials01:02
Seveasmanually tweaked xorg.conf can wreak havoc01:02
SeveasX has been massively changed01:02
ultramancooli mean the real way through pam?01:02
oxezd33p: or build-essential, im not sure01:02
thrice`Seveas, and if that fails ?01:02
imterrocan anyone tell me why after i installed the codecs that i still cannot play the file?01:02
thrice`i'm on my crux box at the moment, as this won't boot =|01:02
Seveasthrice`, then come back ;)01:02
ultramancoolnow chmod or chown or chgrp01:02
kbrooksoxez, essential01:02
thrice`should I try to install fglrx first ?01:03
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thrice`is fglrx built into the kernel ?01:03
Hunkyspunkyhi.01:03
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_native_so is there a simple soulution to truly enforce only sudo.  the sudoer not being able to change this.??01:03
tristanmikehow do I run 7zip now?01:03
Seveasultramancool, disabling su is so uncommon (and usually stupid) that there is no 'neat' way afaik01:03
Hunkyspunkyi can't get windows to boot ubuntu live cd01:03
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d33poxez, it's build-essential... but gcc seams to have dependencies problems :(01:03
oxezkbrooks: yes ok01:03
ultramancoolYES THERE IS01:03
ultramancool!!!01:03
Hunkyspunkyi setup bios for cd boot first01:03
ubotu! is, like, totally, what you add before a sentence to talk to me01:03
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thrice`Seveas, ah, ok; i'll try a few more things =] 01:03
Seveasultramancool, last time, drop the caps01:03
deanmckI was messing around with my backcground, but now I can't click anything on the desktop and the icons are missing, all of the panels still work does anyone have any suggestions?01:03
kbrooksultramancool, drop those evil caps01:04
nalioth_wrkntristanmike: 7za <option> <file>01:04
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ultramancoolSeveas: I only use caps when I'm shouting01:04
tristanmikeno gui?01:04
Hunkyspunkycan someone pm me to help me with live cd?01:04
alkalineXgah.. my highlands keep notifing me everytime you mention *ultra*01:04
_native_cause what i know from sudoers configuration it is seems hard to enforce.01:04
Seveasultramancool, then don't shout01:04
alkalineXhighlights*01:04
Seveasand edit /etc/pam.d/su to your needas01:04
kbrooksimterro?01:04
ultramancoolSeveas: also, run for yourself cat /etc/pam.d/su01:04
Seveasneeds*01:04
Seveasthe file is documented01:04
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Hunkyspunkycome on over 500 people soemone must be able to help me.01:05
ultramancoolSeveas: the problem is, changing the option doesn't work01:05
Hunkyspunkylive cd probelms i got01:05
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ssdd65how do i probe for eth cards?01:05
DonLHunkyspunky, have you changed the boot sequence in you bios?01:05
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Seveasultramancool, what did you specify01:06
Hunkyspunkyi have changed my boot sequecne to for on board or usb cd device is ifrst then had seconmd01:06
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Hunkyspunkyit searches for a bootable cd but fails01:06
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tristanmikethanx nalioth, but does it incorperate into my archive manager or is just strictly a command line tool?01:06
d33pcan't install gcc, it seams to have dependency problems, weird01:06
Hunkyspunkyi downloaded the iso and burnt to dvd01:06
kbrooksI want to close a workspace. how can i do this01:06
Hunkyspunkythe dvd is still open01:06
kbrooksnalioth! long time no see01:07
Hunkyspunkybut when windows is lauched the autoplay comes up01:07
DonLHunkyspunky, ahh. Maybe you didn't "build" a bootable cd01:07
Hunkyspunkyanybody now what could be the porblem?01:07
ultramancool# Uncomment this to force users to be a member of group root01:07
ultramancool# before they can use `su'. You can also add "group=foo" to01:07
ultramancool# to the end of this line if you want to use a group other01:07
ultramancool# than the default "root".01:07
ultramancool# (Replaces the `SU_WHEEL_ONLY' option from login.defs)01:07
ultramancoolauth       required   pam_wheel.so group=wheel debug01:07
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SeveasNEVER paste in here01:07
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grndslmNO CAPS!01:07
grndslmj/k01:07
kbrooksGosh.01:07
Trashcanjesus seveas... ban him already :\01:07
Hunkyspunkyi downlaoded the files and extracted files using winrar and then burnt files to dvd01:08
Hunkyspunkythe autoplay works on windows01:08
PassionLimWhat dose "NO CAPS" mean?01:08
deanmckhunkyspunky so you're unable to boot to the dvd?01:08
Hunkyspunkyyes01:08
PeerSoftyou should've used nero hunky01:08
PeerSoftto burn the whole image01:08
PeerSoftincluding the boots01:08
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Trashcanfinally01:08
Hunkyspunkyis there anyhting i can do?01:08
grndslmit was for Seveas01:08
PeerSoftyea01:08
PeerSoftredownload it01:09
PeerSoftand reburn it01:09
PeerSoftlol01:09
PeerSoftthats all I personalyl can tell u01:09
PeerSoftconsidering I dont know anything about linux01:09
Hunkyspunkyi oredered 1 live cd on shipit but won't ship for a while and want to see if this will run01:09
PeerSoftim in here tryin to get modem help01:09
PeerSoft;x01:09
discipleofyeshuayou know, i tried does anyone know how to make your letters red, or to speak privatly to someone?01:09
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Hunkyspunkythansk01:09
Trashcandisciple: type /msg theirname message01:09
PeerSoftyea01:09
PeerSofttrashcan i  was typing it out01:09
hondjediscipleofyeshua: it shows red when I type your name in xchat, and /msg <person> <stuff> is the other part01:09
PeerSoftlol01:09
naliothdiscipleofyeshua: when someone types your nick, it shows up differently to alert you01:09
Hunkyspunkyalso when i run live cd all my dirvers are loaded and evices working?01:09
discipleofyeshuadoes anyone have any suggestions as to how i could check my modem speed, or somehow get it to run faster? it is running really slowly!01:10
hondjeand if they have an annoyingly long nick, type the first part and hit tab to get the rest01:10
itzdiscipleofyeshua,  Y dipp it into water01:10
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Hunkyspunkythansk01:10
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Hunkyspunkyalso is ubuntu better then windows?01:11
Hunkyspunkysecurer?01:11
discipleofyeshuanalioth this this work, did my letters appear red to you?01:11
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SeveasHunkyspunky, of course :)01:11
bam_anyone know how to stop mounted drives from appearing on my desktop?01:11
bzimageHunkyspunky, define better01:11
bzimage;)01:11
Seveasbam_, it's a key hidden deep down in gconf01:11
deanmckwhat app is running the desktop icons, clicking/dragging, right-click etc?01:11
Seveasopen gconf-editor01:11
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Hunkyspunkystable and doesn't carash often good a t networking and that stuff01:11
Seveasand browse through /apps/nautilus01:11
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bam_ohh.....01:11
thrice`Seveas, ah, that worked; shall I avoid trying fglrx til release?01:11
Hunkyspunkylater guys going to wait for shipit to send cds01:12
bzimageHunkyspunky, in that case: yes it's better than windows01:12
naliothdiscipleofyeshua: it is good policy to put the persons nick in front of your text when you are talking to them01:12
Seveasthrice`, you can re-enable fglrx01:12
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thrice`i like this new background =] 01:12
tristanmikeI can't get 7zip to work, I get "Incorrect command line" on a "7za -e <filename.7z", what am I doing wrong?01:12
kbrooksnalioth: am i on ignore? :(01:13
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Seveastristanmike, try 7za -e filename.7z01:13
bzimagethrice`, i can read you01:13
bzimage:)01:13
thierry_how do I  take off my old kernels from my gmd boot thing01:13
discipleofyeshuanalioth you mean like this?01:13
discipleofyeshuanalioth: you mean like this? is this working?01:13
discipleofyeshuasigh...01:13
discipleofyeshualinux can be so frustrating sometimes to get it right01:13
Seveasthierry_, remove their packages01:13
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tristanmikeSeveas, that's what I did, I forgot the ">" in that last line01:13
thierry_Seveas : already done and it's still there01:13
discipleofyeshuapeople tell me how to do somthing, but alot of times i dont understand, because they assume that i know a certain step already that they would take for granted01:14
tristanmikeSeveas, I didn't really use the <>01:14
Seveastristanmike, ah ok01:14
discipleofyeshuaand they are ina  hurry01:14
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phreak_quck question, i've got a .run file, and it will not execute01:14
phreak_should i just sh at terminal on it?01:14
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natedogghow can I test if my sound works?01:14
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bzimagephreak_, chmod it to 75501:14
kbrooksphreak_, run file on it01:14
bzimagethen execute it01:14
kbrooksbzimage, +x01:14
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Seveastristanmike, 7za e instead of 7za -e01:15
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Seveasor better: 7za x01:15
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boxerboy29the device data base in the system tools menu01:15
thierry_Seveas : I seriously need to take off my old kernel... but how??01:15
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phreak_I allready chmodded it to 77701:15
tristanmikeSeveas, yeah, bingo, isn't the "-" used to define the option though? Why does it work without it?01:15
discipleofyeshuanalioth: do you know a way to check my current modem connection speed in ubuntu? or how to improve that speed? why is it so much slower than windows right now?01:16
whyameyeIs there any way from keeping programs from stealing focus?01:16
tgreenneed help on getting sound on the mplayer01:16
HrdwrBoBtristanmike: + says 'add this permission'01:16
Seveastristanmike, read 'man 7za' :)01:16
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dooglustristanmike: if you just run "7za" without arguments it shows you usage information01:16
bzimagee.g. chmod 755 blablabla.run && ./blablabla.run01:16
yawgmoth7Is there a name for a sound driver, like could i just sudo apt-get install <Sound driver name here>01:16
yawgmoth7Because i have the sound driver01:16
Seveasthierry_, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst01:16
HrdwrBoByawgmoth7: what sound card01:17
HrdwrBoByawgmoth7: you should not need to install any drivers01:17
yawgmoth7Audigy Soundblaster Live! 24bit01:17
tristanmikeI have trouble reading the man pages01:17
tristanmikelol01:17
tristanmikethanx all01:17
HrdwrBoB!audigy01:17
ubotuaudigy is, like, muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.01:17
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tgreensound work's fine on realplayer01:17
Seveastristanmike, that specific one is quite clear01:17
phreak_Got a cannot exectue binary file error....01:17
bzimagekbrooks, yes +x is also a way.. (i prefer the number way..)01:17
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jimmyyyyyyhi01:17
kevogodhey01:17
bam_whats the syntax for command line install?01:18
discipleofyeshuait seems like you can just use symtaptic package manager and direct it to your driver01:18
HrdwrBoBbam_: apt-get install packagename01:18
jimmyyyyyyso what's wrong with pasting in here?01:18
bzimagebam_, sudo apt-get install <package>01:18
seliniumbam_, sudo apt-get install <application>01:18
phreak_Ubuntu wants to open a 250 met .run file with a txt editor....01:18
bam_local01:18
Stricklinxmms says it's playing an mp3, and my speakers are working for other things like alerts and such, but no music. Help?01:18
kevogodjimmyyyyyy, Don't paste multiple lines.01:18
Seveasjimmyyyyyy, it's very disruptive and simply bad netiquette01:18
HrdwrBoBjimmyyyyyy: it's irritating and not useful, just use pastebin01:18
Seveasjust like shouting01:18
bam_say i have the file on desktop01:18
bzimagebam_, sudo dpkg -i blablab.deb01:18
tristanmikeSeveas, thanx, I'm trying to get a hang of it still, sorry for the obvious questions01:18
bam_bingo, thanks01:18
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HrdwrBoBStricklin: check the output plugin of XMMS in it's preferences01:19
HrdwrBoBStricklin: change it to 'esd'01:19
jimmyyyyyySeveas: Seem familiar yet? i may have been here 1 min ago?01:19
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SuperSonixHi there01:19
Seveasjimmyyyyyy, yes, very, that's why i gave the remark about shouting01:19
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jimmyyyyyyok then01:19
StricklinAudio I/O Plugins?01:20
jimmyyyyyyi'll add that to my already huge list of things i'll get flamed or banned for01:20
jimmyyyyyyor both01:20
Trashcan...just don't shout, and don't paste01:20
HrdwrBoBStricklin: yes, under output plugin01:20
SuperSonixI give up of Ubuntu coz u must be able to download many things !!! Why Ubuntu cant be on 4/5 CDs and we can just update it !?01:20
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StricklinThere's an eSound output plugin, that it?01:21
jimmyyyyyywell how am i supposed to show my config files the proper way?01:21
kbrooksjimmyyyyyy, warning then ban (if you do things twice)01:21
yawgmoth7Well01:21
Trashcanhttp://www.pastebin.com01:21
Seveasjimmyyyyyy, see the topic01:21
kbrooksjimmyyyyyy, /topic01:21
kbrookslast item01:21
Trashcanhttp://www.rafb.net/paste01:21
Trashcanhttp://www.nomorepasting.com01:21
jimmyyyyyykbrookes: i alread got banned that's the funny thing01:21
kbrooksSeveas, geez, people should read the topic...01:21
StricklinSuperSonix, that works, thanks.01:21
[drunk] logicis there a tutorial anywhere on creating packages for apt-get?01:21
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yawgmoth7So i couldnt find Audigy Analogue/Digital Out, so i just turned everything up..........and it still dosent seem to play sound01:22
HrdwrBoByawgmoth7: you have to unmute it01:22
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jimmyyyyyysorry i only read topics when i'm just chatting for no reason01:22
discipleofyeshuaSuperSOnix: do you know of a better linux operating system that comes with more disks?01:22
yawgmoth7It wasnt even there though01:22
HrdwrBoBin alsamixer use 'm'01:22
Seveas[drunk] logic, apt-get install maint-guide; firefox file:///usr/share/doc/maint-guide/01:22
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Trashcanhttp://people.debian.org/~jaldhar/make_package1.html01:22
[drunk] logicthanks Seveas :)01:22
TrashcanI assume debian packages are similar enough to Ubuntu packages?01:22
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SeveasTrashcan, yeah01:22
naliothdiscipleofyeshua: if you want lots of disks. get debian there are about 14 discs, iirc01:22
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Seveasit's all .deb01:23
naliothTrashcan: not really01:23
jimmyyyyyyI really like that pastebin idea01:23
SuperSonixStricklin: Slackware is just fine i think01:23
jimmyyyyyythanks01:23
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boxerboy29why would you want more cds ubuntu has 1 cd and has what 17000 packages that you can get from synaptic01:23
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ccookeTrashcan: Same system. Ubuntu is based on debian.01:23
Seveasnalioth, the way they work is the same :)01:23
qzerty... nalioth that isn't a fair statement01:23
Trashcanright, ccooke01:23
StricklinSuperSonix, I don't understand your meaning01:23
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naliothSeveas: yes, but they break usssss01:23
[drunk] logicSeveas, i dont have that file :-/01:23
Seveashehe, other way around too :)01:23
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discipleofyeshuais it free?01:23
DonLI'd like to learn more about Aptitiude. Anybody know a good how-to?01:23
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Seveas[drunk] logic, you'll have it after installing it01:23
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qzertynalioth: debian can be be installed fine with one cd, if you want the whole debian archive you will need 20, if you want the whole ubuntu archive your going to need more than one cd too01:23
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Seveas'sup d00d :)01:24
ccookeTrashcan: however, in many cases you can't use Debian packages on Ubuntu01:24
cafuego_far too much beer01:24
TrashcanI see..01:24
discipleofyeshuanalioth: is it free?01:24
naliothqzerty: ubuntu isnt offered except on one disc officially01:24
Seveascafuego, get to work :p01:24
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dfcis there any chance that we could have an ubuntu-server package that was similar to ubuntu-base but tuned for a server? ie not depending on alsa?01:24
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naliothdiscipleofyeshua: yes01:24
yawgmoth7Ok, so i found something that was muted, and unmted it, there is no option to turn it up and its not named what01:24
yawgmoth7Its supposed to be01:24
SuperSonixStricklin:There are users ( like me ) thet dont have active connections all the time. For me the best thing is to have all utilities, programs and stuff on the CDs01:24
cafuego_Yeah, maybe later01:24
SeveasSuperSonix, get the ubuntu DVD01:24
yawgmoth7But sound still dosetn play, so i think i have to compile the drivers mylself01:24
yawgmoth7self*01:25
StricklinSuperSonix, ah, I see01:25
kbrooksSeveas, link01:25
jackelFirefox crashes everytime i try to view a embedded video or audio and i have all the plugins installed, Anyone know how to fix it? Im running on the 64 bit version01:25
phreak_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2720 anyone know what to do with this?01:25
Seveas!mirror01:25
ubotufrom memory, mirror is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive01:25
HrdwrBoBSuperSonix: the best thing is to get a permanent connection :)01:25
HrdwrBoBthe *next* best thing is to have it all on DVD :)01:25
kbrooksSeveas, i got the imprerssion there was no ubuntu dvd01:25
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SuperSonixHrdwrBoB: yes01:25
StricklinI couldn't live without boradband01:25
ccookeTrashcan: basically, there are enough small differences - location of some files in the distro, some different choices about what's running etc - to make the larger or more complex packages break if you install them01:25
Stricklinbroadband, rather01:25
ccookeTrashcan: okay?01:25
SuperSonixHrdwrBoB: but my procider cant offer thet :(01:25
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Seveasphreak_, chmod +x armyops230-linux.run01:25
Seveas./armyops230-linux.run01:25
Trashcangotcha, ccooke01:25
Enzietok so i just installed ubuntu for the first time and it didn't come with gcc or any of the stuff neccisary to compile and make files from source. Did i do something wrong?01:25
HrdwrBoBSuperSonix: and you can't change?01:25
HrdwrBoBthat sucks01:25
SeveasEnziet, no01:25
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jonesyhello all.01:26
Seveasthe C compiler is not in the default set of packages01:26
kbrooksEnziet, apt-get install build-essential01:26
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Seveaswhy should it...01:26
ccookeTrashcan: There's little need to use packages directly from Debian on Ubuntu, though01:26
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Seveasfollow kbrooks advice on how to install it01:26
StricklinI've done without cable television, I've done without phone service, but I can't live without broadband Internet service.01:26
Trashcanccooke: the question was about creating packages for use with ubuntu, in which case, it's the same format and should work properly?01:26
SeveasStricklin, *g* I know the feeling ;)01:26
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EnzietSeveas: ok01:26
QMarioStricklin, heh. :)01:26
SeveasTrashcan, absolutely01:26
grgcsmci need to install gnome-sudoku_0.3.2-2_i386.deb01:26
Trashcanalright01:26
Trashcanthanks01:26
SuperSonixHrdwrBoB: i have to w8 better offer ( is very expensive to buy ADSL or something else )01:27
ccookeTrashcan: if you enable the universe and multiverse repositories in synaptic, you get access to all the packages in Debian (about 17,000) rebuilt for Ubuntu - so they'll all work.01:27
kbrooksSeveas, that doesnt make sense (on C compiler not in the package set). why isnt it in there?01:27
QMarioIs kemik here?01:27
grgcsmcwhat is the line of code to install it?01:27
SeveasTrashcan, in fact, lots of packages in Ubuntu are simply apt-get source from debian and debuild :)01:27
ccookeTrashcan: ah, yes. You should have no trouble there.01:27
phreak_SuperSonix: arn't you in Canada?01:27
Trashcanhehe- nice01:27
jackelFirefox crashes everytime i try to view a embedded video or audio and i have all the plugins installed, Anyone know how to fix it? Im running on the 64 bit version01:27
ccookeTrashcan: debs are very easy to work with.01:27
QMarioHello Seveas!!! :)01:27
Seveaskbrooks, normal users don't need it01:27
jimmyyyyyygrgcsmcdpkg -i whatever.deb01:27
jimmyyyyyygrgcsmc: dpkg -i whatever.deb01:27
Tortelgrgcsmc: sudo dpkg -i {package} if its in your home directory01:27
phreak_Jackel: i'm on the 64bit version too01:27
Seveasit's on the cd though, dead-easy to install01:27
kbrooksSeveas, ok01:27
grgcsmcok01:27
Tortel:P01:27
jackelphreak, you having the same problem?01:27
phreak_Jackel: try this link http://fridge.ubuntu.com/files/jeff-waugh-on-la-update.ogg01:27
StricklinRight now, I have no cable because I spend 4 nights a week in motel/hotel rooms, so paying $40 a month for something I watch less than 40 hours a month seems pointless.01:28
phreak_if that works tell me01:28
boxerboy29kbrooks: dvd is not offered for breezy but it is offered for hoary01:28
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QMarioI know I've asked this question several times, but how do I export the Java Classpath?01:28
kbrooksslow setupp ...01:28
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SeveasQMario, export CLASSPATH=/path/part/1:/part/2:$CLASSPATH01:28
jackelphreak, all i hear is audio01:28
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sarkielo01:28
phreak_Jackel, thats all it is01:28
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phreak_mine stops after a few seconds though01:28
jackelphreak, any idea why firefox is crashing then?01:28
yawgmoth7i cant compile the sound card drivers though............because it says it needs gcc 3.4, nad i have 4.0.201:29
QMarioSeveas, what does "part" represent?01:29
yawgmoth7And i tried installing the 3.4 package01:29
oxezyawgmoth7: apt-get install gcc-3.401:29
yawgmoth7but it still cant find it01:29
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jackelphreak, mine stops after a few seconds as well01:29
phreak_Jackel: I'm having stability problems with the 64 bit build (not as bad as windows 64 bit, thats like alpha grade buggy)01:29
oxezyawgmoth7: you can try: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 , then compile your thing01:29
Seveasyawgmoth7, apt-get intall gcc-3.401:29
jackelphreak, so its not just me?01:29
Seveasexport CC=gcc-3.401:29
phreak_i'm thinking of downgradeing to a SMB kernel (are you running a athlon 64 X2 or just 64?01:29
sarkiehi im trying to get quake3 to work, and it says I need OSS i have the file but i cant seem to install it01:29
grgcsmcthe code didnt work01:29
grgcsmccan some1 pm me?01:30
D1breezy here I come!01:30
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jackelphreak, im running athlon 64 3000 venic01:30
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jaredhmmph01:30
phreak_Jackel: are you having problems installing packages, having dependecy issues?01:30
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SeveasAlexMBas, turn off that script NOW01:30
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jackelphreak, No, not really01:30
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phreak_I think the 64 bit packages still arn't quite ready for mass usage, (although what works is fast)01:30
Cashelrehowdies... thanks for the help before qzerty01:30
jaredthe "install linux dc++ (the easy way)" thread is gone from ubuntuforums.org01:30
jackelphreak, i was able to install all my players just fine01:30
grgcsmccan some1 pm me?01:30
phreak_I cna't install KDE01:30
jackelphreak, and all my other programs and updates01:30
Riddellphreak_: what's the problem?01:31
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sarkiewoops01:31
jackelphreak, What about oepra?01:31
jackelopera*01:31
phreak_Evolution exchange is broken01:31
phreak_i uninstalled the package, and now i'm getting depenency issues trying to reinstall it01:31
jackeldamn01:31
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Seveasphreak_, then your sources.list is broken01:31
natedoggE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame01:32
natedogg01:32
phreak_hmmm, there is a clean one in the wiki isn't there?01:32
tristanmikeI keep getting disconnected from my msn account when using Gaim, is this an issue others have?01:32
natedogghow do I fix this?01:32
Seveasnatedogg, enable multiverse01:32
natedogghowso?01:32
Seveastristanmike, msn is flaky today01:32
tristanmikeand yesterday too?01:32
sarkieedit sources list natedogg01:32
Seveas!tell phreak_ about sources01:32
sarkieremove the #'s01:32
Seveas!tell natedogg about sources01:32
natedoggadd multiverse to lines in sources.list?01:32
jackelphreak, is there an alternative to making the embedded videos work?01:32
natedoggwhat would the context be to add it?01:33
sorush20how do I add a ubuntu wiki page..01:33
phreak_Jackel, well KDE has some nice embedded video in Konquer01:33
none_-yes, konqueror plays embedded videos nicely01:34
jackelphreak, so i would have to switch over from Gnome?01:34
phreak_I can't install KDE, Seavas thinks my source are foobarred, but i can still install plenty of stuff, its just a selective problem01:34
phreak_well, not technicaly01:34
Riddellphreak_: what happens when you try to install KDE?01:34
phreak_Jackel: if you have em both installed you can run either (i belive you take a preformance hit)01:34
jackelphreak, can i just install konqueror or is there some tweaking?01:34
jackelphreak, oh01:34
QMarioSeveas, Java still can't find my classes.01:35
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phreak_Jackel: KDE is more media friendly in general01:35
SeveasQMario, then give it a compass and a map :)01:35
naliothQMario: you used the sun java deb?01:35
QMarioSeveas, good one. :)01:35
QMarioNalioth, yes.01:35
Enzietwhere does one get javac?01:35
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QMario!Java01:35
uboturumour has it, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java01:35
Casheljared, http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:QfkQNyKKAP0J:www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D40467%26goto%3Dnextoldest+linux+dc%2B%2B+the+easy+way&hl=en&client=firefox01:36
jackelphreak, so would be switching over to like Kubuntu be good or something like Mephis?01:36
kennethlovejava = coffee, yo.01:36
phreak_ Depends: kdebase-kio-plugins but it is not going to be installed01:36
phreak_ Depends: konqueror but it is not going to be installed01:36
naliothQMario: you dont have any of that nasssty gnu java installed, do you?01:36
naliothphreak_: dont paste in here please01:36
boxerboy29phreak_: can you install the kubuntu-desktop from synaptic?01:36
natedoggI added the "multiverse" to the end of the last 2 lines in sources.list and it still did not work.01:37
natedoggany suggestoins?01:37
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boxerboy29natedogg: did you apt-get update01:37
natedoggI have done it01:37
QMarioNalioth, no.01:37
natedoggbut not since i added multiverse01:37
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boxerboy29after changing sources lists u have to do that01:38
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jackelphreak, would switching over to kubuntu be better since i am going to use linux mainly for media and web surfing?01:38
boxerboy29that way it updates the sources lists01:38
yawgmoth7Would anybody mind taking a look at the erros from when i use "make install" while compiling the soundcard driver(Its kinda long)01:38
jackelor someother KDE distro?01:38
QMarioNalioth, what should I do? ;)01:38
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PeerSoft I looked @ the info center on kubuntu.. and it says my modems an unknown device - but it does read it ;x01:38
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naliothQMario: not sure. i've assumed that the java deb makes all links necessary01:39
CashelPeerSoft, make a /dev/modem symlink, worked for me when I had dialup01:39
PeerSofthow do i do that?01:39
QMarioNalioth, should I just re-install Java?01:39
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CashelPeerSoft, sudo  /dev/?!?!? /dev/modem   ?!?!? being the actual device01:39
Cashelerrr01:39
CashelPeerSoft, sudo ln -s /dev/?!?!? /dev/modem   ?!?!? being the actual device01:40
QMarioPeerSoft, you could always ask in #KUBUNTU. :)01:40
lightsourceWhich version linux distro do I choose off of VLC's website to use for VLC?01:40
erirlarhi, how do i remove a folder in terminal?01:40
jackelIf i use linux for media mainly should i stick with Gnome or move to KDE?01:40
Casheldamn insert key..01:40
lightsourceWhich version linux distro do I choose off of VLC's website to use for Ubuntu?01:40
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QMariorm -r01:40
Cashelerirlar, rm -R /directory01:40
PeerSoftyea but.. they dont help me01:40
PeerSoftlol01:40
erirlarthanks01:40
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qzertylightsource: apt-get install vlc.01:40
imterrocan anyone help, im having trouble playing video on ubuntu01:40
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QMarioHello nick_!!! :)01:40
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Casheljack-, I dont see whats wrong w/ gnome for video...01:40
Cashelimterro, what kind of video?01:41
natedoggI updated01:41
natedoggand it still cannot find package01:41
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naliothlightsource: vlc is available using apt-get01:41
Kirschyo guys, so Breezy isn't ready yet for 64bit? it broke my friends machine01:41
Kirschit won't start GDM and the network cards are down01:41
lightsourceE: Couldn't find package vlc01:41
KirschHoary was working fine01:41
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naliothubotu: tell lightsource about sources01:41
boxerboy29kirsch: breezy isnt ready for anything until the 13th01:41
boxerboy29in the sence that it is beta still01:41
phreak_Cashel: Badger for 64 has some video issues01:41
naliothlightsource: you need to get all the repos enabled to have the most fun01:41
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Cashelam I going to have to reinstall on the 13th or will updates work ok?01:42
Enziethow do i get the fakeroot command to work01:42
oxezOkay I tried many things, but I still can't ping '192.168.1.116' computer on my ubuntu box. I went on that computer, opened a ssh to my box and tried it, it worked! But when I'm in  front of the screen, with gnome-terminal for example it doesn't work. That's pretty weird.. any ideas?01:42
boxerboy29natedogg: what package and where are you looking?01:42
QMarioNalioth, should I install the java2-common package?01:42
imterroCashel, umm .avi pretty much anything i download01:42
naliothCashel: you'll never have to "resinstall" again01:42
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phreak_i'm runnning 64 bit, its 10 times more stable than Windows 64, but still isn't quite where it needs to be01:42
PeerSoftso i do subo ln -s dev/<whatever the info center says my modem is>/modem ?01:42
natedoggI am looking for gstreamer0.8-lame01:42
naliothQMario: i have found that having gnu java and the sun one confuses the system.01:42
natedogg.gstreamer0.8-lame is the mp3 codec correct01:43
naliothnatedogg: -mad is the one you seek01:43
QMarioNalioth, so should I remove the java-common package?01:43
natedoggoh mad01:44
naliothQMario: as i pointed out. i find that the gnu stuff confuses the sun01:44
boxerboy29natedogg: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame01:44
Cashelnatedogg, its in the breezy repositories it looks like01:44
naliothQMario: try removing all your gnu java stuff and reinstalling the sun deb01:44
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QMarioNalioth, what about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions?01:44
natedoggI tried that boxer01:44
boxerboy29it should install 2 packages01:44
kbrooksbrb.01:44
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natedoggit says01:44
natedoggE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame01:44
mister_robotonalioth: what are the gnu java packages? is there a single package name you can remove?01:45
Cashelnatedogg, go into synaptic and make sure you have all the repositories on, multiverse universe, etc01:45
concept10Is the mozilla-mplayer plugin not avail or packaged for breezy?01:45
QMarioNalioth, I don't want to argue with you, but the website says to install the java-common package. :'(01:45
natedoggcashel: how di i get to synaptic01:45
naliothQMario: the debs referenced in ubotu are the same01:45
imterroi searched the guide but when i try to download the packages they tell me to... i cant because it tells me that the package is missing01:45
none_-concept10, it's there but not called that01:45
boxerboy29natedogg: you have breezy? and what repos do you have set?01:45
naliothubotu: tell natedogg about synaptic01:45
Yawgmoth7it doset make any sense that the make file would have nothing but errors01:45
Cashelnatedogg, you have a working X windows?01:45
concept10none_-, called?01:45
QMarioNalioth, debs?01:45
natedoggI don't know, i'm using GNOME01:45
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boxerboy29gnome=xwindow01:46
Cashelnatedogg, good, go System > Administration > Syanptic01:46
natedoggah, thanks01:46
naliothQMario: if you're building the package01:46
none_-concept10, i take that back.. the name is the same01:46
none_-and it's there01:46
naliothnatedogg: ubotu sent you a msg01:46
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QMarioNalioth, so I should delete it.01:46
imterrois anyone wlling to help?01:46
QMario?01:46
natedoggok01:46
natedoggi'm in synaptic01:46
concept10none_-, the deps are missing, what repo are you getting it from?01:46
naliothQMario: try removing all your java, then reinstalling the sun deb01:47
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QMarioHere I go.01:47
imterrothe .za one?01:47
boxerboy29search for gstreamer0.8-lame01:47
imterroil make sure now01:47
none_-http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse01:47
Cashelnatedogg, Settings > Repositories01:47
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vitriolif i need to do 'hdparm -d1 -X34 /dev/hdc' is there an init script for such a thing?01:47
concept10none_-, sorry, I found it01:47
imterrohttp://za.archive.ubuntu.com01:47
none_-:)01:47
imterronone_-, i tried doing that01:47
vitrioli want that command run everytime i boot, basically01:47
D1/etc/hdparm.conf I believe01:47
vitriolthank you01:47
Yawgmoth7It has to be something that im doing wrong, because ive compiled this sound driver before, but when i run sudo make install it comes up with almost every sings line a error01:47
Cashelnatedogg, if your not worried about open source, etc, go ahead and Add for everything01:47
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none_-imterro, it works fine for me. try apt-get update01:48
natedoggok in respitories01:48
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imterrohmm i think its because im using the .za and you are usin the .us01:48
concept10vitriol, -X34 means?  im curious01:48
QMarioNalioth, so I should also delete the java-package package, right?01:48
natedoggis there a way to d them all at once01:48
natedoggadd01:48
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none_-imterro, i'm not sure which is the master server01:48
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QMarioUbotu, apt-search java-package.01:48
ubotuQMario: Are you smoking crack?01:48
phreak_wow, i just ran vncviewer on myself01:48
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QMario!search01:49
ubotuI heard search is System>Administration>Synaptic, has a search function. Command line are apt-cache search "packagename", or aptitude search "packagename"01:49
naliothQMario: you can always add it back later, if you desire01:49
vitriolconcept10: i don't remember.... i just know that this is what 'xine-check' suggested for my dvds to run at a reasonable speed01:49
jimmyyyyyyyyQMario check the ubuntuguide01:49
dozeranyone know how to view mpeg files in ubuntu?  I have searched and tried everything i could find so far01:49
QMario!Ubuntuguide01:49
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.01:49
sorush20how do I start the k personalize01:49
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concept10vitriol, thanks, i need to add that too...01:49
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imterroE: Package totem-xine has no installation candidate01:49
jimmyyyyyyyydozer: try mplayer or vlc or xione01:49
natedoggI click the thing then click add01:49
boxerboy29natedogg: do you see check marks to left of repos?01:49
ObsidianXwhats the ubuntu package for the JRE/JDK01:49
jimmyyyyyyyydozer: try mplayer or vlc or xine01:49
natedoggit shows a popup01:49
Cashelnatedogg, once you have multiverse and universe turned on for each repository (or add repositories you dont have) it will reload them, you should be able to find gstreamer in there or just got the apt-get install bit again...01:50
QMarioJimmyyyyyyyy, the reason why I don't check the ubuntuguide. ;)01:50
natedoggok cool01:50
naliothubotu: tell ObsidianX about javadeb01:50
naliothObsidianX: ubotu has sent you a msg01:50
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jimmyyyyyyyyQMario: I did it and it didn't break my box yet :D01:50
lancellorhey guys how do i make gdesklets to start when the computer starts???01:50
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ObsidianXnalioth: thanks01:50
kbrooksgRRR.01:50
naliothlancellor: system > prefs > sessions01:50
kbrooksGrrrr. *01:50
kbrooksnalioth: are you there?01:51
jimmyyyyyyyyQMario: I actually find it a quite usefull resource to complete noobs01:51
naliothkbrooks: we imitating different life-forms?01:51
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jimmyyyyyyyyQMario: Or people who are looking for extra apt repos01:51
kbrooksnalioth: finally. long time no see01:51
naliothjimmyyyyyyyy: it may seem like a great resource. until it kills off your box01:51
lancellorletme try01:51
QMarioJimmyyyyyyyy, hee.01:51
dozeranyone know when the new ubuntu is coming out?01:51
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natedoggIT wont let me click the universe/mulitverse for osme of them01:51
phreak_Cashel: I can't install anything for KDE, wine, or re-install evolution, apt is seriously foobared on 64bit01:51
naliothkbrooks: i've spoken to you lately01:51
Enzietis there a standard dc++ client that i can use apt-get to find01:51
Casheldozer, the 13th01:51
kbrooksdozer, october 1301:51
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kbrooksnalioth, yes, i know. i'm back from arch. ;)01:52
jimmyyyyyyyynalioth and QMario: I'd love to see it kill a box!01:52
Cashelphreak_, dunno dude, dont have a 64 bit machine...01:52
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naliothjimmyyyyyyyy: then use it exclusively for all your answers01:52
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X3N_phreak_, works find here01:52
dozernice thanks for all the info - so far ubuntu is the best linux distro I have used  they even sent me 10 cd's of it in the mail free of charge. suck on that fedora01:52
jimmyyyyyyyynalioth and QMario: All i use it for is apt repos01:52
boxerboy29natedogg: click settings and click the empty boxes in settings01:52
butterfly_is there a way to find out who's logged into a system if I ssh in as root?01:52
cafuego_phreak_: Seems to all work fine here. Well, not KDE, but apt.01:52
naliothjimmyyyyyyyy: then you wont wait long01:52
kbrookson hoary atm01:52
DapperDrakebutterfly_: whois or w01:52
DapperDrakewho or w I mean01:52
cafuego_butterfly_: Of course. 'w'.01:53
cafuego_butterfly_: ot 'users'01:53
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phreak_i keep getting "depends, but not going to be installed", it can't resolve any dependencies01:53
jimmyyyyyyyynalioth and QMario: what questions in there will kill your box, other then the "HOWTO rm -r /*"01:53
butterfly_LOL nm .. I just realized what I wanted to ask but what I asked instead <smack head on the desk>01:53
cafuego_Though if a users runs 'screen' he can remove himself from those lists.01:53
butterfly_thank u :)01:53
phreak_if someone wants to VNC my box their welcome too :)01:53
X3N_what version of ubuntu are you using phreak_01:53
naliothjimmyyyyyyyy: the apt resources will bring your box to a grinding halt01:53
phreak_Badger i belive01:53
Cashelnatedogg, got it now?01:54
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naliothubotu: tell jimmyyyyyyyy about sources01:54
jimmyyyyyyyynalioth:backports will01:54
phreak_nope, hedgehog01:54
phreak_hmmmm, maybe thats it01:54
cafuego_phreak_: You on breezy/ yeah, it's not stable, so that happens. Put up with it until it's released.01:54
naliothjimmyyyyyyyy: those sources are the ones you should have01:54
QMarioHello Cafuego_!!! :)01:54
phreak_5.0401:54
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naliothjimmyyyyyyyy: backports are official now. mirrormax should not be used01:54
jackelcrappy firefox01:54
X3N_oh01:54
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cafuego_phreak_: Ah, got hoary-extras enabled?01:54
Cashelhave fun folks01:54
Seveasnalioth, mirrormax cannot be used anymore01:54
kennethlovewhat's unstable about breezy? used it for a week here with no problems.01:54
cafuego_phreak_: and hoary-backports?01:54
Seveasit's removed :)01:55
kbrooksI wonder why x.0 releases are usually not stable?01:55
QMarioNalioth, okay. I re-installed Java, but it still can't find my archives. :'(01:55
jimmyyyyyyyythanks for telling me that i was noticing mirrormax was down a lot01:55
phreak_Universe, and multiverse01:55
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X3N_you may need multiverse as well phreak_01:55
jimmyyyyyyyynalioth thanks for telling me that i was noticing mirrormax was down a lot01:55
naliothSeveas: yes, that's what i said01:55
cafuego_kennethlove: Various things, broken depeneds, beagle seems completely busted.01:55
phreak_and Wine's depo01:55
naliothjimmyyyyyyyy: there are other things there that are not desirable01:55
kennethlovecafuego_: i haven't noticed any problems with depends or beagle.01:55
cafuego_phreak_: Disable all non-official ones, then try to update again.01:55
cafuego_kennethlove: I have.01:55
cefanyone installed breezy direct from cd/net on a blank partition? do you have a file called /etc/debian_version on your system?01:55
jimmyyyyyyyynalioth: example...?01:55
naliothjimmyyyyyyyy: make your sources official and hope it's not too late01:55
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cafuego_Unhandled Exception: System.DllNotFoundException: glibsharpglue01:56
kennethlovecafuego_: did you upgrade or clean install?01:56
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natedoggE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:56
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natedoggthats what i get01:56
tonkardo you recommend me some antivirus for my ubuntu?01:56
natedoggwhen i try to install01:56
kbrooksnatedogg, another program.01:56
natedoggeh?01:56
tonkaror it is not necesary?01:56
cafuego_kennethlove: I've been on breezy for _months_.01:56
kbrooksnatedogg, run lsof apt-get01:56
naliothtonkar: why? there are no known viruses01:56
qzertythen some other program is using libapt too01:56
gorillatonkar, it's not neccessary :-)01:56
_jasonIs there anyway to communicate with other useres ssh'd into the same box?01:56
kennethlovetonkar: a good firewall setup and don't open any stupid emails.01:56
natedoggwoot think its working!01:56
natedoggits reading the database01:56
phreak_Cafuego: still getting the same errors01:57
kennethlovecafuego_: well aren't you special. :)01:57
X3N_ubuntu breezy won't install on 64mb of ram will it ?01:57
cafuego_kennethlove: You'd be amazed.01:57
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qzertyX3N_: no.01:57
cafuego_X3N_: Yes it will, but you don't want to it to run Gnome. Do a 'server' install, then add X later.01:57
gorillakennethlove, even if you do what's going to happen? not much in my opionion.01:57
naliothtonkar: firewalls are unnecessary in default ubuntu. and read all the mail you like01:57
X3N_i was considering that01:57
X3N_cafuego, you tried this then ?01:57
kennethlovegorilla: yeah, but best to be smart from the get-go. :) then you're safe no matter what system you're on.01:57
jimmyyyyyyyynalioth: I don't care if my repo's are official, as long as they have the packages I want (even if they're trojan ridden :D)01:57
cafuego_X3N_: Something like fluxbox or openbox will run fine.01:57
balrog-kunhow would you run telnetd on ubuntu?01:58
gorilla_jason, try wall :-)01:58
jackelwhy does firefox suck so bad at playing embedded video?01:58
kbrooksjimmyyyyyyyy, You don't care?!/?01:58
tonkarok .... tnaks01:58
jimmyyyyyyyykbooks: note the :D01:58
jimmyyyyyyyykbrooks: note the :D01:58
X3N_jackel, because embedded stuff is 3rd party and nothing to do with them really01:58
phreak_Cauego, you want to VNC, and look at it real fast?01:58
naliothjimmyyyyyyyy: trojans are not the problem. you will soon be against an upgrade wall, and won't be able to return.  reinstallation will have to take place01:58
concept10Is there a evince plugin for mozilla/firefox?01:58
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cafuego_X3N_: I tried running GNome in 128MB ram ... ouchies.01:58
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jackelX3N, firefox crashes when trying to display them though01:58
jimmyyyyyyyynalioth: I was just kidding I was using trojan ridden as an example01:59
kbrooksnalioth, am i on ignore?01:59
lightsourcehow do I install all the plugins I.E. Flash, Quicktime??01:59
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jimmyyyyyyyynalioth: I've slammed the upgrade wall a few times not01:59
jimmyyyyyyyynalioth: now01:59
kbrooksnalioth, why arent you talking to me? ;)01:59
X3N_jackel, probably because the plugins are written baddly then01:59
lightsourceHow do I install all the plugins I.E. Flash, Quicktime For Mozilla Firefox??01:59
naliothkbrooks: nope, just lost in the colors01:59
kbrooksnalioth, what is a "upgrade wall"?01:59
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jackelX3N, hmm then how would i be able to view them then?01:59
phreak_o well, i'm going to install the 32bit and see if it will fix a lota this :)01:59
kbrookslightsource, you don't want quicktime01:59
cafuego_nalioth has been taking Quaaludes again, he's seeing colours everywhere.01:59
lightsource#kbroos02:00
lightsourceoops02:00
jimmyyyyyyyynalioth: A point where you can't upgrade because all your packages are different confilicting version02:00
shiviI need help with dvd playback. After installing and upgrading ubuntu none have worked, can't even run mpeg file02:00
naliothkbrooks: it's where you cant upgrade b/c you use non official repos and the pkgs are so different02:00
lightsourcekbrooks: I wanted it to see certian things on the ineternet02:00
_jasongorilla:  thanks02:00
kbrooksnalioth, versions?02:00
oxezappears my ubuntu machine doesnt detect the other computers on the network.. I turned off all the firewalls, and all my computers have the same workgroup. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong again?02:00
Enzietwhere is the bzlib devel package?02:00
jimmyyyyyyyyright now it's impossible to upgrade "mozilla-firefox"02:00
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X3N_jackel, what kind of file format is it trying to play ?02:00
phreak_oxez, my netowkr browser isn't working either02:01
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silent_screamhi to all02:01
naliothkbrooks: if you use nonofficial repos, no thought is put into ubuntu upgrade compatibility02:01
cafuego_Enziet: Do you know how the search function in synaptic works?02:01
jackelX3N, any kind of embedded file02:01
oxezphreak_: ok. I badly need to fix this to be able to print my source codes for college02:01
jackelX3N, I have all the plugins installed as well02:01
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oxezphreak_: if I fix this I'll let you know02:01
jimmyyyyyyyynalioth: where's the list of official repos?02:01
Enzietcafuego_: no02:01
silent_screamdoes everyone know about eagle usb project? i have aprob02:02
naliothjimmyyyyyyyy: ubotu sent you a PM02:02
X3N_most videos i just go to the page source, find the actual file location . e.g http://blablabla.com/blabla.wmv and play it in something like mplayer or gxine or vlc02:02
shivihow do i get02:02
shivilibdvdcss202:02
jimmyyyyyyyynalioth: I told him STFU :D02:02
natedoggW: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908) breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/ap02:02
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natedoggwhat's that mean02:02
shiviwhat repository for libdvdcss2?02:02
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cafuego_Enziet: Start synaptic, click 'search' and put in 'libbz'02:03
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jackelX3N, no error just all the windows close02:03
naliothubotu: tell jimmyyyyyyyy about sources02:03
naliothubotu: tell shivi about dvd02:03
jimmyyyyyyyyubot: tell ubot to STFU02:03
natedogganyone?02:03
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X3N_doh partioner is segfaulting now02:03
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kbrooksjimmyyyyyyyy, that kind of language is not tolerated in here.02:03
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naliothjimmyyyyyyyy: yes, be civil please. the bot is a very good info source02:04
_jasonnatedogg:  I think i got something similar in Hoary and I jsut removed cdrom from my repo list in Synaptic... don't know if your prob is the same02:04
jimmyyyyyyyykbrooks: are you a mod: If you are, ok i'll be good. If not: STFU02:04
jimmyyyyyyyy:D02:04
kbrooksuh oh.02:04
cafuego_jimmyyyyyyyy: Last warning.02:04
Lord_MaynothLOL02:04
Lord_Maynothhey jimmy02:05
Lord_Maynothwanna get banned02:05
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Lord_Maynothsay you like autopackage02:05
Lord_MaynothLOL02:05
silent_screamdoes everyone know about eagle usb project? i have a prob with my sagem fast 800 adsl modem02:05
yawgmoth7After following: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21097.html02:05
jimmyyyyyyyycafuego: i've been banned 10 mins prior to this02:05
kbrooksLord_Maynoth, dont scare him away02:05
yawgmoth7I did that02:05
yawgmoth7then rebooted02:05
naliothjimmyyyyyyyy: weren't you shown the door earlier for something?02:05
yawgmoth7And tyoed02:05
yawgmoth7typed*02:05
yawgmoth7alsamixer02:05
jimmyyyyyyyycafuego_: yes i was02:05
yawgmoth7And got this error02:05
jimmyyyyyyyycafuego_: now it's something different02:05
cafuego_jimmyyyyyyyy: You telling me you're just here to troll, then? Any reason you need to not be banned for good?02:05
yawgmoth7alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory02:05
StricklinHow do I ensure Thunderbird is my default mail program?02:05
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jimmyyyyyyyycafuego_: I was banned for good :D02:06
cafuego_!ops02:06
ubotuwell, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth02:06
naliothStricklin: system > prefs > preferred apps02:06
jimmyyyyyyyycafuego_: I changed my nick and used my dynamic ip02:06
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cafuego_jimmy is evading a ban.02:06
jimmyyyyyyyycafuego_: Tada02:06
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phreak_wow, it a script kiddie who can change mac adresses and change IP's, he's a special one....02:06
Lord_Maynoththe fastest way to get banned in here is to say you like autopackage... go for it jimmy02:06
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kbrooksLord_Maynoth, not true02:06
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Lord_Maynothlol02:06
Lord_Maynothyeah02:06
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Stricklinnalioth, thanks02:06
Lord_Maynothim sure there are faster ways02:06
kbrooksLord_Maynoth, i repeat, its not true02:06
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scribbleswhat would make my sources.list go read only when before I was able to edi tit?02:06
phreak_whats autopackage (hides under rock)02:06
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naliothscribbles: open it using sudo02:07
cafuego_Lord_Maynoth: Yes, saying you like Gentoo will unleach a tactical nuclear strike. Also nice.02:07
durihello, I installed ubuntu on an old PIII with an Intel L440GX+ mobo, I get only 800x600 . what is the equivalent of Xfree86Config on ubuntu with X.org ?02:07
Lord_Maynothabsolutely true02:07
Lord_Maynothkbrooks02:07
Lord_Maynothgive it shot02:07
scribbleshah nalioth: thx a lot man02:07
kbrooksLord_Maynoth, i dont believe you.02:07
cafuego_!tell duri -about fixres02:07
yawgmoth7What do you think is happening when it says: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory02:07
Lord_Maynothi dont give a $%^*02:07
lightsourceHow do I install all the plugins I.E. Flash, Quicktime For Mozilla Firefox??02:07
Lord_Maynothif you dont02:07
Lord_MaynothLOL02:07
kbrooks!ops02:07
ubotuops is, like, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth02:07
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naliothkbrooks: yes?02:08
durithank ubotu02:08
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augustohello02:08
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kbrooksnalioth, Look above at Lord_Maynoth hiding curse words and generally trolling02:08
jimmyyyaactually my router can spoof mac addys if you want02:08
Rylie#ubuntu-offtopic02:08
augustohola alguien que hable castellano porfavor?02:08
lightsourceHow do I install all the plugins I.E. Flash, Quicktime For Mozilla Firefox??02:09
Kyralaugusto, #ubuntu-es02:09
Lord_MaynothLOL02:09
cafuego_jimmyyya: Will you be happy when you whole ISP is banned from the channel?02:09
phreak_ohhh, wow, jimmy, you do realize that you can change it in the registry if your truely 133702:09
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kbrooksjimmyyya, that is illegal and is electronic trespassing02:09
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augusto#ubuntu-es02:09
Kyralsi02:09
phreak_Send an email to his about admin for his isp02:09
phreak_not used to seeing a Canadian troll....02:10
Lord_Maynothkbrooks... how old are you... you remind me of a 5 year old taddle tale  you are doing more to egg on the trolling than anyone else here02:10
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yawgmoth7Canadians fail02:10
tristanmikeok, since msn is so flakey, is there anyway I can add my contacts from msn to any other protocol?02:10
Kyralchimata! Flamewar incoming!02:10
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jimmyyyaok well sorry i sent this channell into flames02:10
kbrooksLord_Maynoth, i refuse to reveal my age with such your attitude.02:10
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Lord_Maynothaha02:11
Lord_Maynoththat explains it02:11
silent_screamdoes everyone know about eagle usb project? i have a prob with my sagem fast 800 adsl modem...02:11
KyralTake it to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM02:11
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benplautor, better yet, just drop it02:11
Kyralnow We don't need this in here. Who agrees with me!02:11
benplautmua!02:11
shepso, is this ubuntu better than my windowsME?02:11
Lord_MaynothYES02:11
jimmyyyaeveryone: I'll drop it if you drop it02:11
Lord_Maynothlol me is horrible02:12
benplauteveryone has dropped it02:12
Lord_Maynothwindows ME02:12
Kyralshep, ANYTHING is better than WindowsMe (also known as Windows Hell)02:12
Lord_Maynoththat is02:12
shepi was kidding02:12
Lord_MaynothLOL02:12
jimmyyyaeveryone: And please nothing to my isp :D02:12
shepi came in hoping for some entertainment02:12
shepi heard a flame war was starting02:12
benplautshep: kinda02:12
jimmyyyashep: it was02:12
naliothshep: yes in #ubuntu-offtopic02:12
jimmyyyashep: I started it02:12
jimmyyyashep: :D02:12
Lord_Maynothonly because of the 5 year old taddle tales who like to egg on flames02:12
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Lord_Maynoth*rolls eyes*02:13
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tristanmikecan I please get some help with gaim02:13
KyralJeez, Lord_Maynoth cut it out02:13
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naliothLord_Maynoth: jimmyyya Kyral kbrooks y'all take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please02:13
jimmyyyaOk Lord_Maynoth just drop it!02:13
Kyralja ja nalioth02:13
Kyralsorry02:13
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factotumis it normal to have to reinstall nvidia drivers every kernel update? Every time i get an update that has to do with the kernel I have to go into my xorg.config and change "nvidia" to "nv" to get x to load until I reinstall the nvidia drivers02:13
KyralWas just trying to crowd control w/o going BOFH on people02:13
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Kyralfactotum, if you are using Breezy, yes02:14
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factotumnope, hoary02:14
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Kyralwhen the hell is the nvidia-glx package gonna get fixed02:14
Kyraleh? Then I dunno02:14
cafuego_factotum: No, it should not revert back to 'nv'.02:14
deflux-Anyone here familiar with the ubuntu ppc port?02:14
kbrooksnalioth, i'm dropping it now02:14
jimmyyyakbrooks: would you seriously send an email to my isp?02:14
cafuego_deflux-: yep02:14
naliothdeflux-: yes we run ppc here02:14
deflux-Trying to figure out how to configure the new world boot partition to list my MacOS X as an OS choice.02:14
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Kyralunless you compiled it from scratch02:14
factotumit doesnt revert back to "nv" I have to do it myself to get x to load02:14
deflux-It only listed CD-ROM and Ubuntu after install.02:14
naliothjimmyyya: kbrooks y'all discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic02:15
Kyraland didn't use the nvidia-glx package02:15
deflux-but my mac os x partition is still there and loaded with os x.02:15
lightsourceWhere do I get themes for Ubuntu 5.0402:15
pulverhey! how do you change the wm in gnome?02:15
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naliothubotu: tell deflux- about sources02:15
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jimmyyyaok... I'll use pm...02:15
kbrooksjimmyyya, I don't take pms. sorry.02:15
cafuego_deflux-: add a line saying 'macosx=/dev/hda3' in /etc/yaboot.conf02:15
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cafuego_deflux-: where hda3 is your OSX partition. Then run 'ybin'.02:16
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jimmyyyakbooks: that threat was the most effective on me actually :D02:16
deflux-cafuego: Thanks.  Do I run fdisk for a list of partitions or is there a diff tool for ppc platforms?02:16
BabbageI have a possibly kernel-related problem.  If I boot linux-image-2.6.10-5-386, everything is OK.  If I boot linux-image-2.6.11-1-386, everything hangs in X.  I have an IBM Thinkpad T43p.  Any ideas/suggestions?02:16
shiviwhat is the URL for extras as backports are not working02:16
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naliothubotu: tell shivi about backports02:17
gorilladeflux-, no... you run fdisk on the physical drive.. fidks /dev/hda for exmaple02:17
naliothdeflux-: that's "sudo ybin"02:17
jimmyyyawhat else can ubotu do?02:17
kbrooksfdisk -l02:18
kbrooksis the correct way.02:18
Babbagegorilla, deflux- : specifically "fdisk -l",02:18
deflux-looks good.02:18
deflux-:)02:18
deflux-Thanks....ubuntu is probably the linux distro I can live with.  :)02:18
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deflux-And I'm a FreeBSD user.  Har.02:18
PassionLimwow. :)02:19
jimmyyyanalioth: what else can ubotu do?02:19
Lord_Maynothxandros is not so bad either02:19
naliothjimmyyya: ask him02:19
Lord_MaynothI wish ubuntu automounted windows drives by default02:19
deflux-time to check my dual-boot.02:19
Lord_Maynothlike xandros02:19
jimmyyyaubotu: can you do any tricks :D02:19
ubotujimmyyya: I don't know, could you explain it?02:19
naliothubotu: tell Lord_Maynoth about windowsdrives02:19
jimmyyyaubotu: jump up and down and rollover02:20
ubotujimmyyya: Did you get hit by a windmill?02:20
Lord_Maynothyeah but by default02:20
PassionLimWhen i write academic paper, what program in ubuntu is useful for me?02:20
Lord_Maynothyou can do anything with ubuntu02:20
jimmyyyaubotu: how did you know?02:20
ubotujimmyyya: Not a clue02:20
Lord_Maynothbut it takes 5 hours of research to find out how02:20
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jimmyyyaubotu: help02:20
SeveasPassionLim, vim+pdflatex02:20
Lord_Maynoth;)02:20
PassionLimI'm just using OpenOffice.02:20
lightsourceDoes anyone here know how to change the icon for a folder and make ALL of them look the same?02:21
UBUEThow i find  my ntfs drives from ubuntu02:21
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jimmyyyaubotu: slashdot02:21
SeveasUBUET, breezy or hoary?02:21
naliothubotu: tell UBUET about ntfs02:21
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gorillaPassionLim, laTex is not word processing.. . wordprocessors drives me nuts after about 70 pages.02:21
Lord_Maynothsooo02:21
jimmyyyaubotu: tell me about irc02:21
Lord_MaynothI have an interesting topic02:21
Lord_Maynothabout how microsoft plans to kill linux02:22
kbrooksGo on, Lord_Maynoth.02:22
Seveasjimmy_, do not play with the bot02:22
Seveasjimmyyya*02:22
kbrooksUh-oh.02:22
naliothLord_Maynoth: in #ubuntu-offtopic please with your stories02:22
Lord_Maynothby ingegrating trusted computing modules into every pc motherboard02:22
jimmyyyasorry02:22
Lord_Maynothguess i cant talk about that in here02:22
Lord_Maynothsry02:22
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SeveasLord_Maynoth, -> #ubuntu-offtopic, or better #FUD02:22
PassionLimOk.. I'd better read the manual of laTex :)02:22
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kbrooksnalioth, it's half true. Microsoft doesnt plan to kill Linux by doing that.02:22
gorillaLord_Maynoth, yep that has been discussed.. but take it to ubuntu-offtopic :-)02:23
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Lord_Maynothall ready did02:23
PassionLimCan you recommend useful site to study laTex?02:23
kbrooksnow to talk ubuntu.02:23
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SeveasPassionLim, www.google.com/search?q=lshort.pdf02:23
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PassionLimThanks~!02:23
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Seveasthat'll give you a good intro02:23
Seveasapt-get install lshort may work too02:24
sorush20I have problems restarting the hotplug system can someone help .. it just crashes..02:24
Rylieim back02:24
gorillaPassionLim, note that lacheck (a syntax checker for LaTex) doesnt' agree with pdflatex at times.02:24
benplautif buying a new computer, are ATI drivers good enough yet to consider having one of their cards?02:24
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benplautor do they still suck?02:24
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hondjeati suck02:24
javmarlatsaludos02:24
Seveaswell spoken, hondje :)02:25
javmarlatestoy intentando instalar una ditro de debian para un servidor02:25
hondjeI'm known for my eloquence02:25
nalioth!es02:25
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:25
StricklinWhat do most people use for website authoring? I used to use Dreamweaver because it saved to the remote site and auto-hinted code as I wrote.02:25
kbrooksI love Nvidia02:25
javmarlatsorry02:25
naliothStricklin: text or wsyiwyg?02:25
sorush20how do I find out if the kernel likes my system configuration..02:25
SeveasStricklin, vim :)02:25
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StricklinI'm more of a text guy02:25
hondjesorush20: ask it?02:25
Seveassorush20, by trying it?02:25
none_-sorush20, what do you mean?02:25
TokenBadhmm..why they make the scripts for xchat so hard to figure out02:25
naliothStricklin: Seveas points out vim, but bluefish works well02:25
benplauthow about Geforce 6600 256MB vs Geforce 6600 GT 128MB?02:25
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hondje$ Dear `uname`, do you like this setup?02:26
Seveasnalioth, I always point out vim :)02:26
Stricklinvim or bluefish... gotcha02:26
hondjevim is the one true editor02:26
kbrooksnalioth, I do not like bluefish.02:26
none_-vile is better02:26
naliothStricklin: there are many html/css/etc tools available02:26
Seveas!start an editor wart02:26
kbrooksTried it, scrapped it02:26
ubotuSeveas: I don't know02:26
Seveas!start an editor war02:26
ubotugvim is better than emacs02:26
hondjeBy vile clearly you mean emacs02:26
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hondjewhich is, naturally, quite vile :)02:26
none_-oh02:26
sorush20I can't seem to restart the hotplug system.. etc/init.d/hotplug restart freezes.. and nothing happens..02:26
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naliothStricklin: the nice thing about linux is: all the programs are free to use, and you keep using the one you like02:27
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kbrooksnalioth, I like choice. Choice is magical. :)02:27
StricklinYeah, it's just better to ask around and not waste so much time looking.02:27
none_-Stricklin, freshmeat.net02:27
TokenBadbah...stupid perl...02:27
none_-organize searches by vitality02:27
none_-that is a good predictor of the best application for any purpose02:28
naliothStricklin: but it's best to give each one a looksee02:28
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Seveasunfortunately, emacs and bim take more than a looksee to appreciate02:28
TiggsI want to edit the items on my Appications menu, how do i do that?02:28
Seveass/bim/vim/02:28
natedoggHey02:28
StricklinWhat is a kickstart file?02:28
natedoggI don't think my soundcard is putting out any sort of data02:28
none_-nano works fine02:28
kbrooksAny clones of RCT2?02:28
SeveasTiggs, with the application menu editor in aplications -> system tools02:28
natedogghow do I fix this02:28
naliothubotu: tell Tiggs about smeg02:28
SeveasStricklin, something you don't need if you don't know what it is :)02:29
natedoggin the volum control it looks like the soundcard is sletected right02:29
natedoggbut when i try to play a file nothing comes out, and when I boot upand login there is no sound.02:29
Stricklinnow now...02:29
kbrooksRCT2 == RollerCoaster Tycoon 202:29
kbrooksI have a CD with it.02:29
kbrooksfrom a cereal box.02:29
natedogganyone able to help?02:29
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scribbles~/ is the same as /home/<username ?02:29
none_-yes02:30
scribblesthx02:30
kbrooksscribbles, ~/ == $HOME/02:30
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Trashcananyone get ubuntu working under VPC2004?02:30
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natedoggokay so when I login, I get no sound. when I try to play a multimedia file, I get no sound. Anyone able to telll me what's going on?02:30
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natedoggI have installed the multimedia codecs02:30
kbrooksAny ideas of a clone of RCT2?02:30
kbrooksWine doesn't count.02:31
none_-natedogg, what player are you using?02:31
natedoggxmms, rythym box i tried both.02:31
none_-try running alsamixer ?02:31
none_-did you02:31
none_-try this02:31
natedoggI also did chmod 662/dev/dsp and chmod 666 /dev/mixer to try and fix it02:31
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natedoggtry what02:32
none_-killall -15 esd; cat /dev/urandom>/dev/dsp02:32
none_-sudo before that02:32
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none_-sudo killall -15 esd; cat /dev/urandom>/dev/dsp02:32
mkyb14is there a way to upgrade from hoary to breezy through terminal?02:32
naliothmkyb14: see /topic02:33
none_-mkyb14, apt-get dist-upgrade02:33
!lilo:*! Rearranged the FAQ to split out user registration related features into a "User Registration" section. Added a note about NOIDPREFIX to the FAQ on identity spoofing.02:33
mkyb14i did the dist-upgrade02:33
mkyb14so that means i'm at 5.1002:33
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Constanza18r ircchat.terra.cl 700002:33
none_-vi /etc/apt/sources.list then shift+colon then % s/hoary/breezy/02:33
kbrooksmkyb14, cat /etc/issue02:33
naliothmkyb14: type in a terminal "lsb_release -a"02:34
Seveasnone_-, sudo sed -e's/hoary/breezy' -i /etc/apt/sources.list02:34
Seveas:)02:34
kbrooksi have 5.04 nalioth ;)02:34
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none_-mkyb14, or what Seveas saod02:34
Tiggsfailed dependendies with smeg it says i need a newer version of python02:34
none_-said02:34
natedoggI get esd: no process killed when I typed that in, none_-02:34
mkyb14ok says hoary02:34
Tiggsthe synatic says there isnt any newer version02:34
none_-natedogg, that's good02:35
natedoggok ..02:35
mkyb14so i change my sources to...02:35
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none_-now try cat /dev/urandom>/dev/dsp02:35
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naliothmkyb14: see /topic02:35
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mkyb14what's this see /topic02:35
mkyb14doesn't do anything02:35
none_-sudo cat /dev/urandom>/dev/dsp02:35
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jake1:-\... i need a free shell account02:35
kbrooksmkyb14, type /topic02:35
naliothmkyb14: type /topic02:35
none_-"Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes"02:35
mkyb14nothing is popping up when you do that02:35
none_-jake1, there are plenty02:36
jake1preferably one that has IRC02:36
jake1none_- yea i have 4 already02:36
benplautanyone have time to go over this configuration?02:36
benplauthttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/272202:36
jake1i need another one02:36
natedogguh02:36
kbrooksmkyb14, type this and exactly this: '/topic', no quotes02:36
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natedoggnothing is really happening, none-_02:36
nice_guyhi02:36
nice_guyhe;l;;02:36
none_-what happens?02:36
altnameI want to try another distro, what else is worth trying02:36
none_-does it go back to prompt?02:36
nice_guycan u b may cjhat met02:36
altnamecept ubuntu02:36
kbrooksaltname, why??02:37
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natedoggwhat should i do know02:37
natedoggnpow02:37
natedoggnow02:37
naliothaltname: www.distrowatch.com   have fun02:37
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atripathigoodmorning02:37
alkylhi guys02:37
alkyli have a bit of a problem02:37
none_-natedogg, what is happenning?02:37
none_-what did it say?02:37
nice_guyhi02:37
alkylmaybe someone could answer ?02:37
nice_guyhello02:37
atripathianyone using firefox 1.5 beta ?02:37
altnamebecause gnome is kinda slow02:37
nice_guycan u b my chat met02:37
natedoggi didn't say anything02:37
natedoggit02:37
naliothaltname: you have to ask something first02:37
none_-did it go back to username@host ?02:37
altnameI want something faster in desktop terms02:37
alkyli just installed kubuntu, the install never prompted a root password ?02:37
roloThere is a windows application for pdf writing avaiable in ubuntu cd. Forgot its name..any help?02:37
natedoggno02:37
natedoggit idnt02:37
naliothnice_guy: in #ubuntu-offtopic please02:37
none_-hit ctrl+C02:37
alkylwhat is with that ?02:37
nice_guyhi02:37
nice_guyhello\] 02:37
natedoggI did02:37
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natedoggthen i repasted02:37
natedoggand it didnt go back to uer02:38
atripathiwhen someone but root try to fire it up .. it crashes02:38
nice_guycan u b my chat met\02:38
D1anyone using xchat right now?02:38
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alkylDI, no i cant install it02:38
none_-it appears that /dev/dsp is associated with some device02:38
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Seveasnot again...02:38
alkyli dont know the root password?02:38
none_-try running alsamixer02:38
natedogghow do i run that02:38
atripathianyone ?02:38
StricklinI installed vim-gnome, but I don't see it under my applications menu02:38
D1I need to know what the default font it uses....I just installed xchat-gnome from breezy.02:38
none_-type in sudo alsamixer02:38
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none_-in a terminal02:38
Tiggsnalioth, how do i update my python so i can install smeg?02:38
Seveasnone_-, no sudo with alsamixer :)02:38
natedoggok02:39
natedoggits giving me02:39
natedoggmaster02:39
D1by the way, the ubuntu icon replacing the foot looks GREAT02:39
none_-i thought you had to be in the audio group to run alsamixer02:39
natedoggmaster bla02:39
natedogghas my soundcard thing02:39
naliothTiggs: use synaptic or the "installsmeg" script from the smeg homepage02:39
altnameIs there anything new coming as far as linux distros?02:39
altnameany new distros coming?02:39
kbrooksTiggs, lsb_release -a and look at 'Version: '02:39
altnamelike the suse 1002:39
natedoggok so i got02:39
altnameanything else worth trying?02:39
natedoggcard: intel blah02:39
kbrooksTiggs, what is it? ;)02:39
none_-natedogg, use up and down to change volume02:39
natedoggchip: analog devices02:39
user_sup all02:39
Tiggsnalioth, ok i have the installsmg script but how do i run it?02:39
Lord_MaynothI am looking forward to the new xandros02:39
none_-right and left to switch02:39
naliothTiggs: ./installsmeg02:40
excessionI'm having problems with the ATi drivers. Tried both the repository ones and from ATi's website. fglrxinfo reports I am using mesa. Used fglrxconfig to remake my xorg.conf. I'm running Breezy and have a Radeon X800.02:40
SeveasTiggs, sudo python installsmeg02:40
excessionHave followed the guide in the forums. Any suggestions?02:40
Tiggsok02:40
LeeColletonmy printer has gone dotty.  It's a HP PSC 1210 and was working fine pre-Breezy.  Now it prints black as color and reds not at all.  Methinks HPIJS is to blame.  Has anyone else seen this?02:40
Lord_MaynothI just wish the autopackage project would take off.... man... linux become more popular than windows when you are not tied to a central repository anymore...02:40
hondjeThat doesn't make sense to me02:40
hondjeWhy on earth would you want to dig around websites for packages when you can just apt-get install them?02:41
SeveasLord_Maynoth, autopackage is the worst crud I've ever seen in package management02:41
TiggsTHANK YOU!02:41
hondjeThat's just wierd02:41
Tiggs*does the happy dance*02:41
none_-natedogg, i gotta go.02:41
natedoggaww02:41
natedoggnow i cant even02:41
natedoggplay the mp3 file02:41
natedogglol02:41
none_-:(02:41
Lord_Maynothworks me seveas02:41
Lord_Maynothgaim caused no problems02:42
kbrooksSeveas, why do you think ap is the worst02:42
TiggsI have one more question, is there a tool to change the splash screen? i dont like the brown02:42
Lord_Maynothbecause it allows noobies to use linux easily02:42
Lord_Maynoththats a bad thing02:42
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kbrooksTiggs, splash screen? as in desktop background?02:42
Seveaskbrooks, because it overwrites things without warning, brings back dll hell and is worse than rpm hell02:42
none_-apt owns02:43
Tiggskbrooks, , no splash screen as it after you log in, it shows this brown bar that says ubuntu or something02:43
Seveas!tell Tiggs about splash02:43
Seveasdamnit, who removed that one02:43
kbrooksSeveas, hehe.02:44
SeveasTiggs: To change the Ubuntu splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image02:44
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TiggsSeveas, do i need to sudo to do that?02:44
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SeveasTiggs, no02:44
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kbrooksubotu, splash is <reply>To change the Ubuntu splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image02:45
ubotukbrooks: okay02:45
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kbrooksSeveas, are you satisfied now?02:45
excessionQuick question: Does PCI-E work properly under linux? ie Can a PCI-E ATi card actually WORK with hardware acceleration at all? Or is it just me?02:45
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kbrooksSeveas, How long have you used Ubuntu for?02:46
Seveaskbrooks, since warty preview02:46
kbrooksCool.02:47
Torteltehe, i use debian02:47
Tortelfirst used ubuntu tho02:47
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moparfan90can someone explain to me what raid is and what the eaid 1 and raid 0 is please02:48
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Jet2k5anybody here have the wiki URL to install  p2p_small on an amd64 system?02:48
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bozzuwhere can i find libdvdcss? synaptic does not show it02:48
Seveasmoparfan90, look on wikipedia02:49
kbrooksmany questions.02:49
naliothubotu: tell bozzu about dvd02:49
moparfan90ok02:49
X3N_moparfan90, http://en.wikipedia.com/raid02:49
Seveasit has a nice explanation02:49
moparfan90thanks02:49
kbrooksnow to actually do something.02:50
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bozzucan i use hoary-extras on breezy?02:50
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gorillamoparfan90, try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/raid instead..02:50
excessionWell...I can't get acceleration happening, I've been trying for five hours. Just so y'all know, I think Ubuntu is really nice and its great to see debian-based desktop-friendly distros out there.02:50
excessionNow I'm gonna install windows.02:50
kbrooksexcession, :|02:50
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Jet2k5anybody know?02:50
kbrooksexcession, acceleration?02:50
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gorillaexcession: which video card do you have?02:51
excessionAs in hardware acceleration with my ATi card, aye.02:51
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kbrooksexcession, umm. ati?02:51
excessionI have an ATi Radeon X800.02:51
thrice`hrm...still no luck with fglrx02:51
kbrooksati sucks.02:51
thrice`anyone have fglrx working with breezy ?02:51
MadpilotPPCexcession, ATI cards should work find. What model?02:51
thrice`libGLcore errors02:51
MadpilotPPC*fine, not find...02:51
excessionOn an MSI Nforce 4 PCI-E motherboard, with an AMD64 3500, but using the i386 install of ubuntu.02:51
vitriolis there some kind of benchmark to see the overall performance on a linux system?02:52
Seveasthrice`, i have fglrx here02:52
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vitriollike 3dmark or whatever its called02:52
Seveasvitriol, benchmarks are useless for that02:52
thrice`Seveas, do I need anything other than xorg-driver-fglrx ?02:52
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vitriolSeveas: why do you say that?02:52
Seveasthrice`, linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)02:52
Seveasvitriol, because that;s a fact02:52
MadpilotPPCexcession, have you followed the ATI drivers page on the Ubuntu wiki?02:52
thrice`ah, maybe that's the glCore it's complaining about02:52
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MadpilotPPC!tell excession about ati02:52
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excessionYep. I've followed them twice, with a re-install in between. I've also tried the drivers from the ATi website.02:53
thechitowncubsif I do a dist-upgrade will evolution retain my data?02:53
thrice`Seveas, actually, i have that installed02:53
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kbrooksthechitowncubs, yes02:53
kbrooksthechitowncubs, i havent ever used it02:53
thechitowncubswhat if it doesn;t?02:53
vitriolSeveas: benchmarks are not useless....they give users an idea of how well their hardware is running02:53
Seveasthrice`, get a decent xorg.conf then :)02:53
Seveasvitriol, except that they don't :)02:53
kbrooksvitriol, they are useless02:53
thrice`Seveas, I did, actually...that;'s what I don't get02:53
perfect_guyhi02:53
perfect_guyhello02:53
perfect_guycan u b my hcat met02:53
thrice`Seveas, you're on breezy right ?02:54
vitriolcan anybody tell me why benchmarks are useless?02:54
Seveasthrice`, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/272302:54
kbrooksvitriol, benchmarks also factor in the *program* that runs the benchmarks02:54
kbrookstherefore02:54
Seveasvitriol, since they measure nonsense02:54
perfect_guyhi02:54
perfect_guyhello02:54
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kbrooksthe results are inaccurate, nonvalid, null and void02:54
excessionMadpilotPPC: Ta for the links, buddy. I've already follow all the guides, though. :)02:54
thechitowncubsWhat if I do a dist-upgrade and it doesn't retain my evolution data?02:54
Kyralit will02:54
kbrooksNEVER trust benchmarks02:54
thrice`Seveas, is that from fglrxconfig ?02:54
kbrooksNEVER!02:54
Kyralthe only true CPU rating is the Bogomip!02:55
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Seveasthrice`, no02:55
Seveasfglrxconfig makes a mess02:55
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Seveasthis is hand-tuned02:55
climberhi02:55
TokenBadI don't even know what a bogomip is02:55
KyralNeither did I02:55
gorillakyral, you are kidding me..:-(02:55
Kyraldo a cat /proc/cpuinfo02:55
thrice`Seveas, which card do you have ?02:55
kbrooksSeveas, is my answer about benchmarks correct?02:55
KyralI am NOT kidding02:55
Seveas<kbrooks> the results are inaccurate, nonvalid, null and void <-- if you mean that one: yes02:55
Seveasthrice`, radeon mobile 960002:56
kbrooksSeveas, all of it02:56
thechitowncubsAnyone care to answer if I upgrade to Breezy what if my Evolution data gets borked?02:56
Kyrala Bogomips measure the mount of times per second a computer can do nothing02:56
climberI making a work about ubuntu, and and I need who develop Ubuntu?02:56
Kyralthechitowncubs, I did02:56
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ogami1972hi channel02:56
climberUbuntu Team?02:56
thechitowncubsits very important and i want to make sure everything will be flawless02:56
Seveasthechitowncubs, how would your evo data get borked?02:56
gorillaKyral: its a expression of the timing loop that linux ues... the bogo comes from bogus :-) bogomips is not a benchmark.02:56
thrice`Seveas, hrm...I'll tweek that...be back soon =] 02:56
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ogami1972can anyone help with bzflag vs X issues?02:56
Seveasthrice`, good luck :)02:56
joniak99question-----has anyone here been able to burn avi or dvix movies to dvd????02:56
moparfan90im making a new computer and am going to use windows because i want quake 4. im am switching to a amd 64 processor. does anyone know if there is anything i have to do to avoid errors in windows or ubuntu?02:56
thechitowncubsSeveas, I have no idea, but if it does i'll come crying :)02:56
Kyralgorilla, its the one true measure of CPU speed across 99% of CPUs02:56
Seveasmoparfan90, yes, get another OS02:57
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Jet2k5Moder, up I think quake 4 has a Linux naitive prot02:57
Jet2k5port **02:57
Seveaswhat I mean: every os has errors02:57
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kbrooksKyral, You are implying that is a benchmark.02:57
KyralMaybe it is02:57
Kyralafter all02:57
kbrooks"one true measure of CPU speed across 99% of CPUs"02:58
moparfan90seveas, well i mean from changing... i have never used a 64 bit processpr are they the same  as 32bit02:58
excessionDoes anyone here have a PCI-E video card working with the ATi drivers? Just out of interest?02:58
Kyrala CPU that does 4300 bogomips is faster than one that does 2000 bogomips02:58
Seveasmoparfan90, no :)02:58
Seveasexcession, not on hoary, hoary kernels don't support it out of the box02:58
kbrooksmoparfan90, 64 is backward compat with 3202:58
moparfan90oo ok. is 64 bit alot faster then 32 bit?02:58
moparfan90o02:58
Seveasmoparfan90, only on a few special apps02:58
Kyraland since its such a low level calculation02:58
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joniak99question-----has anyone here been able to burn avi or dvix movies to dvd????02:58
Seveasand not with windows02:58
Kyralthere is no program to take into effect02:59
HrdwrBoBjoniak99: yse02:59
excessionSeveas: Aye, thats OK, I'm on Breezy. Know if it works for that? :)02:59
Kyralbogomips        : 4620.2802:59
joniak99HrdwrBob:  what program?02:59
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moparfan90what about games . thats the main reson im buying this i hear its the best cpu for gaming02:59
moparfan90is it better02:59
moparfan90for half life 2?02:59
locomortoFX 57?02:59
moparfan90no02:59
Seveasexcession, afaik yes, but don't hang me if i'm wrong02:59
moparfan90thats like $2k03:00
joniak99HrdwrBob: i looked at avidemux but seems too mutch03:00
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yarddogbogomips        : 6373.3703:00
KyralShouldn't this go in #ubuntu-offtopic?03:00
locomortoexactly that is the best CPU for gaming03:00
gorillamoparfan90, thre is not gaes that i no of that make use of 64 bit CPUS...03:00
excessionThanks for answering.03:00
Kyralyarddog, what CPU?03:00
yarddogP4 3.2 HT03:00
Kyralpsh03:00
moparfan90ok03:00
Seveaskyncani, kinda...03:00
yarddogheh03:00
moparfan90bye everyone03:00
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KyralAMD Athon XP 2700+ at 2.3 Ghz03:00
zielonyhello03:00
Seveasgoodbye03:01
yarddog:)03:01
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zielonyI'm from poland, anybody speak polish ?03:01
zielonygada ktos po polsku ?03:01
Kyralmaybe in #ubuntu-pl (if it exists)03:01
zielonythx03:01
zielonyno03:01
gorillaZibby, I think there is a ubuntu polish channel #ubuntu-po here on freenode03:01
TokenBadanyone here run scripts for xchat?03:02
gorillazielony* rther03:02
vitriolwell...about this benchmarking question...it stemmed from originally having prolems with setting udma on my dvdrom (jittery videoes watching dvds)03:02
vitrioli tried to set udma 503:02
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zielonydosent work ..03:02
vitrioland got this:03:02
vitriolOct  2 11:53:18 localhost kernel: [4372991.283000]  hdc: Speed warnings UDMA 3/4/5 is not functional.03:02
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vitrioli think i have dma on now, so i can watch dvds, but its still a little jumpy03:02
yarddogLinux menace 2.6.12-9-686-smp #1 SMP Sat Oct 1 00:55:37 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux03:03
vitrioldoes that mean that the drive doesn't support those dma modes?03:03
vitriolor the kernel?03:03
pulverhow do u change default wm metacity to something else? gconf-editor /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager changed nothing03:03
yarddogwhere is that tutorial/doc for that ati card for ubuntu? the wiki?03:03
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vitriolpulver: if you do a search on the forums for 'enlightened gnome'03:04
vitriolpulver: you can find an answer to your question on that thread03:04
locomorto!tell yarddog about ati03:04
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pulvervitriol: ok ty03:04
vitriolcan anybody explain my dma problems with the dvdrom?03:05
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JaNezwhat is the chmod for the archivos, i wanna write, modify and eliminate the archives03:05
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JaNezwhat is de number of chmod?03:05
vitriol2 MB in  4.92 seconds = 416.66 kB/sec03:05
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moparfan90is there a way with synpatic to install win32 codecs on mplayer and totem?03:08
Seveasmoparfan90, apt-get install w32codecs totem-xine03:08
moparfan90ook03:08
moparfan90thanks03:08
moparfan90E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate03:08
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QuinthiusSeveas: i thought the codecs werent in the repos anymore?03:09
vitriolyou have universe uncommented?03:09
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moparfan90i have all them03:09
vitriolnm i don't see them either03:09
vitriolguess Quinthius is right03:09
grndslmapprox. when will all the backports and uni/multiverse packages be complete for breezy?03:10
moparfan90seveas, i got this error:   E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate03:10
Seveasmoparfan90, then find a repo that has them :)03:10
naliothubotu: tell moparfan90 about w32codecs03:10
Lord_Maynothhere is a question03:11
durthere they are: http://debian.tu-bs.de/mplayer/ftp.n...2-0.0_i386.deb03:11
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durtoops03:11
durthttp://debian.tu-bs.de/mplayer/ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb03:11
naliothyou guys are making a mountain out of a molehill03:11
Lord_Maynothhave you guys ever updated using synaptic, and it screwed up unbunt?03:11
naliothdurt: /msg ubotu w32codecs03:11
kataklsymwhat would be the equivalent to MS Money for linux, specifically ubuntu?03:11
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naliothif you guys cant use ubotus info, go to www.mplayerhq.hu and download the codecs direct03:12
naliothkataklsym: gnucash03:12
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kataklsymi need something that will import a MS Money database and have all the features that MS Money does..03:12
kataklsymnalioth, does gnucash import MS Money dbs?03:12
naliothkataklsym: not sure03:12
kataklsymill check it out and see03:12
shiviI am getting this message03:12
naliothkataklsym: http://www.gnucash.org/03:13
shiviW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:13
naliothshivi: try again later03:13
funkyHatanyone here ever used xmove?03:13
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kbrooksQuestion:03:13
shivibut I need to get libdvdcss203:14
kbrookswhy does minimizing any program make it ....03:14
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kbrooksrun faster?03:14
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naliothubotu: tell shivi about dvd03:14
shivihe did and I added the repo03:14
grndslmapprox. when will all the backports and uni/multiverse package repositories be complete for breezy?03:14
shivistill the same error03:14
naliothshivi: you added extras?03:14
X3N_can't get ubuntu to install on 64mb of ram, anyone managed this feat ?03:14
kbrooksX3N_, server install please03:15
X3N_tried it03:15
X3N_and tried making a swap partion for it and using swapon while the installer is running03:15
shiviyes I did03:15
shivideb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted03:15
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X3N_still get killed - out of memory03:16
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moparfan90how do i extract comprssed files in terminal?03:17
MCJediwhat's the command to install epic irc client?03:17
moparfan90and using sudo03:17
Seveasmoparfan90, tar zxf03:17
naliothubotu: tell shivi about hoary-extras03:17
moparfan90whats zxf03:17
naliothshivi: use the correct repos03:17
X3N_type man tar and it will tell you03:17
thechitowncubsI wish I could set up Samba the right way...03:18
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XorlevI need a little assistance...recently I've switched to the Opera Web Browser, but my forward/back mouse buttons (Microsoft Intellimouse) only make pages scroll, not move forward or back as in Firefox.03:19
moparfan90ok i just extracted the files to desktop   how do i send them to a folder but i need to use sudo?03:19
natedogganyone wanna help me troubleshoot sound issues with ubuntu 5.10?03:20
kbrooksmoparfan90, no03:20
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kbrooksmoparfan90, what is this for03:20
moparfan90win32 codecs03:20
moparfan90what do you mean no   i cant?03:20
natedoggany help with sound issues?03:20
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stevewabc_laptop? is anyone here running a 5.25 bay cooling fan? this case has no front vents and my box temp is running 125 D.03:20
naliothmoparfan90: you install debs using "dpkg -i file.deb"03:21
durtxorlev- play around with tools>preference>advanced>shortcuts03:21
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moparfan90its not a .deb file03:21
kbrooksmoparfan90,03:21
moparfan90theres like 100 files03:21
kbrooksmoparfan90, what is this for03:21
kbrooksexplain03:21
naliothmoparfan90: the codecs go in /usr/local/lib/codecs03:21
crispynixstevewabc_laptop: 125 D?03:21
Daveymy CD drive is refusing to open/mount/umount, any idea?03:21
Xorlevdurt: I have. For the past two hours, which is why I'm asking for assistance.03:21
MachineScrewcan any one tell me how I can reinstall a kernel image ?03:21
moparfan90i thought its win32?03:22
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hondjesudo apt-get install --reinstall <kernel version you want to resintall>03:22
kbrooksmoparfan90, i have told you to explain twice. please do so.03:22
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moparfan90its win32 codecs for mplayer and totem player03:22
naliothmoparfan90: /usr/local/lib/codecs/03:22
ZoohouseI just installed a buch of packages on ubuntu 5.04 but it doesn't appear on the menu... Do  I need to refresh the menu?03:22
moparfan90what dont you get03:22
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moparfan90ok03:22
SeveasZoohouse, not all packages define menu entries03:23
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durtxorlev: i dont know it this will help... : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/35849503:23
ZoohouseTuxracer should...03:23
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ZBlachhi03:24
MCJediwhat's the command to install epic irc client?03:24
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zielonyjest tu jakis polak ?03:24
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Chinamananyone know how to setup printers?03:24
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ZBlachwhy can't I set settings with iwconfig? I get no errors, but its not working03:25
funkyHatMCJedi, apt-cache search epic irc03:25
thrice`ok, why wouldn't I have an fglrx module?03:25
funkyHatthen sudo apt-get install packagename03:25
ZBlach!ubuntu-po03:25
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, ZBlach03:25
ZBlach!ubuntu-pl03:25
ubotuZBlach: I give up, what is it?03:25
thrice`xorg-driver-fglrx doesn't provide the module ?03:25
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ZBlachi can detect my wireless network, i just can't connect to it03:26
durt!polish03:26
ubotudurt: Do they come in packets of five?03:26
X3N_ZBlach, study "man iwconfig"03:26
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ZBlachX3N_, i've read it 'cover' to 'cover'03:27
chimpeeseriously considering a switch from Fedora 4 to ubuntu... rpm's pissin me off...03:27
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Orunitiachimpee: good choice :P03:27
solidgrooveim sorry i looked at porn j\k :)03:27
thrice`Seveas: around ?03:27
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chimpeeorunitia: i don't expect anyone in here to be biased :)03:27
Daveygrrr, damn thing, unmount you piece of shit :/03:27
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Orunitiachimpee: haha not at all :P03:28
solidgrooveubuntu is the greatest distro ever03:28
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Orunitiachimpee: but apt is a lot better than rpm's03:28
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Razor-Xhmmm, how does screen's check for activity work?03:28
imterros can03:28
durtzblach: maybe "ifup wlan0" or whatever your device is03:28
solidgroovethey were saying debian is better than windows ubuntu must be as well03:28
chimpeebut i did come for some advice... i ordered the 5.10 cd... should i wait until i receive it  to install?03:29
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chimpeeas opposed to installing the preview now...03:29
Orunitiaif you can download it, it would be a LOT faster. those cd's take forever and a day to arrive03:29
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JosephSpirosOK, so... I'm going to install Ubuntu on a machine03:29
JosephSpirosand I'd like to install 5.1003:29
JosephSpirosWhat's the best method to do so?03:30
Orunitiaand the preview is really stable, at least for me and most people say so03:30
ScatterBrainchimpee: I've heard that the Preview Release isn't as fast as the final release will be.03:30
durtwhy does the courier new font have screwed up pound characters?03:30
JosephSpirosshould I install Hoary and upgrade or is there some CD image I can use to do something more from scratch?03:30
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chimpeescatter: if i install the preview will i be able to upgrade to final without undoing my whole setup?03:30
ScatterBrainchimpee: I'd wait until 5.10 is released and d/l the ISOs.03:30
dbwRazor-X: an app sends a signal to the terminal or wm03:31
X3N_shouldn't really matter JosephSpiros03:31
ScatterBrainchimpee: Should be able too.  It should just be like an apt-get upgrade.03:31
thrice`ok, i quit03:31
thrice`fglrx is broke on breezy03:31
transgressthrice`: no it isn't03:31
st1lgardon't type "free the fish" in the run app dialog !03:31
thrice`transgress: it WILL not work for me03:31
chimpeeScatterBrain, the thing is, i need to setup my dev environment, so if i stick with fedora core 4 for 2 more weeks, i'll have alot more work to redo before i'm up to speed again03:31
transgressfglrxconfig is... but fglrx isn't broken03:31
kevogodIt works for me.03:31
ScatterBrainchimpee: 5.04 --> 5.10 should be just as easy.03:31
transgressthrice`: well you're doing it wron03:31
transgressg03:31
thrice`how ?03:31
thrice`I have no fglrx module03:32
thrice`that is the problem03:32
JosephSpirosX3N_: I know it shouldn't in theory, but for example, in Debian, moving from Woody to Sarge, that shouldn't have been a problem, but certain subsystem changes caused all sorts of evil files to be littered across my filesystem that were used by old packages03:32
thrice`am I supposed to compile it myself ?03:32
transgressdid you get the restricted modules and the fglrx package?03:32
thrice`this method has worked on the past 5 distros...I doubt it's me03:32
ScatterBrainchimpee: So, install 5.04 now. and upgrade 5.10 later.03:32
thrice`linux-restricted-modules ?03:32
transgressthrice`: yes.  and the xorg-fglrx package...03:32
transgressfglrx                 255716  703:32
chimpeeScatterBrain, the preview is that bad eh :)03:32
transgressit's there.  i promise.03:32
thrice`transgress: I have xorg-driver-fglrx03:33
noobtasticHi, I have a question about i18n. I have audio files from arount the world, and in Gtk/GNOME apps often append (invalid encoding) or (invalid utf-8) to the files. Additionally, gnome-terminal replaces many characters in the filenames with question marks. Is there a way to fix this?03:33
noobtasticDo I need to add more locales to /etc/locale.gen or something?03:33
transgressthrice`: what happened when you did modprobe fglrx?03:33
thrice`transgress: fatal, module not found03:33
transgresspurge the package and re-get it03:33
durthow bout "insmod fglrx.ko"03:33
thrice`transgress: I have 3 times now03:33
ScatterBrainchimpee: No.  I saw it this weekend at a conference.  It's OK, but since it's "not quite ready", I don't think I'd trust a production machine to it.03:33
ZBlachalright. "My card has failed to associate with the access point". How can I make things nice and friendly again?03:34
transgressactually... updatedb and then locate fglrx03:34
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transgresssee if it is there.03:34
thrice`no such file or directory03:34
transgresslocate doesn't say that... so anyways... try locating it03:34
thrice`transgress: all I need is xorg-driver-fglrx ?03:34
Razor-Xdbw: so it has to be app specific?03:34
transgressthrice`: and the restricted modules03:35
KlinkMeisterI have a Radeon 9600 I get about 2000FPS w/ glxgears, is that about normal?03:35
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transgressKlinkMeister: actually that's quite good03:35
ScatterBrainKlinkMeister: With the frglx drivers, yeah.03:35
KlinkMeisterty03:35
thrice`transgress: yes, it's in restricted modules, /usr/lib/fglrx, etc.03:35
transgressglxgears doesn't work for me anymore03:35
transgressnot sure what it is... but fgl_glxgears work great03:36
ScatterBrainKlinkMeister: I think my Radeon 9200 gets about 1200 or so.03:36
chimpeeScatterBrain, ah right... but it's not production yet.. switching from windows so there's quite the learning curve.. if i can run php5 apache2 as well as mono and monodevelop i will be quite happy03:36
ZBlachRadeon 9700 gets around 2700, so you're doing well03:36
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transgressglxgears just goes really slow for me... but fgl_glxgears flies...03:36
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transgressScatterBrain: what do you get with fgl_glxgears ?03:36
thrice`ok, i quit03:36
KlinkMeisterThats what i used to have, wasnt too bad i have some trouble using cedega now though03:36
seifei quit too.03:37
transgressi start!03:37
epilocis it possible to operate as root in knoqueror so that i may edit/rename/copy/move/etc files and folders without using the command line?03:37
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s3[mn] rainI am trying to apply a patch to some source code, but I get "patch: **** unexpected end of file in patch", I copied the patch from a web page and stuck in a file, but it is not working :(03:37
ScatterBrainchimpee: It'll do all of that.  And if it's not a production machine then the 10% or so of performance loss isn't going to be bad either.03:37
ZBlachthrice, seife, I accept your resignations03:37
epiloci tried #kubuntu but no response03:37
thrice`back to slack03:37
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solidgroovelinux is great03:37
seifelol03:37
ZBlachsolidgroove, *thumbs up*03:38
ScatterBraintransgress: I can't remember for sure.  But I know it's *much* less than glx-gears is.03:38
transgressepiloc: could set up a shortcut to kdesu konqueror i suppose... why the problem with starting it in commandland?03:38
chimpeeScatterBrain,  yeah and i get to feel leet ;D03:38
KlinkMeisterI am still pretty new to linux, i have tries suse, Vector and Ubuntu seems to be the best for me03:38
transgressScatterBrain: yeah there is a reason for that though... it's supposed to be less.03:38
ScatterBrainchimpee: Exactly.  ;-)03:38
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solidgroovei need to enable multiverse and universe and do some updates on my new install of 5.0403:38
ScatterBraintransgress: Right.  I'm thinking is like 500 fps or something.03:38
durtwhy does gnomebaker write discs for me at a max speed of only about 4x?03:38
solidgrooveand compile 2.6.13.203:38
ScatterBrainLet me see if I can get that box fired up and try it.03:39
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epiloctransgress: how would i start a root knoqueror session from console?03:39
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Trashcansudo konquerer03:39
Trashcantype your password03:39
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Trashcanerr wait...03:40
transgressepiloc: sudo konqueror03:40
chimpeei do pretty serious enterprise n-tier type development ... i want to dive into hardcore linux development... writing kernel modules or compilers03:40
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Trashcani think you use gksudo, not sudo03:41
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naliothtransgress: to start kde gui apps, it's best to use kdesu03:41
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epilocthat works just fine, but i still cant delete files and folders03:41
durtchimpee: can you write some modules and drivers and stuff for me then? ;)03:41
naliothtransgress: sorry03:41
Trashcanignore me..03:41
naliothTrashcan: : to start kde gui apps, it's best to use kdesu03:41
Trashcanright03:42
epilocnalioth, example?03:42
chimpeedurt: are you talking embedded drivers for cool linux based hardware? :D03:42
transgressnalioth: well i said to do that with a shortcut... didn't realize there was a big difference in command line though03:42
chimpeeor for your linmodem03:42
naliothepiloc: kmenu > run program > kdesu konqueror03:42
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durtchimpee: for my toshiba laptop03:42
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ian__Whenever i minimize anything it quits any ideas why?03:43
Tortelim BORED03:43
Tortel:(03:43
grndslmanybody here know if a mini-itx motherboard is available for pentium m processors???03:43
ZBlachian__, maybe you're hitting the wrong button03:43
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Trashcanian__: wrong button03:43
Trashcan?03:43
Tortellol, could be it03:44
ian__lol i wish that was it03:44
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Tortelian__, far left button03:44
ZBlachlike _far_ left03:44
yoinkexcuse me, synaptic doesnt seem to like my sources.list, can someone help? Here is my sources.list and the synaptic error... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/272503:44
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epilocnalioth, that works great, but i still cant delete folders via knoqueror... i create /test but can only remove it via command line03:45
naliothubotu: tell yoink about sources03:45
epilocsudo rm test -rf03:45
ZBlachubotu, tell me about sources03:46
naliothepiloc: that is odd03:46
lakinI'm having a problem getting the ndiswrapper module inserted into my kernel, I'm running modprobe using sudo, but still getting this: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted03:46
ZBlach!seen ubunut03:46
ubotuubunut <n=radiskul@Toronto-HSE-ppp3726149.sympatico.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 1d 23h 2m 55s ago, saying: 'I [heart]  ubuntu ^_^~~~'.03:46
chimpeedurt: i promise to do my absolute best if you have a 2nd toshiba laptop to ship me so i can test on :D03:46
durti you hand me a few thousand bucks, chimpee03:47
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MCJediok the root guy says this03:48
MCJedi8:26pm]  <Fudge> sorry mate03:48
ZBlachanyone wanna help me establish contact with my router?03:48
MCJedi[8:27pm]  <Fudge> ask him why i couldnt just compile it03:48
MCJedi[8:28pm]  <Fudge> i got errors in make03:48
naliothMCJedi: and your point is?03:48
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chimpeedurt: hmm no deal :(03:48
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naliothZBlach: put 192.169.0.1 in your address bar of your browser03:49
yoinknalioth, ive already looked at that...i used the sample sources.list03:49
MCJedinalioth: it was in response to this: [8:24pm]  <funkyHat> MCJedi, apt-cache search epic irc03:49
naliothyoink: then what is it saying (use a pastebin)03:49
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durtzblach, if your in gnome, go to the network tools thing and make sure its setup correctly (ie, dhcp)03:49
ZBlachnalioth , that supposed to be my router address?03:49
naliothMCJedi: i'm not getting it. just ask a question03:49
naliothZBlach: yes, for some routers03:49
yarddogwiki troubleshooter for the fglrx works very well, worked for me :)03:49
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ZBlachdurt, says its configured correctly, and it matches my windows config, but its nowt working03:49
MCJedihaving trouble installing epic on ubuntu03:49
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yoinknalioth, i did!  it was in my original question...03:50
MCJedihow can it be done? is my question03:50
yoinkexcuse me, synaptic doesnt seem to like my sources.list, can someone help? Here is my sources.list and the synaptic error... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/272503:50
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ZBlachnalioth: "Connection Refused"03:50
ZBlachyoink, look for a nicer one03:50
naliothyoink: we need error msgs, "doesnt like" doesnt tell us anything03:50
yoinkZBlach, a nicer sample or pastebin?03:50
epilocanyone recommend a nice gooey ftp server for kde?03:51
ZBlachyoink, i'm windoze here, but pastebin has a few nice ones03:51
naliothMCJedi: do you want to install something?03:51
ZBlachepiloc, try proftpd03:51
yoinknalioth, if you look at the pastebin you would see the error message03:51
naliothepiloc: kftpgrabber03:51
naliothepiloc: woops, not a server03:51
Ximight I be able to find how to boot the power pc live cd on a Powerbook G3 (pismo) ?03:51
MCJediwant to install epic03:51
ZBlachepiloc, ignore me. except this message03:51
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yoinkZBlach, how do i know whether one sample is better than another?03:52
ZBlachyoink, try one, and if you get fewer errors: its better03:52
naliothyoink: first. remove mirrormax. it no longer is supported03:52
epilocZBlach: proftpd easy to configure?03:52
nalioth!info epic03:52
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ZBlachepiloc, yes, but no gui. sorry03:52
MCJedi!info epic03:52
yoinknalioth, you still arent looking...i dont have mirrormax03:53
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epilocZBlach:  I have been messing with it for a bit but still cant connect from a diff on my lan03:53
nalioth!info epic403:53
ubotuepic4: (epic irc client, version 4), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:2.0-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 427 kB, Installed size: 1368 kB03:53
tristanmikeyoink, it looks like it's looking for the source packages but you have them commented out. Uncomment them, then "sudo apt-get update" see if that helps03:53
naliothMCJedi: enable all your sources03:53
ZBlachmy access point reads all zeroes. how can I force an address?03:53
naliothyoink: the pastebin you showed me has mirrormax03:53
yoinktristanmike, you need the source packages for backports to work?03:53
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naliothyoink: no you do not03:53
durtwhat mode should i use for burning isos?03:53
svrefHow much disk space does a default Ubuntu install take?  I have a 2.1 GB drive, &and& a 1.1 GB drive!  (puffs up chest)03:54
ciushello, I have a question about linux drivers03:54
ZBlachsvref, you're better off tattooing linux to yourself.03:54
yoinknalioth, the word mirrormax is not in my sources.list03:54
tristanmikeyoink, I can't say either way, but you can try it to see if it helps.03:54
lakinWhat are the reasons that modprobe produces an error similar to: Operation not permitted03:54
ZBlachlakin, sudo it03:54
Ximight I be able to find how to boot the power pc live cd on a Powerbook G3 (pismo) ? (bump) anyone take this?03:55
svrefZBlach: okay, so a new HD is in my future... but how much space am I aiming for here?  4GB?  8GB?03:55
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durtlakin, try insmod03:55
ZBlachsvref, i'm using 30 for mine03:55
lakinZBlach, I am.03:55
ZBlachwell, 29 and 1 for swap sace03:55
ZBlach**space03:55
lakindurt, Same error for insmod03:55
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ciusI'm looking for drivers for my onboard sound (intel) but they only offer drivers for Red Hat, SuSe and Novell.03:55
svrefZBlach: but how much of that is "in use"?03:55
naliothyoink: backports and extras are down atm03:55
durtlakin, sudo -s, then do the modprobing03:55
naliothyoink: try later03:56
ciusWhich of those would I need to get for ubuntu hoary?03:56
ZBlachsvref, before i replatformed? about 80%03:56
lakindurt, same error.03:56
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ZBlachsvref, seriously. space is dirt-cheap. pickup a 300G hdd for 200$03:56
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durtlakin, do you have the kernel headers installed?03:56
svrefZBlach: and how much of the 23.2GB is actual Ubuntu system files, versus .mp3s or something.03:56
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lakindurt, yes03:56
svrefZBlach: this is charity work, and I'm not able to spend money on it, so its an issue of digging drives out of parts bins.03:57
ZBlachsvref, that was all linux and lin-programs. everything else (mp3, manga, games) was on other drives03:57
yoinknalioth, k....im tellin ya, i dont have mirrormax repos.....:)03:57
lakinroot@zedd:~# dpkg -l | grep headers | grep `uname -r`03:57
lakinii  linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8                 2.6.12-9.19                       Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on AMD K803:57
ZBlachsvref. a noble cause. 2.1 gig should handle most things you can throw at it03:57
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yoinktristanmike, uncommenting didnt help fyi03:57
naliothyoink: you dont have mirrormax. but you do have unsupported repos03:58
naliothyoink: which are down atm03:58
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lakinCould there be module specific reasons for something like that?03:58
ZBlachalright. i'm running.03:58
tristanmikehmm, I updated, they only one I have commented is the planetmirror one, and I get no errors03:58
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durtlakin, sorry i dont know :(03:58
chimpeewhat particular advantage does ubuntu have over slackware?03:58
esacevolution-data-server-1.4 is taking up 63.9 MiB and evolution-alarm-notify is taking up 55.8 MiB. Does anybody know how I can get rid of those ? I don't even have evolution open03:58
lakindurt, thanks for trying.03:58
yoinknalioth, ok, just so we're clear...so i have little chance of getting the jre package or anything like that atm?03:58
durtchimpee, its easier to get hardware working03:58
naliothubotu: tell yoink about javadeb03:58
svrefCan people tell me how many gigs their system partition(s) are taking with a desktop install?  I'm taking a survey...03:59
lakinubotu: tell lakin about javadeb03:59
chimpeedurt, hmm considering i'm installing on a compaq laptop, that's a pretty big plus03:59
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Trashcansvref: 14.37/17.84gb free04:00
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Trashcanso about 3.5gb04:00
svrefTrashcan: christ!  :/04:00
Trashcanhaha04:00
durtchimpee, although the latest slackware ships with the 2.6 kernel - it might be better than before, im actually burning the disk now04:00
ciuswhat would be the primary difference between audio drivers for different distros?  (red hat vs suse, etc)04:00
Trashcani've yet to drop all those freakin games, though04:00
nate_anyone know how to fix audio, it doesnt work04:01
naliothubotu: sound04:01
ubotuwell, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/04:01
ciusmine works, but only out of my front, center, and woofer channels04:01
solidgroovemy usb wifi only works with ubuntu04:01
svrefTrashcan: oh so your system / takes about 3.5gig?  That's not so bad then.  I thought you said it was 14GB...04:01
Trashcanhaha, no04:01
solidgrooveeven if I recompile the kernel on another distro04:01
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esac.. /usr 2.7G, /etc 38M, /sbin 9.7M, /bin 4.0M, /lib 130M, /var 1.2G  .. anything else im missing svref ?04:02
anethemahey ive gotta question for a more linux/alsa guru04:02
dmlinuxhey guys04:02
anethemaive got dmix set up, and xmms uses it fine when you pick 'default sound device' in the alsa config04:02
anethemabut if you pick hw:0,004:02
dmlinuxwhat are the benefits of Gentoo Vs Ubuntu04:02
svrefesac: that's what I needed, thanks04:02
anethemaor whatever, it doesnt work, says sound dev is in use04:02
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anethemaanyone know what i can put into other alsa things to make it work?04:02
dmlinuxwhat are the benefits of Gentoo Vs Ubuntu04:03
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nate_anyone wanna help me troubleshoot sound issues with ubuntu 5.10?04:03
nate_I cannotr get any form of sound04:03
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nate_it's on the right device04:03
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naliothnate_: did you see the link for fixing sound?04:05
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esacdmlinux: this isn't a philosophical channel :)04:05
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avenhey04:05
avenanyone know where the ubuntu's command promt is?04:05
naliothdmlinux: join #ubuntu-offtopic or #freenode and ask04:05
naliothaven: applications > system tools > terminal04:05
dmlinuxjoin #ubuntu-offtopic04:06
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avenahh, thanks04:06
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Thunderguyaven: a command prompt? ctrl-alt-f1-f6, or ctrl-alt-f7 to go back to your Xserver, other then that on the applications menu it's there somewhere.04:07
epilochow do i confugre home directories and set up users/pw with proftpd?04:08
aventhanks thunderguy04:08
nate_no I did not see the link nalioth04:08
ThunderguySure.04:08
nate_co9uld someone give me the look on how to fix audio04:09
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nate_hello04:10
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KlinkMeisterwhats wrong with it?04:11
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nate_it dont work04:11
nate_and04:11
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nate_the right device is set04:12
nalioth!tell nate_ about sound04:12
nate_and I installed all the04:12
esacdoes anybody know how to make everything 1-click to open/select (like mac). i've got it in nautilus, but it doesn't seem to work for file open dialogs and other programs04:12
remyforbes777..04:12
nate_multimedia encodes04:12
anethemanate: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly04:12
KlinkMeisterthere you go that will help what he told you04:12
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anethemano one can help me with my alsa problem ?04:13
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nomasteryoda|wanethema, did you see the debuggingsound wiki page?04:14
KlinkMeisteranyone install unreal 2004 in ubuntu?04:14
nomasteryoda|wand the post on linuxquestions?04:14
AdmiralSennhey guys, I'm trying to run the 'script for new users' off ubuntuforums.org, it's called ubuntusetup.sh... anyway, one of the repositories isn't working04:14
AdmiralSennKlinkMeister, I have04:14
nomasteryoda|wAdmiralSenn, that would be the backports04:15
KlinkMeisteri try to run the linux installer but it doeesnt work04:15
AdmiralSennnomasteryoda|w, yeah, I read about that04:15
AdmiralSennI need to edit the script, I'm assuming04:15
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AdmiralSennKlinkMeister, what do you mean by it doesn't work?04:15
AdmiralSennthat could mean a lot of things04:15
KlinkMeistercant run the installer04:16
AdmiralSennO_o04:16
AdmiralSennsh linux-installer.sh?04:16
AdmiralSennerr04:16
KlinkMeisteryes04:16
AdmiralSennsudo sh linux-installer.sh04:16
anethemayes nomasteryoda|w it doesnt help04:16
AdmiralSennand that doesn't work?!04:16
KlinkMeisteri have installed it in othe distros but never in ubuntu04:16
AdmiralSennthat's..... not right04:16
AdmiralSennmine just went right through04:16
ThunderguyMaybe he has a root account enabled?04:16
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KlinkMeisterok ty ill try it again04:17
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AdmiralSennnomasteryoda|w, how do I fix it so backports work?04:17
AdmiralSennis it in sources.list?04:17
naliothAdmiralSenn: backports are down atm04:17
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nomasteryoda|wAdmiralSenn, you can't...04:17
AdmiralSennbut isn't there an "official" backports project?04:17
AdmiralSennor is that what's down?04:18
primoturbodoes anyone know how to retrive a lost password for nickserv?04:18
naliothubotu: tell AdmiralSenn about backports04:18
naliothprimoturbo: join #freenode and ask there04:18
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bipolarSeveas, ping04:19
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chimpeei'm now trying to decide between suse and ubuntu :D04:19
tristanmikechimpee, easy, Ubuntu04:19
chimpeefedora and slackware are out of the picture04:19
ScatterBraintWhoever asked about my glxgears/fgl_glxgears Numbers for a Radeon 9200:04:19
Seveasbipolar, ICMP ECHO REPLY04:19
AdmiralSennnalioth, thanks, so do I just remove the ftp2.caliu address?04:19
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ScatterBrainglxgears: about 1200.  fgl_glxgears: about 200.04:19
bipolarSeveas, would it be possible for you to set up rsync on your repo? I've got a perminant IP and server to set up for it.04:20
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Tiggshow can i change the brown background that shows when the splash screen loads?04:20
chimpeetristanmike, because i am a software dev, ubuntu may not prove the best choice... i'll give it a spin tho04:20
Seveasbipolar, not atm, the fans in the server grinded to a halt so I shut it down for now04:20
tristanmikechimpee, then develop some software for Ubuntu :)04:21
bipolarSeveas, thats why I wanted to set up a mirror :)04:21
crispynixchimpee: simple: SuSE for KDE, Ubuntu for GNOME =)04:21
bipolarSeveas, got a T1 and everything :)04:21
khadIf anyone is interested in test driving a Mac OS X icon theme I am working on, please send me a private message. It is already about twice as complete as any other OS X icon theme I have used.04:21
Seveasbipolar, too late ;)04:21
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KlinkMeisterinstalling now, thanks im a tard04:21
tristanmikechimpee, it was kinda a joke anyway, could you expect me to respond any different in an Ubuntu channel :)04:21
AdmiralSennKlinkMeister, me too!04:21
shivican somebody email me their sources.list file, I am having a hard time to add all of them please email to drshiv@gmail.com04:21
tristanmike!tell shivi about sources04:22
Seveas!tell shivi about sources04:22
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Seveasdamn you tristanmike :p04:22
tristanmikelol04:22
Tiggsok gdm changed, theme changed, splash image changed, splash brown background, how do i change that?04:22
misterdiffdang, did hp beef up their support for linux?04:22
chimpeetristanmike, hehe obviously... i like gnome better.. as i do dev, i don't want to be tied to QT04:22
bipolarSeveas, well, if you remember it next time you boot your server up.... :p04:23
misterdiffi just installed a multifunction machine in a matter of seconds04:23
SeveasTiggs, system -> prefs -> desktop background04:23
HrdwrBoBmisterdiff: over the last few years, certainly04:23
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SeveasTiggs, change the color there04:23
HrdwrBoBHP have very good linux support04:23
Seveasbipolar, i'll try :)04:23
misterdiffthat's even quicker than in windows04:23
Tiggsits blue, but i still have a brown screen when it loads splash04:23
Tiggsdo i need to change that as root perhaps?04:23
AdmiralSenn!tell AdmiralSenn about backports04:24
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altnameHow do I make the login screen be the same resolution & refresh rate as my desktop04:24
esacdoes anybody know a good editor for c# in linux ?04:24
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Seveasesac, vim04:24
lakinesac: monodevelop?04:24
Tiggsesac kdedevelop?04:25
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lakinesac, apparently eclipse has a module for it as well.04:25
esaci tried eclipse, not really liking it04:25
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altnamewhat's the url to order the cds for ubuntu?04:25
AdmiralSennokay, the script still isn't working04:25
Tiggsok i think i got it04:26
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lakinaltname, have you tried asking google?  Historically google is quite good at remembering urls04:26
esacgonna give monodevelop a shot since it was written directly for c#04:26
altnamenvm found it shipit.ubuntu.com04:26
AdmiralSenn99% [Connecting to ftp2.caliu.info (147.83.29.16)] 04:26
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AdmiralSennit's stuck there04:26
AdmiralSenn04:26
esacTiggs: so change it04:26
AdmiralSennwhoa04:26
AdmiralSennwait a minute04:26
esactiggs: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050926#304:26
AdmiralSennerm04:27
AdmiralSennI've changed /etc/apt/sources.list04:27
AdmiralSenncommented out the ftp2.caliu addresses and added the official backports line from the wiki page04:27
AdmiralSennbut it's still  looking for caliu04:27
ciusanyone know how to get an Intel ICH5's  surround functionality to work properly?04:28
nomasteryoda|wAdmiralSenn, the script must be looking for it04:28
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ciusdamn rear channel is silent as my dead grandmother04:28
ciussound debug wiki didn't help04:28
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AdmiralSennah04:28
AdmiralSennhere it is04:28
HatchLingSo, er...  I installed Ubuntu (hoary), and it asked me to configure a user, but never a root password...04:28
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HatchLingSo how do I do things that require root privs?04:28
AdmiralSennit's using a sources.list from ubuntuforums.org04:29
vengefulhatchling, sudo04:29
tristanmikecius, try alsamixer but play around with the "Wave" settings04:29
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Seveas!tell HatchLing about sudo04:29
HatchLingvengeful: It still asks me for a password.04:29
vengefulyes same as user pass] 04:29
esacanybody know why amaroK would disappear from the menu? if i type amarok in a shell it works. the applications menu editor shows that it should be there and enabled ... ?04:30
ciustristanmike, I've played around with alsamixer till I'm sick in the head and I can't get the rear channels to peep04:30
mahangu_can i set transparency on windows?04:30
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mahangu_esac, what do you use to edit app menus?04:30
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AdmiralSenn bah04:30
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esacmahangu_: applications->system tools->applications menu editor04:31
eoloHatchLing: You write "sudo" before the command you want to execute with root rivileges and you enter your password when it asks for...04:31
eolo(in ubuntu)04:31
tristanmikecius, I couldn't either, untill I played with "Wave", I would never have even touched it untill, well, unitll I came here04:31
esacmahangu_: aka smeg i guess04:31
mahangu_esac, i don't have it, must be b/c im still on hoary04:31
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ciustristanmike, I'm just looking at it now and it appears I don't even have a "wave" option...04:32
naliothubotu: tell mahangu_ about smeg04:32
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mahangu_nalioth, what's that backports URI again?04:33
natedoggI did everything in the unoffical guide to fix sound, didn't work. My computer Is a laptop if this helps.04:33
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avenhi04:33
avendoesn't ubuntu come with 'make'?04:33
AdmiralSennwell...04:33
natedogganyone have any ideas?04:33
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AdmiralSennin any case, the script is useless to me04:33
naliothaven: install "build-essential"04:33
naliothubotu: tell mahangu_ about backports04:34
tristanmikecius, I have "Wave", "Wave Surnd" and other stuff like that, untill I raised the bar on those, I had no rear speakers04:34
natedoggcan't get sound to work, please help04:34
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ciustristanmike, I'll try to play around some more.  I have a lot of different settings in there, but none of them say anything about wave.  I'll look again though, just to make sure.04:34
avennalioth, http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=build-essential ?04:34
vengefulmade sure its not muted i take it04:34
lakinso how do I tell ubotu a new tidbit of knowledge: Specifically that when you get the Operation not permitted for inserting the ndiswrapper, it's because you've probably installed the improper driver.  /me smacks himself04:35
ciustristanmike, I appreciate your help.04:35
vengefulotherwise..no clue ;-_04:35
tristanmikecius, np04:35
s3[mn] rainI am trying to configure my synaptics touchpad, I got vertical scrolling to work, but I cant get horizontal scrolling to work, I have specified "LeftRightScrolling" "1" in my xorg.conf, what else am I missing?04:35
naliothaven: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install build-essentials"04:35
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natedoggI cannot get wav files to work at all, nor mp3 files. I have done the fix sound thing. still no workie. it has my soundcard selected ad the right device, can anyone help meh04:36
AdmiralSennoh crap04:36
MadpilotPPCnatedogg, do you have mp3 codecs and such installed?04:36
avennalioth, awsome, thanks :D04:36
natedoggyes, I have all the codecs installed04:37
natedogglame is installed04:37
Tortelooo04:37
Tortelxmms04:37
Tortel:)04:37
natedoggI tried usingxmms as well as rythym box04:37
AdmiralSenncrap!04:37
natedoggI cant even get the files in the sound pref's to play, and they are wav files...04:37
AdmiralSennsources.list is GONE04:37
mahangu_nalioth, im getting unresolved dependencies04:38
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KJHELLO04:38
KJCAN anyone help me about configuring UBUNTU04:38
Seveas!tell KJ about ask04:38
ciustristanmike, found something interesting, I've got a setting called Exchange front/surround, its default off, but when i turn it on, my front channels go out and my rears come on...04:39
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silent_screamhi all04:39
natedoggso nobody's got any idea how to fix my problem?04:39
naliothmahangu_: doing what?04:39
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silent_screamhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7129304:39
tristanmikecius, do you have a "fader" button on your speakers, may have to toy with that, it always goes out on me without my knowledge04:39
silent_screamthats my prob04:39
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mahangu_nalioth, added repo, did apt-get update, and then did apt-get install smeg04:40
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mahangu_it looks for  a python lib and doesnt find it04:40
mahangu_says to check my sources.list04:41
naliothmahangu_: use the installsmeg script from the smeg homepage04:41
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AdmiralSennokay, can anyone help me replace my sources.list?04:41
AdmiralSennsomehow it's been deleted04:41
naliothubotu: tell AdmiralSenn about sources04:42
naliothAdmiralSenn: you can use that one04:42
AdmiralSennthanks04:42
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AdmiralSennoh crap04:43
AdmiralSennbunch of errors04:44
ciustristanmike, AH!  found it! a setting with the obscure name "spread front to suround and center/LFE.  now all speakers work.  But, I though LFE was supposed to be some kind of software surround, not hardware...  maybe I don't know my own chipset well enough.04:44
ciusthere was supposed to be an end quotation in there somewhere...04:44
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tristanmikecius, see, that was my problem, like why would "Wave" control my surround, oh well, it does04:44
mahangu_nalioth, thanks04:44
mahangu_ubotu, tell lastnode !smeg04:44
mahangu_wtf04:45
naliothmahangu_: it's "ubotu tell <nick> about <factoid>04:45
ciustristanmike, yea, I suppose the important thing is that it now works.  thanks again for you help!04:45
Trashcan!tell lastnode about smeg04:45
os2macso can anyone speak to the problems I can expect by installing Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 8600?04:45
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Tortel!tell me about me04:45
KJhello04:45
tristanmikecius, np04:45
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Tortel!tell works too04:45
KJits my first time to use linux04:45
KJcan anyone teach me04:46
Tortel!tell KJ about linux04:46
naliothKJ: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation04:46
DAC1138!tell KJ about books04:46
astrob24!tell me about linux04:46
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astrob24!tell me about ubuntu04:46
DAC1138!tell me about me04:46
nomasteryoda|wyouguys gonna burn out the bot04:47
naliothubotu: botabuse04:47
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.04:47
astrob24:) lol04:47
mahangu_ubotu, tell lastnode about smeg04:47
KJhow can i share a folder under ubunto OS on a windows network?04:47
GhostFreemanCan I ssh into an ubuntu system from gdm?04:47
DAC1138that read wrong04:47
naliothKJ: yes you can. use samba04:47
DAC1138i dont want to "play" with any bot04:47
GhostFreemanlet me make that clear, can I ssh in once it boots up GDM?04:47
nomasteryoda|w!tell GhostFreeman about ssh04:47
naliothGhostFreeman: if your ubuntu is set up for ssh, yes04:47
astrob24!tell me about ssh04:48
os2mac!tell os2mac about Ubuntu04:48
GhostFreemanI have sshd running in it04:48
KJhow can i share a folder under ubunto OS on a windows network?04:48
naliothGhostFreeman: then go right ahead04:48
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naliothKJ: linux is about helping ones self. samba is the protocol used to share folders with windows04:48
KJcan anyone help?04:49
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KJhow can i share a folder under ubunto OS on a windows network?04:49
natedoggOkay, I have not been able to get sound at all. Nothing when I login04:49
natedoggCannot play .wav files or mp3 files. I have installed all of the media codecs as directed in the unoffical guide04:49
natedoggThe machine i'm using is a laptop,04:49
natedoggThe choices of devices I have are: Inel-82801DB-ICH4 (Asla Mixer)04:49
natedogg                                                      Analog Device AD1981B (OSS Mixer)04:49
natedoggI have tried with both devices and none worked for some reason.04:49
natedoggI have no idea why this is happening, I have done everything the Unnofical FAQ said to do to "Fix Sound" I would appericate any sort of help for this, THanks.04:49
CaptainMorgananybody recommend a virus scanner ? detector? not sure how it works for Linux/Ubuntu04:49
KJwhere can i get samba?04:49
vengefulheheh04:49
DAC1138CaptainMorgan, freshmeat.net can show you04:49
vengefulCaptain...you have to be very unlucky to get a virus in linux04:50
CaptainMorganhmm..k'04:50
os2macand very careless.04:50
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DAC1138vengeful, in linux, yes, but they can still hide in emails and be forwarded to windows machines on the network04:50
KJnalioth:where can i download samba04:50
os2macmost virii are using windows exploits04:50
DAC1138KJ, apt-get samba04:50
silent_screamhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71293          that's my prob...04:50
naliothubotu: tell KJ about synaptic04:50
mahangu_list of supported webcam drivers anyone?04:50
naliothKJ: google is a great teacher04:50
os2macKJ actually it should be apt-get install samba04:51
GhostFreemanhow do I get ubotu to talk to me04:51
GhostFreemanI need to ask him about Samba04:51
DAC1138GhostFreeman, buy it a drink04:51
vengefulgive him a sandwich04:51
natedogghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71303 anyone help me with my post04:51
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nomasteryoda|w!tell GhostFreeman about samba04:51
nomasteryoda|wlike that04:51
KJhow is that nalioth?04:51
os2mac!tell GhostFreeman about synaptic04:51
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naliothKJ: you ask uncle google "samba howto" and learn04:52
KJdoes samba works on redhat too?04:52
naliothKJ: samba works on all *nix04:52
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mahangu_nalioth, web cam drivers supported by ubuntu?04:53
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yaaarword04:53
naliothmahangu_: some are04:53
yaaari'm having a dumb problem.....i can't seem to get my fat32 hard drive to mount read-write04:53
GhostFreemanman, I haven't used this system in ages04:53
mahangu_nalioth, is htere a list?04:53
naliothubotu: tell yaaar about windowsdrives04:53
GhostFreemanI still have all those KDE packages I need to remove!04:53
yaaari put umask=000 in the fstab, but04:53
naliothmahangu_: not sure04:53
mahangu_nalioth, thanks04:54
silent_scream!solve my problem04:54
ubotusilent_scream: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:54
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silent_screamwhy are you sayng that ubotu?04:54
MadpilotPPC!+ubotu04:55
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:55
silent_scream?04:55
bob2silent_scream: er, because you're being silly and expecting a perl script to help you04:55
mahangu_nalioth, how do install .deb package?04:56
bob2mahangu_: generally, you don't04:56
bob2mahangu_: if you have to, sudo dpkg -i blah.deb04:56
mahangu_bob2, im downloading smeg.deb04:56
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naliothmahangu_: use the script, it's easier04:57
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mahangu_nalioth, what script?04:57
altnamehow do I mount my c drive?04:57
altnamepls I need this quick04:58
nomasteryoda|waltname, it's a XP drive?04:58
altnamentsf04:58
naliothmahangu_: the installsmeg script on the smeg homepage04:58
altnamei just need to access a file04:58
altnamejust to read it04:58
nomasteryoda|wwe need to know altname04:58
nomasteryoda|wto help you04:58
ScatterBrainaltname: do you know which /dev/hdX it is?04:58
altnameyes it's a xp drive04:58
nomasteryoda|wk04:58
altnameit's drive c:04:58
vengefulhehe04:58
altnameno idea which dev/hd it is04:58
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nomasteryoda|waltname, does not matter to linux if its c or x04:59
nomasteryoda|waltname, open a terminal04:59
altnamehow do I check04:59
altnameyes open04:59
nomasteryoda|wsudo -s04:59
ThunderguyWindows sets Letters to hard drives....04:59
ThunderguyLinux != Windows04:59
nomasteryoda|wfdisk -l04:59
nomasteryoda|wto see which partition it is on04:59
altnamehda104:59
ScatterBrainaltname: sudo fdisk -l04:59
nomasteryoda|wor that04:59
altnameit's /dev/hda104:59
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Thunderguyhd <- hard drive, a <- first hard drive, 1 <- first partition: HDA1 <- 1st hard drive, 1st partition05:00
ScatterBrainaltname: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/[mount point] 05:00
nomasteryoda|wmkdir /mnt/windows05:00
nomasteryoda|wmount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows05:00
solidgroovehttp://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found05:01
Thunderguy/dev <- a folder to keep track of all your devices05:01
bob2solidgroove: complain on the forums, not here05:01
nomasteryoda|wsolidgroove, backports is broken05:01
nomasteryoda|wlol05:01
bob2solidgroove: or, better still, don't use them05:01
altnamemount: special device /dev/hda1/ does not exist05:01
altname       (a path prefix is not a directory)05:01
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altnamehow odd05:01
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altname   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System05:01
altname/dev/hda1               1        3590    28836643+   7  HPFS/NTFS05:01
altname/dev/hda2   *        3591        4809     9791617+  83  Linux05:01
altname/dev/hda3            4810        4866      457852+   5  Extended05:01
altname/dev/hda5            4810        4866      457821   82  Linux swap / Solaris05:01
yaaarnalioth; that script put a pretty weird line in my fstab....i mounted it, and for a minute it acted like it was working right.....i deleted a file from it, and moved one to it....but after those two operations, i can't delete any more files off it. wtf?05:02
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naliothyaaar: what script?05:02
yaaarnalioth; the one that the bot gave me the link to.05:02
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vengefulnalioth..why kick him?05:02
naliothyaaar: winmac_fstab?05:02
ScatterBrainAnyone know where I can get w32codecs if not from backports?05:02
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naliothubotu: tell ScatterBrain about w32codecs05:03
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yaaarnalioth; i'd have rather just figured out the fstab line on my own....but it put in a line there, and i can mount the drive, but it's behaving weidly05:03
altnametest05:03
altnamebah sorry05:03
altnamepasted05:03
altnameI can't mount it for some reason05:03
naliothyaaar: the script has worked for hundreds of folks05:03
gp_aaronwhat is winmac_fstab?05:03
naliothubotu: tell gp_aaron about ntfs05:03
nomasteryoda|waltname, dude05:04
altnameyes05:04
nomasteryoda|waltname, did you type sudo05:04
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gp_aaronI know ntfs05:04
altnameyes05:04
gp_aaronbut what is winmac_fstab05:04
vengefulaltname do it without the / on the end05:04
gp_aarona script?05:04
pluffsyanyone here who knows bluefish? couldn't find this in the wiki: where the heck is the menu (that I guess exists) for speedy access to all functions in the open file?05:04
altnamenot working05:04
wickedpuppygp_aaron, you know whats fstab ?05:04
naliothgp_aaron: read waht the bot sent you05:04
altnamesudo mount /dev/hda1/ /mnt/windows05:04
altnameis what i'm doing05:04
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altnamemount: special device /dev/hda1/ does not exist05:05
altname       (a path prefix is not a directory)05:05
gp_aaronnalioth: oh05:05
nomasteryoda|waltname, drop the "extra /"05:05
gp_aaronI didn't notice the pm05:05
altnamemy bad05:05
yaaarnalioth; well, maybe it's worked for lot's of people.....but when i drag a file to that folder, i get "you do not have permissions to write to this folder"05:05
altnameokay05:05
altnamegot it05:05
altnamethanks guys05:05
ScatterBrainnalioth: Thanks.05:05
nomasteryoda|walt do you have a # or $ on terminal now?05:05
Thunderguyaltname:05:05
naliothyaaar: is it fat32?05:06
ThunderguyThat appears to be NTFS, I wouldn't recommend writing to it.05:06
yaaarnalioth; yep05:06
gp_aaronwhat is with the backports?05:06
nomasteryoda|wThunderguy, he wants one file from it05:06
naliothgp_aaron: down atm05:06
Thunderguyk.05:06
nomasteryoda|waltname, well??05:06
altnameI can't seem to open it05:06
nomasteryoda|waltname, because you will not be able to see it05:06
nomasteryoda|wusing nautilus05:06
gp_aaron(N)05:06
altnamewhat do I need to do then?05:06
nomasteryoda|waltname, sudo nautilus --browser05:07
gp_aaronbrb05:07
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nomasteryoda|waltname, default setting for ntfs partitions is sudo access only05:07
altnamei see05:07
nomasteryoda|wk05:07
altnamethnx I'm off05:07
altnamesleep05:07
altnamethnx again05:07
vengefulcya05:07
yaaarnalioth; i was able to delete one file, and to move one file to the drive. but since then it won't do anything....moving a file to the drive gives the above, and deleting gives "could not move item to .trash_todd. You do not have permission to write to the folder."05:07
silent_screamhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71293          that's my prob...05:08
yaaarnalioth; if i try to delete the .trash_todd folder, it says "could not delete .trash_todd, because the disk it is on is read-only."05:08
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naliothyaaar: open a terminal and type "man chmod"05:09
yaaarnalioth; i am already familiar with chmod05:09
naliothyaaar: if it's fat32, change the permissions05:09
GhostFreemanis ubuntu-desktop an important package?05:10
nomasteryoda|wbut you can only change permissons on the mount point05:10
naliothGhostFreeman: only when upgrading05:10
GhostFreemanwell i'm not upgrading05:10
GhostFreemani05:10
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GhostFreemani05:10
yaaarnalioth; i umounted it and mounted again and it now allows me to delete stuff again.....i just don't know why it spontaneously quit.05:10
GhostFreemani'm trying not to hit enter, and i'm also uninstalling all previous traces of samba so I can try again05:11
GhostFreemanis it safe to remove it?05:11
naliothGhostFreeman: as long as you have it for major upgrades05:11
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yaaarnalioth; and what's with this trash folder on the disk? can i make that not be there?05:11
naliothGhostFreeman: like from hoary to breezy05:11
GhostFreemanI don't think i'll be using Gnome for a while on this system, so i'll just pull it05:11
GhostFreemanthanks05:11
mahangu_anyone used webcams with ubuntu?05:11
vengefulwhat do you use ghost05:11
naliothyaaar: the system makes a trash folder on each mounted partition, i believe05:12
nomasteryoda|wwow... in the past hour 2 more updates are available... lol05:12
dooglusyaaar: can you cd into the trash folder?05:12
yaaarnalioth; yeah, i get it....i just don't like it05:12
GhostFreemanHoary05:12
yaaardooglus: yeah05:12
GhostFreemanI had samba installed before but my previous success wasn't great so I decided to remove it05:12
dooglusyaaar: what do you see if you cd into it, and then run this:05:12
vengefuli meant windows manager05:12
dooglusmount | grep "on $(/bin/df . | tail -1 | awk '{print $6}') "05:12
mahangu_my device manager shows it05:12
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GhostFreemanit kept smbclient and samba-common though05:12
yaaar /dev/hdb1 on /media/storage type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)05:13
naliothyaaar: you dont like that. use kde. it hides trash(es) everywhere05:13
doogluswhat's dmask do?05:13
ThunderguyDoes apt-get dist-upgrade add in the new kernel?05:13
yaaardooglus: i dunno....that script made that line. i was used to using umask=000, but that didn't work today for some reason...05:14
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dooglusmount | grep "on $(/bin/df . | tail -1 | awk '{print $6}') "05:14
dooglusoops05:14
GhostFreemanI've had the same problem on my FAT32 drive05:14
propagandhiThunderguy: it does when i do it05:14
dooglusdmask is "umask for directories", and it is the octal map of permissions that you do not want directories to have05:14
GhostFreemanI can't write anything to it05:14
Thunderguyk.05:14
dooglusyaaar: what do you see if you "ls -ld ." in the trash folder?05:15
Toma-anyone know if k-jofol can do winamp modern skins?05:15
nomasteryoda|wGhostFreeman, can you do it as sudo?05:15
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bob2mahangu_: lots of people are05:15
GhostFreemanI haven't tried05:15
bob2mahangu_: you really do need to provide a lot more detail, tho05:15
GhostFreemanI havent been on this system in so long05:15
esacdoes anybody know if it is possible to use fluxbox style tabs in gnome ? any add ins or anything ?05:15
bob2Thunderguy: depends05:15
GhostFreemani'll try with Sudo, though05:15
yaaardooglus; drwxrwxrwx  2 root root 16384 2005-10-02 22:09 .05:15
mahangu_bob2, logitech quick cam zoom, xsane picks it up05:15
bob2Thunderguy: if you have ubuntu-desktop installed, yes, if there is a new default one, you will get it05:15
mahangu_but wont scan from it05:16
bob2esac: that's a metacity thing, not a gnome thing05:16
bob2esac: you can use metacity with gnome if you like05:16
dooglusyaaar: I just noticed - you can delete now anyway - so we're not going to be able to work out what was wrong I guess05:16
propagandhiesac: have you looked at art.gnome.org05:16
yaaardooglus: no, it stopped working again05:16
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bob2esac: er, you can use fluxbox if you like05:16
zone17Hi, how many packages does ubuntu actually contain? Both stable, unstable and so? How can I get a complete overview without searching for a specific package?05:16
esacerr i dont mean style of the tabs, i mean being able to middle click a window and drag it onto another, and have it add it as a tab to that window05:16
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yaaardooglus: again i was able to do 2 things. i deleted one item, moved one, and now it won't let me anymore05:17
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mahangu_bob2, failed to start scanner - invalid argument05:17
nomasteryoda|wzone17, huh?05:17
nomasteryoda|wlike why>05:17
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nomasteryoda|wzone17, there are as many as you need...05:17
bob2zone17: on the order of 15 00005:17
nomasteryoda|wyea05:17
bob2zone17: perhaps 2 or 3 versions of each05:17
nomasteryoda|w15,00005:17
nomasteryoda|w+05:17
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yaaardooglus: the perms on the folder show 77705:17
GhostFreemananyways, im going back into Windows05:17
zone17I found it, http://packages.ubuntu.com/05:17
GhostFreemanoops wrong channel05:18
bob2esac: if you want that, perhaps you want fluxbox as your wm05:18
dooglusyaaar: so what do you see if you "/bin/rm -fr trash" in the parent of the trash folder?  (assuming you want to delete all the contents)05:18
propagandhicant u just set Synaptic to list the packages alphabetically05:18
Trashcanstop talking about trash, its making xchat beep :p05:18
esacbob2: ive tried it and in all other aspects i don't like fluxbox. just the tabs and grouping05:18
pbutterhey guys, i just installed a new copy of ubuntu, however its on a real old laptop... how can i make it not so bloated05:18
pbutteri was thinking about going back to debian sid becuase it runs faster, but ubuntu is so nice, how can i make it go faster?05:19
dooglusTrashcan: there used to be a guy here called radeon who complained much the same whenever anyone talked about their graphics card...05:19
yaaardooglus:05:19
yaaartodd@todd:/media/storage$ rm -rf .Trash-todd/05:19
yaaarrm: cannot remove `.Trash-todd//avg6db_f.dat': Read-only file system05:19
zone17nomasteryoda|w, as many as I need, how would u know? :P05:19
yaaarrm: cannot remove `.Trash-todd//Audio Books Stephen King - Dark Tower I - The Gunslinger Complete.mp3': Read-only file system05:19
zone17nomasteryoda|w, the information is for a specific project05:19
nomasteryoda|wzone17, i mean as many as you could need.. if you want to use Ubuntu... and can build most anything you need05:19
nomasteryoda|wok05:19
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dooglusyaaar: and what about "df .Trash-todd/avg6db_f.dat" ?05:20
yaaardooglus: don't you mean du?05:21
dooglusno05:21
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Daveyhow can I umount the ubuntu live cd to load in something else? :/05:21
yaaaruh...ok....05:21
yaaarFilesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on05:21
yaaar/dev/hdb1            244992064 219303440  25688624  90% /media/storage05:21
dooglusdu will show disk usage.  i want to know the filesystem05:21
bob2yaaar: that's pretty clear.../media/storage is mounted read-only05:21
nomasteryoda|wchimpee, and apt-get here05:21
nomasteryoda|wchimpee, and suse05:21
bob2yaaar: show us the output of "mount | grep storage"05:22
TrekCyclingcan anyone give me an idea of where the best place to put a global environmental variable is in Ubuntu?05:22
bob2TrekCycling: to do what?05:22
yaaarbob2: so, if it's mounted read-only, why did it let me delete the files right after i mounted it?05:22
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chimpeenomasteryoda|w, hmmm?05:22
TrekCyclingbob2, I want to define where to find JAVA_HOME, CATALINA_HOME, ANT_HOME, things like that...05:22
Daveyanyone? :)05:22
damed124can somebody help me i got a question05:22
dooglusbob2, he showed it before.  it's mounted rw05:22
yaaarbob2: /dev/hdb1 on /media/storage type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)05:22
TrekCyclingbob2, Also add eclipse manually to the PATH05:22
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TrekCyclingI'm used to Red Hat and putting it in /etc/profile.d/java.sh05:23
Trashcandamed124 : dont ask to ask, just ask05:23
damed124can somebody teach me to install things05:23
propagandhizone17: http://packages.ubuntu.com05:23
bob2yaaar: ? that seems unrelated.05:23
Trashcan!tell damed124 about packages05:23
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yaaarbob2: what seems unrelated? that's the output of the command you asked me to run...05:23
bob2yaaar: ls -ld /media/storage/.Trash-todd//avg6db_f.dat05:23
dooglusbob2: I don't think that's unrelated.  that's the device his trash is on, I think05:23
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bob2TrekCycling: /etc/bash.bashrc or so05:24
Zealothello?05:24
Zealotjo05:24
yaaarbob2: -r--r--r--  1 root root 34786 2005-05-09 01:51 /media/storage/.Trash-todd//avg6db_f.dat05:24
naliothubotu: tell damed124 about synaptic05:24
bob2damed124: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto05:24
TrekCyclingalso, anyone know where to find mysql? I'm using Colony 5 and it's not in the repositories05:24
bob2TrekCycling: sure it is05:24
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Zealotso is there a way you can raise the resolution above 1024x768?!05:24
bob2TrekCycling: mysql-server05:24
pluffsyhow do you people jump between functions in kate, gedit or bluefish?05:24
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bob2Zealot: of course...http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:24
naliothubotu: tell Zealot about fixres05:24
pluffsyfunctions in the source that is...05:24
bob2pluffsy: by using emacs05:24
Zealotthanks guys!05:24
doogluspluffsy: get a proper editor!05:25
bob2yaaar: ls -ld /media/storage/.Trash-todd/05:25
wickedpuppypluffsy, ah those are not source editors05:25
TrekCyclingI can't find it under "Add Applications"05:25
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!alindeman:*! Regional server split; affected users ~ 36505:25
Colloidwhen's breezy due?05:25
wickedpuppyTrekCycling, use synaptic05:25
wickedpuppyColloid, 13th05:25
bob2TrekCycling: then ignore that05:25
propagandhithats weird05:25
yaaardrwxrwxrwx  2 root root 16384 2005-10-02 22:09 /media/storage/.Trash-todd/05:25
bob2TrekCycling: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto05:25
vengefuli have the preview on colloid..seems to work fine05:25
esacthis is a general linux question, but is it possible to "copy" the output to stdout to a file. for example, i run "sudo apt-get install fluxbox", i want the output to be saved to ~/installs/fluxbox, but also print output to stdout so that if there is an interactive prompt i can still respond05:26
propagandhiall the users on the asimov server are going fast05:26
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Colloidesac: absolutely05:26
wickedpuppyesac, tee05:26
apokryphos*Colony 5 (and release-date note)05:26
TrekCyclingThanks05:26
esacthank you wickedpuppy05:26
naliothapokryphos: fix it05:26
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dooglusbob2: how would you go to the next function in emacs?05:27
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wickedpuppydooglus, ask in #emacs05:27
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TrekCyclingWeird that there's a difference between synaptic and Add Applications. Cool05:27
KJthanks a lot05:28
NoNickhello05:28
wickedpuppyTrekCycling, i never use add application :P05:28
doogluswickedpuppy: I did, but he's not in there.05:28
wickedpuppywho is he ?05:28
MrShifty|lappybob2: nalioth said that you're the person to ask about wireless card support05:28
damed124i still dont understand on how to install05:28
wickedpuppydamed124, which part ?05:28
doogluswickedpuppy: I was asking bob2.  he suggested "use emacs" when pluffsy asked how to jump between functions05:28
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maewhats a good source code editor?05:28
pluffsybut I usually write code on my mac. and I have a deadline on a php project tomorrow, so I really don't have time to learn emacs tonight even though it's probably a great editor, and I'm trying to learn it.05:28
pluffsyI just need something with a gui that highlights text, have some way to jump between functions and can indent lines.05:29
MadpilotPPCdamed124, how to install what?05:29
damed124to install things on ubuntu05:29
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TrekCyclingwickedpuppy, Thanks. :-)05:29
pluffsywickedpuppy, is bluefish not? is the site bullshitting me :( "Bluefish is a powerful editor for experienced web designers and programmers. "05:29
TrekCyclingthanks, bob205:29
MadpilotPPC!tell damed124 about synaptic05:29
wickedpuppypluffsy, bluefish or not ?05:29
doogluspluffsy: sounds like emacs to me.05:29
wickedpuppywhat am i to make of this question ?05:29
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damed124install like programs and stuff like that05:29
naliothMrShifty|lappy: guess bob2 aint here atm (he knows everything)05:29
MadpilotPPCdamed124, see the msg you just got from ubotu, it's got a good URL in it...05:29
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wickedpuppypluffsy, bluefish = web editor ... do you code java in dreamweaver ?05:29
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:apokryphos] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | Breezy Colony 5 (official release: Oct 13): http://tinyurl.com/85dry | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting
Rylie#ubuntu-offtopic05:30
MadpilotPPCwickedpuppy, Bluefish itself is now coded in Bluefish, according to their own website...05:30
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DavidLeeRothits easy apt-get install dist-upgrade05:30
DavidLeeRoththats it05:30
Zealoti went through the xserv thingy but nothing happened05:30
Zealotit still wont let me go above 102405:30
pluffsydooglus: but it seems like I would have to learn atleast 30 short cuts to get anything done :p seems a bit much for an evening. damn... maybe that's the only way on linux.05:30
wickedpuppyno kid ... well guess you can do mysql in notepad too .. but who does ?05:30
vengefulwhats your q mrshifty..im no where near as good as bob2 but i managed to get it working on 3 systems05:30
wickedpuppypluffsy, why you need to jump to functions ??? won't scroll down do the job ?05:31
BabbageHello, I don't seem to get /dev/scd0 appearing any more, even when there is a CD in the drive.   Have I screwed up (1) udev (2) hotplug or (3) something else?05:31
propagandhiZealot: whats your max resolution05:31
doogluspluffsy: you don't need to learn anything - just use the gui05:31
Zealotwell it says its 1024x76805:31
naliothZealot: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the resolutions you want05:31
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damed124thanks everybody who helped me05:31
propagandhiZealot: yeah but what resolution are you seeking05:31
fivreHey, I remember having a script that would automatically detect, mount, add to /etc/fstab, and set to mount at startup all available partitions. Does anyone know where to find it?05:32
Zealot1152x8something, i dont remember the exact number05:32
naliothubotu: tell fivre about ntfs05:32
NoNickfivre : Google05:32
Zealoti went through this xserver thingy05:32
Zealotand nothing happened05:32
naliothZealot: i just sent you a command to try05:32
propagandhiwell you'd need to know what resolution you want05:32
wickedpuppyZealot, does your graphics card support those numbers ???05:32
BabbageZealot, probably 864 if it's a 4:3 aspect ratio05:33
Zealotyeah05:33
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Zealoti used to use it on windows05:33
fivrethanks nalioth05:33
Gorth!multimedia05:33
ubotuit has been said that multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia05:33
pluffsywickedpuppy, well I can, but it takes hell of a lot more time having to scroll by hand every time I switch function. having to remember in which order the functions are in the file, etc.05:33
yaaarman this is ridiculous. does anybody have any clue why when i mount this fat32 drive i can delete 1 file, and then it starts acting like it's read-only?05:33
Toma-how do u list what files came with a deb package?05:33
Zealotwhat is the PCI bus idenitfier and how do i find out what it is?05:33
Colloidi'm excited for breezy, is it sexier?05:33
pluffsyshould I use xemacs or emacs?05:33
Colloidany change to the wireless support for lappys05:33
Babbageyaaar, does "mount" say that it IS read-only?05:33
wickedpuppypluffsy, if you have too much functions in one file ... it means you need to break it to header files05:33
MadpilotPPCColloid, wireless has gotten a lot better overall in Breezy, apparently05:34
doogluspluffsy: it doesn't matter05:34
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wickedpuppypluffsy, pls ... try both and choose what you want05:34
Zealotso does anyone know what i can do05:34
Babbagepluffsy, why not just use tags?05:34
propagandhibreezy does have some graphical enhancements, but its not just the look that gets better05:34
ColloidMadpilotPPC: apparantly?05:34
Zealothow do i find what the pci bus identifier is05:34
pluffsydooglus, thanks.05:34
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Babbage!lspci05:34
ubotuBabbage: What?05:34
MadpilotPPCapparently, then... ;)05:34
Daveyumount you bastid!05:34
pluffsyBabbage, sorry?05:34
yaaarBabbage: no. and like i said, it lets me delete one file each time i mount it. then....no more05:34
Zealotor the video card bus identifier05:34
BabbageZealot, use lspci05:34
dooglus(well, it does kind of matter, but not to you)05:34
Zealotwhat is that and how do i use it :P05:34
calcZealot: run it at command line05:34
Babbageyaaar, what does /var/log/messages tell you about what is happening?05:35
calcit ls the pci bus05:35
calclike ls for the fs05:35
BabbageHello, I don't seem to get /dev/scd0 appearing any more, even when there is a CD in the drive.   Have I screwed up (1) udev (2) hotplug or (3) something else?05:35
calceg05:35
calc0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]  (Secondary)05:35
Colloidcan anyone verify that wireless support is better in breezy?05:35
propagandhii cna05:35
propagandhican05:35
Zealotbut i still cant get my resolution to go any higher05:35
calcColloid: for small values of better yes05:35
naliothColloid: of course it is05:35
wickedpuppyBabbage, cd is cdrom0 cdrom1 ??05:35
DaveyColloid, it doesn't detect my laptop NIC, need ndiswrapper for that05:35
durti cant say its any different colloid05:36
calcaiui breezy+1 will have network manager integration05:36
naliothZealot: when you run the dpkg-reconfigure, do you see the section for resolutions?05:36
vengefulcolloid theres still no out of the box wpa support atm05:36
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vengefulwep works ok though05:36
calchopefully with proper wpa-supplicant support as well05:36
vengefuleven on little unkown wireless cards05:36
Zealothow do i run that?05:36
Babbagewickedpuppy, yes, it should be but of course that is (I think) usually just a symlink to /dev/scd*05:36
propagandhithey've added better bluetooth utilities et05:36
propagandhietc05:36
Zealotnalioth, how do i run that05:36
calcvengeful: wep of course being less than useless05:36
vengefulwhys that calc?05:36
calcvengeful: it gives you a false sense of security since it can be broken in roughly 5min05:36
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naliothZealot: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the resolutions you want05:36
wickedpuppyBabbage, mine are pointing to hdc and hdd05:37
wickedpuppyn ot to scd05:37
wickedpuppynot05:37
Babbagecalc, not that quickly and it depends on traffic volume.  4h-8h is more realistic for a busy network05:37
calcvengeful: the only really secure wireless stuff right not that i know of is the wpa2/aes stuff05:37
propagandhiand it can take days05:37
svrefI'm halfway through an install.  I need to make a swap FILE.  I need root privs to make a swap file.  Ubuntu hasn't asked me to set a root password yet.  What is it until then?05:37
calcBabbage: iirc the amount needed if the network is at peak utilization was about 5min05:37
Babbagewickedpuppy, are you running udevd?05:37
naliothubotu: tell svref about root05:38
vengefulcalc...if i lived near people capable of that...i think id have problems hehe05:38
calcBabbage: though i don't remember where i read that, was a couple years ago05:38
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wickedpuppyi am running breezy ...05:38
wickedpuppyaren't you ?05:38
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BabbageNo, I am running Hoary05:38
wickedpuppyi don't think there is any difference ... unless you recompiled the kernel05:38
yaaarBabbage: man, i get really strange errors in the log: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/272605:38
Gorthhey guys05:38
Zealothow do i tell it to add an asterik to another screen resolution option?05:38
Gorthwhen i watch DVDs05:38
Gorthit'll like05:38
ThunderguyIs this pre-release of breezy, going to be the real release exactly as it is in the pre?05:38
wickedpuppyZealot, use space05:39
BabbageNo, I just installed 2.6.11-1-38605:39
Gorthpause for a split second05:39
Gorthevery few seconds05:39
Gorthis that normal05:39
wickedpuppybilly@wicked1:/dev$ uname -r05:39
wickedpuppy2.6.12-9-38605:39
MadpilotPPCGorth, the ENTER key is not punctuation...05:39
Gorthsorry :(05:39
vengefulcalc they have a higher lvl on encryption now05:39
Zealotok i added the asteriks to the new resolutions and still the screen resolution app wont let me go higheer05:39
MadpilotPPC!tell Gorth about dma05:39
vengefulmost people say wep is more secure than wpa..i dont pretend to be an expert tho05:40
Gorththanks!05:40
calcvengeful: you sure you aren't getting that backwards?05:40
Babbagevengeful, no, they don't say that at all.05:40
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yaaarcalc: was thinking the same thing05:40
Zealotso the xserver program isnt working what should i do?05:40
naliothZealot: uncheck the ones you DONT want05:40
calcvengeful: otherwise where did you ever hear wep was better?05:40
Zealotnalioth, do i have to do that?05:40
calcvengeful: WEP was cracked many years ago its considered less than useless by pretty much everyone05:40
vengefula few friends mentioned it05:40
wickedpuppyZealot, have you installed the drivers ? changed xorg.conf for the driver if necessary and so on and on ?05:40
doogluspluffsy: if you're going to be editing PHP code, xemacs comes with a php-mode, and emacs doesn't.05:41
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calcvengeful: with the right software you don't even have to think to crack it05:41
calcvengeful: now WPA/TKIP isn't much better than WEP but it is better05:41
doogluspluffsy: you can download php-mode for GNU Emacs, (emacs) - but XEmacs has it already.05:41
calcvengeful: WPA2/AES is secure05:41
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Zealotwickedpuppy, how do i know what drivers to install and where do i get them?05:41
vengefulah my router doesnt support wpa2 or aes anyway05:41
yaaarcalc: well, the big crack in wep was fixed a couple years ago. it isn't completely useless anymore....would take a good deal of effort to break into, but can be accomplished within the day or week most times05:41
calcvengeful: WPA/TKIP was a stopgap measure since AES in hardware takes a lot of processing power05:41
wickedpuppyZealot, what graphics card are you using ?? nvidia ? ati ?05:42
calcyaaar: wasn't the fix for wep to use non standard stuff from eg cisco?05:42
wickedpuppyZealot, you are not a newbie to linux ... are you ?05:42
calcyaaar: iirc the standard wep is still insecure05:42
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Zealotwickedpuppy, ati radeon 9200 se05:42
Zealotwickedpuppy, sorta05:42
dooglusvengeful: it goes like this : unencrypted < WEP < WPA < WPA205:42
calcyaaar: which was the whole point for coming out with wpa/wpa205:42
wickedpuppy!ati05:42
ubotuI heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx05:42
wickedpuppythere you go05:42
yaaarcalc: no, there's a second revision of wep, like around 2002. and it no longer has the unprotected 24 bit section of the key out there05:42
wickedpuppyread and follow it Zealot  :P05:42
Zealotthanks obuto05:42
Zealotubotu*05:43
calcyaaar: hmm ok05:43
yaaarcalc: that was the big easy crack. now you have to actually do the brute-force way, which takes a while05:43
wickedpuppyZealot, ubotu is a bot05:43
calcyaaar: ah05:43
mahanguwoo!05:43
vengefuli use 128 bit05:43
mahanguwtf it works anyway!05:43
mahanguyeehah05:43
Babbageyaaar, those messages mean that your FAT32 filesystem is fucked up.   The Linux FAT32 driver goes readonly to avoid fucking it up even more.05:43
mahangudude ubuntu rocks05:43
naliothBabbage: watch your tongue, please05:43
mahanguhere i was trying to compile drivers, but i thought wait a min05:43
mahangudropped back to the shell and did camgrab05:43
mahangupresto :)05:43
calci just use aes, it isn't going to get cracked anytime in the next few decades05:43
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yaaarBabbage: well, that's a pita. luckily, i have enough space to backup all of it and reformat. you don't think that indicates any hardware problem, do you?05:44
Babbagecafuego,05:44
Babbageyaaar, you could just run fsck.fat05:44
mahangunow to find an im client that supports web cam05:44
Zealothow do i see what version of ubuntu i have?05:44
yaaarBabbage: will that work while the drive is pretending it's ro?05:44
naliothZealot: in a term, type "lsb_release -a"05:44
dooglusyaaar: probably it came from powering down / crashing with unwritten changes.05:44
yaaarhmmm05:45
dooglusyaaar: you could try using windows scandisk to see if that can fix it - but backup first.05:45
calcor /etc/issue05:45
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yaaardooglus: well....if i had windows05:45
Babbageyaaar, "DriveReady SeekComplete Error" is an error from the drive.  So you could have a problem.  Try using PIO mode instead of DMA and see if the problem goes away05:45
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user_how to update video card hir in ubuntu?05:45
yaaarright on. well, it's late round here, so i'm crashing. catch you all later.05:47
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Babbagewickedpuppy, I think my hard disk looks like a SCSI disk simply because it's SATA.    I didn't even know...05:49
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dallasAny tips for getting a Radeon X700 working?05:50
tritium!tell dallas about ati05:50
mahanguany debian IM clients that support webcam>05:51
pluffsydamn my emacs doesn't seem to have default support for php. is it complicated to add support?05:51
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adrian_hOK, how can I get wireless working? "ifup eth1" gives me a "No such device" error05:51
poningrumahangu: its in the works05:52
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poningrugaim-vv05:52
dallasOK now that I've RTFM I'd like some help please05:52
poningrudallas: dude the ati cards will generall give you trouble05:52
tritiumadrian_h, does ifconfig list eth1?  What kind of chipset?05:53
poningruI would wait couple of days till Oct-1305:53
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vengefulwhich card adrian?05:53
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poofyhairouch05:54
NeloUbuntu in a laptop, when typing some text all the sudden other application takes focus. This makes typing a pain any ideas?05:54
adrian_htritium and vengeful: ifconfig doesn't list eth1. I have a Dell Latitude D610, which uses Intel PRO/wireless 2915 A/B/G (according to http://rdo.homelinux.org/ubuntu-linux-on-a-dell-latitude-d610/ )05:54
poningruwhen breazy comes out its going to have lots more hardware detection (hopefully work was done on ati cards)05:54
CarlFKNelo - hoary or breezy?>05:54
dooglusNelo: are you touching the mousepad?05:54
BabbageNelo, usually that happens because you brush the touchpad with part of your hand or your sleeve05:54
vengefuladrian...i have the pro wireless and it was detected ok in ubuntu05:54
Nelohoary05:54
BabbageNelo, so try switching from point-to-focus to click-to-focus and see if the problem goes away05:55
poningrudallas: also is it just not working?05:55
NeloCarlFK, dooglus andBabbage thanks..05:55
poningrudallas: as opposed to 3d not working?05:55
yarddoghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI05:55
dallasOK what's the default PCI identifier for the AGP slot?  Well I'm trying to get 3D working but now X is boned05:55
adrian_hvengeful: How can you tell? Does "ifup eth1" work for you?05:55
NeloBabbage where do i change this?05:55
tritiumipw2915?  hmm, I don't know if the ipw2100 or ipw2200 drivers will support that.  I tend to doubt it05:55
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adrian_htritium: I installed the ipw2200 drivers, on that Web page's recommendation.05:55
BabbageNelo, depends on your window manager, I don't know which the default WM is, I'm new to Ubuntu.05:55
crimsunthe 2915 is driven by the ipw2200 driver.05:56
Nelook. thanks05:56
yarddogthat wiki page works05:56
tritiumah, thanks, crimsun05:56
crimsunnp05:56
tritiumadrian_h, how did you install them?  is this hoary, and you compiled more recent modules?05:56
johnfightshow do you get sound working in ubuntu05:57
kevogodBreezy does not identify the title of the "Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne" play disc when mounted. Hoary did.05:57
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adrian_htritium: This is Kubuntu, and I did compile recent modules by following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2662305:57
calc2915 is nice i replaced the broadcom wireless in my amd64 with it05:57
BabbageWhich bit of software is supposed to create /dev/scd0 ?  udev?  hotplug?05:57
tritiumok, adrian_h.  Is the module loaded currently?05:57
crimsunBabbage: udev.05:57
adrian_htritium: According to "lsmod | grep ipw2200", yes.05:58
tritiumjohnfights, please provide more details on your sound setup05:58
Colloidhi i'm ubuntu05:58
tritiumadrian_h, okay, and ifconfig does not list it?05:58
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adrian_htritium: Correct. ifconfig lists only eth0 (ethernet) and lo05:59
LaptopZZhas anyone had a problem with the installer for 5.10 locking up at 'checking if image is initramfs'?05:59
tritiumcrimsun, heh, I should have read modinfo ipw2200 more carefully ;)05:59
chimpeei want to start an enterprise ubuntu distro05:59
naliothtritium: you in here causing trouble again?05:59
tritiumnalioth, definitely05:59
johnfightsi have a sound blaster live pci card and just installed ubuntu 5.1005:59
Babbagecrimsun, Thanks.    The link is not getting created.  How do I diagnose the problem?05:59
poningruchimpee: rofl05:59
crimsunchimpee: erm, there already exists one.05:59
poningruchimpee: there already is one05:59
poningruand its free05:59
chimpeewhere where05:59
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crimsunthe same place you download the "non-enterprise" edition06:00
poningruubuntulinux.org06:00
poningrudude its one and the same06:00
crimsunBabbage: look in dmesg06:00
tritiumadrian_h, hmm...06:00
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chimpeewell if its the same what makes it enterprise?06:00
CarlFKis there any support (.debs) for cifs?   http://linux-cifs.samba.org/06:00
calcchimpee: how long they support it06:00
adrian_htritium: Does it make any difference that I'm currently using eth0?06:01
calciirc 6.04 is going to be an enterprise release06:01
tritiumno, adrian_h06:01
tritiumadrian_h, any clues from dmesg, or any of the logfiles in /var/log?06:01
adrian_htritium: What should I grep for?06:01
chimpeecalc: is there a 6.04 preview?06:01
CarlFKhmm, maybe it is built in...06:01
calcchimpee: no 5.10 isn't even officially released yet06:02
chimpeeor a wiki06:02
dooglusNelo: apparently you can add a line saying "        Option          "SHMConfig"             "on"" to your xorg.conf, in the synaptics section.  this will turn off the touchpad while you're typing.06:02
tritiumadrian_h, perhaps Intel, or ipw06:02
Babbagebrb, trying 2.6.10 instead.06:02
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calcchimpee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/06:02
chimpeemethinks they should be separate for home desktop and enterprise06:02
Colloidhi, i'm ubuntu06:02
Colloidhow are you?06:02
kithehi, can I make a usb stick too boot the ubuntu installation from as possible with debian?06:03
crimsunkithe: yes06:03
adrian_htritium: The dmesg lines about "ipw2200" look normal, and /var/log/messages looks fine06:03
johnfightstritium, is there more you need to know06:03
calcchimpee: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-September/010876.html06:03
kithecrimsun: and pointing me to a guide or telling me how? I really need it06:03
tritiumjohnfights, I didn't see anything from you, sorry06:03
dooglusNelo: that's not quite right.  but read here, under "stopping accidental clicks" for details: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad06:03
CarlFKhmm, case anyone wants to know, cifs is in //dell17/dvd on /mnt/smb/dell17/dvd type cifs (rw,mand)06:04
johnfightsi have a sound blaster live pci card and just installed ubuntu 5.1006:04
crimsunjohnfights: what's the issue?06:04
ColloidI SAID HI I'M UBUNTU, HOW ARE YOU, GOD DAMN IT06:04
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crimsunColloid: chill. Now.06:04
naliothColloid: please d00d06:04
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steeltf guys what should i do with my life? i know this is a bit off topic but i wanted to be a programmer and so i studied that when i was young but i feel like cage fighting might be my true calling or maybe writing. i dont know guys. im confued. any thoughts?06:04
Nelodooglus thanks06:05
Colloidsteelf: become a lizard person06:05
naliothsteeltf: steel-cage-writer06:05
chimpeecalc nice.. thanks..06:05
CarlFKsteeltf - go beet on Colloid?06:05
dooglusNelo: looks like you have to turn on SHMConfig, then run that syndaemon thing.06:05
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AdmiralSenngah06:06
AdmiralSennsmeg is giving me grief06:06
chimpeeDapper Drake eh?06:06
chimpeewhat's a dapper06:06
johnfightsi put in a music cd and there is no sound06:06
AdmiralSennsays it needs python-xdg greater than or equal to .14, but I have .9-106:06
AdmiralSenn!tell me about smeg06:06
crispynixAdmiralSenn: try a menu editor with a less sucky name --- I think GNOME comes with one now. again.06:06
chimpee6.04 is a special number for me06:06
adrian_htritium: How does Linux know what my wireless interface is called? Is that entirely based on what I put in /etc/network/interfaces?06:06
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Nelodooglus thanks again...06:06
kitheanyone able to help me out with making a usb stick for booting ubuntu installation program so I can do a ftp install?06:07
chimpeei think i'll go to montreal06:07
johnfightscd player thing comes up but it doesnt play06:07
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AdmiralSennor.. I could just find out how to install it06:07
crimsunjohnfights: ok, those are two completely different issues06:07
dooglusNelo: no problem.  i just learned all that too - I'm about to restart X to try "iPod style circular scrolling" :)06:07
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crimsunjohnfights: first, do you have sound outside of using the cd player?06:07
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johnfightsno06:07
johnfightsdont have sound in anything06:08
crimsunjohnfights: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:08
pluffsyhow is curly braces made under linux?06:08
crimsun{}  <-- ?06:08
HrdwrBobpluffsy: press shift [ ?06:08
wickedpuppypluffsy, the same way as in windows06:08
naliothAdmiralSenn: use the installsmeg script06:09
chimpeedapper is actually a synonym of red hat....06:09
AdmiralSennI did06:09
AdmiralSennit broke06:09
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pluffsydamn... guess there is something wrong with keyboard encoding then... if it should work as normal (even though I don't know how you do under windows).06:09
johnfightswhere is amixer06:09
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AdmiralSenngot it06:09
AdmiralSennused the tarball06:09
crimsunjohnfights: open a Terminal and type it06:09
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chimpeewho decided to make the next version 6.04 ? why not 6.0 ?06:10
oneifreakchimpee: its based on the release year and month06:11
chimpeeahhh06:11
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chimpeesmart06:11
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yarddogclever06:11
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AdmiralSennstupid thing06:11
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chimpeelook for "604" ... you'll find a bunch of fluoro blacklight hippies on lsd on the beaches of goa06:11
johnfightsamixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory06:12
johnfights (another problem just found out firefox wont start)06:12
BabbageOh, FFS!   If I boot 2.6.10-5-386 then sound and CD work but my GPS device does not.  If I boot 2.6.11-1-386, the GPS device works, but sound ancd CD do not!    ARGH!06:12
BinaryDigitheh06:12
chimpee6.04 should have alot of appeal for the acid heads hehe06:12
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MiksuFIHi! I was wondering if anyone has experience with a WLAN running on the Buffalo WBR2G54 router and a Ralink RT 2500 pci card. It seems that ubuntu 5.04 does not understand the pci card.06:12
BinaryDigit5.10 breey does :)06:12
yarddoghow about 9.1006:12
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MiksuFIhaha serious06:13
BinaryDigiti have a ralink rt 2500 on both my pc and laptop and it worked out of the box!!!!06:13
BinaryDigiti was so happy :)06:13
tolstoyI used serpentine to burn a CD from flac files, but when I insert the new CD, every track has the same title.  Anyone else seen this?06:13
doogluschimpee: what's the acid connection with 6.04?06:13
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MiksuFIso i should download the 5.1006:13
crimsunjohnfights: lspci -v|grep -i audio06:13
BinaryDigiti recommend it, if you are doing a new install anyway06:13
MiksuFIok thank you06:13
vengefuldepends how hard you wanna work..i guess hehehe06:13
offby3Hi. Can anyone here tell me how to modify the executable path for gnome applications (NOT ones that are run in terminals, but launched from a GUI launcher)06:13
MiksuFIbtw, if i did try to make it run on 5.04, what should i do06:13
kithedoes ubuntu have a boot.img like debian does?=06:14
BinaryDigitalot of people suggest ndiswrapper06:14
vengefultried google already Miksu?06:14
chimpeedooglus: someone on acid looked at mailbag 604 and he thought it was "GOA"06:14
offby3Background (such as it is): I want to run Eclipse.  My JRE is added to my path in .bashrc.  Eclipse can't find that, apparently, since it's added to my path only in bash shells.06:14
chimpeedooglus: goa  happened to be the cradle of acid heads back then06:14
MiksuFIvengeful i thought this place had the "free support" tag on it :)06:14
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vengefulits not that miksu06:14
vengefulits just a specific question about hardware06:14
chimpeeand that's where psychedelic trance music originates from06:15
vengefuland theres more chance of a user on a forum having it that someone here06:15
johnfightscrimsun, want me to paste you the output in a message since i cant go to that site right now and paste06:15
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chimpeeso 604 means "trance music on the beaches of goa on a couple hits of acid" lol06:15
MiksuFIi apologize. that was the only problem anyway06:15
Babbageoffby3, create and edit ~/.xsession06:15
offby3I see06:16
MiksuFIi have this  thought that iwhen i get it to run my wlan the web is there and i do know  how to find help elsewhere06:16
doogluschimpee: interesting.  never heard of it before.  http://fusionanomaly.net/604.html06:16
johnfights0000:00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS06:16
vengefulnot a bad idea miksu06:16
BinaryDigitMiksuFI definately download breezy, you'll be happy :)06:16
offby3Is that a bash script?  I have a LOT of sub-divided common behaviour for my bashrc, split over a few files -- can I use the same logic?06:16
vengefuljust theres no one here active with same config06:16
offby3And...  how much overlap should there be?06:16
MiksuFIi will right now.06:16
dooglusoffby3: are you using gnome?06:16
offby3And... Will both .bashrc and .xsession be loaded if I open an xterm?06:16
offby3dooglus, yes06:16
Babbageoffby3, it is an executable.  It gets run.  It can be anyuthing.   A binary if you want!06:17
dooglusoffby3: gnome doesn't use .xsession.06:17
offby3Ah06:17
crimsunjohnfights: cat /proc/asound/modules06:17
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dooglusoffby3: put it in ~/.gnomerc instead06:17
johnfightsBinaryDigit, how do you upgrade to breezy do you need to download a new cd06:17
crimsunjohnfights: (that should not return anything)06:17
offby3dooglus, then the same questions apply06:17
Babbageoffby3, NO.   .xsession is run to establish the X session.  RTFM...06:17
dooglusoffby3: alternatively, put ". ~/.xsession" in ~/.gnomerc06:17
crimsunjohnfights: you need to compile the snd-ca0106 driver06:17
crimsun!tell johnfights about alsa-source06:17
dooglusthe latter is better.06:17
pluffsyI usually do shift-alt-8 or 9. but that produces nothing...06:17
pluffsyI've selected macintosh and swedish in the keyboard setup.06:17
pluffsyat doesn't work too... :/06:17
pluffsyall under gnomoe06:17
fivrehey is there a good standalone hotkey manager that can do more the default gnome app?06:17
pluffsycan I make a manual shortcut? like create those chars from the function keys or something? til I find a less hacky solution.06:17
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crimsunjohnfights: I just sent you instructions on how to make your sound card work under Ubuntu06:17
Babbagedooglus, no, that isn't such a good plan, because one of the things people might do in $HOME/.xsession is run Gnome...06:17
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dooglus.gnomerc is only run once, when gnome starts, but its settings will be inherited by all programs run in gnome (if they are inheritable)06:18
johnfightsk thank you i will do that06:18
MiksuFIwow this channel is awesome :) expect me to reappear with a standalone ubuntu system06:18
MiksuFIno more ****!X windows06:18
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BinaryDigitwoo hoo06:18
vengefulthat was my thought miksu06:18
crimsunjohnfights: when you get to the dpkg-reconfigure stage, it will ask you two questions. Answer "no" to plug 'n' play and "yes" to debugging symbols.06:18
vengefulyou pick up loads of useful stuff here06:18
chimpeedooglus: oh and look at that.. 604 in 6 < 0 > 4 represents the collapse of the 10 dimensional universe into the infinitemisily small 6 dimension universe and our expanding 4 dimensional universe, hence the big bang...06:18
offby3dooglus, that kind of concerns me...  I want to have a consistent set of {MAN,LD_LIBRARY,}PATH variables in my gnome apps and terminal apps -- how can I normalize this?06:18
MiksuFIdo you think that my experience with litestep is going to be useful06:19
crimsunjohnfights: and make sure you select the ca0106 driver.06:19
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cosimo321Hello all06:19
BinaryDigithi cosimo32106:19
crimsunjohnfights: if you get tripped up, I've helped dozens of people on the forum. Just search for ca0106.06:19
cosimo321can someon tell me how to open all permissions for files in ubuntu breezy?06:19
vengefulbreezy is nice and easy..id ont think youl have any problems06:19
MCJedihello, i'm having  a problem getting ncurses-devel to install, can someone give me a step by step on this?06:19
dooglusoffby3: just have ~/.gnomerc do a ". ~/.bash_profile", and set all environment variables in ~/.bash_profile06:19
vengefulunless you have some very exotic hardware06:19
crimsunMCJedi: sudo aptitude install libncurses5-dev06:20
johnfightsk06:20
offby3Hrm.06:20
offby3I'll try that.06:20
offby3Hopefully it'll work.06:20
chimpeeso Ubuntu 6.04 will be representative of Dr. Michio Kaku's 10 to 6 - 0 - 4 hyperspace superstring  theory06:20
MCJedisudo aptitude install libncurses5-dev ?06:20
fivreMiksuFI: litestep probably won't help you much06:20
dreamwavehi.  i've been trying different distrobutions and i'm thinking of replacing what i have with ubuntu.  is audacity available for ubuntu?  it didn't come up in synaptic.06:20
fivreother than being familiar with working incode and such06:20
crimsunMCJedi: nurses-devel is the RPM fashion of naming06:20
crimsunMCJedi: Debian uses libfoo-dev06:21
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BinaryDigityou need to set up your repositories dreamwave06:21
chimpeei guess that went over everyone's head06:21
vengefuli have it dreamwave06:21
offby3Well, I'll be back06:21
vengefulso yes06:21
offby3Wish me luck06:21
vengefulim on breezy tho...06:21
MiksuFIfivre yeah i just thought i would build my own "shell" and start doing some useful computer stuff instead of that adom curse on me06:21
cosimo321all files in /dev are gryed out when I go through file search anywa to make them available06:21
chimpeedooglus, to hear the sound of 604, go to www.philosomatika.com06:21
dreamwaveBinaryDigit, ah06:22
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dreamwavevengeful, cool06:22
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johnfightswhen does the final breezy come out or is that not know yet06:22
crimsunjohnfights: ~10 days06:22
naliothjohnfights: oct 1306:22
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dreamwavei'm using a live preview cd right now06:22
johnfightscool06:22
offby3Well, Babbage and droo...(?) ... Thanks.  Works fine, now.06:22
offby3Ciao06:23
MiksuFIgonna order that 5.10 final06:23
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shik45need help adding a repo06:23
MiksuFIany idea about when that would be wise without the delivery problems told off06:24
shik45i want the backports repos06:24
!lilo:*! Update to http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channelexpirations .... added a new technique for 60-day inactivity expiration which may be used occasionally by network staff06:24
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dooglusthanks chimpee06:24
MiksuFIall of you people thinking of moving to ubuntu full time yuu should definately visit dban.sourceforge.net and get real paranoid06:25
shik45help anyone?06:25
dreamwavemy other concern is my usb hard drive.  the live cd doesn't seem to be recognizing it.  the usb_storage module is loaded.  any ideas?06:25
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AdmiralSennokay, now I'm angry06:25
AdmiralSennsmeg simply refuses to install06:25
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LaptopZZhas anyone had a problem with the installer for 5.10 locking up at 'checking if image is initramfs'?06:25
yarddogMiksuFI, what has that got to do with ubuntu?06:26
naliothubotu: tell shik45 about backports06:26
naliothubotu: tell shik45 about repos06:26
MiksuFIyarddog that is, if running "free windows" before06:26
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shik45ubotu: HOLLA06:26
ubotushik45: What?06:26
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shik45i need help adding backports repos06:27
all4nhey, I've installed this QT-based application (scribus) in breezy, but find the interface to be of another style than the rest of Gnome. Any way to make scribus have the same style on dialogs and other windows as Gnome?06:27
shik45i want em all06:27
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yarddogMiksuFI, still, that dban has nothing to do with it, i dont understand your point here.06:27
shik45and i am on i39606:27
ootputhi guys, i was wondering if any of you succeeded in getting nvidia to play well with Ubuntu Breezy (preview?)06:27
shik45*38606:27
ootputand not the other way round :)06:27
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all4nootput, not me  :p06:27
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naliothubotu: tell shik45 about sources06:27
MiksuFIi ran a 8-round prng stream and 35-pass gutman method to be sure that any lab people wouldnt find out of such activity before06:27
ootputall4n, all hope is lost?06:27
ootputall4n, or haven't you bothered yet?06:28
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BinaryDigithow does ubuntu number their releases again? by month and date?06:28
yarddogdban has nothing to do with moving to ubuntu 'full time'06:28
naliothBinaryDigit: year + month06:29
shik45nalioth he helped thnx a lot06:29
naliothshik45: great06:29
all4nootput, I haven't really tried, but when I try to install nvidia-glx, and configure xorg.conf to 'nvidia', I get a message that my nvidia 'component??' is 7174, while the X is 7676..  and they need to be same or something06:29
wickedpuppyootput, its ok here why ?06:29
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MiksuFIyarddog the phrase get real paranoid is the answer. no traces on your harddrive means that when you move to ubunto you can feel safe if you ran it before. on physical locations that is06:29
ootputwickedpuppy, how did you go about getting it done?06:29
crimsunMiksuFI: nothing is beyond the recovery skills of those with the time and the money.06:29
ootputwickedpuppy, it's my first time with ubuntu, so i need an idea to get started06:30
wickedpuppyi just followed ubuntuguide.org06:30
crimsunMiksuFI: but this is -offtopic material06:30
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ootputall4n, :( Is this a common problem?06:30
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MiksuFIcrimsun matter discussed.06:30
all4nootput, I wouldnt know.. sorry06:30
pluffsyI'm trying to get a swedish keyboard to work on my powerbook. I found a guide for yellowdog, maybe you could help me convert it to ubuntu. Like there is nothing called kdb, are there anything like this: /usr/lib/kbd/keytables06:30
wickedpuppyall4n, how can QT based prog look same as gtk based programs ?06:30
MiksuFIso on topic, is it possible to run legacy dos software with ubuntu06:31
BinaryDigitthanks nalioth06:31
ootputgtk-engines-qt?06:31
crimsunwickedpuppy: fairly difficult atm. You can make GTK+ apps look similar to Qt ones, though.06:31
chimpeewhy is the Ubuntu Below Zero conference being held in Montreal, Quebec ? Is there a specific reason?06:31
wickedpuppypluffsy, System -> Preference -> keyboard06:31
TodFlanders_pluffsy those are refrences to KDE not gnome which is the ubuntu default06:31
ootputno wait, that's qt on gtk06:31
calcMiksuFI: yea06:31
MiksuFIcool06:31
all4nwickedpuppy, I dont know.. that's why I'm asking here  :p06:31
calcMiksuFI: there is a program called dosbox06:31
crimsunchimpee: targeting North American developers.06:31
pluffsywickedpuppy, there is no working keymap for my computer there. as far as it seems. alt-gr won't work.06:31
wickedpuppylol06:31
crimsunchimpee: each conference shifts geographical preference06:32
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pluffsyTodFlanders_, Darn...06:32
wickedpuppypluffsy, you already tried adding new layouts then ?06:32
TodFlanders_pluffsy you may need to use synaptic to install the layout06:32
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wickedpuppycrimsun, when is it coming to asia ? :P06:32
calcchimpee: to keep US people away due to the extreme cold06:32
crimsunwickedpuppy: I don't know; I don't make that call.06:32
pluffsywickedpuppy, adding new layouts? err? you mean like other than those in that list inside Keyboard?06:32
MadpilotPPCchimpee, the last one was in Australia; and I've heard that Mark Shuttleworth won't enter the US06:33
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chimpeecalc: it should be quite nice around october 30th .. and you can go door to door for candy :)06:33
calcchimpee: nice being only -20C?06:33
wickedpuppypluffsy, i thought the list inside it was comprehensive ... it has most or all of the languages06:33
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chimpeecalc: well no a bit colder.. but there should be no polar bears around at that time.. not until november usually06:34
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pluffsywickedpuppy, swedish is there, two versions. but alt-gr works in neither of those. as far as it seems...06:34
TodFlanders_wicked i cheed on mine and us is the only one06:34
MiksuFIwow a solar eclipse in finland today06:34
calcchimpee: high this week here is 33C :)06:35
chimpeecalc where is here06:35
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calcchimpee: texas06:35
outofpotlol omp06:35
outofpotOmptyDompty06:35
calcwas ~ 40-45C last week here06:35
ompoutofpot: :)06:35
all4nwickedpuppy, KDE is QT, while Gnome is GTK, right?   Would it then be possible to use a same-looking KDE theme to make QT progs look the same in Gnome?06:35
TodFlanders_heh another texas folk in here06:35
BinaryDigitomp ~06:36
BinaryDigit!06:36
ubotuBinaryDigit: I don't know, could you explain it?06:36
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naliothTodFlanders_: a texan? where?06:36
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wickedpuppyall4n, thatyou got to ask in #kde06:36
gp_aaronhow do you set which os to boot default06:36
all4nwickedpuppy, will do ..06:36
outofpotTodFlanders_, who's Texan?06:36
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chimpeecalc: come to montreal :)06:36
BinaryDigitubotu huh?06:36
ubotuI haven't a clue, BinaryDigit06:36
TodFlanders_heh calc your near me based on your hostname06:36
calcchimpee: when is it?06:36
pluffsyTodFlanders_, hmm any ideas what I should search for? I tried searching for the code name for my powerbook and simply powerbook. no hits.06:36
TodFlanders_im up aroound dallas06:36
chimpeeoct 30th06:37
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MadpilotPPC!tell BinaryDigit about ubotu06:37
pluffsyTodFlanders_, Search for in synpatic, of course.06:37
calcTodFlanders_: i'm in conroe, not that close ;)06:37
newbiehello everybbody06:37
BinaryDigitoh ahha06:37
calcchimpee: oh yea06:37
chimpeemontreal women + halloween =  spooky06:37
calcchimpee: hmm maybe so06:37
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newbiejust wanna ask something.. =) regarding on how to use this operating system.. =)06:37
calcchimpee: can we just sleep in the conference room? :)06:37
calci can't afford a weeks worth of hotel stay06:38
TodFlanders_pluffsy is it just a few keys not working right?06:38
newbiehow can I install a software thats not on add/remove programs of ubuntu?06:38
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newbiethe software is on *.deb extention06:38
chimpeecalc: i doubt it, especially since it's a holiday inn conf center06:38
pluffsyTodFlanders_, Only alt-gr it seems06:38
calcchimpee: hehe06:38
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chimpeeyeah where the hell will i sleep06:38
pluffsyTodFlanders_, Or alt-gr combinations, or whatever06:38
TodFlanders_i found a prog in synaptic called keymapper06:38
MadpilotPPCnewbie, have you checked Synaptic first?06:39
newbieanybody??06:39
TodFlanders_im on a pc so im unfamilar with powerbook keybds06:39
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chimpeeah well.. i gtg... gotta nuke fedora from this box and setup ubuntu 5.10 preview06:39
outofpotgood on ya :)06:39
BinaryDigitnewbie - synaptic06:39
chimpeewish me luck :D06:39
newbieI'm on console.. =)06:39
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BinaryDigitapt-get06:40
calcchimpee: good luck getting rid of the fedora evilness ;)06:40
naliothnewbie: ask a question06:40
MadpilotPPCnewbie, so apt-get or aptitude, then06:40
newbieahh let me see06:40
gp_aaronfedora is very evil06:40
pluffsyTodFlanders_, I'm trying keymapper now. if it doesn't work. is it difficult to add a key to the current layout?06:40
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TodFlanders_not sure never had to do it06:41
chemisusis there a way to install java using synaptics with hoary?06:41
MadpilotPPC!tell chemisus about java06:41
TodFlanders_if worse comes to worse just maybe make a new keyboard shortcut06:41
naliothMadpilotPPC: it's "javadeb"06:42
TodFlanders_thats not hard as long as the desired action is listed06:42
stevewabc_laptopfedora is evil well I dont no that we can go that far but it is linux and thats a +06:42
naliothMadpilotPPC: sun java is no longer in the repos06:42
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MadpilotPPCnalioth, right, forgot that06:42
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MadpilotPPC!+javadeb06:42
ubotu[javadeb]  for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java06:42
TodFlanders_pluffsy what does alt+gl do?06:42
AdmiralSenngah06:43
AdmiralSennfat partition exists, gparted sees it, fdisk -l lists it, mount says it doesn't exist06:43
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pluffsyTodFlanders_, not sure. maybe as ctrl? in firefox both alt-a and ctrl-a selects all anyway.06:44
MiksuFIfinally, i have managed to move the table and stuff so that  the wlan actually runs without breaking up through 2 levels of concrete wall. and in xp that is, vautsi06:44
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all4nwickedpuppy, haha.., it is possible to make qt-apps look more gnomish.. its even a thread on ubuntuforums explaining howto do it  :)06:45
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wickedpuppylol06:45
MiksuFIi have a directional antenna and no antenna in the router06:45
AdmiralSennman, now I'm pissed at ubuntu for only the second time since I installed it06:46
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AdmiralSennstupid fat partition06:46
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yarddogim sure ubuntu feels your pain06:46
TodFlanders_hmm i never realized both did that, sorry i couldnt be more help seen about changing keymaps but never had to06:46
MiksuFIwhat use is a fat partition of06:46
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AdmiralSennwell06:46
tritiumAdmiralSenn, really, it's just a weight-challenged partition ;)06:46
TodFlanders_miksufi its nice to have a fat32 if you dual boot linux and windows06:47
AdmiralSennlinux doesn't natively write to ntfs, and the other ways don't seem reliable06:47
AdmiralSennso I made a fat partition for shared data like my blender files06:47
pluffsyTodFlanders_, hmm can I somehow create a keyboard shortcut for alt-gr or will I have to do one for each alt-gr combination?06:47
MiksuFIyeah, but doesnt ubuntu read ntfs which i t hought had enhanced speed in xp06:47
wickedpuppyAdmiralSenn, you have mounted it ... right ?06:47
crimsunAdmiralSenn: you could use ext2fsd06:47
AdmiralSennthat's what I'm trying to do!06:47
AdmiralSennmount says it doesn't exist06:47
AdmiralSennbut gparted and fdisk show it quite plainly06:48
gpdso I installed kubuntu and now all my gnome fonts and themes are messed up... :(06:48
AdmiralSennI'm not trying to hack windows into reading a linux partition either06:48
crimsunAdmiralSenn: ext2fsd's installation is extremely braindead.06:48
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crimsunyou type one command after you click the installer.06:48
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wickedpuppyok but have you mounted it ? as in mount /dev/<fat> -t fat306:48
AdmiralSennthe point is, I have 30 gigs of information I'm not deleting it06:48
wickedpuppyok but have you mounted it ? as in mount /dev/<fat> -t fat3 /mnt/fat06:48
AdmiralSennwickedpuppy, it refuses to mount!06:48
gpdthe fonts in gnome now appear larger and the toolkit seems to be like kde...06:48
wickedpuppysomething like that06:48
wickedpuppyany error message ?06:49
AdmiralSennthat's my problem!06:49
AdmiralSennYes!06:49
crimsunAdmiralSenn: well, what syntax are you using?06:49
AdmiralSennI just said that06:49
gpdbut i cannot find how to switch it back... since the gnome theme manager doesn't change anything06:49
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TodFlanders_pluffsy im not exactly sure what you mean but have you scaned the layout option in the keyboard control panel06:49
TodFlanders_tab right next to layout06:49
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AdmiralSenn....06:50
AdmiralSenn sudo mount -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000 /dev/hda5 /media/windows06:50
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AdmiralSennputting it in /etc/fstab doesn't work either06:50
cevizogluwhat's the best free music/techno music creator out there?06:50
wickedpuppyyou do have /dev/hda5 right ?06:51
AdmiralSennyes...06:51
crimsunsudo fdisk -l /dev/hda06:51
AdmiralSennit's inside /dev/hda3, which is an extended partition, and which also does not work using the same commands06:51
crimsunpaste onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:51
AdmiralSenn....06:51
AdmiralSennI just did that!06:51
AdmiralSennAdmiralSenn fat partition exists, gparted sees it, fdisk -l lists it, mount says it doesn't exist06:51
AdmiralSenn06:51
crimsunyou did not show us the output.06:52
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AdmiralSenn/dev/hda3           10948       14589    29254365    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)06:52
AdmiralSenn/dev/hda5           10948       14589    29254333+   b  W95 FAT3206:52
AdmiralSennthose are the relevant lines06:52
AdmiralSenn06:52
AdmiralSenngah06:52
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AdmiralSennkeep pasting spaces06:52
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AdmiralSennoh, here we go - partition table entries are not in disk order06:53
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crimsunmount says /dev/hda5 doesn't exist? or /media/windows doesn't exist?06:53
AdmiralSennhda506:53
AdmiralSennalso hda306:53
abarbacciaheyy all - anybody here use f-spot to upload photos to an online webpage?06:53
AdmiralSennI made the directory to mount to a while ago06:53
crimsunwell you can't mount the logical extended partition06:53
AdmiralSennbut I should be able to mount hda506:53
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crimsunyes, assuming /media/windows exists06:54
AdmiralSennit's there06:54
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crimsunwhat did you use to create the partition?06:54
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AdmiralSennI don't remember, it was ages ago06:54
AmazonTrying to configure wireless on my dell inspiron.  It didn't work in the default install.  Any ideas what I can?06:54
AdmiralSennprobably partition magic06:54
AdmiralSennbut like I said, it mounted fine before06:55
TodFlanders_amazon im messing with wireless to on a compaq, what chipset does you card have? you need to know that first06:55
AmazonCan I query this from my system?06:56
crimsunAdmiralSenn: does dmesg say anything about the underlying block device?06:56
AdmiralSennI have no idea06:56
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crimsunthat's where I'd look next06:56
Amazonok, I guess I'll have to reboot to windows06:56
AdmiralSenna lot of messages saying cdrom open failed06:56
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AdmiralSennnot sure what that's about06:56
TodFlanders_yeah their is a way to06:57
TodFlanders_i cant remember how though :(06:57
crimsunAdmiralSenn: paste dmesg|grep hd output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:57
poningru!wifi06:57
ubotuwifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto06:57
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pluffsydamn it. the keyboard control panel crashes and all apps gets a weird button theme. is level three what you use to make alt-gr combinations?06:57
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newbieback06:57
newbie=)06:57
AdmiralSennI'm debating unmounting my swap partition and moving it with Gparted06:58
AdmiralSennwhat do you guys think?06:58
MiksuFIsweet my set of 5 pc cds has been approved =) i truly wish that someday the rule of the windows will end and all those greedy software companies will come to their doomsday. whats the point of paying for software if there is allready a thousand people willing to do it for free06:58
La_PaRCaAdmiralSenn, who needs swap?06:58
newbieuhum,06:58
newbienewbie Reading package lists... Done...06:58
newbienewbie Building dependency tree... Done06:58
newbienewbie Couldn't find package crossover-pro_4.1-2_i386.deb06:58
newbienewbie ??/06:58
AdmiralSennI don't know!06:58
newbienewbie any clue?06:58
newbienewbie =)06:58
vengefulworking then, miksu?06:58
fanopanic /topi06:58
AdmiralSennnewbie, looks like you're missing the package06:58
AdmiralSennsince I have no idea what you're doing, I can't help any more than that06:59
newbieits on the folder when I run apt-get06:59
MiksuFIvengeful, i am sort of an anarchist.-transcendelist .. in my dreams atleast06:59
MiksuFIyou know the socialist type of06:59
AdmiralSennmaybe the package has been removed06:59
AdmiralSennand I still don't know what you're trying to do06:59
La_PaRCanewbie, you need to use dpkg for that, apt-get only gets stuff from the repositories07:00
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AdmiralSennokay guys, hda3, the logical partition, is flagged with 'lba'07:00
AdmiralSenndon't know what that means07:00
newbieahh I'll try La_parca07:00
La_PaRCanewbie, if you already have a .deb just do a sudo dpkg -i package.deb07:00
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breakthestateok my computer is hanging up during "configuring network interfaces" boot after i tried to use madwifi07:00
[klined] is there a way to install windows on a computer that has a linux partition without destroying the bootloader?07:01
vengefullogical block addressing heh07:01
AdmiralSennwell07:01
AdmiralSennI give up for tonight07:01
AdmiralSennit's 1 am07:01
La_PaRCabreakthestate, it usually happens if the wireless cant find an AP, so it just waits until it timesout07:01
AdmiralSennand I need to use windows to wake me up if I can't get this working in the next few minutes07:01
breakthestatei'm getting a error insterting ath_rate_onoe error : invalid module format07:01
MiksuFIanyway, i think that there might be something better to work for than programming for capitalist companies and their victims. how about programming for  the world, and that means _the ones tryl in need_07:01
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La_PaRCabreakthestate, oh, um... well... yeah. No idea then.07:02
breakthestateLa_PaRCa07:02
breakthestate: it's starting now07:02
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breakthestatei don't have an internet connection on this computer i'm trying07:02
breakthestatebut i can put the cd in my sources list, breezy07:02
TodFlanders_ok one quick question before i go to bed. If i get a message saying wpa may not be supported by my card would you blame thedrivers or wpasupplicant07:04
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TodFlanders_the card works fine if i dont use wpa in my router07:04
MiksuFIhey this is fun, how about a "classic ubuntu thong" or a giant sized "ubuntu sleepless mug" =)07:05
dreamwavewell, i'm super impressed with ubuntu.  just listened to some mp3s using the live cd.  but i still need to know how to get my usb hard drive to be recognized.  can someone help me with this?07:05
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wickedpuppydreamwave, have you plugged it in??07:06
vengefulhehe well does your card support wpa? i dont imagine theres many that do these days?07:06
vengefulalso remember there isnt any wpa on an out of the box install of ubuntu07:06
TodFlanders_it supports wpa in windows07:06
vengefulyou have to play abit07:06
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tritiumMiksuFI, that's probably more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic07:06
dreamwavewickedpuppy, yes.07:07
dreamwave:)07:07
TodFlanders_actually this is on suse on my laptop, i couldnt get it on my ubuntu desktop either though07:07
TodFlanders_not sure if the drivers were responsible for wpa or not07:07
wickedpuppydreamwave, nothing comes out ?? no windows or anything ?07:07
vengefulyou can mess around and get it working07:07
vengefulbut for the difference between wep and wpa..i dont(personally) think its worth it07:07
newbiela_parca..07:07
newbiecan I pm you??07:07
breakthestateok, so how to get madwifi drivers with apt-get after I've put the cd in my sources.list, meaning, anyone know which package i should install?07:08
vengefulunless you live around a dozen hackers?07:08
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La_PaRCanewbie, yeah?07:08
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TodFlanders_heh vengeful i dont think i do :)07:08
dreamwavewickedpuppy, nothing at all.  i did try monitoring it with the device manager and for a moment, it showed a 3.5" smart drive.  but then it was gone.07:08
La_PaRCanewbie, sure07:08
vengefulhow many wireless networks in your area07:08
wickedpuppydreamwave, go to terminal .... check ya /media07:08
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dreamwavewickedpuppy, empty07:08
TodFlanders_i can get 3-4 depending on my positioning07:08
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wickedpuppydreamwave, dmesg | tail07:08
vengefulwouldnt worry about it too much07:08
TodFlanders_none strong enough to connect reliably though07:08
vengefuljust use wep for now07:09
vengefuluntil something more official happens heh07:09
wickedpuppypaste it in pastebin if its longer than 2 ... i am sure it is ... so paste it in pastebin pls :P07:09
vengefulyou have 128 bit wep?07:09
TodFlanders_yeah may have to , mayplay around alittle more with driver cominations and whatnot though for fun :-), then i will document it :-)07:09
MiksuFIso dont you think that aes iisn't worth it07:10
TodFlanders_right now im unsecured07:10
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vengefulsure it id miksu07:10
vengefuli just dont have it on my router07:10
MiksuFIok.07:10
TodFlanders_disabled enryption to get the card working07:10
vengefulsure just pop wep on tod07:10
vengefulworks fine for ubuntu07:10
vengefulmake sure its 128 bit tho07:11
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dreamwavewickedpuppy, http://pastebin.com/38131907:11
TodFlanders_yeah guess i will07:11
TodFlanders_later all07:11
wickedpuppyseems like you having error07:11
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MiksuFIyou could try to physically reset the router and then try it again. you know, you can systematically try all the combinations if you use that without getting trapped by the encryption07:12
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dingn07:12
dreamwavewickedpuppy, indeed.07:12
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wickedpuppydreamwave, can you do this ? lsmod | grep ehci07:12
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DrSpinFluxbox is nice!!!07:12
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DrSpinwhy don't I have any icons when using rox or nautilus?07:13
DrSpin... the default "page" icon is waht  shows for everything07:13
dreamwavewickedpuppy, http://pastebin.com/381321  output is at the bottom.07:14
wickedpuppyyou got ehci07:14
wickedpuppyfunny07:14
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wickedpuppyi thought you are missing it or something07:15
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esacis there anyway that i can delay the network starting up until after gdm has loaded ?07:15
wickedpuppywell i am out of my wits ... my first time seeing this error on live cd07:15
dallas_finaly got my ATI drivers installed... only took 2 days :)07:15
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wickedpuppyesac, don't connect the wire till gnome is up ?07:16
esacthats great except my laptop is wireless :)07:16
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yarddogdallas, took me 10 min07:18
dallas_yeah but I suck at linux07:18
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dreamwavewickedpuppy, okay.  this is weird.  here's what i did.  unplugged the usb mouse and stuck it in a different port.  then, after waiting a minute, plugged in the usb power for the drive and then the usb plug that caries the data.  and it worked!07:19
dreamwavewickedpuppy, i try to recreate the error sometime, though07:19
peersoftwish people had suggestions about my 56k modem and why I cant get it working and why it says "unable to open modem07:20
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peersoftbrb.07:20
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dindaHOI07:21
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dreamwavewickedpuppy, my last question, and then it's download time... hda2 is my windows, ntfs partition.  is there any simple way to get this mounted automagically or do i have to put my own entry into /etc/fstab (also simple but i was hoping for a gui).07:21
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attyhi.... how cah i upgrade my openoffice from 1.1.3 to 2.007:22
tritiumatty, install the openoffice.org2 packages07:22
attyhow trinium?07:22
attyshould i use apt-get install openoffice2 ?07:22
tritiumThey're actually betas of version 2.0, by the way07:22
tritiumyes, or synaptic, atty07:23
attyi did try synaptic but it shown nothing.07:23
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vengefuldreamwwave07:23
attyi did try to update my ubuntu manager but always failed07:23
tritiumwhat's the error, atty ?07:24
vengefulwhat dir do you want it mounted to07:24
wickedpuppydreamwave, you need to put it into fstab07:24
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wickedpuppywith auto option07:24
ubuntuanyone know if the is a way to save setings from a live session to a USB disc07:24
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attyhold on07:24
vengefulmount /dev/hda2 /mnt/WinXP07:25
vengefulfor example07:25
attyi try to update again and paste it here07:25
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Myrttino07:25
Myrttidon't paste07:25
Myrtti!pastebin07:25
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:25
peersofthow do I set myself as root? ;| to be able to write, create directories and files in kubuntu?07:25
vengefulyou use sudo07:25
Myrtti!root07:25
ubotuI heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:25
dreamwavewickedpuppy, okay.  thanks for all your help.07:26
bob2peersoft: sudo mkdir whatever07:26
bob2etc07:26
wickedpuppyhey i did almost nothing ... you did everything :P07:26
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dreamwavevengeful, thanks as well.07:26
calvindoes anyone know about gimp?07:26
wickedpuppycalvin, #gimp07:26
vengefulnp07:26
bob2calvin: it's way simpler if you just ask your question07:26
calvinyeah, I was wondering if you knew how to get the histogram to work07:26
peersoftcould htis possibly be why my modem is saying "unable to open modeM" cause /dev/modem/ isnt a directory like i should be/07:27
tritiumcalvin, how does it not work/07:27
tritium?07:27
ubuntuhey dose anyone know if the is a way to save setings from a live session to a USB disc07:27
calvinwhen I edit the levels it does not change the picture07:28
tritiumcalvin, the histogram is just a dialog07:28
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calvinisn't that the equivalent to photoshops "levels"?07:29
attyit say failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backport .........07:29
attyW: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/libgcc1_4.0.0-7ubuntu6~5.04ubp1_i386.deb07:29
atty  404 Not Found07:29
tritiumatty, don't paste07:29
attyorry tritium07:29
MadpilotPPC!+backports07:29
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports07:29
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attyi'm a new user07:29
attyhow to add?07:30
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tritiumcalvin, I don't use photoshop, but the histogram dialog is only informative.  You're probably looking for Tools->Color Tools->Levels07:30
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dabaRatty: notice the More infot @ part07:31
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MadpilotPPC!tell atty about repos07:31
calvinThats it, thanks tritium07:31
ootputhi guys, I was wondering where apt-get usually puts it's downloaded packages?07:31
tritium/var/cache/apt/archives07:32
attyok07:32
ootputThe reason I'm asking is that I had to manually fetch *.exe corefonts from a different site as belnet.dl.sourceforge.net/<pathtofonts> didn't resolve07:32
ootputtritium, do you happen to have arial32.exe (etc.) on your system?07:33
tritiumootput, no07:33
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dabaRootput: did you try the msttcorefonts package?07:35
CaiN_SAcan any1 tell me if azereus is in multiverse ?07:35
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pluffsygaaaah. I'll soon start to cry. it shouldn't be this much work to get alt-gr to work.07:35
tristanmikeCaiN_SA, no, it's in the "extras"07:35
MCJedisudo aptitude install libncurses5-dev failed07:36
dabaRpluffsy: they are very lazy. without a whip, you will get nowhere. Or union.07:36
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pluffsywhat is 3d level in keyboard layout options?07:37
MCJedii'm having  a problem getting ncurses-devel to install, can someone give me a step by step on this?07:37
pluffsythe manual doesn't give any info that I can find07:37
MCJedicouldnt find packages07:37
pluffsydabaR, who is lazy?07:38
tritium!info libncurses5-dev07:38
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ubotulibncurses5-dev: (Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 5.4-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 1009 kB, Installed size: 5156 kB07:38
tritiumit's in the main repo, as you can see, MCJedi07:38
dabaRpluffsy: the "alt-gr"s07:38
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dabaRthey dont like working, in other words.07:38
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dabaRanyhow.07:38
MCJediCouldn't find any package whose name or description matched "libncurses5-dev"07:38
tritiumMCJedi, have you updated at all?  (i.e. sudo apt-get update, or the equivalent in synaptic) ?07:39
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MCJediwill try that brb07:39
deibhi all, I'm a new ubuntu user, just installed it a couple hours ago on my powerbook, looks great so far I must say :)07:39
tritiumcongrats, deib07:39
pluffsydabaR: :( I can't get anything done without curly braces.07:39
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dabaRMCJedi: add main. or, alternatively, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl to paste the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal07:39
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dabaRpluffsy: what kybrd?07:40
ootputcan anyone perform a 'locate arial32.exe' on their system?07:40
ootputI'd like to know where apt-get places it07:40
deibthank you07:40
pluffsydabaR: Powerbook G3 Lombard keyboard.07:40
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ootputIt doesn't seem to search for *.exe's in /var/cache/apt/archives07:40
jrris there a *proper* way for me to roll my own kernel?07:40
pluffsydabaR: swedish too :p07:40
dabaRnalioths_dog: ping07:40
jrrootput: i just joined, but why are you looking for a *.exe?07:40
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tritiumjrr, install kernel-package, and use make-kpkg (after reading a bit)07:41
ootputms fonts07:41
deibbtw, i have the same keyboard issue :/07:41
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dooglusootput: use "apt-file search" to find out where apt-get places things07:41
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jrrtritium: i've used make-kpkg w/ debian before, just thought there could be a difference07:41
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tritiumjrr, cool, you're well on your way, then07:41
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ootputjrr, msfonts package. The site used during apt-get doesn't seem to resolve, so I had to manually wget the font packages myself. Placing them in /var/cache/apt/archives doesn't seem to impress apt-get07:41
jrrah gotcha07:41
jrrmsfonts? it's not msttcorefonts?07:42
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ootputjrr, that's the one07:42
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ootputjrr, I was trying to limit my typing07:42
jrrgotcha07:42
jrrspeaking of the package.. is it provided in ubuntu? i don't see it.07:42
deibany mac user out there has any idea how to access "alt" keys, considering that the Alt gr key does not exist in mac keyboards? :s07:43
ootputdooglus, apt-file is available in which tool-set?07:43
tritiumjrr, it's in multiverse07:43
dooglusootput: it's in the apt-file package07:43
dabaRdeib: is there a fn key?07:43
jrrgotta add that to my sources.list?07:43
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ootputdooglus, ah right, silly me. I was under the impression that it was included in a vanilla install07:43
deibdabar: yes, there is a fn key. its not working as alt gr either07:44
doogluschris@chrislap:~$ apt-file search bin/apt-file07:44
dooglusapt-file: usr/bin/apt-file07:44
tritiumjrr, if you don't have it, yes07:44
jrrthis sudo bash stuff takes some getting used to07:44
MCJedinow it says07:45
MCJediReading package lists... Done07:45
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dabaRdeib: I would like to point out that I do not have a altgr on my PC.07:45
pluffsydeib: my question exactly :(07:45
ootputjrr, yeah, you're telling me07:45
jrrthis apt frontend is nice and cushy. i could see somebody that doesn't already know linux using it!07:46
deibdabar: i see, aynthing that gets you to third characters in keys, or there just aren't any?07:46
MCJedishould say yes to removing that package it asks for?07:46
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MCJediNeed to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 996kB will be freed.07:47
MCJedi[12:35am]  <Fudge> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]  n07:47
pluffsydabaR: hmm when I press fn-alt I can make some alt-gr combinations like at but not curly braces which are the ones I reeeeally need07:47
ootputany ideas where msttfont's *.exe files are located?07:47
tritiumhi Draucon07:47
deibpluffsy: ah there :) {}07:48
ootputfor example, arial32.exe's location?07:48
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bjvarg07:48
bjvcant compile scorched3d, :((07:48
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bjvchecking for SDL_net lib... yes07:49
bjvchecking for beer in -lfridge... no07:49
bjvWarning: No beer found in fridge!07:49
bjvWe highly suggest that you rectify this situation immediately.07:49
bjvchecking for OpenGL support... yes07:49
bjvchecking for OpenAL... checking for openal-config... no07:49
bjv*** The openal-config script installed by OpenAL could not be found07:49
tritiumbjv, no pasting07:49
tristanmike!tell bjv about pastebin07:49
Burgundaviabjv, why not just install the version out of the repos?07:49
bjv:\07:49
MCJedidabar http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/272707:50
liboo2chello, is it possible to add other applications to the GNOME Panels as the standart like clock or the fish?07:50
bjvscorched3d online play requires matching versions of the game client07:50
bjvthe version in the repos is quite old,07:50
pluffsydeib: what do you type? (guess it will not help me and my swedish pb lombard anyway)07:50
Burgundavialibervisco, just right click and choose add to panel07:50
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liboo2cI know Burgundavia, but I like to add a binary clock to this list07:51
bjvwait. i _do_ have a pastebin link.07:51
bjvhttp://pastebin.ca/2194507:51
bjvonly thing i found from google, but that is exactly my problem.07:52
Burgundaviabjv, not yet found its way into debian yet07:52
Burgundaviabjv, 0.39 that is07:52
bjvwell i dont really need that, i just need openal-config07:52
deibpluffsy: swedish!! thats a tough one :S I use a latin american configuration, and just have to do Fn+Alt+07:53
MadpilotPPChttp://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Good-evening%2C-Mr.-Gates-800x600.jpg07:53
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calvinis there anyway to change which is the default player of different files types?07:57
naliothcalvin: system > prefs > preferred apps07:57
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calvinthanks07:58
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calvinnalioth: that only is for browser and mail, I need it for my WMA files to be played in xine and not totem07:59
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Penguincalvin click on a wma file, then choose properties, then open with08:00
dabaRMCJedi: what is that? is taht what I asked for?08:00
calvinbut do I have to do that everytime I open the file?08:00
ootputany ideas where msttfont's *.exe files are located?08:01
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Penguinno, you can choose there what the prefered app is08:01
MCJedithis is what you had said: [12:39am]  <dabaR> MCJedi: add main. or, alternatively, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl to paste the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal08:01
whyameyeis there a way to keep programs from stealing focus in Gnome?08:01
MCJedias i'm not able to do any root work on their pc myself, i'm kind of at the mercy of the guy i'm trying to help08:01
bjvspeaking of where a package keeps it's files.. is there an command to list the files contained in a .deb?08:01
MCJedii've just shown you what i can08:02
HANIS_IMOETSURABAYA08:02
Penguinhttp://users.skynet.be/pengu/calvin.png08:02
Penguindo you see what I mean08:02
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bjvlike listing the contents of a tar, but with a deb?08:02
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Penguinyou can mark the app08:02
bjvim not seeing any switches to do this with apt-cache.08:02
deibpluffy: what current keyboard layout do you have?08:02
HANIS_IMOETBLH KENALAN GAK?08:02
tritiumbjv, dpkg -L <packagename>08:02
tritiumHANIS_IMOET, english here please08:03
bam_morning08:03
deFrysk!in08:03
ubotudeFrysk: I don't know, could you explain it?08:03
bam_anyone using xfce?08:03
deFrysk!indonesia08:03
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, deFrysk08:03
deibpluffsy: what current keyboard layout do you have? <sorry about the spam>08:03
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calvinpenguin: Sprechen Sie Deutsch?08:04
Penguinno, its dutch :)08:04
Penguinbut you can see what I mean right?08:05
calvinoh08:05
calvinok08:05
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naliothdutch? deutch?08:05
dabaRMCJedi: that is not what I told you. that is the output of trying to install the program. I wanted to see the sources.list.08:05
dabaRadd main as your repo on tha tcomputer.08:05
calvinsorry, I took german for 6 years, got a concussion and lost most of it and it looked like german words08:05
Penguindutch = belgium, the netherlands deutch = german08:05
calvinyeah, I see it08:05
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calvinthaanks08:05
MCJedihow do i do that? add the main as repo08:06
Penguinnp08:06
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wickedpuppydutch = belgium ?08:06
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deFryskhe means The Netherlands  Belgium08:06
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deFryskhe feversed it08:06
deFryskreversed08:06
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wickedpuppyi am sorry .. people in belgium are also called dutch ?08:07
wickedpuppyi never know that08:07
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Penguinno the yspeak dutch :-)08:07
wickedpuppyoh08:07
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wickedpuppylol08:07
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Penguinand tehre is a part that is speaking french08:07
deFryskBelgium speaks dutch and French08:07
bjv# ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ | grep -i OpenAL08:07
bjvlibopenal-dev_0.2004090900-1.1_i386.deb08:07
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bjvwhat is the name of the libopenal0 package file?08:08
calvinkinda like canada speaking french and english?08:08
deFrysk</ot>08:08
HANIS_IMOEThai08:08
deibpluffsy_: what keyboard layout are you using? sweden?08:08
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Penguinno french like france lol :p on topic now :-)08:08
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HANIS_IMOET<<surabaya>08:09
calvinCan I stream WMV files in a linux web browser?08:09
Penguinyou mean see streams that are wmv?08:10
bjvdunno, i can play wmv files from my harddisk. i prefer not to stream in a browser08:10
bjvi assume you could stream if you want to.08:10
calvinPenguin: yes08:10
Penguinproperbly no sound then, dunno, I get always no sound of wmv files in browser08:11
calvinHow do you make it red to the person you are sending the MSG to, clicking on the name or typing it?08:11
DShepherddoes breezy support transparency?08:11
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MadpilotPPCcalvin, start the line with someone's nick - that'll highlight it for them08:12
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Penguintyping it calvin, type "cal" and use the tab, it will autocomplete then08:12
calvinthats what I thought08:12
calvinThanks08:12
deFryskcalvin, this room has the colours turned off so only black and grey08:12
bjvthe libopenal0 package, what .deb file does it reside in? grepping the contents of my apt cache for "openal" only turns up the file from package libopenal-dev08:13
Penguinhe means the higlighting I think deFrysk :-)08:13
calvindeFrysk, but I mean it soe they show up like this, in red08:13
deFryskoic08:13
Penguincalls highlighting calvin :)08:13
deFryskhow exiting ;p08:13
DShepherddoes breezy support transparency?08:13
pluffsy_deib> swedish no dead keys08:14
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deFryskDShepherd, like transparency from xorg ?08:14
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calvinthanks everybody, I got 3 hours sleep last night and have to get up in 6 hours so I better sleep now08:15
WebLOCHHey all08:15
calvinleaving08:15
WebLOCHbye08:15
FR500hello08:15
WebLOCHI've got some quick questions about LMSensors08:16
bjvshoot.08:16
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WebLOCHWell I wante dto check my CPU temp as ive overclocked it, but after installing the CPU info gdesklets they all complained at a lack of sensors08:16
WebLOCHso I installed lm-sensors, from the repos08:16
WebLOCHbut they still state the same thing08:16
WebLOCHso im a bit lost08:17
Penguindid you follow the guide about using lmsensors?08:17
MadpilotPPCWebLOCH, you need to do some configuring of lm-sensors before it'll run. There's a tutorial at the Ubuntu Forums08:17
Penguinyou have to configure it08:17
bjvyeah. it has been a while, but i believe i had to run a config/etc08:17
WebLOCHAhh excellent08:17
deibpluffsy_: ALT+FN+zero doesnt do it?08:17
WebLOCHMadpilotPPC, I was wondering, but their homepage is not particularly helpful08:17
Penguinhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=lmsensors WebLOCH08:18
MadpilotPPCWebLOCH, try "man lm-sensors" for starters08:18
Penguinperfect guide, worked well for me08:18
DShepherddeFrysk: I not sure if it is like transparency in X.org08:18
WebLOCHMadpilotPPC, I did it says theres no manual08:18
pluffsy_deib> blackslash here :(08:19
DShepherddeFrysk: so breezy supports transparency then?08:19
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DoonzHey guys any idea why i cant open up the file browser08:19
Penguincheck my URL, WebLOCH :)08:19
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Doonzit just says starting explorer and then it quits08:19
Penguinbut follow it carefully08:19
WebLOCHPenguin I am doin08:19
pluffsy_it\s 8.19 here. need sleep. gnite.08:19
Penguinok :)08:19
WebLOCHPenguin, it lacks detail08:19
WebLOCHbut looks okay08:19
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bjvok, it appears i did not actually have libopenal0 installed08:20
bjvit should have been, when i had apt-got Blender, the 3d modeler..08:20
deibpluffsy_: have you tried with fn+shift on the keys?08:20
BlurredWelong time linux user (gentoo, LFS, redhat), first time ubuntu/debian user....breezy stable enough to use as a desktop system?08:20
whyameyeDoonz, are you trying to run Nautilus? Are you running from the command line?08:20
BurgundaviaBlurredWe, yes08:20
WebLOCHPenguin, where is the lm-sensor source ?08:21
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WebLOCHPenguin, the guide doesn't state where, it just says the location08:21
BlurredWeok, any gotchas anywhere that I should know about?  Pretty standard hardware...08:21
Penguinyou just have to copy the text below and paste in in a text-editor WebLOCH08:21
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Penguinand then name it makedev.sh08:21
elc2hi guys08:21
deibpluffsy_: nevermind that08:22
MadpilotPPCWebLOCH, you shouldn't need the source code to get lm-sensors running - it's been a while since I set it up, but I didn't do any source-code stuff08:22
elc2can anybody teach me how to install openoffice2.0 in ubuntu 5.04 (hoary)?08:22
WebLOCHPenguin.. the guide is a little misleading then .. Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source08:22
Penguinyeah its misleading08:22
Penguinbut it worked perfect here08:22
WebLOCHYeah im still trying it08:23
WebLOCHIm just a little retarded and a little anal, bad combination really08:23
Penguinhehe08:23
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ubuntukinghello all08:23
elc2hi guys! can anyone teach me how to install openoffice 2.0 in ubuntu hoary08:24
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WebLOCHPenguin, MadpilotPPC ... According to sensors-detect, I don't have any sensors installed in my system :P08:24
wickedpuppylol08:24
WebLOCHWell it says... "No chips were detected"08:25
MadpilotPPCWebLOCH, which motherboard do you have?08:25
WebLOCHASUS P5WD2 Premium08:25
WebLOCHwith an Intel Pentium D 83008:26
keikozmmh i have the same pbl with the Asus P5GDC08:26
keikozno way to find the sensors ...08:26
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MadpilotPPCmy Asus board had it's sensors detected just fine - it's one of the high-end K7 boards, can't remember the exact #...08:27
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elc2hi guys08:27
elc2i need help08:27
bjvwith open office?08:27
elc2yes08:28
bjvi know. i do not use open office though.08:28
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bjvis 2.0 a very high version?08:28
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elc2can you teach me please08:28
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bjvhow to compile and install it?08:28
elc2yes08:28
wickedpuppywhy you need to compile and install ??? i am sure there are .deb for oo08:29
bjvi imagine it involves a wget, a config, a make, and a make install.08:29
bjvbut im sure that there is a faq provided somewhere for you.08:29
Lord_Maynothwhen do you guys think linux in general will get a device manager like windows where you can acutally isntall new drivers08:29
elc2can you direct me to it?08:29
Lord_Maynoth?08:29
MadpilotPPCOpen Office 2 is default in Breezy, and in Hoary's repositories, guys08:29
CaiN_SAduh08:29
bjvMadpilotPPC: i already told him that i didnt know if 2.0 was a very high/unstable version.08:29
wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, i don't get your question08:29
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PenguinWebLOCH, proberbly a mobo that the kernel doesnt see the sensors yet, I just googeled08:30
elc2how can i get my hoary to breezy?08:30
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elc2upgrade it?08:30
wickedpuppyyou can install drivers in linux since ... i don't know ... long time ago08:30
Lord_Maynothwhen will there be a device manager with an option to install new drivers08:30
bjvhe said "and in hoary"08:30
WebLOCHPenguin, any suggestions?08:30
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wickedpuppyoption to install new drivers ? you install new drivers whenever you want ?08:30
Lord_Maynothyeah but you have to go through all kinds of crap to install a new driver08:30
Penguindo you use hoary or breezy?08:30
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Lord_Maynoththere is no easy way08:31
Lord_Maynothlike in windows device manager08:31
frozensoulhey =)08:31
wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, which driver ?08:31
elc2i use hoary? but can i upgrade it to breezy08:31
Lord_Maynothany driver08:31
frozensoulhow can i install .deb file :>08:31
wickedpuppynvidia driver is painless08:31
Penguindo you use hoary or breezy WebLOCH ?08:31
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wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, why not ask the companies to provide source files for their drivers ?? we be happy to make .deb or .rpm for you08:32
Penguinelse try with breezy, ist having a new kernel, but I dont know if that is gonna solve it08:32
Lord_Maynothyeah thats great and all08:32
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WebLOCHPenguin... Hoary08:32
Lord_Maynothbut wouldn't it be aswesome if there was a device manager... where you had an option to install new drivers08:32
Lord_Maynothlike windows08:32
frozensoulanyone to help me ? :)08:32
Lord_Maynothexcept not08:32
Lord_Maynothhehe08:32
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, that is not how new drivers are installed08:33
Penguinmaybe its gonna work in breezy then WebLOCH08:33
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, what piece of hardware doesn't work?08:33
frozensoulhow can i install .deb file :> :)08:33
Lord_Maynothno... I am just saying08:33
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Penguinbrb08:33
Lord_Maynothit would be a lot easier to work with08:33
Lord_MaynothI know autopackage is working on making software installation as easy as windows08:34
Lord_MaynothI wonder if they will branch off into drivers in the far future08:34
wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, drivers are nothing but software ... l08:34
MadpilotPPCLord_Maynoth, Synaptic is easier than Windows already, really... and covers drivers too, mostly...08:34
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, autopackage is not a panacea, and that is not how drivers work in Linux08:34
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WebLOCHPenguin, yeah but in th emean time ill have to un-overclock the processors08:34
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bjvfrozensoul: tritium has shown me the way of dpkg,   try man dpkg08:35
frozensoulbjv, thank you08:35
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, installing drivers after the fact is, in fact, a bug08:35
naliothLord_Maynoth: have a look at this http://www.gnu.org/software/sourceinstall/sourceinstall.html08:35
bjvmay i ask a question?08:36
wickedpuppybjv, you just did08:36
Lord_Maynothwell at what point do you guys think that linux will be completely installable, configureable, and usable without the command line08:36
bjvhmph. :p08:36
Lord_Maynothperhaps thats a better question08:36
tristanmikefrozensoul, "sudo dpkg -i <packagename>08:36
wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, command line is what making me use linux08:36
wickedpuppyif i want click click click ... i go back to windows08:37
MadpilotPPCLord_Maynoth, the only thing I've really *had* to use the command line for is lm-sensors...08:37
jrrdoes ubuntu come without mp3 capability a la redhat?08:37
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Lord_Maynothmaybe I should just go back to dos08:37
Burgundaviajrr, not by default08:37
naliothjrr: correct08:37
Lord_MaynothLOL08:37
wickedpuppyjrr, yes ... no mp3 out of the box08:37
Burgundaviajrr, sorry, misread question08:37
wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, dos is nothing like bash ... pls don't compare them :P08:37
bjvwait it cant play mp3's out of the box?08:38
WebLOCHbbs08:38
bjvim pretty sure 5.04 did..08:38
jrri'd imagine there's something in multiverse for mp3?08:38
naliothbjv: nope08:38
Burgundaviabjv, it didn't08:38
jrr(mpg123 for now =] )08:38
naliothubotu: tell jrr about mp308:38
wickedpuppybjv, nope ... no free distro provides mp3 playability out of the box08:38
bjvare you absolutely sure?08:38
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wickedpuppybjv, ... yes ... lol08:39
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Lord_Maynothubuntu played my mp3s fine08:39
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bjvim blown away.. i dont think i had to apt-get xmms..08:39
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B_166-ER-Xwhat is the default path to system sounds (.wav)  in hoary ?08:39
Lord_Maynothi hate apt-get08:39
bjvi guess i might have. installing 5.04 was a while ago. :P08:39
wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, out of the box .. no08:39
Lord_Maynoth:P08:39
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wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, you also hate synaptic then ?08:39
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bjvi love apt.             .. except for it seems to be failing me right now. :(((08:40
Lord_Maynothbeing tied to a central repository fork-n socks08:40
bjvi have no idea where to look for  'openal-config'08:40
Lord_Maynoth:P08:40
jrrit doesn't seem like that royalty thing could hold up against free decoders like lame08:40
B_166-ER-Xsomeone ? just look in your 'sound' configuration..08:40
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wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, no you are not... you can make ya own repos ...08:40
thoreauputicLord_Maynoth: not true - you can compile on Ubuntu if you wish for example - besides which th erepos have > 17 000 packages...08:41
Lord_Maynothyeah if I knew how to code08:41
wickedpuppymaking repos need no coding ...08:41
Lord_Maynothif I took the time to learn the command line08:41
abimael_sesshoumaru@hotmail.com08:41
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naliothLord_Maynoth: and compiling requires very little knowledge08:41
frozensoulcan i install the kde packets from kubuntu to ubuntu ?08:42
wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, ... everything new takes time ... i don't see the problem there ...08:42
thoreauputicLord_Maynoth: learning the command line will set you free ;)08:42
naliothfrozensoul: i dont understand your question08:42
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benkong2I have searched the net over and now need help on a dpkg -l |grep postfix? In the output each fille has an "ii" in the first column and one file has an "rc". What or where do I find the meaning of the symbols?08:42
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frozensoulnalioth, i am with ubuntu, and i want kde ..08:43
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naliothfrozensoul: install "kubuntu-desktop"08:43
vengefulbrb08:43
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wickedpuppyfrozensoul, why not just install kubuntu then ??08:44
thoreauputicbenkong2: dpkg -l tells you at the top of the output...08:44
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thoreauputicbenkong2:  ii means installed08:44
benkong2thoreauputic; I see that but none of the output says rc08:44
Lord_Maynothi dunno linux just will not be ready for main stream until there is an easy way to point and click install,uninstall, update drivers and software08:44
benkong2unless rc is half-installed08:45
frozensoulbecause i installed ubuntu :)08:45
wickedpuppylol Lord_Maynoth use mac :P08:45
Lord_Maynoththats not my point wicked08:45
MadpilotPPCLord_Maynoth, it's called Synaptic, it already exists...08:45
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naliothfrozensoul: if you install kubuntu-desktop you'll have kde08:45
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wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, i for one stronngly resist clicking for everything ... if i do that i go back to windows ... or stop using X08:46
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, drivers should just work. As for software, see the Add Applications utility in breezy08:46
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Lord_Maynothusers will have to be able to download 4rd party drivers and software and be able to install and unstall them before linux is going to be mainstream08:47
Lord_Maynoth3rd08:47
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Lord_Maynothjust my$0.0208:47
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wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, have you tried cedega or crossover office ?08:47
wickedpuppyi think not08:48
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, if the hardware doesn't work ootb, it is a bug08:48
wickedpuppythose already have installer and uninstaller08:48
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Lord_Maynothseems a lot of people i talk to think linux should never be mainstream.... that that would ruin the spirit of linux08:48
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CarlFKdoes the live CD have a cd burner app?08:48
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FR500does breezy have gnome 2.2?08:48
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Lord_Maynothwicked... i really do not want to run windows apps inside of linux if i can help it08:48
BurgundaviaFR500, the current stable verstino of gnome is 2.1208:48
topyliFR500: it has 2.1208:49
benkong2thoreauputic; I shall keep looking but the exact file list is: "rc  postfix-tls    2.1.5-9ubuntu3   TLS and SASL support for Postfix"08:49
FR500oh08:49
esac2.12.0 to be precise08:49
Lord_Maynothis there still no good menu editor for gnome08:49
Lord_Maynoththats really surprising..08:49
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, yes there is08:49
Lord_Maynothhehe08:49
wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, i am telling you installer and uninstaller for commercial apps are already there08:49
FR500Lord_Maynoth: SMEG is good08:49
Lord_Maynothsmeg was awful08:49
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Lord_Maynothhehe08:49
adilhello08:49
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esacLord_Maynoth: i was just thinking that as i am currently using smeg which sucks08:49
BurgundaviaLord_Maynoth, if you are here to disagree, please take it elsewhere08:49
Lord_Maynothi had to add new repos just to be able to download it08:49
topyliLord_Maynoth: what exactly is wrong with smeg?08:49
esaci don't understand why i cant delete items from the menu. for some reason anjuta is hanging around on the menu even though i removed it08:50
thoreauputicbenkong2: hmm - not sure what the "rc" stands for but I've seen it with removed packages (ones that were not purged of configuration files)08:50
Lord_Maynothi could only hide items08:50
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Lord_Maynothwhich I thought was lame08:50
Lord_Maynothi saw no true add/delete functionality08:50
esacnod i don't see delete functionality either :(08:50
thoreauputicbenkong2: I was jsut looking at man dpkg - haven't found it yet - maybe "retained configuration?" (dunno)08:50
wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, you are not here to ask for help are you ?? #ubuntu-offtopic ?08:50
topyliLord_Maynoth: oh, ok. that's true with hoary at least08:51
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benkong2thoreauputic; k thanks08:51
Lord_Maynothno I came here to ask questions that everyone ignores08:51
Lord_MaynothLOL08:51
Xanthus7is the new 64 bit ubuntu ready yet08:51
wickedpuppyreally ?? for past few minutes you been complaining about linux08:51
tristanmikesorry, what was wrong with Smeg Lord_Maynoth ?08:51
nalioth_zZzLord_Maynoth: they are 'ignored' because your answer isnt here. no reason to clutter the channel while you wait08:51
esactristanmike: you can't delete menu items, just hide them08:51
tristanmikeesac, right click08:52
tristanmikedelete08:52
esacnope08:52
tristanmikeyup08:52
esacdelete is grayed out08:52
bjvis the answer to my question "what package is 'openal-config' in?" somewhere else?08:52
bjvbecause i dont know where else to look.08:52
bjvis this an unofficial help channel>?08:52
topylitristanmike: that only works for menu items you have created yourself. naturally, smeg cannot delete items from /usr/share08:52
esactopyli: but i tried "sudo smeg" and it still wouldn't let me08:52
FR500topyli: which is actually good08:53
Lord_Maynothwhat do you guys think of xandros08:53
esacyep just tried sudo smeg again and it still won't let me08:53
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Xanthus7is the new 64bit ubuntu ready08:53
wickedpuppybjv, i don't see a package named openal-config08:53
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thoreauputicbjv: read the /topic and see :)08:53
topyliFR500: of course. a user cannot know if another user wants a menu item or not08:53
wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, is this your question ?08:53
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Xanthus7hello08:53
Lord_Maynothyour opinions on xandros excuse me08:53
thoreauputicLord_Maynoth: #ubuntu-offtopic exists, you know08:54
wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, this is a help channel and not opinion poll channel ...08:54
Lord_Maynothoh08:54
FR500well  we like ubuntu08:54
Xanthus7What about 64bit ubuntu08:54
Lord_Maynoththought this was offtopic08:54
Kimahrii run ubuntu o nmy lappyt08:54
KimahriLord_Maynoth: read the topic.08:54
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Kimahriespecially the first part08:54
thoreauputicLord_Maynoth: in fact #ubuntu-offtopic can be *very* offtopic08:55
topyliLord_Maynoth: sometimes it is :)08:55
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Lord_Maynothok08:55
bjvwickedpuppy: ive tried and not found it in both  libopenal-dev  &   libopenal008:55
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Kimahrii run ubuntu on me lappy, but my other linux boxen run either gentoo or SuSE08:55
bjvwhat other openal packages are there?08:55
Lord_Maynothwell here is an genuine honest question08:55
snausageshow can i reset the attributes of a folder through the terminal?08:55
wickedpuppybjv, are you searching in synaptic ?08:55
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Lord_Maynothwhere can I buy a training manual that will take me from ubernoob to ubergeek in linux08:56
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wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, no where08:56
Lord_Maynothreccomendations08:56
bjvwickedpuppy: "apt-cache search openal"08:56
KimahriLord_Maynoth: you just have to play around with it for quite a long time.08:56
Lord_Maynothso there is nothing to teach me the ins and outs of the command line08:56
thoreauputicLord_Maynoth: look at the O'Reilly website as a start I guess08:56
bjvLord_Maynoth: man helps. :\08:56
Lord_Maynothi just have to google till i drop08:56
wickedpuppyLord_Maynoth, man08:56
Lord_Maynothlol08:56
Lord_Maynothok08:56
Lord_Maynoththkanks08:57
thoreauputicLord_Maynoth: http://tuxfiles.org08:57
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KimahriLord_Maynoth: it took me almost 2 years to learn a lot.  i started on Mandrake 9.0, and then i started dinking around a bit.08:57
iiiearslinuxquestions.org is a good start read a few pages every day.08:57
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topyliLord_Maynoth: install the debian documentation packages, and you can at least learn to use debian and ubuntu :)08:57
KimahriLord_Maynoth: and of course, man <package> help a bit.08:57
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Lord_Maynothi like actual books though08:57
k-0tikits not the thing to have books on08:57
bjvwhat if  'OpenAL-config'  is not in any of the ubuntu packages?08:57
Xanthus7Can anyone tell me if they have ever completed ubuntu for 64 bit08:57
bjvwhat do i do then?08:57
wickedpuppybjv, well ... i got those both them08:57
topyliLord_Maynoth: your book will be obsolete in six months08:58
esacdoes anybody know if there is any support in kdevelop for c# ?08:58
thoreauputicLord_Maynoth: O'Reilly publish "Linux in a Nutshell" for instance08:58
wickedpuppybjv, openal-config is not anywhere ... i don't see it in synaptic or in apt-cache08:58
KimahriLord_Maynoth: most of the books i'vee seen are distro specific... like redhat or mandrake.08:58
bjvwell it should be at /usr/bin/openal-config08:58
wickedpuppyesac, c# ? you need mono08:58
bjvif there is a package that installs it. :\08:58
KimahriLord_Maynoth: every distro does things differently08:58
thoreauputicLord_Maynoth: sudo apt-get install apt-howto *grin*08:58
wickedpuppybjv,  not on my machine08:58
iiiearslol08:58
bjv(02:57:48) bjv: what if  'OpenAL-config'  is not in any of the ubuntu packages?08:58
bjv(02:57:51) bjv: what do i do then?08:58
bjv:(08:58
Xanthus7can anyone see me at all08:59
bjvXanthus7: no.08:59
wickedpuppywhy you need that is ... beyond me ?08:59
KimahriXanthus7: i see ya08:59
topyliwickedpuppy: you can write c# code without mono, the question was about kdevelop :)08:59
thoreauputicXanthus7: no you are invisible08:59
thoreauputic;)08:59
wickedpuppywrite ... compile ?08:59
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wickedpuppyyou can write the code on anywhere .... vi emacs nano .. i thought the question was to compile it09:00
topyliwickedpuppy: i don't know much about kdevelop but AFAIK it's not a compiler09:00
esachas anybody gotten teleport to work ?09:00
Lord_Maynothwell maybe in 5 years if tcpa hasn't killed open source by then... maybe then linux will have evolved enough to go mainstream... I will give it that... it is evolving so fast... I remember how much linux has improved over the past 3 years.... but it has so far to go09:00
Lord_Maynothany09:00
Lord_Maynothwho09:00
Lord_Maynoththanks see ya09:00
wickedpuppywell then i missed his question topyli  ... he can write on any prog that accepts keyboard input09:00
topyliesac: no, but it's a long-lasting dream of human kind :)09:00
wickedpuppylol09:00
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zeneki cannot play mp3's (There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg). what i have to do? msg me in priv... ty09:00
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esactopyli: really? i learned to teleport years ago, but i still haven't gotten the program "teleport" to work :(09:01
wickedpuppyzenek, no sound or can't play mp3 ?09:01
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Myrtti!mp309:01
ubotumethinks mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support09:01
topyliesac: exactly =)09:01
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cosimo321HELLO ALL09:02
wickedpuppycosimo321, no caps pls09:02
cosimo321WHY NOT09:02
wickedpuppyoh boy09:03
vengefullol09:03
Myrttibecause it's yelling09:03
topyliesac: looks pretty useful for some situations09:03
cosimo321HOW IS CAPITOL LETTERS YELLING?09:03
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bjvLINUX PEOPLE ARE FREAKED OUT BY CAPS09:03
cosimo321OOOO09:03
esactopyli: ive tried quite a few programs now, and everytime i run teleport it says "there are no windows available that will work with teleport, teleport now exiting"09:03
bjvTHIS IS NOT A MAINFRAME ENVIRONMENT09:03
topylicosimo321: you are about to be ignored by a lot of people09:03
jrrhate of all-caps crosses platforms.09:03
cosimo321You have got to be kidding?09:03
Myrttiidiots09:04
cosimo321Fine no caps unless I have to IMPRESS something on you guys09:04
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bjvalso the use of lowercase sans-serif characters increases readability.09:04
esaccosimo321: we dont even capitalize the first word of each sentence09:04
cosimo321ok09:04
topylialtough we should really :)09:04
bjvthe letters have their own shapes and flows well.09:04
bjvcaps does not.09:04
cosimo321I do have a couple of serious questions being sort of new to breezy09:04
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topyliaren't we all new to breezy? _)09:05
cosimo321The other night I asked how to install the drivers for the nvidia fx5200 pci card.09:05
cosimo321 The directions given screwed up my system.09:05
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cosimo321Today I will ask again and also about configuring the wqacom tools in breezy09:05
wickedpuppyi got nvidia gforce fx 5500 ... i used ubuntuguide.org ... and i am still alive09:05
cosimo321wacom09:06
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tristanmikecosimo321, it's AGP actually, not PCI09:06
tristanmikei have the same card09:06
cosimo321my card is pci09:06
vengefuldidnt know they still bothered making pci cards09:06
esacwhat is the advantage of ESD over ALSA? i noticed that by default, breezy uses the ESD sink. ive always heard that ALSA is better. any opinions?09:06
zeneki can play *.ogg files but no *.mp3. what i have to do to play mp3's?09:06
cosimo321what about the wacom tools09:06
wickedpuppyzenek, did you go to the site that ubotu gave ya ?09:07
Myrtti!mp309:07
ubotump3 is, like, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support09:07
bjvesac: i use ALSA extensively because i require software mixing.09:07
topyliesac: it depends if your card supports multiple simultaneous sounds or not. if not, you may want a sound server like esd09:07
iiiearscosimo - that doesn't sound like fun :/  - unless you need to wring the last bit of performance from your video card. nvidia-glx in synaptic is much easier to install than the nvidia site's drivers09:07
bjvesac: ESD is from the enlightenment desktop/whatever environment? im not aware of any reason to use it.09:07
cosimo321Ok when I go into find files and go to /dev, all files under there are greyd out. how to change this?09:07
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esacnaw i think my sound card is fairly new and can support multiple streams. if you mean can i watch pr0n and listen to hatebreed at the same time, then, yes09:08
cosimo321Yeah but the synaptic drivers screw up my system09:08
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cuscohi.. when I open a .mpg link firefox tryes to use a totem plugin instead of mplayer-mozilla09:08
cosimo321what about the greyd out files09:08
topyliesac: then you are lucky and kick esd out09:08
cosimo321oops new update just appeared for breezy09:09
topyliesac: it sucks anyway09:09
esacso by default esd is used for better compatibility then09:09
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tzapachuauhello09:09
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cosimo321I realize Breezy is just a preview right now but they need to have serious hardware support right out of the box09:10
cosimo321If not it will go by the way of BeOs09:10
cosimo321I still use Be and like it,09:11
cosimo321I also like this Breezy but I see little difference between the two except for GUI09:12
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topyliesac: i think breezy uses alsa by default and esd is just there "in case a user is poor and has an old sound blaster"09:12
bjvdoesnt Breezy have the same hardware support as Hoary?09:12
bjvHoary support == uber serious afaiac09:12
esaccosimo321: i've installed it on 2 laptops and an amd64 and an em64t and haven't had a single driver missing as of yet09:12
tzapachuaumy sound plays only in xmms09:12
Burgundaviabjv, it should support more than haory09:12
bjvBurgundavia: for real.09:12
tzapachuauwhen i try to play video files in VLC it didnot work09:12
topyliaah. OOo update09:12
vengefulhas more wireless support09:12
tzapachuauam using esound output pluggins09:12
wickedpuppytzapachuau, #vlc or email videolan's support ?09:12
Burgundaviabjv, if you see a regression, file a bug09:12
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iiiearsIs anyone here an Unreal Tournament Sniper server aficianado? - Ubuntu doesn't like ut-install-436-goty.run09:12
cosimo321I am going to update be back later09:12
Burgundaviacosimo321, if something doesn't work, file a bug09:12
topylicosimo321: good luck finding apps for it :(09:12
bjvspeaking of filing a bug..09:13
tzapachuauwickedpuppy,  my sound does not work in other playes too09:13
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wickedpuppytzapachuau, but sound does work in xmms ?09:13
bjvi can find no way of getting the 'openal-config'  script from the apt repos.09:13
tzapachuauyups ion xmms09:13
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bjvwho do i talk to about this?09:13
Burgundaviabjv, file a bug09:13
wickedpuppytzapachuau, each player has internal sound control ... have you tried adjusted them ?09:14
Burgundaviabjv, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug09:14
bjvBurgundavia: *following bugzilla link*09:14
bjvoh, thx.09:14
tzapachuauis there anything to change in the system/prefernce/multimedia system selector09:14
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bjvtzapachuau: your file browser controls how it opens files, your media player controls how it uses your hardware09:15
tzapachuaubut there is no ortion for esound09:16
bjvyour issue seems to not be with #ubuntu?09:16
tzapachuaui mean that option is not selectred09:16
tzapachuaui mean that option is not selected09:16
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topylitzapachuau: if your apps are esd-aware, it's best to select it. dunno about vlc09:16
tzapachuauok09:16
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tzapachuaui think VLC does not support it09:17
tzapachuauonly Linux OSS09:17
tzapachuauDummy09:17
tzapachuauand file output09:17
tzapachuauare there09:17
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topylitzapachuau: that's very lame09:17
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Pickle_WeaselVLC the player doesn't support esd?09:17
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cuscohi.. when I open a .mpg link firefox tryes to use a totem plugin instead of mplayer-mozilla09:18
tzapachuauos the best option will be Linux OSS09:18
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topylithat's the worst option for linux sound AFAIK, but if you really want vlc, and it supports nothing else, then what the hell09:19
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elc2hi! can anyone tell me how to update  hoary to breezy?09:20
thoreauputic!upgrade2breezy09:20
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade09:20
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tzapachuautopyli, then how do i change my sound output functions09:23
topyliin system -> prefs -> multimedia selector09:23
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Pickle_Weaselis breezy spable enough to upgrade to yet?09:26
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Pickle_Weaselstable, even09:27
topyliPickle_Weasel: for a desktop, i do think so09:27
Pickle_Weaseli see09:27
Pickle_Weaselthe reason i ask is because last week i was told to stay away from it09:27
tzapachuauso i need to restart09:27
topyliPickle_Weasel: it depends really. just _how_ stable do you want? there is still a risk they will break it :)09:28
Pickle_Weasel=\09:28
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topyliPickle_Weasel: on my desktops, it has behaved ok for quite a while. the only annoying thing is upgrading 150 packages every morning09:30
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Pickle_Weaselheh, they pump out upgrades that fast?09:30
thoreauputicPickle_Weasel: yes, that's normal09:31
topyliPickle_Weasel: well, something a problem with X does mean upgrading quite a few packages09:31
thoreauputicPickle_Weasel: it will suddenly stop after release :)09:31
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topylithoreauputic: yeah, i almost switched back to debian unstable :)09:32
thoreauputicheheh09:33
topyliwhich really is unstable again09:33
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thoreauputictopyli: are they doing the gcc4 and xorg transitions ?09:33
dhonnlol09:33
thoreauputicin sid I mean...09:33
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dhonnim a bleeding edge adict i cant wait for dapper drake09:34
Pickle_Weaselnow, doing this update, changing all the "hoary's" to "breezy's," do i also change things like "hoary-security" to "breezy-security" and so on?09:34
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thoreauputicdhonn: you have to wait for the devs to sober up after the release parties ;)09:34
topylithoreauputic: i don't know what's causing it, this is what i hear. those are good candidates. they are also getting gnome 2.10 in09:34
Pickle_Weaselthe repositories, i mean09:34
dhonnlol? i want the drunken code09:35
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tristanmikegood night to all09:35
vengefulbrb09:35
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dhonnlol i have aready upgraded my friends deskops to breezy09:36
dhonnwhen it was stable enough09:36
ormandjanybody here using some form of mysql authentication for user logins?09:36
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thoreauputicPickle_Weasel: yes you change all instances of the word09:36
ormandja-la pam-mysql or nss-mysql?09:36
Pickle_Weaselok, thank you09:36
Pickle_Weaseli just did that, i will now attempt to update >_<09:36
topylidhonn: didn't break this morning either when i did the regular updates09:37
dhonnjust 10 more days09:37
Pickle_Weaselchanging all instances of the word got me a lot of error messages when reloading synaptic09:37
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dhonnwhat do you think about a clean install, is it nessessary?09:38
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thoreauputic!tell Pickle_Weasel about upgrade2breezy09:38
Pickle_Weaseli know..i followed that09:38
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ilpavoxis there a linux partitioning tool that is non-destructive?09:39
Pickle_Weaseland i did what it asked me, the error messages still stand09:39
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thoreauputicPickle_Weasel: well, Seveas has a list of sources for breezy - try that approach09:39
thoreauputic!sources09:39
ubotuwell, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)09:39
Pickle_Weaselyay09:39
Pickle_Weasel^.^09:39
thoreauputicPickle_Weasel: the last URL I guess09:39
ompauldhonn, depends on what you want, you can do it if you want to.09:40
Pickle_Weaselaye, i got it, thank you =)09:40
thoreauputic:)09:40
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TiMiDoyay09:41
TiMiDoi'm updating to breezy09:41
vengefulhurray ;-)09:42
dreamwavewell that was relatively painless.  now operating from my dual boot system with ubuntu 5.10 colony 5.  updates are downloading while i type.09:42
TiMiDonice dreamwave09:42
dreamwaveso, 2 hours total including downloading the iso.09:42
Pickle_Weaselubuntu can be the easiest OS ever to install something in09:43
dreamwavethanks09:43
Pickle_Weaselunless what you want isn't in synaptic, then it's a major pain >.>09:43
ompaulPickle_Weasel, it is as hard a installing something on Debian09:43
Pickle_Weaselwell, debian and ubuntu are very similar, after all09:43
dhonnfirefox needs a 6 month release cycle09:43
TiMiDoyeah they are09:43
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ompauldhonn, no, it needs a release cycle that makes sense, fix bugs add new stuff and move along09:44
dreamwavei noticed that i currently don't have a terminal available.  is that by design?  i plan to fetch gnome-terminal.09:44
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topylidhonn: yes, everybody should release on the same day gnome does :)09:45
thoreauputicdreamwave: try looking in "Accessories"09:45
Burgundaviadreamwave, you should have gnome-terminal installed by default09:45
vengefulyou should have one09:45
dhonnim runnin firefox 1.5 beta2 it would be cool if it was done aready so it can be included in 5.1009:45
ompaultopyli, ohh come on, the day after09:45
dreamwaveah.  there it is.09:45
Pickle_Weaseli hear in breezy gnome, everything is anti alaised09:45
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topyliompaul: oh yes, they need to test thoroughly ;-)09:45
thoreauputic!openterm09:46
ubotuTo add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package09:46
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clastPickle_Weasel, yeah it looks really smooth09:46
topyliPickle_Weasel: yes, it's cairo enabled. not many apps are though09:46
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TiMiDoWhat's breezy like on debian? sarge sid?09:47
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ompaulTiMiDo, six month old sid09:47
ompaulon the day it was formed it was sid09:47
TiMiDooh nice09:47
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TiMiDoso now?09:47
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topyliit's newer than sid :)09:47
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BurgundaviaTiMiDo, some parts are newer than sid, some are older09:47
rawiramdhanHello09:48
thoreauputicompaul: well, gnome 2.12 isn't in sid yet09:48
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TiMiDorawiramdhan,  hello09:48
ompaulit is six months of improvement on that position with some of its parts changed09:48
topyliTiMiDo: i mean the desktop parts i care about are newer09:48
BurgundaviaTiMiDo, but for the first half of the development cycle, we should be exactly synced to sid, with some newer peices09:48
thoreauputicyah09:48
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rawiramdhanDoes anyone know where I can change my xterm fonts/color etc?09:48
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TiMiDorawiramdhan,  put new fonts on .fonts man xterm09:48
No1Viking!tell me about breezy09:48
jrrrawiramdhan: as arguments to xterm, but i presume also in some kind of .xterm or .xtermrc09:49
ompaulTiMiDo, there you are 5 people looking at the same thing with more or less the same views and different things  being said :)09:49
topylirawiramdhan: command line options, or .Xdefaults i guess09:49
jrrgrr silly wacom stopped working09:49
TiMiDoyeah ompaul09:49
ompaulthoreauputic, voip09:49
topylirawiramdhan: it's been a while since i used it09:49
thoreauputicompaul: OK hang on a minute :)09:49
rawiramdhanI cant find .Xdefaults, I can change the color etc with commands but i cant save it09:49
TiMiDorawiramdhan, do you have access to it?09:50
thoreauputicrawiramdhan: ~/.Xdefaults you create yourself :)09:50
topylirawiramdhan: i would put "alias xterm='xterm -my -options -that -i -like'" in my bashrc09:50
TiMiDorawiramdhan,  don't msg me09:50
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rawiramdhanI'll make a .Xdefaults file...09:51
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JuzzyHey guys, seeking help, got 2 hdds, hda (pata) and another sata hard drive, but when i look for hdb its nnot there... and hdc won't mount due to mount: No medium found09:53
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tcabhhi09:55
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tcabhhi09:56
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tcabhanyone care to chat09:56
TiMiDotcabh, hi do not repeat please09:56
TiMiDotcabh, #ubuntu-offtopic09:56
Cicakmanhello.... does breezy badger come with gtk+2.7 or higher??09:56
TiMiDo!info gtk+ breezy09:56
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TiMiDo!info gtk breezy09:56
Cicakmani wanted to install clearlooks-cairo, but it needs that....09:56
Cicakman!info09:56
TiMiDoCicakman, apt-cache search gtk09:56
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Cicakman!info gtk+ breezy09:57
calamariI have a composite output on this ati rage video card.. can send output to it?09:57
Cicakman!info gtk breezy09:57
CicakmanTiMiDo... errr.. how do i know the version??09:58
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TiMiDoCicakman, apt-cache search gtk or info package09:58
topyligotta love last.fm. no need to think about what i would like next :)09:58
dooglusCicakman: breezy comes with 2.8.4-0ubuntu209:59
dooglusCicakman: I found out like this: chris@chrislap:~$ apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 | grep Candid09:59
dooglus  Candidate: 2.8.4-0ubuntu209:59
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Cicakmandooglus: thx.....10:00
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Cicakmandooglus: any idea why clearlooks-cairo still complain that it needs gtk+2.8 or higher?10:01
dooglusCicakman: if you don't have breezy already, you can find out on the web: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/libgtk2.0-010:01
dooglusCicakman: it complains?  how do you see that complaint?10:01
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Cicakmandooglus: i'm compiling from source10:01
Cicakmanchecking for GTK... configure: error: GTK+-2.7 or newer is required to compile clearlooks-cairo10:01
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dooglusCicakman: which source package?10:01
thoreauputicCicakman: you need the -dev package10:01
dreamwaveokay.  i've added my windows hda2 to fstab and ubuntu does the right thing and places an icon for it on the desktop.  i've added my login to the 'disk' group.  but i still don't have read access to the drive.  is that because the shell the X occupies doesn't realize that i now belong to the 'disk' group?10:02
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dooglusCicakman: use 'apt-get build-dep' to install the build dependancies10:02
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bob2Cicakman: sudo aptitude install build-essential gnome-devel10:02
Cicakmani downloaded from cvs10:02
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bob2Cicakman: note that it's unlikely to build on hoary at all, so you'll need to be using breezy10:02
Cicakmanbob2: i'm using breezy10:03
Cicakmani downloaded clearlooks-cairo from cvs10:03
bob2anyway, as above10:03
Cicakmanclearlooks-cairo is not in ubuntu repository, how can i use apt-get???10:03
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bob2Cicakman: anyway, do what I said10:04
Cicakmanok...10:04
thoreauputicCicakman: bob2 is suggesting you get the dependencies with apt10:04
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thoreauputicwhich will make life a lot easier...10:05
Cicakmanis it significantly prettier?10:05
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clastCicakman, it's supposed to be prettier, but rather slow and buggy10:06
thoreauputicwhere "significantly" has some random subjective value...10:06
Cicakmanclast: uh oh....10:06
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Cicakmanso you guys wouldnt recommend me to use it?10:06
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clastCicakman, give me a sec, i read an article about it recently mybe i can find it for you10:07
scandium_hi, I tried installing breezy/amd64 (preview release, colony 5 and yesterday's daily build) but the installer always fails when trying to process libc6-udeb or jfsutils-udeb with a read error (console output is WARNING: ** bad md5sum) - but I checked the md5sum of all isos, let the burning app verify the disc and I used three different discs for each iso and even 2 different burning devices10:07
bob2doesn't the default gtk theme engine in breezy use cairo, anyway?10:07
bob2scandium_: have you let the cd try to verify itself yet?10:07
Cicakmanbob2: not sure about that.. but i notice there's a slight change in the interface10:08
scandium_yes, it says the integrity is OK after 2 seconds10:08
bob22 seconds seems abnormally short10:08
scandium_thought so, too ;)10:08
bob2and by that I mean "impossibly short"10:08
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bob2scandium_: can you do a "md5sum /dev/cdrom" or so of it?10:08
dreamwavefigured it out.  http://ubuntuguide.org is a great resource.10:08
ompaulCicakman, its a free world, you can do with is as you choose, however all people here will do for you is try to let you know of the risks, after that it is your call, so for instance if you were a brilliant developer then it might be worth the risk and in fact you might add something to the project, or you could be someone who wants it for learning about, or something else10:08
bob2Cicakman: have they done a release of it yet?10:09
scandium_bob2, do you think it would make any sense to try the 32bit version?10:09
bob2it's not in Debian is weird10:09
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bob2scandium_: I'd try the above thing first10:09
Cicakmanbob2: release of?10:09
bob2Cicakman: the theme engine10:09
Cicakmanompaul: hmm... i understand that10:09
Cicakmanbob2: i'm not sure about that10:09
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prabu^Hello all10:10
prabu^does anyone have a problem where ubuntu just stalls on all http transfers but ftp transfers are fine10:10
clastno10:10
clast^^10:10
prabu^:10:10
prabu^:S10:10
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clastprabu^, any firewall settings that could case that?10:11
prabu^nope10:11
prabu^i dont got a firewall even10:11
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dreamwavelooks like my install updates has stalled on: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs10:13
dreamwaveno not hat...10:13
dreamwavethat even.10:13
dreamwavethis: Setting up gucharmap (1.4.4-1ubuntu1) ...10:13
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calamariis there a way to set a program that normally requires su or sudo, to be able to run as a normal user without typing a password?10:15
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thenukeI bet there are, I just dont happen to know how you should do it10:15
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iiiears   calamari - the sudoers file?10:15
topylicalamari: yes, you can shoot yourself in the foot like that10:15
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Cicakmanhmm using clearlooks-cairo now10:15
Cicakmannot much difference10:15
calamaritopyli: cool, how?10:15
thenukeiiiears: sudoers.. he did not want to have some user to be able to be root10:16
dooglusdreamwave, can you run a separate shell and see what processes are running?10:16
doogluscalamari: you probably just need to "chmod 4755 <program>"10:16
iiiearscreate  a process and a user process group?10:16
topylicalamari: you can edit the sudoers file and let some users require no password. then sudo won't bother them with one10:17
topylicalamari: this of course is a very silly thing to do10:17
iiiearsit certainly is10:17
calamariI don't want it to do this for every program, just one10:17
topylicalamari: man sudoers. you can do that too10:17
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doogluscalamari: that will make the program run as the user who owns it.  so you'll need to 'chown' the program to root ownership first if it's not already owned by root10:18
doogluscalamari: what program are you talking about?10:18
iiiearscreate a user group for your one process and give it limited rights10:18
iiiears?10:18
topylicalamari: you just don't want to read a man page :)10:18
iiiearslol10:18
doogluslots of people are scared of manpages10:19
TiMiDosudo aptitude install build-essential gnome-devel10:19
TiMiDoUnpacking replacement kscd ...10:19
TiMiDoErrors were encountered while processing:10:19
TiMiDo /var/cache/apt/archives/kdevelop3-data_4%3a3.2.2-0ubuntu2_all.deb10:19
TiMiDoE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:19
TiMiDoany ideas?10:19
calamaridooglus: cool, 4755 worked great :)  thanks10:19
doogluscalamari: be careful.  all your users can now run that program as root without a password.10:20
iiiearseverytime i open a man page some knowledge sneaks in. beginning to wonder what escapes to make room for the new knowledge. - lol10:20
topylicalamari: including the crackers and broken programs etc.10:20
calamaridooglus: yeah, I10:20
calamari'll be :)10:20
calamariI'm using it for atitvout.. when I start the tv mode, I lose console10:21
calamariso I need to be able to type something easily and know it'll work without extra password aggravations10:21
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iiiearscalamari do you have an all in wonder card?10:21
Cicakmanwhy "Open Terminal" is removed from right click popup menu in breezy :(10:21
topylicalamari: sounds sane. although you seem to have a buggy system too10:21
calamarinope.. ati rage mobility10:21
calamaritopyli: some tv cards can support dual console and tv out, mine can't10:22
TiMiDoperl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:10:22
TiMiDo        LANGUAGE = "en",10:22
TiMiDo        LC_ALL = (unset),10:22
TiMiDo        LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"10:22
TiMiDo    are supported and installed on your system.perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").10:22
TiMiDoany ideaS?10:22
iiiearsah okay. battled with mine last week...  It won heh i returned it and got a hauppage10:22
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topyliTiMiDo: well, are the locales "supported and installed"? check with 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'10:23
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TiMiDoperl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").10:26
TiMiDolocale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory10:26
TiMiDolocale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory10:26
TiMiDolocale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory10:26
Cicakmancan anyone tell me where i can get w32codecs? it's not in breezy badger's repository....10:26
TiMiDo/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed wtf?10:26
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topyliouch10:26
iveqyhi, does anyone know how to let all keystrokes be passed on to the program inside a xterm? I can't find it in the manual...10:26
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iiiears!w32codecs10:29
ubotuI heard w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439910:29
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doubleukaywow, quite a populated channel10:30
doubleukayjust a quick Q, does anyone know if apt-get works on the livecd? i'm helping a friend troubleshoot over the phone here10:31
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Cicakmandoubleukay: dont think so.....10:31
iiiearsmostly friendly too. - lol - well that is until you bring up the age old debate Emacs V. VI. - grin10:31
doubleukayhehe10:31
doubleukayi'm a vim user myself :)10:31
NsOmNiAcI never learned emacs10:32
NsOmNiAcalways use vi or vim10:32
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NsOmNiAcerrrr used10:32
doubleukayi still remember some of its shortcuts.10:32
jnoonanyone know how to get the commands in a script to display? right now when i run the script it just runs without showing anything .. default bahavior10:33
topylibtw, does the original vi still exist somewhere? would it compile on linux?10:33
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doubleukayjnoon, if it's a bourne shell script, you can add -x or -v to the shebang10:33
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jnoondoubleukay thanks10:33
doubleukayno worries10:34
topylihrm. gnome torrent needs notification area support. it's quite a useless window most of the time10:34
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beti6hi] 10:35
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p0windahmoaning girlos and boyos10:36
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beti6sup10:36
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coobrasponcor me with Thongs to a girl i know :10:37
coobra:P10:37
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Cicakmanhow can i add "open terminal" to the popup menu?10:37
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daejavuive installed EnemyTerritory and want to give its complete Ownership to a user .. how do i do that ?10:39
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daejavuhow do i give complete rights/ownership  to a user ?10:40
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jarkom18any body know how to make floppy recovery from ubuntu..??10:41
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jarkom18i try grub-install /dev/fd0 it's doesn't work...10:42
TiMiDodamn this is weird,10:42
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shinuanyone using a toshiba l10 192 laptop?10:45
No1VikingTried to upgrade to Breezy but got errors in locales. What do I need to do to get it resolved?10:46
doubleukaydaejavu, you mean like, give some user root privileges?10:46
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topylidaejavu: if you mean file permissions, then just chown the file to the user or to a group the user belongs to, then chmod the permissions you want10:48
iiiearsjarkom18 - would a generic boot floppy help? "tmsrtbt" is good10:49
BurgerMannThere is a way to change the default Charset used by Ubuntu, from UTF-8 to ISO-.... Does anyone know how or a resource to how?10:49
hoarytmsrtbt ?? what is it ?10:49
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iiiearsi'll get the link10:50
TiMiDo!Hoary10:50
ubotusomebody said hoary was a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet10:50
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beti6anyone from the philippines here10:51
No1Vikinghttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2731  <--- any ideas how to solve this, else I can not upgrade to Breezy10:51
No1Viking?10:51
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iiiearshttp://www.toms.net/rb/10:51
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thenukeNo1Viking: Breezy is not for you then10:51
hoaryiiiears : what is tmsrtbt?10:52
thenukeNo1Viking: if you dont know how to handle problems what comes with it :D10:52
=== TiMiDo is updating to breezy had little errors, but now it's going thrue
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No1Vikingthenuke: Please elaborate why10:52
ccookeNo1Viking: Upgrading an installed distribution is a difficult problem. It can be done, but if you have much software from other sources, it becomes increasingly nontrivial.10:53
daejavudoubleukay, nops i have a game folder of which permissions are for only Root .. i want a normal user to have all of its permissions and ownership10:53
iiiearsnot.toms.net/twiki/bin/view/Tomsrtbt/QuestionsAnswer the tmsrtbt wiki10:53
thenukeNo1Viking: Just said it, if you dont know how to handle the problems10:53
No1Vikingccooke: So it's better to install from the CD?10:53
strati just compiled the last wine..it installed it under  /usr/local/lib.....where is the ldconfig file at under  /etc/..so i can add /usr/local/lib   to its path???10:53
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ccookeNo1Viking: Especially since Breezy hasn't been released yet, so the upgrade process hasn't been fully tweaked yet.10:54
ccookeNo1Viking: if you want breezy, yes.10:54
doubleukaydaejavu, checkout topylis answer10:54
BurgerMannDon't anyone know how to change from default UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1?10:54
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No1Vikingthenuke: I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales but only get errors10:54
TiMiDoBurgerMann, dpkg-reconfigure locales10:54
daejavudoubleukay, copy that .. it worked :D .. thanks !10:54
TiMiDoNo1Viking, such as?10:54
beti6sup10:54
thenukeNo1Viking: oh, it is going to be officially released very soon :) I did not know that, well wait a few weeks?10:54
No1VikingThanks ccooke10:54
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ccookeNo1Viking: Be aware that it's still a preview release. You should use the latest CD - Colony 5, from the topic.10:54
BurgerMannTiMiDo: thx :)10:54
ccookeNo1Viking: and also, be aware that (while it is mostly stable) some things may not work yet10:55
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ccookeNo1Viking: for instance - I can't mount a windows share yet.10:55
thenukeNo1Viking: and ooooh, I did not figure it out that the upcoming release is not the final X-)10:55
BioLinuxciao ragazzi10:55
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thenukeNo1Viking: blah, Just stay out of it ok :D  it will propably break10:55
ccookethenuke: that's not helpful.10:55
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TiMiDosame error i had No1Viking10:56
thenukeccooke: general policy of the channel as far as I know, is NOT TO help  uncapable ppl to break their systems, ok?10:56
No1VikingOK, TiMiDo10:56
TiMiDowhat error did it came out, when u apt-get dist-upgrade?10:56
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No1Vikingthenuke: stop that crap10:57
daejavubtw anyone playes EnemyTerritory and is having Sound issues ?10:57
No1Vikingyou know nothing about me thenuke10:57
hoaryi try root@jarkom18:/home/jarkom18 # grub-install --root-directory=/media/floppy '(fd0)'10:58
hoarymkdir: cannot create directory `/media/floppy/boot': Read-only file system10:58
thenukeNo1Viking: are you a bit stupid or what part you do not understand? if you dont know how to handle depedency problems, breezy just IS NOT for you10:58
ccookethenuke: that's fine. But you don't have to be so dismissive about it. More to the point, it's much harder to do an upgrade than a fresh install. And we *Want* as many people to try the preview as possible.10:58
thenukeccooke: ok, my mistake then10:58
stratanyone know where and what the name of the file  is that i can add a lib  path..need to add /usr/local/lib  to get wine working..10:58
ccookethenuke: well, let's check.10:58
ccookeEveryone: General opinion - is Breezy stable enough for curious people who aren't massively skilled?10:59
ccookeI think it is, but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise - we're still just under two weeks from release, after all.10:59
Cicakman++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:59
Cicakman -> anyone can give me a clue what this means?10:59
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NsOmNiAcI'm having problems mounting an additonal hard drive anyone have any links to guides ?11:00
ccookeNo1Viking: I'd listen to the opinions here. There are a lot of people here who know their stuff and have tried Breezy.11:00
ccookeNsOmNiAc: tried the one here?11:00
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TiMiDoRebuilding the database. This may take some time..11:00
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ccooke!tell NsOmNiAc about windowsdrives11:01
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NsOmNiAcccooke it's another linux drive11:01
TiMiDoNo1Viking, what error u got when u dist-upgrade to breezy?11:02
NsOmNiAc../dev/hdb1   *           1       76505    38558488+  83  Linux11:02
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NsOmNiAc../dev/hdb2           76506       77545      524160   82  Linux swap / Solaris11:02
No1VikingTiMiDo: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/273111:02
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TiMiDoalright11:02
ccookeNsOmNiAc: Okay. What have you tried?11:02
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TiMiDoNo1Viking, rm /var/cache/apt/archives/wine_0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1_i386.deb11:03
TiMiDoand then do the dist-upgrade again11:03
NsOmNiAcberkowitz:nsomniac~ % mount /dev/hdb111:03
NsOmNiAcmount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab11:03
No1VikingOK11:03
pschulz01Has anyone here tried to install ubuntu on an 'ipod' as an external usb drive? Colony 4 almost worked, but I had some problems with grub.11:04
Trashcan2am monday morning :(11:04
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ccookeNsOmNiAc: ah, okay.11:04
ccookeNsOmNiAc: you need to add it to /etc/fstab.11:04
propagandhipschulz01: I have installed heaps of distros on external usb drives, most often u get a kernel panic VFS unable to sync root filesystem, is that what you got? if so theres an easy fix11:05
TiMiDoNo1Viking, nope11:05
ccookeNsOmNiAc: do you know how to do that?11:05
iiiearsNs0m - check out ubotu's link to winmac_fstab nice easy script11:05
iiiears!ntfs11:05
TiMiDoNo1Viking, did you do apt-get -f install ?11:05
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NsOmNiAcmind walking me through it .. I'm clueless when it comes to doing that11:05
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TiMiDoNo1Viking, yeah breeze hasen't come out yet that's why locales are broken11:05
Cicakmanhas anyone ever installed java on ubuntu?11:05
TiMiDo!tell Cicakman about java11:06
ccookeNsOmNiAc: Might get grabbed for a meeting - I'm at work. But I don't mind :-)11:06
No1VikingOk, thanks TiMiDo11:06
TiMiDoCicakman, read the uRl that ubotu give ya11:06
TiMiDonp No1Viking11:06
NsOmNiAcvery cool thanks11:06
ccookeNsOmNiAc: Okay, first thing is to create the directory it'll be mounted on.11:06
ccookeNsOmNiAc: what is the disk for?11:06
iiiearshttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab11:06
ccookeiiiears: not useful here.11:06
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NsOmNiAcmusic11:06
pschulz01propagandhi: No.. the installer corrupted the previously installed Redhat grub configuration (hda) rather than the usb drive (sda).11:06
ccookeNsOmNiAc: Okay. here's what you do:11:07
pschulz01I would like to know if you've been able to do it with Ubuntu?11:07
ccookeNsOmNiAc: sudo mkdir /media/Music11:07
propagandhiahh i see what you mean11:07
NsOmNiAcdone11:07
ccookeNsOmNiAc: sudo gedit /etc/fstab11:07
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propagandhii have done ubuntu on a USB drive yes, but i chose not to install grub at the end, and instead do it manually later11:08
ccookeNsOmNiAc: what filesystem did you create ?11:08
ccookeNsOmNiAc: ext3? reiser?11:08
ccookeNsOmNiAc: (have you created it yet?)11:08
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NsOmNiAcyes11:08
pschulz01propagandhi: How do you do that? grub; root (sda1); setup(sda) ?11:09
ccookeNsOmNiAc: what command did you use to create the filesystem?11:09
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propagandhigrub-install /dev/hdxX11:09
CicakmanTiMiDo: thx... but i want to installl j2ee sdk, not j2se sdk... and the instructions there does not work for me11:09
No1VikingTiMiDo: Seems to work now!! :)11:09
NsOmNiAcsudo fdisk /dev/hdb111:09
propagandhialso ur BIOS has to support USB boot11:09
TiMiDocool No1Viking11:09
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ccookeNsOmNiAc: hmm.11:10
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ccookeNsOmNiAc: okay, get another shell  up, please.11:10
NsOmNiAcgot it11:10
pschulz01propagandhi: Yeah... the machine that I was installing from only has USB FD option, so I couldn't test the install.11:10
NsOmNiAchave 9 up11:10
ccookeNsOmNiAc: I'd like you to type 'sudo fdisk -ls /dev/hdb'11:10
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ccooke!tell NsOmNiAc about paste11:11
No1Vikingthenuke: You are right, I'm not that good at linux.   :)11:11
ccookeNsOmNiAc: and use the paste link ubotu just gave you to give us a link to the result11:11
pschulz01propagandhi: How do I go about  raising this as a possible bug?11:11
Trewasmeh, suspend used to work fine with 5.10 preview version with a ibm a20p laptop, now with breezy upgraded to newest packages it never wakes up after suspend11:11
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NsOmNiAchttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/273211:12
ccookegreat11:13
ormandjwhat command lets me search available packages for a filename?11:13
ormandji need DB.php but i can't figure out which package it's in11:13
ccookeNsOmNiAc: Okay, that looks good.11:13
Zaphod_42Trevas: got the same with an IBM T42 :(11:13
ormandjphp5-pear didn't include it11:13
ccookeNsOmNiAc: Is there any data on the disk yet?11:13
NsOmNiAcnone11:13
ccookeNsOmNiAc: have you used any other commands to make the filesystem?11:13
NsOmNiAcno11:13
bob2ormandj: packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file11:14
ccookeNsOmNiAc: okay. Quick lesson - fdisk is a tool that will carve up bits of the disk and set some features about them11:14
ccookeNsOmNiAc: it makes the partitions, but not the actual filesystem11:14
NsOmNiActhanks again for your time11:14
ormandjbob2: thanks11:14
ccookeNsOmNiAc: to make the filesystem, you use a second tool called mkfs11:14
ccookeNsOmNiAc: so, to make the filesystem, do this:11:14
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NsOmNiAcso mkfs /dev/hdb1 ?11:15
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ccookeNsOmNiAc: sudo mkfs.ext2 -j /dev/hdb111:15
ccookeNsOmNiAc: (this selects the ext2/3 version of mkfs. The -j means it will use ext3 instead of ext2. ext3 is journalled, which makes it much more reliable)11:15
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ccookeNsOmNiAc: that'll output a load of data as it formats the partition11:16
ccookeNsOmNiAc: done?11:16
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NsOmNiAcdone11:16
ccookeNsOmNiAc: good.11:16
NsOmNiAchttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/273311:17
ccookeNsOmNiAc: now,. back to your gedit11:17
NsOmNiAcstill got it open11:17
ccookeNsOmNiAc: without changing anything else, add this line:11:17
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ccookeNsOmNiAc: /dev/sdb1   /media/Music    ext3   defaults   0 011:18
ccookeNsOmNiAc: Okay?11:18
Toma-if my cpu keeps over heating in a room thats quite warm, should i get a new cpu fan or a new case fan?11:18
NsOmNiAcdone11:18
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NsOmNiAcit's sdb instead of hdb ?11:18
pschulz01propagandhi: Thanks.. I'm wandering over to 'ubuntu-devel'11:19
ccookeNsOmNiAc: No, that's me mistyping11:19
ccookeNsOmNiAc: I'm used to scsi, sorry11:19
NsOmNiAcahhh okie11:19
NsOmNiAcheh11:19
NsOmNiAcso hdb111:19
ccookeNsOmNiAc: Okay.11:19
ccookeNsOmNiAc: save and exit11:19
NsOmNiAcupdated11:19
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NsOmNiAcdone11:20
ccookeNsOmNiAc: then, to make it mount the disk, type mount -av11:20
ccookeNsOmNiAc: (the -a means 'mount everything not already mounted, the -v tells it to let you know what it does)11:20
ccookeNsOmNiAc: does it mount the disk?11:20
NsOmNiAc..11:20
NsOmNiAcpaste the results one second11:21
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^bluestone^May I have some help as to why my wireless card (supported linksys wpc11) doesn't show up as a pcmcia device?11:21
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seliniumToma- : Either or both. the case fan will blow out warm air that has built up in the box, the cpu fan will try to cool the chip directly, There is a trade off for noise of course..11:21
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NsOmNiAchttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/273411:21
Toma-mmm11:21
Toma-its a brand new cpu fan, can with the new cpu. does thermal paste do wonders?11:22
p0windahwell it works11:22
seliniumToma-, take a look at www.overclockers.com for hints and tips! :)11:22
Toma-ightio11:22
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Toma-*r11:22
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dcoxhi there11:23
seliniumToma-, thermal paste does make a difference yes, air is a good insulator11:23
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Iggyhow i can update kernel linux 386 in 686?11:23
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bjvwhen submitting a bug report what goes in the box "URL"??11:23
Iggyapt-get install...11:23
NsOmNiAcis it going to show itself as cdrom0 ?11:23
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bjvdo i even need it?11:23
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nomikehi11:24
NsOmNiAcwait11:24
NsOmNiAcnope11:24
NsOmNiAcMusic11:24
Oetzihi11:24
NsOmNiAccool11:24
TiMiDoOetzi, hi11:24
NsOmNiAc34.3 gig free space11:24
nomikeI want to back up my system. I booted from an ubuntu live cd and mounted my filesystems...11:24
p0windahToma-: not sure where in the world you live, but the ambient room temperature can make a big difference too11:24
NsOmNiAcso now that it's in fstab it will mount automatically at boot right ?11:24
Oetzican anyone tell me a good image-batch-conversion tool for linux11:24
Toma-p0windah: australia... im in a little room above the roof. basically surrounded by insulation :(11:25
dcoxanyone know a good MSN client for ubuntu ?11:25
bob2dcox: gaim11:25
nomikeI know i could do "tar cf - | ssh | tar xf - " but I want to preserve the tar file on the target machine...11:25
NsOmNiAcgaim dcox11:25
bob2fsvo good11:25
^bluestone^any way to restart pcmcia?11:25
bjvToma-: with older CPU's i could get away with just polishing the heatsink and proc11:25
dcoxbob2 thanks man!11:25
p0windahToma-: where in aus ? up north or..11:25
bob2nomike: theyn just dump it out on the other end11:25
Toma-south... perth11:25
bjvi dont think elbow grease is enough for modern procs though.11:25
bob2nomike: and extract it later11:25
Toma-bjv: its a sempron 280011:25
bjvdefinitely a case for some kind of heat-compound.11:25
Oetzi^bluestone^: /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart11:25
p0windahToma-: ah ok, well during summer try to either run air. con or keep a window open that has some external shade covering it11:26
bjvmaybe not articsilver, but something.11:26
nomikebob2: how? is there a program which saves standard input to a file?11:26
^bluestone^thanks, Oetzi11:26
NsOmNiAcbugger11:26
NsOmNiAccan't write it11:26
nomikeOr could I use > somehow?11:26
Toma-rightio. thanks!11:26
^bluestone^hang on11:26
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bob2nomike: eh?11:26
ekimusnomike: tar cf tarfile.tar source && scp tarfile.tar remote:11:26
dcoxbob2 oops! didn't mention it should be a command line client11:26
bob2nomike: tar cf - | ssh | cat > blah.tar11:26
p0windahToma-: I used to live in oz too, but whatever your cooling arrangement inside your pc, if your room is hot.... you're just sucking hot air into your machine and blowing it over an already hot heatsink11:26
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bob2dcox: I use bitlbee for that11:26
nomikeekimus: there is not enough local space11:27
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Toma-yeh :(11:27
tessahi11:27
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ekimusnomike: so just preserver the file on the remote machine?11:27
dcoxthanks man ... trying it out!11:27
Toma-so a better cpu fan would be better? rather than a case fan in a hot room?11:27
NsOmNiAcok fixed11:27
nomikebob2: doesn't the > blah.tar get interpreted by the local shell?11:27
nomikeyes11:27
NsOmNiAcsweet thanks so much11:27
^bluestone^nope, still not there under ifconfig11:27
tessai'm currently trying to geht my medion md 6228 scanner to work.11:27
nomikeI want to make a tarfile with the contents of / and store it directly on another server...11:27
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p0windahToma-: get some thermal paste for starters and figure out a way to drop the temp in your room11:28
ekimusnomike: man mkfifo (create a 100 mb fifo, tar to that file, scp that file to remote and save it as a tar archive)11:28
Toma-rightio11:28
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bob2nomike: oh, wait11:28
tessahttp://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=medion&model=md6228&bus=usb says it is supported, there shall be a "sane-genesys" backend but i cannot find a "genesys.conf" in /etc/sane.d/11:28
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bob2nomike: tar cf - | ssh usr@host 'cat > blah.tar'11:28
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Toma-ive got insulation batts about and below the room... maybe i should install an aircon up here :(11:28
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p0windahToma-: I have two windows on different sides of the office here, so I installed an industrial exhaust fan on the hotter side of the room and opened the window on the cooler11:28
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Toma-hehe11:29
p0windahToma-: made a huge difference11:29
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seliniumToma-, Getting a cpu fan that just blasts hot air onto your cpu is not going to help too much.. You really need to look at cooling the ambiant temperature if you can.  :)11:29
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bob2nomike: if you just want to get the data over there, tho, rync is what you want11:29
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Toma-selinium: thanks for repeating p0windah :D11:30
^bluestone^I'm going to try to find some driver (though it's supposed to be supported in the kernel)11:30
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ccookeNsOmNiAc: sorry - still there?11:30
lemics_hi every111:30
NsOmNiAcyeahhhh11:30
NsOmNiAcit's mounted at Music11:30
p0windahToma-: you need to head down to a bunnings and buy some "tubing" :)11:30
NsOmNiAcupdated the permissions on it so I could write it11:30
NsOmNiAcand looks like it's working11:30
ccookeNsOmNiAc: great11:30
Toma-tubing you say?11:30
NsOmNiActhanks again so much for your time11:30
seliniumToma-, Fans are cheap anyway, get both, its cheaper then replacing you cpu! Sorry I missed p0windah post! :)11:31
Toma-stick a tube outside and stick a fan on that? :D11:31
ccookeNsOmNiAc: I was going to suggest a slightly different way, but I was bemeetinged11:31
NsOmNiAcmoving all the files of music over to it now11:31
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ccookeNsOmNiAc: the head sysadmin here has just returned from a month's holiday touring Australia with his band...11:31
NsOmNiAcsomething else I could have done ?11:31
ccookeNsOmNiAc: and was *just a little* behind on events :-)11:31
NsOmNiAcahhh sweet11:31
p0windahToma-: if you enjoy doing the handy man thing, yeah just grab some insulated tubing and vent all that ot air straight out of the room11:31
NsOmNiAca month is a LONG time11:32
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ccookeNsOmNiAc: oh yes.11:32
Comcowhat's the sysadmin's band's name?11:32
ccookeNsOmNiAc: I was amazed that the company let him do it11:32
NsOmNiAcespecially with the way things change11:32
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NsOmNiAcsounds like a bad ass company11:32
Toma-p0windah: should i make an exhaust or intake?11:32
ccookeComco: the Zillions, IIRC11:32
ccookeNsOmNiAc: quite fun to work for.11:32
net08hello everyone, Can you help me with my LTSP?11:32
NsOmNiAcI worked for MSPG for 5 years then Earthlink came along and fucked it all up11:32
NsOmNiAc<3 Mindspring11:33
ccookeNsOmNiAc: ah, earthlink. Yes.11:33
[LethAL] And f this isn't offtopic, I dread to think what it11:33
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[LethAL] is*11:33
No1Vikingccooke: Am running Breezy now!  :-)11:33
p0windahToma-: exhaust is gonna be cheaper. you can get some nice fans with external flaps that seal off when the fan is turned off11:33
[LethAL] if*11:33
ekimus.oO(this all sounds like a part of user friendly)11:33
ccookeNo1Viking: good!11:33
p0windahToma-: plus you wont need to deal with incoming bugs and water :)11:33
ccookeekimus: what?11:33
Toma-mmm11:34
[LethAL] net08, What's your problem?11:34
ekimusccooke: company a is cool but fucked up by company b and the employees are discussing it11:34
ccookeNsOmNiAc: the alternate route to permissions, by the way, would be to creating a directory under /media/Music named after your user, with write permission.11:34
p0windahToma-: I have three machines I stuck up the top of a wooden shelf here, all their PSU pointed at exhaust and stuck a big piece of perspex to guide the air out11:35
net08It does'nt detect my kbd.11:35
NsOmNiAcahhhh I can still do that11:35
ccookeekimus: that's because quite a bit of the setting of UF is based in reality. Hell, that's it's appeal...11:35
ccookeditto dilbert.11:35
p0windahToma-: crude, but very effective11:35
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Toma-cool11:35
NsOmNiAcccooke if I'm the only user does it matter though ?11:35
Toma-literally :O11:35
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ekimusccooke: i know just never thought that i can watch it live :)11:35
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glennhello11:36
lemics_hi11:36
glennhow can i install wine?11:36
[LethAL] net08, Which keyboard?11:36
Toma-i dont have the side panel on my case on aswell. its helping a tad.11:36
[LethAL] !wine11:36
net08ps211:36
glennyes11:36
ccookeNsOmNiAc: not really, no. I just try to suggest the 'cleanest' answer, since I don't know your system :-)11:36
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[LethAL] !tell glenn about wine11:36
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HoxzerIs there any CD player that can be run in fullscreen on gnome11:36
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tessaglenn, via synaptic, search for wine11:37
seliniumToma-, You can buy a portable airconditioner for around 250 that would be the best solution if you can afford it.11:37
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Toma-selinium: no.11:37
p0windahbleh11:37
NsOmNiAchehe ccooke thanks so much for all your patience and hel p11:37
ccookeekimus: Systems administration teaches you to love a good train-wreck. Either that, or you go insane.11:37
glennok11:37
p0windahexpensive to run, and no1 thinks its cool when you show em a portable aircon :)11:37
davroglen: apt-cache search wine, find what you want apt-get install wine, or use synaptic.11:37
ccookeNsOmNiAc: no problem. Sorry I had to vanish.11:37
Toma-i think ill make a duct and see how that does11:37
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NsOmNiAcccooke you pretty much showed me what needed to be done and it's up and running moving files over to it now11:38
NsOmNiAc8-)11:38
p0windahToma-: let me take a snap and I'll show you my office hackery11:38
seliniump0windah, true, but cutting holes and pipes and stuff..11:38
ccookeNsOmNiAc: there's a lot of help in this channel.11:38
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NsOmNiAcI try to help when I can11:38
lemics_nice11:39
`helixcan ayone give me an example for ubuntus multi-universe11:39
NsOmNiAc<3 Ubuntu11:39
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bozzuhow can i install jdk on breezy?11:39
`helixi mean for multivese11:39
NsOmNiAcI have been using FreeBSD for so long .. when I was using linux it was Debian ... tried Ubuntu out and I'm in love11:39
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lemics_lol i must say they did a great job w ubuntu11:39
[LethAL] bozzu, I've seen it in Synaptic...11:39
topylii guess many ubuntu users come from debian11:40
boxerboy29ubuntu has that about it it kinda reels you in11:40
glennafter i marked the wine what should i do? thank u so mch11:40
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ccookeboxerboy29: It does its best to be transparent. That's *important*11:40
[LethAL] glenn, Click apply ;)11:40
NsOmNiAcno doubt11:40
boxerboy29i have sarge running on other pc and breezy ont his one i have to say breezy is 99% better11:40
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seliniumToma-, have a look around the overclockers site, the give different priced solutions, including vents that may be less cost/hassle in the long run. http://overclockers.com/articles1256/11:41
lemics_i'm now studying LPI and ubuntu is perfect for it11:41
bozzu[LethAL] , i installed it via synaptic on hoary but i can find it on breezy repositories11:41
davroconsole, sudo apt-get install wine  just seems easier.11:41
ccookeLPI?11:41
[LethAL] bozzu, repos...11:41
lemics_some certificate shit but good www.lpi.org11:41
KarnivoreI really want to use Ubuntu but its a no go with a powerbook which is really a shame11:41
boxerboy29will wine run any .exe files? or just certain ones?11:42
[LethAL] bozzu, The Universe one, that is11:42
bob2Karnivore: ?11:42
Toma-selinium: i need the room to be cooler, not the cpu11:42
[LethAL] boxerboy29, It will try to run any11:42
davroLinux Professional Institute, another way of getting knowledge by proxy of paper11:42
boxerboy29lol @ try11:42
Karnivorethe touchpad doesnt work with the 12"11:42
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Toma-maybe i should get into some liquid cooling11:42
glennwhen i click apply there is an error "some of the packages could not be retrieved from server11:42
markmarkboxerboy29: some. it's a bit hit and miss11:42
bjvboxerboy29: i have found that a very low % of .exe that were authored in Visual Basic will run11:42
bjvvb is trash.11:43
seliniumToma-, good luck it. :)11:43
[LethAL] +1 bjv11:43
seliniumToma-, like lager! :)11:43
bob2Karnivore: is there a bug report about it?11:43
bozzu[LethAL] , no it's on backports. but i don't know if it's a good idea to mix breezy with hoary-backports....11:43
[LethAL] bozzu, On breezy, it's in universe. I'm looking at it now11:43
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Karnivoreno bob2 I believe I read it on the site, I couldnt believe it so I booted a LiveCD, all loaded fine but couldnt use the cursor11:44
bozzu[LethAL] , what is package name?11:44
[LethAL] bozzu, Umm... wine11:45
[LethAL] ;)11:45
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bob2Karnivore: if there isn't a bug report on bugzilla.ubuntu.com, it may get forgotten11:45
Karnivoredamn11:45
chulohola11:45
[LethAL] !es11:46
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:46
KarnivoreI'll have to write one11:46
chulothx11:46
bozzu[LethAL] , ?? :)11:46
boxerboy29the bot speaks more than english?11:46
boxerboy29lol11:46
[LethAL] bozzu, My wireless dropped, did you say anything after I said ";)"?11:46
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[LethAL] !tell boxerboy29 about de11:47
[LethAL] !tell boxerboy29 about nl11:47
[LethAL] !tell boxerboy29 about fr11:47
[LethAL] ;)11:47
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bozzu[LethAL] , i said "??". i'm looking for jdk...11:47
boxerboy29lol11:47
[LethAL] bozzu, I was confusing you with the guy who wanted help with Wine... my bad :P11:48
[LethAL] bozzu, free-java-dsk11:48
[LethAL] sdk*11:48
bozzu[LethAL] , anyway wine is in universe, you were right :)11:48
[LethAL] :P11:48
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bozzuthat's not the sun one, but it will be ok. thanks!11:49
boxerboy29what is a "similar" distro to ubuntu not including kubuntu or debian? i can just see it now there is none but thought id ask11:49
[LethAL] :)11:49
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[LethAL] boxerboy29, In which way?11:49
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p0windahhttp://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=00001.21.jpg and http://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=00002.10.jpg <- my sweet cooling solution for hot hong kong nights :)11:49
p0windahwork safe and ubuntu friendly11:50
propagandhibozzu: why dont u just download it from java.sun.com and install it??11:50
boxerboy29im duel booting debian and ubuntu now and debian not good on this pc so i put it on a different one a distro that has kde and or gnome and will see ubuntu so i dont have to reinstall it11:50
bozzupropagandhi: i used to install it via synaptic on hoary, so i was looking for the same thing here on breezy. but maybe i'll do in that way11:51
boxerboy29im looking for an os that has kdevelop mainly11:51
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propagandhibozzu: ok, but i have found the jdk is not that hard to install and use, plus at least you know its the official11:52
HoxzerIs it possible to setup somehow any software to total full screen in gnome?11:52
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NsOmNiAcbrb11:52
HoxzerBecouse I would like to setup grip like that11:52
Hoxzermaybe I should just use diffrend  desktop in htpc11:53
topyliHoxzer: i think it's ctrl-return by default11:53
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topyliHoxzer: but i don't know how to set it up permanently11:53
ozahirhi11:53
ubuntuhow to install gyach?11:53
ozahiri have a problem instaling the extrarepositories, there's something wrong with the backdoors?11:54
boxerboy29anyone used or use x\os 4?11:54
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HoxzerTopyli: hmmm.....return? :D11:55
ozahirhttp://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages11:55
ozahir  404 Not Found11:55
Hoxzerhow does it look?11:55
topyliHoxzer: well, return, enter, as you wish :)11:55
boxerboy29mirror max backports have been shut down11:55
poningruozahir: use the official ones11:55
poningru!backports11:55
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports11:55
HoxzerCtrl-enter?11:56
Hoxzereh...11:56
ozahirthx11:56
topyliHoxzer: i seem to remember so. i've set it to ctrl-alt-enter though11:56
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topyliHoxzer: so i can't be sure what it was before11:56
boxerboy29is breezy still using hoary backports or did we get our own yet?11:56
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bob2boxerboy29: dude11:56
topylihehe11:56
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bob2boxerboy29: how could their *possibly* be breezy backports?11:57
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poningrurofl11:57
bob2boxerboy29: there's nothing for the backports people to copy code from yet11:57
[LethAL] lmao11:57
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boxerboy29ive seen them but they were unofficail11:57
bob2no11:57
topyliboxerboy29: it was surely a hallucination11:57
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Chasehay, does anyone know how i can get usbstorage ( or really anyother kernel module) from loading when i plug a device in?11:58
HoxzerLOL11:58
HoxzerI pressed ctrl+alt+backspace11:58
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ozahir:)11:58
Hoxzerso what button is :D return11:58
[LethAL] Heh11:58
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boxerboy29deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted11:58
[LethAL] Hoxzer, The one below backspace :P11:58
boxerboy29thats not me seeing things11:58
boxerboy29thats in the breezy guide11:59
ProN00bwhats ctrl+alt+backspace do ?11:59
HoxzerWell it doesn't work11:59
bob2"breezy guide"?11:59
bob2ProN00b: kill X11:59
boxerboy29but still unoffical11:59
bob2boxerboy29: also, note that that repository does not actually exist11:59
boxerboy29bob2: ur help launcher has breezy guide11:59
ProN00bkill x ?11:59
ProN00bcool11:59
[LethAL] boxerboy29, It's not there... foo11:59
[LethAL] boxerboy29 is breezy still using hoary backports or did we get our own yet?11:59
bob2boxerboy29: you putting things in your sources.list != things existing11:59
[LethAL] Argh11:59
topyliHoxzer: i think more modern people than me usually call it the Enter key i guess :)11:59
[LethAL] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/11:59
[LethAL] ^^ No breezy backports12:00
boxerboy29i have hosry in my sources list12:00
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HoxzerTopyli: yeah, I would have understood that better :P12:00
bob2boxerboy29: well, whatever documentation told you they exist is misleading you12:00
boxerboy29hoary*12:00
topyliHoxzer: too much emacs manuals :)12:00
boxerboy29its from the life guard looking float looking icon12:00
bob2ok, it's still wrong12:01
boxerboy29ty thats what i wanted to know12:01
topyli"to enter full screen mode in gnome, press Meta-Control-RET"12:01
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ProN00bpress what ?12:03
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[LethAL] ProN00b, IIRC, Meta == Alt12:03
ZBlachgoof morning12:03
Jehfvelanyone been able to solve the problem with xorg/gnome eating the cpu (nvida card) ?12:03
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[LethAL] goof mornign to you too12:03
topyliProN00b: that would be alt-ctrl-enter12:03
topyliobviously :)12:03
ZBlachits too early for me12:04
[LethAL] Hehe12:04
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[LethAL] Well I should be in school :P12:04
ZBlachI'm struggling to associate my wireless card with my router.12:04
ZBlachI should be asleep12:04
ProN00bJehfvel, thats normal behavior12:04
topylii should be at the bar12:04
topylisoon will too :)12:04
[LethAL] ZBlach, more info?12:04
[LethAL] WEP, WPA, Chipsets?12:04
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JehfvelProN00b: hehe, then ubuntu is finished for me12:04
guillem101Is it better to wait to Breezy be released or to upgrade just now?12:05
ZBlachsure. uh.. WEP, using the Broadcom (can't remember) chipset12:05
ZBlach430112:05
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ZBlachits a linksys wmp11v2.7 wireless card, and it works wonders in win12:05
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bob2ZBlach: does it work with WEP disabled?12:05
[LethAL] Oh...12:05
bob2ZBlach: does it work if you set it up statically withou DHCP?12:06
[LethAL] Broadcom routers are fine, the cards aren't12:06
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ZBlachbob2, nope. tried that too. neither DHCP nor static IP work for me12:06
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[LethAL] ZBlach, but you see the adapter in sysem-config-networking?12:06
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[LethAL] network-admin even12:06
ZBlachi'm running breezy 09/0912:06
ccookeProN00b: normal behaviour? are you sure?12:06
ZBlachnetwork admin reports no errors12:06
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ZBlachand i can sudo iwlist wlan0 scan for it12:07
poningruJehfvel: you sure its that combo?12:07
bob2ZBlach: with WEP disabled?12:07
ZBlachbob2, tried both with no success12:07
Jehfvelponingru: what ?12:07
ZBlachplus, the computer i'm on now is wireless, so i'll lose my connection with changes there12:07
[LethAL] ZBlach, do iwconfig and look at the Link quality...12:07
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poningruJehfvel: do you have powernowd or respective tech installed?12:07
bob2ZBlach: sounds like you need tot talk to the ndiswrapper people12:07
ProN00bccooke, its 15% of my ram and cpu12:07
Jehfvelponingru: i uninstalled it12:07
ZBlachiwconfig reports 100/100 connection to an access point of all zeroes12:08
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ccookeProN00b: ah, okay. that's not so bad.12:08
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[LethAL] ZBlach, sounds like you're cards ad-hoc'ing with itself12:08
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[LethAL] card's*12:08
ccookeProN00b: I suspect the complaint was about something more than that, though12:08
ProN00bhumm12:09
ZBlach[LethAL] , mode: managed. there's ususally my error with a failure of association with AP12:09
ProN00bJehfvel, how much does it eat on your system ?12:09
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[LethAL] ZBlach, if you have your Router's MAC address (Probably on the router) tr sudo iwconfig <mac>12:10
[LethAL] With colons12:10
JehfvelProN00b: not much right now, but firefox i really slow, and if i start gedit and grab the lower corner and drags it around, 100%12:10
ZBlachtried that. no errors given, but as soon as i iwconfig wlan0 again, there's no difference12:10
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ZBlachi wish i could provide more detail, sorry12:10
[LethAL] does ifconfig wlan0 give you and IP?12:11
[LethAL] an*12:11
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mirakI downloaded a gnome themes, and installed it with the theme manager but it doesn't appear in the list, what am I doing wrong ? can this be a version problem ?12:11
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ProN00bwell, i can't resize gedit smoothly too, but nothing freezes, i didn't check the cpu12:12
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ProN00bdid you install nvidia drivers ?12:12
topyliccooke: for comparison, X eats 4% of my 900Mhz CPu and about 110M of RAM12:12
topyli110M? good grief12:12
JehfvelProN00b: yes, tried the option renderaccel too, but then X locks up when scrolling with mousewheel in firefox12:13
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ZBlach[LethAL] , i'm using static IP, so yeah, it does. but what should the BCast IP be?12:13
ccooketopyli: X varies in cpu load quite a bit, though12:14
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[LethAL] Well... the same as your IP with 255 at the end e.g. 192.168.1.25512:14
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topyliccooke: yeah, i guess clients delegate some of the load to X too12:14
ZBlachi guess the number is correct then12:14
[LethAL] ZBlach, pm me your whole iwconfig wlan0 maybe?12:15
ZBlachhang on, i'mma find my mem key12:15
_Rappy_to big happenings on Oct 13th ;D12:16
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poningruW00T Oct 1312:16
p0windaha game ?12:16
topyli_Rappy_: they will release breezy TWICE?12:17
_Rappy_Twice?12:17
topyliyou said two big happenings :)12:17
_Rappy_ah, hehe :) No, I'm 1/4 to becomming 100 years old then ;D12:17
topylicongratulations _Rappy_12:18
p0windaha believer in potentiality...12:18
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^bluestone^thanks people, 'night12:18
_Rappy_p0windah, if we don't got optimism, what are we left with?12:18
helloworldhello everyone12:19
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helloworldCan someone help me with my LTSP setup?12:19
ProN00bwhy are most linux gui programs just excuses for not having a equivalent software to windows stuff ?12:19
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p0windahProN00b: you havent used enough linux programs ?12:20
Jehfvelgreat, opened gedit, and just started typing random junk, and when gedit started scrolling to the right, cpu usage got up to 99%12:20
topyliProN00b: you haven't made them better yet12:20
poningruProN00b: seriously there are a few that are like that but most are individual apps that I would not classify in that category12:20
ProN00bi have uses main ones for chatting, gaim and xchat, and they are mere excuses for trillian and mirc12:20
ProN00balso the xmmp thingy that even calls itself a winamp clone12:21
poningruProN00b: xchat and gaim are def not copies of trillian or especially mirc12:21
p0windahpsi stands apart in the IM crown12:21
topyliProN00b: file some wishlist and usability bugs12:21
poningruProN00b: if anything trillian copied tones of stuff from gaim12:21
ProN00blol12:21
poningruProN00b: I have to agree about the last statement though12:22
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topyliProN00b: although i don't think your xchat patches will be accepted if they make it more like mirc12:22
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p0windahbesides, I think you need to understand many GUI apps you blanketly refer to probably aim further than just linux12:22
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ProN00btrillian might have used some of the protocol code from gaim in the beginning (i think there was proof ^^), but its still better12:22
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ProN00bwhat last statement, poningru ?12:23
TrashcanIs that illegal under GNU?12:23
p0windahTrashcan: sure is12:23
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Trashcanouch12:23
poningru also the xmmp thingy that even calls itself a winamp clone12:23
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p0windahTrashcan: the RIAAA can sue you12:23
Trashcanhe12:23
Trashcanh12:23
ProN00blawl12:23
Trashcanthat would suck12:23
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Trashcangetting sued over stealing free stuff12:23
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wickedpuppyponingru, its xmms ...12:23
ProN00bgaim got to get skins ^^12:23
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poningruwickedpuppy: thats a quote from ProN00b12:23
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topyliaww skins12:24
ProN00band xchat smaller buttons12:24
kemikskiiinz :|12:24
p0windahbut seriously ProN00b,..12:24
doubleukayhmm has anyone had problems with kernel modules aliases not workign?12:24
wickedpuppyponingru, and ProN00b are you two here to complain about linux ?? may i suggest #ubuntu-offtopic ?12:24
poningruguys this is going in the flame ware direction12:24
kemikgaim need to get proper filetransfer support for MSN, ICQ etc...12:24
topyliProN00b: i've just replaced all my skinned programs with something decent and you had to remind me of those horrible UIs12:24
topyli:)12:24
p0windahponingru: doubtless, no1 has said anything yet. its all troll12:24
poningruwickedpuppy: actually defending but I agree12:24
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janimoapt-pinning question: is there really no way to pin packages matching a wildcard to a version? I had to pin all startinh with openoffice2.org- manually12:25
doubleukayexcept that trillians IRC is hopelessly pathetic in version 3 --> [03/10 20:20]  ProN00b: i have uses main ones for chatting, gaim and xchat, and they are mere excuses for trillian and mirc12:25
ProN00bkemik, unpossible, no one can do that ^^12:25
Myrttibitlbee12:25
TrashcanPersonally I prefer xchat over mIRC12:25
kemikProN00b:  what ? miranda has done so12:25
Trashcanjust because gnome is prettier :)12:25
poningrudoubleukay: how do you mean?12:25
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poningruguys seriously this is getting offtopic pretty fast there is artwork page for this12:26
poningruerr channel12:26
Trashcanaye12:26
ProN00bkemik, miranda for linux ?12:26
kbrookslol.12:26
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doubleukayponingru, to start with.. it doesn't have "change nick if nick's in use" feature. so i never get reconnected back to any server after my adsl drops..12:26
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kemikProN00b:  no, for windows.... take this to #ubuntu-offtopic12:26
TiMiDoubuntu the best,12:26
doubleukaythere also isn't any frontend to channel management :(12:26
p0windahOMG!12:27
p0windahhow can we ever beat windows when it has CHANNEL MANAGEMENT TECHNOLOGY?!12:27
TiMiDop0windah, windows sucks a$$12:27
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doubleukayuhh?12:27
doubleukayread in context.12:27
p0windahnot that it was ever really a conversation anyway12:27
ProN00bdoubleukay, trillian is not for irc, but there are containers which are actually quite good for channel management12:27
wickedpuppyp0windah, ... pls ... we are not into beating windows or anyone ... this is not the object of GNU or Linux12:27
davrowhat is this windows you talk of ?12:28
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JhairI get my daily work done without "channel management technology". What is that?12:28
TiMiDowindows will rock until they sell the sources codes like linux does for a normal priced and also free12:28
p0windahJhair: thats what they want you to think12:28
doubleukayProN00b, ahh i mean like viewing bans, setting modes, etc. but yes, containers rock.12:28
Jhairuh?12:28
ProN00boh12:28
topyliwhenever i complain about gaim's irc, people use this same comment: "it's not for irc". it could pretty easily be though if we wanted :(12:28
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ProN00bwell, gaim can do irc too, and i imagine no one uses it for similar reasons12:29
topyliProN00b: it does, i can see the proof right now12:29
p0windahProN00b complained that linux guis are clones of windows apps, then provided a lame list of a handful of IM programs, then somehow that was taken as the base for the discussion, which morphed into usability issues for irc clients and channel management12:29
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topyliProN00b: but you can't hide channel messages for example, and i'd like a bit more of the basic commands in menus, etc.12:30
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ProN00bp0windah, provide examples for good linux gui apps12:30
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p0windahwell I think gnome is probably a glaring one, freemind is another nice one12:31
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topyliProN00b: nethack!12:31
p0windahbut as I mentioned earlier, linux gui is a misnomer12:31
ProN00bgnome is a wm...12:31
topylinope12:31
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JhairProN00b: provide examples for good windows applications (but don't do it here, go to #windows for that)12:31
UltrAgimp has a pretty good gui12:31
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wickedpuppysorry to ask but anyone here GUI programmer?? or are all these opinions about GUIs nothing more than random rants ??12:32
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bob2topyli: you're welcome to submit patches...12:32
davroProN00B: try Blender, im sure you are you a troll12:32
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p0windahProN00b: freemind is something I use on a daily basis12:32
topylibob2: yeah, no use whining12:32
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ProN00bi am checking freemind, is it a mindmapping software, p0windah ?12:32
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p0windahProN00b: although its not strictly linux, but then not many x apps on linux are12:33
topyliProN00b: yes, nice but java12:33
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ProN00bjava makes babies cry12:33
kemikwickedpuppy:  would it matter if someone was a GUI programmer?12:33
[LethAL] No, that's lava :D12:33
kemikwickedpuppy:  people are still entitled to their opinions12:33
topyliProN00b: actually it's just the look of java apps i don't like. not very gnome-y :)12:33
doubleukayso..12:33
doubleukayhas anyone had problems with kernel modules aliases not workign?12:34
p0windahtopyli: you see I dont like that sir12:34
[LethAL] topyli, Azureus is a java app :P12:34
ProN00bi can say i am a gui programmer, i do visual basic ^^12:34
poningrurofl12:34
[LethAL] ProN00b, that explains the N00b part of your name...12:34
davroProN00B: Visual What12:34
p0windahtopyli: I'd have to insist it be "gnomish", rather than gnome-y12:34
doubleukayin /etc/modules.conf: alias wlan0 prism2_usb12:34
Trashcanlmao pron00b12:34
doubleukay# modprobe wlan012:34
doubleukayFATAL: Module wlan0 not found.12:34
ProN00bflame on teh me ^^12:34
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wickedpuppylol .. if you says so kemik .. but really can i talk about US president if i am not american ??12:34
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davroFlame on12:34
topyli[LethAL] : yes it is. i think i saw it once and they made it look very gtk12:34
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[LethAL] topyli, GTK 212:35
topyliyes12:35
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p0windahits getting slippery boys!12:35
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Trashcan:p12:35
p0windahsomeone mentioned americans..12:35
p0windahand GUI's12:35
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JhairProN00b: now your rants against linux do have more weight bearing in mind your visual basic experience sigh12:35
p0windahsomeone is surely going to start ranting about vi next12:35
Trashcanlol jhair12:35
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Trashcanwell played12:35
kemikwickedpuppy:  why couldnt you ?12:35
davroGUI of mass destruction12:35
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kemikwickedpuppy:  i have opinions about the US president, and i'm not american12:36
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TrashcanVB card played - point. set. match. game.12:36
kemikwickedpuppy:  i also have opinions on alot of GUIs even tho im not involved in the specific projects12:36
ProN00bi am actually ranting against the people making gaim for just making something with the linux needs it attitude, Jhair12:36
Seveasahem, guys, please do off-topic discussins in #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this a support channel12:36
p0windahwickedpuppy: if pushed, he'll have an opinion on your genitals too12:36
kemikp0windah:  ViM > EMACS!!! ;)12:37
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ProN00blolz12:37
p0windahso anyone here need help with ubuntu ?12:37
[LethAL] kemcco_home, s/EMACS!!!/* :P12:37
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Jhairwell the point is: GUIs are done to fullfill requirements of _users_, so the opinions from users are relevant I think12:37
[LethAL] kemik aven12:37
UltrAyes i can here to try and help people :D12:37
SeveasJhair, [LethAL]  ...12:37
UltrAnot just read a GUI flame war12:37
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fullybadhallo12:38
Seveashi12:38
p0windahfullybad: how can be serve you today ?12:38
p0windahcan we...12:38
poningrunight guys12:38
fullybadcan someone help12:38
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poningru_sleeprofl12:38
Seveasfullybad, maybe, if you see how we might help you12:38
propagandhifullybad: for a small fee12:38
UltrAfullybad: just tell us what :D12:39
[LethAL] !helpme12:39
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.12:39
fullybadI have a probleme with my Card under >ubutu12:39
elc3hi guys! i'm new in using ubuntu, and i want to share some resources to other computers can anyone help me please12:39
propagandhicard - now thats explanatory12:39
[LethAL] Card? Wireless? Graphics? Sound?12:39
fullybadI have two card12:39
p0windahfullybad: which one ?12:39
Seveaswhat kind of card, what is the problem?12:39
UltrAfullybad: which card12:39
bob2elc3: "resources"?12:39
Trashcanlol12:39
christian-I've got the ace of spades!12:39
p0windahthis is like an episode of the muppets :)12:39
Trashcan:p12:39
fullybadand when I insert the second one i can not have internet anymore12:39
kemikif one asks the questions, maybe that's sufficient ?12:39
poningru_sleepit really is12:39
UltrAelc3: what os is the other computer running?12:39
elc3yes resources like files and printers12:39
propagandhifullybad: whats your native language?12:39
Trashcanelc3: you referring to shared folders?12:39
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Trashcanelc: you want to share with windows?12:40
fullybadfrench12:40
elc3yes12:40
UltrAelc3: what os is the other computer running?12:40
Seveasfullybad, so I assume you mean network cards12:40
elc3thanks12:40
fullybadyes12:40
fullybadI do12:40
elc3with windows and ubuntu12:40
UltrAuse samba12:40
p0windahfullybad: did it ever work in ubuntu, your network card ?12:40
poningru_sleep!tell elc3 about samba12:40
elc3ubuntu and windows12:40
UltrAelc3: you need samba12:40
Seveasok, what is your objective with having two cards, and how did you configure it now?12:40
elc3what's samba?12:40
wickedpuppyfullybad, allez #ubuntu-fr pour aider svp12:40
fullybadI have it yes12:40
UltrAponingru_sleep: damn bot :D12:40
CirroXelc3 interface Linux <> windows12:40
Seveaselc3, it's an implementation of the windows filesharing stuff12:41
TrashcanHey, I have 3 cards :p12:41
UltrAponingru_sleep: stole my job12:41
Jhairelc3: maybe this book can help: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/ it's free12:41
elc3can anyone tell me how to use or install samba in ubuntu12:41
Trashcanelc3: do you know what your workgroup is?12:41
UltrAsudo apt-get install samba12:41
UltrA:D12:41
elc3thanks seveas for the tip last day12:41
Seveaselc3, install the samba and swat packages12:41
fullybadbut the probleme is that the second card insertion drop out my net connection12:41
poningru_sleepelc3: basically a method/network file system for sharing resources between windows and linux12:41
Blissexelc3: for Samba help, there are quite a few other tutorials here: http://WWW.Samba.org/12:41
UltrAelc3: sudo apt-get install samba swat12:41
poningru_sleepelc3: dude go to that page ubotu showed you12:41
Seveaselc3, enable swat (sudo update-inetd --enable swat)12:41
ProN00bsamba makes the windows grim eat your cookies12:41
Blissexelc3: and as Seveas says, install those packages, and SWAT is a package that helps you configure Samba easily.12:42
fullybadI wann share internet resources12:42
Seveaselc3, then set a root password and use that to login to swat (http://localhost:901/12:42
fullybadwith shorewall12:42
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Jhairhm. is smbumount deprecated? I can only umount samba shares with umount and not with smbumount...12:42
elc3one at a time please12:42
elc3so what's the first thing that i'm going to do?12:42
Blissexfullybad: Shorewall is a package that _prevents_ the sharing of resources :-)12:42
Seveasfullybad, ok, I don't know how shorewall does that, but firestarter has a one-click solution12:42
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p0windahjhair: whats wrong with mount and umount ?12:42
Blissexelc3: as Seveas says...12:42
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UltrAJhair: the that would make sense no?12:43
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LootBeeris ubuntu better than slackware?12:43
wickedpuppyoh no ... not another flamewar12:43
fullybadthe probleme is not shorewall but the card12:43
UltrALootBeer: in some ways12:43
SeveasLootBeer, of course12:43
propagandhiLootBeer: thats a matter of opinion12:43
florianubuntu is the best12:43
BlissexJhair: once a resource has been mounted to a mountpoint, unmounting it is the same. It is _mounting_ that may require extra parameters.12:43
LootBeerwhys ubuntu better?12:43
UltrALootBeer: Arch is better then slackware12:43
LootBeertell me12:43
fullybadwith the second card my first one cannot anymore get the net12:43
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florianit works out of the box12:44
SeveasLootBeer, as propagandhi said, it's a matter of opinion12:44
p0windahso just KB him already12:44
UltrALootBeer: dunno ... Sninyer :D12:44
UltrALootBeer: dunno ... Shinyer :D12:44
BlissexLootBeer: it is a difficult discussion. But you can just try it with the Ubuntu LiveCD and make your own opinion of it.12:44
Seveasthe way ubuntu works however is prefered over slackware by lots of people12:44
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fullybadhow can I solve it12:44
propagandhiLootBeer: one advantage is if you're into always having access to the latest packages - u can do so12:44
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Ingenuanyone can tell me how to mount a hdd with the liveCD ? (tried the mkdir /mnt/hd but I don't have permission it seems)12:44
fullybadis there something to do12:44
propagandhislackware is slower to release packages12:44
JhairBlissex: oh I see now in the smbmount manpage that "for root it is not necessary to use smbmount"12:44
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Jhairso that's clear now.12:44
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SeveasIngenu, use sudo in appropriate places12:44
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Jhairs/smbmount/smbumount12:45
Seveasfullybad, well, you need to setup the cards first befre you can setup the sharing12:45
UltrALootBeer: I've used every distro you can name and I like ubuntu and gentoo the best12:45
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IngenuSeveas, what appropriate place ?12:45
BlissexJhair: it is not _necessary_ to use 'smbmount', but it is unnecessary to use 'smbumount'....12:45
propagandhiLootBeer: I have also used just about all - and i am back to ubuntu12:45
Seveaslike sudo mkdir and sudo mount12:45
p0windahUltrA: what about redflag ?12:45
Ingenuoh ok12:45
wickedpuppylol12:45
Trashcanuse sudo for anything that needs root privs12:45
propagandhiLootBeer: it can be as advanced or as simple as you like it to be12:45
BlissexJhair: the mounting and unmounting is actually done in any case by the relative system calls.12:45
Ingenuany shortcut to move from one workspace to another (I don't like clicking) ?12:46
fullybadyes of course but why only the presence of the second card drop the net ?12:46
BlissexJhair: 'smbmount' and 'mount' etc. are just slightly different ways to invoke those system calls.12:46
UltrAp0windah: I said nothing about redflag?12:46
TrashcanDoes anyone know of a way to get tabs in xchat to stack?12:46
LootBeerpropagandhi>how so?12:46
Trashcanso I can have two layers instead of one long list12:46
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p0windahIngenu: you need to go setup some shortcuts, by default they are empty12:46
LootBeerit uses apt-get?12:46
fullybadthe what I don't anderstand12:46
JhairBlissex: yes, you are right, I see that now in the man page, it uses the -t smbfs option for mount12:46
p0windahUltrA: you said any linux distro we could name12:46
fullybadunderstand12:46
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UltrAp0windah: lol... crap12:46
ProN00bTrashcan, let me know if you find a solution12:46
UltrAp0windah: what's there site?12:46
BlissexJhair: it is not quite that either...12:46
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ProN00b(another example of bad gui ^^)12:47
deFryskTrashcan, mousewheel over desktopswitcher12:47
propagandhiLootBeer: you can use apt-get or Synaptic package manager to install the basics, you could also compile software, depends on how far you want to take it. i personally have nothing that i want that is unattainable12:47
fullybadit work well under Kanotix and suse why not ubutu ?12:47
p0windahUltrA: google too good for you or something as well ?12:47
Trashcanlol deFrysk12:47
UltrAp0windah: I was just doing that12:47
fullybadis there something special to do ?12:47
BlissexJhair: normally a 'mount' operation only requires three arguments: the type of filesystem, what to mount and where.12:47
Kyynara_Lately I've been having this problem, that while srufing with Firefox, my comp "freezez" nothing (or atleast I haven't found anything) can be done. Does anyone have any suggestions about fixing this problem?12:47
LootBeerwhats the smalles /lightest linux distro on this planet?12:47
deFryskTrashcan, lol ? why ?12:47
BlissexJhair: but for some filesystems, like 'smbfs', an extra list of arguments is possible or required.12:47
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SeveasLootBeer, probably damn small linux12:47
p0windahLootBeer: define lightest12:47
[LethAL] LootBeer, DamnSmallLinux maybe :P12:48
TrashcandeFrysk: that's not exactly what i asked :p12:48
propagandhiLootBeer: distros like pocket linux, puppy, damn small, peanut etc12:48
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ProN00bcan you somehow install a kernel and copy a bash to it and run it ?12:48
UltrAp0windah: Are you recommending redflag or just telling me it's one i havent tried?12:48
LootBeeras in... least amount on space needed to install it12:48
propagandhiLootBeer: http://www.distrowatch.com12:48
deFryskTrashcan, you did not want to clivk you said12:48
deFryskclick12:48
p0windahp0windah: you said you'd tried any distro we could name; so have you tried it ?12:48
davroNutOS, DSL, FeatherLinux.12:48
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deFryskTrashcan, and you dont have to12:48
Trashcanwhen did I say that :\12:48
BlissexJhair: so 'smbmount' was written to create and pass that extra list of options for the 'smbfs' filesystem. Eventually 'mount' was modified to do the same (or to invoke 'smbmount' to do it).12:48
UltrAp0windah: no12:48
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TrashcanI asked if you could stack the channel tabs in xchat12:48
Ingenup0windah, thx works nicely12:49
kbrooksstack?12:49
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element_hey what folder are all the default packages kept in?12:49
Trashcaninstead of having them all listed on the bottom12:49
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fullybadHowto two cards under ubutu .......can someone help me12:49
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Trashcanhave like, two layers of tabs12:49
UltrAp0windah: I was talking to LootBeer who appeared to be fairly new :D12:49
Trashcanon top of eachother12:49
net08/var/apt/cache12:49
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p0windahUltrA: I cant trust you anymore12:49
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UltrAp0windah: Ok... I'll go with that12:49
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deFryskTrashcan, I seem to have misread something somewhere ;p12:50
Trashcanhehe12:50
Ingenumounting with sudo doesn't help that much since I can't access the drive from any GUI app :(12:50
kbrooksuse the preferences, Trashcan12:50
JhairBlissex: I see. I read now smbmount is indeed a daemon. This is a further difference between mount and smbmount am I right?12:50
Ingenuhow do I give me rights ?12:50
UltrAp0windah: I was reffering to te biggest distros12:50
fullybadwithout configure my second card the the eth0 drop out ----- why?12:50
wickedpuppyIngenu, sudo ...12:50
Ingenu(did use linux a long time ago, forgot almost everything)12:50
[LethAL] !tell Ingenu about chown12:50
p0windahUltrA: so now you're not a liar, you're stupid ?12:50
[LethAL] !tell Ingenu about chmod12:50
Ingenuchmod that's it :)12:50
[LethAL] :P12:51
UltrAp0windah: Ok just drop it12:51
p0windahUltrA: at some point one of us is going to have to end this silliness12:51
UltrAp0windah: I knew someone would flame me for it in 10 seconds12:51
element_can someone pls tell me what folder the default packages (synaptic) are kept in..12:51
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BlissexJhair: ah oops, what I wrote above as to 'smbmount' is actually about 'smbmnt'. 'smbmount' does a few extra things that I think are not really necessary, like the dmon thing.12:51
propagandhielement_: do you mean where it stores downloaded packages???12:52
UltrAubotu: tell me about life the universe and everything12:52
kbrooksi just gave it 012:52
bozzuwhat is needed to view .mov files on totem?12:52
kbrooksUltrA, do not play with the bot12:52
floriangstreamer-plugins12:52
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davroUltra: did you mean universe and multiverse12:53
fullybadhi Seveas are U still there ?12:53
ColonelKernelcan anyone help me with ACM codec and linux12:53
ColonelKernelits crashing my mplayer12:53
UltrAdavro: hard choice12:53
element_propgandhi..12:53
element_yes12:53
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BlissexColonelKernel: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask more detailed questions...12:53
JhairBlissex: allright... smbmount, smbmnt that actually can lead to confussion :)12:53
ZBlachhrm. I can connect to sites using IP addresses, but not names. how can i fix this?12:53
davroUltra: ? furry muff12:53
[LethAL] ZBlach, as I said, DNS servers12:54
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p0windahZBlach: you need to find out from your isp what your DNS servers are12:54
TrashcanZBlanch: are you on a router?12:54
florianyou need a dns-server in resolv.conf12:54
ColonelKernelBlissex,theres nothing more I can say - Im trying to play a video that uses the acm codec and my player crashes with signal 1112:54
propagandhielement_: /var/cache/apt/12:54
ZBlachyup, on a router12:54
ColonelKernelMPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio12:54
Trashcanis it 192.168.1.1?12:54
Trashcanor something else12:54
[LethAL] Trashcan, it seems not to have a DNS server12:54
Trashcanwhatever it is, you need to set your DNS server to your router's local address12:54
Trashcanahhh12:54
Shin_Goukihi!, if i install ubuntu , and type therefore :"server" do i have then a gcc & a MC also on my system??12:54
Trashcanthat's weird :\12:54
BlissexColonelKernel: sometimes but not always that can be a hardware issue. Signal 11 usually brings bad luck.12:54
propagandhielement_: /var/cache/apt/archives i mean12:55
p0windahwhat happens if the router doesnt have a proxy dns server ?12:55
kbrooksShin_Gouki, type this in where?12:55
[LethAL] Trashcan, "...and now that i remove it from DNS servers, it works"12:55
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Shin_Goukikbrooks, if i insert ubuntu CDrom for boot isntall , i typed "server" for server install12:55
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kbrooksNo, I don't think you get gcc -- what's a MC?12:56
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Shin_Goukikbrooks, installation is finished but i m missing gcc & mc , i need them though!12:56
calamarihi12:56
Trashcanthe guys who wrote xchat need to learn to comment :(12:56
kbrooksoh.p12:56
florianhow can I turn on num-lock at bootup12:56
kbrooksapt-get install build-essential mc12:56
[LethAL] Shin_Gouki, apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`12:56
kbrooks[LethAL] , No.12:56
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calamariis it possible to switch from 24 bit color mode to 15 or 16 bit modes?  Thee screen resolution app doesn't give the option12:56
element_ok that might not work, i just d.l wireless_tools.27 from the hp site and its in .tar.gz . if unpacked it, but how do i compile this now?12:56
kbrookshe does not ned the headers,12:57
ZBlachoh hang on.12:57
ZBlachits working!12:57
kbrooksneed*12:57
Shin_Gouki@ALL i DONT have net acces so NO apt get, how do i install MC & gcc?12:57
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ZBlachbut _very_slowly_12:57
[LethAL] Shin_Gouki, they're on the CD12:57
Shin_Goukilethal, thx how do i install from cd?12:57
[LethAL] apt-get12:57
ColonelKerneltheres ntohign wrong with my hardware12:57
ZBlachwith a DNS of my router, 3 packets in 20 seconds12:57
p0windahShin_Gouki: sitck in your cd and type "apt-get install --reinstall build-essential"12:57
Shin_Goukilethal, how do i mount the CD rom ^^12:57
Trashcanthose would be timing out, zblanch12:58
Trashcan(can't resolve)12:58
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kbrooksShin_Gouki, you have apt-get.12:58
TrashcanYou need to get the DNS server from your ISP and use that12:58
[LethAL] sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom0 I think12:58
ZBlachTrashcan, but i get results12:58
Trashcanoh?12:58
ZBlachi'll find out my DNS12:58
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ZBlachreally slow results12:58
Trashcanoh boy..12:58
ZBlachi'm now online12:58
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Shin_Goukiok , if i do sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom0 & apt-get install --reinstall build-essential" , WILL i have then gcc & mc??12:59
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fullybadhallo can someone help me install two cards under ubutu please12:59
p0windahZBlach: if your lookups are slow, you might want to consider installing pdns12:59
ZBlachpdns?12:59
JhairNormally using usepeerdns as ppp option for your connection should update your /etc/resolv.conf with the proper DNS12:59
Shin_Goukiand in which directory are programms beeing installed in ubuntu? are GCC & MC in same directory?12:59
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p0windahZBlach: local caching proxy dns server; small, simple and fast12:59
gruikHi guys, anybody know how to remove the noexec flag from a plug-ed in usb drive?01:00
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ZBlachp0windah, i'll get the DNS from my provider. thanks for the tip01:00
kbrooksShin_Gouki, mc is in a seperate package01:00
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p0windahZBlach: yeah you tell it to get results from your provider, but then it caches it on your machine...01:00
davrofullybad: you would like to install two cards under ubuntu, what type of cards ? netword, graphic, credit cards !01:00
fullybadnetwork01:01
ZBlachi'll look into it01:01
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ZBlachone final question01:01
fullybadnetwork card01:01
kbrookswarcraft. hmmm.01:01
fullybada realtek and 3com01:01
ZBlachhow can I configure it to take open as the encryption protocol as default?01:01
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bobborcQ: I'm having troubles downloading the no-ip software as it says on the wika.ubuntu site.01:02
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ProN00bno-ip ?01:02
ProN00buse affraid.org01:02
Trashcanwhat's the problem bob/.01:02
Trashcan?*01:02
ProN00bafraid.org = 133701:02
[LethAL] ZBlach, try installing wifi-radar01:02
kbrooksWow.01:02
ColonelKernelMPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio <---- please help! Acm codec seems to be crashing my mplayer01:02
Jhairbobborc: I use the no-ip package on hoary without problems01:02
ProN00bno-ip.com = lame01:02
[LethAL] ProN00b, I use DynDNS... Router updates it for me :d01:02
Trashcansame01:03
davrofullybad, must go im nearly suffocating, coffee wrong hole....01:03
JhairProN00b: yes sure as lame as VisualBasic01:03
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Trashcannothing wrong with no-ip01:03
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ProN00bJhair, my VB programs deal more damage than your c++ programs01:03
fullybadok01:03
Jhairignore ProN00b01:03
Trashcanmore damage to the system resources, maybe01:03
bob2VB programs deal 50 insanity points to anyone who has to maintain them01:03
[LethAL] And to the system01:04
LootBeerhow does one check what cd burning tolls he has installed in his  boxen?????01:04
bobborcbobborc@BobBorc:~$ sudo apt-get install no-ip01:04
bobborcReading package lists... Done01:04
bobborcBuilding dependency tree... Done01:04
bobborcE: Couldn't find package no-ip01:04
bobborcbobborc@BobBorc:~$ sudo apt-get install no-ip01:04
bobborcReading package lists... Done01:04
bobborcBuilding dependency tree... Done01:04
NsOmNiAcI don't know .. if he got his head out of his ass and started going dev work for mono01:04
bobborcE: Couldn't find package no-ip01:04
bobborcwoops.. didnt mean to spam01:04
Trashcanbob don't paste in here01:04
NsOmNiAche could help some people out01:04
bob2bobborc: please don't do that01:04
p0windahLootBeer: in a terminal type "what cd burning programs are installed", then press enter twice before pressing escape01:04
Trashcanhttp://bobs.pastebin.com01:04
fullybadcan anyone help me install two network cards under ubutu please01:05
bob2bobborc: and that error is pretty clear01:05
ProN00bafraid.org is just better than no-ip, afraid got 19k subdomains you can choose from ^^01:05
bob2fullybad: be more specific about your problem01:05
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bobborcso it's no available anymore?01:05
bob2no-ip - A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service01:05
bob2bobborc: it certainly is, perhaps you haven't configured apt to find it yet01:05
bob2bobborc: /msg ubotu repositories01:05
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WizardlingHey - anyone know when exactly the new Ubuntu CDs will be sent out?01:05
Jhairbobborc: something is not right with your sources.list the package exists: Filename: pool/universe/n/no-ip/no-ip_2.1.1-4_i386.deb01:06
Shin_Goukihi! what is the apt-get command for installing MC??01:06
p0windahShin_Gouki: apt-get install mc01:06
bob2Wizardling: in the past they've gone out a few weeks after the release01:06
Trashcanhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=no-ip&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all01:06
fullybadi install one card and with it a can get my internet now but when I insert the second network card my net drop out01:06
Trashcanno-ip is in universe01:06
Trashcanyou probably havn't added the repo yet01:06
[LethAL] fullybad, something to do with routes... open network-admin01:06
bob2fullybad: "net drop out"?01:06
bob2fullybad: you mean "It works fine with one NIC, but when I reboot and install a second one, I'm unable to reach the internet using either"?01:07
fullybadI cayes01:07
WizardlingThanks bob201:07
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fullybadyes that my probleme01:07
fullybadbob201:08
WizardlingSo there any Mac Ubuntu users here?01:08
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[LethAL] Ok...01:08
[LethAL] Right... bored... gltron01:09
bobborcbob2: could it be I need to perform all the updates?01:09
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kbrooksso ubuntu includes mike eh01:09
kbrookspike01:09
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Shin_Goukihi! what is the command switch for the "ls" command to list results "per page" like scroll able?01:09
fullybadbob2 , how can I solve this probleme ?01:10
Shin_Goukilike in old dos times /p??01:10
p0windahls -al  | more01:10
WizardlingIs there a BOINC (distibuted computing - SETI@home, etc) client for Mac Ubuntu?01:10
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Shin_Goukithx <p0windah> !!!01:10
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ColonelKernelBlissex, file plays fine in windows01:11
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fullybadbob2 , do U have an idea how  I can solve it ?01:12
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gruiknoone knows where I can tweak the noexec settings for an external usb drive?01:13
nnonixfullybad: have you checked your default gateway device after booting with the 2nd nic? It may have changed to the new nic, in which case you wouldn't get out to the net.01:13
gruiklike in https://bugzilla.ubuntulinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2386 ?01:13
rawiramdhanHow can I check how many hdd linux detecs?01:13
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Hoxzer^can I somehow run commands to program that is already running?01:16
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Hoxzer^I want xine wich already running to open DVD01:16
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TiMiDoHoxzer, what do you meen?01:17
BlissexHoxzer^: Xine has a menu to do that.01:17
Hoxzer^Blissex: Yeah, but I dont use mouse01:17
Hoxzer^in HTPC01:17
nnonixSo what's the deal with the Breezy release? I know its this month but, will we hear anything prior to the release date or will it just show up on the Ubuntu site without notice?01:17
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kbrooksHoxzer, you vcan still use it.01:17
TiMiDonnonix, on october breezy will be released01:17
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Hoxzer^:D I DONT want to grab my mouse01:17
kbrooksnnonix, it is slated to be releasd the 13th01:17
kbrooksHoxzer, the menu01:18
Blissexnnonix: you know the bible -- Like a thief in the night :-)01:18
Hoxzer^It should be easily opened with remote controller01:18
Hoxzer^I want to setup simple binding for "Open DVD with xine"01:18
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Hoxzer^and I don't want it to open second xine01:19
BlissexHoxzer^: you mean an infrared controller?01:19
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Hoxzer^Blissex: yep01:19
Hoxzer^and Lirc01:19
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BlissexHoxzer^: ahhhhhh.....01:19
BlissexHoxzer^: well, then, I dont know if Xine by itself is ''scriptable''.01:20
p0windahI know that kind of thing is built into mplayer... would xine be similar ?01:20
BlissexHoxzer^: I am pretty use under KDE a front end to Xine called Kaffeine is scriptable using DCOP.01:20
nnonixAnyone have trouble with mp3 playback in Amarok under gnome? Mine crashes a few seconds in but works fine for radio streams, etc.01:20
BlissexHoxzer^: and as p0windah suspects probably Xine has builtin support for LIRC.01:21
Hoxzer^ok.... I'm littlebit newbie01:21
Hoxzer^But the thing is I want it to simple open DVD without keyboard or mouse just with remote controller01:21
p0windahHoxzer: your best bet is to hunt around sites that focus on linux set-top boxs01:21
BlissexHoxzer^: the Xine website has a lot of tutorials, if they support LIRC they will have a little tutorial.01:22
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p0windahHoxzer: I assure you there is a heap of ppl that have already done what you are trying to do01:22
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onkarshindeAnybody facing problem connecting to Google talk with GAIM on linux?01:22
Trashcannot at all01:22
p0windahonkarshinde: its working here01:22
tommi^Hi. I've just installed Windows XP on second hd and now my clock is mixed up. How do I tell linux that the bios clock is already on local time?01:23
BlissexHoxzer^: I just did the obvious web search and the first half a dozen link seem what you need... :-)01:23
ProN00bcan anyone talk to me on google talk please ?01:23
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ProN00bi never tested it01:23
onkarshindeTrashcan: p0windah: What version of gaim?01:23
ProN00bsame nick01:23
nopleaseknows everyone a good tageditor with cddb,not easytag01:23
BlissexHoxzer^: http://www.google.com/search?num=100&as_q=xine+lirc+remote+play01:23
ProN00bomg, plx !01:23
p0windahonkarshinde: whatever breezy is using01:23
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p0windahonkarshinde: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu301:24
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BlissexHoxzer^: for example this might help: http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/lirc.html01:24
wezzerbreezy is getting closer01:24
onkarshindep0windah: Ok. I am using 1.4.0 on hoary (backport) and I detected the problem.01:25
ProN00bonkarshinde, configure it with the tutorial on the google page, it was kinda tricky to me (first time on jabber)01:25
Shin_Goukihi ! what is the apt-get command to install GCC?01:25
Trashcanonkarshinde: sorry, 1.5.001:25
onkarshindeProN00b: Do you want me to ping on google talk?01:25
SeveasShin_Gouki, apt-get install build-essential01:25
Trashcanscreen name: your gmail addy without the @gmail.com01:25
ProN00bonkarshinde, could you talk to me on there ? same nick01:25
BlissexHoxzer^: and this is the official page on LIRC and Xine: http://www.xinehq.de/index.php/readme#2.4.401:25
Trashcanserver: gmail.com01:25
Trashcanresource: Gtalk01:25
Trashcan'more options' connect server: talk.google.com01:26
p0windahplease, dont spam the whole channel01:26
Trashcanshould be fine01:26
Shin_Goukiseveas, THX!!!01:26
holycowanyone have instructions for installing java on ubuntu?  i cannot find my old link to the ubuntu website, and now the instructions on there have some bullshit instructions on how to use the sun installer01:26
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holycowanyone know of a prepackaged 1.5 jre?01:26
onkarshindeTrashcan: Hey I made Resource blank and it is working now. I know other settings.01:27
TiMiDo!tell holycow about jre01:27
onkarshinde!java01:27
ubotumethinks java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java01:27
TiMiDo!tell holycow about java01:27
Seveas!jaa01:27
ubotuSeveas: Do they come in packets of five?01:27
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Seveas!java01:27
holycowthats bullshit01:27
holycowi'm not installing it like that01:27
CirroX!java01:27
holycow*grrr*01:27
Shin_Gouki!java01:27
uboturumour has it, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java01:27
Shin_Gouki?01:27
Trashcanmyspace crashed firefox :(01:27
Seveasholycow, i could give you a prepackaged one but my server just broke down tonight01:28
WizardlingIs there a BOINC (distibuted computing - SETI@home, etc) client for Mac Ubuntu?01:28
p0windahWizardling: what does apt-cache say ?01:28
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holycowSeveas, ah no prob, i thought there were prepackaged jres out there?01:28
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mattaionhello everybody ! i am a new linux user and looking for additional programms. does anyone of you know a good page for downloads01:28
holycowi remember installing it last time, infact i have a repo but i can't login for some reason01:28
ProN00bthere are, i apt-getted mine ^^01:28
Chousukemattaion: you need none01:28
kbrooksholycow, there was in hoary-extras, but it was removed01:28
p0windahmattaion: sf01:28
Chousukemattaion: use synaptic :P01:29
holycowkbrooks, aha! okay thats what i remember01:29
p0windahmattaion: sf.net, rather01:29
Seveasmattaion, applications -> add application01:29
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Seveasdon't download manually01:29
holycowkbrooks,was there are reason?01:29
Trashcanmattain: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager (on hoary)01:29
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TiMiDoSeveas, are you an ubuntu devel?01:29
holycowinstalling it like in the factoid is not the right way to do it imho01:29
mattaionok thank you!01:29
mattaioni will try...01:29
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onkarshindeDoes any one know if use of cairo has improved performance of GNOME in breezy?01:30
spolaanyone knows what WORM meia is?01:30
spolamedia*01:30
ProN00bif you install java from the ubuntu first users guide, like i did, it fucks firefox, you got to turn it off in the browser01:30
xTinaspola: Write Once Read Many.01:30
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spolaty :p01:31
holycowProN00b, yeah there used to be a deb package like kbrooks mentioned01:31
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onkarshindespola: a CDROM for example.01:31
spoladont you mean a cd-r ?01:32
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onkarshindespola: yes.01:32
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HeavyDwhat happens if i remove ubuntu-desktop?01:33
kbrooksHeavyD, Nothing.01:33
kbrooksHeavyD, gnome wont be removed01:33
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HeavyDok, so it is safe to remove it with gimp?01:33
HeavyDbecause it removes it when i remove gimp01:33
onkarshindeHeavyD: It is just a meta package to help upgrading the distro01:34
kbrooksCan someone look at this and correct: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (Codecs/DVD-Video)01:34
HeavyDok01:34
onkarshindeHeavyD: If you keep it you don't need to bother which packages are to be installed by default while upgradation.01:34
HeavyDok01:34
onkarshindekbrooks: what is to be corrected?01:34
HeavyDthx =)01:34
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mattaionwhat is a good programm to burn Cds and DVDs ?01:35
kbrooksonkarshinde, marillat01:35
Zeke1anybody know about a graphical manager for gnome called kiro or cairo or something like that?01:35
onkarshindemattaion: gnome-baker01:35
mattaionthx01:36
onkarshindeZeke1: cairo is not graphical manager, it is library01:36
onkarshinde!info gnome-baker01:36
onkarshindemattaion: you may find it in universe01:36
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VoXhow do i re-make/re-install the nvidia module for a new kernel version?01:42
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element_can someone help me out, im trying to install dwl-g50+ wireless card and im up to the point where it says run iwconfig (from sourceforge, after installing the wireless tools) and the return i get is "lo/eth0/sit0 - no wireless extensions.01:43
element_dwlg650+01:44
vengefulbreezy?01:44
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Gorkuhi all01:44
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element_warty01:44
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glynhow do I get PDF reading capability for Ubuntu?01:45
vengefulno idea..consider breezy...good wireless support and only 10 days from stable01:45
mischaglyn, apt-get install xpdf01:45
element_well till then i got 10 days to try to work this problem out, ive been sitting on it for 6 weeks and im not about to give up now... any other takers?01:46
wickedpuppyelement_, normally wireless is eth101:47
wickedpuppyyou are using laptop i assume ?01:47
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wickedpuppywith one lan and wireless ?01:47
glynmischa:How do I get a pdf file to open by default with xpdf?01:47
wickedpuppyglyn, have you tried opening a pdf file ?01:48
glynyeah it just asks me to find the location of what I want to open it with01:48
wickedpuppyi dont know about you but for me pdf just opens ... i never set any settings01:48
Trashcansame01:48
avalostyou can always do: xpdf path/to/file/filename01:48
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kbrooks"Ubuntu GNU/Linux"01:49
kbrookswtf.01:49
Trashcanwhy?01:49
Trashcantechnically it is based off of debian, and debian is a linux distro01:49
glynwhere is the xpdf reader located exactly?01:49
kbrooksI don't know.01:49
Trashcan:01:49
Trashcan:O01:49
glynI think it'd be easier to do that01:49
Seveaskbrooks, it's Ubuntu, not Ubuntu linux or Ubuntu GNU/linux01:49
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glynspecify the location01:49
VoXhow do i re-make/re-install the nvidia module for a new kernel version?01:49
kbrooksTrashcan, but ubuntu is drastically different from debian01:50
Trashcanaye01:50
avalostglyn, if you have it installed probably /usr/bin/xpdf01:50
kbrooksSeveas, I know. ;)01:50
Seveaskbrooks, good :)01:50
element_correct laptop with one onboard and wireless pcmcia. onboard is currently being used, any solutions?01:50
avalostor /usr/local/bin/xpdf01:50
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wickedpuppyglyn, you don't need to know xpdf location ... i am sure it will be in ya path .. unless you changed ya path ...01:50
avalostglyn, if you can't find it you may want to do "sudo updatedb"01:51
element_link light is active but Act light is off.01:51
VoXanyone?01:51
Seveas!nvidia01:51
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia01:51
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avalostVoX, do the same thing you did before, just "make clean" first01:51
VoXavalost: i havent had to do it before01:52
VoXSeveas: i tried that, didnt work01:52
Nano|9000people. whats good multi thread download manager to use?01:52
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atripathigoodevening all01:52
avalostVoX, did you get a nividia package or did you compile from source?01:52
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glynhow do I use xpdf to view a pdf link on a website?01:53
atripathidoes anybody know if Evolution works with gmail ?01:53
avalostglyn, listen to me01:53
wickedpuppyatripathi, yes it does01:53
kbrooksWhat's zchat01:53
kbrookszcat01:53
atripathiok.....then it seems I have some misconf.01:53
avalostglyn, install xpdf, do "sudo updatedb", open page with firefox, click pdf you wanna open, select xpdf, click ok01:54
VoXavalost: nvidia package from memmory01:54
avalostVoX, fire up synaptic and look for packages01:54
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element_anyone good any ideas on the wireless situation... eth1 is active but wireless card is down, i thought wireless runs on ath001:55
glyndoes sudo updatedb usually take a long time?01:55
avalostVoX, I do not have experience with nvidia packages at all but if it's already installed and there are no updated packages and it still doesn't work you may be able to do dpkg-reconfigure nvidiapackagename01:55
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VoXavalost: i worked it out, didnt have the restricted headers for nvidia, for my new kernel01:56
avalostnice01:56
glynwhen I do sudoupdatedb, my terminal just kinda sits there01:57
mazzenhi! im looking for a way to switch between two gcc version (3.4 and 4.0). i cant find a tool like gcc-config. how is this handle with ubuntu?01:57
p0windahglyn: yeah, it takes time01:57
wickedpuppyglyn, sudo updatedb ...two words01:57
p0windahglyn: grab yourself a coffee or beer01:57
atripathithere is no ximian or evolution channel on freenode :(01:57
Skidelement_: my wifi card runs on eth101:57
Skid(and also is shown as wifi0 too)01:57
Skidbut i dont know why that's going off :/01:58
VoXglyn: yeah, it can take a while01:58
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Seveasmazzen, export CC=gcc3.401:58
mazzenargon: there is an evolution channel on irc.gimp.net01:58
Seveasetc...01:58
atripathik01:58
Seveasmazzen, or sudo update-alternatives --config gcc01:58
mazzenSeveas: Thanks! :-)01:58
VoXglyn: i've got a 3500+ amd64, and it takes about 3 minutes for me.. i remember on an old p3/500 it would take around 20minutes01:58
jobu/j01:58
WinZanybody have an experience in configuring ejabberd in Ubuntu?01:58
mazzenargon: or better irc.gimp.org01:59
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element_i see skid, so what can u recommend me to do now?01:59
kbrooksbbl02:00
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mazzenhuh! when i run "update-alternatives --config gcc " i get "No alternatives for gcc.02:01
mazzen" but i have gcc-3.4     gcc-4.0 ?02:01
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glynavalost:I ran sudoupdatedb and clicked on the direct link to the PDF, the window popped up asking what I wanted firefox to do, I said open with and chose usr/bin/xpdf but the "ok" box is in grey and I can't click it02:01
glyn*sudo updatedb02:01
Seveasmazzen, hmm, then it's probably sodu dpkg-reconfigure gcc-4.002:02
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Seveasdang, not even that02:03
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Seveasmanually symlinking it seems the only option02:03
glyncould it be possible xpdf is located somewhere other than usr/bin?02:03
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rawiramdhanHow do I connect with commands, to shared windows computers?02:04
element_glyn, if its a saving issue, try the back arrow within the firfox save window or try to create a new folder from the current location,.02:04
Kartoffelhow can I make grub start an other linux distibution installed on its own partition?02:05
bigfoot1guys, on a window pc, i used winzip to split up a big file into smaller chunks. The files are named foo.z01, foo.z02, etc. How can I put them back together into one file again?02:05
Kartoffel+r02:05
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rawiramdhanextract each file and zip it again?02:05
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Kartoffelor better how to add this distribution to the bootmanager...02:06
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wickedpuppyglyn, have you installed xpdf ?02:06
glynYes02:06
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wickedpuppyif you have .. .try locate xpdf or whereis xpdf02:06
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glynI did that02:06
bigfoot1rawiramdhan, i don't think each file is extractable, at least, not on my ubuntu. there is no application set up to open these files.02:06
wickedpuppythen ?02:06
wickedpuppywhat you got ?02:06
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rawiramdhanapt-get install unrar-free02:07
glynI have a bunch of language things like turkish cyrliic thai hebrew, xpdfrc "includes" and a bunch of other stuff02:07
tommi^Hi. I've installed windows on a second hard drive and it seems that Windows xp always changes the bios clock to local time and ubuntu assumes it's gmt. How do I correct this? How do I make my Ubunutu installation understand that it's local time, not gmt?02:07
wickedpuppywhereis xpdf ?02:07
Zeke1anybody know about a graphical manager for gnome called kiro or cairo or something like that?02:07
wickedpuppytommi^, configure your time ?? right click on your clock at the right top will do02:08
glynusr/bin/xpdf usr/bin/xpdf.bin /etc/xpdf usr/share/xpdf usr/share/man/man1/xpdf.1.gz02:08
wickedpuppyZeke1, what does that program manage ?02:08
Zeke1its apparently new and pretty good?02:08
glynthat's what I get when I do a whereis xpdf02:08
mazzenSeveas: thanks anyway!02:08
wickedpuppyglyn, then xpdf is in usr/bin02:08
Zeke1wickedpuppy, well its like gdm02:08
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Zeke1its a graphics base for gnome02:09
bigfoot1is there a zip program for ubuntu? A program that works with files such as foo.z01, foo.z02?02:09
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wickedpuppy!zip02:09
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ubotuI don't know, wickedpuppy02:09
wickedpuppyoh hmms ... bigfoot1 there is unzip02:09
Zeke1anybody know anything about it02:10
wickedpuppyalso zip02:10
bigfoot1wickedpuppy, does unzip work with my split files (foo.z01, foo.z02... ... ...)?02:10
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glynwickedpuppy:The only xpdf in usr/bin is a shell script02:10
wickedpuppybigfoot1, i suppose so ... how i don't know ...02:10
Skidrar does02:10
bigfoot1Skid, rar works with split files in the format of foo.z01 foo.z02 etc?02:10
wickedpuppyusr/bin/xpdf.bin ?02:11
Skidafaik, yes02:11
Skidget it from www.rarlab.com02:11
wickedpuppysurely thats a binary file02:11
Skidthen stick unrar/rar in /usr/bin ;)02:11
bigfoot1skid, not available from repo?02:11
Skidand then: unrar x zip.z0102:11
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wickedpuppythats a commercial product i believe02:11
Skiderm unrar is02:11
Skidbut its crap02:11
glyntype:shell script size 1 kb mime type application/x-shellscript02:11
Skidand doens't split spanned files02:11
Skidyou know have to extract it anyway02:12
Skidthere's no compiling.02:12
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hubsiguten tag02:12
bigfoot1unrar is excrement while rar isn't?02:12
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Skidfrom the repo's, unrar is non-free02:12
Skidso; just download "winrar" from www.rarlab.com02:12
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glynah I found the bin02:12
bigfoot1skid, are unrar and rar 2 seperate programs?02:12
Skidthere's a linux/unix CLI variant02:12
bigfoot1Skid, winrar works with ubuntu?02:12
Skidyep02:13
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bigfoot1so what is the best to get, skid: winrar or unrar or what?02:13
Skidbigfoot1: listen, just download from rarlab.com -02:13
Skidbleh02:13
Skidi'll get the link.02:13
wickedpuppylol02:13
lemics_only command line02:13
glynwickedpuppy:I still get the same problem when I try opening the file with xpdf.bin02:13
Skidbigfoot1: http://www.rarlab.com/rar/rarlinux-3.5.0.tar.gz02:13
Skidget that02:13
Skidextract it02:13
glyncan't click ok02:13
Skid(tar zxvf rarlinux-3.5.0.tar.gz)02:13
Skidthen moce into the dir02:14
Skidmove02:14
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Skidand copy the binaries to /usr/bin02:14
wickedpuppyglyn, can you download the pdf file and open it ?02:14
bigfoot1Skid, thanks.02:14
Skidor just run from there, but its' better if their in your path02:14
glynI can't save it for some reason02:14
wickedpuppysee if you can view it02:14
wickedpuppyimpossible ... what reason ?02:14
glynI try saving it then I look for the file and it's not there02:14
glynI click save and okay02:14
wickedpuppythen its not there!!!!!02:14
bigfoot1skid: "or just run from there, but its' better if their in your path" : are you talking to me02:15
bigfoot1?02:15
Skidbigfoot1: yep02:15
bigfoot1if so, skid, how do i add to path?02:15
wickedpuppyif its not there , there is no way to see it ... you can't open a file that doesn't exist02:15
Skidjust put them in /usr/bin (the files: rar, unrar and there's one more, like rar-stats or somthing)02:15
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glynhmm is it possible it can still be in a search engine even though it's not there anymore?02:15
bigfoot1Skid, there's a makefile inside. Do i have to run "make"02:16
bigfoot1?02:16
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wickedpuppyglyn, can give me the link ?02:16
wickedpuppylet me see what are you trying to get02:16
Skidbigfoot1: hang on - pm me if you want just gonna get the file and see if it's the same one02:16
glynwickedpuppy:www.nbcd.gov.tw/download/Ken's_thesis-final-Nov_2001_abstract_.pdf02:17
Skidbigfoot1: no, the makefile just moves the binaries into the respective directories02:17
mattaionhello, when i connect my ext harddisk and want to open it, ubuntu says it is onlx possible with "root". How can i fix that problem?02:17
Skidyou can do it (with sudo), or just copy the rar/unrar files into /usr/bin yourself02:17
bigfoot1Skid, when is is using makefile a good thing?02:17
Skidwhen you're compiling.. if you want to, you can do it it doesn't really matter02:18
Skidit's just achieveing the same thing really02:18
mattaioni just installed ubuntu one hour ago, sorry i dont know what sudo is ?02:18
Skideither way it just puts the two binary files into the /usr/bin (local) directory02:18
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bigfoot1skid, ok, so I'll copy and paste into usr/bin the programs: But is default.sfx included? It is an "executable."02:19
Skid!sudo02:19
ubotufrom memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:19
Skidmattaion: check that link02:19
wesleypeople, how can i change my ip using txt mode?02:19
Skidnope02:19
Skidbigfoot1: an sfx is a "self extracting exe"02:19
Skidor executeable02:19
mischaglyn, /usr/bin/xpdf02:19
Skidsame thing ;p02:19
mattaionok thank you ! @skid02:19
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Skidmattaion: np02:19
Skidwesley: "change" it ?02:19
bigfoot1skid, so if i understand you correctly, the non-nerdy way of doing what you say is running makefile correct?02:19
wesleyyep, the ip'address02:20
Skidwesley: have a look @ /etc/network/interfaces02:20
wesleygood02:20
Skidwesley: you need to use sudo to do so02:20
Skid(edit it)02:20
Skidbigfoot1: well yes, I guess heh02:20
bigfoot1okay.02:20
SkidI didn't even notice there was a makefile, bigfoot1 - so I just copied them in there myself02:20
Skid(to tell the honest truth02:20
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glynmischa>that won't work...02:21
bigfoot1Skid,  if you noticed the makefile, would you have used it?02:21
wickedpuppyglyn, your topic start with abstract02:21
wickedpuppyright ?>02:21
wesleyand now, how can i reload the settings?02:21
occywill Breezy have a Graphical installer, or are we still in curses based install mode?02:21
bigfoot1skid, i ran the makefile now. I guess I can delete the extracted rar folder, right?02:21
Skidbigfoot1: probably not, as there's no compiling to be done - I just saw the rar and unrar files that I needed, and thought oh i'll put these into /usr/bin as that dir is already in the path variable02:21
Skidbigfoot1: yep02:21
Zaphod_42occy: why do you ask?02:22
bigfoot1well, skid, I'm a non-nerd, so i ran the makefile. I hope the effect is the same and the best one possible.02:22
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occyZaphod_42, heh, just curious.02:22
Skidbigfoot1: cat Makefile02:22
Skidyou can see what it does02:22
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Skid(makes two directories, and cp's rar and unrar into em)02:22
bigfoot1skid, i just doubleclicked on it and it opened up in gedit.02:22
Skidoh, and the other crap02:22
Zaphod_42... thw preview has ncurses - luckily02:22
Skid:)02:22
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wickedpuppyglyn, still there ?02:22
occyZaphod_42, I'll use it either way, just want to know if we had worked out a Graphical installer yet or not.  I thought there was talk about it.02:22
Skidbigfoot1: open a shell, and type 'rar'02:23
bigfoot1done.02:23
Skidyou'll see the options spammed at you if it's done it ok02:23
Skidbut the command you need (to extract to the archives paths) is: unrar x <file>.<ext>02:23
occywish I had a spare box just for testing stuff02:23
Skidso foo.z01 or whatever it was called02:23
bigfoot1skid the extensions are all different.02:23
SkidI've extracted zips with rar before02:23
occycan't afford to mess with my work laptop.02:24
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Seveasoccy, I had one, fan broke down a few hours ago :(02:24
bigfoot1it's from z01 to z2902:24
Seveas</bitter>02:24
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occySeveas, :(02:24
Skidbigfoot1: each file points to the next02:24
Skidtry it02:24
bigfoot1skid, so which extension do i use, the first (z01)?02:24
avalostfans are easy to replace though02:24
avalostso it's not too bad searcher`02:24
Skidbigfoot1: yep, or if there's a .zip use that02:24
avalosterr Seveas02:24
Seveasif you can get them02:24
Seveasit's an old k702:24
rc55Hi - I'm installing ubuntu under Qemu/Win32 and it's freezing trying to find the apt repository. The network is currently not setup, is there any way of skipping this step and configuring it later?02:24
bigfoot1skid, thanks. will try so now.02:24
avalostSeveas, newegg02:24
Skidbigfoot1: I extract .r01 -> rXX, or .part01's from rars all the time, sooooooooooooo it should work02:24
glynwickedpuppy>yes sorry02:25
ProN00brc55, i suggest you install qemu under ubuntu and run win32 from it02:25
bigfoot1skid, i ran "unrar foo.z01" but nothing seemed to happen.02:25
glynwickedpuppy>Abstract is in the file02:25
Skidbigfoot1: it just returned to the command land?02:25
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bigfoot1Skid, yes, the whole spam of options02:25
rc55ProN00b: It's not my system ;) - I agree with you completely. Any ideas on my problem?02:26
Skidbigfoot1: unrar x foo.z0102:26
Skidyou forgot the parameter02:26
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bigfoot1skid, "foo.z01 is not a RAR archive" is the error message I got.02:27
zdavidlnxany idea when "Breeze" final realease will come?02:27
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bigfoot1zdavidlnx, Oct 1302:27
Skidbigfoot1: ok, is unzup installed?02:27
Skidunzip sorry02:27
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mischahi all02:27
bigfoot1Skid, no it's not. You just told me the link for rar.02:27
bigfoot1hi mischa02:27
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bastidoes anyone have a  solution for this problem (not being able to install from a spanking new plextor dvd-burner)? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5245102:27
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ProN00bno, sorry, but using a live-cd might be an alternative solution, as well as just setting the network thingy up, or skipping it (somehow) ^^02:27
egoleohello02:28
mischai am having a strange issue with breezy....02:28
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bigfoot1skid, if unzip is necessary, please tell me where to get. is it in repo+?02:28
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egoleois backports not working for breezy?02:28
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mischait takes for ever to start x02:28
Skidok, bigfoot1: apt-get install unzip02:28
Skid(it may be in universe)02:28
Ngegoleo: there's nothing to backport yet ;)02:28
Skidthen unzip --help (I've not used it before)02:28
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Skidbrb, gotta go to the garage.02:29
egoleoso where do i get some add ons for breezy02:29
mischai get the splash screen and then nothong for a minute or two and that it continious normaly02:29
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egoleolike mplayer02:29
egoleoand the codes02:29
egoleocodecs02:29
egoleoand acroread02:29
_jason!tell egoleo about restricted02:29
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silent_screamhi! where can I find libxslt-proc ???02:29
mischai can see in my proses list that dbus-launch is resposible...i02:29
_jasonegoleo:  thats for the codecs, search the wiki for the other stuff and you should be in good shape02:29
alishermplayer is in breezy, guess universe/multiverse02:30
bigfoot1can someone teach me unzip, please? I have it installed but can't understand unzip --help.02:30
alisheracroread too02:30
egoleook02:30
bigfoot1I'm trynig to unzip a multi-volume zipped file02:30
egoleounzip filetounzip02:30
alishercodecs are out for legal reazons, you have to search yourself for02:30
bigfoot1egoleo,  but the files are "chopped up" into foo.z01 foo.z02 ..... foo.z2902:31
bigfoot1egoleo, will your command work?02:31
bigfoot1egoleo, if so, which "file" do I use?02:31
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egoleoyeah02:31
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mischaanyone have any idea what could cause dbus-launch to take soo long???02:31
egoleogive me one of ur file names02:31
_iGadget_hi all02:31
bigfoot1egoleo, foo.z0102:31
rawiramdhanI'm searching for a program that can make, encrypt, decrypt and maintain passwords does anyknow A program who can do this?02:31
_iGadget_kwallet?02:32
CirroXConfigured port 2/21 on ELC-SWI4.02:32
CirroXSet it to trunking mode and assigned to IPtel VLAN.02:32
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eeaaxxanybody knows what are the boot parameters in ubuntu live cd?02:32
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egoleobut is that a zip file?02:34
bigfoot1egoleo, yes, Winzip (on my Windows PC) made it.02:34
alisherrawiramdhan: just type "password manager" in Synaptic, you will find several of them02:34
_jasonbigfoot1:  have you tried using accessories > archive manager?02:35
bigfoot1egoleo, I tried unzip foo.z01 but it asks for the last "disk" of the file.02:35
bigfoot1_jason, how do i do that?02:35
bigfoot1Do i have it try to open the file?02:35
nalioth_zZzbigfoot1: do you have all the archives?02:35
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_jasonbigfoot1:  go to accessories > archive manager02:35
bigfoot1nalioth, i think so.02:35
egoleolast disk of which file02:35
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rawiramdhanI was looking voor a cli app, but thanx to alisher I think I found one..02:35
_jasonbigfoot1:  it is in the applications menu02:35
LaptopZZIs there any reason why I can boot live cds on my laptop, but I can't boot the install disk? I have tried 5.04 and 5.1002:35
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bigfoot1from foo.z01 to foo.z26. For some reason I also have a file named foo.zip_renamed.02:36
silent_screamwhere can I find libxslt-proc ???02:36
egoleothen maybe is not a zip file02:36
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alisherrawiramdhan: zsafe, kwalletmanager, fpm02:36
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bigfoot1egoleo, what made you conclude so?02:36
egoleocheck whethere is another archive file02:36
egoleolike .tar02:36
egoleo.bzip02:36
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egoleoor something elese02:36
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pzicohelp!! "Kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt"..02:37
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mischai am having a strange issue with starting gnome under breezy....02:37
mischai get the splash screen and then nothing for a minute or two and then it continious normaly. I can see in my proses list that dbus-launch is resposible...02:37
mischaanyone have any idea what could cause dbus-launch to take soo long???02:37
egoleois either u dont have some driver support for ur system02:37
egoleoor some hardware support02:38
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bigfoot1_jason, nalioth egoleo: For some reason I changed foo.zip_renamed to foo.zip and that fixes things!! I wonder why I renamed that file in the first place. Yahooooooooooooo! Gooooooooooooogle!02:38
ScatterBrainDuring bootup, hdparm starts and I get a message that '/dev/hdc was not found'.  /dev/hdc is my DVD+RW drive and I'm trying to enable DMA on it.02:38
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ubuntu_adiktushello02:38
egoleooh ok02:38
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BlissexScatterBrain: it looks like your DVD drive has changed address and now lives in Las Vegas... :-)02:38
ubuntu_adiktuscan i ask how I can install ubuntu??02:39
egoleoso it means that it wasn't a zip file then02:39
egoleois now02:39
egoleoyeash02:39
ScatterBrainDMA is actually enabled, but I'm concerned about the message.02:39
_iGadget_ubuntu_adiktus: of course you can :)02:39
ScatterBrainBlissex: I wish it would take me with it.  :-002:39
bigfoot1egoleo, oh now. the file called foo.zip_renamed and now called foo.zip won't work still!02:39
ubuntu_adiktuspls02:39
egoleoubuntu_adiktus: do u have linux cd02:39
Blissexubuntu_adiktus: there are rather complete installation instructions on the Ubuntu wiki online02:39
ubuntu_adiktusi dont have02:39
ubuntu_adiktusi just download ubuntu cd image online02:40
bigfoot1In using archive manager, I get the error: "An error occured while extracting files"02:40
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BlissexScatterBrain: try to do these two things to check out things: 'head /proc/ide/hd*/model' and 'hdparm -v /dev/hd?'02:40
_iGadget_ubuntu_adiktus: well... maybe that's a good way to start. Burn it to a recorable cd, and boot from it ;)02:40
bigfoot1The output I got was: file #1:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  402:40
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bigfoot1what does the above mean?02:40
ubuntu_adiktusit doesnt boot02:40
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ubuntu_adiktussir02:40
naliothubuntu_adiktus: check your md5 checksums02:40
ubuntu_adiktusooopsss im a newbie02:41
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Blissexbigfoot1: most probably that the ZIP file is slightly corrupted.02:41
zdavidlnxhi any one know the aprox. date of Breeze final release?02:41
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bigfoot1Blissex, how can i check if corruption is in fact the problem?02:41
Blissexubuntu_adiktus: you ahve to burn the ISO file as an _image_ not as a file.02:41
naliothzdavidlnx: oct 1302:41
_iGadget_adiktus: if that doesn't work, have you tried booting from other cd's? Does that work?02:41
ScatterBrainBlissex: From the 'head' command I get model information from both my Hard Drive (hda) and my DVD (hdc)02:41
Blissexbigfoot1: yes you can :-).02:41
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ubuntu_adiktusi have sucessfully created an ISO cd02:41
bigfoot1Blissex, how?02:41
egoleook02:41
bigfoot1Blissex, HOW can I check whether it is corrupted, or not+02:41
bigfoot1?02:41
egoleojust restart ur system and slot the cd in02:41
zdavidlnxThanks nalioth02:42
Blissexbigfoot1: use the 'zip -t' ('-t' means ''test'') command.02:42
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ScatterBrainBlissex: from hdparm -v, I get the proper information, including the fact that DMA is enable for that drive.02:42
BlissexScatterBrain: so everything should be all right... So it is a bit weird.02:42
naliothbigfoot1: i hate to ask this....do you have a window box available?02:42
silent_screamwhere can I find libxslt-proc ???02:42
bigfoot1nalioth, not now, but why?02:43
BlissexScatterBrain: what does 'ls -ld /dev/hdc' say?02:43
_jasondoes flash sound in firefox work in breezy?02:43
ubuntu_adiktusoh i guess my cd is not yet in autoboot02:43
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Blissex_jason: it works in all releases, but there are complicated issues anyhow.02:43
naliothbigfoot1: out there in the wilds of the internet is a program called "zipfix"02:43
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ScatterBrainBlissex: brw-rw----  1 root cdrom 22, 0 Oct  3 08:34 /dev/hdc02:43
ubuntu_adiktusIm using xp under ntfs02:43
seliniumhi nalioth  :)02:43
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ubuntu_adiktusdoes it affect02:43
BlissexScatterBrain: and that looks good too.02:43
bigfoot1nalioth, and zipfix is only for windows, yes?02:43
ubuntu_adiktusanything02:43
naliothSlicerDicer-: mawnin'02:43
_iGadget_adiktus: righto... so fix your bios, then try again ;)02:43
naliothbigfoot1: i havent found it yet for linux02:43
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bigfoot1nalioth, i see.02:44
ubuntu_adiktusthanks ill be back if something goes wrong02:44
ubuntu_adiktusthanks sir igadget02:44
ubuntu_adiktusIll reboot noe02:44
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ubuntu_adiktusnow02:44
_iGadget_adiktus: just make sure to defrag your drive befor installing02:44
ubuntu_adiktusbye02:44
ubuntu_adiktuswhy?02:44
ScatterBrainBlissex: Everything *seems* OK, I just don't like the bootup error.02:44
_iGadget_adiktus: because ubuntu wants a part of it...02:45
bigfoot1how could my zip files have gone corrupted? I just emailed the files to myself.02:45
knubbeanyone having troubles with Eclipse IDE since tonight's updates? (breezy)02:45
ubuntu_adiktusok02:45
ubuntu_adiktusthanks02:45
bigfoot1I thought corruption only happened with stuff like floppy disks.02:45
ubuntu_adiktusbye02:45
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_iGadget_good luck02:45
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ColonelKernelbigfoot1, it happens with bad memory and bad harddrives and bad ide controllers too02:45
Blissexbigfoot1: perhaps with the wrong attachment type -- if you did not use a binary attachment type, it has been transmitted as text, and that causes trouble.02:45
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naliothbigfoot1: corruption hs everywhere. your router can cause it02:45
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bigfoot1ColonelKernel, next time I'm going to use an online storage space like sendthisfile.com or opera's free 300 MB storage.02:46
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phaserany quick howto to make ati drivers work with 5.1002:47
`6oganyone here play gnometris?02:47
Trashcan!tell phaser about ati02:47
phaser:)02:47
phaserthanks.02:47
`6og:/02:48
`6ogoh, the nic02:48
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Kamping_Kaiserbetter02:49
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slibshi02:51
Kamping_Kaiseri was wondering if anyone else had had this bug in gnometris, thats why i asked :/02:51
Kamping_Kaiserhi slibs :O02:51
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joe_alfi have vmware installed on ubuntu and guest windows xp using nat and windows 2003 server using bridge. in windows xp i can connect to internet thru ubuntu 'host' but in windows 2003 server i can't connect to the internet. does anybody know how can i make the internet connection from host share to windows 2003 server using the bridge.02:51
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Kamping_Kaiserno, sorry joe_alf02:52
slibsany ideas why, when i try to connect in this channel with my other ubuntumachine, irssi suddenly freezes, and then i have to kill it to get things working again :D02:52
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naliothjoe_alf: that seems to be either a vmware question or a windows question02:52
Kamping_Kaiserirssi is a thing of the devil :)02:52
Myrtti<3 irssi02:52
ccookeKamping_Kaiser: no, that's bitchX :-)02:52
slibsand other thing, what update could cause that my cd-drive wont burn anything anymore?02:52
Kamping_Kaiserlol ccooke02:53
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mischai am having a strange issue with starting gnome under breezy....02:53
mischai get the splash screen and then nothing for a minute or two and then it continious normaly. I can see in my proses list that dbus-launch is resposible...02:53
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mischaanyone have any idea what could cause dbus-launch to take soo long???02:53
JustinHHi had some problems with grub. it apeared an error. i managed with an other program to boot windows. but now i can not start ubuntu. please help02:53
ccookeslibs: What were you using to burn?02:53
slibsk3b02:53
slibsi have also tried gnomebaker02:53
ccookeslibs: try cdrecord02:53
ccookeslibs: it'll give better error messages02:54
slibsis it unixlike or what?02:54
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ccookecdrecord is a command-line tool.02:54
egoleoyeah02:54
slibsyeah, that's what i tried to ask :D02:54
slibsbut hey thanks, that's a good idea02:54
egoleohow do i burn an iso file with gnomebaker02:54
avalostcan someone take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/273602:54
ccookeeglin ubuntu, just right-click on the file.02:55
slibsand hmm, it also has something to do with usb and firewire, since my dvd-drive is actually external one02:55
egoleobut how do i create the image02:55
ccookeavalost: that's fine.02:55
egoleosay from a Ubuntu cd02:55
ccookeegoleo: you want to burn an existing cd? or create a new image?02:55
slibsburning image and making one can't be used as same term :D02:56
robertjegoleo: you should be able to right click a cd and select burn02:56
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avalostccooke, what about removing it?02:56
egoleoyeah02:56
ccookeavalost: no, don't do that.02:56
egoleobut say i want to do cd to cd02:56
avalostccooke, ok, thanks02:56
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ccookeegoleo: simplest way to do that is, in a terminal:02:56
egoleoand how02:57
whyameyewhen I play sound through OSS it sounds great. Through Alsa or ESD, there are some dropouts/clicks. Can I adjust buffer size or something somewhere?02:57
ccookeegoleo: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=filename.iso bs=819202:57
ccookeegoleo: (assuming /dev/cdrom is your cdrom device. It might be /dev/cdrw)02:57
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egoleoi tried mkok02:58
ccookeegoleo: if you try the command I gave you, you'll get an image.02:58
egoleoi tried mkfiso02:58
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ccookemkisofs?02:58
egoleoso it would squeeze it from the cd02:58
udinhalo met malem02:58
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ccookethat just creates an iso from a set of files02:59
ccookeegoleo: run the command I gave you.02:59
egoleook02:59
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JustinHHi had some problems with grub. it apeared an error. i managed with an other program to boot windows. but now i can not start ubuntu. please help03:00
naliothJustinHH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows03:01
egoleoso i can give any filename right03:01
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pl_icehi ya03:01
egoleohi ya03:02
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jhanki'm looking forward to the 13th... ;)03:02
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mopatopwhat's on the 13th? breezy release?03:03
pgavinumm.... is there some script or daemon or something that periodically resets the wtmp file on ubuntu?03:03
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jhankyepp :)03:03
udinalo met siang03:03
pl_iceany one seen papers on BIND configuration, or more like pdf book :/03:03
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samu2is there a way to play ALL wmvs in linux? i seem to only be able to play like a third of them. bit annoying.03:03
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egoleowhat player are using03:04
naliothsamu2: you'll have to ask Uncle Bill to help you with that question03:04
egoleofor that03:04
_iGadget_samu2: are you sure those others don't have DRM?03:04
jhankwarty was reaaaally promising but a few bugs made me angry like skype (i know it wasnt ubuntu's fault)03:04
mopatopI'd love a BIND graphical config03:04
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jhankwhat else... i already forgot...03:04
pl_icemopatop ,i'm listening ...03:04
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Chasehow do i stop kerenl modules autoloading in the new ubuntu 5.10 preview? I cant remember how i did it before :-(03:05
ardiansyahalo03:05
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lukenovahello03:05
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egoleohello03:05
pl_icemopatop , so u don't have any material on it?03:05
Chasehello03:05
samu2_iGadget_, VLC says "[00000251]  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'. VLC probably does not support this sound or video format."03:05
pl_icei03:05
mopatoppl_ice: no heh :'(03:05
pl_ice:(03:06
samu2so yeah, format not supported. but i was wondering if i might be missing some codecs or something.03:06
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naliothsamu2: yes, microsoft changes the codecs all the time, just so non-windows users cant use it03:06
naliothsamu2: you are screwed just like the rest of us03:06
lukenovai have a question. i'm semi-new to linux. i would like to install this and try it out...i've already tried the live-cds for both ubuntu and kubuntu...but i just want to ask...can i install it without having to lose my windows partition? cuz i'd like to be able to fall back to windows if i need to...03:06
deFrysksamu2, its what they say 'policy"03:06
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egoleogreat03:07
egoleou can03:07
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naliothlukenova: yes you can03:07
egoleobuit what us ur disk size03:07
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samu2can you play this one? http://www.cthulhulives.org/cocmovie/trailer.html either the mov or the wmv.03:07
egoleowhat is ur disk size03:07
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ProN00bsamu2, check other video players, xine, mplayer (of course vlc is best)03:07
naliothsamu2: install libquicktime03:08
lukenovai have a 120gb and a 80gb HD in this machine03:08
naliothlukenova: you can easily dual boot03:08
ProN00bthere is libquicktime ?03:08
samu2nalioth, umm yeah. but does that include a plugin for mozilla?03:08
lukenovabut the one i'm thinking about installing on has a 40gb i think03:08
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deFrysklukenova, 10 gigs is plenty for ubuntu03:08
naliothsamu2: mozilla mplayer plugin03:08
deFrysklukenova, so should be no prob03:08
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naliothlukenova: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo03:08
lukenovaawesome...i'll probably download and give it a try then...thanks for your help03:09
samu2nalioth, E: Couldn't find package libquicktime03:09
egoleocool03:09
deFrysklukenova, if you would like to share between files easyly from ubuntu-windows make a share partition using vfat03:09
naliothubotu: tell samu2 about sources03:09
naliothsamu2: enable universe and multiverse03:09
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samu2i thought i enabled all of those already03:10
egoleoi upgraded from hoary to breezy03:10
ProN00bsamu2, apt-cache search libquicktime reveals that the name is libquicktime103:10
egoleobut my xserver is not working03:10
egoleogiven me errors03:10
Gorkupeople, i'm having some problems with alsa, can someone help me a bit? ;)03:10
samu2ProN00b, that helps.03:10
egoleoerrors: can't create serverauth03:10
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egoleono permission03:11
udinalo03:11
wickedpuppyGorku, if you never ask ... we never know03:11
egoleoask what u want Gorku03:11
samu2will firefox go crazy if i have both mozilla mplayer plugin and the mozilla vlc plugin installed?03:11
ProN00bi don't think it will enable you to play proper quicktime with vlc (i think you could bevore, but most new quicktime vids use a newer sound codec you can't play)03:11
zdavidlnxbye03:11
ProN00bmozilla wont, samu2, however, the universe will colapse...03:11
wickedpuppysamu2, try it ... if firefox goes nut tell me ... i wanna do it as well03:11
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samu2ProN00b, i dont feel like ive had as much trouble with mov as with wmv03:12
egoleodo u also have the same problem when u install breezy with firefix03:12
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naliothsamu2: the more modern microsoft codecs wont play no matter what you do03:12
ProN00bsamu2, i couldn't play quicktime sound (in vids from apple.org) with vlc yet, can you ?03:13
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samu2ProN00b, hmm. i think the doom trailer was without sound...03:14
samu2can i also ask how youre supposed to upgrade to breezy when it gets released in a few days?03:14
ProN00bnegative03:14
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egoleojust do sudo vi /etc/apt/source.list03:15
pl_icehi again03:15
egoleoand change all hoary to breezy03:15
ProN00bholy03:16
ProN00bdoes that work ?03:16
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naliothsamu2: apt makes it easy, just a change in wording from "hoary" to "breezy"03:16
ProN00bwhy isn't there no gui way to do it ?03:16
ProN00bwould be a feature for the updatereminder03:17
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egoleoyeah03:17
egoleothat is what i am doing now03:17
necohello03:17
slibsamm03:17
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egoleoi am using breezy now03:17
ProN00byou r modding the updatereminder, egoleo ?03:17
samu2hmm, is there no way to just press a "upgrade to breezy" button somewhere?03:18
slibsso i can change my hoary to breezy with apt-get?03:18
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egoleonopes03:18
naliothsamu2: not quite THAT easy03:18
ProN00bthats uncool03:18
ccookeslibs: yes. However, there is some risk involved.03:18
pl_icehey, is there a way to 'join' 2 pc so that their processes can be split onto 2 processors??03:18
egoleobut one thing u have to comment the the first line of that file03:18
ccookeslibs: it'll be mmuch easier when breezy is fully released03:18
egoleowhich is that cdrom something something03:18
scandium_ok, I was told there are other people having the "read error" during breezy installation problem and it is said to be caused by enabling DMA, is there a way to boot with IDE DMA disabled to at least get breezy installed? (ide=nodma doesn't seem to work)03:18
slibsccooke: hah like what?, using windows is a risk03:18
samu2It just seems like such a workaround to change all instances of hoary to breezy in a textfile somewhere.03:19
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ProN00bwhen will breezy be released ?03:19
egoleoyeah03:19
slibsProN00b: topic?03:19
samu2Instead of having an actual upgrade -system command or something. Or a GUI tool to do it.03:19
egoleothen when u finish with that03:19
ProN00bas i said, they should put it in the gui updater03:19
egoleou do sudo apt-get update03:20
egoleoand then03:20
ProN00bsu > sudo03:20
egoleosudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:20
naliothsamu2: if you follow the link in the /topic, you'll find info on a one-line command to issue in the terminal, and then you can use your 'easy button'03:20
ccookeslibs: slightly more risky than running windows for a couple of months, I guess :-)03:20
egoleothat should work fine for ur new ubuntu breezy03:20
egoleois working perfect for me03:20
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ccookeslibs: the older a hoary install and the more software you have on it, the more chance of the upgrade breaking something.03:20
obsvuugjcan I reduce a partition with partman ?03:21
egoleocomment the backports too03:21
samu2nalioth, do you mean the upgrading to breezy link?03:21
slibsccooke: oh shit :D03:21
ccookeslibs: heh03:22
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slibssounds like it going to crash for sure in my case03:22
ccookeslibs: if you have an older install with lost of customisation - just install from the CD.03:22
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ccookemake a backup of your home directory03:22
slibsmm03:23
naliothsamu2: type /topic03:23
obsvuugjand how can the fingerprint reader work on a mIcRo$oFt keyboard ?03:23
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slibsim just thinking that is it wise to upgrade to breezy as soon as it'll be released :/03:24
samu2nalioth, I suppose you mean http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes? It says that there's a risk involved to it.03:24
egoleoif dont want to play with ur system03:24
egoleothen u should wait for sometime03:24
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egoleob4 u upgrade03:24
slibslike should i stick with hoary for a while, since i finally got things like i want them to be, except that my cd-rom drive wont burn cd's or dvd's anymore :/03:25
egoleobut at least for now is cool on my system03:25
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egoleoi love breezy03:25
egoleonow is fast03:25
naliothsamu2: right now breezy is still being polished. there is a small small chance if you upgrade something might come down and bodger your box03:25
egoleonautilius is also a real browser03:25
slibsis there a page which tells what's different in breezy?03:25
egoleocool03:25
egoleomore stuffs03:25
naliothsamu2: very small03:25
whyameyeis there a sample rate convertor for sound at the command line? Audacity isn't doing it's job...03:25
wickedpuppyslibs, won't burn ? using what program ? k3b ?03:25
Gorkui've a laptop with a es1688 card, everything seems to be ok, but nothing produces sound :/03:25
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egoleogoogle for it03:25
slibswickedpuppy: yeah03:25
egoleobreezy03:25
slibswickedpuppy: some update caused that03:26
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egoleoor check on ubuntu.org03:26
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wickedpuppyis it common ??03:26
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samu2slibs http://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/5.10preview03:26
slibscommon like what?03:26
egoleosound too is cool03:26
necoGorku, es1688? I had one before03:26
egoleoand i like totem is now great03:26
necoGorku, ESS lol03:27
samu2nalioth yeah im not upgrading yet. but i am just wondering what the official procedure for upgrading when breezy is officially available, is gonna be like.03:27
Gorkuneco: i think that is that card, /proc/asound/cards says that, but the sound doesn't work03:27
nalioth_wrknsamu2: same as the one outlined in the wiki03:27
egoleothat is all i have told u03:27
Gorkuthe apps detect the card, but they doesn't work03:28
slibsoh "Further enhancements to laptop support (hot keys,"03:28
necoGorku, modprobe...03:28
Gorkuand the mixers work also03:28
slibsthat sound's good!03:28
BlissexGorku: work thru the troubleshooting section of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 but I remember other people had trouble with a 1688 and could not fix that.03:28
samu2so you are supposed to replace your sources.list manually and then run apt-get dist-upgrade?03:28
Gorkuok, thanks03:28
egoleoupdate first03:28
necoGorku, I have some debian notes about ess03:28
samu2i just think replacing a text file somewhere to update your whole system feels a bit flimsy.03:29
egoleob4 dist-upgrade03:29
egoleothat is what i doing now03:29
pl_icehey, are there any howto caming as standart with ubuntu? where abouts?03:29
egoleois working03:29
necomy ess isa card seems to be fine...03:30
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scandium_does anyboy know if breezy will be installable using DVD drives which have the Philips Nexperia PNX7860E chipset? (BenQ and Plextor use it, perhaps others, breezy isn't installable using them :( Is this even a known problem?03:34
scandium_"if breezy final will be", I mean03:34
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fullybaddoes Ubutu support two network cards ?03:36
scandium_yes03:36
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Kamping_Kaiserfullybad: yeh, it does03:36
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Kamping_Kaiserscandium_: im suprrised it wont03:36
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cefok, who broke usplash?03:36
Kamping_Kaiserhave you checked bugzilla? this is teh first i have hear of it03:37
Kamping_Kaisercef:  the devs03:37
fullybadbut  since I put the second one I do have internet connection anymore03:37
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Kamping_Kaiserfullybad:  ist probalby trying to use the wrong card.03:37
scandium_Kamping_Kaiser, there is a "enable DMA by default for drives that are known to work"-bug and I heard that happens when DMA is enabled, but I don't know if 1) this is true and 2) the bug is related to that03:37
fullybadno03:37
Kamping_Kaiserand fwiw, i have 2 cards n my box03:37
cefKamping_Kaiser: I'm going to blame Daniel Stone.. if only cos even if it isn't his fault, I'm sure he deserves the blame for something!03:37
scandium_Kamping_Kaiser, there are a few people on ubuntuforums.org which have that problem...the installation just fails with a read error at the beginning of the curses installer03:38
Kamping_Kaiserlol cef, dont blame dan03:38
Kamping_Kaiserhes from aust ;)03:38
fullybadthe second one is not configure03:38
ccookecef: update to 0.1-2103:38
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fullybadshould i configure the second one also ?03:38
fullybad?03:38
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ccookecef: and do a  dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`03:38
pl_iceany one connected 2 pc together to use 2 processors at one time??03:39
Kamping_Kaiserscandium_: tryied doing an install with dma off?03:39
ccookecef: okay?03:39
scandium_Kamping_Kaiser, like "linux ide=nodma"? doesn't work03:39
cefccooke: you mean the one I have installed which DOESN'T work?03:39
Kamping_Kaiserfullybad: check in system -> admin -> networking03:39
pl_iceKamping_Kaiser ws wrong with aust ;)03:39
Kamping_Kaisermake sure its right in there03:39
ccookecef: tried the dpkg-reconfigure line?03:39
Kamping_Kaiserlol. pl_ice, im not perfect :P03:39
HiddenFlyis there a good download manager that can download simultaneously from multiple servers?03:39
scandium_Kamping_Kaiser, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71401 - and the first person responding told me he has the same problem and looking at the thread he posted this problem is there for months :)03:39
cefKamping_Kaiser: I'm from aus as well.. Daniel deserves everything he gets *grin*....03:39
Kamping_Kaiserscandium_: hm. :/03:39
pl_iceKamping_Kaiser but u gettin there ;)03:40
Kamping_KaiserHiddenFly: downloader for x?03:40
Kamping_Kaiserlmao Pl, thanks ;)03:40
HiddenFlyKamping_Kaiser: http/ftp03:40
BlueEaglehiddenfly: wget03:40
HiddenFlyk03:40
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Kamping_Kaisercef: lol. go to sleep :)03:40
Kamping_Kaiserits late in aust03:40
pl_iceKamping_Kaiser 21:40 ;)03:41
Kamping_Kaiser23:11 :)03:41
cefccooke: never asks me any questions, even using -plow, so no difference.03:41
BlueEagle15:4003:41
fullybadyes I 've done it03:41
pl_icewest side :D03:41
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ccookecef: what?03:41
cefccooke: only thing I can think of is that it's broken for nvidia users03:41
Kamping_Kaiserforiener :P03:41
fullybadbut  the second network card is inactiv03:41
Kamping_Kaiserj/k03:41
ccookecef: it should have nothing to do with nvidia.03:41
cefccooke: 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow usplash'03:41
ccookecef: what never aksked you a question?03:41
Kamping_Kaiserfullybad: are tehy both pluged in? so you have set the default gateway?03:42
ccookecef: it doesn't.03:42
fullybadyes03:42
cefccooke: "ccooke> cef: tried the dpkg-reconfigure line?"03:42
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fullybadthey are both plugin'03:42
ccookecef: yes, the one I gave you03:42
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ccookecef: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`03:42
HiddenFlywell, how can i make wget to use multiple servers?03:42
Kamping_Kaiserfullybad: i mean both with cables attached03:42
fullybadand I've seted the default gw03:43
cefahh missed that03:43
Kamping_Kaisernot in the pc :|03:43
fullybadno03:43
fullybadonly one in moment is with cable attached03:43
Kamping_Kaiserok. make sure they are on different networks, and (i just realised) check whats in /etc/resolv.conf03:43
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fullybadI just pluge the second one03:44
pl_icefullybad disable ur fwall, i got 2 netw. and a problem couse ifup one 2nd is not premitted03:44
fullybadand I have two different network cards03:44
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Kamping_Kaiserfullybad: yes, we get that bit03:45
cefccooke: of note: "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...03:45
cef"03:45
ccookecef:where are you getting that?03:45
ccookecef: that sounds like nothing to do with usplash03:46
cefccooke: after running that dpkg-reconfigure line03:46
fullybadhow can i dissable ifup ?03:46
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cefccooke: I know.. just pointing it out03:46
Kamping_Kaiser"... i want to disconnect, i want to break free, i want to cut of the electronic electronic leash...."03:46
pl_iceifdown ...03:46
ccookecef: try rebooting.03:46
BlueEaglekamping_kaiser: No you don't.:P03:46
[LethAL] Kamping_Kaiser, no you don't03:46
fullybadok03:46
Kamping_Kaiserlol03:46
[LethAL] ROFL03:46
fullybadthx03:46
cefccooke: just about to.. bbk03:46
Kamping_Kaisernice boys/gilrs ;)03:47
fullybadI will now lol03:47
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BlueEagle[lethal] : ^503:47
[LethAL] :P03:47
Kamping_Kaiser:D03:47
mattaionhello, i just added k3b, how can i open it ?03:47
apokryphosmattaion: alt+f2 -> k3b03:47
pl_iceALT f203:47
mattaionzhx03:47
mattaionthx03:48
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fullybadwhere can i get a howto about the ifup ifdown issue ?03:48
alumnohola03:48
Seveasman ifup03:48
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fullybadthx03:48
Seveashi alumno03:48
alumnohola03:48
alumnowhat you03:49
egoleohola03:49
fullybadso I going reading now :-)03:49
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pl_iceany one got BIND up and running?03:49
SanderDHi! Would it be a bad idea to try WineCVS? Can I easily undo it to install a .deb version later?03:49
alumnoalguno que hable espaol03:49
[LethAL] Anyone have any ideas why my wireless connection allways thinks it's fine but I occasionally have to unplug my adapter, plug it back in and then ifup it... So I don't think it's cordless phones. Anyon have any other ideas?03:50
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kevorhow to add $a and $b in a bash script? b is 0 and a is 0.00103:50
apokryphosSanderD: I presume it's a simple compile from source, in which case the answer is: yes, most probably.03:50
Kamping_Kaiserpl_ice: i did, but with a lot of hand holding (on another box ;D)03:50
HiddenFlyim trying to install downloader for x, and when i do ./configure i get this error: checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables03:50
HiddenFlyhow to fix that?03:50
apokryphosSanderD: after you make install just make sure you keep the source, and then you can do a make uninstall when you wanna remove it03:50
thenukealumno: #ubuntu-es03:50
searcher`HiddenFly: did you install build-essential?03:50
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pl_ice[LethAL]  join the club :/ maybe it's overheating03:51
SanderDapokryphos: Okay, then I'll try that.03:51
HiddenFlysearcher`: nope, how can i do that?03:51
Kamping_Kaiserkevor: #bash03:51
egoleoinstall the the essential-compilers03:51
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searcher`HiddenFly: apt-get install build-essential03:51
Kamping_KaiserHiddenFly: whats wrong with apt :|03:51
searcher`put sudo in front of that03:51
[LethAL] pl_ice, It doesn't do it in XP... go figure ;)03:51
egoleowhich would include c++ comp03:51
pl_iceKamping_Kaiser need some howto just for easy oneoff setup, on lan only school project03:51
honhow can I downgrade to 2.6.11 ?03:51
pl_ice[LethAL]  dmesg then03:51
cefccooke: worked. thanks. now if only I can stop a number of the lower panel apps from causing issues at bootup.. *sigh*03:51
Kamping_Kaiseryou cant afaik03:51
Kamping_Kaiserpl_ice: not sure i can help :/03:52
Kamping_Kaiserthe 'real easy ' bit is the tricky bit03:52
pl_iceKamping_Kaiser , oki03:52
pl_ice[LethAL]  are u usin acx chip?03:52
[LethAL] pl_ice, rt257003:52
Kamping_Kaiserpl_ice: linuxfromscratch.org has good tutes (skip the compile bits) otherwise, basicly right most of the time03:53
Kamping_Kaisergentoo is another realy good one03:53
honSeveas: how can I downgrade to 2.6.11 ?03:53
Kamping_Kaiserhon i dont think you can03:53
cefok, I need food.. bbk later ppl03:53
searcher`hon: you can, but you'll have to learn how to use pinning in apt03:53
pl_ice[LethAL]  neh i got acx and that happens, try to change ur settings on router, that helped a lot mtu max03:53
honwhat about compiling from source?03:54
searcher`hon: that would work too :-)03:54
[LethAL] pl_ice, I'm pretty sure it can't go higher than what it is now03:54
honI am a simple (minded!) user, which one is easier?03:54
Kamping_Kaiserhon, why do you need the old kernel?03:54
searcher`hon: using apt03:55
honspca5xx driver hangs up for me03:55
apokryphoshon: to downgrade: just install the other kernel (select it from synaptic); if you can't, just remove the old one and then add it in03:55
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pl_ice[LethAL]  how about the other settings? speed of transmition, i changed 3-4 of them, it become more stable o/w dunno03:55
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apokryphoshon: the 2.6.11 will still be used however until you reboot03:55
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apokryphosKamping_Kaiser: 2.6.11 was a known buggy/problematic kernel03:55
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Kamping_Kaiserah ok03:55
honoh! so perhaps I need 2.6.10?03:56
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binawhats colony 5 mean?03:56
apokryphosyes, or -- if you're on breezy -- 2.6.1203:56
pl_iceapokryphos so what's the latest on ubuntu? couse kernel.org got newer that i can find ...03:56
honyep I'm on breezy03:56
apokryphosbina: the Colonies are snapshots of the development work (of breezy)03:56
nitzanany1 can help with wifi problems?03:56
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[LethAL] pl_ice, Maybe taking the machine off the DMZ may help03:56
[LethAL] :P03:56
apokryphospl_ice: newest on ubuntu breezy is 2.6.12; on Hoary 2.6.11 -- but it's recommended you don't use that, really.03:56
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egoleohow do i use my infra red with ubuntu03:57
apokryphosbina: ...on ISOs, that is. See /topic for link.03:57
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binaapokryphos: will do.  thanks03:57
Kamping_Kaiseregoleo: stand on one hand, the wave your right foot right.... then.....etc03:57
pl_ice[LethAL]  don't think so, .. dmz is just coverting u with fwall or not... not good idea...03:57
pl_iceapokryphos ok03:57
apokryphoshon: you want .12, that is.03:57
honso let me give 2.6.12 another try.03:57
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egoleokamping03:58
egoleowhat is that03:58
[LethAL] pl_ice, in the words of ubotu, "NO SPEAKE ENGLISH!"03:58
honbut my machine still hangs when using v4l03:58
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egoleowhat do i need b4 my infrared works03:58
pl_icebed time :/03:59
Kamping_Kaiserpl_ice: jsut a tic03:59
nitzanDoes anyone have drivers for wifi card: ipn2220 ?03:59
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Kamping_Kaiserhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BIND9ServerHowto?highlight=%28bind%29 < pl_ice03:59
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pl_iceKamping_Kaiser thnx03:59
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Kamping_Kaisergood luck :)03:59
pl_iceyeh :)04:00
[LethAL] nitzan, try google ipn2220 linux04:00
egoleoKamping_Kaiser04:00
egoleou gonna help me?04:00
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egoleowith infrared?04:00
pl_iceKamping_Kaiser u gett' popular ;)04:00
coobraim trying : sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5. is there any one that has the same probs  like me i just can installit :/04:00
Kamping_Kaiseregoleo: i havent used it, im trying to find some stuff in teh wiki04:00
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Kamping_Kaiserlol pl_ice04:00
pl_iceegoleo what's wrong?04:00
apokryphoscoobra: it's no longer in hoary-extras04:00
egoleodownload java direct from sun04:01
coobraohh04:01
apokryphoscoobra: you on hoary or breezy?04:01
egoleothen u install it04:01
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coobrahoary :/04:01
apokryphosegoleo: no, there's debs around for it04:01
egoleoyeah04:01
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apokryphoscoobra:  giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs04:01
egoleoi normally download it04:01
forkqueuecoobra: Use make-jpkg from debian unstable04:01
egoleoand fakeroot it04:01
nitzanLOL, i Know to use google - i'm just looking for a .deb pkg04:01
coobraok04:01
forkqueuecoobra: It'll build you a .deb from the Sun .bin04:01
egoleofor it to become and deb file04:01
apokryphoscoobra: download the .deb and dpkg -i <package> -- that's the best/easiest way.04:01
Kamping_Kaiser!infrared04:02
apokryphosforkqueue: no point; there's debs already for it.04:02
[LethAL] nitzan, add the word deb then ;)04:02
ubotuI haven't a clue, Kamping_Kaiser04:02
pl_icec ya04:02
[LethAL] !wiki infrared04:02
Kamping_Kaiserlater mate04:02
coobraok04:02
[LethAL] :/04:02
Kamping_Kaiser:(04:02
egoleoi said i want to know how to use the infrared on ubuntu04:02
whyameyeopenoffice channel is dead. Can anybody help me with a question on hyperlinks in ooimpress? I can't seem to delete/move them or change them in any way.04:02
egoleohow to activate it04:02
Kamping_Kaiseregoleo: i cant find anything on it, so i wont be much use04:03
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apokryphosegoleo: you've said your question about, erm, twenty times =)04:03
egoleook04:03
egoleoso u help04:03
Kamping_Kaiserapart from the laptop testing bit ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting/InfraRedPNP?highlight=%28infrared%2904:03
honwhat was used to compile the kernel in breezy? 4.0.1? or 3.4, ... ?04:03
egoleoyes04:03
Kamping_Kaiserhave fun....04:03
apokryphosegoleo: if someone is able/willing to help, they will04:03
egoleook04:03
Kamping_Kaiserhon, something in 404:03
Kamping_Kaisernot sure exactly04:03
egoleosomeone should04:03
chrisbudden14Hello, the network manager for the panel, for my wireless connection the signal strength keeps changing04:03
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[LethAL] egoleo, try installing irda-utils04:04
chrisbudden14but the connection is still there04:04
[LethAL] chrisbudden14, That's called normality04:04
egoleothnx04:04
egoleoi will04:04
honis it the same version that I receive through apt-get install gcc or not?04:04
chrisbudden14it hasn't been doing it though04:04
chrisbudden14and im in the same place04:04
[LethAL] egoleo, be aware that I've never used IR though04:04
egoleoso sudo apt-get irda-utils?04:04
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egoleook04:04
Kamping_Kaiserhon, in breezy yes04:04
hongood04:04
honthanks04:04
[LethAL] egoleo, sudo apt-get install irda-utils04:04
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egoleook04:04
primoturbohey guys in order to access a mount in gnome what do I need to do04:04
primoturbohow come I cannot open the folder?04:05
Kamping_Kaiserlirc isnt it [LethAL] ?04:05
wesleypeople... i've just installerd the ubuntu ..so i'm seeing that this one is so slow04:05
Kamping_Kaiserprimoturbo: what mount point?04:05
[LethAL] Kamping_Kaiser, I did /exec apt-cache search infrared, dont' blame me :P04:05
wesleyi'm using a notebook hp nx612504:05
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:05
primoturboit's a windows mount04:05
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[LethAL] primoturbo, I have the same problem... not sure about it04:05
egoleothnx04:05
chrisbudden14[LethAL] , any idea why it would suddenly start happening.04:05
Kamping_Kaiserhm. i cant remember the bots entry for windows04:05
fbnwhich package is Places / Network Servers for a bugreport?04:05
Kamping_Kaiser!ntfs04:06
ubotuhmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.04:06
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[LethAL] chrisbudden14, Cordless phones probably04:06
Kamping_Kaiseri expect your problem is perms [LethAL] 04:06
[LethAL] Kamping_Kaiser, so did I04:06
Kamping_Kaiserwe must both be smart ;)04:06
chrisbudden14[LethAL] , it has only just started happening and the connection speed is still there, same as always04:06
[LethAL] chrisbudden14, heat... wireless things get hot04:07
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chrisbudden14i see04:07
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[LethAL] Kamping_Kaiser, I chown'ed the mount point then mounted it... nothing04:08
Kamping_Kaiserah, no, problems with fstab :)04:08
[LethAL] Kamping_Kaiser, of course, I only needed to install some packages so I used sudo -i04:08
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Kamping_Kaiseryou need to add a usermask to the fstab line for the filesystem04:08
[LethAL] Isn't NoName Script for mIRC?04:08
Kamping_Kaiseryeh, afaik04:09
[LethAL] Kamping_Kaiser, you mean user,uid=1000?04:09
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Kamping_Kaiserlooks right, but i forget exactly (thank god - i have no need to remember :D)04:09
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[LethAL] Kamping_Kaiser, I don't really now... I just get the ext2ifs driver if I need something for Ubuntu (i.e. packages to get net access)04:10
catfoxdo echo $UID and add uid=500 (or whatever number) to the fstab04:10
[LethAL] need to now*04:10
chrisbudden14[LethAL] , ironically when i unplug the antenna from the router, the signal strength is better04:10
X3Mhow can I extract *.rar?04:10
Kamping_Kaiser!tell me about fat3204:10
[LethAL] X3M, sudo apt-get install unrar-free04:10
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X3M[LethAL]   thanks04:11
Kamping_Kaiserimo changing ubuntu to point to the winmac FS generator is a bad idea, rather then point to the wiki04:11
[LethAL] X3M, then read the man page for it04:11
catfox[LethAL] , X3M unrar-nonfree?04:11
X3ME: Couldn't find package unrar-free04:11
[LethAL] X3M, nonfree is better but not 'free' :P04:11
[LethAL] X3M, universe iirc04:11
Kamping_Kaiser[LethAL] : what is your filesystem? ntfs or vat32?04:11
CirroXquit04:11
[LethAL] nt04:12
Kamping_Kaiserk04:12
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MaRcIodoes anybody have the psp?04:12
Trashcanyeh04:12
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[LethAL] Argh04:12
[LethAL] Why, anyway?04:12
MaRcIoso why do memory sticks need an adptor?04:12
Trashcanit takes the Duo format04:13
MaRcIobut does it stretch out the consolle?04:13
Trashcani think the adaptor is for USB-plug-in-your-memory-stick04:13
Trashcan</offtopic>04:13
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Kamping_KaiserTrashcan: o_0 weird nic :)04:14
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Trashcan:)04:14
Kamping_Kaiser</ot>04:14
Kamping_Kaiser;)04:14
Trashcan;p04:14
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:14
Trashcanprocess execution in python is really annoying04:14
MaRcIoi didn't start with <ot> so there is a programming error in this chan04:15
[LethAL] A rather big one :P04:15
[LethAL] !ot04:15
ubotuI haven't a clue, [LethAL] 04:15
Trashcanhtml isn't programming :p04:15
jjazzI would like to disable all suspending and hibernation on this laptop, since it doesn't come back from sleeping.  How can I tell this box never to suspend or sleep (blanking the screen is ok, though)?04:15
Kamping_Kaiserbetter tell the bot about it :O04:15
[LethAL] Damn... I wanted it to say Syntax error in line 104:15
Kamping_Kaiserlol Trashcan04:15
MaRcIois it safe to buy from hong kong sellers on ebay?04:15
GNULinuxerwhat is the time server of ubuntu?04:15
Kamping_KaiserMaRcIo: *thats* OT04:15
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Trashcannope- you buy a memory stick, and they sell you a child with no shoes04:16
[LethAL] GNULinuxer, ntp.ubuntulinux.org iirc04:16
MaRcIoahah04:16
Kamping_Kaiserthats right04:16
GNULinuxer[LethAL] : it's not up IMO04:16
MaRcIoif anybody want's to speak bout psp pls join # psp04:16
Trashcanlol04:16
Kamping_Kaiserno, its not up (not pinging)04:16
GNULinuxerKamping_Kaiser: yeah04:16
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MaRcIoit is up..04:17
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GNULinuxerKamping_Kaiser: any other clock server?04:17
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MaRcIoyou should remove the space04:17
Kamping_Kaiserntp.pool.org iirc04:17
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MaRcIohow geek are u from 9 to 10?04:17
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[LethAL] time.nist.gov04:17
Trashcanso who wants to reorder my boot process so that PCMCIA starts up before ntp? :D04:17
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ccookeKamping_Kaiser: pool.ntp.org :-)04:17
Kamping_Kaiserthanks ccooke :D04:18
MaRcIoyeeeeeeeaaaaaaa it rains!!!!!04:18
MaRcIoso i won't go to basketball today!!04:18
Kamping_KaiserTrashcan: /etc/init.d/rc.d*/ - have fun :D04:18
[LethAL] LOL04:18
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SeveasMaRcIo, take off topic things elsewhere04:18
MaRcIoi tought [LethAL]  was havin fun04:19
[LethAL] I was?04:19
MaRcIoi think so04:19
MaRcIou called me04:19
[LethAL] Oh yeah, I've played gltron a few times today :P04:19
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Kamping_Kaiser:)04:19
Kamping_Kaiserharsh04:19
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=== Kamping_Kaiser leet haxors ntp config
[LethAL] ?04:21
Kamping_Kaiserchanging my ntp servers04:21
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[LethAL] Ah04:21
[LethAL] Where can you do that?04:22
[LethAL] Oh... nm04:22
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Kamping_Kaiser /etc/default/ntpdate04:22
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[LethAL] Kamping_Kaiser, or time-admin :P04:22
Kamping_Kaisera gui? BLEH :p04:22
[LethAL] Somehow I don't think 127.127.1.0 is a read time server :S04:22
Zeke1how do u set up your IP address in a terminal04:22
[LethAL] real*04:22
Kamping_KaiserZeke1: ifconfig04:22
[LethAL] Zeke1, sudo ifconfig <interfeace> ip04:23
[LethAL] interface*04:23
doubleukaytest04:23
doubleukay /etc/ntp.conf if you're using ntpd --> [04/10 00:21]  Kamping_Kaiser: changing my ntp servers04:23
Kamping_Kaiserta04:23
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doubleukaythat's the loopback clock driver --> Somehow I don't think 127.127.1.0 is a read time server :S04:23
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Zeke1and your mask?04:24
Kamping_Kaiserdont bother, but just add it in after the ip04:24
[LethAL] 127.127.1.0 = loopback? Since when?04:24
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ccooke[LethAL] : 127.0.0.0/8 is loopback. Traditionally, 127.0.0.1 is brought up and assigned the hostname 'localhost'04:25
doubleukay[LethAL] , for NTPd, 127.127.x.y refers to the local clock drivers04:25
doubleukayhttp://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/refclock.html04:25
ccooke[LethAL] : but really the entire /8 is loopback IP space04:25
[LethAL] ccc_, I thought it was actually only 1 IP...04:25
doubleukayjust a convention they use.04:25
[LethAL] ccooke*04:25
Kamping_Kaiserso i could use the other loopback addys for stuff... .hm....04:26
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ccookeKamping_Kaiser: sure. 16.7 milli of them.04:26
doubleukayuhh okay..04:26
[LethAL] Kamping_Kaiser, whatever you do, make sure the starting IP is 127.0.0.1 :D04:26
doubleukayg'day and g'night.04:26
Kamping_Kaiserlol doubleukay04:26
Kamping_Kaiserlater mate04:26
Kamping_Kaiser[LethAL] : :D if you insist04:26
Kamping_Kaiseror i could make it '101' :D04:27
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[LethAL] Or 0.0.0.004:27
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Kamping_Kaiseror 10.0.0.1 :o04:27
spolaheh04:27
Kamping_Kaiserstarts with 1 as well :)04:27
[LethAL] Or ::1/128 :D04:28
Kamping_Kaiseripv6? :|04:28
[LethAL] Ya04:28
[LethAL] O.O04:28
[LethAL] My WLAN adapter's ipv6 addy disappeared :S04:29
Kamping_Kaiserall evil maniacs should look *backwards* for inspiration04:29
Kamping_Kaisernot forwards :\] 04:29
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:29
Kamping_KaiserLMOA04:29
[LethAL] 9600 baud modems?04:29
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Kamping_Kaiseryeh, forming clusters of comodore 6404:30
Kamping_Kaisers04:30
[LethAL] LOL04:30
MikeCamelHi, all.  Weird problem.  Just noticed that I can't get a GB pound sign on my UK keyboards today.  Shift-3 just gives "3"04:30
Kamping_Kaiserim good at this evil maniac thing ;)04:30
[LethAL] MikeCamel, System, Prefences, Keyboard04:30
Kamping_Kaiserhm. someone on the email list had this issue, but i dont remember how he fixed it :(04:30
slibsmaybe you guys can tell me, does my ubuntu use .xinitrc or .xsession?04:31
slibsby default of course04:31
[LethAL] Kamping_Kaiser, I never did, I told setup that I had a UK keyboard :P04:31
spolais there anyway i can get my firefox bookmarks in the top gnome menu?04:31
Kamping_Kaiser[LethAL] : i dont use a UK kebd :)04:31
[LethAL] Kamping_Kaiser, no, but I do04:31
Kamping_Kaiserslibs: .xsession iirc04:31
Kamping_Kaiser;)04:31
MikeCamelLethAL - do I need to restart X?04:31
Kamping_Kaiserspola: not that i know of04:32
[LethAL] MikeCamel, I don't think so04:32
slibsKamping_Kaiser: thanks ;)04:32
MikeCamelI told setup I had a UK keyboard, and it's the only one listed.  I've now made it default.04:32
Kamping_Kaiser:)04:32
[LethAL] Kamping_Kaiser, I use a MS inet keyboard :(04:32
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[LethAL] lol04:32
Kamping_Kaiserone thing ms do right, kbds and rodents04:32
[LethAL] MS do rodents? :O04:33
Kamping_Kaiseryeh :O04:33
[LethAL] I like my BenQ rodent :P04:33
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[LethAL] Has a tail though :(04:33
=== Kamping_Kaiser has a 2button ms rodent + kbd combo
Kamping_Kaisertails are sexy :)04:33
Zeke1how do you set up your gateway ip in a terminal? :)04:33
Kamping_KaiserZeke1: do you want these settings to stick?04:33
[LethAL] Zeke1, sudo route add default gw <ip>04:33
Kamping_Kaiseror are they one off?04:33
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MikeCameldoesn't seem to have helped.  still no pound sign.04:34
[LethAL] :P04:34
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:34
MikeCamel33304:34
[LethAL] 04:34
Kamping_Kaiseri should map a key, just to be mean :D04:34
[LethAL] That's with Alt-Gr... O.O04:34
MikeCamelmight try restarting X.  anyway to do that without a restart?04:34
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[LethAL] Ctrl-Alt-Backspace after logout04:34
MikeCamelcya04:34
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Zeke1Kamping_Kaiser, what do u mean stick?04:35
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[LethAL] Zeke1, When you reboot, they stay there04:35
Kamping_KaiserZeke1: after you reboot, do you want to use these settings again?04:35
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[LethAL] ^^04:35
Kamping_Kaiser:D04:35
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butcherbirdhow do i get bash to treat ! as text and not a command?  if i do something like echo "#!/usr/bin/python" >> script.py. It will not work04:36
ccookebutcherbird: \!04:36
kalyanbutherbird put it in single quotes04:36
butcherbirdccooke: ah thx04:36
ccookeah, wait04:36
ccookeyou need that line as the *very first thing* in your file04:36
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ccookeand the file needs to be marked executable04:37
gandhi all04:37
benkong2hey isn't apt supposed to solve dependencies? "The following packages have unmet dependencies:04:37
benkong2 rubrica: Depends: libxslt1-python2.4 but it is not installable" is the error I get when trying to install Rubrica any thoughts?04:37
ccooke(chmod +x filename)04:37
kennethlovewhy do i get a ( when i type shift-8?04:37
nalioth_wrknbenkong2: use apt to build the file04:37
Kamping_Kaiserbenkong2: it will try and resolv deps04:38
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[LethAL] kennethlove, because your keyboard is mapped incorrectly04:38
Trashcanwas some major thing just released?04:38
Trashcani have like 500 updates pending04:38
kennethlove[LethAL] : yeah, i guessed that. i did not change anything though.04:38
Trashcanfrom 5 minutes ago04:38
benkong2nalioth_wrkn; use apt to build the file?04:38
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Trashcan54 updates actually04:38
Zeke1Kamping_Kaiser,  no not really04:38
benkong2Kamping_Kaiser; thanks04:38
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[LethAL] kennethlove, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace maybe :P04:38
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shad0w1ewhen is the real breezy coming out??04:39
Zeke1ok one more question...how do i setup dhcp in a terminal....not a server04:39
[LethAL] shad0w1e, 13th04:39
naliothbenkong2: "sudo apt-get build-dep libxslt1-python2.4 && sudo apt-get -b source libxslt1-python2.4"04:39
Kamping_Kaiser13th04:39
[LethAL] Zeke1, you mean dhclient?04:39
benkong2nalioth; k04:39
shad0w1e[LethAL] , thanks!04:39
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Zeke1[LethAL] , well yeah so my NIC obtains an IP from my dhcp server04:40
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gandcan I install Java SDK on PPC?04:40
Kamping_Kaiseri dont like that keyboared changeing tool. i cant do custom key maps :(04:40
naliothgand: yes04:40
[LethAL] Zeke1, that's what it does04:40
gandwith apt get?04:40
naliothgand: no. use this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC04:40
[LethAL] Zeke1, just sudo dhclient and it'll try to get DHCPOFFER's04:40
Zeke1but i have an IP set up for my NIC manually how do i set it so it obtains ip from DHCP server04:40
Zeke1ok04:41
gandthank04:41
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[LethAL] Zeke1, then you can change it in network-admin ;004:41
[LethAL] ;)*04:41
benkong2nalioth; can my repos be incorrect? "E: Unable to find a source package for libxslt1-python2.4"04:41
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naliothubotu: tell benkong2 about sources04:42
naliothbenkong2: quite possibly yes04:42
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benkong2nalioth; thanks04:42
apokryphosbenkong2: hoary or breezy?04:42
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apokryphosthe one in hoary is a dummy, and I don't believe that version exists in breezy04:43
benkong2apokryphos; breezy04:43
collins21will ltsp be included in the breezy release or will that only be in edubuntu04:43
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Xmarceliam a beginner: how can i save the windowposition under kde?04:43
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Kamping_Kaisercollins21: a form of ltsp is included04:43
collins21and has anyone been successful in installing skype in breezy without it saying broken?04:43
Kamping_KaiserXmarcel: try #kubuntu, might have better luck04:43
apokryphosXmarcel: alt+f3 -> Advanced -> Special window settings04:43
collins21where?04:43
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collins21i installed the preview version last night04:44
gandthank nalioth, I need to install then Tomcat, I hope it will work04:44
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apokryphosXmarcel: or you can often use a --geometry option from command-line04:44
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Xmarcelthx a lot ;-)04:44
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BiSK-8hello04:46
BiSK-8Please make sure that you have installed all necessary GStreamer plugins (e.g. OGG and MP3), and run 'gst-register' afterwards.04:46
BiSK-8sorry04:46
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BiSK-8i got a problem with amarok: when i go and select the engine it tells me: GStreamer is missing a registry.04:46
BiSK-8Please make sure that you have installed all necessary GStreamer plugins (e.g. OGG and MP3), and run 'gst-register' afterwards.04:46
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apokryphosBiSK-8: well, do you have them?04:46
apokryphosBiSK-8: though I personally pretty much always use the xine engine04:47
BiSK-8no i dont04:47
Kamping_Kaiserand are you running -6404:47
BiSK-8i dont know how to run gst-register04:47
primoturbowhich package do I need to be able to compile c++04:48
primoturboI need gcc/c++04:48
BiSK-8no04:48
Kamping_Kaiserbuild-essentials04:48
BiSK-8exactly04:48
BiSK-8so04:48
apokryphosBiSK-8: /msg ubotu restricted04:48
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BiSK-8apokryphos, what should i do?04:48
collins21also terminal seems to be awol in gnome menus in breezy04:48
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apokryphosBiSK-8: that04:48
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nomedi compiled the breezy kernel with gcc-3.4 but it seems i have still the same errors .. Unknown Symbol on modprobe module (eg: sbp2|ide-cd)04:48
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[LethAL] collins21, it's in Applications04:49
kennethlovegoddamn keyboard is still messed up.04:49
apokryphosBiSK-8: if you reallly want to use the gstreamer engine, that is...04:49
[LethAL] Accesories*04:49
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BiSK-8and how can i use other engines?04:49
naliothwhat is the pkg called? nautilus-plugin- what?04:49
nomedi load the kernel with grub on a cdrom .. is it possible that those errors are related to System.map file ?04:49
apokryphosBiSK-8: sudo aptitude install amarok-engines04:49
BiSK-8ok04:49
BiSK-8thx04:49
inc|freakyfreestyle 4 ever :D04:49
apokryphosBiSK-8: I'm off for now; if you have more problems drop a line in #kubuntu and you'll probably get help04:49
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primoturbothnx getting the c++ now04:49
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bob2nomed: that probably means you're trying to load modules built for the actual ubuntu kernel04:49
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bob2nomed: also, the ubuntu kernel includes usplash04:49
BiSK-8thx alot guys04:49
BiSK-8and04:50
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primoturbodoes anyone know where I can get libSDL from04:50
BiSK-8another question04:50
primoturbois there a package for libSDL04:50
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primoturboor SDL04:50
BiSK-8when will breezy be considered stable?04:50
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nomedbob2, i'm waiting for breezy release to use usplash04:50
Kamping_Kaiser13th04:50
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bob2primoturbo: er, of course04:50
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bob2primoturbo: apt-cache search libsdl04:50
Kamping_Kaiseror the week after, when the patches com in ;)04:50
BiSK-8ok04:51
BiSK-8perfect04:51
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zAo^how do I remove my Gnome-settings? (eg. theme)04:51
kennethloveanyone know how i can fix this?04:51
BiSK-8and to update to the stable version from the beta version what must i do?04:51
kennethlove( for *04:51
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bob2BiSK-8: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes04:51
bob2nomed: waiting 9 days seems like a lot less hassle04:51
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BiSK-8ok04:52
BiSK-8and how can i make amarok my default media player?04:52
collins21never mind re terminal - figured it out :)04:52
TellariteI'm using "checkinstall" ... anyone ever seen this error? package architecture (x86_64) does not match system (amd64)04:52
No1Viking!tell me about breezy04:53
BiSK-8argh04:53
zAo^anyone know how I reset my Gnome-settings to default?04:53
BiSK-8amarok wont play any files04:53
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bob2BiSK-8: #kubuntu04:53
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BiSK-8kubuntu?04:53
BiSK-8why?04:53
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BiSK-8im on gnome04:54
bob2awesome04:54
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kennethloveamarok is a kde app, thought.04:54
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kennethlove(though)04:54
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BiSK-8argh04:54
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BiSK-8but it will wok on gnome right?04:54
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kennethloveso long as you have the kde libraries installed, yes.04:54
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[LethAL] BiSK-8, it will work, just won't look nice04:54
BiSK-8i c04:55
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nomedbob2, CONFIG_IEEE1394_SBP2=m .. and with modprobe sbp2 i have the Symbol Unknow error .. do you know what can it be?04:55
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bob2nomed: this sounds like you're just not building the kernel properly04:56
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scorpix_i can't upgrade/run firefox, i got this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GdZXha42.htm04:57
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scorpix_in Hoary04:57
poningruI had a question04:58
poningruwhy is xpdf the default instead of evince?04:58
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Kamping_Kaiserponingru: it is not in breezy iirc04:58
ccookeponingru: evince is the default in Breezy04:58
poningruawesome04:58
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poningrucause I just installed evince and got preview and loads faster too04:59
Kamping_Kaiseror, sorry, i got that wrong " its not in HOARY iirc"04:59
bob2nomed: make sure you're setting a suffix with make-kpkg04:59
tombshi ppl04:59
Kamping_Kaiserhi04:59
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kennethloveanyone have any idea why my keyboard layout would be screwed up? i'm using synergy2 to share a keyboard. the connected one works fine but the shared one doesn't.05:00
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kennethloveshared one turns * into ( and other weirdness.05:01
LootBeerwhy is it that i configre,make,installed xcdroast... but when i launch it it gives me error msgs?05:01
nomedbob2 make-kpkg kernel_image (/usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-3.4 )05:01
kennethloveand it has been working fine until today.05:01
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bob2nomed: what?05:01
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bob2nomed: --append-to-version05:01
nomedbob2, the cmd i use to generate the kernel deb pkge05:01
nomedok05:01
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Hendrichow do i reconfigure the kernel (i plugged my ubuntu hardrive on another PC)???05:03
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nomedbob2, what can it change if i use nomed: --append-to-version ? :/05:04
robbkiddNow, here's an odd occurance:  using the Badger, lowercase, italic "r" does not italicize in Firefox.  Specifically, I see this on Slashdot in the main page story summaries.05:04
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p0windahrobbkidd: fonts ?05:05
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robbkiddStandby, checking.05:05
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robbkiddThe system default: "sans".05:05
Hendrichow do i reconfigure the kernel??? (coz i plugged my ubuntu hardrive on another PC)05:06
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robbkiddChecking other applications ...05:06
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p0windahrobbkidd: could also be an encoding issue05:06
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kalyanI keep getting unauthenticated packages when i try to do upgrade for breezy05:07
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kennethloveno ideas on my keyboard issue?05:07
Kamping_KaiserHendric: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image ? nfi tbh05:07
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collins21odd i see the packages for ltsp on the archives but I don't see it install on the system?  any ideas?05:07
robbkiddp0windah: Could be.  Only seems to be happening in Firefox.  I'll see if I can find an italicized lowercase r on another site.05:07
yorQuestion: I have recently installed Breezy. I have a USB2.0 mp3 player, but my very old PC has usb 1.1. But transfering files is EXTREMELY fast! It is unbelieveable. What has happened? I have never seen USB 1.1 work this great ever!05:07
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Kamping_Kaisercollins21: its not part of a default install05:07
tritiumHendric: what are you wanting to reconfigure, specifically?05:08
VeRiTToHI05:08
Kamping_Kaiserhi05:08
VeRiTToAnybody speak spanish?05:08
collins21ok...05:08
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vitriolanybody know of any good e17 repositories for breezy?05:08
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Hendriceverything for the new hardware05:08
kalyanguys any idea to get rid of unauthenticated packages for dist-upgrade in breezy badger?05:08
clastanyone using gnucash on breezy?05:08
Kamping_KaiserVeRiTTo: dont think so05:08
Kamping_Kaiseri think they all got banished to the -es chan ;)05:08
[LethAL] VeRiTTo, the people in #ubuntu-es do05:08
Kamping_Kaiseryay. i beat [LethAL]  for once :D05:09
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VeRiTToThanks05:09
[LethAL] :(05:09
LootBeerhows ubuntu better than debian??05:09
Kamping_Kaiser:D05:09
Kamping_Kaisersmaller install05:09
Kamping_Kaiserrunning quicker05:09
[LethAL] LootBeer, Less coffe mats05:09
ccookeLootBeer: wrong question.05:09
[LethAL] coffee mats*05:09
ccookeLootBeer: It's not. It's just different05:09
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tritiumHendric: you don't need to reconfigure the kernel.  If you're using a stock ubuntu kernel, the appropriate modules will be loaded.  Is there a problem/05:09
yorHas some genius figured out a way to emulate USB2.0 with USB1.1? I can transfer 80 megs in a few seconds with Breezy05:09
VeRiTToNObody answer me05:09
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tritium?05:09
Kamping_KaiserLootBeer: they both have their places05:09
ccookeLootBeer: If you want a desktop environment, Ubuntu is better.05:09
VeRiTToHelp me please05:10
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ccookeif you want a server, Debian is better.05:10
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Kamping_Kaiseryor: i doubt it, but its possible. i expect its the cacheing05:10
p0windahLootBeer: you still around ?05:10
LootBeeri do.. but im only running 233mhz , 64mb ram pc05:10
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Valohas there been any recent issues with sudo?05:10
robbkiddp0windah: Happens at other sites, too.05:10
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VeRiTToI will try to tell you my problem05:10
tritiumccooke: that's your opinion, of course05:10
yaaarword05:10
yaaarcan anybody enlighten me on the benefits of using nfs vs samba? i only have linux machines here....but on the other hand, i've never used nfs05:10
yaaaralso, is there a third alternative i should be considering? i'm hoping to share a 1.2TB raid05:10
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ccooketritium: whose else would it be?05:10
Hendrictritium, my DVD, CDRW drives on the previous pc are still shown as existing even if its false on the new PC.05:10
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MikeCamelstill having problems with pound signs, even after reboot.  anyeon?05:11
ccooketritium: You disagree with me?05:11
p0windahrobbkidd: check fonts installed, your locale settings and also have a look at what defaults encodings firefox is guessing for you05:11
naliothyaaar: nfs is a *nix standard and is fairly bulletproof05:11
VeRiTToI have to install vsftpd in my pc, but my pc is not on internet05:11
Kamping_Kaiseryaaar: use nfs, its native05:11
tritiumccooke: I didn't say it would be someone elses.  The point is that it's arguable.05:11
yorKamping_Kaiser, I have unmounted the volume right after transferring. There is no lag at all. It works as fast as USB2.0 does on the computer of a friend of mine. I have never seen anything like it. In Hoary it was extremely slow (and in WinXP as well)...05:11
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robbkiddp0windah: Do you not see the same thing?05:11
naliothyaaar: samba is a condesension to windowd standards05:11
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twoctsevenOkay, I have not been able to get sound at all. Nothing when I login05:11
twoctsevenCannot play .wav files or mp3 files. I have installed all of the media codecs as directed in the unoffical guide05:11
twoctsevenThe machine i'm using is a laptop,05:11
twoctsevenThe choices of devices I have are: Inel-82801DB-ICH4 (Asla Mixer)05:11
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twoctsevenAnalog Device AD1981B (OSS Mixer)05:11
Kamping_Kaiseryor: spose your lucky :)05:11
twoctsevenI have tried with both devices and none worked for some reason.05:11
clastanyone using gnucash on breezy?05:11
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twoctsevenI have no idea why this is happening, I have done everything the Unnofical FAQ said to do to "Fix Sound" I would appericate any sort of help for this, THanks.05:11
tritiumHendric: what do you have listed in /etc/fstab?05:11
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ccooketritium: of course it is. Who said it wasn't?05:11
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PelalilHas anyone got a good way to store essid and wep key pairs in /etc/network/interfaces, so that it just work without any extra mapping scripts, (atm i have various pairs commented, and when needed, i uncomment the right one)05:12
Quinthiustwoctseven: spamming is bad.05:12
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p0windahrobbkidd: I'm not in ubuntu right now, but I've similar problems in the past with eng+chinese machines I've setup05:12
twoctsevenspam is the output of worthless information.05:12
yorKamping_Kaiser, yep, it is really great! I just wanted to know if anyone has heard of a USB tweak implemented in Breezy. I am SOOO glad I ditched windows for Ubuntu ;)05:12
poningrutwoctseven: have you tried the official faq?05:12
twoctsevenyes05:12
chapeaurougePelalil, tried wifi-radar ?05:12
yaaarnalioth; yeah, i knew that much.......but i've also used samba a lot of times and found it to be "bulletproof" as well. are there benchmarks anyplace or anything like that? is one of them demonstrably higher performance?05:12
poningru!tell twoctseven about sound05:12
twoctsevenI have tried the fix sound thing on the unoffical FAQ05:12
Quinthiustwoctseven: spam is also 7 lines of text in less than 2 seconds05:12
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Kamping_Kaiseryor: :D i almost wish i had some usb things to try with :)05:12
twoctseveni've trid that already, poniguru05:12
tritiumccooke: relax.  I merely commented on your statement.05:12
poningrutwoctseven: ic05:12
sepmikeanyone tried a ga311 with breezy?05:13
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ccooketritium: fair enough05:13
Pelalilchapeaurouge: nope, ill give it a look, thanks05:13
VeRiTTo[Kamping_Kaiser]  read me05:13
primoturbohow can I set my desktop to be 8bit color?05:13
primoturboany ideas?05:13
sepmikeI'm having speed issues05:13
Hendrictritium, it shows my non existent drives05:13
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tritiumHendric: that's your problem, not the kernel05:13
butcherbirdVeRiTTo: you could always just download the binary or source.  vsftpd is a pretty painless install05:13
robbkiddp0windah: Alrightie.  You suggest just changing the default to see what happens?  My default is en-us with encoding set to 8859-1.  Seems right to me.05:13
Kamping_KaiserVeRiTTo: whats that?05:13
p0windahspent a little time this evening looking at some of the luminocity stuff and noticed its already in the breezy roadmap... very exciting05:13
primoturboguys where do I edit the color depth of my monitor?05:13
primoturboI need to do this for this http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/05:14
tritiumprimoturbo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:14
Kamping_Kaiserxorg.conf iirc05:14
p0windahrobbkidd: if its 8859, try switching to UTF-805:14
yorKamping_Kaiser, do try if you have the chance. You will be surprised I am sure. I am running Ubuntu on a PC I built seven years ago. It may work even better on newer hardware :)05:14
Hendrictritium, so reconfiguring the kernel won't fix it?05:14
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tritiumprimoturbo: which, in turn, edits /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:14
Kamping_Kaiser:)05:14
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primoturboI see05:14
primoturbothnx05:14
VeRiTTovsftpd -->> Very Security ftp Daemon05:14
tritiumbut you don't typically want to edit that by hand.  use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:14
VeRiTToMy pc is not on internet05:14
tritiumHendric: edit /etc/fstab05:14
zAo^update-notifier uses 35% cpu; is this normal??05:14
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Hendrictritium, ok ok05:14
p0windahzAo^: only if you want to be05:15
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Kamping_KaiserVeRiTTo: you cant connect from the outside?05:15
Gnucleari cant boot using this CD "ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso"- is it the wrong one?05:15
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Kamping_KaiserGnuclear: did you burn it bootable?05:15
Kamping_Kaiserits the right one05:15
p0windahGnuclear: that should boot, you double checked bios and also tried it on another PC with different CD drive ?05:15
Gnuclearyou mean burn as ISO right?05:15
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p0windahheh05:15
KlinkMeisterIs there an easy way to install themes it seems really complicated05:16
abarbacciahey - anybody here use audacity without it crashing on them?05:16
Kamping_Kaiseryours p0windah05:16
ValoWhy does sudo fail to do anything (ie. "sudo touch cookie") but gksu works (ie. "gksu touch cookie") :/05:16
p0windahKlinkMeister: synaptic is the easiest way right now05:16
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QuinthiusKlinkMeister: what's complicated about extracting a theme to /usr/share/themes or ~/.themes?05:16
KlinkMeistercant get them to work05:16
Hendric tritium, why is that when i open "Network Servers" it asks me for a password on a given domain blah blah.. i didn't set any.. and the only PC i can browse are the ones with windows.. am using samba.05:16
VeRiTToI download package for vsftpd but05:16
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Darknighthello05:16
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Kamping_Kaiserhi Darknight05:16
VeRiTToroot@veritto:/ # apt-get install vsftpd05:16
VeRiTToReading package lists... Done05:16
VeRiTToBuilding dependency tree... Done05:16
VeRiTToE: Couldn't find package vsftpd05:16
leroji though you installed themes by dragging the .tar's and dropping them in the theme window...05:17
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VeRiTToThat is the problem05:17
naliothVeRiTTo: do not paste in here05:17
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robbkiddp0windah: I've switched to a few different Western encodings, with no change.  If I change Firefox's sans font to something other that the system's "sans" (like Arial), r's italicize appropriately.05:17
Darknightanyone here know what to do to setup prolink tv tuner in breezy?05:17
butcherbirdKlinkMeister: art.gnome.org has a pretty strait forward faq05:17
Kamping_Kaiserok VeRiTTo05:17
naliothVeRiTTo: use #flood or a pastebin (read the /topic)05:17
VeRiTTo[nalioth]  sorry05:17
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VeRiTToups05:17
Kamping_Kaiserif you apt-get update first does it help?05:17
primoturbookay I edited xorg.conf how do I make my computer use it?05:17
VeRiTToI didn't know it05:17
primoturbohow do I restart it so I use 8bits05:17
p0windahrobbkidd: I guess the quickest way to check if its firefox being silly is; copying some text from firefox into openoffice or gedit05:18
Quinthiusprimoturbo: log out, then hit ctrl-alt-F1 and login at the console, then do: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart05:18
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tritiumHendric: hard to say05:18
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primoturbowhat does the last line do05:18
paulproteusprimoturbo: Restart gdm.05:18
paulproteusFrom a a terminal, do : /etc/init.d/gdm stop ; /etc/init.d/gdm start05:18
AnswerQuestion: How do I get the last command issued from the history?05:18
robbkiddp0windah: The system font "sans" doesn't seem to be available in OpenOffice.05:18
paulproteusAnswer: Press <UP> on the keyboard.05:18
yaaarprimoturbo: or, quick/dirty way, just hit ctrl-alt-backspc05:18
Quinthiuspaulproteus: why stop and start instead of restart?05:18
Kamping_KaiserVeRiTTo: run 'apt-get update && apt-get install vsftpd' without the 's05:19
p0windahrobbkidd: thats abnormal05:19
benkong2what are the disadvantages to running the hoary backports repos in breezy sources.list?05:19
paulproteusQuinthius: That way I get to see a little bit more output.05:19
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robbkiddp0wnidah: Abnormal is fun.05:19
Answerpaulproteus: How can I do that from a shell script?05:19
paulproteusAnswer: Oh.05:19
p0windahno, unusual is fun05:19
Quinthiusyaaar: that way isn't very elegant and i don't think it gives programs a chance to close properly..05:19
paulproteusAnswer: I don't know, I'm afraid.05:19
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yaaarAnswer: you don't want to do that. your history changes all the time, so you don't want to write a script expecting something in particular to be in the history buffer05:20
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yaaarQuinthius: you'll note I said "quick/dirty" right?05:20
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Answeryaaar: I do want to do that.  How do I get the last command issued ?05:20
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kennethlove*sigh* anyone have any ideas on my keyboard problems?05:21
Gnuclearyeah, Kamping_Kaiser - wasted 4 cds already...and i burnt it as ISO05:21
AnswerQuestion: How do I get the last command issued from the history?05:21
Nermalup arrow05:21
Kamping_Kaiserup key05:21
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AnswerQuestion: How do I get the last command issued from the history, from a shell script, without using UP Arrow05:21
p0windahpress up twice, down once, left once, up three times, then down twice05:22
kafeinewhy can't I find wxpython in the breezy repos?05:22
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Nermaltail -n ~/.bash_history05:22
QuinthiusAnswer: man bash05:22
dreamwaveAnswer, !!05:22
Nermaltail -n 1 ~/.bash_history05:22
VeRiTToI come back, thanks05:22
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Gnuclearafter downloading, how can i check whether it downloaded properly...am using windows...there's an md5sumcheck thingy right?05:22
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yaaarup,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,b,a,b,a,start05:22
kennethloveup, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, a, b, select, start05:22
egoleocheck ur bash_history05:22
yaaarkennethlove: beat ya05:22
yaaar!05:22
ubotuNo idea, yaaar05:22
kennethloveyaaar: so.05:22
AnswerNermal:  .bash_history does not appear to have all the commands.05:22
[LethAL] O.o05:22
NermalAnswer: not surprised05:22
yaaarhehe05:22
kennethlove:)05:22
dreamwaveAnswer, i think it gets updated when you exit the shell05:23
p0windahAnswer: it gets updated when you close your session05:23
yaaarAnswer: it probably won't contain *any* of the commands run from scripts05:23
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AnswerQuestion: How do I get the last command issued from the history, from a shell script, without using UP Arrow or .bash_history?05:23
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Hendriccan anyone help me on wat to use to share files between my ubuntu PCs.. that works like windows net neighborhood..05:23
ccookeAnswer: what is the problem you're trying to solve?05:23
naliothHendric: use NFS05:24
Hendrici can't seem to see other linux PC using samba..05:24
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ccookeAnswer: you can get the last thing *typed* - history | tail -105:24
[LethAL] !nfs05:24
ubotumethinks nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.05:24
naliothHendric: samba is for lookin at windows boxen05:24
QuinthiusAnswer: !! as someone already said. there is also a history command. man bash.05:24
Answerccooke:  When users issue certain commands I want to capture them instead of executing, with something like an alias that runs a script05:24
[LethAL] Hendric, those two links ^^05:24
p0windahHendric: type in a terminal "set"05:24
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ccookeAnswer: ... capture them?05:24
yaaarAnswer: 1)we have all seen your question. no need to repeat yourself so much. 2)we don't know how to go about that, because no one ever wants to do that. 3)you probably want to do something different.05:24
Hendrici'll try..05:24
[LethAL] ccooke, log I think05:25
ccookeAnswer: you want to make certain commands do something else, basically?05:25
Answeryaaar: You are not being helpful.05:25
kafeinenalioth, and why not use it for connecting x boxes?05:25
Answerccooke: Yes, to intercept potentially harmful commands like rm *05:25
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yaaarAnswer: you are being annoying.05:25
[LethAL] kafeine, being nfs is better05:25
[LethAL] because*05:25
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ccookeAnswer: what would you want to do with them, afterwards?05:25
ccookeAndo you want to run the command after logging it?05:25
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naliothkafeine: because smb is a windows protocol, and NFS is a *nix protocol05:25
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kennethlovestill looking for help with my keyboard.05:26
Answerccooke: No, email it to an administrator with whoami and date05:26
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kafeinekhm05:26
Answerccooke: and pwd also05:26
kafeinethat's not exactly a reason..05:26
naliothkafeine: windows = unstable and crappy *nix = 30 + years of stability05:26
p0windahdoes he know about user and group level security ?05:26
ccookeAnswer: okay. The simplest answer is "you can't"05:26
yaaarAnswer: in that case you probably just want to continuously grep everyone's histories.05:26
p0windahmaybe he thinks this is windows and anyone can do anything to the filesystem they want...05:26
ccookeyaaar: does no good.05:26
yaaarAnswer: or grep "ps waux"05:26
yaaarccooke: why not?05:26
Answerccooke:  It is easy to alias rm to run a script that executes various commands, I just want to capture the command the user entered in that script.05:26
kafeinei get the idea, yes, still, smb works rather nice between all kinds of boxes05:26
Darknightnobody knows about tv tuners in breezy?05:27
ccookeyaar: start a shell. type "echo This". type kill -9 $$.05:27
tritiumDarknight: what about them/05:27
kafeineand you don't have to set up the connection twice if you accidentally need to share with with a win box05:27
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ccookeyaaar: start a second shell. Look for 'echo This' ion the history. You won't find it.05:27
tritiumdamn flaky shift key...05:27
QuinthiusAnswer: can't you use $0, $1, etc. to refer to arguments passed to a script?05:27
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Darknighttritium, i dont know what to do to setup my prolink05:27
yaaarccooke: saying "it won't work in every case" is not the same as saying "it's useless"05:27
p0windahAnswer: so rename the rm binary, write your own rm script and be done with it05:27
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naliothkafeine: nfs is simpler, requires no extra software05:27
ccookeyaaar: it's trivially circumvented requiring no effort.05:28
Hendricdone with NFS.. but it transfer files so slow.. upto 32kbps.. to slow for a 678MB iso05:28
tritiumDarknight: is there a driver for that card?  I've not heard of it.05:28
Darknighttritium, I knew how to do it in suse and modprobe but here i'm stucked05:28
herbie53is this the ubuntu technical support channel?05:28
p0windahherbie53: we try05:28
tritiumyes, herbie5305:28
ccookeso, it's not useless, but the precaution fails by default.05:28
Answerp0windah: That is a good suggestion to rename the rm binary...05:28
herbie53good05:28
Darknighttritium, this is typical bttv878 card05:28
ccookeAnswer: okay. you can get the parameters of a script with "${@}" inside it.05:28
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tritiumDarknight: is that module loaded now?05:28
herbie53i installed ubuntu the other day and when i try and access the add/remove programs05:28
p0windahAnswer: although that wont prevent people from using it05:28
yaaarccooke: the goal of this project appears to be keeping track of people's stupid mistakes, not keeping track of malicious behavior. in any case, this is a dumb way to go about it anyway05:29
ccookeAnswer: but I think you should probably look at a restricted shell.05:29
Darknighttritium, how to check it?05:29
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herbie53it comes up with a password box05:29
tritiumDarknight: lsmod | grep bttv05:29
tritiumherbie53: give it your password05:29
Kamping_Kaiserherbie53: the user created during install05:29
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Answerccooke: Yes I can get the script arguments, but the alias script wasn't getting the original command as an argument, so I wanted it from history.  I think renaming the rm binary will work05:29
herbie53i type my password and then it says child terminated with 1 status even when i enter my password or the administrator password05:30
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QuinthiusAnswer: are you just wanting to prevent people from rm'ing stuff carelessly? if so, why not just alias rm to rm -i, or rename rm and make a new rm that runs real.rm -i05:30
Darknighttritium, looks like everything is loaded05:30
tritiumherbie53: which administator password?  The root account is disabled by default.05:30
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ccookeAnswer: it will, as long as nobody finds out what rm has been renamed to :-)05:30
tritiumDarknight: good deal05:30
shekharcan someone help me?05:30
[LethAL] herbie53, open a terminal and try sudo -i05:30
herbie53when i was setting up ubuntu it asked me to set a root password which i set05:30
tritiumshekhar: go ahead and ask05:30
Darknighttritium, wait, could I paste u listing?05:30
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p0windahccooke: its air-tight05:30
tritiumherbie53: no, ubuntu does not do that05:31
herbie53i have tried that password in the box to no avail05:31
naliothDarknight: in a pastebin05:31
Darknighttritium, dont know if everything is ok05:31
herbie53oh well the admin account im not sure05:31
tritium!tell herbie53 about rootsudo05:31
AnswerQuinthius: I want to prevent careless rms, but I also want to generate an email with the user, the command, the path, timestamp, etc.05:31
Darknightnalioth, ?05:31
ccookep0windah: how do you get that?05:31
Darknightnalioth, howto?05:31
p0windahoops sorry05:31
nalioth!pastebin05:31
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:31
[LethAL] herbie53, did you do expert install?05:31
herbie53yes05:31
p0windahccooke: its air-tight </sarcasm>05:31
Kamping_KaiserAnswer: turn up your sysloging05:31
shekhartritium:  whenever i logout from the system menu, my session gets saved rather than restarting or shutting down, even if i choose not to save session05:31
Answerherbie53:  It's probably asking for the password of the current user, not the root pw05:31
[LethAL] herbie53, su -05:31
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abarbacciahow do i use bluetooth?05:31
ccookep0windah: ah. Better.05:31
herbie53i have tried both05:31
tritiumshekhar: there's a preference that you might have accidentally set05:32
[LethAL] herbie53, "su -" will ask for root pwd05:32
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herbie53what do you mean?05:32
Kamping_Kaiserherbie53: you must have got the password wrong :\05:32
[LethAL] herbie53, in a terminal05:32
herbie53i guess so05:32
herbie53do you know how i can change it?05:32
Kamping_Kaisersu asks for root password, sudo asks for your user password05:32
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herbie53ok05:32
herbie53how do you do sudo?05:32
Answerherbie53:  In a terminal type   sudo /usr/bin/gnome-app-install05:32
Answersee if it launches05:33
Kamping_Kaiserboot single user, as long as root is off, you can reset passwords there05:33
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p0windahopen up a terminal and type "sudo -s", then type in your password, then type "passwd root"05:33
[LethAL] Answer, he did expert install, which doesn't setup sudo properly05:33
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ccookeKamping_Kaiser: there are ways even if that works :-)05:33
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herbie53oh05:33
p0windahthen enter in whatever you want roots password to be05:33
shekhartritium:  i have played around with sessions prefs to change this, but no luck... any ideas?05:33
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Kamping_Kaiser:) init=/bin/sh05:33
p0windahherbie53: remember, you are the master of your domain05:33
Kamping_Kaiser*sbin05:33
benkong2!info rubrica05:33
uboturubrica: (An addressbook for the GNOME desktop), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.12-4ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 360 kB, Installed size: 1252 kB05:33
DrTigerhi! I have a big problem with my cd writer..05:33
ccookeKamping_Kaiser: indeed.05:33
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tritiumshekhar: if it's not your sessions preferences, then no, I don't.  Sorry...05:33
Kamping_Kaiserlove it05:33
abarbacciai need someone to explain how i connect my phone to my computer via bluetooth - the dongle is found - i just dont have any utilities to use?05:34
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ccookeKamping_Kaiser: replacing init with a shell script can get you some interesting effects05:34
p0windahif you dont master your own domain, someone else most certainly will05:34
herbie53i have opened the sudo program in terminal and it says password05:34
herbie53do i enter my user password?05:34
[LethAL] yes05:34
DrTigeruder windows I can burn fine, but in ubuntu I have not yet managed  to write a cd that is readible05:34
p0windahherbie53: just type in your normal password05:34
herbie53ok05:34
herbie53i will try it05:34
Kamping_Kaiserccooke: i have used it onece, to reset a root password, and it worked05:34
Darknighttritium, its in pastebin now05:34
ccookeabarbaccia: what happens if you type "hcitool scan" ?05:34
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abarbacciaits scanning05:34
herbie53i typed in the password and the program closed05:34
DrTigerthere is no error during burning...05:34
[LethAL] DrTiger, does it go preparing... done (very quickly)?05:35
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p0windahherbie53: if there was no error, it worked05:35
DrTigerno05:35
_jason if i press ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a terminal how do i get back to X?05:35
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p0windahherbie53: the terminal is still open I assume ?05:35
[LethAL] _jason, Ctrl-alt F705:35
abarbacciaccooke, it found my phone05:35
HiddenFlywhen i do make when installing downloader for x, i get errors showed in here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2742 how can i fix this?05:35
herbie53no terminal closed when i hit enter05:35
_jason[LethAL] :  thanks05:35
herbie53after typing password05:35
kennethlovegareahge!!!105:35
abarbacciaccooke, is there a gui tool i could use because i'm lazy right now05:35
tritiumDarknight: can you put it in #flood please?05:35
p0windahherbie53: go into accessories and click on terminal05:35
ccookeabarbaccia: I've not found one in ubuntu, but there probably is.05:35
herbie53applications>accessories>terminal?05:36
herbie53terminal is not in that menu05:36
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Kamping_KaiserHiddenFly: why are you installing from source? i dont think i saw an answer :\05:36
Quinthiusherbie53: system tools if using hoary05:36
ubuntu_adiktusHello05:36
herbie53i did applications>run application05:36
herbie53oh right ok05:36
fgrhello, i have w32codecs and mp3 support ( i can listen with xmms), but both gnomebaker and serpentine can't read mp3. what do i have to do?05:36
HiddenFlyKamping_Kaiser: im installing from source cos i couldnt find it from apt-get05:36
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Kamping_Kaiserhi ubuntu_adiktus05:36
shekhartritium:  i believe that this is a bug with ubuntu... i cannot logout on the first try from system menu05:36
ubuntu_adiktushello05:36
ubuntu_adiktuskamping05:36
herbie53terminal is open05:37
herbie53what do i do now?05:37
Kamping_KaiserHiddenFly: what went wrong with apt?05:37
p0windahtype "05:37
Quinthiusherbie53: sudo <command>05:37
p0windahtype "sudo -s"05:37
tritiumshekhar: the reason I doubt that is that you're the only one that's experienced it05:37
HiddenFlyKamping_Kaiser: i couldnt find that program from it05:37
ubuntu_adiktusas of now im installing ubuntu for the first time so far i have no problem05:37
herbie53ok05:37
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shekhartritium: what could be the problem? i have been trying to figure this out for weeks, it's incredibly annoying that i cannot logout my system!05:37
p0windahherbie53: now type "passwd root"05:37
Kamping_KaiserHiddenFly: its in universe05:37
HiddenFlyKamping_Kaiser: ok, ill recheck my repos05:38
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ubuntu_adiktusdoes ubuntu have support for online games like MU Online and Gunbound??05:38
tritiumshekhar: don't know. That sounds very obscure05:38
Kamping_Kaisergood luck hF05:38
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fgri need a GUI to burn cdaudio from mp305:38
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FhaeTongood morning05:38
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herbie53where do i type passwd root?05:38
FhaeTonis anyone free to help me05:38
Quinthiusubuntu_adiktus: not unless those games have linux versions. you may have limited success using an emulator such as Cedega though05:39
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p0windahherbie53: answer my messages you mung-bean so I can walk you through this05:39
simbohi there05:39
herbie53i did05:39
Hendricubuntu_adiktus, gunbound won't work because of gameguard. same with MU.05:39
FhaeTonhello05:39
ubuntu_adiktusthanks05:39
herbie53on the private chat?05:39
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FhaeToncan I get some help05:39
p0windahherbie53: I assure you, the channel hates reading my spam as much as I hate typing it05:39
tritiumFhaeTon: ask here in the channel05:39
herbie53ok05:39
p0windahherbie53: yes, that one05:39
adrian_hi, how I can check the size of folders in, for example /home/mike ?05:39
tore_How can I make my charset-configuration be global?05:39
FhaeTonOk05:39
ubuntu_adiktushow about yahoo messenger?05:39
tore_It wont work in aterm and such05:40
Kamping_Kaiserubuntu_adiktus: serveral chat apps do yahoo. gaim for example05:40
FhaeTonI got the Ubuntu installed but when it goes to start up the grub is saying loading but nothing happens05:40
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simboherbie: type ctrl-alt-f5, typ it in there.05:40
Quinthiusadrian_: du -sh /home/mike05:40
FhaeTonGrub 1.505:40
adrian_thanks05:40
FhaeTon[img] http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/FhaeTon_sig.jpg[/img] 05:40
Kamping_Kaiserok. night night all05:41
FhaeTonmy comp specs05:41
FhaeTon[img] http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/FhaeTon_sig.jpg[/img] 05:41
[LethAL] So?05:41
Hendricubuntu_adiktus, gaim is a good client.. but i've tried YM using crossover... sadly only upto version 5.. new YMs with graphical GUIs won't work05:41
p0windahhahaha05:41
p0windahI love the flames!05:41
FhaeTonthx05:41
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herbie53hello could somebody help me05:42
FhaeTonanyone know a solution to grub loading05:42
p0windahsweet jesus05:42
[LethAL] !grub05:42
uboturumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting05:42
herbie53i cannot access the add/remove programs dialog05:42
abarbacciaccooke, how does this hcitool work - i connected to my device - now how do i transfer a file?05:42
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p0windahherbie53: answer my /msg alice!05:42
herbie53i did05:42
herbie53hav a look05:43
p0windahyou didnt..05:43
herbie53i did05:43
herbie53on the private chat?05:43
p0windahdid you type /MSG p0windah YOU ARE MY SEX GOD !05:43
p0windahI dont think you did..05:43
herbie53no05:43
fgrwhat do i need to add mp3 support in gnomebaker?05:43
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p0windahso type it already..05:43
tritiump0windah: please keep on topic05:43
p0windahI'm trying to help the guy05:43
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simbo<newbie question alert> is the Breezy Colony 5 CD Image (as listed in the header of this channel) the final release? or will there be another release before the official release date...?05:43
p0windahhe keeps asking the same asinine question over and over again05:44
herbie53and u aren't answering05:44
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herbie53please help me05:44
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adrian_Quinthius, how do that: I want a list of folders [in for example /home/mike]  with its sizes, and size of files that are in this folder ?05:44
adrian_[sorry for my english ;) ] 05:44
Quinthiusadrian_: you can do like: du -sh /home/mike/*05:44
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kennethlovesimbo: no, not exactly. but it will get breezy installed so you can update to the final through apt-get/synaptic. or you can just wait until the 13th or whenever.05:45
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FhaeTonI'm not sure what to do with this05:45
adrian_thats it! thanks05:45
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simbokennethlove: ahh as I thought, Many thanks05:45
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[fC] KingKarl\awhi, how can I change my X-win resolution via the reqovery console?05:45
p0windahyou try your best to help...05:45
taomasterany idea when the final release comes out?05:45
kennethlovesimbo: no problem.05:45
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mopatoptaomaster: 13th05:46
kennethlovetaomaster: i heard the 13th.05:46
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tritium[fC] KingKarl\aw: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:46
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Quinthiusadrian_: you can also use the --max-depth option which will move down into the directory by the number of levels you specify. for example: du -h --max-depth=1 /home/mike, will print all directories directly under /home/mike05:46
[fC] KingKarl\awtritium: thx I'll try05:47
LeeColletonI've found a printing bug in Breezy.  My HP PSC-1210 now prints black text in color.  Help?05:47
ubuntu_adiktuswhat is kubuntu??05:47
Quinthiusadrian_: --max-depth=2 will print anything under /home/mike and anything under those directories also05:47
[LethAL] ubuntu_adiktus, It's Ubuntu with KDE rather than Gnome05:47
ubuntu_adiktusoh i see05:47
ubuntu_adiktusmy friend told me about it05:48
p0windahLeeColleton: hrmmm, double checked your printer settings arent on grey scale. I have a psc1200 and its printing and scanning fine05:48
ubuntu_adiktuswhats the best to use ubuntu or kubuntu?05:48
adrian_Quinthius: thanks, I will try05:48
[LethAL] ubuntu_adiktus, opinions...05:48
Quinthiusubuntu_adiktus: personal preference...05:48
tritiumubuntu_adiktus: whichever suits you best05:48
Quinthiusubuntu_adiktus: depends whether you like KDE or gnome better05:48
Hendricubuntu_adiktus, are you pinoy?05:48
ubuntu_adiktusopo05:48
taomasteri've had np with the install of this o/s05:48
Belutzi prefer gnome :D05:48
Hendricubuntu_adiktus, you hated the raid, aren't you?05:49
Hendriclolx05:49
Belutzor maybe later i'll xubuntu05:49
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ubuntu_adiktushahahaha yep i really did05:49
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LeeColletonp0windah: are you using Breezy?05:49
ubuntu_adiktusputs my business upside down05:49
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p0windahLeeColleton: yeah I am05:49
FhaeTonthis is what i keep getting:05:49
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ubuntu_adiktusHendric05:50
FhaeTonGrub Loading stage 1.505:50
ubuntu_adiktuscan you help me?05:50
Hendricah, better use ubuntu, get cedega and point2play, get crossover too.. helps alot05:50
FhaeTonGrub Loading, please wait....05:50
p0windahLeeColleton: you tried printing out the test page in the printer properties ?05:50
zephyrmasterUmm, why can't I install VLC? It says required dependencies can't be installed :-(05:50
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Hendriconline games worked fine the cedega.. except for nProtected ones...05:50
ubuntu_adiktuswhats the browser in ubuntu?05:50
FhaeTonnothing happens its just stuck on that screen05:50
p0windahzephyrmaster: repositories ?05:50
Hendriconline games worked fine with cedega.. except for nProtected ones...05:51
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Hendricubuntu_adiktus, firefox05:51
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[LethAL] That's better05:51
tritiumubuntu_adiktus: others are also available05:51
JakeassNeed help guys05:51
zephyrmasterI05:51
[LethAL] !helpme05:51
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.05:51
zephyrmasterI'm not sure with repository it's from05:51
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zephyrmaster*which05:52
[LethAL] Jake, ask the people05:52
p0windahzephyrmaster: have you added multiverse and universe ? its probably you'll need stuff from them05:52
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ubuntu_adiktusHow about MU Online Hendric does it work fine with cedega05:52
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zephyrmasterOkay, thanks, I'll check05:52
zephyrmasterI'm fairly sure I added them, but I might not have05:52
p0windahzephyrmaster: I think if you use the search on the ubuntu forums there would be a thread about how to install VLC and the exact respositories you need05:52
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dooglusvlc is in universe.  it shouldn't have dependancies in multiverse.05:53
JakeassI have 2 computers, one with windows and one with ubuntu, the ubuntu one doesnt boot, because the grub booter wont install to hdd or mbr, do you know where i can get a cd?05:53
zephyrmasterOk, thanks05:53
ubuntu_adiktusHow about MU Online Hendric does it work fine with cedega05:53
ubuntu_adiktusHendric: How about MU Online does it work fine with cedega05:53
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Hendricubuntu_adiktus, maybe it will work with cedega, but noone had it working yet. I did using wine. but i can't see the ingame fonts.05:53
FhaeTonhey what is an OS/2?05:54
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ubuntu_adiktuswaaa05:54
JakeassI have 2 computers, one with windows and one with ubuntu, the ubuntu one doesnt boot, because the grub booter wont install to hdd or mbr, do you know where i can get a cd?05:54
tritiumFhaeTon: an old OS from IBM05:54
FhaeTonoh05:54
FhaeTonty05:54
dooglusJakeass: you can get CDs from many retail outlets, both on the high street and online.05:54
Jakeasscan i have a link?05:54
[LethAL] dooglus, He has it installed, he wants to boot it05:54
dooglushttp://www.play.com/05:54
tritiumJakeass: why happens when you try to install grub?05:54
ubuntu_adiktushow many minutes does ubuntu installs05:54
TiMiDoJakeass, link for what?05:54
Hendricubuntu_adiktus, computer speed?05:55
TiMiDoubuntu_adiktus, depends 20 to 30 minutes05:55
JakeassA boot cd for linux05:55
TiMiDoJakeass, what distro?05:55
LeeColletonp0windah: even when I explicitly state "Greyscale" it prints in sickly greens.  If I take out the color cartridge, it goes through the motions and spits out a blank page.05:55
TiMiDoJakeass, www.linuxiso.org and check there05:55
[LethAL] TiMiDo, Ubuntu, duh05:55
Jakeassok thanks05:55
yaaarhey guys....who do i send suggestions about man pages to? the exports(5) man page has an example line in it that works, but causes a warning because of an implicit wildcard, and i sort of think it should note that in the manual. worse, the nfs(8) and nfsd(8) man pages make no mention of the exports file, which is pretty much the central config for nfs05:55
dooglusyaaar: bugzilla.ubuntu.com05:55
FhaeTonis it always this hard to run linux05:55
yaaardooglus: i don't think these pages are created by ubuntu.....05:55
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tritiumno, FhaeTon05:55
dooglusyaaar: doesn't matter.05:55
p0windahLeeColleton: thats odd, sounds like its trying to print your greys from your color cartridge05:55
TiMiDoyaaar, update the manpages man -U or man -u05:56
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dooglusyaaar: if it's an upstream issue, the ubuntu people will forward it upstream and track the bug05:56
LeeColletonp0windah: yes, and that sounds like a bug to me because it worked before upgrading to Breezy05:56
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kennethloveFhaeTon: linux is easy when you learn to tread it like the different OS that is it.05:56
LeeColletonp0windah: and the scanner works fine in b/w and color05:56
zephyrmasterHmm, for my VLC problem05:56
p0windahLeeColleton: well if you're sure its not your ink, then you should go ahead and file a bug report05:56
FhaeTonI'm trying to learn05:56
zephyrmasterI opened all the repositories, and it says I have unresovable dependencies05:56
zephyrmasterIs it possible to still install it?05:57
FhaeTonI have never operated anything outside of ac before05:57
p0windahLeeColleton: make sure its fixed before breezy is officially released05:57
zephyrmasterI'm using an Athlon 64 if that matters05:57
JakeassCant find anything05:57
FhaeTonMac05:57
JakeassI have 2 computers, one with windows and one with ubuntu, the ubuntu one doesnt boot, because the grub booter wont install to hdd or mbr, do you know where i can get a cd?05:57
tritiumzephyrmaster: you also ran sudo apt-get update after updating your /etc/apt/sources.list ?05:57
JakeassI have 2 computers, one with windows and one with ubuntu, the ubuntu one doesnt boot, because the grub booter wont install to hdd or mbr, do you know where i can get a cd?05:57
kennethloveFhaeTon: what are you having problems with?05:57
doogluszephyrmaster: what do you see if you "sudo apt-get install vlc" ?  can you paste the output to the pastebin?05:57
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tritiumJakeass: quit repeating!05:57
[LethAL] Jakeass, no need for flooding05:57
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[LethAL] Ouch05:58
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st1lgarhi, i installed breezy a few days ago, now i have ~70Mb of suggested updates everyday. Is that normal ?05:58
[LethAL] st1lgar, yes05:58
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dooglusJakeass: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-19428.html05:58
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tritium[LethAL] : don't hide, silly05:58
Jakeassthanks05:58
egoleoyeah05:58
p0windahst1lgar: yeah, because you are using the "preview" release05:58
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st1lgarwow, active community then :)05:58
FhaeTonKennethlove05:58
egoleois normai;05:58
FhaeTononesec05:58
ubuntu_adiktusis mirc available to ubuntu?05:58
dooglusstiletto: openoffice.org2 got updated today.  that's over 50Mb I think05:59
p0windahst1lgar: its getting feedback from the community and receiving bug fixes quite frequently05:59
kikinovakHi. Just migrating to Ubuntu from Slackware. Q: what's the Ubuntu/Debian equivalent of rc.local?05:59
[LethAL] ubuntu_adiktus, no, use XChat05:59
FhaeTonI have a 64 bit systems05:59
zephyrmasterWhat's the paste bin?05:59
Jakeasswhere do i get those files to copy to make the cd?05:59
dooglus!paste05:59
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text05:59
ScatterBrainubuntu_adiktus: No, try X-Chat05:59
st1lgarp0windah: ok, thanks, nice !05:59
FhaeTon[img] http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/FhaeTon_sig.jpg[/img] 05:59
p0windahst1lgar: yeah, its exciting :)05:59
ubuntu_adiktusthnks05:59
kennethloveubuntu_adiktus: no, mirc is windows-only. but Konversation and xchat work great.05:59
ubuntu_adiktuslater after it finished installing Ill try it05:59
st1lgarchanges quite a bit from my old slackware :)05:59
[LethAL] FhaeTon, stop spamming that link05:59
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FhaeTonyes sir05:59
ubuntu_adiktus:)05:59
FhaeTonsorry05:59
tritiumyes, FhaeTon, please05:59
gearryI had installed a full install of hoary and was impressed with how it automounted my usb drive, however, I wanted a leaner install so I reinstalled and started with just the base.  I lost that automount functionality, and am not sure how to get it back.06:00
p0windahubuntu_adiktus: ofcourse most people in the channel are using bitchX06:00
FhaeTonI'm sorry i'll leave06:00
zephyrmaster!paste E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:00
zephyrmasterE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:00
ubotuzephyrmaster: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about06:00
tritiumno need to leave, FhaeTon06:00
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Jakeassdooglus: Where do i get the files i need?06:00
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Belutzzephyrmaster, theres another synaptic/apt running06:00
zephyrmasterhaha, yeah, I noticed that06:00
gearryI can always go back and do things the old way, but automount sounds nice.  Can anyone give me a hint what I might want to install.06:00
zephyrmasterLet me try again06:00
Jakeassalan where do i get these files06:01
dooglusgearry: installing "ubuntu-desktop" will give you back the full install you had before06:01
Jakeass copy /usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux.bin06:01
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FhaeTonIt just seems to have a problem when It trys to boot with grub it hangs up06:01
gearrybut I don't want the full install06:01
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zephyrmasterThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:01
zephyrmaster  vlc: Depends: dbus-1 (>= 0.23.4) but it is not installable06:01
zephyrmaster       Depends: libflac6 but it is not installable06:01
zephyrmaster       Depends: libhal0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable06:01
zephyrmaster       Depends: libmodplug0 (>= 1:0.7-1) but it is not installable06:01
zephyrmaster       Depends: wxvlc but it is not going to be installed06:01
TiMiDooh boy06:01
[LethAL] DON'T PASTE IN HERE06:01
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p0windahsweet peanut, stop that?!06:01
zephyrmasterSorry06:01
kennethlovezephyrmaster: hey. use the pastebin.06:01
tritiumzephyrmaster: !!!!06:01
Belutzdon't paste in here06:01
[LethAL] !pastebin06:01
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:01
cosimo321Helo all. Are ther any defrag utilities for breezy or linux that will work on breezy?06:01
FhaeTonI think I have a weird setup though06:01
JakeassLethALwhere do i get  copy /usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux.bin06:01
zephyrmasterSORRY06:01
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[LethAL] cosimo321, Ext2/3 doesn't fragment06:01
Denskiwow06:01
dooglusJakeass: install syslinux06:01
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Belutzzephyrmaster, are you using breezy?06:02
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Denskitheres so many users here06:02
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dooglusJakeass: then it will be on your disk06:02
ccooke[LethAL] : well... yes, it does.06:02
zephyrmasterYeah, I think so06:02
cosimo321The only os I know of that didn't fragment was BeOs06:02
FhaeTonI'm running this raid0 in software06:02
ccookecosimo321: yes, there are.06:02
p0windahDenski: and we'd all like to be your friend :)06:02
zephyrmasterHave the other packages just not been made yet?06:02
[LethAL] ccooke, I know, but not badly06:02
Jakeassdooglus: Do you have msn this is too fast?06:02
Denskianyone who can help me here06:02
cosimo321like what06:02
Belutzzephyrmaster, it might be, breezy is not stable yet06:02
ccookecosimo321: no, beos fragmented too. It just handled things very well.06:02
dooglusJakeass: I think Microsoft still has MSN06:02
[LethAL] Jakeass, request PM rather than MSN06:02
drummer87hey, what's the 'default gateway device' option in the network config for?06:02
gearrydooglus: I don't really want the whole desktop install06:02
p0windahDenski: ask your question and we'll try to help06:02
tritiumDenski: just ask the channel please06:02
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ccooke[LethAL] : under average workloads, yeah.06:02
cosimo321Be Os fragmented so little that it was barely visible06:02
ompaulselinium, a you (a)bout or (b) not here?06:02
zephyrmasterOkay, thanks06:02
[LethAL] drummer87, it's if you have a router06:03
cosimo321I sy\till use BeOs06:03
p0windahcosimo321: you an old beos user ?06:03
dooglusgearry: do you have 'hotplug' installed?06:03
[LethAL] drummer87, or are otherwise behind a network06:03
cosimo321Still to day Yes06:03
gearryI really just want to know what I need to install for that functionality06:03
p0windahyeah, I used it for about a year as my primary desktop... /me wipes away a year06:03
gearryI believe I have hotplug06:03
Jakeassdooglus where do i get syslinux06:03
drummer87[LethAL] , should it be set to the interface linked to the router?06:03
dooglusJakeass: from synaptic06:03
JakeassI see thank amte06:03
[LethAL] drummer87, yes06:03
Jakeassmate*06:03
[LethAL] dooglus, he can't get Ubuntu running06:04
cosimo321Any one here have a step by step to configure wacom tools on breezy?06:04
[LethAL] s/he/Jakeass06:04
FhaeTonI can say this for Linux is not for noobs06:04
gearryafirmative, hotplug is installed and detects the device06:04
drummer87[LethAL] , thanks.. that's why me net dropped then, hehe06:04
poningruFhaeTon: and you would be wrong06:04
dooglusJakeass: which version of the OS?06:04
TiMiDoFhaeTon, just get us to it,06:04
gearrythe piece I am missing is the automount06:04
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[LethAL] drummer87, lol06:04
poningru_sleepFhaeTon: I can say things like pigs can fly doesnt make it true06:04
[LethAL] Jakeass, just to let you know, I'm going off now06:04
poningru_sleepanyway night guys06:04
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kennethloveanyone can use linux. the setting up isnt always noob-proof06:04
cosimo321Ubuntu is aiming for the new user, I think it's the right way to go06:04
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tritiumgood night, poningru_sleep06:05
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zephyrmasterAnother question, why can I not see the files of a directory when I "view as list", on see them when I view them as icons? It's an NTFS partition06:05
dooglussetting up windows isn't noob-proof either though06:05
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cosimo321windows is fairly easy if you instal it for someone first06:05
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FhaeTonI wouldn't even try to use windows06:05
p0windahthe statistics on windows bot networks alone is proof of that..06:05
FhaeTonthats not an option for me06:05
cosimo321XP is great!!06:05
cosimo321Windows Vista comes out I think this January06:05
FhaeTonhah06:06
rcdiugunI have better luck setting up a Unix server over windoze xp. :P06:06
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doogluscosimo321: ubuntu is great too.  both windows and linux can be tricky to install properly06:06
[LethAL] :P06:06
kennethlovedooglus: no, but the average noob doesn't have to set up windows themself06:06
p0windahcosimo321: I wish I could afford to upgrade06:06
kennethlove*themselves06:06
JustinHHmake: gcc: Command not found :what package must i install?06:06
p0windahhardware upgrades + software... no thanks06:06
Denskiok.06:06
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cosimo321upfrade to what??06:06
FhaeTonhttp://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/01/1525221&from=rss06:06
Denskii cant play a single movie.wmv on totem06:06
davrowhat is this windows ?06:06
dooglusJustinHH: if you just want gcc, get package 'gcc'.  if you want a whole bunch of other build stuff, get 'build-essential'06:06
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kennethlovedavro: they're like a door, only smaller06:06
FhaeTonvisat is gonna run a lot of people away from windows06:06
cosimo321The only non windowing os i know of is dos06:07
dooglusdavro: I think it's a toy os for gamers.06:07
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cosimo321There is NO OS with as many HIGH end apps as windows06:07
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kennethlovecosimo321: guess you've never used linux/unix, then.06:07
p0windahOMG06:07
Denskiis there anyone who knows how can i play videos on totem?06:07
RonaldHm... can I get to the root user in any way :D ubuntu doesn't even set up a password for root (which arguably is a good thing ;P)06:07
[LethAL] kennethlove, door's aren't allways seethrough ;)06:07
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p0windahlets all start flaming and stop helping ppl...06:07
gearryit looks like pmount might be what I am looking for06:07
dooglus!root06:07
ubotuI heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:07
cosimo321Yeah I have but they don't have the number of High end app06:07
butcherbirdDenski: you apt-get w32codecs yet?06:07
p0windahcosimo321: silliness aside, it depends on the apps you need to use to be productive06:08
Denskibutcherbird; not yet...wait06:08
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Denskisorry im a newbie here06:08
tritiumcosimo321: most serious scientific/engineering applications run on *nix06:08
tritiumnot windows06:08
cosimo321Excactly, except, for recording, picture editing ONLY windows06:08
rcdiugunuhm, cosimo321... maybe you'd like to stop thrashing OSs here. It's not really the right room for you to do so...06:08
Ronalddooglus: thanks, i need uid 1001 for my user not 1000 (nfs shares)06:08
stilettodooglus how do i update oopenoffice org?06:08
cosimo321Mac sucks no matter what you do06:08
kennethloveso when did windows replace Mac OS X as the defacto machine for video/image/sound editing? and linux as the defacto rendering engine for 3D?06:08
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stilettowhat i do to do this?06:09
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HendricMac for Productivity. Linux for Development. Windows for Solitaire. you better use windows then...06:09
butcherbirdDenski: w32codecs kind of a pain now to aptget maybe someone else here can tell you a repo to use06:09
p0windahcosimo321: my wife is a linguist and she will only use linux06:09
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cosimo321About 3 years ago where have you been?06:09
stilettohow you do the update for openoffice?06:09
naliothkennethlove: macs have long been used for video/audio/image editiong (pre OSX, even)06:09
dooglusRonald: you can make a new user with 'adduser --uid 1001 username'06:09
tritiumcosimo321: why don't you /join #ubuntu-offtopic, and continue your discussion there, please06:09
stilettoget-apt openoffice install06:09
cosimo321kennethlove doesn't like me i think06:09
stilettois this how you do this?06:09
_jason!restricted06:09
ubotuwell, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:09
stilettohello?06:09
p0windahstiletto: it will be automatically updated when you update your system using synaptic06:10
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kennethlovenalioth: yeah, i know. that is what i was saying.06:10
stilettowhat is synaptic?06:10
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Ronalddooglus: prolly, but i'm just going to mess around a bit to change the uid ;)06:10
tritiumpackage management software, stiletto06:10
kennethlovestiletto: synaptic is a GUI package manager06:10
cosimo321tritium what is the problem?06:10
tritiumcosimo321: it's offtopic06:10
stilettois that add remove programs at top of my screen?06:10
stilettolittle thing?06:10
cosimo321what is off topic? ubuntu?06:10
dooglusRonald: use 'vipw' to edit /etc/passwd, and "chown -R" to change your file ownerships06:10
kennethlovestiletto: it is like it, yes.06:10
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Denskiim using hoary 5.04, i have totem.1.2.0.tar.gz, how can i install it? im new at linux06:11
stilettook thank you06:11
dooglusRonald: I guess you'll need to edit /etc/shadow too06:11
tritiumcosimo321: no, your OS wars flamebait, and you're annoying people06:11
p0windahDenski: why do you have that .tar.gz file ?06:11
Ronalddooglus: I know, and a pile of chown ;)06:11
cosimo321tritium the printed word is more often misinterpreted than not,06:11
Denskipowindah...its a totem file....its not compatible with unbuntu????06:12
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cosimo321anyway, does anyone know how to configure the wacom tools in ubuntu?06:12
Denskii would like to upgrade my totem06:12
gearrydooglus: I found it.  The package I need was gnome-volume-manager06:12
dooglusgearry: good!06:12
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Ubuntu_!ndiswrapper06:12
ubotu[ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper06:12
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tritiumcosimo321: I'm not interested in arguing, I just ask that you please take it to -offtopic.  kthx06:12
dooglusgearry: and thanks for letting us know :)06:12
_jason!tell Denski about restricted06:12
cosimo321I have already stopped, tritium, why are you continuing this?06:12
_jasonDenski:  that will tell you how to get w32codecs, is that what you wanted?06:12
p0windahcosimo321: cool, you made your point06:13
Ubuntu_!java06:13
ubotuI guess java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java06:13
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stilettoahh if i use the advance thingy it do the synaptic thing06:13
stilettoahh06:13
p0windahcosimo321: so did you have a problem with ubuntu someone could help you with ?06:13
gearryI am new to ubuntu, but not linux06:13
cosimo321yes let me repeat it06:13
naliothubotu: tell Denski about w32codecs06:13
cosimo321 I wanted to know how to configure the wacom tools on breezy06:13
cosimo321 I have tried every site and forum all giving me things that I don't understand06:13
p0windahcosimo321: first thing, have you done a search on the ubuntuforums and google ?06:13
stilettowow look at all these things in synaptics?06:14
gearryI just wanted a snazzy desktop to admin my debian boxes with ;)06:14
kennethlovegearry: if you've used debian before (or a debian-clone), you should not have any big problems.06:14
cosimo321I am fairly new at this and need a little more help than these forums provide06:14
stilettoi not even knowing of this.06:14
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kennethlovestiletto: don't let it get to your head. you don't need half of them.06:14
p0windahstiletto: its all a big network of updates and software :)06:14
doogluscosimo321: is the man page on xsetwacom any use?06:14
rcdiugunhas anyone here tried to set up a PalmOS pda to sync with an app on ubuntu?06:14
gearrythis is my test drive06:14
gearryI use jpilot on Debian06:14
cosimo321no nothing is of use as of yet. I was hoping one of you would know where to find a blow by blow configuring06:14
gearryI imagagine it would be pretty much the same on Ubuntu06:15
doogluscosimo321: I don't have a wacom tablet06:15
cosimo321The driver is installed but needs to be configured06:15
gearryI have never really used any of the gnome-pilot stuff06:15
cosimo321I can't use a mouse, it's like using a rock06:15
rcdiugungearry: how were you able to configure it? somehow I can't seem to make it see the zire72. But an older versioned palm (IIIxe) worked just fine.06:15
gearryrcdiugun: is your zire a usb device?06:16
doogluscosimo321: rocks are ok, so long as you get optical ones06:16
cosimo321well I will go on with my search06:16
rcdiugungearry: yup.06:16
p0windahcosimo321: I think this thread will sort you out. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2515106:16
cosimo321and just to get at tritium XP RULES DOOD!06:16
cosimo321or DUDE!06:16
dooglusidiot06:16
Denskiits a good think i found this chatroom coz im losing hope with linux....i hope i could learn more about linux with you guys06:16
gearryif so you probably need to press the sync button on the palm, wait a sec, and then press the sync button in jpilot06:16
tritiumgood for him06:17
gearryif that does not work, make sure you have all of the correct device modules loaded06:17
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kennethloveDenski: linux is as easy as windows/mac os x. it just takes some time to learn.06:17
FhaeTonok this time I got an error 2 Grub Loading...06:17
rcdiugungearry: hmmm. okidoki. will try that again.06:17
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p0windahDenski: just need to relearn some new computing metaphors06:17
simonehi06:18
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bartphi06:18
tritiumFhaeTon: have you enabled LBA in your bios?06:18
FhaeTonLBA in bios?06:18
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Hendrici love xp better.. specially its bluescreens...06:18
simonei speak italian and a little of english06:18
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tritiumyes, FhaeTon.  Please go into your bios settings, and check that06:18
p0windahsimone: what do you need help with ?06:18
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kennethloveHendric: they shouldn't have been so sexist, though. where's the PSOD?06:18
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FhaeTonLlogical block addressing06:18
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simonewith ubuntu bp 5.10 and ethernet06:19
rcdiugunkennethlove: heck, people should be glad that the os has GUI now. I used to do all my tasks using the command line on unix (and vi even!) 8 years back. Was a bit of a culture-shock for me... but I learned. :D06:19
DrTigerI just wasted another dvd-r because Ubuntu can't burn cds it can read -.-06:19
mondoes spamrecognition in Evolution only work when spamassassin is installed?06:19
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FhaeTonok I will try that06:19
Denskithanks powindah and kennethlove, hope to learn from you guys06:19
tritiumDrTiger: it can burn cds, silly06:19
kennethlovercdiugun: a large chunk of my linux usage is still CLI. :)06:19
DrTigeryeah but I can't read any of them06:19
p0windahhehe06:19
siglol @ DrTiger06:19
davrorcdiugun: still sounds good.06:19
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p0windahno true vi user even changes....06:20
sigyou can't burn cd's not ubuntu06:20
p0windahever, rather06:20
sigdon't blame06:20
kennethlovebah. fuck vi. :) emacs!06:20
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naliothkennethlove: watch your tongue, please06:20
darkheartYeah emacs if you need an OS-wannabe to edit a text file...06:20
tritiumplease keep this channel work-safe06:20
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NermalDrTiger: enable dma on the drive ?06:20
DrTigermount /media/cdrom006:20
DrTigermount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,06:20
DrTiger       missing codepage or other error06:20
DrTigerhow?06:20
alessandrohi06:20
rcdiugunkennethlove: yeah. have to admit, most linux stuff is easier for me using CLI... though yeah... emacs over vi! haha!06:20
Nermalhdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc06:20
Hendricnano's better.. hehe06:20
Nermalwith sudo06:21
naliothDrTiger: please dont paste here06:21
p0windahwhat timezone have we just entered and all these users came from ?06:21
Nermalemacs is a great os, it just lacks a decent editor :P06:21
DrTigerhow can I check whether dma is enabled or not?06:21
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NermalDrTiger: miss the 1 out06:21
ScatterBrainrcdiugun: vi rulez! ;-)06:21
p0windahlondon and frankfurt ?06:21
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tritiumDrTiger: also with hdparm06:21
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rcdiugunSCatterBrain: only when emacs isn't installed. LOL!06:21
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ScatterBrainrcdiugun: heh06:22
Xk2cbye06:22
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FhaeTonwhere is the LBA located in Bios06:22
alessandrowho from italy?06:22
tritiumFhaeTon: that depends on your hardware06:22
instaAnyone have advice on getting IE to run under Kubuntu Breezy?  I need it for a developer machine, to check if the CSS renders properly.06:22
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davrowho cares for the editors wars, but i do wonder about all these guis, the command line is so much more versitle.06:22
tritiuminsta: wine and winetools from winehq.com06:22
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p0windahinsta: quickest and easiest way is using cxoffice06:22
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tritiuminsta: winetools will hold your hand installing IE06:23
instaIs that free?06:23
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p0windahthe winetools are free, yes06:23
Hendricwinetools' better.. and free06:23
p0windahcxoffice is not06:23
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DrTigerhow does dma affect the quality of the burnt cds?06:23
rcdiugunwould you believe that when I first started using linux I got culture-shock again and was asking a colleague how to see the bash again? haha!06:23
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p0windahrcdiugun: we wouldnt06:24
DrTigerat the moment there are no errors during burning... just when mounting (and unreadable by windows too)06:24
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Zeke1is there a linux app that allows you to use windows programs?06:24
HendricZeke1, wine06:24
DrTigerzekel: try wine... but if you want windows programs, better stay with windows06:25
alessandrowhy drtiger?06:25
mcphailIs anyone using PCIe graphics cards with success?06:25
FhaeToncan't find an LBA in my Phoenix - AwardBios cmos06:25
Zeke1Hendric, is it any good?06:25
instaIs the package name 'winetools' ?06:25
alessandrois there games for linux?06:26
DrTigerat least for me it is usually easier to use windows progams in windows than in linux06:26
HendricZeke1, yes and use winetools06:26
rcdiugunp0windah: :) well, i got so used to the command line from unix.06:26
Zeke1Hendric, whats wine tools06:26
rcdiugunalessandro: yup. there are games for linux.06:26
FhaeTonmaybe if I knew what an LBA was I could find it.06:26
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HendricZeke1, GUI for wine06:27
rcdiugunalessandro: one of which I'm playing right now (battle of wesnoth)06:27
tritiumFhaeTon: logical block addressing06:27
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tritiumZeke1: it also helps you configure wine easily06:27
Zeke1Hendric, i see there is xwine as well is that better than just wine06:27
HendricZeke1, winex?06:27
alessandrorcdiugun: where have you download it ?06:27
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rcdiugunalessandro: www.wesnoth.org06:28
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alessandrois it free?06:28
Zeke1Hendric, no i think its xwine06:28
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ryanpghi all... I'm getting ready to setup ubuntu as a samba file server for about 30 OSX machines... any howto's around I could look at?06:28
rcdiugunalessandro: yup! Free. Open Source.06:28
HendricZeke1, never tried it.. winex is wine + directx06:28
naliothryanpg: OSX uses NFS, not samba06:28
Zeke1Hendric, i cant find winetools in synaptic either06:28
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ryanpgnalioth, osx has samba support06:29
tritiumZeke1: winehq.com06:29
alessandroit's so horrible!!!06:29
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naliothryanpg: NFS is native to OSX, samba is not06:29
Zeke1tritium, ok cool thanx06:29
ryanpgnalioth, ok... what are you suggesting?06:29
alessandrothe worth copy of age of empires06:29
naliothryanpg: use NFS with your OSX machines. samba for windows machines06:30
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JustinHHafter i compiled a program, how can i start it?06:30
p0windah./binary_name06:30
rcdiugunalessandro: aah! Well <shrug> to each his own i guess. You can check out other free games here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_game_software.  Though I wouldn't know which are linux based from there.06:30
ryanpgnalioth, well performance isn't a big issue, ease of setup and "hands free" maintanence is a priority... isn't samba a better fit?06:31
HendricOMG.. my update stalled while installing python2.4-examples if i cancel this.. should it start from the beggining? its a 299MB update all in all06:31
p0windahHendric: the .deb files are cached06:31
naliothryanpg: why are you not using apples proprietary protocols?06:31
naliothryanpg: nfs is many years ahead of samba in those things06:31
ryanpgnalioth, because my server is a linux box06:31
naliothryanpg: then use NFS. it is stable and proven in enterprise environments06:32
kennethlovehow do you mount an NFS share in OS X?06:32
Hendriclast question before i leave.. how can i break the 32kbps file transfer rate of NFS??06:32
naliothkennethlove: visit bresink.de06:32
p0windahHendric: no such limit exists06:32
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Hendricif i transfer friles from one pc to another... the maximum speed is only 32k06:33
kennethlovenalioth: thanks.06:33
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DrTigeractivating dma does not resolve the issue06:33
naliothkennethlove: NFS on OSX is a little different than on other unixes, b/c of netinfo06:33
DrTigerthe burned dvd is still recognized as "raw dvd"06:33
kennethlovenalioth: yeah, i think i've heard that before.06:33
ryanpgnfs looks quite hard to setup https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo06:34
DrTigerthe nice thing is, I have been able to burn isos I downloaded (e.g. somebody else created the image)06:34
naliothryanpg: it's not any more diffecult than samba06:35
HendricOMG!!! it didn't stalled.. there was a confirmation box behind. sadly i killed synaptic... :(06:35
DrTigeryep06:35
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windexDrTiger, did you close the disc? some dvd burners have issues reading discs they burn if you don't close them.06:35
DrTigerI don't even know how to close a disk in nautilus burner06:35
eviananyone use eclipse? it seems like the recent SWT upgrade deb is broken?06:35
windexDrTiger, me neither. :) never tried.06:36
DrTigerand it should read the dvds it created06:36
kennethloveso does installing nfs on ubuntu not set up auto-discovery?06:36
windexDrTiger, did you try ejecting it and putting it back in?06:37
p0windahnfs doesnt work that way06:37
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DrTigeryes of course06:37
windexDrTiger, k, i'm out of suggestions. :) every time i try to use nautilus burner i get a kernel panic.06:37
mcphailIs anyone using PCIe? I'm about to buy a new box, and don't want to make a foolish purchase.06:37
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johnglahi!06:37
DrTigeroh06:37
DrTigerwell linux isn't ready for my laptop obviously -.-06:38
sepmikemcphail:  I have a friend who uses PCIe06:38
p0windahmcphail: try the forums, you'll get better exposure06:38
johnglai saw the option "Erase entire disk and use LVM" in the installer. what is LVM?06:38
windexlogical volume management, it's commonly used for software raid06:38
DrTigerI will try and create isos manually some time, and see if they can be burnt to disc06:38
johnglaok06:38
johnglathanks :D06:38
naliothwindex: linux volume manager06:38
mcphailsepmike: any problems?06:38
p0windahanyone here tried luminocity in ubuntu ?06:38
mcphailp0windah: thanks06:38
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tritium*logical06:38
sepmikemcphail: nope06:38
windexnalioth, it used to be logical volume manager.06:38
p0windahI've only read good things.. but too scared to try myself :)06:39
johnglap0windah: yes06:39
sepmikemcphail:tho what are you going to be using the computer for06:39
johnglait only runs in a window btw ;)06:39
windexnalioth, i think it is, actually. because it's a shared technology between Linux and AIX, and IBM donated large portions of it06:39
mcphailsepmike: my main desktop.06:39
p0windahjohngla: ah ok, what was your experience like ?06:39
windexnalioth, pfft. :D06:39
DrTigerbut it is really embarrassing when somebody asks me to burn them a cd and I have to say "Ubuntu can't use my cd burner"06:39
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sepmikemcphail: I mean games etc06:39
naliothwindex: no sleep does it to ya06:39
johnglap0windah: well, it ran fine, but i couldn't really use it for much ;)06:39
windexDrTiger, have you tried using another cd burning app?06:39
mcphailsepmike: games not really an issue, but would like to play around with Blender etc06:40
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sepmikemcphail: just that I'm not the one to ask about how far the support is06:40
johnglacool effects though :p06:40
sepmikemcphail: I just know it runs06:40
DrTigerkburn06:40
JustinHHhow can i stop it?06:40
evianDrTiger: tell them your burner is broken :)06:40
JustinHHhow can i stop a program from the terminal?06:40
p0windahjohngla: have you see the videos with it running at the window manager and client windows "wobbling" ?06:40
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DrTigerk3b06:40
p0windahjohngla: thats what really caught my attention06:40
johnglap0windah: ye06:40
AnswerBlame it on the hardware!06:40
johngla*yes06:40
johnglahehe06:40
DrTigernero works, but under windows06:40
mcphailsepmike: thanks06:40
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DrTigerthe hardware is only a month old and it never worked under linux before06:40
windexDrTiger, if you have nero for windows, i think nero has a linux version. :P06:41
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windexDrTiger, but it requires you own a windows-based copy.06:41
DrTigerI'd guess it's more of a linux-kernel problem06:42
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DrTigeror some comunication internally06:42
p0windahsomething to do with linux... at any rate06:42
windexDrTiger, hey, if you eject the dvd, does nautilus still say its inserted?06:42
JustinHHhow can i stop running a program from the terminal?06:42
DrTigerif I eject it, the window closes06:42
windexDrTiger, because that's what happens to me when i try to use my burner, and the only way to fix it is to reboot. i always wrote it off as a fact of life with the USB cd-rw, though.06:42
p0windahJustinHH: killall firefox06:42
windexDrTiger, k. nevermind then06:43
JustinHHthx06:43
p0windahJustinHH: type "ps aux" to list process names and other info06:43
JustinHHkillall is ok06:43
JustinHH;)06:43
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Denskisir i have ymessenger1.0.4. can i install it other than GAIM?06:43
Denskiymessenger is .deb06:44
Hendricjust installed xfce ... how can i use it??06:44
p0windahDenski: is it in synaptic ?06:44
Hendricit doesn't appear on the sessions..06:44
ompaulDenski, it is suggested that you should not, it is suggested that it is broken06:44
p0windahompaul has a cunning ability to sound like a bot06:44
Denskiyea i tried to install it but wont work...so i guess its broken. thanks06:44
tritiump0windah: no, it's not in the repos06:44
SchteenHmm, I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop, but it freezes whenever I try logging in, anyone have any idea what's causing it? :s06:44
tritiumDenski: you tried installing it with dpkg -i ?06:45
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Denskika06:45
ubuntu_adiktusyehey Im finish06:45
tritiumIs that a yes, Denski ?06:45
Hendrictritium, how can i use xfce rather than gnome..06:45
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ubuntu_adiktuswhere can I download yahoo messenger installer for ubuntu06:45
Denskitritium, yes i already dpgk it.....it doesnt work....06:46
tritiumDenski: what error do you get?06:46
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tritiumHendric: did you install it?06:46
tritium!xfce06:46
ubotuI heard xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4". http://www.xfce.org/06:46
Hendricapt-get install xfce06:47
Denskiit said, try apt-get -f to install the problem06:47
Denskito fix06:47
HendricOMG.. i forgot the the 406:47
Hendricdoes it matter?06:47
tritiumubuntu_adiktus: most people use gaim instead06:47
tritiumyes, Hendric06:47
Hendrickk06:47
Denskidoes anyone have a deb. file of gaim 1.5.????06:48
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Hendrictritium, well after installing it.. how can i make ubuntu use it rather than gnome?06:48
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HendricDenski, use synaptics06:49
ompaulDenski, tjhat is not how you deal with a distro, what you do is 'sudo apt-get install gaim' and it gives you the version for your system06:49
p0windahstartx /usr/bin/xfce (assuming thats the binary name and where its located)06:49
tritiumHendric: I've not used it, so I don't know if it adds a session you can choose from gdm/kdm or not.  Try reading the docs in /usr/share/doc/xfce406:49
p0windahHendric: but I'm sure all this is in the docs06:49
Hendrictritium, kk.06:49
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Denskiok thanks, ill try it06:50
tritiumHendric: if it doesn't add a session, you may want to edit your ~/.xinitrc.  The docs should say something06:50
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Carwash<Carwash> how do I install WinxP again? I have ubtunu instaled right now and I can't install winXP, it simply won't help me06:50
Carwash<Carwash> even if I put the window XP cd in and change the boot sequence06:50
Carwash<Carwash> it will just bring me to ubuntu06:50
tritiumDenski: gaim is installed by default06:50
Carwashsorry fot the paste, just dont wanna type it up again06:50
Denskiit said, its the newest version06:50
ubuntu_adiktuswhere can i download yahoo messenger that works in ubuntu06:50
tritiumDenski: as it should06:51
FhaeTonwell I can't find anything relating to the LBA in my Bios?06:51
Denskidoes synaptics upgrade all the softwares in ubuntu?06:51
p0windahFhaeTon: it will be associated with your HDD's06:51
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tritiumubuntu_adiktus: as I said, most people use gaim.  yahoo messenger for linux isn't very good06:51
Denskii mean does it automatically updates the softwares...like openoffice????06:51
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tritiumDenski: if there's an update06:51
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Aragorn_Guardianubuntu has something like stable / unstable / testing?06:52
p0windahDenski: if you only install stuff from syntaptic and the standard network repositories, yes06:52
tritiumDenski: after a stable release, the only updates are for security issues06:52
p0windahDenski: your entire machine and every piece of software(kernel included) can/will be updated06:53
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tritiumAragorn_Guardian: there is a stable release, and one in development06:53
p0windahDenski: you only run into problems when you start installing software that is not part of synaptic06:53
Denskii see06:53
Aragorn_Guardiantritium:  but not testing, is that?06:53
tritiumjust the two, Aragorn_Guardian06:54
Denskithanks for the enlightenment sirs06:54
p0windahDenski: have you used firefox in windows before ?06:54
Aragorn_Guardiantritium:  nice...06:54
Denskiyes, i use firefox powindah06:54
p0windahDenski: ever noticed it sometimes have security updates from time to time ?06:54
tritiumAragorn_Guardian: the current development release will be released as stable on Oct. 1306:54
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Denskinot really...havent notice it06:54
Aragorn_Guardianis coming... 8)06:55
p0windahyou should :)06:55
FhaeTonok I give up on the LBA in Bios I don't think this one has it.06:55
Denskii installed fasterfox on my firefox....is it good?06:55
tritiumDenski: you've never seen a little red icon in your notification area?06:55
Denskiis the notification area located at the taskbar?06:56
Aragorn_Guardiansomeone is using ubuntu in a server? i, for a while, prefered debian for server, but...about ubuntu? is possible run the server safely?06:56
HendricFhaeTon, every bios has it i think06:56
Aragorn_Guardiani see server option in install06:56
tritiumAragorn_Guardian: it's roughly the same as debian w.r.t. setting up services06:56
FhaeTonI'm using a fairly new board06:56
FhaeTonASUS SLI Premium06:57
ompaulAragorn_Guardian, as safe a Debian give or take an angstrom06:57
tritiumAragorn_Guardian: server install is the bare minimum.  No desktop env., etc.  It's up to you to install what you want, including services such as openssh-server.06:57
FhaeTonIs it posible I may need a bios update?06:57
Denskido you guys have antivirus on your linux? :D06:57
Aragorn_Guardiannice...06:57
HendricFhaeTon, go to your bios then find the part where you can see your hardrives...06:57
naliothDenski: there is no need for AV on linux06:57
ompaulDenski, for what?06:57
HendricFhaeTon, it should give you options like LBA, etc..06:58
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ubuntu_adiktushendric where can i download yahoo messenger that works in ubuntu06:58
FhaeToni can see a harddrive in the boot section06:58
tritiumubuntu_adiktus: have you not seen my messages in reply to that?06:58
ompaulubuntu_adiktus, use gaim it is part of the base install06:58
ubuntu_adiktusnope06:58
Denskii saw on ubuntu website that you can download AV for server...just wondrin....coz the reason i switch linux is because of that and knowledge06:58
tritiumubuntu_adiktus: how can you miss all of them?06:59
ubuntu_adiktusgaim06:59
naliothDenski: there are no known viruses detrimental to linux06:59
Denskii've been using linux for 4days :D06:59
p0windahDenski: http://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=delete.9.jpg06:59
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ubuntu_adiktusbecause im in the ubuntu desktop at that time hihihi06:59
ubuntu_adiktusim using 2 computers06:59
Hendricubuntu_adiktus, there is one in messenger.yahoo.com but ubuntu doesn't like it... gaim is ok.. but for your clients who only know YM.. use crossover then install YM version 5 and lower.06:59
ompaulDenski, you install av software if you are providing mail services for windows clients, but Linux to Linux not needed06:59
p0windahDenski: in the very top right hand corner, see the green circle with an arrow ? if you see the green or red, it means there is an update for firefox and you should click on it06:59
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ubuntu_adiktuswhere can i download cross over sir07:00
Denskiok thanks powindah for the info...there's no green or red arrow at this moment...07:00
AnswerAnybody know how to make a .tgz in windows?07:00
tritiumubuntu_adiktus: I believe that's not free software07:00
HendricOMG.. xfce is so fast that i didn't even see it load..07:00
FhaeTonok in the Main bios area it has Primary mas/slav secondarymas/ slav and 1,2,3,4 sata master but no drive shows.07:01
p0windahAnswer: google for "ultimate zip"07:01
Answerp0windah: I have gnu gzip?07:01
FhaeTonin the boot section it show 1 HD scsI-007:01
p0windahAnswer: its a gui for windows that supports multiple archive formats, .tgz included07:02
FhaeTonI have my SATA drive set up in RAID007:02
p0windahwhy ?07:02
Answerp0windah: Do you know if it supports command line integration (with WinSCP for example)07:02
p0windahAnswer: that, I'm not sure07:02
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Shinjanhi folks07:03
p0windahhi mary07:03
egoleohello shinjan07:03
Denskii networked 2 pcs, one ubuntu laptop and 1 windows 2000, i tried to share my cd drive of my laptop, but i cant see it in my windows computer07:03
FhaeTonbrb restroom calling07:03
Denskii have samba installed on my laptop linux ubuntu07:03
Denskii connect it using a crossover cable07:04
tritiumFhaeTon: good luck07:04
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DNAku-sanhi07:04
spektrmy external firewire drives suddenly stopped working on my kubuntu hoary machine (nothing in /var/log/messages when I plug the drive in). usb1 hotplug is still working. is anybody else experiencing firewire troubles? (I did a full update last friday, maybe the kernel update or some other package is the cause)07:05
p0windahspektr: did you reboot after kernel update ?07:05
DNAku-sanI'm installing the  ubuntu breezy preview on my external hard drive on my ibook07:05
DNAku-sanand it gives an error while installing yaboot07:05
spektrp0windah: yes, several times since friday07:05
DNAku-san The installation of the yaboot boot loader failed07:06
DNAku-san Warning: Your system may be unbootable!07:06
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DNAku-santried it twice07:06
ProN00bowned, DNAku-san07:06
tritiumnalioth: does that sound like that yaboot bug you mentioned to me?07:06
naliothDNAku-san: what hardware ?07:07
DNAku-sanibook G4, external firefire hard drive07:07
DNAku-san*firewire07:07
naliothDNAku-san: you will not lose bootability. you can always hold the alt-option key to boot to OSX07:08
DNAku-sanand how can I boot ubuntu07:08
naliothDNAku-san: you can also use the alt-option key to boot to linux, and attempt repair of your yaboot07:09
davroDenski: After you changed your samba config, did you restart the samba smb demon07:09
DNAku-sando you have any idea why it might not be able to install?07:09
Denskidavro: nope how do i restart it?07:09
naliothDNAku-san: did you choose automated partitioning?07:10
davrosudo /etc/init.d/samba restart07:10
B_166-ER-Xwhat are the letters we should put after the 'TAR' command ? to untar07:10
DNAku-sanyes and no, I chose it, but edited it somewhat07:10
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davrotar -xvf extract07:10
egoleo-xvf07:10
B_166-ER-Xthx07:10
naliothDNAku-san: did you create a 1mb 'new world bootstrap' partition?07:11
eleanor`hey, can anyone please tell me how to configure a PCMCIA wireless card (3com btw) for WPA?07:11
DNAku-sanis that created automatcily? if not, no, I didn't create it07:11
Denskidavro: thanks will try it tomorrow07:11
stilettowhat is acfax? i see that in synaptic07:11
stilettois that for faxing?07:11
naliothDNAku-san: check for it's presence. in a terminal, type "sudo fdisk -l"07:12
tritiumstiletto: view the package details, or sun "apt-cache show acfax"07:12
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davroFrom what i remeber of samba, every time i change the /etc/sambasmb.conf i had to restart the demon for changes to have affect, sure there is another way.07:12
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scorpix_i can't upgrade/run firefox in Hoary, i got this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GdZXha42.htm , how can i fix it?07:13
LaxaaI need help with a wireless network07:13
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Hendric2bwahehehe07:13
org__hi all, I got some problem in my resources.list and my apt-get doesnt work well, can someone help me07:14
Hendric2XFCE is as fast as the bullet train.. lolx07:14
Denskimay tagalog ba dito?07:14
Hendricyeah!07:14
Hendric2tagalogin mo Denski07:14
org__when i do apt-get update, it gives me alot of 505 files not found, and errors.07:14
dooglusis it possible to get mplayer to show localised fonts when showing subtitles?07:14
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Denskihehehe hendric07:15
doogluslike when the subtitle has an r with a 'v' over it, I see an upsidedown questionmark instead.07:15
Denskimeron pala dito. kala ko ako lang pinoyski07:15
LaxaaIs there any drivers for the DWL-G122 out there?07:15
Hendric2lolx.. andito ka kasi takot ka sa raid right?07:15
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naliothtagalog in #ubuntu-ph, english in here, please07:15
tritiumThis is an English channel, fokls07:15
dooglusor any other movie player would do.  do any of them support foreign lanuage subtitles?07:16
tritiumfolks, even07:16
LeeColletontritium: isn'07:16
Denskihuh??? you mean...theres a pinoy ubuntu???07:16
Denskicool dude07:16
org__http://pastebin.com/38174907:16
tritiumLeeColleton: what?07:16
org__those the last few lines07:16
Denskisorry tritium07:16
LeeColletontritium: isn't that funny, why isn't this ubuntu-en ?07:16
org__pls someone check them..07:16
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tritiumDenski: no need to apologize :)07:16
stilettokaudiocreater if i install this it want to remove all this other things is this what i wanting to do?07:16
Laxaaftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/07:17
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LaxaaThoes that one work?07:17
Laxaa*Does07:17
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org__Please people, someone can give me little assistance?07:17
LeeColletonI guess for the same reason English is the default language of the Internet07:17
dallas_how do I do a recursive search of my hard drive?07:18
tritiumLeeColleton: probably07:18
darkheartdallas_ find will do it.07:18
ScatterBrainorg__: What seems to be your problem?07:18
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darkheartdallas_ 'find /|grep something'07:18
ScatterBrainorg__: I don't know that I can help, but I'll help if I can.07:18
p0windahHendric2: check this out http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog//xshots07:18
FhaeTonhey back07:18
DNAku-sannalioth, I rebooted back to OS X and did a fdisk -l, but ti says it's an ilegal option :/07:18
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FhaeTonsheese07:18
tritiumuse sudo, DNAku-san07:18
FhaeTonI got to get this shit running07:18
p0windahHendric2: its coming to ubuntu(when its done tm)07:19
naliothDNAku-san: it is not illegal in ubuntu07:19
org__ScatterBrain, hi, my problem is the "apt-get doesnt find everything i try to install" then i edit the sources.list and do exactly what some sites recommend me to do, and i change the sources.list alot of times, but now everytime i do "apt-get update" i get errors07:19
tritiumwath the language, please, FhaeTon07:19
naliothDNAku-san: do you have a ppc livecd?07:19
LaxaaHelp?07:19
FhaeTonoh sorry07:19
DNAku-sannalioth, yes I have the ppc livecd07:19
FhaeTonI meant crap07:19
org__ScatterBrain, i've got alot of sources.list and i changed it alot, and still doesn't work07:19
FhaeToncrap07:19
tritiumwatch the spelling please, tritium :)07:19
dallas_darkheart, okay now how do I output that to a file?07:19
eleanor`hey, can anyone please tell me how to configure a wireless card for WPA?07:19
Denskithanks for the info sir's07:20
org__ScatterBrain, before my apt-get doesn't find alot of things, and now it gives me errors when i try to install anything07:20
Denskigotta go07:20
ScatterBrainorg__: First, what does your sourcs.list file look like.  (Please use the pastebin)07:20
GDornanyone else have a geforce 6600 and have suggestions for xorg.conf?07:20
Denskinex time!07:20
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FhaeTonwhat allows my HDs to be seen by the software?07:20
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FhaeTonor the bios07:20
tritium!tell GDorn about nvidia07:20
Hendric2p0windah, so what's that for?07:20
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darkheartdallas_ Redirect... 'find /|grep something > results.txt'07:20
org__ScatterBrain, you want the now sources.list file? becuz i used alot of sources.list from guys in forums.. let me paste this one07:20
p0windahHendric2: 3d accelerated desktop, you mentioned you liked the speed fo xfce07:20
tritiumorg__: don't paste here please07:20
p0windahHendric2: check out the videos, mind blowing07:21
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ScatterBraintritium: I told him/her to use the pastbin.07:21
org__tritium, ofcourse07:21
tritiumScatterBrain: :)07:21
davroorg_: Is the CDROM still in the apt sources, without the cd in the drive that might though some errs07:21
org__ScatterBrain, here it is, http://pastebin.com/38175407:21
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LaxaaI've got a WLAN UDB adapter, but it wont work without a third party driver, so I wondered if this was okay: ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/07:21
tritiumcool, org__ :)07:21
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org__and the errors when i do "apt-get updates" are here...07:21
GDorntritium:  is the packaged version of nvidia-glx as recent as nvidia's own release?07:21
tritiumLaxaa: there are ubuntu packages of wlan-ng07:21
org__http://pastebin.com/38174907:21
org__see07:21
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Hendric2p0windah, can that help this 32MB Pentium 166 with 1MB cirrus logic integrated video card? :p07:21
org__tritium :)07:21
stilettoare kde and gnome enemies or something? it wants to remove gnome when install kde things.07:21
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Laxaatritium: Where?07:22
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Versedlol07:22
tritiumGDorn: perhaps not, but it's still preferable to use ubuntu packages07:22
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tritiumLaxaa: try apt-cache search wlan-ng07:22
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Answerp0windah: Thanks for UltimateZip07:22
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LaxaaIn the terminal?07:22
Versedstiletto I have both desktops, but use gnome mostly07:22
FhaeTonshould I use HDD SMART MONITORING?07:22
GDorntritium: with renderaccel off, though, screen updates are painfully slow.  whenever I task-switch, there's a very clear pause while the window repaints.07:22
p0windahAnswer: np07:23
LaxaaI'm a n00b....i just installed the system07:23
tritiumLaxaa: yes.  Are you sure you need those, though?  Which wireless card do you have?07:23
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davroorg__ comment out the apt CDROM line if it not being used.07:23
naliothFhaeTon: easy on the caps, mister07:23
LaxaaD-Link DWL-G12207:23
FhaeToneh07:23
moZerwhat would be the preferred way to change the order of the sound cards as alsa devices? i have two cards, but the wrong one is the default alsa device07:23
Shin_Goukihi, i got kinda serious apt-get problem: 1. i have NO internet 2.we i type: "apt-get install build essentials" i get 2 warnings: couldn, read stat package from http...." i need to turn of this, how?07:23
FhaeTonI was just listing as it looks07:23
ScatterBrainorg__: Yours looks just like mine (except you aren't using the 'multiverse' repository - not a problem).07:23
gearrydooglus: I'm back.  It looks like my CD and floppy automount, but not USB devices07:23
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gearrynot sure why07:23
ScatterBrainorg__: So what errors are you getting?07:23
Gnuclearcan someone help me to verify the mp5 sum check from DOS command line?07:23
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org__davro, can you give me good sources.list ??07:23
FhaeTondoes caps do something to others screens?07:23
org__ScatterBrain, i give you the link of the errors07:24
blekoshellooo07:24
james_hi, for some reason my Ubuntu text etc is hard to read on browsers etc.. ??07:24
tritiumGDorn: well, installing the drivers off nvidia's site is not recommended, but it's your machine ;)07:24
gearryjust occurred to me to look at fstab to make sure that device is set for user07:24
dooglusgearry: I don't have any USB devices, so I don't know anything about this07:24
Gnucleari've got the  ISO file and MD5 checksum file in the directory- what do i have to do next?07:24
naliothGnuclear: get this for use on the DOS command line http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/07:24
blekoswhich antivirus would recommend07:24
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blekosi know i do not need one...but...07:24
tritiumblekos: none07:24
Shin_Goukinaloith!07:24
dooglusblekos: I use 'linux' to defend against viruses07:24
blekoslol07:24
naliothubotu: tell org__ about sources07:24
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Shin_Goukii need ur help :)07:24
egoleoaok07:24
Shin_Goukinaloith , i need ur help :)07:24
naliothblekos: if you insist, use clamav07:25
davroorg__: The error "Failed to fetch cdrom", comment out line 1 on your /etc/apt/source.list of place you Ubuntu CdRom into the drive07:25
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blekosthnx07:25
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org__davro, what do you think of this one?  www.freenode.net/faq.shtml07:25
Shin_Goukinalioth ,  i got kinda serious apt-get problem: 1. i have NO internet 2.when i type: "apt-get install build essentials" i get 2 warnings: couldn, read stat package from http...." i need to turn of this, how?07:25
naliothShin_Gouki: ask the channel your question. i'm not the only one here07:25
blekosit is not for incoming msgs07:25
org__davro, ops sorry, i mean this one http://pastebin.com/38176107:25
blekosor anything07:25
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org__ScatterBrain, check this http://pastebin.com/38176107:25
tritiumShin_Gouki: that's not the package name, for one thing07:25
naliothShin_Gouki: your 2nd problem is directly related to your 1st07:25
ScatterBrainorg__: Here's my sources. http://pastebin.com/38176307:25
Laxaatritium: D-Link DWL-G12207:25
org__do i have to do "apt-get dist-clean" first? before updating?07:25
blekosjust a few i receive i want to know if i cant forward them or they are just viruses..07:25
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tritiumLaxaa: which chipset?07:25
naliothorg__: no you do not07:25
blekosu c there r ppl still using windows..!! ;)07:26
LaxaaHmmm...wait a minute07:26
Shin_Goukinalioth i need gcc to get my NIC workin , ...wwoooo funny?07:26
org__ScatterBrain, and you can download anything using apt-get?07:26
davroorg__: look better the line is commented, now do an, apt-get update07:26
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dooglusis it possible to make the subtitles bigger in totem-xine?07:26
naliothblekos: that is admirable of you to scan your email b4 forwarding it07:26
org__ScatterBrain, i mean if you do that, does it work? apt-get install gaim-guifications07:26
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davroorg__: sudo apt-get update07:26
hereservicehallo07:26
tritiumShin_Gouki: build-essential should be on the install CD, but you have to spell it right07:26
ScatterBrainorg__: pretty much.  I mean there are some "legal" issues with a few packages, but yeah it works.07:26
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org__davro, why sudo?07:26
blekos:)07:27
Shin_Goukii spelled: "apt-get install build essential" is that wrong?07:27
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org__davro, you mean with my last sources.list that i paste?07:27
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[LethAL] build-essential07:27
dooglusbuild_essential, Shin_Gouki07:27
blekosthnx07:27
[LethAL] no space07:27
dooglusooh - a dash...07:27
tritiumblekos: yeah, I can respect that, dude :)07:27
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davroas you need su user permissions to use "apt"07:27
blekosubuntu really rocks..07:27
blekos:)07:27
blekosthnk u guys07:27
egoleoyeah07:27
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ScatterBrainorg__: are you running "sudo apt-get install <packages>?07:27
egoleois cool07:27
naliothdavro: ubuntu does not use "su", it uses "sudo"07:27
egoleoyeah07:27
ScatterBrainorg__: or just apt-get install.07:27
org__ScatterBrain, apt-get install07:28
Shin_Goukilethal idid so plz dont put it on spelling error it wasnt one !07:28
Laxaatritum: I can't find it on their website07:28
bob2Shin_Gouki: build-essential07:28
ScatterBrainorg__: Ah.07:28
davronalioth: please read a previous comment, was trying to explain, dont know why i bother ????07:28
org__Err http://www.getsweaaa.com ./ Packages07:28
org__  404 Not Found07:28
org__ScatterBrain, why07:28
Shin_Goukilethal its more like i need to turn off internet from the apt07:28
org__davro, see this is the first error. :)07:28
naliothdavro: explain properly please07:28
ScatterBrainorg__: try "sudo apt-get update" and then give it your password.07:28
virguleShall I jump on the Breezy bandwagon or lay low with Hoary for while?07:28
GDornyeah, I am really liking ubuntu and there's a really good chance it will be my permanent non-gaming OS.  Are suggestions/etc from a recent, picky windows convert welcome somewhere they might prove useful?07:28
org__ScatterBrain, I'm in root now.07:29
tritiumLaxaa: I'd need to know the chipset in order to advise you07:29
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LaxaaOk07:29
LaxaaI'll google it07:29
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ScatterBrainorg__: OK.  Ubuntu doens't use root by default.07:29
Shin_Goukinaloith , i tried to do the get updta it didnt work!!07:29
davronalioth: get out my face explained enough !07:29
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Shin_Goukinaloith , i tried to do the "apt-get update" it didnt work!!07:29
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org__ScatterBrain, no i use "su"07:29
tritiumShin_Gouki: please don't turn off the internet.  I'm using it.07:29
naliothShin_Gouki: you need internet07:29
ompaulthe gentoo way != the rpm way != the way of debian != the way in ubuntu07:29
Shin_Goukinaloith , i tried to do the "apt-get update" it didnt work!! same error like on  the build essential thing..07:30
org__davro, something wrong :(07:30
ompaulfor values of equal07:30
ScatterBrainorg__: me too. ;-)07:30
FhaeTonIf I have a 64bit system running SLI and Raid0 should I install the i386 or 64bit Ubuntu?07:30
Laxaatritium: Ralink Technology 2500 series07:30
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org__ScatterBrain, why i am having errors still?07:30
Shin_Goukinaloith , i told u i have no internet because i need GCC to compile the nick drivers..?07:30
ScatterBrainorg__: try my sources.list and do apt-get update.07:30
org__ScatterBrain, maybe i need to clean up something first07:30
org__ScatterBrain, ok, wait.07:30
Shin_Goukinaloith , i found the nick drivers but its a c file , i have no gcc soo..?07:30
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[LethAL] Laxaa, http://rt2400.sf.net (Yes, they have rt2500)07:31
ScatterBrainorg__: If you get any errors paste them to pastbin, please.07:31
naliothShin_Gouki: then you need to insert your cdrom and install "build-essentials"07:31
jacques_hello07:31
tritiumwihtout an "s" at the end07:31
org__ScatterBrain, ok07:31
Shin_Goukinalioth i did!07:31
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Shin_Goukinalioth heres error message i got:07:31
Shin_Goukinalioth ,  i got kinda serious apt-get problem: 1. i have NO internet 2.when i type: "apt-get install build essentials" i get 2 warnings: couldn, read stat package from http...." i need to turn of this, how?07:31
tritiumthanks for that URL, [LethAL] 07:31
Laxaatritium: Thanks07:31
[LethAL] tritium, NP, I have a rt2570 :P07:31
tritiumShin_Gouki: it is spelled "build-essential"07:32
naliothShin_Gouki: you need internet. or you need to find the gcc deb from the cd and install it07:32
naliothtritium: he doesnt have internet07:32
Shin_Goukitritium i speeld it tritgh! i got an net problem ^^07:32
Shin_Goukiright07:32
tritiumShin_Gouki: you keep spelling it wrong in here...07:32
Shin_Goukidont focus on that07:32
kennethlovei'm not having any luck mounting an NFS share from ubuntu on my mac. anyone?07:32
Shin_Goukiplz07:32
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tritiumShin_Gouki: fine, but do be aware that spelling/case are important07:33
Laxaatritium: So i'll open the .rar archive in Ubuntu?07:33
naliothkennethlove: did you get nfsmanager from bresink.de?07:33
tritiumLaxaa: I'll defere to [LethAL] , if you don't mind.07:33
LaxaaOk07:33
tritiumdefer even07:33
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[LethAL] About what?07:33
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kennethlovenalioth: yeah.07:33
[LethAL] Oh, is it your rt2500?07:33
Shin_Goukithx tritium i would like more tips to the topic: what happens if i havce no net and "apt-get update" DONT WORK07:33
[LethAL] Um... get net07:34
kennethloveand i've read through the ubuntu wiki pages.07:34
tritiumShin_Gouki: as nalioth pointed out, some of the packages you need are on the CD07:34
Whistlercan i use apt get while updating?07:34
jjazzWhistler, no, I don't believe you can.07:35
kennethloveWhistler: you can only have one apt-get process at a time.07:35
wezzernope07:35
Shin_Goukiyes thx! but when i try to load them ( i inserted the disk!) it tells me: warning on apt-get: couldnt reat stat from http://07:35
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GDornwhistler:  usually, it'll say no, that's locked07:35
Whistlerk thx07:35
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org__ScatterBrain, you still here?07:35
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naliothShin_Gouki: browse the cdrom for your gcc deb07:35
Shin_Goukinaloith, how do i do this? (command?07:36
ScatterBrainorg: yes.07:36
ScatterBrainorg__: yes.07:36
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org__ScatterBrain, ok, It's updating.07:36
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naliothShin_Gouki: OR comment out all your web apt sources from your /etc/apt/sources.list (leaving only the cdrom line at the top)07:36
ScatterBrainorg__: any errors yet?07:36
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Shin_Goukithx god THATs wehat im looking for!07:36
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Shin_Gouki:)07:36
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Shin_Goukinalioth m im new to linux so ... thank you :)07:37
doogluscan someone please help me with getting readable subtitles in any movie player?07:37
[LethAL] Should've gone to Specsavers :D07:37
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drako\i have a problem with my w-lan card.. ubuntu doesnt recognize my wlan card.. so i cant connect to the internet when i use ubuntu.. someone knoe where i can download linux drivers for the smcwpcit-g wlan card?07:38
[LethAL] drako\, try and find which chipset it is07:38
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DNAku-sanhi nalioth, I just tried sudo fdisk -l in ubuntulivecd, it gives a lot of @ 0 for 0, type=0x007:38
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DNAku-santill 16812: @ 0 for 0, type=0x007:39
DNAku-sanSegmentation fault07:39
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[LethAL] DNAku-san, Seg faults are supposedly due to bad RAM07:39
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LaxaaLethAl: So I'll just have to extrect the .rar archive in Ubuntu?07:39
naliothDNAku-san: join me in ##apple   please07:39
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[LethAL] Laxaa, rar archive? from where?07:40
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LaxaaGah....what does defer mean07:40
Laxaa*?07:40
[LethAL] TO change a path I think07:40
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danstHi, I just want to install a cisco vpn client and it asks me where my modules are installed... but the standard dir does not exist: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build07:40
LaxaaOk07:40
danstwhere is it?07:40
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LaxaaThe WLAN driver was a .rar archive07:40
FhaeTondoes ubuntu allow you to textually install?07:40
tritiumdanst: try vpnc07:41
[LethAL] Laxaa, From the rt2400 project? They're tar.gz files07:41
kennethlovenalioth: so is nfs manager your only bit of advice?07:41
LaxaaIts the rt250007:42
[LethAL] I know07:42
naliothkennethlove: with OSX, yes. netinfo mangler is not very unix standard07:42
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tritiumdanst: otherwise, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` for what you're trying to do07:42
[LethAL] You probably want http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/rt2400/rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz?download07:42
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kennethlovenalioth: yeah, but why don't any of the shares show up on it?07:42
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tritiumdanst: but I recommend vpnc07:42
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LaxaaOoops...sorry...my mistake07:43
naliothkennethlove: i have no clue. i'm not up on NFS usage, just it's purview07:43
ScatterBrainorg__: You still working?07:43
LaxaaI was .tar07:43
kennethlovenalioth: ah. alright, thanks.07:43
CarwashHello. I want to duel boot ubuntu and windowXP, but my laptop won't let me boot up windowXP CD even when I put the cd in and reboot it ... even when I change the sequence .. need help please :(07:43
LaxaaI misread it07:43
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[LethAL] Laxaa, you'll need to do "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`" if you haven't allready07:44
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LaxaaOk.Im in Win now, so I haven't done it07:44
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soufianehi07:44
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tritiumCarwash: that's not an ubuntu issue.  Sounds like your bios settings are wrong, or don't work right.07:44
[LethAL] Laxaa, can you get the net in Ubuntu without it?07:44
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LaxaaNo, because the my wireless router wont act as a normal router07:45
Carwashtritium: I thought so. How do I update my BIO?07:45
dallas_how do I see what my ip address is?07:45
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[LethAL] Laxaa, hoary or breezy?07:45
culdude_rlhoary07:46
LaxaaBreezy07:46
culdude_rlyou?07:46
culdude_rlok07:46
culdude_rldo u like it?07:46
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LaxaaMy roommate(Who uses Win XP) cant get the net via it too07:46
culdude_rlok07:46
benkong2what's the best location for an .htpasswd file? I'm setting up a webserver squirrelmail etc.07:46
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LaxaaSo he has the LAN cable directly connected to his PC07:46
kentdallas_, Program->System tools -> Nettools (I think thats the english translation for it.)  It might depend on if you have it installed though..07:47
Skidcolony 5 - offical rls, in 10 days.. like is that breezy stable?07:47
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kentdallas_, otherwise (if you know how to) you can run ifconfig from a terminal07:47
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froggersever/ irc.emule-spain.org07:47
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froggerhello07:47
FhaeTonFreogger07:48
FhaeTonfrogger07:48
[LethAL] Laxaa, do you have 2 PC's?07:48
FhaeTonhey bud07:48
froggerdisconnect07:48
LaxaaAccsess to, yes. Own, no.07:48
[LethAL] I mean can you use two now?07:48
LaxaaYes07:48
LaxaaBut my roommate doesnt hava mIRC07:49
Laxaa*have07:49
[LethAL] Oh07:49
LaxaaOr any other Irc clients07:49
[LethAL] Well... synaptic has rt2500 stuff, but that's no good yet07:49
LaxaaBut I have the files on a USB flash disk07:49
LaxaaThe driver files07:50
[LethAL] Laxaa, i386, AMD64 or PPC?07:50
Laxaai38607:50
LaxaaPentium 407:50
tritiumCarwash: depends on your computer07:50
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tritiumdanst: any reply?07:50
wesleyHi everybody..I'm a newbie!07:51
egoleook wesly07:51
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tritiumwelcome, wesley07:51
wesleythkz07:51
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wesleyso, i have just installed the ubuntu on my notebook!07:51
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wesleyI have a hp compaq nx612507:51
egoleook07:51
wesleysempron 2.8 with 256mb07:51
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egoleoand07:51
wesleyok?07:52
[LethAL] Laxaa, Can I query you? gGot a load of links for ye07:52
LaxaaOk07:52
wesleybut i can see that the ubuntu is so slow07:52
FhaeTonok could my problem be that I need to upgrade the mobo bios first in order for the HD to be seen in Raid0?07:52
wesleyi'd like to know if you have any secret or advice...07:52
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bob2wesley: "so slow"?07:52
bob2wesley: e.g.?07:52
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wesleyslowly07:52
wesleywith the low velocity07:53
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bob2wesley: what a useful reply07:53
pilgrim_executerhello all! im having a little prob with X, without NVIDIA drivers i can get 1600x1200, with them it is not possible - any ideas?07:53
egoleook07:53
wesleythe performance is so bad.07:53
egoleowesley07:53
Answerwesley: buy faster hardware.  and more ram07:53
bob2wesley: perhaps you could elaborate on which bits you consider "slow"07:53
ggellerIs it possible to get a screen dump during the install?07:53
tritiumwesley: velocity is not a proper term ;)07:53
wesleyso.. but the sempn 2.8 is great??07:53
bob2ggeller: run it in qemu (don't think it's possible otherwise)07:54
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bob2unless you do evilness involving /dev/fb0 or whatever07:54
Mars_^Is there anyone here who use PSI?07:54
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bob2but I'm pretty sure they lock you up for that sort of thing07:54
ggellerbob2:  Thanks! qemu sounds good.07:54
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bob2wesley: so, which bits do you think are slow?07:54
ggellerWhat do you mean by /dev/fb0?  A floppy disk drive?07:54
org__ScatterBrain, it works with no errors07:55
org__ScatterBrain, but the thing is, I couldn't make my gaim to flash :(07:55
tgwjthe breezy preview has an ubuntu logo in the menu bar. where is this saved / set ? how do I  change it ?07:55
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[LethAL] ggeller, That's a framebuffer, not a floppy07:55
Mars_^If someone is using PSI please help me. CAn you tall me what is write in your sound options, player box?07:55
wesleythe gnome.. everything is so slow.. when i click on menu  i need to wait 5 secs to menu open07:55
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org__wesley, its your pc :P07:55
tritiumwesley: you don't have much RAM07:56
bob2ggeller: the framebuffer device07:56
tgwjwesley, xubuntu might be for you ;)07:56
ScatterBrainorg__: What's the package that you're looking to install?  Maybe it's in multiverse.07:56
Answerwesley: type this into a terminal:  cat /proc/meminfo | grep -e "MemTotal" -e "MemFree"07:56
org__gaim-guifications07:56
ggellerOK. I'll try qemu.  Thanks again.07:56
bob2FhaeTon: "raid" on a motherboard is unlikely to actually be raid at all.  unless it's a server board.07:56
org__ScatterBrain, cuz i want it to flash whenever i recieve new msg, u know what i mean?07:56
bob2FhaeTon: if it's psuedo raid, just use linux software raid, or none at all07:56
doogluscan someone please help me with getting readable subtitles in any movie player?07:56
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FhaeTonhmmm07:56
wesleyso, and then the ubuntu is so hard...beause 256 in the W$ XP, i can run my programs so good..07:57
FhaeTonyour saying don't setup a raid0 before installing07:57
wesleystrange..07:57
bob2FhaeTon: I'm saying, if you need BIOS updates to stop linux seeing two drives, you don't actually have RAID07:57
dooglusorg__: gaim-guificiations is in universe and works well for me in breezy07:57
bob2wesley: your skillful semi-trolling has defeated us all07:57
ScatterBrainorg__: But what is the package name that let gaim do that?07:57
org__dooglus, and when you recieve msgs in gaim does it flash?07:57
bob2wesley: we shall all use windows, hitherforth!07:57
FhaeTonoooh07:57
[LethAL] gaim-guifications pwns, especially with the Ubuntu Human skin that was made for it07:57
org__ScatterBrain, i dont know, someone told me the one i gave you07:58
FhaeTonI c07:58
HappyFoolhitherforth? izzat a real word? :P07:58
FhaeToninteresting07:58
dooglusorg__: no flashing, no.  I see a 'toast' pop up in the corner07:58
org__lethal do u have screenshot of it?07:58
wesleyso, i have to machines07:58
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Answerwesley: You need more ram.  I'm sure it doesn't work any better in WindowsXP.07:58
org__dooglus, why? what is your WM07:58
tritiumHappyFool: and "izzat"? ;)07:58
ScatterBrainorg__: I don't remember seeing a package name.07:58
FhaeTonbut I used the Ubuntu disc to configure software raid007:58
[LethAL] No, I can't remember where I had got it before, but it's gone now as I don't use Human07:58
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org__ScatterBrain, doesnt you gaim flashes whenever you recieve new msgs?07:58
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HappyFooltritium: inconsistency is the hob-troll of miniature minds07:58
dooglusorg__: metacity, the default07:58
org__dooglus, in gnome?07:58
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ScatterBrainorg__: no, it makes a noise.07:59
Mars_^Who is using PSI here?07:59
FhaeTonbefore that I used the Sicion raid0 311207:59
dooglusorg__: yes.07:59
FhaeTonsomething like that07:59
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org__dooglus, ahha, but why it doesnt flash07:59
org__before it does07:59
org__it flashes white and black when i recieve any msg07:59
Hendricwhy can't i see other ubuntu PCs.. when i open "network servers"07:59
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tritiumHappyFool: who's being inconsistent?07:59
Hendrici can only see windows based PCs07:59
HappyFooltritium: just a joke, nm ;)07:59
GnuclearHi, am getting cyclic redundancy errors when i download the ISOs from http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/08:00
bob2Hendric: that window only shows SMB servers on your network08:00
bob2Hendric: if you want ubuntu machines to show up, install samba on them08:00
org__ScatterBrain, Thats weird.08:00
bob2Gnuclear: your ISP and/or OS is broken, try again08:00
[LethAL] Gnuclear, use the bittorrent download08:00
Hendrici did installed samba on them.. plus shared them using SMB option in "Shared FOlders"08:01
Gnuclear[LethAL]  - yeah doing that now08:01
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tritiumdanst: ping08:01
[LethAL] pong!08:01
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zAo^gnome-baker or ?08:02
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tritium[LethAL] : that would be the proper response, but you're not danst08:02
FhaeTonI set up my SATA drives on my comp like this: 1 drive on primary set to master and 1 drive on secondary set to master. is this config bad?08:02
[LethAL] LD08:02
[LethAL] :D*08:03
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wesleyso, if i do an upgrade in my ram08:03
wesleydo i need to set anything on linux.. ??08:03
FhaeTonmy bios cannot see the drives08:03
bob2FhaeTon: that's fine08:03
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[LethAL] wesley, not unless you go very high, I think it's over 1GB08:03
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bob2even then it's fine08:04
HappyFooli think it might be 2 or 4 GB08:04
wesleyso, do you think with 512mb the ubuntu can run cool?08:04
Mars__^Is there anyone here who is using PSI?08:04
HappyFooli'm running with 512MB08:04
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Mars__^wesley, me to08:04
=== kennethlove runs ubuntu with 128
kennethloveeven running gnome and/or kde08:05
org__i can't install *.rpm files in ubuntu?08:05
bob2gnome in 128MB is kinda painful08:05
bipolarwesley, I've got a few ubuntu machines running with less then 256.08:05
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kennethloveorg__: use alien.08:05
windexwesley, the big diffrence between 256 and 512, imho, is that openoffice runs faster.08:05
HappyFool!tell org__ about alien08:05
kennethlovebob2: painful? you must be expecting too much08:05
tritiumorg__: what are you trying to install?08:05
bipolarorg__, not directly. use alien to convert them.08:05
org__i got a p2p client name gnutella i used it in fedora core and it was great, can i install it in ubuntu please?08:05
kennethlovei don't feel any pain at 12808:05
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kennethloveorg__: have you tried apt-get install gnutella?08:06
org__anyone knows about gtk-gnutella08:06
org__kennethlove, no i didn't08:06
kennethloveorg__: that or look in synaptic (if you're not comfortable with the CLI)08:06
lotusleafRegarding adding multiverse to the sources.list, is this the same as http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/08:06
org__coudln't find package gnutella08:06
org__i don't know what is CLI08:06
kennethloveorg__: look in synaptic and see if you can find it (CLI = command line interface)08:06
HappyFool!tell lotusleaf about repos08:06
org__hmm08:06
org__i tried "gtk-gnutella" and it's downloading08:07
HappyFoolorg__: or check out packages.ubuntu.com08:07
org__apt-get gtk-gnutella08:07
StrogCommand Line Interface08:07
kennethlovethere ya go.08:07
org__ok i will check HappyFool08:07
org__yes kennethlove thats cool08:07
org__but why we can't install rpms?08:07
lotusleafHappyFool, thanks, I know about adding repos, but when I add multiverse to sources.list and apt-get update it doesn't show transcode in synaptic but transcode IS listed here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/08:07
bob2kennethlove: ?08:07
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ScatterBrainorg__: It's apt-cache search gtk-knutella to search for a package.08:07
org__everything in the world is with rpms :P08:07
org__ScatterBrain, thanks too08:07
org__but i'll check the web for packages too08:08
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org__i don't have breezy in my sources.list so i can't get breezy packages?08:08
Bad_Magiccan anyone tell me how to decrease the default DHCP wait time?08:08
kennethlovebob2: if gnome is painful @ 128 for you, you're probably trying to do too much at once.08:08
HappyFoollotusleaf: is transcode available for hoary?08:08
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kennethloverpms suck, yo. apt-get is where it's at08:08
Strognot everything is rpms. Even different rpms aren't compatible with different distros. Many rpms for the same distro don't work on different versions08:08
kennethloveand building from source. :)08:08
lotusleafHappyFool, how can I tell?08:08
bob2kennethlove: eh? I should be able to run a web browser, a text editor and a few dozen terminals at once without paging to hell and back08:08
bob2org__: you don't often need to install things from outside ubuntu itself08:09
org__kennethlove, ok now after i've done "apt-get install gtk-gnutella" and it works fine, where is it saved now, so i can create an icon for it in the desktop or so, i'm not sure where it goes.08:09
kennethlovebob2: i usually run a system like that and i don't notice any problems.08:09
org__bob2, ok sir08:09
lotusleafHappyFool, it's listed in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/t/transcode but not in my synaptic with multiverse added08:09
HappyFoollotusleaf: check packages.ubuntu.com08:09
Bad_Magic!DHCP08:09
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Bad_Magic08:09
bipolarI love the "Add Applications" menu item in breezy. It's really easy to use.08:09
Bad_Magicno love ubotu, no love08:09
kennethloveorg__: you should be able to type 'gtk-gnutella &' at a terminal to launch it. if that works, just put 'gtk-gnutella' as the command for the icon and you're good to go.08:10
lotusleafHappyFool, I don't think transcode is on packages.ubuntu.com but thanks I'll check, I received this info on ubuntuforums I believe a mod mentioned transcode and the url and said it was unsupported08:10
SurakHello, can someone help me with pgp on evolution?08:10
HappyFoollotusleaf: my impression is that archive.ubuntu.com has *all* packages, i.e., for warty, hoary and breezy. The relevant file(s) deciding what belongs to what are the Package.gz files08:10
bipolaris that a ubuntu created thing or a gnome 2.12 thing?08:10
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org__kennethlove, which icon?08:10
kennethloveorg__: whichever you want. when you make a new icon.08:10
kennethloveer, new shortcut, org__08:10
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org__kennethlove, i'm using gnome, and i want to put it up there just near firefox, right click and add panel?08:11
org__or what08:11
SurakI have issues with latest evolution and pgp.08:11
kennethloveorg__: yeah, add to panel, then add a launcher.08:11
lotusleafHappyFool, thanks for the info - packages.ubuntu.com lists gtranscode which is a frontend, but not transcode. So why does packages.ubuntu.com offer gtranscode and not transcode since transcode is required to use transcode???? That's very odd.08:12
Bad_Magiccan anyone tell me how to decrease the default DHCP wait time?08:12
HappyFoollotusleaf: check here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=transcode&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all08:12
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lotusleafis required to use gtranscode*08:12
LaxaaLethAL: It didn't work08:12
HappyFoolthe 'transcode' package is only available for breezy. maybe you can try hoary-backports or hoary-extras for transcode?08:12
org__great kennethlove08:12
SurakEvolution tries to sign messages using the wrong keyid. What should I do?08:12
LaxaaPlease use single characters only08:12
org__kennethlove, but i want to see where is the files located after i install it, i mean all the gnutella files, and directory how to find out where the apt-get saved it?08:13
lotusleafHappyFool, hoary-backports doesn't have it and hoary-extras isn't on ubuntu.com is it?08:13
Surakt tocando alguma coisa?08:13
kennethloveorg__: to find the executable file, you can type 'locate gtk-gnutella' in a terminal.08:13
HappyFoollotusleaf: no08:13
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HappyFool!tell lotusleaf about hoary-extras08:13
kennethloveorg__: the settings are probably in ~/.gtk-gnutella08:13
lotusleafHappyFool, ok thanks, I'd much rather stick to official Ubuntu repos08:14
org__i did that kennethlove but nothing08:14
dooglusorg__: or better 'locate bin/gtk-gnutella' to cut down on output08:14
HappyFoollotusleaf: fair enough. breezy'll be officially available october 13; if you're patient, you can get transcode then08:14
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LaxaaLethAL: sudo apt-get....did work, but not sudo -irt2500*.deb08:14
lotusleafHappyFool, thanks for your help, I appreciate it. :)08:14
underlinei need some help u guys... My MySQL isn't working... When i try to connect to it, it says that Localhost isn't allowed to connect... how could it be possible?? Any ideas how to fix it?? tkx08:14
james_does ubuntu Antianaylise the desktop?08:14
org__dooglus, also nothing08:14
lotusleafHappyFool, I guess there's always the compiling option. ;)08:15
dooglusorg__: if the package is installed, the binary is /usr/bin/gtk-gnutella08:15
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wesleyso..08:15
Bad_Magiccan anyone tell me how to decrease the default DHCP wait time?08:15
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wesleyi have a machine here with 1ghz, 256 and the ubuntu is runing faster then my notebook sempron 2.8 with 25608:16
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org__thanks alot guys08:16
[LethAL] wesley, use a power cable then08:16
wesleyso you think that can be any problem with mobily settings?08:16
wesleyi'm using08:16
[LethAL] Yeah, sound like it08:17
[LethAL] sounds*08:17
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deflux-Is nfs broken in ubuntu breezy preview?08:17
wesleythe cable is already connected08:18
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Whistleri need libqt3c102-mt how can i instal lit?08:18
tritiumjames_: yes, antialiasing can be configured in the font preferences08:18
[LethAL] wesley, I don't know anything about laptops and ubuntu or linux, sorry :(08:18
wesley:-(08:19
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james_tritium: thanks :)08:19
LaxaaHmmm...I'll guess I'll just get a regular router.....for now08:20
[LethAL] Laxaa, did it not work?08:20
LaxaaNo08:20
[LethAL] What did it say?08:20
LaxaaPlease use single characters only08:20
[LethAL] When?08:21
Laxaafor sudo -irt2500*.deb08:21
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underlinei need some help u guys... My MySQL isn't working... When i try to connect to it, it says that Localhost isn't allowed to connect... how could it be possible?? Any ideas how to fix it?? tkx08:21
LaxaaAnd for /msg ubotu rt250008:21
tritiumLaxaa: what on earth is that?08:21
LaxaaNo such directory exists08:21
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HappyFoolunderline: tried asking in #mysql?08:22
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[LethAL] Laxaa, cd to the directory with the debs in and do dpkg -i *.deb08:22
underlinetkx08:22
[LethAL] You do know about cd'ing, don't you?08:22
LaxaaNo08:22
LaxaaI just installed the system08:22
[LethAL] Um... well08:22
[LethAL] !cd08:22
flamiwhere do i get an newer version of firefox ?08:22
ubotu[LethAL] : Are you on ritalin?08:22
[LethAL] Damn :-(08:22
Whistleri need libqt3c102-mt how can i instal lit?08:22
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GDornany suggestions on how I could get ubuntu onto a laptop with no cdrom drive, no floppy drive, and no ability to boot from USB?08:23
Laxaa!cd in terminal?08:23
ubotuLaxaa: I haven't a clue08:23
[LethAL] Yes, that08:23
tritiumWhistler: apt-cache search for it.  Find it, and install it.08:23
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LaxaaOk08:23
FrdPrefctGDorn: Trhow the HD into another computer08:23
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TiMiDo!sound08:23
ubotuwell, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/08:23
thrice`I can't get my wireless going with my WN825G motorola card08:23
[LethAL] Laxaa, my bad about ubotu08:23
thrice`anyone help ?08:23
[LethAL] !wiki Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo08:23
FrdPrefctthrice`: Prob need to install ndiswrappers08:23
scorpix_i can't upgrade/run firefox in Hoary, i got this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GdZXha42.htm , how can i fix it?08:23
LaxaaThis is actally the first time Linux works on my computer08:23
vengefulthrice, breezy?08:24
[LethAL] Laxaa, do that !wiki command I did08:24
GDornFrdPrefct:  and then?  is there a point at which I should stop the install and move the hard drive back?08:24
LaxaaOk08:24
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Laxaa!wiki Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo08:25
[LethAL] Or rather, go to wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo08:25
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FrdPrefctGDorn: You could prob just let it go through, and then reconfigure08:25
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olcanI just installed ubuntu and web pages load a lot slower than windows, is this normal?08:25
LaxaaOk08:25
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thrice`[LethAL] : well, I can't get that without net08:25
[LethAL] olcan, no, install the Fastrfox extension for firefox08:25
FrdPrefctolcan:  http://www.purplenurple.org/wiki/index.php?n=Main.SpeedUpFirefox08:25
FrdPrefctolcan: Give that a try08:26
[LethAL] thrice`, what?08:26
olcanok thnx08:26
vengefulthrice  which ubuntu are you on?08:26
GDornolcan:  also, have you installed latest graphics drivers?  sometimes redraw is a bit slow until you do.08:26
thrice`hoary08:26
thrice`with no net08:26
LaxaaLethAL: i'll try it out08:26
thrice`I need to grab ndiswrapper and deps08:26
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braveheartciao08:27
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olcanI haven't installed anything other than the ubuntu cd08:27
FrdPrefctolcan: Did that help any?08:28
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vengefulbreezy seems to fix most peoples wireless problems..only 10 days from stable08:28
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egoleois pretty cool08:28
FrdPrefctbreezy is nice... install apt-get install wifi-radar08:28
tritiumwhat is, egoleo ?08:28
GDornwill breezy support usb wifi?08:28
FrdPrefctworks like a champ.08:28
thrice`I just need the driver working for a WN825G wireless08:28
egoleoi mean breezy08:28
[LethAL] GDorn, Depends which chipset?08:28
thrice`anyone ?08:28
TiMiDo!ac9708:29
ubotuTiMiDo: Did you get hit by a windmill?08:29
FrdPrefctGDorn: I don't see why not, just get a supported chipset08:29
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TiMiDo!sound08:29
ubotusound is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/08:29
bloodnikmake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.08:29
bloodnikHow do I go about getting build here?08:29
tritiumbloodnik: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`08:29
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GDorn[LethAL] , I'm pretty sure it's one of the prisms.  It's a dlink dwl121something.  I just heard that usb wifi was iffy at best.08:29
tritiumwhat are you building, bloodnik ?08:29
olcani'm on it08:29
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bloodnikprism5.408:29
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thrice`noone good iwth wireless eh ?08:29
bloodnikprism5408:29
[LethAL] GDorn, I think prisms work well08:30
[LethAL] thrice`, why?08:30
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thrice`i can't get my WN825G working08:30
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janne_NewbieHi All...! I have one simple guestion..?  Where i change splash screen...?08:30
tritiumthrice`: which chipset?08:30
[LethAL] ^^08:30
FrdPrefctthrice`: Several people, including myself, have given you suggestions... we can't DO it for you.08:30
thrice`it's a motorola WN825G wireless card08:30
kennethlovejanne_Newbie:08:30
thrice`FrdPrefct: well, that's for an RT250008:30
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thrice`will that work ?08:30
tritiumyes, which chipset, thrice` ?08:30
kennethlovejanne_Newbie: System -> Preferences -> Splash Screen08:31
thrice`tritium: the wireless card?08:31
TiMiDo!backport08:31
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, backport is see !backports08:31
TiMiDo!backports08:31
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports08:31
tritiumthrice`: of course08:31
thrice`tritium: Motorola WN825G08:31
Whistleri need libqt3c102-mt how can i instal it? Theres no such thing in apt08:31
[LethAL] thrice`, chipset, not model number08:31
tritiumIs that the card, or the chipset, thrice` ?08:31
tritiumWhistler: yes it is08:31
janne_Newbieok...08:31
thrice`card; how do I determine the chipset of it ?08:31
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Whistlerwhere?08:31
thrice`hrm...couyld be RT250008:32
Kaparenwhat kind of information does the xorg.conf file contain?08:32
[LethAL] thrice`, but that card is PCMCIA, no?08:32
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[LethAL] that = your*08:32
WhistlerKaparen your video and other settings08:32
tritium!info libqt3c102-mt08:32
ubotulibqt3c102-mt: (Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3), section libs, is optional. Version: 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2890 kB, Installed size: 7228 kB08:32
thrice`yes08:32
tritiumsee, Whistler ?08:32
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rendellhelp: how to fix broken packages in synaptic.08:32
Whistlerhmm08:32
GDornmotorola WN825G08:32
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GDornchipset broadcom 430608:33
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thrice`ah08:33
thrice`thanks GDorn08:33
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GDornyou will probably need to use a ndis wrapper08:33
tritiumyep08:33
GDorngoogle is your friend.08:33
thrice`ok; it's for myt friend...i've never touched wireless in my life =|08:33
WhistlerHowever the following packages replace it:08:33
Whistler  libqt3-mt08:33
Whistler but the program still needs original one08:33
Whistlersorry for flood08:34
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Chousukewireless is good <308:34
thrice`mmk, i'll try er out =] 08:34
thrice`bbiab08:34
[LethAL] Chousuke, and so are microsoft08:34
olcanFrdPrefect. it si still sloww, it takes a lot at the "looking up..." and the it is kind of slow drawing the pictures.08:34
vengefulwell thrice if the wrapper doesnt work probably best for your friend to try breezy...has much better wireless support..no idea if that motorola in included tho08:34
ChousukeLethal: By what logic? :P08:35
KaparenWhistler: so by let's say I would replace my xorg.conf with my worg.conf.backup file I wouldnt lose my updates?08:35
[LethAL] Chousuke, sarcasm08:35
Kaparenjust my vid settings.08:35
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ChousukeLethal: I fail to see any reason for sarcasm.08:35
WhistlerKaparen i really dont think so but do not do that08:35
[LethAL] Because Wireless sucsk...08:35
Whistleroh08:35
ChousukeYou haven't used a laptop much then.08:36
bipolaris anyone using amarok in breezy? I'm having trouble with it erroring out when it can't run kmail and closing. I can't find out what part of it needs kmail. I don't want to have to install it.08:36
WhistlerKaparen you  mean sys updates?08:36
WhistlerKaparen you wont lose them08:36
[LethAL] Chousuke, no, I haven't08:36
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Kaparenyes! ah ok thanks!08:36
ChousukeLethal: You have no right to comment then.08:36
Chousuke:)08:36
[LethAL] Chousuke, I wasn't assuming you were on about Laptops though :P08:36
Chousukea 12" laptop + campus WLAN = rok08:36
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vengefula 12" laptop is abit pointless08:37
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vengefulhehe08:37
[LethAL] I have a Broadcom-based router, rt2570-based adapter and that's not very good ;)08:37
kennethlovenot when it's a 12" ibook. :)08:37
Chousukevengeful: It's just the right size08:37
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vengefulfor what, exactly?08:37
kbrooksback ;)08:37
Chousukekennethlove: and it's even better when it's a powerbook08:37
Chousukefor poetability.08:37
tritiumwelcome back, kbrooks08:37
Chousukeportability :P08:37
kennethloveChousuke: there's really not much difference. :) and ibook's are prettier.08:38
Chousuke15" is too bulky.08:38
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KaparenI got stuck updating and had to rebbot and do a 'dpkg --configure -a' to continue my update, but it totally mesed up my graphics. Couldnt boot Ubuntu so I rolled back my xorg.conf and did the whole nvidia manual settings stuff again.08:38
Chousukekennethlove: I prefer the metallic colour.08:38
vengefulhmm one of my laptops is 17" hehe08:38
kennethloveChousuke: yeah, whatever. :P08:38
Chousukehuge!08:38
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Chousukekennethlove: besides, PBs have a more powerful 3d card ;P08:38
_johnhey, does anyone know how to install quake 3 demo on linux?08:39
vengefulthats more of a desktop replacement tho..i mainly use my inspiron 6000..which is 1508:39
_johnits a .gz.sh file08:39
Chousukeand I own a PB. case closed. D:08:39
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kennethloveChousuke: can't say i do much 3d, so it'd be wasted.08:39
Kaparenso what exactly does the "dpkg --configure -a" command do?08:39
_johni run the script, and it says something about /var/tmp/kdecache-john and /var/tmp/kdecache-root08:39
vengefulconfigures stuff08:39
TiMiDohey how come when i open xmms i can play a song but it doesn't sound anything08:39
TiMiDowhat can i do?08:39
thrice`any once I have ndiswrapper installed ?  any good howtos anywhere ?08:39
Chousukevengeful: you can't carry a 17" laptop in one hand.08:39
tritiumKaparen: man dpkg ;)08:39
thrice`I found one on google, but many have said it doesn't work very well08:40
Whistlerany other good bit torrent client than azureus?08:40
Chousukenot very easily at least.08:40
[LethAL] !ndiswrapper08:40
uboturumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper08:40
kennethlovewhat would a "GC Warning" be? GC?08:40
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vengefuli just use the default one, whistler..seems to do the job08:40
tritiumthrice`: also, familiarize yourself with wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation08:40
Whistlervengeful is it possible to change port with default one?08:41
Kaparenthanks tritium. sorry, I a reaaal newbie at this Linux stuff08:41
olcancould anyone tell me how to access root folders?08:41
vengefulsudo08:41
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vengefulsorry whistler?08:41
virgulei am doing dist-upgrade to breezy and I see a lot of locale settings failure like this: http://pastebin.com/381821   whats up?08:41
Whistleri need to change default port08:41
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vengefulah gotcha...dunno...never needed to ;-)08:42
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umberleighhi. i want to change my firewall front-end from guarddog to firestarter. can i just uninstall one and install the other, or do i need to worry about iptables stuff?08:44
james_anyone know of good freeware Linux games??08:44
james_been searching, linuxgames.org have a list but not enough pictures :)08:44
naliothumberleigh: you dont have to uninstall anything08:45
kennethlovejames_: frozen-bubble08:45
naliothumberleigh: just use the one you want08:45
umberleighnalioth: okay. thanks08:45
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james_kennethlove: looks interesting :)08:45
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kbrooksnalioth: can you read me? ;)08:46
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GDornoh, that looks like, um, what was that game on windows?  snootch?  sneetch?  splortch?08:46
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_johnhow do you pronounce debian?08:48
_johndee-bee-an?08:48
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_johndeb-ee-an?08:48
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kennethlove_john: dee-bee-ann08:49
spolait's like Debby-An :p08:49
ericzhow's ubuntu pronounced?08:49
ericzyou bunt too ?08:49
_johnoo-boon-too08:49
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_johnit was in the ubuntu guide if i recall correctly08:49
ericzhow about linux? is it linn uxx or line uxx ?08:49
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_johni do lin-ixx or lin-ux08:49
_johnwell linus torvalds said how to pronounce it, im sure if you google it you can find it.08:50
_johni just always wondered how to say debian >_<08:50
tritium_john: it's the combination of the names Deb (short for Deborah) and Ian08:51
dashericz: there is a classic answer to your question08:51
ericzclassic answer, really, what is it?08:51
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spolai pronounce linux like i do linus, and it's not with the u from 'us'08:51
Chousukelinuxhas a long i I think08:51
Chousukelinus* even08:52
Chousukeand maybe linux too08:52
ChousukeI tend to pronounce it with only a short i though.08:52
_johntritium: OH, that makes sense08:52
_johnare there .ian files <_,08:52
_john*<_<08:52
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tritiumno, it's not long08:52
ericzwell i never really have to say it, usually just type it08:52
_johnsame08:52
nicks68I have trubble printing to my printer. Is connected to a D-link router, My old debian used printcap with :rm=192.168.11.129:\   and :rp=lp:\. I cant get to work in ubuntu 5.10. What shod i trye?08:52
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tritium_john: heh.  There's more info on the Debian history page08:52
vengefuland even when you say you use it...99% of people say "huh?"08:52
dashericz: http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/08:53
Chousuketritium: Most linuses I've heard have had a long i08:53
_johntritium: i should look into that08:53
thrice`ok08:53
dashChousuke: most of them are not from .fi, I bet08:53
thrice`when I try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, it says operation not permitted08:53
tritiumChousuke: linus himself recorded the proper pronunciation, and it's not long08:53
thrice`it won't let me insert it08:53
Chousukedash: from .se I guess.08:53
ericzwow dash, he sures has an accent08:53
kbrooksdashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?08:53
thrice`anyone have any ideas?08:54
ChousukeI somehow thought it had a long i because it's a swedish name.08:54
kbrooksdash: do you use ubuntu?08:54
dashkbrooks: Surprise.08:54
Chousukebut who cares08:54
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dashChousuke: Yeah, it's a little weird08:54
Chousukeat least I don't pronounce NES as Any-es or IRC as I R C :P08:54
thrice`cant' insert ndiswrapper.ko08:54
dashChousuke: apparently he is from a swedish-speaking family in .fi08:54
Chousukedash: yeah08:54
spolaChousuke,  so you say what? erk?08:55
tritiumdash: are you one of the incredibles?  ;)08:55
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dashtritium: i was a bit miffed by that movie08:55
dashtritium: they infringed on my trademark08:55
dash;)08:55
tritiumheh08:55
Chousukespola: same i as in linux08:55
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Chousukeand then rk08:55
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No1Viking!tell em about iso08:55
No1Viking!tell me about mount08:56
thrice`hrm08:56
kbrooksNo1Viking: No. use /msg.08:56
thrice`any idea why the ndiswrapper module would fail ?08:56
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No1Vikingkbrooks: ok08:56
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thrice`=[08:57
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kbrooksNo1Viking: /msg ubotu factoids08:57
Chousukeand hm08:57
SchteenSomeone able to help a noob out? :s08:57
Chousuketritium: Linus does pronounce his name in that with a long i :P08:57
thrice`i have restricted modules installed08:58
HappyFoolSchteen: just ask your question; if someone can help, they will08:58
tritiumnot in "linux", Chousuke08:58
ChousukeYes.08:58
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ChousukeBut I was talking about his name.08:58
ubuntuhola08:58
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HappyFoolthrice`: you've followed the ndiswrapper instructions on the wiki?08:58
ubuntuhay alguien de Colombia?08:58
nalioth!es08:58
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:58
No1VikingHow do I mount a ISO image?08:58
SchteenRighto.. I just got Ubuntu installed on my laptop, but when I boot up it crashes at the login screen..08:58
dashSchteen: greetings, human. state the nature of the emergency08:58
vengefulthrice i had a pretty useless experience with ndisweapper in other distros08:58
tritiumChousuke: we were talking about linux08:58
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ubuntuhola08:59
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thrice`HappyFool: yes; I got my .inf driver loaded, but modprobe ndiswrapper, and it failed08:59
SchteenP.S: Ubuntu is my first meeting with linux :P08:59
ubuntuhay alguna chica colombiana?08:59
Chousuketritium: I changed the topic :P08:59
tritiumubuntu: /join #ubuntu-es08:59
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brosiowhere should i put my module after that i've make it ?08:59
dashSchteen: What kind of crash, exactly?08:59
HappyFoolthrice`: hrm, ok. sorry, can't help more08:59
ChousukeI think he's looking for girls. maybe.08:59
Chousuke:D08:59
vengefulcrashes ..in what way schteen?08:59
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vengefuldisplay?08:59
Schteenwell more of a freeze..08:59
thrice`tritium: any idea why the ndiswrapper module would fail to insert itself ?08:59
SchteenUnable to move mouse cursor and don't get any reaction from hammering keyboard etc08:59
dashSchteen: Hmm, nasty.09:00
dashSchteen: What video card do you have?09:00
vengefulbut the display itself isnt garbled?09:00
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Schteennah, looks ok.. First time I thought it was loading some stuff, but it just stays for ages09:00
spiralhi09:01
vengefulah hm not sure then...i know some dell laptops can crash due to the chipset not being supported yet.....that seems to work ok in breezy though09:01
tritiumthrice`: sorry, no09:01
SchteenHm, breezy supports a wider range?09:01
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fizzleubotu repository09:02
ubotufizzle: Are you smoking crack?09:02
vengefulbreezy(in my opinion) is amazing for support09:02
fizzleubotu tell fizzle what is repository09:02
SchteenI'll give Breezy a try instead then :] 09:02
fizzleubotu tell fizzle what is fluxbox09:02
vengefuleven detected my belkin wireless in my desktop....even windows hates belkin hehe09:02
fizzleubotu tell me what is fluxbox09:02
kbrooksfizzle: do not play with the bot09:02
HappyFoolfizzle: try '!tell me about fluxbox'09:02
ericz!tell fizzle about fluxbox09:02
GDorn!tell me about fluxbox09:02
fizzleim trying to figure out how to set up synaptic so i can download fluxbox09:02
vengefulerm09:03
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vengefulsearch for fluxbox09:03
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vengefulclick it09:03
vengefulapply marked changes09:03
vengefuland done09:03
fizzle!tell fizzle about repository09:03
ericzsynaptic is so simple09:03
fizzlei need a list of repositories09:03
dashsynaptic confuses me09:03
HappyFoolwell, once the repositories are setup09:03
kbrooksubotu: playwithbot is <reply>Do not play with me, please. Message me instead.09:03
ubotukbrooks: okay09:03
HappyFool!tell fizzle about repos09:03
dashcompared to aptitude, anyway09:03
fizzlety09:03
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kbrooks!playwithbot09:03
ubotuDo not play with me, please. Message me instead.09:03
GDornI'm a little vague on windowmanagers...  if I switch to a different one, say, fluxbox, does it mean I'm going to have to manually build menus again?09:03
vengefulyou might need to with flixbox actually09:04
dashGDorn: it oughta load the debian standard menus09:04
vengefulflux*09:04
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vengefulif you fancy a change xfce4 works well in ubuntu09:04
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HappyFooldash: that's just cos you're a crusty old cli debian user :P09:04
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dashHappyFool: Possibly09:04
Whistleris there any people experienced with siemens routers?09:04
Belutz!botsnack09:05
ubotu:)09:05
dashHappyFool: I've only been using aptitude for a year, really09:05
mantas_has someone problems with nvidia and Xorg with breezy?09:05
GDornI tend to use apt-get for packages I know the names of, and synapse only when I need to search for something that I can't recall09:05
dashHappyFool: (i still miss dselect, sometimes)09:05
vengefultry xfce , gdorn09:06
shediGDorn, you can use apt-cache search package09:06
HappyFooldash: well, i've only been rpm-free for a year or so, so my experience is limited; i see dselect is still there though09:06
GDornhmm.09:06
vengefuli cant decide which to use actually...gnome or xfce09:06
naliothvengeful: why not enlightenment?09:06
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dashnalioth: hahaha09:06
Schteenvengeful, hehe seems I was in fact using Breezy :P09:07
dashHappyFool: well, aptitude has some actual real improvements09:07
Schteenoh well, thanks anyway09:07
vengefulick then09:07
vengefulhey dont give up09:07
nicks68Hi, i can't play mp3 with ubuntu 5.1009:07
dashHappyFool: like tracking packages that were installed automatically as dependencies09:07
vengefulnalioth i used to use it in mdnrake09:07
vengefuli just think its kinda outdated09:07
shedinicks68, what program are you trying to use to play mp309:07
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dashHappyFool: and removing them when the manually-installed packages that depend on them are removed09:07
GDornhere's a little pet peeve of mine:  windowmanagers that don't map the upper-right-pixel of the screen to the 'close' button on a maximized window.  there's only one gnome theme in ubuntu that doesn't have a border in the way up there, and it's ugly...09:07
vengefulschteen what laptop you got?09:08
nicks68Totem09:08
vengefultry xmms09:08
dashGDorn: that sounds like a feature rather than a bug :)09:08
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vengefulor theres a guide on the bot.....but i forgot the command09:08
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BurgerMannHumn. How do I browse and search amongst currently installed packages on my system?...09:08
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Belutzwewwww do much update on xorg09:08
Darknighthello09:08
nicks68apt-get xmms09:08
Belutz*so09:08
dashBurgerMann: synaptic or aptitude09:09
naliothvengeful: e17 will change your opinion09:09
dashnalioth: hahaha09:09
GDorndash:  it's neither.  it's just bad gui design.  I _like_ being able to close a window without looking.09:09
dashGDorn: alt+f409:09
shedinicks68, you need also xmms-mad09:09
GDorn(yeah, I know, keyboard)09:09
BurgerManndash, aptitude it is I guess, since I'm not using x09:09
dashBurgerMann: Hooray09:09
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dashanyway09:09
shedinicks68, no I'm talking bull09:09
esacGDorn: i always used to hate that too. then i started using windows like they were _meant_ to be used (not maximizing all of them) and that problem went away09:09
nate_at_homeOkay, check this one out - http://www.speedphreak.com/~nathanf/pref.png09:09
dashanybody upgrade Eclipse today?09:09
pixelmonkeyGDorn: I'm pretty sure some hack of a gtkrc could fix that for you.09:09
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BurgerManndash: huh? :p09:09
Schteenvengeful, HP Pavillion, AMD processor (not sure on chipset)09:09
Darknightanyone know here about tvtime and bttv under breezy? I have a problem to get it to work09:09
procrastinationnyo yo09:09
nate_at_homemy xmms and mplayer menus look like that with the text all garbled09:10
pixelmonkeyGDorn: me too, use CTRL+W.  Trust me, it's healthier.  You shouldn't use your mouse so much.09:10
Belutzanyone using sylpheed-claws yet as primary email client?09:10
GDornyeah, I know.  I have minor wrist pain already, which has lead me to switch to dvorak for typing.09:10
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esacoh great, another "dvorak fixes my wrist pain" story09:11
dashhee09:11
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GDornwell, it fixed the pain in my _left_ wrist...09:11
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GDornbut I mouse too much.09:11
nicks68xmms works fine, thanks.09:11
esacGDorn: switching to dvorak doesn't fix your wrist pain. switching to _any_other_keyboard_style fixes your wrist pain just the same09:11
GDornuh, how's that?09:11
dasha lot of wrist pain is often simple dehydration09:11
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esacGDorn: i had tons of wrist pain. now i vary my keyboards once a week (flat, microsoft natural, different curves). ive even learned to start using my mouse left handed09:12
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BurgerMannaptitude is way better than synaptic :S... sorry I first know now :S09:12
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barongasAny recommended ftp program witha gui for debian? Looking for something with functionality of flashxp.09:12
dashif you're not drinking 3-4L of water a day, your joints can't lubricate properly long term09:12
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esacGDorn: because you are consistently using the same posture and same muscles in the exact same way, thats what causes rsi/pain. "switching it up" solves a lot of problems09:12
dashBurgerMann: isn't it fun? :)09:12
pixelmonkeyGDorn, yea, I agree.  The major thing to alleviating wrist pain is switching your static configuration.09:12
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BurgerManndash, yah.. hilarious :P09:13
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fizzlehey anyone here use fluxbox?09:13
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butcherbirdfizzle: yes09:13
procrastinationnnope09:13
dashBurgerMann: make sure to ply minesweeper while waiting for your packages to download09:13
GDornesac:  that still doesn't discount that some keyboard layouts require more difficult hand positions than others.09:13
fizzlebutcherbird, does your fluxbox run slow?09:13
PepperHmmm...09:13
BurgerManndash, lol09:13
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butcherbirdfizzle: super freaky fast actually =)09:13
fizzlebutcherbird, when changing styles09:13
esacnod pixelmonkey , i've been through 12 doctors, i dont have carpal tunnel, but i have/had major wrist pain all the time. the last doctor suggested i switch things up and almost immediately the pain went away. i still get it but not nearly as often09:13
BurgerManndash, or pacman09:14
fizzlebutcherbird, and you got it off of the repository or did you compile from source?09:14
ulaasHey, who is responsible from LaunchPad..09:14
dashBurgerMann: aptitude doesn't have pacman builtin09:14
esacGDorn: ive been there. i used dvorak for 2 years. the pain came back once i became used to typing that way all of the time.09:14
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ulaasBring me the guy i will kiss him!09:14
barongasOk, anyone have any tips for ftp-programs I should NOT install? Cause if you don't have any good recommendations I'll have to apt-get every ftp program and try em out :)09:14
PepperAnybody can help me on how to configure ubuntu to access the internet through PPPOE?09:14
BurgerManndash, but it has minesweeper??09:14
dashBurgerMann: Surprise!09:14
Whistleri am trying to forward ports.Can anybody try to connect to my ip using vncviewer 85.206.161.186:590009:14
butcherbirdfizzle: repo, it does take a few seconds when switching styles but after that its fine09:14
esacPepper: lftp is good09:14
BurgerManndash: rofl..09:14
procrastinationngftp barongas09:14
BurgerManndash: thought you were joking..09:14
fizzlek just checking if it was just nme09:14
butcherbirdfizzle: p3 650 256mb ram09:14
WhistlerCan anybody try to connect to my ip using vncviewer 85.206.161.186:590009:15
fizzlebutcherbird, 1.5GHz 128mb of ram09:15
Pepper?09:15
dashBurgerMann: I'm always serious.09:15
Whistleri need to test is my router working correctly09:15
barongasprocrastinationn: I'll check it out (unless it was something I shouldn't try :) )09:15
BurgerManndash: lol, you're right.. heh.. how nice of them09:15
procrastinationnits good you can get it in synaptic09:15
dashhrrrm09:15
fizzlealso i have another question. ive configured my Xorg to support 1280x1024 resolution and for some reason it wont go beyond 1024x786 or w/e it is09:15
dasheclipse is busted.09:15
GDornesac:  maybe it's working for me due to having different keyboards on different computers?  I've got a laptop with a smaller keyboard, a computer at work with a natural keyboard, and a flat one at home.  thing is, I had all of those with qwerty, and the only difference between then and now is dvorak.  and the lack of wrist pain (except for mousing)09:16
thrice`=|09:16
WhistlerCan anybody try to connect to my ip using vncviewer 85.206.161.186:590009:16
thrice`oh well, guess it wasn't meant to be09:16
Pepperesac, I didn't ask for an ftp client...09:16
butcherbirdfizzle: configured horz and vert rates?09:16
ericzwhistler, not working09:16
fizzlebutcherbird, indeed. i used the xorgcfg tool09:16
Whistlerericz thx :( i am so angry i cant make my router to forward ports :(09:16
PepperAnybody can help me on how to configure ubuntu to access the internet through PPPOE?09:16
ericztimes out09:16
ompaulGDorn, actually learning to use an old style typewriter  correctly gives good posture and has stood me in good stead for over 20 years - sitting correctly works - think about typing pools - they did not have that problem - only when people got bad habits -that is not a medical or techinal opinion - it is mine :)09:17
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nate_at_homecan anyone help me with some font problems in xmms?09:17
esacGDorn: it comes down to just the fact that it is something new. it _will_ help your wrist pain, but your wrist pain will come back. you need typing breaks, and to learn to use your mouse left handed, and pick up some odd keyboards09:17
procrastinationnanyone heard of xlink linux installer09:17
esacGDorn: do not use wrist straps when typing. at night time is ok, but never when typing09:18
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butcherbirdfizzle: well i never use about 1024x786 because of my crappy computer =) never ran into that sorry09:18
fizzleah09:18
fizzleok ill check my config again09:18
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GDornesac:  it's been new for two years?09:18
butcherbird76809:18
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esacGDorn: go to a few doctors. i got work to pay for some odd keyboards because of it :)09:18
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HappyFoolPepper: how's this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE09:19
thrice`ndiswrapper is borked =|  oh well...thanks anyways09:19
bob2thrice`: so file a bug09:19
HappyFoolthrice`: you can try installing a new version09:19
HappyFoolthrice`: ndiswrapper.sf.net09:19
bob2or exchange your wireless card for one with real drivers09:19
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PepperHappyFool: It's not an ADSL connection, but I guess it'll work. Thanks for the hint09:19
GDornheh.  actually, the pain in my right wrist is the only one that's left, and it's getting better because I'm mousing with a trackball and a mouse in turn.  that, and actually using it in exercise.  but, yeah, mice are generally evil, and I might get a footmouse.09:20
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thrice`bob2: it's a motorola WN825G; actually, ndiswrapper won't let me insert kernel modules09:20
thrice`sudo modprobe ndiswrapper fails09:20
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ghbI'm having some troubles installing Ubuntu, can someone please help me?09:20
HappyFoolghb: can you be more specific?09:20
esacGDorn: left handed, make sure everything is 1 click (trust me you'll get used to it)09:21
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ghbHappyFool: The computer boots up from the CD, uncompresses the kernel, and boots it... But then it doesn't do anything else; it just sits there... =/09:21
ghbHappyFool: It displays a message, saying that it's running the kernel, but nothing happens.09:21
PepperPlus, I haven't created (I wasn't asked) any root user, I assumed it would be there as administrator, and the password would be the same as the first user I created.09:22
HappyFoolghb: hmm. ouch. where'd you get the cd from?09:22
HappyFool!tell pepper about sudo09:22
bob2Pepper: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:22
bob2Pepper: the installer did tell you about it...09:22
ghbHappyFool: I downloaded it. I've run a checksum test, and it reports 2 errors. But those file are 0 kb large. =/09:22
bob2ghb: then check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded09:23
barongasAnyone have any experience with mounting .mdf files? Anything special I should do?09:23
ghbHappyFool: I'm currently redownloading the ISO-file, and will run a checksum test on it and then... Yeah, was just doing that. ;)09:23
esacwhy is it that everytime i run a dist-upgrade it seems like i always get "will use 31M more disk space". eventually this sucker will bloat09:23
bob2barongas: what is that?09:23
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[LethAL] bob2, it's like iso/bin-cue09:23
sepmikeanyone noticed that with breezy the GA311 from netgear can't get link speed 1000mb/s (1gb) ??09:23
bob2wtf09:23
Belutzbob2, will thunderbird 1.0.7 included in the breezy release repos?09:23
[LethAL] CD Image, that's the word09:23
PepperThanks, that explains it.09:23
barongasbob2 I'm not sure, a patch for a win-game I'm cxofficing09:23
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PepperDo you know if the first link you sent me for ADSL connections will also work for a LAN connection?09:24
Chousukeesac: apt-get remove works ;)09:24
bob2Pepper: no09:24
HappyFoolPepper: not a clue, sorry09:24
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PepperOk, thanks.09:24
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bob2Belutz: I'd assume so09:24
Pepperbob2: How to configure a PPPOE connection, then?09:24
ghbIs there anything in particular I should think about when installing Ubuntu on a laptop?09:24
[LethAL] sepmike, that's hardly crucial though, is it?09:24
bob2Pepper: read that wiki page09:24
Belutzbob2, :)09:24
esacghb: no, thinking is generally bad, mmmmkay09:25
[LethAL] Pepper, is it by any chance a speedtouch modem?09:25
sepmike[LethAL]  it's vital09:25
ghbesac: Mmmkaay.. =)09:25
bob2Belutz: if only because it will have yet more security issues i nthe future an dhave to be updated09:25
[LethAL] sepmike, what, to your ego?09:25
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sepmike[LethAL]  point being it was at link speed 1000 before dist-upgrade09:25
[LethAL] O.O09:26
[LethAL] bug09:26
sepmikeme thinks09:26
sepmikejust wanted to know if anyone else had seen it09:26
[LethAL] Go file one ;)09:26
sepmikei've tried it on Linux ubuntu 2.6.11-1-amd64-k8  and  Linux XEON 2.6.12-8-38609:26
ompaulsepmike, how fast is it now?09:27
sepmikeslow as all heck, shows speeds of 100mb on ethtool output09:27
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PoTsI can't find ncftp in the repositories.  which is the best way to install ncftp on ubuntu breezy?09:27
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sepmikebut I can't get faster than ~600KB/s or so09:27
[LethAL] Ouch09:27
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bob2sepmike: 2.6.11 is useless, don't even bother09:28
ghbHappyFool: The ISO file is intact, and I used Deamon Tools to run another checksum test on it. It reports the same 2 errors... =/09:28
bob2PoTs: /msg ubotu repositories09:28
bob2it's in universe09:28
esachow can i put my laptop to sleep? closing the lid doesnt seem to help09:28
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bob2esac: sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh09:28
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bob2esac: make sure everything is saved, etc09:28
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ghbWhich release should I be using?09:29
esacbob2: it didn't do anything09:29
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[LethAL] Anyone know why my PC doesn't actually switch off but doesn't switch back on when I hibernate?09:29
ompaulghb in terms of linux how would you rate yourself?09:29
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HappyFoolghb: the md5sum of the iso image is ok?09:29
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bob2[LethAL] : because it didn't hibernate?09:30
HappyFoolghb: i'm not sure what you mean when you say 'checksum', i'm afraid09:30
ghbHappyFool: yes.09:30
sambagirlanyone install this? desktop planetarium for KDE ?09:30
[LethAL] bob2, No, I mean more like it went on standby09:30
sambagirlit is in synaptic?09:30
ompaulHappyFool, checksum = md5sum09:30
[LethAL] bob2, Normally when I hibernate, everthing goes off09:30
sambagirlit wants to remove gnome things, is this wise?09:30
ompaulHappyFool, checksum = md5sum output (in actual foot)09:30
[LethAL] Normally = in windows09:30
sambagirlis gnome and kde in war?09:30
ompaulHappyFool, *fact09:30
HappyFoolompaul: foot?09:31
[LethAL] sambagirl, There are no wars in OSS09:31
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bob2[LethAL] : right, so it didn't actually work09:31
ghbHappyFool: I mean the MD5 checksum.09:31
HappyFoolompaul: ah09:31
[LethAL] bob2, that's the impression I get09:31
Belutzsambagirl, we are at war with the terrorist :)09:31
HappyFoolghb: and what two errors are those?09:31
sambagirlyou meaning Bush family? :)09:31
bob2[LethAL] : file a bug, including model numbers, /var/log/dmesg output, and anythign you see in the screen09:31
[LethAL] Terrorist? Don't you mean Borg?09:31
Belutzhahaha09:31
[LethAL] Bug with what exactly? Mobo info?09:31
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HappyFoolghb: i mean, the two files you referred to earlier09:31
sambagirlso it wants to remove gnome things is that ok? will it hijack my desktop?09:32
Belutzsambagirl, it's ok to remove gnome, you can install any windows manager you like, such as KDE, xfce, etc09:32
sambagirlwill there be problems?09:32
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sambagirlahh ok09:32
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sambagirlwell which is better?09:32
ghbHappyFool: .\install\netboot\pxelinux.cfg\default09:32
ghb.\install\netboot\pxelinux.009:32
cmathesonhey guys, what's the best way to use an IMAP account w/ mutt? (in the past i always had POP so i used fetchmail/mutt... it seems mutt is also able to directly access pop/imap accounts but is that the preferred method?09:32
Belutzsambagirl, but if you have a lot of hdd space, try to install other window manager without removing gnome09:32
ulaasis it safe to upgrade the colony5 to whats latest?09:32
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bob2[LethAL] : ? with the above info.09:33
sambagirli have 2 gig a bytes09:33
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Belutzsambagirl, if you satisfied, then you may remove gnome :)09:33
HappyFoolghb: hmm. what iso is this? breezy preview?09:33
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bob2cmatheson: I'm quite happy with offlineimap dumping mail onto my disk, with mutt just reading it09:33
Belutzsambagirl, personally i prefer gnome09:33
ghbHappyFool: Think so. It's version 5.1009:33
sambagirlwell i want to look at this desktop planetarium for KDE09:33
[LethAL] bob2, Will I still have said log after force-off'ing my PC and then rebooting it?09:33
sambagirli think it is like starry knights09:33
ghbHappyFool: Should I try using 5.04 instead?09:33
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sambagirlspace thing09:33
HappyFoolghb: maybe try 5.04 instead; 5.10 isn't officially released yet09:33
sepmikeyou say 2.6.11-1-amd64-k8  is useless?09:33
HappyFoolghb: your telepath is obviously working well tonight09:34
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ghbHappyFool: ^^ Indeed it is.09:34
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[LethAL] sepmike, The whole 2.6.11 is09:34
[LethAL] brb09:34
sambagirli suppose i can always go and reinstall gnome if i am not happy09:34
sambagirlok thanks09:34
Belutzsambagirl, then try installing kubuntu-desktop09:34
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sambagirlhow?09:34
sepmike2.6.12 is better?09:34
ghbHappyFool: Thanks for the help. I'll return if it doesn't work.09:34
ulaasis it safe to upgrade the colony5 to whats latest?09:34
HappyFoolsambagirl: it's called kstars09:34
cmathesonbob2: hmm, that sounds cool.  i kind of prefer being able to keep the mail online (in case i need to access the mail at home), but also be able to filter the mail into seperate folders (for my mailing lists and what not)... anyway, is it even possible to do that kind of filtering online?  (i've done it w/ procmail, but that certainly seems like i would have to store it on-disk)09:34
Belutzsambagirl, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:34
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HappyFoolsambagirl: that is, the desktop planetarium is in the kstars package09:35
EazyVGhow is the latest kernel, 2.6.12/13, with SATA-II and NCQ. Suported or not.09:35
Belutzsambagirl, and you could always run kde apps in gnome09:35
ghbHappyFool: It's this file, right? ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso09:35
EazyVGCan't find a word on this09:35
GDornif I install kubuntu-desktop and decide I don't like it, can I just uninstall it and have my old settings still?09:35
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HappyFoolghb: i think so09:35
GDornI don't feel like losing them.09:35
ghbHappyFool: Righto.09:35
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HappyFoolghb: there shouldn't be any md5sum errors with that one09:35
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tamalegetting a base system installation error...   is bad media most likely to blame?09:35
ulaassambagirl, and you can always chat while downloading. You dont need  to run...09:35
sambagirlwhat i like is you not needing to reboot after everything09:36
ccooketamala: new install?09:36
tamaleyes09:36
ccooketamale: the error happens when?09:36
tamalemade it through partitioning fine09:36
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sambagirlno no it lose the connectoin or something it restarted server connection09:36
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ccooketamale: Sounds like a media error. Can you burn a new copy of the disk?09:36
tamalelemme see if i can look at the log/bootstrap.log file to get more deatils09:36
Belutzsambagirl, HappyFool said the package name is kstars, try installing it and run it in gnome09:36
sambagirllet me try this  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:36
tamaleyeah i just hate usin up cd after cd lol09:36
HappyFoolEazyVG: i believe the ubuntu kernel is somewhat patched; i'm not sure that running stock kernels is such a good idea09:37
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sambagirlit says it want to remove gnome stuff09:37
sambagirlit is in synaptik09:37
bob2[LethAL] : no, it will be regenerated09:37
ccooketamale: it is actually possible to install from a corrupt disk if you have a network connection, but...09:37
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HappyFoolsambagirl: what does it want to remove?09:37
EazyVGHappyFool: inot plain vanilla, but the one with 5.1009:37
sambagirla bunch of things09:37
Belutzsambagirl, it's ok09:37
sambagirlwhat is ok?09:37
sambagirllol09:37
bob2cmatheson: I don't know what you mean; I use procmail to filter mail on the machine running the imap server09:37
Belutzsambagirl, lol :D09:37
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esac/etc/acpi/sleep.sh doesn't do anything. anybody know why ?09:37
ccooketamale: thankfully, Ubuntu is using the debian installer, which is *very* sendible. I've managed a complete and working install of Ubuntu from a cracked CD :-)09:38
_jasonI just tried setting sound to play on an even in xchat and it doesn't work.  Do I have to make it use ESD somehow?09:38
sambagirllol09:38
Belutzsambagirl, you are trying to install kubuntu-desktop right?09:38
ulaasis it safe to upgrade the colony5 to whats latest? Ok No answers. i did the upgrade and i will blame all of you out there if it breaks smthng. :)09:38
sambagirldo this do that remove this remove that haha09:38
sambagirllol09:38
sambagirli guess09:38
Belutzlol09:38
tamaleif it's so sendible why does it keep erroring out09:38
HappyFoolEazyVG: i don't understand your question09:38
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tamaleit's weird that there's so many media problems with linux..09:38
Belutzsambagirl, cancel it09:38
sambagirli just wanted to look at the planaterium09:38
tamalefedora and gentoo were both havin problems too09:38
ccooketamale: so many?09:38
sambagirli saw it in synaptic09:38
Belutzsambagirl, try find kstars , and install it09:38
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tamalemaybe i just have bad media.. but i make copies of windows discs on this media and it always works09:38
sambagirlok09:38
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ccooketamale: media problems are almost always with the *disks*09:39
sambagirlbrb09:39
Belutzsambagirl, do not install the kubuntu-desktop yet09:39
EazyVGtamale: it's cause of licensing issues09:39
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sambagirlok brb09:39
ulaastamale, which hardware?09:39
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tamaleit's going onto a super micro dual pentium III server09:39
tamalei was told to try gentoo09:39
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tamalebut it's too advanced for me09:39
tamaleheh09:39
ccooketamale: on a server? *shudder*09:39
jowihi guys. "no soundcards found" after latest upgrade (hoary). alsa starts and reports [ok]  and restarts without errors. module snd_intel8x0 loaded.09:39
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tamaledoes ubuntu have decent server software support?09:40
ccookejowi: what chipset?09:40
tamaleor should i be looking elsewhere09:40
tamaleumm09:40
ccookejowi: Intel ICH6?09:40
tamalehttp://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/6010/SYS-6010L.cfm09:40
sambagirlanyone here ever hear of VistA? it is free medical system from NIH. They release it to public for medical people to use for consolidation of medical records and things.. i think now it might be cia trick to get into patients records.09:40
ccooketamale: what sort of software?09:40
sambagirlnow i thinking about it.09:40
jowiccooke: good question. Gericom laptop...09:40
sambagirlbut i think it runs on ubuntu09:40
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ccookeUbuntu has everything Debian has, which makes it a very solid server platform.09:41
sambagirlbrb09:41
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HappyFoolsambagirl: i'm selling mind-control-ray-stopping tinfoil hats at just $50 a-piece09:41
tamalemainly just interested in runnin apache, an ftp server or two, and perhaps a couple game servers09:41
esacbecause the cia cares about your medical records why ?09:41
jowiccooke: it always worked before so i never bothered checking which chipset was in use.09:41
tamaleccooke:  that's what i heard09:41
graighello, i have a question about the evolution mail program in breezy.   is the Spam filtering option any better than it was in hoary?09:41
Belutzsambagirl, i hope it's not windows vista :D09:41
ccooketamale: what are you going to run on this server?09:41
sambagirlno it's for unix.09:41
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tamalemainly just interested in runnin apache, an ftp server or two, and perhaps a couple game servers09:41
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Belutzsambagirl, i was just joking :)09:41
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esacsambagirl: seriously, why do you think you (or any of us) are important enough to give a crap about our medical records?09:42
gn0meShould I be getting updates every day for almost everything (I'm in Breezy)09:42
sambagirlit is for actually another flavor i think. i forget. it was written in some obscure language like umm oh i forget/09:42
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ccooketamale: right. Ubuntu or Debian will be perfect for that.09:42
sambagirlwell you should be.09:42
tamaleawesome09:42
jowiccooke: SiS something... should be 103909:42
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tamalewell i'll try another burn09:42
tamalei guess09:42
tamale*shrug*09:42
Belutz:D09:42
ccookedid it work in Hoary before?09:42
teh_pwnersup people09:42
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sambagirlif they get it, they can find out about when you had first getting herpies, and they put it on Xtra and Entertainment :D09:43
[LethAL] bob2, So how do I get the log if it's gonna be regenerated when I bot?09:43
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UltrAhi, i'm back from reading slashdot now :D09:43
jowiccooke: yes. up until yesterday when i updated09:43
ccooketeh_pwner: Soylent Green?09:43
matrixhrm i know a lethal :|09:43
[LethAL] Do you?09:43
matrixyeah09:43
matrixhe's a owner09:43
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gn0meEvery week I have to download like 180mb of updates, just wondering if that's normal.09:43
ccookejowi: right. what's in /proc/asound/cards09:43
ccookejowi: ?09:43
[LethAL] I know a matrix too09:43
[LethAL] Not the same one... LOL09:43
tamaleshould i finalize the cd?09:43
HappyFoolgn0me: maybe for breezy09:43
tamaleperhaps i shouldn't?09:43
gn0meHappyFool: Yeah, ok.09:43
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jowiccooke: sis701209:43
mwright1nightwil kubuntu and edubuntu be released at the same time as ubuntu?09:44
esacanybody know how i can put my laptop to sleep ? /etc/acpi/sleep.sh doesn't do it09:44
ccooketamale: usually you should.09:44
matrixthe lethal i know is sometimes on ares09:44
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ZBlachhi09:44
UltrAtamale: do you wanna right more crap on it later?09:44
graigdoes evolution have better spam filter in breezy?09:44
[LethAL] matrix, Not me then09:44
ccookejowi: so alsa detects the card fine?09:44
tamalenot really.. but i finalized the last one and it's not workin09:44
Belutzmwright1night, yes it will be09:44
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ZBlachhi [LethAL] , i'm back again09:44
esacgraig: evolution has whatever spam filter you install. if you are talking about the default, then no i believe it is still bogofilter09:44
[LethAL] What was your problem ZBlach09:44
ZBlachAP associatino09:44
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ZBlach**tion09:44
lllmanulllgraig, evolution's spam filter is fine, but you need to install spamassassin I think09:44
[LethAL] Card type?09:45
ZBlachBroadcom 430109:45
[LethAL] Oh um... I can't remember :(09:45
jowiccooke: seems like it. but alsactl can not load settings and alsamixer fails with error "snd_ctl_open failed for default: permission denied"09:45
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ZBlachmy wireless networking would blink in and out of existance09:45
ccookejowi: very odd!09:45
graigis there anything better than spam assassin?,  it totally misses the exact same emails every day.  theres one that is for perscription medicines, and the body of the email is exactly the same every day, and spamassassin misses it every day.09:45
ubuntuhello all09:45
ccookejowi: I've not seen that one before, I'm afraid.09:46
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PoTsbob2:thx09:46
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jowiccooke: sudo alsamixer seems to work.09:46
ccookejowi: what user are you running alsa as?09:46
shad0w1equestion: how do I set up a DNS server???09:46
naliothgraig: train it09:46
[LethAL] ZBlach, how badly? would it say connected but not rx/tx anything?09:46
ccookejowi: okay! maybe you've been dropped from the audio group09:46
ZBlachexactly that09:46
ccookejowi: make a sec09:46
jowiccooke: seems like permissions have changed since the upgrade...09:46
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[LethAL] ZBlach, I got that on my rt2570 card... Now I'm using wired ethernet P09:46
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mwright1nightis ku/edu/u/buntu still on target for Oct 13?09:46
mwright1nightIs the latest gnome 2.12 the versino shipping/09:47
ccookejowi: ls -l /dev/snd09:47
esaci need help getting my laptop to go to sleep. ive tried pain meds, sleeping pills and /etc/acpi/sleep.sh and none of them seem to work09:47
[LethAL] ZBlach, It's not PCI is it?09:47
naliothmwright1night: yes it is09:47
ZBlachunfortunately, I can't run a 40ft eth. cable09:47
PoTsdoes anyone know which repository i should use to install ncftp?09:47
ccookejowi: (you know about not pasting here, right?)09:47
ZBlachno, its not PCI09:47
ccooke!tell jowi about paste09:47
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[LethAL] PCMCIA or USB?09:47
nalioth!ncftp09:47
ubotunalioth: I haven't a clue09:47
shad0w1equestion: how do I set up a DNS server???09:47
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nalioth!info !ncftp09:47
mwright1nightso evolution 2.4 as well,  sounds cool,  ANyone hooked the evo upto LDAP to see if it works properly resolving names as you type the first 3 letters/09:47
ZBlachPCMCIA09:47
nalioth!info ncftp09:48
ubotuncftp: (A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2:3.1.8-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 460 kB, Installed size: 1036 kB09:48
UltrA!info09:48
[LethAL] ZBlach, What I did with mine was unplug it, plug it back in and sudo ifup rausb009:48
ubuntuwhen upgrade to Breeze from Hoary Xorg don't work!!!! anyone has the same problem?09:48
Surakseb128, there's something really wrong with latest librsvg - it's a revival of http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279909:48
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UltrA!info gmailfs09:48
graighow do i train spam assassin?  just mark the email as junk in evolution??09:48
ubotugmailfs: (Use your GMail account as a filesystem), section universe/utils, is extra. Version: 0.3-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 128 kB09:48
jowiccooke: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/274309:48
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cowbudis it possible to install some extra library to get ffmpeg in multiverse to have access to the mp3 codec..09:48
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_jasondoes anyone have sound wokring in xchat?09:49
benkong2_jason; I do09:49
Answerwokring: competitive stirfry09:49
UltrA_jason:why do you need sound in a chat client though?09:49
ubuntuanyone have problem when upgrading to Breeze?09:49
[LethAL] _jason, you have to give it sounds to paly ;)09:49
[LethAL] play*09:49
_jasonUltrA:  I want it to beep if someone says my name, but I set the beep sound and when I preview it it doesn't play09:50
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ccookejowi: grep audio /etc/group09:50
[LethAL] _jason, it uses your PC's internal beeper speaker09:50
mwright1nightWhat is likely to be lacking if I migrate from FC4 to unbuntu?09:50
[LethAL] Does your PC beep when you turn it on?09:50
_jason[LethAL] :  oh that may be why09:50
benkong2_jason; select beep on extea words and then select the sound in preferences09:50
mwright1nightSO far on the surface ubuntu seems pretty good09:50
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[LethAL] mwright1night, Well, you'll have better support :P09:50
NsOmNiAcccooke thanks again for helping me this morning09:50
ccookejowi: do you see yourself there?09:50
rawiramdhanwhat do I need to type if i wnat to connect to a ftp server trough mozilla firefox browser?09:51
ccookeNsOmNiAc: no problem09:51
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jowiccooke: nope, wrong user listed09:51
[LethAL] rawiramdhan, ftp.<address>09:51
ccookejowi: there you go.09:51
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[LethAL] ftp://<address>*09:51
ccookejowi: sudo gedit /etc/fstab and add yourself :-)09:51
mwright1nightWill the next version be May?09:51
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_jasonbenkong2, [LethAL]  ; no wait still makes no sense.  It should play the sound when I preview it.  yet I hear nothing D:09:51
rawiramdhanand where my username and password09:51
jowiccooke: cheers for the help. so easy when you get some pointers ;)09:51
kramer__rawiramdhan: fireftp09:51
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mwright1nightUbuntu probably has a tighter release schedule than FC409:51
[LethAL] _jason, You get sound elsewhere?09:51
_jason[LethAL] :  yes in gnome and mplayer totem etc09:51
Belutzrawiramdhan, ftp://user:password@address09:52
benkong2_jason; do you hear sounds when you boot?09:52
[LethAL] Odd09:52
rawiramdhanthanx:D traying it right now09:52
ccookejowi: no problem09:52
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benkong2my sounds are in /usr/share/sounds/ those are what I use09:52
GDornrawiramdhan:  you probably can leave off the password and have it ask you for one09:52
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benkong2you may need to move them to ~/.xchat2/sounds/09:52
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_jasonbenkong2:  ok I will try that, but I'd still expect to ehar something when i preview... I sthere someway to make sure it is using ESD?09:53
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benkong2_jason; no it uses your configured sound09:53
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rawiramdhanits ftp://username:password@adress09:54
rawiramdhanthanx evereyrone:D09:54
benkong2_jason; one other thing I did in the preferences there is a default directory set to your home .xchat I did change that to /usr/share/sounds09:54
concept10Anyone notice performance decrease after recent breezy updates?  sluggishness?09:54
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lsuactiafnerconcept10 : prolly like 200 programs running in the background you dont need @ all09:55
_jasonbenkong2:  you have "automatic" set right, not "external program"?09:55
davedcould someone tell me how to install ubuntu from debootstrap? i'm trying to do it inside a child xen domain09:55
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lsuactiafnerliek init09:55
benkong2_jason; yes automatic09:55
olcanhelp, I'm trying to login as root to install nvidia driver but the psswd doesn't check09:55
ScatterBrainWhen did Oo2 (1.9.7) get put into Universe?09:55
MadpilotPPColcan, use sudo, and your own pw09:55
_jasonbenkong2:  let me try what you suggested and restart xchat then09:55
scribbleswhats the command to list processes09:56
benkong2_jason; I use /usr/share/sounds/gnibbles/life.wav09:56
olcanlet me see09:56
MadpilotPPC!tell olcan about sudo09:56
concept10lsuactiafner, nope, just rebooted after upgrade.. 2 major apps open, thunderbird and xchat09:56
svrefJust trying Ubuntu for the first time for a friend's computer ... I gotta say this was the right choice for a total computer newbie.  He may actually understand how things work!09:56
lsuactiafnerolcan : there are packages for nvidia, tho i prefer the nvidia driver from nvidia.com and no apt-get09:56
benkong2scribbles; ps09:56
WiFiTuxwhat other webmail software is popular like openwebmail?09:56
lsuactiafnerconcept10 : ps auxww ; uptime ; free -m09:56
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scribblesthx09:57
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olcanwhen I type sudo a bunch of commands appear09:57
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alex_hey. does anyone know how to mount another computers hard drive in ubuntu09:57
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alex_over network09:57
scribblesalex_: you'll have to use samba for that I think09:57
lsuactiafnersudo sh nvidia-bleh09:57
scribbleswww.ubuntuguide.org has the instructions09:57
fizzlehey for some reason when i add stuff to my ~/.Xdefaults file the settings arent being applied09:57
_jasonbenkong2:  still not working... oh well.  thanks for the info all the same09:57
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lsuactiafnertell olcan about nvidia09:57
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naliothscribbles: please dont advise the guide09:57
lsuactiafner!tell olcan about nvidia09:57
MadpilotPPColcan, see the msg ubotu sent you for information on sudo use09:58
concept10lsuactiafner,  14:57:38 up 39 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.73, 0.84...it has to be something09:58
ZBlachhrm. i've configured my wireless card using iwconfig. How can I save the settings permanently?09:58
benkong2hmmm, did you try moving  a sound from /usr/share/sounds to your home dir?09:58
concept10lsuactiafner, Mem:           440        246        193          0          7         8909:58
lsuactiafnerconcept10 : dont paste09:58
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lsuactiafnerconcept10 : run top09:58
benkong2_jason; then chown user:user user is yourusername09:58
lsuactiafnerand watch whats leeching your cpu09:58
ghbThe installation hangs when booting the kernel. =(09:58
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GDornmmm.  free beer.09:59
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cmathesonZBlach: you can use /etc/network/interfaces09:59
cmathesonZBlach: try man 5 interfaces09:59
benkong2_jason; sorry I couldn't help09:59
mwabaI have one question: After i press Alt+ctrl+F1 i change to the command thingy i then "cd" to my mp3 folder however, how do i start playing a mp3 file?09:59
olcanthis is what I get sh: nvidia-bleh: No such file or directory09:59
scribblesnalioth: sorry, is it not complete?09:59
_jasonbenkong2:  was "then chown user:user user is yourusername" for me?09:59
concept10lsuactiafner, it has to be something regarding recent xorg update09:59
benkong2_jason; yes09:59
GDorn!beer09:59
ubotuGDorn: I haven't a clue09:59
MadpilotPPC!tell mwaba about mp309:59
naliothubotu: tell scribbles about ubuntuguide09:59
_jasonbenkong2:  chown the sound files?09:59
scribbles!tell scribbles about ubuntuguide10:00
WiFiTuxanyone?10:00
benkong2_jason; just a test sound file that you move to your home dir.10:00
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ZBlachso, there's no "Save All Settings Like This" command?10:00
MadpilotPPColcan, "nvidia-blah" is unlikely to be the actual filename...10:00
_jasonbenkong2:  k10:00
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scribblesahh10:00
naliothscribbles: if you'll look to your msg windows, you'll see it twice now10:00
benkong2_jason; when in preferences do you see default sound directory?10:00
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mwabaI can already play mp3s when i'm in gnome, i just wanted to know how to do that when running a terminal session.10:00
scribbles!faq10:00
ubotuwell, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/10:00
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lsuactiafnermwaba : mplayer *10:01
benkong2_jason; sould say Sound files directory10:01
vengefulplay mp3s in a terminal session?10:01
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lsuactiafnermwaba : i use mp3blaster in the console10:01
douglasI want to build a module/driver for my wireless card, and when I run the make script it says: Makefile:8: /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build/.config: No such file or directory?10:01
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_johnwhat are some good .iso burning applications for mac os x?  my friend wants to use some live cds10:01
naliothmwaba: mpg32110:01
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GDorn*sigh*  vnc is not a terminal.  I'm a little worried about it being called that.10:01
naliothjohns^: let him use Disk Utility10:01
WiFiTuxwebmail software?10:01
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butcherbirdmwaba: either of those will work you can also play playlists10:01
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vengefuldunno..isnt there a mac os channel to ask in?10:01
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mwabaErm... so what should i type? "mpg321" and then the name of the file?10:01
cevizoglu_john, OS X cannot properly burn an ubuntu linux iso10:01
ZBlachhow to install a .tar.bz2 file?10:02
benkong2_jason; click on the beep event then in the lower part that says Sound file browse to /usr/share/sounds/gnibbles/life.wav10:02
olcanit worked, but now it tells me to close x sever, how do I do that?10:02
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lllmanulllcevizoglu, Why is that ?10:02
_jasonbenkong2:  yep just did that, no success10:02
Shin_Goukinalioth, u there? this is me shin_Gouki!! from linux this time :))))))))))10:02
benkong2_jason; that should make the sound appear next to the beep10:02
lsuactiafnerZBlach : tar -jxf file.tar.bz2 ; cd file-something-version ; ./configure & make & make install10:02
cevizoglulllmanulll, not sure why, but data will be missing from part of the cd10:02
_jasonbenkong2:  it's there, but when I hit play I hear nothing10:02
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ghbCan someone help me? The preinstallation hangs the computer (it's a laptop).10:02
naliothcevizoglu: really?10:02
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vengefulwhich laptop?10:03
naliothubotu: tell ZBlach about cli10:03
lllmanulllcevizoglu, I guess it depends which software you use, I did suceed a lot of times (never failed, actually)10:03
GDornghb:  hangs where?10:03
naliothShin_Gouki: congratulations, friend10:03
lsuactiafner!tell lsuactiafner about cli10:03
olcanMadpilotPPC, it worked, but now it tells me to close x sever, how do I do that?10:03
cevizoglulllmanulll, which software are you using?  Disk Utility?  Toast?10:03
Shin_Goukinalioth i did make it!! i have ixewm , now & mozilla & xchat, its coooool ^^10:03
benkong2_jason; and you closed xchat and restarted?10:03
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GDorn!tell me about vnc10:03
lllmanulllcevizoglu, both10:03
Tortel!tell me about toast10:03
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ghbGDorn: I insert the CD, boots, press ENTER and then it says "Uncompressing the kernel... OK, booting the kernel."10:03
cevizoglulllmanulll, and it worked for you with both?10:03
naliothShin_Gouki: welcome to the next level10:03
ja1hi!10:03
lllmanulllcevizoglu, Yes, IIRC10:03
lsuactiafner!tell lsuactiafner about toast10:03
ghbGDorn: After displaying that, nothing else happen...10:03
mwabaI tried the mpg321 command but it says "command not found"10:03
nalioth!botabuse10:04
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.10:04
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lllmanulllcevizoglu, I'm sure I tried with Disk Utility10:04
_jasonbenkong2:  still nothing10:04
benkong2_jason; can you use nautilus go to the /usr/share/sounds dir and play one of the wav files?10:04
naliothmwaba: install it10:04
lllmanulllcevizoglu, Not sure with Toast10:04
Shin_Goukinalioth, i have to thank u , & also the very nice person : "kemik" he gave me a "low level" ubuntuu guide for SOHO systems with small HW, thx a lot :)10:04
_jasonbenkong2:  yes I hear it in totem10:04
lsuactiafnermwaba : apt-get install mpg32110:04
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Ubuntu!wlan10:04
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Ubuntu10:04
naliothOSX questions need to go to ##apple or #ubuntu-offtopic10:04
Ubuntu!wireless10:04
ubotusomebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards10:04
lsuactiafnernalioth : was checking those howtos, good to read them, even i learn things10:04
benkong2_jason;  that's strange10:04
cevizoglulllmanulll, that's odd, Disk Utility would crash when I tried to burn a warty and a hoary iso... on 10.3.8 and 10.2.810:04
_jasonbenkong2:  lol I jsut set it to use external program and it opened totem just fine10:05
mwabaOkie10:05
lllmanulllcevizoglu, Weird, I never got this problem...10:05
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lsuactiafnerthanks nalioth10:05
cevizoglulllmanulll, Toast 6 titanium would burn the iso but it would have major errors preventing software install from working10:05
Ubuntuwhere can i get wlan help?10:05
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mwabaSo, the command would be something like "mpg321 Will Smith - Switch.mp3"?10:05
benkong2_jason;  on the general tab do you have beep on extra highlighted words or beep on channel message checked?10:05
lllmanulllcevizoglu, I guess you tried to download the same ISO again and check md5 ?10:05
cevizoglulllmanulll, I burned the same iso from linux and it worked fine10:06
_jasonbeep on highlighted10:06
_jasonbenkong2:  beep on highlighted10:06
lllmanulllcevizoglu, Curious... But I believe it is a local problem, since I never heard of this before10:06
benkong2_jason; ok is your _jason in there and check beep on channel message10:06
GDorn!tell me about NIS10:06
Ubuntuwhere can i get wlan help?10:06
Ubuntuwhere can i get wlan help?10:06
naliothUbuntu: watch your enter key, it seems to be stuck10:06
_jasonbenkong2:  ok just did that (_jason)10:07
naliothubotu: tell Ubuntu about repeat10:07
benkong2_jason;10:07
_jasonbenkong2:  nope10:07
GDorn!tell me about ypbind10:07
benkong2_jason; leave it set and maybe when you reboot it'll work. That's all I did10:07
_jasonbenkong2:  I also don't get sound in flash player... it's probably related10:07
naliothubotu: tell GDorn about msg the bot10:07
_jasonbenkong2:  ok, thanks again10:07
benkong2_jason; np wish I could help10:08
naliothyou guys quit sniping at ubotu. there is a list of his commands on the web10:08
cmathesonmwaba: you'd have to escape the spaces or put quotes around the filename after the mpg32110:08
mwabaOkie10:08
mwabaThanks alot.10:08
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nalioth!ubotu10:08
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:08
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ghbWhat happens when you boot with "linux acpi=off"?10:08
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naliothyou guys read the website and quit !guessing10:09
sorush20guys I can't log in as the admin user in samba in KDE, can someone help, it asks for the admin pass I type it in and it doesn't allow access..10:09
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mwabaLOL! i now have a major problem, i know how to start the file but don't know how to stop ot.10:10
GDorncan ubuntu use NIS to handle logins controlled from a central debian server?10:10
naliothmwaba: try 'q' or ctrl-c10:10
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mwabaThanks for that.10:10
mwabaWorked.10:10
mwabaThanks alot guys.10:11
mwabaBye10:11
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Answerhow to change the root password?  what if i'm not in sudoers group?10:12
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Answerhow to change the root password?  what if i'm not in sudoers group?10:12
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ScatterBrainAnswer: in Ubuntu you need to be amemeber of the 'adm' group to run sudo.10:13
naliothAnswer: dont repeat10:13
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butcherbirdAnswer: no root password10:13
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kbrooksbutcherbird: you can set one10:13
AnswerCan't I do some magical sudo su - type stuff?10:13
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butcherbirdAnswer: but you shouldnt activate it10:14
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Answerbutcherbird:  It is activated already and I don't know it.10:14
ScatterBrainAnswer you should be able to "sudo passwd", give your password and then change root's password from there.10:14
Answerhmm how about sudo passwd root10:14
Shin_Goukihi i want to change the refreshrate of my icewm desktop, i did change "xorg.conf" what do i need to do now?10:15
FhaeTonDoes Ubuntu 64 have SLI support or does the 1386 have SLI support?10:15
AnswerHow can I add myself to the adm group?10:15
Answersudo usermod ?10:15
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Tortelprobably10:15
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esacis software suspend 2 built into the default breezy install ?10:15
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tamalegah!   now it's handing at "retrieving vim"10:16
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tamale6% on the installing the base system10:16
tamalehanging at10:16
GDornis there a terminal server for ubuntu that isn't vnc?  I'm not real excited about the idea of having to stay logged in with a locked screen...  plus, it'd be nice to allow someone to be on my computer while remotely connected, like with terminal services under win2k310:17
sorush20how do I enable root access for samba configuration10:17
Shin_Goukihi how do i restart the x?10:17
ScatterBrainAnswer: you shoud be by default10:17
[LethAL] Shin_Gouki, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace10:17
naliothShin_Gouki: ctrl-alt-backspace10:17
Shin_Goukithx  lethal!10:17
AnswerScaterBrain: If I weren't by default, how would I add myself to the adm group?  sudo usermod something?10:17
Shin_Gouki:)10:17
tamalethat's it.. i'm convinced this cd-rom drive just sucks major arse10:17
tamalei'll hook up a different one for my install10:18
ScatterBrainAnswer: don't think you can...10:18
[LethAL] tamale, install from iso files10:18
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tamalei am lethal10:18
[LethAL] tamale, no, the ones on the hdd10:18
esacGDorn: ltsp.sourceforge.net10:18
propagandhicant u add yourself with groupadd or something like that10:18
ScatterBrainAnswer: without hacking anyway.10:18
[LethAL] tamale, as in expert install and then choose the iso-scan and load-iso (or something) modules10:18
tamalewhat, copy the iso's to the disk first?10:18
tamalehmm10:18
FhaeTonwhich do I choose for primary network interface: eth0: nVidia Corp 0057 or eth1: Marvell Tech Grp. Gigabit Ethernet 10/100?10:18
propagandhior you can do it with webmin10:19
GDornoh, I thought ltsp was just a way to boot over PXe.  I'll hafta take a closer look.  Thanks.10:19
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tamalei just wish it'd work10:19
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tamalethis is the third distro i've tried10:19
tamalehah10:19
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[LethAL] tamale, strangely enough, same here10:19
esactamale: are you sure your computer isn't borked ?10:19
[LethAL] However I didn't know how to get the other 2 on the net10:19
tamaleno, but how would i know10:19
FhaeTonadmins must be out10:19
tamalei got pretty far with gentoo10:19
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tamalebut when i got to compiling my own kernel i realized i was in over my head and gave up10:20
tamalethen tried fedory.. couldn't even get to the install screen10:20
jowiccooke: was occupied in skype for awhile. adding the users to the audio group worked like a charm. no idea why they had dissappeared from there. thanks again.10:20
tamalefedora10:20
esacwhy were you compiling your own kernel? the genkernel should have been just fine10:20
tamalethat's just it10:20
tamalethe emerge kept bombin out10:20
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esacubuntu really is the best choice tho10:20
Shin_Goukihi is there a apt-get command for installing firefox??10:20
tamalesaid it was supposed to create a symbolic link10:20
tamaleand it wasn't10:21
mahanguShin_Gouki, apt-get install firefox10:21
naliothShin_Gouki: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox10:21
tamaleso 'genkernel all' just failed immediately10:21
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mahangufirefox is the debian package name10:21
mahanguoh wait10:21
mahangunot sure10:21
mahangudo an apt-cache search firefox first10:21
tamaleugh i'll have to look into it later i guess10:21
tamalethx everyone10:21
tamalepeace10:21
mahangunalioth, gotit10:21
mahangu:)10:21
olcanhow can I check if I installed the nvidia driver correctlly, becuse I did the log out, control alt backspace, and there was no splash?10:21
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gearryhow can I get nautilus to provide me with the standard desktop icons: home, trash, etc.?10:22
sorush20how do I share a printer from my ubuntu machine to the windows machine.. I don't think I need samba, am I right or wrong?10:23
gearrythey seem to be removed by default in ubuntu10:23
lllmanulllgearry, You mean on the desktop ?10:23
fantasaihow do I put the computer on standby?10:24
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cmathesonsorush20:you will need to share it w/ samba unless you install cups on your windoze box10:24
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lllmanulllfantasai, Not sure your hardware can support this, but try Log out --> Suspend10:24
ghbIf I install Ubuntu by booting it with parameter "linux acpi=off noacpi", does that mean that I will have no power manager on my laptop? 0.o10:24
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fantasailllmanulll: I have the option to "hibernate"10:24
fantasailllmanulll: but that's not what I want10:24
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lsuactiafnerolcan : you cant install the driver without exiting X first.10:25
gearrylllmanulll: yes, on the desktop10:25
fantasailllmanulll: I want to suspend with the RAM still going, not suspend to disk10:25
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lllmanulllfantasai, What is the difference ?10:25
gearrybut I just found the FAQ on that, so I may be all set10:25
lsuactiafnerolcan : and you need to change /etc/X11/xorg.conf , look for nv change to nvidia10:25
fantasailllmanulll: suspend to disk copies the RAM to the hard disk and shuts down completely10:25
scribblesOct 03 16:25:09.131 [warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID (1000). You must fix this to proceed.10:25
scribbleshow do I fix that?10:25
[LethAL] scribbles, did you install the package?10:25
lllmanulllfantasai, I see, sorry I don't know how to do that :)10:26
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scribblesyea I installed from apt-get10:26
[LethAL] scribbles, it should run itself10:26
scribblesa few days ago, and I just typed tor in terminal10:26
fantasailllmanulll: suspend will just shut down all computer processes and tell the computer to feed just enough power to keep the RAM going10:26
[LethAL] scribbles, it's a daemon, I have it running here10:26
fantasailllmanulll: basically, the computer goes to sleep10:26
lllmanulllgearry, I don't know whether there is an easy option, but you can change this from gconf10:26
scribblesstrange.10:26
fantasailllmanulll: I just installed Ubuntu yesterday, I can't figure out where the power management is10:26
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fantasailllmanulll: before that, I ran gentoo, where I could just type 'apm -s' and the computer would go to sleep10:27
scribblesis there permissions i need to set on the dir?10:27
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lllmanulllgearry, System tools --> GConf editor10:27
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[LethAL] scribbles, It has its own user... just add 127.0.0.1 9050 as a SOCKS proxy in any app you want torifying, but don't bother with it on this irc server10:27
lllmanulllgearry, Then apps/nautilus/desktop10:27
lllmanulllgearry, Then tick the boxes you need10:27
lllmanulllgearry, got it ?10:27
scribbleswell I need privoxy don't I?10:28
lllmanulllfantasai, have you tried installing apm on Ubuntu ?10:28
[LethAL] scribbles, It's a http proxy, you don't need it but it's highly recommended10:28
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[LethAL] It blocks ads for one10:28
scribblesyea I use it in windows10:28
scribblesI'm new to linux10:28
sorush20should iran be able to produce reactor grade uranium, using ubuntu software10:28
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[LethAL] sorush20, I doubt it10:29
ghbDoes anyone know how well Ubuntu works with laptops?10:29
scribblesghb: I installed it yesterday on my friends laptop just fine10:29
lllmanulllghb, Quite well :) Depends which ones10:29
scribblessound didn't auto recognize though10:29
lllmanulllghb, If the laptop is actually supported, it just rocks10:29
propagandhighb: it works wonderfully with my current HP laptop, and worked perfectly with my Dell Inspiron 5150 when i had it10:29
_jasonghb:  ubuntu hoary is running fine right now on my inspiron 820010:29
benkong2scribbles; I am running it on an HP zv5000 with no problems10:29
olcanlsuactiafner, how do I change that10:29
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butcherbirdghb: ubuntu would be my distro of choice for a laptop10:29
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fantasailllmanulll, it's installed10:29
ghbWell, I'm facing some problems with my laptop...10:30
fantasailllmanulll, but it's not built into the kernel10:30
fantasailllmanulll, the kernel uses ACPI, I guess10:30
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lllmanulllfantasai, Ah, I see, well then you need to recompile it :)10:30
fantasaibut there has *got* to be a UI for this somewhere, it's just that basic10:30
org__what package do i need so my gnome tabs hilights or lets say flashes?10:30
fantasaiuh, no10:30
scribbleslethal10:30
scribbleswhat does that mean though10:30
fantasaiyou use either ACPI or APM10:30
fantasaibut not both10:30
[LethAL] Ya10:30
scribblesshould I reinstall it?10:30
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benkong2scribbles; try www.linuxonlaptops.com10:30
lllmanulllfanopanic, Or try to use acpi -- I'm not really familiar with standby modes10:30
[LethAL] No no, it should be allready running now10:30
scribbleshow do i check10:30
sorush20how can I make an official ubuntu wiki10:31
[LethAL] Um... I forgot :(10:31
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lllmanulllsorush20, You mean create a new page on the wiki ?10:31
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simonphi. how can i downgrade a packaged kernel? Or is it possible to keep 2 versions at the same time?10:31
propagandhips -aux | grep tor?10:31
Shin_Goukicool! my ubuntu is only 580 MB WITH GUI :D10:31
[LethAL] That's the one, thanks propagandhi10:31
[LethAL] Shin_Gouki, well done!10:31
propagandhinot a worry, i was questioning myself there10:31
[LethAL] Hehe10:32
org__shall i ask it again?10:32
Bnonnyquery: lt_modem.ko and lt_serial.ko in linux-restricted-modules10:32
sorush20lllmanulll: yes..10:32
Bnonnywhy are they not in Breezy, but they are in Hoary?10:32
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Shin_Goukiwas damn hard work, also mozilla+firefox did take about 120 MB of this10:32
ghbIs it okay to disable ACPI when running Ubuntu on a laptop?10:32
scribbles115       7221  0.0  2.0   8508  6648 ?        S    01:15   0:23 /usr/sbin/tor10:32
scribbles   ????10:32
scribblesis that it?10:32
[LethAL] I'd say so10:32
lllmanulllsorush20, Well I guess you just need to subscribe with a username/password, and you can create the page you want10:32
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org__what package do i need so my gnome tabs hilights or lets say flashes?10:32
Devin_hi10:32
lllmanulllsorush20, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/10:32
scribblesso tor sets itself to run on boot?10:32
[LethAL] Yeah10:33
Devin_any1 knows if mono debugger works with the default breezy kernel?10:33
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scribblesnow I need to configure privoxy10:33
kemikorg__:  i think that'll be implemented in breezy10:33
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[LethAL] scribbles, you remember how to?10:33
kemikorg__:  so just hold til the 13th10:33
scribblesno10:33
propagandhikemik: you're right, it is implemented10:33
scribblesI remember there's a socks4a forwarding line that gets added10:33
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org__kemcco_home, 13th of this month?10:33
org__kemik*10:33
kemikorg__:  yes10:33
[LethAL] scribbles, yup10:33
org__and why i should wait10:34
org__it was working before10:34
kemikorg__:  because it's not really stable yet10:34
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org__kemik did you understand what i mean exactly10:34
[LethAL] scribbles, add "forward-socks4a / localhost:9050 ." to the top of /etc/privoxy/config10:34
[LethAL] :D10:34
[LethAL] With the dot, that's important10:35
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kemikorg__:  say if your nick is highlighted the gnome-taskbar for xchat will flash aswell?10:35
scribblesdone10:35
kemikorg__:  or an action occurs in a gaim window etc ?10:35
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scribblesso now I just need to configure firefox and gaim and what not10:35
[LethAL] scribbles, yeah, there's info on the site for both them10:36
[LethAL] http://tor.eff.org10:36
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ghbIf I can't install ACPI on my laptop with Ubuntu, does that mean that my battery will be consumed in an instance?10:37
olcanlsuactiafner, it still appears nv10:37
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propagandhibreezy is very close to stable now, I currently have no issues, although i know there are people who may10:38
kemikpropagandhi:  yeah.. and i think it's better to recommend them to wait10:39
[LethAL] propagandhi, I don't have any either :D10:39
scribblesI installed breezy two days ago, first linux install I didn't erase within 2 hours10:39
MikeStylehey guys, i updated my sources.list file to point to breezy instead of hoary and then did killall kde then when i tried to apt-get update it didnt work, so now im stuck without a display manager, so i have to run off a live cd. can anyone help? i think its my sources.list file.10:39
kemikonly 10days10:39
propagandhiabsolutely, i'm not recommending anyone to upgrade10:39
kemik...10:39
MikeStylei heard breezy was incredible10:39
kemikwhen you speak of the devil...10:39
kemik;)10:39
propagandhibut i've been on breezy for months now10:39
propagandhiand it rocks10:39
kemikpropagandhi:  living on the edge ;)10:39
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propagandhiseriosuly, I'm normally very conservative when getting into any unstable branch10:40
scribbleslethal: have you setup SwitchProxy for firefox?10:40
kemikMikeStyle:  why did you killall kde?10:40
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Lars_Gshort one.10:40
propagandhibut i havent had any major concerns at all with breezy10:40
kemikMikeStyle:  anyway, what's the error wehn trying to apt-get update? paste on pastebin10:40
ghb*yaaay* My first installation of Ubuntu just finished. ^^10:40
[LethAL] yay10:41
Lars_Gif I "sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'shell'" it's more logical to use /root/.cpan than /home/<me>/.cpan isn't it?10:41
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kemikpropagandhi:  i tried somewhere in the middle of summer.. left me with a nonworking X10:41
org__It doesn't flash!10:41
Lars_GSeveas: Hi there, how's life?10:41
ghbNow I just need to download 422 updates... =/10:41
MikeStylekemik, i read it on some instructions to killall kde10:41
butcherbirdMikeStyle: if you had any repos added other than univers and multiverse you might need to comment them out10:41
kbrooksMikeStyle: do you remember the link?10:41
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MikeStyleuhm let me check10:42
propagandhikemik: thats tough, but i doubt you'd see that now10:42
MikeStylei googled how to install from hoary to breezy10:42
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kbrooksMikeStyle: which result did you choose?10:42
=== Lars_G can't wait for Breezy to hit final.
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mattyJis there anyway to open multiple totem players?10:42
Buuyo^Hey. Firefox seems to be bugged out :|10:42
MikeStyleuhm10:42
MikeStyleit was a forum kbrooks :(10:42
MikeStyleand the admin posted how to do it so i figured why not10:43
Buuyo^I just apt-get upgraded it, and now it has an XUL error when I try to download a file.10:43
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kbrooksMikeStyle: ubuntu forums?10:43
[LethAL] Uh-oh... X update!10:43
MikeStylekbrooks, im not sure, i think so10:43
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joaospintoppl i have a great problem!10:43
org__where can i find the configuration file of gnome?10:43
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Shin_Goukihi i need a GUI HTML Browser which uses LOW HW resources for Icewm , ideas?10:44
joaospintowhen the synatic package manager searchs for ubuntu updates10:44
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joaospintoit searches in the wrong website10:44
[LethAL] Shin_Gouki, Galeon?10:44
naliothShin_Gouki: links210:44
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[LethAL] nalioth, he said GUI10:44
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Seveasorg__, .gnome .gconfd .gnome2 .gnome2-private (in your homedir)10:44
joaospintoi think that website has a space in the midle and he doesnt use the space10:44
joaospinto:S10:44
SeveasShin_Gouki, dillo10:44
naliothlevis: links2 -g will open a graphical interface10:44
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joaospintoanyone can help me?????10:44
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nalioth[LethAL] : you should look into the capabilities of links210:45
Seveasjoaospinto, check your sources.list10:45
org__I can't find .gnome10:45
joaospintohow do i do that?10:45
propagandhijoaospinto: paste your sources.list file in the pastebin10:45
Seveas!tell joaospinto about sources10:45
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Shin_Goukiseveeas do u plz have an apt command?10:45
[LethAL] nalioth, maybe I was being confused with lynx, but I thought they were both text-mode10:45
kemik'lu Shin_Gouki10:45
nalioth[LethAL] : links2 has a graphical mode10:45
joaospintohow do i open the sources.list10:45
kemikany luck with getting yuor system running?10:45
joaospintowhere is it?10:45
org__http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/docs/javadoc/org/gnu/gnome/App.html#flash(String) see here Seveas do you know what does that means exactly pls??10:45
SeveasShin_Gouki, apt-get install dillo10:45
[LethAL] nalioth, you just said LD10:45
joaospinto/etc/sources.list ?10:45
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propagandhi '/etc/apt/sources.list'10:46
org__Seveas, and my gnome doesn't do the flash thingy, when someone sent me msg in the gaim, it doesn't even flash to me.10:46
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kemikorg__:  do you know how to code Java ?10:46
nalioth[LethAL] : is it bigger than a breadbox?10:46
joaospintotkz!!10:46
Seveasorg__, that's new in 2.1210:46
org__kemik no10:46
Seveasso you need breezy for that10:46
org__Seveas, yes it's new10:46
kemikorg__:  its a api for some class someone published10:46
FarrisGCan anyone help me get wireless working with 5.10?10:46
[LethAL] Scuse me nalioth?10:46
kemikorg__:  are you running Breezy ?10:46
org__whats the new Seveas ??10:46
Seveasorg__, that page is for java programmers, so useless for you10:47
org__kemik, what is breezy for gods sake10:47
nalioth[LethAL] : i have no idea what you're talking about10:47
Seveasorg__, that's new in 2.12 <-- the flashing10:47
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org__Seveas, do you know what i mean..10:47
kbrooksMikeStyle: this: http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=65368 ?10:47
org__Seveas, i mean i want if someone sent me msg on gaim it flashes like old days on fc410:47
Seveasorg__, do you even know it yourself?10:47
kemikorg__:   you need Breezy (or the new Gnome release) for the flashing10:47
pr0tocolwhat's going on everyone?10:47
benplautnalioth: bot10:47
org__kemik, in fc4 it's the new gnome there?10:47
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org__Seveas, I need to know that someone msgs me:(10:47
joaospintodeb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/10:47
joaospintodeb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/10:47
org__thats all10:47
benplautnalioth: are you a bot?10:47
kemikorg__:  no, that would be anohter windowmanager10:47
joaospintoi think it opens without the10:47
naliothbenplaut: no i'm just lost10:48
Seveasorg__, then upgrade to breezy10:48
Seveassee the topiv10:48
joaospintowithout the space10:48
Seveastopic10:48
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org__Seveas, how can i do that10:48
Seveassee the topic <----------10:48
org__kemik, i'm in gnome now, how do you want me to be in another windowmanager10:48
joaospintoppl anyone knows why??10:48
kemikjeez10:48
org__Seveas, i'm too noob for that, i want some one to feed-help me10:48
org__spoon-feed10:48
org__haha10:48
Seveasorg__, that page does that10:48
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pr0tocoljoaospinto, what's the problem you're having?10:48
thechitowncubswho here runs at 1600x1200?10:48
Seveasjoaospinto, because that's how repositories work10:48
org__Seveas, and do you recommend me to upgrade to breezy10:48
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org__breezy = a window manager that is??10:49
kbrooksno10:49
joaospintoit always gives me an error when it searches in the sources website10:49
kemiki'd recommend yuo to wait til it's stable10:49
org__kemik do u recommend me that?10:49
kemikie: on the 13th10:49
pr0tocolthechitowncubs, I run a higher res... :P10:49
joaospintoseveas how can i correct the prob?10:49
kbrooksbreezy = next ver of ubuntu10:49
butcherbirdorg__: breezy = ubuntu 5.1010:49
thechitowncubspr0tocol, what ??10:49
org__kemik, ok but why in fc4 the tabs flashes and here no?10:49
org__butcherbird, AHA!10:49
kemikorg__:  and i'd recommend you to read *alot* about linux and ubuntu in particular10:49
Seveasjoaospinto, go to winehq and get the correct sources.list lines...10:49
org__butcherbird, man u less words but you helpful10:49
joaospintois there any alternative or something to that website?10:49
org__butcherbird, so what i'm using now??10:49
pr0tocoljoaospinto, then it could be that the source doesn't exist anymore10:49
kemikorg__:  probably hoary (5.04)10:49
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org__kemik what i didnt understand this10:50
pr0tocolthechitowncubs, I'm using a higher resolution10:50
org__kemik how did u know10:50
org__u magical10:50
butcherbirdsorry server prob10:50
joaospintowinehq? this isnt related with winehq :P its related with synaptic packages10:50
thechitowncubspr0tocol, ya what is it10:50
propagandhiI am glad Opera finally went free. Is anyone else using it10:50
kemikare you trolling ?10:50
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bipolarjoaospinto, even the wine in those repos is out of date10:50
GhostFreemanSomeone have ubotu tell me about /etc/fstab10:50
joaospintoprotocol i wrote it just a few time ago10:50
org__kemik It's not about the ubuntu believe me, it's only the WM10:50
joaospintomaybe10:50
[LethAL] propagandhi, I probably would but I'm on Gnome10:50
bipolarjoaospinto, might as well build your own from source10:50
joaospintowhat is ur source?10:50
org__not trolling im joking for sense of homer10:50
thechitowncubspropagandhi, no it doesn't look good in gnome for me10:50
pr0tocolthechitowncubs, 1792x134410:50
propagandhioh, damn10:50
shawnz<3 Seveas for gksu-1.3.0-1ubuntu10seveas110:50
shawnz=p10:50
thechitowncubswhat size of a monitor?10:50
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sambagirlanyone familiar if openwebmail will run under ubuntu?10:51
org__its not about breezy10:51
org__its about the wm10:51
bipolarjoaospinto, I installed the wine from the wine.sf.net repo and it's the same version as the ubuntu universe one.10:51
org__or the gaim10:51
pr0tocolthechitowncubs, 19 inches10:51
org__im not sure10:51
thechitowncubsSeveas, what is different in your version of gksu10:51
bipolarjoaospinto, I'm building the latest from source now.10:51
kemikorg__:  and gnome is a newer version in breezy10:51
joaospintocan u copy your sources.list file?10:51
Seveasshawnz, how the *@@! did you know that?10:51
org__i cant install gnome in hoery?10:51
thechitowncubspr0tocol, holy shit, i have a 19 inch and i tried to run at 1600 but it was really hard on my eyes10:51
org__the newer gnome10:51
scribblesheh, you can set APT to use Tor10:51
shawnzSeveas, just saw it in my apt-get, so i looked at changelog.Debian.gz10:51
propagandhii'm gonna make a bold statement, but i like opera's mail client better than thunderbird10:51
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[LethAL] thechitowncubs, I have a 19" and I use 1280x960 :)10:51
NsOmNiAcany way to quickly troubleshoot why you can no longer play mp3's when I was able to before ? I don't remember making any changes but other sounds work fine10:51
org__kemik how can i know which version of gnome i have?10:51
Seveasthechitowncubs, re-enabled the semi-transparency thing -- i like it :)10:51
pr0tocolthechitowncubs, heh10:51
joaospintobipolar can u copy me ur sources.list ?10:52
shawnzindeed10:52
GNULinuxer'ubotu Breezy10:52
thechitowncubsmaybe its because it was only able to perform at 60hz10:52
shawnzthat transparency thing ruled10:52
pr0tocolthechitowncubs, mine is working on 60 Hertz as well10:52
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kemikorg__:  google is your friend... or someone else in this channel perhaps10:52
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Seveasorg__, system -> about gnome10:52
shawnzanyway10:52
org__Seveas, thanks10:52
joaospintoups10:52
joaospintolol10:52
bipolardeb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/10:52
pr0tocollol @ kemik10:52
joaospintothose lines are for wine10:52
bipolarpos10:52
joaospintoyeh10:52
org__2.10.010:53
joaospintoshall i uncomment the other lines?10:53
GhostFreemanI need help mounting an AF partition10:53
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Shin_Goukikemik! ur from france? lu?= salut? ur LOW level install guide was COOOL!! :)10:55
kemikShin_Gouki:  nah im not french ;)10:56
Shin_Goukikemik ur guide did rock! i create a 580 MB system with 120 MB size taken from mozilla& mozilla firefox!!10:56
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kbrookskemik: link to the guide10:57
kemikShin_Gouki:  nice to hear :) i hope it's not too much load time either10:57
naliothkemik: are you withholding from the wiki?10:57
kemikno no10:57
kemiki didnt write it10:57
kemiksettle down10:57
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kemikhttp://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html10:58
Shin_Goukikemik, xchat is fast , terminals also fast...now i need a fast browser.. ...somemone said: dillo but its... NOt what i need10:58
kbrookskemik: that aside, please link10:58
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kemikShin_Gouki:  lynx or links would be fast ;)10:58
kemikbut only textbased :(10:58
naliothShin_Gouki: links210:58
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cagliostrohi all, where can I find the cursor theme of gnome used by default on ubuntu?10:58
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Shin_Goukilinks2?10:58
naliothShin_Gouki: links2 offers graphics10:58
Shin_Goukii try apt!10:58
naliothubotu: tell Shin_Gouki about sources10:59
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GhostFreemanI am trying to write a substantially large tarball to an AF partition, and it keeps telling me "Permission Denied"10:59
GhostFreemanhow do I resolve this?10:59
Shin_Goukiis links2 better then dillo?10:59
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rawiramdhanHow can I change and save my xterm color?11:00
rawiramdhanI'm using ion3, I dont know if this changes the config file11:01
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cagliostroanyone can help about ubuntu cursor theme?11:02
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naliothShin_Gouki: use them both11:03
rawiramdhanHow can I change and save my xterm color?11:03
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rawiramdhanI'm using ion3, I dont know if this changes the config file11:03
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Shin_Goukinalioth, no i need more :/ just view a few wikipedia pages...11:03
michael__How do I install Java on Ubuntu11:03
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naliothShin_Gouki: can you compile?11:03
Shin_Goukinalioth, firefox is nice...but the rendering eninge is too slow...11:03
naliothubuntulog: tell michael__ about javadeb11:03
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naliothubotu: tell michael__ about javadeb11:04
Shin_Goukinalioth,  yes i can compile11:04
naliothShin_Gouki: then visit www.twibrightlabs.com and get the source for links2. when you configure it, enable graphics and javascript11:04
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DJLarZI have a problem: I can't access the internet from ubuntu.. I run a multi-operating system, and it works fine on WinXP. I use a regular ethernetcord. I have tried to input "eth0" in the network thingie in ubuntu, but it still doesnt work, even after I set up a static ipadress. can someone please help???11:05
DJLarZ+ all the dns servers, dhcp and stuff11:06
rawiramdhanMy xterm freezes a lot, any1 with the same problem?11:06
Shin_Goukinalioth , that is nice :) so links2 is a kind of a "scalable" browser?11:06
rawiramdhanxterm = xmms11:06
naliothShin_Gouki: idk scalable, but it is very light weight11:06
Shin_Goukiexcatly what i need :)11:06
Shin_Goukihow do i uninstall software with apt??11:07
naliothShin_Gouki: right click on the item and select "remove"11:07
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Shin_Goukinalioth , i need the command promt i installed dillo and want now to remove it11:08
mhzhi all11:08
Shin_Goukinalioth ( my first) linux unitsall ^^11:08
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mhzcould someone give me a hand an tell me what is I am doing wrong in a try to install from local netboot???11:08
org__how can i force to kill something? an app is like stuck and i can't close it, in gnome11:08
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QMarioHello everyone!!! :)11:09
mhzorg__: ps ax   and then you kill the #11:09
QMarioHello Seveas!!! :)11:09
mhzcould someone give me a hand an tell me what is I am doing wrong in a try to install from local netboot???11:09
[LethAL] org__, add the force quit button to the panel :P11:09
_jasonorg__:  or run "xkill" in terminal11:09
naliothShin_Gouki: "sudo apt-get remove dillo"11:09
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Shin_Goukinaloith , thx i will remember it!11:10
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mhzso far I can succesfully assign IP BUT I can't receive the necessary packages11:10
propagandhidoes the CTRL+ALT+ESC function work in gnome?11:10
naliothubotu tell Shin_Gouki about apt11:10
org__It was work for me before the Ctrl+alt+ESC11:10
naliothubotu: tell Shin_Gouki about synaptic11:10
org__but now it doesn't work11:10
QMarioNalioth, I still have that Java problem. :'(11:10
org__i don't know why11:10
lsuactiafnerapt-cache search wine doesnt give me an option to install wine? but i added deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/ to the sources and did an update11:10
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org__why CTRL+ALT+ESC doesn't work:(11:10
naliothQMario: i'm still lost11:10
QMarioI just re-installed it, but it still can't find my Java archives.11:10
_jasonorg__:  I don't think that combination does anything by default11:10
rawiramdhani want to change my xterm config how do I do that?>11:11
naliothQMario: archives or the java runtime?11:11
propagandhiit definitely does something in kde by default i was interested to know if it does in gnome11:11
QMarioNalioth, archives.11:11
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rawiramdhani want to change my xterm config how do I do that?>11:11
khermansAnyone have suggestions for a Linux encrypted file system?11:11
naliothQMario: if you want to run something, it needs to be in your $PATH11:11
Shin_Goukinalioth, i installed mozilla and afterwards mozilla firefox if i type : ... remove mozilla , will mozilla firefox still work?11:11
[LethAL] Shin_Gouki, yes11:12
QMarioJava works fine, but when trying to compile programs with TurtleGraphics or BreezySwing, it can't do it.11:12
Shin_Goukithx11:12
Shin_Goukilethal11:12
lsuactiafneri dont think it will..11:12
propagandhiQMario: what error do you get11:12
lsuactiafnerfirefox uses mozilla libs and files..11:12
naliothQMario: set your environment variables in your ~/.bashrc11:12
QMarioException in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: TurtleGraphics/StandardPen11:12
[LethAL] Well I don't have Mozilla installed11:12
DJLarZis cross-over office open source???11:13
lsuactiafner[LethAL]  : maybe not binaries but the libs11:13
Shin_Goukiok trin now the links2 thing11:13
lsuactiafnerlocate -i mozilla11:13
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propagandhiQMario: doesnt that mean its missing an important class, or one that needs to be compiled beforehand11:13
Answerexit11:13
propagandhiDJLarZ: no it isnt11:13
[LethAL] lsuactiafner, It's deps don't seem to include anything with mozilla in ;(11:13
[LethAL] ;)*11:13
propagandhibut you can get it free11:14
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QMarioPropagandhi, I don't know.11:14
lsuactiafnerwell, i'll be very surprised if it works after you remove mozilla11:14
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lsuactiafnerabout that wine problem of mine....11:14
WikiFanaticI LOVE Ubuntu.11:14
WikiFanatic:-)11:14
mhzcould someone give me a hand an tell me what is I am doing wrong in a try to install from local netboot???11:14
mhzso far I can succesfully assign IP BUT I can't receive the necessary packages11:14
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Shin_Goukinalioth, did u misspelled?: www.twibrightlabs.com no respond for mee?11:15
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coobrais there a operator here11:15
QMarioNalioth, so how would I set my environmental variables?11:15
Shin_Goukiask11:15
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naliothShin_Gouki: my bad http://links.twibright.com/11:15
WikiFanaticI mean, I love Ubuntu. It's the only Linux I like11:15
WikiFanaticSeveas is an op right now it seems11:15
naliothcoobra: what did you need?11:15
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coobrathat has anything with tha mirror bizzniz :P11:15
QMarioSeveas, are you here right now?11:16
naliothcoobra: what mirror business?11:16
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naliothcoobra: mirror business?11:16
coobranalioth:  i want to be a mirror :P11:17
naliothcoobra: polish yourself11:17
propagandhicoobra: too bad you were born a human11:17
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QMarioNalioth?11:17
fizzlettis the 586 architexture for pentium4?11:17
coobranalioth:  what do yo say :/11:17
naliothQMario: i'm not up on what you need to put in your ~/.bashrc, but you need to put some paths so your build environments can find the java it seeks11:18
naliothcoobra: i dont understand what you want11:18
naliothfizzle: 68611:18
QMarioNalioth, all I need is the CLASSPATH. I just need a format.11:18
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coobranalioth:  i want to share the ubuntu to ppl11:19
naliothQMario:11:19
kbrooksQMario: /path:/path/foo:/path/foo/bar11:19
QMarioYes...11:19
Shin_Goukithen bittorent11:19
Shin_Goukicoobra11:19
nalioth"export CLASSPATH=/path/you/like"11:19
Shin_Goukibe a tracker?11:19
coobranalioth:  i hawe a good connection (speed on internet)11:19
QMarioKbrooks, what do "foo" and "bar" mean?11:19
Shin_Goukibittorent coobra11:19
naliothcoobra: then get a torrent11:19
naliothcoobra: check here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil11:20
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fizzlenalioth, which arch would i d/l for p4? im trying to install mplayer and theres 586, and 38611:20
coobranalioth:  i hawe a universety connection and want to help this fine dist of linux :)11:20
adrian_hi, from where I can download sun-j2sdk1.5debian package? "sudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5debian" doesn't work [didn't find this package] 11:20
naliothcoobra: 68611:20
kbrooksQMario: exaples11:21
naliothubotu: tell adrian_ about javadeb11:21
fizzlethere is no 68611:21
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[LethAL] adrian_, this isn't debian, remove that part11:21
propagandhiadrian_: u can install the free java sdk or you can download and install the self extracting binary from java.sun.com11:21
naliothpropagandhi: we have ubuntu debs available11:21
lsuactiafnerfizzle : its a much better idea to compile the mplayer cvs11:21
propagandhiyeah, but some people prefer the official, thats the only reason i suggested such11:21
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naliothpropagandhi: these are official (and illegal)11:22
fizzlelsuactiafner, yeah i know but i want to save time heh11:22
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Shin_Goukinalioth, do u have any experience with beagle?11:22
lsuactiafnerfizzle : trust me on this, as someone sorta involved in mplayer, you dont want to run packages, the CVS version is more stable and supports more11:22
FhaeTonok I called stupid ASUS and they said I need Linux chipset drivers but I have no clue how to make a disc loadable for PC when all I have is a Mac Laptop11:22
naliothShin_Gouki: no i do now11:22
taomasterdo u think that with the new release they will have java installed?11:22
pierrebi seek info about openssl and perl11:22
naliothjava is illegal to distribute. so no free distro will have it by default11:23
GDornany suggestions for getting a turtle beach santa cruz working with alsa?11:23
taomasterjava is not in the open-soucre world?11:23
WikiFanaticnalioth: it is?11:23
Shin_Goukihaha11:23
MikeStyleis anyone here running breezy and has a good sources.list file?11:23
Shin_Goukino java chat here get informed on otherplaces11:24
fizzleshould i use aptitude purge remove mplayer-386 to remove mplayer11:24
naliothShin_Gouki: heh you're funny11:24
Shin_Goukiand read a LOT of sun policys :P11:24
ghb"I got my Ubuntu working..." Well, so far it is. ^^11:24
naliothfizzle: that will work11:24
pierrebi try to install SSLeya sur brezzy .....11:24
Shin_Goukinalioth , i m more then u think ;)11:24
fizzleok11:24
fizzleill build from source11:25
naliothpierreb: is there anyone in #ubuntu-fr?11:25
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naliothfizzle: make sure you enable the gui11:25
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fizzlenalioth, i know :)11:25
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fizzleim jut lazy lol11:25
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fizzlehate compiling form source11:25
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Shin_Goukino thats the fun part about linux ^^11:26
naliothfizzle: mplayer is one program that can stand to be personally compiled (make sure you have all your libs you want it to use)11:26
coobranalioth: do you know if you will hawe any swedish mirrors up11:26
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naliothcoobra: join #ubuntu-nun11:26
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lsuactiafnerfizzle : not that much effort and it will be less effort to have a decent compile than having problems with the release and package11:27
mhzanyone ever set up a TFTP boot/install??11:27
HrdwrBobyeah11:27
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lsuactiafnerfizzle : apt-get build-dep mplayer11:27
[A] ndy80one question: when I installed gxine it registered with mozilla too. I don't want it to be integrated with mozilla, how can i fix it? thanks!11:27
QMarioKbrooks, what is the colon for in " /path:/path/foo:/path/foo/bar" ?11:27
lsuactiafnerthats usefull tho.11:27
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HrdwrBobmhz: you just need a DHCP server and (iirc) tcftpd11:27
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lsuactiafneri have a script to download compile and isntall mplayer every night11:28
naliothkbrooks: the colon seperates paths11:28
mhzHrdwrBob: yes, indeed. I successfully get to assign IP (via dhcp server) but it times out in the TFTP......11:28
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HrdwrBobyou have to specify the tftp server in the dhcp server11:29
teh_pwnerok i need help installing "gift-ares-0.2.2.tar.bz2" anybody can help me ?11:29
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HrdwrBobthe tftp server has to be running11:29
HrdwrBoband it has to be running a server which supports the necessary extensions11:29
mumblesanything else ihave to do to be able to log into my ubntu using ssh ?11:29
virgulei am doing dist-upgrade to breezy and I see a lot of locale settings failure like this: http://pastebin.com/381821   whats up?11:30
HrdwrBobsudo apt-get install ssh11:30
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mumblesdone that one HrdwrBob11:30
teh_pwneri need help installing "gift-ares-0.2.2.tar.bz2" :s11:30
HrdwrBobthen that's it11:30
LokeDKIs there a tool to convert error characters in files? I mean..  should be  .. but some weird happened when the file got created.. so all the "special characters" are wrong11:30
butcherbirdmumbles: i would change the default port from 22, but Im paraniod11:30
HrdwrBobvirgule: they are fine, ignore them for now11:30
mhzHrdwrBob: you lost me a bit. I apt-got tftpf-ha, set up dhcpd.conf and that was it.11:31
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HrdwrBobmhz: you have to configure tfpd-ha11:31
virguleok thx.. now this: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:31
SeveasLokeDK, iconv11:31
HrdwrBoband put the boot files in the right place11:31
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jack-i have an odd question..i just played some "uqm" and my mouse pointer disappeared..i'm in a working terminal window11:32
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jack-what command do i need to get x11 to display the mousepointer again?11:32
invalid|lappyhow would I recursively chmod directories to 755, but leave the files inside the way they are11:33
naliothseveas11:33
lsuactiafnerteh_pwner : tar -jxf file.tar.bz2 ; cd file-something-version ; ./configure & make & make install11:33
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mhzHrdwrBob: I have a symlink to /var/lib/tftpboot/ubuntu from /var/www/11:33
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mhzHrdwrBob: but that's all tftp congif I've found :)11:34
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HrdwrBobmhz: you may have to restart xinetd11:34
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mhzand the ubuntu dir is actually a mount point of ubuntu-cd11:35
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mhzHrdwrBob: xinetd??11:35
KaparenI having problems getting my monitor to display 85hz, right now it can display 60 and 70hz. suggestions?11:35
mhzI have no xinetd11:36
teh_pwnerlsuactiafner, ya lost me buddy11:36
HrdwrBobmhz: or inetd11:36
HrdwrBobyou need one of them to run tftpf11:36
shiviI am not able to find the package libdvdcss2 waht repo?11:36
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khermansshivi, add universe and multiverse11:37
mhzHrdwrBob: ah, yes, I have restarted dhcp and tftp11:37
mhzmany times11:37
shiviI did11:37
shiviit won't show up11:37
jack-please..anyone..how can i get my mousepointer back? :<11:37
shivilet me show u in paste bin11:37
khermansshivi, you in hoary?11:37
shivibreezy11:38
khermansshivi, yeah its not there for me in breezy11:38
shivihmm11:38
shiviso what rpo to use11:38
shiviI can't play dvds11:38
shivi:(11:38
khermansshivi, try using hoary repos11:39
virgulePlease take a look and say what you think is the best thing to do:   http://pastebin.com/38205811:39
shiviwhich one...11:39
naliothubotu: tell shivi about dvd11:39
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grndslmubotu: tell grndslm about dvd11:40
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Shin_Goukihi! how do i paste text into my terminal window(icewm) ?11:40
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jack-is there any way to make x11 display my mousepointer again?11:41
jack-something like restart gdm, whatever?11:41
jack-please11:41
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fahrenHi!11:41
grndslmhow 'bout ctrl+alt+backspace11:41
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EggMandoes the ubuntu installer let me partion my drives without reformating them?11:42
vengefulyes11:42
khermansEggMan, yes, but you probably want the latest Colony 5 CD11:42
khermansthe preview release has issues11:42
EggManSo i can resize a drive?11:43
khermansEggMan, yes11:43
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grndslmyou can even resize ntfs partitions?11:43
EggManok im using 5.0411:43
khermansEggMan, oh you should try breezy11:43
EggManHoary11:43
vengefulshin-gouki i always highlight and then use my middle moust button heh11:43
khermansEggMan, i dont think Hoary has the resizer11:43
EggManhmm11:43
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grndslmi don't think it does either11:44
Shin_Goukivengeful11:44
Shin_GoukiTHX!11:44
EggManThanks khermans11:44
fahreni can't set aterm's font in breezy to -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-120-*-iso8859-2; i have installed xfonts-intl-europe package, and that font is found, however it looks like it was ugly scaled, it doesn't fit for use; i had no problems with that font on first ubuntu version (forgot name)11:44
ubuntuhols11:44
khermansEggMan, you have a torrent program?11:44
EggManyea11:44
vengefulmouse even11:44
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khermansEggMan, you running i386?11:44
khermanshttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-5/breezy-install-i386.iso.torrent11:44
EggMana 133 mhz!11:44
fahrenalso i don't have any problems with that font on any other system i know :)11:44
fahrenany ideas?11:44
khermansEggMan, ouch11:45
khermansEggMan, i would try gentoo on that instead11:45
EggMani like it11:45
confreyhi everybody11:45
khermansEggMan, you ned to conserve resources11:45
EggManyea, but it runs11:45
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jack-hrm, still working11:45
[LethAL] EggMan, I agree with khermans, as long as you can wait a few weels to compile it11:45
EggMani dont mind that its slow11:45
[LethAL] weeks*11:45
confreyI need help to use pcmcia on my laptop : I can't see card inserted in11:45
jack-grndslm, what does ctrl-alt-backspace do?11:46
EggManthats why i wont use Gentoo11:46
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fahren:/11:46
EggManto much compile time on this box11:46
mumblesis the backports site down ?11:46
khermans[LethAL] , that is true, but if you have access to a distcc server ...11:46
[LethAL] distcc?11:46
khermansEggMan, other option is to not install X11:46
khermans[LethAL] , distributed C compilation11:46
[LethAL] Ah, cool11:47
[drunk] logicmuep, doesn't appear to be11:47
naliothmumbles: yes11:47
[drunk] logicer, mumbles,^^11:47
khermansEggMan, try the colon cd 511:47
khermansEggMan, are you trying to resize NTFS?11:47
EggManno, ext311:47
khermansif it is straight FAT32, thats no problem11:47
Shin_Goukihi anyone knows a good guide for installing MONO on ubuntu?11:47
khermansoh ... nevermind11:47
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khermansEggMan, can you download parted on the original install/11:48
khermansEggMan, parted will allow you to resize that11:48
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EggManok11:48
casHi, my cpufreq scale applet does show me the speed, but i can't adjust it. Is there a way to do this?11:48
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lllmanulllcas, Are you sure your CPU does support scaling ?11:49
khermanscas, yeah i used to do that in Gentoo, but for some reason i haven't got it working in Ubuntu -- but it does scale automtically and thats fine with me11:49
confreyI need help to use pcmcia on my laptop : I can't see card inserted in11:49
mumbleswhats the best ftp server to use? thats easy to manage?11:50
khermansmumbles, vsftpd11:50
casYes, It even scales automaticly, I just want to adjust it manually because my cpu gets to hot (I know this is a hardware problem and will be fixed)11:50
mumblesthanks thats what someone else just told me11:50
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kbrookshow do i remove N comments from a file with sed?11:50
khermanscas, oh you can use the cli toold cpufreq-selector11:51
caskhermans, Yeah, I also used gentoo, thats why i know it's possible. Isn't it possible to do it with a cli command11:51
castnx :) khermans11:51
ghbHow do I install ACPI, or activate it?11:51
Shin_Goukihi!! anyone knows a good guide for installing MONO on ubuntu?11:51
[LethAL] Hmmm11:51
[LethAL] !mono11:51
ubotuhmm... mono is implementation of .NET framework on linux. It supports winforms partially. For details http://www.go-mono.com11:51
virguleanyone else had an issue with wxpython like this one: http://pastebin.com/38207511:51
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jmghey all11:51
Shin_Goukithx lethal11:51
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jmgmy laptop powers off after waking up from suspend11:51
[LethAL] That was a wild guess :d11:51
Shin_Goukisometimes people JUST looking for THAT11:52
Shin_Gouki;)11:52
jmgany ideaS?11:52
confreyjmg, did you comment 'else' line in powerbtn.sh?11:53
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jmgconfrey: ???11:53
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khermanscas, did you get the manual frequancy seletion working?11:53
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jmgconfrey: where is that? see if you are faster than my find -name :)11:54
khermanscas,  you still have to know th stepping values11:54
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jmggot it11:54
jmgyay11:54
jmgtesting11:54
caskhermans, Yeah, figured it out. Works smooth now on 2000 Mhz11:54
khermanscas, :-)11:55
teh_pwnerapt-get install gift-ares-0.2.2.tar.bz211:55
teh_pwner <---doesn't work11:55
ToToi all, i'using breezy but i have some problem with xmule, xmms, mplayer fonts, someone has any suggestion?11:55
khermansteh_pwner, shoudltn either11:55
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teh_pwneri need to install my prog :s11:55
khermansteh_pwner, is it in the repos?11:55
confreyjmg, you must edit the file /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh; comment the lines 'else' and '/sbin...'11:55
jmgconfrey: still powers off...11:55
teh_pwnerkhermans, its on my desktop :|11:56
jmgdo i need to reboot after editing the file? i am using klaptop...11:56
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Shin_GoukiShin Gouki says: Good night ubuntu Linux Community :)11:56
kbrooksteh_pwner: that's a file11:56
khermansteh_pwner, i dont know what package that is11:56
virgulehaa its driving me nut :(   what is the actual problem then what should I do to fix this? http://pastebin.com/38207911:56
confreyjmg, I don't know..11:56
kbrooksteh_pwner: what are you doing EXACTLY11:56
jmgconfrey, ok i will look into it deeper... thanks for the hint11:56
khermansteh_pwner, but you should just be able to extract the binary if is it compiled or extract/compile if it is source11:56
casteh_pwner, Is that normal gift?11:56
teh_pwneridk11:56
teh_pwnerall i know is gift-ares-0.2.2.tar.bz211:57
confreyconfrey, I don't think so, try /etc/init.d/acpi restart11:57
jmgconfrey: whatever i find i will report as a bug... thanks11:57
kbrooksteh_pwner: what are you doing EXACTLY11:57
teh_pwnerkhermans, trying to install that program11:57
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teh_pwner*kbrooks11:57
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kbrooksteh_pwner: where did you get it from11:57
ToToi all, i'using breezy but i have some problem with xmule, xmms, mplayer fonts, someone has any suggestion?11:57
teh_pwnerkbrooks, i got it from some site i forgot what site though11:58
vengefultell us your problems11:58
teh_pwnerkbrooks, i think it was sourceforge not sure though11:58
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