[12:00] <Seveas> read the dpkg manpage for options
[12:00] <ompaul> HatchLing, well 5.04 should have been mentioned for that
[12:00] <stpere> ilba7r, I have this hardware
[12:00] <MadpilotPPC> !tell Stricklin about fonts
[12:00] <ilba7r> !graphic cards
[12:00] <ubotu> ilba7r: Are you on ritalin?
[12:00] <Seveas> ilba7r, please don't experiment with the bot in the channel
[12:00] <HatchLing> ompaul: Alright, I'll give that a shot.  Thanks.
[12:00] <stpere> ilba7r, I did get it working
[12:00] <ilba7r> seveas i am not experimenting i am trying to get a location of webpage for hardware support
[12:01] <ompaul> HatchLing, as a live CD is all you want I would try 5.10 also
[12:01] <Seveas> ilba7r, wiki.ubunut.com/HardwareSupport
[12:01] <ilba7r> thanx stpere so is it working fine with ubuntu am in a process of buying new laptop and wanted to know how supported this card is
[12:01] <ilba7r> thanx seveas
[12:01] <kbrooks> what is breezy's version number? oh yeah
[12:01] <kbrooks> 5.10
[12:02] <HatchLing> ompaul: I want the live CD just for testing purposes; if it works out, I'll install to the HD.
[12:02] <stpere> ilba7r, you will get a blank screen by default
[12:02] <Belutz> Seveas, could you help me with this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2719 ?
[12:02] <therether> Seveas, i dont know if i mess with sound server....
[12:02] <stpere> ilba7r, but it's quite easy to install the right driver
[12:02] <ompaul> HatchLing, if it is your intention to install have a look at them all 5.10 will be stable on the 13th of Oct
[12:02] <helloyo> what has happened to the w32codecs packages? its dissappeared from ubp extras
[12:02] <Belutz> !+w32codecs
[12:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[12:02] <dooglus> my mouse arrow has got stuck in the shape of a document, and the keyboard has stopped responding.  is there anything I can do other than restarting X?
[12:02] <ilba7r> ok thanx stpere
[12:03] <Belutz> helloyo, go to what ubotu just told
[12:03] <helloyo> Belutz, thankyou!
[12:03] <ilba7r> Seveas i got webpage not found for the link you gave me
[12:03] <ilba7r> tanx all though will continue searching
[12:03] <Cashel> is there any reason I can remove the running kernel image if I've got a new one ready for reboot? apt-get is crying about it....
[12:03] <DeVeRaS> hi
[12:03] <Cashel> s/can/cant/
[12:04] <DeVeRaS> where does apache2 has the documentroot directive?
[12:04] <dooglus> alt-f2 gives me a command line window, but then I can't type any commands there
[12:04] <aurax> anyone got proftpd up and running i got some permissions and root directory issue
[12:05] <aurax> i want each of my users to have different root directory
[12:05] <dooglus> "pkill java" fixed it.  odd.
[12:05] <therether> Seveas, appears one error saying that could not open resource for writing...in mplayer when i play a song
[12:05] <jackconstantine> hey, got a weird gcc issue; lots of snips to go with it, so PM me if you think you can help?  Thanks a bunch
[12:06] <oneifreak> aurax: http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/doc/contrib/ProFTPD-mini-HOWTO-Chroot.html
[12:06] <DeVeRaS> i don't find this possible. Apache2 sents the information to /var/www/html but i don't see it anywhere in the conf file... where is this done in apache?
[12:06] <LasseL> when I ask ubuntu to shutdown it reboots instead, any hints?
[12:07] <concept10> LasseL, what command do you use? or from gui?
[12:07] <LasseL> concept10, gui
[12:08] <brosio> anyone could send to me a work cups.conf for hp ?
[12:08] <Trashcan> where is that located?
[12:08] <Trashcan> exactly
[12:08] <qzerty> LasseL: Your motherboard might not properly support ASPCI or APM
[12:08] <Trashcan> nm- seem's i dont have it
[12:08] <Trashcan> seems*
[12:09] <Stricklin> !tell Stricklin about fonts
[12:09] <qzerty> err ACPI
[12:09] <LasseL> qzerty, it is a year old, but it's a cheap as rock board, so you might be right
[12:09] <aurax> err any other good ftpd ?
[12:09] <aurax> this proftpd makes me sad
[12:09] <DeVeRaS> WHERE IS THE DOCUMENTROOT DIRECTIVE?
[12:09] <aurax> good & simple
[12:09] <qzerty> LasseL: Moreover, linux might not support your motherboard
[12:09] <DeVeRaS> sorry caps....
[12:09] <Stricklin> An encrypted page?!?
[12:09] <Seveas> DeVeRaS, /etc/apache2/*
[12:10] <qzerty> DeVeRaS: Apache 1 or 2?
[12:10] <DeVeRaS> 2
[12:10] <Broq> i just recieved my copy of ubuntu 5.04 but i wont install on my pc
[12:10] <qzerty> DeVeRaS: apache2.conf
[12:10] <DeVeRaS> notthere
[12:10] <LasseL> qzerty, should ASPCI and APM both be enabled in the bios for best results?
[12:10] <DeVeRaS> it's not there...
[12:10] <qzerty> DeVeRaS: then you screwed something up.
[12:10] <brosio>  where i could set admin pass for cups ?
[12:10] <DeVeRaS> can be
[12:10] <DeVeRaS> i never moved it
[12:11] <Broq> nic-firmware-6.2.10-5-386-di fail to unpack
[12:11] <DeVeRaS> do you have it on yours?
[12:11] <DeVeRaS> qzerty do you have it on yours?
[12:11] <Broq> can it be fixed?
[12:11] <qzerty> DeVeRaS: If your looking for it you will have to check your virtual host files
[12:12] <qzerty> DeVeRaS: Or you can add one and disable virtual hosts
[12:12] <qzerty>  check sites-available/default
[12:12] <Seveas> brosio, why do you wnat the web interface when there is a nice GUI?
[12:12] <DeVeRaS> qzerty virtual hosts?
[12:12] <pluffsy> hmm are there some system used for short cuts in the terminal? like some apps use c-C fr quit and c-Z for lite something that seems like force quit. but for example man only seems to quit on c-Z.
[12:12] <Broq> help pls
[12:13] <Seveas> pluffsy, c-Z is suspend, not quit
[12:13] <Seveas> man quits with q
[12:13] <DeVeRaS> qzerty and that is on what file?
[12:13] <qzerty> Ctrl+c sends sigint, ctrl+z suspends
[12:13] <qzerty> I just told you /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[12:13] <brosio> Seveas, i can't login
[12:14] <pluffsy> Seveas, what does suspend really mean?
[12:14] <qzerty> it means stop process, and detach it from tty
[12:15] <kbrooks> How do I send color to a printer with lpr?
[12:15] <pluffsy> qzerty: and it gives the app no chance to like clean up and stuff?
[12:15] <qzerty> pluffsy: if the app handles sigstp
[12:15] <kbrooks> pluffsy, its not literally stop
[12:15] <DeVeRaS> Come on ppl help me out
[12:15] <DeVeRaS> you don't have this directive on the file
[12:16] <DeVeRaS> i must be someplace else
[12:16] <DeVeRaS> i never deleted anything there (apache2.conf)
[12:16] <kbrooks> DeVeRaS, whats your problem?
[12:16] <Seveas> DeVeRaS, grep -i documentroot -R /etc/apache*
[12:16] <qzerty> your asking apache questions and you know nothing of apache: the document root directive is the fucking 5th line in your default file
[12:17] <Kyral> !lart qzerty
[12:17] <kbrooks> qzerty, why swear like that
[12:17] <liquidten2> <_<
[12:17] <qzerty> kbrooks: Because god hates him, and i wanted him to know i sympathize with god.
[12:17] <Seveas> qzerty: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[12:17] <kbrooks> kyral, do not play with the bot
[12:17] <Kyral> kbrooks, it was a special situation
[12:18] <Seveas> Kyral, no it wasn't
[12:18] <Kyral> I was larting him for the language
[12:18] <kbrooks> kyral: so?
[12:18] <tobi> nic-firmware-6.2.10-5-386-di failed to unpack and the system wont continue to install what should i do?
[12:18] <Kyral> If I had ops I would have kicked him
[12:18] <kbrooks> kyral: you are essentially representing the community
[12:18] <Seveas> Kyral, which is exactly why you are not an op...
[12:18] <qzerty> hahahaha
[12:18] <tobi> help pls
[12:18] <Seveas> now please stop it or takw this to -offtopic
[12:19] <Kyral> Language like that cannot be tolerated, especially in a help channel
[12:19] <tobi> help???
[12:19] <qzerty> tobi: you download a version of it that isn't corrupted
[12:19] <kbrooks> kyral: hiding behind the bot to do "offensive" commands isnt tolerated either
[12:19] <tobi> a cd was delivered to me
[12:20] <tobi> can it still be used?
[12:20] <brownscar> who knows alot about ubuntu?
[12:20] <qzerty> ...
[12:20] <qzerty> Who knows how to ask a question?
[12:20] <Thunderguy> So say, I had a warty install and a hoary cd, by putting the CD in sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade, it will upgrade itself from the newer cd right? would there be any disadvantage upgrading it from the cd, rather then reformatting it and reinstalling?
[12:21] <x_madbot> I have installed sylpheed-claws-gtk2, but now the "view" causes a segmantation fault, anyone knows about this?
[12:21] <qzerty> Thunderguy: you are right
[12:21] <x_madbot> "view" menu
[12:21] <Seveas> brownscar, no one knows, we just pretend to :)
[12:21] <mirak> I got this error when with ATI driver "could not open default font fixed"
[12:21] <Thunderguy> Say, If Im right 1.8 gigs is what Ubuntu comes out to, if I upgrade, would it be using a lot more space or would it delete the old files it doesn't need?
[12:22] <qzerty> Thunderguy: No real disadvantages assumming everything goes right, other than strayed directories and you having to overwrite alot of confs
[12:22] <Seveas> Thunderguy, during the upgrade you will need a lot of extra diskspace
[12:22] <Seveas> but afterwards not
[12:22] <qzerty> Thunderguy: issue apt-get clean aftewards
[12:22] <Thunderguy> ah ok.
[12:22] <brownscar> qzerty
[12:22] <brownscar> can u help me out
[12:22] <Thunderguy> so then what I might do is delete my gnome,xserver, home directory configs? and certain programs that were affected by the upgrade?
[12:23] <Seveas> !tell brownscar about ask
[12:23] <Seveas> Thunderguy, why would you?
[12:23] <kbrooks> Thunderguy, No.
[12:23] <Thunderguy> Would the program be smart enough to rewrite the configs?
[12:23] <Thunderguy> or import the old configs?
[12:23] <aurax> i need good ftpd
[12:23] <kbrooks> Thunderguy, it doesn't "rewrite", it merely prompts you
[12:23] <Seveas> for global configs (/etc), yes it is smart enough
[12:24] <aurax> simple to config and easy to jail users
[12:24] <aurax> and idea?
[12:24] <Seveas> or sort of smart enough
[12:24] <Seveas> aurax, vsftpd
[12:24] <aurax> Seveas
[12:24] <qzerty> Thunderguy: It will prompt you for every config you ened to overwrite
[12:24] <aurax> i tell you what my prob is
[12:24] <ali4728> Help I get this error "Relay access denied" when try to send email through remote client. I can receive but cant send email. Here is mail.log http://pastebin.com/381072  Any comments appreciated.
[12:24] <Seveas> or else pureftpd with pureadmin
[12:24] <qzerty> Thunderguy: So expect to hit Y about 15 times
[12:24] <aurax> i got samba dir with user that is read/write access
[12:24] <brownscar> I am trying to install Ubuntu onto my laptop and when I am about to partition my drives it says I have 8MB left, when I have 4.2 GB free when I am in Windows XP.
[12:24] <aurax> hmm
[12:24] <aurax> its easy?
[12:24] <brownscar> what is that all about?
[12:25] <aurax> pureadmin php
[12:25] <aurax> ?
[12:25] <Thunderguy> Another question, They have some linux distro's coming out in stores for like $60 I think eventually it will be fore sale next to windows, If I got permission from a store..
[12:25] <Seveas> ali4728, did you read the mail server manual like I suggested?
[12:25] <Seveas> pureadmin is a gtk gui
[12:25] <ali4728> Seveas, yeah still got the problem
[12:25] <Thunderguy> and burned my Own Ubuntu Discs and put them in an area next to the priced Linux distro's with a sign that says: Free Take one, think that would be bad?
[12:25] <aurax> ah its remote system
[12:25] <sorush20> how do I uninstall
[12:25] <qzerty> brownscar: your drive is already partitioned then, delete the partition and allow linux to write its own filesystem to it
[12:25] <ali4728> Seveas, I can receive but not send!
[12:25] <Seveas> ali4728, then you didn't read good enoguh
[12:25] <sorush20> make install
[12:25] <sorush20> make uninstall
[12:25] <Seveas> ali4728, and NO i will not give shortcuts
[12:25] <kbrooks> I want to change my background to a blank one. what to do?
[12:26] <Seveas> giving half-baked instructions has the risk of turning your machine into a spam host
[12:26] <ekimus> !ati
[12:26] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[12:26] <ubuntu> hello all
[12:26] <Seveas> so read the manual carefully
[12:26] <Seveas> it's in there
[12:26] <DeThroneD> Thunderguy: bad for whom?  ;)
[12:26] <brownscar> if I choose the 60GB option
[12:26] <brownscar> will it delete everything in windows?
[12:26] <ali4728> Seveas, it is confusing to me , thats why I am here!!!
[12:26] <Thunderguy> Well I'm not sure about redistributing Ubuntu, If I distribute Ubuntu to the stores, should I order their cd's, I figured I should use my own resources.
[12:27] <qzerty> brownscar: most certainly
[12:27] <kbrooks> Thunderguy, you're allowed to redistribute ubuntu
[12:27] <Thunderguy> If I put ubuntu in say wal-mart I'd either burn 50 cd-r's to make 25 disc packs, or order a lot from shipit
[12:27] <qzerty> It would be a total waste to put them in wal-mart.
[12:27] <Seveas> :)
[12:27] <brownscar> qzert: but it says on the cd package that all I need is 1.8 GB free space
[12:27] <Thunderguy> ah.
[12:28] <brownscar> and i wanna have a dual OS laptop
[12:28] <stpere> brownscar, you need to resize your current partition
[12:28] <kbrooks> Yay. warty -> hoary almost done.
[12:28] <qzerty> brownscar: Thats right but that 1.8gb has to come from a totally autonomous partition not empty space on your windows partition
[12:28] <Seveas> kbrooks, lol, that's late :)
[12:28] <kbrooks> Seveas, "late"?
[12:29] <brownscar> ok so how can i resize my current partition?
[12:29] <Thunderguy> See what I'm thinking is, if I put it.. Right next to Lindows ( I forget what they renamed that distro ) People might pick up the free one.
[12:29] <qzerty> brownscar: Google for the term 'hard drive partition' and allow that to clear up the confusion
[12:29] <qzerty> brownscar: Partition Magic 8 or the like.
[12:29] <Seveas> kbrooks, hoary is half a year old now
[12:29] <sorush20> how may passwords can firefox hold.. can I change it to a higher number or not
[12:29] <qzerty> brownscar: You need to be able to resize an ntfs partition
[12:29] <Seveas> upgrading to hoary now is late :)
[12:29] <brownscar> thank u
[12:29] <kbrooks> Seveas, i'm not rushing to breezy yet
[12:29] <qzerty> I've been using breezy for 6months now
[12:29] <kbrooks> Seveas, it is not stable.
[12:30] <Thunderguy> Does anyone order from shipit every 6 months? ( when a new distro comes out? )
[12:30] <Seveas> qzerty, impossible
[12:30] <yarddog> breezy works for me, hoary froze on my system
[12:30] <kbrooks> well.....
[12:30] <sorush20> why couldn't upgrading to breezy be as simple as Ubuntu update manager.. why hasn't anyone addressed this
[12:30] <Seveas> Thunderguy, yes, but just to spread them
[12:30] <kbrooks> maybe i should try breezy out then
[12:30] <Seveas> sorush20, it's an UBZ BOF
[12:30] <Belutz> the dist-upgrade took me 15 hours to complete :(
[12:30] <yarddog> it is easy to update
[12:30] <kbrooks> Seveas, UBZ BOF?
[12:30] <brownscar> does partition magic let u ntfs partition?
[12:30] <Seveas> kbrooks, wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero
[12:31] <qzerty> Seveas: I moved to breeze shortly after hoary frooze =[ 6monthsish sounds right
[12:31] <yarddog> 15 hrs?
[12:31] <yarddog> yikes
[12:31] <kbrooks> aH.
[12:31] <kevogod> It took me like 2 hours.
[12:31] <Thunderguy> ah ok, Seveas: I ordered 20 cd's from shipit 3 months ago, in 2 months I got rid of 10 to people that wanted them, so if breezy comes out, I don't know what to do with the other 10.
[12:31] <yarddog> shouldnt really be a big deal
[12:31] <yarddog> download, watch it update, reboot, done.
[12:31] <Thunderguy> however, I think If I order 20 this time, I may get all the breezy's out before the next one comes out, ( since I would have about 4 months on my hands correct? )
[12:32] <Belutz> yup 15 hours... slow connections in here in indonesia :(
[12:32] <kbrooks> Hmmm.
[12:32] <yarddog> omg
[12:32] <yarddog> sounds like dialup
[12:32] <kbrooks> Is a IDE included in hoary, Seveas?
[12:32] <ubuntu> Today, I stand as a windows user now on linux. Ubuntu rocks!
[12:32] <Thunderguy> kbrooks: I'm on an IDE drive.
[12:32] <kbrooks> No.
[12:32] <brownscar> qzerty: if i get the trial and i uninstall it after will it undo the changes?
[12:32] <kbrooks> Thunderguy, you misread
[12:32] <qzerty> brownscar: I have no idea.
[12:33] <schpenke> ubuntu: Congrats.  Enjoy your new freedom.
[12:33] <kbrooks> IDE = integrated development environment
[12:33] <brownscar> qzerty: lol thats reassuring
[12:33] <Belutz> yarddog, not dial up, cable... but the maximum download is only 15kbps
[12:33] <kbrooks> Belutz, that sucks
[12:34] <kbrooks> Belutz, why they'd cap the dl?
[12:34] <Belutz> kbrooks, yep, that really sucks
[12:34] <yarddog> wow
[12:34] <kbrooks> Belutz, i have 40 (up to) kb/s
[12:34] <Belutz> kbrooks, that's because internet connections is still expensive in here
[12:34] <kbrooks> actually, it goes up to 37
[12:34] <jackconstantine> yo, having issues with gcc
[12:35] <jackconstantine> i try to compile something
[12:35] <jackconstantine> and get
[12:35] <jackconstantine> C++ compiler cannot create executables.
[12:35] <jackconstantine> (it recognizes gcc)
[12:35] <Thunderguy> If I got a CD together with: win32 codecs, instructions for sources.list, wineX precompiled, some programs, some manuals, some Video,Audio Libraries, Server Libraries, ClamAv, and most of the stuff aforementioned in the UbuntuGuide, Think I would have any legal problems distributing it With the Ubuntu Set?
[12:35] <Belutz> but i'm happy that i'm breezy-ing right now :D
[12:35] <juanfra> hi
[12:35] <kbrooks> Thunderguy, Not really.
[12:36] <Belutz> and having an ATI issues
[12:36] <yarddog> where can i get the win32codecs ?
[12:36] <kbrooks> !+w32codecs
[12:36] <Thunderguy> It would be like: Ubuntu-Addons (distro-name)
[12:36] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[12:36] <deanmck> somethings wrong with my desktop. I was messing around with a theme and now I can't click on my desktop... any suggestions?
[12:36] <kbrooks> @ yarddog
[12:36] <deanmck> I've restarted gnome
[12:36] <therether> ppl....a little help with playing mp3 on rhythm and box....:) hellppp:)
[12:36] <tristanmike> Thunderguy, you'd have to pay for the codecs that have licencing, or risk those people coming after you. After all, wouldn't this be the reason Ubuntu doesn't include it?
[12:36] <kbrooks> !+mp3
[12:36] <therether> ppl....a little help with playing mp3 on rhythm and box....:) hellppp:))))
[12:36] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[12:37] <nomed> hi all
[12:37] <Thunderguy> Ah Ok.
[12:37] <kbrooks> therether, maybe the above link will help you a bit
[12:37] <nomed> how can i unpatch the ubuntu kernel source ..? i need to remove just the vesafb patch
[12:37] <imterro> hmmm does anyone know a good place to get linux codecs?
[12:38] <deanmck> is nautilus what runs the desktop?
[12:38] <D1> what do you mean, linux codecs?
[12:38] <kbrooks> imterro, maybe you want w32codecs?
[12:38] <cius> hello
[12:38] <tristanmike> Thunderguy, you may want to check out this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30147 for something along the lines of what you're looking for, I believe.
[12:38] <therether> kbrooks, what link ?
[12:39] <Thunderguy> Why thank you.
[12:39] <kbrooks> therether:
[12:39] <imterro> kbrooks, i would just like codecs because most of my clips wont run
[12:39] <kbrooks> !+mp3
[12:39] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[12:39] <cius> I have 5.1 channel sound on my intel mobo, ac97 codec, and I want to say AD1985 chipset (?) and I can't for the life of me get it to work on ubuntu hoary.  Can someone help?
[12:39] <dooglus> whenever I run GNOME, I always get these 3 processes start up: evolution-alarm-notify evolution-exchange-storage evolution-data-server-1.4.  Is it possible to stop that?  I don't use evolution, and don't intend to.
[12:39] <yarddog> i always thought torrent was fast, this is like dialup :(
[12:39] <kbrooks> imtero: !+w32codecs
[12:39] <therether> kbrooks, ok thanks
[12:39] <kbrooks> !+w32codecs
[12:39] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[12:39] <D1> is bt the only place to get the codecs from now that they're out of backports?
[12:40] <yarddog> kbrooks, lol
[12:40] <cius> ubotu, is those are apt repos right?
[12:40] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, cius
[12:40] <kbrooks> yarddog, whats so funny?
[12:40] <Seveas> kbrooks, help.ubuntu.com is in progress
[12:40] <cychem1> how can i make sasl2 authdaemond give very verbose out put and what log will it ouput to?
[12:40] <Seveas> there's doc.ubuntu.com in the meantime
[12:40] <kbrooks> Seveas, i really should point people to that, yes? ;)
[12:41] <kbrooks> oh. no.
[12:41] <yarddog> kbrooks, nothing really funny, since everyone seems to ask the same questions, maybe put in the topic :)
[12:41] <kbrooks> yarddog, the topic is ... hmmm
[12:42] <MadpilotPPC> yarddog, that would only work if people actually read the topic... :P
[12:42] <kbrooks> "bloated"
[12:42] <yarddog> heh
[12:42] <imterro> hmm it would appear aptitude doesnt have them
[12:42] <Seveas> kbrooks, given that it's already in the topic we can assume noone reads it...
[12:42] <kbrooks> hard to describe ;)
[12:42] <MadpilotPPC> !tell imterro about w32codecs
[12:42] <yarddog> kbrooks, after this win32codec file donwloads, dpkg -i .... ?
[12:43] <Seveas> There, trimmed the topic a bit
[12:43] <kbrooks> Seveas, Thanks ;)
[12:44] <dell500> is there a dvd of 5.10?
[12:44] <kbrooks> dell500, kind of pointless
[12:44] <cius> would anyone have any advice on how to fix my 5.1 problem.  I've googled a lot and still can't get it working
[12:44] <dell500> kbrooks, cause there is a new release soon?
[12:44] <cius> I suppose ther should have been a question mark in there somewhere
[12:44] <brian__> hello everyone
[12:44] <_native_> so WEP is broken in ubuntu i assume. wireless works out of the box only in usecured nets.
[12:45] <_native_> *unsecured
[12:45] <brian__> i had a question about running VNC on my newly installed Ubuntu box
[12:45] <kbrooks> dell500, No. Look at FC, they supply multiple cds, and one DVD which combines those multiple cds
[12:45] <_native_> transparent Xchat yay!
[12:45] <PeerSoft> how do I get my modem to work, i know its supported.
[12:45] <kbrooks> dell500, but for ubuntu, its kind of pointless
[12:45] <brian__> vncserver doesn't seem to be present on the system though the package manager says that the client/server is installed
[12:45] <kbrooks> _native_, how do I set that up?
[12:46] <dell500> kbrooks, why is it pointless/
[12:46] <qzerty> ...
[12:46] <cychem1> how can i make sasl2 authdaemond give very verbose out put and what log will it ouput to?
[12:46] <brian__> does anyone know how to get vncserver installed?
[12:46] <discipleofyeshua> hey guys
[12:46] <kbrooks> dell500, I implied
[12:46] <qzerty> wep works fine in ubuntu
[12:46] <kbrooks> 'one cd'
[12:46] <discipleofyeshua> is anyone one? i have a question about my connection speed: for some reason, it is really slow, i have ubuntu with a 56k US robotics modem
[12:46] <_native_> hold on.
[12:46] <discipleofyeshua> does anyone know where i can check my modem's connection speed on ubuntu?
[12:46] <discipleofyeshua> you know, i went to that link and installed some of the MP3 and dvd components on my system, but many of them didnt install, i think its because my connection speed is to slow, does anyone know where i can check it, or somehow make it faster? windows is much faster on this same connection
[12:46] <discipleofyeshua> on the same modem, ect
[12:46] <discipleofyeshua> also, i am wondering how i can get to a different chat room...
[12:47] <qzerty> discipleofyeshua: /disco #chatroom
[12:47] <discipleofyeshua> peerosft, i well tell you how i got my modem working...
[12:47] <discipleofyeshua> are you still there>?
[12:47] <mattyJ> whats a good app to convert ogg to mp3?
[12:47] <kbrooks> discipleofyeshua, Clarification: no chatrooms. only channels.
[12:47] <discipleofyeshua> how do i register my nick to go there?
[12:47] <mirak> how to run ATi control panel fglrx-control ?
[12:47] <qzerty> discipleofyeshua: /msg nickserv register password
[12:48] <brian__> can anyone see my messages?
[12:48] <scale> i'm having a hard time unzipping a .7z file... i tried searching for p7zip on the universe repository but it isn't there, apparently...
[12:48] <therether> ...i need some help, i cant play mp3 in my rhythm and box. I had tried everything...someone can help me ?
[12:48] <scale> if anyone can help please feel free to msg me
[12:48] <joe_alf> scale, sudo apt-get 7zip
[12:48] <DonL> discipleofyeshua, try : http://www.internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/
[12:48] <joe_alf> scale, sudo apt-get install 7zip
[12:48] <MadpilotPPC> therether, you need mp3 codecs installed, they aren't by default
[12:49] <MadpilotPPC> !tell therether about mp3
[12:49] <brian__> hello everyone
[12:49] <_native_> kaycee
[12:49] <_native_> you here
[12:49] <Seveas> !info p7zip
[12:49] <_native_> ?
[12:49] <Seveas> !info p7zip breezy
[12:49] <ubotu> p7zip: (7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 4.20-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1384 kB, Installed size: 3608 kB
[12:49] <Seveas> ah -- it's only in breezy
[12:49] <tristanmike> boooooo
[12:49] <Seveas> brian__, no we can't see them ;)
[12:49] <scale> so how do i get it into hoary?
[12:49] <tristanmike> I needed 7zip too
[12:50] <Seveas> I can make a backport
[12:50] <therether> MadpilotPPC, i have the mp3 codecs installed :). I can play mp3 on xmms for example. Only in the Rhytmn and box mp3 dont work :'(
[12:50] <scale> seveas =teH rawK
[12:51] <smiroldo> hi there!
[12:51] <MadpilotPPC> therether, you mean "Rythymbox"? it plays mp3 for me - double check which codecs you've got installed
[12:51] <bzimage> olah
[12:51] <PeerSoft> I installed Kubuntu ; and for some reason my "supported" modem isn't working - but it works fine on windows.  I seen on a website the other night that it is supported by linux ; and its a PCTEL Platinum V.90 56k modem?  anyone know wtfs wrong? I am a new linux user; and I would really love to access the internet on it?
[12:51] <imterro> mind if i ask how to install this codec thing i downloaded?
[12:52] <smiroldo> can someone tell me how to configure the services on boot?
[12:52] <Trashcan> is it in a .deb?
[12:52] <scandium> hello, I tried installing breezy/amd64 using colony 5 and the most current daily build, but both fail at the beginning of the installation reading "jfsutils-udeb", the installer says error reading from the disc, the console output says "WARNING: ** bad md5sum" - but I tried two different CDs and the md5sum of both ISOs was correct - sounds too much of a coincidence to me to be a physical disc problem? Anyone seen that before?
[12:52] <D1> any of you guys use xchat-gnome?
[12:52] <therether> MadpilotPPC, yes Rhythmbox, but i think the codecs are good...xmms, beep, and others play mp3.
[12:52] <therether> MadpilotPPC, only Rhythmbox no...
[12:52] <imterro> Trashcan, yes it is
[12:52] <tristanmike> imterro, "sudo dpkg -i <packagename>" if it's a ".deb"
[12:52] <imterro> thanks
[12:52] <Trashcan> what he said
[12:52] <imterro> dpkg?
[12:53] <transgress>  hello comrades!
[12:53] <tristanmike> imterro, in the terminal, and yes "dpkg" is the command
[12:53] <_native_> welcome
[12:53] <Seveas> tristanmike, scale -- package is building...
[12:53] <discipleofyeshua> i am sorry, but i havnt been able to register my nick, because no one has explained it clearly enough for me to do so...
[12:53] <discipleofyeshua> thank you
[12:53] <Han> he, hi. Hang on, I'm preparing my question.
[12:53] <discipleofyeshua> any idea about how to make it faster? i have a US robotics 56k ecternal... and it is soooo slow running on ubuntu for some reason...
[12:54] <tristanmike> Seveas, that's sweet, when I learn to do the same thing, I will return the favors
[12:54] <PeerSoft> usually a 56k modem is slow either way u hzve it.
[12:54] <PeerSoft> have*
[12:54] <PeerSoft> but mine isnt working on kubuntu for some reason
[12:54] <PeerSoft> and its suppose to be supoprted according to a website ;x
[12:54] <bzimage> ;)
[12:54] <PeerSoft> l,ol
[12:54] <PeerSoft> well can u help? ;x
[12:55] <PeerSoft> this is the first time ive ever messed w/ linux before
[12:55] <smiroldo> can someone tell me how to configure the services on boot?
[12:55] <Seveas> smiroldo, system -> administration -> services
[12:55] <phreak_> I'm having some problems with the 64bit edition, I think i'm going to resinstall down the the I32
[12:56] <scale> seveas: this is what the backports page on sourceforge is for, right? requests like this?
[12:56] <phreak_> Anyone have any luck with the evolution-exchange on 64bit?
[12:56] <_native_> what services
[12:56] <_native_> ?
[12:57] <Seveas> scale, no
[12:57] <cius> anyone in here use intel onboard 5.1 sound?
[12:57] <Seveas> scale, tristanmike -- http://81.171.100.19/~dennis/
[12:57] <imterro> hmmm odd, i installed the codecs, but the file still wont play, anyone know why?
[12:57] <Han> I installed xfont-terminus package and According to /etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-terminus.alias there should be an alias fontname terminus-24. But when I run xterm -fn terminus-24 it can't find the font. Nor can I find that font with xlsfonts. How can I fix that?
[12:57] <discipleofyeshua> hey, could any of you fine folks tell me why my modem speed might be so slow, and how i can speed it up? i am running an external 56k US robotics on ubuntu
[12:58] <Seveas> discipleofyeshua, order DSL, that will speed up things
[12:58] <Seveas> modems are slow by nature
[12:58] <tristanmike> Seveas, that was very nice of you to take the time to do that for us, thanx
[12:58] <thrice`> how is breezy still f'ed, this close to release
[12:58] <PeerSoft> mk seems like noone knows how to install the modem on linux?
[12:58] <DonL> discipleofyeshua, did you try the website link I showed you? What speeds are you getting?
[12:58] <scale> seveas: thanks a lot... really appreciate it
[12:58] <discipleofyeshua> No, i know that my modem is much faster on windows... there must be somting wrong with the config, or somthing that would make it so slow...
[12:58] <Han> hello thrice` what are you doing here? :-)
[12:58] <thrice`> Han, testing ubuntu on a friends box =] 
[12:58] <Seveas> thrice`, it isn't
[12:58] <thrice`> with bad luck
[12:59] <Seveas> what's the prob?
[12:59] <thrice`> Seveas, gdm won't start
[12:59] <Han> Hmm works ok here, most of the time.
[12:59] <Seveas> thrice`, how old is your install CD?
[12:59] <thrice`> Seveas, i did a hoary update
[12:59] <Seveas> just now?
[12:59] <thrice`> ineed
[12:59] <ultramancool> hi
[12:59] <Seveas> did you reboot?
[12:59] <Han> thrice`, reboot
[12:59] <ultramancool> how can i disable su?
[12:59] <thrice`> of course =] 
[12:59] <thrice`> libGL issues
[12:59] <Seveas> thrice`, what's the error?
[12:59] <Seveas> ah
[01:00] <_native_> remove it ;] 
[01:00] <thrice`> i tried using fglrx, not using fglrx,
[01:00] <phreak_> Wow, its been probebly 8 years since i've had a modem :)
[01:00] <bzimage> ultramancool, why?
[01:00] <Seveas> ati/nvidia drivers manually compiled?
[01:00] <thrice`> Seveas, no chance, I have no X...
[01:00] <ultramancool> how can i make it so that su is only acessible to the wheel group?
[01:00] <Seveas> i mean, before the upgrade
[01:00] <DonL> thrice`, I had the same problem. Ended up fixing it with Aptitude, though I don't quite know what I did, and several reboots
[01:00] <Seveas> ultramancool, su is disabled by default
[01:00] <ultramancool> not to other users!
[01:00] <thrice`> Seveas, no, using repos's drivers
[01:00] <scale> seveas: worked great. thanks a lot...
[01:00] <ultramancool> users can su to other users
[01:00] <kbrooks> use sudo, ultramancool
[01:01] <mattyJ> whats a good app to convert ogg to mp3?
[01:01] <d33p> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:01] <ultramancool> users can su to other users
[01:01] <Han> ultramancool, that's an option explained in the manpage
[01:01] <Seveas> thrice`, hmm... those should ebe upgraded too...
[01:01] <kbrooks> sudo <command>
[01:01] <ultramancool> it doesn't!
[01:01] <thrice`> Seveas, yes, they were
[01:01] <_native_> better question: how to truly disable root and only allow sudo.
[01:01] <Seveas> do you have ubuntu-desktop installed and linux-386 (or -686 or -k7)
[01:01] <thrice`> Seveas, but it fails, and just spits out my xorg.conf as a decoding tool
[01:01] <kbrooks> _native_, passwd -l. easy nuff, no?
[01:01] <claydoh> PeerSoft: what model modem?
[01:01] <Seveas> ultramancool, chmod 0000 /bin/su
[01:01] <ultramancool> THE PROBLEM IS THAT USERS CAN SU TO OTHER USERS NOT ROOT!
[01:01] <_native_> granted that it would be trivial to reenable
[01:01] <PeerSoft> Pctel Platinum v90
[01:01] <Seveas> ultramancool, and drop the caps
[01:02] <PeerSoft> manufactured by Compaq
[01:02] <ultramancool> I was shouting!
[01:02] <thrice`> Seveas, um, I should; it was a clean hoary install, update to breezy
[01:02] <d33p> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:02] <thrice`> with only installing vid. drivers as a modification
[01:02] <Seveas> thrice`, sduo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:02] <thrice`> Seveas, hrm...alright
[01:02] <oxez> d33p: apt-get install build-essentials
[01:02] <Seveas> manually tweaked xorg.conf can wreak havoc
[01:02] <Seveas> X has been massively changed
[01:02] <ultramancool> i mean the real way through pam?
[01:02] <oxez> d33p: or build-essential, im not sure
[01:02] <thrice`> Seveas, and if that fails ?
[01:02] <imterro> can anyone tell me why after i installed the codecs that i still cannot play the file?
[01:02] <thrice`> i'm on my crux box at the moment, as this won't boot =|
[01:02] <Seveas> thrice`, then come back ;)
[01:02] <ultramancool> now chmod or chown or chgrp
[01:02] <kbrooks> oxez, essential
[01:03] <thrice`> should I try to install fglrx first ?
[01:03] <thrice`> is fglrx built into the kernel ?
[01:03] <Hunkyspunky> hi.
[01:03] <_native_> so is there a simple soulution to truly enforce only sudo.  the sudoer not being able to change this.??
[01:03] <tristanmike> how do I run 7zip now?
[01:03] <Seveas> ultramancool, disabling su is so uncommon (and usually stupid) that there is no 'neat' way afaik
[01:03] <Hunkyspunky> i can't get windows to boot ubuntu live cd
[01:03] <d33p> oxez, it's build-essential... but gcc seams to have dependencies problems :(
[01:03] <oxez> kbrooks: yes ok
[01:03] <ultramancool> YES THERE IS
[01:03] <ultramancool> !!!
[01:03] <Hunkyspunky> i setup bios for cd boot first
[01:03] <ubotu> ! is, like, totally, what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[01:03] <thrice`> Seveas, ah, ok; i'll try a few more things =] 
[01:03] <Seveas> ultramancool, last time, drop the caps
[01:03] <deanmck> I was messing around with my backcground, but now I can't click anything on the desktop and the icons are missing, all of the panels still work does anyone have any suggestions?
[01:04] <kbrooks> ultramancool, drop those evil caps
[01:04] <nalioth_wrkn> tristanmike: 7za <option> <file>
[01:04] <ultramancool> Seveas: I only use caps when I'm shouting
[01:04] <tristanmike> no gui?
[01:04] <Hunkyspunky> can someone pm me to help me with live cd?
[01:04] <alkalineX> gah.. my highlands keep notifing me everytime you mention *ultra*
[01:04] <_native_> cause what i know from sudoers configuration it is seems hard to enforce.
[01:04] <Seveas> ultramancool, then don't shout
[01:04] <alkalineX> highlights*
[01:04] <Seveas> and edit /etc/pam.d/su to your needas
[01:04] <kbrooks> imterro?
[01:04] <ultramancool> Seveas: also, run for yourself cat /etc/pam.d/su
[01:04] <Seveas> needs*
[01:04] <Seveas> the file is documented
[01:05] <Hunkyspunky> come on over 500 people soemone must be able to help me.
[01:05] <ultramancool> Seveas: the problem is, changing the option doesn't work
[01:05] <Hunkyspunky> live cd probelms i got
[01:05] <ssdd65> how do i probe for eth cards?
[01:05] <DonL> Hunkyspunky, have you changed the boot sequence in you bios?
[01:06] <Seveas> ultramancool, what did you specify
[01:06] <Hunkyspunky> i have changed my boot sequecne to for on board or usb cd device is ifrst then had seconmd
[01:06] <Hunkyspunky> it searches for a bootable cd but fails
[01:06] <tristanmike> thanx nalioth, but does it incorperate into my archive manager or is just strictly a command line tool?
[01:06] <d33p> can't install gcc, it seams to have dependency problems, weird
[01:06] <Hunkyspunky> i downloaded the iso and burnt to dvd
[01:06] <kbrooks> I want to close a workspace. how can i do this
[01:06] <Hunkyspunky> the dvd is still open
[01:07] <kbrooks> nalioth! long time no see
[01:07] <Hunkyspunky> but when windows is lauched the autoplay comes up
[01:07] <DonL> Hunkyspunky, ahh. Maybe you didn't "build" a bootable cd
[01:07] <Hunkyspunky> anybody now what could be the porblem?
[01:07] <ultramancool> # Uncomment this to force users to be a member of group root
[01:07] <ultramancool> # before they can use `su'. You can also add "group=foo" to
[01:07] <ultramancool> # to the end of this line if you want to use a group other
[01:07] <ultramancool> # than the default "root".
[01:07] <ultramancool> # (Replaces the `SU_WHEEL_ONLY' option from login.defs)
[01:07] <ultramancool> auth       required   pam_wheel.so group=wheel debug
[01:07] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[01:07] <grndslm> NO CAPS!
[01:07] <grndslm> j/k
[01:07] <kbrooks> Gosh.
[01:07] <Trashcan> jesus seveas... ban him already :\
[01:08] <Hunkyspunky> i downlaoded the files and extracted files using winrar and then burnt files to dvd
[01:08] <Hunkyspunky> the autoplay works on windows
[01:08] <PassionLim> What dose "NO CAPS" mean?
[01:08] <deanmck> hunkyspunky so you're unable to boot to the dvd?
[01:08] <Hunkyspunky> yes
[01:08] <PeerSoft> you should've used nero hunky
[01:08] <PeerSoft> to burn the whole image
[01:08] <PeerSoft> including the boots
[01:08] <Trashcan> finally
[01:08] <Hunkyspunky> is there anyhting i can do?
[01:08] <grndslm> it was for Seveas
[01:08] <PeerSoft> yea
[01:09] <PeerSoft> redownload it
[01:09] <PeerSoft> and reburn it
[01:09] <PeerSoft> lol
[01:09] <PeerSoft> thats all I personalyl can tell u
[01:09] <PeerSoft> considering I dont know anything about linux
[01:09] <Hunkyspunky> i oredered 1 live cd on shipit but won't ship for a while and want to see if this will run
[01:09] <PeerSoft> im in here tryin to get modem help
[01:09] <PeerSoft> ;x
[01:09] <discipleofyeshua> you know, i tried does anyone know how to make your letters red, or to speak privatly to someone?
[01:09] <Hunkyspunky> thansk
[01:09] <Trashcan> disciple: type /msg theirname message
[01:09] <PeerSoft> yea
[01:09] <PeerSoft> trashcan i  was typing it out
[01:09] <hondje> discipleofyeshua: it shows red when I type your name in xchat, and /msg <person> <stuff> is the other part
[01:09] <PeerSoft> lol
[01:09] <nalioth> discipleofyeshua: when someone types your nick, it shows up differently to alert you
[01:09] <Hunkyspunky> also when i run live cd all my dirvers are loaded and evices working?
[01:10] <discipleofyeshua> does anyone have any suggestions as to how i could check my modem speed, or somehow get it to run faster? it is running really slowly!
[01:10] <hondje> and if they have an annoyingly long nick, type the first part and hit tab to get the rest
[01:10] <itz> discipleofyeshua,  Y dipp it into water
[01:10] <Hunkyspunky> thansk
[01:11] <Hunkyspunky> also is ubuntu better then windows?
[01:11] <Hunkyspunky> securer?
[01:11] <discipleofyeshua> nalioth this this work, did my letters appear red to you?
[01:11] <Seveas> Hunkyspunky, of course :)
[01:11] <bam_> anyone know how to stop mounted drives from appearing on my desktop?
[01:11] <bzimage> Hunkyspunky, define better
[01:11] <bzimage> ;)
[01:11] <Seveas> bam_, it's a key hidden deep down in gconf
[01:11] <deanmck> what app is running the desktop icons, clicking/dragging, right-click etc?
[01:11] <Seveas> open gconf-editor
[01:11] <Hunkyspunky> stable and doesn't carash often good a t networking and that stuff
[01:11] <Seveas> and browse through /apps/nautilus
[01:11] <bam_> ohh.....
[01:11] <thrice`> Seveas, ah, that worked; shall I avoid trying fglrx til release?
[01:12] <Hunkyspunky> later guys going to wait for shipit to send cds
[01:12] <bzimage> Hunkyspunky, in that case: yes it's better than windows
[01:12] <nalioth> discipleofyeshua: it is good policy to put the persons nick in front of your text when you are talking to them
[01:12] <Seveas> thrice`, you can re-enable fglrx
[01:12] <thrice`> i like this new background =] 
[01:12] <tristanmike> I can't get 7zip to work, I get "Incorrect command line" on a "7za -e <filename.7z", what am I doing wrong?
[01:13] <kbrooks> nalioth: am i on ignore? :(
[01:13] <Seveas> tristanmike, try 7za -e filename.7z
[01:13] <bzimage> thrice`, i can read you
[01:13] <bzimage> :)
[01:13] <thierry_> how do I  take off my old kernels from my gmd boot thing
[01:13] <discipleofyeshua> nalioth you mean like this?
[01:13] <discipleofyeshua> nalioth: you mean like this? is this working?
[01:13] <discipleofyeshua> sigh...
[01:13] <discipleofyeshua> linux can be so frustrating sometimes to get it right
[01:13] <Seveas> thierry_, remove their packages
[01:13] <tristanmike> Seveas, that's what I did, I forgot the ">" in that last line
[01:13] <thierry_> Seveas : already done and it's still there
[01:14] <discipleofyeshua> people tell me how to do somthing, but alot of times i dont understand, because they assume that i know a certain step already that they would take for granted
[01:14] <tristanmike> Seveas, I didn't really use the <>
[01:14] <Seveas> tristanmike, ah ok
[01:14] <discipleofyeshua> and they are ina  hurry
[01:14] <phreak_> quck question, i've got a .run file, and it will not execute
[01:14] <phreak_> should i just sh at terminal on it?
[01:14] <natedogg> how can I test if my sound works?
[01:14] <bzimage> phreak_, chmod it to 755
[01:14] <kbrooks> phreak_, run file on it
[01:14] <bzimage> then execute it
[01:14] <kbrooks> bzimage, +x
[01:15] <Seveas> tristanmike, 7za e instead of 7za -e
[01:15] <Seveas> or better: 7za x
[01:15] <boxerboy29> the device data base in the system tools menu
[01:15] <thierry_> Seveas : I seriously need to take off my old kernel... but how??
[01:15] <phreak_> I allready chmodded it to 777
[01:15] <tristanmike> Seveas, yeah, bingo, isn't the "-" used to define the option though? Why does it work without it?
[01:16] <discipleofyeshua> nalioth: do you know a way to check my current modem connection speed in ubuntu? or how to improve that speed? why is it so much slower than windows right now?
[01:16] <whyameye> Is there any way from keeping programs from stealing focus?
[01:16] <tgreen> need help on getting sound on the mplayer
[01:16] <HrdwrBoB> tristanmike: + says 'add this permission'
[01:16] <Seveas> tristanmike, read 'man 7za' :)
[01:16] <dooglus> tristanmike: if you just run "7za" without arguments it shows you usage information
[01:16] <bzimage> e.g. chmod 755 blablabla.run && ./blablabla.run
[01:16] <yawgmoth7> Is there a name for a sound driver, like could i just sudo apt-get install <Sound driver name here>
[01:16] <yawgmoth7> Because i have the sound driver
[01:16] <Seveas> thierry_, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:17] <HrdwrBoB> yawgmoth7: what sound card
[01:17] <HrdwrBoB> yawgmoth7: you should not need to install any drivers
[01:17] <yawgmoth7> Audigy Soundblaster Live! 24bit
[01:17] <tristanmike> I have trouble reading the man pages
[01:17] <tristanmike> lol
[01:17] <tristanmike> thanx all
[01:17] <HrdwrBoB> !audigy
[01:17] <ubotu> audigy is, like, muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[01:17] <tgreen> sound work's fine on realplayer
[01:17] <Seveas> tristanmike, that specific one is quite clear
[01:17] <phreak_> Got a cannot exectue binary file error....
[01:17] <bzimage> kbrooks, yes +x is also a way.. (i prefer the number way..)
[01:17] <jimmyyyyyy> hi
[01:17] <kevogod> hey
[01:18] <bam_> whats the syntax for command line install?
[01:18] <discipleofyeshua> it seems like you can just use symtaptic package manager and direct it to your driver
[01:18] <HrdwrBoB> bam_: apt-get install packagename
[01:18] <jimmyyyyyy> so what's wrong with pasting in here?
[01:18] <bzimage> bam_, sudo apt-get install <package>
[01:18] <selinium> bam_, sudo apt-get install <application>
[01:18] <phreak_> Ubuntu wants to open a 250 met .run file with a txt editor....
[01:18] <bam_> local
[01:18] <Stricklin> xmms says it's playing an mp3, and my speakers are working for other things like alerts and such, but no music. Help?
[01:18] <kevogod> jimmyyyyyy, Don't paste multiple lines.
[01:18] <Seveas> jimmyyyyyy, it's very disruptive and simply bad netiquette
[01:18] <HrdwrBoB> jimmyyyyyy: it's irritating and not useful, just use pastebin
[01:18] <Seveas> just like shouting
[01:18] <bam_> say i have the file on desktop
[01:18] <bzimage> bam_, sudo dpkg -i blablab.deb
[01:18] <tristanmike> Seveas, thanx, I'm trying to get a hang of it still, sorry for the obvious questions
[01:18] <bam_> bingo, thanks
[01:19] <HrdwrBoB> Stricklin: check the output plugin of XMMS in it's preferences
[01:19] <HrdwrBoB> Stricklin: change it to 'esd'
[01:19] <jimmyyyyyy> Seveas: Seem familiar yet? i may have been here 1 min ago?
[01:19] <SuperSonix> Hi there
[01:19] <Seveas> jimmyyyyyy, yes, very, that's why i gave the remark about shouting
[01:19] <jimmyyyyyy> ok then
[01:20] <Stricklin> Audio I/O Plugins?
[01:20] <jimmyyyyyy> i'll add that to my already huge list of things i'll get flamed or banned for
[01:20] <jimmyyyyyy> or both
[01:20] <Trashcan> ...just don't shout, and don't paste
[01:20] <HrdwrBoB> Stricklin: yes, under output plugin
[01:20] <SuperSonix> I give up of Ubuntu coz u must be able to download many things !!! Why Ubuntu cant be on 4/5 CDs and we can just update it !?
[01:21] <Stricklin> There's an eSound output plugin, that it?
[01:21] <jimmyyyyyy> well how am i supposed to show my config files the proper way?
[01:21] <kbrooks> jimmyyyyyy, warning then ban (if you do things twice)
[01:21] <yawgmoth7> Well
[01:21] <Trashcan> http://www.pastebin.com
[01:21] <Seveas> jimmyyyyyy, see the topic
[01:21] <kbrooks> jimmyyyyyy, /topic
[01:21] <kbrooks> last item
[01:21] <Trashcan> http://www.rafb.net/paste
[01:21] <Trashcan> http://www.nomorepasting.com
[01:21] <jimmyyyyyy> kbrookes: i alread got banned that's the funny thing
[01:21] <kbrooks> Seveas, geez, people should read the topic...
[01:21] <Stricklin> SuperSonix, that works, thanks.
[01:21] <[drunk] logic> is there a tutorial anywhere on creating packages for apt-get?
[01:22] <yawgmoth7> So i couldnt find Audigy Analogue/Digital Out, so i just turned everything up..........and it still dosent seem to play sound
[01:22] <HrdwrBoB> yawgmoth7: you have to unmute it
[01:22] <jimmyyyyyy> sorry i only read topics when i'm just chatting for no reason
[01:22] <discipleofyeshua> SuperSOnix: do you know of a better linux operating system that comes with more disks?
[01:22] <yawgmoth7> It wasnt even there though
[01:22] <HrdwrBoB> in alsamixer use 'm'
[01:22] <Seveas> [drunk] logic, apt-get install maint-guide; firefox file:///usr/share/doc/maint-guide/
[01:22] <Trashcan> http://people.debian.org/~jaldhar/make_package1.html
[01:22] <[drunk] logic> thanks Seveas :)
[01:22] <Trashcan> I assume debian packages are similar enough to Ubuntu packages?
[01:22] <Seveas> Trashcan, yeah
[01:22] <nalioth> discipleofyeshua: if you want lots of disks. get debian there are about 14 discs, iirc
[01:23] <Seveas> it's all .deb
[01:23] <nalioth> Trashcan: not really
[01:23] <jimmyyyyyy> I really like that pastebin idea
[01:23] <SuperSonix> Stricklin: Slackware is just fine i think
[01:23] <jimmyyyyyy> thanks
[01:23] <boxerboy29> why would you want more cds ubuntu has 1 cd and has what 17000 packages that you can get from synaptic
[01:23] <ccooke> Trashcan: Same system. Ubuntu is based on debian.
[01:23] <Seveas> nalioth, the way they work is the same :)
[01:23] <qzerty> ... nalioth that isn't a fair statement
[01:23] <Trashcan> right, ccooke
[01:23] <Stricklin> SuperSonix, I don't understand your meaning
[01:23] <nalioth> Seveas: yes, but they break usssss
[01:23] <[drunk] logic> Seveas, i dont have that file :-/
[01:23] <Seveas> hehe, other way around too :)
[01:23] <discipleofyeshua> is it free?
[01:23] <DonL> I'd like to learn more about Aptitiude. Anybody know a good how-to?
[01:23] <Seveas> [drunk] logic, you'll have it after installing it
[01:23] <qzerty> nalioth: debian can be be installed fine with one cd, if you want the whole debian archive you will need 20, if you want the whole ubuntu archive your going to need more than one cd too
[01:24] <Seveas> 'sup d00d :)
[01:24] <ccooke> Trashcan: however, in many cases you can't use Debian packages on Ubuntu
[01:24] <cafuego_> far too much beer
[01:24] <Trashcan> I see..
[01:24] <discipleofyeshua> nalioth: is it free?
[01:24] <nalioth> qzerty: ubuntu isnt offered except on one disc officially
[01:24] <Seveas> cafuego, get to work :p
[01:24] <dfc> is there any chance that we could have an ubuntu-server package that was similar to ubuntu-base but tuned for a server? ie not depending on alsa?
[01:24] <nalioth> discipleofyeshua: yes
[01:24] <yawgmoth7> Ok, so i found something that was muted, and unmted it, there is no option to turn it up and its not named what
[01:24] <yawgmoth7> Its supposed to be
[01:24] <SuperSonix> Stricklin:There are users ( like me ) thet dont have active connections all the time. For me the best thing is to have all utilities, programs and stuff on the CDs
[01:24] <cafuego_> Yeah, maybe later
[01:24] <Seveas> SuperSonix, get the ubuntu DVD
[01:24] <yawgmoth7> But sound still dosetn play, so i think i have to compile the drivers mylself
[01:25] <yawgmoth7> self*
[01:25] <Stricklin> SuperSonix, ah, I see
[01:25] <kbrooks> Seveas, link
[01:25] <jackel> Firefox crashes everytime i try to view a embedded video or audio and i have all the plugins installed, Anyone know how to fix it? Im running on the 64 bit version
[01:25] <phreak_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2720 anyone know what to do with this?
[01:25] <Seveas> !mirror
[01:25] <ubotu> from memory, mirror is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:25] <HrdwrBoB> SuperSonix: the best thing is to get a permanent connection :)
[01:25] <HrdwrBoB> the *next* best thing is to have it all on DVD :)
[01:25] <kbrooks> Seveas, i got the imprerssion there was no ubuntu dvd
[01:25] <SuperSonix> HrdwrBoB: yes
[01:25] <Stricklin> I couldn't live without boradband
[01:25] <ccooke> Trashcan: basically, there are enough small differences - location of some files in the distro, some different choices about what's running etc - to make the larger or more complex packages break if you install them
[01:25] <Stricklin> broadband, rather
[01:25] <ccooke> Trashcan: okay?
[01:25] <SuperSonix> HrdwrBoB: but my procider cant offer thet :(
[01:25] <Seveas> phreak_, chmod +x armyops230-linux.run
[01:25] <Seveas> ./armyops230-linux.run
[01:25] <Trashcan> gotcha, ccooke
[01:25] <Enziet> ok so i just installed ubuntu for the first time and it didn't come with gcc or any of the stuff neccisary to compile and make files from source. Did i do something wrong?
[01:25] <HrdwrBoB> SuperSonix: and you can't change?
[01:25] <HrdwrBoB> that sucks
[01:25] <Seveas> Enziet, no
[01:26] <jonesy> hello all.
[01:26] <Seveas> the C compiler is not in the default set of packages
[01:26] <kbrooks> Enziet, apt-get install build-essential
[01:26] <Seveas> why should it...
[01:26] <ccooke> Trashcan: There's little need to use packages directly from Debian on Ubuntu, though
[01:26] <Seveas> follow kbrooks advice on how to install it
[01:26] <Stricklin> I've done without cable television, I've done without phone service, but I can't live without broadband Internet service.
[01:26] <Trashcan> ccooke: the question was about creating packages for use with ubuntu, in which case, it's the same format and should work properly?
[01:26] <Seveas> Stricklin, *g* I know the feeling ;)
[01:26] <Enziet> Seveas: ok
[01:26] <QMario> Stricklin, heh. :)
[01:26] <Seveas> Trashcan, absolutely
[01:26] <grgcsmc> i need to install gnome-sudoku_0.3.2-2_i386.deb
[01:26] <Trashcan> alright
[01:26] <Trashcan> thanks
[01:27] <SuperSonix> HrdwrBoB: i have to w8 better offer ( is very expensive to buy ADSL or something else )
[01:27] <ccooke> Trashcan: if you enable the universe and multiverse repositories in synaptic, you get access to all the packages in Debian (about 17,000) rebuilt for Ubuntu - so they'll all work.
[01:27] <kbrooks> Seveas, that doesnt make sense (on C compiler not in the package set). why isnt it in there?
[01:27] <QMario> Is kemik here?
[01:27] <grgcsmc> what is the line of code to install it?
[01:27] <Seveas> Trashcan, in fact, lots of packages in Ubuntu are simply apt-get source from debian and debuild :)
[01:27] <ccooke> Trashcan: ah, yes. You should have no trouble there.
[01:27] <phreak_> SuperSonix: arn't you in Canada?
[01:27] <Trashcan> hehe- nice
[01:27] <jackel> Firefox crashes everytime i try to view a embedded video or audio and i have all the plugins installed, Anyone know how to fix it? Im running on the 64 bit version
[01:27] <ccooke> Trashcan: debs are very easy to work with.
[01:27] <QMario> Hello Seveas!!! :)
[01:27] <Seveas> kbrooks, normal users don't need it
[01:27] <jimmyyyyyy> grgcsmcdpkg -i whatever.deb
[01:27] <jimmyyyyyy> grgcsmc: dpkg -i whatever.deb
[01:27] <Tortel> grgcsmc: sudo dpkg -i {package} if its in your home directory
[01:27] <phreak_> Jackel: i'm on the 64bit version too
[01:27] <Seveas> it's on the cd though, dead-easy to install
[01:27] <kbrooks> Seveas, ok
[01:27] <grgcsmc> ok
[01:27] <Tortel> :P
[01:27] <jackel> phreak, you having the same problem?
[01:27] <phreak_> Jackel: try this link http://fridge.ubuntu.com/files/jeff-waugh-on-la-update.ogg
[01:28] <Stricklin> Right now, I have no cable because I spend 4 nights a week in motel/hotel rooms, so paying $40 a month for something I watch less than 40 hours a month seems pointless.
[01:28] <phreak_> if that works tell me
[01:28] <boxerboy29> kbrooks: dvd is not offered for breezy but it is offered for hoary
[01:28] <QMario> I know I've asked this question several times, but how do I export the Java Classpath?
[01:28] <kbrooks> slow setupp ...
[01:28] <Seveas> QMario, export CLASSPATH=/path/part/1:/part/2:$CLASSPATH
[01:28] <jackel> phreak, all i hear is audio
[01:28] <sarkie> lo
[01:28] <phreak_> Jackel, thats all it is
[01:28] <phreak_> mine stops after a few seconds though
[01:28] <jackel> phreak, any idea why firefox is crashing then?
[01:29] <yawgmoth7> i cant compile the sound card drivers though............because it says it needs gcc 3.4, nad i have 4.0.2
[01:29] <QMario> Seveas, what does "part" represent?
[01:29] <yawgmoth7> And i tried installing the 3.4 package
[01:29] <oxez> yawgmoth7: apt-get install gcc-3.4
[01:29] <yawgmoth7> but it still cant find it
[01:29] <jackel> phreak, mine stops after a few seconds as well
[01:29] <phreak_> Jackel: I'm having stability problems with the 64 bit build (not as bad as windows 64 bit, thats like alpha grade buggy)
[01:29] <oxez> yawgmoth7: you can try: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 , then compile your thing
[01:29] <Seveas> yawgmoth7, apt-get intall gcc-3.4
[01:29] <jackel> phreak, so its not just me?
[01:29] <Seveas> export CC=gcc-3.4
[01:29] <phreak_> i'm thinking of downgradeing to a SMB kernel (are you running a athlon 64 X2 or just 64?
[01:29] <sarkie> hi im trying to get quake3 to work, and it says I need OSS i have the file but i cant seem to install it
[01:29] <grgcsmc> the code didnt work
[01:30] <grgcsmc> can some1 pm me?
[01:30] <D1> breezy here I come!
[01:30] <jackel> phreak, im running athlon 64 3000 venic
[01:30] <jared> hmmph
[01:30] <phreak_> Jackel: are you having problems installing packages, having dependecy issues?
[01:30] <Seveas> AlexMBas, turn off that script NOW
[01:30] <jackel> phreak, No, not really
[01:30] <phreak_> I think the 64 bit packages still arn't quite ready for mass usage, (although what works is fast)
[01:30] <Cashel> rehowdies... thanks for the help before qzerty
[01:30] <jared> the "install linux dc++ (the easy way)" thread is gone from ubuntuforums.org
[01:30] <jackel> phreak, i was able to install all my players just fine
[01:30] <grgcsmc> can some1 pm me?
[01:30] <phreak_> I cna't install KDE
[01:30] <jackel> phreak, and all my other programs and updates
[01:31] <Riddell> phreak_: what's the problem?
[01:31] <sarkie> woops
[01:31] <jackel> phreak, What about oepra?
[01:31] <jackel> opera*
[01:31] <phreak_> Evolution exchange is broken
[01:31] <phreak_> i uninstalled the package, and now i'm getting depenency issues trying to reinstall it
[01:31] <jackel> damn
[01:31] <Seveas> phreak_, then your sources.list is broken
[01:32] <natedogg> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame
[01:32] <natedogg> 
[01:32] <phreak_> hmmm, there is a clean one in the wiki isn't there?
[01:32] <tristanmike> I keep getting disconnected from my msn account when using Gaim, is this an issue others have?
[01:32] <natedogg> how do I fix this?
[01:32] <Seveas> natedogg, enable multiverse
[01:32] <natedogg> howso?
[01:32] <Seveas> tristanmike, msn is flaky today
[01:32] <tristanmike> and yesterday too?
[01:32] <sarkie> edit sources list natedogg
[01:32] <Seveas> !tell phreak_ about sources
[01:32] <sarkie> remove the #'s
[01:32] <Seveas> !tell natedogg about sources
[01:32] <natedogg> add multiverse to lines in sources.list?
[01:32] <jackel> phreak, is there an alternative to making the embedded videos work?
[01:33] <natedogg> what would the context be to add it?
[01:33] <sorush20> how do I add a ubuntu wiki page..
[01:33] <phreak_> Jackel, well KDE has some nice embedded video in Konquer
[01:34] <none_-> yes, konqueror plays embedded videos nicely
[01:34] <jackel> phreak, so i would have to switch over from Gnome?
[01:34] <phreak_> I can't install KDE, Seavas thinks my source are foobarred, but i can still install plenty of stuff, its just a selective problem
[01:34] <phreak_> well, not technicaly
[01:34] <Riddell> phreak_: what happens when you try to install KDE?
[01:34] <phreak_> Jackel: if you have em both installed you can run either (i belive you take a preformance hit)
[01:34] <jackel> phreak, can i just install konqueror or is there some tweaking?
[01:34] <jackel> phreak, oh
[01:35] <QMario> Seveas, Java still can't find my classes.
[01:35] <phreak_> Jackel: KDE is more media friendly in general
[01:35] <Seveas> QMario, then give it a compass and a map :)
[01:35] <nalioth> QMario: you used the sun java deb?
[01:35] <QMario> Seveas, good one. :)
[01:35] <QMario> Nalioth, yes.
[01:35] <Enziet> where does one get javac?
[01:35] <QMario> !Java
[01:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[01:36] <Cashel> jared, http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:QfkQNyKKAP0J:www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D40467%26goto%3Dnextoldest+linux+dc%2B%2B+the+easy+way&hl=en&client=firefox
[01:36] <jackel> phreak, so would be switching over to like Kubuntu be good or something like Mephis?
[01:36] <kennethlove> java = coffee, yo.
[01:36] <phreak_>  Depends: kdebase-kio-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[01:36] <phreak_>  Depends: konqueror but it is not going to be installed
[01:36] <nalioth> QMario: you dont have any of that nasssty gnu java installed, do you?
[01:36] <nalioth> phreak_: dont paste in here please
[01:36] <boxerboy29> phreak_: can you install the kubuntu-desktop from synaptic?
[01:37] <natedogg> I added the "multiverse" to the end of the last 2 lines in sources.list and it still did not work.
[01:37] <natedogg> any suggestoins?
[01:37] <boxerboy29> natedogg: did you apt-get update
[01:37] <natedogg> I have done it
[01:37] <QMario> Nalioth, no.
[01:37] <natedogg> but not since i added multiverse
[01:38] <boxerboy29> after changing sources lists u have to do that
[01:38] <jackel> phreak, would switching over to kubuntu be better since i am going to use linux mainly for media and web surfing?
[01:38] <boxerboy29> that way it updates the sources lists
[01:38] <yawgmoth7> Would anybody mind taking a look at the erros from when i use "make install" while compiling the soundcard driver(Its kinda long)
[01:38] <jackel> or someother KDE distro?
[01:38] <QMario> Nalioth, what should I do? ;)
[01:38] <PeerSoft>  I looked @ the info center on kubuntu.. and it says my modems an unknown device - but it does read it ;x
[01:39] <nalioth> QMario: not sure. i've assumed that the java deb makes all links necessary
[01:39] <Cashel> PeerSoft, make a /dev/modem symlink, worked for me when I had dialup
[01:39] <PeerSoft> how do i do that?
[01:39] <QMario> Nalioth, should I just re-install Java?
[01:39] <Cashel> PeerSoft, sudo  /dev/?!?!? /dev/modem   ?!?!? being the actual device
[01:39] <Cashel> errr
[01:40] <Cashel> PeerSoft, sudo ln -s /dev/?!?!? /dev/modem   ?!?!? being the actual device
[01:40] <QMario> PeerSoft, you could always ask in #KUBUNTU. :)
[01:40] <lightsource> Which version linux distro do I choose off of VLC's website to use for VLC?
[01:40] <erirlar> hi, how do i remove a folder in terminal?
[01:40] <jackel> If i use linux for media mainly should i stick with Gnome or move to KDE?
[01:40] <Cashel> damn insert key..
[01:40] <lightsource> Which version linux distro do I choose off of VLC's website to use for Ubuntu?
[01:40] <QMario> rm -r
[01:40] <Cashel> erirlar, rm -R /directory
[01:40] <PeerSoft> yea but.. they dont help me
[01:40] <PeerSoft> lol
[01:40] <erirlar> thanks
[01:40] <qzerty> lightsource: apt-get install vlc.
[01:40] <imterro> can anyone help, im having trouble playing video on ubuntu
[01:40] <QMario> Hello nick_!!! :)
[01:40] <Cashel> jack-, I dont see whats wrong w/ gnome for video...
[01:41] <Cashel> imterro, what kind of video?
[01:41] <natedogg> I updated
[01:41] <natedogg> and it still cannot find package
[01:41] <nalioth> lightsource: vlc is available using apt-get
[01:41] <Kirsch> yo guys, so Breezy isn't ready yet for 64bit? it broke my friends machine
[01:41] <Kirsch> it won't start GDM and the network cards are down
[01:41] <lightsource> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[01:41] <Kirsch> Hoary was working fine
[01:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lightsource about sources
[01:41] <boxerboy29> kirsch: breezy isnt ready for anything until the 13th
[01:41] <boxerboy29> in the sence that it is beta still
[01:41] <phreak_> Cashel: Badger for 64 has some video issues
[01:41] <nalioth> lightsource: you need to get all the repos enabled to have the most fun
[01:42] <Cashel> am I going to have to reinstall on the 13th or will updates work ok?
[01:42] <Enziet> how do i get the fakeroot command to work
[01:42] <oxez> Okay I tried many things, but I still can't ping '192.168.1.116' computer on my ubuntu box. I went on that computer, opened a ssh to my box and tried it, it worked! But when I'm in  front of the screen, with gnome-terminal for example it doesn't work. That's pretty weird.. any ideas?
[01:42] <boxerboy29> natedogg: what package and where are you looking?
[01:42] <QMario> Nalioth, should I install the java2-common package?
[01:42] <imterro> Cashel, umm .avi pretty much anything i download
[01:42] <nalioth> Cashel: you'll never have to "resinstall" again
[01:42] <phreak_> i'm runnning 64 bit, its 10 times more stable than Windows 64, but still isn't quite where it needs to be
[01:42] <PeerSoft> so i do subo ln -s dev/<whatever the info center says my modem is>/modem ?
[01:42] <natedogg> I am looking for gstreamer0.8-lame
[01:42] <nalioth> QMario: i have found that having gnu java and the sun one confuses the system.
[01:43] <natedogg> .gstreamer0.8-lame is the mp3 codec correct
[01:43] <nalioth> natedogg: -mad is the one you seek
[01:43] <QMario> Nalioth, so should I remove the java-common package?
[01:44] <natedogg> oh mad
[01:44] <nalioth> QMario: as i pointed out. i find that the gnu stuff confuses the sun
[01:44] <boxerboy29> natedogg: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame
[01:44] <Cashel> natedogg, its in the breezy repositories it looks like
[01:44] <nalioth> QMario: try removing all your gnu java stuff and reinstalling the sun deb
[01:44] <QMario> Nalioth, what about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions?
[01:44] <natedogg> I tried that boxer
[01:44] <boxerboy29> it should install 2 packages
[01:44] <kbrooks> brb.
[01:44] <natedogg> it says
[01:44] <natedogg> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame
[01:45] <mister_roboto> nalioth: what are the gnu java packages? is there a single package name you can remove?
[01:45] <Cashel> natedogg, go into synaptic and make sure you have all the repositories on, multiverse universe, etc
[01:45] <concept10> Is the mozilla-mplayer plugin not avail or packaged for breezy?
[01:45] <QMario> Nalioth, I don't want to argue with you, but the website says to install the java-common package. :'(
[01:45] <natedogg> cashel: how di i get to synaptic
[01:45] <nalioth> QMario: the debs referenced in ubotu are the same
[01:45] <imterro> i searched the guide but when i try to download the packages they tell me to... i cant because it tells me that the package is missing
[01:45] <none_-> concept10, it's there but not called that
[01:45] <boxerboy29> natedogg: you have breezy? and what repos do you have set?
[01:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell natedogg about synaptic
[01:45] <Yawgmoth7> it doset make any sense that the make file would have nothing but errors
[01:45] <Cashel> natedogg, you have a working X windows?
[01:45] <concept10> none_-, called?
[01:45] <QMario> Nalioth, debs?
[01:45] <natedogg> I don't know, i'm using GNOME
[01:46] <boxerboy29> gnome=xwindow
[01:46] <Cashel> natedogg, good, go System > Administration > Syanptic
[01:46] <natedogg> ah, thanks
[01:46] <nalioth> QMario: if you're building the package
[01:46] <none_-> concept10, i take that back.. the name is the same
[01:46] <none_-> and it's there
[01:46] <nalioth> natedogg: ubotu sent you a msg
[01:46] <QMario> Nalioth, so I should delete it.
[01:46] <imterro> is anyone wlling to help?
[01:46] <QMario> ?
[01:46] <natedogg> ok
[01:46] <natedogg> i'm in synaptic
[01:46] <concept10> none_-, the deps are missing, what repo are you getting it from?
[01:47] <nalioth> QMario: try removing all your java, then reinstalling the sun deb
[01:47] <QMario> Here I go.
[01:47] <imterro> the .za one?
[01:47] <boxerboy29> search for gstreamer0.8-lame
[01:47] <imterro> il make sure now
[01:47] <none_-> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse
[01:47] <Cashel> natedogg, Settings > Repositories
[01:47] <vitriol> if i need to do 'hdparm -d1 -X34 /dev/hdc' is there an init script for such a thing?
[01:47] <concept10> none_-, sorry, I found it
[01:47] <imterro> http://za.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:47] <none_-> :)
[01:47] <imterro> none_-, i tried doing that
[01:47] <vitriol> i want that command run everytime i boot, basically
[01:47] <D1> /etc/hdparm.conf I believe
[01:47] <vitriol> thank you
[01:47] <Yawgmoth7> It has to be something that im doing wrong, because ive compiled this sound driver before, but when i run sudo make install it comes up with almost every sings line a error
[01:47] <Cashel> natedogg, if your not worried about open source, etc, go ahead and Add for everything
[01:48] <none_-> imterro, it works fine for me. try apt-get update
[01:48] <natedogg> ok in respitories
[01:48] <imterro> hmm i think its because im using the .za and you are usin the .us
[01:48] <concept10> vitriol, -X34 means?  im curious
[01:48] <QMario> Nalioth, so I should also delete the java-package package, right?
[01:48] <natedogg> is there a way to d them all at once
[01:48] <natedogg> add
[01:48] <none_-> imterro, i'm not sure which is the master server
[01:48] <QMario> Ubotu, apt-search java-package.
[01:48] <ubotu> QMario: Are you smoking crack?
[01:48] <phreak_> wow, i just ran vncviewer on myself
[01:49] <QMario> !search
[01:49] <ubotu> I heard search is System>Administration>Synaptic, has a search function. Command line are apt-cache search "packagename", or aptitude search "packagename"
[01:49] <nalioth> QMario: you can always add it back later, if you desire
[01:49] <vitriol> concept10: i don't remember.... i just know that this is what 'xine-check' suggested for my dvds to run at a reasonable speed
[01:49] <jimmyyyyyyyy> QMario check the ubuntuguide
[01:49] <dozer> anyone know how to view mpeg files in ubuntu?  I have searched and tried everything i could find so far
[01:49] <QMario> !Ubuntuguide
[01:49] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:49] <sorush20> how do I start the k personalize
[01:49] <concept10> vitriol, thanks, i need to add that too...
[01:49] <imterro> E: Package totem-xine has no installation candidate
[01:49] <jimmyyyyyyyy> dozer: try mplayer or vlc or xione
[01:49] <natedogg> I click the thing then click add
[01:49] <boxerboy29> natedogg: do you see check marks to left of repos?
[01:49] <ObsidianX> whats the ubuntu package for the JRE/JDK
[01:49] <jimmyyyyyyyy> dozer: try mplayer or vlc or xine
[01:49] <natedogg> it shows a popup
[01:50] <Cashel> natedogg, once you have multiverse and universe turned on for each repository (or add repositories you dont have) it will reload them, you should be able to find gstreamer in there or just got the apt-get install bit again...
[01:50] <QMario> Jimmyyyyyyyy, the reason why I don't check the ubuntuguide. ;)
[01:50] <natedogg> ok cool
[01:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ObsidianX about javadeb
[01:50] <nalioth> ObsidianX: ubotu has sent you a msg
[01:50] <jimmyyyyyyyy> QMario: I did it and it didn't break my box yet :D
[01:50] <lancellor> hey guys how do i make gdesklets to start when the computer starts???
[01:50] <ObsidianX> nalioth: thanks
[01:50] <kbrooks> gRRR.
[01:50] <nalioth> lancellor: system > prefs > sessions
[01:50] <kbrooks> Grrrr. *
[01:51] <kbrooks> nalioth: are you there?
[01:51] <jimmyyyyyyyy> QMario: I actually find it a quite usefull resource to complete noobs
[01:51] <nalioth> kbrooks: we imitating different life-forms?
[01:51] <jimmyyyyyyyy> QMario: Or people who are looking for extra apt repos
[01:51] <kbrooks> nalioth: finally. long time no see
[01:51] <nalioth> jimmyyyyyyyy: it may seem like a great resource. until it kills off your box
[01:51] <lancellor> letme try
[01:51] <QMario> Jimmyyyyyyyy, hee.
[01:51] <dozer> anyone know when the new ubuntu is coming out?
[01:51] <natedogg> IT wont let me click the universe/mulitverse for osme of them
[01:51] <phreak_> Cashel: I can't install anything for KDE, wine, or re-install evolution, apt is seriously foobared on 64bit
[01:51] <nalioth> kbrooks: i've spoken to you lately
[01:51] <Enziet> is there a standard dc++ client that i can use apt-get to find
[01:51] <Cashel> dozer, the 13th
[01:51] <kbrooks> dozer, october 13
[01:52] <kbrooks> nalioth, yes, i know. i'm back from arch. ;)
[01:52] <jimmyyyyyyyy> nalioth and QMario: I'd love to see it kill a box!
[01:52] <Cashel> phreak_, dunno dude, dont have a 64 bit machine...
[01:52] <nalioth> jimmyyyyyyyy: then use it exclusively for all your answers
[01:52] <X3N_> phreak_, works find here
[01:52] <dozer> nice thanks for all the info - so far ubuntu is the best linux distro I have used  they even sent me 10 cd's of it in the mail free of charge. suck on that fedora
[01:52] <jimmyyyyyyyy> nalioth and QMario: All i use it for is apt repos
[01:52] <boxerboy29> natedogg: click settings and click the empty boxes in settings
[01:52] <butterfly_> is there a way to find out who's logged into a system if I ssh in as root?
[01:52] <cafuego_> phreak_: Seems to all work fine here. Well, not KDE, but apt.
[01:52] <nalioth> jimmyyyyyyyy: then you wont wait long
[01:52] <kbrooks> on hoary atm
[01:52] <DapperDrake> butterfly_: whois or w
[01:52] <DapperDrake> who or w I mean
[01:53] <cafuego_> butterfly_: Of course. 'w'.
[01:53] <cafuego_> butterfly_: ot 'users'
[01:53] <phreak_> i keep getting "depends, but not going to be installed", it can't resolve any dependencies
[01:53] <jimmyyyyyyyy> nalioth and QMario: what questions in there will kill your box, other then the "HOWTO rm -r /*"
[01:53] <butterfly_> LOL nm .. I just realized what I wanted to ask but what I asked instead <smack head on the desk>
[01:53] <cafuego_> Though if a users runs 'screen' he can remove himself from those lists.
[01:53] <butterfly_> thank u :)
[01:53] <phreak_> if someone wants to VNC my box their welcome too :)
[01:53] <X3N_> what version of ubuntu are you using phreak_
[01:53] <nalioth> jimmyyyyyyyy: the apt resources will bring your box to a grinding halt
[01:53] <phreak_> Badger i belive
[01:54] <Cashel> natedogg, got it now?
[01:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jimmyyyyyyyy about sources
[01:54] <jimmyyyyyyyy> nalioth:backports will
[01:54] <phreak_> nope, hedgehog
[01:54] <phreak_> hmmmm, maybe thats it
[01:54] <cafuego_> phreak_: You on breezy/ yeah, it's not stable, so that happens. Put up with it until it's released.
[01:54] <nalioth> jimmyyyyyyyy: those sources are the ones you should have
[01:54] <QMario> Hello Cafuego_!!! :)
[01:54] <phreak_> 5.04
[01:54] <nalioth> jimmyyyyyyyy: backports are official now. mirrormax should not be used
[01:54] <jackel> crappy firefox
[01:54] <X3N_> oh
[01:54] <cafuego_> phreak_: Ah, got hoary-extras enabled?
[01:54] <Cashel> have fun folks
[01:54] <Seveas> nalioth, mirrormax cannot be used anymore
[01:54] <kennethlove> what's unstable about breezy? used it for a week here with no problems.
[01:54] <cafuego_> phreak_: and hoary-backports?
[01:55] <Seveas> it's removed :)
[01:55] <kbrooks> I wonder why x.0 releases are usually not stable?
[01:55] <QMario> Nalioth, okay. I re-installed Java, but it still can't find my archives. :'(
[01:55] <jimmyyyyyyyy> thanks for telling me that i was noticing mirrormax was down a lot
[01:55] <phreak_> Universe, and multiverse
[01:55] <X3N_> you may need multiverse as well phreak_
[01:55] <jimmyyyyyyyy> nalioth thanks for telling me that i was noticing mirrormax was down a lot
[01:55] <nalioth> Seveas: yes, that's what i said
[01:55] <cafuego_> kennethlove: Various things, broken depeneds, beagle seems completely busted.
[01:55] <phreak_> and Wine's depo
[01:55] <nalioth> jimmyyyyyyyy: there are other things there that are not desirable
[01:55] <kennethlove> cafuego_: i haven't noticed any problems with depends or beagle.
[01:55] <cafuego_> phreak_: Disable all non-official ones, then try to update again.
[01:55] <cafuego_> kennethlove: I have.
[01:55] <cef> anyone installed breezy direct from cd/net on a blank partition? do you have a file called /etc/debian_version on your system?
[01:55] <jimmyyyyyyyy> nalioth: example...?
[01:55] <nalioth> jimmyyyyyyyy: make your sources official and hope it's not too late
[01:56] <cafuego_> Unhandled Exception: System.DllNotFoundException: glibsharpglue
[01:56] <kennethlove> cafuego_: did you upgrade or clean install?
[01:56] <natedogg> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:56] <natedogg> thats what i get
[01:56] <tonkar> do you recommend me some antivirus for my ubuntu?
[01:56] <natedogg> when i try to install
[01:56] <kbrooks> natedogg, another program.
[01:56] <natedogg> eh?
[01:56] <tonkar> or it is not necesary?
[01:56] <cafuego_> kennethlove: I've been on breezy for _months_.
[01:56] <kbrooks> natedogg, run lsof apt-get
[01:56] <nalioth> tonkar: why? there are no known viruses
[01:56] <qzerty> then some other program is using libapt too
[01:56] <gorilla> tonkar, it's not neccessary :-)
[01:56] <_jason> Is there anyway to communicate with other useres ssh'd into the same box?
[01:56] <kennethlove> tonkar: a good firewall setup and don't open any stupid emails.
[01:56] <natedogg> woot think its working!
[01:56] <natedogg> its reading the database
[01:57] <phreak_> Cafuego: still getting the same errors
[01:57] <kennethlove> cafuego_: well aren't you special. :)
[01:57] <X3N_> ubuntu breezy won't install on 64mb of ram will it ?
[01:57] <cafuego_> kennethlove: You'd be amazed.
[01:57] <qzerty> X3N_: no.
[01:57] <cafuego_> X3N_: Yes it will, but you don't want to it to run Gnome. Do a 'server' install, then add X later.
[01:57] <gorilla> kennethlove, even if you do what's going to happen? not much in my opionion.
[01:57] <nalioth> tonkar: firewalls are unnecessary in default ubuntu. and read all the mail you like
[01:57] <X3N_> i was considering that
[01:57] <X3N_> cafuego, you tried this then ?
[01:57] <kennethlove> gorilla: yeah, but best to be smart from the get-go. :) then you're safe no matter what system you're on.
[01:57] <jimmyyyyyyyy> nalioth: I don't care if my repo's are official, as long as they have the packages I want (even if they're trojan ridden :D)
[01:57] <cafuego_> X3N_: Something like fluxbox or openbox will run fine.
[01:58] <balrog-kun> how would you run telnetd on ubuntu?
[01:58] <gorilla> _jason, try wall :-)
[01:58] <jackel> why does firefox suck so bad at playing embedded video?
[01:58] <kbrooks> jimmyyyyyyyy, You don't care?!/?
[01:58] <tonkar> ok .... tnaks
[01:58] <jimmyyyyyyyy> kbooks: note the :D
[01:58] <jimmyyyyyyyy> kbrooks: note the :D
[01:58] <X3N_> jackel, because embedded stuff is 3rd party and nothing to do with them really
[01:58] <phreak_> Cauego, you want to VNC, and look at it real fast?
[01:58] <nalioth> jimmyyyyyyyy: trojans are not the problem. you will soon be against an upgrade wall, and won't be able to return.  reinstallation will have to take place
[01:58] <concept10> Is there a evince plugin for mozilla/firefox?
[01:58] <cafuego_> X3N_: I tried running GNome in 128MB ram ... ouchies.
[01:58] <jackel> X3N, firefox crashes when trying to display them though
[01:59] <jimmyyyyyyyy> nalioth: I was just kidding I was using trojan ridden as an example
[01:59] <kbrooks> nalioth, am i on ignore?
[01:59] <lightsource> how do I install all the plugins I.E. Flash, Quicktime??
[01:59] <jimmyyyyyyyy> nalioth: I've slammed the upgrade wall a few times not
[01:59] <jimmyyyyyyyy> nalioth: now
[01:59] <kbrooks> nalioth, why arent you talking to me? ;)
[01:59] <X3N_> jackel, probably because the plugins are written baddly then
[01:59] <lightsource> How do I install all the plugins I.E. Flash, Quicktime For Mozilla Firefox??
[01:59] <nalioth> kbrooks: nope, just lost in the colors
[01:59] <kbrooks> nalioth, what is a "upgrade wall"?
[01:59] <jackel> X3N, hmm then how would i be able to view them then?
[01:59] <phreak_> o well, i'm going to install the 32bit and see if it will fix a lota this :)
[01:59] <kbrooks> lightsource, you don't want quicktime
[01:59] <cafuego_> nalioth has been taking Quaaludes again, he's seeing colours everywhere.
[02:00] <lightsource> #kbroos
[02:00] <lightsource> oops
[02:00] <jimmyyyyyyyy> nalioth: A point where you can't upgrade because all your packages are different confilicting version
[02:00] <shivi> I need help with dvd playback. After installing and upgrading ubuntu none have worked, can't even run mpeg file
[02:00] <nalioth> kbrooks: it's where you cant upgrade b/c you use non official repos and the pkgs are so different
[02:00] <lightsource> kbrooks: I wanted it to see certian things on the ineternet
[02:00] <_jason> gorilla:  thanks
[02:00] <kbrooks> nalioth, versions?
[02:00] <oxez> appears my ubuntu machine doesnt detect the other computers on the network.. I turned off all the firewalls, and all my computers have the same workgroup. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong again?
[02:00] <Enziet> where is the bzlib devel package?
[02:00] <jimmyyyyyyyy> right now it's impossible to upgrade "mozilla-firefox"
[02:00] <X3N_> jackel, what kind of file format is it trying to play ?
[02:01] <phreak_> oxez, my netowkr browser isn't working either
[02:01] <silent_scream> hi to all
[02:01] <nalioth> kbrooks: if you use nonofficial repos, no thought is put into ubuntu upgrade compatibility
[02:01] <cafuego_> Enziet: Do you know how the search function in synaptic works?
[02:01] <jackel> X3N, any kind of embedded file
[02:01] <oxez> phreak_: ok. I badly need to fix this to be able to print my source codes for college
[02:01] <jackel> X3N, I have all the plugins installed as well
[02:01] <oxez> phreak_: if I fix this I'll let you know
[02:01] <jimmyyyyyyyy> nalioth: where's the list of official repos?
[02:01] <Enziet> cafuego_: no
[02:02] <silent_scream> does everyone know about eagle usb project? i have aprob
[02:02] <nalioth> jimmyyyyyyyy: ubotu sent you a PM
[02:02] <X3N_> most videos i just go to the page source, find the actual file location . e.g http://blablabla.com/blabla.wmv and play it in something like mplayer or gxine or vlc
[02:02] <shivi> how do i get
[02:02] <shivi> libdvdcss2
[02:02] <jimmyyyyyyyy> nalioth: I told him STFU :D
[02:02] <natedogg> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908) breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/ap
[02:02] <natedogg> what's that mean
[02:02] <shivi> what repository for libdvdcss2?
[02:03] <cafuego_> Enziet: Start synaptic, click 'search' and put in 'libbz'
[02:03] <jackel> X3N, no error just all the windows close
[02:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jimmyyyyyyyy about sources
[02:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shivi about dvd
[02:03] <jimmyyyyyyyy> ubot: tell ubot to STFU
[02:03] <natedogg> anyone?
[02:03] <X3N_> doh partioner is segfaulting now
[02:03] <kbrooks> jimmyyyyyyyy, that kind of language is not tolerated in here.
[02:04] <nalioth> jimmyyyyyyyy: yes, be civil please. the bot is a very good info source
[02:04] <_jason> natedogg:  I think i got something similar in Hoary and I jsut removed cdrom from my repo list in Synaptic... don't know if your prob is the same
[02:04] <jimmyyyyyyyy> kbrooks: are you a mod: If you are, ok i'll be good. If not: STFU
[02:04] <jimmyyyyyyyy> :D
[02:04] <kbrooks> uh oh.
[02:04] <cafuego_> jimmyyyyyyyy: Last warning.
[02:04] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[02:05] <Lord_Maynoth> hey jimmy
[02:05] <Lord_Maynoth> wanna get banned
[02:05] <Lord_Maynoth> say you like autopackage
[02:05] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[02:05] <silent_scream> does everyone know about eagle usb project? i have a prob with my sagem fast 800 adsl modem
[02:05] <yawgmoth7> After following: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21097.html
[02:05] <jimmyyyyyyyy> cafuego: i've been banned 10 mins prior to this
[02:05] <kbrooks> Lord_Maynoth, dont scare him away
[02:05] <yawgmoth7> I did that
[02:05] <yawgmoth7> then rebooted
[02:05] <nalioth> jimmyyyyyyyy: weren't you shown the door earlier for something?
[02:05] <yawgmoth7> And tyoed
[02:05] <yawgmoth7> typed*
[02:05] <yawgmoth7> alsamixer
[02:05] <jimmyyyyyyyy> cafuego_: yes i was
[02:05] <yawgmoth7> And got this error
[02:05] <jimmyyyyyyyy> cafuego_: now it's something different
[02:05] <cafuego_> jimmyyyyyyyy: You telling me you're just here to troll, then? Any reason you need to not be banned for good?
[02:05] <yawgmoth7> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[02:05] <Stricklin> How do I ensure Thunderbird is my default mail program?
[02:06] <jimmyyyyyyyy> cafuego_: I was banned for good :D
[02:06] <cafuego_> !ops
[02:06] <ubotu> well, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[02:06] <nalioth> Stricklin: system > prefs > preferred apps
[02:06] <jimmyyyyyyyy> cafuego_: I changed my nick and used my dynamic ip
[02:06] <cafuego_> jimmy is evading a ban.
[02:06] <jimmyyyyyyyy> cafuego_: Tada
[02:06] <phreak_> wow, it a script kiddie who can change mac adresses and change IP's, he's a special one....
[02:06] <Lord_Maynoth> the fastest way to get banned in here is to say you like autopackage... go for it jimmy
[02:06] <kbrooks> Lord_Maynoth, not true
[02:06] <Lord_Maynoth> lol
[02:06] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah
[02:06] <Stricklin> nalioth, thanks
[02:06] <Lord_Maynoth> im sure there are faster ways
[02:06] <kbrooks> Lord_Maynoth, i repeat, its not true
[02:06] <scribbles> what would make my sources.list go read only when before I was able to edi tit?
[02:06] <phreak_> whats autopackage (hides under rock)
[02:07] <nalioth> scribbles: open it using sudo
[02:07] <cafuego_> Lord_Maynoth: Yes, saying you like Gentoo will unleach a tactical nuclear strike. Also nice.
[02:07] <duri> hello, I installed ubuntu on an old PIII with an Intel L440GX+ mobo, I get only 800x600 . what is the equivalent of Xfree86Config on ubuntu with X.org ?
[02:07] <Lord_Maynoth> absolutely true
[02:07] <Lord_Maynoth> kbrooks
[02:07] <Lord_Maynoth> give it shot
[02:07] <scribbles> hah nalioth: thx a lot man
[02:07] <kbrooks> Lord_Maynoth, i dont believe you.
[02:07] <cafuego_> !tell duri -about fixres
[02:07] <yawgmoth7> What do you think is happening when it says: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[02:07] <Lord_Maynoth> i dont give a $%^*
[02:07] <lightsource> How do I install all the plugins I.E. Flash, Quicktime For Mozilla Firefox??
[02:07] <Lord_Maynoth> if you dont
[02:07] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[02:07] <kbrooks> !ops
[02:07] <ubotu> ops is, like, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[02:08] <nalioth> kbrooks: yes?
[02:08] <duri> thank ubotu
[02:08] <augusto> hello
[02:08] <kbrooks> nalioth, Look above at Lord_Maynoth hiding curse words and generally trolling
[02:08] <jimmyyya> actually my router can spoof mac addys if you want
[02:08] <Rylie> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:08] <augusto> hola alguien que hable castellano porfavor?
[02:09] <lightsource> How do I install all the plugins I.E. Flash, Quicktime For Mozilla Firefox??
[02:09] <Kyral> augusto, #ubuntu-es
[02:09] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[02:09] <cafuego_> jimmyyya: Will you be happy when you whole ISP is banned from the channel?
[02:09] <phreak_> ohhh, wow, jimmy, you do realize that you can change it in the registry if your truely 1337
[02:09] <kbrooks> jimmyyya, that is illegal and is electronic trespassing
[02:09] <augusto> #ubuntu-es
[02:09] <Kyral> si
[02:09] <phreak_> Send an email to his about admin for his isp
[02:10] <phreak_> not used to seeing a Canadian troll....
[02:10] <Lord_Maynoth> kbrooks... how old are you... you remind me of a 5 year old taddle tale  you are doing more to egg on the trolling than anyone else here
[02:10] <yawgmoth7> Canadians fail
[02:10] <tristanmike> ok, since msn is so flakey, is there anyway I can add my contacts from msn to any other protocol?
[02:10] <Kyral> chimata! Flamewar incoming!
[02:10] <jimmyyya> ok well sorry i sent this channell into flames
[02:10] <kbrooks> Lord_Maynoth, i refuse to reveal my age with such your attitude.
[02:11] <Lord_Maynoth> aha
[02:11] <Lord_Maynoth> that explains it
[02:11] <silent_scream> does everyone know about eagle usb project? i have a prob with my sagem fast 800 adsl modem...
[02:11] <Kyral> Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM
[02:11] <benplaut> or, better yet, just drop it
[02:11] <Kyral> now We don't need this in here. Who agrees with me!
[02:11] <benplaut> mua!
[02:11] <shep> so, is this ubuntu better than my windowsME?
[02:11] <Lord_Maynoth> YES
[02:11] <jimmyyya> everyone: I'll drop it if you drop it
[02:12] <Lord_Maynoth> lol me is horrible
[02:12] <benplaut> everyone has dropped it
[02:12] <Lord_Maynoth> windows ME
[02:12] <Kyral> shep, ANYTHING is better than WindowsMe (also known as Windows Hell)
[02:12] <Lord_Maynoth> that is
[02:12] <shep> i was kidding
[02:12] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[02:12] <jimmyyya> everyone: And please nothing to my isp :D
[02:12] <shep> i came in hoping for some entertainment
[02:12] <shep> i heard a flame war was starting
[02:12] <benplaut> shep: kinda
[02:12] <jimmyyya> shep: it was
[02:12] <nalioth> shep: yes in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:12] <jimmyyya> shep: I started it
[02:12] <jimmyyya> shep: :D
[02:12] <Lord_Maynoth> only because of the 5 year old taddle tales who like to egg on flames
[02:13] <Lord_Maynoth> *rolls eyes*
[02:13] <tristanmike> can I please get some help with gaim
[02:13] <Kyral> Jeez, Lord_Maynoth cut it out
[02:13] <nalioth> Lord_Maynoth: jimmyyya Kyral kbrooks y'all take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:13] <jimmyyya> Ok Lord_Maynoth just drop it!
[02:13] <Kyral> ja ja nalioth
[02:13] <Kyral> sorry
[02:13] <factotum> is it normal to have to reinstall nvidia drivers every kernel update? Every time i get an update that has to do with the kernel I have to go into my xorg.config and change "nvidia" to "nv" to get x to load until I reinstall the nvidia drivers
[02:13] <Kyral> Was just trying to crowd control w/o going BOFH on people
[02:14] <Kyral> factotum, if you are using Breezy, yes
[02:14] <factotum> nope, hoary
[02:14] <Kyral> when the hell is the nvidia-glx package gonna get fixed
[02:14] <Kyral> eh? Then I dunno
[02:14] <cafuego_> factotum: No, it should not revert back to 'nv'.
[02:14] <deflux-> Anyone here familiar with the ubuntu ppc port?
[02:14] <kbrooks> nalioth, i'm dropping it now
[02:14] <jimmyyya> kbrooks: would you seriously send an email to my isp?
[02:14] <cafuego_> deflux-: yep
[02:14] <nalioth> deflux-: yes we run ppc here
[02:14] <deflux-> Trying to figure out how to configure the new world boot partition to list my MacOS X as an OS choice.
[02:14] <Kyral> unless you compiled it from scratch
[02:14] <factotum> it doesnt revert back to "nv" I have to do it myself to get x to load
[02:14] <deflux-> It only listed CD-ROM and Ubuntu after install.
[02:15] <nalioth> jimmyyya: kbrooks y'all discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:15] <Kyral> and didn't use the nvidia-glx package
[02:15] <deflux-> but my mac os x partition is still there and loaded with os x.
[02:15] <lightsource> Where do I get themes for Ubuntu 5.04
[02:15] <pulver> hey! how do you change the wm in gnome?
[02:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell deflux- about sources
[02:15] <jimmyyya> ok... I'll use pm...
[02:15] <kbrooks> jimmyyya, I don't take pms. sorry.
[02:15] <cafuego_> deflux-: add a line saying 'macosx=/dev/hda3' in /etc/yaboot.conf
[02:16] <cafuego_> deflux-: where hda3 is your OSX partition. Then run 'ybin'.
[02:16] <jimmyyya> kbooks: that threat was the most effective on me actually :D
[02:16] <deflux-> cafuego: Thanks.  Do I run fdisk for a list of partitions or is there a diff tool for ppc platforms?
[02:16] <Babbage> I have a possibly kernel-related problem.  If I boot linux-image-2.6.10-5-386, everything is OK.  If I boot linux-image-2.6.11-1-386, everything hangs in X.  I have an IBM Thinkpad T43p.  Any ideas/suggestions?
[02:16] <shivi> what is the URL for extras as backports are not working
[02:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shivi about backports
[02:17] <gorilla> deflux-, no... you run fdisk on the physical drive.. fidks /dev/hda for exmaple
[02:17] <nalioth> deflux-: that's "sudo ybin"
[02:17] <jimmyyya> what else can ubotu do?
[02:18] <kbrooks> fdisk -l
[02:18] <kbrooks> is the correct way.
[02:18] <Babbage> gorilla, deflux- : specifically "fdisk -l",
[02:18] <deflux-> looks good.
[02:18] <deflux-> :)
[02:18] <deflux-> Thanks....ubuntu is probably the linux distro I can live with.  :)
[02:18] <deflux-> And I'm a FreeBSD user.  Har.
[02:19] <PassionLim> wow. :)
[02:19] <jimmyyya> nalioth: what else can ubotu do?
[02:19] <Lord_Maynoth> xandros is not so bad either
[02:19] <nalioth> jimmyyya: ask him
[02:19] <Lord_Maynoth> I wish ubuntu automounted windows drives by default
[02:19] <deflux-> time to check my dual-boot.
[02:19] <Lord_Maynoth> like xandros
[02:19] <jimmyyya> ubotu: can you do any tricks :D
[02:19] <ubotu> jimmyyya: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Lord_Maynoth about windowsdrives
[02:20] <jimmyyya> ubotu: jump up and down and rollover
[02:20] <ubotu> jimmyyya: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:20] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah but by default
[02:20] <PassionLim> When i write academic paper, what program in ubuntu is useful for me?
[02:20] <Lord_Maynoth> you can do anything with ubuntu
[02:20] <jimmyyya> ubotu: how did you know?
[02:20] <ubotu> jimmyyya: Not a clue
[02:20] <Lord_Maynoth> but it takes 5 hours of research to find out how
[02:20] <jimmyyya> ubotu: help
[02:20] <Seveas> PassionLim, vim+pdflatex
[02:20] <Lord_Maynoth> ;)
[02:20] <PassionLim> I'm just using OpenOffice.
[02:21] <lightsource> Does anyone here know how to change the icon for a folder and make ALL of them look the same?
[02:21] <UBUET> how i find  my ntfs drives from ubuntu
[02:21] <jimmyyya> ubotu: slashdot
[02:21] <Seveas> UBUET, breezy or hoary?
[02:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell UBUET about ntfs
[02:21] <gorilla> PassionLim, laTex is not word processing.. . wordprocessors drives me nuts after about 70 pages.
[02:21] <Lord_Maynoth> sooo
[02:21] <jimmyyya> ubotu: tell me about irc
[02:21] <Lord_Maynoth> I have an interesting topic
[02:22] <Lord_Maynoth> about how microsoft plans to kill linux
[02:22] <kbrooks> Go on, Lord_Maynoth.
[02:22] <Seveas> jimmy_, do not play with the bot
[02:22] <Seveas> jimmyyya*
[02:22] <kbrooks> Uh-oh.
[02:22] <nalioth> Lord_Maynoth: in #ubuntu-offtopic please with your stories
[02:22] <Lord_Maynoth> by ingegrating trusted computing modules into every pc motherboard
[02:22] <jimmyyya> sorry
[02:22] <Lord_Maynoth> guess i cant talk about that in here
[02:22] <Lord_Maynoth> sry
[02:22] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, -> #ubuntu-offtopic, or better #FUD
[02:22] <PassionLim> Ok.. I'd better read the manual of laTex :)
[02:22] <kbrooks> nalioth, it's half true. Microsoft doesnt plan to kill Linux by doing that.
[02:23] <gorilla> Lord_Maynoth, yep that has been discussed.. but take it to ubuntu-offtopic :-)
[02:23] <Lord_Maynoth> all ready did
[02:23] <PassionLim> Can you recommend useful site to study laTex?
[02:23] <kbrooks> now to talk ubuntu.
[02:23] <Seveas> PassionLim, www.google.com/search?q=lshort.pdf
[02:23] <PassionLim> Thanks~!
[02:23] <Seveas> that'll give you a good intro
[02:24] <Seveas> apt-get install lshort may work too
[02:24] <sorush20> I have problems restarting the hotplug system can someone help .. it just crashes..
[02:24] <Rylie> im back
[02:24] <gorilla> PassionLim, note that lacheck (a syntax checker for LaTex) doesnt' agree with pdflatex at times.
[02:24] <benplaut> if buying a new computer, are ATI drivers good enough yet to consider having one of their cards?
[02:24] <benplaut> or do they still suck?
[02:24] <hondje> ati suck
[02:24] <javmarlat> saludos
[02:25] <Seveas> well spoken, hondje :)
[02:25] <javmarlat> estoy intentando instalar una ditro de debian para un servidor
[02:25] <hondje> I'm known for my eloquence
[02:25] <nalioth> !es
[02:25] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:25] <Stricklin> What do most people use for website authoring? I used to use Dreamweaver because it saved to the remote site and auto-hinted code as I wrote.
[02:25] <kbrooks> I love Nvidia
[02:25] <javmarlat> sorry
[02:25] <nalioth> Stricklin: text or wsyiwyg?
[02:25] <sorush20> how do I find out if the kernel likes my system configuration..
[02:25] <Seveas> Stricklin, vim :)
[02:25] <Stricklin> I'm more of a text guy
[02:25] <hondje> sorush20: ask it?
[02:25] <Seveas> sorush20, by trying it?
[02:25] <none_-> sorush20, what do you mean?
[02:25] <TokenBad> hmm..why they make the scripts for xchat so hard to figure out
[02:25] <nalioth> Stricklin: Seveas points out vim, but bluefish works well
[02:25] <benplaut> how about Geforce 6600 256MB vs Geforce 6600 GT 128MB?
[02:26] <hondje> $ Dear `uname`, do you like this setup?
[02:26] <Seveas> nalioth, I always point out vim :)
[02:26] <Stricklin> vim or bluefish... gotcha
[02:26] <hondje> vim is the one true editor
[02:26] <kbrooks> nalioth, I do not like bluefish.
[02:26] <none_-> vile is better
[02:26] <nalioth> Stricklin: there are many html/css/etc tools available
[02:26] <Seveas> !start an editor wart
[02:26] <kbrooks> Tried it, scrapped it
[02:26] <ubotu> Seveas: I don't know
[02:26] <Seveas> !start an editor war
[02:26] <ubotu> gvim is better than emacs
[02:26] <hondje> By vile clearly you mean emacs
[02:26] <hondje> which is, naturally, quite vile :)
[02:26] <none_-> oh
[02:26] <sorush20> I can't seem to restart the hotplug system.. etc/init.d/hotplug restart freezes.. and nothing happens..
[02:27] <nalioth> Stricklin: the nice thing about linux is: all the programs are free to use, and you keep using the one you like
[02:27] <kbrooks> nalioth, I like choice. Choice is magical. :)
[02:27] <Stricklin> Yeah, it's just better to ask around and not waste so much time looking.
[02:27] <none_-> Stricklin, freshmeat.net
[02:27] <TokenBad> bah...stupid perl...
[02:27] <none_-> organize searches by vitality
[02:28] <none_-> that is a good predictor of the best application for any purpose
[02:28] <nalioth> Stricklin: but it's best to give each one a looksee
[02:28] <Seveas> unfortunately, emacs and bim take more than a looksee to appreciate
[02:28] <Tiggs> I want to edit the items on my Appications menu, how do i do that?
[02:28] <Seveas> s/bim/vim/
[02:28] <natedogg> Hey
[02:28] <Stricklin> What is a kickstart file?
[02:28] <natedogg> I don't think my soundcard is putting out any sort of data
[02:28] <none_-> nano works fine
[02:28] <kbrooks> Any clones of RCT2?
[02:28] <Seveas> Tiggs, with the application menu editor in aplications -> system tools
[02:28] <natedogg> how do I fix this
[02:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Tiggs about smeg
[02:29] <Seveas> Stricklin, something you don't need if you don't know what it is :)
[02:29] <natedogg> in the volum control it looks like the soundcard is sletected right
[02:29] <natedogg> but when i try to play a file nothing comes out, and when I boot upand login there is no sound.
[02:29] <Stricklin> now now...
[02:29] <kbrooks> RCT2 == RollerCoaster Tycoon 2
[02:29] <kbrooks> I have a CD with it.
[02:29] <kbrooks> from a cereal box.
[02:29] <natedogg> anyone able to help?
[02:29] <scribbles> ~/ is the same as /home/<username ?
[02:30] <none_-> yes
[02:30] <scribbles> thx
[02:30] <kbrooks> scribbles, ~/ == $HOME/
[02:30] <Trashcan> anyone get ubuntu working under VPC2004?
[02:30] <natedogg> okay so when I login, I get no sound. when I try to play a multimedia file, I get no sound. Anyone able to telll me what's going on?
[02:30] <natedogg> I have installed the multimedia codecs
[02:30] <kbrooks> Any ideas of a clone of RCT2?
[02:31] <kbrooks> Wine doesn't count.
[02:31] <none_-> natedogg, what player are you using?
[02:31] <natedogg> xmms, rythym box i tried both.
[02:31] <none_-> try running alsamixer ?
[02:31] <none_-> did you
[02:31] <none_-> try this
[02:31] <natedogg> I also did chmod 662/dev/dsp and chmod 666 /dev/mixer to try and fix it
[02:32] <natedogg> try what
[02:32] <none_-> killall -15 esd; cat /dev/urandom>/dev/dsp
[02:32] <none_-> sudo before that
[02:32] <none_-> sudo killall -15 esd; cat /dev/urandom>/dev/dsp
[02:32] <mkyb14> is there a way to upgrade from hoary to breezy through terminal?
[02:33] <nalioth> mkyb14: see /topic
[02:33] <none_-> mkyb14, apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:33] !lilo:*! Rearranged the FAQ to split out user registration related features into a "User Registration" section. Added a note about NOIDPREFIX to the FAQ on identity spoofing.
[02:33] <mkyb14> i did the dist-upgrade
[02:33] <mkyb14> so that means i'm at 5.10
[02:33] <Constanza18> r ircchat.terra.cl 7000
[02:33] <none_-> vi /etc/apt/sources.list then shift+colon then % s/hoary/breezy/
[02:33] <kbrooks> mkyb14, cat /etc/issue
[02:34] <nalioth> mkyb14: type in a terminal "lsb_release -a"
[02:34] <Seveas> none_-, sudo sed -e's/hoary/breezy' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <Seveas> :)
[02:34] <kbrooks> i have 5.04 nalioth ;)
[02:34] <none_-> mkyb14, or what Seveas saod
[02:34] <Tiggs> failed dependendies with smeg it says i need a newer version of python
[02:34] <none_-> said
[02:34] <natedogg> I get esd: no process killed when I typed that in, none_-
[02:34] <mkyb14> ok says hoary
[02:34] <Tiggs> the synatic says there isnt any newer version
[02:35] <none_-> natedogg, that's good
[02:35] <natedogg> ok ..
[02:35] <mkyb14> so i change my sources to...
[02:35] <none_-> now try cat /dev/urandom>/dev/dsp
[02:35] <nalioth> mkyb14: see /topic
[02:35] <mkyb14> what's this see /topic
[02:35] <mkyb14> doesn't do anything
[02:35] <none_-> sudo cat /dev/urandom>/dev/dsp
[02:35] <jake1> :-\... i need a free shell account
[02:35] <kbrooks> mkyb14, type /topic
[02:35] <nalioth> mkyb14: type /topic
[02:35] <none_-> "Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes"
[02:35] <mkyb14> nothing is popping up when you do that
[02:36] <none_-> jake1, there are plenty
[02:36] <jake1> preferably one that has IRC
[02:36] <jake1> none_- yea i have 4 already
[02:36] <benplaut> anyone have time to go over this configuration?
[02:36] <benplaut> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2722
[02:36] <jake1> i need another one
[02:36] <natedogg> uh
[02:36] <kbrooks> mkyb14, type this and exactly this: '/topic', no quotes
[02:36] <natedogg> nothing is really happening, none-_
[02:36] <nice_guy> hi
[02:36] <nice_guy> he;l;;
[02:36] <none_-> what happens?
[02:36] <altname> I want to try another distro, what else is worth trying
[02:36] <none_-> does it go back to prompt?
[02:36] <nice_guy> can u b may cjhat met
[02:36] <altname> cept ubuntu
[02:37] <kbrooks> altname, why??
[02:37] <natedogg> what should i do know
[02:37] <natedogg> npow
[02:37] <natedogg> now
[02:37] <nalioth> altname: www.distrowatch.com   have fun
[02:37] <atripathi> goodmorning
[02:37] <alkyl> hi guys
[02:37] <alkyl> i have a bit of a problem
[02:37] <none_-> natedogg, what is happenning?
[02:37] <none_-> what did it say?
[02:37] <nice_guy> hi
[02:37] <alkyl> maybe someone could answer ?
[02:37] <nice_guy> hello
[02:37] <atripathi> anyone using firefox 1.5 beta ?
[02:37] <altname> because gnome is kinda slow
[02:37] <nice_guy> can u b my chat met
[02:37] <natedogg> i didn't say anything
[02:37] <natedogg> it
[02:37] <nalioth> altname: you have to ask something first
[02:37] <none_-> did it go back to username@host ?
[02:37] <altname> I want something faster in desktop terms
[02:37] <alkyl> i just installed kubuntu, the install never prompted a root password ?
[02:37] <rolo> There is a windows application for pdf writing avaiable in ubuntu cd. Forgot its name..any help?
[02:37] <natedogg> no
[02:37] <natedogg> it idnt
[02:37] <nalioth> nice_guy: in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:37] <none_-> hit ctrl+C
[02:37] <alkyl> what is with that ?
[02:37] <nice_guy> hi
[02:37] <nice_guy> hello\] 
[02:37] <natedogg> I did
[02:37] <natedogg> then i repasted
[02:38] <natedogg> and it didnt go back to uer
[02:38] <atripathi> when someone but root try to fire it up .. it crashes
[02:38] <nice_guy> can u b my chat met\
[02:38] <D1> anyone using xchat right now?
[02:38] <alkyl> DI, no i cant install it
[02:38] <none_-> it appears that /dev/dsp is associated with some device
[02:38] <Seveas> not again...
[02:38] <alkyl> i dont know the root password?
[02:38] <none_-> try running alsamixer
[02:38] <natedogg> how do i run that
[02:38] <atripathi> anyone ?
[02:38] <Stricklin> I installed vim-gnome, but I don't see it under my applications menu
[02:38] <D1> I need to know what the default font it uses....I just installed xchat-gnome from breezy.
[02:38] <none_-> type in sudo alsamixer
[02:38] <none_-> in a terminal
[02:38] <Tiggs> nalioth, how do i update my python so i can install smeg?
[02:38] <Seveas> none_-, no sudo with alsamixer :)
[02:39] <natedogg> ok
[02:39] <natedogg> its giving me
[02:39] <natedogg> master
[02:39] <D1> by the way, the ubuntu icon replacing the foot looks GREAT
[02:39] <none_-> i thought you had to be in the audio group to run alsamixer
[02:39] <natedogg> master bla
[02:39] <natedogg> has my soundcard thing
[02:39] <nalioth> Tiggs: use synaptic or the "installsmeg" script from the smeg homepage
[02:39] <altname> Is there anything new coming as far as linux distros?
[02:39] <altname> any new distros coming?
[02:39] <kbrooks> Tiggs, lsb_release -a and look at 'Version: '
[02:39] <altname> like the suse 10
[02:39] <natedogg> ok so i got
[02:39] <altname> anything else worth trying?
[02:39] <natedogg> card: intel blah
[02:39] <kbrooks> Tiggs, what is it? ;)
[02:39] <none_-> natedogg, use up and down to change volume
[02:39] <natedogg> chip: analog devices
[02:39] <user_> sup all
[02:39] <Tiggs> nalioth, ok i have the installsmg script but how do i run it?
[02:39] <Lord_Maynoth> I am looking forward to the new xandros
[02:39] <none_-> right and left to switch
[02:40] <nalioth> Tiggs: ./installsmeg
[02:40] <excession> I'm having problems with the ATi drivers. Tried both the repository ones and from ATi's website. fglrxinfo reports I am using mesa. Used fglrxconfig to remake my xorg.conf. I'm running Breezy and have a Radeon X800.
[02:40] <Seveas> Tiggs, sudo python installsmeg
[02:40] <excession> Have followed the guide in the forums. Any suggestions?
[02:40] <Tiggs> ok
[02:40] <LeeColleton> my printer has gone dotty.  It's a HP PSC 1210 and was working fine pre-Breezy.  Now it prints black as color and reds not at all.  Methinks HPIJS is to blame.  Has anyone else seen this?
[02:40] <Lord_Maynoth> I just wish the autopackage project would take off.... man... linux become more popular than windows when you are not tied to a central repository anymore...
[02:40] <hondje> That doesn't make sense to me
[02:41] <hondje> Why on earth would you want to dig around websites for packages when you can just apt-get install them?
[02:41] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, autopackage is the worst crud I've ever seen in package management
[02:41] <Tiggs> THANK YOU!
[02:41] <hondje> That's just wierd
[02:41] <Tiggs> *does the happy dance*
[02:41] <none_-> natedogg, i gotta go.
[02:41] <natedogg> aww
[02:41] <natedogg> now i cant even
[02:41] <natedogg> play the mp3 file
[02:41] <natedogg> lol
[02:41] <none_-> :(
[02:41] <Lord_Maynoth> works me seveas
[02:42] <Lord_Maynoth> gaim caused no problems
[02:42] <kbrooks> Seveas, why do you think ap is the worst
[02:42] <Tiggs> I have one more question, is there a tool to change the splash screen? i dont like the brown
[02:42] <Lord_Maynoth> because it allows noobies to use linux easily
[02:42] <Lord_Maynoth> thats a bad thing
[02:42] <kbrooks> Tiggs, splash screen? as in desktop background?
[02:42] <Seveas> kbrooks, because it overwrites things without warning, brings back dll hell and is worse than rpm hell
[02:43] <none_-> apt owns
[02:43] <Tiggs> kbrooks, , no splash screen as it after you log in, it shows this brown bar that says ubuntu or something
[02:43] <Seveas> !tell Tiggs about splash
[02:43] <Seveas> damnit, who removed that one
[02:44] <kbrooks> Seveas, hehe.
[02:44] <Seveas> Tiggs: To change the Ubuntu splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[02:44] <Tiggs> Seveas, do i need to sudo to do that?
[02:44] <Seveas> Tiggs, no
[02:45] <kbrooks> ubotu, splash is <reply>To change the Ubuntu splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[02:45] <ubotu> kbrooks: okay
[02:45] <kbrooks> Seveas, are you satisfied now?
[02:45] <excession> Quick question: Does PCI-E work properly under linux? ie Can a PCI-E ATi card actually WORK with hardware acceleration at all? Or is it just me?
[02:46] <kbrooks> Seveas, How long have you used Ubuntu for?
[02:46] <Seveas> kbrooks, since warty preview
[02:47] <kbrooks> Cool.
[02:47] <Tortel> tehe, i use debian
[02:47] <Tortel> first used ubuntu tho
[02:48] <moparfan90> can someone explain to me what raid is and what the eaid 1 and raid 0 is please
[02:48] <Jet2k5> anybody here have the wiki URL to install  p2p_small on an amd64 system?
[02:48] <bozzu> where can i find libdvdcss? synaptic does not show it
[02:49] <Seveas> moparfan90, look on wikipedia
[02:49] <kbrooks> many questions.
[02:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bozzu about dvd
[02:49] <moparfan90> ok
[02:49] <X3N_> moparfan90, http://en.wikipedia.com/raid
[02:49] <Seveas> it has a nice explanation
[02:49] <moparfan90> thanks
[02:50] <kbrooks> now to actually do something.
[02:50] <bozzu> can i use hoary-extras on breezy?
[02:50] <gorilla> moparfan90, try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/raid instead..
[02:50] <excession> Well...I can't get acceleration happening, I've been trying for five hours. Just so y'all know, I think Ubuntu is really nice and its great to see debian-based desktop-friendly distros out there.
[02:50] <excession> Now I'm gonna install windows.
[02:50] <kbrooks> excession, :|
[02:50] <Jet2k5> anybody know?
[02:50] <kbrooks> excession, acceleration?
[02:51] <gorilla> excession: which video card do you have?
[02:51] <excession> As in hardware acceleration with my ATi card, aye.
[02:51] <kbrooks> excession, umm. ati?
[02:51] <excession> I have an ATi Radeon X800.
[02:51] <thrice`> hrm...still no luck with fglrx
[02:51] <kbrooks> ati sucks.
[02:51] <thrice`> anyone have fglrx working with breezy ?
[02:51] <MadpilotPPC> excession, ATI cards should work find. What model?
[02:51] <thrice`> libGLcore errors
[02:51] <MadpilotPPC> *fine, not find...
[02:51] <excession> On an MSI Nforce 4 PCI-E motherboard, with an AMD64 3500, but using the i386 install of ubuntu.
[02:52] <vitriol> is there some kind of benchmark to see the overall performance on a linux system?
[02:52] <Seveas> thrice`, i have fglrx here
[02:52] <vitriol> like 3dmark or whatever its called
[02:52] <Seveas> vitriol, benchmarks are useless for that
[02:52] <thrice`> Seveas, do I need anything other than xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[02:52] <vitriol> Seveas: why do you say that?
[02:52] <Seveas> thrice`, linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:52] <Seveas> vitriol, because that;s a fact
[02:52] <MadpilotPPC> excession, have you followed the ATI drivers page on the Ubuntu wiki?
[02:52] <thrice`> ah, maybe that's the glCore it's complaining about
[02:52] <MadpilotPPC> !tell excession about ati
[02:53] <excession> Yep. I've followed them twice, with a re-install in between. I've also tried the drivers from the ATi website.
[02:53] <thechitowncubs> if I do a dist-upgrade will evolution retain my data?
[02:53] <thrice`> Seveas, actually, i have that installed
[02:53] <kbrooks> thechitowncubs, yes
[02:53] <kbrooks> thechitowncubs, i havent ever used it
[02:53] <thechitowncubs> what if it doesn;t?
[02:53] <vitriol> Seveas: benchmarks are not useless....they give users an idea of how well their hardware is running
[02:53] <Seveas> thrice`, get a decent xorg.conf then :)
[02:53] <Seveas> vitriol, except that they don't :)
[02:53] <kbrooks> vitriol, they are useless
[02:53] <thrice`> Seveas, I did, actually...that;'s what I don't get
[02:53] <perfect_guy> hi
[02:53] <perfect_guy> hello
[02:53] <perfect_guy> can u b my hcat met
[02:54] <thrice`> Seveas, you're on breezy right ?
[02:54] <vitriol> can anybody tell me why benchmarks are useless?
[02:54] <Seveas> thrice`, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2723
[02:54] <kbrooks> vitriol, benchmarks also factor in the *program* that runs the benchmarks
[02:54] <kbrooks> therefore
[02:54] <Seveas> vitriol, since they measure nonsense
[02:54] <perfect_guy> hi
[02:54] <perfect_guy> hello
[02:54] <kbrooks> the results are inaccurate, nonvalid, null and void
[02:54] <excession> MadpilotPPC: Ta for the links, buddy. I've already follow all the guides, though. :)
[02:54] <thechitowncubs> What if I do a dist-upgrade and it doesn't retain my evolution data?
[02:54] <Kyral> it will
[02:54] <kbrooks> NEVER trust benchmarks
[02:54] <thrice`> Seveas, is that from fglrxconfig ?
[02:54] <kbrooks> NEVER!
[02:55] <Kyral> the only true CPU rating is the Bogomip!
[02:55] <Seveas> thrice`, no
[02:55] <Seveas> fglrxconfig makes a mess
[02:55] <Seveas> this is hand-tuned
[02:55] <climber> hi
[02:55] <TokenBad> I don't even know what a bogomip is
[02:55] <Kyral> Neither did I
[02:55] <gorilla> kyral, you are kidding me..:-(
[02:55] <Kyral> do a cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:55] <thrice`> Seveas, which card do you have ?
[02:55] <kbrooks> Seveas, is my answer about benchmarks correct?
[02:55] <Kyral> I am NOT kidding
 the results are inaccurate, nonvalid, null and void <-- if you mean that one: yes
[02:56] <Seveas> thrice`, radeon mobile 9600
[02:56] <kbrooks> Seveas, all of it
[02:56] <thechitowncubs> Anyone care to answer if I upgrade to Breezy what if my Evolution data gets borked?
[02:56] <Kyral> a Bogomips measure the mount of times per second a computer can do nothing
[02:56] <climber> I making a work about ubuntu, and and I need who develop Ubuntu?
[02:56] <Kyral> thechitowncubs, I did
[02:56] <ogami1972> hi channel
[02:56] <climber> Ubuntu Team?
[02:56] <thechitowncubs> its very important and i want to make sure everything will be flawless
[02:56] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, how would your evo data get borked?
[02:56] <gorilla> Kyral: its a expression of the timing loop that linux ues... the bogo comes from bogus :-) bogomips is not a benchmark.
[02:56] <thrice`> Seveas, hrm...I'll tweek that...be back soon =] 
[02:56] <ogami1972> can anyone help with bzflag vs X issues?
[02:56] <Seveas> thrice`, good luck :)
[02:56] <joniak99> question-----has anyone here been able to burn avi or dvix movies to dvd????
[02:56] <moparfan90> im making a new computer and am going to use windows because i want quake 4. im am switching to a amd 64 processor. does anyone know if there is anything i have to do to avoid errors in windows or ubuntu?
[02:56] <thechitowncubs> Seveas, I have no idea, but if it does i'll come crying :)
[02:56] <Kyral> gorilla, its the one true measure of CPU speed across 99% of CPUs
[02:57] <Seveas> moparfan90, yes, get another OS
[02:57] <Jet2k5> Moder, up I think quake 4 has a Linux naitive prot
[02:57] <Jet2k5> port **
[02:57] <Seveas> what I mean: every os has errors
[02:57] <kbrooks> Kyral, You are implying that is a benchmark.
[02:57] <Kyral> Maybe it is
[02:57] <Kyral> after all
[02:58] <kbrooks> "one true measure of CPU speed across 99% of CPUs"
[02:58] <moparfan90> seveas, well i mean from changing... i have never used a 64 bit processpr are they the same  as 32bit
[02:58] <excession> Does anyone here have a PCI-E video card working with the ATi drivers? Just out of interest?
[02:58] <Kyral> a CPU that does 4300 bogomips is faster than one that does 2000 bogomips
[02:58] <Seveas> moparfan90, no :)
[02:58] <Seveas> excession, not on hoary, hoary kernels don't support it out of the box
[02:58] <kbrooks> moparfan90, 64 is backward compat with 32
[02:58] <moparfan90> oo ok. is 64 bit alot faster then 32 bit?
[02:58] <moparfan90> o
[02:58] <Seveas> moparfan90, only on a few special apps
[02:58] <Kyral> and since its such a low level calculation
[02:58] <joniak99> question-----has anyone here been able to burn avi or dvix movies to dvd????
[02:58] <Seveas> and not with windows
[02:59] <Kyral> there is no program to take into effect
[02:59] <HrdwrBoB> joniak99: yse
[02:59] <excession> Seveas: Aye, thats OK, I'm on Breezy. Know if it works for that? :)
[02:59] <Kyral> bogomips        : 4620.28
[02:59] <joniak99> HrdwrBob:  what program?
[02:59] <moparfan90> what about games . thats the main reson im buying this i hear its the best cpu for gaming
[02:59] <moparfan90> is it better
[02:59] <moparfan90> for half life 2?
[02:59] <locomorto> FX 57?
[02:59] <moparfan90> no
[02:59] <Seveas> excession, afaik yes, but don't hang me if i'm wrong
[03:00] <moparfan90> thats like $2k
[03:00] <joniak99> HrdwrBob: i looked at avidemux but seems too mutch
[03:00] <yarddog> bogomips        : 6373.37
[03:00] <Kyral> Shouldn't this go in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:00] <locomorto> exactly that is the best CPU for gaming
[03:00] <gorilla> moparfan90, thre is not gaes that i no of that make use of 64 bit CPUS...
[03:00] <excession> Thanks for answering.
[03:00] <Kyral> yarddog, what CPU?
[03:00] <yarddog> P4 3.2 HT
[03:00] <Kyral> psh
[03:00] <moparfan90> ok
[03:00] <Seveas> kyncani, kinda...
[03:00] <yarddog> heh
[03:00] <moparfan90> bye everyone
[03:00] <Kyral> AMD Athon XP 2700+ at 2.3 Ghz
[03:00] <zielony> hello
[03:01] <Seveas> goodbye
[03:01] <yarddog> :)
[03:01] <zielony> I'm from poland, anybody speak polish ?
[03:01] <zielony> gada ktos po polsku ?
[03:01] <Kyral> maybe in #ubuntu-pl (if it exists)
[03:01] <zielony> thx
[03:01] <zielony> no
[03:01] <gorilla> Zibby, I think there is a ubuntu polish channel #ubuntu-po here on freenode
[03:02] <TokenBad> anyone here run scripts for xchat?
[03:02] <gorilla> zielony* rther
[03:02] <vitriol> well...about this benchmarking question...it stemmed from originally having prolems with setting udma on my dvdrom (jittery videoes watching dvds)
[03:02] <vitriol> i tried to set udma 5
[03:02] <zielony> dosent work ..
[03:02] <vitriol> and got this:
[03:02] <vitriol> Oct  2 11:53:18 localhost kernel: [4372991.283000]  hdc: Speed warnings UDMA 3/4/5 is not functional.
[03:02] <vitriol> i think i have dma on now, so i can watch dvds, but its still a little jumpy
[03:03] <yarddog> Linux menace 2.6.12-9-686-smp #1 SMP Sat Oct 1 00:55:37 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:03] <vitriol> does that mean that the drive doesn't support those dma modes?
[03:03] <vitriol> or the kernel?
[03:03] <pulver> how do u change default wm metacity to something else? gconf-editor /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager changed nothing
[03:03] <yarddog> where is that tutorial/doc for that ati card for ubuntu? the wiki?
[03:04] <vitriol> pulver: if you do a search on the forums for 'enlightened gnome'
[03:04] <vitriol> pulver: you can find an answer to your question on that thread
[03:04] <locomorto> !tell yarddog about ati
[03:04] <pulver> vitriol: ok ty
[03:05] <vitriol> can anybody explain my dma problems with the dvdrom?
[03:05] <JaNez> what is the chmod for the archivos, i wanna write, modify and eliminate the archives
[03:05] <JaNez> what is de number of chmod?
[03:05] <vitriol> 2 MB in  4.92 seconds = 416.66 kB/sec
[03:08] <moparfan90> is there a way with synpatic to install win32 codecs on mplayer and totem?
[03:08] <Seveas> moparfan90, apt-get install w32codecs totem-xine
[03:08] <moparfan90> ook
[03:08] <moparfan90> thanks
[03:08] <moparfan90> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[03:09] <Quinthius> Seveas: i thought the codecs werent in the repos anymore?
[03:09] <vitriol> you have universe uncommented?
[03:09] <moparfan90> i have all them
[03:09] <vitriol> nm i don't see them either
[03:09] <vitriol> guess Quinthius is right
[03:10] <grndslm> approx. when will all the backports and uni/multiverse packages be complete for breezy?
[03:10] <moparfan90> seveas, i got this error:   E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[03:10] <Seveas> moparfan90, then find a repo that has them :)
[03:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell moparfan90 about w32codecs
[03:11] <Lord_Maynoth> here is a question
[03:11] <durt> here they are: http://debian.tu-bs.de/mplayer/ftp.n...2-0.0_i386.deb
[03:11] <durt> oops
[03:11] <durt> http://debian.tu-bs.de/mplayer/ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[03:11] <nalioth> you guys are making a mountain out of a molehill
[03:11] <Lord_Maynoth> have you guys ever updated using synaptic, and it screwed up unbunt?
[03:11] <nalioth> durt: /msg ubotu w32codecs
[03:11] <kataklsym> what would be the equivalent to MS Money for linux, specifically ubuntu?
[03:12] <nalioth> if you guys cant use ubotus info, go to www.mplayerhq.hu and download the codecs direct
[03:12] <nalioth> kataklsym: gnucash
[03:12] <kataklsym> i need something that will import a MS Money database and have all the features that MS Money does..
[03:12] <kataklsym> nalioth, does gnucash import MS Money dbs?
[03:12] <nalioth> kataklsym: not sure
[03:12] <kataklsym> ill check it out and see
[03:12] <shivi> I am getting this message
[03:13] <nalioth> kataklsym: http://www.gnucash.org/
[03:13] <shivi> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:13] <nalioth> shivi: try again later
[03:13] <funkyHat> anyone here ever used xmove?
[03:13] <kbrooks> Question:
[03:14] <shivi> but I need to get libdvdcss2
[03:14] <kbrooks> why does minimizing any program make it ....
[03:14] <kbrooks> run faster?
[03:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shivi about dvd
[03:14] <shivi> he did and I added the repo
[03:14] <grndslm> approx. when will all the backports and uni/multiverse package repositories be complete for breezy?
[03:14] <shivi> still the same error
[03:14] <nalioth> shivi: you added extras?
[03:14] <X3N_> can't get ubuntu to install on 64mb of ram, anyone managed this feat ?
[03:15] <kbrooks> X3N_, server install please
[03:15] <X3N_> tried it
[03:15] <X3N_> and tried making a swap partion for it and using swapon while the installer is running
[03:15] <shivi> yes I did
[03:15] <shivi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[03:16] <X3N_> still get killed - out of memory
[03:17] <moparfan90> how do i extract comprssed files in terminal?
[03:17] <MCJedi> what's the command to install epic irc client?
[03:17] <moparfan90> and using sudo
[03:17] <Seveas> moparfan90, tar zxf
[03:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shivi about hoary-extras
[03:17] <moparfan90> whats zxf
[03:17] <nalioth> shivi: use the correct repos
[03:17] <X3N_> type man tar and it will tell you
[03:18] <thechitowncubs> I wish I could set up Samba the right way...
[03:19] <Xorlev> I need a little assistance...recently I've switched to the Opera Web Browser, but my forward/back mouse buttons (Microsoft Intellimouse) only make pages scroll, not move forward or back as in Firefox.
[03:19] <moparfan90> ok i just extracted the files to desktop   how do i send them to a folder but i need to use sudo?
[03:20] <natedogg> anyone wanna help me troubleshoot sound issues with ubuntu 5.10?
[03:20] <kbrooks> moparfan90, no
[03:20] <kbrooks> moparfan90, what is this for
[03:20] <moparfan90> win32 codecs
[03:20] <moparfan90> what do you mean no   i cant?
[03:20] <natedogg> any help with sound issues?
[03:20] <stevewabc_laptop> ? is anyone here running a 5.25 bay cooling fan? this case has no front vents and my box temp is running 125 D.
[03:21] <nalioth> moparfan90: you install debs using "dpkg -i file.deb"
[03:21] <durt> xorlev- play around with tools>preference>advanced>shortcuts
[03:21] <moparfan90> its not a .deb file
[03:21] <kbrooks> moparfan90,
[03:21] <moparfan90> theres like 100 files
[03:21] <kbrooks> moparfan90, what is this for
[03:21] <kbrooks> explain
[03:21] <nalioth> moparfan90: the codecs go in /usr/local/lib/codecs
[03:21] <crispynix> stevewabc_laptop: 125 D?
[03:21] <Davey> my CD drive is refusing to open/mount/umount, any idea?
[03:21] <Xorlev> durt: I have. For the past two hours, which is why I'm asking for assistance.
[03:21] <MachineScrew> can any one tell me how I can reinstall a kernel image ?
[03:22] <moparfan90> i thought its win32?
[03:22] <hondje> sudo apt-get install --reinstall <kernel version you want to resintall>
[03:22] <kbrooks> moparfan90, i have told you to explain twice. please do so.
[03:22] <moparfan90> its win32 codecs for mplayer and totem player
[03:22] <nalioth> moparfan90: /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[03:22] <Zoohouse> I just installed a buch of packages on ubuntu 5.04 but it doesn't appear on the menu... Do  I need to refresh the menu?
[03:22] <moparfan90> what dont you get
[03:22] <moparfan90> ok
[03:23] <Seveas> Zoohouse, not all packages define menu entries
[03:23] <durt> xorlev: i dont know it this will help... : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/358495
[03:23] <Zoohouse> Tuxracer should...
[03:24] <ZBlach> hi
[03:24] <MCJedi> what's the command to install epic irc client?
[03:24] <zielony> jest tu jakis polak ?
[03:24] <Chinaman> anyone know how to setup printers?
[03:25] <ZBlach> why can't I set settings with iwconfig? I get no errors, but its not working
[03:25] <funkyHat> MCJedi, apt-cache search epic irc
[03:25] <thrice`> ok, why wouldn't I have an fglrx module?
[03:25] <funkyHat> then sudo apt-get install packagename
[03:25] <ZBlach> !ubuntu-po
[03:25] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, ZBlach
[03:25] <ZBlach> !ubuntu-pl
[03:25] <ubotu> ZBlach: I give up, what is it?
[03:25] <thrice`> xorg-driver-fglrx doesn't provide the module ?
[03:26] <ZBlach> i can detect my wireless network, i just can't connect to it
[03:26] <durt> !polish
[03:26] <ubotu> durt: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:26] <X3N_> ZBlach, study "man iwconfig"
[03:27] <ZBlach> X3N_, i've read it 'cover' to 'cover'
[03:27] <chimpee> seriously considering a switch from Fedora 4 to ubuntu... rpm's pissin me off...
[03:27] <Orunitia> chimpee: good choice :P
[03:27] <solidgroove> im sorry i looked at porn j\k :)
[03:27] <thrice`> Seveas: around ?
[03:27] <chimpee> orunitia: i don't expect anyone in here to be biased :)
[03:27] <Davey> grrr, damn thing, unmount you piece of shit :/
[03:28] <Orunitia> chimpee: haha not at all :P
[03:28] <solidgroove> ubuntu is the greatest distro ever
[03:28] <Orunitia> chimpee: but apt is a lot better than rpm's
[03:28] <Razor-X> hmmm, how does screen's check for activity work?
[03:28] <imterro> s can
[03:28] <durt> zblach: maybe "ifup wlan0" or whatever your device is
[03:28] <solidgroove> they were saying debian is better than windows ubuntu must be as well
[03:29] <chimpee> but i did come for some advice... i ordered the 5.10 cd... should i wait until i receive it  to install?
[03:29] <chimpee> as opposed to installing the preview now...
[03:29] <Orunitia> if you can download it, it would be a LOT faster. those cd's take forever and a day to arrive
[03:29] <JosephSpiros> OK, so... I'm going to install Ubuntu on a machine
[03:29] <JosephSpiros> and I'd like to install 5.10
[03:30] <JosephSpiros> What's the best method to do so?
[03:30] <Orunitia> and the preview is really stable, at least for me and most people say so
[03:30] <ScatterBrain> chimpee: I've heard that the Preview Release isn't as fast as the final release will be.
[03:30] <durt> why does the courier new font have screwed up pound characters?
[03:30] <JosephSpiros> should I install Hoary and upgrade or is there some CD image I can use to do something more from scratch?
[03:30] <chimpee> scatter: if i install the preview will i be able to upgrade to final without undoing my whole setup?
[03:30] <ScatterBrain> chimpee: I'd wait until 5.10 is released and d/l the ISOs.
[03:31] <dbw> Razor-X: an app sends a signal to the terminal or wm
[03:31] <X3N_> shouldn't really matter JosephSpiros
[03:31] <ScatterBrain> chimpee: Should be able too.  It should just be like an apt-get upgrade.
[03:31] <thrice`> ok, i quit
[03:31] <thrice`> fglrx is broke on breezy
[03:31] <transgress> thrice`: no it isn't
[03:31] <st1lgar> don't type "free the fish" in the run app dialog !
[03:31] <thrice`> transgress: it WILL not work for me
[03:31] <chimpee> ScatterBrain, the thing is, i need to setup my dev environment, so if i stick with fedora core 4 for 2 more weeks, i'll have alot more work to redo before i'm up to speed again
[03:31] <transgress> fglrxconfig is... but fglrx isn't broken
[03:31] <kevogod> It works for me.
[03:31] <ScatterBrain> chimpee: 5.04 --> 5.10 should be just as easy.
[03:31] <transgress> thrice`: well you're doing it wron
[03:31] <transgress> g
[03:31] <thrice`> how ?
[03:32] <thrice`> I have no fglrx module
[03:32] <thrice`> that is the problem
[03:32] <JosephSpiros> X3N_: I know it shouldn't in theory, but for example, in Debian, moving from Woody to Sarge, that shouldn't have been a problem, but certain subsystem changes caused all sorts of evil files to be littered across my filesystem that were used by old packages
[03:32] <thrice`> am I supposed to compile it myself ?
[03:32] <transgress> did you get the restricted modules and the fglrx package?
[03:32] <thrice`> this method has worked on the past 5 distros...I doubt it's me
[03:32] <ScatterBrain> chimpee: So, install 5.04 now. and upgrade 5.10 later.
[03:32] <thrice`> linux-restricted-modules ?
[03:32] <transgress> thrice`: yes.  and the xorg-fglrx package...
[03:32] <transgress> fglrx                 255716  7
[03:32] <chimpee> ScatterBrain, the preview is that bad eh :)
[03:32] <transgress> it's there.  i promise.
[03:33] <thrice`> transgress: I have xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:33] <noobtastic> Hi, I have a question about i18n. I have audio files from arount the world, and in Gtk/GNOME apps often append (invalid encoding) or (invalid utf-8) to the files. Additionally, gnome-terminal replaces many characters in the filenames with question marks. Is there a way to fix this?
[03:33] <noobtastic> Do I need to add more locales to /etc/locale.gen or something?
[03:33] <transgress> thrice`: what happened when you did modprobe fglrx?
[03:33] <thrice`> transgress: fatal, module not found
[03:33] <transgress> purge the package and re-get it
[03:33] <durt> how bout "insmod fglrx.ko"
[03:33] <thrice`> transgress: I have 3 times now
[03:33] <ScatterBrain> chimpee: No.  I saw it this weekend at a conference.  It's OK, but since it's "not quite ready", I don't think I'd trust a production machine to it.
[03:34] <ZBlach> alright. "My card has failed to associate with the access point". How can I make things nice and friendly again?
[03:34] <transgress> actually... updatedb and then locate fglrx
[03:34] <transgress> see if it is there.
[03:34] <thrice`> no such file or directory
[03:34] <transgress> locate doesn't say that... so anyways... try locating it
[03:34] <thrice`> transgress: all I need is xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[03:34] <Razor-X> dbw: so it has to be app specific?
[03:35] <transgress> thrice`: and the restricted modules
[03:35] <KlinkMeister> I have a Radeon 9600 I get about 2000FPS w/ glxgears, is that about normal?
[03:35] <transgress> KlinkMeister: actually that's quite good
[03:35] <ScatterBrain> KlinkMeister: With the frglx drivers, yeah.
[03:35] <KlinkMeister> ty
[03:35] <thrice`> transgress: yes, it's in restricted modules, /usr/lib/fglrx, etc.
[03:35] <transgress> glxgears doesn't work for me anymore
[03:36] <transgress> not sure what it is... but fgl_glxgears work great
[03:36] <ScatterBrain> KlinkMeister: I think my Radeon 9200 gets about 1200 or so.
[03:36] <chimpee> ScatterBrain, ah right... but it's not production yet.. switching from windows so there's quite the learning curve.. if i can run php5 apache2 as well as mono and monodevelop i will be quite happy
[03:36] <ZBlach> Radeon 9700 gets around 2700, so you're doing well
[03:36] <transgress> glxgears just goes really slow for me... but fgl_glxgears flies...
[03:36] <transgress> ScatterBrain: what do you get with fgl_glxgears ?
[03:36] <thrice`> ok, i quit
[03:36] <KlinkMeister> Thats what i used to have, wasnt too bad i have some trouble using cedega now though
[03:37] <seife> i quit too.
[03:37] <transgress> i start!
[03:37] <epiloc> is it possible to operate as root in knoqueror so that i may edit/rename/copy/move/etc files and folders without using the command line?
[03:37] <s3[mn] rain> I am trying to apply a patch to some source code, but I get "patch: **** unexpected end of file in patch", I copied the patch from a web page and stuck in a file, but it is not working :(
[03:37] <ScatterBrain> chimpee: It'll do all of that.  And if it's not a production machine then the 10% or so of performance loss isn't going to be bad either.
[03:37] <ZBlach> thrice, seife, I accept your resignations
[03:37] <epiloc> i tried #kubuntu but no response
[03:37] <thrice`> back to slack
[03:37] <solidgroove> linux is great
[03:37] <seife> lol
[03:38] <ZBlach> solidgroove, *thumbs up*
[03:38] <ScatterBrain> transgress: I can't remember for sure.  But I know it's *much* less than glx-gears is.
[03:38] <transgress> epiloc: could set up a shortcut to kdesu konqueror i suppose... why the problem with starting it in commandland?
[03:38] <chimpee> ScatterBrain,  yeah and i get to feel leet ;D
[03:38] <KlinkMeister> I am still pretty new to linux, i have tries suse, Vector and Ubuntu seems to be the best for me
[03:38] <transgress> ScatterBrain: yeah there is a reason for that though... it's supposed to be less.
[03:38] <ScatterBrain> chimpee: Exactly.  ;-)
[03:38] <solidgroove> i need to enable multiverse and universe and do some updates on my new install of 5.04
[03:38] <ScatterBrain> transgress: Right.  I'm thinking is like 500 fps or something.
[03:38] <durt> why does gnomebaker write discs for me at a max speed of only about 4x?
[03:38] <solidgroove> and compile 2.6.13.2
[03:39] <ScatterBrain> Let me see if I can get that box fired up and try it.
[03:39] <epiloc> transgress: how would i start a root knoqueror session from console?
[03:39] <Trashcan> sudo konquerer
[03:39] <Trashcan> type your password
[03:40] <Trashcan> err wait...
[03:40] <transgress> epiloc: sudo konqueror
[03:40] <chimpee> i do pretty serious enterprise n-tier type development ... i want to dive into hardcore linux development... writing kernel modules or compilers
[03:41] <Trashcan> i think you use gksudo, not sudo
[03:41] <nalioth> transgress: to start kde gui apps, it's best to use kdesu
[03:41] <epiloc> that works just fine, but i still cant delete files and folders
[03:41] <durt> chimpee: can you write some modules and drivers and stuff for me then? ;)
[03:41] <nalioth> transgress: sorry
[03:41] <Trashcan> ignore me..
[03:41] <nalioth> Trashcan: : to start kde gui apps, it's best to use kdesu
[03:42] <Trashcan> right
[03:42] <epiloc> nalioth, example?
[03:42] <chimpee> durt: are you talking embedded drivers for cool linux based hardware? :D
[03:42] <transgress> nalioth: well i said to do that with a shortcut... didn't realize there was a big difference in command line though
[03:42] <chimpee> or for your linmodem
[03:42] <nalioth> epiloc: kmenu > run program > kdesu konqueror
[03:42] <durt> chimpee: for my toshiba laptop
[03:43] <ian__> Whenever i minimize anything it quits any ideas why?
[03:43] <Tortel> im BORED
[03:43] <Tortel> :(
[03:43] <grndslm> anybody here know if a mini-itx motherboard is available for pentium m processors???
[03:43] <ZBlach> ian__, maybe you're hitting the wrong button
[03:43] <Trashcan> ian__: wrong button
[03:43] <Trashcan> ?
[03:44] <Tortel> lol, could be it
[03:44] <ian__> lol i wish that was it
[03:44] <Tortel> ian__, far left button
[03:44] <ZBlach> like _far_ left
[03:44] <yoink> excuse me, synaptic doesnt seem to like my sources.list, can someone help? Here is my sources.list and the synaptic error... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2725
[03:45] <epiloc> nalioth, that works great, but i still cant delete folders via knoqueror... i create /test but can only remove it via command line
[03:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell yoink about sources
[03:45] <epiloc> sudo rm test -rf
[03:46] <ZBlach> ubotu, tell me about sources
[03:46] <nalioth> epiloc: that is odd
[03:46] <lakin> I'm having a problem getting the ndiswrapper module inserted into my kernel, I'm running modprobe using sudo, but still getting this: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:46] <ZBlach> !seen ubunut
[03:46] <ubotu> ubunut <n=radiskul@Toronto-HSE-ppp3726149.sympatico.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 1d 23h 2m 55s ago, saying: 'I [heart]  ubuntu ^_^~~~'.
[03:46] <chimpee> durt: i promise to do my absolute best if you have a 2nd toshiba laptop to ship me so i can test on :D
[03:47] <durt> i you hand me a few thousand bucks, chimpee
[03:48] <MCJedi> ok the root guy says this
[03:48] <MCJedi> 8:26pm]  <Fudge> sorry mate
[03:48] <ZBlach> anyone wanna help me establish contact with my router?
[03:48] <MCJedi> [8:27pm]  <Fudge> ask him why i couldnt just compile it
[03:48] <MCJedi> [8:28pm]  <Fudge> i got errors in make
[03:48] <nalioth> MCJedi: and your point is?
[03:48] <chimpee> durt: hmm no deal :(
[03:49] <nalioth> ZBlach: put 192.169.0.1 in your address bar of your browser
[03:49] <yoink> nalioth, ive already looked at that...i used the sample sources.list
[03:49] <MCJedi> nalioth: it was in response to this: [8:24pm]  <funkyHat> MCJedi, apt-cache search epic irc
[03:49] <nalioth> yoink: then what is it saying (use a pastebin)
[03:49] <durt> zblach, if your in gnome, go to the network tools thing and make sure its setup correctly (ie, dhcp)
[03:49] <ZBlach> nalioth , that supposed to be my router address?
[03:49] <nalioth> MCJedi: i'm not getting it. just ask a question
[03:49] <nalioth> ZBlach: yes, for some routers
[03:49] <yarddog> wiki troubleshooter for the fglrx works very well, worked for me :)
[03:49] <ZBlach> durt, says its configured correctly, and it matches my windows config, but its nowt working
[03:49] <MCJedi> having trouble installing epic on ubuntu
[03:50] <yoink> nalioth, i did!  it was in my original question...
[03:50] <MCJedi> how can it be done? is my question
[03:50] <yoink> excuse me, synaptic doesnt seem to like my sources.list, can someone help? Here is my sources.list and the synaptic error... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2725
[03:50] <ZBlach> nalioth: "Connection Refused"
[03:50] <ZBlach> yoink, look for a nicer one
[03:50] <nalioth> yoink: we need error msgs, "doesnt like" doesnt tell us anything
[03:50] <yoink> ZBlach, a nicer sample or pastebin?
[03:51] <epiloc> anyone recommend a nice gooey ftp server for kde?
[03:51] <ZBlach> yoink, i'm windoze here, but pastebin has a few nice ones
[03:51] <nalioth> MCJedi: do you want to install something?
[03:51] <ZBlach> epiloc, try proftpd
[03:51] <yoink> nalioth, if you look at the pastebin you would see the error message
[03:51] <nalioth> epiloc: kftpgrabber
[03:51] <nalioth> epiloc: woops, not a server
[03:51] <Xi> might I be able to find how to boot the power pc live cd on a Powerbook G3 (pismo) ?
[03:51] <MCJedi> want to install epic
[03:51] <ZBlach> epiloc, ignore me. except this message
[03:52] <yoink> ZBlach, how do i know whether one sample is better than another?
[03:52] <ZBlach> yoink, try one, and if you get fewer errors: its better
[03:52] <nalioth> yoink: first. remove mirrormax. it no longer is supported
[03:52] <epiloc> ZBlach: proftpd easy to configure?
[03:52] <nalioth> !info epic
[03:52] <ZBlach> epiloc, yes, but no gui. sorry
[03:52] <MCJedi> !info epic
[03:53] <yoink> nalioth, you still arent looking...i dont have mirrormax
[03:53] <epiloc> ZBlach:  I have been messing with it for a bit but still cant connect from a diff on my lan
[03:53] <nalioth> !info epic4
[03:53] <ubotu> epic4: (epic irc client, version 4), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:2.0-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 427 kB, Installed size: 1368 kB
[03:53] <tristanmike> yoink, it looks like it's looking for the source packages but you have them commented out. Uncomment them, then "sudo apt-get update" see if that helps
[03:53] <nalioth> MCJedi: enable all your sources
[03:53] <ZBlach> my access point reads all zeroes. how can I force an address?
[03:53] <nalioth> yoink: the pastebin you showed me has mirrormax
[03:53] <yoink> tristanmike, you need the source packages for backports to work?
[03:53] <nalioth> yoink: no you do not
[03:53] <durt> what mode should i use for burning isos?
[03:54] <svref> How much disk space does a default Ubuntu install take?  I have a 2.1 GB drive, &and& a 1.1 GB drive!  (puffs up chest)
[03:54] <cius> hello, I have a question about linux drivers
[03:54] <ZBlach> svref, you're better off tattooing linux to yourself.
[03:54] <yoink> nalioth, the word mirrormax is not in my sources.list
[03:54] <tristanmike> yoink, I can't say either way, but you can try it to see if it helps.
[03:54] <lakin> What are the reasons that modprobe produces an error similar to: Operation not permitted
[03:54] <ZBlach> lakin, sudo it
[03:55] <Xi> might I be able to find how to boot the power pc live cd on a Powerbook G3 (pismo) ? (bump) anyone take this?
[03:55] <svref> ZBlach: okay, so a new HD is in my future... but how much space am I aiming for here?  4GB?  8GB?
[03:55] <durt> lakin, try insmod
[03:55] <ZBlach> svref, i'm using 30 for mine
[03:55] <lakin> ZBlach, I am.
[03:55] <ZBlach> well, 29 and 1 for swap sace
[03:55] <ZBlach> **space
[03:55] <lakin> durt, Same error for insmod
[03:55] <cius> I'm looking for drivers for my onboard sound (intel) but they only offer drivers for Red Hat, SuSe and Novell.
[03:55] <svref> ZBlach: but how much of that is "in use"?
[03:55] <nalioth> yoink: backports and extras are down atm
[03:55] <durt> lakin, sudo -s, then do the modprobing
[03:56] <nalioth> yoink: try later
[03:56] <cius> Which of those would I need to get for ubuntu hoary?
[03:56] <ZBlach> svref, before i replatformed? about 80%
[03:56] <lakin> durt, same error.
[03:56] <ZBlach> svref, seriously. space is dirt-cheap. pickup a 300G hdd for 200$
[03:56] <durt> lakin, do you have the kernel headers installed?
[03:56] <svref> ZBlach: and how much of the 23.2GB is actual Ubuntu system files, versus .mp3s or something.
[03:56] <lakin> durt, yes
[03:57] <svref> ZBlach: this is charity work, and I'm not able to spend money on it, so its an issue of digging drives out of parts bins.
[03:57] <ZBlach> svref, that was all linux and lin-programs. everything else (mp3, manga, games) was on other drives
[03:57] <yoink> nalioth, k....im tellin ya, i dont have mirrormax repos.....:)
[03:57] <lakin> root@zedd:~# dpkg -l | grep headers | grep `uname -r`
[03:57] <lakin> ii  linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8                 2.6.12-9.19                       Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on AMD K8
[03:57] <ZBlach> svref. a noble cause. 2.1 gig should handle most things you can throw at it
[03:57] <yoink> tristanmike, uncommenting didnt help fyi
[03:58] <nalioth> yoink: you dont have mirrormax. but you do have unsupported repos
[03:58] <nalioth> yoink: which are down atm
[03:58] <lakin> Could there be module specific reasons for something like that?
[03:58] <ZBlach> alright. i'm running.
[03:58] <tristanmike> hmm, I updated, they only one I have commented is the planetmirror one, and I get no errors
[03:58] <durt> lakin, sorry i dont know :(
[03:58] <chimpee> what particular advantage does ubuntu have over slackware?
[03:58] <esac> evolution-data-server-1.4 is taking up 63.9 MiB and evolution-alarm-notify is taking up 55.8 MiB. Does anybody know how I can get rid of those ? I don't even have evolution open
[03:58] <lakin> durt, thanks for trying.
[03:58] <yoink> nalioth, ok, just so we're clear...so i have little chance of getting the jre package or anything like that atm?
[03:58] <durt> chimpee, its easier to get hardware working
[03:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell yoink about javadeb
[03:59] <svref> Can people tell me how many gigs their system partition(s) are taking with a desktop install?  I'm taking a survey...
[03:59] <lakin> ubotu: tell lakin about javadeb
[03:59] <chimpee> durt, hmm considering i'm installing on a compaq laptop, that's a pretty big plus
[04:00] <Trashcan> svref: 14.37/17.84gb free
[04:00] <Trashcan> so about 3.5gb
[04:00] <svref> Trashcan: christ!  :/
[04:00] <Trashcan> haha
[04:00] <durt> chimpee, although the latest slackware ships with the 2.6 kernel - it might be better than before, im actually burning the disk now
[04:00] <cius> what would be the primary difference between audio drivers for different distros?  (red hat vs suse, etc)
[04:00] <Trashcan> i've yet to drop all those freakin games, though
[04:01] <nate_> anyone know how to fix audio, it doesnt work
[04:01] <nalioth> ubotu: sound
[04:01] <ubotu> well, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[04:01] <cius> mine works, but only out of my front, center, and woofer channels
[04:01] <solidgroove> my usb wifi only works with ubuntu
[04:01] <svref> Trashcan: oh so your system / takes about 3.5gig?  That's not so bad then.  I thought you said it was 14GB...
[04:01] <Trashcan> haha, no
[04:01] <solidgroove> even if I recompile the kernel on another distro
[04:02] <esac> .. /usr 2.7G, /etc 38M, /sbin 9.7M, /bin 4.0M, /lib 130M, /var 1.2G  .. anything else im missing svref ?
[04:02] <anethema> hey ive gotta question for a more linux/alsa guru
[04:02] <dmlinux> hey guys
[04:02] <anethema> ive got dmix set up, and xmms uses it fine when you pick 'default sound device' in the alsa config
[04:02] <anethema> but if you pick hw:0,0
[04:02] <dmlinux> what are the benefits of Gentoo Vs Ubuntu
[04:02] <svref> esac: that's what I needed, thanks
[04:02] <anethema> or whatever, it doesnt work, says sound dev is in use
[04:02] <anethema> anyone know what i can put into other alsa things to make it work?
[04:03] <dmlinux> what are the benefits of Gentoo Vs Ubuntu
[04:03] <nate_> anyone wanna help me troubleshoot sound issues with ubuntu 5.10?
[04:03] <nate_> I cannotr get any form of sound
[04:03] <nate_> it's on the right device
[04:05] <nalioth> nate_: did you see the link for fixing sound?
[04:05] <esac> dmlinux: this isn't a philosophical channel :)
[04:05] <aven> hey
[04:05] <aven> anyone know where the ubuntu's command promt is?
[04:05] <nalioth> dmlinux: join #ubuntu-offtopic or #freenode and ask
[04:05] <nalioth> aven: applications > system tools > terminal
[04:06] <dmlinux> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:06] <aven> ahh, thanks
[04:07] <Thunderguy> aven: a command prompt? ctrl-alt-f1-f6, or ctrl-alt-f7 to go back to your Xserver, other then that on the applications menu it's there somewhere.
[04:08] <epiloc> how do i confugre home directories and set up users/pw with proftpd?
[04:08] <aven> thanks thunderguy
[04:08] <nate_> no I did not see the link nalioth
[04:08] <Thunderguy> Sure.
[04:09] <nate_> co9uld someone give me the look on how to fix audio
[04:10] <nate_> hello
[04:11] <KlinkMeister> whats wrong with it?
[04:11] <nate_> it dont work
[04:11] <nate_> and
[04:12] <nate_> the right device is set
[04:12] <nalioth> !tell nate_ about sound
[04:12] <nate_> and I installed all the
[04:12] <esac> does anybody know how to make everything 1-click to open/select (like mac). i've got it in nautilus, but it doesn't seem to work for file open dialogs and other programs
[04:12] <remyforbes777> ..
[04:12] <nate_> multimedia encodes
[04:12] <anethema> nate: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[04:12] <KlinkMeister> there you go that will help what he told you
[04:13] <anethema> no one can help me with my alsa problem ?
[04:14] <nomasteryoda|w> anethema, did you see the debuggingsound wiki page?
[04:14] <KlinkMeister> anyone install unreal 2004 in ubuntu?
[04:14] <nomasteryoda|w> and the post on linuxquestions?
[04:14] <AdmiralSenn> hey guys, I'm trying to run the 'script for new users' off ubuntuforums.org, it's called ubuntusetup.sh... anyway, one of the repositories isn't working
[04:14] <AdmiralSenn> KlinkMeister, I have
[04:15] <nomasteryoda|w> AdmiralSenn, that would be the backports
[04:15] <KlinkMeister> i try to run the linux installer but it doeesnt work
[04:15] <AdmiralSenn> nomasteryoda|w, yeah, I read about that
[04:15] <AdmiralSenn> I need to edit the script, I'm assuming
[04:15] <AdmiralSenn> KlinkMeister, what do you mean by it doesn't work?
[04:15] <AdmiralSenn> that could mean a lot of things
[04:16] <KlinkMeister> cant run the installer
[04:16] <AdmiralSenn> O_o
[04:16] <AdmiralSenn> sh linux-installer.sh?
[04:16] <AdmiralSenn> err
[04:16] <KlinkMeister> yes
[04:16] <AdmiralSenn> sudo sh linux-installer.sh
[04:16] <anethema> yes nomasteryoda|w it doesnt help
[04:16] <AdmiralSenn> and that doesn't work?!
[04:16] <KlinkMeister> i have installed it in othe distros but never in ubuntu
[04:16] <AdmiralSenn> that's..... not right
[04:16] <AdmiralSenn> mine just went right through
[04:16] <Thunderguy> Maybe he has a root account enabled?
[04:17] <KlinkMeister> ok ty ill try it again
[04:17] <AdmiralSenn> nomasteryoda|w, how do I fix it so backports work?
[04:17] <AdmiralSenn> is it in sources.list?
[04:17] <nalioth> AdmiralSenn: backports are down atm
[04:17] <nomasteryoda|w> AdmiralSenn, you can't...
[04:17] <AdmiralSenn> but isn't there an "official" backports project?
[04:18] <AdmiralSenn> or is that what's down?
[04:18] <primoturbo> does anyone know how to retrive a lost password for nickserv?
[04:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell AdmiralSenn about backports
[04:18] <nalioth> primoturbo: join #freenode and ask there
[04:19] <bipolar> Seveas, ping
[04:19] <chimpee> i'm now trying to decide between suse and ubuntu :D
[04:19] <tristanmike> chimpee, easy, Ubuntu
[04:19] <chimpee> fedora and slackware are out of the picture
[04:19] <ScatterBrain> tWhoever asked about my glxgears/fgl_glxgears Numbers for a Radeon 9200:
[04:19] <Seveas> bipolar, ICMP ECHO REPLY
[04:19] <AdmiralSenn> nalioth, thanks, so do I just remove the ftp2.caliu address?
[04:19] <ScatterBrain> glxgears: about 1200.  fgl_glxgears: about 200.
[04:20] <bipolar> Seveas, would it be possible for you to set up rsync on your repo? I've got a perminant IP and server to set up for it.
[04:20] <Tiggs> how can i change the brown background that shows when the splash screen loads?
[04:20] <chimpee> tristanmike, because i am a software dev, ubuntu may not prove the best choice... i'll give it a spin tho
[04:20] <Seveas> bipolar, not atm, the fans in the server grinded to a halt so I shut it down for now
[04:21] <tristanmike> chimpee, then develop some software for Ubuntu :)
[04:21] <bipolar> Seveas, thats why I wanted to set up a mirror :)
[04:21] <crispynix> chimpee: simple: SuSE for KDE, Ubuntu for GNOME =)
[04:21] <bipolar> Seveas, got a T1 and everything :)
[04:21] <khad> If anyone is interested in test driving a Mac OS X icon theme I am working on, please send me a private message. It is already about twice as complete as any other OS X icon theme I have used.
[04:21] <Seveas> bipolar, too late ;)
[04:21] <KlinkMeister> installing now, thanks im a tard
[04:21] <tristanmike> chimpee, it was kinda a joke anyway, could you expect me to respond any different in an Ubuntu channel :)
[04:21] <AdmiralSenn> KlinkMeister, me too!
[04:21] <shivi> can somebody email me their sources.list file, I am having a hard time to add all of them please email to drshiv@gmail.com
[04:22] <tristanmike> !tell shivi about sources
[04:22] <Seveas> !tell shivi about sources
[04:22] <Seveas> damn you tristanmike :p
[04:22] <tristanmike> lol
[04:22] <Tiggs> ok gdm changed, theme changed, splash image changed, splash brown background, how do i change that?
[04:22] <misterdiff> dang, did hp beef up their support for linux?
[04:22] <chimpee> tristanmike, hehe obviously... i like gnome better.. as i do dev, i don't want to be tied to QT
[04:23] <bipolar> Seveas, well, if you remember it next time you boot your server up.... :p
[04:23] <misterdiff> i just installed a multifunction machine in a matter of seconds
[04:23] <Seveas> Tiggs, system -> prefs -> desktop background
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> misterdiff: over the last few years, certainly
[04:23] <Seveas> Tiggs, change the color there
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> HP have very good linux support
[04:23] <Seveas> bipolar, i'll try :)
[04:23] <misterdiff> that's even quicker than in windows
[04:23] <Tiggs> its blue, but i still have a brown screen when it loads splash
[04:23] <Tiggs> do i need to change that as root perhaps?
[04:24] <AdmiralSenn> !tell AdmiralSenn about backports
[04:24] <altname> How do I make the login screen be the same resolution & refresh rate as my desktop
[04:24] <esac> does anybody know a good editor for c# in linux ?
[04:24] <Seveas> esac, vim
[04:24] <lakin> esac: monodevelop?
[04:25] <Tiggs> esac kdedevelop?
[04:25] <lakin> esac, apparently eclipse has a module for it as well.
[04:25] <esac> i tried eclipse, not really liking it
[04:25] <altname> what's the url to order the cds for ubuntu?
[04:25] <AdmiralSenn> okay, the script still isn't working
[04:26] <Tiggs> ok i think i got it
[04:26] <lakin> altname, have you tried asking google?  Historically google is quite good at remembering urls
[04:26] <esac> gonna give monodevelop a shot since it was written directly for c#
[04:26] <altname> nvm found it shipit.ubuntu.com
[04:26] <AdmiralSenn> 99% [Connecting to ftp2.caliu.info (147.83.29.16)] 
[04:26] <AdmiralSenn> it's stuck there
[04:26] <AdmiralSenn> 
[04:26] <esac> Tiggs: so change it
[04:26] <AdmiralSenn> whoa
[04:26] <AdmiralSenn> wait a minute
[04:26] <esac> tiggs: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050926#3
[04:27] <AdmiralSenn> erm
[04:27] <AdmiralSenn> I've changed /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:27] <AdmiralSenn> commented out the ftp2.caliu addresses and added the official backports line from the wiki page
[04:27] <AdmiralSenn> but it's still  looking for caliu
[04:28] <cius> anyone know how to get an Intel ICH5's  surround functionality to work properly?
[04:28] <nomasteryoda|w> AdmiralSenn, the script must be looking for it
[04:28] <cius> damn rear channel is silent as my dead grandmother
[04:28] <cius> sound debug wiki didn't help
[04:28] <AdmiralSenn> ah
[04:28] <AdmiralSenn> here it is
[04:28] <HatchLing> So, er...  I installed Ubuntu (hoary), and it asked me to configure a user, but never a root password...
[04:28] <HatchLing> So how do I do things that require root privs?
[04:29] <AdmiralSenn> it's using a sources.list from ubuntuforums.org
[04:29] <vengeful> hatchling, sudo
[04:29] <tristanmike> cius, try alsamixer but play around with the "Wave" settings
[04:29] <Seveas> !tell HatchLing about sudo
[04:29] <HatchLing> vengeful: It still asks me for a password.
[04:29] <vengeful> yes same as user pass] 
[04:30] <esac> anybody know why amaroK would disappear from the menu? if i type amarok in a shell it works. the applications menu editor shows that it should be there and enabled ... ?
[04:30] <cius> tristanmike, I've played around with alsamixer till I'm sick in the head and I can't get the rear channels to peep
[04:30] <mahangu_> can i set transparency on windows?
[04:30] <mahangu_> esac, what do you use to edit app menus?
[04:30] <AdmiralSenn>  bah
[04:31] <esac> mahangu_: applications->system tools->applications menu editor
[04:31] <eolo> HatchLing: You write "sudo" before the command you want to execute with root rivileges and you enter your password when it asks for...
[04:31] <eolo> (in ubuntu)
[04:31] <tristanmike> cius, I couldn't either, untill I played with "Wave", I would never have even touched it untill, well, unitll I came here
[04:31] <esac> mahangu_: aka smeg i guess
[04:31] <mahangu_> esac, i don't have it, must be b/c im still on hoary
[04:32] <cius> tristanmike, I'm just looking at it now and it appears I don't even have a "wave" option...
[04:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mahangu_ about smeg
[04:33] <mahangu_> nalioth, what's that backports URI again?
[04:33] <natedogg> I did everything in the unoffical guide to fix sound, didn't work. My computer Is a laptop if this helps.
[04:33] <aven> hi
[04:33] <aven> doesn't ubuntu come with 'make'?
[04:33] <AdmiralSenn> well...
[04:33] <natedogg> anyone have any ideas?
[04:33] <AdmiralSenn> in any case, the script is useless to me
[04:33] <nalioth> aven: install "build-essential"
[04:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mahangu_ about backports
[04:34] <tristanmike> cius, I have "Wave", "Wave Surnd" and other stuff like that, untill I raised the bar on those, I had no rear speakers
[04:34] <natedogg> can't get sound to work, please help
[04:34] <cius> tristanmike, I'll try to play around some more.  I have a lot of different settings in there, but none of them say anything about wave.  I'll look again though, just to make sure.
[04:34] <aven> nalioth, http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=build-essential ?
[04:34] <vengeful> made sure its not muted i take it
[04:35] <lakin> so how do I tell ubotu a new tidbit of knowledge: Specifically that when you get the Operation not permitted for inserting the ndiswrapper, it's because you've probably installed the improper driver.  /me smacks himself
[04:35] <cius> tristanmike, I appreciate your help.
[04:35] <vengeful> otherwise..no clue ;-_
[04:35] <tristanmike> cius, np
[04:35] <s3[mn] rain> I am trying to configure my synaptics touchpad, I got vertical scrolling to work, but I cant get horizontal scrolling to work, I have specified "LeftRightScrolling" "1" in my xorg.conf, what else am I missing?
[04:35] <nalioth> aven: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install build-essentials"
[04:36] <natedogg> I cannot get wav files to work at all, nor mp3 files. I have done the fix sound thing. still no workie. it has my soundcard selected ad the right device, can anyone help meh
[04:36] <AdmiralSenn> oh crap
[04:36] <MadpilotPPC> natedogg, do you have mp3 codecs and such installed?
[04:36] <aven> nalioth, awsome, thanks :D
[04:37] <natedogg> yes, I have all the codecs installed
[04:37] <natedogg> lame is installed
[04:37] <Tortel> ooo
[04:37] <Tortel> xmms
[04:37] <Tortel> :)
[04:37] <natedogg> I tried usingxmms as well as rythym box
[04:37] <AdmiralSenn> crap!
[04:37] <natedogg> I cant even get the files in the sound pref's to play, and they are wav files...
[04:37] <AdmiralSenn> sources.list is GONE
[04:38] <mahangu_> nalioth, im getting unresolved dependencies
[04:38] <KJ> HELLO
[04:38] <KJ> CAN anyone help me about configuring UBUNTU
[04:38] <Seveas> !tell KJ about ask
[04:39] <cius> tristanmike, found something interesting, I've got a setting called Exchange front/surround, its default off, but when i turn it on, my front channels go out and my rears come on...
[04:39] <silent_scream> hi all
[04:39] <natedogg> so nobody's got any idea how to fix my problem?
[04:39] <nalioth> mahangu_: doing what?
[04:39] <silent_scream> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71293
[04:39] <tristanmike> cius, do you have a "fader" button on your speakers, may have to toy with that, it always goes out on me without my knowledge
[04:39] <silent_scream> thats my prob
[04:40] <mahangu_> nalioth, added repo, did apt-get update, and then did apt-get install smeg
[04:40] <mahangu_> it looks for  a python lib and doesnt find it
[04:41] <mahangu_> says to check my sources.list
[04:41] <nalioth> mahangu_: use the installsmeg script from the smeg homepage
[04:41] <AdmiralSenn> okay, can anyone help me replace my sources.list?
[04:41] <AdmiralSenn> somehow it's been deleted
[04:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell AdmiralSenn about sources
[04:42] <nalioth> AdmiralSenn: you can use that one
[04:42] <AdmiralSenn> thanks
[04:43] <AdmiralSenn> oh crap
[04:44] <AdmiralSenn> bunch of errors
[04:44] <cius> tristanmike, AH!  found it! a setting with the obscure name "spread front to suround and center/LFE.  now all speakers work.  But, I though LFE was supposed to be some kind of software surround, not hardware...  maybe I don't know my own chipset well enough.
[04:44] <cius> there was supposed to be an end quotation in there somewhere...
[04:44] <tristanmike> cius, see, that was my problem, like why would "Wave" control my surround, oh well, it does
[04:44] <mahangu_> nalioth, thanks
[04:44] <mahangu_> ubotu, tell lastnode !smeg
[04:45] <mahangu_> wtf
[04:45] <nalioth> mahangu_: it's "ubotu tell <nick> about <factoid>
[04:45] <cius> tristanmike, yea, I suppose the important thing is that it now works.  thanks again for you help!
[04:45] <Trashcan> !tell lastnode about smeg
[04:45] <os2mac> so can anyone speak to the problems I can expect by installing Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 8600?
[04:45] <Tortel> !tell me about me
[04:45] <KJ> hello
[04:45] <tristanmike> cius, np
[04:45] <Tortel> !tell works too
[04:45] <KJ> its my first time to use linux
[04:46] <KJ> can anyone teach me
[04:46] <Tortel> !tell KJ about linux
[04:46] <nalioth> KJ: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[04:46] <DAC1138> !tell KJ about books
[04:46] <astrob24> !tell me about linux
[04:46] <astrob24> !tell me about ubuntu
[04:46] <DAC1138> !tell me about me
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> youguys gonna burn out the bot
[04:47] <nalioth> ubotu: botabuse
[04:47] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[04:47] <astrob24> :) lol
[04:47] <mahangu_> ubotu, tell lastnode about smeg
[04:47] <KJ> how can i share a folder under ubunto OS on a windows network?
[04:47] <GhostFreeman> Can I ssh into an ubuntu system from gdm?
[04:47] <DAC1138> that read wrong
[04:47] <nalioth> KJ: yes you can. use samba
[04:47] <DAC1138> i dont want to "play" with any bot
[04:47] <GhostFreeman> let me make that clear, can I ssh in once it boots up GDM?
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> !tell GhostFreeman about ssh
[04:47] <nalioth> GhostFreeman: if your ubuntu is set up for ssh, yes
[04:48] <astrob24> !tell me about ssh
[04:48] <os2mac> !tell os2mac about Ubuntu
[04:48] <GhostFreeman> I have sshd running in it
[04:48] <KJ> how can i share a folder under ubunto OS on a windows network?
[04:48] <nalioth> GhostFreeman: then go right ahead
[04:48] <nalioth> KJ: linux is about helping ones self. samba is the protocol used to share folders with windows
[04:49] <KJ> can anyone help?
[04:49] <KJ> how can i share a folder under ubunto OS on a windows network?
[04:49] <natedogg> Okay, I have not been able to get sound at all. Nothing when I login
[04:49] <natedogg> Cannot play .wav files or mp3 files. I have installed all of the media codecs as directed in the unoffical guide
[04:49] <natedogg> The machine i'm using is a laptop,
[04:49] <natedogg> The choices of devices I have are: Inel-82801DB-ICH4 (Asla Mixer)
[04:49] <natedogg>                                                       Analog Device AD1981B (OSS Mixer)
[04:49] <natedogg> I have tried with both devices and none worked for some reason.
[04:49] <natedogg> I have no idea why this is happening, I have done everything the Unnofical FAQ said to do to "Fix Sound" I would appericate any sort of help for this, THanks.
[04:49] <CaptainMorgan> anybody recommend a virus scanner ? detector? not sure how it works for Linux/Ubuntu
[04:49] <KJ> where can i get samba?
[04:49] <vengeful> heheh
[04:49] <DAC1138> CaptainMorgan, freshmeat.net can show you
[04:50] <vengeful> Captain...you have to be very unlucky to get a virus in linux
[04:50] <CaptainMorgan> hmm..k'
[04:50] <os2mac> and very careless.
[04:50] <DAC1138> vengeful, in linux, yes, but they can still hide in emails and be forwarded to windows machines on the network
[04:50] <KJ> nalioth:where can i download samba
[04:50] <os2mac> most virii are using windows exploits
[04:50] <DAC1138> KJ, apt-get samba
[04:50] <silent_scream> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71293          that's my prob...
[04:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell KJ about synaptic
[04:50] <mahangu_> list of supported webcam drivers anyone?
[04:50] <nalioth> KJ: google is a great teacher
[04:51] <os2mac> KJ actually it should be apt-get install samba
[04:51] <GhostFreeman> how do I get ubotu to talk to me
[04:51] <GhostFreeman> I need to ask him about Samba
[04:51] <DAC1138> GhostFreeman, buy it a drink
[04:51] <vengeful> give him a sandwich
[04:51] <natedogg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71303 anyone help me with my post
[04:51] <nomasteryoda|w> !tell GhostFreeman about samba
[04:51] <nomasteryoda|w> like that
[04:51] <KJ> how is that nalioth?
[04:51] <os2mac> !tell GhostFreeman about synaptic
[04:52] <nalioth> KJ: you ask uncle google "samba howto" and learn
[04:52] <KJ> does samba works on redhat too?
[04:52] <nalioth> KJ: samba works on all *nix
[04:53] <mahangu_> nalioth, web cam drivers supported by ubuntu?
[04:53] <yaaar> word
[04:53] <nalioth> mahangu_: some are
[04:53] <yaaar> i'm having a dumb problem.....i can't seem to get my fat32 hard drive to mount read-write
[04:53] <GhostFreeman> man, I haven't used this system in ages
[04:53] <mahangu_> nalioth, is htere a list?
[04:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell yaaar about windowsdrives
[04:53] <GhostFreeman> I still have all those KDE packages I need to remove!
[04:53] <yaaar> i put umask=000 in the fstab, but
[04:53] <nalioth> mahangu_: not sure
[04:54] <mahangu_> nalioth, thanks
[04:54] <silent_scream> !solve my problem
[04:54] <ubotu> silent_scream: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:54] <silent_scream> why are you sayng that ubotu?
[04:55] <MadpilotPPC> !+ubotu
[04:55] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:55] <silent_scream> ?
[04:55] <bob2> silent_scream: er, because you're being silly and expecting a perl script to help you
[04:56] <mahangu_> nalioth, how do install .deb package?
[04:56] <bob2> mahangu_: generally, you don't
[04:56] <bob2> mahangu_: if you have to, sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[04:56] <mahangu_> bob2, im downloading smeg.deb
[04:57] <nalioth> mahangu_: use the script, it's easier
[04:57] <mahangu_> nalioth, what script?
[04:57] <altname> how do I mount my c drive?
[04:58] <altname> pls I need this quick
[04:58] <nomasteryoda|w> altname, it's a XP drive?
[04:58] <altname> ntsf
[04:58] <nalioth> mahangu_: the installsmeg script on the smeg homepage
[04:58] <altname> i just need to access a file
[04:58] <altname> just to read it
[04:58] <nomasteryoda|w> we need to know altname
[04:58] <nomasteryoda|w> to help you
[04:58] <ScatterBrain> altname: do you know which /dev/hdX it is?
[04:58] <altname> yes it's a xp drive
[04:58] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[04:58] <altname> it's drive c:
[04:58] <vengeful> hehe
[04:58] <altname> no idea which dev/hd it is
[04:59] <nomasteryoda|w> altname, does not matter to linux if its c or x
[04:59] <nomasteryoda|w> altname, open a terminal
[04:59] <altname> how do I check
[04:59] <altname> yes open
[04:59] <nomasteryoda|w> sudo -s
[04:59] <Thunderguy> Windows sets Letters to hard drives....
[04:59] <Thunderguy> Linux != Windows
[04:59] <nomasteryoda|w> fdisk -l
[04:59] <nomasteryoda|w> to see which partition it is on
[04:59] <altname> hda1
[04:59] <ScatterBrain> altname: sudo fdisk -l
[04:59] <nomasteryoda|w> or that
[04:59] <altname> it's /dev/hda1
[05:00] <Thunderguy> hd <- hard drive, a <- first hard drive, 1 <- first partition: HDA1 <- 1st hard drive, 1st partition
[05:00] <ScatterBrain> altname: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/[mount point] 
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> mkdir /mnt/windows
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[05:01] <solidgroove> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[05:01] <Thunderguy> /dev <- a folder to keep track of all your devices
[05:01] <bob2> solidgroove: complain on the forums, not here
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> solidgroove, backports is broken
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[05:01] <bob2> solidgroove: or, better still, don't use them
[05:01] <altname> mount: special device /dev/hda1/ does not exist
[05:01] <altname>        (a path prefix is not a directory)
[05:01] <altname> how odd
[05:01] <altname>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[05:01] <altname> /dev/hda1               1        3590    28836643+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:01] <altname> /dev/hda2   *        3591        4809     9791617+  83  Linux
[05:01] <altname> /dev/hda3            4810        4866      457852+   5  Extended
[05:01] <altname> /dev/hda5            4810        4866      457821   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[05:02] <yaaar> nalioth; that script put a pretty weird line in my fstab....i mounted it, and for a minute it acted like it was working right.....i deleted a file from it, and moved one to it....but after those two operations, i can't delete any more files off it. wtf?
[05:02] <nalioth> yaaar: what script?
[05:02] <yaaar> nalioth; the one that the bot gave me the link to.
[05:02] <vengeful> nalioth..why kick him?
[05:02] <nalioth> yaaar: winmac_fstab?
[05:02] <ScatterBrain> Anyone know where I can get w32codecs if not from backports?
[05:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ScatterBrain about w32codecs
[05:03] <yaaar> nalioth; i'd have rather just figured out the fstab line on my own....but it put in a line there, and i can mount the drive, but it's behaving weidly
[05:03] <altname> test
[05:03] <altname> bah sorry
[05:03] <altname> pasted
[05:03] <altname> I can't mount it for some reason
[05:03] <nalioth> yaaar: the script has worked for hundreds of folks
[05:03] <gp_aaron> what is winmac_fstab?
[05:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gp_aaron about ntfs
[05:04] <nomasteryoda|w> altname, dude
[05:04] <altname> yes
[05:04] <nomasteryoda|w> altname, did you type sudo
[05:04] <gp_aaron> I know ntfs
[05:04] <altname> yes
[05:04] <gp_aaron> but what is winmac_fstab
[05:04] <vengeful> altname do it without the / on the end
[05:04] <gp_aaron> a script?
[05:04] <pluffsy> anyone here who knows bluefish? couldn't find this in the wiki: where the heck is the menu (that I guess exists) for speedy access to all functions in the open file?
[05:04] <altname> not working
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> gp_aaron, you know whats fstab ?
[05:04] <nalioth> gp_aaron: read waht the bot sent you
[05:04] <altname> sudo mount /dev/hda1/ /mnt/windows
[05:04] <altname> is what i'm doing
[05:05] <altname> mount: special device /dev/hda1/ does not exist
[05:05] <altname>        (a path prefix is not a directory)
[05:05] <gp_aaron> nalioth: oh
[05:05] <nomasteryoda|w> altname, drop the "extra /"
[05:05] <gp_aaron> I didn't notice the pm
[05:05] <altname> my bad
[05:05] <yaaar> nalioth; well, maybe it's worked for lot's of people.....but when i drag a file to that folder, i get "you do not have permissions to write to this folder"
[05:05] <altname> okay
[05:05] <altname> got it
[05:05] <altname> thanks guys
[05:05] <ScatterBrain> nalioth: Thanks.
[05:05] <nomasteryoda|w> alt do you have a # or $ on terminal now?
[05:05] <Thunderguy> altname:
[05:06] <nalioth> yaaar: is it fat32?
[05:06] <Thunderguy> That appears to be NTFS, I wouldn't recommend writing to it.
[05:06] <yaaar> nalioth; yep
[05:06] <gp_aaron> what is with the backports?
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> Thunderguy, he wants one file from it
[05:06] <nalioth> gp_aaron: down atm
[05:06] <Thunderguy> k.
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> altname, well??
[05:06] <altname> I can't seem to open it
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> altname, because you will not be able to see it
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> using nautilus
[05:06] <gp_aaron> (N)
[05:06] <altname> what do I need to do then?
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> altname, sudo nautilus --browser
[05:07] <gp_aaron> brb
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> altname, default setting for ntfs partitions is sudo access only
[05:07] <altname> i see
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[05:07] <altname> thnx I'm off
[05:07] <altname> sleep
[05:07] <altname> thnx again
[05:07] <vengeful> cya
[05:07] <yaaar> nalioth; i was able to delete one file, and to move one file to the drive. but since then it won't do anything....moving a file to the drive gives the above, and deleting gives "could not move item to .trash_todd. You do not have permission to write to the folder."
[05:08] <silent_scream> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71293          that's my prob...
[05:08] <yaaar> nalioth; if i try to delete the .trash_todd folder, it says "could not delete .trash_todd, because the disk it is on is read-only."
[05:09] <nalioth> yaaar: open a terminal and type "man chmod"
[05:09] <yaaar> nalioth; i am already familiar with chmod
[05:09] <nalioth> yaaar: if it's fat32, change the permissions
[05:10] <GhostFreeman> is ubuntu-desktop an important package?
[05:10] <nomasteryoda|w> but you can only change permissons on the mount point
[05:10] <nalioth> GhostFreeman: only when upgrading
[05:10] <GhostFreeman> well i'm not upgrading
[05:10] <GhostFreeman> i
[05:10] <GhostFreeman> i
[05:10] <yaaar> nalioth; i umounted it and mounted again and it now allows me to delete stuff again.....i just don't know why it spontaneously quit.
[05:11] <GhostFreeman> i'm trying not to hit enter, and i'm also uninstalling all previous traces of samba so I can try again
[05:11] <GhostFreeman> is it safe to remove it?
[05:11] <nalioth> GhostFreeman: as long as you have it for major upgrades
[05:11] <yaaar> nalioth; and what's with this trash folder on the disk? can i make that not be there?
[05:11] <nalioth> GhostFreeman: like from hoary to breezy
[05:11] <GhostFreeman> I don't think i'll be using Gnome for a while on this system, so i'll just pull it
[05:11] <GhostFreeman> thanks
[05:11] <mahangu_> anyone used webcams with ubuntu?
[05:11] <vengeful> what do you use ghost
[05:12] <nalioth> yaaar: the system makes a trash folder on each mounted partition, i believe
[05:12] <nomasteryoda|w> wow... in the past hour 2 more updates are available... lol
[05:12] <dooglus> yaaar: can you cd into the trash folder?
[05:12] <yaaar> nalioth; yeah, i get it....i just don't like it
[05:12] <GhostFreeman> Hoary
[05:12] <yaaar> dooglus: yeah
[05:12] <GhostFreeman> I had samba installed before but my previous success wasn't great so I decided to remove it
[05:12] <dooglus> yaaar: what do you see if you cd into it, and then run this:
[05:12] <vengeful> i meant windows manager
[05:12] <dooglus> mount | grep "on $(/bin/df . | tail -1 | awk '{print $6}') "
[05:12] <mahangu_> my device manager shows it
[05:12] <GhostFreeman> it kept smbclient and samba-common though
[05:13] <yaaar>  /dev/hdb1 on /media/storage type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)
[05:13] <nalioth> yaaar: you dont like that. use kde. it hides trash(es) everywhere
[05:13] <dooglus> what's dmask do?
[05:13] <Thunderguy> Does apt-get dist-upgrade add in the new kernel?
[05:14] <yaaar> dooglus: i dunno....that script made that line. i was used to using umask=000, but that didn't work today for some reason...
[05:14] <dooglus> mount | grep "on $(/bin/df . | tail -1 | awk '{print $6}') "
[05:14] <dooglus> oops
[05:14] <GhostFreeman> I've had the same problem on my FAT32 drive
[05:14] <propagandhi> Thunderguy: it does when i do it
[05:14] <dooglus> dmask is "umask for directories", and it is the octal map of permissions that you do not want directories to have
[05:14] <GhostFreeman> I can't write anything to it
[05:14] <Thunderguy> k.
[05:15] <dooglus> yaaar: what do you see if you "ls -ld ." in the trash folder?
[05:15] <Toma-> anyone know if k-jofol can do winamp modern skins?
[05:15] <nomasteryoda|w> GhostFreeman, can you do it as sudo?
[05:15] <bob2> mahangu_: lots of people are
[05:15] <GhostFreeman> I haven't tried
[05:15] <bob2> mahangu_: you really do need to provide a lot more detail, tho
[05:15] <GhostFreeman> I havent been on this system in so long
[05:15] <esac> does anybody know if it is possible to use fluxbox style tabs in gnome ? any add ins or anything ?
[05:15] <bob2> Thunderguy: depends
[05:15] <GhostFreeman> i'll try with Sudo, though
[05:15] <yaaar> dooglus; drwxrwxrwx  2 root root 16384 2005-10-02 22:09 .
[05:15] <mahangu_> bob2, logitech quick cam zoom, xsane picks it up
[05:15] <bob2> Thunderguy: if you have ubuntu-desktop installed, yes, if there is a new default one, you will get it
[05:16] <mahangu_> but wont scan from it
[05:16] <bob2> esac: that's a metacity thing, not a gnome thing
[05:16] <bob2> esac: you can use metacity with gnome if you like
[05:16] <dooglus> yaaar: I just noticed - you can delete now anyway - so we're not going to be able to work out what was wrong I guess
[05:16] <propagandhi> esac: have you looked at art.gnome.org
[05:16] <yaaar> dooglus: no, it stopped working again
[05:16] <bob2> esac: er, you can use fluxbox if you like
[05:16] <zone17> Hi, how many packages does ubuntu actually contain? Both stable, unstable and so? How can I get a complete overview without searching for a specific package?
[05:16] <esac> err i dont mean style of the tabs, i mean being able to middle click a window and drag it onto another, and have it add it as a tab to that window
[05:17] <yaaar> dooglus: again i was able to do 2 things. i deleted one item, moved one, and now it won't let me anymore
[05:17] <mahangu_> bob2, failed to start scanner - invalid argument
[05:17] <nomasteryoda|w> zone17, huh?
[05:17] <nomasteryoda|w> like why>
[05:17] <nomasteryoda|w> zone17, there are as many as you need...
[05:17] <bob2> zone17: on the order of 15 000
[05:17] <nomasteryoda|w> yea
[05:17] <bob2> zone17: perhaps 2 or 3 versions of each
[05:17] <nomasteryoda|w> 15,000
[05:17] <nomasteryoda|w> +
[05:17] <yaaar> dooglus: the perms on the folder show 777
[05:17] <GhostFreeman> anyways, im going back into Windows
[05:17] <zone17> I found it, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:18] <GhostFreeman> oops wrong channel
[05:18] <bob2> esac: if you want that, perhaps you want fluxbox as your wm
[05:18] <dooglus> yaaar: so what do you see if you "/bin/rm -fr trash" in the parent of the trash folder?  (assuming you want to delete all the contents)
[05:18] <propagandhi> cant u just set Synaptic to list the packages alphabetically
[05:18] <Trashcan> stop talking about trash, its making xchat beep :p
[05:18] <esac> bob2: ive tried it and in all other aspects i don't like fluxbox. just the tabs and grouping
[05:18] <pbutter> hey guys, i just installed a new copy of ubuntu, however its on a real old laptop... how can i make it not so bloated
[05:19] <pbutter> i was thinking about going back to debian sid becuase it runs faster, but ubuntu is so nice, how can i make it go faster?
[05:19] <dooglus> Trashcan: there used to be a guy here called radeon who complained much the same whenever anyone talked about their graphics card...
[05:19] <yaaar> dooglus:
[05:19] <yaaar> todd@todd:/media/storage$ rm -rf .Trash-todd/
[05:19] <yaaar> rm: cannot remove `.Trash-todd//avg6db_f.dat': Read-only file system
[05:19] <zone17> nomasteryoda|w, as many as I need, how would u know? :P
[05:19] <yaaar> rm: cannot remove `.Trash-todd//Audio Books Stephen King - Dark Tower I - The Gunslinger Complete.mp3': Read-only file system
[05:19] <zone17> nomasteryoda|w, the information is for a specific project
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> zone17, i mean as many as you could need.. if you want to use Ubuntu... and can build most anything you need
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[05:20] <dooglus> yaaar: and what about "df .Trash-todd/avg6db_f.dat" ?
[05:21] <yaaar> dooglus: don't you mean du?
[05:21] <dooglus> no
[05:21] <Davey> how can I umount the ubuntu live cd to load in something else? :/
[05:21] <yaaar> uh...ok....
[05:21] <yaaar> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[05:21] <yaaar> /dev/hdb1            244992064 219303440  25688624  90% /media/storage
[05:21] <dooglus> du will show disk usage.  i want to know the filesystem
[05:21] <bob2> yaaar: that's pretty clear.../media/storage is mounted read-only
[05:21] <nomasteryoda|w> chimpee, and apt-get here
[05:21] <nomasteryoda|w> chimpee, and suse
[05:22] <bob2> yaaar: show us the output of "mount | grep storage"
[05:22] <TrekCycling> can anyone give me an idea of where the best place to put a global environmental variable is in Ubuntu?
[05:22] <bob2> TrekCycling: to do what?
[05:22] <yaaar> bob2: so, if it's mounted read-only, why did it let me delete the files right after i mounted it?
[05:22] <chimpee> nomasteryoda|w, hmmm?
[05:22] <TrekCycling> bob2, I want to define where to find JAVA_HOME, CATALINA_HOME, ANT_HOME, things like that...
[05:22] <Davey> anyone? :)
[05:22] <damed124> can somebody help me i got a question
[05:22] <dooglus> bob2, he showed it before.  it's mounted rw
[05:22] <yaaar> bob2: /dev/hdb1 on /media/storage type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)
[05:22] <TrekCycling> bob2, Also add eclipse manually to the PATH
[05:23] <TrekCycling> I'm used to Red Hat and putting it in /etc/profile.d/java.sh
[05:23] <Trashcan> damed124 : dont ask to ask, just ask
[05:23] <damed124> can somebody teach me to install things
[05:23] <propagandhi> zone17: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:23] <bob2> yaaar: ? that seems unrelated.
[05:23] <Trashcan> !tell damed124 about packages
[05:23] <yaaar> bob2: what seems unrelated? that's the output of the command you asked me to run...
[05:23] <bob2> yaaar: ls -ld /media/storage/.Trash-todd//avg6db_f.dat
[05:23] <dooglus> bob2: I don't think that's unrelated.  that's the device his trash is on, I think
[05:24] <bob2> TrekCycling: /etc/bash.bashrc or so
[05:24] <Zealot> hello?
[05:24] <Zealot> jo
[05:24] <yaaar> bob2: -r--r--r--  1 root root 34786 2005-05-09 01:51 /media/storage/.Trash-todd//avg6db_f.dat
[05:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell damed124 about synaptic
[05:24] <bob2> damed124: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:24] <TrekCycling> also, anyone know where to find mysql? I'm using Colony 5 and it's not in the repositories
[05:24] <bob2> TrekCycling: sure it is
[05:24] <Zealot> so is there a way you can raise the resolution above 1024x768?!
[05:24] <bob2> TrekCycling: mysql-server
[05:24] <pluffsy> how do you people jump between functions in kate, gedit or bluefish?
[05:24] <bob2> Zealot: of course...http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Zealot about fixres
[05:24] <pluffsy> functions in the source that is...
[05:24] <bob2> pluffsy: by using emacs
[05:24] <Zealot> thanks guys!
[05:25] <dooglus> pluffsy: get a proper editor!
[05:25] <bob2> yaaar: ls -ld /media/storage/.Trash-todd/
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> pluffsy, ah those are not source editors
[05:25] <TrekCycling> I can't find it under "Add Applications"
[05:25] !alindeman:*! Regional server split; affected users ~ 365
[05:25] <Colloid> when's breezy due?
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> TrekCycling, use synaptic
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> Colloid, 13th
[05:25] <bob2> TrekCycling: then ignore that
[05:25] <propagandhi> thats weird
[05:25] <yaaar> drwxrwxrwx  2 root root 16384 2005-10-02 22:09 /media/storage/.Trash-todd/
[05:25] <bob2> TrekCycling: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:25] <vengeful> i have the preview on colloid..seems to work fine
[05:26] <esac> this is a general linux question, but is it possible to "copy" the output to stdout to a file. for example, i run "sudo apt-get install fluxbox", i want the output to be saved to ~/installs/fluxbox, but also print output to stdout so that if there is an interactive prompt i can still respond
[05:26] <propagandhi> all the users on the asimov server are going fast
[05:26] <Colloid> esac: absolutely
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> esac, tee
[05:26] <apokryphos> *Colony 5 (and release-date note)
[05:26] <TrekCycling> Thanks
[05:26] <esac> thank you wickedpuppy
[05:26] <nalioth> apokryphos: fix it
[05:27] <dooglus> bob2: how would you go to the next function in emacs?
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> dooglus, ask in #emacs
[05:27] <TrekCycling> Weird that there's a difference between synaptic and Add Applications. Cool
[05:28] <KJ> thanks a lot
[05:28] <NoNick> hello
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> TrekCycling, i never use add application :P
[05:28] <dooglus> wickedpuppy: I did, but he's not in there.
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> who is he ?
[05:28] <MrShifty|lappy> bob2: nalioth said that you're the person to ask about wireless card support
[05:28] <damed124> i still dont understand on how to install
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> damed124, which part ?
[05:28] <dooglus> wickedpuppy: I was asking bob2.  he suggested "use emacs" when pluffsy asked how to jump between functions
[05:28] <mae> whats a good source code editor?
[05:28] <pluffsy> but I usually write code on my mac. and I have a deadline on a php project tomorrow, so I really don't have time to learn emacs tonight even though it's probably a great editor, and I'm trying to learn it.
[05:29] <pluffsy> I just need something with a gui that highlights text, have some way to jump between functions and can indent lines.
[05:29] <MadpilotPPC> damed124, how to install what?
[05:29] <damed124> to install things on ubuntu
[05:29] <TrekCycling> wickedpuppy, Thanks. :-)
[05:29] <pluffsy> wickedpuppy, is bluefish not? is the site bullshitting me :( "Bluefish is a powerful editor for experienced web designers and programmers. "
[05:29] <TrekCycling> thanks, bob2
[05:29] <MadpilotPPC> !tell damed124 about synaptic
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> pluffsy, bluefish or not ?
[05:29] <dooglus> pluffsy: sounds like emacs to me.
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> what am i to make of this question ?
[05:29] <damed124> install like programs and stuff like that
[05:29] <nalioth> MrShifty|lappy: guess bob2 aint here atm (he knows everything)
[05:29] <MadpilotPPC> damed124, see the msg you just got from ubotu, it's got a good URL in it...
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> pluffsy, bluefish = web editor ... do you code java in dreamweaver ?
[05:30] <Rylie> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <MadpilotPPC> wickedpuppy, Bluefish itself is now coded in Bluefish, according to their own website...
[05:30] <DavidLeeRoth> its easy apt-get install dist-upgrade
[05:30] <DavidLeeRoth> thats it
[05:30] <Zealot> i went through the xserv thingy but nothing happened
[05:30] <Zealot> it still wont let me go above 1024
[05:30] <pluffsy> dooglus: but it seems like I would have to learn atleast 30 short cuts to get anything done :p seems a bit much for an evening. damn... maybe that's the only way on linux.
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> no kid ... well guess you can do mysql in notepad too .. but who does ?
[05:30] <vengeful> whats your q mrshifty..im no where near as good as bob2 but i managed to get it working on 3 systems
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> pluffsy, why you need to jump to functions ??? won't scroll down do the job ?
[05:31] <Babbage> Hello, I don't seem to get /dev/scd0 appearing any more, even when there is a CD in the drive.   Have I screwed up (1) udev (2) hotplug or (3) something else?
[05:31] <propagandhi> Zealot: whats your max resolution
[05:31] <dooglus> pluffsy: you don't need to learn anything - just use the gui
[05:31] <Zealot> well it says its 1024x768
[05:31] <nalioth> Zealot: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the resolutions you want
[05:31] <damed124> thanks everybody who helped me
[05:31] <propagandhi> Zealot: yeah but what resolution are you seeking
[05:32] <fivre> Hey, I remember having a script that would automatically detect, mount, add to /etc/fstab, and set to mount at startup all available partitions. Does anyone know where to find it?
[05:32] <Zealot> 1152x8something, i dont remember the exact number
[05:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fivre about ntfs
[05:32] <NoNick> fivre : Google
[05:32] <Zealot> i went through this xserver thingy
[05:32] <Zealot> and nothing happened
[05:32] <nalioth> Zealot: i just sent you a command to try
[05:32] <propagandhi> well you'd need to know what resolution you want
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> Zealot, does your graphics card support those numbers ???
[05:33] <Babbage> Zealot, probably 864 if it's a 4:3 aspect ratio
[05:33] <Zealot> yeah
[05:33] <Zealot> i used to use it on windows
[05:33] <fivre> thanks nalioth
[05:33] <Gorth> !multimedia
[05:33] <ubotu> it has been said that multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[05:33] <pluffsy> wickedpuppy, well I can, but it takes hell of a lot more time having to scroll by hand every time I switch function. having to remember in which order the functions are in the file, etc.
[05:33] <yaaar> man this is ridiculous. does anybody have any clue why when i mount this fat32 drive i can delete 1 file, and then it starts acting like it's read-only?
[05:33] <Toma-> how do u list what files came with a deb package?
[05:33] <Zealot> what is the PCI bus idenitfier and how do i find out what it is?
[05:33] <Colloid> i'm excited for breezy, is it sexier?
[05:33] <pluffsy> should I use xemacs or emacs?
[05:33] <Colloid> any change to the wireless support for lappys
[05:33] <Babbage> yaaar, does "mount" say that it IS read-only?
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> pluffsy, if you have too much functions in one file ... it means you need to break it to header files
[05:34] <MadpilotPPC> Colloid, wireless has gotten a lot better overall in Breezy, apparently
[05:34] <dooglus> pluffsy: it doesn't matter
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> pluffsy, pls ... try both and choose what you want
[05:34] <Zealot> so does anyone know what i can do
[05:34] <Babbage> pluffsy, why not just use tags?
[05:34] <propagandhi> breezy does have some graphical enhancements, but its not just the look that gets better
[05:34] <Colloid> MadpilotPPC: apparantly?
[05:34] <Zealot> how do i find what the pci bus identifier is
[05:34] <pluffsy> dooglus, thanks.
[05:34] <Babbage> !lspci
[05:34] <ubotu> Babbage: What?
[05:34] <MadpilotPPC> apparently, then... ;)
[05:34] <Davey> umount you bastid!
[05:34] <pluffsy> Babbage, sorry?
[05:34] <yaaar> Babbage: no. and like i said, it lets me delete one file each time i mount it. then....no more
[05:34] <Zealot> or the video card bus identifier
[05:34] <Babbage> Zealot, use lspci
[05:34] <dooglus> (well, it does kind of matter, but not to you)
[05:34] <Zealot> what is that and how do i use it :P
[05:34] <calc> Zealot: run it at command line
[05:35] <Babbage> yaaar, what does /var/log/messages tell you about what is happening?
[05:35] <calc> it ls the pci bus
[05:35] <calc> like ls for the fs
[05:35] <Babbage> Hello, I don't seem to get /dev/scd0 appearing any more, even when there is a CD in the drive.   Have I screwed up (1) udev (2) hotplug or (3) something else?
[05:35] <calc> eg
[05:35] <calc> 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]  (Secondary)
[05:35] <Colloid> can anyone verify that wireless support is better in breezy?
[05:35] <propagandhi> i cna
[05:35] <propagandhi> can
[05:35] <Zealot> but i still cant get my resolution to go any higher
[05:35] <calc> Colloid: for small values of better yes
[05:35] <nalioth> Colloid: of course it is
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> Babbage, cd is cdrom0 cdrom1 ??
[05:35] <Davey> Colloid, it doesn't detect my laptop NIC, need ndiswrapper for that
[05:36] <durt> i cant say its any different colloid
[05:36] <calc> aiui breezy+1 will have network manager integration
[05:36] <nalioth> Zealot: when you run the dpkg-reconfigure, do you see the section for resolutions?
[05:36] <vengeful> colloid theres still no out of the box wpa support atm
[05:36] <vengeful> wep works ok though
[05:36] <calc> hopefully with proper wpa-supplicant support as well
[05:36] <vengeful> even on little unkown wireless cards
[05:36] <Zealot> how do i run that?
[05:36] <Babbage> wickedpuppy, yes, it should be but of course that is (I think) usually just a symlink to /dev/scd*
[05:36] <propagandhi> they've added better bluetooth utilities et
[05:36] <propagandhi> etc
[05:36] <Zealot> nalioth, how do i run that
[05:36] <calc> vengeful: wep of course being less than useless
[05:36] <vengeful> whys that calc?
[05:36] <calc> vengeful: it gives you a false sense of security since it can be broken in roughly 5min
[05:36] <nalioth> Zealot: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the resolutions you want
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> Babbage, mine are pointing to hdc and hdd
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> n ot to scd
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> not
[05:37] <Babbage> calc, not that quickly and it depends on traffic volume.  4h-8h is more realistic for a busy network
[05:37] <calc> vengeful: the only really secure wireless stuff right not that i know of is the wpa2/aes stuff
[05:37] <propagandhi> and it can take days
[05:37] <svref> I'm halfway through an install.  I need to make a swap FILE.  I need root privs to make a swap file.  Ubuntu hasn't asked me to set a root password yet.  What is it until then?
[05:37] <calc> Babbage: iirc the amount needed if the network is at peak utilization was about 5min
[05:37] <Babbage> wickedpuppy, are you running udevd?
[05:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell svref about root
[05:38] <vengeful> calc...if i lived near people capable of that...i think id have problems hehe
[05:38] <calc> Babbage: though i don't remember where i read that, was a couple years ago
[05:38] <wickedpuppy> i am running breezy ...
[05:38] <wickedpuppy> aren't you ?
[05:38] <Babbage> No, I am running Hoary
[05:38] <wickedpuppy> i don't think there is any difference ... unless you recompiled the kernel
[05:38] <yaaar> Babbage: man, i get really strange errors in the log: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2726
[05:38] <Gorth> hey guys
[05:38] <Zealot> how do i tell it to add an asterik to another screen resolution option?
[05:38] <Gorth> when i watch DVDs
[05:38] <Gorth> it'll like
[05:38] <Thunderguy> Is this pre-release of breezy, going to be the real release exactly as it is in the pre?
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> Zealot, use space
[05:39] <Babbage> No, I just installed 2.6.11-1-386
[05:39] <Gorth> pause for a split second
[05:39] <Gorth> every few seconds
[05:39] <Gorth> is that normal
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> billy@wicked1:/dev$ uname -r
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> 2.6.12-9-386
[05:39] <MadpilotPPC> Gorth, the ENTER key is not punctuation...
[05:39] <Gorth> sorry :(
[05:39] <vengeful> calc they have a higher lvl on encryption now
[05:39] <Zealot> ok i added the asteriks to the new resolutions and still the screen resolution app wont let me go higheer
[05:39] <MadpilotPPC> !tell Gorth about dma
[05:40] <vengeful> most people say wep is more secure than wpa..i dont pretend to be an expert tho
[05:40] <Gorth> thanks!
[05:40] <calc> vengeful: you sure you aren't getting that backwards?
[05:40] <Babbage> vengeful, no, they don't say that at all.
[05:40] <yaaar> calc: was thinking the same thing
[05:40] <Zealot> so the xserver program isnt working what should i do?
[05:40] <nalioth> Zealot: uncheck the ones you DONT want
[05:40] <calc> vengeful: otherwise where did you ever hear wep was better?
[05:40] <Zealot> nalioth, do i have to do that?
[05:40] <calc> vengeful: WEP was cracked many years ago its considered less than useless by pretty much everyone
[05:40] <vengeful> a few friends mentioned it
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> Zealot, have you installed the drivers ? changed xorg.conf for the driver if necessary and so on and on ?
[05:41] <dooglus> pluffsy: if you're going to be editing PHP code, xemacs comes with a php-mode, and emacs doesn't.
[05:41] <calc> vengeful: with the right software you don't even have to think to crack it
[05:41] <calc> vengeful: now WPA/TKIP isn't much better than WEP but it is better
[05:41] <dooglus> pluffsy: you can download php-mode for GNU Emacs, (emacs) - but XEmacs has it already.
[05:41] <calc> vengeful: WPA2/AES is secure
[05:41] <Zealot> wickedpuppy, how do i know what drivers to install and where do i get them?
[05:41] <vengeful> ah my router doesnt support wpa2 or aes anyway
[05:41] <yaaar> calc: well, the big crack in wep was fixed a couple years ago. it isn't completely useless anymore....would take a good deal of effort to break into, but can be accomplished within the day or week most times
[05:41] <calc> vengeful: WPA/TKIP was a stopgap measure since AES in hardware takes a lot of processing power
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> Zealot, what graphics card are you using ?? nvidia ? ati ?
[05:42] <calc> yaaar: wasn't the fix for wep to use non standard stuff from eg cisco?
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> Zealot, you are not a newbie to linux ... are you ?
[05:42] <calc> yaaar: iirc the standard wep is still insecure
[05:42] <Zealot> wickedpuppy, ati radeon 9200 se
[05:42] <Zealot> wickedpuppy, sorta
[05:42] <dooglus> vengeful: it goes like this : unencrypted < WEP < WPA < WPA2
[05:42] <calc> yaaar: which was the whole point for coming out with wpa/wpa2
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> !ati
[05:42] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> there you go
[05:42] <yaaar> calc: no, there's a second revision of wep, like around 2002. and it no longer has the unprotected 24 bit section of the key out there
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> read and follow it Zealot  :P
[05:42] <Zealot> thanks obuto
[05:43] <Zealot> ubotu*
[05:43] <calc> yaaar: hmm ok
[05:43] <yaaar> calc: that was the big easy crack. now you have to actually do the brute-force way, which takes a while
[05:43] <wickedpuppy> Zealot, ubotu is a bot
[05:43] <calc> yaaar: ah
[05:43] <mahangu> woo!
[05:43] <vengeful> i use 128 bit
[05:43] <mahangu> wtf it works anyway!
[05:43] <mahangu> yeehah
[05:43] <Babbage> yaaar, those messages mean that your FAT32 filesystem is fucked up.   The Linux FAT32 driver goes readonly to avoid fucking it up even more.
[05:43] <mahangu> dude ubuntu rocks
[05:43] <nalioth> Babbage: watch your tongue, please
[05:43] <mahangu> here i was trying to compile drivers, but i thought wait a min
[05:43] <mahangu> dropped back to the shell and did camgrab
[05:43] <mahangu> presto :)
[05:43] <calc> i just use aes, it isn't going to get cracked anytime in the next few decades
[05:44] <yaaar> Babbage: well, that's a pita. luckily, i have enough space to backup all of it and reformat. you don't think that indicates any hardware problem, do you?
[05:44] <Babbage> cafuego,
[05:44] <Babbage> yaaar, you could just run fsck.fat
[05:44] <mahangu> now to find an im client that supports web cam
[05:44] <Zealot> how do i see what version of ubuntu i have?
[05:44] <yaaar> Babbage: will that work while the drive is pretending it's ro?
[05:44] <nalioth> Zealot: in a term, type "lsb_release -a"
[05:44] <dooglus> yaaar: probably it came from powering down / crashing with unwritten changes.
[05:45] <yaaar> hmmm
[05:45] <dooglus> yaaar: you could try using windows scandisk to see if that can fix it - but backup first.
[05:45] <calc> or /etc/issue
[05:45] <yaaar> dooglus: well....if i had windows
[05:45] <Babbage> yaaar, "DriveReady SeekComplete Error" is an error from the drive.  So you could have a problem.  Try using PIO mode instead of DMA and see if the problem goes away
[05:45] <user_> how to update video card hir in ubuntu?
[05:47] <yaaar> right on. well, it's late round here, so i'm crashing. catch you all later.
[05:49] <Babbage> wickedpuppy, I think my hard disk looks like a SCSI disk simply because it's SATA.    I didn't even know...
[05:50] <dallas> Any tips for getting a Radeon X700 working?
[05:50] <tritium> !tell dallas about ati
[05:51] <mahangu> any debian IM clients that support webcam>
[05:51] <pluffsy> damn my emacs doesn't seem to have default support for php. is it complicated to add support?
[05:51] <adrian_h> OK, how can I get wireless working? "ifup eth1" gives me a "No such device" error
[05:52] <poningru> mahangu: its in the works
[05:52] <poningru> gaim-vv
[05:52] <dallas> OK now that I've RTFM I'd like some help please
[05:52] <poningru> dallas: dude the ati cards will generall give you trouble
[05:53] <tritium> adrian_h, does ifconfig list eth1?  What kind of chipset?
[05:53] <poningru> I would wait couple of days till Oct-13
[05:53] <vengeful> which card adrian?
[05:54] <poofyhair> ouch
[05:54] <Nelo> Ubuntu in a laptop, when typing some text all the sudden other application takes focus. This makes typing a pain any ideas?
[05:54] <adrian_h> tritium and vengeful: ifconfig doesn't list eth1. I have a Dell Latitude D610, which uses Intel PRO/wireless 2915 A/B/G (according to http://rdo.homelinux.org/ubuntu-linux-on-a-dell-latitude-d610/ )
[05:54] <poningru> when breazy comes out its going to have lots more hardware detection (hopefully work was done on ati cards)
[05:54] <CarlFK> Nelo - hoary or breezy?>
[05:54] <dooglus> Nelo: are you touching the mousepad?
[05:54] <Babbage> Nelo, usually that happens because you brush the touchpad with part of your hand or your sleeve
[05:54] <vengeful> adrian...i have the pro wireless and it was detected ok in ubuntu
[05:54] <Nelo> hoary
[05:55] <Babbage> Nelo, so try switching from point-to-focus to click-to-focus and see if the problem goes away
[05:55] <poningru> dallas: also is it just not working?
[05:55] <Nelo> CarlFK, dooglus andBabbage thanks..
[05:55] <poningru> dallas: as opposed to 3d not working?
[05:55] <yarddog> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:55] <dallas> OK what's the default PCI identifier for the AGP slot?  Well I'm trying to get 3D working but now X is boned
[05:55] <adrian_h> vengeful: How can you tell? Does "ifup eth1" work for you?
[05:55] <Nelo> Babbage where do i change this?
[05:55] <tritium> ipw2915?  hmm, I don't know if the ipw2100 or ipw2200 drivers will support that.  I tend to doubt it
[05:55] <adrian_h> tritium: I installed the ipw2200 drivers, on that Web page's recommendation.
[05:55] <Babbage> Nelo, depends on your window manager, I don't know which the default WM is, I'm new to Ubuntu.
[05:56] <crimsun> the 2915 is driven by the ipw2200 driver.
[05:56] <Nelo> ok. thanks
[05:56] <yarddog> that wiki page works
[05:56] <tritium> ah, thanks, crimsun
[05:56] <crimsun> np
[05:56] <tritium> adrian_h, how did you install them?  is this hoary, and you compiled more recent modules?
[05:57] <johnfights> how do you get sound working in ubuntu
[05:57] <kevogod> Breezy does not identify the title of the "Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne" play disc when mounted. Hoary did.
[05:57] <adrian_h> tritium: This is Kubuntu, and I did compile recent modules by following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[05:57] <calc> 2915 is nice i replaced the broadcom wireless in my amd64 with it
[05:57] <Babbage> Which bit of software is supposed to create /dev/scd0 ?  udev?  hotplug?
[05:57] <tritium> ok, adrian_h.  Is the module loaded currently?
[05:57] <crimsun> Babbage: udev.
[05:58] <adrian_h> tritium: According to "lsmod | grep ipw2200", yes.
[05:58] <tritium> johnfights, please provide more details on your sound setup
[05:58] <Colloid> hi i'm ubuntu
[05:58] <tritium> adrian_h, okay, and ifconfig does not list it?
[05:59] <adrian_h> tritium: Correct. ifconfig lists only eth0 (ethernet) and lo
[05:59] <LaptopZZ> has anyone had a problem with the installer for 5.10 locking up at 'checking if image is initramfs'?
[05:59] <tritium> crimsun, heh, I should have read modinfo ipw2200 more carefully ;)
[05:59] <chimpee> i want to start an enterprise ubuntu distro
[05:59] <nalioth> tritium: you in here causing trouble again?
[05:59] <tritium> nalioth, definitely
[05:59] <johnfights> i have a sound blaster live pci card and just installed ubuntu 5.10
[05:59] <Babbage> crimsun, Thanks.    The link is not getting created.  How do I diagnose the problem?
[05:59] <poningru> chimpee: rofl
[05:59] <crimsun> chimpee: erm, there already exists one.
[05:59] <poningru> chimpee: there already is one
[05:59] <poningru> and its free
[05:59] <chimpee> where where
[06:00] <crimsun> the same place you download the "non-enterprise" edition
[06:00] <poningru> ubuntulinux.org
[06:00] <poningru> dude its one and the same
[06:00] <crimsun> Babbage: look in dmesg
[06:00] <tritium> adrian_h, hmm...
[06:00] <chimpee> well if its the same what makes it enterprise?
[06:00] <CarlFK> is there any support (.debs) for cifs?   http://linux-cifs.samba.org/
[06:00] <calc> chimpee: how long they support it
[06:01] <adrian_h> tritium: Does it make any difference that I'm currently using eth0?
[06:01] <calc> iirc 6.04 is going to be an enterprise release
[06:01] <tritium> no, adrian_h
[06:01] <tritium> adrian_h, any clues from dmesg, or any of the logfiles in /var/log?
[06:01] <adrian_h> tritium: What should I grep for?
[06:01] <chimpee> calc: is there a 6.04 preview?
[06:01] <CarlFK> hmm, maybe it is built in...
[06:02] <calc> chimpee: no 5.10 isn't even officially released yet
[06:02] <chimpee> or a wiki
[06:02] <dooglus> Nelo: apparently you can add a line saying "        Option          "SHMConfig"             "on"" to your xorg.conf, in the synaptics section.  this will turn off the touchpad while you're typing.
[06:02] <tritium> adrian_h, perhaps Intel, or ipw
[06:02] <Babbage> brb, trying 2.6.10 instead.
[06:02] <calc> chimpee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[06:02] <chimpee> methinks they should be separate for home desktop and enterprise
[06:02] <Colloid> hi, i'm ubuntu
[06:02] <Colloid> how are you?
[06:03] <kithe> hi, can I make a usb stick too boot the ubuntu installation from as possible with debian?
[06:03] <crimsun> kithe: yes
[06:03] <adrian_h> tritium: The dmesg lines about "ipw2200" look normal, and /var/log/messages looks fine
[06:03] <johnfights> tritium, is there more you need to know
[06:03] <calc> chimpee: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-September/010876.html
[06:03] <kithe> crimsun: and pointing me to a guide or telling me how? I really need it
[06:03] <tritium> johnfights, I didn't see anything from you, sorry
[06:03] <dooglus> Nelo: that's not quite right.  but read here, under "stopping accidental clicks" for details: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad
[06:04] <CarlFK> hmm, case anyone wants to know, cifs is in //dell17/dvd on /mnt/smb/dell17/dvd type cifs (rw,mand)
[06:04] <johnfights> i have a sound blaster live pci card and just installed ubuntu 5.10
[06:04] <crimsun> johnfights: what's the issue?
[06:04] <Colloid> I SAID HI I'M UBUNTU, HOW ARE YOU, GOD DAMN IT
[06:04] <crimsun> Colloid: chill. Now.
[06:04] <nalioth> Colloid: please d00d
[06:04] <steeltf>  guys what should i do with my life? i know this is a bit off topic but i wanted to be a programmer and so i studied that when i was young but i feel like cage fighting might be my true calling or maybe writing. i dont know guys. im confued. any thoughts?
[06:05] <Nelo> dooglus thanks
[06:05] <Colloid> steelf: become a lizard person
[06:05] <nalioth> steeltf: steel-cage-writer
[06:05] <chimpee> calc nice.. thanks..
[06:05] <CarlFK> steeltf - go beet on Colloid?
[06:05] <dooglus> Nelo: looks like you have to turn on SHMConfig, then run that syndaemon thing.
[06:06] <AdmiralSenn> gah
[06:06] <AdmiralSenn> smeg is giving me grief
[06:06] <chimpee> Dapper Drake eh?
[06:06] <chimpee> what's a dapper
[06:06] <johnfights> i put in a music cd and there is no sound
[06:06] <AdmiralSenn> says it needs python-xdg greater than or equal to .14, but I have .9-1
[06:06] <AdmiralSenn> !tell me about smeg
[06:06] <crispynix> AdmiralSenn: try a menu editor with a less sucky name --- I think GNOME comes with one now. again.
[06:06] <chimpee> 6.04 is a special number for me
[06:06] <adrian_h> tritium: How does Linux know what my wireless interface is called? Is that entirely based on what I put in /etc/network/interfaces?
[06:06] <Nelo> dooglus thanks again...
[06:07] <kithe> anyone able to help me out with making a usb stick for booting ubuntu installation program so I can do a ftp install?
[06:07] <chimpee> i think i'll go to montreal
[06:07] <johnfights> cd player thing comes up but it doesnt play
[06:07] <AdmiralSenn> or.. I could just find out how to install it
[06:07] <crimsun> johnfights: ok, those are two completely different issues
[06:07] <dooglus> Nelo: no problem.  i just learned all that too - I'm about to restart X to try "iPod style circular scrolling" :)
[06:07] <crimsun> johnfights: first, do you have sound outside of using the cd player?
[06:07] <johnfights> no
[06:08] <johnfights> dont have sound in anything
[06:08] <crimsun> johnfights: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:08] <pluffsy> how is curly braces made under linux?
[06:08] <crimsun> {}  <-- ?
[06:08] <HrdwrBob> pluffsy: press shift [ ?
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> pluffsy, the same way as in windows
[06:09] <nalioth> AdmiralSenn: use the installsmeg script
[06:09] <chimpee> dapper is actually a synonym of red hat....
[06:09] <AdmiralSenn> I did
[06:09] <AdmiralSenn> it broke
[06:09] <pluffsy> damn... guess there is something wrong with keyboard encoding then... if it should work as normal (even though I don't know how you do under windows).
[06:09] <johnfights> where is amixer
[06:09] <AdmiralSenn> got it
[06:09] <AdmiralSenn> used the tarball
[06:09] <crimsun> johnfights: open a Terminal and type it
[06:10] <chimpee> who decided to make the next version 6.04 ? why not 6.0 ?
[06:11] <oneifreak> chimpee: its based on the release year and month
[06:11] <chimpee> ahhh
[06:11] <chimpee> smart
[06:11] <yarddog> clever
[06:11] <AdmiralSenn> stupid thing
[06:11] <chimpee> look for "604" ... you'll find a bunch of fluoro blacklight hippies on lsd on the beaches of goa
[06:12] <johnfights> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory
[06:12] <johnfights>  (another problem just found out firefox wont start)
[06:12] <Babbage> Oh, FFS!   If I boot 2.6.10-5-386 then sound and CD work but my GPS device does not.  If I boot 2.6.11-1-386, the GPS device works, but sound ancd CD do not!    ARGH!
[06:12] <BinaryDigit> heh
[06:12] <chimpee> 6.04 should have alot of appeal for the acid heads hehe
[06:12] <MiksuFI> Hi! I was wondering if anyone has experience with a WLAN running on the Buffalo WBR2G54 router and a Ralink RT 2500 pci card. It seems that ubuntu 5.04 does not understand the pci card.
[06:12] <BinaryDigit> 5.10 breey does :)
[06:12] <yarddog> how about 9.10
[06:13] <MiksuFI> haha serious
[06:13] <BinaryDigit> i have a ralink rt 2500 on both my pc and laptop and it worked out of the box!!!!
[06:13] <BinaryDigit> i was so happy :)
[06:13] <tolstoy> I used serpentine to burn a CD from flac files, but when I insert the new CD, every track has the same title.  Anyone else seen this?
[06:13] <dooglus> chimpee: what's the acid connection with 6.04?
[06:13] <MiksuFI> so i should download the 5.10
[06:13] <crimsun> johnfights: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[06:13] <BinaryDigit> i recommend it, if you are doing a new install anyway
[06:13] <MiksuFI> ok thank you
[06:13] <vengeful> depends how hard you wanna work..i guess hehehe
[06:13] <offby3> Hi. Can anyone here tell me how to modify the executable path for gnome applications (NOT ones that are run in terminals, but launched from a GUI launcher)
[06:13] <MiksuFI> btw, if i did try to make it run on 5.04, what should i do
[06:14] <kithe> does ubuntu have a boot.img like debian does?=
[06:14] <BinaryDigit> alot of people suggest ndiswrapper
[06:14] <vengeful> tried google already Miksu?
[06:14] <chimpee> dooglus: someone on acid looked at mailbag 604 and he thought it was "GOA"
[06:14] <offby3> Background (such as it is): I want to run Eclipse.  My JRE is added to my path in .bashrc.  Eclipse can't find that, apparently, since it's added to my path only in bash shells.
[06:14] <chimpee> dooglus: goa  happened to be the cradle of acid heads back then
[06:14] <MiksuFI> vengeful i thought this place had the "free support" tag on it :)
[06:14] <vengeful> its not that miksu
[06:14] <vengeful> its just a specific question about hardware
[06:15] <chimpee> and that's where psychedelic trance music originates from
[06:15] <vengeful> and theres more chance of a user on a forum having it that someone here
[06:15] <johnfights> crimsun, want me to paste you the output in a message since i cant go to that site right now and paste
[06:15] <chimpee> so 604 means "trance music on the beaches of goa on a couple hits of acid" lol
[06:15] <MiksuFI> i apologize. that was the only problem anyway
[06:15] <Babbage> offby3, create and edit ~/.xsession
[06:16] <offby3> I see
[06:16] <MiksuFI> i have this  thought that iwhen i get it to run my wlan the web is there and i do know  how to find help elsewhere
[06:16] <dooglus> chimpee: interesting.  never heard of it before.  http://fusionanomaly.net/604.html
[06:16] <johnfights> 0000:00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[06:16] <vengeful> not a bad idea miksu
[06:16] <BinaryDigit> MiksuFI definately download breezy, you'll be happy :)
[06:16] <offby3> Is that a bash script?  I have a LOT of sub-divided common behaviour for my bashrc, split over a few files -- can I use the same logic?
[06:16] <vengeful> just theres no one here active with same config
[06:16] <offby3> And...  how much overlap should there be?
[06:16] <MiksuFI> i will right now.
[06:16] <dooglus> offby3: are you using gnome?
[06:16] <offby3> And... Will both .bashrc and .xsession be loaded if I open an xterm?
[06:16] <offby3> dooglus, yes
[06:17] <Babbage> offby3, it is an executable.  It gets run.  It can be anyuthing.   A binary if you want!
[06:17] <dooglus> offby3: gnome doesn't use .xsession.
[06:17] <offby3> Ah
[06:17] <crimsun> johnfights: cat /proc/asound/modules
[06:17] <dooglus> offby3: put it in ~/.gnomerc instead
[06:17] <johnfights> BinaryDigit, how do you upgrade to breezy do you need to download a new cd
[06:17] <crimsun> johnfights: (that should not return anything)
[06:17] <offby3> dooglus, then the same questions apply
[06:17] <Babbage> offby3, NO.   .xsession is run to establish the X session.  RTFM...
[06:17] <dooglus> offby3: alternatively, put ". ~/.xsession" in ~/.gnomerc
[06:17] <crimsun> johnfights: you need to compile the snd-ca0106 driver
[06:17] <crimsun> !tell johnfights about alsa-source
[06:17] <dooglus> the latter is better.
[06:17] <pluffsy> I usually do shift-alt-8 or 9. but that produces nothing...
[06:17] <pluffsy> I've selected macintosh and swedish in the keyboard setup.
[06:17] <pluffsy> at doesn't work too... :/
[06:17] <pluffsy> all under gnomoe
[06:17] <fivre> hey is there a good standalone hotkey manager that can do more the default gnome app?
[06:17] <pluffsy> can I make a manual shortcut? like create those chars from the function keys or something? til I find a less hacky solution.
[06:17] <crimsun> johnfights: I just sent you instructions on how to make your sound card work under Ubuntu
[06:17] <Babbage> dooglus, no, that isn't such a good plan, because one of the things people might do in $HOME/.xsession is run Gnome...
[06:18] <dooglus> .gnomerc is only run once, when gnome starts, but its settings will be inherited by all programs run in gnome (if they are inheritable)
[06:18] <johnfights> k thank you i will do that
[06:18] <MiksuFI> wow this channel is awesome :) expect me to reappear with a standalone ubuntu system
[06:18] <MiksuFI> no more ****!X windows
[06:18] <BinaryDigit> woo hoo
[06:18] <vengeful> that was my thought miksu
[06:18] <crimsun> johnfights: when you get to the dpkg-reconfigure stage, it will ask you two questions. Answer "no" to plug 'n' play and "yes" to debugging symbols.
[06:18] <vengeful> you pick up loads of useful stuff here
[06:18] <chimpee> dooglus: oh and look at that.. 604 in 6 < 0 > 4 represents the collapse of the 10 dimensional universe into the infinitemisily small 6 dimension universe and our expanding 4 dimensional universe, hence the big bang...
[06:18] <offby3> dooglus, that kind of concerns me...  I want to have a consistent set of {MAN,LD_LIBRARY,}PATH variables in my gnome apps and terminal apps -- how can I normalize this?
[06:19] <MiksuFI> do you think that my experience with litestep is going to be useful
[06:19] <crimsun> johnfights: and make sure you select the ca0106 driver.
[06:19] <cosimo321> Hello all
[06:19] <BinaryDigit> hi cosimo321
[06:19] <crimsun> johnfights: if you get tripped up, I've helped dozens of people on the forum. Just search for ca0106.
[06:19] <cosimo321> can someon tell me how to open all permissions for files in ubuntu breezy?
[06:19] <vengeful> breezy is nice and easy..id ont think youl have any problems
[06:19] <MCJedi> hello, i'm having  a problem getting ncurses-devel to install, can someone give me a step by step on this?
[06:19] <dooglus> offby3: just have ~/.gnomerc do a ". ~/.bash_profile", and set all environment variables in ~/.bash_profile
[06:19] <vengeful> unless you have some very exotic hardware
[06:20] <crimsun> MCJedi: sudo aptitude install libncurses5-dev
[06:20] <johnfights> k
[06:20] <offby3> Hrm.
[06:20] <offby3> I'll try that.
[06:20] <offby3> Hopefully it'll work.
[06:20] <chimpee> so Ubuntu 6.04 will be representative of Dr. Michio Kaku's 10 to 6 - 0 - 4 hyperspace superstring  theory
[06:20] <MCJedi> sudo aptitude install libncurses5-dev ?
[06:20] <fivre> MiksuFI: litestep probably won't help you much
[06:20] <dreamwave> hi.  i've been trying different distrobutions and i'm thinking of replacing what i have with ubuntu.  is audacity available for ubuntu?  it didn't come up in synaptic.
[06:20] <fivre> other than being familiar with working incode and such
[06:20] <crimsun> MCJedi: nurses-devel is the RPM fashion of naming
[06:21] <crimsun> MCJedi: Debian uses libfoo-dev
[06:21] <BinaryDigit> you need to set up your repositories dreamwave
[06:21] <chimpee> i guess that went over everyone's head
[06:21] <vengeful> i have it dreamwave
[06:21] <offby3> Well, I'll be back
[06:21] <vengeful> so yes
[06:21] <offby3> Wish me luck
[06:21] <vengeful> im on breezy tho...
[06:21] <MiksuFI> fivre yeah i just thought i would build my own "shell" and start doing some useful computer stuff instead of that adom curse on me
[06:21] <cosimo321> all files in /dev are gryed out when I go through file search anywa to make them available
[06:21] <chimpee> dooglus, to hear the sound of 604, go to www.philosomatika.com
[06:22] <dreamwave> BinaryDigit, ah
[06:22] <dreamwave> vengeful, cool
[06:22] <johnfights> when does the final breezy come out or is that not know yet
[06:22] <crimsun> johnfights: ~10 days
[06:22] <nalioth> johnfights: oct 13
[06:22] <dreamwave> i'm using a live preview cd right now
[06:22] <johnfights> cool
[06:22] <offby3> Well, Babbage and droo...(?) ... Thanks.  Works fine, now.
[06:23] <offby3> Ciao
[06:23] <MiksuFI> gonna order that 5.10 final
[06:23] <shik45> need help adding a repo
[06:24] <MiksuFI> any idea about when that would be wise without the delivery problems told off
[06:24] <shik45> i want the backports repos
[06:24] !lilo:*! Update to http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channelexpirations .... added a new technique for 60-day inactivity expiration which may be used occasionally by network staff
[06:24] <dooglus> thanks chimpee
[06:25] <MiksuFI> all of you people thinking of moving to ubuntu full time yuu should definately visit dban.sourceforge.net and get real paranoid
[06:25] <shik45> help anyone?
[06:25] <dreamwave> my other concern is my usb hard drive.  the live cd doesn't seem to be recognizing it.  the usb_storage module is loaded.  any ideas?
[06:25] <AdmiralSenn> okay, now I'm angry
[06:25] <AdmiralSenn> smeg simply refuses to install
[06:25] <LaptopZZ> has anyone had a problem with the installer for 5.10 locking up at 'checking if image is initramfs'?
[06:26] <yarddog> MiksuFI, what has that got to do with ubuntu?
[06:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shik45 about backports
[06:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shik45 about repos
[06:26] <MiksuFI> yarddog that is, if running "free windows" before
[06:26] <shik45> ubotu: HOLLA
[06:26] <ubotu> shik45: What?
[06:27] <shik45> i need help adding backports repos
[06:27] <all4n> hey, I've installed this QT-based application (scribus) in breezy, but find the interface to be of another style than the rest of Gnome. Any way to make scribus have the same style on dialogs and other windows as Gnome?
[06:27] <shik45> i want em all
[06:27] <yarddog> MiksuFI, still, that dban has nothing to do with it, i dont understand your point here.
[06:27] <shik45> and i am on i396
[06:27] <ootput> hi guys, i was wondering if any of you succeeded in getting nvidia to play well with Ubuntu Breezy (preview?)
[06:27] <shik45> *386
[06:27] <ootput> and not the other way round :)
[06:27] <all4n> ootput, not me  :p
[06:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shik45 about sources
[06:27] <MiksuFI> i ran a 8-round prng stream and 35-pass gutman method to be sure that any lab people wouldnt find out of such activity before
[06:27] <ootput> all4n, all hope is lost?
[06:28] <ootput> all4n, or haven't you bothered yet?
[06:28] <BinaryDigit> how does ubuntu number their releases again? by month and date?
[06:28] <yarddog> dban has nothing to do with moving to ubuntu 'full time'
[06:29] <nalioth> BinaryDigit: year + month
[06:29] <shik45> nalioth he helped thnx a lot
[06:29] <nalioth> shik45: great
[06:29] <all4n> ootput, I haven't really tried, but when I try to install nvidia-glx, and configure xorg.conf to 'nvidia', I get a message that my nvidia 'component??' is 7174, while the X is 7676..  and they need to be same or something
[06:29] <wickedpuppy> ootput, its ok here why ?
[06:29] <MiksuFI> yarddog the phrase get real paranoid is the answer. no traces on your harddrive means that when you move to ubunto you can feel safe if you ran it before. on physical locations that is
[06:29] <ootput> wickedpuppy, how did you go about getting it done?
[06:29] <crimsun> MiksuFI: nothing is beyond the recovery skills of those with the time and the money.
[06:30] <ootput> wickedpuppy, it's my first time with ubuntu, so i need an idea to get started
[06:30] <wickedpuppy> i just followed ubuntuguide.org
[06:30] <crimsun> MiksuFI: but this is -offtopic material
[06:30] <ootput> all4n, :( Is this a common problem?
[06:30] <MiksuFI> crimsun matter discussed.
[06:30] <all4n> ootput, I wouldnt know.. sorry
[06:30] <pluffsy> I'm trying to get a swedish keyboard to work on my powerbook. I found a guide for yellowdog, maybe you could help me convert it to ubuntu. Like there is nothing called kdb, are there anything like this: /usr/lib/kbd/keytables
[06:30] <wickedpuppy> all4n, how can QT based prog look same as gtk based programs ?
[06:31] <MiksuFI> so on topic, is it possible to run legacy dos software with ubuntu
[06:31] <BinaryDigit> thanks nalioth
[06:31] <ootput> gtk-engines-qt?
[06:31] <crimsun> wickedpuppy: fairly difficult atm. You can make GTK+ apps look similar to Qt ones, though.
[06:31] <chimpee> why is the Ubuntu Below Zero conference being held in Montreal, Quebec ? Is there a specific reason?
[06:31] <wickedpuppy> pluffsy, System -> Preference -> keyboard
[06:31] <TodFlanders_> pluffsy those are refrences to KDE not gnome which is the ubuntu default
[06:31] <ootput> no wait, that's qt on gtk
[06:31] <calc> MiksuFI: yea
[06:31] <MiksuFI> cool
[06:31] <all4n> wickedpuppy, I dont know.. that's why I'm asking here  :p
[06:31] <calc> MiksuFI: there is a program called dosbox
[06:31] <crimsun> chimpee: targeting North American developers.
[06:31] <pluffsy> wickedpuppy, there is no working keymap for my computer there. as far as it seems. alt-gr won't work.
[06:31] <wickedpuppy> lol
[06:32] <crimsun> chimpee: each conference shifts geographical preference
[06:32] <pluffsy> TodFlanders_, Darn...
[06:32] <wickedpuppy> pluffsy, you already tried adding new layouts then ?
[06:32] <TodFlanders_> pluffsy you may need to use synaptic to install the layout
[06:32] <wickedpuppy> crimsun, when is it coming to asia ? :P
[06:32] <calc> chimpee: to keep US people away due to the extreme cold
[06:32] <crimsun> wickedpuppy: I don't know; I don't make that call.
[06:32] <pluffsy> wickedpuppy, adding new layouts? err? you mean like other than those in that list inside Keyboard?
[06:33] <MadpilotPPC> chimpee, the last one was in Australia; and I've heard that Mark Shuttleworth won't enter the US
[06:33] <chimpee> calc: it should be quite nice around october 30th .. and you can go door to door for candy :)
[06:33] <calc> chimpee: nice being only -20C?
[06:33] <wickedpuppy> pluffsy, i thought the list inside it was comprehensive ... it has most or all of the languages
[06:34] <chimpee> calc: well no a bit colder.. but there should be no polar bears around at that time.. not until november usually
[06:34] <pluffsy> wickedpuppy, swedish is there, two versions. but alt-gr works in neither of those. as far as it seems...
[06:34] <TodFlanders_> wicked i cheed on mine and us is the only one
[06:34] <MiksuFI> wow a solar eclipse in finland today
[06:35] <calc> chimpee: high this week here is 33C :)
[06:35] <chimpee> calc where is here
[06:35] <calc> chimpee: texas
[06:35] <outofpot> lol omp
[06:35] <outofpot> OmptyDompty
[06:35] <calc> was ~ 40-45C last week here
[06:35] <omp> outofpot: :)
[06:35] <all4n> wickedpuppy, KDE is QT, while Gnome is GTK, right?   Would it then be possible to use a same-looking KDE theme to make QT progs look the same in Gnome?
[06:35] <TodFlanders_> heh another texas folk in here
[06:36] <BinaryDigit> omp ~
[06:36] <BinaryDigit> !
[06:36] <ubotu> BinaryDigit: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:36] <nalioth> TodFlanders_: a texan? where?
[06:36] <wickedpuppy> all4n, thatyou got to ask in #kde
[06:36] <gp_aaron> how do you set which os to boot default
[06:36] <all4n> wickedpuppy, will do ..
[06:36] <outofpot> TodFlanders_, who's Texan?
[06:36] <chimpee> calc: come to montreal :)
[06:36] <BinaryDigit> ubotu huh?
[06:36] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, BinaryDigit
[06:36] <TodFlanders_> heh calc your near me based on your hostname
[06:36] <calc> chimpee: when is it?
[06:36] <pluffsy> TodFlanders_, hmm any ideas what I should search for? I tried searching for the code name for my powerbook and simply powerbook. no hits.
[06:36] <TodFlanders_> im up aroound dallas
[06:37] <chimpee> oct 30th
[06:37] <MadpilotPPC> !tell BinaryDigit about ubotu
[06:37] <pluffsy> TodFlanders_, Search for in synpatic, of course.
[06:37] <calc> TodFlanders_: i'm in conroe, not that close ;)
[06:37] <newbie> hello everybbody
[06:37] <BinaryDigit> oh ahha
[06:37] <calc> chimpee: oh yea
[06:37] <chimpee> montreal women + halloween =  spooky
[06:37] <calc> chimpee: hmm maybe so
[06:37] <newbie> just wanna ask something.. =) regarding on how to use this operating system.. =)
[06:37] <calc> chimpee: can we just sleep in the conference room? :)
[06:38] <calc> i can't afford a weeks worth of hotel stay
[06:38] <TodFlanders_> pluffsy is it just a few keys not working right?
[06:38] <newbie> how can I install a software thats not on add/remove programs of ubuntu?
[06:38] <newbie> the software is on *.deb extention
[06:38] <chimpee> calc: i doubt it, especially since it's a holiday inn conf center
[06:38] <pluffsy> TodFlanders_, Only alt-gr it seems
[06:38] <calc> chimpee: hehe
[06:38] <chimpee> yeah where the hell will i sleep
[06:38] <pluffsy> TodFlanders_, Or alt-gr combinations, or whatever
[06:38] <TodFlanders_> i found a prog in synaptic called keymapper
[06:39] <MadpilotPPC> newbie, have you checked Synaptic first?
[06:39] <newbie> anybody??
[06:39] <TodFlanders_> im on a pc so im unfamilar with powerbook keybds
[06:39] <chimpee> ah well.. i gtg... gotta nuke fedora from this box and setup ubuntu 5.10 preview
[06:39] <outofpot> good on ya :)
[06:39] <BinaryDigit> newbie - synaptic
[06:39] <chimpee> wish me luck :D
[06:39] <newbie> I'm on console.. =)
[06:40] <BinaryDigit> apt-get
[06:40] <calc> chimpee: good luck getting rid of the fedora evilness ;)
[06:40] <nalioth> newbie: ask a question
[06:40] <MadpilotPPC> newbie, so apt-get or aptitude, then
[06:40] <newbie> ahh let me see
[06:40] <gp_aaron> fedora is very evil
[06:40] <pluffsy> TodFlanders_, I'm trying keymapper now. if it doesn't work. is it difficult to add a key to the current layout?
[06:41] <TodFlanders_> not sure never had to do it
[06:41] <chemisus> is there a way to install java using synaptics with hoary?
[06:41] <MadpilotPPC> !tell chemisus about java
[06:41] <TodFlanders_> if worse comes to worse just maybe make a new keyboard shortcut
[06:42] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: it's "javadeb"
[06:42] <TodFlanders_> thats not hard as long as the desired action is listed
[06:42] <stevewabc_laptop> fedora is evil well I dont no that we can go that far but it is linux and thats a +
[06:42] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: sun java is no longer in the repos
[06:42] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, right, forgot that
[06:42] <MadpilotPPC> !+javadeb
[06:42] <ubotu> [javadeb]  for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[06:42] <TodFlanders_> pluffsy what does alt+gl do?
[06:43] <AdmiralSenn> gah
[06:43] <AdmiralSenn> fat partition exists, gparted sees it, fdisk -l lists it, mount says it doesn't exist
[06:44] <pluffsy> TodFlanders_, not sure. maybe as ctrl? in firefox both alt-a and ctrl-a selects all anyway.
[06:44] <MiksuFI> finally, i have managed to move the table and stuff so that  the wlan actually runs without breaking up through 2 levels of concrete wall. and in xp that is, vautsi
[06:45] <all4n> wickedpuppy, haha.., it is possible to make qt-apps look more gnomish.. its even a thread on ubuntuforums explaining howto do it  :)
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> lol
[06:45] <MiksuFI> i have a directional antenna and no antenna in the router
[06:46] <AdmiralSenn> man, now I'm pissed at ubuntu for only the second time since I installed it
[06:46] <AdmiralSenn> stupid fat partition
[06:46] <yarddog> im sure ubuntu feels your pain
[06:46] <TodFlanders_> hmm i never realized both did that, sorry i couldnt be more help seen about changing keymaps but never had to
[06:46] <MiksuFI> what use is a fat partition of
[06:46] <AdmiralSenn> well
[06:46] <tritium> AdmiralSenn, really, it's just a weight-challenged partition ;)
[06:47] <TodFlanders_> miksufi its nice to have a fat32 if you dual boot linux and windows
[06:47] <AdmiralSenn> linux doesn't natively write to ntfs, and the other ways don't seem reliable
[06:47] <AdmiralSenn> so I made a fat partition for shared data like my blender files
[06:47] <pluffsy> TodFlanders_, hmm can I somehow create a keyboard shortcut for alt-gr or will I have to do one for each alt-gr combination?
[06:47] <MiksuFI> yeah, but doesnt ubuntu read ntfs which i t hought had enhanced speed in xp
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> AdmiralSenn, you have mounted it ... right ?
[06:47] <crimsun> AdmiralSenn: you could use ext2fsd
[06:47] <AdmiralSenn> that's what I'm trying to do!
[06:47] <AdmiralSenn> mount says it doesn't exist
[06:48] <AdmiralSenn> but gparted and fdisk show it quite plainly
[06:48] <gpd> so I installed kubuntu and now all my gnome fonts and themes are messed up... :(
[06:48] <AdmiralSenn> I'm not trying to hack windows into reading a linux partition either
[06:48] <crimsun> AdmiralSenn: ext2fsd's installation is extremely braindead.
[06:48] <crimsun> you type one command after you click the installer.
[06:48] <wickedpuppy> ok but have you mounted it ? as in mount /dev/<fat> -t fat3
[06:48] <AdmiralSenn> the point is, I have 30 gigs of information I'm not deleting it
[06:48] <wickedpuppy> ok but have you mounted it ? as in mount /dev/<fat> -t fat3 /mnt/fat
[06:48] <AdmiralSenn> wickedpuppy, it refuses to mount!
[06:48] <gpd> the fonts in gnome now appear larger and the toolkit seems to be like kde...
[06:48] <wickedpuppy> something like that
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> any error message ?
[06:49] <AdmiralSenn> that's my problem!
[06:49] <AdmiralSenn> Yes!
[06:49] <crimsun> AdmiralSenn: well, what syntax are you using?
[06:49] <AdmiralSenn> I just said that
[06:49] <gpd> but i cannot find how to switch it back... since the gnome theme manager doesn't change anything
[06:49] <TodFlanders_> pluffsy im not exactly sure what you mean but have you scaned the layout option in the keyboard control panel
[06:49] <TodFlanders_> tab right next to layout
[06:50] <AdmiralSenn> ....
[06:50] <AdmiralSenn>  sudo mount -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000 /dev/hda5 /media/windows
[06:50] <AdmiralSenn> putting it in /etc/fstab doesn't work either
[06:50] <cevizoglu> what's the best free music/techno music creator out there?
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> you do have /dev/hda5 right ?
[06:51] <AdmiralSenn> yes...
[06:51] <crimsun> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:51] <AdmiralSenn> it's inside /dev/hda3, which is an extended partition, and which also does not work using the same commands
[06:51] <crimsun> paste onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:51] <AdmiralSenn> ....
[06:51] <AdmiralSenn> I just did that!
[06:51] <AdmiralSenn> AdmiralSenn fat partition exists, gparted sees it, fdisk -l lists it, mount says it doesn't exist
[06:51] <AdmiralSenn> 
[06:52] <crimsun> you did not show us the output.
[06:52] <AdmiralSenn> /dev/hda3           10948       14589    29254365    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[06:52] <AdmiralSenn> /dev/hda5           10948       14589    29254333+   b  W95 FAT32
[06:52] <AdmiralSenn> those are the relevant lines
[06:52] <AdmiralSenn> 
[06:52] <AdmiralSenn> gah
[06:52] <AdmiralSenn> keep pasting spaces
[06:53] <AdmiralSenn> oh, here we go - partition table entries are not in disk order
[06:53] <crimsun> mount says /dev/hda5 doesn't exist? or /media/windows doesn't exist?
[06:53] <AdmiralSenn> hda5
[06:53] <AdmiralSenn> also hda3
[06:53] <abarbaccia> heyy all - anybody here use f-spot to upload photos to an online webpage?
[06:53] <AdmiralSenn> I made the directory to mount to a while ago
[06:53] <crimsun> well you can't mount the logical extended partition
[06:53] <AdmiralSenn> but I should be able to mount hda5
[06:54] <crimsun> yes, assuming /media/windows exists
[06:54] <AdmiralSenn> it's there
[06:54] <crimsun> what did you use to create the partition?
[06:54] <AdmiralSenn> I don't remember, it was ages ago
[06:54] <Amazon> Trying to configure wireless on my dell inspiron.  It didn't work in the default install.  Any ideas what I can?
[06:54] <AdmiralSenn> probably partition magic
[06:55] <AdmiralSenn> but like I said, it mounted fine before
[06:55] <TodFlanders_> amazon im messing with wireless to on a compaq, what chipset does you card have? you need to know that first
[06:56] <Amazon> Can I query this from my system?
[06:56] <crimsun> AdmiralSenn: does dmesg say anything about the underlying block device?
[06:56] <AdmiralSenn> I have no idea
[06:56] <crimsun> that's where I'd look next
[06:56] <Amazon> ok, I guess I'll have to reboot to windows
[06:56] <AdmiralSenn> a lot of messages saying cdrom open failed
[06:56] <AdmiralSenn> not sure what that's about
[06:57] <TodFlanders_> yeah their is a way to
[06:57] <TodFlanders_> i cant remember how though :(
[06:57] <crimsun> AdmiralSenn: paste dmesg|grep hd output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:57] <poningru> !wifi
[06:57] <ubotu> wifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:57] <pluffsy> damn it. the keyboard control panel crashes and all apps gets a weird button theme. is level three what you use to make alt-gr combinations?
[06:57] <newbie> back
[06:57] <newbie> =)
[06:58] <AdmiralSenn> I'm debating unmounting my swap partition and moving it with Gparted
[06:58] <AdmiralSenn> what do you guys think?
[06:58] <MiksuFI> sweet my set of 5 pc cds has been approved =) i truly wish that someday the rule of the windows will end and all those greedy software companies will come to their doomsday. whats the point of paying for software if there is allready a thousand people willing to do it for free
[06:58] <La_PaRCa> AdmiralSenn, who needs swap?
[06:58] <newbie> uhum,
[06:58] <newbie> newbie Reading package lists... Done...
[06:58] <newbie> newbie Building dependency tree... Done
[06:58] <newbie> newbie Couldn't find package crossover-pro_4.1-2_i386.deb
[06:58] <newbie> newbie ??/
[06:58] <AdmiralSenn> I don't know!
[06:58] <newbie> newbie any clue?
[06:58] <newbie> newbie =)
[06:58] <vengeful> working then, miksu?
[06:58] <fanopanic>  /topi
[06:58] <AdmiralSenn> newbie, looks like you're missing the package
[06:59] <AdmiralSenn> since I have no idea what you're doing, I can't help any more than that
[06:59] <newbie> its on the folder when I run apt-get
[06:59] <MiksuFI> vengeful, i am sort of an anarchist.-transcendelist .. in my dreams atleast
[06:59] <MiksuFI> you know the socialist type of
[06:59] <AdmiralSenn> maybe the package has been removed
[06:59] <AdmiralSenn> and I still don't know what you're trying to do
[07:00] <La_PaRCa> newbie, you need to use dpkg for that, apt-get only gets stuff from the repositories
[07:00] <AdmiralSenn> okay guys, hda3, the logical partition, is flagged with 'lba'
[07:00] <AdmiralSenn> don't know what that means
[07:00] <newbie> ahh I'll try La_parca
[07:00] <La_PaRCa> newbie, if you already have a .deb just do a sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[07:00] <breakthestate> ok my computer is hanging up during "configuring network interfaces" boot after i tried to use madwifi
[07:01] <[klined] > is there a way to install windows on a computer that has a linux partition without destroying the bootloader?
[07:01] <vengeful> logical block addressing heh
[07:01] <AdmiralSenn> well
[07:01] <AdmiralSenn> I give up for tonight
[07:01] <AdmiralSenn> it's 1 am
[07:01] <La_PaRCa> breakthestate, it usually happens if the wireless cant find an AP, so it just waits until it timesout
[07:01] <AdmiralSenn> and I need to use windows to wake me up if I can't get this working in the next few minutes
[07:01] <breakthestate> i'm getting a error insterting ath_rate_onoe error : invalid module format
[07:01] <MiksuFI> anyway, i think that there might be something better to work for than programming for capitalist companies and their victims. how about programming for  the world, and that means _the ones tryl in need_
[07:02] <La_PaRCa> breakthestate, oh, um... well... yeah. No idea then.
[07:02] <breakthestate> La_PaRCa
[07:02] <breakthestate> : it's starting now
[07:02] <breakthestate> i don't have an internet connection on this computer i'm trying
[07:02] <breakthestate> but i can put the cd in my sources list, breezy
[07:04] <TodFlanders_> ok one quick question before i go to bed. If i get a message saying wpa may not be supported by my card would you blame thedrivers or wpasupplicant
[07:04] <TodFlanders_> the card works fine if i dont use wpa in my router
[07:05] <MiksuFI> hey this is fun, how about a "classic ubuntu thong" or a giant sized "ubuntu sleepless mug" =)
[07:05] <dreamwave> well, i'm super impressed with ubuntu.  just listened to some mp3s using the live cd.  but i still need to know how to get my usb hard drive to be recognized.  can someone help me with this?
[07:06] <wickedpuppy> dreamwave, have you plugged it in??
[07:06] <vengeful> hehe well does your card support wpa? i dont imagine theres many that do these days?
[07:06] <vengeful> also remember there isnt any wpa on an out of the box install of ubuntu
[07:06] <TodFlanders_> it supports wpa in windows
[07:06] <vengeful> you have to play abit
[07:06] <tritium> MiksuFI, that's probably more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:07] <dreamwave> wickedpuppy, yes.
[07:07] <dreamwave> :)
[07:07] <TodFlanders_> actually this is on suse on my laptop, i couldnt get it on my ubuntu desktop either though
[07:07] <TodFlanders_> not sure if the drivers were responsible for wpa or not
[07:07] <wickedpuppy> dreamwave, nothing comes out ?? no windows or anything ?
[07:07] <vengeful> you can mess around and get it working
[07:07] <vengeful> but for the difference between wep and wpa..i dont(personally) think its worth it
[07:07] <newbie> la_parca..
[07:07] <newbie> can I pm you??
[07:08] <breakthestate> ok, so how to get madwifi drivers with apt-get after I've put the cd in my sources.list, meaning, anyone know which package i should install?
[07:08] <vengeful> unless you live around a dozen hackers?
[07:08] <La_PaRCa> newbie, yeah?
[07:08] <TodFlanders_> heh vengeful i dont think i do :)
[07:08] <dreamwave> wickedpuppy, nothing at all.  i did try monitoring it with the device manager and for a moment, it showed a 3.5" smart drive.  but then it was gone.
[07:08] <La_PaRCa> newbie, sure
[07:08] <vengeful> how many wireless networks in your area
[07:08] <wickedpuppy> dreamwave, go to terminal .... check ya /media
[07:08] <dreamwave> wickedpuppy, empty
[07:08] <TodFlanders_> i can get 3-4 depending on my positioning
[07:08] <wickedpuppy> dreamwave, dmesg | tail
[07:08] <vengeful> wouldnt worry about it too much
[07:08] <TodFlanders_> none strong enough to connect reliably though
[07:09] <vengeful> just use wep for now
[07:09] <vengeful> until something more official happens heh
[07:09] <wickedpuppy> paste it in pastebin if its longer than 2 ... i am sure it is ... so paste it in pastebin pls :P
[07:09] <vengeful> you have 128 bit wep?
[07:09] <TodFlanders_> yeah may have to , mayplay around alittle more with driver cominations and whatnot though for fun :-), then i will document it :-)
[07:10] <MiksuFI> so dont you think that aes iisn't worth it
[07:10] <TodFlanders_> right now im unsecured
[07:10] <vengeful> sure it id miksu
[07:10] <vengeful> i just dont have it on my router
[07:10] <MiksuFI> ok.
[07:10] <TodFlanders_> disabled enryption to get the card working
[07:10] <vengeful> sure just pop wep on tod
[07:10] <vengeful> works fine for ubuntu
[07:11] <vengeful> make sure its 128 bit tho
[07:11] <dreamwave> wickedpuppy, http://pastebin.com/381319
[07:11] <TodFlanders_> yeah guess i will
[07:11] <TodFlanders_> later all
[07:11] <wickedpuppy> seems like you having error
[07:12] <MiksuFI> you could try to physically reset the router and then try it again. you know, you can systematically try all the combinations if you use that without getting trapped by the encryption
[07:12] <din> gn
[07:12] <dreamwave> wickedpuppy, indeed.
[07:12] <wickedpuppy> dreamwave, can you do this ? lsmod | grep ehci
[07:12] <DrSpin> Fluxbox is nice!!!
[07:13] <DrSpin> why don't I have any icons when using rox or nautilus?
[07:13] <DrSpin> ... the default "page" icon is waht  shows for everything
[07:14] <dreamwave> wickedpuppy, http://pastebin.com/381321  output is at the bottom.
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> you got ehci
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> funny
[07:15] <wickedpuppy> i thought you are missing it or something
[07:15] <esac> is there anyway that i can delay the network starting up until after gdm has loaded ?
[07:15] <wickedpuppy> well i am out of my wits ... my first time seeing this error on live cd
[07:15] <dallas_> finaly got my ATI drivers installed... only took 2 days :)
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> esac, don't connect the wire till gnome is up ?
[07:16] <esac> thats great except my laptop is wireless :)
[07:18] <yarddog> dallas, took me 10 min
[07:18] <dallas_> yeah but I suck at linux
[07:19] <dreamwave> wickedpuppy, okay.  this is weird.  here's what i did.  unplugged the usb mouse and stuck it in a different port.  then, after waiting a minute, plugged in the usb power for the drive and then the usb plug that caries the data.  and it worked!
[07:19] <dreamwave> wickedpuppy, i try to recreate the error sometime, though
[07:20] <peersoft> wish people had suggestions about my 56k modem and why I cant get it working and why it says "unable to open modem
[07:20] <peersoft> brb.
[07:21] <dinda> HOI
[07:21] <dreamwave> wickedpuppy, my last question, and then it's download time... hda2 is my windows, ntfs partition.  is there any simple way to get this mounted automagically or do i have to put my own entry into /etc/fstab (also simple but i was hoping for a gui).
[07:22] <atty> hi.... how cah i upgrade my openoffice from 1.1.3 to 2.0
[07:22] <tritium> atty, install the openoffice.org2 packages
[07:22] <atty> how trinium?
[07:22] <atty> should i use apt-get install openoffice2 ?
[07:22] <tritium> They're actually betas of version 2.0, by the way
[07:23] <tritium> yes, or synaptic, atty
[07:23] <atty> i did try synaptic but it shown nothing.
[07:23] <vengeful> dreamwwave
[07:23] <atty> i did try to update my ubuntu manager but always failed
[07:24] <tritium> what's the error, atty ?
[07:24] <vengeful> what dir do you want it mounted to
[07:24] <wickedpuppy> dreamwave, you need to put it into fstab
[07:24] <wickedpuppy> with auto option
[07:24] <ubuntu> anyone know if the is a way to save setings from a live session to a USB disc
[07:24] <atty> hold on
[07:25] <vengeful> mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/WinXP
[07:25] <vengeful> for example
[07:25] <atty> i try to update again and paste it here
[07:25] <Myrtti> no
[07:25] <Myrtti> don't paste
[07:25] <Myrtti> !pastebin
[07:25] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:25] <peersoft> how do I set myself as root? ;| to be able to write, create directories and files in kubuntu?
[07:25] <vengeful> you use sudo
[07:25] <Myrtti> !root
[07:25] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:26] <dreamwave> wickedpuppy, okay.  thanks for all your help.
[07:26] <bob2> peersoft: sudo mkdir whatever
[07:26] <bob2> etc
[07:26] <wickedpuppy> hey i did almost nothing ... you did everything :P
[07:26] <dreamwave> vengeful, thanks as well.
[07:26] <calvin> does anyone know about gimp?
[07:26] <wickedpuppy> calvin, #gimp
[07:26] <vengeful> np
[07:26] <bob2> calvin: it's way simpler if you just ask your question
[07:26] <calvin> yeah, I was wondering if you knew how to get the histogram to work
[07:27] <peersoft> could htis possibly be why my modem is saying "unable to open modeM" cause /dev/modem/ isnt a directory like i should be/
[07:27] <tritium> calvin, how does it not work/
[07:27] <tritium> ?
[07:27] <ubuntu> hey dose anyone know if the is a way to save setings from a live session to a USB disc
[07:28] <calvin> when I edit the levels it does not change the picture
[07:28] <tritium> calvin, the histogram is just a dialog
[07:29] <calvin> isn't that the equivalent to photoshops "levels"?
[07:29] <atty> it say failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backport .........
[07:29] <atty> W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/libgcc1_4.0.0-7ubuntu6~5.04ubp1_i386.deb
[07:29] <atty>   404 Not Found
[07:29] <tritium> atty, don't paste
[07:29] <atty> orry tritium
[07:29] <MadpilotPPC> !+backports
[07:29] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[07:29] <atty> i'm a new user
[07:30] <atty> how to add?
[07:30] <tritium> calvin, I don't use photoshop, but the histogram dialog is only informative.  You're probably looking for Tools->Color Tools->Levels
[07:31] <dabaR> atty: notice the More infot @ part
[07:31] <MadpilotPPC> !tell atty about repos
[07:31] <calvin> Thats it, thanks tritium
[07:31] <ootput> hi guys, I was wondering where apt-get usually puts it's downloaded packages?
[07:32] <tritium> /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:32] <atty> ok
[07:32] <ootput> The reason I'm asking is that I had to manually fetch *.exe corefonts from a different site as belnet.dl.sourceforge.net/<pathtofonts> didn't resolve
[07:33] <ootput> tritium, do you happen to have arial32.exe (etc.) on your system?
[07:33] <tritium> ootput, no
[07:35] <dabaR> ootput: did you try the msttcorefonts package?
[07:35] <CaiN_SA> can any1 tell me if azereus is in multiverse ?
[07:35] <pluffsy> gaaaah. I'll soon start to cry. it shouldn't be this much work to get alt-gr to work.
[07:35] <tristanmike> CaiN_SA, no, it's in the "extras"
[07:36] <MCJedi> sudo aptitude install libncurses5-dev failed
[07:36] <dabaR> pluffsy: they are very lazy. without a whip, you will get nowhere. Or union.
[07:37] <pluffsy> what is 3d level in keyboard layout options?
[07:37] <MCJedi> i'm having  a problem getting ncurses-devel to install, can someone give me a step by step on this?
[07:37] <pluffsy> the manual doesn't give any info that I can find
[07:37] <MCJedi> couldnt find packages
[07:38] <pluffsy> dabaR, who is lazy?
[07:38] <tritium> !info libncurses5-dev
[07:38] <ubotu> libncurses5-dev: (Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 5.4-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 1009 kB, Installed size: 5156 kB
[07:38] <tritium> it's in the main repo, as you can see, MCJedi
[07:38] <dabaR> pluffsy: the "alt-gr"s
[07:38] <dabaR> they dont like working, in other words.
[07:38] <dabaR> anyhow.
[07:38] <MCJedi> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "libncurses5-dev"
[07:39] <tritium> MCJedi, have you updated at all?  (i.e. sudo apt-get update, or the equivalent in synaptic) ?
[07:39] <MCJedi> will try that brb
[07:39] <deib> hi all, I'm a new ubuntu user, just installed it a couple hours ago on my powerbook, looks great so far I must say :)
[07:39] <tritium> congrats, deib
[07:39] <pluffsy> dabaR: :( I can't get anything done without curly braces.
[07:39] <dabaR> MCJedi: add main. or, alternatively, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl to paste the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal
[07:40] <dabaR> pluffsy: what kybrd?
[07:40] <ootput> can anyone perform a 'locate arial32.exe' on their system?
[07:40] <ootput> I'd like to know where apt-get places it
[07:40] <deib> thank you
[07:40] <pluffsy> dabaR: Powerbook G3 Lombard keyboard.
[07:40] <ootput> It doesn't seem to search for *.exe's in /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:40] <jrr> is there a *proper* way for me to roll my own kernel?
[07:40] <pluffsy> dabaR: swedish too :p
[07:40] <dabaR> nalioths_dog: ping
[07:40] <jrr> ootput: i just joined, but why are you looking for a *.exe?
[07:41] <tritium> jrr, install kernel-package, and use make-kpkg (after reading a bit)
[07:41] <ootput> ms fonts
[07:41] <deib> btw, i have the same keyboard issue :/
[07:41] <dooglus> ootput: use "apt-file search" to find out where apt-get places things
[07:41] <jrr> tritium: i've used make-kpkg w/ debian before, just thought there could be a difference
[07:41] <tritium> jrr, cool, you're well on your way, then
[07:41] <ootput> jrr, msfonts package. The site used during apt-get doesn't seem to resolve, so I had to manually wget the font packages myself. Placing them in /var/cache/apt/archives doesn't seem to impress apt-get
[07:41] <jrr> ah gotcha
[07:42] <jrr> msfonts? it's not msttcorefonts?
[07:42] <ootput> jrr, that's the one
[07:42] <ootput> jrr, I was trying to limit my typing
[07:42] <jrr> gotcha
[07:42] <jrr> speaking of the package.. is it provided in ubuntu? i don't see it.
[07:43] <deib> any mac user out there has any idea how to access "alt" keys, considering that the Alt gr key does not exist in mac keyboards? :s
[07:43] <ootput> dooglus, apt-file is available in which tool-set?
[07:43] <tritium> jrr, it's in multiverse
[07:43] <dooglus> ootput: it's in the apt-file package
[07:43] <dabaR> deib: is there a fn key?
[07:43] <jrr> gotta add that to my sources.list?
[07:43] <ootput> dooglus, ah right, silly me. I was under the impression that it was included in a vanilla install
[07:44] <deib> dabar: yes, there is a fn key. its not working as alt gr either
[07:44] <dooglus> chris@chrislap:~$ apt-file search bin/apt-file
[07:44] <dooglus> apt-file: usr/bin/apt-file
[07:44] <tritium> jrr, if you don't have it, yes
[07:44] <jrr> this sudo bash stuff takes some getting used to
[07:45] <MCJedi> now it says
[07:45] <MCJedi> Reading package lists... Done
[07:45] <dabaR> deib: I would like to point out that I do not have a altgr on my PC.
[07:45] <pluffsy> deib: my question exactly :(
[07:45] <ootput> jrr, yeah, you're telling me
[07:46] <jrr> this apt frontend is nice and cushy. i could see somebody that doesn't already know linux using it!
[07:46] <deib> dabar: i see, aynthing that gets you to third characters in keys, or there just aren't any?
[07:46] <MCJedi> should say yes to removing that package it asks for?
[07:47] <MCJedi> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 996kB will be freed.
[07:47] <MCJedi> [12:35am]  <Fudge> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]  n
[07:47] <pluffsy> dabaR: hmm when I press fn-alt I can make some alt-gr combinations like at but not curly braces which are the ones I reeeeally need
[07:47] <ootput> any ideas where msttfont's *.exe files are located?
[07:47] <tritium> hi Draucon
[07:48] <deib> pluffsy: ah there :) {}
[07:48] <ootput> for example, arial32.exe's location?
[07:48] <bjv> arg
[07:48] <bjv> cant compile scorched3d, :((
[07:49] <bjv> checking for SDL_net lib... yes
[07:49] <bjv> checking for beer in -lfridge... no
[07:49] <bjv> Warning: No beer found in fridge!
[07:49] <bjv> We highly suggest that you rectify this situation immediately.
[07:49] <bjv> checking for OpenGL support... yes
[07:49] <bjv> checking for OpenAL... checking for openal-config... no
[07:49] <bjv> *** The openal-config script installed by OpenAL could not be found
[07:49] <tritium> bjv, no pasting
[07:49] <tristanmike> !tell bjv about pastebin
[07:49] <Burgundavia> bjv, why not just install the version out of the repos?
[07:49] <bjv> :\
[07:50] <MCJedi> dabar http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2727
[07:50] <liboo2c> hello, is it possible to add other applications to the GNOME Panels as the standart like clock or the fish?
[07:50] <bjv> scorched3d online play requires matching versions of the game client
[07:50] <bjv> the version in the repos is quite old,
[07:50] <pluffsy> deib: what do you type? (guess it will not help me and my swedish pb lombard anyway)
[07:50] <Burgundavia> libervisco, just right click and choose add to panel
[07:51] <liboo2c> I know Burgundavia, but I like to add a binary clock to this list
[07:51] <bjv> wait. i _do_ have a pastebin link.
[07:51] <bjv> http://pastebin.ca/21945
[07:52] <bjv> only thing i found from google, but that is exactly my problem.
[07:52] <Burgundavia> bjv, not yet found its way into debian yet
[07:52] <Burgundavia> bjv, 0.39 that is
[07:52] <bjv> well i dont really need that, i just need openal-config
[07:53] <deib> pluffsy: swedish!! thats a tough one :S I use a latin american configuration, and just have to do Fn+Alt+
[07:53] <MadpilotPPC> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Good-evening%2C-Mr.-Gates-800x600.jpg
[07:57] <calvin> is there anyway to change which is the default player of different files types?
[07:57] <nalioth> calvin: system > prefs > preferred apps
[07:58] <calvin> thanks
[07:59] <calvin> nalioth: that only is for browser and mail, I need it for my WMA files to be played in xine and not totem
[08:00] <Penguin> calvin click on a wma file, then choose properties, then open with
[08:00] <dabaR> MCJedi: what is that? is taht what I asked for?
[08:00] <calvin> but do I have to do that everytime I open the file?
[08:01] <ootput> any ideas where msttfont's *.exe files are located?
[08:01] <Penguin> no, you can choose there what the prefered app is
[08:01] <MCJedi> this is what you had said: [12:39am]  <dabaR> MCJedi: add main. or, alternatively, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl to paste the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal
[08:01] <whyameye> is there a way to keep programs from stealing focus in Gnome?
[08:01] <MCJedi> as i'm not able to do any root work on their pc myself, i'm kind of at the mercy of the guy i'm trying to help
[08:01] <bjv> speaking of where a package keeps it's files.. is there an command to list the files contained in a .deb?
[08:02] <MCJedi> i've just shown you what i can
[08:02] <HANIS_IMOET> SURABAYA
[08:02] <Penguin> http://users.skynet.be/pengu/calvin.png
[08:02] <Penguin> do you see what I mean
[08:02] <bjv> like listing the contents of a tar, but with a deb?
[08:02] <Penguin> you can mark the app
[08:02] <bjv> im not seeing any switches to do this with apt-cache.
[08:02] <deib> pluffy: what current keyboard layout do you have?
[08:02] <HANIS_IMOET> BLH KENALAN GAK?
[08:02] <tritium> bjv, dpkg -L <packagename>
[08:03] <tritium> HANIS_IMOET, english here please
[08:03] <bam_> morning
[08:03] <deFrysk> !in
[08:03] <ubotu> deFrysk: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:03] <bam_> anyone using xfce?
[08:03] <deFrysk> !indonesia
[08:03] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, deFrysk
[08:03] <deib> pluffsy: what current keyboard layout do you have? <sorry about the spam>
[08:04] <calvin> penguin: Sprechen Sie Deutsch?
[08:04] <Penguin> no, its dutch :)
[08:05] <Penguin> but you can see what I mean right?
[08:05] <calvin> oh
[08:05] <calvin> ok
[08:05] <nalioth> dutch? deutch?
[08:05] <dabaR> MCJedi: that is not what I told you. that is the output of trying to install the program. I wanted to see the sources.list.
[08:05] <dabaR> add main as your repo on tha tcomputer.
[08:05] <calvin> sorry, I took german for 6 years, got a concussion and lost most of it and it looked like german words
[08:05] <Penguin> dutch = belgium, the netherlands deutch = german
[08:05] <calvin> yeah, I see it
[08:05] <calvin> thaanks
[08:06] <MCJedi> how do i do that? add the main as repo
[08:06] <Penguin> np
[08:06] <wickedpuppy> dutch = belgium ?
[08:06] <deFrysk> he means The Netherlands  Belgium
[08:06] <deFrysk> he feversed it
[08:06] <deFrysk> reversed
[08:07] <wickedpuppy> i am sorry .. people in belgium are also called dutch ?
[08:07] <wickedpuppy> i never know that
[08:07] <Penguin> no the yspeak dutch :-)
[08:07] <wickedpuppy> oh
[08:07] <wickedpuppy> lol
[08:07] <Penguin> and tehre is a part that is speaking french
[08:07] <deFrysk> Belgium speaks dutch and French
[08:07] <bjv> # ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ | grep -i OpenAL
[08:07] <bjv> libopenal-dev_0.2004090900-1.1_i386.deb
[08:08] <bjv> what is the name of the libopenal0 package file?
[08:08] <calvin> kinda like canada speaking french and english?
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[08:08] <HANIS_IMOET> hai
[08:08] <deib> pluffsy_: what keyboard layout are you using? sweden?
[08:08] <Penguin> no french like france lol :p on topic now :-)
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[08:09] <calvin> Can I stream WMV files in a linux web browser?
[08:10] <Penguin> you mean see streams that are wmv?
[08:10] <bjv> dunno, i can play wmv files from my harddisk. i prefer not to stream in a browser
[08:10] <bjv> i assume you could stream if you want to.
[08:10] <calvin> Penguin: yes
[08:11] <Penguin> properbly no sound then, dunno, I get always no sound of wmv files in browser
[08:11] <calvin> How do you make it red to the person you are sending the MSG to, clicking on the name or typing it?
[08:11] <DShepherd> does breezy support transparency?
[08:12] <MadpilotPPC> calvin, start the line with someone's nick - that'll highlight it for them
[08:12] <Penguin> typing it calvin, type "cal" and use the tab, it will autocomplete then
[08:12] <calvin> thats what I thought
[08:12] <calvin> Thanks
[08:12] <deFrysk> calvin, this room has the colours turned off so only black and grey
[08:13] <bjv> the libopenal0 package, what .deb file does it reside in? grepping the contents of my apt cache for "openal" only turns up the file from package libopenal-dev
[08:13] <Penguin> he means the higlighting I think deFrysk :-)
[08:13] <calvin> deFrysk, but I mean it soe they show up like this, in red
[08:13] <deFrysk> oic
[08:13] <Penguin> calls highlighting calvin :)
[08:13] <deFrysk> how exiting ;p
[08:13] <DShepherd> does breezy support transparency?
[08:14] <pluffsy_> deib> swedish no dead keys
[08:14] <deFrysk> DShepherd, like transparency from xorg ?
[08:15] <calvin> thanks everybody, I got 3 hours sleep last night and have to get up in 6 hours so I better sleep now
[08:15] <WebLOCH> Hey all
[08:15] <calvin> leaving
[08:15] <WebLOCH> bye
[08:15] <FR500> hello
[08:16] <WebLOCH> I've got some quick questions about LMSensors
[08:16] <bjv> shoot.
[08:16] <WebLOCH> Well I wante dto check my CPU temp as ive overclocked it, but after installing the CPU info gdesklets they all complained at a lack of sensors
[08:16] <WebLOCH> so I installed lm-sensors, from the repos
[08:16] <WebLOCH> but they still state the same thing
[08:17] <WebLOCH> so im a bit lost
[08:17] <Penguin> did you follow the guide about using lmsensors?
[08:17] <MadpilotPPC> WebLOCH, you need to do some configuring of lm-sensors before it'll run. There's a tutorial at the Ubuntu Forums
[08:17] <Penguin> you have to configure it
[08:17] <bjv> yeah. it has been a while, but i believe i had to run a config/etc
[08:17] <WebLOCH> Ahh excellent
[08:17] <deib> pluffsy_: ALT+FN+zero doesnt do it?
[08:17] <WebLOCH> MadpilotPPC, I was wondering, but their homepage is not particularly helpful
[08:18] <Penguin> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=lmsensors WebLOCH
[08:18] <MadpilotPPC> WebLOCH, try "man lm-sensors" for starters
[08:18] <Penguin> perfect guide, worked well for me
[08:18] <DShepherd> deFrysk: I not sure if it is like transparency in X.org
[08:18] <WebLOCH> MadpilotPPC, I did it says theres no manual
[08:19] <pluffsy_> deib> blackslash here :(
[08:19] <DShepherd> deFrysk: so breezy supports transparency then?
[08:19] <Doonz> Hey guys any idea why i cant open up the file browser
[08:19] <Penguin> check my URL, WebLOCH :)
[08:19] <Doonz> it just says starting explorer and then it quits
[08:19] <Penguin> but follow it carefully
[08:19] <WebLOCH> Penguin I am doin
[08:19] <pluffsy_> it\s 8.19 here. need sleep. gnite.
[08:19] <Penguin> ok :)
[08:19] <WebLOCH> Penguin, it lacks detail
[08:19] <WebLOCH> but looks okay
[08:20] <bjv> ok, it appears i did not actually have libopenal0 installed
[08:20] <bjv> it should have been, when i had apt-got Blender, the 3d modeler..
[08:20] <deib> pluffsy_: have you tried with fn+shift on the keys?
[08:20] <BlurredWe> long time linux user (gentoo, LFS, redhat), first time ubuntu/debian user....breezy stable enough to use as a desktop system?
[08:20] <whyameye> Doonz, are you trying to run Nautilus? Are you running from the command line?
[08:20] <Burgundavia> BlurredWe, yes
[08:21] <WebLOCH> Penguin, where is the lm-sensor source ?
[08:21] <WebLOCH> Penguin, the guide doesn't state where, it just says the location
[08:21] <BlurredWe> ok, any gotchas anywhere that I should know about?  Pretty standard hardware...
[08:21] <Penguin> you just have to copy the text below and paste in in a text-editor WebLOCH
[08:21] <Penguin> and then name it makedev.sh
[08:21] <elc2> hi guys
[08:22] <deib> pluffsy_: nevermind that
[08:22] <MadpilotPPC> WebLOCH, you shouldn't need the source code to get lm-sensors running - it's been a while since I set it up, but I didn't do any source-code stuff
[08:22] <elc2> can anybody teach me how to install openoffice2.0 in ubuntu 5.04 (hoary)?
[08:22] <WebLOCH> Penguin.. the guide is a little misleading then .. Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source
[08:22] <Penguin> yeah its misleading
[08:22] <Penguin> but it worked perfect here
[08:23] <WebLOCH> Yeah im still trying it
[08:23] <WebLOCH> Im just a little retarded and a little anal, bad combination really
[08:23] <Penguin> hehe
[08:23] <ubuntuking> hello all
[08:24] <elc2> hi guys! can anyone teach me how to install openoffice 2.0 in ubuntu hoary
[08:24] <WebLOCH> Penguin, MadpilotPPC ... According to sensors-detect, I don't have any sensors installed in my system :P
[08:24] <wickedpuppy> lol
[08:25] <WebLOCH> Well it says... "No chips were detected"
[08:25] <MadpilotPPC> WebLOCH, which motherboard do you have?
[08:25] <WebLOCH> ASUS P5WD2 Premium
[08:26] <WebLOCH> with an Intel Pentium D 830
[08:26] <keikoz> mmh i have the same pbl with the Asus P5GDC
[08:26] <keikoz> no way to find the sensors ...
[08:27] <MadpilotPPC> my Asus board had it's sensors detected just fine - it's one of the high-end K7 boards, can't remember the exact #...
[08:27] <elc2> hi guys
[08:27] <elc2> i need help
[08:27] <bjv> with open office?
[08:28] <elc2> yes
[08:28] <bjv> i know. i do not use open office though.
[08:28] <bjv> is 2.0 a very high version?
[08:28] <elc2> can you teach me please
[08:28] <bjv> how to compile and install it?
[08:28] <elc2> yes
[08:29] <wickedpuppy> why you need to compile and install ??? i am sure there are .deb for oo
[08:29] <bjv> i imagine it involves a wget, a config, a make, and a make install.
[08:29] <bjv> but im sure that there is a faq provided somewhere for you.
[08:29] <Lord_Maynoth> when do you guys think linux in general will get a device manager like windows where you can acutally isntall new drivers
[08:29] <elc2> can you direct me to it?
[08:29] <Lord_Maynoth> ?
[08:29] <MadpilotPPC> Open Office 2 is default in Breezy, and in Hoary's repositories, guys
[08:29] <CaiN_SA> duh
[08:29] <bjv> MadpilotPPC: i already told him that i didnt know if 2.0 was a very high/unstable version.
[08:29] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, i don't get your question
[08:30] <Penguin> WebLOCH, proberbly a mobo that the kernel doesnt see the sensors yet, I just googeled
[08:30] <elc2> how can i get my hoary to breezy?
[08:30] <elc2> upgrade it?
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> you can install drivers in linux since ... i don't know ... long time ago
[08:30] <Lord_Maynoth> when will there be a device manager with an option to install new drivers
[08:30] <bjv> he said "and in hoary"
[08:30] <WebLOCH> Penguin, any suggestions?
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> option to install new drivers ? you install new drivers whenever you want ?
[08:30] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah but you have to go through all kinds of crap to install a new driver
[08:30] <Penguin> do you use hoary or breezy?
[08:31] <Lord_Maynoth> there is no easy way
[08:31] <Lord_Maynoth> like in windows device manager
[08:31] <frozensoul> hey =)
[08:31] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, which driver ?
[08:31] <elc2> i use hoary? but can i upgrade it to breezy
[08:31] <Lord_Maynoth> any driver
[08:31] <frozensoul> how can i install .deb file :>
[08:31] <wickedpuppy> nvidia driver is painless
[08:31] <Penguin> do you use hoary or breezy WebLOCH ?
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, why not ask the companies to provide source files for their drivers ?? we be happy to make .deb or .rpm for you
[08:32] <Penguin> else try with breezy, ist having a new kernel, but I dont know if that is gonna solve it
[08:32] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah thats great and all
[08:32] <WebLOCH> Penguin... Hoary
[08:32] <Lord_Maynoth> but wouldn't it be aswesome if there was a device manager... where you had an option to install new drivers
[08:32] <Lord_Maynoth> like windows
[08:32] <frozensoul> anyone to help me ? :)
[08:32] <Lord_Maynoth> except not
[08:32] <Lord_Maynoth> hehe
[08:33] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, that is not how new drivers are installed
[08:33] <Penguin> maybe its gonna work in breezy then WebLOCH
[08:33] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, what piece of hardware doesn't work?
[08:33] <frozensoul> how can i install .deb file :> :)
[08:33] <Lord_Maynoth> no... I am just saying
[08:33] <Penguin> brb
[08:33] <Lord_Maynoth> it would be a lot easier to work with
[08:34] <Lord_Maynoth> I know autopackage is working on making software installation as easy as windows
[08:34] <Lord_Maynoth> I wonder if they will branch off into drivers in the far future
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, drivers are nothing but software ... l
[08:34] <MadpilotPPC> Lord_Maynoth, Synaptic is easier than Windows already, really... and covers drivers too, mostly...
[08:34] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, autopackage is not a panacea, and that is not how drivers work in Linux
[08:34] <WebLOCH> Penguin, yeah but in th emean time ill have to un-overclock the processors
[08:35] <bjv> frozensoul: tritium has shown me the way of dpkg,   try man dpkg
[08:35] <frozensoul> bjv, thank you
[08:35] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, installing drivers after the fact is, in fact, a bug
[08:35] <nalioth> Lord_Maynoth: have a look at this http://www.gnu.org/software/sourceinstall/sourceinstall.html
[08:36] <bjv> may i ask a question?
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> bjv, you just did
[08:36] <Lord_Maynoth> well at what point do you guys think that linux will be completely installable, configureable, and usable without the command line
[08:36] <bjv> hmph. :p
[08:36] <Lord_Maynoth> perhaps thats a better question
[08:36] <tristanmike> frozensoul, "sudo dpkg -i <packagename>
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, command line is what making me use linux
[08:37] <wickedpuppy> if i want click click click ... i go back to windows
[08:37] <MadpilotPPC> Lord_Maynoth, the only thing I've really *had* to use the command line for is lm-sensors...
[08:37] <jrr> does ubuntu come without mp3 capability a la redhat?
[08:37] <Lord_Maynoth> maybe I should just go back to dos
[08:37] <Burgundavia> jrr, not by default
[08:37] <nalioth> jrr: correct
[08:37] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[08:37] <wickedpuppy> jrr, yes ... no mp3 out of the box
[08:37] <Burgundavia> jrr, sorry, misread question
[08:37] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, dos is nothing like bash ... pls don't compare them :P
[08:38] <bjv> wait it cant play mp3's out of the box?
[08:38] <WebLOCH> bbs
[08:38] <bjv> im pretty sure 5.04 did..
[08:38] <jrr> i'd imagine there's something in multiverse for mp3?
[08:38] <nalioth> bjv: nope
[08:38] <Burgundavia> bjv, it didn't
[08:38] <jrr> (mpg123 for now =] )
[08:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jrr about mp3
[08:38] <wickedpuppy> bjv, nope ... no free distro provides mp3 playability out of the box
[08:38] <bjv> are you absolutely sure?
[08:39] <wickedpuppy> bjv, ... yes ... lol
[08:39] <Lord_Maynoth> ubuntu played my mp3s fine
[08:39] <bjv> im blown away.. i dont think i had to apt-get xmms..
[08:39] <B_166-ER-X> what is the default path to system sounds (.wav)  in hoary ?
[08:39] <Lord_Maynoth> i hate apt-get
[08:39] <bjv> i guess i might have. installing 5.04 was a while ago. :P
[08:39] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, out of the box .. no
[08:39] <Lord_Maynoth> :P
[08:39] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, you also hate synaptic then ?
[08:40] <bjv> i love apt.             .. except for it seems to be failing me right now. :(((
[08:40] <Lord_Maynoth> being tied to a central repository fork-n socks
[08:40] <bjv> i have no idea where to look for  'openal-config'
[08:40] <Lord_Maynoth> :P
[08:40] <jrr> it doesn't seem like that royalty thing could hold up against free decoders like lame
[08:40] <B_166-ER-X> someone ? just look in your 'sound' configuration..
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, no you are not... you can make ya own repos ...
[08:41] <thoreauputic> Lord_Maynoth: not true - you can compile on Ubuntu if you wish for example - besides which th erepos have > 17 000 packages...
[08:41] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah if I knew how to code
[08:41] <wickedpuppy> making repos need no coding ...
[08:41] <Lord_Maynoth> if I took the time to learn the command line
[08:41] <abimael_sesshoum> aru@hotmail.com
[08:41] <nalioth> Lord_Maynoth: and compiling requires very little knowledge
[08:42] <frozensoul> can i install the kde packets from kubuntu to ubuntu ?
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, ... everything new takes time ... i don't see the problem there ...
[08:42] <thoreauputic> Lord_Maynoth: learning the command line will set you free ;)
[08:42] <nalioth> frozensoul: i dont understand your question
[08:42] <benkong2> I have searched the net over and now need help on a dpkg -l |grep postfix? In the output each fille has an "ii" in the first column and one file has an "rc". What or where do I find the meaning of the symbols?
[08:43] <frozensoul> nalioth, i am with ubuntu, and i want kde ..
[08:43] <nalioth> frozensoul: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[08:43] <vengeful> brb
[08:44] <wickedpuppy> frozensoul, why not just install kubuntu then ??
[08:44] <thoreauputic> benkong2: dpkg -l tells you at the top of the output...
[08:44] <thoreauputic> benkong2:  ii means installed
[08:44] <benkong2> thoreauputic; I see that but none of the output says rc
[08:44] <Lord_Maynoth> i dunno linux just will not be ready for main stream until there is an easy way to point and click install,uninstall, update drivers and software
[08:45] <benkong2> unless rc is half-installed
[08:45] <frozensoul> because i installed ubuntu :)
[08:45] <wickedpuppy> lol Lord_Maynoth use mac :P
[08:45] <Lord_Maynoth> thats not my point wicked
[08:45] <MadpilotPPC> Lord_Maynoth, it's called Synaptic, it already exists...
[08:45] <nalioth> frozensoul: if you install kubuntu-desktop you'll have kde
[08:46] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, i for one stronngly resist clicking for everything ... if i do that i go back to windows ... or stop using X
[08:46] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, drivers should just work. As for software, see the Add Applications utility in breezy
[08:47] <Lord_Maynoth> users will have to be able to download 4rd party drivers and software and be able to install and unstall them before linux is going to be mainstream
[08:47] <Lord_Maynoth> 3rd
[08:47] <Lord_Maynoth> just my$0.02
[08:47] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, have you tried cedega or crossover office ?
[08:48] <wickedpuppy> i think not
[08:48] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, if the hardware doesn't work ootb, it is a bug
[08:48] <wickedpuppy> those already have installer and uninstaller
[08:48] <Lord_Maynoth> seems a lot of people i talk to think linux should never be mainstream.... that that would ruin the spirit of linux
[08:48] <CarlFK> does the live CD have a cd burner app?
[08:48] <FR500> does breezy have gnome 2.2?
[08:48] <Lord_Maynoth> wicked... i really do not want to run windows apps inside of linux if i can help it
[08:48] <Burgundavia> FR500, the current stable verstino of gnome is 2.12
[08:49] <topyli> FR500: it has 2.12
[08:49] <benkong2> thoreauputic; I shall keep looking but the exact file list is: "rc  postfix-tls    2.1.5-9ubuntu3   TLS and SASL support for Postfix"
[08:49] <FR500> oh
[08:49] <esac> 2.12.0 to be precise
[08:49] <Lord_Maynoth> is there still no good menu editor for gnome
[08:49] <Lord_Maynoth> thats really surprising..
[08:49] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, yes there is
[08:49] <Lord_Maynoth> hehe
[08:49] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, i am telling you installer and uninstaller for commercial apps are already there
[08:49] <FR500> Lord_Maynoth: SMEG is good
[08:49] <Lord_Maynoth> smeg was awful
[08:49] <Lord_Maynoth> hehe
[08:49] <adil> hello
[08:49] <esac> Lord_Maynoth: i was just thinking that as i am currently using smeg which sucks
[08:49] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, if you are here to disagree, please take it elsewhere
[08:49] <Lord_Maynoth> i had to add new repos just to be able to download it
[08:49] <topyli> Lord_Maynoth: what exactly is wrong with smeg?
[08:50] <esac> i don't understand why i cant delete items from the menu. for some reason anjuta is hanging around on the menu even though i removed it
[08:50] <thoreauputic> benkong2: hmm - not sure what the "rc" stands for but I've seen it with removed packages (ones that were not purged of configuration files)
[08:50] <Lord_Maynoth> i could only hide items
[08:50] <Lord_Maynoth> which I thought was lame
[08:50] <Lord_Maynoth> i saw no true add/delete functionality
[08:50] <esac> nod i don't see delete functionality either :(
[08:50] <thoreauputic> benkong2: I was jsut looking at man dpkg - haven't found it yet - maybe "retained configuration?" (dunno)
[08:50] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, you are not here to ask for help are you ?? #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[08:51] <topyli> Lord_Maynoth: oh, ok. that's true with hoary at least
[08:51] <benkong2> thoreauputic; k thanks
[08:51] <Lord_Maynoth> no I came here to ask questions that everyone ignores
[08:51] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[08:51] <Xanthus7> is the new 64 bit ubuntu ready yet
[08:51] <wickedpuppy> really ?? for past few minutes you been complaining about linux
[08:51] <tristanmike> sorry, what was wrong with Smeg Lord_Maynoth ?
[08:51] <nalioth_zZz> Lord_Maynoth: they are 'ignored' because your answer isnt here. no reason to clutter the channel while you wait
[08:51] <esac> tristanmike: you can't delete menu items, just hide them
[08:52] <tristanmike> esac, right click
[08:52] <tristanmike> delete
[08:52] <esac> nope
[08:52] <tristanmike> yup
[08:52] <esac> delete is grayed out
[08:52] <bjv> is the answer to my question "what package is 'openal-config' in?" somewhere else?
[08:52] <bjv> because i dont know where else to look.
[08:52] <bjv> is this an unofficial help channel>?
[08:52] <topyli> tristanmike: that only works for menu items you have created yourself. naturally, smeg cannot delete items from /usr/share
[08:52] <esac> topyli: but i tried "sudo smeg" and it still wouldn't let me
[08:53] <FR500> topyli: which is actually good
[08:53] <Lord_Maynoth> what do you guys think of xandros
[08:53] <esac> yep just tried sudo smeg again and it still won't let me
[08:53] <Xanthus7> is the new 64bit ubuntu ready
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> bjv, i don't see a package named openal-config
[08:53] <thoreauputic> bjv: read the /topic and see :)
[08:53] <topyli> FR500: of course. a user cannot know if another user wants a menu item or not
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, is this your question ?
[08:53] <Xanthus7> hello
[08:53] <Lord_Maynoth> your opinions on xandros excuse me
[08:54] <thoreauputic> Lord_Maynoth: #ubuntu-offtopic exists, you know
[08:54] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, this is a help channel and not opinion poll channel ...
[08:54] <Lord_Maynoth> oh
[08:54] <FR500> well  we like ubuntu
[08:54] <Xanthus7> What about 64bit ubuntu
[08:54] <Lord_Maynoth> thought this was offtopic
[08:54] <Kimahri> i run ubuntu o nmy lappyt
[08:54] <Kimahri> Lord_Maynoth: read the topic.
[08:54] <Kimahri> especially the first part
[08:55] <thoreauputic> Lord_Maynoth: in fact #ubuntu-offtopic can be *very* offtopic
[08:55] <topyli> Lord_Maynoth: sometimes it is :)
[08:55] <Lord_Maynoth> ok
[08:55] <bjv> wickedpuppy: ive tried and not found it in both  libopenal-dev  &   libopenal0
[08:55] <Kimahri> i run ubuntu on me lappy, but my other linux boxen run either gentoo or SuSE
[08:55] <bjv> what other openal packages are there?
[08:55] <Lord_Maynoth> well here is an genuine honest question
[08:55] <snausages> how can i reset the attributes of a folder through the terminal?
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> bjv, are you searching in synaptic ?
[08:56] <Lord_Maynoth> where can I buy a training manual that will take me from ubernoob to ubergeek in linux
[08:56] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, no where
[08:56] <Lord_Maynoth> reccomendations
[08:56] <bjv> wickedpuppy: "apt-cache search openal"
[08:56] <Kimahri> Lord_Maynoth: you just have to play around with it for quite a long time.
[08:56] <Lord_Maynoth> so there is nothing to teach me the ins and outs of the command line
[08:56] <thoreauputic> Lord_Maynoth: look at the O'Reilly website as a start I guess
[08:56] <bjv> Lord_Maynoth: man helps. :\
[08:56] <Lord_Maynoth> i just have to google till i drop
[08:56] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, man
[08:56] <Lord_Maynoth> lol
[08:56] <Lord_Maynoth> ok
[08:57] <Lord_Maynoth> thkanks
[08:57] <thoreauputic> Lord_Maynoth: http://tuxfiles.org
[08:57] <Kimahri> Lord_Maynoth: it took me almost 2 years to learn a lot.  i started on Mandrake 9.0, and then i started dinking around a bit.
[08:57] <iiiears> linuxquestions.org is a good start read a few pages every day.
[08:57] <topyli> Lord_Maynoth: install the debian documentation packages, and you can at least learn to use debian and ubuntu :)
[08:57] <Kimahri> Lord_Maynoth: and of course, man <package> help a bit.
[08:57] <Lord_Maynoth> i like actual books though
[08:57] <k-0tik> its not the thing to have books on
[08:57] <bjv> what if  'OpenAL-config'  is not in any of the ubuntu packages?
[08:57] <Xanthus7> Can anyone tell me if they have ever completed ubuntu for 64 bit
[08:57] <bjv> what do i do then?
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> bjv, well ... i got those both them
[08:58] <topyli> Lord_Maynoth: your book will be obsolete in six months
[08:58] <esac> does anybody know if there is any support in kdevelop for c# ?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> Lord_Maynoth: O'Reilly publish "Linux in a Nutshell" for instance
[08:58] <wickedpuppy> bjv, openal-config is not anywhere ... i don't see it in synaptic or in apt-cache
[08:58] <Kimahri> Lord_Maynoth: most of the books i'vee seen are distro specific... like redhat or mandrake.
[08:58] <bjv> well it should be at /usr/bin/openal-config
[08:58] <wickedpuppy> esac, c# ? you need mono
[08:58] <bjv> if there is a package that installs it. :\
[08:58] <Kimahri> Lord_Maynoth: every distro does things differently
[08:58] <thoreauputic> Lord_Maynoth: sudo apt-get install apt-howto *grin*
[08:58] <wickedpuppy> bjv,  not on my machine
[08:58] <iiiears> lol
[08:58] <bjv> (02:57:48) bjv: what if  'OpenAL-config'  is not in any of the ubuntu packages?
[08:58] <bjv> (02:57:51) bjv: what do i do then?
[08:58] <bjv> :(
[08:59] <Xanthus7> can anyone see me at all
[08:59] <bjv> Xanthus7: no.
[08:59] <wickedpuppy> why you need that is ... beyond me ?
[08:59] <Kimahri> Xanthus7: i see ya
[08:59] <topyli> wickedpuppy: you can write c# code without mono, the question was about kdevelop :)
[08:59] <thoreauputic> Xanthus7: no you are invisible
[08:59] <thoreauputic> ;)
[08:59] <wickedpuppy> write ... compile ?
[09:00] <wickedpuppy> you can write the code on anywhere .... vi emacs nano .. i thought the question was to compile it
[09:00] <topyli> wickedpuppy: i don't know much about kdevelop but AFAIK it's not a compiler
[09:00] <esac> has anybody gotten teleport to work ?
[09:00] <Lord_Maynoth> well maybe in 5 years if tcpa hasn't killed open source by then... maybe then linux will have evolved enough to go mainstream... I will give it that... it is evolving so fast... I remember how much linux has improved over the past 3 years.... but it has so far to go
[09:00] <Lord_Maynoth> any
[09:00] <Lord_Maynoth> who
[09:00] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks see ya
[09:00] <wickedpuppy> well then i missed his question topyli  ... he can write on any prog that accepts keyboard input
[09:00] <topyli> esac: no, but it's a long-lasting dream of human kind :)
[09:00] <wickedpuppy> lol
[09:00] <zenek> i cannot play mp3's (There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg). what i have to do? msg me in priv... ty
[09:01] <esac> topyli: really? i learned to teleport years ago, but i still haven't gotten the program "teleport" to work :(
[09:01] <wickedpuppy> zenek, no sound or can't play mp3 ?
[09:01] <Myrtti> !mp3
[09:01] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:01] <topyli> esac: exactly =)
[09:02] <cosimo321> HELLO ALL
[09:02] <wickedpuppy> cosimo321, no caps pls
[09:02] <cosimo321> WHY NOT
[09:03] <wickedpuppy> oh boy
[09:03] <vengeful> lol
[09:03] <Myrtti> because it's yelling
[09:03] <topyli> esac: looks pretty useful for some situations
[09:03] <cosimo321> HOW IS CAPITOL LETTERS YELLING?
[09:03] <bjv> LINUX PEOPLE ARE FREAKED OUT BY CAPS
[09:03] <cosimo321> OOOO
[09:03] <esac> topyli: ive tried quite a few programs now, and everytime i run teleport it says "there are no windows available that will work with teleport, teleport now exiting"
[09:03] <bjv> THIS IS NOT A MAINFRAME ENVIRONMENT
[09:03] <topyli> cosimo321: you are about to be ignored by a lot of people
[09:03] <jrr> hate of all-caps crosses platforms.
[09:03] <cosimo321> You have got to be kidding?
[09:04] <Myrtti> idiots
[09:04] <cosimo321> Fine no caps unless I have to IMPRESS something on you guys
[09:04] <bjv> also the use of lowercase sans-serif characters increases readability.
[09:04] <esac> cosimo321: we dont even capitalize the first word of each sentence
[09:04] <cosimo321> ok
[09:04] <topyli> altough we should really :)
[09:04] <bjv> the letters have their own shapes and flows well.
[09:04] <bjv> caps does not.
[09:04] <cosimo321> I do have a couple of serious questions being sort of new to breezy
[09:05] <topyli> aren't we all new to breezy? _)
[09:05] <cosimo321> The other night I asked how to install the drivers for the nvidia fx5200 pci card.
[09:05] <cosimo321>  The directions given screwed up my system.
[09:05] <cosimo321> Today I will ask again and also about configuring the wqacom tools in breezy
[09:05] <wickedpuppy> i got nvidia gforce fx 5500 ... i used ubuntuguide.org ... and i am still alive
[09:06] <cosimo321> wacom
[09:06] <tristanmike> cosimo321, it's AGP actually, not PCI
[09:06] <tristanmike> i have the same card
[09:06] <cosimo321> my card is pci
[09:06] <vengeful> didnt know they still bothered making pci cards
[09:06] <esac> what is the advantage of ESD over ALSA? i noticed that by default, breezy uses the ESD sink. ive always heard that ALSA is better. any opinions?
[09:06] <zenek> i can play *.ogg files but no *.mp3. what i have to do to play mp3's?
[09:06] <cosimo321> what about the wacom tools
[09:07] <wickedpuppy> zenek, did you go to the site that ubotu gave ya ?
[09:07] <Myrtti> !mp3
[09:07] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:07] <bjv> esac: i use ALSA extensively because i require software mixing.
[09:07] <topyli> esac: it depends if your card supports multiple simultaneous sounds or not. if not, you may want a sound server like esd
[09:07] <iiiears> cosimo - that doesn't sound like fun :/  - unless you need to wring the last bit of performance from your video card. nvidia-glx in synaptic is much easier to install than the nvidia site's drivers
[09:07] <bjv> esac: ESD is from the enlightenment desktop/whatever environment? im not aware of any reason to use it.
[09:07] <cosimo321> Ok when I go into find files and go to /dev, all files under there are greyd out. how to change this?
[09:08] <esac> naw i think my sound card is fairly new and can support multiple streams. if you mean can i watch pr0n and listen to hatebreed at the same time, then, yes
[09:08] <cosimo321> Yeah but the synaptic drivers screw up my system
[09:08] <cusco> hi.. when I open a .mpg link firefox tryes to use a totem plugin instead of mplayer-mozilla
[09:08] <cosimo321> what about the greyd out files
[09:08] <topyli> esac: then you are lucky and kick esd out
[09:09] <cosimo321> oops new update just appeared for breezy
[09:09] <topyli> esac: it sucks anyway
[09:09] <esac> so by default esd is used for better compatibility then
[09:09] <tzapachuau> hello
[09:10] <cosimo321> I realize Breezy is just a preview right now but they need to have serious hardware support right out of the box
[09:10] <cosimo321> If not it will go by the way of BeOs
[09:11] <cosimo321> I still use Be and like it,
[09:12] <cosimo321> I also like this Breezy but I see little difference between the two except for GUI
[09:12] <topyli> esac: i think breezy uses alsa by default and esd is just there "in case a user is poor and has an old sound blaster"
[09:12] <bjv> doesnt Breezy have the same hardware support as Hoary?
[09:12] <bjv> Hoary support == uber serious afaiac
[09:12] <esac> cosimo321: i've installed it on 2 laptops and an amd64 and an em64t and haven't had a single driver missing as of yet
[09:12] <tzapachuau> my sound plays only in xmms
[09:12] <Burgundavia> bjv, it should support more than haory
[09:12] <bjv> Burgundavia: for real.
[09:12] <tzapachuau> when i try to play video files in VLC it didnot work
[09:12] <topyli> aah. OOo update
[09:12] <vengeful> has more wireless support
[09:12] <tzapachuau> am using esound output pluggins
[09:12] <wickedpuppy> tzapachuau, #vlc or email videolan's support ?
[09:12] <Burgundavia> bjv, if you see a regression, file a bug
[09:12] <iiiears> Is anyone here an Unreal Tournament Sniper server aficianado? - Ubuntu doesn't like ut-install-436-goty.run
[09:12] <cosimo321> I am going to update be back later
[09:12] <Burgundavia> cosimo321, if something doesn't work, file a bug
[09:12] <topyli> cosimo321: good luck finding apps for it :(
[09:13] <bjv> speaking of filing a bug..
[09:13] <tzapachuau> wickedpuppy,  my sound does not work in other playes too
[09:13] <wickedpuppy> tzapachuau, but sound does work in xmms ?
[09:13] <bjv> i can find no way of getting the 'openal-config'  script from the apt repos.
[09:13] <tzapachuau> yups ion xmms
[09:13] <bjv> who do i talk to about this?
[09:13] <Burgundavia> bjv, file a bug
[09:14] <wickedpuppy> tzapachuau, each player has internal sound control ... have you tried adjusted them ?
[09:14] <Burgundavia> bjv, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[09:14] <bjv> Burgundavia: *following bugzilla link*
[09:14] <bjv> oh, thx.
[09:14] <tzapachuau> is there anything to change in the system/prefernce/multimedia system selector
[09:15] <bjv> tzapachuau: your file browser controls how it opens files, your media player controls how it uses your hardware
[09:16] <tzapachuau> but there is no ortion for esound
[09:16] <bjv> your issue seems to not be with #ubuntu?
[09:16] <tzapachuau> i mean that option is not selectred
[09:16] <tzapachuau> i mean that option is not selected
[09:16] <topyli> tzapachuau: if your apps are esd-aware, it's best to select it. dunno about vlc
[09:16] <tzapachuau> ok
[09:17] <tzapachuau> i think VLC does not support it
[09:17] <tzapachuau> only Linux OSS
[09:17] <tzapachuau> Dummy
[09:17] <tzapachuau> and file output
[09:17] <tzapachuau> are there
[09:17] <topyli> tzapachuau: that's very lame
[09:17] <Pickle_Weasel> VLC the player doesn't support esd?
[09:18] <cusco> hi.. when I open a .mpg link firefox tryes to use a totem plugin instead of mplayer-mozilla
[09:18] <tzapachuau> os the best option will be Linux OSS
[09:19] <topyli> that's the worst option for linux sound AFAIK, but if you really want vlc, and it supports nothing else, then what the hell
[09:20] <elc2> hi! can anyone tell me how to update  hoary to breezy?
[09:20] <thoreauputic> !upgrade2breezy
[09:20] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:23] <tzapachuau> topyli, then how do i change my sound output functions
[09:23] <topyli> in system -> prefs -> multimedia selector
[09:26] <Pickle_Weasel> is breezy spable enough to upgrade to yet?
[09:27] <Pickle_Weasel> stable, even
[09:27] <topyli> Pickle_Weasel: for a desktop, i do think so
[09:27] <Pickle_Weasel> i see
[09:27] <Pickle_Weasel> the reason i ask is because last week i was told to stay away from it
[09:27] <tzapachuau> so i need to restart
[09:28] <topyli> Pickle_Weasel: it depends really. just _how_ stable do you want? there is still a risk they will break it :)
[09:28] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[09:30] <topyli> Pickle_Weasel: on my desktops, it has behaved ok for quite a while. the only annoying thing is upgrading 150 packages every morning
[09:30] <Pickle_Weasel> heh, they pump out upgrades that fast?
[09:31] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: yes, that's normal
[09:31] <topyli> Pickle_Weasel: well, something a problem with X does mean upgrading quite a few packages
[09:31] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: it will suddenly stop after release :)
[09:32] <topyli> thoreauputic: yeah, i almost switched back to debian unstable :)
[09:33] <thoreauputic> heheh
[09:33] <topyli> which really is unstable again
[09:33] <thoreauputic> topyli: are they doing the gcc4 and xorg transitions ?
[09:33] <dhonn> lol
[09:33] <thoreauputic> in sid I mean...
[09:34] <dhonn> im a bleeding edge adict i cant wait for dapper drake
[09:34] <Pickle_Weasel> now, doing this update, changing all the "hoary's" to "breezy's," do i also change things like "hoary-security" to "breezy-security" and so on?
[09:34] <thoreauputic> dhonn: you have to wait for the devs to sober up after the release parties ;)
[09:34] <topyli> thoreauputic: i don't know what's causing it, this is what i hear. those are good candidates. they are also getting gnome 2.10 in
[09:34] <Pickle_Weasel> the repositories, i mean
[09:35] <dhonn> lol? i want the drunken code
[09:35] <tristanmike> good night to all
[09:35] <vengeful> brb
[09:36] <dhonn> lol i have aready upgraded my friends deskops to breezy
[09:36] <dhonn> when it was stable enough
[09:36] <ormandj> anybody here using some form of mysql authentication for user logins?
[09:36] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: yes you change all instances of the word
[09:36] <ormandj> a-la pam-mysql or nss-mysql?
[09:36] <Pickle_Weasel> ok, thank you
[09:36] <Pickle_Weasel> i just did that, i will now attempt to update >_<
[09:37] <topyli> dhonn: didn't break this morning either when i did the regular updates
[09:37] <dhonn> just 10 more days
[09:37] <Pickle_Weasel> changing all instances of the word got me a lot of error messages when reloading synaptic
[09:38] <dhonn> what do you think about a clean install, is it nessessary?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> !tell Pickle_Weasel about upgrade2breezy
[09:38] <Pickle_Weasel> i know..i followed that
[09:39] <ilpavox> is there a linux partitioning tool that is non-destructive?
[09:39] <Pickle_Weasel> and i did what it asked me, the error messages still stand
[09:39] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: well, Seveas has a list of sources for breezy - try that approach
[09:39] <thoreauputic> !sources
[09:39] <ubotu> well, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[09:39] <Pickle_Weasel> yay
[09:39] <Pickle_Weasel> ^.^
[09:39] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: the last URL I guess
[09:40] <ompaul> dhonn, depends on what you want, you can do it if you want to.
[09:40] <Pickle_Weasel> aye, i got it, thank you =)
[09:40] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:41] <TiMiDo> yay
[09:41] <TiMiDo> i'm updating to breezy
[09:42] <vengeful> hurray ;-)
[09:42] <dreamwave> well that was relatively painless.  now operating from my dual boot system with ubuntu 5.10 colony 5.  updates are downloading while i type.
[09:42] <TiMiDo> nice dreamwave
[09:42] <dreamwave> so, 2 hours total including downloading the iso.
[09:43] <Pickle_Weasel> ubuntu can be the easiest OS ever to install something in
[09:43] <dreamwave> thanks
[09:43] <Pickle_Weasel> unless what you want isn't in synaptic, then it's a major pain >.>
[09:43] <ompaul> Pickle_Weasel, it is as hard a installing something on Debian
[09:43] <Pickle_Weasel> well, debian and ubuntu are very similar, after all
[09:43] <dhonn> firefox needs a 6 month release cycle
[09:43] <TiMiDo> yeah they are
[09:44] <ompaul> dhonn, no, it needs a release cycle that makes sense, fix bugs add new stuff and move along
[09:44] <dreamwave> i noticed that i currently don't have a terminal available.  is that by design?  i plan to fetch gnome-terminal.
[09:45] <topyli> dhonn: yes, everybody should release on the same day gnome does :)
[09:45] <thoreauputic> dreamwave: try looking in "Accessories"
[09:45] <Burgundavia> dreamwave, you should have gnome-terminal installed by default
[09:45] <vengeful> you should have one
[09:45] <dhonn> im runnin firefox 1.5 beta2 it would be cool if it was done aready so it can be included in 5.10
[09:45] <ompaul> topyli, ohh come on, the day after
[09:45] <dreamwave> ah.  there it is.
[09:45] <Pickle_Weasel> i hear in breezy gnome, everything is anti alaised
[09:45] <topyli> ompaul: oh yes, they need to test thoroughly ;-)
[09:46] <thoreauputic> !openterm
[09:46] <ubotu> To add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package
[09:46] <clast> Pickle_Weasel, yeah it looks really smooth
[09:46] <topyli> Pickle_Weasel: yes, it's cairo enabled. not many apps are though
[09:47] <TiMiDo> What's breezy like on debian? sarge sid?
[09:47] <ompaul> TiMiDo, six month old sid
[09:47] <ompaul> on the day it was formed it was sid
[09:47] <TiMiDo> oh nice
[09:47] <TiMiDo> so now?
[09:47] <topyli> it's newer than sid :)
[09:47] <Burgundavia> TiMiDo, some parts are newer than sid, some are older
[09:48] <rawiramdhan> Hello
[09:48] <thoreauputic> ompaul: well, gnome 2.12 isn't in sid yet
[09:48] <TiMiDo> rawiramdhan,  hello
[09:48] <ompaul> it is six months of improvement on that position with some of its parts changed
[09:48] <topyli> TiMiDo: i mean the desktop parts i care about are newer
[09:48] <Burgundavia> TiMiDo, but for the first half of the development cycle, we should be exactly synced to sid, with some newer peices
[09:48] <thoreauputic> yah
[09:48] <rawiramdhan> Does anyone know where I can change my xterm fonts/color etc?
[09:48] <TiMiDo> rawiramdhan,  put new fonts on .fonts man xterm
[09:48] <No1Viking> !tell me about breezy
[09:49] <jrr> rawiramdhan: as arguments to xterm, but i presume also in some kind of .xterm or .xtermrc
[09:49] <ompaul> TiMiDo, there you are 5 people looking at the same thing with more or less the same views and different things  being said :)
[09:49] <topyli> rawiramdhan: command line options, or .Xdefaults i guess
[09:49] <jrr> grr silly wacom stopped working
[09:49] <TiMiDo> yeah ompaul
[09:49] <ompaul> thoreauputic, voip
[09:49] <topyli> rawiramdhan: it's been a while since i used it
[09:49] <thoreauputic> ompaul: OK hang on a minute :)
[09:49] <rawiramdhan> I cant find .Xdefaults, I can change the color etc with commands but i cant save it
[09:50] <TiMiDo> rawiramdhan, do you have access to it?
[09:50] <thoreauputic> rawiramdhan: ~/.Xdefaults you create yourself :)
[09:50] <topyli> rawiramdhan: i would put "alias xterm='xterm -my -options -that -i -like'" in my bashrc
[09:50] <TiMiDo> rawiramdhan,  don't msg me
[09:51] <rawiramdhan> I'll make a .Xdefaults file...
[09:53] <Juzzy> Hey guys, seeking help, got 2 hdds, hda (pata) and another sata hard drive, but when i look for hdb its nnot there... and hdc won't mount due to mount: No medium found
[09:55] <tcabh> hi
[09:56] <tcabh> hi
[09:56] <tcabh> anyone care to chat
[09:56] <TiMiDo> tcabh, hi do not repeat please
[09:56] <TiMiDo> tcabh, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:56] <Cicakman> hello.... does breezy badger come with gtk+2.7 or higher??
[09:56] <TiMiDo> !info gtk+ breezy
[09:56] <TiMiDo> !info gtk breezy
[09:56] <Cicakman> i wanted to install clearlooks-cairo, but it needs that....
[09:56] <Cicakman> !info
[09:56] <TiMiDo> Cicakman, apt-cache search gtk
[09:57] <Cicakman> !info gtk+ breezy
[09:57] <calamari> I have a composite output on this ati rage video card.. can send output to it?
[09:57] <Cicakman> !info gtk breezy
[09:58] <Cicakman> TiMiDo... errr.. how do i know the version??
[09:58] <TiMiDo> Cicakman, apt-cache search gtk or info package
[09:58] <topyli> gotta love last.fm. no need to think about what i would like next :)
[09:59] <dooglus> Cicakman: breezy comes with 2.8.4-0ubuntu2
[09:59] <dooglus> Cicakman: I found out like this: chris@chrislap:~$ apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 | grep Candid
[09:59] <dooglus>   Candidate: 2.8.4-0ubuntu2
[10:00] <Cicakman> dooglus: thx.....
[10:01] <Cicakman> dooglus: any idea why clearlooks-cairo still complain that it needs gtk+2.8 or higher?
[10:01] <dooglus> Cicakman: if you don't have breezy already, you can find out on the web: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/libgtk2.0-0
[10:01] <dooglus> Cicakman: it complains?  how do you see that complaint?
[10:01] <Cicakman> dooglus: i'm compiling from source
[10:01] <Cicakman> checking for GTK... configure: error: GTK+-2.7 or newer is required to compile clearlooks-cairo
[10:01] <dooglus> Cicakman: which source package?
[10:01] <thoreauputic> Cicakman: you need the -dev package
[10:02] <dreamwave> okay.  i've added my windows hda2 to fstab and ubuntu does the right thing and places an icon for it on the desktop.  i've added my login to the 'disk' group.  but i still don't have read access to the drive.  is that because the shell the X occupies doesn't realize that i now belong to the 'disk' group?
[10:02] <dooglus> Cicakman: use 'apt-get build-dep' to install the build dependancies
[10:02] <bob2> Cicakman: sudo aptitude install build-essential gnome-devel
[10:02] <Cicakman> i downloaded from cvs
[10:02] <bob2> Cicakman: note that it's unlikely to build on hoary at all, so you'll need to be using breezy
[10:03] <Cicakman> bob2: i'm using breezy
[10:03] <Cicakman> i downloaded clearlooks-cairo from cvs
[10:03] <bob2> anyway, as above
[10:03] <Cicakman> clearlooks-cairo is not in ubuntu repository, how can i use apt-get???
[10:04] <bob2> Cicakman: anyway, do what I said
[10:04] <Cicakman> ok...
[10:04] <thoreauputic> Cicakman: bob2 is suggesting you get the dependencies with apt
[10:05] <thoreauputic> which will make life a lot easier...
[10:05] <Cicakman> is it significantly prettier?
[10:06] <clast> Cicakman, it's supposed to be prettier, but rather slow and buggy
[10:06] <thoreauputic> where "significantly" has some random subjective value...
[10:06] <Cicakman> clast: uh oh....
[10:06] <Cicakman> so you guys wouldnt recommend me to use it?
[10:07] <clast> Cicakman, give me a sec, i read an article about it recently mybe i can find it for you
[10:07] <scandium_> hi, I tried installing breezy/amd64 (preview release, colony 5 and yesterday's daily build) but the installer always fails when trying to process libc6-udeb or jfsutils-udeb with a read error (console output is WARNING: ** bad md5sum) - but I checked the md5sum of all isos, let the burning app verify the disc and I used three different discs for each iso and even 2 different burning devices
[10:07] <bob2> doesn't the default gtk theme engine in breezy use cairo, anyway?
[10:07] <bob2> scandium_: have you let the cd try to verify itself yet?
[10:08] <Cicakman> bob2: not sure about that.. but i notice there's a slight change in the interface
[10:08] <scandium_> yes, it says the integrity is OK after 2 seconds
[10:08] <bob2> 2 seconds seems abnormally short
[10:08] <scandium_> thought so, too ;)
[10:08] <bob2> and by that I mean "impossibly short"
[10:08] <bob2> scandium_: can you do a "md5sum /dev/cdrom" or so of it?
[10:08] <dreamwave> figured it out.  http://ubuntuguide.org is a great resource.
[10:08] <ompaul> Cicakman, its a free world, you can do with is as you choose, however all people here will do for you is try to let you know of the risks, after that it is your call, so for instance if you were a brilliant developer then it might be worth the risk and in fact you might add something to the project, or you could be someone who wants it for learning about, or something else
[10:09] <bob2> Cicakman: have they done a release of it yet?
[10:09] <scandium_> bob2, do you think it would make any sense to try the 32bit version?
[10:09] <bob2> it's not in Debian is weird
[10:09] <bob2> scandium_: I'd try the above thing first
[10:09] <Cicakman> bob2: release of?
[10:09] <bob2> Cicakman: the theme engine
[10:09] <Cicakman> ompaul: hmm... i understand that
[10:09] <Cicakman> bob2: i'm not sure about that
[10:10] <prabu^> Hello all
[10:10] <prabu^> does anyone have a problem where ubuntu just stalls on all http transfers but ftp transfers are fine
[10:10] <clast> no
[10:10] <clast> ^^
[10:10] <prabu^> :
[10:10] <prabu^> :S
[10:11] <clast> prabu^, any firewall settings that could case that?
[10:11] <prabu^> nope
[10:11] <prabu^> i dont got a firewall even
[10:13] <dreamwave> looks like my install updates has stalled on: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[10:13] <dreamwave> no not hat...
[10:13] <dreamwave> that even.
[10:13] <dreamwave> this: Setting up gucharmap (1.4.4-1ubuntu1) ...
[10:15] <calamari> is there a way to set a program that normally requires su or sudo, to be able to run as a normal user without typing a password?
[10:15] <thenuke> I bet there are, I just dont happen to know how you should do it
[10:15] <iiiears>    calamari - the sudoers file?
[10:15] <topyli> calamari: yes, you can shoot yourself in the foot like that
[10:15] <Cicakman> hmm using clearlooks-cairo now
[10:15] <Cicakman> not much difference
[10:15] <calamari> topyli: cool, how?
[10:16] <thenuke> iiiears: sudoers.. he did not want to have some user to be able to be root
[10:16] <dooglus> dreamwave, can you run a separate shell and see what processes are running?
[10:16] <dooglus> calamari: you probably just need to "chmod 4755 <program>"
[10:16] <iiiears> create  a process and a user process group?
[10:17] <topyli> calamari: you can edit the sudoers file and let some users require no password. then sudo won't bother them with one
[10:17] <topyli> calamari: this of course is a very silly thing to do
[10:17] <iiiears> it certainly is
[10:17] <calamari> I don't want it to do this for every program, just one
[10:17] <topyli> calamari: man sudoers. you can do that too
[10:18] <dooglus> calamari: that will make the program run as the user who owns it.  so you'll need to 'chown' the program to root ownership first if it's not already owned by root
[10:18] <dooglus> calamari: what program are you talking about?
[10:18] <iiiears> create a user group for your one process and give it limited rights
[10:18] <iiiears> ?
[10:18] <topyli> calamari: you just don't want to read a man page :)
[10:18] <iiiears> lol
[10:19] <dooglus> lots of people are scared of manpages
[10:19] <TiMiDo> sudo aptitude install build-essential gnome-devel
[10:19] <TiMiDo> Unpacking replacement kscd ...
[10:19] <TiMiDo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:19] <TiMiDo>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdevelop3-data_4%3a3.2.2-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[10:19] <TiMiDo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:19] <TiMiDo> any ideas?
[10:19] <calamari> dooglus: cool, 4755 worked great :)  thanks
[10:20] <dooglus> calamari: be careful.  all your users can now run that program as root without a password.
[10:20] <iiiears> everytime i open a man page some knowledge sneaks in. beginning to wonder what escapes to make room for the new knowledge. - lol
[10:20] <topyli> calamari: including the crackers and broken programs etc.
[10:20] <calamari> dooglus: yeah, I
[10:20] <calamari> 'll be :)
[10:21] <calamari> I'm using it for atitvout.. when I start the tv mode, I lose console
[10:21] <calamari> so I need to be able to type something easily and know it'll work without extra password aggravations
[10:21] <iiiears> calamari do you have an all in wonder card?
[10:21] <Cicakman> why "Open Terminal" is removed from right click popup menu in breezy :(
[10:21] <topyli> calamari: sounds sane. although you seem to have a buggy system too
[10:21] <calamari> nope.. ati rage mobility
[10:22] <calamari> topyli: some tv cards can support dual console and tv out, mine can't
[10:22] <TiMiDo> perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[10:22] <TiMiDo>         LANGUAGE = "en",
[10:22] <TiMiDo>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[10:22] <TiMiDo>         LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
[10:22] <TiMiDo>     are supported and installed on your system.perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[10:22] <TiMiDo> any ideaS?
[10:22] <iiiears> ah okay. battled with mine last week...  It won heh i returned it and got a hauppage
[10:23] <topyli> TiMiDo: well, are the locales "supported and installed"? check with 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'
[10:26] <TiMiDo> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[10:26] <TiMiDo> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[10:26] <TiMiDo> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[10:26] <TiMiDo> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[10:26] <Cicakman> can anyone tell me where i can get w32codecs? it's not in breezy badger's repository....
[10:26] <TiMiDo> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed wtf?
[10:26] <topyli> ouch
[10:26] <iveqy> hi, does anyone know how to let all keystrokes be passed on to the program inside a xterm? I can't find it in the manual...
[10:29] <iiiears> !w32codecs
[10:29] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[10:30] <doubleukay> wow, quite a populated channel
[10:31] <doubleukay> just a quick Q, does anyone know if apt-get works on the livecd? i'm helping a friend troubleshoot over the phone here
[10:31] <Cicakman> doubleukay: dont think so.....
[10:31] <iiiears> mostly friendly too. - lol - well that is until you bring up the age old debate Emacs V. VI. - grin
[10:31] <doubleukay> hehe
[10:31] <doubleukay> i'm a vim user myself :)
[10:32] <NsOmNiAc> I never learned emacs
[10:32] <NsOmNiAc> always use vi or vim
[10:32] <NsOmNiAc> errrr used
[10:32] <doubleukay> i still remember some of its shortcuts.
[10:33] <jnoon> anyone know how to get the commands in a script to display? right now when i run the script it just runs without showing anything .. default bahavior
[10:33] <topyli> btw, does the original vi still exist somewhere? would it compile on linux?
[10:33] <doubleukay> jnoon, if it's a bourne shell script, you can add -x or -v to the shebang
[10:33] <jnoon> doubleukay thanks
[10:34] <doubleukay> no worries
[10:34] <topyli> hrm. gnome torrent needs notification area support. it's quite a useless window most of the time
[10:35] <beti6> hi] 
[10:36] <p0windah> moaning girlos and boyos
[10:36] <beti6> sup
[10:37] <coobra> sponcor me with Thongs to a girl i know :
[10:37] <coobra> :P
[10:37] <Cicakman> how can i add "open terminal" to the popup menu?
[10:39] <daejavu> ive installed EnemyTerritory and want to give its complete Ownership to a user .. how do i do that ?
[10:40] <daejavu> how do i give complete rights/ownership  to a user ?
[10:41] <jarkom18> any body know how to make floppy recovery from ubuntu..??
[10:42] <jarkom18> i try grub-install /dev/fd0 it's doesn't work...
[10:42] <TiMiDo> damn this is weird,
[10:45] <shinu> anyone using a toshiba l10 192 laptop?
[10:46] <No1Viking> Tried to upgrade to Breezy but got errors in locales. What do I need to do to get it resolved?
[10:46] <doubleukay> daejavu, you mean like, give some user root privileges?
[10:48] <topyli> daejavu: if you mean file permissions, then just chown the file to the user or to a group the user belongs to, then chmod the permissions you want
[10:49] <iiiears> jarkom18 - would a generic boot floppy help? "tmsrtbt" is good
[10:49] <BurgerMann> There is a way to change the default Charset used by Ubuntu, from UTF-8 to ISO-.... Does anyone know how or a resource to how?
[10:49] <hoary> tmsrtbt ?? what is it ?
[10:50] <iiiears> i'll get the link
[10:50] <TiMiDo> !Hoary
[10:50] <ubotu> somebody said hoary was a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[10:51] <beti6> anyone from the philippines here
[10:51] <No1Viking> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2731  <--- any ideas how to solve this, else I can not upgrade to Breezy
[10:51] <No1Viking> ?
[10:51] <iiiears> http://www.toms.net/rb/
[10:51] <thenuke> No1Viking: Breezy is not for you then
[10:52] <hoary> iiiears : what is tmsrtbt?
[10:52] <thenuke> No1Viking: if you dont know how to handle problems what comes with it :D
[10:52] <No1Viking> thenuke: Please elaborate why
[10:53] <ccooke> No1Viking: Upgrading an installed distribution is a difficult problem. It can be done, but if you have much software from other sources, it becomes increasingly nontrivial.
[10:53] <daejavu> doubleukay, nops i have a game folder of which permissions are for only Root .. i want a normal user to have all of its permissions and ownership
[10:53] <iiiears> not.toms.net/twiki/bin/view/Tomsrtbt/QuestionsAnswer the tmsrtbt wiki
[10:53] <thenuke> No1Viking: Just said it, if you dont know how to handle the problems
[10:53] <No1Viking> ccooke: So it's better to install from the CD?
[10:53] <strat> i just compiled the last wine..it installed it under  /usr/local/lib.....where is the ldconfig file at under  /etc/..so i can add /usr/local/lib   to its path???
[10:54] <ccooke> No1Viking: Especially since Breezy hasn't been released yet, so the upgrade process hasn't been fully tweaked yet.
[10:54] <ccooke> No1Viking: if you want breezy, yes.
[10:54] <doubleukay> daejavu, checkout topylis answer
[10:54] <BurgerMann> Don't anyone know how to change from default UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1?
[10:54] <No1Viking> thenuke: I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales but only get errors
[10:54] <TiMiDo> BurgerMann, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:54] <daejavu> doubleukay, copy that .. it worked :D .. thanks !
[10:54] <TiMiDo> No1Viking, such as?
[10:54] <beti6> sup
[10:54] <thenuke> No1Viking: oh, it is going to be officially released very soon :) I did not know that, well wait a few weeks?
[10:54] <No1Viking> Thanks ccooke
[10:54] <ccooke> No1Viking: Be aware that it's still a preview release. You should use the latest CD - Colony 5, from the topic.
[10:54] <BurgerMann> TiMiDo: thx :)
[10:55] <ccooke> No1Viking: and also, be aware that (while it is mostly stable) some things may not work yet
[10:55] <ccooke> No1Viking: for instance - I can't mount a windows share yet.
[10:55] <thenuke> No1Viking: and ooooh, I did not figure it out that the upcoming release is not the final X-)
[10:55] <BioLinux> ciao ragazzi
[10:55] <thenuke> No1Viking: blah, Just stay out of it ok :D  it will propably break
[10:55] <ccooke> thenuke: that's not helpful.
[10:56] <TiMiDo> same error i had No1Viking
[10:56] <thenuke> ccooke: general policy of the channel as far as I know, is NOT TO help  uncapable ppl to break their systems, ok?
[10:56] <No1Viking> OK, TiMiDo
[10:56] <TiMiDo> what error did it came out, when u apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:57] <No1Viking> thenuke: stop that crap
[10:57] <daejavu> btw anyone playes EnemyTerritory and is having Sound issues ?
[10:57] <No1Viking> you know nothing about me thenuke
[10:58] <hoary> i try root@jarkom18:/home/jarkom18 # grub-install --root-directory=/media/floppy '(fd0)'
[10:58] <hoary> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/floppy/boot': Read-only file system
[10:58] <thenuke> No1Viking: are you a bit stupid or what part you do not understand? if you dont know how to handle depedency problems, breezy just IS NOT for you
[10:58] <ccooke> thenuke: that's fine. But you don't have to be so dismissive about it. More to the point, it's much harder to do an upgrade than a fresh install. And we *Want* as many people to try the preview as possible.
[10:58] <thenuke> ccooke: ok, my mistake then
[10:58] <strat> anyone know where and what the name of the file  is that i can add a lib  path..need to add /usr/local/lib  to get wine working..
[10:58] <ccooke> thenuke: well, let's check.
[10:59] <ccooke> Everyone: General opinion - is Breezy stable enough for curious people who aren't massively skilled?
[10:59] <ccooke> I think it is, but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise - we're still just under two weeks from release, after all.
[10:59] <Cicakman> ++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:59] <Cicakman>  -> anyone can give me a clue what this means?
[11:00] <NsOmNiAc> I'm having problems mounting an additonal hard drive anyone have any links to guides ?
[11:00] <ccooke> No1Viking: I'd listen to the opinions here. There are a lot of people here who know their stuff and have tried Breezy.
[11:00] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: tried the one here?
[11:00] <TiMiDo> Rebuilding the database. This may take some time..
[11:01] <ccooke> !tell NsOmNiAc about windowsdrives
[11:01] <NsOmNiAc> ccooke it's another linux drive
[11:02] <TiMiDo> No1Viking, what error u got when u dist-upgrade to breezy?
[11:02] <NsOmNiAc> ../dev/hdb1   *           1       76505    38558488+  83  Linux
[11:02] <NsOmNiAc> ../dev/hdb2           76506       77545      524160   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[11:02] <No1Viking> TiMiDo: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2731
[11:02] <TiMiDo> alright
[11:02] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: Okay. What have you tried?
[11:03] <TiMiDo> No1Viking, rm /var/cache/apt/archives/wine_0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:03] <TiMiDo> and then do the dist-upgrade again
[11:03] <NsOmNiAc> berkowitz:nsomniac~ % mount /dev/hdb1
[11:03] <NsOmNiAc> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:03] <No1Viking> OK
[11:04] <pschulz01> Has anyone here tried to install ubuntu on an 'ipod' as an external usb drive? Colony 4 almost worked, but I had some problems with grub.
[11:04] <Trashcan> 2am monday morning :(
[11:04] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: ah, okay.
[11:04] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: you need to add it to /etc/fstab.
[11:05] <propagandhi> pschulz01: I have installed heaps of distros on external usb drives, most often u get a kernel panic VFS unable to sync root filesystem, is that what you got? if so theres an easy fix
[11:05] <TiMiDo> No1Viking, nope
[11:05] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: do you know how to do that?
[11:05] <iiiears> Ns0m - check out ubotu's link to winmac_fstab nice easy script
[11:05] <iiiears> !ntfs
[11:05] <TiMiDo> No1Viking, did you do apt-get -f install ?
[11:05] <NsOmNiAc> mind walking me through it .. I'm clueless when it comes to doing that
[11:05] <TiMiDo> No1Viking, yeah breeze hasen't come out yet that's why locales are broken
[11:05] <Cicakman> has anyone ever installed java on ubuntu?
[11:06] <TiMiDo> !tell Cicakman about java
[11:06] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: Might get grabbed for a meeting - I'm at work. But I don't mind :-)
[11:06] <No1Viking> Ok, thanks TiMiDo
[11:06] <TiMiDo> Cicakman, read the uRl that ubotu give ya
[11:06] <TiMiDo> np No1Viking
[11:06] <NsOmNiAc> very cool thanks
[11:06] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: Okay, first thing is to create the directory it'll be mounted on.
[11:06] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: what is the disk for?
[11:06] <iiiears> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[11:06] <ccooke> iiiears: not useful here.
[11:06] <NsOmNiAc> music
[11:06] <pschulz01> propagandhi: No.. the installer corrupted the previously installed Redhat grub configuration (hda) rather than the usb drive (sda).
[11:07] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: Okay. here's what you do:
[11:07] <pschulz01> I would like to know if you've been able to do it with Ubuntu?
[11:07] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: sudo mkdir /media/Music
[11:07] <propagandhi> ahh i see what you mean
[11:07] <NsOmNiAc> done
[11:07] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:08] <propagandhi> i have done ubuntu on a USB drive yes, but i chose not to install grub at the end, and instead do it manually later
[11:08] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: what filesystem did you create ?
[11:08] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: ext3? reiser?
[11:08] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: (have you created it yet?)
[11:08] <NsOmNiAc> yes
[11:09] <pschulz01> propagandhi: How do you do that? grub; root (sda1); setup(sda) ?
[11:09] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: what command did you use to create the filesystem?
[11:09] <propagandhi> grub-install /dev/hdxX
[11:09] <Cicakman> TiMiDo: thx... but i want to installl j2ee sdk, not j2se sdk... and the instructions there does not work for me
[11:09] <No1Viking> TiMiDo: Seems to work now!! :)
[11:09] <NsOmNiAc> sudo fdisk /dev/hdb1
[11:09] <propagandhi> also ur BIOS has to support USB boot
[11:09] <TiMiDo> cool No1Viking
[11:10] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: hmm.
[11:10] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: okay, get another shell  up, please.
[11:10] <NsOmNiAc> got it
[11:10] <pschulz01> propagandhi: Yeah... the machine that I was installing from only has USB FD option, so I couldn't test the install.
[11:10] <NsOmNiAc> have 9 up
[11:10] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: I'd like you to type 'sudo fdisk -ls /dev/hdb'
[11:11] <ccooke> !tell NsOmNiAc about paste
[11:11] <No1Viking> thenuke: You are right, I'm not that good at linux.   :)
[11:11] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: and use the paste link ubotu just gave you to give us a link to the result
[11:11] <pschulz01> propagandhi: How do I go about  raising this as a possible bug?
[11:11] <Trewas> meh, suspend used to work fine with 5.10 preview version with a ibm a20p laptop, now with breezy upgraded to newest packages it never wakes up after suspend
[11:12] <NsOmNiAc> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2732
[11:13] <ccooke> great
[11:13] <ormandj> what command lets me search available packages for a filename?
[11:13] <ormandj> i need DB.php but i can't figure out which package it's in
[11:13] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: Okay, that looks good.
[11:13] <Zaphod_42> Trevas: got the same with an IBM T42 :(
[11:13] <ormandj> php5-pear didn't include it
[11:13] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: Is there any data on the disk yet?
[11:13] <NsOmNiAc> none
[11:13] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: have you used any other commands to make the filesystem?
[11:13] <NsOmNiAc> no
[11:14] <bob2> ormandj: packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file
[11:14] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: okay. Quick lesson - fdisk is a tool that will carve up bits of the disk and set some features about them
[11:14] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: it makes the partitions, but not the actual filesystem
[11:14] <NsOmNiAc> thanks again for your time
[11:14] <ormandj> bob2: thanks
[11:14] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: to make the filesystem, you use a second tool called mkfs
[11:14] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: so, to make the filesystem, do this:
[11:15] <NsOmNiAc> so mkfs /dev/hdb1 ?
[11:15] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: sudo mkfs.ext2 -j /dev/hdb1
[11:15] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: (this selects the ext2/3 version of mkfs. The -j means it will use ext3 instead of ext2. ext3 is journalled, which makes it much more reliable)
[11:16] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: that'll output a load of data as it formats the partition
[11:16] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: done?
[11:16] <NsOmNiAc> done
[11:16] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: good.
[11:17] <NsOmNiAc> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2733
[11:17] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: now,. back to your gedit
[11:17] <NsOmNiAc> still got it open
[11:17] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: without changing anything else, add this line:
[11:18] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: /dev/sdb1   /media/Music    ext3   defaults   0 0
[11:18] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: Okay?
[11:18] <Toma-> if my cpu keeps over heating in a room thats quite warm, should i get a new cpu fan or a new case fan?
[11:18] <NsOmNiAc> done
[11:18] <NsOmNiAc> it's sdb instead of hdb ?
[11:19] <pschulz01> propagandhi: Thanks.. I'm wandering over to 'ubuntu-devel'
[11:19] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: No, that's me mistyping
[11:19] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: I'm used to scsi, sorry
[11:19] <NsOmNiAc> ahhh okie
[11:19] <NsOmNiAc> heh
[11:19] <NsOmNiAc> so hdb1
[11:19] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: Okay.
[11:19] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: save and exit
[11:19] <NsOmNiAc> updated
[11:20] <NsOmNiAc> done
[11:20] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: then, to make it mount the disk, type mount -av
[11:20] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: (the -a means 'mount everything not already mounted, the -v tells it to let you know what it does)
[11:20] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: does it mount the disk?
[11:20] <NsOmNiAc> ..
[11:21] <NsOmNiAc> paste the results one second
[11:21] <^bluestone^> May I have some help as to why my wireless card (supported linksys wpc11) doesn't show up as a pcmcia device?
[11:21] <selinium> Toma- : Either or both. the case fan will blow out warm air that has built up in the box, the cpu fan will try to cool the chip directly, There is a trade off for noise of course..
[11:21] <NsOmNiAc> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2734
[11:21] <Toma-> mmm
[11:22] <Toma-> its a brand new cpu fan, can with the new cpu. does thermal paste do wonders?
[11:22] <p0windah> well it works
[11:22] <selinium> Toma-, take a look at www.overclockers.com for hints and tips! :)
[11:22] <Toma-> ightio
[11:22] <Toma-> *r
[11:23] <dcox> hi there
[11:23] <selinium> Toma-, thermal paste does make a difference yes, air is a good insulator
[11:23] <Iggy> how i can update kernel linux 386 in 686?
[11:23] <bjv> when submitting a bug report what goes in the box "URL"??
[11:23] <Iggy> apt-get install...
[11:23] <NsOmNiAc> is it going to show itself as cdrom0 ?
[11:23] <bjv> do i even need it?
[11:24] <nomike> hi
[11:24] <NsOmNiAc> wait
[11:24] <NsOmNiAc> nope
[11:24] <NsOmNiAc> Music
[11:24] <Oetzi> hi
[11:24] <NsOmNiAc> cool
[11:24] <TiMiDo> Oetzi, hi
[11:24] <NsOmNiAc> 34.3 gig free space
[11:24] <nomike> I want to back up my system. I booted from an ubuntu live cd and mounted my filesystems...
[11:24] <p0windah> Toma-: not sure where in the world you live, but the ambient room temperature can make a big difference too
[11:24] <NsOmNiAc> so now that it's in fstab it will mount automatically at boot right ?
[11:24] <Oetzi> can anyone tell me a good image-batch-conversion tool for linux
[11:25] <Toma-> p0windah: australia... im in a little room above the roof. basically surrounded by insulation :(
[11:25] <dcox> anyone know a good MSN client for ubuntu ?
[11:25] <bob2> dcox: gaim
[11:25] <nomike> I know i could do "tar cf - | ssh | tar xf - " but I want to preserve the tar file on the target machine...
[11:25] <NsOmNiAc> gaim dcox
[11:25] <bob2> fsvo good
[11:25] <^bluestone^> any way to restart pcmcia?
[11:25] <bjv> Toma-: with older CPU's i could get away with just polishing the heatsink and proc
[11:25] <dcox> bob2 thanks man!
[11:25] <p0windah> Toma-: where in aus ? up north or..
[11:25] <bob2> nomike: theyn just dump it out on the other end
[11:25] <Toma-> south... perth
[11:25] <bjv> i dont think elbow grease is enough for modern procs though.
[11:25] <bob2> nomike: and extract it later
[11:25] <Toma-> bjv: its a sempron 2800
[11:25] <bjv> definitely a case for some kind of heat-compound.
[11:25] <Oetzi> ^bluestone^: /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart
[11:26] <p0windah> Toma-: ah ok, well during summer try to either run air. con or keep a window open that has some external shade covering it
[11:26] <bjv> maybe not articsilver, but something.
[11:26] <nomike> bob2: how? is there a program which saves standard input to a file?
[11:26] <^bluestone^> thanks, Oetzi
[11:26] <NsOmNiAc> bugger
[11:26] <NsOmNiAc> can't write it
[11:26] <nomike> Or could I use > somehow?
[11:26] <Toma-> rightio. thanks!
[11:26] <^bluestone^> hang on
[11:26] <bob2> nomike: eh?
[11:26] <ekimus> nomike: tar cf tarfile.tar source && scp tarfile.tar remote:
[11:26] <dcox> bob2 oops! didn't mention it should be a command line client
[11:26] <bob2> nomike: tar cf - | ssh | cat > blah.tar
[11:26] <p0windah> Toma-: I used to live in oz too, but whatever your cooling arrangement inside your pc, if your room is hot.... you're just sucking hot air into your machine and blowing it over an already hot heatsink
[11:26] <bob2> dcox: I use bitlbee for that
[11:27] <nomike> ekimus: there is not enough local space
[11:27] <Toma-> yeh :(
[11:27] <tessa> hi
[11:27] <ekimus> nomike: so just preserver the file on the remote machine?
[11:27] <dcox> thanks man ... trying it out!
[11:27] <Toma-> so a better cpu fan would be better? rather than a case fan in a hot room?
[11:27] <NsOmNiAc> ok fixed
[11:27] <nomike> bob2: doesn't the > blah.tar get interpreted by the local shell?
[11:27] <nomike> yes
[11:27] <NsOmNiAc> sweet thanks so much
[11:27] <^bluestone^> nope, still not there under ifconfig
[11:27] <tessa> i'm currently trying to geht my medion md 6228 scanner to work.
[11:27] <nomike> I want to make a tarfile with the contents of / and store it directly on another server...
[11:28] <p0windah> Toma-: get some thermal paste for starters and figure out a way to drop the temp in your room
[11:28] <ekimus> nomike: man mkfifo (create a 100 mb fifo, tar to that file, scp that file to remote and save it as a tar archive)
[11:28] <Toma-> rightio
[11:28] <bob2> nomike: oh, wait
[11:28] <tessa> http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=medion&model=md6228&bus=usb says it is supported, there shall be a "sane-genesys" backend but i cannot find a "genesys.conf" in /etc/sane.d/
[11:28] <bob2> nomike: tar cf - | ssh usr@host 'cat > blah.tar'
[11:28] <Toma-> ive got insulation batts about and below the room... maybe i should install an aircon up here :(
[11:28] <p0windah> Toma-: I have two windows on different sides of the office here, so I installed an industrial exhaust fan on the hotter side of the room and opened the window on the cooler
[11:29] <Toma-> hehe
[11:29] <p0windah> Toma-: made a huge difference
[11:29] <selinium> Toma-, Getting a cpu fan that just blasts hot air onto your cpu is not going to help too much.. You really need to look at cooling the ambiant temperature if you can.  :)
[11:29] <bob2> nomike: if you just want to get the data over there, tho, rync is what you want
[11:30] <Toma-> selinium: thanks for repeating p0windah :D
[11:30] <^bluestone^> I'm going to try to find some driver (though it's supposed to be supported in the kernel)
[11:30] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: sorry - still there?
[11:30] <lemics_> hi every1
[11:30] <NsOmNiAc> yeahhhh
[11:30] <NsOmNiAc> it's mounted at Music
[11:30] <p0windah> Toma-: you need to head down to a bunnings and buy some "tubing" :)
[11:30] <NsOmNiAc> updated the permissions on it so I could write it
[11:30] <NsOmNiAc> and looks like it's working
[11:30] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: great
[11:30] <Toma-> tubing you say?
[11:30] <NsOmNiAc> thanks again so much for your time
[11:31] <selinium> Toma-, Fans are cheap anyway, get both, its cheaper then replacing you cpu! Sorry I missed p0windah post! :)
[11:31] <Toma-> stick a tube outside and stick a fan on that? :D
[11:31] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: I was going to suggest a slightly different way, but I was bemeetinged
[11:31] <NsOmNiAc> moving all the files of music over to it now
[11:31] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: the head sysadmin here has just returned from a month's holiday touring Australia with his band...
[11:31] <NsOmNiAc> something else I could have done ?
[11:31] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: and was *just a little* behind on events :-)
[11:31] <NsOmNiAc> ahhh sweet
[11:31] <p0windah> Toma-: if you enjoy doing the handy man thing, yeah just grab some insulated tubing and vent all that ot air straight out of the room
[11:32] <NsOmNiAc> a month is a LONG time
[11:32] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: oh yes.
[11:32] <Comco> what's the sysadmin's band's name?
[11:32] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: I was amazed that the company let him do it
[11:32] <NsOmNiAc> especially with the way things change
[11:32] <NsOmNiAc> sounds like a bad ass company
[11:32] <Toma-> p0windah: should i make an exhaust or intake?
[11:32] <ccooke> Comco: the Zillions, IIRC
[11:32] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: quite fun to work for.
[11:32] <net08> hello everyone, Can you help me with my LTSP?
[11:32] <NsOmNiAc> I worked for MSPG for 5 years then Earthlink came along and fucked it all up
[11:33] <NsOmNiAc> <3 Mindspring
[11:33] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: ah, earthlink. Yes.
[11:33] <[LethAL] > And f this isn't offtopic, I dread to think what it
[11:33] <[LethAL] > is*
[11:33] <No1Viking> ccooke: Am running Breezy now!  :-)
[11:33] <p0windah> Toma-: exhaust is gonna be cheaper. you can get some nice fans with external flaps that seal off when the fan is turned off
[11:33] <[LethAL] > if*
[11:33] <ekimus> .oO(this all sounds like a part of user friendly)
[11:33] <ccooke> No1Viking: good!
[11:33] <p0windah> Toma-: plus you wont need to deal with incoming bugs and water :)
[11:33] <ccooke> ekimus: what?
[11:34] <Toma-> mmm
[11:34] <[LethAL] > net08, What's your problem?
[11:34] <ekimus> ccooke: company a is cool but fucked up by company b and the employees are discussing it
[11:34] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: the alternate route to permissions, by the way, would be to creating a directory under /media/Music named after your user, with write permission.
[11:35] <p0windah> Toma-: I have three machines I stuck up the top of a wooden shelf here, all their PSU pointed at exhaust and stuck a big piece of perspex to guide the air out
[11:35] <net08> It does'nt detect my kbd.
[11:35] <NsOmNiAc> ahhhh I can still do that
[11:35] <ccooke> ekimus: that's because quite a bit of the setting of UF is based in reality. Hell, that's it's appeal...
[11:35] <ccooke> ditto dilbert.
[11:35] <p0windah> Toma-: crude, but very effective
[11:35] <Toma-> cool
[11:35] <NsOmNiAc> ccooke if I'm the only user does it matter though ?
[11:35] <Toma-> literally :O
[11:35] <ekimus> ccooke: i know just never thought that i can watch it live :)
[11:36] <glenn> hello
[11:36] <lemics_> hi
[11:36] <glenn> how can i install wine?
[11:36] <[LethAL] > net08, Which keyboard?
[11:36] <Toma-> i dont have the side panel on my case on aswell. its helping a tad.
[11:36] <[LethAL] > !wine
[11:36] <net08> ps2
[11:36] <glenn> yes
[11:36] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: not really, no. I just try to suggest the 'cleanest' answer, since I don't know your system :-)
[11:36] <[LethAL] > !tell glenn about wine
[11:36] <Hoxzer> Is there any CD player that can be run in fullscreen on gnome
[11:37] <tessa> glenn, via synaptic, search for wine
[11:37] <selinium> Toma-, You can buy a portable airconditioner for around 250 that would be the best solution if you can afford it.
[11:37] <Toma-> selinium: no.
[11:37] <p0windah> bleh
[11:37] <NsOmNiAc> hehe ccooke thanks so much for all your patience and hel p
[11:37] <ccooke> ekimus: Systems administration teaches you to love a good train-wreck. Either that, or you go insane.
[11:37] <glenn> ok
[11:37] <p0windah> expensive to run, and no1 thinks its cool when you show em a portable aircon :)
[11:37] <davro> glen: apt-cache search wine, find what you want apt-get install wine, or use synaptic.
[11:37] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: no problem. Sorry I had to vanish.
[11:37] <Toma-> i think ill make a duct and see how that does
[11:38] <NsOmNiAc> ccooke you pretty much showed me what needed to be done and it's up and running moving files over to it now
[11:38] <NsOmNiAc> 8-)
[11:38] <p0windah> Toma-: let me take a snap and I'll show you my office hackery
[11:38] <selinium> p0windah, true, but cutting holes and pipes and stuff..
[11:38] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: there's a lot of help in this channel.
[11:38] <NsOmNiAc> I try to help when I can
[11:39] <lemics_> nice
[11:39] <`helix> can ayone give me an example for ubuntus multi-universe
[11:39] <NsOmNiAc> <3 Ubuntu
[11:39] <bozzu> how can i install jdk on breezy?
[11:39] <`helix> i mean for multivese
[11:39] <NsOmNiAc> I have been using FreeBSD for so long .. when I was using linux it was Debian ... tried Ubuntu out and I'm in love
[11:39] <lemics_> lol i must say they did a great job w ubuntu
[11:39] <[LethAL] > bozzu, I've seen it in Synaptic...
[11:40] <topyli> i guess many ubuntu users come from debian
[11:40] <boxerboy29> ubuntu has that about it it kinda reels you in
[11:40] <glenn> after i marked the wine what should i do? thank u so mch
[11:40] <ccooke> boxerboy29: It does its best to be transparent. That's *important*
[11:40] <[LethAL] > glenn, Click apply ;)
[11:40] <NsOmNiAc> no doubt
[11:40] <boxerboy29> i have sarge running on other pc and breezy ont his one i have to say breezy is 99% better
[11:41] <selinium> Toma-, have a look around the overclockers site, the give different priced solutions, including vents that may be less cost/hassle in the long run. http://overclockers.com/articles1256/
[11:41] <lemics_> i'm now studying LPI and ubuntu is perfect for it
[11:41] <bozzu> [LethAL] , i installed it via synaptic on hoary but i can find it on breezy repositories
[11:41] <davro> console, sudo apt-get install wine  just seems easier.
[11:41] <ccooke> LPI?
[11:41] <[LethAL] > bozzu, repos...
[11:41] <lemics_> some certificate shit but good www.lpi.org
[11:41] <Karnivore> I really want to use Ubuntu but its a no go with a powerbook which is really a shame
[11:42] <boxerboy29> will wine run any .exe files? or just certain ones?
[11:42] <[LethAL] > bozzu, The Universe one, that is
[11:42] <bob2> Karnivore: ?
[11:42] <Toma-> selinium: i need the room to be cooler, not the cpu
[11:42] <[LethAL] > boxerboy29, It will try to run any
[11:42] <davro> Linux Professional Institute, another way of getting knowledge by proxy of paper
[11:42] <boxerboy29> lol @ try
[11:42] <Karnivore> the touchpad doesnt work with the 12"
[11:42] <Toma-> maybe i should get into some liquid cooling
[11:42] <glenn> when i click apply there is an error "some of the packages could not be retrieved from server
[11:42] <markmark> boxerboy29: some. it's a bit hit and miss
[11:42] <bjv> boxerboy29: i have found that a very low % of .exe that were authored in Visual Basic will run
[11:43] <bjv> vb is trash.
[11:43] <selinium> Toma-, good luck it. :)
[11:43] <[LethAL] > +1 bjv
[11:43] <selinium> Toma-, like lager! :)
[11:43] <bob2> Karnivore: is there a bug report about it?
[11:43] <bozzu> [LethAL] , no it's on backports. but i don't know if it's a good idea to mix breezy with hoary-backports....
[11:43] <[LethAL] > bozzu, On breezy, it's in universe. I'm looking at it now
[11:44] <Karnivore> no bob2 I believe I read it on the site, I couldnt believe it so I booted a LiveCD, all loaded fine but couldnt use the cursor
[11:44] <bozzu> [LethAL] , what is package name?
[11:45] <[LethAL] > bozzu, Umm... wine
[11:45] <[LethAL] > ;)
[11:45] <bob2> Karnivore: if there isn't a bug report on bugzilla.ubuntu.com, it may get forgotten
[11:45] <Karnivore> damn
[11:45] <chulo> hola
[11:46] <[LethAL] > !es
[11:46] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:46] <Karnivore> I'll have to write one
[11:46] <chulo> thx
[11:46] <bozzu> [LethAL] , ?? :)
[11:46] <boxerboy29> the bot speaks more than english?
[11:46] <boxerboy29> lol
[11:46] <[LethAL] > bozzu, My wireless dropped, did you say anything after I said ";)"?
[11:47] <[LethAL] > !tell boxerboy29 about de
[11:47] <[LethAL] > !tell boxerboy29 about nl
[11:47] <[LethAL] > !tell boxerboy29 about fr
[11:47] <[LethAL] > ;)
[11:47] <bozzu> [LethAL] , i said "??". i'm looking for jdk...
[11:47] <boxerboy29> lol
[11:48] <[LethAL] > bozzu, I was confusing you with the guy who wanted help with Wine... my bad :P
[11:48] <[LethAL] > bozzu, free-java-dsk
[11:48] <[LethAL] > sdk*
[11:48] <bozzu> [LethAL] , anyway wine is in universe, you were right :)
[11:48] <[LethAL] > :P
[11:49] <bozzu> that's not the sun one, but it will be ok. thanks!
[11:49] <boxerboy29> what is a "similar" distro to ubuntu not including kubuntu or debian? i can just see it now there is none but thought id ask
[11:49] <[LethAL] > :)
[11:49] <[LethAL] > boxerboy29, In which way?
[11:49] <p0windah> http://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=00001.21.jpg and http://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=00002.10.jpg <- my sweet cooling solution for hot hong kong nights :)
[11:50] <p0windah> work safe and ubuntu friendly
[11:50] <propagandhi> bozzu: why dont u just download it from java.sun.com and install it??
[11:50] <boxerboy29> im duel booting debian and ubuntu now and debian not good on this pc so i put it on a different one a distro that has kde and or gnome and will see ubuntu so i dont have to reinstall it
[11:51] <bozzu> propagandhi: i used to install it via synaptic on hoary, so i was looking for the same thing here on breezy. but maybe i'll do in that way
[11:51] <boxerboy29> im looking for an os that has kdevelop mainly
[11:52] <propagandhi> bozzu: ok, but i have found the jdk is not that hard to install and use, plus at least you know its the official
[11:52] <Hoxzer> Is it possible to setup somehow any software to total full screen in gnome?
[11:52] <NsOmNiAc> brb
[11:52] <Hoxzer> Becouse I would like to setup grip like that
[11:53] <Hoxzer> maybe I should just use diffrend  desktop in htpc
[11:53] <topyli> Hoxzer: i think it's ctrl-return by default
[11:53] <topyli> Hoxzer: but i don't know how to set it up permanently
[11:53] <ozahir> hi
[11:53] <ubuntu> how to install gyach?
[11:54] <ozahir> i have a problem instaling the extrarepositories, there's something wrong with the backdoors?
[11:54] <boxerboy29> anyone used or use x\os 4?
[11:55] <Hoxzer> Topyli: hmmm.....return? :D
[11:55] <ozahir> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages
[11:55] <ozahir>   404 Not Found
[11:55] <Hoxzer> how does it look?
[11:55] <topyli> Hoxzer: well, return, enter, as you wish :)
[11:55] <boxerboy29> mirror max backports have been shut down
[11:55] <poningru> ozahir: use the official ones
[11:55] <poningru> !backports
[11:55] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:56] <Hoxzer> Ctrl-enter?
[11:56] <Hoxzer> eh...
[11:56] <ozahir> thx
[11:56] <topyli> Hoxzer: i seem to remember so. i've set it to ctrl-alt-enter though
[11:56] <topyli> Hoxzer: so i can't be sure what it was before
[11:56] <boxerboy29> is breezy still using hoary backports or did we get our own yet?
[11:56] <bob2> boxerboy29: dude
[11:56] <topyli> hehe
[11:57] <bob2> boxerboy29: how could their *possibly* be breezy backports?
[11:57] <poningru> rofl
[11:57] <bob2> boxerboy29: there's nothing for the backports people to copy code from yet
[11:57] <[LethAL] > lmao
[11:57] <boxerboy29> ive seen them but they were unofficail
[11:57] <bob2> no
[11:57] <topyli> boxerboy29: it was surely a hallucination
[11:58] <Chase> hay, does anyone know how i can get usbstorage ( or really anyother kernel module) from loading when i plug a device in?
[11:58] <Hoxzer> LOL
[11:58] <Hoxzer> I pressed ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:58] <ozahir> :)
[11:58] <Hoxzer> so what button is :D return
[11:58] <[LethAL] > Heh
[11:58] <boxerboy29> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[11:58] <[LethAL] > Hoxzer, The one below backspace :P
[11:58] <boxerboy29> thats not me seeing things
[11:59] <boxerboy29> thats in the breezy guide
[11:59] <ProN00b> whats ctrl+alt+backspace do ?
[11:59] <Hoxzer> Well it doesn't work
[11:59] <bob2> "breezy guide"?
[11:59] <bob2> ProN00b: kill X
[11:59] <boxerboy29> but still unoffical
[11:59] <bob2> boxerboy29: also, note that that repository does not actually exist
[11:59] <boxerboy29> bob2: ur help launcher has breezy guide
[11:59] <ProN00b> kill x ?
[11:59] <ProN00b> cool
[11:59] <[LethAL] > boxerboy29, It's not there... foo
[11:59] <[LethAL] > boxerboy29 is breezy still using hoary backports or did we get our own yet?
[11:59] <bob2> boxerboy29: you putting things in your sources.list != things existing
[11:59] <[LethAL] > Argh
[11:59] <topyli> Hoxzer: i think more modern people than me usually call it the Enter key i guess :)
[11:59] <[LethAL] > http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[12:00] <[LethAL] > ^^ No breezy backports
[12:00] <boxerboy29> i have hosry in my sources list
[12:00] <Hoxzer> Topyli: yeah, I would have understood that better :P
[12:00] <bob2> boxerboy29: well, whatever documentation told you they exist is misleading you
[12:00] <boxerboy29> hoary*
[12:00] <topyli> Hoxzer: too much emacs manuals :)
[12:00] <boxerboy29> its from the life guard looking float looking icon
[12:01] <bob2> ok, it's still wrong
[12:01] <boxerboy29> ty thats what i wanted to know
[12:01] <topyli> "to enter full screen mode in gnome, press Meta-Control-RET"
[12:03] <ProN00b> press what ?
[12:03] <[LethAL] > ProN00b, IIRC, Meta == Alt
[12:03] <ZBlach> goof morning
[12:03] <Jehfvel> anyone been able to solve the problem with xorg/gnome eating the cpu (nvida card) ?
[12:03] <[LethAL] > goof mornign to you too
[12:03] <topyli> ProN00b: that would be alt-ctrl-enter
[12:03] <topyli> obviously :)
[12:04] <ZBlach> its too early for me
[12:04] <[LethAL] > Hehe
[12:04] <[LethAL] > Well I should be in school :P
[12:04] <ZBlach> I'm struggling to associate my wireless card with my router.
[12:04] <ZBlach> I should be asleep
[12:04] <ProN00b> Jehfvel, thats normal behavior
[12:04] <topyli> i should be at the bar
[12:04] <topyli> soon will too :)
[12:04] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, more info?
[12:04] <[LethAL] > WEP, WPA, Chipsets?
[12:04] <Jehfvel> ProN00b: hehe, then ubuntu is finished for me
[12:05] <guillem101> Is it better to wait to Breezy be released or to upgrade just now?
[12:05] <ZBlach> sure. uh.. WEP, using the Broadcom (can't remember) chipset
[12:05] <ZBlach> 4301
[12:05] <ZBlach> its a linksys wmp11v2.7 wireless card, and it works wonders in win
[12:05] <bob2> ZBlach: does it work with WEP disabled?
[12:05] <[LethAL] > Oh...
[12:06] <bob2> ZBlach: does it work if you set it up statically withou DHCP?
[12:06] <[LethAL] > Broadcom routers are fine, the cards aren't
[12:06] <ZBlach> bob2, nope. tried that too. neither DHCP nor static IP work for me
[12:06] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, but you see the adapter in sysem-config-networking?
[12:06] <[LethAL] > network-admin even
[12:06] <ZBlach> i'm running breezy 09/09
[12:06] <ccooke> ProN00b: normal behaviour? are you sure?
[12:06] <ZBlach> network admin reports no errors
[12:07] <ZBlach> and i can sudo iwlist wlan0 scan for it
[12:07] <poningru> Jehfvel: you sure its that combo?
[12:07] <bob2> ZBlach: with WEP disabled?
[12:07] <ZBlach> bob2, tried both with no success
[12:07] <Jehfvel> poningru: what ?
[12:07] <ZBlach> plus, the computer i'm on now is wireless, so i'll lose my connection with changes there
[12:07] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, do iwconfig and look at the Link quality...
[12:07] <poningru> Jehfvel: do you have powernowd or respective tech installed?
[12:07] <bob2> ZBlach: sounds like you need tot talk to the ndiswrapper people
[12:07] <ProN00b> ccooke, its 15% of my ram and cpu
[12:07] <Jehfvel> poningru: i uninstalled it
[12:08] <ZBlach> iwconfig reports 100/100 connection to an access point of all zeroes
[12:08] <ccooke> ProN00b: ah, okay. that's not so bad.
[12:08] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, sounds like you're cards ad-hoc'ing with itself
[12:08] <[LethAL] > card's*
[12:08] <ccooke> ProN00b: I suspect the complaint was about something more than that, though
[12:09] <ProN00b> humm
[12:09] <ZBlach> [LethAL] , mode: managed. there's ususally my error with a failure of association with AP
[12:09] <ProN00b> Jehfvel, how much does it eat on your system ?
[12:10] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, if you have your Router's MAC address (Probably on the router) tr sudo iwconfig <mac>
[12:10] <[LethAL] > With colons
[12:10] <Jehfvel> ProN00b: not much right now, but firefox i really slow, and if i start gedit and grab the lower corner and drags it around, 100%
[12:10] <ZBlach> tried that. no errors given, but as soon as i iwconfig wlan0 again, there's no difference
[12:10] <ZBlach> i wish i could provide more detail, sorry
[12:11] <[LethAL] > does ifconfig wlan0 give you and IP?
[12:11] <[LethAL] > an*
[12:11] <mirak> I downloaded a gnome themes, and installed it with the theme manager but it doesn't appear in the list, what am I doing wrong ? can this be a version problem ?
[12:12] <ProN00b> well, i can't resize gedit smoothly too, but nothing freezes, i didn't check the cpu
[12:12] <ProN00b> did you install nvidia drivers ?
[12:12] <topyli> ccooke: for comparison, X eats 4% of my 900Mhz CPu and about 110M of RAM
[12:12] <topyli> 110M? good grief
[12:13] <Jehfvel> ProN00b: yes, tried the option renderaccel too, but then X locks up when scrolling with mousewheel in firefox
[12:13] <ZBlach> [LethAL] , i'm using static IP, so yeah, it does. but what should the BCast IP be?
[12:14] <ccooke> topyli: X varies in cpu load quite a bit, though
[12:14] <[LethAL] > Well... the same as your IP with 255 at the end e.g. 192.168.1.255
[12:14] <topyli> ccooke: yeah, i guess clients delegate some of the load to X too
[12:14] <ZBlach> i guess the number is correct then
[12:15] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, pm me your whole iwconfig wlan0 maybe?
[12:15] <ZBlach> hang on, i'mma find my mem key
[12:16] <_Rappy_> to big happenings on Oct 13th ;D
[12:16] <poningru> W00T Oct 13
[12:16] <p0windah> a game ?
[12:17] <topyli> _Rappy_: they will release breezy TWICE?
[12:17] <_Rappy_> Twice?
[12:17] <topyli> you said two big happenings :)
[12:17] <_Rappy_> ah, hehe :) No, I'm 1/4 to becomming 100 years old then ;D
[12:18] <topyli> congratulations _Rappy_
[12:18] <p0windah> a believer in potentiality...
[12:18] <^bluestone^> thanks people, 'night
[12:18] <_Rappy_> p0windah, if we don't got optimism, what are we left with?
[12:19] <helloworld> hello everyone
[12:19] <helloworld> Can someone help me with my LTSP setup?
[12:19] <ProN00b> why are most linux gui programs just excuses for not having a equivalent software to windows stuff ?
[12:20] <p0windah> ProN00b: you havent used enough linux programs ?
[12:20] <Jehfvel> great, opened gedit, and just started typing random junk, and when gedit started scrolling to the right, cpu usage got up to 99%
[12:20] <topyli> ProN00b: you haven't made them better yet
[12:20] <poningru> ProN00b: seriously there are a few that are like that but most are individual apps that I would not classify in that category
[12:20] <ProN00b> i have uses main ones for chatting, gaim and xchat, and they are mere excuses for trillian and mirc
[12:21] <ProN00b> also the xmmp thingy that even calls itself a winamp clone
[12:21] <poningru> ProN00b: xchat and gaim are def not copies of trillian or especially mirc
[12:21] <p0windah> psi stands apart in the IM crown
[12:21] <topyli> ProN00b: file some wishlist and usability bugs
[12:21] <poningru> ProN00b: if anything trillian copied tones of stuff from gaim
[12:21] <ProN00b> lol
[12:22] <poningru> ProN00b: I have to agree about the last statement though
[12:22] <topyli> ProN00b: although i don't think your xchat patches will be accepted if they make it more like mirc
[12:22] <p0windah> besides, I think you need to understand many GUI apps you blanketly refer to probably aim further than just linux
[12:22] <ProN00b> trillian might have used some of the protocol code from gaim in the beginning (i think there was proof ^^), but its still better
[12:23] <ProN00b> what last statement, poningru ?
[12:23] <Trashcan> Is that illegal under GNU?
[12:23] <p0windah> Trashcan: sure is
[12:23] <Trashcan> ouch
[12:23] <poningru>  also the xmmp thingy that even calls itself a winamp clone
[12:23] <p0windah> Trashcan: the RIAAA can sue you
[12:23] <Trashcan> he
[12:23] <Trashcan> h
[12:23] <ProN00b> lawl
[12:23] <Trashcan> that would suck
[12:23] <Trashcan> getting sued over stealing free stuff
[12:23] <wickedpuppy> poningru, its xmms ...
[12:23] <ProN00b> gaim got to get skins ^^
[12:23] <poningru> wickedpuppy: thats a quote from ProN00b
[12:24] <topyli> aww skins
[12:24] <ProN00b> and xchat smaller buttons
[12:24] <kemik> skiiinz :|
[12:24] <p0windah> but seriously ProN00b,..
[12:24] <doubleukay> hmm has anyone had problems with kernel modules aliases not workign?
[12:24] <wickedpuppy> poningru, and ProN00b are you two here to complain about linux ?? may i suggest #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[12:24] <poningru> guys this is going in the flame ware direction
[12:24] <kemik> gaim need to get proper filetransfer support for MSN, ICQ etc...
[12:24] <topyli> ProN00b: i've just replaced all my skinned programs with something decent and you had to remind me of those horrible UIs
[12:24] <topyli> :)
[12:24] <p0windah> poningru: doubtless, no1 has said anything yet. its all troll
[12:24] <poningru> wickedpuppy: actually defending but I agree
[12:25] <janimo> apt-pinning question: is there really no way to pin packages matching a wildcard to a version? I had to pin all startinh with openoffice2.org- manually
[12:25] <doubleukay> except that trillians IRC is hopelessly pathetic in version 3 --> [03/10 20:20]  ProN00b: i have uses main ones for chatting, gaim and xchat, and they are mere excuses for trillian and mirc
[12:25] <ProN00b> kemik, unpossible, no one can do that ^^
[12:25] <Myrtti> bitlbee
[12:25] <Trashcan> Personally I prefer xchat over mIRC
[12:25] <kemik> ProN00b:  what ? miranda has done so
[12:25] <Trashcan> just because gnome is prettier :)
[12:25] <poningru> doubleukay: how do you mean?
[12:26] <poningru> guys seriously this is getting offtopic pretty fast there is artwork page for this
[12:26] <poningru> err channel
[12:26] <Trashcan> aye
[12:26] <ProN00b> kemik, miranda for linux ?
[12:26] <kbrooks> lol.
[12:26] <doubleukay> poningru, to start with.. it doesn't have "change nick if nick's in use" feature. so i never get reconnected back to any server after my adsl drops..
[12:26] <kemik> ProN00b:  no, for windows.... take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:26] <TiMiDo> ubuntu the best,
[12:26] <doubleukay> there also isn't any frontend to channel management :(
[12:27] <p0windah> OMG!
[12:27] <p0windah> how can we ever beat windows when it has CHANNEL MANAGEMENT TECHNOLOGY?!
[12:27] <TiMiDo> p0windah, windows sucks a$$
[12:27] <doubleukay> uhh?
[12:27] <doubleukay> read in context.
[12:27] <p0windah> not that it was ever really a conversation anyway
[12:27] <ProN00b> doubleukay, trillian is not for irc, but there are containers which are actually quite good for channel management
[12:27] <wickedpuppy> p0windah, ... pls ... we are not into beating windows or anyone ... this is not the object of GNU or Linux
[12:28] <davro> what is this windows you talk of ?
[12:28] <Jhair> I get my daily work done without "channel management technology". What is that?
[12:28] <TiMiDo> windows will rock until they sell the sources codes like linux does for a normal priced and also free
[12:28] <p0windah> Jhair: thats what they want you to think
[12:28] <doubleukay> ProN00b, ahh i mean like viewing bans, setting modes, etc. but yes, containers rock.
[12:28] <Jhair> uh?
[12:28] <ProN00b> oh
[12:28] <topyli> whenever i complain about gaim's irc, people use this same comment: "it's not for irc". it could pretty easily be though if we wanted :(
[12:29] <ProN00b> well, gaim can do irc too, and i imagine no one uses it for similar reasons
[12:29] <topyli> ProN00b: it does, i can see the proof right now
[12:29] <p0windah> ProN00b complained that linux guis are clones of windows apps, then provided a lame list of a handful of IM programs, then somehow that was taken as the base for the discussion, which morphed into usability issues for irc clients and channel management
[12:30] <topyli> ProN00b: but you can't hide channel messages for example, and i'd like a bit more of the basic commands in menus, etc.
[12:30] <ProN00b> p0windah, provide examples for good linux gui apps
[12:31] <p0windah> well I think gnome is probably a glaring one, freemind is another nice one
[12:31] <topyli> ProN00b: nethack!
[12:31] <p0windah> but as I mentioned earlier, linux gui is a misnomer
[12:31] <ProN00b> gnome is a wm...
[12:31] <topyli> nope
[12:31] <Jhair> ProN00b: provide examples for good windows applications (but don't do it here, go to #windows for that)
[12:31] <UltrA> gimp has a pretty good gui
[12:32] <wickedpuppy> sorry to ask but anyone here GUI programmer?? or are all these opinions about GUIs nothing more than random rants ??
[12:32] <bob2> topyli: you're welcome to submit patches...
[12:32] <davro> ProN00B: try Blender, im sure you are you a troll
[12:32] <p0windah> ProN00b: freemind is something I use on a daily basis
[12:32] <topyli> bob2: yeah, no use whining
[12:32] <ProN00b> i am checking freemind, is it a mindmapping software, p0windah ?
[12:33] <p0windah> ProN00b: although its not strictly linux, but then not many x apps on linux are
[12:33] <topyli> ProN00b: yes, nice but java
[12:33] <ProN00b> java makes babies cry
[12:33] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  would it matter if someone was a GUI programmer?
[12:33] <[LethAL] > No, that's lava :D
[12:33] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  people are still entitled to their opinions
[12:33] <topyli> ProN00b: actually it's just the look of java apps i don't like. not very gnome-y :)
[12:33] <doubleukay> so..
[12:34] <doubleukay> has anyone had problems with kernel modules aliases not workign?
[12:34] <p0windah> topyli: you see I dont like that sir
[12:34] <[LethAL] > topyli, Azureus is a java app :P
[12:34] <ProN00b> i can say i am a gui programmer, i do visual basic ^^
[12:34] <poningru> rofl
[12:34] <[LethAL] > ProN00b, that explains the N00b part of your name...
[12:34] <davro> ProN00B: Visual What
[12:34] <p0windah> topyli: I'd have to insist it be "gnomish", rather than gnome-y
[12:34] <doubleukay> in /etc/modules.conf: alias wlan0 prism2_usb
[12:34] <Trashcan> lmao pron00b
[12:34] <doubleukay> # modprobe wlan0
[12:34] <doubleukay> FATAL: Module wlan0 not found.
[12:34] <ProN00b> flame on teh me ^^
[12:34] <wickedpuppy> lol .. if you says so kemik .. but really can i talk about US president if i am not american ??
[12:34] <davro> Flame on
[12:34] <topyli> [LethAL] : yes it is. i think i saw it once and they made it look very gtk
[12:35] <[LethAL] > topyli, GTK 2
[12:35] <topyli> yes
[12:35] <p0windah> its getting slippery boys!
[12:35] <Trashcan> :p
[12:35] <p0windah> someone mentioned americans..
[12:35] <p0windah> and GUI's
[12:35] <Jhair> ProN00b: now your rants against linux do have more weight bearing in mind your visual basic experience sigh
[12:35] <p0windah> someone is surely going to start ranting about vi next
[12:35] <Trashcan> lol jhair
[12:35] <Trashcan> well played
[12:35] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  why couldnt you ?
[12:35] <davro> GUI of mass destruction
[12:36] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  i have opinions about the US president, and i'm not american
[12:36] <Trashcan> VB card played - point. set. match. game.
[12:36] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  i also have opinions on alot of GUIs even tho im not involved in the specific projects
[12:36] <ProN00b> i am actually ranting against the people making gaim for just making something with the linux needs it attitude, Jhair
[12:36] <Seveas> ahem, guys, please do off-topic discussins in #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this a support channel
[12:36] <p0windah> wickedpuppy: if pushed, he'll have an opinion on your genitals too
[12:37] <kemik> p0windah:  ViM > EMACS!!! ;)
[12:37] <ProN00b> lolz
[12:37] <p0windah> so anyone here need help with ubuntu ?
[12:37] <[LethAL] > kemcco_home, s/EMACS!!!/* :P
[12:37] <Jhair> well the point is: GUIs are done to fullfill requirements of _users_, so the opinions from users are relevant I think
[12:37] <[LethAL] > kemik aven
[12:37] <UltrA> yes i can here to try and help people :D
[12:37] <Seveas> Jhair, [LethAL]  ...
[12:37] <UltrA> not just read a GUI flame war
[12:38] <fullybad> hallo
[12:38] <Seveas> hi
[12:38] <p0windah> fullybad: how can be serve you today ?
[12:38] <p0windah> can we...
[12:38] <poningru> night guys
[12:38] <fullybad> can someone help
[12:38] <poningru_sleep> rofl
[12:38] <Seveas> fullybad, maybe, if you see how we might help you
[12:38] <propagandhi> fullybad: for a small fee
[12:39] <UltrA> fullybad: just tell us what :D
[12:39] <[LethAL] > !helpme
[12:39] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[12:39] <fullybad> I have a probleme with my Card under >ubutu
[12:39] <elc3> hi guys! i'm new in using ubuntu, and i want to share some resources to other computers can anyone help me please
[12:39] <propagandhi> card - now thats explanatory
[12:39] <[LethAL] > Card? Wireless? Graphics? Sound?
[12:39] <fullybad> I have two card
[12:39] <p0windah> fullybad: which one ?
[12:39] <Seveas> what kind of card, what is the problem?
[12:39] <UltrA> fullybad: which card
[12:39] <bob2> elc3: "resources"?
[12:39] <Trashcan> lol
[12:39] <christian-> I've got the ace of spades!
[12:39] <p0windah> this is like an episode of the muppets :)
[12:39] <Trashcan> :p
[12:39] <fullybad> and when I insert the second one i can not have internet anymore
[12:39] <kemik> if one asks the questions, maybe that's sufficient ?
[12:39] <poningru_sleep> it really is
[12:39] <UltrA> elc3: what os is the other computer running?
[12:39] <elc3> yes resources like files and printers
[12:39] <propagandhi> fullybad: whats your native language?
[12:39] <Trashcan> elc3: you referring to shared folders?
[12:40] <Trashcan> elc: you want to share with windows?
[12:40] <fullybad> french
[12:40] <elc3> yes
[12:40] <UltrA> elc3: what os is the other computer running?
[12:40] <Seveas> fullybad, so I assume you mean network cards
[12:40] <elc3> thanks
[12:40] <fullybad> yes
[12:40] <fullybad> I do
[12:40] <elc3> with windows and ubuntu
[12:40] <UltrA> use samba
[12:40] <p0windah> fullybad: did it ever work in ubuntu, your network card ?
[12:40] <poningru_sleep> !tell elc3 about samba
[12:40] <elc3> ubuntu and windows
[12:40] <UltrA> elc3: you need samba
[12:40] <Seveas> ok, what is your objective with having two cards, and how did you configure it now?
[12:40] <elc3> what's samba?
[12:40] <wickedpuppy> fullybad, allez #ubuntu-fr pour aider svp
[12:40] <fullybad> I have it yes
[12:40] <UltrA> poningru_sleep: damn bot :D
[12:40] <CirroX> elc3 interface Linux <> windows
[12:41] <Seveas> elc3, it's an implementation of the windows filesharing stuff
[12:41] <Trashcan> Hey, I have 3 cards :p
[12:41] <UltrA> poningru_sleep: stole my job
[12:41] <Jhair> elc3: maybe this book can help: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/ it's free
[12:41] <elc3> can anyone tell me how to use or install samba in ubuntu
[12:41] <Trashcan> elc3: do you know what your workgroup is?
[12:41] <UltrA> sudo apt-get install samba
[12:41] <UltrA> :D
[12:41] <elc3> thanks seveas for the tip last day
[12:41] <Seveas> elc3, install the samba and swat packages
[12:41] <fullybad> but the probleme is that the second card insertion drop out my net connection
[12:41] <poningru_sleep> elc3: basically a method/network file system for sharing resources between windows and linux
[12:41] <Blissex> elc3: for Samba help, there are quite a few other tutorials here: http://WWW.Samba.org/
[12:41] <UltrA> elc3: sudo apt-get install samba swat
[12:41] <poningru_sleep> elc3: dude go to that page ubotu showed you
[12:41] <Seveas> elc3, enable swat (sudo update-inetd --enable swat)
[12:41] <ProN00b> samba makes the windows grim eat your cookies
[12:42] <Blissex> elc3: and as Seveas says, install those packages, and SWAT is a package that helps you configure Samba easily.
[12:42] <fullybad> I wann share internet resources
[12:42] <Seveas> elc3, then set a root password and use that to login to swat (http://localhost:901/
[12:42] <fullybad> with shorewall
[12:42] <Jhair> hm. is smbumount deprecated? I can only umount samba shares with umount and not with smbumount...
[12:42] <elc3> one at a time please
[12:42] <elc3> so what's the first thing that i'm going to do?
[12:42] <Blissex> fullybad: Shorewall is a package that _prevents_ the sharing of resources :-)
[12:42] <Seveas> fullybad, ok, I don't know how shorewall does that, but firestarter has a one-click solution
[12:42] <p0windah> jhair: whats wrong with mount and umount ?
[12:42] <Blissex> elc3: as Seveas says...
[12:43] <UltrA> Jhair: the that would make sense no?
[12:43] <LootBeer> is ubuntu better than slackware?
[12:43] <wickedpuppy> oh no ... not another flamewar
[12:43] <fullybad> the probleme is not shorewall but the card
[12:43] <UltrA> LootBeer: in some ways
[12:43] <Seveas> LootBeer, of course
[12:43] <propagandhi> LootBeer: thats a matter of opinion
[12:43] <florian> ubuntu is the best
[12:43] <Blissex> Jhair: once a resource has been mounted to a mountpoint, unmounting it is the same. It is _mounting_ that may require extra parameters.
[12:43] <LootBeer> whys ubuntu better?
[12:43] <UltrA> LootBeer: Arch is better then slackware
[12:43] <LootBeer> tell me
[12:43] <fullybad> with the second card my first one cannot anymore get the net
[12:44] <florian> it works out of the box
[12:44] <Seveas> LootBeer, as propagandhi said, it's a matter of opinion
[12:44] <p0windah> so just KB him already
[12:44] <UltrA> LootBeer: dunno ... Sninyer :D
[12:44] <UltrA> LootBeer: dunno ... Shinyer :D
[12:44] <Blissex> LootBeer: it is a difficult discussion. But you can just try it with the Ubuntu LiveCD and make your own opinion of it.
[12:44] <Seveas> the way ubuntu works however is prefered over slackware by lots of people
[12:44] <fullybad> how can I solve it
[12:44] <propagandhi> LootBeer: one advantage is if you're into always having access to the latest packages - u can do so
[12:44] <Ingenu> anyone can tell me how to mount a hdd with the liveCD ? (tried the mkdir /mnt/hd but I don't have permission it seems)
[12:44] <fullybad> is there something to do
[12:44] <propagandhi> slackware is slower to release packages
[12:44] <Jhair> Blissex: oh I see now in the smbmount manpage that "for root it is not necessary to use smbmount"
[12:44] <Jhair> so that's clear now.
[12:44] <Seveas> Ingenu, use sudo in appropriate places
[12:45] <Jhair> s/smbmount/smbumount
[12:45] <Seveas> fullybad, well, you need to setup the cards first befre you can setup the sharing
[12:45] <UltrA> LootBeer: I've used every distro you can name and I like ubuntu and gentoo the best
[12:45] <Ingenu> Seveas, what appropriate place ?
[12:45] <Blissex> Jhair: it is not _necessary_ to use 'smbmount', but it is unnecessary to use 'smbumount'....
[12:45] <propagandhi> LootBeer: I have also used just about all - and i am back to ubuntu
[12:45] <Seveas> like sudo mkdir and sudo mount
[12:45] <p0windah> UltrA: what about redflag ?
[12:45] <Ingenu> oh ok
[12:45] <wickedpuppy> lol
[12:45] <Trashcan> use sudo for anything that needs root privs
[12:45] <propagandhi> LootBeer: it can be as advanced or as simple as you like it to be
[12:45] <Blissex> Jhair: the mounting and unmounting is actually done in any case by the relative system calls.
[12:46] <Ingenu> any shortcut to move from one workspace to another (I don't like clicking) ?
[12:46] <fullybad> yes of course but why only the presence of the second card drop the net ?
[12:46] <Blissex> Jhair: 'smbmount' and 'mount' etc. are just slightly different ways to invoke those system calls.
[12:46] <UltrA> p0windah: I said nothing about redflag?
[12:46] <Trashcan> Does anyone know of a way to get tabs in xchat to stack?
[12:46] <LootBeer> propagandhi>how so?
[12:46] <Trashcan> so I can have two layers instead of one long list
[12:46] <p0windah> Ingenu: you need to go setup some shortcuts, by default they are empty
[12:46] <LootBeer> it uses apt-get?
[12:46] <fullybad> the what I don't anderstand
[12:46] <Jhair> Blissex: yes, you are right, I see that now in the man page, it uses the -t smbfs option for mount
[12:46] <p0windah> UltrA: you said any linux distro we could name
[12:46] <fullybad> understand
[12:46] <UltrA> p0windah: lol... crap
[12:46] <ProN00b> Trashcan, let me know if you find a solution
[12:46] <UltrA> p0windah: what's there site?
[12:46] <Blissex> Jhair: it is not quite that either...
[12:47] <ProN00b> (another example of bad gui ^^)
[12:47] <deFrysk> Trashcan, mousewheel over desktopswitcher
[12:47] <propagandhi> LootBeer: you can use apt-get or Synaptic package manager to install the basics, you could also compile software, depends on how far you want to take it. i personally have nothing that i want that is unattainable
[12:47] <fullybad> it work well under Kanotix and suse why not ubutu ?
[12:47] <p0windah> UltrA: google too good for you or something as well ?
[12:47] <Trashcan> lol deFrysk
[12:47] <UltrA> p0windah: I was just doing that
[12:47] <fullybad> is there something special to do ?
[12:47] <Blissex> Jhair: normally a 'mount' operation only requires three arguments: the type of filesystem, what to mount and where.
[12:47] <Kyynara_> Lately I've been having this problem, that while srufing with Firefox, my comp "freezez" nothing (or atleast I haven't found anything) can be done. Does anyone have any suggestions about fixing this problem?
[12:47] <LootBeer> whats the smalles /lightest linux distro on this planet?
[12:47] <deFrysk> Trashcan, lol ? why ?
[12:47] <Blissex> Jhair: but for some filesystems, like 'smbfs', an extra list of arguments is possible or required.
[12:47] <Seveas> LootBeer, probably damn small linux
[12:47] <p0windah> LootBeer: define lightest
[12:48] <[LethAL] > LootBeer, DamnSmallLinux maybe :P
[12:48] <Trashcan> deFrysk: that's not exactly what i asked :p
[12:48] <propagandhi> LootBeer: distros like pocket linux, puppy, damn small, peanut etc
[12:48] <ProN00b> can you somehow install a kernel and copy a bash to it and run it ?
[12:48] <UltrA> p0windah: Are you recommending redflag or just telling me it's one i havent tried?
[12:48] <LootBeer> as in... least amount on space needed to install it
[12:48] <propagandhi> LootBeer: http://www.distrowatch.com
[12:48] <deFrysk> Trashcan, you did not want to clivk you said
[12:48] <deFrysk> click
[12:48] <p0windah> p0windah: you said you'd tried any distro we could name; so have you tried it ?
[12:48] <davro> NutOS, DSL, FeatherLinux.
[12:48] <deFrysk> Trashcan, and you dont have to
[12:48] <Trashcan> when did I say that :\
[12:48] <Blissex> Jhair: so 'smbmount' was written to create and pass that extra list of options for the 'smbfs' filesystem. Eventually 'mount' was modified to do the same (or to invoke 'smbmount' to do it).
[12:48] <UltrA> p0windah: no
[12:48] <Trashcan> I asked if you could stack the channel tabs in xchat
[12:49] <Ingenu> p0windah, thx works nicely
[12:49] <kbrooks> stack?
[12:49] <element_> hey what folder are all the default packages kept in?
[12:49] <Trashcan> instead of having them all listed on the bottom
[12:49] <fullybad> Howto two cards under ubutu .......can someone help me
[12:49] <Trashcan> have like, two layers of tabs
[12:49] <UltrA> p0windah: I was talking to LootBeer who appeared to be fairly new :D
[12:49] <Trashcan> on top of eachother
[12:49] <net08> /var/apt/cache
[12:49] <p0windah> UltrA: I cant trust you anymore
[12:49] <UltrA> p0windah: Ok... I'll go with that
[12:50] <deFrysk> Trashcan, I seem to have misread something somewhere ;p
[12:50] <Trashcan> hehe
[12:50] <Ingenu> mounting with sudo doesn't help that much since I can't access the drive from any GUI app :(
[12:50] <kbrooks> use the preferences, Trashcan
[12:50] <Jhair> Blissex: I see. I read now smbmount is indeed a daemon. This is a further difference between mount and smbmount am I right?
[12:50] <Ingenu> how do I give me rights ?
[12:50] <UltrA> p0windah: I was reffering to te biggest distros
[12:50] <fullybad> without configure my second card the the eth0 drop out ----- why?
[12:50] <wickedpuppy> Ingenu, sudo ...
[12:50] <Ingenu> (did use linux a long time ago, forgot almost everything)
[12:50] <[LethAL] > !tell Ingenu about chown
[12:50] <p0windah> UltrA: so now you're not a liar, you're stupid ?
[12:50] <[LethAL] > !tell Ingenu about chmod
[12:50] <Ingenu> chmod that's it :)
[12:51] <[LethAL] > :P
[12:51] <UltrA> p0windah: Ok just drop it
[12:51] <p0windah> UltrA: at some point one of us is going to have to end this silliness
[12:51] <UltrA> p0windah: I knew someone would flame me for it in 10 seconds
[12:51] <element_> can someone pls tell me what folder the default packages (synaptic) are kept in..
[12:51] <Blissex> Jhair: ah oops, what I wrote above as to 'smbmount' is actually about 'smbmnt'. 'smbmount' does a few extra things that I think are not really necessary, like the dmon thing.
[12:52] <propagandhi> element_: do you mean where it stores downloaded packages???
[12:52] <UltrA> ubotu: tell me about life the universe and everything
[12:52] <kbrooks> i just gave it 0
[12:52] <bozzu> what is needed to view .mov files on totem?
[12:52] <kbrooks> UltrA, do not play with the bot
[12:52] <florian> gstreamer-plugins
[12:53] <davro> Ultra: did you mean universe and multiverse
[12:53] <fullybad> hi Seveas are U still there ?
[12:53] <ColonelKernel> can anyone help me with ACM codec and linux
[12:53] <ColonelKernel> its crashing my mplayer
[12:53] <UltrA> davro: hard choice
[12:53] <element_> propgandhi..
[12:53] <element_> yes
[12:53] <Blissex> ColonelKernel: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask more detailed questions...
[12:53] <Jhair> Blissex: allright... smbmount, smbmnt that actually can lead to confussion :)
[12:53] <ZBlach> hrm. I can connect to sites using IP addresses, but not names. how can i fix this?
[12:53] <davro> Ultra: ? furry muff
[12:54] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, as I said, DNS servers
[12:54] <p0windah> ZBlach: you need to find out from your isp what your DNS servers are
[12:54] <Trashcan> ZBlanch: are you on a router?
[12:54] <florian> you need a dns-server in resolv.conf
[12:54] <ColonelKernel> Blissex,theres nothing more I can say - Im trying to play a video that uses the acm codec and my player crashes with signal 11
[12:54] <propagandhi> element_: /var/cache/apt/
[12:54] <ZBlach> yup, on a router
[12:54] <ColonelKernel> MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio
[12:54] <Trashcan> is it 192.168.1.1?
[12:54] <Trashcan> or something else
[12:54] <[LethAL] > Trashcan, it seems not to have a DNS server
[12:54] <Trashcan> whatever it is, you need to set your DNS server to your router's local address
[12:54] <Trashcan> ahhh
[12:54] <Shin_Gouki> hi!, if i install ubuntu , and type therefore :"server" do i have then a gcc & a MC also on my system??
[12:54] <Trashcan> that's weird :\
[12:54] <Blissex> ColonelKernel: sometimes but not always that can be a hardware issue. Signal 11 usually brings bad luck.
[12:55] <propagandhi> element_: /var/cache/apt/archives i mean
[12:55] <p0windah> what happens if the router doesnt have a proxy dns server ?
[12:55] <kbrooks> Shin_Gouki, type this in where?
[12:55] <[LethAL] > Trashcan, "...and now that i remove it from DNS servers, it works"
[12:55] <Shin_Gouki> kbrooks, if i insert ubuntu CDrom for boot isntall , i typed "server" for server install
[12:56] <kbrooks> No, I don't think you get gcc -- what's a MC?
[12:56] <Shin_Gouki> kbrooks, installation is finished but i m missing gcc & mc , i need them though!
[12:56] <calamari> hi
[12:56] <Trashcan> the guys who wrote xchat need to learn to comment :(
[12:56] <kbrooks> oh.p
[12:56] <florian> how can I turn on num-lock at bootup
[12:56] <kbrooks> apt-get install build-essential mc
[12:56] <[LethAL] > Shin_Gouki, apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:56] <kbrooks> [LethAL] , No.
[12:56] <calamari> is it possible to switch from 24 bit color mode to 15 or 16 bit modes?  Thee screen resolution app doesn't give the option
[12:56] <element_> ok that might not work, i just d.l wireless_tools.27 from the hp site and its in .tar.gz . if unpacked it, but how do i compile this now?
[12:57] <kbrooks> he does not ned the headers,
[12:57] <ZBlach> oh hang on.
[12:57] <ZBlach> its working!
[12:57] <kbrooks> need*
[12:57] <Shin_Gouki> @ALL i DONT have net acces so NO apt get, how do i install MC & gcc?
[12:57] <ZBlach> but _very_slowly_
[12:57] <[LethAL] > Shin_Gouki, they're on the CD
[12:57] <Shin_Gouki> lethal, thx how do i install from cd?
[12:57] <[LethAL] > apt-get
[12:57] <ColonelKernel> theres ntohign wrong with my hardware
[12:57] <ZBlach> with a DNS of my router, 3 packets in 20 seconds
[12:57] <p0windah> Shin_Gouki: sitck in your cd and type "apt-get install --reinstall build-essential"
[12:57] <Shin_Gouki> lethal, how do i mount the CD rom ^^
[12:58] <Trashcan> those would be timing out, zblanch
[12:58] <Trashcan> (can't resolve)
[12:58] <kbrooks> Shin_Gouki, you have apt-get.
[12:58] <Trashcan> You need to get the DNS server from your ISP and use that
[12:58] <[LethAL] > sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom0 I think
[12:58] <ZBlach> Trashcan, but i get results
[12:58] <Trashcan> oh?
[12:58] <ZBlach> i'll find out my DNS
[12:58] <ZBlach> really slow results
[12:58] <Trashcan> oh boy..
[12:58] <ZBlach> i'm now online
[12:59] <Shin_Gouki> ok , if i do sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom0 & apt-get install --reinstall build-essential" , WILL i have then gcc & mc??
[12:59] <fullybad> hallo can someone help me install two cards under ubutu please
[12:59] <p0windah> ZBlach: if your lookups are slow, you might want to consider installing pdns
[12:59] <ZBlach> pdns?
[12:59] <Jhair> Normally using usepeerdns as ppp option for your connection should update your /etc/resolv.conf with the proper DNS
[12:59] <Shin_Gouki> and in which directory are programms beeing installed in ubuntu? are GCC & MC in same directory?
[12:59] <p0windah> ZBlach: local caching proxy dns server; small, simple and fast
[01:00] <gruik> Hi guys, anybody know how to remove the noexec flag from a plug-ed in usb drive?
[01:00] <ZBlach> p0windah, i'll get the DNS from my provider. thanks for the tip
[01:00] <kbrooks> Shin_Gouki, mc is in a seperate package
[01:00] <p0windah> ZBlach: yeah you tell it to get results from your provider, but then it caches it on your machine...
[01:00] <davro> fullybad: you would like to install two cards under ubuntu, what type of cards ? netword, graphic, credit cards !
[01:01] <fullybad> network
[01:01] <ZBlach> i'll look into it
[01:01] <ZBlach> one final question
[01:01] <fullybad> network card
[01:01] <kbrooks> warcraft. hmmm.
[01:01] <fullybad> a realtek and 3com
[01:01] <ZBlach> how can I configure it to take open as the encryption protocol as default?
[01:02] <bobborc> Q: I'm having troubles downloading the no-ip software as it says on the wika.ubuntu site.
[01:02] <ProN00b> no-ip ?
[01:02] <ProN00b> use affraid.org
[01:02] <Trashcan> what's the problem bob/.
[01:02] <Trashcan> ?*
[01:02] <ProN00b> afraid.org = 1337
[01:02] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, try installing wifi-radar
[01:02] <kbrooks> Wow.
[01:02] <ColonelKernel> MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio <---- please help! Acm codec seems to be crashing my mplayer
[01:02] <Jhair> bobborc: I use the no-ip package on hoary without problems
[01:02] <ProN00b> no-ip.com = lame
[01:02] <[LethAL] > ProN00b, I use DynDNS... Router updates it for me :d
[01:03] <Trashcan> same
[01:03] <davro> fullybad, must go im nearly suffocating, coffee wrong hole....
[01:03] <Jhair> ProN00b: yes sure as lame as VisualBasic
[01:03] <Trashcan> nothing wrong with no-ip
[01:03] <ProN00b> Jhair, my VB programs deal more damage than your c++ programs
[01:03] <fullybad> ok
[01:03] <Jhair> ignore ProN00b
[01:03] <Trashcan> more damage to the system resources, maybe
[01:03] <bob2> VB programs deal 50 insanity points to anyone who has to maintain them
[01:04] <[LethAL] > And to the system
[01:04] <LootBeer> how does one check what cd burning tolls he has installed in his  boxen?????
[01:04] <bobborc> bobborc@BobBorc:~$ sudo apt-get install no-ip
[01:04] <bobborc> Reading package lists... Done
[01:04] <bobborc> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:04] <bobborc> E: Couldn't find package no-ip
[01:04] <bobborc> bobborc@BobBorc:~$ sudo apt-get install no-ip
[01:04] <bobborc> Reading package lists... Done
[01:04] <bobborc> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:04] <NsOmNiAc> I don't know .. if he got his head out of his ass and started going dev work for mono
[01:04] <bobborc> E: Couldn't find package no-ip
[01:04] <bobborc> woops.. didnt mean to spam
[01:04] <Trashcan> bob don't paste in here
[01:04] <NsOmNiAc> he could help some people out
[01:04] <bob2> bobborc: please don't do that
[01:04] <p0windah> LootBeer: in a terminal type "what cd burning programs are installed", then press enter twice before pressing escape
[01:04] <Trashcan> http://bobs.pastebin.com
[01:05] <fullybad> can anyone help me install two network cards under ubutu please
[01:05] <bob2> bobborc: and that error is pretty clear
[01:05] <ProN00b> afraid.org is just better than no-ip, afraid got 19k subdomains you can choose from ^^
[01:05] <bob2> fullybad: be more specific about your problem
[01:05] <bobborc> so it's no available anymore?
[01:05] <bob2> no-ip - A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service
[01:05] <bob2> bobborc: it certainly is, perhaps you haven't configured apt to find it yet
[01:05] <bob2> bobborc: /msg ubotu repositories
[01:05] <Wizardling> Hey - anyone know when exactly the new Ubuntu CDs will be sent out?
[01:06] <Jhair> bobborc: something is not right with your sources.list the package exists: Filename: pool/universe/n/no-ip/no-ip_2.1.1-4_i386.deb
[01:06] <Shin_Gouki> hi! what is the apt-get command for installing MC??
[01:06] <p0windah> Shin_Gouki: apt-get install mc
[01:06] <bob2> Wizardling: in the past they've gone out a few weeks after the release
[01:06] <Trashcan> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=no-ip&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all
[01:06] <fullybad> i install one card and with it a can get my internet now but when I insert the second network card my net drop out
[01:06] <Trashcan> no-ip is in universe
[01:06] <Trashcan> you probably havn't added the repo yet
[01:06] <[LethAL] > fullybad, something to do with routes... open network-admin
[01:06] <bob2> fullybad: "net drop out"?
[01:07] <bob2> fullybad: you mean "It works fine with one NIC, but when I reboot and install a second one, I'm unable to reach the internet using either"?
[01:07] <fullybad> I cayes
[01:07] <Wizardling> Thanks bob2
[01:07] <fullybad> yes that my probleme
[01:08] <fullybad> bob2
[01:08] <Wizardling> So there any Mac Ubuntu users here?
[01:08] <[LethAL] > Ok...
[01:09] <[LethAL] > Right... bored... gltron
[01:09] <bobborc> bob2: could it be I need to perform all the updates?
[01:09] <kbrooks> so ubuntu includes mike eh
[01:09] <kbrooks> pike
[01:09] <Shin_Gouki> hi! what is the command switch for the "ls" command to list results "per page" like scroll able?
[01:10] <fullybad> bob2 , how can I solve this probleme ?
[01:10] <Shin_Gouki> like in old dos times /p??
[01:10] <p0windah> ls -al  | more
[01:10] <Wizardling> Is there a BOINC (distibuted computing - SETI@home, etc) client for Mac Ubuntu?
[01:10] <Shin_Gouki> thx <p0windah> !!!
[01:11] <ColonelKernel> Blissex, file plays fine in windows
[01:12] <fullybad> bob2 , do U have an idea how  I can solve it ?
[01:13] <gruik> noone knows where I can tweak the noexec settings for an external usb drive?
[01:13] <nnonix> fullybad: have you checked your default gateway device after booting with the 2nd nic? It may have changed to the new nic, in which case you wouldn't get out to the net.
[01:13] <gruik> like in https://bugzilla.ubuntulinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2386 ?
[01:13] <rawiramdhan> How can I check how many hdd linux detecs?
[01:16] <Hoxzer^> can I somehow run commands to program that is already running?
[01:16] <Hoxzer^> I want xine wich already running to open DVD
[01:17] <TiMiDo> Hoxzer, what do you meen?
[01:17] <Blissex> Hoxzer^: Xine has a menu to do that.
[01:17] <Hoxzer^> Blissex: Yeah, but I dont use mouse
[01:17] <Hoxzer^> in HTPC
[01:17] <nnonix> So what's the deal with the Breezy release? I know its this month but, will we hear anything prior to the release date or will it just show up on the Ubuntu site without notice?
[01:17] <kbrooks> Hoxzer, you vcan still use it.
[01:17] <TiMiDo> nnonix, on october breezy will be released
[01:17] <Hoxzer^> :D I DONT want to grab my mouse
[01:17] <kbrooks> nnonix, it is slated to be releasd the 13th
[01:18] <kbrooks> Hoxzer, the menu
[01:18] <Blissex> nnonix: you know the bible -- Like a thief in the night :-)
[01:18] <Hoxzer^> It should be easily opened with remote controller
[01:18] <Hoxzer^> I want to setup simple binding for "Open DVD with xine"
[01:19] <Hoxzer^> and I don't want it to open second xine
[01:19] <Blissex> Hoxzer^: you mean an infrared controller?
[01:19] <Hoxzer^> Blissex: yep
[01:19] <Hoxzer^> and Lirc
[01:19] <Blissex> Hoxzer^: ahhhhhh.....
[01:20] <Blissex> Hoxzer^: well, then, I dont know if Xine by itself is ''scriptable''.
[01:20] <p0windah> I know that kind of thing is built into mplayer... would xine be similar ?
[01:20] <Blissex> Hoxzer^: I am pretty use under KDE a front end to Xine called Kaffeine is scriptable using DCOP.
[01:20] <nnonix> Anyone have trouble with mp3 playback in Amarok under gnome? Mine crashes a few seconds in but works fine for radio streams, etc.
[01:21] <Blissex> Hoxzer^: and as p0windah suspects probably Xine has builtin support for LIRC.
[01:21] <Hoxzer^> ok.... I'm littlebit newbie
[01:21] <Hoxzer^> But the thing is I want it to simple open DVD without keyboard or mouse just with remote controller
[01:21] <p0windah> Hoxzer: your best bet is to hunt around sites that focus on linux set-top boxs
[01:22] <Blissex> Hoxzer^: the Xine website has a lot of tutorials, if they support LIRC they will have a little tutorial.
[01:22] <p0windah> Hoxzer: I assure you there is a heap of ppl that have already done what you are trying to do
[01:22] <onkarshinde> Anybody facing problem connecting to Google talk with GAIM on linux?
[01:22] <Trashcan> not at all
[01:22] <p0windah> onkarshinde: its working here
[01:23] <tommi^> Hi. I've just installed Windows XP on second hd and now my clock is mixed up. How do I tell linux that the bios clock is already on local time?
[01:23] <Blissex> Hoxzer^: I just did the obvious web search and the first half a dozen link seem what you need... :-)
[01:23] <ProN00b> can anyone talk to me on google talk please ?
[01:23] <ProN00b> i never tested it
[01:23] <onkarshinde> Trashcan: p0windah: What version of gaim?
[01:23] <ProN00b> same nick
[01:23] <noplease> knows everyone a good tageditor with cddb,not easytag
[01:23] <Blissex> Hoxzer^: http://www.google.com/search?num=100&as_q=xine+lirc+remote+play
[01:23] <ProN00b> omg, plx !
[01:23] <p0windah> onkarshinde: whatever breezy is using
[01:24] <p0windah> onkarshinde: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3
[01:24] <Blissex> Hoxzer^: for example this might help: http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/lirc.html
[01:24] <wezzer> breezy is getting closer
[01:25] <onkarshinde> p0windah: Ok. I am using 1.4.0 on hoary (backport) and I detected the problem.
[01:25] <ProN00b> onkarshinde, configure it with the tutorial on the google page, it was kinda tricky to me (first time on jabber)
[01:25] <Shin_Gouki> hi ! what is the apt-get command to install GCC?
[01:25] <Trashcan> onkarshinde: sorry, 1.5.0
[01:25] <onkarshinde> ProN00b: Do you want me to ping on google talk?
[01:25] <Seveas> Shin_Gouki, apt-get install build-essential
[01:25] <Trashcan> screen name: your gmail addy without the @gmail.com
[01:25] <ProN00b> onkarshinde, could you talk to me on there ? same nick
[01:25] <Blissex> Hoxzer^: and this is the official page on LIRC and Xine: http://www.xinehq.de/index.php/readme#2.4.4
[01:25] <Trashcan> server: gmail.com
[01:25] <Trashcan> resource: Gtalk
[01:26] <Trashcan> 'more options' connect server: talk.google.com
[01:26] <p0windah> please, dont spam the whole channel
[01:26] <Trashcan> should be fine
[01:26] <Shin_Gouki> seveas, THX!!!
[01:26] <holycow> anyone have instructions for installing java on ubuntu?  i cannot find my old link to the ubuntu website, and now the instructions on there have some bullshit instructions on how to use the sun installer
[01:26] <holycow> anyone know of a prepackaged 1.5 jre?
[01:27] <onkarshinde> Trashcan: Hey I made Resource blank and it is working now. I know other settings.
[01:27] <TiMiDo> !tell holycow about jre
[01:27] <onkarshinde> !java
[01:27] <ubotu> methinks java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[01:27] <TiMiDo> !tell holycow about java
[01:27] <Seveas> !jaa
[01:27] <ubotu> Seveas: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:27] <Seveas> !java
[01:27] <holycow> thats bullshit
[01:27] <holycow> i'm not installing it like that
[01:27] <CirroX> !java
[01:27] <holycow> *grrr*
[01:27] <Shin_Gouki> !java
[01:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[01:27] <Shin_Gouki> ?
[01:27] <Trashcan> myspace crashed firefox :(
[01:28] <Seveas> holycow, i could give you a prepackaged one but my server just broke down tonight
[01:28] <Wizardling> Is there a BOINC (distibuted computing - SETI@home, etc) client for Mac Ubuntu?
[01:28] <p0windah> Wizardling: what does apt-cache say ?
[01:28] <holycow> Seveas, ah no prob, i thought there were prepackaged jres out there?
[01:28] <mattaion> hello everybody ! i am a new linux user and looking for additional programms. does anyone of you know a good page for downloads
[01:28] <holycow> i remember installing it last time, infact i have a repo but i can't login for some reason
[01:28] <ProN00b> there are, i apt-getted mine ^^
[01:28] <Chousuke> mattaion: you need none
[01:28] <kbrooks> holycow, there was in hoary-extras, but it was removed
[01:28] <p0windah> mattaion: sf
[01:29] <Chousuke> mattaion: use synaptic :P
[01:29] <holycow> kbrooks, aha! okay thats what i remember
[01:29] <p0windah> mattaion: sf.net, rather
[01:29] <Seveas> mattaion, applications -> add application
[01:29] <Seveas> don't download manually
[01:29] <holycow> kbrooks,was there are reason?
[01:29] <Trashcan> mattain: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager (on hoary)
[01:29] <TiMiDo> Seveas, are you an ubuntu devel?
[01:29] <holycow> installing it like in the factoid is not the right way to do it imho
[01:29] <mattaion> ok thank you!
[01:29] <mattaion> i will try...
[01:30] <onkarshinde> Does any one know if use of cairo has improved performance of GNOME in breezy?
[01:30] <spola> anyone knows what WORM meia is?
[01:30] <spola> media*
[01:30] <ProN00b> if you install java from the ubuntu first users guide, like i did, it fucks firefox, you got to turn it off in the browser
[01:30] <xTina> spola: Write Once Read Many.
[01:31] <spola> ty :p
[01:31] <holycow> ProN00b, yeah there used to be a deb package like kbrooks mentioned
[01:31] <onkarshinde> spola: a CDROM for example.
[01:32] <spola> dont you mean a cd-r ?
[01:32] <onkarshinde> spola: yes.
[01:33] <HeavyD> what happens if i remove ubuntu-desktop?
[01:33] <kbrooks> HeavyD, Nothing.
[01:33] <kbrooks> HeavyD, gnome wont be removed
[01:33] <HeavyD> ok, so it is safe to remove it with gimp?
[01:33] <HeavyD> because it removes it when i remove gimp
[01:34] <onkarshinde> HeavyD: It is just a meta package to help upgrading the distro
[01:34] <kbrooks> Can someone look at this and correct: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (Codecs/DVD-Video)
[01:34] <HeavyD> ok
[01:34] <onkarshinde> HeavyD: If you keep it you don't need to bother which packages are to be installed by default while upgradation.
[01:34] <HeavyD> ok
[01:34] <onkarshinde> kbrooks: what is to be corrected?
[01:34] <HeavyD> thx =)
[01:35] <mattaion> what is a good programm to burn Cds and DVDs ?
[01:35] <kbrooks> onkarshinde, marillat
[01:35] <Zeke1> anybody know about a graphical manager for gnome called kiro or cairo or something like that?
[01:35] <onkarshinde> mattaion: gnome-baker
[01:36] <mattaion> thx
[01:36] <onkarshinde> Zeke1: cairo is not graphical manager, it is library
[01:36] <onkarshinde> !info gnome-baker
[01:36] <onkarshinde> mattaion: you may find it in universe
[01:42] <VoX> how do i re-make/re-install the nvidia module for a new kernel version?
[01:43] <element_> can someone help me out, im trying to install dwl-g50+ wireless card and im up to the point where it says run iwconfig (from sourceforge, after installing the wireless tools) and the return i get is "lo/eth0/sit0 - no wireless extensions.
[01:44] <element_> dwlg650+
[01:44] <vengeful> breezy?
[01:44] <Gorku> hi all
[01:44] <element_> warty
[01:45] <glyn> how do I get PDF reading capability for Ubuntu?
[01:45] <vengeful> no idea..consider breezy...good wireless support and only 10 days from stable
[01:45] <mischa> glyn, apt-get install xpdf
[01:46] <element_> well till then i got 10 days to try to work this problem out, ive been sitting on it for 6 weeks and im not about to give up now... any other takers?
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> element_, normally wireless is eth1
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> you are using laptop i assume ?
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> with one lan and wireless ?
[01:47] <glyn> mischa:How do I get a pdf file to open by default with xpdf?
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> glyn, have you tried opening a pdf file ?
[01:48] <glyn> yeah it just asks me to find the location of what I want to open it with
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> i dont know about you but for me pdf just opens ... i never set any settings
[01:48] <Trashcan> same
[01:48] <avalost> you can always do: xpdf path/to/file/filename
[01:49] <kbrooks> "Ubuntu GNU/Linux"
[01:49] <kbrooks> wtf.
[01:49] <Trashcan> why?
[01:49] <Trashcan> technically it is based off of debian, and debian is a linux distro
[01:49] <glyn> where is the xpdf reader located exactly?
[01:49] <kbrooks> I don't know.
[01:49] <Trashcan> :
[01:49] <Trashcan> :O
[01:49] <glyn> I think it'd be easier to do that
[01:49] <Seveas> kbrooks, it's Ubuntu, not Ubuntu linux or Ubuntu GNU/linux
[01:49] <glyn> specify the location
[01:49] <VoX> how do i re-make/re-install the nvidia module for a new kernel version?
[01:50] <kbrooks> Trashcan, but ubuntu is drastically different from debian
[01:50] <Trashcan> aye
[01:50] <avalost> glyn, if you have it installed probably /usr/bin/xpdf
[01:50] <kbrooks> Seveas, I know. ;)
[01:50] <Seveas> kbrooks, good :)
[01:50] <element_> correct laptop with one onboard and wireless pcmcia. onboard is currently being used, any solutions?
[01:50] <avalost> or /usr/local/bin/xpdf
[01:50] <wickedpuppy> glyn, you don't need to know xpdf location ... i am sure it will be in ya path .. unless you changed ya path ...
[01:51] <avalost> glyn, if you can't find it you may want to do "sudo updatedb"
[01:51] <element_> link light is active but Act light is off.
[01:51] <VoX> anyone?
[01:51] <Seveas> !nvidia
[01:51] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:51] <avalost> VoX, do the same thing you did before, just "make clean" first
[01:52] <VoX> avalost: i havent had to do it before
[01:52] <VoX> Seveas: i tried that, didnt work
[01:52] <Nano|9000> people. whats good multi thread download manager to use?
[01:52] <atripathi> goodevening all
[01:52] <avalost> VoX, did you get a nividia package or did you compile from source?
[01:53] <glyn> how do I use xpdf to view a pdf link on a website?
[01:53] <atripathi> does anybody know if Evolution works with gmail ?
[01:53] <avalost> glyn, listen to me
[01:53] <wickedpuppy> atripathi, yes it does
[01:53] <kbrooks> What's zchat
[01:53] <kbrooks> zcat
[01:53] <atripathi> ok.....then it seems I have some misconf.
[01:54] <avalost> glyn, install xpdf, do "sudo updatedb", open page with firefox, click pdf you wanna open, select xpdf, click ok
[01:54] <VoX> avalost: nvidia package from memmory
[01:54] <avalost> VoX, fire up synaptic and look for packages
[01:55] <element_> anyone good any ideas on the wireless situation... eth1 is active but wireless card is down, i thought wireless runs on ath0
[01:55] <glyn> does sudo updatedb usually take a long time?
[01:55] <avalost> VoX, I do not have experience with nvidia packages at all but if it's already installed and there are no updated packages and it still doesn't work you may be able to do dpkg-reconfigure nvidiapackagename
[01:56] <VoX> avalost: i worked it out, didnt have the restricted headers for nvidia, for my new kernel
[01:56] <avalost> nice
[01:57] <glyn> when I do sudoupdatedb, my terminal just kinda sits there
[01:57] <mazzen> hi! im looking for a way to switch between two gcc version (3.4 and 4.0). i cant find a tool like gcc-config. how is this handle with ubuntu?
[01:57] <p0windah> glyn: yeah, it takes time
[01:57] <wickedpuppy> glyn, sudo updatedb ...two words
[01:57] <p0windah> glyn: grab yourself a coffee or beer
[01:57] <atripathi> there is no ximian or evolution channel on freenode :(
[01:57] <Skid> element_: my wifi card runs on eth1
[01:57] <Skid> (and also is shown as wifi0 too)
[01:58] <Skid> but i dont know why that's going off :/
[01:58] <VoX> glyn: yeah, it can take a while
[01:58] <Seveas> mazzen, export CC=gcc3.4
[01:58] <mazzen> argon: there is an evolution channel on irc.gimp.net
[01:58] <Seveas> etc...
[01:58] <atripathi> k
[01:58] <Seveas> mazzen, or sudo update-alternatives --config gcc
[01:58] <mazzen> Seveas: Thanks! :-)
[01:58] <VoX> glyn: i've got a 3500+ amd64, and it takes about 3 minutes for me.. i remember on an old p3/500 it would take around 20minutes
[01:58] <jobu> /j
[01:58] <WinZ> anybody have an experience in configuring ejabberd in Ubuntu?
[01:59] <mazzen> argon: or better irc.gimp.org
[01:59] <element_> i see skid, so what can u recommend me to do now?
[02:00] <kbrooks> bbl
[02:01] <mazzen> huh! when i run "update-alternatives --config gcc " i get "No alternatives for gcc.
[02:01] <mazzen> " but i have gcc-3.4     gcc-4.0 ?
[02:01] <glyn> avalost:I ran sudoupdatedb and clicked on the direct link to the PDF, the window popped up asking what I wanted firefox to do, I said open with and chose usr/bin/xpdf but the "ok" box is in grey and I can't click it
[02:01] <glyn> *sudo updatedb
[02:02] <Seveas> mazzen, hmm, then it's probably sodu dpkg-reconfigure gcc-4.0
[02:03] <Seveas> dang, not even that
[02:03] <Seveas> manually symlinking it seems the only option
[02:03] <glyn> could it be possible xpdf is located somewhere other than usr/bin?
[02:04] <rawiramdhan> How do I connect with commands, to shared windows computers?
[02:04] <element_> glyn, if its a saving issue, try the back arrow within the firfox save window or try to create a new folder from the current location,.
[02:05] <Kartoffel> how can I make grub start an other linux distibution installed on its own partition?
[02:05] <bigfoot1> guys, on a window pc, i used winzip to split up a big file into smaller chunks. The files are named foo.z01, foo.z02, etc. How can I put them back together into one file again?
[02:05] <Kartoffel> +r
[02:05] <rawiramdhan> extract each file and zip it again?
[02:06] <Kartoffel> or better how to add this distribution to the bootmanager...
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> glyn, have you installed xpdf ?
[02:06] <glyn> Yes
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> if you have .. .try locate xpdf or whereis xpdf
[02:06] <glyn> I did that
[02:06] <bigfoot1> rawiramdhan, i don't think each file is extractable, at least, not on my ubuntu. there is no application set up to open these files.
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> then ?
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> what you got ?
[02:07] <rawiramdhan> apt-get install unrar-free
[02:07] <glyn> I have a bunch of language things like turkish cyrliic thai hebrew, xpdfrc "includes" and a bunch of other stuff
[02:07] <tommi^> Hi. I've installed windows on a second hard drive and it seems that Windows xp always changes the bios clock to local time and ubuntu assumes it's gmt. How do I correct this? How do I make my Ubunutu installation understand that it's local time, not gmt?
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> whereis xpdf ?
[02:07] <Zeke1> anybody know about a graphical manager for gnome called kiro or cairo or something like that?
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> tommi^, configure your time ?? right click on your clock at the right top will do
[02:08] <glyn> usr/bin/xpdf usr/bin/xpdf.bin /etc/xpdf usr/share/xpdf usr/share/man/man1/xpdf.1.gz
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> Zeke1, what does that program manage ?
[02:08] <Zeke1> its apparently new and pretty good?
[02:08] <glyn> that's what I get when I do a whereis xpdf
[02:08] <mazzen> Seveas: thanks anyway!
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> glyn, then xpdf is in usr/bin
[02:08] <Zeke1> wickedpuppy, well its like gdm
[02:09] <Zeke1> its a graphics base for gnome
[02:09] <bigfoot1> is there a zip program for ubuntu? A program that works with files such as foo.z01, foo.z02?
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> !zip
[02:09] <ubotu> I don't know, wickedpuppy
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> oh hmms ... bigfoot1 there is unzip
[02:10] <Zeke1> anybody know anything about it
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> also zip
[02:10] <bigfoot1> wickedpuppy, does unzip work with my split files (foo.z01, foo.z02... ... ...)?
[02:10] <glyn> wickedpuppy:The only xpdf in usr/bin is a shell script
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> bigfoot1, i suppose so ... how i don't know ...
[02:10] <Skid> rar does
[02:10] <bigfoot1> Skid, rar works with split files in the format of foo.z01 foo.z02 etc?
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> usr/bin/xpdf.bin ?
[02:11] <Skid> afaik, yes
[02:11] <Skid> get it from www.rarlab.com
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> surely thats a binary file
[02:11] <Skid> then stick unrar/rar in /usr/bin ;)
[02:11] <bigfoot1> skid, not available from repo?
[02:11] <Skid> and then: unrar x zip.z01
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> thats a commercial product i believe
[02:11] <Skid> erm unrar is
[02:11] <Skid> but its crap
[02:11] <glyn> type:shell script size 1 kb mime type application/x-shellscript
[02:11] <Skid> and doens't split spanned files
[02:12] <Skid> you know have to extract it anyway
[02:12] <Skid> there's no compiling.
[02:12] <hubsi> guten tag
[02:12] <bigfoot1> unrar is excrement while rar isn't?
[02:12] <Skid> from the repo's, unrar is non-free
[02:12] <Skid> so; just download "winrar" from www.rarlab.com
[02:12] <glyn> ah I found the bin
[02:12] <bigfoot1> skid, are unrar and rar 2 seperate programs?
[02:12] <Skid> there's a linux/unix CLI variant
[02:12] <bigfoot1> Skid, winrar works with ubuntu?
[02:13] <Skid> yep
[02:13] <bigfoot1> so what is the best to get, skid: winrar or unrar or what?
[02:13] <Skid> bigfoot1: listen, just download from rarlab.com -
[02:13] <Skid> bleh
[02:13] <Skid> i'll get the link.
[02:13] <wickedpuppy> lol
[02:13] <lemics_> only command line
[02:13] <glyn> wickedpuppy:I still get the same problem when I try opening the file with xpdf.bin
[02:13] <Skid> bigfoot1: http://www.rarlab.com/rar/rarlinux-3.5.0.tar.gz
[02:13] <Skid> get that
[02:13] <Skid> extract it
[02:13] <glyn> can't click ok
[02:13] <Skid> (tar zxvf rarlinux-3.5.0.tar.gz)
[02:14] <Skid> then moce into the dir
[02:14] <Skid> move
[02:14] <Skid> and copy the binaries to /usr/bin
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> glyn, can you download the pdf file and open it ?
[02:14] <bigfoot1> Skid, thanks.
[02:14] <Skid> or just run from there, but its' better if their in your path
[02:14] <glyn> I can't save it for some reason
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> see if you can view it
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> impossible ... what reason ?
[02:14] <glyn> I try saving it then I look for the file and it's not there
[02:14] <glyn> I click save and okay
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> then its not there!!!!!
[02:15] <bigfoot1> skid: "or just run from there, but its' better if their in your path" : are you talking to me
[02:15] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:15] <Skid> bigfoot1: yep
[02:15] <bigfoot1> if so, skid, how do i add to path?
[02:15] <wickedpuppy> if its not there , there is no way to see it ... you can't open a file that doesn't exist
[02:15] <Skid> just put them in /usr/bin (the files: rar, unrar and there's one more, like rar-stats or somthing)
[02:15] <glyn> hmm is it possible it can still be in a search engine even though it's not there anymore?
[02:16] <bigfoot1> Skid, there's a makefile inside. Do i have to run "make"
[02:16] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:16] <wickedpuppy> glyn, can give me the link ?
[02:16] <wickedpuppy> let me see what are you trying to get
[02:16] <Skid> bigfoot1: hang on - pm me if you want just gonna get the file and see if it's the same one
[02:17] <glyn> wickedpuppy:www.nbcd.gov.tw/download/Ken's_thesis-final-Nov_2001_abstract_.pdf
[02:17] <Skid> bigfoot1: no, the makefile just moves the binaries into the respective directories
[02:17] <mattaion> hello, when i connect my ext harddisk and want to open it, ubuntu says it is onlx possible with "root". How can i fix that problem?
[02:17] <Skid> you can do it (with sudo), or just copy the rar/unrar files into /usr/bin yourself
[02:17] <bigfoot1> Skid, when is is using makefile a good thing?
[02:18] <Skid> when you're compiling.. if you want to, you can do it it doesn't really matter
[02:18] <Skid> it's just achieveing the same thing really
[02:18] <mattaion> i just installed ubuntu one hour ago, sorry i dont know what sudo is ?
[02:18] <Skid> either way it just puts the two binary files into the /usr/bin (local) directory
[02:19] <bigfoot1> skid, ok, so I'll copy and paste into usr/bin the programs: But is default.sfx included? It is an "executable."
[02:19] <Skid> !sudo
[02:19] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:19] <Skid> mattaion: check that link
[02:19] <wesley> people, how can i change my ip using txt mode?
[02:19] <Skid> nope
[02:19] <Skid> bigfoot1: an sfx is a "self extracting exe"
[02:19] <Skid> or executeable
[02:19] <mischa> glyn, /usr/bin/xpdf
[02:19] <Skid> same thing ;p
[02:19] <mattaion> ok thank you ! @skid
[02:19] <Skid> mattaion: np
[02:19] <Skid> wesley: "change" it ?
[02:19] <bigfoot1> skid, so if i understand you correctly, the non-nerdy way of doing what you say is running makefile correct?
[02:20] <wesley> yep, the ip'address
[02:20] <Skid> wesley: have a look @ /etc/network/interfaces
[02:20] <wesley> good
[02:20] <Skid> wesley: you need to use sudo to do so
[02:20] <Skid> (edit it)
[02:20] <Skid> bigfoot1: well yes, I guess heh
[02:20] <bigfoot1> okay.
[02:20] <Skid> I didn't even notice there was a makefile, bigfoot1 - so I just copied them in there myself
[02:20] <Skid> (to tell the honest truth
[02:21] <glyn> mischa>that won't work...
[02:21] <bigfoot1> Skid,  if you noticed the makefile, would you have used it?
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> glyn, your topic start with abstract
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> right ?>
[02:21] <wesley> and now, how can i reload the settings?
[02:21] <occy> will Breezy have a Graphical installer, or are we still in curses based install mode?
[02:21] <bigfoot1> skid, i ran the makefile now. I guess I can delete the extracted rar folder, right?
[02:21] <Skid> bigfoot1: probably not, as there's no compiling to be done - I just saw the rar and unrar files that I needed, and thought oh i'll put these into /usr/bin as that dir is already in the path variable
[02:21] <Skid> bigfoot1: yep
[02:22] <Zaphod_42> occy: why do you ask?
[02:22] <bigfoot1> well, skid, I'm a non-nerd, so i ran the makefile. I hope the effect is the same and the best one possible.
[02:22] <occy> Zaphod_42, heh, just curious.
[02:22] <Skid> bigfoot1: cat Makefile
[02:22] <Skid> you can see what it does
[02:22] <Skid> (makes two directories, and cp's rar and unrar into em)
[02:22] <bigfoot1> skid, i just doubleclicked on it and it opened up in gedit.
[02:22] <Skid> oh, and the other crap
[02:22] <Zaphod_42> ... thw preview has ncurses - luckily
[02:22] <Skid> :)
[02:22] <wickedpuppy> glyn, still there ?
[02:22] <occy> Zaphod_42, I'll use it either way, just want to know if we had worked out a Graphical installer yet or not.  I thought there was talk about it.
[02:23] <Skid> bigfoot1: open a shell, and type 'rar'
[02:23] <bigfoot1> done.
[02:23] <Skid> you'll see the options spammed at you if it's done it ok
[02:23] <Skid> but the command you need (to extract to the archives paths) is: unrar x <file>.<ext>
[02:23] <occy> wish I had a spare box just for testing stuff
[02:23] <Skid> so foo.z01 or whatever it was called
[02:23] <bigfoot1> skid the extensions are all different.
[02:23] <Skid> I've extracted zips with rar before
[02:24] <occy> can't afford to mess with my work laptop.
[02:24] <Seveas> occy, I had one, fan broke down a few hours ago :(
[02:24] <bigfoot1> it's from z01 to z29
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[02:24] <occy> Seveas, :(
[02:24] <Skid> bigfoot1: each file points to the next
[02:24] <Skid> try it
[02:24] <bigfoot1> skid, so which extension do i use, the first (z01)?
[02:24] <avalost> fans are easy to replace though
[02:24] <avalost> so it's not too bad searcher`
[02:24] <Skid> bigfoot1: yep, or if there's a .zip use that
[02:24] <avalost> err Seveas
[02:24] <Seveas> if you can get them
[02:24] <Seveas> it's an old k7
[02:24] <rc55> Hi - I'm installing ubuntu under Qemu/Win32 and it's freezing trying to find the apt repository. The network is currently not setup, is there any way of skipping this step and configuring it later?
[02:24] <bigfoot1> skid, thanks. will try so now.
[02:24] <avalost> Seveas, newegg
[02:24] <Skid> bigfoot1: I extract .r01 -> rXX, or .part01's from rars all the time, sooooooooooooo it should work
[02:25] <glyn> wickedpuppy>yes sorry
[02:25] <ProN00b> rc55, i suggest you install qemu under ubuntu and run win32 from it
[02:25] <bigfoot1> skid, i ran "unrar foo.z01" but nothing seemed to happen.
[02:25] <glyn> wickedpuppy>Abstract is in the file
[02:25] <Skid> bigfoot1: it just returned to the command land?
[02:25] <bigfoot1> Skid, yes, the whole spam of options
[02:26] <rc55> ProN00b: It's not my system ;) - I agree with you completely. Any ideas on my problem?
[02:26] <Skid> bigfoot1: unrar x foo.z01
[02:26] <Skid> you forgot the parameter
[02:27] <bigfoot1> skid, "foo.z01 is not a RAR archive" is the error message I got.
[02:27] <zdavidlnx> any idea when "Breeze" final realease will come?
[02:27] <bigfoot1> zdavidlnx, Oct 13
[02:27] <Skid> bigfoot1: ok, is unzup installed?
[02:27] <Skid> unzip sorry
[02:27] <mischa> hi all
[02:27] <bigfoot1> Skid, no it's not. You just told me the link for rar.
[02:27] <bigfoot1> hi mischa
[02:27] <basti> does anyone have a  solution for this problem (not being able to install from a spanking new plextor dvd-burner)? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52451
[02:27] <ProN00b> no, sorry, but using a live-cd might be an alternative solution, as well as just setting the network thingy up, or skipping it (somehow) ^^
[02:28] <egoleo> hello
[02:28] <mischa> i am having a strange issue with breezy....
[02:28] <bigfoot1> skid, if unzip is necessary, please tell me where to get. is it in repo+?
[02:28] <egoleo> is backports not working for breezy?
[02:28] <mischa> it takes for ever to start x
[02:28] <Skid> ok, bigfoot1: apt-get install unzip
[02:28] <Skid> (it may be in universe)
[02:28] <Ng> egoleo: there's nothing to backport yet ;)
[02:28] <Skid> then unzip --help (I've not used it before)
[02:29] <Skid> brb, gotta go to the garage.
[02:29] <egoleo> so where do i get some add ons for breezy
[02:29] <mischa> i get the splash screen and then nothong for a minute or two and that it continious normaly
[02:29] <egoleo> like mplayer
[02:29] <egoleo> and the codes
[02:29] <egoleo> codecs
[02:29] <egoleo> and acroread
[02:29] <_jason> !tell egoleo about restricted
[02:29] <silent_scream> hi! where can I find libxslt-proc ???
[02:29] <mischa> i can see in my proses list that dbus-launch is resposible...i
[02:29] <_jason> egoleo:  thats for the codecs, search the wiki for the other stuff and you should be in good shape
[02:30] <alisher> mplayer is in breezy, guess universe/multiverse
[02:30] <bigfoot1> can someone teach me unzip, please? I have it installed but can't understand unzip --help.
[02:30] <alisher> acroread too
[02:30] <egoleo> ok
[02:30] <bigfoot1> I'm trynig to unzip a multi-volume zipped file
[02:30] <egoleo> unzip filetounzip
[02:30] <alisher> codecs are out for legal reazons, you have to search yourself for
[02:31] <bigfoot1> egoleo,  but the files are "chopped up" into foo.z01 foo.z02 ..... foo.z29
[02:31] <bigfoot1> egoleo, will your command work?
[02:31] <bigfoot1> egoleo, if so, which "file" do I use?
[02:31] <egoleo> yeah
[02:31] <mischa> anyone have any idea what could cause dbus-launch to take soo long???
[02:31] <egoleo> give me one of ur file names
[02:31] <_iGadget_> hi all
[02:31] <bigfoot1> egoleo, foo.z01
[02:31] <rawiramdhan> I'm searching for a program that can make, encrypt, decrypt and maintain passwords does anyknow A program who can do this?
[02:32] <_iGadget_> kwallet?
[02:32] <CirroX> Configured port 2/21 on ELC-SWI4.
[02:32] <CirroX> Set it to trunking mode and assigned to IPtel VLAN.
[02:32] <CirroX> exit
[02:32] <eeaaxx> anybody knows what are the boot parameters in ubuntu live cd?
[02:34] <egoleo> but is that a zip file?
[02:34] <bigfoot1> egoleo, yes, Winzip (on my Windows PC) made it.
[02:34] <alisher> rawiramdhan: just type "password manager" in Synaptic, you will find several of them
[02:35] <_jason> bigfoot1:  have you tried using accessories > archive manager?
[02:35] <bigfoot1> egoleo, I tried unzip foo.z01 but it asks for the last "disk" of the file.
[02:35] <bigfoot1> _jason, how do i do that?
[02:35] <bigfoot1> Do i have it try to open the file?
[02:35] <nalioth_zZz> bigfoot1: do you have all the archives?
[02:35] <_jason> bigfoot1:  go to accessories > archive manager
[02:35] <bigfoot1> nalioth, i think so.
[02:35] <egoleo> last disk of which file
[02:35] <rawiramdhan> I was looking voor a cli app, but thanx to alisher I think I found one..
[02:35] <_jason> bigfoot1:  it is in the applications menu
[02:35] <LaptopZZ> Is there any reason why I can boot live cds on my laptop, but I can't boot the install disk? I have tried 5.04 and 5.10
[02:36] <bigfoot1> from foo.z01 to foo.z26. For some reason I also have a file named foo.zip_renamed.
[02:36] <silent_scream> where can I find libxslt-proc ???
[02:36] <egoleo> then maybe is not a zip file
[02:36] <alisher> rawiramdhan: zsafe, kwalletmanager, fpm
[02:36] <bigfoot1> egoleo, what made you conclude so?
[02:36] <egoleo> check whethere is another archive file
[02:36] <egoleo> like .tar
[02:36] <egoleo> .bzip
[02:36] <egoleo> or something elese
[02:37] <pzico> help!! "Kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt"..
[02:37] <mischa> i am having a strange issue with starting gnome under breezy....
[02:37] <mischa> i get the splash screen and then nothing for a minute or two and then it continious normaly. I can see in my proses list that dbus-launch is resposible...
[02:37] <mischa> anyone have any idea what could cause dbus-launch to take soo long???
[02:37] <egoleo> is either u dont have some driver support for ur system
[02:38] <egoleo> or some hardware support
[02:38] <bigfoot1> _jason, nalioth egoleo: For some reason I changed foo.zip_renamed to foo.zip and that fixes things!! I wonder why I renamed that file in the first place. Yahooooooooooooo! Gooooooooooooogle!
[02:38] <ScatterBrain> During bootup, hdparm starts and I get a message that '/dev/hdc was not found'.  /dev/hdc is my DVD+RW drive and I'm trying to enable DMA on it.
[02:38] <ubuntu_adiktus> hello
[02:38] <egoleo> oh ok
[02:38] <Blissex> ScatterBrain: it looks like your DVD drive has changed address and now lives in Las Vegas... :-)
[02:39] <ubuntu_adiktus> can i ask how I can install ubuntu??
[02:39] <egoleo> so it means that it wasn't a zip file then
[02:39] <egoleo> is now
[02:39] <egoleo> yeash
[02:39] <ScatterBrain> DMA is actually enabled, but I'm concerned about the message.
[02:39] <_iGadget_> ubuntu_adiktus: of course you can :)
[02:39] <ScatterBrain> Blissex: I wish it would take me with it.  :-0
[02:39] <bigfoot1> egoleo, oh now. the file called foo.zip_renamed and now called foo.zip won't work still!
[02:39] <ubuntu_adiktus> pls
[02:39] <egoleo> ubuntu_adiktus: do u have linux cd
[02:39] <Blissex> ubuntu_adiktus: there are rather complete installation instructions on the Ubuntu wiki online
[02:39] <ubuntu_adiktus> i dont have
[02:40] <ubuntu_adiktus> i just download ubuntu cd image online
[02:40] <bigfoot1> In using archive manager, I get the error: "An error occured while extracting files"
[02:40] <Blissex> ScatterBrain: try to do these two things to check out things: 'head /proc/ide/hd*/model' and 'hdparm -v /dev/hd?'
[02:40] <_iGadget_> ubuntu_adiktus: well... maybe that's a good way to start. Burn it to a recorable cd, and boot from it ;)
[02:40] <bigfoot1> The output I got was: file #1:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  4
[02:40] <bigfoot1> what does the above mean?
[02:40] <ubuntu_adiktus> it doesnt boot
[02:40] <ubuntu_adiktus> sir
[02:40] <nalioth> ubuntu_adiktus: check your md5 checksums
[02:41] <ubuntu_adiktus> ooopsss im a newbie
[02:41] <Blissex> bigfoot1: most probably that the ZIP file is slightly corrupted.
[02:41] <zdavidlnx> hi any one know the aprox. date of Breeze final release?
[02:41] <bigfoot1> Blissex, how can i check if corruption is in fact the problem?
[02:41] <Blissex> ubuntu_adiktus: you ahve to burn the ISO file as an _image_ not as a file.
[02:41] <nalioth> zdavidlnx: oct 13
[02:41] <_iGadget_> adiktus: if that doesn't work, have you tried booting from other cd's? Does that work?
[02:41] <ScatterBrain> Blissex: From the 'head' command I get model information from both my Hard Drive (hda) and my DVD (hdc)
[02:41] <Blissex> bigfoot1: yes you can :-).
[02:41] <ubuntu_adiktus> i have sucessfully created an ISO cd
[02:41] <bigfoot1> Blissex, how?
[02:41] <egoleo> ok
[02:41] <bigfoot1> Blissex, HOW can I check whether it is corrupted, or not+
[02:41] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:41] <egoleo> just restart ur system and slot the cd in
[02:42] <zdavidlnx> Thanks nalioth
[02:42] <Blissex> bigfoot1: use the 'zip -t' ('-t' means ''test'') command.
[02:42] <ScatterBrain> Blissex: from hdparm -v, I get the proper information, including the fact that DMA is enable for that drive.
[02:42] <Blissex> ScatterBrain: so everything should be all right... So it is a bit weird.
[02:42] <nalioth> bigfoot1: i hate to ask this....do you have a window box available?
[02:42] <silent_scream> where can I find libxslt-proc ???
[02:43] <bigfoot1> nalioth, not now, but why?
[02:43] <Blissex> ScatterBrain: what does 'ls -ld /dev/hdc' say?
[02:43] <_jason> does flash sound in firefox work in breezy?
[02:43] <ubuntu_adiktus> oh i guess my cd is not yet in autoboot
[02:43] <Blissex> _jason: it works in all releases, but there are complicated issues anyhow.
[02:43] <nalioth> bigfoot1: out there in the wilds of the internet is a program called "zipfix"
[02:43] <ScatterBrain> Blissex: brw-rw----  1 root cdrom 22, 0 Oct  3 08:34 /dev/hdc
[02:43] <ubuntu_adiktus> Im using xp under ntfs
[02:43] <selinium> hi nalioth  :)
[02:43] <ubuntu_adiktus> does it affect
[02:43] <Blissex> ScatterBrain: and that looks good too.
[02:43] <bigfoot1> nalioth, and zipfix is only for windows, yes?
[02:43] <ubuntu_adiktus> anything
[02:43] <nalioth> SlicerDicer-: mawnin'
[02:43] <_iGadget_> adiktus: righto... so fix your bios, then try again ;)
[02:43] <nalioth> bigfoot1: i havent found it yet for linux
[02:44] <bigfoot1> nalioth, i see.
[02:44] <ubuntu_adiktus> thanks ill be back if something goes wrong
[02:44] <ubuntu_adiktus> thanks sir igadget
[02:44] <ubuntu_adiktus> Ill reboot noe
[02:44] <ubuntu_adiktus> now
[02:44] <_iGadget_> adiktus: just make sure to defrag your drive befor installing
[02:44] <ubuntu_adiktus> bye
[02:44] <ubuntu_adiktus> why?
[02:44] <ScatterBrain> Blissex: Everything *seems* OK, I just don't like the bootup error.
[02:45] <_iGadget_> adiktus: because ubuntu wants a part of it...
[02:45] <bigfoot1> how could my zip files have gone corrupted? I just emailed the files to myself.
[02:45] <knubbe> anyone having troubles with Eclipse IDE since tonight's updates? (breezy)
[02:45] <ubuntu_adiktus> ok
[02:45] <ubuntu_adiktus> thanks
[02:45] <bigfoot1> I thought corruption only happened with stuff like floppy disks.
[02:45] <ubuntu_adiktus> bye
[02:45] <_iGadget_> good luck
[02:45] <ColonelKernel> bigfoot1, it happens with bad memory and bad harddrives and bad ide controllers too
[02:45] <Blissex> bigfoot1: perhaps with the wrong attachment type -- if you did not use a binary attachment type, it has been transmitted as text, and that causes trouble.
[02:45] <nalioth> bigfoot1: corruption hs everywhere. your router can cause it
[02:46] <bigfoot1> ColonelKernel, next time I'm going to use an online storage space like sendthisfile.com or opera's free 300 MB storage.
[02:47] <phaser> any quick howto to make ati drivers work with 5.10
[02:47] <`6og> anyone here play gnometris?
[02:47] <Trashcan> !tell phaser about ati
[02:47] <phaser> :)
[02:47] <phaser> thanks.
[02:48] <`6og> :/
[02:48] <`6og> oh, the nic
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> better
[02:51] <slibs> hi
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was wondering if anyone else had had this bug in gnometris, thats why i asked :/
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi slibs :O
[02:51] <joe_alf> i have vmware installed on ubuntu and guest windows xp using nat and windows 2003 server using bridge. in windows xp i can connect to internet thru ubuntu 'host' but in windows 2003 server i can't connect to the internet. does anybody know how can i make the internet connection from host share to windows 2003 server using the bridge.
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, sorry joe_alf
[02:52] <slibs> any ideas why, when i try to connect in this channel with my other ubuntumachine, irssi suddenly freezes, and then i have to kill it to get things working again :D
[02:52] <nalioth> joe_alf: that seems to be either a vmware question or a windows question
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> irssi is a thing of the devil :)
[02:52] <Myrtti> <3 irssi
[02:52] <ccooke> Kamping_Kaiser: no, that's bitchX :-)
[02:52] <slibs> and other thing, what update could cause that my cd-drive wont burn anything anymore?
[02:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol ccooke
[02:53] <mischa> i am having a strange issue with starting gnome under breezy....
[02:53] <mischa> i get the splash screen and then nothing for a minute or two and then it continious normaly. I can see in my proses list that dbus-launch is resposible...
[02:53] <mischa> anyone have any idea what could cause dbus-launch to take soo long???
[02:53] <JustinHH> i had some problems with grub. it apeared an error. i managed with an other program to boot windows. but now i can not start ubuntu. please help
[02:53] <ccooke> slibs: What were you using to burn?
[02:53] <slibs> k3b
[02:53] <slibs> i have also tried gnomebaker
[02:53] <ccooke> slibs: try cdrecord
[02:54] <ccooke> slibs: it'll give better error messages
[02:54] <slibs> is it unixlike or what?
[02:54] <ccooke> cdrecord is a command-line tool.
[02:54] <egoleo> yeah
[02:54] <slibs> yeah, that's what i tried to ask :D
[02:54] <slibs> but hey thanks, that's a good idea
[02:54] <egoleo> how do i burn an iso file with gnomebaker
[02:54] <avalost> can someone take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2736
[02:55] <ccooke> eglin ubuntu, just right-click on the file.
[02:55] <slibs> and hmm, it also has something to do with usb and firewire, since my dvd-drive is actually external one
[02:55] <egoleo> but how do i create the image
[02:55] <ccooke> avalost: that's fine.
[02:55] <egoleo> say from a Ubuntu cd
[02:55] <ccooke> egoleo: you want to burn an existing cd? or create a new image?
[02:56] <slibs> burning image and making one can't be used as same term :D
[02:56] <robertj> egoleo: you should be able to right click a cd and select burn
[02:56] <avalost> ccooke, what about removing it?
[02:56] <egoleo> yeah
[02:56] <ccooke> avalost: no, don't do that.
[02:56] <egoleo> but say i want to do cd to cd
[02:56] <avalost> ccooke, ok, thanks
[02:56] <ccooke> egoleo: simplest way to do that is, in a terminal:
[02:57] <egoleo> and how
[02:57] <whyameye> when I play sound through OSS it sounds great. Through Alsa or ESD, there are some dropouts/clicks. Can I adjust buffer size or something somewhere?
[02:57] <ccooke> egoleo: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=filename.iso bs=8192
[02:57] <ccooke> egoleo: (assuming /dev/cdrom is your cdrom device. It might be /dev/cdrw)
[02:58] <egoleo> i tried mkok
[02:58] <ccooke> egoleo: if you try the command I gave you, you'll get an image.
[02:58] <egoleo> i tried mkfiso
[02:58] <ccooke> mkisofs?
[02:58] <egoleo> so it would squeeze it from the cd
[02:58] <udin> halo met malem
[02:59] <ccooke> that just creates an iso from a set of files
[02:59] <ccooke> egoleo: run the command I gave you.
[02:59] <egoleo> ok
[03:00] <JustinHH> i had some problems with grub. it apeared an error. i managed with an other program to boot windows. but now i can not start ubuntu. please help
[03:01] <nalioth> JustinHH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:01] <egoleo> so i can give any filename right
[03:01] <pl_ice> hi ya
[03:02] <egoleo> hi ya
[03:02] <jhank> i'm looking forward to the 13th... ;)
[03:03] <mopatop> what's on the 13th? breezy release?
[03:03] <pgavin> umm.... is there some script or daemon or something that periodically resets the wtmp file on ubuntu?
[03:03] <jhank> yepp :)
[03:03] <udin> alo met siang
[03:03] <pl_ice> any one seen papers on BIND configuration, or more like pdf book :/
[03:03] <samu2> is there a way to play ALL wmvs in linux? i seem to only be able to play like a third of them. bit annoying.
[03:04] <egoleo> what player are using
[03:04] <nalioth> samu2: you'll have to ask Uncle Bill to help you with that question
[03:04] <egoleo> for that
[03:04] <_iGadget_> samu2: are you sure those others don't have DRM?
[03:04] <jhank> warty was reaaaally promising but a few bugs made me angry like skype (i know it wasnt ubuntu's fault)
[03:04] <mopatop> I'd love a BIND graphical config
[03:04] <jhank> what else... i already forgot...
[03:04] <pl_ice> mopatop ,i'm listening ...
[03:05] <Chase> how do i stop kerenl modules autoloading in the new ubuntu 5.10 preview? I cant remember how i did it before :-(
[03:05] <ardiansyah> alo
[03:05] <lukenova> hello
[03:05] <egoleo> hello
[03:05] <pl_ice> mopatop , so u don't have any material on it?
[03:05] <Chase> hello
[03:05] <samu2> _iGadget_, VLC says "[00000251]  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'. VLC probably does not support this sound or video format."
[03:05] <pl_ice> i
[03:05] <mopatop> pl_ice: no heh :'(
[03:06] <pl_ice> :(
[03:06] <samu2> so yeah, format not supported. but i was wondering if i might be missing some codecs or something.
[03:06] <nalioth> samu2: yes, microsoft changes the codecs all the time, just so non-windows users cant use it
[03:06] <nalioth> samu2: you are screwed just like the rest of us
[03:06] <lukenova> i have a question. i'm semi-new to linux. i would like to install this and try it out...i've already tried the live-cds for both ubuntu and kubuntu...but i just want to ask...can i install it without having to lose my windows partition? cuz i'd like to be able to fall back to windows if i need to...
[03:06] <deFrysk> samu2, its what they say 'policy"
[03:07] <egoleo> great
[03:07] <egoleo> u can
[03:07] <nalioth> lukenova: yes you can
[03:07] <egoleo> buit what us ur disk size
[03:07] <samu2> can you play this one? http://www.cthulhulives.org/cocmovie/trailer.html either the mov or the wmv.
[03:07] <egoleo> what is ur disk size
[03:07] <ProN00b> samu2, check other video players, xine, mplayer (of course vlc is best)
[03:08] <nalioth> samu2: install libquicktime
[03:08] <lukenova> i have a 120gb and a 80gb HD in this machine
[03:08] <nalioth> lukenova: you can easily dual boot
[03:08] <ProN00b> there is libquicktime ?
[03:08] <samu2> nalioth, umm yeah. but does that include a plugin for mozilla?
[03:08] <lukenova> but the one i'm thinking about installing on has a 40gb i think
[03:08] <deFrysk> lukenova, 10 gigs is plenty for ubuntu
[03:08] <nalioth> samu2: mozilla mplayer plugin
[03:08] <deFrysk> lukenova, so should be no prob
[03:08] <nalioth> lukenova: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[03:09] <lukenova> awesome...i'll probably download and give it a try then...thanks for your help
[03:09] <samu2> nalioth, E: Couldn't find package libquicktime
[03:09] <egoleo> cool
[03:09] <deFrysk> lukenova, if you would like to share between files easyly from ubuntu-windows make a share partition using vfat
[03:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell samu2 about sources
[03:09] <nalioth> samu2: enable universe and multiverse
[03:10] <samu2> i thought i enabled all of those already
[03:10] <egoleo> i upgraded from hoary to breezy
[03:10] <ProN00b> samu2, apt-cache search libquicktime reveals that the name is libquicktime1
[03:10] <egoleo> but my xserver is not working
[03:10] <egoleo> given me errors
[03:10] <Gorku> people, i'm having some problems with alsa, can someone help me a bit? ;)
[03:10] <samu2> ProN00b, that helps.
[03:10] <egoleo> errors: can't create serverauth
[03:11] <egoleo> no permission
[03:11] <udin> alo
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> Gorku, if you never ask ... we never know
[03:11] <egoleo> ask what u want Gorku
[03:11] <samu2> will firefox go crazy if i have both mozilla mplayer plugin and the mozilla vlc plugin installed?
[03:11] <ProN00b> i don't think it will enable you to play proper quicktime with vlc (i think you could bevore, but most new quicktime vids use a newer sound codec you can't play)
[03:11] <zdavidlnx> bye
[03:11] <ProN00b> mozilla wont, samu2, however, the universe will colapse...
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> samu2, try it ... if firefox goes nut tell me ... i wanna do it as well
[03:12] <samu2> ProN00b, i dont feel like ive had as much trouble with mov as with wmv
[03:12] <egoleo> do u also have the same problem when u install breezy with firefix
[03:12] <nalioth> samu2: the more modern microsoft codecs wont play no matter what you do
[03:13] <ProN00b> samu2, i couldn't play quicktime sound (in vids from apple.org) with vlc yet, can you ?
[03:14] <samu2> ProN00b, hmm. i think the doom trailer was without sound...
[03:14] <samu2> can i also ask how youre supposed to upgrade to breezy when it gets released in a few days?
[03:14] <ProN00b> negative
[03:15] <egoleo> just do sudo vi /etc/apt/source.list
[03:15] <pl_ice> hi again
[03:15] <egoleo> and change all hoary to breezy
[03:16] <ProN00b> holy
[03:16] <ProN00b> does that work ?
[03:16] <nalioth> samu2: apt makes it easy, just a change in wording from "hoary" to "breezy"
[03:16] <ProN00b> why isn't there no gui way to do it ?
[03:17] <ProN00b> would be a feature for the updatereminder
[03:17] <egoleo> yeah
[03:17] <egoleo> that is what i am doing now
[03:17] <neco> hello
[03:17] <slibs> amm
[03:17] <egoleo> i am using breezy now
[03:17] <ProN00b> you r modding the updatereminder, egoleo ?
[03:18] <samu2> hmm, is there no way to just press a "upgrade to breezy" button somewhere?
[03:18] <slibs> so i can change my hoary to breezy with apt-get?
[03:18] <egoleo> nopes
[03:18] <nalioth> samu2: not quite THAT easy
[03:18] <ProN00b> thats uncool
[03:18] <ccooke> slibs: yes. However, there is some risk involved.
[03:18] <pl_ice> hey, is there a way to 'join' 2 pc so that their processes can be split onto 2 processors??
[03:18] <egoleo> but one thing u have to comment the the first line of that file
[03:18] <ccooke> slibs: it'll be mmuch easier when breezy is fully released
[03:18] <egoleo> which is that cdrom something something
[03:18] <scandium_> ok, I was told there are other people having the "read error" during breezy installation problem and it is said to be caused by enabling DMA, is there a way to boot with IDE DMA disabled to at least get breezy installed? (ide=nodma doesn't seem to work)
[03:18] <slibs> ccooke: hah like what?, using windows is a risk
[03:19] <samu2> It just seems like such a workaround to change all instances of hoary to breezy in a textfile somewhere.
[03:19] <ProN00b> when will breezy be released ?
[03:19] <egoleo> yeah
[03:19] <slibs> ProN00b: topic?
[03:19] <samu2> Instead of having an actual upgrade -system command or something. Or a GUI tool to do it.
[03:19] <egoleo> then when u finish with that
[03:19] <ProN00b> as i said, they should put it in the gui updater
[03:20] <egoleo> u do sudo apt-get update
[03:20] <egoleo> and then
[03:20] <ProN00b> su > sudo
[03:20] <egoleo> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:20] <nalioth> samu2: if you follow the link in the /topic, you'll find info on a one-line command to issue in the terminal, and then you can use your 'easy button'
[03:20] <ccooke> slibs: slightly more risky than running windows for a couple of months, I guess :-)
[03:20] <egoleo> that should work fine for ur new ubuntu breezy
[03:20] <egoleo> is working perfect for me
[03:20] <ccooke> slibs: the older a hoary install and the more software you have on it, the more chance of the upgrade breaking something.
[03:21] <obsvuugj> can I reduce a partition with partman ?
[03:21] <egoleo> comment the backports too
[03:21] <samu2> nalioth, do you mean the upgrading to breezy link?
[03:21] <slibs> ccooke: oh shit :D
[03:22] <ccooke> slibs: heh
[03:22] <slibs> sounds like it going to crash for sure in my case
[03:22] <ccooke> slibs: if you have an older install with lost of customisation - just install from the CD.
[03:22] <ccooke> make a backup of your home directory
[03:23] <slibs> mm
[03:23] <nalioth> samu2: type /topic
[03:23] <obsvuugj> and how can the fingerprint reader work on a mIcRo$oFt keyboard ?
[03:24] <slibs> im just thinking that is it wise to upgrade to breezy as soon as it'll be released :/
[03:24] <samu2> nalioth, I suppose you mean http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes? It says that there's a risk involved to it.
[03:24] <egoleo> if dont want to play with ur system
[03:24] <egoleo> then u should wait for sometime
[03:24] <egoleo> b4 u upgrade
[03:25] <slibs> like should i stick with hoary for a while, since i finally got things like i want them to be, except that my cd-rom drive wont burn cd's or dvd's anymore :/
[03:25] <egoleo> but at least for now is cool on my system
[03:25] <egoleo> i love breezy
[03:25] <egoleo> now is fast
[03:25] <nalioth> samu2: right now breezy is still being polished. there is a small small chance if you upgrade something might come down and bodger your box
[03:25] <egoleo> nautilius is also a real browser
[03:25] <slibs> is there a page which tells what's different in breezy?
[03:25] <egoleo> cool
[03:25] <egoleo> more stuffs
[03:25] <nalioth> samu2: very small
[03:25] <whyameye> is there a sample rate convertor for sound at the command line? Audacity isn't doing it's job...
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> slibs, won't burn ? using what program ? k3b ?
[03:25] <Gorku> i've a laptop with a es1688 card, everything seems to be ok, but nothing produces sound :/
[03:25] <egoleo> google for it
[03:25] <slibs> wickedpuppy: yeah
[03:25] <egoleo> breezy
[03:26] <slibs> wickedpuppy: some update caused that
[03:26] <egoleo> or check on ubuntu.org
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> is it common ??
[03:26] <samu2> slibs http://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/5.10preview
[03:26] <slibs> common like what?
[03:26] <egoleo> sound too is cool
[03:26] <neco> Gorku, es1688? I had one before
[03:26] <egoleo> and i like totem is now great
[03:27] <neco> Gorku, ESS lol
[03:27] <samu2> nalioth yeah im not upgrading yet. but i am just wondering what the official procedure for upgrading when breezy is officially available, is gonna be like.
[03:27] <Gorku> neco: i think that is that card, /proc/asound/cards says that, but the sound doesn't work
[03:27] <nalioth_wrkn> samu2: same as the one outlined in the wiki
[03:27] <egoleo> that is all i have told u
[03:28] <Gorku> the apps detect the card, but they doesn't work
[03:28] <slibs> oh "Further enhancements to laptop support (hot keys,"
[03:28] <neco> Gorku, modprobe...
[03:28] <Gorku> and the mixers work also
[03:28] <slibs> that sound's good!
[03:28] <Blissex> Gorku: work thru the troubleshooting section of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 but I remember other people had trouble with a 1688 and could not fix that.
[03:28] <samu2> so you are supposed to replace your sources.list manually and then run apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:28] <Gorku> ok, thanks
[03:28] <egoleo> update first
[03:28] <neco> Gorku, I have some debian notes about ess
[03:29] <samu2> i just think replacing a text file somewhere to update your whole system feels a bit flimsy.
[03:29] <egoleo> b4 dist-upgrade
[03:29] <egoleo> that is what i doing now
[03:29] <pl_ice> hey, are there any howto caming as standart with ubuntu? where abouts?
[03:29] <egoleo> is working
[03:30] <neco> my ess isa card seems to be fine...
[03:34] <scandium_> does anyboy know if breezy will be installable using DVD drives which have the Philips Nexperia PNX7860E chipset? (BenQ and Plextor use it, perhaps others, breezy isn't installable using them :( Is this even a known problem?
[03:34] <scandium_> "if breezy final will be", I mean
[03:36] <fullybad> does Ubutu support two network cards ?
[03:36] <scandium_> yes
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> fullybad: yeh, it does
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> scandium_: im suprrised it wont
[03:36] <cef> ok, who broke usplash?
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> have you checked bugzilla? this is teh first i have hear of it
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> cef:  the devs
[03:37] <fullybad> but  since I put the second one I do have internet connection anymore
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> fullybad:  ist probalby trying to use the wrong card.
[03:37] <scandium_> Kamping_Kaiser, there is a "enable DMA by default for drives that are known to work"-bug and I heard that happens when DMA is enabled, but I don't know if 1) this is true and 2) the bug is related to that
[03:37] <fullybad> no
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> and fwiw, i have 2 cards n my box
[03:37] <cef> Kamping_Kaiser: I'm going to blame Daniel Stone.. if only cos even if it isn't his fault, I'm sure he deserves the blame for something!
[03:38] <scandium_> Kamping_Kaiser, there are a few people on ubuntuforums.org which have that problem...the installation just fails with a read error at the beginning of the curses installer
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol cef, dont blame dan
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> hes from aust ;)
[03:38] <fullybad> the second one is not configure
[03:38] <ccooke> cef: update to 0.1-21
[03:38] <fullybad> should i configure the second one also ?
[03:38] <fullybad> ?
[03:38] <ccooke> cef: and do a  dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[03:39] <pl_ice> any one connected 2 pc together to use 2 processors at one time??
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> scandium_: tryied doing an install with dma off?
[03:39] <ccooke> cef: okay?
[03:39] <scandium_> Kamping_Kaiser, like "linux ide=nodma"? doesn't work
[03:39] <cef> ccooke: you mean the one I have installed which DOESN'T work?
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> fullybad: check in system -> admin -> networking
[03:39] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser ws wrong with aust ;)
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> make sure its right in there
[03:39] <ccooke> cef: tried the dpkg-reconfigure line?
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. pl_ice, im not perfect :P
[03:39] <HiddenFly> is there a good download manager that can download simultaneously from multiple servers?
[03:39] <scandium_> Kamping_Kaiser, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71401 - and the first person responding told me he has the same problem and looking at the thread he posted this problem is there for months :)
[03:39] <cef> Kamping_Kaiser: I'm from aus as well.. Daniel deserves everything he gets *grin*....
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> scandium_: hm. :/
[03:40] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser but u gettin there ;)
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> HiddenFly: downloader for x?
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> lmao Pl, thanks ;)
[03:40] <HiddenFly> Kamping_Kaiser: http/ftp
[03:40] <BlueEagle> hiddenfly: wget
[03:40] <HiddenFly> k
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> cef: lol. go to sleep :)
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> its late in aust
[03:41] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser 21:40 ;)
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> 23:11 :)
[03:41] <cef> ccooke: never asks me any questions, even using -plow, so no difference.
[03:41] <BlueEagle> 15:40
[03:41] <fullybad> yes I 've done it
[03:41] <pl_ice> west side :D
[03:41] <ccooke> cef: what?
[03:41] <cef> ccooke: only thing I can think of is that it's broken for nvidia users
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> foriener :P
[03:41] <fullybad> but  the second network card is inactiv
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> j/k
[03:41] <ccooke> cef: it should have nothing to do with nvidia.
[03:41] <cef> ccooke: 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow usplash'
[03:41] <ccooke> cef: what never aksked you a question?
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> fullybad: are tehy both pluged in? so you have set the default gateway?
[03:42] <ccooke> cef: it doesn't.
[03:42] <fullybad> yes
[03:42] <cef> ccooke: "ccooke> cef: tried the dpkg-reconfigure line?"
[03:42] <fullybad> they are both plugin'
[03:42] <ccooke> cef: yes, the one I gave you
[03:42] <ccooke> cef: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[03:42] <HiddenFly> well, how can i make wget to use multiple servers?
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> fullybad: i mean both with cables attached
[03:43] <fullybad> and I've seted the default gw
[03:43] <cef> ahh missed that
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> not in the pc :|
[03:43] <fullybad> no
[03:43] <fullybad> only one in moment is with cable attached
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. make sure they are on different networks, and (i just realised) check whats in /etc/resolv.conf
[03:44] <fullybad> I just pluge the second one
[03:44] <pl_ice> fullybad disable ur fwall, i got 2 netw. and a problem couse ifup one 2nd is not premitted
[03:44] <fullybad> and I have two different network cards
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> fullybad: yes, we get that bit
[03:45] <cef> ccooke: of note: "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...
[03:45] <cef> "
[03:45] <ccooke> cef:where are you getting that?
[03:46] <ccooke> cef: that sounds like nothing to do with usplash
[03:46] <cef> ccooke: after running that dpkg-reconfigure line
[03:46] <fullybad> how can i dissable ifup ?
[03:46] <cef> ccooke: I know.. just pointing it out
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> "... i want to disconnect, i want to break free, i want to cut of the electronic electronic leash...."
[03:46] <pl_ice> ifdown ...
[03:46] <ccooke> cef: try rebooting.
[03:46] <BlueEagle> kamping_kaiser: No you don't.:P
[03:46] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, no you don't
[03:46] <fullybad> ok
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:46] <[LethAL] > ROFL
[03:46] <fullybad> thx
[03:46] <cef> ccooke: just about to.. bbk
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> nice boys/gilrs ;)
[03:47] <fullybad> I will now lol
[03:47] <BlueEagle> [lethal] : ^5
[03:47] <[LethAL] > :P
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[03:47] <mattaion> hello, i just added k3b, how can i open it ?
[03:47] <apokryphos> mattaion: alt+f2 -> k3b
[03:47] <pl_ice> ALT f2
[03:47] <mattaion> zhx
[03:48] <mattaion> thx
[03:48] <fullybad> where can i get a howto about the ifup ifdown issue ?
[03:48] <alumno> hola
[03:48] <Seveas> man ifup
[03:48] <fullybad> thx
[03:48] <Seveas> hi alumno
[03:48] <alumno> hola
[03:49] <alumno> what you
[03:49] <egoleo> hola
[03:49] <fullybad> so I going reading now :-)
[03:49] <pl_ice> any one got BIND up and running?
[03:49] <SanderD> Hi! Would it be a bad idea to try WineCVS? Can I easily undo it to install a .deb version later?
[03:49] <alumno> alguno que hable espaol
[03:50] <[LethAL] > Anyone have any ideas why my wireless connection allways thinks it's fine but I occasionally have to unplug my adapter, plug it back in and then ifup it... So I don't think it's cordless phones. Anyon have any other ideas?
[03:50] <kevor> how to add $a and $b in a bash script? b is 0 and a is 0.001
[03:50] <apokryphos> SanderD: I presume it's a simple compile from source, in which case the answer is: yes, most probably.
[03:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> pl_ice: i did, but with a lot of hand holding (on another box ;D)
[03:50] <HiddenFly> im trying to install downloader for x, and when i do ./configure i get this error: checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[03:50] <HiddenFly> how to fix that?
[03:50] <apokryphos> SanderD: after you make install just make sure you keep the source, and then you can do a make uninstall when you wanna remove it
[03:50] <thenuke> alumno: #ubuntu-es
[03:50] <searcher`> HiddenFly: did you install build-essential?
[03:51] <pl_ice> [LethAL]  join the club :/ maybe it's overheating
[03:51] <SanderD> apokryphos: Okay, then I'll try that.
[03:51] <HiddenFly> searcher`: nope, how can i do that?
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> kevor: #bash
[03:51] <egoleo> install the the essential-compilers
[03:51] <searcher`> HiddenFly: apt-get install build-essential
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> HiddenFly: whats wrong with apt :|
[03:51] <searcher`> put sudo in front of that
[03:51] <[LethAL] > pl_ice, It doesn't do it in XP... go figure ;)
[03:51] <egoleo> which would include c++ comp
[03:51] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser need some howto just for easy oneoff setup, on lan only school project
[03:51] <hon> how can I downgrade to 2.6.11 ?
[03:51] <pl_ice> [LethAL]  dmesg then
[03:51] <cef> ccooke: worked. thanks. now if only I can stop a number of the lower panel apps from causing issues at bootup.. *sigh*
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> you cant afaik
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> pl_ice: not sure i can help :/
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> the 'real easy ' bit is the tricky bit
[03:52] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser , oki
[03:52] <pl_ice> [LethAL]  are u usin acx chip?
[03:52] <[LethAL] > pl_ice, rt2570
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> pl_ice: linuxfromscratch.org has good tutes (skip the compile bits) otherwise, basicly right most of the time
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> gentoo is another realy good one
[03:53] <hon> Seveas: how can I downgrade to 2.6.11 ?
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> hon i dont think you can
[03:53] <cef> ok, I need food.. bbk later ppl
[03:53] <searcher`> hon: you can, but you'll have to learn how to use pinning in apt
[03:53] <pl_ice> [LethAL]  neh i got acx and that happens, try to change ur settings on router, that helped a lot mtu max
[03:54] <hon> what about compiling from source?
[03:54] <searcher`> hon: that would work too :-)
[03:54] <[LethAL] > pl_ice, I'm pretty sure it can't go higher than what it is now
[03:54] <hon> I am a simple (minded!) user, which one is easier?
[03:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> hon, why do you need the old kernel?
[03:55] <searcher`> hon: using apt
[03:55] <hon> spca5xx driver hangs up for me
[03:55] <apokryphos> hon: to downgrade: just install the other kernel (select it from synaptic); if you can't, just remove the old one and then add it in
[03:55] <pl_ice> [LethAL]  how about the other settings? speed of transmition, i changed 3-4 of them, it become more stable o/w dunno
[03:55] <apokryphos> hon: the 2.6.11 will still be used however until you reboot
[03:55] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: 2.6.11 was a known buggy/problematic kernel
[03:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah ok
[03:56] <hon> oh! so perhaps I need 2.6.10?
[03:56] <bina> whats colony 5 mean?
[03:56] <apokryphos> yes, or -- if you're on breezy -- 2.6.12
[03:56] <pl_ice> apokryphos so what's the latest on ubuntu? couse kernel.org got newer that i can find ...
[03:56] <hon> yep I'm on breezy
[03:56] <apokryphos> bina: the Colonies are snapshots of the development work (of breezy)
[03:56] <nitzan> any1 can help with wifi problems?
[03:56] <[LethAL] > pl_ice, Maybe taking the machine off the DMZ may help
[03:56] <[LethAL] > :P
[03:56] <apokryphos> pl_ice: newest on ubuntu breezy is 2.6.12; on Hoary 2.6.11 -- but it's recommended you don't use that, really.
[03:57] <egoleo> how do i use my infra red with ubuntu
[03:57] <apokryphos> bina: ...on ISOs, that is. See /topic for link.
[03:57] <bina> apokryphos: will do.  thanks
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> egoleo: stand on one hand, the wave your right foot right.... then.....etc
[03:57] <pl_ice> [LethAL]  don't think so, .. dmz is just coverting u with fwall or not... not good idea...
[03:57] <pl_ice> apokryphos ok
[03:57] <apokryphos> hon: you want .12, that is.
[03:57] <hon> so let me give 2.6.12 another try.
[03:58] <egoleo> kamping
[03:58] <egoleo> what is that
[03:58] <[LethAL] > pl_ice, in the words of ubotu, "NO SPEAKE ENGLISH!"
[03:58] <hon> but my machine still hangs when using v4l
[03:58] <egoleo> what do i need b4 my infrared works
[03:59] <pl_ice> bed time :/
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> pl_ice: jsut a tic
[03:59] <nitzan> Does anyone have drivers for wifi card: ipn2220 ?
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BIND9ServerHowto?highlight=%28bind%29 < pl_ice
[03:59] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser thnx
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> good luck :)
[04:00] <pl_ice> yeh :)
[04:00] <[LethAL] > nitzan, try google ipn2220 linux
[04:00] <egoleo> Kamping_Kaiser
[04:00] <egoleo> u gonna help me?
[04:00] <egoleo> with infrared?
[04:00] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser u gett' popular ;)
[04:00] <coobra> im trying : sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5. is there any one that has the same probs  like me i just can installit :/
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> egoleo: i havent used it, im trying to find some stuff in teh wiki
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol pl_ice
[04:00] <pl_ice> egoleo what's wrong?
[04:00] <apokryphos> coobra: it's no longer in hoary-extras
[04:01] <egoleo> download java direct from sun
[04:01] <coobra> ohh
[04:01] <apokryphos> coobra: you on hoary or breezy?
[04:01] <egoleo> then u install it
[04:01] <coobra> hoary :/
[04:01] <apokryphos> egoleo: no, there's debs around for it
[04:01] <egoleo> yeah
[04:01] <apokryphos> coobra:  giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs
[04:01] <egoleo> i normally download it
[04:01] <forkqueue> coobra: Use make-jpkg from debian unstable
[04:01] <egoleo> and fakeroot it
[04:01] <nitzan> LOL, i Know to use google - i'm just looking for a .deb pkg
[04:01] <coobra> ok
[04:01] <forkqueue> coobra: It'll build you a .deb from the Sun .bin
[04:01] <egoleo> for it to become and deb file
[04:01] <apokryphos> coobra: download the .deb and dpkg -i <package> -- that's the best/easiest way.
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> !infrared
[04:02] <apokryphos> forkqueue: no point; there's debs already for it.
[04:02] <[LethAL] > nitzan, add the word deb then ;)
[04:02] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Kamping_Kaiser
[04:02] <pl_ice> c ya
[04:02] <[LethAL] > !wiki infrared
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
[04:02] <coobra> ok
[04:02] <[LethAL] > :/
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[04:02] <egoleo> i said i want to know how to use the infrared on ubuntu
[04:02] <whyameye> openoffice channel is dead. Can anybody help me with a question on hyperlinks in ooimpress? I can't seem to delete/move them or change them in any way.
[04:02] <egoleo> how to activate it
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> egoleo: i cant find anything on it, so i wont be much use
[04:03] <apokryphos> egoleo: you've said your question about, erm, twenty times =)
[04:03] <egoleo> ok
[04:03] <egoleo> so u help
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> apart from the laptop testing bit ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting/InfraRedPNP?highlight=%28infrared%29
[04:03] <hon> what was used to compile the kernel in breezy? 4.0.1? or 3.4, ... ?
[04:03] <egoleo> yes
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> have fun....
[04:03] <apokryphos> egoleo: if someone is able/willing to help, they will
[04:03] <egoleo> ok
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> hon, something in 4
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure exactly
[04:03] <egoleo> someone should
[04:03] <chrisbudden14> Hello, the network manager for the panel, for my wireless connection the signal strength keeps changing
[04:04] <[LethAL] > egoleo, try installing irda-utils
[04:04] <chrisbudden14> but the connection is still there
[04:04] <[LethAL] > chrisbudden14, That's called normality
[04:04] <egoleo> thnx
[04:04] <egoleo> i will
[04:04] <hon> is it the same version that I receive through apt-get install gcc or not?
[04:04] <chrisbudden14> it hasn't been doing it though
[04:04] <chrisbudden14> and im in the same place
[04:04] <[LethAL] > egoleo, be aware that I've never used IR though
[04:04] <egoleo> so sudo apt-get irda-utils?
[04:04] <egoleo> ok
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> hon, in breezy yes
[04:04] <hon> good
[04:04] <hon> thanks
[04:04] <[LethAL] > egoleo, sudo apt-get install irda-utils
[04:04] <egoleo> ok
[04:04] <primoturbo> hey guys in order to access a mount in gnome what do I need to do
[04:05] <primoturbo> how come I cannot open the folder?
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> lirc isnt it [LethAL] ?
[04:05] <wesley> people... i've just installerd the ubuntu ..so i'm seeing that this one is so slow
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> primoturbo: what mount point?
[04:05] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, I did /exec apt-cache search infrared, dont' blame me :P
[04:05] <wesley> i'm using a notebook hp nx6125
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:05] <primoturbo> it's a windows mount
[04:05] <[LethAL] > primoturbo, I have the same problem... not sure about it
[04:05] <egoleo> thnx
[04:05] <chrisbudden14> [LethAL] , any idea why it would suddenly start happening.
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. i cant remember the bots entry for windows
[04:05] <fbn> which package is Places / Network Servers for a bugreport?
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ntfs
[04:06] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[04:06] <[LethAL] > chrisbudden14, Cordless phones probably
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> i expect your problem is perms [LethAL] 
[04:06] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, so did I
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> we must both be smart ;)
[04:06] <chrisbudden14> [LethAL] , it has only just started happening and the connection speed is still there, same as always
[04:07] <[LethAL] > chrisbudden14, heat... wireless things get hot
[04:07] <chrisbudden14> i see
[04:08] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, I chown'ed the mount point then mounted it... nothing
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah, no, problems with fstab :)
[04:08] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, of course, I only needed to install some packages so I used sudo -i
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> you need to add a usermask to the fstab line for the filesystem
[04:08] <[LethAL] > Isn't NoName Script for mIRC?
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, afaik
[04:09] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, you mean user,uid=1000?
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> looks right, but i forget exactly (thank god - i have no need to remember :D)
[04:10] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, I don't really now... I just get the ext2ifs driver if I need something for Ubuntu (i.e. packages to get net access)
[04:10] <catfox> do echo $UID and add uid=500 (or whatever number) to the fstab
[04:10] <[LethAL] > need to now*
[04:10] <chrisbudden14> [LethAL] , ironically when i unplug the antenna from the router, the signal strength is better
[04:10] <X3M> how can I extract *.rar?
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about fat32
[04:10] <[LethAL] > X3M, sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[04:11] <X3M> [LethAL]   thanks
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> imo changing ubuntu to point to the winmac FS generator is a bad idea, rather then point to the wiki
[04:11] <[LethAL] > X3M, then read the man page for it
[04:11] <catfox> [LethAL] , X3M unrar-nonfree?
[04:11] <X3M> E: Couldn't find package unrar-free
[04:11] <[LethAL] > X3M, nonfree is better but not 'free' :P
[04:11] <[LethAL] > X3M, universe iirc
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : what is your filesystem? ntfs or vat32?
[04:11] <CirroX> quit
[04:12] <[LethAL] > nt
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> k
[04:12] <MaRcIo> does anybody have the psp?
[04:12] <Trashcan> yeh
[04:12] <[LethAL] > Argh
[04:12] <[LethAL] > Why, anyway?
[04:12] <MaRcIo> so why do memory sticks need an adptor?
[04:13] <Trashcan> it takes the Duo format
[04:13] <MaRcIo> but does it stretch out the consolle?
[04:13] <Trashcan> i think the adaptor is for USB-plug-in-your-memory-stick
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[04:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> Trashcan: o_0 weird nic :)
[04:14] <Trashcan> :)
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[04:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[04:14] <Trashcan> ;p
[04:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:14] <Trashcan> process execution in python is really annoying
[04:15] <MaRcIo> i didn't start with <ot> so there is a programming error in this chan
[04:15] <[LethAL] > A rather big one :P
[04:15] <[LethAL] > !ot
[04:15] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, [LethAL] 
[04:15] <Trashcan> html isn't programming :p
[04:15] <jjazz> I would like to disable all suspending and hibernation on this laptop, since it doesn't come back from sleeping.  How can I tell this box never to suspend or sleep (blanking the screen is ok, though)?
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> better tell the bot about it :O
[04:15] <[LethAL] > Damn... I wanted it to say Syntax error in line 1
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol Trashcan
[04:15] <MaRcIo> is it safe to buy from hong kong sellers on ebay?
[04:15] <GNULinuxer> what is the time server of ubuntu?
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> MaRcIo: *thats* OT
[04:16] <Trashcan> nope- you buy a memory stick, and they sell you a child with no shoes
[04:16] <[LethAL] > GNULinuxer, ntp.ubuntulinux.org iirc
[04:16] <MaRcIo> ahah
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats right
[04:16] <GNULinuxer> [LethAL] : it's not up IMO
[04:16] <MaRcIo> if anybody want's to speak bout psp pls join # psp
[04:16] <Trashcan> lol
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, its not up (not pinging)
[04:16] <GNULinuxer> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah
[04:17] <MaRcIo> it is up..
[04:17] <GNULinuxer> Kamping_Kaiser: any other clock server?
[04:17] <MaRcIo> you should remove the space
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> ntp.pool.org iirc
[04:17] <MaRcIo> how geek are u from 9 to 10?
[04:17] <[LethAL] > time.nist.gov
[04:17] <Trashcan> so who wants to reorder my boot process so that PCMCIA starts up before ntp? :D
[04:17] <ccooke> Kamping_Kaiser: pool.ntp.org :-)
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks ccooke :D
[04:18] <MaRcIo> yeeeeeeeaaaaaaa it rains!!!!!
[04:18] <MaRcIo> so i won't go to basketball today!!
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> Trashcan: /etc/init.d/rc.d*/ - have fun :D
[04:18] <[LethAL] > LOL
[04:18] <Seveas> MaRcIo, take off topic things elsewhere
[04:19] <MaRcIo> i tought [LethAL]  was havin fun
[04:19] <[LethAL] > I was?
[04:19] <MaRcIo> i think so
[04:19] <MaRcIo> u called me
[04:19] <[LethAL] > Oh yeah, I've played gltron a few times today :P
[04:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> harsh
[04:21] <[LethAL] > ?
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> changing my ntp servers
[04:21] <[LethAL] > Ah
[04:22] <[LethAL] > Where can you do that?
[04:22] <[LethAL] > Oh... nm
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser>  /etc/default/ntpdate
[04:22] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, or time-admin :P
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> a gui? BLEH :p
[04:22] <[LethAL] > Somehow I don't think 127.127.1.0 is a read time server :S
[04:22] <Zeke1> how do u set up your IP address in a terminal
[04:22] <[LethAL] > real*
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> Zeke1: ifconfig
[04:23] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, sudo ifconfig <interfeace> ip
[04:23] <[LethAL] > interface*
[04:23] <doubleukay> test
[04:23] <doubleukay>  /etc/ntp.conf if you're using ntpd --> [04/10 00:21]  Kamping_Kaiser: changing my ntp servers
[04:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> ta
[04:23] <doubleukay> that's the loopback clock driver --> Somehow I don't think 127.127.1.0 is a read time server :S
[04:24] <Zeke1> and your mask?
[04:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> dont bother, but just add it in after the ip
[04:24] <[LethAL] > 127.127.1.0 = loopback? Since when?
[04:25] <ccooke> [LethAL] : 127.0.0.0/8 is loopback. Traditionally, 127.0.0.1 is brought up and assigned the hostname 'localhost'
[04:25] <doubleukay> [LethAL] , for NTPd, 127.127.x.y refers to the local clock drivers
[04:25] <doubleukay> http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/refclock.html
[04:25] <ccooke> [LethAL] : but really the entire /8 is loopback IP space
[04:25] <[LethAL] > ccc_, I thought it was actually only 1 IP...
[04:25] <doubleukay> just a convention they use.
[04:25] <[LethAL] > ccooke*
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> so i could use the other loopback addys for stuff... .hm....
[04:26] <ccooke> Kamping_Kaiser: sure. 16.7 milli of them.
[04:26] <doubleukay> uhh okay..
[04:26] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, whatever you do, make sure the starting IP is 127.0.0.1 :D
[04:26] <doubleukay> g'day and g'night.
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol doubleukay
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : :D if you insist
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> or i could make it '101' :D
[04:27] <[LethAL] > Or 0.0.0.0
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> or 10.0.0.1 :o
[04:27] <spola> heh
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> starts with 1 as well :)
[04:28] <[LethAL] > Or ::1/128 :D
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> ipv6? :|
[04:28] <[LethAL] > Ya
[04:28] <[LethAL] > O.O
[04:29] <[LethAL] > My WLAN adapter's ipv6 addy disappeared :S
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> all evil maniacs should look *backwards* for inspiration
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> not forwards :\] 
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> LMOA
[04:29] <[LethAL] > 9600 baud modems?
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, forming clusters of comodore 64
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> s
[04:30] <[LethAL] > LOL
[04:30] <MikeCamel> Hi, all.  Weird problem.  Just noticed that I can't get a GB pound sign on my UK keyboards today.  Shift-3 just gives "3"
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> im good at this evil maniac thing ;)
[04:30] <[LethAL] > MikeCamel, System, Prefences, Keyboard
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. someone on the email list had this issue, but i dont remember how he fixed it :(
[04:31] <slibs> maybe you guys can tell me, does my ubuntu use .xinitrc or .xsession?
[04:31] <slibs> by default of course
[04:31] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, I never did, I told setup that I had a UK keyboard :P
[04:31] <spola> is there anyway i can get my firefox bookmarks in the top gnome menu?
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : i dont use a UK kebd :)
[04:31] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, no, but I do
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> slibs: .xsession iirc
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[04:31] <MikeCamel> LethAL - do I need to restart X?
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> spola: not that i know of
[04:32] <[LethAL] > MikeCamel, I don't think so
[04:32] <slibs> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks ;)
[04:32] <MikeCamel> I told setup I had a UK keyboard, and it's the only one listed.  I've now made it default.
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:32] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, I use a MS inet keyboard :(
[04:32] <[LethAL] > lol
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> one thing ms do right, kbds and rodents
[04:33] <[LethAL] > MS do rodents? :O
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh :O
[04:33] <[LethAL] > I like my BenQ rodent :P
[04:33] <[LethAL] > Has a tail though :(
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> tails are sexy :)
[04:33] <Zeke1> how do you set up your gateway ip in a terminal? :)
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> Zeke1: do you want these settings to stick?
[04:33] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, sudo route add default gw <ip>
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> or are they one off?
[04:34] <MikeCamel> doesn't seem to have helped.  still no pound sign.
[04:34] <[LethAL] >  :P
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:34] <MikeCamel> 333
[04:34] <[LethAL] > 
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> i should map a key, just to be mean :D
[04:34] <[LethAL] > That's with Alt-Gr... O.O
[04:34] <MikeCamel> might try restarting X.  anyway to do that without a restart?
[04:34] <[LethAL] > Ctrl-Alt-Backspace after logout
[04:34] <MikeCamel> cya
[04:35] <Zeke1> Kamping_Kaiser, what do u mean stick?
[04:35] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, When you reboot, they stay there
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> Zeke1: after you reboot, do you want to use these settings again?
[04:35] <[LethAL] > ^^
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[04:36] <butcherbird> how do i get bash to treat ! as text and not a command?  if i do something like echo "#!/usr/bin/python" >> script.py. It will not work
[04:36] <ccooke> butcherbird: \!
[04:36] <kalyan> butherbird put it in single quotes
[04:36] <butcherbird> ccooke: ah thx
[04:36] <ccooke> ah, wait
[04:36] <ccooke> you need that line as the *very first thing* in your file
[04:37] <ccooke> and the file needs to be marked executable
[04:37] <gand> hi all
[04:37] <benkong2> hey isn't apt supposed to solve dependencies? "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:37] <benkong2>  rubrica: Depends: libxslt1-python2.4 but it is not installable" is the error I get when trying to install Rubrica any thoughts?
[04:37] <ccooke> (chmod +x filename)
[04:37] <kennethlove> why do i get a ( when i type shift-8?
[04:37] <nalioth_wrkn> benkong2: use apt to build the file
[04:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> benkong2: it will try and resolv deps
[04:38] <[LethAL] > kennethlove, because your keyboard is mapped incorrectly
[04:38] <Trashcan> was some major thing just released?
[04:38] <Trashcan> i have like 500 updates pending
[04:38] <kennethlove> [LethAL] : yeah, i guessed that. i did not change anything though.
[04:38] <Trashcan> from 5 minutes ago
[04:38] <benkong2> nalioth_wrkn; use apt to build the file?
[04:38] <Trashcan> 54 updates actually
[04:38] <Zeke1> Kamping_Kaiser,  no not really
[04:38] <benkong2> Kamping_Kaiser; thanks
[04:38] <[LethAL] > kennethlove, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace maybe :P
[04:39] <shad0w1e> when is the real breezy coming out??
[04:39] <Zeke1> ok one more question...how do i setup dhcp in a terminal....not a server
[04:39] <[LethAL] > shad0w1e, 13th
[04:39] <nalioth> benkong2: "sudo apt-get build-dep libxslt1-python2.4 && sudo apt-get -b source libxslt1-python2.4"
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> 13th
[04:39] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, you mean dhclient?
[04:39] <benkong2> nalioth; k
[04:39] <shad0w1e> [LethAL] , thanks!
[04:40] <Zeke1> [LethAL] , well yeah so my NIC obtains an IP from my dhcp server
[04:40] <gand> can I install Java SDK on PPC?
[04:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont like that keyboared changeing tool. i cant do custom key maps :(
[04:40] <nalioth> gand: yes
[04:40] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, that's what it does
[04:40] <gand> with apt get?
[04:40] <nalioth> gand: no. use this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC
[04:40] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, just sudo dhclient and it'll try to get DHCPOFFER's
[04:40] <Zeke1> but i have an IP set up for my NIC manually how do i set it so it obtains ip from DHCP server
[04:41] <Zeke1> ok
[04:41] <gand> thank
[04:41] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, then you can change it in network-admin ;0
[04:41] <[LethAL] > ;)*
[04:41] <benkong2> nalioth; can my repos be incorrect? "E: Unable to find a source package for libxslt1-python2.4"
[04:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell benkong2 about sources
[04:42] <nalioth> benkong2: quite possibly yes
[04:42] <benkong2> nalioth; thanks
[04:42] <apokryphos> benkong2: hoary or breezy?
[04:43] <apokryphos> the one in hoary is a dummy, and I don't believe that version exists in breezy
[04:43] <benkong2> apokryphos; breezy
[04:43] <collins21> will ltsp be included in the breezy release or will that only be in edubuntu
[04:43] <Xmarcel> iam a beginner: how can i save the windowposition under kde?
[04:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> collins21: a form of ltsp is included
[04:43] <collins21> and has anyone been successful in installing skype in breezy without it saying broken?
[04:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> Xmarcel: try #kubuntu, might have better luck
[04:43] <apokryphos> Xmarcel: alt+f3 -> Advanced -> Special window settings
[04:43] <collins21> where?
[04:44] <collins21> i installed the preview version last night
[04:44] <gand> thank nalioth, I need to install then Tomcat, I hope it will work
[04:44] <apokryphos> Xmarcel: or you can often use a --geometry option from command-line
[04:44] <Xmarcel> thx a lot ;-)
[04:46] <BiSK-8> hello
[04:46] <BiSK-8> Please make sure that you have installed all necessary GStreamer plugins (e.g. OGG and MP3), and run 'gst-register' afterwards.
[04:46] <BiSK-8> sorry
[04:46] <BiSK-8> i got a problem with amarok: when i go and select the engine it tells me: GStreamer is missing a registry.
[04:46] <BiSK-8> Please make sure that you have installed all necessary GStreamer plugins (e.g. OGG and MP3), and run 'gst-register' afterwards.
[04:46] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: well, do you have them?
[04:47] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: though I personally pretty much always use the xine engine
[04:47] <BiSK-8> no i dont
[04:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> and are you running -64
[04:47] <BiSK-8> i dont know how to run gst-register
[04:48] <primoturbo> which package do I need to be able to compile c++
[04:48] <primoturbo> I need gcc/c++
[04:48] <BiSK-8> no
[04:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> build-essentials
[04:48] <BiSK-8> exactly
[04:48] <BiSK-8> so
[04:48] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: /msg ubotu restricted
[04:48] <BiSK-8> apokryphos, what should i do?
[04:48] <collins21> also terminal seems to be awol in gnome menus in breezy
[04:48] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: that
[04:48] <nomed> i compiled the breezy kernel with gcc-3.4 but it seems i have still the same errors .. Unknown Symbol on modprobe module (eg: sbp2|ide-cd)
[04:49] <[LethAL] > collins21, it's in Applications
[04:49] <kennethlove> goddamn keyboard is still messed up.
[04:49] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: if you reallly want to use the gstreamer engine, that is...
[04:49] <[LethAL] > Accesories*
[04:49] <BiSK-8> and how can i use other engines?
[04:49] <nalioth> what is the pkg called? nautilus-plugin- what?
[04:49] <nomed> i load the kernel with grub on a cdrom .. is it possible that those errors are related to System.map file ?
[04:49] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: sudo aptitude install amarok-engines
[04:49] <BiSK-8> ok
[04:49] <BiSK-8> thx
[04:49] <inc|freaky> freestyle 4 ever :D
[04:49] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: I'm off for now; if you have more problems drop a line in #kubuntu and you'll probably get help
[04:49] <primoturbo> thnx getting the c++ now
[04:49] <bob2> nomed: that probably means you're trying to load modules built for the actual ubuntu kernel
[04:49] <bob2> nomed: also, the ubuntu kernel includes usplash
[04:49] <BiSK-8> thx alot guys
[04:50] <BiSK-8> and
[04:50] <primoturbo> does anyone know where I can get libSDL from
[04:50] <BiSK-8> another question
[04:50] <primoturbo> is there a package for libSDL
[04:50] <primoturbo> or SDL
[04:50] <BiSK-8> when will breezy be considered stable?
[04:50] <nomed> bob2, i'm waiting for breezy release to use usplash
[04:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> 13th
[04:50] <bob2> primoturbo: er, of course
[04:50] <bob2> primoturbo: apt-cache search libsdl
[04:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> or the week after, when the patches com in ;)
[04:51] <BiSK-8> ok
[04:51] <BiSK-8> perfect
[04:51] <zAo^> how do I remove my Gnome-settings? (eg. theme)
[04:51] <kennethlove> anyone know how i can fix this?
[04:51] <BiSK-8> and to update to the stable version from the beta version what must i do?
[04:51] <kennethlove> ( for *
[04:51] <bob2> BiSK-8: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:51] <bob2> nomed: waiting 9 days seems like a lot less hassle
[04:52] <BiSK-8> ok
[04:52] <BiSK-8> and how can i make amarok my default media player?
[04:52] <collins21> never mind re terminal - figured it out :)
[04:52] <Tellarite> I'm using "checkinstall" ... anyone ever seen this error? package architecture (x86_64) does not match system (amd64)
[04:53] <No1Viking> !tell me about breezy
[04:53] <BiSK-8> argh
[04:53] <zAo^> anyone know how I reset my Gnome-settings to default?
[04:53] <BiSK-8> amarok wont play any files
[04:53] <bob2> BiSK-8: #kubuntu
[04:53] <BiSK-8> kubuntu?
[04:53] <BiSK-8> why?
[04:54] <BiSK-8> im on gnome
[04:54] <bob2> awesome
[04:54] <kennethlove> amarok is a kde app, thought.
[04:54] <kennethlove> (though)
[04:54] <BiSK-8> argh
[04:54] <BiSK-8> but it will wok on gnome right?
[04:54] <kennethlove> so long as you have the kde libraries installed, yes.
[04:54] <[LethAL] > BiSK-8, it will work, just won't look nice
[04:55] <BiSK-8> i c
[04:55] <nomed> bob2, CONFIG_IEEE1394_SBP2=m .. and with modprobe sbp2 i have the Symbol Unknow error .. do you know what can it be?
[04:56] <bob2> nomed: this sounds like you're just not building the kernel properly
[04:57] <scorpix_> i can't upgrade/run firefox, i got this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GdZXha42.htm
[04:57] <scorpix_> in Hoary
[04:58] <poningru> I had a question
[04:58] <poningru> why is xpdf the default instead of evince?
[04:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> poningru: it is not in breezy iirc
[04:58] <ccooke> poningru: evince is the default in Breezy
[04:58] <poningru> awesome
[04:59] <poningru> cause I just installed evince and got preview and loads faster too
[04:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> or, sorry, i got that wrong " its not in HOARY iirc"
[04:59] <bob2> nomed: make sure you're setting a suffix with make-kpkg
[04:59] <tombs> hi ppl
[04:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[05:00] <kennethlove> anyone have any idea why my keyboard layout would be screwed up? i'm using synergy2 to share a keyboard. the connected one works fine but the shared one doesn't.
[05:01] <kennethlove> shared one turns * into ( and other weirdness.
[05:01] <LootBeer> why is it that i configre,make,installed xcdroast... but when i launch it it gives me error msgs?
[05:01] <nomed> bob2 make-kpkg kernel_image (/usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-3.4 )
[05:01] <kennethlove> and it has been working fine until today.
[05:01] <bob2> nomed: what?
[05:01] <bob2> nomed: --append-to-version
[05:01] <nomed> bob2, the cmd i use to generate the kernel deb pkge
[05:01] <nomed> ok
[05:03] <Hendric> how do i reconfigure the kernel (i plugged my ubuntu hardrive on another PC)???
[05:04] <nomed> bob2, what can it change if i use nomed: --append-to-version ? :/
[05:04] <robbkidd> Now, here's an odd occurance:  using the Badger, lowercase, italic "r" does not italicize in Firefox.  Specifically, I see this on Slashdot in the main page story summaries.
[05:05] <p0windah> robbkidd: fonts ?
[05:05] <robbkidd> Standby, checking.
[05:05] <robbkidd> The system default: "sans".
[05:06] <Hendric> how do i reconfigure the kernel??? (coz i plugged my ubuntu hardrive on another PC)
[05:06] <robbkidd> Checking other applications ...
[05:06] <p0windah> robbkidd: could also be an encoding issue
[05:07] <kalyan> I keep getting unauthenticated packages when i try to do upgrade for breezy
[05:07] <kennethlove> no ideas on my keyboard issue?
[05:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hendric: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image ? nfi tbh
[05:07] <collins21> odd i see the packages for ltsp on the archives but I don't see it install on the system?  any ideas?
[05:07] <robbkidd> p0windah: Could be.  Only seems to be happening in Firefox.  I'll see if I can find an italicized lowercase r on another site.
[05:07] <yor> Question: I have recently installed Breezy. I have a USB2.0 mp3 player, but my very old PC has usb 1.1. But transfering files is EXTREMELY fast! It is unbelieveable. What has happened? I have never seen USB 1.1 work this great ever!
[05:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> collins21: its not part of a default install
[05:08] <tritium> Hendric: what are you wanting to reconfigure, specifically?
[05:08] <VeRiTTo> HI
[05:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[05:08] <VeRiTTo> Anybody speak spanish?
[05:08] <collins21> ok...
[05:08] <vitriol> anybody know of any good e17 repositories for breezy?
[05:08] <Hendric> everything for the new hardware
[05:08] <kalyan> guys any idea to get rid of unauthenticated packages for dist-upgrade in breezy badger?
[05:08] <clast> anyone using gnucash on breezy?
[05:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> VeRiTTo: dont think so
[05:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> i think they all got banished to the -es chan ;)
[05:08] <[LethAL] > VeRiTTo, the people in #ubuntu-es do
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> yay. i beat [LethAL]  for once :D
[05:09] <VeRiTTo> Thanks
[05:09] <[LethAL] > :(
[05:09] <LootBeer> hows ubuntu better than debian??
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> smaller install
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> running quicker
[05:09] <[LethAL] > LootBeer, Less coffe mats
[05:09] <ccooke> LootBeer: wrong question.
[05:09] <[LethAL] > coffee mats*
[05:09] <ccooke> LootBeer: It's not. It's just different
[05:09] <tritium> Hendric: you don't need to reconfigure the kernel.  If you're using a stock ubuntu kernel, the appropriate modules will be loaded.  Is there a problem/
[05:09] <yor> Has some genius figured out a way to emulate USB2.0 with USB1.1? I can transfer 80 megs in a few seconds with Breezy
[05:09] <VeRiTTo> NObody answer me
[05:09] <tritium> ?
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> LootBeer: they both have their places
[05:09] <ccooke> LootBeer: If you want a desktop environment, Ubuntu is better.
[05:10] <VeRiTTo> Help me please
[05:10] <ccooke> if you want a server, Debian is better.
[05:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> yor: i doubt it, but its possible. i expect its the cacheing
[05:10] <p0windah> LootBeer: you still around ?
[05:10] <LootBeer> i do.. but im only running 233mhz , 64mb ram pc
[05:10] <Valo> has there been any recent issues with sudo?
[05:10] <robbkidd> p0windah: Happens at other sites, too.
[05:10] <VeRiTTo> I will try to tell you my problem
[05:10] <tritium> ccooke: that's your opinion, of course
[05:10] <yaaar> word
[05:10] <yaaar> can anybody enlighten me on the benefits of using nfs vs samba? i only have linux machines here....but on the other hand, i've never used nfs
[05:10] <yaaar> also, is there a third alternative i should be considering? i'm hoping to share a 1.2TB raid
[05:10] <ccooke> tritium: whose else would it be?
[05:10] <Hendric> tritium, my DVD, CDRW drives on the previous pc are still shown as existing even if its false on the new PC.
[05:11] <MikeCamel> still having problems with pound signs, even after reboot.  anyeon?
[05:11] <ccooke> tritium: You disagree with me?
[05:11] <p0windah> robbkidd: check fonts installed, your locale settings and also have a look at what defaults encodings firefox is guessing for you
[05:11] <nalioth> yaaar: nfs is a *nix standard and is fairly bulletproof
[05:11] <VeRiTTo> I have to install vsftpd in my pc, but my pc is not on internet
[05:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> yaaar: use nfs, its native
[05:11] <tritium> ccooke: I didn't say it would be someone elses.  The point is that it's arguable.
[05:11] <yor> Kamping_Kaiser, I have unmounted the volume right after transferring. There is no lag at all. It works as fast as USB2.0 does on the computer of a friend of mine. I have never seen anything like it. In Hoary it was extremely slow (and in WinXP as well)...
[05:11] <robbkidd> p0windah: Do you not see the same thing?
[05:11] <nalioth> yaaar: samba is a condesension to windowd standards
[05:11] <twoctseven> Okay, I have not been able to get sound at all. Nothing when I login
[05:11] <twoctseven> Cannot play .wav files or mp3 files. I have installed all of the media codecs as directed in the unoffical guide
[05:11] <twoctseven> The machine i'm using is a laptop,
[05:11] <twoctseven> The choices of devices I have are: Inel-82801DB-ICH4 (Asla Mixer)
[05:11] <twoctseven> Analog Device AD1981B (OSS Mixer)
[05:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> yor: spose your lucky :)
[05:11] <twoctseven> I have tried with both devices and none worked for some reason.
[05:11] <clast> anyone using gnucash on breezy?
[05:11] <twoctseven> I have no idea why this is happening, I have done everything the Unnofical FAQ said to do to "Fix Sound" I would appericate any sort of help for this, THanks.
[05:11] <tritium> Hendric: what do you have listed in /etc/fstab?
[05:11] <ccooke> tritium: of course it is. Who said it wasn't?
[05:12] <Pelalil> Has anyone got a good way to store essid and wep key pairs in /etc/network/interfaces, so that it just work without any extra mapping scripts, (atm i have various pairs commented, and when needed, i uncomment the right one)
[05:12] <Quinthius> twoctseven: spamming is bad.
[05:12] <p0windah> robbkidd: I'm not in ubuntu right now, but I've similar problems in the past with eng+chinese machines I've setup
[05:12] <twoctseven> spam is the output of worthless information.
[05:12] <yor> Kamping_Kaiser, yep, it is really great! I just wanted to know if anyone has heard of a USB tweak implemented in Breezy. I am SOOO glad I ditched windows for Ubuntu ;)
[05:12] <poningru> twoctseven: have you tried the official faq?
[05:12] <twoctseven> yes
[05:12] <chapeaurouge> Pelalil, tried wifi-radar ?
[05:12] <yaaar> nalioth; yeah, i knew that much.......but i've also used samba a lot of times and found it to be "bulletproof" as well. are there benchmarks anyplace or anything like that? is one of them demonstrably higher performance?
[05:12] <poningru> !tell twoctseven about sound
[05:12] <twoctseven> I have tried the fix sound thing on the unoffical FAQ
[05:12] <Quinthius> twoctseven: spam is also 7 lines of text in less than 2 seconds
[05:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> yor: :D i almost wish i had some usb things to try with :)
[05:12] <twoctseven> i've trid that already, poniguru
[05:12] <tritium> ccooke: relax.  I merely commented on your statement.
[05:12] <poningru> twoctseven: ic
[05:13] <sepmike> anyone tried a ga311 with breezy?
[05:13] <ccooke> tritium: fair enough
[05:13] <Pelalil> chapeaurouge: nope, ill give it a look, thanks
[05:13] <VeRiTTo> [Kamping_Kaiser]  read me
[05:13] <primoturbo> how can I set my desktop to be 8bit color?
[05:13] <primoturbo> any ideas?
[05:13] <sepmike> I'm having speed issues
[05:13] <Hendric> tritium, it shows my non existent drives
[05:13] <tritium> Hendric: that's your problem, not the kernel
[05:13] <butcherbird> VeRiTTo: you could always just download the binary or source.  vsftpd is a pretty painless install
[05:13] <robbkidd> p0windah: Alrightie.  You suggest just changing the default to see what happens?  My default is en-us with encoding set to 8859-1.  Seems right to me.
[05:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> VeRiTTo: whats that?
[05:13] <p0windah> spent a little time this evening looking at some of the luminocity stuff and noticed its already in the breezy roadmap... very exciting
[05:13] <primoturbo> guys where do I edit the color depth of my monitor?
[05:14] <primoturbo> I need to do this for this http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/
[05:14] <tritium> primoturbo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> xorg.conf iirc
[05:14] <p0windah> robbkidd: if its 8859, try switching to UTF-8
[05:14] <yor> Kamping_Kaiser, do try if you have the chance. You will be surprised I am sure. I am running Ubuntu on a PC I built seven years ago. It may work even better on newer hardware :)
[05:14] <Hendric> tritium, so reconfiguring the kernel won't fix it?
[05:14] <tritium> primoturbo: which, in turn, edits /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[05:14] <primoturbo> I see
[05:14] <primoturbo> thnx
[05:14] <VeRiTTo> vsftpd -->> Very Security ftp Daemon
[05:14] <tritium> but you don't typically want to edit that by hand.  use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <VeRiTTo> My pc is not on internet
[05:14] <tritium> Hendric: edit /etc/fstab
[05:14] <zAo^> update-notifier uses 35% cpu; is this normal??
[05:14] <Hendric> tritium, ok ok
[05:15] <p0windah> zAo^: only if you want to be
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> VeRiTTo: you cant connect from the outside?
[05:15] <Gnuclear> i cant boot using this CD "ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso"- is it the wrong one?
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> Gnuclear: did you burn it bootable?
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> its the right one
[05:15] <p0windah> Gnuclear: that should boot, you double checked bios and also tried it on another PC with different CD drive ?
[05:15] <Gnuclear> you mean burn as ISO right?
[05:15] <p0windah> heh
[05:16] <KlinkMeister> Is there an easy way to install themes it seems really complicated
[05:16] <abarbaccia> hey - anybody here use audacity without it crashing on them?
[05:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> yours p0windah
[05:16] <Valo> Why does sudo fail to do anything (ie. "sudo touch cookie") but gksu works (ie. "gksu touch cookie") :/
[05:16] <p0windah> KlinkMeister: synaptic is the easiest way right now
[05:16] <Quinthius> KlinkMeister: what's complicated about extracting a theme to /usr/share/themes or ~/.themes?
[05:16] <KlinkMeister> cant get them to work
[05:16] <Hendric>  tritium, why is that when i open "Network Servers" it asks me for a password on a given domain blah blah.. i didn't set any.. and the only PC i can browse are the ones with windows.. am using samba.
[05:16] <VeRiTTo> I download package for vsftpd but
[05:16] <Darknight> hello
[05:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Darknight
[05:16] <VeRiTTo> root@veritto:/ # apt-get install vsftpd
[05:16] <VeRiTTo> Reading package lists... Done
[05:16] <VeRiTTo> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:16] <VeRiTTo> E: Couldn't find package vsftpd
[05:17] <leroj> i though you installed themes by dragging the .tar's and dropping them in the theme window...
[05:17] <VeRiTTo> That is the problem
[05:17] <nalioth> VeRiTTo: do not paste in here
[05:17] <robbkidd> p0windah: I've switched to a few different Western encodings, with no change.  If I change Firefox's sans font to something other that the system's "sans" (like Arial), r's italicize appropriately.
[05:17] <Darknight> anyone here know what to do to setup prolink tv tuner in breezy?
[05:17] <butcherbird> KlinkMeister: art.gnome.org has a pretty strait forward faq
[05:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok VeRiTTo
[05:17] <nalioth> VeRiTTo: use #flood or a pastebin (read the /topic)
[05:17] <VeRiTTo> [nalioth]  sorry
[05:17] <VeRiTTo> ups
[05:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you apt-get update first does it help?
[05:17] <primoturbo> okay I edited xorg.conf how do I make my computer use it?
[05:17] <VeRiTTo> I didn't know it
[05:17] <primoturbo> how do I restart it so I use 8bits
[05:18] <p0windah> robbkidd: I guess the quickest way to check if its firefox being silly is; copying some text from firefox into openoffice or gedit
[05:18] <Quinthius> primoturbo: log out, then hit ctrl-alt-F1 and login at the console, then do: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:18] <tritium> Hendric: hard to say
[05:18] <primoturbo> what does the last line do
[05:18] <paulproteus> primoturbo: Restart gdm.
[05:18] <paulproteus> From a a terminal, do : /etc/init.d/gdm stop ; /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:18] <Answer> Question: How do I get the last command issued from the history?
[05:18] <robbkidd> p0windah: The system font "sans" doesn't seem to be available in OpenOffice.
[05:18] <paulproteus> Answer: Press <UP> on the keyboard.
[05:18] <yaaar> primoturbo: or, quick/dirty way, just hit ctrl-alt-backspc
[05:18] <Quinthius> paulproteus: why stop and start instead of restart?
[05:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> VeRiTTo: run 'apt-get update && apt-get install vsftpd' without the 's
[05:19] <p0windah> robbkidd: thats abnormal
[05:19] <benkong2> what are the disadvantages to running the hoary backports repos in breezy sources.list?
[05:19] <paulproteus> Quinthius: That way I get to see a little bit more output.
[05:19] <robbkidd> p0wnidah: Abnormal is fun.
[05:19] <Answer> paulproteus: How can I do that from a shell script?
[05:19] <paulproteus> Answer: Oh.
[05:19] <p0windah> no, unusual is fun
[05:19] <Quinthius> yaaar: that way isn't very elegant and i don't think it gives programs a chance to close properly..
[05:19] <paulproteus> Answer: I don't know, I'm afraid.
[05:20] <yaaar> Answer: you don't want to do that. your history changes all the time, so you don't want to write a script expecting something in particular to be in the history buffer
[05:20] <yaaar> Quinthius: you'll note I said "quick/dirty" right?
[05:20] <Answer> yaaar: I do want to do that.  How do I get the last command issued ?
[05:21] <kennethlove> *sigh* anyone have any ideas on my keyboard problems?
[05:21] <Gnuclear> yeah, Kamping_Kaiser - wasted 4 cds already...and i burnt it as ISO
[05:21] <Answer> Question: How do I get the last command issued from the history?
[05:21] <Nermal> up arrow
[05:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> up key
[05:21] <Answer> Question: How do I get the last command issued from the history, from a shell script, without using UP Arrow
[05:22] <p0windah> press up twice, down once, left once, up three times, then down twice
[05:22] <kafeine> why can't I find wxpython in the breezy repos?
[05:22] <Nermal> tail -n ~/.bash_history
[05:22] <Quinthius> Answer: man bash
[05:22] <dreamwave> Answer, !!
[05:22] <Nermal> tail -n 1 ~/.bash_history
[05:22] <VeRiTTo> I come back, thanks
[05:22] <Gnuclear> after downloading, how can i check whether it downloaded properly...am using windows...there's an md5sumcheck thingy right?
[05:22] <yaaar> up,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,b,a,b,a,start
[05:22] <kennethlove> up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, a, b, select, start
[05:22] <egoleo> check ur bash_history
[05:22] <yaaar> kennethlove: beat ya
[05:22] <yaaar> !
[05:22] <ubotu> No idea, yaaar
[05:22] <kennethlove> yaaar: so.
[05:22] <Answer> Nermal:  .bash_history does not appear to have all the commands.
[05:22] <[LethAL] > O.o
[05:22] <Nermal> Answer: not surprised
[05:22] <yaaar> hehe
[05:22] <kennethlove> :)
[05:23] <dreamwave> Answer, i think it gets updated when you exit the shell
[05:23] <p0windah> Answer: it gets updated when you close your session
[05:23] <yaaar> Answer: it probably won't contain *any* of the commands run from scripts
[05:23] <Answer> Question: How do I get the last command issued from the history, from a shell script, without using UP Arrow or .bash_history?
[05:23] <Hendric> can anyone help me on wat to use to share files between my ubuntu PCs.. that works like windows net neighborhood..
[05:23] <ccooke> Answer: what is the problem you're trying to solve?
[05:24] <nalioth> Hendric: use NFS
[05:24] <Hendric> i can't seem to see other linux PC using samba..
[05:24] <ccooke> Answer: you can get the last thing *typed* - history | tail -1
[05:24] <[LethAL] > !nfs
[05:24] <ubotu> methinks nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:24] <nalioth> Hendric: samba is for lookin at windows boxen
[05:24] <Quinthius> Answer: !! as someone already said. there is also a history command. man bash.
[05:24] <Answer> ccooke:  When users issue certain commands I want to capture them instead of executing, with something like an alias that runs a script
[05:24] <[LethAL] > Hendric, those two links ^^
[05:24] <p0windah> Hendric: type in a terminal "set"
[05:24] <ccooke> Answer: ... capture them?
[05:24] <yaaar> Answer: 1)we have all seen your question. no need to repeat yourself so much. 2)we don't know how to go about that, because no one ever wants to do that. 3)you probably want to do something different.
[05:24] <Hendric> i'll try..
[05:25] <[LethAL] > ccooke, log I think
[05:25] <ccooke> Answer: you want to make certain commands do something else, basically?
[05:25] <Answer> yaaar: You are not being helpful.
[05:25] <kafeine> nalioth, and why not use it for connecting x boxes?
[05:25] <Answer> ccooke: Yes, to intercept potentially harmful commands like rm *
[05:25] <yaaar> Answer: you are being annoying.
[05:25] <[LethAL] > kafeine, being nfs is better
[05:25] <[LethAL] > because*
[05:25] <ccooke> Answer: what would you want to do with them, afterwards?
[05:25] <ccooke> An	do you want to run the command after logging it?
[05:25] <nalioth> kafeine: because smb is a windows protocol, and NFS is a *nix protocol
[05:26] <kennethlove> still looking for help with my keyboard.
[05:26] <Answer> ccooke: No, email it to an administrator with whoami and date
[05:26] <kafeine> khm
[05:26] <Answer> ccooke: and pwd also
[05:26] <kafeine> that's not exactly a reason..
[05:26] <nalioth> kafeine: windows = unstable and crappy *nix = 30 + years of stability
[05:26] <p0windah> does he know about user and group level security ?
[05:26] <ccooke> Answer: okay. The simplest answer is "you can't"
[05:26] <yaaar> Answer: in that case you probably just want to continuously grep everyone's histories.
[05:26] <p0windah> maybe he thinks this is windows and anyone can do anything to the filesystem they want...
[05:26] <ccooke> yaaar: does no good.
[05:26] <yaaar> Answer: or grep "ps waux"
[05:26] <yaaar> ccooke: why not?
[05:26] <Answer> ccooke:  It is easy to alias rm to run a script that executes various commands, I just want to capture the command the user entered in that script.
[05:26] <kafeine> i get the idea, yes, still, smb works rather nice between all kinds of boxes
[05:27] <Darknight> nobody knows about tv tuners in breezy?
[05:27] <ccooke> yaar: start a shell. type "echo This". type kill -9 $$.
[05:27] <tritium> Darknight: what about them/
[05:27] <kafeine> and you don't have to set up the connection twice if you accidentally need to share with with a win box
[05:27] <ccooke> yaaar: start a second shell. Look for 'echo This' ion the history. You won't find it.
[05:27] <tritium> damn flaky shift key...
[05:27] <Quinthius> Answer: can't you use $0, $1, etc. to refer to arguments passed to a script?
[05:27] <Darknight> tritium, i dont know what to do to setup my prolink
[05:27] <yaaar> ccooke: saying "it won't work in every case" is not the same as saying "it's useless"
[05:27] <p0windah> Answer: so rename the rm binary, write your own rm script and be done with it
[05:27] <nalioth> kafeine: nfs is simpler, requires no extra software
[05:28] <ccooke> yaaar: it's trivially circumvented requiring no effort.
[05:28] <Hendric> done with NFS.. but it transfer files so slow.. upto 32kbps.. to slow for a 678MB iso
[05:28] <tritium> Darknight: is there a driver for that card?  I've not heard of it.
[05:28] <Darknight> tritium, I knew how to do it in suse and modprobe but here i'm stucked
[05:28] <herbie53> is this the ubuntu technical support channel?
[05:28] <p0windah> herbie53: we try
[05:28] <tritium> yes, herbie53
[05:28] <ccooke> so, it's not useless, but the precaution fails by default.
[05:28] <Answer> p0windah: That is a good suggestion to rename the rm binary...
[05:28] <herbie53> good
[05:28] <Darknight> tritium, this is typical bttv878 card
[05:28] <ccooke> Answer: okay. you can get the parameters of a script with "${@}" inside it.
[05:28] <tritium> Darknight: is that module loaded now?
[05:28] <herbie53> i installed ubuntu the other day and when i try and access the add/remove programs
[05:28] <p0windah> Answer: although that wont prevent people from using it
[05:29] <yaaar> ccooke: the goal of this project appears to be keeping track of people's stupid mistakes, not keeping track of malicious behavior. in any case, this is a dumb way to go about it anyway
[05:29] <ccooke> Answer: but I think you should probably look at a restricted shell.
[05:29] <Darknight> tritium, how to check it?
[05:29] <herbie53> it comes up with a password box
[05:29] <tritium> Darknight: lsmod | grep bttv
[05:29] <tritium> herbie53: give it your password
[05:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> herbie53: the user created during install
[05:29] <Answer> ccooke: Yes I can get the script arguments, but the alias script wasn't getting the original command as an argument, so I wanted it from history.  I think renaming the rm binary will work
[05:30] <herbie53> i type my password and then it says child terminated with 1 status even when i enter my password or the administrator password
[05:30] <Quinthius> Answer: are you just wanting to prevent people from rm'ing stuff carelessly? if so, why not just alias rm to rm -i, or rename rm and make a new rm that runs real.rm -i
[05:30] <Darknight> tritium, looks like everything is loaded
[05:30] <tritium> herbie53: which administator password?  The root account is disabled by default.
[05:30] <ccooke> Answer: it will, as long as nobody finds out what rm has been renamed to :-)
[05:30] <tritium> Darknight: good deal
[05:30] <shekhar> can someone help me?
[05:30] <[LethAL] > herbie53, open a terminal and try sudo -i
[05:30] <herbie53> when i was setting up ubuntu it asked me to set a root password which i set
[05:30] <tritium> shekhar: go ahead and ask
[05:30] <Darknight> tritium, wait, could I paste u listing?
[05:30] <p0windah> ccooke: its air-tight
[05:31] <tritium> herbie53: no, ubuntu does not do that
[05:31] <herbie53> i have tried that password in the box to no avail
[05:31] <nalioth> Darknight: in a pastebin
[05:31] <Darknight> tritium, dont know if everything is ok
[05:31] <herbie53> oh well the admin account im not sure
[05:31] <tritium> !tell herbie53 about rootsudo
[05:31] <Answer> Quinthius: I want to prevent careless rms, but I also want to generate an email with the user, the command, the path, timestamp, etc.
[05:31] <Darknight> nalioth, ?
[05:31] <ccooke> p0windah: how do you get that?
[05:31] <Darknight> nalioth, howto?
[05:31] <p0windah> oops sorry
[05:31] <nalioth> !pastebin
[05:31] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:31] <[LethAL] > herbie53, did you do expert install?
[05:31] <herbie53> yes
[05:31] <p0windah> ccooke: its air-tight </sarcasm>
[05:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> Answer: turn up your sysloging
[05:31] <shekhar> tritium:  whenever i logout from the system menu, my session gets saved rather than restarting or shutting down, even if i choose not to save session
[05:31] <Answer> herbie53:  It's probably asking for the password of the current user, not the root pw
[05:31] <[LethAL] > herbie53, su -
[05:31] <abarbaccia> how do i use bluetooth?
[05:31] <ccooke> p0windah: ah. Better.
[05:31] <herbie53> i have tried both
[05:32] <tritium> shekhar: there's a preference that you might have accidentally set
[05:32] <[LethAL] > herbie53, "su -" will ask for root pwd
[05:32] <herbie53> what do you mean?
[05:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> herbie53: you must have got the password wrong :\
[05:32] <[LethAL] > herbie53, in a terminal
[05:32] <herbie53> i guess so
[05:32] <herbie53> do you know how i can change it?
[05:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> su asks for root password, sudo asks for your user password
[05:32] <herbie53> ok
[05:32] <herbie53> how do you do sudo?
[05:32] <Answer> herbie53:  In a terminal type   sudo /usr/bin/gnome-app-install
[05:33] <Answer> see if it launches
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> boot single user, as long as root is off, you can reset passwords there
[05:33] <p0windah> open up a terminal and type "sudo -s", then type in your password, then type "passwd root"
[05:33] <[LethAL] > Answer, he did expert install, which doesn't setup sudo properly
[05:33] <ccooke> Kamping_Kaiser: there are ways even if that works :-)
[05:33] <herbie53> oh
[05:33] <p0windah> then enter in whatever you want roots password to be
[05:33] <shekhar> tritium:  i have played around with sessions prefs to change this, but no luck... any ideas?
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) init=/bin/sh
[05:33] <p0windah> herbie53: remember, you are the master of your domain
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> *sbin
[05:33] <benkong2> !info rubrica
[05:33] <ubotu> rubrica: (An addressbook for the GNOME desktop), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.12-4ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 360 kB, Installed size: 1252 kB
[05:33] <DrTiger> hi! I have a big problem with my cd writer..
[05:33] <ccooke> Kamping_Kaiser: indeed.
[05:33] <tritium> shekhar: if it's not your sessions preferences, then no, I don't.  Sorry...
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> love it
[05:34] <abarbaccia> i need someone to explain how i connect my phone to my computer via bluetooth - the dongle is found - i just dont have any utilities to use?
[05:34] <ccooke> Kamping_Kaiser: replacing init with a shell script can get you some interesting effects
[05:34] <p0windah> if you dont master your own domain, someone else most certainly will
[05:34] <herbie53> i have opened the sudo program in terminal and it says password
[05:34] <herbie53> do i enter my user password?
[05:34] <[LethAL] > yes
[05:34] <DrTiger> uder windows I can burn fine, but in ubuntu I have not yet managed  to write a cd that is readible
[05:34] <p0windah> herbie53: just type in your normal password
[05:34] <herbie53> ok
[05:34] <herbie53> i will try it
[05:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> ccooke: i have used it onece, to reset a root password, and it worked
[05:34] <Darknight> tritium, its in pastebin now
[05:34] <ccooke> abarbaccia: what happens if you type "hcitool scan" ?
[05:34] <abarbaccia> its scanning
[05:34] <herbie53> i typed in the password and the program closed
[05:34] <DrTiger> there is no error during burning...
[05:35] <[LethAL] > DrTiger, does it go preparing... done (very quickly)?
[05:35] <p0windah> herbie53: if there was no error, it worked
[05:35] <DrTiger> no
[05:35] <_jason>  if i press ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a terminal how do i get back to X?
[05:35] <p0windah> herbie53: the terminal is still open I assume ?
[05:35] <[LethAL] > _jason, Ctrl-alt F7
[05:35] <abarbaccia> ccooke, it found my phone
[05:35] <HiddenFly> when i do make when installing downloader for x, i get errors showed in here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2742 how can i fix this?
[05:35] <herbie53> no terminal closed when i hit enter
[05:35] <_jason> [LethAL] :  thanks
[05:35] <herbie53> after typing password
[05:35] <kennethlove> gareahge!!!1
[05:35] <abarbaccia> ccooke, is there a gui tool i could use because i'm lazy right now
[05:35] <tritium> Darknight: can you put it in #flood please?
[05:35] <p0windah> herbie53: go into accessories and click on terminal
[05:35] <ccooke> abarbaccia: I've not found one in ubuntu, but there probably is.
[05:36] <herbie53> applications>accessories>terminal?
[05:36] <herbie53> terminal is not in that menu
[05:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> HiddenFly: why are you installing from source? i dont think i saw an answer :\
[05:36] <Quinthius> herbie53: system tools if using hoary
[05:36] <ubuntu_adiktus> Hello
[05:36] <herbie53> i did applications>run application
[05:36] <herbie53> oh right ok
[05:36] <fgr> hello, i have w32codecs and mp3 support ( i can listen with xmms), but both gnomebaker and serpentine can't read mp3. what do i have to do?
[05:36] <HiddenFly> Kamping_Kaiser: im installing from source cos i couldnt find it from apt-get
[05:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi ubuntu_adiktus
[05:36] <shekhar> tritium:  i believe that this is a bug with ubuntu... i cannot logout on the first try from system menu
[05:36] <ubuntu_adiktus> hello
[05:36] <ubuntu_adiktus> kamping
[05:37] <herbie53> terminal is open
[05:37] <herbie53> what do i do now?
[05:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> HiddenFly: what went wrong with apt?
[05:37] <p0windah> type "
[05:37] <Quinthius> herbie53: sudo <command>
[05:37] <p0windah> type "sudo -s"
[05:37] <tritium> shekhar: the reason I doubt that is that you're the only one that's experienced it
[05:37] <HiddenFly> Kamping_Kaiser: i couldnt find that program from it
[05:37] <ubuntu_adiktus> as of now im installing ubuntu for the first time so far i have no problem
[05:37] <herbie53> ok
[05:37] <shekhar> tritium: what could be the problem? i have been trying to figure this out for weeks, it's incredibly annoying that i cannot logout my system!
[05:37] <p0windah> herbie53: now type "passwd root"
[05:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> HiddenFly: its in universe
[05:38] <HiddenFly> Kamping_Kaiser: ok, ill recheck my repos
[05:38] <ubuntu_adiktus> does ubuntu have support for online games like MU Online and Gunbound??
[05:38] <tritium> shekhar: don't know. That sounds very obscure
[05:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> good luck hF
[05:38] <fgr> i need a GUI to burn cdaudio from mp3
[05:38] <FhaeTon> good morning
[05:38] <herbie53> where do i type passwd root?
[05:38] <FhaeTon> is anyone free to help me
[05:39] <Quinthius> ubuntu_adiktus: not unless those games have linux versions. you may have limited success using an emulator such as Cedega though
[05:39] <p0windah> herbie53: answer my messages you mung-bean so I can walk you through this
[05:39] <simbo> hi there
[05:39] <herbie53> i did
[05:39] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, gunbound won't work because of gameguard. same with MU.
[05:39] <FhaeTon> hello
[05:39] <ubuntu_adiktus> thanks
[05:39] <herbie53> on the private chat?
[05:39] <FhaeTon> can I get some help
[05:39] <p0windah> herbie53: I assure you, the channel hates reading my spam as much as I hate typing it
[05:39] <tritium> FhaeTon: ask here in the channel
[05:39] <herbie53> ok
[05:39] <p0windah> herbie53: yes, that one
[05:39] <adrian_> hi, how I can check the size of folders in, for example /home/mike ?
[05:39] <tore_> How can I make my charset-configuration be global?
[05:39] <FhaeTon> Ok
[05:39] <ubuntu_adiktus> how about yahoo messenger?
[05:40] <tore_> It wont work in aterm and such
[05:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu_adiktus: serveral chat apps do yahoo. gaim for example
[05:40] <FhaeTon> I got the Ubuntu installed but when it goes to start up the grub is saying loading but nothing happens
[05:40] <simbo> herbie: type ctrl-alt-f5, typ it in there.
[05:40] <Quinthius> adrian_: du -sh /home/mike
[05:40] <FhaeTon> Grub 1.5
[05:40] <adrian_> thanks
[05:40] <FhaeTon> [img] http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/FhaeTon_sig.jpg[/img] 
[05:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. night night all
[05:41] <FhaeTon> my comp specs
[05:41] <FhaeTon> [img] http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/FhaeTon_sig.jpg[/img] 
[05:41] <[LethAL] > So?
[05:41] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, gaim is a good client.. but i've tried YM using crossover... sadly only upto version 5.. new YMs with graphical GUIs won't work
[05:41] <p0windah> hahaha
[05:41] <p0windah> I love the flames!
[05:41] <FhaeTon> thx
[05:42] <herbie53> hello could somebody help me
[05:42] <FhaeTon> anyone know a solution to grub loading
[05:42] <p0windah> sweet jesus
[05:42] <[LethAL] > !grub
[05:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:42] <herbie53> i cannot access the add/remove programs dialog
[05:42] <abarbaccia> ccooke, how does this hcitool work - i connected to my device - now how do i transfer a file?
[05:42] <p0windah> herbie53: answer my /msg alice!
[05:42] <herbie53> i did
[05:43] <herbie53> hav a look
[05:43] <p0windah> you didnt..
[05:43] <herbie53> i did
[05:43] <herbie53> on the private chat?
[05:43] <p0windah> did you type /MSG p0windah YOU ARE MY SEX GOD !
[05:43] <p0windah> I dont think you did..
[05:43] <herbie53> no
[05:43] <fgr> what do i need to add mp3 support in gnomebaker?
[05:43] <p0windah> so type it already..
[05:43] <tritium> p0windah: please keep on topic
[05:43] <p0windah> I'm trying to help the guy
[05:43] <simbo> <newbie question alert> is the Breezy Colony 5 CD Image (as listed in the header of this channel) the final release? or will there be another release before the official release date...?
[05:44] <p0windah> he keeps asking the same asinine question over and over again
[05:44] <herbie53> and u aren't answering
[05:44] <herbie53> please help me
[05:44] <adrian_> Quinthius, how do that: I want a list of folders [in for example /home/mike]  with its sizes, and size of files that are in this folder ?
[05:44] <adrian_> [sorry for my english ;) ] 
[05:44] <Quinthius> adrian_: you can do like: du -sh /home/mike/*
[05:45] <kennethlove> simbo: no, not exactly. but it will get breezy installed so you can update to the final through apt-get/synaptic. or you can just wait until the 13th or whenever.
[05:45] <FhaeTon> I'm not sure what to do with this
[05:45] <adrian_> thats it! thanks
[05:45] <simbo> kennethlove: ahh as I thought, Many thanks
[05:45] <[fC] KingKarl\aw> hi, how can I change my X-win resolution via the reqovery console?
[05:45] <p0windah> you try your best to help...
[05:45] <taomaster> any idea when the final release comes out?
[05:45] <kennethlove> simbo: no problem.
[05:46] <mopatop> taomaster: 13th
[05:46] <kennethlove> taomaster: i heard the 13th.
[05:46] <tritium> [fC] KingKarl\aw: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:46] <Quinthius> adrian_: you can also use the --max-depth option which will move down into the directory by the number of levels you specify. for example: du -h --max-depth=1 /home/mike, will print all directories directly under /home/mike
[05:47] <[fC] KingKarl\aw> tritium: thx I'll try
[05:47] <LeeColleton> I've found a printing bug in Breezy.  My HP PSC-1210 now prints black text in color.  Help?
[05:47] <ubuntu_adiktus> what is kubuntu??
[05:47] <Quinthius> adrian_: --max-depth=2 will print anything under /home/mike and anything under those directories also
[05:47] <[LethAL] > ubuntu_adiktus, It's Ubuntu with KDE rather than Gnome
[05:47] <ubuntu_adiktus> oh i see
[05:48] <ubuntu_adiktus> my friend told me about it
[05:48] <p0windah> LeeColleton: hrmmm, double checked your printer settings arent on grey scale. I have a psc1200 and its printing and scanning fine
[05:48] <ubuntu_adiktus> whats the best to use ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:48] <adrian_> Quinthius: thanks, I will try
[05:48] <[LethAL] > ubuntu_adiktus, opinions...
[05:48] <Quinthius> ubuntu_adiktus: personal preference...
[05:48] <tritium> ubuntu_adiktus: whichever suits you best
[05:48] <Quinthius> ubuntu_adiktus: depends whether you like KDE or gnome better
[05:48] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, are you pinoy?
[05:48] <ubuntu_adiktus> opo
[05:48] <taomaster> i've had np with the install of this o/s
[05:48] <Belutz> i prefer gnome :D
[05:49] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, you hated the raid, aren't you?
[05:49] <Hendric> lolx
[05:49] <Belutz> or maybe later i'll xubuntu
[05:49] <ubuntu_adiktus> hahahaha yep i really did
[05:49] <LeeColleton> p0windah: are you using Breezy?
[05:49] <ubuntu_adiktus> puts my business upside down
[05:49] <p0windah> LeeColleton: yeah I am
[05:49] <FhaeTon> this is what i keep getting:
[05:50] <ubuntu_adiktus> Hendric
[05:50] <FhaeTon> Grub Loading stage 1.5
[05:50] <ubuntu_adiktus> can you help me?
[05:50] <Hendric> ah, better use ubuntu, get cedega and point2play, get crossover too.. helps alot
[05:50] <FhaeTon> Grub Loading, please wait....
[05:50] <p0windah> LeeColleton: you tried printing out the test page in the printer properties ?
[05:50] <zephyrmaster> Umm, why can't I install VLC? It says required dependencies can't be installed :-(
[05:50] <Hendric> online games worked fine the cedega.. except for nProtected ones...
[05:50] <ubuntu_adiktus> whats the browser in ubuntu?
[05:50] <FhaeTon> nothing happens its just stuck on that screen
[05:50] <p0windah> zephyrmaster: repositories ?
[05:51] <Hendric> online games worked fine with cedega.. except for nProtected ones...
[05:51] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, firefox
[05:51] <[LethAL] > That's better
[05:51] <tritium> ubuntu_adiktus: others are also available
[05:51] <Jakeass> Need help guys
[05:51] <zephyrmaster> I
[05:51] <[LethAL] > !helpme
[05:51] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[05:51] <zephyrmaster> I'm not sure with repository it's from
[05:52] <zephyrmaster> *which
[05:52] <[LethAL] > Jake, ask the people
[05:52] <p0windah> zephyrmaster: have you added multiverse and universe ? its probably you'll need stuff from them
[05:52] <ubuntu_adiktus> How about MU Online Hendric does it work fine with cedega
[05:52] <zephyrmaster> Okay, thanks, I'll check
[05:52] <zephyrmaster> I'm fairly sure I added them, but I might not have
[05:52] <p0windah> zephyrmaster: I think if you use the search on the ubuntu forums there would be a thread about how to install VLC and the exact respositories you need
[05:53] <dooglus> vlc is in universe.  it shouldn't have dependancies in multiverse.
[05:53] <Jakeass> I have 2 computers, one with windows and one with ubuntu, the ubuntu one doesnt boot, because the grub booter wont install to hdd or mbr, do you know where i can get a cd?
[05:53] <zephyrmaster> Ok, thanks
[05:53] <ubuntu_adiktus> How about MU Online Hendric does it work fine with cedega
[05:53] <ubuntu_adiktus> Hendric: How about MU Online does it work fine with cedega
[05:53] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, maybe it will work with cedega, but noone had it working yet. I did using wine. but i can't see the ingame fonts.
[05:54] <FhaeTon> hey what is an OS/2?
[05:54] <ubuntu_adiktus> waaa
[05:54] <Jakeass> I have 2 computers, one with windows and one with ubuntu, the ubuntu one doesnt boot, because the grub booter wont install to hdd or mbr, do you know where i can get a cd?
[05:54] <tritium> FhaeTon: an old OS from IBM
[05:54] <FhaeTon> oh
[05:54] <FhaeTon> ty
[05:54] <dooglus> Jakeass: you can get CDs from many retail outlets, both on the high street and online.
[05:54] <Jakeass> can i have a link?
[05:54] <[LethAL] > dooglus, He has it installed, he wants to boot it
[05:54] <dooglus> http://www.play.com/
[05:54] <tritium> Jakeass: why happens when you try to install grub?
[05:54] <ubuntu_adiktus> how many minutes does ubuntu installs
[05:54] <TiMiDo> Jakeass, link for what?
[05:55] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, computer speed?
[05:55] <TiMiDo> ubuntu_adiktus, depends 20 to 30 minutes
[05:55] <Jakeass> A boot cd for linux
[05:55] <TiMiDo> Jakeass, what distro?
[05:55] <LeeColleton> p0windah: even when I explicitly state "Greyscale" it prints in sickly greens.  If I take out the color cartridge, it goes through the motions and spits out a blank page.
[05:55] <TiMiDo> Jakeass, www.linuxiso.org and check there
[05:55] <[LethAL] > TiMiDo, Ubuntu, duh
[05:55] <Jakeass> ok thanks
[05:55] <yaaar> hey guys....who do i send suggestions about man pages to? the exports(5) man page has an example line in it that works, but causes a warning because of an implicit wildcard, and i sort of think it should note that in the manual. worse, the nfs(8) and nfsd(8) man pages make no mention of the exports file, which is pretty much the central config for nfs
[05:55] <dooglus> yaaar: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[05:55] <FhaeTon> is it always this hard to run linux
[05:55] <yaaar> dooglus: i don't think these pages are created by ubuntu.....
[05:55] <tritium> no, FhaeTon
[05:55] <dooglus> yaaar: doesn't matter.
[05:55] <p0windah> LeeColleton: thats odd, sounds like its trying to print your greys from your color cartridge
[05:56] <TiMiDo> yaaar, update the manpages man -U or man -u
[05:56] <dooglus> yaaar: if it's an upstream issue, the ubuntu people will forward it upstream and track the bug
[05:56] <LeeColleton> p0windah: yes, and that sounds like a bug to me because it worked before upgrading to Breezy
[05:56] <kennethlove> FhaeTon: linux is easy when you learn to tread it like the different OS that is it.
[05:56] <LeeColleton> p0windah: and the scanner works fine in b/w and color
[05:56] <zephyrmaster> Hmm, for my VLC problem
[05:56] <p0windah> LeeColleton: well if you're sure its not your ink, then you should go ahead and file a bug report
[05:56] <FhaeTon> I'm trying to learn
[05:56] <zephyrmaster> I opened all the repositories, and it says I have unresovable dependencies
[05:57] <zephyrmaster> Is it possible to still install it?
[05:57] <FhaeTon> I have never operated anything outside of ac before
[05:57] <p0windah> LeeColleton: make sure its fixed before breezy is officially released
[05:57] <zephyrmaster> I'm using an Athlon 64 if that matters
[05:57] <Jakeass> Cant find anything
[05:57] <FhaeTon> Mac
[05:57] <Jakeass> I have 2 computers, one with windows and one with ubuntu, the ubuntu one doesnt boot, because the grub booter wont install to hdd or mbr, do you know where i can get a cd?
[05:57] <tritium> zephyrmaster: you also ran sudo apt-get update after updating your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:57] <Jakeass> I have 2 computers, one with windows and one with ubuntu, the ubuntu one doesnt boot, because the grub booter wont install to hdd or mbr, do you know where i can get a cd?
[05:57] <kennethlove> FhaeTon: what are you having problems with?
[05:57] <dooglus> zephyrmaster: what do you see if you "sudo apt-get install vlc" ?  can you paste the output to the pastebin?
[05:57] <tritium> Jakeass: quit repeating!
[05:57] <[LethAL] > Jakeass, no need for flooding
[05:58] <[LethAL] > Ouch
[05:58] <st1lgar> hi, i installed breezy a few days ago, now i have ~70Mb of suggested updates everyday. Is that normal ?
[05:58] <[LethAL] > st1lgar, yes
[05:58] <dooglus> Jakeass: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-19428.html
[05:58] <tritium> [LethAL] : don't hide, silly
[05:58] <Jakeass> thanks
[05:58] <egoleo> yeah
[05:58] <p0windah> st1lgar: yeah, because you are using the "preview" release
[05:58] <st1lgar> wow, active community then :)
[05:58] <FhaeTon> Kennethlove
[05:58] <egoleo> is normai;
[05:58] <FhaeTon> onesec
[05:58] <ubuntu_adiktus> is mirc available to ubuntu?
[05:59] <dooglus> stiletto: openoffice.org2 got updated today.  that's over 50Mb I think
[05:59] <p0windah> st1lgar: its getting feedback from the community and receiving bug fixes quite frequently
[05:59] <kikinovak> Hi. Just migrating to Ubuntu from Slackware. Q: what's the Ubuntu/Debian equivalent of rc.local?
[05:59] <[LethAL] > ubuntu_adiktus, no, use XChat
[05:59] <FhaeTon> I have a 64 bit systems
[05:59] <zephyrmaster> What's the paste bin?
[05:59] <Jakeass> where do i get those files to copy to make the cd?
[05:59] <dooglus> !paste
[05:59] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:59] <ScatterBrain> ubuntu_adiktus: No, try X-Chat
[05:59] <st1lgar> p0windah: ok, thanks, nice !
[05:59] <FhaeTon> [img] http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/FhaeTon_sig.jpg[/img] 
[05:59] <p0windah> st1lgar: yeah, its exciting :)
[05:59] <ubuntu_adiktus> thnks
[05:59] <kennethlove> ubuntu_adiktus: no, mirc is windows-only. but Konversation and xchat work great.
[05:59] <ubuntu_adiktus> later after it finished installing Ill try it
[05:59] <st1lgar> changes quite a bit from my old slackware :)
[05:59] <[LethAL] > FhaeTon, stop spamming that link
[05:59] <FhaeTon> yes sir
[05:59] <ubuntu_adiktus> :)
[05:59] <FhaeTon> sorry
[05:59] <tritium> yes, FhaeTon, please
[06:00] <gearry> I had installed a full install of hoary and was impressed with how it automounted my usb drive, however, I wanted a leaner install so I reinstalled and started with just the base.  I lost that automount functionality, and am not sure how to get it back.
[06:00] <p0windah> ubuntu_adiktus: ofcourse most people in the channel are using bitchX
[06:00] <FhaeTon> I'm sorry i'll leave
[06:00] <zephyrmaster> !paste E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:00] <zephyrmaster> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:00] <ubotu> zephyrmaster: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[06:00] <tritium> no need to leave, FhaeTon
[06:00] <Jakeass> dooglus: Where do i get the files i need?
[06:00] <Belutz> zephyrmaster, theres another synaptic/apt running
[06:00] <zephyrmaster> haha, yeah, I noticed that
[06:00] <gearry> I can always go back and do things the old way, but automount sounds nice.  Can anyone give me a hint what I might want to install.
[06:00] <zephyrmaster> Let me try again
[06:01] <Jakeass> alan where do i get these files
[06:01] <dooglus> gearry: installing "ubuntu-desktop" will give you back the full install you had before
[06:01] <Jakeass>  copy /usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux.bin
[06:01] <FhaeTon> It just seems to have a problem when It trys to boot with grub it hangs up
[06:01] <gearry> but I don't want the full install
[06:01] <zephyrmaster> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:01] <zephyrmaster>   vlc: Depends: dbus-1 (>= 0.23.4) but it is not installable
[06:01] <zephyrmaster>        Depends: libflac6 but it is not installable
[06:01] <zephyrmaster>        Depends: libhal0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
[06:01] <zephyrmaster>        Depends: libmodplug0 (>= 1:0.7-1) but it is not installable
[06:01] <zephyrmaster>        Depends: wxvlc but it is not going to be installed
[06:01] <TiMiDo> oh boy
[06:01] <[LethAL] > DON'T PASTE IN HERE
[06:01] <p0windah> sweet peanut, stop that?!
[06:01] <zephyrmaster> Sorry
[06:01] <kennethlove> zephyrmaster: hey. use the pastebin.
[06:01] <tritium> zephyrmaster: !!!!
[06:01] <Belutz> don't paste in here
[06:01] <[LethAL] > !pastebin
[06:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:01] <cosimo321> Helo all. Are ther any defrag utilities for breezy or linux that will work on breezy?
[06:01] <FhaeTon> I think I have a weird setup though
[06:01] <Jakeass> LethALwhere do i get  copy /usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux.bin
[06:01] <zephyrmaster> SORRY
[06:01] <[LethAL] > cosimo321, Ext2/3 doesn't fragment
[06:01] <Denski> wow
[06:01] <dooglus> Jakeass: install syslinux
[06:02] <Belutz> zephyrmaster, are you using breezy?
[06:02] <Denski> theres so many users here
[06:02] <dooglus> Jakeass: then it will be on your disk
[06:02] <ccooke> [LethAL] : well... yes, it does.
[06:02] <zephyrmaster> Yeah, I think so
[06:02] <cosimo321> The only os I know of that didn't fragment was BeOs
[06:02] <FhaeTon> I'm running this raid0 in software
[06:02] <ccooke> cosimo321: yes, there are.
[06:02] <p0windah> Denski: and we'd all like to be your friend :)
[06:02] <zephyrmaster> Have the other packages just not been made yet?
[06:02] <[LethAL] > ccooke, I know, but not badly
[06:02] <Jakeass> dooglus: Do you have msn this is too fast?
[06:02] <Denski> anyone who can help me here
[06:02] <cosimo321> like what
[06:02] <Belutz> zephyrmaster, it might be, breezy is not stable yet
[06:02] <ccooke> cosimo321: no, beos fragmented too. It just handled things very well.
[06:02] <dooglus> Jakeass: I think Microsoft still has MSN
[06:02] <[LethAL] > Jakeass, request PM rather than MSN
[06:02] <drummer87> hey, what's the 'default gateway device' option in the network config for?
[06:02] <gearry> dooglus: I don't really want the whole desktop install
[06:02] <p0windah> Denski: ask your question and we'll try to help
[06:02] <tritium> Denski: just ask the channel please
[06:02] <ccooke> [LethAL] : under average workloads, yeah.
[06:02] <cosimo321> Be Os fragmented so little that it was barely visible
[06:02] <ompaul> selinium, a you (a)bout or (b) not here?
[06:02] <zephyrmaster> Okay, thanks
[06:03] <[LethAL] > drummer87, it's if you have a router
[06:03] <cosimo321> I sy\till use BeOs
[06:03] <p0windah> cosimo321: you an old beos user ?
[06:03] <dooglus> gearry: do you have 'hotplug' installed?
[06:03] <[LethAL] > drummer87, or are otherwise behind a network
[06:03] <cosimo321> Still to day Yes
[06:03] <gearry> I really just want to know what I need to install for that functionality
[06:03] <p0windah> yeah, I used it for about a year as my primary desktop... /me wipes away a year
[06:03] <gearry> I believe I have hotplug
[06:03] <Jakeass> dooglus where do i get syslinux
[06:03] <drummer87> [LethAL] , should it be set to the interface linked to the router?
[06:03] <dooglus> Jakeass: from synaptic
[06:03] <Jakeass> I see thank amte
[06:03] <[LethAL] > drummer87, yes
[06:03] <Jakeass> mate*
[06:04] <[LethAL] > dooglus, he can't get Ubuntu running
[06:04] <cosimo321> Any one here have a step by step to configure wacom tools on breezy?
[06:04] <[LethAL] > s/he/Jakeass
[06:04] <FhaeTon> I can say this for Linux is not for noobs
[06:04] <gearry> afirmative, hotplug is installed and detects the device
[06:04] <drummer87> [LethAL] , thanks.. that's why me net dropped then, hehe
[06:04] <poningru> FhaeTon: and you would be wrong
[06:04] <dooglus> Jakeass: which version of the OS?
[06:04] <TiMiDo> FhaeTon, just get us to it,
[06:04] <gearry> the piece I am missing is the automount
[06:04] <[LethAL] > drummer87, lol
[06:04] <poningru_sleep> FhaeTon: I can say things like pigs can fly doesnt make it true
[06:04] <[LethAL] > Jakeass, just to let you know, I'm going off now
[06:04] <poningru_sleep> anyway night guys
[06:04] <kennethlove> anyone can use linux. the setting up isnt always noob-proof
[06:04] <cosimo321> Ubuntu is aiming for the new user, I think it's the right way to go
[06:05] <tritium> good night, poningru_sleep
[06:05] <zephyrmaster> Another question, why can I not see the files of a directory when I "view as list", on see them when I view them as icons? It's an NTFS partition
[06:05] <dooglus> setting up windows isn't noob-proof either though
[06:05] <cosimo321> windows is fairly easy if you instal it for someone first
[06:05] <FhaeTon> I wouldn't even try to use windows
[06:05] <p0windah> the statistics on windows bot networks alone is proof of that..
[06:05] <FhaeTon> thats not an option for me
[06:05] <cosimo321> XP is great!!
[06:05] <cosimo321> Windows Vista comes out I think this January
[06:06] <FhaeTon> hah
[06:06] <rcdiugun> I have better luck setting up a Unix server over windoze xp. :P
[06:06] <dooglus> cosimo321: ubuntu is great too.  both windows and linux can be tricky to install properly
[06:06] <[LethAL] > :P
[06:06] <kennethlove> dooglus: no, but the average noob doesn't have to set up windows themself
[06:06] <p0windah> cosimo321: I wish I could afford to upgrade
[06:06] <kennethlove> *themselves
[06:06] <JustinHH> make: gcc: Command not found :what package must i install?
[06:06] <p0windah> hardware upgrades + software... no thanks
[06:06] <Denski> ok.
[06:06] <cosimo321> upfrade to what??
[06:06] <FhaeTon> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/01/1525221&from=rss
[06:06] <Denski> i cant play a single movie.wmv on totem
[06:06] <davro> what is this windows ?
[06:06] <dooglus> JustinHH: if you just want gcc, get package 'gcc'.  if you want a whole bunch of other build stuff, get 'build-essential'
[06:06] <kennethlove> davro: they're like a door, only smaller
[06:06] <FhaeTon> visat is gonna run a lot of people away from windows
[06:07] <cosimo321> The only non windowing os i know of is dos
[06:07] <dooglus> davro: I think it's a toy os for gamers.
[06:07] <cosimo321> There is NO OS with as many HIGH end apps as windows
[06:07] <kennethlove> cosimo321: guess you've never used linux/unix, then.
[06:07] <p0windah> OMG
[06:07] <Denski> is there anyone who knows how can i play videos on totem?
[06:07] <Ronald> Hm... can I get to the root user in any way :D ubuntu doesn't even set up a password for root (which arguably is a good thing ;P)
[06:07] <[LethAL] > kennethlove, door's aren't allways seethrough ;)
[06:07] <p0windah> lets all start flaming and stop helping ppl...
[06:07] <gearry> it looks like pmount might be what I am looking for
[06:07] <dooglus> !root
[06:07] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:07] <cosimo321> Yeah I have but they don't have the number of High end app
[06:07] <butcherbird> Denski: you apt-get w32codecs yet?
[06:08] <p0windah> cosimo321: silliness aside, it depends on the apps you need to use to be productive
[06:08] <Denski> butcherbird; not yet...wait
[06:08] <Denski> sorry im a newbie here
[06:08] <tritium> cosimo321: most serious scientific/engineering applications run on *nix
[06:08] <tritium> not windows
[06:08] <cosimo321> Excactly, except, for recording, picture editing ONLY windows
[06:08] <rcdiugun> uhm, cosimo321... maybe you'd like to stop thrashing OSs here. It's not really the right room for you to do so...
[06:08] <Ronald> dooglus: thanks, i need uid 1001 for my user not 1000 (nfs shares)
[06:08] <stiletto> dooglus how do i update oopenoffice org?
[06:08] <cosimo321> Mac sucks no matter what you do
[06:08] <kennethlove> so when did windows replace Mac OS X as the defacto machine for video/image/sound editing? and linux as the defacto rendering engine for 3D?
[06:09] <stiletto> what i do to do this?
[06:09] <Hendric> Mac for Productivity. Linux for Development. Windows for Solitaire. you better use windows then...
[06:09] <butcherbird> Denski: w32codecs kind of a pain now to aptget maybe someone else here can tell you a repo to use
[06:09] <p0windah> cosimo321: my wife is a linguist and she will only use linux
[06:09] <cosimo321> About 3 years ago where have you been?
[06:09] <stiletto> how you do the update for openoffice?
[06:09] <nalioth> kennethlove: macs have long been used for video/audio/image editiong (pre OSX, even)
[06:09] <dooglus> Ronald: you can make a new user with 'adduser --uid 1001 username'
[06:09] <tritium> cosimo321: why don't you /join #ubuntu-offtopic, and continue your discussion there, please
[06:09] <stiletto> get-apt openoffice install
[06:09] <cosimo321> kennethlove doesn't like me i think
[06:09] <stiletto> is this how you do this?
[06:09] <_jason> !restricted
[06:09] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:09] <stiletto> hello?
[06:10] <p0windah> stiletto: it will be automatically updated when you update your system using synaptic
[06:10] <kennethlove> nalioth: yeah, i know. that is what i was saying.
[06:10] <stiletto> what is synaptic?
[06:10] <Ronald> dooglus: prolly, but i'm just going to mess around a bit to change the uid ;)
[06:10] <tritium> package management software, stiletto
[06:10] <kennethlove> stiletto: synaptic is a GUI package manager
[06:10] <cosimo321> tritium what is the problem?
[06:10] <tritium> cosimo321: it's offtopic
[06:10] <stiletto> is that add remove programs at top of my screen?
[06:10] <stiletto> little thing?
[06:10] <cosimo321> what is off topic? ubuntu?
[06:10] <dooglus> Ronald: use 'vipw' to edit /etc/passwd, and "chown -R" to change your file ownerships
[06:10] <kennethlove> stiletto: it is like it, yes.
[06:11] <Denski> im using hoary 5.04, i have totem.1.2.0.tar.gz, how can i install it? im new at linux
[06:11] <stiletto> ok thank you
[06:11] <dooglus> Ronald: I guess you'll need to edit /etc/shadow too
[06:11] <tritium> cosimo321: no, your OS wars flamebait, and you're annoying people
[06:11] <p0windah> Denski: why do you have that .tar.gz file ?
[06:11] <Ronald> dooglus: I know, and a pile of chown ;)
[06:11] <cosimo321> tritium the printed word is more often misinterpreted than not,
[06:12] <Denski> powindah...its a totem file....its not compatible with unbuntu????
[06:12] <cosimo321> anyway, does anyone know how to configure the wacom tools in ubuntu?
[06:12] <Denski> i would like to upgrade my totem
[06:12] <gearry> dooglus: I found it.  The package I need was gnome-volume-manager
[06:12] <dooglus> gearry: good!
[06:12] <Ubuntu_> !ndiswrapper
[06:12] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:12] <tritium> cosimo321: I'm not interested in arguing, I just ask that you please take it to -offtopic.  kthx
[06:12] <dooglus> gearry: and thanks for letting us know :)
[06:12] <_jason> !tell Denski about restricted
[06:12] <cosimo321> I have already stopped, tritium, why are you continuing this?
[06:12] <_jason> Denski:  that will tell you how to get w32codecs, is that what you wanted?
[06:13] <p0windah> cosimo321: cool, you made your point
[06:13] <Ubuntu_> !java
[06:13] <ubotu> I guess java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[06:13] <stiletto> ahh if i use the advance thingy it do the synaptic thing
[06:13] <stiletto> ahh
[06:13] <p0windah> cosimo321: so did you have a problem with ubuntu someone could help you with ?
[06:13] <gearry> I am new to ubuntu, but not linux
[06:13] <cosimo321> yes let me repeat it
[06:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Denski about w32codecs
[06:13] <cosimo321>  I wanted to know how to configure the wacom tools on breezy
[06:13] <cosimo321>  I have tried every site and forum all giving me things that I don't understand
[06:13] <p0windah> cosimo321: first thing, have you done a search on the ubuntuforums and google ?
[06:14] <stiletto> wow look at all these things in synaptics?
[06:14] <gearry> I just wanted a snazzy desktop to admin my debian boxes with ;)
[06:14] <kennethlove> gearry: if you've used debian before (or a debian-clone), you should not have any big problems.
[06:14] <cosimo321> I am fairly new at this and need a little more help than these forums provide
[06:14] <stiletto> i not even knowing of this.
[06:14] <kennethlove> stiletto: don't let it get to your head. you don't need half of them.
[06:14] <p0windah> stiletto: its all a big network of updates and software :)
[06:14] <dooglus> cosimo321: is the man page on xsetwacom any use?
[06:14] <rcdiugun> has anyone here tried to set up a PalmOS pda to sync with an app on ubuntu?
[06:14] <gearry> this is my test drive
[06:14] <gearry> I use jpilot on Debian
[06:14] <cosimo321> no nothing is of use as of yet. I was hoping one of you would know where to find a blow by blow configuring
[06:15] <gearry> I imagagine it would be pretty much the same on Ubuntu
[06:15] <dooglus> cosimo321: I don't have a wacom tablet
[06:15] <cosimo321> The driver is installed but needs to be configured
[06:15] <gearry> I have never really used any of the gnome-pilot stuff
[06:15] <cosimo321> I can't use a mouse, it's like using a rock
[06:15] <rcdiugun> gearry: how were you able to configure it? somehow I can't seem to make it see the zire72. But an older versioned palm (IIIxe) worked just fine.
[06:16] <gearry> rcdiugun: is your zire a usb device?
[06:16] <dooglus> cosimo321: rocks are ok, so long as you get optical ones
[06:16] <cosimo321> well I will go on with my search
[06:16] <rcdiugun> gearry: yup.
[06:16] <p0windah> cosimo321: I think this thread will sort you out. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151
[06:16] <cosimo321> and just to get at tritium XP RULES DOOD!
[06:16] <cosimo321> or DUDE!
[06:16] <dooglus> idiot
[06:16] <Denski> its a good think i found this chatroom coz im losing hope with linux....i hope i could learn more about linux with you guys
[06:16] <gearry> if so you probably need to press the sync button on the palm, wait a sec, and then press the sync button in jpilot
[06:17] <tritium> good for him
[06:17] <gearry> if that does not work, make sure you have all of the correct device modules loaded
[06:17] <kennethlove> Denski: linux is as easy as windows/mac os x. it just takes some time to learn.
[06:17] <FhaeTon> ok this time I got an error 2 Grub Loading...
[06:17] <rcdiugun> gearry: hmmm. okidoki. will try that again.
[06:17] <p0windah> Denski: just need to relearn some new computing metaphors
[06:18] <simone> hi
[06:18] <bartp> hi
[06:18] <tritium> FhaeTon: have you enabled LBA in your bios?
[06:18] <FhaeTon> LBA in bios?
[06:18] <Hendric> i love xp better.. specially its bluescreens...
[06:18] <simone> i speak italian and a little of english
[06:18] <tritium> yes, FhaeTon.  Please go into your bios settings, and check that
[06:18] <p0windah> simone: what do you need help with ?
[06:18] <kennethlove> Hendric: they shouldn't have been so sexist, though. where's the PSOD?
[06:18] <FhaeTon> Llogical block addressing
[06:19] <simone> with ubuntu bp 5.10 and ethernet
[06:19] <rcdiugun> kennethlove: heck, people should be glad that the os has GUI now. I used to do all my tasks using the command line on unix (and vi even!) 8 years back. Was a bit of a culture-shock for me... but I learned. :D
[06:19] <DrTiger> I just wasted another dvd-r because Ubuntu can't burn cds it can read -.-
[06:19] <mon> does spamrecognition in Evolution only work when spamassassin is installed?
[06:19] <FhaeTon> ok I will try that
[06:19] <Denski> thanks powindah and kennethlove, hope to learn from you guys
[06:19] <tritium> DrTiger: it can burn cds, silly
[06:19] <kennethlove> rcdiugun: a large chunk of my linux usage is still CLI. :)
[06:19] <DrTiger> yeah but I can't read any of them
[06:19] <p0windah> hehe
[06:19] <sig> lol @ DrTiger
[06:19] <davro> rcdiugun: still sounds good.
[06:20] <p0windah> no true vi user even changes....
[06:20] <sig> you can't burn cd's not ubuntu
[06:20] <p0windah> ever, rather
[06:20] <sig> don't blame
[06:20] <kennethlove> bah. fuck vi. :) emacs!
[06:20] <nalioth> kennethlove: watch your tongue, please
[06:20] <darkheart> Yeah emacs if you need an OS-wannabe to edit a text file...
[06:20] <tritium> please keep this channel work-safe
[06:20] <Nermal> DrTiger: enable dma on the drive ?
[06:20] <DrTiger> mount /media/cdrom0
[06:20] <DrTiger> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
[06:20] <DrTiger>        missing codepage or other error
[06:20] <DrTiger> how?
[06:20] <alessandro> hi
[06:20] <rcdiugun> kennethlove: yeah. have to admit, most linux stuff is easier for me using CLI... though yeah... emacs over vi! haha!
[06:20] <Nermal> hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc
[06:20] <Hendric> nano's better.. hehe
[06:21] <Nermal> with sudo
[06:21] <nalioth> DrTiger: please dont paste here
[06:21] <p0windah> what timezone have we just entered and all these users came from ?
[06:21] <Nermal> emacs is a great os, it just lacks a decent editor :P
[06:21] <DrTiger> how can I check whether dma is enabled or not?
[06:21] <Nermal> DrTiger: miss the 1 out
[06:21] <ScatterBrain> rcdiugun: vi rulez! ;-)
[06:21] <p0windah> london and frankfurt ?
[06:21] <tritium> DrTiger: also with hdparm
[06:21] <rcdiugun> SCatterBrain: only when emacs isn't installed. LOL!
[06:22] <ScatterBrain> rcdiugun: heh
[06:22] <Xk2c> bye
[06:22] <FhaeTon> where is the LBA located in Bios
[06:22] <alessandro> who from italy?
[06:22] <tritium> FhaeTon: that depends on your hardware
[06:22] <insta> Anyone have advice on getting IE to run under Kubuntu Breezy?  I need it for a developer machine, to check if the CSS renders properly.
[06:22] <davro> who cares for the editors wars, but i do wonder about all these guis, the command line is so much more versitle.
[06:22] <tritium> insta: wine and winetools from winehq.com
[06:22] <p0windah> insta: quickest and easiest way is using cxoffice
[06:23] <tritium> insta: winetools will hold your hand installing IE
[06:23] <insta> Is that free?
[06:23] <p0windah> the winetools are free, yes
[06:23] <Hendric> winetools' better.. and free
[06:23] <p0windah> cxoffice is not
[06:23] <DrTiger> how does dma affect the quality of the burnt cds?
[06:23] <rcdiugun> would you believe that when I first started using linux I got culture-shock again and was asking a colleague how to see the bash again? haha!
[06:24] <p0windah> rcdiugun: we wouldnt
[06:24] <DrTiger> at the moment there are no errors during burning... just when mounting (and unreadable by windows too)
[06:24] <Zeke1> is there a linux app that allows you to use windows programs?
[06:24] <Hendric> Zeke1, wine
[06:25] <DrTiger> zekel: try wine... but if you want windows programs, better stay with windows
[06:25] <alessandro> why drtiger?
[06:25] <mcphail> Is anyone using PCIe graphics cards with success?
[06:25] <FhaeTon> can't find an LBA in my Phoenix - AwardBios cmos
[06:25] <Zeke1> Hendric, is it any good?
[06:25] <insta> Is the package name 'winetools' ?
[06:26] <alessandro> is there games for linux?
[06:26] <DrTiger> at least for me it is usually easier to use windows progams in windows than in linux
[06:26] <Hendric> Zeke1, yes and use winetools
[06:26] <rcdiugun> p0windah: :) well, i got so used to the command line from unix.
[06:26] <Zeke1> Hendric, whats wine tools
[06:26] <rcdiugun> alessandro: yup. there are games for linux.
[06:26] <FhaeTon> maybe if I knew what an LBA was I could find it.
[06:27] <Hendric> Zeke1, GUI for wine
[06:27] <rcdiugun> alessandro: one of which I'm playing right now (battle of wesnoth)
[06:27] <tritium> FhaeTon: logical block addressing
[06:27] <tritium> Zeke1: it also helps you configure wine easily
[06:27] <Zeke1> Hendric, i see there is xwine as well is that better than just wine
[06:27] <Hendric> Zeke1, winex?
[06:27] <alessandro> rcdiugun: where have you download it ?
[06:28] <rcdiugun> alessandro: www.wesnoth.org
[06:28] <alessandro> is it free?
[06:28] <Zeke1> Hendric, no i think its xwine
[06:28] <ryanpg> hi all... I'm getting ready to setup ubuntu as a samba file server for about 30 OSX machines... any howto's around I could look at?
[06:28] <rcdiugun> alessandro: yup! Free. Open Source.
[06:28] <Hendric> Zeke1, never tried it.. winex is wine + directx
[06:28] <nalioth> ryanpg: OSX uses NFS, not samba
[06:28] <Zeke1> Hendric, i cant find winetools in synaptic either
[06:29] <ryanpg> nalioth, osx has samba support
[06:29] <tritium> Zeke1: winehq.com
[06:29] <alessandro> it's so horrible!!!
[06:29] <nalioth> ryanpg: NFS is native to OSX, samba is not
[06:29] <Zeke1> tritium, ok cool thanx
[06:29] <ryanpg> nalioth, ok... what are you suggesting?
[06:29] <alessandro> the worth copy of age of empires
[06:30] <nalioth> ryanpg: use NFS with your OSX machines. samba for windows machines
[06:30] <JustinHH> after i compiled a program, how can i start it?
[06:30] <p0windah> ./binary_name
[06:30] <rcdiugun> alessandro: aah! Well <shrug> to each his own i guess. You can check out other free games here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_game_software.  Though I wouldn't know which are linux based from there.
[06:31] <ryanpg> nalioth, well performance isn't a big issue, ease of setup and "hands free" maintanence is a priority... isn't samba a better fit?
[06:31] <Hendric> OMG.. my update stalled while installing python2.4-examples if i cancel this.. should it start from the beggining? its a 299MB update all in all
[06:31] <p0windah> Hendric: the .deb files are cached
[06:31] <nalioth> ryanpg: why are you not using apples proprietary protocols?
[06:31] <nalioth> ryanpg: nfs is many years ahead of samba in those things
[06:31] <ryanpg> nalioth, because my server is a linux box
[06:32] <nalioth> ryanpg: then use NFS. it is stable and proven in enterprise environments
[06:32] <kennethlove> how do you mount an NFS share in OS X?
[06:32] <Hendric> last question before i leave.. how can i break the 32kbps file transfer rate of NFS??
[06:32] <nalioth> kennethlove: visit bresink.de
[06:32] <p0windah> Hendric: no such limit exists
[06:33] <Hendric> if i transfer friles from one pc to another... the maximum speed is only 32k
[06:33] <kennethlove> nalioth: thanks.
[06:33] <DrTiger> activating dma does not resolve the issue
[06:33] <nalioth> kennethlove: NFS on OSX is a little different than on other unixes, b/c of netinfo
[06:33] <DrTiger> the burned dvd is still recognized as "raw dvd"
[06:33] <kennethlove> nalioth: yeah, i think i've heard that before.
[06:34] <ryanpg> nfs looks quite hard to setup https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo
[06:34] <DrTiger> the nice thing is, I have been able to burn isos I downloaded (e.g. somebody else created the image)
[06:35] <nalioth> ryanpg: it's not any more diffecult than samba
[06:35] <Hendric> OMG!!! it didn't stalled.. there was a confirmation box behind. sadly i killed synaptic... :(
[06:35] <DrTiger> yep
[06:35] <windex> DrTiger, did you close the disc? some dvd burners have issues reading discs they burn if you don't close them.
[06:35] <DrTiger> I don't even know how to close a disk in nautilus burner
[06:35] <evian> anyone use eclipse? it seems like the recent SWT upgrade deb is broken?
[06:36] <windex> DrTiger, me neither. :) never tried.
[06:36] <DrTiger> and it should read the dvds it created
[06:36] <kennethlove> so does installing nfs on ubuntu not set up auto-discovery?
[06:37] <windex> DrTiger, did you try ejecting it and putting it back in?
[06:37] <p0windah> nfs doesnt work that way
[06:37] <DrTiger> yes of course
[06:37] <windex> DrTiger, k, i'm out of suggestions. :) every time i try to use nautilus burner i get a kernel panic.
[06:37] <mcphail> Is anyone using PCIe? I'm about to buy a new box, and don't want to make a foolish purchase.
[06:37] <johngla> hi!
[06:37] <DrTiger> oh
[06:38] <DrTiger> well linux isn't ready for my laptop obviously -.-
[06:38] <sepmike> mcphail:  I have a friend who uses PCIe
[06:38] <p0windah> mcphail: try the forums, you'll get better exposure
[06:38] <johngla> i saw the option "Erase entire disk and use LVM" in the installer. what is LVM?
[06:38] <windex> logical volume management, it's commonly used for software raid
[06:38] <DrTiger> I will try and create isos manually some time, and see if they can be burnt to disc
[06:38] <johngla> ok
[06:38] <johngla> thanks :D
[06:38] <nalioth> windex: linux volume manager
[06:38] <mcphail> sepmike: any problems?
[06:38] <p0windah> anyone here tried luminocity in ubuntu ?
[06:38] <mcphail> p0windah: thanks
[06:38] <tritium> *logical
[06:38] <sepmike> mcphail: nope
[06:38] <windex> nalioth, it used to be logical volume manager.
[06:39] <p0windah> I've only read good things.. but too scared to try myself :)
[06:39] <johngla> p0windah: yes
[06:39] <sepmike> mcphail:tho what are you going to be using the computer for
[06:39] <johngla> it only runs in a window btw ;)
[06:39] <windex> nalioth, i think it is, actually. because it's a shared technology between Linux and AIX, and IBM donated large portions of it
[06:39] <mcphail> sepmike: my main desktop.
[06:39] <p0windah> johngla: ah ok, what was your experience like ?
[06:39] <windex> nalioth, pfft. :D
[06:39] <DrTiger> but it is really embarrassing when somebody asks me to burn them a cd and I have to say "Ubuntu can't use my cd burner"
[06:39] <sepmike> mcphail: I mean games etc
[06:39] <nalioth> windex: no sleep does it to ya
[06:39] <johngla> p0windah: well, it ran fine, but i couldn't really use it for much ;)
[06:39] <windex> DrTiger, have you tried using another cd burning app?
[06:40] <mcphail> sepmike: games not really an issue, but would like to play around with Blender etc
[06:40] <sepmike> mcphail: just that I'm not the one to ask about how far the support is
[06:40] <johngla> cool effects though :p
[06:40] <sepmike> mcphail: I just know it runs
[06:40] <DrTiger> kburn
[06:40] <JustinHH> how can i stop it?
[06:40] <evian> DrTiger: tell them your burner is broken :)
[06:40] <JustinHH> how can i stop a program from the terminal?
[06:40] <p0windah> johngla: have you see the videos with it running at the window manager and client windows "wobbling" ?
[06:40] <DrTiger> k3b
[06:40] <p0windah> johngla: thats what really caught my attention
[06:40] <johngla> p0windah: ye
[06:40] <Answer> Blame it on the hardware!
[06:40] <johngla> *yes
[06:40] <johngla> hehe
[06:40] <DrTiger> nero works, but under windows
[06:40] <mcphail> sepmike: thanks
[06:40] <DrTiger> the hardware is only a month old and it never worked under linux before
[06:41] <windex> DrTiger, if you have nero for windows, i think nero has a linux version. :P
[06:41] <windex> DrTiger, but it requires you own a windows-based copy.
[06:42] <DrTiger> I'd guess it's more of a linux-kernel problem
[06:42] <DrTiger> or some comunication internally
[06:42] <p0windah> something to do with linux... at any rate
[06:42] <windex> DrTiger, hey, if you eject the dvd, does nautilus still say its inserted?
[06:42] <JustinHH> how can i stop running a program from the terminal?
[06:42] <DrTiger> if I eject it, the window closes
[06:42] <windex> DrTiger, because that's what happens to me when i try to use my burner, and the only way to fix it is to reboot. i always wrote it off as a fact of life with the USB cd-rw, though.
[06:42] <p0windah> JustinHH: killall firefox
[06:43] <windex> DrTiger, k. nevermind then
[06:43] <JustinHH> thx
[06:43] <p0windah> JustinHH: type "ps aux" to list process names and other info
[06:43] <JustinHH> killall is ok
[06:43] <JustinHH> ;)
[06:43] <Denski> sir i have ymessenger1.0.4. can i install it other than GAIM?
[06:44] <Denski> ymessenger is .deb
[06:44] <Hendric> just installed xfce ... how can i use it??
[06:44] <p0windah> Denski: is it in synaptic ?
[06:44] <Hendric> it doesn't appear on the sessions..
[06:44] <ompaul> Denski, it is suggested that you should not, it is suggested that it is broken
[06:44] <p0windah> ompaul has a cunning ability to sound like a bot
[06:44] <Denski> yea i tried to install it but wont work...so i guess its broken. thanks
[06:44] <tritium> p0windah: no, it's not in the repos
[06:44] <Schteen> Hmm, I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop, but it freezes whenever I try logging in, anyone have any idea what's causing it? :s
[06:45] <tritium> Denski: you tried installing it with dpkg -i ?
[06:45] <Denski> ka
[06:45] <ubuntu_adiktus> yehey Im finish
[06:45] <tritium> Is that a yes, Denski ?
[06:45] <Hendric> tritium, how can i use xfce rather than gnome..
[06:45] <ubuntu_adiktus> where can I download yahoo messenger installer for ubuntu
[06:46] <Denski> tritium, yes i already dpgk it.....it doesnt work....
[06:46] <tritium> Denski: what error do you get?
[06:46] <tritium> Hendric: did you install it?
[06:46] <tritium> !xfce
[06:46] <ubotu> I heard xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4". http://www.xfce.org/
[06:47] <Hendric> apt-get install xfce
[06:47] <Denski> it said, try apt-get -f to install the problem
[06:47] <Denski> to fix
[06:47] <Hendric> OMG.. i forgot the the 4
[06:47] <Hendric> does it matter?
[06:47] <tritium> ubuntu_adiktus: most people use gaim instead
[06:47] <tritium> yes, Hendric
[06:47] <Hendric> kk
[06:48] <Denski> does anyone have a deb. file of gaim 1.5.????
[06:48] <Hendric> tritium, well after installing it.. how can i make ubuntu use it rather than gnome?
[06:49] <Hendric> Denski, use synaptics
[06:49] <ompaul> Denski, tjhat is not how you deal with a distro, what you do is 'sudo apt-get install gaim' and it gives you the version for your system
[06:49] <p0windah> startx /usr/bin/xfce (assuming thats the binary name and where its located)
[06:49] <tritium> Hendric: I've not used it, so I don't know if it adds a session you can choose from gdm/kdm or not.  Try reading the docs in /usr/share/doc/xfce4
[06:49] <p0windah> Hendric: but I'm sure all this is in the docs
[06:49] <Hendric> tritium, kk.
[06:50] <Denski> ok thanks, ill try it
[06:50] <tritium> Hendric: if it doesn't add a session, you may want to edit your ~/.xinitrc.  The docs should say something
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 even if I put the window XP cd in and change the boot sequence
 it will just bring me to ubuntu
[06:50] <tritium> Denski: gaim is installed by default
[06:50] <Carwash> sorry fot the paste, just dont wanna type it up again
[06:50] <Denski> it said, its the newest version
[06:50] <ubuntu_adiktus> where can i download yahoo messenger that works in ubuntu
[06:51] <tritium> Denski: as it should
[06:51] <FhaeTon> well I can't find anything relating to the LBA in my Bios?
[06:51] <Denski> does synaptics upgrade all the softwares in ubuntu?
[06:51] <p0windah> FhaeTon: it will be associated with your HDD's
[06:51] <tritium> ubuntu_adiktus: as I said, most people use gaim.  yahoo messenger for linux isn't very good
[06:51] <Denski> i mean does it automatically updates the softwares...like openoffice????
[06:51] <tritium> Denski: if there's an update
[06:52] <Aragorn_Guardian> ubuntu has something like stable / unstable / testing?
[06:52] <p0windah> Denski: if you only install stuff from syntaptic and the standard network repositories, yes
[06:52] <tritium> Denski: after a stable release, the only updates are for security issues
[06:53] <p0windah> Denski: your entire machine and every piece of software(kernel included) can/will be updated
[06:53] <tritium> Aragorn_Guardian: there is a stable release, and one in development
[06:53] <p0windah> Denski: you only run into problems when you start installing software that is not part of synaptic
[06:53] <Denski> i see
[06:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> tritium:  but not testing, is that?
[06:54] <tritium> just the two, Aragorn_Guardian
[06:54] <Denski> thanks for the enlightenment sirs
[06:54] <p0windah> Denski: have you used firefox in windows before ?
[06:54] <Aragorn_Guardian> tritium:  nice...
[06:54] <Denski> yes, i use firefox powindah
[06:54] <p0windah> Denski: ever noticed it sometimes have security updates from time to time ?
[06:54] <tritium> Aragorn_Guardian: the current development release will be released as stable on Oct. 13
[06:54] <Denski> not really...havent notice it
[06:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> is coming... 8)
[06:55] <p0windah> you should :)
[06:55] <FhaeTon> ok I give up on the LBA in Bios I don't think this one has it.
[06:55] <Denski> i installed fasterfox on my firefox....is it good?
[06:55] <tritium> Denski: you've never seen a little red icon in your notification area?
[06:56] <Denski> is the notification area located at the taskbar?
[06:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> someone is using ubuntu in a server? i, for a while, prefered debian for server, but...about ubuntu? is possible run the server safely?
[06:56] <Hendric> FhaeTon, every bios has it i think
[06:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> i see server option in install
[06:56] <tritium> Aragorn_Guardian: it's roughly the same as debian w.r.t. setting up services
[06:56] <FhaeTon> I'm using a fairly new board
[06:57] <FhaeTon> ASUS SLI Premium
[06:57] <ompaul> Aragorn_Guardian, as safe a Debian give or take an angstrom
[06:57] <tritium> Aragorn_Guardian: server install is the bare minimum.  No desktop env., etc.  It's up to you to install what you want, including services such as openssh-server.
[06:57] <FhaeTon> Is it posible I may need a bios update?
[06:57] <Denski> do you guys have antivirus on your linux? :D
[06:57] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...
[06:57] <Hendric> FhaeTon, go to your bios then find the part where you can see your hardrives...
[06:57] <nalioth> Denski: there is no need for AV on linux
[06:57] <ompaul> Denski, for what?
[06:58] <Hendric> FhaeTon, it should give you options like LBA, etc..
[06:58] <ubuntu_adiktus> hendric where can i download yahoo messenger that works in ubuntu
[06:58] <FhaeTon> i can see a harddrive in the boot section
[06:58] <tritium> ubuntu_adiktus: have you not seen my messages in reply to that?
[06:58] <ompaul> ubuntu_adiktus, use gaim it is part of the base install
[06:58] <ubuntu_adiktus> nope
[06:58] <Denski> i saw on ubuntu website that you can download AV for server...just wondrin....coz the reason i switch linux is because of that and knowledge
[06:59] <tritium> ubuntu_adiktus: how can you miss all of them?
[06:59] <ubuntu_adiktus> gaim
[06:59] <nalioth> Denski: there are no known viruses detrimental to linux
[06:59] <Denski> i've been using linux for 4days :D
[06:59] <p0windah> Denski: http://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=delete.9.jpg
[06:59] <ubuntu_adiktus> because im in the ubuntu desktop at that time hihihi
[06:59] <ubuntu_adiktus> im using 2 computers
[06:59] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, there is one in messenger.yahoo.com but ubuntu doesn't like it... gaim is ok.. but for your clients who only know YM.. use crossover then install YM version 5 and lower.
[06:59] <ompaul> Denski, you install av software if you are providing mail services for windows clients, but Linux to Linux not needed
[06:59] <p0windah> Denski: in the very top right hand corner, see the green circle with an arrow ? if you see the green or red, it means there is an update for firefox and you should click on it
[07:00] <ubuntu_adiktus> where can i download cross over sir
[07:00] <Denski> ok thanks powindah for the info...there's no green or red arrow at this moment...
[07:00] <Answer> Anybody know how to make a .tgz in windows?
[07:00] <tritium> ubuntu_adiktus: I believe that's not free software
[07:00] <Hendric> OMG.. xfce is so fast that i didn't even see it load..
[07:01] <FhaeTon> ok in the Main bios area it has Primary mas/slav secondarymas/ slav and 1,2,3,4 sata master but no drive shows.
[07:01] <p0windah> Answer: google for "ultimate zip"
[07:01] <Answer> p0windah: I have gnu gzip?
[07:01] <FhaeTon> in the boot section it show 1 HD scsI-0
[07:02] <p0windah> Answer: its a gui for windows that supports multiple archive formats, .tgz included
[07:02] <FhaeTon> I have my SATA drive set up in RAID0
[07:02] <p0windah> why ?
[07:02] <Answer> p0windah: Do you know if it supports command line integration (with WinSCP for example)
[07:02] <p0windah> Answer: that, I'm not sure
[07:03] <Shinjan> hi folks
[07:03] <p0windah> hi mary
[07:03] <egoleo> hello shinjan
[07:03] <Denski> i networked 2 pcs, one ubuntu laptop and 1 windows 2000, i tried to share my cd drive of my laptop, but i cant see it in my windows computer
[07:03] <FhaeTon> brb restroom calling
[07:03] <Denski> i have samba installed on my laptop linux ubuntu
[07:04] <Denski> i connect it using a crossover cable
[07:04] <tritium> FhaeTon: good luck
[07:04] <DNAku-san> hi
[07:05] <spektr> my external firewire drives suddenly stopped working on my kubuntu hoary machine (nothing in /var/log/messages when I plug the drive in). usb1 hotplug is still working. is anybody else experiencing firewire troubles? (I did a full update last friday, maybe the kernel update or some other package is the cause)
[07:05] <p0windah> spektr: did you reboot after kernel update ?
[07:05] <DNAku-san> I'm installing the  ubuntu breezy preview on my external hard drive on my ibook
[07:05] <DNAku-san> and it gives an error while installing yaboot
[07:05] <spektr> p0windah: yes, several times since friday
[07:06] <DNAku-san>  The installation of the yaboot boot loader failed
[07:06] <DNAku-san>  Warning: Your system may be unbootable!
[07:06] <DNAku-san> tried it twice
[07:06] <ProN00b> owned, DNAku-san
[07:06] <tritium> nalioth: does that sound like that yaboot bug you mentioned to me?
[07:07] <nalioth> DNAku-san: what hardware ?
[07:07] <DNAku-san> ibook G4, external firefire hard drive
[07:07] <DNAku-san> *firewire
[07:08] <nalioth> DNAku-san: you will not lose bootability. you can always hold the alt-option key to boot to OSX
[07:08] <DNAku-san> and how can I boot ubuntu
[07:09] <nalioth> DNAku-san: you can also use the alt-option key to boot to linux, and attempt repair of your yaboot
[07:09] <davro> Denski: After you changed your samba config, did you restart the samba smb demon
[07:09] <DNAku-san> do you have any idea why it might not be able to install?
[07:09] <Denski> davro: nope how do i restart it?
[07:10] <nalioth> DNAku-san: did you choose automated partitioning?
[07:10] <davro> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[07:10] <B_166-ER-X> what are the letters we should put after the 'TAR' command ? to untar
[07:10] <DNAku-san> yes and no, I chose it, but edited it somewhat
[07:10] <davro> tar -xvf extract
[07:10] <egoleo> -xvf
[07:10] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[07:11] <nalioth> DNAku-san: did you create a 1mb 'new world bootstrap' partition?
[07:11] <eleanor`> hey, can anyone please tell me how to configure a PCMCIA wireless card (3com btw) for WPA?
[07:11] <DNAku-san> is that created automatcily? if not, no, I didn't create it
[07:11] <Denski> davro: thanks will try it tomorrow
[07:11] <stiletto> what is acfax? i see that in synaptic
[07:11] <stiletto> is that for faxing?
[07:12] <nalioth> DNAku-san: check for it's presence. in a terminal, type "sudo fdisk -l"
[07:12] <tritium> stiletto: view the package details, or sun "apt-cache show acfax"
[07:12] <davro> From what i remeber of samba, every time i change the /etc/sambasmb.conf i had to restart the demon for changes to have affect, sure there is another way.
[07:13] <scorpix_> i can't upgrade/run firefox in Hoary, i got this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GdZXha42.htm , how can i fix it?
[07:13] <Laxaa> I need help with a wireless network
[07:13] <Hendric2> bwahehehe
[07:14] <org__> hi all, I got some problem in my resources.list and my apt-get doesnt work well, can someone help me
[07:14] <Hendric2> XFCE is as fast as the bullet train.. lolx
[07:14] <Denski> may tagalog ba dito?
[07:14] <Hendric> yeah!
[07:14] <Hendric2> tagalogin mo Denski
[07:14] <org__> when i do apt-get update, it gives me alot of 505 files not found, and errors.
[07:14] <dooglus> is it possible to get mplayer to show localised fonts when showing subtitles?
[07:15] <Denski> hehehe hendric
[07:15] <dooglus> like when the subtitle has an r with a 'v' over it, I see an upsidedown questionmark instead.
[07:15] <Denski> meron pala dito. kala ko ako lang pinoyski
[07:15] <Laxaa> Is there any drivers for the DWL-G122 out there?
[07:15] <Hendric2> lolx.. andito ka kasi takot ka sa raid right?
[07:15] <nalioth> tagalog in #ubuntu-ph, english in here, please
[07:15] <tritium> This is an English channel, fokls
[07:16] <dooglus> or any other movie player would do.  do any of them support foreign lanuage subtitles?
[07:16] <tritium> folks, even
[07:16] <LeeColleton> tritium: isn'
[07:16] <Denski> huh??? you mean...theres a pinoy ubuntu???
[07:16] <Denski> cool dude
[07:16] <org__> http://pastebin.com/381749
[07:16] <tritium> LeeColleton: what?
[07:16] <org__> those the last few lines
[07:16] <Denski> sorry tritium
[07:16] <LeeColleton> tritium: isn't that funny, why isn't this ubuntu-en ?
[07:16] <org__> pls someone check them..
[07:16] <tritium> Denski: no need to apologize :)
[07:16] <stiletto> kaudiocreater if i install this it want to remove all this other things is this what i wanting to do?
[07:17] <Laxaa> ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/
[07:17] <Laxaa> Thoes that one work?
[07:17] <Laxaa> *Does
[07:17] <org__> Please people, someone can give me little assistance?
[07:17] <LeeColleton> I guess for the same reason English is the default language of the Internet
[07:18] <dallas_> how do I do a recursive search of my hard drive?
[07:18] <tritium> LeeColleton: probably
[07:18] <darkheart> dallas_ find will do it.
[07:18] <ScatterBrain> org__: What seems to be your problem?
[07:18] <darkheart> dallas_ 'find /|grep something'
[07:18] <ScatterBrain> org__: I don't know that I can help, but I'll help if I can.
[07:18] <p0windah> Hendric2: check this out http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog//xshots
[07:18] <FhaeTon> hey back
[07:18] <DNAku-san> nalioth, I rebooted back to OS X and did a fdisk -l, but ti says it's an ilegal option :/
[07:18] <FhaeTon> sheese
[07:18] <tritium> use sudo, DNAku-san
[07:18] <FhaeTon> I got to get this shit running
[07:19] <p0windah> Hendric2: its coming to ubuntu(when its done tm)
[07:19] <nalioth> DNAku-san: it is not illegal in ubuntu
[07:19] <org__> ScatterBrain, hi, my problem is the "apt-get doesnt find everything i try to install" then i edit the sources.list and do exactly what some sites recommend me to do, and i change the sources.list alot of times, but now everytime i do "apt-get update" i get errors
[07:19] <tritium> wath the language, please, FhaeTon
[07:19] <nalioth> DNAku-san: do you have a ppc livecd?
[07:19] <Laxaa> Help?
[07:19] <FhaeTon> oh sorry
[07:19] <DNAku-san> nalioth, yes I have the ppc livecd
[07:19] <FhaeTon> I meant crap
[07:19] <org__> ScatterBrain, i've got alot of sources.list and i changed it alot, and still doesn't work
[07:19] <FhaeTon> crap
[07:19] <tritium> watch the spelling please, tritium :)
[07:19] <dallas_> darkheart, okay now how do I output that to a file?
[07:19] <eleanor`> hey, can anyone please tell me how to configure a wireless card for WPA?
[07:20] <Denski> thanks for the info sir's
[07:20] <org__> ScatterBrain, before my apt-get doesn't find alot of things, and now it gives me errors when i try to install anything
[07:20] <Denski> gotta go
[07:20] <ScatterBrain> org__: First, what does your sourcs.list file look like.  (Please use the pastebin)
[07:20] <GDorn> anyone else have a geforce 6600 and have suggestions for xorg.conf?
[07:20] <Denski> nex time!
[07:20] <FhaeTon> what allows my HDs to be seen by the software?
[07:20] <FhaeTon> or the bios
[07:20] <tritium> !tell GDorn about nvidia
[07:20] <Hendric2> p0windah, so what's that for?
[07:20] <darkheart> dallas_ Redirect... 'find /|grep something > results.txt'
[07:20] <org__> ScatterBrain, you want the now sources.list file? becuz i used alot of sources.list from guys in forums.. let me paste this one
[07:20] <p0windah> Hendric2: 3d accelerated desktop, you mentioned you liked the speed fo xfce
[07:20] <tritium> org__: don't paste here please
[07:21] <p0windah> Hendric2: check out the videos, mind blowing
[07:21] <ScatterBrain> tritium: I told him/her to use the pastbin.
[07:21] <org__> tritium, ofcourse
[07:21] <tritium> ScatterBrain: :)
[07:21] <davro> org_: Is the CDROM still in the apt sources, without the cd in the drive that might though some errs
[07:21] <org__> ScatterBrain, here it is, http://pastebin.com/381754
[07:21] <Laxaa> I've got a WLAN UDB adapter, but it wont work without a third party driver, so I wondered if this was okay: ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/
[07:21] <tritium> cool, org__ :)
[07:21] <org__> and the errors when i do "apt-get updates" are here...
[07:21] <GDorn> tritium:  is the packaged version of nvidia-glx as recent as nvidia's own release?
[07:21] <tritium> Laxaa: there are ubuntu packages of wlan-ng
[07:21] <org__> http://pastebin.com/381749
[07:21] <org__> see
[07:21] <Hendric2> p0windah, can that help this 32MB Pentium 166 with 1MB cirrus logic integrated video card? :p
[07:21] <org__> tritium :)
[07:21] <stiletto> are kde and gnome enemies or something? it wants to remove gnome when install kde things.
[07:22] <Laxaa> tritium: Where?
[07:22] <Versed> lol
[07:22] <tritium> GDorn: perhaps not, but it's still preferable to use ubuntu packages
[07:22] <tritium> Laxaa: try apt-cache search wlan-ng
[07:22] <Answer> p0windah: Thanks for UltimateZip
[07:22] <Laxaa> In the terminal?
[07:22] <Versed> stiletto I have both desktops, but use gnome mostly
[07:22] <FhaeTon> should I use HDD SMART MONITORING?
[07:22] <GDorn> tritium: with renderaccel off, though, screen updates are painfully slow.  whenever I task-switch, there's a very clear pause while the window repaints.
[07:23] <p0windah> Answer: np
[07:23] <Laxaa> I'm a n00b....i just installed the system
[07:23] <tritium> Laxaa: yes.  Are you sure you need those, though?  Which wireless card do you have?
[07:23] <davro> org__ comment out the apt CDROM line if it not being used.
[07:23] <nalioth> FhaeTon: easy on the caps, mister
[07:23] <Laxaa> D-Link DWL-G122
[07:23] <FhaeTon> eh
[07:23] <moZer> what would be the preferred way to change the order of the sound cards as alsa devices? i have two cards, but the wrong one is the default alsa device
[07:23] <Shin_Gouki> hi, i got kinda serious apt-get problem: 1. i have NO internet 2.we i type: "apt-get install build essentials" i get 2 warnings: couldn, read stat package from http...." i need to turn of this, how?
[07:23] <FhaeTon> I was just listing as it looks
[07:23] <ScatterBrain> org__: Yours looks just like mine (except you aren't using the 'multiverse' repository - not a problem).
[07:23] <gearry> dooglus: I'm back.  It looks like my CD and floppy automount, but not USB devices
[07:23] <gearry> not sure why
[07:23] <ScatterBrain> org__: So what errors are you getting?
[07:23] <Gnuclear> can someone help me to verify the mp5 sum check from DOS command line?
[07:23] <org__> davro, can you give me good sources.list ??
[07:23] <FhaeTon> does caps do something to others screens?
[07:24] <org__> ScatterBrain, i give you the link of the errors
[07:24] <blekos> hellooo
[07:24] <james_> hi, for some reason my Ubuntu text etc is hard to read on browsers etc.. ??
[07:24] <tritium> GDorn: well, installing the drivers off nvidia's site is not recommended, but it's your machine ;)
[07:24] <gearry> just occurred to me to look at fstab to make sure that device is set for user
[07:24] <dooglus> gearry: I don't have any USB devices, so I don't know anything about this
[07:24] <Gnuclear> i've got the  ISO file and MD5 checksum file in the directory- what do i have to do next?
[07:24] <nalioth> Gnuclear: get this for use on the DOS command line http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[07:24] <blekos> which antivirus would recommend
[07:24] <blekos> i know i do not need one...but...
[07:24] <tritium> blekos: none
[07:24] <Shin_Gouki> naloith!
[07:24] <dooglus> blekos: I use 'linux' to defend against viruses
[07:24] <blekos> lol
[07:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell org__ about sources
[07:24] <Shin_Gouki> i need ur help :)
[07:24] <egoleo> aok
[07:24] <Shin_Gouki> naloith , i need ur help :)
[07:25] <nalioth> blekos: if you insist, use clamav
[07:25] <davro> org__: The error "Failed to fetch cdrom", comment out line 1 on your /etc/apt/source.list of place you Ubuntu CdRom into the drive
[07:25] <blekos> thnx
[07:25] <org__> davro, what do you think of this one?  www.freenode.net/faq.shtml
[07:25] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth ,  i got kinda serious apt-get problem: 1. i have NO internet 2.when i type: "apt-get install build essentials" i get 2 warnings: couldn, read stat package from http...." i need to turn of this, how?
[07:25] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: ask the channel your question. i'm not the only one here
[07:25] <blekos> it is not for incoming msgs
[07:25] <org__> davro, ops sorry, i mean this one http://pastebin.com/381761
[07:25] <blekos> or anything
[07:25] <org__> ScatterBrain, check this http://pastebin.com/381761
[07:25] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: that's not the package name, for one thing
[07:25] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: your 2nd problem is directly related to your 1st
[07:25] <ScatterBrain> org__: Here's my sources. http://pastebin.com/381763
[07:25] <Laxaa> tritium: D-Link DWL-G122
[07:25] <org__> do i have to do "apt-get dist-clean" first? before updating?
[07:25] <blekos> just a few i receive i want to know if i cant forward them or they are just viruses..
[07:25] <tritium> Laxaa: which chipset?
[07:25] <nalioth> org__: no you do not
[07:26] <blekos> u c there r ppl still using windows..!! ;)
[07:26] <Laxaa> Hmmm...wait a minute
[07:26] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth i need gcc to get my NIC workin , ...wwoooo funny?
[07:26] <org__> ScatterBrain, and you can download anything using apt-get?
[07:26] <davro> org__: look better the line is commented, now do an, apt-get update
[07:26] <dooglus> is it possible to make the subtitles bigger in totem-xine?
[07:26] <nalioth> blekos: that is admirable of you to scan your email b4 forwarding it
[07:26] <org__> ScatterBrain, i mean if you do that, does it work? apt-get install gaim-guifications
[07:26] <davro> org__: sudo apt-get update
[07:26] <hereservice> hallo
[07:26] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: build-essential should be on the install CD, but you have to spell it right
[07:26] <ScatterBrain> org__: pretty much.  I mean there are some "legal" issues with a few packages, but yeah it works.
[07:26] <org__> davro, why sudo?
[07:27] <blekos> :)
[07:27] <Shin_Gouki> i spelled: "apt-get install build essential" is that wrong?
[07:27] <org__> davro, you mean with my last sources.list that i paste?
[07:27] <[LethAL] > build-essential
[07:27] <dooglus> build_essential, Shin_Gouki
[07:27] <blekos> thnx
[07:27] <[LethAL] > no space
[07:27] <dooglus> ooh - a dash...
[07:27] <tritium> blekos: yeah, I can respect that, dude :)
[07:27] <davro> as you need su user permissions to use "apt"
[07:27] <blekos> ubuntu really rocks..
[07:27] <blekos> :)
[07:27] <blekos> thnk u guys
[07:27] <egoleo> yeah
[07:27] <ScatterBrain> org__: are you running "sudo apt-get install <packages>?
[07:27] <egoleo> is cool
[07:27] <nalioth> davro: ubuntu does not use "su", it uses "sudo"
[07:27] <egoleo> yeah
[07:27] <ScatterBrain> org__: or just apt-get install.
[07:28] <org__> ScatterBrain, apt-get install
[07:28] <Shin_Gouki> lethal idid so plz dont put it on spelling error it wasnt one !
[07:28] <Laxaa> tritum: I can't find it on their website
[07:28] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: build-essential
[07:28] <ScatterBrain> org__: Ah.
[07:28] <davro> nalioth: please read a previous comment, was trying to explain, dont know why i bother ????
[07:28] <org__> Err http://www.getsweaaa.com ./ Packages
[07:28] <org__>   404 Not Found
[07:28] <org__> ScatterBrain, why
[07:28] <Shin_Gouki> lethal its more like i need to turn off internet from the apt
[07:28] <org__> davro, see this is the first error. :)
[07:28] <nalioth> davro: explain properly please
[07:28] <ScatterBrain> org__: try "sudo apt-get update" and then give it your password.
[07:28] <virgule> Shall I jump on the Breezy bandwagon or lay low with Hoary for while?
[07:28] <GDorn> yeah, I am really liking ubuntu and there's a really good chance it will be my permanent non-gaming OS.  Are suggestions/etc from a recent, picky windows convert welcome somewhere they might prove useful?
[07:29] <org__> ScatterBrain, I'm in root now.
[07:29] <tritium> Laxaa: I'd need to know the chipset in order to advise you
[07:29] <Laxaa> Ok
[07:29] <Laxaa> I'll google it
[07:29] <ScatterBrain> org__: OK.  Ubuntu doens't use root by default.
[07:29] <Shin_Gouki> naloith , i tried to do the get updta it didnt work!!
[07:29] <davro> nalioth: get out my face explained enough !
[07:29] <Shin_Gouki> naloith , i tried to do the "apt-get update" it didnt work!!
[07:29] <org__> ScatterBrain, no i use "su"
[07:29] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: please don't turn off the internet.  I'm using it.
[07:29] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: you need internet
[07:29] <ompaul> the gentoo way != the rpm way != the way of debian != the way in ubuntu
[07:30] <Shin_Gouki> naloith , i tried to do the "apt-get update" it didnt work!! same error like on  the build essential thing..
[07:30] <org__> davro, something wrong :(
[07:30] <ompaul> for values of equal
[07:30] <ScatterBrain> org__: me too. ;-)
[07:30] <FhaeTon> If I have a 64bit system running SLI and Raid0 should I install the i386 or 64bit Ubuntu?
[07:30] <Laxaa> tritium: Ralink Technology 2500 series
[07:30] <org__> ScatterBrain, why i am having errors still?
[07:30] <Shin_Gouki> naloith , i told u i have no internet because i need GCC to compile the nick drivers..?
[07:30] <ScatterBrain> org__: try my sources.list and do apt-get update.
[07:30] <org__> ScatterBrain, maybe i need to clean up something first
[07:30] <org__> ScatterBrain, ok, wait.
[07:30] <Shin_Gouki> naloith , i found the nick drivers but its a c file , i have no gcc soo..?
[07:31] <[LethAL] > Laxaa, http://rt2400.sf.net (Yes, they have rt2500)
[07:31] <ScatterBrain> org__: If you get any errors paste them to pastbin, please.
[07:31] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: then you need to insert your cdrom and install "build-essentials"
[07:31] <jacques_> hello
[07:31] <tritium> wihtout an "s" at the end
[07:31] <org__> ScatterBrain, ok
[07:31] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth i did!
[07:31] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth heres error message i got:
[07:31] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth ,  i got kinda serious apt-get problem: 1. i have NO internet 2.when i type: "apt-get install build essentials" i get 2 warnings: couldn, read stat package from http...." i need to turn of this, how?
[07:31] <tritium> thanks for that URL, [LethAL] 
[07:31] <Laxaa> tritium: Thanks
[07:31] <[LethAL] > tritium, NP, I have a rt2570 :P
[07:32] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: it is spelled "build-essential"
[07:32] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: you need internet. or you need to find the gcc deb from the cd and install it
[07:32] <nalioth> tritium: he doesnt have internet
[07:32] <Shin_Gouki> tritium i speeld it tritgh! i got an net problem ^^
[07:32] <Shin_Gouki> right
[07:32] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: you keep spelling it wrong in here...
[07:32] <Shin_Gouki> dont focus on that
[07:32] <kennethlove> i'm not having any luck mounting an NFS share from ubuntu on my mac. anyone?
[07:32] <Shin_Gouki> plz
[07:33] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: fine, but do be aware that spelling/case are important
[07:33] <Laxaa> tritium: So i'll open the .rar archive in Ubuntu?
[07:33] <nalioth> kennethlove: did you get nfsmanager from bresink.de?
[07:33] <tritium> Laxaa: I'll defere to [LethAL] , if you don't mind.
[07:33] <Laxaa> Ok
[07:33] <tritium> defer even
[07:33] <[LethAL] > About what?
[07:33] <kennethlove> nalioth: yeah.
[07:33] <[LethAL] > Oh, is it your rt2500?
[07:33] <Shin_Gouki> thx tritium i would like more tips to the topic: what happens if i havce no net and "apt-get update" DONT WORK
[07:34] <[LethAL] > Um... get net
[07:34] <kennethlove> and i've read through the ubuntu wiki pages.
[07:34] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: as nalioth pointed out, some of the packages you need are on the CD
[07:34] <Whistler> can i use apt get while updating?
[07:35] <jjazz> Whistler, no, I don't believe you can.
[07:35] <kennethlove> Whistler: you can only have one apt-get process at a time.
[07:35] <wezzer> nope
[07:35] <Shin_Gouki> yes thx! but when i try to load them ( i inserted the disk!) it tells me: warning on apt-get: couldnt reat stat from http://
[07:35] <GDorn> whistler:  usually, it'll say no, that's locked
[07:35] <Whistler> k thx
[07:35] <org__> ScatterBrain, you still here?
[07:35] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: browse the cdrom for your gcc deb
[07:36] <Shin_Gouki> naloith, how do i do this? (command?
[07:36] <ScatterBrain> org: yes.
[07:36] <ScatterBrain> org__: yes.
[07:36] <org__> ScatterBrain, ok, It's updating.
[07:36] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: OR comment out all your web apt sources from your /etc/apt/sources.list (leaving only the cdrom line at the top)
[07:36] <ScatterBrain> org__: any errors yet?
[07:36] <Shin_Gouki> thx god THATs wehat im looking for!
[07:36] <Shin_Gouki> :)
[07:37] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth m im new to linux so ... thank you :)
[07:37] <dooglus> can someone please help me with getting readable subtitles in any movie player?
[07:37] <[LethAL] > Should've gone to Specsavers :D
[07:38] <drako\> i have a problem with my w-lan card.. ubuntu doesnt recognize my wlan card.. so i cant connect to the internet when i use ubuntu.. someone knoe where i can download linux drivers for the smcwpcit-g wlan card?
[07:38] <[LethAL] > drako\, try and find which chipset it is
[07:38] <DNAku-san> hi nalioth, I just tried sudo fdisk -l in ubuntulivecd, it gives a lot of @ 0 for 0, type=0x0
[07:39] <DNAku-san> till 16812: @ 0 for 0, type=0x0
[07:39] <DNAku-san> Segmentation fault
[07:39] <[LethAL] > DNAku-san, Seg faults are supposedly due to bad RAM
[07:39] <Laxaa> LethAl: So I'll just have to extrect the .rar archive in Ubuntu?
[07:39] <nalioth> DNAku-san: join me in ##apple   please
[07:40] <[LethAL] > Laxaa, rar archive? from where?
[07:40] <Laxaa> Gah....what does defer mean
[07:40] <Laxaa> *?
[07:40] <[LethAL] > TO change a path I think
[07:40] <danst> Hi, I just want to install a cisco vpn client and it asks me where my modules are installed... but the standard dir does not exist: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build
[07:40] <Laxaa> Ok
[07:40] <danst> where is it?
[07:40] <Laxaa> The WLAN driver was a .rar archive
[07:40] <FhaeTon> does ubuntu allow you to textually install?
[07:41] <tritium> danst: try vpnc
[07:41] <[LethAL] > Laxaa, From the rt2400 project? They're tar.gz files
[07:41] <kennethlove> nalioth: so is nfs manager your only bit of advice?
[07:42] <Laxaa> Its the rt2500
[07:42] <[LethAL] > I know
[07:42] <nalioth> kennethlove: with OSX, yes. netinfo mangler is not very unix standard
[07:42] <tritium> danst: otherwise, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` for what you're trying to do
[07:42] <[LethAL] > You probably want http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/rt2400/rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz?download
[07:42] <kennethlove> nalioth: yeah, but why don't any of the shares show up on it?
[07:42] <tritium> danst: but I recommend vpnc
[07:43] <Laxaa> Ooops...sorry...my mistake
[07:43] <nalioth> kennethlove: i have no clue. i'm not up on NFS usage, just it's purview
[07:43] <ScatterBrain> org__: You still working?
[07:43] <Laxaa> I was .tar
[07:43] <kennethlove> nalioth: ah. alright, thanks.
[07:43] <Carwash> Hello. I want to duel boot ubuntu and windowXP, but my laptop won't let me boot up windowXP CD even when I put the cd in and reboot it ... even when I change the sequence .. need help please :(
[07:43] <Laxaa> I misread it
[07:44] <[LethAL] > Laxaa, you'll need to do "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`" if you haven't allready
[07:44] <Laxaa> Ok.Im in Win now, so I haven't done it
[07:44] <soufiane> hi
[07:44] <tritium> Carwash: that's not an ubuntu issue.  Sounds like your bios settings are wrong, or don't work right.
[07:44] <[LethAL] > Laxaa, can you get the net in Ubuntu without it?
[07:45] <Laxaa> No, because the my wireless router wont act as a normal router
[07:45] <Carwash> tritium: I thought so. How do I update my BIO?
[07:45] <dallas_> how do I see what my ip address is?
[07:45] <[LethAL] > Laxaa, hoary or breezy?
[07:46] <culdude_rl> hoary
[07:46] <Laxaa> Breezy
[07:46] <culdude_rl> you?
[07:46] <culdude_rl> ok
[07:46] <culdude_rl> do u like it?
[07:46] <Laxaa> My roommate(Who uses Win XP) cant get the net via it too
[07:46] <culdude_rl> ok
[07:46] <benkong2> what's the best location for an .htpasswd file? I'm setting up a webserver squirrelmail etc.
[07:46] <Laxaa> So he has the LAN cable directly connected to his PC
[07:47] <kent> dallas_, Program->System tools -> Nettools (I think thats the english translation for it.)  It might depend on if you have it installed though..
[07:47] <Skid> colony 5 - offical rls, in 10 days.. like is that breezy stable?
[07:47] <kent> dallas_, otherwise (if you know how to) you can run ifconfig from a terminal
[07:47] <frogger> sever/ irc.emule-spain.org
[07:47] <frogger> hello
[07:48] <FhaeTon> Freogger
[07:48] <FhaeTon> frogger
[07:48] <[LethAL] > Laxaa, do you have 2 PC's?
[07:48] <FhaeTon> hey bud
[07:48] <frogger> disconnect
[07:48] <Laxaa> Accsess to, yes. Own, no.
[07:48] <[LethAL] > I mean can you use two now?
[07:48] <Laxaa> Yes
[07:49] <Laxaa> But my roommate doesnt hava mIRC
[07:49] <Laxaa> *have
[07:49] <[LethAL] > Oh
[07:49] <Laxaa> Or any other Irc clients
[07:49] <[LethAL] > Well... synaptic has rt2500 stuff, but that's no good yet
[07:49] <Laxaa> But I have the files on a USB flash disk
[07:50] <Laxaa> The driver files
[07:50] <[LethAL] > Laxaa, i386, AMD64 or PPC?
[07:50] <Laxaa> i386
[07:50] <Laxaa> Pentium 4
[07:50] <tritium> Carwash: depends on your computer
[07:50] <tritium> danst: any reply?
[07:51] <wesley> Hi everybody..I'm a newbie!
[07:51] <egoleo> ok wesly
[07:51] <tritium> welcome, wesley
[07:51] <wesley> thkz
[07:51] <wesley> so, i have just installed the ubuntu on my notebook!
[07:51] <wesley> I have a hp compaq nx6125
[07:51] <egoleo> ok
[07:51] <wesley> sempron 2.8 with 256mb
[07:51] <egoleo> and
[07:52] <wesley> ok?
[07:52] <[LethAL] > Laxaa, Can I query you? gGot a load of links for ye
[07:52] <Laxaa> Ok
[07:52] <wesley> but i can see that the ubuntu is so slow
[07:52] <FhaeTon> ok could my problem be that I need to upgrade the mobo bios first in order for the HD to be seen in Raid0?
[07:52] <wesley> i'd like to know if you have any secret or advice...
[07:52] <bob2> wesley: "so slow"?
[07:52] <bob2> wesley: e.g.?
[07:52] <wesley> slowly
[07:53] <wesley> with the low velocity
[07:53] <bob2> wesley: what a useful reply
[07:53] <pilgrim_executer> hello all! im having a little prob with X, without NVIDIA drivers i can get 1600x1200, with them it is not possible - any ideas?
[07:53] <egoleo> ok
[07:53] <wesley> the performance is so bad.
[07:53] <egoleo> wesley
[07:53] <Answer> wesley: buy faster hardware.  and more ram
[07:53] <bob2> wesley: perhaps you could elaborate on which bits you consider "slow"
[07:53] <ggeller> Is it possible to get a screen dump during the install?
[07:53] <tritium> wesley: velocity is not a proper term ;)
[07:53] <wesley> so.. but the sempn 2.8 is great??
[07:54] <bob2> ggeller: run it in qemu (don't think it's possible otherwise)
[07:54] <bob2> unless you do evilness involving /dev/fb0 or whatever
[07:54] <Mars_^> Is there anyone here who use PSI?
[07:54] <bob2> but I'm pretty sure they lock you up for that sort of thing
[07:54] <ggeller> bob2:  Thanks! qemu sounds good.
[07:54] <bob2> wesley: so, which bits do you think are slow?
[07:54] <ggeller> What do you mean by /dev/fb0?  A floppy disk drive?
[07:55] <org__> ScatterBrain, it works with no errors
[07:55] <org__> ScatterBrain, but the thing is, I couldn't make my gaim to flash :(
[07:55] <tgwj> the breezy preview has an ubuntu logo in the menu bar. where is this saved / set ? how do I  change it ?
[07:55] <[LethAL] > ggeller, That's a framebuffer, not a floppy
[07:55] <Mars_^> If someone is using PSI please help me. CAn you tall me what is write in your sound options, player box?
[07:55] <wesley> the gnome.. everything is so slow.. when i click on menu  i need to wait 5 secs to menu open
[07:55] <org__> wesley, its your pc :P
[07:56] <tritium> wesley: you don't have much RAM
[07:56] <bob2> ggeller: the framebuffer device
[07:56] <tgwj> wesley, xubuntu might be for you ;)
[07:56] <ScatterBrain> org__: What's the package that you're looking to install?  Maybe it's in multiverse.
[07:56] <Answer> wesley: type this into a terminal:  cat /proc/meminfo | grep -e "MemTotal" -e "MemFree"
[07:56] <org__> gaim-guifications
[07:56] <ggeller> OK. I'll try qemu.  Thanks again.
[07:56] <bob2> FhaeTon: "raid" on a motherboard is unlikely to actually be raid at all.  unless it's a server board.
[07:56] <org__> ScatterBrain, cuz i want it to flash whenever i recieve new msg, u know what i mean?
[07:56] <bob2> FhaeTon: if it's psuedo raid, just use linux software raid, or none at all
[07:56] <dooglus> can someone please help me with getting readable subtitles in any movie player?
[07:56] <FhaeTon> hmmm
[07:57] <wesley> so, and then the ubuntu is so hard...beause 256 in the W$ XP, i can run my programs so good..
[07:57] <FhaeTon> your saying don't setup a raid0 before installing
[07:57] <wesley> strange..
[07:57] <bob2> FhaeTon: I'm saying, if you need BIOS updates to stop linux seeing two drives, you don't actually have RAID
[07:57] <dooglus> org__: gaim-guificiations is in universe and works well for me in breezy
[07:57] <bob2> wesley: your skillful semi-trolling has defeated us all
[07:57] <ScatterBrain> org__: But what is the package name that let gaim do that?
[07:57] <org__> dooglus, and when you recieve msgs in gaim does it flash?
[07:57] <bob2> wesley: we shall all use windows, hitherforth!
[07:57] <FhaeTon> oooh
[07:57] <[LethAL] > gaim-guifications pwns, especially with the Ubuntu Human skin that was made for it
[07:58] <org__> ScatterBrain, i dont know, someone told me the one i gave you
[07:58] <FhaeTon> I c
[07:58] <HappyFool> hitherforth? izzat a real word? :P
[07:58] <FhaeTon> interesting
[07:58] <dooglus> org__: no flashing, no.  I see a 'toast' pop up in the corner
[07:58] <org__> lethal do u have screenshot of it?
[07:58] <wesley> so, i have to machines
[07:58] <Answer> wesley: You need more ram.  I'm sure it doesn't work any better in WindowsXP.
[07:58] <org__> dooglus, why? what is your WM
[07:58] <tritium> HappyFool: and "izzat"? ;)
[07:58] <ScatterBrain> org__: I don't remember seeing a package name.
[07:58] <FhaeTon> but I used the Ubuntu disc to configure software raid0
[07:58] <[LethAL] > No, I can't remember where I had got it before, but it's gone now as I don't use Human
[07:58] <org__> ScatterBrain, doesnt you gaim flashes whenever you recieve new msgs?
[07:58] <HappyFool> tritium: inconsistency is the hob-troll of miniature minds
[07:58] <dooglus> org__: metacity, the default
[07:58] <org__> dooglus, in gnome?
[07:59] <ScatterBrain> org__: no, it makes a noise.
[07:59] <Mars_^> Who is using PSI here?
[07:59] <FhaeTon> before that I used the Sicion raid0 3112
[07:59] <dooglus> org__: yes.
[07:59] <FhaeTon> something like that
[07:59] <org__> dooglus, ahha, but why it doesnt flash
[07:59] <org__> before it does
[07:59] <org__> it flashes white and black when i recieve any msg
[07:59] <Hendric> why can't i see other ubuntu PCs.. when i open "network servers"
[07:59] <tritium> HappyFool: who's being inconsistent?
[07:59] <Hendric> i can only see windows based PCs
[07:59] <HappyFool> tritium: just a joke, nm ;)
[08:00] <Gnuclear> Hi, am getting cyclic redundancy errors when i download the ISOs from http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/
[08:00] <bob2> Hendric: that window only shows SMB servers on your network
[08:00] <bob2> Hendric: if you want ubuntu machines to show up, install samba on them
[08:00] <org__> ScatterBrain, Thats weird.
[08:00] <bob2> Gnuclear: your ISP and/or OS is broken, try again
[08:00] <[LethAL] > Gnuclear, use the bittorrent download
[08:01] <Hendric> i did installed samba on them.. plus shared them using SMB option in "Shared FOlders"
[08:01] <Gnuclear> [LethAL]  - yeah doing that now
[08:01] <tritium> danst: ping
[08:01] <[LethAL] > pong!
[08:02] <zAo^> gnome-baker or ?
[08:02] <tritium> [LethAL] : that would be the proper response, but you're not danst
[08:02] <FhaeTon> I set up my SATA drives on my comp like this: 1 drive on primary set to master and 1 drive on secondary set to master. is this config bad?
[08:02] <[LethAL] > LD
[08:03] <[LethAL] > :D*
[08:03] <wesley> so, if i do an upgrade in my ram
[08:03] <wesley> do i need to set anything on linux.. ??
[08:03] <FhaeTon> my bios cannot see the drives
[08:03] <bob2> FhaeTon: that's fine
[08:03] <[LethAL] > wesley, not unless you go very high, I think it's over 1GB
[08:04] <bob2> even then it's fine
[08:04] <HappyFool> i think it might be 2 or 4 GB
[08:04] <wesley> so, do you think with 512mb the ubuntu can run cool?
[08:04] <Mars__^> Is there anyone here who is using PSI?
[08:04] <HappyFool> i'm running with 512MB
[08:04] <Mars__^> wesley, me to
[08:05] <kennethlove> even running gnome and/or kde
[08:05] <org__> i can't install *.rpm files in ubuntu?
[08:05] <bob2> gnome in 128MB is kinda painful
[08:05] <bipolar> wesley, I've got a few ubuntu machines running with less then 256.
[08:05] <kennethlove> org__: use alien.
[08:05] <windex> wesley, the big diffrence between 256 and 512, imho, is that openoffice runs faster.
[08:05] <HappyFool> !tell org__ about alien
[08:05] <kennethlove> bob2: painful? you must be expecting too much
[08:05] <tritium> org__: what are you trying to install?
[08:05] <bipolar> org__, not directly. use alien to convert them.
[08:05] <org__> i got a p2p client name gnutella i used it in fedora core and it was great, can i install it in ubuntu please?
[08:05] <kennethlove> i don't feel any pain at 128
[08:06] <kennethlove> org__: have you tried apt-get install gnutella?
[08:06] <org__> anyone knows about gtk-gnutella
[08:06] <org__> kennethlove, no i didn't
[08:06] <kennethlove> org__: that or look in synaptic (if you're not comfortable with the CLI)
[08:06] <lotusleaf> Regarding adding multiverse to the sources.list, is this the same as http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/
[08:06] <org__> coudln't find package gnutella
[08:06] <org__> i don't know what is CLI
[08:06] <kennethlove> org__: look in synaptic and see if you can find it (CLI = command line interface)
[08:06] <HappyFool> !tell lotusleaf about repos
[08:06] <org__> hmm
[08:07] <org__> i tried "gtk-gnutella" and it's downloading
[08:07] <HappyFool> org__: or check out packages.ubuntu.com
[08:07] <org__> apt-get gtk-gnutella
[08:07] <Strog> Command Line Interface
[08:07] <kennethlove> there ya go.
[08:07] <org__> ok i will check HappyFool
[08:07] <org__> yes kennethlove thats cool
[08:07] <org__> but why we can't install rpms?
[08:07] <lotusleaf> HappyFool, thanks, I know about adding repos, but when I add multiverse to sources.list and apt-get update it doesn't show transcode in synaptic but transcode IS listed here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/
[08:07] <bob2> kennethlove: ?
[08:07] <ScatterBrain> org__: It's apt-cache search gtk-knutella to search for a package.
[08:07] <org__> everything in the world is with rpms :P
[08:07] <org__> ScatterBrain, thanks too
[08:08] <org__> but i'll check the web for packages too
[08:08] <org__> i don't have breezy in my sources.list so i can't get breezy packages?
[08:08] <Bad_Magic> can anyone tell me how to decrease the default DHCP wait time?
[08:08] <kennethlove> bob2: if gnome is painful @ 128 for you, you're probably trying to do too much at once.
[08:08] <HappyFool> lotusleaf: is transcode available for hoary?
[08:08] <kennethlove> rpms suck, yo. apt-get is where it's at
[08:08] <Strog> not everything is rpms. Even different rpms aren't compatible with different distros. Many rpms for the same distro don't work on different versions
[08:08] <kennethlove> and building from source. :)
[08:08] <lotusleaf> HappyFool, how can I tell?
[08:08] <bob2> kennethlove: eh? I should be able to run a web browser, a text editor and a few dozen terminals at once without paging to hell and back
[08:09] <bob2> org__: you don't often need to install things from outside ubuntu itself
[08:09] <org__> kennethlove, ok now after i've done "apt-get install gtk-gnutella" and it works fine, where is it saved now, so i can create an icon for it in the desktop or so, i'm not sure where it goes.
[08:09] <kennethlove> bob2: i usually run a system like that and i don't notice any problems.
[08:09] <org__> bob2, ok sir
[08:09] <lotusleaf> HappyFool, it's listed in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/t/transcode but not in my synaptic with multiverse added
[08:09] <HappyFool> lotusleaf: check packages.ubuntu.com
[08:09] <Bad_Magic> !DHCP
[08:09] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Bad_Magic
[08:09] <bipolar> I love the "Add Applications" menu item in breezy. It's really easy to use.
[08:09] <Bad_Magic> no love ubotu, no love
[08:10] <kennethlove> org__: you should be able to type 'gtk-gnutella &' at a terminal to launch it. if that works, just put 'gtk-gnutella' as the command for the icon and you're good to go.
[08:10] <lotusleaf> HappyFool, I don't think transcode is on packages.ubuntu.com but thanks I'll check, I received this info on ubuntuforums I believe a mod mentioned transcode and the url and said it was unsupported
[08:10] <Surak> Hello, can someone help me with pgp on evolution?
[08:10] <HappyFool> lotusleaf: my impression is that archive.ubuntu.com has *all* packages, i.e., for warty, hoary and breezy. The relevant file(s) deciding what belongs to what are the Package.gz files
[08:10] <bipolar> is that a ubuntu created thing or a gnome 2.12 thing?
[08:10] <org__> kennethlove, which icon?
[08:10] <kennethlove> org__: whichever you want. when you make a new icon.
[08:10] <kennethlove> er, new shortcut, org__
[08:11] <org__> kennethlove, i'm using gnome, and i want to put it up there just near firefox, right click and add panel?
[08:11] <org__> or what
[08:11] <Surak> I have issues with latest evolution and pgp.
[08:11] <kennethlove> org__: yeah, add to panel, then add a launcher.
[08:12] <lotusleaf> HappyFool, thanks for the info - packages.ubuntu.com lists gtranscode which is a frontend, but not transcode. So why does packages.ubuntu.com offer gtranscode and not transcode since transcode is required to use transcode???? That's very odd.
[08:12] <Bad_Magic> can anyone tell me how to decrease the default DHCP wait time?
[08:12] <HappyFool> lotusleaf: check here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=transcode&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[08:12] <lotusleaf> is required to use gtranscode*
[08:12] <Laxaa> LethAL: It didn't work
[08:12] <HappyFool> the 'transcode' package is only available for breezy. maybe you can try hoary-backports or hoary-extras for transcode?
[08:12] <org__> great kennethlove
[08:12] <Surak> Evolution tries to sign messages using the wrong keyid. What should I do?
[08:12] <Laxaa> Please use single characters only
[08:13] <org__> kennethlove, but i want to see where is the files located after i install it, i mean all the gnutella files, and directory how to find out where the apt-get saved it?
[08:13] <lotusleaf> HappyFool, hoary-backports doesn't have it and hoary-extras isn't on ubuntu.com is it?
[08:13] <Surak> t tocando alguma coisa?
[08:13] <kennethlove> org__: to find the executable file, you can type 'locate gtk-gnutella' in a terminal.
[08:13] <HappyFool> lotusleaf: no
[08:13] <HappyFool> !tell lotusleaf about hoary-extras
[08:13] <kennethlove> org__: the settings are probably in ~/.gtk-gnutella
[08:14] <lotusleaf> HappyFool, ok thanks, I'd much rather stick to official Ubuntu repos
[08:14] <org__> i did that kennethlove but nothing
[08:14] <dooglus> org__: or better 'locate bin/gtk-gnutella' to cut down on output
[08:14] <HappyFool> lotusleaf: fair enough. breezy'll be officially available october 13; if you're patient, you can get transcode then
[08:14] <Laxaa> LethAL: sudo apt-get....did work, but not sudo -irt2500*.deb
[08:14] <lotusleaf> HappyFool, thanks for your help, I appreciate it. :)
[08:14] <underline> i need some help u guys... My MySQL isn't working... When i try to connect to it, it says that Localhost isn't allowed to connect... how could it be possible?? Any ideas how to fix it?? tkx
[08:14] <james_> does ubuntu Antianaylise the desktop?
[08:14] <org__> dooglus, also nothing
[08:15] <lotusleaf> HappyFool, I guess there's always the compiling option. ;)
[08:15] <dooglus> org__: if the package is installed, the binary is /usr/bin/gtk-gnutella
[08:15] <wesley> so..
[08:15] <Bad_Magic> can anyone tell me how to decrease the default DHCP wait time?
[08:16] <wesley> i have a machine here with 1ghz, 256 and the ubuntu is runing faster then my notebook sempron 2.8 with 256
[08:16] <org__> thanks alot guys
[08:16] <[LethAL] > wesley, use a power cable then
[08:16] <wesley> so you think that can be any problem with mobily settings?
[08:16] <wesley> i'm using
[08:17] <[LethAL] > Yeah, sound like it
[08:17] <[LethAL] > sounds*
[08:17] <deflux-> Is nfs broken in ubuntu breezy preview?
[08:18] <wesley> the cable is already connected
[08:18] <Whistler> i need libqt3c102-mt how can i instal lit?
[08:18] <tritium> james_: yes, antialiasing can be configured in the font preferences
[08:18] <[LethAL] > wesley, I don't know anything about laptops and ubuntu or linux, sorry :(
[08:19] <wesley> :-(
[08:19] <james_> tritium: thanks :)
[08:20] <Laxaa> Hmmm...I'll guess I'll just get a regular router.....for now
[08:20] <[LethAL] > Laxaa, did it not work?
[08:20] <Laxaa> No
[08:20] <[LethAL] > What did it say?
[08:20] <Laxaa> Please use single characters only
[08:21] <[LethAL] > When?
[08:21] <Laxaa> for sudo -irt2500*.deb
[08:21] <underline> i need some help u guys... My MySQL isn't working... When i try to connect to it, it says that Localhost isn't allowed to connect... how could it be possible?? Any ideas how to fix it?? tkx
[08:21] <Laxaa> And for /msg ubotu rt2500
[08:21] <tritium> Laxaa: what on earth is that?
[08:21] <Laxaa> No such directory exists
[08:22] <HappyFool> underline: tried asking in #mysql?
[08:22] <[LethAL] > Laxaa, cd to the directory with the debs in and do dpkg -i *.deb
[08:22] <underline> tkx
[08:22] <[LethAL] > You do know about cd'ing, don't you?
[08:22] <Laxaa> No
[08:22] <Laxaa> I just installed the system
[08:22] <[LethAL] > Um... well
[08:22] <[LethAL] > !cd
[08:22] <flami> where do i get an newer version of firefox ?
[08:22] <ubotu> [LethAL] : Are you on ritalin?
[08:22] <[LethAL] > Damn :-(
[08:22] <Whistler> i need libqt3c102-mt how can i instal lit?
[08:23] <GDorn> any suggestions on how I could get ubuntu onto a laptop with no cdrom drive, no floppy drive, and no ability to boot from USB?
[08:23] <Laxaa> !cd in terminal?
[08:23] <ubotu> Laxaa: I haven't a clue
[08:23] <[LethAL] > Yes, that
[08:23] <tritium> Whistler: apt-cache search for it.  Find it, and install it.
[08:23] <Laxaa> Ok
[08:23] <FrdPrefct> GDorn: Trhow the HD into another computer
[08:23] <TiMiDo> !sound
[08:23] <ubotu> well, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[08:23] <thrice`> I can't get my wireless going with my WN825G motorola card
[08:23] <[LethAL] > Laxaa, my bad about ubotu
[08:23] <thrice`> anyone help ?
[08:23] <[LethAL] > !wiki Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[08:23] <FrdPrefct> thrice`: Prob need to install ndiswrappers
[08:23] <scorpix_> i can't upgrade/run firefox in Hoary, i got this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GdZXha42.htm , how can i fix it?
[08:23] <Laxaa> This is actally the first time Linux works on my computer
[08:24] <vengeful> thrice, breezy?
[08:24] <[LethAL] > Laxaa, do that !wiki command I did
[08:24] <GDorn> FrdPrefct:  and then?  is there a point at which I should stop the install and move the hard drive back?
[08:24] <Laxaa> Ok
[08:25] <Laxaa> !wiki Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[08:25] <[LethAL] > Or rather, go to wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[08:25] <FrdPrefct> GDorn: You could prob just let it go through, and then reconfigure
[08:25] <olcan> I just installed ubuntu and web pages load a lot slower than windows, is this normal?
[08:25] <Laxaa> Ok
[08:25] <thrice`> [LethAL] : well, I can't get that without net
[08:25] <[LethAL] > olcan, no, install the Fastrfox extension for firefox
[08:25] <FrdPrefct> olcan:  http://www.purplenurple.org/wiki/index.php?n=Main.SpeedUpFirefox
[08:26] <FrdPrefct> olcan: Give that a try
[08:26] <[LethAL] > thrice`, what?
[08:26] <olcan> ok thnx
[08:26] <vengeful> thrice  which ubuntu are you on?
[08:26] <GDorn> olcan:  also, have you installed latest graphics drivers?  sometimes redraw is a bit slow until you do.
[08:26] <thrice`> hoary
[08:26] <thrice`> with no net
[08:26] <Laxaa> LethAL: i'll try it out
[08:26] <thrice`> I need to grab ndiswrapper and deps
[08:27] <braveheart> ciao
[08:27] <olcan> I haven't installed anything other than the ubuntu cd
[08:28] <FrdPrefct> olcan: Did that help any?
[08:28] <vengeful> breezy seems to fix most peoples wireless problems..only 10 days from stable
[08:28] <egoleo> is pretty cool
[08:28] <FrdPrefct> breezy is nice... install apt-get install wifi-radar
[08:28] <tritium> what is, egoleo ?
[08:28] <GDorn> will breezy support usb wifi?
[08:28] <FrdPrefct> works like a champ.
[08:28] <thrice`> I just need the driver working for a WN825G wireless
[08:28] <egoleo> i mean breezy
[08:28] <[LethAL] > GDorn, Depends which chipset?
[08:28] <thrice`> anyone ?
[08:29] <TiMiDo> !ac97
[08:29] <ubotu> TiMiDo: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:29] <FrdPrefct> GDorn: I don't see why not, just get a supported chipset
[08:29] <TiMiDo> !sound
[08:29] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[08:29] <bloodnik> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[08:29] <bloodnik> How do I go about getting build here?
[08:29] <tritium> bloodnik: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:29] <GDorn> [LethAL] , I'm pretty sure it's one of the prisms.  It's a dlink dwl121something.  I just heard that usb wifi was iffy at best.
[08:29] <tritium> what are you building, bloodnik ?
[08:29] <olcan> i'm on it
[08:29] <bloodnik> prism5.4
[08:29] <thrice`> noone good iwth wireless eh ?
[08:29] <bloodnik> prism54
[08:30] <[LethAL] > GDorn, I think prisms work well
[08:30] <[LethAL] > thrice`, why?
[08:30] <thrice`> i can't get my WN825G working
[08:30] <janne_Newbie> Hi All...! I have one simple guestion..?  Where i change splash screen...?
[08:30] <tritium> thrice`: which chipset?
[08:30] <[LethAL] > ^^
[08:30] <FrdPrefct> thrice`: Several people, including myself, have given you suggestions... we can't DO it for you.
[08:30] <thrice`> it's a motorola WN825G wireless card
[08:30] <kennethlove> janne_Newbie:
[08:30] <thrice`> FrdPrefct: well, that's for an RT2500
[08:30] <thrice`> will that work ?
[08:30] <tritium> yes, which chipset, thrice` ?
[08:31] <kennethlove> janne_Newbie: System -> Preferences -> Splash Screen
[08:31] <thrice`> tritium: the wireless card?
[08:31] <TiMiDo> !backport
[08:31] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, backport is see !backports
[08:31] <TiMiDo> !backports
[08:31] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[08:31] <tritium> thrice`: of course
[08:31] <thrice`> tritium: Motorola WN825G
[08:31] <Whistler> i need libqt3c102-mt how can i instal it? Theres no such thing in apt
[08:31] <[LethAL] > thrice`, chipset, not model number
[08:31] <tritium> Is that the card, or the chipset, thrice` ?
[08:31] <tritium> Whistler: yes it is
[08:31] <janne_Newbie> ok...
[08:31] <thrice`> card; how do I determine the chipset of it ?
[08:31] <Whistler> where?
[08:32] <thrice`> hrm...couyld be RT2500
[08:32] <Kaparen> what kind of information does the xorg.conf file contain?
[08:32] <[LethAL] > thrice`, but that card is PCMCIA, no?
[08:32] <[LethAL] > that = your*
[08:32] <Whistler> Kaparen your video and other settings
[08:32] <tritium> !info libqt3c102-mt
[08:32] <ubotu> libqt3c102-mt: (Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3), section libs, is optional. Version: 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2890 kB, Installed size: 7228 kB
[08:32] <thrice`> yes
[08:32] <tritium> see, Whistler ?
[08:32] <rendell> help: how to fix broken packages in synaptic.
[08:32] <Whistler> hmm
[08:32] <GDorn> motorola WN825G
[08:33] <GDorn> chipset broadcom 4306
[08:33] <thrice`> ah
[08:33] <thrice`> thanks GDorn
[08:33] <GDorn> you will probably need to use a ndis wrapper
[08:33] <tritium> yep
[08:33] <GDorn> google is your friend.
[08:33] <thrice`> ok; it's for myt friend...i've never touched wireless in my life =|
[08:33] <Whistler> However the following packages replace it:
[08:33] <Whistler>   libqt3-mt
[08:33] <Whistler>  but the program still needs original one
[08:34] <Whistler> sorry for flood
[08:34] <Chousuke> wireless is good <3
[08:34] <thrice`> mmk, i'll try er out =] 
[08:34] <thrice`> bbiab
[08:34] <[LethAL] > Chousuke, and so are microsoft
[08:34] <olcan> FrdPrefect. it si still sloww, it takes a lot at the "looking up..." and the it is kind of slow drawing the pictures.
[08:34] <vengeful> well thrice if the wrapper doesnt work probably best for your friend to try breezy...has much better wireless support..no idea if that motorola in included tho
[08:35] <Chousuke> Lethal: By what logic? :P
[08:35] <Kaparen> Whistler: so by let's say I would replace my xorg.conf with my worg.conf.backup file I wouldnt lose my updates?
[08:35] <[LethAL] > Chousuke, sarcasm
[08:35] <Kaparen> just my vid settings.
[08:35] <Chousuke> Lethal: I fail to see any reason for sarcasm.
[08:35] <Whistler> Kaparen i really dont think so but do not do that
[08:35] <[LethAL] > Because Wireless sucsk...
[08:35] <Whistler> oh
[08:36] <Chousuke> You haven't used a laptop much then.
[08:36] <bipolar> is anyone using amarok in breezy? I'm having trouble with it erroring out when it can't run kmail and closing. I can't find out what part of it needs kmail. I don't want to have to install it.
[08:36] <Whistler> Kaparen you  mean sys updates?
[08:36] <Whistler> Kaparen you wont lose them
[08:36] <[LethAL] > Chousuke, no, I haven't
[08:36] <Kaparen> yes! ah ok thanks!
[08:36] <Chousuke> Lethal: You have no right to comment then.
[08:36] <Chousuke> :)
[08:36] <[LethAL] > Chousuke, I wasn't assuming you were on about Laptops though :P
[08:36] <Chousuke> a 12" laptop + campus WLAN = rok
[08:37] <vengeful> a 12" laptop is abit pointless
[08:37] <vengeful> hehe
[08:37] <[LethAL] > I have a Broadcom-based router, rt2570-based adapter and that's not very good ;)
[08:37] <kennethlove> not when it's a 12" ibook. :)
[08:37] <Chousuke> vengeful: It's just the right size
[08:37] <vengeful> for what, exactly?
[08:37] <kbrooks> back ;)
[08:37] <Chousuke> kennethlove: and it's even better when it's a powerbook
[08:37] <Chousuke> for poetability.
[08:37] <tritium> welcome back, kbrooks
[08:37] <Chousuke> portability :P
[08:38] <kennethlove> Chousuke: there's really not much difference. :) and ibook's are prettier.
[08:38] <Chousuke> 15" is too bulky.
[08:38] <Kaparen> I got stuck updating and had to rebbot and do a 'dpkg --configure -a' to continue my update, but it totally mesed up my graphics. Couldnt boot Ubuntu so I rolled back my xorg.conf and did the whole nvidia manual settings stuff again.
[08:38] <Chousuke> kennethlove: I prefer the metallic colour.
[08:38] <vengeful> hmm one of my laptops is 17" hehe
[08:38] <kennethlove> Chousuke: yeah, whatever. :P
[08:38] <Chousuke> huge!
[08:38] <Chousuke> kennethlove: besides, PBs have a more powerful 3d card ;P
[08:39] <_john> hey, does anyone know how to install quake 3 demo on linux?
[08:39] <vengeful> thats more of a desktop replacement tho..i mainly use my inspiron 6000..which is 15
[08:39] <_john> its a .gz.sh file
[08:39] <Chousuke> and I own a PB. case closed. D:
[08:39] <kennethlove> Chousuke: can't say i do much 3d, so it'd be wasted.
[08:39] <Kaparen> so what exactly does the "dpkg --configure -a" command do?
[08:39] <_john> i run the script, and it says something about /var/tmp/kdecache-john and /var/tmp/kdecache-root
[08:39] <vengeful> configures stuff
[08:39] <TiMiDo> hey how come when i open xmms i can play a song but it doesn't sound anything
[08:39] <TiMiDo> what can i do?
[08:39] <thrice`> any once I have ndiswrapper installed ?  any good howtos anywhere ?
[08:39] <Chousuke> vengeful: you can't carry a 17" laptop in one hand.
[08:39] <tritium> Kaparen: man dpkg ;)
[08:40] <thrice`> I found one on google, but many have said it doesn't work very well
[08:40] <Whistler> any other good bit torrent client than azureus?
[08:40] <Chousuke> not very easily at least.
[08:40] <[LethAL] > !ndiswrapper
[08:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:40] <kennethlove> what would a "GC Warning" be? GC?
[08:40] <vengeful> i just use the default one, whistler..seems to do the job
[08:40] <tritium> thrice`: also, familiarize yourself with wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[08:41] <Whistler> vengeful is it possible to change port with default one?
[08:41] <Kaparen> thanks tritium. sorry, I a reaaal newbie at this Linux stuff
[08:41] <olcan> could anyone tell me how to access root folders?
[08:41] <vengeful> sudo
[08:41] <vengeful> sorry whistler?
[08:41] <virgule> i am doing dist-upgrade to breezy and I see a lot of locale settings failure like this: http://pastebin.com/381821   whats up?
[08:41] <Whistler> i need to change default port
[08:42] <vengeful> ah gotcha...dunno...never needed to ;-)
[08:44] <umberleigh> hi. i want to change my firewall front-end from guarddog to firestarter. can i just uninstall one and install the other, or do i need to worry about iptables stuff?
[08:44] <james_> anyone know of good freeware Linux games??
[08:44] <james_> been searching, linuxgames.org have a list but not enough pictures :)
[08:45] <nalioth> umberleigh: you dont have to uninstall anything
[08:45] <kennethlove> james_: frozen-bubble
[08:45] <nalioth> umberleigh: just use the one you want
[08:45] <umberleigh> nalioth: okay. thanks
[08:45] <james_> kennethlove: looks interesting :)
[08:46] <kbrooks> nalioth: can you read me? ;)
[08:46] <GDorn> oh, that looks like, um, what was that game on windows?  snootch?  sneetch?  splortch?
[08:48] <_john> how do you pronounce debian?
[08:48] <_john> dee-bee-an?
[08:48] <_john> deb-ee-an?
[08:49] <kennethlove> _john: dee-bee-ann
[08:49] <spola> it's like Debby-An :p
[08:49] <ericz> how's ubuntu pronounced?
[08:49] <ericz> you bunt too ?
[08:49] <_john> oo-boon-too
[08:49] <_john> it was in the ubuntu guide if i recall correctly
[08:49] <ericz> how about linux? is it linn uxx or line uxx ?
[08:49] <_john> i do lin-ixx or lin-ux
[08:50] <_john> well linus torvalds said how to pronounce it, im sure if you google it you can find it.
[08:50] <_john> i just always wondered how to say debian >_<
[08:51] <tritium> _john: it's the combination of the names Deb (short for Deborah) and Ian
[08:51] <dash> ericz: there is a classic answer to your question
[08:51] <ericz> classic answer, really, what is it?
[08:51] <spola> i pronounce linux like i do linus, and it's not with the u from 'us'
[08:51] <Chousuke> linuxhas a long i I think
[08:52] <Chousuke> linus* even
[08:52] <Chousuke> and maybe linux too
[08:52] <Chousuke> I tend to pronounce it with only a short i though.
[08:52] <_john> tritium: OH, that makes sense
[08:52] <_john> are there .ian files <_,
[08:52] <_john> *<_<
[08:52] <tritium> no, it's not long
[08:52] <ericz> well i never really have to say it, usually just type it
[08:52] <_john> same
[08:52] <nicks68> I have trubble printing to my printer. Is connected to a D-link router, My old debian used printcap with :rm=192.168.11.129:\   and :rp=lp:\. I cant get to work in ubuntu 5.10. What shod i trye?
[08:52] <tritium> _john: heh.  There's more info on the Debian history page
[08:52] <vengeful> and even when you say you use it...99% of people say "huh?"
[08:53] <dash> ericz: http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/
[08:53] <Chousuke> tritium: Most linuses I've heard have had a long i
[08:53] <_john> tritium: i should look into that
[08:53] <thrice`> ok
[08:53] <dash> Chousuke: most of them are not from .fi, I bet
[08:53] <thrice`> when I try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, it says operation not permitted
[08:53] <tritium> Chousuke: linus himself recorded the proper pronunciation, and it's not long
[08:53] <thrice`> it won't let me insert it
[08:53] <Chousuke> dash: from .se I guess.
[08:53] <ericz> wow dash, he sures has an accent
[08:53] <kbrooks> dashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?
[08:54] <thrice`> anyone have any ideas?
[08:54] <Chousuke> I somehow thought it had a long i because it's a swedish name.
[08:54] <kbrooks> dash: do you use ubuntu?
[08:54] <dash> kbrooks: Surprise.
[08:54] <Chousuke> but who cares
[08:54] <dash> Chousuke: Yeah, it's a little weird
[08:54] <Chousuke> at least I don't pronounce NES as Any-es or IRC as I R C :P
[08:54] <thrice`> cant' insert ndiswrapper.ko
[08:54] <dash> Chousuke: apparently he is from a swedish-speaking family in .fi
[08:54] <Chousuke> dash: yeah
[08:55] <spola> Chousuke,  so you say what? erk?
[08:55] <tritium> dash: are you one of the incredibles?  ;)
[08:55] <dash> tritium: i was a bit miffed by that movie
[08:55] <dash> tritium: they infringed on my trademark
[08:55] <dash> ;)
[08:55] <tritium> heh
[08:55] <Chousuke> spola: same i as in linux
[08:55] <Chousuke> and then rk
[08:55] <No1Viking> !tell em about iso
[08:56] <No1Viking> !tell me about mount
[08:56] <thrice`> hrm
[08:56] <kbrooks> No1Viking: No. use /msg.
[08:56] <thrice`> any idea why the ndiswrapper module would fail ?
[08:56] <No1Viking> kbrooks: ok
[08:57] <thrice`> =[
[08:57] <kbrooks> No1Viking: /msg ubotu factoids
[08:57] <Chousuke> and hm
[08:57] <Schteen> Someone able to help a noob out? :s
[08:57] <Chousuke> tritium: Linus does pronounce his name in that with a long i :P
[08:58] <thrice`> i have restricted modules installed
[08:58] <HappyFool> Schteen: just ask your question; if someone can help, they will
[08:58] <tritium> not in "linux", Chousuke
[08:58] <Chousuke> Yes.
[08:58] <Chousuke> But I was talking about his name.
[08:58] <ubuntu> hola
[08:58] <HappyFool> thrice`: you've followed the ndiswrapper instructions on the wiki?
[08:58] <ubuntu> hay alguien de Colombia?
[08:58] <nalioth> !es
[08:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:58] <No1Viking> How do I mount a ISO image?
[08:58] <Schteen> Righto.. I just got Ubuntu installed on my laptop, but when I boot up it crashes at the login screen..
[08:58] <dash> Schteen: greetings, human. state the nature of the emergency
[08:58] <vengeful> thrice i had a pretty useless experience with ndisweapper in other distros
[08:58] <tritium> Chousuke: we were talking about linux
[08:59] <ubuntu> hola
[08:59] <thrice`> HappyFool: yes; I got my .inf driver loaded, but modprobe ndiswrapper, and it failed
[08:59] <Schteen> P.S: Ubuntu is my first meeting with linux :P
[08:59] <ubuntu> hay alguna chica colombiana?
[08:59] <Chousuke> tritium: I changed the topic :P
[08:59] <tritium> ubuntu: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:59] <brosio> where should i put my module after that i've make it ?
[08:59] <dash> Schteen: What kind of crash, exactly?
[08:59] <HappyFool> thrice`: hrm, ok. sorry, can't help more
[08:59] <Chousuke> I think he's looking for girls. maybe.
[08:59] <Chousuke> :D
[08:59] <vengeful> crashes ..in what way schteen?
[08:59] <vengeful> display?
[08:59] <Schteen> well more of a freeze..
[08:59] <thrice`> tritium: any idea why the ndiswrapper module would fail to insert itself ?
[08:59] <Schteen> Unable to move mouse cursor and don't get any reaction from hammering keyboard etc
[09:00] <dash> Schteen: Hmm, nasty.
[09:00] <dash> Schteen: What video card do you have?
[09:00] <vengeful> but the display itself isnt garbled?
[09:00] <Schteen> nah, looks ok.. First time I thought it was loading some stuff, but it just stays for ages
[09:01] <spiral> hi
[09:01] <vengeful> ah hm not sure then...i know some dell laptops can crash due to the chipset not being supported yet.....that seems to work ok in breezy though
[09:01] <tritium> thrice`: sorry, no
[09:01] <Schteen> Hm, breezy supports a wider range?
[09:02] <fizzle> ubotu repository
[09:02] <ubotu> fizzle: Are you smoking crack?
[09:02] <vengeful> breezy(in my opinion) is amazing for support
[09:02] <fizzle> ubotu tell fizzle what is repository
[09:02] <Schteen> I'll give Breezy a try instead then :] 
[09:02] <fizzle> ubotu tell fizzle what is fluxbox
[09:02] <vengeful> even detected my belkin wireless in my desktop....even windows hates belkin hehe
[09:02] <fizzle> ubotu tell me what is fluxbox
[09:02] <kbrooks> fizzle: do not play with the bot
[09:02] <HappyFool> fizzle: try '!tell me about fluxbox'
[09:02] <ericz> !tell fizzle about fluxbox
[09:02] <GDorn> !tell me about fluxbox
[09:02] <fizzle> im trying to figure out how to set up synaptic so i can download fluxbox
[09:03] <vengeful> erm
[09:03] <vengeful> search for fluxbox
[09:03] <vengeful> click it
[09:03] <vengeful> apply marked changes
[09:03] <vengeful> and done
[09:03] <fizzle> !tell fizzle about repository
[09:03] <ericz> synaptic is so simple
[09:03] <fizzle> i need a list of repositories
[09:03] <dash> synaptic confuses me
[09:03] <HappyFool> well, once the repositories are setup
[09:03] <kbrooks> ubotu: playwithbot is <reply>Do not play with me, please. Message me instead.
[09:03] <ubotu> kbrooks: okay
[09:03] <HappyFool> !tell fizzle about repos
[09:03] <dash> compared to aptitude, anyway
[09:03] <fizzle> ty
[09:03] <kbrooks> !playwithbot
[09:03] <ubotu> Do not play with me, please. Message me instead.
[09:03] <GDorn> I'm a little vague on windowmanagers...  if I switch to a different one, say, fluxbox, does it mean I'm going to have to manually build menus again?
[09:04] <vengeful> you might need to with flixbox actually
[09:04] <dash> GDorn: it oughta load the debian standard menus
[09:04] <vengeful> flux*
[09:04] <vengeful> if you fancy a change xfce4 works well in ubuntu
[09:04] <HappyFool> dash: that's just cos you're a crusty old cli debian user :P
[09:04] <dash> HappyFool: Possibly
[09:04] <Whistler> is there any people experienced with siemens routers?
[09:05] <Belutz> !botsnack
[09:05] <ubotu> :)
[09:05] <dash> HappyFool: I've only been using aptitude for a year, really
[09:05] <mantas_> has someone problems with nvidia and Xorg with breezy?
[09:05] <GDorn> I tend to use apt-get for packages I know the names of, and synapse only when I need to search for something that I can't recall
[09:05] <dash> HappyFool: (i still miss dselect, sometimes)
[09:06] <vengeful> try xfce , gdorn
[09:06] <shedi> GDorn, you can use apt-cache search package
[09:06] <HappyFool> dash: well, i've only been rpm-free for a year or so, so my experience is limited; i see dselect is still there though
[09:06] <GDorn> hmm.
[09:06] <vengeful> i cant decide which to use actually...gnome or xfce
[09:06] <nalioth> vengeful: why not enlightenment?
[09:06] <dash> nalioth: hahaha
[09:07] <Schteen> vengeful, hehe seems I was in fact using Breezy :P
[09:07] <dash> HappyFool: well, aptitude has some actual real improvements
[09:07] <Schteen> oh well, thanks anyway
[09:07] <vengeful> ick then
[09:07] <vengeful> hey dont give up
[09:07] <nicks68> Hi, i can't play mp3 with ubuntu 5.10
[09:07] <dash> HappyFool: like tracking packages that were installed automatically as dependencies
[09:07] <vengeful> nalioth i used to use it in mdnrake
[09:07] <vengeful> i just think its kinda outdated
[09:07] <shedi> nicks68, what program are you trying to use to play mp3
[09:07] <dash> HappyFool: and removing them when the manually-installed packages that depend on them are removed
[09:07] <GDorn> here's a little pet peeve of mine:  windowmanagers that don't map the upper-right-pixel of the screen to the 'close' button on a maximized window.  there's only one gnome theme in ubuntu that doesn't have a border in the way up there, and it's ugly...
[09:08] <vengeful> schteen what laptop you got?
[09:08] <nicks68> Totem
[09:08] <vengeful> try xmms
[09:08] <dash> GDorn: that sounds like a feature rather than a bug :)
[09:08] <vengeful> or theres a guide on the bot.....but i forgot the command
[09:08] <BurgerMann> Humn. How do I browse and search amongst currently installed packages on my system?...
[09:08] <Belutz> wewwww do much update on xorg
[09:08] <Darknight> hello
[09:08] <nicks68> apt-get xmms
[09:08] <Belutz> *so
[09:09] <dash> BurgerMann: synaptic or aptitude
[09:09] <nalioth> vengeful: e17 will change your opinion
[09:09] <dash> nalioth: hahaha
[09:09] <GDorn> dash:  it's neither.  it's just bad gui design.  I _like_ being able to close a window without looking.
[09:09] <dash> GDorn: alt+f4
[09:09] <shedi> nicks68, you need also xmms-mad
[09:09] <GDorn> (yeah, I know, keyboard)
[09:09] <BurgerMann> dash, aptitude it is I guess, since I'm not using x
[09:09] <dash> BurgerMann: Hooray
[09:09] <dash> anyway
[09:09] <shedi> nicks68, no I'm talking bull
[09:09] <esac> GDorn: i always used to hate that too. then i started using windows like they were _meant_ to be used (not maximizing all of them) and that problem went away
[09:09] <nate_at_home> Okay, check this one out - http://www.speedphreak.com/~nathanf/pref.png
[09:09] <dash> anybody upgrade Eclipse today?
[09:09] <pixelmonkey> GDorn: I'm pretty sure some hack of a gtkrc could fix that for you.
[09:09] <BurgerMann> dash: huh? :p
[09:09] <Schteen> vengeful, HP Pavillion, AMD processor (not sure on chipset)
[09:09] <Darknight> anyone know here about tvtime and bttv under breezy? I have a problem to get it to work
[09:09] <procrastinationn> yo yo
[09:10] <nate_at_home> my xmms and mplayer menus look like that with the text all garbled
[09:10] <pixelmonkey> GDorn: me too, use CTRL+W.  Trust me, it's healthier.  You shouldn't use your mouse so much.
[09:10] <Belutz> anyone using sylpheed-claws yet as primary email client?
[09:10] <GDorn> yeah, I know.  I have minor wrist pain already, which has lead me to switch to dvorak for typing.
[09:11] <esac> oh great, another "dvorak fixes my wrist pain" story
[09:11] <dash> hee
[09:11] <GDorn> well, it fixed the pain in my _left_ wrist...
[09:11] <GDorn> but I mouse too much.
[09:11] <nicks68> xmms works fine, thanks.
[09:11] <esac> GDorn: switching to dvorak doesn't fix your wrist pain. switching to _any_other_keyboard_style fixes your wrist pain just the same
[09:11] <GDorn> uh, how's that?
[09:11] <dash> a lot of wrist pain is often simple dehydration
[09:12] <esac> GDorn: i had tons of wrist pain. now i vary my keyboards once a week (flat, microsoft natural, different curves). ive even learned to start using my mouse left handed
[09:12] <BurgerMann> aptitude is way better than synaptic :S... sorry I first know now :S
[09:12] <barongas> Any recommended ftp program witha gui for debian? Looking for something with functionality of flashxp.
[09:12] <dash> if you're not drinking 3-4L of water a day, your joints can't lubricate properly long term
[09:12] <esac> GDorn: because you are consistently using the same posture and same muscles in the exact same way, thats what causes rsi/pain. "switching it up" solves a lot of problems
[09:12] <dash> BurgerMann: isn't it fun? :)
[09:12] <pixelmonkey> GDorn, yea, I agree.  The major thing to alleviating wrist pain is switching your static configuration.
[09:13] <BurgerMann> dash, yah.. hilarious :P
[09:13] <fizzle> hey anyone here use fluxbox?
[09:13] <butcherbird> fizzle: yes
[09:13] <procrastinationn> nope
[09:13] <dash> BurgerMann: make sure to ply minesweeper while waiting for your packages to download
[09:13] <GDorn> esac:  that still doesn't discount that some keyboard layouts require more difficult hand positions than others.
[09:13] <fizzle> butcherbird, does your fluxbox run slow?
[09:13] <Pepper> Hmmm...
[09:13] <BurgerMann> dash, lol
[09:13] <butcherbird> fizzle: super freaky fast actually =)
[09:13] <fizzle> butcherbird, when changing styles
[09:13] <esac> nod pixelmonkey , i've been through 12 doctors, i dont have carpal tunnel, but i have/had major wrist pain all the time. the last doctor suggested i switch things up and almost immediately the pain went away. i still get it but not nearly as often
[09:14] <BurgerMann> dash, or pacman
[09:14] <fizzle> butcherbird, and you got it off of the repository or did you compile from source?
[09:14] <ulaas> Hey, who is responsible from LaunchPad..
[09:14] <dash> BurgerMann: aptitude doesn't have pacman builtin
[09:14] <esac> GDorn: ive been there. i used dvorak for 2 years. the pain came back once i became used to typing that way all of the time.
[09:14] <ulaas> Bring me the guy i will kiss him!
[09:14] <barongas> Ok, anyone have any tips for ftp-programs I should NOT install? Cause if you don't have any good recommendations I'll have to apt-get every ftp program and try em out :)
[09:14] <Pepper> Anybody can help me on how to configure ubuntu to access the internet through PPPOE?
[09:14] <BurgerMann> dash, but it has minesweeper??
[09:14] <dash> BurgerMann: Surprise!
[09:14] <Whistler> i am trying to forward ports.Can anybody try to connect to my ip using vncviewer 85.206.161.186:5900
[09:14] <butcherbird> fizzle: repo, it does take a few seconds when switching styles but after that its fine
[09:14] <esac> Pepper: lftp is good
[09:14] <BurgerMann> dash: rofl..
[09:14] <procrastinationn> gftp barongas
[09:14] <BurgerMann> dash: thought you were joking..
[09:14] <fizzle> k just checking if it was just nme
[09:14] <butcherbird> fizzle: p3 650 256mb ram
[09:15] <Whistler> Can anybody try to connect to my ip using vncviewer 85.206.161.186:5900
[09:15] <fizzle> butcherbird, 1.5GHz 128mb of ram
[09:15] <Pepper> ?
[09:15] <dash> BurgerMann: I'm always serious.
[09:15] <Whistler> i need to test is my router working correctly
[09:15] <barongas> procrastinationn: I'll check it out (unless it was something I shouldn't try :) )
[09:15] <BurgerMann> dash: lol, you're right.. heh.. how nice of them
[09:15] <procrastinationn> its good you can get it in synaptic
[09:15] <dash> hrrrm
[09:15] <fizzle> also i have another question. ive configured my Xorg to support 1280x1024 resolution and for some reason it wont go beyond 1024x786 or w/e it is
[09:15] <dash> eclipse is busted.
[09:16] <GDorn> esac:  maybe it's working for me due to having different keyboards on different computers?  I've got a laptop with a smaller keyboard, a computer at work with a natural keyboard, and a flat one at home.  thing is, I had all of those with qwerty, and the only difference between then and now is dvorak.  and the lack of wrist pain (except for mousing)
[09:16] <thrice`> =|
[09:16] <Whistler> Can anybody try to connect to my ip using vncviewer 85.206.161.186:5900
[09:16] <thrice`> oh well, guess it wasn't meant to be
[09:16] <Pepper> esac, I didn't ask for an ftp client...
[09:16] <butcherbird> fizzle: configured horz and vert rates?
[09:16] <ericz> whistler, not working
[09:16] <fizzle> butcherbird, indeed. i used the xorgcfg tool
[09:16] <Whistler> ericz thx :( i am so angry i cant make my router to forward ports :(
[09:16] <Pepper> Anybody can help me on how to configure ubuntu to access the internet through PPPOE?
[09:16] <ericz> times out
[09:17] <ompaul> GDorn, actually learning to use an old style typewriter  correctly gives good posture and has stood me in good stead for over 20 years - sitting correctly works - think about typing pools - they did not have that problem - only when people got bad habits -that is not a medical or techinal opinion - it is mine :)
[09:17] <nate_at_home> can anyone help me with some font problems in xmms?
[09:17] <esac> GDorn: it comes down to just the fact that it is something new. it _will_ help your wrist pain, but your wrist pain will come back. you need typing breaks, and to learn to use your mouse left handed, and pick up some odd keyboards
[09:17] <procrastinationn> anyone heard of xlink linux installer
[09:18] <esac> GDorn: do not use wrist straps when typing. at night time is ok, but never when typing
[09:18] <butcherbird> fizzle: well i never use about 1024x786 because of my crappy computer =) never ran into that sorry
[09:18] <fizzle> ah
[09:18] <fizzle> ok ill check my config again
[09:18] <GDorn> esac:  it's been new for two years?
[09:18] <butcherbird> 768
[09:18] <esac> GDorn: go to a few doctors. i got work to pay for some odd keyboards because of it :)
[09:19] <HappyFool> Pepper: how's this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[09:19] <thrice`> ndiswrapper is borked =|  oh well...thanks anyways
[09:19] <bob2> thrice`: so file a bug
[09:19] <HappyFool> thrice`: you can try installing a new version
[09:19] <HappyFool> thrice`: ndiswrapper.sf.net
[09:19] <bob2> or exchange your wireless card for one with real drivers
[09:19] <Pepper> HappyFool: It's not an ADSL connection, but I guess it'll work. Thanks for the hint
[09:20] <GDorn> heh.  actually, the pain in my right wrist is the only one that's left, and it's getting better because I'm mousing with a trackball and a mouse in turn.  that, and actually using it in exercise.  but, yeah, mice are generally evil, and I might get a footmouse.
[09:20] <thrice`> bob2: it's a motorola WN825G; actually, ndiswrapper won't let me insert kernel modules
[09:20] <thrice`> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper fails
[09:20] <jose__> join #ubuntu-es
[09:20] <ghb> I'm having some troubles installing Ubuntu, can someone please help me?
[09:20] <HappyFool> ghb: can you be more specific?
[09:21] <esac> GDorn: left handed, make sure everything is 1 click (trust me you'll get used to it)
[09:21] <ghb> HappyFool: The computer boots up from the CD, uncompresses the kernel, and boots it... But then it doesn't do anything else; it just sits there... =/
[09:21] <ghb> HappyFool: It displays a message, saying that it's running the kernel, but nothing happens.
[09:22] <Pepper> Plus, I haven't created (I wasn't asked) any root user, I assumed it would be there as administrator, and the password would be the same as the first user I created.
[09:22] <HappyFool> ghb: hmm. ouch. where'd you get the cd from?
[09:22] <HappyFool> !tell pepper about sudo
[09:22] <bob2> Pepper: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:22] <bob2> Pepper: the installer did tell you about it...
[09:22] <ghb> HappyFool: I downloaded it. I've run a checksum test, and it reports 2 errors. But those file are 0 kb large. =/
[09:23] <bob2> ghb: then check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded
[09:23] <barongas> Anyone have any experience with mounting .mdf files? Anything special I should do?
[09:23] <ghb> HappyFool: I'm currently redownloading the ISO-file, and will run a checksum test on it and then... Yeah, was just doing that. ;)
[09:23] <esac> why is it that everytime i run a dist-upgrade it seems like i always get "will use 31M more disk space". eventually this sucker will bloat
[09:23] <bob2> barongas: what is that?
[09:23] <[LethAL] > bob2, it's like iso/bin-cue
[09:23] <sepmike> anyone noticed that with breezy the GA311 from netgear can't get link speed 1000mb/s (1gb) ??
[09:23] <bob2> wtf
[09:23] <Belutz> bob2, will thunderbird 1.0.7 included in the breezy release repos?
[09:23] <[LethAL] > CD Image, that's the word
[09:23] <Pepper> Thanks, that explains it.
[09:23] <barongas> bob2 I'm not sure, a patch for a win-game I'm cxofficing
[09:24] <Pepper> Do you know if the first link you sent me for ADSL connections will also work for a LAN connection?
[09:24] <Chousuke> esac: apt-get remove works ;)
[09:24] <bob2> Pepper: no
[09:24] <HappyFool> Pepper: not a clue, sorry
[09:24] <Pepper> Ok, thanks.
[09:24] <bob2> Belutz: I'd assume so
[09:24] <Pepper> bob2: How to configure a PPPOE connection, then?
[09:24] <ghb> Is there anything in particular I should think about when installing Ubuntu on a laptop?
[09:24] <[LethAL] > sepmike, that's hardly crucial though, is it?
[09:24] <bob2> Pepper: read that wiki page
[09:24] <Belutz> bob2, :)
[09:25] <esac> ghb: no, thinking is generally bad, mmmmkay
[09:25] <[LethAL] > Pepper, is it by any chance a speedtouch modem?
[09:25] <sepmike> [LethAL]  it's vital
[09:25] <ghb> esac: Mmmkaay.. =)
[09:25] <bob2> Belutz: if only because it will have yet more security issues i nthe future an dhave to be updated
[09:25] <[LethAL] > sepmike, what, to your ego?
[09:25] <sepmike> [LethAL]  point being it was at link speed 1000 before dist-upgrade
[09:26] <[LethAL] > O.O
[09:26] <[LethAL] > bug
[09:26] <sepmike> me thinks
[09:26] <sepmike> just wanted to know if anyone else had seen it
[09:26] <[LethAL] > Go file one ;)
[09:26] <sepmike> i've tried it on Linux ubuntu 2.6.11-1-amd64-k8  and  Linux XEON 2.6.12-8-386
[09:27] <ompaul> sepmike, how fast is it now?
[09:27] <sepmike> slow as all heck, shows speeds of 100mb on ethtool output
[09:27] <PoTs> I can't find ncftp in the repositories.  which is the best way to install ncftp on ubuntu breezy?
[09:27] <sepmike> but I can't get faster than ~600KB/s or so
[09:27] <[LethAL] > Ouch
[09:28] <bob2> sepmike: 2.6.11 is useless, don't even bother
[09:28] <ghb> HappyFool: The ISO file is intact, and I used Deamon Tools to run another checksum test on it. It reports the same 2 errors... =/
[09:28] <bob2> PoTs: /msg ubotu repositories
[09:28] <bob2> it's in universe
[09:28] <esac> how can i put my laptop to sleep? closing the lid doesnt seem to help
[09:28] <bob2> esac: sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[09:28] <bob2> esac: make sure everything is saved, etc
[09:29] <ghb> Which release should I be using?
[09:29] <esac> bob2: it didn't do anything
[09:29] <[LethAL] > Anyone know why my PC doesn't actually switch off but doesn't switch back on when I hibernate?
[09:29] <ompaul> ghb in terms of linux how would you rate yourself?
[09:29] <HappyFool> ghb: the md5sum of the iso image is ok?
[09:30] <bob2> [LethAL] : because it didn't hibernate?
[09:30] <HappyFool> ghb: i'm not sure what you mean when you say 'checksum', i'm afraid
[09:30] <ghb> HappyFool: yes.
[09:30] <sambagirl> anyone install this? desktop planetarium for KDE ?
[09:30] <[LethAL] > bob2, No, I mean more like it went on standby
[09:30] <sambagirl> it is in synaptic?
[09:30] <ompaul> HappyFool, checksum = md5sum
[09:30] <[LethAL] > bob2, Normally when I hibernate, everthing goes off
[09:30] <sambagirl> it wants to remove gnome things, is this wise?
[09:30] <ompaul> HappyFool, checksum = md5sum output (in actual foot)
[09:30] <[LethAL] > Normally = in windows
[09:30] <sambagirl> is gnome and kde in war?
[09:30] <ompaul> HappyFool, *fact
[09:31] <HappyFool> ompaul: foot?
[09:31] <[LethAL] > sambagirl, There are no wars in OSS
[09:31] <bob2> [LethAL] : right, so it didn't actually work
[09:31] <ghb> HappyFool: I mean the MD5 checksum.
[09:31] <HappyFool> ompaul: ah
[09:31] <[LethAL] > bob2, that's the impression I get
[09:31] <Belutz> sambagirl, we are at war with the terrorist :)
[09:31] <HappyFool> ghb: and what two errors are those?
[09:31] <sambagirl> you meaning Bush family? :)
[09:31] <bob2> [LethAL] : file a bug, including model numbers, /var/log/dmesg output, and anythign you see in the screen
[09:31] <[LethAL] > Terrorist? Don't you mean Borg?
[09:31] <Belutz> hahaha
[09:31] <[LethAL] > Bug with what exactly? Mobo info?
[09:31] <HappyFool> ghb: i mean, the two files you referred to earlier
[09:32] <sambagirl> so it wants to remove gnome things is that ok? will it hijack my desktop?
[09:32] <Belutz> sambagirl, it's ok to remove gnome, you can install any windows manager you like, such as KDE, xfce, etc
[09:32] <sambagirl> will there be problems?
[09:32] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[09:32] <sambagirl> well which is better?
[09:32] <ghb> HappyFool: .\install\netboot\pxelinux.cfg\default
[09:32] <ghb> .\install\netboot\pxelinux.0
[09:32] <cmatheson> hey guys, what's the best way to use an IMAP account w/ mutt? (in the past i always had POP so i used fetchmail/mutt... it seems mutt is also able to directly access pop/imap accounts but is that the preferred method?
[09:32] <Belutz> sambagirl, but if you have a lot of hdd space, try to install other window manager without removing gnome
[09:32] <ulaas> is it safe to upgrade the colony5 to whats latest?
[09:33] <bob2> [LethAL] : ? with the above info.
[09:33] <sambagirl> i have 2 gig a bytes
[09:33] <Belutz> sambagirl, if you satisfied, then you may remove gnome :)
[09:33] <HappyFool> ghb: hmm. what iso is this? breezy preview?
[09:33] <bob2> cmatheson: I'm quite happy with offlineimap dumping mail onto my disk, with mutt just reading it
[09:33] <Belutz> sambagirl, personally i prefer gnome
[09:33] <ghb> HappyFool: Think so. It's version 5.10
[09:33] <sambagirl> well i want to look at this desktop planetarium for KDE
[09:33] <[LethAL] > bob2, Will I still have said log after force-off'ing my PC and then rebooting it?
[09:33] <sambagirl> i think it is like starry knights
[09:33] <ghb> HappyFool: Should I try using 5.04 instead?
[09:33] <sambagirl> space thing
[09:33] <HappyFool> ghb: maybe try 5.04 instead; 5.10 isn't officially released yet
[09:33] <sepmike> you say 2.6.11-1-amd64-k8  is useless?
[09:34] <HappyFool> ghb: your telepath is obviously working well tonight
[09:34] <ghb> HappyFool: ^^ Indeed it is.
[09:34] <[LethAL] > sepmike, The whole 2.6.11 is
[09:34] <[LethAL] > brb
[09:34] <sambagirl> i suppose i can always go and reinstall gnome if i am not happy
[09:34] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[09:34] <Belutz> sambagirl, then try installing kubuntu-desktop
[09:34] <sambagirl> how?
[09:34] <sepmike> 2.6.12 is better?
[09:34] <ghb> HappyFool: Thanks for the help. I'll return if it doesn't work.
[09:34] <ulaas> is it safe to upgrade the colony5 to whats latest?
[09:34] <HappyFool> sambagirl: it's called kstars
[09:34] <cmatheson> bob2: hmm, that sounds cool.  i kind of prefer being able to keep the mail online (in case i need to access the mail at home), but also be able to filter the mail into seperate folders (for my mailing lists and what not)... anyway, is it even possible to do that kind of filtering online?  (i've done it w/ procmail, but that certainly seems like i would have to store it on-disk)
[09:34] <Belutz> sambagirl, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:35] <HappyFool> sambagirl: that is, the desktop planetarium is in the kstars package
[09:35] <EazyVG> how is the latest kernel, 2.6.12/13, with SATA-II and NCQ. Suported or not.
[09:35] <Belutz> sambagirl, and you could always run kde apps in gnome
[09:35] <ghb> HappyFool: It's this file, right? ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[09:35] <EazyVG> Can't find a word on this
[09:35] <GDorn> if I install kubuntu-desktop and decide I don't like it, can I just uninstall it and have my old settings still?
[09:35] <HappyFool> ghb: i think so
[09:35] <GDorn> I don't feel like losing them.
[09:35] <ghb> HappyFool: Righto.
[09:35] <HappyFool> ghb: there shouldn't be any md5sum errors with that one
[09:35] <tamale> getting a base system installation error...   is bad media most likely to blame?
[09:35] <ulaas> sambagirl, and you can always chat while downloading. You dont need  to run...
[09:36] <sambagirl> what i like is you not needing to reboot after everything
[09:36] <ccooke> tamala: new install?
[09:36] <tamale> yes
[09:36] <ccooke> tamale: the error happens when?
[09:36] <tamale> made it through partitioning fine
[09:36] <sambagirl> no no it lose the connectoin or something it restarted server connection
[09:36] <ccooke> tamale: Sounds like a media error. Can you burn a new copy of the disk?
[09:36] <tamale> lemme see if i can look at the log/bootstrap.log file to get more deatils
[09:36] <Belutz> sambagirl, HappyFool said the package name is kstars, try installing it and run it in gnome
[09:36] <sambagirl> let me try this  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:36] <tamale> yeah i just hate usin up cd after cd lol
[09:37] <HappyFool> EazyVG: i believe the ubuntu kernel is somewhat patched; i'm not sure that running stock kernels is such a good idea
[09:37] <sambagirl> it says it want to remove gnome stuff
[09:37] <sambagirl> it is in synaptik
[09:37] <bob2> [LethAL] : no, it will be regenerated
[09:37] <ccooke> tamale: it is actually possible to install from a corrupt disk if you have a network connection, but...
[09:37] <HappyFool> sambagirl: what does it want to remove?
[09:37] <EazyVG> HappyFool: inot plain vanilla, but the one with 5.10
[09:37] <sambagirl> a bunch of things
[09:37] <Belutz> sambagirl, it's ok
[09:37] <sambagirl> what is ok?
[09:37] <sambagirl> lol
[09:37] <bob2> cmatheson: I don't know what you mean; I use procmail to filter mail on the machine running the imap server
[09:37] <Belutz> sambagirl, lol :D
[09:37] <esac> /etc/acpi/sleep.sh doesn't do anything. anybody know why ?
[09:38] <ccooke> tamale: thankfully, Ubuntu is using the debian installer, which is *very* sendible. I've managed a complete and working install of Ubuntu from a cracked CD :-)
[09:38] <_jason> I just tried setting sound to play on an even in xchat and it doesn't work.  Do I have to make it use ESD somehow?
[09:38] <sambagirl> lol
[09:38] <Belutz> sambagirl, you are trying to install kubuntu-desktop right?
[09:38] <ulaas> is it safe to upgrade the colony5 to whats latest? Ok No answers. i did the upgrade and i will blame all of you out there if it breaks smthng. :)
[09:38] <sambagirl> do this do that remove this remove that haha
[09:38] <sambagirl> lol
[09:38] <sambagirl> i guess
[09:38] <Belutz> lol
[09:38] <tamale> if it's so sendible why does it keep erroring out
[09:38] <HappyFool> EazyVG: i don't understand your question
[09:38] <tamale> it's weird that there's so many media problems with linux..
[09:38] <Belutz> sambagirl, cancel it
[09:38] <sambagirl> i just wanted to look at the planaterium
[09:38] <tamale> fedora and gentoo were both havin problems too
[09:38] <ccooke> tamale: so many?
[09:38] <sambagirl> i saw it in synaptic
[09:38] <Belutz> sambagirl, try find kstars , and install it
[09:38] <tamale> maybe i just have bad media.. but i make copies of windows discs on this media and it always works
[09:38] <sambagirl> ok
[09:39] <ccooke> tamale: media problems are almost always with the *disks*
[09:39] <sambagirl> brb
[09:39] <Belutz> sambagirl, do not install the kubuntu-desktop yet
[09:39] <EazyVG> tamale: it's cause of licensing issues
[09:39] <sambagirl> ok brb
[09:39] <ulaas> tamale, which hardware?
[09:39] <tamale> it's going onto a super micro dual pentium III server
[09:39] <tamale> i was told to try gentoo
[09:39] <tamale> but it's too advanced for me
[09:39] <tamale> heh
[09:39] <ccooke> tamale: on a server? *shudder*
[09:39] <jowi> hi guys. "no soundcards found" after latest upgrade (hoary). alsa starts and reports [ok]  and restarts without errors. module snd_intel8x0 loaded.
[09:40] <tamale> does ubuntu have decent server software support?
[09:40] <ccooke> jowi: what chipset?
[09:40] <tamale> or should i be looking elsewhere
[09:40] <tamale> umm
[09:40] <ccooke> jowi: Intel ICH6?
[09:40] <tamale> http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/6010/SYS-6010L.cfm
[09:40] <sambagirl> anyone here ever hear of VistA? it is free medical system from NIH. They release it to public for medical people to use for consolidation of medical records and things.. i think now it might be cia trick to get into patients records.
[09:40] <ccooke> tamale: what sort of software?
[09:40] <sambagirl> now i thinking about it.
[09:40] <jowi> ccooke: good question. Gericom laptop...
[09:40] <sambagirl> but i think it runs on ubuntu
[09:41] <ccooke> Ubuntu has everything Debian has, which makes it a very solid server platform.
[09:41] <sambagirl> brb
[09:41] <HappyFool> sambagirl: i'm selling mind-control-ray-stopping tinfoil hats at just $50 a-piece
[09:41] <tamale> mainly just interested in runnin apache, an ftp server or two, and perhaps a couple game servers
[09:41] <esac> because the cia cares about your medical records why ?
[09:41] <jowi> ccooke: it always worked before so i never bothered checking which chipset was in use.
[09:41] <tamale> ccooke:  that's what i heard
[09:41] <graig> hello, i have a question about the evolution mail program in breezy.   is the Spam filtering option any better than it was in hoary?
[09:41] <Belutz> sambagirl, i hope it's not windows vista :D
[09:41] <ccooke> tamale: what are you going to run on this server?
[09:41] <sambagirl> no it's for unix.
[09:41] <tamale> mainly just interested in runnin apache, an ftp server or two, and perhaps a couple game servers
[09:41] <Belutz> sambagirl, i was just joking :)
[09:42] <esac> sambagirl: seriously, why do you think you (or any of us) are important enough to give a crap about our medical records?
[09:42] <gn0me> Should I be getting updates every day for almost everything (I'm in Breezy)
[09:42] <sambagirl> it is for actually another flavor i think. i forget. it was written in some obscure language like umm oh i forget/
[09:42] <ccooke> tamale: right. Ubuntu or Debian will be perfect for that.
[09:42] <sambagirl> well you should be.
[09:42] <tamale> awesome
[09:42] <jowi> ccooke: SiS something... should be 1039
[09:42] <tamale> well i'll try another burn
[09:42] <tamale> i guess
[09:42] <tamale> *shrug*
[09:42] <Belutz> :D
[09:42] <ccooke> did it work in Hoary before?
[09:42] <teh_pwner> sup people
[09:43] <sambagirl> if they get it, they can find out about when you had first getting herpies, and they put it on Xtra and Entertainment :D
[09:43] <[LethAL] > bob2, So how do I get the log if it's gonna be regenerated when I bot?
[09:43] <UltrA> hi, i'm back from reading slashdot now :D
[09:43] <jowi> ccooke: yes. up until yesterday when i updated
[09:43] <ccooke> teh_pwner: Soylent Green?
[09:43] <matrix> hrm i know a lethal :|
[09:43] <[LethAL] > Do you?
[09:43] <matrix> yeah
[09:43] <matrix> he's a owner
[09:43] <gn0me> Every week I have to download like 180mb of updates, just wondering if that's normal.
[09:43] <ccooke> jowi: right. what's in /proc/asound/cards
[09:43] <ccooke> jowi: ?
[09:43] <[LethAL] > I know a matrix too
[09:43] <[LethAL] > Not the same one... LOL
[09:43] <tamale> should i finalize the cd?
[09:43] <HappyFool> gn0me: maybe for breezy
[09:43] <tamale> perhaps i shouldn't?
[09:43] <gn0me> HappyFool: Yeah, ok.
[09:43] <jowi> ccooke: sis7012
[09:44] <mwright1night> wil kubuntu and edubuntu be released at the same time as ubuntu?
[09:44] <esac> anybody know how i can put my laptop to sleep ? /etc/acpi/sleep.sh doesn't do it
[09:44] <ccooke> tamale: usually you should.
[09:44] <matrix> the lethal i know is sometimes on ares
[09:44] <ZBlach> hi
[09:44] <UltrA> tamale: do you wanna right more crap on it later?
[09:44] <graig> does evolution have better spam filter in breezy?
[09:44] <[LethAL] > matrix, Not me then
[09:44] <ccooke> jowi: so alsa detects the card fine?
[09:44] <tamale> not really.. but i finalized the last one and it's not workin
[09:44] <Belutz> mwright1night, yes it will be
[09:44] <ZBlach> hi [LethAL] , i'm back again
[09:44] <esac> graig: evolution has whatever spam filter you install. if you are talking about the default, then no i believe it is still bogofilter
[09:44] <[LethAL] > What was your problem ZBlach
[09:44] <ZBlach> AP associatino
[09:44] <ZBlach> **tion
[09:44] <lllmanulll> graig, evolution's spam filter is fine, but you need to install spamassassin I think
[09:45] <[LethAL] > Card type?
[09:45] <ZBlach> Broadcom 4301
[09:45] <[LethAL] > Oh um... I can't remember :(
[09:45] <jowi> ccooke: seems like it. but alsactl can not load settings and alsamixer fails with error "snd_ctl_open failed for default: permission denied"
[09:45] <ZBlach> my wireless networking would blink in and out of existance
[09:45] <ccooke> jowi: very odd!
[09:45] <graig> is there anything better than spam assassin?,  it totally misses the exact same emails every day.  theres one that is for perscription medicines, and the body of the email is exactly the same every day, and spamassassin misses it every day.
[09:45] <ubuntu> hello all
[09:46] <ccooke> jowi: I've not seen that one before, I'm afraid.
[09:46] <PoTs> bob2:thx
[09:46] <jowi> ccooke: sudo alsamixer seems to work.
[09:46] <ccooke> jowi: what user are you running alsa as?
[09:46] <shad0w1e> question: how do I set up a DNS server???
[09:46] <nalioth> graig: train it
[09:46] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, how badly? would it say connected but not rx/tx anything?
[09:46] <ccooke> jowi: okay! maybe you've been dropped from the audio group
[09:46] <ZBlach> exactly that
[09:46] <ccooke> jowi: make a sec
[09:46] <jowi> ccooke: seems like permissions have changed since the upgrade...
[09:46] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, I got that on my rt2570 card... Now I'm using wired ethernet P
[09:46] <mwright1night> is ku/edu/u/buntu still on target for Oct 13?
[09:47] <mwright1night> Is the latest gnome 2.12 the versino shipping/
[09:47] <ccooke> jowi: ls -l /dev/snd
[09:47] <esac> i need help getting my laptop to go to sleep. ive tried pain meds, sleeping pills and /etc/acpi/sleep.sh and none of them seem to work
[09:47] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, It's not PCI is it?
[09:47] <nalioth> mwright1night: yes it is
[09:47] <ZBlach> unfortunately, I can't run a 40ft eth. cable
[09:47] <PoTs> does anyone know which repository i should use to install ncftp?
[09:47] <ccooke> jowi: (you know about not pasting here, right?)
[09:47] <ZBlach> no, its not PCI
[09:47] <ccooke> !tell jowi about paste
[09:47] <[LethAL] > PCMCIA or USB?
[09:47] <nalioth> !ncftp
[09:47] <ubotu> nalioth: I haven't a clue
[09:47] <shad0w1e> question: how do I set up a DNS server???
[09:47] <nalioth> !info !ncftp
[09:47] <mwright1night> so evolution 2.4 as well,  sounds cool,  ANyone hooked the evo upto LDAP to see if it works properly resolving names as you type the first 3 letters/
[09:47] <ZBlach> PCMCIA
[09:48] <nalioth> !info ncftp
[09:48] <ubotu> ncftp: (A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2:3.1.8-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 460 kB, Installed size: 1036 kB
[09:48] <UltrA> !info
[09:48] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, What I did with mine was unplug it, plug it back in and sudo ifup rausb0
[09:48] <ubuntu> when upgrade to Breeze from Hoary Xorg don't work!!!! anyone has the same problem?
[09:48] <Surak> seb128, there's something really wrong with latest librsvg - it's a revival of http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2799
[09:48] <UltrA> !info gmailfs
[09:48] <graig> how do i train spam assassin?  just mark the email as junk in evolution??
[09:48] <ubotu> gmailfs: (Use your GMail account as a filesystem), section universe/utils, is extra. Version: 0.3-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[09:48] <jowi> ccooke: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2743
[09:48] <cowbud> is it possible to install some extra library to get ffmpeg in multiverse to have access to the mp3 codec..
[09:49] <_jason> does anyone have sound wokring in xchat?
[09:49] <benkong2> _jason; I do
[09:49] <Answer> wokring: competitive stirfry
[09:49] <UltrA> _jason:why do you need sound in a chat client though?
[09:49] <ubuntu> anyone have problem when upgrading to Breeze?
[09:49] <[LethAL] > _jason, you have to give it sounds to paly ;)
[09:49] <[LethAL] > play*
[09:50] <_jason> UltrA:  I want it to beep if someone says my name, but I set the beep sound and when I preview it it doesn't play
[09:50] <ccooke> jowi: grep audio /etc/group
[09:50] <[LethAL] > _jason, it uses your PC's internal beeper speaker
[09:50] <mwright1night> What is likely to be lacking if I migrate from FC4 to unbuntu?
[09:50] <[LethAL] > Does your PC beep when you turn it on?
[09:50] <_jason> [LethAL] :  oh that may be why
[09:50] <benkong2> _jason; select beep on extea words and then select the sound in preferences
[09:50] <mwright1night> SO far on the surface ubuntu seems pretty good
[09:50] <[LethAL] > mwright1night, Well, you'll have better support :P
[09:50] <NsOmNiAc> ccooke thanks again for helping me this morning
[09:50] <ccooke> jowi: do you see yourself there?
[09:51] <rawiramdhan> what do I need to type if i wnat to connect to a ftp server trough mozilla firefox browser?
[09:51] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: no problem
[09:51] <jowi> ccooke: nope, wrong user listed
[09:51] <[LethAL] > rawiramdhan, ftp.<address>
[09:51] <ccooke> jowi: there you go.
[09:51] <[LethAL] > ftp://<address>*
[09:51] <ccooke> jowi: sudo gedit /etc/fstab and add yourself :-)
[09:51] <mwright1night> Will the next version be May?
[09:51] <_jason> benkong2, [LethAL]  ; no wait still makes no sense.  It should play the sound when I preview it.  yet I hear nothing D:
[09:51] <rawiramdhan> and where my username and password
[09:51] <jowi> ccooke: cheers for the help. so easy when you get some pointers ;)
[09:51] <kramer__> rawiramdhan: fireftp
[09:51] <mwright1night> Ubuntu probably has a tighter release schedule than FC4
[09:51] <[LethAL] > _jason, You get sound elsewhere?
[09:51] <_jason> [LethAL] :  yes in gnome and mplayer totem etc
[09:52] <Belutz> rawiramdhan, ftp://user:password@address
[09:52] <benkong2> _jason; do you hear sounds when you boot?
[09:52] <[LethAL] > Odd
[09:52] <rawiramdhan> thanx:D traying it right now
[09:52] <ccooke> jowi: no problem
[09:52] <benkong2> my sounds are in /usr/share/sounds/ those are what I use
[09:52] <GDorn> rawiramdhan:  you probably can leave off the password and have it ask you for one
[09:52] <benkong2> you may need to move them to ~/.xchat2/sounds/
[09:53] <_jason> benkong2:  ok I will try that, but I'd still expect to ehar something when i preview... I sthere someway to make sure it is using ESD?
[09:53] <benkong2> _jason; no it uses your configured sound
[09:54] <rawiramdhan> its ftp://username:password@adress
[09:54] <rawiramdhan> thanx evereyrone:D
[09:54] <benkong2> _jason; one other thing I did in the preferences there is a default directory set to your home .xchat I did change that to /usr/share/sounds
[09:54] <concept10> Anyone notice performance decrease after recent breezy updates?  sluggishness?
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> concept10 : prolly like 200 programs running in the background you dont need @ all
[09:55] <_jason> benkong2:  you have "automatic" set right, not "external program"?
[09:55] <daved> could someone tell me how to install ubuntu from debootstrap? i'm trying to do it inside a child xen domain
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> liek init
[09:55] <benkong2> _jason; yes automatic
[09:55] <olcan> help, I'm trying to login as root to install nvidia driver but the psswd doesn't check
[09:55] <ScatterBrain> When did Oo2 (1.9.7) get put into Universe?
[09:55] <MadpilotPPC> olcan, use sudo, and your own pw
[09:55] <_jason> benkong2:  let me try what you suggested and restart xchat then
[09:56] <scribbles> whats the command to list processes
[09:56] <benkong2> _jason; I use /usr/share/sounds/gnibbles/life.wav
[09:56] <olcan> let me see
[09:56] <MadpilotPPC> !tell olcan about sudo
[09:56] <concept10> lsuactiafner, nope, just rebooted after upgrade.. 2 major apps open, thunderbird and xchat
[09:56] <svref> Just trying Ubuntu for the first time for a friend's computer ... I gotta say this was the right choice for a total computer newbie.  He may actually understand how things work!
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> olcan : there are packages for nvidia, tho i prefer the nvidia driver from nvidia.com and no apt-get
[09:56] <benkong2> scribbles; ps
[09:56] <WiFiTux> what other webmail software is popular like openwebmail?
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> concept10 : ps auxww ; uptime ; free -m
[09:57] <scribbles> thx
[09:57] <olcan> when I type sudo a bunch of commands appear
[09:57] <alex_> hey. does anyone know how to mount another computers hard drive in ubuntu
[09:57] <alex_> over network
[09:57] <scribbles> alex_: you'll have to use samba for that I think
[09:57] <lsuactiafner> sudo sh nvidia-bleh
[09:57] <scribbles> www.ubuntuguide.org has the instructions
[09:57] <fizzle> hey for some reason when i add stuff to my ~/.Xdefaults file the settings arent being applied
[09:57] <_jason> benkong2:  still not working... oh well.  thanks for the info all the same
[09:57] <lsuactiafner> tell olcan about nvidia
[09:57] <nalioth> scribbles: please dont advise the guide
[09:57] <lsuactiafner> !tell olcan about nvidia
[09:58] <MadpilotPPC> olcan, see the msg ubotu sent you for information on sudo use
[09:58] <concept10> lsuactiafner,  14:57:38 up 39 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.73, 0.84...it has to be something
[09:58] <ZBlach> hrm. i've configured my wireless card using iwconfig. How can I save the settings permanently?
[09:58] <benkong2> hmmm, did you try moving  a sound from /usr/share/sounds to your home dir?
[09:58] <concept10> lsuactiafner, Mem:           440        246        193          0          7         89
[09:58] <lsuactiafner> concept10 : dont paste
[09:58] <lsuactiafner> concept10 : run top
[09:58] <benkong2> _jason; then chown user:user user is yourusername
[09:58] <lsuactiafner> and watch whats leeching your cpu
[09:58] <ghb> The installation hangs when booting the kernel. =(
[09:59] <GDorn> mmm.  free beer.
[09:59] <cmatheson> ZBlach: you can use /etc/network/interfaces
[09:59] <cmatheson> ZBlach: try man 5 interfaces
[09:59] <benkong2> _jason; sorry I couldn't help
[09:59] <mwaba> I have one question: After i press Alt+ctrl+F1 i change to the command thingy i then "cd" to my mp3 folder however, how do i start playing a mp3 file?
[09:59] <olcan> this is what I get sh: nvidia-bleh: No such file or directory
[09:59] <scribbles> nalioth: sorry, is it not complete?
[09:59] <_jason> benkong2:  was "then chown user:user user is yourusername" for me?
[09:59] <concept10> lsuactiafner, it has to be something regarding recent xorg update
[09:59] <benkong2> _jason; yes
[09:59] <GDorn> !beer
[09:59] <ubotu> GDorn: I haven't a clue
[09:59] <MadpilotPPC> !tell mwaba about mp3
[09:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell scribbles about ubuntuguide
[09:59] <_jason> benkong2:  chown the sound files?
[10:00] <scribbles> !tell scribbles about ubuntuguide
[10:00] <WiFiTux> anyone?
[10:00] <benkong2> _jason; just a test sound file that you move to your home dir.
[10:00] <ZBlach> so, there's no "Save All Settings Like This" command?
[10:00] <MadpilotPPC> olcan, "nvidia-blah" is unlikely to be the actual filename...
[10:00] <_jason> benkong2:  k
[10:00] <scribbles> ahh
[10:00] <nalioth> scribbles: if you'll look to your msg windows, you'll see it twice now
[10:00] <benkong2> _jason; when in preferences do you see default sound directory?
[10:00] <mwaba> I can already play mp3s when i'm in gnome, i just wanted to know how to do that when running a terminal session.
[10:00] <scribbles> !faq
[10:00] <ubotu> well, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[10:01] <lsuactiafner> mwaba : mplayer *
[10:01] <benkong2> _jason; sould say Sound files directory
[10:01] <vengeful> play mp3s in a terminal session?
[10:01] <lsuactiafner> mwaba : i use mp3blaster in the console
[10:01] <douglas> I want to build a module/driver for my wireless card, and when I run the make script it says: Makefile:8: /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build/.config: No such file or directory?
[10:01] <_john> what are some good .iso burning applications for mac os x?  my friend wants to use some live cds
[10:01] <nalioth> mwaba: mpg321
[10:01] <GDorn> *sigh*  vnc is not a terminal.  I'm a little worried about it being called that.
[10:01] <nalioth> johns^: let him use Disk Utility
[10:01] <WiFiTux> webmail software?
[10:01] <butcherbird> mwaba: either of those will work you can also play playlists
[10:01] <vengeful> dunno..isnt there a mac os channel to ask in?
[10:01] <mwaba> Erm... so what should i type? "mpg321" and then the name of the file?
[10:01] <cevizoglu> _john, OS X cannot properly burn an ubuntu linux iso
[10:02] <ZBlach> how to install a .tar.bz2 file?
[10:02] <benkong2> _jason; click on the beep event then in the lower part that says Sound file browse to /usr/share/sounds/gnibbles/life.wav
[10:02] <olcan> it worked, but now it tells me to close x sever, how do I do that?
[10:02] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, Why is that ?
[10:02] <_jason> benkong2:  yep just did that, no success
[10:02] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, u there? this is me shin_Gouki!! from linux this time :))))))))))
[10:02] <benkong2> _jason; that should make the sound appear next to the beep
[10:02] <lsuactiafner> ZBlach : tar -jxf file.tar.bz2 ; cd file-something-version ; ./configure & make & make install
[10:02] <cevizoglu> lllmanulll, not sure why, but data will be missing from part of the cd
[10:02] <_jason> benkong2:  it's there, but when I hit play I hear nothing
[10:02] <ghb> Can someone help me? The preinstallation hangs the computer (it's a laptop).
[10:02] <nalioth> cevizoglu: really?
[10:03] <vengeful> which laptop?
[10:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ZBlach about cli
[10:03] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, I guess it depends which software you use, I did suceed a lot of times (never failed, actually)
[10:03] <GDorn> ghb:  hangs where?
[10:03] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: congratulations, friend
[10:03] <lsuactiafner> !tell lsuactiafner about cli
[10:03] <olcan> MadpilotPPC, it worked, but now it tells me to close x sever, how do I do that?
[10:03] <cevizoglu> lllmanulll, which software are you using?  Disk Utility?  Toast?
[10:03] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth i did make it!! i have ixewm , now & mozilla & xchat, its coooool ^^
[10:03] <benkong2> _jason; and you closed xchat and restarted?
[10:03] <GDorn> !tell me about vnc
[10:03] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, both
[10:03] <Tortel> !tell me about toast
[10:03] <ghb> GDorn: I insert the CD, boots, press ENTER and then it says "Uncompressing the kernel... OK, booting the kernel."
[10:03] <cevizoglu> lllmanulll, and it worked for you with both?
[10:03] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: welcome to the next level
[10:03] <ja1> hi!
[10:03] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, Yes, IIRC
[10:03] <lsuactiafner> !tell lsuactiafner about toast
[10:03] <ghb> GDorn: After displaying that, nothing else happen...
[10:03] <mwaba> I tried the mpg321 command but it says "command not found"
[10:04] <nalioth> !botabuse
[10:04] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[10:04] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, I'm sure I tried with Disk Utility
[10:04] <_jason> benkong2:  still nothing
[10:04] <benkong2> _jason; can you use nautilus go to the /usr/share/sounds dir and play one of the wav files?
[10:04] <nalioth> mwaba: install it
[10:04] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, Not sure with Toast
[10:04] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i have to thank u , & also the very nice person : "kemik" he gave me a "low level" ubuntuu guide for SOHO systems with small HW, thx a lot :)
[10:04] <_jason> benkong2:  yes I hear it in totem
[10:04] <lsuactiafner> mwaba : apt-get install mpg321
[10:04] <Ubuntu> !wlan
[10:04] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Ubuntu
[10:04] <nalioth> OSX questions need to go to ##apple or #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:04] <Ubuntu> !wireless
[10:04] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[10:04] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : was checking those howtos, good to read them, even i learn things
[10:04] <benkong2> _jason;  that's strange
[10:04] <cevizoglu> lllmanulll, that's odd, Disk Utility would crash when I tried to burn a warty and a hoary iso... on 10.3.8 and 10.2.8
[10:05] <_jason> benkong2:  lol I jsut set it to use external program and it opened totem just fine
[10:05] <mwaba> Okie
[10:05] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, Weird, I never got this problem...
[10:05] <lsuactiafner> thanks nalioth
[10:05] <cevizoglu> lllmanulll, Toast 6 titanium would burn the iso but it would have major errors preventing software install from working
[10:05] <Ubuntu> where can i get wlan help?
[10:05] <mwaba> So, the command would be something like "mpg321 Will Smith - Switch.mp3"?
[10:05] <benkong2> _jason;  on the general tab do you have beep on extra highlighted words or beep on channel message checked?
[10:05] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, I guess you tried to download the same ISO again and check md5 ?
[10:06] <cevizoglu> lllmanulll, I burned the same iso from linux and it worked fine
[10:06] <_jason> beep on highlighted
[10:06] <_jason> benkong2:  beep on highlighted
[10:06] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, Curious... But I believe it is a local problem, since I never heard of this before
[10:06] <benkong2> _jason; ok is your _jason in there and check beep on channel message
[10:06] <GDorn> !tell me about NIS
[10:06] <Ubuntu> where can i get wlan help?
[10:06] <Ubuntu> where can i get wlan help?
[10:06] <nalioth> Ubuntu: watch your enter key, it seems to be stuck
[10:07] <_jason> benkong2:  ok just did that (_jason)
[10:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ubuntu about repeat
[10:07] <benkong2> _jason;
[10:07] <_jason> benkong2:  nope
[10:07] <GDorn> !tell me about ypbind
[10:07] <benkong2> _jason; leave it set and maybe when you reboot it'll work. That's all I did
[10:07] <_jason> benkong2:  I also don't get sound in flash player... it's probably related
[10:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell GDorn about msg the bot
[10:07] <_jason> benkong2:  ok, thanks again
[10:08] <benkong2> _jason; np wish I could help
[10:08] <nalioth> you guys quit sniping at ubotu. there is a list of his commands on the web
[10:08] <cmatheson> mwaba: you'd have to escape the spaces or put quotes around the filename after the mpg321
[10:08] <mwaba> Okie
[10:08] <mwaba> Thanks alot.
[10:08] <nalioth> !ubotu
[10:08] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:08] <ghb> What happens when you boot with "linux acpi=off"?
[10:09] <nalioth> you guys read the website and quit !guessing
[10:09] <sorush20> guys I can't log in as the admin user in samba in KDE, can someone help, it asks for the admin pass I type it in and it doesn't allow access..
[10:10] <mwaba> LOL! i now have a major problem, i know how to start the file but don't know how to stop ot.
[10:10] <GDorn> can ubuntu use NIS to handle logins controlled from a central debian server?
[10:10] <nalioth> mwaba: try 'q' or ctrl-c
[10:10] <mwaba> Thanks for that.
[10:10] <mwaba> Worked.
[10:11] <mwaba> Thanks alot guys.
[10:11] <mwaba> Bye
[10:12] <Answer> how to change the root password?  what if i'm not in sudoers group?
[10:12] <Answer> how to change the root password?  what if i'm not in sudoers group?
[10:13] <ScatterBrain> Answer: in Ubuntu you need to be amemeber of the 'adm' group to run sudo.
[10:13] <nalioth> Answer: dont repeat
[10:13] <butcherbird> Answer: no root password
[10:13] <kbrooks> butcherbird: you can set one
[10:13] <Answer> Can't I do some magical sudo su - type stuff?
[10:14] <butcherbird> Answer: but you shouldnt activate it
[10:14] <Answer> butcherbird:  It is activated already and I don't know it.
[10:14] <ScatterBrain> Answer you should be able to "sudo passwd", give your password and then change root's password from there.
[10:14] <Answer> hmm how about sudo passwd root
[10:15] <Shin_Gouki> hi i want to change the refreshrate of my icewm desktop, i did change "xorg.conf" what do i need to do now?
[10:15] <FhaeTon> Does Ubuntu 64 have SLI support or does the 1386 have SLI support?
[10:15] <Answer> How can I add myself to the adm group?
[10:15] <Answer> sudo usermod ?
[10:15] <Tortel> probably
[10:15] <esac> is software suspend 2 built into the default breezy install ?
[10:16] <tamale> gah!   now it's handing at "retrieving vim"
[10:16] <tamale> 6% on the installing the base system
[10:16] <tamale> hanging at
[10:17] <GDorn> is there a terminal server for ubuntu that isn't vnc?  I'm not real excited about the idea of having to stay logged in with a locked screen...  plus, it'd be nice to allow someone to be on my computer while remotely connected, like with terminal services under win2k3
[10:17] <sorush20> how do I enable root access for samba configuration
[10:17] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i restart the x?
[10:17] <ScatterBrain> Answer: you shoud be by default
[10:17] <[LethAL] > Shin_Gouki, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[10:17] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:17] <Shin_Gouki> thx  lethal!
[10:17] <Answer> ScaterBrain: If I weren't by default, how would I add myself to the adm group?  sudo usermod something?
[10:17] <Shin_Gouki> :)
[10:17] <tamale> that's it.. i'm convinced this cd-rom drive just sucks major arse
[10:18] <tamale> i'll hook up a different one for my install
[10:18] <ScatterBrain> Answer: don't think you can...
[10:18] <[LethAL] > tamale, install from iso files
[10:18] <tamale> i am lethal
[10:18] <[LethAL] > tamale, no, the ones on the hdd
[10:18] <esac> GDorn: ltsp.sourceforge.net
[10:18] <propagandhi> cant u add yourself with groupadd or something like that
[10:18] <ScatterBrain> Answer: without hacking anyway.
[10:18] <[LethAL] > tamale, as in expert install and then choose the iso-scan and load-iso (or something) modules
[10:18] <tamale> what, copy the iso's to the disk first?
[10:18] <tamale> hmm
[10:18] <FhaeTon> which do I choose for primary network interface: eth0: nVidia Corp 0057 or eth1: Marvell Tech Grp. Gigabit Ethernet 10/100?
[10:19] <propagandhi> or you can do it with webmin
[10:19] <GDorn> oh, I thought ltsp was just a way to boot over PXe.  I'll hafta take a closer look.  Thanks.
[10:19] <tamale> i just wish it'd work
[10:19] <tamale> this is the third distro i've tried
[10:19] <tamale> hah
[10:19] <[LethAL] > tamale, strangely enough, same here
[10:19] <esac> tamale: are you sure your computer isn't borked ?
[10:19] <[LethAL] > However I didn't know how to get the other 2 on the net
[10:19] <tamale> no, but how would i know
[10:19] <FhaeTon> admins must be out
[10:19] <tamale> i got pretty far with gentoo
[10:20] <tamale> but when i got to compiling my own kernel i realized i was in over my head and gave up
[10:20] <tamale> then tried fedory.. couldn't even get to the install screen
[10:20] <jowi> ccooke: was occupied in skype for awhile. adding the users to the audio group worked like a charm. no idea why they had dissappeared from there. thanks again.
[10:20] <tamale> fedora
[10:20] <esac> why were you compiling your own kernel? the genkernel should have been just fine
[10:20] <tamale> that's just it
[10:20] <tamale> the emerge kept bombin out
[10:20] <esac> ubuntu really is the best choice tho
[10:20] <Shin_Gouki> hi is there a apt-get command for installing firefox??
[10:20] <tamale> said it was supposed to create a symbolic link
[10:21] <tamale> and it wasn't
[10:21] <mahangu> Shin_Gouki, apt-get install firefox
[10:21] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[10:21] <tamale> so 'genkernel all' just failed immediately
[10:21] <mahangu> firefox is the debian package name
[10:21] <mahangu> oh wait
[10:21] <mahangu> not sure
[10:21] <mahangu> do an apt-cache search firefox first
[10:21] <tamale> ugh i'll have to look into it later i guess
[10:21] <tamale> thx everyone
[10:21] <tamale> peace
[10:21] <mahangu> nalioth, gotit
[10:21] <mahangu> :)
[10:21] <olcan> how can I check if I installed the nvidia driver correctlly, becuse I did the log out, control alt backspace, and there was no splash?
[10:22] <gearry> how can I get nautilus to provide me with the standard desktop icons: home, trash, etc.?
[10:23] <sorush20> how do I share a printer from my ubuntu machine to the windows machine.. I don't think I need samba, am I right or wrong?
[10:23] <gearry> they seem to be removed by default in ubuntu
[10:23] <lllmanulll> gearry, You mean on the desktop ?
[10:24] <fantasai> how do I put the computer on standby?
[10:24] <cmatheson> sorush20:you will need to share it w/ samba unless you install cups on your windoze box
[10:24] <lllmanulll> fantasai, Not sure your hardware can support this, but try Log out --> Suspend
[10:24] <ghb> If I install Ubuntu by booting it with parameter "linux acpi=off noacpi", does that mean that I will have no power manager on my laptop? 0.o
[10:24] <fantasai> lllmanulll: I have the option to "hibernate"
[10:24] <fantasai> lllmanulll: but that's not what I want
[10:25] <lsuactiafner> olcan : you cant install the driver without exiting X first.
[10:25] <gearry> lllmanulll: yes, on the desktop
[10:25] <fantasai> lllmanulll: I want to suspend with the RAM still going, not suspend to disk
[10:25] <lllmanulll> fantasai, What is the difference ?
[10:25] <gearry> but I just found the FAQ on that, so I may be all set
[10:25] <lsuactiafner> olcan : and you need to change /etc/X11/xorg.conf , look for nv change to nvidia
[10:25] <fantasai> lllmanulll: suspend to disk copies the RAM to the hard disk and shuts down completely
[10:25] <scribbles> Oct 03 16:25:09.131 [warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID (1000). You must fix this to proceed.
[10:25] <scribbles> how do I fix that?
[10:25] <[LethAL] > scribbles, did you install the package?
[10:26] <lllmanulll> fantasai, I see, sorry I don't know how to do that :)
[10:26] <scribbles> yea I installed from apt-get
[10:26] <[LethAL] > scribbles, it should run itself
[10:26] <scribbles> a few days ago, and I just typed tor in terminal
[10:26] <fantasai> lllmanulll: suspend will just shut down all computer processes and tell the computer to feed just enough power to keep the RAM going
[10:26] <[LethAL] > scribbles, it's a daemon, I have it running here
[10:26] <fantasai> lllmanulll: basically, the computer goes to sleep
[10:26] <lllmanulll> gearry, I don't know whether there is an easy option, but you can change this from gconf
[10:26] <scribbles> strange.
[10:26] <fantasai> lllmanulll: I just installed Ubuntu yesterday, I can't figure out where the power management is
[10:27] <fantasai> lllmanulll: before that, I ran gentoo, where I could just type 'apm -s' and the computer would go to sleep
[10:27] <scribbles> is there permissions i need to set on the dir?
[10:27] <lllmanulll> gearry, System tools --> GConf editor
[10:27] <[LethAL] > scribbles, It has its own user... just add 127.0.0.1 9050 as a SOCKS proxy in any app you want torifying, but don't bother with it on this irc server
[10:27] <lllmanulll> gearry, Then apps/nautilus/desktop
[10:27] <lllmanulll> gearry, Then tick the boxes you need
[10:27] <lllmanulll> gearry, got it ?
[10:28] <scribbles> well I need privoxy don't I?
[10:28] <lllmanulll> fantasai, have you tried installing apm on Ubuntu ?
[10:28] <[LethAL] > scribbles, It's a http proxy, you don't need it but it's highly recommended
[10:28] <[LethAL] > It blocks ads for one
[10:28] <scribbles> yea I use it in windows
[10:28] <scribbles> I'm new to linux
[10:28] <sorush20> should iran be able to produce reactor grade uranium, using ubuntu software
[10:29] <[LethAL] > sorush20, I doubt it
[10:29] <ghb> Does anyone know how well Ubuntu works with laptops?
[10:29] <scribbles> ghb: I installed it yesterday on my friends laptop just fine
[10:29] <lllmanulll> ghb, Quite well :) Depends which ones
[10:29] <scribbles> sound didn't auto recognize though
[10:29] <lllmanulll> ghb, If the laptop is actually supported, it just rocks
[10:29] <propagandhi> ghb: it works wonderfully with my current HP laptop, and worked perfectly with my Dell Inspiron 5150 when i had it
[10:29] <_jason> ghb:  ubuntu hoary is running fine right now on my inspiron 8200
[10:29] <benkong2> scribbles; I am running it on an HP zv5000 with no problems
[10:29] <olcan> lsuactiafner, how do I change that
[10:29] <butcherbird> ghb: ubuntu would be my distro of choice for a laptop
[10:29] <fantasai> lllmanulll, it's installed
[10:30] <ghb> Well, I'm facing some problems with my laptop...
[10:30] <fantasai> lllmanulll, but it's not built into the kernel
[10:30] <fantasai> lllmanulll, the kernel uses ACPI, I guess
[10:30] <lllmanulll> fantasai, Ah, I see, well then you need to recompile it :)
[10:30] <fantasai> but there has *got* to be a UI for this somewhere, it's just that basic
[10:30] <org__> what package do i need so my gnome tabs hilights or lets say flashes?
[10:30] <fantasai> uh, no
[10:30] <scribbles> lethal
[10:30] <scribbles> what does that mean though
[10:30] <fantasai> you use either ACPI or APM
[10:30] <fantasai> but not both
[10:30] <[LethAL] > Ya
[10:30] <scribbles> should I reinstall it?
[10:30] <benkong2> scribbles; try www.linuxonlaptops.com
[10:30] <lllmanulll> fanopanic, Or try to use acpi -- I'm not really familiar with standby modes
[10:30] <[LethAL] > No no, it should be allready running now
[10:30] <scribbles> how do i check
[10:31] <sorush20> how can I make an official ubuntu wiki
[10:31] <[LethAL] > Um... I forgot :(
[10:31] <lllmanulll> sorush20, You mean create a new page on the wiki ?
[10:31] <simonp> hi. how can i downgrade a packaged kernel? Or is it possible to keep 2 versions at the same time?
[10:31] <propagandhi> ps -aux | grep tor?
[10:31] <Shin_Gouki> cool! my ubuntu is only 580 MB WITH GUI :D
[10:31] <[LethAL] > That's the one, thanks propagandhi
[10:31] <[LethAL] > Shin_Gouki, well done!
[10:31] <propagandhi> not a worry, i was questioning myself there
[10:32] <[LethAL] > Hehe
[10:32] <org__> shall i ask it again?
[10:32] <Bnonny> query: lt_modem.ko and lt_serial.ko in linux-restricted-modules
[10:32] <sorush20> lllmanulll: yes..
[10:32] <Bnonny> why are they not in Breezy, but they are in Hoary?
[10:32] <Shin_Gouki> was damn hard work, also mozilla+firefox did take about 120 MB of this
[10:32] <ghb> Is it okay to disable ACPI when running Ubuntu on a laptop?
[10:32] <scribbles> 115       7221  0.0  2.0   8508  6648 ?        S    01:15   0:23 /usr/sbin/tor
[10:32] <scribbles>    ????
[10:32] <scribbles> is that it?
[10:32] <[LethAL] > I'd say so
[10:32] <lllmanulll> sorush20, Well I guess you just need to subscribe with a username/password, and you can create the page you want
[10:32] <org__> what package do i need so my gnome tabs hilights or lets say flashes?
[10:32] <Devin_> hi
[10:32] <lllmanulll> sorush20, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[10:32] <scribbles> so tor sets itself to run on boot?
[10:33] <[LethAL] > Yeah
[10:33] <Devin_> any1 knows if mono debugger works with the default breezy kernel?
[10:33] <scribbles> now I need to configure privoxy
[10:33] <kemik> org__:  i think that'll be implemented in breezy
[10:33] <[LethAL] > scribbles, you remember how to?
[10:33] <kemik> org__:  so just hold til the 13th
[10:33] <scribbles> no
[10:33] <propagandhi> kemik: you're right, it is implemented
[10:33] <scribbles> I remember there's a socks4a forwarding line that gets added
[10:33] <org__> kemcco_home, 13th of this month?
[10:33] <org__> kemik*
[10:33] <kemik> org__:  yes
[10:33] <[LethAL] > scribbles, yup
[10:34] <org__> and why i should wait
[10:34] <org__> it was working before
[10:34] <kemik> org__:  because it's not really stable yet
[10:34] <org__> kemik did you understand what i mean exactly
[10:34] <[LethAL] > scribbles, add "forward-socks4a / localhost:9050 ." to the top of /etc/privoxy/config
[10:34] <[LethAL] > :D
[10:35] <[LethAL] > With the dot, that's important
[10:35] <kemik> org__:  say if your nick is highlighted the gnome-taskbar for xchat will flash aswell?
[10:35] <scribbles> done
[10:35] <kemik> org__:  or an action occurs in a gaim window etc ?
[10:35] <scribbles> so now I just need to configure firefox and gaim and what not
[10:36] <[LethAL] > scribbles, yeah, there's info on the site for both them
[10:36] <[LethAL] > http://tor.eff.org
[10:37] <ghb> If I can't install ACPI on my laptop with Ubuntu, does that mean that my battery will be consumed in an instance?
[10:37] <olcan> lsuactiafner, it still appears nv
[10:38] <propagandhi> breezy is very close to stable now, I currently have no issues, although i know there are people who may
[10:39] <kemik> propagandhi:  yeah.. and i think it's better to recommend them to wait
[10:39] <[LethAL] > propagandhi, I don't have any either :D
[10:39] <scribbles> I installed breezy two days ago, first linux install I didn't erase within 2 hours
[10:39] <MikeStyle> hey guys, i updated my sources.list file to point to breezy instead of hoary and then did killall kde then when i tried to apt-get update it didnt work, so now im stuck without a display manager, so i have to run off a live cd. can anyone help? i think its my sources.list file.
[10:39] <kemik> only 10days
[10:39] <propagandhi> absolutely, i'm not recommending anyone to upgrade
[10:39] <kemik> ...
[10:39] <MikeStyle> i heard breezy was incredible
[10:39] <kemik> when you speak of the devil...
[10:39] <kemik> ;)
[10:39] <propagandhi> but i've been on breezy for months now
[10:39] <propagandhi> and it rocks
[10:39] <kemik> propagandhi:  living on the edge ;)
[10:40] <propagandhi> seriosuly, I'm normally very conservative when getting into any unstable branch
[10:40] <scribbles> lethal: have you setup SwitchProxy for firefox?
[10:40] <kemik> MikeStyle:  why did you killall kde?
[10:40] <Lars_G> short one.
[10:40] <propagandhi> but i havent had any major concerns at all with breezy
[10:40] <kemik> MikeStyle:  anyway, what's the error wehn trying to apt-get update? paste on pastebin
[10:40] <ghb> *yaaay* My first installation of Ubuntu just finished. ^^
[10:41] <[LethAL] > yay
[10:41] <Lars_G> if I "sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'shell'" it's more logical to use /root/.cpan than /home/<me>/.cpan isn't it?
[10:41] <kemik> propagandhi:  i tried somewhere in the middle of summer.. left me with a nonworking X
[10:41] <org__> It doesn't flash!
[10:41] <Lars_G> Seveas: Hi there, how's life?
[10:41] <ghb> Now I just need to download 422 updates... =/
[10:41] <MikeStyle> kemik, i read it on some instructions to killall kde
[10:41] <butcherbird> MikeStyle: if you had any repos added other than univers and multiverse you might need to comment them out
[10:41] <kbrooks> MikeStyle: do you remember the link?
[10:42] <MikeStyle> uhm let me check
[10:42] <propagandhi> kemik: thats tough, but i doubt you'd see that now
[10:42] <MikeStyle> i googled how to install from hoary to breezy
[10:42] <kbrooks> MikeStyle: which result did you choose?
[10:42] <mattyJ> is there anyway to open multiple totem players?
[10:42] <Buuyo^> Hey. Firefox seems to be bugged out :|
[10:42] <MikeStyle> uhm
[10:42] <MikeStyle> it was a forum kbrooks :(
[10:43] <MikeStyle> and the admin posted how to do it so i figured why not
[10:43] <Buuyo^> I just apt-get upgraded it, and now it has an XUL error when I try to download a file.
[10:43] <kbrooks> MikeStyle: ubuntu forums?
[10:43] <[LethAL] > Uh-oh... X update!
[10:43] <MikeStyle> kbrooks, im not sure, i think so
[10:43] <joaospinto> ppl i have a great problem!
[10:43] <org__> where can i find the configuration file of gnome?
[10:44] <Shin_Gouki> hi i need a GUI HTML Browser which uses LOW HW resources for Icewm , ideas?
[10:44] <joaospinto> when the synatic package manager searchs for ubuntu updates
[10:44] <joaospinto> it searches in the wrong website
[10:44] <[LethAL] > Shin_Gouki, Galeon?
[10:44] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: links2
[10:44] <[LethAL] > nalioth, he said GUI
[10:44] <Seveas> org__, .gnome .gconfd .gnome2 .gnome2-private (in your homedir)
[10:44] <joaospinto> i think that website has a space in the midle and he doesnt use the space
[10:44] <joaospinto> :S
[10:44] <Seveas> Shin_Gouki, dillo
[10:44] <nalioth> levis: links2 -g will open a graphical interface
[10:44] <joaospinto> anyone can help me?????
[10:45] <nalioth> [LethAL] : you should look into the capabilities of links2
[10:45] <Seveas> joaospinto, check your sources.list
[10:45] <org__> I can't find .gnome
[10:45] <joaospinto> how do i do that?
[10:45] <propagandhi> joaospinto: paste your sources.list file in the pastebin
[10:45] <Seveas> !tell joaospinto about sources
[10:45] <Shin_Gouki> seveeas do u plz have an apt command?
[10:45] <[LethAL] > nalioth, maybe I was being confused with lynx, but I thought they were both text-mode
[10:45] <kemik> 'lu Shin_Gouki
[10:45] <nalioth> [LethAL] : links2 has a graphical mode
[10:45] <joaospinto> how do i open the sources.list
[10:45] <kemik> any luck with getting yuor system running?
[10:45] <joaospinto> where is it?
[10:45] <org__> http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/docs/javadoc/org/gnu/gnome/App.html#flash(String) see here Seveas do you know what does that means exactly pls??
[10:45] <Seveas> Shin_Gouki, apt-get install dillo
[10:45] <[LethAL] > nalioth, you just said LD
[10:45] <joaospinto> /etc/sources.list ?
[10:46] <propagandhi>  '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:46] <org__> Seveas, and my gnome doesn't do the flash thingy, when someone sent me msg in the gaim, it doesn't even flash to me.
[10:46] <kemik> org__:  do you know how to code Java ?
[10:46] <nalioth> [LethAL] : is it bigger than a breadbox?
[10:46] <joaospinto> tkz!!
[10:46] <Seveas> org__, that's new in 2.12
[10:46] <org__> kemik no
[10:46] <Seveas> so you need breezy for that
[10:46] <org__> Seveas, yes it's new
[10:46] <kemik> org__:  its a api for some class someone published
[10:46] <FarrisG> Can anyone help me get wireless working with 5.10?
[10:46] <[LethAL] > Scuse me nalioth?
[10:46] <kemik> org__:  are you running Breezy ?
[10:46] <org__> whats the new Seveas ??
[10:47] <Seveas> org__, that page is for java programmers, so useless for you
[10:47] <org__> kemik, what is breezy for gods sake
[10:47] <nalioth> [LethAL] : i have no idea what you're talking about
[10:47] <Seveas> org__, that's new in 2.12 <-- the flashing
[10:47] <org__> Seveas, do you know what i mean..
[10:47] <kbrooks> MikeStyle: this: http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=65368 ?
[10:47] <org__> Seveas, i mean i want if someone sent me msg on gaim it flashes like old days on fc4
[10:47] <Seveas> org__, do you even know it yourself?
[10:47] <kemik> org__:   you need Breezy (or the new Gnome release) for the flashing
[10:47] <pr0tocol> what's going on everyone?
[10:47] <benplaut> nalioth: bot
[10:47] <org__> kemik, in fc4 it's the new gnome there?
[10:47] <org__> Seveas, I need to know that someone msgs me:(
[10:47] <joaospinto> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[10:47] <joaospinto> deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[10:47] <org__> thats all
[10:47] <benplaut> nalioth: are you a bot?
[10:47] <kemik> org__:  no, that would be anohter windowmanager
[10:47] <joaospinto> i think it opens without the
[10:48] <nalioth> benplaut: no i'm just lost
[10:48] <Seveas> org__, then upgrade to breezy
[10:48] <Seveas> see the topiv
[10:48] <joaospinto> without the space
[10:48] <Seveas> topic
[10:48] <org__> Seveas, how can i do that
[10:48] <Seveas> see the topic <----------
[10:48] <org__> kemik, i'm in gnome now, how do you want me to be in another windowmanager
[10:48] <joaospinto> ppl anyone knows why??
[10:48] <kemik> jeez
[10:48] <org__> Seveas, i'm too noob for that, i want some one to feed-help me
[10:48] <org__> spoon-feed
[10:48] <org__> haha
[10:48] <Seveas> org__, that page does that
[10:48] <pr0tocol> joaospinto, what's the problem you're having?
[10:48] <thechitowncubs> who here runs at 1600x1200?
[10:48] <Seveas> joaospinto, because that's how repositories work
[10:48] <org__> Seveas, and do you recommend me to upgrade to breezy
[10:49] <org__> breezy = a window manager that is??
[10:49] <kbrooks> no
[10:49] <joaospinto> it always gives me an error when it searches in the sources website
[10:49] <kemik> i'd recommend yuo to wait til it's stable
[10:49] <org__> kemik do u recommend me that?
[10:49] <kemik> ie: on the 13th
[10:49] <pr0tocol> thechitowncubs, I run a higher res... :P
[10:49] <joaospinto> seveas how can i correct the prob?
[10:49] <kbrooks> breezy = next ver of ubuntu
[10:49] <butcherbird> org__: breezy = ubuntu 5.10
[10:49] <thechitowncubs> pr0tocol, what ??
[10:49] <org__> kemik, ok but why in fc4 the tabs flashes and here no?
[10:49] <org__> butcherbird, AHA!
[10:49] <kemik> org__:  and i'd recommend you to read *alot* about linux and ubuntu in particular
[10:49] <Seveas> joaospinto, go to winehq and get the correct sources.list lines...
[10:49] <org__> butcherbird, man u less words but you helpful
[10:49] <joaospinto> is there any alternative or something to that website?
[10:49] <org__> butcherbird, so what i'm using now??
[10:49] <pr0tocol> joaospinto, then it could be that the source doesn't exist anymore
[10:49] <kemik> org__:  probably hoary (5.04)
[10:50] <org__> kemik what i didnt understand this
[10:50] <pr0tocol> thechitowncubs, I'm using a higher resolution
[10:50] <org__> kemik how did u know
[10:50] <org__> u magical
[10:50] <butcherbird> sorry server prob
[10:50] <joaospinto> winehq? this isnt related with winehq :P its related with synaptic packages
[10:50] <thechitowncubs> pr0tocol, ya what is it
[10:50] <propagandhi> I am glad Opera finally went free. Is anyone else using it
[10:50] <kemik> are you trolling ?
[10:50] <bipolar> joaospinto, even the wine in those repos is out of date
[10:50] <GhostFreeman> Someone have ubotu tell me about /etc/fstab
[10:50] <joaospinto> protocol i wrote it just a few time ago
[10:50] <org__> kemik It's not about the ubuntu believe me, it's only the WM
[10:50] <joaospinto> maybe
[10:50] <[LethAL] > propagandhi, I probably would but I'm on Gnome
[10:50] <bipolar> joaospinto, might as well build your own from source
[10:50] <joaospinto> what is ur source?
[10:50] <org__> not trolling im joking for sense of homer
[10:50] <thechitowncubs> propagandhi, no it doesn't look good in gnome for me
[10:50] <pr0tocol> thechitowncubs, 1792x1344
[10:50] <propagandhi> oh, damn
[10:50] <shawnz> <3 Seveas for gksu-1.3.0-1ubuntu10seveas1
[10:50] <shawnz> =p
[10:50] <thechitowncubs> what size of a monitor?
[10:51] <sambagirl> anyone familiar if openwebmail will run under ubuntu?
[10:51] <org__> its not about breezy
[10:51] <org__> its about the wm
[10:51] <bipolar> joaospinto, I installed the wine from the wine.sf.net repo and it's the same version as the ubuntu universe one.
[10:51] <org__> or the gaim
[10:51] <pr0tocol> thechitowncubs, 19 inches
[10:51] <org__> im not sure
[10:51] <thechitowncubs> Seveas, what is different in your version of gksu
[10:51] <bipolar> joaospinto, I'm building the latest from source now.
[10:51] <kemik> org__:  and gnome is a newer version in breezy
[10:51] <joaospinto> can u copy your sources.list file?
[10:51] <Seveas> shawnz, how the *@@! did you know that?
[10:51] <org__> i cant install gnome in hoery?
[10:51] <thechitowncubs> pr0tocol, holy shit, i have a 19 inch and i tried to run at 1600 but it was really hard on my eyes
[10:51] <org__> the newer gnome
[10:51] <scribbles> heh, you can set APT to use Tor
[10:51] <shawnz> Seveas, just saw it in my apt-get, so i looked at changelog.Debian.gz
[10:51] <propagandhi> i'm gonna make a bold statement, but i like opera's mail client better than thunderbird
[10:51] <[LethAL] > thechitowncubs, I have a 19" and I use 1280x960 :)
[10:51] <NsOmNiAc> any way to quickly troubleshoot why you can no longer play mp3's when I was able to before ? I don't remember making any changes but other sounds work fine
[10:51] <org__> kemik how can i know which version of gnome i have?
[10:51] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, re-enabled the semi-transparency thing -- i like it :)
[10:51] <pr0tocol> thechitowncubs, heh
[10:52] <joaospinto> bipolar can u copy me ur sources.list ?
[10:52] <shawnz> indeed
[10:52] <GNULinuxer> 'ubotu Breezy
[10:52] <thechitowncubs> maybe its because it was only able to perform at 60hz
[10:52] <shawnz> that transparency thing ruled
[10:52] <pr0tocol> thechitowncubs, mine is working on 60 Hertz as well
[10:52] <kemik> org__:  google is your friend... or someone else in this channel perhaps
[10:52] <Seveas> org__, system -> about gnome
[10:52] <shawnz> anyway
[10:52] <org__> Seveas, thanks
[10:52] <joaospinto> ups
[10:52] <joaospinto> lol
[10:52] <bipolar> deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[10:52] <pr0tocol> lol @ kemik
[10:52] <joaospinto> those lines are for wine
[10:52] <bipolar> pos
[10:52] <joaospinto> yeh
[10:53] <org__> 2.10.0
[10:53] <joaospinto> shall i uncomment the other lines?
[10:53] <GhostFreeman> I need help mounting an AF partition
[10:55] <Shin_Gouki> kemik! ur from france? lu?= salut? ur LOW level install guide was COOOL!! :)
[10:56] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  nah im not french ;)
[10:56] <Shin_Gouki> kemik ur guide did rock! i create a 580 MB system with 120 MB size taken from mozilla& mozilla firefox!!
[10:57] <kbrooks> kemik: link to the guide
[10:57] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  nice to hear :) i hope it's not too much load time either
[10:57] <nalioth> kemik: are you withholding from the wiki?
[10:57] <kemik> no no
[10:57] <kemik> i didnt write it
[10:57] <kemik> settle down
[10:58] <kemik> http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html
[10:58] <Shin_Gouki> kemik, xchat is fast , terminals also fast...now i need a fast browser.. ...somemone said: dillo but its... NOt what i need
[10:58] <kbrooks> kemik: that aside, please link
[10:58] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  lynx or links would be fast ;)
[10:58] <kemik> but only textbased :(
[10:58] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: links2
[10:58] <cagliostro> hi all, where can I find the cursor theme of gnome used by default on ubuntu?
[10:58] <Shin_Gouki> links2?
[10:58] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: links2 offers graphics
[10:58] <Shin_Gouki> i try apt!
[10:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Shin_Gouki about sources
[10:59] <GhostFreeman> I am trying to write a substantially large tarball to an AF partition, and it keeps telling me "Permission Denied"
[10:59] <GhostFreeman> how do I resolve this?
[10:59] <Shin_Gouki> is links2 better then dillo?
[11:00] <rawiramdhan> How can I change and save my xterm color?
[11:01] <rawiramdhan> I'm using ion3, I dont know if this changes the config file
[11:02] <cagliostro> anyone can help about ubuntu cursor theme?
[11:03] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: use them both
[11:03] <rawiramdhan> How can I change and save my xterm color?
[11:03] <rawiramdhan> I'm using ion3, I dont know if this changes the config file
[11:03] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, no i need more :/ just view a few wikipedia pages...
[11:03] <michael__> How do I install Java on Ubuntu
[11:03] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: can you compile?
[11:03] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, firefox is nice...but the rendering eninge is too slow...
[11:03] <nalioth> ubuntulog: tell michael__ about javadeb
[11:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell michael__ about javadeb
[11:04] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth,  yes i can compile
[11:04] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: then visit www.twibrightlabs.com and get the source for links2. when you configure it, enable graphics and javascript
[11:05] <DJLarZ> I have a problem: I can't access the internet from ubuntu.. I run a multi-operating system, and it works fine on WinXP. I use a regular ethernetcord. I have tried to input "eth0" in the network thingie in ubuntu, but it still doesnt work, even after I set up a static ipadress. can someone please help???
[11:06] <DJLarZ> + all the dns servers, dhcp and stuff
[11:06] <rawiramdhan> My xterm freezes a lot, any1 with the same problem?
[11:06] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , that is nice :) so links2 is a kind of a "scalable" browser?
[11:06] <rawiramdhan> xterm = xmms
[11:06] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: idk scalable, but it is very light weight
[11:06] <Shin_Gouki> excatly what i need :)
[11:07] <Shin_Gouki> how do i uninstall software with apt??
[11:07] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: right click on the item and select "remove"
[11:08] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , i need the command promt i installed dillo and want now to remove it
[11:08] <mhz> hi all
[11:08] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth ( my first) linux unitsall ^^
[11:08] <mhz> could someone give me a hand an tell me what is I am doing wrong in a try to install from local netboot???
[11:08] <org__> how can i force to kill something? an app is like stuck and i can't close it, in gnome
[11:09] <QMario> Hello everyone!!! :)
[11:09] <mhz> org__: ps ax   and then you kill the #
[11:09] <QMario> Hello Seveas!!! :)
[11:09] <mhz> could someone give me a hand an tell me what is I am doing wrong in a try to install from local netboot???
[11:09] <[LethAL] > org__, add the force quit button to the panel :P
[11:09] <_jason> org__:  or run "xkill" in terminal
[11:09] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: "sudo apt-get remove dillo"
[11:10] <Shin_Gouki> naloith , thx i will remember it!
[11:10] <mhz> so far I can succesfully assign IP BUT I can't receive the necessary packages
[11:10] <propagandhi> does the CTRL+ALT+ESC function work in gnome?
[11:10] <nalioth> ubotu tell Shin_Gouki about apt
[11:10] <org__> It was work for me before the Ctrl+alt+ESC
[11:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Shin_Gouki about synaptic
[11:10] <org__> but now it doesn't work
[11:10] <QMario> Nalioth, I still have that Java problem. :'(
[11:10] <org__> i don't know why
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> apt-cache search wine doesnt give me an option to install wine? but i added deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/ to the sources and did an update
[11:10] <org__> why CTRL+ALT+ESC doesn't work:(
[11:10] <nalioth> QMario: i'm still lost
[11:10] <QMario> I just re-installed it, but it still can't find my Java archives.
[11:10] <_jason> org__:  I don't think that combination does anything by default
[11:11] <rawiramdhan> i want to change my xterm config how do I do that?>
[11:11] <nalioth> QMario: archives or the java runtime?
[11:11] <propagandhi> it definitely does something in kde by default i was interested to know if it does in gnome
[11:11] <QMario> Nalioth, archives.
[11:11] <rawiramdhan> i want to change my xterm config how do I do that?>
[11:11] <khermans> Anyone have suggestions for a Linux encrypted file system?
[11:11] <nalioth> QMario: if you want to run something, it needs to be in your $PATH
[11:11] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i installed mozilla and afterwards mozilla firefox if i type : ... remove mozilla , will mozilla firefox still work?
[11:12] <[LethAL] > Shin_Gouki, yes
[11:12] <QMario> Java works fine, but when trying to compile programs with TurtleGraphics or BreezySwing, it can't do it.
[11:12] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[11:12] <Shin_Gouki> lethal
[11:12] <lsuactiafner> i dont think it will..
[11:12] <propagandhi> QMario: what error do you get
[11:12] <lsuactiafner> firefox uses mozilla libs and files..
[11:12] <nalioth> QMario: set your environment variables in your ~/.bashrc
[11:12] <QMario> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: TurtleGraphics/StandardPen
[11:12] <[LethAL] > Well I don't have Mozilla installed
[11:13] <DJLarZ> is cross-over office open source???
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> [LethAL]  : maybe not binaries but the libs
[11:13] <Shin_Gouki> ok trin now the links2 thing
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> locate -i mozilla
[11:13] <propagandhi> QMario: doesnt that mean its missing an important class, or one that needs to be compiled beforehand
[11:13] <Answer> exit
[11:13] <propagandhi> DJLarZ: no it isnt
[11:13] <[LethAL] > lsuactiafner, It's deps don't seem to include anything with mozilla in ;(
[11:13] <[LethAL] > ;)*
[11:14] <propagandhi> but you can get it free
[11:14] <QMario> Propagandhi, I don't know.
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> well, i'll be very surprised if it works after you remove mozilla
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> about that wine problem of mine....
[11:14] <WikiFanatic> I LOVE Ubuntu.
[11:14] <WikiFanatic> :-)
[11:14] <mhz> could someone give me a hand an tell me what is I am doing wrong in a try to install from local netboot???
[11:14] <mhz> so far I can succesfully assign IP BUT I can't receive the necessary packages
[11:15] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, did u misspelled?: www.twibrightlabs.com no respond for mee?
[11:15] <coobra> is there a operator here
[11:15] <QMario> Nalioth, so how would I set my environmental variables?
[11:15] <Shin_Gouki> ask
[11:15] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: my bad http://links.twibright.com/
[11:15] <WikiFanatic> I mean, I love Ubuntu. It's the only Linux I like
[11:15] <WikiFanatic> Seveas is an op right now it seems
[11:15] <nalioth> coobra: what did you need?
[11:15] <coobra> that has anything with tha mirror bizzniz :P
[11:16] <QMario> Seveas, are you here right now?
[11:16] <nalioth> coobra: what mirror business?
[11:16] <nalioth> coobra: mirror business?
[11:17] <coobra> nalioth:  i want to be a mirror :P
[11:17] <nalioth> coobra: polish yourself
[11:17] <propagandhi> coobra: too bad you were born a human
[11:17] <QMario> Nalioth?
[11:17] <fizzle> ttis the 586 architexture for pentium4?
[11:17] <coobra> nalioth:  what do yo say :/
[11:18] <nalioth> QMario: i'm not up on what you need to put in your ~/.bashrc, but you need to put some paths so your build environments can find the java it seeks
[11:18] <nalioth> coobra: i dont understand what you want
[11:18] <nalioth> fizzle: 686
[11:18] <QMario> Nalioth, all I need is the CLASSPATH. I just need a format.
[11:19] <coobra> nalioth:  i want to share the ubuntu to ppl
[11:19] <nalioth> QMario:
[11:19] <kbrooks> QMario: /path:/path/foo:/path/foo/bar
[11:19] <QMario> Yes...
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> then bittorent
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> coobra
[11:19] <nalioth> "export CLASSPATH=/path/you/like"
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> be a tracker?
[11:19] <coobra> nalioth:  i hawe a good connection (speed on internet)
[11:19] <QMario> Kbrooks, what do "foo" and "bar" mean?
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> bittorent coobra
[11:19] <nalioth> coobra: then get a torrent
[11:20] <nalioth> coobra: check here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil
[11:20] <fizzle> nalioth, which arch would i d/l for p4? im trying to install mplayer and theres 586, and 386
[11:20] <coobra> nalioth:  i hawe a universety connection and want to help this fine dist of linux :)
[11:20] <adrian_> hi, from where I can download sun-j2sdk1.5debian package? "sudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5debian" doesn't work [didn't find this package] 
[11:20] <nalioth> coobra: 686
[11:21] <kbrooks> QMario: exaples
[11:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adrian_ about javadeb
[11:21] <fizzle> there is no 686
[11:21] <[LethAL] > adrian_, this isn't debian, remove that part
[11:21] <propagandhi> adrian_: u can install the free java sdk or you can download and install the self extracting binary from java.sun.com
[11:21] <nalioth> propagandhi: we have ubuntu debs available
[11:21] <lsuactiafner> fizzle : its a much better idea to compile the mplayer cvs
[11:21] <propagandhi> yeah, but some people prefer the official, thats the only reason i suggested such
[11:22] <nalioth> propagandhi: these are official (and illegal)
[11:22] <fizzle> lsuactiafner, yeah i know but i want to save time heh
[11:22] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, do u have any experience with beagle?
[11:22] <lsuactiafner> fizzle : trust me on this, as someone sorta involved in mplayer, you dont want to run packages, the CVS version is more stable and supports more
[11:22] <FhaeTon> ok I called stupid ASUS and they said I need Linux chipset drivers but I have no clue how to make a disc loadable for PC when all I have is a Mac Laptop
[11:22] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: no i do now
[11:22] <taomaster> do u think that with the new release they will have java installed?
[11:22] <pierreb> i seek info about openssl and perl
[11:23] <nalioth> java is illegal to distribute. so no free distro will have it by default
[11:23] <GDorn> any suggestions for getting a turtle beach santa cruz working with alsa?
[11:23] <taomaster> java is not in the open-soucre world?
[11:23] <WikiFanatic> nalioth: it is?
[11:23] <Shin_Gouki> haha
[11:23] <MikeStyle> is anyone here running breezy and has a good sources.list file?
[11:24] <Shin_Gouki> no java chat here get informed on otherplaces
[11:24] <fizzle> should i use aptitude purge remove mplayer-386 to remove mplayer
[11:24] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: heh you're funny
[11:24] <Shin_Gouki> and read a LOT of sun policys :P
[11:24] <ghb> "I got my Ubuntu working..." Well, so far it is. ^^
[11:24] <nalioth> fizzle: that will work
[11:24] <pierreb> i try to install SSLeya sur brezzy .....
[11:24] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , i m more then u think ;)
[11:24] <fizzle> ok
[11:25] <fizzle> ill build from source
[11:25] <nalioth> pierreb: is there anyone in #ubuntu-fr?
[11:25] <nalioth> fizzle: make sure you enable the gui
[11:25] <fizzle> nalioth, i know :)
[11:25] <fizzle> im jut lazy lol
[11:25] <fizzle> hate compiling form source
[11:26] <Shin_Gouki> no thats the fun part about linux ^^
[11:26] <nalioth> fizzle: mplayer is one program that can stand to be personally compiled (make sure you have all your libs you want it to use)
[11:26] <coobra> nalioth: do you know if you will hawe any swedish mirrors up
[11:26] <nalioth> coobra: join #ubuntu-nun
[11:27] <lsuactiafner> fizzle : not that much effort and it will be less effort to have a decent compile than having problems with the release and package
[11:27] <mhz> anyone ever set up a TFTP boot/install??
[11:27] <HrdwrBob> yeah
[11:27] <lsuactiafner> fizzle : apt-get build-dep mplayer
[11:27] <[A] ndy80> one question: when I installed gxine it registered with mozilla too. I don't want it to be integrated with mozilla, how can i fix it? thanks!
[11:27] <QMario> Kbrooks, what is the colon for in " /path:/path/foo:/path/foo/bar" ?
[11:27] <lsuactiafner> thats usefull tho.
[11:27] <HrdwrBob> mhz: you just need a DHCP server and (iirc) tcftpd
[11:28] <lsuactiafner> i have a script to download compile and isntall mplayer every night
[11:28] <nalioth> kbrooks: the colon seperates paths
[11:28] <mhz> HrdwrBob: yes, indeed. I successfully get to assign IP (via dhcp server) but it times out in the TFTP......
[11:29] <HrdwrBob> you have to specify the tftp server in the dhcp server
[11:29] <teh_pwner> ok i need help installing "gift-ares-0.2.2.tar.bz2" anybody can help me ?
[11:29] <HrdwrBob> the tftp server has to be running
[11:29] <HrdwrBob> and it has to be running a server which supports the necessary extensions
[11:29] <mumbles> anything else ihave to do to be able to log into my ubntu using ssh ?
[11:30] <virgule> i am doing dist-upgrade to breezy and I see a lot of locale settings failure like this: http://pastebin.com/381821   whats up?
[11:30] <HrdwrBob> sudo apt-get install ssh
[11:30] <mumbles> done that one HrdwrBob
[11:30] <teh_pwner> i need help installing "gift-ares-0.2.2.tar.bz2" :s
[11:30] <HrdwrBob> then that's it
[11:30] <LokeDK> Is there a tool to convert error characters in files? I mean..  should be  .. but some weird happened when the file got created.. so all the "special characters" are wrong
[11:30] <butcherbird> mumbles: i would change the default port from 22, but Im paraniod
[11:30] <HrdwrBob> virgule: they are fine, ignore them for now
[11:31] <mhz> HrdwrBob: you lost me a bit. I apt-got tftpf-ha, set up dhcpd.conf and that was it.
[11:31] <HrdwrBob> mhz: you have to configure tfpd-ha
[11:31] <virgule> ok thx.. now this: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:31] <Seveas> LokeDK, iconv
[11:31] <HrdwrBob> and put the boot files in the right place
[11:32] <jack-> i have an odd question..i just played some "uqm" and my mouse pointer disappeared..i'm in a working terminal window
[11:32] <jack-> what command do i need to get x11 to display the mousepointer again?
[11:33] <invalid|lappy> how would I recursively chmod directories to 755, but leave the files inside the way they are
[11:33] <nalioth> seveas
[11:33] <lsuactiafner> teh_pwner : tar -jxf file.tar.bz2 ; cd file-something-version ; ./configure & make & make install
[11:33] <mhz> HrdwrBob: I have a symlink to /var/lib/tftpboot/ubuntu from /var/www/
[11:34] <mhz> HrdwrBob: but that's all tftp congif I've found :)
[11:34] <HrdwrBob> mhz: you may have to restart xinetd
[11:35] <mhz> and the ubuntu dir is actually a mount point of ubuntu-cd
[11:35] <mhz> HrdwrBob: xinetd??
[11:35] <Kaparen> I having problems getting my monitor to display 85hz, right now it can display 60 and 70hz. suggestions?
[11:36] <mhz> I have no xinetd
[11:36] <teh_pwner> lsuactiafner, ya lost me buddy
[11:36] <HrdwrBob> mhz: or inetd
[11:36] <HrdwrBob> you need one of them to run tftpf
[11:36] <shivi> I am not able to find the package libdvdcss2 waht repo?
[11:37] <khermans> shivi, add universe and multiverse
[11:37] <mhz> HrdwrBob: ah, yes, I have restarted dhcp and tftp
[11:37] <mhz> many times
[11:37] <shivi> I did
[11:37] <shivi> it won't show up
[11:37] <jack-> please..anyone..how can i get my mousepointer back? :<
[11:37] <shivi> let me show u in paste bin
[11:37] <khermans> shivi, you in hoary?
[11:38] <shivi> breezy
[11:38] <khermans> shivi, yeah its not there for me in breezy
[11:38] <shivi> hmm
[11:38] <shivi> so what rpo to use
[11:38] <shivi> I can't play dvds
[11:38] <shivi> :(
[11:39] <khermans> shivi, try using hoary repos
[11:39] <virgule> Please take a look and say what you think is the best thing to do:   http://pastebin.com/382058
[11:39] <shivi> which one...
[11:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shivi about dvd
[11:40] <grndslm> ubotu: tell grndslm about dvd
[11:40] <Shin_Gouki> hi! how do i paste text into my terminal window(icewm) ?
[11:41] <jack-> is there any way to make x11 display my mousepointer again?
[11:41] <jack-> something like restart gdm, whatever?
[11:41] <jack-> please
[11:41] <fahren> Hi!
[11:41] <grndslm> how 'bout ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:42] <EggMan> does the ubuntu installer let me partion my drives without reformating them?
[11:42] <vengeful> yes
[11:42] <khermans> EggMan, yes, but you probably want the latest Colony 5 CD
[11:42] <khermans> the preview release has issues
[11:43] <EggMan> So i can resize a drive?
[11:43] <khermans> EggMan, yes
[11:43] <grndslm> you can even resize ntfs partitions?
[11:43] <EggMan> ok im using 5.04
[11:43] <khermans> EggMan, oh you should try breezy
[11:43] <EggMan> Hoary
[11:43] <vengeful> shin-gouki i always highlight and then use my middle moust button heh
[11:43] <khermans> EggMan, i dont think Hoary has the resizer
[11:43] <EggMan> hmm
[11:44] <grndslm> i don't think it does either
[11:44] <Shin_Gouki> vengeful
[11:44] <Shin_Gouki> THX!
[11:44] <EggMan> Thanks khermans
[11:44] <fahren> i can't set aterm's font in breezy to -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-120-*-iso8859-2; i have installed xfonts-intl-europe package, and that font is found, however it looks like it was ugly scaled, it doesn't fit for use; i had no problems with that font on first ubuntu version (forgot name)
[11:44] <ubuntu> hols
[11:44] <khermans> EggMan, you have a torrent program?
[11:44] <EggMan> yea
[11:44] <vengeful> mouse even
[11:44] <khermans> EggMan, you running i386?
[11:44] <khermans> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-5/breezy-install-i386.iso.torrent
[11:44] <EggMan> a 133 mhz!
[11:44] <fahren> also i don't have any problems with that font on any other system i know :)
[11:44] <fahren> any ideas?
[11:45] <khermans> EggMan, ouch
[11:45] <khermans> EggMan, i would try gentoo on that instead
[11:45] <EggMan> i like it
[11:45] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:45] <khermans> EggMan, you ned to conserve resources
[11:45] <EggMan> yea, but it runs
[11:45] <jack-> hrm, still working
[11:45] <[LethAL] > EggMan, I agree with khermans, as long as you can wait a few weels to compile it
[11:45] <EggMan> i dont mind that its slow
[11:45] <[LethAL] > weeks*
[11:45] <confrey> I need help to use pcmcia on my laptop : I can't see card inserted in
[11:46] <jack-> grndslm, what does ctrl-alt-backspace do?
[11:46] <EggMan> thats why i wont use Gentoo
[11:46] <fahren> :/
[11:46] <EggMan> to much compile time on this box
[11:46] <mumbles> is the backports site down ?
[11:46] <khermans> [LethAL] , that is true, but if you have access to a distcc server ...
[11:46] <[LethAL] > distcc?
[11:46] <khermans> EggMan, other option is to not install X
[11:46] <khermans> [LethAL] , distributed C compilation
[11:47] <[LethAL] > Ah, cool
[11:47] <[drunk] logic> muep, doesn't appear to be
[11:47] <nalioth> mumbles: yes
[11:47] <[drunk] logic> er, mumbles,^^
[11:47] <khermans> EggMan, try the colon cd 5
[11:47] <khermans> EggMan, are you trying to resize NTFS?
[11:47] <EggMan> no, ext3
[11:47] <khermans> if it is straight FAT32, thats no problem
[11:47] <Shin_Gouki> hi anyone knows a good guide for installing MONO on ubuntu?
[11:47] <khermans> oh ... nevermind
[11:48] <khermans> EggMan, can you download parted on the original install/
[11:48] <khermans> EggMan, parted will allow you to resize that
[11:48] <EggMan> ok
[11:48] <cas> Hi, my cpufreq scale applet does show me the speed, but i can't adjust it. Is there a way to do this?
[11:49] <lllmanulll> cas, Are you sure your CPU does support scaling ?
[11:49] <khermans> cas, yeah i used to do that in Gentoo, but for some reason i haven't got it working in Ubuntu -- but it does scale automtically and thats fine with me
[11:49] <confrey> I need help to use pcmcia on my laptop : I can't see card inserted in
[11:50] <mumbles> whats the best ftp server to use? thats easy to manage?
[11:50] <khermans> mumbles, vsftpd
[11:50] <cas> Yes, It even scales automaticly, I just want to adjust it manually because my cpu gets to hot (I know this is a hardware problem and will be fixed)
[11:50] <mumbles> thanks thats what someone else just told me
[11:50] <kbrooks> how do i remove N comments from a file with sed?
[11:51] <khermans> cas, oh you can use the cli toold cpufreq-selector
[11:51] <cas> khermans, Yeah, I also used gentoo, thats why i know it's possible. Isn't it possible to do it with a cli command
[11:51] <cas> tnx :) khermans
[11:51] <ghb> How do I install ACPI, or activate it?
[11:51] <Shin_Gouki> hi!! anyone knows a good guide for installing MONO on ubuntu?
[11:51] <[LethAL] > Hmmm
[11:51] <[LethAL] > !mono
[11:51] <ubotu> hmm... mono is implementation of .NET framework on linux. It supports winforms partially. For details http://www.go-mono.com
[11:51] <virgule> anyone else had an issue with wxpython like this one: http://pastebin.com/382075
[11:51] <jmg> hey all
[11:51] <Shin_Gouki> thx lethal
[11:51] <jmg> my laptop powers off after waking up from suspend
[11:51] <[LethAL] > That was a wild guess :d
[11:52] <Shin_Gouki> sometimes people JUST looking for THAT
[11:52] <Shin_Gouki> ;)
[11:52] <jmg> any ideaS?
[11:53] <confrey> jmg, did you comment 'else' line in powerbtn.sh?
[11:53] <jmg> confrey: ???
[11:53] <khermans> cas, did you get the manual frequancy seletion working?
[11:54] <jmg> confrey: where is that? see if you are faster than my find -name :)
[11:54] <khermans> cas,  you still have to know th stepping values
[11:54] <jmg> got it
[11:54] <jmg> yay
[11:54] <jmg> testing
[11:54] <cas> khermans, Yeah, figured it out. Works smooth now on 2000 Mhz
[11:55] <khermans> cas, :-)
[11:55] <teh_pwner> apt-get install gift-ares-0.2.2.tar.bz2
[11:55] <teh_pwner>  <---doesn't work
[11:55] <ToTo> i all, i'using breezy but i have some problem with xmule, xmms, mplayer fonts, someone has any suggestion?
[11:55] <khermans> teh_pwner, shoudltn either
[11:55] <teh_pwner> i need to install my prog :s
[11:55] <khermans> teh_pwner, is it in the repos?
[11:55] <confrey> jmg, you must edit the file /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh; comment the lines 'else' and '/sbin...'
[11:55] <jmg> confrey: still powers off...
[11:56] <teh_pwner> khermans, its on my desktop :|
[11:56] <jmg> do i need to reboot after editing the file? i am using klaptop...
[11:56] <Shin_Gouki> Shin Gouki says: Good night ubuntu Linux Community :)
[11:56] <kbrooks> teh_pwner: that's a file
[11:56] <khermans> teh_pwner, i dont know what package that is
[11:56] <virgule> haa its driving me nut :(   what is the actual problem then what should I do to fix this? http://pastebin.com/382079
[11:56] <confrey> jmg, I don't know..
[11:56] <kbrooks> teh_pwner: what are you doing EXACTLY
[11:56] <jmg> confrey, ok i will look into it deeper... thanks for the hint
[11:56] <khermans> teh_pwner, but you should just be able to extract the binary if is it compiled or extract/compile if it is source
[11:56] <cas> teh_pwner, Is that normal gift?
[11:56] <teh_pwner> idk
[11:57] <teh_pwner> all i know is gift-ares-0.2.2.tar.bz2
[11:57] <confrey> confrey, I don't think so, try /etc/init.d/acpi restart
[11:57] <jmg> confrey: whatever i find i will report as a bug... thanks
[11:57] <kbrooks> teh_pwner: what are you doing EXACTLY
[11:57] <teh_pwner> khermans, trying to install that program
[11:57] <teh_pwner> *kbrooks
[11:57] <kbrooks> teh_pwner: where did you get it from
[11:57] <ToTo> i all, i'using breezy but i have some problem with xmule, xmms, mplayer fonts, someone has any suggestion?
[11:58] <teh_pwner> kbrooks, i got it from some site i forgot what site though
[11:58] <vengeful> tell us your problems
[11:58] <teh_pwner> kbrooks, i think it was sourceforge not sure though