| kendrick | screenshot? :) | 12:03 |
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| kendrick | i don't have gc in front of me | 12:03 |
| kendrick | (on Xp at work :^P ) | 12:03 |
| bdoin | one minute | 12:04 |
| kendrick | thx ;) | 12:05 |
| bdoin | http://home.gcompris.net/screenshot.jpg | 12:06 |
| bdoin | You remember we are pointing to your stamps in gcompris. if they are there, the tuxpaint icon appear in the left (like in he shot) | 12:07 |
| ogra | guys if you are tracking gc bugs, please make sure you have todays build, i updated the packge today ;) | 12:07 |
| bdoin | you could do the same | 12:07 |
| kendrick | ah, got it | 12:07 |
| kendrick | i never actually used windows on my own computer | 12:08 |
| kendrick | oops | 12:08 |
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| kendrick | cya | 03:13 |
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| === Topic for #edubuntu: The discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | First official release due in October 2005. NEXT MEETING: Oct 5 12:00 UTC on #ubuntu-meeting. | Preview Release: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Installation help http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting | ||
| === Topic (#edubuntu): set by JaneW at Wed Sep 28 15:06:19 2005 | ||
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| jsgotangco | hey JaneW | 08:50 |
| JaneW | hi jsgotangco | 09:08 |
| jsgotangco | JaneW, biltong pusher =) | 09:34 |
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| JaneW | jsgotangco: Hey I am not a pusher! | 09:44 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: they are peddling me! | 09:45 |
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| pvanhoof | little question about edubuntu | 11:47 |
| pvanhoof | is edubuntu usable for schools for very little kids? | 11:47 |
| pvanhoof | Also note that the computers on a lot of those schools are not always high end computers | 11:47 |
| pvanhoof | often P2 with +- 100Mb ram | 11:48 |
| pvanhoof | very little is .. 2 to 6 years of age | 11:48 |
| pvanhoof | And 6 to 12 | 11:48 |
| pvanhoof | and also note that the teachers aren't at all smart computer users .. | 11:49 |
| pvanhoof | like .. no shortcut on the desktop means that the computer is broken | 11:49 |
| pvanhoof | And I'd like to run a few windows applications (wine) | 11:49 |
| pvanhoof | so .. how can edubuntu help me with that :)? | 11:49 |
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| === JessicaX^ waves | ||
| Zaheer | good afternoon :D | 12:06 |
| JessicaX^ | Hello | 12:06 |
| JessicaX^ | (morning here) lol | 12:06 |
| Zaheer | good day :D more global | 12:07 |
| Zaheer | im having trouble with "make" seems i dont have it :D any ideas how to get it? | 12:07 |
| JessicaX^ | FreeBSD? | 12:08 |
| JessicaX^ | Or Linux of some form | 12:08 |
| Zaheer | nope edubuntu DVD | 12:08 |
| JessicaX^ | ohh -> edubuntu is debian | 12:08 |
| Zaheer | nope edubuntu is ubuntu | 12:08 |
| JessicaX^ | Zaheer: apt-get install build-essential :) | 12:08 |
| JessicaX^ | and ubuntu is debian ;) | 12:08 |
| JessicaX^ | hence ...... | 12:08 |
| Zaheer | :D | 12:09 |
| JessicaX^ | That command will fix-er-up | 12:09 |
| Zaheer | oh i forgot dont have inet connection yet thats why i DL the preview DVD | 12:09 |
| JessicaX^ | or sudo apt-get install build-essential | 12:09 |
| JessicaX^ | Zaheer: It SHOULD be on the DVD | 12:09 |
| JaneW | This is a preview of our plan for the Edubuntu website: http://www.omma.org.uk/files/temp/Edubunt-site-layout.png thoughts? | 12:09 |
| JessicaX^ | If it's Ubuntu, it's there | 12:09 |
| JessicaX^ | JaneW: The Orange screws the graphics up | 12:10 |
| Zaheer | i agree | 12:10 |
| JessicaX^ | doesnt matter .. they'll keep it :P | 12:10 |
| JessicaX^ | It's like "Here's what's going to happen, any comments?" | 12:11 |
| JessicaX^ | Also - Icons are a bit hard to see, plus your eye just goes straight to the orange which just hits you in the face | 12:12 |
| JaneW | ok | 12:13 |
| JaneW | do you think it sould be a different shade? | 12:13 |
| JessicaX^ | But just leave it as it is | 12:13 |
| JaneW | or not orange at all? | 12:13 |
| JessicaX^ | lol, you do what you do | 12:13 |
| JaneW | We are going for a loud, vibrant, fun, young, naive look | 12:13 |
| JessicaX^ | Not up to me | 12:13 |
| JessicaX^ | :/ | 12:13 |
| Zaheer | BTW who does the art work for edubuntu. i really dig the the whole cartoonie look... | 12:13 |
| JaneW | highvoltage put that together | 12:14 |
| JaneW | Zaheer: thanks, we wanted to look less adult and professional than the rest of ubuntu, and keep an element of fun | 12:14 |
| JessicaX^ | Whooaaa | 12:14 |
| JessicaX^ | The content at the bottom is like SLAP | 12:14 |
| Zaheer | serious?? i met him for the first time on sat. seems like a very nice guy always smiling :) | 12:15 |
| JaneW | Zaheer: are you in CT? | 12:15 |
| Zaheer | yes | 12:15 |
| JessicaX^ | :/ | 12:15 |
| Zaheer | Obs to be specific | 12:15 |
| JaneW | Zaheer: he's very nice, and yes he is always smiling, happy and helpful | 12:15 |
| JessicaX^ | Wait | 12:15 |
| JessicaX^ | I though ogra was a girl | 12:15 |
| JaneW | Zaheer: cool, I love Obs | 12:15 |
| JessicaX^ | Oliver Grawert <-- Wierd girl's name | 12:15 |
| JaneW | ogra is a guy | 12:15 |
| JessicaX^ | wow | 12:16 |
| JessicaX^ | Hmm, also - I think africans are more worried about being ridden of diseases than wether their software is free | 12:16 |
| Zaheer | jess are you an african? | 12:17 |
| JessicaX^ | Nope | 12:17 |
| JessicaX^ | But, i've been to Africa | 12:17 |
| JessicaX^ | eg - People dying of not having clean water | 12:17 |
| Zaheer | where? | 12:17 |
| JessicaX^ | For me, water + food > free software | 12:17 |
| JessicaX^ | Nambia | 12:17 |
| JessicaX^ | also "If we are to lift africa from her circumstances" -> Yep, which we put her in :P | 12:18 |
| JessicaX^ | I still think that "make poverty history" is just an excuse for companies to have an investment for when africa is a new westernised country | 12:19 |
| JessicaX^ | Lots of big companies give lots of cash ... Sounds awfully like the mid 60/70's where all the businesses gave to africa, they spent it all on guns and other stuff, and then all of a sudden, their debt is in the millions | 12:20 |
| crimsun | JaneW: if I may make a suggestion: the red really screams, and I think the others have mentioned the colors being a bit too vibrant | 12:21 |
| JessicaX^ | Can i try making a website thing | 12:22 |
| JessicaX^ | I'm so bored | 12:22 |
| crimsun | of course | 12:22 |
| JessicaX^ | Or will it be thrown out once i submit it? :P | 12:22 |
| crimsun | I don't see why it wouldn't at least be discussed | 12:23 |
| JaneW | crimsun: you really wouldn't have liked the previous iteration then... http://www.ossn.co.za/edubuntu/2/ | 12:23 |
| crimsun | oh my | 12:23 |
| JaneW | crimsun: how do you suggest we improve it while still keeping it young and bright and fun? | 12:23 |
| JessicaX^ | Oh my word | 12:23 |
| JessicaX^ | Am i allowed to say "ouch" ? | 12:23 |
| JessicaX^ | Cause that is pure ouch | 12:24 |
| JessicaX^ | in any department that comes to mind | 12:24 |
| JessicaX^ | :/ | 12:24 |
| JessicaX^ | Plus, the rounded logo looks like the shape of a bullet | 12:24 |
| JaneW | this was the first one, but I thought it was too boring and similar to the ubuntu page (nothing new) http://www.ossn.co.za/edubuntu/1/ | 12:24 |
| JessicaX^ | eek - brown | 12:25 |
| JessicaX^ | i mean | 12:25 |
| JessicaX^ | YAY brown | 12:25 |
| JaneW | these are mock ups, which means put together quickly to convey an idea, not perfectly designed or styled. | 12:25 |
| JessicaX^ | Sure | 12:25 |
| JessicaX^ | Or, changed because i said that? :P | 12:25 |
| crimsun | JaneW: I do like the current layout, but orange and yellow instead of orange and red, please :) | 12:27 |
| JaneW | yellow? | 12:27 |
| JessicaX^ | oh no | 12:27 |
| JessicaX^ | yellow? | 12:27 |
| crimsun | not for the entire page | 12:27 |
| crimsun | just for edubuntu | 12:27 |
| JaneW | crimsun: OK YOU MEAN THE 2 LIGHTER SHADES IN THE LOGO | 12:28 |
| JaneW | oops sorry about caps lock | 12:28 |
| JessicaX^ | Wow | 12:28 |
| crimsun | I don't know how relevant this is, but have you considered accessiblity for kids with color blindness? | 12:28 |
| JaneW | crimsun: I didn't think of that at all, good point | 12:29 |
| JessicaX^ | Hell no | 12:29 |
| crimsun | I can't seem to speell | 12:29 |
| JessicaX^ | There are no color blind kids | 12:29 |
| JessicaX^ | What are you talking about | 12:29 |
| JaneW | crimsun: is text on red and issue? | 12:29 |
| crimsun | red in general is an issue | 12:29 |
| JessicaX^ | JaneW: If you think it isn't, it isnt | 12:29 |
| JessicaX^ | :) | 12:29 |
| crimsun | (I have protanopia, so red really affects me) | 12:30 |
| JessicaX^ | isn't it protaneurope | 12:30 |
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| JaneW | crimsun: what does that mean? | 12:31 |
| crimsun | JaneW: essentially reds are no go for me | 12:32 |
| JaneW | crimsun: interesting choice of nick then btw ;) | 12:32 |
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| JaneW | hi fabbione :) | 12:32 |
| fabbione | yo | 12:32 |
| JessicaX^ | crims_____U_____n | 12:32 |
| ogra | hey fabbione :) | 12:32 |
| JaneW | crimsun: do you know if it is a common problem? | 12:32 |
| ogra | and hey daniels :) | 12:32 |
| JessicaX^ | JaneW: Yes | 12:32 |
| JessicaX^ | It's called COLOUR BLINDNESS | 12:32 |
| JessicaX^ | Or did you already know that | 12:33 |
| crimsun | JaneW: no, it's fairly rare (it affects the fewest males with color blindness). I would just suggest that the red be kept to a minimum. | 12:33 |
| ogra | JessicaX^, your comments are sooo helpful today again | 12:33 |
| JessicaX^ | Thanks | 12:33 |
| JessicaX^ | why does she ask | 12:33 |
| JessicaX^ | she'll just do whatever anyways | 12:33 |
| JaneW | crimsun: ok noted, I'll ask the guys to look at it | 12:33 |
| ogra | btw, did anybody notice ? we hunted down #12942 yesterday night/this morning :) | 12:34 |
| JessicaX^ | Nope | 12:34 |
| crimsun | JessicaX^: there's no conspiracy, and all constructive criticism is welcome. | 12:34 |
| JaneW | ogra: which one was that again? | 12:34 |
| crimsun | JaneW: many thanks | 12:34 |
| JessicaX^ | rofl | 12:34 |
| JessicaX^ | Don't say the tagline again | 12:34 |
| ogra | JaneW, timeout on frist boot | 12:34 |
| JaneW | ogra: great! | 12:34 |
| ogra | yep :-D | 12:34 |
| JessicaX^ | By the way -> Does edubuntu take as long to boot up as ubuntu? | 12:35 |
| JessicaX^ | CAuse i tried it -> the desktop looks identical o_O | 12:35 |
| daniels | no, there's patches in it to make it boot roughly twice as fast | 12:35 |
| daniels | given that they're totally different distributions and all | 12:35 |
| daniels | ogra: hi. i'm just here out of a morbid sense of curiousity. | 12:36 |
| JessicaX^ | Uhh? They | 12:36 |
| ogra | hehe | 12:36 |
| JessicaX^ | They are? wow | 12:36 |
| JessicaX^ | Didnt notice ;) | 12:36 |
| daniels | yeah | 12:36 |
| JaneW | daniels: enjoy the show ;) | 12:36 |
| daniels | edubuntu forked from ubuntu years ago | 12:36 |
| fabbione | yeah | 12:36 |
| JaneW | daniels: *thwap* | 12:36 |
| daniels | the main issue was boot time. ubuntu refused to take all of edubuntu's patches that make it boot faster. | 12:36 |
| JessicaX^ | Wow | 12:36 |
| fabbione | daniels and i did a lot of code rewrite to optimize X over network | 12:36 |
| JessicaX^ | For YEARS of work | 12:36 |
| JessicaX^ | It's not that impressive | 12:36 |
| JessicaX^ | ;) | 12:36 |
| daniels | for about twelve years of work, neither are you :P | 12:37 |
| fabbione | also the kernel is way smaller to optimize tft download size | 12:37 |
| ogra | JessicaX^, hey, we even can boot backwards :) click System->Log Out and select shutdown (do it now !) | 12:37 |
| JessicaX^ | I'm twelve? | 12:37 |
| JessicaX^ | Wow | 12:37 |
| JessicaX^ | didnt know | 12:37 |
| JessicaX^ | :o | 12:37 |
| JessicaX^ | I always thought i was 21, due to the birth certificate that proves it and all | 12:37 |
| === ogra wouldnt guessed JessicaX^ is already this old... she doesnt give this impression here | ||
| JessicaX^ | This old? | 12:38 |
| ogra | (12) | 12:38 |
| JessicaX^ | THAT old | 12:38 |
| === mode/#edubuntu [+o fabbione] by Md | ||
| JessicaX^ | :P | 12:38 |
| daniels | whoohoo marco | 12:38 |
| fabbione | ok.. | 12:38 |
| fabbione | now.. | 12:38 |
| JaneW | YAY | 12:38 |
| ogra | :) | 12:38 |
| JessicaX^ | Bye bye :) | 12:38 |
| JaneW | :)) | 12:38 |
| fabbione | JessicaX^: it's time to say good bye | 12:38 |
| daniels | JessicaX^: there's nothing cooler than insulting non-native english speakers about their language skills. | 12:38 |
| JessicaX^ | fabbione: I guessed it :) | 12:39 |
| fabbione | so either you start behaving | 12:39 |
| JessicaX^ | daniels | 12:39 |
| JessicaX^ | rofls | 12:39 |
| fabbione | or your are not welcome here | 12:39 |
| JessicaX^ | <-- non english | 12:39 |
| JessicaX^ | :D | 12:39 |
| JessicaX^ | au revioir | 12:39 |
| JessicaX^ | bon appetit | 12:39 |
| daniels | rofls isn't a sign of good english, just the vapidness that comes with being in primary school still. | 12:39 |
| JessicaX^ | :O | 12:39 |
| JessicaX^ | ohnoes | 12:39 |
| ogra | JessicaX^, just behave :) its quite easy.... others manage it too | 12:39 |
| JessicaX^ | :P | 12:39 |
| daniels | 02:28 < bob2> one day, when I meet a deity, they'll give me 3 questions | 12:39 |
| daniels | 02:28 < bob2> or let me ask 3 | 12:39 |
| daniels | 02:28 < bob2> and one of them will be "Is hostinggeek a troll, or a really fucking annoying 12 year old?" | 12:39 |
| JessicaX^ | Ooh, swearing is maturity :) | 12:40 |
| JessicaX^ | I swear therefore i am :D | 12:40 |
| JessicaX^ | uber "l337" | 12:40 |
| JaneW | bob2 is very mature | 12:40 |
| ogra | JessicaX^ == hostinggeek ?? hmm | 12:40 |
| JessicaX^ | lol, no | 12:40 |
| JessicaX^ | I'm sure | 12:40 |
| ogra | matches quite well :) | 12:40 |
| fabbione | well | 12:40 |
| fabbione | ok.. | 12:40 |
| JessicaX^ | Not really | 12:40 |
| fabbione | i am not as patience as many in here... | 12:40 |
| JessicaX^ | Check the hostmasks | 12:40 |
| JaneW | fabbione: DOIT! | 12:41 |
| daniels | anyway, all this chatter about annoying tools is just detracting from our goal here of making edubuntu even faster still than ubuntu, so let's get back to it. | 12:41 |
| ogra | fabbione, GO !!! | 12:41 |
| JessicaX^ | :P | 12:41 |
| JessicaX^ | Sure sure | 12:41 |
| JessicaX^ | Edubuntu is Ubuntu | 12:41 |
| Zaheer | bye bye!!! | 12:41 |
| JessicaX^ | come on | 12:41 |
| === mode/#edubuntu [+b *!*@86.112.130.*] by fabbione | ||
| === JessicaX^ was kicked off #edubuntu by fabbione (KTHXBYE) | ||
| ogra | phew :) | 12:41 |
| === JaneW *HUGS* fabbione | ||
| ogra | finally | 12:41 |
| fabbione | JaneW: i want a real one :) | 12:41 |
| === ogra joins the group hug | ||
| JaneW | heh | 12:41 |
| fabbione | this isn't virtual sex :) | 12:42 |
| Zaheer | LOL | 12:42 |
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| JaneW | Zaheer: sorry about having to witness that ;) | 12:42 |
| JessicaX1 | Oops, autojoined | 12:42 |
| JessicaX1 | o_O | 12:42 |
| daniels | so, um, colour scheme. i kinda like the artwork hno put up earlier fwiw, but I'm not so sure about making it *too* fun and kid-like, since it's teachers et al rather than kids that will be hitting it. but it does look good. | 12:42 |
| Zaheer | its cool :) all part of the fun... although shes back | 12:42 |
| JessicaX1 | Hehe :/ | 12:43 |
| JaneW | daniels: yes I think we need to be careful not to go too kiddy | 12:43 |
| Zaheer | like the bride of chucky she has returned. | 12:43 |
| === mode/#edubuntu [+b *!*@86.112.134.*] by fabbione | ||
| ogra | JaneW, i've put up the BOF list btw ... | 12:43 |
| JaneW | daniels: crimsun doesn't like the red ... do you agree it's too bright? | 12:43 |
| daniels | also, I think the red should be a little lighter. | 12:43 |
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| JaneW | ogra: yes I saw that thanks | 12:44 |
| daniels | fabbione: 86.112.0.0/16 | 12:44 |
| === mode/#edubuntu [+o ogra] by fabbione | ||
| ogra | thanks :) | 12:44 |
| === mode/#edubuntu [+o daniels] by fabbione | ||
| daniels | ta | 12:44 |
| === mode/#edubuntu [+o JaneW] by fabbione | ||
| JaneW | daniels: ok, I'll see what we can do | 12:44 |
| fabbione | there | 12:44 |
| ogra | even my auto disconnect will hit me soon... its about time :) | 12:44 |
| JaneW | ooooh POWER | 12:44 |
| fabbione | we still need to wait for highvoltage to fix chanserv | 12:44 |
| ajmitch_ | ogra: *cough* still getting moodle right, sorry :) | 12:44 |
| daniels | gnr, they only have 128-255 | 12:44 |
| ogra | ajmitch_, its ok... thanks for doing it :) | 12:44 |
| fabbione | JaneW: like all women in the world you are attracted to power, aren't you? ;P | 12:45 |
| fabbione | anyway | 12:45 |
| ogra | heh | 12:45 |
| fabbione | i am out of here :) | 12:45 |
| JaneW | lol | 12:45 |
| === mode/#edubuntu [+b *!*@86.112.*.*] by daniels | ||
| JaneW | thanks fabbione | 12:45 |
| JaneW | appreciated | 12:45 |
| daniels | turns out it's all on the same ISP, but they just have two /18s | 12:45 |
| fabbione | daniels: a /16 isn't a bit too much? :) | 12:45 |
| ogra | yes, thanks a lot | 12:45 |
| === mode/#edubuntu [-bb *!*@86.112.134.* *!*@86.112.130.*] by daniels | ||
| ajmitch_ | fabbione: when it keeps sanity in here? :) | 12:46 |
| daniels | fabbione: eh, anyone on the same ISP as him doesn't deserve to be able to come in unless they go around and kneecap him | 12:46 |
| fabbione | well... | 12:46 |
| JaneW | agreed | 12:46 |
| fabbione | daniels: right... but these kind of bans are more for #LinuxWareZ than #edubuntu :) | 12:46 |
| JaneW | what country is it from? | 12:46 |
| fabbione | anyway | 12:46 |
| ogra | intrestingly hostingeek in -motu behaved a lot better ... | 12:47 |
| daniels | JaneW: the UK | 12:47 |
| daniels | ogra: to be fair, that's not saying much | 12:47 |
| JaneW | ahhh, bloody poms! | 12:47 |
| ogra | nope, not really, thats true... | 12:47 |
| ajmitch_ | we haven't had a good motu troll for awhile | 12:48 |
| JaneW | ajmitch_: you can have ours ;) | 12:48 |
| ogra | true... but the channel is to busy... they would drown there anyway | 12:48 |
| fabbione | we could still invite the GNAA to troll :P | 12:48 |
| ajmitch_ | JaneW: no thanks :) | 12:49 |
| ajmitch_ | we've got enough work to get done without channel pets | 12:49 |
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| Zaheer | can some explain to me what just happend... i've seemed to have lost the plot somewhere ;) | 12:49 |
| crimsun | nothing. <-- | 12:49 |
| crimsun | ok, back to layout! | 12:49 |
| === ajmitch_ should try & 'sell' edubuntu to his old boss :) | ||
| ajmitch_ | since he has servers (mainly file/proxy) in a number of schools around the area | 12:50 |
| JaneW | Zaheer: JessicaX^ has been trolling here and basically causing trouble for some time, we brought in the reinforcements today and got (him?) kicked and banned. | 12:50 |
| ogra | Zaheer, he/she/(it ?) came here every second day, ranting against everything someone said... | 12:50 |
| JaneW | Zaheer: sorry about that, but please continue with your real suggestions and ideas | 12:51 |
| === ogra wonders if there are male or female trolls... i guess "it" is the right term :) | ||
| Zaheer | :) | 12:51 |
| Zaheer | thanks | 12:51 |
| JaneW | ogra: ask pere_gone or magnon | 12:53 |
| ogra | yes, or Mithrandir :) | 12:53 |
| JaneW | ogra: because they are Norwegian and know about 'real' Trolls, not because they are web trolls ;) | 12:53 |
| JaneW | true | 12:53 |
| daniels | well, enjoy. :) | 12:53 |
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| Zaheer | did anyone see my question about "make"?? | 12:55 |
| ogra | bah, powerpc exploded competely tonight... the new gcompris is 15 MB bigger :/ but worth it | 12:55 |
| ogra | Zaheer, build-essential is on the CD/DVD just install it, it pulls in all necessary apps | 12:55 |
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| Zaheer | so apt-get install build-essential will do the trick | 12:56 |
| ogra | yup | 12:56 |
| Zaheer | cool :) lemme try | 12:56 |
| ogra | dont forget sudo in front ;) | 12:56 |
| hno-livecd | I guess JaneW might already asked about this in here: http://www.omma.org.uk/files/temp/Edubunt-site-layout.png feedback? | 12:57 |
| hno-livecd | so far we have that the red is a bit too dominating | 12:58 |
| hno-livecd | (noted) | 12:58 |
| Zaheer | ogra = indeed | 12:58 |
| ajmitch_ | hno-livecd: how well will this expand to 1280x1024, for example? | 12:58 |
| Zaheer | i feel that the orange is abit too much as well... | 12:58 |
| crimsun | yeah, I was just going to ask about the spacing in the right bar | 12:58 |
| ogra | hno-livecd, and the orange should probably have a gradient... lighter on the left to not swallow the ubuntu logo | 12:59 |
| ajmitch_ | the ubuntu logo in the right hand side gets lost in the orange | 12:59 |
| ajmitch_ | as ogra says :) | 12:59 |
| JaneW | hno-livecd: we had a lively debate with a troll about it a short while ago | 12:59 |
| hno-livecd | or some sort of shadow under the logo | 12:59 |
| JaneW | hno-livecd: be glad you weren't here | 12:59 |
| hno-livecd | JaneW: I'll check the logs :) | 01:00 |
| JaneW | ajmitch_: yes, that's why we had to put the edubuntu logo on white | 01:00 |
| ogra | hno-livecd, or the bright glow the other ubuntu logo on the wiki has | 01:00 |
| hno-livecd | yepp, I'll play with options | 01:00 |
| hno-livecd | crimsun: what about the spacing? | 01:00 |
| JaneW | hno-livecd: I like bold colours rather than gradient for this specific purpose | 01:01 |
| crimsun | hno-livecd: I was thinking there might need to be more space between each section (quick links, related projects, news highlights) | 01:01 |
| hno-livecd | ajmitch_: it should adapt to any screensize | 01:01 |
| crimsun | hno-livecd: but that's probably tied to ajmitch_'s question | 01:01 |
| JaneW | hno-livecd: we can always have a white background to the partner projects section can't we? | 01:01 |
| ajmitch_ | hno-livecd: so the orange bar will right-align, the white content area will expand? | 01:02 |
| hno-livecd | crimsun: sounds good. It does need some tweaking | 01:02 |
| hno-livecd | JaneW: yeah, that might look good | 01:02 |
| hno-livecd | ajmitch_: yes | 01:03 |
| hno-livecd | I don't have the link to Jonathan's original ATM, but that does expand | 01:03 |
| JaneW | http://www.ossn.co.za/edubuntu/4/ | 01:04 |
| ajmitch_ | ok, so that has the edubuntu logo on the right | 01:05 |
| ajmitch_ | still very similar | 01:05 |
| JaneW | ajmitch_: yes it's almost the same... | 01:06 |
| JaneW | ajmitch_: and the brief I gave to the designer was do anything, it doesn't have to look like the ubuntu logo at all ;) | 01:06 |
| === ajmitch_ thinks the 'terminal server' part in the last paragraph to be fairly important for school sysadmins :) | ||
| hno-livecd | Yeah, it's mainly the same. The main changes are actually here: http://www.omma.org.uk/files/temp/Edubunt-wiki-layout.png on the wiki layout | 01:07 |
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| hno-livecd | which is what I originally set out to do based on Jonathan's web page ... | 01:07 |
| hno-livecd | but when I couldn't get everything to fit I decided it was just easier to change his page :) | 01:08 |
| JaneW | hno-livecd: I think ajmitch_ meant the edubuntu logo is pretty similar to the ubuntu logo (unless I misunderstood) | 01:08 |
| ajmitch_ | JaneW: that's true, but I meant the page layout :) | 01:09 |
| JaneW | oic, sorry | 01:09 |
| === ajmitch_ is easily misunderstood at this time of night :) | ||
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| JaneW | hi Karnaugh | 01:14 |
| JaneW | Karnaugh: if you troll here I | 01:15 |
| JaneW | 'll thwap you | 01:15 |
| ajmitch_ | heh | 01:15 |
| Karnaugh | heh | 01:15 |
| Karnaugh | I'll twap you back ;) | 01:15 |
| Karnaugh | *thwap even | 01:15 |
| === ajmitch_ never merited such a welcome :) | ||
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| JaneW | ajmitch_: yes but you aren't a potential troll ;) | 01:18 |
| ajmitch_ | you never know :) | 01:18 |
| ajmitch_ | hi jinty | 01:18 |
| JaneW | hi jinty | 01:18 |
| JaneW | ogra: how are things looking atm? are you done with xss? | 01:18 |
| ogra | JaneW, beside the normal bugs, yes... | 01:19 |
| ogra | i'll have to revisit the code for standard bugfixing ... | 01:19 |
| JaneW | ogra: is it still taking a lot of your time? and did Mark accept your changes (3 buttons etc) | 01:19 |
| ogra | i fixed gcompris over the weekend... its gotten very good | 01:19 |
| JaneW | ogra: GREAT! | 01:20 |
| ogra | JaneW, makr ordered them | 01:20 |
| JaneW | ogra: so it's in and working? | 01:20 |
| ogra | i made sure they match his expectations *before* ;) | 01:20 |
| JaneW | ogra: very wise! | 01:20 |
| jinty | hi all | 01:20 |
| ogra | xss is in since last friday or was it thursday ? | 01:20 |
| JaneW | fri? | 01:21 |
| ogra | after that i fixed gcompris... yesterday night the timeout bug... | 01:21 |
| ogra | hi jinty | 01:21 |
| JaneW | ogra: how was your holiday yesterday? did you rest? | 01:21 |
| ogra | not really.... | 01:21 |
| ajmitch_ | ogra? rest? heh | 01:21 |
| ogra | mdz didnt want to accept the gcompris fixes, they were to huge... i had to discuss a *lot* | 01:21 |
| ogra | (600icons were added to the code) | 01:22 |
| ogra | but they are in now ;) | 01:22 |
| ajmitch_ | oh good :) | 01:22 |
| ogra | i fear the discussion about moodle that we#ll have | 01:22 |
| === ajmitch_ hides | ||
| ogra | but until now i got nearly everything i needed from him | 01:23 |
| === JaneW may be scared to see mdz in Montreal! | ||
| ogra | JaneW, btw, because i ran out of time for moodle due to xss, ajmitch_ grabbed it... he deserves a big gold star ;) | 01:23 |
| === ajmitch_ doesn't deserve the gold star yet, it's not finished & approved | ||
| === JaneW gives ajmitch_ a virtual GOLD STAR (tm) | ||
| === JaneW takes it back ;) | ||
| ajmitch_ | I'll accept beer in lieu of stars ;) | 01:24 |
| JaneW | ajmitch_: oh alright | 01:24 |
| ogra | now i only have lots and lots of ltsp fixes to do, rebuild the artwork package and see that i weed out powerpc to fit on the CD... | 01:24 |
| === JaneW is going to have to bring serious $BEER to UBZ | ||
| JaneW | ajmitch_: seriously though thanks for the help, we need all we can get | 01:24 |
| ajmitch_ | JaneW: I'll start swimming to montreal as soon as everything is released :) | 01:25 |
| JaneW | ajmitch_: heh | 01:25 |
| ogra | oh, and one installer bug i'm hunting curretly... just doing a test install | 01:25 |
| ajmitch_ | JaneW: actually I have ticket beside me, they cost enough :) | 01:25 |
| ogra | ajmitch_, no e-ticket ? | 01:25 |
| JaneW | ogra: we need to campaign/trawl for more dev help at UBZ don't you think? | 01:25 |
| ajmitch_ | ogra: nope | 01:25 |
| JaneW | ogra: it's not fair for it to all be on your head, and then have so many blocks | 01:26 |
| ajmitch_ | all paper tickets | 01:26 |
| ogra | JaneW, we'll get it... i'm in #ltsp since yesterday... they all like to help... | 01:26 |
| JaneW | GREAT | 01:26 |
| ajmitch_ | JaneW: I thought I'd help with moodle so that we still have a living ogra at UBZ | 01:26 |
| JaneW | ogra: then you can be chief whip, and refuse to accept thier packages if they are late ;) | 01:26 |
| ogra | JaneW, but i'd love to give away even more parts since i didnt do much on ubuntu during this cycle.. | 01:26 |
| JaneW | ajmitch_: orga has been a legend, and deserves praise | 01:27 |
| ogra | heh | 01:27 |
| ajmitch_ | he does | 01:27 |
| ajmitch_ | he deserves rest, too | 01:27 |
| ajmitch_ | which I suspect he'll appreciate more than praise by release day | 01:27 |
| ogra | not really... i was very beadly organized in the beginning... mdz will agree on that... but i think he also sees my improvement :) | 01:27 |
| JaneW | thing is ppl think edubuntu didn't achieve enough so we are fighting an uphill battle :( | 01:27 |
| JaneW | ogra: yes you really need rest! I hope you are looking after yourself | 01:27 |
| ogra | JaneW, suse is :) | 01:28 |
| ogra | she cares for everything here (lots of animals in the house, my food etc) | 01:28 |
| crimsun | for a second I thought you meant novell-suse | 01:28 |
| ogra | and she swings the whip before i fall asleep on my keyboard | 01:28 |
| JaneW | ogra: yes we had a slow start, but it was also a learning curve, and they should have antcipated that, also we lost many weeks after UDU with no one owning edubuntu | 01:28 |
| ajmitch_ | she is very good to you :) | 01:29 |
| JaneW | ogra: nice | 01:29 |
| ogra | JaneW, yup... but i could have done better.. | 01:29 |
| JaneW | ogra: though you need to find a new g/f or rename her *hide* | 01:29 |
| JaneW | (JOKING) | 01:29 |
| JaneW | is you cat recovered yet? | 01:29 |
| JaneW | s/you/your | 01:30 |
| === ajmitch_ just has his bugs to care for, no pets ;) | ||
| JaneW | ajmitch_: do you keep them in a jar? | 01:30 |
| ogra | yup, she is fine | 01:30 |
| JaneW | great | 01:30 |
| ajmitch_ | JaneW: no, on malone | 01:30 |
| JaneW | ogra: so is suse back now? | 01:30 |
| ajmitch_ | and debbugs for some :) | 01:30 |
| JaneW | ajmitch_: :) | 01:30 |
| ogra | yup, she's just reading ;) | 01:31 |
| === ogra thinks he should call suse by her irc nick (susus) to avoid the novell confusion | ||
| === ajmitch_ wonders how much of wwwconfig-common is safe to steal for moodle | ||
| ogra | ajmitch_, ask pitti about postgres db creation... | 01:33 |
| ogra | nobody can explain it better | 01:34 |
| ajmitch_ | ogra: do you want mysql creation as well? | 01:34 |
| ogra | people will want it i guess... | 01:34 |
| === ajmitch_ can do both, since he runs both on his home box :) | ||
| ogra | i personally would be fine with postgres... but we would make a big step away from debian with it | 01:34 |
| ogra | and i guess users will moan about it | 01:35 |
| ajmitch_ | they certainly will | 01:35 |
| ajmitch_ | I'd moan if only postgres was supported when the code can do both | 01:35 |
| === ogra cant belive mdz's comment for mediawiki after he refused to include it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue | ||
| ogra | thats unbelivable... | 01:36 |
| ogra | he rejected it completely... | 01:36 |
| ajmitch_ | I guess moodle will get the same fate | 01:36 |
| ogra | now he writes "needs integration earlier in a release cycle" | 01:37 |
| ajmitch_ | yeah :-/ | 01:37 |
| ogra | ajmitch_, he said its not supportable at alll | 01:37 |
| ajmitch_ | it's something you were counting on having? | 01:37 |
| ogra | when the report was agrred by pitti there was plenty of time... but due to his and pittis objections i dropped it | 01:38 |
| ogra | now it looks like i'd have put up the report to late... thas weird | 01:38 |
| ogra | (the inclusion report was from late july/early august) | 01:39 |
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| ajmitch_ | pitti says moodle has a horrible security history as well | 01:40 |
| ogra | ajmitch_, yes... | 01:41 |
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| Zaheer | yo mr highVoltage, like to give you a BIG UP on the great art work in edubuntu. :) | 02:11 |
| JaneW | hello highvoltage | 02:13 |
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| highvolt1ge | JaneW: hi | 02:22 |
| highvolt1ge | Zaheer: thanks, but i can't take credit for the artwork. it's from the gartoon icon theme. | 02:23 |
| Zaheer | still looks great tho' | 02:30 |
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| Zaheer | mr voltage are the tuxlabs strictly for schools? | 03:08 |
| jsgotangco | oh its a turnkey solution indeed | 03:08 |
| Karnaugh | Zaheer: educational institutions, yes. who else would need a tux lab? | 03:17 |
| Zaheer | well i know of a voluntary organization that empower the less fortunate with skills such as computers, but these are not school kids its more adults. | 03:20 |
| Zaheer | i was thinking of approaching them with the idea of using edubuntu to educate those peple. | 03:20 |
| Zaheer | reason why i asked was that i know the tuxlab project focuses more on schools. | 03:21 |
| jsgotangco | Zaheer: you can just use ubuntu itself if you want an ltsp environment really | 03:22 |
| Zaheer | no i would like to support edubuntu in everyway that i can :D | 03:23 |
| ogra | Karnaugh, small companies that want to save money for hardware through using thin clients ? municipalities etc that want centralized management ? | 03:23 |
| ogra | indeed they probably would rather use plain ltsp on top of a "non child branded" OS | 03:24 |
| Karnaugh | ogra: err, my understanding of the "tuxLab" concept is donation of linux powered machines, to educational institutions | 03:24 |
| ogra | Karnaugh, its a ltsp solution with added edu software and artwork for younger people... | 03:24 |
| ogra | if you take away the edu apps and the specialized artwork, you have a perfect solution for small offices etc | 03:25 |
| Karnaugh | http://www.tuxlab.org.za/ | 03:25 |
| jsgotangco | Zaheer: with a client, i just use Ubuntu with ltsp really... | 03:26 |
| Zaheer | cool, still have to figure out how to do that tho', been messing with the workstations only. | 03:27 |
| highvolt1ge | Zaheer: the model is designed with schools in mind, but we are also looking at installing in prisons, and have installed at libraries as well. | 03:27 |
| Zaheer | well let me approach them first and see what they say. | 03:29 |
| Zaheer | maybe they already have a computer program in place. | 03:29 |
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| spacey | JaneW, ping | 03:51 |
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| mhz_zzZ | MOIN Y'ALL | 04:09 |
| JaneW | spacey: pong | 04:11 |
| jsgotangco | mhz_zzZ: and its time for me to sleep =) | 04:12 |
| mhz_zzZ | bong | 04:12 |
| spacey | JaneW, i just got reply from school, and they accepted my proposal for working on ubuntu. so you got yourself a little helper now for after ubz ;) | 04:12 |
| jsgotangco | spacey: wow | 04:13 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: i woke up | 04:13 |
| jsgotangco | spacey: what will you be doing specifically? | 04:13 |
| jsgotangco | mhz: if it interests you, i've moved all docs in wiki form at the edubuntu website =) | 04:14 |
| jsgotangco | mhz: pig out =) | 04:14 |
| spacey | jsgotangco, to be decided at UBZ mostly, at least regarding edubuntu | 04:14 |
| spacey | also some other stuff | 04:14 |
| mhz | I know this may not be the right #channel BUT i already spent 19 hourse yesterday and I could not solve my stupid problem. Could someone help me understand why TFTP does not provide packages??? | 04:14 |
| JaneW | spacey: awesome! | 04:14 |
| spacey | yup :) | 04:15 |
| === spacey excited | ||
| JaneW | :) | 04:15 |
| jsgotangco | nice, free labor joke :) | 04:15 |
| Zaheer | anways im outta here... have a good evening,morning,afternoon everyone. l8tr :D | 04:19 |
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| magnon | JaneW: ask me about what? :P | 04:20 |
| magnon | :) | 04:20 |
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| JaneW | magnon: trolls | 04:20 |
| magnon | Oh, right | 04:21 |
| magnon | Jessica | 04:21 |
| magnon | and real trolls | 04:21 |
| magnon | we city people don't have many of the real ones though | 04:21 |
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| jsgotangco | good night =) | 04:23 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: nite | 04:24 |
| mhz | JaneW: if i recall correctly, you posted (or someone) a url about a this guy who had worked on a terrific proposal for breezy covers. Actually, those may have been the very first proposals. do you have that url?? | 04:25 |
| JaneW | mhz: yes | 04:27 |
| JaneW | une momento por favore | 04:28 |
| mhz | JaneW: yes as in "I can help you solve your TFTP problem" or as in "yes, I have that url" | 04:28 |
| JaneW | http://ubuntu.tux.com.au/gallery/ | 04:28 |
| mhz | JaneW: no hay problema, estoy acostumbrado a esperar :) | 04:28 |
| mhz | yep, that was it | 04:30 |
| mhz | .oO(very cool designer) | 04:30 |
| mhz | JaneW: is there an official Ubuntu Breezy CD cover yet? | 04:30 |
| mhz | (so I can work on the Edubuntu one) | 04:31 |
| JaneW | I haven't been able to find it, but there must be | 04:31 |
| JaneW | unfortunately the person I have to ask want there to NOT be edubuntu CDs | 04:31 |
| JaneW | sigh | 04:31 |
| mhz | I looked for it aprox. 5 hours, unsuccessfully | 04:31 |
| jsgotangco | JaneW: are we having a limited print run of pressed cds? | 04:32 |
| mhz | ok, no problem. We just need hm to mention what official Ubuntu cover will be, no need to mention about Edubuntu :) | 04:32 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: not fair, you were sleeping! | 04:32 |
| mhz | :) | 04:33 |
| JaneW | there's no plan for right now, but after the relase if we have a good stable and usable CD then I can motivate for 'a few hundred' now | 04:33 |
| JaneW | I may have to get them done locally | 04:33 |
| jsgotangco | JaneW: I can source over to some contacts from the local print media as well to check the costing | 04:33 |
| jsgotangco | JaneW: its usually done in Hong Kong | 04:34 |
| JaneW | but a few 100 makes it less cost effective | 04:34 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 04:34 |
| jsgotangco | let's test the market first =) | 04:34 |
| mhz | JaneW: where this dsigner come from? | 04:37 |
| JaneW | geographically? | 04:38 |
| JaneW | it's Sebastein Loss from France | 04:38 |
| JaneW | community member | 04:38 |
| jsgotangco | seems french | 04:38 |
| jsgotangco | bingo | 04:38 |
| jsgotangco | that's old artwork really | 04:38 |
| jsgotangco | a few weeks after breezy was announced | 04:38 |
| mhz | yes, hence my surprise! | 04:39 |
| mhz | he just did it, and he did a great job | 04:39 |
| JaneW | look I book marked that months ago, and haven't seen anything else... | 04:39 |
| jsgotangco | i won't be surprised if we'll be seeing drake artwork a few days after breezy is released | 04:40 |
| jsgotangco | but at the moment, Sebastien's artwork is the most professional-looking | 04:40 |
| jsgotangco | ok i gotta sleep now really | 04:41 |
| jsgotangco | good night | 04:41 |
| mhz | nite | 04:42 |
| JaneW | JaneW does anyone have designs for the Breezy CD covers and labels? | 04:43 |
| JaneW | jdub JaneW: silbs | 04:43 |
| JaneW | silbs JaneW: they aren't final yet - will upload to the wiki as soon as they are | 04:43 |
| JaneW | JaneW silbs: ok thanks | 04:43 |
| JaneW | silbs silbs: I can send you non-final versions if you are curious, but don't want them distributed yet | 04:43 |
| JaneW | JaneW silbs: we'd like a matching edubuntu design even if they don't get printed for us | 04:43 |
| JaneW | silbs cd packages should be final late today. cd faces are having colour problems, probably not final till next week | 04:43 |
| JaneW | jdub silbs: are we going to publish them to public wiki, or have 'unofficial' versions of them? | 04:43 |
| JaneW | JaneW silbs: so we are just looking at the general theme and idea, so far all we have to go on is : http://ubuntu.tux.com.au/gallery/CDcovers-etc | 04:43 |
| JaneW | silbs jdub: as above, "will upload to the wiki as soon as they are" final | 04:43 |
| jsgotangco | #c? | 04:43 |
| JaneW | yep | 04:46 |
| mhz | JaneW: as soo as I can see the release candidate, I'll work on a edubuntu idea | 04:47 |
| JaneW | ok, should be in the next day or 2 | 04:47 |
| mhz | np, as I said in spanish b4.. "I can wait" | 04:48 |
| JaneW | mhz: I gathered that what you said, since I know like 4-5 stock movie phrases I could have been certain though ;) | 04:50 |
| mhz | lol | 04:51 |
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| ogra | mmmmm :) | 04:52 |
| ogra | the edubuntu usplash works :) | 04:52 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 04:53 |
| jsgotangco | its actually nice | 04:53 |
| ogra | i havent seen it, its my first test install since 12 days :) | 04:53 |
| jsgotangco | ahh i install/update at least every 2 days | 04:53 |
| jsgotangco | night | 04:54 |
| ogra | screensaver and gcompris hacking kept me away from it | 04:54 |
| ogra | night jsgotangco | 04:54 |
| highvolt1ge | ogra: how's gcompris? | 05:03 |
| ogra | fine | 05:03 |
| ogra | try it ;) | 05:03 |
| ogra | it needs tester | 05:03 |
| ogra | s | 05:04 |
| highvolt1ge | ok. will do tonight. an apt-get update ; dist-upgrade should be fine, right? i don't need to download a new nightly build, right? | 05:04 |
| ogra | yup | 05:05 |
| highvolt1ge | and if i download it in normal breezy, will it be the same as edubuntu? | 05:05 |
| ogra | yup | 05:05 |
| highvoltage | ok. downloading now. | 05:05 |
| ogra | 6.5.3-2+7.0.2ubuntu1 is the recent version | 05:06 |
| highvoltage | cool. that's the one apt is downloading. | 05:07 |
| highvoltage | only going at 8kb/s though :/ should be finished in 42 minutes at least. | 05:07 |
| ogra | phew, thats slow | 05:07 |
| macgyver2 | Can anyone give me an estimate of the size of the edubuntu installs? | 05:26 |
| ogra | about 2.6 GB | 05:26 |
| macgyver2 | For each or combined? | 05:27 |
| ogra | ?? | 05:27 |
| ogra | for the install.... | 05:27 |
| ogra | actually its a bit less, but the final version will be around that value | 05:28 |
| macgyver2 | You've got the server then you have the clients, right? | 05:28 |
| ogra | its ltsp | 05:28 |
| highvoltage | macgyver2: are you talking about an ltsp setup? you only need to install it once, it doesn't require any more space for additional workstations. | 05:28 |
| ogra | its all on one machine | 05:28 |
| macgyver2 | Okay...guess I'll have to read more :) | 05:29 |
| ogra | since the ltsp server is our default install, the default install contains everything needed... this is about 2.4 to 2.6 GB | 05:29 |
| ogra | (it varys depending on the language you install) | 05:30 |
| macgyver2 | Okay, thanks very much. I wanted to play around with something so I decided to try to play with edubuntu under UML. | 05:31 |
| highvoltage | oooh. nice. no more complaining about missing images. | 05:32 |
| ogra | highvoltage, gc ? | 05:32 |
| ogra | :) | 05:32 |
| ogra | yes, the fix contains ~ 600 new icons | 05:33 |
| highvoltage | ogra: yes :) | 05:33 |
| highvoltage | :/ there is one place where it complains about language packs not being installed | 05:34 |
| JaneW | I'm off to yoga. Bye | 05:35 |
| ogra | have fun :) | 05:35 |
| ogra | highvoltage, where ? | 05:35 |
| ogra | the -en pack is installed by default, it shouldnt do that | 05:36 |
| ogra | but i'm pondering to drop the completely... since the audio files make no sense at all without sound | 05:37 |
| ogra | as well as i will disable all sound stuff on the desktop ... (soundserver, volume control) i think | 05:37 |
| mhz | good point | 05:39 |
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| ogra | highvoltage, if you find the place wher gc complains about missing langs, please file a bug with the list of gc packages you have installed and an explanation where exactly this occurs | 05:40 |
| highvoltage | under reading: click on a letter | 05:43 |
| highvoltage | ogra: where do i file the bug report again? | 05:43 |
| ogra | bugzilla.ubuntu.com | 05:43 |
| ogra | highvoltage, doesnt occur here | 05:47 |
| ogra | but i have the german sounds package installed... | 05:47 |
| highvoltage | this is on a breezy system, should that make a difference? | 05:47 |
| ogra | do you have gc-data gc-sounds-en installed there ? | 05:47 |
| ogra | these are needed | 05:48 |
| ogra | (they are installed by default with edubuntu) | 05:48 |
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| highvoltage | gcompris-data: yes, installed. gcomprix-sound-en: no, installing now. | 05:49 |
| highvoltage | gcompris-sound-en does not seem to install by default when you install gcompris on Ubuntu Hoary. | 05:50 |
| highvoltage | is this a bug, or normal? | 05:50 |
| highvoltage | and will this bug fall under ubuntu, or universe? | 05:50 |
| ogra | thats normal... you should install the language pack for your locale | 05:50 |
| ogra | ubuntu | 05:50 |
| highvoltage | ok. then i shouldn't file a bug? | 05:51 |
| ogra | but thats no bug if it works after installing the sound-en package | 05:51 |
| ogra | gcomprs recommends the sound packages, it doesnt depend on them | 05:51 |
| ogra | apt-cache show gcompris-data ;) | 05:52 |
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| scav | in what package is the "teacherspet" application? | 07:04 |
| ogra | there is no package .... its not ready for this release | 07:04 |
| ogra | i will care for a backport to breezy as soon as it hits dapper... | 07:05 |
| scav | cool | 07:06 |
| scav | havent tried edubuntu yet, looking forward for the first release, gonna test it right away :) | 07:06 |
| ogra | make sure to read http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting before installing, i try to keep it up to date with the remaining bugs you could encounter... so you are prepared | 07:07 |
| scav | nice :) | 07:07 |
| scav | im running a customized fc4 install for my school at the moment, got about 100 users on it. maybe i will switch to edubuntu.. love the desktop distro | 07:08 |
| ogra | :) | 07:10 |
| magnon | scav: have about 100 users at a place too, ubuntu so far, edubuntu after release :) | 07:11 |
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| highvoltage | JaneW: Fear Factor? | 08:49 |
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| yvesC | ogra: thanks ! | 10:13 |
| ogra | yvesC, please test it :=) | 10:13 |
| yvesC | The new gcompris package is perfect. | 10:13 |
| ogra | yay | 10:13 |
| ogra | thats a nice compliment :) | 10:13 |
| yvesC | administration works fine. I have selected working boards with filter, at hand. That works | 10:14 |
| ogra | fine | 10:14 |
| ogra | i'd love to have some automatic selection for the sound packages based on the installation locale but i doubt that will mak it before release in the installer | 10:15 |
| ogra | its a bit complicated to change... | 10:15 |
| yvesC | profiles works fine too. All seems ok. | 10:16 |
| yvesC | sounds. | 10:16 |
| yvesC | If gcompris is in the default install, you could put gcompris_sound_locale in langage_pack ? | 10:17 |
| ogra | nope, since i'd have to change langpacks for ubuntu... | 10:18 |
| ogra | that not feasable | 10:18 |
| yvesC | langpack are the same for ubuntu... | 10:18 |
| ogra | yup | 10:19 |
| ogra | i only can do it in the installer | 10:19 |
| yvesC | a mail from dpkg to inform the user ? | 10:19 |
| ogra | nah | 10:19 |
| ogra | i think for now i'll put a note in the install notes and install -en by default... | 10:20 |
| ogra | for next release there will be some intelligence in the installer | 10:20 |
| yvesC | ok | 10:20 |
| yvesC | gcompris should check that better too. For now there is just a dialog in click_on_letter if voices are missing. | 10:22 |
| bdoin | at some point, it would be great to discuss on how to integrate well all eduapp altogether by using some common api that makes user management and reporting easy. | 10:22 |
| bdoin | Have you already though about that ? is this important for you ? | 10:22 |
| ogra | its planned for dapper... | 10:22 |
| ogra | sorry guys, i have a meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now | 10:23 |
| bdoin | great | 10:23 |
| bdoin | no problem | 10:23 |
| yvesC | by | 10:23 |
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| yvesC | fonts-ttf-dustismo | 10:31 |
| yvesC | sorry, bad chan | 10:32 |
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