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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: ideas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || Make packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages || apt-get install adept kde-guidance || Breezy Preview http://www.kubuntu.org/breezy-preview.php || https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu | ||
| === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Wed Sep 21 02:52:46 2005 | ||
| === #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | ||
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| Tonio- | hi everyone | 09:45 |
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| Tonio- | Riddell: after many tests, I don't suggest you to include wlassistant.... | 09:46 |
| Tonio- | it has several bugs in fact.... | 09:46 |
| Tonio- | I will report that to the upstream, but when corrected, it will be rocking ;) | 09:46 |
| === Tonio- wonders why network configuration tools are so crapy with ubuntu...... | ||
| \sh | because yast is much more broken...so better just a handy vi and a conf file ,-=) | 09:51 |
| Tonio- | \sh: yep but I mean wlassistant, kdenetworkconf are working fine on other distro...... | 09:52 |
| Tonio- | I dunno what is specific on that point on ubuntu..... | 09:53 |
| Tonio- | kdenetworkconf has many bugs on ubuntu you will not find on other distros... | 09:53 |
| Tonio- | I don't hav problems with conf files of course, but I can't explain how to connect to a wifi network to my girlfriend with the shell ^_^ | 09:54 |
| \sh | Tonio-: depends what you wanna do..if wlan* is using /etc/network/interfaces everything should be fine... | 10:01 |
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| Tonio- | rahhhhhhhhhhh damned acpi......... | 10:09 |
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| amu | moin' | 10:27 |
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| \sh | chmj: ping | 11:02 |
| chmj | pong | 11:16 |
| chmj | \sh: pong | 11:17 |
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| JRe | it's right that kdenetworkconf is pretty unstable | 02:11 |
| Riddell | JRe: what's unstable with it? | 02:12 |
| JRe | i don't when i use it it often mess my /etc/network/interfaces file | 02:12 |
| JRe | tough it detect well all the interfaces | 02:13 |
| JRe | i also have a geometry error I can't see the Ok Apply, .. buttons | 02:14 |
| JRe | even in fullscreen mode | 02:14 |
| JRe | (1024*768) | 02:14 |
| JRe | (with system settings) | 02:14 |
| JRe | (well that's more a systemsettings bug because it does not do it with kcontrol) | 02:15 |
| JRe | and there is also the bug with kdesu | 02:17 |
| Tm_T | hmh | 02:18 |
| JRe | Riddell: BTW i have packaged libvisual to have the visualization enabled in amarok | 02:18 |
| Tm_T | JRe: oh good :) | 02:18 |
| hunger | K3B ignores the settings in /etc/default/cdrecord. | 02:18 |
| Tm_T | wellwellwell | 02:18 |
| hunger | and it tries to use the wrong device to burn for me. | 02:18 |
| JRe | Tm_T: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/apt/sources | 02:18 |
| JRe | Tm_T: (or directly http://jr.falleri.free.fr/apt/breezy64 if you have an amd64) | 02:19 |
| Tm_T | JRe: I compiled from sources ;) | 02:19 |
| JRe | :) | 02:19 |
| Tm_T | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109386 | 02:20 |
| JRe | Tm_T: it's pretty nice and it seems to have good plugins | 02:20 |
| Tm_T | JRe: yup | 02:20 |
| Tm_T | although I don't really use them :p | 02:20 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: there was a problem in the svg files of adept icons.... | 02:20 |
| JRe | Tm_T: but unfortunaly I don't manage to compile libvisual-plugins to have the GForce port :( | 02:20 |
| Tm_T | :/ | 02:20 |
| Tm_T | btw I can't get my nvidia working | 02:20 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: strangely some transparency effects in inkscape are not compatible with ksvg..... | 02:21 |
| Tm_T | so I use nv in my Xorg | 02:21 |
| JRe | Tm_T: there is a strange error with the configure script, it does not detect properly the X11 headers don't know why | 02:21 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: I modified them with karbon and they are now okay, may I send them to you by mail ??? | 02:21 |
| JRe | everyone can take a look to museeq too it's a QT soulseek client | 02:22 |
| JRe | (packaged in http://jr.falleri.free.fr/apt/sources) | 02:22 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: inkscape supporting stuff that ksvg1 doesn't isn't strange | 02:23 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: do they modified ones look any different? | 02:24 |
| JRe | Tm_T: if you want to try to compile libvisual-plugins go there; http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=106542&package_id=119413&release_id=303738 | 02:24 |
| Riddell | JRe: you can upload to revu | 02:24 |
| JRe | Riddell: libvisual ? | 02:24 |
| Riddell | JRe: yes | 02:25 |
| JRe | Riddell: ok | 02:25 |
| Tm_T | will this patch be included to kubuntu packages? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109386 | 02:26 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: not for breezy | 02:27 |
| hunger | k3bsetup does show an empty window only:-( | 02:27 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: ok | 02:27 |
| JRe | anyone else than me has trouble when burning audio cd's as non-root ? | 02:28 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: what's situation with kde packages & kubuntu? we'll get em on time? | 02:28 |
| JRe | I can do it but after the sound is ugly | 02:28 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: original ones don't display transparency when set as an icon in klauncher | 02:28 |
| Tonio- | or when displayed as a preview with kde 3.4.2 | 02:28 |
| Tonio- | let me just a minute to show you..... | 02:28 |
| JRe | there is also a problem with the normalize-audio package and k3b it should create a simlink in /usr/bin called normalize and pointing to normalize-audio | 02:29 |
| JRe | Riddell: should i take look to the normalize-audio package ? | 02:31 |
| JRe | Riddell: (or should i patch the k3b source code) ? | 02:32 |
| Riddell | 2004-06-26: The package and binary names had to be changed due to namespace | 02:33 |
| Riddell | conflicts. The binary normalize was renamed to normalize-audio so that it | 02:34 |
| Riddell | keeps orthogonal with its frontend names (normalize-ogg and normalize-mp3) | 02:34 |
| Riddell | while not using a generic name anymore. | 02:34 |
| Riddell | JRe: patch k3b if it's hard coded to run normalise | 02:34 |
| Riddell | See more information about it here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=250390 | 02:34 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: http://planetemu.net/temp/adept_problem.png | 02:34 |
| JRe | Riddell: yes changing the program name from normalze to normalzee-audio in k3b source | 02:34 |
| Riddell | The requested URL /temp/adept_problem.png was not found on this server. | 02:34 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: here it is, you can open the file finely, but preview has this bug.... | 02:34 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: and adding adept in klauncher applet causes the same bug | 02:35 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: what is klauncher applet? | 02:35 |
| Tonio- | in english it might be "application launcher" I assume | 02:35 |
| Riddell | where is this applet? | 02:36 |
| Tonio- | let me show you.... | 02:36 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: http://www.planetemu.net/temp/capture6.png -> look on the right | 02:37 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: problem with size and transparency...... | 02:37 |
| Tonio- | don't know the english term for this applet | 02:37 |
| hunger | K3B does not burn CDs in my setup. It asks cdrecord to use the wrong device. | 02:38 |
| hunger | It tries to burn to 1,0,0 (which is the device cdrecord -scanbus thinks it is), thus resulting in cdrecord trying to write to /dev/sg0 which is associated with my HD... Lucky me that I do not have permission to write there:-) | 02:39 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: http://planetemu.net/temp/adept_problem.png -> upload is finished, you can look at the bug in the preview | 02:39 |
| hunger | It should use /dev/sg1... and it does if I ask cdrecord to use dev=/dev/scd0 | 02:40 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: he image is perfect with inkscape, but has this probem..... sounds strange ! | 02:40 |
| hunger | smurf: I can't... no net on the ubuntu box. | 02:41 |
| Tm_T | Tonio-: yu, I found same problem couple months ago | 02:41 |
| JRe | Riddell: ok i have taken a look in k3b ands it's hardcoded. I'll patch it and send it to you. | 02:41 |
| Tonio- | Tm_T: I had to recreate the transparency effects with karbon, and then everything is perfect | 02:42 |
| Tm_T | oh | 02:42 |
| hunger | smurf: The CDRW is scsi1, chan 0, id 0, lun 0 in /scsi (HD is scsi0, chan 0, id 0, lun 0) (both are SATA drives). | 02:42 |
| Tonio- | Tm_T: yep, that's why I assume a inkscape bug | 02:42 |
| hunger | smurf: sg0 is 21,0 (mayor,minor), sg1 is 21,1 | 02:42 |
| Riddell | hunger: smurf is on #ubuntu-devel | 02:42 |
| hunger | Riddell: Sorry:-) | 02:43 |
| Tonio- | Tm_T: that sounds unbeleivable with an xml type document, but that's it..... | 02:43 |
| Tm_T | Tonio-: yes, gimp and ksvg & co does show it similar, but inkscape not | 02:43 |
| Tonio- | exactly, Riddell may I send you the corrected version built with karbon ? | 02:43 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: ok | 02:43 |
| Tonio- | I will certainly post a bug to inkscape for this...... | 02:43 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: I suspect it's a ksvg problem | 02:44 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: why then only inkscape show it "correctly" ? | 02:44 |
| Riddell | or even a KDE SVG preview problem | 02:44 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: inkscape doesn't use librsvg | 02:45 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 02:45 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: when I open the ile with karbon, transparency is lost also............. | 02:45 |
| Tonio- | is karbon isung parts of ksvg ? | 02:45 |
| Riddell | karbon uses ksvg1 yes | 02:45 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: that's why ;) | 02:45 |
| Tonio- | http://www.planetemu.net/temp/adept_manager.svgz | 02:45 |
| Tonio- | http://www.planetemu.net/temp/adept_updater.svgz | 02:46 |
| Tonio- | these ones are correct in both karbon, inkscape, konqueror and everything ;) | 02:46 |
| Tm_T | heh | 02:46 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: I can't find that kicker applet, and I don't see why it would be using SVG icons | 02:50 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: it is......... when I changed the svg Icon everything whent fine.... | 02:51 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: oh I believe you, I just don't understand why it's doing that :) | 02:53 |
| Tonio- | I don't know that | 02:54 |
| Tonio- | but I know that those corrected svg's will correct all the problems | 02:55 |
| Tonio- | also original svg's had a problem with the default size, corrected today ;) | 02:55 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: I'm just doing a last modification on the cd | 02:55 |
| Tonio- | (not same double curve on both | 02:55 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: with this applet you can set the icon size, so I assume it is using svg because of this.... strange that you don't find it, it is in kde for years ;) | 02:58 |
| Riddell | there's the Quick Launcher applet but that doesn't let you set the icons size | 02:59 |
| Riddell | as far as I can see | 03:00 |
| Tonio- | if you right click on the little arrow | 03:11 |
| Tonio- | in the menus you have 5 things | 03:11 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: add application, remove application, set icon size, keep space, lock | 03:12 |
| Tonio- | don't you see this ? | 03:12 |
| Riddell | yes | 03:13 |
| Riddell | that's shocking usability | 03:14 |
| Tonio- | so you can set the icon size | 03:14 |
| Riddell | set to 32 and it still doesn't use SVG | 03:14 |
| Tonio- | that's NICE to use :) | 03:14 |
| Tonio- | ah ????????? strange............ | 03:14 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: you sure you have the PNGs installed? | 03:14 |
| Tonio- | I have the package installed ;) | 03:14 |
| Tonio- | and yes I have the png's because icons are correct | 03:15 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: the package with the adept icon was only uploaded yesterday | 03:15 |
| Tonio- | if I add adept directly to the task bar, no problem | 03:15 |
| Tonio- | yep I updated this morning | 03:15 |
| Tonio- | and I then saw those problems.... | 03:15 |
| Tonio- | and I have the png's installed......... | 03:16 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: anyway, do you get the icon for both updater and manager in the K menu ? I don't get it for updater | 03:16 |
| Riddell | err yeah, it's installed to /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/adept/updater.png | 03:18 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: just send you an email with the two corrected svg files (just did a little correction on the CD) | 03:25 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: just tests all resolution and the launcher uses svg in all cases for me.... It's way to work is strange ;) | 03:27 |
| Tonio- | I just tested all resolutions <- that's better | 03:28 |
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| Riddell | hi jjesse | 04:30 |
| jjesse | hello Riddell | 04:33 |
| jjesse | did you get my link? | 04:33 |
| Riddell | jjesse: yes thanks | 04:34 |
| jjesse | cool no problem | 04:34 |
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| jjesse | just saw it | 04:46 |
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| StR | Hi all! | 04:48 |
| StR | I finaly saw the usplash! | 04:48 |
| Riddell | if anyone wants to sort out the colour palette in usplash that would be great | 04:49 |
| StR | Riddell: yes... well, I don't know if we should stay with usplash or change to splashy | 04:50 |
| StR | (we as in we-kubuntu) | 04:50 |
| Riddell | we'll use usplash | 04:50 |
| StR | lol.... | 04:50 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: concerning the coulour palette in usplash, would you like something more visible ? | 04:51 |
| StR | ok, i see you are not changing your mind | 04:51 |
| StR | something more blue, to stay with kde colors | 04:51 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: the colours should be brighter, currently the bottom half of the text is invisible on a dark monitor | 04:51 |
| Tonio- | yep | 04:51 |
| Tonio- | I can have a look if you want no pb | 04:51 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: but more importantly the colours needs to be in the correct order for the "ok"s and scrolar to show up | 04:52 |
| Riddell | "ok"s and scrollbar | 04:52 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: is there a file containing the color sheme ? | 04:52 |
| Riddell | where is my typing today? | 04:52 |
| Tonio- | same for me, my keyboard is about to die..... | 04:52 |
| Riddell | #define BACKGROUND_COLOUR 0 | 04:52 |
| Riddell | #define PROGRESSBAR_COLOUR 1 | 04:52 |
| Riddell | #define TEXT_BACKGROUND 0 | 04:52 |
| Riddell | #define TEXT_FOREGROUND 2 | 04:52 |
| Riddell | #define RED 13 | 04:52 |
| Riddell | so 0 should be black, 1 something much brighter, RED is the failed noticed which are fine as they are, TEXT BACKGROUND is probably "ok" which needs to be brighter | 04:53 |
| Riddell | so swap around the colours in the palette for that | 04:53 |
| Tonio- | okay | 04:53 |
| Tonio- | where is the actual file ? | 04:54 |
| Riddell | StR: I don't know the technical advantages of usplash over splashy but that's what ubuntu has so that's what kubuntu will use | 04:54 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: in kubuntu-default-settings | 04:54 |
| Riddell | source package | 04:54 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: okay I'll take it | 04:54 |
| Riddell | and kubuntu-artwork-usplash binary has the .so | 04:54 |
| Tonio- | have a look and prepare something for you toonigh | 04:54 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: cool | 04:55 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: no pb ;) | 04:55 |
| Riddell | jjesse: there's a bunch of stuff needs done on these release notes | 04:55 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: did you get my mail with the final svg files ? | 04:55 |
| jjesse | Riddell: i would love to change them | 04:55 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: yes, SVG files are in SVN | 04:55 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: k | 04:55 |
| Riddell | jjesse: you're just waiting for me to tell you what needs changed? | 04:55 |
| jjesse | i guess i don't really now everything that needs to be changed, i took a lot of it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuRoadmap | 04:57 |
| jjesse | is there a better place to look? | 04:58 |
| jjesse | and there is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseNotes | 04:58 |
| Riddell | jjesse: not everything in kubuntu roadmap got done | 04:58 |
| jjesse | i guess what i'm looking for is where can i pull the best information from? | 04:59 |
| Riddell | jjesse: asking me probably | 04:59 |
| jjesse | Riddell: can you let me know then what needs to be changed and i'll put it together | 05:01 |
| Riddell | kde-system-settings should be KDE System Settings | 05:01 |
| jjesse | ok | 05:01 |
| Riddell | KISDN never seems to have been uploaded, I'll try and fix that but it won't get into main | 05:01 |
| Riddell | qt parted isn't in main | 05:01 |
| Riddell | metabar and kompose likewise | 05:02 |
| Riddell | Kubuntu Device Database never got made | 05:02 |
| Riddell | and guidance isn't in main | 05:02 |
| Riddell | Krita is in | 05:02 |
| Riddell | openoffice 2 with KDE themeing | 05:03 |
| Riddell | kaffeine and amarok use gstreamer | 05:03 |
| jjesse | ok making notes and working on changes | 05:03 |
| Riddell | klaptopdaemon works for hibernate with acpi | 05:04 |
| Riddell | locate:/ can search for files in konqueror | 05:04 |
| Riddell | google bar in konqueror has google suggest | 05:04 |
| jjesse | graphical boot process w/ usplash? | 05:04 |
| Riddell | automounting happens so when you insert a CD or memory stick it pops up in konqueror | 05:05 |
| Riddell | jjesse: yes, usplash goodness | 05:05 |
| jjesse | x.org 6.8.2 w/ wider hardware support | 05:05 |
| Riddell | yes | 05:05 |
| jjesse | taking some things from breezy release notes | 05:05 |
| jjesse | language selector? | 05:05 |
| jjesse | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseNotes | 05:05 |
| Riddell | no language selector but we do at least ship with KDE language packs | 05:06 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: damn !!! it means that making one test includes modifying, compiling, installing and rebooting ??? ^_^ | 05:06 |
| Tonio- | that may take a while !! | 05:06 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: you can run usplash on the command line, but I'm not sure how you quit it once it's running | 05:06 |
| jjesse | from the on the server section in the release notes is that accurate (wiki page) | 05:06 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: ah ? good ;) | 05:07 |
| Riddell | jjesse: yes, that's all the same | 05:07 |
| jjesse | same w/ hardware support improvements | 05:07 |
| Riddell | jjesse: yes | 05:07 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: maybe I can try to use the blue colors of the dafault kdmtheme no ?? | 05:07 |
| StR | Tonio-: that's why I think we should use splashy! | 05:07 |
| Riddell | jjesse: adept-updater too for keeping your system up to date | 05:08 |
| Tonio- | StR: I don't now the technical advantages of usplash, but I must say that graphically, I really prefer splashy too ;) | 05:08 |
| Riddell | jjesse: amarok 1.3.1 (just because everyone seems to like am | 05:08 |
| Riddell | amarok) | 05:08 |
| jjesse | ok | 05:08 |
| jjesse | Riddell: are applications now linkined into the launchpad infrastructure | 05:09 |
| Riddell | jjesse: koffice 1.4 in main featuring kexi (but not on CD) | 05:09 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: any link explaining the technical advantages of usplash over splashy, please ???? | 05:09 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: no idea | 05:09 |
| Riddell | ask sladen, mjg59 or jbailey | 05:09 |
| StR | We should ask the #ubuntu-devel people | 05:10 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: KDE 3.4.2 of course | 05:10 |
| StR | but /me is still thinking in apt-get remove --purge usplash ; apt-get install splashy | 05:10 |
| Tonio- | I must say that the choice of usplash astonished me..... eye candy speaking, splashy is really much better | 05:11 |
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| jjesse | Riddell: i'll make the changes mentioned and upload it (hopefully tonight) | 05:12 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: what's better about splashy? | 05:13 |
| Tonio- | the graphical look (to me of course) | 05:16 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: more colours? better resolution? or just a nicer image? | 05:16 |
| Tonio- | according to me, better resolution, more colord and nicer image ;) | 05:16 |
| Tonio- | maybe that can be done using usplash and that just depends on the way it is configured..... | 05:17 |
| Riddell | I think the trouble is that a lot of PCs can't do more than 16 colour at 640x480 that early in boot | 05:17 |
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| Tonio- | did you saw a recent version of Suse booting Riddell ? | 05:18 |
| Tonio- | it is really nice, and I've run it on a very old machine with no problem | 05:18 |
| Tonio- | I don't know what they are using, is it a component of yast ? certainly..... | 05:18 |
| Riddell | they use bootsplash | 05:19 |
| Riddell | which has nothing to do with yast | 05:19 |
| Tonio- | okay | 05:19 |
| Riddell | ubuntu didn't like bootsplash because it's in kernel space | 05:19 |
| Riddell | I don't know anything other than that really | 05:19 |
| StR | Riddell: splashy is very simple to configure, it is a simple XML and a JPG, | 05:19 |
| Tonio- | okay thanks for the info ;) | 05:20 |
| Tonio- | all I know is that the result is a pleasure for the eyes ! | 05:20 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: may I change the png file or only the color sheme ? | 05:20 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: what do you want to change about it? | 05:21 |
| Tonio- | hum well I would like to test with the kdm theme image reduced to 640x480 | 05:21 |
| Tonio- | just to test.... | 05:22 |
| Tonio- | that would be blue and not mainly black of course | 05:22 |
| Tonio- | and so very different from ubuntu..... that's why I'm asking | 05:22 |
| Riddell | nah, it needs to be a kubuntu equivalent of the ubuntu image | 05:23 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: okay, that's what i wanted to know ;) | 05:23 |
| Tonio- | StR: according to what i can see usplash can be configured the same way.... | 05:24 |
| Tonio- | StR: simply I think that the different is simply that image, Ubuntu didn't choose a very colored image (most black in fact..........), but well, it's their distro ;) | 05:26 |
| StR | Tonio-: but you need to recomple usplash to make the changes? | 05:26 |
| aeig | the new system settings tool doesnt work well with activated double-click in kde | 05:28 |
| Tonio- | StR: apparently yes | 05:29 |
| Tonio- | aeig: what problem are you experiencing ? | 05:29 |
| Tonio- | I have double click activated and don't any problem systemsettings | 05:29 |
| Tonio- | +with | 05:29 |
| aeig | after a doubleclick, the show all button isnt usable | 05:30 |
| Tonio- | let me check | 05:30 |
| Tonio- | works for me............ | 05:30 |
| aeig | have you double-click to open files activated? | 05:32 |
| Tonio- | yep, I can't stand working with simple click (as an old windows user....) | 05:32 |
| Tonio- | in systemsettings, I can't double click (it is simple click based even in my case), but I don't have any problem | 05:33 |
| Tonio- | stupid, really stupid question, but when do you try to click on "showw all" | 05:33 |
| Tonio- | in a configuration tool ? or simply in the main windows (with all options available ?) | 05:34 |
| Tonio- | aeig: I know it sound a stupid question, but I try to understand when and how the button is blocked... | 05:35 |
| aeig | after a double click on appearance, a ahow all doenst bring me back | 05:35 |
| Tonio- | on appearance especially let me test ;) | 05:36 |
| Tonio- | na, no pb for me, I can go back using "show all" button.... strange....... | 05:37 |
| aeig | :-) | 05:37 |
| Tonio- | the only problem between you and me is that I have double click activated for kde | 05:37 |
| Tonio- | but in my case systemsettings works with simple click | 05:38 |
| Tonio- | I don't have to double click to go in appearance, 1 click is enough...... though I have double click for kde | 05:38 |
| aeig | i also have doube click activated for kde | 05:38 |
| Tonio- | aeig: do you have to doule click to go in "appearance" ? | 05:38 |
| aeig | now 1 click is enough | 05:38 |
| aeig | sorry no | 05:39 |
| aeig | 1 click is enough | 05:39 |
| Tonio- | okay, so I don't meet any problem...... sorrybut I can't help you on that point ;) | 05:40 |
| aeig | ok np | 05:40 |
| aeig | i have the problem if i make a very fast double click :-) | 05:43 |
| Tonio- | let me try ;) | 05:45 |
| Tonio- | aeig: you should be very, very fast because I'm clicking as fast as I can and no pb ^^ | 05:46 |
| aeig | :-) | 05:46 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: try it on Display | 05:46 |
| Riddell | then click Back | 05:46 |
| Riddell | http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/16434 | 05:47 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: it works...... | 05:51 |
| Riddell | breaks for me | 05:52 |
| aeig | me to | 05:52 |
| Tonio- | Ican't reproduce | 05:52 |
| Tonio- | I can double click, resize, fit to screen, go back and fit to screen again..... | 05:52 |
| Tonio- | I can see the bug on the screenshot, indeed.... I saw that once I remember, yes. But I can't reproduce it..... | 05:54 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: okay I have been to do it, but the double click has to be very, very fast ;) | 05:55 |
| Tonio- | aeig: good news, it breaks for me too, but Ireally have to want it due to the speed needed | 05:55 |
| aeig | Tonio: its for me a normal speed double click | 05:57 |
| aeig | Tonio: isnt it possible to activate the double click in the system settings tool if it is activated in kde | 05:59 |
| Tonio- | aeig: I must conclude I am a slow guy ^_^ | 06:00 |
| aeig | Tonio: ok seems not to be a problem for the most users | 06:02 |
| Tonio- | aeig: so I must conclude you are a fast guy :) | 06:03 |
| aeig | Tonio: :-) | 06:03 |
| Tonio- | also I'm working on a laptop so my double click speed is certainly limited by this | 06:03 |
| aeig | Tonio: you should test it with a usb mouse | 06:05 |
| Tonio- | aeig: I will on my desktop computer toonigh | 06:06 |
| aeig | ok | 06:07 |
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| Tonio- | Riddell: I download the kubuntu-default-settings as you said, but I am not able to find where the colors are defined....... | 06:11 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: in the .png file | 06:11 |
| Tonio- | ah it take the colors directly from the png ? okay, I was searching a text based file ;) | 06:13 |
| Riddell | the PNG file will have a palette and the colours in it need swapping around so they match the numbers I mentioned before | 06:14 |
| Tonio- | yes okay I can understand now ;) | 06:15 |
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| Tonio- | back to GIMP..... | 06:29 |
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| allee | Tonio-: wlassistant: No bugreports of you in sf bug tracker. No time yet? | 09:04 |
| Tonio- | absolutly :) | 09:05 |
| Tonio- | I assume I will perform that tomorrow, it is on my todo list but I have a 80 pages doc to read..... I have to prepare a Xen virtualized server tomorrow :-( | 09:06 |
| allee | 'k. Did you notice that 'link quality' not updated on scan? | 09:06 |
| allee | Tonio-: oh, good luck | 09:06 |
| Tonio- | yep I saw that, as well as when you disconnect you cannot reconnect and have to perform a "dhclient" then the connection loads correctly.... | 09:07 |
| Tonio- | did you notice that ? | 09:07 |
| Tonio- | allee: I know gsx server very well but am not very comfortable with xen actually..... will see ;) | 09:07 |
| allee | Tonio-: no. I had no 'internet' connection during my tests so I got kicked of because google could not be pinged | 09:08 |
| Tonio- | that's a problem..... wlassistant bugging, kdenetworkconf bugging...... | 09:08 |
| Tonio- | not easy to perform connections whithout going in the shell....... | 09:08 |
| allee | I read it in the logs | 09:08 |
| allee | Tonio-: yes network setup needs still much work | 09:09 |
| Tonio- | yep, I will post a bug report tomorrow evening, but tonight, no time for this ;) | 09:09 |
| allee | 'k. Happy reading | 09:09 |
| Tonio- | I hope Guidance will perform a network conf tool ;) | 09:09 |
| Tonio- | that would be great ;) | 09:09 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: just poke sebas lots | 09:09 |
| Tonio- | I have to learn python this year, work my job, wo maybe I will try to do it in the next month, that may not be that hard..... | 09:10 |
| allee | Riddell: kdenetworkconfig shares backend with gnome. Maybe it's more efficient to fix kdenetworkconf | 09:11 |
| Riddell | allee: that's my thinking too | 09:11 |
| Tonio- | allee: talking about the xml files used to store parameters ? | 09:11 |
| Tonio- | I have a friend of mine who is a very good C++ coder.... if you send me a complete bug list, maybe he can have a look... | 09:12 |
| allee | Tonio-: for wlassistant? | 09:13 |
| Tonio- | for kdenetworkconf :) | 09:13 |
| Tonio- | if kdenetworkconf is patched to work correctly, wlassistant will be technically unnecessary | 09:14 |
| Tonio- | but kubuntu needs one working networkconf tool | 09:14 |
| Riddell | does gnome-system-tools/knetworkconf have and wireless stuff in it? | 09:16 |
| allee | ah, time to look into kdenetworkconf again. Is this a 'breezy goal'? | 09:16 |
| Tonio- | kdenetworkconf has | 09:16 |
| Tonio- | I don't know if that is using gnome-system-tools...... | 09:17 |
| Riddell | it uses the same backend | 09:17 |
| Tonio- | I know but is the wireless stuff of kdenetworkconf using that backend too, I don't have any idea | 09:18 |
| Riddell | I imagine so | 09:18 |
| Tonio- | so do I :) | 09:18 |
| Tonio- | okay let's go with usplash, and then read that xen doc ! | 09:19 |
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| Tonio- | Riddell: concerning the patch for default route when in static IP I haven't been able to find the sources unfortunatly, only the binary package....... | 09:20 |
| Tonio- | I just know that aslinux has patched it..... | 09:22 |
| Tonio- | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39098 -> as been discussed here | 09:23 |
| Tonio- | let's search again ;) | 09:23 |
| Tonio- | damn their repo doesn't have source.... | 09:30 |
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| sebas | Tonio-: Actually I'm waiting for someone to pick up network-manager and code a KDE frontend (I heard rumors that someone is working on it). | 11:13 |
| Riddell | sebas: knetworkconf | 11:17 |
| sebas | Riddell: Is that a frontend to networkmanager? | 11:18 |
| Riddell | no, to gnome-system-tools | 11:18 |
| Riddell | which one is networkmanager? | 11:18 |
| sebas | That gnome applet is network-manager | 11:18 |
| sebas | fab blogged about it some days ago. | 11:18 |
| Riddell | right, don't think anyone is working on that | 11:19 |
| Riddell | needs dbus bindings didn't clee say? | 11:19 |
| sebas | Yep. | 11:19 |
| sebas | It gets notified of cable unplugging and that sort of stuff via dbus. | 11:19 |
| JRee | sebas: hum interessting :) | 11:19 |
| JRee | sebas: where are the source of guidance ? | 11:20 |
| sebas | What do the profiles do in knetworkconf? | 11:20 |
| sebas | JRee: In playground in kdesvn or on Simon's website. | 11:20 |
| JRee | k | 11:20 |
| sebas | If you want to hack on it - please :) | 11:21 |
| JRee | sebas: will see if i can do something :) | 11:21 |
| sebas | JRee: Great! | 11:21 |
| Riddell | if it was done as part of guidance that would mean you could use python dbus bindings and not care about kde dbus bindings | 11:22 |
| sebas | Not that the python dbus bindings are really stable, API wise yet. | 11:24 |
| JRee | is there anyone else than me who has the nasty bug with systemsettings default size ? | 11:26 |
| JRee | (on 1024*768) | 11:26 |
| Riddell | JRee: yes | 11:27 |
| JRee | Riddell: ok i'll inspect that | 11:29 |
| JRee | Riddell: there is the patch for k3b here: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/devel/kubuntu_04_fix_normalize.diff | 11:29 |
| JRee | Riddell: it enable debian renamed normalize-audio on k3b | 11:30 |
| sebas | systemsettings is broken here wrt the size, the dialogues aren't shown completely in there. | 11:30 |
| JRee | sebas: it definitively need a fix ;) | 11:31 |
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