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| === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | The kernel is not in, please leave a message after the beep...OOPS, unable to handle kernel paging request | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ playground: kernel-debian--mainline--2.6.12 (preX,19) | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by BenC at Tue Sep 27 03:58:29 2005 | ||
| === #ubuntu-kernel [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | ||
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| zul | good day folks | 03:46 |
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| crimsun | hi | 03:47 |
| crimsun | dpatch posted for #15031 | 03:57 |
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| makx | hello | 05:29 |
| makx | i've some questions regarding the ubuntu linux package | 05:29 |
| makx | does it use kernel-package? | 05:29 |
| makx | how's initramfs-tools integrated? | 05:30 |
| fabbione | makx: yes.. it uses k-p | 05:30 |
| fabbione | and initramfs is integrated via k-p | 05:30 |
| makx | fabbione: cool so there are patches to use initramfs-tools | 05:30 |
| fabbione | it's one liner.. but it is also configurable | 05:31 |
| fabbione | meaning that we share the same config with Debian | 05:31 |
| makx | nice :) | 05:31 |
| fabbione | except that we default to initramfs | 05:31 |
| fabbione | debian to initrd | 05:31 |
| fabbione | users can override the default | 05:31 |
| fabbione | (in both) | 05:31 |
| makx | ok that would help also in debian for the transition. | 05:31 |
| makx | thanks for the info fabbione!!! :) | 05:32 |
| fabbione | makx: the transition is not painful, but you need to get klibc to work all arches | 05:32 |
| fabbione | otherwise it's useless to use mkinitrd | 05:32 |
| fabbione | for what we know: sparc/i386/amd64/ppc are good with klibc | 05:33 |
| fabbione | but ia64/hppa no | 05:33 |
| fabbione | (sparc building with gcc3-3) | 05:33 |
| makx | well mips/mipsel should work too | 05:33 |
| fabbione | so there are still several problems around | 05:33 |
| makx | yes libgcc troubles on sparc | 05:33 |
| fabbione | yeah.. gcc-4.0 is borked to death | 05:33 |
| fabbione | i have no idea about mips/+sel | 05:34 |
| fabbione | never ever seen one of these machines | 05:34 |
| makx | no idea i like the new gcc warnings + optimization, but sure it bites on low level stuff. | 05:34 |
| fabbione | yeah | 05:35 |
| fabbione | and it bites hard | 05:35 |
| makx | klibc build fine on alpha/s390 | 05:36 |
| makx | no idea if it works altough. | 05:37 |
| fabbione | yeah the build is not really the problem | 05:37 |
| fabbione | it's get them to work | 05:37 |
| fabbione | on sparc it did build fine | 05:37 |
| fabbione | except it was builded with the wrong options | 05:38 |
| fabbione | building it properly was a FTBFS | 05:38 |
| fabbione | due to gcc-4.0 | 05:38 |
| fabbione | so it took a while | 05:38 |
| fabbione | it's important.. extremely important that you do a kernel upload with initrdtools... | 05:38 |
| fabbione | and the next one change to initramfs with no other changes | 05:39 |
| fabbione | mark the line clearly | 05:39 |
| fabbione | because if klibc is borked, it looks like a kernel OOPS | 05:39 |
| fabbione | so you need to be able to recognize that | 05:39 |
| makx | nice advice indeed. | 05:39 |
| fabbione | by a very specific version number | 05:39 |
| fabbione | well we did go trough this on our own .. that's why | 05:40 |
| makx | well 2.6.13 forces initramfs-tools a bit with !devfs. | 05:40 |
| fabbione | we don't have 2.6.13 | 05:40 |
| fabbione | but the point is | 05:40 |
| fabbione | you still have .12, right? | 05:40 |
| makx | well it's only the config removed. | 05:40 |
| makx | but not allowed to touch .12 atm because of d-i beta. | 05:40 |
| fabbione | if so.. before uploading .13 | 05:41 |
| fabbione | take some extra time to switch .12 | 05:41 |
| fabbione | and merge the changes later into .13 | 05:41 |
| fabbione | so you have exactly the same good known codebase | 05:41 |
| fabbione | with the init* change | 05:41 |
| makx | where could i ask scott ot add intramfs-tools and klibc for patch monitoring? | 05:42 |
| makx | s/ot/to/ | 05:43 |
| fabbione | i think they are monitored automatically... | 05:44 |
| fabbione | but you can just mail him | 05:44 |
| makx | well currently not, ok i'll do. | 05:44 |
| fabbione | probably because there are no differences between Debian and Ubuntu | 05:45 |
| fabbione | if there are no diff, there is no dir | 05:45 |
| makx | naa, there are. :-P | 05:46 |
| makx | small bits... | 05:46 |
| makx | i know them usually, but those diff's are nice checker. :) | 05:48 |
| jbailey | makx: At the moment they're not inherited from Debian, so I don't think they'll be monitored. | 06:01 |
| jbailey | makx: That can change after breezy easily enough. | 06:01 |
| jbailey | My first upload after Breezy releases will call it 1.0, turn it into a non-native deb, and also make it share nice between the two of us. | 06:02 |
| zul | ooh...when we will see nilfs 1.0 in the ubuntu kernel ;) | 06:06 |
| fabbione | what's that???? | 06:06 |
| fabbione | nullfs?? | 06:07 |
| fabbione | very useful to redirect all the spam :) | 06:07 |
| jbailey | It's for people who miss the good old days of there being random sparse blocks in the middle of files ;) | 06:08 |
| fabbione | eheh | 06:19 |
| makx | jbailey: scott told me that it will happen after breezy. | 06:33 |
| makx | didn't knew the patches were bound to released packages, but it makes sense. :) | 06:33 |
| dilinger | <dilinger> Known Bugs | 06:52 |
| dilinger | <dilinger> The system hangs on a disk full condition. | 06:52 |
| dilinger | ^ nilfs | 06:53 |
| zul | fabbione its on slahdot | 07:01 |
| lamont__ | W: linux-source-2.6.12 source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.1 | 07:08 |
| lamont__ | heh | 07:08 |
| crimsun | It's probably too late to apply the patch in #15031, right? | 07:09 |
| crimsun | oops on boot for people with an ALC880 codec using the Intel High Definition audio driver | 07:10 |
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| zul | well it looks like im on going to be there for the firstday at ubz | 08:07 |
| lamont__ | zul: cool! | 08:15 |
| lamont__ | first day == 30 or 29? | 08:15 |
| zul | the ubuntulove day | 08:41 |
| zul | wouldnt miss my second love ;) | 08:41 |
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| jbailey | zul: Yay! You can come out drinking with me. =) | 10:58 |
| zul | hehe.. | 11:12 |
| zul | i have to work the next day though | 11:12 |
| zul | later | 11:19 |
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