=== prevod [i=prevod@147.91.175.49] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === prevod [i=prevod@147.91.175.49] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === ubuntulog [n=ubuntulo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | The kernel is not in, please leave a message after the beep...OOPS, unable to handle kernel paging request | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ playground: kernel-debian--mainline--2.6.12 (preX,19) === Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by BenC at Tue Sep 27 03:58:29 2005 === #ubuntu-kernel [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-87-201-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === chmj [n=chmj@wbs-146-145-179.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === desrt [n=desrt@24.215.14.137] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:46] good day folks [03:47] hi [03:57] dpatch posted for #15031 === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-105-094.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont__ [n=lamont@15.238.6.74] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Nafallo [i=nafallo@unaffiliated/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Nafallo [i=nafallo@unaffiliated/nafallo] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Read] === mkrufky [n=mkrufky@user-12lcl1s.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === makx [n=max@baikonur.stro.at] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:29] hello [05:29] i've some questions regarding the ubuntu linux package [05:29] does it use kernel-package? [05:30] how's initramfs-tools integrated? [05:30] makx: yes.. it uses k-p [05:30] and initramfs is integrated via k-p [05:30] fabbione: cool so there are patches to use initramfs-tools [05:31] it's one liner.. but it is also configurable [05:31] meaning that we share the same config with Debian [05:31] nice :) [05:31] except that we default to initramfs [05:31] debian to initrd [05:31] users can override the default [05:31] (in both) [05:31] ok that would help also in debian for the transition. [05:32] thanks for the info fabbione!!! :) [05:32] makx: the transition is not painful, but you need to get klibc to work all arches [05:32] otherwise it's useless to use mkinitrd [05:33] for what we know: sparc/i386/amd64/ppc are good with klibc [05:33] but ia64/hppa no [05:33] (sparc building with gcc3-3) [05:33] well mips/mipsel should work too [05:33] so there are still several problems around [05:33] yes libgcc troubles on sparc [05:33] yeah.. gcc-4.0 is borked to death [05:34] i have no idea about mips/+sel [05:34] never ever seen one of these machines [05:34] no idea i like the new gcc warnings + optimization, but sure it bites on low level stuff. [05:35] yeah [05:35] and it bites hard [05:36] klibc build fine on alpha/s390 [05:37] no idea if it works altough. [05:37] yeah the build is not really the problem [05:37] it's get them to work [05:37] on sparc it did build fine [05:38] except it was builded with the wrong options [05:38] building it properly was a FTBFS [05:38] due to gcc-4.0 [05:38] so it took a while [05:38] it's important.. extremely important that you do a kernel upload with initrdtools... [05:39] and the next one change to initramfs with no other changes [05:39] mark the line clearly [05:39] because if klibc is borked, it looks like a kernel OOPS [05:39] so you need to be able to recognize that [05:39] nice advice indeed. [05:39] by a very specific version number [05:40] well we did go trough this on our own .. that's why [05:40] well 2.6.13 forces initramfs-tools a bit with !devfs. [05:40] we don't have 2.6.13 [05:40] but the point is [05:40] you still have .12, right? [05:40] well it's only the config removed. [05:40] but not allowed to touch .12 atm because of d-i beta. [05:41] if so.. before uploading .13 [05:41] take some extra time to switch .12 [05:41] and merge the changes later into .13 [05:41] so you have exactly the same good known codebase [05:41] with the init* change [05:42] where could i ask scott ot add intramfs-tools and klibc for patch monitoring? [05:43] s/ot/to/ [05:44] i think they are monitored automatically... [05:44] but you can just mail him [05:44] well currently not, ok i'll do. [05:45] probably because there are no differences between Debian and Ubuntu [05:45] if there are no diff, there is no dir [05:46] naa, there are. :-P [05:46] small bits... [05:48] i know them usually, but those diff's are nice checker. :) [06:01] makx: At the moment they're not inherited from Debian, so I don't think they'll be monitored. [06:01] makx: That can change after breezy easily enough. [06:02] My first upload after Breezy releases will call it 1.0, turn it into a non-native deb, and also make it share nice between the two of us. [06:06] ooh...when we will see nilfs 1.0 in the ubuntu kernel ;) [06:06] what's that???? [06:07] nullfs?? [06:07] very useful to redirect all the spam :) [06:08] It's for people who miss the good old days of there being random sparse blocks in the middle of files ;) [06:19] eheh [06:33] jbailey: scott told me that it will happen after breezy. [06:33] didn't knew the patches were bound to released packages, but it makes sense. :) [06:52] Known Bugs [06:52] The system hangs on a disk full condition. [06:53] ^ nilfs [07:01] fabbione its on slahdot [07:08] W: linux-source-2.6.12 source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.1 [07:08] heh [07:09] It's probably too late to apply the patch in #15031, right? [07:10] oops on boot for people with an ALC880 codec using the Intel High Definition audio driver === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:07] well it looks like im on going to be there for the firstday at ubz [08:15] zul: cool! [08:15] first day == 30 or 29? [08:41] the ubuntulove day [08:41] wouldnt miss my second love ;) === fs [i=fs@213.178.77.98] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fs [i=fs@213.178.77.98] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:58] zul: Yay! You can come out drinking with me. =) [11:12] hehe.. [11:12] i have to work the next day though [11:19] later === chmj [n=chmj@wbs-146-145-179.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel