[12:00] <virgule> ::hrrmrmmmphhh!!::
[12:01] <teh_pwner> kbrooks, i got it from here http://developer.berlios.de/projects/gift-ares/
[12:01] <demiurge> I'm having a problem with the nvidia drivers on breezy, I installed the restricted driver package, but they don't seem to be in there
[12:01] <kbrooks> teh_pwner: tar -xjvf file
[12:02] <confrey> confrey, I don't think so, try /etc/init.d/acpi restart
[12:02] <confrey> I need help to use pcmcia on my laptop : I can't see card inserted in
[12:02] <teh_pwner> that didn't work
[12:03] <dooglus> I'm having problems with movie subtitles.  mplayer won't show czech characters, and totem-xine will, but only in a small font.  can someone help with either problem please?
[12:03] <Ronald> !java
[12:03] <ubotu> java is probably to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[12:03] <dooglus> teh_pwner: just use "tar xf file"
[12:03] <kbrooks> dooglus: No.
[12:03] <dooglus> kbrooks: why?
[12:04] <kbrooks> xf is for a *plain tar file*
[12:04] <BlurredWe> hey, how do I change the services that start via the command line?  (ie, something in /etc/init.d that I want to start on boot)
[12:04] <dooglus> kbrooks: it works on plain files too
[12:04] <kbrooks> dooglus: I ask you please use the extension
[12:04] <kbrooks> '.tar.bz2'
[12:04] <teh_pwner> tar: file: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[12:04] <teh_pwner> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:05] <kbrooks> you extract with bunzip2, THEN untar
[12:05] <dooglus> kbrooks: what do you mean?
[12:05] <kbrooks> teh_pwner: thats just a example
[12:05] <_chavo> tar will bunzip the file also -> tar xjf
[12:05] <_chavo> j is for bunzip
[12:05] <jmg> confrey: i have a toshi
[12:06] <confrey> jmg, laptop?
[12:06] <kbrooks> _chavo: v is needed to show him  where the extraction goes
[12:06] <jmg> confrey: yeah
[12:06] <ghb> How do I edit /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[12:06] <dooglus> kbrooks: "tar xf" works on .tar files as well as .tar.gz and .tar.bz2.  you don't need to use "j" and "z" any more
[12:06] <confrey> jmg, is pcmcia  working?
[12:06] <propagandhi> ghb: nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:06] <jmg> confrey: don't use
[12:07] <ghb> propagandhi: Thank you, I'll try that.
[12:07] <jmg> confrey: im also on kubuntu so i dont get gnome-powermanager
[12:07] <kbrooks> dooglus: I don't believe you, and won't, even with proof
[12:07] <dooglus> kbrooks: just try it!
[12:07] <La_PaRCa> um... yeah, so, next time anyone hears me say im upgrading to the latest release, remind me not to do it before i _FREE_ appropriate space in my hdd
[12:07] <lllmanulll> dooglus, Sorry, the "xvzf" sequence is hard-coded into my fingers :-p
[12:08] <kbrooks> dooglus: just tried, and it works ;)
[12:08] <dooglus> kbrooks: I don't believe you.  and won't, even with proof.
[12:08] <kbrooks> dooglus: Stop mocking me
[12:08] <nalioth> lllmanulll: make aliases
[12:09] <lllmanulll> nalioth, Right :)
[12:09] <dooglus> kbrooks: interestingly, the file doesn't even have to have a .tar.bz2 extension.  you can rename it to anything you like, and tar will still see that it's bz2'ed
[12:10] <cafuego_> that's not interesting, that's magic.
[12:10] <demiurge> are you supposed to install the -nvidia-legacy package?
[12:10] <Determinist> any of you guys have a PDA with windows mobile on it?
[12:11] <_chavo> yup, it's sorcery. It's EVIL!
[12:11] <cafuego_> demiurge: if you have a geforce4 or older, yes.
[12:11] <cafuego_> _chavo: No, *magic*
[12:11] <_chavo> oh yeah, that too
[12:11] <cafuego_> Specifically, /etc/magic
[12:11] <dooglus> cafuego_: /etc/magic I guess
[12:11] <jmg> Oct  4 10:55:42 localhost kernel: [4294909.822000]  mtrr: base(0xd8020000) is not
[12:11] <jmg>  aligned on a size(0x300000) boundary
[12:11] <jmg> Oct  4 10:55:43 localhost shutdown[8203] : shutting down for system halt
[12:11] <kbrooks> tar uses libmagic?
[12:11] <demiurge> no, i have a new card
[12:12] <_chavo> well not having .bz2 breaks my bash_completion, so meh to that
[12:12] <demiurge> but it doesn't seem to have the drivers in the regular package
[12:12] <cafuego_> kbrooks: it may have built-in magic strings for its supported archives types.
[12:12] <dooglus> cafuego_: it's even stronger magic than you thought - /etc/magic is empty!
[12:12] <demiurge> modprobe nvidia fails
[12:12] <_chavo> I have to haxor bash_completion to be magic too
[12:12] <cafuego_> !find magic
[12:12] <ghb> propagandhi: I still can't edit that file menu.lst. =(
[12:12] <jmg> demiurge: nice nick
[12:12] <cafuego_> stupid bot
[12:13] <demiurge> thank you
[12:13] <propagandhi> ghb: are you doing it as root
[12:13] <_jason> ghb:  are you using sudo?
[12:13] <ghb> propagandhi: Umm...no...
[12:13] <_chavo> he's still looking
[12:13] <jmg> confrey: i am using klaptop and enabled suspend on close lid
[12:13] <propagandhi> that explains it
[12:13] <ghb> _jason: I'm using something called nano, apparently...
[12:13] <ghb> propagandhi: I'll log in as root.
[12:13] <_jason> ghb: sudo gedit file
[12:13] <propagandhi> no, just do sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:13] <kbrooks> ghb: nano is a good text editor
[12:13] <_jason> ghb:  or "sudo nano file" whatever you prefer
[12:14] <confrey> jmg, I always had problems using that option, I dismissed kde by this fact
[12:14] <ghb> propagandhi: Okay... I can't login as root because I don't know the password... =(
[12:15] <confrey> I sleep only by button sleep, and resume by power button
[12:15] <cafuego_> ghb: there is no root password.
[12:15] <propagandhi> it should be the same as urs
[12:15] <demiurge> ghb: do   sudo nano file
[12:15] <demiurge> and put in your user password
[12:15] <ghb> Too much info at once...!
[12:15] <cafuego_> ghb: ie: you cannot log in as root. You should use 'sudo'.
[12:15] <dooglus> tar has the magic strings hardcoded in buffer.c
[12:15] <dooglus> for example:   { ct_bzip2,    "BZh",      3, "bzip2", "-j" },
[12:15] <cafuego_> ergo, it's magic ;-)
[12:15] <dooglus> ("BZh" is the bzip2 magic string)
[12:16] <propagandhi> ghb: its simple, just do 'sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[12:17] <ghb> propagandhi: I did...and I made the changes, but they don't save.
[12:17] <demiurge> it puts some nvidia files in /lib/linux-restricted-modules but nothing in my /lib/modules/kernelver/
[12:17] <dwuerz> hello! trying to install ubuntu on my laptop...but it always hangs on starting hotplug subsystem :(
[12:17] <demiurge> nothing useful anyway
[12:17] <cafuego_> ghb: When you run the command propagandhi pasted, you will be asked for YOUR password.
[12:17] <ghb> cafuego: I used that.
[12:17] <ghb> cafuego: I can enter the file and everything, and I make the changes, then do CTRL+X and save, and then CTRL+X and 'No' in order to exit.
[12:17] <cafuego_> ghb; yep. WHen running through sudo, you have root privileges, so you can save that file again.
[12:17] <virgule> pretty please, tell me how to fix this puzzle. Much thanks..  http://pastebin.com/382079
[12:18] <ghb> cafuego: How do you save the file...?
[12:19] <propagandhi> ghb: choose Y to write changes
[12:19] <propagandhi> instead of N
[12:19] <ghb> propagandhi: I do that. =(
[12:19] <ghb> propagandhi: And it says "File Name to Write: /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[12:19] <confrey> bye, time to sleep
[12:19] <ghb> propagandhi: But still nothing's being saved...
[12:19] <propagandhi> ghb: yes, and then u just press enter
[12:20] <propagandhi> and it should drop u out of nano
[12:20] <ghb> propagandhi: Hey! Now it worked! *yaaay*
[12:20] <ghb> *prays to God that it works*
[12:21] <demiurge> no ideas about the nvidia drivers?
[12:21] <demiurge> they just seem to be absent
[12:21] <cafuego_> demiurge: afaik, it installs old versions of nvidia libraries.
[12:21] <tony_the_cable_g> I cannt find where a program placed its folders. The program is aMule.
[12:21] <demiurge> so just use the legacy versions
[12:21] <demiurge> ?
[12:21] <cafuego_> demiurge: That's as much as I know, my card isn't very crusty as of yet.
[12:22] <ghb> propagandhi: Can you help me again...? My laptop won't boot now... =(
[12:22] <propagandhi> ghb: whats the error
[12:23] <ghb> propagandhi: I removed the lines "acpi=off noacpi" and now it just hangs, liked it did when I tried to install Ubuntu.
[12:23] <propagandhi> ok, well when you get to the grub menu press 'E' i think it is, and you can add that line again to make it boot
[12:23] <dwuerz> ghb: I am having the same problem...but i cant even run it the first time :(
[12:25] <ghb> dwuerz: If you type "acpi=off noacpi", it should be able to boot. At least it works for me when I use it...
[12:25] <dwuerz> ghb: tried that but didnt succed :(
[12:25] <ghb> propagandhi: I don't like the idea of not being able to use ACPI on my laptop. Any idea on how to fix it?
[12:25] <ghb> dwuerz: You got a laptop?
[12:25] <dwuerz> yes
[12:25] <ghb> dwuerz: Hmm. No idea, to be frank. I'm new to Linux too.
[12:26] <cafuego_> See if there's an updated bios, see if the problem is something else (www.linux-laptop.net) or get a laptop that works ;-)
[12:26] <virgule> wtf is "abi-2.6.12-9-powerpc" ??
[12:26] <dwuerz> ghb: hold on I'll try again...i always put noapic...maybe noacpi works ;)
[12:27] <_native_> hey guys what is a good gui app for wireless card configuration. the networking applet dose not seem to even work setting up WEP and yes my card is supported and yes i know howto config it manually. just need a app that works. so i have to. :-}
[12:27] <kbrooks> i want colors on my bash prompt
[12:27] <_native_> * dont have to ;-P
[12:27] <ghb> dwuerz: Ah. That might be the problem. =)
[12:27] <cafuego_> _native_: There's a network thingie that you can add to the panel. See also 'wifi-radar'.
[12:27] <FhaeTon> does anyone know which nForce chipset drivers are needed to run Ubuntu on a 64bit rig?
[12:28] <demiurge> ok, i guess i'll just try to compile them from source
[12:28] <ghb> cafuego: On my laptop, there's a button to activate the WLAN. It works flawlessly in Windows XP, but not in Ubuntu. Any way to activate it?
[12:28] <demiurge> with the nvidia-kernel-source package
[12:28] <cafuego_> FhaeTon: They're in the kernel. Just insert cd & boot.
[12:28] <vitriol> anybody know how to set up a bluetooth mouse?
[12:28] <vitriol> there's no docs on it
[12:28] <cafuego_> FhaeTon: You do _NOT_ need to fetch driver from the nvidia site.
[12:28] <_native_> "a network thingie" nice.....
[12:28] <FhaeTon> oh
[12:28] <_native_> :-)
[12:28] <demiurge> yeah, i'm running nforce4 with 64 bit opterons right now
[12:28] <cafuego_> FhaeTon: What mobo do you have?
[12:29] <vitriol>       00:0A:94:C0:DB:AE       Bluetooth  Mouse
[12:29] <vitriol> dunno how to just make it work
[12:29] <vitriol> :\
[12:29] <dwuerz> well...now i dont even come that far...new error: "BIOS handoff failed" :(
[12:29] <FhaeTon> ASUS SLI premium
[12:29] <ghb> dwuerz: You typed "acpi=off noacpi", right?
[12:29] <FhaeTon> ASUS A8N-SLI Premium
[12:29] <dwuerz> ghb: yes
[12:29] <ghb> dwuerz: In that order? Dunno if it matters...
[12:30] <dwuerz> no, the other way around
[12:30] <cafuego_> FhaeTon: Ought to be fine, then.
[12:30] <ghb> dwuerz: Try switching them.
[12:30] <dwuerz> I'll try the other way around :) thanks
[12:30] <FhaeTon> ok
[12:30] <FhaeTon> ok then I need help partioning my HDs
[12:31] <vitriol> nobody knows how to set up bluetooth mice/keyboards?
[12:31] <kbrooks> is the ubuntu wiki under a string freeze
[12:31] <dwuerz> ghb: same error :( this is driving me mad
[12:31] <cafuego_> FhaeTon: Just don't be tempted to use the on-mobo raid.
[12:31] <ghb> dwuerz: =(
[12:32] <dwuerz> ghb: thanks anyways
[12:32] <Spudchat> hi everybody
[12:32] <Spudchat> im editing the xorg.conf and was wondering what "metamodes" are
[12:32] <ghb> dwuerz: You're welcome. Sorry for not being able to fix it.
[12:32] <_native_> cafuego, what wireless card are you using? atheros based or prism?
[12:32] <cafuego_> _native_: prism2 (802.11b)
[12:33] <dwuerz> ghb: no problem...I hope someone else can help me here ;) *help plz*
[12:34] <_native_> yeah prism is so good under linux, i bought the AR5112 based netgear before i was informed of the openness of the prism chips
[12:34] <cafuego_> Shit, I'm over quota on my DSL <heh>
[12:34] <cas> Hi, I'm trying to let my orinoco card support scanning. I've installed patched orinoco modules but they aint working. Does anyone got the same problems or fixed this another way?
[12:34] <ghb> When I use the "Battery Charge Monitor" in the panel, it says that my battery is empty, but it's not. How do I fix this?
[12:34] <propagandhi> http://www.arnnet.com.au/index.php?id=1997501638&eid=-100
[12:34] <_native_> my atheros sucks sort of.
[12:34] <propagandhi> ghb: i think that requires the acpi
[12:35] <dwuerz> no one an idea how to pass "starting hotplug subsystem" ?
[12:35] <ghb> propagandhi: Hmm... I figured as much... But how can I activate it?
[12:35] <propagandhi> dwuerz: does CTRL+C work
[12:35] <propagandhi> i'm not sure, i've had no problems, what laptop is it
[12:35] <cafuego_> 802.11g has shit range, not highly useful at my place.
[12:36] <dwuerz> propagandhi: tried that before as I found it after a google search...didnt work....asus a6va
[12:36] <ghb> propagandhi: It's a build that I bought from a company that makes them, called "Komplett". I think it's built on a MSI system.
[12:36] <demiurge> hmm, it says my kernel was compiled with rivafb support
[12:36] <propagandhi> ghb: hmmm, i dont think i can help unless you can give a better idea on the board specs etc
[12:37] <ghb> propagandhi: I'll see what I can dig up.
[12:37] <dwuerz> ctrl+c isnt doin anything :(
[12:38] <_native_> my card supports a,b,g
[12:38] <_native_> its killer
[12:38] <_native_> :-)
[12:39] <propagandhi> dwuerz: do u have any USB devices plugged in
[12:39] <ghb> propagandhi: I can't find a name or model of the motherboard, but it says that it supports ACPI 1.0b & 2.0
[12:39] <dwuerz> propagandhi: no, nothing but my ethernet cable
[12:39] <nootrope> so, ubuntu is for regular folks, eh? how come i have to go thru i-don't-know-what-permutations to try (unsuccessfully) to get my wifi to conncet. i'm running PowerPC HH on a powerbook. is there a setup app similar to pppoeconf?
[12:39] <propagandhi> ghb: sorry, I can only assume that particular board isnt well supported
[12:40] <ghb> propagandhi: =(
[12:40] <FhaeTon> which Primary network should I use when installing ubuntu? I have 2 choices eth0: nVidia or eth1: Marvell Gigabit ethernet?
[12:40] <demiurge> how does modprobe know where to look for modules?
[12:40] <cas> nootrope: try out "network-manager"
[12:41] <_native_> right on! wifi-radar is COOL. my roaming nightmare has ended
[12:41] <_native_> i love GNU/linux
[12:41] <nootrope> thatks cas
[12:42] <TokenBad> what version of linux is ubuntu made after?
[12:42] <yoink23> !tell yoink23 about javadeb
[12:42] <apokryphos> TokenBad: debian
[12:42] <FhaeTon> I don't want to spam my question
[12:42] <nootrope> cas: it shows the wireless adapter but it has no IP. i can ping my router tho
[12:42] <dwuerz> when i boot single mode it says: "missing kernel[..] "
[12:42] <apokryphos> FhaeTon: good idea ;-)
[12:43] <TokenBad> apokryphos, what I mean is like linux-x86-k6-elf? or freebsd-x86-k6-a.out? stuff like that
[12:43] <FhaeTon> did u see it?
[12:43] <FhaeTon> I shall instead refer everyone to time 17:40
[12:43] <apokryphos> TokenBad: eh? Tweaked/patched Linux kernels; not freebsd
[12:43] <jmg> FhaeTon: choose which one your network cable is plugged in
[12:44] <ghb> propagandhi: This is all I can find: http://www.msicomputer.com/NB/product_spec.asp?model=MS-1012
[12:44] <FhaeTon> hmmm
[12:44] <FhaeTon> but is one better
[12:44] <Spudchat> hi guys
[12:44] <apokryphos> hi
[12:44] <Spudchat> i just edited the xorg conf for tv out
[12:44] <_native_> later gators. ;-] 
[12:44] <Spudchat> do i have to enable it somehow?
[12:45] <TokenBad> hmm
[12:45] <TokenBad> cause program will not make on here
[12:45] <apokryphos> what's the error?
[12:46] <Spudchat> oy :( i just installed nvtv and it says no supported video card found
[12:46] <TokenBad> it is x86 right?
[12:46] <TokenBad> meaning for a pc that ran windows
[12:47] <apokryphos> TokenBad: it's x86 if you have x86
[12:47] <demiurge> hey, i figured it out
[12:47] <demiurge> i had to run depmod
[12:47] <apokryphos> TokenBad: there's also ISOs for PPC, x86_64
[12:48] <demiurge> for it to recognize my new kernel modules
[12:48] <dmacdonald111> Hi all. I have just purchased and installed an AMD 64 bit motherboard and was wondering how the 64bit version of ubuntu handles
[12:48] <apokryphos> dmacdonald111: not bad at all; pacey :)
[12:48] <maddler> dmacdonald111: greatly! :)
[12:48] <TokenBad> apokryphos, its not ubuntu installing..its a "generic" linux program that should work on all versions of linux
[12:48] <TokenBad> and had it work on here before
[12:48] <apokryphos> dmacdonald111: heh, ok, my kdelibs compiled in like ten minutes :)
[12:48] <TokenBad> just trying to remember how
[12:48] <dmacdonald111> really? cool. Do I have to download the whole image and re-install or is there a way to upgrade?
[12:49] <apokryphos> TokenBad: yes... but you were asking about ubuntu. Nevermind, what is the actual error?
[12:49] <apokryphos> dmacdonald111: whole reinstall
[12:49] <dwuerz> :( no one able to help me?
[12:50] <dmacdonald111> cool. Thanks apokryphos. I shall start downloading! :)
[12:50] <TokenBad> well the install says to type make...then pick which version matches your system
[12:50] <TokenBad> but not sure which one matches
[12:50] <apokryphos> TokenBad: could you pastebin all the options?
[12:50] <dwuerz> when i try to run single mode: "missing kernel or user mode driver hw_random
[12:51] <demiurge> all fixed
[12:51] <TokenBad> apokryphos, done
[12:51] <jmg> asrrgh why does my laptop power off
[12:51] <apokryphos> TokenBad: link?
[12:52] <cas> jmg: lid closed?, heating problem?
[12:52] <TokenBad> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2746
[12:52] <svref> gnome volume meter has a [X]  on it.  I have a ISA "vibra 16" soundcard.  How to tell ubuntu this information?
[12:52] <Spudchat> is the pci bus always 7 digits?
[12:53] <dwuerz> am giving up :( no ubuntu for me
[12:53] <mr_unix> Hi guys, I cant get my touchpad to work in Ubuntu
[12:54] <jmg> cas: not lid close... just klaptop suspend even
[12:54] <mr_unix> Does someone know how to change mirror , you know when I want to update my Linux Ubuntu 5.04
[12:54] <apokryphos> TokenBad: not sure what ubuntu uses; I'd guess it uses ELF binaries (they're pretty common these days on Linux), but not sure. So, either 1st or 4th I'd guess
[12:54] <JDigital> Hey guys, I'm burning a DVD with growisofs, but it's like
[12:54] <JDigital> :-( unable to open64("/dev/dvd",O_RDONLY): No such file or directory
[12:55] <cas> mr_unix: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list put your country code in front every url
[12:55] <JDigital> How come the system's not seeing my DVD drive?
[12:55] <propagandhi> dwuerz: you wuitter
[12:55] <mr_unix> If someine like to help me tomorrow with my Ubuntu 5.04 please add my msn >> tomiking@msn.com
[12:56] <none_-> JDigital, /dev/dvd is a link to the real device
[12:56] <propagandhi> quitter
[12:56] <none_-> dmesg|grep DVD
[12:56] <cas> mr_unix, like deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/
[12:56] <none_-> should output the real device
[12:56] <Spudchat> grrrrrrrrrrr why cant i get video out ! :(
[12:56] <JDigital> hda: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[12:56] <JDigital> hda: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
[12:56] <jmg> cas: i see this error: Oct  4 11:42:20 localhost kernel: [4295957.239000]  mtrr: base(0xd8020000) is not
[12:56] <jmg>  aligned on a size(0x300000) boundary
[12:56] <none_-> so hda is what you are looking for
[12:56] <JDigital> How can it be hda
[12:56] <jmg> and then it shuts down
[12:56] <JDigital> hda is normally a hard drive
[12:57] <none_-> JDigital, you are booting from CD-ROM
[12:57] <jmg> cas: the thing is my session resumes completely before it shuts down
[12:57] <JDigital> But I'm not using a LiveCD.
[12:57] <virgule> the jumpers
[12:57] <none_-> it doesn't matter
[12:57] <none_-> check the BIOS
[12:57] <JDigital> Ohh.
[12:57] <dwuerz> propagandhi: wuitter? quitter? ... you got any hints for me...I really want to get it work
[12:57] <JDigital> Yeah, I think I have it boot to CD first.
[12:57] <TokenBad> apokryphos, think the first one worked
[12:57] <TokenBad> thanks
[12:57] <dwuerz> I think its usb...but dont know how to disable it
[12:57] <none_-> there's your problem
[12:58] <none_-> it tends to be either hdb or hdc
[12:58] <none_-> try either of those next time you are doing whatever
[12:58] <dwuerz> propagandhi: am just desperate as its not even booting once :(
[12:58] <jmg> cas: also when i reboot it doesnt properly reboot
[12:59] <JDigital> Aha. I have /dev/hda in my fstab as /media/cdrom0
[12:59] <cas> jmg, Sorry, I really can't say what is wrong. Sounds seriously. Maybe you should report a bug
[01:00] <propagandhi> dwuerz: sorry i am back. you get a grub menu is that correct?
[01:00] <dwuerz> yes...perfectly correct...
[01:00] <dwuerz> ...but after that...errors :(
[01:00] <JDigital> I wonder why /dev/dvd worked earlier
[01:01] <vitriol> 0 is false and 1 is true right?
[01:01] <shivi> has anybody been able to view dvds in breezy?how?
[01:01] <vitriol> HIDD_ENABLED=0
[01:01] <virgule> jmg: do you recall setting up any kind of 'shutdown after n minutes' either in Ubuntu or Windows? Im thinking it might be a residual parameter.. but I only know that much. Try to diseable these functions in both Ubuntu and Windows.
[01:01] <vitriol> false?
[01:01] <ghb> I might have solved my ACPI problem on my laptop -- I updated the BIOS. ^^
[01:01] <shivi> has anybody been able to view dvds in breezy?how?
[01:01] <dwuerz> nolapic noapic acpi=off ... nothing helps :(
[01:01] <virgule> mind the typos
[01:01] <jmg> ghb: hmm i should do that
[01:01] <JDigital> vitriol: 1
[01:01] <ghb> dwuerz: Still having troubles with the ACPI? =(
[01:01] <vitriol> jokes aren't very helpful....
[01:02] <dwuerz> ghb: yes...i think but am not even sure...
[01:02] <dwuerz> its just not booting
[01:02] <propagandhi> dwuerz: whats the exact error again
[01:02] <ghb> AWESOME! ACPI is currently activated on my laptop! I recommend a BIOS update if you have problems with Ubuntu on your laptop!
[01:02] <vitriol> ghb: what laptop?
[01:03] <dwuerz> ghb: i'll give it a try
[01:03] <JDigital> Maybe I have to mount /dev/dvd manually
[01:03] <virgule> ACPI bugged us down with a Toshiba
[01:03] <ghb> vitriol: It's a MSI S260 (or also called 1012)
[01:03] <virgule> I'll notice him
[01:03] <chrisbudden14> Anyone had any sucess using ati propriotry drivers and hibernation in breezy
[01:03] <vitriol> ghb: were you having trouble with your clock running fast?
[01:03] <dooglus> I'm having problems with movie subtitles.  mplayer won't show czech characters, and totem-xine will, but only in a small font.  can someone help with either problem please?
[01:03] <ghb> vitriol: Umm, no, not that I'm aware of...
[01:03] <vitriol> ghb: if that was the problem, to know for sure if it worked you can do 'time sleep 10'
[01:03] <vitriol> ghb: my clock was running fast ;)
[01:03] <enajeirak> hello, anyone know if you can use icq on ubuntu??
[01:04] <vitriol> 1 second == 2
[01:04] <virgule> enajeirak: gaim
[01:04] <dooglus> enajeirak: you can use gaim, which works with ICQ
[01:04] <enajeirak> i tried, and it wouldnt log me in
[01:04] <dooglus> enajeirak: you have to be able to remember your password
[01:04] <enajeirak> i logged into aim that way ,, i do remember it
[01:05] <ghb> vitriol: What are the symptoms that I have clock running fast...?
[01:05] <shivi> has anybody been able to view dvds in breezy?how?
[01:05] <jmg> virgule: im having problems on my A10 with it
[01:05] <vitriol> ghb: if it was running fast you'd see 'losing ticks' in dmesg
[01:06] <vitriol> ghb: also, if you did 'time sleep 10' and it went by in 5 seconds....
[01:06] <HrdwrBob> jmg: A10? a large anti tank aircraft?
[01:06] <ghb> vitriol: Hmm... What's "dmesg"?
[01:06] <vitriol> ghb: also, your clock would be off....it'd be in the future
[01:06] <jmg> HrdwrBob: i wish. Satellite A10
[01:06] <vitriol> ghb: go to a command prompt and type 'dmesg'
[01:06] <vitriol> dmesg (8)            - print or control the kernel ring buffer
[01:06] <ghb> vitriol: Righto.
[01:06] <jmg> HrdwrBob: i'd definately post to testimonials if i got ubuntu running on my warthog.
[01:06] <vitriol> it gives you information about system messages and stuff....
[01:06] <jmg> HrdwrBob: Actually, i should rename my laptop.
[01:06] <ghb> Damn, it's getting late... But this is so much fun! X
[01:06] <ghb> Xd
[01:06] <ghb> XD
[01:07] <ghb> jmg: My laptop is named Slimjim. =)
[01:07] <jmg> ghb: Our database server is slimjim
[01:07] <ghb> jmg: Cool. =D
[01:07] <ghb> vitriol: What am I looking at...?
[01:07] <dell500> how do i find out what my ip is?
[01:07] <dell500> in console
[01:07] <ghb> dell500: Do a "ifconfig"
[01:07] <HrdwrBob> jmg: ahh nice :)
[01:08] <virgule> broadband ?
[01:08] <dwuerz> www.myipaddress.com
[01:08] <virgule> I used to use this line as a #!/bin/bash file -- it work just right
[01:08] <dell500> i just used the Image Server thing on the ubuntu guide, how do i get these pictures on the net?
[01:08] <virgule> /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr' | sed -e 's/.*r://' | sed -e 's/ B.*//'
[01:09] <ghb> virgule: Well... I guess that's one solution... ^^
[01:09] <FhaeTon> Hello I need help partioning
[01:09] <ghb> I think I'll call it a day... Good night, everybody. And thanks for the help!
[01:10] <sn0n> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/     is there a more.. bleeding edge release then that..
[01:10] <ghb> dwuerz: Good luck with your installation.
[01:10] <virgule> I though setting up an alias instead but I went this way so I could add some #comments to make things look good
[01:10] <dwuerz> ghb: thanks
[01:10] <sn0n> i'd rather download a 'current to the day' one.. so i dont have to hassle with more updates
[01:10] <Rylie> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:11] <nalioth> sn0n: is this smokin hot enough for ya  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[01:11] <sn0n> thnx
[01:11] <sn0n> perfect :-D
[01:11] <org__> O WELL.
[01:12] <FhaeTon> ok does anyone know how 2 Hard drives are supposed to be partitioned if your gonna use software raid0?
[01:12] <mwright1nigh1> /whois sabdfl
[01:13] <apokryphos> mwright1nigh1: Mr. Shuttleworth :P
[01:13] <JustSteve> FhaeTon ,drives have to be equal size. when i did it i didn't partion them at all
[01:13] <FhaeTon> the drives are the same
[01:14] <FhaeTon> but my understanding is one must use 3 partitions on each drive?
[01:14] <dell500> is it possible to use just my ip address for the localhost/gallery/ on my computer?
[01:14] <nalioth> dell500: just use localhost://
[01:14] <JustSteve> i'm not sure about software raid in *nix, i did it in Windows with the nvidia driver
[01:14] <Grid_block> Hey is there any Mouse skinning device for ubuntu?
[01:15] <dell500> well i wanna publish it on the net
[01:15] <dell500> like give it out as a link
[01:15] <propagandhi> Grid_block: do you mean mouse cursor/pointer themes
[01:15] <nalioth> dell500: then yes
[01:15] <dell500> well i'm behind a router
[01:15] <dell500> can i get around that somehow?
[01:15] <Grid_block> propagandhi, yes like Cursorxp just for linux
[01:16] <propagandhi> dell500: set port forwarding on the router to your local IP
[01:16] <propagandhi> Grid_block: theres cursor themes on http://www.kde-look.org, they also show you how to install
[01:16] <dell500> how do i find out what port it is?
[01:16] <propagandhi> port 80
[01:16] <jmg> no bios update for my box :(
[01:16] <propagandhi> if thats what your webserver is running on
[01:17] <UltrA> anybody have a question? i'm willing to help
[01:17] <Someguy_> I am trying to enable WPA so I can connect to my wireless network but I only find WEP
[01:17] <Grid_block> propagandhi, well i only got gnome.. will it work?
[01:17] <pie> anybody in for someone new..?
[01:17] <virgule> What is the answer to the Great Question?
[01:17] <Maus> UltrA: I have one
[01:17] <JustSteve> 42
[01:17] <apokryphos> virgule: 42
[01:17] <virgule> !!
[01:17] <ubotu> [!]  what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[01:17] <apokryphos> speedy :O
[01:17] <UltrA> Maus: go ahead
[01:18] <nootrope> cas rules!
[01:18] <Maus> UltrA: When I updated just a few minutes ago, I got an error stating that dependency problems prevent configuration of mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[01:18] <dwuerz> am having the newest version of the bios :(
[01:18] <UltrA> I had the same erro
[01:18] <dell500> how do i use a certain directory for my photos? or do i have to transfer it to a certain folder?
[01:18] <UltrA> Maus:I had the same error
[01:18] <pie> Hola amigos!
[01:18] <Maus> UltrA: and that is because mozilla-firefox is not yet configured
[01:19] <propagandhi> Grid_block: sorry I assume too much
[01:19] <UltrA> Maus: You probably also have the firefox package
[01:19] <propagandhi> perhaps http://art.gnome.org?
[01:19] <Maus> UltrA: So what went wrong, and how do I fix it.
[01:19] <Maus> UltrA: Yes, I do.
[01:19] <UltrA> Maus: remove one or the other mozila-firefox or firefox, they conflict
[01:19] <propagandhi> can anyone help me with airsnort
[01:19] <Someguy_> So, can anyone assist me to find out how to enable WPA on my laptop?
[01:20] <jmg> hmmm
[01:20] <pie> ...help...!
[01:20] <uruguaian> HELLO
[01:20] <Maus> UltrA:  Wait, no.  Firefox is not installed, just mozilla-firefox
[01:20] <jmg> klaptop is clobbering my suspend configuration
[01:20] <UltrA> Maus: what error do you get
[01:20] <Doonz> hey hows the 64 bit support in ubuntu ?
[01:20] <apokryphos> pretty good
[01:21] <org__> 64 bit as in memory cash?
[01:21] <uruguaian> i've the ubuntu 5.04 CD.. and checking the site 5.10 is the next version?
[01:21] <UltrA> Maus: try installing mozilla-firefox-gnome-support yourself maybe you'd get a more descript error
[01:21] <Doonz> 64bit as in cpu
[01:21] <apokryphos> org__: no, as in the CPU architecture ;-)
[01:21] <JDigital> Yeah. out in a tenday
[01:21] <JustSteve> 64bit OS support is fine, just not a ton of apps
[01:21] <org__> i see
[01:21] <org__> how do i check what is my cpu?
[01:21] <shivi> has anybody been able to view dvds in breezy?how?
[01:21] <Doonz> ok thats what i thought
[01:21] <Maus> UltrA: dphg: error processing mozilla-firefox (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:22] <Kilter> is there a good howto for ubuntu + samba PDC?
[01:22] <pie> Is there some-one out there, who can explane me how to install plug-inss? (to day is my first day with UBUNTU...)
[01:22] <UltrA> Maus: what's the line before that?
[01:22] <apokryphos> totally_noob: uname -a
[01:22] <UltrA> Maus: dpkg probably spit it out
[01:22] <totally_noob> apokryphos, ok then
[01:22] <bimberi> Someguy_: there is this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto - although it's not one of the better wiki pages :|
[01:22] <totally_noob> Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:22] <totally_noob> so
[01:23] <Maus> UltrA: Updating mozilla-firefox chrome registry...rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions/installed-extensions.txt': Operation not permitted
[01:23] <Someguy_> bimberi, thank you, checking it now :-)
[01:23] <UltrA> Maus: do you have firefox open right now?
[01:23] <mhz> could someone give me a hand an tell me what is I am doing wrong in a try to install from local netboot???
[01:23] <Maus> UltrA: I can't open it
[01:23] <UltrA> Maus: and did you use sudo?
[01:23] <aven> hi
[01:24] <aven> um, doesn't ubuntu come with 'make'?
[01:24] <Maus> UltrA: I used Synaptic
[01:24] <satafterh> I have a question, i install breezy bata, if i just keep updating it as updates are available will i need to install the final release when it comes out or will the updates give me the same thing??
[01:24] <apokryphos> totally_noob: there you have it -- i686: 32-bit
[01:24] <UltrA> Maus: try it from the command line
[01:25] <dwuerz> plz help! anyone! still cant get past hotplug subsystem :(
[01:25] <totally_noob> apokryphos, 32-bit and ubuntu is working great!
[01:25] <UltrA> Maus: also try running sudo killall firefox-bin before it
[01:25] <totally_noob> apokryphos, so why you asking for 64-bit?
[01:25] <esac> has anybody noticed that after last nights update they are missing the trash icon ?
[01:25] <Maus> UltrA: ok
[01:25] <aven> so. anyone know if ubuntu comes with 'make'?
[01:25] <apokryphos> totally_noob: well, 32-bit is of course the runaway most-widely used; 64-bit is reasonably new
[01:25] <pie> Oke guis..., I need a littlle more time for all of this...., goodnight!
[01:25] <bimberi> aven: make isn't installed by default but it's available in the repositories (i'm not sure if its on the CD)
[01:25] <esac> aven: yes, it comes with make
[01:25] <aven> how do I install it? :\
[01:25] <apokryphos> aven: you need build-essential package (comes with the CD) to do any real compiling
[01:25] <JustSteve> aven apt-get build-esseintials
[01:25] <bimberi> aven: install build-essential
[01:25] <totally_noob> apokryphos, I see.
[01:26] <esac> aven: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:26] <JustSteve> or however it's spelt
[01:26] <Maus> UltrA: No processes killed
[01:26] <apokryphos> hi bimberi; how've you been? :)
[01:26] <Maus> UltrA: Try what, exactly?
[01:26] <aven> ok, it's installed
[01:26] <jcsteele> hello all, i am trying to mount an external ide->usb ide hard drive, which is an openbsd ffs partition/slice....is ubuntu capable of mounting this type of partition./slive ?
[01:26] <aven> but it's still not working :\
[01:26] <aven> do I have to reboot?
[01:26] <apokryphos> aven: no. What's the error?
[01:27] <ompaul> there is no s on the end of build-essential
[01:27] <bimberi> hi apokryphos good thanks, we've had a long weekend over 'ere :)
[01:27] <esac> no you should never have to reboot except for a new kernel
[01:27] <aven> "target not specified and make not found"
[01:27] <apokryphos> bimberi: oh?
[01:27] <totally_noob> mget is really slow.
[01:27] <bimberi> apokryphos: monday was a public holiday in parts of oz
[01:27] <apokryphos> aven: err, what are you trying to compile? Mind you, I'd be surprised if you really did install it that quick
[01:27] <apokryphos> ah
[01:27] <aven> unrealircd, an ircd software
[01:27] <apokryphos> bimberi: started Uni, so -- suffice it to say -- it's been a crazy week :)
[01:28] <vengeful> unreal sucks ;-)
[01:28] <aven> well, what are good ircd software?
[01:28] <Kilter> can anyone help with samba on ubuntu?  there isn't a lot of response in #samba
[01:28] <UltrA> Maus: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:28] <vengeful> ultimateircd
[01:28] <UltrA> Maus: or sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-gnome-support if that fails
[01:28] <apokryphos> !tell Kilter about samba
[01:28] <aven> but, the network I'm linked to uses unrealircd
[01:29] <aven> would they work together?
[01:29] <vengeful> ah sorry to hear that
[01:29] <vengeful> nope
[01:29] <aven> :\
[01:29] <ompaul> aven, to not have all that work to do, choose to execute the following command >> apt-cache search ircd << and then choose something from there
[01:29] <UltrA> Maus: also did you follow the ubuntu guide
[01:29] <Plebeuz> shut up just shut up
[01:29] <bimberi> apokryphos: oh yes, i have a fading memory of when i started uni, crazy it was :)
[01:29] <dell500> is there a place I should put the photos if i'm going to serve them?
[01:29] <esac> does anybody use gmailfs which comes with ubuntu ?
[01:29] <Kilter> apokryphos: the problem specifically is in connecting a windows client to the domain I created.  I just don't know where the problem is or how to track it down
[01:29] <Maus> UltrA: It was just a routine update, like I had done many times before.
[01:29] <apokryphos> bimberi: Average sleep has been max 4 hours :P; amazing time, but intensive!
[01:30] <UltrA> Maus: did it run sucessfully?
[01:30] <bimberi> apokryphos: haha
[01:30] <ompaul> Plebeuz, to whom was that addressed, and why?
[01:30] <totally_noob> FOR GODS SAKE.
[01:30] <apokryphos> totally_noob: please don't shout
[01:30] <Maus> UltrA: Everything today has returned that error that I told you about.
[01:30] <totally_noob> apokryphos, ok sir
[01:30] <aven> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[01:30] <aven> =\
[01:30] <apokryphos> aven: if you don't know how to compile...
[01:31] <thechitowncubs> does the GUI for sharing folders even work?
[01:31] <aven> I do and I'm supposed to type "make"
[01:31] <apokryphos> then, well, kinda wonderin' what you're doing :P
[01:31] <thechitowncubs> because i can't seem to get it to work
[01:31] <Plebeuz> stop to talking baby
[01:31] <dwuerz> ok, i finally give up and never touch that ubuntu crap again :( - thx for those who were trying to help
[01:31] <apokryphos> aven: chances are you're meant to configure first
[01:31] <apokryphos> aven: is there an INSTALL file?
[01:31] <svref> breezy seems to have lots of fonts for languages I've never even heard of.  They take FOREVER to d/l and configure.  Is there some easy way to tell it: "dude, I don't live in Africa.  Latin-1 will be fine."
[01:31] <aven> apokryphos, nope
[01:31] <totally_noob> apokryphos, what is your instant messaging program?
[01:31] <thechitowncubs> What is the best way to share files between ubuntu computers?
[01:31] <apokryphos> totally_noob: KVirc
[01:32] <UltrA> Maus: the problem is that file permission
[01:32] <sambagirl> +
[01:32] <apokryphos> thechitowncubs: ssh?
[01:32] <totally_noob> apokryphos, and what is your best irc client?
[01:32] <apokryphos> thechitowncubs: or fish
[01:32] <apokryphos> totally_noob: ...KVirc
[01:32] <linked> Hi, sorry if it's documented elsewhere, but is there an easy way to specify which output device ubuntu should use? I can't get any system sounds, and I think it's defaulting to motherboard sound
[01:32] <totally_noob> apokryphos, you can use irc + msn together with KVirc???
[01:32] <apokryphos> totally_noob: IRC is technically IM :)
[01:32] <thechitowncubs> apokryphos: can i have amarok import from those protocols?
[01:32] <ompaul> !tell linked about audio
[01:32] <thechitowncubs> or can i browse them with nautilus?
[01:32] <Plebeuz> anyone know a nice font tu use with some matrix wallpaper?
[01:32] <apokryphos> thechitowncubs: import what? Files?
[01:32] <sexcopter8000m> linked, you may be able to disable onboard sound in the bios
[01:32] <thechitowncubs> music
[01:32] <Maus> UltrA: Which one?
[01:32] <ompaul> !tell linked about sound
[01:33] <oxez> just realisez I had linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-4-363. and my current kernel is 2.6.12-9-686, is it safe to remove the linux-restricted-modules package?
[01:33] <totally_noob> apokryphos, ok, do you have screenshots of it? cuz im bored with gaim
[01:33] <thechitowncubs> !sound
[01:33] <ubotu> somebody said sound was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[01:33] <apokryphos> thechitowncubs: hm, I'd sure assume so, though I haven't tried. Try it with fish (though, not sure if GNOME has something like that)
[01:33] <svref> thechitowncubs: I'm new to ubuntu, but in every linux I've used, creating nfs drives is as simple as editing /etc/exports on server and /etc/fstab on client
[01:33] <ompaul> linked, there is the documentation you need :)
[01:33] <UltrA> Maus: put the entire out put into the pastebin
[01:33] <EggMan> !tell eggman about aound
[01:33] <apokryphos> totally_noob: it's ugly
[01:33] <linked> ompaul, thanks!
[01:33] <vengeful> totally_noob, i like kopete
[01:33] <EggMan> !tell eggman about sound
[01:33] <totally_noob> apokryphos, i want to see screenshots for urs
[01:33] <thechitowncubs> svref: i've heard about NFS but I never knew how to work it
[01:33] <ompaul> linked, np
[01:33] <totally_noob> kopete and amsn and gaim sucks
[01:33] <linked> sexcopter8000m, That'd probably work, but I'd like to keep it disabled for when I boot my other OSs
[01:33] <dell500> how do i host a simple server for pictures?
[01:33] <UltrA> Maus: i've got to go now... Hope you get it soon
[01:33] <svref> "man exports"
[01:33] <apokryphos> totally_noob: Kopete is the best for conventional IM, but I like KVirc for IRC. You can find screenies with Google =)
[01:34] <Maus> UltrA: ok, thanks
[01:34] <sexcopter8000m> linked, any good reason? if you have another sound device which is better...
[01:34] <apokryphos> dell500: get a shared hosting account, a gallery script, and voila!
[01:34] <linked> sexcopter8000m, multiple sets of speakers used for different things- it's a workstation, media player and game machine wrapped into one, and the speakers are located as such
[01:34] <apokryphos> dell500: the most customizable (and my run-away-favourite) is WSN gallery script =)
[01:34] <totally_noob> apokryphos, i'm blocked from google
[01:34] <totally_noob> apokryphos, anyways thanks
[01:35] <apokryphos> err, how exactly?
[01:35] <sexcopter8000m> linked, blimey... forget that solution then
[01:35] <apokryphos> totally_noob: Nevermind though; there's hundreds of search engines out there
[01:35] <thechitowncubs> Is samba meant for ubuntu -> ubuntu transmissions?
[01:35] <sexcopter8000m> linked, sorry i'm not pro enough at fixing linux problems :)
[01:35] <linked> sexcopter8000m, it's fine =)
[01:36] <aven> ....
[01:36] <aven> the make command for ubuntu is 'make', right?
[01:36] <aven> it's not working.. *sigh*
[01:36] <thechitowncubs> aven
[01:36] <Maus> Anyone else having a problem with mozilla-firefox post-update?
[01:36] <jason056> i installed fedora core 4 and now i cant boot ubuntu!
[01:36] <thechitowncubs> aven: what are you trying to make
[01:36] <jason056> can someone help?
[01:36] <aven> the unrealircd
[01:36] <thechitowncubs> jason056: yes
[01:36] <totally_noob> apokryphos, ok sir.
[01:36] <aven> Now all you have to do is type 'make' and let it compile. When that's |
[01:36] <aven> | done, you will receive other instructions on what to do next.
[01:36] <totally_noob> apokryphos, have you ever tried irssi?
[01:36] <linked> ompaul, that documentation works dandy for getting another sound card installed, but i've got it showing up in the mixer already- i need to set it as KDE's default
[01:37] <aven> I type make and it doesn't work..
[01:37] <jason056> how do i fix it?
[01:37] <apokryphos> thechitowncubs: erm, ignore me... if you have amaroK if you of course don't need to be running KDE -- try using fish:// -- see if it works.
[01:37] <apokryphos> totally_noob: many-a-time, yes
[01:37] <aven> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[01:37] <thechitowncubs> jason056: you need to edit you /boot/grub/menu.lst and add ubuntu in again
[01:37] <totally_noob> apokryphos, and you still prefer KVirc :/
[01:37] <sorush20> my monitor keeps on flashing on an off.. I don know that I keep getting errors with adding the ati driver, when kernel is calculating the module dependencies.. but I have not been able to resolve the problem, can somone help please.?
[01:37] <jason056> is there a way to find which partition its in?
[01:37] <apokryphos> aven: the INSTALL file says nothing of configuring?
[01:37] <thechitowncubs> jason056: yes
[01:37] <jason056> how
[01:38] <apokryphos> aven: if you're *sure* you're meant to do a make *without* a  configure (rare), then you must be in the wrong directory in your terminal
[01:38] <thechitowncubs> jason056: gparted is the easiest way through a GUI, im trying to find an easy terminal command
[01:38] <jason056> thanks man
[01:38] <jason056> ugh...fedora core 4 doesn't have gparted
[01:38] <apokryphos> jason056: qtparted?
[01:39] <Trashcan> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/eclipse-rcp-common_3.1-10ubuntu1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.1.0/epl-v10.html', which is also in package eclipse-rcp
[01:39] <Trashcan> :(
[01:39] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell jason056 about grub
[01:39] <Trashcan> happens on th updates ubuntu says i need to install
[01:39] <aven> apokryphos, so you're saying it should be like a "make /Config" or something?
[01:39] <sorush20> extension update on firefox in ubuntu is not working is anyone else haveing the same problem here.?
[01:40] <apokryphos> Trashcan: do a force overwrite
[01:40] <Trashcan> can I set that from the updater?
[01:40] <Trashcan> or shall I apt-get it
[01:40] <apokryphos> aven: no... could you pastebin the INSTALL file?
[01:40] <svref> My machine has crashed during a synaptic upgrade of 431 packages, currently configuring 'ttf-oriya-fonts'.  If I reboot will the machine be melted?
[01:40] <jcarr> ubuntu has made me MAD!
[01:40] <oxez> Hm, when I try to launch GParted, the windows opens, and then closes with a seg fault... any ideas? I looked in the forums + google and found zero.
[01:40] <ompaul> linked, what kind of sound card is it?
[01:40] <aven> it didn't have any "INSTALL" file o.O
[01:41] <virgule> sound funky
[01:41] <thechitowncubs> jason056:
[01:41] <jcarr> after awhile, all programs, ALL PROGRAMS... they act up! They freeze up! They hang! I try to kill offensive processes, but behavior remains
[01:41] <linked> ompaul, i'm running an SB Extigy and the motherboard has nForce 2
[01:41] <jcarr> WHY!?
[01:41] <apokryphos> Trashcan: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/eclipse-rcp-common_3.1-10ubuntu1_all.deb
[01:41] <thechitowncubs> jason056: fdisk /dev/hda
[01:41] <chrisbudden14> has anyone been able to hibernate breezy and resume with ati binary installed
[01:41] <thechitowncubs> type that in a root terminal
[01:41] <Trashcan> rgr apokryphos
[01:41] <Trashcan> thanks
[01:41] <jcarr> WHY must I reboot all the time to fix this as if it was windows
[01:41] <thechitowncubs> then type p
[01:41] <MikeStyle> hey guys, i just upgraded to breezy and i restarted and my display manager isnt working, so i typed startx and it told me it couldnt find the command startx
[01:41] <apokryphos> aven: what does it have?
[01:41] <thechitowncubs> that should give you a list of your hard drive information
[01:41] <ompaul> linked, you have to turn off the mobo one in the bios for the other one to have a chance
[01:41] <linked> ompaul, I've got an external sound device plugged in to line in- KMix properly mutes and controlls the levels for it, so I know it's detected and working
[01:41] <svref> jcarr: maybe you have fritzy hardware
[01:42] <linked> ompaul, =/ ok, thanks... was hoping to avoid that, but oh well
[01:42] <jcarr> svref, unlikely... other distros havent done this
[01:42] <jcarr> I still dual boot to windows too
[01:42] <jcarr> no issues
[01:42] <jason056> bash: fdisk: command not found
[01:42] <jason056> ugh
[01:42] <jason056> i wish i wasnt such a noob
[01:42] <jcarr> (suprisingly enough)
[01:43] <bimberi> jason056: are you in a root shell?
[01:43] <jason056> i did the su - thing
[01:43] <jason056> and now
[01:43] <aven> apokryphos, http://unrealircd.com/?page=downloads
[01:43] <ompaul> jason056, Do NOT run fsck on a mounted system
[01:43] <apokryphos> jason056: shouldn't be using su...
[01:43] <aven> those are the files
[01:43] <apokryphos> jason056: sudo fdisk -l (you probably want(
[01:43] <jason056> [root@localhost ~] # fdisk /dev/hda
[01:43] <jason056> Unable to open /dev/hda
[01:44] <jmg> guys i am still having probs here
[01:44] <jason056> im using su because im on fedora
[01:44] <jcarr> Plebeuz, yez! BITCHX r0x3rz j00 b0x3rz!
[01:44] <thechitowncubs> jason056: you need to be a a root terminal
[01:44] <lingoist> hello...any chance o boot ubuntu in command line mode?
[01:44] <jason056> root terminal?
[01:44] <virgule> jmg: the laptop keep acting?
[01:44] <xtech> puto
[01:44] <Plebeuz> outo eh tu
[01:44] <Plebeuz> puto eh tu
[01:44] <bz0b> did they extend official release date?
[01:45] <bimberi> jason056: does "fdisk -l" show anything meaningful?
[01:45] <ompaul> bz0b, it is still the 13th Oct
[01:45] <bz0b> oh
[01:45] <bz0b> i thought it was due for the fourth
[01:46] <ompaul> bz0b, the 6th is preview day iirc
[01:46] <jason056> [root@localhost ~] # fdisk -1
[01:46] <jason056> fdisk: invalid option -- 1
[01:46] <jason056> Usage: fdisk [-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK     Change partition table
[01:46] <jason056>        fdisk -l [-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK  List partition table(s)
[01:46] <jason056>        fdisk -s PARTITION           Give partition size(s) in blocks
[01:46] <jason056>        fdisk -v                     Give fdisk version
[01:46] <jason056> Here DISK is something like /dev/hdb or /dev/sda
[01:46] <lingoist> no parameter for command line?
[01:46] <jason056> and PARTITION is something like /dev/hda7
[01:46] <jason056> -u: give Start and End in sector (instead of cylinder) units
[01:46] <jason056> -b 2048: (for certain MO disks) use 2048-byte sectors
[01:46] <jason056> [root@localhost ~] #  fdisk -l [-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK
[01:46] <ompaul> jason056, DONT PASTE IN HERE
[01:46] <_jason> jason056:  stop
[01:46] <jason056> Cannot open [-b
[01:46] <thechitowncubs> do not pate
[01:46] <Trashcan> ack!
[01:46] <jason056> Cannot open SSZ] 
[01:46] <bz0b> stop jason056
[01:46] <Trashcan> thanks
[01:46] <Trashcan> brilliant..
[01:46] <virgule> oh yeah
[01:46] <virgule> dramatic
[01:47] <bimberi> jason056: fdisk -l (as in lower case L).  Oh and did anyone tell you not to paste in here :P
[01:47] <thechitowncubs> bimberi: its fisk /dev/hda -l
[01:47] <thechitowncubs> fdisk*
[01:47] <bz0b> that noob
[01:47] <bz0b> hehe :-)
[01:47] <thechitowncubs> lol
[01:47] <GhostFreeman> what directory is the Trashcan located in?
[01:47] <apokryphos> xtech: keep the language clean in here please
[01:48] <_chavo> well, now there's twice as many lines of you guys  complaining asthre
[01:48] <_chavo> in hi paste
[01:48] <bimberi> thechitowncubs: both work for me - but that might be because my / is on /dev/hda
[01:48] <lingoist> I would be happy if anyone could give me a simple yes or no ;)
[01:48] <Trashcan> question
[01:48] <Trashcan> ?
[01:49] <lingoist> can i boot ubuntu in command line ?
[01:49] <lingoist> :)
[01:49] <ompaul> lingoist, yes
[01:49] <Trashcan> install bad drivers ;)
[01:49] <VoX> heh
[01:49] <Trashcan> worked fine for me!
[01:49] <lingoist> ompaul: great :)
[01:49] <umberleigh> hey. i've just setup firestarter, and i'm getting all these blocked outbound connections on random ports when running azureus. how can i let azureus connect to peers without having to open a ton of outbound ports?
[01:49] <lingoist> ompaul: how :)
[01:50] <ompaul> lingoist, question is have you installed a desktop? or is this a new machine?
[01:50] <lingoist> ompaul: new...cant get it run
[01:50] <delltony> hi all the tutorials and all i have found show how to dual boot with windows xp installed first then ubuntu? is there not a howto to do it ubuntu then windowsxp cause honestly i would hate to purge my configuration of linux just so i can dual boot winblows
[01:50] <ompaul> lingoist, okay start the install, on the first thing you come to type server
[01:50] <ompaul> lingoist, it will install cli version
[01:51] <lingoist> ompaul: thank you very much!
[01:51] <apokryphos> delltony: /msg ubotu grub
[01:51] <jcarr> godammit
[01:51] <ompaul> lingoist, sudo apt-get install (password is your own)  irssi and join us here then :)
[01:51] <jcarr> mark my words ubuntu, I WILL MAKE YOU PAY!
[01:51] <apokryphos> jcarr: please stop being annoying
[01:51] <delltony> jcarr whats wrong man didn't get laid this week? geeze
[01:51] <lingoist> ompaul: thx! see you in a few mins :)
[01:52] <EggMan> !grub
[01:52] <ubotu> it has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:52] <ompaul> jcarr, shutup or define a problem you can be helped with, as it is I consider you to be trolling
[01:52] <delltony> thanks hopefully that will help me
[01:53] <Kilter> is there anyone with experience setting an ubuntu samba server up as a pdc?  I don't need the ldap configuration (for now).
[01:53] <FatherTyme> Anyone try Ubuntu on an Alienware Area-51m yet?
[01:53] <Kilter> FatherTyme: yes, we did it in my old office
[01:53] <Kilter> worked like a charm
[01:54] <FatherTyme> sonuva.
[01:54] <FatherTyme> :(
[01:54] <Kilter> the grey ones with the wide screen and the colour changing alien eyes, cool looking units
[01:54] <umberleigh> hey. i've just setup firestarter, and i'm getting all these blocked outbound connections on random ports when running azureus. how can i let azureus connect to peers without having to open a ton of outbound ports?
[01:54] <dooglus> I'm having problems with movie subtitles.  mplayer won't show czech characters, and totem-xine will, but only in a small font.  can someone help with either problem please?
[01:55] <tim-yada-112> Howdy room!
[01:55] <kevogod> Is the Firefox 1.07 in Hoary actually 1.07 or is it simply a version increment for extensions?
[01:55] <Prower> Is breezy still considered to be an unstable install, or could one upgrade to it now before it's officially released? :>
[01:55] <Spudchat> hi everyone
[01:55] <vengeful> hiiiiiii
[01:56] <HrdwrBob> Prower: it's mostly stabilised
[01:56] <delltony> sorry to repeat but that information i got on ubotu is basically what i have seen the first link just tells me what grub is the second link tells me how to go windows first then ubuntu is there not a way to go ubuntu first then windows. or am i missing something
[01:56] <HrdwrBob> Prower: however you may have a few issues
[01:56] <ompaul> umberleigh, well you fire up a firewall and then say I don't want it running - hmm - maybe remove the rules - bottom line those rules are only there to protect services and ubuntu does not run services you do not install
[01:56] <Kilter> delltony: it means install windows first, then install ubuntu.  it will automagically work that way
[01:56] <tim-yada-112> I'm looking for some answers as I slide into the Linux waters...
[01:56] <Spudchat> does anyone know about video out on a nvidia geforce 6800 go? its sooo close to workin...when i boot up it says starting tvout server but i dont have any gui
[01:57] <hondje> Is your TV on, Spudchat?
[01:57] <apokryphos> delltony: you apparently didn't read the factoid
[01:57] <Prower> HrdwrBob: Hmm...I guess I'd better wait anyway, then
[01:57] <MasterSheep> Alllrighty... Hi guys. I just need a quick question answered as I try to install Ubuntu
[01:57] <bimberi> delltony: the second link tells you how to can reinstall grub if, for some reason, you have to install windows second
[01:57] <ompaul> dell500,  or leave that other operating system off the machine and get on with your life no more pain of that sort anyway :)
[01:57] <Spudchat> yeah
[01:57] <hondje> Then I dunno :)
[01:57] <Spudchat> ohhh i c i only get one or the other eheh
[01:57] <apokryphos> delltony: RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows (wiki article)
[01:57] <ernstp> So, uh, I removed the /var/cache/apt/archives/partial and now apt wont run
[01:57] <_chavo> delltony, if you've already installed linux and need to install Windows it's not hard to reinstall grub, with the install CD
[01:58] <Spudchat> is that the way it works?
[01:58] <ompaul> ernstp, does >sudo apt-get update< work ?
[01:58] <delltony> ok i'm guessin thats what that article explains let me go read some more cause i obvisouly missed something
[01:58] <Spudchat> either i get picture on my laptop or picture on the tv?
[01:58] <ernstp> ompaul, nope!
[01:58] <MasterSheep> Right... so out of sheer curiosity: Is anyone running Ubuntu (or trying to run Ubuntu) on a PPC?
[01:58] <Samhain> has anyone here successfully gotten any video capture programs working? If so, which ones?
[01:58] <ernstp> E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[01:58] <Seveas> ernstp, what did you do?
[01:58] <FhaeTon> someone please help me please
[01:58] <propagandhi> ernstp: mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[01:59] <ernstp> rm -r /var/cache/apt/archives/* :-)
[01:59] <delltony> yeah sorry this is what i wanted i appologize for the repeat
[01:59] <cafuego_> 'sudo apt-get clean'
[01:59] <apokryphos> ernstp: so re-create it
[01:59] <ernstp> propagandhi, ah, it's a a dir!
[01:59] <ernstp> tried to touch it :-)
[01:59] <propagandhi> yes indeed
[01:59] <umberleigh> ompaul: perhaps i'm not being very clear. i want to allow azureus the outbound connections it needs, but is there any way of restricting this to certain ports? atm azureus seems to be trying ports at random.
[01:59] <ompaul> ernstp, propagandhi just gave you the solution however it should read >>sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial<<
[01:59] <apokryphos> ernstp: it's a folder; you wouldn't touch it
[01:59] <Seveas> ernstp, that's stupid
[02:00] <cafuego_> umberleigh: Don't firewall outgoing connections, it's a PITA.
[02:00] <Seveas> ernstp, take cafuego_'s advice
[02:00] <Seveas> and don't run rm manually in there
[02:00] <cafuego_> Seveas: Are you sure about that?
[02:00] <ompaul> umberleigh, is that not the way azureus works? to be honest it is not something I run myself
[02:00] <ernstp> Seveas, NOW you tell me! :-P
[02:00] <Seveas> cafuego_, just in this case :)
[02:00] <propagandhi> ompaul: true i missed that
[02:00] <apokryphos> ernstp: who told you to rm -rf ?
[02:01] <apokryphos> it's not the recommended way, clearly =)
[02:01] <Plebeuz> f
[02:01] <cafuego_> ernstp: If you run the update manager, go to prefs, you can tell it to automagically remove old archives from the cache.
[02:01] <ernstp> apokryphos, told me? na, I just thought I should clear some files in there
[02:01] <apokryphos> MasterSheep: no reason to wait -- fire away
[02:01] <tim-yada-112> I have two windows 2000 servrer machines serving as Primary Domain controller, and backup domain controller. I would like to phase those out and replace them with some Linux flavor, Need advice on how to proceed
[02:01] <apokryphos> MasterSheep: we'd have an awful long queue if there was only one convo at a time :P
[02:01] <lingoist> ompaul: cant even start in server mode :(
[02:02] <ernstp> cafuego, yeah, but it's set and since that doesn't seem to work I did it manually
[02:02] <umberleigh> cafuego_: PITA?
[02:02] <cafuego_> tim-yada-112: Install & configure samba. Also see the 'samba-doc' package.
[02:02] <ompaul> ernstp, there is a command for that "sudo apt-get clean"
[02:02] <cafuego_> umberleigh: It creates a lot of work for no gain.
[02:02] <ompaul> lingoist, does it boot with a live CD?
[02:02] <propagandhi> ernstp: as cafuego_ said, if you're gonna do it in the command line use 'sudo apt-get clean' in future
[02:02] <cafuego_> !pita
[02:02] <ubotu> Not a clue, cafuego_
[02:02] <ompaul> lingoist, does it boot with an install CD?
[02:02] <Kilter> cafuego: that's the thing I'm having a problem with.
[02:02] <MasterSheep> Thanks apok
[02:02] <ernstp> ompaul, yeah, if I had stopped to think a second I'd thought of that also..
[02:02] <lingoist> ompaul: never tried
[02:02] <cafuego_> !pita is Pain In The Arse
[02:02] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[02:02] <MasterSheep> It's just a quick question
[02:02] <Seveas> tim-yada-112, www.google.com/search?q=samba+domain+controller+howto
[02:02] <Seveas> that'll get you started
[02:02] <ompaul> ernstp, :-)
[02:02] <apokryphos> cafuego_: how very English of you ;-)
[02:02] <ernstp> yeah, thanks for writing that 3 times now.
[02:03] <cafuego_> apokryphos: Yes, I speak english.
[02:03] <Seveas> !cafuego is <reply> see !pita
[02:03] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[02:03] <bimberi> rofl
[02:03] <cafuego_> !seveas is guilty
[02:03] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[02:03] <ernstp> seems like updatemanager and synaptic has different preferences for the archive cache
[02:03] <Determinist> Seveas, any idea if a windows mobile PDA can be synched with linux somehow mate?
[02:03] <MasterSheep> apokryphos: It's just a quick question about installing from the CD
[02:03] <Seveas> Determinist, not a single tiny little bit of clue
[02:04] <Determinist> Seveas, thanks lol
[02:04] <Spudchat> whats a good resolution for a widescreen?
[02:04] <cafuego_> Seveas: Note that like pita bread, I'm better with hommus.
[02:04] <apokryphos> MasterSheep: so shoot! You'll see if anyone knows :)
[02:04] <Spudchat> everyone ive tried is worse then the last :(
[02:04] <Determinist> Seveas, did you find what you needed in that PDF or do you need the second one mate?
[02:04] <bimberi> Determinist: look for packages with synce and multisync in them
[02:04] <Kilter> 1280X800 works well Spudchat
[02:04] <Determinist> bimberi, thanks
[02:04] <MasterSheep> When I boot up, the keyboard is completely unrecognized
[02:04] <cafuego_> Spudchat: The otimum resolution for said screen. Anything else will look fairly crap.
[02:04] <bimberi> Determinist: yw :)
[02:04] <Spudchat> thanks...
[02:04] <MasterSheep> I dunno if it has to do with the drivers or what
[02:04] <Seveas> Determinist, i've been bugsquashing for 6 hours - did not have time to read it
[02:05] <MasterSheep> But no matter what I do, I can't get the Install CD to recognize any input
[02:05] <Determinist> Seveas, k mate, lemme know :)
[02:05] <Determinist> pocket PC == windows mobile ?
[02:05] <MasterSheep> Any ideas anyone?
[02:05] <ScatterBrain> everytime I try to play an mp3 with xmms, it locks up.
[02:05] <drbrown> has anyone had any problems with hard drive sizes with nvidia sata controllers???
[02:06] <svref> How to restart X?
[02:06] <apokryphos> ScatterBrain: you probably have to change your audio output
[02:06] <Seveas> ScatterBrain: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[02:06] <MasterSheep> If it helps, I'm using the PPC version
[02:06] <Spudchat> argh they all look sooooo big
[02:06] <apokryphos> svref: logout and then ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:06] <Seveas> svref, <ctrl><alt><bksp>
[02:06] <nalioth> MasterSheep: what hardware?
[02:06] <darkmatter> svref:ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:06] <bz0b> hey nalioth
[02:06] <ompaul> good night good people
[02:07] <drbrown> I have a pair of seagate hard drives that show up as the full 80GB rather than 76 GB
[02:07] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Old ghetto iMac G3
[02:07] <drbrown> is this normal?????
[02:07] <ScatterBrain> apokryphos: Thanks, that did it.
[02:07] <MasterSheep> nalioth: I'm pretty sure it's the DV+ model
[02:07] <cafuego_> Apple never released a model called 'Ghetto'. Want to be specific?
[02:07] <kevogod> MasterSheep, If I have to use one of those again, I might kill someone.
[02:07] <ScatterBrain> Seveas: Thanks.
[02:08] <MasterSheep> Haha... sure. You missed the 'ghetto' right before the G3 suffix?
[02:08] <darkmatter> drbrown: is that ubuntu compared to windows?
[02:08] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[02:08] <MasterSheep> It was there, I swear :P
[02:09] <MasterSheep> DV+ Model, 400 MHz (If I remember correctly), 20 GB HD
[02:09] <ericz> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/03/183207
[02:10] <VoX> grrr why am i getting an md5 mismatch from my ubuntu server :(
[02:10] <drbrown> darkmatter: that's ubuntu & debian compared to fc4, which I would rather not use
[02:10] <VoX> fc4 is horrid
[02:10] <nalioth> MasterSheep: using the standard inputs?
[02:10] <VoX> i _have_ to use it at work
[02:11] <MasterSheep> nalioth: If by standard inputs you mean the standard apple USB keyboard, then yes
[02:11] <FhaeTon> how much space is needed for the swap drive?
[02:11] <Spudchat> twice the ram
[02:11] <darkmatter> differences in the way the distro's calculate free space? not 100% sure. i'll have a look-see
[02:11] <propagandhi> does anyone know how i can temporarily point my compiler to gcc-3.4.5
[02:12] <FhaeTon> 2 times the ram of the rig
[02:12] <FhaeTon> ?
[02:12] <nalioth> MasterSheep: have you checked your md5s on both iso and burnt cd?
[02:12] <Spudchat> i do believe thats like standard FhaeTon
[02:12] <FhaeTon> no I nooby don't have thoughts like that yet.
[02:12] <MasterSheep> nalioth: It wasn't a burnt CD or ISO; it was the pre packaged promo copy
[02:13] <nalioth> MasterSheep: some of those commercially produced discs did not come out of the oven correctly
[02:14] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Hah... Not all of them can. You think that's what's wrong?
[02:14] <liquidten2> Yup, i got a whole batch of 40 coasters.
[02:14] <nalioth> MasterSheep: something to check
[02:14] <MasterSheep> nalioth: How would I go about checking?
[02:15] <nalioth> MasterSheep: you are the first ppc user who has had this problem (to my notice) and it seems unusual
[02:15] <cius> so whats new in breezy?  I've read the "whats new" list of course, but anyone notice anything particularly different?
[02:15] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Goodie! I feel special... all warm and fuzzy inside
[02:15] <liquidten2> cuis: a lot
[02:16] <cius> liquidten2: I've not given it a go yet, I decided to use hoary when I did my install, figure I can just upgrade to breezy.  How is the new gnome?
[02:16] <MasterSheep> nalioth: How would I go about checking the md5 on my mac?
[02:17] <nalioth> MasterSheep: do you have a livecd or a functioning OS for your mac?
[02:18] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Oh, yes. The iMac is by no means my main computer. I use an iBook running OS X Tiger most of the time
[02:18] <jmg> ok i give up... will readress issue after breezy goes final :)
[02:18] <liquidten2> cius:  The new gnome is very nice ;)  Lets see... off the top of my head some changes i can think of are:  When you select text and move it you actually see the text instead of the usual pointer thing.  The new gtk 2.8 uses Cairo, and a lot of things look more crisp and better.  New nautilus view modes(tree mode) a clipboard daemon so that when you close an app you can keep what's in your clipboard.  New totem that has a decent side bar 
[02:18] <nalioth> MasterSheep: then find the download page for your image and get the md5sums
[02:18] <bz0b> totem is awsome, it plays all my mp3's
[02:18] <bz0b> without royalty fee
[02:19] <jmg> bz0b: haha
[02:19] <jrattner1> scared to death scared to look
[02:19] <zygis> cius, GNOME 2.12 [http://www.gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/C/]  among other things
[02:19] <liquidten2> bz0b:  the whole "mp3 patents" thing is blown way out of proportion.  From the xmms.org homepage.  "Hello Debian and Debian users, Want to rant about mp3patents? Sure, 2002 called and want their august news back.  We love everyone."
[02:20] <cius> liquidten2, yea, I'm really excited about the use of cairo and about the new linux desktop direction in general.  I can't wait to see it for myself.
[02:20] <Determinist> this is weird, cant make evolution fetch pop3 mail from gmail since it wont let me pick port number and secure connection as options. it just assumes you're going to use plain pop3
[02:20] <philalou121> Quelqu'un peut m'aider en franais
[02:20] <propagandhi> can someone quickly remind me of the command to reinstall and reconfigure a package
[02:20] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Hmmm... it looks like somethings not right. I think I got one of the 'duds'
[02:21] <philalou121> Quelqu'un peut m'aider en franais
[02:21] <philalou121> ?
[02:21] <MasterSheep> nalioth: I'm just gonna redownload and install from a burned disc
[02:21] <nalioth> !fr
[02:21] <ubotu> well, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:21] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Thanks for all the help :D
[02:21] <nalioth> MasterSheep: burn it slow, and not with Disk Utility
[02:21] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Of course not. Toast is fine, right?
[02:22] <nalioth> MasterSheep: yup. and slow
[02:22] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Will do! Thanks again
[02:22] <propagandhi> guys, whats the command to reinstall and reconfigure a package, mind is blank
[02:22] <ratte_> !help
[02:23] <ratte_> lo
[02:23] <nalioth> ratte_: you need to ask a real question. our mind reading skills suck
[02:23] <ratte_> where i find the mirros for apt
[02:23] <cius> Is Firefox still the default browser in breezy or is gnome's epiphany the default?
[02:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ratte_ about sources
[02:24] <cius> and thanks for that link zygis, I'd heard about most of it.  :-)
[02:24] <liquidten2> cius:  I believe firefox is the default, but i wouldn't know for sure since i use it anyway
[02:24] <VoX> cius: firefox
[02:24] <FhaeTon> If your using 2 HD in Raid0 ..How many swap partitions do I make?
[02:24] <liquidten2> cius: i take it you are having speed problems with firefox too?
[02:24] <VoX> firefox fails it
[02:25] <VoX> hence why i use opera :)
[02:25] <zygis> hehe, hence why you really should use lynx
[02:25] <zygis> :)
[02:25] <liquidten2> I mix it up between opera, firefox and epiphany.  But i also use FreeBSD and not ubuntu... <_<
[02:25] <liquidten2> *i do have ubuntu installed,  it's just not my primary desktop
[02:26] <cius> liquiten2, no, my firefox is fine as far as I can tell
[02:26] <jrattner1> does ubuntu support more hardware then debian?
[02:26] <kbrooks> jrattner1: yes
[02:26] <VoX> jrattner1: yeah
[02:26] <zygis> cius, firefox is the default, I prefer apt-get install epiphany, though
[02:27] <VoX> epiphany is worse than ff :P
[02:27] <liquidten2> cius:  a lot of people using ubuntu's firefox package are complaining about much slower speeds than say epiphany or even the official firefox build from mozilla.org
[02:27] <liquidten2> me included
[02:27] <bob_c_b> my FF issues cleared up after 1.07 pkg
[02:27] <cius> zygis, I might have to try epiphany, I've never used it, but they say its a derived from firefox, so I'm not sure what a difference it could make.
[02:27] <hajiki> my firefox is running great as well
[02:27] <VoX> i'm using an amd64, so i dont have many issues with speed, regardless of what i'm doing :)
[02:28] <bob_c_b> Epiphany is very fast but i haven't bothered tweaking media plug-ins yet
[02:28] <Vegar> epiphany is a lightweight firefox
[02:28] <bob_c_b> so i don't use it much
[02:28] <liquidten2> cius:  well it's smaller, and more integrated into gnome.  Other than that it's still based on gecko just like firefox(although epiphany 1.8(gnome 2.12) uses gecko 1.8 and firefox only uses 1.7 so that may make it a little(lot) faster
[02:28] <cius> liquidten2, that sounds wierd.  I can't tell any difference between the ubuntu version and the one I used on windows.  but then again, I've got high speed access and decent hardware, so maybe it wouldn't affect me as much?
[02:28] <zygis> bob_c_b, what do you mean? totem provides ones for ephy
[02:29] <bob_c_b> yea, i just haven't bothered to set anyting up as i usually run FF
[02:29] <bob_c_b> i only just installed epiphany when the FF pkg was busted for some people last week
[02:30] <bob_c_b> did the old apt-get -forcethebuggerinwithahammer and FF is back working
[02:30] <liquidten2> cius:  On my pentium3 withj 512mb rami do(did, haven't really tested recently) have problems where firefox would take about 4 seconds longer to startup than epiphany, and opening up more than 10 tabs would completely freeze the browser for about 6 or so seconds.  I didn't have this with the official firefox or even firefox on Dropline Gnome 2.12(slackware 10.2)
[02:30] <grndslm> epiphany has no extensions!!!!
[02:30] <grndslm> it sucks
[02:31] <kevogod> Then don't use it.
[02:31] <kevogod> There, simple, perfect.
[02:31] <cius> you know, something I found quite odd, I was trying out hoary on an old p3 700 I hve and I decided I wanted to try a text only browser.  I think I tried elinks or something like that and it actually seemed slower than firefox...
[02:31] <liquidten2> grndslm: the new epiphany in 2.12 does http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/extensions   not as many as firefox though by far
[02:31] <kevogod> grndslm, But it does.
[02:31] <bob_c_b> i like it grndslm, lean and clean
[02:31] <nalioth> grndslm: put the extensions for firefox into the same folder in the epiphany tree
[02:31] <kevogod> grndslm, epiphany-extensions
[02:31] <grndslm> epiphany extensions aren't firefox extensions
[02:32] <cius> liquidten2, wow, that is a big difference, certainly noticable
[02:32] <kevogod> Who say they were?
[02:32] <kevogod> *said
[02:32] <theblue> Hi all.
[02:33] <kevogod> If you don't like the browser, you can always download the boulder game.
[02:33] <hajiki> if you dont like Firefox you can always download free Opera Browser :(
[02:33] <theblue> Or Epiphany.
[02:33] <theblue> Or Mozilla.
[02:33] <AngryParsley> :) I use opera
[02:33] <liquidten2> kevogod:  that's what always bugged me.  If i install the game first and then the browser(this is in other distros) the browser detects the game and i get "epiphany-browser"  but if i install the game after epiphany it completely overwrites the binary
[02:34] <_jason> or run ie in wine
[02:34] <kevogod> Or even, yikes, Konqueror.
[02:34] <_jason> JUST KIDDING
[02:34] <bob_c_b> good one jason
[02:34] <ratte_> !nvidia
[02:34] <kevogod> Galeon
[02:34] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:34] <hajiki> !ati
[02:34] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[02:34] <kevogod> !ie
[02:34] <ubotu> kevogod: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:34] <theblue> !firefox
[02:34] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, theblue
[02:34] <cius> would any of you knowledgable folks happen to know of an irc client that I can have both a translucent background and borderless (like eterm is capable of)?
[02:34] <theblue> !ie
[02:35] <liquidten2> I usedd galeon for the longest time back in the 1.4 days of gnome.
[02:35] <theblue> Irssi, running in eterm.
[02:35] <nalioth> cius: irssi in an eterm
[02:35] <grndslm> i loved galeon 'til firefox came along and stole its thunder
[02:35] <cius> awesome
[02:35] <kennethlove> irssi > *
[02:35] <hajiki> yeah gaelon used to be nice
[02:35] <theblue> Ubuntu > *.
[02:35] <liquidten2> it was the only browser i coudl stand using.
[02:36] <cius> never heard of irssi, thanks alot
[02:36] <theblue> Asterisk > *.
[02:36] <WhiteRabbit> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/bounties/  what a wonderful bounty it is indeedy
[02:36] <theblue> cius: Go to a console, and type "irc", it'll start Irssi.
[02:36] <ratte_> !repositorys
[02:36] <ubotu> ratte_: Are you smoking crack?
[02:36] <theblue> Yes,
[02:36] <DapperDrake> !repositories
[02:36] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[02:36] <liquidten2> Mozilla was a freakin moster of a memory hog, netscape 4 had this strange "bug" where it wouldn't display any of my pages correctly.
[02:36] <bob_c_b> yea, i struggled through some ugly netscape clients before gaelon
[02:36] <cius> theblue, so I don't need to get it through apt?
[02:37] <theblue> cius: If you do, the name is irssi-text.
[02:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ratte_ about sources
[02:37] <cius> theblue, thanks
[02:37] <nalioth> ratte_: look to your private messages
[02:37] <theblue> No problem, cius.
[02:37] <theblue> !breezy
[02:37] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:37] <theblue> !hoary
[02:37] <ubotu> well, hoary is a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[02:37] <theblue> !warty
[02:37] <ubotu> theblue: Are you smoking crack?
[02:37] <nalioth> cius: irssi installed by default
[02:37] <theblue> !warthog
[02:37] <ubotu> theblue: What?
[02:37] <theblue> !dpkg
[02:37] <nalioth> !botabuse
[02:37] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[02:37] <theblue> Woops.
[02:38] <theblue> Ok, then.
[02:38] <nalioth> !ubotu
[02:38] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:38] <kennethlove> play with the bot? dirty.
[02:38] <theblue> ...
[02:38] <nalioth> theblue: read the webpage ^^^^ dont just !fish !for !triggers
[02:38] <ratte_> E: Konnte Paket linux-restricted-modules nicht finden <-- where i can find this package?
[02:38] <yoink> excuse me, i tried to install the latest fglrx driver but im getting these errors...http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2747
[02:39] <Seveas> ratte_, install linux-686 (intel cpu) or linux-k7 (amd)
[02:39] <liquidten2> apt-cache search it(i don't know the name of the correct package, but i'm pretty sure it needs the kernel version and architecture)
[02:39] <jcsteele> ok, still no luck.  is it possible to mount a bsd filesystem in ubuntu?
[02:40] <LetterRip> Hi, I added Blenders cvs to the luanchpad page here
[02:40] <LetterRip> https://launchpad.net/products/blender/+series/2.3
[02:40] <cius> nalioth, just found that out, but thanks anyway!  Now I gotta go through and make sure its set up right...
[02:40] <LetterRip> I believe we use different library versions than upstream for some things we link against
[02:40] <Seveas> jcsteele, man mount :)
[02:41] <liquidten2> jcsteele: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+FreeBSD-5.html  it's a little outdated(linux CAN mount ufs now natively)
[02:41] <bob_c_b> it's linux-restricted-modules-uname ratte
[02:41] <jcsteele> Seveas, yes, i have.  i am using the ubuntu disk manager, and as far as i can tell, ubuntu cant read the bsd disklabel
[02:41] <jcsteele> liquidten2, its an openbsd disk, so it uses ffs
[02:42] <liquidten2> jcsteele: that makes it more difficult...
[02:42] <LetterRip> is there a way to add our bugtracker to launchpad also?
[02:42] <liquidten2> i've only knowledge of freebsd
[02:42] <crimsun> LetterRip: these questions are more easily addressed in #launchpad
[02:42] <ratte_> !tell ratte nvidia
[02:42] <LetterRip> ah sorry thanks for the pointer
[02:42] <crimsun> LetterRip: np
[02:42] <ratte_> !tell ratte_ nvidia
[02:42] <ratte_> !tell ratte_ : nvidia
[02:42] <MikeStyle> uhm i upgraded to breezy and my startx isnt working. im chatting through terminal right now because i have no display manager
[02:42] <nootrope> Hiya, anyone know the equivalent of a left-click on the PowerPC versions of Linux? I'm running HH on a Apple Powerbook.
[02:43] <nalioth> ratte_: look at your private messages
[02:43] <nalioth> nootrope: f12
[02:43] <ratte_> it says user not exist
[02:43] <yoink> excuse me, i tried to install the latest fglrx driver but im getting these errors...http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2747
[02:43] <nootrope> nalioth: thanks
[02:43] <yoink> any ideas?
[02:43] <nootrope> nalioth: so point and f12?
[02:44] <ratte_> linux-restricted-modules <-- is this packet linux-k7 ?
[02:44] <ratte_> or need i other packs?
[02:44] <nalioth> nootrope: dont you have one mouse button already?
[02:44] <nootrope> yes
[02:44] <_aaron> y helo thar, fellow Ubuntu folks
[02:44] <oxez> yoink: I had this problem this morning, I reinstalled the kernel and then it worked (using the .run driver file on ati.com)
[02:44] <crimsun> yoink: did you try the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto for the ATI?
[02:44] <nalioth> then the right-click is f12
[02:44] <MikeStyle> i upgraded to breezy and restarted. my display manager didnt start
[02:44] <AngryParsley> so... how safe is it to use gparted to convert an NTFS partition to ext3?
[02:44] <bob_c_b> anyone at Ohio Linuxfest this past Saturday?
[02:44] <nootrope> so i point to the object i want to right-clcik on and hit f12?
[02:44] <ratte_> !nvidia
[02:44] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:44] <nalioth> AngryParsley: say goodbye to your data
[02:44] <nalioth> nootrope: yup
[02:45] <AngryParsley> nalioth: then why is that option not ghosted or something?
[02:45] <nalioth> ghosted?
[02:45] <liquidten2> _aaron: i'm not using ubuntu...  i just like the IRC channel <_<
[02:45] <nootrope> thanks. i just realiized i had typed left click, sorry. :)
[02:45] <AngryParsley> I mean disabled or something
[02:45] <mwright1> will breezy release  livecd have openoffice 2.0 on it?  what version of Thunderbird and Firefox will it have? for win32 that is
[02:45] <nalioth> parted is not a conversion program
[02:45] <MikeStyle> ...
[02:45] <nalioth> parted is a partitioning program. if you want to convert one to the other, dont expect your data to survive
[02:45] <yoink> crimsun, ill check it out
[02:45] <AngryParsley> there's a nice little menu when I right click on the partition and it says "convert to.."
[02:46] <crimsun> mwright1: it will have what's currently in it
[02:46] <AngryParsley> so it's not really converting, it's just deleting the partition and creating a new on of the same size
[02:46] <nalioth> AngryParsley: NTFS and linux dont play well together
[02:46] <yoink> oxez, i have a standard kernel, dont know how to reinstall it, im a noob
[02:46] <AngryParsley> nalioth: yeah, tell me about it
[02:46] <MikeStyle> can anyone help me
[02:46] <MikeStyle> ?
[02:46] <AngryParsley> I have this 200 gig drive full of crap, but it's formatted NTFS :(
[02:46] <oxez> yoink: open synaptic
[02:46] <liquidten2> nalioth: they play together better than Windows NT+reiserfs
[02:46] <oxez> yoink: I just selected 'Reinstall'
[02:46] <AngryParsley> liquidten2: yeah, at least I can read from it
[02:47] <nalioth> MikeStyle: at your prompt, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver
[02:47] <p0windah> moaning all
[02:47] <oxez> hi
[02:47] <nalioth> AngryParsley: linux can READ it fine
[02:47] <ratte_> what they mean with linux-restricted-modules?
[02:47] <MikeStyle> nalioth, i had someone tell me that exact same thing and it didnt work. it said something about xorg being broken
[02:47] <bob_c_b> Mike, open your xorg.conf and change the driver back to "vesa" and see if that lets X start
[02:47] <tritium> ratte_, binary-only drivers
[02:47] <AngryParsley> nalioth: yeah, I'm glad, but I don't have 200 gigs of free space on any other drive to back my stuff up
[02:47] <nalioth> MikeStyle: then wait til tomorrow when xorg gets new upgrades
[02:47] <yoink> crimsun, im having a bit of trouble connecting to the wiki...
[02:48] <nalioth> bob_c_b: pay attention
[02:48] <tritium> ratte_, such as nvidia, in your case
[02:48] <_aaron> Forbidden modules. It's like Area 51; made of alien technology. =)
[02:48] <MikeStyle> bob_c_b, im chatting through terminal, NO DISPLAY MANAGER, i cant edit it without seeing it
[02:48] <yoink> oxez, k, ill try that after i read this wiki article
[02:48] <crimsun> yoink: routing hiccup on your end then
[02:48] <MikeStyle> nalioth, i need it working today...
[02:48] <RockyBurt> hm, i recently did an update in breezy and now my wireless device doesn't detect any AP's
[02:48] <nalioth> MikeStyle: ctrl-alt-f3 gets you a new terminal (you have 8 of em)
[02:48] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: you don't need X to edit files
[02:48] <yoink> crimsun, wouldnt be a first...im at college,so quite a monster of a network
[02:48] <ratte_> where i get the nvidia driver?
[02:48] <crimsun> ratte_: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:48] <JairunCaloth> when I try to mount my windows drive it says /dev/hdb already mounted or /mdt/hdb busy
[02:49] <RockyBurt> anyone know of any changes to the ubuntu breezy stuff that might have broken wireless recently?
[02:49] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, i would be no good at it. not good with command line at all
[02:49] <ratte_> crimsun, ther stand the package : linux-restricted-modules
[02:49] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: oh i see what you're saying now.  Press control+f2 and then type in nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:49] <ratte_> i don t know what they mean
[02:49] <p0windah> JairunCaloth: have a look in the /media/ directory
[02:49] <p0windah> JairunCaloth: its probably already mounted
[02:49] <crimsun> MikeStyle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:49] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: as root that is, then when youa re finished editing it press control+x
[02:49] <crimsun> MikeStyle: choose the vesa driver
[02:49] <AngryParsley> so is there any way to convert my NTFS partition to ext3 or something with another utility?
[02:49] <tritium> ratte_, I told you that they are binary-only drivers, such as nvidia
[02:49] <MikeStyle> crimsun i already said that didnt work
[02:49] <theblue> !brainfuck
[02:49] <ubotu> theblue: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:50] <delltony> anyone here used qtparted before if so how come you can't resize your active partition? i click on /dev/hda1 and resize it it and nada
[02:50] <theblue> Damn.
[02:50] <crimsun> MikeStyle: not even to choose the vesa driver?
[02:50] <tritium> theblue, please dont do that
[02:50] <tritium> don't even
[02:50] <JairunCaloth> p0windah: it's not there, I can't find it
[02:50] <MikeStyle> nope
[02:50] <theblue> tritium: Sorry, I was looking for the language.
[02:50] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, i pressed ctrl f2 and nothing
[02:50] <crimsun> MikeStyle: dpkg -l xserver-xorg|grep ^ii
[02:50] <tritium> ok, just try to keep it work-safe ;)
[02:50] <p0windah> off to get some breakfast, later
[02:50] <liquidten2> ctrl+alt+f2 sorry
[02:50] <nalioth> theblue: you were given the webpage of ubotus brains. please use it and !quit !fishing
[02:50] <theblue> tritium: K.
[02:50] <tritium> :)
[02:50] <theblue> nalioth: Ok, then.
[02:51] <MikeStyle> crimsum, my xserver is broken, thats the problem
[02:51] <crimsun> MikeStyle: what's the output from the command I gave you?
[02:51] <MikeStyle> hold on
[02:51] <MikeStyle> wut command do i press for new terminal again? and then how do i close it once im done?
[02:51] <jdunck> i'm considering installing tightvnc server on hoary. i don't see a synaptic package for it.  any pointers or advice?  ok to just build from source?  what happens when ubuntu later includes the package?
[02:51] <yoink> crimsun, the wiki is definately up atm?
[02:51] <nalioth> MikeStyle: no need to close anything. you can alternate between them
[02:52] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  Control+Alt+F2  then login.  When you are done type exit and then Control Alt F1 to get back
[02:52] <MikeStyle> nalioth, how alternate?
[02:52] <nalioth> MikeStyle: ctrl-alt-f1 through f8
[02:52] <MikeStyle> ok
[02:52] <crimsun> jdunck: does the installed Vino not suffice?
[02:52] <bob_c_b> gotta go, be ack later
[02:52] <Toma-> can kde do animated backgounds?
[02:52] <paca> Hi.
[02:52] <crimsun> yoink: absolutely
[02:52] <MikeStyle> ok crimsum, what command
[02:52] <Toma-> or gnome for that matter
[02:52] <WhiteRabbit> Toma-, if you have tons of ram sure
[02:52] <WhiteRabbit> Toma-, You mean like wintel can
[02:52] <crimsun> MikeStyle: dpkg -l xserver-xorg|grep ^ii
[02:53] <WhiteRabbit> Like the moving lava lake wallpaper deal
[02:53] <Toma-> WhiteRabbit: i tried with an animated gif but only used the first fame :(
[02:53] <Toma-> WhiteRabbit: no, like e17 ;)
[02:53] <jdunck> crimsun, checking
[02:53] <WhiteRabbit> Toma-, the easy way is to interlace a screensaver as the wallpaper! much easyer that way ;)~
[02:53] <Toma-> hmm
[02:54] <jamie_1> anyone know where to write programs?
[02:54] <MikeStyle> crimsum, i did your command and nothing happened
[02:54] <HrdwrBob> jamie_1: erm
[02:54] <liquidten2> jamie_1: what do you mean?
[02:54] <AngryParsley> whoa, 167 updates available
[02:54] <crimsun> MikeStyle: _nothing_?
[02:54] <MikeStyle> nothing at all
[02:54] <nalioth> MikeStyle: you said you've reconfigured for VESA?
[02:54] <jamie_1> as in......... to write programs like games in liquidten2
[02:54] <AngryParsley> most of them are x-windows drivers for video cards that are not mine
[02:54] <jamie_1> and HrdwrBob
[02:55] <crimsun> MikeStyle: I don't think you typed it properly
[02:55] <crimsun> MikeStyle: it should at least give you a line containing an installed package version
[02:55] <MikeStyle> nalioth, i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it said something about x being broken...
[02:55] <crimsun> MikeStyle: if it's not installed, dpkg will give you an error
[02:55] <MikeStyle> crimsum i assure u i typed it right
[02:55] <crimsun> MikeStyle: there are only two possibilities for output, and I just gave them to you
[02:56] <MikeStyle> hold on
[02:56] <MikeStyle> -l or i
[02:56] <dell500> how do i find out what port apache uses for a gallery?
[02:56] <crimsun> MikeStyle: an el
[02:56] <MikeStyle> ok
[02:56] <MikeStyle> is there a space between grep and ^ii
[02:57] <crimsun> MikeStyle: yes
[02:57] <MikeStyle> ok
[02:57] <MikeStyle> same exact output, nothing
[02:58] <MikeStyle> ...
[02:58] <MikeStyle> ?
[02:58] <bimberi> MikeStyle: leave the "| grep ^ii" off, do you get anything then?
[02:58] <MikeStyle> hold on bimberi
[02:58] <haft> hello ppl, i need some help
[02:58] <MikeStyle> bimberi, i did get output
[02:58] <crimsun> you should most definitely not get nothing
[02:59] <nalioth> haft: we need a question
[02:59] <haft> i installed the prew version
[02:59] <bimberi> MikeStyle: what's the last line?
[02:59] <MikeStyle> hold on
[02:59] <liquidten2> nalioth:  I've become quite apt at reading peoples minds actually <_<
[02:59] <haft> but the xorg is not running
[02:59] <jdunck> crimsun, i'm having trouble finding documentation on vino.  link?
[02:59] <yosh> whats up, im trying to get my ubuntu install to boot, its on /dev/hdb1 but passing root=/dev/hdb1 fails, im wondering if ubuntu uses some odd device names or something?
[02:59] <haft> and i need a root pass to change the conf file
[02:59] <AngryParsley> oh, can you delete files on an NTFS partition from linux?
[02:59] <yosh> grub can access the kernel on hd0,1 tho
[03:00] <crimsun> jdunck: System> Preferences> Remote Desktop
[03:00] <cius> exit
[03:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell haft about root
[03:00] <jdunck> crimsun, thanks
[03:00] <AngryParsley> I mean, without massive data corruption
[03:00] <MikeStyle> bimberi... iU xserver xorg    6.8.2-74    the x.org xserver (dummy package)
[03:00] <liquidten2> haft: Root is disabled.  login as user, type "sudo whateveryouwantedtotype" then type in YOUR password for your user account.
[03:00] <haft> thx
[03:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell liquidten2 about root
[03:01] <yosh> anyone know what /dev/hdb1 would be to ubuntu?
[03:01] <nalioth> yosh: just what you wrote
[03:01] <yosh> doesnt work..
[03:01] <haft> is there an xorg configurator in the prew release?
[03:01] <yosh> i get a kernel panic
[03:01] <nalioth> yosh: then you dont have one
[03:01] <Trashcan> !root
[03:01] <ubotu> root is, like, disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:01] <yosh> i know its /dev/hdb1 cos grub loads the kernel from hd1,0
[03:01] <crimsun> MikeStyle: that means it's not configured
[03:01] <yosh> hd1,0 is /dev/hdb1 am i right
[03:01] <MikeStyle> crimsum, how to configure?
[03:02] <crimsun> MikeStyle: what error message does it give you when you try to ''sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg''?
[03:02] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: There are two ways.  If the dpkg-reconfigure thing doesn't work for you, then type in xorgconfig and answer it's questions(you have to know a little about your monitor)
[03:02] <MikeStyle> crimsum, when i do that the first thing i get is a perl warning
[03:02] <tritium> hondje, I completely second that wish
[03:02] <delltony> dang i messed up and made /dev/hda unactive in qtparted and i can't figure out how to make it active again any help would be great
[03:03] <MikeStyle> im using a laptop liquidten2
[03:03] <Brize> ake it active again any help would be great
[03:03] <yosh> nalioth: why can i pull the kernel in /boot with hd1,0 with grub but then root=/dev/hdb1 fails?
[03:03] <crimsun> MikeStyle: ok the Perl warning about LOCALE/LC_ALL is not critical
[03:03] <mdz> haft: it should generate a working configuration by default; if it didn't, it's probably a bug
[03:03] <crimsun> MikeStyle: but where and when does it fail after that?
[03:03] <mdz> haft: but you should try the latest stuff before reporting one
[03:03] <hondje> tritium: I tried making one, but qt is much easier for a guy like me than gtk
[03:03] <MikeStyle> crimsum, what do you mean where and when
[03:03] <nalioth> yosh: i have no idea. i have powerpcs
[03:03] <crimsun> MikeStyle: I mean what happens after those warnings?
[03:04] <tritium> hondje, file a wishlist bug :)
[03:04] <hondje> ooh, there's a good idea :)
[03:04] <hondje> the edubuntu guys would probably like that too
[03:04] <hondje> 0.
[03:04] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  All you need to know is the refresh rates and max resolutions  :  When you type dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server you should get an ncurses based interface where it asks you questions and makes an /etc/X11/xorg.conf based on your answers
[03:04] <hondje> You can get those rates by sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange, fwiw
[03:04] <MikeStyle> lc-all=unset.....falling back to standard local of C....
[03:05] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, no such command found
[03:05] <yosh> anyone know why im getting a kernel panic trying to boot ubuntu with root=/dev/hdb1? grub pulls the kernel from /boot on hd1,0 so I know that the hardware is all there
[03:05] <dell500> does anyone know what port gallery (for apache) runs on?
[03:05] <crimsun> MikeStyle: right, those are the warnings. What happens after all those warnings?
[03:05] <MikeStyle> 'xserver-xorg is broken or not fully configured'
[03:06] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  that is the problem.
[03:06] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, what should i do?the xorgconfig command wasnt found
[03:07] <crimsun> MikeStyle: did you dist-upgrade from warty/hoary, or did you install clean?
[03:07] <liquidten2> unfortunately i haven't used Debian in about 2 years and my knowledge of apt is fading.  Someone tell him the command that fixes broken depedencies(i think "aptitude" has a broken filter)
[03:07] <MikeStyle> dist-upgrade
[03:07] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  yoru xorg isn't installed completely
[03:07] <hajiki> apt-get install x-window-system-core
[03:07] <sanpera> liquidten2, apt-get install -f
[03:07] <crimsun> MikeStyle: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:08] <jdunck> crimsun, vino works great, thanks for pointer
[03:08] <AngryParsley> hey, is there any way to delete a file on an NTFS partition from linux?
[03:08] <sn0n> i have a SILLY question... who edits Gnome Help ? cuz there are alot of ermm..small versioning errors.. like : Yelp > Desktop > User Guide and Sys Admin Guide being gnome 2.6
[03:08] <sn0n> kinda.. needs updating maybe
[03:09] <crimsun> jdunck: np
[03:09] <MikeStyle> crimsum, that might take a while
[03:09] <jdunck> AngryParsley, i'm pretty sure NTFS under linux is read-only
[03:09] <liquidten2> AngryParsley: Not even a little bit of a chance of that working
[03:09] <MikeStyle> 98 mb more to dl
[03:09] <crimsun> MikeStyle: that's what I thought.
[03:09] <jdunck> i think system rescue CD can do it, tho
[03:09] <crimsun> it didn't finish downloading all the packages needed to dist-upgrade
[03:09] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  that will fix your problem.
[03:09] <MikeStyle> okay
[03:09] <MikeStyle> when its done then what?
[03:09] <AngryParsley> jdunck: there is experimental writing, but it corrupts data like crazy
[03:09] <AngryParsley> and you can only do things like change files that already exist
[03:09] <crimsun> MikeStyle: it will take care of itself during the dist-upgrade. You don't have to do a thing.
[03:09] <liquidten2> It should automatically do that "dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server" we've been talking about and ask you some questions
[03:10] <jdunck> AngryParsley, ok, that's all i know ;-)
[03:10] <MikeStyle> crimsum, so once its done just restart and it should be fixed?
[03:10] <yosh> anyone know why im getting a kernel panic trying to boot ubuntu with root=/dev/hdb1? grub pulls the kernel from /boot on hd1,0 so I know that the hardware is all there
[03:10] <AngryParsley> liquidten2: but ntfsresize can move data around if it's fragmented, what's so different about deleting?
[03:10] <crimsun> MikeStyle: yes
[03:10] <delire> AngryParsley: you can attempt using the captive-nfts driver, but it is not reccommended.
[03:10] <MikeStyle> crimsum, thanks alot man (girl?)
[03:10] <AngryParsley> delire: heh, that sounds risky
[03:10] <sn0n> so what are some good rss readers ?
[03:10] <sn0n> im sick of liferea
[03:11] <liquidten2> AngryParsley:  That's actually the only stable way to do it.
[03:11] <hajiki> root            (hd0,1)
[03:11] <delire> sn0n: i like snownews but it's terminal only.
[03:11] <liquidten2> sn0n: I'd recommend liferea <_<
[03:11] <nalioth> sn0n: heh that is what i was gonna suggest. try rawdog or yarssr
[03:11] <Rylie> ftopic
[03:11] <sn0n> ohh yeh.. snownews.. forgot bout that one.. :-D
[03:11] <MikeStyle> thanks guys
[03:12] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  Good luck!
[03:12] <AngryParsley> liquidten2: so what are my chances of losing tons of data? because most of the stuff on there are DVD backups
[03:12] <MikeStyle> good luck? does that mean there is a chance things wont work?
[03:12] <AngryParsley> and I don't want to take the time to rerip them
[03:12] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: I knew you were going to ask that ;)  it should work fine
[03:12] <crimsun> MikeStyle: there's always a chance you might explode.
[03:13] <MikeStyle> crimsum, well spontaneous combustion would kinda suck
[03:13] <delire> AngryParsley: if the contents of the NTFS partition are backed up, why not switch to the fat32 fs and then reload winblows.
[03:13] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, thanks for the reassurance
[03:13] <crimsun> hence the buena suerte
[03:13] <MikeStyle> how old is everyone here? i bet im the youngest
[03:13] <liquidten2> AngryParsley: Captive-ntfs will do it.  Or if you have access to partition magic i'd convert that thing back to fat32
[03:13] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: 16
[03:13] <AngryParsley> delire: because windows won't let me have a fat32 partition bigger than 32 gigs
[03:13] <AngryParsley> and it's a 200 gig drive
[03:13] <theblue> MikeStyle: 12
[03:13] <MikeStyle> theblue 0_o
[03:13] <MikeStyle> never mind
[03:13] <delire> AngryParsley: i see
[03:14] <theblue> MikeStyle: How old are you?
[03:14] <MikeStyle> 16
[03:14] <AngryParsley> the captive ntfs driver looks like the best bet
[03:14] <AngryParsley> thanks
[03:14] <MikeStyle> O_o
[03:14] <liquidten2> <_<
[03:14] <AngryParsley> T_T
[03:14] <crimsun> errors or warnings?
[03:14] <MikeStyle> uhm
[03:14] <crimsun> the warnings are expected
[03:14] <hajiki> http://bustymousepads.com/
[03:14] <tyndz> mirros list  URL?
[03:14] <MikeStyle> crimsum, warnings
[03:14] <nalioth> AngryParsley: be careful with captive
[03:15] <crimsun> if they're errors, your dist-upgrade will fail
[03:15] <tritium> hajiki, that doesn't sound work-safe
[03:15] <MikeStyle> wow i kinda like irc chatting in terminal, its cool
[03:15] <crimsun> screen+irssi
[03:15] <MikeStyle> crimsum, so it should still work?
[03:15] <hajiki> tritium, thats what my boss said
[03:15] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: it makes you feel more "1337" doesn't it
[03:15] <crimsun> MikeStyle: absolutely
[03:15] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, oh yea
[03:15] <nalioth> MikeStyle: screen will free you (gnu screen)
[03:15] <RockyBurt> anyone happen to know if any recent updates affected wlan in ubuntu breezy lately? my wlan just stopped working :(
[03:15] <MikeStyle> 1 f33l 1337
[03:15] <crimsun> RockyBurt: yes, what were you using for wlan?
[03:16] <RockyBurt> crimsun: ndiswrapper
[03:16] <hajiki> RockyBurt, I've had to reboot at times because of updates to hotplug and stuff
[03:16] <tyndz> mirrors list  URL?  I can't locate it in ubuntu.com
[03:16] <MikeStyle> thanks for the help guys
[03:16] <crimsun> RockyBurt: I didn't touch ndiswrapper.
[03:16] <AngryParsley> oh cool, now that I installed ntfsprogs gparted lets me resize ntfs partitions
[03:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tyndz about sources
[03:16] <AngryParsley> less messing with partition tables for me
[03:16] <crimsun> RockyBurt: Are you using wpasupplicant?
[03:16] <RockyBurt> crimsun: yes... which also appears to be broken
[03:17] <crimsun> RockyBurt: how did it break?
[03:17] <MikeStyle> i love linux, its such a wonderful challenge!
[03:17] <crimsun> RockyBurt: paste your conffile onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:17] <delire> MikeStyle: and with that attitude you will go far with it..
[03:17] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  Once you get used to it it gets boring.  This is my 5th year on unix...  Now using windows is the challenge
[03:17] <MikeStyle> delire, :)
[03:17] <RockyBurt> crimsun: http://paste.plone.org/279
[03:18] <delire> liquidten2: 8 years here and i'm still learning alot.
[03:18] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, there is never a dull moment for me! i always have something to upgrade..or fix...my dad thinks im crazy but i love it
[03:18] <crimsun> RockyBurt: no, I need your conffile
[03:18] <Toma-> i wish kde had more eyecandy :(
[03:18] <crimsun> RockyBurt: I tested pretty thoroughly before I uploaded 0.4.5
[03:18] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  Same thing with me.  I always find something to configure or a different distro to install
[03:18] <AngryParsley> weird, gparted did nothing
[03:19] <delire> Toma-: http://kde-look.org/
[03:19] <Toma-> delire: i know.
[03:19] <AngryParsley> I told it to resize, clicked apply, and it just left everything the same
[03:19] <Toma-> ive installed about 1/2 the things on that site
[03:19] <crimsun> AngryParsley: did you try to resize the _beginning_ of the partition?
[03:19] <delire> Toma-: it has the most eyecandy of any desktop environment ;)
[03:19] <RockyBurt> crimsun: http://paste.plone.org/280
[03:19] <Toma-> e17 has a bit more
[03:19] <AngryParsley> crimsun: what do you mean?
[03:19] <crimsun> AngryParsley: parted-based tools can't resize if you move the beginning of a partition
[03:19] <Toma-> well, moe fancy eyecandy
[03:20] <AngryParsley> I couldn't move the partition, only resize it
[03:20] <Toma-> more*
[03:20] <tritium> AngryParsley, did you grow up in GrumpyGarden?
[03:20] <liquidten2> AngryParsley:  this may seem like a weird thing to recommend, but download Disk 1 of the Mandriva Installer.
[03:20] <holycow> hey guys
[03:20] <AngryParsley> liquidten2: O_o
[03:20] <crimsun> RockyBurt: just as I suspected
[03:20] <holycow> when is breeze schedule for release?
[03:20] <crimsun> RockyBurt: are you actually using smart card authentication?
[03:20] <delire> Toma-: sure, you are probably right with recent development to e17. that said, with Karamba folk are doing wild things.
[03:20] <liquidten2> AngryParsley:  It has the easiest partitioning tool ever, and it supports NTFS quite well.  I take it with me when i work on other people's pcs
[03:20] <kbrooks> holycow: 10 days
[03:20] <poofyhair> is there any wiki people here?
[03:20] <RockyBurt> crimsun: no ;)
[03:20] <holycow> aww crud
[03:20] <holycow> i fly out then
[03:20] <AngryParsley> tritium: actually I got this nick from a random nick generator
[03:20] <Toma-> delire: yeh. pity theyre all noobs writing the plgins
[03:20] <crimsun> RockyBurt: duh. Then comment out lines 7-9
[03:21] <crimsun> I'll post a note to -users tonight.
[03:21] <crimsun> it would be better if I just did something in .postinst to sed out those three lines
[03:22] <delire> Toma-: many are, some are experienced however. i only use KDE at work, so cannot reccommend the best.
[03:22] <RockyBurt> crimsun: also, right now "iwlist wlan0 scanning" no longer returns any AP's even though i have two running here in my office... and i have another laptop connected to one of them
[03:22] <MikeStyle> ok guys restarting comp...wish me luck
[03:22] <Toma-> just gonna have to wait for kde4
[03:22] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  i believe i already did.  ;)
[03:23] <crimsun> RockyBurt: I'm not entirely convinced that's a wpasupplicant issue at all, since I get that without using wpasupplicant
[03:23] <poofyhair> so no wiki people?
[03:23] <RockyBurt> crimsun: right, same as me typically... i don't necessarily think its a wpa_supplicant issue either
[03:23] <tritium> poofyhair, what's the issue?
[03:23] <crimsun> RockyBurt: also, 'scan' will save you a few keystrokes
[03:23] <tyndz> any IPV6 mirrors?
[03:24] <fortran01> any idea how auto-save in Gmail works?
[03:25] <delire> RockyBurt: what happens if you let the card auto-associate with 'iwconfig wlan0 ap any'?
[03:25] <sn0n> how do i turn spatial back on ? i cant find it
[03:25] <crimsun> back in a bit, need to charge.
[03:25] <RockyBurt> delire: nothing (one of my ap's has no security setup, the second ap has wpa encryption setup)
[03:25] <poofyhair> tritium: Mark's wikipage in on slashdot
[03:26] <Toma-> fortran01: sounds like it saves your email as u type it
[03:26] <delire> RockyBurt: also check the card is on the correct 'mode' with iwconfig. should be 'Managed'
[03:26] <poofyhair> tritium: and I could edit it, I'm scared of what trolls can do
[03:26] <RockyBurt> delire: it is
[03:26] <fortran01> Toma-: how do I test this new feature? =)
[03:26] <delire> RockyBurt: hmm try 'iwconfig wlan0 mode Auto'
[03:26] <Toma-> ummm
[03:27] <mwright1> Can someone help me with a iptables rule,
[03:27] <Toma-> write something then run killall firefox-bin
[03:27] <RockyBurt> delire: nothing. ... but if i can't see any ap's with iwlist wlan scan ... i won't be able to connect to any, will i?
[03:28] <delire> RockyBurt: no, i wanted to ensure that mode wasn't getting in the way in the first instance.
[03:28] <RockyBurt> ah, i see
[03:28] <liquidten2> sn0n: you mean in nautilus?  if so, open it up, click on Edit, Preferences, Behaviour, and uncheck always open in browser windows.
[03:28] <sn0n> i want to turn it on
[03:28] <sn0n> oo.. i get you.. thnx
[03:28] <delire> RockyBurt: what is the Tx-Power for that card? see iwconfig
[03:28] <mwright1> I want to write a rule to allow connections to port 22 on 192.168.100.253 via eth0
[03:28] <sn0n> wait.. that didnt fix it
[03:28] <sn0n> lol
[03:29] <RockyBurt> delire: 25 dBm
[03:29] <delire> mwright1: sounds like you want 'shorewall'. it is for precisely this purpose and is excellent.
[03:29] <tritium> poofyhair, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
[03:29] <Pickle_Weasel> um, i got quite accustomed to right clicking on my desktop to open a terminal, but now that i updated to breezy that has been replaced with "create folder" so i have a bunch of folders everywhere... >.>
[03:29] <Pickle_Weasel> is there any way i could get it back into that menu?
[03:29] <delire> RockyBurt: that's fine. how about restarting your firmware? 'sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart'
[03:29] <sn0n> ah ha.. there we go
[03:30] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: there is a plugin, let me see if i can find the name
[03:30] <mwright1> delire: no I'm trying to help a guy get from an existing firewall he has ssh'd into
[03:30] <Pickle_Weasel> thank you nalioth ^.^
[03:30] <mwright1> to his LTSP that is internal
[03:30] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: "nautilus-open-terminal-0.4"
[03:30] <RockyBurt> delire: ok, just restarted that... still not seeing anything with iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:30] <fortran01> Toma-: doesnt work, is there a minimum time?
[03:30] <delire> mwright1: well use that firewall's interface/method to write a rule.
[03:31] <mwright1> He is getting no route to host when he tries ssh 192.168.100.103, he is on 192.168.100.254
[03:32] <delire> mwright1: use a non-standard port. '/usr/sbin/sshd -p 2111' on the host. connect with 'ssh -p 2111 yourfriend@hisAddr'
[03:33] <delire> mwright1: note you might want to stop sshd first..
[03:33] <delire> RockyBurt: what nic?
[03:34] <RockyBurt> delire: this is a broadcom integrated thing on my dell latitude d800
[03:34] <AngryParsley> ERROR: Your disk has bad sectors (manufacturing faults or dying disk).
[03:34] <AngryParsley> that is great
[03:35] <AngryParsley> oh well, I'll back up everything important and try ntfsresize anyway
[03:35] <nalioth> AngryParsley: install "smartmontools"
[03:35] <sker0> ol
[03:35] <AngryParsley> nalioth: ntfsresize reported that error
[03:35] <AngryParsley> my linux drive is fine
[03:35] <sker0> Algum aqui fala portugus
[03:35] <nalioth> sker0: #ubuntu-pt
[03:36] <Gobbla> isnt .br brittain?
[03:36] <nalioth> Gobbla: .uk
[03:36] <zcat[1] > brazil? .uk is the UK..
[03:36] <Gobbla> ah
[03:36] <nalioth> nope, sorry, .gb
[03:37] <AngryParsley> also, I know this drive is dying, but it only has movies on it
[03:37] <delire> RockyBurt: i have no experience with that wifi card.. someone else here will however. have you rebooted since your dist-upgrade?
[03:37] <AngryParsley> a few bad sectors never killed anyone
[03:37] <RockyBurt> delire: yes, but it wasn't a dist-upgrade... was just a regular apt-get upgrade
[03:37] <theblue> Well, yes it did.
[03:37] <delire> Gobbla: *.br == brazil.
[03:37] <RockyBurt> delire: i've rebooted several times in fact
[03:37] <zcat[1] > is there a .gb ?
[03:37] <AngryParsley> unless those sectors contained important software for a life-support machine
[03:38] <zcat[1] > or a nuclear reactor..
[03:38] <zcat[1] > that could kill lots of people
[03:38] <AngryParsley> and it that case it's more like the bad sectors let the patient die
[03:38] <AngryParsley> I guess, but modern reactors limit themselves mechanically
[03:38] <zcat[1] > oh weit, NT isn't certified for running nuclear reactors.
[03:38] <AngryParsley> hehe
[03:38] <delire> RockyBurt: ok, i'm sure the problem is easily resolveable.
[03:39] <zcat[1] > it says so in the EULA!
[03:39] <Ainvar> I am in need of assistance
[03:39] <theblue> Ainvar: What with?
[03:39] <Ainvar> my laptop is dualboot xp and ubuntu 5.10
[03:39] <Ainvar> ubuntu is on reiserfs
[03:39] <Ainvar> and it is complaing about bad inode
[03:39] <Ainvar> how can I tell it to do a reiserfsck on bootup
[03:39] <theblue> Ainvar: Sorry, I've never touched breezy yet, I can't help you.
[03:39] <aurax> any good fax server howto out there?
[03:39] <aurax> with email routing and all
[03:40] <sker0> Algum aqui fala portugus
[03:40] <Ainvar> well is there a way I can tell reiserfsck to run on startup?
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[06:32] <dcell> Is it possible to mount a directory and have the mounted directory behave as /dev/cdrom?
[06:33] <eu_neke> dcell: what do you mean by that?
[06:33] <PassionLim> And the key to adjust brightness doesn't work after upgrading breezy from hoary. My laptop is samsung X05. I don't know whether setting is wrong or breezy doesn't support my laptop.
[06:34] <mshade> How stable is the Breezy preview release?
[06:34] <dcell> eu_neke, I have a directory that has dvd files in it (vob) and I would like to have mplayer see that directory like a dvd drive
[06:34] <kurtbec> what is the command to find out which package a file belongs too?
[06:35] <eu_neke> dcell: you should be able to tell mplayer to play a "DVD" from a directory. I can't remember off the top of my head how to do so though
[06:35] <crimsun> dpkg -S somefile
[06:35] <crimsun> kurtbec: otherwise use apt-file or packages.ubuntu.com
[06:35] <dcell> eu_neke, okay.  I will try that then.  Thanks.
[06:35] <kurtbec> crimsun: thanks for the tip!
[06:36] <tzapachuau> can someone suggest a good movie player
[06:36] <Baz> Hello
[06:36] <eu_neke> tzapachuau: I always used to use xine, but I hear vlc is good too
[06:36] <_jason> tzapachuau:  I like totem-xine and mplayer
[06:36] <kurtbec> tzapachuau: i've always been fond of zine
[06:36] <PassionLim> I'm using totem. It's enough to see a movie.
[06:36] <Bazkaz> Are you all using Ubuntu?
[06:36] <tzapachuau> vlc is not good
[06:36] <tzapachuau> does not support Esound
[06:36] <snausages> yes it is
[06:37] <snausages> vlc is great
[06:37] <PassionLim> yeap.. I'm using Ubuntu. :)
[06:37] <kurtbec> xine or mplayer are both good.
[06:37] <eu_neke> tzapachuau: I think you'll find that it is ESD that is not good =P
[06:37] <snausages> mplayer crashes all the time
[06:37] <tzapachuau> can we get mplayet through aptget
[06:37] <tzapachuau> lol
[06:37] <AngryParsley> vlc is buggy as hell on my system, but it's the only thing that let's me change A/V sync
[06:37] <_jason> !tell tzapachuau about mpalyer
[06:37] <_jason> bah
[06:37] <mshade> xine crashes all the time on my system
[06:37] <_jason> !tell tzapachuau about mplayer
[06:37] <Bazkaz> Passion: I can connect to IRC (obviously) but the internet in firefox wont pull up
[06:37] <mshade> mplayer tends to be stable as all get out
[06:37] <AngryParsley> totem works fine, but doesn't have much in the way of config stuff
[06:37] <Bazkaz> any ideas?
[06:37] <PassionLim> totem sometimes crash when embeded in the firefox..
[06:38] <snausages> mplayer is, mkoy
[06:38] <snausages> err
[06:38] <snausages> mplayer is BAD, mkoy
[06:38] <snausages> ^_^
[06:38] <ratte_> chromium:
[06:38] <ratte_>  Hngt ab: libsmpeg0 aber es wird nicht installiert
[06:38] <ratte_>  Hngt ab: chromium-data aber es wird nicht installiert
[06:38] <eu_neke> dcell: mplayer -dvd-device <directory> dvd://<whatever>
[06:38] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, type about:config
[06:38] <ratte_> what does mean?
[06:38] <Bazkaz> about:config
[06:38] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, in firefox
[06:38] <tzapachuau> My VLC player does not output a sound
[06:38] <tzapachuau> lol
[06:38] <Bazkaz> ahh hehe =)
[06:38] <tzapachuau> i have changed all the output settings
[06:38] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, network.dns.disableIPv6 find this & double click it to disable it
[06:38] <snausages> tzapachuau turn up the volume
[06:39] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, then restart firefox & see if it will surf
[06:39] <kurtbec> nice to see they got amarok 1.3 in breezy :-)
[06:39] <Bazkaz> ok I'll try that
[06:39] <tzapachuau> lol snausages the volume it turned up
[06:39] <snausages> hehe
[06:39] <tzapachuau> infact i have kept it at the max
[06:39] <VR^> mhm
[06:39] <crimsun> kurtbec: 1.3.1+most important fix from 1.3.2
[06:40] <eu_neke> tzapachuau: try killing esd then launching vlc, you hould get audio then =P
[06:40] <tzapachuau> what output sound do u suggest
[06:40] <crimsun> eu_neke: probably better to recommend installing vlc-plugin-esd
[06:40] <tzapachuau> i have only oss
[06:40] <tzapachuau> in my option
[06:40] <eu_neke> crimsun: yes, but I like avoiding esd.
[06:40] <tzapachuau> oss and dummy and file
[06:41] <eu_neke> tzapachuau: try what crimsun just suggested.
[06:41] <Bazkaz> WhiteRabbit, It works! Thanks
[06:42] <tzapachuau> that would be great
[06:42] <tzapachuau> thanks alot
[06:42] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, you have a router firewall in your modem or a sep router
[06:42] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, & the ipv6 packets were resizing the windows once it hit the router & timing the port 80 connections out!
[06:42] <mahangu> i cant seem to find mplayer on the repos
[06:42] <mahangu> and totem doesnt play .wmv
[06:42] <mahangu> what can i do?
[06:42] <tzapachuau> brb
[06:42] <crimsun> mahangu: multiverse, and you need w32codecs
[06:43] <Bazkaz> Ahh good call. Thanks again.
[06:43] <eu_neke> mahangu: or build from source  =P
[06:43] <philc> synergy rocks my world
[06:43] <mahangu> crimsun, how can i do that?
[06:43] <mahangu> what's the repo, and how do i get w32 codecs?
[06:43] <crimsun> mahangu: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:44] <Bazkaz> While I'm at it I've got another n00b question. How can I see my other hard drive?
[06:44] <crimsun> !tell mahangu about repos
[06:44] <mahangu> bakaz, you have to mount it
[06:44] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, is it ntfs?
[06:44] <Bazkaz> yes
[06:44] <WhiteRabbit> !ntfs
[06:44] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[06:44] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, read that link
[06:45] <Bazkaz> sweet.
[06:45] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, wait til you get our bill!
[06:45] <WhiteRabbit> j/k
[06:45] <eu_neke> jeff_: welcome back. how'd the wifi go?
[06:45] <Bazkaz> hehe
[06:47] <yoink> !tell yoink about fat32
[06:50] <Bazkaz> If I'm running a live version of Ubuntu and I restart do I have to "re-install" the live version?
[06:50] <crimsun> yes, it will "re-install" itself
[06:50] <K^Holtz> i thought u coudl only read NTFS drives? is that true?
[06:50] <bob2> correct
[06:50] <bob2> unless you use captive-ntfs
[06:50] <Bazkaz> thx crimsun
[06:51] <Bazkaz> Will I get to reset my root password if I restart?
[06:51] <bob2> it loses all state
[06:51] <K^Holtz> so basicaly my 320 GB ext HDD would be worthless in a linux environment
[06:51] <K^Holtz> unless i converted it to FAT, but then i have the transfer size issue.. right?
[06:51] <crimsun> Bazkaz: there is no root password on the live cd, either
[06:52] <din> gn
[06:52] <whyameye> when I click on .mp4 files I get a security warning asking me if I want to proceed? How can I get rid of this warning? It is messing up my ooimpress presentation.
[06:52] <Bazkaz> it asked me to set one, but now doesn't recognize when it asks me for a password
[06:52] <Razor-X> K^Holtz: unless you repartition, or use captive-ntfs, then yeah
[06:52] <K^Holtz> what is captive-ntfs? should i google it?
[06:53] <Razor-X> K^Holtz: unfortunately, you have to recompile the kernel for captive, last time I checked
[06:53] <K^Holtz> not worth it
[06:53] <Razor-X> K^Holtz: yeah, I know
[06:54] <crimsun> Bazkaz: hmm? the live cds don't ask for a root password to be set
[06:54] <whyameye> you can just mount with captive-ntfs in Hoary.
[06:54] <Razor-X> whyameye: I googled last time (and that was months ago, though), and found that you need to recompile
[06:54] <Bazkaz> Crimsun: Really? It asked me to set a root password and then told me I needed to create a user account (which it did for me,but didn't ask me for a name or pw)
[06:55] <whyameye> well, I've mounted an ntfs drive using captive...
[06:55] <Razor-X> hmmm....
[06:55] <K^Holtz> so could someone give me a rundown of what i would have to do to get my NTFS hard drive working?
[06:55] <crimsun> Bazkaz: well, your user has sudo access, so you can reset the root passwd that way
[06:55] <K^Holtz> just download captive, and type a command.. and it works?
[06:55] <K^Holtz> (provided you dont recompile)
[06:56] <whyameye> the biggest pain about captive is that you need the windows NTFS driver...which you need to get from a Windows OS. I know XP SP1 works and XP SP2 doesn't.
[06:56] <Razor-X> whyameye: I never updated to SP2
[06:56] <whyameye> captive will look for the driver on your drive, I believe.
[06:56] <Razor-X> so, i'm done
[06:56] <whyameye> then you are in luck!
[06:56] <K^Holtz> well.. wouldnt that have come w/ the installation cd of the HDD?
[06:56] <Razor-X> whyameye: if that's true, then, I'll set up captive on my own
[06:56] <Razor-X> is it in the repos?
[06:56] <whyameye> you might have to help it find the driver.
[06:56] <whyameye> but there are pretty good directions on the web. Can't remember where.
[06:56] <dallas_> anyone good with ATI cards?
[06:57] <wickedpuppy> dallas_, just ask it ... #ubuntu
[06:57] <wickedpuppy> now nike is going to sue me .. hiaz
[06:57] <mahangu> will gxine play wmv with the right codecs?
[06:57] <K^Holtz> wow.. ok, that was a big help.. provided its that simple :)
[06:57] <whyameye> captive is supposed to be slower reading than the ntfs reader built-in. I've never confirmed this.
[06:57] <dallas_> My ATI control panel doesn't detect my card right, I have an X700 it lists the card type as unkown
[06:58] <whyameye> I don't know if you can automate mounting to captive-ntfs. I'm sure there's a way....
[06:58] <K^Holtz> im not that worried about speed... better to have a slow drive than not one at all
[06:58] <mhz> any TFTP person here????
[06:58] <Razor-X> whyameye: hmmm, should I google, or can you point me there?
[06:58] <wickedpuppy> dallas_, ah ... now that is a question more suited to ATI the company ??
[06:58] <Razor-X> and I can script automation, if it's simple enough
[06:58] <bob2> mhz: that's really annoying
[06:58] <bob2> mhz: just ask your question
[06:58] <bz0b> hey guys
[06:59] <bz0b> anyone tell me how i would fix this? $ fixme:vxd:VXD_Open Unknown/unsupported VxD L"scsi0:.vxd". Try setting Windows version to 'nt40' or 'win31'.
[06:59] <bz0b> fixme:vxd:VXD_Open Unknown/unsupported VxD L"scsi1:.vxd". Try setting Windows version to 'nt40' or 'win31'.
[06:59] <mhz> bob2: why annoying?
[06:59] <Bazkaz> crimsun: any way to reset my user pw?
[06:59] <bob2> mhz: omg!1111
[06:59] <mhz> oh, ok
[06:59] <bob2> mhz: just ask your question, no need for annoying levels of punctuation
[06:59] <tritium> mhz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[06:59] <crimsun> Bazkaz: just set one. There isn't one for 'ubuntu' by default.
[06:59] <dallas_> wickedpuppy, as in ask ATI?
[06:59] <mhz> tritium: I started there 7 hours ago, and i am still stuck here :(
[06:59] <whyameye> Razor-X, I can't remember exactly what I did. I just Googled myself out of curiousity and turned up this. http://www.kruyt.org/?sub_item=46
[07:00] <wickedpuppy> yes ... it seems to be their program can't detect their software
[07:00] <K^Holtz> how are they at getting you your cds on time?.. are they usually faster or slower than the posted amount of weeks?
[07:00] <tritium> sorry, mhz
[07:00] <wickedpuppy> that frankly is out of our hands ??
[07:00] <wickedpuppy> Bazkaz, passwd
[07:00] <mhz> tritium: np
[07:00] <bob2> mhz: where did you explain the problem?
[07:00] <Bazkaz> crimsun: I tried, but it asks me to confirm my password first, which it's not recognizing
[07:01] <wickedpuppy> Bazkaz, can you sudo then ??
[07:01] <crimsun> Bazkaz: other way. sudo -s, then passwd ubuntu
[07:01] <mhz> bob2: #elive, #ubuntu-laptop, #kubuntu, #debian (the latter 6 hours ago)
[07:01] <bz0b> bob2, do you know what this means? $ fixme:vxd:VXD_Open Unknown/unsupported VxD L"scsi0:.vxd". Try setting Windows version to 'nt40' or 'win31'.
[07:01] <bz0b> fixme:vxd:VXD_Open Unknown/unsupported VxD L"scsi1:.vxd". Try setting Windows version to 'nt40' or 'win31'.
[07:02] <bob2> mhz: er
[07:02] <Bazkaz> wickedpuppy: I'm not totally sure what sudo is, but so far no.
[07:02] <bob2> mhz: presumably you're not having the identical problem on Debian and Ubuntu
[07:02] <Bazkaz> crimsun: tried ubuntu as password and no go
[07:03] <bob2> mhz: there's no tftp to restart, it runs out of inetd
[07:03] <mhz> bob2: I get DHCP right, but when it comes to TFTP.. it times out and reboots to windows :(
[07:03] <wickedpuppy> !sudo
[07:03] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:03] <bob2> mhz: and you still don't seem to have explained what isnt working
[07:03] <bob2> bz0b: sounds like you're doing something odd in wine
[07:03] <wickedpuppy> Bazkaz, pls read the link that ubotu shows
[07:03] <mahangu> bob2, how can i check which processes are using my sound car
[07:03] <mahangu> *d
[07:03] <mahangu> i want to kill them
[07:03] <mahangu> xmms wont play
[07:03] <Bazkaz> reading it now
[07:03] <bz0b> bob2,  i am trying to run online poker, i even tried cedega
[07:04] <bob2> mahangu: fuser -v /dev/dsp
[07:04] <crimsun> mahangu: make sure XMMS is using the esound output plugin if you haven't changed the audio settings
[07:04] <bob2> bz0b: well, try #winehq or something
[07:04] <mahangu> crimsun, yeah that\s what im using
[07:05] <tzapachuau> is vlc-esd pluggin available through apt-get
[07:05] <mhz> bob2: I have a Fujitsu laptop, thin laptop (no cd nor floppy, not usb booting). I must install linux there, but I have 2 options and both have failed. a) Grub4Nt v.0.4 is broken and I can't find 0.2   b) local netboot fails in TFTP :(
[07:05] <mahangu> bob2, that returns nothing
[07:06] <bob2> mahangu: then nothing is using OSS sound output
[07:06] <mahangu> bah
[07:06] <mahangu> wtf is wrong, wierd
[07:06] <bob2> lots of things could be wrong
[07:06] <bob2> fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[07:06] <mahangu> also, when my wifi drops, i have to reboot for it to connect agian
[07:06] <bob2> does 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp' make sound? etc
[07:06] <mahangu> i do /etc/init.d/networking restart, iwconfig, ifup eth0 etc
[07:07] <mahangu> bob2, dev/dsp no such device
[07:07] <dallas_> anyone have any ideas on my ATI control panel not picking my card up right?
[07:07] <crimsun> mahangu: that leading '/' is important
[07:07] <ezequiel> hola gente
[07:08] <mhz> hola
[07:08] <ezequiel> tengo un problema con firefox
[07:08] <tritium> ezequiel, #ubuntu-es, por favor
[07:08] <ezequiel> oks
[07:08] <ezequiel> no la tengo muy clara
[07:08] <ezequiel> gracias
[07:08] <mhz> tritium: good spanish you have
[07:08] <Bazkaz> wickedpuppy: Ok I read it. I tried adding a new sudo user, but it wants my password first. Anyway to reset my current user password?
[07:08] <tritium> mhz, heh, thanks.  I'd hope so, living in New Mexico ;)
[07:08] <mhz> LOL
[07:09] <MFen> how do i officially register my vote that the next (yet-unnamed) ubuntu release be called Clumsy Clawshrimp?
[07:10] <mahangu> crimsun, thanks!
[07:10] <bob2> MFen: you buy mark a big jug of beer
[07:10] <mahangu> it beeped my ass of :)
[07:10] <bob2> and make him drink it
[07:10] <mahangu> ok so what's wrong?
[07:10] <bob2> then make him send an email to the devel list about it
[07:10] <wickedpuppy> Bazkaz, you don't have tp add a new sudo user
[07:10] <dooglus> MFen: get in line.  I already requested "Unhelpful Unicorn" and "Deceitful Dodo" for the next 2 releases
[07:11] <wickedpuppy> you are already in sudo user group
[07:11] <MFen> but Clawshrimp has /cred/, man.
[07:11] <wickedpuppy> thats how ubuntu is set up
[07:11] <MFen> it says "i'm street. i read penny arcade."
[07:11] <MFen> or whatever.
[07:11] <wickedpuppy> you don't touch root ... you do everything through sudo
[07:12] <Bazkaz> wickedpuppy: Ok. So am I out of luck since it's not recognizing the password it keeps asking me for in sudo?
[07:12] <mahangu> bob2, it beeped
[07:12] <MFen> wickedpuppy: you could argue that using sudo involves touching root. but consensually.
[07:13] <wickedpuppy> lol ... touching root indirectly .. sure ... not directly .. and only root can add sudo users so its much safer
[07:13] <wickedpuppy> Bazkaz, if your current pass is screwed ... i suggest you reboot at at the boot prompt type "linux single"
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> oh and pls check again for caps lock and such
[07:14] <Bazkaz> what will linux single do?
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> it will drop you into single user shell ... meaning root shell ..
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> google for more info on what to do when root pass is lost
[07:15] <Bazkaz> wickedpuppy: since I'm running off live CD can I avoid problems if I use the other install CD to install ubuntu on my hard drive?
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> you are running live cd ?
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> ...
[07:16] <Bazkaz> yes
[07:16] <Bazkaz> sorry I thought you knew
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> and you lost your password ??
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> forgive me but i don't remember live cd asking me to set any password
[07:16] <Bazkaz> well I didn't lose it, it just isn't recognized when I enter it
[07:17] <bob2> it doesnt have one
[07:17] <bob2> unless you set it
[07:17] <wickedpuppy> lol
[07:17] <Bazkaz> which I did, because that's what it suggested.
[07:17] <Bazkaz> bad move I guess?
[07:17] <wickedpuppy> it suggested ??
[07:17] <Bazkaz> I entered it twice to confirm and now it doesn't take it as the password.
[07:18] <bob2> "doesn't take it"?
[07:18] <wickedpuppy> Bazkaz, just reboot .. live cd doesn't store anything
[07:18] <Bazkaz> Yeah on the install. It gave me the option of entering a password and told me it was better for me to.
[07:18] <Bazkaz> ok
[07:18] <Bazkaz> Sorry for the confusion
[07:18] <wickedpuppy> ? now live cd has this option ?
[07:18] <wickedpuppy> wow ...
[07:18] <bob2> Bazkaz: what?
[07:19] <bob2> Bazkaz: you need to tell us in what way it is not accepting your password
[07:20] <Bazkaz> bob2: it asks for my password when I try to change the date, do sudo stuff in terminal... and when i enter the password it says incorrent password. Lets me try 3 times and then takes me back to terminal prompt
[07:21] <dallas_> Anyone got any ideas on my ATI control panel not detecting my card right?
[07:21] <mhz> Bazkaz: are you using your password ??
[07:21] <Bazkaz> I'm going to restart now. I'll be back... let you know what happens.
[07:22] <Bazkaz> mhz: i tried, but it doesn't recognize it
[07:22] <mhz> are you sure not using CAPS
[07:23] <Bazkaz> yup no caps
[07:24] <Bazkaz> BRB
[07:25] <breakthestate> anyone got any recommendations for a laptop wireless pci card to work out of the box with breezy?
[07:25] <tritium> breakthestate, ipw2200 support is great
[07:25] <bob2> prism or intel or atheros
[07:26] <breakthestate> tritium is that a chipset?
[07:26] <tritium> breakthestate, yes
[07:26] <tritium> (Intel)
[07:26] <bob2> just avoid broadcom and you should be fine
[07:28] <Pistahh> bob2: could you recommend a good-working PCI wireless card? (not chipset..)
[07:28] <scribbles> http://www.big-boys.com/articles/drifting.html
[07:28] <scribbles> whenever I try to view that
[07:28] <scribbles> I see the drag bar, then it all goes gray
[07:28] <scribbles> I've installed the multimedia codecs
[07:28] <scribbles> and what nots
[07:29] <scribbles> is it a firefox plugin thats missing?
[07:29] <wickedpuppy> i got error about mplayer plugin
[07:30] <breakthestate> is having trouble finding out which brands of pci card manufacturers use the ipw2200 chipset
[07:30] <wickedpuppy> breakthestate, google ?
[07:32] <breakthestate> wickedpuppy: thx, i'm trying right now, but i prefer the advice of ubuntu community when it comes to buying hardware, and i'm using breezy so i want to make sure the advice i see in a wiki is up to date.  therefore, i ask on irc
[07:32] <mae> when is breezy slated for final release?
[07:32] <wickedpuppy> mae 13th
[07:32] <mae> nice :)
[07:32] <calc> breakthestate: intel
[07:33] <calc> breakthestate: i think... only intel
[07:33] <calc> breakthestate: its the wireless chipset to make centrino platform
[07:33] <ubuntu_> !ntfs
[07:33] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[07:33] <calc> breakthestate: there is 2100b 2200bg 2915abg (and maybe a few others)
[07:33] <Bazkaz> Ok I'm back
[07:34] <breakthestate> calc: aren't those all internal cards?
[07:34] <calc> breakthestate: yes all mini-pci
[07:34] <Bazkaz> the world is already a much friendlier place
[07:34] <breakthestate> oh, i'm looking for normal pci, but maybe i have the name wrong, the kind you stick into the side of your laptop?
[07:34] <crimsun> (pcmcia)
[07:35] <breakthestate> ah hah
[07:35] <calc> breakthestate: pcmcia/cardbus/pcie
[07:35] <breakthestate> calc, crimsun: thx
[07:35] <calc> depending on how new your laptop is
[07:35] <calc> i don't know that any of the intel chipsets are available in any form factor other than internal mini-pci
[07:35] <calc> its possible but highly unlikely
[07:36] <calc> i put a 2915abg into my amd64 laptop
[07:36] <breakthestate> so how about breezy for pcmcia, i have this atheros that won't work
[07:36] <Bazkaz> wickedpuppy: Thanks for all the help. The restart did it. Much easier "installation" this time.
[07:36] <wickedpuppy> okie ..
[07:36] <wickedpuppy> np
[07:36] <calc> breakthestate: no idea never used atheros
[07:38] <speel> hey any one knows if breezy will have native ipod support?
[07:40] <crimsun> speel: "native"?
[07:41] <Navatiu> hi all
[07:43] <speel> Bah i mean like plug it in and somthing comes up to help you import songs to it
[07:43] <crimsun> speel: not that I'm aware. You'll need to install gtkpod or something from universe.3
[07:43] <crimsun> -3
[07:43] <iiiears___> Hello! :)
[07:44] <Navatiu> i just ordered ubuntu linux to see how good it is.. only i touched so far are SuSe 9.0 and it seem okay though.
[07:44] <speel> ah ok thanks
[07:46] <iiiears___> Navatiu - Ubuntu is awesome. :)   so many choices Gnome or KDE "K"Ubuntu
[07:46] <iiiears___> Preconfigured packages for XFCE/4
[07:47] <iiiears___> the best part of it all is the helpful people here.
[07:48] <glick> it sucks that i cant get interactive C working in linux :(
[07:49] <glick> when will gmail stop with their stupid gmail invites and just open gmail up
[07:49] <iiiears___> nVidia-GLX seems to slow down after my machine has been on a few hours. Would using drivers from the nvidia site help this?
[07:49] <glick> ive got 100 invites left!
[07:50] <glick> anyone want gmail!
[07:50] <PassionLim> how can i install a program from source using apt-get?
[07:50] <glick> whoooo
[07:50] <iiiears___> glick - lol
[07:50] <PassionLim> I've got 100 invites left, too!
[07:50] <bob2> PassionLim: e.g.?
[07:50] <coobra> me to :)
[07:50] <glick> i know ill send an invite to someon at gmail
[07:51] <PassionLim> I just wanna compile to install package.
[07:51] <coobra> well 100 x 50 or somting :P
[07:51] <cafuego_> Yeah, keep the invites and start using gmailraidfs
[07:51] <bob2> PassionLim: and the package is...?
[07:51] <PassionLim> acpi-support
[07:51] <bob2> which is already in ubuntu
[07:51] <cafuego_> iiiears___: No.
[07:51] <bob2> and is a set of shell scripts
[07:51] <iiiears___> Thanks cafuego. :)
[07:51] <PassionLim> but new version 0.43 is not available.
[07:51] <cafuego_> iiiears___: Are you using the xrender extensions
[07:52] <QMario> Nalioth, now I have this error:
[07:52] <crimsun> PassionLim: patience, it'll appear soon enough.
[07:52] <PassionLim> :)
[07:52] <glick> whats gmailraidfs?
[07:52] <iiiears___> cafuego - i don't know what those are? aceleration?
[07:52] <QMario> Good night cafuego and bob2!!! :)
[07:52] <cafuego_> iiiears___: transparency.
[07:52] <iiiears___> cafuego - Yes, on the desktop.
[07:53] <cafuego_> iiiears___: They contain memory leaks, so that's what will be causing the slowdown.
[07:53] <iiiears___> cafuego - you are a genius. - (turning off transparency now.)
[07:55] <Navatiu> um.. i wonder if ubuntu has lastest python 2.4 in it?
[07:55] <Navatiu> shrug
[07:55] <Navatiu> i am not veteran linux user yet though heh
[07:55] <iiiears___> cafuego - would using an image instead of transparency cause the same problem? same libraries?
[07:55] <Navatiu> i been using SuSe for a month and went back to window 98(i never went upgrade ever)
[07:56] <poningru> Navatiu: I will go with yes
[07:56] <poningru> Navatiu: 2.4.1
[07:56] <Navatiu> ok thanks
[07:56] <poningru> but obviously if the new one came out
[07:56] <poningru> it will be in breazy
[07:56] <Navatiu> athough i love one thing about linux, less crash though.
[07:57] <poningru> Navatiu: what dont you like about linux?
[07:57] <tzapachuau> how do i see a list of softwares tht i can install with apt-get ... using wild cards
[07:57] <Navatiu> well... heh, permission on console... i have to get used to it. heh
[07:57] <poningru> Navatiu: I guess, but you can always just use the root user
[07:57] <Hobbsee> tzapachuau: use synaptic?  there's probably a command for it though, but synaptic will give you descriptions of everything too
[07:57] <Navatiu> anyway i try to use Konsole for awhile, it sudden frozen for some reason i dont know why.. it work fine on TTY console without crash.
[07:57] <poningru> but I prefer sudo
[07:58] <tzapachuau> ok
[07:58] <iiiears___> Navatiu - 98 has hardware drivers sharing kernel space in ram. - one hardware hiccup crashes the whole machine.  - linux and to some extent XP have a much better handle on things
[07:58] <Navatiu> strange konsole
[07:58] <tzapachuau> !help
[07:58] <Navatiu> ah i see iiears
[07:58] <scribbles> E: Package azureus has no installation candidate
[07:58] <scribbles> anyone get that?
[07:58] <poningru> scribbles: it sure does
[07:58] <poningru> I have it installed right now
[07:58] <tzapachuau> !tell apt-get tzapachuau
[07:58] <scribbles> heh then whats the problem
[07:59] <Hobbsee> !apt-get
[07:59] <ubotu> methinks apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[07:59] <scribbles> sudo apt-get install azureus
[07:59] <epiloc> gtkpod cant connect to my ipod.  I changed the default mount path to media:/sda2 (where my machine picks up the ipod) but gtkpod still doesnt connect... any ipod users here running gtkpod successfully?
[07:59] <BlankB> tzapachuau: apt-cache search packagename
[07:59] <tzapachuau> thanks BlankB
[07:59] <tzapachuau> can i use wild cards with it?
[07:59] <BlankB> regex wildcards
[08:00] <poningru> scribbles: you sure you are using the latest backports?
[08:00] <scribbles> I commented them out
[08:00] <poningru> err the official backports
[08:00] <scribbles> because the mirrirmax ones are down
[08:00] <scribbles> are there new ones?
[08:00] <poningru> !tell scribbles about backports
[08:01] <ronalde> the folders in one imap-account in evolution seem empty (but aren't)... any clues
[08:01] <scribbles> I'm using breezy
[08:01] <scribbles> shoul di just change hoary to breezy
[08:01] <poningru> scribbles: nm
[08:01] <poningru> scribbles: what do you mean?
[08:01] <poningru> wait how did you start using breazy?
[08:01] <poningru> ronalde: ctrl+h in nautilus
[08:01] <epiloc> anyone in here help me out with my ipod?
[08:01] <poningru> ronalde: its most likely that they are hidden
[08:02] <scribbles> well in the msg I got
[08:02] <scribbles> it told me the link to add
[08:02] <scribbles> should I just change where it says hoary to breezy
[08:02] <tzapachuau> does anyone have successfully installed vlc-pluggin for esd
[08:02] <dell500> anyone know the port for gallery server?
[08:03] <poningru> scribbles: yeah
[08:03] <poningru> oops
[08:03] <poningru> hmm hold on
[08:04] <qsrv> hi
[08:04] <qsrv> any thinkpad users here?
[08:05] <cafuego_> Just ask the question, don't hold polls.
[08:06] <qsrv> heh, sorry
[08:06] <qsrv> I'm trying to get ubuntu to work on my t43 thinkpad
[08:06] <poningru> scribbles: nope just do what the msg said
[08:06] <qsrv> first hing I did after installing 5.10 was to get the 686 kernel
[08:07] <iiiears___> rofl - nVidia 6600GT 3.4 FPS.   Hehe.   -   I need a command to clean up ram after killing/restarting gnome-panel.
[08:07] <neotrophy> Xserver upgrade for Breezy is safe now?
[08:07] <qsrv> but when I use it, the network is really unstable
[08:07] <tzapachuau> i cant play a VCD file with my totem movie player
[08:07] <tzapachuau> can someone help me
[08:07] <scribbles> poningru, it doesn't need to be breezy-backports?
[08:07] <qsrv> even though I see no errors in the logs
[08:07] <lemics_> get vlc player
[08:07] <greg> could someone here help me with authentication to seveas repo? Perhaps seveas
[08:07] <tzapachuau> here were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/tzapachuau/Desktop/Mapuia%26Johana.MPG", you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[08:07] <poningru> scribbles: when they say hoary-backports they mean the new stuff for breazy
[08:07] <scribbles> AHHHH
[08:07] <poningru> err from breazy
[08:08] <Navatiu> vlc player for linux? ah right i forgot about it. :)
[08:08] <scribbles> thx poningru
[08:08] <poningru> np
[08:08] <qsrv> so that's the first problem : network is periodically disonnecting. I'm using the tg3 driver
[08:09] <padmawan> tzapachuau: use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer
[08:09] <BlankB> qsrv: what do you mean by disconnecting?
[08:10] <tzapachuau> padmawan,  how do i get that
[08:10] <tzapachuau> okay
[08:10] <tzapachuau> apt-get
[08:10] <tzapachuau> :)
[08:11] <qsrv> well, I connect
[08:11] <padmawan> tzapachuau: it's in universe
[08:12] <MadpilotPPC> !tell tzapachuau about restricted
[08:12] <MadpilotPPC> tzapachuau, totem-zine info at the URL you just got from ubotu...
[08:12] <qsrv> then for example try to download a few packages and it all stops. DNS is not responding, can't even ping anything
[08:12] <CaiN_SA> guys, which kernel must i install to give my amd 64 pc 64bit support ?
[08:12] <poningru> CaiN_SA: you have to use all 64 bit software
[08:12] <bob2> CaiN_SA: have you installed the amd64 port of ubuntu?
[08:12] <BlankB> when it does that do an 'ifconfig' command and see if there are any errors on the interface.
[08:13] <neotrophy> Anyone know where I can get a deb transcode for AMD64?  It's not in the repository in the restricted formats section of the wiki
[08:13] <tzapachuau> thanks
[08:13] <CaiN_SA> bob2, no i want to know which packages i must install to make it 64bit ready
[08:14] <qsrv> ok, I'll try that
[08:14] <poningru> CaiN_SA: the thing is just installing the kernel is not going to work
[08:14] <bob2> CaiN_SA: that's not how the world works
[08:14] <poningru> you have to have the entire software package in 64bit
[08:14] <bob2> CaiN_SA: if you want to run the amd64 port on your machine, that's what you need to install
[08:14] <CaiN_SA> sigh bob2
[08:14] <poningru> err entire OS
[08:14] <bob2> CaiN_SA: istalling a 64-bit amd64 kernel on i386 does not do anything about your applications
[08:15] <CaiN_SA> its debian based
[08:15] <CaiN_SA> if i install the correct apps
[08:15] <CaiN_SA> it will make it support 64bit
[08:15] <CaiN_SA> so i need more than kernel
[08:15] <neotrophy> Is there an easy(ish) way to get all of the 32 bit packages to install, but under lib32?
[08:15] <CaiN_SA> like what ?
[08:15] <Agrajag> no, you need EVERYTHING to be 64-bit
[08:15] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no, please stop
[08:15] <bob2> CaiN_SA: this is not how it works
[08:16] <bob2> CaiN_SA: if you want all your applications to be amd64 binaries, you need to install the amd64 port
[08:16] <Navatiu> 64-bit wont work on 1386 machine.
[08:16] <bob2> neotrophy: no
[08:16] <CaiN_SA> bob2, lol
[08:16] <Navatiu> i386 rather
[08:16] <CaiN_SA> ok so you say ubuntu does everything 6 times
[08:16] <bob2> neotrophy: basically everything that is in the i386 portion of the archive is also in the amd64
[08:16] <neotrophy> I didn't think so... was just wondering :)
[08:16] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no
[08:16] <CaiN_SA> since they got all those version
[08:16] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no
[08:17] <CaiN_SA> i dont use ubuntu
[08:17] <CaiN_SA> i work for impi
[08:17] <poningru> bob2: I think it would be better to point them toward a doc than explaining everything
[08:17] <Navatiu> impi?
[08:17] <neotrophy> There are a few things missing, but I think I've got most of them now.  Had great fun with the flash plugin though :)
[08:17] <CaiN_SA> and was just wondering if there was an easy way
[08:17] <CaiN_SA> of making a 64bit version
[08:17] <bob2> CaiN_SA: you appear to be very confused
[08:17] <CaiN_SA> impilinux as ing marks new company
[08:17] <bob2> CaiN_SA: do you know what the difference between an amd64 executable and an i386 one is?
[08:17] <scribbles> poningru: W: GPG error: http://mirror.noreply.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CFF71CB3AFA44BDD
[08:18] <bob2> scribbles: gpg --recv-key CFF71CB3AFA44BDD ; gpg --export CFF71CB3AFA44BDD | sudo apt-key add -
[08:18] <scribbles> thx bob, can you explain that?
[08:18] <neotrophy> I can't find transcode for AMD64 either
[08:18] <Navatiu> sigh
[08:19] <bob2> scribbles: gets the key. imports it into apt.
[08:19] <bob2> so apt doesn't complain about not having it
[08:19] <Navatiu> 64-bit appilication will work on 64-bit machine like amd64. it wont work on i386 machine though.
[08:19] <bob2> assuming you trust that key, but you probably have no way to check
[08:19] <scribbles> gpg: WARNING: options in `/home/stephen/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run
[08:19] <CaiN_SA> bob2, ok what you are saying is : ubuntu team recompiles everything with 64bit support.
[08:19] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no
[08:20] <scribbles> gpg: no keyserver known (use option --keyserver)
[08:20] <scribbles> gpg: keyserver receive failed: bad URI
[08:20] <scribbles> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
[08:20] <scribbles> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[08:20] <bob2> scribbles: stop pasting crap
[08:20] <scribbles> sorry
[08:20] <Navatiu> heh
[08:20] <CaiN_SA> then what bob2 cos your making no sence
[08:20] <AngryParsley> why does breezy come with an old copy of the java runtime environment?
[08:20] <bob2> scribbles: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net ...
[08:20] <bob2> CaiN_SA: because you don't seem to understand what an architecture is in Linux
[08:20] <CaiN_SA> AngryParsley, cos that is FREE java
[08:20] <bob2> CaiN_SA: ubuntu compiles each binary package for each architecture
[08:20] <CaiN_SA> thats what i asked
[08:20] <CaiN_SA> and you said no
[08:20] <bob2> CaiN_SA: once for powerpc, once for ia-64, once for i386, once for hppa, once for amd64
[08:21] <TokenBad> you can get firefox from apt-get right?
[08:21] <epiloc> ill try one more time... can anyone here help me with gtkpod?
[08:21] <AngryParsley> CaiN_SA: why can't I get JRE1.5?
[08:21] <CaiN_SA> ok bob2
[08:21] <bob2> TokenBad: it's installed by default
[08:21] <sn0n> TokenBad, firefox is default
[08:21] <AngryParsley> I don't care about free, I installed the win32 codecs
[08:21] <poningru> TokenBad: yeah
[08:21] <TokenBad> I know but on a machine that isn't
[08:21] <bob2> TokenBad: then reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[08:21] <TokenBad> a version of linux that it isn't
[08:21] <sn0n> TokenBad, i believe that firefox is a ubuntu-base
[08:21] <sn0n> so it is
[08:21] <scribbles> bob2: it said "Go Ahead and Type Your Message"
[08:21] <poningru> angeloo: you can get it
[08:21] <neotrophy> CaiN_SA: It's easier if you just think of the IA64 or AMD64 as a completely different processor.  1 that happens to emulate an IA32 processor very, very well
[08:21] <poningru> err
[08:21] <poningru> AngryParsley: you can get it
[08:21] <CaiN_SA> bob2, so if i want to make 64 bit version : dpkg -l , and make new breezy ( 64 bit ) and make sure all thos apps are installed ?
[08:21] <bob2> TokenBad: if you're not using ubuntu, you need to ask somewhere else
[08:21] <AngryParsley> so... is there anywhere I can find a deb of JRE1.5?
[08:22] <AngryParsley> poningru: where?
[08:22] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no, stop saying "64 bit"
[08:22] <poningru> AngryParsley: its in the reps
[08:22] <iiiears___> 
[08:22] <iiiears___> 
[08:22] <Agrajag> CaiN_SA: it doesn't work that way
[08:22] <bob2> iiiears___: no
[08:22] <AngryParsley> poningru: which one?
[08:22] <poningru> !tell AngryParsley about java
[08:22] <iiiears___> Oops - excuse me - (cats!)
[08:22] <bob2> scribbles: dude, the ... meant "replace with what I said before"
[08:22] <Navatiu> heh iiears
[08:22] <Razor-X> LUFS module is being stupid
[08:22] <bob2> CaiN_SA: "64 bit" is meaningless in this context
[08:22] <Hobbsee> poningru: jre 1.5 is no longer in repositories, it got taken out
[08:22] <TokenBad> I am using ubuntu
[08:22] <Navatiu> 'dog eat my papers' excuse, now it's cat 'cat did it, not me! so nya nya' :)
[08:23] <poningru> oops did not know that
[08:23] <poningru> Hobbsee: ic
[08:23] <bob2> CaiN_SA: if your question is "How do I convert an i386 install to an amd64 one", the answer is "reinstall"
[08:23] <CaiN_SA> bob2, ok IA64 ok
[08:23] <bob2> CaiN_SA: they are different architectures
[08:23] <CaiN_SA> bob2, whqat
[08:23] <TokenBad> or kubuntu..but anyway...I was just wondering if by default firefox was getable from apt-get
[08:23] <Agrajag> IA64 is not the same thing as AMD64
[08:23] <CaiN_SA> becoz i dont have ubuntu do i
[08:23] <bob2> TokenBad: yes, of course
[08:23] <bob2> CaiN_SA: this is how every OS works
[08:23] <Razor-X> rewrite "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/build/include/linux/modversions.h": Permission denied at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 87 -- what would cause that problem?
[08:23] <scribbles> bob2: just need to pipe it?
[08:23] <Agrajag> there isn't, to my knowledge, an IA64 ubuntu
[08:23] <Navatiu> IA64 use different spec than AMD64 is?
[08:23] <bob2> scribbles: dude
[08:23] <Navatiu> hmm i dunno
[08:23] <Hobbsee> poningru: search on ubuntuforums.org - there are a few threads that give you a five step method to do it, which works really nicely
[08:23] <Agrajag> IA64 is Itanium
[08:23] <bob2> scribbles: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key CFF71CB3AFA44BDD ; gpg --export CFF71CB3AFA44BDD | sudo apt-key add -
[08:23] <bob2> Navatiu: they are completely unrelated, yes
[08:24] <Navatiu> ok
[08:24] <bob2> Agrajag: it's non-official, but mostly exists
[08:24] <AngryParsley> poningru: ugh, why can't they just throw 1.5 in the multiverse repository?
[08:24] <neotrophy> Yeah, IA64 and AMD64 are very different instruction sets.
[08:24] <Agrajag> the newer P4suse EMT64, which is almost exactly the same as AMD64
[08:24] <TokenBad> thought so..thanks bob2
[08:24] <scribbles> sorry bob2, I couldn't find anything on this
[08:24] <AngryParsley> I have to download the installer and then translate it to a .deb
[08:24] <Navatiu> i know the architure concept myself, but i dont know they were actually diffrent than being similar(not SAME) heh.
[08:24] <poningru> AngryParsley: cause its not free
[08:24] <iiiears___> Do 32 bit applications conform to the no execute bit policy on 64 bit processors?
[08:24] <Hobbsee> AngryParsley: search on ubuntuforums.org - there are a few threads that give you a five step method to do it, which works really nicely
[08:24] <AngryParsley> poningru: I got the win32codecs from multiverse, and they're not free
[08:25] <Hobbsee> AngryParsley: when did you get the win32 codecs?  I think they've been taken out of the repositories as well, certainly were a week ago when i reinstalled kubuntu
[08:25] <neotrophy> iiiears___: no execute bit policy?
[08:25] <poningru> AngryParsley: its different case
[08:25] <poningru> and its been taken out
[08:26] <MadpilotPPC> Hobbsee, you can still get them, via devious means... check the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[08:26] <philc> I moved my desktop from wired to wireless networking, using a netgear wireless adapter. I can't host games online anymore; the ports and router are set up correctly. I have a feeling like this has something to do with the hardware. I know that most desktop wireless cards don't support bridging in linux, do issues like this affect what I can host?
[08:26] <bob2> no
[08:26] <AngryParsley> poningru: why? those are extremely important if you want to play any movies
[08:26] <iiiears___> The newer processors have RAM marked off into sections for each application to make it more difficult for buffer over flow/exploits to work.
[08:27] <poningru> bob2: ?
[08:27] <Hobbsee> MadpilotPPC: i'm aware of that - it's very fortunate!
[08:27] <p0windah> philc: shouldnt be any difference between wireless and a piece of cable
[08:27] <bob2> that's not quite how it works
[08:27] <neotrophy> AngryParsley: I *can't* run the win32 codecs and I haven't found anything I can't play yet.
[08:27] <CaiN_SA> elo wi
[08:27] <CaiN_SA> elo witblitz
[08:27] <MadpilotPPC> AngryParsley, legal reasons...
[08:27] <witblitz> ewwo
[08:27] <bob2> philc: no, unless the driver is oddly buggy
[08:27] <philc> p0windah: things like vmware care
[08:27] <witblitz> wies die poeskop?
[08:27] <Agrajag> VLC doesn't use w32codecs
[08:27] <philc> bob2: is there anyway I can monitor what packets are hitting a network device?
[08:27] <poningru> ok seriously these explanataion things are getting a little crowded
[08:27] <Navatiu> yeah legal reason
[08:27] <CaiN_SA> lol witblitz
[08:27] <bob2> philc: tcpdump would be the first thing I'd try, yeah
[08:27] <AngryParsley> neotrophy: so... what about your average WMV?
[08:28] <Hobbsee> poningru: that's why you use people's names when you're responding to someone - it generally comes up a different colour, or flashes the screen
[08:28] <poningru> philc: ethereal might help too
[08:28] <poningru> ?
[08:28] <CaiN_SA> bob sais you have to reinstall an os to give it 64bit support
[08:28] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no
[08:28] <bob2> CaiN_SA: stop confusing the issue
[08:28] <MrGardenHoseMan> In which directory(ies) is xchat installed by default?
[08:28] <scribbles> E: Package azureus has no installation candidate
[08:28] <scribbles>  <-- after all that
[08:28] <bob2> MrGardenHoseMan: dpkg -L xchat
[08:28] <Agrajag> there's no such thing as giving an OS 64 bit support.
[08:28] <neotrophy> Hmmm... I haven't actually tried one yet :)  But I think there are free wmv decoders.  I'm intrigued now.
[08:28] <poningru> seriousy dude read up on different architectures
[08:28] <AngryParsley> ok, so a script that gets the binary installer, translates it, and installs it should be made
[08:29] <AngryParsley> how would that satisfy the legal requirements?
[08:29] <bob2> CaiN_SA: your question appeared to be "How do I convert an ubuntu i386 system to and amd64 one?", and the answer to that is "reinstall"
[08:29] <scribbles> neotrophy: the w32codecs ARE available via apt-get
[08:29] <Agrajag> newer versions of ffmpeg are making progress on WMV9 apparently
[08:29] <neotrophy> Not much use on AMD64 though
[08:29] <msan> hallo
[08:29] <CaiN_SA> bob2, and if your making an operating system  ????? you cant reinstall something you dont have
[08:29] <msan> I'm new with ubuntu
[08:29] <bob2> CaiN_SA: dude, stop
[08:29] <Hobbsee> scribbles: they were taken out, they are not there now.
[08:29] <bob2> CaiN_SA: you're massively confusing yourself here
[08:29] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[08:29] <scribbles> !ubotu tell neotropy about w32codecs
[08:29] <msan> I've read that there is support for installing directly onto LVM volumes
[08:30] <msan> I'd like to use evms (http://evms.sourceforge.net/) instead lvm
[08:30] <bob2> CaiN_SA: if you have a specific question, ask it, perhaps in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:30] <msan> Is there support for installing onto EVMS volumes?
[08:30] <poningru> CaiN_SA: dude really read a book about different computer architectures
[08:30] <MadpilotPPC> !tell neotrophy abut w32codecs
[08:30] <scribbles> !ubotu tell neotrophy about w32codecs
[08:30] <scribbles> !ubotu tell hobbsee about w32codecs
[08:30] <CaiN_SA> poningru, lol
[08:30] <MadpilotPPC> scribbles, use either "ubotu <bla>" or just !tell when you're talking to ubotu
[08:30] <CaiN_SA> you obviously never used gentoo before
[08:30] <poningru> CaiN_SA: no I havent
[08:30] <jhuniepi> hello
[08:30] <scribbles> oh
[08:31] <CaiN_SA> becoz you can optimise your pc depending on what cpu you have
[08:31] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no, stop
[08:31] <bob2> CaiN_SA: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:31] <poningru> CaiN_SA: thats if you have same architecture
[08:31] <bob2> you're very very confused and taking up channel space
[08:31] <poningru> sigh sorry
[08:31] <msan> Is there support for installing ubuntu onto EVMS volumes?
[08:31] <scribbles> E: Package azureus has no installation candidate
[08:31] <scribbles>  still from apt-get
[08:31] <bob2> msan: yes
[08:31] <bob2> scribbles: yes, that's a clear error
[08:31] <witblitz> scribbles, probably not :P
[08:31] <msan> bob2, I've read only with lvm
[08:32] <bob2> scribbles: none of the sources in your sources.list have that package
[08:32] <Navatiu> hmm
[08:32] <scribbles> hrm, I added the new backports?
[08:32] <BlankB> scribbles: azureus works with the version from the main azureus site. you dont need it from a repo.
[08:32] <Navatiu> !ubotu tell navatiu about ubotu
[08:32] <ezequiel> join #ubuntu-es
[08:33] <BlankB> scribbles: I have been using the linux gtk version.
[08:33] <poningru> scribbles: you sure you have java installed?
[08:33] <_Rappy_> ok, s der e eg ikke sant
[08:33] <_Rappy_> p tur til hgskola for  slipp av min kjre, og s p tur videre til jobb
[08:33] <_Rappy_> hmm
[08:33] <_Rappy_> sooo, thw wrong chan
[08:34] <ezequiel> alguna herramienta para desarrollar en pascal y C?
[08:34] <ezequiel> tipo por rhine o kdevelop ?
[08:34] <ezequiel> de donde se puede bajar ?
[08:34] <scribbles> yea i have java installed
[08:34] <witblitz> /kick ezequiel ssht
[08:34] <scribbles> guess I just nee dto go get it from the website
[08:35] <Myrtti> !ubuntu-es
[08:35] <ubotu> Myrtti: What?
[08:35] <Myrtti> !es
[08:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:35] <Myrtti> !pt
[08:35] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:35] <iiiears___> where can you find tools to program in pascal and C the type for rhine or kdevelop and where are they filed under?
[08:36] <poningru> iiiears___: search for it in apt
[08:36] <bob2> iiiears___: build-essential installs you a full set of C compiler stuff
[08:36] <bob2> iiiears___: if you want kdevelop, just install it
[08:36] <iiiears___> lol - i live in so-cal - gotta speak spanish here.
[08:36] <FR500> iiiears___: for offtopic goto #ubuntu-offtopic :p
[08:37] <jay-ar> how can i make my ati 9250 run nice in games?
[08:37] <iiiears___> ROFL - you are right again.
[08:37] <poningru> !tell jay-ar about ati
[08:37] <FR500> !tell fr500 about ati
[08:37] <fantasai> where is Java installed to?
[08:38] <fantasai> I ran the installer, but I can't find any files
[08:38] <FR500> fantasai: in /usr/share/lib or something, what do u need the files for?
[08:38] <fantasai> to run them?
[08:39] <neotrophy> LOL... followed the howto.  The 1 WMV movie that I found on my system that I couldn't play, I still can't play, because it's WM9 :)
[08:39] <MadpilotPPC> fantasai, try just "java" in a terminal - that should get you a help message, at least
[08:39] <fantasai> command not found
[08:39] <iiiears___> fantasi - the linux directory tree is a maze isn't it. slocate and find commands are lifesavers   run updatedb to give you a fresh look at the tree
[08:40] <fantasai> linux directory tree isn't as much of a maze when binary executables put themselves where they belong
[08:40] <iiiears___> lol - okay, too true.
[08:42] <BlankB> fantasai: did you install from a .deb file?
[08:42] <fantasai> BlankB, I followed the instructions on http://therning.org/magnus/archives/63
[08:43] <fantasai> It seemed to work
[08:43] <fantasai> but slocate isn't turning up anything
[08:44] <bob2> slocate won't work until tommorow
[08:44] <Hobbsee> fantasai: seen this?  http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[08:44] <barosl> does anyone know how to restore files on ext3 filesystem? i want to restore some python source codes....
[08:45] <BlankB> I think that only built packages for install java. I dont see anytheing there that installs them. Did it create some files?
[08:45] <jay-ar> how can i check my kernel version?
[08:45] <jab> has anyone here installed eclipse on breezy?
[08:45] <bob2> barosl: you can't, really
[08:45] <BlankB> jay-ar: uname -a
[08:45] <iru> jay: uname -a ?
[08:45] <jay-ar> ok tnx
[08:45] <bob2> barosl: and please change your /quit message to not be so long and full of unicode
[08:45] <bimberi> fantasai: The instructions on that page will create a DEB file.  Did you install it using dpkg?
[08:45] <barosl> bob2, oh; i see...
[08:46] <epiloc> how do i delete a symbolic link?
[08:46] <bob2> epiloc: rm linkname
[08:46] <epiloc> how would i reverse this  sudo ln -s /media/BLAK* /media/ipod
[08:46] <epiloc> rm /media/ipod ?
[08:46] <scribbles> so I just installed Azureus, tried to download something, and now I"m getting Directory Creation Failed, how do I set it so Azureus can create the directories it needs to?
[08:47] <poningru> scribbles: I think you have to run it under sudo the first time
[08:47] <qsrv> hi. I've found a small error in ubuntu 5.10 acpi sleep script
[08:47] <bob2> no
[08:47] <fantasai> bimberi, I only see some .deb files, no instructions...
[08:47] <BlankB> scribbles: you just need to run it somewhere where the user has access to.
[08:47] <qsrv> where should I report it?
[08:47] <bob2> you never run it under sudo
[08:47] <bob2> qsrv: do you have a radeon?
[08:48] <BlankB> fantasai: dpkg -i packagename.deb
[08:48] <poningru> scribbles: guess not
[08:48] <scribbles> all I did was extract the archive to my home dir then ./azureus, opened a torrent and then I got a directory creation error
[08:48] <bob2> and the error was...
[08:49] <scribbles> its within Azureus
[08:49] <scribbles> Error: Directory Creation Failed...
[08:49] <p0windah> scribbles: did you install as root ? then run as non-root ?
[08:49] <bimberi> fantasai: whereever you ran the "fakeroot make-jpkg...." command there should be a deb file (sun<blah>.deb)
[08:49] <scribbles> no I thinK i installed as non-root :(
[08:49] <qsrv> bob2 : yeah
[08:49] <p0windah> scribbles: so you didnt use sudo ?
[08:49] <scribbles> no
[08:49] <bob2> qsrv: fixed already, should be o narchive.u.c in the next 15 minutes
[08:50] <qsrv> ;] 
[08:50] <qsrv> heh
[08:50] <scribbles> am I supposed to uninstall it then ./azureus as sudo
[08:50] <qsrv> so much for my 15 mins of fame and glory ;] 
[08:50] <bob2> scribbles: no
[08:50] <p0windah> scribbles: no
[08:50] <bimberi> qsrv: now that's customer service! :P
[08:50] <fantasai> bimberi, ah, ok
[08:50] <BlankB> qsrv: there is a option in the config for where to save torrents to make sure that directory is writeable by your user.
[08:50] <jab> eclipse anybody?
[08:50] <BlankB> oops...qsrv: = scribbles:
[08:50] <fantasai> bimberi, thanks!
[08:51] <bimberi> fantasai: yw :)
[08:51] <qsrv> ;] 
[08:51] <p0windah> scribbles: when azureus is loaded go into the settings of the program and double check the directories where its trying to save stuff by default
[08:51] <jay-ar> how can i get this fglrx-driver
[08:51] <scribbles> Save Directory: /home/stephen/.Azureus/torrents
[08:52] <scribbles> thats a writable directory for me being logged in as stephen right?
[08:52] <qsrv> one more thing are there any apps that manage network connections(wired and wireless) for laptops? Something like IBM's access connections?
[08:52] <BlankB> scribbles: cd /home/stephen/.Azureus/torrents; touch test.txt
[08:52] <poningru> qsrv: network manager
[08:52] <qsrv> I was looking for something more automatic.
[08:52] <bimberi> jay-ar: package xorg-driver-fglrx looks good
[08:53] <scribbles> worked fine BlankB
[08:53] <qsrv> Something that could detect the wireless network
[08:53] <jay-ar> @bimberi is that installed in ubuntu by default?
[08:53] <BlankB> scribbles: Then I cant imagine why its complaining.
[08:53] <bimberi> jay-ar: no
[08:53] <jay-ar> how do i get that?
[08:53] <bimberi> ubotu tell jay-ar about ati
[08:54] <qsrv> Or maybe if I could get for example wpa_supplicant to run when I bring the wireless interface up, that would suit me. I would then just bring the interface I need when I need it
[08:54] <bob2> qsrv: that's what network manager does...
[08:54] <bob2> qsrv: running programs when interfaces come up is trivial, /etc/network/interfaces, ip-up.d
[08:54] <qsrv> oh
[08:55] <qsrv> I'll look into that
[08:55] <xukun> what is the release date for breezy?
[08:55] <bimberi> xukun: Octover 13
[08:55] <qsrv> as for network manager: I need wpa, and, as far as I see, it's not supported yet
[08:55] <bimberi> ber even :P
[08:55] <qsrv> or is it?
[08:55] <bob2> bah wpa
[08:56] <mathieudz> bimberi: are you spanish? :) (that typo)
[08:56] <poningru> !tell qsrv about networkmanager
[08:56] <mathieudz> is there a gnome wrapper for 'ssh-add' ?
[08:56] <bimberi> mathieudz: hehe, no, far from it :)
[08:56] <poningru> qsrv: wpa support is not that good
[08:56] <poningru> almost anywhere
[08:56] <xukun> bimberi, thanks
[08:56] <bimberi> xukun: yw :)
[08:57] <qsrv> well, I wouldn't need wpa if it wasn't for my faculty's admin. And he said wpa_supplicant was probably the only choice I had
[08:57] <poningru> qsrv: yeah understandable
[08:57] <poningru> wpa > Wep
[08:58] <johnnybezak> hey guys i just did a apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade and I noticed that there were a whole bunch of Xorg packages. I assume this is the new modular X am I right?
[08:58] <qsrv> right, thanks guys, I'll have a go at getting wpa_supplicant to work
[08:58] <p0windah> johnnybezak: yah
[08:58] <locomorto> johnnybezak: are you on hoary?
[08:58] <locomorto> if you are then its probally not
[08:58] <p0windah> johnnybezak: graphic drivers and whatnot
[08:59] <jay-ar> how can i get https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:59] <locomorto> if your on breezy you already have it
[08:59] <jay-ar> how can i get https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:59] <jay-ar> wroing message
[08:59] <jay-ar> how can i get xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:00] <bimberi> jay-ar: "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" doesn't work?
[09:00] <jay-ar> nope
[09:01] <bimberi> jay-ar: what's the error?
[09:01] <jay-ar> it saysE: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:01] <p0windah> jay-ar: its in restricted
[09:01] <BlankB> scribbles: you still there?
[09:01] <bimberi> jay-ar: can you paste your sources.list to a pastebin (see /topic)?
[09:02] <jay-ar> wait
[09:03] <p0windah> oh christ, I have kylie minogue; locomotion stuck in my head
[09:03] <p0windah> what the hell was I thinking when I started whistling
[09:04] <iiiears___> lol
[09:04] <dreamwave> wild.  first time i ever had to recover a nick.
[09:05] <dreamwave> now.  on to better things.  like... how do i add a couple of options to my nvidia module when it is loaded?
[09:05] <crimsun> dreamwave: add them to /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia
[09:05] <crimsun> "options nvidia something=value"
[09:06] <crimsun> (without the double quotations)
[09:06] <dreamwave> ah
[09:07] <iiiears___> rebooting - not quite enough knowledge yet to reclaim "stale" RAM
[09:08] <p0windah> stale ram ?
[09:08] <net36> hi!!!!!!!!!!
[09:08] <watog> hello
[09:08] <FR500> hi
[09:08] <watog> asl?
[09:08] <dreamwave> crimsun, thanks. i'll try that out.
[09:08] <watog> asl?
[09:09] <watog> chacky asl?
[09:09] <crimsun> watog: not here
[09:09] <dreamwave> now, is there a little gui app or command line app to add/remove runlevel actions?  i don't want powernowd loaded at startup..
[09:10] <bimberi> dreamwave: have a look at "bum" (boot up manager) ...
[09:10] <poningru> dreamwave: I think its called bum or something
[09:10] <bimberi> ubotu tell dreamwave about bum
[09:10] <poningru> what he said
[09:11] <p0windah> homoerotic
[09:11] <dreamwave> hahah.  thanks all
[09:12] <p0windah> is the app (*um) any good btw ?
[09:12] <crimsun> some people really like it
[09:12] <trace> Hello peeps
[09:13] <p0windah> what does "peeps" mean anyway ?
[09:13] <trace> Does anyone here use Anjuta?
[09:13] <trace> "People"
[09:13] <CaiN_SA> peeps = people
[09:14] <p0windah> I should have been clearer, _why_ does it represent "people" ?
[09:14] <trace> why is hi short for hello?
[09:15] <MadpilotPPC> p0windah, because it's harder to misspell? ;)
[09:15] <HrdwrBob> why do you have a zero in your nick?
[09:15] <p0windah> the mindless questions as answers..
[09:15] <AngryParsley> so, I see rhythmbox is installed
[09:15] <trace> lol, why is water wet?
[09:15] <AngryParsley> I set everything up, but I can't seem to transfer songs to my ipod
[09:15] <AngryParsley> I can play songs on my ipod, but not add new ones
[09:16] <iiiears___> why is the sky blue? how high is up?
[09:16] <trace> lol
[09:16] <p0windah> I'm guessing you guys all live/work in some labour camp or something
[09:16] <no-one> how can i install gstreamer-plugins-mp3**.rmp?
[09:17] <p0windah> can I eat please sir ?
[09:17] <trace> does rhythmbox searh for radio streams auto?
[09:17] <AngryParsley> trace: no, you just add URLs
[09:17] <iiiears___> no-one - gstreamer-mad.o8????
[09:17] <crimsun> no-one: gstreamer0.8-mad?
[09:18] <no-one> no
[09:18] <AngryParsley> so is there any way I can transfer songs to my ipod in linux?
[09:18] <bimberi> AngryParsley: have a look at gtkpod
[09:18] <iiiears___> AngryParsley, - gtkpod?
[09:18] <trace> yeah I installed streamtuner
[09:18] <AngryParsley> gtkpod, ok
[09:19] <AngryParsley> trace: and that could throw songs on your ipodL
[09:19] <AngryParsley> *?
[09:19] <trace> Anyone have any Anjuta exp?
[09:19] <no-one> so how?
[09:19] <trace> Nope
[09:19] <trace> Didn't work 4 me..
[09:19] <iiiears___> add DRM - and things get very complex - doable still but very difficult.
[09:19] <mshade> what's the 'ubuntu way' to add NFS shares to the desktop?
[09:19] <AngryParsley> oh
[09:19] <crimsun> no-one: your question doesn't make sense
[09:19] <no-one> i want play mp3
[09:19] <crimsun> no-one: then install gstreamer0.8-mad from universe
[09:20] <MadpilotPPC> !tell no-one about mp3
[09:20] <trace> use xmms
[09:21] <Navatiu> i stay away from DRM all the way.
[09:21] <iiiears___> no-one - ffmpeg, mpg123, gstreamer-mad, w32Codecs, +others, can all do decoding
[09:21] <trace> couldn't get rythmbox to play mp3s
[09:21] <crimsun> trace: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad first?
[09:21] <MadpilotPPC> trace, mine does, honest...
[09:21] <trace> cool...
[09:22] <AngryParsley> wow, gtkpod just locked up
[09:22] <AngryParsley> awesome
[09:22] <trace> It's my fault
[09:22] <trace> I like xmms...
[09:22] <AngryParsley> wait, wtf? it's hashing a bunch of tracks?
[09:22] <AngryParsley> it can't read the nice database on the ipod?
[09:23] <trace> Has anyone got terminus to work on ubuntu?
[09:25] <tommi^> Hi. I'm about to purchase a motherboard and I'm having hard time figuring out if the nv gigabyte ethernet on it will work. Help? tia
[09:25] <trace> I got beagle to work!!!
[09:25] <topyli> beagle rocks doesn't it
[09:25] <trace> yup
[09:26] <tommi^> trace, congratulations! You lucky one..
[09:26] <trace> lol
[09:26] <Navatiu> nice
[09:26] <iiiears___> trace you are a better man than i ghunga-din. - it is a trial. - though preconfigured on the next release. Breezy Badger right?
[09:26] <trace> I think it is
[09:27] <AngryParsley> ugh, gtkpod takes like 5 minutes to show my songs when I click on my ipod
[09:27] <locomorto> AngryParsley: blame Apple
[09:27] <trace> has anyone got a webcam to work?
[09:27] <locomorto> its their stupid DRM and all round crap they hide
[09:27] <mshade> how to edit a file as superuser?
[09:27] <mshade> trace: i've got a logitech quickcam im which works well
[09:27] <iiiears___> AngryParsley, - this has nothing to do with patented encodong alogrthms does it?
[09:28] <AngryParsley> iiiears___: what? why should it?
[09:28] <AngryParsley> all my songs are mp3s
[09:28] <trace> cool
[09:28] <locomorto> AngryParsley: you think
[09:28] <topyli> iiiears___: beagle in breezy is still in universe, not in the default set of packages
[09:28] <AngryParsley> locomorto: well there used to be some ogg vorbis, but then I got an ipod
[09:28] <locomorto> AngryParsley: actually mp3 ARE patentend
[09:28] <trace> I'm going to try my webcam next...
[09:28] <AngryParsley> locomorto: I don't care
[09:28] <crimsun> AngryParsley: submit a bug for gtkpod to make it use whatever jhymn's backend is
[09:29] <locomorto> AngryParsley: you should
[09:29] <AngryParsley> I just want to throw 10 mp3s on my ipod
[09:29] <AngryParsley> locomorto: no, I just want to listen to music
[09:29] <locomorto> And the patents are holding you back
[09:29] <topyli> heh
[09:29] <locomorto> without them you could play mp3s by default
[09:29] <iiiears___> topyli - erm - yikes Beagle is worth the effort. - hopiing it would be included...
[09:29] <AngryParsley> no, this buggy software is holding me back
[09:29] <locomorto> You would be easily able to sync with your ipod
[09:29] <AngryParsley> locomorto: I can play all the songs on my ipod just fine
[09:29] <AngryParsley> I'm having trouble transferring new songs to it
[09:29] <trace> I'm running mandrake and rh on to other boxes..but I like ubuntu the best...
[09:30] <crimsun> AngryParsley: what application?
[09:30] <AngryParsley> I don't care about patents, copyright, trademarks, etc
[09:30] <trace> *two
[09:30] <dreamwave> hmmm. click on an ogg file in firefox is bringing up an embedded ogg player that plays a few seconds and then promptly crashes firefox.  what's got itself embedded into firefox?  how do i find out?
[09:30] <locomorto> Today maybe, but tommorow will that HD-DVD/BluRay you bought play on you computer?
[09:30] <Myrtti> I have a bunch of wma-files I want to convert to mp3's. I have the script to do it, but it requires mplayer that wont install.
[09:30] <AngryParsley> hell, my other computer runs a pirated copy of XP
[09:30] <AngryParsley> crimsun: gtkpod
[09:30] <crimsun> AngryParsley: you should submit a bug on that application instead of yelling here, since we can't really help that
[09:30] <bob2> awesome but off-topic
[09:30] <bob2> if you have a problem with something, please file a bug
[09:30] <AngryParsley> crimsun: it looks like the software hasn't been updated in over a year
[09:31] <locomorto> It could be because they didn't knwo of any issues
[09:31] <locomorto> Filing bug reports may also cause someone else to come in and fix it for you
[09:31] <jsgotangco> AngryParsley, looks like an upstream issue that ubuntu can't be able to fix
[09:31] <locomorto> releasing a updated version for the benifit of everbody
[09:31] <locomorto> everybody*
[09:32] <iiiears___> AngryParsley - neither does anyone else. 'cept maybe a handful of large grey flannel wearing corporate types.   - just wait 'til ya see  what they have in store for us with the new blu-ray DVD's - (evil laugh)
[09:32] <AngryParsley> ok, so this buggy gtkpod program is in the repository, but not JRE1.5?
[09:32] <AngryParsley> :(
[09:33] <crimsun> we can't distribute Sun's or IBM's
[09:33] <MadpilotPPC> AngryParsley, the buggy app is Free, jre ain't...
[09:33] <crimsun> you can go download it yourself and create a deb if you want
[09:33] <floppyears> hi
[09:33] <floppyears> could somebody tell me what is "fair dice" ?
[09:33] <jsgotangco> or activate multiverse and download blacbox java
[09:33] <AngryParsley> crimsun: yeah, I did that, and it took me forever
[09:33] <crimsun> AngryParsley: using java-package?
[09:34] <AngryParsley> I just want things to work, not have to mess with alien or anything
[09:34] <AngryParsley> crimsun: yeah, I think so
[09:34] <AngryParsley> then I had to uninstall gij and the old java vm
[09:35] <AngryParsley> and then I could start working on my CS project
[09:35] <crimsun> eh, all you needed to do was prepend it to your $PATH
[09:35] <crimsun> no reason to remove the gjc stuff
[09:35] <bob2> wtf
[09:35] <bob2> to get java working simply:
[09:35] <AngryParsley> crimsun: see? I don't want to mess with environment variables, I want to install java
[09:36] <trace> When Anjuta goes thur setting up a project I get a error "configure: error: Package requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 gtk+-2.0) were not met. Any ideas how to fix this?
[09:36] <bob2> download tarball. install. all done.
[09:36] <AngryParsley> bob2: I tried that, it didn't work
[09:36] <bob2> AngryParsley: where "didn't work" = ?
[09:37] <AngryParsley> it threw jre in my home directory gave me weird errors when I tried to compile anything that used interfaces
[09:37] <bob2> that's so unspecific as to be useless
[09:37] <bob2> it will of course put it in your homedir, tho
[09:38] <AngryParsley> why can't it put it in /usr/bin like everything else?
[09:38] <locomorto> Hmm
[09:38] <quicks_> guys, when breezy the stable version comes out, how can i upgrade my hoary version to it?
[09:39] <locomorto> I just updated (breezy) and my show desktop panel icon and the trash icon have dissapered
[09:39] <Hobbsee> quicks: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[09:39] <JDigital> Change synaptic repositories to "breezy" and upgrade
[09:39] <locomorto> Will a reboot fix it?
[09:39] <JDigital> or read the wiki
[09:39] <quicks_> hobbsee: ok, i will take a look at it
[09:39] <crimsun> argh.
[09:40] <AngryParsley> oh yeah, when I update packages do the outdated versions stay on my system, and if so, how can I remove them?
[09:40] <quicks_> locomorto : thanks! :)
[09:40] <locomorto> AngryParesly: sort of
[09:40] <locomorto> Whenever you install something with apt-get the .deb files stay on your system
[09:40] <locomorto> to remove them do
[09:40] <locomorto> sudo apt-cache clean (to remove all of them)
[09:41] <AngryParsley> what if I use synaptic? (I hate CLIs for things like package management)
[09:41] <locomorto> or sudo apt-cache auto-clean (to remove the outdated ones)
[09:41] <AngryParsley> oh, just a one-liner
[09:41] <crimsun> Synaptic automatically manages the package cache
[09:41] <AngryParsley> crimsun: so it gets rid of outdated packages?
[09:41] <locomorto> crimsun: i dont think so
[09:42] <locomorto> AngryParsely: type this in the terminal (locate .deb)
[09:42] <locomorto> Are there lots of results?
[09:42] <AngryParsley> hold on
[09:42] <JDigital> "sudo apt-cache clean" is an easy command to type
[09:42] <AngryParsley> my computer is being choppy from gtkpod
[09:43] <JDigital> er
[09:43] <JDigital> apt-get clean
[09:43] <AngryParsley> locomorto: 40
[09:43] <AngryParsley> lines of results
[09:43] <AngryParsley> they all have "debug" in their names, so they're not packages
[09:43] <JDigital> Who are all these banned people
[09:43] <locomorto> Hmm, is this a new system?
[09:44] <AngryParsley> about a week old
[09:44] <crimsun> damned bots.
[09:44] <locomorto> JDigital: people you dont want to know
[09:44] <AngryParsley> I've updated like 100 packages
[09:44] <AngryParsley> in fact 166 updates are waiting for me
[09:44] <locomorto> well it might be doing a apt-cache auto-clean
[09:44] <locomorto> but if you want to get rid of all of them you can
[09:44] <locomorto> I'll see if you can do it in synaptic
[09:44] <AngryParsley> nah, I have 70 gigs of free space on this drive
[09:45] <Navatiu> heh, i have 20gb on my harddrive. heh heh
[09:45] <Navatiu> my good ol harddrive
[09:45] <locomorto> aha
[09:45] <locomorto> open Synaptic -> Settings -> Files
[09:45] <locomorto> And you can change the options there
[09:45] <AngryParsley> oh hell yeah, I got gtkpod to finally copy the songs
[09:45] <AngryParsley> locomorto: thanks
[09:46] <locomorto> Its basically doing a apt-cache clean
[09:46] <Navatiu> good job
[09:46] <locomorto> (the old versions are removed from the repo)
[09:46] <locomorto> auto-clean*
[09:46] <AngryParsley> well, it's almost 4AM here, I should try going to bed
[09:46] <locomorto> I have 1616 packages installed
[09:46] <AngryParsley> thanks for your help
[09:46] <locomorto> sleep well
[09:47] <locomorto> and no problem
[09:47] <AngryParsley> sorry if I came off kind of harsh, but I was getting frustrated with gtkpod, it was making my system respond like a windows box
[09:47] <AngryParsley> nn
[09:47] <locomorto> bai bai
[09:48] <AngryParsley> wtf?
[09:48] <locomorto> eh?
[09:48] <AngryParsley> oh great, gtkpod DELETED all of my songs on my ipod
[09:48] <AngryParsley> it said it transferred them, and now I have an empty ipod
[09:48] <AngryParsley> eh, fuck it, I'm going to bed
[09:48] <bob2> AngryParsley: please do file a bug
[09:48] <bob2> ranting on IRC is not helpful
[09:48] <locomorto|away> Actually there probably there
[09:49] <locomorto|away> just not in the database
[09:49] <vovka_lt> hi all! has anyone installed 5.10 breezy PR?
[09:49] <locomorto|away> so hopefully you didn't lose them all
[09:49] <AngryParsley> locomorto|away: I have 18.5 gigs of free space on my ipod
[09:49] <dooglus> I'm having problems with movie subtitles.  mplayer won't show czech characters, and totem-xine will, but only in a small font.  can someone help with either problem please?
[09:49] <locomorto|away> vovka_lt: yes
[09:49] <iiiears___> ouch!
[09:49] <AngryParsley> and it's a 20 gig ipod (so 18.5 actualy size)
[09:49] <locomorto|away> vovka_lt: its very stable
[09:49] <AngryParsley> *actual
[09:49] <vovka_lt> locomorto|away, could u send me you /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:50] <locomorto|away> eh sure: if you want one with aussie mirrors
[09:50] <vovka_lt> me is a gentoo user, but now trying out this wonder at home :)
[09:50] <vovka_lt> ok. it fits me
[09:50] <vovka_lt> me is from lt
[09:50] <vovka_lt> lithuania
[09:50] <bob2> vovka_lt: you already have a valid sources.list
[09:50] <vovka_lt> yep, but me is on 5.04 hoary
[09:51] <vovka_lt> i want a freesh install
[09:51] <bob2> which is fine
[09:51] <locomorto|away> vovka_lt: just change everything from hoary to breezy
[09:51] <locomorto|away> so if it says hoary
[09:51] <locomorto|away> make it breezy
[09:51] <locomorto|away> then apt-get updat
[09:51] <bob2> vovka_lt: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[09:51] <locomorto|away> then apt-get update*
[09:51] <locomorto|away> and check that out as well
[09:51] <qsrv> strange thing: I get no sound from totem-xine under gnome
[09:51] <qsrv> even though gnome's sound events play ok
[09:51] <qsrv> what am I missing?
[09:52] <locomorto|away> Set the output to esd
[09:52] <bob2> configure it to use esd for output
[09:52] <bob2> or pkill esd
[09:52] <vovka_lt> locomorto|away, if someone has already a fresh install of 5.10 and needs a sources.list...
[09:52] <locomorto|away> ?
[09:52] <vovka_lt> so i am giving him mine w/hoary changed to breezy?
[09:53] <vovka_lt> yesterday it was not working
[09:53] <bob2> vovka_lt: you need to be a lot more specific about what on earth you're doing
[09:53] <bob2> vovka_lt: if you just installed 5.10, then you have a perfectly fine sources.list
[09:53] <vovka_lt> with no software in there!
[09:53] <Navatiu> g a s p.
[09:53] <bob2> what?
[09:53] <drummer87> i can't log into gnome
[09:54] <vovka_lt> al software (through synaptic) is already installed
[09:54] <bob2> vovka_lt: so show us your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood
[09:54] <drummer87> i get some error about not being able to read authority file
[09:54] <vovka_lt> what is #flood ? :))
[09:54] <vovka_lt> totally new to irc ;)
[09:54] <bob2> drummer87: which app did you run with su last time you were in gnome?
[09:54] <bob2> k3b?
[09:54] <MadpilotPPC> drummer87, .ICEauthority?
[09:55] <drummer87> MadpilotPPC, yes that one
[09:55] <bob2> vovka_lt: /j #flood
[09:55] <drummer87> bob2, can't remember.. i ran some firewall apps with sudo and gksudo
[09:55] <qsrv> oh wait, I think this could be an mp3 issue
[09:56] <drummer87> firestarter, guidedog, ..
[09:56] <bob2> drummer87: log in to the terminal, delete it, log back in
[09:56] <bob2> ctrl-alt-f1
[09:56] <locomorto> !tell qsrv about mp3
[09:56] <MadpilotPPC> drummer87, chown user:user /.ICEauthority, done
[09:56] <qsrv> since bmp doesn't seem to play mp3 files at all
[09:56] <bob2> also, if you think you need to run a GUI firewall tool, you probablyu don't need to
[09:56] <locomorto> qsrv read your message from ubotu
[09:56] <MadpilotPPC> good night all. need sleep...
[09:57] <nybble> night MadpilotPPC
[09:57] <drummer87> bob2, i was trying to get some internet routing going (unsuccessfully) and thought using an app would be easier
[09:57] <drummer87> i dunno really how to use iptables
[09:57] <bob2> ah, fair enough
[09:58] <bob2> anyway, do what I or MadpilotPPC said
[09:58] <Navatiu> i recall when i try to get gentoo network to work but it dont detect well.
[09:58] <Navatiu> bah
[09:58] <Navatiu> that was year back when i try gentoo a go. heh
[09:58] <drummer87> done.. i'll log off and back onto my account
[09:58] <locomorto> gentoo == pain
[09:59] <Navatiu> yeah
[09:59] <vovka_lt> bob2, here's my sources.list: http://www.j-a.lt/sources.list
[09:59] <_rb_> hey does anyone know of some decent instructions for swat in samba ?
[09:59] <Navatiu> if you want to embrace pain, gentoo is proabbly thing you want to install with pain in ass.
[09:59] <Navatiu> heh
[09:59] <locomorto> swat?
[09:59] <_rb_> cant get the thing running properly on my server
[09:59] <locomorto> you dont use samba for a game
[09:59] <SlicerDicer-> hey bob2 have you heard of a issue with AMD64 users not being able to load nvidia modules? I cannot seem to get mine working I been trying and trying :/
[09:59] <bob2> it's best to avoid swat entirely
[09:59] <locomorto> Only for things like file and printer sharing
[09:59] <concept10> is libdvdcss avail for breezy any where?
[09:59] <_rb_> (samba web adminstration tool)
[09:59] <ppz> how do i get gcc working in Breezy ?
[09:59] <bob2> vovka_lt: and?
[10:00] <bob2> ppz: install build-essential
[10:00] <bob2> same as on hoary
[10:00] <bob2> and warty and debian
[10:00] <poningru> ppz: build essential
[10:00] <_rb_> what to use instead of swat then ?
[10:00] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: you'd need to give a lot more information
[10:00] <drummer87> thanks.. worked great
[10:00] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, sure thing :)
[10:00] <drummer87> what would've happened to the .ICEauthority file?
[10:00] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: e.g. dmesg output, kernel versions, ubuntu versions, lspci output, modprobe output
[10:00] <hubsi> guten morgn :)
[10:01] <bob2> drummer87: it got owned by root, so your user couldn't touch it when you logged in again
[10:01] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, give me a moment to get all that information for you :)
[10:01] <drummer87> ah..k, thanks
[10:01] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, I am encoding a video at the moment it will be done in 2 mins least thats the ETA
[10:01] <coobra> omg
[10:01] <coobra> i hawe forgot :/
[10:02] <coobra> i want to fixx my locales
[10:02] <ppz> bob2, poningru and how wold i go about doing that ? Synaptic ?
[10:02] <coobra> what was the corect way to do t :/
[10:02] <kemik> coobra:  dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:02] <coobra> kemik: <3
[10:02] <poningru> ppz: yeah dude
[10:02] <poningru> just like warty and hoary
[10:03] <bob2> ppz: however you normally install packages
[10:03] <bob2> synaptic is one option, yes
[10:08] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, lspci, lsmod, dmesg http://rafb.net/paste/results/62gmAw96.html getting kernel versions and the rest
[10:09] <epiloc> how do i remove a link
[10:09] <bob2> epiloc: a symlink? same way you remove a file
[10:10] <epiloc> yes, i did ln -s /media/BLAK* /media/ipod
[10:10] <epiloc> and now everything is messed up
[10:10] <epiloc> so just rm /media/ipod?
[10:10] <bob2> yes
[10:10] <bob2> ls -ld /media/ipod
[10:10] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:10] <bob2> that will show you it's a symlink
[10:10] <simple_gurl> hello
[10:11] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64k8 and restricted modules to match with nvidia-kernel-common 1.0.7667+1 "kinda odd cause it says in dmesg 7174"
[10:11] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, does that help?
[10:11] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:11] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: the module is loaded fine
[10:11] <SlicerDicer-> let me get you xorg log bob2
[10:12] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, be back in a few mins I got to crash xorg by having it load nvidia module then come back to get you the output
[10:13] <ppz> bob2, poningru, got the essentials in but i still cant compile. C compiler cannot create executables.
[10:14] <bob2> ppz: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1
[10:14] <ppz> bob2, ii  libc6          2.3.5-1ubuntu11
[10:15] <bob2> and dpkg -l build-essential | tail -n1
[10:15] <ppz> build-essential 11.1
[10:15] <bob2> that's not what it said
[10:16] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, http://rafb.net/paste/results/mEYQgQ18.html that is my xorg log
[10:16] <bob2> the kernel module loaded fine
[10:16] <ndlovu> hi all. if I want to split big files and then put them back together, would split and cat be the commands to use?
[10:16] <bob2> that's whack
[10:16] <bob2> ndlovu: yes
[10:17] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, errm whats causing it not to work? if the module is loading but failing to initialize?
[10:17] <ndlovu> bob2: thanks
[10:18] <bob2> ndlovu: in a pinch you could even do it without split
[10:18] <bob2> the kernel side is fine, afaict
[10:18] <arkalon> is #ubuntu the ubuntu development channel as well as the help channel?
[10:18] <iiiears___> crimsun  -  Hi, after beginning the system update it halted after downloading all the packages and installiing over half. error message  "Unable to grab mouse malicious client may be controlling your session" - Had you seen this kind of error before?
[10:18] <bob2> arkalon: no
[10:18] <ndlovu> bob2: I was thinking '# split --bytes=650m -d bigfile smallfile'
[10:18] <arkalon> bob2: can you point me in the right direction then?
[10:18] <ndlovu> and '# cat smallfile01 smallfile02 smallfile03 > bigfile'
[10:19] <crimsun> iiiears___: ...no, can't say I have.
[10:19] <bob2> arkalon: #ubuntu-devel, but it is seriously for actual development
[10:19] <bob2> ndlovu: looks good
[10:19] <glyn> what's a good and easy way to get all the video codecs for wmv files etc?
[10:19] <arkalon> bob2: great, thanks
[10:19] <jay-ar> !tell ati
[10:19] <crimsun> iiiears___: you don't happen to have vino running, do you?
[10:19] <bob2> iiiears___: what else do you have running?
[10:19] <bob2> games, vnc, vmware?
[10:19] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, do you have any ideas what would cause my nvidia driver not to work?
[10:20] <psycode> is there an enviroment variable holding the current directory ? (what's its name?)
[10:20] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: sounds like a X bug
[10:20] <bob2> psycode: $PWD
[10:20] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, ok thats what I figured I just got to wait till a version of X comes that is useable?
[10:20] <iiiears___> very unusual. - xchat and glxgears?!?
[10:20] <psycode> bob2, thanks
[10:20] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, is there anyway to downgrade with ubuntu?
[10:21] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: I'd file a bug, personally
[10:21] <iiiears___> some conflict between a hardened linux and the display driver?
[10:21] <bob2> iiiears___: "hardened linux"?
[10:21] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: do you have a previous X server in /var/cache/apt/archives/?
[10:21] <SlicerDicer-> I dont know bob2
[10:21] <iiiears___> okay, i am a newb. took a wild stab in the dark.
[10:21] <iiiears___> lol
[10:21] <bob2> iiiears___: does killing glxgears help?
[10:22] <bob2> iiiears___: I assume you get that while synaptic or something is asking for your password?
[10:22] <SlicerDicer-> I have 4 versions of xorg-common
[10:22] <iiiears___> rebooted and am reinstalling from a ghost image
[10:22] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: if you're using hoary, xserver-xorg is the one yo ucare about
[10:22] <glyn> join #latex
[10:22] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, I am using breezy
[10:22] <jay-ar> how can i check if i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx correctly?
[10:23] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: then I don't know what particular package it would be
[10:23] <bob2> jay-ar: dpkg -l blahblahblah
[10:23] <bob2> jay-ar: if the first two chars are ii, it's installed
[10:23] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, xserver-xorg_6.8.2-61_amd64.deb
[10:23] <SlicerDicer->  would that be it?
[10:23] <bob2> no, that package is basically empty
[10:23] <jay-ar> oh tnx
[10:24] <jay-ar> how can i test it?
[10:24] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:24] <bob2> jay-ar: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:24] <bob2> mostly
[10:24] <locomorto> change ati to fglrx
[10:24] <bob2> simple_gurl: this isn't really a chat channel, sorry
[10:24] <SlicerDicer-> xserver-xorg-core_6.8.2-61_amd64.deb?
[10:24] <locomorto> and then see if x starts with that set
[10:24] <locomorto> !tell jay-ar about ati
[10:24] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hih
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <locomorto> also have a look at those very important pieces of information
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <simple_gurl> h
[10:25] <simple_gurl> ihi
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <goldmund> can someone help me to install skype for ubuntu?
[10:26] <SlicerDicer-> bob2 would it be xserver-xorg-core_6.8.2-61_amd64.deb?
[10:26] <ompaul> goldmund, breezy or hoary?
[10:26] <goldmund> I've downloaded skype.deb form skype's site
[10:26] <goldmund> hoary
[10:26] <ompaul> goldmund, I would not do that if I was you
[10:26] <goldmund> I'm new on linux and I have no clue how to do it
[10:26] <ompaul> goldmund, :)
[10:26] <goldmund> why?
[10:27] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: no
[10:27] <ompaul> goldmund, they *broke* skype in a pretty amazing way
[10:27] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, :/
[10:27] <goldmund> what do you mean by "broke"?
[10:27] <goldmund> I repeat ...I'm new on Ubuntu :) and even Linux :)
[10:28] <ompaul> goldmund, made changes to it, in such a way as it no longer works on ubuntu
[10:28] <Nermal> goldmund: dpkg -i ?
[10:29] <ompaul> goldmund, do you know what software dependancies are?
[10:29] <Chousuke> does skype have broken dependencies?
[10:29] <Chousuke> stupid
[10:29] <goldmund> aha! I undertand ...but than why do they keep a link for their skype ubuntu version on their own site? just in order to full us?!
[10:29] <goldmund> yes I know
[10:29] <Chousuke> it shouldn't have dependencies at all :/
[10:29] <ompaul> Chousuke, :)
[10:30] <Chousuke> when you do closed source stuff for linux, you had better compile everything in statically.
[10:30] <Chousuke> like opera does for some packages.
[10:30] <rafael> buenas
[10:30] <glyn> hola amigo
[10:30] <Chousuke> as a fallback, if a native distro package doesn't exist.
[10:30] <Chousuke> English, please.
[10:30] <rafael> hey como estas
[10:30] <ompaul> !es
[10:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:31] <rafael> sera que me pueden recomendar un buen reproductor de musica
[10:31] <p0windah> rafael: bork bork bork
[10:31] <ompaul> goldmund, this ain't getting you going - there is a tar.gz package on the site it may install better
[10:31] <glyn> me gusta Gnutella
[10:31] <bob2> goldmund: get the static .tar.bz2 fro their website
[10:32] <ompaul> goldmund, follow the instructions withit
[10:32] <Chousuke> glyn: rafael: /join #ubuntu-es
[10:32] <ndlovu> goldmund, I'm not sure about the broken skype, but there are installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto. Sounds like it might not help you much though :(
[10:32] <poningru> ubotu: tell glyn about es
[10:32] <ompaul> !tell rafael about es
[10:32] <rafael> please ok in ingles people
[10:32] <rafael> jejejje
[10:32] <glyn> lol
[10:32] <rafael> please a good music player?
[10:33] <Shin_Gouki> hi! i got a "apt-get remove" question! i installed mozilla and afterwards mozilla firefox, now i wanted to remove mozilla, so i typed: "apt-get remove mozilla" but i can still start the programm , where is my mistake?
[10:33] <Skid> xmms
[10:33] <poningru> rafael: amarok
[10:33] <glyn> I just use Totem
[10:33] <GNULinuxer> rafael: totem
[10:33] <poningru> rofl
[10:33] <locomorto> I use totem-xine
[10:33] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: presumably you want mozilla-browser
[10:33] <Skid> xmms is kind of like winamp
[10:33] <Skid> or beep
[10:33] <locomorto> Skid: beep-media-player is much nicer
[10:33] <Chousuke> Skid: but beep sucks, and xmms is olde.
[10:33] <locomorto> lol
[10:33] <rafael> ok thank you very much i am goin to look
[10:33] <Skid> :)
[10:33] <ompaul> goldmund, use the tar.bz2 on their site :) - be aware that the .deb is not going to make your life easy, until they actually make a real version for Ubuntu
[10:33] <Skid> beep is cool
[10:33] <Chousuke> beep sucks
[10:33] <PoStAl> how do you get totem to play proprietary codecs/
[10:33] <Chousuke> it's unstable and buggy.
[10:34] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, i want mozilla firefox and remove the rest
[10:34] <goldmund> aha
[10:34] <glyn> I want to know that too, Postal
[10:34] <glyn> trying to figure that out
[10:34] <locomorto> PoStAl: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[10:34] <goldmund> thank you gys!!!
[10:34] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 is this possible?
[10:34] <goldmund> I really do appreciate your help
[10:34] <goldmund> thanks
[10:34] <Shin_Gouki> yes this channel rocks :D
[10:34] <goldmund> I'll try to do what you advised me to
[10:34] <Nermal> PoStAl: personally I just install w32codecs and replace totem-gstreamer with totem-xine
[10:34] <locomorto> !tell PoStAl about mp3
[10:35] <PoStAl> whats the point of not including support.
[10:35] <Nermal> support ?
[10:35] <locomorto> Nermal: is w32codecs still in extras?
[10:35] <Nermal> you get what you pay for
[10:35] <ompaul> goldmund, the info about the install of the bz2 is not too bad the .deb is rubbish
[10:35] <PoStAl> im talking about the codec, by default.
[10:35] <thoreauputic> PoStAl: licensing issues
[10:35] <Nermal> PoStAl: licencing
[10:35] <locomorto> legal issues
[10:35] <Nermal> s/c/s
[10:35] <goldmund> k! thanks! I gotta split now! See you later!
[10:35] <PoStAl> bloody licencing.
[10:36] <Nermal> PoStAl: bloody proprietary formats eh ?
[10:36] <rafael> amarok have a lot of version
[10:36] <Shin_Gouki> hi! i got a "apt-get remove" question! i installed mozilla and afterwards mozilla firefox, now i wanted to remove mozilla, so i typed: "apt-get remove mozilla" but i can still start the programm , where is my mistake?
[10:36] <Navatiu> i hear from someone that you can get w32codecs from apt-get recently. dont follow my direction cuz i might be wrong. :)
[10:36] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: mozilla-browser
[10:36] <nightswim> mozilla-browser
[10:37] <thoreauputic> ompaul: when it starts to freeze down there you'll know Vista is about to be released ;-)
[10:37] <johnnybezak> anyone know of a ubuntu package for the ms true type core fonts?
[10:37] <Shin_Gouki> crimsum, so i need to type : ..remove mozilla-browser?
[10:37] <crimsun> johnnybezak: msttcorefonts in multiverse
[10:37] <Chousuke> hmm
[10:37] <Navatiu> heh thore
[10:37] <Chousuke> the bmp people seem to have advanced
[10:37] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: yes
[10:37] <Chousuke> bmp is no longer based on XMMS :)
[10:37] <Chousuke> that's good. hope it doesn't suck :P
[10:37] <crimsun> well, XMMS has a v2 in the works, too
[10:37] <Navatiu> 'ubuntu professional vista' okay i am kidding. it just i happen to read paper from slashdot. heh
[10:38] <ubuntu> How do I mount an NTFS partition with write permission?
[10:38] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun i thank u!
[10:38] <ubuntu> I need to replace a boot.ini
[10:38] <Hobbsee> snorks: why not boot into safe mode and edit it there?
[10:38] <snorks> Hobbsee: doesn't work
[10:38] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: if you value your data you won't try to write from linux on ntfs
[10:38] <Chousuke> crimsun: yeah, isn't it that weird backend-frontend approach?
[10:38] <snorks> Hobbsee: corrupt boot.ini = no boot
[10:39] <crimsun> Chousuke: I think it makes sense
[10:39] <dooglus> Navatiu: did you see the video here? http://dc5video.debian.net/ogg_theora/2005-07-14/02b-Ubuntu_Talk-Mark_Shuttleworth.ogg - much the same points are covered
[10:39] <vengeful> anyways whats the ntfs partition called?
[10:39] <snorks> thoreauputic: I have to. The C partition will be lost later today if this doesn't work anyway
[10:39] <snorks> vengeful: sda1
[10:39] <Chousuke> crimsun: yeah, it does.
[10:39] <vengeful> ok you made the dir where you want to view it?
[10:40] <snorks> vengeful: yes /mnt/ntfs
[10:40] <vbgunz_> dooglus: what would you say is the best windows player to play ogg files?
[10:40] <thoreauputic> snorks: well, google captive ntfs
[10:40] <Chousuke> backends and frontends should be separated.
[10:40] <dooglus> vbgunz_: I don't know.  I used mplayer for it
[10:40] <dooglus> vbgunz_: I usually use mplayer for everything
[10:40] <andrew> Does anyone have a link to a current sources.list --- I tried copying and pasting the one from ubuntuguide but some of the sources don't exist
[10:40] <thoreauputic> !sources
[10:40] <ubotu> somebody said sources was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[10:40] <vbgunz_> I know Ubuntu can play it but currently I am in Windows and would like to see it
[10:41] <p0windah> andrew: stick to the official archive.ubuntu.com ones
[10:41] <andrew> thx
[10:41] <andrew> all
[10:41] <dooglus> vbgunz_: sorry, my brain must have filtered out the word 'windows' in your question.
[10:41] <vengeful> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs
[10:41] <vengeful> if memory serves
[10:41] <dooglus> vbgunz_: maybe it does that when it's near the word 'best'
[10:41] <vbgunz_> dooglus: it's cool, I did a google and think I found something
[10:41] <snorks> vengeful: ive tried that one
[10:41] <Shin_Gouki> hi which command switch shows my free diskspace??
[10:41] <p0windah> df
[10:41] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[10:41] <Chousuke> df -h is better
[10:41] <vbgunz_> dooglus:P
[10:41] <vengeful> and that didnt mount it?
[10:42] <Chousuke> it shows them with GB and MB :P
[10:42] <snorks> vengeful: it mounted it, but not with write permissions
[10:42] <PoStAl> is it alright if I ask general linux questions in here?
[10:42] <vengeful> cant you just chmod it?
[10:42] <vengeful> ive never had need to edit windows from within linux before heh
[10:42] <snorks> vengeful: what's the command?
[10:42] <snorks> vengeful: me neither, this is for a friend
[10:43] <thoreauputic> PoStAl: probably - depends how general
[10:43] <Shin_Gouki> postal hurry and go ahead
[10:43] <refuze2looze> how do i unmount a cdrom that's in use and i don't know what's using it?
[10:43] <vbgunz_> anyone has any links to the best posix reference guide ever?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom
[10:44] <refuze2looze> thoreauputic, ok but now how do i eject it?
[10:44] <rafael> ok look i new in linux my real question is the music the i have on my winamp of windows i want to in the ubuntu player whit amarok i can do that????
[10:44] <glyn> totem xine freezes whenever I run it, what's wrong?
[10:44] <dooglus> a couple of times in the video, Mr. Shuttleworth mentions something called "zorg".  Took me a while to figure out what he meant...
[10:44] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: eject /dev/cdrom
[10:44] <PoStAl> quick thing, i irc alot, trying to replace alot of my old mirc script functions, i just want to do something simple like auto identify, prompt me with a password dialog on connect. I'm using X-Chat and would prefer to do this so that the password isnt displayed on screen.
[10:44] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: use sudo if that doesn't work
[10:44] <dooglus> "zorg" is how you pronounce "x.org"?
[10:45] <Navatiu> heh
[10:45] <Chousuke> I pronounce it xorg :P
[10:45] <vbgunz_> PoStAl X-Chat has a replace function in one of its menus... look for it and you'll find it
[10:45] <dooglus> the "." is silent?
[10:45] <Chousuke> or rather ksorg
[10:45] <Chousuke> :P
[10:45] <refuze2looze> thoreauputic, it gets stuck
[10:45] <dooglus> how do you pronounce "openoffice.org"?
[10:45] <rafael> amarok can do that?
[10:45] <glyn> anyone know what's wrong with my totem player?
[10:46] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: define "stuck"
[10:46] <Chousuke> dooglus: just as it's written, without the org part
[10:46] <glyn> it freezes whenever I try to run it
[10:46] <Chousuke> and using finnish pronunciation.
[10:46] <rafael> :p
[10:46] <refuze2looze> thoreauputic, sudo eject /dev/hdd and then nothing happens, acts like it's still runing the command
[10:46] <Bateau_> hey! iv got this little problem.... when i upload a file to ubuntu (my laptop) it gets chmoded to 640 :x when i upload files to the webdir, the file cant be read so i have to chmod manualy every file to 755. how can i change so that i dont have to chmod manualy
[10:47] <Chousuke> Finnish pronunciation is so damn hard to explain to English speakers even though it's bazillion times simpler :P
[10:47] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: it umounted successfully?
[10:47] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: any error messages?
[10:47] <refuze2looze> thoreauputic, yes it unmounted
[10:47] <p0windah> Chousuke: same with chinese
[10:48] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: and you are sure it is /dev/hdd ?
[10:48] <Chousuke> p0windah: except chinese pronunciation is way more difficult than finnish
[10:48] <osfameron> Hi, anyone know how I can find the "password for default keyring to unlock" which nautilus is asking me for?
[10:48] <andrew> Is amarok the best music player
[10:48] <Chousuke> Finnish doesn't even have much intonation
[10:48] <osfameron> My own password is *not* it
[10:48] <Chousuke> only word stress.
[10:48] <p0windah> Chousuke: 9 tones, but simple particle
[10:48] <p0windah> particles, rather
[10:48] <Shin_Gouki> hi, is there a way to install unicode on ubuntu?
[10:48] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: ctrl+c and try again
[10:48] <rafael> ok i jus goin to dowload amarok
[10:48] <p0windah> Shin_Gouki: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:49] <vengeful> actually snorks
[10:49] <Chousuke> p0windah: As a general rule you could say Finnish has one sound per letter in the alphabet
[10:49] <vengeful> i dont think this is very safe as ntfs
[10:50] <p0windah> Chousuke: ah ok, strict phonetics ?
[10:50] <Tadej`Certanc> hi
[10:50] <vengeful> i think it would need to be a fat32 to safely write to
[10:50] <rafael> why every time i want to dowload something  the sinaptic program ask me for the ubuntu cd????
[10:50] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: yes, run the command I gave you
[10:50] <Chousuke> it's not always true, but that's what the language officials have tried to achieve in their recommendations about pronunciation
[10:50] <osfameron> rafael: you probably have the CD in your repositories list
[10:50] <p0windah> Chousuke: I imagine that helps improve levels of literacy in your country
[10:51] <osfameron> anyone got any suggestions about this keyring password?
[10:51] <joe__> Oh, I just had a great idea! We should roll all the debs on the depositorys into bz2balls for faster downloading! lol
[10:51] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 mozilla is removed it did work!
[10:51] <Chousuke> p0windah: well, Finnish is easier to read than English, yes.
[10:51] <Chousuke> It wasn't always so though.
[10:51] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, i just dont like it when i need an other command for uninstalling then for install , u know what i mean??
[10:51] <korben78> anyone able to help with configuring xorg to use a 9600xt agp card?
[10:51] <poningru> p0windah: language belongs to the people not to some gov official
[10:52] <rafael> ok  cut you explain that a litlle more
[10:52] <p0windah> Chousuke: you have a national/federal language department ?
[10:52] <Chousuke> poningru: but Finland has an agency that defines "book language"
[10:52] <thoreauputic> guys, #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:52] <Chousuke> :P
[10:52] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, I went crazy deleted all the kernels and then installed the kernel package for AMD64 and it works now :)
[10:52] <Chousuke> ie. the formal language one should use in writing, mostly :/
[10:52] <p0windah> we were exploring unicode issues...
[10:53] <Shin_Gouki> ohoh unicode issues?
[10:53] <thoreauputic> p0windah: haha - still #ubuntu-offtopic I say :)
[10:53] <ubuntu> #ojn
[10:53] <ubuntu> ok
[10:53] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, I figured my computer was broken the worst that could happen is I would have to revive my system with livecd *grin*
[10:53] <ubuntu> okl
[10:53] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: then you shouldn't be using apt-get
[10:53] <ubuntu> jas
[10:53] <Chousuke> Let me say this: Acrigola's first attempts at written Finnish look ridiculous to a modern Finn. D:
[10:53] <ubuntu> no
[10:53] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 , what i should be using then?
[10:53] <ubuntu> Haah
[10:53] <Chousuke> he used w, x, c, b, and all weird letters we don't need.
[10:53] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: aptitude or synaptic
[10:54] <ubuntu> talios
[10:54] <osfameron> ah, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47114 shows someone with the same problem and no answer
[10:54] <osfameron> !keyring
[10:54] <ubotu> osfameron: Are you smoking crack?
[10:54] <rafael> diablossssssssssssssssssss i dont understant
[10:54] <ubuntu> ko
[10:54] <osfameron> gah
[10:54] <vbgunz_> rafael: don't quote me but if you sudo into the /apt/etc/sources.lst file (I belive that's it) you can get it to stop *if* you comment the topmost line asking for your CD
[10:54] <talios> 'lo ubuntu
[10:54] <ubuntu> h5zte
[10:54] <ubuntu> rhzt
[10:54] <bob2> rafael: enough
[10:54] <talios> hmm
[10:54] <osfameron> well, not quite the same problem - I don't remember setting a keyring password
[10:54] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, is this gui? i like command prompt and im using icewm
[10:54] <osfameron> but I don't for the life of me know what it is
[10:55] <talios> anyone here know anything about ubuntu's squeak packages?  I see the inisqueak script mentioned, but nothing seems to be installed
[10:55] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: why don't you have a look?
[10:55] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, where do i have to look?
[10:55] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, my ubuntu is a "server" install
[10:56] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, my ubuntu is a "server" install, with custum gui, 550 MB
[10:56] <Zalbor> Hey, have the backport repositories disappeared?
[10:56] <Navatiu> ubuntu can be used as server now?
[10:56] <dooglus> Navatiu: yes.
[10:56] <Navatiu> i recall when i read the post that it seem not ready.. must be old news. :)
[10:56] <vengeful> shin why o why did you make a server install hehe
[10:56] <Shin_Gouki> i like it it rocks for me :D
[10:56] <glyn> how do I install plugins for movies for totem?
[10:56] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: sudo aptitude
[10:57] <vbgunz_> Shin_Gouki: when you install as server you get no GUI correct?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: type aptitude and you will see it doesn't require GUI
[10:57] <Navatiu> hi osf.
[10:57] <osfameron> yay!
[10:57] <Navatiu> heh
[10:57] <Shin_Gouki> woW thx guys ^ ^
[10:57] <Zalbor> I can't reach them at all
[10:57] <glyn> I get the error video codec "MS WMV 9 (win32)" is not handled
[10:57] <Navatiu> i dont want GUI when it come to server install.
[10:57] <bob2> glyn: just use xine or mplayer
[10:57] <vbgunz_> anyone know of the best POSIX reference guide ever!?
[10:57] <bob2> Navatiu: awesome, lucky that's so simple then
[10:57] <bob2> vbgunz_: SUSv3
[10:57] <vbgunz_> I want opinion
[10:58] <Navatiu> :)
[10:58] <Navatiu> that why i never use MS for server install
[10:58] <Shin_Gouki> i need it because im only with p 233 mhz , 128 mb ram
[10:58] <dooglus> Chousuke: when you use mplayer, do you see special finnish characters in the subtitles ok?
[10:58] <vengeful> o lol
[10:58] <vbgunz_> bob2: SUSv3?
[10:59] <osfameron> aha http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65663&highlight=keyring suggests how to delete the current keyring..
[10:59] <bob2> vbgunz_: yes, it contains basically all of POSIX, and it's freely available (unlike posix)
[10:59] <glyn> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process what is this?
[10:59] <vbgunz_> is it a pdf? im searching google now
[10:59] <p0windah> glyn: you're using apt or synaptic somewhere else
[11:00] <ninotchka> hi
[11:00] <psycode> i've downloaded openoffice 2.0 and its all RPM's, is there a way to install them on ubuntu ?
[11:00] <p0windah> psycode: openoffice.org2 is already in ubuntu...
[11:00] <dooglus> psycode: installing breezy is probably the easiest way
[11:00] <rafael> nobady in the spanish chanel  crapp
[11:00] <bob2> psycode: why bother? openoffice 2 is in ubuntu already.
[11:00] <vbgunz_> I think I fund something
[11:01] <vbgunz_> bob2: is this what you mean? http://www.unix.org/single_unix_specification/
[11:01] <vbgunz_> bob2: version 3?
[11:01] <bob2> vbgunz_: that looks right
[11:01] <Shin_Gouki> vbgunz_ yes correct i had no gui , but <<kemik>> gave me a very nice LOW level guide based upun server install so it worked dman nice!
[11:01] <vbgunz_> bob2: thank you
[11:01] <vbgunz_> Shin_Gouki: thank you!
[11:01] <bob2> vbgunz_: tho, I dunno if it's what you were asking for
[11:02] <vbgunz_>  I am looking for the universal linux cli commands reference... sort of like cp, mv, etc but will a fuller list... something that will explain a bit too would be nice
[11:02] <psycode> p0windah, bob2, thanks i'm downloading :)
[11:02] <rafael> ahhhhhhh i am to tired  i goin to slepp thanks for your help  see you people
[11:02] <bob2> oh
[11:02] <bob2> vbgunz_: that's probably not what you want then
[11:02] <p0windah> psycode: we live to but serve
[11:03] <Shin_Gouki> vbgunz, u l never learn all command , try  most thing on ur own if u get stuk ask here
[11:03] <Shin_Gouki> vbgunz, this place is babylon u may find ANY answer here!
[11:03] <glyn> I installed mplayer 586 and I get the error new_face failed.  maybe the font path is wrong.  Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)
[11:03] <bob2> vbgunz_: perhaps http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/
[11:04] <vbgunz_> bob2: nice
[11:04] <vbgunz_> bob2: very nice
[11:04] <vbgunz_> bob2 I hope this is it
[11:05] <vbgunz_> bob2: thats enough to get me started... I wish I had the PDF to it though... I'll see if I can buy it
[11:05] <bob2> vbgunz_: it's from "linux in a nutshell", from o'reilly.  I've heard it's a great book, but I've never read it
[11:05] <korben78> anyone else running a 9600xt and can help me with the xorb.conf?
[11:05] <HrdwrBob> I learnt perl from perl in a nutshell
[11:05] <BurgerMann> I bolloxed when scaling images using the gimp. I accidently scalled images bigger instead of smaller. Now my laptop runs like it was a Windows machine which haven't been booted for 6 months. Is there anyway to free up the memory?
[11:06] <HrdwrBob> it's a great book, gives you what you need to get it done and doesn't assume you're a retard
[11:06] <HrdwrBob> BurgerMann: quit gimp
[11:06] <bob2> BurgerMann: close gimp
[11:06] <HrdwrBob> BurgerMann: other than that, wait until all the apps are swapped back in
[11:06] <vbgunz_> thats exactly what I've been looking for... If I can learn just three commands a day, just three, by the end of a single year, I'll know more than a thousand Linux commands... that would put me in rank amongst the novice ;)
[11:06] <Shin_Gouki> korben what is ur prob?
[11:06] <Shin_Gouki> korben78 what is ur prob?
[11:06] <bob2> vbgunz_: hehe
[11:06] <vbgunz_> bob2: this is almost exactly what I've been looking for ;)
[11:06] <HrdwrBob> vbgunz_: it's not about knowing commands, there are probably under 100 core commands
[11:06] <Kimahri> i have a question... what is the module for the Crystal ISA PnP audio system?
[11:07] <BurgerMann> oh :S
[11:07] <korben78> Shin_Gouki: i have followed the directions from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=dma but it still comes up as using the Mesa 3d drivers
[11:07] <bob2> hm, I wonder if I could grep my shell history to see how many commands I've used in the past month
[11:07] <bob2> probably well under 100
[11:07] <crimsun> Kimahri: depends. snd-cs4236 is what you probably want.
[11:07] <korben78> and im stupmed
[11:07] <korben78> stumped even
[11:07] <glyn> I installed mplayer 586 and I get the error new_face failed.  maybe the font path is wrong.  Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)
[11:07] <crimsun> Kimahri: if that one doesn't work, try snd-cs4232
[11:08] <vbgunz_> HrdwrBob, I hope I am good... I am a GUI guy but love the standard of the CLI... I just really want to learn it and see how it could make me more effective, I am hoping it will teach me something I've been missing
[11:08] <Shin_Gouki> korben78 what do want ? openGL? ATI drivers runnig?
[11:08] <bob2> glyn: that's fine, ignore it unless you care about subtitles
[11:08] <HrdwrBob> vbgunz_: it's not really hard, just keep playing
[11:08] <Kimahri> crimsun: neither work.
[11:08] <korben78> Shin_Gouki: trying to get the ati 3d support working
[11:09] <glyn> bob2>it won't play a file either
[11:09] <glyn> it just freeezes
[11:09] <korben78> Shin_Gouki: i want it to use the fglrx drivers
[11:09] <crimsun> Kimahri: did you disable pnp in bios?
[11:09] <Shin_Gouki> korben78 i suggest u go to ATI channel, here is more system related stuff
[11:09] <Kimahri> crimsun: it's a laptop, and the sound worked before i got rid of windows
[11:10] <Shin_Gouki> korben78 and im to stupid to help u :/
[11:10] <yanxu> ubuntu contect vpn
[11:10] <korben78> Shin_Gouki: been there, no activity atm.... guess i'll just wait... thanx anyway :)
[11:10] <Shin_Gouki> no then ask here again
[11:11] <Shin_Gouki> with:  trying to get the ati 3d support working, i want it to use the fglrx drivers
[11:11] <Shin_Gouki> korben78 ask again to all they will help u here
[11:11] <korben78> Shin_Gouki: onto it now... thanx :)
[11:12] <crimsun> Kimahri: so what about pnp in bios?
[11:12] <glyn> I just installed mplayer-586 and it won't run
[11:12] <glyn> any advice?
[11:12] <glyn> it just freezes
[11:12] <Kimahri> crimsun: tha ti wouldn't know, because it's still in the same shape i bought it in.  i haven't been in  the bios yet.
[11:12] <crimsun> Kimahri: time to look in bios.
[11:12] <Kimahri> and it takes WAY too long to reboot.
[11:13] <ubuntu> do u know any software other than wine that i can use in my linux
[11:13] <crimsun> Kimahri: well, it's up to you. lspnp -v output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, please.
[11:13] <talios> hey crimsun
[11:13] <crimsun> hi mark
[11:13] <talios> crimsun, do you know anything about ubuntu's squeak packages?
[11:14] <crimsun> talios: nope
[11:14] <talios> they mention an inisqueak script (to create a local workspace and image) but the script doesn't seem to exist (the man page does thou)
[11:14] <ubuntu> hey guys do u have a software where i can install a microsoft package or games
[11:15] <p0windah> ubuntu: linux isnt the best platform for windows games...
[11:16] <Kimahri> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2750
[11:16] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: enble universe and multiverse and you will have about 17 000 packages of software to choose from
[11:16] <glyn> I just installed mplayer-586 and it won't run
[11:16] <Navatiu> yeah p0w true.. that the problem
[11:16] <glyn> it just freezes
[11:16] <glyn> any advice?
[11:16] <glyn> so many errors on Ubuntu, I miss Windows..Heh
[11:16] <Shin_Gouki> hi, what is the command to specify : 1. A DNS Server 2. a Gateway. 3. a Private IP adress
[11:16] <crimsun> talios: please ask ogra about squeak*
[11:17] <thoreauputic> glyn: run it from a terminal, and paste the errors on a pastebin
[11:17] <Kimahri> Shin_Gouki: man interfaces
[11:17] <Navatiu> i use window for something on my primary computer.. secondary computer i use to mess with linux or other stuff.
[11:17] <Navatiu> who know
[11:17] <ubuntu> hi,,, guys
[11:17] <Navatiu> hi ubuntu
[11:17] <ubuntu> I miss windows
[11:18] <ccooke> ubuntu: what do you miss about it?
[11:18] <Shin_Gouki> ubuntu windows is...
[11:18] <BlankB> ubuntu: just curious why did you switch?
[11:18] <Shin_Gouki> i like my ubunut :D
[11:18] <p0windah> Shin_Gouki: 1. /etc/resolv.conf 2,3. /etc/network/interfaces
[11:18] <Shin_Gouki> its so fast even on 233 mhz :D
[11:18] <PoStAl> my joke sense is tingling.
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> thx p0windah
[11:19] <ales_italia> hi guys
[11:19] <vbgunz_> can Ubuntu read .CHM files?
[11:19] <crimsun> Kimahri: what syntax did you use?
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> of course
[11:19] <Kimahri> crimsun: ?
[11:19] <Belutz> vbgunz_, yes
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> its just comlied help file
[11:19] <crimsun> Kimahri: to load each module
[11:19] <gnarl> sup linux
[11:19] <Kimahri> crimsun: just 'modprobe <module>
[11:19] <Kimahri> '
[11:20] <Navatiu> sup gnarl
[11:20] <vbgunz_> Belutz does Ubuntu read it right out of the box or do I need to install something>?
[11:20] <ndlovu> is there some way to set up a "virtual" printer that automatically pipes through mpage?
[11:20] <Belutz> vbgunz_, you have to install xchm
[11:20] <ndlovu> I'm tired of printing to a file first and then mpaging it to the printer
[11:20] <vbgunz_> Belutz: thank you for that pointer ;)
[11:20] <Belutz> vbgunz_, :)
[11:21] <Shin_Gouki> ^^
[11:21] <p0windah> ndlovu: you know about piping and filtering in bash ? look up ">", "<" and "|"
[11:21] <crimsun> Kimahri: what laptop is this?
[11:21] <fwtest>  hi, i am looking for a rss reader, which can download also the message directly as soon as checking new one, thunderbird cant do this, anyone knows?
[11:21] <Kimahri> crimsun: IBM ThinkPad 380D
[11:21] <Kimahri> crimsun: it's ancient, i know.
[11:21] <selinium_> how do I drop the init level to that of a server?
[11:22] <ndlovu> p0windah: yes, but haven't figured out how to automate the mpage printing without first printing to a .ps file and dropping to the command line.
[11:22] <CzarAlex> Im a linux noob. Id like to update gaim from 1.4.0 to 1.5.0. I downloaded the source, unpackaged it, ran ./configure, make, make install, and then re-clicked on my bottom panal but when i go to Help > About, it still says 1.4.0. What did I do wrong?
[11:22] <Kimahri> CzarAlex: did you restart gaim?
[11:22] <ndlovu> p0windah: I'd like to be able to just print multiple pages per sheet from X
[11:22] <crimsun> Kimahri: try snd-cs4231 then.
[11:23] <Kimahri> crimsun: same stuff.
[11:23] <CzarAlex> Kimahri, only by making sure it was closed off before clicking on the preexisting gaim icon. Even restarted the computer.
[11:23] <Kimahri> CzarAlex: you may have to change the location of gaim from /usr/bin to /usr/local/bin
[11:23] <Kimahri> CzarAlex: on the icon, that is.
[11:23] <p0windah> CzarAlex: you are aware that gaim 1.5.0 is already in ubuntu breezy ?
[11:23] <ubuntu> guys do u know the fedora core 3
[11:23] <CzarAlex> Kimahri, lemme check that.
[11:23] <darkmatter> fwtest: have you tried liferea? it can update at a user specified interval.
[11:24] <CzarAlex> p0windah, Im using horay
[11:24] <ales_italia> i've a problem with SUSPEND TO RAM
[11:24] <p0windah> CzarAlex: its gonna be released in about a week... atleast using the official debs you get updates
[11:24] <p0windah> CzarAlex: the way you're doing it now, you've cut yourself off from ubuntu support and upgrades
[11:25] <bjv> when i apt-get the package 'kdevelop3' it does not work out of the box
[11:25] <bjv> in order to compile any of the example templates requires apt package 'libtool' which is not automagically detected as a dependency and must be gotten manually.
[11:25] <ubuntu> kimari have u install wine in your ubuntu??
[11:25] <CzarAlex> Kimahri, the command for the icon just states gaim. I ran `which gaim` and it points to usr/local/bin
[11:25] <fwtest> darkmatter, can it also download the body instead of only the subject?
[11:25] <bjv> what is this a failure of, and what is the best way to phrase the bugzilla report?
[11:25] <darkmatter> i believe so
[11:25] <ales_italia> i've an HP NX6125....with CPU ADM Turion 64 bit
[11:25] <HrdwrBob> bjv: dependancy failure
[11:25] <CzarAlex> p0windah, I used synaptic and noticed that it said I already had 1.5.0 installed, but Help > About in gaim said otherwise. why is that?
[11:25] <darkmatter> don't have it installed atm
[11:25] <aftertaf> good (GetRelativeTime())  everyone :)
[11:25] <darkmatter> will install and check
[11:25] <ales_italia> i've de-commented the following line: ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE
[11:26] <abcdefg> hello all
[11:26] <antisocialboris> hi, i need help setting up java
[11:26] <abcdefg> can someone help me with wireless?
[11:26] <ales_italia> but the suspend to ram doesn't work
[11:26] <CzarAlex> abcdefg, which adapter?
[11:26] <gnarl> there is a tute on java when u DL it from http://java.com
[11:26] <abcdefg> ath0
[11:26] <ubuntu> any have wine version in ubuntu????
[11:26] <CzarAlex> abcdefg, I mean what brand wireless hardware are you using?
[11:26] <antisocialboris> i followed their instructions when i d/l it but it doesnt seem to be working
[11:26] <abcdefg> zarAlex, I'm not sure. its internal.
[11:27] <Kimahri> abcdefg: what kind of laptop is this?
[11:27] <abcdefg> CzarAlex, it says Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC
[11:27] <Venson> "<ubuntu> any have wine version in ubuntu????" ....recursion? :>
[11:27] <CzarAlex> abcdefg, Okay thats beyond me. If it was wusb11 I could help.
[11:28] <dooglus> control-k has just started making new tabs in gnome-terminal.  is that a new breezy bug?  or did I mess my configuration up?
[11:28] <mshade> how do I specify pop and smtp ports in evolution?
[11:28] <abcdefg> Kimahri its a Toshiba
[11:28] <ales_italia> help with suspend_to_ram????
[11:28] <Kimahri> abcdefg: atheros AR5212... lemme check to see which kernel module it is.  i can get you at least that far.
[11:28] <Shin_Gouki> ales what is ur hardware
[11:28] <p0windah> CzarAlex: I have 1.5 installed in breezy and it works
[11:29] <ubuntu> <venson > do u have software where in can install a MS plaform???
[11:29] <abcdefg> ok Kimahri, thanks ^_^
[11:29] <Shin_Gouki> ales_italia describe ur problem a bit more detailed plz :)
[11:29] <ales_italia> do you mean what kind of pc i use?
[11:29] <ales_italia> ...ok
[11:29] <p0windah> CzarAlex: hepl says 1.5 correctly, you may have compiled gaim, but it seems you have not installed it correctly
[11:29] <CzarAlex> p0windah, is the process to ./configure, make, make install?
[11:29] <Venson> ubuntu: erm...no. Wine or Cedega or Crossover do those tricks, just so you know
[11:29] <ales_italia> i try to follow the wiki.....so i do this:
[11:29] <ales_italia> open a  terminal
[11:30] <ndlovu> If I choose print to file, can I insert a command there? So instead of specifying a .ps file, rather something like 'mpage -4 | lpr'?
[11:30] <ales_italia> sudo vim /etc/default/acpi-support
[11:30] <Venson> ubuntu: however, my philosophy is - if you want to use win apps, use windoze.....
[11:30] <Kimahri> abcdefg: or maybe not...
[11:30] <p0windah> CzarAlex: yes, but: sudo make install
[11:30] <ales_italia> i've de-commented the following line: ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE
[11:30] <CzarAlex> p0windah, Oo! would that cause the issues im having?
[11:30] <ales_italia> after i rebooted my machine
[11:30] <antisocialboris> i d/l jre-1... .bin and ran it in /usr/java and installed it, how do i get ff to notice it and work?
[11:30] <ales_italia> and i've tried to suspend it
[11:31] <Kimahri> crimsun: any ideas on what i should do about my sound?
[11:31] <p0windah> CzarAlex: typically, yes
[11:31] <ubuntu> venson what  is that?? is that a software by Microsoft? or a linux platform>
[11:31] <Shin_Gouki> ales_italia i know its hard but try to write in 2 TWO sentences so people can read ur problem
[11:31] <abcdefg> what is a ESSID?
[11:31] <crimsun> Kimahri: sec
[11:31] <CzarAlex> p0windah, okay thank you.
[11:31] <Venson> ubuntu: heh...all linux programs.
[11:31] <Venson> ubuntu: look them up
[11:31] <Shin_Gouki> ales_italia i know its hard but try to write in 2 TWO sentences so people can read ur problem
[11:31] <selinium_> Hi guys, how do I change the (i think this is right) init level to switch off all GDM stuff and leave me with command line?
[11:32] <aftertaf> selinium:  you can sudo init 1
[11:32] <Venson> selinium: /etc/inittab.....change the default from 4 or 5, to 3
[11:32] <aftertaf> if you have things like unmounting of /home to do
[11:32] <ubuntu> kimahri... may i asked u a thing
[11:32] <ales_italia> screen becomes black and machine doesn't suspend itself if i try to resume it i can...but i can't shutdown or reboot it
[11:32] <Kimahri> selinium_: init 3
[11:32] <Venson> selinium: that's a permanent change, btw....you can always change it back if you like.
[11:32] <aftertaf> selinium:  but you dont need to change init level just to kill X and go to cmd line
[11:32] <thoreauputic> selinium: don't - use sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop|restart
[11:32] <ubuntu> venson... ok .. where can i found those??
[11:33] <Venson> ubuntu: www.google.com
[11:33] <CzarAlex> If im running kubuntu, will I be able to update to breezy?
[11:33] <aftertaf> CzarAlex:  yes
[11:33] <Skid> whens breezy going to be released stable?
[11:33] <Skid> the 13th ?
[11:33] <Kimahri> Skid: see /topic
[11:33] <thoreauputic> OCt 13
[11:33] <SpaceNuts> yes
[11:33] <p0windah> CzarAlex: you can upgrade right now if you like
[11:33] <aftertaf> selinium:  what are you wanting to do?
[11:33] <aftertaf> hi thoreauputic :)
[11:33] <thoreauputic> hi aftertaf :)
[11:33] <CzarAlex> p0windah, Shoudldnt i wait for the official release the 13th?
[11:33] <CzarAlex> aftertaf, thank you
[11:34] <ubuntu> venson... ok thank.. do u used this windoze??
[11:34] <p0windah> CzarAlex: I think if you are comfortable compiling your own applications, you should be fine
[11:34] <Bateau_> when i upload a file to ubuntu (my laptop) it gets chmoded to 640. when i upload files to the webdir, the file cant be read so i have to chmod manualy every file to 755. how can i change so that i dont have to chmod manualy?
[11:34] <Venson> ubuntu: erm...windoze = MS Windows (tm)
[11:34] <Venson> ubuntu: you must be new to linux =)
[11:34] <crimsun> Kimahri: you'll need to reboot and see if there's a "quick boot" option in it. If so, disable it.
[11:34] <selinium_> aftertaf: I am runnning a PC a work, i just want to shut down all non-essential stuff and leave it running as a server till I get back to the office.
[11:34] <crimsun> Kimahri: in bios, that is.
[11:35] <p0windah> selinium: screensaver ?
[11:35] <thoreauputic> selinium: then use my command - init 1 turns off networking
[11:35] <selinium_> hi thoreauputic :)
[11:35] <aftertaf> selinium:  ok, then you can do the invoke gdm stop thingy thoreauputic mentioned...; but
[11:35] <ubuntu> venson.. what kind of linux do u used now??
[11:35] <vbgunz_> damn... I din't ask for too much... I just had to kill Firefox :(
[11:35] <tenzin> hello guys I have a question: In the Ubuntumenue (breezy) I dont find anymore the "starter-menu" (there where I can configure my grub at startup) I need to add MS back on grub....with wich command can I start it from the console?
[11:35] <CzarAlex> p0windah, comfortable? :) I feel like Im going to be sick when I do it. heh We`ll see :)
[11:35] <darkmatter> fwtest:yes
[11:35] <selinium_> thoreauputic, what about init3 ?
[11:35] <Venson> ubuntu: Slackware
[11:35] <Kimahri> crimsun: well crap.  means i need to login to my desktop.
[11:35] <thoreauputic> selinium: won't do anything on ubuntu/debian
[11:36] <vbgunz_> tenzin, I believe they removed it for good... I don't have it either but you can sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst to edit it by hand
[11:36] <ubuntu> venson... do u install any games in ur linux?
[11:36] <thoreauputic> selinium: debian distros don't use level 3 as cli
[11:36] <selinium_> thoreauputic how do you keep all this info in without your head exploding? :)
[11:36] <Venson> ubuntu: no. i do not game.
[11:36] <Tadej`Certanc> hi ppl
[11:36] <thoreauputic> selinium: heh
[11:36] <Kimahri> selinium_: i believe that debian distros use level 2 as CLI
[11:36] <Tadej`Certanc> how come that I dont have grub.conf?
[11:36] <p0windah> selinium: I have balloons attached to my ears
[11:36] <ubuntu> venson.. any MS platform??
[11:36] <Kimahri> Tadej`Certanc: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:36] <Tadej`Certanc> does ubuntu use grub boot loader?
[11:36] <tenzin> vbgunz: thx I try that (very poor that they removed it...it was beautyfull)
[11:36] <aftertaf> Kimahri:  nope.... init 2 is the default renlevel
[11:36] <Tadej`Certanc> Kimahri: thanks
[11:36] <Venson> ubuntu: can you please speak in full sentences so i don't have to guess?
[11:37] <vbgunz_> tenzin: I actuallyt mentioned it in here a couple days ago and nobody ever seened it before :P
[11:37] <ubuntu> venson.. have u install any Microsoft platform in ur linux??
[11:38] <Venson> ubuntu: that question makes no sense unless you're referring to something like VMWare
[11:38] <selinium_> thoreauputic, can you explain sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop|restart     for me. I like to konw why/what i am typing!
[11:38] <Venson> ubuntu: if you're asking me if i install Windows apps under linux, the answer is no
[11:38] <thoreauputic> init 1 = no network, CLI : init 2 = default for evrything else
[11:38] <vbgunz_> Venson: you just gave him what he was looking for...
[11:38] <abcdefg> how do you reconfigure your eathernet card?
[11:38] <tenzin> vbgunz: hehe
[11:38] <Kimahri> selinium_: just /etc/init.d/gdm stop will kill X
[11:38] <thoreauputic> selinium: you are shutting down / restarting the display manager
[11:38] <Shin_Gouki> abcdefg --> use ifconfig
[11:39] <thoreauputic> selinium:  sudo invoke-rc.d does the same as sudo /etc/init.d/
[11:39] <ubuntu> venson,,, ok.... im using the ubuntu now but i want to install game any software will u recommend??
[11:39] <Venson> vbgunz_: people say i do have a way with newbies
[11:39] <selinium_> thoreauputic, Oh, cheers, I am used to the other way. :)
[11:39] <vbgunz_> Venson: how are you with ubern00bs?
[11:40] <thoreauputic> selinium: either way - invoke-rc.d is just a shorthand
[11:40] <jmg> ok guys i want to file a bug on the state of suspend in my laptop but what package should i file it under? acpi or klaptop?
[11:40] <Shin_Gouki> there is no such thing as a newbie, there are things which opeople dont know baed upon varied topics :D
[11:40] <Venson> vbgunz_: i eat them lol....jk. i've dealt with all kinds, really
[11:40] <CzarAlex> whats the console command to check what kernel version i have
[11:40] <jmg> CzarAlex: uname -a
[11:40] <Kimahri> thoreauputic: i beg to differ.  you can tab-complete /etc/init.d/
[11:40] <CzarAlex> jmg, thank you.
[11:40] <egoleo> hello
[11:40] <vbgunz_> Venson: it's just funny seeing your conversation between you and Ubuntu...
[11:40] <thoreauputic> selinium: sudo /etc/init.d/* has the advantage that tab completion can be used
[11:40] <egoleo> Ubuntu breezy?
[11:41] <Venson> vbgunz_: yeah...i suppose there's a language barrier involved somewhere in there
[11:41] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: yes, I just added that - you're right of course
[11:41] <egoleo> having problem with mysql on Ubuntu breezy
[11:41] <abcdefg> can someone help me with the install of ubuntu?
[11:41] <CzarAlex> egoleo, ive used it on hoary, perhaps I can help
[11:41] <egoleo> abcdefg
[11:41] <egoleo> u have the cd
[11:41] <egoleo> ok
[11:41] <egoleo> given me this error
[11:41] <ubuntu> hehhe.. im just curious guys.. and i just new with this linux thing..
[11:41] <Shin_Gouki> abcdefg, whats ur native language if it other then english i suggest go to ur native langue support channel : like: #ubuntu-fr or ubuntu-de
[11:42] <vbgunz_> dagnabit... frigging firefox keep freezing... no one worry, I am Windows and i am a professional...
[11:42] <p0windah> abcdefg: ask your questions and we'll try to help you out
[11:42] <Kimahri> crimsun: rebooting the laptop now
[11:42] <egoleo> Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.
[11:42] <egoleo>         Please take a look at the syslog.
[11:42] <egoleo> /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[11:42] <egoleo> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[11:42] <egoleo> Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[11:42] <selinium_> CHeers all for your help
[11:42] <abcdefg> what kernal should I install? linux-386 linux-image-386 linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 ???
[11:42] <Venson> egoleo: install mysql-server yet?
[11:42] <vbgunz_> ok, I just killed firefox and will reformat and repartition the pc... brb
[11:42] <egoleo> yeah
[11:42] <egoleo> i have
[11:43] <abcdefg> what kernal should I install? linux-386 linux-image-386 linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 ???
[11:43] <CzarAlex> egoleo, did you follow the directions at ubuntuguide.org?
[11:43] <Venson> egoleo: double check it for me again
[11:43] <Navatiu> ... vbgunz. your firefox failed and you reformat? :)
[11:43] <abcdefg> what kernal should I install? linux-386, linux-image-386, or linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 ???
[11:43] <selinium_> egoleo, dont paste in this channel! :) use pastebin
[11:43] <egoleo> i have ok
[11:43] <p0windah> abcdefg: whats your cpu ?
[11:43] <Shin_Gouki> abcdefg, whats ur native language?
[11:43] <egoleo> ok
[11:43] <vbgunz_> Navatiu: I got it down packed... be up and running in 10
[11:43] <egoleo> thnx
[11:44] <vbgunz_> :P
[11:44] <abcdefg> 3.0ghz pent 4
[11:44] <abcdefg> I'm American.
[11:44] <egoleo> so how do i get it working
[11:44] <Navatiu> ok
[11:44] <Shin_Gouki> ok then good luck here ^^
[11:44] <selinium_> egoleo, what are you trrying to do?
[11:44] <egoleo> i just installed the mysql-server
[11:44] <vbgunz_> Navatiu: I am just kidding... Firefox just acting funny atm
[11:45] <egoleo> and want to start it
[11:45] <Navatiu> ah
[11:45] <selinium_> egoleo, Here is the walk through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:45] <egoleo> and its given me that error
[11:45] <Navatiu> no way i would reformat just because firefox crash. heh
[11:45] <Navatiu> or rather freeze heh
[11:45] <mahangu> can I do dual monitors?
[11:45] <abcdefg> p0windah, I have a pent 4 3.0ghz processor.
[11:45] <egoleo> ok
[11:45] <egoleo> trying it
[11:45] <Nermal> abcdefg: poor thing
[11:45] <Nermal> install linux-686
[11:46] <selinium_> egoleo, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[11:46] <abcdefg> me Nermal?
[11:46] <p0windah> abcdefg: apt-get install
[11:46] <Nermal> yes
[11:46] <abcdefg> ok thanks ^_^
[11:46] <p0windah> abcdefg: linux-686
[11:46] <p0windah> oopsie :)
[11:46] <selinium_> egoleo, if all installed correctly
[11:46] <egoleo> that is what i was doing it was given me that problem
[11:46] <mahangu> how can i check if my video card supports it?
[11:46] <egoleo> yeah
[11:46] <vbgunz_> Navatiu: I need to reformat repartition my bed... I am sleepy
[11:46] <CzarAlex> Which application can I use? I want to plug in a frequency scanner and have the ambulance dispatches streamed to other people across the internet. I already have a working webserver up on the box.
[11:47] <selinium_> how did you install mysql? Have you connected it apache?
[11:47] <Navatiu> heh
[11:47] <Navatiu> ok vbgunz
[11:47] <Navatiu> have a good sleep, vbgunz
[11:48] <vbgunz_> Navatiu: not going to sleep, am googling for something *but* I am dead tired and I should be hitting the sheets
[11:48] <Kimahri> crimsun: i'm in the bios now... what am i looking for?
[11:49] <abcdefg> is anyone on a wireless connection?
[11:49] <abcdefg> because I'm having issues
[11:49] <vbgunz_> abcdefg: whats the issue?
[11:49] <vbgunz_> abcdefg: whats the OS you on?
[11:49] <vbgunz_> abcdefg: whats the issue?
[11:49] <abcdefg> my wireless can't find the network.
[11:49] <vbgunz_> abcdefg: sorry, I didn't know I typed that twice :P
[11:50] <abcdefg> My OS is Ubuntu Linux.
[11:50] <crimsun> Kimahri: "quick boot" or something along those lines
[11:50] <vbgunz_> your wireless card is configured and active?
[11:50] <selinium_> egoleo, have you connect MySQL to the apache?
[11:50] <p0windah> *gasp*
[11:50] <abcdefg> I belive so vbgunz_
[11:50] <Kimahri> crimsun: there is no option like that in there.
[11:51] <vbgunz_> double check, I had an issue once where my wireless card kept getting deactivated for no reason
[11:51] <Kimahri> remember this is a laptop, designed to get out of the bios as fast as possible.
[11:51] <abcdefg> ok
[11:52] <egoleo> i just want only mysql
[11:52] <mwql> how would i set up ssh tunnelling?
[11:52] <Kimahri> mwql: man ssh
[11:52] <mwql> kmahri: i have, but am really stuck
[11:53] <Bateau_> when i upload a file to ubuntu (my laptop) it gets chmoded to 640. when i upload files to the webdir, the file cant be read so i have to chmod manualy every file to 755. how can i change so that i dont have to chmod manualy?
[11:53] <Kimahri> mwql: all a tunnel is is basic port forwarding
[11:53] <mwql> Kimahri: thx for the tip, i didnt know that
[11:53] <p0windah> Bateau_: how are you uploading them ?
[11:53] <johnnybezak> is there a way to get OOo to use the gnome theme
[11:53] <iru> bateau : upload under the username of apache user
[11:53] <johnnybezak> mines all ugly and silver
[11:54] <CzarAlex> what program can I use to stream audio from a microphone to others?
[11:54] <p0windah> CzarAlex: gnomemeeting
[11:54] <Bateau_> i upload to public_html dir of the user i upload with. i use FTP
[11:54] <p0windah> Bateau_: look in your ftp servers configuration files then
[11:54] <CzarAlex> p0windah, hmm..does that allow someone to connect via a webaddy and open up something like Win Media player (most users will be on windowz)
[11:55] <johnnybezak> its cool found the package
[11:55] <Bateau_> p0windah: where can i find that?
[11:55] <iru> bateau: i don't know if ftp uses it, but file creation mask (umask) usually set in .profile
[11:55] <p0windah> CzarAlex: its comparable to netmeeting I believe
[11:55] <p0windah> Bateau_: typically in /etc/
[11:55] <ales_italia> HP NX6125 AMD Turion 64bit 80 GB HD 512 RAM. Problem with suspend to ram, i inserted the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support file, i rebooted and restarted the machine and tried to suspend it, but it doesn?t work! The screen is black, but it doesn't switch off itself, if i try to resume it, i can do it, but i can't shutdown or reboot it. Any ideas?
[11:55] <vbgunz_> I have a general question... I have another computer in the room with me... no one is using it so how can I take advantage of it's processing power? Sort of like my own personal SETI project... a teeneeweenee grid so to say...
[11:55] <CzarAlex> p0windah, ok thanks.
[11:55] <crimsun> Kimahri: disable pnp os
[11:55] <Kimahri> crimsun: no such option in bios.
[11:56] <crimsun> you don't have a Plug n play option at all?
[11:56] <Kimahri> crimsun: nope.
[11:56] <crimsun> ugh, this is going to be messy
[11:56] <Kimahri> crimsun: it uses a proprietary ibm bios.
[11:56] <Kimahri> it's not the standard Award / Phoenix i'm used to :)
[11:57] <crimsun> no quick boot/fast boot/easy boot, etc?
[11:57] <Kimahri> lol nope.
[11:57] <Bateau_> p0windah: i cant find anything there
[11:57] <selinium_> egoleo, How are you getting on?
[11:57] <p0windah> Bateau_: whats the name of the ftp server you installed ?
[11:57] <crimsun> Kimahri: ok, you'll need to pass the parameters to modprobe explicitly then
[11:57] <Kimahri> crimsun: using old hardware is an exercise in patience.
[11:57] <crimsun> Kimahri: or try the ps2.exe utility
[11:57] <Bateau_> p0windah: i dont realy know. ftp just worked when i installed :x
[11:57] <Kimahri> crimsun: so you want me to reboot it?
[11:57] <selinium_> vbgunz_ yep!
[11:57] <Kimahri> crimsun: it's linux only, so i don't know if i can use .exe files.
[11:58] <p0windah> whats the default ftp daemon for ubuntu ?
[11:58] <crimsun> Kimahri: sure. If you don't have any of those options, there's nothing much to be done except to brute-force the module parameters
[11:58] <Kimahri> crimsun: ok... brb.  i have time for a cigarette while its rebooting
[11:58] <vbgunz_> selinium_ hello
[11:59] <Kimahri> crimsun: pretty sad, eh?
[11:59] <abcdefg> does this distro use apt-get?
[11:59] <selinium_> vbgunz_ I can send you a file with the details on how to do it.. if you want. Ita full tutorial
[11:59] <Kimahri> abcdefg: yes it does
[11:59] <Kimahri> -brb-
[11:59] <selinium_> vbgunz_, the SETI thing
[11:59] <ales_italia> HP NX6125 AMD Turion 64bit 80 GB HD 512 RAM. Problem with suspend to ram, i inserted the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support file, i rebooted and restarted the machine and tried to suspend it, but it doesn?t work! The screen is black, but it doesn't switch off itself, if i try to resume it, i can do it, but i can't shutdown or reboot it. Any Ideas?
[11:59] <alpha> Hello, what is the name of the main ubuntu config/update tool?
[11:59] <vbgunz_> selinium: oh you man the grid
[12:00] <Shin_Gouki> alpha, apt-get?
[12:00] <Shin_Gouki> alpha, aptitude?
[12:00] <alpha> thanks
[12:00] <selinium_> ales_italia, the gui is synaptic
[12:00] <ales_italia> what do you mena?
[12:00] <selinium_> alpha, , the gui is synaptic
[12:00] <vbgunz_> sure, send me docs thats a blessing... I have 2 2.8 more than 2G ram together ... that'll be nice
[12:00] <Bateau_> p0windah: how can i find out?
[12:00] <alpha> aptiude it was, thank you :)
[12:00] <selinium_> ales_italia, Sorry tabbedthe wrong nick :)
[12:00] <ales_italia> ok
[12:00] <ales_italia> :)
[12:00] <glyn> can anyone help me please to get a movie player that can play certain wmv files?  it'd be a blessing to get this to work
[12:00] <ales_italia> no problem!
[12:00] <crimsun> Kimahri: apologies if my responses are lagged. I have a highly critical ALSA bug to squash by this afternoon.
[12:01] <p0windah> Bateau_: open a terminal and type "ftp localhost"
[12:01] <Shin_Gouki> hey someone help him ^
[12:01] <Shin_Gouki> ^ ^
[12:01] <Bateau_> p0windah: 220 localhost.localdomain FTP server (Version 6.4/OpenBSD/Linux-ftpd-0.17) ready.
[12:01] <darkmatter> glyn: vlc does this. so does xine and mplayer
[12:02] <Shin_Gouki> hi what is the config tool for ubuntu standard firewall?
[12:02] <selinium_> vbgunz_, ok just downloading to my machine from my other one! :)
[12:02] <p0windah> Bateau_: type "man ftpd"
[12:02] <vbgunz_> cool selinium_ do you see a difference?
[12:02] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: there are several - the easiest is probably firestarter
[12:02] <darkmatter> Shin_Gouki: if you need a gui firewall, insatll firestarter
[12:02] <Nvidiot> Okay, I *must* be overlooking something silly, but I can't seem to install libdvdcss2. apt-get tells me it can't find it. I have added the multiverse repository to the sources.list... http://pastebin.com/382473 that's my sources.list
[12:03] <p0windah> Bateau_: or to quickly track down the config files, type "dpkg -L ftpd | grep \/etc"
[12:03] <Shin_Gouki> i did the ubnuntu server install what firewall IS there on by DEFAULT?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: erm - no
[12:03] <darkmatter> Shin_Gouki:iptables
[12:03] <Shin_Gouki> no firewall by default?
[12:03] <Shin_Gouki> O_O
[12:03] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: iptables is built in to the kernel
[12:03] <Shin_Gouki> ic
[12:04] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: there's no servers listening by default
[12:04] <Shin_Gouki> if i install now firestarter will there be any conflicts?
[12:04] <selinium_> vbgunz_, I have offered you the file :)
[12:04] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: no
[12:04] <alpha> How do I configure a ISA sound card under ubuntu?
[12:04] <darkmatter> Shin_Gouki:no
[12:04] <Shin_Gouki> do i need to disable , iptables?
[12:04] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[12:04] <thoreauputic> no
[12:04] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: you only need a firewall if you run internet services
[12:04] <vbgunz_> ok accepted
[12:04] <Myrtti> would you guys have any ideas on how to convert a wma file to mp3 or ogg without mplayer?
[12:04] <vbgunz_> selinium_ I am downloading it now
[12:05] <Kimahri> crimsun: it's alright.  ok... i'm staring at a login screen, so tell me what to do :)
[12:05] <Shin_Gouki> throeauputic, i am paranoid i need ALWAYS a firewall :)
[12:05] <selinium_> vbgunz_, There you go, have fun!
[12:05] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: Ubuntu ships without any "listening" ports
[12:05] <Shin_Gouki> throeauputic, that is kinda a relief
[12:05] <Shin_Gouki> throeauputic, that is kinda a relief, unlike windows u guess :D
[12:05] <thoreauputic> indeed
[12:05] <CzarAlex> thanks for the help guys. have a good morning.
[12:06] <Nvidiot> any idea about the libdvdcss2 ?
[12:06] <mwql> Kimahri: remote port forwarding --> is that a tunnel success?
[12:06] <Shin_Gouki> can someonle plz help: ales_italia?
[12:06] <Kimahri> mwql: dunno... i hardly have reason to tunnel stuff through
[12:06] <vbgunz_> selinium_ i am currently in Windows working and waiting on someone but when I boot into Ubuntu, I will give it a serious check as I've always been so interested in it. Thank you so much. Do you experience the difference in any way on your network?
[12:07] <crimsun> Kimahri: log in, open a Terminal
[12:07] <Nvidiot> it has to be something silly I'm overlooking here, but I've got no idea what it can be... I followed the info on the wiki and the unofficial starter guide, but it doesn't work
[12:07] <Kimahri> crimsun: no need... already ssh'd to it
[12:07] <bigfoot1> How can I make my desktop display a webpage (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/personalapplet.html). I want to display the time of various countries.
[12:08] <ales_italia> HP NX6125 AMD Turion 64bit 80 GB HD 512 RAM. Problem with suspend to ram, i inserted the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support file, i rebooted and restarted the machine and tried to suspend it, but it doesn?t work! The screen is black, but it doesn't switch off itself, if i try to resume it, i can do it, but i can't shutdown or reboot it. Any Ideas?
[12:08] <glyn> darkmatter>I installed VLC, yet when I open the wmv file I'm trying to play, I get no sound nor video
[12:08] <Navatiu> maybe you need W32codec?
[12:08] <Bateau_> p0windah: i cant find anything :(
[12:08] <lamer1> I've installed prismstumbler but Icon on my Applications menu points to /usr/bin/pts ( wich does no exist ) is some mistake or am I missing something...?
[12:09] <glyn> where do I get w32 codec?
[12:09] <Shin_Gouki> question: i installed printer-drivers, do i need to reboot system get things workin?
[12:09] <glyn> well VLC isn't even playing mp3s
[12:09] <Nvidiot> glyn: it's on the wiki
[12:09] <glyn> it seems whatever media player I try, it doesn't work
[12:09] <Nvidiot> glyn: you have to install a library first
[12:09] <darkmatter> glyn:easiest way is to grab EasyUbuntu from the forums
[12:09] <Shin_Gouki> question: i installed printer-drivers(apt-get install cupsomatic-ppd), do i need to reboot system get things workin?
[12:10] <glyn> install a library..how?
[12:10] <Nvidiot> glyn: read this -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[12:11] <Nvidiot> glyn: note that I am stuck with libdvdcss2 that's mentioned there
[12:11] <selinium_> Shin_Gouki, you do not neeed to reboot with linux. Sometimes you mat need to restart the application
[12:11] <crimsun> Kimahri: try: sudo modprobe snd-cs4236 isapnp=0 dma2=0 dma1=1 irq=5 sb_port=0x220 fm_port=0x388 mpu_port=0x201 cport=0x538 port=0x534
[12:11] <selinium_> Shin_Gouki, what printer are you trying to get working?
[12:11] <Kimahri> crimsun: of course leaving out the sudo part because i set the root password.
[12:11] <Shin_Gouki> selinium, what application i need to restart after installing pritner drivers?
[12:12] <Shin_Gouki> selinium, HP. DJ 690C
[12:12] <rekrutacja>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY kasia
[12:12] <selinium_> shawarma,  none, system/admin/printers   gui for installing printers
[12:12] <rekrutacja> ooops :-)))
[12:12] <korben78> heh... time to change the password :P
[12:12] <Nvidiot> rekrutacja: time to change the password :P
[12:13] <abcdefg> how do you make a new network connection in ubuntu?
[12:13] <Nvidiot> and next time type that in the status window, not in a channel window :P
[12:13] <Kimahri> crimsun: FATAL: Error inserting snd_cs4236 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.ko): No such device
[12:13] <Kimahri> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_cs4236
[12:13] <glyn> hmm another error..I can't run synaptic.  "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[12:13] <selinium_> vbgunz_, What do you think?
[12:13] <kikinovak> Hi. I just installed a dhcp server (ubuntu, 'server') on a small LAN, and it rocks. Q: how is hostname attribution supposed to be managed? In each machine's /etc/hostname? Or via dhcpd.conf?
[12:13] <lamer1> I've installed prismstumbler but Icon on my Applications menu points to /usr/bin/pts ( wich does no exist ) is there some mistake or am I missing something...?
[12:13] <vbgunz_> selinium_ sorry, I am not in Ubuntu at the moment
[12:13] <korben78> Nvidiot: great minds eh?? ;)
[12:13] <iru> abcd, u sound like gates man
[12:14] <crimsun> Kimahri: ok, try snd-cs4232 with those parameters
[12:14] <iru> we don't have no network neighbourhood and new network conections on linux
[12:14] <Shin_Gouki> what do i need to get my Printer: HP DJ 690C workin?
[12:14] <Nvidiot> korben78: I've been on irc for a while, it suprises me he wasn't ghosted after one second :)
[12:14] <Kimahri> crimsun: same
[12:14] <crimsun> Kimahri: remove isapnp=0
[12:15] <Nvidiot> I *must* be overlooking something silly, but I can't seem to install libdvdcss2. apt-get tells me it can't find it. I have added the multiverse repository to the sources.list... http://pastebin.com/382473 that's my sources.list
[12:15] <Kimahri> crimsun: same.
[12:15] <crimsun> Kimahri: with snd-cs4236, too?
[12:15] <aaron> hi all
[12:15] <Kimahri> crimsun: yep
[12:15] <mouhahaha> helo
[12:15] <crimsun> Kimahri: ok, then you have to find a way to disable plug n play on that bios.
[12:15] <Shin_Gouki> hi question: what do i need to get my Printer: HP DJ 690C workin?
[12:15] <aaron> how do you make the network connection icon work? when using a new connection?
[12:15] <crimsun> Kimahri: try looking on the various thinkpad resources
[12:16] <DjKritical> Can anyone tell me how to restart the 'sound' service?...
[12:16] <Nvidiot> aaron: set the properties of the network icon to the proper network card. I've got two, one for my wireless, the other one for my non-wired port
[12:16] <Kimahri> crimsun: sound isn't *that* important... i normally only run nxclient on it, and i was just trying to figure out how to make it work so i could forward sound through
[12:17] <aaron> thanks Nvidiot
[12:17] <aaron> ^_^
[12:17] <Nvidiot> DjKritical: I suppose one could unload the sound kernel module and load it again... not exactly the cleanest way though
[12:17] <aaron> how do I become root user in gnome with ubuntu?
[12:17] <crimsun> DjKritical: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-restart
[12:17] <Hendric> can anyone help me with samba? i shared a folder from this computer using the "Shared Folders" GUI.. but still i can't access them coz its asking for a password..
[12:17] <Kimahri> DjKritical: /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[12:18] <DjKritical> Well... the reason being.. I have usb headphones + onboard sound... and my onboard sound has stopped working!
[12:18] <Nvidiot> aaron: you do things with "sudo command_here"
[12:18] <Kimahri> aaron: use gksu
[12:18] <aaron> ok thanks Nvidiot
[12:18] <DjKritical> alsa?... quick question... arn't I using ESD by default?...
[12:18] <Shin_Gouki> plz were i may find printer driver support?
[12:18] <crimsun> DjKritical: err, make that force-reload
[12:18] <crimsun> DjKritical: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload
[12:18] <Kimahri> DjKritical: ESD runs on top of alsa... ESD is a software mixer
[12:18] <DjKritical> ahh I see
[12:19] <crimsun> in Breezy you can select the default sound device that esd uses
[12:19] <DjKritical> in the multimedia selection... which should I choose?
[12:19] <DjKritical> breezy?... but not in hoary?
[12:19] <crimsun> not in Hoary.
[12:19] <korben78> Nvidiot: check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67655
[12:19] <locomorto> Personally I think artsd works much better then esd
[12:19] <DjKritical> mybe I should upgrade =)
[12:19] <Kimahri> locomorto: personally... i think both suck, as my sound card has hardware mixing
[12:20] <thoreauputic> locomorto: *anything* works better than esd
[12:20] <locomorto> But most people dont have a hardware mixer
[12:20] <Kimahri> locomorto: if you have an SB! live or better, you do :)
[12:20] <DjKritical> I do I do :D
[12:20] <ales_italia> 
[12:20] <Kimahri> DjKritical: not talking about DJ equipment :P
[12:20] <Nvidiot> korben78: I can't search... lol But why is this not on any of the ubuntu mirrors?
[12:20] <DjKritical> oh... nevermind lol
[12:21] <glyn> I have an error..I can't run synaptic.  "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[12:21] <aaron> what is a good MP3player for ubuntu?
[12:21] <Kimahri> glyn: use aptitude.
[12:21] <rekrutacja> how to change password on freenode? faq says nothing about it...
[12:21] <Kimahri> rekrutacja: /msg nickserv help
[12:21] <thoreauputic> glyn: try sudo chown youruser:youruser ~/.Xauthority
[12:21] <bigfoot1> TO anyone: how can i get world time on my desktop/ubuntu? what's the easy way?
[12:22] <selinium_> aaron xmms or beep-media-player
[12:22] <thoreauputic> glyn: where "youruser" is glyn or whatever
[12:22] <selinium_> aaron you will need to enable mp3 playback
[12:22] <glyn> what is the ~/?
[12:22] <locomorto> aaron: rhythmbox is not horrible either
[12:22] <aaron> how do I do that selinium?
[12:22] <glyn> directory path?
[12:22] <Kimahri> glyn: ~/ is shorthand for /home/<user>
[12:22] <DjKritical> I don't suppose there is a way to upgrade to breezy from hoary?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> glyn: just means your home directory
[12:22] <locomorto> !tell aaron about mp3
[12:22] <selinium_> !tell aaron about mp3
[12:23] <Bateau_> how much space does Ubuntu need? will a 9Gb disk be enough?
[12:23] <selinium_> lol
[12:23] <locomorto> Bateau_: yes
[12:23] <Skid> Bateau_: yeah, plenty
[12:23] <locomorto> selinium_: too slow :P
[12:23] <selinium_> aaron, you have just been told...twice! :)
[12:23] <guowei> will 4Gb be enough?
[12:23] <Kimahri> Bateau_: yes, it'll be plenty.  i have ubuntu running on an ancient laptop with only a 2G hard disk
[12:23] <Skid> I've had it on a 1.2GB drive before
[12:23] <selinium_> locomorto, indeed!
[12:23] <Bateau_> cause i just got a msg in the install, that there was not enough disk space :x
[12:23] <rekrutacja> Kimahri thanks
[12:23] <locomorto> Bateau_: is it all aviable for ubuntu?
[12:24] <locomorto> Or is windows/something else
[12:24] <korben78> Nvidiot: try adding deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:24] <locomorto> on there as well?
[12:24] <glyn> glyn@Haksmoke:~$ sudo chown glyn:glyn /home/glyn/xauthority chown: cannot access `/home/glyn/xauthority': No such file or directoryglyn@Haksmoke:~
[12:24] <guowei> btw, when i am installing ubuntu 5.10 for ppc, same error occurs everytime
[12:24] <Bateau_> locomorto: yes
[12:24] <Kimahri> glyn: it's .Xauthority
[12:24] <Bateau_> no windows
[12:24] <locomorto> glyn:.xauthority
[12:24] <aaron> selinium my firefox browser says I'm offline have any idea why?
[12:24] <Bateau_> i formated
[12:24] <locomorto> glyn: .xauthority *
[12:24] <guowei> something related to "/var/....."
[12:24] <Kimahri> glyn: so /home/glyn/.Xauthority
[12:24] <rekrutacja> is tehre anyone with small children? i'm looking for people with experience in introducing kids to computers
[12:25] <glyn> k thanks, I did that
[12:25] <thoreauputic> glyn: also note *nix is case sensitive
[12:25] <Nvidiot> korben78: running apt-get update now, lets try again
[12:25] <aaron> firefox says I'm offline how do I fix that?
[12:25] <Nvidiot> korben78: missing still
[12:25] <VoX> !sources
[12:25] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:25] <glyn> still get the same error
[12:26] <thoreauputic> glyn: in your home dir type  ls -l .Xauthority
[12:26] <thoreauputic> glyn: what does that say?
[12:26] <Nvidiot> korben78: and if I do sudo dpkg -i http://url_to_libdvdcss that was referenced in that forum post I get an error too
[12:26] <Kimahri> aaron: file -> work offline (make sure that's not checked)
[12:26] <thoreauputic> glyn: correction  ls -al .Xauthority
[12:26] <Nvidiot> korben78: it says that it can't find the file even though I copied & pasted the full url to the deb file
[12:26] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: grab it
[12:26] <kbrooks> don't pass the full url
[12:27] <kbrooks> wget -c http://url
[12:27] <Nvidiot> kbrooks: ah okay :)
[12:27] <kbrooks> and sudo dpkg -i ...
[12:27] <fr00d> Hello!
[12:27] <Kimahri> i remember you, kbrooks... a fed up gentoo user moved away :P
[12:27] <Kimahri> hello fr00d
[12:27] <fr00d> I've a Problem: I forgot my root password.
[12:27] <korben78> hiya fr00d
[12:27] <fr00d> What can I do?
[12:27] <glyn> glyn@Haksmoke:~$ ls -l .Xauthority-rw-------  1 glyn glyn 119 2005-10-04 01:53 .Xauthority
[12:28] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: dpkg doesnt support web retrival
[12:28] <thoreauputic> fr00d: unless you made one, you don't have one
[12:28] <Kimahri> fr00d: sudo passwd root
[12:28] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: only apt, and thats by a file
[12:28] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: don't encourage that, please
[12:28] <Nvidiot> kbrooks: understood :)
[12:28] <thoreauputic> !root
[12:28] <Nvidiot> now the next bit on the list is gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:28] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:28] <korben78> Nvidiot: any luck?
[12:29] <kbrooks> brb
[12:29] <Nvidiot> I have libdvdcss2 installed now, next bit is that gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:29] <thoreauputic> glyn: your output looks normal
[12:29] <korben78> excellent...glad to see its progressing :)
[12:29] <Kimahri> i'm just curious... who in their lsb-non-compliant mind had the idea to disable root?
[12:29] <korben78> anyone here able to help with an ati 9600xt config?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> glyn: what happens if you type sudo synaptic ?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: read ubotu's URL - this debate is OLD
[12:30] <glyn> command not found
[12:30] <fr00d> Great! thx
[12:30] <DjKritical> okay..  I've tried my best to fix this myself.... I have 2 sound devices... onboard and usb... I just want onboard to work again.... hoary hedgehog =(
[12:30] <Nvidiot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <- I'm following that, and the one with gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse fails, even though I have multiverse in my sources.list
[12:30] <thoreauputic> glyn: do you have synaptic installed?
[12:31] <glyn> I've used it before
[12:31] <aftertaf> Kimahri:  distro to help newcomers.... so root disabled means less damage easily done
[12:31] <thoreauputic> glyn: then you made a typo probably
[12:31] <johnnybezak> hey guys, i'm being told that I've run out of place on my disk. when I do a dh -h it says that the partition mounted on /home has 30 gig's and 30 gig's free. how come my home dir which is at /home/johnnybezak isn't on the /home partition with all the free room?
[12:31] <thoreauputic> glyn:  sudo synaptic
[12:31] <korben78> Kimahri: there is still a root console available
[12:31] <jip> how can i create /dev/dvb -filesystem? i'm trying to get my Hauppauge DVB-T -card to work. should i install some packages or what?
[12:31] <glyn> yer right..typo..lol
[12:32] <Kimahri> aftertaf: root disabled but allowing sudo still doesn't make much sense.
[12:32] <ales_italia> HP NX6125 AMD Turion 64bit 80 GB HD 512 RAM. Problem with suspend to ram, i inserted the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support file, i rebooted and restarted the machine and tried to suspend it, but it doesn?t work! The screen is black, but it doesn't switch off itself, if i try to resume it, i can do it, but i can't shutdown or reboot it. Any Ideas?
[12:32] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: *please* read the discussion on the wiki
[12:32] <aftertaf> Kimahri:  sort of... but you have to type sudo first and give your pw....
[12:32] <Kimahri> korben78: i don't like doing Applications -> Run Application -> gksudo gnome-terminal
[12:32] <aftertaf> ok thoreauputic :)
[12:32] <thoreauputic> !tell Kimahri about rootsudo
[12:33] <Kimahri> . /ignore ubotu
[12:33] <Nvidiot> one could also just open a terminal and type sudo su :)
[12:33] <Kimahri> i already have that site open
[12:33] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: in gnome-terminal type sudo -i - voila, a root shell
[12:34] <glyn> how do I add the multiverse repository?  I'm on the wiki on adding repositories how to but it doesn't say
[12:34] <Kimahri> on my gentoo box, root cannot log in on the console or GDM, and the only way to root is through su -
[12:34] <Nvidiot> glyn: http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback
[12:34] <Kimahri> root's also not allowed ssh
[12:35] <Nvidiot> glyn: don't put the 2 backport lines in though, those don't work
[12:35] <glyn> ah got multiverse going now
[12:35] <Nvidiot> glyn: let me know if apt-get complains about gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse for you too
[12:37] <Seveas> !tell Nvidiot about ubuntuguide
[12:37] <Nvidiot> Seveas: okay, so the ubuntuguide isn't perfect, the wiki must be out of date too then
[12:38] <Kimahri> thoreauputic: at any rate, on my install of ubuntu, it asked me for a root pass, and root is enabled.
[12:38] <Sonderblade> when will ubuntu 5.10 be released?
[12:38] <Kimahri> Sonderblade: /topic
[12:38] <glyn> how do I remove programs?  I'm out of disk space and I can't figure out what's taking up so much space
[12:38] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: you used the "expert" install option?
[12:38] <aftertaf> glyn:  type df
[12:38] <Kimahri> thoreauputic: yes, i did.
[12:38] <Seveas> Nvidiot, with one big difference: the wiki doesn't conatain the heaps of errors ubuntuguide has and can be fixed by anyone instead of just one uncooperative editor
[12:38] <aftertaf> see where your disks are being choked.
[12:38] <aftertaf> Sonderblade:  13 oct
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: right - that option enables root (it assumes you know what you are doing)
[12:39] <Nvidiot> Seveas: allright :) Tell me how to get gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse to work then? :)
[12:39] <glyn> which filesystem would ubuntu be?
[12:39] <aftertaf> glyn:  ext2/3
[12:39] <aftertaf> on "/"
[12:39] <Seveas> Nvidiot, by installing them...
[12:39] <Kimahri> thoreauputic: oh well.  i know how to secure systems.  ssh does not allow root to login, and neither does gdm, and it doesn't require a patched sulogin program
[12:39] <glyn> I'm not seeing a ext 2/3
[12:39] <ompaul> aftertaf, 3 is good
[12:39] <Nvidiot> Seveas: at which point apt-get says it can't find it :)
[12:40] <ALOYSIUS> HI, I AM ALOYSIUS. I AM A NOVICE USER.  I HAVE GOT ONE PROBLEM. MY SERIAL MOUSE IS NOT WORKING IN UBUNTU DESKTOP. I APPRETIATE ANY SUGGESTION. THANK YOU
[12:40] <Seveas> Nvidiot, enable multiverse
[12:40] <aftertaf> glyn:  can you paste your df ot a pastebin?
[12:40] <glyn> only /dev/hda2, tmpfs, dev/hda1, /dev, none, and /dev/hdc
[12:40] <Nvidiot> Seveas: I did
[12:40] <Seveas> ALOYSIUS, drop the caps
[12:40] <aftertaf> ALOYSIUS:  dont shout
[12:40] <glyn> how do I paste it into the paste bin?
[12:40] <ompaul> ALOYSIUS, turn off caps lock
[12:40] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[12:40] <Kimahri> ALOYSIUS: check your caps lock
[12:40] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:40] <Nvidiot> I see ALOYSIUS problem... it's a stuck capslock
[12:40] <ALOYSIUS> OK
[12:40] <kbrooks> ALOYSIUS: /nick aloysius
[12:40] <Seveas> !info gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:40] <waxhead> hi everyone
[12:40] <Seveas> !info gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse breezy
[12:41] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse: (All Multiverse GStreamer plugins), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 56 kB
[12:41] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: the sudo option is partly there for newer users - although it works fine for more experienced users as well - it is just "different"
[12:41] <Nvidiot> Seveas: isn't breezy the 'bleeding edge beta' version?
[12:41] <Seveas> Nvidiot, the package appears only in breezy, if you run hoary you need to install the plugins one-by-one
[12:41] <johnnybezak> hey guys, when I do a df -h it says the partition mounted on /home is full but when I check how full /home is in gnome it says it's only got like 7 gigs in there. the partition is 30 gigs big.
[12:41] <Kimahri> thoreauputic: i'm too hardcoded to the traditional superuser model :P although i do admit that the sudo method is good for new users.
[12:41] <Seveas> Nvidiot, it's RC quality
[12:41] <Nvidiot> Seveas: great... how ? :)
[12:41] <Seveas> Nvidiot, install gstreamer0.8-faad gstreamer0.8-mad etc....
[12:41] <glyn> aftertaf>I pasted it onto the pastebin
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: nothing new about sudo - used in many sites sincethe 1980s afaik
[12:42] <Nvidiot> Seveas: gotcha, let me fire up synaptic
[12:42] <kbrooks> thoreauputic: "new users"
[12:42] <kbrooks> read
[12:42] <aftertaf> ok glyn . looking....
[12:42] <Kimahri> thoreauputic: i never said sudo was new :P
[12:42] <clapaucius> hi
[12:42] <ALOYSIUS> Can anyone address my issue?
[12:42] <aaron> how can I change the format of an MP3 to OGG?
[12:43] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: I know - I'll rephrase that - I just was musing that the sudo model has been used for many years :)
[12:43] <aftertaf> glyn:  your root is full dude
[12:43] <aftertaf> glyn:  /dev/hda2              2128180   2084732         0 100% /
[12:43] <glyn> how do I fix that?
[12:43] <Kimahri> aaron: mpg321 <file> | oggenc <opts>
[12:43] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: I should have been more precise :)
[12:43] <aftertaf> glyn:  do you have a lot of crap in home?
[12:43] <aftertaf> glyn:  are you on breezy?
[12:43] <ALOYSIUS> how to enable serial mouse/
[12:43] <aaron> kimahri is their a way to do a full list of mp3's?
[12:44] <kbrooks> my / is not full ;)
[12:44] <glyn> I'm on Hoary
[12:44] <johnnybezak> aaron: in a directory
[12:44] <waxhead> how far off is breezy to being released?
[12:44] <Kimahri> glyn: check to see how full your /var/cache/apt/archives is: du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:44] <glyn> I do have a lot in home, should I move it?
[12:44] <Kimahri> glyn: /topic
[12:44] <aaron> how johnnybezak?
[12:44] <aftertaf> glyn:  yeah, but to a different partition....
[12:44] <johnnybezak> ls *.mp3
[12:44] <waxhead> has anyone changed their sources.lst to breezy yet?
[12:44] <clapaucius> yes
[12:44] <clapaucius> i have
[12:44] <kbrooks> waxhead: it is trivial
[12:44] <aftertaf> Wax:  loads of ud
[12:44] <aftertaf> us
[12:45] <Kimahri> aaron: for i in `ls -1 /path/to/mp3/folder`; do mpg321 <file> | oggenc <options>; done;
[12:45] <aaron> johnny like this? mpg321 *.mp3 | oggenc *.ogg
[12:45] <aftertaf> glyn:  you should get rid of apt cache too i think.
[12:45] <waxhead> so just change hoary to breezy?
[12:45] <Kimahri> !upgrading
[12:45] <ubotu> Kimahri: Not a clue
[12:45] <thoreauputic> !upgrade2breezy
[12:45] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:45] <aaron> how do I get the MP3 plugin?
[12:46] <glyn> 33M     /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:46] <poningru> or
[12:46] <poningru> !breezy
[12:46] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:46] <Kimahri> aaron: should just be able to apt-get install mpg321
[12:46] <aftertaf> glyn:  sudo apt-get clean or autoclean
[12:46] <thoreauputic> poningru: aha - useful thanks :)
[12:46] <aftertaf> 33M isnt a lot.
[12:46] <poningru> :)
[12:46] <aaron> kimahri would that download the mp3 plugin?
[12:46] <kbrooks> !upgrade2warty
[12:46] <ubotu> kbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:46] <aftertaf> glyn:  buy a new hd. you have no room left man....
[12:46] <kbrooks> !upgrade2hoary
[12:46] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, kbrooks
[12:47] <aftertaf> only 10 gig with boh win & linux aint a lot
[12:47] <aaron> what is the ubuntu wiki site?
[12:47] <kbrooks> aaron: wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:47] <poningru> glyn: def or I would keep stuff in cds or something
[12:48] <Kimahri> !tell aaron about mp3
[12:48] <hansi_xp> can someone tell me where to download really cool themes?
[12:48] <poningru> hansi_xp: art.gnome.org
[12:48] <thoreauputic> hansi_xp: as a start >> sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extras
[12:49] <hansi_xp> i think i got/been to both of them two
[12:49] <aaron> what are all the packages for the gnome themes?
[12:49] <hansi_xp> sometimes i see really freaking looking themes
[12:49] <hansi_xp> and i like how did they do that!
[12:49] <johnnybezak> hansi_xp: for gnome or kde? art.gnome.org gnome-look.org
[12:49] <hansi_xp> hnome
[12:49] <thoreauputic> aaron: scroll up
[12:49] <poningru> hansi_xp: you should also look in your repositories
[12:50] <thoreauputic> there are icon packages too, I think...
[12:51] <hansi_xp> what's the best looking theme?
[12:51] <thoreauputic> gnome-extra-icons <<<
[12:51] <thoreauputic> hansi_xp: matter of taste
[12:51] <hansi_xp> whats your favourite theme?
[12:51] <thoreauputic> hansi_xp: I quite like the Amaranth theme
[12:53] <Nvidiot> hey, no gcc in the default install?
[12:53] <locomorto> you can't play H.264 in linux yet right?
[12:53] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: be
[12:53] <HrdwrBob> Nvidiot: no, apt-get install build-essential
[12:53] <locomorto> Nvidiot: build-essential
[12:53] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: install build-essential
[12:53] <Nvidiot> (trying to install sun jre, it complains about missing gcc :))
[12:53] <Nvidiot> okay :)
[12:53] <locomorto> Nvidiot: use java-package and fakeroot
[12:54] <locomorto> it is really easy and creates a .deb for you
[12:54] <poningru> locomorto: yes you can
[12:54] <Nvidiot> locomorto: yeah, the instructions mention that, I will, but I'd like gcc on my box in any case :)
[12:54] <poningru> locomorto: have you tried vlc?
[12:54] <kbrooks> alias install="apt-get install" # this?
[12:54] <locomorto> poningru: I would rather not download 200mb and then find it wont work
[12:55] <poningru> um I dont think vlc is 200 mb
[12:55] <johnnybezak> found my hidden gigabytes they were, wait for it, drumroll please *in the trash*
[12:55] <poningru> but here is the website
[12:55] <locomorto> nono
[12:55] <kbrooks> thoreauputic: alias install="apt-get install" # this?
[12:55] <locomorto> the video file
[12:55] <poningru> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html
[12:55] <poningru> locomorto: oh gotcha
[12:55] <cafuego_> kbrooks: no, 'install' is an actual command.
[12:55] <poningru> locomorto: yeah look under the video codecs
[12:55] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: no, I was referring to an IRC client alias I have in irssi but forgot I didn't have in xchat :)
[12:55] <cafuego_> kbrooks: alias ag='apt-get install'
[12:56] <kbrooks> thoreauputic: I see.
[12:56] <locomorto> hmm experimental
[12:56] <cafuego_> !fiond /usr/bin/install
[12:56] <ubotu> cafuego_: I don't know
[12:56] <cafuego_> !find /usr/bin/install
[12:56] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: in irssi I have "be" as an alias that says "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[12:56] <cafuego_> !be is <reply> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:56] <ubotu> cafuego_: okay
[12:56] <kbrooks> thoreauputic: Hehe.
[12:57] <kbrooks> ubotu: forget be
[12:57] <ubotu> i forgot be, kbrooks
[12:57] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install
[12:57] <aftertaf> yeah :
[12:57] <glyn> nvidiot>What were you having problems with?
[12:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of '/usr/bin/install' returned no results.
[12:57] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: why did you tell the bot to forget that?
[12:57] <aftertaf> !be
[12:57] <ubotu> aftertaf: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:57] <cafuego_> !be is <reply> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:57] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[12:57] <cafuego_> !lock be
[12:57] <ubotu> cafuego_: locking factoid be
[12:57] <kbrooks> thoreauputic: I don't see the point of clutter in the bot
[12:58] <Ng> worst bot ever. /usr/bin/install belongs to coreutils
[12:58] <thoreauputic> cafuego: that'll fix it :)
[12:58] <kbrooks> cafuego_: It's clutter.
[12:58] <poningru> no because !build is already there
[12:58] <Nvidiot> glyn: gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse, but I installed the plugins manually, no problem
[12:58] <kbrooks> !build
[12:58] <ubotu> it has been said that build is sudo apt-get install build-essential, or use the synaptic package manager to install the build-essential package: or ask me about synaptic
[12:58] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: well cafuego owns the bot so tell him...
[12:58] <Ng> also, worst bot ever for being a bloot ;)
[12:58] <kbrooks> !forget be
[12:58] <ubotu> i forgot be, kbrooks
[12:58] <cafuego_> kbrooks: When he fills up i'll presonally rm -rf /var/lib/mysql/blootbot, I promise.
[12:58] <glyn> I couldn't install that either, but I just installed "gstreamer0.8-plugins"
[12:58] <poningru> kbrooks: dude dont go over the head of the guys who owns the bot
[12:58] <kbrooks> cafuego_: use !build from now on
[12:58] <aaron> can anyone tell me how to install the k3b-mp3 package?
[12:58] <glyn> perhaps the multiverse extension under the wiki is broken
[12:59] <johnnybezak> i dont like the bot. it seems so impersonal
[12:59] <aftertaf> aaron:  use synaptic
[12:59] <aftertaf> aaron:  in breezy its a separate package
[12:59] <cafuego_> kbrooks: No, thankyou.
[12:59] <aftertaf> johnnybezak:  yeah, but such a time winner
[12:59] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: erm - are you being a bit presumptuous ?
[12:59] <kbrooks> cafuego_: ok then
[12:59] <aftertaf> glyn:  dont think so
[01:00] <aaron> aftertaf I don't understand. I searched on it. and it says its for the x.org server.
[01:00] <aftertaf> erf
[01:00] <kbrooks> What's python2.4-minimal?
[01:00] <aaron> aftertaf apt-get install synaptic?
[01:00] <aftertaf> aaron:  sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[01:00] <aaron> I tried.
[01:01] <johnnybezak> aftertaf: i suppose :)
[01:01] <aaron> aftertaf the package isn't their
[01:01] <aftertaf> aaron:  in which way did you fail then?
[01:01] <aftertaf> aaron:  hmmm
[01:01] <aftertaf> !info k3b-mp3
[01:01] <kbrooks> aaron: hoary?
[01:01] <aftertaf> !info k3b-mp3 breezy
[01:01] <ubotu> k3b-mp3: (The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.12.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 92 kB
[01:01] <poningru> kbrooks: iirc its without like a shit load of basic libs
[01:01] <kbrooks> !info k3b-mp3 hoary
[01:01] <aftertaf> kbrooks:  dont exist. only in breezy
[01:01] <kbrooks> doesnt exist in hoary
[01:02] <kbrooks> aaron: hoary or breezy?
[01:02] <aaron> I wanted to use "music player" kbrooks.
[01:02] <kbrooks> aaron: Are you on Ubuntu 5.04?
[01:02] <aaron> yes kbrooks.
[01:02] <aftertaf> johnnybezak:  yeah... but think of all the times you'd have to repeat yourself....
[01:02] <kbrooks> aaron: thats why
[01:03] <aaron> ...
[01:03] <thoreauputic> aaron: sudoapt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:03] <aaron> ok
[01:03] <Shin_Gouki> hi question: what do i need to get my Printer: HP DJ 690C workin?
[01:03] <aftertaf> ahhhh; ok.
[01:03] <thoreauputic> aaron: insert a space after sudo ;)
[01:03] <cafuego_> !find bin/install
[01:03] <kbrooks> scrollkeeper is slow.....
[01:03] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  use cups, install local, should have drivers already
[01:03] <kbrooks> What is it?
[01:03] <BooZee> Hello! I searched anywhere and couldn't find the answer: I have two languages on my ubuntu. How can I switch between them (the Alt+Shift action in windows..)
[01:03] <aaron> thireauputic, its not their.
[01:03] <Shin_Gouki> aftertaf: i installed printer-drivers(apt-get install cupsomatic-ppd), do i need to reboot system get things workin?
[01:03] <cafuego_> That's better :-)
[01:04] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  nope.
[01:04] <poningru> BooZee: what do you mean languages?
[01:04] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  you on gnome or kde?
[01:04] <thoreauputic> aaron: then you need more repos
[01:04] <poningru> BooZee: as in your keyboard or your locale?
[01:04] <Shin_Gouki> aftertaf:im on icewm
[01:04] <aftertaf> poningru:  as in locales, i thnk
[01:04] <thoreauputic> !tell aaron about repos
[01:04] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  oki...... :)
[01:04] <poningru> aftertaf: not possible cause windows does not do that iirc
[01:04] <Shin_Gouki> aftertaf:im on icewm,sooo? ^^
[01:04] <poningru> unless it does do that in pro
[01:04] <cafuego_> "21:04.21 tell: target = aaron, query = repos"
[01:04] <BooZee> I mean that my ubuntu is in english, but it's Hebrew enabled..
[01:04] <kbrooks> now to reboot.
[01:04] <poningru> BooZee: you have to log out to do that
[01:04] <aftertaf> poningru:  soooooo right. i'm being dense :/
[01:04] <BooZee> no no..
[01:05] <BooZee> let's say, w
[01:05] <poningru> BooZee: yeah your keyboard
[01:05] <poningru> you dont have to log out for that
[01:05] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  dunno mate.....
[01:05] <egoleo> can't find mysqld.sock
[01:05] <BooZee> oops. Lets say, I want to write in english (like I do know.) and suddenly, I want to write in hebrew
[01:05] <poningru> BooZee: you have to set the shortcut for that
[01:05] <egoleo> can someone help me
[01:05] <BooZee> oh!! how do I do that?
[01:05] <vexa> nick/ co_nafsu
[01:05] <Shin_Gouki> aftertaf, what do u do ongmone after installing drivers??
[01:05] <Shin_Gouki> aftertaf, do u restart?
[01:05] <cafuego_> egoleo: /var/run/mysqld
[01:05] <totally_noob> what is the best app for instant messanging like, and i mean MSN?
[01:06] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  i have "kcmshell printmgr" with kde
[01:06] <BooZee> poningru: how can I set a shortcut ?
[01:06] <egoleo> what
[01:06] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  there are loads
[01:06] <poningru> BooZee: right click on one of your panels
[01:06] <egoleo> is not there
[01:06] <cafuego_> egoleo: That's where mysql.sock lives *IF* the mysql server is running.
[01:06] <totally_noob> aftertaf, i want something not gaim and not amsn please.. something better than them
[01:06] <egoleo> when i try to start mysql
[01:06] <poningru> BooZee: and add to panel
[01:06] <BooZee> if you mean a clickable shortcut, than I already have it.
[01:06] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  kmess, kopete
[01:06] <egoleo> that is the error it gives me
[01:06] <totally_noob> aftertaf, kmess is good?
[01:06] <Shin_Gouki> what service do i need to restart after installing printerdrivers? to get printer workin?
[01:06] <Paradoxx> !format
[01:06] <ubotu> Paradoxx: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:06] <BooZee> I want a keyboard shortcut - like Alt+Shift in windows
[01:07] <totally_noob> aftertaf, i tried kopete and i think kopete is silly
[01:07] <egoleo> it says it can't fine mysqld.sock
[01:07] <totally_noob> aftertaf, kmess is installed by default with ubuntu?
[01:07] <poningru> BooZee: oh
[01:07] <poningru> hmm
[01:07] <cafuego_> egoleo: Then the server isn't starting up.
[01:07] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  kmess aint bad.... its a new package in kde
[01:07] <poningru> hold on
[01:07] <totally_noob> aftertaf, I use gnome :(
[01:07] <yinu> gbuntu
[01:07] <BooZee> thank you!
[01:07] <Paradoxx> hmm, how do i go about formating a partition on my harddrive, so i can use it under linux?
[01:07] <yinu> kbuntu
[01:07] <totally_noob> org@ubuntu:~$ kmess
[01:07] <totally_noob> bash: kmess: command not found
[01:08] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  dont matter. you can still sudo apt-get install  it
[01:08] <totally_noob> aftertaf, do you think it is good?
[01:08] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: You run 'mkfs' on it.
[01:08] <aftertaf> yeah, not bad at all.
[01:08] <thoreauputic> totally_noob: what do you dislike about gaim?
[01:08] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: mkfs -t <fstype>
[01:08] <totally_noob> E: Couldn't find package kmess
[01:08] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  are you looking for a particular IM protocol?
[01:08] <cafuego_> !info kmess
[01:08] <egoleo> so whats really wrong with mysql
[01:09] <Paradoxx> how do i find out where i have it sotred under linux?
[01:09] <cafuego_> totally_noob: There is no such package.
[01:09] <egoleo> that it can't start
[01:09] <Paradoxx> interms of dev/hda?
[01:09] <totally_noob> thoreauputic, I dislike that gaim disconnect alot, + it doesn't notice or flash me when i recieve new msgs, so i have to see the Tab every 5 mins to see my friend if he reply to me, "No flashing" like in fc4
[01:09] <dooglus> Paradoxx: "df <file>"
[01:09] <totally_noob> cafuego, but aftertaf said there is package kmess
[01:09] <cafuego_> egoleo: No idea. Did you install mysql-server? Did you check syslog? And the logfile?
[01:09] <TiMiDo> hey everone
[01:09] <Paradoxx> dooglus: huh?
[01:09] <totally_noob> aftertaf, I want to use MSN thats all, and i dont want gaim or amsn
[01:09] <cafuego_> totally_noob: Not in Ubuntu.
[01:09] <aftertaf> universe repository:  KMess is a MSN Messenger clone for Linux
[01:09] <totally_noob> im asking if there is another than them
[01:09] <totally_noob> cafuego, why not in ubuntu:(
[01:10] <cafuego_> !ino kmess breezy
[01:10] <ubotu> cafuego_: What?
[01:10] <hansi_xp> does somebody know how to get like transparent windows?
[01:10] <dooglus> Paradoxx: you have files on your drive, and you want to know the path to the device?
[01:10] <aftertaf> hansi_xp:  windows cleaner ;)
[01:10] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Not according to the package lists on the bot.
[01:10] <totally_noob> any opinions
[01:10] <TiMiDo> hansi_xp, aterm ;P
[01:10] <aftertaf> cafuego:  i have it on ly pc.
[01:10] <heatxsink> hello all
[01:10] <silent_scream> my problem is: i want to install a package with synaptic package manager, and when it asks the install cd  of ubuntu, and i put in the cd, it continues to ask me for the cd.. as if it doesn't recognize it!!!
[01:10] <kbrooks> Yay. :)
[01:11] <totally_noob> People
[01:11] <kbrooks> GNOME 2.10 is REALLY nice.
[01:11] <kbrooks> 2.12
[01:11] <Paradoxx> dooglus: no, i have a partition on a hard drive, use to use it in windowns, i have cleared the stuff off it, and now wanna format it, and use it under linux
[01:11] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Not in the package lists on my machines either.
[01:11] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Did you install an external .deb?
[01:11] <Shin_Gouki> hi i need a gui ICQ Client for Icewm , ideas?
[01:11] <totally_noob> kbrooks, does it make the tabs flash? I mean in gaim if you recieve new msg does it flash?
[01:11] <aftertaf> cafuego:  nope....  just on kde 3.5 beta
[01:11] <Kimahri> cafuego_: all you have to do is enable the universe repository, then apt-get install kmess or something like that.
[01:11] <dooglus> Paradoxx: fdisk -l /dev/hda will list the partitions on /dev/hda
[01:11] <kbrooks> totally_noob: no idea
[01:12] <totally_noob> :(
[01:12] <poningru> BooZee: sorry dude I dont know
[01:12] <cafuego_> Kimahri: I have those enabled, but no 'kmess'
[01:12] <kbrooks> totally_noob: YES
[01:12] <BooZee> damn... well thank you anyway.
[01:12] <totally_noob> kbrooks, what yes?
[01:12] <totally_noob> kbrooks, I want to install like your gnome
[01:12] <kbrooks> i loaded add applications and it flashed!
[01:12] <totally_noob> i have 2.10.0
[01:12] <totally_noob> kbrooks, AHA cool
[01:12] <totally_noob> but i have gnome 2.10.0
[01:12] <totally_noob> what about you
[01:12] <heatxsink> how would I add this source to my sources.list ?  http://3demi.net/debian/debs/
[01:13] <Paradoxx> ok, it is /dev/hde5
[01:13] <cafuego_> The only match is "kmessedwords".
[01:13] <kbrooks> totally_noob: don't do it. 2.12 is included in breezy
[01:13] <hansi_xp> TiMiDo: thanks
[01:13] <Kimahri> totally_noob: i believe gnome 2.12.0 is for breezy.  hoary shipped with 2.10.0
[01:13] <TiMiDo> np hansi_xp
[01:13] <locomorto> Gnome 2.12 is indeed in breezy
[01:13] <antisocialboris> how do i set up wine?
[01:13] <cafuego_> aftertaf: WILL YOUS TOP FUCKING SPAMMING ME!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:13] <totally_noob> kbrooks, yes i know
[01:13] <Paradoxx> its a NTFS partition, how do i go about formating it into ext3 or whatever partition you recommend
[01:13] <totally_noob> kbrooks, what is your gnome version,, you just said that it flashed.
[01:13] <locomorto> Nautilus kicks arse in 2.12
[01:13] <aftertaf> cafuego:  you get my PM?
[01:13] <kbrooks> totally_noob: 2.12
[01:14] <locomorto> Paradoxx: use qtparted
[01:14] <Kimahri> cafuego_: language maybe?  i don't know the actual rules about language in this channel though
[01:14] <locomorto> Paradoxx: ITs like partion magic
[01:14] <silent_scream> i want to install a package with synaptic package manager, and when it asks the install cd  of ubuntu, and i put in the cd, it continues to ask me for the cd.. as if it doesn't recognize it!!! any ideas?
[01:14] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Yes, an duie to that shite I'll add you to /ignore now. Perhapd you could use a paste site next time.
[01:14] <locomorto> silent_screem: go into settings -> repositories
[01:14] <totally_noob> kbrooks, you have 2.12?
[01:14] <locomorto> silent_screem: And turn off the cd
[01:14] <Shin_Gouki> hi is it possible to run gaim on icewm?
[01:14] <Paradoxx> locomorto: isn't there another way to do it, without having to d/l another app
[01:14] <cafuego_> Kimahri: yes, I know. 100 lines of pasted crud later you'll be annoyed too ;-)
[01:14] <totally_noob> but a friend of mine have gnome 2.10.0-5 and his things flashs
[01:14] <locomorto> silent_screem: Then hit reload and you'll be good to go
[01:15] <aftertaf> do what you like. i was trying to give you information . on PM.
[01:15] <kbrooks> totally_noob: in breezy
[01:15] <locomorto> Paradoxx: I don't think so
[01:15] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: of course, yes
[01:15] <totally_noob> huh
[01:15] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Check the rules on uninvited PMs and be amazed.
[01:15] <totally_noob> kbrooks, ok
[01:15] <Kimahri> Paradoxx: mke2fs -j /dev/<whatever device it is>
[01:15] <locomorto> Shin_Gouki: of course
[01:15] <kbrooks> totally_noob: new windows that open flash
[01:15] <Shin_Gouki> thx!
[01:15] <Paradoxx> Kimahri: will that make a ext2 or ext3 partition?
[01:15] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Ask first, THEN paste.
[01:15] <Kimahri> Paradoxx: ext3
[01:15] <thoreauputic> !+msg
[01:15] <ubotu> please don't /msg people or start a personal message/ dcc chat without asking first in channel. People might be busy, and you have a better chance of an answer in the channel. Don't assume a particular user will be able to help you.
[01:15] <totally_noob> guys how to checkout on a package that is already installed in my system, i mean i want to see what version do i have installed here.. like when i was in fc4 i do "rpm -qa gaim" for example on gaim... whats that in ubuntu plz?
[01:15] <totally_noob> kbrooks, yes
[01:16] <totally_noob> kbrooks, also gaim when it recieve new msgs
[01:16] <totally_noob> kbrooks, I want to have like your gnome
[01:16] <bimberi> totally_noob: dpkg -l <package>
[01:16] <silent_scream> thanx locomorto but why this happens?
[01:16] <kbrooks> totally_noob: i dont know how, other than upgrade to breezy
[01:16] <antisocialboris> can anyone help me either get jre working or wine
[01:16] <antisocialboris> ?
[01:16] <kbrooks> bimberi: dont advise people to mix hoary and breezy
[01:16] <locomorto> silent_scream: I'm not sure, but I hate the CD thing anyway so its better for you in the long run
[01:17] <totally_noob> bimberi, what is dpkg?
[01:17] <Kimahri> antisocialboris: check http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on installing j2re
[01:17] <bimberi> kbrooks: eh?
[01:17] <Paradoxx> Kimahri: do i have to add the partition to the fstab or somthing like that, so it will automatically mount on boot?
[01:17] <locomorto> totally_noob: its the little thing that installs everything for you
[01:17] <antisocialboris> ok, cheers
[01:17] <locomorto> totally_noob: apt-* just messes around with it
[01:17] <totally_noob> kbrooks, are you using breezy?
[01:17] <bimberi> totally_noob: "a medium-level package manager for Debian"
[01:17] <kbrooks> totally_noob: i am
[01:17] <totally_noob> bimberi, Cool
[01:17] <totally_noob> locomorto, that installs everything for me?
[01:18] <kbrooks> totally_noob: ummm
[01:18] <Kimahri> Paradoxx: i'm not that familiar with hal+dbus which is used in ubuntu, which keeps tabs on the fstab file, so i don't know
[01:18] <totally_noob> bimberi, I can't use grep on that right? I just did "dpkg -l gnome"
[01:18] <locomorto> totally_noob: Anything in .deb form
[01:18] <totally_noob> and it doesnt' give me anything
[01:18] <Paradoxx> kk
[01:18] <kbrooks> totally_noob: listen
[01:18] <totally_noob> can i use "dpkg -l | grep gnome"
[01:18] <totally_noob> ?
[01:18] <locomorto> totally_noob: If you use apt-get, your using dpkg you just probably dont see it
[01:18] <totally_noob> kbrooks, yes sir.
[01:18] <kbrooks> apt <=> dpkg
[01:18] <heatxsink> how would I add this source to my sources.list ?  http://3demi.net/debian/debs/
[01:18] <totally_noob> dpkg is the same as apt?
[01:18] <Paradoxx> how do i set a partition to mount automatically on boot?
[01:18] <locomorto> no
[01:18] <Kimahri> totally_noob: apt is a frontend to dpkg
[01:18] <kbrooks> totally_noob: dpkg is a low level interface to apt
[01:18] <totally_noob> locomorto, i see
[01:18] <totally_noob> so it's an alias
[01:18] <kbrooks> totally_noob: no
[01:19] <Kimahri> kbrooks: it's the other way around.  apt calls dpkg
[01:19] <kbrooks> totally_noob: not a symlink or anything
[01:19] <locomorto> basically apt is a really cool front end to dpkg making it really really easy to use and powefull
[01:19] <locomorto> and synaptic adds a GUI to apt
[01:19] <sorush20> hi.. guys I have fed computer up again..
[01:19] <iru> heat: edit /etc/apt/apt.sources
[01:19] <cafuego_> According to packages.ubuntu.com, kmess is not in Hoary, only in breezy.
[01:19] <poningru> !tell heatxsink about repos
[01:19] <locomorto> so basically everything builds on each other
[01:19] <totally_noob> ok
[01:19] <totally_noob> but i said i want to see the package That is already installed
[01:20] <kbrooks> locomorto: apt downloads and passes the .deb on the local machine to dpkg
[01:20] <totally_noob> not to findout a package available online
[01:20] <kbrooks> which does "all of the work"
[01:20] <locomorto> totally_noob: synaptic should do this for you
[01:20] <sorush20> right.. i configured xserver-xorg using the dpkg-reconfigure command, and what actually happened is that now i KEEP getting monior out of range..
[01:20] <egoleo> still mysql problem
[01:20] <sorush20> can somone help please..
[01:20] <heatxsink> poningru:  thank you
[01:20] <locomorto> System -> Adminstration -> synaptic
[01:20] <totally_noob> locomorto, I don't want a gui
[01:20] <poningru> heatxsink: np
[01:20] <totally_noob> locomorto, I want a simple command to check on a simple package
[01:20] <locomorto> Then go status -> Installed
[01:20] <Kimahri> totally_noob: then apt-get install aptitude and use that from the cli
[01:20] <cafuego_> sorush20: Did you try to tell it what the sync ranges of your screen sare?
[01:21] <cafuego_> totally_noob: dpkg -l <packagename>
[01:21] <bimberi> totally_noob: yes (to "can i use "dpkg -l | grep gnome")
[01:21] <egoleo> can't find mysqld.sock
[01:21] <Nvidiot> hmm, amarok can't use smb:// urls I see. I'll have to mount the folder then I suppose?
[01:21] <egoleo> it was working fine on hoary
[01:21] <totally_noob> bimberi, thanks
[01:21] <totally_noob> cafuego, ok thanks alot
[01:21] <egoleo> but is not working any more on breezy
[01:21] <Paradoxx> how do i set a partition to automatically mount at startup?
[01:21] <sorush20> cafuego I DON'T KNOW what the ranges are I guess I have to look it up on the computer..
[01:21] <Nvidiot> Paradoxx: edit /etc/fstab
[01:21] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: add it to /etc/fstab
[01:21] <Paradoxx> how?
[01:22] <aftertaf> Paradoxx:  have you managed to mount it manually?
[01:22] <cafuego_> sorush20: Well, ideally you'd tell the script you wanted 'Simple' configuration and choose a screen size and resolution only.
[01:22] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: via your favourite text editor and sudo.
[01:23] <Paradoxx> aftertaf: nope..i just formatted it awhile ago
[01:23] <poningru> !tell Paradoxx about mount
[01:23] <locomorto> Paradocc: man mount || man fstab
[01:23] <aftertaf> Paradoxx:  oki ;)  do you know how to mount manually?
[01:23] <jip> dmesg shows "cx88[0] : subsystem: 0070:9002, board: Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T [card=18,autodetected] ", but scan can't still find my the card. any idea how to install this card correctly?
[01:23] <poningru> aftertaf: dont worry I took care of it
[01:23] <aftertaf> locomorto:  yeah. but if he's new, a man file isnt gonna help much
[01:23] <locomorto> why not?
[01:23] <Necron> I have a mind to try out Ubuntu, but should i wait for the 5.10 release or download 5.4?
[01:24] <locomorto> Necron: go striaght to 5.10
[01:24] <poningru> jip: what have you tried so far?
[01:24] <Kimahri> Necron: i'd just go straight to 5.10
[01:24] <Shin_Gouki> hi i need a gui winrar/winzip client is there such?
[01:24] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: There;'s going to be an entry for / already in fstab. just sue that as example. All you need to do is change column 1 and column2.
[01:24] <Nvidiot> do not pass start, do not collect $100, go straight to 5.10 ;)
[01:24] <kbrooks> Necron: 5.04
[01:24] <Necron> I read a review saying 5.10 had a good deal of trouble...
[01:24] <locomorto> Shin_Gouki: file_roller for gnome ark for kde
[01:24] <kbrooks> not 5.4
[01:24] <aftertaf> locomorto:  just my opinion...man ages are for linux-familiar people
[01:24] <totally_noob> now i still need something to use msn with
[01:24] <Shin_Gouki> locomorto, and for icewm?
[01:24] <Kimahri> Necron: Breezy is RC quality now... in fact, it's slated for release in 9 days...
[01:24] <poningru> jip: you still there?
[01:25] <cafuego_> totally_noob: apt-cache search 'msn' - pick one of the ones listed.
[01:25] <locomorto> same as gnome
[01:25] <Paradoxx> cafuego huh?
[01:25] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  try using gaim and modifying the prefs you dont like.
[01:25] <abyss_> !repositories
[01:25] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[01:25] <jip> poningru, tried makedev-dvb.sh-script with no success. it creates the filesystem, but scan complains: main:1882: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 2 No such file or directory
[01:25] <kbrooks> Kimahri: rc is slated to release october 6
[01:25] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: In fstab. Just use the line for / as example.
[01:25] <Kimahri> kbrooks: it's RC quality... i never said it's an RC
[01:25] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: You'll need to change the device file (col 1) and the mount point (col 2)
[01:25] <Necron> Another questions: when a new release comes out(6.4) do i have to format or is there an update system?
[01:25] <poningru> jip: is it actually there?
[01:25] <Zeke1> what is the better file sharing program in linux?
[01:25] <bhanet> may i ask 4 help?? i have trouble setting up my printer for ubuntu
[01:25] <poningru> jip: hold on
[01:25] <kbrooks> Kimahri: i know
[01:25] <cafuego_> Necron: it cna be transparently upgraded.
[01:26] <poningru> jip: what kinda vid card is it?
[01:26] <Shin_Gouki> hi i need an unzip programm for shell? name, apt?
[01:26] <totally_noob> aftertaf, I don't like alot of things in gaim
[01:26] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install  unzip
[01:26] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, unzip is you're friend
[01:26] <jip> poningru, Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T
[01:26] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[01:26] <Paradoxx> cafuego k
[01:26] <Shin_Gouki> & rar?
[01:26] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, unrar
[01:26] <Shin_Gouki> kk
[01:26] <TiMiDo> sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:26] <Shin_Gouki> thx!!
[01:26] <totally_noob> cafuego, i have to be root for doing that?
[01:26] <Necron> Last question for today: any place where a pretty advanced computer user can start learning linux? no one uses it around here
[01:26] <bhanet> anyone here who could help me pls?
[01:26] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  you really have a lot of choice..... try all of them and keep the one you like moset
[01:26] <cafuego_> totally_noob: To search? No. To install, yes.
[01:27] <aftertaf> Necron:  you're in the right place already....
[01:27] <N6REJ> hello everyone.  I have what is probably the dumbest question, but I've forgotten alot.  I'm trying to setup a server on a dsl connection behind a hardware router.  I have my own domain that resolves to the router and any windoze boxes fine.  I'm installing Ubuntu for the first time.  Its asking me my "hostname"  Is that anyname like windows does? or the FQDN?  i.e. adam.cogyfarm.com ?
[01:27] <Nvidiot> Necron: start playing with a livecd, read tutorials on how to do stuff, install it on your machine, read, read read :)
[01:27] <TiMiDo> true Nvidiot
[01:27] <kbrooks> Nvidiot++
[01:27] <Nvidiot> I read manpages when I'm bored (but I'm a bit weird like that)
[01:27] <Necron> did Slackware and Ubuntu live CDs, liked them. but didn't experiment too much because there was no setting saving
[01:27] <totally_noob> aftertaf, :(
[01:27] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  hostname, but not FQDN
[01:28] <totally_noob> i'm installing ayttm
[01:28] <cafuego_> N6REJ: anyname. Try "cthulhu" ;-)
[01:28] <Necron> any good webpage for tutorials? most of that i find seems to be Bash(command line?) stuff
[01:28] <N6REJ> aftertaf: so just say "adam"?  or "cogyfarm.com"?
[01:28] <Skid> N6REJ: adam.
[01:28] <cafuego_> N6REJ: "adam" in that case.
[01:28] <N6REJ> ok, coool.. ty.
[01:28] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  adam.... you'll get the chance for domain name after ;)
[01:28] <N6REJ> ok.
[01:29] <Nvidiot> Necron; because pretty much everything can be configured command-line style. The rest is all added niceities
[01:29] <N6REJ> I did have Engarde in there, but for some reason I keep getting my routers, web interface NOT the apache park page.
[01:29] <Necron> why did the linux lords not just implement the dos command style? at least most people were familiar with that...:(
[01:29] <N6REJ> can anyone tell me if they get anything here? http://www.cogyfarm.com
[01:29] <poningru> jip: have you run /etc/udev/scripts/inputdev.sh yet?
[01:29] <mahangu> Necron, are you kidding me>
[01:29] <cafuego_> Necron: Why did DOS fuck up the UNIX commands like linux has?
[01:29] <aftertaf> Necron:  lol.....  shell was before DOS iirc
[01:30] <thoreauputic> Necron: because nix was before DOS
[01:30] <mahangu> Necron, UNIX was around years before DOS
[01:30] <mahangu> lol
[01:30] <mahangu> what an outburst
[01:30] <thoreauputic> Necron: DOS is an abominaion
[01:30] <mahangu> LD
[01:30] <Nvidiot> once you get used to it, you start typing 'ls' in windows cmd.exe boxes
[01:30] <poningru> um decades
[01:30] <Necron> sorry:D didn't want to cause so much trouble:D any good page to learn?
[01:30] <N6REJ> yep, dos came from unix via CPM
[01:30] <jip> poningru, nope
[01:30] <aftertaf> DOS = Denial Of Shell
[01:30] <cafuego_> Necron: If you prefer dos commands, may I recommend a VMS system? :-)
[01:30] <N6REJ> I do that alot nvidiot, and windoze goes, HUH?
[01:30] <mahangu> aftertaf, lol
[01:30] <crimsun> argh
[01:30] <Skid> lol
[01:30] <Nvidiot> N6REJ: I made a batchfile :P
[01:30] <N6REJ> lol
[01:31] <poningru> jip: yeah I think you have to run that before the *-dvb.sh
[01:31] <N6REJ> good idea LOL
[01:31] <jip> hmm
[01:31] <kbrooks> ME == Denial of DOS (DDOS)
[01:31] <cafuego_> I give you 5 minutes, tops, before you're stabbing yourself in the eyeballs with a spoon.
[01:32] <Necron> any good place to learn bash?
[01:32] <Nvidiot> I've amazed myself yesterday by installing Ubuntu from a knoppix-std cdrom... that was fun, poking stuff :)
[01:32] <aftertaf> Nvidiot:  yeah..... the other day i tried  " [ESC]  :wq  " in notepad .... :)
[01:32] <crimsun> good golly.
[01:32] <N6REJ> so how is ubuntu anyway?  I dl'd badgy?
[01:32] <Nvidiot> Necron: google 'bash tutorial' or 'bash beginners' or so
[01:32] <thoreauputic> Necron: http://tuxfiles.org
[01:32] <N6REJ> or breeezy
[01:32] <N6REJ> what ever its called
[01:32] <cafuego_> N6REJ: breezy badger (one and the same)
[01:32] <crimsun> this is becoming ridiculous.
[01:32] <aftertaf> +r ?    :/
[01:32] <kbrooks> +r should be set.
[01:32] <Nvidiot> aftertaf: hehe, I'm starting to get the hang of vi(m)
[01:33] <cafuego_> +i
[01:33] <aftertaf> lol me to....
[01:33] <N6REJ> your into S&M I see Nv
[01:33] <mahangu> vim still baffles me
[01:33] <mahangu> i sue nano mostly
[01:33] <Nvidiot> (I'm a emacs user mostly)
[01:33] <mahangu> *use even
[01:33] <N6REJ> nano/pico :D
[01:33] <aftertaf> vim is cool :)
[01:33] <thoreauputic> !start an editor war
[01:33] <ubotu> kate is better than xemacs
[01:33] <poningru> gaaaah
[01:33] <mahangu> PICO
[01:33] <N6REJ> lol
[01:33] <aftertaf> for those 'X just set your gfx card on fire' moments,
[01:33] <poningru> EMACS
[01:33] <thoreauputic> !ed
[01:33] <ubotu> ed is the standard editor! ed, man! man ed!
[01:34] <N6REJ> Personally I LOVE PFE but they didn't make it for *nix
[01:34] <Nvidiot> once you know: hit 'i' to type stuff, then ESC ESC ESC to type ':q!' or ':wq' you're set :)
[01:34] <Nvidiot> ubotu: edlin!
[01:34] <ubotu> Nvidiot: Wish i knew
[01:34] <aftertaf> Nvidiot:  totally :)
[01:34] <poningru> !emacs
[01:34] <ubotu> poningru: Wish i knew
[01:34] <poningru> wtf
[01:34] <poningru> !emac
[01:34] <ubotu> poningru: I haven't a clue
[01:34] <aftertaf> !vim
[01:34] <ubotu> aftertaf: What?
[01:34] <bimberi> thoreauputic: stop adding fuel... :)
[01:34] <aftertaf> sacrilege............
[01:34] <thoreauputic> bimberi: heh
[01:35] <jip> poningru, can't get it working :(
[01:35] <cafuego_> !start an editor war
[01:35] <ubotu> kate is better than emacs
[01:35] <poningru> jip: hmm what does it say?
[01:35] <Nvidiot> lol, nice bot
[01:36] <jip> nothing
[01:36] <N6REJ> how is ubuntu anyway?  good for an old fart who can't remember half of what he use to know?
[01:36] <cafuego_> N6REJ: gui, desktop focused, easy.
[01:36] <N6REJ> I LOVE engarde, but for some reason, I can't configure the new 3.0 like I used to the older stuff.
[01:37] <N6REJ> any security gotcha's?
[01:37] <cafuego_> N6REJ: Not by default, no.
[01:37] <Whistler> N6REJ ubuntu is wonderful
[01:37] <N6REJ> cool
[01:37] <N6REJ> thats what I read so I thought I'd try it.
[01:37] <Whistler> it really yeasy to use. Even my mother can use it
[01:37] <N6REJ> brb adam is calling me
[01:37] <Nvidiot> now... this is probably going to be tricky, but I'd like to get hibernate/suspend working on my laptop. Where would I start ?
[01:38] <sorush20> is there an open source pdf viewer for windows,,
[01:38] <N6REJ> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:38] <N6REJ> adam barfed!!!
[01:38] <aftertaf> sorush20:  loads
[01:38] <Whistler> sorush20 xpdf
[01:38] <N6REJ> base system won't install
[01:38] <Skid> i wrote a pdf viewer in vb once
[01:38] <Skid> man
[01:38] <Skid> school was fun :] 
[01:38] <Paradoxx> hmm, how do i change ownership of a mount to my user?
[01:38] <Paradoxx> to current user rather..
[01:38] <poningru> jip: in your /proc/bus/input/devices
[01:38] <Whistler> Paradoxx chown
[01:38] <Skid> `chown' - Paradoxx
[01:38] <Whistler> :)
[01:38] <poningru> is there ia dvb|saa7134
[01:39] <N6REJ> p2 333 with 384mb ram, any special install flags?
[01:39] <poningru> a*
[01:39] <ivanoats> does anyone know where to download QT Designer?
[01:39] <jip> poningru, nope. only my keyboard, mouse and speaker
[01:39] <crimsun> apologies for the upcoming [slow]  flood
[01:39] <poningru> jip: hmm ic
[01:39] <cafuego_> N6REJ: Nope, should be fine.
[01:39] <jip> poningru, do you know what specific modules should be loaded?
[01:39] <aftertaf> ivanoats:  sudo apt-get install
[01:39] <N6REJ> hmmmmmmmmmm.......
[01:39] <poningru> jip: dont know trying to look through forums and mailing lists
[01:40] <poningru> http://www.pvrguide.no-ip.com/bbs-old/viewtopic.php?t=28843
[01:40] <N6REJ> let me try just a plain jane "ENTER" and see what that does.
[01:40] <antisocialboris> whoever told me to check out http:/wiki.ub... for java thanks a lot, just got it working
[01:40] <Skid> crimsun: are you part of the ubuntu team/prject?
[01:40] <crimsun> Skid: I'm a MOTU
[01:40] <Skid> which means..? :P
[01:40] <crimsun> we're the universe and multiverse maintainers
[01:40] <aftertaf> ivanoats:  but dont know name of package
[01:40] <Skid> ah
[01:40] <ivanoats> aftertaf - how do you find out the correct name of the package
[01:40] <Skid> oh that's cool
[01:40] <Skid> mind if I pm?
[01:40] <Skid> you may have an idea ;] 
[01:41] <aftertaf> ivanoats:  try in synaptic.....
[01:41] <Skid> (re usages, not help like)
[01:41] <ScatterBrain> Skid: MOTU = Masters Of The Universe.
[01:41] <Skid> ahh, heman!
[01:41] <crimsun> Skid: if it's universe/multiverse-related, we have #ubuntu-motu
[01:41] <Paradoxx> so then to change owner it would b... chown -r Paradoxx /e
[01:41] <N6REJ> www.trolltech.com for QTD
[01:41] <Paradoxx> ??
[01:41] <ivanoats> aftertaf - yeah, did a search there, I think I need to add something to my sources? but where? Trolltech site is slightly useless
[01:41] <ivanoats> no download link
[01:41] <Skid> well, I may be looking to offload some transit - so was thinking of running a UK mirror service
[01:41] <aftertaf> !tell ivanoats about repositories
[01:41] <N6REJ> freshmeat.net?
[01:41] <poningru> jip: hold on
[01:42] <Skid> but was wondeirng how much (upper bound) transit they normally use
[01:42] <Skid> I dont mirror anything currently
[01:42] <ivanoats> good idea, checking freshmeat
[01:42] <Skid> i can't find owt on the ubuntu site, with regard to offering services either
[01:42] <Paradoxx> to change owner of a mount it would b... chown -r Paradoxx /e?
[01:43] <Skid> Paradoxx: that'd recursively change the whole contents of /e to the user 'paradoxx' yeah
[01:43] <kbrooks> So far so good
[01:44] <N6REJ> try this..... http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=qt&section=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
[01:44] <kbrooks> my system is up to date XD
[01:44] <Paradoxx> :D
[01:44] <Paradoxx> mission complete :D
[01:44] <Paradoxx> damn i love Linux...
[01:44] <Nvidiot> where would I start to get hibernate/suspend working on my laptop?
[01:45] <crimsun> Nvidiot: Hoary or Breezy?
[01:46] <N6REJ> "erase entire disk and partition" OR "erase entire disk and partition with LVM"?
[01:46] <Nvidiot> crimsun: 5.04, not the upcoming release
[01:46] <poningru> jip: do you knowwhat chipset is on that card dude?
[01:46] <Nvidiot> crimsun: if I should update to the upcoming one because it's much better, I don't have a problem with doing that if you'd tell me how :)
[01:47] <ivanoats> N6REJ thanks - I also searched "qt designer" - maybe qt designer is not gpl but there are two projects that may be similar
[01:47] <kbrooks> Nice
[01:47] <kbrooks> "About me" in breezy
[01:47] <crimsun> Nvidiot: you'd have to dump in a lot of infrastructure to get it working with Hoary, more than likely. It's better to try dist-upgrading to Breezy.
[01:47] <N6REJ> it used to be :(  sorry I couldn't help more
[01:47] <Nvidiot> crimsun: allright, no problem. Link? :)
[01:47] <poningru> jip: did you look through these?
[01:47] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//NovaTHowTo
[01:48] <kbrooks> I'd like a webserver that can be completely configured by a GUI
[01:48] <kbrooks> Ideas?
[01:48] <Nvidiot> at least now I use my 10 mbit link :P
[01:48] <N6REJ> do I want to partition with or without LVM?
[01:48] <Nvidiot> kbrooks: apache + webmin or so?
[01:48] <cafuego_> try a lobotomy
[01:48] <Zeke1> anybody know of a good file sharing prog?
[01:48] <jip> poningru, dmesg says Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T. WinTV
[01:48] <cafuego_> N6REJ: without
[01:48] <N6REJ> k
[01:48] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: no web, just a full GUI
[01:48] <BlueEagle> zeke1: proftpd?
[01:48] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: running in ubuntu
[01:49] <jip> poningru, cx88 obviously
[01:49] <kbrooks> like they have in i.e. redhat
[01:49] <Zeke1> Blue-Box, cool...another problem is i cant seem to get DVD's to play?
[01:49] <Nvidiot> kbrooks: oof, beats me. I just go trough the apache config file. it's not rocket science
[01:49] <cafuego_> kbrooks: Why would you run a potentially buggy root-holey GUI on a webserver machine?
[01:49] <N6REJ> yeah, webmin is the best way to go, just be sure to READ and keep it updated.
[01:49] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: ok, so you win
[01:49] <poningru> jip: did you look at that page I linked to?
[01:49] <kbrooks> and how do i remove all packages that *I* have installed
[01:50] <BlueEagle> jip: did you try http://www.google.com/search?q=Hauppauge+Nova-T+DVB-T.+WinTV+linux ?
[01:50] <crimsun> Nvidiot: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[01:50] <Nvidiot> crimsun: thanks
[01:51] <jip> BlueEagle, yes. been searching google for couple of hours now
[01:51] <Nvidiot> crimsun: /BreezyUpgrade seems to have info too :)
[01:51] <N6REJ> wahooooo.... 6% installed LOL
[01:51] <jip> poningru, the one about inputdev.sh? that's about the remote controller right?
[01:51] <poningru> no dude
[01:51] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NovaTHowTo] 
[01:52] <jip> missed that link :P thanks. ima check it out
[01:52] <prower> I assume that one should probably wait until the 13th before upgrading to breezy on a stable machine :>
[01:52] <cafuego_> prower: That depends on how stable you want it.
[01:52] <poningru> jip: it seems you have to recompile your kernel with that
[01:53] <poningru> you sure you are upto it?
[01:53] <jip> damn. that sucks
[01:53] <cafuego_> prower: If it's a production box, wait for a month after that even.
[01:53] <poningru> cause I would just wait the 9 days and upgrade to breezy and have it run out of the box
[01:53] <jip> yeah sure, but i wonder is there a way without compiling
[01:53] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NovatBreezyHowto
[01:53] <poningru> jip: see what I mean
[01:54] <N6REJ> would someone tell me please if they get any kind of a webpage if they go to http://www.cogyfarm.com  you shouldn't yet, I just want to make sure.
[01:54] <jip> hmm
[01:55] <N6REJ> either you'll get nothing, or my router ( EEEK)
[01:55] <poningru> N6REJ: none
[01:55] <N6REJ> whew!
[01:55] <N6REJ> k
[01:55] <prower> cafuego_: Ahh, got it...well, I more or less meant "stable" as in installing the final version rather than one of the Colony releases :>
[01:55] <N6REJ> ty!
[01:55] <N6REJ> everytime I do it, I see my router config page and it freaks me out.
[01:55] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  network errer :)
[01:55] <jip> poningru, mmkay
[01:56] <Shin_Gouki> how do i start ALSA setup from shell?
[01:56] <N6REJ> DARN IT!!!! still get a "bootstap error"
[01:56] <Whistler> anyone else having probs with update?
[01:56] <Whistler> on breezy
[01:56] <aftertaf> nope Whistler what's your pb?
[01:56] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: what's the issue?
[01:57] <N6REJ> good md5 but bad install on breezy, should I fall back to hoary?
[01:57] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, plz the command for ALSA setup on shell , i have no sound i think its realated to that
[01:57] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[01:57] <Whistler> http://pastebin.com/382554
[01:58] <aftertaf> looking Whistler
[01:58] <Whistler> its something with gedit
[01:58] <Nvidiot> gotta love your own isp mirroring ubuntu :) 1+ mbyte/sec downloads :D
[01:59] <N6REJ> sweet!
[01:59] <aftertaf> Whistler:  nasty....  try       sudo apt-get -f install
[01:59] <jip> poningru, hmm. so if i install breezy preview version, it will work?
[01:59] <poningru> jip: yep
[01:59] <Whistler> aftertaf i get the same error
[01:59] <aftertaf> jip:  yep. works for a lot of us already
[01:59] <aftertaf> Whistler:  package maybe borked then... im on kde
[02:00] <Whistler> aftertaf k thx ill try to update later
[02:00] <_BIJ_> hi@all
[02:00] <jip> so what's the easiest way to upgrade to breezy without downloading the image?
[02:00] <aftertaf> Whistler:  dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archive/fullpackagename.deb maybe??
[02:00] <apokryphos> jip: /msg ubotu upgrade2breezy
[02:01] <Nvidiot> jip: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:01] <jip> \o/
[02:01] <_BIJ_> i need some information about the new release...
[02:01] <Paradoxx> how do you remove a package that you have installed via command line?
[02:01] <jip> thanks guys
[02:01] <aftertaf> Paradoxx:  apt-get remove
[02:01] <_BIJ_> apt-get remove
[02:01] <d33p> how do I pass my linux ubuntu partitions from ext2 to ext3?
[02:01] <apokryphos> Paradoxx: very vague; what package, and with what?
[02:02] <aftertaf> lol apokryphos :)
[02:02] <Paradoxx> it was a .deb that i installed
[02:02] <Paradoxx> and i wanna remove it now
[02:02] <d33p> my gnome desktop isn't refreshing correctly, move files out of the desktop to other folders and they "look" as if they were there but they aren't
[02:02] <heatxsink> poningru:  ?
[02:02] <apokryphos> Paradoxx: apt is fine then, or even dpkg
[02:02] <heatxsink> poningru:  I'm running breezy and that didn't quite work right
[02:03] <poningru> heatxsink: ?
[02:03] <catfox> d33p, make sure you have gamin or fam running
[02:03] <poningru> heatxsink: wait what exactly happend?
[02:03] <heatxsink> poningru:  for some reason I couldn't access the same screens
[02:03] <Whistler> can anyone remind me where sources.list is located?
[02:03] <Whistler> i allways forget
[02:03] <Nvidiot> Whistler: /etc/apt/
[02:04] <aftertaf> /etc/apt/
[02:04] <Whistler> thx
[02:04] <avalost> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:04] <poningru> heatxsink: what do you meant the same screens?
[02:04] <Nvidiot> you can of course type 'locate sources.list' :)
[02:04] <avalost> woah, lag
[02:04] <aftertaf> fair point Nvidiot
[02:05] <avalost> sheesh, ever other day there's a new kernel out..
[02:05] <avalost> every, rather
[02:05] <heatxsink> nm
[02:05] <heatxsink> moron
[02:05] <sorush20> is there an open source firewall around
[02:05] <avalost> sorush20, yes, tons
[02:05] <aftertaf> sorush20:  loads
[02:06] <aftertaf> :))
[02:06] <avalost> gShield, Shorewall, Firestarter, ipkungfu
[02:06] <Whistler> sorush20 firestarter is good one
[02:06] <Belutz> sorush20, a lots
[02:06] <avalost> fwbuilder
[02:06] <Belutz> :D
[02:06] <darkmatter> sorush20: firestarter has a package in the repos
[02:06] <poningru> hmm why doesnt my cwd work?
[02:06] <sorush20> sorry.. open source firewall for windows, its cause my sister doesn't like ubuntu so she has xp on her pc
[02:06] <nalioth> sorush20: there is no firewall. there is iptables http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[02:06] <poningru> command not found
[02:07] <Zeke1> how do u close an app that doesnt wanna close?
[02:07] <thoreauputic> poningru: pwd
[02:07] <Whistler> Zeke1 ctrl+c
[02:07] <Whistler> maube
[02:07] <Whistler> maybe
[02:07] <poningru> thoreauputic: doh
[02:07] <avalost> Zeke1, or you can kill the pid
[02:07] <Zeke1> Whistler, tried that didnt work
[02:07] <avalost> try to avoid using signal -9
[02:07] <Whistler> Zeke1 killall name
[02:07] <poningru> thoreauputic: thanks man
[02:07] <Whistler> or sudo killall name
[02:08] <sorush20> sorry.. open source firewall for windows, its cause my sister doesn't like ubuntu so she has xp on her pc
[02:08] <darkmatter> Zeke1: killall <appname>
[02:08] <Nvidiot> sorush20: I don't know of any open source firewalls for windows
[02:08] <avalost> sorush20, i have yet to see anything 'opensource' for windows
[02:08] <Zeke1> darkmatter, yeah tried that too...just says no process killed
[02:09] <Nvidiot> avalost: firefox? Openoffice? the stack of gnu tools?
[02:09] <avalost> I have seen free firewalls, nothing opensource though
[02:09] <avalost> Nvidiot, what?
[02:09] <darkmatter> Zeke1: which app?
[02:09] <Zeke1> mplayer
[02:09] <avalost> what about them?
[02:09] <queuetue_> Hello, is anyone here from Montreal?  I'm a new transplant and would like to ask some information about finding tech resources in the city...
[02:09] <Zeke1> darkmatter, by the way do u use anon-proxy by any chance
[02:09] <Nvidiot> avalost: ah never mind, I thought you said you didn't see anything opensource for windows. But you were referring to firewalls in particular :)
[02:09] <Paradoxx> how do you see list of pakages installed with dpkg?
[02:10] <darkmatter> Zeke1:no
[02:10] <apokryphos> Paradoxx: dpkg -l
[02:10] <Zeke1> darkmatter, is it wise to use it?
[02:10] <Paradoxx> how do i output it into a file >.<
[02:10] <Paradoxx> lol
[02:10] <Nvidiot> Paradoxx: command > file
[02:10] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i install ALSA from shell?
[02:11] <Nvidiot> Paradoxx: or: command | more  if you want a paged output to the screen
[02:11] <apokryphos> Paradoxx: to search it just dpkg -l|grep PATTERN
[02:11] <darkmatter> Zeke1:not sure. I don't use proxy period. sorry...
[02:11] <avalost> ok, kernel upgrade..
[02:12] <Shin_Gouki> plz someone how do i setup ALSA from shell?
[02:12] <Paradoxx> to remove a package is? dpkg -R packagename?
[02:12] <Nvidiot> Paradoxx: man dpkg
[02:12] <thoreauputic> Paradoxx: lower case -r
[02:12] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: did you ever tell me what the output was for the command I gave you?
[02:13] <mahangu> heatxsink, that's really smart, dissing the guy who's helping you
[02:13] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, there wasnt any it simply did proceed?
[02:13] <Nvidiot> crimsun: installing packages now :)
[02:13] <n1315> ubuntu???
[02:13] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: how old is your computer?
[02:13] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, P 233
[02:13] <N6REJ> <------- reinstalling from start for the 4th time :(
[02:13] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: lspnp -v output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, please
[02:13] <Shin_Gouki> kk
[02:14] <nalioth> N6REJ: perhaps you'd want to check your md5sums
[02:14] <N6REJ> I did, they matched perfectly.
[02:14] <nalioth> N6REJ: cuz it is unusual to have to install so many times
[02:14] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  maybe bad ram or sth then
[02:14] <N6REJ> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:14] <Shin_Gouki> crimsum , here result : -bash: lspnp: command not found
[02:15] <aftertaf> lol N6REJ
[02:15] <N6REJ> I could do a memtest I guess.
[02:15] <nalioth> N6REJ: perhaps burn another cd at achingly slow speed
[02:15] <_mindspin> would be my guess too
[02:15] <_mindspin> helped me sometimes
[02:15] <d33p> how do I pass my partitions from ext2 to ext3 in ubuntu?
[02:15] <N6REJ> when I told ubuntu to check the cd, it said there was a issue with one of the installer files, but the md5 matched sooo.
[02:16] <aftertaf> or get debian net installer cd and change sources to ubuntu
[02:16] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: please install pcmcia-cs
[02:16] <Nvidiot> d33p: not sure if it's even possible without formatting
[02:16] <N6REJ> thats a thought too.
[02:16] <nalioth> N6REJ: well there ya go
[02:16] <onkarshinde> which repos contains elinks - text browser?
[02:16] <Shin_Gouki> crimsum, its an PCI soundcard... do i need pcmcia support..?
[02:16] <AaMiRaH> hi
[02:16] <onkarshinde> !info elinks
[02:16] <ubotu> elinks: (Character mode WWW/FTP browser), section web, is optional. Version: 0.9.3-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1189 kB, Installed size: 2916 kB
[02:16] <N6REJ> ok, let me reburn the ISO.
[02:16] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: if it's a pci sound card, the output should be in lspci -v|grep -i audio
[02:17] <nalioth> onkarshinde: the default ones
[02:17] <d33p> Nvidiot, but does ubuntu give the option in the installation to use ext3 instead of ext2?
[02:17] <Shin_Gouki> crimsum, ur right my bad! its an ISA soundcard..so?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> d33p: ext3 is default
[02:17] <Nvidiot> d33p: I don't know, I did a rather hacked install from a knoppix-std cd, used reiserfs
[02:17] <Shin_Gouki> crimsum, do i need to stick with OSS?
[02:18] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: so install pcmcia-cs, run lspnp -v, and paste the output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:18] <onkarshinde> nalioth: Ok. But which of the main and universe?
[02:18] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: it's in main according to ubotu
[02:19] <d33p> Nvidiot, did the change in tunefs but now doubting that the ubuntu kernel has support for ext3, might have to configure/install my own kernel
[02:19] <Shin_Gouki> how do i install
[02:19] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: which apt-cache policy elinks confirms here
[02:19] <PoBK> anyone had any problems with breezy and gnome panel not displaying applications or keyboard shortcuts not working anymore?
[02:19] <Nvidiot> d33p: well, according to thoreauputic ext3 is default, so the default kernel should work I suppose
[02:20] <thoreauputic> d33p: the default is defnitely ext3
[02:20] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: Thanks
[02:20] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, idid install it plz explain a bit more detailed what to do now? what do u mean with paste putput?
[02:20] <d33p> thoreauputic, don't understand why I choose ext2 then, well, will have to reinstall ubuntu, it was a little broken anyway
[02:21] <onkarshinde> Can anyone guide me any all-in-one shell scripting guide? Specifically if there is a one for Solaris?
[02:21] <d33p> if I reinstall ubuntu and I had a different partition for /home, in the install can I choose to use a partition as /home but not format it?
[02:21] <thoreauputic> d33p: you don't have to reinstall to add a journal to ext2
[02:21] <ompaul> d33p, yes
[02:21] <d33p> ompaul, ok thanks
[02:22] <d33p> thoreauputic, I know I know, did tune2fs but lets see if it works well
[02:22] <Shin_Gouki> how do i get an ISA Sound Card to work?
[02:22] <thoreauputic> d33p: did you uae the -j option ?
[02:22] <Nvidiot> Shin_Gouki: the command you had to run gives some text output. put that output on the website you got and give us the link
[02:22] <thoreauputic> *use
[02:23] <d33p> thoreauputic, yes
[02:23] <Shin_Gouki> k i will
[02:23] <thoreauputic> d33p: should be fine then
[02:23] <n1315> how long does it usualy take before the cds r send?
[02:23] <Necron> Ubuntu live CD crashes when "mounting linux" on my notebook. any ideas?
[02:23] <d33p> thoreauputic, let's see, how do I install a pctv pci card on ubuntu?
[02:23] <Whistler> n1315 2 weeks
[02:23] <mahangu> n1315, here to sri lanka it took a few weeks
[02:23] <onkarshinde> If linux likes to use all the RAM available the will using 512 RAM instead of 128 increase performance 4 times?
[02:23] <n1315> ty
[02:23] <thoreauputic> d33p: I haven't a clue :)
[02:23] <n1315> HOLLAND!! :p
[02:23] <mahangu> onkarshinde, depends on the programs you run etc
[02:24] <d33p> anybody knows how to install a pctv pci card on ubuntu?
[02:24] <d33p> thoreauputic, thanks for the help =)
[02:24] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:24] <Necron> Ubuntu live CD crashes when "mounting linux" on my notebook. any ideas?
[02:24] <mahangu> Necron, try boot options
[02:24] <mahangu> there is a boot option for troublesome notebooks
[02:24] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: don't know about 4 times, but it will make a*big* difference
[02:25] <mahangu> press F2
[02:25] <onkarshinde> mahangu: Ok, how about a normal desktop running a media player along with some game like robots
[02:25] <mahangu> and the other function keys
[02:25] <mahangu> onkarshinde, 128mb should be fine
[02:25] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, nvidiot which name should the post be?
[02:25] <mahangu> if you're running heavy graphics etc, some extra ram may help
[02:25] <Nvidiot> Shin_Gouki: anything, doesn't really matter
[02:26] <thoreauputic> mahangu: 512MB will be *much* more responsive than 128
[02:26] <mahangu> thoreauputic, i agree, what i was saying is that for what he's doing, it's not essential
[02:26] <n1315> is there an server version of ubuntu??
[02:26] <mister_roboto> 128mb will SUCK if you're using one of the heavy desktops
[02:26] <thoreauputic> mahangu: OK :)
[02:26] <mahangu> mister_roboto, ive run gnome on 128mb just fine
[02:26] <mahangu> but im not sure if you consider that "heavy:
[02:26] <mahangu> "
[02:26] <mister_roboto> sure as long as you don't run anything else!
[02:26] <mister_roboto> :)
[02:26] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, nvidiot there u go: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2753
[02:27] <mahangu> :)
[02:27] <mister_roboto> gnome, kde = heavy
[02:27] <mahangu> kde is TEH heavy
[02:27] <Shin_Gouki> i have 128 MB
[02:27] <mahangu> i agree
[02:27] <mahangu> i like gnome
[02:27] <Shin_Gouki> with Icewm its pretty fast
[02:27] <bimberi> n1315: you can do a "server install" yes
[02:28] <n1315> k..
[02:28] <AlphaFaction> Hey gyes, ive just put ubuntu on my pc for the first time, unlike dropline it does not seem to be automounting my drives at boot instead wating for me to double click on them to mount them. is their a way to automount my fat32 partitions befre the desktop loads?
[02:28] <Whistler> AlphaFaction yep it is
[02:29] <Whistler> AlphaFaction read ubuntuguide.org
[02:29] <onkarshinde> AlphaFaction: Ever played with /etc/fstab?
[02:29] <AlphaFaction> i have
[02:29] <AlphaFaction> ok ill look into
[02:29] <nalioth> Whistler: please dont advise that
[02:29] <AlphaFaction> thanks for the pointer
[02:29] <thoreauputic> !tell AlphaFaction about mountwindows
[02:29] <dim_witted_kid> i'm having problems with my browser
[02:29] <nalioth> AlphaFaction: dont go there, please
[02:29] <Whistler> nalioth sorry but i think that ubuntuguide is good for ppl
[02:29] <dim_witted_kid> i think whenever it encounters flash thingies my browser crashes
[02:30] <mirak> is there a way to detach a X remote session ?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> AlphaFaction: ubuntuguide is kind of out of date and you might break things
[02:30] <AlphaFaction> sure thing, thanks allot for the help
[02:30] <lorenzo> it
[02:30] <dim_witted_kid> i've used several browsers like galeon ff and mozilla
[02:30] <lorenzo> ops
[02:30] <mirak> like with VNC
[02:30] <mirak> VNC sucks
[02:30] <lorenzo> sorry
[02:30] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, nvidiot there u go: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2753 ,still my ISA sounds card issue
[02:30] <Whistler> nalioth but anyway ok i will do it.
[02:30] <nalioth> Whistler: it WAS good for people when warty was out and hoary was new, but now it's old and will kill your box
[02:30] <thoreauputic> Whistler: we have to pick up the pieces here...
[02:30] <Whistler> k sorry
[02:30] <onkarshinde> mirak: I don't think VNC sucks.
[02:30] <dim_witted_kid> anyone?
[02:31] <onkarshinde> dim_witted_kid: Please provide more details, whcih version of FF? Have you installed flash?
[02:31] <mirak> onkarshinde: yes it does, it's slow as hell in comparison of a X remote session
[02:31] <mister_roboto> dim_witted_kid: bad flash plugin?
[02:31] <Whistler> nalioth so i should reccomend ubuntu wiki wright?
[02:31] <thoreauputic> !tell mirak about freenx
[02:31] <dim_witted_kid> i haven't installed flash yet
[02:31] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: ok, that's not too helpful.
[02:31] <mirak> thoreauputic: well exept freenx ...
[02:32] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: What type of computer (make & model)?
[02:32] <dim_witted_kid> when i go to sites like neopets.com which uses flash
[02:32] <thoreauputic> mirak: freenx rocks
[02:32] <dim_witted_kid> my browser crashes
[02:32] <nalioth> Whistler: or ubotu factoids
[02:32] <mirak> thoreauputic: yes
[02:32] <mylastmorning> can anyone help me with the mp3 codecs?
[02:32] <mirak> thoreauputic: however when I tried it I couldn't resume a session
[02:32] <mister_roboto> mirak: it's a lot easier to see your windows desktop on your unix machine using VNC rather than remote X session ;)
[02:32] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, the sound card is old atztech, the Computer model is a P 233
[02:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mylastmorning about mp3
[02:32] <onkarshinde> dim_witted_kid: So try to install flash first. Make sure your browser is updated and report back.
[02:32] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: need specifics
[02:32] <Kuku> hi
[02:32] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, mother board or soundcard specifics?
[02:33] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: sound chipset
[02:33] <Shin_Gouki> kk
[02:33] <mylastmorning> nalioth that package is not avaible anymore.
[02:33] <mirak> mister_roboto: yes, they is no alternative. though there is a freenx server. RDP have not bad performances
[02:34] <mylastmorning> does anyone use mp3's?
[02:34] <Zeke1> how do you get dvd's to play in ubuntu i am having problems with totem and mplayer
[02:34] <barosl> is DirectFB "faster" than Xorg?
[02:35] <mister_roboto> mylastmorning: i don't think anyone does, no
[02:35] <Whistler> mylastmorning i do
[02:35] <nalioth> mylastmorning: ubotu sent you a msg
[02:35] <mylastmorning> Whistler how do you get it to work?
[02:35] <mylastmorning> nalioth that package is gone
[02:35] <nalioth> mylastmorning: really? gstreamer0.8-mad?
[02:35] <silent_scream> !faq
[02:35] <Whistler> mylastmorning sudo apt-get install xmms
[02:35] <ubotu> well, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[02:35] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, i just found an PCI soundcard i stick it in them il be back, till in about 15 min!!
[02:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mylastmorning about sources
[02:35] <Nvidiot> I installed gstreamer0.8-mad a few mins ago
[02:35] <mylastmorning> ...
[02:35] <nalioth> mylastmorning: enable your sources
[02:35] <Whistler> and use it to play your mp3`s
[02:36] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, thx for ur support so far
[02:36] <mister_roboto> that package is in my cache
[02:36] <mister_roboto> (for hoary)
[02:36] <Zeke1> anybody use DVD's in ubuntu
[02:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Zeke1 about dvd
[02:36] <mylastmorning> I've already enabled my sources nalioth.
[02:36] <mylastmorning> and its still not their. :-(
[02:37] <nalioth> mylastmorning: then you should see the pkg
[02:37] <nalioth> mylastmorning: then d/l it from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:37] <mylastmorning> how do I do that nalioth
[02:37] <mylastmorning> I'm still learning sorry...
[02:37] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: you updated, right?
[02:37] <BiSK-8> hello
[02:37] <Nvidiot> ohoh
[02:37] <Nvidiot> xml parser error
[02:37] <mylastmorning> yeah I am thoreauputic
[02:37] <BiSK-8> how do i uninstall a program through apt-get?
[02:38] <mylastmorning> apt-get remove
[02:38] <abyss_> !tnt2
[02:38] <ubotu> abyss_: Are you smoking crack?
[02:38] <BiSK-8> but the directories stay
[02:38] <mylastmorning> BiSk-8 you type apt-get remove package
[02:38] <Nvidiot> hm, it continues
[02:38] <BiSK-8> i know
[02:38] <BiSK-8> i tried
[02:38] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: if you can't find gstreamer0.8-mad, your sources are wrong or you need to run sudo apt-get update
[02:38] <BiSK-8> but the directories stay where they were
[02:39] <abyss_> anone knows how i get my tnt2 m64 card with 3d support?
[02:39] <BiSK-8> any other way 2 remove things?
[02:39] <abyss_> ive installed the nvidia-legacy but wont work
[02:39] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: breezy or hoary?
[02:39] <nalioth> BiSK-8: what are you wanting to do?
[02:39] <Nvidiot> abyss_: install the nvidia driver?
[02:39] <mylastmorning> thoreauputic ok whats next? apt-get gstreamer0.8-mad?
[02:40] <BiSK-8> nalioth: im tryin' 2 remove a package
[02:40] <mylastmorning> thorrauputic whats that?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:40] <kingos> is there a bug channel for ubuntu?
[02:40] <mylastmorning> BiSK-8 what is the package you wish to remove?
[02:40] <BiSK-8> apache2 and apache
[02:40] <mylastmorning> oh gosh
[02:40] <BiSK-8> :D
[02:40] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: if that succeeds, play an mp3 with music player or totem
[02:41] <abyss_> Nvidiot, ive done all but wont work
[02:41] <RonaldH> Hi, Any ideas on powernowd; the pentium 3 'coppermine' on a 440BX speedsteps with around half a second lag in responsiveness, and the powernowd pretty frequently feels like stepping the cpu... which is very anoying...
[02:41] <Whistler> sorry for double post
[02:41] <BiSK-8> mylastmorning: i woud like 2 remove it and reinstall it
[02:41] <mylastmorning> thoreauputic, this is what it says E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:41] <BiSK-8> apache wont work
[02:41] <mirak> thoreauputic: it fails for ppc
[02:41] <Nvidiot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:41] <mylastmorning> would you like to SSH?
[02:41] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: oh this is ppc?
[02:41] <BiSK-8> yes
[02:42] <dim_witted_kid> any other repository source i could use?
[02:42] <mister_roboto> mylastmorning: http://pastebin.com/382577     that is my /etc/apt/sources.list, which has the package
[02:42] <nalioth> thoreauputic: gstreamer plugins work on ppc
[02:42] <mirak> thoreauputic: yes
[02:42] <mister_roboto> mylastmorning: not sure where it actually is
[02:42] <thoreauputic> nalioth: that's what I thought
[02:42] <kingos> which channel should I join to discuss a possible bug?
[02:43] <BiSK-8> mylastmorning: yes, i would like ssh if possibile
[02:43] <mylastmorning> not u BiSK-8
[02:43] <BiSK-8> oh
[02:43] <mylastmorning> mister_roboto, where should I look to find the mp3 codecs?
[02:43] <BiSK-8> mylastmorning: so what should i do to uninstall apache and apache2 and all files like ssl etc?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: I would check your sources again - or look at the ones ubotu spits out (from the last URLs)
[02:44] <thoreauputic> !sources
[02:44] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[02:44] <nalioth> BiSK-8: use synaptic
[02:44] <avalost> !e17
[02:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, e17 is the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org
[02:44] <mylastmorning> can you help me do that thoreauputic?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: I assume you are using hoary - cat /etc/issue to see
[02:44] <mirak> thoreauputic: I can't even get the sources
[02:45] <mister_roboto> mylastmorning: sorry, i'm not sure.  i remember finding the via google long ago.
[02:45] <thoreauputic> mirak: ?
[02:45] <mylastmorning> thoreauputic I don't know what hoary is.
[02:45] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: what does cat /etc/issue  say ?
[02:45] <BiSK-8> naolith: how, ive never used it
[02:45] <mylastmorning> 1 sec
[02:46] <nalioth> BiSK-8: system > admin > synaptic pkg mangler
[02:46] <nalioth> BiSK-8: it is SOOO easy
[02:46] <BiSK-8> okokok
[02:46] <BiSK-8> i got it
[02:46] <BiSK-8> :D
[02:46] <BiSK-8> thought it was terminal based
[02:46] <mylastmorning> Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l thoreauputic
[02:46] <nalioth> BiSK-8: that is aptitude
[02:46] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: OK as I thought
[02:46] <ales_italia> PROBLEM WITH SUSPEND TO RAM: I follow the wiki, i insert the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support, then i've rebooted the machine, but when i tried to suspend it, it doesn't work. The screnn is black but the machine doesn't shut down. I can resume it, but i can't shutdown complete or reboot it. I use gnome-power-manager. Any ideas?
[02:47] <mylastmorning> ok so what do I do thoreauputic?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: so grab the url above for hoary and paste it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:47] <thoreauputic> !tell mylastmorning about sources
[02:47] <BiSK-8> naolith: in synaptic there is no apache or apache2
[02:47] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: it's in your msg es now
[02:47] <mylastmorning> what url thoreauputic?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> ^^^
[02:48] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: check your pm msg es
[02:48] <nalioth> BiSK-8: really? then you dont have to remove anything
[02:48] <mylastmorning> ok thoreaputic
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> hey guys ... is it me or the package lint is missing from the repos ???
[02:48] <BiSK-8> naolith, sry, i found it
[02:49] <mattaion> hello, can someone tell from where i can get a codec package fpr mp3, divx...
[02:49] <mylastmorning> should I replace or add this stuff thoreauputic?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> !mp3
[02:50] <ubotu> [mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[02:50] <ales_italia> PROBLEM WITH SUSPEND TO RAM: I follow the wiki, i insert the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support, then i've rebooted the machine, but when i tried to suspend it, it doesn't work. The screnn is black but the machine doesn't shut down. I can resume it, but i can't shutdown complete or reboot it. I use gnome-power-manager. Any ideas?
[02:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mattaion about restricted
[02:51] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: replace - do cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old then sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, delete what you have and paste the file in, save
[02:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mattaion about w32codecs
[02:51] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: actually that' only one way, but it should work OK
[02:52] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: the cp command needs sudo as well, sorry
[02:52] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: so first do the backup:  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[02:53] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: then do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove it, paste the list from the URL and save it
[02:54] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: then  sudo apt-get update
[02:57] <mylastmorning> thoreauputic. would you like to SSH in. I'm lost.
[02:57] <Big> Hello?
[02:57] <mylastmorning> hi
[02:57] <Big> Hi
[02:57] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: well, asking complete strangers to ssh to your machine with root access isn't really a good idea :)
[02:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mylastmorning about apt
[02:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mylastmorning about synaptic
[02:58] <Big> how do I find out what firewall I have running now?
[02:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mylastmorning about repos
[02:58] <nalioth> Big: there are no firewalls in ubuntu by default
[02:59] <Big> I could of swore there was, must have been PcLinuxOS
[02:59] <Big> I'm back to Ubntu
[02:59] <ales_italia> PROBLEM WITH SUSPEND TO RAM: I follow the wiki, i insert the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support, then i've rebooted the machine, but when i tried to suspend it, it doesn't work. The screnn is black but the machine doesn't shut down. I can resume it, but i can't shutdown complete or reboot it. I use gnome-power-manager. Any ideas?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: most likely you don't have an ssh server running anyway, unless you installed it
[03:00] <trunks_> i ve got a pb with ccmake (CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER_FULLPATH-NOTFOUND was not
[03:00] <trunks_>  found in your path)
[03:00] <confrey> hi everybody
[03:00] <toran> hey guys, I just rebuilt a couple programs with "apt-source -b". I installed the resulting packages, but now whenever I do "apt-get upgrade" it wants to "update" those packages back to the default version. How can I keep this from happenning
[03:00] <mylastmorning> got it thoreauputic
[03:00] <trunks_> somebody can help me?
[03:00] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: good :)
[03:00] <admin__> how do i dc my own nickname?
[03:00] <Big> anyone know what repository Firestarter and Synergy are in?
[03:01] <mylastmorning> now what thoreauputic?
[03:01] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: so you've got a workable list and updated it?
[03:01] <mylastmorning> yes thoreauputic
[03:01] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: OK well now you should find the packages
[03:02] <mylastmorning> what should I type thoreauputic?
[03:02] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: what does   apt-cache search gstreamer0.8-mad   say now ?
[03:02] <nalioth> mylastmorning: run synaptic
[03:02] <nalioth> mylastmorning: system > admin > synaptic
[03:03] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: what nalioth suggests might be more comfortable for you
[03:03] <elc3> hi guys
[03:03] <mylastmorning> I got it... ^_^
[03:03] <Nvidiot> suspend to ram seems to work... now testing hibernate
[03:03] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: so install that package
[03:03] <ales_italia> PROBLEM WITH SUSPEND TO RAM: I follow the wiki, i insert the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support, then i've rebooted the machine, but when i tried to suspend it, it doesn't work. The screnn is black but the machine doesn't shut down. I can resume it, but i can't shutdown complete or reboot it. I use gnome-power-manager. Any ideas?
[03:03] <thoreauputic> gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:03] <jip> poningru, i managed to upgrade to Breezy. so now my dvb-card should work without recompiling kernel? :P
[03:04] <Nvidiot> hibernate causes a non-clean shutdown :(
[03:04] <dim_witted_kid> i have a question
[03:04] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: once you have that try playing an mp3 in music player
[03:04] <dim_witted_kid> i was trying to install jre
[03:04] <trunks_> i've got sound pb
[03:04] <mahangu> when i close my laptop, my wifi dies
[03:04] <mahangu> any ideas?
[03:04] <mylastmorning> yay!!!! it works ^_^  ^_^ ^_^
[03:04] <trunks_> can anybody help me?
[03:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dim_witted_kid about javadeb
[03:04] <Nvidiot> mahangu: don't close your laptop :P
[03:05] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: :)))
[03:05] <dim_witted_kid> then it keeps on saying that it's unable to find the package
[03:05] <mahangu> Nvidiot, sleep my friend, sleep
[03:05] <nalioth> dim_witted_kid: see ubotu's msg
[03:06] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: now have fun browsing in synaptic for thousands of goodies :)
[03:06] <Nvidiot> Where would I look to try to get hibernate to work on my laptop?
[03:06] <ales_italia> what kind of laptop?
[03:06] <erchache> i have a problem with apt....i have broken references...how i can solve it?
[03:06] <mahangu> mylastmorning, you're going to waste LOTS of time there, take it from me
[03:07] <Nvidiot> ales_italia: Dell Inspiron 8200
[03:07] <Nvidiot> ales_italia: suspend to ram works once I did the nvidia driver settings change, hibernate causes a non-clean shutdown
[03:08] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: don't bother thanking anyone, by the way - we volunteers are all  well paid :/
[03:08] <ales_italia> i've problem with suspend_to_ram but i've seen this mornign a web page about it....wait a moment
[03:08] <toran> hey guys, I just rebuilt a couple programs with "apt-source -b". I installed the resulting packages, but now whenever I do "apt-get upgrade" it wants to "update" those packages back to the default version. How can I keep this from happenning
[03:09] <mylastmorning> back ^_^ thank you all, thoreauputic and nalioth
[03:09] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: you're welcome :)
[03:09] <herzi> i have two network connections, how to i tell that the one on eth2 doesn't overrite the default route of pp0?
[03:10] <poningru> jip: did it work?
[03:12] <ales_italia> Nvidiot?
[03:12] <Nvidiot> ales_italia: yes ?
[03:12] <ales_italia> maybe you can find something on hte ubuntuforums....looking for hibernate dell
[03:12] <ales_italia> try it
[03:12] <Nvidiot> okay I will, once I get my wlan0 working again...
[03:12] <Nvidiot> that just magically went boinkers
[03:13] <atomic_UE> Anyone know of a good GUI partitioning tool besides qtparted?
[03:13] <jip> poningru, nope. breezyhowto just says that "So install MyhtTV follow the guide on NovaTHowTo". that's hard because it can't find no devices
[03:13] <toran> atomic_UE: gparted?
[03:13] <toran> lol
[03:13] <ales_italia> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54375&highlight=hibernate+dell
[03:13] <ales_italia> try it
[03:13] <Nvidiot> ales_italia: thanks :)
[03:13] <ales_italia> :)
[03:13] <ales_italia> no problem
[03:14] <ales_italia> ...now i've to solve my problem....
[03:14] <atomic_UE> Fedora/Redhat have Disk Druid, but it's not available outside of the redhat/fedora installer, and Mandriva has diskdrake, but that's only available for Mandriva systems :\
[03:14] <Ubuntu> help!
[03:14] <ales_italia> maybe it depends on my ati driver
[03:14] <Ubuntu> mi ubuntu no conecta a internet
[03:14] <Ubuntu> pero si responde a ping  166.114.10.10
[03:14] <nalioth> !es
[03:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:14] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , still there?
[03:14] <Ubuntu> gracias :p
[03:15] <Hubert> welcome :)
[03:15] <Zeke1> i cant seem to get libdvdcss2...can somone perhaps help me?
[03:15] <nalioth> Zeke1: /msg ubotu hoary-extras
[03:15] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i got a nasty problem :/
[03:15] <Nvidiot> that was weird
[03:15] <ales_italia> Ciao Shin_Gouki
[03:15] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: yes?
[03:15] <Nvidiot> but wlan0 works again now
[03:15] <Cryptid> Is there a .mpeg to .avi converter for ubuntu with which i can also change the resolution of the videos
[03:16] <Zeke1> nalioth,  what?
[03:16] <nalioth> Cryptid: transcode
[03:16] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: yes?
[03:16] <nalioth> Zeke1: type /msg ubotu hoary-extras
[03:16] <Nvidiot> Zeke1: grab it manually, lemme digup the url
[03:16] <Cryptid> nalioth, ok i will try
[03:17] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, i tried to get ISA Soundcard to get working... but then i foiund a PCI card, i took off the ISA card & build in the PCI but that killed my NIC config...
[03:17] <Cryptid> nalioth, can i change the resolution of the vid with it
[03:17] <nalioth> Cryptid: transcode is a full featured app
[03:17] <Nvidiot> Zeke1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67655
[03:17] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, so try to get PCI get workin or back to ISA?
[03:18] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, ATM im on without ANY soundcard
[03:18] <Zeke1> Nvidiot, and then instal it manually
[03:18] <StylusEater_Work> will broadcom every release the specs for the powerbook wireless or do I need to invest in a usb dongle?
[03:18] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: putting things back to the way they were would be a choice
[03:18] <nalioth> StylusEater_Work: invest
[03:18] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, but i also think PCI is better
[03:18] <StylusEater_Work> nailoth: hmmm...best card?
[03:18] <mahangu> how can i mv the entire contents of a folder
[03:18] <mahangu> including all subfolders?
[03:18] <mylastmorning> does anyone know the packages to make gnome pretty?
[03:19] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, is there any way to say to ubuntu: look for new HW?
[03:19] <StylusEater_Work> mahangu: mv -r
[03:19] <StylusEater_Work> me thinks
[03:19] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, i mean EXPLICIT and long
[03:19] <nalioth> StylusEater_Work: netgear ma111 is reported to work
[03:19] <StylusEater_Work> nailoth: danke
[03:19] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, some kind of Hardware scan modus, which i may activate
[03:19] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: what's your pci card?
[03:19] <StylusEater_Work> mahangu: work? you can also try 'man mv'
[03:20] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, its a terratec DMX Xfire its fine
[03:20] <mahangu> StylusEater_Work, thanks, how can i get the filesizes of all files ina dir?
[03:20] <HiddenFly> is ubuntu able to install from rpm package?
[03:20] <thoreauputic> mahangu: du
[03:20] <StylusEater_Work> mahangu: ls -ls should work
[03:20] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, i need a whole new Hardware scan for the system is this only by reinstalling possible?
[03:20] <GDorn> HiddenFly: look at alien
[03:20] <StylusEater_Work> mahangu: ls -lsd if you want to see dirs too
[03:20] <Nvidiot> Zeke1: grab the .deb from that url, do dpkg -i file.deb
[03:20] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: that card uses the snd-cs46xx chipset
[03:20] <HiddenFly> GDorn: alien?
[03:20] <mahangu> thanks guys
[03:20] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: it should work just fine under Ubuntu
[03:21] <StylusEater_Work> mahangu: np
[03:21] <mahangu> im transfering files to USB
[03:21] <mahangu> in anticipation of giving this machine back to work
[03:21] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, if i plug it into the configutration it kills my Network configuration
[03:21] <thoreauputic> mahangu: du -h for a more readable output
[03:21] <RonaldH> Hi, Any ideas on powernowd; the pentium 3 'coppermine' on a 440BX speedsteps with around half a second lag in responsiveness, and the powernowd pretty frequently feels like stepping the cpu... which is very anoying...
[03:21] <mylastmorning> does anyone know the packages to make gnome pretty?
[03:21] <nalioth> HiddenFly: it's best not to use rpms
[03:21] <confrey> how can I use pcmcia with my laptop? it doesn't work with breeze, neither with hoary, sagre, knoppix
[03:21] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, plz read the text i directed towards U & nalioth
[03:22] <Zeke1> Nvidiot, you dont perhaps know where the 64bit version would be?
[03:22] <yancheng> helo, may i noe for geforce4, is it asus product or nvidia product?
[03:22] <Nvidiot> Zeke1: I did notice that a script that came with libdvdread grabbed libdvdcss2
[03:23] <Nvidiot> yancheng: nvidia makes the main chip, Asus creates the board around the chip
[03:23] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, on startup of ubuntu thers a point: sync clock with**** when the PCI card is inside it fails
[03:23] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: do you have additional free pci slots?
[03:23] <yancheng> nvidiot: ah! thanks!
[03:23] <Zeke1> Nvidiot, well i did install libdvdread but i dont think it got libdvdcss
[03:23] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: it sounds like irq mess.
[03:23] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, yes
[03:23] <scanwinder> whats a good IDE to learn C in?
[03:23] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, yes ill try the other free slot
[03:23] <BooZee> does Thnuderbird has a plugin for showing like a small envelope when a new Mail has arrived? like Outlook do.. ?
[03:23] <yancheng> nvidiot: anyone here encouter CMOS time not set problem, whenever u turn off the main power of computer and re-turned on
[03:24] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, is it a bad idea to put ALL 3 PCI cards now in a diffrent order?
[03:24] <erchache> Configurando apache2-common (2.0.53-5ubuntu5.3) ...
[03:24] <erchache> chown: `root:adm': invalid group
[03:24] <erchache> dpkg: error al procesar apache2-common (--configure):
[03:24] <erchache>  el subproceso post-installation script devolvi el cdigo de salida de error 1
[03:24] <erchache> dpkg: problemas de dependencias impiden la configuracin de apache2-mpm-prefork:
[03:24] <erchache>  apache2-mpm-prefork depende de apache2-common (= 2.0.53-5ubuntu5.3); sin embargo:
[03:24] <Nvidiot> yancheng: replace the motherboard battery
[03:24] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[03:24] <deFrysk> BooZee, thunderbird makes a li'l sound here whem mail arrives
[03:24] <scanwinder> yancheng: yeh, replace mobo batt
[03:25] <Shin_Gouki> how and where do i turn off X autostart?
[03:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> my server novel is going to end... 8) i need decide between debain and ubuntu with server install...i need some help to end this question...someone may help me?
[03:25] <BooZee> deFrysk: yes i know, the prob is that it's a too li'l, and if I wasn't near the comp, I can't know if I got any new mail unless I load up the prog..
[03:25] <jip> poningru, the problem is that i can't create dev-files right. always complaining: main:1882: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 19 No such device
[03:26] <Shin_Gouki> where do i turn off X-server AUTOSTART?
[03:26] <Aragorn_Guardian> i think ubuntu is more easy to maintain my packages, since synaptic is very easy...
[03:26] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: echo "false" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager  (from memory)
[03:26] <Virtuall> http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=5171 :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[03:26] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[03:26] <deFrysk> BooZee, I have always thunderbird running in a seperate virt. desktop
[03:27] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: put it back with the same but substitute /usr/bin/gdm for false ;)
[03:27] <londonboi2k3> ello guys, its been a long time since I have used ubunutu, but I have installed it today and for some reason the backports are not working, and I cant seem to find a resolution on the fourms, any help would be great
[03:28] <BooZee> deFrysk: me too.. all i'm saying, if you had a small envelope near the clock, it would have been more helpful
[03:28] <nalioth> londonboi2k3: what do you want to do?
[03:28] <thoreauputic> londonboi2k3: the old backports are gone
[03:28] <deFrysk> BooZee, there is an app for that in xfce4 but it crashes all the time checking
[03:28] <deFrysk> forgot the name tho
[03:28] <londonboi2k3> well, I wanted w32codec, and java
[03:28] <Shin_Gouki> didnt work, it came back after i typed: xkill :/
[03:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> since ubuntu is debian, my idea is mantain a server, and a copy of the installed packages in my desktop, so i can make some test before update in server...
[03:29] <thoreauputic> !tell londonboi2k3 about javadeb
[03:29] <BooZee> deFrysk: is xfce4 a prog?
[03:29] <Aragorn_Guardian> anyone is using ubuntu in a server? 8)
[03:29] <londonboi2k3> ?
[03:29] <Shin_Gouki> boozee
[03:29] <daniele> someone knows if wesnoth 1.0 will be in final breezy?
[03:29] <Nvidiot> londonboi2k3: win32codecs can be grabbed from a debian mirror
[03:29] <Shin_Gouki> BooZee , no a WM
[03:29] <thoreauputic> !tell londonboi2k3 about w32codecs
[03:29] <deFrysk> BooZee, its a dm
[03:29] <crimsun> daniele: highly unlikely.
[03:29] <nalioth> Nvidiot: we have ubuntu packed w32codecs
[03:29] <deFrysk> de , sorry
[03:29] <crimsun> daniele: possible, but very, very unlikely.
[03:30] <BooZee> well i'm using gnome..
[03:30] <deFrysk> BooZee, its a DE
[03:30] <Nvidiot> nalioth: hm, didn't see those, so I grabbed them from a debian mirror :)
[03:30] <Nvidiot> nalioth: doesn't really matter anyway
[03:30] <deFrysk> BooZee, yeah me too
[03:30] <deFrysk> gnome rules ;)
[03:30] <BooZee> so you're saying i got nothing to use, ha?
[03:30] <yancheng> scanwinder, nvidiot. oh, u guys olso encounter "CMOS time not set" problem?
[03:30] <londonboi2k3> ok thanks, finally, trying to install smeg and i get this smeg: Depends: python-xdg (>= 0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed
[03:31] <thoreauputic> londonboi2k3: dowload the script on amaranths page and run that
[03:31] <deFrysk> BooZee, not that i know of but maybe someone else knows ?
[03:31] <crimsun> daniele: ok, rephrase. We've requested a sync. As soon as it's processed, it'll be in. So it looks like the answer is "yes, 1.0 will be in Breezy".
[03:31] <daniele> Have you games to suggest me? I just tried neverball (apt-get install neverball), solarwolf (that is broken for a python problem). Any chance for quake3 or other (no-I-hope-GPL) games?
[03:31] <thoreauputic> !tell londonboi2k3 about smeg
[03:31] <Shin_Gouki> which file on ubuntu system helds "startup"-steps? i want to disable X Autostart
[03:31] <nalioth> londonboi2k3: use the installsmeg script from the smeg homepage
[03:31] <duce> Hello there, one question: Is there a way to get a Soundblaster X-Fi working? If I am right there is no support for this Card in the kernel 2.6.13?
[03:32] <londonboi2k3> thanks
[03:32] <GDorn> is it pronounced "free enn ecks" or "freenks"?
[03:32] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i cant shutddown my system x user login always REapperas...?
[03:32] <p0windah> GDorn: you're back, did you get it going ?
[03:32] <daniele> crimsun, thank you
[03:32] <GDorn> p0windah:  working on it now, building it from source
[03:32] <scorpix_> i can't upgrade/run firefox in Hoary, i got this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GdZXha42.htm , how can i fix it?
[03:32] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: i'm not sure
[03:33] <p0windah> GDorn: building from source.... not necessary methinks with hoary/breezy
[03:33] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: did you run the command I suggested?
[03:33] <GDorn> p0windah:  oh.  I didn't see a package...
[03:33] <deFrysk> scorpix_, first disable backports if you have it
[03:33] <duce> scorpix_, there are actoally problems with the backports
[03:33] <p0windah> GDorn: you running hoary or breezy ?
[03:33] <Shin_Gouki> naliothoreauputic,nalioth , yes i did it reappears after killing main window
[03:33] <Stricklin> It just occurred to me: no problems using an actual iPod in Linux?
[03:33] <GDorn> p0winhad: hoary, for at least another week
[03:34] <duce> No one here using a X-Fi?
[03:34] <HiddenFly> i get this error when compiling bzflag: 4.20050930/src/platform/XDisplay.h:46: undefined reference to `XF86VidModeGetModeLine' how can i fix this?
[03:34] <Stricklin> I mean, I know you can't use iTunes
[03:34] <Shin_Gouki> naliothoreauputic,nalioth , plz were does it stand that X always restatrs after killing?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: try sudo init 1 && sudo init 2 after running that command
[03:34] <p0windah> GDorn: I dont recall the repos. I used for hoary, but there is one referenced somewhere in the forums
[03:34] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: or do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:35] <p0windah> GDorn: the breezy repos. is seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:35] <nalioth> GDorn: when Seveas shows up, ask him for freenx
[03:35] <Hendric> i just finished doing a "server" install... how will i start installing a gui?? (XFCE)
[03:35] <mahangu> how can i check what disks are mounted?
[03:35] <mahangu> i want to umount my usb drive
[03:35] <mahangu> but dont know the name
[03:35] <Nvidiot> http://myrddin.org/howto/debian-grub.html <- that has *GOT* to be the funniest 404 page I've seen in a LONG time
[03:35] <Nvidiot> ROFL
[03:35] <Seveas> hm?
[03:35] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: as long as gdm is running that will happen
[03:35] <Seveas> who called?
[03:35] <deFrysk> mahangu, hit mount
[03:36] <p0windah> Seveas: you have hoary freenx packages ?
[03:36] <deFrysk> mahangu,  mount <enter> to check
[03:36] <Seveas> p0windah, deb http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/ ./
[03:37] <p0windah> GDorn: there you go, both hoary and breezy packages are in his repos.
[03:37] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: hahah - great stuff :D
[03:37] <GDorn> hrm
[03:37] <Shin_Gouki> ok besides the X server i want to switch to a shell which is NOT X based how do i do thisS?
[03:37] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: ctrl-alt-f3
[03:37] <egoleo> mysqld cannot be found
[03:37] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: erm... ctrl-alt- F1 - F6 take your pick
[03:37] <egoleo> any help
[03:37] <Seveas> egoleo, then install it :)
[03:38] <egoleo> i have installed it
[03:38] <mahangu> during the ubuntu install is there a way to partition disks?
[03:38] <mahangu> i forget
[03:38] <nalioth> Seveas: GDorn is looking for freenx
[03:38] <egoleo> it used to work so well
[03:38] <mahangu> im getting my new machine today, and i dont have partition magic around
[03:38] <egoleo> is when i upgraded to breezy
[03:38] <thoreauputic> mahangu: of course
[03:38] <kris> hi I need someone from poland to help me a little bit with ubuntu
[03:38] <egoleo> and stopped working
[03:38] <nalioth> mahangu: have a livecd?
[03:38] <mahangu> thoreauputic, these thinkpads come with a 40gig ntfs
[03:38] <londonboi2k3> !tell londonboi2k3 about azureus
[03:38] <Seveas> egoleo, maybe it got removed during the upgrade...
[03:38] <mahangu> nalioth, no hard disk install
[03:38] <nalioth>  /msg ubotu tell londonboi2k3 about msg the bot
[03:38] <Seveas> kris, #ubuntu-pl may help
[03:38] <mahangu> thoreauputic, id want to split that up in to two 20 gigs
[03:39] <kris> thx
[03:39] <egoleo> but iu have reinstalled like 3 times
[03:39] <nalioth> mahangu: if you are comfortable with the console, parted is included on the install disk
[03:39] <tombs> hi ppl
[03:39] <thoreauputic> mahangu: the installer can resize ntfs IIRC
[03:39] <p0windah> egoleo: installed "mysql-server" ?
[03:39] <deFrysk> mahangu, first install xp , on a 20 gig section and leave the reast for ubuntu
[03:39] <Nvidiot> nalioth: why so fancy? fdisk all the way! ;)
[03:39] <p0windah> egoleo: type "mysql -uroot -p" to see if its there
[03:39] <kris> nobody there :(
[03:39] <egoleo> ok
[03:39] <mahangu> deFrysk, pre installed
[03:40] <mahangu> xp comes pre installed on these machines
[03:40] <deFrysk> mahangu, then be careful
[03:40] <thoreauputic> mahangu: so resize it
[03:40] <Answer> Question:  When I change my hostname how can apply the changes without rebooting?
[03:40] <mahangu> thoreauputic, parted, is it tricky to work with?
[03:40] <egoleo> it comes
[03:40] <kris> anybody knows how to make gadu gadu work on ubuntu?
[03:40] <egoleo> and ask me for a password
[03:40] <deFrysk> silly pre-installs
[03:40] <nalioth> mahangu: not at all
[03:40] <crimsun> kris: client? Gaim handles it.
[03:40] <thoreauputic> mahangu: not particularly, if you are used to commandline
[03:40] <nerdy2> Answer, man hostname
[03:40] <p0windah> egoleo: press enter if its a fresh install
[03:40] <egoleo> when i provide the password
[03:40] <kris> ok adn how do I make it work?
[03:41] <mahangu> im alright i guess
[03:41] <egoleo> it tells me
[03:41] <mahangu> so i do parted help and see?
[03:41] <mahangu> does ubuntu let you use parted during the install?
[03:41] <egoleo> cann't connect to localhost
[03:41] <mahangu> i hav ehoary install and live cds
[03:41] <nalioth> mahangu: just "parted" and it will give you some options
[03:41] <egoleo> MySQL server through
[03:41] <sorush20> is ubuntu making money at all..
[03:41] <Answer> nerdy2: I don't not believe the hostname command will apply the changes
[03:41] <egoleo> socket
[03:41] <thoreauputic> mahangu: it will prompt you
[03:41] <p0windah> egoleo: then you seem to have the "mysql client" but not the "mysql server"
[03:41] <mahangu> or maybe ill just overwrite XP
[03:41] <mahangu> the thing is, ill need to do game reviews from time to time
[03:41] <mahangu> so wondering...
[03:42] <egoleo> /var/run/myqld/ msql.sock(2)
[03:42] <mahangu> brb
[03:42] <egoleo> i thought i have that installed
[03:42] <egoleo> mysql-server right
[03:42] <egoleo> i have
[03:42] <egoleo> it
[03:42] <egoleo> so whats wrong
[03:42] <egoleo> ok
[03:42] <egoleo> how do i uninstall it
[03:42] <p0windah> egoleo: type "sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server"
[03:42] <egoleo> so that i can reinstall
[03:43] <egoleo> ok
[03:43] <Answer> Question:  When I change my hostname how can apply the changes without rebooting?
[03:43] <ccooke> sorush20: hmm. Financially, ubuntu is on a pretty secure footing.
[03:43] <egoleo> i am doing that
[03:44] <Shin_Gouki> crimson , still there i now have PCi audio & internet , plz tell me again which commands i need to run!
[03:44] <thoreauputic> Answer: I imagine you might need to edit /etc/hosts
[03:44] <Answer> thoreauputic: I edited /etc/hosts, how can I apply those changes?
[03:44] <nerdy2> Answer, hostname --file <filename>  where <filename> has your new host
[03:44] <egoleo> still
[03:44] <egoleo> the same mysql error
[03:44] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , still there i now have PCi audio & internet , plz tell me again which commands i need to run!
[03:44] <egoleo> after reinstall
[03:44] <Answer> nerdy2: I changed the hostname, how can I apply the changes?
[03:44] <nerdy2> Answer, you should change /etc/hostname, and then do hostname --file /etc/hostname
[03:44] <Answer> ah
[03:45] <egoleo> it was trying to restart the mysql
[03:45] <Nvidiot> update-grub generates a whole load of options for old kernels. How do I remove those?
[03:45] <Answer> tricky
[03:45] <nerdy2> [as man hostname would tell you :)] 
[03:45] <egoleo> but couldn't
[03:45] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: for what?
[03:45] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , ALSA setup
[03:45] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: cat /proc/asound/modules
[03:45] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , really crazy the soundcard uses LOTS of system now
[03:45] <rawiramdhan> Does any1 know a highly adjustable xclock?
[03:46] <p0windah> egoleo: how long have you been messing around with installing mysql and have you ever used mysql before ?
[03:46] <rawiramdhan> I can only change my bg color
[03:46] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , u have a command for alsa setup?
[03:46] <egoleo> it says /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[03:46] <egoleo> yeah
[03:46] <egoleo> i have
[03:46] <skalca> anybody have problem vith playn net TV?
[03:46] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: just type what I asked, please
[03:46] <BooZee> does anybody here knows how can I make a Keyboard shortcut for changing the active language which I type with?
[03:46] <egoleo> i was using it on hoary
[03:47] <p0windah> egoleo: you have done something abnormal afaict
[03:47] <thoreauputic> rawiramdhan: t-cache search clock  ?
[03:47] <BiSK-8> hello
[03:47] <egoleo> like what
[03:47] <sorush20> in the xorg config when it asks for the rsync horizontal the value has no units what should I do..
[03:47] <thoreauputic> rawiramdhan: sorry apt-cache search clock ;)
[03:47] <d33p> which video player do you recommend me to use, xine suddenly has a low frame rate and totem doesn't read well the codec directory
[03:47] <p0windah> egoleo: I couldnt even begin to guess, hence "abnormal"
[03:47] <rawiramdhan> thoreauputic: I'm trying it right now
[03:47] <BiSK-8> when i configure phpmyadmin, where can i find the public_html file the one where i can determine the user and password
[03:47] <BiSK-8> ?
[03:48] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , it works :)
[03:48] <egoleo> plse try ok
[03:48] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: like I mentioned, you don't have to do a thing
[03:48] <egoleo> bcos is not working at all
[03:48] <thoreauputic> rawiramdhan:  apt-cache show <interesting looking package> to read about it :)
[03:48] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , ur right ^ ^ are u good with xmms?
[03:48] <sorush20> is XInput present on the breezy
[03:48] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: use the esound output plugin
[03:48] <egoleo> bcos i need it for some project
[03:49] <crimsun> sorush20: in universe, yes
[03:49] <pl_ice> hi
[03:49] <skalca> somebody nov how to vatch TV by net becouse totem dont vont to open .i dont nov why . Some tip?
[03:50] <Nvidiot> I seem to have a whole load of kernels installed. I want *just* the latest 686 kernel installed. How do I make this happen ?
[03:50] <StylusEater_Work> if we want to write something for ubuntu...do we have to use Python?
[03:50] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: uninstall the ones you don't need
[03:50] <egoleo> can someone show me how to install w32codecs
[03:51] <p0windah> egoleo: if you want to completely remove it, type "apt-get remove --purge mysql-server"
[03:51] <Nvidiot> thoreauputic: how?
[03:51] <ccooke> StylusEater_Work: I believe that's the *preferred* option
[03:51] <thoreauputic> !tell egoleo about w32codecs
[03:51] <StylusEater_Work> ccooke: what if I don't? will they translate or not accept?
[03:51] <egoleo> and libdvdcss2
[03:51] <egoleo> ok
[03:51] <p0windah> egoleo: then you need to make sure you dont have unofficial repos. that are mixing libs and whatnot
[03:51] <ccooke> StylusEater_Work: I would expect it would depend entirely on what you're doing and how.
[03:52] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: use your package manager and remove the ones you don't want ( linux-image-XXX)
[03:52] <Shin_Gouki> really hard question: were do i get freecell& solitr and i use Icewm NOT gnomeor KDE?
[03:52] <StylusEater_Work> ccooke: I don't have any python experience is why I ask...
[03:52] <selinium> is there anyway of downloading a website for local browsing?
[03:52] <d33p> thoreauputic, which video player do you recommend me to use?
[03:52] <selinium> hi thoreauputic :)
[03:52] <egoleo> i dont have
[03:52] <p0windah> selinium: from the commandline you can use wget..
[03:52] <ccooke> StylusEater_Work: Some tasks are better done in some particular language. Some you have lot of choice on.
[03:52] <egoleo> when trying to take it off
[03:52] <Answer> StylusEater_Work: If you write something really valuable, someone will port it if necessary
[03:52] <thoreauputic> d33p: I like totem-xine or vlc
[03:52] <StylusEater_Work> ccooke: yup, thanks
[03:52] <p0windah> selinium: curl probably does it too
[03:53] <ccooke> StylusEater_Work: for instance - if you're operating exclusively with files and programs, I'd always go for shell. It's the right idiom.
[03:53] <selinium> p0windah, I need it to get all the pages, if you see what I mean.
[03:53] <d33p> thoreauputic, gonna check vlc or try to configure totem, it isn't caching me the codecs :(
[03:53] <GDorn> well...  freenx installed, but trying to connect to it, I get "Authentication failed"
[03:53] <Nvidiot> thoreauputic: I'm currently booted in 2.6.12.16-386, I want to boot the 686 one, how do I do that?
[03:53] <thoreauputic> d33p: install totem-xine and w32codecs
[03:53] <p0windah> GDorn: you use the packaged deb's or did you roll your own from source ?
[03:53] <ccooke> StylusEater_Work: most general-case things, though, could just as well be written in python or perl or...
[03:53] <Nvidiot> thoreauputic: (after that, I can remove the -386 kernel)
[03:53] <GDorn> p0windah:  I went with the packages from that repo.
[03:53] <pybe> selinium: http://www.httrack.com/
[03:53] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: choose it from the grub boot menu on boot
[03:54] <egoleo> it is done
[03:54] <egoleo> so what do i do again
[03:54] <p0windah> GDorn: ah ok, when it was setting up, did you choose "no machine keys" ?
[03:54] <selinium> pybe: cheers, i'll take a look! :)
[03:54] <Nvidiot> thoreauputic: grub boot menu only lists memtest and one other option? Do I have to run update-grub ?
[03:54] <occy> http://www.zefix.org/schnappi.dl.am/snappie_nederlands.mp3  <-- hurt your brain.  listen.
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: hit <esc> for a menu
[03:54] <GDorn> p0windah:  I think I goofed and told it manual install...
[03:54] <GDorn> er, manual setup
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: if you have more than one kernel they should show
[03:54] <egoleo> i want the w32codecs for breezy
[03:54] <skalca> this hapen ven i vot to watch tv by internet"Totem could not play 'fd://0'.  No URI handler implemented for "fd://0""  Have enybody some idea???
[03:54] <p0windah> GDorn: dpkg-reconfigure freenx
[03:54] <selinium> hi egoleo: how did it go? the mysql thing?
[03:55] <ndlovu> any recommendations on a good (easy) program to produce flowcharts? was thinking OOo draw but thought there might be something else more appropriate.
[03:55] <d33p> thoreauputic, does vlc play full screen?
[03:55] <GDorn> ah hah!
[03:55] <egoleo> i have uninstalled it now
[03:55] <GDorn> that's how that's done
[03:55] <egoleo> so what next
[03:55] <p0windah> GDorn: :)
[03:55] <Nvidiot> thoreauputic: I ran grub-update and it finds a whole LOAD of kernels... ick. (I had a custom grub menu.lst before due to my custom install I had to do)
[03:55] <pybe> selinium: more exactly http://debian.httrack.com/
[03:55] <egoleo> selinium
[03:55] <thoreauputic> egoleo: w32codecs are w32codecs - there isn't a special breezy package
[03:55] <egoleo> what next
[03:55] <egoleo> ok
[03:55] <p0windah> GDorn: oh man, you are in for a sweet ride my friend
[03:55] <thoreauputic> d33p: sure
[03:55] <egoleo> so where do i grab it
[03:55] <egoleo> from
[03:55] <d33p> thoreauputic, don't see it, which key to do so?
[03:56] <thoreauputic> !tell egoleo about w32codecs
[03:56] <thoreauputic> d33p: try "f"
[03:56] <Answer> egoleo: do a text search on the wiki for w32codecs
[03:56] <GDorn> hehe
[03:56] <d33p> thoreauputic, using gvlc... oops what a crap, want pure vlc =)
[03:56] <d33p> thoreauputic, thanks
[03:56] <pybe> egoleo: use synaptic or apt-get
[03:56] <StylusEater_Work> Answer: HAHAHAHA!
[03:56] <selinium> Answer, lol
[03:57] <Crazy_Man> apt-get can't get w32codecs
[03:57] <GDorn> p0winhad:  well, that's new...  I time out now, instead.
[03:57] <Crazy_Man> trust me....I've tried
[03:57] <Shin_Gouki> hello can anyone plz tell me an IRC server + channel for Xmms support?
[03:57] <egoleo> pybe
[03:57] <egoleo> to do what
[03:57] <GDorn> ah.  gotta enable ssl
[03:57] <thoreauputic> !tell Crazy_Man about w32codecs
[03:57] <Shin_Gouki> i need an spc plugin for xmms
[03:57] <StylusEater_Work> Shin_Gouki: a /list won't tell ya?
[03:57] <pybe> Crazy_Man: I have apt-get installed w32codec many many times
[03:58] <thoreauputic> pybe: but the ubuntu repos no longer have it for legal reasons
[03:58] <d33p> Crazy_Man, I also have apt-get installed w32codecs, check your sources.list
[03:58] <pybe> thoreauputic: shows how uptodate I am
[03:58] <egoleo> so then where done get it from
[03:58] <pybe> thoreauputic: isnt it in multi?
[03:58] <thoreauputic> egoleo: check your msg!
[03:58] <Tbird> hello
[03:58] <GDorn> hey, it works.
[03:58] <egoleo> ok
[03:58] <jip> anybody here using dvb-card on linux?
[03:59] <thoreauputic> egoleo: ubotu told you a few minutes ago
[03:59] <thoreauputic> pybe: no
[03:59] <egoleo> yeah
[03:59] <egoleo> i ahve it
[03:59] <GDorn> now. the $64 million question...  can I use it a bit like a screen session, and reconnect to a desktop session I already have going?
[03:59] <egoleo> but what abt mysql
[03:59] <Answer> Isn't there some kind of irc tutorial we cna point theze n00berz at
[03:59] <p0windah> GDorn: close the client and a popup should appear, choose "suspend"
[04:00] <GDorn> okay, that makes sense.  what about a session that I started last night at the desktop?
[04:00] <p0windah> GDorn: once it closes, fire up the client again and you can reconnect or start a new session
[04:00] <Tbird> this is the first time i have used linux Its not a bad program
[04:00] <pybe> thoreauputic: where are they now then marillat or something?
[04:00] <d33p> thoreauputic, btw... in gvlc to fullscreen is doubleclick :P
[04:00] <thoreauputic> ubotu irc-primer is http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircprimer.html
[04:00] <ubotu> okay, thoreauputic
[04:00] <Nvidiot> why does wpa_supplicant start THREE times on bootup? I want it to start ONCE to get my wireless working
[04:00] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[04:00] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[04:01] <thoreauputic> pybe: you could have done /msg ubotu w32codecs
[04:01] <crimsun> Nvidiot: it starts once.
[04:01] <egoleo> ok
[04:01] <Budda> moin
[04:01] <Nvidiot> crimsun: it *should* start once you mean... when I reboot my laptop, it's running more than once, thus screwing up my wlan0 connection
[04:01] <crimsun> Nvidiot: it runs once on my computer.
[04:02] <Zeke1> i have installed libdvdcss2 but totem still asks if im trying to play a dvd without libdvdcss2?
[04:02] <pybe> thoreauputic: I havent been active on ubuntu for some months now due to work, havent even installed 5.04 on my new laptop yet. Whats ubotu?
[04:02] <thoreauputic> pybe: channel bot :)
[04:02] <Nvidiot> hm, well, I'll fix this kernel stuff first
[04:02] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[04:02] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:02] <umberleigh> after i've stopped a process with Ctrl+z, how do i start it again?
[04:02] <Zeke1> anybody know what could be wrong?
[04:02] <pybe> thoreauputic: nice
[04:03] <kemik> umberleigh:  fg
[04:03] <egoleo> the link for the codecs
[04:03] <Tbird> how do i change to 1024x768 in Ubuntu ( i am new to this)
[04:03] <egoleo> are not going
[04:03] <thoreauputic> !who owns you
[04:03] <ubotu> cafuego
[04:03] <Answer> umberleigh:  type "jobs"  and then type "fg job#"   to foreground that job number
[04:03] <thoreauputic> !tell Tbird about fixres
[04:03] <umberleigh> cheers
[04:03] <thoreauputic> Tbird: check your msg es
[04:03] <Tbird> thankyou
[04:04] <GDorn> oof.  it's using qwerty instead of dvorak...
[04:04] <Nvidiot> dvorak :D
[04:04] <p0windah> I use my mouse with my ear to avoid rsi
[04:05] <pl_ice> hey, someting eats my ram :/ not sure what, but after i reboot totally it's ok :/ based on gkrellm stats
[04:05] <rawiramdhan> p0windah: thats very smart, i'm gonna do that 2
[04:06] <erchache> hi
[04:06] <pybe> p0windah: no need http://www.footmouse.com/
[04:06] <GDorn> *sigh*
[04:06] <thoreauputic> pl_ice: so type   free -m when it happens, and try  top  to see what is doing it
[04:06] <erchache> how i can install a package via apt and exclude xorg-common?
[04:06] <erchache> i install my server on server mode....without x
[04:07] <thoreauputic> erchache: if something depends on xorg-common chances are it's an X app
[04:08] <pl_ice> thoreauputic top states the same info before /after free -m
[04:08] <thoreauputic> pl_ice: yes of course :/
[04:09] <thoreauputic> pl_ice: top should give you an idea what is using your RAM though
[04:09] <Answer> pl_ice: cat /proc/meminfo
[04:09] <thoreauputic> pl_ice: you can set it to sort by RAM use
[04:10] <thoreauputic> pl_ice: you relise linux uses as much RAM as possible?
[04:10] <adrian_h> In which file should I put commands that should be executed at boot time, such as "echo 2 > /sys/module/processor/parameters/max_cstate" ?
[04:10] <thoreauputic> *realise
[04:10] <p0windah> thats not entirely true
[04:10] <Answer> pl_ice:  in top, press h or ? for help.  M to sort by memory
[04:10] <thoreauputic> adrian_h: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:11] <crimsun> adrian_h: that one in particular goes in /etc/sysctl.conf
[04:11] <adrian_h> thoreauputic and crimsun: Thanks!
[04:11] <thoreauputic> p0windah: for the sake of simplicity...
[04:11] <pl_ice> thoreauputic yeh, but normally i got ~ 550 free, and it goes down now to ~ 400, i chaned from kde to gnome, but in kde i had 'float's to 4 mbs free!!
[04:11] <p0windah> pl_ice: how much ram do you have, total ?
[04:11] <Nvidiot> ok, something is not working here. I've got a wlan0 with ndiswrapper, it should come up automatically on boot, but it does not.
[04:11] <pl_ice> 775788 kB
[04:12] <adrian_h> crimsun: In /etc/sysctl.conf, do I use exactly this format? "echo 2 > /sys/module/processor/parameters/max_cstate"
[04:12] <Nvidiot> that is, it DOES come up, but netstat -rn lists *NO* routes whatsoever
[04:12] <crimsun> adrian_h: no, see the example
[04:12] <p0windah> pl_ice: try echo "10" > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[04:12] <crimsun> adrian_h: module/processor/parameters/max_cstate=2
[04:12] <p0windah> pl_ice: that wont give you more ram, but might keep things out of swap and in ram, resulting in a slightly "snappier" desktop experience
[04:12] <adrian_h> crimsun: So I don't need the "/sys" prefix?
[04:12] <aaron> anyone know of a P2P app for gnome?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> p0windah: which won't work unless he does sudo -i first, BTW
[04:13] <thoreauputic> p0windah: or uses echo with a pipe to sudo tee
[04:13] <p0windah> pl_ice: if it doesnt work, echo "60" > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[04:13] <Answer> pl_ice:  you could try   ps -ef --forest    to see the process tree :)
[04:13] <p0windah> heh
[04:13] <crimsun> adrian_h: drop /proc/sys/
[04:13] <p0windah> I typed cat the second time...
[04:13] <bpf> any of you using breezy with an IBM thinkpad? I just scored a new x40 from work yesterday and need to get the wireless and the sleep/suspend to work
[04:13] <crimsun> adrian_h: there should be two commented example lines
[04:13] <lars_g> Hey all.
[04:14] <bpf> everything else has been awesome so far
[04:14] <aaron> has anyone gotten the snes9x emu to work?
[04:14] <crimsun> bpf: I'm using an X40-2527 just fine.
[04:14] <adrian_h> crimsun: Got it
[04:14] <p0windah> pl_ice: and thoreauputic is right, you need to use sudo before those commands
[04:14] <lars_g> Question, is there any way to install without X11 and any GUI systems? I want to set up a server with ubuntu and I'm a purist, I hate X11 in servers
[04:14] <pl_ice> yeh, just gimme a sec :)
[04:14] <bpf> crimsun, did you have to do anything special to get those 2 things to work?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> p0windah: the echo won't work with sudo
[04:14] <lars_g> hey there apokryphos
[04:14] <crimsun> bpf: I did, yes, but you shouldn't have to.
[04:14] <thoreauputic> p0windah: hence my other remqrks
[04:14] <thoreauputic> *remarks
[04:14] <lars_g> apokryphos: How's life?
[04:14] <bpf> crimsun, why is that?
[04:14] <pl_ice> echo 10 did nothing
[04:14] <p0windah> just sudo -s first then
[04:14] <crimsun> bpf: because I've been testing Breezy on this for a long time.
[04:15] <egoleo> hey crimsun
[04:15] <lars_g> please? anyone?
[04:15] <egoleo> can u help me on mysql
[04:15] <crimsun> bpf: since you will dist-upgrade to Breezy (or install it fresh, then update) today, you won't have the issues I had
[04:15] <thoreauputic> p0windah: sudo -i is better  an safer
[04:15] <Answer> lars_g:  you can just remove the stuff you don't want.
[04:15] <lars_g> Answer: It't not really the idea, but...
[04:15] <bpf> crimsun, i did a dist-upgrade yesterday after installing and enabling the universe repos
[04:16] <crimsun> egoleo: I'm not a db person, sorry.
[04:16] <Answer> lars_g: Did you try installing from the cd in expert mode?
[04:16] <crimsun> bpf: you really need to be updating every hour or so
[04:16] <egoleo> i just upgraded to breezy
[04:16] <lars_g> Answer: Yes, I didn't see a package selection option
[04:16] <egoleo> and mysql
[04:16] <lars_g> Ok I'll install and remove.
[04:16] <lars_g> sigh
[04:16] <egoleo> is not working again
[04:16] <thoreauputic> lars_g: you can get nX-less server with the server option in the install
[04:16] <Nvidiot> ok, something is not working here. I've got a wlan0 with ndiswrapper, it should come up automatically on boot, but it does not. that is, it DOES come up, but netstat -rn lists *NO* routes whatsoever
[04:16] <lars_g> :)
[04:16] <lars_g> thoreauputic: it's a lilo option or a menu option?
[04:17] <bpf> crimsun, and just waiting for it to work?
[04:17] <thoreauputic> lars_g: just type " server" at the prompt, IIRC
[04:17] <crimsun> bpf: it works as of right now.
[04:17] <pl_ice> hm, unless bloody gkrellm is lying, couse top  'M' shows it's ok
[04:17] <Answer> egoleo: Try to condense your statements into one so people don't have to scroll to help you.
[04:17] <Answer> !tell egoleo about ircprimer
[04:17] <lars_g> thoreauputic: Lilo option then. thanks a lot.
[04:17] <thoreauputic> lars_g: when you see the firat screen
[04:17] <crimsun> bpf: again, you'll have missed all the bloody hacking to get it working :)
[04:17] <thoreauputic> lars_g: no it isn't as lilo option
[04:18] <Answer> !tell egoleo about irc-primer
[04:18] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[04:18] <bpf> crimsun, ah, I did not realize it was working now. things must have changed since yesterday evening
[04:18] <bpf> crimsun, glad I missed all the bloody hacking :) but appreciate all of you early adopters (i try when i have the time, it's always fun)
[04:18] <Answer> lars_g:  lilo is a boot loader, like grub.  I think you want the initial install screen where you can type options
[04:18] <Nvidiot> I also saw something like 'restoring resolver' on boot with a red [fail]  behind it (and following that an ntp error)
[04:18] <thoreauputic> Answer: he left :/
[04:19] <wolf2> how do i get and install gnucash? i have version 5.04
[04:19] <bpf> crimsun, does the wireless work with WEP keys?
[04:19] <pl_ice> ok, thnx back to matlab :/
[04:19] <thoreauputic> wolf2: sudo apt-get install gnucash
[04:19] <bpf> i tried it both ways last night with no luck
[04:19] <thoreauputic> !info gnucash
[04:19] <ubotu> gnucash: (A personal finance tracking program), section universe/gnome, is extra. Version: 1.8.9-4ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1237 kB, Installed size: 3844 kB
[04:19] <wolf2> thank you thoreauputic
[04:19] <GDorn> *sigh*  NX keeps locking up.
[04:19] <Answer> !tell wolf2 about synaptic
[04:20] <crimsun> bpf: out of the box, yes
[04:20] <thoreauputic> wolf2: you need the universe repo
[04:20] <p0windah> GDorn: ??
[04:20] <crimsun> bpf: it also works through wpasupplicant and xsupplicant
[04:20] <thoreauputic> !tell wolf2 about repos
[04:20] <bpf> crimsun, thank you for your help and patience with my n00b questions :)
[04:20] <crimsun> bpf: as well as WPA, WPA2, and 802.11x
[04:20] <bpf> excellent
[04:20] <GDorn> I dunno.  it worked a couple times, then it just stopped.  I don't get gnome, I get nothing.
[04:20] <bpf> crimsun, do you know how well breezy is working with amd64?
[04:21] <crimsun> bpf: I can't comment on the desktop amd64 experience, since I only use amd64s as pbuilders.
[04:21] <Nvidiot> anyone know anything about my wlan issue on boot? What's going on?
[04:21] <crimsun> Nvidiot: does wpasupplicant work at all?
[04:21] <p0windah> GDorn: open a terminal and "nxserver --list", you might need to "nxserver --terminate :1001"
[04:21] <Nvidiot> crimsun: yes, if I kill things, turn off the wlan0 then run ifup wlan0 it magically works again
[04:21] <dazzed> whens breezy coming out?
[04:21] <Answer> oct 13
[04:22] <dazzed> sweet
[04:22] <p0windah> dazzed: this year..
[04:22] <Zeke1> anybody know how to make dvd's go faster and not so stuttery
[04:22] <Nvidiot> crimsun: but I'd like it to work on boot instead of having to do that every time I boot my laptop
[04:22] <Nvidiot> Zeke1: enable dma
[04:22] <Answer> Zeke1: Buy a better dvd player
[04:22] <dazzed> i finally got dsl and i can finally make neccessary upgrades im so excited
[04:22] <crimsun> Nvidiot: hmm? What do you have to kill?
[04:22] <Zeke1> Nvidiot,  oh yes how do i do that
[04:22] <Answer> dazzed:  you don't have to wait for the official release, you can upgrade to breezy now if you want
[04:23] <Nvidiot> crimsun: let's say you don't have any routes on boot, what would you do to get it working?
[04:23] <Shin_Gouki> hi i need a link to a XMMS plugin site , is there such??
[04:23] <dazzed> Answer: the repos are up?
[04:23] <oxez> Shin_Gouki: xmms.org ?
[04:23] <p0windah> dazzed: yup
[04:23] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[04:23] <dazzed> tight ... i need to get off hoary
[04:23] <crimsun> Nvidiot: no, I need to know the order in which those processes are being executed.
[04:23] <dazzed> warty was better :)
[04:23] <Answer> dazzed:  Other people have been doing it.   Upgrades will occur before and after the release date so there's no reason to wait
[04:24] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: apt-cache search xmms | grep plugin
[04:24] <crimsun> Nvidiot: e.g., networking> ndiswrapper> wpasupplicant> nothing works
[04:24] <Nvidiot> crimsun: I don't fully know what I'm doing, but usually messing with ifdown wlan0 / killing wpa_supplicant / dhcp and then an ifup wlan0 does the trick
[04:24] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: you don't really need to go searching the web most of the time
[04:24] <GDorn> p0windah: yeah, that just killed the session I had started.  it was connecting and starting x, but then not starting gnome.  dunno why.  trying a reboot, just to be sure.
[04:24] <dazzed> these packages are downloading so fast ^^
[04:24] <Nvidiot> crimsun: how do I check what order it does stuff on boot?
[04:24] <crimsun> Nvidiot: if you kill wpa_supplicant, then you're not using it at all
[04:24] <Zeke1> how do i enable dma
[04:24] <Nvidiot> crimsun: it gets started again by ifup
[04:24] <Kyral> !dma
[04:25] <crimsun> Nvidiot: are you using my 0.4.5?
[04:25] <Kyral> Damnit Ubotu tell the channel not me
[04:25] <Answer> hehe
[04:25] <crimsun> Kyral: no, tell you. We don't need the dma spam, thanks. :)
[04:25] <zenrox> Zeke1,  read the howto enable dma in the ubuntuforums.org howto section
[04:25] <crimsun> Kyral: or use !tell zekel about dma
[04:25] <Answer> !tell Kyral about tell
[04:26] <Answer> hee
[04:26] <Answer> hehehe
[04:26] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, im looking for a "workin" spc plugin seems not to be listed
[04:26] <Nvidiot> crimsun: I modified my /etc/network/interfaces to run wpa_supplicant before initing the interface, and to kill dhcp before shutting down the if
[04:26] <Answer> Nvidiot: It sounds like it's running multiple times because of your changes.
[04:26] <Nvidiot> crimsun: wpa_supplicant is version 0.4.5
[04:26] <crimsun> Nvidiot: if you're using pre hooks in interfaces(5), you should know why it's starting multiple times
[04:26] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: ah OK - you're right that appears not to be in the repos :)
[04:27] <crimsun> i.e., it's your own fault it's starting that many times
[04:27] <Nvidiot> it's not starting multiple times, it's running only once right now, but my wlan0 interface doesn't work
[04:27] <crimsun> ;)
[04:27] <Nvidiot> I thought it was running multiple times, but it's not
[04:27] <Answer> Nvidiot:  ifconfig wlan0 up
[04:27] <crimsun> it shouldn't, it checks the pid file
[04:27] <Nvidiot> it *is* up, but not associated with the access point, let alone working dhcp
[04:28] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic,nono SID they had so not too bad that cmd
[04:28] <crimsun> Nvidiot: my suggestion would be to simply remove the script in /etc/rc2.d/ to start it
[04:28] <Nvidiot> crimsun: eh?
[04:28] <Answer> Nvidiot: ifconfig wlan0 ap <MAC ADDRESS>
[04:29] <crimsun> Nvidiot: if you're already hooking it from interfaces(5), there's no need for it to run via sysvinit
[04:29] <Nvidiot> Answer: wpa_supplicant has to do that for me
[04:29] <Nvidiot> crimsun: okay, I just rm S20wpasupplicant from there?
[04:29] <Answer> Nvidiot: buy a mac hehe
[04:29] <crimsun> Nvidiot: yes
[04:29] <Nvidiot> allright, rebooting the box, let's see if it comes up properly
[04:30] <Tadej`Certanc> hi ppl
[04:30] <Tadej`Certanc> how do I format partition in fat32
[04:30] <Tadej`Certanc> so i can see it on windows too
[04:31] <ezerhoden> Tadej`Certanc: cfdisk
[04:31] <Nvidiot> crimsun: 'restoring resolver state' gives a [fail] , subsequently the ntp thing a little later gives a [fail]  too
[04:31] <crimsun> Nvidiot: but your interface?
[04:31] <Nvidiot> crimsun: loading desktop, hang on
[04:32] <crimsun> it's really late for me to be playing with runlevels for it
[04:32] <GDorn> arg.  dammit, I said reboot, not hang!
[04:32] <Nvidiot> crimsun: interface is up, but no routes in netstat -rn, thus no working networking
[04:33] <crimsun> Nvidiot: so basically to get it working, you _have_ to down it and up it again?
[04:33] <Nvidiot> crimsun: ifdown wlan0 says that the iface isn't configured
[04:33] <GDorn> I'm pretty sure I typed "sudo reboot" not "sudo sit there and spin"
[04:33] <crimsun> Nvidiot: (ifconfig iface down)
[04:34] <Nvidiot> did that, now let's try ifup wlan0
[04:34] <posty> sleep
[04:34] <crimsun> Nvidiot: paste your wpa_supplicant conffile onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl. Sanitise it if necessary (if you have psks or wep keys, etc.).
[04:34] <Nvidiot> running dhcpdiscover, times out
[04:34] <crimsun> Nvidiot: also paste your /etc/default/wpasupplicant
[04:35] <Nvidiot> will do, hang on
[04:35] <Nvidiot> (will have to type them out)
[04:35] <Tadej`Certanc> I have windows on my hdb3 partition
[04:36] <Tadej`Certanc> how do I put thet in grub?
[04:36] <londonboi2k3> Hi guys, sorry, I have one otrher problem, when trying to install bzflag 2.0.2 I get an error, I have it pasted at this link http://pastebin.com/382654   Thanks
[04:37] <Nvidiot> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2754
[04:37] <Nvidiot> crimsun: let me know if you need any other info
[04:37] <jdub> anyone here subscribe to ubuntu-users via digest?
[04:38] <Answer> londonboi2k3: Get the Opkg from the sourceforge site.  It works fine for me
[04:38] <londonboi2k3> Answer, ok ill try it
[04:38] <crimsun> Nvidiot: so describe again the procedure you have to use.
[04:38] <Nvidiot> crimsun: let me see if I can get it working. I tried the ifconfig wlan0 down followed by ifup wlan0, which did not work
[04:39] <Nvidiot> crimsun: hey... due to forgetting to type sudo, I saw wpa_supplicant was running TWICE
[04:39] <thoreauputic> jdub: nice interview, dude :)
[04:39] <Nvidiot> crimsun: that could cause an issue I'd say
[04:40] <jdub> thoreauputic: thanks ;)
[04:40] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:40] <jdub> thoreauputic: you enjoying the fridge?
[04:40] <thoreauputic> so far so good - more pictures needed!
[04:40] <thoreauputic> :D
[04:40] <jdub> yeah
[04:40] <Nvidiot> crimsun: killing both of them, then running ifup wlan0 works... but why two of them spawn I don't understand
[04:40] <jdub> totally
[04:41] <Answer> haha
[04:41] <Answer> revenge of the nonops
[04:41] <crimsun> Nvidiot: which ifaces are up?
[04:41] <jdub> off-topic?!
[04:41] <thoreauputic> :D
[04:41] <Nvidiot> crimsun: lo and now, wlan0
[04:41] <crimsun> Nvidiot: (hence why it's best to use -i in /etc/default/wpasupplicant)
[04:42] <Lichte> xdm won't start; i get the following error:  iounmap: bad address d042e000
[04:42] <thoreauputic> Answer: the fridge is definitely on-topic :)
[04:42] <crimsun> (well, -i iface)
[04:42] <Lichte> any ideas on how I can fix this ?
[04:42] <Nvidiot> crimsun: let me paste my network/interfaces file
[04:42] <thoreauputic> Answer: as was jdub's interview for that matter *grin*
[04:42] <Answer> hehe
[04:42] <Answer> jdub = topic
[04:43] <GDorn> okay.  freenx is sorta working.  just a couple more things I'm a little unclear on.  can I start a session at the physical desktop, lock the screen, and connect to it with nx from elsewhere?
[04:43] <GDorn> and, if I start a session remotely, can I suspend the session and then reconnect to it from the physical desktop itself?
[04:43] <Answer> GDorn: I tried to get display zero remotely for awhile, then I gave up.  I couldn't even get a screenshot of it
[04:44] <Nvidiot> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2755
[04:44] <Hoxzer> Seems like I don't see anything on my desktop how could I get the icons back?
[04:44] <Hendric> hi got a problem with my "server" install.. i then apt-get xserver-xorg xfce4 but when i restarted.. it halts on "Starting periodic command scheduler".. what am i misssing???
[04:44] <bpf> anyone know if vmware runs on breezy? (on amd64) I want to upgrade my workstation, but need windows on occasion
[04:45] <sproingie> GDorn: far as i know, you can't take a session running on a local display and turn it into a remote one without running it under something like xonx first
[04:45] <GDorn> xonx...
[04:46] <Answer> sproingie: do you know any way to take a screenshot of display zero from a remote command line?
[04:46] <Nvidiot> crimsun: I'm thinking the extra auto wlan0 at the bottom there is the problem ?
[04:46] <sproingie> GDorn: or whatever it's called.  last time i used whatever it was called was like 10 years ago.  xnest perhaps?
[04:46] <sunshine> does anyone know about mutella
[04:46] <crimsun> Nvidiot: no, that's necessary to have the script bring up wlan0 automatically.
[04:46] <Answer> tasty chocolatey spread for crackers
[04:47] <sunshine> i need help getting mutella to work
[04:47] <crimsun> Nvidiot: which chipset are you using?
[04:47] <Nvidiot> crimsun: hmm, so why is wpa_supplicant running twice then?
[04:47] <Lichte> <homer voice> Hmmmmm, mutella </homer voice>
[04:47] <sproingie> Answer: you don't, the command line has no idea what the display looks like.  you have to get the display to appear on the display that you have screenshot capability for
[04:47] <Troels> Ello, Ubuntus. I have some technical problems as a noob to Ubuntu and programming. I need a C++-compiler. Can anybody help me?
[04:47] <sunshine> i dont know what i'm meant to download and how i'm meant to access it
[04:47] <Nvidiot> crimsun: the wireless card chipset? Dell truemobile 1350, I believe that's a broadcom chip
[04:47] <nightswim> apt-get install g++
[04:47] <crimsun> Nvidiot: let it run & fail, and look at the output of ps -ef
[04:47] <Trackilizer> Is there a way one can get time stamp in bitchx?
[04:47] <sproingie> Trackilizer: try #bitchx
[04:47] <nalioth> Troels: install build-essential
[04:48] <elad`> How do I install Ubuntu alongside WinXP?
[04:48] <GDorn> ouch.  nested x server.  that makes my brain hurt.
[04:48] <Nvidiot> crimsun: as in, I should reboot, then look at ps -ef ?
[04:48] <Hoxzer> damn...
[04:48] <Tadej`Certanc> hi I added win to grub, but I cant start win.
[04:48] <crimsun> Nvidiot: that will tell you which two processes invoked wpa_supplicant
[04:48] <nalioth> nightswim: build-essential installs a pretty rounded array of compiling stuff
[04:48] <Hoxzer> what is the name of the software that shows the desktop icons?
[04:48] <Hoxzer> so I can restart it
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Trackilizer: sudo apt-get remove --purge bitchx && sudo apt-get install irssi-text *g*
[04:48] <Nvidiot> crimsun: allright, give me a minute
[04:48] <crimsun> Nvidiot: sure, if that's most efficient for you
[04:48] <sproingie> GDorn: xnest it is ... tho i think freedesktop.org has a modern replacement for it
[04:48] <nalioth> elad`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[04:49] <elad`> Thanks.
[04:49] <Nvidiot> crimsun: it can probably be done otherwise, but I'll do it this way :)
[04:49] <bpf> Hoxzer, crtl-alt-backspace will restart gnome
[04:49] <Hoxzer> bpf: doesn't help
[04:49] <Hoxzer> I alreayd tried it
[04:49] <bpf> :(
[04:49] <Lichte> xdm won't start; i get the following error:  iounmap: bad address d042e000    Any ideas on how to fix this ?
[04:50] <Hoxzer> this like really suck cause I shouldn't have to boot linux system
[04:50] <GDorn> can I use just X to forward display zero?
[04:50] <Nvidiot> crimsun: the resolver and NTP still fail on boot, now logging in to desktop
[04:50] <GDorn> with an x server at my end?
[04:50] <Oboro> can i d/l and use the breezy preview now? or should i wait till the 13th?
[04:50] <snausages> there's an icon in my notification area that updates are available, but when i click on it, synaptic wont start
[04:50] <snausages> can anyone help me out with that?
[04:50] <Tadej`Certanc> Can someone help me, I get this error while booting windows
[04:50] <Tadej`Certanc> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2756
[04:50] <Troels> nightswim: I need to be logged in as root then, aye?
[04:51] <Oboro> is the final version of breezy released yet?
[04:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Troels about root
[04:51] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i install printer under ubuntuu? i have HP DJ 690c
[04:51] <nalioth> Oboro: oct 13
[04:51] <Oboro> soso what's that link over there?
[04:52] <fredforfaen> whats up peeps
[04:52] <Oboro> if the final ver. is colony 5
[04:52] <sunshine> does anyone know how to set up mutella
[04:52] <Nvidiot> crimsun: only one wpa_supplicant now, but, wireless doesn't work
[04:52] <Oboro> and i can d/l it now from the ubuntu website
[04:52] <Nvidiot> crimsun: still no route. wpa_supplicant was started by pid 1, init
[04:53] <Oboro> so why does it say it's only going to be released on the 13th of October?
[04:53] <Troels> nalioth: It asks me to put in a Cd now.
[04:53] <nalioth>  sunshine open a terminal and type mutella --help
[04:53] <nalioth> Oboro: you are d/l a preview release
[04:53] <Answer> Oboro:  The 'official' version will be released on October 13th.  'final' version probably doesn't exist
 Can someone help me, I get this error while booting windows
 http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2756
[04:53] <Oboro> what's the difference?
[04:53] <Answer> Tadej`Certanc: You probably specified the wrong partition with (hd1,2)
[04:54] <avalost> !e17
[04:54] <ubotu> I heard e17 is the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Oboro: hindreds of updated pacjkages
[04:54] <Oboro> will there be any difference between the colony 5 i can d/l today and the one i can d/l in ten days?
[04:54] <Tadej`Certanc> Answer: I have my win partition on hdb3
[04:54] <pie> still no sound...
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Oboro: scroll up
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Oboro: if you keep updating, you will have the same thing on the 23th
[04:55] <thoreauputic> *13th
[04:55] <Answer> Tadej`Certanc: In the error msg you pasted, (hd1,2) refers to the harddrive,partition of windows.  make sure that is correct
[04:55] <sunshine> nalioth it said event 8155386 recieved at 15:53 finished scaning directories :1 files:0 size: 0 mbytes
[04:55] <Johansson> hi
[04:55] <avalost> ubotu, forget e17
[04:55] <ubotu> i forgot e17, avalost
[04:55] <Johansson> i just upgraded to breezy
[04:55] <ninotchka> hi
[04:55] <avalost> ubotu, e17 is e17 is the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org Install HOWTO at: http://www.gawth.org/?id=lin
[04:55] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, avalost
[04:55] <tux-rox> Tadej`Certanc, It looks correct to me. Has it worked in the past?
[04:55] <nalioth> sunshine: what are we discussing?
[04:55] <thoreauputic> avalost: erm - why did you wipe that factoid?
[04:55] <Johansson> faad doesn't work
[04:55] <Nvidiot> Tadej`Certanc: your windows is on harddisk 2, partition 3? (grub starts counting at 0)
[04:55] <Oboro> any disadentage of using fat32 in linux as oppose to ext3?
[04:55] <Answer> Johansson: Try to condense your statemnts into one so people don't have to scroll to help you.
[04:56] <Oboro> and what's ReiserFS?
[04:56] <thoreauputic> ah - as you were :)
[04:56] <avalost> thoreauputic, because i created it, and i am updating it
[04:56] <fredforfaen> i cant use ssh or ftp , nor mail...how do i transfer 50 mb to another dude then?
[04:56] <sunshine> nalioth: mutella is meant to be like kazaa and i mesh i should be able to download mp3 and music but i dont know how to do that
[04:56] <thoreauputic> avalost: yup - sorry :)
[04:56] <Nvidiot> Oboro: fat32 doesn't support any of the security features. Not a good idea
[04:56] <Tadej`Certanc> Nvidiot: so it is correct (hd1,2)?
[04:56] <Nvidiot> Oboro: ext3 is the default
[04:56] <Lordveda> Please what is the root password for the ubuntu live CD?
[04:56] <Oboro> ok thanx
[04:56] <avalost> ubotu, e17 is the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org Install HOWTO at: http://www.gawth.org/?id=lin
[04:56] <ubotu> okay, avalost
[04:56] <nalioth> sunshine: perhaps you should see the mutella hompage for instructions
[04:56] <thoreauputic> avalost: I jumped the gun :)
[04:56] <Nvidiot> Tadej`Certanc: IF windows is on that harddisk and partition, maybe
[04:56] <nalioth> Lordveda: there is none
[04:56] <avalost> no prob there quick-draw :P
[04:56] <basvg> hi, I noticed that backports is dead... is there a replacement (I'm still on Hoary) ... ?
[04:56] <Johansson> ok. gstreamer-faad doesn't seems to work with banshee nor with rhythmbox, in breezy
[04:56] <Oboro> what about ReiserFS?
[04:56] <sunshine> i went to the mutella page it bear share
[04:57] <Answer> Oboro: You would be better informed googling the different filesystems.
[04:57] <Tadej`Certanc> Nvidiot: it is
[04:57] <Tadej`Certanc>     hdb3        Boot        Primary   NTFS             []               10001.95
[04:57] <Oboro> thanx
[04:57] <Nvidiot> Oboro: another option instead of ext3, check wikipedia or so
[04:57] <Answer> Lordveda:  Try "sudo su -"
[04:57] <crimsun> Nvidiot: so it's the wpa_supplicant that's being started from pre-up
[04:57] <Nvidiot> Tadej`Certanc: for grub that's indeed 1,2... weird
[04:57] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[04:57] <fredforfaen> ideas?
[04:57] <Lordveda> Answer, authentication failure
[04:57] <Nermal> fredforfaen: why can't you use ssh or ftp ?
[04:57] <Nvidiot> crimsun: yes, looks like it. That begs the question, why does it not work at that stage ?
[04:58] <Answer> fredforfaen: What are you trying to do specifically?
[04:58] <Answer> Lordveda: try "sudo passwd root"
[04:58] <pie> Hello, is ther any-one who can / want to help with a sound problem?
[04:58] <Lordveda> thanks
[04:58] <tautologico> so, what's the right venue for asking about packages?
[04:58] <fredforfaen> i want to move one zipfile from this computer over to another computer on the internet , Answer
[04:58] <crimsun> Nvidiot: timing issue; you probably need to experiment with sleep values
[04:59] <Answer> fredforfaen: Are they windows or linux?
[04:59] <fredforfaen> Nermal i have no ftp or ssh access there
[04:59] <pussfeller> fredforfaen: make a torrent? use dcc? use amule or mldonkey? export via samba as a windows share?
[04:59] <fredforfaen> Answer windows
[04:59] <crimsun> pie: what sort?
[04:59] <Tadej`Certanc> Nvidiot: how can I make my win partition work?
[04:59] <Nvidiot> crimsun: the pre-up causes it to start too soon? How would I fix that?
[04:59] <fredforfaen> pussfeller good ideas
[04:59] <Nvidiot> Tadej`Certanc: I don't know, sorry
[04:59] <pie> No sound afther installing this linux version
[04:59] <nalioth> Tadej`Certanc: what do you want to do?
[04:59] <crimsun> Nvidiot: no, there's not enough time following the pre-up.
[04:59] <avalost> thoreauputic, care to do me a quick favor?
[04:59] <pussfeller> use the file sharing app in kde or install a webserver...
[04:59] <basvg> is there a replacement for the backports...?
[04:59] <Answer> fredforfaen: run an ftp server like cerberus
[04:59] <crimsun> Nvidiot: you probably need && sleep someval
[05:00] <thoreauputic> avalost: if possible, sure :)
[05:00] <Answer> fredforfaen: or run an http server like apache
[05:00] <Tadej`Certanc> nalioth: run winxp on hdb3 partition
[05:00] <JustSomeone> enable services
[05:00] <fredforfaen> Answer on the windows machine?
[05:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Tadej`Certanc about ntfs
[05:00] <Troels> shortcut for terminal?
[05:00] <Nvidiot> crimsun: okay... any suggestion for some sensible starting point ?
[05:00] <avalost> thoreauputic, check http://gawth.org/?id=lin and make sure the howto and get-e files are readable to the outside world
[05:00] <crimsun> Nvidiot: 5 seconds?
[05:00] <avalost> ?
[05:00] <Aragorn_Guardian> !find postgresql
[05:00] <basvg> when I add deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main then I get an error about missing a pubkey..
[05:00] <Tadej`Certanc> nalioth: I dont want to mount it
[05:01] <abyss_> !xvid
[05:01] <nalioth> basvg: you will kill your box adding that line
[05:01] <ubotu> abyss_: Are you on ritalin?
[05:01] <Tadej`Certanc> nalioth: I want to boot it with grub
[05:01] <crimsun> basvg: wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[05:01] <abyss_> !codecs
[05:01] <ubotu> hmm... codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:01] <pie> crimsun: hard-ware is not regignised
[05:01] <basvg> nalioth: oh..? why's that?
[05:01] <Nvidiot> crimsun: so the thing becomes pre-up wpa_supplicant_stuff && sleep 5  ?
[05:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell abyss_ about w32codecs
[05:01] <crimsun> pie: laptop? desktop?
[05:01] <crimsun> Nvidiot: ye
[05:01] <crimsun> p
[05:01] <Nvidiot> crimsun: okay, retrying (reboot again)
[05:01] <pie> crisim:Desktop
[05:01] <nalioth> basvg: debian pkgs are different enough to bring your ubuntu box to a grinding halt
[05:01] <Johansson> does anybody know why gstreamer-faad doesn't work?
[05:02] <crimsun> pie: new computer (within 3 years)
[05:02] <crimsun> ?
[05:02] <sorush20> how do I copy the hole directory form one palce to another..
[05:02] <basvg> nalioth: hmm, I was only folowing the instructions on the RestrictedFormats wikipage..
[05:02] <thoreauputic> avalost: howto is fine - did you mean get_e.sh?
[05:02] <Nvidiot> basvg: you can ignore that for the win32codecs. Do *NOT* get any other packages from that source because it'll likely break stuff
[05:02] <avalost> thoreauputic, yes, both
[05:02] <pie> crisum:No...., Pent.2 / 500/256/etc.
[05:02] <sorush20> sudo cp -r /home/sam/malt /dvar/www/alborz.uk.com
[05:02] <Johansson> oh, i found it ->  However, this currently is problematic, and does not produce usable AAC files, though this may change in the future
[05:02] <nalioth> basvg: what are you seeking?
[05:02] <basvg> Nvidiot: oh ok, thanks
[05:02] <basvg> nalioth: acroread
[05:03] <thoreauputic> avalost: get_e.sh prompts me for a download here
[05:03] <basvg> nalioth: the 5something version doesn't work
[05:03] <avalost> thoreauputic, ok, cool thanks
[05:03] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i install my scanner(HP scanjet 3500c) and how do i scan images towards "gimp"??
[05:03] <nalioth> basvg: see seveas when he shows up, he has ubuntu packages
[05:03] <avalost> much appreciated
[05:03] <pie> crimsum:No...., Pent.2 / 500/256/etc.
[05:03] <Seveas> nalioth, acroread 7 has landed in breezy multiverse
[05:03] <Seveas> I have removed them from my repo already
[05:03] <thoreauputic> avalost: np :)
[05:03] <pie> crimsun:No...., Pent.2 / 500/256/etc.
[05:04] <pussfeller> in gimp, you go to aquire images or some such, maybe import
[05:04] <basvg> Seveas: I'm still on hoary .. I got them from the backports a while ago but did a fresh install of my laptop (switched from win to ubuntu) ..
[05:04] <nalioth> Seveas: ok then the restrictedformats page needs to be updates. it's sending folks to debian repos
[05:04] <bigcx2> Shin_Gouki: check if that model is supported under linux and if it is and scanning is supported you can use xsane for scanning
[05:04] <Seveas> nalioth, check
[05:04] <bigcx2> look on hp's website
[05:04] <pussfeller> once its recognized by SANE it will be available for all apps that use scanners
[05:04] <Nvidiot> crimsun: thank you! That did the trick :D
[05:04] <grayman> hey
[05:04] <basvg> Seveas: but it seems backports is dead so.. not sure where to get them now
[05:04] <crimsun> Nvidiot: thought so.
[05:05] <nalioth> basvg: if you are gonna add anything, add SOURCE repos only and build what you want
[05:05] <VoX> when in the hell is vlc going to be available in breezy for amd64?
[05:05] <Seveas> basvg, grab it from breezy
[05:05] <grayman> i have a minor problem here. at the boot time it tries to synch with time server and it worked good at first boot, but now it always fails. Any ideas why?
[05:05] <Troels> nalioth: Thanks a lot! It worked.
[05:05] <bigcx2> i have vlc in amd64
[05:05] <Seveas> nalioth, I don't see it mentioned on RestrictedFormate
[05:05] <JustinHH> tell me about w32codecs
[05:05] <nalioth> VoX: add the source repos and build vlc
[05:05] <Nvidiot> crimsun: now I thought the resolver gave the error, but it was 'mounting local filesystems' what's that about?
[05:05] <JustinHH> tell JustinHH about w32codecs
[05:05] <Troels> nalioth: Do you know some wiki or something like that for using it?
[05:05] <VoX> nalioth: i tried that. didnt work
[05:05] <JustinHH> !tell JustinHH about w32codecs
[05:05] <basvg> Seveas: hehe, I'll try... but I think it also wants higher libc stuff... I'll figure it out, or wait untill breezy is released
[05:05] <nalioth> basvg: where was debian mentioned on the restrictedformats page?
[05:06] <BlueEagle> nvidiot: That's mounting the entries in /etc/fstab
[05:06] <crimsun> Nvidiot: hmm, perhaps malformed line in /etc/fstab?
[05:06] <nalioth> Troels: what are we discussing?
[05:06] <butcherbird> is slapd comparable to active directory?
[05:06] <crimsun> pie: what speed?
[05:06] <Troels> nalioth: g++
[05:06] <Seveas> basvg, grab the debs and dpkg -i --force-depends
[05:06] <BlueEagle> nvidiot: If you've got more than one partition there (bar swap) there it will attempt to mount them. If it fails one of the lines are malformed.
[05:06] <basvg> nalioth: I followed it top to bottom... think it was in the DVD section.
[05:06] <Troels> nalioth: I just installed it.
[05:06] <crimsun> pie: oh, 500 MHz?
[05:06] <nalioth> Troels: if you've installed build-essential, it is up to you to learn how to use the tools
[05:06] <basvg> Seveas: thanks... lemme try
[05:06] <pie> crimsun: 500 MHz, it's a soundblaster 32, but the hard-ware sees all kind off other funny names, accept soundblaster..
[05:06] <Nvidiot> BlueEagle: I'll paste my fstab on the paste site, hang on
[05:07] <Chase> does anyone know what the easyest way to upgrate 'Wireless Extension' to version 18 or above is? my system is fully up-todate but im still only running version 17??
[05:07] <Troels> nalioth: Aye, sorry.
[05:07] <pussfeller> butcherbird: slapd is for openldap, which is more of a database style thingee than active directory, altho, i think AD uses a form of ldap
[05:07] <crimsun> pie: try: sudo modprobe snd-sbawe
[05:07] <butcherbird> pussfeller: so not really like a linux alternative to AD?
[05:08] <paca> active directory is ldap
[05:08] <Nvidiot> BlueEagle: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2757
[05:08] <nalioth> Seveas: marillat is still with us
[05:08] <Nvidiot> BlueEagle: hmm, I think I see the problem. fd0 probably doesn't exist because it's a removable floppydrive and not currently inserted
[05:08] <paca> Sun directory and all the oter directories are ldap too.
[05:09] <pie> crimsun: as on a command-line
[05:09] <crimsun> pie: yes
[05:09] <Troels> Seems like I ran into a bug...
[05:09] <pie> crimsun: oke, be right back..
[05:09] <crimsun> pie: you can do it from Terminal or Konsole, too
[05:10] <basvg> hmmm, think I even found the hoary.deb's on nl.archive.ubuntu.com.. that could work
[05:10] <butcherbird> pussfeller: should prob google this is guess might get pretty involved thx for the reply
[05:10] <BlueEagle> nvidiot: fd0 won't cause an error at boot because it's noauto
[05:10] <abyss_>  where i can get the xvid codec?
[05:10] <BlueEagle> nvidiot: that means that it won't try to automatically load it.
[05:10] <Nvidiot> BlueEagle: hm, what then? O.o
[05:10] <basvg> yay!
[05:11] <basvg> thanks guys
[05:11] <pie> crimsun: back, nothing..
[05:11] <BlueEagle> nvidiot: I found it
[05:11] <crimsun> pie: it returned you to a prompt immediately?
[05:11] <BlueEagle> nvidiot: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2758
[05:11] <BlueEagle> nvidiot: See the difference?
[05:12] <JustinHH> i have downloaded a firefox plugin called realplayer10gold.bin ! how can i activate or use a mozzila plugin?
[05:12] <BlueEagle> nvidiot: before you alter it try this: sudo swapon -a
[05:12] <pie> crimsun: nothing.., no prompt. just nothing
[05:12] <Seveas> JustinHH, that's not a firefoxplugin
[05:12] <bigcx2> mozplugger
[05:12] <Seveas> !tell JustinHH about restricted
[05:12] <pussfeller> i never had no love from ldap, good luck
[05:12] <crimsun> pie: the computer hung?
[05:12] <BlueEagle> nvidiot: If it doesn't find any swap partitions that will be the error.l
[05:12] <BlueEagle> nvidiot: if not I don't know. :)
[05:13] <basvg> hmm... why do i get the impression that my sources.list is wrong.. it seems to be missing the multiverse eventhough it's in there..
[05:13] <JustinHH> Seveas, well that on http://www.real.com/linux/?rppr=rnwk&src=040104freeplayer
[05:13] <Nvidiot> BlueEagle: it runs fine... should I modify it anyway ?
[05:13] <pie> crimsun: ani suggestions.. (top, under..)
[05:13] <crimsun> pie: you need to answer the question first
[05:13] <Nvidiot> BlueEagle: or maybe you know which logfile this would be logged in?
[05:13] <Hoxzer> Now...
[05:13] <pie> crimsun: sorry, just read :computer-hugg..
[05:14] <Hoxzer> how I can defind what softwares start when I login?
[05:14] <pie> crimsun: no, there was no reports, no responds, just nothing!
[05:14] <Hoxzer> *define
[05:14] <nalioth> Hoxzer: system > prefs > sessions
[05:14] <thoreauputic> Hoxzer: or ~/.gnomerc
[05:14] <crimsun> pie: you need to be very explicit. Does the computer hang (as in you have to reset it), or does the bash prompt come back?
[05:15] <Nvidiot> BlueEagle: from man fstab: The second field, (fs_file), describes the mount point for the filesystem. For swap partitions, this field should be specified as `none'
[05:15] <thoreauputic> Hoxzer: that file might have to be created though
[05:16] <pie> crimsun:nothing!, i'll try again then..
[05:16] <dreamwave> good morning.  how do i change the cpu freq?  it seems to be stuck at 70%.
[05:16] <JustinHH> Seveas, Package realplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:16] <crimsun> pie: "nothing" doesn't tell me anything useful.
[05:16] <JustinHH> E: Package realplayer has no installation candidate
[05:17] <StylusEater_Work> any oracle users in here?
[05:18] <sam_> anyone experience an error on a printer after the print job is completed?
[05:18] <Nvidiot> BlueEagle: any idea which logfile I'd have to look in for more info about this error ?
[05:18] <nitzan> ?
[05:18] <nitzan> ops
[05:19] <Nvidiot> :
[05:19] <Nvidiot> :( even
[05:19] <nalioth> JustinHH: execute your file you d/l
[05:19] <JustinHH> ?
[05:20] <nalioth> JustinHH: did you d/l a file for plugins?
[05:20] <JustinHH> no
[05:20] <JustinHH> what is d/l
[05:20] <JustinHH> ?
[05:20] <thoreauputic> nalioth: realplay sets up plugins during install IIRC
[05:21] <elad`> I have on harddisk drive partitioned this way - C: and D:, both 30GB, Windows resides on C:. How do I install Ubuntu on the D:?
[05:21] <thoreauputic> JustinHH: the realplay blah blah "gold" you got has to be run as an install scipt
[05:21] <nalioth> 10:11 < JustinHH> i have downloaded a firefox plugin called realplayer10gold.bin ! how can i activate or use a mozzila
[05:21] <nalioth>                   plugin?
[05:21] <Nvidiot> elad`: boot from the ubuntu cd, remove the second partition and install ubuntu there
[05:21] <thoreauputic> JustinHH: the instructions are on the website
[05:22] <nalioth> JustinHH: open a terminal where the file is, and type ./realplayer10gold.bin
[05:22] <JustinHH> ok
[05:22] <nalioth> JustinHH: and d/l is short for download
[05:22] <zAo^> any Breezy ppl who use UFRAW?
[05:22] <JustinHH> ahhhh
[05:22] <deFrysk>  chmod +x it first
[05:22] <thoreauputic> JustinHH: accept the defaults and let it set up symlinks for you
[05:22] <JustinHH> :))
[05:23] <Nvidiot> anyone know why I get an error on mounting local filesystems? (Or what logfile I'd have to look at for more info?)
[05:24] <GDorn> okay, freenx crashes after being idle for a few minutes.
[05:24] <GDorn> takes my whole computer with it.
[05:24] <[LethAL] > GDorn, do you have a Windows Emulator running? :P
[05:25] <GDorn> nope.
[05:25] <tyrchyus> hi I've a problem.. my connection start then two minutes go dow
[05:25] <[LethAL] > tyrchyus, More info please? Type of connection?
[05:25] <tyrchyus> in resolv.conf the nameserver is only one
[05:25] <Tadej`Certanc> hi ppl
[05:25] <Tadej`Certanc> Im back
[05:25] <tyrchyus> the connection is adsl ethernet
[05:26] <Tadej`Certanc> I still cant boot windows
[05:26] <tyrchyus> alice you know?
[05:26] <[LethAL] > ADSL Ethernet? That's quite an odd one
[05:26] <pie> crimsun: still there?
[05:26] <[LethAL] > I have no idea, sorry :(
[05:26] <dieman> anyone else have acpi suspend break on them recently?
[05:27] <GDorn> ooookaaaay...  computer wasn't crashed, just that session, which I can't reconnect to.
[05:27] <GDorn> this just isn't stable.
[05:27] <pie> crimsun: still there?
[05:27] <pie> ...............help!
[05:27] <Nvidiot> dieman: suspend to ram works, I'm trying hibernate at this moment
[05:28] <nalioth> pie: ask a question to the channel
[05:28] <tyrchyus> nothing [LethAL]  thank you
[05:28] <Balduran> hi
[05:28] <Nvidiot> hibernate doesn't seem to work, screen goes off, but power stays on it looks like
[05:29] <[LethAL] > Nvidiot, Same for me
[05:29] <[LethAL] > Which mobo?
[05:29] <dieman> Nvidiot: hrm
[05:29] <Nvidiot> [LethAL] : Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop
[05:29] <Balduran> can somebody help me with my tv-card?? i dont get a signal from my sat-receiver.. im searching for it but tvtime dont find the sat-receiver :(
[05:29] <dieman> Nvidiot: ram broke for me.
[05:29] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, how di i install a printer HP DJ 690C , without having gmone, apt-get install cupsomatic-ppd DID not ssem towork
[05:29] <FarrisG> I finally got wireless working on my laptop
[05:29] <dieman> Nvidiot: or perhaps im going to hibernate now by mistake with the new acpi-support
[05:29] <[LethAL] > Nvidiot, that's not a Motherboard ;)
[05:29] <Demian___> does anyone here use skype?
[05:29] <dieman> Nvidiot: theres a new kernel im installing....
[05:29] <Demian___> and hi
[05:29] <Demian___> :)
[05:29] <FarrisG> However, are there any tools to automatically down the wireless interface when the wired interface is up?
[05:29] <Nvidiot> [LethAL] : I know, but I don't know what motherboard this laptop uses
[05:29] <dreamwave> is there a way to have rhythmbox use a different sound card?  i have 2 installed.
[05:30] <[LethAL] > Nvidiot, I gathered that too, don't worry
[05:30] <Nvidiot> FarrisG: I use the network config tool with 2 different locations. It's not automated however
[05:30] <pie> nalioth: I was before rebooting try-ing with crimsun to find a sollutian for having "no sound" afther installing this linux.. Is there anybody els witch can help me? (it's my first install )
[05:30] <FarrisG> Nvidiot: I'll try that, doesn't seem too much a hassle
[05:30] <Shin_Gouki> Hello, how do i install a printer HP DJ 690C , without having gnome, apt-get install cupsomatic-ppd DID not seem to work?
[05:31] <nalioth> pie: if you ask your question, someone may know
[05:32] <Happu> Hey, if i update my system (i think i do it when 5.10 is offically out) do i have to download the whole backage (650mb)?
[05:32] <pie> nalioth: I have "no sound" afther installing this linux.. Is there anybody els witch can help me? (it's my first install )
[05:32] <Balduran> can somebody help me with my tv-card?? i dont get a signal from my sat-receiver.. im searching for it but tvtime dont find the sat-receiver :(
[05:32] <[LethAL] > Happu, no, not the CD, but downloading the updates may be around the same size
[05:32] <thoreauputic> !tell Happu about upgrade2breezy
[05:32] <sas171> Hello, how to install lisq under Hoary?
[05:32] <slibs> hello hello, any program to make xvid -> dvd?
[05:33] <Nvidiot> anyone know why I get an error on mounting local filesystems? (Or what logfile I'd have to look at for more info?)
[05:33] <thoreauputic> sas171: did you mean licq ?
[05:33] <zAo^> damn, bug in ufraw :( now what?
[05:33] <pie> How do I install the -correct driver- for my soundblaster 32? Ani0one?
[05:34] <koodars> Hello, I just installed ubuntu 5.10, and i head that it has newest ati drivers already, how do i install them?
[05:34] <slibs> Nvidiot: how do you try to mount?
[05:34] <koodars> heard*
[05:34] <thoreauputic> !ati
[05:34] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[05:34] <sas171> thoreauputic: yes
[05:34] <thoreauputic> !info licq
[05:34] <ubotu> licq: (ICQ client (base files)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.3.0-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 614 kB, Installed size: 1912 kB
[05:34] <pie> How do I install the -correct driver- for my soundblaster 32? Ani-one?
[05:34] <thoreauputic> sas171: you need the universe repo
[05:34] <Nvidiot> slibs: it's on boot, so I'd say that it's an fstab error, but the config looks good to me....
[05:35] <JustSomeone> Heya, how do you set up a nic in ubuntu?  I was guessing you went to system-->administration-->networking, am I right?
[05:35] <thoreauputic> sas171: but you realise gaim does icq, right?
[05:35] <grayman> sas171, you might want to use gaim. it supports icq
[05:35] <pie> How do I install the -correct driver- for my soundblaster 32? ...Help?
[05:35] <Nvidiot> slibs:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2757 that's my /etc/fstab
[05:36] <Shin_Gouki> hi! Which command on shell do i have to use to mount a USB stick??
[05:36] <slibs> Nvidiot: try winmac_fstab script?
[05:36] <Nvidiot> slibs: eh?
[05:36] <silvertear> hello all
[05:37] <slibs> Nvidiot: google with that name
[05:37] <silvertear> i have just swtiched from ps/2 mouse to an optical usb mouse, and it is not working, the light is not on, what should i do to fix it?
[05:37] <FarrisG> How do you configure the system to run a script when you up or down an interface?
[05:37] <Nvidiot> slibs: I do not have ANY NTFS/FAT/HFS+ partitions. partition 1 is swap, number 2 is reiserfs and /
[05:37] <Nvidiot> slibs; that's it
[05:38] <sas171> thoreauputic: yes, I'm not used to Gaim and want some app like icq lite. How to add that repo? wether url?
[05:38] <spola> FarrisG, do "man 5 interfaces"
[05:38] <thoreauputic> !tell sas171 about repos
[05:38] <slibs> Nvidiot: okay then i dunno
[05:38] <spola> and put i think "post wget http://boobs.porn" under the interface you need
[05:38] <JustSomeone> lol
[05:39] <egoleo> still mysqld
[05:39] <egoleo> not found
[05:39] <egoleo> any help
[05:39] <sas171> thoreauputic: thank you
[05:39] <thoreauputic> sas171: yw :)
[05:39] <Nvidiot> slibs: any idea which log I'd have to look in ?
[05:40] <pie> Shin_Gouki: just plu it in, it suppos to end on your" Computer" (locations)
[05:40] <JustinHH> is it imoprtent where i installed realplay? i instaled it in /home/username/programs/realplay? this messafe apears: Could not find an apropiate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use an embedded player
[05:40] <pie> Shin_Gouki: just plug it in, it suppos to end on your" Computer" (locations)
[05:40] <egoleo> how to use bitorent
[05:40] <JustinHH> this means that i should install also realplayer?
[05:40] <Shin_Gouki> pie, no i dont use gnome nor KDE so it doenst work that way
[05:40] <JustinHH> *message
[05:40] <thoreauputic> JustinHH: jst make a link in your path
[05:41] <pie> Shin_Gouki: what do you use
[05:41] <X3ndou> Hey, could anyone help me install OpenMotif in Hoary
[05:41] <pie> Shin_Gouki: what do you use?
[05:41] <JustinHH> thoreauputic, this message appears in firefox when i am trying to hear a radio on-line....
[05:41] <JustSomeone> Hey, I get this error when I log in with gnome: "Could not look up Internet address for %machinename, this will prevent Gnome from working correctly. It may be possible to correct the problem by adding %machinename to the file /etc/hosts." The fix seems simple enough, but I cant sudo, any suggestions?
[05:42] <pie> How do I install the -correct driver- for my soundblaster 32? (Gnome)...Help?
[05:42] <[LethAL] > JustSomeone, you did expert install, didn't you?
[05:42] <JustSomeone> No, I don't think so
[05:42] <[LethAL] > Well if sudo doesn't work... that's really the only reason why
[05:42] <JustSomeone> I don't think I would intentionally do expert install lol
[05:42] <Shin_Gouki> pie: icewm
[05:43] <JustSomeone> No no, i'm getting an error that it cant find the profile or w/e
[05:43] <[LethAL] > Did you enter a root password?
[05:43] <JustSomeone> because gnome cant fidn my host name
[05:43] <[LethAL] > (On setup)
[05:43] <pie> Shin_Gouki: on the command line
[05:43] <JustSomeone> No I didnt
[05:43] <pie> Shin_Gouki: on the command line/
[05:43] <douglas> what package do I need for X includes?
[05:43] <pie> Shin_Gouki: on the command line?
[05:43] <K^Holtz> pie: do you say everything more than once?
[05:44] <Shin_Gouki> pie , yes i need the command switch
[05:44] <thoreauputic> douglas: probably xlibs-dev
[05:44] <pie> soory!
[05:44] <[LethAL] > JustSomeone, you'll need to use recovery mode
[05:44] <silvertear> hey can someone that is running an optical mouse give me the mouse section of their xorg.conf?
[05:44] <pie> sorory!
[05:44] <douglas> aye thanks
[05:44] <pie> sorry!
[05:44] <thoreauputic> douglas: or x-window-system-dev
[05:44] <JustSomeone> hmmm, ok
[05:44] <[LethAL] > JustSomeone, when you do, add the next line to /etc/hosts
[05:44] <nalioth> douglas: and xlibs-static-dev
[05:44] <FarrisG> Nvidiot: When I setup a location, then deactivate the wireless interface for that location, then next time I switch to that location, it keeps the wireless interface activated
[05:44] <JustSomeone> Ok
[05:44] <[LethAL] > JustSomeone, 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost <machinename>
[05:44] <chrissturm> whats a good way to transfer my root filesystem to another harddrive?
[05:44] <JustSomeone> Yeah, thanks ^^
[05:44] <[LethAL] > JustSomeone, You know your machine name, don't you?
[05:45] <JustSomeone> I just needed a way to edit it, since I couldnt sudo
[05:45] <JustSomeone> Yes I do
[05:45] <[LethAL] > While you're at it...
[05:45] <silvertear> ubotu tell me about breezy
[05:45] <JustSomeone> I still have to set up my nic too :
[05:45] <mahangu> ubotu tell me about the meaning of life
[05:45] <JustinHH> is anybody still here 2 help me? pls
[05:45] <mahangu> :S
[05:45] <Kyral> mahangu, the answer is 42
[05:46] <[LethAL] > run visudo and copy the bottom line (about root and ALL) with your own username
[05:46] <mahangu> JustinHH, just ask
[05:46] <Nvidiot> FarrisG: set it up the way you want, then create a new location :)
[05:46] <mahangu> Kyral, thanks mate
[05:46] <JustinHH> thoreauputic, this message appears in firefox when i am trying to hear a radio on-line....
[05:46] <Answer> !tell silvertear about upgrade2breezy
[05:46] <JustSomeone> ok
[05:46] <JustinHH> is it imoprtent where i installed realplay? i instaled it in /home/username/programs/realplay? this messafe apears: Could not find an apropiate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use an embedded player
[05:46] <silvertear> sorry, i can't click on ubotu in the nickname list, my mouse is not working
[05:46] <pie> Shin_Gouki: getting error: no associated action
[05:46] <sunshine> does anyone know how to work mutella
[05:46] <nalioth> JustinHH: the default install should have installed it to your .mozilla directory
[05:46] <JustinHH> i have installed a *bin file from: http://www.real.com/linux/?rppr=rnwk&src=040104freeplayer wich was a plugin 4 firefox
[05:46] <thoreauputic> JustinHH: try reinstalling the .bin file with sudo ./realplay.... .bin
[05:46] <Answer> !upgrade2breezy
[05:47] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:47] <nalioth> sunshine: http://mutella.sourceforge.net/docs.php
[05:47] <Balduran> do you know a linux-command to show primary/logical drives separated?
[05:47] <Nermal> fdisk ?
[05:47] <JustSomeone> so visudo will make another sudo user?
[05:47] <JustinHH> nalioth, and where is the default mozilla directory?
[05:47] <[LethAL] > JustSomeone, no, it will open your sudoers file
[05:47] <Answer> silvertear: ctrl+tab should change focus if your mouse doesnt work
[05:47] <pie> Shin_Gouki: it seems that the hardware is not seen by gnome
[05:47] <sunshine> nalioth your still hear i have read about mutella and i figure out how to work it but it does tell me how to access the files that i have download i dont know where the file has fgone
[05:47] <JustSomeone> Yeah but by editing it
[05:48] <thoreauputic> JustinHH: theinstaller shoukd do all that for you
[05:48] <JustinHH> well it doesn`t
[05:48] <JustinHH> :(
[05:48] <[LethAL] > JustSomeone, When you add the info, you'll be able to sudo
[05:48] <thoreauputic> JustinHH: you must have made some error I think
[05:48] <[LethAL] > :-)
[05:48] <JustSomeone> Ok thanks
[05:48] <sunshine> and i would like to put my music file as part fo the shared files but that isnt workin either
[05:48] <[LethAL] > No problem
[05:48] <sunshine> please help
[05:48] <JustinHH> no
[05:48] <K^Holtz> Can open office save text documents in .doc format?
[05:48] <thoreauputic> JustinHH: did the installer offer to make system-wide links?
[05:49] <Answer> K^Holtz yes.  try SaveAs
[05:49] <JustSomeone> Also, do you have to be root to open some apps in ubuntu?
[05:49] <JustinHH> i just have installed it in /home/myuser/programs/realplayer
[05:49] <nalioth> JustinHH: yes, the default goes in here /usr/local/lib/mozilla/plugins
[05:49] <JustinHH> or smth
[05:49] <K^Holtz> Answer i dont have the software in front of me
[05:49] <nalioth> JustinHH: that is the wrong place
[05:49] <K^Holtz> but thank you for ur answer :)
[05:49] <JustinHH> no it just asked me where to install them or smth like that
[05:49] <Answer> K^Holtz: OpenOffice can save in MSWord compatible formats :)
[05:49] <Shin_Gouki> hi i did write: mount -t /dev/sda1/home/NAME/ORDNER to mount my usb stick ...but were i may acces the data now?
[05:50] <slibs> so?, any program names, how to convert xvid to dvd?
[05:50] <pie> How do I install the -correct driver- for my soundblaster 32? (Gnome)...Help?
[05:50] <JustinHH> i went now where i have installed it and there is a folder called mozilla with 2 files nphelix.so and nphelix.xpt
[05:51] <lars_g> Quick one, what was the name to the ncurses alternative to dselect?
[05:51] <nalioth> JustinHH: put those files in /usr/local/lib/mozilla/plugins
[05:51] <pie> Shin_Gouki: any room for a tribbute?
[05:51] <nalioth> lars_g: aptitude
[05:51] <lars_g> thanks nalioth
[05:51] <lars_g> bye
[05:51] <thoreauputic> JustinHH: you can probably copy those to your ~/.mozilla/plugins folder
[05:51] <sunshine> lnalioth: i have read the man pages and the how to over and over it doesnt tell me how to access the filesthat i've download or how to add my music file to the shared folders
[05:52] <X3ndou> ifI have a .deb sitting on my desktop, what do I type into terminal to install it
[05:52] <nalioth> sunshine: if nobody answers you in here, then nobody knows. perhaps you could try #mutella
[05:52] <Nvidiot> sudo dpkg -i filename
[05:52] <[LethAL] > X3ndou, sudo dpkg -i Desktop/foo.deb
[05:52] <Nvidiot> anyone know why I get an error on mounting local filesystems? (Or what logfile I'd have to look at for more info?)
[05:52] <Shin_Gouki> nhow do i mount usb stick frim shell?
[05:53] <TiMiDo> Nvidiot what error?
[05:53] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki man mount
[05:53] <[LethAL] > Shin_Gouki, In Breezy, System, Administration, Disks
[05:53] <[LethAL] > Oh.. shell
[05:53] <Nvidiot> TiMiDo: when booting it says 'Mounting local filesystems     [fail] '
[05:53] <[LethAL] > My bad
[05:53] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: when you plug it in, see what dmesg says about it
[05:53] <thomas__> Nvidiot: wrong entry in /etc/fstab?
[05:53] <pie> Does any-one knows a site to test hardware with a Ubuntu/gnome setup?
[05:53] <grayman> !ati
[05:53] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[05:53] <TiMiDo> Nvidiot look at it on /etc/fstab
[05:54] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, im on shell
[05:54] <JustinHH> in there /usr/local/lib is just this folder python2.4
[05:54] <Nvidiot> TiMiDo: my /etc/fstab is correct....
[05:54] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic,  i did write: mount -t /dev/sda1/home/NAME/ORDNER to mount my usb stick ...but were i may acces the data now?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: yes I know - please re-read what I said
[05:54] <Nvidiot> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2757 that's my /etc/fstab
[05:54] <TiMiDo> Nvidiot ok what line is it?
[05:54] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, dmesg..? what is that?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: wherever you monted it of course (assuming that worked)
[05:55] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: a command
[05:55] <Nvidiot> TiMiDo: it doesn't say, it just says 'Mounting local filesystems    [fail] '
[05:55] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, the mnt directory< is empty :/
[05:55] <pie> Does any-one knows a site to test hardware with a Ubuntu/gnome setup?
[05:55] <sunshine> there no one in #mutella
[05:55] <TiMiDo> Nvidiot put it on /etc/fstab and then mount it
[05:55] <TiMiDo> pie check on www.ubuntu.com
[05:55] <Nvidiot> TiMiDo: everything I want to mount *IS* on there. There are no other partitions
[05:55] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: mount -t /dev/sda1/home/NAME/ORDNER  << typo or missing space ?
[05:56] <JustinHH> its under usr/lib
[05:56] <pie> Timido: i did..
[05:56] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: you would have a space after the device path
[05:56] <TiMiDo> try google pie
[05:56] <pie> Timido: i did..
[05:56] <Nvidiot> TiMiDo: see my paste... It still gives that error on boot (even though everything boots fine and seems to work fine too)
[05:57] <Nvidiot> only thing I'm not sure about is swap
[05:57] <TiMiDo> Nvidiot check on /etc/init.d/
[05:57] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: also if you use the -t flag you have to specify the filesystem type
[05:57] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: man mount
[05:57] <Nvidiot> TiMiDo: what about that directory? Could you be a TINY bit more specific please?
[05:57] <GDorn> hrm. apparently I want something called x0rfbserver.  only, that's a defunct project...
[05:58] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, mount: can't find /dev/sda1/home/scheinert/usb_s in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:58] <pie> bey-bey....
[05:58] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: your comand is wrong
[05:58] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, i typed: sudo mount /dev/sda1/home/scheinert/usb_s
[05:58] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: space after /dev/sda1
[05:58] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, at which charater?
[05:59] <Shin_Gouki> k
[05:59] <thoreauputic> then look in /home/scheinert/usb_s or wherever it mounts
[05:59] <mahangu> ubotu tells me (much later) that he doesn't know the meaning of life
[05:59] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, mount: mount point /home/scheinert/usb_s does not exist
[05:59] <mahangu> wtf, what are bots for anyway
[05:59] <[LethAL] > mahangu, yes he does
[05:59] <[LethAL] > !meaning of life
[05:59] <ubotu> methinks meaning of life is 42
[05:59] <[LethAL] > See
[05:59] <mahangu> sheesh
[05:59] <mahangu> he didn't tell me
[06:00] <Nvidiot> TiMiDo ?
[06:00] <[LethAL] > Heh
[06:00] <mahangu> ubotu tell me the meaning of life
[06:00] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: well , you can't mount on a directory until you make it or unless it exists!
[06:00] <[LethAL] > That's because I told him :D
[06:00] <mahangu> :P
[06:00] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: it isn't magic you know
[06:00] <mahangu> [LethAL] , what's the syntax? to teach
[06:00] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[06:00] <[LethAL] > <name of bot>, X is blahdeblah
[06:01] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: that's why I told you to run dmesg when you plug in your usb drive
[06:01] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: so you can see where it is
[06:01] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, idid run i think there was alot of unpleasend error stuff.
[06:01] <mahangu> is ubotu custom coded? or based on supybot or somethingg?
[06:01] <thoreauputic> I have to go now and sleep -good night all
[06:01] <mahangu> *g
[06:02] <nalioth> mahangu: upgraded blootbot
[06:02] <mahangu> mmm
[06:02] <mahangu> neato
[06:02] <mahangu> gotta try him out in #taprobane
[06:02] <mahangu> ok, im off to bed as well
[06:02] <mahangu> gotta study tom
[06:02] <spiral> hi
[06:02] <mahangu> night nalioth , [LethAL] 
[06:02] <[LethAL] > Night
[06:03] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, i am now on the dmesg what do i need to look for?
[06:03] <Nvidiot> when booting it says 'Mounting local filesystems     [fail] ' How do I fix this?
[06:03] <JustSomeone> What are you trying to mount?
[06:05] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, it said: usb-storage: device found at 5, what device number is that now?
[06:05] <geek00L> oops, ubuntu has huge community
[06:05] <TiMiDo> yes it does geek00L
[06:05] <JustSomeone> I believe thoreauputic left Shin_Gouki
[06:06] <vegiVamp> arghl
[06:06] <Necron> Nero gives me a message "Entered Block Size does not correspond with image length" when burning Ubuntu 5.10. Should i Ignore or Correct?
 I have to go now and sleep -good night all
[06:06] <vegiVamp> NEVER EVER EVER apply dell firmware upgrades before checking on the net
[06:06] <geek00L> user friendliness always bring the hopes
[06:06] <vegiVamp> upgraded bios of my latitude to the latest version, so "obviously" my display stopped working
[06:07] <Nvidiot> vegiVamp: of course! Dell bios updates are like windows
[06:07] <JustSomeone> Shin_Gouki: I'll try to help you if I can :x
[06:07] <vegiVamp> just finished what was all of a sudden a mandatory dist-upgrade to breezy, all is fine again now.
[06:07] <nalioth> Necron: do your md5sums check on the iso image?
[06:07] <vegiVamp> and it now detected my bluetooth card as well :-)
[06:07] <Necron> Nero gives me a message "Entered block size does not correspond with image length" when burning Ubuntu 5.10. Should i Ignore or Correct it?
[06:08] <Shin_Gouki> JustSomeone, thx for telling me :)
[06:08] <Necron> how can i check this under windows?
[06:08] <Necron> (MD5)
[06:08] <vegiVamp> hmm...
[06:08] <Nvidiot> Necron: google for md5sum.exe :)
[06:08] <vegiVamp> does konqi have a problem with tinyurl ? :-)
[06:08] <apokryphos> nope
[06:08] <vegiVamp> it just keeps reloading the same thing :-)
[06:08] <nalioth> Necron: http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/freeware/md5sums/    <<<unix md5 compiled for windows
[06:09] <coobra> ok
[06:09] <grayman> bah
[06:09] <yaaar> word
[06:09] <grayman> i do everythig like they say in !ati and still have messa
[06:10] <grayman> *Mesa
[06:10] <Buddha|> Does anyone here use the WindowLab window manager?
[06:10] <Nvidiot> when booting it says 'Mounting local filesystems     [fail] ' How do I fix this?
[06:10] <crimsun> what's your /etc/fstab?
[06:10] <coobra> i hawe done the fstab thing... i want to add the hdd so i can use it... wtf do i do know :(
[06:10] <butcherbird> coobra: mount -a?
[06:10] <grayman> !ati
[06:10] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[06:11] <Nvidiot> crimsun: hang on
[06:11] <Nvidiot> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2757 that's my /etc/fstab
[06:11] <x_or> I'm trying to upgrade to breezy, but I keep getting this error on apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade:  "Errors were encountered while processing:  xfree86-common E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[06:11] <Necron> ummmm..... after optaining the MD5 test result, how do i know they are correct
[06:11] <x_or> Does X have to be shutdown to upgrade to breezy?
[06:12] <nalioth> x_or: something is majorly wrong if you see xfree86 anywhere
[06:12] <ompaul> nalioth, I wonder if it is warty
[06:12] <Amaranth> i have the worst luck with computers
[06:12] <Amaranth> i get my breezy install working again and my monitor dies
[06:12] <JustSomeone> Necron: Compare them with the original I believe :P
[06:12] <coobra> i hawe forgoten things :(
[06:12] <coobra> omg
[06:13] <Shin_Gouki> hi, i got a device number but i need to find the asociated path to it ? ideaS?
[06:13] <Shin_Gouki> hi, i got a device number but i need to find the asociated path to it ? ideaS? my device number is scsi1
[06:13] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: what is it, a cdrom? a hard drive?
[06:13] <Nvidiot> crimsun: he's got an usb drive
[06:13] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, its a USB stick
[06:13] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: is it not mounted in /media ?
[06:14] <Amaranth> should be in /media, right?
[06:14] <Necron> JustSomeone: Which original? as far as i know the website gives the check result of a correct file, I can't find anything, though
[06:14] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, no :/
[06:14] <x_or> nalioth:  Yeah, this was a hoary install, that I tried to upgrade to warty (maybe vice-versa), but I don't think I ever got it working correctly.  The system works fine, but the upgrade was not proper, I believe.  Can I force a removal of xfree86 and upgrade to x.org?
[06:14] <cream> Got a problem cant get rhythmbox work whit fluxbox ..only gets error when trying to play a file =/
[06:14] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun,  i used: dmesg to find thats it on scsi1
[06:15] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun,  now i need somehow to put in on my mount command
[06:15] <JustSomeone> He hasn't mounted it yet, so why would it be in /media?
[06:15] <Amaranth> JustSomeone: It should have mounted automagically.
[06:15] <nalioth> x_or: try your upgrade from a rescue terminal
[06:15] <JustSomeone> Oh
[06:15] <Necron> JustSomeone: Which original? as far as i know the website gives the check result of a correct file, I can't find anything, though
[06:16] <crimsun> cream: start esd manually, then play a file using rhythmbox
[06:16] <x_or> OK, will do.
[06:17] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun,  i used:  sudo mount /<<path i dont know>>/scsi1 /home/scheinert/usb_s
[06:17] <crimsun> Nvidiot: is that a default /etc/fstab ?
[06:17] <Nvidiot> crimsun: no, that's one I created manually (due to my slightly funky way of installing from a knoppix-std cd)
[06:17] <Nvidiot> crimsun: I don't see anything wrong with it though
[06:17] <crimsun> Nvidiot: sysfs is mounted automatically, you shouldn't have to explicitly specify it.
[06:18] <Necron> Could anybody tell me how i know if the MD5 check for my Ubuntu image is positive????
[06:18] <crimsun> Nvidiot: in fact, by that point it will have been mounted already.
[06:18] <Nvidiot> crimsun: so I should remove the /sys line ? :)
[06:18] <crimsun> Nvidiot: comment it out at leasnt
[06:18] <ilangut> hey ... can anyone help a newbee with a bluetooth prob?
[06:18] <crimsun> least^
[06:18] <Shin_Gouki> i need to create a mount command from this: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[06:19] <cream> crimsun : Esd?
[06:19] <crimsun> cream: open a terminal emulator, and type esd
[06:20] <Nvidiot> crimsun: mounting local filesystems... [fail] 
[06:20] <ilangut> i need help setting up a connection between my ubuntu box and my t630 ... can any one help out?
[06:21] <Nermal> Shin_Gouki: sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/<mountpoint> ?
[06:21] <Shin_Gouki> nermal nope
[06:21] <GDorn> there's really no way to move the local (display 0) X session into a remote session?
[06:21] <Nermal> Shin_Gouki: very helpful
[06:21] <X3ndou> can I install an RPM in ubuntu?
[06:21] <Nermal> X3ndou: you can convert an rpm to a deb using alien
[06:21] <grayman> !ati
[06:21] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[06:21] <Nermal> !alien
[06:22] <Shin_Gouki> Nermal here:
[06:22] <ubotu> alien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:22] <nalioth> X3ndou: what program are you seeking?
[06:22] <X3ndou> Openmotif
[06:22] <nalioth> X3ndou: and there are no ubuntu pkgs?
[06:22] <X3ndou> nalioth: can't find any
[06:23] <yaaar> does anybody know why my /boot/grub/menu.lst would have changed between reboots, without my having changed it? The kernel line was changed to have hdb1 instead of hda1....when hdb is (and always has been) a FAT32 windows drive?
[06:23] <Shin_Gouki> nermal , i need to create a mount command from this: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[06:23] <Shin_Gouki> Nermal , i need to create a mount command from this: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, its not on sda
[06:23] <Ofe> Could someone help a n00b out with connectionspeed-problems? I have 56k external modem with conexant chipset but Ubuntu seems to connect with 9600bps speed. :<
[06:23] <nalioth> X3ndou: i see plenty when i "apt-cache search motif"
[06:24] <imterro> hmm, can somone give me the name of a good java compiler, preferably wth an ide?
[06:24] <nalioth> imterro: eclipse
[06:24] <FarrisG> Nvidiot: No dice, no matter how I setup the different locations, it always reactivates both interfaces whenever I switch locations
[06:24] <jteale> imterro: javac?
[06:24] <X3ndou> nalioth: yes, but none of those are actually openmotif :P
[06:24] <imterro> eclipse is a couple hundred mb :P
[06:24] <imterro> i just need somethign quick atm
[06:25] <nalioth> X3ndou: then d/l the sources and compile it yourself
[06:25] <imterro> well 108mb or something
[06:25] <X3ndou> I tried that
[06:25] <X3ndou> it spit out a whole crapload of errors
[06:25] <jteale> imterro: JBuilder 2005 foundation
[06:25] <kemik> nalioth:  you still need javac with eclipse tho... afaik..?
[06:25] <jteale> imterro: free, around 90mb, reg req
[06:25] <Nvidiot> FarrisG: weird, it works for me
[06:25] <kemik> imterro:  something quick? gvim
[06:25] <Nvidiot> crimsun: any idea ?
[06:25] <nalioth> X3ndou: such as? join #kubuntu-offtopic and tell me
[06:25] <crimsun> Nvidiot: not off the top of my head
[06:25] <X3ndou> nalioth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2748
[06:26] <crimsun> Nvidiot: sorry, I'm preoccupied with ALSA atm
[06:26] <Nvidiot> crimsun: any idea which logfile would have more details? I don't mind poking around manuals & stuff
[06:27] <nxv_> are there unrar rar packages for breezy?
[06:27] <jteale> nxv_: unrar and rar
[06:28] <jteale> nxv_: one's free ones the rarsoft version
[06:28] <jteale> nxv_: don't remember which is which
[06:28] <JustSomeone> Does anyone have docs on how gnome works?
[06:28] <nxv_> jteale: but can only find unrar-free with my breezy sources.list and it doesnt work for the rar i have
[06:29] <jteale> nxv_: then try unrar-nonfree
[06:29] <jteale> nxv_: it's in multiverse
[06:30] <nxv_> jteale: ok, then i would need an example what lines to add to get multiverser for my breezy sourcelist
[06:31] <HiddenFly> what program can i use to uncompress rar archive?
[06:31] <yaaar> does anybody know why my /boot/grub/menu.lst would have changed between reboots, without my having changed it? The kernel line was changed to have hdb1 instead of hda1....when hdb is (and always has been) a FAT32 windows drive?
[06:31] <jteale> nxv_: just add multiverse
[06:31] <cream> Is there possible to have icons on the destop while using fluxbox and what is the name of the file viewer in fluxbox ?
[06:32] <jteale> nxv_: next to where it says univese
[06:32] <cream> or what can i find it in the list under system?
[06:32] <nxv_> jteale: are there although breezy-security multiverse sections? or ony breezy multiverse?
[06:33] <ilangut> i need help setting up a connection between my ubuntu box and my t630 ... can any one help out?
[06:33] <gearry> I am having some trouble configuring a modem, last time I did this was over 5 years ago
[06:33] <pitti> nxv_: in theory there is breezy-security for multiverse, but in practice there is not a single update in it
[06:33] <nxv_> pitti: okay then i will add them 4 future propose
[06:33] <gearry> my laptop has a winmodem supported by lt_modem, but how do I know which device the modem is attached to?
[06:34] <jteale> cream I think you're looking for fbdesk http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/fbdesk/
[06:37] <poningru> woah no one here?
[06:37] <poningru> anyone need help?
[06:37] <jteale> yup, sure got quiet
[06:37] <poningru> brb
[06:37] <kemik> that's a good thing
[06:37] <ilangut> i need help setting up a connection between my ubuntu box and my t630 ... can any one help out?
[06:39] <NoUse> ilangut what kind of connection?
[06:39] <Nvidiot> I try to help when I know how to do something, but I'm _far_ from a linux guru
[06:39] <jteale> bluetooth I'm guessing
[06:39] <vikash> hi
[06:39] <TiMiDo> hi vikash
[06:39] <TiMiDo> yeah been a linux guru takes lots of experiences
[06:40] <moparfan90> hello. i am buying a AMD athlon 64 2800 and a new motherboard. is ubuntu 64-bit alot better then the normal version?
[06:40] <x_o1> nalioth:  Sorry to bother you.  I am in rescue mode, but xfree86-common won't uninstall.  is there a force switch for apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:40] <vikash> suppose i installed an program in /usr/netbeans/bin/program
[06:40] <Nvidiot> x_o1: -f ?
[06:40] <nalioth> moparfan90: if you like flash, wmvs and all that eye candy, use 686 kernel on your amd64 box
[06:40] <vikash> i want it shortcut in applications<accessories
[06:40] <vikash> how can i do it
[06:40] <moparfan90> why the 64 bit version is not good?
[06:41] <TiMiDo> !tell vikash about menu
[06:41] <nalioth> x_o1: apt-get remove xfree86-common
[06:41] <vikash> tell me plz
[06:41] <nalioth> moparfan90: b/c support for flash, movies, and other things just isnt there yet
[06:41] <nalioth> vikash: look at your private msgs
[06:41] <zer0`> does anyone else get errors upgrading to firefox 1.0.7 with apt-get ?
[06:41] <moparfan90> oo
[06:41] <nxv_> how to convert cue/bin to iso?
[06:41] <sas171> I can't see the icons in the KDE apps, what's wrong?
[06:42] <moparfan90> on any distro?
[06:42] <vikash> how can i see private mesages
[06:42] <BiSK-8> hello
[06:42] <nalioth> vikash: they should show up in tabs
[06:42] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me how 2 upgrade 2 seubuntu?
[06:42] <nalioth> BiSK-8: what?
[06:42] <vikash> here no tab
[06:43] <nalioth> vikash: what client are you using for irc?
[06:43] <moparfan90> are any distro good for 64 bit and have the sound movie and everything working good?
[06:43] <BiSK-8> nalioth, to seubuntu,(selinux) security enhanced linux
[06:43] <vikash> xchat
[06:43] <vikash> 2.4.4
[06:43] <BiSK-8> made by the nsa
[06:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vikash about smeg
[06:43] <nalioth> BiSK-8: there is no upgrading to that
[06:43] <BiSK-8>  http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/
[06:43] <BiSK-8> and how can i get it?
[06:43] <nalioth> BiSK-8: download it
[06:43] <BiSK-8> thats the problem
[06:43] <vikash> nalioth i got it
[06:44] <Nvidiot> moparfan90: no. The problem is flash and those win32codecs are 32-bit and there is no sourcecode, so they can't be recompiled. Until there is a 64-bit version of those, you're stuck
[06:44] <vikash> ubotu tab is here
[06:44] <ubotu> ...but tab is already something else...
[06:44] <CookedGryphon> hi, could someone help me?
[06:44] <moparfan90> oo
[06:44] <vikash> tell me about menu
[06:44] <[LethAL] > CookedGryphon, no, we're here for nothing
[06:44] <nalioth> vikash: read what ubotu told you
[06:45] <moparfan90> goes anyone know if quake 4 is going to work on linux?
[06:45] <CookedGryphon> i have jsut set up my internet via a proxy, and i'vve got firefox working, but can't get the updates to work, or gaim, the gaim problem's cos the port is blocked, and i don't know about the updates problem
[06:45] <vikash> suppose i installed an ide i want its shortcut in system tools then
[06:45] <BiSK-8> nalioth, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SELinux
[06:45] <coobra> why do the computer freez when i try to mont the bastards hehehe
[06:45] <Nvidiot> CookedGryphon: there is probably an environment var you have to set, something like HTTP_PROXY
[06:46] <vikash> ok got it thanx
[06:46] <lars_g> Greetings, anyone here in VERY good terms with ubuntu/debian networking and willing to spend a while with me in /msg? (I can't handle the channel's load right now)
[06:46] <BooZee> i've downloaded the bin file of java run time environment.. how do i install it ?
[06:46] <nalioth> BiSK-8: if you have that wiki link, why dont you follow it?
[06:46] <[LethAL] > CookedGryphon, and http_proxy (They're not the same)
[06:46] <[LethAL] > :P
[06:46] <Davi1> Anybody who knows what kernel best suits an Intel EM64T CPU (with hyperthreading)?
[06:46] <nalioth> BooZee: you might have better luck with this
[06:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell BooZee about javadeb
[06:46] <craig321> hi all
[06:47] <lars_g> nalioth: Why not make-jpkg for him?
[06:47] <sas171> Hello, there none of KDE icons in the apps like amaroK. The places are holded but icons are not displayed. What's wrong?
[06:47] <grayman> how do i change which opengl xorg uses?
[06:47] <lars_g> Seveas: Would give me a hand?
[06:47] <BiSK-8> nalioth, but i cant find a download link
[06:47] <nalioth> lars_g: why not use an packaged for ubuntu deb?
[06:47] <nalioth> BiSK-8: it's at the bottom of the page
[06:47] <lars_g> nalioth: Same thing really.
[06:48] <lars_g> nalioth: I guess you're too busy to give me a hand?
[06:48] <damo21> crimsun: someone told me u could help with xfce
[06:48] <nalioth> lars_g: with what?
[06:48] <BiSK-8> nalioth, no it isnt:::: i cant find it :(
[06:48] <Davi1> I'm using the AMD64-generic version right now, but only one CPU shows in /proc/cpuinfo.
[06:48] <nalioth> BiSK-8: search the wiki page for "repositories"
[06:48] <lars_g> nalioth: I need feedback on a network little trouble but since I'm multitasking, i'd preffer it to be un privvy.
[06:49] <Nvidiot> Davi1: and you're running an X2 or dualcore/dualcpu opteron?
[06:49] <lars_g> nalioth: I need to config a system with multiple virtual interfaces, and lots and lots of static routes. and I am deciding how to handle the routes.
[06:49] <Seveas> Davi1, you need an -smp kernel for hyperthreading
[06:49] <damo21> im having a problem where xfce doesnt realise there is an old gnome desktop sitting on top of it
[06:49] <lars_g> but I think I'll do it on my own, a concrete idea is forming on my mind.
[06:49] <Davi1> No, just a single CPU: Intel 660 (with EM64T and hyperthreading).
[06:49] <nalioth> lars_g: sorry i've no clue about multithreaded networking
[06:49] <lars_g> nalioth: Don't worry.
[06:49] <elad`> http://pastebin.com/382818
[06:49] <nalioth> Davi1: you need an smp kernel
[06:50] <vikash> i add programming but still not showing in menu
[06:50] <benkong2> is there a way to choose an i686 kernel when doing an install? I am on a amd64 3200+ laptop but I want to use the i686 or k8 kernel so that I have flash etc.
[06:50] <BiSK-8> nalioth, To get the wisdom of pearls, you can place the following lines on your sources.list:
[06:50] <BiSK-8>   <----- what does that mean?
[06:50] <Nvidiot> Davi1: as Seveas said, smp kernel
[06:50] <lars_g> nalioth: Ok, thanks. I will implement my own scripture.
[06:50] <grayman> how do i change which opengl xorg uses, again?
[06:50] <nalioth> benkong2: after. choose after
[06:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell BiSK-8 about repos
[06:50] <Nvidiot> benkong2: you can install that after the installation is done
[06:50] <damo21> grayman: xorg.conf?
[06:50] <benkong2> ok thanks
[06:50] <elad`> I can't apt-get upgrade Firefox to 1.07 because of this problem.
[06:50] <Davi1> Yes, I've been looking for a SMP kernel, but couldn't find one. Only a K8-SMP and AMD64-Xeon. Neither one feel correct?
[06:50] <grayman> damo21, dont work
[06:51] <damo21> grayman: sudo nano /etc/xorg.conf
[06:51] <grayman> damo21, the driver is xglrx but it uses mesa
[06:51] <Nvidiot> Davi1: hmm, the Xeon might work
[06:51] <damo21> ok
[06:51] <grayman> *fglrx
[06:51] <Davi1> OK... perhaps I should try it out then. Thanks!
[06:51] <grayman> it refuses to use ati glx
[06:51] <damo21> grayman: i have ati card... it sux
[06:51] <Nvidiot> Davi1: trial & error time :)
[06:51] <Davi1> I suppose! :)
[06:52] <grayman> yeah
[06:52] <Nvidiot> Davi1: only 2 kernels to try, not too much work :)
[06:52] <grayman> the drivers for linux sucks
[06:52] <damo21> grayman: i dont think ati drivers are up to scratch yet
[06:52] <holycow> do i report breezy 64 bit installation issues in bugzilla, or is there a section separate just for that release?
[06:52] <grayman> yes
[06:52] <grayman> but its possible to run ati glx
[06:52] <grayman> because other do
[06:52] <Davi1> Nvidiot: Yes --- I'll do that. Thanks again.
[06:52] <grayman> and i cant figure out why mine cant
[06:52] <butcherbird> anyone here manage to apt-get transcode?
[06:52] <damo21> grayman: i am using the old "radeon" driver for ubuntu
[06:52] <nalioth> holycow: just do it. they don't discriminate
[06:52] <mcphail> Has anyone had any success using qemu in Hoary?
[06:53] <butcherbird> repos in forums not working
[06:53] <grayman> damo21, fglrx works for me as i said, but still uses mesa as opengl... thats the problem
[06:53] <grayman> damo21, same for radeon drivers
[06:53] <damo21> grayman: i dont run games on my computer anymore so i dont really care too much
[06:53] <andy__> hello, can i ask questions here? i'm just very new to ubuntu...
[06:53] <elad`> Why can't I upgrade Firefox to 1.07 using apt?
[06:54] <Nvidiot> andy__: ask away
[06:54] <Seveas> elad`, because you messed up your system with backports most likely
[06:54] <grayman> yeah, but i do work with opengl and i'd like to have some acceleration present heh
[06:54] <grayman> so if anyone knows
[06:55] <imterro> hey, is there anyway i can find my jdk?
[06:55] <gearry> how can I tell what device a winmodem is using?
[06:55] <imterro> or find out where it was installed
[06:55] <yaaar> does anybody know why my /boot/grub/menu.lst would have changed between reboots, without my having changed it? The kernel line was changed to have hdb1 instead of hda1....when hdb is (and always has been) a FAT32 windows drive?
[06:55] <gearry> the module loaded with no problems, but I don't know what device it is configured as
[06:56] <elad`> Seveas, this is a new machine, fresh installation.
[06:56] <grayman> probably /dev/modem or /dev/somenamehintingthatisamodem
[06:56] <enkrav> Hi I would  like to know what development tools are included in the standard CD. I have a computer *without* internet but would like to develop for gnome and SDL with ubuntu.
[06:56] <elad`> Seveas,  http://pastebin.com/382818
[06:56] <andy__> thx. just wondering how to play mp3 in Rhythmbox...i've installed gstreamer0.8-mad already...but those mp3 files are just dim...
[06:57] <imterro> anyone?
[06:57] <grayman> imterro, what you mean find it?
[06:58] <Nvidiot> andy__: did you look at the RestrictedFormats wiki ?
[06:58] <gearry> it is not /dev/modem
[06:58] <deFrysk> imterro, most likely in /usr/lib/
[06:58] <gearry> in fact I have no devices with modem in the name
[06:58] <gearry> I am used to using real hardware modems attached to serial ports
[06:59] <andy__> yes. that's why i did the installation of gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:59] <grayman> hmmm
[06:59] <Nvidiot> andy__: hmm, I installed that too, mp3 works for me, but I installed a LOT more than just gstreamer0.8, so I don't know
[07:00] <grayman> gearry, well when you install drivers for winmodem it usually creats such device
[07:00] <andy__> o...alrite. thx a lot.
[07:00] <grayman> and links it to /dev/modem in most cases
[07:00] <gearry> grayman: hrm, well I loaded the module
[07:00] <gearry> but I have no such device
[07:00] <gearry> I will dig around
[07:01] <andy__> maybe install xmms instead...
[07:01] <grayman> dunno about your stuff
[07:01] <damo21> what would be the command for reconfiguring the entire xfce package for ubuntu?
[07:01] <imterro> can anyone tell me where i can find where i installed my jdk?
[07:01] <grayman> when i had winmodem it worked this way
[07:01] <mohkohn> I have downloaded the kernel-patch-uml to get Usermode linux happening. What do I do next.
[07:02] <Xenguy> damo21: I'd like to know that too...
[07:02] <vikash> ubuntu updates are very bulky
[07:02] <mohkohn> damo21, dpkg-reconfigure <packagename>
[07:02] <vikash> it daily shows around 80 mb updates
[07:02] <andy__> and anyone successfully make the nvidia driver work? i just got totally black screen...
[07:02] <Xenguy> damo21: apparently someone is working on just such a project too, called Xbuntu?
[07:02] <Nvidiot> andy__: works for me
[07:02] <mohkohn> with sudo in front!
[07:02] <damo21> Xenguy: really?
[07:02] <Nvidiot> vikash: you don't *have* to get all updates :)
[07:03] <Xenguy> damo21: yep, saw it recently; don't expect it's ready yet tho, so there must be another way in the meantime
[07:03] <vikash> it daily shows new version of kernel
[07:03] <andy__> o...again...
[07:03] <vikash> i removes older one or stores both
[07:03] <damo21> Xenguy: i just dont know how to set up the X scripts properly i end up with the old gnome desktop sitting on top of the xfce one
[07:04] <Nvidiot> vikash: it's not as if you'll be hacked right away if you don't update
[07:04] <vikash> ok
[07:04] <Xenguy> damo21: it is very do-able, I just don't know the actual answer :-)
[07:04] <damo21> Xenguy: i had it working perfectly, but then i accidently let nautilus spawn a desktop
[07:05] <vikash> does it show updates of those packages which r installed or  also for not installed
[07:05] <damo21> Xenguy: now i cant remove it even after reboot
[07:06] <Fly_> do you know where can i find the vga option modes for Grub at boot ?
[07:06] <damo21> Xenguy: xfce is available in the universe packages
[07:06] <vikash> where is shortcut of ameg
[07:06] <vikash> i know that i canrun it from terminal
[07:06] <vikash> but where it is in menu
[07:07] <demantik_> anybody have Shredder Chess 9 ?
[07:07] <Dolm|SMC|Work> can anyone tell me how to change my video settings after installation? i get no display after booting and i think it's set to too high of a resolution
[07:07] <butcherbird> im getting public key is not available for a repo I added how do i force apt-get to update and install?
[07:07] <mohkohn> How do you patch a kernel? The Ubuntu way.
[07:08] <Nvidiot> Dolm|SMC|Work: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:08] <holycow> mohkohn, its the debian way
[07:08] <Dolm|SMC|Work> lol..i like your handle Nvidiot
[07:08] <nalioth> butcherbird: the key is not important, your soft will still install
[07:08] <demantik_> Dolm|SMC|Work - fglrxconfig being an easy way (ati only?)
[07:08] <vikash> hey where does the shortcut of smeg exist
[07:09] <Amaranth> vikash: in hoary it's Applications->System Tools->Smeg Menu Editor
[07:09] <Dolm|SMC|Work> i'm not sure what card it has, but im sure i selected too high of a resolution
[07:09] <Amaranth> vikash: if you've installed it
[07:09] <vikash> i have breezy
[07:09] <nalioth> vikash: then right click on the menu itself
[07:09] <mohkohn> Also good holycow :) I seem to find a lot on compiling a kernel but not a simple patch.
[07:10] <Amaranth> vikash: in breezy it's Applications->System Tools->Applications Menu Editor or right click on the 'Applications' text and choose 'Edit Menus'
[07:10] <vikash> ok
[07:10] <BooZee> what IRC chat client are you using?
[07:10] <vikash> got it
[07:10] <StyXman> anyone else has problems with archive.ubuntu.com ?
[07:10] <Darknight> hello
[07:10] <Darknight> I still have a problem with tvtime and my tvtuner under breezy
[07:10] <Darknight> anyone could help me out?
[07:11] <Fly_> how can i Translate the 1280x800 resolution in a VGA=xxx  ????
[07:11] <Darknight> or where I can ask about it?
[07:11] <Rubin> vlc seems to always just show a blue sceen for videos. am i missing a dri setting or something in xorg?
[07:12] <demantik_> codec problem?
[07:12] <StyXman> ah, there it is again
[07:12] <Rubin> demantik_: vlc doest use codecs does it?
[07:12] <demantik_> Rubin - yes...
[07:12] <demantik_> how can it not?
[07:12] <mcphail> Has anyone had any success using qemu in Hoary?
[07:12] <Rubin> well, i mean, it impliments its own
[07:12] <demantik_> it needs some to install...and installs a few itself..
[07:12] <demantik_> yeah
[07:12] <jiby> slt! qqun peut m aider sur un p2p?
[07:12] <nalioth> Rubin: modern wmv files wont play at all in linux
[07:13] <nalioth> !fr
[07:13] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:13] <demantik_> nalioth - excuse me?
[07:13] <demantik_> wont play modern wmv?
[07:13] <Rubin> its a replaytv mpg which vlc can play (at least in windows and other linux boxes)
[07:13] <holycow> Rubin, and they never will especially if they are drm'd as ms will never licence that out
[07:13] <nalioth> demantik_: modern wmv codecs are unplayable in linux. Thank you, Bill
[07:13] <demantik_> nalioth - how modern....wmv9 works for sure..
[07:13] <elad`> http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4qp.jpg
[07:13] <Rubin> its not drm
[07:13] <demantik_> screw vlc anyway, install mplayer :)
[07:13] <GDorn> oh, look, freenx died on me again.  *sigh*
[07:13] <demantik_> best player there is
[07:14] <x_o1> Anyone know the repository for freenx on breezy?
[07:14] <Rubin> its a non-standard mpg from my replaytv (think tivo) which vlc can play
[07:14] <Rubin> mplayer doesnt understand the format
[07:14] <mohkohn> mcphail, I used it to run SUSE 9.1 some time back. A bit slow though.
[07:14] <Rubin> vlc does this regardless of what files i play
[07:14] <Ng> ahh, good old tivo files
[07:14] <gearry> grayman: it was my goof, I was not loading lt_serial
[07:14] <demantik_> Rubin - doesnt understand which format
[07:14] <demantik_> Mplayer has played every single video ive thrown at it
[07:15] <Rubin> demantik_: trust me, please, i know what i'm talking about
[07:15] <demantik_> Rubin  - im sure you do :)
[07:15] <Darknight> buuu, nobody want to help with tv tuner?
[07:15] <drucer> I just installed Ubuntu. I'm pretty impressed! Some problems with sound, but other than that everything seems to work very nicely.
[07:15] <Rubin> replaytv changed mpg a little for its own use. the vlc team worked to support it. unless mplayer team knows what a replaytv is, it doesnt work :)
[07:15] <crimsun> Rubin: vlc absolutely uses codecs
[07:15] <demantik_> screw replaytv :P
[07:16] <Rubin> does anyone actually know about configuring dri in x?
[07:16] <nalioth> crimsun: vlc brings its own codecs to play
[07:16] <mcphail> mohkohn: i think my problems are ubuntu specific, judging by the responses on #qemu. thanks anyway
[07:16] <trans_err> Rubin: just ask the question
[07:16] <demantik_> nalioth - not enough though ;)
[07:16] <crimsun> nalioth: that's because they're compiled in, yes, and those that are compiled in are specified either from upstream or in the source.
[07:17] <Rubin> trans_err: the question is, how di i figure out why vlc shows only a blue screen
[07:17] <Rubin> trans_err: i suspect its trying to use dri and its not working..
[07:17] <nalioth> demantik_: next time you are enjoying your movies, consider the ppc and amd64 users who cant
[07:17] <crimsun> believe me, I've been busting vlc to compile on all three arches for a week so it'll work with our new ffmpeg
[07:17] <mohkohn> mcphail, What I meant was I was running Suse 9.1 in qemu on hoary.
[07:17] <Nvidiot> nalioth: for amd64, couldn't they create a 32-bit chroot for those movies?
[07:17] <Ng> yes
[07:18] <nalioth> Nvidiot: from all the trouble i've seen in here, chroot is trouble
[07:18] <deFrysk> vlc likes aac streams :)
[07:18] <Hoxzer> :e
[07:18] <Ng> or just install a 32bit mplayer and associated libraries ;)
[07:18] <deFrysk> makes me happy
[07:18] <Hoxzer> :D this like sucks
[07:18] <Rubin> noone has trouble with vlc and blue screens or has seen it before?
[07:18] <mcphail> mohkohn: ahh... Were you using the apt package or from the qemu site?
[07:18] <Nvidiot> thought so :) Still leaves the ppc crowd stuck tho
[07:18] <Hoxzer> I just installed windows and now the grub wont boot ;//
[07:18] <mohkohn> At the time the apt-package
[07:18] <damo21> Xenguy: WOOT FIXED IT
[07:18] <butcherbird> Hoxzer: heh
[07:19] <Nvidiot> Hoxzer: windows overwrites the bootloader. Boot from a linux floppy/cd and rewrite grub
[07:19] <nalioth> Hoxzer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:19] <nalioth> Nvidiot: little more to it than that
[07:19] <Hoxzer> nalioth: thx verry much
[07:19] <deFrysk> windows will always try to take control
[07:19] <mohkohn>     http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/52/QEMU_System_Emulation.pdf
[07:19] <Hoxzer> ;/ sucks
[07:19] <damo21> Hoxzer: yeah scares u doesnt it.... stupid windows
[07:19] <trans_err> Rubin: have you tried just using mplayer instead?
[07:19] <gigaclon> what package has libavformat.so
[07:19] <mcphail> mohkohn: i'm trying to get Windows in a (ahem) window. i don't think the ubuntu package allows this.
[07:20] <mcphail> mohkohn: I'll check out that link. Thanks
[07:20] <damo21> mcphail: i dont blame ubuntu for disabling windows
[07:20] <mohkohn> mcphail, how much RAM?
[07:20] <damo21> :P
[07:20] <grayman> ok
[07:20] <mcphail> mohkohn: 512MB
[07:21] <mohkohn> It won't be a case of disabling windows. Linux isn't discriminatory.
[07:21] <grayman> i got what was the problem with fglrx
[07:21] <damo21> i know mohkohn :P
[07:21] <Rubin> trans_err: mplayer isnt what i need working
[07:21] <grayman> you need to use 386 and 686 kernel
[07:21] <damo21> windows is so primitive, it cant even boot off a partition located past 1024 blocks
[07:21] <mcphail> mohkohn: the version in ubuntu is buggy and crashes when installing windows. i've been using the compiled version from the qemu site
[07:21] <grayman> *and not 686
[07:21] <Dolm|SMC|Work> how do i get to a command prompt? it's not giving me any options at bootup, it just starts loading and tries to start the gui
[07:22] <Answer> damo21: if you use grub for a bootloader, you can put the partition anywhere.
[07:22] <mohkohn> IMHO windows xp will struggle with that in qemu. Emulation is intensive. Thanks for the tip. I was going to try it my self with windows xp.
[07:22] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: applications > system tools > terminal
[07:22] <mcphail> mohkohn: Unfortunately, it consistently hangs the whole system after running for about 9 minutes. major drag...
[07:22] <damo21> Answer: yeah, thats cool... have u ever tried that sometimes it hangs though and only works every second boot
[07:22] <Dolm|SMC|Work> im not getting any gui, the screen goes blank when it tries to load
[07:22] <sorush20> how the hell do I get rid of the msn messenger on the xp pc..
[07:22] <butcherbird> Dolm|SMC|Work: alt-ctrl-f1 or f2 or.. etc
[07:23] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: hit ctrl-alt-f3 and log it
[07:23] <mohkohn> I want to watch in fascination as an unprotected windows system gets owned from the comfort of ubuntu. I think it takes less than 20 minutes now!
[07:23] <Answer> damo21: Yeah, I also made a custom ntldr that did the same thing.
[07:23] <Answer> damo21: I used a cool program called OSLoader2000 or something like that, it allows arbitrary selection of partitions
[07:23] <Dolm|SMC|Work> log it?
[07:23] <holycow> hey guys, what is the status of the unichrome project within xorg/ubuntu ... are unichrome drivers properly gpld/licenced or are devs staying away from that project?  is unichrome supported in ubuntu in any way?
[07:23] <Hendric2> bwahahahaha
[07:23] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: sorry typo . log in
[07:23] <Hendric2> im on mirc-breezy
[07:23] <Dolm|SMC|Work> ahh..ok tnx
[07:23] <mohkohn> mcphail, Does the qemu compiled from the site work better?
[07:23] <damo21> Answer: i think i know why.... Windows likes to see itself having the boot flag active but maybe grub sets it too late
[07:24] <damo21> Answer: so it only works the next boot
[07:24] <damo21> :D
[07:24] <mcphail> mohkohn: that _is_ with the compiled version! I didn't use the hoary version because of warning over the site that XP will not work.
[07:24] <imterro> hmmm how would i run a .jar file
[07:25] <mcphail> It is, however, supposed to be "fixed" in the latest versions
[07:25] <imterro> java -jar filename?
[07:25] <Hoxzer> hmmm...
[07:25] <Hoxzer> I have UBCD can I just install Grub from it?
[07:25] <crimsun> imterro: yes
[07:25] <damo21> Hoxzer: i think so
[07:25] <nalioth> Hoxzer: you may repair grub in any way you choose
[07:25] <mcphail> mohkohn: what's more, the current versions have a plugin which should run guest OSs at near normal speeds
[07:25] <mohkohn> Sorry. I must be a bit slow.
[07:26] <mohkohn> I'll have to go back to the site.
[07:26] <damo21> Hoxzer: u might want to fix grub before u reboot!
[07:26] <Dolm|SMC|Work> Nalioth: at the "boot:" prompt, what do i type to log in? (sorry for the nooblar questions here)
[07:26] <mcphail> mohkohn: I'd be keen toknow if anyone else is having the same problems as me
[07:26] <imterro> crimsun, it tells me, 'java: command cannot be found'
[07:27] <Hoxzer> god damn :D
[07:27] <crimsun> imterro: do you have a JRE or JDK installed?
[07:27] <Hoxzer> seems like I dont have a live CD ;//
[07:27] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: you shouldnt have a "boot" prompt if you hit ctrl-alt-f3
[07:27] <imterro> i have jdk installed
[07:27] <Hoxzer> what the fuck im supose to do ;D
[07:27] <nalioth> Hoxzer: you can watch your tongue, please
[07:27] <Ofe> hey umm.. this may be a bit stupid question but I'll ask it anyway. How do you install packages with Ubuntu? I downloaded scanmodem.gz and now I don't know how to use it. -.-
[07:27] <TiMiDo> Ofe, sudo apt-get install package
[07:27] <butcherbird> Hoxzer: if you dont have a livecd you can always create a floppy from grub website
[07:28] <Hoxzer> butcher: and with that?
[07:28] <TiMiDo> ofe gunzip file.gz and then gzip file.gz and then tar zxvf tar.gz
[07:28] <damo21> ohhh grub website! thats cool
[07:28] <butcherbird> ;p
[07:28] <imterro> crimsun, i have jdk 1.5.0_04d installed
[07:28] <crimsun> imterro: did you modify your $PATH?
[07:28] <nalioth> Hoxzer: you can have grub recreate your /mbr grub
[07:28] <Hoxzer> ok.,.
[07:29] <Hoxzer> will do it
[07:29] <imterro> crimsun, no
[07:29] <imterro> i just went sh jdk file name
[07:29] <damo21> Hoxzer: just type sudo grub /mbr
[07:29] <imterro> it installed
[07:29] <Dolm|SMC|Work> nalioth: when i het cntrl-alt-f3 i get a red screen for lilo that has the one image "Linux" and a prompt below it that says boot:
[07:29] <imterro> then i tried java -jar file name
[07:29] <imterro> and it wouldnt work
[07:29] <TiMiDo> how can i start kde with startx?
[07:29] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: you need to boot to the blank screen
[07:29] <TiMiDo> startx kde?
[07:29] <Ofe> TiMiDo: umm.. why it has to be that hard? o.O gunzip, gzip and tar?
[07:29] <Dolm|SMC|Work> i tried it at the blank screen and got nothing
[07:29] <crimsun> imterro: so is the jdk in your $HOME?
[07:29] <grayman> immetro, need to set your path then
[07:30] <damo21> Hoxzer: that should put grub back in the master boot record
[07:30] <GDorn> Ofe:  it's not that hard.  use synapse instead of downloading source or binaries
[07:30] <imterro> crimsun, how do i do that?
[07:30] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: then choose the rescue boot option
[07:30] <Dolm|SMC|Work> wait a minute, i just got the ogin screen ...but it's all messy colors lol
[07:30] <Dolm|SMC|Work> there is no rescue boot option
[07:30] <damo21> Hoxzer: i remember from back in the days when i had dual booting system
[07:30] <damo21> :D
[07:30] <imterro> well in /usr/dev
[07:30] <Ofe> GDorn: ok, I'll try to find scanmodem with synapse. thanks.
[07:30] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: then log in
[07:30] <crimsun> imterro: prepend the path to java in your $PATH
[07:31] <imterro> crimsun,  i dont understand, sorry
[07:31] <hutgyrr> if im running a traceroute and * * * comes across on one line. What exactly does this mean?
[07:31] <Dolm|SMC|Work> lol..i can barely make anything out, its distorted and all purple
[07:32] <damo21> I cant believe no one has improved the ati drivers enough to have composite translucency effects
[07:32] <grayman> immetro, add it in you .bash_profile
[07:32] <grayman> *your
[07:32] <BiSK-8> when i try to play a file on totem it says: Failed to create a GStreamer play object. Please check your GStreamer installation.
[07:32] <imterro> grayman, i dont know how to do that
[07:32] <damo21> :( i might have to buy a cheapo nvidia 3d card just to get translucency
[07:32] <BiSK-8> what can i do?
[07:32] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: hit ctrl-alt-f3 and you should have a readable text terminal
[07:33] <hutgyrr> i know its a firewall but is it ICMP traffic its blocking or what?
[07:33] <yaaar> has anybody around here had trouble with /boot/grub/menu.lst changing without your interaction?
[07:34] <damo21> How can i donate money to Ubuntu/Edubuntu ?
[07:34] <grayman> immetro, add that PATH=/path/to/java/bin:"${PATH}"
[07:34] <imterro> grayman, crimsun ?
[07:34] <sbn> Hey, i just run the installer of ubuntu, and i installed it on my second hd
[07:34] <sbn> and now i want that
[07:35] <sbn> only when i setup in the bios the second drive as first boot
[07:35] <imterro> grayman,  to what, and how?
[07:35] <sbn> that it boots ubuntu, so with out a bootloader, is that posible?
[07:35] <damo21> sbn: use grub
[07:35] <sbn> damo21 thats the problem i don't realy understand the installtion of that
[07:36] <abyss_> lo where i can get the SDLDrv ?
[07:36] <damo21> sbn can i pvt msg u
[07:36] <abyss_> !sdldrv
[07:36] <ubotu> abyss_: I give up, what is it?
[07:36] <sbn> d33p_ sure
[07:36] <Xenguy> damo21: How did you fix it then?
[07:36] <sbn> damo21 sure, msg me
[07:37] <damo21> Xenguy: i forgot to run xfdesktop
[07:37] <damo21> haha
[07:37] <Xenguy> hehe
[07:37] <Rounin> Hi.... I just had a seriousl problem installing the new preview release... When it go around to installing the kernel, it aborted, saying it couldn't isntall the initrd
[07:37] <Rounin> Now I'm using 5.04... Can I upgrade it to the new preview release somehow?
[07:37] <damo21> Xenguy: xfce is awesome!! i LOVE the customisable menu and window buttons
[07:38] <Rounin> I love XFCE as well
[07:38] <BiSK-8> rpunin:read the topic
[07:38] <BiSK-8> Rounin:read the topic
[07:38] <Dolm|SMC|Work> whats the default root password?
[07:38] <Rounin> Thanks BiSK-8... This installation failure though, is that a common bug, or did I just use a bad CD?
[07:39] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: there is none.
[07:39] <damo21> Rounin yeah u can
[07:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dolm|SMC|Work about root
[07:39] <damo21> probably in synaptic
[07:39] <Dolm|SMC|Work> with the regular login i have no write access to xorg.conf
[07:39] <bloodnik> How come the package transcode is not available?
[07:39] <Rounin> Hang on Dolm
[07:39] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: read your priv msg from ubotu
[07:40] <scanwinder> whenever i try to open a file with vlc thru nautilus, i get the following error... Could not add application to the application database
[07:40] <abyss_> where i can get the SDLDrv.so?
[07:40] <WhiteRabbit> !partitioning
[07:40] <ubotu> WhiteRabbit: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[07:41] <WhiteRabbit> ubotu, K Pasta! C Hoblo!
[07:41] <ubotu> I don't know, WhiteRabbit
[07:41] <sepmike> anyone know if a text based browser that handles java pages?
[07:41] <Dolm|SMC|Work> aha, ok, so i need to run gedit with sudo
[07:41] <nalioth> sepmike: java or javascript?
[07:41] <WhiteRabbit> searcher`, vim
[07:41] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: yes
[07:41] <Dolm|SMC|Work> thanks so much Nalioth
[07:41] <sepmike> javascript
[07:41] <Karbonade> my wireless card doesnt work on ubuntu :(
[07:42] <sbn> my onboard doesn't work neither
[07:42] <sbn> stupid SiS
[07:42] <Hoxzer> eh ;/
[07:42] <nalioth> sepmike: visit links.twibright.com and compile the source you find there enabling javascript
[07:42] <Hoxzer> can I make grub floppy in windows?
[07:43] <sepmike> thanks nalioth
[07:43] <Frem_> Karbonade: what wifi card do you have?
[07:43] <Karbonade> a buffalo
[07:44] <Marilyn> wahts the german channel
[07:44] <damo21> Hoxzer: ok i see ur problem u cant access your linux ur in windows?
[07:44] <sepmike>  nalioth for shell that is?
[07:44] <Karbonade> but on the buffalo site it says it's only supported on win :s
[07:44] <Marilyn> can me anybody send his apt sources.list
[07:44] <nalioth> sepmike: yes, but you can alse enable graphics in that source build
[07:44] <Dolm|SMC|Work> ok, I'm getting a Gtk-Warning **| cannot open display
[07:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Marilyn about sources
[07:45] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: what are you trying to do?
[07:45] <sepmike> ahh it's prepackaged with slackware that I'm running on the other machine
[07:45] <Frem_> Karbonade: You've tried ndiswrapper, right?
[07:45] <lasindi[lappy] > Hi, how can I configure the sensitivity of my trackpad on my laptop? With the mouse configuration, I can change the sensitivity of the mouse, but not the trackpad.
[07:45] <Dolm|SMC|Work> i need to change the display settings so i can load the desktop
[07:45] <Karbonade> ndiswrapper ? what's that ?
[07:45] <damo21> Marilyn: open synaptic package manager go to repositories
[07:45] <Karbonade> i'm not really familiar with linux yet :s
[07:46] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver
[07:46] <sbn> Can some one explain howto install grub to me?
[07:46] <damo21> sbn yes go to ur pvt
[07:46] <sepmike> nalioth you rock, it works a charm
[07:46] <Frem_> Karbonade: it's a kernel module that will allow you to use a Windows XP wifi driver and use it under Linux.
[07:46] <ggeller> sbn: man grub-install
[07:46] <sbn> I can't run the os now
[07:46] <Karbonade> aah, where do i find that ?
[07:46] <sbn> because i'v eno bootloader
[07:46] <sbn> or so
[07:46] <sbn> it wount load os
[07:47] <ilangut> can anyone help with a bluetooth prob?
[07:47] <damo21> sbn how many hdd?
[07:47] <sbn> 2
[07:47] <sbn> its installed on the second
[07:47] <nalioth> sepmike: it is lightning fast in graphics mode
[07:47] <damo21> windows on hda, linux hdb?
[07:47] <sbn> yes
[07:47] <MikeStyle> hey us anyone here that can help me
[07:47] <Frem_> Karbonade: it might be preinstalled with your system, not sure. open a term and type ndiswrapper
[07:47] <sepmike> graphics mode in shell?
[07:47] <sepmike> really?
[07:48] <Dolm|SMC|Work> nailoth: are you just smarter than hell or do you see the same issues over and over? :P
[07:48] <nalioth> sepmike: if you've compiled with graphics and javascript support
[07:48] <damo21> sbn easiest way: swap the hdd's boot into linux, install grub
[07:48] <nalioth> Dolm|SMC|Work: some of both
[07:48] <sepmike> awesome, I didn't compile, it was just prepackaged in slackware
[07:48] <concept10> Anyone attempting to get the Google Webcast?
[07:48] <sepmike> so I'm not sure if graphics was compiled or not
[07:48] <sbn> but, what should i type when installing grub?
[07:49] <nalioth> sepmike: then you may not have javascript capability, then, either
[07:49] <damo21> ubuntu?
[07:49] <sepmike> yeah
[07:49] <sbn> yes
[07:49] <sepmike> I do have javascript
[07:49] <deadcat> i am having problem with zd1211 wireless usb driver on my friend's machine.. it loads the driver but iwconfig doesnt show. on my debian box. it shows since it also loads the firmware. any idea?
[07:49] <sepmike> I just tried it
[07:49] <Ofe> GDorn: can't find "scanmodem" with synaptic. :)
[07:49] <MikeStyle> hey...uhm well yesterday i upgraded to breezy and when i rebooted my xorg didnt work, so i did all i could, reconfigured xorg and stuff...and today when i boot all i get is a blank screen after boot, and then it throws me back into command line...what should i do? my kdm isnt working :(
[07:49] <ilangut> can anyone help with a bluetooth prob? having problems connecting my ubuntu box with my t630
[07:50] <Frem_> Karbonade: do you have ndiswrapper installed?
[07:50] <damo21> well, u just install grub into the mbr of the linux hdd
[07:50] <cantona> why there is no ld.so.conf?
[07:50] <sbn> but that is
[07:50] <sbn> (hdb,2)
[07:50] <sbn> or what?
[07:50] <damo21> So: unplug them and swap them around
[07:50] <damo21> :D
[07:51] <MikeStyle> ...
[07:51] <Karbonade> Frem_: ndiswrapper: command not found
[07:52] <damo21> well, u can put grub anywhere but its easier in the mbr of the disk u are booted into
[07:52] <BiSK-8> iilangut: look at the pm
[07:52] <Frem_> Karbonade: Did you try running it with sudo? If that does not work either, just apt-get install ndiswrapper
[07:52] <MikeStyle> ...
[07:52] <ilangut> im there :)
[07:52] <BiSK-8> did u read?
[07:52] <BiSK-8> then answer
[07:53] <damo21> sbn: can u boot into linux?
[07:53] <Karbonade> i tried, but couldn't find it
[07:53] <sbn> no
[07:53] <sbn> it says something about os not ...
[07:53] <Karbonade> also apt-get install doesn't work
[07:53] <sorush20> is evolution available for xp
[07:53] <esac> who. i cd /mnt and then i do an "ls" and it just hangs there. any idea ?
[07:53] <dazzed> how do i install packages i have downloaded with synaptic using terminal?
[07:53] <deadcat> i am having problem with zd1211 wireless usb driver on my friend's machine.. it loads the driver but iwconfig doesnt show. on my debian box. it shows since it also loads the firmware. any idea?
[07:53] <Karbonade> (does it have to be connected to internet to use the apt-get ?)
[07:54] <dazzed> dpkg-deb....?
[07:54] <Frem_> Karbonade: yes!
[07:54] <deadcat> Karbonade: no. if you have a cd
[07:54] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone tell me how to install XML support for PHP5?
[07:54] <damo21> sbn: if u are in Windows now, get a freeware partition editor so u can set the boot flag of hdb to be active
[07:54] <MikeStyle> does anyone know why my xorg/kdm suddenly stopped working after i made the upgrade to breezy?
[07:54] <Karbonade> inserted the cd ...
[07:55] <dazzed> whats the commmand to install packages in terminal...
[07:55] <jscarmo> \join manaus
[07:55] <Hoxzer> :D
[07:55] <MikeStyle> dazzed, sudo apt-get install packagename
[07:55] <jscarmo> \join #manaus
[07:55] <Karbonade> now what ?
[07:55] <dazzed> MikeStyle: i already have the packages i just need to install
[07:55] <jscarmo> \join #manaus
[07:55] <jscarmo> hello
[07:55] <damo21> sbn: the easiest way to install a bootloader is to somehow boot into linux
[07:56] <BiSK-8> how can i search apt-get for something?
[07:56] <sbn> damo21 but the problem is when i install ubuntu
[07:56] <MikeStyle> what is the package extension... .deb?
[07:56] <sbn> that i don't know what to type or so
[07:56] <cantona> anyone can tell why twhy there is no /etc/ld.so.conf in ubuntu?
[07:56] <sbn> or choise
[07:56] <ilangut> can anyone help with a bluetooth prob? having problems connecting my ubuntu box with my t630
[07:56] <BiSK-8> hey man
[07:56] <Karbonade> i'm not able to connect it to internet now, but i can transfer files from this pc to my ubuntu with a usb-stick
[07:56] <MikeStyle> dazzed tell me the package name
[07:56] <BiSK-8> i pmd u
[07:56] <BiSK-8> whay dont u answer
[07:56] <BiSK-8> ?
[07:56] <Frem_> BiSK-8: apt-cache search package
[07:56] <damo21> sbn: did u install ubuntu successfully, or u want to do it again?
[07:56] <ilangut> i can't
[07:57] <sbn> damo21 well, it install successfully but if i set second harddisk to boot
[07:57] <BiSK-8> what???
[07:57] <sbn> he says something about os can't be loaded
[07:57] <ilangut> donno .. i just can't .... blocked by server
[07:57] <damo21> yeah, ok sbn u need to set the "Active" flag in your boot partition on hdb
[07:57] <jscarmo> \server irc.manaus.br
[07:57] <bipolar> Maybe someone here can help me. I've got a dell 600m laptop w/ port replicator. The strange thing is that if I plug speakers into the port on the replicator then the "master" volume control can no longer control the volume. It's like the output is fixed. I have to use the volume contol on the speakers. Does anyone have any idea how I can get this to work as expected?
[07:57] <kris> nal lo sekarang dmn?
[07:58] <jscarmo> \chanserv
[07:58] <sbn> damo21 and howto?
[07:58] <damo21> sbn.... use linux fdisk
[07:58] <MikeStyle> guys...really big problem here......after i upgraded to breezy my kdm/xorg isnt working so i have no display manager.....and im not really good with command line so i really need help getting my xorg/kdm back working...can ANYONE help?
[07:58] <deadcat> i am having problem with zd1211 wireless usb driver on my friend's machine.. it loads the driver but iwconfig doesnt show. on my debian box. it shows since it also loads the firmware. any idea?
[07:58] <Hoxzer> any ideas how do I make "=" with U.S.A keyboard settings?
[07:58] <kris> he konco2 sampeyan ngomong nopo? kulo mboten ngertos
[07:59] <deadcat> Hoxzer: press =
[07:59] <topyli> hehe
[07:59] <damo21> sbn: OK: boot off the Ubuntu cdrom
[07:59] <jscarmo> \server irc.manaus.br 667
[07:59] <duce_> hey there, I am searching for a good pacman clone. does anyone know one?
[07:59] <damo21> go to a terminal window
[08:00] <damo21> u run "fdisk /dev/hdb"
[08:00] <bipolar> MikeStyle, you need to find out why it's failing. log into a console and check the xorg log file in /var/log
[08:00] <kris> what???
[08:00] <topyli> Hoxzer: hard to say since you don't tell us what sort of keyboard you have. usually i just hit keys blindly until i find the correct one :)
[08:00] <MikeStyle> bipolar, wuts the command to do that
[08:00] <kris> daancok
[08:00] <concept10> what is the best way to watch real streams?  moziila-mplayer not working, vlc not working for me
[08:00] <deFrysk> duce_, njam rules
[08:00] <sbn> damo21 ok will try that
[08:00] <Whistler> who #kedes
[08:00] <sbn> bbl
[08:00] <Whistler> srry
[08:00] <Hoxzer> topyli: I cant find it :D
[08:00] <concept10> !ntfs
[08:01] <Hoxzer> I have scandinavian
[08:01] <duce_> deFrysk: thx, I'll try
[08:01] <damo21> Wait sbn
[08:01] <lemics_> does someone know how to shut adt746x down ?
[08:01] <damo21> u know how to use fdisk?
[08:01] <MikeStyle> .......
[08:01] <damo21> "m" for help inside fdisk ok sbn :)
[08:02] <duce_> deFrysk: hm, in which source can I find njam? I am on a live CD at the moment to show ubuntu to my sister
[08:02] <topyli> concept10: i use the real player for that :)
[08:02] <kris> what are u talking about guys? I don't understand at all
[08:02] <bipolar> MikeStyle, use 'less' so.... less path/to/log/file
[08:02] <MikeStyle> bipolar...huh?>
[08:02] <GDorn> how would I know if I have my nvidia drivers actually working?  lspci reports that the driver's in use, but the card is "unknown chipset"
[08:03] <Hoxzer> ...:D tell me
[08:03] <kris>  halo.......! are u still alive guys?
[08:03] <ProN00b> how do i make like transparent output of logs and stuff on the desktop, like you see it on screenshots ?
[08:03] <bipolar> MikeStyle, "less" is a program that will display text files so you can scroll around and read them.
[08:03] <MikeStyle> ok
[08:03] <Hoxzer> where I can find = button in scandinavian keyboard if I have U.S.A's keyboard settings?
[08:03] <deFrysk> duce_, its not on the livecd
[08:03] <deFrysk> sorry
[08:04] <MikeStyle> bipolar, i dont know the path to the log file
[08:04] <bipolar> MikeStyle, the log file for X is /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:04] <kris> hei hox! are u myfriend?
[08:04] <bipolar> MikeStyle, all your log files are in /var/log
[08:04] <duce_> deFrysk: thats clear, but I can't find it with apt-cache search njam also. (after apt-get update)
[08:04] <Hoxzer> I found it!
[08:04] <topyli> \o/
[08:04] <butcherbird> easy way to install transcode on hoary?
[08:04] <duce_> deFrysk: So, I found it in the universe tree
[08:04] <MikeStyle> ok bipolar, im in the log now what
[08:05] <kerute> hello
[08:05] <damo21> Hoxzer: unlikely anyone here would know that!
[08:05] <bipolar> MikeStyle, look for errors. they start with (EE)
[08:05] <kerute> how do i tell kubuntu live cd to use vesa and not ati drivers ?
[08:05] <MikeStyle> bipolar...i see a few WW
[08:06] <bipolar> MikeStyle, you should be able to follow the log as it starts X. Look for anything "weird"... vague I know.
[08:06] <Whistler> kerute sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:06] <bipolar> MikeStyle, (WW)'s are just warnings. usualy harmless
[08:06] <AilleantSian> is there anywhere that I can see the device support of breezy ?
[08:06] <MikeStyle> bipolar. ive never had to do this before so i have no idea what to look for
[08:06] <Whistler> kerute you need to edit this file
[08:06] <kerute> Whistler: i tried but after doing it i miss modelines
[08:07] <kerute> not with gedit but with nano :)
[08:07] <Whistler> kerute then i do not know
[08:07] <kerute> ok no pb
[08:07] <bipolar> MikeStyle, type in "/(EE)" and hit enter. that will search for (EE). hit "/" <enter> to find the next one.
[08:07] <MikeStyle> bipolar-"fatal sever error, could not open default font "fixed"
[08:07] <bipolar> MikeStyle, bingo
[08:08] <MikeStyle> bipolar, what does that mean
[08:08] <bipolar> MikeStyle, if you want to learn more, google search for that error. :) If you're lazy I'll do it for you. :P
[08:08] <MikeStyle> bipolar..im on command line. no internet client
[08:09] <MikeStyle> so if you could...it would be great :)
[08:09] <damo21> The only thing worth retaining from DOS is "alias cls="clear"
[08:10] <netdur> today the "computer" icon start to appear on desktop, CD and DVD devices disapear... when I insert media, nothing mount, but I could burn DVDs... what going on?
[08:10] <bipolar> MikeStyle, no prob. first, try running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" see if that clears it up.
[08:10] <deadcat> i am having problem with zd1211 wireless usb driver on my friend's machine.. it loads the driver but iwconfig doesnt show. on my debian box. it shows since it also loads the firmware. any idea?
[08:10] <j5y> Where do i download my Hoary kernel source (2.6.10) with out using apt-get?
[08:10] <Hoxzer> hmmmmmmmmmmmm :D
[08:11] <deadcat> j5y: packages.ubuntu.{com,org}
[08:11] <j5y> thnx
[08:11] <damo21> netdur: wait until tomorrow maybe it will go back
[08:11] <Hoxzer> maybe I just should go and install my cd burner to my mothers comp and burn live cd with it :D
[08:11] <damo21> :P
[08:11] <bipolar> I really wish that ubuntu would fall back on a vga vesa X if X failed to start normaly. that would make newbes a lot more comfortable.
[08:11] <MikeStyle> bipolar, i already ran that, and reconfigured xorg-common and xserver-xorg-core as well, no cigar.
[08:11] <lovebug356> Is there any way to get a list of the files to download when you do an update?
[08:11] <bipolar> MikeStyle, ok. let me see....
[08:11] <netdur> damo21, known issue then... okay
[08:12] <deadcat> lovebug356: ya. watch whats being downloaded
[08:12] <lovebug356> I need a list the url's from the file's
[08:12] <MikeStyle> bipolar, the log file told me i should run apt-get install x-window-system-core...when i type that though it gives me a message about using -f...
[08:13] <bipolar> MikeStyle, oh!
[08:13] <deadcat> lovebug356: /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:13] <bipolar> MikeStyle, "apt-get -f install"
[08:13] <MikeStyle> ok
[08:13] <bipolar> MikeStyle, something didn't finish installing
[08:13] <lovebug356> deadcat:I have a PC not connected to the internet
[08:13] <MikeStyle> bipolar-651 files not upgraded O_o
[08:13] <lovebug356> deadcat: I want to download the files needed on a other PC (windows/linux) and then install them on the linux machine
[08:14] <x_o1> Is there a good tutorial on *using* freenx on Ubuntu?  I've got it installed on both ends, but am unclear as to what client I use to connect, whether I need to install SSH keys before hand, etc.  Is there a quick HOWTO for this?
[08:14] <damo21> lovebug: thats strange, then the irc characters are levitating between us without the internet?
[08:14] <deadcat> lovebug356: run apt-get what ever, then copy the entire /var/cache/apt/archives to the other machine
[08:14] <bipolar> MikeStyle, thats ok. now run "apt-get dist-upgrade -u -y --force-yes" the -y and --force-yes just make it not ask any questions.
[08:14] <arnie_> hello
[08:15] <MikeStyle> bipolar...i got a message in trying to install -f....errors...broken pipe....
[08:15] <tommeren> How do I install software, first time i ame using ubuntu
[08:15] <HiddenFly> if i buy a usb printer that is supported in windows/mac by its manufacturer and is controlled via its drivers (printerhead cleaning, changing of cartridge etc), does it work fine in ubuntu and am i able to do all that too?
[08:15] <bipolar> MikeStyle, what package is it stuck on?
[08:15] <deadcat> tommeren: click the icon with the package
[08:15] <lovebug356> deadcat: but if I just wan't to download the package's on a windows machine?
[08:15] <MikeStyle> bipolar...kdelibs
[08:15] <tommeren> avast4server-2.0.0-1.i586.rpm
[08:15] <bipolar> MikeStyle, ahh... sounds like a broken package.
[08:15] <MikeStyle> bipolar, what do you reccomend i do?
[08:16] <tommeren> ? Bioplar
[08:16] <sktrdie_> help
[08:16] <bipolar> MikeStyle, remove it. "apt-get remove kdelibs"
[08:16] <sktrdie_> I can't get vlc installed
[08:16] <bipolar> MikeStyle, if you want kde, you can install it again later
[08:16] <jason_ukfsn> HiddenFly - the best way to check if a printer is supported under Linux is to take a look at http://www.linuxprinting.org/ or check with the manufacturer
[08:16] <bipolar> MikeStyle, when it's done removeing kdelibs and any packages that depend on it, run the dist upgrade line again.
[08:16] <MikeStyle> bipolar... kdecore has unmet dependancies
[08:17] <sktrdie_> when I try "apt-get install vlc" I get unmet dependecies, something about broken packages, and packages that wont be isntalled, whats the deal with this?
[08:17] <HiddenFly> jason_ukfsn: ok thanks
[08:17] <bipolar> MikeStyle, hold on....
[08:17] <MikeStyle> ok
[08:17] <joelburton> hi, all. have a apt-get question. i've read (at http://www.mneylon.com/blog/archives/2005/09/25/skype-on-breezy/) how to fix the existing skype package to work with breezy. however, i can't figure out how to download it so i can fix it. `apt-get install -d -f skype` tells me about the incompatibility; i don't see any way to "force download" the package.
[08:17] <jason_ukfsn> HiddenFly: note that there are utilities available for various makes of printers to manage them (ie cleaning and aligning heads etc) which are independant of the manufacturer.
[08:18] <jason_ukfsn> What printer is it
[08:18] <bipolar> MikeStyle, "apt-get remove libqt3-mt" that will remove every kde package.
[08:18] <x_o1> Can someone tell me the command they use to run freenx as a client?  After I apt-get install freenx on both client and server, do I need to follow any additional steps?
[08:18] <HiddenFly> jason_ukfsn: ok, i havent bought one yet, im considering in buying one
[08:18] <bipolar> MikeStyle, if it gives you an error again, "apt-get -f install"
[08:18] <jason_ukfsn> what one are you considering? Perhaps someone here uses it
[08:19] <atripathi> goodevening all
[08:19] <MikeStyle> couldnt find package libqt3-md bipolar
[08:19] <pmjdebruijn> hi all
[08:19] <bipolar> MikeStyle, it's libqt3-mt
[08:19] <pmjdebruijn> I'm fiddling with vncserver, but when I start a session in there, I always get a different GTK theme than I have in GNOME, how can I adjust that?
[08:19] <HiddenFly> jason_ukfsn: i just wanted to know how they work in average, i havent looked up any yet, im just going to do that next :)
[08:20] <sleepie> hey
[08:20] <sktrdie_> when I try "apt-get install vlc" I get unmet dependecies, something about broken packages, and packages that wont be isntalled, whats the deal with this?
[08:20] <MikeStyle> bipolar...unmet dependancies
[08:20] <Amaranth> sktrdie_: breezy?
[08:20] <Hoxzer> ok, can somebody tell me how should I get grub floppy?
[08:20] <lsuactiafner> atripathi : /EXEC -o date
[08:20] <MikeStyle> it tells me to do apt-get -f install again but when i do that it says broken package again....bipolar...
[08:20] <bipolar> MikeStyle, this box doesn't have public ssh access does it? I could log in and clean it up.
[08:21] <Ubuntu> st
[08:21] <MikeStyle> bipolar...dell inspiron 5100 laptop on command line mode...i dunno
[08:21] <bipolar> MikeStyle, are you behind a router?
[08:21] <sleepie> i would like to know if there's some program like msn messenger wich suport webcam?
[08:21] <MikeStyle> bipolar, no
[08:21] <bipolar> MikeStyle, dial up?
[08:21] <MikeStyle> bipolar, no high speed
[08:22] <atripathi> ubuntu rocks! but still I feel there could have been some more binaries provided by default
[08:22] <bipolar> MikeStyle, ok. at home?
[08:22] <MikeStyle> bipolar, yes
[08:22] <Ubuntu> !tcl
[08:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu: I give up, what is it?
[08:22] <Ubuntu> Someone help me?
[08:22] <bipolar> MikeStyle, what does "ifconfig eth0" tell you?
[08:22] <Ubuntu> How can I install TCL too my Ubuntu System ?
[08:22] <bipolar> MikeStyle, looking for your IP addres
[08:22] <jo_> slt
[08:22] <nalioth> Ubuntu: use synaptic
[08:23] <Ubuntu> ok
[08:23] <jo_> are you french
[08:23] <MikeStyle> bipolar, 68.8.61.138
[08:23] <sleepie> any portuguese people?
[08:24] <sleepie> i would like to know if there's some program like msn messenger which suport webcam?
[08:24] <nalioth> sleepie: en #ubuntu-pt
[08:24] <sleepie> thks
[08:24] <HiddenFly> anyone here familiar with HP PhotoSmart 7450 printer?
[08:24] <pmjdebruijn> sleepie, gaim-vv, but it's highly experimental
[08:24] <bipolar> MikeStyle, "sudo passwd root" and set the password to 12345. I can log in and fix it.
[08:24] <jo_> french because y don't good speak english
[08:24] <Hoxzer> can I make grub floppy in windows some how?
[08:24] <sleepie> hum
[08:24] <bipolar> MikeStyle, scratch that. I don't think ssh allows root logins
[08:25] <MikeStyle> bipolar...done
[08:25] <atripathi> does sudo work on other distros too?
[08:25] <sktrdie_> Amaranth: yes Breezy
[08:25] <sleepie> so still there limitation in the use of webcam in ubuntu?
[08:25] <nalioth> atripathi: yes, if you set it up
[08:25] <slept> Hoxzer, yes google for the image you can do it with dd
[08:25] <[LethAL] > atripathi, yes, but not normally installed iirc
[08:25] <jo_> are you frencc
[08:25] <jason_ukfsn> sleepie: I think gnomemeeting supports webcams
[08:25] <jo_> are you french
[08:25] <Hoxzer> slept: dd?
[08:25] <bipolar> MikeStyle, ok. I'm in
[08:25] <Amaranth> sktrdie_: hrm, paste the output from apt/synaptic somewhere and see if someone else can help, i need to get to class now, sorry
[08:26] <MikeStyle> bipolar ok
[08:26] <sktrdie_> ok
[08:26] <MikeStyle> bipolar...now what
[08:26] <mcphail> MikeStyle: tell me you haven't opened root access to the whole world?????
[08:26] <deadcat> cls
[08:26] <jo_> fuck off
[08:26] <sktrdie_> thnx
[08:26] <[LethAL] > Language
[08:26] <atripathi> I saw a very nice book o'r Fedora by Sam's. Any for Ubuntu?
[08:26] <MikeStyle> mcphail, right after he logged in i changed it back, im not dumb
[08:26] <lovebug356>  Where is the make.conf file in Ubuntu?
[08:26] <sleepie> yes but i prefer using it in some program where i could add my hotmail account like msn messenger and conect the webcam when i like. jason_ukfsn
[08:26] <deadcat> lovebug356: this aint gentoo
[08:26] <mcphail> MikeStyle: is he the only one? ;p
[08:27] <Amaranth> nalioth: Best to give a warning first.
[08:27] <bipolar> MikeStyle, wow... this is a mess.
[08:27] <x_o1> Anyone here using nxclient?  What do you do to run it, no man page and cannot find examples anywhere.
[08:27] <grndslm> soo...i just changed the hoary repositories to breezy repos...after i update, what's the difference between doing a regular upgrade and a "dist-upgrade"???
[08:27] <MikeStyle> mcphail, yes
[08:27] <bipolar> MikeStyle, give me a min or two.
[08:27] <joelburton> is there a way to "force download" of a package using apt tools?
[08:27] <MikeStyle> bipolar...well i am a bit of a sloppy guy
[08:27] <slept> Hoxzer, try dd --help, there is a windows version for that aswell
[08:27] <MikeStyle> mcphail, i believe so
[08:27] <atripathi> joel yes
[08:27] <atripathi> see synaptic
[08:27] <lovebug356> deadcat: isn't that a linux option and available in all distro's? How can I set allround optimalizations for compiling?
[08:28] <deadcat> lovebug356: edit the makefiles or something
[08:28] <atripathi> it asks if you want to just download the package(s)
[08:28] <MikeStyle> even if someone does come into my system, the state it is in right now all they could do is rf me, in which case i would format and reinstall
[08:28] <slept> joelburton, apt-get --help
[08:28] <grndslm> soo...i just changed the hoary repositories to breezy repos...after i update, what's the difference between doing a regular upgrade and a "dist-upgrade"???
[08:28] <jason_ukfsn> sleepie: I am not a MSN user however a quick google turns up aMSN - http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
[08:28] <sleepie> yes i've used
[08:29] <sleepie> adn used mercury which is better than amsn
[08:29] <joelburton> slept: apt-get --help doesn't show an option to force download; "apt-get -d -f install skype" still fails if the dependencies aren't met
[08:29] <robbkidd> ubuntuforums.org down?
[08:29] <deFrysk> dist-upgrade also downloads new packages if the deps require this
[08:29] <grndslm> robbkidd, no
[08:29] <deFrysk> upgrade does not
[08:29] <Hoxzer> wonderful :D
[08:29] <j5y> how do i install .dsc files?
[08:29] <Hoxzer> fucking great
[08:29] <sleepie> but still not having suport to webcam jason_ukfsn
[08:29] <Hoxzer> can't find image
[08:29] <grndslm> deFrysk, thanks
[08:29] <nalioth> Hoxzer: have we not mentioned language in here? it doesnt help at all
[08:29] <deFrysk> dist-upgrade also deletes packages if the deps require this
[08:29] <damo21> haha
[08:29] <lemics_> http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/the_DarkStranger/Linux_Penguins_Madagascar.jpg
[08:29] <MikeStyle> bipolar...what is wrong with everything
[08:29] <joelburton> atripathi: don't see any option in synaptic to download something where deps are broken; am i missing something?
[08:29] <deFrysk> :>
[08:29] <bipolar> MikeStyle, yeah. it looks like the kde packages are fubar. I think I have it cleaned up. do you want to keep kde or use gnome?
[08:30] <slept> joelburton, the dependencies are there for a reason , why should it work when you force things
[08:30] <jason_ukfsn> sleepie: I think you need to compile amsn to add video support and make sure you have kernel support (probably just modprobe the relevant module)
[08:30] <MikeStyle> kde
[08:30] <joelburton> slept: i have a good reason; i need to change the package.
[08:30] <MikeStyle> bipolar, kde please
[08:30] <atripathi> When u apply u get the option. Try looking there
[08:30] <MikeStyle> i installed the 3.5 beta key already
[08:30] <topyli> j5y: you don't, they are just text files if i understand you correctly
[08:30] <atripathi> apply the changes i mean
[08:30] <bipolar> MikeStyle, ok. I think I got it. It's upgrading now.
[08:30] <MikeStyle> ok
[08:30] <sleepie> jason_ukfsn thks for your help, but compiling is not an option for me, i'm newbie in linux :)
[08:30] <lewiss> slept: im having a similar problem, the dependancy issue is due to ubutu post fixing their packages. this causes the packagemanager to barf
[08:31] <MikeStyle> sleepie
[08:31] <grayman> !ati
[08:31] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[08:31] <MikeStyle> sleepie, compiling is very easy
[08:31] <damo21> Thankyou everyone who helped me earlier.... u guys r great :-) also glad i could help a few ppl
[08:31] <atripathi> joel u can also fix the packages in synaptic. See Edit menu option
[08:31] <joelburton> atripathi: i don't get any options. choosing to upgrade my existing skype fails with a dependency-unmet error. don't get any option to just-download it.
[08:31] <slept> Hoxzer, maybe you don't need a grub floppy you can boot from a live cd and chroot in your system and install grub or make a grub floppy
[08:31] <sleepie> lol for you MikeStyle
[08:31] <MikeStyle> sleepie, cd to dir>./configure>make>make install
[08:31] <MikeStyle> thats it
[08:32] <sleepie> hum
[08:32] <atripathi> joel are u using hoary ?
[08:32] <MikeStyle> its just 4 basic commands
[08:32] <damo21> Hoxzer... still having trouble with grub?
[08:32] <j5y> topyli: i have tried to download the linux-source-2.6.10... and i have a diff.gz file a dsc file and a orig.tar.gz, but how do i install the file?
[08:32] <jason_ukfsn> sleepie: compiling a package isn't so hard. If there is already a debian/ubuntu package available just apt-get source <packagename> and alter the configuration in the debian/rules file
[08:32] <joelburton> atripathi: i don't need to fix my packages; i need to download one package to make a change to it (as described at http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?p=169829&highlight=#169829; to edit the skype package dependencies)
[08:32] <joelburton> atripathi: no, breezy
[08:32] <sleepie> ok
[08:32] <jason_ukfsn> sleepie: then run dpkgbuild
[08:32] <Hoxzer> damo21: yep
[08:32] <topyli> j5y: don't download stuff, just apt-get it
[08:33] <smi|e> how do i mask my hostname on freenode ?
[08:33] <topyli> j5y: and you will get it installed
[08:33] <MikeStyle> bipolar, just tell me when its all done so i can reboot and see if it works
[08:33] <jason_ukfsn> sleepie: if there are build dependancies you will be told
[08:33] <j5y> yes i know, but dont have internett on the ubuntu PC, so have to bring over the package.. :/
[08:33] <bipolar> MikeStyle, you wont need to reboot.
[08:33] <atripathi> well i dont know if there is any change in synaptic in breezy. I am using hoary and it provides option to download the package instead of installing
[08:33] <sleepie> i'm running windows at the moment, i'm not still too confortable with linux
[08:33] <nalioth> smi|e: ask in #freenode
[08:33] <bipolar> MikeStyle, I'll see whats going on with X too. I'll let you know.
[08:33] <MikeStyle> bipolar, then what do i do, terminal > startx ?
[08:33] <smi|e> nalioth: i dont have a +v there
[08:33] <topyli> j5y: you should still have a .deb file you can install with dpkg
[08:34] <lewiss> has anyone got the skype deb to install without making apt-get moan when you install things after that?
[08:34] <j5y> hm okay
[08:34] <nalioth> smi|e: if you wait a minute or two, you will
[08:34] <mawa> hu
[08:34] <mawa> hi
[08:34] <smi|e> nalioth: how?
[08:34] <bipolar> MikeStyle, don't worry abou it. :) I'll restart the DM and you'll be up and running. I want to make sure that X works.
[08:34] <j5y> topyli: i will try a little bit more..
[08:34] <MikeStyle> ok
[08:34] <mawa> has anyone of you got Bluetooth to work under Breezy?
[08:34] <atripathi> @joel:hey why dont ya go to preferences and make the pakcages persist in cache ?
[08:34] <bipolar> MikeStyle, it just finished downloading
[08:34] <topyli> j5y: just get the deb package
[08:34] <Ofe> someone tell me how to apt-get scanmodem (www.linuxant.com)?
[08:34] <sleepie> but i have a doubt, i have the actual ubuntu 5.04, when breezy comes out, will i need to download the whole cd, or just update?
[08:35] <MikeStyle> bipolar. thanks for helping..but if you try anything like rf-ing me ill just turn off my modem.but thanks for helping
[08:35] <deFrysk> sleepie, update
[08:35] <sleepie> ty
[08:35] <two-sheds> mawa: bluetooth works fine.
[08:35] <Hoxzer> ...
[08:35] <damo21> Hoxzer: come to pvt chat i can send u an image
[08:35] <Hoxzer> :D
[08:35] <damo21> :D
[08:35] <bipolar> MikeStyle, lol... why the heck would I do that. :P
[08:35] <deFrysk> sleepie, check topic on breezyupgradenotes
[08:36] <MikeStyle> bipolar, ive had it happen b4
[08:36] <slept> Hoxzer, what is your problem with grub ?
[08:36] <bipolar> MikeStyle, that sucks.
[08:36] <MikeStyle> bipolar, yea
[08:36] <j5y> how do i install the packages from packages.ubuntu.com after downloading..
[08:36] <j5y> ?
[08:36] <Hoxzer> slept: I just reinstalled windows and now my PC says "I don't have operation system" and it wont boot grub
[08:36] <ProN00b> haha
[08:36] <MikeStyle> bipolar, if this works ill find out where you live and send flowers
[08:36] <bipolar> MikeStyle, rm -rf is for pussys. I'd fdisk and scramble the partitions. you wouldn't know untill a reboot. heh.... I'm not gonna do that though. :)
[08:36] <nalioth> j5y: you dont. use synaptic
[08:36] <Answer> j5y: If you are using Synaptic, click the checkbox that says install after download,  If you are using apt-get, use apt-get install <package>
[08:36] <damo21> Hoxzer, so how r u here?
[08:36] <slept> Hoxzer, you got a live cd ?
[08:36] <Hoxzer> yes
[08:37] <Hoxzer> No, I dont have live cd that is the problem :D
[08:37] <MikeStyle> bipolar, O_o, gulp...lol i only have 1 partition anyway
[08:37] <damo21> what system are u running now
[08:37] <gigaclon> you need one
[08:37] <damo21> hoxzer?
[08:37] <bipolar> MikeStyle, gah.... more package problems. not as bad this time though.
[08:37] <MikeStyle> bipolar, alright
[08:37] <Hoxzer> damo21: ubuntu in my laptop but I dont have floppy in this
[08:37] <j5y> i dont have internet on my ubuntu, and have to download package then copy to ubuntu-machine, then install. how do i do that?
[08:37] <MikeStyle> ill brb
[08:37] <damo21> ok
[08:37] <nalioth> j5y: use apt-zip
[08:37] <slept> Hoxzer, can you download one ?
[08:38] <atripathi> any alternative to gdesklet ?
[08:38] <damo21> HAHA image is useless to him
[08:38] <Hoxzer> slept: dowload what?
[08:38] <joelburton> thanks, atripathi, but i don't have the file on my system--i want to *get it*.
[08:38] <gigaclon> the live CD
[08:38] <joelburton> there's nothing in my /var/cache/apt for skype
[08:38] <damo21> he cant write to floppy dude
[08:38] <damo21> :P
[08:38] <nalioth> atripathi: superkaramba or adesklets
[08:38] <sleepie> i think ubuntu can go futher, the only thing is needing is pub, like firefox made some months ago. don't you think? :)
[08:38] <Hoxzer> damo21: I can write floppy with my mother's computer
[08:38] <j5y> nalioth: dont have that command
[08:38] <MikeStyle> ok im back
[08:38] <Hoxzer> but it has windows
[08:38] <damo21> Hoxzer: can u download the entire livecd
[08:38] <nalioth> j5y: install it
[08:38] <Concord_Dawn> I can't find the sun-j2re1.5 package.
[08:39] <Concord_Dawn> !info sun-j2re1.5
[08:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Concord_Dawn about javadeb
[08:39] <Hoxzer> damo21: yes,... but I can't burn it
[08:39] <damo21> HAHA
[08:39] <slept> Hoxzer, a live cd. If you are in a hurry you can try http://www.sysresccd.org/download.en.php thats only 100Mb
[08:39] <damo21> he cant burn it or write to floppy
[08:39] <j5y> nalioth: how?
[08:39] <Hoxzer> I can't burn CD's at the moment :D
[08:39] <nalioth> j5y: use synaptic
[08:39] <guidan> Hoxzer: your trying to run grub?
[08:39] <damo21> Hoxzer can u transfer floppy image to your mothers computer?
[08:39] <MikeStyle> bipolar, how much longer do you think? my dad wants me to go to his office to have lunch
[08:40] <Hoxzer> damo21: yes
[08:40] <damo21> and write floppy image there?
[08:40] <Hoxzer> yes
[08:40] <bipolar> MikeStyle, I dunno. it's installing packages now.
[08:40] <damo21> :D
[08:40] <MikeStyle> bipolar, ok
[08:40] <damo21> do it
[08:40] <Hoxzer> but I dont see any floppy images that can be created in windowsw
[08:40] <joelburton> so, i need to download (not install) the skype .deb package. i have unmet dependencies, and can't find a program that will let me download that .deb while my dependencies are unment.
[08:40] <atripathi> joel ...see in preference there is an option to save the file in cache once it is downloaded. You can edit the file once it is downlaoded to the cache
[08:40] <joelburton> does anyone know how to force a package download?
[08:40] <damo21> ohhh wait i'll find u one
[08:40] <Hoxzer> ok...
[08:40] <gigaclon> Hoxzer, for future reference install windows first then Linux
[08:40] <Hoxzer> I searched it for like 30mins
[08:40] <Answer> joelburton: Use synaptic?
[08:40] <damo21> a grub boot disk
[08:40] <damo21> easy
[08:40] <USER012864> ciao
[08:41] <damo21> brb
[08:41] <Hoxzer> gigaclon: I have to reinstall windows again anyways
[08:41] <joelburton> i already am saving download files, atripathi. it's never downloading it, though--that's the problem.
[08:41] <mawa> two-sheds: hm. doesn't work for me, not at all
[08:41] <joelburton> answer: if synaptic can do this, i'll need more help. i don't see any option in synaptic to get me around the unmet-dependency problem.
[08:41] <damo21> reinstall windows? why not use the extra space for bigger ubuntu home directory :P
[08:42] <damo21> surely a better use of hdd
[08:42] <Answer> joelburton: Can't you just install the package you want with Synaptic?  It automatically gets the dependencies
[08:42] <j5y> nalioth: thats the problem, i dont have internet on my linuxPC, i have to download packages and install manually, and that is what im aksing help for..
[08:42] <joelburton> the dependency on which it relies isn't available in breezy, answer. i know how to fix the skype package, once i get it. it's the getting it i can't figure out.
[08:42] <Hoxzer> damo21: you can play nonthing with linux :((
[08:43] <Answer> joelburton: which came first, the chicken or the egg?
[08:43] <nalioth> j5y: i'm not sure what to tell you
[08:43] <MikeStyle> Hoxzer, not true, use wine or cedega to run windows games
[08:43] <slept> Hoxzer, try kobodeluxe
[08:43] <Hoxzer> MikeStyle: it will surely lower my fps
[08:43] <slept> one of the best games ever
[08:43] <Answer> MikeStyle: Have you tried world of warcraft in cedega or wine?  is it playable
[08:43] <topyli> Hoxzer: nethack and xgalaga work just fine here :)
[08:43] <damo21> Hoxzer: use wine:  i play warcraft 3
[08:43] <j5y> nalioth: okay.. i tried to download package from packages.ubuntu.com, but dunno how to install them
[08:44] <Hoxzer> :D GOD damn lets get back to business
[08:44] <slept> j5y, dpkg -i
[08:44] <Hoxzer> I dunno why curse :(
[08:44] <MikeStyle> hoxzer, when i played it didnt seem to do that for me :) cedega is an awesome program, although you do have to pay for it....
[08:44] <MikeStyle> Answer, i dont play warcraft
[08:44] <MikeStyle> i dont play any games anymore
[08:44] <Hoxzer> :D I dont even feel any anger
[08:44] <Ofe> Hoxzer: Eips kiroilla. Please don't curse.
[08:44] <damo21> Hoxzer: it even emulates nocd cracks!!!
[08:44] <MikeStyle> im all tech
[08:44] <ejpir> anyone know the package in ubuntu 5.10 for microsoft core fonts?
[08:44] <j5y> slept: but the filename isnt .deb, should it be that?
[08:44] <Hoxzer> Ofe: :( emm tied miksi kiroilen  tulee vaan itsestn
[08:44] <topyli> ejpir: msttcorefonts
[08:44] <bipolar> Answer, WoW is a "supported" game on cedega. it *will* work and work well.
[08:45] <deFrysk> ejpir, its in multiverse I believe
[08:45] <slept> j5y, yes it should be , what kin of file is it ?
[08:45] <deFrysk> !info msttcorefonts
[08:45] <ejpir> topyli: that doesn't work anymore
[08:45] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[08:45] <Hoxzer> damo21: :D yeah, yeah I think the windows games will run better in windows than in linux
[08:45] <Answer> bipolar: Is it even a noticeable difference?
[08:45] <slept> j5y, you can find out with : file ....
[08:45] <topyli> ejpir: the package, the fonts, or the repository?
[08:45] <bipolar> Answer, My exp has shown that games run faster in cedega then windows if it's supported.
[08:45] <ejpir> Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package
[08:45] <ReggyLove> good evening
[08:45] <ejpir> I might have the wrong sources?
[08:45] <ghita> can someone tell me how to remove simbolick link from icons in gnome?
[08:46] <bipolar> Answer, I don't have Wow though.
[08:46] <[LethAL] > MikeStyle, no, he's just doing "rm -Rf /" ;)
[08:46] <deFrysk> ejpir, add multiverse to your repo
[08:46] <ejpir> okay, I'll look into that, thank you both
[08:46] <Hoxzer> damo21: have you found a floppy image yet?
[08:46] <damo21> Hoxzer: not entirely true.... its not an emulator
[08:46] <Answer> bipolar: Is cedega easy to setup?
[08:46] <bipolar> Answer, sure. it has it's own installer.
[08:46] <[A] ndy80> I've a strange problem, but I don't know if it's ubuntu related or not. I've 8 new pc with a LCD monitor Neovo F-417 and ATI Radeon 7000. The screen is always flickering expecially when we read/write from harddisk. We changed 2-3 monitor (same model) on the same machine and not all of them have the same flickering intensity. How can I fix this problem? The resolution set by ubuntu is 1280x1024@75, the optimal for that model.
[08:46] <j5y> slept: PGP armored data signed messange file, thats the biggest one, the other is tar.gz and diff.gz
[08:47] <MikeStyle> [LethAL] , i doubt it, he sed if he did anything it would be fdisk and then scramble partitions...but he sed he wouldnt do that so im hoping hes not :) anyway hes been trying to help me for almost an hour now, i think he really does wanna help
[08:47] <[LethAL] > Cool :0
[08:47] <[LethAL] > Watch your dmesg log :P
[08:47] <mohkohn> Can anybody tell me how to patch my kernel with kernel-patch-uml?
[08:47] <slept> Hoxzer, http://gazonk.org/~eloj/articles/emergencybooting.html
[08:47] <deFrysk> [A] ndy80, check the horizontal and vertical freq's
[08:47] <jerryg> is breezy badger pretty stable and driver updated for a beta release at this point ?
[08:47] <Answer> jerryg: relative to what
[08:47] <deFrysk> and make sure they match your monitor-booklet
[08:47] <jerryg> relative to hoary hedgehog
[08:48] <MikeStyle> jerryg, ive heard breezy was one of the best linux systems, even in beta, im sure youll be happy with it
[08:48] <[A] ndy80> deFrysk: how and where? I also set the HorizontalSync and VerticalRefresh in the Monitor section of xorg.conf....
[08:48] <joelburton> atripathi, answer: found a solution. `wajig detail skype` will show me the exact path of the .deb file on skype's server, and once i know the exact path, i can download it using a brwoser.
[08:48] <jerryg> thank you
[08:48] <j5y> slept: the package i want is the kernel source 2.6.10
[08:48] <j5y> the default hoary kernel source
[08:48] <joelburton> atripathi, answer: thanks for your offers of help.
[08:48] <deFrysk> [A] ndy80, if that is correct I do not know
[08:48] <ejpir> that fixed my problem, thanks:)
[08:48] <Answer> joelburton: Do you foresee other people encountering this same problem when they upgrade to breezy, or is it just your special situation?  You should think about making a wiki page
[08:49] <deFrysk> [A] ndy80, you could try to set it to 16 bit instead of 24 bit
[08:49] <[A] ndy80> deFrysk: before I wrote them on that section there was not horizontalsync and verticalrefresh settings.....
[08:49] <[LethAL] > joelburton, You can get wajig to download and install a deb package anyway
[08:49] <ejpir> has anyone tried mounting smb shares in 5.10 yet though?
[08:49] <ejpir> something seems to be wrong with smbfs or mount
[08:49] <atripathi> :)
[08:49] <smi|e> ubotu tell me about tcl
[08:50] <MikeStyle> bipolar, how many packaged is it installing?
[08:50] <MikeStyle> packages*
[08:50] <nalioth> smi|e: use synaptic for tcl
[08:50] <deFrysk> [A] ndy80, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , use the defaults unless you see incorrect settings, fix them and see if it works better
[08:50] <slept> j5y, apt-cache search kernel source and then just apt-get it
[08:50] <smi|e> nalioth: cant find it there
[08:50] <bipolar> MikeStyle, over 350. it's almost done
[08:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell smi|e about sources
[08:51] <joelburton> [lethal] : wajig won't download something with force
[08:51] <j5y> slept: but i would need internet for that?
[08:51] <[LethAL] > joelburton, force?
[08:51] <MikeStyle> i wish my friend romulo hadnt moved away, he was a linux master :(
[08:51] <slept> j5y, yes , didn't you need internet to download the other things ?
[08:51] <MikeStyle> bipolar, okay
[08:51] <deFrysk> MikeStyle, he was a motu ? ;p
[08:52] <bipolar> MikeStyle, I think I lost my connection.
[08:52] <Ofe> If I have only created one user account on Ubuntu and even that one was created during the installation progress, does that mean that I'm always logged in as admin?
[08:52] <slept> ejpir, samba works fine
[08:52] <joelburton> [lethal]  force is to install it; i wanted to download it even w/unmet deps. couldn't find an option to do that directly with wajig.
[08:52] <[LethAL] > Ofe, no
[08:52] <MikeStyle> deFrysk, im not sure if he was classified or not, i just know he knew EVERYTHING about linuc
[08:52] <Ofe> [LethAL] : phew. thanks.
[08:52] <j5y> slept: yes, but i only have internet on an other windows computer with no apt
[08:52] <[LethAL] > joelburton, oh righ
[08:52] <[LethAL] > t
[08:52] <MikeStyle> bipolar, my connection went out for a few seconds, my ethernet port does that sometimes
[08:52] <ejpir> slept: mount -t smbfs ... etc works for you?
[08:52] <deFrysk> MikeStyle, some geeks do you know
[08:52] <two-sheds> anyone know how to remove the totem plugin from firefox?
[08:52] <[LethAL] > Ofe, that's what sudo is for
[08:53] <bipolar> MikeStyle, ok. I'll have to reconnect
[08:53] <MikeStyle> deFrysk, ever heard of a guy by the alias of Wammy? or Wammy21
[08:53] <joelburton> thanks, al
[08:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi alll
[08:53] <deFrysk> MikeStyle, nope sorry
[08:53] <slept> ejpir, yes give me your whole mount command maybe I can figure out an error, and use smbtree to verify you have spelled server and shares right
[08:53] <bipolar> MikeStyle, did you change the root password?
[08:54] <MikeStyle> bipolar yes
[08:54] <bipolar> MikeStyle, I need to login again.
[08:54] <bipolar> MikeStyle, NM.
[08:54] <Aragorn_Guardian> I instaled ubuntu in a new machine....i remember that was a option - server - for a minimum installl of ubuntu?
[08:54] <Nvidiot> Aragorn_Guardian: yup
[08:54] <bipolar> MikeStyle, my other ssh connection came back
[08:54] <damo21> Hoxzer:  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/clicker/solar_grub_disk.zip?download
[08:54] <deFrysk> Aragorn_Guardian, yes but also no X
[08:55] <MikeStyle> bipolar, alright
[08:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> there is this option? how can i install just the minimum? the less...
[08:55] <zyph> morning
[08:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> deFrysk:  is this...
[08:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[08:55] <bipolar> MikeStyle, I thought it was disconnected, but it just lagged for a few min.
[08:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> deFrysk:  perfect...
[08:55] <MikeStyle> bipolar, yea it does that
[08:55] <baggins> hi. i have an ubuntu machine that isn't working with my dhcp router. all the others in the house are. i've tried switching the cables, but ifup eth0 says, paraphrase, that it's getting no DHCP offers.
[08:55] <MikeStyle> i hated it
[08:55] <zyph> is it just me, or do i have no name?
[08:55] <ejpir> slept: mount -t smbfs -o guest \\192.168.0.2\data /mnt/flip/
[08:55] <MikeStyle> zyph, i see it
[08:55] <[LethAL] > zyph, just you
[08:55] <mohkohn> ../kernel-patches/all/apply/uml  Does this sound like a sensible start to patching?
[08:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> deFrysk:  how can I choose this...i booted like expert and dont could find...
[08:55] <damo21> Hoxzer u got the link? i found u a disk image
[08:55] <damo21> :D
[08:55] <zyph> baggins, hey routers bite i know all about that
[08:56] <[LethAL] > zyph, it's probably your client... some have that option
[08:56] <yaaar> anybody around here know why my menu.lst file would have changed without my knowledge?
[08:56] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, server or server-expert ;)
[08:56] <zyph> baggins, i used static, dhcp didn't like me
[08:56] <slept> ejpir, -o username= and the IP looks strange should be a name , use smbtree to find out
[08:56] <baggins> static doesn't work either
[08:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> hum...damn stupid...hehehehhe
[08:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> is that...
[08:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[08:56] <baggins> i'm not sure why it's doing this... seemingly suddenly
[08:56] <deFrysk> Aragorn_Guardian, all i know it can be done I never did one and thus do not know exept it comes in the packageselection I believe (not sure)
[08:56] <MikeStyle> bipolar, you didnt have to redownload all the packages did you?
[08:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> just expert...not so expert, maybe...hehehehehe
[08:56] <baggins> like if i let it boot up, it has some ipv6 address, which does me no good.
[08:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks
[08:56] <zyph> baggins, have you ever gotten it to work before?
[08:56] <baggins> YES
[08:57] <ejpir> slept: has worked like this for years, I usually had to do apt-get install smbfs, but that seems to be already loaded, seeing lsmod
[08:57] <zyph> baggins: i know what you're talking about
[08:57] <baggins> it was working fine
[08:57] <baggins> then one day... poof
[08:57] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, although, curse me, I would actually recommend Debian stable for a server
[08:57] <zyph> baggins: wierdness
[08:57] <baggins> yes
[08:57] <baggins> well i'll hang in here for a while and repost later maybe :P
[08:57] <zyph> baggins: did you try using the ifconfig to generate some info?
[08:57] <baggins> yes
[08:57] <slept> ejpir, what error do you get ?
[08:57] <baggins> i'm familiar with all that stuff
[08:57] <X3ndou> Heya guys
[08:57] <baggins> but i've never seen it do this
[08:57] <X3ndou> I need libxM.so.3
[08:57] <X3ndou> where can I get it
[08:57] <zyph> baggins: are you the sysadmin?
[08:57] <baggins> effectively
[08:58] <baggins> this is my home network
[08:58] <ejpir> slept: ount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on \192.168.0.2data,
[08:58] <zyph> baggins: ah that puts you one step ahead of myself
[08:58] <baggins> i have a gentoo machine, an ubuntu and a windows xp
[08:58] <bipolar> MikeStyle, 10 more packages
[08:58] <ejpir> slept: almost looks like it's not using smbfs at all
[08:58] <ReleaseX> is the kernel in breezy going to support orinoco scanning?
[08:58] <MikeStyle|in> bipolar ok
[08:58] <baggins> other two are working fine
[08:58] <zyph> baggins: my challenge was dealing with a stepdad who thought everything opensource is a virus
[08:58] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  i was asking here for that...ubuntu server is like debian, or not? debian will be better?
[08:59] <zyph> baggins: and his answer to my linux woes (of his creation) was to switch to windows
[08:59] <MikeStyle|shower> bipolar, i have to hop in the shower real quick, when i come back can you tell me if its done?
[08:59] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, debian stable is outdated because it has so much testing
[08:59] <slept> ejpir, install smbclient
[08:59] <zyph> baggins: of course turns out it was his settings that were preventing me from accessing the network
[08:59] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, Well over six months of it
[08:59] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  sure...
[08:59] <zyph> baggins: and again if all else fails *power_cycle*
[09:00] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, so it's rock solid
[09:00] <zyph> baggins: but i'm no expert
[09:00] <ejpir> slept: is done per default, I was able to get on it via smbclient though:)
[09:00] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  i like possibility of have the same system in my desktop, for test the packages, and after install them safelly in server, with ubuntu
[09:00] <Nvidiot> I yet have to see a stripped linux install being unstable
[09:00] <bipolar> MikeStyle|shower, sure
[09:00] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  in debian i depend only from apt-get
[09:00] <zyph> baggins: cat ifconfig to a text file
[09:00] <[LethAL] > heh
[09:00] <[LethAL] > Fair dos
[09:01] <zyph> baggins: try posting it in the forum or something
[09:01] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  debian is solid, i know, but, ubuntu is not so solid as?
[09:01] <two-sheds> baggins sounds like the nic isn't working right.. maybe the kernel or modules changed?
[09:01] <JustSomeone> How do you link output to a text file? Do you use the > things?
[09:01] <zyph> baggins: i'm sure some guru will psychically know
[09:01] <GDorn> yep.  or >> to append
[09:01] <Nvidiot> JustSomeone: command > output
[09:01] <zyph> yeah
[09:01] <JustSomeone> ok thanks
[09:01] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, Well... usually, but if you're ok with that, go ahead
[09:01] <zyph> that's what i meant
[09:01] <ejpir> slept: did you manually install smbfs though?
[09:01] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  i said...is not debian at all?
[09:02] <zyph> so like cat file > textfile
[09:02] <Nvidiot> yup
[09:02] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, Well... ubuntu isn't like other debianbased distros
[09:02] <slept> ejpir, can't remember use dpkg --get-selections |grep smb to find out
[09:02] <JustSomeone> Yeah ^^
[09:02] <zyph> i like doing cat ls > dircontents
[09:02] <seife> Hi
[09:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  no...i was just asking...i know about thousands of debian developers, that are really good...
[09:02] <bipolar> MikeStyle|shower, are you still there?
[09:02] <Concord_Dawn> can someone help me with getting Apache2 to support JSP?
[09:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  whats the difference, so? kernel?
[09:02] <seife> Is there any good program for downloading stuff in linux? like music, videos, etc..
[09:03] <JustSomeone> how do you cat an ls?
[09:03] <ejpir> libsmbclient                                    install
[09:03] <ejpir> smbclient                                       ins
[09:03] <ejpir> both there:x
[09:03] <j5y> how do i install the file after download (look at bottom) http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/devel/linux-source-2.6.10
[09:03] <JustSomeone> it would have to be a file wouldnt it?
[09:03] <ejpir> I'll see if I can fix it some how
[09:03] <zyph> easy
[09:03] <Concord_Dawn> !apache
[09:03] <ubotu> apache is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[09:03] <zyph> cat ls > textfile
[09:03] <seife> Is there any good program for downloading stuff in linux? like music, videos, etc..
[09:03] <zyph> try it
[09:03] <JustSomeone> I dont have a shell in front of me :/
[09:03] <zyph> lol you mean illegal stuf seife?
[09:03] <slept> ejpir, smbfs ?
[09:03] <seife> yes
[09:03] <zyph> well there's your problem
[09:03] <two-sheds> heh
[09:04] <zyph> open one
[09:04] <Concord_Dawn> can someone help me with getting Apache2 to support JSP?
[09:04] <Concord_Dawn> please?
[09:04] <seife> i mean like limewire, kazaa, etc..
[09:04] <JustSomeone> lol
[09:04] <zyph> Vegar was here?
[09:04] <zyph> he's in my lnx guild...
[09:04] <Concord_Dawn> !apache2java
[09:04] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: I give up, what is it?
[09:04] <EasterSunshine> limewire is available in linux
[09:04] <Concord_Dawn> limewire is a computer killer.
[09:04] <zyph> limewire is corrupt now though
[09:04] <zyph> use bittorrent
[09:04] <ejpir> slept: smbfs is not listed at all
[09:04] <zyph> ktorrent
[09:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  I installed debian here too, was beatiful. my machine never has so much free ram as with debian...very nice
[09:04] <zyph> or gtk-gnutella
[09:04] <slept> ejpir, install it
[09:04] <seife> computer killer? why?
[09:05] <dikrib> Hey, anyone interested in helping a person comletely new to linux with installing ubuntu?
[09:05] <ejpir> slept: Package smbfs is not available, but is referred to by another package. -- although I added multiverse
[09:05] <zyph> dikrib, if you are female and offering your body sure!
[09:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  but you think ubuntu i] like server, was tested enough, for be useful? have some info about that?
[09:05] <zyph> j/k
[09:05] <dikrib> :(
[09:05] <zyph> lol sorry
[09:05] <seife> where can i get Bittorrent, i think ubuntu comes with GnomeBittorrent, something like that but it needs the location for bittorrent meta files, wth.
[09:06] <zyph> google bittorrent to get some fun links
[09:06] <EasterSunshine> hey, can someone help, i just installed ubuntu and my optical usb mouse is not working; it is plugged into ps/2 via converter
[09:06] <nalioth> seife: in your home dir
[09:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> j5y:  dpkg -i PACKAGE
[09:06] <zyph> w00t, kynaptic is done
[09:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> anyone is using ubuntu in a server? any info?
[09:06] <Nvidiot> seife: I like Azureus, needs java though
[09:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[09:06] <zyph> allright i'm out, take care noobles
[09:07] <zyph> *peace out*
[09:07] <skyblownet> finaly
[09:07] <baggins> wow
[09:08] <baggins> lots of spam now i'm in here
[09:08] <skyblownet> damo21 sbn here, got in irc now :d
[09:08] <slept> ejpir, you got main restricted universe and multiverse ?
[09:08] <skyblownet> irc = ubuntu
[09:08] <z4ck> hi!
[09:09] <StylusEater_Work> anyone get a netgear WG111 working under ubuntu yet?
[09:09] <z4ck> anyone else have problems install blackhawk java
[09:09] <fredforfaen> whats netgear?
[09:09] <ejpir> slept: as far as I know, just uncommented all in sources.list and added multiverse
[09:09] <queuetue> Hi, all.  How do  I restart the video card setup?  (My card died and X will not start with the new one.)
[09:09] <Nvidiot> z4ck: I used the 1.5.0 update 5 from sun, works great
[09:09] <nalioth> fredforfaen: a brand name
[09:09] <z4ck> i have tried that
[09:09] <z4ck> but it doesnt seem to work
[09:09] <readtard> Hey! - anyone know of very simple wiki for php & mysql i have no shell access on a server...?
[09:10] <z4ck> i did sh install
[09:10] <TiMiDo> hey does ubuntu reconized Dvd players automatic or i have to do something ?
[09:10] <TiMiDo> !dvd
[09:10] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[09:10] <slept> ejpir, I dont no what repo it is, add those I wrote than you should be able to install it
[09:10] <Nvidiot> z4ck: the sun java has to be turned into a package, then installed
[09:10] <skyblownet> root password of ubuntu?
[09:10] <Nvidiot> z4ck: it's on the wiki somewhere
[09:11] <TiMiDo> !hoary-extras
[09:11] <ubotu> somebody said hoary-extras was see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[09:11] <Nvidiot> skyblownet: ubuntu doesn't have a root password. You use sudo command
[09:11] <deFrysk> !javadeb
[09:11] <ubotu> javadeb is, like, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[09:11] <slept> !root
[09:11] <ubotu> somebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:11] <queuetue> How do  I restart the video card setup?  (My card died and X will not start with the new one.)
[09:11] <Dolm|SMC|Work> !meaning_of_life
[09:11] <ubotu> Dolm|SMC|Work: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:11] <ProN00b> sudo is teh shit logic
[09:11] <z4ck> i have breezy badger
[09:11] <ejpir> slept: didn't get the msg, I'm not sure if I can get private msges as unregistered user?
[09:12] <z4ck> breezy K7
[09:12] <[LethAL] > ejpir, NO, you can't
[09:12] <slept> ejpir, I do/did not pm , universe multiverse restricted and main should be all you need
[09:12] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks by the help...
[09:12] <ejpir> slept: allright, will give it a try, thanks for the help so far;)
[09:13] <MikeStyle> omg bipolar i love you
[09:13] <EasterSunshine> !usbmouse
[09:13] <ubotu> EasterSunshine: Are you on ritalin?
[09:13] <Nvidiot> z4ck: get the jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin, then: sudo apt-get install java-package java-common && chmod +x jre-1_5... && fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5.... && sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re....deb
[09:13] <MikeStyle> thank you so much bipolar
[09:14] <obiyoda> Is there an easier way to get the xserver back up and running besides using the xorgconfig? I killed my xserver somehow and nothing is working
[09:14] <robbkidd> Anyone here using Evolution+Exchange? And figured out a workaround for the problem adding an unnecessary semi-colon to folder paths?
[09:14] <slept> EasterSunshine, unless you don't want to tell someone else use /msg ubotu usbmouse or whatever you want to know
[09:14] <z4ck> Nvidiot,  if i just download a .deb package will it work
[09:14] <z4ck> from here
[09:14] <ejpir> slept: worked, merci
[09:14] <z4ck> http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[09:14] <Nvidiot> z4ck: should work yup :)
[09:14] <z4ck> k
[09:15] <slept> ejpir, :)
[09:15] <z4ck> ill try this
[09:15] <Nvidiot> z4ck: then you just need the sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[09:15] <z4ck> thank you
[09:16] <z4ck> im going to download the package
[09:16] <queuetue> How would I redetect for a new video card?
[09:17] <slept> queuetue, what kind of card ?
[09:17] <Rocky|away> hm, a few days ago i did an apt-get upgrade in breezy and my wireless (ndiswrapper-based broadcom in my dell latitude d800) device stopped working ... anyone know what the problem might be?
[09:17] <Antiliis> hi! what is the tool to configure grub partitions in gnome in breezy?
[09:17] <x_o1> Anyone using nxclient?  I just need to know how to run the application?  "nxclient host application"?
[09:17] <queuetue> slept: An s3 prosavage 8.
[09:18] <Waerner> Please, is someone familiar with fluxbox? I installed it via apt-get but I'm unable to start it...
[09:18] <slept> queuetue, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then sellect your card
[09:19] <slept> Waerner, you can select it at your gdm/kdm loginscreen
[09:19] <Waerner> hmm
[09:19] <Waerner> *checking*
[09:20] <TiMiDo> !marillat
[09:20] <ubotu> Not a clue, TiMiDo
[09:20] <z4ck> Waerner,  is fluxbox a Desktop enviorment?
[09:20] <Waerner> z4ck, yes
[09:20] <Waerner> I've just read the docs 'bout it, but the files .xsession and .xinitrc...
[09:20] <Waerner> doesn't exists*
[09:21] <z4ck> its should work.. Logout > then at the login screen select session > fluxbox
[09:21] <Waerner> But hey, I saw it now, under "Session Type" Thanks alot slept!
[09:21] <Waerner> Someone told me it's much faster than KDE
[09:21] <damo21> also xfce :D
[09:21] <TiMiDo> where can i get libdvdcss2
[09:21] <TiMiDo> ?
[09:21] <z4ck> probley is
[09:22] <Venson> Waerner: you are misinformed
[09:22] <TiMiDo> where can i get libdvdcss2
[09:22] <Venson> Waerner: KDE is a desktop. Fluxbox is a Window Manager. WM is just part of a desktop.....and doesn't have as many features
[09:22] <damo21> i know where to get libdvdcss
[09:22] <TiMiDo> !dvd
[09:22] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[09:22] <TiMiDo> !info libdvdcss2
[09:22] <TiMiDo> !hoary-extras
[09:22] <ubotu> from memory, hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[09:23] <Waerner> Omg, I guess I have a few hours spending with configuration :) thank you guys
[09:23] <Mustard5> yay..I'm in
[09:23] <damo21> from memory? rofl
[09:23] <Antiliis> hi! what is the tool to configure grub partitions in gnome in breezy?
[09:23] <bipolar> I guess it worked
[09:24] <damo21> Antilliis: configure grub partitions? what about nano /boot/grub/grub.conf
[09:24] <Antiliis> damo21: yes, this is ok, but there's a graphical config tool to do this
[09:24] <damo21> oh?
[09:25] <Antiliis> damo21: but I don't know what's its name
[09:25] <damo21> hmm
[09:25] <mohkohn> ../kernel-patches/all/apply/uml No "User-mode Linux" patch found for kernel version 2.6.12
[09:25] <damo21> use bash completion to guess :D
[09:25] <Nvidiot> staying with the whole k{tool_name} or g{tool_name} I'd guess: ggrub(-configure) or kgrub(-configure) ;)
[09:25] <mohkohn> Do I need to rename my uml file somehow?
[09:25] <Rounin> Hi! I was wondering, are there any input methods (SCIM, UIM, IIMF etc.) that are supported in Ubuntu? I tried installing SCIM in Breezy, but it seems to be segfaulting
[09:25] <Antiliis> mmmmm I tried apt-cache search grub, without success
[09:26] <damo21> Antiliis:  open terminal, use bash completion to find the name
[09:27] <Antiliis> damo21: I tried grub<tab>, but none of the results makes me happy
[09:27] <skyblownet> how can i mount my windows hd?
[09:27] <Mustard5> what file format is it?
[09:27] <skyblownet> well
[09:27] <skyblownet> the L:\ drive is FAT32
[09:28] <damo21> mount -t vfat /dev/....
[09:28] <Mustard5> I assume its called hda1 in linux?
[09:28] <Nvidiot> so much for firefox... it *STILL* has that bug where if you select some text and randomly try to drag it, it'll crash
[09:28] <seife> how do i install my radeon7500 drivers on linux?
[09:28] <skyblownet> probaly
[09:28] <Nvidiot> hda1 would be first harddisk, first partition
[09:28] <damo21> mount -t vfat /dev/{h,s}dx
[09:28] <Blissex> seife: which drivers? As a rule there are some that are already included.
[09:29] <damo21> where h is for ide , s for scsi... x is # of partition
[09:29] <Blissex> seife: if you don't care about 3D acceleration, use the 'radeon' drivers just like that. If you case, consider the proprietary 'fglrx' drivers or the 'radeon' driver plus DRI.
[09:29] <skyblownet> damo21 it gives me a error if i do
[09:29] <slept> seife, install restricted modules and firegl xorg driver , change your xorg config to firegl via dpkg-reconfigure
[09:30] <lsuactiafner> what sound manager/deamon does ubuntu use by default?
[09:30] <slept> esd
[09:30] <damo21> skyblownet which partition is it... and is it scsi or ide hdd?
[09:30] <Blissex> seife: the 'radeon' driver is included with X; the 'fglrx' driver is in a special repository, and there is an HOWTO in the Ubuntu Wiki about binary only drivers
[09:30] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[09:30] <skyblownet> dunno whats diffrence?
[09:30] <Blissex> lsuactiafner: depends on what you install.
[09:30] <tristanmike> skyblownet, you can use this script to auto mount your partitions http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[09:30] <mortal_> hey all, I'm trying to get sound working in ubuntu
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[09:30] <z4ck> ATI
[09:30] <z4ck> drivers
[09:31] <seife> Blissex,  can i download that fglrx with synaptic?
[09:31] <z4ck> fucking suck go buy a nvidia card
[09:31] <skyblownet> damo21: i just started with linux
[09:31] <damo21> :)
[09:31] <z4ck> sorry for the language .. but its a big mess
[09:31] <Mustard5> heh
[09:31] <slept> z4ck, ????
[09:31] <tristanmike> damo21, sorry to jump in on you there
[09:31] <Blissex> seife: yes, as described in the Binary Driver pages in the Ubuntu Wiki, which is easy to find.
[09:31] <slept> z4ck, whats your problem with ati ?
[09:31] <damo21> cool thats even easirt
[09:31] <damo21> easier
[09:31] <mortal_> I need some help with sound in ubuntu
[09:32] <Blissex> seife: but note that the 7500 is well supported by 'radeon' and 'dri', which are more reliable than 'fglrx' even if a bit slower.
[09:32] <z4ck> because their failer to make a decent driver for linux
[09:32] <skyblownet> but i should learn what the diffrence is and so one
[09:32] <damo21> i agree z4ck i am waiting with my radeon 9800pro its useless
[09:32] <damo21> :(
[09:32] <seife> well should i download fglrx
[09:32] <ProN00b> i got a lil problem there, my mp3 player (usb storage device - needs FAT (normal FAT, not FAT32) ) gets automounted by linux and i can read the files from it that i have written to it from windows, i can also write and read to it like to a normal drive, but everything that i seem to touch with ubuntu on there seems to be not playable anymore on the player, but it doesn't disappear, and mounting the stick in windows again i can access the files
[09:32] <ProN00b> i wrote to it from ubuntu, does anyone know how to "make it work" ?
[09:32] <z4ck> same here
[09:33] <z4ck> i got a 9700 pro
[09:33] <z4ck> spent probley 10 hours attempting to get opengl drivers to work
[09:33] <Mustard5> to mount my vfat drive I create a new dir in the /mnt directory called /hda1, then I type moutn -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[09:33] <z4ck> my friend said just down grade to hoary and u can get it to work
[09:33] <Mustard5> to mount my vfat drive I create a new dir in the /mnt directory called /hda1, then I type mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[09:33] <damo21> z4ck: all these super advanced games and i cant even use translucency
[09:33] <mortal_> I'm trying to get sound working in ubuntu, I've checked the mixer, my card is properly detected, and the volume is up
[09:33] <Belutz> ProN00b, format the usb using FAT32
[09:33] <skyblownet> Mustard5: did that work?
[09:33] <nalioth> Mustard5: /msg ubotu windowsdrives
[09:33] <Mustard5> yeah
[09:33] <z4ck> i cant even use hardware GL
[09:34] <damo21> lol
[09:34] <kbrooks> mouse is buggy...
[09:34] <z4ck> im switching to nvidia im sick of ati
[09:34] <ProN00b> Belutz, the player needs FAT, it doesn't accept FAT32
[09:34] <kbrooks> whats ati
[09:34] <damo21> z4ck u can get cheapo nvidia card
[09:34] <tristanmike> skyblownet, all of that comes with time, shouldn't the goal be automatically having this done?
[09:35] <z4ck> i play wolfenstein et
[09:35] <Venson> Mustard5: is that a flash drive?
[09:35] <damo21> as long as its directx9 u will get decent use
[09:35] <damo21> on linux
[09:35] <Belutz> ProN00b, i don't think it can write to FAT, maybe the others have solution, or google it
[09:35] <z4ck> Im so sick of windows its not even funny
[09:35] <pir> helo, Any one have kismet working with orinoco driver? I just did all the tasks in the "howto Orinoco + Monitor + kismet_2005 +hoary" and it still doesn't work...
[09:35] <seife> Why i cant play .mp3 music file?
[09:35] <seife> Why i cant play .mp3 music file?
[09:35] <Mustard5> no..its my hard drive
[09:35] <Blissex> one can write to FAT partitions...
[09:35] <z4ck> i switch to windows to play wolf thats it
[09:35] <damo21> yep
[09:35] <tristanmike> !tell seife about mp3
[09:35] <z4ck> seife, download xmms
[09:35] <Blissex> z4ck: I think Wolfenstein is available for GNU/Linux
[09:36] <damo21> z4ck u can get ET for linux
[09:36] <z4ck> Blissex,  IT IS
[09:36] <z4ck> if u have drivers
[09:36] <z4ck> if u have opengl drivers!
[09:36] <damo21> but u need to buy cheapo nvidia card
[09:36] <Blissex> seife: almost surely because you dont have the MP3 decoders which are semi proprietary.
[09:36] <damo21> :D
[09:36] <z4ck> yea i can play it in software gl
[09:36] <z4ck> lmao........
[09:36] <damo21> hehe
[09:36] <z4ck> 1 fps
[09:36] <kbrooks> Blissex: he's saying that w/o the drivers its slow
[09:36] <seife> Blissex, where can i get that mp3 decoders?
[09:36] <Blissex> seife: however, some sordid characters have made available packags with the right decoders. It is in the Ubuntu Wiki where
[09:36] <tristanmike> seife, look at what ubotu messaged you
[09:37] <damo21> seife: enable the universe repositories
[09:37] <Blissex> !mp3
[09:37] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:37] <z4ck> its a joke... screw ati lazy shits
[09:37] <damo21> hehe
[09:37] <kbrooks> z4ck: what is a joke
[09:37] <seife> ok thanks
[09:37] <seife> hehe
[09:37] <Blissex> z4ck: for older ATI cards (9600 and earlier) the DRI open source drivers are pretty good.
[09:37] <z4ck> ATI drivers
[09:37] <seife> where do i enable those universe reporitories?
[09:37] <Blissex> seife: it is in the Ubuntu Wiki... :-)
[09:37] <Blissex> !repos
[09:37] <kbrooks> Blissex: ati drivers. hardware.
[09:37] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:38] <kbrooks> not those open source drivers (software)
[09:38] <mortal_> can anyone help me with my sound problems?
[09:38] <z4ck> i need hardware Gl
[09:38] <slept> z4ck, doesnt xorg-driver-fglrx work ?
[09:38] <Blissex> kbrooks: but the open source 'radeon' drivers are 3D accelerated, up to the 9200 by default, and with an update up to the 9600.
[09:38] <z4ck> lmao
[09:38] <mortal_> I have a sb audigy 1, which is detected by alsa, the mixer is up, but I still get no sound
[09:38] <z4ck> ghaha.. i spent hours with taht one
[09:38] <Blissex> mortal_: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions
[09:38] <__boomer> hi
[09:38] <grayman> ah
[09:39] <grayman> its easy
[09:39] <grayman> z4ck, i just fixed that myself
[09:39] <grayman> !ati
[09:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[09:39] <__boomer> what do i have to change to follow text links by clicking the middle mouse button?
[09:39] <skyblownet> isn't quake 3 arena for linux out too?
[09:39] <grayman> that last url is good
[09:39] <Blissex> mortal_: also consider reading the troubleshooting section of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 it works most of the time.
[09:39] <grayman> plus use kernel for 386
[09:39] <[NeiL] > can anybody help me with cedega?
[09:39] <baggins> maybe
[09:39] <Blissex> skyblownet: yes, and several pretty good other 3D games, some of them open source.
[09:39] <z4ck> thers alot of games out for linux
[09:39] <kbrooks> [NeiL] : ask, but its nonfree
[09:40] <Blissex> [NeiL] : try #WINE or TransGaming support...
[09:40] <baggins> [NeiL] : maybe if you tell us the problem
[09:40] <damo21> grayman: so u have 9800pro card and hardware accell on breezy?
[09:40] <[NeiL] > i want to run CS in a window, non full screen mode
[09:40] <kbrooks> Blissex: cedega != wine
[09:40] <ProN00b> what open source app is closest to cedega ?
[09:40] <luite> I have to buy a new video card (because of an upgrade to a pci-e motherboard), which brand whould you recommend, ati or nvidia? I always thought that nvidia had better drivers, but I've seen that ati has a new nice packaging tool, and has possibly (?) made some other improvements to the drivers?
[09:40] <Blissex> kbrooks: yes, but most Cedega problems are very similar to WINE
[09:40] <damo21> ProNooB : wine
[09:40] <kbrooks> ProN00b: closest -- none
[09:40] <ProN00b> and why isn't cedega free if it uses wine code ?
[09:40] <baggins> [NeiL] : have a look in ~/.transgaming/config ... there should be lines like ;"Desktop" = "800x600"
[09:40] <Nvidiot> luite: nvidia, the ati drivers are still frustrating
[09:41] <kbrooks> ProN00b: wine is licensed under the lgpl
[09:41] <Blissex> ProN00b: it is opne source -- the sources
[09:41] <z4ck> luite,  agp NVIDIA VIDEO CARD
[09:41] <[NeiL] > baggins: thx i will try it :)
[09:41] <Blissex> luite: depends what you want to do with it.
[09:41] <baggins> [NeiL] : remove the ; and set the size of your desktop in a window to use that.
[09:41] <[LethAL] > ProN00b, the CVS version is, it misses copy protection or something
[09:41] <kbrooks> Blissex: cvs sources
[09:41] <Blissex> ProN00b: it is opne source -- the sources are free. You have to pay for the binaries.
[09:41] <damo21> lol
[09:41] <z4ck> ATI package is a bunch of crap go with nvidia
[09:41] <ProN00b> Blissex, so where is the cedega source, and what keeps me from using it ?
[09:42] <Blissex> ProN00b: not much -- the lack of copy protection perhaps.
[09:42] <damo21> So where can i dl cedega open source?
[09:42] <ProN00b> lack of ?
[09:42] <ProN00b> what you mean ?
[09:42] <luite> Blissex: uhm, I run breezy, and want to do some gaming, have the latest window effects eye candy thingies etc ;) and some maya
[09:42] <slept> luite, matrox , you'll get open drivers :)
[09:42] <Blissex> ProN00b: there are quite a few Cedega-from-CVS building HOWTOs/tutorials around.
[09:43] <luite> slept: and stone age performance.. :(
[09:43] <Blissex> ProN00b: note that it is not easy to build Cedega-from-CVS, and the price is very low.
[09:43] <Blissex> luite: Cedega and even some recent version of WINE are rumoured to run Doom3 pretty fast.
[09:43] <tristanmike> Blissex, why run Doom3 under wine when it has a linux client?
[09:43] <ProN00b> Blissex, you bet the suckers make it hard to get from cvs to get your money
[09:43] <luite> z4ck: is agp support better than pci-e support? I wanted to buy a pci-e mobo with nforce4
[09:44] <[NeiL] > baggins: thx, it works perfectly but mouse is "trapped" and cannot go outside of the window
[09:44] <Blissex> luite: however quite a few games are natively available for GNU/Linux and with the right driver they have all the modern effects too.
[09:44] <z4ck> well
[09:44] <z4ck> newer video cards even with windows are always less supported
[09:44] <baggins> [NeiL] : i think something like Ctrl-g will grab/release it
[09:44] <Blissex> ProN00b: no, it is just quite hard. Building Cedega-from-CVS is not significantly harder than building WINE-from-CVS.
[09:44] <z4ck> pci-e.. id go with a 6600 GT
[09:45] <damo21> tristanmike:  Dont think of wine and cedega as "emulators" they dont emulate anything, they just filter and let linux kernel run the win32 binaries
[09:45] <bloodnik> Apt-get is giving me errors about dependencies whereby the ubuntu version of a package is going to be installed and that's not good enough
[09:45] <baggins> [NeiL] : or it might be f12 and g ... i think one is UAE and one is wine, i forget which
[09:45] <bloodnik> eg libavcodeccvs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[09:45] <nalioth> bloodnik: are you using backports
[09:45] <ProN00b> Blissex, the last time i got something from cvs and built it it was 4 commands (not including the apt-getting dependencys)
[09:45] <bloodnik> I'll check
[09:45] <[NeiL] > baggins: negative :(
[09:45] <skyblownet> damo21:  so that would mean that i can run explorer.exe in linux?
[09:45] <luite> Blissex: ah, sounds good.. unfortunately I don't like doom3 that much... I still have dualboot for games, but I'd like to play ut2004 without having to reboot to windows :)
[09:45] <yaaar> anybody round here use bacula? i finally got it all configured and when i try to start it i get:
[09:45] <yaaar> Fatal error: Version error for database "bacula". Wanted 8, got 7
[09:46] <tristanmike> damo21, I never suggested that I thought that, why did you? I merely asked why run it under Wine and not naitive?
[09:46] <yaaar> it's exactly like this guy's post to the debian lists: http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2005/01/msg00087.html
[09:46] <bloodnik> nalioth, no backports in my sources.list
[09:46] <damo21> tristanmike: because it might run faster in wine
[09:46] <damo21> :D
[09:46] <tristanmike> damo21, :) Ok, thanx
[09:46] <Blissex> luite: Well, you are _awesomely_ lucky as while Doom3 for Linux costs extra, the Linux port of UT2004 is included on the CD/DVD.
[09:47] <tristanmike> damo21, I actually read a review that suggested it might, but I was just curious why not support the naitivity :)
[09:47] <Blissex> tristanmike: some people run the MS Windows version of Doom3 on GNU/Linux because they already paid for it, and the Linux port costs extra.
[09:47] <bluefoxicy> ATI RAge 128, any good?
[09:47] <skyblownet> !tell sbn about mp3
[09:47] <damo21> i cant test it yet, i dont have ati drivers working
[09:47] <Nvidiot> bluefoxicy: for 2d yes. For 3d, no
[09:47] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: by today's standards it is awesomely slow in 3D, but pretty good still in 2D
[09:48] <luite> Blissex / z4ck / Nvidi:  tnx for the suggestionson I'll go voor nvidia... now I only have to determine  the best card in my budget :)
[09:48] <bloodnik> tell a lie, backports were there
[09:48] <Blissex> luite: whats your budget and country?
[09:48] <baggins> [NeiL] : hrm.... i can't remember... someone told me once... i never found the docs... ask in #cedega
[09:48] <mortal_> ok folks, where do i get make gcc and such?
[09:48] <Nvidiot> luite: tomshardware has vga charts, comparing cards :) Nice to help pick a card
[09:48] <luite> Blissex: I think about 150 euros, netherlands
[09:48] <damo21> luite: if u are buying video card... go Nvidia!!! Ati linux support SUX
[09:48] <Answer> luite:  www.mwave.com  www.insight.com  www.newegg.com
[09:48] <[NeiL] > baggins: thx for your help :)
[09:48] <Blissex> luite: uhmmmm, I just bought an NVIDIA in that price range.
[09:49] <Nvidiot> mortal_: it's in one package... basic-compilers or something like that
[09:49] <Belutz> mortal_, install build-essential
[09:49] <Blissex> luite: as in today!
[09:49] <mortal_> rgr
[09:49] <luite> Blissex: ah which one?
[09:49] <bluefoxicy> Blissex, Nvidiot:  Found it in a dell I just was given
[09:49] <Blissex> luite: it is an NVIDIA 6800LE
[09:49] <Nvidiot> bulid-essential, that's it
[09:49] <ProN00b> Blissex, can't someone else redistribute its binaries legally ?
[09:49] <luite> Blissex: agp or pci express?
[09:49] <bluefoxicy> Blissex, Nvidiot:  Looks like the damn thing is pentium 4 PC133 based, I don't have PC133 ram.
[09:49] <Nvidiot> bluefoxicy: ick, P4 with sdram, slooow
[09:50] <Ti_Uhl> hello
[09:50] <skyblownet> !tell skyblownet about mp3
[09:50] <Blissex> luite: I got the 6800LE AGP, which has a big advantage over the PCI-E version.
[09:50] <bluefoxicy> Nvidiot:  i'm an athlon 64 guy.
[09:50] <damo21> my question:  will 9800pro have composite, 100% hardware accellerated opengl support in breezy?
[09:50] <mortal_> Belutz, ruhroe, synaptic came up empty
[09:50] <Belutz> mortal_, it can't be
[09:50] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: contrarily to rumours, PC133 SDRAM is about as fast as PC2100 DDR, which is to say not too bad.
[09:50] <Belutz> mortal_, check your sources.list
[09:50] <Ti_Uhl> does it hurt to upgrade my hoary to breezer ? or should i wait untill the official release ?
[09:50] <luite> Blissex: advantage? I always thought that the 6x00 series were native pci-e, ant that the agp version was slower
[09:51] <kbrooks> Ti_Uhl: it is rc quality
[09:51] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: also, PC133 SDRAM is easy to find used and cheap, for obvious reasons.
[09:51] <dazzed> i need MUCH help
[09:51] <Blissex> Ti_Uhl: just wait a bit.
[09:51] <kbrooks> dazzed: ASK
[09:51] <damo21> Ti_Uhl.... dont bother because u will upgrade again?
[09:51] <Belutz> Ti_Uhl, if you use computer for production, i suggest you wait
[09:51] <z4ck> im thinkng about just download kubuntu horay becausee ATI do work on it
[09:51] <damo21> z4ck... wait till breezy release :D
[09:51] <Ti_Uhl> kbrooks : and if i would do the upgrade, would updating my apt sources be sufficient ?
[09:51] <bluefoxicy> Blissex:  best buy charges $120 for 256M PC133 and $50 for 256M DDR333
[09:51] <Blissex> luite: the story is this: the 6[26] 00 is native PCI-E and needs a bridge for AGP, not that changes anything.
[09:51] <dazzed> well i upgraded to breezy but when unpacking packages and setting up my computer shut off so i did the rest in terminal ... now i am stuck without x cuz some packages are being held back
[09:52] <z4ck>  im on breezy right now
[09:52] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: buy it used.
[09:52] <kbrooks> Ti_Uhl: No. apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:52] <Belutz> z4ck, if you have fast internet connections, go ahead :)
[09:52] <Nvidiot> Ti_Uhl: there is a wiki on how to update
[09:52] <damo21> no, z4ck u have preview breezy
[09:52] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: the new is expensive because it is from old stock and is a rarity.
[09:52] <damo21> :D
[09:52] <z4ck> im on dialup lol
[09:52] <mortal_> Belutz, ok i'm in my sources.list, what am i looking for?
[09:52] <kbrooks> damo21: um
[09:52] <z4ck> im not on kubuntu
[09:52] <z4ck> im on ubuntu
[09:52] <dazzed> anyone?
[09:52] <Belutz> mortal_, please paste it in the pastebin
[09:52] <z4ck> with kde
[09:52] <luite> Blissex: ah
[09:52] <Ti_Uhl> damo21 : so i'd be better off waiting untill next week
[09:53] <dazzed> i do install packages that are being held back?
[09:53] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: however here in the UK I can get 512MB of SDRAM 133 for around $60
[09:53] <kbrooks> Ti_Uhl: it works for me
[09:53] <dazzed> i have 111 to be upgraded and they are being held back?
[09:53] <mortal_> k
[09:53] <damo21> kbrooks?  official breezy release not til 13th october right?
[09:53] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: because there is one retailed that still sells it currently
[09:53] <kbrooks> upgraded,  no problem so far
[09:53] <Ti_Uhl> kbrooks : yeah but i can't afford the risk off screwing up my laptop
[09:53] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[09:53] <dazzed> anyone???
[09:53] <Ti_Uhl> kbrooks : i need it for school
[09:53] <Blissex> luite: the 6600GT and the 6800LE are about the same speed overall, AGP or PCI-E
[09:53] <atripathi> kbrooks why dont ya get edubuntu
[09:54] <Belutz> Ti_Uhl, so i suggest you wat for 8 more days :)
[09:54] <damo21> i am running preview breezy... what will happen when the official release comes out?
[09:54] <Belutz> *wait
[09:54] <Blissex> luite: the 6600GT performs a bit better on complex scenes, the 6800LE on AA/Anisotropic.
[09:54] <kbrooks> atripathi: i'm on ubuntu
[09:54] <Blissex> luite: and their price is about the same.
[09:54] <Ti_Uhl> Belutz : will do that then :)
[09:54] <dazzed> can anyone help me installing packages that are being "held"
[09:54] <damo21> what do i do with it?
[09:54] <bloodnik> nalioth, I added the backports that ubotu told me to but I'm getting the same problems with a few packages.
[09:54] <atripathi> sorry not for you......but to Ti_Uhl
[09:54] <Answer> dazzed: held where?
[09:54] <kbrooks> damo21: you can apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade then
[09:54] <Ti_Uhl> maybe it's for the best, it's just that i'am really looking forward to see the changes :)
[09:54] <luite> Blissex: ah, and that's about my price range, the lowest prices are just under 150 euros
[09:54] <atripathi> edubuntu project is for schools
[09:54] <damo21> cool :D
[09:54] <kbrooks> or use the update manager
[09:54] <luite> Blissex: at least here in nl :)
[09:55] <Blissex> luite: if you look at the graphics card mass tests on TomsHardware.com or XbitLabs.com, from say 6 months ago.
[09:55] <Blissex> luite: yes, exactly, they are almost exactly the same price.
[09:55] <kbrooks> so what's this, a "connect to server"
[09:55] <Ti_Uhl> atripathi : don't need all the school apps :) i'm getting my master degree in IT
[09:55] <Blissex> luite: I got the 6800LE because I got the AGP version which can be unlocked to become a 6800 in many cases...
[09:55] <Ti_Uhl> so it's basicly for programming :)
[09:55] <damo21> kbrooks... ive enabled all the universe and multiverse stuff... is that bad if i do the dist-upgrade?
[09:55] <Belutz> kbrooks, it allows you to connect to ftp server, samba server, etc
[09:55] <kbrooks> damo21: No
[09:55] <luite> Blissex: ah, the pci-e version can't be unlocked?
[09:55] <Blissex> Ti_Uhl: if you are in a western country, welcome to a life flipping hamburgers and waiting tables.
[09:56] <mortal_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2765
[09:56] <kbrooks> Belutz: i'm exploring it ;)
[09:56] <atripathi> hehe    here normally school refers to the institution till HigherSecondary
[09:56] <Blissex> luite: no, because for PCI-E the 6800LE and 6800 are actually two distinct chipsets.
[09:56] <Ti_Uhl> Blissex : i'm from belgium :)
[09:56] <mortal_> Belutz, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2765
[09:56] <nalioth> damo21: not at all
[09:56] <Blissex> Ti_Uhl: you are dooooood :-).
[09:56] <luite> Blissex: hm, too bad :(  but 6600gt sounds good then
[09:56] <Ti_Uhl> lol
[09:56] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[09:56] <Belutz> Ti_Uhl, may I pm you ?
[09:56] <Ti_Uhl> yeah
[09:56] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[09:56] <kbrooks> Belutz: nice, functions great
[09:56] <Belutz> mortal_, i'll take a look
[09:56] <Blissex> luite: depends... Look at the reviews and graphs though.
[09:57] <Nvidiot> <- from The Netherlands, moved to Australia :)
[09:57] <ProN00b> ubuntu is using xorg and not xfree, right ?
[09:57] <luite> Blissex: yup I will, but they only test with windows, right?
[09:57] <Nvidiot> ProN00b: correct
[09:57] <damo21> kbrooks: thats cool, so in theory all the packages should work... i havent done any nasty hacking only used apt-get packages :)
[09:57] <kbrooks> ProN00b: As of breezy
[09:57] <Blissex> Nvidiot: how is the IT job market in Australia nowadays...
[09:57] <funkyHat> kbrooks, i'm pretty sure hoary was on xorg too
[09:57] <z4ck> lol
[09:57] <Blissex> luite: yes, but the NBIDIA driver under Linux is the same as under MS Windows with some slightly different glue code.
[09:57] <SaintXaero> could someone help a noob for a sec?
[09:57] <Nvidiot> Blissex: it's *supposed* to be good, but I can't find a halfdecent admin job to do on the side (I'm studying for my masters computer science in networking/security at the moment)
[09:57] <z4ck> he uses degree to make a website selling boomrangs
[09:58] <kbrooks> funkyHat: are you sure the wiki said that in breezy xfree86 -> xorg?
[09:58] <bloodnik> Anyone help me fix this? libavcodeccvs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[09:58] <damo21> haha
[09:58] <Nvidiot> Ask a SPECIFIC question, IF anyone CAN help, they will. Be patient, remember that your mother does not live here and you are responsible for your own mess. While you are waiting USE GOOGLE!
[09:58] <Nvidiot> ;)
[09:58] <bloodnik> there are four such dependeny problems.
[09:58] <Blissex> luite: various tests show that the NVIDIA driver under Linux is about the same speed as under MS Windows... so don't worry.
[09:58] <SaintXaero> what driver should i use for my nvidia card?
[09:58] <Belutz> mortal_, it looks fine, but i suggest, you uncomment the breezy-security universe, make an apt-get update and search again for build-essential
[09:58] <funkyHat> kbrooks, no, not sure, i just remember always being on xorg
[09:58] <luite> Blissex: ok, tnx for all the tips :P I'll search toms hardware for the benchmarks for my games
[09:58] <ScatterBrain> Will the OpenOffice that ships with Breezy be 2.0? or a late beta like 1,9.9?
[09:58] <mortal_> k
[09:58] <Blissex> luite: or XbitLabs too
[09:58] <ProN00b> xorg-x11-devel, does someone know what the ubuntu package name for that is ?
[09:58] <luite> ok that too :)
[09:58] <Nvidiot> SaintXaero: the standard nv driver is fine for 2d work. If you want 3d accelleration, you'll have to install the nvidia binary driver
[09:59] <damo21> ProNOOb use synaptic to find it
[09:59] <funkyHat> ScatterBrain, currently it's a late beta, i don't know if 2 will be backported to breezy or not
[09:59] <Blissex> luite: wait a sec for some link, I did a web search yesterday. They might be useful to you...
[09:59] <atripathi> k Goodnite everyone......its 2 AM here
[09:59] <SaintXaero> i mean which do i download though? there are like 5
[09:59] <Blissex> luite: probably very useful actually -- there are some very nice NVIDIA tweaking utilities for Linux too.
[09:59] <SaintXaero> ia32?
[09:59] <Nvidiot> SaintXaero: don't manually install things. Use Synaptic
[09:59] <kbrooks> ScatterBrain: let me check
[10:00] <ScatterBrain> funkyHat: The backported OO.o in Hoary is 1.9.7, right?
[10:00] <SaintXaero> hm?
[10:00] <Blissex> luite: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-310871-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html
[10:00] <damo21> ive been screwing around with ati drivers... whats the best way to put things back the way dpkg made it when i installed
[10:00] <Nvidiot> SaintXaero: Synaptic is the package manager
[10:00] <Answer> !tell SaintXaero about synaptic
[10:00] <kbrooks> funkyHat: breezy is under a full freeze iirc
[10:00] <Nvidiot> SaintXaero: if you use that you can easily install and uninstall software :)
[10:00] <Blissex> luite: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=54095&highlight=nibitor
[10:00] <Blissex> luite: http://www.garrulous-geek.co.uk/nvtuner
[10:00] <Blissex> luite: http://home.comcast.net/~bnolsen/nvtuner.cc
[10:00] <SaintXaero> but liek...which download do i pick?
[10:00] <funkyHat> kbrooks, yes, that would make sense, but i wasn't sure as OOo is beta currently
[10:00] <damo21> how do i reconfigure xorg with ati-drivers?
[10:01] <[LethAL] > funkyHat, I beleive it's RC now
[10:01] <damo21> i want to use the proper way not editing conf files
[10:01] <mortal_> mortal@BadCyborg:/usr/src/linux-2.6.12.3$ sudo apt-cache search build-essentials
[10:01] <mortal_> mortal@BadCyborg:/usr/src/linux-2.6.12.3$
[10:01] <Answer> damo21: get fglrx
[10:01] <funkyHat> ScatterBrain, 1.9.129
[10:01] <Nvidiot> SaintXaero: again, do *not* go to www.nvidia.com to install the nvidia driver
[10:01] <SaintXaero> or at least, how do i fix my screen resolution?
[10:01] <funkyHat> yes, it is RC, as of yesterday
[10:01] <Answer> SaintXaero: fixres
[10:01] <SaintXaero> it won't let me like...ungay my resolution
[10:01] <funkyHat> bye bye brown
[10:02] <damo21> Answer: thanks
[10:02] <[LethAL] > I'm on brown :S
[10:02] <z4ck> damo21, download the ati propierty driver... after installing run fglrxconf in console
[10:02] <Blissex> BTW, if anybody has an NVIDIA 6800LE under Linux, the links above for <luite> might interest them too.
[10:02] <funkyHat> eh... so am i! lol
[10:02] <[LethAL] > lol... wtf
[10:02] <kbrooks> in breezy
[10:02] <kbrooks> ATTN
[10:02] <Blissex> luite: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74787&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
[10:02] <z4ck> id update your kernal before doing so
[10:02] <kbrooks> openoffice is 1.1.5
[10:02] <kbrooks> iirc
[10:02] <funkyHat> no, it's not
[10:02] <ProN00b> is it possible to have only one linux server and the users all connecting with thin x clients to it ?
[10:02] <mortal_> Belutz, I updated my sources.list, did sudo apt-get update
[10:03] <funkyHat> actually...
[10:03] <funkyHat> eh
[10:03] <[LethAL] > ProN00b, yes
[10:03] <mortal_> mortal@BadCyborg:/usr/src/linux-2.6.12.3$ sudo apt-cache search build-essentials
[10:03] <mortal_> mortal@BadCyborg:/usr/src/linux-2.6.12.3$
[10:03] <slak> hey
[10:03] <kbrooks> funkyHat: look in /usr/bin/openoffice
[10:03] <funkyHat> lol, i've been on OOo betas since before upgrading
[10:03] <slak> can somone help me
[10:03] <kbrooks> read it
[10:03] <[LethAL] > ProN00b, I don't really know anything about it
[10:03] <kbrooks> the script
[10:03] <Belutz> mortal_, build-essential not build-essentials
[10:03] <[LethAL] > slak, what's up
[10:03] <mortal_> o
[10:03] <Belutz> mortal_, without 's'
[10:03] <funkyHat> so the actual OOo package will still be a 1.1 version
[10:03] <funkyHat> :$
[10:03] <damo21> hmm... hang on... so i should 1) upgrade kernel  2) apt-get install fglrx ??
[10:03] <z4ck> bll getting food
[10:03] <slak> I NEED HELP WITH MY UBUNTU I INSTALLED IT AND ITS SAYING I'M MISSING LIBKENTUCKYFRIEDCHICKEN.SO.40 WHEN I TRY TO COMPILE
[10:03] <z4ck> yes
[10:04] <z4ck> dont do apt-get install fglrx
[10:04] <slak> GUESS THATS WHAT I GET FOR INSTALLING A NIGGER OPERATING SYSTEM
[10:04] <[LethAL] > STOP THE SHOUTING
[10:04] <z4ck> u want to goto ati.com
[10:04] <bloodnik> Anyone help me fix this? libavcodeccvs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[10:04] <kbrooks> slak: troll.
[10:04] <ScatterBrain> damo21: "apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"
[10:04] <SaintXaero> how do i make my resolution 1280x1024, it won't let mee:(
[10:04] <kbrooks> [LethAL] : dont feed the troll
[10:04] <slept>  /ignore slack
[10:04] <ProN00b> lol, slak
[10:04] <slak> SaintXaero: FIRST STEP INSTALL A REAL OS AND READ THE FUCKING MANUAL
[10:04] <[LethAL] > !lart slak
[10:04] <damo21> ati.com drivers are better? so i have to manually compile my kernel?
[10:04] <[LethAL] > No, lart it instead :d
[10:04] <sambagirl> slak is pure bigot
[10:04] <sambagirl> why younot kick him
[10:04] <funkyHat> !ops
[10:04] <ubotu> it has been said that ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[10:04] <kbrooks> [LethAL] : don't lart, not appropriate
[10:05] <[LethAL] > :-(
[10:05] <ScatterBrain> damo21: I didn't have too.
[10:05] <z4ck> slak, stupid racist
[10:05] <slak> NIGGER PLEASE
[10:05] <kbrooks> z4ck.
[10:05] <z4ck> slak, stupid racist
[10:05] <sambagirl> i made joke and was persicuted and now he ocme here and says these nastythings about people? why he is not banned?
[10:05] <bloodnik> SaintXaero, you've probably not set up xorg to support it. run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and you'll get to a list of resolutions
[10:05] <damo21> ok :D surely there is a ubuntu wiki on the latest ati drivers?
[10:05] <Seveas> slak has been banned before
[10:05] <Seveas> the creep
[10:05] <nalioth> z4ck: you should not feed the trolls
[10:05] <ProN00b> wah, i need xorg-x11-devel
[10:05] <damo21> !info ati wiki
[10:05] <Seveas> he's on my list of permbans now
[10:06] <sambagirl> thank you seveas
[10:06] <z4ck> lol nalioth
[10:06] <z4ck> i bet he all wants us to switch to " slackware"
[10:06] <z4ck> what a joke
[10:06] <Mustard5> :)
[10:06] <kbrooks> z4ck: slackware is another linux distro
[10:06] <bloodnik> nalioth, you asked me if I had backports.
[10:06] <ScatterBrain> ubotu: tell ScatterBrain about fglrx
[10:07] <Seveas> z4ck, please keep the coc in mind - cheering bans/feeding trolls is not done
[10:07] <z4ck> ubuntu has got to be the one of the best linux distros to date
[10:07] <nalioth> bloodnik: backports will keep you from cleanly upgrading/adding things
[10:07] <ScatterBrain> ubotu: tell damo21 about fglrx
[10:07] <bloodnik> Should I remove it then?
[10:07] <nalioth> bloodnik: that would help
[10:07] <bloodnik> OK
[10:07] <damo21> z4ck... NO WAY i am not using ati.com driver
[10:08] <z4ck> i didnt cheer.. i just called him a racist
[10:08] <nalioth> my apologies, slept
[10:08] <yaaar> anybody round here use bacula? i finally got it all configured and when i try to start it i get:
[10:08] <nalioth> z4ck: enough.
[10:08] <yaaar> Fatal error: Version error for database "bacula". Wanted 8, got 7
[10:08] <yaaar> i've tried dropping and rebuilding the db, as well as the update_mysql_tables script
[10:08] <slept> nalioth, thanks
[10:08] <damo21> i dont want to risk breaking ubuntu
[10:08] !lilo:*! Small split a few minutes ago, affected users, about 400
[10:08] <kbrooks> Hmmm.
[10:08] <nalioth> damo21: then only use official repos and backports sparingly (when needed)
[10:09] <mortal_> Belutz, thx, anything else i would need to compile a kernel (besides src)
[10:09] <mortal_> ?
[10:09] <damo21> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx is the official way?
[10:09] <nalioth> mortal_: "build-essental"
[10:09] <nalioth> mortal_: "build-essential"
[10:09] <ScatterBrain> damo21: YES!
[10:09] <Belutz> nalioth, he already installed that :)
[10:09] <Belutz> nalioth, anything else for him?
[10:10] <mortal_> heh
[10:10] <Seveas> mortal_, the source, a compiler and gmake is enough
[10:10] <Seveas> kernel cannot have library requirements
[10:10] <mortal_> i just tried make menuconfig and it didn't work
[10:10] <Seveas> that's not compiling ;)
[10:10] <damo21> LOL ubuntu didnt ship standard with gcc
[10:10] <Seveas> damo21, yes it does
[10:10] <Seveas> it's just not installed by default
[10:10] <damo21> i had to select it as a package in breezy
[10:10] <damo21> :D
[10:11] <Seveas> mortal_, libncurses-dev oslt
[10:11] <z4ck> damo21, yea that was the first things i installed
[10:11] <Seveas> damo21, so?
[10:11] <mortal_> O right! curses
[10:11] <kbrooks> damo21: ship != install
[10:11] <damo21> i got a shock thats all when i tried to compile something
[10:11] <mortal_> what's oslt?
[10:11] <damo21> :P
[10:11] <Seveas> !oslt
[10:11] <ubotu> Seveas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:11] <kbrooks> damo21: ubuntu ships with the gcc *package*
[10:11] <Seveas> !oslt is or something like that
[10:11] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[10:11] <kbrooks> it does not *install* the gcc package
[10:11] <funkyHat> :/
[10:12] <z4ck> its on the cd
[10:12] <ProN00b> omg, what do they mean with SDL ?
[10:12] <damo21> okay okay i just thought it should install the gcc package by default
[10:12] <bloodnik> nalioth, the same packages are trying to install the wrong ones still :(
[10:12] <funkyHat> hahaha
[10:12] <ProN00b> its suposed to be a package name
[10:12] <nalioth> bloodnik: type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[10:12] <kbrooks> not necessary for desktop installs, damo21.
[10:12] <bloodnik> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[10:12] <Nvidiot> no compiler is a smart thing to do security-wise
[10:12] <Enz> hey im having difficulty installing java-package, dpkg error processing package
[10:12] <damo21> okay :D
[10:12] <bloodnik> I already tried upgrade and dist-upgrade
[10:13] <bloodnik> It keeps them back.
[10:13] <kbrooks> installing a compiler that is
[10:13] <Nvidiot> will slow an attacker down because he can't use the compiler to compile his favorite tool
[10:13] <damo21> haha
[10:13] <nalioth> bloodnik: hoary or breezy?
[10:13] <bloodnik> hoary
[10:13] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: true
[10:13] <Nvidiot> not to mention it'll prevent the average user from compiling programs instead of using apt/synaptic
[10:13] <nalioth> bloodnik: then i'm lost. what pkg are you trying to install?
[10:14] <bloodnik> libavcodeccvs, for transcode
[10:14] <damo21> Nvidiot, u are right, its not too hard to install the package after
[10:14] <damo21> :D
[10:14] <damo21> ubuntu is the best :D
[10:14] <Dreamglider> now i have a ubuntu ISO here,  Ubuntu-6.04-DVD-i386.iso when i try to install ubuntu from it i get tons of errors(i dont remember them) how can i check the iso against a md5 checksum file ?
[10:14] <ProN00b> nooooo
[10:15] <nalioth> bloodnik: build them from source, using apt
[10:15] <Nvidiot> Dreamglider: md5sum blah.iso and compare with the md5sum that it should be
[10:15] <Mustard5> 6.04?
[10:15] <bloodnik> How do I do that? :o
[10:15] <Nvidiot> probably a typo for 5.04
[10:15] <Mustard5> k
[10:15] <Mustard5> thought I was missing out :D
[10:15] <silent_scream> when I try to download iget that error message:
[10:15] <silent_scream> XML parsing error
[10:15] <silent_scream> Location: chrome://mozzapps/content/download/downloads.xul
[10:15] <silent_scream> Linenumber 1, column 1:
[10:15] <silent_scream> .Value, "FileExtensions") + ")";
[10:15] <silent_scream> ^
[10:15] <Dreamglider> that s the name of the file 6.04
[10:15] <[LethAL] > No pasting
[10:15] <silent_scream> what should I do?
[10:16] <Seveas> silent_scream, you should learn how to behave on IRC
[10:16] <damo21> man, ive been so excited with ubuntu i havent slept for a week
[10:16] <silent_scream> ok
[10:16] <damo21> rofl
[10:16] <mortal_> Nvidiot, walago you said *don't* install the nvidia package from nvidia.com, why not?
[10:16] <Nvidiot> mortal_: because it's in the package management system
[10:16] <silent_scream> sorry, the second thing
[10:16] <Seveas> and just retry the download a few times, happened to me last week and retrting solved it
[10:16] <mortal_> Nvidiot, ah i see
[10:16] <nalioth> silent_scream: do not paste in here, please. read the /topic
[10:16] <Mustard5> there is a seperate section for pasting, so it doesnt appear on everyones screen here, silent_scream
[10:16] <Nvidiot> that's a *LOT* easier to manage than downloading it, messing with kernel headers, compiling etc
[10:17] <Dreamglider> how do i check the iso with the md5 thing ?
[10:17] <mortal_> last time I tried the nvidia-glx driver, I was sadly dissapointed with it's performance
[10:17] <Seveas> md5sum -c filename.iso
[10:17] <silent_scream> well ok http://pastebin.com/383088
[10:18] <Seveas> and just retry the download a few times, happened to me last week and retrting solved it <-- silent_scream
[10:18] <Dreamglider> i m on WinXP atm dos does not know the md5sum command
[10:18] <Seveas> then get an md5sum utility from download.com
[10:18] <damo21> Dreamglider download winmd5sum
[10:18] <bloodnik> nalioth, how do I use apt to build from source?
[10:19] <Seveas> bloodnik, apt-get -b source $packagename
[10:19] <bloodnik> I already tried getting a tarball but it had compilation errors.
[10:19] <deFrysk> bloodnik, apt-get source -b package
[10:19] <bloodnik> oh, thanks :)
[10:19] <pir> Is there any log of this channel (and for irc in general)..?
[10:19] <silent_scream> Seveas,  i retried it many times nothing happened, that was caused by an updating!
[10:19] <deFrysk> bloodnik, first apt-get build dep package
[10:20] <Seveas> silent_scream, close firefox, restart it...
[10:21] <damo21> how does ogg compare with mp3 in size?
[10:21] <Dreamglider> where do i get a md5sum for Ubuntu 6.04 ?
[10:21] <nalioth> bloodnik: b4 you do what Seveas said, do a "sudo apt-get build-dep $packagename"
[10:21] <nalioth> Dreamglider: there is no such thing
[10:21] <deFrysk> ogg = smaller when quality is same
[10:21] <deFrysk> about 10 percent I think
[10:21] <damo21> but how come i did mp32ogg and it came bigger
[10:21] <Enquest> hello, I got a second harddisk (slave) in my computer... How do I mount this second hardisk wich has EXT3 partition on it?
[10:21] <Dreamglider> where do i get a md5sum for Ubuntu 5.04.ISO sorry
[10:22] <Jowi> hi all
[10:22] <deFrysk> damo21, check the compressionrate
[10:22] <mortal_> anyone have an audigy sound card?
[10:22] <nalioth> Dreamglider: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[10:22] <silent_scream> thanx every one
[10:22] <slept> Enquest, mount /dev/hd.. /mnt use tabcompletion
[10:22] <Mustard5> is audigy the same as any soundblaster card?
[10:22] <damo21> i would like to convert my mp3s to ogg because its open source codec
[10:23] <deFrysk> damo21, converting from mp3 to ogg gives some more quality loss so I would not do it
[10:23] <mortal_> damo21, don't waste your time, you'll loose serious quality
[10:23] <slept> damo21, that will make bad quality
[10:23] <damo21> ok
[10:23] <silwol> good evening
[10:23] <mortal_> Mustard5, yeah, it's a sb audigy
[10:23] <Enquest> slept, but how do I now wich HD it is?
[10:23] <oO_will_Oo> Will changing my repositories to the Breezy Badger repositories make Ubuntu update GNOME to v2.12 also?
[10:23] <Mustard5> I'm using soundblaster
[10:24] <nalioth> oO_will_Oo: yes
[10:24] <deFrysk> damo21, yust rip your audio cd's to ogg its good quality then :)
[10:24] <[LethAL] > If you ask it to upgrade, yes
[10:24] <oO_will_Oo> thanks
[10:24] <damo21> audio cds? who has those?
[10:24] <slept> Enquest, use tab to find out hdb.. or hdd..
[10:24] <damo21> :)
[10:24] <silwol> can somebody tell me if i can use the scanning function of the hp psc 1110 in breezy?
[10:24] <deFrysk> damo21, tsk! ;p
[10:24] <mortal_> damo21, ppl that buy music?
[10:24] <mortal_> :p
[10:24] <damo21> mine are all lost!
[10:24] <Mustard5> to my tone deaf ear...there is no difference to the quality when converting from mp3 to ogg :D
[10:24] <damo21> i cant find them
[10:24] <Enquest> slept wich one ? hda   hda1  hda2  hda5  hda6  hda7  hdb   hdb1  hdb2  hdb5  hdc   hdd
[10:24] <damo21> hehe
[10:24] <Jowi> btw, anyone been able to reach gmail? (weblogin and pop times out - smtp seem ok.)
[10:24] <deFrysk> damo21, mine too but i backed them up luckily
[10:24] <damo21> rofl
[10:25] <Enquest> And how do I permently mount such a thing to my filesystem
[10:25] <mortal_> ogg does have crisper sound quality imho
[10:25] <damo21> really?
[10:25] <mortal_> yes
[10:25] <slept> Enquest, just try . add a line to /etc/fstab
[10:25] <nalioth> ogg and mp3 comparisons in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[10:25] <mortal_> hehe
[10:26] <mortal_> nalioth, ok, on topic, I can't seem to get my sb audigy working
[10:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mortal_ about sound
[10:26] <damo21> timidity is very good i can make my own music with soundfont synthesis direct to ogg
[10:27] <kennethlove> is there any way, using Gnome's Disks utility, to make a disk permenantly accessible? or do i need to edit fstab?
[10:28] <Mustard5> edit fstab
[10:28] <kennethlove> figured. thanks.
[10:28] <damo21> i am guessing it should be possible
[10:28] <damo21> without editing text files
[10:29] <damo21> most things are configurable in gnome guis
[10:29] <damo21> :)
[10:29] <slept> damo21, when you get used to edit files , you don't want to do it an other way :) or thats why I hate yast
[10:30] <damo21> yeah there is still the beauty of vi
[10:30] <damo21> :D
[10:30] <kennethlove> i don't have any problems with editing the fstab myself. just figured it could be done through the GUI if they offer that much already.
[10:30] <BlankB> vi? think sed.
[10:31] <kbrooks> kennethlove: no way
[10:31] <deFrysk> nano peeps , nano
[10:31] <damo21> lol edit fstab with sed??
[10:31] <slept> joe
[10:31] <damo21> omg
[10:31] <deFrysk> :D
[10:31] <kennethlove> i figured i'd just use this magnetized needle i keep tucked behind my ear.
[10:32] <damo21> hehe
[10:32] <Nvidiot> oh come on, use edlin!
[10:32] <damo21> flip the required magnets on the hdd track surface
[10:32] <deFrysk> !tell emile about sudo
[10:33] <basti__> How can I make a program run when I login to X, for example gdesklets ?
[10:33] <kennethlove> damo21: yeah, that's the idea. :)
[10:33] <nalioth> basti__: system > prefs > sessions
[10:33] <damo21> u could do it in C with interrupt 13
[10:33] <damo21> lol
[10:34] <basti__> thank you nalioth !!
[10:34] <damo21> hmm u could just write your own kernel in C:    _main { ........
[10:37] <slept> anyone wants to play trivia ?
[10:38] <cake-fork> Hi. My Hoary broke on an update (kernel panics on boot) so I updated the kernel, initrd-tools, linux-restricted-modules and dependencies to breezy. Now it boots but modprobe can't find the nvidia module. How do I fix it?
[10:38] <nalioth> slept: in #ubuntu-offtopic all day long
[10:38] <pir> IS there any archive of this channel?
[10:39] <nalioth> pir: read the /topic
[10:41] <schimmi> anybody here who have tried acpi suspend on Acer TM800?
[10:42] <Mustard5> schimmi, nope
[10:42] <Mustard5> not i
[10:42] <ReleaseX> if i install the prerelease of breezy, what are the differences (how hard is it to upgrade) to the full release when it comes out
[10:43] <deFrysk> ReleaseX, easy , just update regurarly
[10:43] <deFrysk> no differences
[10:43] <gilligan_> ReleaseX: you should be fixed by just running some apt upgrades
[10:43] <Mustard5> Without seeing a full release I think that would be hard to predict, just my thoughts
[10:44] <etnoy> am I the only one who feels that he gets a complete new xorg tree every other day on breezy?
[10:44] <jcurry> I am using the web-based chat program in Moodle, (an FOSS e-learning tool) and there is a "beep" option to sort of ping another chat member...but every time i am "beeped", i do not hear the actual wav file played, i just get the plugin bar, which fails to find any plugins to handle x-audio/wave...what do i do to fix it
[10:44] <jcurry> (I am using firefox)
[10:44] <deFrysk> etnoy, they hope to get to updatenr 100 before stable release
[10:44] <etnoy> I update it regularly, and the updates are really coming in fast, but almost every time I get 20+ xorg packages to update
[10:44] <Jondo> Hi, whenever I try to use setxkbmap I get "Error loading new keyboard description"
[10:45] <oO_will_Oo> ReleaseX: if you update to Breezy by modifying your repositories, it should automatically upgrade to the full release
[10:45] <etnoy> deFrysk: probably :)
[10:45] <deFrysk> etnoy, xorg has been modularised thats why there are so many
[10:45] <Jondo> etnoy: Thats because all the xorg servers parts are split now for some reason
[10:45] <Mustard5> jcurry, you using 5.04?
[10:45] <Jondo> etnoy: I think maybe they're preparing for something like kdrive?
[10:45] <deFrysk> Jondo, its easyer to maintain that way
[10:46] <Jondo> ah
[10:46] <etnoy> Jondo: I know that xorg is modular, but I get a new version almost every time I update
[10:46] <Mustard5> jcurry, I'm assuming you haven't tried some of the How-To's on the forum concerning setting up firefox to work with flash and stuff?
[10:46] <etnoy> that's what I wondered about
[10:46] <Maikeru> neone know the official release date of Breezy?
[10:46] <Jondo> etnoy: They're working out bugs
[10:46] <JairunCaloth> I can't get my windows slave drive to mount
[10:46] <etnoy> Maikeru: 13th I think
[10:47] <deFrysk> etnoy, importand package so its importand to eradicate all bugs
[10:47] <Maikeru> NOOOO
[10:47] <Jondo> Does anyone else have issues with setxkbmap and Breezy?
[10:47] <Maikeru> If it was one day later
[10:47] <Maikeru> it'd be on my bday
[10:47] <etnoy> Jondo: Sure, a lot of QA to do
[10:47] <oO_will_Oo> It is
[10:47] <oO_will_Oo> 14th
[10:47] <etnoy> Maikeru: haha
[10:47] <Maikeru> Shut up will
[10:47] <Maikeru> no one likes you
[10:47] <Maikeru> :P
[10:47] <oO_will_Oo> oh, sorry
[10:47] <oO_will_Oo> 13th
[10:47] <mortal_> is anyone here running on a vanila kernel?
[10:47] <etnoy> deFrysk: that's for sure.
[10:47] <Maikeru> btw: answer my IM>
[10:48] <kennethlove> your mother
[10:48] <etnoy> good, now that I know APT is kidding me :P
[10:48] <etnoy> I can tell they are working hard, I get really, really many updates today
[10:48] <nalioth> gentlemen, take the violence to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:48] <Jondo> mortal_: 2.6.12.5 from kernel.org
[10:48] <etnoy> takes ages just to downlad
[10:48] <Jondo> etnoy
[10:48] <mortal_> Jondo, anything major break on you in ubuntu?
[10:49] <Jondo> I get 1.5mb/s :)
[10:49] <etnoy> Jondo: yes?
[10:49] <etnoy> haha
[10:49] <Jondo> mortal_: Other than my keyboard map switching, no
[10:49] <Jondo> mortal_: But that's fairly annoying, as I really need to switch to German keymapping
[10:49] <etnoy> mm, the mirrors seem quite slow here. my max. speed is 800KiB, but now I'm at 25 :(
[10:50] <etnoy> and I'm using the swedish archive mirror
[10:50] <[LethAL] > etnoy, jump to one in a close country?
[10:50] <Jondo> etnoy: I'm using the one in France, and I'm located in Germany
[10:50] <Nvidiot> the iinet mirror is extremely fast if you're on iinet adsl2 :D
[10:50] <etnoy> Jondo: are there reliable unofficial mirrors?
[10:51] <gilligan_> hm.. having some problems with libmp4v2-0 .. anyone experienced that aswell ? its trying to overwrite a library from other package
[10:51] <etnoy> I think I'd like to try one
[10:51] <Jondo> etnoy: I don't know of any.
[10:51] <jcurry> Mustard5: yes, i am using 5.04, but i'll take a look at the faqs
[10:51] <etnoy> Jondo: ok
[10:51] <AngryParsley> hey, I got gnupod working with my ipod
[10:51] <AngryParsley> and I uninstalled gtkpod and threw my backed up songs on my ipod
[10:51] <Mustard5> jcurry, yeah...I would think the same issues that stop flash sounds playing will be related to why other sounds aren't working in firefox..just a guess :)
[10:51] <etnoy> Has anyone of you got scsi-emul to work to enable fast cd ripping?
[10:51] <etnoy> on breezy or hoary
[10:52] <slept> Jondo,  loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz
[10:52] <etnoy> I don't, even though I've done it before (in gentoo)
[10:52] <AngryParsley> gnupod was able to rebuild the database, but I lost my ratings and playcounts :(
[10:52] <FarrisG> Are there any tools for setting up an external monitor on a laptop? For instance, I installed 5.10 on my notebook, and everything worked fine at the screen's detected native resolution, but when I plug in a CRT, the normal resolution is not ideal. Anything capable of changing this on the fly so that it's in native when I'm using the LCD, but in some higher resolution when using the crt?
[10:52] <deFrysk> etnoy, not needed with 2.6x kernels
[10:52] <etnoy> deFrysk: for audio cd ripping it is
[10:52] <etnoy> wish it wasn't
[10:52] <deFrysk> etnoy, how so ?
[10:52] <deFrysk> never use it
[10:53] <oO_will_Oo> FarrisG: System >> Preferences >> Screen Resolution
[10:53] <AngryParsley> why would you need it for ripping? you can read CDs just fine without SCSI emulation
[10:53] <etnoy> deFrysk: well, I'm not sure of how, but you get about 5-10x speed increase in cdparanoia
[10:53] <etnoy> AngryParsley: yeah, but at a weird slow rate
[10:53] <etnoy> and it is more error-prone
[10:53] <etnoy> at least on forums.gentoo.org that is an established fact, and I can tell that it works
[10:53] <AngryParsley> I'm going to take the pepsi challege here and try ripping a CD
[10:53] <etnoy> tried it myself
[10:53] <Answer> hey why am I +e ?
[10:53] <deFrysk> etnoy, sorry havnt touched scsi-emu since my last 2.4x kernel
[10:54] <etnoy> slow cd ripping is one of the bigger problems for my friend who's new to ubuntu
[10:54] <Answer> Question:  I want to ssh to a remote computer and then view a webpage on that network thru the ssh tunnel, is it possible?
[10:54] <etnoy> he's got tons of cd's
[10:54] <AngryParsley> lol, my pete yorn disc has a bunch of stuff that autoruns on windows machines
[10:54] <etnoy> deFrysk: okay
[10:54] <Jondo> slept: Hmm. Will that work in X?
[10:54] <slept> etnoy, use abcde
[10:54] <Mustard5> Answer, I've heard of it being done
[10:54] <etnoy> slept: cdparanoia is the same :)
[10:55] <etnoy> abcde _uses_ cdparanoia FYI
[10:55] <etnoy> abcde is nice, my fav app
[10:55] <slept> Jondo, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg select the right keyboard layout
[10:55] <etnoy> but I need sound-juicer to work too, just because (and because my friend uses it)
[10:56] <flodine> guys how long will i be able to run 5.04
[10:56] <etnoy> flodine: at least 12 months from now
[10:56] <oO_will_Oo> it's supported for 12 months more
[10:56] <etnoy> flodine: ubuntu supports each release at least 18 months from release
[10:56] <slept> flodine, till you break or remove it
[10:57] <Answer> until thermonuclear meltdown shuts off all the electricity... but then you could still get a generator
[10:57] <etnoy> flodine: and you don't need to update to breezy if you don't want
[10:57] <etnoy> Answer: or a mouse in a wheel
[10:57] <flodine> im on breezy now about to try debian sarge
[10:57] <etnoy> or a rack of 100+ mice
[10:57] <inc|freaky> hi all im trying to start cups but it says: start-stop-daemon: Unable to open pidfile `/var/run/cups/cupsd.pid' for writing: Permission denied (Permission denied)
[10:58] <autoprime> i just burned the power pc version of the live cd.. anyone know why it wont boot?
[10:58] <etnoy> inc|freaky: using sudo?
[10:58] <oO_will_Oo> inc|freaky: are you root?
[10:58] <inc|freaky> oops it worked :D
[10:58] <Jondo> autoprime: Have you put the cd in the drive? Is the power cord plugged in?
[10:58] <inc|freaky> thx ^^
[10:59] <autoprime> hehe yes... and cd drive is set to boot b4 hdd
[10:59] <etnoy> inc|freaky: is the printer on fire?
[10:59] <etnoy> :D
[10:59] <autoprime> its not reading as a bootable iso
[10:59] <Maikeru> <3 Bastille
[10:59] <ompaul> autoprime, did you check the file md5sum before your burnt it? {I don't do ppc, standard question }
[10:59] <autoprime> no i havent.. ill try that. i shouldve triedthat. thx
[11:00] <ompaul> autoprime, not knowing your software, did you burn a file or burn an image?
[11:00] <inc|freaky> etnoy: no :)
[11:00] <autoprime> burn the image
[11:00] <inc|freaky> but i still cant print
[11:00] <AngryParsley> hmm, ripping is slow
[11:00] <AngryParsley> in fact sound juicer isn't responding
[11:00] <jcurry> I ahve flash working, but wav files are not being played by firefox....i get the plugin bar, but it cannot find any plugins
[11:01] <ompaul> !tell jcurry about flash
[11:01] <etnoy> AngryParsley: yes, indeed it is
[11:01] <os2mac> ok so forgive this nood question from a solaris admin....
[11:01] <AngryParsley> estimated time left: unknown
[11:01] <etnoy> and seems like scsi-emul still is the only option for fast ripping
[11:01] <AngryParsley> wow, it's doing nothing
[11:01] <etnoy> yes, same here
[11:02] <os2mac> is there a way (like pkgadd) that allows you to add .deb pkgs from the local drive?
[11:02] <etnoy> last week it dislayed the reading speed
[11:02] <jcurry> ompaul: i *have* flash, and it works fine...i need wav files to play...
[11:02] <AngryParsley> and there is a 0 byte flac file of the first track
[11:02] <ompaul> AngryParsley, try grip, its what I use for that if you are having problems
[11:02] <gilligan_> os2mac: dpkg -i [file] 
[11:02] <AngryParsley> yeah, this program is about as useful as the emergency broadcast system
[11:02] <AngryParsley> (read: it's a test of my patience)
[11:03] <etnoy> brb, restart X server
[11:03] <gilligan_> AngryParsley: what program do you use for ripping?
[11:03] <AngryParsley> ompaul: does grip have a nice GUI?
[11:03] <AngryParsley> gilligan_: the default one for ubuntu
[11:03] <AngryParsley> sound juicer
[11:03] <ompaul> AngryParsley, its functional
[11:04] <ompaul> AngryParsley, hoary?
[11:04] <AngryParsley> no, breezy
[11:04] <gilligan_> AngryParsley: I usually use "abcde"
[11:05] <AngryParsley> I'll try grip out
[11:05] <sunsun> hi how do i set my sources.list to something akin to debian "testing"?
[11:05] <ompaul> jcurry, any other wav files play? andy other sound files play?
[11:05] <AbdulIsse> HI!
[11:05] <Dreamglider> is Ubuntu 5.10 stable and does one get suppert her on #ubuntu ?
[11:05] <barosl> does anyone know why development of DirectFB is slow?
[11:05] <gilligan_> AngryParsley: a simple command line tool that works just fine.. you just run abcde and it will start ripping your CD + fetch cddb infos
[11:05] <sunsun> firefox is messed up
[11:05] <AngryParsley> haha, they used the itunes radioactive icon
[11:06] <seethru> Dreamglider: yes 5.10 is stable
[11:06] <AngryParsley> ?
[11:06] <Dreamglider> and is it any good ?
[11:06] <AngryParsley> grip doesn't start
[11:06] <AbdulIsse> I have to admit, i never thought using Linux would be this good, i cant believe all the software and awesome everything is.
[11:06] <ompaul> AngryParsley, change CDs I have it working
[11:06] <AbdulIsse> Ubuntu 4 life!
[11:06] <drega> is anyone availiable to tell me how to create a boot disk for ubuntu?
[11:06] <seethru> AbdulIsse: welcome to the light side
[11:07] <Kyral> Welcome to the power of GNU
[11:07] <AngryParsley> and my load average just went through the roof
[11:07] <kennethlove> Dreamglider: works fine here.
[11:07] <Dreamglider> i mean good for a newbie ? :)
[11:07] <FarrisG> oO_will_Oo: That will only allow you to change resolution within the constraints of what has already been configured, which in the case of a laptop is native resolution only.
[11:07] <jcurry> ompaul: um....i can play sound, but not through firefox...it completely does not recognize x-audio/wave at all...how do i tell it howe to handle that?  about:plugins tells me i have mozplugger installed...but wave file are not listed
[11:07] <oO_will_Oo> ah
[11:07] <seethru> Dreamglider: as good, if not better, than hoary
[11:07] <inc|freaky> im trying to get printing to work. i get no error. KDE printers system settings says it cant restart cupsd as it cant find any running. but ps -aux shows cupsys   13726  1.4  0.1   6896  2020 ?        Ss   23:02   0:04 /usr/sbin/cupsd -F when i try lp somefile.txt it says: request id is deskjet_970c-4 (1 file(s)) its the 4rth thing im trying to print, so theres no error theres just no queue beeing
[11:07] <inc|freaky> processed - where is the error?
[11:07] <seethru> Dreamglider: even better hardware support IMO, my Audigy 2 ZS worked out of the box in Breezy, but not in Hoary
[11:07] <AbdulIsse> thank you seethru
[11:07] <AngryParsley> yeah, 6.23
[11:08] <drega> I've installed ubuntu to a usb disk and left the disk at home. i've restored the mbr with the windows cd but I'd like to e able to boot into ubuntu agian with out installing the boot loader.
[11:08] <Dreamglider> Allright well i better get that iso on disk then :)
[11:08] <x_o1> Anyone know how to configure the path that bluetooth uses to save files?  I cannot find the key in gconf, do I add it manully?
[11:08] <drega> whats the easiest way to install/create a boot disk?
[11:09] <AngryParsley> fuck, even kill -9 won't kill off grip
[11:09] <oO_will_Oo> drega: i would recommend jusat putting GAG onto a floppy
[11:09] <nalioth> AngryParsley: please watch your tongue
[11:09] <lsuactiafner> kill -9 -1 will.. along with everything else on the system heh
[11:09] <oO_will_Oo> *just
[11:09] <Amaranth> AngryParsley: It's 'Uninteruptible' (sp?)
[11:09] <fredforfaen> does gnome have a similar program as amarok?
[11:09] <drega> GAG?
[11:09] <AngryParsley> :(
[11:09] <ompaul> jcurry, have a look at edit preferences advanced - bottom corner - plugins<< that might have something to do with the problem
[11:09] <gilligan_> for newbies it's prolly a good idea to just wait a little bit.. breezy will soon be released..  upgrading now u might run into trouble that you cannot fix as newbie
[11:09] <Maikeru> http://gag.sf.net/
[11:09] <larsrohdin> hi, the program 'iptables' is installed by default by ubuntu right?  Is it activated by default? It is a sort of firewall right?
[11:09] <AngryParsley> bbl, I'm going to restart
[11:09] <[LethAL] > fredforfaen, rhythmbox
[11:09] <Amaranth> AngryParsley: The only solution is to wait for init to get rid of it (hours of waiting) or restarting.
[11:09] <fredforfaen> cool
[11:09] <[LethAL] > Not quite as good
[11:09] <ompaul> AngryParsley, no
[11:10] <fredforfaen> ille check it out
[11:10] <AngryParsley> ompaul: like Amaranth said, init will take forever to get rid of them
[11:10] <nalioth> larsrohdin: iptables is part of every linux, and by default in ubuntu does nothing overt
[11:10] <Amaranth> AngryParsley: I waiting 24 hours once, I think it might be a cron job.
[11:10] <AngryParsley> I'll go with the restarting
[11:11] <ompaul> AngryParsley, well - maybe but I would try killall grip and see what comes out of that
[11:11] <AngryParsley> ompaul: I also tried that, nothing
[11:11] <larsrohdin> nalioth, ok, how can I use it for securing my system? I use firestarter, but alot of people says that iptables is much better. is it?
[11:11] <ompaul> AngryParsley, init 6 then
[11:11] <AngryParsley> init 6?
[11:11] <ompaul> reboot
[11:11] <AngryParsley> oh, change to runlevel 6
[11:11] <ompaul> AngryParsley, :)
[11:11] <AngryParsley> well, I might as well update the kernel
[11:12] <drega> I'll give gag a shot thanks.
[11:12] <basti__> Could anyone tell me why shift+backspace kills my X and how I could remove this silly shortcut?
[11:12] <gilligan_> larsrohdin: without knowledge about networking you won't secure anything with iptables
[11:12] <basti__> restart* not kill
[11:12] <ompaul> basti__, it has been like that forever to prevent you from having to reboot if X freezes
[11:12] <jerryg> how do i open the fonts folder from breezy's nautillus ?
[11:12] <lsuactiafner> gilligan_ : iptables -I INPUT -j DROP
[11:12] <lsuactiafner> heh
[11:13] <floor_16> anyone know why I can ping, but can't get the browser to load webpages?
[11:13] <concept10> jerryg, try fonts:///
[11:13] <gilligan_> lsuactiafner: heh,right.. hooray for that firewall.. :)
[11:13] <jerryg> thank you concept
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> floor_16 : make sure you set the correct proxy and route to the gateway
[11:13] <basti__> ompaul, I thought it mas ctrl+alt+backspace.........
[11:13] <larsrohdin> gilligan_, well I have basic (a little more than basic) knowledgee about networks... How much do I need to know, and can't I learn something by using it?
[11:13] <ompaul> floor_16, by any chance do you have backports enabled in /etc/apt/source.list
[11:13] <oO_will_Oo> floor_16: could it be a dns server thingie?
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> gilligan_ : heh, i actually wrote a very nice firewall myself
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> well iptables ruleset
[11:14] <ompaul> basti__, ohh did not read :( sorry
[11:14] <AngryParsley> oh cool, all the copies of grip ended
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> or dns.. but ping does resolve also
[11:14] <basti__> -.-
[11:14] <`psych0> hi
[11:14] <AngryParsley> geoff@tiny:~$ ps ax | grep grip | wc -l
[11:14] <AngryParsley> 1
[11:14] <oO_will_Oo> but only if he pinged a URL in the first place
[11:14] <Maikeru> Will
[11:14] <`psych0> where are the .deb files stored *
[11:14] <AngryParsley> :)
[11:14] <`psych0> ?
[11:14] <Maikeru> no offense, but you're a dumbass
[11:14] <Maikeru> You get on AIM and then don't respond
[11:14] <gilligan_> larsrohdin: well i'd say u have to study iptables documents then
[11:14] <kacike> uga!
[11:15] <Maikeru> tomorrow at school I'll do the unbelievable
[11:15] <Maikeru> ...
[11:15] <Maikeru> I'LL BREAK YOUR STYLUS!
[11:15] <jcurry> ompaul: i looked at the plugins, wav is not listed there....how do i add it?
[11:15] <larsrohdin> gilligan_, ok, we'll see how it works out=)
[11:15] <oO_will_Oo> oh, i was gonna guess finish lunch soon
[11:15] <ompaul> jcurry, is there an add button? I have not looked
[11:15] <gilligan_> larsrohdin :-)
[11:15] <Maikeru> fu
[11:15] <Maikeru> :)
[11:15] <Mustard|Away> `psych0,  /var/cache/apt/archive
[11:15] <jcurry> ompaul: nope...
[11:16] <ompaul> !tell Maikeru about conduct
[11:16] <kacike> can anyone help me with mp3?
[11:16] <Maikeru> ompaul, I'm fine without being told about it
[11:16] <Maikeru> Thank you
[11:16] <floor_16> ompaul: I don't believe I have backports enabled. How would i tell in the file?
[11:16] <larsrohdin> gilligan_, except the man pages, do you know a good e.g. website about it?
[11:16] <P229> ubotu: tell kacike about mp3
[11:16] <basti__> !tell me about mp3
[11:17] <`psych0> Mustard|Away, thx and only a short question, how to unpack a deb file ?
[11:17] <Mustard|Away> ompaul, its entry would be uncommented if enabled
[11:17] <ompaul> floor_16,  grep backports /etc/apt/souces.list  <<  will give output if there is one
[11:17] <ompaul> Mustard|Away, should not be there unless added :)
[11:17] <Mustard|Away> `psych0, no idea :D
[11:17] <`psych0> LOL
[11:17] <propagandhi> 'psych0: u can use the deb2tar utility
[11:18] <floor_16> ompaul: no such luck.
[11:18] <propagandhi> db2targz i mean
[11:18] <ompaul> jcurry, let me look in a moment
[11:18] <gilligan_> larsrohdin: google for iptables.. you should find some big handbook somewhere i guess.. prolly a big howto somewhere on tldp.org
[11:18] <propagandhi> dammit i meant deb2targz
[11:18] <ompaul> floor_16, try starting it in a terminal and see if you get any clues why it is not starting
[11:18] <larsrohdin> gilligan_, ok thanks man
[11:19] <ghb> I'm having some problems installing a program: it keeps telling me I don't have permission. I've tried using sudo, but still gives the same error. =/
[11:19] <propagandhi> ghb: which program
[11:19] <ghb> propagandhi, Oh, hi again. =) MATLAB.
[11:19] <propagandhi> ahh Matlab, i havent installed that yet, you downloaded the package from somewhere?
[11:20] <ghb> propagandhi, No, I borrowed the CD from the uni.
[11:20] <propagandhi> ok, what format is the installer
[11:20] <ghb> Format...?
[11:20] <scribbles> how do I set gDesklets to open on boot?
[11:20] <propagandhi> is it a shell script, a deb file a source package?
[11:20] <ghb> Shell, I think.
[11:21] <propagandhi> it's .sh?
[11:21] <Jowi> scribbles: add them to your session manager in gnome
[11:21] <Ninjew> Does anybody have the 'evdev' driver working for xorg?
[11:21] <scribbles> session manager?
[11:21] <ghb> propagandhi, Yep.
[11:21] <propagandhi> ok, and you're just running it off the cd
[11:21] <ghb> propagandhi, Yep.
[11:21] <ompaul> floor_16, hoary or breezy?
[11:21] <Mustard5> scribbles, system>>preferences>>sessions
[11:21] <Jowi> scribbles: yep. sys->pref->sessions
[11:21] <propagandhi> have u tried copying the installer and files to a folder and installing from there?
[11:22] <scribbles> ahhh nice thx guys
[11:22] <ghb> propagandhi, Umm... no. I'll try that...
[11:22] <propagandhi> or copying to a folder and changing the permissions on the installer
[11:22] <ghb> propagandhi, How do I do that?
[11:22] <oO_will_Oo> chmod 777 foo.sh
[11:22] <Mustard5> ghb, with a chmod command
[11:22] <ghb> Mustard5, Ah, I've come across that command once or twice...
[11:23] <propagandhi> ghb: or you could chown <your username> /path-to-installer
[11:23] <Mustard5> ghb, type 'info chmod' to get more help
[11:23] <ghb> Mustard5, I'll do that.
[11:23] <propagandhi> some .sh files also need to have chmod +x but most dont
[11:23] <ghb> propagandhi, Even if it's on a cd?
[11:23] <propagandhi> ghb: no you need to copy to a folder
[11:23] <ghb> propagandhi, ok
[11:24] <felipe_> Hello, is there a debian package of MONO 1.1??
[11:24] <oO_will_Oo> ghb: does the installer run at all
[11:24] <propagandhi> cd's being read only and all
[11:24] <Mustard5> yeah..follow propagandhi :)
[11:24] <Mustard5> I'll butt out :D
[11:24] <ghb> propagandhi, righto.
[11:24] <Jowi> felipe_: no idea about the exact version...
[11:24] <Jowi> !info mono
[11:24] <ubotu> mono: (The Mono .NET development environment), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.0.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[11:24] <propagandhi> sorry Mustard5, i didnt mean to push over the top
[11:24] <Mustard5> np :D
[11:24] <grndslm> sooo....why is it that gdm won't work for me properly (just keeps going to human theme) after I just dist-upgraded to breezy?
[11:25] <felipe_> Jowi, thanks
[11:25] <Jowi> np
[11:25] <felipe_> i'll go with the standar intaller..
[11:25] <marz> If I am trying to mount a cue image file, how do I know where to mount it? (when I try /mnt/cdrom it says it doesn't exist)
[11:25] <felipe_> How can I see with gtk ver I have?
[11:26] <P229> kacike: stay in the channel, please
[11:26] <Mustard5> put -v option on the end ?
[11:26] <scribbles> is the Startup Command for gDesklets just "gDesklets"?
[11:26] <tahorg> marz: you need to make an iso first
[11:26] <marz> tahorg: I have downloaded a Linux game, I have the *.cue and *.bin files, I need to create something else too?
[11:26] <felipe_> !info java
[11:26] <tahorg> marz: apt-get install bchunk
[11:26] <ghb> propagandhi: Wow... I really don't hope it takes as long as Ubuntu estimates it too -- an hour. 0.o'
[11:26] <oO_will_Oo> scribbles: type 'gDesklets' in the console  to find out
[11:27] <os2mac> who ever gave me that tip thank you.....
[11:27] <marz> tahorg: thanks, I'll try that
[11:27] <grndslm> sooo....why is it that gdm won't work for me properly (just keeps going to human theme) after I just dist-upgraded to breezy?
[11:27] <felipe_> !info Java
[11:27] <erisco> how the hell do i register?
[11:27] <tahorg> marz: with bchunk, you transform you bin/cue -> iso
[11:27] <Jowi> !java
[11:27] <ubotu> methinks java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[11:27] <felipe_> thanks
[11:27] <marz> tahorg: Oh ok, cool, thanks a lot
[11:27] <grndslm> erisco, type /msg nickserv register [password] 
[11:27] <tahorg> marz: then mount -o loop -t iso9660 bla.iso /mnt/thing
[11:27] <propagandhi> ghb: some installers can take that long, to extract etc
[11:27] <scribbles> ah its gdesklets
[11:27] <Jowi> felipe_: use !info when queriying for a specific package. for general info use !subject
[11:28] <propagandhi> but it is a long time, how big is the matlab installer
[11:28] <Mustard5> !flash
[11:28] <ubotu> flash is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:28] <erisco> ah here we are
[11:28] <Belutz> :)
[11:28] <oO_Will_Oo-> arrgh
[11:28] <ompaul> jcurry, when you right click on that file type in the browser what does it offer as the way to deal with the file?
[11:28] <marz> tahorg: thanks a lot man, later
[11:28] <Will-> arrgh!
[11:29] <os2mac> clear
[11:29] <erisco> hello, i recently tried a couple new updates for firefox and it corrupted my shortcuts somehow. When I put firefox into my command line it boots fine, but my desktop shortcuts do not function properly. Both the new updates failed to updates so I am blaming them.
[11:29] <grndslm> can somebody help me fing out why after dist-upgrading gdm won't display anything other than the default human theme??
[11:30] <grndslm> *find
[11:30] <erisco> my question, what do I do to fix this?
[11:30] <ghb> propagandhi: Yeah, but this is just to copy the content of the CD to the harddrive. =(
[11:30] <hans0lo> erisco: try: update-menus
[11:30] <propagandhi> ghb:oh i see, it's not a DVD?
[11:30] <P229> grndslm: that sucks
[11:30] <grndslm> P229, thanks for the help
[11:31] <hans0lo> erisco: as your current user, not as root
[11:31] <P229> grndslm: are the other themes still installed/
[11:31] <grndslm> yup
[11:31] <ghb> propagandhi: the reader is a DVD-ROM, but the CD is just a regular one.
[11:31] <Jowi> erisco: all my shortcuts for firefox points to x-www-browser. so I just use that one instead. seems to work fine nomatter how many upgrades i do.
[11:31] <hans0lo> erisco: ok, thats as far as I can help then. I'm debian user. I'm in the wrong channel! hehe
[11:31] <Navatiu> hi all
[11:31] <cake-fork> why is there no nvidia.ko in linux-restriced-modules-2.6.12* ?
[11:31] <propagandhi> ghb: ok, well that sounds like a long time to copy the contents of a cd, but you never know
[11:31] <P229> grndslm: I've never run into that issue, but you might want to make sure the latest themes are installed. you might also try reinstalling the themes, in case the file permissions got mucked up somehow
[11:32] <ghb> propagandhi: Hm.. Oh well -- just have to wait and see...
[11:32] <Mustard5> gbh. must be a big game :)
[11:32] <grndslm> P229, i just reinstalled one, and it won't work...still says something about gdm not being configed properly
[11:32] <propagandhi> he he game
[11:32] <ghb> Mustard5: It's not a game. =)
[11:32] <Mustard5> ah k
[11:32] <floor_16> hey all, I'm wanting to add a new server to my synaptec that will extend ubuntu from just the universe and metaverse packages...anyone have a good link for doing this?
[11:32] <henryson> my bakcground is brown, and nautilus won't start
[11:32] <grndslm> P229, I guess I'll have to restart X to copy the error down
[11:32] <floor_16> er..synaptIc
[11:32] <jcurry> ompaul: it gives me the yellow "no plugin found" bar...
[11:33] <Mustard5> !backports
[11:33] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:33] <Mustard5> see that floor_16 ?
[11:33] <floor_16> mustard5: thanks :) will do
[11:33] <Mustard5> k ;)
[11:34] <ProN00b> is cedega == winex ?
[11:34] <nalioth> ProN00b: it's related, yes
[11:34] <ProN00b> how ?
[11:35] <henryson> Pronoob, cedega is "built" on winex, which started out from wine
[11:35] <ProN00b> ok, so why do people still use wine and not winex
[11:36] <Mustard5> wine is free?
[11:36] <ProN00b> and winex is ?
[11:36] <Navatiu> ii wonder
[11:36] <Mustard5> not?
[11:36] <Mustard5> I'm not sure :D
[11:36] <Mustard5> I know cedega costs money
[11:36] <Cashel> Are the breezy repositories down or did I break something?
[11:36] <henryson> wine is not prim. on 3d?
[11:37] <Mustard5> what do you mean by prim.?
[11:37] <propagandhi> http://torrentz.burn.myvnc.com:5454/
[11:37] <henryson> how do i start (eg reset) nautilus?
[11:38] <ProN00b> fucky bsd licenses
[11:38] <henryson> primerily, however it is spelled!
[11:38] <propagandhi> ProNOOb: ????
[11:38] <lorenzod> henryson: killall nautilus
[11:38] <ProN00b> i hope the wine developers are feeling the pain of dumbness, now transgaming is making all teh money with their code
[11:38] <lorenzod> ProN00b: What is your problem with the BSD license?
[11:39] <ProN00b> they suck
[11:39] <ProN00b> they allow stuff like cedega and osx
[11:39] <lorenzod> ProN00b: I'm sure they had their reasons for choosing the license they did.
[11:39] <ProN00b> big companys making money out of open source giving only back if they fell like it
[11:40] <ompaul> jcurry, the obvious is always harder
[11:40] <lorenzod> ProN00b: well, it's a matter of freedom.
[11:40] <Ninjew> Does anybody use the evdev x.org driver?
[11:40] <propagandhi> ProNOOb: even if products based on open source go commercial, theres plenty of benefits for the open source community at large
[11:40] <os2mac> whoot....
[11:40] <Mustard5> whats with the nickname Ninjew ?
[11:41] <Mustard5> you could try a nick that is less..ummm..controversial :)
[11:41] <nalioth> licensing issues in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:41] <ompaul> jcurry, got it
[11:42] <kennethlove> Mustard5: what if s/he's jewish?
[11:42] <Ninjew> Mustard5: I don't see how it is in any way controversial
[11:42] <nalioth> Mustard5: your mick is er pungent in nature, as well
[11:42] <Ninjew> Mustard5: p.s. I am jewish
[11:43] <Mustard5> :)
[11:43] <propagandhi> it seems to always be okay if someone is racist against themeselves
[11:43] <larsrohdin> If I would get the CVS version of cedega to work, could I play the same games as with the subscription version?
[11:43] <henryson> thanks lorenzod... kind of funny, to type killall nautilus and suddenly nautilus starts ... :P
[11:43] <propagandhi> larsrohdin: you wont be able to use the point2play service i believe
[11:44] <larsrohdin> propagandhi, and what is that?
[11:44] <propagandhi> but you can get a deb package of cedega free anyhow
[11:44] <lorenzod> henryson, nautilus restarts itself by default.
[11:44] <larsrohdin> propagandhi, is that easier than the cvs version?
[11:44] <propagandhi> i have cedega installed and i can execute it but point2play asks for a username and password for the transgaming service i think
[11:44] <lorenzod> But it is funny, in a reincarnation kinda way.
[11:44] <propagandhi> larsrohdin: its much easier to get installed yes
[11:45] <phasegen> Why can't you use point2play?
[11:45] <larsrohdin> where can I get my hands on that?
[11:45] <propagandhi> phasegen: i dont know why, it keeps asking me to enter the transgaming account password or whatever, so i just use cedega on its own
[11:45] <propagandhi> larrohdin: http://torrentz.burn.myvnc.com:5454/
[11:45] <ReleaseX> i'm trying to install smeg and it says i have unmet dependencies, python-xdg (>=.14) but 0.9.1 is to be installed
[11:46] <phasegen> did you have a transgamer accout?
[11:46] <propagandhi> nope
[11:46] <phasegen> that's why...
[11:46] <propagandhi> thats what i was saying
[11:46] <phasegen> $54 american a year
[11:46] <larsrohdin> propagandhi, but what exactly is point2play? what can I do with/without it?
[11:46] <seethru> propagandhi: you pirate you!
[11:47] <ompaul> jcurry, what you need to do is find a .wav file and try to open it in your browser, it should then offer you a list of exiting tools or to down load the file :) so you can choose whatever player you want
[11:47] <seethru> phasegen: IMO it should be free, only reason I paid is because I NEED cedega...once Wine is caught up they won't be getting money from me anymore
[11:47] <Mustard5> I should have been watching ompaul and jcurry...hehe I havent set sound up in my browser yet either
[11:48] <propagandhi> larsrohdin: you can still run cedega and get it to attempt to install games, such as from a cd or downloaded installer. No guarantees it'll always work. Theres a list of games available that work okay etc to be found on the transgaming site i believe
[11:48] <ompaul> Mustard5, there was nothing else that was the clue
[11:48] <propagandhi> and there might be somegames on the link i sent you, but thats just speculation ;)
[11:48] <larsrohdin> propagandhi, the webpage you showed, I don't find it
[11:48] <Mustard5> I couldn't even find the 'plugin' part in my preferences in the advanced tab
[11:48] <jcurry> ompaul: thanks!
[11:48] <seethru> larsrohdin: http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Category:Working
[11:48] <propagandhi> http://torrentz.burn.myvnc.com:5454/torrents.php
[11:48] <jcurry> Mustard5 :)
[11:48] <ompaul> jcurry, np
[11:49] <propagandhi> i'm on the site now
[11:49] <toran> how can I add WMA support to juk and/or other audio players?
[11:49] <propagandhi> you can also get there by just typing tuxwarez in firefox and it will resolve
[11:50] <Mustard5> hey jcurry, you can write the HOW-TO for me in the forums hey?  ehheheheh...just kidding :D
[11:50] <Dreamglider> ok i have installed Ubuntu 5.10 but when i bootupi get a "Error 12" i never get a boot loader up!
[11:50] <GDorn> okay, why doesn't alsa work?
[11:51] <propagandhi> Dreamglider: heres a really helpful description of error 12 as seen on the gentoo documentation ---
[11:51] <propagandhi> his error is returned if the device strings syntax is correct but other than that, an error occurred that isn't defined by any other error.
[11:52] <propagandhi> *this
[11:52] <seethru> lol
[11:52] <seethru> Dreamglider: silly question, but you installed grub?
[11:52] <Dreamglider> i have Fedora Core 4 and WindowsXP Pro on Primary Master and Ubuntu on Primary slave
[11:52] <ReleaseX> i'm trying to install smeg and it says i have unmet dependencies, python-xdg (>=.14) but 0.9.1 is to be installed
[11:52] <propagandhi> Dreamglider: and you installed ubuntu last
[11:52] <larsrohdin> propagandhi, ok im downloading cedega_4.4.1-1_i386.deb... what then? sudo dpkg -i package?
[11:52] <Dreamglider> propagandhi, yes
[11:53] <seethru> lars: yes
[11:53] <propagandhi> larsrohdin: thats correct
[11:53] <ngmlinux_> how can I change my boot loader menu?
[11:53] <propagandhi> Dreamglider: did you choose to install the boot loader
[11:53] <ngmlinux_> Windows disappeared
[11:53] <ngmlinux_> yes
[11:53] <Dreamglider> propagandhi, yes i did
[11:53] <ngmlinux_> everything was great until the kernel updated itself
[11:53] <propagandhi> ngmlinux_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:53] <larsrohdin> ok thanks... because I tried that cvs version once and almost died trying=)
[11:53] <ompaul> !tell ngmlinux_ about grub
[11:53] <seethru> Dream: but you can get into windows and fc?
[11:53] <propagandhi> larsrohdin: no prblems
[11:53] <jcurry> is there something i can spt-get so that firefox print normally, instead of giving me the postscript interpreter message?
[11:54] <GDorn> strike that.  now I have no sound at all.
[11:54] <ghb> How do I change the read speed on the DVD-ROM?
[11:54] <tristanmike> ReleaseX, you need to download the newer version of python-xdg
[11:54] <steve_> Hello friends, I messed around with my /etc/inittab and now X doesn't start by default.  Can someone PM me the readout of their inittab (preferably unmoded) so I can find and add the lines I removed.
[11:55] <propagandhi> ghb: is DMA enabled on the drive
[11:55] <Pickle_Weasel> i get this error when trying to install something in synaptic: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:55] <larsrohdin> propagandhi, It would be so sweet to be able to play at least some games in linux. but do I have to install them on my linux partitions or can I run from windows? with ntfs?
[11:55] <ghb> propagandhi: Dunno... I suppose so.
[11:55] <Blissex> Pickle_Weasel: you got to run it as 'root'
[11:55] <seethru> larsrohdin: best to install them either on a linux or FAT partition
[11:55] <Pickle_Weasel> well, i am in synaptic, so i'm obviously root
[11:55] <larsrohdin> seethru, thats what i thought...
[11:55] <Pickle_Weasel> unless, nvm, i think i know what the problem is
[11:55] <Seveas> steve_, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2769
[11:55] <propagandhi> ghb: hdparm /dev/hdX where X is the drive letter
[11:56] <basti__> Could anyone tell me why shift+backspace restarts my X and how I could remove this silly shortcut?
[11:56] <ompaul> steve_,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2770
[11:56] <Pickle_Weasel> i have someone ssh'ing to me, and they might have done a root command after i ran synaptic
[11:56] <WhiteRabbit> anyone use cedega?
[11:56] <Seveas> ompaul, beat ya :p
[11:56] <propagandhi> basti__: it is a useful shortcut sometimes hey
[11:56] <propagandhi> WhiteRabbit: yes i do
[11:56] <basti__> propagandhi, but its supposed to be trcl+alt+backspace !!!
[11:56] <ompaul> :)
[11:56] <propagandhi> ohh yeah true
[11:56] <steve_> Seveas & ompaul, that yous kindly.
[11:56] <steve_> That's exactly what I needed.
[11:56] <ghb> propagandhi: Nope, it isn't.
[11:56] <basti__> so u got any clue?
[11:57] <ghb> propagandhi: It's running over PIO now.
[11:57] <ReleaseX> tristanmike, how can i do that with apt
[11:57] <propagandhi> ghb: you could try enabling DMA
[11:57] <ghb> propagandhi: How do I do that?
[11:57] <Dreamglider> seetruh: i booted with UBCD and started WinPX with no problem
[11:57] <ghb> propagandhi: I don't think there's any settings for that in the BIOS.
[11:57] <GDorn> okay.  sound under ubuntu is really beginning to tick me off.
[11:57] <kangpeh> how do you change the system color...
[11:57] <kangpeh> from brown to like... black for instance
[11:58] <Dreamglider> Ultimate Boot DC nice thing to have at hand
[11:58] <kangpeh> like i changed the colors of my own username
[11:58] <Dreamglider> CD
[11:58] <kangpeh> but when im at the gdmlogin for instance
[11:58] <kangpeh> the color is brown
[11:58] <ghb> Dreamglider: UBCD is the savor. =)
[11:58] <tristanmike> ReleaseX, I don't think you can, just download and install http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/python-xdg_0.14-0ubuntu1~5.04ubp1_all.deb
[11:58] <propagandhi> ghb: you can enable it from the command line - trying to remember the command - anyone quick help -
[11:58] <Dreamglider> it s ince indeed yes but one must use causion with it tho trust me ;)
[11:59] <ghb> propagandhi: Well, considering that the installation of Ubuntu when pretty fast, I assume that DMA on the DVD-ROM is enabled by BIOS.
[11:59] <seethru> Dreamglider: hmmm, what bootloader did you have running before?
[11:59] <steve_> I haven't used the new version of Gnome that's comin' with Breezy but does anybody know if it allows additions of shortcuts to its applications menu?
[11:59] <kikidonk> is this a good place to ask for an advice on installing ubuntu colony ?
[11:59] <Dreamglider> seethru, grub
[11:59] <seethru> steve_: you can add them in 2.10 with smeg