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| crimsun | holy, 8 am tomorrow? | 05:07 |
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| jsgotangco | meeting? | 05:07 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 05:07 |
| crimsun | yeah | 05:07 |
| jsgotangco | its always that time | 05:07 |
| ajmitch_ | fun | 05:07 |
| jsgotangco | its not so bad for me that's 8pm | 05:08 |
| crimsun | jsgotangco: I've just joined this channel, so I'm not familiar with the routine | 05:08 |
| jsgotangco | oh the meetings are always every wednesday around 12-14UTC | 05:08 |
| ajmitch_ | it'd be 1AM for me | 05:08 |
| ajmitch_ | so don't feel bad about 8am | 05:08 |
| crimsun | oh I don't, ajmitch_ :) | 05:09 |
| crimsun | I'm just trying to work out my sleep schedule so I can make these meetings | 05:09 |
| ajmitch_ | hah | 05:09 |
| jsgotangco | the TBs are worse for me its usually around 4am | 05:10 |
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| jinty | morning all | 08:06 |
| magnon | morning | 08:07 |
| JaneW | morning | 08:30 |
| jsgotangco | afternoon | 08:31 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 08:31 |
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| ajmitch_ | morning | 08:34 |
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| JaneW | highvoltage: what were you asking about Fear Factor? | 09:33 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: i heard from someone who heard from someone else who heard from someone else that you might be going on Fear Factor. | 09:38 |
| jsgotangco | wow | 09:39 |
| highvoltage | strange that i'm on this channel. all our international bandwidth is supposedly down :/ | 09:39 |
| === jsgotangco looks forward seeing JaneW jumping off a building or wrestling with alligators | ||
| highvoltage | or eating horseguts | 09:39 |
| jsgotangco | pig brains | 09:39 |
| highvoltage | or lying in a pool of worms, with lasers attached to their heads | 09:40 |
| JaneW | YUM | 09:43 |
| JaneW | no I am not doing it | 09:43 |
| JaneW | I entered | 09:43 |
| JaneW | and I was selected | 09:43 |
| JaneW | BUT | 09:43 |
| JaneW | the filming is the exact time that I'll be away in Canada | 09:43 |
| JaneW | so I had to sadly step-down | 09:44 |
| JaneW | SHEW! | 09:44 |
| JaneW | would have been fun though | 09:44 |
| JaneW | thing is I either would have been out in the first round (if it was one of those killer strength tasks) and been pathetic | 09:44 |
| JaneW | or if it was a balance/height, actual fear thing I could have done well, but you never know what you are going to get... | 09:45 |
| jsgotangco | i'd still prefer seeing you do the yummy gourmet challenge | 09:48 |
| JaneW | heh | 09:48 |
| JaneW | my concern with that is not so much what they have to eat but the VOLUME of it | 09:48 |
| JaneW | I couldn't eat a delicious meal of that size! | 09:48 |
| JaneW | I would rather do a lie in something yucky task than have to eat it though... | 09:49 |
| jsgotangco | some of the things they make contestants eat are just normal food over here | 09:50 |
| JaneW | nod | 09:50 |
| === JaneW gets her kids to finish their food by pretending they are on Fear Factor | ||
| jsgotangco | lol | 09:50 |
| JaneW | I count down the last minute and yell 'chew and swallow!' | 09:51 |
| JaneW | if they get it diwn in time they get a treat ;) | 09:51 |
| JaneW | in fact we get lots of stuff done based on reality TV | 09:51 |
| JaneW | the Bed Time routine is the Amazing Race | 09:51 |
| jsgotangco | ahh where does Tempation Island fit in? | 09:52 |
| JaneW | lol | 09:54 |
| JaneW | we haven;t watched that! | 09:54 |
| JaneW | we do Survivor, Amazing Race, Fear Factor and the Apprentice | 09:54 |
| jsgotangco | well of course the kids aren't going be involved in temptation island for sure | 09:55 |
| ajmitch_ | JaneW: a real shame we won't get to see you on fear factor then :) | 10:10 |
| JaneW | ajmitch_: indeed :) | 10:11 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: I hope not! | 10:11 |
| JaneW | is ogra up yet? | 10:19 |
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| jsgotangco | it would be nice if the next conference would be somewhere in asia | 10:35 |
| === JaneW agrees | ||
| JaneW | jsgotangco: work on sabdfl for that | 10:36 |
| jsgotangco | china perhaps | 10:36 |
| jsgotangco | japan would be too expensive | 10:37 |
| JaneW | THAILAND!!!!!! | 10:37 |
| jsgotangco | no not in phuket =) people won't work | 10:38 |
| ajmitch_ | how about a bit further south, somewhere more exotic | 10:38 |
| ajmitch_ | like New Zealand | 10:38 |
| jsgotangco | we've been in australia already | 10:38 |
| === jsgotangco hides | ||
| ajmitch_ | :P | 10:39 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch_, or probably a few hundred kilometers near the antartic in the south island? | 10:39 |
| ajmitch_ | sounds good | 10:40 |
| jsgotangco | it would be like Ubuntu in permafrost | 10:40 |
| ajmitch_ | at only 45 degrees south | 10:40 |
| jsgotangco | we might actually get real penguins as participants | 10:41 |
| ajmitch_ | we have penguins near here :) | 10:41 |
| jsgotangco | wow | 10:41 |
| ajmitch_ | I'm sure some people will go to look at them for LCA | 10:41 |
| ogra | JaneW, yes, sorry, was reading my new bugs frist | 10:42 |
| ajmitch_ | ogra! | 10:42 |
| ogra | JaneW, nice news from mark :) | 10:42 |
| ajmitch_ | news? | 10:42 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch_, or some place really hot like in the middle east | 10:42 |
| ajmitch_ | mm | 10:42 |
| ajmitch_ | far too hot for me | 10:42 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch_, by chance did you sign my key? i don't think i've seen your email at all... | 10:44 |
| === jsgotangco has been looking at his archives | ||
| ajmitch_ | I probably did | 10:44 |
| ajmitch_ | whether I remembered to send it is another matter | 10:45 |
| jsgotangco | ahh | 10:45 |
| jsgotangco | i still receive emails from lamont every now and then | 10:45 |
| ajmitch_ | yeah | 10:45 |
| JaneW | ogra: yes | 10:52 |
| JaneW | ogra: now we need to not stuff it up! ;) | 10:53 |
| jsgotangco | stuff? | 10:53 |
| ogra | JaneW, yup | 10:55 |
| ogra | lets send a mail to the ML | 10:56 |
| JaneW | ogra: yes, and we'll discuss later at meeting | 10:57 |
| JaneW | ogra: mhz already offered to handle artwork | 10:57 |
| jsgotangco | errr??? | 10:57 |
| JaneW | I asked silbs to show my ubuntu breezy artwork | 10:57 |
| JaneW | s/my/me the | 10:57 |
| JaneW | she sasy it will be on the wiki in a day or so | 10:57 |
| ogra | great | 10:58 |
| jsgotangco | errr??? | 10:58 |
| ogra | i dont thin we're in a hurry... as i said before... pressing can go on past release | 10:58 |
| JaneW | ogra: I'll start loook for printing and oressing options, but yes lets wait till we are READY rather than rushing | 10:59 |
| JaneW | nod | 10:59 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: ? | 10:59 |
| jsgotangco | ? | 10:59 |
| JaneW | ogra: do you want to look at options in germany? | 10:59 |
| JaneW | ? | 10:59 |
| === ajmitch_ is wondering what this wonderful news is :) | ||
| ogra | JaneW, hmm... | 11:00 |
| === jsgotangco is lost | ||
| === ajmitch_ also | ||
| ogra | we'll get pressed CDs if we can prove they are needed | 11:00 |
| jsgotangco | oh that's rather hard people love free stuff | 11:00 |
| ogra | 500 max to each country | 11:00 |
| ogra | and it needs to be documented in detail where they went | 11:01 |
| jsgotangco | including the vatican??? | 11:01 |
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| ogra | if the vatican asks :p | 11:01 |
| ajmitch_ | jsgotangco: sure, I know some people in the Vatican who might be interested :) | 11:01 |
| ogra | ajmitch_, serious ? | 11:01 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch_, catholic priests/nuns as hackers can be scary | 11:01 |
| ajmitch_ | ogra: probably not about edubuntu.. but I do have contacts with web stuff :) | 11:02 |
| ajmitch_ | jsgotangco: oh I know | 11:02 |
| ogra | hey we have gnomesword in universe... its perfect for them to teach the bible | 11:02 |
| ajmitch_ | :) | 11:03 |
| ajmitch_ | jsgotangco: like I've got a copy of the catechism marked up in XML, other zope/plone stuff that I'm working on with friends in .au :) | 11:04 |
| ajmitch_ | but that's probably getting OT even for here ;) | 11:04 |
| jsgotangco | sure next time we'll have our cover CD models as a christian priest, a buddhist monk and a muslim imam doing the ubuntu pose | 11:05 |
| ajmitch_ | haha | 11:05 |
| jsgotangco | at least they won't refer as as LinuXXX again | 11:05 |
| JaneW | guys this is not religubuntu! ;) | 11:06 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: but I like your photo op idea ;) | 11:07 |
| jsgotangco | JaneW, face it you like the idea | 11:07 |
| jsgotangco | ok test new updates | 11:08 |
| jsgotangco | brb | 11:08 |
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| JaneW | does the calculator on edubuntu have graphing functionality? | 11:38 |
| ogra | JaneW, nope, we have kig for that | 11:42 |
| JaneW | ok so kig does graphing of mathematical functions? | 11:42 |
| JaneW | I have a Dr asking | 11:43 |
| ogra | (or probably drgeo fro next release) | 11:43 |
| ogra | drgeo is the gnome equivalent to kig | 11:43 |
| ogra | oh, and kmplot as a smaller graphing app... | 11:44 |
| ogra | i gess the latter is what he's looking for | 11:44 |
| JaneW | ogra: also did you read the review at http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/2619/ ? | 11:44 |
| ogra | oh, no, didnt know it | 11:44 |
| === ogra reads | ||
| JaneW | I think the guys has some valid points | 11:44 |
| JaneW | re menus etc | 11:44 |
| JaneW | (which we do know about and have discussed) | 11:45 |
| ogra | phew | 11:45 |
| ogra | they didnt read the install instructions | 11:45 |
| ogra | and they used a *very* old snaphot (no wallpaper) | 11:45 |
| JaneW | nod | 11:46 |
| JaneW | should we contact him and ask him to try again? | 11:46 |
| ogra | not before the dhcp.conf generation bug is fixed... | 11:46 |
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| JaneW | ok | 11:50 |
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| JaneW | **Reminder** 2 hours to Edubuntu Update Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting | 11:59 |
| === ajmitch_ decides to skip the meeting & head to bed instead :) | ||
| jsgotangco | i have nothing to update | 12:08 |
| ogra | i have a long list :/ | 12:08 |
| JaneW | ajmitch_: night | 12:12 |
| JaneW | ogra: see e-mail please - re WSIS | 12:12 |
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| jsgotangco | im still waiting for people to actually collaborate on the wiki pages :/ | 12:16 |
| jsgotangco | (and the release notes for ubuntu itself) | 12:17 |
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| JaneW | **Reminder** 45 mins to Edubuntu Update Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting | 01:14 |
| JaneW | **Reminder** 5 mins to Edubuntu Update Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting | 01:54 |
| JaneW | **Reminder** Edubuntu Update Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting NOW | 02:01 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: how would I know that my rt request is being processed? is there a place i can check? | 05:25 |
| ogra | highvoltage, i dont think thats public.... | 05:25 |
| ogra | and i dont think rt is right for usage by non canonical people... | 05:26 |
| ogra | but you'll certainly get answer if it was right or not | 05:26 |
| highvoltage | ok. we use rt at tsf too, so i know what you mean :) | 05:26 |
| highvoltage | ok, have a good evening. relax a bit too, ogra. i think you also need to take a nice long vacation after release :) | 05:28 |
| ogra | no time to relax now :) | 05:28 |
| ogra | but later i will | 05:28 |
| highvoltage | cool. cheers! | 05:28 |
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| jelkner | ogra: hi Oliver, are you here? | 06:56 |
| ogra | jelkner, yup | 06:57 |
| jelkner | i wanted to ask you about two things: | 07:02 |
| jelkner | 1. eclipse | 07:02 |
| jelkner | 2. the "sreen blanking bug" | 07:02 |
| jelkner | today's update of eclipse broke it | 07:03 |
| ogra | i have never used it | 07:03 |
| jelkner | it can no longer find the blackdown java sdk installed on the system | 07:03 |
| jelkner | i depend on it for my apcsc classes | 07:04 |
| jelkner | so i want to file a bug report | 07:04 |
| jelkner | that would go in malone, yes? | 07:04 |
| ogra | j2sdk1.4 and j2re1.4 are both installed from multiverse... eclipse is in universe, so yesd | 07:05 |
| ogra | -d | 07:05 |
| ogra | but what do you mean with "it can no longer find the blackdown java sdk installed on the system" ? | 07:06 |
| ogra | theer was no cange since weeks... | 07:06 |
| ogra | eek | 07:06 |
| ogra | there was no change | 07:06 |
| ogra | so if you didnt uninstall it, it shouldnt vanish | 07:07 |
| jelkner | hmm... | 07:09 |
| jelkner | when i did the "apt-get dist-upgrade" today | 07:09 |
| jelkner | there was a dependency issue with one of the eclipse packages | 07:10 |
| jelkner | so in uninstalled it | 07:10 |
| jelkner | finished the dist-upgrade | 07:10 |
| jelkner | and reinstalled | 07:10 |
| jelkner | (only eclipse, not the j2sdk1.4) | 07:10 |
| ogra | never do dist-upgrade in unstable releases | 07:11 |
| jelkner | now when we start eclipse, it won't start, saying "can not find a java runtime environment" | 07:11 |
| ogra | dist-upgrade means you allow the system to uninstall packages, even if they are essential to fulfill the dependencys | 07:11 |
| jelkner | ok, only "upgrade" then? | 07:11 |
| ogra | only use upgrade | 07:11 |
| ogra | yes | 07:11 |
| jelkner | ok | 07:11 |
| ogra | it does only upgrade... | 07:12 |
| jelkner | i need to go help a student, brb... | 07:12 |
| ogra | but dist-upgrade asks you if its ok with you to uninstall stuff... | 07:12 |
| jelkner | bell rang, student left, i'm back.. | 07:22 |
| jelkner | is malone the place to report the bug? | 07:22 |
| ogra | for eclipse ? yes | 07:22 |
| jelkner | ok, great | 07:22 |
| jelkner | i'll do that | 07:23 |
| ogra | but really read if apt asks you questions ;) | 07:23 |
| crimsun | (eclipse should just work with breezy's gcj, correct?) | 07:23 |
| ogra | it wouldnt just uninstall stuff wihout confirmation normally | 07:23 |
| ogra | yup | 07:23 |
| jelkner | the java stuff is very confusing | 07:24 |
| jelkner | gcj isn't quite ready for the ap course | 07:24 |
| ogra | crimsun, but gjc neither brings you the ff plugin, nor does it match the sun tutorials i think | 07:24 |
| ogra | its ok to run specifically adjusted stuff though | 07:25 |
| jelkner | when you look up "java" on synaptic you get many confusing choices | 07:25 |
| jelkner | one of the things i'm hoping to ask for "Dapper" is if we could create an "APCSC" meta package that would install everything needed to teach java on Edubuntu | 07:26 |
| ogra | rather look for blackdown | 07:26 |
| ogra | sure we can :) | 07:26 |
| jelkner | cool! | 07:26 |
| jelkner | anyway, the other bug, and then i'm off to my other school... | 07:27 |
| jelkner | has anyone mentioned the "screen blanking" bug? | 07:27 |
| ogra | screen blanking ? | 07:27 |
| jelkner | Edubuntu clients routinely have their screens go blank for a second or 3 | 07:27 |
| jelkner | it happens randomly | 07:28 |
| ogra | erm | 07:28 |
| jelkner | and the screen always comes back | 07:28 |
| ogra | that shouldnt happen | 07:28 |
| jelkner | it does | 07:28 |
| jelkner | my students are used to it | 07:28 |
| ogra | are you sure you dont have gnome-screensaver installed or something like that ? | 07:28 |
| jelkner | it is not frequent enough to be a huge problem | 07:28 |
| jelkner | only an anoyance | 07:28 |
| jelkner | no, it isn't anything like that | 07:29 |
| ogra | we temporarily switched to gnome-screensaver, please check if its still there | 07:29 |
| jelkner | when was that? | 07:29 |
| ogra | if not please file a bugzilla bug with component UNKNOWN | 07:29 |
| jelkner | i've been dealing with this all along | 07:29 |
| ogra | a bit more than two weeks ago | 07:29 |
| jelkner | hmm... | 07:29 |
| ogra | or even 2 ... | 07:29 |
| ogra | err 3 | 07:30 |
| jelkner | i'll file the bugzilla report later today then... | 07:30 |
| ogra | if thats the case, just uninstall gnome-screensaver | 07:30 |
| ogra | please check for it first | 07:30 |
| crimsun | in a Terminal, dpkg -l gnome-screensaver|grep ^ii | 07:31 |
| jelkner | i just removed it | 07:31 |
| ogra | ah, it was there ? | 07:31 |
| ogra | great... | 07:31 |
| jelkner | yup | 07:31 |
| jelkner | i'll watch over the next few days and see what happens | 07:31 |
| jelkner | well, i gotta run... | 07:31 |
| ogra | just make sure xscreensaver is installed now, if you want to use a screensaver :) | 07:31 |
| ogra | but it should be anyway, its a dependency of edubuntu-desktop ;) | 07:32 |
| ogra | have fun :) | 07:32 |
| jelkner | it is there | 07:32 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 07:32 |
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| mhz | hey | 09:15 |
| mhz | ogra: ping | 09:15 |
| ogra | pong | 09:15 |
| === mhz is desperately needing help | ||
| mhz | coll | 09:15 |
| mhz | ogra: I was finishing edubutu install and we suffered a powercut | 09:15 |
| ogra | ouch | 09:16 |
| mhz | what's the command to restart dpkg reconfiguration of all pending software??? | 09:16 |
| mhz | I got up to 68% | 09:16 |
| mhz | after having the reboot part, of course. | 09:17 |
| ogra | base-config | 09:17 |
| mhz | si dpkg was actualli configuring packages | 09:17 |
| ogra | and dpkg --configure -a | 09:17 |
| mhz | diff? | 09:17 |
| ogra | base-config is what starts after reboot | 09:17 |
| mhz | and the other? | 09:17 |
| ogra | it calls dpkg --configure -a at some point | 09:18 |
| mhz | ah, so I should only start with base-config ? | 09:18 |
| ogra | but dpkg --configure -a only configures packages, if not all were installed at this time, you might have to reinstall | 09:18 |
| mhz | thx | 09:18 |
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| ogra | good luck | 09:19 |
| mhz | base config started from clock setting. | 09:20 |
| mhz | is that allright? | 09:20 |
| mhz | weel, base-config asked me to set apt, so I decided to manually run dpkg --configure -a | 09:22 |
| mhz | anyways, thx. | 09:22 |
| mhz | and I f you happen to have any more suggestions I'll be available via mail to mhz AT tecnocimiento DOT cl | 09:22 |
| mhz | c ya! | 09:22 |
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