[12:04] anyone? [12:08] !repositories [12:08] repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)) === Drakeson [n=Drakeson@69.158.164.85] has joined #kubuntu [12:12] got a problem. I installed as expert so I have a root password. When I choose a menu item and get a prompt for the su password, it always fails "su returned with a failure". === kklinux [n=kklinux@d150-126-121.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:13] gstrock: probably need your user password [12:13] well, the root and the user password are the same! [12:13] doh [12:15] question when installing kubuntu breezy i get the following error can't install initd tools. I installed winblows first on one partition and left the rest of the hd unallocated and went to install breezy on there this is how i'm having the issue when trying to install the base system. === juju [n=juju@137.139.119-80.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:22] can't install initd tools... hmmm... I just helped a co-worker, her install borked on base system, seems she was trying to install it into a fat32 partition. Probably not your problem, I'm just throwing something out here. [12:22] Riddell you around? [12:23] delltony: hi [12:25] hey man have a question i hope you can help me with [12:25] I had breezy up and running Kubuntu that is and all was fine but i needed windows for work so i did the following [12:25] i hosed the drive and repartitioned it with a 9gig ntfs partition [12:26] and the rest unallocated for linux [12:26] i installed xp on the 9gig and then go to install kubuntu on the rest and all is good till i get to the base install and i get the old error that i seen in warty of can't install initrd-tools [12:26] delltony: check your md5s [12:27] just out of curiousity how can i do that on a none linux system? [12:27] md5sum.exe [12:27] delltony: no idea I'm afraid, I'm not a windows user [12:27] no thats fine nor am i that much [12:28] but asking in a general ubuntu place might help [12:28] delltony: what were you installing from? [12:28] i'm with nalioth the cd might be bad in terms of md5sum [12:28] from a cd i burned the preview blah blah breezy [12:28] the lastest one on the site as of yesterday [12:29] delltony: check the md5 of both the iso image and the burnt cd-r [12:29] ok will do [12:29] ill be home in about 2 hours and will let you know i[m at work right now [12:29] thanks for the tip [12:30] delltony: and if the md5s check out on the disk, you might try burning it as slow as you can burn [12:33] Linux can read and write fat32 so how come no one installs Linux on a fat32 partition? [12:33] gstrock: the permission model is all different and inappropriate [12:34] gstrock: however, there is an extension of the 'vfat' driver called 'umsdos' that works around that. [12:34] gstrock: but I don't think many people have used 'umsdos' in the past five years. [12:34] yeah, ok. thanks === hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-33-193.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu === smux [n=smux@home.mescaline.fr] has joined #kubuntu [01:00] hi === __Ace__ [n=love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu === Cem__ [n=cem0r@dslb-084-060-132-165.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === transgress [i=transgre@68-191-99-24.dhcp.dctr.al.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === activelow [n=jradford@host-69-95-140-190.pit.choiceone.net] has joined #kubuntu === hippie10 [n=hippie@pc-200-74-48-60.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:26] anyone have tips for an Ipod 40gig via usb on hoary? I get usb 2-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 when I plug it in [01:27] ok [01:27] WTF would cause firefox to start crashing out of the blue [01:27] over and over and over [01:33] activelow: you using gtkpod? [01:34] nalioth: nothing right now, I just plugged it in too see if it would mount and it doesnt see it as a mass storage device [01:34] activelow: gtkpod is the interface software [01:35] nalioth: shouldnt it be detected as as a sdx device? [01:35] activelow: i have no ipod and no clue [01:36] activelow: i just know gtkpod is uses as a mediary tween your music player and the ipod === othernoob [n=othernoo@p54A2E5BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:36] activelow: ask in #ubuntu [01:36] I'll try installing that and see what happends [01:36] ok === greg [n=greg@66-168-30-219.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === thehil [n=h@pc79545.d.cwu.edu] has left #kubuntu [] === downclimb [n=johnson@host-69-145-229-49.cac-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #kubuntu === drom1n4d0 [n=carlosvi@217.129.138.81] has joined #kubuntu [01:53] somebody here? [01:53] for help me [02:04] hi dromln4d0 [02:13] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [02:13] what is mean [02:13] how resolve this? === `Nomad [n=Bob@mctnnbsa30w-156034037024.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:14] do you have synaptic open? [02:14] i tink no [02:15] how im open [02:15] it means you are trying to install a package in two different locations... so either apt-get install or install with synaptic or kynaptic [02:16] ok [02:16] what i have doing? [02:16] for resolve the problem [02:17] just make sure to close your console or synaptic/kynaptic [02:17] make sure only one packager is open at one time [02:17] how i close the synaptic [02:17] just close it like a normal window [02:18] but the windows are close [02:18] the kopete is the only open anda the konversation [02:18] are you sure? it must be open in the background somewhere === activelow [n=jradford@host-69-95-140-190.pit.choiceone.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === rolf [n=rolf@c-c91072d5.02-118-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === rolf [n=rolf@c-c91072d5.02-118-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === JC|Burt [n=Burt@p5481D4AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:27] ??? === JC|Burt [n=Burt@p5481D4AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === philipacamaniac [n=philip@ip68-228-49-137.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:31] does kaffeine play dvd's or do I gotta dl sumthing else? === utta [n=utta@c-24-128-224-224.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:38] phoenixbyrd: for most dvd's which are encrypted you need libdvdcss [02:38] kk, ty [02:38] it used to be available from backports, but I don't know where to find it these days === philipacamaniac is looking [02:38] I just got it off kynaptic [02:39] hrm... [02:39] there ya go === `Nomad_is_me [n=Bob@mctnnbsa30w-156034036137.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:40] kaffeine give's a new error now, says I need the decoder or whatnot, didn't say that before tho [02:40] trying mplayer [02:40] hoary or breezy [02:41] breezy I think... not sure which I installed. Just dled one without looking. Windows got messed up and wouldn't reinstall, so... I'm done with windows [02:41] that's cool to hear [02:41] okay, kaffeine by default uses gstreamer in breezt [02:42] yea, I read the reactivation crap... no way in hell am I going through that lol [02:42] yea, it's using gstreamer [02:42] if it does work in mplayer, and you want it to work in kaffeine, you should install kaffeine-xine from kynaptic [02:42] xine will use the same codecs [02:42] as mplayer [02:43] k, mplayer is complaining about decode_audio [02:43] ug, evil... try another dvd just in case [02:43] is this that mp3 problem I've read about? [02:45] kaffeine is sorta working... I think [02:46] I don't see the xine thing for kaffeine [02:50] found sumthing bout the dma, fixed that part [02:50] now it's not playing lol [02:52] sorry, i stepped away for a second [02:52] np [02:53] totem won't even install :/ [02:53] kaffeine-xine is in universe, and then to use it - in kaffeine, go to Settings -> Player Engine -> Kaffeine === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu [02:54] totem should install without problem - you don't have any backports mirrors in your /etc/apt/sources.list do you? [02:55] I can't find it in universe, and setting's just shows gstreamer, and idk what a backport mirror is yet [02:56] when I goto install totem, the lil checkmark won't stay up, and if I try to install anyways it quits === _troy [n=troy@wnpgmb01dc2-28-75.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #kubuntu === _troy is now known as troy [02:58] nick thieves [02:59] those bastards [03:03] phoenixbyrd: type my nick when you want to grab my attention - install totem from a konsole by typing "sudo apt-get install totem" [03:03] kk === Kibou [n=kib@dslb-084-063-016-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:05] it's working with ogle :D [03:06] well, whatever works, ya know === kakalto [n=kakalto@wired-210-54-56-145.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === lonewolff [n=lonewolf@host86-128-128-38.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === firebird [n=firebird@218.153.72.152] has joined #kubuntu === jjesse [n=trillian@69-87-140-130.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:22] !tell gstreamer [03:22] !tell amarok [03:22] WTF would cause firefox to start crashing out of the blue [03:22] over and over and over [03:22] !tell me amarok [03:24] !tell jjesse krita [03:28] anyone? [03:33] jjesse: you're forgetting the *about* :P [03:33] dnag thanks apokryphos never used it before [03:33] jjesse: /msg ubotu factoid [03:33] !tell about krita [03:34] and the !tell works like; !tell X about factoid [03:34] !tell jjesse about gstreamer [03:34] jjesse: better to /msg though =) [03:35] or, use the searchable page [03:35] !list [03:35] rumour has it, list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage [03:35] grin Riddell gave me a ton of changes for krelease notes that i'm trying to get in before releasea canadiate [03:35] heh [03:36] so i'm trying to find stuff i don't know about [03:37] jjesse: kde docs are a great place to look, of course :) [03:37] ok i will look there, kubuntu docs are not since i'm writing them :( [03:38] what things specifically are you trying to write about? [03:39] currently? all the new changes in breezy badger for kubuntu [03:44] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseNotes [03:44] and making it current for kubuntu 5.10 [03:47] I see === satafterh [n=robin@fctnnbsc15w-156034083230.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:51] apokryphos: how do i setup khelpcenter to allow me to search the kde docs? [03:52] right now all it allows me to search are manual pages [03:52] jjesse: I don't really use it, but it should have the docs there on the left and you can create an index [03:52] hm [03:52] urm, same here it seems [03:53] what do you want to search for? [03:53] docs.kde.org is good [03:53] nothing off the top of my head, just was looking around [03:54] jjesse: you can look around by using the Contents [03:54] though I tend to always just use konqueror using the help kioslave === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-64.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === kakalto [n=kakalto@wired-210-54-56-145.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === satafterh [n=robin@fctnnbsc15w-156034083230.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:59] any one in here help me?? === bdmp2000 [n=bdmp4000@PPPa25.hyogo-ip.dti.ne.jp] has joined #kubuntu === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu === Foodcoman [n=berickso@c-24-20-116-33.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === dashrike [i=dashrike@rc13atjclc.desktop.umr.edu] has joined #kubuntu [04:15] linux can read off a drive formatted in windows, yes? [04:16] yes [04:16] but it cant write on NTFS === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-64.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:16] write to FAT though? [04:16] which is the xp kind [04:16] yeah [04:16] k [04:16] xp can run off FAT as well [04:17] so if you want to share a drive to fat 32 [04:17] xp can read and write fat32 [04:17] but it can't run off it [04:17] oh [04:17] when you install it it is auto NTFS [04:18] there is a project working on making ntfs writing in linux but it is dangerous [04:18] 2k can run off fat, yes? [04:18] yes [04:19] I'm used to that anyways [04:19] not can, but does [04:19] only? [04:19] when you install 2k it is only fat32 [04:19] I know 2k can read and write to ntfs as well though [04:19] yeah [04:20] sure [04:20] but the installs have defauts [04:20] you can't change the file system [04:21] the difference is "run off" and "read and write to" [04:21] yu [04:21] p === TokenBad [n=tokenbad@67.189.70.241] has joined #kubuntu === Ahil [n=Ahil@213.240.243.214] has joined #kubuntu === Ahil [n=Ahil@213.240.243.214] has left #kubuntu [] [04:29] in evolution email is there a way to have it save emails you have? [04:32] TokenBad: did you ask in #ubuntu.. most of the folks use the gnome apps.. most here use the kde apps === seth_k [n=seth_k@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:41] http://www.mailnation.net/ [04:41] is kde 3.5 b1 packages out for amd64? === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@DHCP-6-217.caltech.edu] has joined #kubuntu === FractuS [n=jey@204.97.199.146] has joined #kubuntu [04:50] hi there === delltony [n=bla@c-24-99-11-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:57] Riddell are you around? [04:58] i ran a md5sum on the iso and it matched up fine however, on the cdrom there is a md5sum.txt and i ran it against the cd and i get 3 errors for mixmatch [04:58] i have burned the cd on 2 seperate systems and the same error on both systems so i don't feel its on my end although i could be wrong [04:59] .\install\netboot\pxelinux.0 ERROR: Checksum did not match. [04:59] .\pool\main\p\python2.4\python2.4_2.4.1-3_i386.deb ERROR: Checksum did not match. === jjesse [n=trillian@69-87-140-130.async.iserv.net] has left #kubuntu [] === kkathman [n=kkathman@h-66-167-142-251.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:07] evening all === Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-116-22.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === seth_k [n=seth_k@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu === satafterh [n=robin@fctnnbsc15w-156034093143.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === FractuS [n=jey@204.97.199.146] has joined #kubuntu === frank23 [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu === Jeevan [n=jeevan@pe17503.lrdns.com] has joined #kubuntu === dave_ is now known as Glin|Jol === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-64.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === KingBahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Octane [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Karl@ppp217-248.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:04] anyone: where are kmenu entries stored (what file should I backup for my kmenu customizations)? [06:05] no idea sry [06:10] me neither [06:10] .kde should be fine though [06:10] just yoink the whole folder, mm? [06:11] yeah, I'm also seeing .local/share/applications === ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #kubuntu [06:12] problem is, I want to somehow merge Breezy changes to my current menu, when I upgrade this machine [06:13] philipacamaniac, I'd bite the bullet and just redo your changes [06:13] imo [06:13] ay caramba [06:14] okay, okay - but I'm backing it up nonetheless [06:17] I really should do a clean install, since I've done things like splashy and other ubuntuguide.org changes on my hoary [06:18] but.... I'm not looking forward to recompiling about 20 programs, one of which took forever (ardour) [06:18] I'll try the dist-upgrade and we'll see how it goes === regeya [n=shane@dialup-4.159.56.208.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu === propagandhi [n=pclaven@CPE-144-131-132-107.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [06:35] is anyone here using kmetabar === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.16] has joined #kubuntu [06:38] anyone here use hostap drivers? when i load i get not one but two ether devices === cyne [n=cyne@203.49.222.63] has joined #kubuntu [06:40] when is the next kubuntu due out? [06:40] 10-13 methinks === activelow [n=jradford@host-69-95-141-220.pit.choiceone.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:40] kewl :) [06:42] because mine needs a clean install [06:43] too many things are strange since i did a dist-upgrade === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-180.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [06:46] ubuntu is 13th, i expet kubuntu will be as well [06:47] Kamping_Kaiser: have you ever used Koffice? [06:47] cyne: no, i hardly use office tools at all [06:47] when i do its OO.o :/ === activelow [n=jradford@host-69-95-141-220.pit.choiceone.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:48] ok, just wondering, i'd never heard of koffice, yet it has a heap of tools [06:51] yakuake is the best konsole improvement, it rocks [06:52] indeed. === pc22 [n=arik@222.126.13.162] has joined #kubuntu === propagandhi [n=pclaven@CPE-144-131-132-107.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #kubuntu [] [06:53] hello, anyone can guide me install win apps using wine pls. this is my first time [06:53] pc22 what do you want to install? are you sure it will work ? [06:54] but to install, you open Konsole , type "wine /path/to/windows/exe" [06:54] i hope so === chavo [n=chavo@82.sub-70-196-104.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-64.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:57] pc22 [06:57] are you there? [06:58] try this: http://frankscorner.org/ [06:58] yeah im here [06:58] or winehq [06:58] link to app database === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-58-138.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:11] should i copy the apps in linux drive? [07:11] should i copy the windows apps in linux drive? its money2005 === god-zero [n=godzero@c-24-118-30-116.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === aliveuser [i=aliveuse@200.91.94.186] has joined #kubuntu === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-92-26.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu === vox [n=vox@201.130.67.53] has joined #kubuntu === vox is now known as The_Vox === pc22 [n=arik@222.126.13.162] has joined #kubuntu [07:31] what will i add to menu.lst to add xp i lost it when i updated today [07:32] if you look theres an example windows entry in there, you should be able to just copy it :) === seth_k [n=seth_k@asmallorange.com] has left #kubuntu [] [07:33] theres no copy [07:33] i lost the "boot" system administration [07:34] i cant copy cos theres no win entry === greg [n=greg@66-168-30-219.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu === aftertaf [n=david@saralee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu === pipexcz [n=ajus@202.152.162.199] has joined #kubuntu === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-67-169-87-144.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:28] boing :) === colyte [i=colyte@crashmag.net] has joined #kubuntu === KiwiKibi [n=chatzill@dialup-4.243.182.144.Dial1.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-92-26.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu [08:53] Sssay, what's the URL to find apps for Linux, like a CD burner, and a file wiper?? [08:55] !equivalents [08:55] hmm... equivalents is A decent list of linux equivalents and analogues can be found here: http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml#1 === _guest [n=guest@218.208.201.117] has joined #kubuntu [09:15] thanks [09:20] how do i recompile my kernel? [09:20] KiwiKibi: k3b comes with Kubuntu [09:20] for cd burning === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.16] has joined #kubuntu [09:30] uboto how do i recompile my kernel [09:30] !uboto how do i recompile my kernel [09:30] cyne: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-64.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:34] ahh, k3b . . . koolness === tokenbad [n=tokenbad@67.189.70.241] has joined #kubuntu [09:36] :) [09:39] KiwiKibi: it is very kool indeed === mornfall boohs === cyne gives mornfall a new one [09:39] =) gotta sleep . . . l8rz === cyne downloads KOffice === Tm_T does svn up koffice [09:40] kFormula 700k! [09:40] kivio 152k! [09:40] Tm_T: ? [09:40] i dont get it === knubbe [n=knubbe@c-b574e353.022-2027-73746f16.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [09:43] cyne: the very latest development sources from svn === TokenBad [n=tokenbad@67.189.70.241] has joined #kubuntu [09:45] ah :) [09:45] Tm_T: so you use Koffice? === kakalto [n=kakalto@wired-210-54-56-200.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [09:46] yes [09:46] how does it compare to oo.o2 [09:46] when I test or need it :) [09:46] ? [09:46] I find it more comfortable [09:46] or "komfortable" as the kase may be [09:47] =) [09:47] what should I apt-get for ident for irc? [09:47] cyne: why do you need to recompile your kernel? [09:48] its updated with apt... === Tonio- [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:49] morning [09:49] morning :) [09:50] hi Tonio- [09:50] what should I apt-get for ident for irc? [09:50] TokenBad: maybe xinetd helps [09:51] thats the one [09:51] thanks Tm_T [09:51] and open port 113 then ;) [09:52] Tm_T: can you tell me how to recompile my kernel? [09:53] vmware needs me to recompile with latest gcc in order to run [09:53] :o [09:53] :( [09:54] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43065 [09:55] cyne: are you sure you need to recompile one? or do you just want to do it ? ;) [09:55] aftertaf: vmware says it needs me to do it [09:55] crap........ ok. VMware..... didnt see that bit ;) [09:55] `:/ [09:56] s'ok.... not too hard actually. [09:56] using make kpkg is fun :) [09:56] hmm i think this might take a while [09:56] d'oh [09:56] you started on it? [09:56] nope [09:56] you got good info? [09:57] Tm_T just gave me a howto [09:57] thnx Tm_T [09:57] np [09:58] cool.... [09:58] the guy doesnt mention .config though..... [09:58] cyne: you dont actually need to change anything in the kernel? === JakubS [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [10:00] one moment [10:03] http://pastebin.com/383575 [10:03] that's what it says [10:04] ok [10:04] Quote: or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.p [10:04] with CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5". [10:04] how do you do that??? [10:04] !vmware [10:04] i have a gcc-3.3 and a gcc-4.0, but no 3.4.5, apparently [10:04] Syntax error in line 1, aftertaf [10:05] ok... cant you install it? [10:05] you should be able to go CC="/usr/bin/gcc-3.3" [10:05] but it says the same thing [10:05] yeah, but your kernel wasnt compiled with that version. [10:05] oh i see [10:05] 'our kernels', i mean [10:06] apt-cache search gcc shows you 3.4.5 ? [10:07] i can see gcc3.4.4 [10:07] i see a 3.4 but no 3.4.5 [10:07] oh, 3.4.4 yes [10:07] are you wanting to run vmware on your ubuntu? [10:07] yes [10:07] i already had it running [10:08] oki. [10:08] but then i did apt-get dist-upgrade [10:08] and now it won't [10:08] i'd wait till breezy stables out. [10:08] that way we should have the kernel comiled with the gcc version that comes with it (maybe) [10:09] if you cant wait.... do the kernel thingy :) [10:09] i can wait, but it's 8 days man [10:09] :( [10:09] that's 8x24 hours, 8x24x60x60 seconds [10:10] lol [10:10] you can do the kernel thing without screwing your system... [10:10] and you can remove it after if you want... long live apt!!!!! [10:10] a new kernel in a .deb :D [10:11] so when breezy comes out like that, i will have to reinstall the whole OS won't i? [10:11] to get a new kernel [10:11] or will it come down with apt-get [10:11] vmware os? or actual machine os? [10:11] apt-get does the trick [10:11] linux [10:11] as always [10:11] nice [10:12] very :) [10:12] i think i will wait though... it will probably take 8 days to compile the kernel [10:12] breezy development still seems to be going at mach 10. Is that a good sign, or bad? [10:12] nah....... [10:13] i'd say both.... depends on your PoV / mood :) [10:13] god-zero: i think it's great! [10:13] god-zero: i'm only joking with my comments [10:14] hehe. cyne you could do the kernel just for fun and for experience..... [10:14] ya, I know... it just reminded me of that question. [10:15] aftertaf: yes i've decided to do that :) one thing i can say for sure, windows could never handle recompiling itself in a window lol [10:16] i dont know if its actually ever been comiled ;) [10:16] p === peca [n=peca@82.202.116.207] has joined #kubuntu === The_Vox [n=vox@201.130.67.53] has joined #kubuntu [10:16] hehe [10:16] i have to say KOffice is speedy [10:17] Talking about VMs, Doesn't the AMD x86_64 have better VM support (no need for software to reinterpret ring 0 stuff) === lextul [n=lextul@p54B7FBC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:17] isnt ring 0 a scary japanese prequel ? [10:18] thats the original ring iirc [10:18] hehe [10:19] spooky.... the way she walks, with her hair all wrong from a gravity point of view.... [10:19] argh!! [10:19] lol === Kamping_Kaiser isnt into horror [10:20] when it's good like that one is, i am.... :D [10:20] :) [10:20] heres my type of horror - an apt-proxy with no obvios problem, thts rooted... thats about as horror as i like things ;) [10:20] loool [10:21] cig'rette time ;) brb [10:21] lol. k [10:23] on friday will be 7 weeks since i gave up smoking [10:24] does anyone run klik with hoary? [10:25] wd cyne [10:25] it seems to be the new thing nowadays, but the installation of klik itself is hairy, and i won't bother if it doesn't work [10:25] i like how the new version of Konversation shows people who are afk === fitz [n=fitz@adsl150-127.aknet.it] has joined #kubuntu === peca [n=peca@82.202.116.207] has left #kubuntu ["Leave"] [10:27] Kamping_Kaiser: thanks === Kamping_Kaiser looks at row of beer bottles next to vcr... maybe theres something i should give up :/ [10:29] there's a row of wine bottles in my room [10:30] lol [10:30] support! [10:30] *gets drunk* ;P [10:30] do we have any apt-proxy experts? :/ === SillyCone [n=2012@pcp06932379pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === sigi [n=sigi@p549C3F25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:34] i find that my code goes all crazy if i get intoxicated `:/ [10:34] Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, don't use apt-proxy unless you have to [10:35] Kamping_Kaiser: at least not v2, it's largely unreliable and a total resource hog [10:35] (being written in python/twisted) [10:35] o_0 [10:35] mornfall: well thats exactly what i have :| [10:36] try apt-move if it fits your needs... or maybe apt-cacher but i never tried that [10:36] or try to get apt-proxy v1, it is... workable [10:37] ill look at apt-move (may as well), but i have apt-proxy working on serveral boxes, so i wont break them, just this trouble box [10:38] anyone know where to change my Samba Workgroup within the Kubuntu System Settings ? [10:38] It can also build a partial or complete local mirror of a [10:38] Debian binary distribution (including an ``installed-packages only'' mirror) <- mornfall, do you know how to do that? is it rtfm stuff? [10:39] Kamping_Kaiser: probably just rtfm [10:39] ok. *apts in* [10:39] Kamping_Kaiser: i didn't set it up for ages [10:39] haven't? [10:39] whatever ;p === JakubS [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [10:39] lol :) === SillyCone [n=2012@pcp06932379pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] [10:43] looks like it could be good when i work it out :/ === Bizzeh [i=bizzeh@host86-136-146-107.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === JakubS [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [10:51] mornfall: it looks like apt-move only mirrors the distro its running on, is that correct? === morrow [i=aw@netclue.de] has joined #kubuntu === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-64.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:59] loool cyne === fitz [n=fitz@adsl150-127.aknet.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:59] code going wrong when under influence... funny that ;) [10:59] indeed [10:59] lol [11:00] you come back the next day and it's like 'wtf was i thinking' [11:00]