=== cprov aborted, night all === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.246.97.164] has joined #launchpad === nuliukas [n=zygis@lan-84-240-58-9.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #launchpad === RWG is now known as bukkaku === bukkaku is now known as asdhkl === asdhkl is now known as RWG [02:01] Have the paramedics pronounced on this room yey? [02:01] *yet? === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable147.15-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [02:02] Hello? [02:02] If it is this dead, they should have pronounce [02:02] d === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable147.15-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #launchpad [] === stub [n=stub@203-214-4-72.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad === RWG [n=RWGraphi@69.177.48.86] has left #launchpad ["Connection] === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has left #launchpad [] === mpt [n=mpt@201-1-135-91.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [03:43] hi ajmitch [03:43] hi mpt [03:43] how are you? [03:43] ok [03:43] I just realized that I forgot to ask you what you meant by your "launchpad usability rant" earlier [03:43] oh right [03:43] (I can't remember the exact words you used) [03:44] complaining about layout of some malone pages :) [03:44] like https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs [03:44] I was going to file a bug earlier but didn't have time [03:44] we've got the IRC log of what we said, anyway [03:45] which channel and what date? :-) [03:45] here, yesterday [03:45] ok [03:45] about 19 hours ago, +- 1 === mpt uses "inurl:" because he remembers fabbione does the logging [03:46] hrmmm [03:46] There's no #launchpad in http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~fabbione/irclogs/ [03:46] right [03:46] So what's ubuntulog doing? [03:46] good question [03:47] I can put up the log from my irc client [03:47] that would be great, if it's less trouble than a reprise :-) [03:50] http://ajmitch.meta.net.nz/~ajmitch/malone.issues.log [03:50] thanks [03:52] oh, so it's just about Malone search results === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.163.194.98] has joined #launchpad [03:54] essentially, since we use those pages a fair bit [03:54] especially the unassigned ones [03:55] fair enough [03:55] hmm [03:55] not knowing what package the bug is against makes it hard to reassign [03:55] Did the table view show would product/package a bug was in? [03:55] no [03:55] would->what [03:55] sorry, the table view did [03:55] table view is still used for assigned bugs [03:55] like the indeterminate number assigned to MOTU :) [03:56] oh, right, there's that "package" cell in the Useless Floating Column Headers [03:56] yeah [03:56] well, technically not useless, since they still sort the list [03:56] misleading though [03:56] but it's a very odd way of sorting a list that's not a table any more [03:56] since they sort but you can't see what they sort on [03:57] yes [03:58] and ugh, that batch navigation is pretty bad too [03:59] how about the apparantly non-functional advanced search? [03:59] apparantly, just because the controls show far below where you'd expect [04:00] Yeah, that's always been a problem [04:00] ok, I'll see what I can do about that this week [04:00] it wasn't as big a problem in the table view since 20 results were more compact, i guess [04:00] thanks [04:01] how are you liking brazil? [04:01] it's ok [04:01] interesting food [04:01] interesting people [04:02] too many fences [04:02] and quite different from NZ, I bet [04:02] yes === niemeyer_ [n=niemeyer@200.181.170.80] has joined #launchpad === spiv [n=andrew@dsl-1.27.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #launchpad [04:36] jamesh: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/ has a lot of broken diffs [04:37] jamesh: e.g. https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/robert.collins@canonical.com/cscvs--devel--1.0--patch-377/merge === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-47-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === orbitaledy [n=absar@ool-182dec22.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #launchpad [05:29] hey === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #launchpad [06:41] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] ascii-SMASH! (patch-2571: stuart.bishop@canonical.com) === segfault [i=carlos@prognus.com.br] has joined #launchpad [07:28] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--production--1.35: [trivial] Cherry pick patch-2558 (patch-5: stuart.bishop@canonical.com, rocketfuel@canonical.com, mpt@canonical.com) === _Rappy_ [n=hunt-pre@dsl-253-122.monet.no] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=ddaa@ordo.xlii.org] has joined #launchpad === GoRoDeK [n=gorodek@p5083F9FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad [08:28] morning! [08:31] moaning [08:31] SteveA: https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/2110 [08:31] I want BR in bug discussions! === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #launchpad [08:33] BR ? [08:33]
[08:34] i see. it is coming. === dand [n=dand@gw.datagroup.ro] has joined #launchpad === GoRoDeK [n=gorodek@p5083F9FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad [09:00] calling all reviewers! [09:01] kiko didn't get time to review my "navigation" branch, and i really want to land it today. [09:01] stub, spiv, jamesh, lifeless: can one of you guys review it? [09:04] I can't find it on the reviews page or in the diff-viewer-thingy [09:06] i can mail it to you [09:08] was that an offer to do the review? [09:09] It was more an enquiry on how painful the review would be before making an offer ;) [09:11] SteveA: okay [09:11] 1400 lines of diff, 400 of which is doctest, 200 zcml, and quite a bit of deletion [09:11] cheers james. i'll mail it to you. === ..[topic/#launchpad:SteveA] : Discussion with Launchpad users and developers. || https://launchpad.net/ || Includes Rosetta and Malone. || http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/launchpad-current.html || Developers' meeting, Thursday 6 Oct, 12:00 UTC [09:18] SteveA: the -current will change with time [09:18] -current is only the last daily [09:18] and it gets rotated at midnight my time === ..[topic/#launchpad:SteveA] : Discussion with Launchpad users and developers. || https://launchpad.net/ || Includes Rosetta and Malone. || http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ || Developers' meeting, Thursday 6 Oct, 12:00 UTC [09:18] yeah === SteveA cuts it off [09:18] better :) === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@bl5-44-193.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #launchpad [09:20] it would be great if it where possible to search through the logs [09:31] bzr google britney spears [09:32] Found about 12,800,000 revisions. Show them all? === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@243.Red-83-47-24.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [10:01] morning [10:02] hi carlos [10:05] stub, hi, around? [10:05] yes [10:06] stub, could you tell me at what time the mirror at staging is done? [10:07] I need to execute the language pack script after it ends and I thought it finish at 3AM but seems like I was wrong... [10:07] The production backup starts at 0:20 UTC and the staging mirror starts as soon as that completes, say around 1:00UTC [10:07] sorry, 3AM at UTC+2 [10:07] ok, so that's why it failed, I executed my script at the same time the backup starts... [10:08] erm.. actually BST, not UTC I mean (I should get elmo to set the servers on UTC) [10:08] stub, do you know how long takes the mirror? [10:08] stub, no, BST is ok [10:10] Last night finished at 3:45 BST === SteveA --> dentist [10:13] SteveA, later [10:13] stub, ok, so I will run mine at 4:30BST [10:15] Morning all [10:24] sivang, morning [10:29] mornign carlos . === sivang [n=sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #launchpad === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #launchpad [11:22] lifeless: can you make some room at the end of this week to review importd-archivelocation? [11:22] yes [11:22] sure thing [11:22] It's not yet quite done (some cleanups pending) but it's almost there, and it's HUGE [11:34] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--production--1.35: [trivial] Merge from steve.alexander@canonical.com/launchpad--production-remove-actions-portlets--1.35 (patch-6: steve.alexander@canonical.com, stuart.bishop@canonical.com) [11:41] SteveA: have you had a chance to look at my auto-depwait thingy? [11:58] Kinnison: daniel! [12:01] hi sivan === stub [n=stub@203-214-4-72.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad === SteveA re [12:39] er [12:39] ar [12:43] jamesh: how's the navigation review going? [12:45] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] Detected and notified when a .po file is imported and the msgid_Plural was changed in the .pot one + test (patch-2572: carlos.perello@canonical.com) [12:51] jamesh: cos, i want to get it merged soon and convert all remaining traversal [12:53] my machine just made a bizarre noise === Kinnison wonders what caused it === camilotelles [n=Camilo@20132203203.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #launchpad === carlos -> lunch [01:09] see you later [01:14] Kinnison: reviewed, mailed [01:18] SteveA: thanks, I'll get to that after I've finished this -> :-) === Robinho_Peixoto [n=ubuntu@200.128.80.250] has joined #Launchpad [01:28] hi [01:33] In rosetta it does not have the packages update-manager and gnome-app-install [01:36] SteveA: review mailed. I think there is an issue with multiple inheritance of Navigation classes [01:36] jamesh: yeah, there is [01:36] that's why i want people to use pure mixins [01:37] and only a single navigation class [01:38] do you have any suggestions for what to do about it? [01:38] SteveA: if the class dict doesn't contain e.g. __stepto_traversals__, get that attribute from each direct base class and merge them [01:39] it's annoying that the class advisors stuff is such a hack... and that it sometimes hits problems with python attempting to work out its (rather complicated) MRO rules === SteveA is however proud to have originated such a hack ;-) [01:39] jamesh: oic -- you're talking about a different issue [01:39] i'll read through the review [01:41] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: Build daemon task sequencer/serialiser. r=spiv (patch-2573: daniel.silverstone@canonical.com) === cprov [n=cprov@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [01:50] great review jamesh! very thorough. [01:57] hi SteveA, do you have time for reviews today ? [01:57] cprov: yes [01:57] what can i do for you? [01:58] what time is the meeting [01:58] c.p@c.c/launchpad--buildUI--0 (first pass, stuff we discussed yesterday) and launchpad--buildd--0 (second pass, first done by you, remeber ?) [01:59] remember ....agh [01:59] both are short, if can handle them, it 'd keep me busy and i'll be very glad [02:02] SteveA: are you in ? === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [02:05] SteveA: sorry, didn't get your answer. wireless misteriously hangs here. Can you get those review today ? [02:07] SteveA, around? [02:09] cprov: yes [02:09] salgado: yes [02:10] SteveA: thank you [02:10] carlos: do we have Ladin plural forms in the database? [02:12] SteveA, the review I just got from you is exactly the same you did yesterday [02:13] SteveA, I guess you attached the wrong file? [02:16] salgado: could be [02:17] SteveA: ping [02:17] lifeless: hello [02:17] SteveA: what time is the meeting [02:17] what meeting? [02:17] reviewers meeting [02:17] last week I was ... late ... [02:17] ah... it's supposed to be in 42 mins [02:18] thanks [02:20] salgado: i just sent a different one. i think this is the correct one. [02:23] SteveA, now it seems to be. :) [02:23] ok [02:23] great === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.140.231.181] has joined #launchpad [02:30] stub, that unicode_to_unaccented_str() function was already in canonical.encoding (in my shipit-exports branch, at least) === Robinho_Peixoto [n=ubuntu@200.128.80.250] has left #Launchpad [] [02:32] salgado: the only think in my canonical.encoding is the ascii_smash I landed today === shawarma [n=sh@3E6B503C.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #launchpad [02:34] stub, I thought the ascii_smash was something related to unicode_to_unaccented_str [02:35] salgado: No, that is all new code. Different approach, same goal. [02:35] oh, I see [02:38] SteveA: did that unconfuse you? [02:41] Kinnison: i have almost completed my reply [02:42] but i need to get hold of the doctest, as you replied that you have improved it, said i should look, and left me having to use baz or something ;-) [02:42] maybe you can stick that portion of the test in a pastebin? [02:44] sure, one sec [02:45] https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/fileAQdvLx.html [02:46] for some reason FULLYBUILT sounds kinda kinky, in an AOL sort of way === Kinnison laughs [02:46] the new package states could be FULLYBUILT, RIGHTHUNKY, LITHEBUTSTRONG [02:47] can't you create an irc netsex protocol for buildd masters and slaves to communicate? [02:47] # --> NEEDSBUILD has joined #buildd-master-slave-xxx-chat [02:48] # FULLYBUILT NEEDSBUILD: r u single? wanna cybr? [02:49] don't tempt me [02:50] cos you know that elmo would love to run an ircd in the datacentre [02:52] ahha [02:52] Kinnison: speaking of buildd.. how is going to be SCC integration into LP new buildd system? [02:52] cprov: can you help me to catch up with what i need to do for your reviews? [02:53] SCC is what? [02:53] SteveA: sure [02:53] SteveA: what do you need ? [02:53] SteveA: all the arches that are building outside the DC and that are not primary arches (hppa/sparc atm) [02:53] ah, okay [02:53] what does SCC stand for? === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [02:54] matsubara: hi [02:55] fabbione: don't ask me for a week or two [02:55] fabbione: there's a plan for 'em, but it's not implemented and won't be integrated into LP for a bit [02:55] Secondary Class i Can't rememeber what the last c stands for [02:55] cprov: i need to know what i need to reply to, or what branches i need to review for you. i've lost track. === spiv [n=andrew@adsl-66-203.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #launchpad [02:55] fabbione: for now, I imagine you'll continue building against the published source archive [02:55] Hello SteveA [02:55] Kinnison: ok [02:55] stevea, fabbione: (S)econd (C)lass (C)itizens [02:55] Kinnison: we're looking at 4-6 weeks, right? [02:56] fabbione: eventually they'll be external buildds integrated into the same system as everything else [02:56] SteveA: aye, hopefully [02:56] SteveA: uhm ..ok priv [02:56] ok [02:56] Kinnison: roger that [02:56] matsubara: there's a job i need to find someone to do. it's kinda tedious, but is good for seeing what's planned to be happening with launchpad. [02:57] jamesh, spiv, stub, kiko-zzz, lifeless, salgado: reviewers meeting in 5, #c-m [02:58] SteveA: I don't know if you preffer to check the diffs locally, they look pretty fine from jamesh app [02:59] matsubara: basically, https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+specs this doesn't show many launchpad specs. i think all of the launchpad specs that aren't yet implemented should be featured on there. [02:59] SteveA: any other question I'll be here when you finish your meeting [02:59] i'm having a hard time seeing the big picture with where we're going on launchpad, based on the meetings in brazil a while ago. i think seeing a bunch of specs arranged on there will help a lot. [03:00] the specs are all on the launchpad wiki, of course [03:00] so, their metadata needs putting into launchpad, and this fact noting on the specs [03:00] stub: ping [03:00] yo [03:00] stub: Have you received any messages from me with the subject "Using Malone for cherrypicking Launchpad fixes"? [03:01] mpt: Nope [03:01] because I've CCed three such messages to the list, and none of them have shown up [03:02] async mail madness? [03:02] spiv: when do you think you'll get a chance to look at my buildd protocol branch? tomorrow? [03:03] stub: I'm not using async's e-mail server, t'is odd [03:03] Kinnison: Yeah, or maybe even before I go to sleep tonight. [03:04] spiv: If you can, that'd be great. === Kinnison ponders going for lunch [03:04] jordi, don't know... let me check [03:06] jordi, I only see Ladino as a language, is it the same? the lang code is 'lad' [03:06] is 'ladino' the language spoken by young latino men? === mpt predicts a surge in interest in Ladino classes === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [03:10] yo bradb [03:11] hey mpt [03:11] morning [03:11] hey kiko [03:11] bradb, did you see the list of complaints about the new bug listing? [03:11] mpt, I didn't [03:11] mpt: not yet. but that heading thing is just bizarre. noticed it yesterday. [03:12] what is just bizarre bradb? [03:12] bradb: yeah, that should be a