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| jjesse | evening whoever is hanging out at the keys :) | 03:11 |
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| jjesse | looks like i'm the only one | 03:23 |
| HrdwrBob | yo | 03:23 |
| jjesse | hello HrdwrBob | 03:24 |
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| Burgundavia | salut jsgotangco | 07:40 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, I may have to hand off the quicktour for dapper | 07:40 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, oh any reason why? | 07:41 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, basically I my new job at Userful and Ubuntu stuff might collide | 07:42 |
| Burgundavia | currently I am doing no doc work | 07:42 |
| jsgotangco | ahh understood | 07:42 |
| Burgundavia | until I get something in writing from Userful about copyright, etc. | 07:42 |
| jsgotangco | what needs to be done on the quicktour now? | 07:42 |
| Burgundavia | just screenshots | 07:42 |
| jsgotangco | hrmmmm | 07:43 |
| jsgotangco | i guess its pretty safe to do screenshots now | 07:43 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 07:43 |
| jsgotangco | since we're already locked for RC | 07:43 |
| Burgundavia | I have started on my laptop, but didn't get them done by Sunday | 07:43 |
| Burgundavia | I might be being paranoid, but I would rather be sure | 07:43 |
| jsgotangco | sure corey don't worry about it too much | 07:44 |
| jsgotangco | im sure we'll come up with something good during UBZ | 07:44 |
| robitaille | I know the feeling...everything I do during the day at work is technically owned by the Queen of England... | 07:44 |
| Burgundavia | I am already cleared to go to UBZ, which is good | 07:44 |
| jsgotangco | robitaille, but the queen of england is also the queen of canada... | 07:45 |
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| MadpilotPPC | robitaille, no, copyright is owned by the Queen of Canada, who happens also to be the Queen of various smaller places too... ;) | 07:45 |
| robitaille | MadpilotPPC, I know. Actually we just say it is owned by the crown. | 07:46 |
| Burgundavia | robitaille, the Queen of Canada is a seperate legal entity to the Queen of England | 07:46 |
| === robitaille reminds himself to get a picture of the queen to put in his office one of these days :) | ||
| robitaille | at the end of the day it doesn't matter: I don't own the stuff | 07:47 |
| jsgotangco | if i move to victoria i need to have a picture of the queen in my house? | 07:47 |
| robitaille | jsgotangco, no! | 07:47 |
| jsgotangco | ahh goodie | 07:47 |
| robitaille | a statue will be enough :) | 07:48 |
| jsgotangco | gyahhh | 07:48 |
| MadpilotPPC | jsgotangco, yes. And newcomers to victoria are also required to go to High Tea at the Empress at least once ;) | 07:48 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, 5' minimum, in the front lawn | 07:48 |
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| MadpilotPPC | you can install a statue of Queen Victoria if the current model doesn't suit you, though | 07:49 |
| robitaille | wow...all my recent documents are gone from gnome-panel after tonight's updates. I wonder if that's a bug | 07:51 |
| Burgundavia | robitaille, hmm, open another doc, they reappear | 07:51 |
| robitaille | Burgundavia, yep; they did. confused me for a second there | 07:52 |
| robitaille | hummm 11pm...and still many slides to prepare for my ubuntu/foss talk on Thursday. | 07:53 |
| robitaille | another long evening coming up... | 07:53 |
| jsgotangco | robitaille, where you speaking? | 07:54 |
| robitaille | jsgotangco, at work. We have an internal seminars series every week, and I try to give a 1-hour talk every year. this time around, I decided to sell foss and ubuntu to my coworkers :) | 07:56 |
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| mdke | morning | 08:35 |
| jsgotangco | hey mdke | 08:35 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, you never answered my /query yesterday :/ | 08:37 |
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| jsgotangco | mdke, of? | 08:37 |
| jsgotangco | i didnt see any PM | 08:38 |
| mdke | hmm | 08:38 |
| mdke | oh well, i'll try again then | 08:39 |
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| jsgotangco | mdke, where do you suggest to put the doc bug in then? | 09:57 |
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| jsgotangco | hi enrico =) | 10:02 |
| enrico | jsgotangco: hi | 10:03 |
| jsgotangco | how's life treating you? good i hope | 10:10 |
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| ompaul | Hi, this falls somewhere between devs and docs, so I'll throw it in here for what its worth, I upgraded the two machines in the house around the start of colony 4, The file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found/ Please check the location and try again. my wife brought this to my attention, it did not bother me, but the date we now have does :) The file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found/ Please check the loc | 11:09 |
| ompaul | ation and try again. | 11:09 |
| ompaul | this happened a couple of weeks ago | 11:09 |
| ompaul | I did report it but had forgotten about it :) | 11:10 |
| rob^ | its working for me | 11:12 |
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| ompaul | rob^, hoary / breezy? | 11:12 |
| rob^ | breezy | 11:12 |
| ompaul | hmm | 11:12 |
| ompaul | so it never fixed on my box :) | 11:12 |
| rob^ | is your system up to date? | 11:13 |
| rob^ | some of those files only got added in a recent update | 11:13 |
| ompaul | up to yesterday - currently downloading | 11:13 |
| jsgotangco | mmm? | 11:13 |
| ompaul | actually ubuntu-docs is held back according to my machine | 11:13 |
| rob^ | what happens when you type the following into firefox? file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html | 11:13 |
| jsgotangco | ompaul, force it | 11:14 |
| rob^ | ompaul, thats probably the problem | 11:14 |
| rob^ | I thought jbailey was gonna fix that? | 11:14 |
| ompaul | it is the same :) | 11:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | just a tic. ill open firefox as ewll :/ mine was broken yesterday | 11:14 |
| jsgotangco | same => the ugly white page? | 11:14 |
| rob^ | yep | 11:14 |
| ompaul | well yeah | 11:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i have a plain white page | 11:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yeh | 11:15 |
| jsgotangco | Kamping_Kaiser, no text? | 11:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | got text, yeh | 11:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i was agreeing with ugly white page bit | 11:15 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 11:15 |
| ompaul | it is in bugzilla but under ff as ff was having all sorts of issues - it was the time when 1.0.7 came out and all the clever backports broke :) | 11:15 |
| jsgotangco | we're still thinking of vodoo css for it | 11:16 |
| ompaul | jsgotangco, any css will do :) | 11:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. yeh | 11:16 |
| jsgotangco | ompaul, vodoo is being considered though | 11:16 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 11:16 |
| ompaul | okay so it is in your sights, that is all I wanted to know | 11:16 |
| rob^ | grr I need access to faqguide bugs in bugzilla | 11:18 |
| jsgotangco | edit bug? | 11:18 |
| rob^ | yes | 11:19 |
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| ompaul | the reason I am saying this today is that it is my intention to wipe the machine in the next couple of days, and install the colony 6, so I wanted to make sure that it has gone away :) | 11:19 |
| rob^ | and I need to be able to have them assigned to me too | 11:19 |
| jsgotangco | give me the bug# and your bugzilla email | 11:19 |
| rob^ | 15475 | 11:20 |
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| rob^ | robbieboy@gmail.com | 11:20 |
| rob^ | hmm I love old but still working email addresses :) | 11:20 |
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| rob^ | yeah I just thought that | 11:21 |
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| rob^ | they suck alright | 11:22 |
| jsgotangco | rob^, is this really fixed? | 11:23 |
| jsgotangco | i can close this | 11:23 |
| rob^ | yes | 11:23 |
| rob^ | I'm looking at the branch, its been fixed for at least a week or two now | 11:24 |
| rob^ | its fixed in the ubuntu-docs package too | 11:24 |
| jsgotangco | rob^, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=bugs.resolution%2C+relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=Documentation&content= | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | squash em! | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | eheh | 11:25 |
| rob^ | heh, 15013 | 11:26 |
| rob^ | are problems with upstream docs our problem? | 11:30 |
| ompaul | amazing hu? no audio, killall esd results in no process killed, audio works | 11:30 |
| ompaul | ahh wrong channel :) | 11:30 |
| rob^ | jsgotangco, bug 15673, isn't this a yelp issue, not a docs issue? | 11:34 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | ping? | 02:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | are people still working on teh 'unoficial ubuntu FAQ guide' in the help ? bits are missing :/, i was wondering if they were perminant bits | 02:13 |
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| mdke | yo | 03:26 |
| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser, have you got the latest version? | 03:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mdke: i thought so, but i could be 2 days out of date ( now i think about it), because i used my isps mirror | 03:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ill try updating the docs from the master mirrors and see then | 03:27 |
| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser, well that is up to date enough | 03:27 |
| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser, the answer is: | 03:27 |
| mdke | 1) yes we work on that document | 03:27 |
| mdke | 2) we can't change it now because it is frozen | 03:27 |
| mdke | 3) file any bugs and we can fix them for the next version | 03:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok. thanks. ill (hopefully) be helping for the next version... it may end up being my problem :| | 03:28 |
| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser, by the way, are you talking about errors in the document, or missing links? | 03:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mdke: example text missing. its in the "windows partitions" bit, all the example code (how to add blah line to fstab for example) is missing on my system | 03:29 |
| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser, is there a link to the code? | 03:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i havent gone beond browsing the pages in help, so what sort of link? | 03:30 |
| mdke | like "see this example" in blue, which you can click on | 03:30 |
| mdke | or there is literally a bit missing? | 03:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no, there is literaly a bit missing | 03:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *adds to 'bugs to file' list. | 03:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | is this launchpad or bugzilla? | 03:32 |
| mdke | bugzilla | 03:32 |
| mdke | i'm not sure if that will get fixed actually | 03:32 |
| mdke | maybe it will be | 03:32 |
| mdke | if it isn't fixed in breezy, pls file the bug | 03:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok. i have a list i need to add when i work out my bugzilla ccount again, so ill add it tothat | 03:33 |
| mdke | great thanks | 03:33 |
| mdke | jbailey, awake? | 03:34 |
| jbailey | mdke: Sortof. | 03:35 |
| mdke | lol | 03:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | heh | 03:35 |
| mdke | jbailey, i have got a bit of free time, shall I make that string change? | 03:35 |
| jbailey | mdke: Sure. It seems we're in RC freeze now. =( I thought I still had today. | 03:37 |
| jbailey | Ah well. | 03:37 |
| jbailey | It'll go in post RC. | 03:37 |
| mdke | cool | 03:37 |
| mdke | jbailey, for the localised omf files, shall i delete them and rerun the script? that should regenerate them right? | 03:37 |
| jbailey | That's the theory. =) | 03:38 |
| mdke | jbailey, or is it better to do it by hand so that the localised xml files don't get touched | 03:38 |
| jbailey | If you're feeling particularily brave (since we have an extra day) we could run the poxml against the OMF files for the aboutubuntu and get that entry translated for the menu | 03:38 |
| mdke | i wouldn't know how to do that | 03:39 |
| mdke | it might require regenerating the pot template and merging the translation po files... | 03:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | im going to (gasp shock horror) try and read through ubuntus (not unoffical) guide... see if i spot anything else obvious. | 03:39 |
| mdke | jbailey, string changed and committed | 03:47 |
| jbailey | Tx | 03:47 |
| mdke | we should update the translations too... but I guess that would be against the rules | 03:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sorry about not doing this look at help before, im noticing a lot (some of which probably has bugs against it already, but ill look when i have my list) :( | 03:53 |
| mdke | np | 04:00 |
| mdke | you can fix em for next release | 04:00 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cool. | 04:01 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | btw. i have a wiki account, what else do i need to do? (join the team in a formal way i asume?) | 04:01 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | oh, im on the mail list | 04:01 |
| mdke | nope | 04:02 |
| mdke | when work is going on for dapper properly, just start submitting patches | 04:02 |
| mdke | but there is likely to be a bit of confusion until then while we work out our goals and working methods | 04:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok. well ill be around here, and im on the list, so when i can start being usefull i want to try :| | 04:03 |
| mdke | yep that would be good | 04:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thanks. | 04:04 |
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| Riddell | who is Greg Taylor and Troy Williams? | 04:25 |
| mdke | Riddell, they are people who have worked on docs | 04:28 |
| Riddell | ok cool, just checking they weren't made up :) | 04:33 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | for the record, i made it to 'hardware', but i stoped to go to bed. soi ll see you all tomorrow i hope :) | 06:25 |
| mdke | night | 06:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | nigh :) | 06:25 |
| Riddell | mdke: could you apply this patch to branches/breezy/kde http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/docs2.diff | 06:30 |
| mdke | Riddell, lemme try | 06:32 |
| mdke | Riddell, what command am I using? | 06:33 |
| mdke | (sorry) | 06:33 |
| Riddell | mdke: don't worry, jjesse is back from lunch | 06:34 |
| mdke | Riddell, ok | 06:35 |
| jjesse | hey Riddell thanks for applying the style sheet that looks a heck of a lot better then what i did | 07:02 |
| jjesse | everyone else should check out the new kreleasenotes | 07:02 |
| Riddell | jjesse: they'll need to install kdelibs to do so :) | 07:03 |
| Kinnison | ciao all | 07:03 |
| jjesse | Riddell: or just svn up and build krn | 07:03 |
| jjesse | right? | 07:03 |
| Riddell | well it needs a stylesheet from kdelibs | 07:03 |
| jjesse | ah | 07:03 |
| Riddell | if they want to see the HTML | 07:03 |
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| ompaul | that docs error I was talking about several hours ago :"The file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found. Please check the location and try again." the message coming from a browser. I have paid more attention getting the last batch of updates and Update Mangler suggests that I use Synaptic Smart Upgrade or Distupgrade for ubuntu-docs, your opinion on if this is of value or just do the upgrade like the nice soft | 07:55 |
| ompaul | ware is telling me :) | 07:55 |
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| jjesse | ompaul sorry i think i'm the only one at the keys and i use kubuntu | 08:25 |
| ompaul | jjesse, np, I have hours :) | 08:26 |
| ompaul | jjesse, its not really the kind of question I expected an answer in #ubuntu about ;-) | 08:26 |
| mdke | ompaul, that bug is fixed in the last ubuntu-docs | 08:29 |
| ompaul | mdke, so I should ignore the ubuntu-docs is held back and install it | 08:30 |
| mdke | ompaul, up to you | 08:31 |
| ompaul | mdke, done :) | 08:35 |
| ompaul | test in a min when it gets downloaded | 08:35 |
| mdke | i can guarantee that the file is there | 08:36 |
| mdke | it was fixed a couple of days ago | 08:36 |
| ompaul | Unpacking replacement ubuntu-docs .. | 08:37 |
| ompaul | mdke, what was getting me was it was telling me distupgrade / smart upgrade I would have thought that it should not have said that, but I don't know enough about apt | 08:38 |
| mdke | me neither | 08:38 |
| mdke | you'll need to dist-upgrade a few times while running the development release though | 08:39 |
| ompaul | :) | 08:39 |
| mdke | after release, it will be ok | 08:39 |
| jjesse | mdke is jbailey making the doc packages for kubuntu? | 09:00 |
| mdke | dunno | 09:01 |
| mdke | i think Riddell is doing it | 09:01 |
| jjesse | probablly | 09:01 |
| jjesse | i know jbailey mentioned something aobut it yesterday | 09:01 |
| jjesse | are we going to create a wiki page that is kubuntu release notes? we already have a breezy release notes | 09:10 |
| jjesse | but was just wondering about kubuntu release notes page | 09:10 |
| ompaul | mdke, okay that worked, all I need to do now is get the artwork for said page, but I guess that is not out until the badger gets released | 09:28 |
| jbailey | jjesse: It wasn't clear to me who was doing it. | 09:47 |
| jjesse | jbailey: me either that's why i was asking | 10:06 |
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