=== bhuvan [n=ubuntu@nat1.sp.collab.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=ubuntu@nat1.sp.collab.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === jjesse [n=trillian@69-87-140-130.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:11] evening whoever is hanging out at the keys :) [03:23] looks like i'm the only one [03:23] yo [03:24] hello HrdwrBob === jjesse [n=trillian@69-87-140-130.async.iserv.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-47-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Karl@ppp217-248.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === HrdwrBoB [n=matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === segfault [i=carlos@prognus.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:40] salut jsgotangco [07:40] jsgotangco, I may have to hand off the quicktour for dapper [07:41] Burgundavia, oh any reason why? [07:42] jsgotangco, basically I my new job at Userful and Ubuntu stuff might collide [07:42] currently I am doing no doc work [07:42] ahh understood [07:42] until I get something in writing from Userful about copyright, etc. [07:42] what needs to be done on the quicktour now? [07:42] just screenshots [07:43] hrmmmm [07:43] i guess its pretty safe to do screenshots now [07:43] yes [07:43] since we're already locked for RC [07:43] I have started on my laptop, but didn't get them done by Sunday [07:43] I might be being paranoid, but I would rather be sure [07:44] sure corey don't worry about it too much [07:44] im sure we'll come up with something good during UBZ [07:44] I know the feeling...everything I do during the day at work is technically owned by the Queen of England... [07:44] I am already cleared to go to UBZ, which is good [07:45] robitaille, but the queen of england is also the queen of canada... === Burgundavia doesn't know if he should be pleased that Useful views Ubuntu as a possible competitor or not [07:45] robitaille, no, copyright is owned by the Queen of Canada, who happens also to be the Queen of various smaller places too... ;) [07:46] MadpilotPPC, I know. Actually we just say it is owned by the crown. [07:46] robitaille, the Queen of Canada is a seperate legal entity to the Queen of England === robitaille reminds himself to get a picture of the queen to put in his office one of these days :) [07:47] at the end of the day it doesn't matter: I don't own the stuff [07:47] if i move to victoria i need to have a picture of the queen in my house? [07:47] jsgotangco, no! [07:47] ahh goodie [07:48] a statue will be enough :) [07:48] gyahhh [07:48] jsgotangco, yes. And newcomers to victoria are also required to go to High Tea at the Empress at least once ;) [07:48] jsgotangco, 5' minimum, in the front lawn === jsgotangco crosses off victoria [07:49] you can install a statue of Queen Victoria if the current model doesn't suit you, though [07:51] wow...all my recent documents are gone from gnome-panel after tonight's updates. I wonder if that's a bug [07:51] robitaille, hmm, open another doc, they reappear [07:52] Burgundavia, yep; they did. confused me for a second there [07:53] hummm 11pm...and still many slides to prepare for my ubuntu/foss talk on Thursday. [07:53] another long evening coming up... [07:54] robitaille, where you speaking? [07:56] jsgotangco, at work. We have an internal seminars series every week, and I try to give a 1-hour talk every year. this time around, I decided to sell foss and ubuntu to my coworkers :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:35] morning [08:35] hey mdke [08:37] jsgotangco, you never answered my /query yesterday :/ === Burgundavia needs to sleep, 12 hours tomorrow [08:37] mdke, of? [08:38] i didnt see any PM [08:38] hmm [08:39] oh well, i'll try again then === dand [n=dand@gw.datagroup.ro] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@bl5-44-193.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:57] mdke, where do you suggest to put the doc bug in then? === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:02] hi enrico =) [10:03] jsgotangco: hi [10:10] how's life treating you? good i hope === sivang [n=sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@212.2.179.86] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:09] Hi, this falls somewhere between devs and docs, so I'll throw it in here for what its worth, I upgraded the two machines in the house around the start of colony 4, The file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found/ Please check the location and try again. my wife brought this to my attention, it did not bother me, but the date we now have does :) The file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found/ Please check the loc [11:09] ation and try again. [11:09] this happened a couple of weeks ago [11:10] I did report it but had forgotten about it :) [11:12] its working for me === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:12] rob^, hoary / breezy? [11:12] breezy [11:12] hmm [11:12] so it never fixed on my box :) [11:13] is your system up to date? [11:13] some of those files only got added in a recent update [11:13] up to yesterday - currently downloading [11:13] mmm? [11:13] actually ubuntu-docs is held back according to my machine [11:13] what happens when you type the following into firefox? file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html [11:14] ompaul, force it [11:14] ompaul, thats probably the problem [11:14] I thought jbailey was gonna fix that? [11:14] it is the same :) [11:14] just a tic. ill open firefox as ewll :/ mine was broken yesterday [11:14] same => the ugly white page? [11:14] yep [11:14] well yeah [11:15] i have a plain white page [11:15] yeh [11:15] Kamping_Kaiser, no text? [11:15] got text, yeh [11:15] i was agreeing with ugly white page bit [11:15] yes [11:15] it is in bugzilla but under ff as ff was having all sorts of issues - it was the time when 1.0.7 came out and all the clever backports broke :) [11:16] we're still thinking of vodoo css for it [11:16] jsgotangco, any css will do :) [11:16] lol. yeh [11:16] ompaul, vodoo is being considered though [11:16] heh [11:16] okay so it is in your sights, that is all I wanted to know [11:18] grr I need access to faqguide bugs in bugzilla [11:18] edit bug? [11:19] yes === n1c0las [n=niklas@beryl.wknl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:19] the reason I am saying this today is that it is my intention to wipe the machine in the next couple of days, and install the colony 6, so I wanted to make sure that it has gone away :) [11:19] and I need to be able to have them assigned to me too [11:19] give me the bug# and your bugzilla email [11:20] 15475 === ompaul goes to find it (if I can) [11:20] robbieboy@gmail.com [11:20] hmm I love old but still working email addresses :) === ompaul is tempted to say /nick spambotcollectorgeneral - all your addresses is belong to us! [11:21] yeah I just thought that === ompaul has a pathological hatred of spammers and phishers [11:22] they suck alright [11:23] rob^, is this really fixed? [11:23] i can close this [11:23] yes [11:24] I'm looking at the branch, its been fixed for at least a week or two now [11:24] its fixed in the ubuntu-docs package too [11:25] rob^, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=bugs.resolution%2C+relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=Documentation&content= [11:25] squash em! [11:25] eheh [11:26] heh, 15013 [11:30] are problems with upstream docs our problem? [11:30] amazing hu? no audio, killall esd results in no process killed, audio works [11:30] ahh wrong channel :) [11:34] jsgotangco, bug 15673, isn't this a yelp issue, not a docs issue? === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Karl@ppp210-102.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:12] ping? [02:13] are people still working on teh 'unoficial ubuntu FAQ guide' in the help ? bits are missing :/, i was wondering if they were perminant bits === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:26] yo [03:26] Kamping_Kaiser, have you got the latest version? [03:27] mdke: i thought so, but i could be 2 days out of date ( now i think about it), because i used my isps mirror [03:27] ill try updating the docs from the master mirrors and see then [03:27] Kamping_Kaiser, well that is up to date enough [03:27] Kamping_Kaiser, the answer is: [03:27] 1) yes we work on that document [03:27] 2) we can't change it now because it is frozen [03:27] 3) file any bugs and we can fix them for the next version [03:28] ok. thanks. ill (hopefully) be helping for the next version... it may end up being my problem :| [03:28] Kamping_Kaiser, by the way, are you talking about errors in the document, or missing links? [03:29] mdke: example text missing. its in the "windows partitions" bit, all the example code (how to add blah line to fstab for example) is missing on my system [03:29] Kamping_Kaiser, is there a link to the code? [03:30] i havent gone beond browsing the pages in help, so what sort of link? [03:30] like "see this example" in blue, which you can click on [03:31] or there is literally a bit missing? [03:31] no, there is literaly a bit missing [03:31] *adds to 'bugs to file' list. [03:32] is this launchpad or bugzilla? [03:32] bugzilla [03:32] i'm not sure if that will get fixed actually [03:32] maybe it will be [03:32] if it isn't fixed in breezy, pls file the bug [03:33] ok. i have a list i need to add when i work out my bugzilla ccount again, so ill add it tothat [03:33] great thanks [03:34] jbailey, awake? [03:35] mdke: Sortof. [03:35] lol [03:35] heh [03:35] jbailey, i have got a bit of free time, shall I make that string change? [03:37] mdke: Sure. It seems we're in RC freeze now. =( I thought I still had today. [03:37] Ah well. [03:37] It'll go in post RC. [03:37] cool [03:37] jbailey, for the localised omf files, shall i delete them and rerun the script? that should regenerate them right? [03:38] That's the theory. =) [03:38] jbailey, or is it better to do it by hand so that the localised xml files don't get touched [03:38] If you're feeling particularily brave (since we have an extra day) we could run the poxml against the OMF files for the aboutubuntu and get that entry translated for the menu [03:39] i wouldn't know how to do that [03:39] it might require regenerating the pot template and merging the translation po files... [03:39] im going to (gasp shock horror) try and read through ubuntus (not unoffical) guide... see if i spot anything else obvious. [03:47] jbailey, string changed and committed [03:47] Tx [03:48] we should update the translations too... but I guess that would be against the rules [03:53] sorry about not doing this look at help before, im noticing a lot (some of which probably has bugs against it already, but ill look when i have my list) :( [04:00] np [04:00] you can fix em for next release [04:01] cool. [04:01] btw. i have a wiki account, what else do i need to do? (join the team in a formal way i asume?) [04:01] oh, im on the mail list [04:02] nope [04:02] when work is going on for dapper properly, just start submitting patches [04:02] but there is likely to be a bit of confusion until then while we work out our goals and working methods [04:03] ok. well ill be around here, and im on the list, so when i can start being usefull i want to try :| [04:03] yep that would be good [04:04] thanks. === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jbailey_ [n=jbailey@testhaus.cns.utoronto.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:25] who is Greg Taylor and Troy Williams? [04:28] Riddell, they are people who have worked on docs [04:33] ok cool, just checking they weren't made up :) === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === wjllywonka [n=anna@host226-5.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === wjllywonka [n=anna@host226-5.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Sto] [06:25] for the record, i made it to 'hardware', but i stoped to go to bed. soi ll see you all tomorrow i hope :) [06:25] night [06:25] nigh :) [06:30] mdke: could you apply this patch to branches/breezy/kde http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/docs2.diff [06:32] Riddell, lemme try [06:33] Riddell, what command am I using? [06:33] (sorry) [06:34] mdke: don't worry, jjesse is back from lunch [06:35] Riddell, ok [07:02] hey Riddell thanks for applying the style sheet that looks a heck of a lot better then what i did [07:02] everyone else should check out the new kreleasenotes [07:03] jjesse: they'll need to install kdelibs to do so :) [07:03] ciao all [07:03] Riddell: or just svn up and build krn [07:03] right? [07:03] well it needs a stylesheet from kdelibs [07:03] ah [07:03] if they want to see the HTML === robitaille [n=robitail@p238-121.public.uvic.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-183-114.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=ubuntu@nat1.sp.collab.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=ubuntu@nat1.sp.collab.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [07:55] that docs error I was talking about several hours ago :"The file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found. Please check the location and try again." the message coming from a browser. I have paid more attention getting the last batch of updates and Update Mangler suggests that I use Synaptic Smart Upgrade or Distupgrade for ubuntu-docs, your opinion on if this is of value or just do the upgrade like the nice soft [07:55] ware is telling me :) === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:25] ompaul sorry i think i'm the only one at the keys and i use kubuntu [08:26] jjesse, np, I have hours :) [08:26] jjesse, its not really the kind of question I expected an answer in #ubuntu about ;-) [08:29] ompaul, that bug is fixed in the last ubuntu-docs [08:30] mdke, so I should ignore the ubuntu-docs is held back and install it [08:31] ompaul, up to you [08:35] mdke, done :) [08:35] test in a min when it gets downloaded [08:36] i can guarantee that the file is there [08:36] it was fixed a couple of days ago [08:37] Unpacking replacement ubuntu-docs .. [08:38] mdke, what was getting me was it was telling me distupgrade / smart upgrade I would have thought that it should not have said that, but I don't know enough about apt [08:38] me neither [08:39] you'll need to dist-upgrade a few times while running the development release though [08:39] :) [08:39] after release, it will be ok [09:00] mdke is jbailey making the doc packages for kubuntu? [09:01] dunno [09:01] i think Riddell is doing it [09:01] probablly [09:01] i know jbailey mentioned something aobut it yesterday [09:10] are we going to create a wiki page that is kubuntu release notes? we already have a breezy release notes [09:10] but was just wondering about kubuntu release notes page [09:28] mdke, okay that worked, all I need to do now is get the artwork for said page, but I guess that is not out until the badger gets released [09:47] jjesse: It wasn't clear to me who was doing it. 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