| doko | fabbione: with a amd64-k8-smp kernel, the keyboard gets very unresponsive, when the machine is under normal load (two processes, regular disk I/O). when typing I get some characters twice or triple | 12:36 |
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| fabbione | lucky you!!!! | 12:37 |
| fabbione | you don't need to type as much as i do to get the same crap | 12:37 |
| fabbione | doko: you better try 2.6.10 and see if the problem is there too | 12:37 |
| doko | heh ... rebooting to hoary doesn't show tis | 12:37 |
| fabbione | also.. file a bug.. it's unlikely we will even attempt to fix it for breezy | 12:38 |
| fabbione | if you boot 2.6.12 non-smp, does it work? | 12:38 |
| doko | no | 12:38 |
| fabbione | so it's generic .12 for you.. | 12:38 |
| fabbione | i am running amd64-k8 here | 12:38 |
| fabbione | no problems.. | 12:38 |
| fabbione | it might be your keyboard is shy | 12:38 |
| doko | yes, mostly seen when removing a build tree (on a RAID-0 xfs fs) and typing in another window. | 12:39 |
| doko | your disks are too slow ... | 12:39 |
| fabbione | or too fast | 12:39 |
| fabbione | it sounds like an IRQ problem.. | 12:39 |
| fabbione | meh xfs. | 12:40 |
| fabbione | why on earth do you use that crap.... | 12:40 |
| fabbione | doko: does your mobo support APIC? | 12:40 |
| fabbione | if so try to turn it off | 12:40 |
| fabbione | or boot with noapic | 12:40 |
| fabbione | i had problems on mine | 12:40 |
| fabbione | but like yours.. | 12:41 |
| fabbione | mine was crashing hard | 12:41 |
| doko | ok, will try, currently OOo2 help is building ... | 12:41 |
| fabbione | ok.. | 12:41 |
| fabbione | just don't upload gcc anymore | 12:42 |
| fabbione | or i will kill you | 12:42 |
| fabbione | sparc is bootable and it can even install | 12:42 |
| fabbione | you so much don't want me upset after breezy release :P | 12:42 |
| fabbione | do you? ;) | 12:42 |
| fabbione | anyway.. i was just kidding... about the "kill you"... | 12:43 |
| fabbione | i will eat you alive :P | 12:43 |
| fabbione | later | 12:44 |
| doko | see you | 12:44 |
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| KRavEN | anyone in? I had some questions on using the rules file to build from source | 03:02 |
| fabbione | KRavEN: just ask | 03:04 |
| fabbione | somebody will answer | 03:04 |
| KRavEN | well, I trimmed down my config quite a bit and i have it building jsut fine, I was just wondering if there was an easier way to get it to complete the debian/rules binary-udebs than to edit each file in debian/d-i/shared to comment out the unused modules | 03:08 |
| KRavEN | also having to go through and delete all the files that have empty categories | 03:08 |
| fabbione | no there is no way | 03:08 |
| KRavEN | I saw you talking abotu something similar in an old weblog | 03:09 |
| fabbione | if you change configs and modules | 03:09 |
| fabbione | you need to update the udeb files | 03:09 |
| fabbione | no otherway around that | 03:09 |
| KRavEN | was hoping there was a script that would take th eoutput from the install modules and then build the correct shared links | 03:09 |
| KRavEN | okay, thaks | 03:09 |
| fabbione | no | 03:10 |
| fabbione | you can't do it automatically | 03:10 |
| fabbione | because there is no mapping between modules name/position and their scope | 03:10 |
| KRavEN | nice work on breezy btw, I'm very happy with it for the last month since I moved from hoary | 03:13 |
| dilinger | i need to fix my breezy box, it stopped booting after a kernel upgrade :/ | 03:14 |
| KRavEN | heh. forgot to keep an old one in grub? | 03:14 |
| dilinger | no, the old one's around, but grub ignores my usb keyboard | 03:14 |
| KRavEN | ahh, damn old bios | 03:15 |
| dilinger | and i don't have a ps2 keyboard unpacked | 03:15 |
| KRavEN | sometimes screwing wit the bios usb KB settings will fix it | 03:15 |
| KRavEN | depeding on the bios | 03:15 |
| fabbione | dilinger: yo | 03:16 |
| fabbione | KRavEN: thanks | 03:16 |
| KRavEN | heh, I can feel your pain, i have a MB that has no ps2 ports at all | 03:20 |
| KRavEN | is there any way to get it to spit out all its complaints before erroring out? like after the copy-modules and the find-dups? | 03:27 |
| KRavEN | got copy modules done by exporting the sourcedir and then just doing the kernel-wedge copy-modules repeatedly until I got them all but I cant do the same with fidn-dups | 03:28 |
| fabbione | no you need to solve one problem at a time | 03:28 |
| dilinger | fabbione: hey | 03:33 |
| dilinger | fabbione: will the schedules for ubz be known in advance? | 03:33 |
| fabbione | dilinger: you mean the specific BOFs sessions? | 03:33 |
| dilinger | yea | 03:33 |
| fabbione | or just the general schedule? | 03:33 |
| fabbione | no ide | 03:33 |
| fabbione | a | 03:33 |
| dilinger | if there's a kernel BOF, i'd like to be around for it | 03:33 |
| fabbione | i think they are trying to use LP for it | 03:34 |
| fabbione | but i am not sure what's the status tbh | 03:34 |
| dilinger | LP? | 03:34 |
| fabbione | dilinger: i will let you know.. stay tuned | 03:34 |
| fabbione | Launchpad | 03:34 |
| dilinger | ok | 03:34 |
| fabbione | we planned a kernel bof | 03:34 |
| fabbione | and i added another one | 03:34 |
| fabbione | to evaluate other directions | 03:35 |
| fabbione | like a more conservative kernel for the 5 years server support | 03:35 |
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| dilinger | 5 years? that sounds like a security nightmare :) | 03:42 |
| fabbione | dilinger: 5 for servers 3 for desktop | 03:45 |
| KRavEN | does that require you never do a kernel revision? | 03:47 |
| KRavEN | like to a new version | 03:47 |
| fabbione | KRavEN: once a kernel is in stable.. it's only security updates | 03:49 |
| fabbione | so no new versions | 03:49 |
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| KRavEN | is there a trick to getting the restricted modules to build? doesnt seem to like the linux-headers | 04:16 |
| fabbione | KRavEN: we can't ensure that lrm will built with custom kernels | 04:16 |
| KRavEN | ahh | 04:16 |
| fabbione | you might want to check debian/control.stub | 04:16 |
| fabbione | and stuff like that | 04:16 |
| KRavEN | yeah, I edited that to what shoudl work but I get a lot of no such file or directory warnings for include files, ill keep looking | 04:17 |
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| fabbione | hey BenC | 05:26 |
| BenC | hey | 05:28 |
| BenC | thanks for the upload in my absense | 05:28 |
| fabbione | i did no upload | 05:30 |
| fabbione | i have one pending | 05:30 |
| fabbione | please let's keep it there as it is | 05:30 |
| fabbione | there is a security issue and several sparc fixes | 05:30 |
| BenC | "I did no" == "I did one"? | 05:31 |
| fabbione | i did no uploads | 05:31 |
| fabbione | i have one pending with .22 | 05:31 |
| BenC | I got an upload notification for .21 | 05:31 |
| fabbione | they are all lamont work :) | 05:31 |
| BenC | ah | 05:32 |
| BenC | I read the changelog wrong | 05:32 |
| lamont__ | twas a bad start-of-week | 05:32 |
| BenC | lamont: everything good with ia64 now? | 05:32 |
| lamont__ | I think so | 05:33 |
| BenC | is ia64 a supported arch for breezy? | 05:33 |
| fabbione | nope | 05:33 |
| lamont__ | need to retest, but at least we have a kernel. | 05:33 |
| BenC | sweet | 05:33 |
| lamont__ | not canonical-supported, that's true | 05:33 |
| BenC | installable ia64 cd's now? | 05:33 |
| lamont__ | should be | 05:33 |
| lamont__ | although I think you want the RCC | 05:33 |
| lamont__ | which should be RSN | 05:33 |
| BenC | netboot? | 05:33 |
| lamont__ | trick is to make sure that the kernel you have is -9.21 | 05:33 |
| lamont__ | netboot should "just work" - completely untested | 05:34 |
| lamont__ | -20 was a netboot-only kernel, since IDE was completely fubar | 05:34 |
| lamont__ | and really uninteresting on ide-hdd machines | 05:34 |
| BenC | I think my i2k is scsi | 05:35 |
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| lamont__ | hppa live is, well, mada | 05:36 |
| fabbione | BenC: are you good with the changes in .22?? | 05:47 |
| fabbione | they are all tested | 05:47 |
| BenC | yes | 05:52 |
| BenC | any reason we don't have CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND enabled? | 05:52 |
| BenC | bug 12310 claims it fixes his crashing when resuming with USB mouse installed | 05:53 |
| fabbione | BenC: it was marked as highly experimental | 05:53 |
| fabbione | so we can probably turn it on for dapper | 05:53 |
| lamont__ | BenC: current breezy live ia64 is not happy, need to wait for the new builds that I think Kamion is making now | 05:54 |
| BenC | ok | 05:54 |
| BenC | the usb controllers seem to use the same code for CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND as it does for CONFIG_PM | 06:02 |
| BenC | but the usb core takes extra steps like suspending devices when CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND is enabled | 06:03 |
| fabbione | BenC: in any case we so much don't want to test that now :) | 06:04 |
| BenC | yeah, just wishing we could | 06:08 |
| BenC | lot of usb/resume related bugs | 06:08 |
| fabbione | yeah | 06:10 |
| fabbione | though luck | 06:10 |
| crimsun | fabbione: will .22 be uploaded post-RC? | 07:19 |
| fabbione | crimsun: yes.. RC is now | 07:20 |
| crimsun | fabbione: ok, thanks. I've uploaded a dpatch for #15031 that should really be in Breezy, since it prevents an OOPS on boot. | 07:21 |
| fabbione | looking in a sec | 07:25 |
| fabbione | crimsun: no | 07:45 |
| fabbione | we are not going to apply that patch | 07:45 |
| fabbione | not for breezy at least | 07:45 |
| crimsun | fabbione: all right. | 07:45 |
| fabbione | it's just too intrusive | 07:46 |
| crimsun | indeed | 07:46 |
| fabbione | 87K of changes.. i will get mdz hang us on a cross and burn us alive | 07:46 |
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| crimsun | ugh, that alc880 is a beast. It's the only one that's OOPSing on boot - all the other codecs with the Intel HDA work just fine. | 07:50 |
| fabbione | though luck | 07:53 |
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| zul | blah..sendmail | 07:54 |
| jbailey | I like sendmali | 08:12 |
| jbailey | Sendmail is cuddly. | 08:12 |
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| zul | sendmail is a beast that should be put down | 08:49 |
| jbailey | Whyever for? | 08:55 |
| jbailey | It's simply to configure. | 08:55 |
| jbailey | It's fast. | 08:55 |
| jbailey | It's well used. | 08:55 |
| jbailey | And in a pinch, you can make it do *anything* | 08:58 |
| zul | bleah..not when you have bad experiences with it | 09:09 |
| zul | must...watch...hockey | 09:13 |
| jbailey | Really? | 09:45 |
| jbailey | I know few people with bad experiences with sendmail | 09:45 |
| jbailey | Or at least, few people who haven't done something silly like try to edit sendmail.cf directly. =) | 09:45 |
| jbailey | But that's like editting your gnome configs by using hexedit on the binaries. | 09:46 |
| fabbione | why not? | 09:46 |
| fabbione | you don't like the fun? | 09:46 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Dude. | 09:46 |
| jbailey | fabbione: I enjoy the fun of editting binaries with a hex editor. =) | 09:46 |
| fabbione | ehhe | 09:46 |
| jbailey | But the canonical way of doing it is editting the sendmail.mc file. =) | 09:46 |
| fabbione | given that old admin did left one | 09:48 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Well, it depends how ugly the old admin's changes were. | 10:59 |
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