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Ubugtu | Bad chan: #ubuntu-meeting | 01:24 |
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Seveas | Couldn't resist writing python at midnight :) | 01:25 |
FLeiXiuS | brb | 01:28 |
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JaneW | **Reminder** 5 mins to Edubuntu Update Meeting i | 01:54 |
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flint | JJane is too damn eary | 02:00 |
flint | sorry Janew are you floating arount here? | 02:00 |
JaneW | hi flint | 02:00 |
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flint | you are a mean woman...I need my beauty rest! | 02:01 |
JaneW | hehehe | 02:01 |
flint | morning ollie! | 02:01 |
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ogra | flint, come on, youre beautiful enough | 02:01 |
flint | elkner just woke me up with a call from his classroom | 02:02 |
JaneW | flint: actually I was thinking of moving the meeting forward 2 hours, would you prefer that? | 02:02 |
flint | he is operating smoothly and is content with the pix fix that Jane and you suggested Ollie. | 02:03 |
flint | no...ok yea! | 02:03 |
JaneW | flint: glad to hear it :)) | 02:03 |
JaneW | ok let's get this show on the road | 02:03 |
flint | jane 2 hours + will place it at your nap time, What good would that do? | 02:04 |
ogra | no jsgotango ? | 02:04 |
JaneW | hehe, no 2 hours forward is 10UCT (12:00pm here) | 02:04 |
JaneW | apartently he is at Burger King | 02:05 |
ogra | hmm | 02:05 |
flint | ah another floater... | 02:05 |
JaneW | so it's the 3 of us? | 02:05 |
ogra | looks like | 02:05 |
JaneW | well the main victory of this week was getting rid of JessicaX^ | 02:05 |
flint | I am humble in the presence of such power... | 02:05 |
ogra | i already sent my weekl report to jane, but will post it again here | 02:05 |
JaneW | ogra: flood away | 02:06 |
ogra | Serious blocker bugs we have: | 02:06 |
ogra | - #12942 - NFS timeout * solved !!! | 02:06 |
ogra | not *this serious* | 02:06 |
ogra | - #15244 - logins timeout if you try to relogin within the minute you logged out | 02:06 |
ogra | open LTSP bugs: | 02:06 |
ogra | - ltsp-server postinst needs to generate the dhcp.conf file dynamically according to the selected IP adress | 02:06 |
ogra | (currently the most important bug we have, makes the install fail if a wrong IP range was selected) | 02:06 |
JaneW | ogra: it;s up in the meeting notes already too | 02:06 |
ogra | - PATH variable doesnt contain the /usr/games PATH | 02:06 |
ogra | cosmetic LTSP bugs: | 02:06 |
ogra | - Locale selection in the login manager need fixing or must be ripped out | 02:06 |
ogra | (could get ripped out since it will use the server locale by default) | 02:06 |
ogra | - Session selection in the login manager need fixing or must be ripped out | 02:06 |
ogra | (we dont have sessions yet so the latter is the best option) | 02:06 |
ogra | open Installer Bugs (all cosmetic): | 02:06 |
ogra | - error message about IP selesction | 02:06 |
ogra | - ltsp-client-builder.udeb progress reporting is missing (removing the progressbar and adding a text will do here) | 02:06 |
ogra | open Extra bugs: | 02:06 |
ogra | - one small xscreensaver bug where screensavers start in random mode where they shouldnt start at all | 02:06 |
ogra | (can be worked around by not selecting random mode, but should better be fixed) | 02:06 |
ogra | - artwork must be packaged new, the mozilla homepage (about edubuntu) handling changed completely, fixing this will get | 02:06 |
ogra | very tricky since we cant cover all translations and will have to replace them *all* with the same page i have no | 02:06 |
ogra | idea how to solve that yet and didnt know it was planned. | 02:06 |
ogra | - i decided to disable all sound components for now since we dont support sound on the thin clients and it will confuse | 02:06 |
ogra | the users (soundserver and volume control in the panel) needs to be added to the artwork package | 02:06 |
ogra | Package bugs (not solved due to xscreensaver hacking, ajmitch took over but getting it past mdz on the CD at | 02:06 |
ogra | this point seems hard (but not impossible)): | 02:06 |
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ogra | - moodle www-config-common bug | 02:06 |
ogra | - moodle security bug needs upgrade to v1.5.1 | 02:07 |
ogra | CDs: | 02:07 |
ogra | - the powerpc CD now exploded completely (17MB to big), i'm not yet sure what to rip out from it to make it usable, sugestions for not needed package | 02:07 |
ogra | - due to a broken acpi-support package in ubuntu todays daily isnt installable on all arches. | 02:07 |
ogra | ------------------- | 02:07 |
ogra | gcompris is fixed completely, upstream tested it and thanked for the fixing :) | 02:07 |
ogra | i was mainly busy with sabdfl's xscreensaver whishes last week... over the weekend i fixed gcompris... | 02:07 |
JaneW | nod, you have been very busy | 02:07 |
JaneW | and productive | 02:07 |
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mhz | moin | 02:08 |
JaneW | hi mhz | 02:08 |
flint | damn... | 02:08 |
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ogra | currently my greates drawback is that i still had no time to work on my bazaar skills, but mdz doesnt accept patches to ltsp anymore... | 02:08 |
ogra | else the ltsp stuff would be fixed today :/ | 02:08 |
flint | mdz is a weenie | 02:08 |
JaneW | ogra: has mdz seen edubuntu yet? | 02:08 |
ogra | JaneW, no idea, he knows toutstanding he ltsp problems... | 02:09 |
ogra | *the outstanding | 02:09 |
flint | I would opine that he is buzy with the final coat of paint on breezy | 02:09 |
JaneW | what can be done? | 02:09 |
flint | jane, what you have is releasable. | 02:09 |
mhz | JaneW: and all of you: I am sorry, but I do have to go to a meeting (about Gov. and its tries to implement IT on education). When will the final Ubuntu Cd covers be ok? | 02:09 |
ogra | JaneW, nothing except me learning bazaar to get the fixes merged | 02:09 |
ogra | but it wont be ready for RC i fear | 02:10 |
JaneW | mhz: I am waiting for them.... | 02:10 |
JaneW | mhz: I ask again today and will mail you as soon as we have something | 02:10 |
mhz | edu-cool! | 02:10 |
mhz | :) | 02:10 |
ogra | flint, it isnt as long as the dhcp.conf generation is missing | 02:10 |
ogra | flint, if you select a different IP in the installer, the install fails at the end | 02:11 |
flint | that dhcp.conf just means that you have only one range to use, the 192.168.1.whatever i thought. | 02:11 |
ogra | thast not releasable | 02:11 |
mhz | Again, I am very sorry I have to leave. Best regards to ALL of you and hope you get enlightened enough to work and be happy at the same time :D | 02:11 |
mhz | by! | 02:12 |
mhz | bye! | 02:12 |
ogra | flint, yes, but people select other ranges at the beginning of the install are bitten | 02:12 |
flint | ollie keep in mind how pissed off I was that I culd not weedle the lotr patch in. | 02:12 |
JaneW | adios | 02:12 |
flint | thanks mhz | 02:12 |
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ogra | flint, its release critical imho... your change was cosmetic, but the lort login works at least | 02:12 |
flint | okey dokey, but we share a common goal, getting this stuff on the CD. What ho Joan (Jane) of Arc? | 02:13 |
ogra | flint, yes, but installer issues are way more important | 02:14 |
flint | ollie you are a poet broken is lort fixed is lotr... | 02:14 |
ogra | :) | 02:15 |
flint | mdz will argue that a fixed non routable dhcp ip stanza is fine... (BTW I am not trying to piss you off :^) Just being a devils advocate... | 02:15 |
JaneW | jsgotangco was complaining that no one is helping (collaborating) on the docs on the wiki | 02:15 |
ogra | flint, it prevents edubuntu-server from being installed | 02:15 |
ogra | its not a routing prob | 02:15 |
flint | I would imaging that acerbic comment is directed at me jane... :^) send me a nag email. | 02:16 |
flint | ...and you have to go and edit the dhcp.conf file manually. right olllie? | 02:16 |
ogra | JaneW, i'm complaining that i have to redo edubuntu-artwork because nobody notified the changes in the default firefoix homepage... | 02:16 |
JaneW | ogra: can you explain that a bit | 02:17 |
JaneW | I am not sure I understand the issue | 02:17 |
ogra | flint, yes, and afterwards you have to reinstall every single package edubuntu-server depends on manually | 02:17 |
ogra | JaneW, last week th default omepage (click the house in firefox to see it) was moved out of ubuntu-artwork and into ubuntu-docs... | 02:18 |
ogra | thats no prob so far | 02:18 |
flint | in practice you can run with the edited dhcp.conf file ok. | 02:18 |
ogra | JaneW, but the new page gets set by language packs to the translated version now... which means we have 90 different versions of it | 02:18 |
ogra | in different locations | 02:18 |
flint | Ladies and gentlemen, I feel need to unlock from the breezy release, or have network based patches. | 02:19 |
ogra | so if you have edubuntu-artwork installed (which exchanges the default page with about-edubuntu) and install a language pack afterwards, it gets overwritten with the localized about-ubuntu page | 02:19 |
ogra | flint, thats technically not possible | 02:20 |
JaneW | ogra: oic! | 02:20 |
ogra | mdz already explained that | 02:20 |
JaneW | ogra: I always change my default home page immediately ;) | 02:20 |
ogra | JaneW, my prob is that i havent palnned a minute to touch -artwork again, but its a big prob i dont know how to solve yet | 02:21 |
JaneW | ogra: why was it moved? | 02:21 |
flint | the network based patch thing is. you built one ollie... | 02:21 |
ogra | JaneW, ask the -doc team... its was a surprise for me when jdub removed the page from ubuntu-artwork.... | 02:21 |
ogra | JaneW, diziet was bitten by it as well (ff maintainer), but for him its solved... | 02:22 |
JaneW | so what do we have to do? | 02:22 |
flint | kids the issue appears we will need to patch any actual installation of edubuntu if we cannot change the release cd. Is that it? | 02:23 |
JaneW | move ours out of the artwork package too? | 02:23 |
ogra | JaneW, nope | 02:23 |
ogra | JaneW, it doesnt matter in which package the page is | 02:23 |
ogra | if it gets overwritten by langpack changes .... | 02:23 |
flint | I get it. the langpack and the actual pages are not quite synced up. | 02:24 |
JaneW | so we'd need our own lang packs!? | 02:24 |
ogra | the prob is that we dont have 90 versions of the page... and that i cant make sure all occurences of it get replaced with ours | 02:24 |
ogra | that would be a solution but not in this timeframe | 02:24 |
JaneW | right, do we have any translations of about edubuntu | 02:24 |
JaneW | ? | 02:24 |
ogra | nope | 02:25 |
ogra | not to my knowledge | 02:25 |
JaneW | can we force the english page to stay there? | 02:25 |
ogra | ut we cant prevent localization | 02:25 |
ogra | nope | 02:25 |
ogra | not as its designed now | 02:25 |
JaneW | is there any solution? | 02:25 |
JaneW | and how NB is it? | 02:26 |
ogra | NB ? | 02:26 |
JaneW | what is there's a link on each about ubuntu page to the english about edubuntu page? | 02:26 |
ogra | JaneW, and what if i use ubuntu ? | 02:26 |
JaneW | Nota Bena (or whatever) latin for important | 02:26 |
ogra | theer wont be a about edubuntu page | 02:27 |
JaneW | then you;d ignore it, or read it for interest sake | 02:27 |
flint | warty sucked this bad out of the gate... The cool thing here is that most every copy of edubuntu will have a net feed. Nota bene Jane. | 02:27 |
ogra | read what '? | 02:27 |
ogra | you get an error massage if its not there | 02:27 |
ogra | message | 02:27 |
JaneW | ogra: right | 02:27 |
JaneW | on-line link? | 02:28 |
ogra | and i doubt the doc team would be happy with a edubuntu link | 02:28 |
JaneW | agreed, but I | 02:28 |
JaneW | 'm thinking of an solution | 02:28 |
JaneW | any | 02:28 |
ogra | me too, we still have time... i wont touch -artwork this week, probably i can come up with a solution the next days | 02:28 |
flint | jane, in comparison to the fundamental IP type problem that ollie is alluding to this artwork stuff is small. You will not connect with the dhcp.conf bug. | 02:29 |
ogra | flint, nope | 02:29 |
ogra | flint, you will not be able to *install* | 02:29 |
ogra | its not about connection | 02:30 |
JaneW | ok well the good news is that sabdfl has commited to funding us to print off some CDs | 02:30 |
ogra | its only the thin client side that isnt connected by default anyway | 02:30 |
flint | ollie, i mean that under certain situations your workstations and the server will not talk. | 02:30 |
JaneW | the bad news is if we *cough*cockitup*cough* that will be it for edubuntu | 02:30 |
ogra | flint, yes, because no ltsp is installed | 02:30 |
flint | jane we did not screw up. we have the patches we just cannot get them in the stream. | 02:31 |
ogra | flint, that doesnt matter.... | 02:31 |
flint | we consultants are great at standing holding the seat belt and watching the auto crash. | 02:31 |
ogra | what is in on release date must work | 02:31 |
JaneW | so here's what sabdfl wants | 02:32 |
JaneW | Document the shipping | 02:32 |
JaneW | plan, and ask teams to document their distribution plans ON THE SAME | 02:32 |
JaneW | PAGE. So, I want to see a wiki page that says we are shipping 500 CD's | 02:32 |
JaneW | to Germany (and to whom), and beneath that, where that team plamns to | 02:32 |
JaneW | distribute those 500 CD's. And then on the same page, the plans for | 02:32 |
JaneW | Nigeria. So on a single page we can see how those 8,000 CD's will be use | 02:32 |
flint | we gotta fix the dhcp then. | 02:32 |
highvoltage | i'm here i'm here | 02:32 |
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JaneW | hi highvoltage | 02:32 |
ogra | flint, exactly | 02:32 |
flint | hi hi hivoltage... | 02:32 |
flint | god i love recursion.... | 02:32 |
highvoltage | hi JaneW and flint | 02:33 |
highvoltage | :) | 02:33 |
flint | do you guys want me to bell the cat, or do you want elkner to write the sabdfl and say what we have is not complete technically? | 02:34 |
ogra | flint, eeek, please dont... | 02:34 |
highvoltage | ogra: is there an easy way to get a summary of packages and their sizes? | 02:34 |
ogra | highvoltage, what for ? | 02:34 |
flint | gotcha ollie, but we got to do something. | 02:35 |
highvoltage | ogra: removing the best selection of packages for PPC. | 02:35 |
highvoltage | i'm tending to think gcompris, just because it's so big. | 02:35 |
highvoltage | but there's probably a better selection of software to remove. | 02:35 |
highvoltage | blender3d is possibly one of them. | 02:35 |
ogra | but gcompris is quite essential | 02:35 |
highvoltage | true, it's one of the things that make edubuntu edubuntu. | 02:36 |
ogra | blender would be a candidate | 02:36 |
highvoltage | how about evolution? | 02:36 |
ogra | flint, but that doesnt involve sabdfl | 02:36 |
highvoltage | most schools will probably use web based clients. | 02:36 |
flint | In the annals hivoltage, you name shall be "The Butcher of PPC"! I salute you!!! | 02:36 |
highvoltage | flint: ;) | 02:36 |
highvoltage | flint: I solute you too, and most people in this chanel, for that matter. | 02:36 |
ogra | highvoltage, i'm not sure how easy that is... i have to look at it | 02:36 |
highvoltage | ok. | 02:36 |
ogra | but blender is a good guess... | 02:37 |
ogra | probably scribus | 02:37 |
highvoltage | apologies for just barging in and flooding, i nearly forgot about this meeting. | 02:37 |
flint | ogra, sabdfl will be the one disapointed. this is expectation management pure and simple. | 02:37 |
highvoltage | do we have a set agenda or do i have permission to babble for just a bit longer? | 02:37 |
flint | no worries hv, your thoughts on Butchery are well received in this meeting. | 02:37 |
ogra | flint, the release is good, as you said in the beginnig, but the dhcp.conf bug needs to get solved, its a mdz thing | 02:38 |
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ogra | my prob is that i lost 10 days | 02:38 |
highvoltage | the website. | 02:38 |
ogra | due to screensaver flipping back and forth | 02:39 |
highvoltage | hno73 has the wiki theme done. it's beatiful. we also have our basic html edubuntu page(s) | 02:39 |
ogra | s/screensaver/screensaver packages/ | 02:39 |
highvoltage | the site and wiki will look different, but with a very, very similar theme. i think it's looking good. | 02:39 |
flint | ogra, the damn thing will work attached to a dedicated switch if you patch the files according to the (still unwritten) documentation, correct? | 02:39 |
highvoltage | elmo has been scarce again since thursday, all i need him to do is change some dns and apache settings, and we're good to go. | 02:40 |
ogra | flint, the thing will work if you go with the suggested IP range | 02:40 |
highvoltage | flint: the 'cookbook' exists. | 02:40 |
JaneW | highvoltage: yes what you and hno73 have done is looking great, did you get my mail? | 02:40 |
ogra | flint, if you change that, the dhcp.conf needs to pick up this change | 02:40 |
highvoltage | JaneW: i might have, i'm a bit behind with mail, we've had a two-day meeting over monday and tuesday. | 02:40 |
JaneW | highvoltage: elmo is on leave,,, | 02:41 |
JaneW | highvoltage: oic | 02:41 |
highvoltage | crap. | 02:41 |
highvoltage | when is he back? | 02:41 |
highvoltage | how can he choose a time like this to be on leave!? it's like, a freakin' week before release! | 02:41 |
JaneW | can;t find it now but I think he said he is off till thurs (tomorrow) | 02:41 |
JaneW | I know | 02:41 |
JaneW | but Karl is there | 02:42 |
highvoltage | ok, that at least is managable | 02:42 |
ogra | highvoltage, because he worked much harder than anybody else the last weeks | 02:42 |
highvoltage | ogra: ok :) | 02:42 |
JaneW | requests must go to: "Now that there's two admins, please email all admin requests to: rt@admin.canonical.com" | 02:42 |
highvoltage | no harm intended to elmo, for the record. | 02:42 |
ogra | and had to introduce karl | 02:42 |
ogra | ...to his job | 02:42 |
highvoltage | i'll send it to request tracker. anyone have Karl's e-mail too? | 02:42 |
flint | and the change in dhcp.conf has to flow to all the client configurations, got it. Highvoltage, where is this "cookbook" got a url? | 02:43 |
JaneW | highvoltage: so mail the queue and it should get done, in fact it's much more likely to get done like that (more official) | 02:43 |
highvoltage | brb | 02:43 |
JaneW | flint: in our wiki | 02:43 |
JaneW | flint: look in the docs section | 02:43 |
flint | jane, you can tell a lot about a girl by the size of her wiki :^) | 02:44 |
flint | where on the wiki? | 02:44 |
flint | ok I will go look... sorry. | 02:44 |
ogra | n n | 02:44 |
JaneW | flint! | 02:45 |
JaneW | what else? | 02:46 |
flint | i'm looking! i'm looking (i'm laughting :^) | 02:46 |
flint | when we go live with this thing jane, the only thing that will help us hold the line is this wiki of yours. I will find the time to help with it. | 02:48 |
flint | ...getting documentation correct on the page i mean. | 02:48 |
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flint | my conculsion is that since we are powerless to change the release cd, our only option is to mitigate any rough edges in the documentation. this we can do. | 02:50 |
JaneW | flint: great thanks | 02:50 |
JaneW | nod | 02:51 |
JaneW | and get a nice CD cover and label design | 02:51 |
JaneW | mhz is in carge of that, so collaborate with him | 02:51 |
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JaneW | flint: also we can do some good press releases | 02:51 |
flint | I have compelte faith in your graphic design capabilities young lady. | 02:52 |
ogra | sorry, my keaboard went mad, i had to reset | 02:52 |
flint | the linux world interview of sabdfl mentions edubuhntu almost as one leg of the tripod, ubuntu, kubuntu, and edubuntu. | 02:53 |
flint | regarding press, I can see what kind of bother I can cause in DC. Ollie, am I bad to say that the dhcp.conf fix is most important? | 02:55 |
JaneW | ogra: what is it with the KB of yours? | 02:55 |
ogra | its going mad sometines... i already ordered a new one... but wont recieve it before UBZ | 02:55 |
flint | jane, it says "Underwood" at the top and is very pretty. | 02:56 |
ogra | flint, nope, youre absolutely right | 02:56 |
JaneW | I think it is agreed that the DHCP thing needs to be fixed - ogra but is there any chance of it being fixed before the 13th? | 02:56 |
ogra | flint, all other stuff is minor annoyance and cosmetic stuff | 02:56 |
ogra | JaneW, absolutely | 02:56 |
JaneW | cool. done | 02:57 |
ogra | JaneW, else i'll resign myself :) | 02:57 |
flint | agreed. Note that we have patched around this in all the installations we have done. | 02:57 |
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JaneW | ok is there anything else to discuss? | 02:57 |
ogra | i want to have it fixed locally today, the question is how to get it in... i need a bazaar training | 02:57 |
JaneW | lets get our A's into G and get this release wrapped | 02:57 |
JaneW | literally and figuratively | 02:57 |
JaneW | ogra: can we bribe someone? | 02:58 |
flint | Jane-of-arc, get your armor on, grab yous sword and lets go fight for dhcp.conf | 02:58 |
ogra | JaneW, i'll ask jblack, he offered one to me... but the sad thng is that the patch wont be in for RC | 02:58 |
JaneW | that's tomorrow right? | 02:59 |
ogra | i'll jum right on it now to make it ready here | 02:59 |
JaneW | does jblack have time to help? | 02:59 |
JaneW | ok | 02:59 |
JaneW | and the WSIS thing? | 02:59 |
ogra | JaneW, i'll ask him | 02:59 |
JaneW | should I talk to mdz about making it ubuntu olnly? | 02:59 |
ogra | no idea, i gave you all my views | 02:59 |
ogra | we probably should talk with him | 03:00 |
JaneW | ok | 03:00 |
ogra | to see his opinion | 03:00 |
flint | ollie, do you have to use bazaar to generate the iso at this point? That would be most cool. what do you mean ubuntu only? | 03:00 |
ogra | flint, i have to use bazaar for all of my job | 03:00 |
ogra | so mdz can merge my changes | 03:00 |
ogra | (and not only mdz) | 03:00 |
flint | I can tell you he is most disinclined to change anything in the current release. | 03:00 |
ogra | but he knows the problem with ltsp | 03:01 |
ogra | this fix he will accept, be sure | 03:01 |
flint | Note that the LTSP rewrite was his baby this summer. | 03:01 |
ogra | its just the technical part on my side that needs to be ok... | 03:01 |
ogra | flint, as if i wouldnt know that | 03:02 |
ogra | its not a problem with him not liking my changes, its a problem on my side that i cant provide the changes as he wants them | 03:02 |
ogra | and thats what i have to fix... | 03:03 |
flint | I can live with a dog that dances and looks a little scruffy, especially a newborne one, they are always cute. But it must dance. | 03:03 |
ogra | exactly | 03:03 |
flint | ogra, I will probably call matt and harass him about this issue, after talking to elkner. Elkner and I call him at lunch on a cell phone. | 03:04 |
flint | and elkner is back online today. | 03:04 |
ogra | flint, dont do that, he surely gets annoyed | 03:05 |
ogra | i wouldnt like to annoy him before i have anything in my hands | 03:05 |
JaneW | flint: don't irk him more than necessary! | 03:05 |
flint | yea... I really look forward to hearing him sputter... | 03:05 |
flint | I can be gentle and diplomatic, moreover he listens to jeff and I can put him on the phone... | 03:06 |
ogra | flint, being gentle to a guy that hasnt slept enough doesnt help :) | 03:06 |
flint | mdz is one of the best sputter-ers I know. His first sputter is normally about the lack of testing response.... | 03:07 |
ogra | flint wait until i have the fix ready and have talked to him, he knows how critical the fix is for us | 03:07 |
flint | ogra, this is important. Has he been online all night? | 03:07 |
ogra | i guess so... we're short before RC, he doesnt sleep much at this times... | 03:08 |
ogra | (as i do :) ) | 03:08 |
flint | I will not poke him with a stick when he is sleeping. | 03:08 |
flint | gotcha. let me ruminate then. | 03:08 |
ogra | flint, just wait until i have prepared the patch and have talked to him | 03:08 |
flint | get this one last bug slayed and go to the fair. I would be most interested in your patch ollie. can I look at it? | 03:09 |
flint | I might actually learn something valuable. | 03:09 |
ogra | flint, yes, if its done... | 03:09 |
JaneW | ok ladies I must go | 03:10 |
ogra | i'll send it to you... but note that its only important for the CD (installer) | 03:10 |
JaneW | ogra see you in a bit | 03:10 |
flint | I actually liked your lotr patch, and I sent back an embelishment | 03:10 |
JaneW | lets get this DHCP thing whacked | 03:10 |
ogra | yup | 03:10 |
flint | jane your f-a-b-u-l-o-u-s | 03:10 |
ogra | flint, note too that its a patch for the deb, it has nothing to do with ltsp itself... | 03:11 |
JaneW | ogra: thanks for the great and detailed report :) | 03:11 |
flint | thanks for being here janew | 03:11 |
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ogra | (its really only about installation) | 03:11 |
ogra | JaneW, my job... i shuld have started earlier with them :) | 03:11 |
flint | email me what you can when you can ollie. merely for my own education. | 03:11 |
ogra | flint, this evening/night (my time) it shoudl be ready | 03:12 |
JaneW | ogra: agreed, but better late than never ;) | 03:12 |
ogra | sure :) | 03:12 |
flint | I will brief elkner this day. | 03:12 |
ogra | i'll do that on a regular basis before the meetins now | 03:12 |
flint | good luck to all and good day/evening/morning/afternoon. Remember Howard Hughes once flew the worlds largest wooden plane 175 yards in order to say it worked. Working is a matter of perception. | 03:14 |
JaneW | thank oli | 03:14 |
highvoltage | sorry about that, lots of interuptions here. | 03:14 |
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highvoltage | not that i'm in a position to ask either, but anything that i can do to help still, or find someone to do? | 03:15 |
flint | I'm outa here. Thanks again to all. | 03:17 |
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