[12:04] Yeah ajmitch ya slacker ;-P [12:04] bddebian: :( [12:05] I'll get back to work sir [12:06] dholbach: hugs [12:06] tseng: :)) [12:07] ajmitch: Good boy. ;-) === ajmitch sighs [12:07] w00t === bddebian finally kicks wordtrans's ass === ajmitch closes a few bugzilla bugs just for fun [12:09] ajmitch: Hey, Malone only!! ;-P [12:10] hibernate works on both my laptops now [12:10] its the coolest [12:11] after sleep that is [12:14] bddebian: no, I want to do more bugzilla fixing this week if possible [12:14] bddebian: there are plenty of MOTUs around to do universe [12:14] man i need to clean up in here === bddebian looks around [12:17] I won't abandon universe :) [12:17] i will [12:17] or, I did! [12:17] har [12:18] nah [12:20] ~ [12:20] ok, closed some stale bugs in bugzilla === koke [n=koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] hi all! [12:21] hey koke [12:21] ho koke :) [12:21] dholbach: looks like your plan to lure back motus is working [12:21] Hello koke [12:21] yep, I just read the mail [12:21] ajmitch: Heh [12:21] but I'm almost all the day in the channel [12:21] koke: I know :) [12:22] good to see you [12:22] heya :) [12:22] koke: going to be at UBZ? [12:22] ajmitch: not sure yet, but I don't think so [12:22] I am [12:22] maybe I'll change my opinion at last minute :) [12:23] ogra: a few of these old bugs are assigned to you ;) [12:23] koke: hopefully you do :) [12:23] ajmitch, cxx stuff ? === bigcx2 [i=ccole@157.182.194.245] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] yeah [12:23] just cleaning up those that are fixed [12:23] ajmitch: I didn't remember [12:24] let's go for them :) [12:24] ajmitch: hey, I only have one :) [12:24] ajmitch, yes, \sh grabbed all my cxx stuff when i started with edubuntu === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] hey guys [12:25] ogra: yep [12:25] hello jmg [12:25] hi jmg [12:25] note that i am not ubuntuized yet [12:25] but i still want to be a motu for dapper [12:25] Hello jmg [12:25] jmg, thts the right place then :) [12:25] jmg: that's excellent news [12:26] dholbach: If this is all it took, why didn't you send the mail a month ago?? ;-P [12:26] ajmitch: i reinstalled my laptop and checked out the bugfixed kvpnc... still lots of bugs from upstream but at least my bug is fixed :) [12:26] bddebian: good question [12:26] ajmitch: rebuilt as lvm so i can resize for development :) === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] jmg: great [12:28] every day is bug day [12:28] sure [12:28] ajmitch: is sip support a goal for main or universe? [12:29] we fix bugs non-stop h ere [12:29] for breezy [12:29] jmg: possibly main [12:29] for dapper [12:29] yeah [12:29] can [12:29] well sip support in breezy is non existant [12:29] can't push stuff to main now [12:29] its all in universe and none of that works [12:30] file bugs, please [12:30] at least against the universe packages [12:31] Riddell: You here? [12:32] bddebian: hi === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.246.97.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] always here for you baby [12:32] Riddell: Heya. Does KDE look use /usr/share/applications and /usr/share/pixmaps too or is that a Gnome only thing? [12:32] Riddell: Heh [12:33] s/look// [12:33] brb, I need a bigger computer :) [12:33] Get me one too ;-) [12:33] oh whoops [12:33] bddebian: /usr/share/applications/kde for .desktop files [12:33] bddebian: /usr/share/icons for icons [12:34] and /usr/share/apps/myapp/ for other images [12:34] Fux, OK. I'll have to fix wordtrans AGAIN. Thanks [12:34] bddebian: what's the issue? [12:34] Riddell: I was adding/fixing a desktop file for wordtrans-qt and I "fixed" wordtrans-kde too. ;-) [12:35] bddebian: what did you change? [12:35] for -qt it wasn't being built. For KDE it was going in /usr/applnk/some/crazy/dir :-) [12:35] applnk is old [12:35] Aye [12:38] Gotta run for a bit, bbiaw [12:38] bddebian: 'w'? [12:39] week? :) [12:39] While [12:39] Whenever [12:39] cya bddebian [12:39] stupid stamp files [12:39] hrmpf... hat is a PITA... it builds > 1h and i've got it now to the point where it fails in postinst :( [12:40] sistpoty: lovely === koke [n=koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] mwuhahaha, i guessed the clarkson xen svn url. [12:41] heh [12:41] hi again! [12:41] ok, cut down the open cxx bug list on bugzilla [12:41] wb [12:41] ok, well, ALSA's fixed. Whether it's applied it time for Breezy is probably a no-go, but the dpatch is there. [12:41] Time for more bug squashing! [12:42] there's still 3824 bugs open on bugzilla! get to work, people! :) [12:42] wb koke [12:42] doh! what a shame, I didn't ever have pbuilder installed in my workstation :/ [12:43] hmm [12:43] i wonder if i can do a dirty hack on klaptop to actually use /etc/acpi/ [12:47] jmg: they need to be fixed to use ACPI and pmi [12:49] jmg: who else from up there are you going to drag in as a MOTU? === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] ajmitch: Hmm, my coworkers are either too busy to do any motuing, or too silly. [12:58] ajmitch: ill do my best to translate their whines into usable bugs === jmg goes to look for other bugs to squash [12:59] oh [12:59] not much point really [12:59] im behind the times === jmg goest to work on Kommander interface to setfacl instead === ajmitch wanders off for some lunch === dholbach wanders off to bed [01:02] have a nice evening guys, i'm off to bed [01:04] ajmitch: NO BUGZILLA! ;-P [01:04] Gnight dholbach [01:04] :) [01:08] 'night [01:08] hmm [01:08] *stupid* question - what is MOTU? [01:10] MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE [01:10] <--- He-Man [01:10] ajmitch is She-Ra ;-P === bddebian hides [01:10] I see [01:11] Fear us.....wait....only be aware of me. I'm just in Training ;P [01:11] Kyral: Aren't we all ? :-) [01:11] Compared to real MOTUs that is :P [01:12] hmm is this possible to have more than one MOTU? [01:12] MASTERS sorry ;-) [01:12] yes [01:12] heh I see ;) [01:12] it was bddebian misleading you :p === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-148-77.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [i=foobar@i577B1CBA.versanet.de] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [01:27] wrt http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=708 [01:27] it fails to start here while trying loader.write(base64.b64decode(content)) [01:27] in /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/deskbar/handlers/mozilla.py [01:28] line 134 === mikhail^ [n=dean@58.69.30.39] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty does mv sistpoty /dev/bed [01:34] gn8 everyone [01:34] Gnight sistpoty === thierry_ [n=thierry@modemcable171.142-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] http://www.angelfire.com/wa/zzaran/calvin.html === ajmitch returns [01:52] I see bddebian has been trash-talking me again :P === bddebian hugs ajmitch [01:53] hmmph [01:53] lol [01:54] I hope sistpoty didn't saw that /dev/bed is a symlink to /dev/null ;-) [01:54] hehe [01:54] but well. he disappered... :-P [01:56] bddebian: you'll put me off bugfixing next :P [01:57] ajmitch: ?? [01:58] 12:10 < bddebian> ajmitch is She-Ra ;-P [01:58] 12:10 * bddebian hides === womble [n=mpalmer@sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] lol [02:00] ajmitch: I got that, but what do you mean by put you off bugfixing? [02:00] I might decide to quit again :P === Macey [n=andy@dsl1-firewall.amhurst.andymace.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] with the abuse I get around here & all [02:05] again? [02:06] night all [02:06] yeah === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless offers ajmitch an abuse-mirror [02:31] heh [02:37] ajmitch: what is the invocation to dpatch you told me? === jmg just spotted the bug in klaptop [02:37] which invocation did you need? [02:37] ajmitch: there was one that gave a shell and then i could make my change? [02:38] dpatch-edit-patch? [02:38] is that it? [02:38] should be [02:38] you need to setup debian/rules for dpatch first [02:38] ajmitch: You can't quite, slaves have to be sold. ;-P [02:38] it's already dpatch aware [02:39] jmg: then dpatch-edit-patch should work [02:39] bddebian: too late for that [02:39] Err s/quite/quit [02:41] Not quite. seems a little broken [02:41] what happens? === slomo_ [n=slomo@p5487FAC7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] hey everyone [03:17] Heya bmonty [03:18] working on bug fixing? [03:18] of course he is [03:18] I guess [03:18] he is the Bug Master [03:18] ok then, #1332...I propose reject [03:19] Yep [03:25] hey, the bug count is holding below 500...nice job bddebian [03:26] yes, good job Bug Master [03:27] pfft [03:28] :-) [03:28] I need another machine or two .. :-) [03:28] sure [03:28] like the 20 you have aren't enough === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] if a bug is assigned to Martin Pitt, can I close it if the problem is fixed? [03:29] yes [03:29] #1765 [03:29] They're all Hurd. I'm starting to consider switching one to Ubuntu [03:29] bmonty: Yes [03:31] do you worry about backporting security fixes to hoary? [03:31] in main, yes === sebest_ [n=chatzill@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] hey all [03:32] in universe only if someone is willing to do it [03:32] thanks Amaranth [03:32] brb [03:32] i just put up a guide for oracle 10g on ubuntu on the wiki [03:32] hello bigcx2 [03:32] if you all could check it out and give me some feedback [03:32] it'd be appreciated [03:33] wiki.ubuntu.com/Oracle10g === ajmitch wonders if anyone here actually knows oracle === bddebian hides [03:33] lol [03:34] looks moderately evil === bmonty_laptop [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] no it's totally evil [03:35] :) [03:35] closed source sucks [03:35] that's why it had to be done [03:35] yep :) [03:35] I don't think I've closed any malone bugs yet today [03:36] i got one for ya that'd be easy to fix === hubH hesitate packaging new things [03:36] bigcx2: sure === ajmitch can't handle anything too complex :) [03:37] i put it in a couple a days ago but i don't know if it's been accepted yet [03:37] it has to do with the zope-common docs [03:37] ah, main bug [03:38] what's the bug number, and is it in bugzilla? [03:38] it's in universe [03:38] ajmitch: You are such a liar :-) [03:38] you filed the bug in malone? [03:38] bddebian: why? [03:38] yea [03:39] * ajmitch can't handle anything too complex :) [03:39] bigcx2: the package is in main for breezy, did you file the bug against hoary? [03:40] i don't think i picked a specific release [03:40] bigcx2: ok, checked the doc, the typo is fixed [03:40] for breezy [03:40] yes [03:41] alright it was 2842 by the way [03:41] it's hardly a critical bug that requires us to put it in hoary-updates [03:41] I know [03:41] otherwise I wouldn't have known what the bug was [03:41] hey i thought you said you wanted something easy! [03:41] :) [03:41] it's easy, I can mark it as fixed because we have a fixed package :P [03:42] cool [03:42] does the package in breezy have the linked mode that it talks about in the docs? [03:42] no [03:42] Can anyone reproduce 2852? I cannot [03:42] the README talks about them as addon techniques [03:42] rather than modes [03:43] ahh maybe i misread it then [03:43] sounds cool regardless [03:43] thank doko === bigcx2 thanks doko === otep [n=paltok@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JptrDuo [n=kvirc@tor/session/x-0bee192db0f1e585] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] bmonty or ajmitch: Can either of you reproduce 2852? [03:49] Hey guys, there's a package that's in the universe (kvirc) that's 2.x in the repository and is currently at v. 3.2.0 (debian package available) [03:50] bddebian: it works fine for me [03:50] not sure if it should go on Universe Candidates since it needs to be updated, but isnt new [03:50] bddebian: no, and I already asked you & bmonty to try & reproduce that for me :P [03:50] ajmitch: Did you? === bddebian is on crack again [03:51] I wonder what arch he's running [03:51] bddebian: yes [03:52] ajmitch, why didn't you close it? [03:52] because that bug was closed [03:53] and it was 1657 [03:53] this is a new one [03:53] Oohh :-) [03:53] ahh....a user who can't catch a clue [03:53] 1657 the reporter confirmed it as working [03:53] 2852 is by someone else [03:57] Hmm, I think I've killed my poor lappy trying to compile opensp and download/install ddd at the same time.. :'-( [04:00] Uhm, 2833? [04:00] bddebian: is it that weak? [04:00] bddebian: I do more on my slow and aged laptop [04:01] Actually I think my HD is failing and Ihave been putting it off :-) === JptrDuo [n=kvirc@tor/session/x-0bee192db0f1e585] has left #ubuntu-motu ["So] === windex [n=windex@dpc67143139042.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:20] ajmitch or bmonty: 2843? When I install ddd I get libxp6 ?? [04:21] ok [04:21] it still needs fixed [04:21] Does it? [04:21] libxp6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), [04:21] Then how did it come in for me? [04:21] a rebuild would drop the unnecessary libxp6 dep [04:21] because you've got a screwy box? ;) [04:22] I did it in a pbuilder login === ajmitch waits for bddebian to fix ddd [04:24] All it needs is a rebuild? I don't have to add the libxp6 dep? [04:26] ajmitch: ^^ ? [04:26] unless you really really want to? === zakame [n=zakame@210.213.77.90] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Aramil [n=tony@ipa151.0.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] hey zakame [04:26] ajmitch: Damn you. What is "correct" ? :-) === hub__ [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] hi jsgotangco =) [04:27] back === hub__ is now known as hub [04:30] anyone running kubuntu? [04:31] bmonty_laptop: No, not yet. :-( I think if I bring up another box I might. [04:36] hmm...look at 451. The submitter says he rebuilt the package and it now it works. Is it worth you guys rebuilding the package? [04:38] He says he built it in a hoary pbuilder??? [04:39] yeah, looks like a hoary pbuilder [04:41] bmonty_laptop: Mark it fixed in breezy ;-) [04:43] I would except the submitter says the bug occurs with the package in breezy [04:43] Did you try it? :-) [04:43] I don't run KDE so I can't reproduce the bug [04:45] Oh, well kick Riddell ;-P === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Rotund [n=joe@d10-38.rb.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:56] Hi. I'd like to be a MOTU. I have a package that's not in debian that I'd like to make a debian package for. [04:56] Could someone walk me through the process? [04:56] or point me to a good page w/ the info [04:58] Rotund: the maint-guide package $(apt-get -y install maint-guide) provides a good intro :) [04:58] Rotund: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUWannabeTips and other pages in the MOTU category [04:58] thanks. Just checking that there isn't a deskbar applet package under some other name [04:58] there is [04:58] what is it? [04:59] it's just been packaged [04:59] oh, so I just need to wait for it. [04:59] dholbach probably uploaded it a few hours ago [04:59] Rotund: another pointer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch [04:59] now I'm the MOTV (Master of the void) [04:59] iirc it was uploaded about 6 hours ago [05:00] resapplet? [05:00] no [05:00] resapplet is completely different [05:00] no. This is like the google address bar/quicksilver (sorta) [05:01] hmmm. I just refreshed and still nothing under "deskbar" [05:01] Rotund: because new packages need to be manually approved after upload [05:02] gotcha [05:03] dholbach did [05:03] are syncs from debian unstable still OK? [05:03] yes, as said before [05:03] bmonty_laptop: maybe [05:03] bmonty_laptop: give us a good reason for it [05:04] ajmitch: kcheckgmail....seems that only the latest version will work with gmail [05:04] #459 and #2018 [05:04] now for my "fun"... I want to try to get a newer version of libtheora for me. [05:05] bmonty_laptop: you've tested it? [05:05] Rotund: not in breezy, sorry [05:05] ajmitch: no, I don't use KDE [05:05] Rotund: you could build it yourself if you wanted [05:05] bmonty_laptop: never ask for a sync that you haven't tested yourself [05:06] ajmitch: I know. As I said, it's for me and I'll probably post a link somewhere as the one in breezy is total crap [05:06] what should be done with a bugzilla bug marked as RESOLVED UNIVERSE? [05:06] hub: fix it [05:07] what are the chances I could get a new package into Sarge for next time? [05:07] Sarge??? [05:07] Rotund: into sarge? absolutely none :) [05:07] o_O [05:07] ajmitch: but I mean, how to we mark then as fixed since they are already resolved? [05:07] ajmitch: reopen and then really mark FIXED? [05:07] hub: we don't, since we use malone [05:07] ah ok [05:07] so? [05:07] They are using a very old version there and the ubuntu one is a recompile of the sarge one. [05:08] I don't know if the guy died or what. ;) [05:08] ah I go to the malone bug [05:08] Rotund: sarge is released, you cannot get new versions in [05:09] Sid... unstable [05:09] I get those confused =) [05:09] ajmitch: I haven't asked for the sync yet....just checking to make sure I understand the process [05:10] bmonty_laptop: this close to the release, you need to provide real justification & test it [05:10] although you should always test it [05:11] I guess we need to get a kubuntu user to test it, or drop the package since the version in breezy is no good [05:12] completley unrelated to this channel but a valid question since i want to play with some packages that may exist in breezy: is breezy stable enough to use day to day yet? [05:12] windex: I've been using it daily for 3 months [05:13] windex: considering that it's due for release in a bit over a week, it ought to be [05:13] oh. ok then. :D [05:13] last time i asked, was 2 months ago, and X was broken. :) [05:13] windex: the colony 5 release is excellent [05:14] i guess that means i can check to see if my tablet pc will run ubuntu without modifications then. :) === [Chameleon] [n=Paul@000f660c9c52.click-network.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] How the fsck can we have libglade2 v 2.5.1-2ubuntu1 but glade 0.6.4-13.1?? [05:14] simple [05:15] Ahh glade-2 ? [05:15] yes [05:15] although the versions are still different [05:15] bddebian: that confused me too the last time I played with glade :) [05:16] :-) === nybble [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:20] it can be confusing. Glade and Libglade are actually different sources. [05:20] sound ok to close #459, I suspect at some point in the past that bug would have been fixed, 2018 would be the most valid now [05:21] damn, 8-12" of snow in north dakota tonight [05:21] guess I better get my snow blower fixed soon === MojOrow [n=hbecker@d150-37-128.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:23] bmonty_laptop: looks fine to me to close 459. [05:23] I'd add a referral to 2018. === bddebian seconds it [05:23] Am I on crack (as usual) or what is up with the diff on #2782 ?? [05:24] Did he just diff the script after it was built?? [05:24] heh, I've closed 5 bugs tonight and I haven't had to apt-get anything :) [05:24] bmonty_laptop: FU ;-P === bddebian has built 7 packages in the last 2 hours :'-( [05:24] And I haven't even gotten to gnucash yet.. :'-( :'-( [05:25] what is wrong with gnucash? [05:25] I need to figure out how to build a kubuntu uml image [05:26] Old version. Missing desktop file. Can't use ofx. Take your pick ;-) === nybbled [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] desktop file is there, I checked that this afternoon [05:27] In the current version? [05:27] yes [05:27] Well it ftbfs's anyway :-) [05:27] I would add GNOME to the categories, but the desktop file looks correct otherwise [05:27] bddebian: don't anger the debian maintainer of gnucash [05:27] well FTBFS is definately a problem [05:28] ajmitch: Who, Thomas? [05:28] yeah [05:28] pfft :-) [05:28] you may recognise the name :) [05:28] I had dinner with him right before I left California [05:29] heh === ajmitch doesn't get to meet anyone, stuck down here in NZ [05:29] That's why you are coming to PA via UBZ right?? ;-P [05:30] ajmitch: don't listen to him, PA sucks [05:30] bddebian: depends on how much you'd pay me to visit [05:30] ajmitch: How much would it take? I have to buy friends. ;-) [05:31] bmonty_laptop: Oh, as opposed to 12 inches of snow in October?? ;-P [05:31] north dakota sucks too....that is why I don't live there [05:33]