[12:00] <trin> well im quite happy with breezy (ji everyone ;))
[12:00] <seethru> Dreamglider: and presumably during the install it installed the bootloader ontop of the current grub?
[12:00] <GDorn> plus, new windows keep getting drawn split half and half between my two monitors
[12:00] <steve_> seethru: smeg eh?  I shall have to give it a try, thank you again.
[12:00] <delltony> question when installing kubuntu breezy i get the following error can't install initd tools. I installed winblows first on one partition and left the rest of the hd unallocated and went to install breezy on there this is how i'm having the issue when trying to install the base system.
 any help would be great (or ideas i should say) i'm on another computer but taking notes and ideas
[12:00] <Dreamglider> seethru, i belive so yes
[12:01] <[LethAL] > Could someone explain how to use GMailFS? I edieted the conf and ran the script and a) It doesn't know where to mount and b) It doesn't login
[12:01] <Kira> 9 days to go, yay!
[12:01] <larsrohdin> Kira, to?
[12:01] <Pickle_Weasel> ok i am still getting an error when i try to do anything in synaptic saying E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:01] <[LethAL] > Breezy!
[12:01] <Pickle_Weasel> does anyone know what the problem could be?
[12:01] <[LethAL] > Even though it's 10 here
[12:02] <larsrohdin> oh, =)
[12:02] <Kira> =)
[12:02] <seethru> Dreamglider: hmm I'll see if I can dig anything up for you, never had that problem myself
[12:02] <Belutz> 8 days to go =)
[12:02] <[LethAL] > Anyone know about my GMailFS problem?
[12:02] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: shut off all your apt processes
[12:02] <Pickle_Weasel> how?
[12:02] <jcurry> is there something i can apt-get so that firefox prints normally, instead of giving me the postscript interpreter message?
[12:02] <Pickle_Weasel> killall apt?
[12:02] <Dreamglider> thanks a lot mate
[12:03] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: poll all your windows and programs and shut off all apt, synaptic, aptitude etc
[12:03] <floor_16> hey all, I've enabled backports in my sources.list file, however it doesn't seem to have all the files I'm looking for in the repositories, including azureus. Any suggestions?
[12:03] <ompaul> [LethAL] , it is 11 pm
[12:03] <Pickle_Weasel> ok, all i had open was synaptic
[12:03] <tristanmike> floor_16, azureus is in the "extras"
[12:03] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: killall dpkg
[12:03] <Pickle_Weasel> i closed it
[12:03] <[LethAL] > ompaul, same here... that doesn't help with my problem
[12:03] <floor_16> tristanmike: what do i have to do to access the extras?
[12:03] <Pickle_Weasel> dpkg: no process killed
[12:04] <StylusEater> killall -9
[12:04] <ghb> propagandhi: I think it's possible to enable DMA mode using hdparm, but I'm not sure how to set it; only get it.
[12:04] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: then i reckon you got em all
[12:04] <tristanmike> floor_16, you need to add them to your sources.list
[12:04] <Mustard5> !backports
[12:04] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:04] <Pickle_Weasel> no i just got it
[12:04] <Pickle_Weasel> sudo killall apt did it i think
[12:04] <Mustard5> follow those directions above from ubotu floor_16
[12:04] <Pickle_Weasel> no >.>
[12:04] <floor_16> ubotu: i've already done that.
[12:04] <ubotu> Not a clue, floor_16
[12:04] <Mustard5> uboto is a bot
[12:05] <hajiki> ghb, propagandhi hdparm -d1 /dev/hda tunrs in on
[12:05] <Pickle_Weasel> no, same problem still =\
[12:05] <floor_16> As i said mustard5, i've already added the backports to my sources.list
[12:05] <tristanmike> floor_16, did you "uncomment" the lines?
[12:05] <floor_16> of course
[12:05] <Mustard5> soz
[12:05] <grayman> ubotu: what is the meaning of life?
[12:05] <ubotu> grayman: what are you talking about?
[12:05] <floor_16> how do i access the EXTRAS
[12:05] <grayman> aha
[12:05] <ghb> hajiki: Does'nt work.
[12:05] <Mustard5> hehe grayman
[12:05] <tristanmike> floor_16, and updated and reloaded synaptic?
[12:06] <hajiki> ghb, do you get an error?
[12:06] <ghb> hajiki: I get the help menu...
[12:06] <floor_16> i'm just using apt
[12:06] <floor_16> straight up
[12:06] <hajiki> ghb, are you root?
[12:06] <tristanmike> floor_16, no need to use caps, you have several people trying to help
[12:06] <floor_16> but yes, i've performed an update
[12:06] <Mustard5> use apt-get updatedb then floor_16
[12:06] <Dreamglider> ok i just tried to boot and i got a "error 17"
[12:06] <floor_16> will try that
[12:06] <floor_16> thanks
[12:06] <ghb> hajiki: Using sudo, it should work, correct?
[12:06] <Dreamglider> GRUB Loading satge1.5.
[12:06] <hajiki> ghb, yes
[12:07] <Dreamglider> Grub Loading, please wait...
[12:07] <Dreamglider> Error 17
[12:07] <ghb> hajiki: What does the 'l' option do?
[12:07] <Pickle_Weasel> !sources
[12:07] <ubotu> it has been said that sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:07] <hajiki> ghb, its a number one not a letter L
[12:07] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[12:07] <[LethAL] > !tell Dreamglider about grub
[12:07] <floor_16> Mustard5, apt-get updatedb produces a syntax error.
[12:07] <[LethAL] > Dreamglider, read the windows-specifc page
[12:07] <ghb> hajiki: Oh. That explains it. =)
[12:08] <kangpeh> how do you get rid of the brown color in gdm login and such?
[12:08] <ghb> hajiki: *yaaaaaaay*
[12:08] <hajiki> ghb, but the 1 means 'on'
[12:08] <kairu_> hi. xfce crashed once and the next time i tried to login with GDM it said that my .gmrc file had wrong permissions and then I click OK and I cant get to the desktop. any ideas?
[12:08] <nalioth> Mustard5: apt-get updatedb?
[12:08] <trunks> hi
[12:08] <camilotelles> laptop guys, I will buy a new notebook. what brand model is best for ubuntu support? i looking for an HP nc series. good choice?
[12:08] <hajiki> ghb, did that work for you
[12:08] <nalioth> floor_16: it's "sudo apt-get update"
[12:08] <trunks> i need some help please
[12:09] <nalioth> camilotelles: find the one on HPs site that comes with ubuntu
[12:09] <ghb> hajiki: Indeed it did. =)
[12:09] <trunks> i ve got a pb with cmake
[12:09] <trunks> c++ was not found in your path
[12:09] <floor_16> yes, i've already done that, thanks nalioth
[12:09] <hajiki> ghb, great!
[12:09] <ghb> hajiki: Thanks a lot!
[12:09] <nalioth> trunks: install "build-essential"
[12:09] <trunks> i can t understand
[12:09] <hajiki> no problem
[12:09] <hajiki> trunks, did you install build-essential  ?
[12:09] <tristanmike> floor_16, you did search via synaptic and it's not there either?
[12:09] <floor_16> !backports
[12:09] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:09] <camilotelles> nalioth, I think that only HP in europe is doing that. I'm looking to HP in US
[12:09] <N6REJ> HEEEEEEEEEEEELP.... I'm being acostted by a hedgehog!
[12:10] <kangpeh> !color
[12:10] <ubotu> kangpeh: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:10] <trunks> thanks hajiki
[12:10] <nalioth> camilotelles: not sure than (the models are the same in europa)
[12:10] <kangpeh> !system color
[12:10] <ubotu> kangpeh: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:10] <kangpeh> :O
[12:10] <N6REJ> its stuck in a update screen.
[12:10] <cake-fork> !42
[12:10] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, cake-fork
[12:10] <trunks> it works now
[12:10] <trunks> thank you so much
[12:11] <nalioth> kangpeh: ask your question to the channel
[12:11] <kbrooks> cake-fork: don't play with ubotu. ;)
[12:11] <rsm> camilotelles: I am using the nx7000 (x1000) an old model now but works perfectly specially the 1680x1050 resolution.
[12:11] <kbrooks> or me, cake-fork
[12:11] <N6REJ> can someone PLEASE help me finish getting ubuntu hoary installed?
[12:11] <trunks> what s for built essential?
[12:11] <GDorn> does alsa work better in breezy?  because I'm at wit's end, here
[12:12] <kbrooks> i want to dock xchat
[12:12] <kbrooks> howe to do this
[12:12] <evan> pi
[12:12] <evan> what is pi
[12:12] <[LethAL] > 3.141592...
[12:12] <evan> factoid: ubotu  is lame
[12:12] <[LethAL] > !pi
[12:12] <nalioth> trunks: build-essential contains a nice lot of compiling software
[12:13] <[LethAL] > :P
[12:13] <hajiki> N6REJ, what seems to be your problem?
[12:13] <nalioth> [LethAL] : be civil
[12:13] <biezt_linux> how do i uninstall .htaccess ?
[12:13] <biezt_linux> i can't find it anywhere :|
[12:13] <[LethAL] > nalioth, ?
[12:13] <N6REJ> its stuck in an update screen.  Can't seem to finish the updating
[12:13] <trunks> thanks a lot
[12:13] <ghb> propagandhi: Now it goes muh faster. Thanks for your help. And thanks to hajiki as well! Damn -- it goes so fast that it lags when I type. XD
[12:13] <biezt_linux> the file keeps existing even after i deleted dir and made it again :D
[12:13] <hajiki> N6REJ, you mean the update screen in GNOME?
[12:14] <seablue> sheesh..my old connection Mustard5 is taking ages to timeout
[12:14] <nalioth> biezt_linux: it will not go away, it is part of the system
[12:14] <silent_scream> i installed with easy ubuntu the nvidia drivers by mistake, because I had alredy them installed. how do i uninstall them?
[12:14] <GDorn> uh.  apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't get me breezy?
[12:14] <nalioth> GDorn: read the /topic
[12:14] <N6REJ> no, its not gnome, its after it installed and rebooted, and did a bunch of stuff... then it downloaded a list of updates, and initially had/has a problem with metacity.
[12:14] <N6REJ> some commands are u U i g q ?
[12:15] <kbrooks> Question: I want to dock xchat into gnome and hide it from view and when I activate it, it should ask me for a password to activate it
[12:15] <kbrooks> Ideas?
[12:15] <anthony> Hi, I messed something up with my system (I think by trying to make it hibernate incorrectly), and now my cdrom won't mount.  I think it's a sector issue (64 versus 16), and I need to know how to correct it.
[12:15] <hajiki> N6REJ, hmmm... that just took a very long time for me. are you on dial-up or on cable/dsl ?
[12:15] <floor_16> tristanmike. doesn't work via synaptic or via apt
[12:15] <nalioth> kbrooks: get to coding
[12:15] <biezt_linux> so can any1 help me make password protection ???
[12:15] <N6REJ> I was on the phone and typing at the same time.. I'm on dsl
[12:15] <floor_16> should i pastebin my sources.list file?
[12:15] <cake-fork> kbrooks: use screen and a console irc client instead
[12:15] <biezt_linux> i keep looking at tutorials, but everything fails :|
[12:15] <kbrooks> cake-fork: No.
[12:15] <tristanmike> floor_16, that's odd, post your sources on paste..
[12:16] <kbrooks> I refuse to mix console and gui
[12:16] <hajiki> N6REJ, can you show me the last few lines that are on your console/display
[12:16] <hajiki> N6REJ, or describe them a bit
[12:16] <N6REJ> hmmmmmmmmmmmm..... let me think.
[12:16] <ghb> I really have to get used to typing and using the touchpad on a laptop -- it's so much different than using a regular PC. =D
[12:16] <kangpeh> nalioth:  Hi, how do I change the brown system color to black, silver, or whatnot?  (I.e., when I'm in the gdm login, the system color remains brown until I am logged in.)
[12:16] <GDorn> hope this works...  kinda last ditch before giving up for another couple years
[12:16] <cake-fork> kbrooks: where's the mix :-) there's no gui.
[12:16] <anthony> Here is the text of the error:  anthony@anthonyyarusso:~$ mount /media/cdrom0
[12:16] <anthony> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
[12:16] <anthony>        missing codepage or other error
[12:16] <anthony>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:16] <anthony>        dmesg | tail  or so
[12:16] <anthony> anthony@anthonyyarusso:~$ dmesg | tail
[12:16] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 926764
[12:16] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 926540
[12:16] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 927780
[12:16] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 926756
[12:16] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 926532
[12:17] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 1248
[12:17] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 1024
[12:17] <grayman> omg
[12:17] <tristanmike> and anthony is.......
[12:17] <kbrooks> kangpeh: Please don't ask specific persons for help
[12:17] <anthony> UDF-fs: No partition found (1)
[12:17] <biezt_linux> can any1 help me ?
[12:17] <grayman> dont paste it here
[12:17] <tristanmike> gone
[12:17] <kangpeh> kbrooks:  My apologies.
[12:17] <N6REJ> the menubar is blue, it has orange lined urls and green lined urls.  The green ones say blah,blah,blah [Hit]  and the orange ones say blah blah blah [Installed] 
[12:17] <nalioth> kangpeh: system > prefs > themes
[12:17] <kbrooks> kangpeh: Instead, ask the whole channel.
[12:17] <silent_scream> i installed with easy ubuntu the nvidia drivers by mistake, because I had alredy them installed. how do i uninstall them?
[12:17] <nalioth> silent_scream: synaptic
[12:18] <kangpeh> System->Pref->Themes changes the colors of the user logged in.
[12:18] <hajiki> N6REJ, does it ask you to type Y or No and then Enter?
[12:18] <N6REJ> then it has a msgbox that says downloading 3b in 1s2b/b
[12:18] <kangpeh> However, I want to change the theme colors in the gdm itself :|
[12:18] <N6REJ> no
[12:18] <N6REJ> just says OK
[12:18] <nalioth> biezt_linux: dont msg me please
[12:18] <floor_16> tristanmike: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2771
[12:18] <cake-fork> kangpeh: change the gdm theme?
[12:18] <biezt_linux> oops
[12:18] <N6REJ> if I hit ok, I get a black screen with blue borders and menus
[12:18] <biezt_linux> thought u knwe it
[12:18] <hajiki> N6REJ, seems like the mirror might have stopped responding. i guess you could try aborting and starting it again manually
[12:19] <N6REJ> how?
[12:19] <nalioth> biezt_linux: far more people are in here
[12:19] <tristanmike> floor_16, ok, you didn't add the extras, what makes you think you did?
[12:19] <biezt_linux> well u answered ;)
[12:19] <silent_scream> nalioth, any other way???
[12:19] <floor_16> I never thought i did
[12:19] <biezt_linux> sorry :(
[12:19] <tristanmike> and you have some stuff "commented"
[12:19] <floor_16> I asked how to add them!
[12:19] <hajiki> ctrl+c
[12:19] <floor_16> is it just 'extras' in the same line?
[12:19] <biezt_linux> so how do i get ridd of .htaccess ?
[12:19] <kangpeh> nalioth:  Do you think Mr. Shuttleworth would be willing to invest in a project of mine that I am working on?
[12:19] <nalioth> silent_scream: if it isnt visible in synaptic, you may have trouble
[12:20] <biezt_linux> not by deleting it, so there must be a way to putt it of ?
[12:20] <delltony> anyone know what it means when i can't install initd tools when trying to install breeze?
[12:20] <Belutz> biezt_linux, maybe you could ask in #apache ?
[12:20] <nalioth> kangpeh: visit www.markshuttleworth.com and see
[12:20] <floor_16> tristanmike: do i need to uncomment anything?
[12:20] <tristanmike> !tell floor_16 about extras
[12:20] <kangpeh> nalioth:  Yes, sir.  Thank you. =)
[12:20] <anthony> Okay, so I'm back, if you'd like to add an explanation to that.
[12:20] <Gorth> hey ya'll, does anyone know a good tab viewer (for guitar and banjo tabs) on ubuntu??
[12:21] <tristanmike> floor_16, got here, use this sources.list for Hoary
[12:21] <nalioth> anthony: please dont paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin
[12:21] <anthony> What are those?
[12:21] <N6REJ> hajiki: I can see a list of packages that it wants to install but I don't know how to tell it to "GO"
[12:21] <kennethlove> "y'all" not "ya'll"
[12:21] <tristanmike> !tell anthony about pastebin
[12:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell anthony about pastebin
[12:21] <hajiki> N6REJ, hit Y and then Enter
[12:22] <tristanmike> ooops, sorry nalioth ;)
[12:22] <Gorth> kennethlove, i'm from texas and we do either way!
[12:22] <floor_16> tristanmike: many thanks
[12:22] <Mustard5_> !pastebin
[12:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:22] <tristanmike> floor_16, the extras are the last line, uncomment
[12:22] <kbrooks> bbl
[12:22] <floor_16> saw that, thanks
[12:22] <Mustard5_> ah ok..I didnt know that
[12:22] <tristanmike> floor_16, ok, np
[12:22] <kennethlove> Gorth: i'm from oklahoma (arkansas, now). and it's a combination of "you" and "all",so there's really only one way to do it. :)
[12:23] <Gorth> ya + all?!
[12:23] <N6REJ> its extracting packages from templates, I had to hit i, g, enter
[12:23] <nalioth> texas grammer can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[12:23] <N6REJ> *confused*
[12:23] <kennethlove> i guess "ya'll" is better than "y'all" or "yall" or "yal'l"
[12:23] <Gorth> sorry nalioth :X
[12:23] <kosiidina> anyone know what i do with the directx patch for wine after i've downloaded it from sourceforge?
[12:23] <biezt_linux> how do i uninstall apache
[12:23] <biezt_linux> with apt-uninstall ?
[12:24] <Gorth> so does anyone know of any music tab viewrs?
[12:24] <kennethlove> biezt_linux: you could give apt-get remove apache a try.
[12:24] <Gorth> like tefviewer, but on ubuntu :(
[12:24] <cevizoglu> biezt_linux, apt-remove
[12:24] <nalioth> biezt_linux: use synaptic
[12:24] <cake-fork> Gorth: search with synaptic
[12:24] <tristanmike> synaptic
[12:24] <cevizoglu> biezt_linux, oops, nevermind
[12:24] <hajiki> N6REJ, oh... it just wanted you to confirm some of those upgrades incase you had done manual changes to some of the configuration files its replacing
[12:24] <hajiki> N6REJ, i is for install
[12:24] <N6REJ> nah, its a clean install
[12:25] <N6REJ> least is supposed to be LOL
[12:25] <cevizoglu> can the ubuntu installer resize ntfs partitions
[12:25] <cevizoglu> ?
[12:25] <hajiki> gnu parted can
[12:25] <nalioth> cevizoglu: yes
[12:25] <cevizoglu> excellent :)
[12:25] <N6REJ> hajiki: its still working, I'll let you know when it says something meaningful
[12:26] <Mustard5_> finally my old nick times out
[12:26] <nalioth> Mustard: psst /msg nickserv help ghost
[12:26] <anthony> Okay, I used that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2773.
[12:27] <Fr500> hi
[12:27] <Fr500> has anyone installed hula under ubuntu recently?
[12:27] <Mustard> doh..now its says my pass is wrong..grrrr
[12:27] <hajiki> N6REJ, okay, gl
[12:27] <nalioth> Mustard: you missing a number?
[12:27] <N6REJ> ty... I was unable to get breezy to install at all but hoary seems to be working well
[12:27] <Mustard> yeah..hehehe..it should be Mustard5 :P
[12:27] <Mustard> heheh
[12:28] <hajiki> breezy is working great for me as of the latest cd (colony 5)
[12:28] <Mustard5> bingo! :)
[12:28] <Navatiu> good job
[12:28] <nalioth> Mustard5: ask nickserv about ghost
[12:28] <cevizoglu> N6REJ, you might also consider upgrade to breezy with apt after you finish installing hoaru
[12:28] <Mustard5> k
[12:28] <cevizoglu> er, hoary
[12:28] <rawiramdhan> does any1 has problems with xmms? unstable etc.
[12:28] <N6REJ> ok.
[12:28] <biezt_linux> how do i uninstall apache 2.0 ??
[12:29] <biezt_linux> what is the command ?
[12:29] <rawiramdhan> sudo apt-get apache ?
[12:29] <biezt_linux> apt-remove
[12:29] <N6REJ> I'll let y'all know as soon as me'n adam get that far.  He's pretty lost w/o eve around :P
[12:29] <Fr500> hajiki, can ou tell me which version of hula is packaged with breezy?
[12:29] <rawiramdhan> sudo apt-get install apache:)
[12:29] <hajiki> Fr500, let me check
[12:29] <biezt_linux> no i want rid of it !!
[12:29] <rawiramdhan> owww:)  my bad
[12:29] <postgrado> hola
[12:29] <nalioth> rawiramdhan: use beep media player. it's a gtk2 fork of xmms
[12:30] <rawiramdhan> nalioth: also compatible with the skins from xmms?
[12:30] <kennethlove> biezt_linux: apt-get remove apache2
[12:30] <N6REJ> hajiki: it finished installing OO and said "hit return to continue" so I did and now I'm back to the blue screen again
[12:30] <nalioth> ghost is handy
[12:30] <hajiki> Fr500, Version: 0.1.0+svn162-2ubuntu1
[12:31] <Fr500> ok
[12:31] <hajiki> N6REJ, its just a blank blue screen?
[12:31] <N6REJ> yes with blue menu bar.  f10 gives me some options
[12:31] <rawiramdhan> nalioth: thanx:D installing it now
[12:31] <ReleaseX> if i put on the breezy pr what should my sources.list look like?
[12:32] <N6REJ> should I clear the package cache?
[12:32] <nalioth> ReleaseX: what they look like now, only with 'breezy' in place of 'hoary'
[12:32] <hajiki> N6REJ, dont think that will do much
[12:32] <biezt_linux> is the correct path home/biezt/htpasswd/.htpasswd ?? if it is in my home ?
[12:32] <N6REJ> *scratches head*
[12:32] <N6REJ> let me see if it will tell me anything more.
[12:32] <hajiki> N6REJ, what happens if you hit alt+ctrl+f1 and f2 and f3 etc
[12:33] <N6REJ> i get my tty's :D
[12:33] <hajiki> do you see any of them with anything usefull?
[12:33] <N6REJ> I'm on the primary tty right now
[12:33] <N6REJ> know.
[12:33] <N6REJ> no
[12:33] <Mustard5> what is a tty?
[12:34] <N6REJ> just the tty identier and logon
[12:34] <Mustard5> I never understand that term but its everywhere
[12:34] <N6REJ> Teletype termninal
[12:34] <N6REJ> lol
[12:34] <Mustard5> ah k :D
[12:34] <ReleaseX> malioth, thanks
[12:34] <cevizoglu> TeleTYpe
[12:34] <ReleaseX> nalioth, even the backports and extras?
[12:34] <N6REJ> should I just quit this blue thing somehow?
[12:35] <Mustard5> so how come modem connections have a tty bit in them?
[12:35] <nalioth> ReleaseX: there are no b/p or extras yet for breezy, so you can comment them out
[12:35] <N6REJ> i THINK its apget
[12:35] <N6REJ> s/apget/aptget/
[12:35] <Xenguy> apt-get
[12:35] <hajiki> N6REJ, might be a good idea not sure where you are at. i dont recollect ever having that screen your describing
[12:35] <ReleaseX> nalioth, ok thank you
[12:35] <anthony> Does anyone have any suggestions for that mounting issue?
[12:36] <hajiki> anthony, it might be a known issue with hibernating... have you tried rebooting?
[12:36] <ReleaseX> nalioth, so where do i get the stuff that was in extras?
[12:36] <N6REJ> *sigh* its not done!  "g" is the command to "finish all pending transactions" and I hit it 2x and there was more.
[12:36] <Xenguy> anthony: dunno.  google the errors?
[12:36] <N6REJ> so now its doing that.
[12:36] <anthony> Yes, it remains that way.  I could retry if you think it would help.
[12:36] <nalioth> ReleaseX: for now, you use what is on your system
[12:37] <biezt_linux> +
[12:37] <poofyhair> if I ever go to KDE, it will be because of luminocity
[12:37] <funkyHat> anyone at all familiar with xmove?
[12:38] <N6REJ> e: sub process /usr/bin/dpkg recieved a segmentation fault.    ACK! Something bad happend while installing packages.  Trying to recover:
[12:38] <N6REJ> RUT ROH!
[12:39] <hajiki> uh oh
[12:39] <hajiki> N6REJ, maybe you should start all over but with out having the computer pluged into the network
[12:40] <N6REJ> lol, ok.
[12:40] <stinko> Ciao
[12:40] <hajiki> N6REJ, i can show you how to manually upgrade once its up
[12:40] <floor_16> hey all, i'm trying to install azureus with apt, but i get the following error: Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5  but it is not installable or
[12:40] <floor_16>  	java2-runtime  but it is not installable
[12:40] <N6REJ> k
[12:40] <stinko> qualcuno mi pu dare un aiutino con mysql?
[12:40] <tristanmike> !tell floor_16 about java
[12:40] <Mustard5> !tell Mustard5 about java
[12:40] <hajiki> N6REJ, if you have any questions during the install feel free to ask me here or via pm
[12:40] <N6REJ> pm?
[12:40] <hajiki> private message
[12:41] <N6REJ> let me see if chatzilla will do that.
[12:41] <Cyay> haj
[12:41] <nalioth> stinko: vaya de el #ubuntu-es, por favor
[12:41] <libervisco> strange.. GNOME is freezing when I right click or load a specific SVG file in nautilus
[12:41] <libervisco> what gives
[12:41] <nalioth> Mustard5: it's /msg ubotu javadeb
[12:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell floor_16 about javadeb
[12:41] <Mustard5> uk
[12:41] <Mustard5> how would I know to put in javadeb?
[12:42] <Mustard5> hehe
[12:42] <Mustard5> is there a list?
[12:42] <anthony> hajiki: I think I'm going to try rebooting again.  Would it be better to do so with a CD in the drive or not, or does it not make a difference?
[12:42] <vladuz976> anybody know how to change input method in breezy?
[12:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Mustard5 about ubotu
[12:42] <tristanmike> nalioth, that's not the newest java
[12:42] <stinko> nalioth: veramente sono Italiano... comunque buona notte!
[12:42] <hajiki> anthony, shouldnt matter
[12:42] <anthony> Okay, here goes.
[12:42] <Drakeson> how can I install a newer kernel (2.6.13)
[12:43] <nalioth> stinko: mi disculpa, #ubuntu-it, por favor
[12:43] <stinko> ;-)
[12:43] <nalioth> Drakeson: that is an unstable kernel
[12:43] <nalioth> tristanmike: 1.5 isnt the newest?
[12:44] <tristanmike> nalioth, I thought there was a newer update, I may be mistaken
[12:44] <Mustard5> cool..I'm picking ubotu's brain ;)
[12:44] <Drakeson> yeah but I have some problems with my webcam (crashes the machine when v4l runs) so I thought it might be resolved in 2.6.13
[12:45] <org> hi all
[12:45] <nalioth> Drakeson: you're more likely to gather more probs with a testing kernel
[12:45] <totally_noob> I was trying to install flash plugins in firefox, it doesn't work, can someone help
[12:45] <Drakeson> btw it is strange that it worked under 2.6.9 and is broken in this version
[12:45] <Navatiu> evil version. :)
[12:46] <mwe> well on kernel.org 2.6.13.3 is listed as the latest stable kernel
[12:46] <nalioth> totally_noob: what hardware?
[12:46] <Drakeson> is there a chance that the problem is with the xorg v4l drivers?
[12:46] <totally_noob> nalioth, you want me to tell you all my hardwares?
[12:46] <kbrooks> So...
[12:47] <kbrooks> How do I create a template for a file?
[12:47] <Mustard5> I put in a PM to ubotu with keyword javadb and it asked me if I was smoking crack :)
[12:47] <kirbturd> hey
[12:47] <kbrooks> How do I create a template for a file?
[12:47] <kirbturd> wht up
[12:47] <totally_noob> nalioth,  i need to apt-get something?
[12:47] <nalioth> totally_noob: please tell the channel what version ubuntu and what hardware you are running
[12:47] <tristanmike> Mustard5, that's cause it's javadeb
[12:48] <thux> glxgears doesn't work how to see if my card work as well as it use to?
[12:48] <totally_noob> Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:48] <kirbturd> what dir do i put my packages in to install
[12:48] <Mustard5> haha doh
[12:48] <kirbturd> with apt-get
[12:48] <totally_noob> thats it
[12:48] <nalioth> kirbturd: you dont. use dpkg locally
[12:48] <kirbturd> neewb here
[12:49] <totally_noob> so
[12:49] <kirbturd> sorry
[12:49] <kbrooks> kirbturd: dont be sorry
[12:49] <kirbturd> okay im on the jux that u gotta dl the debian packages
[12:49] <kirbturd> then from root counsel install
[12:49] <kirbturd> with apt-get
[12:50] <kbrooks> kirbturd: no
[12:50] <kbrooks> with dpkg
[12:50] <kirbturd> how i us dpkg
[12:50] <funkyHat> kirbturd, dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:50] <kbrooks> dpkg -i /path/to/debian.file
[12:50] <amias> lo all
[12:50] <totally_noob> hi sir
[12:50] <amias> is it possible to get mga-vid-module from somewhere ?
[12:51] <amias> cant find it in breezy with uni and multiverses
[12:51] <amias> are there anymore repositories ?
[12:51] <cevizoglu> amias, yes
[12:52] <nalioth> amias: i show it in the repos
[12:52] <nalioth> amias: the standard repos
[12:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell amias about sources
[12:52] <oxez> which kernel is the best for an AMD Athlon XP 2600+? I saw the -k7 one, and on my motherboard box I see "GIGABYTE k7 Triton". I don't think it's related but I'm not sure :o
[12:52] <HrdwrBob> yes k7
[12:52] <kirbturd> error while processeing
[12:52] <oxez> I know I was using i686 on gentoo
[12:52] <nalioth> oxez: k7 or 686, you as a human wont see a difference
[12:53] <totally_noob> guys help me
[12:53] <kirbturd> okay im trying to get tor to work on my box
[12:53] <oxez> nalioth: but, will using k7 will fix some segfaults?
[12:53] <tristanmike> what's the purpose of k7, I also have an athelon?
[12:53] <nalioth> totally_noob: ask a question, dont " guys help me"
[12:53] <_chavo> how do you know he's a human?
[12:53] <oxez> I'm an android, of course
[12:53] <kirbturd> you know
[12:53] <totally_noob> nalioth, I asked it, you forget already? "I want to install flash,, so my firefox flash works"
[12:53] <nalioth> the k7 is optimized for amd architexture
[12:53] <kirbturd> i was wondering
[12:53] <_chavo> oh yeah, ubuntu is for humans :)
[12:53] <mgraybill> can someone please help me getting dvdrip installed?
[12:54] <kirbturd> right out of the box
[12:54] <oxez> nalioth: ok, thank you. So, if I install a new kernel do I have to reinstall the ATi driver and ALSA modules?
[12:54] <nalioth> totally_noob: you need to ask about every 5 minutes. "guys help me" doesnt inform those that may have joined or returned since you asked it
[12:54] <kirbturd> everyones screen name is their root local password right
[12:54] <oxez> right
[12:54] <mgraybill> can someone please help me getting dvdrip installed?
[12:54] <Kira> oxez: are you a male or female android?
[12:54] <totally_noob> nalioth, ok
[12:54] <caustictwin> what is a good usenet reader for linux?
[12:54] <oxez> Kira: both ;)
[12:55] <nalioth> kirbturd: have you tried #tor?
[12:55] <kirbturd> not yet
[12:55] <nalioth> caustictwin: try pan
[12:55] <_native_> i get permission denied when doing make-kpkg and make-kpkg clean, and yes i added myself to the src group. i would really like to not have to raise privs unless i have to.
[12:55] <nalioth> _native_: use sudo
[12:55] <mgraybill> how do I instal libdvdread?
[12:55] <nalioth> _native_: or fakeroot
[12:56] <_native_> your not suppose to have with fakeroot yes i have fakeroot
[12:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mgraybill about dvd
[12:56] <totally_noob> I have problem to mount the cdrom
[12:56] <_native_> thats why its weird
[12:57] <binary-boy> does anyone know if breezy will allow easy upgrade from hoary?
[12:57] <nalioth> binary-boy: apt-get is easy as pie
[12:57] <_native_> i have all i need in terms of packages.
[12:57] <kbrooks> binary-boy: all ubuntu versions do
[12:57] <binary-boy> cheers :)
[12:57] <feaces> hey
[12:57] <totally_noob> Do you guys recommend me to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[12:58] <kbrooks> totally_noob: just wait
[12:58] <feaces> soooo
[12:58] <kbrooks> it works for me, might not work for you
[12:58] <Mustard5> totally_noob, wait for full release I would say
[12:58] <feaces> i like
[12:58] <luis> hello
[12:58] <binary-boy> looking forward to gnome menu editor :)
[12:58] <luis> alguien habla espaol?
[12:58] <feaces> feaces is my game
[12:58] <amias> cevizoglu, i just get 404's connecting to ubuntu backports from here (uk,phonecoop)
[12:58] <nalioth> !es
[12:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:59] <_native_> i like my breezy!
[12:59] <luis> ok
[12:59] <nalioth> feaces: take your game to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:59] <feaces> and i like my
[12:59] <luis> como entro a ubuntu-es
[12:59] <luis> ?
[12:59] <Mustard5> coud you set up a seperate kernel and do an upgrade to breezy on a test kernel?
[12:59] <Mustard5> channel split?
[01:00] <nalioth> luis: esta #ubuntu-es
[01:00] <_native_> so dose anyone know why i cant do a make-kpkg unless i sudo even though i have fakeroot installed and know how and when to use it.
[01:00] <_native_> ?
[01:00] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to enable sound in flash?
[01:00] <mylastmorning> ! flash
[01:00] <ubotu> flash is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:00] <nalioth> amias: backports are down atm
[01:00] <luis> gracias nalioth soy primerizo en esto
[01:00] <GDorn> is there something other than xinerama that I should be using to have two monitors active?  it's very frustrating, having new message windows pop up split between the displays
[01:00] <tristanmike> _native_, man fakeroot?
[01:00] <hajiki> luis, /join #ubuntu-es
[01:00] <kbrooks> Mustard5: No.
[01:01] <Kira> !prn
[01:01] <ubotu> Kira: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[01:01] <Mustard5> no?
[01:01] <kbrooks> Mustard5: the upgrade to breezy is global
[01:01] <Kira> !pr0n
[01:01] <ubotu> I don't know, Kira
[01:01] <Mustard5> oh
[01:01] <_native_> dude i know what im doing. !man me
[01:01] <Kira> :(
[01:01] <nalioth> !botabuse
[01:01] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[01:01] <kbrooks> across your system
[01:01] <mgraybill> im actually trying to get dvdrip to install and have been now for about 5 hours
[01:01] <luis> como me brinco a ubunto-es
[01:01] <mgraybill> im new to Debian
[01:01] <kbrooks> mgraybill: debian or ubuntu?
[01:01] <nalioth> mgraybill: you may have to build some programs from source, using apt-get
[01:02] <_jason> luis:  /j #ubuntu-es
[01:02] <hajiki> luis, tecla esto /join #ubuntu-es
[01:02] <Trashcan> X got severely updated?
[01:02] <nalioth> luis: no hablamos espanol, aqui, #ubuntu esta solo ingles
[01:02] <mgraybill> ubuntu
[01:02] <mgraybill> sorr
[01:03] <mgraybill> sorry
[01:03] <Trashcan> theres 89 packages regarding xorg pending install :\
[01:03] <tristanmike> Seveas, do you still have the .deb for 7zip up?
[01:03] <luis> thanks
[01:03] <Mustard5> very good nalioth ..heheh you got this all in scripts?
[01:03] <Mustard5> hehe
[01:03] <luis> ya aprendi algo hoy
[01:03] <nalioth> tristanmike: 7zip is easy to compile
[01:03] <mgraybill> I have follwed the instructions on how to apt-get these programs but none of them seem to work or the arent there to get
[01:03] <hajiki> luis, felicidadez!
[01:03] <nalioth> Mustard5: what stuff?
[01:03] <Seveas> tristanmike, yes
[01:03] <Mustard5> all your replies
[01:04] <tristanmike> nalioth, I don't know how to "compile" still on the beginner stages... :)
[01:04] <nalioth> mgraybill: the ones that arent there to get, need to be build using apt-get
[01:04] <nalioth> tristanmike: learning is great
[01:04] <nalioth> Mustard5: i speak 4 languages
[01:04] <Mustard5> ah very good
[01:04] <tristanmike> Seveas, do you happen to have the address handy, sorry, i forgot to bookmark, *bad tristan, bad*
[01:04] <Mustard5> I'm limited to Aussie English :D
[01:05] <mgraybill> how do I do that? can you direct me to a doc or something?
[01:05] <trunks> Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk-bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible
[01:05] <tristanmike> nalioth, yeah, I love Ubuntu/Linux, I'm have a k-a time with it =)
[01:05] <trunks> how ca&n I fix it please?
[01:05] <nalioth> mgraybill: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:05] <tristanmike> *having
[01:05] <nalioth> tristanmike: you may join #kubuntu-offtopic also
[01:05] <tristanmike> nalioth, thank you, but....why?
[01:06] <Seveas> tristanmike, binaries4all.nl/~dennis/
[01:06] <Milk_> good evenin!!
[01:06] <nalioth> tristanmike: to learn to compile your own stuff
[01:06] <Dreamglider> Hello
[01:06] <tristanmike> Seveas, thanx
[01:06] <tristanmike> nalioth, ok, thanx
[01:06] <kbrooks> nalioth: why is compilation ot here
[01:06] <Navatiu> your probably need w32codec for that i think, milk
[01:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Milk_ about restricted
[01:07] <nalioth> kbrooks: it's not for here, it's so the learning party doesnt have the info swept away in the channel motion
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> any web development professionals in the house?
[01:08] <shadeofgrey> i already discovered NVU but i really need a color harmony application
[01:08] <cafuego_> You think they'd admit it if they were?
[01:08] <Amaranth> shadeofgrey: sort of, depends on the question
[01:08] <shadeofgrey> what the linux equivelant to color schemer stuidio?
[01:08] <Amaranth> shadeofgrey: #web might be more help
[01:08] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: /dev/eye
[01:08] <Seveas> cafuego_, /proc/retina
[01:08] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: There's a few erebsites that ganerate schemes that way, I don't know of a Linux all that does same.
[01:08] <cafuego_> s/erebsites/websites/
[01:09] <Kilter> if I want to create a user just so they exist, but not give them the ability to login to the box via ssh, how do I do it?
[01:09] <cafuego_> Kilter: Set their shell to /bin/true
[01:09] <Milk_> nalioth, I've read that
[01:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Milk_ about w32codecs
[01:09] <cafuego_> Kilter: Or, if you want them to be able to ftp, to /bin/false.
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> so theres no linux application dedicated to generating cololrschemes
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> ?
[01:09] <Kilter> cafuego_: is that a command I can do while creating them?  or something I modify after creation?
[01:09] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: None that I know of.
[01:09] <Milk_> nalioth, already installed
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> that blows
[01:10] <Kilter> I've set up a samba server, but don't want people to ssh into it
[01:10] <Kilter> just access it via the network
[01:10] <cafuego_> Kilter: Up to you. 'man useradd' for the command line; otherwise just 'sudo vi /etc/passwd'
[01:10] <Kilter> ok, will dig it up, thanks
[01:10] <scamz> can someone help me with installing java vm
[01:10] <nalioth> Milk_: the newer microsoft codecs wont play unless you run windows
[01:10] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: I think the idea is that pople can look at colours and decide for themselves ;-)
[01:10] <crispynix> shadeofgrey: KDE comes with a color settings configuration that lets you open/save color scheme, and you can even apply any scheme to any style
[01:10] <Kira> Kilter: you may also consider using iptables as well.
[01:11] <Kira> but maybe that's just me.
[01:11] <Milk_> nalioth, doh.. no ding dong song for me then
[01:11] <misterdiff> hey is there support in the linux kernel yet for pentium d?
[01:11] <biezt_linux> so any1 knows of a ezy way 2 let people upload 2 my site ?
[01:11] <Navatiu> i thought apt-get w32codec would get the codecs. bah. my guesswork.
[01:11] <biezt_linux> should i use a script ?
[01:11] <cafuego_> misterdiff: i686 kernel?
[01:11] <biezt_linux> or is there a possibility ?
[01:12] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: Je kunt ook gewoon engels spreken, hoor.
[01:12] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: webdav, ftp, php file uploads...
[01:12] <ompaul> Navatiu, sudo apt-get install blah << as long as blah is in one of your repos
[01:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Navatiu about w32codecs
[01:12] <Kira> lol w/ cafuego
[01:12] <Navatiu> heh malioth
[01:12] <Navatiu> nalioth
[01:12] <ompaul> !tell Navatiu about repos
[01:13] <wasabi_> There a way to boot hte live cd to console only?
[01:13] <Navatiu> thanks nava. :)
[01:13] <Navatiu> erm.. nalioth
[01:13] <ompaul> Navatiu, if your using a semi intelligent chat client typing the first couple of letters of a users name and tabbing can help a lot
[01:14] <misterdiff> cafuego, nah, i just found out on #gentoo that if i enable smp on the kernel that it should recognize both cores
[01:14] <misterdiff> cafuego, thanks anyway
[01:15] <cafuego_> misterdiff: You cna just install the 686-smp kernel and boot that.
[01:15] <misterdiff> what section of the synaptic package manager is that in?
[01:15] <cafuego_> linux-image-VERSIONSTRING
[01:15] <nalioth> misterdiff: the one in the "search" + kernel
[01:15] <Kira> What's the difference between the complete kernel and the kernel image?
[01:16] <Kira> I mean, I probably understand what the kernel is. But what's this "image" business?
[01:16] <kbrooks> Kira: the kernel image is a compiled version of it
[01:17] <kbrooks> with niceities built in (warnings etc)
[01:17] <N6REJ> I'm beginning to NOT like wireless
[01:17] <N6REJ> I keep losing sync with my router :(
[01:17] <_native_> what card
[01:17] <_native_> i love my wireless
[01:17] <Kira> kbrooks: and that is not the case with just "kernels"?
[01:17] <N6REJ> belkin 54G 35x
[01:18] <funkyHat> i love my wired network :P
[01:18] <N6REJ> the server IS wired :D
[01:18] <N6REJ> my wifes machine does great, but mine for some reason doesn't hold it all the time.
[01:18] <kbrooks> Kira: the kernel from kernel.org is not compiled
[01:18] <_native_>  what chipset i should say
[01:18] <_native_> :-P
[01:18] <N6REJ> hmmmmmmmmmmm.... let me look.
[01:18] <Kira> what about those in the Ubuntu release repositories?
[01:19] <kbrooks> Kira: compiled
[01:19] <_native_> if its not from the src repos ;-P
[01:19] <N6REJ> bcm4306/bcm2050
[01:19] <N6REJ> maybe its because I'm using a "secure" channel?
[01:20] <trunks> hi
[01:20] <_native_> oh man i have found no info on that chipset under linux.
[01:20] <Mustard5> Mark 2 of my last question, ...could you set up a seperate kernel and do an upgrade to breezy on a test kernel on a seperate hard drive?
[01:20] <trunks> cananybody help me?
[01:20] <conflikt> hmm
[01:20] <trunks> Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk-bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible
[01:21] <trunks> how can I fix it?
[01:21] <conflikt> can someone tell me or help on what Mp3 codec to install for xmms
[01:21] <nalioth> trunks: what is your question?
[01:21] <conflikt> hoary isnt too good ;\
[01:21] <Navatiu> why's that
[01:21] <_native_> conflikt, yes
[01:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell conflikt about mp3
[01:22] <trunks> Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk-bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible
[01:22] <trunks> i ve got this pb
[01:22] <biezt_linux> does any1 know how to install php in my linux ?
[01:22] <conflikt> well  i switched from gentoo
[01:22] <biezt_linux> i got apache 2.0 :P
[01:22] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to setup the snes9x emulator?
[01:22] <conflikt> just recently..
[01:22] <trunks> but i can t find this package to try to fix it
[01:22] <conflikt> 2 days ago
[01:22] <_native_> do you know how to add a repository for apt-get to grab packs from
[01:23] <conflikt> yes
[01:23] <N6REJ> hajiaki: looks like I got a bad download... packages are corrupted or missing.
[01:23] <_native_> see the ubuntuguide.org
[01:23] <conflikt> _native_ can portage be installed on ubuntu  ?
[01:23] <_native_> ook
[01:23] <nalioth> _native_: please dont advise ubuntuguide
[01:23] <_native_> i have no idea
[01:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _native_ about ubuntuguide
[01:23] <conflikt> ill keep working with ubuntu ;\
[01:24] <biezt_linux> how do i install php support with my apache ... #apache tells me to ask here ;)
[01:24] <_native_> yes i agree but i was mearly a ref to adding a repo
[01:24] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: apt-get install libapache-mod-php4 (for apache 1.3) and libapache-mod-php4 (for apache2)
[01:24] <N6REJ> whats bad about ubuntuguide?
[01:24] <_native_> its out of date the ubuntu wiki is best
[01:25] <conflikt> yea it is out of date..
[01:25] <N6REJ> oic
[01:25] <cafuego_> !ubuntuguide
[01:25] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:25] <N6REJ> ok, tyvm.
[01:25] <_native_> sticking to official info is always best
[01:25] <cafuego_> N6REJ: How's that P2 running btw?
[01:25] <N6REJ> good info, sense I'm just getting started its best to NOT get any gigo going
[01:26] <N6REJ> better now... I had to change to ext2 and manually partition...  225mb /boot, 39gb /, and 800mb /swap
[01:26] <conflikt> _native_ have you used gentoo before ?
[01:26] <_native_> yes
[01:26] <Vegar> Is it possible to change the email address of a gpg key?
[01:26] <_native_> lots
[01:26] <conflikt> did you like it ?
[01:26] <conflikt> i loved it o_O
[01:26] <openback> hi, I'm trying to get my Treo 650 Palm phone to sync, but it's not being seen by any programs. I'm trying to follow the instructions from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21466&highlight=treo but /dev/ttyUSB1 is never created
[01:26] <conflikt> i think i might just go back to it
[01:26] <biezt_linux> cafuego,  it is not a good package name
[01:27] <conflikt> but ill check out this ubuntu for a little
[01:27] <cafuego_> Vegar: Yes. just add a uid. (gpg --edit-key <keyid>)
[01:27] <_native_> yeah but got tired of compile times
[01:27] <Vegar> cafuego: what about the expiration date? can that be changed/removed?
[01:27] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: Well, why don't you file a bug report and tell the maintainer that.
[01:27] <conflikt> _native_ hmm
[01:27] <bloodnik> Hey, I'm trying to build transcode from source through apt
[01:27] <conflikt> ccache ?
[01:27] <cafuego_> Vegar: Dunno offhand, type 'help' in the edit menu, it'll list all commands.
[01:27] <_native_> dude trust me debian based ubuntu is a sweet distro
[01:27] <conflikt> thers is a ton of stuff to speed up compile time
[01:27] <bloodnik> I installed all the requisites, also from source through apt
[01:28] <Vegar> cafuego_: ok, thanks
[01:28] <conflikt> i had pure debian installed
[01:28] <conflikt> but its so out of date ;\
[01:28] <bloodnik> But now I'm getting undefined reference type compilation errors from transcode
[01:28] <_native_> i found that gentoo broke way more often than my debian and ubuntu boxen
[01:28] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: alternatively, figure out how to seatch for packages in synaptic/aptitude or apt-get.
[01:28] <conflikt> my gentoo never broke
[01:28] <crimsun> bloodnik: we compile it for you in Breezy/multiverse
[01:28] <conflikt> ran it for like 4 months
[01:28] <conflikt> after using Mandrake for like 1 month heh
[01:28] <_native_> no reboots?
[01:28] <hajiki> N6REJ, hows the install going?
[01:28] <bloodnik> That doesn't work, crimsun.
[01:28] <bloodnik> It complains about dependencies.
[01:28] <conflikt> _native_ nope
[01:29] <conflikt> :)
[01:29] <conflikt> i messed up KDE myself though
[01:29] <biezt_linux> cafuego,  it is both the same name .... apache 1.3 and 2.0 :| r u sure u have the good 1 for 2.0 ?
[01:29] <N6REJ> ok, I've got a screen I haven't seen before.
[01:29] <_native_> thats pretty good
[01:29] <conflikt> i even got to use e17 :D
[01:29] <N6REJ> Its asking me which kernel to install
[01:29] <conflikt> cvs
[01:29] <conflikt> e17 is niccccccccccce
[01:29] <conflikt> with entrance ;)
[01:29] <crimsun> bloodnik: Hoary?
[01:29] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: Can you sopeak english or dutch and not that r u 4 crap?
[01:29] <bloodnik> crimsun, yes
[01:29] <hajiki> wth? ive never had that prompt on ubuntu
[01:29] <crimsun> bloodnik: that's why. Dist-upgrade to Breezy and try again.
[01:29] <N6REJ> lol
[01:30] <biezt_linux> sure ... do you really have the good name for the package ?
[01:30] <N6REJ> I swear I'm not halucinating
[01:30] <conflikt> i just dont got the time cause of work to reinstall gentoo
[01:30] <conflikt> ;\
[01:30] <biezt_linux> since you have 2 identical names
[01:30] <luis> jump/ #ubuntu-es
[01:30] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: libapache-mod-php4 and libapache2-mod-php4, yep.
[01:30] <openback> can someone help me out with my udev, I think. My Palm phone is recognized when connected, but it just says a "full speed USB device using....", nothing about it actually recognizing what it is...
[01:31] <inthenow> do speedstream dsl modems work no problem in ubuntu?
[01:31] <bloodnik> crimsun, do you mean just do a dist-upgrade, which will upgrade to Breezy? Or do I need to edit my sources.list to say breey rather than hoary?
[01:31] <cafuego_> !info libapache2-mod-php4
[01:31] <N6REJ> choices are :  Linux-386,  Linux-image-386, Linux-image-2.6.10-5.386
[01:31] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 4:4.3.10-10ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 1553 kB, Installed size: 3108 kB
[01:31] <crimsun> bloodnik: you would need to fully dist-upgrade to Breezy
[01:31] <luis> #ubuntu -es
[01:31] <hajiki> im sure they are all the same
[01:31] <obiyoda> I just installed a dual head card on my ubuntu system how do I get the second monitor to work.
[01:31] <nalioth> luis: escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[01:31] <N6REJ> linux-386 it is
[01:31] <trunks> sorry
[01:31] <trunks> i had a pb of pc
[01:31] <N6REJ> just as an fyi, it was unable to install sendmail
[01:32] <cafuego_> N6REJ: After install you can replace that with linux-image-2.6.12-9-686
[01:32] <N6REJ> cc
[01:32] <trunks> Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk-bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible
[01:32] <N6REJ> just gotta get'r going first
[01:32] <trunks> i can t find this package
[01:32] <cafuego_> N6REJ: Good, sendmail is shit. Postfix is FAR nicer to work with :-)
[01:32] <trunks> i want to erase this error
[01:32] <bloodnik> crimsun, noobify that a bit more for me? :) Can I do that here or am I going to have to get a Breezy CD?
[01:32] <Earthen> I just bought a new laptop is there some place i can go look to see how compatible it will be with Linux (Ubuntu)?
[01:32] <N6REJ> :)
[01:32] <kbrooks> did you all get updates yet
[01:32] <cafuego_> Earthen: Try www.linux-laptop.net
[01:32] <hajiki> i though ubuntu used postfix by default?
[01:33] <N6REJ> it think it was a bug in the script in hoary because hoary said it didn't exist LOL
[01:33] <Earthen> cafuego: thanks! will do
[01:33] <crimsun> bloodnik: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[01:33] <cafuego_> Earthen: If it's not listed there, google is your friend.
[01:33] <N6REJ> I thought so too.
[01:33] <N6REJ> <--- hates sendmail
[01:33] <kbrooks> hajiki: maybe it does
[01:33] <conflikt> ehh
[01:33] <kbrooks> !info postfix warty
[01:33] <obiyoda> N6REJ: try qmail
[01:33] <ubotu> postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is important. Version: 2.1.3-1ubuntu17 (warty), Packaged size: 745 kB, Installed size: 1848 kB
[01:33] <kbrooks> !info postfix hoary
[01:33] <Earthen> cafuego: I tried google but didn't find much too my likeing, but I only googled for anout 5 min's LOL
[01:33] <ubotu> postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is important. Version: 2.1.5-9ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 772 kB, Installed size: 1892 kB
[01:33] <kbrooks> !info postfix breezy
[01:34] <ubotu> postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is optional. Version: 2.2.4-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 889 kB, Installed size: 2140 kB
[01:34] <conflikt> i dont see anything on the wiki for mp3 codec
[01:34] <conflikt> o_O
[01:34] <conflikt> well not for hoary
[01:34] <kbrooks> Yup, all do, but postfix was made optional
[01:34] <kbrooks> in breezy
[01:34] <_native_> UserDocumentation -> restricted formats
[01:34] <conflikt> _native_
[01:34] <_native_> i think
[01:34] <conflikt> im there
[01:34] <memin> jump/ #ubuntu-es
[01:34] <conflikt> i did what they said
[01:34] <conflikt> no work
[01:35] <conflikt> and when i cntrl +P xmms there is no mp3 codec there
[01:35] <_native_> so did you already add universe repository?
[01:35] <conflikt> ummm yes
[01:35] <_native_> ok
[01:35] <N6REJ> 40% installed base
[01:36] <HairToOk> hello
[01:36] <conflikt> i got the win32codes
[01:36] <HairToOk> we have to speak only english here plz?
[01:36] <_native_> do they work? the
[01:36] <_native_> w32codecs i mean
[01:36] <kbrooks> yer only english HairToOk
[01:36] <conflikt> there isnt a mp3 codec in that
[01:36] <HairToOk> ok thx
[01:36] <conflikt> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse is the one i could not apt-get
[01:37] <HairToOk> i'm testing ubuntu first time this nihgt
[01:37] <conflikt> i tried to get k3b-mp3 wouldnt let me
[01:37] <biezt_linux> so does anyone know the name of the package containing php for apache 2.0 ??? search doesn't work it gives no apache and php
[01:37] <nalioth> HairToOk: franais en #ubuntu-fr
[01:38] <HairToOk> cool thx nalioth
[01:38] <conflikt> how do you fix broken packages ?
[01:38] <conflikt> i cant get gstreamer-lame that has a mp3 codec cause liblame0 is broke
[01:38] <conflikt> grr
[01:38] <thierry_> hi, I have a problem with GDM : I can't remove my old kernel from GDM, even if their package is not installed anymore
[01:38] <conflikt> well wrong version
[01:39] <thierry_> conflikt : did you tried to remove it and then reinstall it?
[01:39] <propagandhi> can someone help with adding the gpg key for the Restricted formats repository
[01:39] <conflikt> thierry
[01:39] <_native_> im sorry confikt im really busy so my attention to xchat is back and forth.
[01:39] <conflikt> gstreamer0.8-lame: Depends: liblame0 (>= 3.96.1-1) but it is not installable
[01:39] <activelow> anyone get an ipod to work with ubuntu?  Mine doenst work, I get usb 2-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -71.. I tried installing gtkpod and it still wont see it
[01:39] <thierry_> conflikt : have you read the ubuntu guide?
[01:40] <conflikt> thierry yes!
[01:40] <biezt_linux> can anyone search the name for the php package of apache 2.0 ?
[01:40] <thierry_> activelow : does this happens only with ipods or with any usb interface?
[01:40] <_native_> !ubuntuguide
[01:40] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:40] <N6REJ> 92%
[01:41] <conflikt> ubuntuguide dont work
[01:41] <activelow> thierry_:  usb works great for mice and keydrives, but it doesnt detect the ipod as a mass storage device, I just get that usb error
[01:41] <conflikt> not for mp3 codec
[01:41] <Zealot> so i dont think i made a swap drive
[01:41] <Zealot> haha
[01:41] <conflikt> you gotta be kidding me no one in here got mp3 codec for hoary ?
[01:41] <thierry_> conflikt : it's hard to say since I'm on breezy right now
[01:42] <misterdiff> ok, so i'm about to go buy a pc in a few minutes and i need to decide. intel pentium d or athlon 64 x2
[01:42] <misterdiff> so which one do you all like folks>?
[01:42] <Zealot> athlon 64 d
[01:42] <Zealot> x2 i mean
[01:42] <Zealot> hah
[01:42] <misterdiff> Zealot, why
[01:42] <conflikt> ill reinstall hoary when its stable ;\
[01:42] <thierry_> activelow : mmm don't know, I'm on breezy and I don't have any ipod at hand so...
[01:43] <_native_> time to go vote, yeah gonna rock the vote!
[01:43] <conflikt> _native_
[01:43] <thierry_> conflikt : hoary IS stable!
[01:43] <conflikt> ehh
[01:43] <_native_> what
[01:43] <conflikt> thierry i dunno bout that
[01:43] <conflikt> o_O
[01:43] <biezt_linux> can anyone search the real package name for php with apache 2.0 ?
[01:43] <Zealot> misterdiff, because athlon 64 is very stable and clocks easier, and i think athlon makes quality chips over intel
[01:44] <biezt_linux> spt-cache search php4 does nothing
[01:44] <biezt_linux> apt
[01:44] <Hitao> text
[01:44] <N6REJ> I remember reading you have to manually compile/install those two.
[01:44] <Zealot> and if you get two 64 chips thats a good deal over a pentium
[01:44] <N6REJ> will cpan work with ubuntu?
[01:44] <_native_> conflikt, its a proprietry format issue not a stability issue all you need is a couple of packages
[01:44] <Zealot> but does anyone know how i can partition a sawp drive in ubuntu?
[01:44] <Mustard5> the libmod-php4 one?
[01:44] <keikoz> Zealot like others partitions
[01:44] <conflikt> _native_; i installed everything the wiki said..............
[01:44] <keikoz> just mkswap it
[01:45] <Zealot> i've never partitioned in ubuntu
[01:45] <BooZee> where (in the filesystem) are the source code for my linux ?
[01:45] <keikoz> fdisk
[01:45] <Zealot> in terminal?
[01:45] <keikoz> yes
[01:45] <N6REJ> BooZee: the entire drive is source!
[01:45] <conflikt> mkswap /dev/hda1 ect
[01:45] <conflikt> swapon /dev/hda1 ect
[01:45] <N6REJ> per se'
[01:45] <biezt_linux> Mustard5, what is the search command ?
[01:45] <bimberi> BooZee: in /usr/src - but only if you've installed the linux-source package
[01:45] <biezt_linux> i find nothing ...
[01:46] <conflikt> zealot
[01:46] <BooZee> where was the option to do so?
[01:46] <conflikt> its not hard
[01:46] <conflikt> fdisk
[01:46] <thierry_> biezt_linux : could that be apache2 ?
[01:46] <conflikt> delete all the active partitions
[01:46] <conflikt> make a main partion of like 32+M
[01:46] <N6REJ> hijaiki: its sitting at 50% "testing network repository" and I have the cat5 disco'd per your recommendation
[01:46] <Mustard5> biezt_linux, I'm typing it into synaptic
[01:46] <conflikt> make it active
[01:46] <biezt_linux> thierry_, don't know .. i need the add-on which makes php ossible :O
[01:46] <biezt_linux> possible
[01:46] <bimberi> BooZee: search for linux-source in Synaptic and install the version matching our kernel version
[01:46] <Mustard5> I can see a libapachemod-ph4
[01:47] <BooZee> bimberi: which is.. ?
[01:47] <Mustard5> *php4
[01:47] <Zealot> conflikt
[01:47] <thierry_> biezt_linux : maybe try apt-cache search apache2
[01:47] <BooZee> running hoary
[01:47] <conflikt> Zealot illl msg u and tell u how
[01:47] <bimberi> BooZee: 2.6.10 for Hoary :)
[01:47] <Zealot> ok thanks
[01:47] <_native_> got to go.............
[01:47] <bimberi> BooZee: "uname -r" in a terminal will tell you
[01:47] <conflikt> Zealot do you have AIM ?
[01:47] <Zealot> yeah
[01:47] <Zealot> shardzealot
[01:48] <conflikt> aim=
[01:48] <conflikt> 1 min le tme sign on ill walk u threw it ;)
[01:48] <conflikt> u want reiserfs ?
[01:48] <conflikt> much more faster
[01:48] <conflikt> then ext3 or ext2
[01:48] <Zealot> reserfs?
[01:48] <Zealot> what is that
[01:48] <conflikt> o_O
[01:48] <conflikt> a fs
[01:48] <conflikt> lol
[01:49] <Zealot> i dunno what your talkin about hah
[01:49] <N6REJ> yep had to reconnect the nic to get it to go further
[01:50] <biezt_linux> can it be possible that php is installed automatically in apache2 ?
[01:51] <trunks> i've got a pb with libatk-bridge
[01:51] <trunks> how can i solve it?
[01:51] <Mustard5> is libapache2-mod-php4 is no good?
[01:52] <biezt_linux> Mustard5,  it says it's no good :|
[01:52] <_native_> ok i have got to know why i cant fakeroot make-kpkg options target blahh... even though i am member group src
[01:53] <N6REJ> nope
[01:53] <N6REJ> php is an apache module
[01:53] <biezt_linux> N6REJ,  u got an idea ?
[01:53] <N6REJ> you trying to install php?
[01:53] <biezt_linux> y
[01:53] <biezt_linux> yes
[01:53] <biezt_linux> on apache 2
[01:54] <j0nas`> hey... im having a little trouble with my wireless connection... could someone lend me a hand?
[01:54] <biezt_linux> but i can't find the package name ! is there a package ?
[01:54] <N6REJ> ok, I don't know ubuntu, but in general linux, you get the perl and php & apache sources, and then follow the instruction at apache.org
[01:54] <cork_ubuntu> i was of the understanding that php and apache packages were easy to install
[01:54] <erisco> hello, just a very quick question.... how do I update my macromedia flash>
[01:54] <N6REJ> no, not for ubuntu!  the wiki has info... hang on.
[01:54] <Mustard5> I can see libapache-mod-php4
[01:54] <N6REJ> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:55] <moparfan90> hello.
[01:55] <elad`> 1. How do I change the keyboard shortcuts? 2. Link: http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/9973/screenshot20cd.png I want to make the background transparent while keeping the lambda as it currently is.
[01:55] <cork_ubuntu> hiznet, did you try just searching for apache* when using synaptic
[01:55] <moparfan90> if i install ubuntu 64bit can i install mplayer and all those things + win32 codecs in 32 bit format?
[01:55] <erisco> i am looking for a command for my command line... i used one to install flash.... apt-get command most likely
[01:55] <Mustard5> libapache-mod-php4
[01:55] <Mustard5> server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 1.3 module)
[01:55] <N6REJ> biezt_linux that should do it for yah :D
[01:55] <Mustard5> not it?
[01:55] <nalioth> moparfan90: you'll have to run them in a chroot environment which can get to be a pita
[01:56] <thierry_> elad` : go see in system->preferences-> keyboard shortcuts
[01:56] <cork_ubuntu> moparfan, i seen that there are tricks to doing that in the wiki
[01:56] <biezt_linux> N6REJ, nope the package doesn't exist :|
[01:56] <cork_ubuntu> look under ubuntu64
[01:56] <erisco> hmm i guess no one can help me on this one....
[01:56] <cork_ubuntu> its convulted but laid out well
[01:56] <biezt_linux> apt-get install php4 does nothing :s
[01:57] <thierry_> erisco : I think ubuntu guide explain this one
[01:57] <erisco> biezt_linux.... what is the error?
[01:57] <elad`> Erm?
[01:57] <Dreamglider> how do i become root in ubuntu ?
[01:57] <moparfan90> oo
[01:57] <cork_ubuntu> you dont!!
[01:57] <moparfan90> sudo -i
[01:57] <erisco> dream you are not meant to
[01:57] <elad`> Oops, I meant to post that on the other channel I'm on. Sorry.
[01:57] <N6REJ> lol, look at the VERY bottom of the screen... where it says FURTHER
[01:57] <cork_ubuntu> sudo [app] 
[01:57] <moparfan90> Dreamglider, cork_ubuntu, you can type sudo -i
[01:58] <kbrooks> moparfan90: thats -s
[01:58] <erisco> dream, you use sudo and then your command for root
[01:58] <kbrooks> not -i
[01:58] <bimberi> kbrooks: that's -s or -i
[01:58] <cork_ubuntu> thank you
[01:58] <erisco> like sudo apt-get install package
[01:58] <moparfan90> no its sudo -i
[01:58] <cork_ubuntu> i knew i was doing something right these last 10 years of using linux
[01:58] <N6REJ> you don't use su root?
[01:58] <erisco> no
[01:58] <moparfan90> no not on ubuntu
[01:58] <Navatiu> !tell navatiu about sudo
[01:58] <erisco> it is sudo with ubuntu
[01:59] <kbrooks> bimberi: was under the impression that -i meant clear the environment.....
[01:59] <erisco> sudo comes from su tho
[01:59] <cafuego_> moparfan90: You can install and run mplayer in a 32bit chroot via 'dchroot' Once it's set up, it's transparent.
[01:59] <N6REJ> OMG, I'm going to have so much to relearn LOL
[01:59] <erisco> yeah i am in the process of it
[01:59] <moparfan90> cafuego_, oo is that hard.... i am getting a AMD athlon 64 2800 in a week
[01:59] <cork_ubuntu> my only complaint with ubuntu, and one that wasnt its fault was with a crap soundcard
[01:59] <punkass> does anyone know of good software for laying out a floor plan ??
[01:59] <bimberi> kbrooks: yes it simulates a root logon shell, but sometimes that's desirable
[01:59] <GDorn> yikes.  how many times is this going to regenerate the fonts cache?
[01:59] <cork_ubuntu> never ever ever ever ever buy one based on cmi chipsets
[02:00] <cork_ubuntu> they are shite
[02:00] <trunks> c etait le package at-spi
[02:00] <cafuego_> moparfan90: No, it's trivial. just takes abit of time. (I have a 2800+ too)
[02:00] <N6REJ> via/nvidia or bust!
[02:00] <rob_p> elad`:  did you figure out the transparency issue with your graphic?
[02:00] <cafuego_> !chroot
[02:00] <ubotu> from memory, chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:00] <erisco> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla haha i found it
[02:00] <cork_ubuntu> i went out bought one on a foremedia and its great
[02:00] <cork_ubuntu> hey...someones using an amd2800+
[02:00] <cork_ubuntu> are they any good. quick?
[02:00] <N6REJ> I just got a semperon 2800 from a athlon xp 1700.  I'm shocked at how big a diff it is. even though its the same cpu speed
[02:00] <cork_ubuntu> the 64 bit cpu i mean
[02:00] <erisco> gee i use one of those... not now tho
[02:00] <moparfan90> cafuego_, cool. is 64-bit ubuntu alot faster hen 32-bit?
[02:01] <N6REJ> VERY!
[02:01] <cafuego_> cork_ubuntu: Yes, extremely fast (Though not as far as say a 4200+)
[02:01] <cork_ubuntu> wow dude
[02:01] <cork_ubuntu> my budget is finite
[02:01] <N6REJ> I couldn't play Redux before, now it flys, even with an old video card.
[02:01] <N6REJ> same here.
[02:01] <cork_ubuntu> 200 bucks max in a quarter
[02:01] <N6REJ> go to tiger and get a good asus mb
[02:01] <cafuego_> moparfan90: Not, not really on day to day jobs. The only palce it makes much difference, video encoding etc, isn't really ported properly.
[02:02] <moparfan90> oo
[02:02] <cafuego_> N6REJ: I'm not touching those with a ten foot pole, Gigabyte all the way.
[02:02] <N6REJ> giga is great also
[02:02] <StyXman> stupid question of the day: anyone else experimenting transfer rate probles with security.ubuntu.com?
[02:02] <cork_ubuntu> currently upgraded from a celeraon 500 to a 1.4g p4
[02:02] <moparfan90> im going to try a windows zp 64-bit edition trial
[02:02] <cafuego_> moparfan90: ... and by using Ubuntu you also don't get a lot of compile work.
[02:02] <cork_ubuntu> so all those talks of 64 bits at warp speed aint for me!
[02:02] <moparfan90> cafuego_,o
[02:02] <cafuego_> moparfan90: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 explains exactly what and how to set up :-)
[02:03] <cork_ubuntu> styxman!!
[02:03] <cork_ubuntu> yes
[02:03] <moparfan90> ok thanks  alot
[02:03] <cork_ubuntu> and on the mirror for ireland
[02:03] <cork_ubuntu> its like so slow
[02:03] <cork_ubuntu> about 15k/s
[02:03] <crimsun> Is anyone on amd64-generic and using an Intel High Definition Audio chipset?
[02:04] <StyXman> cork_ubuntu: you lucky bastard, I get less that 3KiB/s!
[02:04] <StyXman> than*
[02:04] <cork_ubuntu> lmao
[02:04] <cork_ubuntu> i was on about the general site
[02:04] <moparfan90> cafuego_, i have breezy
[02:04] <cork_ubuntu> security can be slower, about 5 or 5
[02:04] <cork_ubuntu> 5 or 6
[02:04] <cafuego_> moparfan90: *nod* me too.
[02:04] <biezt_linux> so it is possible my package list is out of date ??
[02:04] <cafuego_> moparfan90: What video card?
[02:04] <moparfan90> is breezy in 64 bit?
[02:04] <Navatiu> i think disabled the root acccount on ubuntu part is very good idea to me.
[02:04] <cork_ubuntu> guys im new to irc
[02:04] <propagandhi83> does anyone know how to install the GPG key for the restricted formats repo
[02:04] <cafuego_> moparfan90: Yes, breezy64.
[02:05] <moparfan90> nvidia GeFource FX 5200 128 DDR
[02:05] <moparfan90> ok
[02:05] <cork_ubuntu> is there a way i can keep track of only one thread or something?
[02:05] <gigaclon> cork_ubuntu, hi and welcome
[02:05] <gigaclon> no
[02:05] <cafuego_> moparfan90: Cool, the nvidia driver works fine on 64bit sustems.
[02:05] <moparfan90> cool
[02:05] <cork_ubuntu> thx gigaclon
[02:05] <chsguy55> hey guys can i get someone to help me real quick.. please
[02:05] <N6REJ> mopar that the same card I have, just mines about 3 years old
[02:05] <moparfan90> N6REJ, mine to
[02:05] <gigaclon> chsguy55, whats your question
[02:05] <cork_ubuntu> old hardware collector here
[02:05] <StyXman> cork_ubuntu: yes, this channels tend to be messy to read
[02:05] <cork_ubuntu> lol
[02:05] <N6REJ> I love it but would sure like a 6800
[02:05] <Dreamglider> i need to make a dir called pc in etc/x11/xkb/symbols/ but im not allowed becaus a file is called pc what can i do about this ?
[02:06] <moparfan90> N6REJ, when  i got it, it was almost the best out there
[02:06] <StyXman> so you must train your eyes to do some pattern recognition on the nicks of everyone
[02:06] <cork_ubuntu> sudo mkdir /blah/blah..
[02:06] <N6REJ> yep, same here.
[02:06] <chsguy55> well first of all how do i send you a message back ? gigaclon
[02:06] <j0nas`> anyone using wireless with WEP?
[02:06] <chsguy55> whats the command
[02:06] <gigaclon> just say my name
[02:06] <j0nas`> im having a little trouble getting mine to work
[02:06] <chemisus> sometimes, why?
[02:06] <chemisus> i recommend the WIFI spray
[02:06] <StyXman> cork_ubuntu: no, he has a file already named like that
[02:07] <j0nas`> :)
[02:07] <moparfan90> does anyone know if he game  quake 4   will work on linux??
[02:07] <occy> Trying to talk my neighbors into using Ubuntu.  They are willing to give it a try!
[02:07] <cork_ubuntu> oops
[02:07] <StyXman> cork_ubuntu: and also say to who you're talking to
[02:07] <j0nas`> chemisus: intel iw2200?
[02:07] <StyXman> anyways, time to part
[02:07] <cork_ubuntu> see trying to watch everything. sorry thx styman
[02:07] <chemisus> j0nas`: nah
[02:07] <j0nas`> ah
[02:07] <gigaclon> nick completion is wonder full
[02:07] <StyXman> gigaclon: yes, indeed
[02:07] <MetalWolf> hi...
[02:07] <obiyoda> does any one have an example of an xorg.conf file for a dual head nvidia geforce4 card?
[02:07] <j0nas`> tab completion in any sense is wonderful
[02:07] <moparfan90> hello
[02:08] <cork_ubuntu> i love my console :-)
[02:08] <cork_ubuntu> my favourite quote, linux is user friendly, its choosy about what users its freindly with :-)
[02:08] <wolfsbaine> hello can anyone answer a little question for me ?
[02:09] <cafuego_>  moparfan90surely idsoft have a linux binary
[02:09] <gigaclon> chsguy55, if you want to send me a private message its /msg gigaclon, but it is best to ask the whole channel at once, if you type my name the line will stand out for me to easily read
[02:09] <chsguy55> ok well... i am trying to download some games.. and the seem not to be showing up.. ive researched on the internet.. and did what it told me to and still nothing... i even logged out and came back in
[02:09] <cork_ubuntu> will try wolfsbaine
[02:09] <wolfsbaine> how do i use gcc4 to install mplayer ?
[02:09] <Vegar> is my gpg key supposed to be signed by myself every time I send a change?
[02:09] <gigaclon> chsguy55, where from and with what browser
[02:09] <moparfan90> does anyone here know if the game    'QUAKE 4' will work on linux?
[02:09] <nalioth> Vegar: change what?
[02:09] <wolfsbaine> i've tried typing make and configure in bash
[02:09] <Vegar> nalioth: UIDs
[02:09] <nalioth> wolfsbaine: install "build-essentials"
[02:10] <chsguy55> synaptic package manager
[02:10] <wolfsbaine> tried doing a find on make
[02:10] <nalioth> Vegar: i'm stupid and dont understand
[02:10] <gigaclon> moparfan90, try cedega
[02:10] <moparfan90> no i mean will it be made for linux also?
[02:10] <wolfsbaine> do i just type that into the command prompt ?
[02:10] <Vegar> nalioth: My key gets signed by myself every time I add a new email address or change the primary.
[02:10] <MetalWolf> I attempted to upgrade firefox using apt-get I got a few problems which i narrowed down to me having an odd apt location.  which i have removed and now firefox will not work.  I have tried apt-get remove firefox then apt-get install firefox but that hasn't helped.  any ideas?
[02:10] <BooZee> i've used Synaptic to download the source code. It downloaded a file into the /usr/src dir called linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2. how can I unpack it?
[02:10] <nalioth> wolfsbaine: use synaptic
[02:10] <wolfsbaine> cool i'll have a looke
[02:10] <moparfan90> wolfsbaine, what are you trying to do?
[02:10] <cork_ubuntu> general:: my kde is still at 3.4.0 despite doing regular updates am i missing something?
[02:11] <nalioth> Vegar: i have no idea, try #gnupg
[02:11] <shadeofgrey> hey guys i need help
[02:11] <Vegar> nalioth: ok
[02:11] <gigaclon> shadeofgrey, with what?
[02:11] <wolfsbaine> initially just geting to grips with ubuntu, tryn to install prog
[02:11] <moparfan90> oo
[02:11] <shadeofgrey> i still cant fijnd a good color harmonizing application...  is there anywhere online through the ubuntu website that i can find a list of the most useful/powerful applications for web development?
[02:11] <moparfan90> use synpatic if yourew to linux
[02:12] <agentfelix> i have a question is anyone available to answer?
[02:12] <cork_ubuntu> i do web dev, my 2 tools of choice are quanta and gimp
[02:12] <moparfan90> you new*
[02:12] <wolfsbaine> yeah but that won't install mplayer
[02:12] <wolfsbaine> i'm using breezy
[02:12] <moparfan90> dont ask to ask just ask
[02:12] <Amaranth> agentfelix: Just ask and see if someone can help.
[02:12] <moparfan90> , just ask    dont ask to ask
[02:12] <cafuego_> I do web dev too. my tools of choice are ssh and vim.
[02:13] <moparfan90> agentfelix,  just ask    dont ask to ask
[02:13] <gigaclon> shadeofgrey, try browsing the Synaptic categorys
[02:13] <shadeofgrey> cork:  i need something that will generate lists of complimentary colors using various base values
[02:13] <BooZee> i've used Synaptic to download the source code. It downloaded a file into the /usr/src dir called linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2. how can I unpack it?
[02:13] <shadeofgrey> like colr schwemer studio for windows....
[02:13] <Amaranth> cafuego_: gnome-vfs and gedit here
[02:13] <moparfan90>  just ask    dont ask to ask, try GIMP
[02:13] <cork_ubuntu> never heard of it
[02:13] <agentfelix> i want to partition the drive keep 40gb's to windows xp pro the cracked version of course and then 20gbs to Ubuntu...so can i install ubuntu from dos to the assigned drive?
[02:13] <cafuego_> Amaranth: :-)
[02:13] <Amaranth> shadeofgrey: A quick google search will give you a website to do that.
[02:14] <cork_ubuntu> being honest ive been programming 15 years and havent had windows on this box in the last 10
[02:14] <gigaclon> BooZee, right click
[02:14] <chsguy55> I am using synaptic package manager to download programs and i have been trying to download games and they are not showing up. I have searched the internet and have done what they told me to do and as well as log out and come back in.. but still it does not show up.. can anyone help.. thanks
[02:14] <moparfan90> good for you
[02:14] <shadeofgrey> actually this is probably easier..  how do i set up WINE so that I can just try installing the windows app that i use for colors selections that i like so mucvh?
[02:14] <cafuego_> Amaranth: for some reason my gedit can't open certain vfs-ssh dirs. it's peculiar (naultilus opens 'em fine)
[02:14] <moparfan90> chsguy55, what game are you trying to install?
[02:14] <gigaclon> chsguy55, are there greenbox next to the name of the game?
[02:15] <Mustard5> chsguy55, try the 'run application' in your application menu?
[02:15] <gigaclon> chsguy55, if so try typing the name of the game in a terminal
[02:15] <shadeofgrey> the odds that itll work are slim, but theres still a chance that it might, and its really the best program ive ever seen for the job...
[02:15] <Amaranth> cafuego_: gedit bug, it can only open them read-only
[02:15] <cork_ubuntu> shadeofgrey, there was a good tutorial on that on one of the nz linux wikis
[02:15] <Amaranth> cafuego_: i just save them locally and drag-and-drop
[02:15] <cork_ubuntu> asfaik that was where i seen it
[02:15] <agentfelix> is anyone going to answer my question?
[02:15] <shadeofgrey> cork:  care to narrow it down to WHICH wikis?
[02:15] <kbrooks> how do i use valgrind
[02:15] <Mustard5> I don't know agentfelix
[02:15] <gigaclon> agentfelix, is it already partitioned?
[02:16] <agentfelix> obviously not since im on it now
[02:16] <cork_ubuntu> shadeofgrey, i only used it once, its in nz a linux user group
[02:16] <agentfelix> would i have to put windows on both
[02:16] <agentfelix> then install ubuntu
[02:16] <cork_ubuntu> shadeofgrey, try googling it with ubuntu
[02:16] <cafuego_> Urgh
[02:16] <gigaclon> you only put windows on one partition
[02:16] <cork_ubuntu> shadeofgrey, look out for the nz sites
[02:17] <gigaclon> agentfelix, open up "My Computer"
[02:17] <agentfelix> you can put windows on both partitions
[02:17] <cork_ubuntu> Why would anyone go back to using windows, all i miss are the headaches :-)
[02:17] <gigaclon> how may drives does it show
[02:17] <agentfelix> the MBR is the same
[02:17] <cork_ubuntu> even my wife doesnt use her windows box anymore :-)
[02:17] <wolfsbaine> ok so i'm still struggling to install mplayer, can't do it thru synaptic, says probably not available for my platform alltough multiverse is enable in repositeries
[02:17] <agentfelix> just one i didn't partition it yet
[02:17] <obiyoda> does anybody use ubuntu with a dual display? If so how did you get it to work.
[02:17] <BooZee> gigaclon: if i open it with the regular program, I get a "not privladge"  to do things in the directory. it doesn't pop up a rquest for a pass
[02:18] <cork_ubuntu> wolfsbaine and others ill get that wiki site in nz..brb
[02:18] <gigaclon> !tell BooZee about sudo
[02:18] <BooZee> ye I know, but how can I use it with the graphical tool?
[02:18] <gigaclon> BooZee ubotu todl you something
[02:18] <dasShHh123> #batangas
[02:18] <erisco> does anyone know why when i try to play tactics arena online (http://www.tacticsarena.com/play/) it won't fully load into the game? it stops at the second screen.
[02:19] <erisco> i think this may be a general problem and just not for that specific flash application
[02:19] <cafuego_> Because it's dirty proprietary crap?
[02:19] <erisco> would there be an issue with using firefox?
[02:19] <gigaclon> agentfelix, you want to use windows and Ubuntu on the same computer
[02:20] <cafuego_> flash on Linux is at best shit and at work broken, make of that what you will..
[02:20] <popey> cafuego_: works for me
[02:20] <calc> cafuego_: s/on Linux//
[02:20] <cafuego_> popey: It might work, but it's still shit.
[02:20] <popey> although it *is* shit :D
[02:20] <popey> :)
[02:20] <Dreamglider> Hello i have to make a dir called pc in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ but a file is called pc so i m not premitted to make the dir help me!
[02:20] <cafuego_> s/work/worst/
[02:20] <erisco> i will also note when i view macromedia.com i cannot see their navigation bar up top. well i can see it, but no text between on it.
[02:21] <_jason> cafuego:  why is it shit?  It works fine for me.
[02:21] <calc> flash is shit because all it is used for is crappy advertisements
[02:21] <kbrooks> Dreamglider: what is the exact command you used to make the directory
[02:21] <_jason> calc:  I'll agree with that
[02:21] <cafuego_> _jason: the whole idea of using a proprietary non-portable publish platform is BAD.
[02:21] <calc> cafuego_: yea and that too ;)
[02:21] <Amaranth> Dreamglider: Upgrading from hoary to breezy?
[02:21] <erisco> it is also used for some fun games too =p
[02:21] <cork_ubuntu> who was looking for mplayer and multimedia on ubuntu?
[02:21] <_jason> cafuego:  are there any open source alternatives?
[02:21] <elad`> I want to completely get rid of the system bell in all of its forms.
[02:22] <hajiki> i love flash advertising, i dont use flash so i dont get the ads :)
[02:22] <erisco> oh wait i can see the macromedia text again... weird
[02:22] <calc> svg and something else iirc
[02:22] <cafuego_> _jason: there's no need for alternatives.
[02:22] <Dreamglider> kbrooks, mkdir /pc
[02:22] <elad`> I'm sick of the PC speaker beeping at me when I click backspace once more than necessary.
[02:22] <cafuego_> _jason: But yes, svg can do vector animations and AJAX can do interactivity.
[02:22] <kbrooks> Dreamglider: full command
[02:22] <erisco> is there a way i can dump my temporary internet files?
[02:22] <calc> of course IE doesn't even properly support png so don't worry about it ever supporting svg
[02:22] <erisco> maybe if i completely reload the application
[02:22] <cork_ubuntu> wolfsbaine, http://www.wlug.org.nz/UbuntuPostInstall
[02:22] <Dreamglider> kbrooks, that's what i did !
[02:22] <kbrooks> erisco: VERY VERY VERY easy
[02:23] <j0nas`> need to hide your porn eriso? ;)
[02:23] <cork_ubuntu> that shoudl help with all mplayer and multimedia stuff
[02:23] <erisco> then enlighten me kbrooks
[02:23] <cork_ubuntu> its how i got my stuff up and working easily wolfsbaine
[02:23] <j0nas`> erisco*
[02:23] <Dreamglider> root@regin:/etc/X11/xkb/symbols# mkdir /pc
[02:23] <Dreamglider> mkdir: cannot create directory `/pc': File exist
[02:23] <erisco> yeh get the name right bub
[02:23] <kbrooks> erisco: edit > preferences
[02:23] <Dreamglider> it wont let me :/
[02:23] <wolfsbaine> thanx m8 ;o) i'll have a read
[02:23] <hyphenated> Dreamglider: read the whole message
[02:23] <cork_ubuntu> wolfsbaine, its a shell script
[02:23] <cork_ubuntu> dont read, run ;-)
[02:24] <hyphenated> Dreamglider: especially the last two words
[02:24] <wolfsbaine> ok, i'll have a bash ;)
[02:24] <cork_ubuntu> lmao
[02:24] <cork_ubuntu> oh one snag wolfsbaine
[02:24] <erisco> strange.... a "clear temporary internet files" button is not hitting me in the head....
[02:24] <wolfsbaine> uh hu
[02:25] <erisco> i only see one for history... forms... etc
[02:25] <Dreamglider> well i'm trying to make a dir,  i know about the file called pc
[02:25] <cork_ubuntu> remove the shite about adobe
[02:25] <cork_ubuntu> that doesnt work for me
[02:25] <rob_p> elad`:  System --> Preferences --> Sound --> System Bell, uncheck, "Sound an audible bell" should do it.
[02:25] <elad`> Thanks.
[02:25] <kbrooks> erisco: privacy
[02:25] <wolfsbaine> cool no probs
[02:25] <erisco> yeah that is what i am in kbrooks
[02:25] <calc> erisco: privacy -> cache
[02:25] <wolfsbaine> i'll have a shot later
[02:25] <chsguy55> where can i download Quake at on leniux
[02:25] <wolfsbaine> sleep time now
[02:25] <kbrooks> cache -> clear
[02:25] <rob_p> elad`:  Also, http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4204/lambda8ur.png
[02:25] <cork_ubuntu> rob_p, alternative turn pc off find wires connecting pc to speaker..and snip!
[02:25] <erisco> heh cool, ubuntu has a different lingo for it
[02:25] <cork_ubuntu> problem terminally fixed :-)
[02:25] <kbrooks> erisco: no
[02:25] <Dreamglider> hyphenated, i know there is a FILE called pc there but i need a DIR, /pc
[02:26] <rob_p> cork_ubuntu:  That works too :-)
[02:26] <Dreamglider> :/
[02:26] <calc> erisco: its the same for firefox on all platforms
[02:26] <hyphenated> Dreamglider: you can't.
[02:26] <erisco> yeah but i used to use ie (shudders)
[02:26] <kbrooks> erisco: firefox not ubuntu
[02:26] <cork_ubuntu> the bell drove me round the bend too, so i just cut it out
[02:26] <calc> erisco: i'm sorry :)
[02:26] <cork_ubuntu> you can always pipe the bell sound thru alsa
[02:26] <calc> erisco: you can also just hit the clear all if you want to nuke history/cache/passwords/etc
[02:26] <rob_p> elad`:  That's a version of your graphic with a transparent background...
[02:27] <erisco> calc, yeah i saw that neat little button... shiny....
[02:27] <Dreamglider> ok then how do i rename a file in terminal ?
[02:27] <erisco> um... well that dam thing still won't load
[02:27] <calc> Dreamglider: mv from to
[02:27] <erisco> the load bar goes, and that is the end of the show
[02:28] <elad`> rob_p: Thanks!
[02:28] <rob_p> elad`:  no problem!
[02:28] <erisco> dam and the game looks cool too
[02:28] <cork_ubuntu> im doing all this on just 128 megs of ram, xp wants that just to see the boot screen :-)
[02:28] <erisco> cork, yeah very true
[02:28] <elad`> rob_p: How did you go about it? I very meticulously copied the circle with the lambda, and then I pasted it into a transparent new background.
[02:29] <chsguy55> does anyone know a fun game to play? i kno its a stupid question but im bored
[02:29] <erisco> cork, vista... god i hate to see the mininum requirements
[02:29] <cafuego_> cork_ubuntu: To be fair, Breezy on 128Mb is no picnic either.
[02:29] <erisco> i am on 256
[02:29] <calc> chsguy55: i hear wesnoth is supposed to be fun
[02:29] <cafuego_> cork_ubuntu: it gets real crusty real fast on less then 512MB
[02:29] <cork_ubuntu> im on hoary
[02:29] <erisco> wesnoth?
[02:29] <erisco> i use hoary too, yay
[02:29] <cork_ubuntu> hope the 10 bucks i bid on ebay for another 128 works for me
[02:29] <Dreamglider> Hmm i renamed pc to pcBACKUP now i can still not make the dir /pc can anyone help me here ? :(
[02:29] <cork_ubuntu> lol
[02:29] <kbrooks> i uae breezy
[02:30] <calc>  Battle for control of villages, using variety of units which have advantages
[02:30] <calc>  and disadvantages in different types of terrains and against different types
[02:30] <calc>  of attacks.  Units gain experience and advance levels, and are carried over
[02:30] <calc>  from one scenario to the next campaign.
[02:30] <kbrooks> use*
[02:30] <calc> thats desc of wesnoth
[02:30] <calc> its in ubuntu universe
[02:30] <rob_p> elad`:  I used gimp.  I just copied only the circle and then pasted it into a new transparent png of the appropriate dimensions and then saved it.
[02:30] <erisco> calc! where do i get it! muahaha
[02:30] <cafuego_> Dreamglider: You're not allowed to make directories on the disk root (/). Use 'mkdir pc' instead.
[02:30] <calc> erisco: apt-get install wesnoth after you enable universe
[02:30] <elad`> Ah, just like I did.
[02:30] <erisco> enable universe? okay how do i do that =p
[02:31] <rob_p> elad`:  I guess so!
[02:31] <cafuego_> !repos
[02:31] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:31] <calc> erisco: er turn it on in the package manager i think
[02:31] <cork_ubuntu> guys do you find 256mb ram ok for normal tasks?
[02:31] <calc> erisco: i do it with vi ;)
[02:31] <erisco> you mean my repositories?
[02:31] <nalioth> cork_ubuntu: barely
[02:31] <cork_ubuntu> i know occasionally editing photos in 128k with gimp it falls over
[02:31] <cafuego_> cork_ubuntu: Only just. Not if you're running Evolution, a bunch of Firefox windows, OpenOffice.org2 and Beagle.
[02:31] <calc> cork_ubuntu: i've found at work on regular debian sarge kde needs about 48MB minimum, not sure about gnome
[02:31] <cafuego_> cork_ubuntu: I have 1 GB and sometimes swap up to 300MB
[02:31] <calc> cork_ubuntu: haven't tried finding the minimum usable amount on ubuntu yet
[02:32] <cork_ubuntu> calc, first off evolution not my thing.  i use bare email
[02:32] <cork_ubuntu> browser based
[02:32] <calc> cork_ubuntu: mutt is cool :)
[02:32] <erisco> dam i got a bunch of 404
[02:32] <cork_ubuntu> openoffice, after i have my morning coffee?? lol
[02:32] <cafuego_> evolution works with beagle, makes my imap mail instantly searchable. is good.
[02:32] <cork_ubuntu> sorry but for me gnumeric most of the time
[02:32] <Dreamglider> how do i move/copy files in terminal ?
[02:32] <propagandhi83> can you customise usplash
[02:33] <cafuego_> grep on 6GB takes forever
[02:33] <cork_ubuntu> beagle just drags my machine to a crawl
[02:33] <erisco> oh god i got problems again.... go figure
[02:33] <cork_ubuntu> i love mutt too!!!
[02:33] <calc> cork_ubuntu: but yea you can make linux work very well in 256MB of ram depending on what you run
[02:33] <calc> cork_ubuntu: i used to run linux in 16mb
[02:33] <erisco> i am having problems with the two new firefox updates
[02:33] <erisco> they will not install
[02:33] <cafuego_> if all you need is mutt, 32Mb works fine too <heh>
[02:33] <cork_ubuntu> but i use a webapp on my host :-)
[02:33] <erisco> and it is screwing other things up too
[02:33] <bloodnik> Open Office isn't refreshing the window.
[02:33] <cafuego_> erisco: Disable hoary-extras, try again.
[02:34] <bloodnik> It's been in the background for quite a long time, and it's just showing me a grey screen with a title bar now
[02:34] <gigaclon> erisco are you using backports?
[02:34] <calc> supposedly ubuntu is taking ~ 800MB on my machine right now
[02:34] <cork_ubuntu> calc, it was flying in 32mb in redhat4, guess the distros did get bloated like other vendors
[02:34] <calc> though probably 300MB of that is firefox
[02:35] <calc> cork_ubuntu: i started using linux before redhat 1 was out iirc
[02:35] <calc> cork_ubuntu: but yea they get bloated the more they support, etc
[02:35] <calc> 16MB was plenty back then
[02:35] <cork_ubuntu> bloodnik, i used to use the oo2 beta, but the 1.3 tree is much more stable and quick on my machine
[02:35] <cork_ubuntu> oh god yeah calc!
[02:35] <calc> of course emacs was a slow pos ;)
[02:35] <propagandhi83> its only natural they're gonna get bigger with more apps and the ability to actually now compete as a desktop os
[02:36] <cork_ubuntu> calc, my fav editor for day to day use, aside from web stuff..is joe :-)
[02:36] <Dreamglider> how do i move/copy files in terminal ?
[02:36] <cork_ubuntu> was weaned on wperfect
[02:36] <erisco> ah, i found what you guys meant
[02:36] <calc> i'd imagine that linux is still pretty fast with 16MB of ram now if you use something like fluxbox and don't install packages much
[02:36] <erisco> repositories as i guessed
[02:36] <calc> dselect/aptitude eat memory
[02:36] <erisco> alright i removed them
[02:36] <haslguitar> why must wine be uninstalled to install winesetuptk?
[02:36] <bloodnik> cork, you reckon it's an oo2-beta thing?
[02:36] <cork_ubuntu> well i know the wife tried it and i almost lost a pc
[02:37] <erisco> let me log back in...
[02:37] <cork_ubuntu> thats all im saying bloodnik
[02:37] <calc> dpkg shows like its using 60MB ram on this box right now
[02:37] <bloodnik> kcool
[02:37] <cork_ubuntu> use the 1.x branch
[02:37] <bimberi> Dreamglider: mv to move, cp to copy
[02:37] <bloodnik> yessir
[02:37] <calc> at work though i run kde in sarge on vmware with 96MB of ram and its perfectly fine
[02:37] <cork_ubuntu> bloodnik, are you doing really powerful stuff or trying to just figure out how much your taxes are?
[02:38] <bloodnik> It was writer
[02:38] <bloodnik> I was writing a spec
[02:38] <cork_ubuntu> i dont bother with that
[02:38] <cork_ubuntu> much quicker is abiword
[02:38] <cork_ubuntu> print to a pdf file and the morons/suits dont know the difference
[02:39] <cork_ubuntu> and its getting better and better by the day
[02:39] <haslguitar> why must wine be uninstalled to install winesetuptk?
[02:40] <chsguy55> hey guys... i just downloaded wesnoth and i cant seem to find it under games... does anyone know where i can find it? i continue to have the same problem of downloading a game and not being able to find it...
[02:40] <cork_ubuntu> chsguy55, what are games?
[02:40] <cork_ubuntu> ;-)
[02:40] <durt> "locate wesnoth"
[02:40] <gigaclon> chsguy55, Gnome sucks at putting stuff in menus
[02:40] <bimberi> chsguy55: unfortunately not all packages add an entry to the menus.  Try "wesnoth" in a terminal
[02:40] <chsguy55> App > Games
[02:41] <chsguy55> thanks guys....
[02:41] <diesel> I have /dev/cdrom pointed to /cdrom in /etc/fstab.  How would I symlink a directory to /cdrom so that apps think that /dev/cdrom is mounted?
[02:41] <cork_ubuntu> right its 0140 here in irishland
[02:42] <cork_ubuntu> time for me to go beddy byes as i must go and sell more useless shit to stupid people tomorrow
[02:42] <selinium> chsguy55, use smeg to create a menu item.
[02:42] <cork_ubuntu> ooops sell value added products to my valued customers :-)
[02:42] <ZBlach> hi
[02:43] <ZBlach> anyone here know wireless networking well
[02:43] <ZBlach> ?
[02:43] <cork_ubuntu> ZBlach, sorry not i
[02:43] <jmg> can someone cat their /etc/fstab and tell me the line for swap?
[02:43] <cork_ubuntu> ZBlach, did you try using linuxhardware.org
[02:44] <ZBlach> its not so much a hardware issue as a software config thing
[02:44] <bimberi> jmg: /dev/hda7       none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:44] <jmg> bimberi: thanks
[02:44] <GDorn> well, that hosed everything but good
[02:44] <cork_ubuntu> oops
[02:44] <bimberi> jmg: yw :)
[02:44] <GDorn> update to breezy, nvidia drivers prevent me from getting into X.
[02:45] <ZBlach> every time i connect to my router, my breezy locks up
[02:45] <GDorn> any suggestions for uninstalling nvidia drivers so that I can do apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[02:45] <eXcentra> i need some help... i set my zxcv and b keys with a shortcut via keyboard shortcuts and then i unset them and then my zxcv and b keys stopped working. i'm sitting here copying and pasting
[02:45] <diesel> Perhaps a better way to ask is how would I mount, or symlink a directory as if it is on /dev/cdrom?
[02:45] <eXcentra> how do i reset the keys?
[02:46] <durt> gdorn - i think its "nvidia-uninstaller" or something - i think its in the docs
[02:47] <cork_ubuntu> GUYS: as an MCSE I know says when i ask "how do i do blah blah, in windows" his straight face stock answer is "with great difficulty" :-) just thought id share
[02:47] <Elsidox> can someone tell me how to get wma files to play? I cant find the w32codecs package in multiverse or universe
[02:47] <cork_ubuntu> Elsidox, http://www.wlug.org.nz/UbuntuPostInstall
[02:47] <Elsidox> cork_ubuntu, thanks
[02:47] <bimberi> ubotu tell Elsidox about w32codecs
[02:48] <cork_ubuntu> Elsidox, welcome
[02:48] <cork_ubuntu> bimberi, i did
[02:48] <Elsidox> bimberi, thanks
[02:49] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to get a SNES emu working?
[02:49] <cork_ubuntu> mylastmorning, "with great difficulty"
[02:49] <Navatiu> heh
[02:49] <mylastmorning> cork_ubuntu, god why is it so hard with ubuntu?
[02:49] <cork_ubuntu> i gave up on mame
[02:49] <cork_ubuntu> its not ubuntu
[02:49] <cork_ubuntu> try doing it on an xp box
[02:49] <Elsidox> cork_ubuntu, so I just change my sourse list with this?
[02:50] <Navatiu> have you try snes9x? mylastmorning.
[02:50] <bimberi> cork_ubuntu: i know, although one of the issues with that NZ script is that it modifes the sources.list to point to the NZ repositories
[02:50] <cork_ubuntu> Elsidox, just run the script
[02:50] <Elsidox> cork_ubuntu, Im running breezy btw
[02:50] <cork_ubuntu> it worked for me
[02:50] <ZBlach> i'm also having great trouble with breezy
[02:50] <cork_ubuntu> oops
[02:50] <cork_ubuntu> Elsidox, not too sure with that
[02:50] <mylastmorning> Navatiu, I have but I don't know how to get it running.
[02:50] <cork_ubuntu> i only run released stable stuff that i can get to work
[02:50] <cork_ubuntu> im not upgrading to breezy for at least another 12 months
[02:50] <eXcentra> anybody?
[02:50] <webdwarf> thats no fun :P
[02:51] <webdwarf> i love dist-upgrading every day and hoping that my system still works
[02:51] <cork_ubuntu> webdwarf, ever had your wife throw the pc and the monitor at you?
[02:51] <Navatiu> ah mylastmorning.
[02:51] <bimberi> Elsidox: the breezy related link in the msg from ubotu should do then
[02:51] <cork_ubuntu> ie..simoltaneously?
[02:51] <GDorn> what should the driver entry be in xorg.conf for nvidia-glx?
[02:51] <Elsidox> bimberi, thanks again
[02:51] <bimberi> Elsidox: yw :)
[02:51] <Navatiu> well unzip it in your user folder then run it on konsole/console whatever like ./snes9x if that is app name.
[02:52] <hyphenated> eXcentra: sorry, haven't come across that problem before
[02:52] <mylastmorning> Navatiu do you know how to get it to work?
[02:52] <eXcentra> :|
[02:52] <durt> gdorn: "nvidia"
[02:52] <webdwarf> cork_ubuntu: cant convince my woman to switch from windows :(
[02:52] <Navatiu> well i am not running linux, but i did try snes9x once.
[02:52] <cork_ubuntu> ah see i did by keeping it "stable" and reliable
[02:53] <Navatiu> on previous SuSe 9.0 that is
[02:53] <selinium> eXcentra, what are you trying to do?
[02:53] <webdwarf> cork_ubuntu: unless you have a good replacement for macromedia fireworks and adobe illustrator its not gonna happen either :(
[02:53] <Navatiu> i dunno about ubuntu whatever suse9x probably work on it or not
[02:53] <Elsidox> ubotu tell Elsidox about totem-xine
[02:53] <eXcentra> reset my keys
[02:53] <ZBlach> i keep having to setup my network connection when i start breezy.
[02:53] <ZBlach> how can i fix this?
[02:53] <cork_ubuntu> webdwarf, if i swith every day shell throw it out
[02:53] <cork_ubuntu> no i dont
[02:53] <selinium> eXcentra, THat isn't very helpful, what is wrong?
[02:53] <durt> zblach, what do you mean?
[02:53] <eXcentra> i need some help... i set my zxcv and b keys with a shortcut via keyboard shortcuts and then i unset them and then my zxcv and b keys stopped working. i'm sitting here copying and pasting
[02:53] <hyphenated> eXcentra: do they work normally in a console session? (Ctrl+Alt+F1)
[02:53] <cork_ubuntu> webdwarf, look at the wine site, they have links to get them working under wine
[02:54] <hyphenated> eXcentra: (switch back with Ctrl+Alt+F7)
[02:54] <ZBlach> durt, every time i get my network running, and i reboot, i have to get it running again
[02:54] <cork_ubuntu> webdwarf, assuming of course youve got like a gb of ram in your machine
[02:54] <selinium> hyphenated, Wonder if you said that too late?
[02:54] <webdwarf> cork_ubuntu: her machine does, yes :P
[02:54] <cork_ubuntu> i on the underhand have just 128mb
[02:54] <hyphenated> selinium: indeed :-)
[02:54] <selinium> lol
[02:54] <ZBlach> and, usually, i have to try things too many times for it towork again
[02:54] <voth> what do i need in order to listen to mp3's under ubuntu?
[02:55] <durt> zblach, are you using ndiswrapper, and you have to modprobe it all the time?
[02:55] <cork_ubuntu> voth, install lame
[02:55] <GDorn> durt:  I have that, but startx says "failed to load nvidia kernel module"
[02:55] <selinium> !tell voth about mp3
[02:55] <sproingie> what's the format of a .deb, in case I wanted to unpack one manually?  or should i just use alien?
[02:55] <ZBlach> durt, yup. i'm using ndiswrapper. and what do you mean 'modprobe it every time'?
[02:56] <selinium> sproingie, Why would you unpack a deb?
[02:56] <durt> gdorn: when you run "sudo modprobe nvidia" what is the output?
[02:56] <sproingie> selinium: to eyeball a particular file in the .deb
[02:56] <cork_ubuntu> sproingie, use mc
[02:56] <cork_ubuntu> its a terminal app
[02:56] <cork_ubuntu> but a swiss knife too
[02:56] <GDorn> durt:  ahh.  module nvidia not found.  now what?
[02:57] <cork_ubuntu> mc is file manager, lets you look inside packed files
[02:57] <ZBlach> smaller note: what do I use to open .rar?
[02:57] <GDorn> zblach:  try 7zip
[02:57] <eXcentra> yes, it works in onsole mode
[02:57] <sproingie> i'll just alien it into a tgz
[02:57] <cork_ubuntu> does on my system :-)
[02:57] <eXcentra> and in the login sreen
[02:57] <jmonter> hello everyone
[02:57] <durt> zblach: ok, i take it the module loads fine - so i guess youre talking about the net setup...
[02:58] <maryj> Can i get some help , i want to print a document in open office but not working?
[02:58] <durt> gdorn: what response does "sudo insmod nvidia.ko" give?
[02:58] <cork_ubuntu> ok gang, bed time for paddy irish man here
[02:58] <cork_ubuntu> thanks for your help and all have fun
[02:58] <ZBlach> durt, yup. setup. i have to change the encryption protocol, but thats not an option in network-admin
[02:59] <webdwarf> seeya cork_ubuntu
[02:59] <jmonter> I recently downloaded ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-amd64 but have a problem with the X server. I have an ATI-9200SE video card.
[02:59] <GDorn> durt:  no such file or directory
[03:00] <jmonter> I have a couple of SimplyMepis and the distribution works fine, but than again its not using the new xorg
[03:00] <jmonter> Can anyone help me out?
[03:00] <ZBlach> ubotu, tell me about mp3
[03:00] <Navatiu> ubotu tell me about you
[03:00] <durt> zblach: so do you have to run some commands each time? in that case you could make a script
[03:00] <jvai> hey uall
[03:00] <gigaclon> !ubotu
[03:00] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:00] <elad`> "umount: /media/windows: device is busy"
[03:01] <Navatiu> :)
[03:01] <durt> gdorn: does "locate nvidia.ko" return anything?
[03:01] <ZBlach> durt, its not custom stuff, its just stuff to add to /etc/network/interfaces
[03:01] <ZBlach> ubotu, tell me about recursion
[03:01] <jmonter> anyone has problem with X and ATI-9200SE?
[03:02] <jvai> **
[03:02] <GDorn> durt:  yeah, in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/video/.  only I'm on breezy, which is 2.6.12-9-386
[03:02] <ZBlach> ubotu, forget recursion
[03:02] <ubotu> ZBlach: i forgot recursion
[03:03] <durt> gdorn: reinstall it perhaps
[03:03] <GDorn> durt:  you mean apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[03:03] <durt> yeah
[03:03] <org> hello, someone can help me with fluxbox ?
[03:04] <GDorn> durt:  says I already have that...
[03:04] <bimberi> !ati
[03:04] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[03:04] <org> I have fluxbox and i'm trying to add an exec, but whenever i use fluxconf gui to add in the fluxmenu gui and then i press Save, it doesn't SAVE.
[03:04] <elad`> How do I unmount that NTFS system?
[03:04] <org> then i go to the fluxmenu again the gui, and its gone
[03:04] <org> is there any error with the save thingie?
[03:04] <bimberi> jmonter: the post from ubotu above might have something that helps
[03:04] <durt> gdorn: apt-get remove nvidia-glx; and then apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:04] <jmonter> thx
[03:05] <GDorn> durt:  doing that now.  I'm pretty sure I've done that already before, though
[03:05] <durt> zblach, what exactly do you do after each boot?
[03:05] <jvai> **
[03:05] <org> HELLO
[03:05] <jvai> i cannot changge my text color, it looks ghost'd out
[03:05] <GDorn> durt:  yeah, no change.
[03:05] <bimberi> elad`: do you have a shell open that is on your ntfs partition?  If so it won't unmount
[03:06] <eXcentra> so, how do i reset my keys?
[03:06] <ZBlach> durt. in no particular order and for no particular length of time: sudo ifdown wlano && sudo ifup wlan0 && iwconfig wlan0 enc open && sudo iwconfig essid ESSID commit
[03:06] <durt> gdorn: i have this when i locate nvidia.ko: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/nvidia.ko
[03:06] <org> please someone can help me..
[03:07] <elad`> bimberi: Nope
[03:07] <bimberi> elad`: or some other process might have a file open on it
[03:07] <elad`> lsof | grep windows
[03:07] <elad`> No results.
[03:07] <WhyvasLT> is there like a development package?
[03:08] <WhyvasLT> so i can use make
[03:08] <bimberi> elad`: hm ok, that's me stumped then sorry
[03:08] <HrdwrBob> build-essential
[03:08] <elad`> build-essential
[03:08] <gigaclon> build-essential
[03:08] <WhyvasLT> in synaptics?
[03:08] <elad`> bimberi: thanks for trying
[03:08] <gigaclon> ya
[03:08] <ZBlach> ah yes. and what happened to the graphical grub editor
[03:08] <bimberi> elad`: yw :)
[03:08] <elad`> WhyvasLT: That's the exact name.
[03:08] <ScatterBrain> When I try to play dvd with mplayer - it basically freezes - no error messages or anything, mplayer just stops responding.
[03:09] <org> Guys HELLO, why you ignoring me
[03:09] <ZBlach> org, you haven't asked a question yet
[03:09] <ZBlach> well... except for that
[03:09] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: what's the last thing it says?
[03:09] <maryj> they just dio that
[03:09] <ZBlach> and you didn't have a '?' after it
[03:09] <org> ZBlach, sorry to disappoint you but i asked already, do you want me to ask again?
[03:09] <GDorn> durt:  hey, I nuked /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386, uninstalled and reinstalled nvidia-glx, and suddenly there's nvidia.ko in the right place.  but it doesn't show up in locate
[03:09] <ZBlach> org, yes. ask and if anyone knows anything, they'll answer
[03:09] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: It never says anything, I pick "play DVD" from the menu, and it just stops.
[03:09] <bimberi> org: we're not, it's probably that noone knows the answer :|
[03:10] <org> I have fluxbox and i'm trying to add an exec, but whenever i use fluxconf gui to add in the fluxmenu gui and then i press Save, it doesn't SAVE. it just doesn't save..
[03:10] <durt> org: the people at #fluxbox probably know best
[03:10] <eXcentra> So does anyody hae a solution to my prolem? it gets annoying to opy and paste......
[03:10] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: oh.. can you use the console one instead of the gui one? it'll have some messages (helpful or otherwise)
[03:10] <org> then i went to ~/.fluxbox/menu and edit it manualy, and i add the exec correctly, but it doesn't take the command
[03:10] <jvai> **
[03:10] <elad`> Would rebooting (either into Ubuntu or into Windows) be unwise before properly unmounting /media/windows/?
[03:10] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: eg: in a shell, type in 'mplayer dvd://1'
[03:10] <gigaclon> eXcentra, try System > Prefs > keyboard
[03:10] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: 'sec
[03:10] <org> durt, no because in fc4 i used fluxbox and the way i've done it, It works, but here in ubuntu it doesn't save, seems like a bug in ubuntu when i'm using the fluxbox WM?
[03:11] <yaaar> hey guys, what's the performance penalty of having samba sitting around idle? i've got my raid server running nfs right now (works great) and my network is all *nix. but every now and again somebody brings a winders laptop around the house, so i was thinking of setting samba up. think that's a good idea?
[03:11] <jvai> **
[03:11] <ZBlach> is there a breezy channel?
[03:11] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: and just tell us the last line, not all of it. it's pretty noisy :-)
[03:11] <hyphenated> (or use the paste link in the topic)
[03:11] <jvai> i cant fix my fonts in here, they look ghost'd out
[03:11] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: alsa-init: 1 soundcard failed, using: default
[03:11] <durt> gdorn: does "modprobe nvidia" work?
[03:12] <eythian> yaaar: even when it's being actively used (like in my case) samba doesn't make a noticible dent in performance.
[03:12] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: sorry, that should be 1 soundcard found...
[03:12] <bimberi> !tab
[03:12] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC.
[03:12] <yaaar> eythian: so when it's idle and i'm using nfs heavily, it's not going to get in the way?
[03:12] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: ah, nice. ok, in that shell again, kill mplayer, then run: mplayer -ao esd dvd://1
[03:12] <ZBlach> ubotu, recursion is tell ubotu about recursion
[03:12] <ubotu> ZBlach: okay
[03:12] <ZBlach> ^_^
[03:12] <org> no one uses fluxbox? Thats weird.
[03:12] <ZBlach> org, XMMS all the way
[03:13] <WhyvasLT> i used to use fluxbox
[03:13] <D1> noway
[03:13] <Navatiu> tell me about recursion
[03:13] <WhyvasLT> upgraded the laptop now
[03:13] <Navatiu> !tell me about recursion
[03:13] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: Now I get and error about signal 11 in module: decode_audio
[03:13] <GDorn> durt:  nope.  fatal, not found.
[03:13] <gigaclon> !recursion
[03:13] <ubotu> gigaclon: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:13] <Navatiu> bah
[03:13] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: hmm, not very nice
[03:13] <GDorn> durt: just rebooted in the hopes that it might find it, still nothing
[03:13] <ZBlach> guess someone killed recursion
[03:13] <eythian> yaaar, Nope, it should matter at all.
[03:13] <eythian> yaaar, shouldN'T
[03:13] <Stricklin> are there wmv codecs to be had somewhere?
[03:14] <yaaar> cool
[03:14] <Navatiu> yeah zblach
[03:14] <Navatiu> someone killed it, that bastard. heh
[03:14] <durt> gdorn: so how  do you know its in the right place if you cant locate it. run updatedb, then try locate
[03:14] <gigaclon> Stricklin, w32codecs
[03:14] <bimberi> ubotu tell Stricklin about w32codecs
[03:14] <Navatiu> !tell me about bush
[03:14] <gigaclon> !w32 codecs
[03:14] <ubotu> Wish i knew, gigaclon
[03:14] <Navatiu> heh
[03:15] <gigaclon> Navatiu, hes a stinking liar
[03:15] <mylastmorning> anyone know how to get a SNES emu to work?
[03:15] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: just to see how well it works, can you run: mplayer -nosound dvd://1
[03:15] <gigaclon> install it from synaptic
[03:15] <blue22> install zsnes
[03:15] <sproingie> anyone having problems with archive.ubuntu.com?
[03:16] <mylastmorning> blue22, how do I run it after?
[03:16] <blue22> zsnes
[03:16] <sproingie> hm my dns in general seems to be fritzed
[03:16] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: I get the video now...
[03:16] <blue22> snes9x?
[03:16] <ReleaseX> are there a lot of broken dependencies in the hoary repos?
[03:16] <GDorn> durt:  okay, updatedb done.  locate now says that nvidia.ko is in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile
[03:16] <blue22> what snes emu do youhave?
[03:17] <ken> hello
[03:17] <mylastmorning> I've got both blue22.
[03:17] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: ok. there is a problem with the decoder in the version available. That was the reason I compiled mplayer myself with a more recent version
[03:17] <blue22> i use zsnes
[03:17] <Navatiu> znes or ./znes? in my SNES 9.0 case, i use ./zsnes to run it.
[03:17] <blue22> i just run it
[03:17] <blue22> where did you get it?
[03:17] <durt> gdorn: and do modprobe nvidia or insmod nvidia.ko do anything?
[03:17] <bimberi> propa
[03:17] <mylastmorning> I got it from syn... blue22
[03:17] <kbrooks> ping
[03:17] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: Did you get a debain source package from somewhere?
[03:17] <jerryg> can someone point me to a url where i can generate a pub key so that i can update from nerim respository ?
[03:18] <blue22> ./ means its from your current directory
[03:18] <blue22> just type zsnes
[03:18] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: I don't know if there's a workaround for it though. it's pretty specific to the audio for dvds
[03:18] <elad`> To disable the clock syncronization on boot I should...?
[03:18] <nalioths_dog> jerryg, you dont need a key to install from nerim
[03:18] <mylastmorning> now how can I put this into the Applications menu blue22?
[03:18] <elad`> rm /etc/default/ntpdate?
[03:18] <nalioths_dog> jerryg, unless you are just distrustful
[03:18] <blue22> what version of ubuntu?
[03:18] <GDorn> durt:  well, if I actually go to that path and insmod it, it seems to install it, but then modprobe can't find it
[03:19] <bimberi> elad`: no
[03:19] <propagandhi> bimberi: were u talking to me?
[03:19] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: Did you get a debain source package from somewhere?
[03:19] <sproingie> goddammit, i have password auth turned off in sshd and i'm STILL getting brute-forced
[03:19] <ericz> ugh..
[03:19] <elad`> OK. What then?
[03:19] <jerryg> i get the following error whe i apt-get update after adding the source.  The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[03:19] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: don't remember, it was a while ago. the version I compiled is 1.0-pre7 (you're probably using 1.0-pre6)
[03:19] <ericz> anybody know anything about setting up ircd-ircu ?
[03:19] <propagandhi> jerryg: which source
[03:20] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: and you're not having a problem with it?
[03:20] <bimberi> propagandhi: kinda, i was actually going to see if you know about the ghost command (on freenode) :)
[03:20] <occy> cool little boot-up in breezy
[03:20] <occy> heh
[03:20] <ReleaseX> are there a lot of broken dependencies in the hoary repos?
[03:20] <bimberi> elad`: sudo rm /etc/rc*.d/S*ntp*
[03:20] <jerryg> this one:  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[03:20] <sproingie> anyone have a decent iptables script to stop ssh brute force attacks?
[03:20] <jerryg> i'm just trying to install win32-codecs
[03:20] <jerryg> on breezy
[03:20] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: nope. it's a bit of work, if you've never done it before
[03:21] <propagandhi> jerryg: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8763&highlight=nerim+gpg
[03:21] <kbrooks> !marillat
[03:21] <ubotu> kbrooks: Are you smoking crack?
[03:21] <propagandhi> bimberi: no i dont know of it
[03:21] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: I've never done mplayer, but I have other things before.
[03:21] <jerryg> thank you propagandhi
[03:21] <propagandhi> jerryg: no prb
[03:21] <durt> gdorn: i guess you have to play with the path variables or something - i dont know how to do that. i guess you could try putting that path in xorg.conf, but i dont think that will work.
[03:21] <elad`> What does that rc stand for?
[03:21] <durt> remote control
[03:22] <kbrooks> ubotu: marillat is <reply>If you enable the marillat repoistories, please disable them after you use them as needed.
[03:22] <ubotu> okay, kbrooks
[03:22] <durt> race car
[03:22] <bimberi> propagandhi: if you lose you're client it's a way of getting your nick back when you reconnect - /msg nickserv help ghost - :)
[03:22] <p0windah> GDorn: hey, how'd you go with freenx ?
[03:22] <propagandhi> bimberi: cheers for that
[03:22] <stianh> hey guys, what do I need to type in a shell to take a screenshot
[03:22] <occy> kbrooks, arenn't you supposed to do that stuff in #debian-bots ?
[03:22] <blue22> just press printscreen
[03:23] <bimberi> propagandhi: yw :)
[03:23] <stianh> blue22, Im not in gnome
[03:23] <durt> gnome-screenshot, stianh
[03:23] <stianh> enligthenment
[03:23] <eythian> sproingie, In Debian (and probably Breezy) is fail2ban. See if you can install that, it blocks SSH attacks quite nicely.
[03:23] <GDorn> p0windah:  not so good.  it works, but it doesn't really do what I need it to. it can't convert a local session to a remote session or vice versa
[03:24] <kbrooks> occy: yes
[03:24] <bimberi> elad`: good question... :)
[03:24] <occy> kbrooks, ;)
[03:24] <p0windah> GDorn: ah ok, not sure if thats in the pipelines
[03:25] <ei_> how can i imstall gyach?
[03:26] <jerryg> how do i find a particular keyring for a specific responsitory ?
[03:26] <GDorn> durt:  oh, think I may have found something.  I don't have linux-restricted-modules for the right kernel installed.  trying that.
[03:26] <mylastmorning> does anyone play Ragnarok? or know how to make it run in ubuntu?
[03:27] <LivingTarget> do play it, havent had time to check it out on linux :)
[03:28] <GDorn> durt:  yup.  that did it.  shouldn't the upgrade to breezy have done that automatically?  is this a bug?
[03:28] <TokenBad> anyone know what would make firefox start crashing out of the blue?
[03:28] <TokenBad> over and over and over
[03:28] <p0windah> TokenBad: plugins
[03:29] <durt> gdorn: i dont know - i didnt have to do that, but i guess youre set now
[03:29] <agentfelix> how do i install ubantu?
[03:29] <agentfelix> ubuntu**
[03:30] <LivingTarget> agentfelix: have you got it on a disc?
[03:31] <kbrooks> agentfelix: d/l the cd (or get a cd), then (only if u dled the cd) burn it, then put it in your cd drive and reboot
[03:31] <ReleaseX> are there a lot of broken dependencies in the hoary repos?
[03:31] <kbrooks> ReleaseX: no. whats your problem
[03:31] <p0windah> hehe
[03:31] <mortal5> I need someone to help me out with my sound problems
[03:32] <mortal5> I've msg'ed ubotu sound
[03:32] <mortal5> read up on things
[03:32] <mortal5> the kernel, and modules are ok
[03:32] <ReleaseX> kbrooks, i was trying to apt-get install smeg and it was telling me that it had a dependency it couldn't meet
[03:32] <mortal5> well, i think
[03:32] <mortal5> from what I've seen...
[03:32] <Amaranth> ReleaseX: run this from a console: wget http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg && sudo python installsmeg
[03:33] <Amaranth> ReleaseX: the backports are broken
[03:33] <p0windah> mortal5: try   to    type    on     one     line    please.....
[03:33] <Amaranth> ReleaseX: At least for smeg
[03:33] <jmg> anyone got a howto for hostap in breezy?
[03:33] <mortal5> sorry
[03:33] <jmg> pcmcia is picking up as orinoco
[03:34] <jmg> i have built hostap
[03:35] <GDorn> I can't uninstall totem without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop?  bwah?
[03:36] <apokryphos> GDorn: yes, it's a metapackage
[03:36] <speel> hey is there any way to make direct connect work in gaim
[03:36] <LivingTarget> apokryphos: What's a metapackage :)
[03:36] <LivingTarget> ?
[03:36] <GDorn> apokryphos:  but totem can't play anything, basically.
[03:36] <apokryphos> !metapackage
[03:36] <ubotu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[03:37] <GDorn> oh.  so I can uninstall it just fine?
[03:37] <apokryphos> you have to have ubuntu-desktop, for example, before you do dist-upgrades (pretty much)
[03:37] <p0windah> I'm not sure many would describe totem as "very useful" :)
[03:37] <occy> I hope totem is more useful in breezy than it was in Hoary/Warty
[03:37] <apokryphos> GDorn: ...otherwise you'll have problems.
[03:37] <_jason> speel:  I tihink my direct connect works in gaim as long as the other user also has gaim.  It seems to fail with people who use aim as their client.
[03:37] <occy> I could could never get totem to do ANYTHING at all.
[03:37] <speel> yea =/
[03:37] <oO_will_Oo> you have to install the plugins
[03:38] <oO_will_Oo> for most proprietary codecs
[03:38] <p0windah> occy: you can make it work, but you need to install extra software that is not officially supported by the ubuntu guys
[03:38] <oO_will_Oo> it works nice if you do though
[03:38] <_jason> occy:  try totem-xine
[03:38] <occy> p0windah, why do we ship it then?
[03:38] <occy> I mean
[03:38] <apokryphos> GDorn: you need the w32codecs and things to actually play films
[03:38] <p0windah> occy: aka, "legalities"
[03:38] <occy> why ship totem if it isn't working correctly
[03:38] <occy> it looks bad
[03:38] <apokryphos> occy: obviously it does work
[03:38] <occy> I think it's a totally bad idea.
[03:39] <apokryphos> but just not with propietary codecs
[03:39] <occy> apokryphos,  I have not gotten it to work with anything at all.
[03:39] <GDorn> apokryphos:  see, I have the w32codecs.  that doesn't make a difference.
[03:39] <pie> help!!
[03:39] <Stricklin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 didn't work
[03:39] <occy> if it doesn't work out of the box, it shouldn't be shipped with Ubuntu
[03:39] <apokryphos> occy: so? How exactly did you deduce that it necessarily doesn't work, from that?
[03:39] <bob2> occy: what would you propose to replace it with?
[03:39] <apokryphos> GDorn: what are you trying to play?
[03:40] <occy> bob2, apparently there is nothing we can replace it with.
[03:40] <GDorn> if I could just get video to always open in mplayer, I'd be happy.  but the file browser seems to ignore what I tell it
[03:40] <occy> bob2, as all codecs are proprietary
[03:40] <occy> bob2, right?
[03:40] <p0windah> occy: not at all
[03:40] <occy> bob2, so don't ship the broken video software.
[03:40] <oO_will_Oo> no
[03:40] <bob2> occy: of course not
[03:40] <jerryg> has anyone succesfully installed win32-codecs tonight on breezy ?  if so i would very much appreciate your assistance in getting this code up and running.  i referenced the problem urls, tried all the possible solutions, though it seems like i keep on getting a dead end trying to install win32-codecs
[03:40] <oO_will_Oo> flac
[03:40] <jerryg> i am using amd64 platform
[03:40] <bob2> any discussion using "codecs" as a noun is broken
[03:40] <oO_will_Oo> umm
[03:40] <occy> bob2, heh
[03:41] <bob2> jerryg: how do you propose to make use of 32-bit windows DLLs on an amd64 system?
[03:41] <occy> bob2, I obviously don't know what I'm talking about, however, as a true end-user (as you can attest to)  It does not work for me in all the cases I've tried to use totem.
[03:41] <pie> Hi, i'm having a big problem.., afther installing Ubuntu (before there was XP), the soundcart does not function..Help!
[03:41] <bob2> occy: right, I also think totem sucks
[03:41] <occy> bob2, so, I say again, why ship something that is broken?
[03:41] <jerryg> bob2 are you saying i can't play mp3's on ubuntu 64 bit ?  i have an audigy 2 value just to hear the bootup sound ???
[03:41] <bob2> occy: apparently it works for some people
[03:41] <bob2> jerryg: wtf
[03:41] <occy> bob2, I mean, I love Bastien to death... but...
[03:41] <p0windah> occy: sadly most of the stuff you've tried to open is probably MS stuff
[03:41] <sunsun> hi i can't burn cdrecord doesnt see my cdburner
[03:41] <occy> heh
[03:41] <bob2> jerryg: why would you install w32codecs to play mp3s?
[03:41] <wasabi_> why would you need windows dlls for mp3s?
[03:42] <wasabi_> heh
[03:42] <occy> p0windah, I can grant you that.
[03:42] <occy> p0windah, :/
[03:42] <pie> Hi, i'm having a big problem.., afther installing Ubuntu (before there was XP), the soundcart does not function..Help!
[03:42] <bob2> jerryg: any media player on ubuntu can play mp3s
[03:42] <apokryphos> jerryg: /msg ubotu mp3
[03:42] <sunsun> cdrecord -v -dev=ATA: -scanbus gives problems with /dev/hda which is obviously not right
[03:42] <bob2> jerryg: /msg ubotu restricted
[03:42] <bob2> sunsun: ignore that
[03:42] <p0windah> occy: they arent eager to support alternative operating systems...
[03:42] <bob2> sunsun: sudo cdrecord -v dev=/dev/hda foo.iso
[03:42] <jerryg> thanks
[03:42] <bob2> sunsun: it will give warnings, but that's only because the cdrecord author has a crackpipe the size of my house
[03:42] <pie> Hi, i'm having a big problem.., afther installing Ubuntu (before there was XP), the soundcart does not function..Help!
[03:42] <bob2> pie: please stop repeating
[03:43] <pie> oeps..
[03:43] <occy> bob2, hey btw. :)
[03:43] <bob2> occy: hi :)
[03:43] <oO_will_Oo> pie: does it play the startup sounds?
[03:43] <pie> bob2: could you help?
[03:43] <occy> bob2, you've been helping me with Linux stuff now for what? 8 years?
[03:43] <occy> heh
[03:43] <bob2> occy: a large part of totem's problems seem to be esd-related, sadly
[03:43] <mortal5> I need help with my sound can *anyone* help me out here?
[03:43] <sunsun> bob2 it says error trying to open /dev/hda exclusively device or resource busy?
[03:43] <HrdwrBob> bob2: that's because esd makes baby jesus cry
[03:43] <mortal5> I've been reading the docu
[03:43] <bob2> sunsun: mount | grep hda
[03:43] <occy> bob2, I think I need to take you out for a beer one day.
[03:44] <bob2> occy: hah
[03:44] <occy> bob2, :)
[03:44] <propagandhi> occy: dont get all mushy
[03:44] <sunsun> ok /dev/hda1 on / and /dev/hda6 on /home?
[03:44] <pinko_> hello.  in ubuntu, what is the program that selects an audio device?
[03:44] <bob2> I've only been using linux since 1999, so you should lend me your time machine as well as your beer ;p
[03:44] <occy> propagandhi, hehe
[03:44] <pie> o0_will_0o:no, it doesn't play anything
[03:44] <dooglus> my wnck-applet has gone transparent, whereas it's always been opaque in the past.  is that a deliberate change?
[03:44] <occy> well
[03:44] <sunsun> bob2 ok /dev/hda1 on / and /dev/hda6 on /home?
[03:44] <occy> bob2, I can't count either.
[03:44] <bob2> sunsun: right, trying to burn using a hard disk probably won't work ;)
[03:45] <bob2> pie: what sound card do you have?
[03:45] <occy> bob2, but I know it's been a while.  You helped me in Debian stuff forever.
[03:45] <Stricklin> Windows Media 9 codec available?
[03:45] <bob2> pinko_: there isn't one, really
[03:45] <occy> yeah, that was probably 99
[03:45] <bob2> occy: my apologies if I was an arse
[03:45] <pinko_> nuts.
[03:45] <bob2> Stricklin: in w32codecs, yes
[03:45] <pie> bob2: sondblaster 32
[03:45] <bob2> pie: is that PCI or ISA?
[03:45] <Cynicle> hey guys do you know how to install a SMB shared printer?
[03:45] <sunsun> bob2 i think you have a crackpipe the size of your house
[03:45] <bob2> HrdwrBob: dmix 4 lyf
[03:45] <pie> bob2: sondblaster 32 PCI
[03:45] <occy> bob2, haha, naw, I've been around Linux long enough to realize people are characters, if you want their help you deal with the attitudes.
[03:45] <bob2> sunsun: ok!
[03:45] <Stricklin> then, bob2, that link for 64-bit didn't work
[03:45] <fivre> hey, how do you disconnect with wvdial? I try poff, and it disconnects, but wvdial always tries to repeatedly reconnect.
[03:45] <pinko_> bob2: there is an alsaconf in debian that does not seem to exist in the equivalent ubuntu package.
[03:46] <bob2> Stricklin: 32-bit windows dlls are not going to work with a amd64 mplayer binary
[03:46] <occy> bob2, you have to be very humble and respect those who take their own personal time out to help other people.  (like you and crimsun and others do)
[03:46] <bob2> pinko_: you have an on-board sound card?
[03:46] <oO_will_Oo> pie: try the instructions on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[03:46] <occy> anyway
[03:46] <occy> enough ass kissing
[03:46] <sunsun> hi i can't burn cdrecord doesnt see my cdburner
[03:46] <occy> ;)
[03:46] <pinko_> bob2: yes
[03:46] <p0windah> occy: dont stop
[03:46] <Amaranth> !ubuntuguide
[03:46] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:46] <occy> bob2++
[03:46] <Amaranth> hrm
[03:46] <bob2> pinko_: what does "lspci | grep -i multi" print out?
[03:46] <occy> p0windah, heh
[03:46] <oO_will_Oo> !faq
[03:46] <ubotu> hmm... faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[03:46] <bob2> sunsun: eh?  you need to point it at your cd burner
[03:46] <bob2> sunsun: hda is a hard disk
[03:46] <sunsun> anyone know what the target that is the equivalent of debain "testing" would be?
[03:47] <Amaranth> oh, i'm lagging
[03:47] <bob2> sunsun: presumably hdc would be your burner
[03:47] <occy> 85% of breezy install complete.
[03:47] <bob2> sunsun: there's no equivalent of testing
[03:47] <pie> o0_will_0o: I did, but the hardware doesn't responds
[03:47] <oO_will_Oo> hmm
[03:47] <bigcx2> bob2: multimedia controllers
[03:47] <bob2> erk
[03:47] <speel> hey when is breezy coming out? the 18th?
[03:47] <bob2> pie: hat does "lspci | grep -i multi" print out?
[03:47] <occy> speel, /topic
[03:47] <apokryphos> speel: /topic
[03:47] <webdwarf> speel: topic
[03:47] <occy> hehe
[03:47] <bob2> pinko_: is it possible to disable it in the BIOS?
[03:48] <P229> when I try to resume from "suspend," the screen goes all white (pretty bright, too), any idea what's going on and how I can fix it?
[03:48] <bigcx2> bob2 is just told you
[03:48] <sunsun> bob2 what does grep | cat do?
[03:48] <WhyvasLT> play wmvs ?
[03:48] <occy> apokryphos, webdwarf I win!
[03:48] <oO_will_Oo> pie: can't help you there, then.  Ubuntu's always worked mostly fine for me.  It's package dependencies that screw me up.
[03:48] <bob2> sunsun: nothing
[03:48] <WhyvasLT> is there something in synaptics?
[03:48] <speel> o ok :) thanks
[03:48] <sunsun> bob2 oh.  what about grep | xmms
[03:48] <P229> dell inspiron 8200, nvidia card, 5.10 preview
[03:48] <pinko_> bob2: I'll start it up again in a little while.  I think I can disable it in bios, and I do have another sound card I'd like to use.
[03:48] <apokryphos> occy: I'm blaming it on my internet lag :P
[03:48] <pie> bob2: don't know yet,
[03:48] <bob2> P229: not much people can do here, filing a bug would be the best thing to do
[03:48] <occy> *chuckle*
[03:48] <fivre> k, I think my question was eaten by the lag beast
[03:48] <fivre>  how do you disconnect with wvdial? I try poff, and it disconnects, but wvdial always tries to repeatedly reconnect.
[03:49] <creatin> anyone ever get WiFi working on ubuntu? or know how to?
[03:49] <bob2> P229: bugzilla.ubuntu.com, on the linux component, cc mjg59.  include model numbers, dmesg output and whether you're using any binary-only drivers.
[03:49] <occy> fivre, sudo poff ?
[03:49] <bigcx2> creatin: yes
[03:49] <bigcx2> what kind of wireless card are you using
[03:49] <occy> fivre, it's been forever since I've used dial-up.  Sorry. :(
[03:49] <bob2> pinko_: if you can disable the on-board one, ubuntu will use the other right awat
[03:49] <creatin> broadcom
[03:49] <bob2> WhyvasLT: mplayer, in multiverse
[03:49] <bob2> sunsun: that also does nothing
[03:49] <fivre> would sudo poff work any better than regular poff?
[03:49] <bigcx2> i have a broadcom card and i had to use ndiswrapper but it does work
[03:50] <bigcx2> some broadcom cards are supported
[03:50] <sunsun> bob2 oh i meant xmms | grep what does that do?
[03:50] <bigcx2> you have to check their site
[03:50] <yawgmoth7> What do you think this means "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[03:50] <yawgmoth7> " I ogt that error after using modprobe to load my soundcard module, i found some stuff on google, but you guys always seem to help me fix my probelm >:|
[03:50] <P229> bob2: will do
[03:50] <bob2> creatin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[03:50] <bob2> creatin: assuming it's too late to take it back and get one with a linux driver
[03:50] <bob2> yawgmoth7: what module did you load?
[03:50] <yawgmoth7> emu10k1
[03:50] <p0windah> has anyone here ever used the ubuntu inline help successfuly ?
[03:50] <marz> When I run the following:  sudo mount -t iso9660 doom3-CD1.iso /mnt/cdrom/ -o loop, I'm told that /mnt/cdrom does not exist. How do I find out how to mount something to my cd rom drive?
[03:50] <bob2> fivre: should do, but I don't know if it works with wvdial at all
[03:51] <bob2> yawgmoth7: you want snd_emu10k1, not emu10k1
[03:51] <pie> o0_will_0o: it seems to make a little sound when i move my mouse, so it must be a driver conflict
[03:51] <creatin> bob2: yeah got it 2 years ago
[03:51] <p0windah> the glaring absence of search drives me crazy
[03:51] <fivre> also, is there an easier way to modify file permissions than with chmod?
[03:51] <bob2> marz: sudo mkdir /mnt/cdrom
[03:51] <sunsun> cdrecord -scanbus -dev=ATA: looks up /dev/hda, anyone except bob2 know how to fix this?
[03:51] <yawgmoth7> ..............Crap, its that simple, jeez
[03:51] <marz> bob2: thank you
[03:51] <yawgmoth7> Thanks AGAIN bob2
[03:51] <bigcx2> sudo mount -t iso9660 /media/cdrom -o loop
[03:51] <bob2> fivre: your file manager can do it for files you own
[03:51] <Cynicle> hey is it possible to print of a hp pc1350 connected to a windows computer with ubunatu?
[03:51] <occy> bob2, if I get breezy preview (Colony 5) and apt-get dist-upgrade on the 13th, will I have the final breezy?
[03:51] <satafterh> I have a question, I have kubuntu breezy installed, when system is starting it has the unbuntu startup streen, how can i change this
[03:51] <bob2> yawgmoth7: (emu10k1 is the old OSS module, snd_emu10k1 is the ALSA one)
[03:51] <bob2> yawgmoth7: np
[03:52] <bob2> marz: np
[03:52] <p0windah> occy: yes
[03:52] <bob2> sunsun: ignore that, just find out what your burner is called some other way
[03:52] <occy> p0windah, ahh ok
[03:52] <bob2> occy: if you follow the upgrade notes, yes
[03:52] <creatin> bigcx2 | bob2: if i have the windows drivers can i use thos?
[03:52] <occy> bob2, ahhh
[03:52] <p0windah> occy: there may be some minor teething problems on the way
[03:52] <pie> o0_will_0o: thank you for responding, I'm leaving for my bed, been busy for 14 ouhr to have the sound starting..., goodnight!
[03:52] <bob2> occy: the only difference would be the installer might do things slightly differently, which you might need to do yourself on upgrade
[03:52] <fivre> well, assuming I don't own them, should starting Nautilus or whatever with sudo work?
[03:52] <bob2> creatin: read that page (yes)
[03:52] <occy> nod
[03:52] <bob2> fivre: gksudo nautilus, yeah
[03:52] <bigcx2> creatin: if there is no native linux support for your particular card then yes you will need to use those along with ndiswrapper
[03:52] <jerryg> ok i got the keys working and the gpg authenticated through system administration for the installation of win32codecs and have the main nerim source in my /etc/apt/sources.list however:  E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[03:52] <pie> bob2: thanks, goodnight
[03:52] <occy> I'll probably just go with the default breezy installer after the final release.
[03:53] <bob2> pie: good luck
[03:53] <occy> just really testing this right now.
[03:53] <fivre> alright, thanks
[03:53] <creatin> bob2: thanx
[03:53] <oO_will_Oo> A few days ago, I tried to change my machine's name.  That broke some stuff, but I got it fixed.  (I successfully changed the name the next day).  Unfortunately,  now all applications run as root appear blocky, like QT applications do for me also, but everything works just peachy if I run it as a non-root user.  Has anyone else had this problem?
[03:53] <Skelator> Hiys
[03:53] <bob2> jerryg: that means apt doesn't know about that package (ie it's not in any of the sources you configured it to use)
[03:53] <bob2> jerryg: also, w32codecs is of no use on a system running the amd64 port of ubuntu
[03:53] <jerryg> oh well -- its the one restricted sources told me to use
[03:53] <bigcx2> for i386
[03:53] <Skelator> I'm a newbie.... can anyone here tell me how to install skype?
[03:54] <Cynicle> can i ask, how do you change ubunatu's default resolution? Everytime i log in it defults to 1024*768 even though i change it to 1280*1024 and tick make default :S any help?
[03:54] <windex> !skype
[03:54] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[03:54] <windex> Skelator, read link from ubuntu
[03:54] <bigcx2> Skelator: its on ubuntuguide.org
[03:54] <jerryg> bob2 is there an alternative to w32codecs ?  my processor does run 32 and 64 bit together.
[03:54] <bob2> Cynicle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:54] <Skelator> cool
[03:54] <propagandhi> Cynicle: you can put the resolution you want first in the xorg.conf file
[03:54] <bob2> jerryg: yes, I know but you installed the amd64 version
[03:54] <apokryphos> jerryg: /msg ubotu w32codecs
[03:54] <keep> hello!
[03:54] <apokryphos> hi!
[03:55] <bigcx2> jerryg: in order to use w32codecs you must use the 32bit version of ubuntu
[03:55] <bigcx2> unless you can do a chroot of it
[03:55] <wamox> heyas all
[03:55] <bigcx2> i'm not sure
[03:55] <bob2> er
[03:55] <marz> how can I log in as root? or change permissions so that I can write to a file without being root?
[03:55] <apokryphos> you don't need to install the w32codecs package to get appropriate codecs for avis etc
[03:55] <bob2> has someone verified that those instructions actually work?
[03:55] <bob2> marz: use sudo
[03:55] <keep> i need help. i'm having a ~/.xsession-errors... i can't log-on!
[03:55] <apokryphos> bob2: which ones?
[03:56] <bigcx2> marz: if you want a root console type sudo su -
[03:56] <windex> bigcx2, has anyone told you about ubuntuguide yet?
[03:56] <bob2> apokryphos: the "64-bit" ones.  I don't see how amd64 xine is going to be able to call into 32-bit windows dlls
[03:56] <apokryphos> bigbootay: sudo -s is better
[03:56] <windex> ubotu, tell bigcx2 about ubuntuguide
[03:56] <bob2> unless they added a translation layer
[03:56] <yawgmoth7> Stupid amarok
[03:56] <ReleaseX> Amaranth: thanks, i'll try that in a bit
[03:56] <bigcx2> my bad i haven't checked it out in a while
[03:56] <yawgmoth7> (I like amarok, but oh well)
[03:56] <apokryphos> bob2: it uses the codecs from the mplayer site, and yes, it works generally ok (except for wmv files); see the thread for "success reports"
[03:56] <GDorn> okay, yeah.  mplayer sucks.
[03:57] <ReleaseX> Amaranth: how long have backports been down?
[03:57] <GDorn> vlc works, finally.
[03:57] <Amaranth> ReleaseX: They aren't down.
[03:57] <propagandhi> so 64bit processors cant read or execute 32 bit code? is that how it is?
[03:57] <ReleaseX> Amaranth: i mean broken
[03:57] <Amaranth> ReleaseX: The unofficial backports project no longer exists, the official one is up and running fine.
[03:57] <windex> Amaranth, which is which, now? :D
[03:57] <bob2> propagandhi: no
[03:58] <bigcx2> propagandi: no
[03:58] <Amaranth> ReleaseX: Since the official backports repository has existed. The only solution is to remove smeg from backports.
[03:58] <wamox> How do i disable a user account ..and display an message that the account is disabled when the user is trying to log in? i want to know how i can edit the /etc/passwd to do that
[03:58] <bob2> propagandhi: 64bit processors in general are irelevant
[03:58] <bob2> propagandhi: amd64 cpus can run both i386 and amd64 code
[03:58] <windex> Amaranth, ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net is still ok?
[03:58] <yawgmoth7> I swaer i do the same updates every single day
[03:58] <bob2> propagandhi: but all the programs in the ubuntu amd64 port (Aside from OO) are amd64 binaries, and thus can't (generally) use i386 libaries
[03:58] <Amaranth> windex: The unofficial one is the mirrormax one that had illegal stuff and broken machines, the official one is the one on archive.ubuntu.com
[03:58] <Amaranth> s/broken/broke/
[03:58] <windex> Amaranth, oh.
[03:58] <propagandhi> bob2: okay cheers, that makes sense now
[03:59] <bob2> propagandhi: (so you can make a i386 chroot and run any i386 programs you like in there, for instance)
[03:59] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: You still here?
[03:59] <wamox> any1?
[03:59] <apokryphos> propagandhi: it's just that if you're running a 32-bit chroot you're not really running a 64 :P
[03:59] <windex> Amaranth, does security.* carry updates for multiverse then?
[03:59] <bob2> apokryphos: I don't see any success reports in that thread
[04:00] <satafterh> anyone in here help with the boot up splash screen??
[04:00] <bob2> just lots of figuring out how to use the wiki and self-congratulations
[04:00] <Amaranth> windex: when the MOTU manage to make security releases, which isn't often
[04:00] <bigcx2> satafterh: click on applications-->system tools--> configuration editor
[04:00] <windex> Amaranth, okay, ill add multiverse to security then. thanks
[04:00] <Amaranth> windex: they're usually too busy making universe rock for the next ubuntu release :)
[04:01] <bob2> apokryphos: and since xine can play basically everything aside from WMV and RM without DLLs, I'm a little suspicious
[04:01] <windex> Amaranth, i was using the mirrormax site, as when i set it up, it was the only one available
[04:01] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: yeah, kinda
[04:01] <Cynicle> guys sorry how do i change my default resolution again?
[04:01] <bigcx2> satafterh: then go to apps-->gnome-session-->options
[04:01] <Amaranth> !backports
[04:01] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[04:01] <apokryphos> bob2: oh?
[04:01] <apokryphos> bob2: I guess it's jumping-the-gun to presume the "thanks for this!!!" people necessarily tried it
[04:01] <bob2> apokryphos: I don't think those instructions acheive anything at all, afaict
[04:02] <bob2> apokryphos: yeah
[04:02] <wamox> How do i disable a user account ..and display an message that the account is disabled when the user is trying to log in? i want to know how i can edit the /etc/passwd to do that
[04:02] <bob2> apokryphos: do you have a amd64 ubuntu machine?
[04:02] <apokryphos> yup
[04:02] <bob2> apokryphos: do you have mplayer installed?
[04:02] <windex> Amaranth, how hard is it to get things into multiverse? i've been working on a GFS-enabled kernel package for a cluster project.
[04:02] <apokryphos> yup
[04:02] <bob2> apokryphos: or xine?
[04:02] <apokryphos> both
[04:02] <bob2> apokryphos: have you followed those instructions?
[04:03] <bob2> p00f: are you poofyhairguy on the forums?
[04:03] <Amaranth> windex: why would that need to go into multiverse? multiverse is for legally grey things, like mp3 libraries and such
[04:03] <satafterh> bigcx2  - I am using kubuntu and splash screen at boot says ubuntu
[04:03] <ceaser> Does anybody know if there is a package in the ubuntu repos for the X.Org SDK?
[04:03] <windex> Amaranth, oh, got it.
[04:03] <Amaranth> windex: To get something into multiverse or universe, start by joining #ubuntu-motu
[04:03] <bigcx2> oh i dunno about kubuntu
[04:03] <bigcx2> just gnome
[04:03] <apokryphos> bob2: I copied the codecs pretty much near the beginning
[04:04] <windex> Amaranth, k. thanks.
[04:04] <satafterh> ok
[04:04] <apokryphos> bob2: but all my xvid plays fine without it
[04:04] <Amaranth> windex: and reading the topic :)
[04:04] <bob2> ceaser: is that different to the client header files?
[04:04] <bigcx2> isn't there a kubuntu channel?
[04:04] <Amaranth> yep
[04:04] <windex> Amaranth, this thing has a lot of depends. it takes a large chunk of redhat's code rebuilt for ubuntu to make it work.
[04:04] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: So did you enable esound or alsa when you compiled mplayer?
[04:04] <Amaranth> windex: ook
[04:04] <Amaranth> windex: that might not get accepted, you'll have to work with the MOTU to get it into good shape
[04:04] <apokryphos> bob2: well, problematic at full screen, but that's partly down to the lamo onboard graphics card which I should be changing soon
[04:04] <bob2> apokryphos: xvid should play fine with just ffmpeg
[04:05] <ceaser> bob2, I'm not sure. I'm trying to compile the x.org evdev input driver, and it keeps asking for the x.org sdk. I've instaled a bunch of x11 development library packages, but none of them appear to give the file I need.... what packages did you have in mind?
[04:05] <WhyvasLT> i installed the mplayer plugin for firefox and it buffers to 99% then does nothing
[04:05] <WhyvasLT> any ideas?
[04:05] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: I think I left most things as defaults, and just let the ./configure script detect which ones it could compile against (that's based on which -dev packages are installed)
[04:05] <propagandhi> I'm a kubuntu user, and the reason we come here is because the kubuntu channel is too quiet
[04:05] <bob2> ceaser: what files in particular does it want?
[04:05] <windex> Amaranth, heh. it requires 3/4ths of the 'cluster' package from sources.redhat.com, as well as the supporting utilities (cluster management tools, gfs filesystem tools, etc). like i said, it's a pita :)
[04:05] <marz> how do I unmount?
[04:05] <WhyvasLT> umount
[04:05] <bob2> ceaser: you can use packages.ubuntu.com to find them
[04:05] <marz> it says bash: unmount: command not found
[04:05] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: I think I'll compile it with both and then choose esound to play.
[04:06] <Amaranth> windex: I believe some or most of that is already in breezy, there was some work being done on it.
[04:06] <capiCrimm> Anyone know the linux distro that has a background that looks simmilar to this --> http://www.deviantart.com/view/20362265/
[04:06] <bob2> marz: umount
[04:06] <rigel> im having problems running rosegarden
[04:06] <ceaser> bob2, I tried that, but no packages came up...so I'm just wondering if I missed something. Hold on I'm finding the actual bheader file name
[04:06] <rigel> what # should i consult about that
[04:06] <windex> Amaranth, k.
[04:06] <bob2> marz: the n went missing in the 70's at berkeley
[04:06] <rigel> #alsa or #audio or something?
[04:06] <bob2> marz: there's a reward out for it's return
[04:06] <marz> bob2: oh umount, lol, thanks
[04:06] <bob2> rigel: might want to try their mailing list
[04:06] <ceaser> bob2, xf86Version.h is what its looking for. That doesn't show up in the file search at packages.ubuntu.com
[04:07] <bob2> ceaser: ow
[04:07] <apokryphos> bob2: do .wmvs play ok on amd64 windows?
[04:07] <wamox> How do i disable a user account ..and display an message that the account is disabled when the user is trying to log in? i want to know how i can edit the /etc/passwd to do that
[04:07] <propagandhi> isnt that xf86Version.h in the x development files
[04:07] <bob2> apokryphos: I'd assume there are amd64 windows dlls for them, yes
[04:07] <Vaske_Car> Why my Ubuntu server crashing every 2 days??? I am running Samba on it..  Before was Fedora and it used to work for 2-3 weeks...
[04:07] <Vaske_Car> ?????/
[04:07] <bigcx2> apokryphos: yes
[04:07] <breakthestate> so mplayer plugin working great in firefox but i'm trying to listen to a webradio archive and the link is under javascript.  a window pops up and totem tries to load.  any suggestions?
[04:08] <rob_p> wamox:  As found in the passwd man page... "sudo passwd -l login" locks the account, "sudo passwd -u login" unlocks the account.  Is that what you are after?
[04:08] <ceaser> propagandhi: no clue, again it didn't show up at packages.ubuntu.com and I couldn't find any more information about it besides donwloading the x.org source and running a make sdk.install (or install.sdk), I can't remember which
[04:08] <Navatiu> have you check the log or whatever to see why it crash, vaske_Car
[04:09] <bob2> ceaser: that sounds xfree86-specific
[04:09] <WhyvasLT> breakthestate, go in the firefox plugins dir and remove the totem player plugins
[04:09] <ceaser> hmm maybe i downlaoded old packages
[04:09] <bob2> apokryphos: but I don't know if xine/mplayer can load them, and I'm pretty sure they're not in w32codecs
[04:09] <ceaser> bob2: I may have just made a mistake
[04:09] <breakthestate> where is the plugins directory?
[04:09] <apokryphos> bob2: yup, I know that.
[04:10] <Vaske_Car> Navatiu: how?
[04:10] <WhyvasLT> breakthestate, find it
[04:10] <Vaske_Car> it froze
[04:10] <Navatiu> ah
[04:10] <breakthestate> WhyvasLT: ok
[04:10] <WhyvasLT> do find / |grep firefox | grep plugins
[04:10] <WhyvasLT> under root
[04:10] <WhyvasLT> in the terminal
[04:10] <exile2129> can someone help me setup my WG311v2 PCI Network Card
[04:11] <ceaser> bob2: actually, it is supposedly a part of x.org as well
[04:11] <bob2> ceaser: with the same name?
[04:12] <ceaser> bob2: apparently
[04:12] <ceaser> bob2: everything i'm reading says that its part of a 'make install.sdk' in the x.org source tree
[04:12] <Vaske_Car> Navatiu: how do I check why Ubuntu crashed?
[04:12] <breakthestate> WhyvasLT: found it.  any idea what libnpsoplugin.so   is?  i removed the totem, but this is still there
[04:12] <bob2> ceaser: what are you trying to build?
[04:12] <josh43> ok, ati is still killing me.. I cannot for the life of me get hardware 3d working.. I now resolved loading fglrx, but the opengl is still mesa (and now totem is broken)
[04:12] <ceaser> bob2: the x.org evdev input driver
[04:12] <breakthestate> open office something, nm
[04:12] <josh43> has anyone gotten a readon working in 5.10?
[04:13] <dooglus> Vaske_Car: check /var/log/kern.log - is there anything in there at around the time it crashed?
[04:13] <bob2> josh43: you're using the drivers from within ubuntu, right?
[04:13] <josh43> bob2; yep, restricted repository
[04:13] <josh43> (learned that lesson last time ;)
[04:14] <Vaske_Car> dooglus: I do not know when it crash... i sometimes I just see that Samba is not working and when I go there Ubuntu frizzing when i try to open menu etc... than i do manual restart
[04:15] <Vaske_Car> but i will check
[04:15] <marz> how can I rmdir of a directory that is not empty?
[04:15] <ceaser> marz: rm -r directory
[04:15] <josh43> bob2: DRI initialization failed! (any hints as to what I should be doing?)
[04:16] <marz> ceaser: thanks
[04:16] <dooglus> Vaske_Car: look at /var/log/kern.log - search up from the bottom for 'Inspecting /boot'.  That's the first line it puts there when it boots.  What do the 2 lines before that say?  They will be the last 2 lines it printed before it crashed
[04:16] <marz> exit
[04:17] <Amaranth> windex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterFilesystems
[04:18] <Ainvar> so is there a better way to connect to ntfs shares on a windows 2003 server other than having to recompile the kernel? To go into more detail I want to connect to my server as \\server\d$ and put that in a script to mount when i am at home. But when I do I get that darn cifs error
[04:18] <josh43> ainvar: apt-get install samba
[04:19] <josh43> Ainvar: Did you set up the user permissions as well?
[04:19] <Ainvar> user permission as in the user/pass I am using yes
[04:20] <Skelator> I'm havin a problem installing skype... It says that the libqt3c102-mt is not in my package manger when i do a search for it
[04:20] <litage> in an init script, i send a command to the background, write its PID to a file, and finish. however, checking ps for the PID in the file says the PID belongs to the init script rather than the background'd command. how can i fix this?:   http://rafb.net/paste/results/jqshWA14.html
[04:20] <josh43> Ainvar: What I mean is, I had to load a samba file in fstab that had the uname/pass in it
[04:21] <Ainvar> I tried that from the ubuntiguide
[04:21] <Ainvar> that is where i get the cifs error
[04:21] <josh43> "credentials=/etc/samba/user"
[04:21] <josh43> Have you tried explicitly sharing the drive instead of using C$?
[04:22] <yawgmoth7> Does anybody really feel like maybe helping me in getting IPtables right? Ive got a script and got some help from a hardcore SLACK user, and his method dosent seem to work, so does anybody have any tips or something to where the dcripts should go, getting IPtables to start at startup, and things like that?
[04:22] <Ainvar> josh43 if I put them in my fstab file I get issues, I can get to them fine in gnome though using gui
[04:23] <Ainvar> but it is pointless using it that way to me
[04:23] <yawgmoth7> Right now i just have it so nobosy can connect to me..using hosts.deny
[04:23] <sorush20> is there a program out there that allows you to creat an image map..
[04:23] <yawgmoth7> nobody*
[04:23] <Skelator> hey, whats a good media player for online radio (with a station directory)
[04:23] <josh43> Ainvar: Agreed.. Well, try crating a share for the drive, then explicitly setting user permissions.. even try setting "everyone" to full access
[04:24] <p0windah> sorush20: gimp
[04:24] <Ainvar> ok will try but I think I tried that some time back. But I also blinked many many times between then and now
[04:25] <windex> Amaranth, hey, what's the keyserver launchpad wants? i had a broken filesystem awhile back and my default users gpg.conf didn't get copied over to the fixed one.
[04:25] <yawgmoth7> Is there a certain folder that i should put the script in
[04:25] <haslguitar> how do you format a hd partition in linux?
[04:25] <MalachiCrunch> Hi? Anyone here wants to help me with ubuntu installation? My problem is:
[04:25] <client9> hi
[04:25] <MalachiCrunch> While I am installing 'ubunto base system' (during normal installation) i get an error on something related to 'initrd', it says the file is corrupt or something else, i burned my cd from .iso file a few days ago and the burning process returned OK. Is my CD really corrupted? I tryed 'Check CD-ROM Integrity' and it returned an error on one of the samba files !?!?!
[04:25] <MalachiCrunch> the fact is, should I try reburn my CD or there is another way this error to happen...
[04:25] <Amaranth> windex: i dunno
[04:25] <josh43> Ainvar; Yeah, been there, done that.. I even made things worse for myself: dualboot xp/5.10, plus an xbox, plus an osx box all wanting access to the xp fileserver through smb :)
[04:25] <Amaranth> windex: your key needs to have a trail to ogra's key
[04:25] <windex> Amaranth, k, i'll dig around.
[04:26] <haslguitar> MalachiCrunch, your cd in corrupt
[04:26] <TokenBad> cd #kubuntu
[04:26] <Amaranth> MalachiCrunch: Yep, sounds like a bad burn.
[04:26] <TokenBad> ack
[04:26] <MalachiCrunch> weird
[04:26] <TokenBad> in evolution email
[04:26] <josh43> MalachiCrunch: Could be a scratch, but likely a bad burn.. burn it as slow as you can stand (1x)
[04:26] <TokenBad> is there a way to have it save the emails you have in it?
[04:26] <haslguitar> MalachiCrunch, the download might have been bad
[04:27] <MalachiCrunch> oh..
[04:27] <yawgmoth7> "sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[04:27] <yawgmoth7> " What does that mean
[04:27] <haslguitar> MalachiCrunch, make sure to do a md5 check
[04:27] <yawgmoth7> wait
[04:27] <P8ntKid> I cant get AVI files to play in firefox on ubuntu.
[04:27] <yawgmoth7> i should have googled that :\
[04:27] <MalachiCrunch> i'll re-download it too
[04:27] <windex> Amaranth, i found the keyserver. its keyserver.ubuntu.com
[04:27] <MalachiCrunch> but u're sure there is no other way ...
[04:28] <MalachiCrunch> what is a md5 check??
[04:28] <boxman> experiencing a really odd problem here.. I cannot read burned dvd-r/dvd+r since i installed ubuntu. I can list the files, but i get a input/output error whenever i read or copy from it.
[04:28] <boxman> these same cds worked fine under debian and also works fine on my other computers and even my standalone dvd player
[04:28] <josh43> MalachiCrunch: Are you burning from linux? or windows?
[04:28] <MalachiCrunch> from windows xp
[04:29] <josh43> boxman: Can you boot a livecd?
[04:29] <boxman> example: cp: reading `/cdrom/mvideos/Kylie_Minogue-I_Believe_In_You(dvb_viva.pl).mpg': In put/output error
[04:29] <josh43> MalachiCrunch: Ok, there is an app.. give me 2min
[04:29] <haslguitar> how do you format a drive in linux?
[04:29] <boxman> josh43, probably.. why?
[04:29] <boxman> the odd part is that i can read normal cd-r just fine..
[04:29] <Imperanon> i installed proftpd, and i can connect to it, and i changed the port in /etc/proftpd.conf but for some reason it ignores that and only accepts connections on the default ftp port. i restarted the daemon too. several times. i even rebooted
[04:29] <boxman> most of my dvd-r was burned using k3b data dvds
[04:30] <josh43> boxman: Incase it's a coincidence and your dvd drive is broken
[04:30] <bimberi> haslguitar: the mkfs command (or variants - see "man -k mkfs")
[04:30] <dooglus> is there any way to tell mplayer NOT to use an overlay?  I'm trying to take a screenshot of it for a bug report, but because it's using an overlay the screenshot is blank
[04:30] <boxman> hmm... i highly doubt so, but i guess no hurt in trying..
[04:30] <su_> anyone here know how to unlock the lock keyboard>?
[04:31] <boxman> brb
[04:31] <dooglus> su_: how did you lock the keyboard?
[04:31] <discipleofyeshua> hey, anyone one?
[04:31] <cius> I have a question about the window preferences menu.
[04:31] <TokenBad> in evolution email is there a way to have it save emails you have...like back them up so can import them after doing a reinstall?
[04:31] <bimberi> haslguitar: that's after you have partitioned the drive btw
[04:31] <ubuntuking> hello all
[04:31] <su_> dooglus, i got an old pc
[04:32] <josh43> MalachiCrunch: Download this: http://www.slavasoft.com/hashcalc/ then you can check the MD5 hash of your download (the number it should be is on the download page)
[04:32] <discipleofyeshua> i was just wondering how to disable my firewall on ubuntu 5.04
[04:32] <su_> dooglus, theres a key lock switch on it but when i restarted it printed an error
[04:32] <discipleofyeshua> and also, if it would make my internet connection speed any faster, wich is intolerably slow!  :)
[04:32] <MalachiCrunch> ok, I'll try
[04:32] <cius> theres an option to have a "move window" key, whereby you hold win, press the left mouse button in a window and just drag to move.  Can I get this same behavior for the right mouse button and have it resize?
[04:32] <dooglus> su_: oh, ok.  I don't know, sorry.
[04:32] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: there is no firewall on ubuntu 5.04
[04:33] <su_> dooglus, it ok ty anyways
[04:33] <ubuntuking> does anybody know how to connect to a windows machine from ubuntu
[04:33] <dooglus> cius: the gnome window manager has very few features, so probably not.
[04:33] <ubuntuking> ???
[04:33] <P8ntKid> How do i get Enlightenment to show up on the Ubuntu logon screen?
[04:33] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth: i like that handle, have you ever seen huge bushes of purple amaranth growing on a tropical island?  do you have any suggestions as to what would cause my modem to go so slow on ubuntu?
[04:34] <dooglus> P8ntKid: you need to put a .desktop file somewhere that gdm will find it.
[04:34] <yawgmoth7> Does anybody here know anything about IPtables?
[04:34] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: yes.
[04:34] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: no and no, sorry
[04:34] <P8ntKid> dooglus: And how do i do that?
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> yawgmoth7, just ask ...
[04:34] <dooglus> P8ntKid: just a second...
[04:34] <yawgmoth7> dooglus: Do you mind helping me just a bit
[04:34] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: ok.
[04:34] <cius> dooglus, yea, I figured that would be the case, but I was hoping that if they were smart enough to do it for move, maybe they'd clue in and do it for resize as well
[04:34] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[04:34] <sorush20> p0windah: found it thanks..
[04:34] <selinium> ubunuking: take a look at samba
[04:34] <P8ntKid> dooglus: Ok.
[04:34] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: there are some little settings tweaks you can do but i don't know what they are. a google search might turn up something though
[04:35] <bimberi> ubuntuking: connect to a windows fileshare? - Places -> Connect to Server...
[04:35] <Juancho_Seb> hey has anyone successfully installed the game OpenMortal on ubuntu?
[04:35] <selinium> !tell ubuntuking about samba
[04:35] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth, usually it goes much faster on windows, it seems like maybe there is a port that is configured for a slow speed, or somthing like that, i think that linux could potentially run a modem just as fast as windows, right?
[04:35] <ubuntuking> connecting to another computer
[04:36] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: yeah, it should run it just as fast
[04:36] <yawgmoth7> Well i got some advice from a Slack user, and his advice didnt work, i have the script that i want, i just want to know where i should put the scripts, and just stuff like how i know if IPtables is reading the scripts and things like that......mainly just getting IPtables to read the script
[04:36] <propagandhi> discipleofyeshua: in my case i've noticed linux is as good if not better at utilising a connection, modem or otherwise
[04:36] <discipleofyeshua> great!
[04:37] <bimberi> ubuntuking: yes, but to do what? access its files? (see my first answer) control the computer? (vnc, freenx)
[04:37] <discipleofyeshua> if i could only find out what to do to MAKE it that fast! :)
[04:37] <dooglus> P8ntKid: see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=26017&postcount=4
[04:37] <P8ntKid> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=26017&postcount=4
[04:38] <P8ntKid> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=26017&postcount=4http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=26017&postcount=4
[04:38] <ubuntuking> bimberi, control the computer
[04:38] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: the script is probably a bunch of 'iptables' commands, right?  you just need to get the script to be run when you boot?
[04:38] <yawgmoth7> Yeah
[04:38] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth, what search criterea would you recomend?
[04:38] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh is run when you boot.  you can "." your script from there.
[04:39] <bimberi> ubuntuking: ah, then install vncserver on the windows box and connect to it from Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client on the ubuntu box
[04:39] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[04:39] <yawgmoth7> Let me try
[04:39] <dabaR> does gimpprint come installed on a hoary install?
[04:39] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: "linux modem speed" should be good
[04:39] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: and you can check whether iptables is set up or not by running "sudo iptables -L".  by default it will return 8 rows, 2 of them blank.  if you see more, then something is setting up itables.
[04:39] <P8ntKid> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=26017&postcount=4
[04:39] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth: are there any advantages to upgrading to the newsest release of ubuntu?
[04:40] <ubuntuking> bimberi, i know the ip address and were on the same network
[04:40] <P8ntKid> How do you copy text out of Eterm?
[04:40] <dabaR> is there a package that has printer drivers?
[04:40] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: new features, new apps, latest versions of things, more bugs fixed, etc
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> P8ntKid,  select, middle click normally
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> P8ntKid,  thats how a great many X apps do it.. tghe cut/paste stuff just got common with Gnome and kde.
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> P8ntKid,  befor that - it was almost always 'select, middle click'
[04:42] <Ainvar> cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.
[04:42] <Ainvar> 9357: protocol negotiation failed
[04:42] <Ainvar> SMB connection failed
[04:42] <Ainvar> that is an error I get when trying to mount a ntfs share from win2k3 server
[04:42] <Octane> anyone here running kubuntu on an amd64?
[04:42] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth: can you ask them to send you an extra CD or two, in case, like me, you are connecting at a slow speed for now?
[04:42] <josh43> Octane: I did as a livecd
[04:42] <bimberi> ubuntuking: ok, then what i've described might work for you :)
[04:42] <tristanmike> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2775 can someone look here and help me with the error on the bottom please.
[04:42] <Octane> im asking because i want to get kde 3.5
[04:43] <Octane> and they only release packages for i38
[04:43] <Octane> 6
[04:43] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: ask who to send an extra CD or two of what?
[04:43] <yawgmoth7> dooglas: So i just add a line that is the full path to my script
[04:43] <josh43> Octane: Download the source, then do the ./configure make make install thingie
[04:43] <ubuntuking> bimberi, what do u type in the computer
[04:43] <Octane> josh43: lol i know this, but there are packages avialbe from kubuntu
[04:44] <bimberi> ubuntuking: have you got vncserver running on the windows machine?
[04:44] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth: ask the Ubuntu folks to send an extra CD along with the single installation disk they send out
[04:44] <ubuntuking> bimberi, no, can i connect using the ip address and things
[04:44] <boxman> heh odd... it worked fine after a reboot..
[04:44] <josh43> Octane: Well, I suppose you could add the proper repositories, but usually those are the install cd.. noone really cares about a64/too/ much yet
[04:44] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: nope, you just get the one
[04:44] <discipleofyeshua> awwwww...
[04:44] <Octane> wow you really dont know what the fuck youre talking about, do you LOL
[04:44] <bimberi> ubuntuking: not to control the windows maching no
[04:45] <josh43> Octane: Usually, no ;P
[04:45] <ubuntuking> bimberi, after i set up the vnc client on the other machine then whar
[04:45] <ubuntuking> *what
[04:45] <jerryg> i am trying to compile flash for my ubuntu-amd64 however its is telling me i need libjpeg to complete the ./configure and when i apt-get install libjpeg nothing is there.  i have to take a nature break.. so hopefully maybe someone will have a solution for me when i get back.  the only thing i could think of were backports but i dont want to break anything.
[04:45] <josh43> Octane: But I know enough to like gnome better than kde :P
[04:45] <jerryg> breezy that is
[04:45] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth: how much does basic support cost, and do you know any advantages to it? like could they send you more programs on a disk, help you get stuff running, like a windows emulator, ect.?
[04:45] <Milk_> hello again!! I'm having problems installing azureus, I've got the latest jre, but azureus won't install
[04:46] <dooglus> jerryg: you have the source code for flash?
[04:46] <yawgmoth7> dooglas: So i just add a line that is the full path to my script
[04:46] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: I don't know anything about that stuff, sorry.
[04:46] <josh43> jerryg: That was one of the main problems people had.. you didn't used to be able to compile flash for ubuntu a64
[04:46] <boxman> seems quite nice
[04:46] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: if the script is executable, then yes
[04:46] <yawgmoth7> Yeah
[04:46] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth: do know if i can run windows programs on Ubuntu? how?
[04:46] <yawgmoth7> I have to make it executtable with chmod or something?
[04:46] <josh43> boxman: Agreed.. have you tried enlightenment yet?
[04:46] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: otherwise you can add ". /path/to/script" and it doesn't need to be executable - it will be 'sourced' by the current shell
[04:46] <cius> I enjoyed XFCE what little I've used it.
[04:46] <bimberi> ubuntuking: careful, you need to set up the _server_.  Then on your ubuntu box, go to Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client, set the protocol to VNC and put the address-of-your-windows-box:0 as the computer and press Connect
[04:46] <yawgmoth7> Oh
[04:47] <cius> but thats not much, so MHO doesn't mean much
[04:47] <boxman> josh43, i think i tried it ages ago, but i cant really recall what it was like
[04:47] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: Using a program called WINE.
[04:47] <QMario> Hello Seveas!!! :)
[04:47] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: if you want it to be executable, you use "chmod 755 /path/to/script" and make sure the first line says "#!/bin/sh"
[04:47] <ubuntuking> bimberi, thanks i'll try that. thanks for the advice
[04:47] <QMario> Does anyone know if Glade uses C++?
[04:47] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: but it's easier just to use ". /path/script.sh"
[04:47] <josh43> boxman: If you have hardware 3d support with your graphic card, apt-get and try it.. if not, there is a livecd.. it's very very nice
[04:48] <bimberi> shh QMario, he's probably asleep :)
[04:48] <bimberi> ubuntuking: yw :)
[04:48] <QMario> Sorry bimberi. :'(
[04:48] <boxman> josh43, i will do that :)
[04:48] <cius> I can't wait for e17
[04:48] <Milk_> can anyone help me install azureus?
[04:48] <bimberi> QMario: no apology necessary, just j/k :P
[04:48] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth: how well does it work? do have have to have an official copy of windows (9x, NT, 2000?) installed, or just some DLL files for linux to use?
[04:49] <QMario> Bimberi, I know. Me too. ;)
[04:49] <bimberi> QMario: oh, k :)
[04:49] <seethru> Milk_: what seems to be the problem with Azureus?
[04:49] <Milk_> seethru, first of all, I can't apt-get it.
[04:49] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: You don't need anything from a real windows installation. It can run most applications and a couple of games.
[04:50] <Milk_> but its also giving me an error when I try to run it after downloading th tar.bz2
[04:50] <seethru> mil: whats it say when you try to apt-get it?
[04:50] <Milk_> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE [java = SableVM] 
[04:51] <yawgmoth7> I'll be back
[04:51] <seethru> Milk_: is that just trying to run it after compiling the source? or is that the error apt-get gives you?
[04:51] <Milk_> its failing to fetch it
[04:51] <Milk_> or 404 errors
[04:51] <Milk_> for apt-get on the failing
[04:51] <QMario> Bimberi, how do I tell Ubuntu to never start the ES Daemon(ESD)?
[04:51] <Milk_> the source I got is just an extract and run kinda thing
[04:52] <seethru> Milk_: hmmm, I believe azureus is in backports...have you updated your sources.list with the new address for backports?
[04:52] <Milk_> not sure.. lemme check
[04:52] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth: are you sure about this?? thats fantastic!! why does everyone tell me that you have to have a licens copy of windows on your machine in another partion??
[04:52] <bimberi> QMario: sorry i don't know :/
[04:53] <Milk_> seethru, whats the new address?
[04:53] <QMario> Bimberi, okay.
[04:53] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: That's for dual booting.
[04:53] <discipleofyeshua> i have been trying to get a chatroom application called "Paltalk" on my computer, because there is a study group that meets there, with streaming audio lectures
[04:53] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: Which works best for almost every app.
[04:54] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth: many people have told me that you have to have windows installed in order for linux to access it and emulate it, but what you are saying is great news, have you tried it?
[04:54] <seethru> Milk_: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:54] <QMario> I am having trouble with building source code with Glade. What do these errors mean: http://pastebin.com/383443 ?
[04:55] <QMario>  Hello Amaranth!!! :) 
[04:55] <Amaranth> QMario: eek
[04:55] <discipleofyeshua> did you say that dual booting works better for almost every app? as in: running windows programs in their native enviroment is better...
[04:55] <jmg> guys:
[04:55] <jmg> Warning: Driver for device wifi0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension,
[04:55] <jmg> but has been compiled with version 17, therefore some driver features
[04:55] <jmg> anyone seen that?
[04:56] <Bicchi> Does anyone knows how to convert my ntfs drive to fat32 withouth loosing the data?
[04:56] <yawgmoth7> dooglus: It seems that its still not loading them, maybe the script is wrong?
[04:56] <QMario> Bicchi, why would you want to do that?
[04:56] <str8edge> Bicchi: use partition magic.
[04:56] <Bicchi> QMario: so that i can write to it
[04:56] <nalioth> QMario: you need this installed libglade2-dev
[04:56] <str8edge> Bicchi: or copy the data off first.
[04:56] <Bicchi> str8edge: it does not work
[04:56] <QMario> Str8edge, exactly.
[04:56] <troy> YOU SMELL
[04:56] <troy> I <3 You
[04:56] <troy> Llama
[04:56] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: add a line to the script which appends the current date to a file in /tmp - then you can check whether it ran or not.
[04:57] <troy> WTF LLAMA
[04:57] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: "date >> /tmp/log.txt" or some such
[04:57] <QMario> Troy, what are you doing?
[04:57] <troy> I'm doing jack all
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Ive used Partion mageic ages ago to go from NTFS to fat32 I thouhg.. I THINK that parted maybe able to do so also.
[04:57] <troy> you?
[04:57] <str8edge> bicchi: i've done it using partition magic, it works, but its not fun.
[04:57] <nalioth> QMario: dja see my answer to you?
[04:57] <discipleofyeshua> Bicchi: what you can do is: store everything on your FAT32 onto CD's or another HardDrive, then reformat the drive with NTFS, then copy all the files back onto the newly re-formated drive!
[04:57] <jerryg> josh43 you said people used to not be able to compile java for x64 amd however i am curious about your word "used"  i am wondering if perhaps it is doable.  just missing libjpeg package to get it working.
[04:57] <str8edge> bicchi: there's a ton of restrictions
[04:57] <Amaranth> dang lag
[04:57] <josh43> jerryg: Not java, flash
[04:57] <jerryg> oops
[04:57] <QMario> Nalioth, yes and hello! :)
[04:57] <jerryg> i meant flash
[04:57] <Amaranth> troy: Please try to stay on topic.
[04:58] <jerryg> is it doable ?
[04:58] <troy> Is this topic for nerdS?
[04:58] <josh43> jerryg: Yeah, I say used because that's the last I heard.. I dont know if someone got it working
[04:58] <aaron__> hi
[04:58] <troy> cause i dunno whats going on here
[04:58] <rob_p> yawgmoth7:    Is the script set executable?
[04:58] <jerryg> thanks josh
[04:58] <yawgmoth7> dooglas:I did sudo iptables -L and it dosetn ahve more than 8 lines.so i know that it didnt work
[04:58] <haslguitar> how do you format a drive in linux?
[04:58] <troy> s
[04:58] <troy>  ebtg
[04:58] <troy> esgh
[04:58] <troy> dh'
[04:58] <troy> hdg
[04:58] <Amaranth> troy: This channel is for help with the Ubuntu linux distro.
[04:58] <troy> HELP ME
[04:58] <yawgmoth7> im not sure, i thikn i did awhile back
[04:58] <yawgmoth7> think*
[04:58] <Amaranth> bah, dang lag
[04:59] <Amaranth> i kicked awhile ago
[04:59] <mylastmorning> hi all
[04:59] <nalioth> note. troy was only removed
[04:59] <jerryg> i dont suppose there is an exclusive amd64 channel is there ?  i seem to be having to figure bits and pieces out alot and it seems most people are on the 32 bit platform, which is great
[04:59] <Milk_> seethru, I added that to sources.list, not its not finding azureus at all
[04:59] <jerryg> or a 64 bit wiki ?
[04:59] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to get gsnes9x to work?
[04:59] <tiefox> hi. I just upgraded hoary to breezy...anything i try that is using gstreamer ( totem, banshee ) i get sound skipping
[04:59] <QMario> Amaranth, are you using 56K?
[04:59] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth: what is the easiest way to install WINE, and how then would i DL windows apps to run in the emulator?
[04:59] <p0windah> tiefox: reboot ?
[04:59] <Amaranth> QMario: yes, and downloading
[05:00] <tiefox> rebooted already serveral times
[05:00] <josh43> jerryg: if you find one, let me know
[05:00] <rob_p> yawgmoth7:  You can do a, "sudo chmod 755 /path/to/your/script" to make it executable if it's not already.
[05:00] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: install wine from syanptic
[05:00] <WhyvasLT> widgets for ubuntu??
[05:00] <WhyvasLT> desklets ?
[05:00] <discipleofyeshua> ok
[05:00] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: then just run exes like you're used to, i guess
[05:00] <jerryg> hehe i just started ubuntu today.  i thought channel might know.  if it were on another network it would be trash.
[05:00] <nalioth> WhyvasLT: superkaramba, gdesklets and adesklets
[05:00] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: if they work with WINE
[05:00] <level_5> anyone here running ubuntu? need some help getting nmap installed
[05:00] <QMario> Amaranth, how much do you pay monthly.
[05:00] <WhyvasLT> which is nicer nalioth ?
[05:00] <tiefox> if i listen to an mp3 in BMP it is all ok...but if i listen to the same mp3 on banshee or totem ...i get's all skipping
[05:00] <WhyvasLT> or has the most widgets?
[05:00] <nalioth> WhyvasLT: they all have their pros and cons
[05:00] <QMario> I suggest trying SBC's 14.95 DSL.
[05:00] <yawgmoth7> Ok so i set it as a executable
[05:01] <QMario> But this is off topic.
[05:01] <josh43> k, brb.. another reboot, and probly breaking X in the process :)
[05:01] <QMario> Sorry.
[05:01] <nalioth> WhyvasLT: check out the individual websites and make your own decision
[05:01] <pr0tocol> sup peoples
[05:01] <Amaranth> QMario: $13, i think. I don't pay it and it's Windows-only.
[05:01] <rob_p> yawgmoth7:  Now test it at the command line to see if it executes without errors.
[05:01] <WhyvasLT> ok thanks
[05:01] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[05:01] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth: since this chat program relies on the internet, can i connect in Linux, and run paltalk in WINE, and be able to connect to the internet with it?
[05:01] <Navatiu> SBC DSL driver or you mean by connection?
[05:01] <jerryg> wow i seem to be one of the few x64 users for breezy.
[05:01] <pr0tocol> Anyone got the nvidia drivers working with their GeForce FX 5200?
[05:01] <p0windah> jerryg: :)
[05:02] <yawgmoth7> No errors >:)
[05:02] <jerryg> heh.  the scourge !
[05:02] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: I don't see why not.
[05:02] <tiefox> anyone has any idea ?
[05:02] <p0windah> jerryg: mind if I ask why you bought a 64 bit machine only to play around with desktop linux on ?
[05:02] <yawgmoth7> But i still dont think that iptables is reading it
[05:02] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: what if you run the script manually using "sudo"?
[05:02] <pr0tocol> tiefox, whats the question?
[05:02] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: does it work then?
[05:02] <delltony> hi wondering if someone could help me with an installation issue with kubuntu. for some reason the md5sum matches the iso when i check it but when i run a md5sum check on the cd based on the md5sum.txt on the cdrom i get 3 errors of not matched md5sum's anyone else have this issue?
[05:02] <tiefox> sound skipping in any gstreamer application
[05:03] <nalioth> delltony: burn slowly
[05:03] <yawgmoth7> Id paste the logs from the thing from "sudo iptables -L" Still displays the same thing
[05:03] <yawgmoth7> And
[05:03] <p0windah> delltony: maybe consider burning the CD at a slower speed
[05:03] <yawgmoth7> Yes it does work
[05:03] <pr0tocol> tiefox, what sound server?
[05:03] <durt> pr0tocol: use nvidia-glx
[05:03] <rob_p> yawgmoth7:  Good!  Now check that the rules loaded by doing a, "iptables -t filter -L -n"
[05:03] <dooglus> tiefox: I get skipping too if I use ALSA, but OSS is OK.
[05:03] <jerryg> p0windah, i'm a sucker for high performance cpus.  i was lead to believe it was the right time.
[05:03] <tiefox> esd .
[05:03] <delltony> ok, i have burned it 2 times on two seperate pcs and same problem is why i was wondering
[05:03] <tiefox> but in BMP sound is ok..with any output plugin
[05:03] <p0windah> jerryg: good salesmen
[05:03] <pr0tocol> durt, tried it. Nothing.  And it's funny because the log reports absolutely NO errors that should be stopping the modules to load
[05:03] <tiefox> only in applications that are using gstreamer
[05:03] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth: thank you, you have helped me this day, i KNEW that all the others were wrong when they said you had to have official WIN installation... thats great news.  what version of windows does WINE emulate? how does that work?
[05:04] <yawgmoth7> Yeah.........its not loading.......from what i can see
[05:04] <mylastmorning> does anyone use snes9x?
[05:04] <delltony> and both time its the same files :(
[05:04] <p0windah> delltony: have you double checked the hash you have is correct ?
[05:04] <yawgmoth7> And ports arent firewalled
[05:04] <durt> pr0tocol: run "modprobe nvidia"
[05:04] <QMario> Yawgmoth7, how did you use that emoticon?
[05:04] <QMario> >:)
[05:04] <delltony> well i'm using the hash file from the md5sum.txt that comes in the iso
[05:04] <delltony> so i would guess so
[05:04] <yawgmoth7> Yea O_O
[05:04] <pr0tocol> durt, lol I did all of that
[05:04] <mylastmorning> does anyone use snes9x?
[05:04] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: could you send me the script?
[05:04] <rob_p> yawgmoth7:  What firewall script are you running?
[05:04] <yawgmoth7> Yeah
[05:04] <dooglus> (@gmail.com)
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> mylastmorning,  yes.
[05:04] <p0windah> delltony: cant hurt to jump onto another mirror site and grab their md5 to double check
[05:04] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[05:05] <Amaranth> discipleofyeshua: it generally works as win98, but it has some win2k/winxp things implemented too so some apps for those OSes will work
[05:05] <durt> pr0tocol: so whats the problem?
[05:05] <yawgmoth7> dooglus@gmail.com im assuming?
[05:05] <jerryg> actually my dads computer geek reading had uhm influenced me and for some reason i thought it was time to go for it.  no salesman.  plus i knew that 64 bit linux platforms were very good.
[05:05] <dooglus> yup
[05:05] <rob_p> yawgmoth7:  I'd like to see it too.
[05:05] <nalioth> delltony: slow roasting is the key to tasty cd-rs
[05:05] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[05:05] <yawgmoth7> Email?
[05:05] <p0windah> jerryg: fair nuff
[05:05] <mylastmorning> Dr_Willis, do you use the Gnome version?
[05:05] <discipleofyeshua> Amaranth: ok
[05:05] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: or just use the 'paste' site:
[05:05] <pr0tocol> durt, honestly, the error I get Signal 11 crap! thats all
[05:05] <dooglus> !paste
[05:05] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:05] <rob_p> yawgmoth7:  rob@pectol.com
[05:05] <jerryg> at least i got a via chipset -- though i heard the nvidia one works fine as well heh.  i'd still rather go with via though for linux
[05:05] <delltony> the iso md5sum or the md5sum.txt for the cd as a whole?
[05:05] <abajaj> join #ubuntu
[05:05] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: go to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl and paste it...
[05:05] <Kensey> My laptop stores its RTC as local time.  It dual-boots Hoary and Windows.  Is there a way to store the date as UTC and make Windows display it as local time without Windows changing it?
[05:05] <mylastmorning> Dr_Willis, do you use the Gnome version?
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> mylastmorning,  not sure. :P i tend to use zsnes mainly.
[05:06] <moparfan90> whats that desktop manager called? ecfe?
[05:06] <p0windah> delltony: just the md5sum.txt, normally it can be found as a seperate file on mirror sites
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> mylastmorning,  i was thinking the snes9x just had a gnome front end.
[05:06] <miller> hi
[05:06] <delltony> oh ok didn't know that let me try that
[05:06] <mylastmorning> Dr_Willis, how do you run run the gnome front-end version?
[05:06] <abajaj> hi..does anyone know how to make my nikon coolpix camera (usb mass storage) SHOW UP ON UBUNTU 5.04?
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> mylastmorning,  hmm.. i installed some front end . and its in the menus I thought.
[05:06] <miller> how can i uninstall doom3
[05:07] <pr0tocol> durt, anymore ideas?
[05:07] <p0windah> miller: just remove the doom3 directory
[05:07] <moparfan90> moparfan90 whats that desktop manager called? ecfe?
[05:07] <Navatiu> rm /doom3/ i guess
[05:07] <moparfan90> whats that desktop manager called? ecfe?
[05:07] <dooglus> moparfan90: do you mean XFCE?
[05:07] <moparfan90> oo  yeah
[05:07] <crimsun> abajaj: plug it in
[05:07] <abajaj> anyone know how to recognize usb mass storage devices on ubuntu?
[05:07] <miller> ok thanks
[05:07] <Navatiu> np
[05:07] <abajaj> i tried...it does not recognize it
[05:07] <p0windah> abajaj: it should be automatic
[05:08] <kkathman> hey all :)
[05:08] <abajaj> do i need to reinstall ubuntu with soe options?
[05:08] <durt> pr0tocol: nope, no idea what that means :p
[05:08] <p0windah> abajaj: after you plug it in and turn on your camera, have a look in /media/ directory
[05:08] <yawgmoth7> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2779
[05:08] <abajaj> some
[05:08] <JustSomeone> Hey, when you change the port of an ftp server, do you then have to telnet(in windows) to that port, you cant use ftp?
[05:08] <yawgmoth7> There
[05:08] <pr0tocol> hmm
[05:08] <pr0tocol> anyone else have an FX 5200?
[05:08] <p0windah> abajaj: what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[05:08] <miller> i can see my ntfs partition but i cant write it
[05:08] <abajaj> 5.04
[05:08] <miller> is it possible
[05:08] <delltony> well pardon me but on all three of those image sites europe,us whatever all i see is a md5sum file that shows the ones for the iso's and that md5sum matchs the iso that i currently have :(
[05:09] <QMario> How do I create PDFs?
[05:09] <QMario> Is there an open-source PDF creator?
[05:09] <yawgmoth7> Just got it off the net............
[05:09] <trikar21b> just make it in open office
[05:09] <Navatiu> there is one qmario over on sourceforge.net, qmario
[05:09] <yawgmoth7> And like, im not sure if ive even gone through and set my settings yet
[05:09] <Navatiu> google for it
[05:09] <trikar21b> open office lets you create pdf's
[05:09] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: that script doesn't set up the firewall - it sets up some variables which will be used by a separate script that sets up the firewall...
[05:09] <haslguitar> how do you format a drive in linux?
[05:09] <trikar21b> just use that
[05:09] <p0windah> delltony: the only other thing I can suggest is that you defragment your harddrive, double check your burner softwares settings and burn the CD again at a low speed. and then walk away from your machine until its finished burning
[05:10] <userubuntu> Do I have a modem Agere and don't I get to install (am I beginner in the linux) does anybody can me to help?
[05:10] <abajaj> I connected the camera via usb port, and then did /media, i only see cdrom and floppy
[05:10] <trikar21b> how can u update files in the package manager?
[05:10] <moparfan90> does anotone have links for  white-box  and black-box
[05:10] <abajaj> no camera or usb device
[05:10] <yawgmoth7> Figures.............
[05:10] <miller> is it possible write in a ntfs partition???
[05:10] <p0windah> delltony: typically most users dont have these kinds of problems
[05:10] <haslguitar> miller, no
[05:10] <trikar21b> how do you update files in package manager
[05:10] <miller> :( ok haslguitar
[05:10] <trikar21b> how do you update files in package manager??
[05:10] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: the script which is supposed to run after it, /etc/init.d/firewall, doesn't exist in the ubuntu repositories.
[05:10] <kkathman> trikar21b: not sure exactly what you are asking
[05:10] <p0windah> trikar21b: update, then apply in synaptic
[05:11] <yawgmoth7> Oh
[05:11] <delltony> well let me go see if i can figure this out
[05:11] <trikar21b> yeah, synaptic package manager
[05:11] <kkathman> trikar21b: as long as your repositories are ok, use the a package manager
[05:11] <abajaj> p0windah, do I need to reinstall ubuntu or somethng?
[05:11] <yawgmoth7> So i have to get a script that will run that one as a set of rules
[05:11] <userubuntu> Do I have a modem Agere and don't I get to install (am I beginner in the linux) does anybody can me to help?
[05:11] <p0windah> abajaj: I dont think that would change anything
[05:11] <trikar21b> yeah, but how do i update them, i marked them but i cant update them, how do i do this?
[05:11] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: or you could get a completely different script, such as "ipkungfu", which is in the ubuntu reps.
[05:11] <jrr> anyone know where i might find the .config used for kernels from apt?
[05:11] <p0windah> abajaj: whats the model name of your camera again ?
[05:12] <durt> pr0tocol: maybe this helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-11539.html
[05:12] <crimsun> jrr: /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[05:12] <trikar21b> yeah, but how do i update them, i marked them but i cant update them, how do i do this
[05:12] <yawgmoth7> Awesome
[05:12] <p0windah> trikar21b: click on "apply"
[05:12] <trikar21b> apply?
[05:12] <trikar21b> ok
[05:12] <yawgmoth7> dooglus: Can i just PM you
[05:12] <jrr> crimsun: thanks!
[05:12] <trikar21b> let me try
[05:12] <dooglus> jrr: it should be in /boot/config* already
[05:12] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: sure
[05:12] <abajaj> ok, basic question: can I use a memory stick that has jpg files on it, from windows 2000 read directly into ubuntu...assuming the usb port were working?
[05:12] <kkathman> trikar21b:  you can go directly to /etc/apt/sources.list and do it in a text editor
[05:12] <abajaj> my camera is nikon coolpix 2500
[05:12] <trikar21b> thanks
[05:12] <pr0tocol> btw, durt, I'm using breezy
[05:12] <moparfan90> on boot theres something called hotplug sub-system.. what is that and do i need it?
[05:12] <trikar21b> that worked
[05:12] <crimsun> moparfan90: yes you need it.
[05:12] <p0windah> abajaj: sure, you can use your usb stick. but let me see if I can find something about your coolpix
[05:13] <abajaj> p0windah: thanks
[05:13] <zakame> jrr: it's in /boot/config-*
[05:13] <rob_p> yawgmoth7:  Unless you find the exact script that goes along with that config file, it probably won't do you much good.  Here's another firewall script for Ubuntu if you're interested:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/14/29/
[05:13] <crimsun> moparfan90: it interfaces with udev to make the upper desktop layers aware of what devices have been inserted/removed
[05:13] <nalioth> QMario: did that fix you up?
[05:13] <yawgmoth7> I cant really PM you
[05:13] <abajaj> p0windah: here is the thing, it's not even recognizing my memory stick
[05:13] <yawgmoth7> dooglus
[05:13] <concept10> Anyone succesfully install Skype?
[05:13] <QMario> Nalioth, no. I can only generate C source code, not C++ or any other source code.
[05:13] <_jason> is there anyway to prevent gnome form placing an icon for the cdrom on the desktop when i put a cdrom in the drive?
[05:13] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: yes?
[05:14] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: you should be able to!  why not?
[05:14] <yawgmoth7> Lol
[05:14] <yawgmoth7> Well
[05:14] <crimsun> abajaj: is sd_mod loaded?
[05:14] <abajaj> crimsun: how do i check that? lsmod?
[05:14] <crimsun> yes
[05:14] <yawgmoth7> How do i  do it in Xchat
[05:14] <yawgmoth7> o_O
[05:14] <moparfan90> , o thanks... thats the thing that takes the longest in boot
[05:15] <yawgmoth7> NO
[05:15] <QMario> Got you!! ;)
[05:15] <yawgmoth7> I hate asking dumb questions like that
[05:15] <QMario> Hee hee.
[05:15] <abajaj> crimsun" no only dm_mod isloaded
[05:15] <yawgmoth7> Because im generally smart when it comes to computers......but
[05:15] <crimsun> abajaj: load sd_mod then
[05:15] <yawgmoth7> im kidna new when it comes to linux
[05:16] <abajaj> crimsun: how do i load a module?
[05:16] <Kensey> how come when the system restarts the hardware abstraction layer, I get a file window onto my Windows partition?
[05:16] <crimsun> abajaj: sudo modprobe sd_mod
[05:16] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: I PM'ed you.  don't you see a tab with my name on it?
[05:16] <yawgmoth7> No
[05:16] <yawgmoth7> Just
[05:16] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: or you can just type "/query dooglus"
[05:17] <abajaj> crimsun: done...what do i do next?
[05:17] <p0windah> abajaj: click on applications->graphics->gthumb
[05:17] <moparfan90> what do you think is the best? openbox, blackbox, or fluxbox?
[05:17] <yawgmoth7> There i PM'd you dooglus
[05:17] <p0windah> abajaj: as far as I can tell that will be able to access the images on your coolpix 2500 without any problems
[05:17] <karen> Hello All---- if anyone can help , please do.  My printer has stopped working for the second time. It has jobs stuck in it and doesn't seem to want to budge. What can I do??
[05:18] <crimsun> abajaj: remove and reinsert the camera's cable
[05:18] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: I don't think you did :)
[05:18] <abajaj> crimsun:
[05:18] <abajaj> doing
[05:18] <Uchiha> Does ubuntu have support fir wireless cards on current ibm thinkpads?
[05:18] <abajaj> p0windah: thanks...maybe the sd_mod may help
[05:18] <nalioth> moparfan90: use them all, and you decide
[05:18] <moparfan90> ok
[05:18] <nybble> hey anyone have dependancy problems with skype on breezy?
[05:18] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: how about MSN or ICQ or Yahoo! or AIM or Skype?
[05:18] <nybble> libqt3c102-mt
[05:18] <nybble> is needed
[05:18] <nybble> Uchiha: if they are centrino
[05:18] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[05:19] <yawgmoth7> What is your screen name
[05:19] <DansFloyd> hey, how do i add my windows partition to the boor GRUB
[05:19] <dooglus> which?
[05:19] <yawgmoth7> By the way
[05:19] <DansFloyd> boot*
[05:19] <propagandhi> haha my internet provider just sent me two free promotional mobile phones instead of just one
[05:19] <yawgmoth7> I just typed dooglas instead of dooglus
[05:19] <dooglus> uh huh
[05:19] <yawgmoth7> Yahoo
[05:19] <yawgmoth7> AIM
[05:19] <abajaj> crimsun: ok i reinserted the usb cable...what do i do next?
[05:19] <yawgmoth7> It doset matter
[05:19] <Uchiha> nybble: Are you REALLY sure it will work?
[05:19] <crimsun> abajaj: it should work
[05:19] <nybble> if it is Centrino based, it should work
[05:19] <p0windah> abajaj: it might help with the filesystem, but gthumb will just show and allow you to grab the images immediately
[05:19] <QMario> Is it possible to edit PDFs using gpdf?
[05:19] <abajaj> crimsun: how do i know if it works..is it a newdirectory under media?
[05:20] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: try the /query again with the right spelling?
[05:20] <nybble> Uchiha: the intel wireless cards are quite supported i'm using one right now
[05:20] <yawgmoth7> I just did
[05:20] <nybble> what model number are you looking at?
[05:20] <karen> Hello All---- if anyone can help , please do.  My printer has stopped working for the second time. It has jobs stuck in it and doesn't seem to want to budge. What can I do??
[05:20] <Amaranth> QMario: nope, only adobe acrobat can do that
[05:20] <abajaj> p0windah: it's not doing that
[05:20] <abajaj> let me try again
[05:20] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: oh, so it's not working for some reason...
[05:20] <yawgmoth7> Yeah
[05:20] <p0windah> abajaj: just give it a shot... gthumb is a digital camera management program..
[05:20] <yawgmoth7> So
[05:20] <yawgmoth7> Yahoo or AIM it is
[05:20] <dooglus> yawgmoth7: try AIM "Chris319636"
[05:20] <Deekin> Yay finally install it this looks awesome!
[05:20] <QMario> Amaranth, not even the "xpdf -i" package?
[05:21] <crimsun> abajaj: did an icon appear on your desktop?
[05:21] <Uchiha> nybble: can thinkpads come preloaded with linux?
[05:21] <Amaranth> QMario: never heard of it
[05:21] <karen> ok if anyone reads my printer problem -- message me at HamNcheeseGirl on gaim or yahoo or whatever the hell it is. thanks
[05:21] <p0windah> abajaj: when you load it, click on the file menu, then import photos
[05:21] <Amaranth> QMario: but afaik only adobe acrobat can edit PDFs
[05:21] <p0windah> abajaj: it will detect your camera and load thumbnails automatically
[05:21] <nybble> Uchiha: i've heard of it a while ago, i'm not sure if they still or ever did it
[05:21] <QMario> Amaranth, so there are currently no open-source programs that can edit PDFs?
[05:21] <Amaranth> QMario: what i would do is write the document in open office, save it in OpenDocument format, then export a PDF version
[05:22] <nalioth> Amaranth: there are several things on linux that can edit pdfs
[05:22] <abajaj> NO icon on desktop..i tried gthumb, says no camera detected when I attempt to import
[05:22] <Amaranth> QMario: then just edit the OpenDocument file, save, and reexport
[05:22] <QMario> Nalioth, please don't say GIMP.
[05:22] <Navatiu> openoffice can edit pdf for one. :)
[05:22] <nalioth> QMario: no, docbook
[05:22] <Navatiu> wait.. *cough* export i think.
[05:22] <abajaj> p0windah:it says unknown model
[05:22] <Amaranth> nalioth: They must not be very good.
[05:22] <satafterh> what the command to update the disro to 5.10?
[05:22] <p0windah> abajaj: do you have hotplug running ?
[05:22] <nalioth> Amaranth: they are excellent. just not well known
[05:23] <rukuartic> satafterh: apt-get
[05:23] <abajaj> p0windah: how do i check that?
[05:23] <satafterh> apt-get ??
[05:23] <QMario> Nalitoth, how do I run docbook?
[05:23] <rukuartic> satafterh: And thats about as far as I know ;P
[05:23] <p0windah> abajaj: open a terminal and type "sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart"
[05:23] <DansFloyd> how do i add my windows partition to the boot Grub... there used to be an icon in the systen setting, but its not there anymore
[05:23] <rukuartic> satafterh: :: is a n00b::
[05:23] <vbgunz_> I love everyone here, you're all great!
[05:24] <Navatiu> good vbgunz
[05:24] <nybble> so anyone having issues with skype and breezy?
[05:24] <abajaj> p0windah:it restarted the hotplug...thanks...what now?
[05:25] <durt> nybble: i had the same problem with the ubuntu opera package, but the debian one works - try another package or binary
[05:25] <p0windah> abajaj: unplug cable, then plug it back in. then in a terminal type "ls -al /dev/usb/"  hopefully there is something like lp0 in there
[05:25] <QMario> Nalioth?
[05:25] <nalioth> QMario:
[05:26] <QMario> How do I run docbook?
[05:26] <abajaj> p0windah:no such file or directory
[05:26] <rukuartic> satafterh: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/ReleaseNotes504/document_view scroll down to the bottom
[05:27] <nalioth> QMario: it's a thing that you need to learn how to code for (it's lower on the chain then html )
[05:27] <nalioth> QMario: it can export or save to html, pdf, and other formats
[05:27] <p0windah> abajaj: you got me...
[05:27] <p0windah> abajaj: it should work out of the box
[05:27] <luckyaba> anyone know whre the eggdrop conf file is?
[05:27] <QMario> Nalioth, huh?
[05:27] <nybbled> durt: wanting libqt3<blah blah blah>
[05:27] <mylastmorning> anyone know of a P2P client for gnome?
[05:27] <abajaj> p0windah:thanks for helping me...is there a book you would recommend that shows all these commands and the way stuff is organized in Ubuntu
[05:27] <QMario> What do you mean code for?
[05:27] <abajaj> p0windah:like what is a module, etc etc
[05:27] <p0windah> abajaj: its possible that upgrading to breezy may help your chances in getting it working
[05:28] <nalioth> QMario: ask uncle google about "docbook howto" or "getting started with docbook"
[05:28] <QMario> Nalioth, so its a markup language?
[05:28] <abajaj> p0windah:what is breezy?
[05:28] <nalioth> QMario: sort of
[05:28] <luckyaba> mylastmorning: i use appollon.
[05:28] <abajaj> p0windah:oh breezy beaver?
[05:28] <abajaj> p0windah:the next version?
[05:28] <p0windah> abajaj: not really, the officlal ubuntu website and the ubuntuforums are the best resources available right now
[05:28] <p0windah> abajaj: yes, breezy is the next version. coming out in about a week
[05:28] <abajaj> p0windah:is ther a document I can read that explains the directory structure of ubuntu, and how stuff is organized...
[05:29] <mylastmorning> luckyaba where can I go to download that?
[05:29] <QMario> Nalioth, so is it possible to export PDFs using Abiword?
[05:29] <p0windah> abajaj: its more or less the same as debian, the best place to hunt for information is the ubuntuforums
[05:29] <mylastmorning> !appollon
[05:29] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, mylastmorning
[05:29] <nalioth> QMario: not directly
[05:30] <abajaj> p0windah:thanks
[05:30] <durt> qmario: you can print to a pdf
[05:30] <z4k4ri4> Is breezy have wesnoth package?
[05:30] <z4k4ri4> does it have some website to lookup like packages.debian.org
[05:30] <luckyaba> mylastmorning: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59857&highlight=apollon
[05:30] <QMario> So is Abiword  "better" than Open Office's Word Processor?
[05:31] <durt> z4kri4: packages.ubuntu.org
[05:31] <nalioth> QMario: no. it is different and lighter
[05:31] <Imperanon> depends on what you are doing i guess
[05:31] <p0windah> QMario: its a competing suite, more of a personal preference
[05:31] <avalost> staroffice 8 is pretty nifty
[05:31] <p0windah> QMario: some like oo.o, some like abiword, some like vi... and a very few liek emacs
[05:32] <QMario> P0windah, emacs. Heh. :)
[05:32] <Kensey> "better" is a variable whose value depends on several local system values.
[05:33] <Kensey> man I always did like pico myself.
[05:33] <DansFloyd> how can get root access so i can edit the grub menu.lst
[05:33] <jrr> sudo bash
[05:33] <DansFloyd> i need root access
[05:33] <p0windah> DansFloyd: in a terminal type "sudo -i"
[05:33] <lightstar> sudo -s
[05:33] <p0windah> DansFloyd: it gives you POWER@!
[05:33] <DansFloyd> -i or -s?
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> DansFloyd, -s
[05:33] <p0windah> -i is marginally more secure
[05:33] <lightstar> sudo -s gives ur root access
[05:33] <lightstar> :)
[05:33] <QMario> So should I install gnome-office?
[05:33] <DansFloyd> kk
[05:34] <DansFloyd> thx
[05:34] <p0windah> QMario: you can install both and pick which one your like better
[05:34] <durt> gnome-office = abiword
[05:34] <DansFloyd> still cant edit the file
[05:34] <DansFloyd> ...
[05:34] <QMario> What is the gnome-core?
[05:34] <p0windah> QMario: they're both free and can exist on your machine at the same time without any conflicts
[05:34] <DansFloyd> do i edit it with the terminal
[05:34] <DansFloyd> ?
[05:35] <MojOrow> Hi all
[05:35] <pr0tocol> hmm
[05:35] <Imperanon> gnome core is this music short guys with big beards go to clubs and listen to
[05:35] <pr0tocol> I can't even get X to start with the 'nvidia' module...
[05:35] <QMario> Okay. That was what I was worrying about. :)
[05:35] <p0windah> DansFloyd: after that command in the terminal, and entering your password, type "gedit /whatever/the/file/is.called"
[05:35] <MojOrow> Might i ask how am i supposed to go about installing and configuring an ssh server on ubuntu
[05:35] <MojOrow> lol
[05:35] <MojOrow> this is a ubuntu chat
[05:35] <Uchiha> Do all current ibm wireless thinkpads use Intel Centrino.
[05:35] <DansFloyd> k thx
[05:35] <MojOrow> gar i am sleepy
[05:36] <lightstar> apt-get install openssh-server
[05:36] <lightstar> moj0row : no special config required unless u really 1 2
[05:36] <pr0tocol> damnit! why won't FX 5200 and Breezy work together with nvidia-glx
[05:37] <p0windah> pr0tocol: baby jesus hates you ?
[05:37] <Imperanon> baby jesus is a dickhole
[05:37] <p0windah> *gasp*
[05:37] <rukuartic> How do you set up a static IP address? ifconfig?
[05:37] <randomc0de> you could try the network gui tool
[05:37] <p0windah> rukuartic: system->networking or /etc/network/interfaces
[05:37] <QMario> Imperanon, language.
[05:37] <pr0tocol> p0windah, probably.
[05:38] <pr0tocol> p0windah, I wouldn't doubt it one bit.  I was the 4th wise man and didn't give his ass a gift... I could see why
[05:38] <rukuartic> p0windah: Thanks.
[05:38] <mylastmorning> luckyaba how do you run apollon?
[05:39] <mylastmorning> !apollon
[05:39] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, mylastmorning
[05:39] <durt> did you know that its hispanic heritage month? yay!
[05:39] <p0windah> this is totally off-topic, but I've discovered the single greatest drink to sustain me through the long hours of #ubuntu....  apple juice with chunky aloe
[05:39] <abajaj> p0windah:u still there?
[05:39] <p0windah> its awesome
[05:40] <Davey> p0windah, "chunky aloe" ?
[05:40] <p0windah> abajaj: yeah, need advice on drinks and other exciting condiments ?
[05:40] <p0windah> Davey: aloe vera
[05:40] <Davey> you're... drinking aloe vera?!
[05:40] <JustSomeone> lol, aloe vera....
[05:40] <randomc0de> I'm having trouble with a dual monitor setup and xinerama... I have the xorg.conf file all set up but my 2nd monitor stares blankly at me
[05:40] <abajaj> p0windah:it seems like i need the usb support for ms-dos FAT USB drives...the nikon camera will then be read as a USB device
[05:40] <p0windah> it "sets me above you guys" :)
[05:40] <abajaj> p0windah: i like single malt scotch
[05:40] <Davey> randomc0de, Radeon or Nvidia?
[05:41] <p0windah> malt scotch and aloe... no thanks :)
[05:41] <Davey> or other? do others work? :)
[05:41] <randomc0de> Nvidia and 3dfx, the Nvidia works fine
[05:41] <JustSomeone> If you don't mind me asking, how does aloe vera taste?
[05:41] <Davey> randomc0de, hrm, what Nvidia card?
[05:41] <p0windah> abajaj: one sec
[05:41] <pr0tocol> p0windah, hmm... you should enjoy that with a bowl of "Chunky's Soup"...the serloin steak one
[05:41] <randomc0de> geforce 6800 on nvidia drivers, voodoo 3 on tdfx
[05:41] <Davey> randomc0de, tried putting both monitors on the same card (DVI -> VGA connect)
[05:41] <pr0tocol> I guarantee you'll love it
[05:41] <abajaj> p0windah:not a problem...
[05:41] <p0windah> JustSomeone: not a very strong flavour actually, more of a texture. similar to watermelon and water chestnut
[05:41] <randomc0de> tried it, no go
[05:42] <Davey> randomc0de, you shoulda gotten a VGA convertor in your 6800's box, its really the easiest way to do it. Just configure two of everything and enable Xinerama :)
[05:42] <QMario> Good night nalioth_zZz!!! :)
[05:42] <durt> p0windah, does it remind you of eating man juice?
[05:42] <JustSomeone> I think i'll stick with bawls.
[05:42] <mylastmorning> anyone use apollon?
[05:42] <randomc0de> does that slow the 6800 down any?
[05:42] <nalioth_zZz> QMario: be safe
[05:42] <p0windah> durt: only when I concentrate
[05:42] <lightstar> mylastmornign : me
[05:42] <JustSomeone> lmao @ durt
[05:42] <Davey> randomc0de, not so's you'd notice, I did it quite nicely on a Nvidia 5600
[05:43] <mylastmorning> lightstar how do you make it run?
[05:43] <lightstar> mylastmorning : hang on..lemme c if i can find the guide i got off the net:)
[05:43] <randomc0de> Davey, I just got a LCD monitor so I could use the DVI out... I'll go scurry off and try that, thanks
[05:43] <Davey> randomc0de, :)
[05:44] <p0windah> abajaj: you have "usbmgr", "usbmount" and "usbview" installed ?
[05:44] <abajaj> p0windah:how do i check for those?
[05:44] <_rb_> heyas. how do i change the title bar colours etc in gnome or kde in hoary
[05:44] <_rb_> ???
[05:44] <luckyaba> mylastmorning: trouble?
[05:44] <p0windah> abajaj: open terminal and type "sudo apt-get install --reinstall usbmgr usbmount usbview"
[05:45] <Davey> god damn, gtk-webcore takes forever to compile
[05:46] <Davey> but if I get safari on Linux, it'll be worth it :)
[05:46] <zakame> is there a FOSS equiv/approx for Sierra's Print Artist?
[05:46] <Davey> zakame, what is that?
[05:46] <abajaj> p0windah:do i type in apt -get install usbmgr
[05:46] <abajaj> or
[05:46] <abajaj> p0windah:or do itype in
[05:47] <abajaj> p0windah:apt -get install --reinstall ....?
[05:47] <p0windah> type "sudo apt-get install --reinstall usbmgr usbmount usbview"
[05:47] <p0windah> without the qoutations..
[05:47] <zakame> Davey: it is a somewhat print-publishing program with lots of clipart and layouts
[05:48] <mylastmorning> QUESTION: I removed my trash can and now I can't get it back anyone know how to?
[05:48] <MadpilotPPC> zakame, there's Scribus, it's a fullblown desktop publishing app
[05:48] <FroG] MtL[> hi guys
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> yes scribus is sweet
[05:48] <FroG] MtL[> i've a little question
[05:48] <Imperanon> scribus is more like quark express
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> along with inkscape
[05:48] <abajaj> p0windah:apt: command not found
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> you can do some nice work
[05:48] <Davey> inkscape is awesome :)
[05:48] <FroG] MtL[> i want to know if sb know a good php editor ?
[05:48] <p0windah> apt-get is one word
[05:48] <Imperanon> and not something with lots of clipart
[05:48] <p0windah> FroG] MtL[: vim
[05:49] <FroG] MtL[> are you sure p0windah ?
[05:49] <abajaj> p0windah:wait i thought it was apt -get but its apt-get
[05:49] <p0windah> FroG] MtL[: I use it 8 hours a day
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> apt-get
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> it is
[05:49] <FroG] MtL[> ok
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> apt-cache search "filename" or part thereof if you need to find a package
[05:50] <FroG] MtL[> but i tkink it's on backports no ?
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> no backports...
[05:50] <p0windah> vim ?... should be in main
[05:50] <abajaj> p0windah: ok it says usbmgr is not available but hotplug replaces it
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> vim is right in main
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> yes
[05:50] <abajaj> p0windah:so i will try to install hotplug, right
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> abajaj, you already have it
[05:50] <p0windah> abajaj: you can try reinstalling hotplug and rebooting
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> apecat, type "which hotplug"
[05:51] <p0windah> abajaj: but this all seems odd since your hardware should work out of the box
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> or apropos hotplug
[05:51] <p0windah> abajaj: you're sure the camera and cable are working ?
[05:51] <abajaj> p0windah:ok..it is asking me t insert the cd
[05:51] <abajaj> p0windah:yeah they work fine in windows
[05:52] <seethru> hey, anyone here run amaroK in Gnome and been successful when transferring songs to their iPod?
[05:52] <p0windah> we should move this to pm to reduce the spam
[05:52] <FroG] MtL[> vim ?
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> seethru, yes... i use gtkpod
[05:52] <FroG] MtL[> is it really good
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> works very well, seethru
[05:52] <FroG] MtL[> it seems to be based on the console ?
[05:52] <p0windah> FroG] MtL[: depends what kind of coder you are
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> FroG] MtL[, try "apropos vim"
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> in konsole
[05:53] <p0windah> FroG] MtL[: if you are a dreamweaver/visual basic kind of coder, then no. vim isn tfor you
[05:53] <MadpilotPPC> FroG] MtL[, try Bluefish or Screem, if you want something a little less 1980s than vim...
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:53] <sn0wman> how about "spunky swallow" for the first post-dapper release
[05:53] <jmg> anyone here use hostap drivers?
[05:53] <FroG] MtL[> i'm a bloc note coder
[05:53] <FroG] MtL[> but ...
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> FroG] MtL[, if you want something nice, try nVu
[05:53] <seethru> nomasteryoda: yeah, thats what I use atm too, was hoping someone had successfully sent songs to their ipod using amaroK hehe, mine sends and gets to 99% and then crashes :/
[05:53] <FroG] MtL[> something nice ?
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> FroG] MtL[, yes
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> nvu
[05:54] <gigaclon> correction, if you are a dreamweaver/visual basic kind of coder, you are not a coder
[05:54] <p0windah> heh
[05:54] <p0windah> its fun to mock people ... :)
[05:54] <MadpilotPPC> FroG] MtL[, Nvu is a WYSIWYG HTML editor; Bluefish or Screem are coding apps
[05:54] <FroG] MtL[> actually i used to code on windows on phpEdit ... an old version of the soft and it really highlight well syntax and switch between html syntax and php syntax ...
[05:54] <JDahl> gigaclon, that's true... real coders have a USB CTRL footpedal for emacs
[05:55] <p0windah> FroG] MtL[: vim has colored highlighting and lots of other uber advanced features
[05:55] <p0windah> FroG] MtL[: whatever your phpedit did, it does more
[05:55] <FroG] MtL[> lol
[05:55] <FroG] MtL[> actually i'm not so sure ... :d
[05:55] <FroG] MtL[> lol
[05:55] <p0windah> he thinks I'm joking...
[05:56] <FroG] MtL[> i've never found another windows software which switch between syntax like phpEdit
[05:56] <FroG] MtL[> :d
[05:56] <p0windah> that can turn highlighting on and off ?
[05:57] <Imperanon> is there any kind of hardware that works with ardour that is along the same lines as the digi002R for protools
[05:57] <delltony> question where can one get mozilla-firefox mplayer for breezy? and is there an updated sources.list that someone could post please
[05:57] <zeus1_> whens breezy final coming
[05:58] <FroG] MtL[> ok ... i will try bluefish :)
[05:58] <FroG] MtL[> lol
[05:58] <p0windah> see /topic
[05:58] <FroG] MtL[> sorry p0windah
[05:58] <zeus1_> whats colony 5
[05:58] <FroG] MtL[> i don't say u're wrong
[05:58] <zeus1_> wtfs colony 5...like some british colonies from 1700s?
[05:58] <tritium> a preview release
[05:59] <gigaclon> zeus1_, oct 15 for breezy
[05:59] <zeus1_> oh wtf...last month some1 told me that breezy final was coming OCT 6
[05:59] <tritium> it's the 13th ;)
[05:59] <p0windah> zeus1_: you can install breezy now if you like and help submit bugs
[05:59] <zeus1_> ya but it could F up my hard drive because its experimental
[06:00] <tritium> zeus1_, it's not that unstable
[06:00] <p0windah> zeus1_: not quite, but if you want to wait thats cool
[06:00] <jmg> hey guys i have an issue with wireless
[06:00] <zeus1_> and i read a post on ubuntu forums where he upgraded the linux kernal and came back and windows xp was gone
[06:00] <tristanmike> what's a broken symbolic link?
[06:00] <jmg> Warning: Driver for device eth2 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension,
[06:00] <jmg> but has been compiled with version 17, therefore some driver features
[06:00] <jmg> may not be available...
[06:00] <tritium> zeus1_, that would be impossible
[06:01] <p0windah> zeus1_: well if you believe all the weird and implausible crap you read on the 'net...
[06:01] <p0windah> zeus1_: when I installed it, I won a million USD
[06:01] <p0windah> beat that..
[06:01] <gigaclon> zeus1_, it might have messed with grub
[06:01] <webdwarf> it could happen because after upgrading a kernel with apt, it runs update-grub..?
[06:01] <Crinkle_P> Im Here At Your Service
[06:02] <tritium> webdwarf, that doesn't delete windows
[06:02] <zeus1_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70947&highlight=grub
[06:02] <zeus1_> there it is
[06:02] <webdwarf> well by windows being "gone" its probably more likely that its grub entry was gone
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[06:03] <zeus1_> lol
[06:03] <p0windah> those craazy aussies
[06:03] <webdwarf> oi :P
[06:03] <p0windah> I'm aussie
[06:03] <zeus1_> I have just witnessed....a typical IRC moment...anyway back to the topic
[06:03] <Imperanon> you should be able to fix grub with a knoppix cd. or slightly more annoying, an ubuntu livecd
[06:03] <Imperanon> and then get windows back
[06:03] <zeus1_> ya but I dont want the problem in the first place
[06:03] <tritium> zeus1_, windows being removed from the grub menu doesn't mean that it's gone
[06:04] <p0windah> Imperanon: unfortunately its not something your average computer user can do though
[06:04] <zeus1_> tritium he said he tried to manually add windows xp to the list and it wouldnt load
[06:04] <cafuego_> Aussies aren't the problem, Comindico users are.
[06:04] <cafuego_> Invariably fuckwits.
[06:04] <gigaclon> Comindico?
[06:04] <webdwarf> ..aussie ISP
[06:04] <p0windah> how about we just agree everyone outside of melbourne are retarded ?
[06:05] <webdwarf> nar
[06:05] <webdwarf> outside of brisbane
[06:05] <webdwarf> :)
[06:05] <zeus1_> i live in Usa
[06:05] <p0windah> haha
[06:05] <p0windah> good ol brisvegas
[06:05] <zeus1_> so i is b offended by dat mista
[06:05] <cafuego_> p0windah: Yeah, fair enough.  do note that Frankston and Deer Park aren't *in* Melbourne ;-)
[06:05] <webdwarf> although there are alot of retards here aswell..
[06:05] <p0windah> frankston is not in vistoria, its in the water
[06:05] <Imperanon> well you can try restoring the master boot record, i think like sudo install-mbr /dev/hda
[06:06] <zeus1_> so yea I was gonna upgrade to breezy and then i saw that thread and now im mother-effing scared to upgrade
[06:06] <zeus1_> not to mention i have no internet in ubuntu because i have a wireless
[06:06] <webdwarf> I would never dual boot two OS's on the same hard drive. Just too much can go wrong, esspecially where windows is involved
[06:06] <zeus1_> no see
[06:06] <p0windah> zeus1_: ofcourse, even waiting for breezy final wont ensure that kind of thing wont happen
[06:06] <tritium> zeus1_, I have wireless and ubuntu.  it doesn't follow that you can't have internet if you have wireless
[06:06] <webdwarf> breezy has been awesome for me so far.. works alot better on my laptop than previously
[06:06] <zeus1_> webdwarf I have windows on the master HD and ubuntu on another slave drive
[06:06] <webdwarf> and I have wireless, working well
[06:07] <cafuego_> doing
[06:07] <zeus1_> tritium how the heezie do i set up wireless...ubuntu wont let me this is bull-sheeaht
[06:07] <webdwarf> zeus1_: with grub on the master hdd?
[06:07] <JDahl> zeus1_, There is a Windows section commented out in Grub's menu.lst, which you can just uncomment
[06:07] <Imperanon> ive had problems with ubuntu and windows when windows isnt the first hard drive. man the ubuntu install would never get that right and i always had to fix everything
[06:07] <zeus1_> webdwarf no its on the MBR
[06:08] <mylastmorning> anyone know how to setup apollon?
[06:09] <gigaclon> Power Management is completey borked for me
[06:09] <tritium> zeus1_, which chipset do you have?  Also, please speak Enlish
[06:09] <tritium> English even
[06:09] <Imperanon> anyways there's no reason upgrading your kernel would mess with your partition tables. so either windows is still there, or that guy is a liar, or he is just too stupid and fucked shit up and thinks some unrelated thing did it
[06:09] <jrr> are the linux-tree source packages the same as the kernel.org tarballs?
[06:09] <Imperanon> oops, sorry about the language. i keep forgetting
[06:10] <webdwarf> zeus1_: I would have linux on the master, and windows on the secondary, and then just unplug the linux drive when u want to reinstall windows, so that it doesnt mess with the MBR. Then after installing,  put the linux drive back and just make sure ur grub conf has an option to boot the other drive
[06:10] <gigaclon> none of the power management stuff in the screen saver menu work, any ideas?
[06:10] <webdwarf> zeus1_: I have never put that theory into practice tho, so I dont know how well it would work. I just dont like dual booting at all.
[06:10] <JDahl> Imperanon, what's your point? Currently Grub removes the Windows section after a kernel upgrade
[06:10] <zeus1_> tritium idk
[06:11] <zeus1_> webdwarf ya its ight...but the thing is linux is so damn hard to use and is so hard to work with compatability wise i have to boot into windows most of the time  to do what i want
[06:11] <p0windah> grubs nice and all, but its not something your average computer user could even attempt to modify
[06:11] <cafuego_> JDahl: Yeah, it's a feature. Took me a while to convice them to make it do that ;-)
[06:11] <webdwarf> zeus1_: I used to think that way too.. but now the only time I use windows is when im fixing computers for work
[06:11] <JDahl> cafuego_, :)
[06:12] <kevogod> Is there any way to add a Google searchbar to Epiphany?
[06:12] <Imperanon> my point is windows xp isnt gone and it's pretty trivial to recover. i mean it's practically the one thing the windows recovery console on an xp cd lets you do
[06:12] <cafuego_> tritium: My grub removed it a few weeks ago.
[06:12] <zeus1_> webdwarf i mean I cant even play games on linux which is like really bad because i play a lot of games
[06:12] <tritium> cafuego_, did you file a bug?
[06:13] <jrr> i'm tiring of apt upgrade all these xorg drivers i don't use.
[06:13] <webdwarf> zeus1_: I see.. I only play q3 and ut2004, which both have a linux release, I have managed to get a few games like Commandos 2 working in Cedega, however I havent been able to get any steam based games working yet.
[06:13] <zeus1_> ya see most of the games i play are steam based...also BF2, and jedi outcast
[06:13] <Myrtti> Coffee!
[06:13] <Imperanon> i mean, if you cant figure out how to fix your boot record or configure your boot loader, why are you beta testing a linux os anyways. im all about ease of use and getting new people aboard, but let's have some perspective
[06:14] <gigaclon> most of the games I play are console-based
[06:14] <mylastmorning> anyone use apollon
[06:14] <mylastmorning> ?
[06:14] <zeus1_> screw consoles...pc games are way better
[06:14] <webdwarf> zeus1_: for me, games are just something to do to clear my mind n stuff.. I have more fun messing with linux etc.
[06:14] <tautologico> what's the right venue for asking about packages? I fear the haskell-related (programming language) packages in ubuntu are too outdated
[06:14] <webdwarf> and yeah, consoles suck
[06:15] <vbgunz> dude you obvisouly didn't play the new Linux connect four :P
[06:15] <vbgunz> that is going for game of the year... right next to gears of war
[06:15] <zeus1_> hah
[06:15] <MadpilotPPC> hey, Ubuntu ships with Solitaire and Minesweeper - what other games are there? ;)
[06:15] <Imperanon> there are some pretty sweet console games but i prefer all my games and stuff being in one spot. i mean i have to get out of my chair and go over to the tv. what a pain
[06:15] <zeus1_> i want to b able to play half life 2 on linux
[06:15] <webdwarf> ppracer is the best game
[06:15] <kevogod> Gnometris.
[06:15] <gigaclon> one things about consoles, you know the games are going to work
[06:16] <webdwarf> zeus1_: I wouldn't mind doing that too.. I know when the next one is released I will be installing windows on some old hard drive just to play it
[06:16] <Myrtti> MadpilotPPC: Same Gnome \o/ ;-)
[06:16] <gigaclon> well i am in my chair typing on IRC with a controller in my lap
[06:16] <MadpilotPPC> kevogod, right, I forgot about the Tetris clone; that's the Holy Trinity of Games, right there...
[06:16] <vbgunz> Half-Life 2 was nothing at all like I expected it to be... I rate that game 4/10
[06:16] <Imperanon> mostly i play ut2k4
[06:16] <vbgunz> HL1 was 9 and three quarters out of 10...
[06:16] <webdwarf> for me, hl2 was the best single player game ive ever played
[06:17] <webdwarf> however I dont like its multiplayer
[06:17] <zeus1_> vbguns wow wtf....hl2 was AWESOME
[06:17] <webdwarf> q3 and ut2004 are much better I think
[06:17] <Myrtti> If I weren't FPS handicapped, I'd love NOLF's
[06:17] <durt> nexuiz is the best
[06:17] <zeus1_> q3 is good...but q4 comes out like next week
[06:17] <tritium> so...anyone want to talk about ubuntu-related stuff...?
[06:17] <zeus1_> quake 4 went gold its coming 10/18
[06:17] <Imperanon> i play ut2k4 in ubuntu
[06:17] <Myrtti> good one, tritium
[06:17] <kevogod> Tetris is probably the single greatest game of all time.
[06:17] <gigaclon> hahaha
[06:17] <webdwarf> q4 wont run on my laptop :( altho neither does ut2004
[06:17] <gigaclon> I play Puzzle Pirates In Ubuntu
[06:18] <tritium> hi Myrtti :)
[06:18] <shekhar> can someone help me with a weird recurring problem?
[06:18] <gigaclon> ok
[06:18] <gigaclon> shoot
[06:18] <tritium> shekhar, can you tell us what it is?
[06:18] <shekhar> tritium:  same one i presented you yesterday :)
[06:18] <webdwarf> I find q3 and ut2004 run MUCH MUCH better on linux than they do on the same hardware with windows..
[06:18] <jrr> shekhar: people prefer if you don't ask to ask, for future IRC reference
[06:18] <Myrtti> gigaclon: url, please?
[06:18] <vbgunz> zeus1_: I preored the platinum edition of HL2... trust me, I played a bunch of games and did not like it as much as the first... it was not all to great and in fact doom3 if not for the characters limited movement would have in my opinion easily outbeat HL2 fro my game of the year
[06:18] <shagg> howdy all, got a font question for somebody who's game.
[06:18] <T3ddyG> hey... dumb question
[06:18] <tritium> shekhar, please remind me.  There are too many issues to remember each one individually
[06:18] <shekhar> jrr:  sorry, sometime i never get a response if i shoot first :)
[06:19] <T3ddyG> how do i tell what my usb thumbdrive is named when i plug it in from a command prompt?
[06:19] <nomasteryoda|w> tritium, oh infinite minded one
[06:19] <BlurredWe> dmesg should have something at the end
[06:19] <jrr> webdwarf: i don't think that's because linux is inherently faster, but the way most people have their windowses configured
[06:19] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[06:19] <kevogod> Is there any way to add a Google searchbar to Epiphany?
[06:19] <MadpilotPPC> shagg, just ask it, someone will answer
[06:19] <BlurredWe> try sda
[06:19] <shekhar> tritium:  the issue when i logout from gnome that it saves my session when i ask it to restart or shut down, and doesn't do anything else
[06:19] <Imperanon> fdisk -l
[06:19] <tritium> nomasteryoda|w, heh
[06:19] <shagg> is there a way to install truetype fonts so that apps like the GIMP can pick 'em up?
[06:19] <tritium> shekhar, ah, I remember now.
[06:19] <MadpilotPPC> shagg, yes
[06:19] <shekhar> tritium:  i have done everything, reinstalled metacity, tried every possible sessions setting, no luck
[06:19] <MadpilotPPC> !tell shagg about fonts
[06:20] <webdwarf> jrr: even on a nlite'd fresh install of windows, with all unnessecery services stopped. Why do you think that UT2003 (and maybe other versions) demo cd's were based on a gentoo live cd
[06:20] <TiMiDo> !tell shagg about fonts
[06:20] <gigaclon> !tell gigaclon about fonts
[06:20] <zeus1_> vbgunz....i just need u...to tell me how to make wireless internet work on LINUX (tm) SYSTEMS AND DISTROBUTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:20] <tritium> zeus1_, which chipset please?
[06:20] <p0windah> zeus1_: shush
[06:20] <Myrtti> STOP yelling for PETE's sake
[06:20] <tristanmike> zeus1_, no need for shouting
[06:21] <shekhar> does anyone know how to configure openafs in ubuntu and can guide me a bit?
[06:21] <T3ddyG> i'm not sure if any of those responses were directed at me...?
[06:21] <Myrtti> me, I'm -->
[06:21] <T3ddyG> i need to copy a file to my usb thumbdrive through command prompt, and i dont know where to direct the file transfer... /media/?  how can i tell what my usb drive is?
[06:21] <vbgunz> zeus1_: I have a Zonet wireless card with a DLink router. On Hoary not much support was available *but* I found the answer on Ubuntu Wiki. The Breezy seemed to have the support for it all right out of the box...
[06:21] <zeus1_> tritium...umm athlon something
[06:22] <tritium> zeus1_, no, your wireless chipset
[06:22] <zeus1_> vbgunz YA I know i was waiting for BREEZY FINAL to install for wireless to be working
[06:22] <zeus1_> and i thought that BREEZY was coming out THIS WEEK for the final VERSION
[06:22] <vbgunz> zeus1_: Breezy got it right
[06:22] <tritium> zeus1_, the 13th
[06:22] <Determinist> good morning, folks
[06:22] <shagg> MadpilotPPC - thanks!
[06:22] <vbgunz> zeus1_: I think Breezy is out isn't it?
[06:22] <zeus1_> i mean breezy final
[06:22] <MadpilotPPC> shagg, np
[06:22] <tritium> no, vbgunz
[06:22] <vbgunz> or is Breezy not final yet>?
[06:22] <zeus1_> bugless breezy
[06:22] <Determinist> vbgunz: not final yet
[06:23] <vbgunz> oh
[06:23] <vbgunz> man I thought it was
[06:23] <p0windah> zeus1_: if you dont endear yourself to ppl, they're not gonna help you pal
[06:23] <TiMiDo> nope vbgunz on october it will be
[06:23] <jrr> webdwarf: because there aren't windows livecds
[06:23] <TiMiDo> october 14 i believed
[06:23] <tritium> 13th
[06:23] <CaptinSlap> anyone else here running a ATI card WITH the control panel installed?
[06:24] <webdwarf> T3ddyG: its probably sda1 ? (unless u have scsi/sata hdd's)
[06:24] <T3ddyG> webdwarf: i have two ata hard drives and two ata dvd drives
[06:24] <webdwarf> jrr: good answer :P I still find that it has run much nicer in my experience
[06:24] <vbgunz> thanks, I thought it was final, I ordered some CDs from shipit about a week ago and it said Breezy will ship... My last order for Hoary returned them two weeks laters so  i thought it was done... hehe
[06:24] <webdwarf> T3ddyG: if the usb drive has been mounted, type "mount" and u will see everything that has been mounted and where
[06:25] <T3ddyG> i don't know how to mount anything lol... all i did was pop it in, and it said "usb1-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4"
[06:25] <CaptinSlap> no one is running an ATI card with the control panel installed?
[06:26] <gigaclon> none of the power management stuff in the screen saver menu work, any ideas?
[06:26] <Imperanon> is there some special way you have to configure proftpd to get it to work behind a router? i have the router forwarding the correct ports. within my network i can connect to the ftp fine. outside my network i can log in but it fails to get a directory list
[06:26] <p0windah> Imperanon: use pasv in your ftp client
[06:26] <Imperanon> tried it
[06:26] <jrr> i like the graphical disks manager, but it seems unable to make stuff mount upon login - i guess i'll use fstab and .login
[06:26] <zeus1_> how do u find out wat chip set  U have
[06:27] <jrr> zeus1_: what kind of computer do you have?
[06:27] <vbgunz> I have a general question. When I update the Kernel I am told to reboot... It is not absolutely vital or critical that I reboot right away is it?
[06:27] <jrr> vbgunz: nope
[06:27] <tritium> zeus1_, dmesg can help
[06:28] <jrr> or lspci
[06:28] <kevogod> vbgunz, Unless you are in the government.
[06:28] <p0windah> vbgunz: not critical, but if strange things start happening, you know whats causing them
[06:28] <vbgunz> thanks, my general questioning is over :P
[06:28] <vbgunz> thansk!
[06:28] <jrr> p0windah: how would funny stuff start happening?
[06:28] <Rayeh> has anyone else had trouble recently after upgrading in breezy, where in xine/mplayer the xv output mode just gives a blue screen?
[06:29] <T3ddyG> webdwarf: i don't know how to mount anything lol... all i did was pop it in, and it said "usb1-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4"
[06:31] <zeus1_> tritium im not on linux atm..otherwise i wouldnt be on irc because i have no wireless intenet connection
[06:31] <zeus1_> jrr its a pc...built from new egg
[06:31] <T3ddyG> cant i just issue a command in command prompt that displays connected usb devices? :(
[06:31] <T3ddyG> bah
[06:32] <tritium> T3ddyG, like lsusb?
[06:32] <T3ddyG> will that show me the name of my thumbdrive so i can copy a file to it?
[06:32] <tritium> no
[06:32] <CaptinSlap> Can someone give me a hand with my ATI card? I have installed the drivers they are all there and working fine, but my control can not detect the card name, bios version or chip type
[06:32] <tritium> T3ddyG, is it mounted?
[06:32] <T3ddyG> how do i know if it is mounted?
[06:32] <T3ddyG> i just plugged it in
[06:32] <jrr> zeus1_: howbout the motherboard?
[06:33] <scribbles> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[06:33] <scribbles>  <---is there a package for the C compiler? I don't know what its called
[06:33] <tritium> T3ddyG, does it show up on your desktop?  Is it listed in the output from "mount"
[06:33] <tritium> scribbles, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:33] <Imperanon> does a mounted usb drive show up in like places/computer in gnome
[06:33] <T3ddyG> i dont have gui access because X wont load.... i'm still stuck with that damn faulty udev update from a week ago
[06:33] <zeus1_> idk jrr
[06:33] <jrr> zeus1_: or were you talking about the wireless
[06:34] <T3ddyG> i need to do it from recovery
[06:34] <jrr> zeus1_: if you're in windows, you can likely find all you need in the device manager (right click on my computer, properties, hardware, device manager)
[06:34] <T3ddyG> when i plug it into the computer though, i get the following message in the command prompt: usb1-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4
[06:34] <tritium> T3ddyG, have you run "sudo apt-get install -f", and possibly also "sudo dpkg --configure --pending"?
[06:34] <scribbles> thx tritium
[06:35] <T3ddyG> i'm trying to tritium.. but the network card doesn't seem to let me connect to the internet
[06:35] <din> gn
[06:35] <tritium> don't worry about the internet right now, T3ddyG
[06:35] <T3ddyG> tritium... can you just read the thread i made?
[06:36] <T3ddyG> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71927
[06:36] <kevogod> How informative.
[06:36] <kevogod> Sorry, wrong channel.
[06:36] <T3ddyG> the problem is i need the internet to work so i can fix the udev problem
[06:37] <benkong2> hey folks how do I change or reduce the size of fonts in a command line screen. I have an ubuntu server and no x-windows but my console font is too large.
[06:37] <jrr> what would I miss out on if I use a kernel.org kernel instead of an ubuntu-patched one?
[06:37] <zeus1_> http://linuxcrash.ytmnd.com/       omgwtfbbq
[06:37] <tritium> T3ddyG, why do you think that?
[06:37] <Imperanon> T3ddyG, type sudo -fdisk -l    and then if you see anything like /dev/sda1 or something that looks like it will be your usb drive, make a dir somewhere like    sudo mkdir /media/usb    then go like sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb
[06:38] <T3ddyG> the udev got messed up after a updating... everyone on the forums fixed theirs by running sudo apt-get update.  I can't run that because my comp doesnt let me have internet access in recovery mode for some reason
[06:38] <CaptinSlap> Can someone give me a hand with my ATI card? I have installed the drivers they are all there and working fine, but my control can not detect the card name, bios version or chip type
[06:38] <jmg> anyone here use hostap drivers? when i load i get not one but two ether devices
[06:38] <CaptinSlap> *panel
[06:39] <Absenth> Hmmmm.....  upgrade the vmware install to breezy, or wait another two weeks.....  :)
[06:39] <paulproteus> zeus1_: lol :)
[06:40] <dreamwave> HrdwrBoB, ah.  thanks
[06:40] <Rayeh> no one has heard of any problems with using xv under breezy with an nvidia card? When I try to play any video all I get is a blue screen where the video should be
[06:40] <T3ddyG> i'll brb i'm going to try the usb thing
[06:40] <dazzed> whats the command for evolution in breezy...its not the same as warty???
[06:40] <Rayeh> other video output types work, but the performance is sub-par
[06:40] <tritium> Rayeh, did you search bugzilla?
[06:41] <Rayeh> i've been looking through ubuntu forums and the wiki
[06:41] <Rayeh> what is the url for the bugzilla?
[06:41] <tritium> bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[06:41] <Rayeh> should have been obvious, thanks
[06:41] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  When I run apt-get, all I get is "Segmentation faultsts... 0%."  Any ideas as to why that would happen?
[06:41] <shekhar> does anyone know how i can specify a location in the new nautilus? it doesn't have a text-editable path in the navigation toolbar anymore with breezy...
[06:42] <jrr> ctrl l i think
[06:42] <SogniX> does anyone know why I keep getting a permission denied after moving a file to the ubuntu box (via samba)? interestingly the file gets copied anyway. but lots of permission denied warnings.
[06:42] <ficusplanet> shekhar, Ctrl+L or set it to always visible in the preferences.
[06:42] <vbgunz> will an Ubuntu certification program ever be available?
[06:42] <redson> Skid, try Ctrl+L
[06:42] <jrr> SogniX: it's probably trying to reproduce the permissions (chmod(
[06:42] <tritium> vbgunz, it is being discussed
[06:42] <redson> shekhar, , try Ctrl+L
[06:43] <redson> shekhar, lower case l
[06:43] <SogniX> hmm
[06:43] <zeus1_> hah paulproteus u thought that was funny chek this out http://leeroooooyjenkinsremix.ytmnd.com/
[06:43] <shekhar> ficusplanet redson thanks, where is it in the prefs so i can keep it on?
[06:43] <tritium> hi thoreauputic
[06:43] <vbgunz> tritium: cool, I hope so...
[06:44] <thoreauputic> hi tritium :)
[06:45] <ficusplanet> shekhar, apps>>nautilus>>preferences>>always_use_location_entry in gconf_editor
[06:45] <thoreauputic> what are the advantages, if any, of using the framebuffer ? I confess this is something I don't understand...
[06:45] <pc22> how do i install money2005 using wine in ubuntu?
[06:46] <dazzed> pc22: in a terminal
[06:46] <shekhar> ficusplanet:  cheers, i got it :)
[06:46] <dazzed> wine -help for some commands
[06:47] <mahangu> lk.archive.ubuntu.com <- a seperate arch for sri lanka? cool
[06:47] <pc22> dazzed, can y guide me?
[06:49] <cafuego_> arrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:49] <pc22> dazzed, can you guide me?
[06:49] <Rayeh> tritium, I couldn't find anything relating to my problem on bugzilla, but I have a feeling it has to do with xorg, or something that changed in it
[06:49] <tritium> sorry, cafuego_
[06:49] <Rayeh> because it happens across players, in xine and mplayer
[06:50] <tritium> Rayeh, perhaps
[06:51] <cafuego_> tritium: it seems like it minds it less than coffee (other laptop, dead)
[06:52] <tritium> glad it's not dead
[06:53] <tautologico> is there any web interface for ubuntu repositories?
[06:53] <thoreauputic> tautologico: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:54] <tautologico> thoreauputic, thanks
[06:54] <vbgunz> what is the Ubuntu or Linux mp3 file? popular audio formats?
[06:54] <thoreauputic> tautologico: np :)
[06:54] <misterdiff> hi all
[06:54] <DjKritical> I would like to upgrade to breezy... but I've only got one partition and it's used 140/200gigs... I don't really wanna loose my data... anyone know the smartest way to do this?
[06:54] <misterdiff> i'm having trouble repartitioning my drive
[06:55] <JDahl> vbgunz, mp3 and ogg
[06:55] <vbgunz> so mp3 does play out of the box is my question?
[06:55] <JDahl> vbgunz, no
[06:55] <thoreauputic> !tell DjKritical about upgrade2breezy
[06:55] <misterdiff> the repartition wizard crashes everytime i try to launch it
[06:55] <vbgunz> JDahl: out of the box what does Ubuntu support?
[06:55] <tritium> !tell vbgunz about mp3
[06:55] <mahangu> vbgunz, xmms plays mp3 out of the box
[06:55] <DjKritical> Thanks thoreauputic
[06:55] <SogniX> jrr: incase it is chmodding after the files are moved when I get the permission denied, where do I fix that?
[06:55] <tritium> DjKritical, it's also in the topic
[06:56] <thoreauputic> DjKritical: no worries :)
[06:56] <JDahl> vbgunz, ogg, but it's easy to get mp3 support by installing gstreamer0.8-xxx
[06:56] <vbgunz> my friend is using protools and is sending me some beats... I am using Ubuntu out of the box and don't wish to use backports... Since he can convert his music to many formats, which is the format I'll be able to listen to out of the box?
[06:56] <DjKritical> tritium, oh.. I just idle here non-stop... if only ubuntu wern't so reliable I might rejoin and view the topic more often! =)
[06:56] <shekhar> could someone tell me how to mount my partition so that it shows up as a separate drive?
[06:56] <tritium> DjKritical, :)
[06:56] <JDahl> vbgunz, you dont need backports, but I think you need restricted for mp3
[06:56] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: ogg would be best
[06:57] <vbgunz> JDahl: yeah, sorry, I mean, I don't wish to use unsupported or restricted formats so ogg is best?
[06:57] <DjKritical> wow... I've never upgraded before.. it's so easy!...
[06:58] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: cool, I'll tell him to convert to ogg
[06:58] <regeya> ogg == great
[06:58] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: ogg vorbis is Free as in speech :)
[06:58] <thoreauputic> it's also good quality...
[06:58] <regeya> if they ever get their quantization error problems fixed, it'll be > *
[06:58] <JDahl> vbgunz, I would think so, but restricted is not of lesser quality than the ordinary repository... it's just separated for legal reasons
[06:59] <tritium> regeya, which are you referring to?
[06:59] <regeya> ogg, actually, tritium.  causes the high-end to sound a little brighter than it should (not that that'
[06:59] <vbgunz> JDahl: I need to do some more reading though I remember I opened up some links in my apt file and Ubuntu started to act funny... Now I just wish to keep Ubuntu as clean and as supported as posible
[06:59] <regeya> s a big deal for my now older ears)
[07:00] <tritium> quantization errors are unavoidable
[07:00] <thoreauputic> 1280x1024 is pushing it on this 17" monitor methinks
[07:01] <geneo93> yes it is
[07:01] <JDahl> vbgunz, that's a good idea.. stick with regular repositories and you wont break anything
[07:01] <tautologico> basic question: how do I add multiverse? when I look in synaptic there is only universe
[07:01] <synackuator> crt?
[07:01] <thoreauputic> yeah crt
[07:01] <synackuator> o i c
[07:01] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: how do you do that? make your name say something like your resolution?
[07:01] <thoreauputic> it's OK but well, everything is a *bit* small
[07:01] <thoreauputic> vbgunz:  /me says something
[07:02] <dmlinux> hey guys, how do i make a file executable? Chmod 777? in breezy badger
[07:02] <synackuator> 1600x1200 is such a happy resolution for gnome / fluxbox
[07:02] <regeya> my current 17" monitor will do 1024x768 happily, but isn't happy for too long at higher...thought I could push this e70 to 1152x864 but either that's pushing it too hard or I have wonky settings
[07:02] <JDahl> dmlinux, man chmod
[07:02] <vbgunz> ok I got it
[07:02] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: thanks ;)
[07:02] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: so we see :D
[07:03] <SogniX> how can I install gnome 2.12? I don't see it in Synaptic...
[07:03] <thoreauputic> SogniX: upgrade to breezy
[07:03] <avalost> you can always compile it yourself..
[07:03] <SogniX> but... that's still in pre-release stage... didn't want to do that until it's officially out
[07:04] <tritium> SogniX, we're two days from a preview release
[07:04] <tritium> it's in pretty good shape
[07:04] <thoreauputic> SogniX: well, it will be out on Oct 13
[07:04] <avalost> SogniX, it's days away from release and mostly stable
[07:04] <avalost> you'll have no problems upgrading
[07:04] <geneo93> well no gnome 2.12 for you then
[07:04] <grndslm> 8 days to be exact
[07:04] <grndslm> definitely time to upgrade
[07:04] <SogniX> heh
[07:04] <grndslm> everything works soo much better for me, like amarok, xmms, and gnomebaker works better than it did
[07:05] <grndslm> stuff is really movin' along well for the open source world
[07:05] <durt> why do you use both amarok and xmms?
[07:05] <grndslm> i was just trying them out
[07:05] <durt> ok
[07:05] <grndslm> i could never get them to work with my soundcard before
[07:05] <grndslm> ...only totem-xine and rhythymbox
[07:05] <synackuator> has anyone seen that bob2 character recently?
[07:05] <vbgunz> I have one more general question, I once asked and believe I got the answer but failed to follow up on it... Is it possible to download the entire Ubuntu wiki locally? I have word from my last home owners association meeting that the internet service will be shut off soon... I need that wiki, any help?
[07:05] <thoreauputic> synackuator: sure - he's around
[07:06] <avalost> vbgunz, yes it's possible but pointless as it's ever-evolving
[07:06] <dmlinux> hey guys, how do i make a file executable? Chmod 777? in breezy badger
[07:06] <grndslm> anybody wanna give me a hint how to disable that "popup" on amarok that shows artist name & track title??
[07:06] <avalost> dmlinux, x
[07:06] <thoreauputic> synackuator: he's in most days - not  always for long
[07:06] <synackuator> thoreauputic: is the bob2 that's always in here known as literally bob2?
[07:06] <tritium> dmlinux, as you were told before, man chmod for details
[07:06] <Master-Tricky> Is there a way to change the permissions of all of the files in multiple folders at once?
[07:06] <avalost> chmod a+x or just x
[07:06] <vbgunz> avalost: but something even if it is old is better than nothing :)
[07:06] <memin> Hello how can I activate mo modem?
[07:07] <thoreauputic> synackuator: that's been his nick for a long time - his real name is Rob IIRC
[07:07] <avalost> vbgunz, it'll eat up enormous amounts of space, take forever to download all while it's at your fingertips via the net
[07:07] <dmlinux> tritium i was asking for the command , not a bible to read.,
[07:07] <tritium> dmlinux, it's a short manpage
[07:07] <avalost> dmlinux, you'll get far with that attitude
[07:07] <tritium> And if you don't know chmod, you might not be ready to run a development release, no offense
[07:07] <dmlinux> the man does nothing since im a noob to linux and i dont understand half of it
[07:07] <memin> Hello how can I activate my modem?
[07:08] <avalost> yeah, being a n00b and needing help it's a great idea to spout twitty retorts at people who are trying to help you
[07:08] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: that's normal - you have to read it a few time to get it - or google for some newbie CLI howtos
[07:08] <bob2> synackuator: ?
[07:08] <grndslm> anybody wanna give me a hint how to disable that "popup" on amarok that shows artist name & track title??
[07:08] <dmlinux> aye, x didnt work hmm
[07:08] <vbgunz> avalost: the internet service is going to be cut off... I don't live in a regular home community *but* instead a resort like community. Our internet service is dictated to us and we have no freedom of choice... We're fighting it and winning *but* part of the battle requires we lose current service... I will have no internet access but would like to be able to browse the wiki if possible, any help is appreciated
[07:08] <chavo> dmlinux, +x
[07:09] <thoreauputic> dmlinux:  http://tuxfiles.org is a good starting point
[07:09] <synackuator> bob2: w00t you're here
[07:09] <dmlinux> chmod x /home/mouse , it said operation not permitted
[07:09] <geneo93> grndslm:  look at conf
[07:09] <chavo> you guys are starting to sound like #debian
[07:09] <chavo> dmlinux, +x
[07:09] <avalost> vbgunz, there are progs to mirror sites.. use synaptic and search mirror
[07:09] <dmlinux> tried chmod +x as well
[07:09] <chavo> like I said
[07:09] <synackuator> bob2: do you recall giving help on fluxbox a while back?
[07:09] <chavo> well do you own the file?
[07:09] <avalost> dmlinux, you might wanna try it with root priveliges
[07:09] <oxez> is the update notifier running with any 'cron' services? I personnaly do not use them and there is 3 running atm
[07:10] <dmlinux> sudo?
[07:10] <bob2> synackuator: no, sorry
[07:10] <avalost> yes
[07:10] <negativecreep> Hi all
[07:10] <negativecreep> I need some help regarding permissions in ubuntu
[07:10] <tautologico> how's the process of debian packages going to ubuntu repositories?
[07:10] <dmlinux> i think that worked
[07:11] <dmlinux> Thank toy avalost and chavo and thoreauputic for your help
[07:11] <bob2> tautologico: generally things come from sid to ubuntu automatically
[07:11] <dmlinux> you**
[07:11] <synackuator> bob2: blast.  do you know of any really good howto fluxbox links?  i think I got it from you before but I lost it.
[07:11] <SogniX> is there a way to upgrade to the latest ubuntu - without burning a CD?
[07:11] <dmlinux> brb restarting X
[07:11] <chavo> dmlinux, anytime
[07:11] <bob2> synackuator: to do what?
[07:11] <chavo> SogniX, of course
[07:11] <bob2> SogniX: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[07:11] <thoreauputic> SogniX: see the bit about upgrading in the /topic
[07:11] <negativecreep> SogniX, just change hoary to breezy in your sources.list
[07:12] <negativecreep> do a apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[07:12] <negativecreep> and you are good to go
[07:12] <vbgunz> peace fellas, need to watch killbill2 with the wifey. have fun!
[07:12] <chavo> you might want to wait till final though, on the 13th
[07:12] <thoreauputic> negativecreep: dist-upgrade actually
[07:12] <negativecreep> SogniX, mind one thing that the process might screw your xorg.conf. So do take a backup of that.
[07:12] <synackuator> bob2: it was a detailed howto wiki for setting up / troubleshooting fluxbox.  maybe it was someone else though.
[07:12] <SogniX> thanks! :)
[07:13] <SogniX> I'm not too concerned - I'm stuck in a low rez anyway, I doubt it can get worse :p
[07:13] <negativecreep> thoreauputic, i have user zaeem, group popmlt owning /etc/mrtg/mlt.
[07:13] <thoreauputic> synackuator: there are good docs on http://fluxxbox.org
[07:13] <thoreauputic> synackuator: sorry typo - http://fluxbox.org
[07:13] <avalost> synackuator, whats wrong with your flux?
[07:14] <negativecreep> I want that if any user creates any directory or file, then it is created with the same group
[07:14] <synackuator> thoreauputic: yea I guess those will have to do, maybe i'm just picky after seeing this page i'm looking for. :\
[07:15] <avalost> synackuator, whats wrong with your fluxbox?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> synackuator: what's the problem? I run fluxbox - might have an answer
[07:15] <synackuator> avalost: nothing's wrong with it that I know of, I just want a good list of tweaks / tips for making fluxbox better
[07:15] <eXcentra> is there a way to enable ntfs support in the kernel or something?
[07:15] <eXcentra> i've heard about having to enable ntfs support in order to mount an ntfs partition?
[07:15] <oxez> by default it's enabled? if not look in the Device Drivers
[07:15] <avalost> well the fluxbox docs are incomplete, I would recommend things like ROXfiler, fbpaer, gdesklets and the like
[07:16] <avalost> fbdesk etc
[07:16] <Master-Tricky> Is there a way to edit the permissions of files within folders within folders, etc. ? I can only seem to edit files by shift-clicking files in a folder, but this is annoying in my case, because I have multiple folders with a few files in each....If someone could PM/query me that'd be great, because I have to go AFK for a second...
[07:16] <thoreauputic> synackuator: this is quite helpful: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docbook.php
[07:16] <pepsi> ubotu, java
[07:16] <ubotu> java is, like, to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[07:16] <avalost> Master-Tricky, chmod -R
[07:17] <oxez> eXcentra: to mount a ntfs partition: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdx /media/windows (modify to your needs)
[07:18] <eXcentra> whenever i do that, i get an error.
[07:18] <eXcentra> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71832
[07:18] <synackuator> thoreauputic: thanks for the link
[07:18] <avalost> I used to run fluxbox, now i've switched to e17
[07:18] <avalost> ;/
[07:18] <thoreauputic> synackuator: no problem - the tips on the keys file are particularly good
[07:19] <memin> Hello how can I activate my modem?
[07:19] <avalost> thoreauputic, tried e17 yet?
[07:19] <oxez> eXcentra: try http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:20] <deFrysk> oxez, no no no
[07:20] <thoreauputic> avalost: no - I'm happy with fluxbox :) I like the tabs among other things
[07:20] <oxez> deFrysk: why not? lol
[07:20] <deFrysk> !ubuntuguide
[07:20] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[07:20] <deFrysk> oxez, thats why ;)
[07:20] <durt> how do you run the nautilus browser without the desktop icons?
[07:20] <avalost> thoreauputic, you should at least try it, e17 is similar in alot of ways..
[07:20] <oxez> yea but the part about ntfs works, at least it worked for me
[07:21] <avalost> i've used flux religiously for about 3 years now and after using e it's tough to go back
[07:21] <oxez> /etc/fstab still has the same syntax right?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> avalost: I've played with E in the past though - it's nice but I wouldn't want to live there ;)
[07:21] <Master-Tricky> avalost: Thank you :D
[07:21] <avalost> thoreauputic, e17 is not the E of old!
[07:21] <eXcentra> in the device manager, how can i found out if ntfs is enabled by default?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> avalost: no doubt I'll try it some time :)
[07:21] <avalost> thoreauputic, http://gawth.org/code/e17new.jpg
[07:22] <thoreauputic> avlosI've seen the animation thingy - looks impressive
[07:22] <avalost> indeed it is
[07:22] <chavo> durt, do you want to remoce desktop icons, or are you running nautilus outside of gnome?
[07:22] <avalost> and surprisingly fast
[07:22] <chavo> remoce = remove
[07:23] <avalost> speaking of e17 i'm recompiling the entire cvs tree .. not so fun ;/
[07:23] <durt> chavo: thanks , but i got it. its "nautilus --no-desktop"
[07:23] <avalost> takes a while
[07:23] <SogniX> I really dont like e17... I don't like how they're doing the menus now :(
[07:24] <oxez> eXcentra: did you try mount -t ntfs
[07:24] <SogniX> and I'm not too impressed with that dock-like thing
[07:24] <chavo> ok, durt , there's also a gconf-key you  can set
[07:24] <avalost> it took a bit of getting used to now I love it
[07:24] <eXcentra> yes
[07:24] <eXcentra> and many variations of it...
[07:24] <dmlinux> hey guys how do you get to IMwheel configuration editor??
[07:24] <avalost> it's all quite handy once you get the subtle nuances of things
[07:26] <dmlinux> does anyone here know alot about IMwheel? or anything hehe
[07:26] <thoreauputic> durt: nautilus --no-desktop I think
[07:26] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: I'm deeply ignorant ;)
[07:26] <dmlinux> sweet !
[07:27] <dmlinux> thoreauputic, do you know how to open the IMwheel configuration window? cant seem to find it
[07:27] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: I don't even know what it is :)
[07:28] <benplaut> dmlinux: i don't think there is a graphical configuration editor...
[07:28] <dmlinux> hmm
[07:28] <dmlinux> Imwheel @ sourceforge had a pic of one
[07:28] <thoreauputic> durt: doh - just realised you already worked it out - sorry
[07:28] <dmlinux> im so confused, cant get my wheel working on my BT mouse
[07:29] <durt> thoreauputic: thank you anyway, now its bed time for me because i have to wake up in 4 hours
[07:30] <pc22> what will i add to menu.lst to add xp
[07:30] <dmlinux> Does anyone know alot about imwheel?
[07:31] <pc22> what will i add to menu.lst to add xp i lost it when i updated today
[07:31] <negativecreep> qit
[07:31] <negativecreep> quit
[07:32] <dmlinux> http://imwheel.sourceforge.net/ im looking to run that :P
[07:33] <chavo> dmlinux, imwheel, is that even needed anymore?
[07:34] <esac_> pc22: title Windows; root (hd0,0); savedefault; makeactive; chainloader +1
[07:34] <MadpilotPPC> dmlinux, it's in the Ubuntu repos - at least in Hoary, so I assume Breezy too. Ask google for advice, or try "man imwheel"...
[07:34] <esac_> pc22: semicolons = line breaks of course, and replace (hd0,0) with the appropriate drive/partition
[07:34] <dmlinux> chavo, i have a internal bluetooth card and a microsoft intellimouse bluetooth, there is not usb interface to tell linux how to use scroll button
[07:35] <pc22> thanks will try
[07:35] <chavo> aha, does the scroll function work?
[07:36] <dmlinux> chavo, no
[07:36] <dmlinux> chavo, that is my problem , i have no scroll wheel right now
[07:37] <seethru> dmlinux: like stated above, it's in the repo's assuming you have the right ones enabled
[07:37] <dmlinux> seethru i have it installed, just can get to the program for some reason, like on
[07:37] <dmlinux> http://imwheel.sourceforge.net/
[07:37] <dmlinux> xev doesnt pick up my scrolls
[07:38] <MadpilotPPC> dmlinux, what happens when you type "imwheel" in a terminal?
[07:38] <dmlinux> INFO: imwheel started (pid=9374)
[07:38] <dmlinux> but it doesnt do anything, because its nto configured
[07:39] <MadpilotPPC> "man imwheel" then, or "imwheel --help"
[07:39] <dmlinux> im reading that now
[07:39] <chavo> dmlinux, did you reconfigure xorg.conf?
[07:39] <GunJumper> anyone happen to use one handed dvorak keyboard layout?
[07:40] <chavo> does it have -> ZAxisMapping 4 5, in the pointer section?
[07:40] <dmlinux> dm@dmlinux:~$ imwheel -c
[07:40] <dmlinux> INFO: imwheel started (pid=9416)
[07:40] <dmlinux> dm@dmlinux:~$ Configuration terminated by signal 11
[07:41] <dmlinux> sigh
[07:41] <dmlinux> chavo, yes i reconfiguredxorg, and it does have "4 5"
[07:42] <chavo> ok
[07:42] <cafuego_> You don't need to run imwheel these days.
[07:43] <cafuego_> dmlinux: The wheel just works, provided you use the correct mouse protocol in X.
[07:43] <chavo> that's what I thought, it hasn't been updated in over a year
[07:43] <hume> hi... got a 5.04 installation, and wanted to upgrade to the 5.10-preview, is there a way to upgrade instead of fresh install?
[07:43] <dmlinux> cafuego thats the thing tho, when i got my mouse to work, nothing else would work
[07:44] <thoreauputic> hume: it's in the topic ^^^
[07:44] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:44] <hume> oooppps...sorry
[07:44] <thoreauputic> heheh
[07:44] <dmlinux> is there anyway to revert back to default settings for xorg and all my mouse files?
[07:44] <cafuego_> the ImPS/2 protocol on the right mouse device should do the trick.
[07:44] <regeya> wow, someone's asking about imwheel?  01ds|<00|_\
[07:44] <thoreauputic> hume: it's always a miracle if *anyone* reads the topic ;)
[07:45] <dmlinux> Section "InputDevice"
[07:45] <dmlinux> 	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
[07:45] <dmlinux> 	Driver		"mouse"
[07:45] <dmlinux> 	Option		"CorePointer"
[07:45] <dmlinux> 	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
[07:45] <dmlinux> 	Option		"Protocol"		"ExplorerPS/2"
[07:45] <dmlinux> 	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
[07:45] <dmlinux> 	Option		"Buttons"		"7"
[07:45] <dmlinux> 	Option		"ZaxisMapping"		"4 5"
[07:45] <dmlinux> 	Option 		"Resolution"		"100"
[07:45] <regeya> AAAAAAAAAARGH
[07:45] <dmlinux> EndSection
[07:45] <esac_> boot
[07:45] <mahangu> can i apt-get the java virtual machine?
[07:45] <esac_> dmlinux: dude, don't paste
[07:45] <Chousuke> mahangu: no.
[07:46] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: erm - do *not* paste in here, please
[07:46] <Chousuke> hmm
[07:46] <Chousuke> !java
[07:46] <ubotu> it has been said that java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[07:46] <mahangu> Chousuke, even multiverse?
[07:46] <Chousuke> yes
[07:46] <mahangu> the site has rpms
[07:46] <Chousuke> Because Sun's license prohibits it.
[07:46] <mahangu> how do install those
[07:46] <mahangu> Sun sucks ass then
[07:46] <mahangu> wtf
[07:46] <Chousuke> you don't.
[07:46] <dmlinux> why cant i paste, im having some problems and my settings are that which i pasted
[07:46] <Chousuke> you download the .bins and convert them to debs.
[07:46] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: read the topic
[07:47] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: it's a channel rule
[07:47] <mahangu> Chousuke, is there a simple bash command?
[07:47] <regeya> mahangu: it's their license.  it's their software.
[07:47] <Chousuke> mahangu: yeah.
[07:47] <Chousuke> look at the site.
[07:47] <chavo> dmlinux, they get really twitchy when you do that here
[07:47] <mahangu> regeya, agreed
[07:47] <cafuego_> dmlinux: Imagine 400 users all pasting 10 lines of config file.
[07:47] <Chousuke> regeya: I still think they suck. :P
[07:47] <mahangu> dmlinux, pastebin is nice b/c it has other features too
[07:47] <dmlinux> ok ok i get it, sorry :(
[07:47] <mahangu> dmlinux, people can correct your code on site
[07:47] <regeya> mahangu: I used to think that Java would take over the world, until I realized that their licensing scheme really really limited adoption
[07:47] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: OK :)
[07:47] <chavo> some guy that hasn't said anything in 4 days wakes and and gos -> boot
[07:48] <dmlinux> people can correct my code? wha
[07:48] <mahangu> regeya, totally. i mean i really hate installing stuff i cant apt-get
[07:48] <mahangu> dmlinux, just use the pastebin :)
[07:48] <regeya> heh
[07:48] <anethema> hey, ubuntuguide says to add these two repos for backports
[07:48] <anethema> ## Backports
[07:48] <anethema> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[07:48] <anethema> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:48] <anethema> but they no longer work
[07:48] <dmlinux> mahangu i dont get it
[07:48] <anethema> is there a reason why and what should i do
[07:48] <MadpilotPPC> !tell anethema about backports
[07:49] <mahangu> dmlinux use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:49] <chavo> I secretly type everything in another window and then paste it in here
[07:49] <dmlinux> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2781 ?
[07:49] <anethema> weird wonder why ubuntuguide sys to use those mirrormax ones
[07:49] <mister_roboto> regeya: there sure is an assload of J2EE code out there now, even if you don't consider it to have taken over the world
[07:50] <Chousuke> I think it's generally recommended to avoid Ubuntuguide.
[07:50] <dmlinux> mahangu, can you correct my code :P hehe
[07:50] <regeya> once I was on a family vacation that went to mammoth cave, and I was there to watch the bats fly out at night.  a park ranger gave a speech that included, several times, "please, no flash photos as it can blind the bats blah blah blah" and right in the middle of this, some old man right in front of her took a flash photo.  and if you think this is offtopic, you lack imagination.
[07:50] <MadpilotPPC> anethema, this is one reason why ubuntuguide is a bad idea...
[07:50] <MadpilotPPC> !tell anethema about ubuntuguide
[07:50] <regeya> mister_roboto: hi.
[07:50] <mister_roboto> regeya: hi :)
[07:51] <anethema> thanks MadpilotPPC
[07:51] <anethema> ubuntuguide was actually a HUGE help to me when i installed ubuntu
[07:51] <anethema> way more so than the ubuntu wiki, etcx
[07:51] <anethema> but yeah, out of date and stff, i hear ya
[07:51] <regeya> mister_roboto: true, and lthere's an assload of freebsd machines acting as servers of various types, but it's hardly taken over the world either.  depends on your definition of "world domination" I suppose
[07:51] <thoreauputic> anethema: yes, it used to be better
[07:51] <chavo> dmlinux, did you paste that link?!? :P
[07:52] <dmlinux> i dont know what the hell im doing :P
[07:52] <mahangu> thoreauputic, got t42
[07:52] <mahangu> :)
[07:52] <Chousuke> regeya: the only thing that will achieve world domination is Linux.
[07:52] <chavo> dmlinux, have you tried anyother settings in xorg.conf?
[07:52] <mahangu> aye!
[07:52] <Chousuke> That's an official goal.
[07:52] <regeya> wow, the new scribus has quite a few changes.
[07:52] <mahangu> linux will create the new world order
[07:52] <mister_roboto> regeya: I would argue that the importance of J2EE to the business world is just about, if not quite, infinitely larger than the importance of bsd to the biz world :)
[07:52] <Chousuke> mahangu: it'll be at the vanguard.
[07:52] <anethema> are the backports safe to run?..ie stable etc..
[07:52] <dmlinux> chavo ive tried every guide, but none are suited towards a Bluetooth wirless  mouse
[07:52] <anethema> basically asking, why arent they part of the normal upgrading
[07:52] <dmlinux> chaveo, and none work
[07:53] <anethema> sorry dont know much about it :(
[07:53] <regeya> or I could bring up, heh, I wonder if every copy of Berkeley DB out there were to suddenly disappear, would western civilization come to a screeching halt?
[07:53] <mahangu> Chousuke, :)
[07:53] <anethema> !faw
[07:53] <ubotu> anethema: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:53] <anethema> !faq
[07:53] <ubotu> methinks faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[07:54] <MadpilotPPC> anethema, the good thing about the wiki is that it IS a wiki; if you see problems or errors please sign in and have a go at fixing them yourself!
[07:54] <dmlinux> so i cant even post a link?
[07:55] <dmlinux> paste*
[07:55] <mister_roboto> regeya: my only point being, of course, that the Sun license on Java has done absolutely nothing to slow down its adoption by the biz community. yeah, some Debian folks don't like it but doesn't make the slightest diff to the rest of the world
[07:55] <regeya> mister_roboto: I always wondered what caused J2EE to make it so big.  great salesmanship?
[07:55] <sepmike> anyone know how to reformat your mbr?
[07:55] <anethema> i was askin about the backports MadpilotPPC
[07:55] <anethema> adding the backports to your repos
[07:55] <chavo> dmlinux, do all the buttons work?
[07:55] <mister_roboto> regeya: no, the fact that it makes multithreaded, transactional code MUCH easier than it used to be
[07:55] <anethema> just asking how safe that is for overall stability
[07:56] <anethema> and MadpilotPPC....http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ doesnt seem to be a wiki:(
[07:56] <MadpilotPPC> anethema, yeah, I was just continuing the earlier discussion about ubuntuguide... as for the current edition of backports, I've got no idea... haven't upgraded to Breezy yet
[07:56] <dmlinux> chavo, only the left and righ tmouse button and the scroll button CLICK ( not scroll function ),
[07:56] <mahangu> where can i get a list of yahoo rooms? im trying to test GAIM, see if it can do yahoo public chat
[07:56] <mister_roboto> regeya: and there are tons of libraries packaged with it instead of having to roll your own, well, just about anything  (for business programming anyway)
[07:56] <chavo> dmlinux, try changing  -> Option                "ZaxisMapping"                "4 5" to -> Option                "ZaxisMapping"                "6 7"
[07:57] <chavo> then you'll probably need to use xmodmap to get all of the buttons working
[07:57] <dmlinux> chavo, are you looking at my config now ?
[07:57] <regeya> mister_roboto: I was actually thinking back to the last time I actually used a Java app on a Windows XP machine.  'Coz the last time I installed a Java app, I had to install Java.  I seem to recall people going apeshit about how great Java would be for *desktop users*.  And I never understood the sense of bytecode-compiled apps running on a VM as a great way to write an enterprise app, but maybe that's why I'm not a professiona
[07:57] <chavo> yes
[07:57] <dmlinux> kk
[07:57] <anethema> hmmmmmm
[07:57] <anethema> maybe i should just upgrade
[07:57] <anethema> i assume just change all instances of hoary to breezy and i should be good to go
[07:58] <dmlinux> do i need to resart X for it to take effect? i have been rebooting, because alt cnrtl backspace shuts down GDM orwhatever so i have to reboot
[07:58] <chavo> dmlinux, you use gnome?
[07:58] <dmlinux> chavo yes
[07:58] <dmlinux> chavo dont know to use anything else
[07:58] <dmlinux> chavo is that bad?
[07:58] <chavo> put this in ~/.Xmodmap -> pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5
[07:59] <regeya> I remember being really impressed with Java "back in the day" though.  I can understand why some folks really pushed for it.  I'm just always a bit amused with how popular it got with the enterprise-app crowd, because I remember several "sage" industry types going on about how you couldn't trust Java for mission-critical stuff.  how times change.
[07:59] <chavo> dmlinux, no just trying to figure where you should configure xmodmap
[07:59] <mister_roboto> regeya: actually, we're getting to the point where machines are just getting fast enough for that to work. open office and eclipse are the biggest examples right now i know. and besides, the hotspot compiler means it's no longer just bytecode running
[07:59] <regeya> true that
[07:59] <chavo> so create ~/.Xmodmap with that line in there and change xorg.conf
[07:59] <dmlinux> mod map in Xsession.d?
[08:00] <chavo> no don't mess with that, it will be overwritten on updates anyway
[08:00] <dmlinux> chavo ok its made, what do i change in xorg now
[08:01] <chavo> change the "ZaxisMapping"                "4 5" to "ZaxisMapping"                "6 7"
[08:01] <anethema> !upgrade
[08:01] <ubotu> One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:01] <dmlinux> chavo, it was on 6 7 before
[08:01] <sepmike> anyone know?
[08:01] <sepmike> anyone know how to reformat your mbr?
[08:02] <MadpilotPPC> !+breezy
[08:02] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:02] <dmlinux> chavo, ok its changed, now what
[08:02] <chavo> dmlinux, is that what it's set to now?
[08:02] <dmlinux> chavo, have it set to 6 7 now
[08:02] <anethema> thanks MadpilotPPC
[08:02] <anethema> big help (not sarcastic)
[08:02] <chavo> run this -> xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5"
[08:03] <scribbles> I'm getting a Download Directory Error in PySoulSeek, what should the permissions on the media folder I just made be so that hte program can write there
[08:03] <dmlinux> chavo, run that? what
[08:03] <chavo> that command
[08:03] <dmlinux> in terminal?
[08:03] <chavo> yes
[08:04] <dmlinux> chavo ok now what
[08:05] <chavo> did that do anything to the buttons or the wheel?
[08:05] <dmlinux> nope
[08:05] <chavo> hmm, is imwheel running?
[08:05] <dmlinux> how do i tell
[08:05] <chavo> ps aux | grep imwheel
[08:06] <dmlinux> came up with a bunch of code stuff, no errors
[08:07] <dmlinux> chavo imwheel is running
[08:07] <chavo> ok
[08:07] <winner> hey guys
[08:07] <p0windah> ..and gals
[08:08] <winner> i'm trying to play music off of my iPod that is mounted. i just want to play songs off of it, but i don't want to copy them onto my computer.
[08:08] <winner> and gals :)
[08:08] <winner> i was wondering if anyone could help me with that
[08:08] <bob2> winner: surely it gets mounted as a normal usb-storage device?
[08:08] <chavo> try this -> killall imwheel && imwheel -f -k -p -b "67"
[08:08] <winner> bob2: well, how do i make sure?
[08:08] <dmlinux> chavo, the thing is, when i run xev, it doesnt detect ANYTHING from my scroll wheel, and my forward and back buttons
[08:09] <shastry> hey peeps
[08:09] <shastry> hows the kde support in ubuntu ?
[08:09] <bob2> winner: look in /media/
[08:09] <winner> Rhythmbox sees my iPod
[08:09] <scribbles> Kubuntu
[08:09] <bob2> shastry: non-existent
[08:09] <bob2> shastry: kubuntu has kde
[08:09] <scribbles> I'm getting a Download Directory Error in PySoulSeek, what should the permissions on the media folder I just made be so that hte program can write there
[08:09] <cafuego_> bob2: Yes, but you cannot access the music by artist/album/track through the fileystem.
[08:09] <shastry> :/
[08:09] <winner> bob2: i see my iPod's name as a dir
[08:09] <shastry> bob2: what if i want kde AND gnome ?
[08:10] <scribbles> well you're just a greedy little shit aren't you
[08:10] <bob2> cafuego_: ouch
[08:10] <bob2> shastry: have fun
[08:10] <bob2> that seems pointless, but it's trivial
[08:10] <cafuego_> bob2: it does essentially what squid does with its cache, when you copy data to the pod.
[08:10] <chavo> dmlinux, that sucks. Well look at this page http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Nav_Buttons , it's aall about mice with multiple buttons, imwheel, etc.
[08:10] <bob2> cafuego_: oh, that's crappy
[08:10] <winner> ah
[08:10] <winner> well how would i go around to play music off it?
[08:10] <chavo> It's a gentoo wiki, but the information will work in any distro
[08:10] <shastry> lol ubu not for me then :/
[08:10] <bob2> shastry: why?
[08:10] <cafuego_> bob2: Well, iTunes has no problems playing 'em. Rythombox can SEE them, but won't play 'em :-(
[08:10] <shastry> well.. as i told.. i need good support for both distros
[08:11] <dmlinux> chavo ill give that one a try too thanks bro
[08:11] <shastry> my users use both gnome and kde here
[08:11] <chavo> I wish I could help more, but I've got to get some sleep. Good luck.
[08:11] <winner> shastry: you can always try to just install both.
[08:11] <bob2> shastry: so...
[08:11] <cafuego_> winner: I don't know what you can, at all. Tried 'gtkpod' ?
[08:12] <winner> cafuego_: ah, yes, gtkpod. will it overwrite my current iPod library? i want to be still be able to sync it through iTunes (Windows)
[08:12] <bob2> shastry: why don't you just istall it and see how trivial it is to use both?
[08:12] <scribbles> has anyone gotten problems with Azureus and PySoulseek where you try to get them to download to a directory and you get directory creation and access errors
[08:12] <tga> heh, a bumpy update but I finally got breezy going
[08:12] <winner> cafuego_: of course, without losing my current songs inside.
[08:13] <senelson> Howdy all
[08:14] <deFrysk>  scribbles I use nicotine in stead of pysoulseek , its in the repo
[08:14] <deFrysk> try that
[08:14] <dmlinux> hey chavo
[08:14] <dmlinux> chavo, i was looking in /dev ,i cant find a /mouse file !
[08:15] <scribbles> oh
[08:15] <scribbles> I think it might be a permissions problem though, it happens in azureus too
[08:15] <tga> dmlinux, /dev/input/mice
[08:15] <shastry> bob2: okie thnx
[08:15] <MadpilotPPC> scribbles, where is it trying to write to, and who owns that directory?
[08:15] <deFrysk> scribbles, make sure the downloaddir ir in your /home/username area
[08:16] <tristanmike> scribbles, are you trying to write to a windows partition, like a FAT partition?
[08:16] <dmlinux> tga, but Option "Device" is /dev/mous
[08:16] <cafuego_> winner: it won't overwrite it if you don't tell it to do that. Note that clicking "Inititlise iPod" IS telling it to wipe stuff ;-)
[08:16] <winner> cafuego_: =o
[08:16] <cafuego_> winner: let me steal my wife's pod and check.
[08:16] <scribbles> no, I created ~/media/music
[08:16] <tga> dmlinux, well if you don't have one it's not gonna work, is it
[08:16] <scribbles> and I set it to download there
[08:16] <scribbles> from within my home dir
[08:16] <deFrysk> scribbles, set it up as root ?
[08:16] <tga> dmlinux, /dev/input/mice represents all mice connected to the system, in case you have more than one
[08:17] <deFrysk> and try to use it as user now ?
[08:17] <sri> how do you get a thinkpad (t42p) to suspend/sleep in breezy?
[08:17] <ormandj> what's the best newsgroup reader in linux now?
[08:17] <dmlinux> tga so is leaving option "device" /dev/mouse ok?
[08:17] <tristanmike> scribbles, that does sound like a permissions error, have you tried to run azureus as root?
[08:17] <deFrysk> ormandj, for binaries I use pan
[08:17] <tga> dmlinux, do you have a /dev/mouse?
[08:17] <ormandj> deFrysk, is it a gui app?
[08:18] <dmlinux> tga not in /dev foulder
[08:18] <ormandj> i'm not looking to dl porn, i use digital photography newsgroups
[08:18] <ormandj> so don't just need a binary sucker
[08:18] <tga> dmlinux, then why would you use it as a "device" if it doesn't exist? use /dev/input/mice
[08:18] <deFrysk> ormandj, yes ,it suports yenc and it rocks gtk2 app actually
[08:18] <scribbles> I just set the directory as 777
[08:18] <scribbles> isn't htat a bad idea
[08:18] <ormandj> defrysk: awesome, i'll give it a go! thanks :)
[08:18] <scribbles> now it works!
[08:18] <mahangu> scribbles, why not do chown username
[08:18] <scribbles> maybe 766?
[08:18] <dmlinux> ok, ill be back going to restart see if this does it
[08:18] <scribbles> oh, didn't know about that
[08:18] <calc> anything with pimp ass in the name has to be good ;)
[08:19] <mahangu> guys, what's a good news server?
[08:19] <cafuego_> oh wow, it's asking to import photos from the pod (photo)
[08:19] <deFrysk> scribbles, root has other perms then user ;)
[08:19] <scribbles> what should the perms be set at
[08:19] <winner> cafuego_: let me know when you get it :)
[08:19] <mahangu> cafuego, gtkpod?
[08:19] <mahangu> sweet
[08:19] <tristanmike> scribbles, you should just use you're home folder
[08:19] <deFrysk> scribbles, perms for user will do fine ;)
[08:20] <mahangu> scribbles, yeah, i store everything in my home
[08:20] <deFrysk> scribbles, and what tristanmike says
[08:20] <mahangu> :P
[08:20] <cafuego_> mahangu: No, breezy (nautilus)
[08:20] <tristanmike> scribbles, out of curiosity, why did you choose to use /media/music?
[08:20] <ormandj> mahangu, you have to pay to have a good one. giganews is great if you're using it to actually post/read posts
[08:20] <mahangu> cafuego, awesomeness
[08:20] <scribbles> what if I want it organized
[08:20] <deFrysk> scribbles, just try not to use root(sudo) when its not needed
[08:20] <ormandj> if you're just after binaries, the usage limits might kill ya though
[08:20] <mahangu> ormandj, ah, bummer
[08:20] <scribbles> because I have a habit of downloading lots of things off usenet
[08:20] <scribbles> and it gets very unorganized very quickly
[08:20] <cafuego_> winner: It's sorting 7000 tracks,  this might take a whole.
[08:20] <mahangu> scribbles, create folders in it
[08:21] <scribbles> well thats what I'm doing with /media/
[08:21] <tristanmike> deFrysk, what if he ran the program as root, then could it save to that folder while maintaining the permissions?
[08:21] <mahangu> cafuego, usb 2?
[08:21] <ormandj> hm, i apt-get'd pan, but i don't see it in the menus
[08:21] <ormandj> do i have to add it manually? or just logout of gnome?
[08:21] <winner> cafuego_: okay. let me know if it finishes.
[08:21] <scribbles> its under Internet ormandj
[08:21] <tristanmike> scribbles, then have a "usenet" folder just for that stuff
[08:21] <cafuego_> mahangu: No, this crusty laptop only has usb 1.1 :-(
[08:21] <ormandj> scribbles, no, it isn't :P
[08:21] <scribbles> haha are you critiquing my organization style damnit
[08:21] <ormandj> scribbles, it *should* be under internet :P
[08:21] <deFrysk> tristanmike, I guess thats what he did
[08:21] <ormandj> maybe i have to logout of gnome
[08:22] <mahangu> cafuego, ah, it'l take a while then
[08:22] <tristanmike> scribbles, lol, no not at all, just some friendly alternatives
[08:22] <cafuego_> 1300 done now
[08:22] <scribbles> I set the dir to 777
[08:22] <scribbles> and soulseeks all happy now
[08:22] <tristanmike> that's what I thought he did
[08:22] <scribbles> but wouldn't 766 be more intelligent?
[08:22] <cafuego_> winner: Anyway, it's not wiping anything.
[08:22] <winner> cafuego_: okay. phew.
[08:22] <scribbles> I would've had this error with nicotine
[08:22] <scribbles> Azureus doe sit too
[08:22] <mahangu> has anybody written a gmail drive like script for *nix?
[08:22] <tristanmike> but if he ran Azu as root, could it save to any folder while perserving permissions accross the board, or nicotine for that matter.
[08:23] <winner> cafuego_: im worried because i performed a iTunesDB rebuild thing with this python script on my shuffle and the shuffle became uselss under iTunes
[08:23] <deFrysk> tristanmike, true
[08:23] <tristanmike> would that work?
[08:23] <winner> cafuego_: like, it would show up, but attempts to drag songs onto it wouldn't work. it'll show up as empty no matter what.
[08:23] <scribbles> I imagine it would, but isn't running programs as root 24/7 a problem in itself
[08:24] <deFrysk> tristanmike, if he wouls have made a folder as a plain user first and use that later he would have had no probs
[08:24] <scribbles> ohhh
[08:24] <scribbles> I sudo mkdir'd it and thats why it was different
[08:24] <scribbles> is that what you're saying
[08:24] <deFrysk> scribbles, again dont use sudo when you dont have to
[08:24] <scribbles> well is that hte problem
[08:25] <deFrysk> scribbles, thats what I tried to tell you
[08:25] <sri> never never
[08:25] <tristanmike> deFrysk, but you can't write to the /media dir unless you're sudo..?
[08:26] <scribbles> sorry I'm really high
[08:26] <sri> oh! never mind it works..woo
[08:26] <scribbles> I'm trying, I promise :)
[08:26] <tristanmike> scribbles, content.....
[08:26] <scribbles> yea.
[08:27] <senelson> Anyone have experience getting LVM working with Hoary and Xen?
[08:27] <GTroy> anyone up to helping a newbie install a netgear driver?
[08:27] <deFrysk> tristanmike, one should aways stay within his /home area for downloads
[08:27] <deFrysk> its safer
[08:27] <scribbles> no no no it is in my home area
[08:27] <deFrysk> scribbles, ok ;)
[08:27] <scribbles> /home/user/media/music
[08:28] <tristanmike> deFrysk, agreed 100%, so when you were saying make a folder as a normal user, you mean in the home folder
[08:28] <benplaut> !netgear
[08:28] <ubotu> benplaut: Are you smoking crack?
[08:28] <benplaut> no
[08:28] <deFrysk> tristanmike, that goes without saying
[08:28] <benplaut> !bad bot
[08:28] <ubotu> bad benplaut!
[08:28] <tristanmike> cool
[08:28] <GTroy> benplaut: you willing to help?
[08:28] <tristanmike> scribbles, lol, all this time, I think we though you meant /media/music
[08:28] <scribbles> no
[08:28] <scribbles> heh
[08:28] <deFrysk> tristanmike, /home/username folder that is
[08:28] <tristanmike> deFrysk, of course ;)
[08:28] <benplaut> GTroy: i have no idea on the topic, but the bot sometimes knows :)
[08:29] <scribbles> I think the problem lies in the fact that the folder was made with sudo
[08:29] <scribbles> ?
[08:29] <senelson> !xen
[08:29] <GTroy> what's the bot's name?
[08:29] <deFrysk> scribbles, i think so too
[08:29] <tristanmike> scribbles, so you're getting an azureus error in you're home folder?
[08:29] <tristanmike> cool
[08:29] <scribbles> when Azureus opens a torrent it erros at the directory creation
[08:30] <scribbles> and I think slsk just did too
[08:30] <scribbles> until I opened the perms on the folder
[08:30] <tristanmike> so other folders do work
[08:30] <anethema> whats the diff between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade? (functionally0
[08:31] <scribbles> I haven't tried other folders
[08:31] <scribbles> but I think its just a permission error
[08:31] <scribbles> but what permissions SHOULD i bet setting on them is my question
[08:31] <scribbles> the slsk download worked when I set it to 777
[08:32] <anethema> nevermind i found it thanks
[08:33] <GTroy> what's #ubuntu's bot's name?
[08:33] <cafuego_> !test
[08:33] <ubotu> Failed.
[08:34] <GTroy> !test?
[08:34] <randomc0de> Davey, I got both monitors up with Nvidia Twinview... only problem is they're misaligned
[08:34] <ubotu> Passed.
[08:34] <Myrtti> !tell GTroy about ubotu
[08:34] <geneo93> uboto passed
[08:34] <cafuego_> winner: Hmm, gtkpod can't play them.
[08:36] <GTroy> ok I'll give this a hail mary
[08:36] <aftertaf> anethema:  what was it, the difference?
[08:37] <GTroy> !tell me who is good at netgear drivers
[08:37] <cafuego_> acx100?
[08:38] <MadpilotPPC> !+wireless
[08:38] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:38] <GTroy> thanks madpilot
[08:39] <cafuego_> If it's an MA311v2 you're in for a worl of pain.
[08:39] <randomc0de> anyone good with Twinview?
[08:41] <ReleaseX> what's the best way to install realplayer, apt-get install realplayer didn't seem to work for me
[08:41] <tristanmike> ReleaseX, use the one and the instructions off of www.real.com
[08:41] <tristanmike> if you *really* want real player
[08:41] <cafuego_> or use helixplayer
[08:43] <ReleaseX> tristanmike, ok thanks
[08:43] <runge> hi. I need a package from debian sid rep. (SPE). I would Like to ad debidan sid rep though I am new to ubuntu/debian, any links to where I  can look?
[08:43] <tristanmike> ReleaseX, cafuego_ had a nice idea you should, if anything, have a google at
[08:44] <benplaut> I have a laptop hooked up to an external moniter. Totem [breezy]  has a nice little splash screen  with a little film real (i think) that appears before you start a movie. For some odd reason, when turning on the laptop with the moniter connected, the splash shows up blank, and the movies work - but with no picture. What the...?
[08:44] <Myrtti> runge: first consider can you live without debian repos
[08:45] <Myrtti> because generally installing from them is A Bad Idea(tm)
[08:45] <runge> Myrtti, well, execept that app (python ide) I do not need sid
[08:45] <cafuego_> runge: There is but one way in which that will work. This way is the manual backport.
[08:45] <Myrtti> "been there, done that" :-/
[08:46] <cafuego_> !info spe breezy
[08:46] <ubotu> spe: (Stani's Python Editor), section universe/python, is optional. Version: 0.7.5c-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1986 kB, Installed size: 5372 kB
[08:46] <SogniX> any way to reconfiger Xorg?
[08:46] <cafuego_> runge: That what you're after?
[08:46] <SlicerDicer-> does anybody know how to put rpm's on ubuntu?
[08:46] <Myrtti> SlicerDicer-: with alien
[08:46] <tristanmike> SlicerDicer-, if you can't find a .deb, install alien
[08:46] <cafuego_> SlicerDicer-: "not". You convert them with 'alien'.
[08:46] <SlicerDicer-> ok
[08:47] <randomc0de> so anyone good with multimonitor setups/nvidia twinview support?
[08:48] <SogniX> hmmm... seems Xorg won't start cuz I'm missing drivers for "Silicon Integrated systems"...
[08:49] <randomc0de> you don't need specific drivers, what card is it?
[08:49] <x_madbot> I have upgraded breezy, but now GDM not work, and I have to start X by hand, anyone knows about this?
[08:50] <_eXoDuS> I'm using breezy, and for a while ubuntu's linux-image fails to boot properly, the initrd fails to mount the root filesystem, the way to solve it is to remake the initrd including ext3 in the list of modules. If I don't do this it dies trying to mount the root fs as xfs, any ideas why I could have this problem? It's starting to become annoying
[08:50] <SogniX> randomc0de: "Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] "
[08:51] <randomc0de> Sognix, I've never really heard of that one
[08:51] <tristanmike> can someone tell me what might be causing the problem at the bottom here, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2778, thanx
[08:51] <SogniX> yeah, it's a cheapie one
[08:51] <SogniX> worked fine in X11 :/
[08:51] <_eXoDuS> SogniX: 'in X11' ?
[08:52] <firebird619> When I try to view something that uses flash, that I know has sound, I do not hear the sound. I have sound with other things. What can I do to get sound with things that use Flash? I also have this same problem of no sound when trying to listen to an audio stream using VLC.
[08:52] <SogniX> uh... whatever was driving the display before breezy
[08:52] <Belutz> tristanmike, i think they are updating the repos, try to do update again in a few minutes
[08:52] <cafuego_> winner: Aha! rhythmbox play music off my iPod now.
[08:52] <_eXoDuS> SogniX: hoary has x.org too
[08:52] <Belutz> tristanmike, it also happened to me
[08:52] <_eXoDuS> SogniX: before that it was xfree86
[08:52] <SogniX> hmm
[08:53] <SogniX> so why does it fail now? :(
[08:53] <tristanmike> Belutz, actually it happend earlier tonight from a friends computer I installed Ubuntu on tonight, but it didn't happen on mine when I updated, and we have the same sources.list
[08:53] <_eXoDuS> SogniX: maybe you are missing something?
[08:53] <geneo93> _eXoDuS:  it was in warty not hoary
[08:53] <_eXoDuS> SogniX: what driver are you trying to use?
[08:53] <_eXoDuS> geneo93: xfree86 in wary, xorg in hoary
[08:54] <geneo93> yes i know
[08:54] <Belutz> tristanmike, i see, well, in my case, i just wait another minutes before updating again
[08:54] <_eXoDuS> geneo93: that's exactly what i said
[08:54] <geneo93> warty
[08:54] <vladuz976> how much longer til breezy?
[08:54] <SogniX> _eXoDuS:  I'm not... it just refuses to go into gnome
[08:54] <randomc0de> I have a multimonitor setup using twinview but the monitors aren't aligned properly, and I can't seem to change their positions
[08:54] <_eXoDuS> SogniX: you are not what?
[08:54] <aftertaf> vladuz976:  13th oct
[08:55] <vladuz976> aftertaf, yesssssss
[08:55] <tristanmike> Belutz, hmmm, ok, my friend is gone, and thus the computer so I'll try again next time, thanx
[08:55] <SogniX> _eXoDuS: using drivers... uh... or I don't know what it's using I should say...
[08:55] <locomorto> v,aduz976: you can get it now if you want
[08:55] <locomorto> vladuz976: you can get it now if you want **
[08:55] <_eXoDuS> SogniX: well, you have to configure X to use the appropiate driver, the installation didnt do this for you/
[08:55] <_eXoDuS> ?
[08:55] <vladuz976> locomorto, i guess i could, but people say the upgrade is not very smooth
[08:56] <SogniX> I guess not
[08:56] <_eXoDuS> SogniX: this is a fresh install?
[08:56] <SogniX> no
[08:56] <SogniX> which I might try if I can't get it to work
[08:56] <_eXoDuS> SogniX: so it was working before?
[08:56] <SogniX> yes
[08:57] <aftertaf> SogniX:  tried using vesa drivers?
[08:57] <_eXoDuS> SogniX: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:57] <_eXoDuS> from the command line
[08:57] <_eXoDuS> when it asks for the driver try the vesa
[08:57] <_eXoDuS> then try restarting gdm
[08:57] <_eXoDuS>  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:59] <locomorto> vladux976: its basically there right now
[08:59] <locomorto> vladux976: I think they have sorted out most of the upgrading woes anyway
[09:00] <[Jonne] > small question: how do I restore the windows XP boot option in grub? It seems to have disappeared after doing apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:01] <[Jonne] > (or for some other reason
[09:01] <vladuz976> locomorto, yeah ppl said they crashed their system upgrading with apt
[09:01] <Knelix> My cursor just turned into a small black and white cursor, and the system will not respond? Does anybody know what may have happened?
[09:01] <locomorto> vladux976: Then use the preview cd and upgrade from there
[09:01] <aftertaf> [Jonne] :  open /boot/grub/menu.list   in an editor, and read the top bit where it mentions windows....
[09:02] <SogniX> ugh... okay - now the box is having a hardware issue... grrr... need to upgrade the hardware :(
[09:03] <SogniX> anyone know what 4 red LED lights on an MSI board means? :p
[09:03] <aftertaf> SogniX:  not good.......
[09:03] <SogniX> figured as much. heh
[09:04] <aftertaf> :p  yeah, bad :/
[09:04] <geneo93> ahh i could look in my manual
[09:04] <_eXoDuS> SogniX: it means you should get an ASUS motherboard :)
[09:05] <geneo93> i think it could be bad memory module
[09:05] <SogniX> :p
[09:05] <aftertaf> lol
[09:05] <_eXoDuS> ugh, anyone knows of any debs for breezy for azureus?
[09:05] <geneo93> skake the memory a little
[09:05] <mahangu> SogniX, check if all your RAM is slotted in properly
[09:05] <_eXoDuS> the binary doesn't work very well :/
[09:05] <ubuntu_newbie> hello everyone..
[09:05] <mahangu> _eXoDuS, why not just use gnome bittorrent?
[09:05] <SogniX> actually - I hear some weird noise coming from it now
[09:05] <ubuntu_newbie> who here knows how to use cedega transgamming?
[09:06] <ubuntu_newbie> I installed already the program but I dont know how to use it
[09:06] <geneo93> BS my msi is 4 years old and still kickin butt
[09:06] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: azureus has some useful options, and in my experience it downloads faster / finds peers faster
[09:06] <ubuntu_newbie> any idea??
[09:06] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: i'm actually using gnome-bt right now
[09:06] <mahangu> _eXoDuS, really? ill apt-get it now :)
[09:06] <mahangu> isnt it java thouhg?
[09:06] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: if you find any repos with it let me know :/
[09:07] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: yeah it's java, that's the downside :)
[09:07] <ubuntu_newbie> anyone here??
[09:07] <mahangu> bah forget it
[09:07] <mahangu> java sucks
[09:07] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: it's slow as hell and uses too much cpu, specially if it runs wrong
[09:07] <aftertaf> !info azureus breezy
[09:07] <nrbq> hello all
[09:07] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: I don't like java, but it doesn't suck, it has it's uses
[09:07] <mahangu> _eXoDuS, i figured
[09:07] <mouhahaha> hi, can i paste an error msg here so someone can help me out on ubuntu ?
[09:07] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: thing is java in breezy is very buggy :/
[09:07] <mahangu> _eXoDuS, yeah i just cant take the slowness
[09:07] <aftertaf> mouhahaha:  nope, use pastebin
[09:07] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: me either, but once i put it to download, i iconify it and the cpu usage goes down :)
[09:08] <aftertaf> !tell mouhahaha about pastebin
[09:08] <geneo93> aftertaf:  my azureus works fine
[09:08] <_eXoDuS> mouhahaha: read the damned topic
[09:08] <ubuntu_newbie> is this place /dev/null ?
[09:08] <ubuntu_newbie> =P
[09:08] <mahangu> ubotu, tell mouhahaha about pastebin
[09:09] <_maydayjay_> has anyone successfully got a Broadcom 4318 working on an ACER laptop with the wifi button? Or by forcing the radio on somehow?
[09:09] <nrbq> ah, this is what I love about IRC - people are always so calm and helpful to those who don't (apparently) know as much as them
[09:09] <Venson> nrbq: first day on IRC?
[09:09] <mahangu> nrbq, heh
[09:09] <nrbq> first day back in about 3 years
[09:09] <_eXoDuS> nrbq: stfu j00 n00b :p
[09:09] <aftertaf> geneo93:  good for you :)... i never use it.
[09:09] <mahangu> N00b
[09:09] <mahangu> lol
[09:10] <_eXoDuS> geneo93: how did you install it?
[09:10] <mahangu> blimey my wifi is on steroids
[09:10] <nrbq> as with all things - it has its uses
[09:10] <_eXoDuS> geneo93: i'm trying the bin in breezy and it's using 60% cpu constant :/
[09:10] <mahangu> geeks mature on irc
[09:10] <sasch1> hi, how can I install the helpsystem of openoffice? Somehow its not available.
[09:10] <geneo93> aftertaf:  it best i ever used so far
[09:10] <mahangu> it's like the incubator of geekdom
[09:10] <nrbq> mahangu, depends on what you mean by mature. ;)
[09:10] <mahangu> _eXoDuS, should i get breezy?
[09:10] <aftertaf> mahangu:  lol
[09:10] <mahangu> aftertaf, no seriously :P
[09:10] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: wait for the final release if you are not so shabby
[09:11] <nrbq> since I'm a ubuntu noob, what is breezy?
[09:11] <geneo93> _eXoDuS:  there is no install just click on icon
[09:11] <mahangu> wtf, you get a noob on irc, in six months he'll be answering questions in the channel
[09:11] <aftertaf> since i'm a geek, is there hope?
[09:11] <mahangu> find a CS course that can do that and let me know ;)
[09:11] <MadpilotPPC> mahangu, less than six months, in my experience...
[09:11] <mahangu> aftertaf, there definitely is hope
[09:11] <nrbq> hehe, mahangu, you're probably right
[09:11] <_eXoDuS> geneo93: i rather ./azureus, but i mean, you are using the binary from azureus.sf.net or some debs?
[09:11] <aftertaf> mahangu:  i do that already :)
[09:11] <mahangu> MadpilotPPC, there you go, less than six months
[09:11] <MadpilotPPC> nrbq, Breezy is the next version of Ubuntu, 5.10, due out on Oct 13th - about a week from now!
[09:11] <mahangu> MadpilotPPC, you're running Ubuntu on a mac? neato
[09:12] <nrbq> wow!
[09:12] <mahangu> ubotu tell nrbq about breezy
[09:12] <Venson> i wonder if breezy cd's have shipped already
[09:12] <sasch1> anybody....? help system in Openoffice2?
[09:12] <geneo93> well actualy its a shell script but i made icon for it
[09:12] <nrbq> I just got a copy of hedgehog yesterday and installed it and was so impressed I said I'd never go back to SuSE
[09:12] <benplaut> I have a laptop hooked up to an external moniter. Totem [breezy]  has a nice little splash screen  with a little film real (i think) that appears before you start a movie. For some odd reason, when turning on the laptop with the moniter connected, the splash shows up blank, and the movies work - but with no picture. What the...?
[09:12] <ubuntu_newbie> who here knowz how to use cedega transgamming on ubuntu??
[09:12] <aftertaf> nrbq:  way to go :)
[09:12] <ubuntu_newbie> also known as wineX ?
[09:12] <MadpilotPPC> mahangu, it's actually not my own machine, but a friends, and it runs Ubuntu just fine
[09:12] <rob^> !cedega
[09:12] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[09:12] <mahangu> Venson, nah, they said week after release
[09:12] <mahangu> so im guessing shipping will start oct 20th
[09:13] <Venson> mahangu: i see....can you point me to where you read that?
[09:13] <mahangu> MadpilotPPC, awesome, i just installed on my new thinkpad t42, and it found wifi, and everything else
[09:13] <mahangu> including my webcam
[09:13] <ubuntu_newbie> rob thanks
[09:13] <mahangu> Venson, http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:13] <_eXoDuS> geneo93: still my question is did you install using debs or you just downloaded the binary from azureus.sf.net ?
[09:13] <nrbq> yeah, I was just knocked out with how easy it installs and finds everything
[09:13] <nrbq> I also can't get over apt-get!
[09:13] <nrbq> Hahaha!!!!
[09:13] <mahangu> nrbq, so was I. it's amazing
[09:13] <mahangu> haha apt-get is pretty sweet too
[09:14] <nrbq> You want a package? Just get it!
[09:14] <aftertaf> nrbq:  welcome to the world of debian:)
[09:14] <mahangu> lol
[09:14] <mahangu> debian <3 me
[09:14] <mahangu> i <3 debian
[09:14] <nrbq> Yeah - I was put off of Debian by a guy I used to work with who really went on and on about how hard it was to use.
[09:14] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: i doubt debian loves you, but the other way round sounds fair
[09:14] <Venson> mahangu: that page mentions nothing about shipping date
[09:14] <nrbq> Not for anyone less than an obertechie
[09:14] <mahangu> _eXoDuS, debian does love me, trustme on that
[09:14] <aftertaf> nrbq:  not true! but it aint easy for a n00b
[09:14] <_eXoDuS> nrbq: debian is hard to install, but that's the difference between ubuntu and debian
[09:15] <mahangu> Venson, sorry one sec
[09:15] <aftertaf> and debian is soooo easy to break.
[09:15] <nrbq> _eXoDuS, I'll take your word for it - I don't plan to move off ubuntu any time soon! IT's just too awesome!
[09:15] <nrbq> :))
[09:15] <_eXoDuS> Venson: i read it when i ordered my cds, it said they would be shipped one week after release
[09:15] <aftertaf> jst get impatient for updates, switch to sid  and you boot no more :)
[09:15] <mahangu> _eXoDuS, is vanilla hard to install?>
[09:15] <sasch1> Is there somewhere on a forgotten repository a openoffice.org2-help package? Its really annoying to have the huge office suite without helpsystem.
[09:15] <SogniX> welp, it's fried
[09:15] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: vanilla? no, just buy some at a market :)
[09:15] <nrbq> aftertaf, really? Wow, then that settles it. I'm sticking with ubuntu!
[09:16] <brownie17> can someone tell me how i set up VLC to be the default aplication for all video files?
[09:16] <Venson> _eXoDuS: i see....weird....i ordered it two weeks ago, but i don't remember it mentioning anything remotely about shipping date
[09:16] <mahangu> Venson, you need SPECS - "Please note that orders placed now will not ship until approximately one week after the release of Version 5.10."
[09:16] <mahangu> it's in BOLD
[09:16] <mahangu> :)
[09:16] <_eXoDuS> Venson: maybe it changed? I ordered them 2 days ago
[09:16] <geneo93> aftertaf:  maybe thats because is broken to start with
[09:16] <MadpilotPPC> sasch1, I think there might be a seperate -docs package; search Synaptic...
[09:16] <mahangu> _eXoDuS, i want my vanilla from debian damnit
[09:16] <aftertaf> nrbq:  yeah... but it was my fault for going to unstable version without actually knowing how to recover the system in case of pbs.
[09:16] <Venson> heh....i'm wearing specs alright. and i need to sleep too ;)
[09:16] <_maydayjay_> Can someone tell me if they have successfully compiled acer_acpi on kernel 2.6.12?
[09:16] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: dunno, for me it's darn easy to install, but most people complain it's hard, I just shoot em dead when they come complaining :p
[09:17] <Venson> ah...orders placed _now_....nevermind.
[09:17] <mahangu> _eXoDuS, always a good policy
[09:17] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: definetly, definetly
[09:17] <mouhahaha> can someone help me install ethereal on ubuntu ?
[09:17] <joee> Hey guys I am searching for something like ubuntu gnome desktop light or something like that, does that exist?
[09:17] <mahangu> Venson, you ordered hoary? well it took like 4 weeks to sri lanka
[09:17] <nrbq> mouhahaha, what prbs have you had?
[09:17] <mahangu> should be less where you are
[09:17] <_eXoDuS> joee: light?
[09:17] <mahangu> mouhahaha, apt-get install etherape
[09:17] <_eXoDuS> joee: oh, you mean low resources?
[09:17] <aftertaf> i can install debian no pbs, just not all the extra periphs out of the box... i even managed to updrage my kernel from 2.4.24 to 2.6.8
[09:17] <Venson> mahangu: nah...breezy. ordered it two weeks ago
[09:17] <mahangu> etherape is pretty sweet in my experience
[09:17] <lightstar> joee : try xfce
[09:17] <mahangu> Venson, then i guess it'l ship after release
[09:18] <mahangu> does ubuntu ship betas? i dont know
[09:18] <Venson> we'll see heh
[09:18] <nrbq> mahangu, how does that differ from ethereal?
[09:18] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: no, only final releases
[09:18] <mahangu> nrbq, i searched thereal and found ape, i think it's a port/fork
[09:18] <sasch1> MadpilotPPC: its not. There is something about non free binary-jars and debian doesnt want to use it. But is there another possibility to get it work with the deb-packages?
[09:18] <aftertaf> you can get the daily iso by torrent though
[09:18] <mahangu> _eXoDuS, that's what i thought
[09:18] <brownie17> can someone tell me how i set up VLC to be the default aplication for all video files?
[09:18] <nrbq> mahangu, thanks
[09:18] <mahangu> nrbq, np
[09:18] <Venson> brownie17: what desktop?
[09:18] <_eXoDuS> damn
[09:19] <_eXoDuS> it doesn't download
[09:19] <_eXoDuS> grr
[09:19] <brownie17> Venson, gnome
[09:19] <_eXoDuS> last time i used azureus without problems it was in debian sid
[09:19] <mahangu> _eXoDuS, threaten it
[09:19] <tere_> this is probably a stupid newbie gnome question, but anyhow: I installed hoary, and like it, but now something happened: there used to be these nice tabs to open windows at the bottom of the screen, but they disppaered and i can't get them back ...
[09:19] <MadpilotPPC> sasch1, wha??? I thought you were asking about the OpenOffice help/doc files? /me confused...
[09:19] <Venson> brownie17: right-click on a file, go to Properties....from there you should be able to associate it with whatever app you want
[09:19] <mahangu> tell it you will uninstall JVM
[09:19] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: you threaten java, it crashes :)
[09:19] <aftertaf> _eXoDuS:  get a tarball? report a b00g?
[09:19] <nrbq> oh, here's a question:
[09:19] <dooglus> tere_: right-click the panel, 'add to panel', 'window list'
[09:19] <_eXoDuS> aftertaf: im using the tarball
[09:19] <nrbq> I tried to install limewire yesterday
[09:19] <_eXoDuS> aftertaf: no .deb magic here
[09:19] <nrbq> with the instructions from ubuntuguide.org
[09:20] <sasch1> MadpilotPPC: this is what I asked, there is no doc file in synaptic because of some nonfree blahblah
[09:20] <_eXoDuS> aftertaf: be damned, long live gnome-bt :(
[09:20] <tere_> right! thx
[09:20] <aftertaf> _eXoDuS:  grfffffffff!!
[09:20] <aftertaf> :)
[09:20] <_eXoDuS> :)
[09:20] <nrbq> it won't launch for two reasons: 1) the shortcut in the Apps list doesn't work and 2) I can't get apt-get to give me a java download
[09:20] <dooglus> silly question:  which gnome apps use the 'control t' keybinding?
[09:20] <geneo93> java does need to be install correctly
[09:20] <nrbq> Has anyone else had this problem?
[09:20] <_eXoDuS> dooglus: all
[09:20] <mahangu> ok im off to study
[09:20] <MadpilotPPC> sasch1, OOo is Free, though.... just a sec, I'll have a look at my own system
[09:20] <dooglus> _eXoDuS: really?  what does gedit use it for?
[09:20] <mahangu> anybody know anything about the philosophy of science?
[09:20] <_eXoDuS> dooglus: it's a gtk binding... wait, i'm not sure now
[09:20] <mahangu> :)
[09:20] <nrbq> mahangu, good luck!
[09:20] <_eXoDuS> dooglus: probably opening a new tab
[09:20] <nrbq> What are you studying?
[09:20] <joee> hey guys I am searching for something like a ligth gnome desktop for ubuntu, is there a predefined packages for that?
[09:20] <mahangu> nrbq, thanks
[09:20] <_maydayjay_> Anyone running an Acer laptop with Broadcom wifi through ndiswrapper?
[09:20] <mahangu> nrbq, first semester finals
[09:21] <dooglus> _eXoDuS: apparently not.
[09:21] <_eXoDuS> joee: install xfce
[09:21] <nrbq> eek!
[09:21] <dooglus> _eXoDuS: I think it only makes new tabs when you open a file
[09:21] <_eXoDuS> dooglus: mmm, then i could be wrong, it normally means new tab though
[09:21] <tere_> mahangu: used to teach it...
[09:21] <nrbq> mahangu, hope that goes well.
[09:21] <_eXoDuS> dooglus: for example in firefox
[09:21] <dooglus> _eXoDuS: I know.  it does in firefox and galeon.  I'm wondering what other gnome apps I can try it in.
[09:21] <joee> _eXoDuS is that available as a package?
[09:21] <dooglus> I'm reporting a bug y'see, and want to say where it happens and where it doesn't
[09:21] <_eXoDuS> dooglus: mmm, no clue, now that i think of it it might be a firefox/galeon feature, not gtk
[09:21] <_eXoDuS> joee: yes
[09:22] <mahangu> tere_, really? cool :) it's just an elective credit im doing.. segregation of sciences
[09:22] <mahangu> sceintific method et c
[09:22] <mahangu> nrbq, thanks
[09:22] <nrbq> Has anyone else had problems getting a download of jre1.5 from apt-get?
[09:22] <mahangu> *scientific even
[09:22] <joee> _eXoDuS: so just installing server version and then apt-get install xfce?
[09:22] <_eXoDuS> dooglus: ok, i got another one right here
[09:22] <_eXoDuS> dooglus: xchat :)
[09:22] <_eXoDuS> joee: not sure the exact package name, apt-cache search is your friend
[09:23] <joee> _eXoDuS: i  hope so :)
[09:23] <dooglus> _eXoDuS: hmmm, ok.  i'll try that.  thanks.
[09:23] <aftertaf> xchat for windows is payware
[09:23] <SogniX> I'm going to call it a night... thanks guys for the help - I just had a box that decided to kill itself off than upgrade... shesh! I'll be downloading the ISO and try again on the Windows box tomorow. :)
[09:24] <mahangu> alert, alert - someone said the word windows
[09:24] <mahangu> :o
[09:24] <SogniX> lol
[09:24] <mahangu> hehe, i should have a trigger like that
[09:24] <_eXoDuS> aftertaf: i thought i was in #ubuntu ?
[09:24] <aftertaf> twice in a row actually......
[09:24] <MadpilotPPC> aftertaf, seriously? people *pay* for this piece of... stuff?
[09:24] <aftertaf> _eXoDuS:  you are..
[09:24] <_eXoDuS> SogniX: np, good luck
[09:24] <aftertaf> MadpilotPPC:  yep!
[09:24] <mouhahaha> atp-get isn't working,  am i supposed to configure it or something ?
[09:24] <SogniX> mahangu:  but I'm installing Ubuntu on it :p
[09:24] <geneo93> hey i look out windows all day long
[09:24] <MadpilotPPC> mouhahaha, what are you trying to apt-get?
[09:24] <runge> cafuego, sorry I was away. I am looking for SPE and its in debian sid. you said that one can do a manual backport. can you explain?
[09:24] <mahangu> SogniX, alert level reduced to 30
[09:25] <nrbq> mouhahaha, I'm very new to ubuntu, but if apt-get isn't working, something is majorly wrong, n'est-ce pas?
[09:25] <geneo93> mouhahaha:  sudo
[09:25] <_eXoDuS> mouhahaha: not working? explain please
[09:25] <mahangu> nrbq, apt-get update
[09:25] <mahangu> if you updated your sources.list
[09:25] <SogniX> and I didn't pay for XP - client hated it and went back to 2000 - gave me XP... I just poke at it with a stick mostly :D
[09:25] <mahangu> SogniX, xp cds make great coasters
[09:25] <mahangu> or frisbees
[09:26] <mahangu> doggy biscuits
[09:26] <nrbq> mahangu, thanks, I tried that, but it still complains
[09:26] <jhiver> lads, is there a repository I can use to install mplayer and a bazillon video codecs?
[09:26] <nrbq> Let me get the error message
[09:26] <mahangu> you name it
[09:26] <mouhahaha> root@AFH:/home/mouhahaha/Desktop/GTK# sudo apt-get install ethereal
[09:26] <mouhahaha> Reading package lists... Done
[09:26] <mouhahaha> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:26] <mouhahaha> E: Couldn't find package ethereal
[09:26] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: i find it handy for putting my cup of hot coffee on it
[09:26] <Benjamin_L> can someone tell me where I can find this .xsession ? I don't seem to have one on my system ? http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/blog/projects/gnome/1128486649
[09:26] <mahangu> mouhahaha, i sent you the pastebin URI
[09:26] <_eXoDuS> mouhahaha: that means the package doesnt exist
[09:26] <mahangu> don't paste in here
[09:26] <MadpilotPPC> !tell jhiver about restricted
[09:26] <_eXoDuS> mouhahaha: apt-get works though
[09:26] <Venson> Benjamin_L: if it's not there, create it.
[09:26] <benplaut> I have a laptop hooked up to an external moniter. Totem [breezy]  has a nice little splash screen  with a little film real (i think) that appears before you start a movie. For some odd reason, when turning on the laptop with the moniter connected, the splash shows up blank, and the movies work - but with no picture. What the...?
[09:26] <mahangu> mouhahaha, do apt-get search etherape
[09:26] <_eXoDuS> Benjamin_L: most if the time it's not there, just create one in your home dir
[09:27] <Benjamin_L> ok, thank you, I'll try
[09:27] <mouhahaha> E: Invalid operation search
[09:27] <mouhahaha>  (this is what i get)
[09:27] <MadpilotPPC> mouhahaha, ethereal is in Universe - do you have the Universe/Multiverse repositories enabled?
[09:27] <jhiver> MadpilotPPC, thanks I'm sure this will help
[09:27] <_eXoDuS> mouhahaha: apt-cache search
[09:28] <Belutz> hmm there's an update for at driver
[09:29] <MadpilotPPC> !tell mouhahaha about repositories
[09:29] <Belutz> *ati
[09:30] <fek> moin
[09:30] <nrbq> I'm not having much luck with this jre problem
[09:31] <nrbq> must be syntax - can anyone advise?
[09:31] <nrbq> need to install (I think) jre1.5 to run limewire
[09:31] <Venson> how are you installing, nrbq ? apt?
[09:31] <vladuz976> who wrote imlib2 ?
[09:31] <nrbq> yeah, Venson, that's it
[09:32] <Venson> vladuz976: trivia time already? :>
[09:32] <nrbq> Ah, maybe that's where I'm going wrong
[09:32] <Venson> nrbq: so what's the problem? why can't you install it?
[09:32] <nrbq> Just finding apt-get so groovey!
[09:32] <nrbq> Hehe
[09:32] <vladuz976> Venson, yeah
[09:32] <nrbq> It says it can't find it
[09:32] <nrbq> Let me go back to ubuntuguide and run through it again
[09:32] <nrbq> I haven't tried again this morning
[09:33] <tristanmike> !tell nrbq about ubuntuguide
[09:34] <nrbq> tristanmike, thanks, but I know about it
[09:34] <nrbq> :)
[09:34] <nrbq> Just checked it
[09:34] <MadpilotPPC> !+java
[09:34] <ubotu> well, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[09:34] <nrbq> Venson, the error is "E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5"
[09:34] <tristanmike> nrbq, keep the ubuntuguide talk on the down low ;)
[09:34] <tristanmike> lol
[09:35] <nrbq> hehe, ok, I'm with ya!
[09:35] <nrbq> :)
[09:35] <selinium> nrbq: Be careful with Ubuntuguide. :)
[09:35] <tristanmike> on the tuck as I call it
[09:35] <MadpilotPPC> nrbq, there is no such package in any of the Ubuntu repos anymore... see the wiki for how to get Java
[09:35] <nrbq> selinium, why's that?
[09:35] <nrbq> MadpilotPPC, thanks - going there now
[09:35] <mahangu> nrbq, you need to manually install java
[09:35] <mahangu> im doing it right now
[09:36] <mahangu> nrbq, http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[09:36] <selinium> nrbq: They took Java out of the repo.  If you don't know what you are doing you can break your machine.
[09:36] <Venson> is there an install guide for Ubuntu? don't see one on their download page
[09:36] <sexcopter8000m> sorry to sound really dumb, but what does "Breezy Colony 5" mean?
[09:36] <tga> howdy.. I'm having some trouble with my Synaptics touchpad after upgrading to Breezy.. I can't double-click-to-drag anymore
[09:37] <sexcopter8000m> oh, i see there's a link
[09:37] <sexcopter8000m> ignore me :)
[09:37] <tga> make that double-tap-to-drag
[09:37] <MadpilotPPC> Venson, wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - there are a couple of install guides and a lot of post-install guides!
[09:38] <Venson> MadpilotPPC: gotcha...found it. thanks
[09:39] <nrbq> fellas, thanks for all your help. Think I'll go score some toast and coffee
[09:39] <nrbq> Catch up with y'all later
[09:39] <Venson> MadpilotPPC: do you know if there's tools available (as part of the installer) to do non-destructive resize of ntfs drives?
[09:39] <nrbq> peace
[09:39] <tristanmike> peace
[09:40] <ColonelKernel> Venson, qtparted, gparted both work
[09:40] <MadpilotPPC> Venson, I think it'll do that as part of the install, but I'm not sure
[09:40] <Venson> ColonelKernel: are they both non-destructive?
[09:40] <Determinist> sleeping on a chair at work can be so nice sometimes, ya know?
[09:40] <ColonelKernel> Venson, yes, defrag first and MadpilotPPC is correct, the install will do it
[09:40] <Venson> this is crucial as i'll be talking some people into trying out Ubuntu....and i want to give them proper info.
[09:40] <crispynix> ColonelKernel: shouldn't you be KernelColonel? That'd make more sense ;D
[09:40] <Determinist> Venson: lo venson mate, how goes? :)
[09:41] <crispynix> oh wait. only Linus could be that
[09:41] <ColonelKernel> crispynix, the Rank always goes first
[09:41] <Venson> lo Determinist :) .....getting by. and you?
[09:41] <Determinist> Venson: good good :D
[09:41] <crispynix> ColonelKernel: yeah, but KernelColonel actually makes sense, whereas ColonelKernel doesn't.
[09:41] <ColonelKernel> you know, Christopher reeve was fantastic as superman
[09:41] <Venson> Determinist: switched to Ubuntu, have you?
[09:42] <ColonelKernel> crispynix, only if theres some kinda unix army out there - and if that were the case i'd be washin toilets not commanding tropps
[09:42] <ColonelKernel> troops
[09:42] <Determinist> Venson: yes, and loving myself and my computer ever since. it just feels like using an OS that's ready and not an ongoing experiment :)
[09:42] <crispynix> ColonelKernel: rofl
[09:42] <ColonelKernel> :))
[09:42] <ColonelKernel> I would think linux would be the head general
[09:42] <ColonelKernel> and I'd be more like PrivatePoopyPants than ColonelKernel
[09:43] <Determinist> brb, smoke break
[09:43] <ColonelKernel> ops Linus
[09:43] <ColonelKernel> I meant linus
[09:43] <Venson> Determinist: i hear you. i've been frolicking in the goodness of slackware. Might give Ubuntu a try at the end of this year. But before that i'll be sending many of my schoolmates to use it, so i'm mostly researching now and evaluation their help channels
[09:43] <ColonelKernel> im so used to typing linux the word came out automatically
[09:43] <ColonelKernel> lol
[09:43] <Benjamin_L> I created the .xsession file in my home directory but it didn't change a thing. Is there anything in breezy taht overrides my file ?
[09:44] <mahangu> Venson, use parition magic on windows to make the parts
[09:44] <Venson> mahangu: can't afford that. PM isn't free, to my knowledge
[09:44] <TokenBad> for ident for irc what should I apt-get?
[09:44] <Venson> Benjamin_L: what are you trying to do?
[09:44] <mahangu> Venson, mm
[09:45] <Benjamin_L> Venson, I want totry this http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/blog/projects/gnome/1128486649
[09:45] <mahangu> i got the java.bin, how do i make it a deb package?
[09:46] <kemik> !tell mahangu about java
[09:46] <kemik> !tell mahangu about javadeb
[09:46] <tga> !synaptics
[09:46] <ubotu> tga: Are you smoking crack?
[09:46] <Venson> Benjamin_L: you just want to start a bunch of programs when you login?
[09:46] <kemik> mahangu:  read your pm's.. but i'd recommend the .deb install
[09:47] <mahangu> kemik, ok thanks
[09:47] <Benjamin_L> Venson, I'll want to try if this speeds up the login process as they mention
[09:48] <Venson> Benjamin_L: what shell do you use?
[09:48] <Benjamin_L> I'm using default breezy and gnome
[09:49] <Venson> Benjamin_L: actually, nevermind....are you doing this because your current setup is really dog slow?
[09:49] <kikinovak> Hi. I just setup a server with Ubuntu. Installed Lynx to view some html documentation, and it's displayed awkwardly. My install is default utf-8, but what am I supposed to do? reconfigure lynx?
[09:49] <ColonelKernel> you know I wouldnt mind skipping the whole splash screen/pretty sound process either when starting gnome
[09:49] <TokenBad> for ident for irc what should I apt-get?
[09:49] <Benjamin_L> Venson, no, not really, takes around 5-8s to get from gdm to the desktop and this is an amd64 3400+ :)
[09:49] <kemik> kikinovak:  dpkg-reconfigure locales   if you think you need another charset
[09:50] <Venson> Benjamin_L: pretty standard, i'd say
[09:50] <kikinovak> kemik: thanks for the hint... I'll ssh into my server and give it a try
[09:50] <elc16> hello guys can anyone tell me how to share a file or resources to ubuntu or to a windows platform?
[09:50] <seethru> Benjamin_L: thats an interesting hack..
[09:50] <Venson> Benjamin_L: you should know that the processor speed has little to do with how fast your system loads...you need enough RAM and a fast BUS and so on...
[09:51] <Venson> also, 5-8s sounds like a stretch to me. have you actually timed it, Benjamin_L ?
[09:51] <Benjamin_L> Venson, no :)
[09:52] <Venson> thought so :) ....well, good luck in setting that up. i dont know if it really matters....as i login once every two days or so hehe
[09:52] <kemik> im guessing RAM isnt a bottleneck on a amd64... i mean, having less tha 512 or even 1024 on such a system would be weird
[09:53] <kikinovak> kemik: Just gave it a try, chose fr_FR.UTF-8... but still displaying is awkward. Suggestion?
[09:53] <Benjamin_L> I'm using 1GB of RAM so this shouldn't be the problem
[09:53] <ColonelKernel> no use-ah de GUI - no needa da ram
[09:53] <ColonelKernel> my extra box has a gig
[09:53] <kemik> kikinovak:  not really.. but i mean, lynx isnt the best browser out there ;)
[09:53] <ColonelKernel> and this machine has a gig
[09:53] <seethru> Benjamin_L: if you get that working, make sure to post a HOWTO hehe
[09:54] <kikinovak> kemik: it's a server, so it's a minimal 'server' install. no x, no frills, no everything. Just minimal system, cups, apache, ...
[09:54] <Benjamin_L> I just need to get the .xsession recognized by my system ^^
[09:54] <tristanmike> thanx for everything all, good night :)
[09:54] <kemik> kikinovak:  yeah.. try links perhaps?
[09:54] <kemik> kikinovak:  i have it that it's also text-based
[09:55] <kikinovak> kemik: I think it's an encoding issue, not a browser problem
[09:55] <mahangu> kemik, can installing java break my install?
[09:55] <_eXoDuS> mahangu: no
[09:55] <tga> anyone here with a Synaptics touchpad on Hoary?
[09:56] <_eXoDuS> tga i have one in my laptop, no clue if it works by tapping, I always have an usb mouse plugged to it
[09:56] <tga> _eXoDuS: are you on Hoary?
[09:56] <Benjamin_L> should it be .xsession or .Xsession ?
[09:57] <_eXoDuS> tga: no, breezy
[09:57] <_eXoDuS> Benjamin_L: low caps
[09:59] <aftertaf> tga:  i had one with hoary. since use external mouse and breezy..... but it worked on hoary.
[10:00] <bigfoot1> Hello guys, I'm trying to get my Pocket PC working with ubuntu. I'm a newbie. I tried reading some stuff on ubuntu's website, but I'm not sure how to make it work. Can some person with more experience and knowledge lend a hand, please?
[10:01] <mahangu> xmms wont play
[10:01] <mahangu> what's the sound driver i need to set? esound output right
[10:01] <seethru> mahangu: try alsa or oss
[10:02] <mahangu> seethru, oSS freezes, ALSA same problem as esound
[10:02] <mahangu> on my thinkpad r50e, esound worked
[10:02] <mahangu> what does diskwriter do?
[10:02] <mahangu> i tried it and it went on, so i stopped it
[10:02] <mahangu> no sound though
[10:03] <seethru> sound works everywhere else though?
[10:03] <mahangu> seethru, yeah sound works on login etc
[10:04] <mahangu> how can i see if some prog is blocking the card?
[10:05] <Venson> mahangu: fuser
[10:05] <mahangu> Venson, fuser /dev/what
[10:05] <mahangu> works
[10:06] <Venson> mahangu: heh
[10:06] <mahangu> wierd, when i open it through the console it doesnt
[10:06] <mahangu> death cab for cutie!
[10:06] <mahangu> yaya
[10:06] <mahangu> :)
[10:06] <mahangu> off to study, bbl
[10:06] <Trewas> damn, suspend to ram is still broken with my thinkpad, hopefully they'll fix whatever they broke after breezy preview version
[10:07] <Benjamin_L> Trewas, can't even install breezy on my thinkpad :)
[10:07] <mahangu> whoa
[10:07] <mahangu> im staying away from it then :)
[10:07] <mahangu> for now
[10:07] <Benjamin_L> warty works though...
[10:07] <pirre> Benjamin_L: what model?
[10:07] <Benjamin_L> T23
[10:08] <pirre> Benjamin_L: oh, I'm running breezy on my T21
[10:08] <Benjamin_L> install hangs where it checks if image is initramfs
[10:08] <Cashel> howdies.. anyone know what package provides gnome-config in ubuntu breezy's repositories?
[10:08] <pirre> Cashel: use packages.debian.org to locate it, it will most probably be in the ubuntu package with the same name
[10:08] <Cashel> ahhh good idea, thanks
[10:08] <pirre> Benjamin_L: though I started out with warty, then upgraded to hoary and then to breezy
[10:09] <Trewas> installation went very smoothly on this a20p, and everything worked afterwards... but now after a few kernel/acpi-support upgrades it does not wake after suspend-to-ram, hibernate works though
[10:09] <Benjamin_L> pirre, yeah warty works, hoary does not and breezy doesn't either...
[10:09] <pirre> Benjamin_L: okay
[10:09] <eythian> is it possible to add arbitrary folders to the 'Places' menu?
[10:09] <Benjamin_L> it's realy fun dist-upgrading warty to breezy ^^
[10:10] <apokryphos> Benjamin_L: which is explicitly not supported
[10:10] <Benjamin_L> apokryphos, what would you do instead if all you can install is warty ? :)
[10:10] <vbgunz> how do I export my thunderbird and firefox profile from my Windows account to Ubuntu?
[10:10] <Cashel> Anyone know if there is an app that will monitor what packages are being used over a certain period of time, then afterwards telling you which went unused??
[10:10] <apokryphos> Benjamin_L: warty -> hoary -> breezy
[10:10] <Benjamin_L> ah ok, think this is what I did
[10:11] <vbgunz> I tried looking for "export" but could not find it... someone mentioned it is possible but I can't find it...
[10:11] <Benjamin_L> but now I got a new hdd
[10:11] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  search google to find out where both OSs store the profiles, they try just copy/paste
[10:11] <pirre> Cashel: not that I know of. There is "deborphan" that will tell you which packages that no other packages depend upon
[10:12] <Hoxzer> ok....
[10:12] <Hoxzer> can I somehow run ubuntu live CD without xserver?
[10:12] <eythian> Cashel, use 'find' to find things in /bin etc that haven't been accessed for a certain length of time, and then find the packages that own them
[10:13] <fr33mind> Is there a way to have DOS VGA font in gnome-terminal?
[10:13] <vbgunz> aftertaf: I can pretty much move my Thunderbird profile from anywhere to anywhere on Windows... I know how to do that... But it takes a few search and replace lines... Also, I am not sure if Thunderbird will at some point blow a fit when on Linux... iam fearful of losing my email account and profile :(
[10:13] <Cashel> eythian, doesnt work for libs, which is mostly my concern.. I've installed a couple billion trying to get various things to work, lol
[10:14] <Hoxzer> heyyy?
[10:14] <eythian> Cashel, sure it'll work for libs too
[10:14] <pirre> Cashel: if you want to remove unused libs, deborphan is your friend!
[10:14] <Hoxzer> :D I need to setup my grub
[10:14] <Hoxzer> and I can't do it without live CD
[10:14] <Hoxzer> so how can I start it without xserver
[10:14] <fr33mind> I found a way to have DOS VGA font in xterm but not in gnome-terminal at this time... is there a way to have it?
[10:14] <aftertaf> lol vbgunz i live with that fear too :)
[10:14] <Cashel> pirre, see the thing is, they will be considered used by deborphan if something depends on them , even if that something is itself never used :P
[10:14] <fr33mind> I have a font file .pcf
[10:14] <pirre> Cashel: true
[10:14] <Hoxzer> because I have nvidia card that wont work without nvidia drivers and Live CD doesn't include them
[10:15] <Cashel> oh well I have enough HD space... no biggie was just wondering if there was such an app
[10:15] <vbgunz> I'll hopefully figure it out :P
[10:15] <aftertaf> hehe vbgunz cool :)
[10:15] <Cashel> what I realy want to know is why this perl app isnt finding gtk
[10:15] <vbgunz> frigging kills me Thunderbird and Firefox are so popular yet fail to help end users export complete profiles, etc... Thats nuts
[10:15] <Hoxzer> geez I burned live CD for nonthing
[10:17] <Cashel> The_Vox!
[10:17] <Cashel> ltns man
[10:17] <Cashel> <- DrStoney
[10:17] <Cashel> lol
[10:17] <vbgunz> anyone know of a really straight forward search and replace utility that will recurse a directory?
[10:17] <The_Vox> kwira, Cashel :)
[10:17] <Cashel> hows #linuxhelp these days?
[10:17] <kemik> vbgunz:  your .mozilla-thunderbird and .mozilla-firefox directories...
[10:17] <kemik> vbgunz:  in ~/
[10:17] <Hoxzer> eh... :E
[10:17] <benplaut> I have a laptop hooked up to an external moniter. Totem [breezy]  has a nice little splash screen  with a little film real (i think) that appears before you start a movie. For some odd reason, when turning on the laptop with the moniter connected, the splash shows up blank, and the movies work - but with no picture. What the...?
[10:17] <The_Vox> still there, Cashel :)
[10:18] <Cashel> I wouldnt even go to undernet anymore if it wasnt for the fact I op in #bookz :P
[10:18] <Hoxzer> somebody tell me :E
[10:18] <kemik> vbgunz:  search and replace... filenames ?
[10:19] <vbgunz> kemik: I know where the profiles are... I just wish to get my Windows profiles and import them into Ubuntu... Currently I believe it is impossible to export or even import profiles *so* I need to replace Windows paths with Linux paths
[10:19] <Hoxzer> ok, I download knoppix and install grub with that
[10:19] <malv> is updating to breezy a relatively safe bet?
[10:20] <Determinist> malv: not using dist-upgrade, that'll fuck up so many things lol
[10:20] <Hoxzer> can I somehow run live CD with just a command line?
[10:20] <vbgunz> kemik: On windows to move a profile I know exactly what paths to change... *but* I have to do a recursive search and replace across all profile directories... I basically need to recurse all files in those directories and replace Windows paths to Linux paths
[10:20] <malv> i can't resist
[10:20] <kemik> vbgunz:  ahh  i c... thought there would be some export options... at least there are import options :)
[10:20] <eythian> Hoxzer, I'd say so. Have you had a look at the boot options you can give?
[10:21] <kemik> vbgunz:  mmmh i understand.. i would just export contacts/messages and bookmarks... cus im pretty sure that can be done
[10:21] <vbgunz> kemik: Do you know of any search and replace utilities for Linux that will recurse a directory?
[10:21] <kemik> unfortunately no
[10:21] <vbgunz> kemik: the most critical thing in Thunderbird I need to handle is my over 2000 filters :P
[10:21] <Cashel> Anyone here actively involved with breezy's devel?
[10:21] <kemik> spamfilters? ouch
[10:22] <kemik> Cashel:  try #ubuntu-devel
[10:22] <vbgunz> I did it once by hand on Windows and I will never do it again... I have Thunderbird backed up across the board on types of medium cause I will never do it again...
[10:22] <Cashel> ahhh great thanks
[10:23] <malv> so is breezy slower like I've been hearing?
[10:23] <kemik> well, gluck anyway
[10:23] <vbgunz> I can hopefully move those profiles if I just replace the paths correctly, no one have any ideas of any search and replace utilities to recursively go through a directory?
[10:23] <Determinist> malv: aye
[10:23] <malv> =/
[10:23] <malv> ah well, one week away from official release anyways
[10:23] <Cashel> its not slower for me
[10:24] <Determinist> malv: just turn cairo off and it'll go back to being nice and fast tho
[10:24] <malv> Determinist: ok, thanks for the tip
[10:24] <cafuego_> malv: If you don't have a huge amount of ram, yes.
[10:24] <malv> cafuego_:  I have a gig
[10:24] <Hoxzer> eythian: there is only expert and standard mode
[10:24] <Hoxzer> can I recover grub with knoppix?
[10:24] <cafuego_> malv: you'll be fine. though on occasion you may swap a few hundred Mb
[10:24] <ccooke> I've found breezy *much* faster than hoary was.
[10:24] <Determinist> malv: np mate
[10:25] <malv> yea, you never know =). Might be slow for some, faster for others. The new BF2 patch has made everything silky smooth for me, but for everyone else, the opposite
[10:26] <Hoxzer> when the installation askes what resolutions I  wanna use in xserver how can I unselect them?
[10:27] <daejavu> hi .. how do i check where is my Sound Card installed on ? ... /dev/adsp  or where ? cause its not adsp
[10:27] <Gnuclear> i keep getting this msg "User interaction required! A new version of the Linux kernel has just been installed. We strongly  recommend that your machine is restarted as soon as possible to complete the system update." no matter how many times i reboot
[10:27] <Gnuclear> how do i get rid of it?
[10:27] <cafuego_> my laptop is marginally faster under breezy. The improved experience makes yu put up with a fair bit of slowdown, though :-)
[10:27] <malv> daejavu: /dev/dsp exist when oss or alsa oss emulation is enabled
[10:27] <cafuego_> Gnuclear, Click on the lightbulb, click 'ok'.
[10:27] <Gnuclear> >.<
[10:28] <Gnuclear> doh
[10:28] <malv> try modprobe snd-pcm-oss
[10:28] <cafuego_> Gnuclear, no ACTUAL rebooting is required to make it stop whining ;-)
[10:28] <Gnuclear> cafuego - did it over 7 times
[10:28] <daejavu> malv, im trying EnemyTeritory, and theres a problem with sound .. that is no sound ! someone suggested that i should find where is my sound installed andchange the config according to that
[10:30] <daejavu> malv, nothing happens after that ...  modprobe snd-pcm-oss
[10:37] <malv> darn, daejavu left
[10:38] <Hoxzer> YEAH
[10:38] <Hoxzer> :D
[10:38] <Hoxzer> lol
[10:38] <Hoxzer> I almost said "it's working"
[10:38] <Hoxzer> but not
[10:39] <lightstar> anyone here uses shfs by any chance?
[10:39] <crashbox> hey all, i'm trying to install vlc on an amd64 with amd64 version of Ubuntu.  But, i get an error from synaptic saying that wxvlc and vlc are not going to be installed. so, i i tried installing those but i get more errors when trying to install those packages individually.  u can see here at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2783
[10:39] <Hoxzer> I need to reconfigure it :E
[10:41] <malv> crashbox: are you mixing breezy and hoary repositories?
[10:42] <crashbox> i dont thin so, lemme double check
[10:45] <Hoxzer> how can I check if I have /boot/ listing in my fstab?
[10:45] <Vankar> I just installed Ubuntu on my other PC, skipped the Network Configuration during installation. How can i do it now?
[10:45] <joee> hey why do I get /usr/bin/startxfce4: Starting X Server
[10:45] <joee> and /usr/bin/startxfce4: line 45: exec: xinit: not found
[10:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hoxzer: grep boot /etc/fstab
[10:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> Vankar: system -> administration -> networking
[10:46] <Hoxzer> Kamping: I think you need to know i'm running live cd and that doesn't print anything
[10:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> do you have startxfce4 installed?
[10:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, on your hdd?
[10:46] <joee> I got xserver installed andn also xfce4
[10:46] <Ryan_T> Does Ubuntu automatically create partitions when i chose to not start from scratch? Or do i have to already have a partition set up?
[10:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hoxzer: try 'sudo mount /dev/hd? /mnt/ && grep boot /mnt/etc/fstab'
[10:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> Ryan_T: you can create partitions with hte installer
[10:47] <Ryan_T> thanks
[10:47] <Gnuclear> question- so in order to boot to the new kernel do i have to manually edit the menu.1st file?
[10:48] <Vankar> do i need any special configuration for two computers connected directly through a newtwork cable(the one with internet connection runs WinXP)
[10:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> Gnuclear: should do it by default
[10:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> Vankar: make sure the xp box is the gateway
[10:49] <Gnuclear> Kamping_Kaiser - i've clicked that darned notification and rebooted the PC several times...but i am still being asked to reboot using the updated kernel.
[10:49] <Gnuclear> what gives?
[10:49] <jkrogh> I have a few special options in grub's "menu.lst", is there a way to make them survive a kernel-upgrade automatically?
[10:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> Gnuclear: if theres more then one thing on the notificiation doover you need to view them all before it buggers off, otherwise it could be a bug
[10:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> jkrogh: not sure, sorry
[10:51] <Vankar> Kamping_Kaiser: XP is the gateway, but how do it tell Ubuntu that?
[10:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> Vankar: in the network settings tool there should be a way, or edit the config file
[10:52] <Vankar> Kamping_Kaiser: i forgot to mention: I'm a noob, no config editing for me yet
[10:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. thats ok :)
[10:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats why you asked :D
[10:52] <aftertaf> noob!!!! :)
[10:52] <aftertaf> a lot of us are..... ;)
[10:52] <Ryan_T> like me
[10:52] <Kamping_Kaiser>  system -> administration -> networking is the tool your after Vankar
[10:53] <Vankar> under system-> administration there is no network button:S
[10:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> as if i am :P
[10:53] <aftertaf> lol
[10:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> Vankar: right. its there in breezy :|
[10:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyone with hoary who can tell Vankar where it is?
[10:54] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  for this gateway thing, a console method woulf be to set eth0 gateway in /etc/networking/interfaces... right?
[10:54] <eythian> err. In hoary it's also System->Administration->Networking
[10:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: yep
[10:54] <aftertaf> oki.
[10:54] <aftertaf> not too hard... ;)
[10:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[10:55] <mahangu> aftertaf, or just do route add gw xx.xx.xx.xx
[10:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> if your a dhcp client, you have have to change the config to make it rmemember, but you should be ok
[10:55] <aftertaf> mahangu:  ok. would that be persistent?
[10:55] <mahangu> aftertaf, not after startup, but you can write a shellscript that adds it
[10:56] <aftertaf> or put it in if-up.d?
[10:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> or add it to teh config file....
[10:56] <Hendric> does breezy include gnome with cairo????
[10:56] <aftertaf> Hendric:  yep.
[10:56] <aftertaf> 2.12
[10:56] <Hendric> why does it seem so slow on my AMD sempron 2200 + 128MB of RAM
[10:56] <Hoxzer> strange
[10:57] <Hoxzer> can somebody help me to build up grub
[10:57] <mahangu> cairo?
[10:57] <Cashel> what IS cairo anyways?
[10:57] <Hendric> the slowness of gnome is unbearable... opening firefox takes 10 secs
[10:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> probably your ram Hendric, but slow is relative to what your used to :)
[10:57] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  yeah, true......    :) I'm wanting to get a little linux LAN network setup one day to learn all that stuff. only ever done it in Win.
[10:57] <malv> pray for my ubuntu upgrade
[10:57] <mahangu> lol
[10:57] <Hoxzer> it's trying to boot hd0,0 and I want it to boot hd0,1
[10:57] <aftertaf> cairo is a new rendering engine.
[10:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: drop by some time :) ;)
[10:57] <Hoxzer> :D
[10:57] <Hoxzer> lol
[10:57] <Cashel> awww
[10:57] <malv> all these error messages are frightening me
[10:57] <mahangu> Hoxzer, is this /etc/fstab?
[10:57] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  hehe only half aplanet to circumvent
[10:57] <Hendric> can anyone help me with improving speed on my breezy setup??? unbearable lag with gnome :(
[10:58] <Cashel> must be realy amazing, having noticed absolutely no difference between gnome 2.10 and 2.12
[10:58] <Hoxzer> mahangu: dunno but I configured it by the howto
[10:58] <malv> Hendric: disable ciaro
[10:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: thats ok.
[10:58] <Hoxzer> and I used root (hd0,1)
[10:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hoxzer: to change grub ? menu.list
[10:58] <dooglus> Hendric: what does 'top' show is at the top?
[10:58] <aftertaf> malv:  This is an error message. It's purpose is to inorm you, but it can indeed frighten and cause anguish... :)
[10:58] <Hendric> malv, if i do.. i think it will become slower
[10:59] <Hoxzer> Kamping: I just manually recovered my grup and now it doens't boot
[10:59] <malv> aftertaf: eh, i can fix it. I've used gentoo for over a year
[10:59] <Hoxzer> it finds to OS's
[10:59] <Hoxzer> but doesn't start them'
[10:59] <Hendric> dooglus; can you expand
[10:59] <dooglus> Hendric: run a gnome-terminal, and in it, type "top" and hit return
[10:59] <Hendric> dooglus; wait
[10:59] <dooglus> Hendric: it will show the busiest processes on your box in a continually updating display
[11:00] <mahangu> can i suspend x, go to shell and reload it? how?
[11:00] <aftertaf> mahangu:  CTL ALT F1
[11:00] <aftertaf> but it wont suspend.
[11:00] <mahangu> aftertaf, and CTL ALT F1 again brings me back?
[11:00] <aftertaf> mahangu:  nope, CTL F7
[11:01] <aftertaf> X inbackground.
[11:01] <dooglus> mahangu: not CTL F7, ALT F7 to get back
[11:01] <aftertaf> crap!
[11:01] <aftertaf> thx dooglus
[11:01] <Hoxzer> ok, when I try to configure grub with command: root (hd0,2) it says "Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83"
[11:01] <Hoxzer> then I use command setup (hd0)
[11:01] <dooglus> mahangu: you can go to 6 different shells - with Ctl-Alt-F1 through Ctl-Alt-F6
[11:02] <defsy> hi, today reportedly the CUPS and local network (normally via statically assigned eth0) stopped working at home :( As I am remote, I can't tell you a lot... only that my gateway says: "eth0: Setting 100mbps full-duplex based on auto-negotiated partner ability 41e1." which looks rather normal :S Any ideas I could carry out telling my mom what to do...? ;)
[11:02] <Hendric> dooglus; it says tasks 78 etc...
[11:02] <dooglus> mahangu: once you've 'escaped' X, all you need is Alt-F1, Alt-F2, etc.
[11:02] <Determinist> Venson: you still about?
[11:02] <aftertaf> lol defsy :)
[11:02] <Venson> Determinist: what's up?
[11:02] <Hoxzer> :D
[11:02] <Determinist> Venson: sorry for going poof on you earlier
[11:02] <BockBilbo> Seveas, why did u kicked me from ubuntu-unregged?
[11:02] <dooglus> Hendric: the 7th line is mostly white, and under there is the top process.  what is its 'COMMAND' and '%CPU'?
[11:02] <Venson> Determinist: thats alright
[11:02] <Hoxzer> now somebody help me with grub
[11:02] <Hoxzer> in private chat
[11:02] <lastnode> hey altertaf, how do i get back in to X?
[11:03] <BockBilbo> i was helping that guy out
[11:03] <lastnode> :)
[11:03] <Seveas> BockBilbo, because that channel should be empty, read the kickmsg
[11:03] <aftertaf> lastnode:  alt + F7
[11:03] <Hoxzer> its trying to moun hd0,0 when I start and I want it to mount hd0,1
[11:03] <mahangu> hehe
[11:03] <BockBilbo> Seveas, ok.
[11:03] <Determinist> Venson: no more FC3-4 for you?
[11:03] <aftertaf> hehe :)
[11:03] <Venson> Determinist: not since Jan this year
[11:03] <Determinist> Venson: ah, got tired of that OS after a while, so many things simply not fitting
[11:04] <Hoxzer> how can I choose what hdd does grub moun when it's trying to boot linux?
[11:04] <mahangu> man shells rock
[11:04] <lastnode> woo
[11:04] <lastnode> ok ok i stop
[11:04] <Venson> Determinist: *nod* ....i wanted something with a longer release schedule that was also stabler and feature-filled......i stuck with Slackware
[11:04] <Hoxzer> lol ->
[11:05] <Determinist> Venson: how's that working for you?
[11:05] <defsy> Hoxzer: under /boot/grub/ might be a menu.lst (see man menu.lst) ... never tried it on ubuntu, though.
[11:05] <mahangu> anybody here got a console mail reader to work with gmail?
[11:05] <Determinist> where's that automount script for fat32 partitions/
[11:05] <Venson> Determinist: pretty good, actually. I like it much. Might try something else because i'm getting all rusty about configuring my system. I don't seem to do much lately, because my system is just set up the way i want it
[11:05] <mahangu> Determinist, just put them in /etc/fstab
[11:06] <Determinist> mahangu: i know , i just wanted that script that auto does that for you, cant be arsed :P
[11:06] <mahangu> /dev/hdax /mnt/point vfat defaults,umask=0 0 0
[11:06] <dooglus> Hendric, did you get lost?
[11:06] <mahangu> determinist, it's just once, right?
[11:06] <Determinist> mahangu: right
[11:06] <dooglus> mahangu: what's your fave console mail reader?
[11:06] <lastnode> dooglus: i dunno, ive never tried one
[11:07] <lastnode> heh, sorry about the confusion, i jumped back to console
[11:07] <dooglus> lastnode: do you use irssi?
[11:07] <defsy> dooglus: sylpheed-claws with that gtk-to-ncurses-lib ;) SCNR
[11:07] <aftertaf> lastnode has gone schizo on us :)
[11:07] <lastnode> dooglus: atm yeah im using it
[11:07] <lastnode> aftertaf: you have no idea mate
[11:07] <Ryan_T> Did anyone use "Toast Titanium" to burn their CD?
[11:07] <lastnode> :)
[11:07] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:07] <Hendric> dooglus, someones using it... typing something important.. can you wait for a while?
[11:08] <dooglus> lastnode: if you run irssi inside 'screen' then you can take it back and forth between the console and GNOME
[11:08] <lastnode> i talk to my laptop sometimes, i call her arwen
[11:08] <lastnode> dooglus: how can i do that?
[11:08] <lastnode> screen irss?
[11:08] <lastnode> scrn irssi?
[11:08] <dooglus> Hendric: dure
[11:08] <dooglus> lastnode, just "screen".  you'll get a command prompt.  run anything you like.
[11:08] <Venson> lastnode: keep your hands where i can see them...and slowly move away from the laptop....no one's going to hurt you
[11:08] <lastnode> Venson: really? why not? im like into BDSM and shit
[11:08] <lastnode> :P
[11:08] <dooglus> then, switch to (X / the console) and type "screen -d -r"
[11:09] <Venson> lastnode: yeah...but laptop abuse is just not tolerated :P
[11:09] <dooglus> that will detach the screen from where you were, and reattach it where you are.
[11:09] <aftertaf> screen pwns
[11:09] <lastnode> Venson: she's MY laptop
[11:09] <lastnode> dooglus, how can i get it to work in console?
[11:09] <lastnode> exit
[11:09] <lastnode> fark
[11:09] <lastnode> lol
[11:09] <dooglus> you can even do stuff like start a build running at work, then go home, dial in and reattach to the screen you were building in to see how it went
[11:09] <dooglus> lastnode: it just works - it's a console app
[11:10] <aftertaf> lastnode:  search gnu screen gems in google.......
[11:10] <malv> i like the new background in breezy
[11:10] <malv> very awesome
[11:11] <lastnode> shoot, i forget how to kill irssi
[11:11] <lastnode> :)
[11:11] <dooglus> /quit
[11:11] <lastnode> oh how stupid of me
[11:11] <mouhahaha> i hibernated ubuntu  now i got it running back but my usb mouse and its not working, is there a command that'll make it work ?
[11:11] <aftertaf> looooooooool
[11:12] <Hoxzer> This is like killing meee....
[11:12] <aftertaf> mouhahaha:  if you unplug and plugin again?
[11:12] <Hoxzer> I will never again install linux and
[11:12] <Hoxzer> windows into same hdd
[11:12] <defsy> Hoxzer: have you tried LILO yet?
[11:12] <lastnode> back
[11:12] <Hoxzer> what is lilo :D
[11:12] <malv> Hoxzer: should read up on grub
[11:12] <lastnode> now how do i do screen?
[11:13] <Ryan_T> where can i host my own irc server?
[11:13] <Hoxzer> malv: I have read everything
[11:13] <aftertaf> lastnode:  screen -x
[11:13] <defsy> Hoxzer: a different bootloader that is in some ways a bit more restricted but in other ways easier to work with *g*
[11:13] <aftertaf> or   lastnode:  screen -r
[11:13] <lastnode> aftertaf: while in irssi? no right? how do i switch back to the command line?
[11:14] <crashbox> hey all, i'm trying to install vlc on an amd64 with amd64 version of Ubuntu.  But, i get an error from synaptic saying that wxvlc and vlc are not going to be installed. so, i i tried installing those but i get more errors when trying to install those packages individually.  u can see here at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2783 and i'm not using any hoary reps, i check the source.list file.
[11:14] <aftertaf> hehe... CTL + A   is the basis of all hotkeys in screen
[11:14] <dooglus> is there a bugzilla for multiverse?
[11:14] <malv> so will a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade kill my breezy upgrade?
[11:14] <lastnode> dooglus: eh?
[11:14] <aftertaf> CTL A C adds a new screen to your screen.... CTL+A then C
[11:15] <ccooke> malv: is there one going on?
[11:15] <dooglus> like where should bugs in multiverse packages go?
[11:15] <ccooke> malv: if so, the apt-get will just refuse to work
[11:15] <malv> ccooke: about to initiate one
[11:15] <aftertaf> lastnode:  CTL A N  or CTL A P   to switch between
[11:15] <ccooke> malv: the update manager *does* a dist-upgrade
[11:15] <lastnode> aftertaf: im confused
[11:15] <malv> ccooke: says there is a problem that dist upgrade should fix
[11:16] <ccooke> malv: ah, I see.
[11:16] <malv> ccooke: basically a bagillion packages didn't get installed
[11:16] <ccooke> malv: quite the update, then run dist-upgrade.
[11:16] <ccooke> malv: er. quit.
[11:17] <jip> hi. how can i change xmms' menu font? changing gtk-theme wont do any good
[11:18] <deFrysk> jip, try beep-media-player its a xmms-clone and gtk2
[11:18] <defsy> jip: have you tried in the preferences, last tab?
[11:20] <jip> defsy, i don't mean the playlist. i'm talking about menus
[11:21] <Ryan_T> If i install Ubuntu without erasing my hard-drive, will it automatically create a partition? or do i have to have one already made?
[11:21] <jip> deFrysk, i just installed it, but it's commandline?
[11:22] <mylastmorning> hey
[11:22] <mylastmorning> how do you search for a specific file?
[11:22] <jip> locate or find
[11:22] <mylastmorning> eather.
[11:23] <Ryan_T> im still liking for an aswer
[11:23] <Hendric> dooglus; top says... %CPU = 2.0, COMMAND = xorg, %MEM = 9.2
[11:23] <mylastmorning> jip, I want to find all .wad files.
[11:23] <Vankar> I cannot find the Networking pannel under system->administration
[11:23] <Hendric> do you need every "COMMAND" data?
[11:23] <Nvidiot> mylastmorning: locate *wad
[11:25] <defsy> jip: IIRC that's all xmms-themes then :S
[11:26] <lastnode> ok i go shower and brb
[11:27] <Hendric> can anyone help me how to speedup my ubuntu system??? i got AMD sempron 2200 + 128MB and i don't know why its seems so slow on ubuntu
[11:27] <jip> defsy :P
[11:27] <Hoxzer> can somebody help me to setup grub?
[11:28] <deFrysk> Hendric, 128 is kinda low on ram
[11:28] <ompaul> Hoxzer, tell more, I may or may not be the person to help, so don't address me, tell all about the issues you have in one line :)
[11:28] <Hendric> 128MB on XP is blazing fast...
[11:28] <Severian> Hendric.  Sure, there are several things.
[11:29] <deFrysk> Hendric, is it now
[11:30] <Severian> Hendric, Here are two things to start. 1 install the 686 kernel.  2. Remove several virtual consoles.
[11:30] <jedrick> i try to install speedtouch dsl modem and i got this error. " need to install gcc " where can i get gcc?
[11:30] <deFrysk> xp gets very slow when all scanners and stuff is up is my experience
[11:30] <Hendric> 686 kernel?? how can i do that sir?
[11:30] <Nvidiot> jedrick: you need to grab the compiler package
[11:30] <jedrick> how?
[11:30] <Severian> Synaptic has the 686 kernel.  Just search for 686.
[11:30] <Nvidiot> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:31] <Nvidiot> (or use Synaptic)
[11:31] <Hendric> with virtual consoles, are you referring to workspaces?? i removed them already and made it 1
[11:31] <jedrick> im new to linux im not familiar with that stuff
[11:31] <Severian> It is called linux-686 in Synaptic.
[11:31] <Hendric> Severian; should i remove 386 kernel??/
[11:31] <Nvidiot> jedrick: you should install software via Synaptic, not compile it manually
[11:32] <jedrick> how?
[11:32] <Nvidiot> jedrick: system -> administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[11:33] <jedrick> then?
[11:33] <Nvidiot> jedrick: the driver for your dsl modem may be in there as well
[11:33] <Severian> The virtual console are the full screen terminal windows you go to by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1, for example.  The default install has more virtual console than most anyone needs and they each take memory.
[11:33] <jedrick> you mean i can find the gcc in the synaptic pachage manager?
[11:33] <lastnode> jedrick: yes
[11:33] <hyphenated> these days, the 'redundant' ones are just placeholders, otherwise X wouldn't get the 7th spot, and people would get confused about where to switch back to
[11:33] <Nvidiot> jedrick: yes, search for build-essential
[11:34] <Severian> Hendric, no.  Don't remove the 386 kernel.  When you install the 686 kernel, grub is updated to boot to it anyway.
[11:34] <Nvidiot> jedrick: also, try searching for the speedtouch dsl driver, it may be in there
[11:34] <Vankar> Looks like ubutu didn't install my Netowrk driver, when i try to install it through Add/Remove software it tries to download it. but no network=no download
[11:34] <jedrick> ok thnx a lot
[11:34] <jedrick> i try
[11:34] <defsy> damn :( today is a very bad day. Now firefox doesn't start but SEGFAULTS :( What was the command to wrap a program and get it's library and syscall access printed?
[11:34] <Nvidiot> systrace ?
[11:34] <hyphenated> defsy: strace
[11:34] <defsy> thanks :D
[11:34] <hyphenated> defsy: but that won't tell you too much. run it in gdb instead
[11:35] <hyphenated> (crashes rarely happen inside a syscall)
[11:35] <Hendric> Severian, i tried the virtual consoles... im on a login prompt.. how can i get back to my desktop???
[11:35] <hyphenated> Hendric: ctrl+alt+f7
[11:36] <Hendric> Severian; and how can i remove other virtual consoles.. and leave it as 1
[11:36] <Severian> To remove a few virtual consoles, edit /etc/inittab  Look for lines that look like    2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
[11:36] <Severian> Ctrl-Alt-F7 is X
[11:36] <hyphenated> but it won't be if you remove a few
[11:36] <Hendric> is it safe to remove all.. and only have 1 console???
[11:37] <aftertaf> Hendric:  no use. keep all
[11:37] <aftertaf> they dont bother you being there..... better keeping them.
[11:37] <Hendric> aftertaf; i need to increase speed
[11:37] <deFrysk> Hendric, by ram
[11:37] <Hendric> gnome is so slow on my system.. and it's unbearable.. firefox loads for around 15-20 secs
[11:37] <aftertaf> ok.... but i doubt those idle processes qre using your resources
[11:37] <deFrysk> 128 is pretty low
[11:38] <aftertaf> Hendric:  try kde.
[11:38] <Severian> Yes it will, depending on how you do it.  I change the lines in inittab to start virtual consoles 2 through 6 in run level 2 and 3, and not 4 and 5.  7 stays the console for x.
[11:38] <aftertaf> it works well on low mem machines.
[11:38] <Hendric> aftertaf, im on ubuntu
[11:38] <aftertaf> and......
[11:38] <Vankar> My ubuntu can't access the CDROM or Desktop in X, and i'm not familiar with the Terminal commands
[11:38] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop
[11:38] <Severian> Hendric, how much memory do you have?
[11:38] <deFrysk> he has 128
[11:38] <deFrysk> too low
[11:38] <lastnode> aftertaf: im in screen now
[11:39] <Hendric> i have 128MB DDR400 with AMD sempron 2200 which is super fast in windows
[11:39] <aftertaf> yeah :)
[11:39] <lastnode> but screen -r in x gives me nothing
[11:39] <aftertaf> and screen -x ?
[11:39] <lastnode> nothing
[11:39] <lastnode> just checked
[11:39] <aftertaf> weird....
[11:39] <lastnode> heh,
[11:39] <aftertaf> check that liknk i sent you.
[11:39] <aftertaf> http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/06/unix_gems.html
[11:39] <lastnode> thanks will check
[11:39] <Severian> That is not really enough.  Ubuntu is a great distro, but not what I would choose for a low memory system like that.  Hendric, can you get it to 256 meg?  You will be much happier with it.
[11:40] <deFrysk> Hendric, als xfce4 would run faster as it rquires 64 meg ram
[11:40] <deFrysk> also*
[11:40] <Hendric> Severian; i have another unit here with 396MB mem.. with 128MBVRAM... p42.8, but gnome is a bit slower still.. even with nvidia-glx
[11:41] <Hendric> i tried xfce4 on this unit.. got the same result.. although a lil bit faster than gnome
[11:41] <aftertaf> id try kde if your disk isnt full.... see if you find it faster
[11:41] <Hendric> i tried doing server install then xfce4 but still slow
[11:41] <aftertaf> but 128mb is a bottleneck, for sure
[11:41] <Severian> Hendic, with that kind of system, consider adding at least another 256 meg.  I like my systems with 384 meg.  I have a few with 192 meg and they swap too much for me.  The 384 meg systems only swap when I get Firefox really loaded up with lots of tabs.
[11:41] <deFrysk> Hendric, my advice is get ram , its value for speed and a relative low investment
[11:42] <Severian> Hendric, is that system near you now and running?
[11:42] <deFrysk> Hendric, i have an xp2200 with 256 ram and it works ok
[11:42] <Hendric> i have all the system here in my room
[11:42] <Nvidiot> lol, nice screensaver, the flying toasters & toast one
[11:42] <deFrysk> planning to get more tho ;)
[11:43] <crashbox> hey all, i'm trying to install vlc on an amd64 with amd64 version of Ubuntu.  But, i get an error from synaptic saying that wxvlc and vlc are not going to be installed. so, i i tried installing those but i get more errors when trying to install those packages individually.  u can see here at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2783 and i'm not using any hoary reps, i checked the source.list file.
[11:43] <aftertaf> duron 1.8G with 512 SDR runs lovely
[11:43] <Severian> Go to the sysystem you think is slow.  Either one.  Bring up a terminal window and type   top
[11:43] <aftertaf> PIII 500 with 256 too :)
[11:43] <deFrysk> Hendric, also using opera it an (ugly) option
[11:43] <Severian> Hendic, that will show you how much memory is in use and by what processes.
[11:44] <deFrysk> opera has a lower startup time
[11:44] <Hendric> Severian; wait.. should i paste the result??
[11:44] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[11:44] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:44] <aftertaf> Hendric:  ^^^^^^^
[11:45] <Severian> No  Just tell me what it says on the line that starts with Mem.
[11:45] <lastnode> aftertaf: ill get down to it later
[11:45] <lastnode> back to studying now
[11:45] <lastnode> gotta apt-get tuxracer and tuxkart too
[11:45] <aftertaf> hehe ok
[11:45] <aftertaf> that is studying :)
[11:45] <lastnode> any other games you'd recommend?
[11:45] <aftertaf> supertux
[11:45] <deFrysk> njam
[11:45] <lastnode> aftertaf: i wish it was true
[11:45] <ompaul> frozen bubble
[11:45] <aftertaf> !info njam
[11:45] <lastnode> deFrysk: what does njam do?
[11:45] <lastnode> right there we go
[11:45] <lastnode> i love the console, it's so sweet
[11:45] <deFrysk> a pacman clone , but a good one
[11:46] <ompaul> game of massive addiction  frozen bubble
[11:46] <aftertaf> hehe console pwns
[11:46] <aftertaf> ompaul:  gonna apt-get after todas update :)
[11:46] <Nvidiot> tuxcart isn't in the package management
[11:46] <lastnode> anyway to get irssi to use proxies?
[11:46] <Severian> Hendic, top will update every couple of seconds.  To quit it, just type the letter q
[11:46] <lastnode> i just apt-getted tor
[11:46] <Nvidiot> at least, here it's not
[11:46] <Hendric> Severian; MEM: 132000+kb total and 105000kb used...
[11:47] <ompaul> aftertaf, frozen bubble is not work safe - it requires a full screen display, it requires attention, it is in a word mad
[11:47] <Severian> Hendric, and the next line.  The one that starts with Swap.
[11:47] <aftertaf> ompaul:  in fact doing it now thru screen & ssh to a 2nd pc, then ill export display to this one :)
[11:47] <deFrysk> one thing Hendric if you use azureus it might be the reason things slow down
[11:47] <ompaul> aftertaf, it has a lot music with it - the kind to driver non players insane
[11:47] <dooglus> Hendric: if the top process is only using 2% then it's probably not a CPU issue.
[11:47] <Vankar> What's the best Linux BT client? I use Azureus on windows
[11:47] <BockBilbo> can anyone tell me if there is a list of compatible tv capturers for ubuntu?
[11:47] <Hendric> swap is 331000K+ total 71000K+ used
[11:48] <dooglus> Hendric: see on line 3, it says "id"?  what's the number before that?  that's the CPU idle percentage
[11:48] <dooglus> Vankar: I use azureus on ubuntu
[11:48] <Hendric> BockBilbo: my playtvpro works well with ubuntu... sane is even detecting it as a scanner.. lolx
[11:48] <ompaul> Vankar, that is a java dependant tool - personally there is a default bittorrent client that does the job gnome-btdownload not half as on screen and in your face
[11:49] <aftertaf> ompaul:  im by myself in the office :)
[11:49] <Severian> Hendic, That is not too bad.  That tells you that going to 192 meg of ram with you currently running applications would have almost no swapping.  A little swapping is not noticable.
[11:49] <ompaul> aftertaf, turn them speakers up
[11:49] <deFrysk> java apps are resource hogs
[11:49] <ompaul> :)
[11:49] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:49] <Hendric> dooglus: my ID says.. 96.7%
[11:49] <BockBilbo> Hendric, is it expensive?
[11:49] <dooglus> I don't think gnome-btdownload discovers hosts as well as azureus, does it?  I think it only uses one tracker per torrent
[11:50] <Hendric> BockBilbo: i bought it for $50
[11:50] <BockBilbo> mmm
[11:50] <dooglus> Hendric: there's no problem with CPU then.  Your box is mostly idle.  Is it going slow at the moment?
[11:50] <Hendric> dooglus: it is.. even by just switching from firefox to synaptic
[11:50] <Hendric> takes 5 sec to load
[11:50] <Severian> Hendric, next, there is a line that starts with Cpu.  What is the percentage before id
[11:50] <dooglus> Hendric: is the disk light on all the time?
[11:51] <dooglus> Severian: I asked that.  It's 96% idle
[11:51] <Hendric> dooglus: the disk lights up if i click or open something... but not all the time
[11:51] <dooglus> Hendric: in the 5 seconds when you switch between apps - is the disk busy all the time then?
[11:51] <ompaul> free?
[11:51] <Hendric> dooglus: indeed busy
[11:52] <dooglus> Hendric: sounds like you're out of memory, and the delays are caused by swapping.
[11:52] <Hendric> switching between windows causes swapping? firefox and synaptics
[11:52] <ompaul> Hendric, type free and how much swap (the bottom line) is free
[11:52] <ColonelKernel> firefox loves memory
[11:53] <ompaul> ColonelKernel, understatement, it is the programming embodyment of memory
[11:53] <Hendric> openoffice takes almost a minute to load..
[11:53] <dooglus> it doesn't matter how much swap is free, really...  it's how much swapping is actively happening that matters
[11:53] <Severian> Hendric, it sounds like that to me.  Anothe 64 meg might even help, based on the numbers you gave earlier.  Do you have any spare memory?
[11:53] <Determinist> what's this /debootstrap dir on my root? didnt appear back when i used hoary
[11:53] <Hendric> i have another spare memory... i'll try this other 128MB
[11:54] <dooglus> Hendric: if both apps can't fit in memory at the same time, then which ever one you switch to has to wait to be loaded out of swap and into ram before it can run
[11:54] <ColonelKernel> Hendric, sounds like its time for a trip to newegg,com
[11:54] <Severian> Hendic, are you going to install it now.  I'll wait, if you are.
[11:55] <Hendric> i'll install it now... wait a sec... shutting ubuntu
[11:55] <BockBilbo> does the sound of the flash plugin work for you guys in hoary after doing the symlink trick?
[11:55] <Tzi> Hey =)
[11:55] <BockBilbo> (it doesnt for me :S)
[11:56] <brownie17> can someone tell me what a "debian woody" package is?
[11:56] <Severian> Whoever mentioned beep-media-player earlier, thanks.  That seems to work nicely.
[11:56] <deFrysk> BockBilbo, unfortunately it does work here
[11:56] <Hendric> OMG.. even the logout effect is slow.. lolx
[11:56] <BockBilbo> deFrysk, do you use breezy?
[11:56] <Tzi> Anyone know why sudo might freeze?  ifconfig seems to freeze too..
[11:56] <Tzi> I installed vmware, and it all stopped working
[11:56] <dooglus> brownie17: debian names its releases after 'toy story' characters, like ubuntu uses animal names
[11:56] <lastnode> anyone here used/uses tor?
[11:56] <deFrysk> BockBilbo, yes
[11:56] <BockBilbo> my bad.. i meant breezy instead of hoary...
[11:56] <dooglus> brownie17: woody came before sarge
[11:57] <Hendric> if this is a memory issue.. why do i get the same result with xfce///
[11:57] <brownie17> dooglus, hahaha. how long has debian been around? i thought it would be much older than toy story. that came out when i was a kid
[11:57] <LoRe> lastnode: i'm using it
[11:57] <Severian> Tzi, well a filesystem in your path being offline could do it.
[11:57] <ompaul> Hendric, the apps you spoke of are hungry very very hungry
[11:57] <brownie17> dooglus, so how old is woody? will it work on ubuntu hoary hedgehog?
[11:57] <lastnode> LoRe: i set localhost 9050 in xchat
[11:57] <dooglus> brownie17: toy story is quite an old film
[11:57] <lastnode> and it tries to connect to freenode:9050
[11:57] <Tzi> Severian: hmm, yeah, seen that before too.. That's not happening this time though =)
[11:57] <BockBilbo> deFrysk, mmm it doesnt work for me.. what did you do? sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1 ???
[11:57] <dooglus> brownie17: woody is a version of debian, hoary is a version of ubuntu...  you can't run one on the other.
[11:58] <deFrysk> BockBilbo, i did what the wiki told me to do, I hardly remember
[11:58] <deFrysk> BockBilbo, but it worked
[11:58] <LoRe> lastnode: well, i don't use xchat :)
[11:58] <lastnode> LoRe: IRSSI?
[11:58] <brownie17> dooglus, sorry, my question was wrong. will a file designed for woody work on hoary?
[11:58] <BockBilbo> mmm it worked for me in hoary, but doesnt on breezy
[11:58] <lastnode> LoRe: how do you set proxies in that?
[11:59] <deFrysk> new kernel in breezy, reboot
[11:59] <LoRe> lastnode: torify irssi
[11:59] <iru> brownie: it may or may not work and it is advised to assume it won't work
[11:59] <LoRe> lastnode: you need tsocks to get torify to work
[11:59] <Tzi> ifconfig freezes on 'ioctl(4, SIOCGIFCONF, {', where 4 is bound to socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_IP)
[12:00] <Hendric> Severian: the kernel-686 did improved the speed alittle... then i tried with 256MB and got a little improvement too... apps still loads so slow even the terminal
[12:00] <bigfoot1> hi guys, I'm a newbie into linux. I'm trying to sync my pocket pc PDA with ubuntu, and i'm using this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936 . I am in the 2nd part "Synce Setup and Configuration". On a previous day, I have already run the first command  in this section (apt-getting required files), so "synce-serial setup" was not invoked by apt. How could i invoke synce-serial setup? Do i have to delete and then reinstall the
[12:00] <bigfoot1> files?
[12:00] <dooglus> brownie17: maybe.  I don't know...
[12:00] <brownie17> iru, dooglus, well... i want to download "dosbox" for linux. the closest option i can find is debian. there are susie packages and the like
[12:00] <lastnode> LoRe: apt-get tsocks?
[12:00] <Determinist> brownie17: file? what type of file and are you sure you're not meaning package?
[12:00] <dooglus> brownie17: there's no guarantee that it will.
[12:00] <Hendric> dooglus, Severian: the kernel-686 did improved the speed alittle... then i tried with 256MB and got a little improvement too... apps still loads so slow even the terminal!
[12:00] <dooglus> brownie17: you can get dosbox for breezy
[12:01] <iru> brownie: get the source and compile it
[12:01] <dooglus> pool/universe/d/dosbox/dosbox_0.63-2_i386.deb
[12:01] <Severian> Henric, run top and see if you are swapping now.  Leave it running while you switch between apps.
[12:01] <Hendric> i'll try the virtual console killing... how can i do that?
[12:01] <LoRe> lastnode: apt-get install tsocks
[12:01] <Severian> Hendic, edit the file   /etc/inittab
[12:01] <dooglus> Hendic, copy and paste this into a terminal.  what do you see?
[12:01] <dooglus> echo $(ps -lef | sort +9nr | head -5 | awk '{print $15, $10}' | sed 's![^ ] */!!')
[12:02] <Determinist> iru: compiling may be fine and dandy, but go keep track of the things you compile and place in the system. what happens when you want to remove them? what happens if they required dependencies and you just found yourself with a buncha libs you dont need anymore?
[12:02] <iru> doog: holy crap, you just type all that out ? amazing
[12:02] <Hendric> wait i'll open irc on ubuntu
[12:02] <Severian> Hendic, look for a series of lines that look like    2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
[12:02] <iru> determ: yup, if available, use the package first :)
[12:03] <brownie17> Determinist, i am meaning package. apologies. dooglus allrighty then, looks like im waiting another 13 days then!
[12:03] <Determinist> iru: that ... or compile, then create a deb :)
[12:03] <bigfoot1> to anybody: I did an apt-get for a package called synce-serial. How do i invoke the setup for this?
[12:03] <aftertaf> dpkg-reconfigure
[12:03] <iru> brown : why wait another 13 days?
[12:03] <bigfoot1> aftertaf, you talking tho me?
[12:03] <bigfoot1> to me?
[12:03] <Severian> Hendic, your lines will have a 4 and a 5 after the 2 and the 3.
[12:04] <brownie17> iru, for breezy
[12:04] <Hendric> so what will i change Severian??
[12:04] <aftertaf> sorry bigfoot1 yes... :)
[12:04] <dooglus> brownie17: it's available for hoary too: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/otherosfs/dosbox
[12:04] <aftertaf> sudo dpkg-reconfigure synce-serial
[12:04] <bigfoot1> aftertaf, thank you.
[12:04] <Severian> I suggest removing the 4 and the 5 for tty 2 through tty6
[12:04] <aftertaf> ;)
[12:04] <larsrohdin> hi, i managed to install, and play max payne1 with cedega. but the sound is all crappy, what can it be?
[12:05] <bigfoot1> aftertaf, thanks for that.
[12:05] <dooglus> brownie17: it's in universe - so you'll have to enable the universe repository.
[12:05] <iru> brown : configure your /etc/apt/sources to use universe
[12:05] <aftertaf> np bigfoot1
[12:05] <Severian> Hendric, do you understand what I mean or should I paste examples?
[12:05] <bigfoot1> aftertaf, i assume you also have a pocket pc, no?
[12:05] <aftertaf> nope ;)... but i know about dpkg a little
[12:05] <iru> brown : then apt-get update
[12:06] <lastnode> tor tells me /var/lib/tor is not owned  by my UID
[12:06] <lastnode> ive chowned it
[12:06] <lastnode> what else can i d?>
[12:06] <dooglus> Severian: those 'getty' processes use less than 1Mb each, don't they?
[12:06] <lastnode> *do?
[12:06] <Severian> Hendric, some people just comment the lines out.  But, I like to still have lots of virtual consoles if I switch to run level 3.
[12:07] <dooglus> Severian: run level 3 doesn't have gdm?
[12:07] <Hendric2> dooglus, gnome-terminal 9140 gnome-cups-icon 9100 nautilus 7033 xchat 6333 X 5165 <-- result
[12:07] <dooglus> Hendric2: those are sizes in - um - not sure...  :)
[12:07] <dooglus> Hendric2: but you don't have anything big running.
[12:07] <Severian> dooglus.  I think it is a bit more than that..  But not much.  I think I save 10 meg or so getting rid of 5 virtual consoles.
[12:07] <Hendric2> Severian, what will i change to kill the virtual consoles?? im on ubuntu
[12:07] <bigfoot1> to anyone: how do i know what tty/usb my pocketpc is running? is there a command i can run to find out?
[12:08] <dooglus> Hendric2: "sudo gedit /etc/inittab"
[12:08] <Severian> Hendric2, did you edit the /etc/inittab file?  If so, just reboot.
[12:08] <dooglus> Hendric2: comment out the 'getty' lines in there
[12:08] <Hendric2> the 686 relly improves
[12:08] <leagris> bigbootay, usbview
[12:08] <Hendric2> *really
[12:09] <Trashie> hey... is it okey to ask questions here?
[12:09] <dooglus> Hendric2: how much RAM do you have total?
[12:09] <dooglus> Trashie: if it isn't, you're in trouble already!
[12:09] <Trashie> hehe :)
[12:09] <ompaul> !tell Trashie about ask
[12:09] <Hendric2> i got 128 still.. coz the 256MB doesn't improve much
[12:09] <larsrohdin> Trashie, no=)
[12:10] <Severian> dooglus, I don't know if gdm is running or not in run level 3.  I assume so, but I have not checked.  Why do you ask?
[12:10] <dooglus> Hendric2: I have 386 and it runs just fine.  are you adding an extra 256 to make 384?  or switching between 128 and 256?
[12:10] <Hendric2> switching between 256 and 128
[12:10] <dooglus> Severian: you said about swithing to runlevel 3 to use the consoles - that confused me.
[12:10] <Hendric2> my other PC can't run if i use all the RAM here...
[12:10] <dooglus> Severian: wouldn't you just hit Ctl-Alt-F1 or something, rather than switching runlevels?
[12:10] <bigfoot1> to anyone. I ran "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices". Will that tell me what tty/usb my pocketpc is on? The output for it is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2788. Please have a look. It's rather short.
[12:10] <dooglus> Hendric2: oh, I see...
[12:11] <larsrohdin> I get crappy sound when playing max payne on cedega... can someone help me?
[12:11] <Hendric2> Severian, im on "nano inittab" what will i change here??
[12:11] <Hendric2> i found the respawn thing
[12:11] <dooglus> Trashie: just ask your question!
[12:11] <dooglus> Hendric2: comment the lines that start 2:, 3:, .. up to 6:...  just leave the 1: line
[12:11] <Jedrick> i install the gcc and when i try to install the speedtouch modem driver i got this error. " the kernel speedtch module is loades. this is not compatible with the speedtouch usermode driver. " how to install my modem?
[12:11] <cafuego_> bigfoot1: There is only once device there, and that's your ipaq.
[12:11] <Hendric2> ok ok
[12:11] <dooglus> Hendric2: unless you need more than one virtual console - it's unlikely
[12:11] <brownie17> someone told me there are specific installs for 686 as compared to x86. is this true for breezy only? how cna i find out which one i am using? how can i upgrade to 686 (i THINK i am using x86)? does that require a complete new install?
[12:12] <Trashie> oki.. i'm running ubuntu on a Toshiba Satellite laptop and i'm only using the touchpad. This is the problem, when i fx browse a webpage and the scrollbar appears. Then when i try to scroll down it scrolls up :D
[12:12] <Hendric2> i just need 1...
[12:12] <Jedrick> anyone?
[12:12] <dooglus> brownie17: you can just install the 686 kernel by installing 'linux-686' in synaptic
[12:12] <Severian> dooglus, the inittab has settings for which runlevels the virtual consoles are created in.  The default is 2 through 5.  So, I assume that run level 3 had gdm.  But, I have not tested it.  I have not ever switched the run level of an Ubuntu system.  That is just for emergencies.
[12:13] <Jedrick> i install the gcc and when i try to install the speedtouch modem driver i got this error. " the kernel speedtch module is loaded. this is not compatible with the speedtouch usermode driver. " how to install my modem?
[12:13] <vbgunz> whats the shortest hand method trick for archiving your entire home directory in one swoop?
[12:13] <Hendric2> how will i know to what kernel i'm using? using terminal....
[12:13] <cafuego_> Severian: No, debian based distros run gdm in all runlevels between 2 and 5. inittab does NOT affect that.
[12:13] <Severian> brownie17, there is a package in Synaptic called linux-686.  It will install a 686 kernel.
[12:14] <dooglus> Severian: I see what you mean now...  but run level 3 is the default, I believe, so you're not saving any memory.
[12:14] <brownie17> Severian, dooglus, only 386 appears in synaptic. i am runnning hoary
[12:14] <cafuego_> If there are things you don't want to run, install 'rcconf' and run that, to disable services.
[12:14] <Jedrick> anyone?
[12:14] <Severian> cafuego_, that is what I thought.
[12:14] <bigfoot1> cafuego, there's only one device there because I cut out the rest of the output (complete output is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2789). So what is the tty for it? I need this info for setting up synce. thank you.
[12:14] <Jedrick> how to install speedtouch moded on ubuntu?
[12:15] <Hendric2> how will i know to what kernel i'm using? using terminal....
[12:15] <Severian> dooglus, run level 5 is the default for most people.  run level 3 is multi user with no x.
[12:15] <cafuego_> bigfoot1: it's a usb device address (device #3 afaik) ttys are not involved.
[12:15] <defsy> vbgunz: I think something along: tar cjvf /mnt/bigstore/vbgunz_home.tar.bz2 /home/vbgunz
[12:15] <cafuego_> Severian: Ubuntu uses 2 by default.
[12:15] <dooglus> Severian: really?
[12:15] <Jedrick> how to install speedtouch modem on ubuntu?
[12:15] <defsy> vbgunz: this is, if you don't have special devices or symlinks around, I think ;)
[12:15] <dooglus> brownie17: it's in 'restricted' in hoary: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/base/linux-686
[12:16] <dooglus> brownie17: you'll need to add 'restricted' repositories too...
[12:16] <Severian> cafuego_, how about that.  I assumed it was 5 like most distros.
[12:16] <dooglus> !tell brownie17 about repositories
[12:16] <bigfoot1> cafuego, then what do i put in the setup screen (see a mangled copy at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2790)
[12:16] <bigfoot1> ?
[12:16] <cafuego_> Severian: Nope, 2 on anything that's based off debian.
[12:16] <Trashie> The problem appears everytime there is a scrollbar. even in X-chat, if i try to go to a specific place it just keep going up
[12:16] <cafuego_> Severian: Because 2 through 5 are identical, it doesn't matter anyway.
[12:17] <Severian> Ubuntu is the first debian based system I used for any prolonged period.  Before this, I was mostly SuSE.
[12:17] <iru> I want to mirror ubuntu archive locally but not the CD images. Can someone pointme in the right direction.
[12:17] <bigfoot1> cafuego, should i leave it the way it is, which is at "/dev/ttyUSB0"
[12:17] <cafuego_> bigfoot1: Probably ttyUSB0
[12:17] <dooglus> Trashie: how are you scrolling?
[12:18] <Jedrick> how to gain access to root?
[12:18] <dooglus> !tell Jedrick about root
[12:18] <iru> jedrick: sudo su
[12:18] <bigfoot1> cafuego, and it doesn't matter what usb port i stick the pda into? It's always going to be the same ?
[12:18] <cafuego_> Severian: Yeah, I used SuSE for a while after Slack. Debian/Ubuntu are _far_ nicer.
[12:18] <hutgyrr> !root
[12:18] <Severian> Jedrick.  The Ubuntu way is that you don't
[12:18] <ubotu> methinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:18] <Jedrick> ?
[12:18] <Hendric2> can DMA help me increase speed???? if so, how will i know it is enabled.. and how do i enable it??
[12:18] <Bateau_> i just got this error when trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop: "Copying packages to the hardisk failed. you may have run out of disk space in the target /var filesystem." the disk on the laptop is 8Gb :x that should be enough right? i set up 1gb to swap, and the rest to / (ReiserFS)
[12:18] <cafuego_> bigfoot1: In theory, yes. It might change in the future if you insert another pda first...
[12:18] <dooglus> Bateau_: type "df /var"
[12:18] <cafuego_> !dma
[12:18] <cafuego_> !+dma
[12:18] <ubotu> dma is probably Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[12:19] <Bateau_> dooglus: where? im in the install progress setup thingy
[12:19] <Severian> Jedrick.  if you really want it, just set a password for root.  At least, I have read that.  I have not tested it.
[12:19] <dooglus> Bateau_: oh.
[12:19] <cafuego_> Jedrick: If you need a root shell, run 'sudo -s' and enter your USER password.
[12:19] <brownie17> dooglus, um.. i think restricted repos are added. i'm fairly sure.
[12:19] <dooglus> brownie17: what does it say if you run "apt-cache policy linux-686" ?
[12:20] <brownie17> dooglus, in flood ill tell you
[12:20] <Severian> Hendric2, do you believe you are not using DMA?  DMA is much faster, and I would assume to be the default unless you had a tricky chipset.  What chipset is on your motherboard?
[12:20] <Jedrick> i dont have a password to my root. how can i login as root?
[12:20] <dooglus> brownie17: basically, does it show a candidate?
[12:20] <basvg> hmm, when I start xfig (from hoary) it complains that it "Can't find -*-times-medium-r-normal--13-*-*-*-*-*-ISO8859-*, using 6x13"... does anyone know how to fix that?
[12:20] <Trashie> dooglus: tried possible way of scrolling. it only "works" when i use the arrow keys
[12:21] <dooglus> !tell Jedrick about root
[12:21] <brownie17> dooglus, it says not installed. but it paeears to know where to get it
[12:21] <dooglus> brownie17: so just "sudo apt-get install linux-686" then
[12:21] <cafuego_> Jedrick: You can't. That's the idea. If you think you need to log in as root, you shouldn't have root access ever.
[12:21] <bigfoot1> I ran "sudo synce-serial-config ttyUSB0" but i get an error message: synce-serial-config was unable to find a character device named "ttyUSB0". What's wrong?
[12:21] <Severian> It is a little tricky.  You use sudo to let you set the root password.  I'll have to lookup the parameters.
[12:22] <Hendric> Here's a bug i think.. by using the gnome menu editor.. i tried disabling some.. then enabling them.. some menus won't appear anymore even if i re-enabled them.. how can i make them appear again?
[12:22] <dooglus> just "sudo passwd" will do it
[12:22] <iru> BigFoot : sudo synce-serial-config /dev/ttyUSB0 ?
[12:23] <bigfoot1> iru, error message:   synce-serial-config was unable to find a character device named "/dev/ttyUSB0"
[12:23] <cafuego_> !tell Jedrick -about sudo
[12:23] <erisco> hello, it may be a bit weird asking this here, but i am unsure of a better place to ask. i want to get active in some website design forum... helping people out with the knowledge i have. does anyone know an active, friendly place i could try?
[12:23] <Hendric> can gnome use hardware acceleration??
[12:23] <cafuego_> Hendric: Such as?
[12:23] <Severian> Jedrick, cafuego_ is right about that.  I was only telling you that you could theoretically set a root password.  I have been using Ubuntu almost a year and I have not had to do it.  What do you need to do that you think you need to be root for?
[12:23] <cafuego_> Hendric: Are you mixing up useless windows-speak?
[12:24] <Hendric> cafuego, for faster loading of things
[12:24] <erisco> $5 he is =p
[12:24] <brownie17> Severian, wrong name on your message up there ^^^
[12:24] <cafuego_> Hendric: Um... it runs as fast as it can.
[12:24] <Hendric> cafuego, ok.. how bout cairo? does it help?
[12:24] <Severian> brownie17, sorry, which message?
[12:24] <Jedrick> im installing my modem driver
[12:24] <cafuego_> Hendric: It looks nicer, but doesn't appear to be any faster.
[12:24] <brownie17> dooglus, works fine in apt-get, but didn't appear in synaptic, why is that?
[12:25] <Jedrick> and it needs to  be on root
[12:25] <mahangu> are tor user banned from ubuntu?
[12:25] <cafuego_> Jedrick: Then use 'sudo'.
[12:25] <Jedrick> it says cannot run the script if your not in root
[12:25] <cafuego_> mahangu: Yes.
[12:25] <brownie17> Severian, "Severian: Jedrick, cafuego_ is right about that. "
[12:25] <Severian> Jedrick, what command is it that you need to issue as root?
[12:25] <Hendric> cafuego, ah ok. i thought it accelerate things up
[12:25] <mahangu> cafuego, but someone in here just said he's using tor
[12:25] <mahangu> nvm
[12:25] <brownie17> Severian, haha actually my mistake
[12:26] <cafuego_> Hendric: maybe on someone else's machine, certainly not here :-)
[12:26] <brownie17> Severian, i mistook Jedrick and Hendric. thought you wanted hendric
[12:26] <cafuego_> mahangu: Any tor users we've seen here have spammed and trolled only, so the hostmask got banned.
[12:26] <Hendric> cafuego, any suggestions on speeding my system up.. like disabling unused services and stuffs...
[12:26] <Jedrick> anyone here uses speedtouch silver modem?
[12:26] <Jedrick> how to install
[12:26] <cafuego_> Hendric: Buy a faster cpu, more ram.
[12:26] <crispynix> mahangu: tor users and unregistered users. Meanwhile, #debian allows both and has quite a few more people in it.
[12:26] <dooglus> Hendric: are you the same Hendric from irc.mozilla.org?
[12:27] <Hendric> cafuego, im using this system for plain surfing and chat
[12:27] <emanuelez> hello
[12:27] <Hendric> dooglus, nopes...
[12:27] <cafuego_> Hendric: That will never be slow.
[12:27] <dooglus> Hendric: I didn't think so.  Unusual name though.
[12:27] <cafuego_> Hendric: Well, an exception being java applets in mozilla on a 486.
[12:27] <Hendric> thats why im here coz its slow... but kernel-686 improved it a bit
[12:27] <emanuelez> is there any reason why today openoffice doesn't want to open and my gnome desktop took several minutes to load?
[12:28] <mahangu> emanuelez, there could be many reasons
[12:28] <Severian> brownie17, np.  I wondered what I had done.
[12:28] <emanuelez> mahangu: any of them regarding an apt-upgrade i did yesterday? (no backports)
[12:29] <cafuego_> Hendric: I doubt that would create a noticable difference, unless you're running an SMP system.
[12:29] <mahangu> emanuelez, mm i have no idea mate
[12:29] <iru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive is the only info i can find on mirroring ubuntu. Is there any howto or page that is more specific?
[12:29] <mahangu> since when is this?
[12:29] <Hendric> cafuego_, well it did a bit.. wats SMP anyways??
[12:30] <Hendric> i saw linux-686-smp on synaptics
[12:30] <cafuego_> !+smp
[12:30] <ubotu> Wish i knew, cafuego_
[12:30] <emanuelez> i can't recall the name of that good gnome spreadsheet... any hint?
[12:30] <mahangu> i need a good alternative browser. any suggestions?
[12:30] <spacedman> emanuelez: gnumeric?
[12:30] <cafuego_> !smp is Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.
[12:30] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[12:30] <emanuelez> spacedman: yeah! thx :)
[12:30] <Severian> Jedrick, generally any command you think you need to issue as root, you can just put sudo at the beginning of and it will work.
[12:31] <Hendric> ah... just as i thought
[12:31] <mylastmorning> anyone know how to install the java runtime?
[12:31] <vbgunz> how do I backup my entire home directory? I am trying but it's growing bigger than it is supposed to and it wont finish instead popping up an error
[12:31] <malv> sure wonder why epiphany is so much faster than firefox
[12:31] <Hendric> openoffice is really slow.. ms word on crossover is even faster.. weird
[12:31] <mahangu> vbgunz, mv * /new/location ?
[12:31] <topyli> vbgunz: best done with tar
[12:32] <mylastmorning> anyone know how to install the java runtime?
[12:32] <mahangu> mylastmorning, ask once and wait
[12:32] <vbgunz> im not trying to move it, just trying to back it up
[12:32] <mahangu> mylastmorning, have you downloaded the bin?
[12:32] <topyli> !java
[12:32] <ubotu> java is, like, to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[12:32] <mylastmorning> yes mahanu
[12:32] <mahangu> vbgunz, cp * /new/location
[12:32] <mylastmorning> yes mahangu*
[12:32] <vbgunz> im trying to create a new archive and then dragging all files hidden and all into the archive but I get an error
[12:32] <topyli> mylastmorning: see what ubotu said above
[12:33] <mahangu> ubotu, tell mylastmorning about java
[12:33] <vbgunz> mahangu: I am trying to archive it into tar, etc, a package
[12:33] <Severian> vbgunz, do you have room to tar your home directory.?  If you keep important files there, it might be a good idea.
[12:33] <mahangu> vbgunz, tar -(i forget the flags) /home/vbgunz/
[12:33] <mylastmorning> I've already tried that I can't get the "java-package" to install...
[12:34] <mylastmorning> I've already tried that I can't get the "java-package" to install... mahangu
[12:34] <vbgunz> Severian, how do I see how much room I have? I right clicked the home directory and checked properties... It says 159MB. *but* When I just tried to tar just the home directory it expanded to 2.1GB... I am not sure what is happening
[12:34] <Hendric> how can i make totem play alot of file types. like mp3, dvd, vcd, mpg, etc...
[12:34] <topyli> vbgunz: if you're making a tarball, don't create the tarball into your home dir. tar might get confused by a catch-22 :)
[12:34] <mahangu> mylastmorning, i myself just downloaded the .bin, gonna try it later tonight
[12:34] <Severian> vbgunz, I do something like   tar cvpf /home.tar /home/
[12:34] <vbgunz> topyli: thats what I am thinking might have happened
[12:35] <mylastmorning> ok mahangu
[12:35] <vbgunz> Severian: I'll try that
[12:35] <mylastmorning> anyone know how to install the java runtime?
[12:35] <Severian> Then I bzip2 it.  You can do them both at the same time, but I like two steps.
[12:35] <mahangu> mylastmorning, ill let you know how it goes :)
[12:35] <mylastmorning> ok mahangu
[12:35] <Hendric> !restricted
[12:35] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:36] <mylastmorning> does anyone have the java runtime installed and working?
[12:36] <vbgunz> OH, its packaging up my .Trash... *but* I emptied it...
[12:37] <topyli> vbgunz: that should be just fine. you do want .Trash in your backup so that it will be created after armageddon when you recover your $home
[12:38] <vbgunz> topyli: I have 2G of stuff in there I cannot delete :(
[12:38] <vbgunz> topyli: I have no idea why I can't delete that stuff... I am emtpying the trash but it's still got stuff in it, what the heck is that :P
[12:38] <topyli> vbgunz: sudo rm -rf /home/vbgunz/.Trash/*
[12:39] <vbgunz> topyli: what is rm ?
[12:39] <topyli> remove
[12:39] <Severian> mylastmorning, I have the java run time installed.  I think I just ran the .bin from Sun, but I don't remember for sure.  I was following the steps from a page at ubuntuforums
[12:39] <vbgunz> rm --help
[12:40] <vbgunz> topyli: recursive force removal ;)
[12:40] <topyli> vbgunz: yes, very dangerous stuff
[12:40] <vbgunz> topyli: thank you, may I ask why I cannot simply delete that stuff from simlpy *emptying* the trash can?
[12:40] <Severian> vbgunz, that happens to me when the stuff in the trash is not owned by the same user trying to delete it.
[12:40] <topyli> vbgunz: somehow you got stuff in there owned by root or someone else
[12:41] <mylastmorning> Severian can you give me a link 2 the forums
[12:41] <vbgunz> ahh, but if I didn't own it to begin with how in the world did it get into my trash can ;) (catch-22)?
[12:41] <Severian> mylastmorning.  Just a moment.  I'll look.
[12:42] <bigfoot1> to anyone: I followed the how-to on http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/howto.php. I ran "sudo synce-serial-start"and got an error message: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2791. Can someone help me? I'm almost done with this task of setting up my pocket pc. Thank you
[12:42] <brownie17> will upgrading my kernel to the "686" model rather than the "386" actually speed it up or make it more reliable?
[12:42] <topyli> vbgunz: happens for example when i'm building packages, and root creates some files. then, i move the source dir to trash, but i can't delete it permanently (ie. empty the trash)
[12:42] <nrbq> howdy
[12:42] <brownie17> what is the difference between a normal laptop and a satellite laptop?
[12:42] <vbgunz> hehe, thanks for that rm trick topyli, may I ask... is that command sort of like the final deletion method? I mean if I rm'ed a file... it would't got to the trash can but instead simply disappear all together correct?
[12:42] <Jedrick> how to mount to windows?
[12:42] <nrbq> Can anyone recommend a good jabber client (not GAIM) that I can get via apt-get?
[12:42] <topyli> vbgunz: gone forever
[12:42] <Severian> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-09-16.3469703387
[12:42] <nrbq> gajim fails
[12:43] <poningru_study> nrbq: gossip
[12:43] <brownie17> Jedrick, if you are asking how to mount a windows partition on boot, there is a script call winmac_fstab
[12:43] <litage> syslog is set to write to a pipe. since syslog starts very early on, nothing is reading from the pipe yet. later on, mysql starts reading from the pipe, but by that time, it seems as though syslog isn't bothering to write to the pipe anymore. any ideas on how to solve this?
[12:43] <topyli> nrbq: gossip
[12:43] <Severian> mylastmorning.  That page walks you through installing flash or java.
[12:43] <vbgunz> oh ok, gotcha topyli, may I ask just one more simple question I hope? What is the command to simply delete a file... send it to the trash can? Is it mv?
[12:43] <nrbq> poningru_study: thanks, I'll try that!
[12:43] <poningru_study> brownie17: first question: both
[12:43] <Hendric> If i installed w32codecs.. can totem play mp3 and etc.. already??
[12:43] <poningru_study> Hendric: yes
[12:43] <basvg> hmm, it seems that ttmkfdir is pretty much borked. it gives segfaults all the time
[12:43] <topyli> vbgunz: yes, mv foo .Trash
[12:43] <Hendric> cool1
[12:43] <Severian> Hendric, not from w32codecs
[12:44] <poningru_study> Hendric: sure it does
[12:44] <poningru_study> err Severian
[12:44] <poningru_study> no?
[12:44] <poningru_study> !mp3
[12:44] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[12:44] <vbgunz> oh so it isn't foo ~/.Trash just foo .Trash (capital T)...
[12:44] <Hendric> Severian, how can i make it play mp3s or DVDs?? i can't play even mpg
[12:44] <brownie17> poningru_study, thaks
[12:45] <Random_Sindrom> any fine lin web editor?
[12:45] <Severian> w32codecs lets mplayer and probably xine do things like quicktime and wma files.  There is anothe package for mp3  Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats
[12:45] <topyli> vbgunz: if you only use .Trash, you better be in the same dir as .Trash. otherwise foo will simply be renamed :)
[12:45] <Severian> Hendric, by DVDs, do you mean encrypted ones?
[12:45] <poningru_study> Severian: that site says mp3 is in w32codecs
[12:46] <vbgunz> ok, thats enough, thank you topyli, I just been curious about deleting stuff from the cli *but* didn't find it anywhere... funny this happens
[12:46] <poningru_study> vbgunz: rm foo
[12:46] <poningru_study> it removes without moving it to trash
[12:46] <Severian> I installs the mad3 package to get mp3.  Maybe I did not need it.  So, try it tith just w32codecs and see what happens.
[12:46] <Hendric> Severian, any DVDs
[12:46] <Jedrick> how to mount to windows?
[12:47] <vbgunz> so mv to move to /home/vbgunz/.Trash and sudo rm /home/vbgunz/.Trash/* to recursively forcefully remove all .Trash contents... Thats powerful, thank you!
[12:47] <poningru_study> Hendric: it should work out of the box if its a data cd
[12:47] <poningru_study> Hendric: if its a movie or something its probably encrypted using css
[12:47] <Hendric> its a movie..
[12:47] <Severian> Hendric, google is your friend here.  I think it is against the law for me to decribe decss and so I won't do that..
[12:47] <poningru_study> Hendric: you have to follow the dvd section in that page
[12:47] <Hendric> pirated dvds here in asia is like open source.. lol
[12:47] <vbgunz> poningru_study: thank you for rm foo, topyli, pretty much pointed that out :)
[12:48] <larsrohdin> I'm trying to install Battlefield 2 with cedega, it seems to work, but it says "You need administrator rights to install this" I've tried with both sudo, and logged on as root... But nothing works.
[12:48] <lastnode> Hendric: google, im from asia and got all my dvds to work
[12:48] <topyli> Severian: gstreamer0.8-mad? that's only needed by the apps that actually use gstreamer
[12:48] <lastnode> but as severian pointed out, i shouldnt talk about it
[12:48] <Hendric> lastnode, no need.. its not encrypted
[12:48] <sertmann> whoaa, really need some help, what's the command for chowning my homedir? chown -R owner:sertmann * don't work
[12:48] <topyli> vbgunz: ph33r my rm-fu!
[12:48] <Stricklin> Best app to burn mp3s to audio CD?
[12:49] <aftertaf> Stricklin:  ^^^^
[12:49] <vbgunz> topyli: thank you I just did it and worked beautifully... I am really understanding how and why the cli is so frigging cool... man I am frigging loving it
[12:49] <topyli> Stricklin: serpentine i guess, or perhaps gnomebaker
[12:49] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  cli is god :)
[12:49] <lllmanulll> Stricklin, Serpentine ?
[12:49] <poningru_study> Stricklin: I would say k3b
[12:49] <Severian> Stricklin, that is a matter of taste.  I like k3b, but as it is a KDE app, some here will disagree.
[12:50] <sertmann> can anyone hear me this ircii is sorta dodgy?
[12:50] <poningru_study> sertmann: what did you want?
[12:50] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  been to linuxcommands.org?
[12:50] <poningru_study> change owner?
[12:50] <Stricklin> wow, definitely varied opinions
[12:50] <fortune|cowsay> sertmann: sudo chown -R sertmann:sertmann /home/sertmann (assuming your username is sertmann that is :) )
[12:50] <aftertaf> sertmann:  load n clear
[12:50] <vbgunz> aftertaf: haha, ya, I would agree, I really wish I knew more but learning mv and rm today is good enough, I've been learning the Linux file structure lately
[12:50] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  !cli
[12:50] <poningru_study> Stricklin: to each his own
[12:50] <aftertaf> !cli
[12:50] <ubotu> methinks cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[12:50] <sertmann> cheers ill try that
[12:50] <vbgunz> aftertaf: nope, but I did dl Linux in a Nutshell 4th edition ;)
[12:50] <aftertaf> hehe
[12:50] <Severian> k3b runs just great on Ubuntu, though, as do most kde apps I have tried.  SuperKaramba, no, but most things yes.
[12:51] <Stricklin> Lemme ask a dumb question: Can I burn tracks to a DVD disc and still have it play in my car stereo?
[12:51] <aftertaf> Severian:  yeah for SK... i got the tarball in the end
[12:51] <poningru_study> Stricklin: no
[12:51] <Stricklin> :(
[12:51] <Stricklin> I didn't think so
[12:51] <topyli> Stricklin: if your car has a dvd player
[12:51] <vbgunz> aftertaf: thanks for that site, is that like the google of Linux commands?
[12:51] <Stricklin> it doesn't
[12:51] <aftertaf> Stricklin:  can your car read dvds?
[12:51] <poningru_study> Stricklin: yeah can your care read dvds?
[12:51] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  hehe sort of. try the lnuxcommands site, a few pages but awesome!
[12:52] <larsrohdin> can someone help me with cedega?
[12:52] <Severian> Does anyone here know when the Ubuntu Technical Board meets?
[12:52] <vbgunz> aftertaf: thanks but search for rm returned an error I believe... along with some other stuff
[12:52] <lastnode> aftertaf: give me the uri please? linuxcommands
[12:52] <Hendric> with w32codecs... still totem wasn't able to play my MP3s
[12:52] <poningru_study> searcher`: its on wed
[12:52] <poningru_study> sorry tuesdays
[12:52] <vbgunz> aftertaf: it seems to be under major development... at least it needs it, *but* it is a bright idea..
[12:53] <mahangu> Hendric, i use XMMS
[12:53] <poningru_study> depending on where you live
[12:53] <vbgunz> lastnode: linuxcommands.org
[12:53] <Stricklin> I'm not finding serpentine
[12:53] <Hendric> i just want to make totem work
[12:54] <poningru_study> Hendric: follow everything on that site
[12:54] <poningru_study> wait you sure?
[12:54] <Ng> Hendric: have you installed the gstreamer0.8-mad plugin? that should help with mpegs
[12:54] <Severian> I found it.  They meet every two weeks and I just missed the last one
[12:54] <topyli> Severian: the meeting agendas and timetables are on the wiki
[12:54] <poningru_study> Hendric: did you install totem-xine?
[12:54] <Hendric> well the out of the box totem
[12:54] <poningru_study> Hendric: install totem-xine
[12:55] <Ng> bah
[12:55] <Ng> totem-xine is junk :(
[12:55] <poningru_study> Ng: pssh
[12:55] <Hendric> lolx
[12:55] <Severian> Good night all. I logged on just to see if anyone was here.  This was quite an active group
[12:55] <Hendric> oh well its playing now....
[12:55] <Hendric> with xmms... :p
[12:55] <mahangu> Hendric, heh, xmms rocks
[12:55] <vbgunz> oh my god... I need to hit the hay... I hate Linux... it keeps me up late :P
[12:55] <mahangu> for dvds get gxine
[12:56] <topyli> isn't xmms a bit obsolete on this century? ;-)
[12:56] <mahangu> topyli, bah, go wash your mouth out!
[12:56] <poningru_study> rofl
[12:56] <topyli> mahangu: not right now, i'm eating :)
[12:56] <Hendric> topyli, not if you got all the plugins and make it play almost everything... including divx
[12:56] <Ng> topyli: yes
[12:57] <poningru_study> guys this is not a channel for flame wars
[12:57] <mahangu> Hendric, it plays divx?
[12:57] <Ng> making xmms play divx is just a toy
[12:57] <Hendric> it does divx
[12:57] <mahangu> poningru_study, we're kididng :)
[12:57] <mahangu> *kidding even
[12:57] <poningru_study> oh :)
[12:57] <topyli> Hendric: oh sure, it still does the job all right
[12:57] <poningru_study> well keep it informative then it might be actually usefull
[12:58] <topyli> Ng: that would be done through xmmplayer? the mplayer plugin?
[12:58] <Hendric> anyone got gyach working better????
[01:00] <Ng> topyli: it's years since I last ran xmms, I don't recall
[01:00] <Ng> topyli: totem and rhythmbox are the gnomey media players these days, so I use them and encourage others to do the same
[01:00] <topyli> yep
[01:00] <locomorto> beep-media-player is also very nice
[01:00] <mahangu> i cant seem to find mplayer
[01:00] <renedox> use VLC...
[01:01] <mahangu> even among backports
[01:01] <locomorto> Its xmms + nice gtkness
[01:01] <Ng> mahangu: it's in multiverse
[01:01] <mahangu> Ng, what's the uri?
[01:01] <vbgunz> !tell backports
[01:01] <renedox> what is this "smart upgrade" thing I need to do to update firefox?
[01:01] <eythian> Is it possible to add things to the 'Places' menu?
[01:01] <mahangu> ubotu, tell vbgunz about backports
[01:01] <Ng> mahangu: check the RestrictedFormats wiki entry, it tells you what repositories to add
[01:02] <locomorto> renedox: vlc has really has a not so nice a GUI
[01:02] <poningru_study> eythian: not right now
[01:02] <mahangu> Ng, is it difficult to install the w32codecs with it?
[01:02] <p0windah> totem is as bad as vlc
[01:02] <eythian> poningru_study, OK. How about in Breezy?
[01:02] <Ng> poningru_study: well it kind of is becaue the places menu shows bookmarks and connected servers
[01:02] <locomorto> renedox: but I do use it for h264 video (DigiLifeTv)
[01:02] <Ng> so add the thing you want as a bookmark,or connect to it ;)
[01:02] <vbgunz> thanks fellas, how can I get ubotu to tell me these things? I know ubotu had the info but how do I request it?
[01:02] <locomorto> btw Digital Life TV is really nice
[01:02] <mahangu_study> that's better
[01:02] <mahangu_study> ill bbiab guys
[01:02] <locomorto> Think iptv + podcast + the screen savers
[01:02] <renedox> locomorto: I find VLC plays things a lot better than totem
[01:02] <eythian> rhythmbox is a surprisingly nice player. It's no amaroK, but it's also smaller and simpler.
[01:03] <mahangu_study> eythian, it wotn play mp3s
[01:03] <locomorto> renedox: do you use totem-xine?
[01:03] <mahangu_study> wierd
[01:03] <renedox> locomorto: where totem skips on things, VLC doesn't
[01:03] <mahangu_study> rythmbox for is wierd
[01:03] <renedox> locomorto: no, I use VLC
[01:03] <vbgunz> ubotu: tell vbgunz about backports
[01:03] <eythian> mahangu_study, tell that to my one, which is playing them fine.
[01:03] <mahangu_study> eythian, did you install anything?
[01:03] <vbgunz> ahh I see, thanks!
[01:03] <locomorto> renedox: nono do you the totem xine package installed?
[01:03] <eythian> yeah
[01:03] <locomorto> renedox: its a different backend to totem
[01:03] <eythian> It wouldn't play them initially. I think it was gstreamer-mad or similar
[01:03] <renedox> locomorto: yes, I guess so
[01:03] <poningru_study> locomorto: there is not problem with the vlc gui
[01:04] <locomorto> renedox: did you explicitly install it
[01:04] <poningru_study> its intuitive than totem imho
[01:04] <renedox> locomorto: no
[01:04] <crispynix> heh, GNOME still lacks decent audio and video players? I've long since settled in with kaffeine-xine for _all_ vids and amarok-xine for _most_ music (xmms for mods, still).
[01:04] <locomorto> renedox: give it a shot
[01:04] <locomorto> poningru: seriously have actually even compared them?
[01:04] <renedox> locomorto: hm.. ok, what do I actually need though?
[01:05] <eythian> hmm, I use gmplayer for videos (cos I've used mplayer forever, so have it all customised), and rhythmbox for music. Works well enough for me.
[01:05] <locomorto> poningru: The menu options in vlc are very confusing for most people
[01:05] <crispynix> speaking of mods, I really ought to get around to converting them to vorbis or something...
[01:05] <locomorto> renedox: just totem-xine and totem
[01:05] <renedox> locomorto: ok, going to install them now :)
[01:05] <locomorto> renedox: I think totem-xine does not depend on anything but totem
[01:06] <locomorto> But still keep vlc/mplayer around for the view quirky videos
[01:06] <locomorto> few*
[01:06] <renedox> locomorto: hm.. I get 404
[01:06] <locomorto> damn pheontics
[01:06] <locomorto> odd, you can try using a mirror
[01:06] <locomorto> Sometimes that happens to me as well
[01:06] <renedox> how?
[01:07] <locomorto> !repos
[01:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:07] <topyli> locomorto: i would guess totem-xine does depend on xine-libs
[01:07] <morbidi> hello
[01:07] <morbidi> my mouse doesn't work
[01:07] <renedox> oh, I already have all repos ticked
[01:07] <morbidi> it's a ps/2 mouse
[01:07] <locomorto> topyli: thats the thing, I thought it didn't. Although i'm not 100%
[01:07] <morbidi> does anyone got the same problem ?
[01:08] <kbrooks> "Windows chauffeurs you around; Linux hands you the keys and puts you in the driver's seat. If you can't drive, that's your problem. And your fault."
[01:08] <aftertaf> kbrooks:  thats a bit harsh, dont you think?
[01:08] <eythian> morbidi, my PS/2 mouse works completely problem free (except that for some reason MS doesn't make Linux drivers for it :)
[01:09] <morbidi> :(
[01:09] <kbrooks> aftertaf: not harsh.
[01:09] <morbidi> my mouse doesn't work :((((
[01:09] <eythian> does it not work at all, or does it behave strange?
[01:09] <kbrooks> you have to work for what you want for all operating systems
[01:09] <morbidi> eythian: not work at all in linux
[01:09] <aftertaf> its the 'and your fault' bit i find harsh..;;. just my 2p
[01:10] <morbidi> in windows it is just fine :|
[01:10] <kbrooks> "Windows is created for non-tech users. The widespread perception amongst those users is that Linux is hard to use. This is not the case, but it's an understandable misconception.
[01:10] <kbrooks> "
[01:10] <kbrooks> http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[01:10] <aftertaf> without having driving lessons, you dont know how to drive
[01:10] <poningru_study> kbrooks: this is a forum for user support take theory and philosophy elsewhere
[01:10] <eythian> morbidi, hmm. I can't be too much help, I've never had problems with any of mine, but I'll try. Does the mouse light up? (assuming it's optical)
[01:11] <Nvidiot> where do I go to *enable* the screensaver when I unplug my laptop? When on AC it runs the screensaver, but as soon as I unplug it stops
[01:11] <aftertaf>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:11] <kbrooks> aftertaf: and windows drives you around. anyway
[01:11] <morbidi> eythian: my mouse has got a ball
[01:11] <poningru_study> morbidi: what model and company is your mouse?
[01:11] <morbidi> logitech
[01:11] <poningru_study> morbidi: it doesnt work at all?
[01:11] <poningru_study> like no movement nothing?
[01:11] <morbidi> poningru_study: cordless wheel mouse
[01:12] <poningru_study> oh
[01:12] <morbidi> poningru_study: yes
[01:12] <poningru_study> doh
[01:12] <poningru_study> morbidi: if its cordless you absolutely need drivers
[01:12] <morbidi> poningru_study: ?
[01:12] <morbidi> what drivers ?
[01:12] <poningru_study> morbidi: I need the model number for that
[01:13] <eythian> poningru_study, that's not right\
[01:13] <poningru_study> eythian: for logitech it is
[01:13] <eythian> poningru_study, I have a cordless MS mouse that works fine
[01:13] <eythian> poningru_study, ahh, OK.
[01:13] <morbidi> poningru_study: ok, but does logitech gives the drivers ?
[01:13] <poningru_study> nope
[01:14] <poningru_study> people create it themselves
[01:14] <morbidi> where can I get them ?
[01:14] <poningru_study> and give it out
[01:14] <poningru_study> morbidi: you have to search for it
[01:14] <poningru_study> but it depends on your model number
[01:14] <poningru_study> whats the model number of your mouse?
[01:15] <Nvidiot> http://colas.nahaboo.net/anyboard/MouseWheel/posts/1209.html <- try the config they list there
[01:15] <morbidi> Nvidiot: I tryied that already
[01:15] <morbidi> poningru_study: where does it say that ?
[01:15] <poningru_study> morbidi: no clue it could be on the packaging or on the bottom of the mouse
[01:16] <poningru_study> or on the part that connects to the computer
[01:16] <poningru_study> dont know
[01:16] <boxerboy29> does anyone know if opera download site having issues?
[01:16] <poningru_study> boxerboy29: it looks ok
[01:16] <morbidi> it is part of the cordless desktop
[01:17] <morbidi> poningru_study: there's a bunch of numbers
[01:17] <morbidi> and letters
[01:17] <morbidi> can't tell you the model :|
[01:17] <poningru_study> morbidi: hmm
[01:17] <boxerboy29> ive downloaded it 5 times in 12 hrs and it just wont install. it installed before i had to reinstall breezy but now it wont :(
[01:18] <morbidi> poningru_study: Fcc Id ?
[01:19] <poningru_study> morbidi: doubt that will help
[01:19] <morbidi> cept lpd  i
[01:19] <morbidi> ?
[01:19] <eythian> can't you look up model numbers from the FCC id somewhere?
[01:19] <poningru_study> so you cant find anything like a model number or anything?
[01:19] <morbidi> nope :|
[01:19] <poningru_study> hmm weird
[01:20] <Ng> boxerboy29: when you say it won't install, what happens?
[01:20] <Ng> I downloaded a .deb of 8.5 from opera yesterday and dpkg installed it fine
[01:20] <mdeboer> hi. i specified some hostnames in my /etc/hosts file, but it doesn't work... do i need to do something special on ubuntu?
[01:20] <boxerboy29> it unpacks fine gives me my command line than either i make a launcher for it and open it it doesnt open or i type opera and it doesnt give me the installer
[01:21] <dooglus> boxerboy29: why not support a free browser project like firefox, galeon or seamonkey instead of a proprietary one?
[01:21] <Ng> mdeboer: check /etc/nsswitch.conf has "file" in the "hosts" section?
[01:21] <Nvidiot> where do I go to *enable* the screensaver when I unplug my laptop? When on AC it runs the screensaver, but as soon as I unplug it stops
[01:21] <poningru_study> ok I should go to sleep
[01:21] <boxerboy29> dooglus i have firefow and opera is free
[01:21] <poningru_study> night guys
[01:21] <dooglus> boxerboy29: opera is still proprietary, last I heard
[01:21] <mdeboer> Ng: yes, hosts: files dns
[01:22] <dooglus> boxerboy29: it's about as free as IE
[01:22] <boxerboy29> lol
[01:22] <Ng> mdeboer: then entries in /etc/hosts should work pretty much immediately
[01:22] <mdeboer> Ng: that's what i thought...
[01:22] <mdeboer> Ng: weird.
[01:23] <rekrutacja> do you know when exactly final release of breezy will be avalaible?
[01:23] <boxerboy29> 13th
[01:23] <mdeboer> from /etc/hosts:   10.55.0.10      foobar
[01:23] <rekrutacja> bozerboy29 thanks
[01:23] <boxerboy29> yw
[01:23] <SuperNinjaKitty> dooglus i heard opera was free now... could have been mistaken
[01:23] <dooglus> rekrutacja: I don't think anyone does yet - nobody knows what last minute showstopper bug might turn up...
[01:23] <mdeboer> but: host foobar returns: Host foobar not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[01:24] <dooglus> SuperNinjaKitty: it's free as in beer, not as in speech.
[01:24] <Nvidiot> dooglus: I was typing that! :P
[01:24] <SuperNinjaKitty> free as in beer is a start
[01:24] <morbidi> I'm going to reinstall it
[01:24] <topyli> SuperNinjaKitty: you can download it FOR free, ie. no money needed. i haven't seen any source
[01:24] <morbidi> the first time worked
[01:24] <morbidi> and it stoped working
[01:24] <morbidi> btw
[01:24] <Prof_Frink> dooglus: Still cheaper than the 1 soul (human) that IE costs ;)
[01:25] <morbidi> I've got a KVM switch
[01:25] <SuperNinjaKitty> topyli i am not going to edit the source anyhow
[01:25] <morbidi> brb
[01:25] <dooglus> Prof_Frink: you can chose to sell your soul to opera or to MS - the cost is the same.  (1 soul)
[01:25] <topyli> SuperNinjaKitty: i'm not going to hack the emacs lisp code either. that's not the point
[01:26] <eythian> morbidi, try bypassing the KVM, and only change it when the computer is off (ps/2 is not alway hot-swappable)
[01:26] <boxerboy29> i meant to ask what is an emac besides a text editer?
[01:26] <dooglus> SuperNinjaKitty: the majority of americans never leave the states.  so would it be OK if they weren't allowed to leave the country?
[01:26] <eythian> boxerboy29, well...it's also an operating system :)
[01:27] <Nvidiot> emacsOS :D
[01:27] <topyli> boxerboy29: "emacs is my operating system, linux just provides the device drivers" :-)
[01:27] <SuperNinjaKitty> dooglus it isnt the same, apples and oranges comparison
[01:27] <boxerboy29> ohhhhhhh
[01:27] <dooglus> SuperNinjaKitty: it's about freedom
[01:28] <SuperNinjaKitty> dooglus i agree freedom to use the best software you can\
[01:28] <boxerboy29> im gonna assume nad say emacs isnt linux
[01:28] <dooglus> with opera you have no way of getting a change made to the browser unless opera want to make it.  with a free program you can make the change yourself, or pay someone else, anyone else, to make it for you.
[01:28] <topyli> boxerboy29: it also has a psychiatrist, most internet tools, games, office tools, multimedia of course...
[01:29] <SuperNinjaKitty> dooglus then i am free to use a different browser
[01:29] <rekrutacja> there is a video of shuttleworth sppech about ubuntu on defcon when he explains why free as in beer is as much imprtant as free as in speech
[01:29] <rekrutacja> http://dc5video.debian.net/mpeg/2005-07-14/02-Ubuntu_Talk-Mark_Shuttleworth.mpeg
[01:29] <dooglus> SuperNinjaKitty: you're free to use whatever you like, subject to the appropriate licenses
[01:29] <eythian> boxerboy29, It started as a powerfully extendible text editor. It then got extended to be Everything Else.
[01:29] <boxerboy29> cool
[01:30] <topyli> text editor from hell
[01:30] <topyli> says a well known finnish kernel hacker
[01:30] <dooglus> rekrutacja: there's a .ogg file that's about half the size of the mpeg
[01:30] <Nvidiot> just replace /sbin/init with emacs :)
[01:31] <topyli> well, linux was originally just a terminal emulator :)
[01:31] <dooglus> Emacs is still single-threaded, isn't it?
[01:32] <eythian> dooglus, as far as I'm aware
[01:32] <dooglus> that makes it a little less than useful as 'an OS' then...
[01:32] <Nvidiot> bah, who needs multi-threading
[01:32] <topyli> dooglus: it's more of an operating environment. you still need a shell etc. to access through it
[01:32] <eythian> naww, you can probably make it multithreaded in a few lines of LISP :)
[01:33] <dooglus> topyli: and 'sudo vi' doesn't work well inside it :)
[01:33] <topyli> (((((require 'multi-thread))))
[01:33] <Nvidiot> I don't have a problem with most programming languages, but lisp... *shudder*
[01:33] <topyli> dooglus: why not. just use eshell and you can run anything
[01:33] <dooglus> LISP's one of the simplest programming languages there is
[01:34] <Nvidiot> the brackets drive me nuts
[01:34] <eythian> lisp is a very good language once you use it a bit. And the brackets thing is irrelevant if you use a good editor (e.g. emacs :)
[01:34] <Whyvas> basic is easier
[01:34] <dooglus> topyli: anything which doesn't require terminal handling capabilities...
[01:34] <ultramancool> hi
[01:34] <VoX> any squid guru's around bychance?
[01:34] <Whyvas> how do you edit the startup services in ubuntu?
[01:34] <Whyvas> edit the rc.d files manually?
[01:34] <Nvidiot> I'll stick with C++ or so :)
[01:34] <ultramancool> Whyvas look in /etc/init.d
[01:34] <Whyvas> there's a service icon, but it doesn't let you do much
[01:34] <ultramancool> Whyvas and /etc/rc*.d
[01:35] <Whyvas> there's no gui to do it?
[01:35] <ultramancool> Whyvas not to my knowledge
[01:35] <ultramancool> Whyvas: but it's fairly simple
[01:35] <Whyvas> and i thought this was linux for real people
[01:35] <Whyvas> yeah i know
[01:35] <ultramancool> Whyvas: :D
[01:35] <Whyvas> i just thought they would of made it easy for me
[01:35] <dooglus> Whyvas: there's "sysv-rc-conf" which is a kind-of text-based gui...
[01:35] <eythian> Whyvas, real people don't need to go editing /etc/init.d :)
[01:35] <ultramancool> Whyvas: they're nice but not that nice :D
[01:36] <Whyvas> haha
[01:36] <topyli> Whyvas: try sysv-rc-conf. also, breezy has a gui tool
[01:36] <Whyvas> yeah?
[01:36] <ultramancool> Whyvas: let's write a gui for rm while we're at it :)
[01:36] <Whyvas> i have yesterday's breezy build
[01:36] <dooglus> topyli: breezy's gui tool is pretty poor - it only shows some of the entries, and doesn't let you edit the runlevels at all...
[01:36] <ultramancool> Whyvas: lucky :-(
[01:37] <mahangu> how can i run a console as root?
[01:37] <mahangu> there is a GUI option for it
[01:37] <mahangu> but i cant do CTRL ALT F1 and run as root
[01:37] <ultramancool> mahangu: sudo -s i belive
[01:37] <Prof_Frink> sudo su
[01:37] <Ng> dooglus: didn't they take it out?
[01:37] <dooglus> mahangu: "sudo -i"
[01:37] <eythian> mahangu, log in as a user, and do sudo -s
[01:37] <topyli> dooglus: true. i'm not really interested in runlevels anyway
[01:37] <ultramancool> mahangu: majority rules, "sudo -s"
[01:37] <Whyvas> yeah i found the breezy tool, it doesn't let you do much
[01:37] <Nvidiot> sudo su
[01:37] <Nvidiot> :P
[01:37] <dooglus> Ng: no, it's still there in system->administration->services
[01:37] <Whyvas> ultramancool there is a gui for rm
[01:38] <Whyvas> filemanager!
[01:38] <Ng> dooglus: ah yes, it was the Boot one they removed
[01:38] <ultramancool> Whyvas: i know i was just kidding
[01:38] <boxerboy29> i heard sudo -i is safer  and no im not sure what he menat by safer
[01:38] <boxerboy29> meant*
[01:38] <Whyvas> so i couldn't get my mplayer working in firefox
[01:38] <Whyvas> any ideas?
[01:38] <eythian> boxerboy29, they do almost the same thing, -i just treats the new shell as a login environment, that's about it.
[01:38] <ultramancool> Whyvas: thinking of a tool where you start it, it ask you what file to remove, and then removes it :D
[01:38] <boxerboy29> oh ok
[01:38] <Whyvas> it buffers up to 99% then just sits there doing nothing
[01:39] <lastnode> this is teh awesome
[01:39] <dooglus> aah.  it's even worse that I thought - all it does now is pops up a box telling me I typed my password wrong!!!
[01:39] <Drakeson> I have apt-get'ed kernel 2.6.10  how can i install it?
[01:39] <Whyvas> dooglus did you set your root password?
[01:39] <dooglus> Whyvas: I did
[01:39] <ultramancool> Drakeson, did you get the image or the source?
[01:39] <Nvidiot> iirc it automatically installs the kernel too
[01:39] <Whyvas> hehe
[01:39] <Whyvas> dooglus: reinstall!
[01:39] <mahangu> ok i figured out how i can share screens between x and console
[01:39] <dooglus> Whyvas: reinstall what?
[01:39] <Whyvas> ubuntu
[01:40] <freshmint> HI. Got a Hardware questioin: Are external CD/DVD RW drives a problem with linux/fc3?
[01:40] <mahangu> it lists the screen but says there is no unattached screen
[01:40] <eythian> mahangu, screen -dr ?
[01:40] <dooglus> Whyvas: why?
[01:40] <Whyvas> i like chicken!
[01:40] <Whyvas> well i don't know how you'd reset your root password
[01:40] <ultramancool> Whyvas, boot in single user mode
[01:41] <Whyvas> try your regular user password
[01:41] <boxerboy29> doent the passwd command do that?
[01:41] <dooglus> Whyvas: "sudo passwd -l" re-locks it
[01:41] <lastnode> fecking awesome
[01:41] <lastnode> woo
[01:41] <Prof_Frink> There's commands at the evil website that must not be named ;)
[01:41] <ultramancool> who ever asked, boot in single user mode
[01:41] <lastnode> haha this rocks
[01:41] <lastnode> thanks eythian
[01:41] <lastnode> :)
[01:41] <eythian> lastnode, waddid I do?
[01:41] <Dreamglider> freshmint, i have a external cd+rw drive, it works fine here.
[01:42] <freshmint> Dreamglider, well thx, so they arent generally unknow for linux.
[01:42] <StylusEater_Work> has anyone had any luck with usb wireless g cards?
[01:42] <lastnode> eythian: screen -dr :)
[01:43] <lastnode> StylusEater_Work: i use wifi, currently not sure if b/g
[01:43] <lastnode> but i think this machine does both
[01:43] <lastnode>  bg 2200 chipset
[01:43] <eythian> lastnode, ah :) another good one is screen -x
[01:43] <Dreamglider> i belive so, both my external hdd's and the cd driver work
[01:43] <Dreamglider> drive*
[01:43] <Drakeson> ultramancool: headers and source tree. (kernel)
[01:43] <aftertaf> screen -dr? wassat do?
[01:43] <StylusEater_Work> lastnode: I have a powerbook with a broadcom chip in it...but I've heard the ma111 b usb key works from netgear...and I want wireless but I would prefer g over b
[01:44] <Dreamglider> back to work. later.....
[01:44] <Prof_Frink> Hehe, I just got an email saying I can now order Breezy shipit CDs. I ordered a couple of weeks ago...
[01:44] <eythian> aftertaf, 'd'etach a running screen and 'r'eattach it to here
[01:44] <aftertaf> yeah :)
[01:44] <lastnode> ubotu: tell StylusEater_Work about wifi
[01:44] <lastnode> StylusEater_Work: ubotu has a nice list mate
[01:45] <IorGie> Hello, i have some trouble with samba...
[01:45] <lastnode> in irssi how do i part a query?
[01:46] <StylusEater_Work> lastnode: /part
[01:46] <StylusEater_Work> lastnode: so the broadcom works it says but I have to use ndiswrapper?
[01:46] <lastnode> StylusEater_Work: ndiswrapper is pretty simple
[01:46] <lastnode> you just need to modprobe it
[01:47] <lastnode> your inbuilt wifi doesnt work? whydya go for an apple btw
[01:47] <Nvidiot> ndiswrapper -i driver.inf && modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:47] <Nvidiot> that's it :)
[01:47] <lastnode> StylusEater_Work: there you go :)
[01:47] <lastnode> btw /part didn't work
[01:47] <lastnode> guys, rhythmbox still wont play mp3s
[01:47] <lastnode> any idea why?
[01:47] <lastnode> i got gstreamer-mad
[01:47] <Drakeson> a silly problem! : I have created an extra user (through kuser), added it to adm, admin, sudo, and now when I open a terminal with that account sudo doesn't ask the password!!!
[01:48] <Drakeson> is sudo stable?
[01:48] <Drakeson> sounds like it may cause severe security problems (at least in its current state)
[01:48] <eythian> lastnode, I'll have a look, but it works fine for me
[01:48] <lastnode> eythian: thanks, when you have the time mate
[01:48] <StylusEater_Work> lastnode: I bought a powerbook b/c I like OS-X
[01:48] <StylusEater_Work> but I found out...not as much as I like Linux
[01:48] <lastnode> StylusEater_Work: oh, and you're using ubuntu side by side dual boot?
[01:48] <lastnode> i agree, powerbooks are teh sexy
[01:49] <lastnode> btw, anyone here using bitchx?
[01:49] <boxerboy29> not right now but i have
[01:49] <fortune|cowsay> Drakeson: sudo (and gksudo) won't ask for your password again for 15 minutes (from the same shell)
[01:49] <aftertaf> Drakeson:  remove him from sudo.
[01:49] <lastnode> boxerboy29: how do you switch windows?
[01:49] <lastnode> as in, channels
[01:49] <aftertaf> give him sudo rights with sudoers
[01:49] <dbzdeath> my pc sometimes runs out of both ram and swap and then basically freezes up... i have to hit ctrl + alt + backspace and wait 5 mins till X is killed... is there a way to get the task that is using the most ram/swap automatically killed when the total usage gets too high?
[01:49] <boxerboy29> cant you use same command as in xchat?
[01:50] <Whyvas> dbzdeath, try using fluxbox
[01:50] <lastnode> boxerboy29: im on console, with irssi
[01:50] <lastnode> dbzdeath: or ice wm
[01:50] <eythian> lastnode, OK, I have installed gstreamer0.8-* pretty much, and it seems to be one of them that does it. If I can dig up an install log, I'll see if I can find what it was a bit more accurately.
[01:50] <dbzdeath> lastnode: i don't really like either of those...i use xfce4
[01:50] <lastnode> eythian: thanks don't sweat it
[01:50] <Whyvas> it still freezes with xfce?
[01:50] <Whyvas> how much ram do you have?
[01:50] <Whyvas> and hd?
[01:50] <lastnode> dbzdeath: if it freezes with xfce something IS wrong
[01:50] <boxerboy29> lastnode try  /join than the channel name
[01:51] <lastnode> boxerboy29: ok, i haven't used it in ages, just apt-getting it
[01:51] <lastnode> btw what was that public shell place that gave free shells?
[01:51] <dbzdeath> lastnode: it doesn't freeze it just gets so slow that the mouse is lagging and it takes like a minute or two till X will be killed after hitting ctrl + alt + backspace
[01:51] <boxerboy29> i havent used it since i found out xchat likes me better
[01:51] <lastnode> boxerboy29: i like xchat too, but i mean console
[01:51] <StylusEater_Work> lastnode: I love powerpc's
[01:51] <Whyvas> dbzdeath how much ram/hd space?
[01:51] <lastnode> is there an IM program for the console?
[01:51] <dbzdeath> Whyvas: 1gb ram 2 gb swap ... hdd space is plenty
[01:51] <lastnode> StylusEater_Work: so i gathered :)
[01:52] <dbzdeath> 6.7gb free
[01:52] <Whyvas> ??
[01:52] <lastnode> dbzdeath: tjat
[01:52] <eythian> lastnode, synaptic doesn't seem to keep logs, so I can't be sure. But I'm sure it was a gstreamer thing.
[01:52] <Whyvas> what are you doing?
[01:52] <lastnode> dbzdeath: sorry, i was gonna say that's really wierd
[01:52] <lastnode> eythian: ok cool
[01:52] <dbzdeath> Whyvas: loading up a lot of crap
[01:52] <boxerboy29> i saw naim last night its something ive never seen before lol
[01:52] <Shin_Gouki> ohaio!
[01:52] <lastnode> eythian: ever got gmail to work with a console email reader?
[01:52] <Whyvas> that's insane
[01:53] <dbzdeath> Whyvas: haha *makes mental note... setup ssh for the future..*
[01:53] <Determinist> k guys, bbl, going home :P
[01:53] <pir> Helo, Can some explain to me what is the deference between monitoring and scanning , in wireless (kismet) ? Thanks.
[01:53] <eythian> lastnode, a console IM program is centericq (it's multiprotocol, including jabber which is the only one that matters:) ... as for gmail, never tried but it should work, it supports POP3 I think.
[01:54] <lastnode> eythian: you use pine or mutt? im new to console.. how the fff do you config them?
[01:54] <lastnode> centericq does msn / yahoo?
[01:54] <Drakeson> what do I need to build-kpkg?
[01:55] <crabstic> #join kubuntu
[01:55] <eythian> lastnode, I used to use both mutt and pine. The bast way to configure mutt is to get someone elses config file and edit it :)
[01:55] <eythian> lastnode, centericq does msn and yahoo I think. I only use Jabber.
[01:55] <lastnode> eythian: thanks a lot mate
[01:55] <liable> err /j #kubuntu...
[01:56] <eythian> lastnode, oh, and wrt to MP3s, libid3tag0 and libmpeg2-4 may also help.
[01:56] <eythian> (I found synaptic does keep logs after all)
[01:56] <lastnode> eythian, thanks will apt-get them
[01:56] <lastnode> im sort of in love with console here and feel stingy to go back to X
[01:56] <lastnode> :)
[01:57] <aftertaf> looool lastnode
[01:57] <aftertaf> you are a full geek now :)
[01:57] <eythian> lastnode, the console is good. But I spent a long while in very minimal environments, now I like to enjoy the power of a full desktop environment :)
[01:57] <lastnode> eythian: :)
[01:57] <aftertaf> and lastnode you cant run frozen bubble in console ;)
[01:58] <lastnode> aftertaf: good point
[01:58] <Nvidiot> you can run doom in console tho :)
[01:58] <Shin_Gouki> hello! i have an unsusual question: i', looking for an GREAT archive of images, or a search engine which can list me svg files form the internet, anyone ideas?
[01:58] <eythian> lastnode, also, look into playing movies with mplayer and aalib or libcaca, then you'll have a true console experience. th
[01:58] <boxerboy29> you can run aim in console as soon as i figure it out
[01:58] <boxerboy29> lol
[01:59] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, google? use filetype:svg perhaps?
[01:59] <lastnode> eythian: you mean sound only? :)
[01:59] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, unfortunaly it only supports: jpg, gif , png :/
[01:59] <eythian> lastnode, hell no! full screen video in the console! all text mode!
[01:59] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, but i need svg!!
[02:00] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, nu uh: http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=filetype%3Asvg+test&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[02:00] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, if u know someone who can draw nice at the computer , it doenst have to be art
[02:00] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, heh, I'm about as artistic as a monkey with a box of crayons.
[02:00] <lastnode> eythian: no way, you're shitting me
[02:01] <eythian> lastnode, nope :)
[02:01] <StylusEater_Work> eythian: sometimes they can be very artistic...you sure you're that artistic?
[02:01] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, ur a genius, i misschoosed the image sections so there were no results, Thank u VERY much :)
[02:01] <looksaus> what's the easiest way to sync evolution between my desktop and laptop
[02:01] <looksaus> ?
[02:01] <andril> hello all
[02:02] <looksaus> I mean everything: mail, calendar, tasks?
[02:02] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, the only problem is now that i dont have any thumbnail preview right? i got to live with that i guess ^^
[02:02] <Nvidiot> use an imap mailserver?
[02:02] <all4n> are there any howto's yet for installing nvidia-glx with breezy?
[02:02] <looksaus> Nvidiot, mail AND ...
[02:02] <eythian> StylusEater_Work, heh, maybe I was overestimating myself some
[02:02] <looksaus> I wonder how far scp'ing the whole thing would get me
[02:03] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, no worries :)
[02:03] <looksaus> scp -r .evolution laptop:~/
[02:03] <boxerboy29> all4n look in your help guide (not sure if it will help) but they put an unoffical breezy guide in htere
[02:05] <eythian> lastnode, http://www.kallisti.net.nz/~robin/Screenshot-MPlayer.png
[02:05] <Hendric> wats the command to remove the ntp.ubuntulinux... sync? someone here told me.. i forgot.
[02:05] <boxerboy29> im getting the feeling nvidia and linux dont play well together
[02:05] <eythian> lastnode, that's a shot of the output from: mplayer -vo caca T3-international-tlr_m480.mov
[02:06] <fortune|cowsay> looksaus: perhaps have a look at "multisync" (although i'm not sure how it goes for evolution to evolution syncing)
[02:06] <eythian> boxerboy29, I use nvidia fine on Linux. Proprietory drivers unfortunately, but it works fine
[02:06] <looksaus> fortune|cowsay, will do, thx
[02:06] <fortune|cowsay> looksaus: yw :)
[02:06] <eythian> Hendric, remove it from /etc/ntpd.conf?
[02:06] <boxerboy29> i always see the same things tho in forums about them
[02:06] <lastnode> eythian: cant copy that uri, im in console
[02:06] <lastnode> or i dont know how to :)
[02:07] <Hendric> eythian, no.. there is command like" ntpdate remove" something.. i forgot the exact syntax
[02:07] <eythian> boxerboy29, I've only had issues caused by an underrated PSU causing the drivers and the card to flake. Otherwise it's been fine
[02:07] <dooglus> Whyvas: turned out it was nothing to do with the root password...
[02:07] <eythian> lastnode, duh. I guess a .png is no good then :) However, you _do_ have GPM installed right?
[02:08] <Hendric> dooglus, can you tell me to remove ntpdate during startup??
[02:08] <dooglus> Whyvas: the problem was that I had commented the "root    ALL=(ALL) ALL" line in /etc/sudoers several weeks ago.  I couldn't see why it was needed, since root can do everything already.
[02:08] <Hendric> dooglus, can you tell me the command to remove ntpdate during startup??
[02:08] <dooglus> Hendric: sure.
[02:08] <dooglus> Hendric: just a sec...
[02:08] <lastnode> eythian: yeah i gotta get xchat and get that link from you
[02:08] <Hendric> dooglus, tnx
[02:08] <looksaus> fortune|cowsay, it looks as if there is an evo 2 plugin, but not
[02:09] <eythian> lastnode, apt-get install gpm, and then you have console mouse support
[02:09] <nlogax> exit
[02:09] <looksaus> packaged, and only in cvs... :(
[02:09] <fortune|cowsay> looksaus: ah, ok :/
[02:10] <dooglus> Hendric: do you have packed 'file-rc' installed?  I don't know if it comes as standard
[02:11] <Hendric> dooglus, i have..
[02:12] <lastnode> eythian: how can i screenshot a console?
[02:12] <fortune|cowsay> Hendric: one (somewhat kludgy) way is "sudo rm /etc/rc*.d/S*ntp*"
[02:12] <aftertaf> Hendric:  sudo update-rc.d -f remove ntpdate
[02:12] <aftertaf> is another
[02:12] <fortune|cowsay> that's a less kludgy way :P
[02:12] <dooglus> aftertaf: I think that only works if you remove the /etc/init.d/ntpdate script?
[02:12] <eythian> lastnode, umm. I've seen it done. I think you can do something like grab the /dev/console/n or whatever the device file is called, and that's a text dump of it.
[02:13] <aftertaf> dooglus:  it dont remove the init.d script, just the symlinks in rcX.d
[02:13] <lastnode> ah
[02:13] <Hendric> aftertaf, thats wat im looking for
[02:13] <aftertaf> iirc
[02:13] <Hendric> oh.. its wrong aftertaf...
[02:13] <Hendric> should be, sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[02:13] <dooglus> aftertaf: I know, but it only removes the symlinks if the script is already gone
[02:14] <eythian> lastnode, DO NOT TOUCH /dev/console!
[02:14] <eythian> I did it just as an experiment and lost keyboard input.
[02:14] <aftertaf> dooglus:  really?
[02:14] <eythian> Which is fine in X, I could use the mouse to kill the process. Not so hot in console only
[02:14] <lastnode> eythian: didnt :)
[02:14] <lastnode> thanks
[02:14] <aftertaf> loool eythian :)
[02:14] <dooglus> aftertaf: unless you specify '-f'
[02:15] <aftertaf> i did specify -f i did i did ;)
[02:15] <eythian> good :)
[02:15] <dooglus> aftertaf: which, of course, is what you said originally :)  yeah...
[02:15] <aftertaf> hehe
[02:15] <Hendric> aftertaf: should be, sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[02:15] <dooglus> yay
[02:15] <aftertaf> yeah Hendric you are right on that
[02:15] <aftertaf> i furbied the syntax
[02:15] <aftertaf> hey, ive only had ubuntu 2 months ;)
[02:15] <Hendric> tnx to all.. restarting
[02:16] <Hendric> i've had linux for 5 days
[02:16] <aftertaf> cool
[02:16] <aftertaf> friday is your 1 week anniversary dude
[02:16] <eythian> lastnode, a safer way that also works: copy the contents of /dev/vcsX (where X is the console you want). It's a plain text dump of the screen
[02:16] <Hendric> how can i disable this update notif thing...???
[02:16] <Hendric> lolx.. been here since friday
[02:16] <lastnode> eythian: it's cool, i just wanted to send a graphical screenshot to a friend
[02:16] <lastnode> guess it cant be done
[02:16] <lastnode> :)
[02:16] <eythian> lastnode, oh, no graphics.
[02:17] <aftertaf> lastnode:  digital photo ?
[02:17] <Hendric> dooglus,  how can i disable this update notif thing...???
[02:17] <aftertaf> what update notif thing?
[02:17] <lastnode> aftertaf: heh :)
[02:17] <eythian> unless..you dump it, fire up X, display it into a terminal, and screenshot that :)
[02:17] <boxerboy29> the lil red ball?
[02:17] <dooglus> Hendric: why do that?
[02:17] <aftertaf> lastnode:  yeah :)
[02:17] <lastnode> wait ill screen it
[02:17] <lastnode> :)
[02:17] <aftertaf> is it a gnome thing?
[02:17] <Hendric> dooglus, cause i only update when i want to.. and don't want get notified on system tray
[02:17] <dooglus> it is
[02:17] <boxerboy29> its one of the things i like about ubuntu
[02:18] <aftertaf> remove from panel....
[02:18] <boxerboy29> debian sarge doesnt have it  :(
[02:18] <aftertaf> boxerboy29:  little red ball?
[02:18] <Nvidiot> http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/9/index.htm <- now *THAT* is a casemod! WOW
[02:18] <Hendric> aftertaf, you can't remove it.. unless you remove the sys tray
[02:18] <boxerboy29> lol yes after
[02:18] <dooglus> aftertaf: it's not on the panel - it's in the sys tray...
[02:18] <eythian> Hendric, I'd recommend keeping it there, but if you really want I think you can right-click it and go to properties (I haven't go it up to test, I update :)
[02:18] <dooglus> Hendric: kill the process, then save your session...  I guess.
[02:18] <boxerboy29> thats the tech term for the update notifier lol
[02:19] <aftertaf> heheok
[02:19] <dooglus> Hendric: that's how I stopped all those annoying evolution processes from starting up.
[02:19] <aftertaf> i do my apt myself....
[02:19] <aftertaf> i hate thatabout gnome... it auto saves your session like that. even when borked
[02:19] <eythian> aftertaf, you can stop it doing that
[02:19] <dooglus> aftertaf: I don't think it auto-saves it - I have to tick 'save this session' when I log out if I want it saved.
[02:20] <eythian> aftertaf, system->preferences->session
[02:20] <lastnode> ok back to study
[02:20] <aftertaf> true...... but i do prefer kde..... linux gives us choice :)
[02:20] <aftertaf> looool lastnode again?
[02:20] <lastnode> is there anyway to funk up my console?
[02:20] <lastnode> like put a background?
[02:20] <lastnode> while inside X i mean
[02:20] <aftertaf> lastnode:  eterm :)
[02:21] <aftertaf> depends on console
[02:21] <dooglus> I guess he means virtual console
[02:21] <lastnode> aftertaf: apt get eterm?
[02:21] <dooglus> like Ctl-Alt-F1 console
[02:21] <eythian> lastnode, eterm, for sure. It's pretty nice. I always went for tinted translucenscy myself. (Konsole does that too)
[02:21] <Hendric> i can't kill it lol
[02:21] <aftertaf> yep lastnode what i use. though Konsole too.
[02:21] <aftertaf> Hendric:  hehe
[02:21] <dooglus> gnome-terminal even can have transparent background
[02:21] <aftertaf> gonna use konsole.....
[02:22] <lastnode> eterm is a bash clone?
[02:22] <aftertaf> lastnode:  hence screen too.... i can change terminal and recover my session :)
[02:22] <dooglus> edit->current profile->effects - can set background image or transparency
[02:22] <eythian> gnome-terminal is also translucentable
[02:22] <eythian> lastnode, it's a terminal emulator, runs in X like gnome-term and Konsole
[02:22] <dooglus> it's fake of course - it just shows your wallpaper through the background, not the windows beneath it
[02:22] <eythian> zsh is a nice bash replacement
[02:22] <eythian> dooglus, yeah, but I prefer that.
[02:22] <Jedrick> i have problem installing speedtouch it says. " no usb bus found! "
[02:22] <Jedrick> why is that?
[02:23] <eythian> which reminds me, anyone know how I can get random background switching with Gnome?
[02:23] <Hendric> if i removed everything related to cups.. should it affect any program?? coz i don't print from here...
[02:23] <lastnode> eythian: how can i set it to work on defualt?
[02:23] <Hendric> i don't want it running since i don't need it... is that cool enough?
[02:23] <eythian> lastnode, huh?
[02:23] <lastnode> ok bbiab, study
[02:24] <Jedrick> anyone?
[02:24] <eythian> Hendric, it might not let you uninstall them, they're possibly part of the base ssytem.
[02:24] <lastnode> eythian: when i click on the root terminal icon in ubuntu it pops up a terminal for me
[02:24] <lastnode> how can i get eterm to be my default?
[02:24] <Hendric> eythian, i just did.. lolx
[02:24] <CookedGryphon> can somebody help me, I can't get gaim, updates, email to work thru my uni's network
[02:25] <eythian> lastnode, preferences->preffered applications
[02:25] <CookedGryphon> but the web works fine cos i set the proxy setting seperately
[02:25] <boxerboy29> cups installs with base system so no i dont think you can get rid of all cups related items but never done it either
[02:25] <Jedrick> can someone help me please
[02:25] <eythian> Hendric, OK then, I guess it's safe :)
[02:25] <Jedrick> i have problem installing speedtouch it says. " no usb bus found! "
[02:25] <dooglus> Hendric: you don't need cups if you don't print...
[02:25] <eythian> Jedrick, what says that? The computer or the speedtouch?
[02:25] <Nvidiot> where do I go to *enable* the screensaver when I unplug my laptop? When on AC it runs the screensaver, but as soon as I unplug it stops
[02:26] <dooglus> boxerboy29: you can uninstall base components.  it tells you it's going to remove 'ubuntu-base' or some such, but you can just let it - it's only a 'meta-package' anyway
[02:26] <Hendric> dooglus, is there any way to speed up my other system.. i mean video acceleration stuffs. it got VIA CHROME onboard video
[02:26] <Jedrick> the computer
[02:26] <eythian> But make sure you reinstall ubuntu-base before you upgrade to breezy
[02:26] <boxerboy29> dooglus cups you dont need but the libs for cups you might need
[02:26] <eythian> Jedrick, do other USB devices work?
[02:27] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  is it a speedtouch usb modem?
[02:27] <Jedrick> dont know
[02:27] <Jedrick> i have only one usb attached. only the modem
[02:27] <Hendric> if i need some cups lib.. proly apt-get will tell me if i install...
[02:27] <Jedrick> yes
[02:27] <Jedrick> its a speedtouch
[02:27] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  have you ever got it working?
[02:27] <boxerboy29> true
[02:27] <Jedrick> i got the error when I issue this comand ./speedtouchconf.sh
[02:27] <eythian> Jedrick, where do you see the message? In the logs? What program is showing it?
[02:27] <ghb> Is there a pre-compiled version of Emacs available?
[02:27] <Jedrick> aftertaf: nope
[02:27] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  its the script that is at fault.
[02:27] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  using 2.0 beta or latest stable?
[02:28] <Jedrick> k how to fix this?
[02:28] <eythian> ghb, apt-get install emacs ?
[02:28] <Jedrick> latest stable
[02:28] <Jedrick> but i also have beta
[02:28] <aftertaf> oki.  try with 2.0 beta
[02:28] <dooglus> boxerboy29: if you try to uninstall the libs and it tells you it's going to take a bunch of stuff with it, just say no.  otherwise you should be fine.
[02:28] <Jedrick> ok
[02:28] <aftertaf> i used it before......
[02:28] <Jedrick> one more thing
[02:28] <aftertaf> butu now am on ethernet
[02:28] <Jedrick> about my vpi and vci
[02:28] <Jedrick> whats my vpi and vci
[02:28] <aftertaf> where are you?
[02:28] <Jedrick> im from asia
[02:28] <ghb> eythian: Doesn't work -- says that that package doesn't exist.
[02:28] <Jedrick> philippines
[02:28] <aftertaf> f*ck
[02:28] <Nvidiot> Jedrick: those are ISP specific
[02:29] <aftertaf> no idea man.
[02:29] <dooglus> ghb: compile the CVS sources - you know it makes sense!  the 'stable' emacs is really old now.
[02:29] <aftertaf> do you have zindope?
[02:29] <aftertaf> Jedrick:
[02:29] <dooglus> ghb: I think it might be 'emacs-common' you need?
[02:29] <Jedrick> dont know
[02:29] <Jedrick> i think not
[02:29] <Jedrick> im juz new to linux
[02:29] <ghb> dooglus: I'm new to Linux, so please, be gentle. =)
[02:29] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  sorry.. i should have said Windows.
[02:29] <dooglus> ghb: emacs21: usr/bin/emacs21
[02:29] <dooglus> the package 'emacs21' provides the file '/usr/bin/emacs21'
[02:30] <Jedrick> yes
[02:30] <Discipulus> Anyone here have Verizon for their DSL provider?
[02:30] <Hendric> Gartoon is so cool....
[02:30] <dooglus> ghb, if you run 'system->synaptic', you can search for packages there.
[02:30] <Discipulus> Jedrick, did you have to use a Windows machine to set it up originally?
[02:30] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  ok. the alcatel drivers should tell you, click on the taskbar icon next to the clock
[02:30] <ghb> dooglus: Can't find it. =(
[02:30] <aftertaf> speedtouch usb can be a real nightmare
[02:30] <dooglus> ghb, can you find synaptic?
[02:30] <aftertaf> been there done that, over 2 yrs with debian and mandrake
[02:31] <eythian> ghb, hit search and type in 'emacs' The package you want is emacs21
[02:31] <ghb> dooglus: I can find something that says "Add programs"
[02:31] <Discipulus> Anyone use Verizon DSL?
[02:31] <dooglus> ghb is this breezy?
[02:31] <eythian> ghb, oh...go to that 'add/remove programs' thing, and hit advanced
[02:31] <Hendric> dooglus, can you help me view movie streams on firefox.. just like the good 'ol IE days...
[02:31] <ghb> dooglus: Yeah
[02:31] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  you found the vci vpi?
[02:31] <ghb> eythian: ok. Shit, my battery is getting low..
[02:32] <dooglus> ghb, in 'system->administation->synaptic' you should see 'synapic' too.
[02:32] <eythian> actually, emacs is just in add/remvoe programs, under accessories.
[02:32] <ghb> dooglus: I'm there now.
[02:33] <dooglus> eythian: in 'add applications' I put "emacs" into the box at the bottom, hit return, and it found 3 things, but none of them were emacs!
[02:33] <Nvidiot> Embedded Video Support in Mozilla/Firefox: Many websites allow users to watch streaming audio and video online through an embedded media player. In order to get this support in Ubuntu install mplayer-386 (or the correct version for your architecture) and mozilla-mplayer from the Multiverse repository. This will allow you to play Quicktime, Windows Media, MPEG, and RealVideo streams through Mozilla and Mozilla-Firefox.
[02:33] <ghb> dooglus: Now I find a bunch of emacs
[02:33] <dooglus> ghb: good :)
[02:33] <ghb> dooglus: But which to pick?
[02:33] <lastnode> how can i kill a screen
[02:33] <lastnode> a screen that im in?
[02:33] <Nvidiot> dooglus: use the search button :)
[02:33] <dooglus> ghb: pick "emacs21"
[02:33] <aftertaf> lastnode:  CTL A + ? gives you all commands ;)
[02:33] <dooglus> Nvidiot, I reckon that's the same as hitting return.
[02:34] <eythian> lastnode, ctrl-a k I think. ctrl-a ? for help
[02:34] <Hendric> nice one Nvidiot ... gotta try that
[02:34] <Nvidiot> dooglus: uh, yea :)
[02:34] <dooglus> yup
[02:34] <ghb> dooglus: *yaaay* Now something's happening! Thank you!
[02:34] <Nvidiot> Hendric: it's on the RestrictedFormats wiki
[02:34] <dooglus> Nvidiot: my point is, it's not finding emacs.
[02:34] <eythian> heh. guess that worked
[02:34] <ghb> eythian: Yeah. =)
[02:34] <aftertaf> lol
[02:35] <eythian> Right, I'm going to bed. I have a head cold to sleep off.
[02:35] <dooglus> eythian: you see 'emacs' under 'accessories' in breezy?  'cos I don't!
[02:35] <aftertaf> wb
[02:35] <ghb> Must disconnect now -- got like 15 minutes left on my battery!
[02:35] <eythian> Not on breezy, I'm on hoary
[02:35] <eythian> lastnode, I see that you worked it out :)
[02:35] <lastnode> thanks aftertaf as you can see it worked :)
[02:35] <dooglus> eythian: oh.  looks like it's been dropped :)
[02:35] <aftertaf> hehe
[02:35] <eythian> dooglus, how odd. Oh well.
[02:35] <lastnode> heh
[02:35] <Nvidiot> if I search for emacs in synaptic, I find a *lot* of stuff (a lot of addons as well as emacs21)
[02:36] <eythian> yep. that's cos emacs does everything
[02:36] <aftertaf> what is emacs?
[02:36] <boxerboy29> lol
[02:36] <boxerboy29> i asked that this morning
[02:36] <dooglus> Nvidiot: in synaptic, yes, but not in the "add applications" tool
[02:36] <eythian> aftertaf, it's an editor that is almost, but not quite, as good as vi :)
[02:36] <aftertaf> i thought it was like vi
[02:36] <dooglus> eythian: heh
[02:36] <Nvidiot> dooglus: oh, donno about that
[02:37] <dreamwave> good morning.  can i configure gnome to use alsa instead of esound?  what I really want is to have systems sounds come out of hw:0 and music to come out of hw:1.
[02:37] <aftertaf> but it can do everything?
[02:37] <aftertaf> !start a editor war
[02:37] <boxerboy29> emacs=text editor, computer by apple, operating system, so on and so forth :(
[02:37] <ubotu> Wish i knew, aftertaf
[02:37] <dooglus> I guess the reasoning goes: "add applications is for newbies; emacs is for wizards; let's not put emacs in 'add applications'"
[02:37] <aftertaf> !start an editor war
[02:37] <ubotu> gvim is better than emacs
[02:37] <ccooke> *laugh*
[02:37] <eythian> dooglus, makes some sense, yeah.
[02:38] <ccooke> aftertaf: how can that start a war? It's *obviously* true...
[02:38] <eythian> renedox, ah, another orcon user :)
[02:38] <aftertaf> but its just an editor? or thats were it becomes funky, right?
[02:38] <boxerboy29> anyone have a site for emac os?
[02:38] <aftertaf> lol ccooke :)
[02:38] <renedox> eythian: :)
[02:38] <dooglus> it's an editor which can read email, browse the web, play tetris, etc, etc.
[02:38] <rawiramdhan> how do I connect to windows shared folders with commands?
[02:39] <dooglus> basically it's extensible to do whatever you want it to do
[02:39] <moparfan90> hello. im trying to open a file called .xsession to add something to it... cal someone tell me what its called and where it is please
[02:39] <eythian> boxerboy29, http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html
[02:39] <rawiramdhan> moparfan90:  home folder:)
[02:39] <renedox> moparfan90: locate .xsession
[02:39] <Nvidiot> what's the difference between emacs and xemacs?
[02:39] <knubbe> Anyone who got trouble with the network after the last days updates?
[02:39] <dooglus> rawiramdhan: install smbfs, and then "alias smb-mount-server-dokumenty='sudo mount -t smbfs -o password=,uid=chris //server/dokumenty ~/smb/server/dokumenty'"
[02:39] <eythian> rawiramdhan, smbmount //computer/folder /mnt/mountpoint
[02:39] <knubbe> my eth1/wlan stopped working today. :-/
[02:39] <rawiramdhan> thanx:D
[02:40] <mirak> anyone knows how to make samba share to "just works" and "just share", because that's really a pain
[02:40] <eythian> mirak, huh?
[02:40] <moparfan90> i only have a files called .xsession-errors
[02:40] <moparfan90> not .xsession
[02:40] <mirak> eythian: I have two ubuntu box, and it doesn't work
[02:41] <dooglus> moparfan90: ubuntu doesn't use .xsession by default
[02:41] <mirak> either the server of the shares doesn't show up n nautilus
[02:41] <mirak> in
[02:41] <dooglus> moparfan90: GNOME uses ".gnomerc" instead
[02:41] <eythian> the first thing I do for smll LAN samba shares is add security = share to smb.conf
[02:41] <moparfan90> im not in gnome
[02:41] <moparfan90> blackbox
[02:41] <dooglus> moparfan90: hmmm.  don't know then.
[02:41] <moparfan90> ok
[02:42] <moparfan90> thanks any way
[02:42] <dooglus> moparfan90: try making a .xsession in your home directory
[02:42] <moparfan90> bbl
[02:42] <eythian> mirak, however, don't use samba for between Linux machines. Use NFS. Samba (used to, at least) cause me no end of problems between Linux machines.
[02:42] <mirak> eythian: so graphical tools are useless ?
[02:42] <dooglus> moparfan90: it might get run - try it!
[02:42] <renedox> um.. why are the backport repos giving 404s?
[02:42] <eythian> mirak, I've always set up samba by hand, so I'm not sure if there's a GUI way to do it. but you make that change, and all the shares should just show up in the network browser
[02:43] <renedox> does anyone know?
[02:44] <eythian> if you don't do the security=share you need to deal with accounts and so on.
[02:44] <renedox> or am I talking to myself again...? :|
[02:44] <eythian> anyway, I'm going to bed! cy'all
[02:44] <Kuolio> umm, my gnome-system-manager is crashing when I try to change my accounts password.. how do I do it from CLI?
[02:44] <renedox> 'night eythian
[02:44] <kikinovak> Hi. I'm a Slack veteran actually migrating to Ubuntu, which I like very much. I mainly used KDE until now, but GNOME seems to be better integrated (found a couple of nasty bugs in Kubuntu). Q: can I still use the odd KDE app in GNOME?
[02:44] <renedox> Kuolio: passwd
[02:44] <renedox> kikinovak: yes
[02:45] <kikinovak> renedox what will I need for this? QT? kdebase?
[02:45] <CookedGryphon> can somebody help me, I can't get gaim, updates and email to work thru my uni's network, but the net works fine, what port does the update thing use?
[02:45] <lorenzod> kikinovak: there are a few apps, such as music players that may not work so well.
[02:45] <renedox> kikinovak: no idea, kdelibs?
[02:45] <kikinovak> lorenzod sh...... because I'm a big fan of Juk
[02:46] <dooglus> CookedGryphon: it uses http or ftp, depending on what you specify in the URLs in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:46] <lorenzod> Well, does JuK support gstreamer?
[02:46] <Skid> kikinovak: afaik it's the qt libs you'll need
[02:46] <lorenzod> In that case you could play through that in Gnome.
[02:46] <kikinovak> what's gstreamer?
[02:46] <Kuolio> renedox: thanks :)
[02:46] <renedox> Kuolio: no problem :)
[02:46] <Skid> kikinovak: besdies, if you install via apt/synaptic - it'll show you the deps it needs
[02:46] <Hendric> anyone here tried viewing launch.yahoo.com with success?? mozilla-mplayer didn't do it...
[02:46] <aftertaf> kikinovak:  you do your apt-get install and the depepndecies will be shown ;)
[02:46] <Skid> beat ya, aftertaf ;P
[02:46] <CookedGryphon> dooglus, why won't it work then? i have set the connections settings in firefox to an autoconfig url, and then i set the same things in the preferences-network proxy box, and it doesn't work
[02:47] <kikinovak> Skid I used Debian back in 2001, so I prefer commandline apt-get
[02:47] <kikinovak> :o)
[02:47] <Skid> yeah, I came to ubuntu from debian
[02:47] <Skid> just couldn't be arsed with it for a desktop :)
[02:47] <Skid> but this has kinda breathed life back into it for me :)
[02:47] <lorenzod> kikinovac: http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org
[02:47] <Skid> man, i really should go - gotta repair my partners car, of which i broke the wingmirror off, driving into a bus :O(
[02:48] <kikinovak> Skid but what's gstreamer (hands back the chocolate bar to take a bite...)
[02:48] <dooglus> CookedGryphon: I guess the update thing uses curl or wget, rather than using firefox.  I don't know where you need to put your proxy settings, but when I've been behind a nasty firewall it's worked OK
[02:48] <aftertaf> Skid:  pffffffffffffff
[02:48] <aftertaf> :p
[02:48] <Skid> kikinovak: I have not used it, so not sure :P
[02:48] <Hendric> anyone here could help me?? need to view launch.yahoo.com of similar sites in firefox (ubuntu)
[02:48] <Skid> link ^^ ;p
[02:48] <Skid> bbl ! :] 
[02:48] <aftertaf> lol
[02:48] <lorenzod> gstreamer is a media framework.
[02:49] <Hendric> aftertaf, any ideas?
[02:49] <CookedGryphon> jsut a minute.. this works! xchat works and i didn't set it uip seperately, so the general proxy settings must b there right? y doesn't it work then?
[02:49] <rawiramdhan> I tried this command to connect to my windows share sudo mount -t smbfs //rawi/SharedDocs /home/administrator/ username=adminstrator
[02:49] <rawiramdhan> but it doesn't work
[02:49] <aftertaf> Hendric:  yep... Eminem is filing a lawsuit over ring tones...
[02:49] <dooglus> rawiramdhan: look at this example: sudo mount -t smbfs -o password=,uid=chris //server/dokumenty ~/smb/server/dokumenty
[02:50] <aftertaf> No plugin found for 'Shockwave Flash Media'. <<<--------there isnt one for linux
[02:50] <rawiramdhan>  sudo mount -t smbfs -o password=,uid=chris //server/dokumenty
[02:50] <rawiramdhan>                  ~/smb/server/dokumenty
[02:50] <dooglus> "-o" before the options, for example
[02:50] <lorenzod> CookedGryphon: firefox doesn't use the "general proxy" settings.
[02:50] <TobiTobsen> hi! has anybody here networkmanager running with wep?
[02:50] <Skid> feck it, i;ll take it to the garage later
[02:50] <Skid> wep's for wusses ;P
[02:50] <Skid> use mac filtering, pure speed baby ;)
[02:50] <Nvidiot> TobiTobsen: WPA-PSK here
[02:50] <aftertaf> lol Skid
[02:51] <Hendric> anyone here could help me?? need to view launch.yahoo.com and similar sites in firefox (ubuntu)
[02:51] <Skid> (mainly cos i cba setting up 17 machines with wep keys ;P)
[02:51] <TobiTobsen> my problem is that the key is in the keyringmanager and at bootup it can't access it
[02:51] <dooglus> Skid: isn't it very easy to fake your MAC address?
[02:51] <rawiramdhan> udo mount -t smbfs -o password=,uid=chris //server/dokumenty
[02:51] <rawiramdhan>  ~/smb/server/dokumenty
[02:51] <Nvidiot> dooglus: yes it is
[02:51] <Skid> dooglus: yep
[02:52] <Skid> BUT
[02:52] <dooglus> Skid: so re - go on?
[02:52] <Skid> eh?
[02:52] <Skid> Hendric: launch.yahoo.com works fine here?
[02:52] <CookedGryphon> lorenzod, so where do i set the general proxy settings and get everythign to use them?
[02:52] <dooglus> Skid: I was going to say something, but you stopped me with your "BUT"...
[02:52] <Skid> i forgot
[02:52] <Skid> heh
[02:52] <Skid> oh, yeah the clients here have 0 technical know how
[02:52] <Skid> and I monitor our network v.closely
[02:52] <Skid> sooooooooooo :)
[02:53] <dooglus> Skid: it's not the clients you're worried about.  it's the hacker in his car outside.
[02:53] <lorenzod> CookedGryphon: Gnome applications will use the settings in System->Preferences->Network Proxy
[02:53] <TobiTobsen> anybody an idea how to store the password permanantly in networkmanager?
[02:53] <Skid> not much signal will really leak anyway - besides there's more open wifis points here anyway :)
[02:53] <lorenzod> Firefox has its own setting, but I can't remember where, since I don't use it.
[02:53] <Hendric> Skid,  tells me i can't view videos..
[02:53] <lorenzod> Epiphany uses the Gnome proxy settings.
[02:53] <Skid> Hendric: install the flash-plugin for ffx? :)
[02:53] <CookedGryphon> lorenzod, i did that and it hasnt worked
[02:54] <Skid> ffx did it auto for me
[02:54] <CookedGryphon> synaptic for example doesn't connect
[02:54] <CookedGryphon> but xchat does
[02:54] <erich> I'd like to setup a machine which only displays the "nagios" webpage - what is the easiest way to set this up with ubuntu (i.e. which browser to display only that page etc.)?
[02:54] <Hendric> Skid, flash?? i need to view video streams.. not flash
[02:54] <Skid> ooh
[02:54] <dooglus> firefox's proxy settings are in edit->preferences->general->connection settings
[02:54] <Skid> sorr
[02:54] <lorenzod> CookedGryphon: synaptic also has its own settings.
[02:54] <CookedGryphon> i have firefox workign fine
[02:54] <lorenzod> Because synaptic is not either a Gnome application.
[02:54] <CookedGryphon> mkay
[02:54] <Skid> erich: personally i'd firewall everything off, exepct access to port 80 on the httpd's box's ip ? :P
[02:55] <Skid> or whatever port nagios uses
[02:55] <rawiramdhan>  sudo mount -t smbfs -o password=,uid=administrator  //rawi/SharedDocs ~/../rawi <== doesnt' work
[02:55] <erich> Skid: i'm referring to the UI mostly
[02:55] <Skid> oh
[02:55] <erich> Skid: so people can't mess much with the box at all. not even play solitaire on it. ;-)
[02:56] <Skid> erich: i don't really know - im sure some chap in here runs an internet cafe who restricts access
[02:56] <Skid> i guess you could alter the permissions on most binaries? :)
[02:56] <Skid> but hassle++
[02:56] <lorenzod> I have a problem in recent Nautilus: I can no longer connect to FTP "mounts".
[02:57] <rawiramdhan> administrator@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t smbfs -o password=,uid=administrator  //rawi/SharedDocs ~/../rawi
[02:57] <rawiramdhan> params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: "testparm" to check that you have not many any basic syntactic
[02:57] <rawiramdhan> why this error:S
[02:57] <lorenzod> Does anybody know if gnome-vfs uses PASV by default?
[02:58] <Shin_Gouki> hi! plz dont kill me : does anybody know a good MS office tutorial(website) for Power Point?
[02:58] <erich> Skid: I wouldn't go that far; I'd just like to have a browser I can run fullscreen (with no WM or gnome panel) and maybe prevent the user from accessing any menu...
[02:58] <Skid> hmm
[02:58] <rawiramdhan> power point is sow easy:S why need a tutorial?
[02:58] <all4n> hey, I have downloaded the nvidia driver, ran it, and it compiled nicely with gcc-3.4. The problem now is that X is complaining that my nvidia kernel module is 7174, but the driver is 7667. Any ideas?
[02:58] <lorenzod> rawiramdhan: your smb configuration file probably has errors.
[02:58] <Shin_Gouki> i need i want diffrent master..
[02:58] <rawiramdhan> lorenzod: its default:S
[02:59] <erich> all4n: the nvidia driver consist of two parts.
[02:59] <erich> all4n: seems like you built only one.
[02:59] <Jitsumi> YES!
[02:59] <lorenzod> rawiramdhan: Well, 'defaults' have had errors before..
[02:59] <bigfoot1> anybody here using synce?
[02:59] <rawiramdhan> lorenzod: that sucks for noobs like me:S
[02:59] <bigfoot1> i need help with synce. If you use synce or know about it, raise your hand.
[02:59] <all4n> erich, wouldn't the driver I downloaded also compile a kernel module?
[02:59] <lorenzod> rawiramdhan: have you tried running testparm?
[03:00] <lorenzod> It may give you some hints.
[03:00] <renedox> so... would anyone like to answer my question I asked ages ago?
[03:00] <renedox> lol
[03:00] <erich> all4n: maybe only if you tell it to do so. does it have access to your kernel headers?
[03:00] <erich> I don't have nvidia any more
[03:00] <renedox> why are the backport repos giving 404s?
[03:00] <erich> renedox: because the inofficial backports were discontinued?
[03:00] <all4n> erich, it should have..  I do have them installed. Would it not complain if they were not installed?
[03:01] <erich> all4n: also did you unload the module and load the new one?
[03:01] <all4n> erich, or if it does not have access?
[03:01] <lorenzod> renedox: because you should use the official backports instead?
[03:01] <rawiramdhan> lorenzod: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: "testparm" to check that you have not many any basic syntactic
[03:01] <all4n> erich, oh
[03:01] <rawiramdhan> Processing section "[homes] "
[03:01] <rawiramdhan> Processing section "[printers] "
[03:01] <rawiramdhan> Processing section "[print$] "
[03:01] <all4n> erich, nope. How do I do that?
[03:01] <rawiramdhan> Processing section "[Shaerd] "
[03:01] <erich> all4n: rmmod nvidia
[03:01] <lorenzod> rawiramdhan: do you get that when you run testparm itself?
[03:01] <bigfoot1> nobody in this chatroom has a pocketpc+
[03:01] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:01] <rawiramdhan> yes
[03:01] <Skid> i do
[03:01] <Skid> ipaq 4150
[03:01] <Skid> :] 
[03:01] <all4n> erich, okay, trying!  thanks matie!
[03:02] <rawiramdhan> and home / printers / print shared <-- these all look o.k
[03:02] <bigfoot1> rawiramdhan, skid: you do? do you sync it with ubuntu?
[03:02] <Skid> bigfoot1: synce
[03:02] <lorenzod> rawiramdhan: shared or Shaerd?
[03:02] <Skid> search the forums for 'ipaq'
[03:02] <Skid> that's what I did, and I found some post on installing synce - works fine
[03:02] <bigfoot1> Skid,  i have searched forums for ipaq. I saw the howto. but it's not helping me.
[03:02] <bigfoot1> Skid, can you help me?
[03:02] <bigfoot1> please?
[03:02] <rawiramdhan> lorenzod: shaerd :)
[03:03] <Hendric> oh men.. trillian works fine on crossover... bye gaim?
[03:03] <Skid> mine just works - I checked /var/log/messages and it saw the usb connection
[03:03] <lorenzod> rawiramdhan: ok.
[03:03] <bigfoot1> Skid, i mean, it IS a help, but not enough to help me overcome this problem.
[03:03] <Skid> what problem?
[03:04] <bigfoot1> skid, when i type"sudo synce-serial-start", i get /usr/share/synce/synce-serial-common: line 58: kill: (9417) - No such process.    Warning!  You have firewall rules that may prevent SynCE from working properly! synce-serial-start is now waiting for your device to connect
[03:04] <bigfoot1> skid, for one, i don't have any firewall.
[03:05] <Skid> bigfoot1: erm, I'm not sure - do you have ip tables loaded?
[03:05] <bigfoot1> Skid, what are ip tables?
[03:05] <bigfoot1> is that for internet?
[03:05] <Skid> bigfoot1: some firewalling software
[03:05] <Skid> bigfoot1: it may be worth posting on the forums for help - as I don't relaly know - maybe apt-get remove --purge synce; then re-install it
[03:05] <Skid> so it removes all traces of it
[03:05] <bigfoot1> Skid, how do i know if ip tables is loaded? (I don't think I do)
[03:06] <dooglus> I downloaded a .deb file that was compiled for sarge, and I'm trying to install in on breezy.  It seems to be OK, apart from one dependancy...
[03:06] <Skid> iptables --list i think
[03:06] <Skid> dooglus: I think you can apt-get -f install
[03:06] <Skid> and it'll install any missing deps for you
[03:06] <dooglus> It wants "libzipios++0c102", but I have "libzipios++0".  Can I tell dkpg not to worry, and install anyway?
[03:06] <dooglus> Skid: that just removes the dodgy package...
[03:07] <Skid> hum
[03:07] <erich> dooglus: it won't work.
[03:07] <dooglus> erich: whu?
[03:07] <dooglus> erich: why?
[03:07] <erich> dooglus: C++ API differences
[03:07] <dooglus> erich: is there a debian version which has a binary compatible C++ interface with breezy?
[03:08] <erich> dooglus: the sarge package is built with g++ 3, it won't work if your libraries are build with g++ 4
[03:08] <bigfoot1> skid, i did iptables --list. output is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2794
[03:08] <erich> dooglus: the one in unstable.
[03:08] <dooglus> erich: ok, thanks.
[03:08] <erich> dooglus: isn't enigma in ubuntu universe, too?
[03:08] <Skid> bigfoot1: you do have firewalling then
[03:08] <bigfoot1> skid, i do?
[03:08] <dooglus> I don't suppose anyone knows of breezy 'wesnoth' packages, do they?
[03:08] <bigfoot1> skid, i don't remember turning it on?
[03:08] <bigfoot1> .
[03:08] <lorenzod> dooglus: I only know they are there..
[03:09] <bigfoot1> skid, how can you tell I have a firewall on?
[03:09] <Skid> i'll paste my output :)
[03:09] <lorenzod> Doesn't anybody know if gnome-vfs uses PASV by default for FTP.
[03:09] <bigfoot1> skid, i did install firestarter once, but i don't have it on in my taskbar.
[03:09] <Skid> bigfoot1: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2795
[03:09] <Skid> run firestarter from the CLI then, and see if you can disable it
[03:09] <dooglus> lorenzod: they are where?
[03:09] <erich> dooglus: oh, wesnoth does use zipios, too? ;-) didn't know that.
[03:10] <erich> dooglus: did you check universe?
[03:10] <dooglus> erich, aye
[03:10] <lorenzod> dooglus: in universe..
[03:10] <dooglus> lorenzod: I think universe has a pre 1.0 version
[03:11] <bigfoot1> skid, okay. i turned it off now. (I didn't realize it was on since the day i installed it!) I
[03:11] <erich> yep, apparently it's 0.9.7
[03:11] <dooglus> erich: wesnoth released 1.0 recently
[03:11] <Skid> bigfoot1: ok, try and kill any synce apps first, then start the serial sync up
[03:11] <bigfoot1> skid, i did "sudo synce-serial-start" again, and no more firewalling error. but i still get "/usr/share/synce/synce-serial-common: line 58: kill: (9552) - No such process". Why?
[03:12] <erich> dooglus: yes, and it's in debian unstable, too. but that is not the version you were trying to install...
[03:12] <bigfoot1> Skid, how do i kill?
[03:12] <Skid> bigfoot1: re-install the software, see if that helps
[03:12] <Skid> im not to sure - did you follow the how-to proper;y?
[03:12] <lorenzod> dooglus, sorry, didn't know you were looking for 1.0
[03:12] <bigfoot1> skid, how do i kill any synce apps? shouldn't we try killing first before re-installing?
[03:12] <Skid> ps aux|grep synce
[03:12] <Skid> will list any
[03:13] <lorenzod> That will have to wait 'til DD
[03:13] <dooglus> erich: debian unstable only has a release candidate?
[03:13] <Skid> then kill <pid>
[03:13] <erich> dooglus: 1.0 was uploaded the day before yesterday
[03:13] <bigfoot1> To anyone: Can anyone telll me how to kill any synce apps that are currently running?
[03:13] <Dolm|SMC|Work> whats the method of changing display settings from the command line? my desktop loads but i only get about 8 colots and it's very very hard to make anything out
[03:13] <dooglus> erich: oh, ok.  thanks!  :)
[03:13] <knubbe> Is it possible to go back in versions with apt-get?
[03:13] <Dolm|SMC|Work> colors*
[03:13] <Skid> colours* ;P
[03:13] <all4n> erich, rmmod nvidia did not work..  X still complains that the kernel module is 7174 while the driver is 7667
[03:14] <ccooke> knubbe: yes
[03:14] <Skid> bigfoot1: ps aux|grep synce - that'll show you if any are running
[03:14] <ccooke> knubbe: you can go to any specific version you like
[03:14] <Skid> right, time to make some lunch..
[03:14] <bigfoot1> Skid,  I got:      9885  0.0  0.2   3768   720 pts/0    S+   22:15   0:00 grep synce
[03:14] <dooglus> knubbe: you can, but it's not straightforward.  first you have to track down the old .deb file, then you edit /etc/apt/preferences to tell it to use the old version
[03:14] <ccooke> knubbe: Each application lists versions in the changelog - look at /usr/share/doc/packagename/changelog.Debian.gz
[03:14] <bigfoot1> skid, i tried "kill 9885" and "kill 3768". Neither works.
[03:15] <aftertaf> !tell Jedrick about mount
[03:15] <emX> bigfoot1: PID 9885 appears to be your grep command, not the sync itself
[03:15] <knubbe> ccooke/dooglus: great! thanks alot!
[03:15] <ccooke> knubbe: then type apt-get install packagename=version
[03:15] <erich> all4n: then you didn't install the driver module correctly
[03:15] <bigfoot1> emX, i see. so does the output mean that there are no synce apps running?
[03:15] <dooglus> knubbe: ccooke seems to know more about it than me - I only did this once
[03:15] <erich> all4n: use module-assistant if that exists on ubuntu, too.
[03:16] <emX> bigfoot1: yes, if that's the only line you saw in your output.
[03:16] <knubbe> ccooke/dooglus: my wlan was disabled after latest apt-get update, and i cant get it working.
[03:16] <dooglus> ccooke: where does apt-get find old versions of packages?
[03:16] <emX> bigfoot1: another way to check: pgrep -lf sync
[03:16] <Nvidiot> knubbe: ndis?
[03:16] <all4n> does not seem like it..  well, I'll go back to searching ubuntu forums.. hopefully should be a solution hiding around there..  thanks anyways
[03:16] <emX> dooglus: same place it gets new packages...
[03:16] <mahangu> i got eterm via apt-get
[03:16] <bigfoot1> emx, tried pgrep -lf sync. no output. i guess there's no sync apps running, right?
[03:16] <mahangu> how do i use it?
[03:17] <emX> mahangu: run 'Eterm'
[03:17] <emX> bigfoot1: yep
[03:17] <Hendric> ey, is it possible to automount an NFS drive? like it mounts automatically if the server is online...
[03:17] <bigfoot1> emx, gotcha, but after I run "sudo synce-serial-start", why do i get "/usr/share/synce/synce-serial-common: line 58: kill: (9851) - No such process"?
[03:18] <bigfoot1> emx, is it telling me to kill something?
[03:18] <boxerboy29> to uninstall is aot-get clean?
[03:18] <bigfoot1> emx, or what does it mean?
[03:18] <emX> bigfoot1: i don't think so; it seems like *it's* trying to kill something that isn't running.
[03:18] <Hendric> anyone?
[03:18] <dooglus> emX: it gets firefox from here, for example: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/ - that's full of 1.0.7 versions.  where are the 1.0.6 and 1.0.5 versions?
[03:18] <emX> bigfoot1: i don't know anything specifically about synce, though...
[03:18] <knubbe> Nvidiot: i dont know if i use ndis <g>. sorry im very new to this. but i think it stopped working while some acpi-packages was updated.
[03:18] <bigfoot1> emX, okay.
[03:18] <emX> Hendric: yes; you need to add a line to your /etc/fstab
[03:18] <bigfoot1> emX, much thanks .
[03:18] <emX> bigfoot1: of course. good luck
[03:19] <Nvidiot> knubbe: did you install the windows driver for it or a builtin driver?
[03:19] <mahangu> can you change backgrounds in gnome-terminal?
[03:19] <Hendric> emX, it just mounts if the client was turned on before the server...
[03:19] <emX> Hendric: ??
[03:20] <Hendric> i mean if i turned on my client... then it won't mount the server if its online...
[03:20] <knubbe> Nvidiot: it was auto-detected. it didnt work with the original 5.10 breezy preview install, but after apt-get dist-upgrade it worked.
[03:20] <dreamwave> ahhhh. xmms.  using the soundcard i want.
[03:20] <Hendric> i mean if i turned on my client... then it won't mount the server if its OFFLINE
[03:20] <Nvidiot> knubbe: ah, don't know then, sorry
[03:20] <ccooke> dooglus: sorry, was busy for a second there.
[03:20] <emX> Hendric: right...it can't connect to the server when the server's offline...
[03:20] <dooglus> s'ok
[03:20] <knubbe> Nvidiot: np. ill try to downgrade.
[03:20] <dooglus> i'm still interested though...
[03:20] <ccooke> dooglus: the apt repository stores many different versions of each package
[03:20] <lonetree> hi guys
[03:20] <Hendric> i want it to automatically mount... once the server was up...
[03:20] <dooglus> ccooke: where?
[03:20] <lonetree> anyone has experience in setting pptp server on ubuntu?
[03:21] <ccooke> dooglus: do you know how apt works?
[03:21] <emX> Hendric: i see. i'm not sure if that's possible using the default setup, although it would be relatively easy to script that behavior
[03:21] <emskiedoo> hello ubuntu friends.. hope u guys can help me today
[03:21] <Hendric> just like plugging in a USB drive that mounst automatically
[03:21] <topyli> the colony 4 install cd is supposed to work, right?
[03:21] <lonetree> pptpconfig and pptp vpn server on ubuntu , anyone?
[03:21] <bigfoot1> Skid, you back yet from your lunch?
[03:21] <ccooke> dooglus: the apt repository is (usually) a web server
[03:21] <ccooke> dooglus: with a special construction.
[03:21] <emX> Hendric: the problem is that NFS servers don't announce their presence to the clients like USB devices do
[03:21] <dooglus> ccooke: vaguely.  I've seen the Contents files referencing .../pool/... files
[03:21] <ccooke> dooglus: for instance, try apt-cache show bash
[03:21] <bigfoot1> skid, if you are still away from the computer, let me know.
[03:22] <bigfoot1> joke.
[03:22] <ccooke> dooglus: and look at the Filename: field
[03:22] <boxerboy29> ok clean isnt working how do you unistall something from terminal?
[03:22] <aftertaf> lol bigfoot1
[03:22] <aftertaf> apt-get remove
[03:22] <boxerboy29> ty
[03:22] <aftertaf> bigfoot1:  ^^^^
[03:22] <lonetree> pptpconfig and pptp vpn server on ubuntu , anyone?
[03:22] <aftertaf> :)
[03:22] <dooglus> ccooke: right.  it's a specific file in /pool/
[03:22] <lonetree> :-(
[03:22] <ccooke> dooglus: then, go to any of the main ubuntu mirrors and paste that onto the end of the repository name
[03:22] <Hendric> emX, but i can make it to try remounting till its mounted???
[03:22] <bigfoot1> umberleigh, so anyone: how can i re-install any/all of the synce packages?
[03:22] <lonetree> no one answer me
[03:22] <Hendric> emX, but can i make it to try remounting till its mounted???
[03:22] <ccooke> dooglus: yes. Now, if you go to the *directory* it's in, you'll see several other versions of bash
[03:22] <emX> Hendric: could, but that'd need to be scripted, I think (I'm no NFS admin) ; )
[03:22] <bigfoot1> correction: um...
[03:22] <mirak> how to change the hostname ?
[03:23] <ccooke> dooglus: gimme a sec, I'll give you a link
[03:23] <lonetree> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[03:23] <dooglus> ccooke: I got one: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bash/
[03:23] <mirak> when I list samba share my computers have the same hostname
[03:23] <emX> Hendric: it might be better to instead have the clients check if they can, eg, ping the NFS server. if so, they should then try to mount it
[03:23] <emskiedoo> hi, i'll be reformatting my hard drive. i have a 60Gb Hd, would like to install windows and ubunto on same HD. my question is: can i partition the drive during windows intall with 45Gb 1st partition and 15Gb for ubuntu
[03:23] <Hendric> emX, well thanks.. eheheh
[03:23] <ccooke> dooglus: That's it
[03:23] <dooglus> ccooke: but all I see there are the latest versions of bash (the current breezy, hoary and warty versions)
[03:23] <Hendric> <-- scripting super duper noob
[03:23] <emX> Hendric: np. i'd give google a try on this one; I'm sure someone's done it before
[03:23] <bipolar> whats the release after breezy going to be called? Has it been named yet?
[03:23] <emX> Hendric: 'man bash' 'man sh'
[03:24] <Nvidiot> emskiedoo: yes, just create a partition for windows, leave the rest empty. Then install ubuntu into the remaining space
[03:24] <ccooke> dooglus: are you sure?
[03:24] <dooglus> ccooke: I'm just checking...
[03:24] <emX> bipolar: dapper drake, i believe
[03:24] <lonetree> anyone there?
[03:24] <bipolar> emX, cool
[03:24] <bigfoot1> basic question: how do i remove all packages that have to do with something called synce?
[03:24] <lonetree> please help me..................................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:24] <bigfoot1> What command do i use?
[03:24] <lonetree> SOS
[03:24] <emskiedoo> nvidiot, ok. thanks. see u guys again in an hour or so...
[03:24] <bigfoot1> lonetree, are you dying?
[03:24] <ccooke> dooglus: I count four versions at least.
[03:24] <lonetree> no
[03:24] <lonetree> not dying
[03:25] <lonetree> but i need help
[03:25] <dooglus> ccooke: lets look at xserver-xorg for breezy, 'cos that's changed 5 times recently - 28,29,30 Sep and 3,4 Oct
[03:25] <aftertaf> pptp server help for lonetree needed, or he may die ;)
[03:25] <lonetree> has anyone tried pptp vpn server on ubuntu?
[03:25] <lonetree> ya I'm dying
[03:25] <JustSleeping> lol
[03:25] <lonetree> becos no one help me
[03:25] <Ng> lonetree: if you don't get an answer here, you can always try the forums or mailing lists :)
[03:25] <lonetree> LOL
[03:26] <bigfoot1> lonetree, call 911
[03:26] <bipolar> lonetree, I went with OpenVPN for my VPN. pptp sucks
[03:26] <thompa> anybody got realplayer to work in breezy?
[03:26] <bigfoot1> lonetree, on second type, don't call 911.
[03:26] <Ng> thompa: yep
[03:26] <lonetree> but open vpn uses l2tp and ipsec right?
[03:26] <dooglus> ccooke: look at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/
[03:26] <ccooke> dooglus: hmm. It does seem that ubuntu clean the mirror fairly often
[03:26] <goh> Hi, may I know how to change setting in sypnatic such that it looks for my Hoary cd in my cdrw drv instead of my cdrom drive?
[03:26] <bipolar> lonetree, no. SSL
[03:26] <lonetree> too bad, i can't call 911 here
[03:26] <lonetree> not in US though
[03:27] <thompa> Ng: I tried a couple ways and finally got an entry in menu, but it does not open
[03:27] <dooglus> in the last week, versions 6.8.2-71 through 6.8.2-75 have been released.  but the /pool/ only has -75
[03:27] <Ng> thompa: what happens if you run "realplay" in a terminal?
[03:27] <bipolar> lonetree, it's easy to set up and all in userspace. very slick and secure.
[03:27] <nalioth> dooglus: you can search for the pkg name on google, as some mirrors dont update as often as others
[03:27] <dooglus> ccooke: I think they only ever have the current version.  I think they delete the previous version when they upload the new
[03:27] <lonetree> bipolar, is there any guide on openvpn?
[03:27] <bigfoot1> lonetree, do you chew gum?
[03:27] <lonetree> i tried before but failed
[03:27] <ccooke> dooglus: that's interesting.
[03:27] <ccooke> dooglus: Debian don't do that, I know.
[03:27] <bipolar> lonetree, yes. they have a website. google is your friend
[03:27] <dooglus> ccooke: it might also be false...
[03:27] <thompa> Ng: Let me look, im sure its a bad install. the Ubuntu installer is for version 8.
[03:27] <bigfoot1> lonetree, you failed at chewing gum?
[03:28] <ccooke> dooglus: dooglus only one way to find out :-)
[03:28] <lonetree> bigfoot1, no. i dun chew gum and its  illegal to chew gum here
[03:28] <bigfoot1> lonetree, i thought singapore opened up now.
[03:28] <thompa> Ng: no such file or directory. How did you install it?
[03:28] <JustSleeping> lol
[03:28] <lonetree> bigfoot1, you from singapore too?
[03:29] <Ng> thompa: I downloaded the Real Player 10 GOLD .bin (*not* a .rpm) from helixcommunity.org and installed it into /usr/local/RealPlayer/
[03:29] <bigfoot1> lonetree, no. i ask about gum because i wanted to know about the current state of gum-chewing in Singapore.
[03:29] <lonetree> bipolar, I installed openvpn but was unable to connect and config
[03:29] <dooglus> ccooke: looking at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-panel/, they seem to be keeping old versions.  i don't get it.
[03:30] <lonetree> igfoot1, where are you now?
[03:30] <lonetree> bigfoot1, where are you now?
[03:30] <thompa> Ng: I tried real.com and it did not work
[03:30] <bigfoot1> japan
[03:30] <bigfoot1> lonetree, japan
[03:30] <Hendric> how do i disable bluetooth daemon?? i don't need it anyway...
[03:30] <lonetree> bigfoot1, are you singaporean?
[03:30] <ccooke> dooglus: indeed.
[03:30] <bigfoot1> lonetree, no, should i be one?
[03:30] <lonetree> bipolar
[03:31] <lonetree> no
[03:31] <ccooke> dooglus: there may be a policy we don't know about
[03:31] <bipolar> lonetree, I don't know what to tell you. it worked fine here. there is a mailing list for it. I think there is an #openvpn channel too.
[03:31] <thompa> Ng: I'll try it again from Helix. Does rythembox play streaming?
[03:31] <lonetree> well, it is a disgrace, i felt, that even chewing gum is illegal
[03:31] <lonetree> @#$@#^$%^$%^$#
[03:31] <thompa> Ng: thanks!
[03:31] <bipolar> lonetree, my config was specificly complex too. I'm running it on my firewall, so I have iptables to get in the way.
[03:32] <Ng> thompa: rhythmbox can do streaming mp3/ogg, but not Real
[03:32] <lonetree> thanks bipolar, but it seems that it is not as easy
[03:32] <bipolar> Ng, that would be fixed if there was a gstreamer plugin for real, right?
[03:32] <bipolar> lonetree, it
[03:32] <bigfoot1> lonetree, are you ever craving for a chewing gum fix?
[03:32] <Ng> bipolar: yeah, but I don't expect such a thing, not after the work Real have done writing their own player for Linux ;)
[03:33] <lonetree> anyway, bipolar, my question to you is, after the client is connected to the vpn server, does your client get to see all the PC in the LAN?
[03:33] <bipolar> lonetree, it's the easist thing I found. ipsec is a bitch. pptp is not as secure.
[03:33] <Hendric> !restricted
[03:33] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:33] <lonetree> no bigfoot1
[03:33] <bipolar> lonetree, thats how I have it set up, yes.
[03:33] <lonetree> i chew it elsewhere
[03:33] <bigfoot1> lonetree, abroad?
[03:33] <lonetree> yup bigfoot1
[03:33] <bipolar> lonetree, I did a bridged setup rather then the routed. So clients can even see the samba servers from network neighborhood.
[03:34] <lonetree> wow! - bipolar
[03:34] <lonetree> please help me bipolar
[03:35] <lonetree> i noe pptp is not as secure, but i have no choice 'cos thats the only thing i noe so far
[03:35] <lonetree> although i got it work, but my client is not able to see the PCs in the LAN
[03:35] <bipolar> lonetree, how many users?
[03:35] <lonetree> as in?
[03:35] <bipolar> lonetree, how many VPN users
[03:36] <lonetree> currently, 3 - 4
[03:36] <bipolar> lonetree, how many do you expect to support in a year?
[03:36] <knubbe> ccooke: is there a apt-get.log or similar so i can check which packages that was updated and when they were updated?
[03:36] <lonetree> not known yet, cos the setup of the company is still small
[03:37] <thompa> Ng: I got the installer on my desktop, its a .bin
[03:37] <bipolar> lonetree, ok. The howto is at http://openvpn.net/howto.html you'll want to use static keys and a bridged network.
[03:37] <ccooke> knubbe-: /var/log/dpkg.log
[03:37] <bigfoot1> skid, you there?
[03:37] <lonetree> ok
[03:37] <bipolar> lonetree, let me know when you get everything installed.
[03:38] <Ng> thompa: ok, fire up a terminal, cd to your desktop and do "chmod +x realwhateverhtefileis.bin", then "./realwhateveretcetc.bin"
[03:38] <lonetree> thanks bipolar
[03:38] <bigfoot1> any synce users here? raise your hand if you are. don't be shuy.
[03:38] <Ng> thompa: probably best to do that last one with sudo too actually
[03:38] <knubbe> ccooke: great! thanks!
[03:38] <lonetree> how do I get in contact with you?
[03:38] <thompa> sorry. i found the instructions in the readme link
[03:38] <Hendric> how do i disable bluetooth daemon?? i don't need it anyway...
[03:38] <thompa> thanks
[03:38] <bipolar> lonetree, when you get there we'll go further. or you could just paypal me $100 and give me ssh access and I'll do it all for you :D
[03:38] <ccooke> knubbe: dpkg and apt are *very* well engineered.
[03:38] <Ng> thompa: aha, good good. say yes to the "install systemwide symlinks" btw :)
[03:38] <thompa> ok
[03:38] <lonetree> $100 US?
[03:39] <Ng> is soliciting for sysadmin consulting allowed in here? ;)
[03:39] <bigfoot1> if you use snyce raise your hand.
[03:39] <bipolar> lonetree, I meant it as a joke. :P
[03:39] <Hendric> $100 ??? more expensive the linspire lolx
[03:39] <Tarti> Hello guys. I have tried to install my winmodem for two days now. Cant get it to work. Can anyone tell me what modem I can buy that will work with ubuntu 5.04 hoary?
[03:39] <bigfoot1> what bipolar really meant was 500 dollars.
[03:39] <Hendric> lolx...
[03:39] <lonetree> really?? bipolar?
[03:39] <windex> lonetree, you need to set up a secure vpn?
[03:40] <lonetree> you really gonna charge me for that?
[03:40] <Hendric> how do i disable bluetooth daemon?? i don't need it anyway... please clap 3x if you know how
[03:40] <aftertaf> looool
[03:40] <Ng> Tarti: *any* modem that lives on the end of a serial port will work, or any internal one that implements a proper serial device and isn't a software winmodem ;)
[03:40] <lonetree> yes windex
[03:40] <aftertaf> Hendric:  remember for ntpdate?
[03:40] <Hendric> aftertaf, yeah
[03:40] <lonetree> you have any suggestion windex?
[03:40] <windex> lonetree, well, keep in mind, pptp can have a 48 bit cipher associated with it, i think. is that not enough?
[03:41] <Hendric> aftertaf, can you tell me the snytax?
[03:41] <Tarti> Ng: I wanted to buy a serial Acer Modem today but as I found out that was also a winmodem and needed an installation. I'm totally frustrated.
[03:41] <aftertaf> Hendric:  you can do the same here ;)   look in /etc/init.d/
[03:41] <mahangu> can i get opera via apt-get?
[03:41] <Hendric> aftertaf, oh god.. i forgot the command again.. dumber
[03:41] <aftertaf> sudo update-rc.d -f [name of thingy]  remove
[03:41] <Hendric> hehe tnx
[03:41] <windex> lonetree, sorry, 56 bit
[03:41] <lonetree> thats not wat i mean windex
[03:41] <Ng> Tarti: I would think that any decent sized PC type store ought to have "ordinary" modems, but it is quite a long time since I bought one ;)
[03:41] <aftertaf> Tarti:  install the restricted modules (dunno if on the cd though)
[03:42] <Ng> Tarti: perhaps asking for a modem that works with Macs?
[03:42] <lonetree> security is one issue that i am concern, but not to the extend yet
[03:42] <aftertaf> lol Ng
[03:42] <nalioth> Tarti: http://www.linmodems.org/
[03:42] <windex> lonetree, ok, so how is pptp unsuitable? the only reason pptp is good is because it dosen't require anything special for microsoft clients
[03:42] <Nvidiot> Tarti: check the specifications on the modem box, if it says it works in a 386/486, it's most likely a proper hardware modem
[03:42] <Tarti> yeah, I know the site
[03:42] <lonetree> wat i am facing now is that when i client into the vpn server with pptpconfig, i can only access the server resource, and i ca't see the rest of the pc inthe LAN - windex
[03:43] <Tarti> the system doesnt even recognize the modem
[03:43] <Tarti> but thats not the point
[03:43] <Ng> lonetree: you may need to do some kind of routing/masquerading to make that work
[03:43] <Hendric> Tarti, was it internal?
[03:43] <Tarti> yeah
[03:43] <bipolar> lonetree, are your vpn clients on a seperate subnet then the internal network?
[03:43] <Tarti> now on pci
[03:43] <thompa> Ng: seems to have worked. Im going to test it on BBC.
[03:43] <Hendric> Tarti, i got one too.. can't make it work on ubuntu
[03:43] <Tarti> yeah
[03:43] <Tarti> I can compile the driver and stuff
[03:43] <windex> lonetree, do you have forwarding between interfaces enabled?
[03:43] <Hendric> but it worked fine out of the box with linspire.. lolx
[03:43] <Tarti> but cant get it to work
[03:44] <Tarti> so I want to buy a new one
[03:44] <umberleigh> mahangu: by the looks of things no, i've just done a quick search and can't find it
[03:44] <thompa> Ng: I ran the installer from the menu. it seems earlier i probably installed without sudo. If you do that you do not get the symbolic link message
[03:44] <Tarti> a real hardware modem. But it seems like there is no real modem available atm :(
[03:44] <windex> lonetree, i mean, basically, you need to have routes established unless you are doing an ARP proxy to put VPN clients on the same subnet.
[03:44] <aftertaf> Tarti:  external
[03:44] <lonetree> err, dunno if I'm right, the client local ip is 192.168.123.x and the server side is 10.0.x.x - windex
[03:44] <Hendric> Tartaros, bye an external one
[03:44] <Hendric> * Tarti
[03:44] <lonetree> bipolar
[03:44] <aftertaf> Hendric:  damn tab, got me too
[03:44] <lonetree> did you get my PM?
[03:45] <bipolar> lonetree, no
[03:45] <Hendric> aftertaf, lolx
[03:45] <Tarti> aftertaf, Hendric: yeah, I tried today, but still on serial port it was a winmodem :(
[03:45] <windex> lonetree, is your VPN box your gateway for 192.168.123.x and 10.0.x.x ?
[03:45] <lonetree> errr
[03:45] <aftertaf> argh Tarti
[03:45] <lonetree> wait guys
[03:45] <lonetree> how do i register for a nick?
[03:46] <windex> lonetree, /msg nickserv help register
[03:46] <nalioth> lonetree: /msg nicserv help register
[03:46] <Tarti> so I am confused how to actually buy a modem that works...
[03:46] <bipolar> lonetree, you'll need to setup a route between those two subnets, and if you want smb access you'll either need to set samba to broadcast on the vpn or configure wins or something on the clients.
[03:46] <Hendric> damn java from restricted... i apt-get it.. and now it closes firefox when i view a java enabled site
[03:46] <bipolar> lonetree, thats why I used bridging. it just works. ;)
[03:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Hendric about javadeb
[03:47] <lonetree> hmmm
[03:47] <windex> bipolar, he also needs to turn on forwarding(?) in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/.. can't forward between interfaces without it
[03:47] <lonetree> any guides that i can get to read up on?
[03:47] <Spud> salve
[03:47] <Spud> hello
[03:47] <Tarti> hi
[03:47] <Spud> hi Tarti
[03:47] <Tarti> :D
[03:47] <goh> Hello
[03:47] <Spud> does someone speak italian?
[03:47] <bipolar> windex, yeah. but if it's on the firewall it will already have that. lonetree, is this on your firewall or an internal box?
[03:48] <lonetree> no firewall on the box
[03:48] <goh> Can any1 help me wif a sypnatic prob?
[03:48] <nalioth> Spud: in #ubuntu-it
[03:48] <Tarti> so, does anyone know of a modem on serial port which is a true hardware modem and available?
[03:48] <Spud> where's an ubuntu room for italian?
[03:48] <Spud> a ok
[03:48] <windex> !it
[03:48] <ubotu> windex: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:48] <Spud> thank you!!!
[03:48] <Spud> :D
[03:48] <nalioth> Spud: no problema
[03:48] <goo> Are there any clients for connecting to iTunes shares in ubuntu ?
[03:49] <nalioth> windex: /msg ubotu ubotu and pick the bots brains
[03:49] <Hendric> !restricted
[03:49] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:49] <Hendric> gotta apt-get clean
[03:49] <windex> nalioth, o_O
[03:49] <lon3tree> windex, bipolar
[03:49] <lon3tree> i just change my nick to lon3tree
[03:49] <EtnaRosso> hi all
[03:50] <karuptdata> hello
[03:50] <thompa> Ng: helisx wont play the integrated bbc real content.
[03:50] <EtnaRosso> i need help installing jdk
[03:50] <goh> How do I set synpnatic to read the hoary cd from my cdrw drv instead of my cdrom drv?
[03:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell EtnaRosso about javadeb
[03:50] <thompa> says i need real player. i thought they were same thing
[03:50] <goh> My cdrom died on me and it was the secondary master
[03:50] <Ng> thompa: they are the same thing
[03:50] <EtnaRosso> javadeb? there is some url?
[03:50] <thompa> im going to install both
[03:50] <Ng> thompa: wait wait wait :)
[03:51] <thompa> ok ok
[03:51] <goh> so I'm having trouble updating via my hoary cd
[03:51] <thompa> maybe plugin
[03:51] <Ng> thompa: delete .realplayerrc from your home directory and run "realplay" in a terminal. it should pop up and ask you to agree to a few things, including installing the browser plugin
[03:51] <thompa> ok
[03:52] <EtnaRosso> nalioth i had this string on my sources list, right?
[03:52] <Nameless12> can someone tell me the release date of 5.10, im lookin foward to it and would like to know in advance.
[03:52] <Ng> thomba: after that the BBC plugin-needing things should work - they do here at least
[03:52] <misterdiff> hi all
[03:52] <nalioth> EtnaRosso: sun java is no longer available in the repos for legal reasons
[03:52] <karuptdata> i believe its 10-13 release date
[03:52] <fredforfaen> misterdiff hi
[03:52] <Tarti> does someone know such a serial modem that I can buy?
[03:52] <nalioth> EtnaRosso: visit the URL in your browser and get the java you want
[03:53] <Nameless12> karuptdata, hope it comes out on my bday, thats the 11th
[03:53] <EtnaRosso> ok but i have downloaded from sun site
[03:53] <karuptdata> lol nameless that would be a gr8 bday present
[03:53] <viyyer> hi .. I am trying to configure hp1005 printer
[03:53] <viyyer> anyone's has success...
[03:53] <thompa> Ng: i dont have a .realpayerrc
[03:53] <viyyer> do I need to have the firmware ??
[03:53] <Nameless12> will 5.10 have better ati support?? will it be shipping with PRESETUP drivers that are up to date?? do any of you know
[03:53] <misterdiff> i need some help repartitioning my drive. i just bought this pc last night and its got a sata drive in it. but when i try the resize partition function on ubuntu
[03:53] <Hendric> Tarti, buy old school serial modems...
[03:53] <Ng> thompa: realpayer or realplayer? :)
[03:54] <nalioth> Nameless12: breezy will have better everything
[03:54] <thompa> in my home directory i typed rm .realplayerrc
[03:54] <Tarti> Hendric: yeah, could you tell me just a name or something, because I dont know how to investigate befor if its a hardware modem or not
[03:54] <Nameless12> nalioth, yeah, im just hoping that ati works easier. i want to get dual monitors i finaly learnt how xorg.conf works but it wasnt working for some reason. hopefully with 5.10 ill get dual monitors :D
[03:54] <karuptdata> im running breezy now and i am highly impressed
[03:55] <Nameless12> yeah i, cant wait till its out! (im gona be forcing ppl to test this)
[03:55] <Hendric> Tarti, google is better
[03:55] <thompa> Ng: typing realplay gives me../usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay: No such file or directory
[03:56] <thierry_> I'm on breezy, and I have too many kernels in my gdm boot page, how do I get delete the old one to make space for the new ones? I've already deleted the packages but they stay there
[03:56] <thompa> Ng: thats what ubuntu installed
[03:56] <Ng> thompa: ah yes, you probably want to remove that
[03:56] <Ng> sorry, I didn't think of that
[03:56] <thompa> Ng: thanks for the help. Should i just remove the directory?
[03:57] <Tarti> Hendric, I google a lot but maybe kind of ineffective..
[03:57] <Ng> thompa: no, you should remove the realplayer package - it will clear out those RealPlayer8 things for you
[03:57] <Hendric> i have a d-link external modem and worked fine even with debian biz
[03:57] <thompa> Ng: so from synaptic i suppose
[03:57] <Ng> thompa: correct :)
[03:58] <sr99> Hi @all
[03:58] <Tarti> Hendric: ok, thank you, I will look for that one :)
[03:59] <thompa> Ng: evil bastards gone, thanks
[03:59] <Hendric> for the 1st time here. someone thanked me for something.. lolx
[03:59] <sr99> my ubuntu starts with an error. the theme "Human" cannot be loaded
[03:59] <Ng> thompa: you may need to run "hash -r" in your terminal to get it to update where programs are so it finds the newer realplay (you only need to do this once, or close/reopen the terminal)
[03:59] <equador> hello everybody ;)
[03:59] <equador> how do you do ?
[03:59] <thierry_> sr99 : you could try to reinstall the package ubuntu-art
[04:00] <thompa> ok
[04:00] <equador> im from lithuania, the weather is the best from best ;)
[04:00] <equador> very sunny ?
[04:00] <equador> ;)
[04:00] <thompa> Ng: ok . now if i type realplay i get not found.
[04:00] <thompa> probably should reinstall?
[04:00] <sr99> gnome does not start it only reacts on a restart command. I'll try from console. where can I download the deb package for ubuntu-art?
[04:01] <cantona> which package generate /etc/ld.so.conf?
[04:01] <posty> sleep.
[04:01] <Ng> thompa: you could try running /usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay - if that's where you installed it
[04:01] <misterdiff> i need some help repartitioning my drive. i just bought this pc last night and its got a sata drive in it. but when i try the resize partition function on ubuntu
[04:01] <avalost> sr99, apt-get install ubuntu-art
[04:01] <equador> my gnome-desktop doont work, because write this error: FUCK OFF
[04:01] <thompa> ok
[04:01] <equador> good joke ;)
[04:02] <sr99> thx. I'll givbe it a try
[04:02] <thompa> Ng: its hxplay
[04:02] <sr99> give
[04:02] <nalioth> equador: not a nice joke for this channel
[04:03] <equador> okey, im very sad for this job ;)
[04:03] <EasterSunshine> hey what is the button to paste from x clipboard? it used to be to click the middle button, but my mouse doesn't have a middle button =(
[04:03] <Ng> thompa: ah, that sounds like you have helix player, go back to helixcommunity.org and click on the "free Realplayer" link
[04:03] <Ghoat> misterdiff:what happens when you try to resize it?
[04:03] <Ng> there should be a wiki entry about this really
[04:04] <sr99> btw: is the command to config the networkcard the same as in knoppix?
[04:04] <Nvidiot> EasterSunshine: use both buttons at the same time
[04:04] <misterdiff> Ghoat: the program freezes and i have to reboot
[04:04] <thompa> Ng: i thought i wanted helix?
[04:04] <EasterSunshine> Nvidiot: thanks i will try
[04:04] <misterdiff> Ghoat: i did md5sum on the cd that i downloaded and everything checked out good
[04:04] <equador> jus esat visi gaidziai ir maminiai ! Supratot !
[04:04] <thompa> Ng: isnt helix and realplayer same
[04:05] <Ng> thompa: it's all a bit confusing - helix is the open source player, but it doesn't actually play Real files, you have to download Real Player for that, but Helix is also the name of the community Real have setup for their Helix player and general open sourceness
[04:05] <Jedrick> how to mount to windows?
[04:05] <thompa> Ng: that makes sense.
[04:05] <sr99> bye @ all
[04:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Jedrick about windowsdrives
[04:06] <thompa> Ng: should i just download real.com player then
[04:06] <boodle> anyone else finding gdm/Xorg server not restarting right after latest breezy update?
[04:06] <nalioth> thompa: the helix player will be more suitable
[04:06] <Ghoat> misterdiff:have had several challenges with SATA drive in Windows, was driver related there...
[04:06] <Ng> thompa: http://www.real.com/freeplayer/?rppr=hc.org
[04:06] <Ng> :)
[04:06] <thompa> Ng: thanks again
[04:06] <Ng> thompa: I didn't explain myself clearly earlier, I intended you to get that link from the helix site :)
[04:07] <gccuser> server irc.oftc.net
[04:07] <misterdiff> Ghoat: the problem isn't in windows though, its in ubuntu's resize function
[04:07] <Jedrick> nalioth: i cant download that file yet. i dont have an internet connection on my linux, i need to mount to windows to get that file
[04:07] <Jedrick> how?
[04:07] <thompa> Ng: i dont understand why the linux realplayer
[04:07] <misterdiff> Ghoat: is there another free app i can use to resize this thing?
[04:07] <thompa> on real.com
[04:07] <danielbo> I have a problem with slow displays after upgrading two computers to breezy -- on ati and one sis. Both worked fine in Hoary. Are others seeing a similar slowdown?
[04:07] <thompa> why is helix more suitable
[04:07] <Hendric> any work around to openoffice loading time for around 2 minutes??
[04:07] <rawiramdhan> I mounted a windows dir in my home, but now I cant see my home map/ how do I umount thos?
[04:07] <rawiramdhan> I mounted a windows dir in my home, but now I cant see my home map/ how do I umount this
[04:08] <Hendric> 2 minutes is too much for a word processor
[04:08] <Ghoat> misterdiff:how about parted?
[04:08] <nalioth> helix is aimed toward open source usage
[04:08] <thompa> but helis cant play real player files
[04:08] <thompa> helix
[04:08] <rawiramdhan> I mounted a windows dir in my home, but now I cant see my home map/ how do I umount this
[04:09] <misterdiff> Ghoat: can that run in windows?
[04:09] <thompa> at least not bbc
[04:09] <misterdiff> Ghoat: or can i resize directly from a live cd?
[04:10] <stefan_> someone who can help me with a problem?
[04:10] <Hendric> i better start ghosting to my other 10 pcs...
[04:10] <Ghoat> they might have a windows version for it, I use Acronis partition expert in windows
[04:10] <Ghoat> m isterdiff:they might have a windows version for it, I use Acronis partition expert in windows
[04:10] <EasterSunshine> how do i access raid drives? like for example, the ide disks are /dev/hda-hdd, what is an example of a devicename i would mount for raid level 1?
[04:10] <Ghoat> misterdiff:they might have a windows version for it, I use Acronis partition expert in windows
[04:10] <din> EasterSunshine: /dev/sda,sdb,sdc, etc...
[04:11] <daved> can someone give me the contents of the default apt sources.list ?
[04:11] <daved> i'm doing a debootstrap install inside xen on a fedora host, so i dont have it :)
[04:11] <stefan_> I'm a beginner in Ubunto and Linux and when I'm trying to surf on the internet there's a problem
[04:11] <thompa> nalioth: just to confirm. I simply need to go to real.com and install realplayer for linux in order to hear bbc streaming.
[04:11] <florian> which problem?
[04:12] <nalioth> thompa: have you been to the wiki and followed the howto?
[04:12] <daved> someone please just paste their sources.list to me in /msg
[04:12] <daved> very easy to do
[04:12] <thompa> yes
[04:12] <stefan_> florian: can't connect some domains but when I type the ip-number it works
[04:12] <thompa> i ended up with lots of problems
[04:12] <din> dns
[04:12] <Shin_Gouki> yes dns issue
[04:12] <stefan_> perhaps something with the  dns
[04:12] <thompa> the installer is for version 8
[04:12] <stefan_> what can I do
[04:13] <stefan_> ?
[04:13] <danielbo> stefan_: check your /etc/resolv.conf
[04:13] <Shin_Gouki> try other dns servdr?
[04:13] <din> make sure your dns servers are correct
[04:13] <daved> jesus
[04:13] <thompa> ill look again
[04:13] <daved> can someone please just send me their sources.list
[04:13] <daved> will take you 2 secs
[04:13] <stefan_> that dosn't say me anything
[04:13] <Hendric> dpking java.. hope this one works
[04:13] <florian> easier with the gnome tool for network setup
[04:13] <danielbo> daved: hoary or breezy?
[04:13] <daved> breezy
[04:13] <daved> or tell me where i can find the default one
[04:13] <igama> PPL does anyone know about apache2 virtualhost in localnetwork??
[04:14] <igama> pls i need some help
[04:14] <Jedrick> how to mount to windows using the konsole
[04:14] <danielbo> deb-src http://kr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[04:14] <Hendric> nalioth, what's that java site again?? i downloaded the wrong file..
[04:14] <stefan_> danielbo: ok. found it. what am I looking for?
[04:14] <Ghoat> misterdiff:pretty sure you can with a live one...http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html#downloading
[04:15] <danielbo> stefan_, try to ping them
[04:15] <stefan_> I've tried it
[04:15] <danielbo> did it work?
[04:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell daved about sources
[04:15] <thompa> nalioth: wiki has simply: sudo apt-get install realplayer.
[04:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Hendric about javadeb
[04:16] <danielbo> nalioth, I gave them to daved
[04:16] <stefan_> danielbo: I think so
[04:16] <nalioth> thompa: the wiki says nothing about helix?
[04:16] <dikrib> Someone please help me installing ubuntu. I have tryed to install it om partition #2 (of 3, Windows 2000 is on #1) i think. I have formatted #2 to Ext3 with the setup, but later in the install process it says: Not installing to unclean target. So i am not shure if it is really trying to install into #2. What to do?
[04:16] <Hendric> i downloaded the update and now it errored out
[04:16] <danielbo> stefan_, when you pinged the name servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf, did they respond?
[04:16] <stefan_> danielbo: but when I do trace route I get nothing
[04:16] <thompa> nalioth: does helis play integrated bbc real content in browser?
[04:16] <thompa> helix
[04:16] <daved> nalioth: i wanted the default sources.list, not how to add more
[04:16] <rawiramdhan> I mounted a windows dir in my home, but now I cant see my home map/ how do I umount this ?
[04:16] <stefan_> danielbo: only have one name. should I add more
[04:17] <bigfoot1> hi all: how do i restart syslog? I tried "/etc/init.d/sysklogd restart" but i got "  *slogd: Already running. "
[04:17] <daved> danielbo: does that invlude the base system too, or is that just updates?
[04:17] <Hendric> nalioth, oh its the right thing i guess.. but i can't install it.. help?
[04:17] <daved> danielbo: do i want breezy and breezy-security as well?
[04:17] <danielbo> daved: wait
[04:18] <daved> danielbo: my sources.list is empty right now
[04:18] <danielbo> stefan_, you should se a line like this: nameserver 168.126.63.1
[04:18] <stefan_> danielbo: it didn't work
[04:18] <daved> danielbo: i'm doing a debootstrap install
[04:18] <danielbo> maybe two
[04:18] <yuyudhana> I am running hoary on thinkpad-R40e. kernel 2.6.10-5-386. When the machine boots, it hangs after showing "Starting Ubuntu". Having acpi=off boots perfectly.
[04:18] <moparfan90> hello
[04:18] <Shin_Gouki> how do i pipe shell output into a text file? what is the shell command?
[04:18] <daved> and whats the difference between restricted, universe, and multiverse ?
[04:18] <bigfoot1> a basic question from a newbie. how do i restart syslog?
[04:18] <stefan_> danielbo: when I ping the ip it works
[04:18] <moparfan90> does gentoo use a package manager?  or apt
[04:18] <bwlang> Shin_Gouki: >
[04:18] <Shin_Gouki> how do i pipe shell output into a text file? what is the shell command? i want to pipe the dmesg command
[04:18] <bwlang> Shin_Gouki: don't ask more than once
[04:19] <danielbo> stefan_, and you're only having problems with SOME sites?
[04:19] <stefan_> danielbo: this is what I see "search bredbandsbolaget.se
[04:19] <stefan_> nameserver 192.168.1.1"
[04:19] <Shin_Gouki> ok bwlang
[04:19] <danielbo> daved, did you get the second line?
[04:19] <Shin_Gouki> bwlang, dmesg > status.txt , will this work?
[04:19] <funkyHat> :D beagle started working with the most recent set of updates
[04:19] <nalioth> daved: legalities
[04:19] <danielbo> stefan_, the nameserver is on your local net?
[04:19] <Shin_Gouki> good morning nalioth!! :)
[04:19] <daved> danielbo: you said only one
[04:20] <danielbo> daved, I've sent two so far
[04:20] <stefan_> danielbo: only the one who travel far on the internet. for ex. I can't reach www.lhs.se but when I type the ip number it works
[04:20] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: howdy
[04:20] <sproingie> moparfan90: gentoo has its own package system.  it's more or less hidden behind portage.  you'd have to ask #gentoo about details of the binary package system
[04:20] <stefan_> danielbo: the name server is NOT on a local net
[04:21] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth i try to pipe the dmesg command into a text file will this work: dmesg > status.txt
[04:21] <florian> stefan: ask your provider for an ip to use as nameserver
[04:21] <thompa> Ng: ok realplayer works.
[04:21] <bigfoot1> hi nalioth .
[04:21] <stefan_> danielbo: so I'm pretty lost
[04:21] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: they just told you it would. try it
[04:21] <Ng> thompa: good :)
[04:21] <nalioth> bigfoot1: howdy
[04:21] <bigfoot1> nalioth, how do i restart syslog?
[04:21] <thompa> Ng: helix wont play bbc radio
[04:21] <danielbo> stefan_, you are on ?what? a DSL?
[04:21] <nalioth> bigfoot1: i have no clue
[04:21] <Ng> thompa: seriously, forget helix player, just use real player
[04:21] <stefan_> danielbo: yes
[04:22] <danielbo> show me ifconfig
[04:22] <thompa> Ng: i agree
[04:22] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth it did work ;) , some of the cool things about linux :)
[04:22] <stefan_> danielbo: "show me ifconfig" was that for me? how do I do that?
[04:22] <Hendric> and nalioth said, "javadeb"... and there was java on firefox. tnx
[04:22] <funkyHat> thompa, the real player for linux is good... it's not like the windows one
[04:22] <thompa> Ng: Ubuntu has a few issues here. I fthey fix the realplayer installer it would be good, but this is breezy so
[04:22] <danielbo> stefan_, type "ipconfig" at the terminal
[04:23] <Ng> thompa: I think it's Real.com's fault, not Ubuntu's
[04:23] <thompa> Ng: also on real.com the instructions are not updated
[04:24] <thompa> Ng: should be version -1
[04:24] <danielbo> stefan_, you there?
[04:24] <stefan_> danielbo: "ipconfig: command not found" I'm sorry. I'm hopeless. have only done this for about an hour
[04:24] <m0biu5> is there a clipboard daemon in breezy?
[04:24] <danielbo> f*ck
[04:24] <danielbo> ifconfig
[04:24] <Spud> excuse me.. What I have to do to erase a directory which is locked? (there's a lock)
[04:24] <thompa> Ng: what threw me off really was having to type sudo first. If I did not do this i would be lost
[04:24] <danielbo> stefan_, type "ifconfig" at the terminal
[04:25] <stefan_> danielbo: I thought I did
[04:25] <danielbo> stefan_, not "ipconfig"..."ifconfig"
[04:25] <stefan_> allright
[04:25] <sproingie> Spud: uh, a lock icon in the file manager?  that just means you can't write to it.  use the command line and sudo
[04:25] <thompa> Ng: there was no error message without sudo and thats painful
[04:25] <thompa> faster to install in slackware
[04:25] <stefan_> danielbo; eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:B0:D0:BB:2E:C5
[04:25] <stefan_>           inet addr:192.168.1.3  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[04:25] <stefan_>           inet6 addr: fe80::2b0:d0ff:febb:2ec5/64 Scope:Link
[04:25] <stefan_>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[04:25] <stefan_>           RX packets:15241 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[04:26] <stefan_>           TX packets:16251 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[04:26] <stefan_>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[04:26] <stefan_>           RX bytes:7933238 (7.5 MiB)  TX bytes:2716933 (2.5 MiB)
[04:26] <sproingie> nice flood
[04:26] <stefan_>           Interrupt:11 Base address:0xec80
[04:26] <stefan_> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[04:26] <m0biu5> whoa..
[04:26] <Hendric> waw nice...
[04:26] <stefan_>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[04:26] <stefan_>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[04:26] <Hendric> this channel should be #ubuntu-pastebin
[04:26] <Spud> yes.. sproingie ... what commands? could you tell me? :D
[04:27] <sproingie> Spud: since i don't know what directory you need to delete, can't be much help there
[04:27] <Spud> the directory is called "mIRC"
[04:27] <danielbo> Has anyone else noticed significant slowdowns on video playback after an upgrade to breezy?
[04:27] <Shin_Gouki> hi! what is the adress of ubuntu help forums(website) ?
[04:27] <Spud> in the desktop
[04:28] <holycow> heh
[04:28] <cantona> hello
[04:28] <sproingie> Spud: sudo is for doing a command as root, rm removes files, rmdir removes directories, and rm -r removes directories and everything under it
[04:28] <cantona> why there is no scim1.4.2 for ubuntu???
[04:29] <danielbo> cantona, is 1.0.2 not enough?
[04:29] <cantona> ydes
[04:29] <danielbo> cantona, curiously, what does 1.4 do that you need?
[04:30] <viyyer> Err http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/main Packages
[04:30] <viyyer>   Could not connect to ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net:80 (70.84.217.98). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[04:30] <viyyer> is there a replacement for te these backports ??
[04:30] <daved> does breezy-updates contain breezy-security ?
[04:31] <nalioth> viyyer: /msg ubotu backports
[04:31] <Spud> sproingie, :  No such file or directory
[04:31] <tombs> hi ppl
[04:31] <Spud> i don't understand
[04:31] <Spud> lol
[04:32] <Spud> sudo rm -r /home/........./mIRC
[04:32] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, what adress do the ubuntu help forums have? (website??)
[04:32] <daved> is there any metapackage that contains everything in a "workstation" type install ?
[04:32] <sproingie> Spud: i'm afraid i'm not really well-equipped for teaching use of the shell in general
[04:32] <daved> or are there "groups" of .deb's like fedora's yum "groups" ?
[04:32] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: www.ubuntuforums.com
[04:33] <sproingie> daved: debian calls those tasks.  infuriatingly enough, ubuntu does not use them.
[04:33] <Shin_Gouki> thx!
[04:33] <Spud> ok sproingie ... thanks a lot :D
[04:33] <nalioth> daved: use synaptic and there is a "sections" button on the bottom left, i believe
[04:33] <daved> nalioth: all i have right now is a base debootstrap install
[04:33] <daved> nalioth, no x or anything
[04:34] <daved> nalioth, i'm trying to find a way to install all of the basics.. sshd, x, gnome, etc etc etc
[04:34] <viyyer> thanks nalioth
[04:34] <bipolar> is anyone aware that libofx is broken in breezy? It makes it impossible to import ofx or quicken files in Gnucash
[04:34] <nalioth> daved: install "ubuntu-desktop"
[04:34] <Gwildor> sproingie, i havent used for a few releases, but there "used" to be a metapackage to install the standard desktop
[04:34] <Gwildor> nalioth has it
[04:34] <daved> also, does anyone know if there is an ubuntu package for a breezy kernel w/ xenU support?
[04:35] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, the adress...seems not to work..?
[04:35] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: i'm not sure then
[04:35] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, hm ok
[04:35] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: ubuntuforums.org
[04:35] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, if your using FF jsut type "ubuntu forums" in the url box
[04:35] <daved> nalioth: thanks for the ubuntu-desktop tip, btw.. exactly what i was looking for
[04:36] <Gwildor> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[04:36] <nalioth> daved: they are called "metapackages"
[04:36] <Dakrone> in the ubuntu install, does it set the root password automatically? Or did someone come by and set mine while I was gone yesterday?
[04:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dakrone about root
[04:36] <Gwildor> Dakrone, its your user pass
[04:37] <daved> can anyone point me in the right direction for the proper way to recompile a kernel in ubuntu?
[04:37] <oxez> Dakrone: you can use sudo passwd root
[04:37] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, Gwildor --> the guy from HE MAN??? LOL thx for reply
[04:37] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, EXACTLY
[04:37] <Dakrone> nalioth, Gwildor: Thank you both
[04:37] <Shin_Gouki> Gwildor, :)
[04:37] <Gwildor> np
[04:37] <`sg> anybody here managed to get a working swiss german (de_CH) keyboard in gnome in breezy? (works fine in ordinary non-x console)
[04:37] <Gwildor> AFK....smoke break
[04:38] <fredforfaen> `sg try dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[04:39] <fredforfaen> `sg or maybe not..i dunno
[04:39] <large_muscles> Is anyone having trouble accessing some of the repositories?
[04:39] <`sg> fredforfaen how does that fix gnome?
[04:39] <fredforfaen> `sg you got a point
[04:40] <fredforfaen> guess gnome is directed by locales
[04:40] <oxez> large_muscles: I have main universe and multiverse, everything works correctly
[04:40] <fredforfaen> dpkg-reconfigure locales maybe?
[04:40] <bipolar> are packages in universe maintained by debian maintainer or is there a ubuntu person that ports them?
[04:40] <oxez> large_muscles: did you edit sources.list manually?
[04:40] <imc_> Hi, everyone. Trying to burn an iso of Breezy - um...How?
[04:40] <nalioth> bipolar: we maintain universe
[04:41] <imc_> I downloaded the breezy iso image, but I can't remember how to burn it to a bootable CD
[04:41] <nalioth> imc_: like you burn any other iso image
[04:41] <imc_> nalioth, thanks, except I cannot remember how to burn an iso image :)
[04:41] <sproingie> daved: not sure if anyone answered your question, but kernel-package is usually how i recompile kernels.  you configure it the normal way, then use kernel-package to build debs
[04:41] <nalioth> imc_: what OS are you using?
[04:41] <`sg> locales? doubt it, gnome whines about xdb when it starts, but I'll give it a try
[04:41] <imc_> ubuntu hoary
[04:41] <large_muscles> oxez: Negative, I copied the list from ubuntuguide.
[04:41] <juan_> hey
[04:41] <oxez> large_muscles: do you run Hoary?
[04:41] <fredforfaen> `sg as i said i dunno , its just suffestions
[04:41] <large_muscles> oxez: Yes.
[04:42] <fredforfaen> suggestions*
[04:42] <juan_> hey
[04:42] <fredforfaen> hey juan_
[04:42] <bipolar> nalioth, who can take care of https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/gnucash/+bug/1561 then?
[04:42] <juan_> how many of you have breezy version?
[04:42] <sproingie> daved: kernel-package is itself a package you get, and it gives you a script called make-kpkg
[04:42] <nalioth> bipolar: you can, if you want to
[04:42] <oxez> large_muscles: then it should work. Try gnome-app-install (Settings -> Repositories)
[04:43] <bipolar> nalioth, there is a new version of libofx upstream that might fix this problem. If I build a deb for this how hard would it be for it to get into breezy before release?
[04:43] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mounted partitions not show on the desktop in breezy? Any haelp is appreciated.
[04:43] <imc_> nalioth, I'm on hoary. . .
[04:43] <large_muscles> oxez: Alright, I'll give it a shot.
[04:43] <nalioth> bipolar: join #ubuntu-motu and ask
[04:43] <nalioth> imc_: why are you burning an ISO? just upgrade
[04:44] <Gwildor> back
[04:44] <_jason> nalioth: is it preferrable to install breezy from scratch or is there really no difference?
[04:44] <large_muscles> If you upgrade to Breezy, will it wipe /home?
[04:45] <nalioth> _jason: if you have hoary, just upgrade.
[04:45] <nalioth> large_muscles: no it will not, if you use apt-get to do it
[04:45] <Gwildor> large_muscles, if you "upgrade" no.......if you re-install, it will depend on how you partitioned
[04:45] <large_muscles> Beautiful.
[04:45] <_jason> nalioth:  can i upgrade now?  Is there any difference from the preview version now and what will be available on the 13th (that you know of)?
[04:45] <imc_> nalioth: Thank you but this is an install on a new machine
[04:45] <nalioth> folks! linux is designed for "install once, upgrade forever" you should never have to "install" again
[04:46] <imc_> nalioth! Unless you have a second machine!
[04:46] <Gwildor> _jason, you should be able to upgrade now, and then again on the 13th to get the final
[04:46] <nalioth> _jason: whatever you like, apt-get will keep you up to date
[04:46] <nalioth> imc_: install k3b
[04:46] <_jason> nalioth, Gwildor: is it relatively stable then?
[04:46] <imc_> Grazie, nalioth except I'm on gnome  will that present a problem (it used to the last time I tried)
[04:46] <nalioth> Gwildor: explain properly please, upgrades come 100/day now for breezy
[04:46] <large_muscles> oxez: My connection keeps timing out when trying to connect to the different repositories.
[04:47] <nalioth> imc_: it should not, but if it does, use gnomebaker or graveman
[04:47] <large_muscles> oxez: Even when I try trough application installer
[04:47] <Gwildor> _jason, i dont know, i havent used ubuntu since jsut after the first release.......but i am DL-ing the priview release now
[04:47] <imc_> Thanks much
[04:47] <oxez> large_muscles: then I don't know I'm not really an expert, I'm more used to Gentoo. Sorry
[04:47] <nalioth> Gwildor: why not just upgrade via apt-get?
[04:47] <large_muscles> oxez: Thanks anyways, I'm no expert either.
[04:47] <Gwildor> _jason, my DL has like 3 hours left......ask me again in 4
[04:47] <LoKoZ> hi who can reponse at my answer?
[04:47] <Gwildor> nalioth, im not using a debian distro atm
[04:48] <eugene> Hello everyone
[04:48] <Gwildor> nalioth, only debian distro i currently run are live CD's (dsl)
[04:49] <nalioth> Gwildor: ah
[04:49] <yancheng> from the synaptic package manager, how i can noe which repository is a package came from?
[04:49] <nalioth> Gwildor: dsl is a debian distro
[04:49] <LoKoZ> who can reponse at my answer?
[04:49] <Gwildor> nalioth, i know....i run it live, and back-up to my pendrive....its not installed
[04:49] <Gwildor> LoKoZ, try asking something
[04:49] <nalioth> LoKoZ: ask your question again so new people here can read it
[04:50] <yancheng> right click on the properties doesn't get much info
[04:50] <epic___> Anyone know how to get these pesky mount points off the desktop?
[04:50] <_jason> ok I;m gonna go ahead and upgrade then
[04:50] <LoKoZ> the best P2P for ubuntu who is?
[04:50] <eugene> quick ? for someone, how do you get support to play wmv content from the web.  Totem is saying that it doesn't have the codec
[04:50] <Gwildor> yancheng, i think it will say in the description........but i cant say for sure....its been a while since i used synaptic
[04:50] <LoKoZ> I know some but....
[04:51] <large_muscles> eugene: Do you mean get them to play embedded in a web browser?
[04:51] <Gwildor> LoKoZ, its really personal preference....find one that uses the same servers as the client you used in windows
[04:51] <eugene> exactly large_muscles
[04:51] <large_muscles> eugene: You might want to try the mplayer mozilla plugin.
[04:51] <large_muscles> eugene: Although I've tried it, and it doesn't work for anything for me.
[04:51] <fes_> I've got two printers I am not sure which is lp0 and lp1 ??
[04:52] <LoKoZ> mmh but I wan't a P2P fast and rapid....undestand?
[04:52] <eugene> ok where can I find that at?
[04:52] <stefan_> danielbo: you there?
[04:52] <large_muscles> LoKoZ: Did you try Limewire?
[04:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell stefan_ about pastebin
[04:52] <Gwildor> large_muscles, eugene , did you grab the codec pack? (even though i am not positive the codec pack contains the WMV codec)
[04:52] <large_muscles> eugene: Use Syanptic, search mplayer, it should be there.
[04:52] <fes_> how do I know which USB printer is lp0 and lp1 ??
[04:52] <LoKoZ> I don't check it online for debian
[04:52] <stefan_> nalioth ubuntu: yes please
[04:53] <BlankB> fes_ print something different to both of them.
[04:53] <eugene> Thank you large_muscles.  And Gwildor I didn't know about a codec pack
[04:53] <eugene> Gwildor where can I find that at?
[04:53] <nalioth> stefan_: look at your private messages
[04:53] <robbkidd> Anyone know if dpkg maintains a version history?  I need to look up what version of a package I had a few updates ago.
[04:53] <large_muscles> Gwildor: Yeah I grabbed it, it doesn't seem to work for anything though, not just .wmv.  It will load the file to about 25% and just stop after that.
[04:53] <mahangu> eugene, you need to enable multiverse in your sources.list for mplayer
[04:53] <stefan_> nalioth: how?
[04:53] <Gwildor> eugene, im not sure.....check the ubuntu handbook...or whatever they are calling it these days
[04:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell eugene about w32codecs
[04:53] <nalioth> stefan_: what irc client do you use?
[04:53] <Gwildor> TY nalioth
[04:54] <large_muscles> Anyone know what this is about?
[04:54] <large_muscles> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:54] <robbkidd> g/mplayer doesn't work for me when called by double-clicking items in Nautilus.  It does work when called from the command line.
[04:54] <stefan_> nalioth: X-chat but I think I got it
[04:54] <Gwildor> robbkidd, does it give any error messages?, or does another app lanuch instead?
[04:54] <LoKoZ> who can send me package of limewire for Ubuntu?
[04:55] <LoKoZ> Kibuntu...
[04:55] <nalioth> large_muscles: package is unavailable
[04:55] <nalioth> LoKoZ: use synaptic
[04:55] <LoKoZ> kubuntu
[04:55] <large_muscles> nalioth: I'm getting that for every package.
[04:55] <LoKoZ> don't stare here
[04:55] <nalioth> large_muscles: then the site may be down atm
[04:55] <Gwildor> large_muscles, try apt-get update......see if that gives any errors
[04:56] <large_muscles> Gwildor: I've tried that, and it's timing out at every repository.
[04:56] <nalioth> LoKoZ: use apt-get or kynaptic, if you are on kubuntu
[04:56] <Gwildor> large_muscles, not good
[04:56] <Gwildor> lol
[04:56] <large_muscles> Gwildor: I figured.
[04:56] <Gwildor> large_muscles, im niot in debian atm, i cant help
[04:56] <large_muscles> Gwildor: It was working last night, but not today.
[04:56] <dreamwave> how do i add a new panel in gnome?
[04:56] <robbkidd> gwildor: Sorry, I didn't give much detail.  It runs, plays video, but no audio.  Audio works when called from the command line.
[04:57] <large_muscles> dreamwav: Right click on the panel, then click "new panel"
[04:57] <dreamwave> large_muscles, ah.  thanks
[04:57] <large_muscles> dreamwave: I feel like a guru.
[04:57] <epic___> robbkidd,   disable gnome sounds
[04:57] <Belutz> anyone can help me with this --> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2797 ? i was trying to install eclipse
[04:58] <_jason> Gwildor:  why, they are awesome
[04:58] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[04:58] <robbkidd> epic:  A-ha.
[04:58] <ssam> i have read the upgrade notes and am familiar with running pre release linux distros, anyone know if its an ok day to upgrade? and borkages resently?
[04:58] <nalioth> Belutz: use apt to build the uninstallable packages
[04:58] <epic___> robbkidd,   working?
[04:59] <Belutz> nalioth, build?
[04:59] <nalioth> ssam: it should be fine, we are 8 days from final
[04:59] <LoKoZ> nalioth:what I do?
[04:59] <nalioth> Belutz: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[04:59] <ssam> nalioth, i though it should be pretty steady by now :-)
[04:59] <nalioth> LoKoZ: K menu > run application > type "kdesu kynaptic"
[04:59] <nalioth> ssam: it is
[05:00] <ssam> i'll give it a go then, thanks
[05:00] <robbkidd> epic: Yepper.  But what if I like all the *bonk* *bink-bonk* when clicking on things? :)
[05:00] <stefan_> nalioth: can I searh after people in all the channels?
[05:00] <epic___> robbkidd,   there is a write up on the wiki, I suggest reading it, under breezy, configuring sound properly
[05:00] <nalioth> stefan_: type /whois <persons nick>
[05:00] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[05:00] <Gwildor> stefan_, <whois {whomever}>
[05:00] <LoKoZ> i've synaptic but don't stare it limewire what I do?
[05:00] <Shin_Gouki> hi which browser WITH SVG suppport u would recommend for ubuntu?
[05:01] <epic___> works fine with for me
[05:01] <stefan_> someone who can help me with my network connection?
[05:01] <nalioth> LoKoZ: get it from here http://www.limewire.com/
[05:02] <epic___> Shin_Gouki, other browsers seem to work fine too
[05:02] <stefan_> having trouble connecting to certant domains
[05:02] <daved> what is the preferred method for recompiling a kernel in ubuntu?
[05:03] <chuck_gr> stefan like?
[05:03] <epic___> Shin_Gouki, http://www.svgx.org/browser/   for more info
[05:03] <LoKoZ> you are sure if it is a debian packege for limewire
[05:03] <stefan_> chuck_gr: can't connet for example hotmail.com but when I print the ip-number ut works fine
[05:03] <nalioth> LoKoZ: limewire is a java app. it runs on anything
[05:04] <nalioth> stefan_'s DNS is bodgered
[05:04] <epic___> stefan_,   you're having an issue with resolving
[05:04] <epic___> see if you can ping your nameserver(s)
[05:04] <Gwildor> LoKoZ, http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[05:04] <LoKoZ> but on the site hi request a operating sistem
[05:04] <stefan_> nalioth: how ca I fix it
[05:04] <LoKoZ> it
[05:04] <Fikrann> Hello
[05:04] <nalioth> stefan_: i'm not sure. i just know your DNS is bodgered. have you updated lately?
[05:05] <TiMiDo> Fikrann,  hello
[05:05] <stefan_> nalioth: sure. this morning.
[05:05] <Fikrann> Do any of you know about any audio players I could start on a headless machine and control over the network?
[05:05] <TiMiDo> Fikrann, mp3blaster
[05:05] <epic___> stefan_, st   can you open a terminal and cat /etc/resolv.conf  ?
[05:06] <nalioth> stefan_: i'm not sure about your problem
[05:07] <Fikrann> TiMiDo, thank you.
[05:07] <stefan_> epic___ please join #bigpaste. I got kicked out last time I pasted in here
[05:07] <TiMiDo> Fikrann, np
[05:07] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i have described my problem as good and short as i could here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=388627#post388627  do u have time to take a look?
[05:07] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[05:07] <TiMiDo> epic___, what do you meen?
[05:07] <TiMiDo> *mean
[05:08] <thompa> hi: anybody got bzflag installed?
[05:08] <TiMiDo> !info bzflag
[05:08] <ubotu> bzflag: (a 3D first person tank battle game), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 1.10.6.20040516ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 3466 kB, Installed size: 5352 kB
[05:08] <TiMiDo> thompa, sudo apt-get install bzflag
[05:08] <epic___> TiMiDo   my moounted volumes in /media  show up on my desktop
[05:08] <epic___> mounted
[05:08] <thompa> its the broken version
[05:08] <TiMiDo> oh ok,
[05:08] <TiMiDo> well then get the source and build it from there thompa
[05:08] <thompa> 2.04 is the fix
[05:08] <clyde> problems with partition
[05:09] <TiMiDo> clyde, such as?
[05:09] <thompa> i got the tar.bz2 on my desktop
[05:09] <TiMiDo> ok,
[05:09] <TiMiDo> then do bzip2 -d tar.bz2
[05:09] <thompa> it needs some dependencies
[05:09] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: open a terminal and type lspci
[05:09] <thompa> ok
[05:09] <ubuntu> hello?
[05:09] <clyde> well, I deleted XP & now I can't get the partition to reset
[05:09] <ubuntu> Who's in here?
[05:09] <TiMiDo> everyone ubuntu
[05:09] <TiMiDo> clyde, and why did you do such thing?
[05:09] <ubuntu> Hey, speaking of Partition... tell me what a Swap Partition is?
[05:09] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, pm me plz
[05:10] <Sionide> ubuntu, justfuckinggoogleit.com
[05:10] <clyde> because xp wouldn't behave itself
[05:10] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth i did it tells me about interfaces
[05:10] <epic___> ubuntu,   used for virtual memory
[05:10] <TiMiDo> ok
[05:10] <clyde> missing hal.dll
[05:10] <TiMiDo> so what's the issue clyde
[05:10] <imc_> nalioth thanks - seems to be working. . . .
[05:10] <TiMiDo> i still don't understand
[05:10] <ubuntu> Do I have to have a Swap Partition?
[05:10] <clyde> can I do it throught the install cd?
[05:10] <TiMiDo> do what clyde repair xp?
[05:11] <tritium> ubuntu: do you intend to hibernate your machine?
[05:11] <TiMiDo> ubuntu, yes to installed ubuntu yes you need to
[05:11] <clyde> no repartition
[05:11] <TiMiDo> ok then do it with the cd, windows xp or ubuntu cds,
[05:11] <anto9us> is the ssh server broken on breezy?
[05:11] <TiMiDo> and you will be done,
[05:11] <TiMiDo> anto9us, do apt-get install sshd
[05:11] <bwlang> anto9us: no
[05:11] <TiMiDo> !info sshd
[05:11] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: type "lsusb"
[05:11] <TiMiDo> bla
[05:11] <ubuntu> What is the best way to create a partition for Linux?  I have a crummy Restore disc without the Windows disc.
[05:11] <clyde> ok,
[05:11] <TiMiDo> !info ssh
[05:11] <ubotu> ssh: (Secure shell client and server (transitional package)), section net, is standard. Version: 1:3.9p1-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 29 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[05:12] <TiMiDo> there we go sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:12] <thompa> TiMiDo: BZFlag-2.0.4.20051005 with the following:
[05:12] <thompa>      no curses!
[05:12] <thompa>      no SDL!
[05:12] <thompa>      bzadmin
[05:12] <thompa>      no bzflag client binary!
[05:12] <Sionide> !info qtpartd
[05:12] <anto9us> TiMiDo: it's installed already, appears to be running but is refusing connections
[05:12] <TiMiDo> anto9us, are you behind a router?
[05:12] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, it is listed!!!
[05:12] <ubuntu> What is the best way to create a partition for Linux?  I have a crummy Restore disc without the Windows disc. [please] 
[05:12] <nalioth> thompa: dont paste in here
[05:12] <anto9us> TiMiDo: no, on same network
[05:12] <joee> hey where do I put this line: h2:23:respawn:/etc/init.d/init.cssd run >/dev/null 2>&1 </dev/null
[05:12] <tritium> hi nalioth
[05:12] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: great. there's your answer
[05:12] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[05:12] <nalioth> tritium: good day
[05:12] <clyde> I I am behind a router, could that be the problem?
[05:13] <thompa> what do i need from synaptic in order to compile programs in ubuntu?
[05:13] <TiMiDo> anto9us, then reconfigured it
[05:13] <nalioth> thompa: "build-essential"
[05:13] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i thank u so much!!
[05:13] <Sionide> thompa, build-essential
[05:13] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: np
[05:13] <thompa> thanks
[05:14] <LoKoZ> don't load the program...
[05:14] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: another is "lshw"
[05:14] <clyde> thanks
[05:14] <TiMiDo> anto9us, do this dpkg-reconfigure ssh
[05:16] <tritium> anto9us: the actual server is in the openssh-server package
[05:16] <thompa> do you know what is curses or sdl?
[05:16] <tritium> ssh is just a metapackage that depends on the openssh -client and -sever packages
[05:16] <anto9us> tritium: yes, I have both openssh-client and server installed
[05:16] <TiMiDo> thompa, curses are ncurses
[05:16] <TiMiDo> !info ncurse
[05:16] <TiMiDo> !info ncurses
[05:16] <nalioth> thompa: search using synaptic for those things
[05:16] <tritium> anto9us: okay.  trying to configure the package ssh won't do anything for you
[05:17] <thompa> ok thanks
[05:17] <anto9us> tritium: yes, I've discovered that
[05:17] <TiMiDo> thompa, sudo apt-get install libncurses-dev
[05:17] <anto9us> how do I check if the sshd daemon is started?
[05:17] <tritium> libncurses5-dev (don't forget the 5)
[05:18] <TiMiDo> anto9us, ps x
[05:18] <tritium> anto9us: pgrep sshd
[05:18] <dmlinux> Anyone here use a bluetooth mouse?
[05:18] <nalioth> anto9us: if you've installed it, it should be running
[05:18] <spiral> hmmm, do you know if I need a initrd to use usplash ?
[05:18] <anto9us> yes, it's running
[05:18] <epic___> yes
[05:18] <thompa> TiMiDo: thanks will do
[05:18] <tritium> anto9us: as it should be
[05:18] <TiMiDo> thompa, np
[05:18] <anto9us> still refusing connections though
[05:19] <spiral> epic___: was it for me ?
[05:19] <epic___> spiral, yes
[05:19] <epic___> ssorry
[05:19] <epic___> hehe
[05:19] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[05:19] <spiral> epic___: do you know what I need other than initrd ?
[05:19] <epic___> spiral, Have you read the wiki compile entry?
[05:20] <SOMNIVM> epic___, delete them :}
[05:20] <skyblownet> Hey, how can i run .bin files?
[05:20] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, chmod +x .bin and then ./bin
[05:20] <nalioth> skyblownet: ./file.bin
[05:20] <anto9us> why would sshd refuse a connection? tried from 2 different boxes one breezy, one mandrake
[05:20] <TiMiDo> don't forget the chmod +x first
[05:20] <SOMNIVM> skyblownet, firs make shure you have +x
[05:20] <skyblownet> i do that in root shell?
[05:20] <yancheng> may i noe the difference between gnome and gtk+??
[05:20] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, normal user
[05:20] <spiral> epic___: for the kernel ? I didn't find it
[05:20] <skyblownet> but in shell?
[05:21] <TiMiDo> yeah
[05:21] <TiMiDo> where else?
[05:21] <skyblownet> dunno
[05:21] <tritium> TiMiDo: be nice.  He could check permissions in nautilus
[05:21] <skyblownet> i'm still used to windows :s
[05:21] <SOMNIVM> you could change the permissions in nautilus
[05:21] <TiMiDo> tritium, ok
[05:21] <LoKoZ> I don't do the limewire installation
[05:21] <TiMiDo> !info limewire
[05:21] <Gwildor> nalioth, sorry to bug you, where do devices get mounted to by default in ubuntu?
[05:22] <TiMiDo> http://www.limewire.com LokeDK
[05:22] <LoKoZ> !info limewire
[05:22] <nalioth> yancheng: gtk is the engine that renders gnome's windows
[05:22] <TiMiDo> *LOKoZ
[05:22] <nalioth> Gwildor: /dev/ usually
[05:22] <anto9us> can others here succesfully ssh into breezy?
[05:22] <LoKoZ> yes...
[05:22] <Gwildor> nalioth, what i thought......TY
[05:22] <sportman> hey
[05:22] <nalioth> Gwildor: it depends a lot on different things
[05:22] <TiMiDo> sportman, hello
[05:22] <SOMNIVM> no, he asks about the mount points
[05:22] <SOMNIVM> ;)
[05:22] <sportman> how can i boot no gui
[05:22] <sportman> im using the live cd
[05:22] <yancheng> nalioth: can i say that, gnome is build on the top of gtk+ ??
[05:23] <Gwildor> nalioth, sudo mount -t /dev/sda ..........shin says /dev and /mnt are still empty
[05:23] <epic___> spiral,   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[05:23] <TiMiDo> sportman, you meen no graphical interface?
[05:23] <nalioth> Gwildor: you need more of a mount comand than that, i believe
[05:23] <sportman> yep
[05:23] <nalioth> yancheng: yes you can
[05:23] <TiMiDo> sportman, ok enter the system then do root and do killall gdm
[05:23] <Gwildor> nalioth, ubuntu is silly
[05:23] <DoubleA> Thank you all. And didn't even have to ask anything yet.
[05:23] <TiMiDo> and you're done sportman
[05:23] <spiral> epic___: yes, I got it, but it doesn't learn me anything about usplash
[05:23] <sportman> lol
[05:24] <sportman> i meant like is there something when i get to the boot screen
[05:24] <TiMiDo> spo0nman, f3
[05:24] <epic___> spiral,   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/usplash
[05:24] <TiMiDo> sportman, f3
[05:24] <sportman> ok
[05:24] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[05:24] <sportman> thanks
[05:24] <spiral> epic___: thanks
[05:24] <TiMiDo> sportman, np
[05:24] <TiMiDo> Aragorn_Guardian, hello
[05:24] <epic___> :)
[05:24] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need help with samba....i could not found /etc/init.d/samba
[05:24] <spiral> epic___: doesn't exist...
[05:24] <sportman> bbl
[05:24] <TiMiDo> Aragorn_Guardian, did you installed samba?
[05:24] <Aragorn_Guardian> TiMiDo:  hi!
[05:24] <Aragorn_Guardian> yes
[05:24] <TiMiDo> are you sure?
[05:25] <epic___> spiral,   I am looking at it right now
[05:25] <spiral> epic___: USplash ;-)
[05:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> samba, smbfs, smbclient
[05:25] <TiMiDo> is /etc/init.d/smbfs
[05:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> dpkg -l 8)
[05:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> hum...nice...let me see
[05:25] <epic___> oops s  Blushes hehe
[05:25] <epic___> didn't even lok at the page
[05:25] <epic___> spiral,    what exactly would you like to know about usplash?
[05:25] <TiMiDo> sorry is /etc/init.d/smbd
[05:26] <TiMiDo> A daemon that handles file and printer sharing and provides authentication and authorization for SMB clients.
[05:26] <spiral> epic___: what I need to have in my home-built kernel in order to have usplash in my breezy
[05:26] <epic___> ahh
[05:26] <Aragorn_Guardian> TiMiDo:  no...is not there
[05:26] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8(
[05:26] <epic___> can you wait 5 minutes for me? I am dying for a smoke  (literally  :P  )  unless someoen else helps in the mean time
[05:26] <Aragorn_Guardian> gonna see
[05:26] <TiMiDo> Aragorn_Guardian, go to cd /etc/init.d/ and see if there's something with samba
[05:26] <Aragorn_Guardian> none smb at all
[05:27] <TiMiDo> interesting did you enter the directory
[05:27] <Aragorn_Guardian> yes
[05:27] <_jason> are perl warnings normal in the breezy upgrade?
[05:27] <spiral> epic___: if you were speaking to me, yeah, I can wait 5 minutes if you can help me
[05:27] <TiMiDo> Aragorn_Guardian, do this then smbd  restart as root
[05:27] <tritium> Aragorn_Guardian: what does "apt-cache policy samba" tell you?
[05:27] <Aragorn_Guardian> gonna see...nice command...
[05:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> Installed: (none)
[05:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> ????
[05:28] <epic___> spiral,    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplash     there you go  (I knew I had seen it somewhere)
[05:28] <TiMiDo> Aragorn_Guardian, so you haven't installed it
[05:28] <tritium> Aragorn_Guardian: it's not installed
[05:28] <TiMiDo> !tell Aragorn_Guardian about samba
[05:28] <spiral> epic___: yeah, thanks
[05:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> TiMiDo:  logs dont lie... 8)
[05:28] <TiMiDo> they can sometimes
[05:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> gonna try again...
[05:28] <TiMiDo> and system don't lie either
[05:29] <epic___> spiral,    ou wiil need the appropriate drivers in your kernel
[05:29] <epic___> you
[05:29] <trikar21b> how can i install gimp perl on this, does my mobo and/or processor matter?
[05:29] <spiral> epic___: yeah, just trying to find a list of them
[05:29] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, sudo apt-get install gimp perl
[05:29] <TiMiDo> or apt-cache search perl
[05:29] <LoKoZ> who help me to install limewire to Kubuntu?
[05:29] <nalioth> trikar21b: your hardware matters not. use synaptic
[05:29] <TiMiDo> LoKoZ, Read the INSTALLME or the README
[05:29] <trikar21b> i looked in there, but they dont have gimp perl as an option
[05:29] <trikar21b> i did
[05:29] <nalioth> LoKoZ: you were sent a link
[05:30] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, did you do apt-cache search gimp ?
[05:30] <trikar21b> it says i have to run a perl file
[05:30] <trikar21b> no
[05:30] <trikar21b> what is that
[05:30] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, do this sudo apt-get install libgtk2-perl
[05:30] <TiMiDo> that's the packaged you're looking for
[05:30] <epic___> spiral,   if you are missing the support you need after compiling you can see what it is trying to load with dmesg   it should still boot though  (just no splash)
[05:30] <trikar21b> oh
[05:30] <LoKoZ> I can't
[05:30] <trikar21b> ok
[05:31] <daved> does ubuntu use chkconfig ?
[05:31] <spiral> epic___: yeah, thanks, I'll try to
[05:31] <epic___> ESC is always your friend when grub is loading too
[05:31] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, did it worked (:
[05:31] <trikar21b> no
[05:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice!!!
[05:31] <trikar21b> i have that installed
[05:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> seems works... 8)
[05:31] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, you have it?
[05:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks TiMiDo ... 8)
[05:32] <nalioth> LoKoZ: http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[05:32] <TiMiDo> Aragorn_Guardian, np sir any time
[05:32] <daved> does ubuntu use chkconfig ?
[05:32] <daved> how do you make things in /etc/init.d start on boot?
[05:32] <trikar21b> libgtk2-perl?
[05:32] <LoKoZ> it is for Gnome
[05:32] <TiMiDo> yeah trikar21b
[05:32] <LoKoZ> I've KDE
[05:32] <TiMiDo> daved, man update-rc.d
[05:32] <daved> how do you use apt to find out which package contains a given file?
[05:32] <nalioth> LoKoZ: it works the same for both
[05:32] <trikar21b> i have that installed
[05:32] <tritium> daved: sudo invoke-rc.d <service> start | stop | restart
[05:32] <_jason> help please: during upgrade "gnome volumje manager quit unexpectedly"... what should i do restart it or just close or ignor?
[05:33] <TiMiDo> restart GNOme _J
[05:33] <TiMiDo> restart GNOme _jason
[05:33] <daved> tritium: i appreciate the attempt, but you didn't read my question
[05:33] <LoKoZ> I do it but don't start the application
[05:33] <_jason> TiMiDo:  i'm in the middle of breezy upgrade
[05:33] <TiMiDo> then wait until it finishes and restart gnome
[05:33] <_jason> ok
[05:33] <trikar21b> any ideas
[05:33] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, did you restart gimp?
[05:33] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[05:34] <trikar21b> yeah
[05:34] <tritium> daved: dpkg -S <filename> for your second question.  update-rc.d would be the proper solutio for your first
[05:34] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, do apt-cache search gimp
[05:34] <trikar21b> whats apt-cache
[05:34] <TiMiDo> it's a search for packaged
[05:34] <Gul3> hello! is it possible to burn .cdi images in hoary?
[05:34] <TiMiDo> Gul3, yes
[05:34] <trikar21b> im sorta new to ubuntu, ive been using suse for so long
[05:34] <Gul3> how?
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> k3b
[05:35] <TiMiDo> k3b
[05:35] <trikar21b> how would i use that
[05:35] <N17R0> nerolinux
[05:35] <smi|e> !java
[05:35] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[05:35] <epic___> trikar21b,   it is a command/app
[05:35] <Gul3> k3b could not take it...?
[05:35] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, open up a terminal and do apt-cache search gimp or /exec apt-cache search gimp
[05:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell N17R0 about javadeb
[05:35] <Gul3> is ther some missing packages or something?
[05:35] <N17R0> ?
[05:35] <TiMiDo> Gul3, huh?
[05:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell smi|e about javadeb
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> could not take it ??
[05:36] <trikar21b> i just want to install a perl plugin, but i dont know if i have gimp perl installed,
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> what does that mean ??
[05:36] <Gul3> sorry. i tried k3b, but it would not take my cdi image.
[05:36] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, su this sudo apt-get install libgtk2-perl
[05:36] <N17R0> try NeroLINUX
[05:36] <TiMiDo> *do
[05:36] <trikar21b> i did that, it is installed
[05:36] <Gul3> N17RO: apt-get?
[05:36] <N17R0> nope
[05:36] <dreamwave> i'm installing ubuntu on someone's old compaq presario 1920 laptop.  in the install, after selecting the basic interface options (language/keyboard), and just after detecting all the hardware, the screen repeatedly blanks and I never get to the first step of the installation process.  do i need to set any specific boot option at the boot: prompt?
[05:36] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, how do you know it's installed?
[05:36] <N17R0> nero ftp
[05:36] <Gul3> ok, thanks. will do:)
[05:36] <N17R0> np
[05:36] <LoKoZ> I do
[05:36] <LoKoZ> Thanks
[05:36] <trikar21b> cause in the package mangaer, its says its installed
[05:37] <TiMiDo> dreamwave, try f3 before it boots,
[05:37] <TiMiDo> ok,
[05:37] <TiMiDo> then trikar21b do this apt-cache search perl
[05:37] <trikar21b> so like just type in  apt-cache perl?
[05:37] <smi|e> !sources
[05:37] <ubotu> hmm... sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[05:37] <TiMiDo> yeah
[05:37] <dreamwave> TiMiDo, can you suggest any options i should use from that screen?  i tried vga=771 but that had no effect.
[05:37] <smi|e> Yvonne hun you here ?
[05:37] <TiMiDo> dreamwave, hold up
[05:37] <dreamwave> k
[05:38] <LoKoZ> I do it but Limewire don't start why?
[05:38] <Hendric> am back..
[05:38] <trikar21b> im just going to get a book on debian 3 sarge and download that
[05:38] <nalioth> LoKoZ: we need error msgs or more info, and dont paste in here
[05:38] <trikar21b> thanks anyways
[05:38] <N17R0> whats the problem with backports? I get lots of errors when I update synaptic
[05:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell N17R0 about backports
[05:39] <N17R0> is it dead?
[05:39] <Hendric> i cloned my drive.. then i got GRUB ERROR 17 on the cloned drive... i can't grub-install (on rescue) it says no BIOS device.. I installed ubuntu using LVM partition. pls help
[05:39] <bonzai10> hello
[05:39] <TiMiDo> dreamwave, try booting with svga
[05:39] <LoKoZ> but
[05:39] <LoKoZ> Don't
[05:39] <LoKoZ> have a error message
[05:39] <nalioth> LoKoZ: install gtk-gnutella instead of limewire, it does the same thing
[05:39] <epic___> Dreamglider-work,    try noapic
[05:39] <N17R0> ahh ty nalioth
[05:39] <dreamwave> k
[05:39] <TiMiDo> it should worked,
[05:40] <LoKoZ> I've Gtk gnutella
[05:40] <Hendric> nalioth, how can i grub-install on an LVM system???
[05:40] <nalioth> LoKoZ: gtk-gnutell and limewire do the same thing
[05:40] <TiMiDo> yeah giftcurs sure it's nice
[05:40] <nalioth> Hendric: i have no idea.
[05:40] <LoKoZ> but both don't start
[05:40] <smi|e> how can i get more backports?
[05:40] <LoKoZ> it is the problem
[05:40] <TiMiDo> !tell smi|e about backports
[05:40] <nalioth> smi|e: you running breezy or hoary?
[05:41] <mahangu> my update is downloading a new linux image
[05:41] <mahangu> is this normal?
[05:41] <smi|e> hoary nalioth
[05:41] <nalioth> mahangu: quite normal
[05:41] <mahangu> i have a fairly old hoary cd i installed from
[05:41] <TiMiDo> mahangu, yeah
[05:41] <TiMiDo> it should be normal
[05:41] <nalioth> smi|e: read what ubotu sent you
[05:41] <smi|e> ?
[05:41] <nalioth> smi|e: ubotu sent you a private msg
[05:41] <TiMiDo> sure did
[05:41] <smi|e> no
[05:41] <smi|e> he didnt
[05:42] <TiMiDo> smi|e, scrow up
[05:42] <TiMiDo> you will see it,
[05:42] <smi|e> that was about java
[05:42] <TiMiDo> !tell smi|e about backports
[05:42] <nalioth> smi|e: read it again ;)
[05:42] <smi|e> !backportd
[05:42] <ubotu> smi|e: What?
[05:42] <smi|e> !backports
[05:42] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[05:42] <TiMiDo> there u go, sorry about that
[05:42] <TiMiDo> smi|e, you just can msg the bot, and you will be done
[05:43] <TiMiDo> so you don't flood the channel
[05:43] <bonzai10> question when i upgrade 5.04 to 5.10 then all packages are updated to Breezy version, even KDE and everything should work right?(talking about final Breezy ver )
[05:43] <nalioth> bonzai10: yes
[05:43] <TiMiDo> yeah it should bonzai10
[05:43] <smi|e> TiMido i didnt flood the channel,
[05:43] <TiMiDo> you dind't but the bot did
[05:43] <smi|e> no it didnt
[05:43] <TiMiDo> alright,
[05:43] <smi|e> it pasted one line
[05:43] <bonzai10> ok thanx :)
[05:43] <smi|e> now stop exhagurating
[05:44] <nalioth> smi|e: you can msg the bot to your hearts content and ask it anything it knows in the privacy of your own personal chat
[05:44] <LoKoZ> I don't receve error but after the load for some second the program doesn't start why?
[05:44] <elvstone> hi. what's the wiki dialect used by launchpad? i can't find any info on it on the site..
[05:44] <TiMiDo> LoKoZ, do this in the terminal limewire and look at the error
[05:45] <TiMiDo> elvstone, did you google it?
[05:46] <nalioth> elvstone: moin moin, i believe
[05:46] <TiMiDo> elvstone,  https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/
[05:46] <TiMiDo> is that what you're looking for?
[05:46] <meuserj|work> so I tried the .xsession hack that jdub posted today ( http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/blog/2005/10/05/ ) and it seems to crash my windows list applets.. any ideas?
[05:47] <TiMiDo> do you get any errors when the windows crash meuserj|work ?
[05:47] <elvstone> TiMiDo: i googled "launchpad wiki" and "launchpad wiki dialect".. couldn't find anything.
[05:47] <elvstone> nalioth: okay. thx.
[05:47] <TiMiDo> elvstone, is that the right link that i give ya?
[05:47] <dreamwave> TiMiDo, would i use => boot: linux vga=svga   ?
[05:47] <TiMiDo> smoetihng like that Dreamglider-work
[05:47] <TiMiDo> bla dreamwave
[05:48] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, gwilor may help me
[05:48] <meuserj|work> TiMiDo, just the dialog that asks if I want to delete the applet.... thought maybe metacity wasn't starting in time.. but that isn't the case.
[05:48] <TiMiDo> so what's going on,
[05:48] <elvstone> TiMiDo: it at least showed that that page is running moinmoin.. i guess that is what is used for my "Home Page" at launchpad.net too. i'll see if it works. thanks.
[05:48] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, but how can he connect to me? via xterm?
[05:48] <TiMiDo> meuserj|work, ?
[05:49] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, u have tutorials for xterm, or putty logging- net - working?
[05:49] <LoKoZ> don't start from console don't knows it name
[05:49] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, man chat
[05:49] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: what do you want to do?
[05:49] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i want him to connect to my PC via SSH
[05:49] <TiMiDo> ok
[05:49] <thompa> Hi anybody: i got bzflag installed from source. It runs only if i type sudo first. Does this matter? I want to maybe add it to menu
[05:49] <Shin_Gouki> how do i do this?
[05:50] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, he asked if my SSH server is on... is it? were do i look that?
[05:50] <TiMiDo> thompa, do whereis bzflag and create a launcher
[05:50] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, ssh localhost
[05:50] <TiMiDo> and see if it connects
[05:50] <thompa> ok
[05:50] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[05:50] <TiMiDo> np Shin_Gouki
[05:50] <LoKoZ> don't start from console don't knows it name
[05:50] <dreamwave> TiMiDo, yay!  i'm off and running.  thanks.
[05:50] <TiMiDo> dreamwave, np
[05:50] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: type in a terminal "ps aux|grep sshd"
[05:50] <TiMiDo> do what nalioth told ya LoKoZ
[05:51] <Shin_Gouki> TiMiDo,  ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[05:51] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, then ssh is not running
[05:51] <thompa> TiMiDo: it took like 20 minutes to compile
[05:51] <Arkainium> I'm uisng sound juicer to rip cds to ogg.  Is there a way to choose the quality?
[05:51] <TiMiDo> do /etc/init.d/sshd restart;
[05:51] <nalioth> TiMiDo: if he has sshd installed
[05:51] <TiMiDo> thompa, yeah it's a big program isn't it?
[05:51] <TiMiDo> nalioth, yeah
[05:51] <thompa> is that normal.
[05:51] <Hendric> anyone here knows how to repair grub on an LVM drive... ????
[05:51] <TiMiDo> thompa, imagine gnome or kde
[05:51] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, 1000      5326  0.0  0.5   3108   696 pts/1    S+   17:51   0:00 grep sshd
[05:51] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: install "openssh-server"
[05:51] <LoKoZ> I do
[05:51] <LoKoZ> it
[05:51] <TiMiDo> thompa, how big is the program?
[05:52] <thompa> its in /usr/local/bin/bzflag
[05:52] <LoKoZ> but don't start
[05:52] <TiMiDo> thompa, yeah create a launcher
[05:52] <vbgunz> hello everyone, I just installed bsdgames and a logic game in Ubuntu but have no idea where in the world they are in the system... I don't know how to start them and need some ideas
[05:52] <TiMiDo> to /usr/local/bin/bzflag
[05:52] <nalioth> thompa: did you use synaptic or apt-get to install bzflag?
[05:52] <thompa> well im new to gnome, but will try
[05:52] <thompa> source
[05:52] <TiMiDo> vbgunz, are you running kde gnome?
[05:52] <thompa> synaptic version is broken
[05:52] <nalioth> thompa: broken?
[05:52] <TiMiDo> thompa, right click and then create a launcher
[05:53] <lotscha> #gletscher
[05:53] <vbgunz> TiMiDo: i am running gnome at the moment *but* do have KDE (kubuntu) installed
[05:53] <anto9us> I think ssh is broken in breezy
[05:53] <thompa> some graphics bugs, shots go through other players
[05:53] <TiMiDo> ok vbgunz try looking at the Menu where it says games,
[05:53] <thompa> its well documented
[05:53] <TiMiDo> yeah it is thompa
[05:53] <tritium> no, anto9us
[05:53] <vbgunz> TiMiDo: ok
[05:53] <bina> xmms
[05:53] <thompa> they just came out with fixed version, should be in debian repos soon i hope
[05:53] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, done, do i need expicit to start it?
[05:54] <TiMiDo> damn mouse
[05:54] <anto9us> tritium: you can ssh into a breezy box?
[05:54] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: once you install openssh-server, it will start on it's own
[05:54] <vbgunz> TiMiDo: the only games in there are the ones that shipped... I don't see the bsd games or the logic game
[05:54] <tritium> anto9us: sure
[05:54] <TiMiDo> did u restart the gnome vbgunz ?
[05:55] <vbgunz> yes, i restarted Ubuntu twice as i needed to get into Windows to do some things
[05:55] <TiMiDo> interesting
[05:55] <thompa> TiMiDo: 138MB
[05:55] <thompa> its big
[05:55] <TiMiDo> vbgunz, go to debian and check there
[05:55] <TiMiDo> on the gnome menu
[05:55] <SOMNIVM> do you know where I could get small "Powered by Ubuntu" banners? I didn't find the ones uploaded in the wiki...
[05:55] <vbgunz> ok I don't have the debian menu folder available so if I edit them I see no items in the node either
[05:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> bzflag is nice... 8)
[05:55] <Hendric> anyone here knows how to repair grub on an LVM drive... ????
[05:56] <TiMiDo> vbgunz, interesting
[05:56] <thompa> get 2.04 its nicer
[05:56] <amimusa> hi people, i can't hear my CDAs in kubuntu, the rest of sound i can listen to, please any suggestion ?
[05:56] <Casanova> hello.. i am having a problem with the sound system... i have to do "sudo chmod 777 /dev/dsp" to enable sound on every boot.... is there some way i can automate this? also this is not a prob on any other distro
[05:56] <TiMiDo> amimusa, try opening with totem
[05:56] <epic___> BSDgames has a launcher by default?
[05:56] <vbgunz> yeah, Debian has no check mark next to it and nothing beneath it... This is the first time something like this (installation) doesn't show up but in Synaptic it shows as installed
[05:57] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[05:57] <TiMiDo> !tell Casanova about sound
[05:57] <SOMNIVM> amimusa, check if your CD drive is connected properly to the sound card :}
[05:57] <vbgunz> epic___: I believe bsdgames might not have a launcher by default but trying to launch bsdgames doesn't work either
[05:57] <Hendric> anyone here knows how to repair grub on an LVM drive... ???? pls pls pls
[05:57] <tritium> Casanova: is that to enable any sound at all, or sounds for things that don't use esd?
[05:57] <amimusa> i did ir SOMNIVM
[05:57] <_jason> epic___:  if you ever find out please make a wiki because I have been trying to figure that out for a while
[05:57] <tritium> Hendric: please quit repeating.
[05:57] <TiMiDo> Hendric, stop flooding
[05:58] <Casanova> tritium, if i run mplayer without that command it says it cant open device /dev/dsp
[05:58] <amimusa> TiMiDo, i have kde
[05:58] <amimusa> i don't think to install totem will solve the problem
[05:58] <tritium> Casanova: is that because esd is running?  Do system sounds work?
[05:58] <amimusa> i can hear sound from movies
[05:58] <amimusa> and from system
[05:58] <thompa> bzflag graphics are improved.
[05:58] <TiMiDo> Hendric, do you want to repair the lvm? or reinstalled it?
[05:58] <scanwinder> epic___: is there a program that automatically does it? perhaps theres some pointers in the hotplug scripts
[05:58] <epic___> _jason,    it only happens in breezy afaik
[05:59] <Casanova> tritium, no it works only as root
[05:59] <thompa> TiMIDo: thanks
[05:59] <epic___> scanwinder, I have no idea, hence me asking in here
[05:59] <woebegone> I am sorry i dont think i should asking this here is the way to channel on pthreads
[05:59] <tritium> Casanova: what does?
[05:59] <TiMiDo> thompa, np
[05:59] <scanwinder> epic___: did it in hoary for me aswell
[05:59] <thompa> 140MB
[05:59] <epic___> scanwinder, weird, my mate has horay and it does not do it
[05:59] <Casanova> tritium, all sounds work perfectly when i am logged as root... but not as ordinary user
[05:59] <TiMiDo> Hendric, http://linux.org.mt/article/partnames
[05:59] <bonzai10> who has friend who makes yakuake??
[05:59] <Determinist> what would be the fastest way to install nvidia drivers for a geforce 6600gt on breezy?
[06:00] <thompa> graphics are nice , gritty quake like with nvidia
[06:00] <skyblownet> !tell skyblownet mp3
[06:00] <scanwinder> epic___: actually, it might not, when i had hoary, that was kubuntu
[06:00] <skyblownet> how can i install REALplayer?
[06:00] <TiMiDo> !info realplayer
[06:00] <ubotu> realplayer: (Real Player (installer)), section multiverse/net, is optional. Version: 8.0.11 (hoary), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[06:00] <smi|e> !java
[06:00] <scanwinder> epic___: tho i did have normal hoary before that...cant remember....i guess it isnt important tho
[06:00] <ubotu> [java]  to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[06:00] <thompa> My ubuntu brezzy is all setup and working including wireless. be seeing you!
[06:00] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, sudo apt-get install realplayer
[06:01] <epic___> scanwinder,   it is to me  :P
[06:01] <Mars__^> HI Is there anybody here who is active on msn, and can give me id, cause i need to find out is there everything auright with my msn transporent to PSI.
[06:01] <Casanova> tritium, any idea?
[06:01] <TiMiDo> lol tritium (:
[06:01] <tritium> Casanova: not without more info
[06:01] <epic___> Determinist, synaptic
[06:01] <anto9us> my ssh problem was actually a dns problem, sorted now
[06:01] <tritium> s/things/thinks
[06:01] <thompa> TiMiDo: are you sure about that apt-get install realplayer
[06:01] <Casanova> tritium, wat kinda info?
[06:01] <tritium> anto9us: ;)
[06:01] <TiMiDo> thompa, /msg ubotu info realplayer
[06:02] <Determinist> epic___, what package?
[06:02] <thompa> ive done that
[06:02] <skyblownet> E: Package realplayer has no installation candidate
[06:02] <epic___> thompa,   that works, you also need to get the RP rpm from realplayer.com
[06:02] <scanwinder> epic___: where are the hotplug scripts anyway...im a noob.....i just know that they are somewhere
[06:02] <TiMiDo> realplayer - Real Player (installer)
[06:02] <TiMiDo> on breezy
[06:02] <thompa> and also you need to change the version numbers
[06:02] <Hendric> TiMiDo, nothing about LVM
[06:02] <anto9us> thanks for the advice guys
[06:02] <thompa> and a couple of other things
[06:02] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i create a user on shell (linux in GENERAL)
[06:02] <scanwinder> realplayer *shudder*
[06:02] <thompa> just download from real.com and install
[06:02] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, man adduser
[06:02] <thompa> its less steps
[06:02] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[06:02] <TiMiDo> np
[06:03] <tritium> thompa: but not under package management if you do that
[06:03] <skyblownet> but i've got a bin from there
[06:03] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, did you do chmod +x realplayer.bin ?
[06:03] <eniz> can't find linux drivers for my lan. and asrock did not have. help someone?
[06:03] <skyblownet> yeah, but i got an error running
[06:03] <thompa> tritium: do you mean under synaptic?
[06:03] <skyblownet> wait let me try it again
[06:03] <TiMiDo> what error?
[06:03] <tritium> thompa: more than just synaptic
[06:04] <skyblownet> bash: ELF
[06:04] <blekos> hello everybody
[06:04] <thompa> it says realplayer version 8.011
[06:04] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, remove it and reinstall it again
[06:04] <TiMiDo> blekos, hello
[06:04] <blekos> how is this program called that removes uneccessary files?
[06:04] <blekos> hi Timi
[06:05] <Pedricko> Hey Hey
[06:05] <epic___> scanwinder,      just 'man hotplug'   lots of info  :)
[06:05] <blekos> it is smg like de...ter
[06:05] <nalioth> blekos: debfoster or deborphan
[06:05] <TiMiDo> what do you meen? blekos
[06:05] <blekos> ???
[06:05] <thompa> the latest is version 10-1
[06:05] <blekos> yes debfoster
[06:05] <blekos> which is better?
[06:05] <thompa> if you do this you have to trick the installer
[06:05] <thompa> which is hit or miss
[06:06] <thompa> if you have to download it anyway what the point
[06:06] <glauc> Hey guys, I setup hardware raid with my onboard controller, what will the devices show up as under linux?
[06:06] <epic___> iy you're using synaptic to install be aware it has the wrong file name for the rpm, you need to change the 2 to a 1
[06:06] <blekos> is deborphan safe?
[06:06] <TiMiDo> glauc, do lspci
[06:06] <epic___> (realplayer)
[06:06] <Pedricko> when does Breezy Launch
[06:06] <tritium> yes, blekos
[06:06] <Mars__^> someone with msn ?
[06:06] <tritium> Pedricko: the 13th
[06:06] <Pedricko> Wow thanks
[06:06] <pmjdebruijn> lo all
[06:06] <Pedricko> Breezy launches on my birthday
[06:07] <glauc> timido: i'm not in front of the machine, would lspci tell me what devices they are mapped too? or are you just looking for the controller chipset?
[06:07] <pmjdebruijn> is it possible to do a ubuntu install by use of floppies (just like debian)?
[06:07] <blekos> after so many upgrades i think i need it...
[06:07] <thompa> just download and install it from http://www.real.com/
[06:07] <TiMiDo> just the controller chipset glauc
[06:07] <glauc> timido: its an nForce 3
[06:08] <TiMiDo> glauc, ok wiat a sec
[06:08] <TiMiDo> *wait
[06:08] <nalioth> blekos: it asks YOU what to do, so are YOU safe?
[06:08] <Se7h> damn im having some trouble here removing some eclipse packages
[06:08] <blekos> i get your point nalioth
[06:08] <Zubziro> does anyone know some distro live cd with loop-aes ?? (don't tell me knoppix couse it don't have multi key v3 mode)
[06:09] <TiMiDo> glauc, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/366910
[06:09] <con> :)
[06:09] <blekos> hmm
[06:09] <glauc> timido: thanks, i'll take a look
[06:09] <TiMiDo> np
[06:09] <Trewas> pfft, my bugreport of thinkpad waking no more from suspend-to-ram with latest breezy kernels was marked unconfirmed... I guess that kind of bug is hard to confirm if the developer does not have similar enough laptop, but hopefully it will magically work again with the final breezy
[06:09] <blekos> i'll have 2 think about it
[06:09] <mahangu> Zubziro, im sorta spamming b/c im with the team, but you may wanna check www.taprobane.org
[06:09] <Pedricko> is there a GOOD p2p for Linux? Im thinking like Ares for windows?
[06:09] <TiMiDo> Pedricko, gtk-gnutella
[06:09] <TiMiDo> giftcurs, limewire etc etc
[06:09] <mahangu> Pedricko, gtk-gnutella
[06:09] <Pedricko> TiMiDo can I apt-get it?
[06:09] <mahangu> bah, talk about lag :)
[06:09] <deFrysk> Pedricko, nicotine
[06:10] <Pedricko> I have limewire I hate it
[06:10] <mahangu> Pedricko, yes
[06:10] <TiMiDo> Pedricko, try apt-cache search and see
[06:10] <skyblownet> Can you config your windows-key to do something in linux?
[06:10] <Pedricko> *opens terminal*
[06:10] <TiMiDo> glauc, try also http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/nforce-linux-vf29.html
[06:10] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, yeah
[06:11] <skyblownet> howto?
[06:11] <Hendric> the rescue mode isn't helpful with LVM drives..
[06:11] <elvstone> hello again. is there any rough schedule for when 5.10 is to be released? i'm starting up a little bookshop and i just ordered some free CDs to keep at the cashier. kind of interested when they'll be sent.
[06:11] <Zubziro> mahagnu, thx
[06:12] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, check the gnome menus it should be there can't remember now, though
[06:12] <yancheng> any program in ubuntu tat can convert cd audio to mp3?
[06:12] <TiMiDo> yancheng, lame
[06:12] <funkyHat> yancheng, abcde
[06:12] <elvstone> my bookshop will open doors on 15:th of November, and it might only stay open for two months. unless it plays out really well. will 5.10 be out before that?
[06:12] <mahangu> Zubziro, np
[06:12] <NiLz> hi
[06:12] <funkyHat> (it uses lame, it's easier :)
[06:12] <TiMiDo> hi NiLz
[06:12] <NiLz> is there some mem optimization thingy in linux, for instance can I clean up unused ram every now and then
[06:12] <TiMiDo> yeah lame is easy
[06:13] <mahangu> yancheng, apt-cache search cd ripper
[06:13] <NiLz> I've noticed that my machine starts slowing down after some time of usage
[06:13] <NiLz> for instance when using firefox
[06:13] <NiLz> and constantly opening new tabs (25 tabs)
[06:13] <TiMiDo> you can run programs with whatever ram you want on terminals
[06:13] <NiLz> i have 1,3ghz 512 ram
[06:13] <NiLz> TiMiDo: oh, how can I do that?
[06:13] <yancheng> how about grip?
[06:13] <TiMiDo> what porgram do you want to run?
[06:14] <Hendric> where can i find grub.conf????
[06:14] <NiLz> firefox for instace
[06:14] <deFrysk> NiLz, what do you expect with 25 tabs ? increased speed ?
[06:14] <NiLz> deFrysk: nothing, it's just seems faster on winxp
[06:14] <NiLz> deFrysk: with 25 tabs it starts lagging here, that's why I wonder is there any way to optimize
[06:14] <TiMiDo> NiLz, firefox -width 3838
[06:14] <tritium> yancheng: there's also soundjuicer, unless you want a cli app
[06:14] <TiMiDo> or whatever u want to
[06:14] <Knelix2> Hello.
[06:14] <TiMiDo> -width value
[06:14] <TiMiDo>               Set width of startup window to value pixels.
[06:15] <Shin_Gouki> TiMiDo, how do i stop my SSH server? and will it start automaticaly next boot up?
[06:15] <Knelix2> Guys... were do I find WINE? I was looking through Synaptic... haven't found it...
[06:15] <NiLz> TiMiDo: err, pixels?
[06:15] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: sudo invoke-rc.d sshd stop
[06:15] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, yeah it will /etc/init.d/ssh stop;
[06:15] <zygis> Shin_Gouki, /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[06:15] <TiMiDo> *sshd
[06:15] <spola> Knelix2, it's in there, have you checked (multi|uni)verse?
[06:15] <zygis> Shin_Gouki, and yes, it will start on next reboot
[06:15] <Shin_Gouki> how do i avoid this? config?
[06:15] <TiMiDo> NiLz, go to . ${HOME}/.mozilla/firefox
[06:15] <mortal5> guys, I need help fixing ubuntu's support for an audigy 1 ES
[06:15] <TiMiDo> and look at the configuration there NiLz
[06:15] <windex> tritium, you are the only person i have ever known to suggest using invoke-rc.d. congratulations. :P
[06:16] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: you want to stop it personally
[06:16] <tritium> windex: :)
[06:16] <mortal5> I've read the documentation, it just appears this card isn't supported well in this distrobution
[06:16] <zAo^> Anyone who has a DEB for Klibido 0.2.4.1 for Breezy??
[06:16] <NiLz> TiMiDo: ok, what am I looking for?
[06:16] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: I mean to say permanently...
[06:16] <mortal5> which is amazing because emu10k1 supports it beutifully elsewhere
[06:16] <TiMiDo> about something with RAM,
[06:16] <NiLz> TiMiDo: a config file?
[06:17] <TiMiDo> NiLz, something that starts with ram yeah
[06:17] <TiMiDo> u can always control it with the configuration
[06:17] <mortal5> TiMiDo, wha?
[06:17] <Knelix2> spola: Ah had forgotten to add repositories after my re-install. Hehe. Thanks.
[06:17] <TiMiDo> mortal5, not you
[06:17] <yancheng> tritium: cna sound juicer extract the audio to mp3??
[06:18] <TiMiDo> yancheng, try lame dude
[06:18] <tritium> yancheng: yes
[06:18] <nalioth> zAo^: http://orniere-du-globe.net
[06:18] <TiMiDo> brb people
[06:18] <Shin_Gouki> hi! how to add root rights to an existing user?
[06:18] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: see an example here for stopping a service at boot the debian/ubuntu way: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[06:18] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, nano /etc/passwd
[06:18] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: system > admin > users and groups
[06:18] <mortal5> of course not me, I can't seem to get a straight answer as to why ubuntu doesn't support my sound card
[06:18] <Knelix2> Anyone try playing ragnarok under WINE?
[06:19] <tritium> mortal5: emu10k1 is supported.  What's the problem?
[06:19] <aspire> mortal: sound card?
[06:19] <nalioth> TiMiDo: ubuntu does things in a little different way from other *nixes
[06:19] <__filip_> when wil the stable breezy came?
[06:19] <aspire> oct 13th
[06:19] <tritium> __filip_: it's in the topic ;)
[06:19] <spola> i cant wait !
[06:19] <__filip_> i am counting :)
[06:20] <aspire> no one ever reads the topic  :)
[06:20] <zAo^> nalioth, that does not work on Breezy :(
[06:20] <__filip_> ohh, i see.
[06:20] <tritium> they should
[06:20] <tritium> zAo^: what doesn't?
[06:20] <aspire> yes, they _should_
[06:20] <mortal5> tritium, it's a Audigy 1 ES sound card
[06:20] <__filip_> sorry
[06:20] <nalioth> zAo^: are you sure? i thought i saw breezy repos there
[06:20] <mortal5> it says it's supported, but it doesn't work
[06:20] <tritium> __filip_: don't be sorry :)
[06:20] <mortal5> would you like to see my "aplay -l"?
[06:21] <zAo^> nalioth, sorry then, lemme take a closer look :$ (noticed the repo's, thats why)
[06:21] <nalioth> zAo^: i've lost my kubuntu repos dammit
[06:21] <__filip_> :=)
[06:21] <nalioth> zonic: hang on
[06:21] <tritium> !tell mortal5 about sound
[06:21] <mortal5> tritium, where is that ubuntu pastebin?
[06:21] <mortal5> tritium, I've read that, many times
[06:21] <tritium> mortal5: see the topic
[06:22] <TiMiDo> that was good, smoking a cig
[06:23] <Knelix2> Does WINE support Directx?
[06:23] <TiMiDo> nope Knelix2 cedega does,
[06:23] <smi|e> when i try too install java i get this
[06:23] <mortal5> Here is my thing about the sound
[06:23] <smi|e> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:23] <smi|e> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:23] <smi|e> is only available from another source
[06:23] <smi|e> enyc: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[06:23] <smi|e> steffan@ubuntu:~$
[06:23] <zAo^> Knelix2, nope
[06:23] <TiMiDo> smi|e, don't pasted here plz
[06:23] <mortal5> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2798
[06:23] <zAo^> nalioth, no Breezy repo on that URL, right?
[06:23] <tritium> smi|e: no pasting please
[06:24] <smi|e> make me
[06:24] <TiMiDo> lol
[06:24] <rob^^^> heya all. I've got a LiveCD where usplash works fine but X is not a happy camper. Any suggestion on boot paramaters?
[06:24] <gigaclon> kick him
[06:24] <nalioth> zAo^: try this one http://dinton.no-ip.org/
[06:25] <mortal5> lol, guess he didn't see you become op
[06:25] <mortal5> tritium, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2798
[06:25] <yccheok_> i wish to install glade 2, hence i choose package glade-gnome-2, however, i get the following error
[06:25] <yccheok_> glade-gnome-2:
[06:25] <yccheok_>  Depends: libgda2-1 but it is not going to be installed
[06:25] <yccheok_>  Depends: libgnomedb2-3 but it is not going to be installed
[06:26] <tritium> yccheok_: stop that
[06:26] <zAo^> nalioth, tried that one too :) Thnx. They have a old version of Klibido
[06:26] <yccheok_> may i noe how i can resolve this problem?
[06:26] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[06:27] <mortal5> my aplay -l output is here, I'm trying to debug my sound:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2798
[06:27] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i enable timespat in xchat?
[06:27] <rob^^^> setting DefaultDepth to 16 makes it happy
[06:27] <rob^^^> is there a way to force a default X color depth?
[06:27] <Shin_Gouki> got it thx anyway :)
[06:27] <mahangu> Shin_Gouki, time stamps?
[06:27] <mahangu> ok
[06:29] <_jason> so I just updated to breezy and my icons seem to be missing (ie trash, desktop, file icons in nautilus)... any ideas?
[06:29] <humbolt> how can I change the resolution of the boot splash screen thing?
[06:29] <mortal5> tritium, did you get to look at my output?
[06:29] <Shin_Gouki> mahangu , im finished with that :) thx anyway
[06:30] <mahangu> _jason, i havent upped yet, but im told breezy does ome big changes to nautilus
[06:30] <tritium> mortal5: no, sorry...I'm going to have to get going.  Got a situation here...
[06:30] <_jason> mahangu:  no they are missing, everything looks like a piece of paper and my trash and desktop look like IE missing picture X's D:
[06:31] <mahangu> _jason, theme?
[06:31] <_jason> mahangu:  good point, let me try
[06:31] <dreamwave> TiMiDo, this isn't working.  i'm not sure that there is a display problem.  as a test, i tried running a different live CD on the machine and had no problems.  is there a way to stop the install from changing a framebuffer?  as the screen cycles through blanking, i am seeing the word 'Killed' briefly on the screen.
[06:31] <_jason> mahangu:  thansk that was it!
[06:31] <Kaparen> I got a question: Two days ago I manually setup the NVIDIA drivers in hoary and everything was working fine, rebooted twice to check if hoary still was ok and there were no problems. yesterday I didnt login, only use XP. Today I start up Ubuntu and the screen only blink three times leaving me with a blank screen. I rolled back to my xorg.conf.back up and now everythign is working allright but how could this had happen
[06:31] <Kaparen> ed?
[06:32] <mahangu> _jason, live and learn eh :) enjoy breezy
[06:32] <mahangu> let me know how it goes
[06:32] <mahangu> im thinking of upgrading but have heard horror stories frm thinkpad users
[06:32] <mortal5> anyone else experienced with ubuntu feel like helping me?
[06:33] <mahangu> mortal5, just ask mate
[06:33] <nalioth> mortal5: ask a question, please,
[06:33] <mortal5> my audigy es sound card isn't working
[06:33] <mortal5> let me get the aplay output for ya
[06:34] <humbolt> how can I change the resolution of the console?
[06:34] <mortal5> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2798
[06:35] <mortal5> now emu10k1 is loaded, so my sound should be working
[06:35] <mortal5> but it's not
[06:35] <spiral> hi
[06:35] <yccheok_> may i noe the different between oss and mp3 format?
[06:36] <mortal5> nalioth, mahangu , either of you come across this?
[06:37] <mahangu> mortal5, nope, can't say i have, but wait for nalioth to respond
[06:37] <Knelix2> TiMiDo, zAo^: Cedega?
[06:37] <knubbe-> new updates... i upgraded. the wlan is still disabled somehow though :(-
[06:37] <mahangu> ok peeps, off to bed i go
[06:38] <mahangu> apt is updating as we speak
[06:38] <mahangu> :)
[06:38] <mahangu> night
[06:38] <nalioth> mortal5: i'm sorry. i have no experience with sound issues
[06:39] <dreamwave> hmm.  looks like /usr/share/debconf/frontend is crashing.  or /sbin/debian-installer is crashing.
[06:39] <zAo^> Knelix2, yes, Cedega does
[06:39] <mortal5> *sigh that's ok
[06:40] <mortal5> one more thing before I head out, has anyone here noticed ubuntu actually "turning there system on" in the middle of the night?
[06:40] <nalioth> zAo^: did you get that last URL i sent?
[06:40] <mortal5> I would love to know how it does this, and how I can make it stop lol
[06:41] <zAo^> nalioth, http://dinton.no-ip.org/ ?
[06:41] <mortal5> I don't like hearing drums at 4 am
[06:41] <mshade> Does anyone know what gam_server does?
[06:41] <mshade> in /usr/lib/gamin ?
[06:41] <knubbe-> anyone else whove experienced that when you are about to change your settings under "network settings" everything is grey'ed out, and it says you need administrator access. and when you press the button and fill in your password its still grey'ed out.
[06:41] <mortal5> actually i don't hear anything, but it's spooky
[06:41] <zAo^> nalioth, tried that one too :) Thnx. But they have an old version of Klibido
[06:42] <nalioth> mshade: it keeps track of your files. (nautilus and konqueror use it)
[06:42] <mshade> it appears to have a memory leak:)
[06:42] <nalioth> zAo^: use the source repos on that page and build it under breezy
[06:42] <mshade> thanks nalioth
[06:42] <zAo^> nalioth, donno how to build a deb :$
[06:42] <dooglus> wow.  where did those 3 hours disappear to???
[06:43] <nalioth> zAo^: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[06:43] <mahangu-sleep> dooglus, heh
[06:43] <mahangu-sleep> happens to me all the time :)
[06:43] <dooglus> wesnoth is quite absorbing, isn't it?
[06:43] <mahangu-sleep> dooglus, oh reminds me, i have to apt-get that
[06:43] <mahangu-sleep> can i do it while system updates though? prolly not eh?
[06:43] <mahangu-sleep> well off to bed
[06:43] <dooglus> mahangu-sleep: you can get the 1.0 .debs from debian
[06:44] <mahangu-sleep> dooglus, id rather apt-get :)
[06:44] <dooglus> and no, you can't - only one apt-get / aptitude / debfoster / dpkg / whatever at a time
[06:44] <mahangu-sleep> nighto anyway, up in 7 hours or so
[06:44] <dooglus> ah  - synaptic - that's what I was forgetting.
[06:45] <dreamwave> is there a way to not have the install process switch to a framebuffer?
[06:45] <mshade> anyone else experiencing very high memory usage from gam_server ?
[06:45] <nalioth> mshade: lots of folks. close nautilus or konqeror and it should stop
[06:45] <mshade> nalioth: i didn't have either open -- had to kill gam_server directly
[06:46] <nalioth> mshade: yes, that happens, too
[06:46] <mshade> that's comforting...
[06:47] <humbolt> if I append video=vesafb:1280x800-16@60 to my kernel options, does this conflict (decrease performance) with using the proprietary nvidia drivers for xorg?
[06:51] <x_or> I've installed proftpd, and certain users can login, but certain users cannot.  Do I need to users to a certain group that I want to permit FTP access?  Anyone know?
[06:51] <LeeColleton> my Breezy system won't play multiple soundfiles.  polypaudio has some trouble with module-alsa-sink.c opening the PCM device
[06:51] <_jason> lol my totem plays things in black and white now, anyone have this problem after breezy?
[06:52] <dooglus> i don't
[06:52] <dooglus> totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[06:52] <stefan_> can I get my ISP's DNS automaticly in some way?
[06:53] <_jason> dooglus: both, I upgraded to totem-xine when I say it in gstreamer... it uses the codec MPEG (libmpeg2) do you know if there is a newer one?
[06:53] <dooglus> no, i don't
[06:53] <dooglus> _jason: did you try mplayer?  is that the same?  could it be the saturation is turned down on the video overlay?
[06:54] <Da_SWAT> quick question. I have a process (emelfm2) which doesn't want to be killed. Not even with "sudo kill -9 <pid>". Anything else I can try?
[06:54] <_jason> mplayer is the same
[06:54] <lucaz> How can I check wich audio codec is used in some file?
[06:54] <_jason> dooglus: how can i change the saturation?
[06:54] <mshade> Da_SWAT: try sudo kill -15 <pid>
[06:54] <TokenBad> you can't install mplayer into kubuntu?
[06:55] <dooglus> _jason: I have a crappy sis card,and I use 'sisctrl' to adjust the levels.  I guess it's different for different cards
[06:55] <nalioth> TokenBad: you can
[06:55] <Da_SWAT> mshade, nope, still nothing
[06:55] <nitroflea> Has anyone actually got their Audigy LS stable in breezy?
[06:55] <vegiVamp> TokenBad: add universe and multiverse to your package list, look on the wiki for more info
[06:55] <_jason> dooglus:  oh ok
[06:55] <TokenBad> cause default program just crashed
[06:56] <mshade> Da_SWAT: xkill?
[06:56] <mshade> Da_SWAT: it's still running graphically?
[06:56] <Da_SWAT> mshade, yes it's still visible on xorg and with ps -x
[06:56] <mshade> Da_SWAT: run xkill from a terminal and click on its window
[06:57] <blekos> is there an equivelant of dvdshring in linux?
[06:57] <Da_SWAT> mshade, xkilll worked :)
[06:57] <mshade> blekos: dvdrip, drip, acidrip
[06:57] <Da_SWAT> mshade, thank you very much :)
[06:57] <mshade> Da_SWAT: good
[06:57] <mshade> Da_SWAT: no worries
[06:57] <blekos> which would you recommend?
[06:58] <lucaz> How can I check wich audio codec is used in some file that its not working on mplayer and xine?
[06:58] <nalioth> lucaz: open a terminal and type "file filename.foo"
[06:58] <mshade> blekos: acidrip is probably the friendliest, but dvdrip seems to be the most featureful
[06:58] <blekos> i c
[06:58] <_jason> ok freaky... now its in color... I didn't do anything
[06:59] <_jason> maybe they've got some ai in this version of ubuntu
[06:59] <daved> can somsone send me the default ubuntu kernel 2.6.12 config ?
[06:59] <daved> i dont have it since i'm doing a debootstrap install
[06:59] <lucaz> nalioth, Desktop/100_0809.MOV: Apple QuickTime movie (modified), I thought that the mplayer's codec supported quicktime..
[06:59] <blekos> here comes another question...
[07:00] <nalioth> lucaz: do you have libquicktime installed?
[07:00] <blekos> how can I create a "folder" in the apllications menu
[07:00] <daved> can somsone send me the default ubuntu kernel 2.6.12 config ?
[07:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell blekos about smeg
[07:00] <blekos> or better a subcategory appl->office->sub cat
[07:01] <blekos> thnx
[07:01] <daved> it will be in /boot called config-*stuff*.gz
[07:01] <daved> please send me the latest one for a 2.6.12 kernel
[07:01] <stefan_> epic___ I change the DNS settings and it works fine (so long). thanks for your help
[07:02] <daved> can somsone send me the default ubuntu kernel 2.6.12 config ?
[07:02] <_jason> is "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main universe multiverse restricted" ok in breezy?
[07:02] <gearry> daved: I am looking for the same thing for 2.6.10
[07:02] <lucaz> nalioth, if doesn't come with the essential mplayer package, I dont have it..
[07:03] <nalioth> _jason: mirrormax should no longer be used
[07:03] <nalioth> _jason: and breezy isnt finished yet to have backports
[07:03] <mshade> daved: coming your way
[07:03] <nalioth> lucaz: install "libquicktime
[07:03] <daved> mshade: thanks
[07:04] <gearry> mshade: where can I find the same thing for 2.6.10?
[07:04] <lucaz> nalioth, :)
[07:04] <_jason> nalioth:  ok so no extras yet then  thanks
[07:04] <daved> mshade: not sending.. you behind a nat?
[07:05] <mshade> gearry: not sure, i had it on my system
[07:05] <mshade> daved: got it?
[07:06] <JairunCaloth> can someone help me get this windoze drive mounted?
[07:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell JairunCaloth about windowsdrives
[07:07] <mshade> daved: did you get that link?
[07:07] <daved> yeah
[07:07] <daved> thanks
[07:07] <wordydude> greetings all
[07:07] <daved> does anyone know of a .deb for the 2.6.12 kernel with xen0/xenU support?
[07:08] <mshade> daved: download the config now, i'm not leaving it on the server
[07:09] <wordydude> I installed ubuntu and I am at the login screen.  I did not set-up a user account/password.  Whats are the default settings?
[07:09] <daved> mshade, done
[07:09] <_Simon[work] > afternoon all. I have an audio app that uses OSS, I'm on breezy, I installed alsa-oss, but its still not working, it uses PortAudio, it says "PortAudio: Read Interrupted!", is there anything I need to do to enable alsa-oss besides install the package? thanks in advance!
[07:10] <Blissex> wordydude: now that's an interesting question...
[07:10] <Blissex> wordydude: because Ubuntu by default does not allow 'root' logins :-).
[07:10] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : why are you using alsa-oss?
[07:10] <avalost> i'm surprised it allows you to continue without adding a user
[07:11] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: because the app I'm trying to use, uses OSS
[07:11] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: and it doesn't work, so I thought alsa-oss is what I required, for the OSS emulation
[07:11] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : if you know the app requires direct oss, just stop esd and use your app
[07:11] <crimsun> no, alsa-oss is _only_ required if you want to _wrap_ your oss application to use alsa
[07:11] <wordydude> Blissed: Interesting point.  Guess, I am re-installing, cause I don't know of another way to get around this.
[07:12] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: hmm, so when I start distributing my application, I need to tell all users of ubuntu to stop esd so my app can run?
[07:12] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: oh I see
[07:12] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : no, they don't need to do anything on _Breezy_. On Breezy esd releases the device after an idle period.
[07:12] <crimsun> They can just use that application.
[07:13] <avalost> I just uploaded a re-write of ubuntu-geek's automated setup script for breezy: anyone wanna test it out for me?: http://gawth.org/?id=lin
[07:13] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: hmm, but I'm not using the audio device at the moment in any player or anything, and the app still won't work
[07:13] <avalost> you need to be using breezy for it
[07:13] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : but are you using Hoary or Breezy?
[07:13] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: breezy I believe, is there a quick way to double check?
[07:13] <crimsun> lsb_release -a|grep ^Codename
[07:14] <JairunCaloth> ah ha! It was hdb2 not hdb
[07:14] <_Simon[work] > breezy
[07:15] <_Simon[work] > how do I stop esd just to make sure if that allows it to work
[07:15] <crov> Hi all,when ever i try to install some packages i get E: Couldn't find package java-package
[07:15] <_Simon[work] > does it matter if I'm in KDE or gnome?
[07:16] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : there's an "easy but not so good" way, and there's a "good" way
[07:16] <_Simon[work] > in KDE, under sound I have:
[07:16] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : if you're in KDE, you're using arts not esd
[07:16] <_Simon[work] > enable sound system
[07:16] <_Simon[work] > hmm ok
[07:17] <_Simon[work] > if I log out of kde, and log into gnome, it'll run esd?
[07:17] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : the instructions are different for Kubuntu than to Ubuntu
[07:17] <crimsun> yes
[07:17] <_Simon[work] > ok let me log into gnome just so I can follow better, I did try in gnome as well
[07:17] <crimsun> in KDE, set arts to release the sound device after 2 seconds
[07:17] <crimsun> no
[07:17] <_Simon[work] > k
[07:18] <_Simon[work] > right now under hardware, its set to autodetect
[07:18] <_Simon[work] > should I set it to enlighten sound daemon
[07:18] <_Simon[work] > or leave it
[07:18] <crimsun> leave it
[07:18] <crimsun> just set the idle timeout to 2 seconds
[07:18] <_Simon[work] > k doing
[07:18] <crov> how to update apg-get list to recognize " sudo apt-get install java-package java-common
[07:18] <crov> "
[07:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell crov about sources
[07:19] <mere> apt-get update
[07:19] <_Simon[work] > ok.. it restarted the sound daemon.. lemme give it some time to idle or what not
[07:19] <mere> it will read and retrieve lists from the servers it's configured to read
[07:19] <gearry> daved: sorry, I got called away for a moment
[07:19] <mere> but then it's not bad idea to make sure the packages you are about to install _are_ in those lists.
[07:19] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: nope still nothing
[07:20] <joee> hey how do I check if wajig start oracle succeeded?
[07:20] <_Simon[work] > PortAudio: read interrupted! 40 times then segfault lol
[07:20] <sportman> meh
[07:20] <gearry> daved: if I copy that file I have to rename it correct; it should be just config correct?
[07:20] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: do I need any packages or anything for oss?
[07:22] <crov> mere: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:23] <mere> loked? o.o is apt being used?
[07:23] <nalioth> crov: use sudo before your command
[07:24] <crov> nalioth: ops :))
[07:25] <mere> sudo apt-cache search <keyword> should lookup what you want in the lists apt retrieves
[07:25] <crov> is breezy have this package E: Couldn't find package java-package i need it for java in firefox...
[07:25] <bslima> how can i update my ubuntu for 5.10 ?
[07:25] <mere> eerm no need to use sudo in apt-cache i think
[07:25] <zAo^> bslima, www.ubuntuguide.org | search for breezy
[07:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell crov about javadeb
[07:25] <nalioth> zAo^: please dont advise ubuntuguide
[07:26] <zAo^> k
[07:26] <bslima> zAo^, Warning! This is still in it's development stage. Only use it for experimental purposes
[07:26] <bslima>          Doing this might break your entire system
[07:26] <bslima> still warning ?
[07:26] <windex> !ubuntuguide
[07:26] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[07:26] <lon3tree> hi windex
[07:27] <zAo^> bslima, I know. But hey, the guy asked
[07:27] <lon3tree> hi bigpolar
[07:28] <gearry> daved: I hope I did not annoy you
[07:28] <crov> nalioth: let me try this thnx
[07:29] <gearry> I need to build some modules from patched kernel source, but I want to use the default ubuntu kernel config, which daved showed me is in /boot; how can I apply this config to the source?
[07:29] <_jason> I would just like to say that I am very impressed with breezy :D
[07:30] <zAo^> gearry, the config of the Ubuntukernel is in /boot/config-`uname -r`
[07:31] <dreamwave> what do i use to burn an iso image?  i can't find the option in the nautilus cd/dvd creator.
[07:31] <gearry> can I just copy /boot/config-2.6.10-5-386 to /path/to/kernelsrc/config?
[07:31] <scenestar> hello
[07:31] <HappyFool> dreamwave: right click on the .iso file in nautilus -- there should be a 'burn' option
[07:31] <nalioth> dreamwave: use k3b, or graveman or gnomebaker
[07:31] <HappyFool> gearry: i think it might be '.config'
[07:32] <zAo^> gearry, if its the same version, yes
[07:32] <HappyFool> gearry: have you read the kernelhowto on the wiki?
[07:32] <gearry> it is the same version
[07:32] <scenestar> im having trouble configurinh wine, i cannot isntall dcom98
[07:32] <scenestar> even if i compile the daily cvs
[07:32] <HappyFool> scenestar: tried asking in #winehq ?
[07:32] <dreamwave> HappyFool, "Write to disc..."?
[07:32] <Secreth`X> (I splitted one partition into 2, but can I install Ubuntu on part 2 when still having windows installed on part 1?)
[07:32] <scenestar> HappyFool: tried that, ill try again
[07:33] <HappyFool> dreamwave: i think that's it
[07:33] <gearry> HappyFool: no, but I will go check that out now
[07:33] <Secreth`X> sorry for my talker..
[07:33] <HappyFool> !tell gearry about kernelhowto
[07:35] <Secreth`X> I splitted one partition into 2, but can I install Ubuntu on part 2 when still having windows installed on part 1?
[07:35] <gearry> HappyFool: I had found it, but thank you
[07:36] <nalioth> Secreth`X: open a terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l"
[07:36] <randomc0de> is it possible to make the deadzone on a multimonitor setup unusable? like prevent GNOME from putting anything there?
[07:36] <lon3tree> anyone use pptpconfig here?
[07:36] <thesilentkiller> i have a bash scripting issue. not related to ubuntu, but i thought you guys could help. i am trying to create a bash script which does something as simple as "cd ..". i typed this command in a file myscript.sh (without the quotes). when i run it, i get the error ": No such file or directory cd:". any clues?
[07:36] <Secreth`X> nalioth: it was a question if i can do that
[07:36] <nalioth> thesilentkiller: what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:36] <Secreth`X> i didnt do it already
[07:36] <nalioth> Secreth`X: yes you can
[07:36] <spola> thesilentkiller, cd isnt a program, its a shll builtin
[07:37] <Secreth`X> nalioth thanks
[07:37] <lon3tree> pptpconfig , anybody?
[07:37] <HappyFool> what's the mode to prevent spam? /mode HappyFool +E ?
[07:37] <thesilentkiller> spola: then, how should i "cd" to a directory and do some stuff there?
[07:37] <obiyoda> Hi, I am trying to use videolan but it is trying to open up the oss audio device when it should be opening the esd device. Does anybody know how to change this?
[07:37] <nalioth> HappyFool: the network has the spam thing enabled by defauult
[07:37] <spola> thesilentkiller, beats me, just use absolute paths
[07:38] <gearry> HappyFool: ubuntu documentation rules
[07:38] <thesilentkiller> spola: hmm, interesting. thanks. i will use relative paths from wherever i am running the script from
[07:38] <gearry> I need to train myself to look at the wiki first
[07:38] <spola> yeah you can use relative paths too, that might even be better
[07:39] <egoleo> how to install codecs
[07:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell egoleo about w32codecs
[07:39] <thesilentkiller> nalioth: i am trying to run some commands (copy a few files , etc) from a script file. spola tells me that "cd" is not a command. so it cant be run from a script file. what other way can i "cd" to a directory from a script file?
[07:39] <crov> nalioth: when i download "sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb" what is safe way to install to work with firefox :)
[07:39] <nalioth> crov: "sudo dkpg -i file.deb"
[07:40] <crov> nalioth: thnx that way i know :)) (Downloading brb)
[07:41] <egoleo> which one should i choose
[07:41] <egoleo> the codecs
[07:41] <nalioth> egoleo: breezy or hoary?
[07:41] <egoleo> breezy
[07:41] <morale> fuck linux sucks on amd64
[07:42] <egoleo> breezy
[07:42] <nalioth> egoleo: then the breezy ones
[07:42] <pmjdebruijn> morale, every OS sucks on amd64
[07:42] <morale> ld.so is stupid.
[07:42] <pmjdebruijn> because third party vendors are retarded
[07:42] <randomc0de> anyone know if it's possible to stop GNOME from putting anything in the deadzone between a multimonitor setup? I have a 1280x1024 LCD and 1024x786 CRT
[07:42] <nalioth> morale: please watch your language
[07:42] <egoleo> which one is for breezy
[07:42] <egoleo> http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[07:42] <humbolt> how can I get my bootsplash+console run at 1024x768 or 1280x800?
[07:42] <Jhair> I don't have any problems with ubuntu on amd64, what do you exactly mean morale
[07:42] <nalioth> egoleo: read the msg ubotu sent you
[07:42] <thierryl> mmmh I ve got Breezy badger runing well on AMD 64 FX 57
[07:42] <egoleo> it takes me to that site
[07:43] <egoleo> ok
[07:43] <BOB1234> hey all
[07:43] <egoleo> i have downloaded
[07:43] <egoleo> so how do i install it
[07:43] <BOB1234> guys i need help getting wireless internet working on hoary
[07:43] <nalioth> egoleo: run it in your bittorrent client
[07:43] <egoleo> its got .torrent
[07:43] <egoleo> ok
[07:44] <BOB1234> my wireless works in windows xp but not in hoary
[07:44] <primero> Hola
[07:44] <lon3tree> does anyone here use pptpconfig for vpn server?
[07:44] <tarzeau> nobody join us? gnu.ethz.ch:33276 with http://bub-n-bros.sf.net ?
[07:45] <BOB1234> is there any commands i can run to get it to detect wireless?
[07:45] <Jhair> lon3tree: i do use pptp to connect to my vpn but I configured it manually, not using pptpconfig
[07:45] <lon3tree> oh great, finally
[07:45] <egoleo> so after tht what next
[07:45] <nalioth> BOB1234: iwlist
[07:45] <pmjdebruijn> tarzeau, damn, that looks really cool
[07:45] <NoUse> BOB1234 there is a wireless config app in the network config app
[07:46] <BOB1234> k h/o
[07:46] <BOB1234> brb
[07:46] <lon3tree> Jhair, how do I get the client to see the rest of the PC in the LAN?
[07:46] <nalioth> egoleo: in a terminal, type "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[07:46] <tarzeau> pmjdebruijn: and it's pretty LOL, we're 3 players already
[07:46] <pmjdebruijn> tarzeau, heh, gotta compiler that later on
[07:46] <egoleo> ok
[07:46] <egoleo> xiexie
[07:46] <tarzeau> pmjdebruijn: it's python, nothing to compile
[07:46] <Jhair> lon3tree: you should add a route when the ppp1 interface is up
[07:46] <pmjdebruijn> tarzeau, oh cool...
[07:47] <lon3tree> how ? -- Jhair
[07:47] <lon3tree> wat the commandline ?
[07:47] <lon3tree> where do i add the route?
[07:47] <lon3tree> on the vpn server?
[07:47] <Jhair> lon3tree: I added that to /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/1vpn_routes-up
[07:48] <BOB1234> nalioth i ran that command it just did a whole bunch of stuff that said [interface]  encryption [interface]  channels
[07:48] <BOB1234> NoUse where is the wireless config app
[07:48] <lon3tree> can I PM you Jhair?
[07:48] <Jhair> lon3tree: I will paste that file for you, wait a minute
[07:48] <lon3tree> oh great
[07:48] <lon3tree> thank you
[07:48] <VeRiTTo> HI
[07:48] <flogiston> Is it posible to install only the kernell, X, fluxbox, and synaptic from the cd?
[07:49] <VeRiTTo> May you tell me What is channel spanish ubuntus?
[07:49] <nalioth> !es
[07:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:49] <mkyb14> does anyone know how to enable a second hd.... it's not letting me enable my other hd?
[07:49] <Ofe> !fi
[07:49] <ubotu> Ofe: Not a clue
[07:49] <VeRiTTo> Gracias
[07:49] <BOB1234> !wireless
[07:49] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:50] <nalioth> you guys quit !fishing
[07:50] <nalioth> !ubotu
[07:50] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:50] <nalioth> yall read the URL and see all the factoids
[07:50] <Jhair> lon3tree: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2800
[07:51] <Ofe> someone change !fi to "Suomalaiset: Suomea puhutaan kanavalla #ubuntu-fi" <- in english: "Finnish people: Finnish is spoken in channel #ubuntu-fi"
[07:51] <Jhair> lon3tree: of course you need to adjust it to the name of your provider file, your network and your interface, but so you can adjust the route table
[07:51] <mkyb14> anyone know how to enable a second hd....and what the "path" means in to program
[07:51] <obiyoda> does anybody know how to change the audio device that vlc uses?
[07:51] <apokryphos> Ofe: you can change it, too :)
[07:51] <lon3tree> thanks Jhair
[07:51] <lon3tree> i will look at it now
[07:51] <mkyb14> it's default upon the system.. change your system audio and vlc will follow
[07:51] <Jhair> lon3tree: the script will run after the vpn connection has been established and adjust the route table so you can access the machines on your lan
[07:52] <miraculix> hi
[07:52] <Ofe> apokryphos: I can? o.O no operator/moderator status needed?
[07:52] <apokryphos> Ofe: that's right! Just like a wiki
[07:52] <Ofe> apokryphos: cool. open source rocks
[07:52] <BOB1234> nouse can u tell me where the wireless network config app is
[07:52] <BOB1234> for ubuntu
[07:52] <nalioth> Ofe: try it now
[07:52] <apokryphos> Ofe: nothing really to do with open source, but yeah :P
[07:53] <Secreth`X> does someone have expierience with FIPS? (a program for splitting partitions)
[07:53] <lon3tree> Jhair
[07:53] <nalioth> Secreth`X: use parted
[07:53] <Ofe> apokryphos: well, the spirit is that anyone can do it if willing, right? :)
[07:53] <Secreth`X> parted?
[07:53] <Ofe> !fi
[07:53] <ubotu> I guess fi is "Suomalaiset: Suomea puhutaan kanavalla #ubuntu-fi"
[07:53] <Shin_Gouki> hi is it in theory possible to install oracle 10g on ubuntu?
[07:53] <lon3tree> how should i go about with this script?
[07:53] <apokryphos> Ofe: correct
[07:53] <robin_> Is there a code-freeze on Breezy ? Or will there be significant changes before the release ? Otherwise I will install it now.
[07:53] <mknittel> anyone know where mono-devel went in universe?
[07:53] <Ofe> thanks nalioth.
[07:53] <nalioth> robin_: code freeze since 3 weeks ago
[07:53] <mkyb14> install it now, you'll be fine
[07:54] <Jhair> lon3tree: I am not sure if the script is actually answering your question.can you connect to the vpn?
[07:54] <VeRiTTo> Nobody write in ubuntus-es
[07:54] <robin_> nalioth: ok, so only bug fixes ?
[07:54] <crov> which icq client for ubuntu you ppl use?
[07:54] <nalioth> robin_: yup
[07:54] <mkyb14> xchat
[07:54] <apokryphos> VeRiTTo: it's not as active as here, but people do write in it
[07:54] <robin_> nalioth: ok, thx.
[07:54] <lon3tree> yes
[07:54] <Jhair> lon3tree: you should put the script in the /etc/ppp/ip-up.d directry
[07:54] <lon3tree> i can connect
[07:54] <Shin_Gouki> hi anybody here did EVER install oracle on ubuntu?
[07:54] <mkyb14> not i
[07:54] <mere> crov, centericq (myself) gaim can handle it too.
[07:54] <lon3tree> and name it 1vpn_routes-up ?
[07:54] <Jhair> lon3tree: can you ping machines on your network using their IP address?
[07:55] <BOB1234> where is there wireless network coniguration app ? anyone?
[07:55] <RockyBurt> ok, this is getting really annoying... on breezy right now my firefox starts exhibiting really bizarre symptoms when i try searching using the find at the bottom of the window ... anyone else see this?
[07:55] <Jhair> lon3tree: the name doesn't matter, you can name it as you want
[07:55] <lon3tree> no i can't Jhair
[07:55] <mkyb14> google the wireless network config
[07:55] <lon3tree> i can only ping on the server machines
[07:55] <Jhair> lon3tree: ok, than probably what is missing is the right route so you need to set it
[07:55] <mkyb14> lon3tree your trying to ping the other computers on your internal network?
[07:55] <pvh> I'm having trouble with printing. Are there any troubleshooting guides?
[07:55] <lon3tree> no mkyb14
[07:56] <Jhair> lon3tree: probably is a better idea if you test without the script but setting the route table manually
[07:56] <Secreth`X> nalioth: does parted need to format the partition?
[07:56] <crov> can also apache 1.3.33 work with ubuntu, as in http://ubuntuguide.org/#installapachehttpserve is only writed on apache2
[07:56] <Jhair> lon3tree: and then testing if you can ping the other machines
[07:56] <lon3tree> after connected to the VPN i tried to ping on the other machines on the remote
[07:56] <lon3tree> it is a great help Jhair
[07:56] <nalioth> Secreth`X: parted can shrink your existing partitions, leaving you with free space for linux
[07:57] <lon3tree> how do I go about with manual ip table?
[07:57] <nalioth> Secreth`X: see g- or qt- for parted frontends
[07:57] <lon3tree> sorry if i sound stupid
[07:58] <lon3tree> i mean route table
[07:58] <Jhair> lon3tree: that depends on your network, the script that I sent you does: route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 dev ppp1
[07:58] <BOB1234> anyone know how to add a wireless network to ubuntu (hoary)
[07:58] <crov> mere: what is the package name for the centericq as "sudo apt-get install centericq" is not found
[07:59] <lon3tree> and 10.0.0.0 is the remote LAN ip?
[07:59] <Jhair> lon3tree: you should check if you have the ppp1 interface up after you connect to the vpn, the values for netmask and after -net may change from network to network so you should ask your network administrator for that information
[07:59] <Secreth`X> ok thx nalioth
[07:59] <lon3tree> yes i have Jhair
[07:59] <thompa> hey anybody: im running breezy badger rc, can i just keep updating it and not have to install the final release?
[07:59] <apokryphos> thompa: of course
[07:59] <lon3tree> one question Jhair
[07:59] <Secreth`X> nalioth: so if I understand you correctly, its not splitting it, but shrinking it?
[07:59] <apokryphos> thompa: if you do a dist-upgrade after the release-date you'll have official anyway
[07:59] <Jhair> lon3tree: yes in that case -net 10.0.0.0 is the network
[08:00] <g_ariel> hey, ubuntu lovers, how the heck do i install skype for Ubuntu?
[08:00] <lon3tree> so I do this on client?
[08:00] <nalioth> Secreth`X: yes parted can shring your windows partition
[08:00] <thompa> apokryphos: how can i remove old kernekl entries in grub then
[08:00] <Secreth`X> nalioth: thanks again for all your help
[08:00] <Jhair> lon3tree: which client do you mean?
[08:00] <apokryphos> thompa: removing the kernel should remove them...
[08:00] <apokryphos> thompa: you likely still have them installed
[08:00] <lon3tree> the pptp client?
[08:01] <BOB1234> How do I add a wireless network to ubuntu
[08:01] <thompa> thanks, where can i remove the older kernels?
[08:01] <thompa> should i use synaptic?
[08:01] <Jhair> lon3tree: I haven't used the pptp client myself, but probably it has some dialog boxes to enter that information. In fact the information about the route table doesn't depend on the pptp client it only depends on the interface
[08:01] <Shinjan> hi folks
[08:01] <apokryphos> thompa: sure
[08:02] <zeasier> how do i run an installation script after installation?
[08:02] <VeRiTTo> Hi! Anybody can tell me how do a mount the pendrive?
[08:02] <ompaul> zeasier, what do you want to achieve
[08:02] <BOB1234> is there a command i can run in the terminal to detect wireless??????
[08:02] <BOB1234> besides iwlist
[08:02] <BOB1234> because i already ran that and idk wat it did
[08:02] <zeasier> ompaul - i've got a system with messed up networking i want to run the network configuration again
[08:02] <buzzc1> BOB1234: try iwconifg
[08:03] <Secreth`X> nalioth: It can only run under linux, I have windows by default so can I use parted in the Ubuntu Live cd ?
[08:03] <lon3tree> hmmm, its getting deeper
[08:03] <thompa> is anybody using kde here. im new to gnome
[08:03] <nalioth> BOB1234: you need to look at your options in iwlist
[08:03] <nalioth> Secreth`X: yes
[08:03] <thompa> so far gnome seems ok
[08:03] <nalioth> Secreth`X: defragment your windows first
[08:03] <ompaul> zeasier, you don't want to run an installation script :) you want to run System Administration Networking
[08:03] <Secreth`X> ok
[08:03] <Secreth`X> nalioth thx
[08:03] <Jhair> lon3tree: is not that complicated, you just need to have the right route table, the one liner I sent you with the correct parameters should do it
[08:03] <BOB1234> i ran iwconfig and it told me that no wireless extensions found] 
[08:04] <ompaul> zeasier, is it wireless?
[08:04] <zeasier> ompaul - yes that would be fine, but this is a server
[08:04] <Jhair> lon3tree: if you already have that information from your network administrator you are ready
[08:04] <lon3tree> yes I noe Jhair
[08:04] <zeasier> ompaul - so there is no X or gnome
[08:04] <BOB1234> nalioth what options...where do I choose options in iwlist
[08:04] <lon3tree> but do i do the route on the server or on my client machine?
[08:04] <ompaul> zeasier, that is fine you want to run pppoeconf
[08:04] <thompa> i need to ask this again sorry
[08:04] <thompa> in disk manager,
[08:04] <ompaul> zeasier, that is fine you want to run pppoe-discovery may also be useful
[08:04] <Jhair> lon3tree: on your machine, sure... are you the administrator of the vpn server?
[08:04] <thompa> where do i set my windows access path?
[08:05] <pinko> hello.  so what do you do when lsusb lists your printer but gnome-cups-manager can't find it?
[08:05] <nalioth> BOB1234: you need to run "iwlist scan" you also need to be aware of "man iwlist"
[08:05] <zeasier> ompaul - pppoe-discovery? i just just have a static ip on a local network
[08:05] <lon3tree> yes Jhair
[08:05] <Cryptid> i tried downloading real player(installer) but during the set up it ask me for the directory where the real player got saved can some 1 please tell me where it got saved
[08:05] <BOB1234> nalioth : dont type "man iwlist" rite?
[08:05] <ompaul> zeasier, then pppoeconf as already mentioned, people do run servers with dydns :)
[08:06] <BOB1234> or u mean just look for it in "iwlist scan"
[08:06] <Jhair> lon3tree: btw, the howtos on http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/ are worth read, probably you can find there more details
[08:06] <ompaul> paul_lost, your are in #ubuntu :)
[08:06] <thompa> anybody: in disks manager where should i set my windows ntfs partition?
[08:06] <nalioth> Cryptid: /usr/local/lib/mozilla/plugins or ~/.mozilla/plugins are good places for realplayer
[08:06] <ompaul> !tell thompa about ntfs
[08:07] <thompa> thanks
[08:07] <ompaul> thompa, that message from ubotu will sort you out
[08:07] <nalioth> BOB1234: type "iwlist scan" to look for things
[08:07] <BOB1234> nalioth: iwlist scan returned - "interface does not support scanning"
[08:07] <nalioth> BOB1234: type "man iwlist" to learn all of iwlist functions
[08:07] <thompa> ok great
[08:07] <paul_lost> hey does anyone know how to get my belkin F5d7050 usb wi-fi to work on ubuntu 5.10
[08:07] <nalioth> BOB1234: then you'll need to ask how to have that enabled (i dont know how)
[08:07] <thompa> ill avoid the disk manager for now then
[08:08] <ompaul> thompa, that would be the idea :)
[08:08] <BOB1234> wtf....i dont get it at all
[08:08] <Blissex> paul_lost: someone does.
[08:08] <thompa> ompaul: since it gave me trouble before anyway
[08:08] <thompa> thanks
[08:08] <BOB1234> shit..im never going to get this working
[08:08] <paul_lost> blissex... know who?
[08:09] <Cryptid> nalioth how do i get real player via aptget
[08:09] <anethema> doh
[08:09] <anethema> getting some stupid error
[08:09] <anethema> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmp4v2-0_2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libmp4v2.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmp4-0
[08:09] <Blissex> paul_lost: this guy perhaps: http://WWW.LinuxQuestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=2820 but 'ndiswrapper' is ugly
[08:09] <ompaul> thompa, enjoy (said without the cheesy grin of a person in a burger selling location)
[08:09] <anethema> upping to breezy
[08:09] <nalioth> Cryptid: get the helixplayer
[08:09] <thompa> cheerio!
[08:09] <zeasier> i keep getting "portmap: server localhost not responding, timed out" and "RPC: failed to contact portmap (errno -5)." in /var/log/kern.log. does anyone know what is going on?
[08:09] <lon3tree> thanks a lot Jhair
[08:10] <paul_lost> cheers i will give that a try
[08:10] <anethema> anyone know what i should do?
[08:10] <lon3tree> I will read up and try out
[08:10] <Blissex> paul_lost: and this open source driver allegedly now works, the very lastest version: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Downloads
[08:10] <zeasier> that is why i'm asking how to redo my networking install, because something fundemental seems broken
[08:10] <BOB1234> can anyone tell me how to make wireless work on ubuntu HOARY
[08:11] <crov> mere: what is the package name for the centericq as "sudo apt-get install centericq" is not found
[08:11] <pinko> I'll ask again, just in case:  what do you do when lsusb lists your printer but gnome-cups-manager can't find it?
[08:11] <Dreamglider> the updates i have downloaded can i save them so i dont have to download them again if i need to reinstall Ubuntu ?
[08:12] <nalioth> crov: "apt-cache search centericq"
[08:12] <paul_lost> i am totally new to linux where can i get a simple as in just left windows simple guide to installing new drivers/devices
[08:12] <nalioth> Dreamglider: apt-get saves its pkgs, yes
[08:12] <anethema> centericq should work
[08:12] <anethema> at least its there in breezy
[08:12] <apokryphos> crov: it's in Universe; enable the repository then you can install it
[08:12] <nalioth> paul_lost: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[08:12] <BOB1234> does anyone have wireless working in ubuntu
[08:12] <ompaul> BOB1234, have you done ndiswrapper?
[08:13] <shedi> BOB1234, yes, mine is working so fine
[08:13] <JDahl> paul_lost, normally you don't install new drivers. What specifically is your problem?
[08:13] <Dreamglider> nalioth,  i used the Update manager in ubuntu, are the pkgs allso saved then ?
[08:13] <BOB1234> no ompaul
[08:13] <mkyb14> can anyone suggest a good yahoo chat client for linux??
[08:13] <BOB1234> oim gonna go try that BRB
[08:13] <paul_lost> just going to do ndiswrapper now
[08:13] <Gwildor> mknittel, gaim
[08:13] <thompa> !tell thompa about nvidia
[08:13] <nalioth> Dreamglider: yup. updae mangler uses apt as its backend
[08:13] <ompaul> !tell BOB1234 about ndiswrapper
[08:13] <thompa> !nvidia
[08:13] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:14] <Dreamglider> nalioth, ok and where ard the pkgs saved ?
[08:14] <hussam> Dreamglider: do this, sudo tar zcvf apt.tgz /etc/apt/ /var/lib/apt/ /var/cache/apt/
[08:14] <nalioth> Dreamglider: /var/cache/apt/archive
[08:14] <ompaul> thompa, please message the bot for yourself, if your telling others then letting them undstand that the bot is telling them for a reason is god
[08:14] <dvhart> the ubuntu hoary openbox package claims xinerama support, but wasn't built with libxinerama support.  I downloaded the source and built with libxinerama-dev and installed that deb, and now it works correctly.  The listed package maintainer is the debian guy (who does his builds with libxinerama for debian), and he said to bug the ubuntu guys.
[08:14] <hussam> Dreamglider: that should archive the downloaded updates
[08:14] <anethema> !faq
[08:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[08:14] <ompaul> s/god/good/
[08:14] <BOB1234> ndiswrapper - command not found
[08:15] <thesilentkiller> naoliths_dog: whatsup
[08:15] <dvhart> so is this the right forum, or should I submit a bug?
[08:15] <MaTaks> how can i play my mp3 files on linux
[08:15] <BOB1234> ompaul ndiswrapper doesnt exist
[08:15] <Dreamglider> MaTaks, use xmms
[08:15] <MaTaks> is it already in ubuntu?
[08:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell MaTaks about mp3
[08:15] <thompa> ompaul: just seeing how it works.
[08:16] <Dreamglider> i dont think so
[08:16] <thompa> are you saying we should never !?
[08:16] <dvhart> MadpilotPPC, rhythmbox,muine,mpg123,xmms,etc etc etc
[08:16] <dvhart> MaTaks,, rhythmbox,muine,mpg123,xmms,etc etc etc
[08:16] <dvhart> MadpilotPPC, sorry... stupid autocomplete :-)
[08:16] <MaTaks> ok thnx man
[08:17] <dvhart> MaTaks, aptitude search music; aptitude search mp3;
[08:17] <Dreamglider> wait, yes it's on the cd you can add the program by going to System > Administration > Add Apps
[08:17] <paul_lost> someone give a quick explanation what ndiswrapper is and how to do it?
[08:17] <ompaul> BOB1234,  ndiswrapper-utils ndisgtk
[08:17] <Cryptid> nalioth, i tried the realplayer directory u mentioned but it didnt work please try it on ur computer and tell me where exactly does the realplayer installer gets downloaded
[08:17] <s3[mn] rain> Is it just me, or does Konqueror's web page rendering really suck? Take www.newegg.com for example....
[08:17] <ompaul> thompa, :)
[08:18] <nalioth> Cryptid: if you dont tell it one of those directories, it wont work
[08:18] <thompa> ompaul: are you using kde by any chance?
[08:18] <HappyFool> paul_lost: i think it lets you use (some?) MS Windows wireless network drivers on linux
[08:19] <HappyFool> !tell paul_lost about ndiswrapper
[08:19] <BOB1234> ompaul : "ndiswrapper-utils      command not found"
[08:19] <Cryptid> nalioth, i tired those dir but it didnt work it says that the installer is present or it is corrupted i also tried searching for that file but i wsa unable to fint the file
[08:19] <HappyFool> paul_lost: that wiki page should tell you more
[08:19] <ompaul> BOB1234, install it :) it is in main so it should work from the off
[08:19] <ompaul> thompa, no I do not do that
[08:19] <Dreamglider> MaTaks, you should see it under Video & Sound > Other programms if i remember correct
[08:20] <thompa> ompaul: ok nevermind. gnome seems to work fine
[08:20] <MaTaks> in my sound and video i dont have any mp3 player
[08:20] <shedi> BOB1234, apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[08:20] <MaTaks> only cd and music player
[08:20] <vbgunz_> someone proficient in Mozilla Thunderbird please help me, please. I only need to convert 5 Windows paths to Ubuntu paths, please help, this is my one and only major obstacle in migrating over to Ubuntu with ease. please help!
[08:20] <ompaul> thompa, if you want to install it apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or do it from syanptic
[08:20] <nalioth> Cryptid: https://helixcommunity.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=154
[08:20] <mathieu15457> il ya des fran?ais ?
[08:20] <NoUse> MaTaks Music player places mp3s
[08:20] <NoUse> !tell MaTaks about mp3
[08:20] <nalioth> !fr
[08:20] <ubotu> [fr]  Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:21] <mathieu15457> merci
[08:21] <thompa> ompaul: im a little afraid too, since everything is working. just miss kdelook backgrounds and stuff
[08:21] <ompaul> thompa, well there is gnome-look the same only better :-))))))
[08:21] <vbgunz_> anyone using Thunderbird with the time to answer just 5 questions in regards to path mapping, it will be greatly appreciated, please help
[08:21] <shedi> vbgunz_, are you asking about the profiles
[08:22] <nalioth> vbgunz_: you know the rules here. ASK your question
[08:22] <thompa> ompaul: ok, did not know thanks
[08:22] <vbgunz_> shedi, yes, I need to change paths in Thunderbird from C:\etc to map to Linux
[08:22] <thompa> never used gnome in my life
[08:22] <vbgunz_> nalioth, thank you
[08:22] <dallingham> Has anybody had any success is getting the Alps Glidepoint working under the 2.6.12 kernel? I can't seem to turn off the tap.
[08:22] <vbgunz_> "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator" what is the Ubuntu equivalent?
[08:22] <paul_lost> i got permission denied when i tried to apt-get ndiswrapper... why?
[08:22] <shedi> vbgunz_, are you doing dual boot?
[08:22] <ompaul> vbgunz_, if the questions were posted in the channel you might get answers if you have a long question maybe pastebin where the paths could be shown after the question and then your life could be easier
[08:23] <nalioth> vbgunz_: look in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[08:23] <ompaul> vbgunz_, this is not Windows - there is no equivalent
[08:23] <Cryptid> nalioth, thanx for the link, now which file do i download the .rpm file and convert it using alient or do i download the the .bin file or .tar.bz2
[08:23] <vbgunz_> shedi, yes at tthe moment I am *but* I really fell in love with Ubuntu and wish to start really using it more than Windows... mostly everything I do in Windows I can now do in Ubuntu... I am loving it
[08:23] <nalioth> vbgunz_: all your setttings are there
[08:23] <shedi> vbgunz_,  you can't have your mail dir in a ntfs partition
[08:23] <nalioth> Cryptid: the bin, for easyness
[08:23] <shedi> vbgunz_, you need to be able to write to the mail boxes
[08:24] <Cryptid> nalioth now do i install the .bin files
[08:24] <Cryptid> nalioth, i never tried installing using .bin files so i dont know
[08:24] <nalioth> Cryptid: chmod +x file.bin  and then ./file.bin
[08:24] <ompaul> vbgunz_, there is the alternative path, the one that works in Linux, say what fle you want and away you go
[08:24] <shedi> vbgunz_, use of ntfs write support isn't suggested
[08:24] <joe__> hello everyone
[08:24] <ompaul> hey joe__
[08:25] <shedi> vbgunz_,  this can be done if your mailboxes are on a fat32 partiton
[08:25] <paul_lost> umm still 13 permission denied when i try to apt- get ndiswrapper
[08:25] <Knowerrors> gday yall
[08:25] <joe__> Gnome isn't starting for me, i can only get into xchat by doing a failsafe terminal, even failsafe gnome doesn't work!
[08:25] <nalioth> Cryptid: you'll want to install the plugin(s) into /usr/local/lib/mozilla/plugins or ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[08:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell paul_lost about sources
[08:25] <BOB1234> umm ompaul I installed ndiswrapper-utils from the cd offline mode...and the command ndiswrapper works now..but ndiswrapper-utils command not found
[08:25] <HappyFool> paul_lost: try 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper'
[08:25] <vbgunz_> shedi, maybe you misunderstood... I am sorry, I do not wish to access my mail on a NTFS drive. I wish to migrate my profile from NTFS to Ubuntu on EXT3. I wish to access my mail and profile locally...
[08:26] <nalioth> vbgunz_: your profile is in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[08:26] <Cryptid> chmod +x helixplayer.bin and then next line should be ./helixplayer.bin * are the plugins installed automatically or do i have to download them seperatly
[08:26] <nalioth> vbgunz_: you can copy your profile from windows if you like to gamble
[08:26] <vbgunz_> *but* I need to migrate my Windows profile to Ubuntu... so don't I need to change the paths from Windows paths to Linux paths?
[08:26] <nalioth> Cryptid: the bin file installs the plugins
[08:27] <ompaul> !tell BOB1234 about ndiswrapper
[08:27] <BOB1234> anyway now that Ive got it what command do i put in with ndiswrapper to make it DETECT my wireless connetion
[08:27] <nalioth> vbgunz_: you are confusing me
[08:27] <ompaul> BOB1234, that little message from the bot should help you
[08:27] <joe__> bye
[08:27] <paul_lost> couldnt find package...
[08:27] <rnasklaved> Does anybody know how I can startup in commandline with ubuntu installed?
[08:27] <joe__> you can install a server installation, or hit ctrl_shift_f1
[08:28] <Cryptid> nalioth, during the installationprocess does it give me a option of installing the plugins into the mozilla direcoty???
[08:28] <shedi> vbgunz_, you need to copy the whole damn thing to ubuntu if you intend to use it from the system
[08:28] <vbgunz_> on Windows, you cannot easily move a Mozilla firefox or thunderbird profile from one directory to another... you'll destroy it... But I have replacing paths down to a science so I know how to move profiles on Windows with ease... I assume I cannot just drag and drop my Windows thunderbord profile onto Ubuntu *because* the Linux paths will not be there *only* windows paths... *so*  i am trying to *replace* all my Windows paths with the L
[08:28] <Knowerrors> Is there a way to download ubuntu packages on a windows machine to burn on cd and use to update?  Im stuck on modem at home, and need to use broadband at school to update
[08:28] <nalioth> Cryptid: it should
[08:28] <shedi> vbgunz_, as far as I know
[08:28] <Lars_G> I've done something pretty stupid, seeminlgy unharmfull, please help me.
[08:28] <HappyFool> Knowerrors: you can check out apt-zip
[08:29] <vbgunz_> anyone get the idea?
[08:29] <nalioth> vbgunz_: your profile is your profile for mozilla stuff
[08:29] <Knowerrors> HappyFool: Ive heard of that... but will it work under windows?
[08:29] <HappyFool> Lars_G: if you tell us, maybe we can help
[08:29] <Lars_G> Basically I plugged in an USB HDD, and I wrongly did a: "mount /dev/sda1 /"
[08:29] <HappyFool> Knowerrors: i don't know
[08:29] <Lars_G> Now I have TWO mounts as root
[08:29] <Lars_G> and I can't umount the second one (even using the original device) because it's of course "in use"
[08:30] <Lars_G> sigh
[08:30] <cevizoglu> Lars_G, do a umount /dev/sda1 and try again
[08:30] <Knowerrors> are the ubuntu repos available to download as isos?  some kind of extras cds or something?
[08:30] <Lars_G> cevizoglu: Nyet
[08:30] <paul_lost> i have allready added repositories and it still cant find ndiswrapper
[08:30] <vbgunz_> what are the following equivalents, a little help is appreciated.... "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator" AND "C:\\Documents and Settings\\Administrator" AND "C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\ADMINISTRATOR" AND "C:\\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\\ADMINISTRATOR" AND "C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator"
[08:30] <ssam> here an interesting problem, i have just upgraded a via epia mini itx computer to breezy, and the boot is hanging on "checking battery state", there is no battery, ctrl+c does nothing,  any ideas?
[08:30] <egoleo> zai jian
[08:30] <nalioth> vbgunz_: the contents of c:/Documents and settings/vbgunz/Applications data/mozilla thunderbird  are the saem as the ones you'll find in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/random.bleh/
[08:30] <Lars_G> vbgunz_: /home/<username>
[08:30] <Lars_G> vbgunz_: and for root: /root
[08:30] <nalioth> vbgunz_: you are not listening to me
[08:31] <HappyFool> Lars_G: you mounted a usb disk at / ?
[08:31] <Lars_G> nalioth: No, he seems not to be.
[08:31] <vbgunz_> Lars_G: thank you, nalioth, sorry, say again :(
[08:31] <Lars_G> HappyFool: Yep. let's say I was "enter happy" :(
[08:31] <nalioth> vbgunz_: scroll up and look for your nick
[08:31] <Fraeon> So what happens when you unmount the thing? ;>
[08:31] <Lars_G> vbgunz_: Btw posting different ways of writting the same is spam and not usefull.
[08:32] <HappyFool> Lars_G: i may be wrong, but you probably can't unmount, since umount is on the other mount. not to mention libc, ld.so etc. etc.
[08:32] <shedi> vbgunz_,  you can't just set the profile path to a mailbox located on a ntfs partiton
[08:32] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[08:32] <cevizoglu> Lars_G, no, actually spam is unsolicited email
[08:32] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need configure my init.d scripts 8(
[08:32] <Lars_G> Happu: I can still read my whole directory it's very odd. and umount works, but of course it reports the disk is in use...
[08:32] <vbgunz_> oh my god, I don't thuink anyone understands *but* I have been trying my best to explain the situation...
[08:32] <shedi> vbgunz_,  I mean you can, but it will be a disaster when thunderbird wants to write to the mailbox
[08:32] <HappyFool> Lars_G: what does 'mount' say?
[08:32] <BOB1234> ompaul I get a NUMBER of errors from trying that guide
[08:32] <nalioth> vbgunz_: copy your thunderbird profile from your windows and zip it up
[08:33] <vbgunz_> shedi, I understand I can't map to NTFS. I need to migrate from NTFS to Ubuntu ext3...
[08:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> i remember that put a script in /etc/init.d dont work after reboot.... what is the better way to do that.
[08:33] <BOB1234> ompaul - cannot install foobar location not found
[08:33] <Lars_G> vbgunz_: We understand, it's just you're too thick to realize people is trying to help you. yes?
[08:33] <nalioth> vbgunz_: unzip this folder into ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[08:33] <rnasklaved> how can I login my system in commandline (without gnome or other GUI)
[08:33] <funkyHat> i keep getting 'the query for ... failed.' 'the likely cause is that the beagle daemon isn't running.'
[08:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> I need put a firewall script in init.d
[08:33] <shedi> vbgunz_,  so, copy the damn thing :)
[08:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[08:33] <nalioth> vbgunz_: i dont know how else to explain it
[08:33] <funkyHat> how can i make the beagle daemon run all the time?
[08:33] <Jhair> Aragorn_Guardian: you need a link to the pertinent runlevel
[08:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> hum...
[08:33] <ompaul> BOB1234, paste them in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:33] <BOB1234> ompaul - and the modprobe command gives me another error - cannot acess permission denied
[08:34] <vbgunz_> nalioth, im sorry, I had so many problems with mozilla profiles and just really don't expect to simply drag and rop will be the answer *but* if it works that would just be amazing
[08:34] <BOB1234> I cant im typing this from another comp on WIndows xp
[08:34] <Jhair> Aragorn_Guardian: a link from the runlevel to the script on /etc/init.d no?
[08:34] <BOB1234> ompaul I cant typing this from another comp
[08:34] <Lars_G> HappyFool: http://pastebin.com/38417
[08:34] <Aragorn_Guardian> if is a different way, in reboot it clean my script, right...
[08:34] <HappyFool> paul_lost: read this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:34] <nalioth> vbgunz_: mozilla is open source
[08:34] <Lars_G> vbgunz_: I am seconds away from getting very very aggresive. for your safety and my own, I will place you on ignore.
[08:34] <HappyFool> paul_lost: there is no 'ndiswrapper' package
[08:34] <nalioth> vbgunz_: it is designed to work the same under many differnt OS's
[08:34] <Aragorn_Guardian> Jhair:  thanks...gonna put in the right place and make the link...
[08:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> Jhair:  in case of a firewall, what will be better runlevels to put it?
[08:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> 3 and 4, is that?
[08:35] <HappyFool> Lars_G: i presume that should be http://pastebin.com/384172 ?
[08:35] <paul_lost> thanks happy fool i am new to irc so i didnt realise i had private messages i am not too bright
[08:35] <paul_lost> lets see hoiw it goes
[08:35] <Jhair> Aragorn_Guardian: I am not quite sure sorry, I guess the runlevel the machine uses most of the time :)
[08:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks... gonna try
[08:35] <Lars_G> HappyFool: Yes sorry, I missed the last char.
[08:35] <HappyFool> paul_lost: no problem
[08:35] <vbgunz_> Lars_G you can do that *but* you might never understand what i am saying, I am not *stupid* *but* don't know how Linux will handle *finding* Windows paths in my Thunderbird profile, thats my fear...
[08:36] <crov> nalioth, i dont get anything when i write "apt-cache search centericq" only new prompt for command, and. how to enable "Universe" in repository...
[08:36] <ompaul> BOB1234, sorry, catch 22
[08:36] <BOB1234> ompaul whats catch 22
[08:36] <nalioth> vbgunz_: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[08:37] <Lars_G> crov: a) that means there is no match for that program in your current repositories. b) use synaptic and enable it under repositories, or edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the line that says "universe" at the end.
[08:37] <TiMiDo> hey people
[08:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell crov about sources
[08:37] <Lars_G> nalioth: He's still at it?
[08:37] <HappyFool> Lars_G: sorry, i don't get how this double mount thing works. my impression was the later mount would shadow the earlier one, but that is obviously not true if you can still run umount.
[08:37] <ompaul> BOB1234, a book, the theme is you can't leave the army unless your mad, only a sane person would try to leave the army
[08:37] <ompaul> BOB1234, so you don't get to leave
[08:37] <Jhair> Aragorn_Guardian: please note that there is the update-rc.d utility to put te links, take a look to its manpage
[08:37] <vbgunz_> ok, I'll try the drag and drop, *but* don't expect it to work, I hope you all understand I wasn't being thick headed...
[08:38] <Lars_G> HappyFool: I agree I tought it should shadow the previous mount.... but... I'll keep trying, otherwise, I'll reboot.
[08:38] <BOB1234> ompaul umm ok...well do u have any other ideas because im typingthe stuff on that page and having troubles
[08:38] <HappyFool> Lars_G: yeah, just reboot ;)
[08:38] <Shin_Gouki> Gwildor, chat?
[08:38] <Lars_G> HappyFool: nah, no fun in that
[08:38] <crov> Lars_G, thnx editing /etc/apt/sources.list is easy :))
[08:38] <BOB1234> ompaul I was able to get ndiswrapper...just not sure how to use it yet in the networking
[08:39] <Cryptid> nalioth, hxplayer is asking me the directory where the player should be installed [/home/melchey/HelixPlayer]  will this direcory do
[08:39] <Lars_G> HappyFool: I wonder what device it will write to if I perform a write op..... youch.
[08:39] <Lars_G> crov: As always, use caution when doing so. :)
[08:39] <ompaul> BOB1234, have a look at the message from ubotu it is step by step
[08:39] <Knowerrors> HappyFool: are any of the ubuntu repos available as iso downloads, like extras cds?
[08:39] <nalioth> Cryptid: the player can go anywhere, the plugins need to go where i told you earlier
[08:39] <Lars_G> crov: and be sure to uncomment the line beginnign with "deb" not the one with "deb-src"
[08:39] <HappyFool> Knowerrors: well, you can always mirror the repository
[08:39] <dallingham> Can anyone help with a touchpad problem?
[08:39] <HappyFool> Knowerrors: or download the DVD iso -- i think it has most of the 'main' repository
[08:39] <nalioth> Lars_G: deb-src are harmless, and sometimes beneficial
[08:40] <Cryptid> nalioth hxplayer got installed and it didnt ask me for the plugins stuff
[08:40] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, my USB prob seems hard!
[08:40] <Knowerrors> HappyFool: so dvd doesn't have universe/multiverse then?
[08:40] <Cryptid> nailoth what do i do now
[08:40] <BOB1234> ompaul - ...all ubotu told me a little bit about ndiswrapper then gave me that link
[08:40] <Lars_G> nalioth: I don't say they're harmless, but if he uncomments only the deb-src he will continue to have troubles, and wonder why.
[08:40] <nalioth> Cryptid: hang on
[08:40] <HappyFool> Knowerrors: um. i don't think so
[08:40] <Lars_G> nalioth: Sorry if I gave the impression they were dangerous.
[08:40] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, gwildor is trin hard still no result, but its nice to chat with him :)
[08:40] <cevizoglu> !tell dallingham about anyone
[08:40] <bluefoxicy> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816118015  Anyone think this is any good?
[08:40] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, dont stress urself to much here in main channel :=)
[08:41] <bluefoxicy> I want a sub-$300 good quality raid 5 card with 4 sata
[08:41] <HappyFool> Knowerrors: i would check out apt-zip; maybe you can get the script to work on cygwin on windows (assuming you need to use windows on your fast connection)
[08:41] <bluefoxicy> linux windows BSD
[08:41] <Lars_G> !anyone
[08:41] <ubotu> it has been said that anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[08:41] <tarzeau> bluefoxicy: what about microkernels?
[08:41] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, hello?
[08:41] <Lars_G> hehehe
[08:41] <infernall_work> in a big tarball, is it possible to extract one specific directory through the cli tar command?
[08:41] <Shin_Gouki> Gwildor,  DCC
[08:41] <tarzeau> infernall_work: sure
[08:41] <Lars_G> cevizoglu: You guys should copy the "ask" factoid from javabot as well.
[08:41] <Knowerrors> HappyFool: I do need windows on the broadband comp, will read up on aptzip
[08:41] <infernall_work> tarzeau, i've been reading the cli help, but its not clear to me
[08:41] <cevizoglu> Lars_G, it's here
[08:41] <bluefoxicy> tarzeau:  *shrug*  I'm looking for something to put in my mid-level PCs
[08:42] <Lars_G> great
[08:42] <crov> Lars_G, why to use with caution (is it betther when install my package to comment), ok only deb not deb-src is uncommented
[08:42] <Lars_G> !ask
[08:42] <nalioth> Cryptid: i am sorry. but i'm lost on real player and it's codecs
[08:42] <tarzeau> infernall_work: a directory is a file
[08:42] <tarzeau> infernall_work: hint enough?
[08:42] <nalioth> Cryptid: i'm hopin the helix player works for you
[08:42] <tarzeau> bluefoxicy: debian?
[08:42] <bluefoxicy> tarzeau: I should be able to construct a PC with Athlon 64, 1G RAM, and 1.2TB available storage RAID-5 for under $1500, and sell it for $1500
[08:42] <dallingham> I cannot seem to turn off the tap to click with an Alps glidepoint.
[08:42] <infernall_work> tarzeau, -K ?
[08:42] <Lars_G> crov: With caution I mean: it's ok to uncomment deb-src too, just make sure you uncomment a source and not a comment, that you do not delete or comment your current sources, etc. general caution.
[08:42] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, i did
[08:42] <Gwildor> shadeofgrey, accept
[08:42] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, accept
[08:43] <bluefoxicy> tarzeau:  By 2007 I should be able to do Athlon 64 X2, 2G RAM, 1.2TB RAID-5 for under $1000, and sell it for $1000
[08:43] <Cryptid> nalioth, this is what i am getting what do i do for the symbolic code Copying Helix Player files...configure system-wide symbolic links? [Y/n] : ...Y..enter the prefix for symbolic links [/usr] : ..........................
[08:43] <tarzeau> bluefoxicy: i've got no idea, i built my computer out of spare parts and other cheap shit
[08:44] <nalioth> Cryptid: there ya go, the links to make your mozilla stuff work
[08:44] <Cryptid> nalioth ok i installed the player now i dosent open after i click on it
[08:44] <bluefoxicy> ell
[08:45] <Lars_G> HappyFool: It seems reboot will be the only option.
[08:45] <bluefoxicy> I'll just rig one up with a few drives
[08:45] <bluefoxicy> and put Gentoo on it
[08:45] <bluefoxicy> and rebuild 1000 times.
[08:45] <Shin_Gouki> Gwildor,  do u read me in dcc?
[08:45] <BOB1234> can someone tell me how to get ndiswrapper to detect my wireless connection
[08:45] <BOB1234> on hoary
[08:45] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, nope
[08:45] <HappyFool> Lars_G: it could be worse ;)
[08:45] <tarzeau> !seen liberty
[08:45] <ubotu> tarzeau: i haven't seen 'liberty'
[08:45] <tarzeau> crap wrong channel
[08:45] <Lars_G> HappyFool: It could've just failed. whine. lol
[08:45] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, i offered to you
[08:46] <nalioth> Cryptid: go surfing and click on a .ram link
[08:46] <crov> Lars_G, ok update apt-get update but still i can find centericq packages
[08:46] <Shin_Gouki> Gwildor,  let me offer k?
[08:46] <Cryptid> nalioth what happens if i say no to the symbolic code thing
[08:46] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, offer
[08:46] <nalioth> Cryptid: then you dont have any browser support
[08:47] <Cryptid> nalioth please gimme the directory to the mozilla plugin thing again
[08:47] <Shin_Gouki> Gwildor,  i think i did ofter is it pending on ur side?
[08:47] <lon3tree> Jhair
[08:47] <lon3tree> are you still there?
[08:47] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, offer again
[08:47] <nalioth> Cryptid: /usr/local/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[08:47] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, i havent gotten one yet
[08:47] <lon3tree> Jhair
[08:47] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, do this "/msg gwildor say something here"
[08:48] <BOB1234> i typed in ndiswrapper and ... it popped up a few rows of commands IDK wat2 do now plz help
[08:48] <ompaul> BOB1234, so you go through its steps
[08:48] <Gwildor> school jsut let out?
[08:48] <BOB1234> ompaul i Did
[08:48] <BOB1234> i said it no work
[08:48] <BOB1234> foobar.inf file not exist
[08:48] <infernall_work> tarzeau, im trying, but not sure i've got it.  I am using tar -jxpvf apache.tar.bz2 ./var/www/nameofdir
[08:49] <heartEye> I cannot get the Kanji learning program Kiten to run.  I can't get mozilla open to look for help :/
[08:49] <ompaul> BOB1234, that is supposed to be replaced with the windows driver for your card
[08:49] <nalioth> vbgunz: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[08:49] <ompaul> BOB1234, the *.inf if you will
[08:49] <BOB1234> ompaul and how the frizzle do I know what 2 replace foobar with
[08:50] <ompaul> BOB1234, its a windows driver - it will have its own *.inf
[08:50] <BOB1234> ompaul so how do I know that *.inf
[08:50] <Gwildor> BOB1234, it is a .inf file....the driver for your card is a .inf, you must find out what file that is
[08:50] <BOB1234> how
[08:50] <nalioth> BOB1234: look the inf in your windows network properties
[08:51] <HappyFool> or google for your network card
[08:51] <vbgunz> nalioth, you don't understand, you really don't, my question was so simple *but* you probably misunderstood it and now you telling me as soon as I log in to go to another channel? All I asked was what are the equivalent paths.. nothing to special or specific to Mozilla... I cannot transfer my entire profile because of a path problem... I am asking *but* everyone choose to deliberately misunderstand me on purpose or something
[08:51] <BOB1234> soI have to boot into windows :/
[08:51] <Cryptid> nalioth ok i am done with realplayer now i need help on transcode installation i need all the dependency list and trancode setupfile (i need trancode so that i can convert my existing .mpeg and .DAT file to .avi and iwas told that i can also change the resolution of the pic so that i will be able to play the files on my cell phone)
[08:51] <nalioth> vbgunz: read my flapping lips:
[08:51] <ompaul> BOB1234, sorry that is a windows question, I would search google for your type of wifi card drivers and put them on a media that your ubuntu machine can see move them into your home directory and fire away from there
[08:52] <nalioth> vbgunz: ~/.mozilla-thunderbird = C:/documents and settings/vbgunz/application data/mozilla-thunderbird/
[08:52] <ompaul> BOB1234, I am now going for a cup of tea - instructions
[08:52] <BOB1234> wha
[08:52] <HappyFool> ompaul: a brilliant idea! *me gets a cup of tea*
[08:52] <vbgunz> nalioth, thank you, something like that, there are *5* certain paths on Windows which I know I have to change over to *linux* specific paths, you understand now?
[08:53] <nalioth> vbgunz: search your windows partition for the soemcoiw.default in your /mozilla-thunderbird directory
[08:53] <nalioth> vbgunz: copy that eisudj.default directory into your linux ~/.mozilla-thunderbird directory
[08:54] <nalioth> vbgunz: start thunderbird. choose profile
[08:54] <vbgunz> I just did that *but* fear came true... Thunderbird is in a drunken state which leads me to believe it doesn't like the paths
[08:54] <vbgunz> with the -ProfileManager option
[08:55] <nalioth> vbgunz: type "mozilla-thunderbird-config" and choose your profile
[08:55] <vbgunz> ok
[08:57] <imc_> hi, I can't remember where the ms-ttcorefonts are - anyone remember?
[08:57] <paul_lost> ndiswrapper=lifesaver cheers everyone
[08:57] <nalioth> !info msttcorefonts
[08:57] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[08:57] <imc_> thanks nalioth
[08:57] <MaTaks> where can i get xmms?
[08:58] <nalioth> MaTaks: use synaptic
[08:58] <wef> whereis the sshd
[08:58] <MaTaks> its not on my package
[08:58] <crimsun> wef: openssh-server
[08:58] <vbgunz> nalioth, yup, no go, Thunderbird has nothing up but the main interface, menu bar, etc,... can you just walk me through 5 paths, this is how I move paths on Windows and I see it working the same way on Linux is possible, can you just take your time for 5 path equivalents?
[08:58] <crimsun> MaTaks: xmms is in main
[08:58] <vbgunz> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator = /home/vbgunz ?
[08:58] <wef> crimsun, yes
[08:59] <nalioth> vbgunz: yes
[08:59] <vbgunz> nalioth, thank you
[09:00] <vbgunz> C:\\Documents and Settings\\Administrator = //home//vbgunz ?
[09:00] <vbgunz> C:\\Documents and Settings\\Administrator = /home/vbgunz ?
[09:00] <MaTaks> ok i found it
[09:00] <MaTaks> thnx man
[09:00] <vbgunz> just three more, major thanks
[09:02] <Cryptid> while reloding the synaptic repos it shows 3 status it either done failed or HIT wat does HIT mean
[09:02] <vbgunz> would C:\\Documents and Settings\\Administrator equate to /home/vbgunz OR //home//vbgunz (two slashes OR unnecessary?)
[09:03] <nalioth> vbgunz: only one slash
[09:03] <vbgunz> nalioth, thank you
[09:04] <lJlolel> yea, so i installed XFCE and now that works
[09:04] <vbgunz> nalioth, in matter of fact it's pretty much done, I hope it works, will let you know
[09:04] <lJlolel> but when i try to login to gnome, i just see a brown background and nothing else
[09:04] <lJlolel> the mouse is there too
[09:05] <vbgunz> nalioth, just one more question... backslashes do not work on Linux correct?
[09:05] <benplaut> vbgunz: \\\\\\
[09:05] <benplaut> :)
[09:06] <zoot_> hi - anyone here with extensive software raid experience? i've no experience with it and would like to install breezy preview on one disk and then migrate to a 2 disk setup when the second disk is delivered. more info later... any takers?
[09:06] <HappyFool> vbgunz: well, not for separating directories. backslashes are usually used to mark special characters in strings
[09:06] <MaTaks> i have now my xmms but it wont play any mp3 file
[09:06] <MaTaks> why is that
[09:06] <Kris_k> Problem (X-Server is not starting up with fresh install, xorg.0.log error No Screens Found) I have ubuntu 32 bit disc with a MSI k8n Neo4 AMD 3200 64 bit x800 Ati card
[09:06] <HappyFool> MaTaks: set the output plugin to eSound
[09:06] <vbgunz> thanks I hope Mozilla makes migrating profiles easier in the future..., thanks!
[09:07] <wef> THANKS
[09:07] <Secreth`X> does it matters if a partition is NTFS for installing ubuntu?
[09:07] <MaTaks> how?
[09:08] <lJlolel> what is the command for a root terminal?
[09:08] <Vegar> Secreth`X: no, ubuntu will reformat it for you
[09:08] <Secreth`X> Vegar: thanks
[09:08] <HappyFool> MaTaks: stand by
[09:08] <ploum> Hello
[09:08] <ploum> does falconseye work for you ?
[09:08] <ploum> I have only a black screen
[09:08] <ploum> I must kill -9 it
[09:08] <HappyFool> MaTaks: right-click on the xmms window, choose options -> preferences in the menu that appears
[09:08] <MaTaks> ok
[09:09] <MaTaks> wait coz it freeze
[09:09] <HappyFool> MaTaks: the output plugin should be on the window that appears
[09:09] <pepsi> how do i get the parallel port to show up in /dev?
[09:09] <pepsi> parport0 i want
[09:09] <pepsi> ubotu, parallel
[09:10] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, pepsi
[09:10] <pepsi> :(
[09:10] <zoot_> ahem, any software RAID gurus online?
[09:10] <HappyFool> pepsi: make 'sudo MAKEDEV parport' ?
[09:10] <HappyFool> pepsi: that is, maybe 'sudo MAKEDEV parport'
[09:10] <HappyFool> pepsi: in /dev
[09:11] <Kris_k> Problem (X-Server is not starting up with fresh install, xorg.0.log error No Screens Found) I have ubuntu 32 bit disc with a MSI k8n Neo4 AMD 3200 64 bit x800 Ati card
[09:11] <HappyFool> zoot_: one of the raid packages had a nice debian howto for software raid
[09:12] <pepsi> HappyFool, will that survive a reboot?
[09:12] <HappyFool> zoot_: ah, in mdadm
[09:12] <HappyFool> pepsi: err, i don't know
[09:12] <HappyFool> pepsi: i haven't got my head around ubuntu's device creation
[09:12] <zoot_> HappyFool: thx, any clue which raid pkg? .. aha, u answered :)
[09:12] <mwe> sudo echo foo > bar doesn't work. how do I work around that?
[09:12] <HappyFool> pepsi: if not, you can add 'MAKEDEV parport' in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[09:13] <HappyFool> mwe: i think 'echo foo|sudo tee bar' might work
[09:13] <mwe> thanks
[09:13] <lJlolel> All of the gnome programs are screwed up
[09:13] <lJlolel> I'm forced to use XFCE, but none of the gnome programs work anyway
[09:13] <pepsi> HappyFool, ok.. i might.. seems like every other time i update my system, the parport breaks
[09:13] <HappyFool> zoot_: in /usr/share/doc/mdadm/rootraiddoc.97.html -- i've read it, but haven't used it (!). I hope it helps
[09:14] <pepsi> HappyFool, any idea how i can get my 4-port serial card to show up as ttyS2..ttyS5?.. right now it uses ttyS14, 15, 44, and 45
[09:14] <pepsi> :)
[09:14] <zoot_> HappFool: thx
[09:15] <HappyFool> pepsi: um. you can use the 'mknod' command to make arbitrary filenames map to specific devices (devices are associated with major,minor number pairs)
[09:16] <Knorrie> does anyone have experience using xdf formatted floppies with dosemu?
[09:16] <Knorrie> i'm trying to install pc dos 7 :)
[09:16] <zoot_> HappyFool: haven't installed ubuntu yet, but found it on https://alioth.debian.org/projects/rootraiddoc/ - time to start reading :)
[09:17] <HappyFool> pepsi: read 'man mknod' and maybe some of the linux kernel docs. i think the hotplug system might help you too ('man hotplug'), but i'm not sure
[09:17] <_jason> If I have java 1.5.0_04 installed and would like to install 1.5.0_05.  Does anyone know if I need to remove the old java package first?
[09:17] <pepsi> HappyFool, yeah, i have to figure something out.. every time i boot up i have to use setserial to setup the serial ports correctly and then make /dev/COM1..6 since the ttyS numbering is wierd
[09:18] <pepsi> blah :)
[09:18] <HappyFool> pepsi: youn can't you adapt your software to use the linux (or ubuntu) naming?
[09:18] <pepsi> i frequently type them by hand
[09:19] <HappyFool> ah
[09:19] <daejavu> hi to all ..
[09:19] <pepsi> so haveing them numbered in order would be nice
[09:19] <pepsi> hard to remember that ttyS15 is #3 :)
[09:19] <pepsi> er thats #4.. see?
[09:19] <tristanmike> lol
[09:19] <daejavu> has anyone built CEDEGA  from the cvs (free)  file ?
[09:19] <HappyFool> pepsi: yeah, fair enough
[09:20] <HappyFool> pepsi: why do you need so many com ports?
[09:20] <pepsi> embedded development
[09:20] <GoClick> My install seems to have randomly forgotten what resolution to run, it's running 640, but that's not in the xorg.conf file, I've rebooted etc is there a way I can get it to re-poll the screen and fix this?
[09:20] <pepsi> debugging, programming
[09:20] <daejavu> has anyone built CEDEGA  from the cvs (free)  file ?
[09:21] <HappyFool> pepsi: cool. played with real-time linux at all?
[09:21] <pepsi> nope
[09:21] <tarzeau> daejavu: yes
[09:21] <lJlolel> GoClick, ctrl_alt_backspace?
[09:21] <Kris_k> Problem (X-Server is not starting up with fresh install, xorg.0.log error No Screens Found) I have ubuntu 32 bit disc with a MSI k8n Neo4 AMD 3200 64 bit x800 Ati card
[09:22] <din> GoClick: ctrl + alt + numpad +or- should change the res
[09:22] <HappyFool> GoClick: maybe 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:22] <tristanmike> Kris_k, you need the AMD 64 bit edition
[09:22] <GDorn> why, oh, why, did I upgrade to the k7 kernel?  and why, oh why, didn't the dependencies of apt-get fail to realize this and just keep installing incompatible packages (for -386) instead of the right ones?
[09:22] <GoClick> din it's not seeing the config or something
[09:22] <Kris_k> tristanmike i tried both the 64 bit and the 32 bit they both say the same thing
[09:22] <GoClick> lJlolel I've done that, rebooted too
[09:22] <GDorn> (er, they _did_ fail to realize this.  apt-get installed old, incorrect kernel modules, and I'm still cleaning up after it.)
[09:23] <lJlolel> oh wait, i just had that problem i didnt' know what was wrong, I just put in a different video card
[09:23] <lJlolel> and reconfigured again
[09:23] <HappyFool> GDorn: did you install 'linux-k7' or something else?
[09:23] <Cryptid> nalioth ok i am done with realplayer now i need help on transcode installation i need all the dependency list and trancode setupfile (i need trancode so that i can convert my existing .mpeg and .DAT file to .avi and iwas told that i can also change the resolution of the pic so that i will be able to play the files on my cell phone)
[09:23] <GDorn> happyfool:  I'm pretty sure I installed linux-k7.  it was last night, and it's a little hazy with all the frustration and rage I was feeling at the time.
[09:24] <HappyFool> GDorn: heh. try 'dpkg -l linux-k7' -- should tell you. anyway, that should create dependencies for the appropriate packages (i.e., linux-image-k7 and linux-restricted-modules-k7)
[09:25] <HappyFool> GDorn: maybe 'aptitude purge linux-386' or something similar to remove the old kernel ?
[09:25] <misterdiff> man i need help. i'm having so much trouble installing the ubuntu base system
[09:25] <lJlolel> Okay, Gnome and all gnome programs are fucked up and dont run on my computer, how do i fix this?
[09:25] <misterdiff> i have an amd 64 x2 and the amd64 install cd doesn't recognize a kernel for it
[09:25] <GDorn> happyfool:  ah, that would have been helpful last night.  it still may be the thing I need to do to get sound working.  I mostly spent the evening trying to get nvidia.ko wedged into the kernel properly.
[09:25] <lJlolel> running breezy preview release
[09:26] <GDorn> happyfool:  actually, rm -rf did the purging for me...  :)
[09:26] <HappyFool> GDorn: hmm. i'm still running -386 on my athlon ;) i'm not brave enough to upgrade
[09:26] <misterdiff> if i run the install cd of the x86 version, will it  actually install?
[09:26] <ScatterBrain> Anyone having trouble with Firefox 1.0.7??  I've had it lock my machine up twice today.
[09:26] <benplaut> anyone know how to change the usplash theme?
[09:26] <tristanmike> Kris_k, can you get to a command prompt?
[09:26] <daejavu> has anyone built CEDEGA  from the cvs (free)  file ?
[09:26] <GDorn> happyfool:  well, everything screwed up badly when I went from hoary to breezy anyway, so I figured, why not?
[09:27] <gratuit> ok, I just changed from debian to ubuntu, and I have a .evolution file in my home directory from my old install, but every time I start evolution, I get the first start wizard, is there any way I can make it just use the old settings I had before?
[09:27] <GDorn> happyfool:  now if I could just get mplayer to stop drawing windows split between my two monitors...
[09:27] <Cryptid> Does any bodyhave Trancoder isntalled and working
[09:27] <Cryptid> ?????
[09:27] <ompaul> BOB1234, do you want to take this private, I am  now back for a while
[09:27] <Kris_k> tristanmike: Yes
[09:28] <Cryptid> daejavu, do u want cedega
[09:28] <HappyFool> misterdiff: 32-bit version should work -- you can try with the live cd first (assuming you have lots of bandwidth ;)
[09:28] <Mars__^> Hi
[09:28] <TiMiDo> Mars__^, hello
[09:28] <tristanmike> Kris_k, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:28] <Cryptid> daejavu, do u want cedega the full version i can give it to U u dont need to compile stuff and get it
[09:28] <HappyFool> misterdiff: also, if you are trying ubuntu 5.10, try 5.04 instead; 5.10 is still in beta
[09:28] <Kris_k> tristanmike: Tried that already
[09:28] <Mars__^> i have question, how to mount mnt (i need it to see win partition) i am noob and i dont know hoew to do this)
[09:28] <tristanmike> Kris_k, d'oh
[09:29] <gratuit> Mars__^: check in /media and see if it is there
[09:29] <HappyFool> !tell Mars__^ about windowsdrives
[09:29] <zpierreski> Hi guys, what's a apt-get mirror that's carrying sun-j2re--I need it for azureus to start workin'
[09:29] <daejavu> Cryptid, umm ur talking abt the free one ?
[09:29] <gratuit> what is the bots name?
[09:29] <TiMiDo> zpierreski, apt-setup
[09:29] <HappyFool> ubotu
[09:29] <wokick> After dist-upgrade to breezy, can't get DRI for my graphics card. :( Read all relatd posts on ubuntu forums and each related page by google, can't get the answer. :(
[09:30] <tristanmike> zpierreski, if you're getting it from scratch best is to use the method on the wiki, that way you get newest version
[09:30] <_jason> zpierreski:  hoary or breezy?
[09:30] <daejavu> Cryptid, Sure !!  thatll get me games working then :D
[09:30] <wokick> Anyone can help?
[09:30] <mylastmorning> ...
[09:30] <tristanmike> _jason, he's gone :)
[09:30] <Cryptid> daejavu, goto www.torrentspy.com and serach for cedega u will get it cedega is surely better than wine are u using it for games
[09:30] <_jason> tristanmike:  I'm too slow D:
[09:31] <mylastmorning> nalioth what were you asking of me?
[09:31] <Cryptid> daejavu, but point2play wont work as u need a 5$ subscription
[09:31] <Mars__^> gratuit, no. i have mnt, but someone told me to mount it and i dont know how to do this
[09:31] <mylastmorning> hi zpierreski.
[09:31] <HappyFool> Mars__^: read the msg ubotu sent you
[09:31] <daejavu> Cryptid, but how will that work without point2play ?
[09:31] <mvhenten> Hello, all, I just installed ubuntu, I like it, but where's gcc? what's the ubuntu way of installing it?
[09:31] <zpierreski> hey, I just used apt-get to get the java-package
[09:32] <gratuit> come one guys, it's only $15 for cedega, and they are doing a good job at helping us play games on linux, why not just shell out the (Small amount of) cash and help future development?
[09:32] <nalioth> mylastmorning: #ubuntu-unregged is a bot trap. the longer you are in there, the more likely you are of getting banned from frenode
[09:32] <HappyFool> mvhenten: install the 'build-essential' package
[09:32] <nicN> ho
[09:32] <tristanmike> Kris_k, sorry, can't come up with anything else, someone else should be able to help :)
[09:32] <Mars__^> HappyFool, thanks
[09:32] <Kris_k> :(
[09:32] <nicN> jemand hier der deutsch spricht?
[09:32] <TiMiDo> damn it sucks when u need to shaved,
[09:32] <nalioth> !de
[09:32] <ubotu> it has been said that de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[09:32] <mvhenten> is that findable in some menu somewhere? Im fairly new to gui kind of stuff
[09:32] <Cryptid> it will work p2p is only for handling ur games using nice gui without p2p u can still u cedega and install games
[09:32] <banan> hello
[09:32] <TiMiDo> banan, hello
[09:32] <TiMiDo> hey mr nalioth
[09:32] <banan> :-)
[09:33] <HappyFool> mvhenten: look in synaptic
[09:33] <nalioth> nicN: sprechen sie im #ubuntu-de, bitte
[09:33] <nalioth> TiMiDo: howdy
[09:33] <Kris_k> Problem (X-Server is not starting up with fresh install, xorg.0.log error No Screens Found) I have ubuntu 32 bit disc (and tried the 64 bit disc same prob) with a MSI k8n Neo4 AMD 3200 64 bit x800 Ati card - A;ready Ran xorg config and that didnt help ??
[09:33] <HappyFool> mvhenten: system -> administration -> synaptic
[09:33] <TiMiDo> here here just reading some books nalioth and you're self?
[09:33] <TiMiDo> what's going on
[09:33] <daejavu> Cryptid, humm .. lemme give it a try then ... have u tried it ?  i mean without p2p
[09:33] <HappyFool> mvhenten: build-essential is on the ubuntu install CD
[09:33] <Cryptid> nalioth if ur freee will u help[ me now
[09:33] <newtothis> is this ubuntu?
[09:33] <mvhenten> ah, I was looking at 'add applications' :)
[09:33] <zpierreski> I just found an apt-get link that contains sun's java for ubuntu
[09:33] <TiMiDo> newtothis, yes it is why?
[09:33] <cevizoglu> yes, ubuntu
[09:33] <newtothis> i'm new
[09:33] <newtothis> sorry
[09:33] <HappyFool> mvhenten: yeah, that's a slightly simpler interface
[09:33] <TiMiDo> newtothis, wb then to ubuntu
[09:33] <TiMiDo> *welcome
[09:33] <mylastmorning> ...
[09:34] <TiMiDo> ....
[09:34] <newtothis> some guy kicked me off some lobby because i couldn't get here :p
[09:34] <zpierreski> ok, now everything seem's to be working
[09:34] <benplaut> is it possible to get rid of usplash, and replace it with splashy? it's alot more flexible...
[09:34] <banan> is there any chance that libaudiofile.so.0 will be compiled as a PIC library?
[09:34] <TiMiDo> newtothis, who?
[09:34] <newtothis> can't remember
[09:34] <ohphracku> hi in the ubuntu wiki kernelCompileHowto there is a reference to the --stem option for make-kpkg but there is no reference to --stem in the make-kpkg man page.
[09:34] <TiMiDo> banan, 50% yes and 50 % no
[09:34] <MaTaks> i have my xmms install but it wont play any mp3 files
[09:34] <MaTaks> why is that
[09:34] <newtothis> i need help with the termincal
[09:34] <banan> TiMiDo - thanks
[09:34] <mylastmorning> nalioth, how do I get rid of the unregged thing?
[09:34] <HappyFool> MaTaks: did you change the output plugin?
[09:34] <TiMiDo> MaTaks, then you need, to read this
[09:34] <TiMiDo> !tell MaTaks about sound
[09:35] <tristanmike> !tell MaTaks about mp3
[09:35] <TiMiDo> newtothis, you meen terminal?
[09:35] <newtothis> yes
[09:35] <TiMiDo> ok what do you need newtothis ?
[09:35] <MaTaks> HappyFool, : not yet, where is that again?
[09:35] <TiMiDo> how can we help you?
[09:35] <Cryptid> daejavu, yes i did 1 game worked fine for me (rollcage) i use it mostly for windows applications that are not built natively for linux
[09:35] <Cryptid> maTaks, get gstream codecs
[09:35] <HappyFool> MaTaks: *rolls eyes* right click on xmms, options -> preferences
[09:35] <newtothis> to install flash i need to type something into the command line
[09:35] <benplaut> !splashy
[09:35] <ubotu> benplaut: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:35] <benplaut> bleh
[09:35] <TiMiDo> newtothis, sudo apt-cache search flash
[09:35] <MaTaks> ok
[09:35] <wokick> Anyone has experience to get ATI 7500 card fully function under Breezy?
[09:35] <mvhenten> wow I can choose versions here ! what gcc would be nicest?
[09:35] <newtothis> i don't understand
[09:36] <wokick> I can't get DRI work for this card.
[09:36] <daejavu> Cryptid, cool .. then its a must .. if ur online ill let u know what happened :D
[09:36] <HappyFool> mvhenten: just install build-essential ;)
[09:36] <newtothis> how do you get to the command line?
[09:36] <TiMiDo> newtothis, are you in gnome?
[09:36] <MaTaks> errr
[09:36] <newtothis> ubuntu desktop
[09:36] <HappyFool> mvhenten: unless you are highly clueful wrt gcc or need a specific version
[09:36] <TiMiDo> ok
[09:36] <MaTaks> it freeze again
[09:36] <benplaut> wokick: somehwere around ~600 in glxgears, it's working :)
[09:36] <tristanmike> newtothis, Applications->System Tool->Terminal (command line)
[09:36] <TiMiDo> newtothis, click on you're left side of the bar the sign of ubuntu and then you go to  Applications->System Tool- erminal (command line)t
[09:36] <Cryptid> maTaks, also change ur output plugin to eSound output
[09:36] <mvhenten> no, just the going default.
[09:37] <mvhenten> I'll check on my slackware machine
[09:37] <mvhenten> ok 3.3.4 :)
[09:37] <newtothis> thanks i've got that open now
[09:37] <HappyFool> mvhenten: 'build-essential' will install the default
[09:37] <TiMiDo> ok now do this
[09:37] <mvhenten> ok
[09:37] <TiMiDo> sudo apt-cache search flash newtothis
[09:37] <mylastmorning> hmm, how do you get rid of the unregged in IRC?
[09:37] <TiMiDo> did you set up enable the root account newtothis ?
[09:37] <nalioth> mylastmorning: you register your nick
[09:37] <HappyFool> mylastmorning: /msg nickserv help
[09:37] <newtothis> no
[09:37] <r0d> newtothis, use synaptic instead. its easier
[09:38] <mylastmorning> I've already registered nalioth.
[09:38] <TiMiDo> newtothis, do this then sudo -s and put passwd and set a passwd
[09:38] <newtothis> where is synaptic?
[09:38] <nalioth> mylastmorning: what client do you use?
[09:38] <TiMiDo> newtothis, let's go step by step
[09:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell newtothis about synaptic
[09:38] <mylastmorning> nalioth, I use xchat.
[09:38] <TiMiDo> don't get ahead
[09:38] <newtothis> step by step yes
[09:38] <TiMiDo> newtothis^ ok, did u do sudo -s ?
[09:38] <mvhenten> heh, I have seen. nice one!
[09:38] <_jason> mylastmorning:  did you identify yourself?
[09:38] <HappyFool> TiMiDo: setting a root password is not usually recommended
[09:38] <newtothis> yes done
[09:39] <nalioth> mylastmorning: open your server dialog and click on "freenode". in the "server password" box, put your password for your registered nick
[09:39] <mylastmorning> yes _jason
[09:39] <mvhenten> ubuntu is even usable for a slackware-idiot like me :)
[09:39] <newtothis> it says root@ubuntu
[09:39] <TiMiDo> newtothis^ then do this passwd and put a password for you're root account, so don't forget
[09:39] <HappyFool> mvhenten: if you are a slackware veteran, ubuntu should be super-easy
[09:39] <TiMiDo> HappyFool^ is there machines dude, not everyone thinks the same
[09:39] <mvhenten> I think 'sudo su' was the first thing I did after it booted
[09:39] <HappyFool> mvhenten: running joke, 'ubuntu' is an african word for 'those to lazy to configure slackware'
[09:39] <nalioth> Myrtti: you are currently not identified
[09:39] <Prof_Frink> nalioth; mylastmorning: It's the nickserv password you need to set, not server password
[09:39] <newtothis> thats done timido
[09:40] <mvhenten> I still use windowmaker on my laptop
[09:40] <mvhenten> but I thought, why not give it a try
[09:40] <mylastmorning> still unregged....
[09:40] <nalioth> mylastmorning: you are currently not identified
[09:40] <TiMiDo> ok newtothis now do this apt-cache search flash
[09:40] <mvhenten> I've been advising friends for months
[09:40] <HappyFool> TiMiDo: indeed; but you are going contrary to ubuntu considered best practise with someone who is new to linux
[09:40] <admrl_> sorry i needed to restart my computer i think i leave it on too much but i need to get my drive fixed if you missed the question what i asked was why my cd burner wont open after the computer has been on it is /dev/cdrom1 and it is in my fstab and i after the computer has been on for a few hours it wont open anymore and it wont mount so i cant use it can anyone help..?
[09:40] <mvhenten> 'try ubuntu'
[09:40] <Shin_Gouki> hi, how do i enable SVG support for FF under ubuntuu?
[09:40] <mvhenten> :)
[09:40] <mvhenten> now I know what I'm talking about.
[09:40] <mylastmorning> how do I identify myself nalioth, I've got a password.
[09:40] <wokick> svg is not supported yet for ff1.07
[09:40] <newtothis> done
[09:40] <newtothis> libswfdec0.3 - SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder library
[09:40] <newtothis> libswfdec0.3-dev - SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder library
[09:40] <newtothis> konqueror - KDE's advanced File Manager, Web Browser and Document Viewer
[09:40] <Secreth`X> someone expirience with PertitionMagic 8.0?
[09:40] <newtothis> no idea what that means
[09:41] <nalioth> mylastmorning: you are identified now
[09:41] <Secreth`X> partition*
[09:41] <r0d> Secreth`X, yea whats up
[09:41] <mvhenten> wow, that went quick! thanks..
[09:41] <mylastmorning> ok... then why won't the stupid unregged thing go away nalioth?
[09:41] <ohphracku> for make-kpkg, what does the --stem option do? its not documented in the manpage
[09:41] <mylastmorning> :-/
[09:41] <Secreth`X> wel r0d, dunno how but everytime when i reboot he just doesnt what he need to do
[09:41] <nalioth> mylastmorning: you are not in #ubuntu-unregged
[09:41] <TiMiDo> !tell newtothis about doc
[09:41] <mvhenten> Is it terrible if I remove the suid from 'su' ?
[09:41] <davie> evening all
[09:41] <mylastmorning> thats what it says on here nalioth.
[09:41] <HappyFool> mvhenten: would it still work?
[09:41] <mylastmorning> :-/
[09:41] <TiMiDo> newtothis^ i think you should do some reading and some research
[09:41] <mvhenten> yes, but only for root
[09:41] <anethema> !ati
[09:41] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[09:42] <r0d> Secreth`X, ok so what are you trying to do? and when u do it, do you hit apply?
[09:42] <newtothis> i know i need to :D
[09:42] <HappyFool> mvhenten: the ubuntu policy is to use sudo, generally
[09:42] <Cryptid> !doc
[09:42] <Secreth`X> r0d: the error: error 1527: Bad Update Sequence Number
[09:42] <ubotu> [doc]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good doc to read
[09:42] <TiMiDo> newtothis^ star doing that, then
[09:42] <Secreth`X> erm
[09:42] <mvhenten> yes, but sometimes you want to be 'real root'
[09:42] <r0d> Secreth`X, windows xp?
[09:42] <newtothis> thanks for your help anyway
[09:42] <anethema> !faq
[09:42] <Shin_Gouki> hi, how do i enable SVG support for FF under ubuntuu?
[09:42] <ubotu> methinks faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[09:42] <Secreth`X> Im trying to add a partition for linux
[09:42] <Secreth`X> yes windows XP
[09:42] <davie> can anyone help me
[09:42] <TiMiDo> newtothis^ when you get stuck with something let us know
[09:42] <HappyFool> mvhenten: yeah, my point was i don't think you'll break anything (that is a guess though)
[09:42] <TiMiDo> davie^ ask
[09:42] <newtothis> okay bye
[09:42] <TiMiDo> later
[09:42] <harsh32450475849> Hello room
[09:42] <TiMiDo> harsh32450475849^ hello
[09:42] <davie> firefox won't launch - adsl up and running
[09:42] <mvhenten> HappyFool, I don't think either, just asking
[09:42] <Lars_G> !gtk#
[09:42] <TiMiDo> can u open a terminal and run firefox davie ?
[09:42] <ubotu> I don't know, Lars_G
[09:42] <r0d> Secreth`X, so are you taking space from the ntfs partition to make this new partition?
[09:43] <Lars_G> !sharp
[09:43] <ubotu> Lars_G: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:43] <mvhenten> I don't like the idea anyone can do 'sudo su'
[09:43] <Lars_G> !mono
[09:43] <ubotu> well, mono is implementation of .NET framework on linux. It supports winforms partially. For details http://www.go-mono.com
[09:43] <Secreth`X> yes r0d
[09:43] <harsh32450475849> I am a new user working on linux for last 2 months
[09:43] <Lars_G> Is there no Gtk#package in Hoary?
[09:43] <TiMiDo> harsh32450475849^ ok and?
[09:43] <ohphracku> mvhenten, why would you want to be "real root"
[09:43] <r0d> Secreth`X, ok did you do a scan disk error check on the ntfs partition?
[09:43] <harsh32450475849> i have a smartlink modem thats a internal one, i tried to install but it failed
[09:43] <mvhenten> arg, to install the ati drivers
[09:43] <r0d> Secreth`X,  i've had problems because of bad clusters
[09:43] <HappyFool> !tell mvhenten about ati
[09:43] <Secreth`X> yep I did
[09:43] <ohphracku> so reconfigure sudo /etc/sudoers
[09:43] <davie> no - i've just tried to do a synaptic update that returned errors
[09:43] <harsh32450475849> i got help from ub-guide
[09:43] <GDorn> ouch.  isn't porting .net to linux a bit like porting vbs?
[09:43] <TiMiDo> harsh32450475849^ any errors at all? dsl modem 56k be specific please
[09:43] <mvhenten> but real root is also something I don't want other people to have
[09:44] <harsh32450475849> done everything but it gave errors
[09:44] <mvhenten> what is about ati?
[09:44] <Lars_G> mvhenten: You don't comprehend how it works, beleive when you're told it's safer this way
[09:44] <harsh32450475849> 56k yeh
[09:44] <TiMiDo> what modem is it?
[09:44] <HappyFool> mvhenten: wiki instructions for installing ati
[09:44] <harsh32450475849> Smart link
[09:44] <ohphracku> other people dont hace to have sudo privs just dont add the to wheel.
[09:44] <HappyFool> mvhenten: should be easier than by hand
[09:44] <mvhenten> ow, I thought just make the package, and stuff
[09:44] <r0d> Secreth`X, interesting. how many partitions in all do you have. are they are primary? no logicals?
[09:44] <HappyFool> mvhenten: it's up to you of course ;)
[09:44] <davie> eagle usb timido - it's configured ok i think
[09:44] <TiMiDo> give me a second harsh32450475849
[09:44] <ohphracku> *have * them
[09:45] <Secreth`X> iv got only 1
[09:45] <mvhenten> either way is not difficult
[09:45] <Secreth`X> and as far as I know its primary
[09:45] <mvhenten> can't really break anything
[09:45] <TiMiDo> davie^ alright so how come firefox isn't running
[09:45] <harsh32450475849> can i share error that it gave when compiled using the gcc
[09:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell harsh32450475849 about pastebin
[09:45] <mvhenten> look, this box is going to be public accessible for a number of people
[09:45] <r0d> Secreth`X, yea it would be primary if only one
[09:45] <mvhenten> if all of them can do 'sudo su'
[09:45] <mvhenten> then that's dangerous
[09:45] <TiMiDo> harsh32450475849^ http://www.archtek.com/NicDrivers.htm
[09:45] <mvhenten> at leas from my point of view
[09:45] <HappyFool> mvhenten: only the original user can use sudo, by default
[09:45] <Secreth`X> yep r0d it is
[09:45] <r0d> Secreth`X, thats odd to me
[09:45] <mvhenten> ah, ok
[09:45] <nalioth> mvhenten: if you dont give anyone but yourself sudo priveleges, nobody else will be able to use it
[09:45] <ohphracku> dude you need to read the man page
[09:46] <Secreth`X> hehe
[09:46] <ohphracku> for sudo
[09:46] <ohphracku> and sudoers
[09:46] <davie> not sure - there was update for it in the software updates manager that i tried to install
[09:46] <mvhenten> but can I give others the power priveleges? like mounting camera's and stuff?
[09:46] <r0d> Secreth`X, i imagine you've googled for the error
[09:46] <davie> trouble started then
[09:46] <ohphracku> people cant sudo if you configure sudoers its easy
[09:46] <TiMiDo> davie^ when you open up a terminal what do you get when u run firefox?
[09:46] <anethema> weird, glxgears isnt giving me a framerate anymore
[09:46] <GDorn> mvhenten:  sudo only works for people in the adm group.
[09:46] <TiMiDo> and is mozilla-firefox
[09:46] <anethema> just shows gears turning slowly
[09:46] <Secreth`X> err, no I didn't, sorry
[09:46] <mylastmorning> anyone know how to get ares, or kazaa to work?
[09:46] <Secreth`X> I'm looking for 5 hours to split my partition
[09:47] <TiMiDo> harsh32450475849^ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=241853
[09:47] <r0d> Secreth`X, check out their site. symantec is good about documentation
[09:47] <mvhenten> well, I'm gonna allow a number of people in the admin group, but still I don't trust em fully enought to allow 'easy root access' that way
[09:47] <TiMiDo> mylastmorning^ on linux?
[09:47] <Cryptid> mylastmorning, try to use cedega or wine for those programs
[09:47] <harsh32450475849> thanks let me check them
[09:47] <mvhenten> I'll see, and fool around :)
[09:47] <Secreth`X> k, I'll try r0d
[09:47] <davie> nothing happens
[09:47] <TiMiDo> Cryptid^ wine won't run kazaa
[09:47] <TiMiDo> cedega maybe will
[09:47] <TiMiDo> davie^ do this then sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[09:47] <GDorn> mvhenten: if you don't want them to have access to sudo, they should not be in the adm group.  instead, make a group for those people and give them just the rights you want to.
[09:48] <Cryptid> mylastmorning, try getting P2P application made for linux they are better that the 1's made for windows
[09:48] <davie> ok doing now timido
[09:48] <TiMiDo> ok
[09:48] <TiMiDo> brb
[09:49] <r0d> Cryptid, p2p's are mostly dead
[09:49] <Cryptid> mylastmorning, like Limewire(same as windows), Gtk-Gnutella, aMule
[09:49] <r0d> edonkey is bye-bye
[09:49] <Cryptid> r0d, wat u talking man havent u herd of torrents they are also categorised under P2P
[09:49] <davie> Unpacking replacement mozilla-firefox ...
[09:49] <davie> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_ i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:49] <davie>  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is  also in package firefox
[09:49] <davie> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[09:49] <davie> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:49] <ohphracku> sudo is very configureable.
[09:49] <davie>  /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[09:49] <davie> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:50] <ghb> I want to do some changes on my harddrive and DVD-ROM, but as soon as I reboot, the return to default settings. =( How do I make them stick?
[09:50] <Cryptid> r0d, edonkey is dead but u still have other p2p's
[09:50] <harsh32450475849> excuse me, but i am having 32 bit PCI Modem Card and its not USB
[09:50] <r0d> Cryptid, havent heard of torrents considered p2p
[09:50] <ohphracku> ghb, what changes?
[09:50] <ohphracku> hdparm stuff?
[09:50] <harsh32450475849> that thread is for USB i think
[09:50] <Cryptid> r0d, like the fasttrack servers(kazaa and kazaa-lite)
[09:50] <r0d> Cryptid, right those are p2p's
[09:50] <Secreth`X> hell, gotta go
[09:50] <Secreth`X> cya
[09:51] <ghb> ohphracku: Enabling DMA mode and such.
[09:51] <Cryptid> r0d, well torrents are considered as p2p coz they function in that way
[09:51] <ohphracku> /etc/modules.conf this is a known issue see the wiki.
[09:51] <r0d> Cryptid, are there any GOOD p2p server based clients for linux. I basicly dimissed them all together
[09:52] <myNegReal> what size should the swap and boot partitions be?
[09:52] <ohphracku> there is a good thread in the fourums that covers the proper fix for this.
[09:52] <mvhenten> ok the install hint's I have read are mostly for older ubuntu. I don't think it's a real problem if I'll update em now, compile from source against current kernel.
[09:52] <michelp> has anyone tried this gnomemeeting PC To Phone thing?
[09:52] <Cryptid> r0d, yes for full albums u can try nicotine (soulseek {slk} in windows)
[09:52] <mylastmorning> Cryptid, I know I was using apollon, but I hear you can have them connect to the ares and kazaa networks.
[09:52] <mvhenten> It never gave me trouble on slack
[09:53] <ghb> ohphracku: Were you talking about my problem...?
[09:53] <mvhenten> c ya! if I'm back on bitchx it means I won't have X :)
[09:53] <Cryptid> mylastmorning, yes u can download gift plugins for them i guess
[09:53] <myNegReal>  what size should the swap and boot partitions be?
[09:53] <Cryptid> myNegReal i guess 500mb should be good
[09:54] <MorMor> Ho much space does ubuntu use
[09:54] <Cryptid> michelp i havent herd of it is it paid service or something
[09:54] <ohphracku> ghb, yes
[09:54] <myNegReal> k i have a 5GB partition reserved can i partition that 5GB into the 3 partitions in the install or do i need to use another utility
[09:54] <ghb> ohphracku: Okay, I'll check it out.
[09:55] <michelp> Cryptid: yep, if you click on the Phone To PC menu option in gnome-meeting you will b etaken to diamondcard.us
[09:55] <MorMor> How much space does ubuntu requier
[09:55] <ompaul> myNegReal, it is said that 2.5 times the ram for the swap partition, and 100M or greater for /boot which will be only /boot with its own directories
[09:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> in init,  the sequence in rc.d servicer, I inderstood that are the order that they must be executed...but...qhere can i configure a new number to a new script...there is a command for that?
[09:55] <michelp> i'm looking for something like skype and skypeout, but that runs on AMD64
[09:56] <myNegReal> k
[09:56] <Cryptid> michelp skype is available for linux wait i will give u the link if u want
[09:56] <michelp> Cryptid: yes but only 32bit linux.  I'm runing ubuntu AMD64
[09:56] <x3ndou> Hey - I have a PCMCIA card reader; can it be used with ubuntu?
[09:56] <MorMor> How much space does linux requier!
[09:56] <MorMor> Ubuntu
[09:57] <x3ndou> 300 to 1.8gb
[09:57] <MorMor> oki doki
[09:57] <ompaul> myNegReal, given what you have just said I have to suggest that you do just to the following / and swap - though I hate that config myself because it is messy better if you have more room and can allot /home / and swap seperate partitions
[09:57] <michelp> there's no source code for skype because it's not open source, i can't compile it on amd64.  gnome-meeting on the other hand is open source, and there exists a pre-compiled amd64 binary for it
[09:57] <nalioth> myNegReal: if you have 512mb of ram, you can have a 512mb swap
[09:57] <Cryptid> michelp, try seraching on this page it might help u http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories just try it for ur 64bit it might work
[09:57] <robs> I can't start firefox anymore on hoary. any idea ?
[09:57] <michelp> i'd rather use open source software anyway
[09:57] <ompaul> robs, lots of ideas, have you backports enabled?
[09:58] <MorMor> are Ubuntu compatible with most netgear ethernet devices or do you have to get lame drivers?
[09:58] <myNegReal> do i really need a boot parition, last time i installed linux i didn't use it just a swap and /
[09:58] <michelp> fuck skype. and google talk.  anyone who uses those on linux is asking for it and will eventually go to an open source equivalent anyway
[09:58] <ohphracku> ghb, the fix involves just adding the correct modules names to /etc/modules.
[09:58] <robs> ompaul: not atm, but had them in the past
[09:58] <michelp> but that's just my zealot opinion ;)
[09:58] <ompaul> myNegReal, I answered that, your assumption is correct, swap and / will work
[09:59] <myNegReal> k
[09:59] <harsh32450475849> what is the path of kernal i ubuntu
[09:59] <robs> ompaul: I also tried installing the latest hoary version of firefox but I have the same problem (it silently fails)
[09:59] <harsh32450475849> in version 5.04
[10:00] <icewt> michelp, i don't think that there's any open source program that "just works" like skype. some are being developed though
[10:00] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, drop the nice please your hogging so much screen space it ain't funny / is where the kernel lives
[10:00] <okapi> hello
[10:00] <harsh32450475849> ompaul i am a not computer expert, thats why i asked the simple question
[10:00] <michelp> icewt: gnomemeeting
[10:01] <michelp> it just works for me so far, pc to pc
[10:01] <harsh32450475849> if you feel u can't help better dont comment
[10:01] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, I answered that the kernel lives in /
[10:01] <quirky> there's http://www.openwengo.com/ for a GPL'd skype-alike
[10:01] <michelp> and it does video
[10:01] <okapi> Problem: out of disck space! How can I start X server to free some space? Help please
[10:01] <icewt> michelp, but it requires open port(s)?
[10:01] <harsh32450475849> i want the exact URL
[10:01] <beanz> Is a CNAME pointing to another CNAME (which points to an A record) legal?
[10:01] <ohphracku> later....... ;-] 
[10:01] <michelp> icewt: the new version did automatic NAT detection for me, but i'm sure there are some firewalls out there that will foible anything
[10:02] <okapi> Problem: out of disck space! How can I start X server to free some space? Help please
[10:02] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, you asked where the kernel is - kde / gnome don't matter in this issue the >> /  <<  directory is where it lives
[10:02] <Agrajag> what, why do you need to start an X server to free disk space?
[10:02] <eobanb> what does starting x have to do with clearing space
[10:02] <mylastmorning> how can I unload gnome?
[10:02] <ReggyLove> anyone know where i can get a boot floppy that can let me boot from usb flash disks, usb hd's and cd/dvd drives ?
[10:03] <okapi> I am newbie and it easy for me to start KDE or Gnome to free some space...
[10:03] <harsh32450475849> i am having problem regarding installing my modem driver but it shows problem, i suspect i ave not given proper kernal path
[10:03] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how I can run just terminal without gnome?
[10:03] <oxez> hm. Usually when I run the updates for breezy I have to reinstall coreutils, because all basic bash commands (cp, mv etc) are broken (every time). But now, I can't even reinstall coreutils! It tells me chmod is an illegal instruction... is there a guide somewhere that would help me?
[10:03] <MaTaks> !tell mataks mp3
[10:04] <hjack> Apparently sendmail has installed itself and runs on startup.  How do I stop it and remove it from startup?  I am very much a novice here.......
[10:04] <quirky> mylastmorning: use a regular terminal, shift+page up,down to scroll the page
[10:04] <okapi> How can I free disk space from console?
[10:04] <kevin06> Anyone here from Canada?
[10:04] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, what is the type of modem
[10:04] <HappyFool> hjack: sendmail shouldn't be installed by default; ubuntu uses postfix
[10:04] <MaTaks> !tell mataks about mp3
[10:04] <eobanb> okapi, use rm?
[10:05] <okapi> Kevin06: I am in Vancouver...
[10:05] <eobanb> do a df -h to see how much space you have free
[10:05] <HappyFool> hjack: i wouldn't recommend uninstalling postfix; i think it's needed for local mail delivery
[10:05] <hjack> HappyFool, Sorry then.  I assumed it was sendmal.  Then replace sendmail with postifx and same question please..
[10:05] <hjack> Then how do I prevent the port from being open?
[10:05] <kevin06> okapi, A friend of mine are having an argument. Are Oreos cookies or Biscuits?
[10:05] <mylastmorning> quirky thats not what I was asking, I want to know how to unload gnome.
[10:05] <MaTaks> !tell mataks about mp3
[10:05] <HappyFool> hjack: oh, it shouldn't be listening on any external interfaces
[10:05] <Cryptid> any body here has installed transcoder succesfull and used it
[10:05] <hjack> 25 is open
[10:05] <HappyFool> hjack: yeah, but only on 127.0.0.1
[10:05] <HappyFool> hjack: i.e., internal only
[10:06] <hjack> ooo
[10:06] <hjack> That makes sense
[10:06] <hjack> I was nmaping from my machine
[10:06] <hjack> lol
[10:06] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, internal external - adsl if adsl is it via router, wireless or something else?
[10:06] <kevin06> okapi, We know it's regional, what do Canadians consider Oreos to be?
[10:06] <HappyFool> hjack: netstat -ant|grep :25 should say this: tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:25            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[10:06] <harsh32450475849> ompaul it internal and error that copiler gives is at pastebin
[10:06] <HappyFool> MaTaks: still no luck with mp3s ?
[10:06] <harsh32450475849> under smart link pci modem
[10:06] <hjack> Okay, one more question.  What is a good firewall with GUI?
[10:06] <okapi> kevin06: I am sorry to not be part of your argument. I am trying to free some space on my system
[10:06] <HappyFool> !tell hjack about firestarter
[10:07] <HappyFool> hjack: read the msg ubotu's sent you
[10:07] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, which pastebin ubuntulinux.nl?
[10:07] <anethema> anyone know why upping to breezy would fuck all my theme icons?
[10:07] <harsh32450475849> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2802
[10:07] <hjack> I didn't get a message and also I have to lines from the nestat command : tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:25            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[10:07] <hjack> tcp6       0      0 ::1:25                  :::*                    LISTEN
[10:07] <ompaul> anethema, language please
[10:07] <anethema> ok why would it fsck all my icons
[10:07] <anethema> haha
[10:07] <HappyFool> hjack: oh, oops
[10:08] <HappyFool> !tell hjack about firewall
[10:08] <hjack> worked
[10:08] <hjack> and is that second line important?
[10:08] <hjack> tcp6 line?
[10:08] <eobanb> no
[10:08] <HappyFool> hjack: afaik that second one is the ipv6 equivalent of the first
[10:08] <hjack> okay
[10:08] <hjack> HappyFool, Thank you very much.  I appreciate it.
[10:08] <Lars_G> Any idea why my xine and mplayer don't support rstp:// transports? they're "supposed" to
[10:09] <HappyFool> hjack: np ;)
[10:09] <Lars_G> HappyFool: Btw I rebooted, but then I tought it IS an usb HDD, I could've just unplugged it, as a test
[10:10] <HappyFool> Lars_G: hrm. risking data on my hard-drive is not my idea of fun ;)
[10:10] <eobanb> are we tallking about xine or usb
[10:11] <Lars_G> HappyFool: It's a freshly formated HDD ;)
[10:11] <Lars_G> HappyFool: The USB one is.
[10:11] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, your missing the header files do this: sudo apt-get install linux-386 it will get everything you need
[10:11] <okapi> eobanb: 100% space used. How much do I need for KDe and how to free some space?
[10:11] <Lars_G> HappyFool: Since you seem to be faster than Seveas ;) do you have any idea regarding my question?
[10:11] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to just run in terminal without the x server?
[10:11] <eobanb> *carefully* use rm to delete files you don't need.
[10:11] <HappyFool> ompaul: i don't think linux-386 depends on linux-headers-386
[10:12] <harsh32450475849> thnx can u please give a brief explaination on what this is
[10:12] <HappyFool> Lars_G: hrm, sorry, i've never played with that
[10:12] <Kris_k> my problem http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71317
[10:12] <ompaul> HappyFool, is it not the complete package?
[10:12] <HappyFool> Lars_G: try running it from the command-line, see if it tells you anything useful
[10:12] <okapi> eobanb: rm cmd need lot work!
[10:12] <HappyFool> ompaul: afaik just linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386
[10:13] <ompaul> HappyFool, he has half it I want to insure that the full whack hits the box
[10:13] <HappyFool> ompaul: apt-cache show linux-386 => Depends: linux-image-386, linux-restricted-modules-386
[10:13] <ompaul> ahh
[10:13] <ompaul> doh
[10:13] <ompaul> so more is needed
[10:13] <Lars_G> HappyFool: Gouda Idea
[10:13] <harsh32450475849> hey guyz thats going above my head, so ompaul me should hit that line
[10:14] <hjack> HappyFool, One more question.  It says I should able to apt it but I am getting this :
[10:14] <hjack> root@Recidivism:/home/hjack # sudo apt-get install firestarter
[10:14] <hjack> Reading package lists... Done
[10:14] <hjack> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:14] <hjack> E: Couldn't find package firestarter
[10:14] <nalioth> hjack: dont paste please
[10:14] <HappyFool> hjack: pls don't paste more than 2 lines
[10:14] <hjack> I'm sorry
[10:14] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, okay so its > sudo  apt-get install linux-headers-386  linux-restricted-modules-386
[10:14] <hjack> I didn't know
[10:14] <hjack> I won't anymore
[10:14] <eobanb> is firestarter in universe?
[10:14] <HappyFool> !tell hjack about repos
[10:14] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, then you do what you were doing
[10:14] <harsh32450475849> oh thanks a lot
[10:14] <mylastmorning> how do you run ubuntu without gnome?
[10:14] <hjack> Wow, learning a lot! w00t
[10:15] <HappyFool> eobanb: yeah, looks like it
[10:15] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, there may be more but that will get you further
[10:15] <Shin_Gouki> there is more to learn then u would gasp ;)
[10:15] <nalioth> mylastmorning: you install the Desktop Manager of your choice
[10:15] <harsh32450475849> i now but  need to proceed right now i am halted for weeks
[10:15] <mylastmorning> nalioth... well if you can't turn of x how can you install display drivers?
[10:16] <Cryptid> !!!!!!!!!!Where can i get this package Please HELP "libavcodeccvs" !!!!!!!!!!
[10:16] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Cryptid
[10:16] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, what is your native language?
[10:16] <nalioth> Cryptid: easy on the ! or you'll run out soon
[10:16] <Cryptid> Where can i get this package Please HELP "libavcodeccvs" !!!!!!!!!!
[10:16] <harsh32450475849> sorry for now, its know
[10:16] <nalioth> mylastmorning: i dont understand
[10:16] <harsh32450475849> my native one is Hindi
[10:16] <Cryptid> nalioth lol
[10:16] <NoUse> mylastmorning using apt, what kind of video card do you have?
[10:17] <mylastmorning> NoUse, I have a GeForce FX GO 5200
[10:17] <HappyFool> Cryptid: please don't repeat yourself. it looks like it's in 'main'
[10:17] <harsh32450475849> I am a Mechanical engineer by profession, dont have much knowledge about this
[10:17] <NoUse> !tell mylastmorning about nvidia
[10:17] <HappyFool> oh
[10:17] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, I do not know if there is a Hindi channel :)
[10:17] <HappyFool> oops, no
[10:17] <Lars_G> mylastmorning: You can always use apt-get
[10:17] <NoUse> mylastmorning follow those intructions
[10:17] <Cryptid> nalioth, do u know where i can get that file
[10:17] <harsh32450475849> ok
[10:17] <HappyFool> Cryptid: sorry, scrap that
[10:17] <Aragorn_Guardian> libavcodeccvs - this must be in cvs ...think it cant be found in repositories
[10:17] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, Run this command >> sudo  apt-get install linux-headers-386  linux-restricted-modules-386 <<
[10:17] <harsh32450475849> i am also having a screen resolution problem if you can help
[10:17] <HappyFool> Cryptid: looks like i have an old version from marillat. maybe it's on hoary-extras?
[10:17] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, one thing at a time
[10:17] <Aragorn_Guardian> Cryptid:  isnt libavcodec
[10:18] <harsh32450475849> i am on windows Xp ompaul so cant do it right now
[10:18] <nalioth> Cryptid: i'm not goin there. transcode is THE holy grail and is either very easy to install or impossible.  do you have transcode installed?
[10:18] <Cryptid> nalioth i am trying to install transcode
[10:18] <harsh32450475849> just noting down what u have said
[10:18] <Cryptid> HappyFool it isnt on the extras
[10:18] <nalioth> Cryptid: read what i said. i wish you luck
[10:18] <jrattner1> can i pass like 50 files to rm
[10:19] <jrattner1> rm file1 file 2 file3?
[10:19] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, what kind of video card have you got?
[10:19] <nalioth> jrattner1: if you dont want them anymore
[10:19] <HappyFool> Cryptid: sorry, i barely remember installing it
[10:19] <Cryptid> nalioth, that is not very encouraging
[10:19] <harsh32450475849> i have a 845 GVSR chipset and my vendor say it has an inbuilt display card
[10:19] <jrattner1> nalioth, should i put them in quotes it's a long list
[10:19] <nalioth> Cryptid: i've been using linux since 97 and i had lots and lots of trouble gettin transcode working
[10:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jrattner1 about cli
[10:20] <Cryptid> Argorn_Guardian, can u help me with libavcodeccvs
[10:20] <Cryptid> nalioth, in that case it might be really stuff installing it
[10:20] <Cryptid> nalioth, 97 is along time i am using it just from few weeks
[10:21] <nalioth> Cryptid: yes. good luck
[10:21] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, well I know nothing of that, however if you click on > system - prefrences - screen resolution < you may have some luck
[10:22] <harsh32450475849> well i have done that but dont show the option to 800*600 only 600*480 option
[10:22] <nalioth> Cryptid: you should learn to compile, and should learn the capabilities of apt-get
[10:23] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, get the modem working the machine on the net, and do this >> sudo apt-get install irssi <<  you can then talk from a terminal to here (ctrl + alt  + F1) will give you a terminal and you can go the the window manager (ctrl+alt+f7) and then on one of the ones in between you can log in and execute commands
[10:24] <imc1> hi, on breezy. With FF every time I try to download a file I get an XML parsing error complaining about bad syntax
[10:25] <harsh32450475849> ok let me try that
[10:25] <harsh32450475849> what for is irssi
[10:25] <HappyFool> for irc ;)
[10:25] <harsh32450475849> thanks fool
[10:26] <harsh32450475849> me leavng the windows hope to log in from linux in few minutes
[10:26] <kbrooks> lol
[10:26] <jbalint> hi
[10:27] <HappyFool> ello jbalint
[10:27] <ubiquitin> is there a way to set a label for a partition without erasing the whole disk?
[10:28] <HappyFool> ubiquitin: take a look at tune2fs
[10:28] <jbalint> have you tried fdisK?
[10:28] <imc1> anyone on my FF problem?
[10:28] <Cryptid> nalioth, i think i will forget bout trancode coz it needs so many bloody files to work i am having more trouble installing this than installing a new OS well ne way do u know any program that will reduce the fps and resolution of a video?
[10:29] <_jason> imc1:  have a link so I can try?  I just upgraded to breezy as well
[10:29] <hjack> whats the diff between apt-get, dkpg, and wget?
[10:29] <mylastmorning> can anyone tell me how to open up the nvidia control panal?
[10:29] <hjack> btw HappyFool, That link to the "Unofficial Ubuntu" rocks.
[10:29] <NoUse> hjack wget is a simple http/ftp client, dpkg is a package manager and apt-get sits onto of dpkg
[10:29] <HappyFool> hjack: err
[10:29] <HappyFool> hjack: i hope i didn't send such a link
[10:30] <_jason> mylastmorning:  applications > system tools > nvidia settings
[10:30] <HappyFool> the regs here will excoriate me if i did ;)
[10:30] <anacaona> hey all
[10:30] <hjack> well, the bot did
[10:30] <nalioth> hjack: be careful of ubuntuguide
[10:30] <kbrooks> ew
[10:30] <anacaona> i need some help installing a networked printer over samba
[10:30] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[10:30] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[10:31] <HappyFool> hjack: anyway, wget is a general ftp / http client; dpkg is a low-level debian package management tool, and apt-get is a higher-level, repository-aware tool
[10:31] <anacaona> i want to use it from the ubuntu box but its connected to a winxp pc
[10:31] <mylastmorning> _jason, its not their.
[10:31] <amias> lo all
[10:31] <NoUse> mylastmorning did you install the control panel?
[10:31] <LazyAngel> hi! anyone familiar with raid5 and ubuntu 5.10?
[10:31] <kbrooks> my fps is up to 4 on a simple screen saver
[10:31] <kbrooks> "Atunnel"
[10:31] <mylastmorning> yeah I did NoUse
[10:31] <imc1> _jason, installed breezy, launched FF, went to vmware, clicked download and instead of the download mgr coming up I got an xml parsing error. Did the same at dell.com with a driver, same error
[10:32] <etnoy> anacaona: tried the printer configurator?
[10:32] <amias> has anyone got mga_vid working with a 2.6.12 kernel ?
[10:32] <NoUse> mylastmorning just run nvidia-settings from a terminal window
[10:32] <anacaona> yeah
[10:32] <_jason> mylastmorning:  you probably need to restart the gnome panel for the item to show up
[10:32] <amias> the ubuntu package for mga_vid contains source but there is no kernel-source-2.6.12
[10:32] <anacaona> i don't know what to put in Location
[10:32] <LazyAngel> i have installed 3 disks in raid5 in the bios. But under the instalation, i get sda,sdb and sdc... shouldn't they all be under sda?
[10:33] <anacaona> in connection i put network printer
[10:33] <anacaona> (windows smb)
[10:33] <HappyFool> amias: i think you want linux-source-2.6.12
[10:33] <anacaona> under host i put the ip number
[10:33] <BockBilbo> mmm
[10:33] <BockBilbo> can you guys see the fonts at www.coldplay.com?
[10:33] <anacaona> it finds the printer, it seems
[10:33] <x_or> Does anyone know what the keystroke is to not go to boot in grub?  I have a grub conf which goes to boot in one second, need to press the key to edit the boot settings via edit mode.
[10:33] <etnoy> anacaona: smb://username:pass (at) host/printer (sorry mf at ke isn't working)
[10:33] <pavka> hi all
[10:33] <LazyAngel> x_or: "esc"
[10:33] <kbrooks> Why is my fps up to 4 on a simple screen saver (Atunnel)?
[10:33] <pierro> how can I know if sylpheed2.0 will be released in breezy ?
[10:34] <kbrooks> Why? WHY?
[10:34] <BockBilbo> i cant see the fonts of many flash sites.... do i have to download any font package?
[10:34] <kbrooks> !info sylpheed breezy
[10:34] <ubotu> sylpheed: (Light weight e-mail client with GTK+), section universe/mail, is optional. Version: 2.1.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 489 kB, Installed size: 1244 kB
[10:34] <kbrooks> pierro: in there now ;)
[10:34] <anacaona> thanks for the tip etnoy,
[10:34] <anacaona> i'm trying it
[10:35] <amias> HappyFool: doh ! , thanks
[10:35] <pierro> thanks kbrooks, that's cool
[10:35] <pierro> then.. start upgrading to breezy
[10:35] <kbrooks> pierro: np
[10:36] <LazyAngel> anyone wanna help me set up hardware raid5 under ubuntu installation?
[10:36] <mylastmorning> anyone play cube?
[10:36] <pavka> can someone help me? I need application like mindterm, but which runs on server side. I have closed ssh port on clientside and on client ive only webbrowser :(
[10:36] <TiMiDo> no one tells me hi ;P
[10:36] <eobanb> well why dont you use mindterm, pavka
[10:36] <kbrooks> TiMiDo: hi?
[10:36] <TiMiDo> lol
[10:36] <TiMiDo> hey kbrooks
[10:37] <eobanb> get apache running and throw mindterm in somewhere
[10:37] <pavka> eobanb: mindterm is only java client runs on client side. it is conected by standard port, so i must be connected on http port
[10:37] <kevman> Oooh. The 13th.
[10:37] <eobanb> so the connection is firewalled?
[10:37] <pavka> eobanb: yes
[10:37] <amias> pavka, you could run ssh on port 80 if nothing else is using it
[10:37] <antoni1> hi
[10:37] <TiMiDo> hi antoni1
[10:38] <amias> pavka, or any other unused port for that matter
[10:38] <pavka> amias: ive only webbrowser on client side
[10:38] <eobanb> no, listen to what i'm saying
[10:38] <eobanb> run apache
[10:38] <amias> pavka, there is a java applet vnc client
[10:38] <eobanb> server your own copy of mindterm
[10:38] <pavka> eobanb: mindterm on apache is good idea, but o dont know how I setup it
[10:39] <kevman> Will Kubuntu be released the 13th, as well/
[10:39] <kevman> ?
[10:39] <amias> pavka, it will be served by vnc if you enable its builtin http server
[10:39] <kbrooks> kevman: yes
[10:40] <kbrooks> kevman: ok, not sure
[10:40] <pavka> eobanb: do U know some web about it?
[10:40] <mylastmorning> anyone know where I can get the package "libSDL_image-1.2.so.0"
[10:40] <kevman> sweet. My kubuntu system did not take the update from Hoary to Warty or whatever well.
[10:40] <kbrooks> mylastmorning: search in synaptic
[10:40] <kbrooks> sdl
[10:41] <kevman> I think I'll do a compete reinstall.
[10:41] <eobanb> pavka, one thing at a time
[10:41] <kbrooks> kevman: i said i'm not sure
[10:41] <eobanb> do you have apache running
[10:41] <HappyFool> mylastmorning: at a guess, libsdl-image1.2
[10:41] <kevman> Yes, you did.
[10:41] <pavka> eobanb: yes, apache2 on breezy is running
[10:41] <HappyFool> mylastmorning: packages.ubuntu.com has a file-search capability
[10:41] <eobanb> okay, then download mindterm and put it somewhere that apache is sharing
[10:42] <kbrooks> HappyFool: why dontt we point people to it?
[10:42] <HappyFool> kbrooks: i just did, i think ;)
[10:42] <pavka> eobanb: mindterm is working too :) But only as javaclient
[10:42] <kbrooks> HappyFool: no, other people
[10:42] <Gwildor> hello
[10:42] <TiMiDo> Gwildor^ hello
[10:42] <amias> HappyFool, hang on is linux-source including the ubuntu patches or is it vanila , it looks vanilla to me
[10:42] <eobanb> what's the problem then???
[10:43] <Gwildor> how do i install usb-storage, usb-uhci, and usb core?
[10:43] <HappyFool> amias: um, i'm not sure -- i thought it would include the patches
[10:43] <luke_> hi
[10:43] <kbrooks> HappyFool: it does
[10:43] <HappyFool> amias: maybe the kernelhowto on the wiki will tell you more
[10:43] <TiMiDo> luke_^ hello, there
[10:43] <eobanb> i'm saying put mindterm in a folder shared by apache so that you can run mindterm as an applet in your browser
[10:43] <kbrooks> or maybe not
[10:43] <pavka> eobanb: mindterm dont connect because runs on client side
[10:43] <eobanb> so run sshd on a port that isnt firewalled!!
[10:43] <TiMiDo> lol
[10:44] <antoni1> Hi
[10:44] <luke_> is there any program in ubuntu to configure starting enviroment, I mean to choose with modules and programs are strated
[10:44] <pavka> eobanb: only 80 isnt firewalled and on 80 runs apache :(
[10:44] <eobanb> 80, 81, 8080, 443, whatever
[10:44] <eobanb> what about 443?
[10:44] <Gwildor> how do i install usb-storage, usb-uhci, and usb core?
[10:44] <pavka> eobanb: nothing
[10:44] <TiMiDo> Gwildor^ sudo apt-get install package
[10:45] <eobanb> what the hell kind of a connection is this, dude
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> Gwildor,  those are kernel modules - that shoudl allready be on the system
[10:45] <Gwildor> TiMiDo, not found....tried that already
[10:45] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, lsmod show that they arent
[10:45] <TiMiDo> do modprobe modules,
[10:45] <pavka> eobanb: at work :(
[10:45] <kbrooks> nice
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> lsmod shows they are NOT LOADED.
[10:45] <eobanb> work???
[10:45] <kbrooks> a ubuntu faq guide
[10:45] <eobanb> and they dont let you do HTTPS?
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> for some odd reason they are not loading automaticially.. which on most systems they should.
[10:45] <Oea> hi
[10:46] <TiMiDo> Oea^ hi
[10:46] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, by any chance can you help me mount a usb device?
[10:46] <Oea> I am having a slight problem with hoary... I have auto updates on, i turn off computer one day
[10:46] <luke_> is there any program in ubuntu to configure starting enviroment, I mean to choose with modules and programs are strated
[10:46] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, i take it back...they are there
[10:46] <Oea> i turn it on to a kernel panic
[10:46] <pavka> eobanb: my question was ssh client on serverside
[10:46] <Oea> Some crazy kernel panic
[10:46] <Oea> had to use knoppix to boot
[10:46] <Oea> something wrong with the updates?
[10:46] <TiMiDo> Oea^ ok, it happends,
[10:46] <TiMiDo> not really,
[10:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell luke_ about bum
[10:46] <Oea> ah
[10:46] <Oea> how do i repair it?
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> Gwildor,  normally for my ubuntu systems when i plug in a usb device - gnome mounts and pops open a window for it.
[10:46] <TiMiDo> updates, are 100 % secure
[10:46] <Oea> linux is new to me
[10:46] <TiMiDo> Oea^
[10:46] <eobanb> i dont know, maybe webmin can do something like that
[10:47] <Oea> I can give you the exact error
[10:47] <TiMiDo> Oea^ well, you need to do, is repair it, with knoppix or ubuntu
[10:47] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, ok, im
[10:47] <TiMiDo> ok
[10:47] <eobanb> i'd seriously just talk to your sysadmin and see what other ports can be opened
[10:47] <Oea> I am in knoppix right now hehe
[10:47] <Oea> hold on
[10:47] <eobanb> because only 80 is just ridiculous.
[10:47] <TiMiDo> ok pasted them on #flood
[10:47] <TiMiDo> or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:47] <Oea> Kernel Panic: VFS: unable to mount root partition
[10:47] <TiMiDo> Oea^ give me one second
[10:47] <Oea> unable to mount root fs on unknown block..
[10:48] <Oea> and something about appending correct root=
[10:48] <Oea> ok
[10:48] <Oea> brb cig
[10:48] <pavka> eobanb: my company works with critical data, so it is important
[10:48] <pavka> eobanb: webmin has only telnet
[10:48] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, this device does not auto mount, and when i try <mount usbfs -t /dev/sda /mnt/sda>  i get unkniwn file type
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> try
[10:48] <eobanb> well dude...it's not going to be secure anyway if it's just through your browser
[10:48] <pavka> eobanb: so tnx, ill find much more
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> 'file /dev/sda'
[10:48] <eobanb> do you understand what i'm saying?
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> Gwildor,  is this a cdrom drive? or hard drive or what?
[10:49] <eobanb> it's not secure shell if it's server side and passing clearcase via http
[10:49] <luke_> is there any console program?
[10:49] <luke_> except bum?
[10:49] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, flash drive i believe.....its not mine...im remotly connected......but its whooping me, and i determined to fix
[10:49] <pavka> eobanb: i need connect out of company on unsecured machine :)
[10:49] <thesilentkiller> i am planning to install a vpn server. i've heard of, and i am looking into poptop and openvpn. are there any other ones that i should look into?
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Gwildor,  well im just guessing  but - bet /dev/sda is WRONG.. it may be /dev/sda1
[10:50] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, i cant try that
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Gwildor,  use fdisk -l /dev/sda and see what partions are on the drive
[10:50] <TiMiDo> Oea^ are you therE?
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> useing sudo as needed. :P
[10:50] <Gwildor> why didnt i think of that
[10:50] <TiMiDo> guess not
[10:50] <pavka> bye
[10:51] <kbrooks> brb
[10:51] <TiMiDo> tyt kbrooks
[10:51] <kbrooks> testing out nvidia
[10:51] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, it is sda1   but <mount usbfs -t /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda> still give me unknown file type
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> Gwildor,  you may want to look Closely at that mount command.. I think its wrong.
[10:52] <jbalint> anybody had problems installing on centrino laptop? My installer disc can't detect the network card (ipw2100), and it just stalls at 0% and dmesg says something like eth0: failed to activate device
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> isent it mount -t usbfs ?
[10:52] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, well, so far, that is the only command that has given my any sort of promising results
[10:52] <Oea> OK
[10:52] <Oea> i am here
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> and in any case.. I cant recall ever using "usbfs" as the file system
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> if its fat32 - you say fat32
[10:53] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, i did...it is fat16, i said fat16, still gives me the same thing
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> 'file /dev/sda1' should tell you the file system.
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> fat16 - is '-t fat'  I think
[10:53] <Oea> Timido
[10:53] <informant> Dr_Willis: -t vfat
[10:53] <TiMiDo> Oea^ yeah
[10:53] <Oea> wassup
[10:53] <sarkie> hello
[10:54] <TiMiDo> Oea^ are you running lilo or grub?
[10:54] <TiMiDo> sarkie^ hello
[10:54] <Oea> i think what happened was
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> vfat = fat32 isent it?
[10:54] <Oea> lilo
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> i forget. :P
[10:54] <TiMiDo> ok great
[10:54] <informant> Dr_Willis: or msdos
[10:54] <Oea> grub didn't want to install
[10:54] <sarkie> I have a little problem trying to install vmware!
[10:54] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, jsut fat didnt work either..........i will try again...lost my connection for a second
[10:54] <sarkie> its not in the wiki
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> im wondering how it got formnated with fat16 :P
[10:54] <informant> Dr_Willis: as far as I'm aware, there is only 'msdos' and 'vfat'
[10:54] <informant> but could be wrong..
[10:54] <TiMiDo> linux root=/root/partition on lilo's prompt Oea it should be working
[10:54] <_jason> epic___:  you there, I figured out how to remove mount icons from the desktop
[10:54] <Oea> timido, the config is right
[10:55] <Oea> the config root=/dev/hda2
[10:55] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, i have no ida, its not mine.....but i lost my connection ne ways....so im done for tomarrow
[10:55] <Oea> which is right
[10:55] <P8ntKid> What are some good window managers to try out? I have been using Fluxbox for a long time.
[10:55] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, TILL tomarrow..........
[10:55] <Gwildor> Dr_Willis, thank you ever so much......laters
[10:55] <TiMiDo> Oea^ ok well reboot the pc, and put linux root=/dev/hda2 on lilos prompt
[10:55] <ubuntu> oops
[10:55] <Oea> timido, lilo doesn't give me a prompt?
[10:55] <Oea> just tries to boot hoary
[10:56] <TiMiDo> Oea^ what do you have on /etc/fstab ?
[10:56] <wef> p
[10:56] <Oea> /dev/hda1 none swap defaults 0 0
[10:56] <Oea> # Added by KNOPPIX
[10:56] <Oea> /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 ext2 noauto,users,exec 0 0
[10:56] <Oea> # Added by KNOPPIX
[10:56] <Oea> /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3 ext2 noauto,users,exec 0 0
[10:56] <kbrooks> question
[10:56] <sarkie> Im trying to download the header files for ubuntu but the .tar is corrupt is there anywhere else i can get it from?
[10:56] <Oea> oh wait
[10:56] <Oea> think that's the knoppix fstab
[10:57] <Oea> D:
[10:57] <TiMiDo> lol
[10:57] <TiMiDo> pasted it on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:57] <Oea> /dev/hda2       /               ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[10:57] <Oea> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[10:57] <Oea> /dev/hda3       /storage        ext2    defaults
[10:57] <Oea> that's the ubuntu one
[10:57] <sens> Can anyone help me with a desklet I'm trying to use?
[10:57] <TiMiDo> Oea^ well you're fstab is wrong, that's why it doesn't boot
[10:57] <Oea> weird
[10:57] <nalioth> Oea: please do not paste in here
[10:57] <Oea> i didn't change it
[10:57] <Oea> sorry nalioth
[10:58] <TiMiDo> Oea^ yeah changed it, and reboot
[10:58] <ghb> I've encountered something strange: my DVD-ROM runs in UDMA, but my harddrive only runs in MDMA. Why?
[10:58] <Oea> ok
[10:58] <TiMiDo> it should work
[10:58] <Oea> change it to?
[10:58] <TiMiDo> /dev/hda2?
[10:58] <kbrooks> package of the kernels please?
[10:58] <imterro> ubotu, tell imterro about sudo
[10:58] <TiMiDo> that's you're root partition on ubuntu
[10:58] <Oea> yes
[10:58] <sens> Can anyone help me with an image viewer in gdesklets?
[10:58] <TiMiDo> kbrooks^ sudo apt-cache search kernel-image
[10:58] <Oea> but the lilo config points to that
[10:58] <Oea> root=/dev/hda2
[10:58] <TiMiDo> sens^ gimp, eog
[10:58] <sarkie> a non corrupt kernel headers for 2.19
[10:58] <kbrooks> TiMiDo: u do know you dont need sudo for that
[10:59] <kbrooks> ?
[10:59] <TiMiDo> Oea^ copy the etc/fstab on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:59] <TiMiDo> so i can take a look at it
[10:59] <Oea> ok
[10:59] <TiMiDo> kbrooks^ well do then apt-cache search kernel-image sorry for that, then people make mistakes,
[10:59] <sens> TiMiDo, eog? I've got the desklet, but it onyl displays one picture, it's 'preview.jpg' but I want it to display my pictures
[10:59] <TiMiDo> sens^ apt-cache search jpg :P
[10:59] <kbrooks> TiMiDo: i want to remove a old kernel
[10:59] <Oea> i think what happened is-
[10:59] <Oea> the auto-updater tried to update the kernel
[10:59] <TiMiDo> kbrooks^ apt-get remove oldkernel
[10:59] <Oea> but someone rebooted my computer
[11:00] <kbrooks> TiMiDo: ... you don't get it
[11:00] <Oea> you know how you have to click terminal
[11:00] <Oea> and go thorough the kernel update?
[11:00] <TiMiDo> yeah
[11:00] <Oea> i think someone rebooted my computer while it was doing that
[11:00] <TiMiDo> so did you apt-get install the kernel Oea ?
[11:00] <Oea> cause it happened while i was not home
[11:00] <Oea> i had automatic updates checked
[11:00] <n00bster> hi, after every reboot, i need to enable the nic card manually? any solution
[11:00] <TiMiDo> Oea^ that's why when you leave home you always turn off ssh and telnet,
[11:00] <zblach> hi
[11:00] <sens> TiMiDo, I don't see what you're trying to get at :P
[11:00] <amias> Oea. you could run synaptic if you don't want to use the command line
[11:01] <mylastmorning> where can I find the SDL_mixer package?
[11:01] <sarkie> please help me :O(
[11:01] <TiMiDo> sarkie^ ask
[11:01] <zblach> couple of simple questions. 1) Is there a menu editor in breezy? i.e. add applications to applications bar?
[11:01] <Oea> see
[11:01] <nalioth> zblach: right clik on your menu
[11:01] <sens> I'm off, need sleep
[11:01] <amias> zblach,  1) see end of Applications menu
[11:01] <kbrooks> mylastmorning: apt-get install libsdl-mixer1.2
[11:01] <Oea> so i think it's trying to boot into a bad kernel maybe
[11:02] <Oea> can i change which kernel it boots into
[11:02] <Oea> from knoppix?
[11:02] <zblach> amias, nalioth , wow. that was simple. thanks
[11:02] <kbrooks> Oea: grub menu
[11:02] <Oea> use lilo
[11:02] <zblach> 2) is there a graphical grub editor?
[11:02] <Oea> :X
[11:02] <TiMiDo> Oea^ edit /etc/lilo.conf
[11:02] <Oea> nod
[11:02] <kbrooks> Oea: ... ... oh
[11:02] <harsh32450475849> Hi ompaul, u there
[11:02] <P8ntKid> What are some cool Window managers to try out? I have been using Fluxbox for a while now and im getting pretty board of it :(
[11:02] <kbrooks> zblach: none at all atm
[11:02] <sarkie> TiMiDo, I have tried installing vmware, i used the wiki got further than it did, I get an error where it needs paths to kernel headers, I try and download them using synaptic but the package is corrupt, but i downloaded linux-tree because I was told it would help but vmware doesnt accept. I just want vmware to work!!
[11:03] <kbrooks> zblach: in thoery anyway
[11:03] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, did it work?
[11:03] <harsh32450475849> nope
[11:03] <BockBilbo> sarkie, why dont yu use qemu?
[11:03] <harsh32450475849> it installed what u asked, i mean headers
[11:03] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, and the make failed?
[11:03] <zblach> 3) defaults for opening files
[11:03] <Oea> ok
[11:03] <Oea> this is whack
[11:03] <Oea> lol
[11:03] <Oea> i have to go
[11:03] <Oea> will tryto fix it later
[11:03] <TiMiDo> ok
[11:03] <TiMiDo> gl
[11:03] <Oea> shouldn't be too hard
[11:03] <harsh32450475849> but after that i trie to installed the driver and i have a new error message which ill be updating in paste bin  in a minute
[11:04] <Oea> lots of people seem to have the problem
[11:04] <Oea> searching googl
[11:04] <TiMiDo> yeah
[11:04] <Oea> ejust nobody has a definitive answer hehe
[11:04] <ghb> Does anyone know why my harddrive runs at MDMA when my DVD-ROM manages to run in UDMA?
[11:04] <P8ntKid> What are some cool Window managers to try out? I have been using Fluxbox for a while now and im getting pretty board of it :(
[11:04] <harsh32450475849> yeh i think so
[11:04] <TiMiDo> P8ntKid^ try waimea
[11:04] <sarkie> no it wont install because the .deb package is corrupt
[11:04] <TiMiDo> P8ntKid^ try wmaker blackbox etc etc
[11:04] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, don't bother with the pastebin what make of modem is it?
[11:04] <sarkie> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-2.6.12-9_2.6.12-9.21_i386.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[11:04] <sarkie> see
[11:05] <TiMiDo> rm /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-2.6.12-9_2.6.12-9.21_i386.deb:=
[11:05] <TiMiDo> remove it and then do apt-get update
[11:05] <harsh32450475849> smartlink
[11:05] <TiMiDo> bla apt-get -f install
[11:05] <n00bster> hi, after every reboot, i need to enable the nic card manually? any solution
[11:05] <harsh32450475849> i have checked their site and they gave me the right one
[11:05] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, which model ?
[11:05] <TiMiDo> n00bster^ do you know the name of the module?
[11:05] <harsh32450475849> its smart link 32 bit PCI modem
[11:06] <harsh32450475849> internal one
[11:06] <zblach> 4) setting default handlers for file extension types
[11:06] <sarkie> TiMiDo, now what?
[11:06] <n00bster> what module ?
[11:06] <kbrooks> zblach: ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
[11:06] <mylastmorning> hmm, I've got broken packages...
[11:06] <TiMiDo> sarkie^ do the apt-get -f install
[11:06] <TiMiDo> n00bster^ you're nix car
[11:06] <TiMiDo> d
[11:07] <kbrooks> zblach: you do know linux isnt windows?
[11:07] <zblach> kbrooks, ?
[11:07] <sarkie> did it
[11:07] <n00bster> lost you
[11:07] <LazyAngel> does anyone have asus a8n-sli premium?
[11:07] <P8ntKid> Will waimea automaticly be added to my xsessions list or will i have to add it?
[11:07] <amias> zblach, 4) right click a file and choose open with
[11:07] <zblach> kbrooks, obviously. windows works well
[11:07] <TiMiDo> P8ntKid^ you have to add it
[11:07] <sarkie> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[11:07] <mylastmorning> how do you extract rpm files in terminal and specify where they are going to extract.
[11:07] <TiMiDo> sarkie^ ok good then let it wait,
[11:07] <sarkie> for?
[11:07] <TiMiDo> mylastmorning^ man alien or sudo apt-get install alien alien rpm
[11:07] <zblach> amias, is there a default option for that? i.e. 'always open this file type with ...'
[11:07] <nalioth>  mylastmorning use alien on rpms
[11:07] <TiMiDo> sarkie^ so it can fixed the error
[11:08] <nalioth> zblach: right click the file in nautilus
[11:08] <sarkie> pardon?
[11:08] <VenomousGecko> Hey all
[11:08] <TiMiDo> hey VenomousGecko
[11:08] <billytwowilly> anyone remember total annihilation? How do I make unit groups in that game?
[11:08] <sarkie> sorry If i download the file its corrupt how will rename help?
[11:08] <VenomousGecko> Can I ask a question about BB Preview
[11:08] <VenomousGecko> ?
[11:08] <TiMiDo> try asking it
[11:08] <[LethAL] > ^^
[11:08] <kbrooks> zblach: extensions arent really revelant in linux FYI, use file to find out what a file is -- file foo
[11:09] <kbrooks> in cli
[11:09] <amias> zblach, System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications    will let you choos the big three
[11:09] <VenomousGecko> If I install the Preview, I should be able to do a dist-upgrade to get to official BB when it is released, is that right?
[11:09] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, what I am wondering is can you get a module that you can insert as opposed to building, let me look up a few things
[11:09] <TiMiDo> right VenomousGecko
[11:09] <[LethAL] > VenomousGecko, Update Maanager will do it's thing anyway
[11:09] <kbrooks> VenomousGecko: 1. dont ask to ask
[11:09] <[LethAL] > So yeh
[11:09] <kbrooks> 2. yes
[11:09] <VenomousGecko> Okay, cool
[11:09] <VenomousGecko> That is what I was wondering
[11:09] <nalioth> VenomousGecko: dist-upgrade wont be necessary from the preview
[11:10] <mylastmorning> nalioth, I'm trying to extract SDL-1.2.9-1.i386.rpm to "/" how would I do that with alien?
[11:10] <VenomousGecko> I wanted to install it but didnt want to have to do it all over again when it goes "LIVE"
[11:10] <TiMiDo> mylastmorning^ alien SDL-1.2.9-1.i386.rpm
[11:10] <nalioth> mylastmorning: you dont want to install it?
[11:10] <harsh32450475849> i mean modules that are already compiled and be placed
[11:10] <zblach> kbrooks, wasn't sure of that. thanks
[11:10] <rellik> my apache quit working...  'lynx localhost' gives what it should, but 'lynx foo.bar.com' gets denied (wants username for "washer" which I dunno what it is)..  I know the DNS is setup because I'm ssh'ing into the machine I'm working on using foo.bar.com
[11:10] <nalioth> mylastmorning: and you didnt find sdl in the repos?
[11:10] <kbrooks> nalioth: i showed him
[11:10] <mylastmorning> nope. I didn't nalioth.
[11:10] <kbrooks> "mylastmorning: apt-get install libsdl-mixer1.2"
[11:10] <zblach> 5) an archiver with a nice GUI and multiple extension support
[11:10] <rellik> any ideas?
[11:10] <nalioth> mylastmorning: every SDL thing you've asked for is in the repos
[11:10] <[LethAL] > rellik, firewall/router
[11:11] <kbrooks> mylastmorning: answer: above, did u enable universe?
[11:11] <x_or> Anyone here using freenx?  What command do I use to connect to a freenx server?  nxclient IP?
[11:11] <nalioth> zblach: all the archivers in ubuntu are frontends for cli programs
[11:11] <VenomousGecko> Why do you say that I wont have to do a dist-upgrade?
[11:11] <mylastmorning> I'm not sure kbrooks.
[11:11] <amias> zblach 5) archive_manager
[11:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mylastmorning about repos
[11:11] <VenomousGecko> That was directed at nalioth, sorry
[11:11] <nalioth> mylastmorning: enable universe and multiverse
[11:11] <rellik> Lethal ah, thanks
[11:11] <harsh32450475849> ompaul http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2804 here is the new error log
[11:11] <zblach> amias, archive_manager is giving me trouble with .rar files
[11:11] <nalioth> VenomousGecko: b/c if you install the preview release, you will already have the latest dist
[11:12] <harsh32450475849> old one is this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2802
[11:12] <TiMiDo> zblach^ did you installed unrar?
[11:12] <nalioth> zblach: install "unrar-nonfree"
[11:12] <VenomousGecko> nalioth: I am just saying when they move to official, then do a dist-upgrade
[11:12] <nalioth> mylastmorning: you will break your system if you use things not meant for ubuntu
[11:12] <VenomousGecko> I understand that the PR was just released and has latest as of right now
[11:12] <mylastmorning> nalioth, how do I edit the repository list.
[11:12] <TiMiDo> mylastmorning^ nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:12] <nalioth> VenomousGecko: the preview release will upgrade itself to official, no "dist-upgrade" necessary
[11:13] <VenomousGecko> Ahhh okay
[11:13] <VenomousGecko> Thanks for the help guys
[11:13] <VenomousGecko> ...and gals
[11:13] <johnio> anybody now when breezy will officially be released?
[11:13] <TiMiDo> np
[11:13] <TiMiDo> joh^ octuber 13
[11:13] <nalioth> johnio: oct 13
[11:13] <LazyAngel> 15. october
[11:13] <johnio> tnx
[11:13] <[LethAL] > VenomousGecko, which is what I sad anyway ;)
[11:13] <LazyAngel> sorry. 13
[11:13] <TiMiDo> *october
[11:13] <[LethAL] > said*
[11:13] <Determinist> any of you guys managed to install the nvidia drivers under breezy?
[11:13] <TiMiDo> Determinist^ well what nvidia?
[11:13] <sarkie> yes
[11:13] <TiMiDo> there's lots of nvidias
[11:14] <sarkie> I have the latest
[11:14] <Determinist> TiMiDo, 6600gt
[11:14] <TiMiDo> ok
[11:14] <VenomousGecko> LethAL:  I know, didn't mean for it to seem like I ignored your comment
[11:14] <sarkie> using synaptic is easy
[11:14] <VenomousGecko> Thanks
[11:14] <[LethAL] > Oh, ok :)
[11:14] <VenomousGecko> Have a good day guys, time to head home from work
[11:14] <VenomousGecko> ...and gals :)
[11:14] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, do you know how to pm?
[11:14] <TiMiDo> Determinist^ well look at this package for a bit http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=367097
[11:15] <TiMiDo> the answer is there
[11:15] <Determinist> TiMiDo, k
[11:15] <P8ntKid> How do i get Waimea to show up on the Sessions list on the ubuntu logon screen?
[11:15] <sarkie> TiMiDo, thanx alot that seems to have sorted never thought of removing the old package installed now
[11:15] <chavo> Determinist, I installed the nvidia drivers, the xorg "nv:" driver won't work with my 6600GT
[11:15] <sarkie> thank you!!!!!!!!
[11:15] <harsh32450475849> Is this utiltity worth trying to run linux from windows Xp from same machine  Bochs IA-32 Emulator Project
[11:15] <zblach> 6) Eclipse
[11:15] <TiMiDo> sarkie^ ok np
[11:15] <TiMiDo> any time ;P
[11:16] <Determinist> chavo, this didnt use to be a problem under hoary, the driver install just worked fine
[11:16] <nalioth> harsh32450475849: better to run windows on it from linux (but it is mighty slow any way you run it)
[11:16] <mylastmorning> does anyone play cube?
[11:16] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, don't know it
[11:16] <harsh32450475849> well i have to get my modem fixed in linux so thought of getting help now from windows
[11:16] <P8ntKid> Or, better yet, What would i put in my waimea.desktop file?
[11:17] <harsh32450475849> ompaul have u read the log file
[11:17] <chavo> Determinist, are you trying to install the package or the nvidia installer?
[11:17] <TiMiDo> P8ntKid^ check cd /etc/X11/waimea/menu/
[11:17] <amias> zblach,  to extract to current dir -  unrar e /path/to/rarfile.rar      to list contents -  rar l /path/to/rarfile.rar
[11:17] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, I have but it is pretty pointless without me reading the make file which I have downloaded
[11:17] <harsh32450475849> nalioth is it possible to use that application over winXp to run linux
[11:17] <zblach> amias, thanks
[11:17] <P8ntKid> TiMiDo: ??? What do you mean.
[11:17] <Determinist> chavo, the latter, downloaded the .7667 driver from their site and currently trying to install it but with no luck. it keeps asking for gcc something telling me i have the wrong version etc
[11:17] <harsh32450475849> oh, thanks anyway
[11:18] <zblach> ubotu, tell me about radeon
[11:18] <PassionLim> My laptop (samsung X05) contain 1 GB Memory. When the latop hibernated  and then waked up, it hang up, showing me the messange "resume= option should be used to set suspend device....swsusp: Need to copy 50894 pages". But I downgrade the memory to 512 MB, it works well. I wonder whether the hardware of my laptop have problem or I need to set something or satisfy some requirement to use hibernation?
[11:18] <zblach> ubotu, tell me about raedon
[11:18] <harsh32450475849> can i post the make file too
[11:18] <chavo> Determinist, you need gcc 3.4, it has to be the same as the version the kernel was built with
[11:18] <P8ntKid> TiMiDo: Right now i made another waimea.desktop file in my /usr/share/xsessions like i do every other window manager, i just dont know what to put in the file.
[11:18] <BockBilbo> !radeon
[11:18] <ubotu> BockBilbo: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:18] <chavo> breezy comes with 4.0, but you can install multiple versions
[11:18] <TiMiDo> /usr/bin/waimea P8ntKid
[11:18] <[LethAL] > !tell BockBilbo about ati
[11:18] <Determinist> chavo, alright
[11:18] <[LethAL] > That what you were looking for?
[11:19] <BockBilbo> lethal not me ,) zblach
[11:19] <chavo> just do -> export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 , before running nvidia installer
[11:19] <[LethAL] > LOL
[11:19] <[LethAL] > :P
[11:19] <BockBilbo> ;)
[11:19] <chavo> and make sure you uninstalled any .deb version first
[11:19] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, I have downloaded your the file I am currently reading it
[11:19] <harsh32450475849> ok
[11:19] <P8ntKid> TiMiDo: Right now i have [Desktop Entry] 
[11:19] <P8ntKid> Encoding=UTF-8
[11:19] <P8ntKid> # Custom entry - YAY
[11:19] <P8ntKid> Name=WaiMEA
[11:19] <P8ntKid> Comment=Finally
[11:19] <amias> my compaq armada m300 wont doesn't switch off when hibernating , is it running out of swap space to store memory image ?
[11:19] <P8ntKid> Exec=/usr/bin/waimea
[11:19] <P8ntKid> Icon=
[11:20] <PassionLim> Anybody cannot help me solve hibernate problem. :(
[11:20] <[LethAL] > Sounds like Hibernation has major problems for everyone
[11:20] <P8ntKid> TiMiDo: Is that how it should be?
[11:20] <nalioth> P8ntKid: please dont paste in here
[11:20] <P8ntKid> nalioth: Sorry.
[11:20] <amias> PassionLim, i think you might have the same problem as me
[11:21] <amias> PassionLim, how big is your swap partition ?
[11:21] <[LethAL] > amias, PassionLim, same here
[11:21] <PassionLim> greater than memory size..
[11:21] <BockBilbo> [LethAL] , do u use breezy?
[11:21] <[LethAL] > Ya
[11:21] <[LethAL] > Hibernation isn't terribly important for me though ;)
[11:22] <PassionLim> amias, [LethAL] , exactly 1.1 GB.
[11:22] <BockBilbo> [LethAL] , can you tell me if you can see the fonts at www.coldplay.com ?
[11:22] <harsh32450475849> nalioth can that application be used over Xp to run Linux
[11:22] <_jason> is it possible to remove evolution and set up a different program to manage the calendar?  Does anyone know of any?
[11:22] <BockBilbo> i cant see them
[11:22] <amias> PassionLim, where you using any of it when you hibernated ?
[11:22] <tritium> chavo: are you advising people to use non-ubuntu nvidia drivers?  I hope you're here to support them when they need help in the future...
[11:23] <chavo> tritium, he asked for help with them
[11:23] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to add stuff to the gnome menu?
[11:23] <chavo> he already has them
[11:23] <tritium> chavo: all right
[11:23] <chavo> read the whole thing dude
[11:23] <PassionLim> amias, you mean my laptop?
[11:23] <_jason> mylastmorning:  hoary or breezy?
[11:23] <mylastmorning> hoary
[11:23] <_jason> mylastmorning:  install the package "smeg"
[11:23] <amias> PassionLim . no the swapspace
[11:24] <chavo> I don't "advise" anyone to do anything, just giving my experience
[11:24] <mylastmorning> can't find _jason
[11:24] <tritium> chavo: just checking
[11:24] <rellik> after editing hosts.allow or hosts.deny, do I need to run something to restart some daemon or will it just start working?
[11:24] <PassionLim> amias, sorry, I don't know more detail..
[11:24] <amias> mylastmorning, on the end of the applications menu
[11:25] <mylastmorning> amias, that only gives you a limited choice.
[11:25] <PassionLim> amias, I just set the one swap space patition on my linux box.
[11:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mylastmorning about smeg
[11:25] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, do this:: make clean; make ;  make install
[11:26] <harsh32450475849> ompaul for that i have to getout from here and go back to linux,
[11:26] <harsh32450475849> :(
[11:26] <amias> PassionLim, to find out how much of your swap you are using run 'top' in a terminal and tell us what the Swap: value is
[11:26] <ghb> I fixed the problem with my slow harddrive (removed a command that set it to MDMA mode), but my DVD-ROM is still reading at a painstaking slow speed (500 kb/s)... UDMA is enabled, as is 32-bit mode... I can't find of anything else to do. Please help...
[11:27] <amias> PassionLim, press q to quit top
[11:27] <harsh32450475849> thats why ia m asking for help in bochs
[11:27] <mylastmorning> how do you install a .deb file?
[11:27] <ericz> dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:27] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, really it would be better if you could get an external modem, 999 times out of a 1000 there are no problems with them, however the route you have at this time will take time
[11:27] <PassionLim> amias, Swap:  1188768k total
[11:28] <harsh32450475849> i know that and i think thats the only solution left
[11:28] <rellik> I cannot access my web server from outside the network..  port 80 is forwarded, but "telnet foo.bar.com 80" gives "Connection Failed"..  (from the machine, "lynx localhost" works fine)..  is there something that would make the machine refused foreign connections?
[11:28] <amias> PassionLim, sorry i ment the used value
[11:28] <ericz> rellik: your ISP could be the reason
[11:28] <FireCat> Is there a way to force a package to completely reinstall?
[11:28] <rellik> ericz is used to work :(
[11:28] <ericz> oh
[11:28] <nnutter> Is there a special channel for Ubuntu on powerpc?
[11:28] <PassionLim> amias, Swap:  1188768k total,        0k used,  1188768k free,   292832k cached
[11:29] <rellik> ericz and it works fine for other servers (ssh, mail, etc)
[11:29] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, it is not, but you really should go to your local lug and get someone there to give you a dig out, if I was at the machine 10 or 15 mins max but on irc who knows
[11:29] <kbrooks> nnutter: #ubuntu-ppc oddly enough'
[11:29] <CaptainAm> What's the proper etiquette for asking questions?
[11:29] <ericz> well ssh, mail, etc work for me as well, but my ISP disables connections to port 80 or something
[11:29] <kbrooks> hmmm
[11:29] <nalioth> nnutter: powerpc can be discussed here
[11:30] <harsh32450475849> u know i am from a city where people dont know what the hell linux is
[11:30] <amias> PassionLim, hmm , so i cant be that , damn
[11:30] <harsh32450475849> they simply think windows is what computer and OS
[11:30] <amias> PassionLim, what does the Mem: line say
[11:30] <nnutter> Thanks kbrooks, nalioth, -ppc seems pretty dead
[11:30] <ericz> most of the US is that way, harsh
[11:30] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, what city?
[11:31] <PassionLim> amias, Mem:   1027260k total,   571688k used,   455572k free,    23316k buffers
[11:31] <harsh32450475849> mainly people prefer rehat version that too for the sale of it and never use it for web surfing, i am from Jabalpur, India
[11:31] <harsh32450475849> ompaul here is the make file http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2805
[11:32] <nnutter> OK, I have never used Linux on an Apple computer, I want to dual boot Ubuntu and Mac OS X. Will 4GB be a large enough partition for Ubuntu? Should I install Mac OS X and then Ubuntu? Do I have to use yaboot or can I just use the Startup Disk preference pane in Mac OS X?
[11:32] <BockBilbo> Is the flashplayer-nonfree package ok?
[11:33] <joh> Anyone know what happened to the nvidia kernel module in linux-restricted-modules on breezy?
[11:34] <ghb> My DVD-ROM is really slow, but UDMA is enabled. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
[11:34] <nalioth> nnutter: perhaps you should join ##apple
[11:34] <PassionLim> amias, Can you guess what the problem is??
[11:35] <mylastmorning> how do you move a file from one place to another?
[11:36] <oO_will_Oo> mv
[11:36] <PassionLim> mv
[11:36] <nalioth> my use nautilus
[11:36] <etnoy> mylastmorning: mv source dest
[11:36] <oO_will_Oo> mv SRC DEST
[11:36] <mylastmorning> ty etnoy for being more in detail ^_^
[11:36] <etnoy> mylastmorning: :) see man mv for more details
[11:36] <CaptainAm> I'm having troubles getting my siemens speedstream 1022 usb wireless network adapter to work. I installed the wlan-ng package, but when i do ifconfig the device doesn't show up. Any ideas?
[11:37] <Confuzzled> Hey all
[11:37] <etnoy> CaptainAm: iwconfig? tried that?
[11:37] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, http://jbplug.sourceforge.net/html/index.php and http://www.linuxlinks.com/UserGroups/Asia/India/ might be useful
[11:37] <CaptainAm> nope
[11:37] <CaptainAm> let me do that
[11:37] <etnoy> never had a wireless card, so can't help beyond that
[11:37] <harsh32450475849> there is none in my city i checked
[11:38] <CaptainAm> iwconfig didn't list it
[11:38] <eck> how can i migrate an existing filesystem (/home) into a new partition?
[11:38] <harsh32450475849> oh thank u the first one is in jabalpur infact
[11:38] <oO_will_Oo> copy it
[11:38] <oO_will_Oo> eck: then modify /etc/fstab
[11:38] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, two things the first link :) second the commands I gave may be useful
[11:38] <ompaul> harsh32450475849, do this:: make clean; make ;  make install
[11:39] <dooglus> eck: got enough unformatted space on the disk to make a copy of it?
[11:39] <amias> PassionLim, nope , it might be worth having a look at /etc/default/acpi-support
[11:39] <n00bster> hi, I'm Gonna Format ubuntu Now, Eny Last Minute, Edvise ??
[11:39] <eck> dooglus: i have free space on my hard drive
[11:39] <Confuzzled> Anyone here know of any problems i may encounter installing ubuntu on a loptop?
[11:39] <amias> PassionLim, its not working for me either
[11:39] <eck> dooglus: i know how to create a new partition, i'm just not sure how to migrate my stuff properly
[11:39] <dooglus> eck: in an existing partition, or ready to be formatted?
[11:39] <grover> hello I have 1 hoary box thats name shows up in dns. I know I did something but I forget what, and now I'd like to configure a second box to do the same. any hints? thx
[11:39] <PassionLim> amias, it's alread reported as a bug, right?
[11:40] <oO_will_Oo> eck: just copy the /home folder to the root of the new partition, then add a line to /etc/fstab and set the mountpoint as /home
[11:40] <dooglus> eck, I would use tar to migrate it, then modify /etc/fstab to mount the new partition at /home
[11:40] <n00bster> Gonna Re Format ubuntu Now, Eny Last Minute Edvise ??
[11:40] <dooglus> eck:    cd /home; tar cf - . | (cd /new/partition && tar xf -)
[11:40] <eck> oO_will_Oo and dooglus: will i need to remove it from my old filesystem afterwards?
[11:40] <oO_will_Oo> no] 
[11:40] <oO_will_Oo> i kept mine
[11:41] <eck> great
[11:41] <oO_will_Oo> incase the other partition got messed up
[11:41] <eck> thanks for the help :)
[11:41] <n00bster> ok, see you on the flipside :-}
[11:41] <dooglus> eck: you don't need to remove it, but you probably want to rename /home to /home.old at least
[11:41] <ghb> I have a problem with my DVD-ROM: it reads really slow (500 kb/s), but the DMA is enabled. Any ideas? I've tried the forum but all problems there have usually been that the DMA hasn't been enabled at the time. =(
[11:41] <amias> PassionLim, dunno , where would it have been reported ?
[11:42] <harsh32450475849> yeh ompaul let me do it over bochs
[11:42] <PassionLim> amias, dunno, me too. I just asked you to know about that.
[11:42] <kbrooks> OK
[11:42] <kbrooks> I have a extremely serious problem here.
[11:43] <kbrooks> Everyone, listen up.
[11:43] <Cryptid> Can some 1 help me install Gmerlin  i have the .tar.gz file so i need help on how to install it
[11:43] <kbrooks> this is in breezy
[11:43] <kbrooks> after X minutes (I don't know how long), ubuntu freezes up
[11:43] <kbrooks> well
[11:44] <kbrooks> not freeze up
[11:44] <oO_will_Oo> does ctrl+alt+backspace work?
[11:44] <kbrooks> oO_will_Oo: slow in gdm too
[11:44] <kbrooks> oO_will_Oo: not freeze up, but rather becomes semi reponsable
[11:44] <oO_will_Oo> hmm...
[11:45] <Cryptid> Please some1 Help me intsall .tar.gx files !!!!
[11:45] <Kris_k> My Problem is On this board: I am Sirius on this forum :D http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71317 Anyone have any ideas
[11:45] <kbrooks> it can respond to stuff
[11:45] <kbrooks> but slowly
[11:45] <Cryptid> Please some1 Help me intsall .tar.gz files !!!!
[11:45] <oO_will_Oo> i dont know, i've only been using it since yesterday, but what is taking a lot of memory in a process list?
[11:45] <oO_will_Oo> cryptid: unpack it
[11:45] <kbrooks> Cryptid: 1. dont repeat, 2. tar -xf file.tar.gz
[11:45] <Cryptid> how
[11:46] <oO_will_Oo> cryptid: cd to the directory you put it in
[11:46] <kbrooks> oO_will_Oo: erm
[11:46] <Cryptid> ok then
[11:46] <oO_will_Oo> cryptid: type "./configure"
[11:46] <kbrooks> oO_will_Oo: please explain things before the next step
[11:46] <kbrooks> oO_will_Oo: no.
[11:46] <Cryptid> k
[11:46] <oO_will_Oo> then "make" and "make install"
[11:46] <Cryptid> then
[11:46] <kbrooks> oO_will_Oo: No.
[11:47] <Cryptid> thats it first make then make install and my application is ready?????
[11:47] <kbrooks> oO_will_Oo: first off, u are half right. however, you should not assume
[11:48] <Quinthius> Cryptid: is it a source code archive?
[11:48] <oO_will_Oo> cryptid: usually
[11:48] <Cryptid> i think so i dont know man i am new to all this stuff
[11:48] <dooglus> kbrooks: take a look at the process list in 'top' to see why it's slow.  my guess would be that it's doing its daily 'updatedb'
[11:48] <Quinthius> Cryptid: for most source code archives, that is the general order of things. but for make install you'll probably need to use sudo
[11:48] <kbrooks> dooglus: i didnt check
[11:49] <Quinthius> Cryptid: also, there should be a README or INSTALL file (or both) that you should read...
[11:49] <dooglus> kbrooks: check next time.  is it only once per day it happens
[11:49] <kbrooks> let me test if updatedb is slow
[11:49] <Cryptid> ya these files exist i will go thru them
[11:49] <feaces> hey i got a ***.deb file and i need to install it
[11:50] <feaces> but im getting errors installing it in the gui
[11:50] <oO_will_Oo> feaces: "sudo dpkg -i <file>"
[11:50] <dooglus> kbrooks: alternatively, if you're using a UTF-8 locale, grep is very slow.  do you have a 'grep' in a crontab somewhere?
[11:50] <kbrooks> feaces: use dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[11:50] <feaces> depakage
[11:50] <P8ntKid> How do i get Window Maker to show up on the sessions list on the ubuntu logon screen?
[11:51] <Cryptid> Quinthius should i read the install-sh file
[11:51] <Quinthius> P8ntKid: may need to restart gdm... log out, hit ctrl-alt-f1, login at console, run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[11:51] <feaces> cmnd not found
[11:51] <Quinthius> Cryptid: umm i don't know. read INSTALL and README and they should explain what to do..
[11:51] <feaces> and im unda root
[11:51] <Quinthius> Cryptid: or the website for whatever it is you're installing
[11:51] <Rev-Marc> greetings one and all.
[11:51] <oO_will_Oo> dpkg?
[11:52] <feaces> depackage
[11:52] <chizang> in debian/unstable, i was able to paste a url anywhere in a firefox window. in ubuntu/breezy, i cannot (and must paste a url into the address bar). anyone know what setting controls that?
[11:52] <oO_will_Oo> it's literally dpkg
[11:52] <Quinthius> feaces: it's dpkg
[11:52] <mylastmorning> QUESTION: how would I get this to run? /home/aaron/games/cube/cube_unix in terminal I need to type ./cube_unix  how could I get that without going into terminal?
[11:52] <feaces> so i gotta depackage before i install
[11:52] <grover> ah I have to change dhclient.conf
[11:52] <oO_will_Oo> mylastmorning: make a launcher
[11:52] <Quinthius> feaces: dpkg!! not depackage...
[11:52] <Cryptid> Quinthius, no the readme file on decribes the program and there is no install file there is only install-sh and the website dosent have a guide to installation
[11:52] <mylastmorning> will, I already tried that
[11:52] <feaces> okay
[11:52] <Quinthius> feaces: dpkg -i blahblah.deb
[11:52] <oO_will_Oo> strange
[11:52] <mylastmorning> it cloeses
[11:53] <mylastmorning> closes**
[11:53] <kbrooks> dooglus: checking
[11:53] <Rev-Marc> I am looking to deploy Ubuntu  in our church, but my laptop is running a broadcom BCM4306 wireless and need to know if it is supported.
[11:53] <Quinthius> Cryptid: install-sh sounds like a script to install or something. there must be installation instructions somewhere... is there a doc folder or anything?
[11:53] <oO_will_Oo> mylastmorning: hmm... probably in the wrong directory, so it can't access the maps, textures and such
[11:53] <informant> Rev-Marc: try out the livecd for the latest breezy colony (5).. that should let you test things out..
[11:54] <Rev-Marc> it works in Linspire but not Fedora Core nor Mandriva
[11:54] <Rev-Marc> I will
[11:54] <feaces> dkpg isnt on my distro
[11:54] <feaces> i think
[11:54] <Rev-Marc> thank you
[11:54] <oO_will_Oo> mylastmorning: i don't know if there's any way to fix that
[11:54] <feaces> im in /home dir
[11:54] <Quinthius> feaces: ... are you using ubuntu?
[11:54] <TiMiDo> feaces^ do sudo apt-get install dpkg
[11:54] <feaces> yes
[11:54] <informant> Rev-Marc: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-preview-live-i386.iso
[11:54] <feaces> an older one
[11:54] <Rev-Marc> I really need to learn how to install devices and drivers
[11:54] <feaces> apt-get install dpkg
[11:55] <Kris_k> for the umpteeth time: Problem (X-Server is not starting up with fresh install, xorg.0.log error No Screens Found) I have ubuntu 32 bit disc (and tried the 64 bit disc same prob) with a MSI k8n Neo4 AMD 3200 64 bit x800 Ati card, have a genaric 19 inch CRT  -> xorg.0.log Pasted on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71317
[11:55] <dooglus> chizang: did you get an answer?
[11:55] <CountDown> Can anyone recommend a good CAD-like program that outputs DXF files?  Inkscape looks good, but I don't think it outputs DXF.
[11:55] <kbrooks> dooglus: none
[11:55] <chizang> dooglus: haven't seen one yet
[11:55] <Rev-Marc> thank you once again
[11:55] <feaces> couldnt find package dkpg
[11:55] <oO_will_Oo> kris_k: what DOES it display?
[11:55] <Kris_k> a shell
[11:55] <dooglus> chizang: I think it's middlemouse.contentLoadURL
[11:55] <oO_will_Oo> feaces: try synaptic
[11:56] <oO_will_Oo> to get (dpkg)
[11:56] <kbrooks> dooglus?????
[11:56] <feaces> another distro
[11:56] <Rev-Marc> Qcad is a 2D Cad
[11:56] <dooglus> chizang: you're talking about pasting with the middle button, right?
[11:56] <brosio> anyone known an howto to set up cups on ubuntu ?
[11:56] <dooglus> kbrooks?
[11:56] <Kris_k> oO_will_Oo: It lets me login at shell but no GUI
[11:56] <brosio> Administrative commands are disabled in the web interface for security reasons. Please use the GNOME CUPS manager (System > Administration > Printing).
[11:56] <Blissex> Kris_k: almost surely your X configuration is wrong.
[11:56] <brosio> i get error when i try to login
[11:56] <brosio> to administration cups
[11:56] <CountDown> Rev-Marc: Is that available for Ubuntu?
[11:56] <Blissex> Kris_k: try the 'vesa' server if all else fails
[11:56] <Blissex> !x configuration
[11:56] <ubotu> Blissex: What?
[11:56] <informant> Rev-Marc: otherwise, if it is unsupported, you could always go to linuxquestions.org's HCL (Hardware Compat. List), and check for a more "portable" solution, such as a good USB wi-fi adapter that is Linux-supported..
[11:57] <feaces> absolutely nothing
[11:57] <kbrooks> 'dooglus: none'
[11:57] <Blissex> !x
[11:57] <ubotu> x is probably It's not x, its X. POSIX(Unix, Linux...) is case sensitive.
[11:57] <Kris_k> Blissex Im having trouble setting it up then because i re ran the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  twice
[11:57] <chizang> dooglus: that worked great, thx!
[11:57] <kbrooks> dooglus: ^^^
[11:57] <feaces> or i got a bad install
[11:57] <Blissex> !xorg.conf
[11:57] <ubotu> Blissex: What?
[11:57] <dooglus> oO_will_Oo: synaptic uses dpkg to install stuff...
[11:57] <feaces> but it was the pressed cd distro
[11:57] <Blissex> Kris_k: then probably you gave the wrong answers...
[11:57] <Rev-Marc> Thank You informat...
[11:57] <feaces> not a burnt iso
[11:57] <Pickle_Weasel> is there a command that would list all packages installed in a colsole window, similar to synaptic?
[11:57] <dooglus> oO_will_Oo: every ubuntu has dpkg - I think feaces is trying to be funny
[11:57] <oO_will_Oo> kris_k: try "Xorg --configure"
[11:57] <Cryptid> kbrooks tar -xf for file.tar.gz what bout for .tar.bz2
[11:57] <kbrooks> dooglus: no
[11:57] <Blissex> Kris_k: try again with 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and specify the 'vesa' driver and a generic monitor
[11:58] <kbrooks> Cryptid: automatic
[11:58] <Kris_k> what question do i put vesa at ?
[11:58] <chizang> Pickle_Weasel: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[11:58] <dooglus> kbrooks: none greps?  or none cronjobs?
[11:58] <Rev-Marc> CountDown I have used it in Linspire and FC4
[11:58] <kbrooks> dooglus: no greps
[11:58] <dooglus> kbrooks: I think ubuntu's standard cronjobs run grep
[11:58] <Blissex> Kris_k: good question, I havent done that for a few years :-)
[11:58] <Blissex> Kris_k: Ill have a look...
[11:58] <Kris_k> Blissex lol
[11:58] <feaces> okay i got newest update synaptic
[11:59] <Cryptid> kbrooks i am getting this error wat does it mean  sudo tar -xf gmerlin-0.3.2.tar.gz
[11:59] <Cryptid> Password:
[11:59] <Cryptid> tar: This does not look like a tar archive
[11:59] <Cryptid> tar: Skipping to next header
[11:59] <Cryptid> tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers
[11:59] <Cryptid> tar: Read 5330 bytes from gmerlin-0.3.2.tar.gz
[11:59] <Cryptid> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:59] <dooglus> kbrooks: don't you see a grep in /etc/cron.daily/standard ?
[11:59] <Blissex> Kris_k: because BTW the 'ati' driver is fro _old_ cards, the right driver would be 'radeon', but perhaps your card is a bit too new for that.
[11:59] <Blissex> Kris_k: the 'vesa' driver is not the faster, and usually just works.
[11:59] <Kris_k> i have a x800 and plan to use Cedga for playing games
[11:59] <Quinthius> Cryptid: tar -jxf blah.tar.bz2
[12:00] <Kris_k> so im gona need a fast driver