[12:18] Feel free to add some me-too: https://launchpad.net/products/malone/+bug/2877 ;) [01:02] #2877 is fixed ;) === venda [n=sean@ndn-165-134-136.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === venda [n=sean@ndn-165-134-136.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [01:26] Riddell: is it okay to register digikam etc in launchpads KDE project or should I create a separete one (kde-extras or something like this?) [01:39] Sh*t I can't register kde-bugs with KDE product. The form always wants me to create a new one :( [02:07] allee: go ahead and register whatever is needed [02:07] I don't know if you need permissions or something [02:08] 'k. I'll tell you when I malone does not love me enough ;) === StR [n=str@200.6.234.138] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:20] Hi all! === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@67.15.185.40] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aliveuser [n=aliveuse@200.91.94.186] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:07] hi [06:07] is there a way to log or watch kynaptic actions? === aliveuser [n=aliveuse@200.91.94.186] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Korversation] === KaiL_ [n=KaiL@p548F4378.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D0309.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author-psi_afk [n=marcel@p50904B35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D0309.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:20] Riddell: i'll start building 3.4.3 for hoary [01:21] amu: starting with breezy would be best I think [01:21] then backport to hoary === hunger [n=hunger@p54A605F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:22] there is a KDE 3.4.3? [01:22] Riddell: hmm also fine for me :) did you started ? [01:22] JRe: tagged today [01:22] hello [01:22] amu: no, I've not started anything [01:22] JRe: yep downling sources now [01:23] amu: url? [01:23] amu: packagers only [01:23] ok [01:23] JRe: rather [01:23] Riddell: i'll up them to novablubb there we can work together on it :) [01:24] amu: cool [01:24] the only problem is time :) i've max. 2-3h time / day for it [01:25] much as you think packaging can be just a case of debuil and walk away for a few hours it never ends up like that [01:26] it seems there is not so many changes so thaht might not be long to package [01:26] what's about existing bugs :D ? [01:26] amu: what bugs? [01:26] Riddell: i can still upload them to main ? [01:27] Riddell: *g* ah i forgot we dont have any :) [01:27] amu: no, main is closed for breezy [01:27] Will 3.4.3 make it into breezy? [01:27] sebas: alas, no [01:27] Ok, guessed that :) [01:27] How far is breezy away anyway? [01:27] 1 week [01:28] Ok. [01:28] Riddell: I have find some packages in universe which have broken desktop files [01:28] KDE_NO_IPV6=1 [01:28] Riddell: should I fix them ? [01:28] in /etc/environment improof the speed of konqueor [01:28] JRe: sure [01:29] Riddell: ok send you the patches soon [01:29] Riddell: BTW debian maintainer will includes the k3b patch (he was very happy because he was working on it but went out of time :) ) [01:29] Riddell: no prob, than i'll place them all on kubuntu.org [01:31] eh haggai is still alive :) [01:35] JRe: excellent (both points) [01:35] amu: good plan [01:35] haggai might be at the linux expo today, not sure [01:35] amu@novolazarevskaya:~ $ debootstrap breezy breezy http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [01:35] E: debootstrap can only run as root [01:35] tell me about it [01:35] you can run dchroot to use the chroot [01:35] is there a sudo magic ? [01:36] but then you need to ask elmo to update it and install/uninstall required packages [01:36] and elmo is on holiday I think [01:37] hmm, ok, i build them on my buildd [01:48] -rw-r--r-- 1 amu amu 426351346 2005-10-06 13:47 kde.tgz [01:49] up it to my home [01:52] Riddell: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/klibido <-- fixed desktop file and location [01:55] Riddell: I'll forward the patches to the debian maintainer === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:56] JRe: got a debdiff? [01:57] Riddell: wait a sec I generate it [01:59] Riddell: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/klibido/klibido.debdiff [02:00] (debdiff klibido_0.2.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb klibido_0.2.3-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb > klibido.debdiff ) [02:00] JRe: ah, amd64, fancy testing the RC CDs? [02:01] Riddell: yes, sure [02:01] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20051006/ [02:02] and daily-live [02:02] JRe: you just removed usr/share/applnk/Utilities/klibido.desktop ? [02:02] Riddell: no I add the GenericName in the desktop file [02:02] JRe: oh, do the debdiff on the .dsc files [02:02] not the .debs [02:02] Riddell: ha ok sorry :) [02:05] Riddell: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/klibido/klibido_dsc.debdiff [02:14] JRe: concerning klibido, it is true that I didn't knew how to patch when I built it ;) [02:15] Tonio_: it's not a crucial thing, but I found it nice to have the GenericName in the dekstop files because it helps new users [02:15] I titally agree [02:15] My last wlassistant in revue is built like this [02:16] going in the catgory in the kmenu, with a description in enlish (at least).... [02:16] Tonio_ how it's to help to configure wifi ? [02:16] yep [02:16] Tonio :) i have to try it [02:16] works nice but a few bugs [02:16] Riddell: how different will the about kubuntu guide be then what is currently in about ubuntu (http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/about-ubuntu/C/) [02:16] anyway, it is the only tool that helped my connecting to a wifi network graphically ;) [02:17] kdenetworkconf if really buggy, and kwifimanager doesn't work also [02:17] JRe: I've tried it and it works perfectly for the first conection [02:18] anyway if you disconect, dhclient is stopped and when you try to reconnect, connection fails, then you have to launch dhclient manually and the connection builds.... [02:18] I have to post a bug to the upstream on that point. [02:18] Tonio_: hehe it's _really_ nice [02:18] JRe: but it works ;) [02:18] jre do you have access to revu ? in this case you can have a look at it ;) [02:19] Tonio_: I have access to upload but I don't think I can't comment packages of other people [02:19] yes but if download the orig.tar.Gz and my debian forlder you might be able to build it [02:20] if you wanna test [02:20] when it'll debugged, it will be a must have if you have wifi ;) [02:21] Tonio_: sure I have wifi :) [02:22] I have to post that bug ....... but no time for this [02:22] tonight: concert with Dream theater, tomorrow and all the week end girlfriend at home ;) [02:22] damn ! [02:25] Tonio_: hehe === elvirolo [n=elvirolo@lns-bzn-3-82-250-70-8.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:29] hi all [02:29] hi [02:29] amarok started using up more than 95 % CPU again [02:30] is anyone experiencing that as well ? [02:31] elvirolo: I personaly came back to xine with amarok.... [02:31] elvirolo: me too I'm using xine backend now so no more problem like that [02:31] kaffeine or amarok gstreamer support is not that good at the moment..... causing lots of little issues like yours [02:31] Tonio_: i'm using xine-engine too [02:31] I don't know why it has been choosen to implement gstreamer by defualt [02:32] kaffeine's support for gstreamer is very, very recent and very partial at the moment...... [02:32] yeah i noticed it was rather no good [02:32] I assume it is to keep a certain logic with ubuntu that uses gstreamer everywhere, but well...... [02:33] elvirolo: you mean that you have a CPU peak when starting or a CPU peak all the time amarok is opened ? [02:33] I think that could have been done in 6 months with a more mature support, and keep xine by default for the moment [02:33] JRe: no all the time [02:33] about everyone will go back to xine anyway..... [02:33] elvirolo: that's strange I am using CPU graph and I only have a peak at startup [02:34] elvirolo: what kind of file are you reading? only mp3's ? [02:34] JRe: i use to have that some time ago, then it stopped after an update, and then started again with the last update (yesterday or something) [02:34] so you're using xine and are using 95%cpu..... [02:34] letme make a test [02:35] * Add kubuntu_02_column_sort_crash.diff fix a [02:35] crash on column sort http://bugs.kde.org/113042 [02:35] elvirolo: that's the only change of the package [02:35] elvirolo: 2.5% for me [02:36] hum [02:36] it does it at least with mp3's [02:36] let me find some ogg's [02:36] but I'm playing Dire Straits -> good music ^^ [02:36] maybe the more uggly i the music, the more cpu is isued ;) [02:37] Tonio_: I don't think amarok makes the difference ;) [02:37] that would be a good solution to eduate listeners ;) [02:37] hehe [02:37] educate [02:37] yup indeed ... [02:37] this is miles davis & public enemy :) [02:37] (and it happens with ogg's too) [02:38] let me test with a bullshit like Britney...... [02:38] elvirolo: I just try with a mp3 an ogg a wma and did not have a peak [02:38] elvirolo: are you completly up to date ? [02:38] yup [02:39] strange...... miles davis & PU is good music, so I don't understand... ^^ [02:39] :-D [02:40] do you have a freshbreezy installation or is it an upgrade from hoary ? [02:40] and of course there's still this annoying bug around : http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16066 [02:40] Tonio_: fresh [02:40] I had several issues when upgrading, and had to destroy my kde profile [02:40] argh...... [02:40] yeah i did a rm -fr ~/* anyway [02:41] brb [02:41] nice you didn't forget the ~..... just imagin your finger ripping lol ;) [02:41] well I must say I don't understand your problem, sorry...... [02:41] Tonio_: i had back everything up anyway :) [02:48] so [02:48] this is really strange [02:50] yep === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elvirolo [n=elvirolo@lns-bzn-3-82-250-70-8.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:58] hi again sry === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:46] Riddell: ping [03:47] OculusAquilae: hi [03:48] hi Riddell [03:48] have packaged ksniffer [03:48] OculusAquilae: rocking [03:49] OculusAquilae: put it on a webserver somewhere and I'll take a look [03:49] OculusAquilae: you should also ask for an account on REVU [03:49] ok [03:50] JRe: are you testing the RC amd64 CDs? [03:50] Riddell: url ? [03:51] JRe: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/ [03:51] and daily=live [03:51] daily-live [03:51] ok [03:54] Riddell: http://www.oculusaquilae.de/deb/ksniffer/ << KSniffer === \sh is now known as \sh_away [04:04] Riddell: i have installed the x86 version of daily and it rocks [04:08] jjesse: excellent [04:10] JRe: are you downloading those RC CDs? [04:23] OculusAquilae: excellent pacakge [04:23] OculusAquilae: few issues http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/ksniffer [04:24] ok thanks, i can correct this === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F861.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:40] hello Hirion [04:41] hi [04:45] Hirion: don't happen to have an amd64 spare do you? [04:46] I have an amd64 system, but I have no Kubuntu installed. Only Ubuntu... [04:47] maybe this isn't important... why do you ask? [04:49] Riddell: yes [04:52] Hirion: I'm looking for people to test the kubuntu breezy release candidate CDs on amd64 [04:52] JRe: great, no pressure but this release is waiting on you now :) [04:53] Hirion: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/ [04:57] Riddell: 12% :) [04:59] Riddell: I will test the live cd, but the download takes a while [05:01] Hirion: please do [05:04] 6% ;) [05:17] is there anyway to make the kubuntu boot up screen brighter? it is incredibly dark on older monitors [05:17] can barely read the text [05:18] Riddell: thanks for your tips updated package: http://www.oculusaquilae.de/deb/ksniffer/ << KSniffer [05:19] jjesse: yes, find someone with artistic skillz to brighten it [05:20] jjesse: the ok and scrollbar colours have changed, but they don't seem to be on the current 386 CD [05:30] Riddell: I have taken the current one was it the good iso ? [05:30] JRe: yes [05:30] Riddell: breezy is out on october, 13, right ? [05:31] JRe: yes, week today [05:31] Riddell: and when updates will be stopped ? [05:31] JRe: 18 months [05:31] ok [05:35] ok rebooting with amd64 livecvd [05:52] lack of JRe isn't a good sign [05:54] perhaps he is so fascinated, that he can't start irc :-) === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:58] JRe: ...? [05:58] Riddell: really nice :) [05:58] JRe: it worked? [05:59] Riddell: the livecd seems to work perfectly [05:59] phew, we were getting worried [05:59] Riddell: I have listened a ogg [05:59] Riddell: opened a .doc [05:59] Riddell: setuped the wifi and connected [06:00] Riddell: to say the truth i am impressed [06:00] :) [06:02] Riddell: whant kind of test are you interested I perform [06:02] Riddell: normal usage ? [06:02] JRe: just make sure it boots is the main thing [06:02] JRe: able to test the install CD? [06:03] Riddell: there is a way to do that without loosing my current config :) ? [06:03] JRe: do you have /home/ on a different partition? [06:03] Riddell: yes [06:04] JRe: then just don't format /home [06:04] Riddell: ok i start downloading [06:04] JRe: try rsyncing against the live CD [06:05] cp breezy-live-amd64.iso breezy-install-amd64.iso [06:05] see KubuntuFiles for hte rsync URL [06:05] Riddell: ok [06:06] should be faster in theory [06:09] Riddell: how can i know if it has worked ? [06:13] ok I have understood === JRe is impatient to test amd64 install cd :) [06:14] Riddell: there was trouble before with the amd64 cd ? [06:15] JRe: nope [06:15] JRe: but we do need to test the CDs before releasing them on people [06:15] I have PC and mac here but no amd64 [06:15] (yet) [06:15] Riddell: will the adept icon bug be fixed before official kubuntu ? [06:15] Riddell: that is already nice :) [06:16] JRe: adept icon works, adept updated is fixed in SVN and will be uploaded after RC [06:16] k === \sh_away is now known as \sh [06:41] 75 % :) [06:47] any reason why i can't ssh into a box after upgrade this morning for breezy, connection refused and ssh is running, can ssh to the ip address from the console [06:48] if you can ssh what isn't working? [06:49] let me try and explain: on my box i cannot ssh to the recently updated box... on the updated box i can ssh localhost, ssh ipaddress and get connected [06:51] what happens when you ssh to the box [06:51] ssh -v may help as well [06:52] ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.56 port 22: Connection refused [06:53] ssh -v can be found at http://pastebin.com/385131 [06:54] finally I can test the live cd... rebooting [06:59] k burning install cd === \sh is now known as \sh_away === JRe going to install kubuntu64's rc [07:07] jjesse: sure it's the right IP? === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@p5487F861.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubuntu is now known as Hirion [07:08] Riddell: yes ifconfig shows eth0 inet addre 192.168.1.56 [07:08] Hirion: dood [07:08] jjesse: can you ping it? [07:08] Riddell: yes [07:09] Riddell: nmap output of that host http://pastebin.com/385160 === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:10] Riddell: ooooow [07:10] Riddell: I discovered a little bug [07:10] Hirion: have you tested the livecd ? [07:11] JRe: what's up? [07:11] Riddell: I don't know if it's specific to my keyboard but when I first hit return on the boot screen [07:11] Riddell: It displays a "1" and validate [07:12] JRe: I am still testing it ;) [07:12] Riddell: so it says kernel 1 nout found [07:12] Riddell: but the second time i press return it's good [07:12] Riddell: it's the weirdest bug i ever have [07:12] Hirion: did you have the error I just described [07:12] Hirion: ? [07:13] JRe: did it install? [07:13] no, but I pressed F1 first... I can test it, if you want [07:13] Hirion: ok test it if you can ;) [07:14] ok === Hirion [n=ubuntu@p5487F861.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [07:15] jjesse: tried restarting the ssh daemon? [07:16] Riddell: yes i have ssh restart and also ssh reload and ssh force-reload === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F861.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:18] I can't reproduce this bug... [07:19] Hirion: that's good :) [07:19] jjesse: I'm out of ideas I'm afraid [07:19] jjesse: I'll make a note to test it when I do my hoary upgrade tests [07:20] Riddell: ok i can just install the cd instead of an upgrade [07:20] jjesse: guess you could try purging and reinstalling ssh [07:20] ok [07:21] why doesn't "News" and "Synchronization" work in Kontact? Some files are missing [07:22] Hirion: they arn't installed by default [07:22] question is why they are showing up in the sidebar [07:22] hehe, ok === \sh_away is now known as \sh [07:44] where oh where is JRe === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:01] re' [08:01] Riddell: ok it works very well [08:01] JRe! [08:01] awooga [08:06] JRe: can you keep the cdimages for the week so next week you can juSt rsync the final one [08:06] Riddell: ok! === StR [n=str@200.6.234.197] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:25] hi all! [09:25] coudl anyone help me with my keyboard settings? [09:26] I want to have my english layout, right? and also the Dvorak layout.... [09:26] but after I move the english from the availabe layouts to the acrive layouts, I can only choose 1 layout variant (basic, int, alt-int, dvorak, rus) === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D1F1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:55] Riddell: my ssh problem is local to my one system, was able to connect to it from anothe system [09:57] jjesse: spooky [09:59] checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp [09:59] configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check [09:59] See `config.log' for more details. [09:59] make: *** [obj-i486-linux-gnu/config.status] Error 1 [09:59] debuild: fatal error at line 765: [09:59] dpkg-buildpackage failed! [10:00] hmm what does this mean ? [10:00] your g++ is insane [10:00] or you don't have something installed [10:00] :) that a fresh breezy :) [10:01] s/that/thats [10:01] fresh breezy doesn't have g++ installed [10:02] viola here we are :D [10:09] signfile arts_1.4.3-0ubuntu1_i386.changes Andreas Mueller [10:09] :) [10:13] woo! [10:21] :) that was the easiest part [10:21] but a good start [10:21] btw. we got a ppc maschine donated :) [10:22] who did? [10:22] pegasos [10:22] what sort of machine? [10:22] i asked emil some time ago, do you remember? [10:22] yes, remember something about that [10:24] no idea about the specs, but all time better than building it on my powerpook, and it's hosted in our DC with 100mbit flat === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A6344B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai waves to all [10:47] ooh an amu [10:48] well, answering questions on the KDE stand was much harder than on the debian stand, especially those of the art 'my RH KDE install screws itself everyreboot, why?' [10:48] haggai: you're a star [10:54] Riddell: heh, well I don't know about that but I tried :) [11:00] eh haggai [11:06] amu!!! [11:07] haggai??? [11:07] amu: :) just happy to see you're still alive [11:16] sure, i recharged last months, thought what i'll do with such an ammount of free time, well then i thought i should help riddell, he certainly needs some help, guess you read my mail about fixing security in debian :) [11:18] i cannot believe such na bullshit, that soo many secu bugs are open, i'm still evaluation ubuntu in office, for our thousends servers [11:19] amu: not evaluating kubuntu? [11:20] Riddell: hahahaha :) i thought that question will come [11:21] i'm evaluating with kubuntu on new dell servers [11:22] soon there will be medium sized dell servers called Dell 850, (k)ubuntu runs fine with them [11:23] starting november i'll get the new Dell 2950 Series, if this is also successfull and they dont need change hardware, with some luck we'll move to kubuntu next year [11:24] all server still runns on woody, so it's easy decision [11:24] kubuntu or ubuntu server whatever is "better" supported [11:29] Riddell: http://amu.homelinux.org/tmp/kdelibs_3.4.3-0ubuntu1_i386.build [11:34] amu: looks like you're trying to mix unsermake with non-unsermake [11:34] amu: remove unsermake from debian/control and debian/rules [11:35] hmm do you use unsermake ? i thought you told me same time moving everything to unsermake .... [11:36] 3.4.2 was made with unsermake but it caused some problems like arts randomly crashing, plus some compile issues so I probably won't bother in future [11:50] ah ok, arts was made with unsermake, should i disable it also? [11:52] amu: yeah. you sure it was made with unsermake? I thought that should have long gone from arts since it caused trouble === \sh is now known as \sh_away [11:55] Riddell: log say no, but it depends in control, but isnt used :) [11:56] amu: ah I think that's just left over, you can get rid of it in control then [11:57] but no need to recompile