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doogluskbrooks: granted, it's only grepping through a (hopefully empty) list of lost+found contents, so it shouldn't be the problem12:00
Cryptidk thanx12:00
Belutz_zzzKris_k, why don't try using fglrx ?12:00
QuinthiusCryptid: and don't spam here12:00
feacesgot synaptic but no dpkg12:00
naliothCryptid: dont paste in here please12:00
Quinthiusfeaces: ls /usr/bin/dpkg ... anything?12:00
kbrooksdooglus: not revelant12:00
BlissexKris_k: at the first question Select the desired default X server. select xserver-xorg12:00
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Kris_kI'm new to this x-server stuff and been trying to read up on it so isntalling or picking drivers is very confusing sence im coming from windows12:00
feacesOKAY PEBKAC12:00
dooglusCryptid: for one, you shouldn't untar as root - tar files can overwrite important system files12:01
kbrooksdooglus: looping12:01
feacesit was allPABKAC12:01
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kbrooksnot grepping12:01
BlissexKris_k: at the second question Select the desired X server driver. select vesa (#32 here)12:01
feacessorry guysz i feel sooo stupid12:01
Quinthius...pabkac?12:01
naliothfeaces: may we help you?12:01
doogluskbrooks: you don't have a 'grep' inside the loop?12:01
feacesproblem exists between keyboard and chair12:01
Kris_kblissex ill brb gona reboot into ubuntu and give it a try12:01
Cryptiddooglus what does that error mean that i got12:01
oO_will_Oofeaces: what was the problem?12:01
BlissexKris_k: wait12:01
Kris_kk12:01
feacesPEBKAC12:01
feacesthat was the problem12:02
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feacesnot dkpg but dpkg12:02
oO_will_Oono, that was where it was located12:02
oO_will_Ooah12:02
dooglusCryptid: I think it means that your tar isn't clever enough to realise that it's a gzipped archive, and that you need to use the 'z' flag, like:  tar xfz archive.tar.gz12:02
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BlissexKris_k: when it asks you the Please enter the video card's bus identifier. question make the answer blank unless you are sure the ID is PCI:1:0:012:02
kbrooksdooglus: it loops over directories, and ignores them if its not a directory12:02
kbrooksit DOES have grep12:03
Quinthiusdooglus: f should come last in the arguments list last i checked... so tar zxf for example12:03
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BlissexKris_k: and similart the amount of memory on the card, leave it blank12:03
Kris_kBlissex so erase whats in there and make it blank12:03
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dooglusQuinthius: no, that's never been the case.12:03
Quinthiusdooglus: it most certainly has, at least at one point in time..12:03
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kbrooksdooglus: should not must12:03
BlissexKris_k: yes, that should work. I haven't tested it specifically, but as a rule on a normal PC the PCI ID is not necessary and if you specify it wrong  bad news.12:03
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kbrooksQuinthius, dooglus: pls dont argue12:04
Kris_kblissex thank you ill brb Hopefully inside ubuntu :D12:04
dooglusQuinthius: if you have both 'f' and 'b' then the filename argument and the blocksize argument must be in the same order as the f and the b, but other than that the order of the flags is and has always been irrelevant as far as I know.  when do you think it was different?12:04
kbrooksWhy does ubuntu supply irssi?12:04
doogluskbrooks: it's the best irc client I've found so far12:05
naliothkbrooks: ask in -offtopic (to prevent a flame war)12:05
dooglus(that's not why - they didn't include it because I liked it :) )12:05
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kbrooksnalioth: ok12:05
vbgunznalioth: hey dude, really sorry if I got you and some other people upset, I really do apologize. Nothing on migrating a Mozilla Thunderbird profile was easy until I saw this page here http://www.liewcf.com/blog/archives/2004/10/move-thunderbird-profile/ I just thought I share it with those who think migrating Thunderbird from Windows would be hard... It was actually quite easy if you follow the first response to the question. I apologize 12:05
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feacesreading database12:06
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feacesls12:06
kennethlovehow do you restart CUPS?12:06
informantkennethlove: sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart12:07
feacestrying to install the tor12:07
informantkennethlove: or something like that12:07
feacesdependency problems12:07
feacesahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh12:07
kennethloveinformant: yeah, tried that.:) cups and cupsd are both not found.12:07
Quinthiusdooglus: some time within the past year or 2. it may have been a bug in whatever version i was using at the time, *shrug*, but i definately remember at some point f needing to be last since it expected the filename argument right after it12:07
oO_will_Oowhat dependencies exactly?12:07
CrellHey, folks.  I'm considering Ubuntu for a small office server, but I'm having trouble finding docs on what actual versions of various packages Ubuntu ships with.  Is that information available anywhere?  (Eg, PHP 4.what?  Samba 3.what?  Subversion 1.what?)12:07
informantkennethlove: then `ls /etc/init.d` and see what lives in there.. could by "cupsys"?12:08
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dooglusQuinthius: we'll agree to differ, shall we?12:08
CrellI've not been able to find actual versions on the web site yet, for any release.  (I'd be interested in Breezy, I suppse.)12:08
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x_orHas anyone setup DUN over Bluetooth on their Treo?  What is the top speed I can use when doing this?12:08
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Quinthiusdooglus: there's nothing to agree or disagree with... i'm telling you from experience, but it's entirely possible it was a "feature" (bug) in some older version.12:09
kennethloveinformant: thanks. it was cupsys12:09
_willcooke_Crell, http://packages.ubuntu.com/12:09
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_willcooke_kennethlove, it's something like cupsysd12:10
Crell_willcooke_ : That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks!12:10
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_willcooke_kennethlove, oh, cupsys12:10
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_willcooke_kennethlove, if you do "/etc/init.d/cu" and then press tab it'll show you whats what12:11
fdesarsomeone knows an effective way on migrating from kmail to thunderbird (tons of messages, filter rules, subdirs etc.) ?12:11
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kennethlove_willcooke_: thanks, didn't think of that.12:12
johnnythundershi all, so, i was going to try to do a 32 bit chroot environment in my 64 bit breezy, and while debootstrap was "checking component main" on the archive, it seems to have hung.  could it just be taking a long time (10 minutes)?  thanks in advance.12:13
Crellhuh.  Is there to be no PHP 4 for Breezy?12:13
CrellAh, only in universe12:14
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cevizoglufeature request for ubuntu... pass -b to apt-get and it will use bittorrent to download the updates12:16
mylastmorningis their a way to make a launcher that can run progams like this ./programhere?12:16
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anethemaanyone know of a good news reader? pan fucking blows (mostly for downloading binaries)12:17
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Crellanethema : KNode?  (Part of KDE)12:17
Kris_kYay im in ubuntu12:17
anethemaim in ubuntu..so gnome12:17
CrellThunderbird does NNTP, too, but I've not used it for that.12:17
ssamanethema, liferea12:17
cevizoglumylastmorning, there already is one... you add it to your panels12:17
cyborgceyI hope this is place for Ubuntu 5.0412:17
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ssamanethema, or do you mean real new reader12:18
anethemayeah like..pan12:18
anethemabut better12:18
cevizoglumylastmorning, you then click on it and type the name of the app you want to run12:18
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Kris_kblissex Thanks it worked now all i need to do is get the video drivers for x800 to work which i couldent do on Suse12:18
anethemawhen pan saves binaries it takes forever12:18
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BlissexKris_k: which video drivers?12:18
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anethemai basically want xnews for linux12:19
anethemahaha12:19
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anethemaKris_k, its easy12:19
Kris_kwell im not sure which to use i use the ones off the ATI site before but what otherones should i use ?12:19
anethemago here:12:19
anethema!faq12:19
ubotumethinks faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/12:19
Blissex!ati12:19
uboturumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx12:19
anethemahttp://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/12:19
anethemago there12:19
anethemadont need those12:19
anethemajust this one12:19
Kris_kk12:19
anethemaclick hardware12:19
dooglusQuinthius: I think I discovered the difference...  If you are in the habit of putting a dash in front of the tar flags, then the 'f' must come last, otherwise it doesn't matter what order.  tar -fx file.tar is wrong, but tar fx file.tar is fine12:19
anethemathen go to the ATI section12:19
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anethemagives you step by step on how to get it working12:19
Hunkyspunkyhhelo12:19
anethemacant possibly fuckup12:19
Hunkyspunkygot boot cd booting but..12:20
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Hunkyspunkyit says hit enter to boot live cd12:20
cyborgceyI am having problem getting audio on my sound card, it is a SoundMax Integrated Digital  Audio can one tell me what I need to do get it working12:20
Hunkyspunkythen i scans for hardware then a note comes up saying that a relase fiel is mssing.12:20
BlissexKris_k: the safest one is the 'radeon' hardware but it does not do fast 3D. The 'fglrx' driver is not open source, has some problems, but when it works it does fast 3D. it is described in the links I evoked above.12:20
Crellanethema : Never underestimate the ability of a human being to screw something up completely. :-)12:20
Hunkyspunkywhats that about someone please ehlp.12:20
CrellEspecially if he has a computer at his disposal.12:20
Quinthiusdooglus: aha... i did used to use the dash in front, so that was probably it12:20
anethemaBlissex, he has a x80012:20
Hunkyspunkyanyobdy ?12:20
dooglusHunkyspunky: how did you make a boot CD?  I would like to try switching from LILO to grub, but don't want to screw up my ability to boot altogher like last time I tried grub12:20
Blissexcyborgcey: it may not be supported if it is very new.12:21
anethemanot doing 3d isnt an option for him i think12:21
anethemahehe12:21
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Hunkyspunkydoes anybody now the answer to my question?12:21
anethemaCrell, true :)12:21
cyborgceyits about three years old12:21
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Blissexcyborgcey: but follow the http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 troubleshooting section and the links therein.12:21
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Hunkyspunkyi downloaded the iso and sued nero to burn image.12:21
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GDornanyone feel like helping me troubleshoot my sound card problem?  I can't get any sound system to work, and what I really want is alsa to work.12:21
dooglusQuinthius: type "info tar styles" if you're interested in how tar options work.12:21
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dooglusQuinthius: it's quite a mess!12:22
BlissexHunkyspunky: please quote your platinum account number for 1 minute response time :-)12:22
anethemaHunkyspunky, if no one answers it means no one knows the answer to your question12:22
anethemaGDorn, whats wrong, no sound at all?12:22
anethemawhat card?12:22
BlissexHunkyspunky: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions and how long to wait for one.12:22
TiMiDoac97 i bet12:22
Hunkyspunkyso if the relase file is issign is there any insrtuctions for this live cd 5.10?12:22
GDornanethema:  no sound at all now.  I had OSS working, briefly, but it's really suboptimal.  I have a turtle beach santa cruz12:23
anethemaoh, doh12:23
anethemahaha12:23
dooglusHunkyspunky: you've given us very few details12:23
Hunkyspunkyif i get this work and i'm happy with it i will doante.12:23
amiasGDorn, tells us what card it is , which platform , which ubuntu you are using12:23
Reggylovecan i make a copy from cd of ubuntu to a hdd and install ubuntu from the hdd ?12:23
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CrellI'm coming from Debian, so have a decent understanding of The Debian Way(tm) of doing configuration.  How much of that would translate to Unbutu?  (eg, the way config files are split up, etc.)12:23
Hunkyspunkyokay i put cd in..12:23
GDornamias:  turtle beach sound card, k7, and breezy.12:23
duffman25Hello. Does anyone here know what happened to the ubuntu traffic page? There haven't been any updates in a long time12:23
dooglusHunkyspunky: can I have a kidney?12:23
Hunkyspunkythe screen comes up to press enter to boot live cd12:23
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Hunkyspunkythen it scans for hardware and then a note comes up saying the relase file is missiong or it can't read it.12:24
dooglusHunkyspunky: which CD?12:24
Hunkyspunkyi tired it on 2 computers12:24
amiasGDorn, turtle beech use some quite unsual designs , which one is it ?12:24
Hunkyspunkyone on all dell 5100 and othwr ona old computer p312:24
os2macanyone got a minute to talk about acpi on a dell inspiron 8600 running ubuntu?12:24
dooglusthat's the magic of IRC.  you can tire hundreds of people at once.12:25
Hunkyspunkywhat does gd mean?12:25
GDornamias:  santa cruz.  it's listed, sorta, on the alsa hardware list12:25
_willcooke_dooglus, :)12:25
fmasiHI When will Breezy be ready? IS it ok to instal the previu and just kep whith updates ?12:25
anethemaGDorn, how did OSS stop working ?12:25
amiasGDorn, does lscpi see it ?12:25
anethemafmasi, ive got breezy running now12:25
Hunkyspunky what does gd mean?12:25
anethemaand just keeping with the updates12:25
dooglusfmasi: probably.  but there are still lots of updates.  50Mb some days12:25
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GDornamias:  yeah, it lists it as " Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24"12:26
dooglusHunkyspunky: I said 'cd', not 'gd' if that's what you're asking?12:26
Hunkyspunkycan some tell emw here i can find instructions on using live cd in pc?12:26
GDornanethema:  at some point I tried installing alsa and it not only didn't work, it took OSS out with it12:26
fmasium its becouse i red in the forum that moust my problems whill be fixed whith breezy12:26
_willcooke_GDorn, this might be painful to your ears, but... when happens when you cat a file to /dev/dsp?12:26
amiasGDorn, how do you know its not working ?12:26
amiasGDorn, make sure its a wav file12:27
Hunkyspunkyi don't wanrt to isnbtyall it till i see it wqill work and don't want to lose windows.12:27
anethemafirst first first thing you should do is check easy stuff12:27
anethemasuch as12:27
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anethemago into your OSS and alsa volume controlls12:27
dooglusfmasi: give it a try if you could cope with your PC possibly not being bootable for a few days12:27
amiasmixer settings !12:27
anethemaand check to make sure nothing is muted12:27
anethemayeah12:27
anethemamixer settings12:27
anethemasoo many ppl ive seen come in 'my sound doesnt work' and the master volume is muted12:27
Hunkyspunkyanybody got a relase file on there cd?12:27
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Kris_kAnethema i did what it said but when i run glxgears in a command like it runs but doesnt output any fps12:27
duffman25Hello. Does anyone here know what happened to the ubuntu traffic page? There haven't been any updates in a long time12:28
GDornanethema:  yeah, I checked that earlier.  only things muted are the microphones, because at one point, when OSS was working, it was making a lot of background noise from the mic line12:28
fmasidooglus, what do you mean by the pc no booting ?12:28
anethematry this Kris_k12:28
anethemafgl_glxgears12:28
anethemamy glxgears doesnt output anyting either anymore :(12:28
kennethloveso what's up with samba and cups on breezy? i had them working perfectly in hoary and i've had nothing but failures on breezy12:28
Quinthiusdooglus: yep, that's a mess alright12:28
dooglusfmasi: it's conceivable that tomorrow they issue a kernel update that screws everything up.  if you can cope with that, upgrade.  if not, wait.12:28
amiasGDorn, have you checked that the amp / headphones / speakers are working ok ?12:28
Kris_kanethema command not found12:28
anethemahmmmmmmmm12:29
anethemaok do this12:29
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GDornamias:  they work when I boot to windows, yes.12:29
fmasidooglus, i can alwais compile my owhn kernel12:29
anethemaglxinfo | grep vendor12:29
jenocinhey, was the suspend to ram taken out of the yesterdays release?12:29
dooglusfmasi: sounds like you're ready to use breezy then...12:29
anethemaand tell me what the opengl vendor is12:29
amiasGDorn, did it ever work or did it stop working ?12:29
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anethemaKris_k,12:29
Kris_kserver glx vendor string: SGI12:29
Kris_kclient glx vendor string: SGI12:29
Kris_kOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org12:29
mylastmorning!games12:29
ubotugames is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153, or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers.  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/12:29
anethemadoh12:29
GDornamias:  OSS worked, but only for one sound at a time.  I tried to install ALSA, and now both do not work.12:29
anethemaok it didnt work12:29
Kris_k:-/12:30
anethemadid you restart X?12:30
Kris_kyes12:30
Kris_krestarted whole comp12:30
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anethemaedit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:31
anethemaand make sure in the "Device" section12:31
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anethemait says fglrx and not ATI for device12:31
anethemaer12:31
anethemadriver12:31
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anethemaand make sure you said AGPgart thing is no12:31
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anethema  Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"12:32
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satafterhI have a question, I have ubuntu and kubuntu installed. How do i change the boot gui from ubuntu to kubuntu12:32
dooglusdoes anyone use a synaptic touchpad on a laptop and NOT know about circular scrolling, iPod style?12:32
dooglusI only found it a couple of days ago, but it's great for quickly scrolling through stuff12:32
amiasGDorn, but you can still use alsamixer and the settings stick between invocations ?12:32
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Kris_kAnethema do you mind talking in a PM so i log instaid of trying to scroll around ?12:33
anethemasure12:33
amiasdooglus: neat , which models ?12:33
jenocinsatafterh: which gui? the splash screen or grub12:33
GDornamias:  I'm not sure what you mean.  everything stays the same way through reboots, yes.12:33
kennethloveanyone want to help me with CUPS?12:33
dooglusamias: all, I think.  it's done in software.  you know how you can run your finger up and down the right hand edge to scroll up and down?12:33
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large_musclesIs anyone having problems accessing the repositories?12:34
GDornamias:  okay, now my onboard sound card is working.  but the thing that selects which card to output on doesn't do anything.12:34
Reggylovewhat can i do to install Ubuntu from USB cd drive ?12:34
mfvhello.  how can i become root in the Ubuntu LiveCD?  is there a default user or root password?12:34
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large_musclesmfv Ubuntu doesn't really use root.12:34
dooglusamias: it's like that, but when you reach the bottom, you can keep moving, in a circle...  just put Option "CircularScrolling" "1" in xorg.conf's synaptics section12:34
amiasGDorn, which thing ?12:34
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jenocinmfv: sudo12:34
large_musclesJmfv ust type "sudo" before entering your command.12:34
amiasdooglus, cool will have a go later :)12:34
GDornamias:  "Sound Preferences" in the System menu.12:34
satafterhthe screen showing while starting the system that has the scroling on it.12:35
Kris_kAnethema you get my pm ?12:35
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jenocinmfv: sudo passwd root should change the root password for ya12:35
fmasi_Can some one help me whith my RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)12:35
naliothmfv: but it's not advised12:35
GDornamias:  that setting is not sticking.  it shows both sound devices, lets me select either, but it always falls back to the onboard device.  I know I could disable it in the bios, but I'd actually like to have both cards working.12:35
jenocinsatafterhs: u trying to change it back to ubuntu or to kubuntu?12:35
mongerdoes anybody know what happened to the backports repositories?12:35
Reggylovewhat can i do to install Ubuntu from USB cd drive ?12:36
large_musclesmonger:  I'm having hte same problem.12:36
jenocinmfv: nope not advised but he's on the live cd12:36
jenocinbackports have to use mirrors now12:36
mongerlarge_muscles, they seem kind of empty ;)12:36
dooglusamias: for detailed instructions, search for 'circular' in http://www.polarhome.com:793/doc/synaptics-0.13.5/README12:36
anethemaKris_k,12:36
mongerjenocin, which?12:36
Kris_k?12:36
large_musclesmonger: Yeah, I keep getting 404s12:36
anethemais your nick registered?12:36
Kris_kyes12:36
fmasi_jenocin where can i found the info abouth that12:37
anethemasays priv messages are blocked12:37
anethemasec12:37
mfvok, thanks for the help12:37
jenocinI am guessing u are talking about the backports on ubuntu forums12:37
dooglusnow if only I could get it to 'click' like an ipod's scrollwheel too.12:37
mongerjenocin, no all backports12:37
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jenocinhttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org/12:37
fmasi_jenocin where can i found the info abouth that12:37
mongerjenocin, no all the mirrors are empty too12:37
fmasi_jenocin ops thx12:37
large_musclesmonger: Try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72228&highlight=repositories12:38
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large_musclesmonger: Someone has a sources.list that they said is working, I'm input it and am apt-get updating right now.12:38
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anethemamy sources.list is working fine for breezy right now12:39
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mongerlarge_muscles, let's see12:39
mongeranethema, it was only a hoary problem for me12:39
mongeranethema, my breezy machine is doing fine12:39
large_musclesmonger: Hmmm... it seems like the backpaorts are working... but I get connection timed out at http://archive.ubuntu.com12:39
fmasi_Enny one whith a RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)12:39
anethemaweird12:39
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large_musclesanethema: Think there's a difference between Breezy and Hoary?12:40
LazyAngeli can choose from 3 kernels when i  install amd6412:40
mylastmorninganyone know where I can get cube_2004.05.22-english.run12:40
LazyAngelanyone knows the diffrence?12:40
large_musclesmylastmorning: Did you check sourceforge?12:41
mongerlarge_muscles,12:41
mongerdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted did the trick12:41
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Hunkyspunkyi just tired it again.. now i was playing around and know it says its not a ubuntu cd12:41
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LazyAngellinux-amd64-generic, linux-image-amd64-generic and linux-image-2.6.12-8-amd64-generic12:41
large_musclesmonger: Did you just add that to what you had before?12:41
GDornI'm trying editing my asound.conf to see if that does any good.  if I do, do I need to restart a sound daemon, and how would I do that?12:41
Hunkyspunkyi burnt the image using nero on a dc-r12:41
mongerlarge_muscles, just added it12:42
LazyAngelwhats the diffrence?12:42
Hunkyspunkydc-r=cd-r12:42
TiMiDoLazyAngel; look, at the ubuntu.com12:42
Hunkyspunkyif anyone can help oits appreciated12:42
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LazyAngelTiMiDo: i cant find where to look... :(12:42
dooglusLazyAngel: two of them are meta-packages I think.  go for the shortest-named one12:42
mylastmorningyes large_muscles, they don't have .run files anymore.12:42
Dreamglidercan anyone help me ?12:43
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TiMiDo!tell LazyAngel about doc12:43
syamajalahi does the live cd have madwifi support?12:43
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Hunkyspunkycan u use a cd-r for ubuntu?12:43
cevizogluin grub's menu.lst, root (hd0,1) corresponds to /dev/sda2, right?12:43
TiMiDosyamajala; nope12:43
large_musclesmonger I already had that in my sources.list12:43
Hunkyspunkyi even ordered a ubuntu live cd and install cd for pc intel x8612:43
LazyAngelTiMiDo, dooglus: thanks12:43
large_musclesmonger: Do you think you can send me a copy of yours?12:43
syamajalaTiMiDo: do you know of any livecds that have madwifi support with rdesktop?12:43
large_musclesmonger: Maybe PM it or something.12:44
TiMiDosyamajala; check on ubuntu.com12:44
mongerlarge_muscles, I'll try no big hero with IRC :>12:44
dooglusLazyAngel: can you see the filesizes?  I would expect the 2 shortest named ones to be tiny12:44
large_musclesmonger: Me neither, don't worry about it.12:44
syamajalaxp on my mom's laptop isn't working and she needs to log into work12:44
syamajalashe is using my laptop12:44
Hunkyspunkyso waht happens when ubuntu says its not a ubuntu cd?12:44
TiMiDosyamajala; intalled ubuntu and then, installed it with apt,12:44
TiMiDoHunkyspunky; it won't boot12:45
cevizogluor is root (hd0,1) equal to /dev/sda1?12:45
syamajalabut it can't be run from the livecd?12:45
Casiushttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72022 - does anybody have any ideas? Can't get ubuntu to run..12:45
syamajalathats ok12:45
syamajalaslax seems to have support for madwifi12:45
TiMiDosyamajala; yes it can12:45
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lJlolelhello12:46
BioVorEi8042.c: can't read CTR while initializing i8042 <-- kernel glitch?   Poof no keyboard.. sock ubuntu 686 smp kernel12:46
TiMiDolJlolel; hello12:46
LazyAngeldooglus: no12:46
lJlolelmy installation of breezy preview is stuck at 91%12:46
dooglusLazyAngel: look here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/base/linux-amd64-generic12:46
LazyAngelTiMiDo: that documentation is the worst i have seen ever: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/AMD6412:46
lJloleli'm on ctrl_alt_f7 right now anyway, though12:46
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lJlolelthis is the postinstall base install stuck on 91%12:46
TiMiDoLazyAngel; well relax we're just starting that's why12:46
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zblachhaldo12:46
TiMiDolJlolel; did you put the cd?12:47
TiMiDoread why is taking so long lJlolel12:47
dooglusthat one is size '21.2k', the next one is the same, and the longest one is 14,000k12:47
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lJlolelit says [0%]  Working12:47
lJlolelon tty412:47
syamajalaTiMiDo: i'm gonna use slax12:47
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syamajalathanks12:47
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seethruHunkyspunky: you're sure it burned correctly? did you download it from ubuntu.com?12:47
TiMiDolJlolel; it doesn't say nothing about enter a cd?12:47
lJlolelbut nothing is after that12:47
TiMiDosyntaxman; go for it,12:47
zblachquick question. i'm configuring ...a program... and i'm getting something a 'NAT Error'. what is?12:47
lJlolelum, no, it was downloading from apt before12:47
kennethloveanyone have any experience with NFS?12:47
TiMiDooh ok,12:47
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lJloleli can probably stop it now and download everything else i need later... but how do i stop it?!12:48
lJlolelctrl+c and kill just make it restart12:48
TiMiDolJlolel; do ps x12:48
TiMiDoand kill the pid12:48
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lJlolelyea it just started again12:49
lJlolelrebooting doesn't work either12:49
TiMiDobla,12:49
TiMiDolJlolel; killall apt12:49
lJlolelapt: no process killed12:50
lJlolelbut when i try to apt-get install something it says it's locked12:50
Hunkyspunkyi downloaded from ubuntu.com12:50
Hunkyspunkyand burnt iso image using nero..12:50
anethemaHunkyspunky,12:50
anethemacheck the hashes12:50
TiMiDolJlolel; just do ps x and killed the pid,12:50
anethemamake sure it is the same12:50
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anethemaif it is, there is a problem in how they built the cd, or there is a problem how you burnt it12:51
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anethematoo fast maybe, etc12:51
anethemaor a problem with the blank12:51
[A] ndy80after upgrading my ubuntu breezy I got installed the Kubuntu-usplash. How can I turn back to Ubuntu-usplash?12:51
Hunkyspunkyit boots up but when i starts to scan for hardware it fails saying it can't find this relase file and when i play around with different setup options it says its not the real ubuntu cd.12:51
Hunkyspunkybut it got to be.12:51
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TiMiDo[A] ndy80; apt-get remove Kubuntu-usplash and apt-get install Ubuntu-usplash12:51
anethemait means it is just a live cd12:51
dooglusHunkyspunky: did you check the md5 of the disk?12:51
anethemayeah12:52
anethemathats what i would do12:52
anethemacheck the hash12:52
Hunkyspunkyanethema can you pm me to help me please?12:52
thompahi folks: anybody else having trouble opening synaptic12:52
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CasiusI'm having trouble starting up with the live cd. If anybody can help me out, give me a PM. thanks12:52
anethemauhhh i can in about 20mins12:52
Blissex[A] ndy80: I think the kubuntu splash is called 'kubuntu-artwork-usplash', odds are the Ubuntu splash images are in package with a similar name.12:52
LazyAngeldooglus: generic will depend on the last complete kernel available, while image will depend on just the latest. The last option is for a newer kernel. thanks for the URL.12:52
anethemajust gonna run to get my gf12:52
TiMiDothompa; what troubles are you getting?12:52
anethemajust use md5sum on the .iso file12:52
[A] ndy80thanks :)12:52
dooglusLazyAngel: welcome12:52
thompadoes not open12:52
anethemaand check it against the one on the ubuntu.com server12:52
TiMiDothompa; is it running?12:52
thompaeither does update manager12:52
Hunkyspunkyhow do i chaeckt the files?12:52
mongernn12:53
Hunkyspunkycheck12:53
anethemayou need the .iso you downloaded12:53
thompamaybe ?12:53
dooglusLazyAngel: where did you find that information?  I didn't notice it on the page I mentioned12:53
Hunkyspunkyi dleeted the iso file i downloaded dam.12:53
anethemadoh12:53
Deterministhmmm, would it be safe to remove all those driver packages for legacy cards? e.g. xorg-server-driver-tseng?12:53
dooglusLazyAngel: please don't answer that - it's embarrasing...12:53
anethemai would re-download12:53
TiMiDothompa; well if it's running u cannot run it again duh12:53
anethemathen burn it slower12:53
anethemaon to a nice blank12:53
LazyAngeldooglus: hehe :P12:53
thompai dont see it12:53
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TiMiDotry ps x12:53
jenocinhow do u use kfce for a windows manager?12:53
thompaif its running its hiding12:53
TiMiDoand see if it's running12:53
DWoodleyHello12:53
Hunkyspunkyi  burnt it at 32x could that be the porblem?12:53
anethemaif that doesnt work, dunno..they fucked up a package somewhere or you have some broken hardware12:53
TiMiDoDWoodley; hello12:53
jenocingot it installed already12:53
dooglusLazyAngel: I think my eyes got drawn by the pretty red blobs12:53
Hunkyspunky i  burnt it at 32x could that be the porblem?12:54
anethemaHunkyspunky, if you have shitty media it is certainly possible12:54
dooglusHunkyspunky: check the md5sum of the disk - then you'll know!12:54
anethematry 24.12:54
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LazyAngeldooglus: i know. It was just luck that made me see the text :)12:54
jenocinxfce I mean12:54
anethemadooglus, how do you check the md5 of the whole disc12:54
DWoodleyI was wondering if someone could direct me to someone who can help me join the Desktop Team12:54
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TiMiDoanethema: dd path of the disk12:54
[A] ndy80TiMiDo: usplash is already installed on my system... do I have to dpkg-reconfigure the kernel image too?12:54
anethemahe doesnt have the iso he downloaded12:54
dooglusanethema: I would dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum12:54
Hunkyspunkyhow to check the md5sum on disk?12:54
TiMiDo[A] ndy80: not really12:54
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Hunkyspunkyi'm downloading the siuo again.12:55
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anethemayeah but, might change the sum12:55
dooglus(or something like that)12:55
anethemaburning to disc with nero then getting it back off12:55
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anethemai wouldnt trust that12:55
anethemamaybe the label is one off..some weird disc mode thing..anything12:55
gloriawhat should i add to the repository to give me w32codes, vorbistools, livdvdcss2, etc.???12:55
dooglusanethema: it's an image - burning it should make an exact copy.12:55
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anethemaone bit different and the sum totally changes12:55
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dooglusit's not like you created the iso - you just download it and burn it, bit for bit12:55
mylastmorningfor limewire do you download the RPM?12:55
woodwizzleI'm running breezy with beagle. How do I turn live-queries on?12:55
DWoodleyIs it possible for someone to help me with joining the Desktop Team12:55
TiMiDoDWoodley: huh?12:56
anethemai guess12:56
dooglusanethema: one bit shouldn't change!12:56
anethemai would be wary, but try it12:56
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DWoodleyI saw it on the ubuntu site12:56
TiMiDoDWoodley: where?12:56
DWoodleyLet me find the link12:56
mylastmorninganethema were you talking to me?12:56
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gloriawhat should i add to the repository to give me w32codes, vorbistools, livdvdcss2, etc.???12:56
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Hunkyspunkyno i can't do this i'l just wait for the cd to ship.12:56
anethemamaybe he changed the label...maybe he dindt use some error correction (mode 2) or somehting and maybe that would change a few bits12:56
concept10DWoodley, goto #ubuntu-desktop12:56
Hunkyspunkythansks.12:56
anethemawho knows12:56
anethemamylastmorning, nope :)12:56
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mylastmorningok, ^_^12:56
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TiMiDo!tell gloria about w32codes.12:57
TiMiDo!tell gloria about w32codes12:57
mylastmorninganyone use LIMEWIRE?12:57
TiMiDobla12:57
zack_XFCE rules!12:57
TiMiDozack_: cool,12:57
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thompaTiMiDo: nevermind . it seems the other user i created dis not have admin task privilages12:57
bimberiubotu tell gloria about hoary-extras12:57
zack_only fuss i have with it is no desktop icons12:57
bimberiubotu tell gloria about w32codecs12:57
TiMiDooh ok thompa12:57
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dooglusLazyAngel: so "linux" is the kernel, which consists of the kernal image (linux-image) and the restricted modules (linux-restricted-modules).  since you probably want both parts, you want to use "linux-amd64-generic".12:58
thompazack_: you got xfce running?12:58
zack_yes12:58
DeterministTiMiDo, would it be safe to remove all those xorg-server-driver-* packages that have been installed by default? i have the nvidia driver installed and functional and have no use for legacy driver support...12:58
thompaim going to try it next12:58
TiMiDoDeterminist: nope don't remove those packages,12:58
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DeterministTiMiDo, what are those for?12:59
dooglusDeterminist: I tried it once, and it tried to take the whole of x.org with it.12:59
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thompadont mess with xorg!12:59
TiMiDowell xorg-server is you'r X display to run gnome kde fluxbox etc, etc,12:59
Deterministthat's really bad package management then :/12:59
TiMiDoyeap Determinist look around for the drivers though don't give up!12:59
dooglusTiMiDo: there are a whole bunch of modules I don't need - like all those fancy video cards that I don't have12:59
TiMiDodooglus: true,01:00
fmasi_Some one have enny idia why my netwhork bord is limiting my download at 17Kb/s while i the other pc i get 32 ???01:00
luiteis there a good IDE for C++ in ubuntu that has intellisense like capabilities?01:00
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TiMiDoluite: apt-cache search c++01:00
TiMiDoand see what you get,01:00
dooglusTiMiDo: but I think the way it's set up is that the top xorg package depends on all the rest - so if you remove any of the video drivers, you lose the top xorg package too01:00
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dooglusmaybe it's just an empty metapackage, so it wouldn't matter, but I didn't explore any further01:01
TiMiDodooglus: well it's a big messed, though it's always good to have experienced to messed around with those files manipulating files, and stuff01:01
large_musclesCan someone send me their sources.list please?01:01
dooglusTiMiDo: the way I see it, I can always reinstall if I mess things up badly enough.  And then there's always the XP dual boot if I get desperate...01:02
TiMiDolarge_muscles: do apt-setup01:02
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doogluslarge_muscles: breezy or hoary?01:02
TiMiDodooglus: well, then try messing with it, manipulating stuff, then good luck,01:02
large_musclesdooglus: Hoary01:02
LazyAngeldooglus: too late. i went for the 2.6.12 kernel. i think i read something about some support for my raid. But i doubt i will get it to work.01:02
doogluslarge_muscles: I suggest you do apt-setup if that works...01:02
TiMiDoyeah apt-setup should work sudo apt-setup01:03
ZalborHi, could someone tell me how to mount a USB flash drive manually? It doesn't mount automatically for me.01:03
large_musclesTiMiDo: I don't have an Ubuntu CD though.01:03
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dooglusLazyAngel: what's the deal with amd64 and breezy?  is it supported?01:03
TiMiDolarge_muscles: you don't need to have an ubuntu cd to do that,01:03
TiMiDoZalbor: sure ask ahead01:03
large_musclesTiMiDo: It's asking me to insert one.01:03
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TiMiDoah,01:03
LazyAngeldooglus: i dont know01:04
large_musclesTiMiDo: Sorry, I think I got it.01:04
ZalborTiMiDo, what do you mean ask ahead?01:04
TiMiDoZalbor: do this as root, sudo mount /media/<manufacturer>/01:04
dooglusLazyAngel: when I searched at packages.ubuntu.com I didn't see any amd64 kernel for breezy01:04
large_musclesTiMiDo: Now do I choose http or ftp?01:04
TiMiDolarge_muscles: http or ftp whatever you want,01:04
doogluslarge_muscles: some decisions in life you have to make for yourself01:04
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ZalborTiMiDo, the directory in /media does not exist. It used to create it whenever I put the drive in and delete it when I unmounted.01:05
jenocinhow do you change the gnome window manager?01:05
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large_musclesTiMiDo: It always seems to time out when trying to connect to archive.ubuntu.com01:05
jenocinhttp://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg01:05
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demianmaxhas anyone come across this error install perl modules from cpan? 'mkdir /usr/local/man: File exists at /usr/share/perl/5.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 112'01:05
TiMiDook great,01:05
TiMiDogive me a second Zalbor01:05
TiMiDoZalbor: do this sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart01:06
TiMiDomount /dev/sda1 /mnt/flash01:06
dooglusLazyAngel: ok, so I'm still an idiot.  the search form on packages.u.c defaults to only searching for hoary packages.  breezy supports amd64 of course, here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-amd64-generic01:06
mylastmorninghow do I uninstall .run file? like doom3?01:06
LazyAngeldooglus: hmm... i just assumed it was supported.01:06
TiMiDomylastmorning: man update.rc01:06
LazyAngeldooglus: hehe01:06
dooglusLazyAngel: breezy has kernel 2.6.12.16 - you're not tempted?01:07
mylastmorningTiMiDo, it doesn't show anything.01:07
TiMiDomylastmorning: bla hold up01:07
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mylastmorningTiMiDo, ok.01:08
TiMiDomylastmorning: whereis file, and then make deinstall01:08
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mylastmorningummm01:08
ZalborTiMiDo, the hotplug restart doesn't fix it (though it says [ok] ). And sda1 isn't the flash drive, I don't know what the file in /dev is01:08
ubuntuuser678hi, could anyone help me, when i type "who" it comes up with 3 users although it should really only be one01:08
TiMiDoZalbor: do lspci01:08
TiMiDoand look at it01:08
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TiMiDoubuntuuser678: do w01:08
ubuntuuser678k01:09
ubuntuuser678it comes up with "herrpoon" three times01:09
ubuntuuser678which is me01:09
mylastmorningTiMiDo, what did you ask of me?01:09
LazyAngeldooglus: 2.6.12-8 was the newest on the cd01:09
TiMiDohold up,01:09
TiMiDobrb01:09
dooglusLazyAngel: it's 2.6.12-9 now01:10
LazyAngelbut now i dont know where to install GRUB... i'm using software raid...01:10
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demianmaxubuntuuser678: they probably have a :0, pts/1 and pts/2 after them right?01:10
Kris_kHey whats a good Media Player for both Music/Movies or Whats a good one for  Music01:10
sorush20my spell checker has suddenly stoped working in openffice how can I fix this?01:10
ZalborTiMiDo, the flash drive apparently is /dev/sdb, thanks. I had no idea what kind of file it was supposed to appear as.01:10
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ubuntuuser678yep01:10
ubuntuuser678what does that mean?01:11
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demianmaxubuntuuser678: it's fine, just different TTY connections01:11
ubuntuuser678cool thanks01:11
seethruKris_k: amaroK for music IMO01:11
informantKris_k: rhytmbox or xmms are decent (different UI) for music, I like mplayer for movies/DVDs/etc.01:11
informant*rhythmbox01:11
demianmaxKris_k: amarok for music, mplayer or (my favorite) VLC for movies01:12
demianmaxhas anyone come across this error install perl modules from cpan? 'mkdir /usr/local/man: File exists at /usr/share/perl/5.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 112'01:12
mylastmorninghow do you install rpm's?01:12
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umberleighit's got brilliant playlist features ;)01:13
Kris_kDude Ubuntu Is awsome01:13
informantmylastmorning: `rpm -Uvh [package] `01:13
Kris_kthe Synaptic Package manager is awsome !01:13
demianmaxmylastmorning: look at the alien package to use rpms etc01:13
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informantmylastmorning: that will install or upgrade; although, that is for RPM-based systems.. on Ubuntu, you might be better off compiling from source, or finding a Ubuntu/Debian package01:13
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mylastmorninghow do you run deb files?01:14
demianmaxmylastmorning: you can use alien to install rpms and other packages onto a debian based machine like ubuntu01:14
funkyHatmylastmorning, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb01:14
demianmaxmylastmorning: i'd stick with deb files though, much easier01:14
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Casiushttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72022 - can't get ubuntu to startup on the live cd, can anybody help?01:15
dooglusis there a czech #ubuntu anywhere?01:16
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Kris_kdoes AmaroK do .pls ?01:16
jenocinamorok plays music01:17
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demianmaxKris_k: yeah it does .pls playlist files01:17
KenseyAnybody else here been trying to get a Ralink 2500-based USB device to work with AES?01:17
Kris_kwhen trying to do a radio station .pls it says buffering but keeps rebuffering over and over01:18
demianmaxhas anyone come across this error install perl modules from cpan? 'mkdir /usr/local/man: File exists at /usr/share/perl/5.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 112'01:18
dooglusdemianmax: someone was asking about that just a few minutes ago.  It seems quite common.01:18
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dooglusdemianmax: did you try installing the modules using apt-get instead?01:19
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demianmaxdooglus: it's not in the repository01:21
joe__how do i add someone to the sudo list?01:21
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naliothjoe__: system > admin > users and groups01:21
demianmaxdooglus: I was trying to build a package with dh-make-perl01:21
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joe__nalioth, um, the initial user doesn't have the ability (long story), what is the text command?01:21
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naliothjoe__: you got to be kiddin me01:22
Kris_kokay Armork is playing the .pls but i cant hear it hmm lol01:22
demianmaxdooglus: then i gave up, i need it (this is my work dev machine) so i've tried make install, cpan, they all have the same error01:22
joe__nalioth, it's okay i have root access01:22
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Cashelhowdies.... anyone running Apache2 will SSL?? Cant seem to find the mod-ssl package in breezy's repos....01:22
naliothjoe__: "man visudo"01:22
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dooglusdemianmax: which package?01:23
mylastmorninghow do I uninstall doom 3?01:23
IorGieHow do I start PureFTPD at bootup?01:23
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TokenBadhow do I set the pacific time in kubuntu?01:24
demianmaxdooglus: Benchmark::Timer01:24
TokenBadshoot01:24
TokenBadwrong channel01:24
dooglusok, i'll try it01:24
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dooglus(is it possible to get gnome-terminal to automatically copy selected text to the copy/paste buffer?01:24
bimberiCasius: hard to know what's wrong, give some of the boot options (press F1 at the boot prompt) a try01:24
dooglusif the window is scrolling, it's hard to hit 'copy' before the scroll unselects it)01:25
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joe__nalioth, hmm, okay i added the account, thanks !01:25
demianmaxdooglus: i don't know, that would be nice.01:25
mylastmorningnalioth, how do I uninstall doom 3 it is a .run file.01:25
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thefoothi01:25
Casiusbimberi: tried almost all of them, no help =\01:25
thefootanyone able to install VMTools w/ Ubuntu?01:25
dooglusdemianmax: xterm does it, so I guess it's not that hard.01:25
cafuego_mylastmorning: sh ./foo.run01:25
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dooglusalternatively, having the text stay selected as it scrolls would be OK, but since irssi is a curses app, maybe it's not possible01:26
cafuego_mylastmorning: 'sh ./foo.run --help' even, it might have an uninstall flag.01:26
joe__hahahaha, the command nice outputs 001:26
funkyHatdo i need to set user_xattr for my /home partition to use beagle?01:26
CasiusIs it possible the startup hanging is because of the graphics card. I had the same kind of problem when I was installing XP, so I went into safemode and put on the omega drivers. I don't know anything like that with ubuntu though01:26
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demianmaxhaving two copy/paste buffers is just irritating sometimes though01:26
cafuego_dooglus: just scroll up in irssi, that makes it stop scrolling.01:26
babooni have just been reading about the file association mess and my head hurts.01:26
cafuego_demianmax: Agreed. I prefer 3 :-)  (screen)01:27
naliothmylastmorning: unfortunately, if you've run it, i'm sure you have q3 stuff littering your system01:27
baboonis there really not an easy way to make vlc instead of totem open when i double click on an .mpg file?01:27
doogluscafuego_: ok, good point.  but in general, I'd like not to have to hit the complicated key sequence I've mapped 'copy' to01:27
naliothbaboon: right click on nautilus and select the properties or open with or whatever01:27
funkyHatbaboon, of course there is, right click on any mpg file, and click properties01:27
baboonit appears old versions of gnome had a gui for this but the current one doesn't because of the free desktop standard. is this correct?01:27
cevizoglubaboon, go to application helpers and change it01:27
funkyHatoo, sorry nalioth :P01:27
xenahii01:28
dooglusdemianmax: you using the latest version, 0.7100?01:28
baboonapplication helpers?01:28
cafuego_baboon: right click an mpg file, choose Properties, click the 'Open with...' tab.01:28
marskaHowdy.. Trying to play Wesnoth online, but the version available is out of date.. Um.. How do I find an updated version? Sure its available for Debian01:28
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CashelCasius, wasnt following your problem, is your machine booting but freezing after all the dmesg stuff?01:28
cevizoglubaboon, System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications01:28
baboondoes the "open with" dialog have the ability to change it for all .mpg files?01:28
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cafuego_baboon: Why don't you check and see?01:28
CasiusDon't know about dmesg, but it was loading the OS components01:28
cevizoglubaboon, oops, ignore me01:28
xena>>01:28
Cashelbaboon, it adds whatever you add, right click properties on an mpg to set the default..01:28
doogluscafuego_: I just thought of a problem with your suggestion...  if I scroll up, then the text I want to copy disappears off the bottom!!01:28
babooncevizoglu, preferred applications doesn't set preferred applications for file types. Only web,email,terminal.01:28
xenafire01:28
cevizoglubaboon, read above01:29
baboonok01:29
cafuego_dooglus: Wait for a moment until you scroll up? ;-)01:29
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funkyHatyes, the open with tab is for all files of the same type01:29
xenagg01:29
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[A] ndy80a note for the OP's: the tinyurl in the topic points to Colony 5 while Preview is available01:29
doogluscafuego_: what if the room isn't scrolling very often - only (in a 'sod's law' kind of way) just when you're about to hit 'copy'?01:29
lsuactiafnerdooglus : lol01:29
marskaHowdy.. Trying to play Wesnoth online, but when I go online, says I require version 1.0 (I'm running 9.7 which seems to be the only one available through apt). Is there something I'm missing?01:30
demianmaxdooglus: yeah, although i just got the 0.6.1 version to install01:30
cafuego_dooglus: I run irssi in screen; that way you just hit ^a-esc to make it stop at any point01:30
funkyHatdo i need to set user_xattr for my /home partition to use beagle?01:30
[A] ndy80is Colony 5 newer than Preview?01:30
CashelCasius, to get a command prompt only working, you can pass the 'single' boot option to the grub loader, then when it lets you log in, you can mv /etc/init.d/gdm ~/ so it doesnt try to load X by default...01:30
geppyI was working on setting up a squid proxy on my Ubuntu Hoary box, and set up squid, ran `ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 promisc up` and ` ifconfig eth1 0.0.0.0 promisc up`;  now my box doesn't have internet any more01:30
doogluscafuego_: I run irssi in screen too.  hmmm01:30
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baboonCashel, cevizoglu, thanks for the assistence01:30
geppyI've uninstalled squid and rebooted, run ifup, run ifdown, and run out of ideas01:30
CasiusOkay, I'll try that in a little bit01:30
dooglusdidn't think of using copy/paste mode as a way to stop the scrolling.01:30
cafuego_dooglus: well then01:30
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baboonso can someone show me where it's stored on disk now? just cause i'm curious.01:31
funkyHatthat setting?01:31
babooni get the impression it's under /usr/share/application-registry but i can't find where anything is mapped to totem in there.01:31
marskaSo no one is familiar with Wesnoth?01:31
cafuego_baboon: ~/.gconf(d)01:31
funkyHatit will be in your nautilus settings...01:31
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dooglusdemianmax: no problem at all installing the newest version.01:32
cafuego_baboon: Good luck with that mess of XML files... it's as much joy as the windows registry.01:32
dooglusdemianmax: using "perl Makefile.PL && make && make test && make install"01:32
dooglusdemianmax: Installing /usr/local/man/man3/Benchmark::Timer.3pm01:32
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babooncafuego, yeah i see that. thanks for showing me where it is though.01:33
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cafuego_hint: install cpan stuff via dh-make-perl.01:33
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OmarkjI'm having a probelm with a fan-always-on problem in Breezy on a TP R52, any information ?01:34
funkyHatare extended attributes enabled in the kernel in breezy?01:34
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demianmaxdooglus: you running breezy?01:34
gimcohello01:34
dooglusyeah01:34
dooglusyou?01:35
CashelSo, is there a mod_ssl package for Apache2 in breezy? Anyone? Can't seem to find any under any sensible name...01:35
demianmaxyeah01:35
demianmaxweird, i must have messed something up, most likely something to do with my man directories01:36
demianmaxi'll try to find the diff with my home box. thanks for the help.01:36
dooglusok...  (not that I helped at all)01:36
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glickhi all01:37
demianmaxdooglus: well since it works for someone else i know that the error is my fault not someone elses01:38
crispynixCashel: maybe it's not longer a mod? apache-ssl exists01:38
dooglusCashel: how about "apache-ssl"???01:38
OmarkjIt seems to be something related to both IBM ACPI as well as Breezy since I did not have this problem in Hoary.01:38
Cashelapache-ssl is for apache 1.301:38
Cashelrunning apache 2..01:38
crispynixsorry :)01:38
dooglusCashel: "libapache-mod-ssl" then?01:38
mxpxpoddoes anyone know how to set up dns2go on ubuntu?01:38
Cashelnot at all...01:38
dooglus(and "libapache-mod-ssl-doc"01:38
Deterministwhich sound driver would be of best quality? the one bmp is using sounds like shit, nothing to be compared with the windows XP sound quality :/01:39
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Cashelseems to be for 1.3 as well... I was wondering if you had to use the old stuff but apache2 doc's say no and the folks in ubuntu-motu arent answering (I am no doubt not unworthy :P )01:39
demianmaxwouldn't it be libapache2-mod-ssl?01:40
Determinist!w32codecs01:40
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)01:40
dooglusCashel: that's a quadruple negative01:40
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thefootso... anyone able to install VMTools within Ubuntu?01:41
puffI would like to be able to view Quicktime or Windows Media or RealPlayer files.01:41
Casheldooglus, hmm?01:41
demianmaxah, the apache2-common deb has the ssl-mod01:41
naliothubotu: tell puff about restricted01:41
glickexcuse me01:41
glickim trying to figure out how to make all of my data available everywhere01:42
glicki have 1 highspeed cable line01:42
Cashelummm , apache2 is saying it doesnt recognize the ssl registers...01:42
dooglusCashel: "no doubt" is a double negative, meaning "surely".  and "not unworthy" is another double negative, meaning "worthy".  So you reckon you're surely worthy?01:42
glickNATed01:42
glicka 250gig firewire portable harddrive and a server machine with a gig of ram a p3 cpu and 150 gig harddrive space01:42
Cashellol I edited that line and forgot to delete, heh01:42
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glickbesides having access to all of my data from anywhere id also like to run ssh and cvs on the server01:43
CashelInvalid command 'SSLCipherSuite', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration01:43
CashelAny ideas?01:43
demianmaxcashel: if you have apache2-common then you have mod_ssl, perhaps it's not enabled? or your config is wrong?01:43
puffnalioth:  The ubuntu realplayer package is out of date, and a search turns up no occurrence of "quick".  "Windows" only shows a reference to windows Itunes in the itunes section.01:43
IorGieglick: just install any ftp deamon01:44
demianmax(sorry it's been a while since i used apache...every since i tried lighttpd out actually)01:44
glickshould i keep my firewire drive attached to my laptop or should i attach it to my server01:44
Cashelhow does one enable it? I was following the instructions for config and it didnt mention anything but the config.. ?01:44
demianmaxs/every/ever/01:44
puffnalioth: How about http://www.linuxforums.org/tutorials/1/tutorial-25783.html01:44
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OmarkjDoes anybody know how to change between power safe modes manually ?01:45
puffnalioth: Hm, that looks like it's for warthog.01:45
glicki figure if i run all these services on my laptop01:45
demianmaxcashel: if i remember correctly you need to put a link to the mod in the mods-available folder in the mods-enabled folder01:45
glickand take away the NAT router01:45
glickit will make my pc very vulnerable01:45
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IorGieglick: you can set up a ftpd behind a nat without a pain01:46
Kris_kwhen trying to build from the source i get this error checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables01:46
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glickIorGie, i have a laptop with a combined ram of 1 gig a 2.4 gig cpu, and 40gig internal drive and a 250 gig external drive01:46
anethemahey Kris_k01:46
glicki figure why not make that a server01:47
anethemaever get the ati thing working01:47
glickand my work machine01:47
naliothKris_k: install 'build-essential'01:47
glickbut then im like thats dangerous01:47
glickis it not?01:47
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frogmanhello01:47
Casheldemianmax! AHH! Now you'd think the apache2 > ssl documentation would have mentioned that little fact, hehe thanks a ton..01:47
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fmasi_Ei where is the mysql root password stored wen i finish instaling it by apt ?01:48
demianmaxcashel: no prob...i'm impressed with myself that i remembered that...not even having apache installed on this machine. but i went through the same thing you just did.01:48
keikozhi$01:48
demianmaxcashel: guess it stuck in my head01:48
naliothpuff: that is a very old howto01:48
funkyHatfmasi_, in the database named 'mysql'01:48
frogmani just heard about ubuntu having a picture of semi-naked people. is it the welcome screen here? http://www.monkeyc.net.nyud.net:8090/ubuntu/nu-ubuntu1.jpg (yes, i realise its old news)01:48
puffnalioth: Yeah, I'm figuring that out :-).01:48
fmasi_funkyHat in ubuntu how do i start stop a service ? i used to redhat01:49
Cashelyeah I was buggin out, in the old apache I didnt have to do it.... maybe it was preconfigured tho.... hard to say since I toasted it long ago, he01:49
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glickis that not dangerous?01:49
funkyHatfmasi_, have a look for the script for that service in /etc/init.d01:49
glickif i do what i am thinking of doing?01:49
fmasi_funkyHat then i can add start at end of it ?01:49
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naliothfrogman: those people have clothes on01:50
funkyHatyes, start stop or restart usually work01:50
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funkyHatdepending on the script01:50
fmasi_funkyHat ok thx01:50
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imterrohey guys, what is a wpa_supplicant package?01:50
funkyHat:)01:50
frogmannevermind. i found it. damn. i started using ubuntu too late and missed the naked people surprise01:50
demianmaxcashel: yeah the old apache you had a list of mods in the httpd.conf file, so you had to add it here, now you just put them in the mods-enabled directory01:50
naliothfrogman: install all the "ubuntu-calendar" packages01:50
frogmani just incremented the image title to nu-ubuntu3.jpg01:51
demianmaxcashel: a much better system i think01:51
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SurakHello, I would like to ask about issues with grub and ubuntu on big hard drives01:52
Surakis anyone aware of it?01:52
imterrocan anyone tell me?01:52
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imterrowpa_supplicant package? any ideas what it is?01:52
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funkyHatsomething to do with WiFi authentication?01:53
Surakyes01:53
imterroahh sweet01:53
imterrothanks01:53
SurakWPA and WPA2 are methods for securing wireless networks, the former01:53
Surakusing IEEE 802.1X, and the latter using IEEE 802.11i. This software01:53
Surakprovides key negotiation with the WPA Authenticator, and controls01:53
Surakassociation with IEEE 802.11i networks.01:53
imterroso it would be good to have hten :P01:53
imterroSurak, thankks so much01:53
frogmannice01:54
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glickhey if  de-NAT myself i will need a firewall wont i?01:54
puffHm, w32codecs package.01:54
naliothSurak: please dont paste in here01:54
naliothubotu: tell puff about w32codecs01:55
Deterministhow can i allow a user (mine) to write to a partition that was mounted under /mnt/winxpdat/ , it keeps saying i have no permissions to do this01:55
crimsunDeterminist: you need to pass umask=022 to mount01:55
Kenseyglick: or a SELinux or OpenBSD system :)01:55
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Deterministcrimsun, thanks01:55
frogmanits more like conservative artistic expression of naked people than porno in my opinion..01:55
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Determinist!fstab01:55
ubotuDeterminist: Syntax error in line 101:55
jbalintHow do I make the items on the taskbar not group together.01:55
Deterministerm01:55
glickhmm i dont know much about setting up firewalls :(01:56
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Deterministwhat's the url for that fstab auto mounter?01:56
Deterministthe script... that is01:56
KenseyDeterminist: you have to have ntfs write support in the kernel first01:56
DeterministKensey, fat32 :)01:56
Kenseyew! :P01:56
Deterministew?01:56
Deterministas in ntfs is better?01:56
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Deterministhow is it better, pray tell?01:56
glickis there anyway i can set up ssh on two different systems behind a NAT?01:57
demianmaxuh...isn't ntfs write support still very beta01:57
thefootDoes default Ubuntu installation install make?01:57
Kenseydemian: oh yeah.01:57
Deterministdemianmax, it is01:57
crimsunglick: yes, but you need to forward ports on the machine doing the NATing01:57
demianmaxas in, kernel ntfs support might corrupt the filesystem01:57
frogmanglick: port-forwarding on your router's firewall01:57
KenseyDet: NTFS is a journaling filesystem01:57
RouninAnyone here successfully used the SCIM line of input methods in Breezy yet?01:57
glickcrimsun, yes but ssh by default runs on port 2201:57
glickso one of them will have to run on the nondefault port right?01:57
concept10thefoot, no01:57
Kenseyit's much more tolerant of things like power failures that interrupt disk operations01:57
puffnalioth: Odd, aptitude search w32codec turned it up, but aptitude install w32codecs said "no candidate"01:57
DeterministKensey, ntfs adds permissions and encryption support. for the avrage home user it has no benefit.01:57
imterrohmm all these guides want me to reboot my linux... weird hey01:58
imterro?01:58
crimsunglick: that's irrelevant. What you need to do is forward port X on your firewall to port 22 on one machine, and say X+Y to port 22 on the other01:58
thefootconcept10:  how would i install a C complier?01:58
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cafuego_demianmax: As in kernel ntfs (writing) WILL corrupt the filesystem01:58
crimsunglick: where Y!=001:58
Kenseyin any case, I suppressed all my memories of dealing with FAT32 disk issues.  they were just too painful.01:58
demianmaxcafuego_: ha, ok, well that "might" is the reason i never used it.01:58
Deterministnever had no issues with fat32...01:58
concept10thefoot, sudo apt-get install build-essential01:58
Kenseybut one thing I do know, various drivers automagically restrict permissions on the filesystems mounted using them01:59
concept10!be01:59
ubotusudo apt-get install build-essential01:59
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Kenseyf'rex, ntfs partitions by default are mounted with read permission for root only01:59
frogmanit'd be a good idea to have ssh running on a nonstandard port anyways so port scanners have to work a little harder01:59
cafuego_Kensey: On Linux? No, they just use a sane default on filesystems that don't support ANY ownership .01:59
babooncafuego, the "open with" didn't set it for all files of that type.01:59
concept10hmm, didnt know that was there02:00
Kenseyso you will want to put an option in your fstab to mount it with a umask appropriate to what you want02:00
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baboonit appears to stick for the individual file, but not others with the same extension02:00
Determinist!ubotu fat3202:00
uboturumour has it, fat32 is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab02:00
cafuego_baboon: That's naughty. It should of.02:00
glickhey does dsl offer static multiple ip addresses to customers?02:00
KenseyI think for my ntfs I did something like put umask=0222 in the mount options02:00
Whyvasis there a better wireless connection manager than the one that comes with breezy??02:01
frogmanusually for like $5 per ip02:01
crispynixglick: depends on the isp, and some may charge extra02:01
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cafuego_glick: dsl is a protocol. Did you have an isp in mind?02:01
thefootconcept10:  do i need access to internet?02:01
glicki kow roadrunner charges extra02:01
baboonit seems like that dialog ought to have a checkbox for "always use this program for this type of file" like windows does.02:01
glickcafuego, verison02:01
cafuego_glick: no idea then02:01
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concept10thefoot, to install b-e?02:01
cafuego_glick: Probably on a business (= expensive) account, I'd expect.02:01
thefootconcept10:  yes02:02
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Hendricgud morning everyone... just woke up. hehe02:02
concept10thefoot, i would imagine so, unless its on the cdrom which I don t know.02:02
KenseyDeterminist: are you mounting it ro or rw in fstab?02:02
`psychohi ppl02:03
`psychois there somwhere a list of scsi controllers that are supported by linux/ubuntu ?02:03
concept10\quit02:03
`psycholol02:03
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Hendrici found some annoying problems with LVM... 1) you can't grub-install on it. 2) you can't ghost it on smaller drives.02:04
Kenseyanybody able to point me at a HOWTO or offer advice for moving a directory structure physically from one partition to another?02:04
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anethemause nautilus02:04
anethemahehe02:04
anethemaedit-cut02:04
puffnalioth: Hm, which mplayer package should I install?  I'm on a 586 machine, but I'm running the stock  ubuntu kernel (until Breezy is officially released, then I do this whole dance all over again - I'm taking notes this time around :-).02:04
anethemaedit-past02:04
anethemae02:04
glickscrew it i think ill just setup ssh on my laptop with a free domain name from dyndns02:04
glickim a poor college student02:04
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glicki dont have the time or the money to set up fancy home networks02:05
KenseyI assumer I boot in single-user mode, mount the filesystems, copy the files over, remove them from the old drive, and edit /etc/fstab as appropriate?02:05
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glicki just want to be able to access my lappie from campus02:05
glickcause i usually dont take it anywhere02:05
puffglick: Static IPs, etc, are all highly variable depending on the service and plan you have;  very uncommon in cable, but possible in DSL, most often requires a fee.02:05
DeterministKensey, rw02:05
puffglick: Most people that I know just use dyndns.02:05
dooglusKensey: that's about it.  but use 'tar' instead of 'cp', 'cos it knows about dates, owners, groups, permissions, symlinks, et.02:05
glickpuff, yeah ill just use dyndns02:05
dooglusc.02:05
DeterministKensey, any idea how to make mount reprocess fstab?02:05
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Avenhi02:05
zer0`mount -a02:06
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Avenhow do I login as "root" in ubuntu?02:06
DeterministAven, you dont02:06
dooglususe sudo instead02:06
Aven...02:06
concept10!rootsudo02:06
Avenwell, some programs require me to login as root02:06
uboturootsudo is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:06
DeterministAven, as your default user just use sudo at the command line, that'll provide root privileges02:06
Kenseythere's a remount option to mount02:06
Avenwhat's the command? :P02:06
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QuinthiusAven: you can do something like "sudo -s -H"02:07
concept10Aven, read the page02:07
DeterministAven, sudo <command you need root permissions for>02:07
Hendricdooglus, any ideas on resizing my LVM drive without compromising my system???02:07
dooglusHendric: nope, sorry.02:07
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Whyvasis there a better wireless connection manager than the one that comes with breezy??02:07
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dooglusHendric: crappy old notebook here, no LVM.02:07
Kenseyas root, try mount -o remount <whatever>02:07
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concept10Whyvas, wifi-radar02:08
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Hendricdooglus: how about transferring everything to a non LVM partition?? any help?02:08
Whyvasthanks02:08
Kenseythat should reread the flags from /etc/fstab and remount the drive with updated flags02:08
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Hendricdooglus: i can't reinstall to a new FS since i had it customized that i can't remember them all02:08
knoppixhi!02:08
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OeaaI'm having a problem with hoary...02:09
thefoot"Please either recompile your kernel with "usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config-tools.pl with CC environment variable point to teh "gcc" version "3.4.5"02:09
OeaaOut of nowhere getting kernel panic on boot.02:09
OeaaHad to boot with knoppix02:09
thefoothow do i change teh CC environmental var02:09
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KenseyOeaa: you haven't recompiled your kernel or changed menu.lst?02:09
Oeaanope02:09
Oeaadidn't change anything02:10
Oeaathe only thing I can think of, is I had auto download updates checked02:10
Oeaaand it was updating kernel, someone rebooted my machine?02:10
Oeaaonly thing i can think of02:10
QuinthiusOeaa: would help to know what error it's panicking on :P02:10
Oeaahold on02:10
Oeaai will show you02:10
Quinthiusthefoot: export CC="/path/to/gcc"02:10
Kenseythe first thing that comes to mind is, missing hardware or filesystem driver for the boot partition, that's what seems to be the cause of most panics02:10
puffHm, I guess I'll try out mplayer-586, I can always remove it and go to mplayer-386.02:10
OeaaVFS: iunable to mount root filesystem02:10
Kenseyyep02:11
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Oeaamy lilo.conf has root=/dev/hda202:11
Oeaawhich is right02:11
Oeaadon't understand what is going on heh02:11
Kenseywhat filesystem and bus type?02:11
QuinthiusOeaa: no other information that could pertain to the error?02:11
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mylastmorninghi all02:11
QuinthiusOeaa: like any errors from "mount" or anything?02:11
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UnIDatanew release (5.10) when ?02:12
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tristanmikeUnIData, Oct 1302:12
Oeaanope02:12
Kris_khow to mount a windows system thats on another hd on my computer ?02:12
UnIDatathx02:12
Oeaajust02:12
mylastmorning!repositories02:12
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))02:12
OeaaPlease append a correct "root=" boot option.02:12
OeaaVFS: Cannot open root device "/dev/hda2" or unknown-block02:12
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IorGieKris_k: see ubuntuguide.org02:12
paddygmanLO02:12
paddygmanANYONE IN HERE02:12
thefoothmm so if i need gcc3.4 where can i get it from02:13
crimsunfrom pool02:13
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propagandhiOeaa: have you tried using grub02:13
KenseyI think that's the same thing I got when I compiled a kernel with IDE modularized and no initrd02:13
crimsun(it's in the archive)02:13
paddygmanNEED A BUT OF HELP02:13
Oeaapropagandhi,02:13
QuinthiusOeaa: that's a little more helpful :)02:13
HendricLVM sucks bigtime.. can anyone help me?02:13
Oeaagrub wouldn't install02:13
Oeaa:(02:13
Oeaawhen i installed ubuntu02:13
crimsunpaddygman: your caps key is STUCK02:13
Oeaahad to go with lilo02:13
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paddygmansorry mate02:13
OeaaQuinthius,  common pproblem?02:13
OeaaI can't for the life of me figure it out02:13
IorGieHendric: tell me02:13
Oeaaheh02:13
paddygmanapologies all rounf02:13
paddygmangot a prob tryin to update02:13
paddygmanappears that some program that i cannot locate will not allow the update system to get a lock02:14
HendricIorGie: how can i grub-install on an LVM drive? since /dev/mapper does not correspond to a BIOS device02:14
QuinthiusOeaa: no clue, but that is just a bit more descriptive... maybe the root= line it's looking for is the one you pass to the kernel, which might be different than lilo's root option...02:14
paddygmanany thoughts02:14
kevogodpaddygman, Close Synaptic.02:14
Oeaalilo's root option is correct02:14
paddygmanhow02:14
OeaaIt's as always02:14
KenseyOeaa, I'm wondering.  Did you have an initrd before?02:14
thefoothow woudl i recompile my kernel using gcc4.0?02:14
OeaaAs its always been02:14
Oeaayeah Ken02:14
paddygmanhave no programs that i can see open02:14
Oeaait booted fine before02:14
glickdoes anyone know a good dyndns update client for clients that are nat'd02:14
glick?02:14
crimsunthefoot: don't. Use gcc-3.4.02:14
OeaaI think the problem  is not having an initrd tho02:14
melonHey , my gnome 2.12.1 not for Add/Remove Programs , Ubuntu Breezy Badger02:14
QuinthiusOeaa: maybe so, but i'm talking about the root= that is passed on the kernel line...02:15
IorGieHendric: doesnt grub install in the MBR and has nothing to do with lvm?02:15
demianmaxthefoot: you should be able to get that gcc version from apt, then you can run 'make CC=/path/to/gcc-3.x.x'02:15
HendricIorGie: any ideas?02:15
OeaaI -think- it was in the middle of a kernel update, and you know how you have to interact with it?02:15
eythianglick: I use no-ip.com and there is a no-ip program in ubuntu to update it02:15
Kenseyyeah, your initrd may have gone walkabout02:15
OeaaOpe nthe terminal , et cetera02:15
crimsunpaddygman: which program?02:15
demianmaxor just set the environment var02:15
OeaaI -think- my box got rebooted02:15
paddygmandoesnt say02:15
Oeaain the middle of that02:15
thefootdemianmax:  how do i use apt to find the correct version?02:15
Oeaaonly thing i could think of02:15
paddygmandamn forgotten all my / for irc02:15
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Kenseysee if lilo's idea of the initrd name is the same as the initrd that exists on there now02:15
demianmaxthefoot: which one did you need again? ie. what was the error message?02:15
thefoot"Please either recompile your kernel with "usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config-tools.pl with CC environment variable point to teh "gcc" version "3.4.5"02:16
HendricIorGie: thats d point.. how can i grub-install if grub cannot locate d drive that it can boot... since its an LVM partition02:16
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Kenseyif the initrd name changed during the upgrade but lilo never got uipdated, that would be an issue.02:16
kevogodWhen I drag and drop a file or folder from Nautilus to the GNOME Terminal, should it not escape spaces in the path?02:16
Oeaawhere is the intrid located?  /lib/modules/kernel name/02:16
Oeaa?02:16
QuinthiusOeaa: look for a kernel line, something like "/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-k7 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash" etc...02:16
Oeaaok02:16
Kenseyor if the initrd got updated but the kernel didn't, you could have issues with version mismatching.02:16
eriscoalright i am playing wesnoth... hurrah. it is a pretty cool game.... gets hard really quickly. anyone else know some larger games like that for linux>02:16
Kenseyinitrd is usually in /boot02:16
QuinthiusOeaa: because "root" to a boot loader isn't always the same as the "root" option that you pass to the kernel02:16
propagandhithefoot: do 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 - then run vmware config again02:17
aukeight days...02:17
thefootpropagandhi:  i'm looking in my usr/bin folder and there is no gcc-3.402:17
ssamerisco, freeciv02:17
demianmaxgcc-3.4 is in the regular apt repos02:17
propagandhithefoot: ok, in that case02:17
QuinthiusOeaa: so make sure there is a root= option on the kernel line..02:17
crimsunkevogod: file a wishlist bug02:17
Hendricerisco: doom3 ?02:17
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propagandhithefoot: do apt-get install gcc-3.402:17
thefootthanks02:17
glickdo they have anything for dyndns?02:18
demianmaxthefoot: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.402:18
OeaaQuinthius,02:18
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OeaaIn the lilo.conf?02:18
OeaaSorry, i'm kinda newto linux02:18
Oeaahehe02:18
eythiananyone know if it's possible to get random background image switching in gnome?02:18
QuinthiusOeaa: i assume so. not too familiar with lilo02:18
TiMiDoeythian nope02:18
demianmaxeythian: yes it is02:18
Oeaathe intrid it points to is just intrid.img02:18
kevogodThis is my favorite bug --> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/102:18
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QuinthiusOeaa: i just know in grub there is a "root" option that refers to the root of the BOOT partition, and is seperate from the "root=" option on the kernel line02:18
TiMiDolol (:02:18
eythiandemianmax, how?02:18
demianmaxeythian, i found an old panel applet that did that for me02:18
IorGieHendric: and you can not acces it bij using /dev/<volumegroup>/<lvname>/ ?02:19
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eythianah, OK. do you know the name?02:19
Oeaathe intrid that lilo.conf points to, is the same02:19
Oeaathat is on the drive02:19
demianmaxeythian: can't remember the name, but i had to complile it myself, it was annoying, and it crashed it you left clicked on it, but it worked02:19
Kris_kokay so i mount the hard drive but then i dont have permission to view the contents of it ?????02:19
demianmaxeythian: i'll look again, can't remember off the top of my head02:19
eythianheh OK, cheers02:19
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QuinthiusOeaa: can you paste your lilo.conf to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ ?02:20
Oeaasure02:20
paddygmananyone any ideas as to a problem with updates  "unable to get an exclusive lock" is the error02:20
Oeaaanyone know the vi hotkey for select all?02:20
Oeaa:)02:20
misfit_toywell, hell, amarok is now broken in the latest update02:20
Quinthiuspaddygman: have synaptic running?02:20
paddygmanno02:20
crimsunmisfit_toy: how so?02:20
demianmaxeythian: oh wait, someone just told me about this way to do it: http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=602:20
imterrohow can i determine my bluetooth device/02:20
demianmaxeythian: haven't tried it but give that a shot02:21
IorGiepaddygman: and trying to run ap-get at the same time?02:21
misfit_toycrimsun, amaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.02:21
misfit_toyamaroK: [Loader]  amarokapp probably crashed!02:21
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eythiandemianmax, cheers, will have a go02:21
Quinthiuspaddygman: or any other apt-related program?02:21
crimsunmisfit_toy: 1.3.1-0ubuntu4 works fine.02:21
Kris_kokay so i mount the hard drive but then i dont have permission to view the contents of it ?????02:21
thefootWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?02:21
bimberipaddygman: ps x | grep apt   <- to see if there's a hidden apt related process running02:21
misfit_toycrimsun, I tried removing and readding, no luck, weird, this happened after the latest breezy updates today02:22
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Quinthiusthefoot: you need to install linux-headers for your kernel (i.e. linux-headers-k7 if you use linux-image-k7)02:22
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imterroguys how can i find out what type of bluetooth card i have?02:22
puffWell, that was a pointleses exercise, mplayer wants the file or URL, and the site I was going to watch wants me to play it in my browser.02:22
TiMiDoimterro lspci02:22
thefootQuinthus:  how do i do that and how do i know which linux image?02:22
puffWhat's generally recommended for adding mplayer-like stuff to firefox?02:22
HendricIorGie: during the "rescue" mode... it asks me to mount on a root partition. after doing so.. it shows me /dev/mapper/domain-root <-- but can't grub-install since it tries to find d BIOS device02:23
mahangupuff, you mean firefox extensions?02:23
kevogodI like that Epiphany extensions take effect immediately.02:23
Quinthiusthefoot: do "uname -r", it should end in -k7, -386, -686 etc02:23
eythiandemianmax, OK, that method kinda works, but I think I'll write my own script using it.02:23
puffmahangu: nah, I mean for installing the right player to play it "in browser".02:23
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Quinthiusthefoot: then just install the proper headers package from synaptic..02:23
thefootQuin: 2.6.12-8-38602:23
puffSome googling turns up some old posts that refer to mplayer-plugin, or alterantively mozplugger, w32codecs and totem-xine.02:24
Quinthiusthefoot: or: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-38602:24
IorGieHendric: maper is not good you shouls have the name of the volume group you created02:24
cevizogluis it possible to make the new OEM Windows XP on Thinkpads coexist with Ubuntu Linux?  Doesn't seem like it, since the first drive needs to be Linux but Windows must be first as well02:24
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IorGieHendric: A volume group are one ore more HardDisks02:25
crimsuncevizoglu: yes, it works fine02:25
Oeaaok02:25
OeaaI have my lilo.conf02:25
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Oeaahttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/280602:25
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puffcevizoglu: I'm using ubuntu on a t43p, no problems at all.02:25
crimsuncevizoglu: the installer resizes NTFS transparently02:25
Loki_VAhi ppl02:25
kevogodcevizoglu, The bootloader should take care of that cevizoglu.02:25
TiMiDoLoki_VA hello02:25
Loki_VAi have a problem with the hoary ubuntu live disc02:25
TiMiDoLoki_VA what's wrong?02:25
Loki_VAit keeps hanging on dhcp.. can i disable this?02:25
HendricIorGie: so how will i see my volum groups on terminal??02:26
puffcevizoglu: That is, no problems at all with dualboot.  I'm having a few minor problems with suspend-to-disk.02:26
Loki_VAThere is no dhcp on this network so i dont need it..02:26
QuinthiusOeaa: what's with all the knoppix stuff in there?02:26
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cevizogluI must have messed up.. Windows won't boot... did you select automatic partition?02:26
puffI wish I'd gotten the atheros wireless instead of the intel. Ah well.02:26
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Oeaawhat knoppix stuff?02:26
Anak1n!fluxbox02:26
TiMiDoLoki_VA then when it ask you to configured, the dhcp configured it later,02:26
ubotuit has been said that fluxbox is forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net02:26
propagandhithat must be the knoppix cd lilo.conf?02:26
TiMiDothere's an option for that Loki_VA02:26
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Oeaahmm02:27
Oeaawtf02:27
Oeaaweird02:27
Oeaai just booted knoppix cause i can't get into hoary02:27
Oeaalol02:27
Rodiknoppix is linux with boot via cd-rom, can run linux and dont need install02:27
paddygmanany other suggestions to my prob upgrading02:27
Loki_VATiMiDo: whats the kernel option? because I dont get a choice, it just trys dhcp before i get any options..02:27
IorGieHendric: use pvscan to see which drives are in wich volumegroup02:27
puffcevizoglu: Harrumm... no, I'm pretty sure I chose manual.02:27
Oeaaoh...02:27
slyuh it was hard but this ubuntu sounds good02:27
OeaaQuin02:27
Oeaahold on02:27
Oeaai gave you the wrong conf i think02:27
puffcevizoglu: I think that's one of the few bits of the install process that they could smooth out.02:27
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QuinthiusOeaa: then you need to mount your ubuntu drive under like /mnt/ubuntu and then check /mnt/ubuntu/etc/lilo.conf02:27
Oeaayeah02:27
IorGieHendric: see also http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO02:27
Oeaai have it mounted02:27
Oeaahold on my mistake02:28
Quinthiushehe02:28
HendricIorGie: i've read that02:28
TiMiDoLoki_VA if you wait like 3 minutes it will give up on it's sel02:28
TiMiDof02:28
Hendric5x02:28
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paddygmananyone02:28
cevizoglupuff, hmmm... I shouldn't have used partition magic, I guess02:28
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thefootafter i install linux-header-386 where would the location of those include files be02:28
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thefooterr I mean c header files02:28
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crimsunthefoot: you need linux-headers-$(uname -r)02:28
Loki_VAi tryed 'live nodhcp' to no avail02:28
paddygmananyway to check if apt-get or aptitude are running in the backgrounf02:28
Oeaaok02:28
paddygman-d02:28
Oeaahere is the hoary lilo.conf02:28
bimberipaddygman: ps x | grep apt   <- to see if there's a hidden apt related process running02:28
Oeaahttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/280702:28
TiMiDopaddygman ps x02:28
Loki_VAit has been sitting here for 10 mins i dont think its gonna give up02:29
IorGieHendric: I never installed unbuntu on to of an lvm, i use it to make one big /home from my second en third hard drive02:29
thefootcrimsun:  can u explain further02:29
HendricIorGie: why am i having this problem? i want to GHOST my system to another drive since i got 10 units here with same specs.. since GHOST doesn't copy MBR.. so i need to grub-install on them, as i usually do with non LVM linux system.02:29
Quinthiusthefoot: /usr/src/linux-headers-<version>02:29
propagandhipaddygman:  you dont have synaptic or any other form of apt running, and you're sure you're executing with sudo02:29
imterrohttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2808 <--- can anyone tell me which is my bluetooth? i have no idea02:29
Oeaahmm02:29
Oeaai guess iw ill just reinstall?02:30
Oeaathis is a headache :(02:30
crimsunthefoot: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)02:30
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imterrothefoot, are you trying to setup your wireless card?02:30
QuinthiusOeaa: hmm, is that a fairly default lilo.conf? like was the root= option way up there to begin with?02:30
Oeaayeah02:30
tamaleHi everyone, i just finished the install process, and after the first reboot (where it asks to take out the media) I'm getting a GRUB error (Error 18)  any ideas?02:31
Oeaai wonder02:31
Oeaacan i edit it to boot into an older kernel?02:31
IorGieHendric: i have no experience with that.02:31
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Oeaaso ubuntu can't mount root FS02:32
QuinthiusOeaa: sure, look at the section for /vmlinuz.old02:32
Oeaabut knoppix mounts it fine02:32
Oeaayeah i did02:32
Oeaait's not there02:32
Loki_VASo does anyone know the kernel option for the hoary live disc to disable dhcp?02:32
Oeaaheh02:32
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Oeaajust intrid.img and vmlinuz02:32
paddygmananyone any other ideas02:32
QuinthiusOeaa: i mean, use that as an example, make another section pointing to whatever your old kernel is02:32
Loki_VAit refuses to quit..02:32
Hendrici guess am having a "first time for everyone" problem about LVM...02:32
tamaleHi everyone, i just finished the install process, and after the first reboot (where it asks to take out the media) I'm getting a GRUB error (Error 18)  any ideas?02:33
propagandhipaddygman: you ARE running with sudo?02:33
QuinthiusOeaa: you have /dev/hda2 mounted under /mnt/ubuntu or something atm right?02:33
bimberipaddygman: did ps x.... show anything?02:33
Oeaayeah02:33
Oeaa/mnt/hda202:33
IorGieHendric: maybe there are other options besides lvm?02:33
QuinthiusOeaa: ok, is there a /mnt/hda2/initrd.img ?02:33
Oeaayes02:33
cddesjari am running kubuntu...how do i installl gnome?02:34
HendricIorGie: a lot indeed.. sadly i made a nearly perfect system for me.. on an LVM system..02:34
propagandhicddesjar: you could use synaptic, or sudo apt-get install gnome02:34
QuinthiusOeaa: is there anything under /boot ?02:34
QuinthiusOeaa: err /mnt/hda2/boot02:34
tamaleCan anyone help me with this Grub error?02:34
matwloki, did you try to kill the dhcpd process?02:34
HendricIorGie: since i can't install this way again (customized)... i need to ghost... and LVM is killing me02:34
Oeaaoh yeah02:34
Oeaaa lot02:34
glickall OS's suck some just suck more than others02:34
seifeYo i installed all codecs and .mp3 playing stuff02:34
hyphnatedtamale: from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/fr/grub-error-guide.xml .. "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds max supported by BIOS"02:34
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bimbericddesjar: installing the ubuntu-desktop package will get  you ubuntu's gnome environment02:35
benplautwhat would be the cli command to minimize all windows/show desktop?02:35
propagandhiglick: thats a nonsensical statement02:35
seifeNow its playing the song02:35
QuinthiusOeaa: you using the standard ubuntu kernels or manually compiled/installed?02:35
glickpropagandhi, not really02:35
seifebut i dont hear it.02:35
tamalethat's no good02:35
propagandhiglick: how so02:35
hyphnatedtamale: that means your BIOS can't seek far enough into the drive to find the file that grub told it to use02:35
Oeaastandard02:35
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tamaleyah02:35
Oeaaused the update manager for everything02:35
paddygmangettin error on sudo apt-get02:35
tamaleso why is grub looking so deep into the drive02:35
Oeaai think my computer got rebooted in the middle of ak ernel update tho02:35
Oeaabecause they are interactive02:35
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Oeaaand it woulda hanged until i came by02:35
Oeaaor a family member reset it02:35
glickall os's suck in some way, you just have to choose in what area you can afford it to suck and in what areas you cant afford it to suck02:35
QuinthiusOeaa: hmm02:35
Oeaain my boot dir there is initrd.img-2.6.10-5-k7 and the same for vmlinuz02:36
thefootthank you for the help, got vmtools installed successfully02:36
Oeaashould i use those to replace the ones in root dir?02:36
hyphnatedtamale: is this a fairly new machine, or a pretty old one?02:36
tamalesupermicro dual PIII server box02:36
QuinthiusOeaa: nah it looks like /vmlinuz and /initrd.img are already links to the real files in /boot anyway02:36
propagandhipaddygman: have you rebooted already, that should clear any lock02:36
Oeaasee, maybve the kernel update changes them02:36
Oeaafor the new kernel02:36
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Oeaabut since something happened02:36
Oeaathe new kernel wasn't installed02:37
QuinthiusOeaa: if the install was interrupted in the middle of copying files, then it's possible not all the proper v ersions of stuff got copied over02:37
matwI'm having trouble with Eclipse SDK. No help files and other stuff. Where should I go to get help?02:37
codenutcan i upgrade hegehog with breezy pree?02:37
imterroso where can i get cool wall papers?02:37
QuinthiusOeaa: like maybe the new vmlinuz got copied over but not initrd.img or something02:37
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Oeaaok02:37
doogluswhat's the best way to make a "linux boot disk" for emergency booting of ubuntu if grub/lilo gets messed up?02:37
Oeaai will try replacing them02:37
Oeaaand see what happens02:37
propagandhicodenut: yeah02:37
bimbericodenut: yes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade02:37
Oeaahmm they are the same file02:37
Oeaawhat cp tells me02:37
glicki wish there were a couple cool windows games i could play using wine02:37
robertjdooglus: use the LiveCD02:37
propagandhiglick: heard of cedega?02:38
QuinthiusOeaa: i would try doing a chroot into /dev/hda2 (chroot /dev/hda2 /bin/bash) then try using apt-get to reinstall the kernel02:38
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QuinthiusOeaa: err /mnt/hda2, sorry02:38
glickpropagandhi, yeah, but im poor02:38
imterrohey where can i get cool wallpapers?02:38
Oeaacan i use apt-get on knoppix?02:38
tamalehyphnated:  it's not OLD by any means i wouldn't think..  this is it:  http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/6010/SYS-6010L.cfm02:38
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propagandhiglick: but if you could get it free02:38
Hendricdooglus; use the CD.. then "rescue" then grub-install... make sure you don't have LVM02:38
propagandhi;)02:38
Hobbseeglick: you can compile it from source and get it free02:38
QuinthiusOeaa: no clue, but doesn't matter, you'll be running it from within your /mnt/hda2 filesystem... that's what chroot does02:38
hyphnatedtamale: you know your way around BIOS?02:38
demianmaxeythian: the name of that panel app was wallpaper-tray: 'http://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/wallpaper-tray'02:38
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tamaleyup02:38
dooglusrobertj, Hendric I don't have the CD - either of them02:38
tamalehyphnated:  yup02:38
Oeaahmm02:38
demianmaxeythian: but it's pretty old02:38
glickbut the free version isnt as good02:39
Oeaasays operation not permitted02:39
Hobbseeglick: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4502:39
glickits missing stuff02:39
propagandhiglick:http://www.tuxwarez.com/ but thats just between you and me squashed hat02:39
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Oeaaoh02:39
Oeaahad to sudo02:39
QuinthiusOeaa: chroot /mnt/hda2 /bin/bash = makes /mnt/hda2 act like /, and runs /bin/bash from within (i.e. /mnt/hda2/bin/bash)02:39
paddygmananyone kno anything about setting up counter strike servers on ubuntu02:39
hyphnatedtamale: check if the drive's mode is CHS or LBA02:39
Oeaaok02:39
eythiandemianmax, ah, cheers. I was half way through getting a perl script to do it :)02:39
Oeaathat is done02:39
tamaleok02:39
QuinthiusOeaa: make sure you use /mnt/hda2, not /dev/hda2, was a typo on my part :)02:39
imterrohey is it possible to get applications to go into the aplications menu?02:39
Hobbseepropagandhi: nice, very nice02:39
Hendricdooglus: no other way i guess02:39
imterroso if i insatall something, how do i get it to go into the aplication dropdown menu?02:39
QuinthiusOeaa: one sec02:39
Oeaanod02:40
propagandhiHobbsee: yeah, its got some cool stuff02:40
demianmaxethyian: yeah, i'd forgotten about that link, with the gconf line it's trivial to write a nice perl script02:40
paddygmanCounter Strike anyone02:40
tamalehyphnated:  LBA mode is 'Supported' and the option is set to [Auto] 02:40
tamalei can disable LBA02:40
Prowerpropagandhi: Just as fair warning, the ops probably aren't going to be happy with links like that in here :>02:40
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robertjdooglus: download or order one?02:40
hyphnatedtamale: naw, change it to force LBA02:40
demianmaxethyian: that panel app kinda sucked anyway...and please, anything i _can_ do in perl i do in perl02:40
matwI'm having trouble with Eclipse SDK. No help files and other stuff. Anyone know where I should go to get help?02:40
propagandhiPrower: ok i am willing to deal with their wrath02:40
tamalehyphnated:  that's not an option02:40
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hyphnatedwhat are the options?02:41
Prowerpropagandhi: Well that's up to you :> Just figured I'd let you know02:41
puffAnybody got a pointer to a windows media file (or something) that they know works?02:41
dooglusrobertj: there must be some way of making a tiny boot cd02:41
puffI'm trying to test tnis mplayer install.02:41
propagandhiPrower: i appreciate that02:41
tamalehyphnated: for 'LBA Mode',  just auto or diable02:41
dooglusrobertj: I guess I just want "lilo on a cd"02:41
tamaleerr disable02:41
demianmaximterro: deviantart.com02:41
cevizogluok02:42
QuinthiusOeaa: not too familiar with command-line apt stuff, but look in /boot, what's the full-named vmlinuz in there? (like vmlinuz-2.6.12-18-k7)02:42
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Kris_khow do you install RPM's in ubuntu02:42
ProwerKris_k: The only way you'd be able to do that is converting with alien, that I know of02:42
CashelKris_k, alien <package>; dpkg -i <package>.deb02:42
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Kris_kso ubuntu is debian ? based02:43
matwyes02:43
Kris_kk02:43
QuinthiusOeaa: (that's the /boot under your chroot environment btw, make sure it's in the same console you chrooted, otherwise it'll be /mnt/hda2/boot)02:43
Cashelyou can alien -i <package> but its giving me probs before...02:43
ProwerKris_k: Yes :> Uses the same package management, and there's a lot of other ties organizationally02:43
hyphnatedtamale: if that's the only option to play with, then have a play with it :-)02:43
tamalek02:43
cevizogluis it hard to recover ubuntu if you installed windows **after** you installed ubuntu?02:43
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hyphnatedtamale: also, does it show your drive detected correctly?02:43
tamaleyes02:44
Cashelcevizoglu, not realy, you just need to reinstall grub02:44
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tamalei saw both my drives while selecting partioning info, formatting, installing, etc02:44
cevizogluCashel, that's what I thought02:44
bimberiKris_k: This page sets out the debian/ubuntu relationship - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/02:44
Kris_kThanks02:45
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eythiandemianmax, fair enough. Although I'm going to check out the newer version of that program at http://planetearthworm.com/projects/wp_tray/02:45
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bimbericevizoglu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows   you be the judge of the difficulty :)02:45
propagandhihttp://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?id=1233077121&eid=-5002:45
tamaleplayin with it didn't help the error 1802:45
cevizoglubimberi, by hard, I meant impossible02:46
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Cashelcevizoglu, have you already reinstalled? easier if you havent yet...02:47
bimbericevizoglu: then no :)02:47
benplautwokick: somehwere around ~600 in glxgears, it's working :)02:47
benplautwoops02:47
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benplautwhat would be the cli command to minimize all windows/show desktop?02:47
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endererrorhello... i have an amilo laptop with hoary... wlan works... but on boot it says: network... fail. i have to activate eth1 again evrytime... any hints?02:47
QuinthiusOeaa: still there?02:48
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bimberipropagandhi: "Microsoft is 100 percent focused on Windows" - Gee i wonder what happened to the Office for MacOSX? :P02:48
cevizogluCashel, I'm not sure yet if I want to use Windows... I'm leaving 22GB open just in case, and using it to play in the meantime  :)02:48
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Casheldd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/C/grub bs=512 count=1   and add it to windows xp's boot.ini , and you should be good to go..02:48
propagandhibimberi: its a good joke isnt it02:48
propagandhiis it just me or is microsoft getting worried02:49
kevogodNo, they are getting desparate.02:49
Hendrici miss the nice BLUESCREENS of windowz02:49
thefoothow's Wine in Ubuntu?02:49
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cevizogluHendric, so set your terminal to blue  ;)02:49
Hendricthefoot: rocks02:49
benplautHendric: BSOD screensaver is awesome XD02:49
propagandhitamale: have u pasted your menu.lst file yet02:49
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synackuatorso anyone running breezy w/ out a hitch?02:50
thefootHendric:  happen to know how the COM port emulation is?02:50
crimsunsynackuator: I am.02:50
propagandhisynackuator: me too02:50
synackuatorwow02:50
synackuatorlaptops?02:50
propagandhiyep02:50
crimsunX40-2527.02:50
propagandhiHP DV400002:50
synackuatorooo02:50
Hendricthefoot: run the wine config.. it shows the com port mounting from win - linux02:50
eythianthefoot, install it from the wine homepage, they have apt sources there with the latest version02:51
synackuatori'm trying to decide if i should go to breezy with fresh install on my notebook02:51
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ProwerCan you actually upgrade to the final release of it now, or is that still coming out on the 13th?02:51
crimsunrelease is the 13thish.02:51
crimsunRC is RSN.02:51
synackuatori'm worried that my ipw2200 / omnibook module switch will stop working02:51
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Hendriclolx @ bluescreen reactions02:51
crimsunipw2200 works fine02:51
propagandhiPrower: you can upgrade now, but the final release will probably have changes between here and then so technically it isnt the final release02:51
propagandhii run ipw2200 also02:52
Prowerpropagandhi: Ahh :> Well everything's working fine for me now and I can wait 10 days anyway02:52
propagandhi10 days?02:52
IorGiePrower: but it is sable right now, i've been running breezy for over 2 months now02:52
crimsunif you want to wait, grab the RC iso in a bit02:52
crimsunit should be out very shortly.02:52
Hendricthere's no suchs thing as02:52
synackuatorwhen do you think they will ship the media?02:52
Hendric"final releases"02:52
crimsunHendric: of course not with security updates, etc. :)02:52
synackuatori signed up for 20 cds02:52
cevizogluHendric, going-out-of-business release?02:53
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ProwerHendric: Well, final release being the term for what they put their stamp on as being both stable and new ;>02:53
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jenocinworks great on my nx500002:53
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bimberisynackuator: if past shipit history is anything to go by, don't hold your breath :)02:53
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Quinthiusbenplaut: yeah, BSOD is great for giving mini-heartattacks when you forget you enabled it...02:53
jenocinjust torrent it02:53
synackuatorbimberi: haha ok02:53
crimsunwell imagine having to ship multiple hundreds of thousands, bimberi.02:53
propagandhiyeah it takes a while, much better to just download it or get someone you know to do it02:53
Hendricthat's why i quoted it...02:54
synackuatorbah i guess i can just download it02:54
synackuatoreven though it's a 1 in 3 chance md5 won't match02:54
bimbericrimsun: yes that was somewhat negative i suppose - just managing expectations :)02:54
synackuatorfrigin adelphia02:54
Hendricsynackuator: it won't if you don't stop and resume the download02:55
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benplautwhat would be the cli command to minimize all windows/show desktop?02:55
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mahangumy dog just died :(02:57
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synackuatorHendric: i don't, it's just that my drop to CO is messed up02:57
synackuatortv fuzzy too02:57
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crispynixbenplaut: With KDE, dcop kicker kicker 'toggleShowDesktop()' ... With GNOME? No idea.02:58
gearryI tried building my own modules, but they are built as .o files02:58
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Laforgecedega is free right?02:59
Laforgecedega is free right?02:59
gearrythe ubuntu kernel uses .ko files02:59
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crimsungearry: that's because you compiled against 2.4 kernel headers02:59
gearrybut I didn't02:59
crimsunLaforge: the binary-only version is absolutely not02:59
crimsungearry: you didn't?02:59
baboonOK fyi everybody i figured out how to set file associations! the right-click->open-with dialog seems to set it per-file but right-click->properties has an open-with tab that makes it clear whats being done and actually works.03:00
gearryI don't have any 2.4 files on this machine03:00
gearryit has only ever seen 2.6.1003:00
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crimsungearry: dpkg -l kernel-headers\*|grep ^ii03:00
FraeonWhat does grep really DO?03:00
Cashelbaboon, didnt we already say that?03:00
Laforgecrimsun so is there a free version?03:01
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crimsunFraeon: man grep03:01
crimsunLaforge: a cvs may still exist; I don't know.03:01
baboonCashel, perhaps someone did, but i must have missed the part about going to the Properties window03:01
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Laforgeok, so to play windows games like GW i would have to pay for a emulator type of prorgam, crimsun03:01
gearryno packages found that match that string03:01
baboonthe Open With dialog is still sorely lacking; it needs a checkbox to indicate if it's a one time or permanent setting03:02
Cashelbaboon, it adds whatever you add, right click properties on an mpg to set the default..  <-03:02
babooni see that now, thanks03:02
gearryin my /usr/src I have headers for 2.6.10 and nothing else03:02
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HobbseeLaforge: CVS version has instructions at http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4503:02
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gearryand I used the default ubuntu kernel config03:03
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n0odl3i need help03:05
Cashelgearry, what is it your trying to do? Is there a question I missed?03:05
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n0odl3something is weird with my monitor03:05
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n0odl3hello?03:05
benplautn0odl3: be more explanetory03:05
n0odl3ok03:06
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n0odl3well benplaut my problem is on the message board its called monitor and its started by ecto03:06
gearryCashel: I am trying to compile new drivers for my wireless card so that I can use rfmon mode03:06
gearryfor kismet03:06
Laforgeis there a remote connection over LAN program for ubuntu?03:06
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gearryI did this before with 2.4 kernels on Debian03:07
benplautn0odl3: then just wait for an answer there03:07
n0odl3well03:07
gearryLaforge: what do you want to do remotely?03:07
Kris_kHey with Cedega when installing Steam what DIR do i choose for the install dir03:07
n0odl3here is my major problem03:07
CashelLaforge, ssh03:07
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n0odl3for some reason my task bar things are clipped (Some of it is not showing and going of screen03:07
Cashelgearry, and what errors are you getting when you try to compile?03:08
gloriacan somebody help me figure out why the sound isn't working in totem??03:08
n0odl3earlier today it worked03:08
n0odl3everything was running fine after i ran it for a couple of hours03:08
crimsungloria: dpkg -l totem-\*|grep ^ii03:08
n0odl3however when i logged out and logged back it in everything went back to the problematic way03:08
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gearryCashel: none on the wireless modules03:08
Cashelgloria, try going to System > preferences > multimedia selector and changing the out put to alsa ...03:08
gearrythe problem is that I get a bunch of .o files that don't load03:09
gloriaCashel, ii  totem-xine      1.2.0-0ubuntu303:09
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Cashelcrimsun, I'm betting that was for you :P03:09
n0odl3i noticed that my monitor refresh rate used to be 57mhz03:09
n0odl3but now its back to 60mhz03:09
Cashelgearry, no .ko ?03:09
n0odl3so what should i do?03:09
gearryeg, the module from ubuntu are .ko03:10
gearrybut when I make modules it generates all .o files03:10
gloriaCashel, it worked...thanks!03:10
n0odl3hello?03:10
Cashelgloria, np :)03:10
n0odl3Mr. Benplaut03:10
n0odl3?03:10
crimsungearry: do you have modutils installed?03:10
gearryhrm, just thought if the mistake I made03:10
gloriaCashel, should i change the default input source as well??03:10
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gearrycrimsun, not sure, will check03:10
Cashelgearry, .o is object file in C/C++ ... so something compiled... but did it finish all the wya? what was the last thing make said?03:11
benplautn0odl3: what does it matter... it's only a difference of 3MHz03:11
maricarasl03:11
gearryperhaps that is the problem, I just checked, and it is still running03:11
Cashelgloria, neither work on my system, but then I have nothing inputting either, heheh... may as well I suppose... alsa is usualy the way to go.. if you ever need oss support alsa can fake it....03:11
n0odl3i know but for some reason the task bar is still clipping03:11
n0odl3it worked earlier and i guess the system just autodetected my setting03:12
n0odl3but now its back to normal03:12
maricarasl po03:12
gearryso perhaps I just need to wait for it to finish03:12
benplautn0odl3: clipping?03:12
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Cashelyeah... might be a good idea :P03:12
gloriaCashel, good point...i've got nothin' comin' in for now too03:12
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n0odl3i mean that some of the task bar is cut off03:12
crimsunCashel: you mean ALSA will provide it. ALSA doesn't fake it at all.03:12
n0odl3like the X for the exit window is off screen03:12
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n0odl3the M in PM is also off screen03:12
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gearryCashel: I deserve the slapping, now I guess I just wait03:13
Cashelso alsa contains a full oss system? its not emulating those drivers?03:13
Dreamgliderseethru hello again :)03:13
Cashelgearry, i do worse daily :P03:13
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benplautn0odl3: i'm not sure... best to just wait for an answer in the forums03:13
crimsunCashel: it absolutely does not emulate ALSA.03:13
crimsunOSS rather03:13
Cashelsoo03:13
n0odl3ok03:14
Laforgegearry sorry was AFK, but i want to have ubuntu sever running in other room but being able to remotly connect to if from my room03:14
eythianin the kernel config it does call it OSS emulation...03:14
Cashelhow does it provide oss then if its not faking it? by faking it I mean providing an interface but realy using alsa...03:14
crimsuneythian: it's really a misnomer.03:14
crimsunCashel: it's not faking it, they are directly mapped to the hardware. There's no interaction at all with alsa-lib.03:14
mahangueythian, my dog died last night :(03:14
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mahangubah, im apt-getting, apt-getting, no end in sight03:15
Ryan_Tif i install Ubuntu >>>"without"<<< erasing my hard drive, does it automaticaly creat a partition?03:15
Casheldirectly mapped?03:15
mahanguRyan_T, you have to manually create partitions03:15
Cashelthen why do people ever need oss at all?03:15
mahanguit lets you during the install03:15
crimsunCashel: snd-pcm-oss or OSS?03:15
CashelOSS03:15
Kris_ki tell you when i go to install FFXI on Cedega thats gona be interesting lol03:15
crimsunOSS was the long-standing API03:15
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Ryan_Tok, but i can still keep all my data right?03:16
Cashelright..03:16
Cashelohhh I think I see what your getting at03:16
Dreamglideris it easy to edit this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29555 to install Ubuntu 5.10 instead of 5.04 ?03:16
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Cashelthe oss devices are still there even if your not using oss...03:16
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HobbseeRyan_T: if you resize your current partition instead of deleting it, yes03:16
crimsunCashel: if support for it is compiled, yes.03:16
Ryan_Ti dont have a partition set up03:17
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HobbseeRyan_T: what are you running now?  windows?03:17
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Ryan_TMac OSX 10.4.203:17
naliothRyan_T: you can resize your partition with parted, join ##apple for help03:18
eythianmahangu, oh, that's a pity.03:19
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txberiuany idea how I can talk an Alps touchpad into enabling tap-and-drag?03:21
darklogichmm, i dont have a xorg.conf. is there a way to copy one from the current settings? the only way i got X running was by deleting the xorg.conf that had been generate03:22
darklogicd03:22
Laforgeso is ssh a remote connect program03:23
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kbrooksDreamglider: yes03:24
kbrooksDreamglider: let me click over ...03:24
txberiuLaforge: yes03:24
gloriawhat's the easiest way to alter someone's username in ubuntu???  say, i want to switch the /home/gloria to /home/zinger05....and have those files change ownership??03:25
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zeus1_is there any hope for wireless working on ubuntu?03:26
kbrooksDreamglider: uh i dunno03:27
Kris_kI have 2 Sound cards, The onboard sound works but how do i switch between them03:27
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cevizogluzeus1_, depends on the wireless card03:27
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crispynixgloria: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/36184903:27
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informantgloria: `sudo mv /home/gloria /home/zinger05; chown -R zinger05:zinger05 /home/zinger05/`03:28
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informantgloria: and then create the zinger05 user (without re-adding home dir)03:29
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txberiuumm no03:29
gloriathanks for the help, i think i'm going to try the usermod command03:29
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zeus1_cevizoglu - D-Link AirPremier DWL-AG530 Wireless PCI Adapter is my wireless card03:30
txberiugloria: an user is really just a numeric id.. the name is associated with it in /etc/passwd and /etc/group03:30
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txberiugloria: in theory you could change gloria into whatever in there03:30
txberiugloria: then just rename your home dir03:30
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n0odl3hello03:31
informantgloria: yeah, I think that might be safer (usermod).. ;-)03:32
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n0odl3uhh03:32
n0odl3i fixed my monitor problem but i theres another problem thats bothering mer03:32
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Dreamgliderkbrooks ok well the same thing must be posible with 5.10 :)03:33
Oeaahi03:33
Oeaahow do i install grub on the MBR03:33
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Oeaawhen lilo is already?03:33
txberiuhmm setxkbmap doesn't seem to work right in Breezy03:33
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txberiuor the keymaps have been changed03:33
n0odl3well all i had to do was to change the MHZ of my monitor03:33
n0odl3and it worked03:34
n0odl3however how can i keep it this way03:34
txberiun0odl3: where did you make the change?03:34
n0odl3it was one of the regular users (not root)03:34
[LONEWOLF] d03:35
txberiun0odl3: make your changes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:35
n0odl3how do i do that?03:35
[LONEWOLF] can u tell me how ubuntu works??03:35
txberiun0odl3: you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:35
n0odl3is that safe?03:35
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n0odl3how would i do that?03:35
n0odl3im using gnome03:36
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txberiun0odl3: what are you trying to do anyway?03:36
WhyvasLThow do i bind a key to a certain command?03:36
txberiuWhyvasLT: system - preferences - keyboard shortcuts03:36
Kris_kI have 2 Sound cards, The onboard sound works but how do i switch between them so like i could run music out of onboard and games through soundcard ????03:36
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n0odl3well im trying to keep my MHZ constant so that my monitor wont cut anything out03:36
txberiuKris_k: many apps and sound servers accept options as to what sound device to use03:37
WhyvasLTtxberiu, thanks, i should of found that....03:37
Kris_kwhat about Steam03:37
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crimsunKris_k: it's a bit hokey in Hoary; you currently have to unload and reload them in the order you want to use them03:37
Kris_k:-/03:37
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n0odl3because everytime i start up my computer the MHZ keeps going back to 60MHZ03:38
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n0odl3then my monitor wacks out03:38
n0odl3so how do i fix this?03:38
txberiun0odl3: so did you change your Horiz and Vert options or what?03:38
DonLn0odl3, what does "wack out" mean?03:38
WhyvasLTtxberiu, i can't figure out how to create a new one?03:39
WhyvasLTcan you?03:39
n0odl3well what i mean is that sometimes my task bar is off screen or the M on PM is cut in half03:39
DonLCan you not make those changes on the monitor itself?03:40
txberiuWhyvasLT: uhm.. guess not03:40
n0odl3so what i did to fix it is to go into system----> prefrences----> resolutin03:40
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n0odl3and then i set the MHZ to 75 and everything went to normal03:40
n0odl3but as soon as i log out it cuts things out again03:40
Kris_kcrimsum so how do i do that sound thing ?03:41
n0odl3how do i keep the MHZ the same?03:41
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imterrowhere can i get w32codecs?03:41
benplaut!w32codecs03:41
ubotuw32codecs is, like, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)03:41
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imterrothnks03:42
n0odl3Mr DonL?03:42
n0odl3how would i keep the refresh rate the same03:42
DonLJust checking...03:43
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DonLn0odl3, go to "System", then "Screen Resolution"03:44
n0odl3ok03:44
n0odl3ok im there now03:44
n0odl3and i set my refresh rate and my desired resolution03:44
WhyvasLThow do i bind a key to a certain command?03:44
n0odl3now how do i keep it that way?03:44
DonLSorry. system, preferences, screen resolution.03:45
n0odl3alright03:45
DonLShould save it for you03:45
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n0odl3hmm03:45
n0odl3i did03:45
n0odl3but for some reason its not saving03:45
n0odl3im not on root03:45
hejux:P ubuntu is very fresh i love it03:45
DonLI set mine up that way to 75 and it stays quite nicely after reboots03:45
cevizogluis there a way to make terminal **not** show the menubar by default when it is run?03:46
n0odl3i set mines to 75 to03:46
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n0odl3but for some reason it doesnt work03:46
n0odl3when i reboot03:46
n0odl3as i said im not in "root"03:46
n0odl3is that why its not saving?03:46
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budreeferhalllooo ubuntuans03:47
budreeferi = n00b need sum help03:47
wickedpuppyn0odl3, mine is 8503:47
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wickedpuppybudreefer, ask and ye shall receive03:47
n0odl3thats great wicked puppy but why isnt the refresh rate staying the same after i reboot?03:47
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n0odl3it goes back to 6003:47
n0odl3a refresh rate that does not work03:47
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DonLn0odl3, this is a bit of a long process, and you might make mistakes if you don't know your system well, but you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"03:48
wickedpuppyno idea03:48
n0odl3i dont know my system well03:48
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n0odl3but what would i do in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:49
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wickedpuppyyou will reconfigure your x server03:49
wickedpuppy:P03:49
DonLn0odl3, that will lead you throught the whole setup for xorg.03:49
DonLthrough, even03:49
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budreeferok here is my deal: just got my ubuntu discs in the mail (YEAH!!! awesome stuff) and i popped it into my dual boot windows/mandriva system. managed to get the new partitions all setup an stuff hda8 and hda9 for / and /home respectively but it crapped out on the install...i wont put grub or lilo into the mbr cause it'll muck up windows so i have a /boot partition as /hda3 that is where lilo is and mandriva loads from there. now i want to mod lilo 03:50
hejuxhi all ,maybe its not right question here ,but anyone could tell me .,which OS can be the best to build a server such as http ftp mail etc ?03:50
cevizogluhejux, ubuntu03:50
hejux:O03:50
eythianhejux, or Debian. Debian is good too.03:50
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wickedpuppyhejux, debian or freebsd03:51
n0odl3i see well ill try stuff first03:51
anivairagreed, though for servers like that it doesn't raelly mattter that much (as long as you're not using CentOS)03:51
hejuxat room #gentoo ,they say gentoo ,here you say ubuntu03:51
anivairindeed03:51
Oeahi03:51
anivairreally, whatever you're most familiar with.  Almost any distro can handle that03:51
TimmyJhey all, where can I download the latest breezy ISO build...I got word that there was an RC coming out very soon03:51
wickedpuppyhejux, you want to compile things everytime it is updated ?03:51
anivairbut I'd definately recommend linux for it03:51
Oeahow do i burn a cd to reload my system if my only means of getting on it03:51
wickedpuppypls go ahead03:51
Oeais a live cd?03:51
cevizogluTimmyJ, in eight days03:51
zeus1_i was trying the mepis distro which was supposably supposed to be really good for detecting wireless connections right out of the box and it didnt detect03:51
eythianDepends on a lot of things. e.g. my server is Debian stable, because I don't want to have to keep an eye on it all the time03:52
wickedpuppyzeus1_, ubuntu live cd does03:52
wickedpuppyand install does too03:52
anivairoea: what?  Are you trying to create a recover disk for a live cd system?03:52
wickedpuppyi tested it on ibm03:52
DonLbudreefer, if you're asking opinions, I'll give mine. Get another computer and do a clean install, and make it your Ubuntu machine. I dual-booted for a while, and for me it was a pain03:52
zeus1_no it doesnt...it wont detect mine03:52
Oeawell anivair03:52
Oeamy ubuntu installation is broken03:52
Oeacan't figure out any way to fix it03:52
anivairok03:52
Oeabeen trying a long time now03:52
Oeaonly way to get up is a live cd03:52
anivairI see03:52
Oeabut....03:52
Oeai can't burn a cd on a live cd03:53
WhyvasLThow do i bind a key to a certain command?03:53
budreeferDonL no can do this is my learning box. gunna have to do mega dual installations forever so if i don't learn now it's pointless....03:53
TimmyJcevizoglu, that is the official release...I unfortunately don't have that long, I thought there was a release candidate coming out like in the next 24 hours :-P03:53
Oeaheh03:53
zeus1_wickedpuppy u mean out of the box or after a lot of configuration03:53
Oeato boot and reinstall03:53
Oeaso i am screwed?03:53
anivairDo you want to burn a CD as a backup of the broken system?03:53
budreefersofar i can get 3 flavors of linux and 2 windows and a dos all on one box but this ubuntu is the first to bug me03:53
wickedpuppyzeus1_, out of the box03:53
anivaircorrect?03:53
wickedpuppyzeus1_, get the live cd and try it03:53
zeus1_I have ubuntu installed03:53
wickedpuppy...03:53
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x3ndouHey03:53
zeus1_its not detecting03:53
x3ndouHow come03:53
wickedpuppywhats ya laptop ?03:53
x3ndouMy lock screen button on my system menu doesn't work03:53
zeus1_its a desktop03:54
x3ndouit just doesn't do anything03:54
wickedpuppydesktop ?03:54
DonLbudreefer, good on you mate. It's a learning experience and you'll benefit from it. Sorry I can't help though.03:54
wickedpuppylan or wireless ?03:54
zeus1_wireless03:54
anivairif so, here's what I did: get yourself a gmail account, compress everyhting you need ot keep, mail it to yourself, and reinstall.03:54
budreeferi need someone who is an expert lilo configurator!!! anybody?03:54
wickedpuppyyou got lan as well ?03:54
zeus1_ya03:54
anivair(or gftp to another system and then send it all back)03:54
zeus1_the router is downstairs03:54
zeus1_and it would be hard to wire it everywhere03:54
WhyvasLThow do i bind a key to a certain command?03:54
wickedpuppyzeus1_, try ifconfig ... you see eth0 and eth1 both ?03:54
zeus1_im not in ubuntu atm....03:55
anivairbut I think you're right.  Short of creating a partition for your old stuff and then leaving that particion alone when you reinstall you're probably out of luck.  What's Beroken about your system?03:55
_jasonWhyvasLT:  try system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts03:55
wickedpuppyWhyvasLT, system --> preference --> keyboard shortcuts03:55
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wickedpuppyzeus1_, lol03:55
wickedpuppyok ok03:55
WhyvasLTyou can't launch a specific app from there03:56
WhyvasLTonly predefined ones03:56
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anivairhmm . . . no oea anymore.  odd.03:56
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x3ndouUh03:56
x3ndouLock screen03:56
x3ndoudoesn't work at all03:57
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x3ndouI assigned a shortcut key03:57
x3ndouand it still won't work03:57
x3ndouthe only way I can lock screen is go into screensaver properties and go file and lock screen03:57
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WhyvasLTi just close my lid03:57
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x3ndou:P03:57
wickedpuppylol03:57
x3ndoufor some reason03:57
x3ndouthat doesnt lock on my laptop03:57
x3ndouIt did in XP03:57
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WhyvasLTno swearing03:57
wickedpuppyx3ndou, some config files are not read till you restart x or com03:57
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x3ndouoh haha wait03:58
x3ndouyeah closing the lid works03:58
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x3ndoubut the screensaver doesn't work03:58
x3ndouif I just close the lid03:58
x3ndouguess I'll restart x then03:58
WhyvasLTwhy would you want a screensaver with a closed lid?03:58
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WhyvasLTa show for your keyboard?03:58
x3ndouso that when I open the lid the screensaver shows03:58
WhyvasLToh god03:58
x3ndouand I have it set to glmatrix which is awesome looking03:58
WhyvasLTbuy a mac03:58
x3ndou:P03:59
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WhyvasLTprissy03:59
x3ndou.. you buy a mac03:59
thompamac sucks03:59
x3ndouhaha03:59
encryptzmac rox03:59
x3ndouIf I bought a mac I'd put ubuntu on it anyway03:59
thompai hate mac so much im going to fluxbox03:59
encryptzthompa: why do you hate mac so much?03:59
DonLIs the new OSX so bad it has people installing Linux on it?04:00
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encryptzi love os x04:00
DonLencryptz, that's what I was thinking04:00
WhyvasLTmacs = overpriced eye candy for sissies.04:00
DonLHuh?04:00
WhyvasLTmacs = overpriced eye candy for sissies.04:00
encryptzoverpriced?  sissies?04:00
WhyvasLTyes04:00
DonLWhat is a sissie?04:00
WhyvasLToverpriced04:00
WhyvasLTa sissie is a mac user04:00
anivairheh.  I almost got a mac with OSX thinking, "this is great!  i can run all my favorite linux applications on it . . . hey, wait a minute!"04:01
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wickedpuppysissie is a gay ... if you ask me04:01
encryptz$129 = mac, $300 plus licesing = windows04:01
WhyvasLTGO TORONTO!04:01
DonLSo you think that is bad I take it04:01
WhyvasLTencryptz, ??? what are you talking about?04:01
WhyvasLTthe OS?04:01
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anivairweird issue: anyone ever have their display just go haywire (graphical "garbage overtakes the screen"?  logging out and back in (or maybe restarting X, i never tried that) fixes it, but it's odd.  maybe my graphics card?04:02
WhyvasLTwho said anything about windows?04:02
thompaencryptz: dont hate hit really, dont know it.04:02
encryptzyou said overpriced, i'm just trying to figure out where your going.04:02
WhyvasLTthe machine04:02
encryptzmy ibook was $130004:02
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WhyvasLTmy notebook was 899 canadian04:02
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thompai cant find my files in mac.04:02
Xenguy.oO(Linux is free as in freedom; what else is there to say? :-)04:02
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encryptzlinux rox too04:03
guidanhi how do u install java?04:03
thompaalso its too glowy04:03
WhyvasLT1.6ghz 512mb ram 40gig hd04:03
wickedpuppy!java04:03
ubotujava is, like, to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java04:03
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WhyvasLT15 inch screen04:03
Xenguy!tell guidan about java04:03
neighborleewickedpuppy, that kind of negativity is not allowed in #ubuntu, so please refrain from further use of such conversation ( and btw not accurate ).04:03
hejuxwhat can ibook do ? just for fun ?04:03
grndslmhey guys....i was on here a lil' while ago, and i asked for advice on switching users like moving /home/gloria to /home/shazzam....04:03
encryptzi love swishy windows etc on mac.04:03
WhyvasLThejux, nothing, it's overpriced eyecandy for sissies.04:03
DonLI figure that  the choice I have is : Some folks sell stuff, and some folks give stuff away. I'll make my choices.04:03
grndslmand now i'm locked out, i can't login at all....can anybody help?04:03
wickedpuppy?04:03
wickedpuppyneighborlee, what did i say ?04:03
wickedpuppylol04:03
encryptzan ibook can do anything any other laptop can do.04:04
encryptzmore secure than linux, too04:04
anivairgrndslm: what did you do?04:04
informantWhyvasLT: how do you figure Macs are for sissies? I run OS X on my Powerbook and manage about 20 Linux/Unix servers, get my web programming done, and test Mono (http://www.mono-project.com) builds on it.  I also can run commercial apps such as Illustrator, so it nearly fits the best of both worlds.  I don't exactly see what's so "sissy" about it..04:04
_jasonencryptz:  well the question is can any other laptop do what an ibook can do?04:04
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grndslmanivair, used the usermod command04:04
wickedpuppyneighborlee, you are not mistaking me for someone else ... are you ?04:04
x3ndou.... ookay04:04
encryptz_jason: sure04:04
x3ndousomehow I ended up with 2 different screensaver apps04:04
x3ndouXscreensaver04:05
_jasonencryptz:  so why pay more for the ibook?04:05
x3ndouand the other one doesn't have a name04:05
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grndslmi guess i did't grant the new user sudoer access or something???04:05
hejuxnowerdays Intel X86 is the most famous platform,all of the OS are running on it.04:05
thompathere are some good nvidia laptops04:05
WhyvasLTinformant, just look at mac users in general.04:05
x3ndouthe xscreensaver daemon isn't running04:05
anivairgrndslm: can you post the exact command?04:05
WhyvasLTpoint and match.04:05
encryptzi love the os.  unix under the hood.  sleek design.04:05
x3ndouhow do I set it to use xscreensaver04:05
informantWhyvasLT: I'm not a Mac user in general. :-)04:05
thompasony fs-660w works nice in linux04:05
informantencryptz: exactly.04:05
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thompabetter than a mac anyway04:05
hejuxthat is we do not need SUN04:05
hejuxand Unix is going to die04:06
WhyvasLTso someone tell me how to bind a specific app to a key in gnome04:06
SlicerDicerdoes anybody here have experience with growisofs crapping out on AMD64?04:06
anivairor a really close approximation, I guess04:06
DonLUnix will morph04:06
encryptzunix won't die04:06
thompahejux: negative04:06
informantunix as an operating system concept is far too powerful to die; it will simply adapt (Linux, et al.)04:06
thompahey04:06
guidanhi , why when i use apt-get update it always giving me problem?04:06
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encryptzmac going to intel was a good move04:06
Hobbseeguidan: what problem does it give you?04:06
guidanit tell me to use apt-get update04:07
guidanlet me see04:07
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thompawhat command tells me running processes in bash?04:07
Hobbseepost it on #flood04:07
DonLguidan, run it twice04:07
Hobbseethe error message that you get04:07
Xenguythompa: ps04:07
encryptzthompa: ps04:07
anivairhello/04:07
thompaok04:07
guidancan i paste in here?04:07
guidani ran it 4 time04:07
Hobbseeno, paste in #flood04:07
guidansame problem04:07
grndslmanivair, i'm guessing it was: sudo usermod -d /home/shazzam -l shazzam -m04:07
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SlicerDicerdoes anybody here have experience with growisofs crapping out on AMD64?04:07
grndslmanivair....or somethin' like that04:07
thompagot massive updates on this notebook04:07
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x3ndouwhoa04:08
x3ndoufirst time that ever happened04:08
x3ndouUbuntu hangup04:08
x3ndouanyway04:08
anivairand are you this user?04:08
Xenguythompa: 'top' may also be useful04:08
anivairshazzam?04:08
x3ndouhow do i set X to use xscreensaver instead of the screensaver prog built into ubuntu04:08
grndslmanivair, umm....huh??  I had to run next door so that i could get on x-chat04:08
lore_hi i'm new to ubuntu linux and have a problem with now sound with creative soundblaster live. anyone have any suggestions?04:08
Hobbsee!backports04:09
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports04:09
anivairthe shazzam user, is that the one you can'ty log in as?04:09
thompathanks: is there an option with "ps"?04:09
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grndslmi can't log into ANY Of them04:09
DonLgrndslm, hate when that happens. For me it's live disk to the rescue04:09
Hobbsee!tell guidan about backports04:09
encryptzthompa: what are you trying to show?04:09
Xenguythompa: e.g. -> ps -aux |grep processname04:09
thompaif nvidia is running04:09
x3ndouHay guyz04:09
x3ndou!!!04:09
ubotusomebody said ! was what you add before a sentence to talk to me04:09
x3ndou:P04:09
anivairso you ran one usermod and now you can't log in as any of your (how many) users?  Have you tried them all? (just to clarrify)04:09
grndslmDonL, any commands you'd recommend me to get back up and running?04:09
x3ndouI need to set xscreensaver daemon to run instead of the one built into ub untu04:09
jbalintHow do I enabled the ftp server? Do I have to install inetd or xinetd? Doesn't seem to be by default installed.04:10
encryptzps -aus | grep nvidia, as Xenguy mentioned04:10
thompathanks all!04:10
anivairhe's right.  try a live disk and just put it back where it was (reverse the command) and see is that fixes it04:10
encryptzaux is what i meant to type04:10
benplauthow would i convert a ogg to a wav?04:10
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grndslmanivair, so I should just try and mess with the usermod command some more??04:10
Hobbsee!java04:11
ubotumethinks java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java04:11
x3ndou:( nobdy knows?04:11
DreamgliderWEEEHA04:11
anivairthat's one option.  you didn't actually move the contents of any directories, correct?04:11
DonLgrndslm, sorry, don't know enough about your prob04:11
bimberix3ndou: my (fairly unmodified) hoary install as xscreensaver by default04:11
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Dreamglideri just installed ubuntu from internet and it works :)04:11
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encryptzx3ndou: xscreensaver is the default04:11
grndslmanivair, i moved the contents from /home/gloria to /home/shazzam04:11
bimberibenplaut: audacity might be able to do that04:11
Bazkaz!mountntfs04:11
ubotuBazkaz: Not a clue04:11
benplautk04:11
Dreamglidertook a while tho about 40mintes04:11
x3ndoutI dunno how either of these progs got here, but these otherone set itself as the default04:11
Bazkaz!ntfs04:12
x3ndouAnd I don't like it because I can't set the properties of the screensavers04:12
zpierreskito mount ntfs, check out the guide at www.ubuntuguide.org04:12
benplautit's really stupid that the gnome sounds have to be in wav... seriously...04:12
Bazkaz!mount04:12
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives04:12
anivairactually . . . get on via live CD and first, just try copying the new contents of shazzan back to gloria (don't depete them in either directory) and see if you can log in then.  it may just be that it's not recognizing the data, does that make any sense?04:12
x3ndouthe command it runs is gnome-screensaver-preferences04:12
x3ndouthe one  I dont want04:12
zpierreskiBazkaz, check out www.ubuntuguide.org04:12
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zpierreskithey explain everything04:13
grndslmnot really, but i'll take your word for it...04:13
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Bazkazthanks04:13
WillySillyububtu: "i see naked people"04:13
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hejuxgrndslm:? solved?04:13
anivairsorry.  just sync up the two directoroes and see if that helps.  If it does, then just move the contents once you can log in as the new user properly.rather than using usermod04:13
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zpierreskiHey everyone, I just used apt-get to get sun-j2re and azureus, but azureus is not working--it freezes on the initial splash screen04:13
grndslmhejux, i'm guessing....04:13
troy14hello room04:13
dos000how does one switch between window managers04:13
zpierreskianyone else had this problem?04:13
SlicerDicer-I am trying to figure out if anybody has any experience with AMD64 and growisofs crapping out when burning dvds I can maybe get 1 burn then I have to reboot my computer if I am lucky If I am really lucky it wont waste the DVD+r any ideas04:14
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grndslmjust puttin' in the livecd and messin' around 'til something lets me login04:14
encryptzdos000: do you have them installed?04:14
troy14i just installed breezy, and I need to make apache recognize .php files...help?04:14
fmasihow do i make apach whork whoth php ?04:14
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dos000encryptz, yes i just did fluxbox04:14
lore_don't want to be a pain but anyone know about linux and creative soundblaster live card and how to get it to work in linux?04:14
troy14fmasi, looks like we have the same issue04:14
anivairwindow managers . . . I wonder if ubuntu has a version of switchdesk04:14
dos000encryptz, i am on hoary04:14
grndslmthanks for the help anivair et al., i must be unplugged now.04:14
encryptzjust choose your window manager at the login screen then.04:15
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anivairhuh . . . i hope that helped him04:15
DonLlore, that's the one that worked for me automagically04:15
Dreamglidergood night folks04:15
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anivairlore_: what he said.  maybe a general reconfigure to see if you can get it running?04:15
fmasitroy14 i did what they say in the gide but its not opening php files snifff04:15
anivairwhatever version of dpkg_reconfigure works for you04:15
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dos000encryptz, i will log out and be back then ... no way of doing it while the apps are running ?04:15
troy14oh...04:15
SlicerDicer-I am trying to figure out if anybody has any experience with AMD64 and growisofs crapping out when burning dvds I can maybe get 1 burn then I have to reboot my computer if I am lucky If I am really lucky it wont waste the DVD+r anybody ever have these issues?04:15
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lore_problem is i am a newbie to linux and have no experience with coding if that's what needs to be done04:16
DonLlore, what's not happening?04:16
encryptzif you have xnest installed, you can put a new session on a new display04:16
troy14i tried to get webmin installed so that I could do it that way, but it is not taking my u:p04:16
lore_DonL - I have no sound at all.04:16
fmasii did try phpBB04:16
anivairno coding nessisary.  you just run a command and it will start a text based wizard for you that is pretty self-explanitory.04:16
DonLLoRe, do you have a speaker icon?04:16
fmasibut apach whants me to download files04:16
lore_System recognizes Dell Sound Blaster live as audito device. and yes I have a speaker icon04:16
troy14i am trying to install mp3act, so that my folks can have a mp3 server that will run to FM.04:16
fmasinice04:17
DonLDouble click on it04:17
troy14That way, it works on any stereo or walkman...04:17
anivairlore_ also, check all your volume options. I know if FC3 you had to alter like three volume controls to make sound work04:17
dos000lore_try to max the volume04:17
encryptzcheck out http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7298 for more info04:17
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troy14but first i have to get php working.04:17
lore_To Don L. I have done that. now what04:17
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troy14i have one built already, but I used suse 9.3 to do oit.04:17
fmasiSo enny one know whot to make php whork ????04:18
DonLMake sure your volumes are up on speaker, cd, etc04:18
kerlnel20hi04:18
troy14does anyone here know how to get apache to work with php files???04:18
kerlnel20i am kinda new in ubuntu04:18
encryptzdos000: i haven't used xnest for a while, but it is cool04:18
anivairLore_: right click the volume control and select preferances.  What does it say you're using for a mixer?04:18
lore_DonL. They are.04:18
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kerlnel20what is the default loader of ubuntu is it grub or lilo?04:18
troy14kerlnel20: good choice!04:18
linnergreetings strangeones :)04:18
fmasiI second troy1404:18
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DonLkerlnel20, grub04:18
kerlnel20i am used on redhat products and fedora04:19
lore_It is the ALSA mixer.04:19
anivairlore_ try switching it to OSS04:19
troy14cant wait for this week to pass so badger goes final... when do I get my cd's???04:19
kerlnel20would it be easier for me to migrate to ubuntu?04:19
DonLkerlnel20, I was too. For years04:19
troy14kerlnel20: I used that and suse... i like this better as a desktop... unstoppable.04:19
anivair(or any other options there)04:19
kerlnel20what makes ubuntu an edge with RH and FCs?04:19
DonLkerlnel20, you'll have to learn Deb, but you will love it04:19
linnernalioth: hey there ;)04:20
lore_Switched to OSS and still have no sound04:20
anivairhmm . . .04:20
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kerlnel20so ubuntu is only good for desktop?04:20
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zpierreskiI've used it as a server04:20
zpierreskiit works great04:20
naliothkerlnel20: ubuntu is good for whatever you want to use it for04:20
kerlnel20how about server services?04:20
troy14kerlnel20: it is more user friendly, IMHO, but alot of the crap you have to go thru on a fedora install is already done for you...04:20
zpierreskiI used squidguard and clamav04:20
kerlnel20web, email ftp samba and son04:20
kerlnel20web, email ftp samba and so onn04:20
bimberifine as a server for me04:20
DonLkerlnel20,  Ubuntu has a linux core, so it's good for anything04:20
dbzdeathDonL: well said04:21
DonLdbzdeath, thks04:21
anivairlore_: i'm thinking, just a second04:21
dbzdeathyou do get exceptions... *cough* linspire04:21
lore_Does the age of the card matter. its about 2 years old purchased through dell and in windows its listed as souldblaster live (WDM)04:21
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x3ndougrr04:21
anivairthat should actually help, not hinder04:21
kerlnel20i am kinda thinking, coz i am confuse if the support of this distro aint gonna last long04:21
x3ndouman I love that fade effect04:21
anivairolder tech has more bugs worked out and linux tackles it better04:21
dbzdeathkerlnel20: can always move to debian... its basically the same04:22
fmasitroy14 if you find how to do it tel me i will try to figure it out04:22
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kerlnel20does ubuntu have implemented SELInus?04:22
kerlnel20does ubuntu have implemented SELInux?04:22
troy14ok04:22
anivairlore_: again, right click the volume control and select volume control04:22
guidank04:22
encryptzkerlnel20: not that i am aware of04:22
lore_ok did that04:23
anivairmake sure you're unmuted in playback04:23
troy14fmasi, you can add repos to synaptic and then install webmin, that should help... for some reason its not taking my u:p04:23
kerlnel20hmm security enhanced linux a project from NSA04:23
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encryptzyeah, and it is solid04:23
lore_ok, nothing is muted04:23
kerlnel20does ubuntu resolved ACPI problems?04:23
fmasitroy14 gona try04:23
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WhyvasLTso someone tell me how to bind a specific app to a key in gnome04:24
troy14I have no pwmgmt issues with ubuntu, kerlnel2004:24
bimberitroy14: how about these packages? libapache2-mod-php4 (or libapache2-mod-php5)04:24
encryptzstill a work in progress.  breezy hasn't resolved all04:24
anivairlore_: go to system -> preferances -> sound04:24
anivairmake sure that everything is checked under general04:24
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kerlnel20what is the kernel version shipped with ubuntu's new release?04:24
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lore_anivair: ok it is.04:24
bimberikerlnel20: 2.6.1204:24
encryptz2.6.1204:24
DonLlore_, I know you've already checked this, but I miss it sometimes. Is there a volume knob on a speaker perhaps that got turned down somehow?04:24
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kerlnel20k great04:25
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kerlnel20how do u install packages?04:25
lore_DonL: very funny, but we checked that too.04:25
kerlnel20still dpkg?04:25
DonLI'm sure you did04:25
encryptzsudo apt-get insall package-name04:25
bimberikerlnel20: apt tools (such as synaptic)04:25
dbzdeathtroy14: i hate having all those seperate packages for different webmin modules... so i just install the package from webmin.com04:25
N17R0whats the problem when "Add/Remove Programs"  is not loading the content? The window stays empty04:25
troy14hmm... wasnt installed, bimberi... working... :)04:25
lore_DonL; and they are plugged ing.  8)04:25
kerlnel20no not online04:25
anivairtry this url (if you can); http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly04:25
fmasitroy14, what is the url for using webmin so i can try it04:25
anivairgreat guide04:25
DonLOkay04:25
mwright1nightWhat's the best way to get a ssh encrypted tunnel to a windows user connecting to the linux box so that the presentation on the windows machine is as a ppp interface04:25
encryptzmanually?04:25
kerlnel20meaning packages from cd rom04:25
troy14webmin.com04:25
WhyvasLTN17R0, slow laptop04:25
bimberitroy14: ooh good, i don't know php much :P04:26
N17R0nope 1600Mhz P404:26
anivairit has a list of stuff to run to make sure it's set up properly04:26
kerlnel20me i know php heheh04:26
mwright1nightor some sort of tcp/ip network interface (doesn't have to be ppp)04:26
encryptz"./configure", "make", "sudo make install"04:26
anivairalso, you can always reinstall the OSS stuff (I'd have to dig to find out how, but it can't hurt)04:26
zpierreskiI think I might have a non-working copy of sun-j2re, can anyone give me a good apt-get mirror 4 it04:26
N17R0WhyvasLT: It was working yesterday04:26
thompaanybody know the latest kernel version in badger updated?04:26
dbzdeathkerlnel20: dpkg works for cd's04:26
bimberikerlnel20: well, yes dpkg04:26
troy14that may not fix it... the issues has to do with .php files being assembled by a browser... what it is trying to do now is download the file...04:26
kerlnel20how do u activate service is it on /etc/rc.d/init.d ?04:26
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lore_Anivair: Thanks will try that link. Thanks for all of your help. I'm sure I'll be back if this doesn't work out.04:26
anivair(I think my evil twin just quit, did anyone see that?)04:26
dbzdeathkerlnel20: /etc/init.d/04:26
kerlnel20how do u activate service is it on /etc/rc.d/init.d ?04:26
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kerlnel20ic04:26
fmasitroy14, I mean once it is instaled04:27
thompa2.6.12-9-38604:27
N17R0kerlnel20: rcconf04:27
wickedpuppykerlnel20, for example /etc/init.d/apache2 start04:27
troy14fmasi... pay attention to what we are saying. synaptic install php packages for libapache-php504:27
x3ndouHey04:27
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p05ironanybody knows to windows XP MCE?04:27
x3ndouHow do I install new logon screens04:27
kerlnel20ic.. coz in rh it is httpd04:27
dos000encryptz, thanks .. it rocks now04:27
x3ndouand wehre can I find them04:27
encryptzsweet.04:27
SlicerDicer-I am trying to figure out if anybody has any experience with AMD64 and growisofs crapping out when burning dvds I can maybe get 1 burn then I have to reboot my computer if I am lucky If I am really lucky it wont waste the DVD+r anybody ever have these issues?04:27
p05ironHELoo04:28
troy14bimberi... didnt do it.04:28
p05ironanswere me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!104:28
kerlnel20what is the default MTA, is it sendmail?04:28
thompawhere does 2.6.12 kernel image come from?04:28
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fmasitroy14, sory whas reading soma pages in the net04:28
troy14what about it p05 iron?04:28
dbzdeathkerlnel20: there is no 'default' you can install whatever one you want04:28
encryptzkerlnel20: not sure, actually.04:28
thompawont that mess up my nvidia?04:28
p05ironWINDOWS MCE?04:28
troy14thats ok... i was installing php packages. you may want to check that you have php installed... :)04:28
zpierreskican anyone give me some mirrors for sun java?04:28
p05ironDO you know=?04:28
kerlnel20btw, does it resolve the issue on ACPI?04:28
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troy14ok p05iron, what do you want about MCE?04:29
x3ndouDo I have to get logon screens which are meant for Ubuntu or just meant for Gnome04:29
troy14this is not a MCE room.04:29
bimberitroy14: :(04:29
DonLp05iron, no one will help you if you are impatient04:29
troy14that's ok... ill get it...04:29
kerlnel20coz FCs release has probs on unstable support on bios ACPI04:29
linnerhey bimberi04:29
p05ironok04:29
encryptzx3ndou: no- you can change display managers04:29
WhyvasLTSCCCCCCCCCOOOOOOORRREEEEEEE!!04:29
troy14suse 10.0 goes live tomorrow...04:29
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bimberihey linner! :)04:29
p05ironhoa many time i need to wailt?04:29
linnerhow the heck are ya'? :)04:29
troy14p05iron, I am asking you what you want. You are not answering...04:30
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linner:)04:30
kerlnel20btw, does it resolve the issue on ACPI?04:30
bimberilinner: i'm ok, how's your wireless (dare i ask?)04:30
p05ironwailt me please04:30
kerlnel20btw, does ubuntu resolve the issue on ACPI?04:30
p05irontroy1404:30
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p05iron is ok?04:30
linnerbimberi: it's so great i had to uninstalled ubuntu for now04:31
troy14I hate MCE... It's the biggest pile of M$ crap since Me.04:31
linnerbimberi: oops uninstall ;)04:31
thompahey, how do i remove the kernel? i dont want it.04:31
linnertroy14: this isn't an MCE room04:31
troy14I would take a myth box anyday...04:31
DonLtroy14, I've never heard of it04:31
kerlnel20btw, does ubuntu resolve the issue on ACPI?04:31
p05ironok04:31
encryptzkerlnel20: ?04:31
troy14DonL Media Center Edition...04:31
dbzdeathkerlnel20: .... fedora is not ubuntu... afaik there are no apache issues on ubuntu... but i don't use acpi.. so yeah04:31
bimberilinner: yeah, i guess that's why you're waiting for breezy :|04:31
dbzdeath*acpi04:31
dbzdeathargh04:31
dbzdeathdunno what i'm thinking04:32
p05irontroy14 what is the difference in windows XP and XP MCE?04:32
linnerbimberi: you got it kiddo! :)04:32
bimberi:)04:32
p05irondo you know what is????........................04:32
dbzdeathwhats MCE stand for?04:32
DonLAhh. I only use MS at work because I have to, and we don't do much media in that environment04:32
dbzdeathohhh04:32
dbzdeathmedia centre edition04:32
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troy14A program that lets you view and organize media content, and distribute it about your network.04:32
=== linner wonders why p05iron and troy14are talking M$ in this LINUX room
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QiHEWSim so happy! =)04:32
kerlnel20hehehe04:32
thompaok i removed the kernel now what?04:32
encryptzwhat does MCE have to do with ubuntu?  just curious.04:32
troy14it is just an add on program, not an OS, as they would like you to believe04:32
DonLlinner, good question04:33
dbzdeathencryptz: nothing... i vote they go to #ubuntu-offtopic04:33
troy14it doesn't04:33
QiHEWSi got the web running on ubuntu, with a rt250004:33
kerlnel20when can it be considered stable the new release of ubunto 5.10?04:33
anivairwhen it is officially released?04:33
kerlnel20Breezy Badger04:33
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troy14this guy is asking M$ questions because linux people know more about computers than anyone in Redmond.04:33
QiHEWSso painless04:33
thompai got ubunto 5.10. very stable so far04:33
dbzdeathkerlnel20: um early october... i can't remember the release date04:33
bimberikerlnel20: due for release on October 1304:33
linner10/1504:33
encryptztroy14: i am wondering what must me wrong with #windows channel04:33
dbzdeathyeah october 13th04:33
linnerbimberi: really 3th?04:33
encryptz:)04:33
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linneroops sorry ya'll04:33
thompaand thats on a notebook.04:33
DonLtroy14, ha ha04:33
troy14don't know.04:33
p05ironLol04:34
troy14I just came in to get php working, and then I will be on my way.04:34
DonLMaybe the windows channel costs money now04:34
thompaonly thing was mounting windows.04:34
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kerlnel20is it really 1 cd for ubuntu?04:34
encryptzDonL: that would make sense04:34
troy14DonL: That was great...04:34
linnerkerlnel20: yes04:34
DonLlol04:34
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dbzdeathhahahahaha there is a #windows channel :P04:34
troy14yes kerlnel2004:34
linnerkerlnel20: wonderful isn't it?04:34
kerlnel20so it means it only has few packages04:34
encryptzdamn licensing fees04:34
thompaim not sure how to  do home networking yet04:34
linnerkerlnel20: it has a LOT of stuff on it04:34
QiHEWShey guys, if you got problems with your wlan just ask me04:35
erirlarhi, what is the thing with the "universe" and "multiverse" reps?04:35
troy14no, kerlnel20.. you can install thousands of packages.04:35
linnerkerlnel20: and synaptic works impeccibly well :)04:35
kerlnel20synaptic?04:35
linnerkerlnel20: for getting new software04:35
troy14right, but I am hearing talk of moving away from apt/synaptic to yum... curious.04:35
linnerkerlnel20: synaptic is the "apt-get" gui for getting new software04:35
anivairkerlnel20: synaptic is the ubuntu package mamager that you can use to i nstall mre software04:36
anivairit's reallty handy04:36
kerlnel20ahh like apt-get and yum04:36
troy14it is a front end GUI to make things easy04:36
encryptzyum?  for rpms?  yuk04:36
linnerkerlnel20: yeppers04:36
troy14right... thats what I thought04:36
thompasynaptic is nice.04:36
troy14it sure is04:36
anivairand bear in mind that even on 1 CD ubuntu still comes with 10 times what windoes has on it.04:36
troy14and its FREE!!!04:36
DonLPlayed with Yum when I was using Fedora. Maybe it's matured. At the time it wasn't a match for apt-get04:36
anivaircan't argue with free04:36
linneranivair: more like windon't04:36
encryptzapt-get and synaptic are the number one reason i moved to ubuntu from suse04:36
thompaim not sure how to use it with "add applications"04:36
bimberilinner: lol04:37
kerlnel20hmmm04:37
anivairyum and apt-get both blow on fedora.  apt-get, when used properly on a debian style system, is amazing04:37
troy14I still like suse, but I like this ALOT better.04:37
linnerencryptz: me too... I got most everything to work on SuSE but the darned pkg manager04:37
wickedpuppyDonL, you can use synaptic on fedora too ... with yum repos of course04:37
anivairI hate problems with it in FC too, but not so much in ubuntu04:37
linnerbimberi: liked that?04:37
linner:)04:37
troy14I use suse for my servers.04:37
encryptzlinner: thumbs up!04:37
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kerlnel20what is the problem u have seen in FCs?04:37
troy14I have a mirror that is close, so pkg mgmt was np04:37
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DonLwickedpuppy, Yeah. I did that. Kind of an interpretation thing. Actually got me hooked on the real thing though04:37
troy14I like FC3 better than FC404:37
wickedpuppylol04:37
bimberilinner: hehe, yes04:38
linnerencryptz: why thank you! :)04:38
linnerbimberi: *heeheheheheh*04:38
kerlnel20my server here runs on fc304:38
kerlnel20but recently downloaded fc404:38
kerlnel208 cds huh04:38
encryptzi have hoary for my server, and love t04:38
troy14that's what i used before I switched to 9.304:38
encryptzit04:38
troy14why 8?04:38
DonLtroy14, fc4 messed my system up big time or I would maybe still be using Fedora and not knowing the benefits of Ubuntu04:38
kerlnel20btw, does ubuntu ships with source on packages?04:38
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kerlnel20like kernel i want to recompile it04:39
troy14DonL, I tried ubuntu on a tip from a friend, and have been hooked since.04:39
kerlnel20i would just go to /usr/src/...04:39
bimberikerlnel20: with more people getting broadband then a single CD with well chosen packages plus easy install of other stuff via the net works well04:39
encryptzkerlnel20: no, not with the kernel04:39
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troy14i just need to get apache2 to use php04:39
kerlnel20what if i am going to compile the kernel?04:39
encryptzhave to download the sources manually04:39
encryptzkinda sux04:39
DonLtroy14, it really is nice the choice we have. The "other people" have no choice04:40
kerlnel20download the sources?04:40
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DonL(trying not to appear negative)04:40
kerlnel20u mean at kernel.org the .gz file?04:40
dbzdeathencryptz: kernel-source packages04:40
troy14I have to use Windows at work, so I installed Virtual PC and use ubuntu.04:40
Bazkazwickedpuppy: Did you give me the link to the NTFS sudo mount command? I'm installing full version tonight and wanted to have that before I do it.04:40
bimberikerlnel20: no, ubuntu has it's own patched kernel source packages (named linux-source*)04:40
encryptzkerlnel20: yeah, or as dbzdeath said04:41
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Bazkaztroy14: How does the Virtual PC work for ya?04:41
wickedpuppyNTFS sudo ?04:41
wickedpuppynot me04:41
bimberikerlnel20: ...obtainable from the ubuntu repositories04:41
wickedpuppy!ntfs04:41
ubotuI heard ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.04:41
kerlnel20where?04:41
wickedpuppythere you go04:41
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wickedpuppylol04:41
DonLtroy14, I haven't got that far yet. They call me network administrator because nobody knows dick about computers, but the most I've done is install Firefox on some machines04:41
Bazkazthanks wickedpuppy04:42
wickedpuppynp :P04:42
kerlnel20where is the repository link?04:42
troy14can anyone help me with configging the server to rec php files??? encryptz???04:42
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Hobbsee!repositories04:42
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))04:42
troy14i like it better than using windoze!04:42
bimberikerlnel20: archive.ubuntu.com (and mirrors) contains the repositories for ubuntu packages04:42
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kurtbecanyone else using kubuntu?04:42
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bimberikerlnel20: you can browse what's available at http://packages.ubuntu.com/04:42
DonLtroy14, me too, big time. Been almost five years now04:42
pauldaousthmm. I'm wondering... you know the way print queues in Windows will automatically unpause themselves when the printer turns on/gets plugged back in/gets more paper fed to it? is there any way Ubuntu can do this?04:42
kerlnel20ok great04:42
Hobbseekurtbek: yes04:42
pauldaoust(searching in forums didn't bring up anything relevant)04:43
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kurtbecHobbsee: are you running hoary or breezy?04:43
pauldaoust(maybe that suggests there is no way?)04:43
encryptzapt-get source linux-image-2.6.1204:43
kerlnel20btw, after u have installed ubuntu does it imply that apache doesnt support php at default?04:43
Hobbseekurtbec: you might want to join #kubuntu, and i'm running hoary currently04:43
troy14I attack windows boxes at work just to get everyone in the office to see how crappy win really is04:43
kerlnel20rh and fcs are automatic04:43
NewDudelol04:43
Hobbseekurtbec: i have tried running breezy a couple of times, and might later today04:43
encryptzyou have to install the php-mysql module04:43
troy14i take over systems using rdpv5 or vnc and they have no idea how I do it...04:44
bimberikerlnel20: probably not, but that's one of the single-CD tradeoffs04:44
DonLtroy14, had to un virus a machine today. Took about 2 hours. Ad stuff, virus stuff. you name it04:44
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kurtbecHobbsee: I've just noticed a problem with gl screensavers under kde in breezy.  just wondering if anyone else notices it04:44
Hobbseekurtbec: check on #kubuntu, but i recall it's a bug04:45
stylesquick question?04:45
styleswhere is mcopy?04:45
rendihi can help me how to disable autoupdate04:45
dbzdeathkerlnel20: just install the php5 or php4 package and then you have support04:45
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stylessyslinux tells me I don't have it04:45
kurtbecHobbsee: i'll give that channel a whirl04:45
DonLkurtbec, my problem was with xorg. Wouldn't accelerate.04:45
rendiits very very stuck04:45
dbzdeathkerlnel20: and the apache module for php04:45
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bimberistyles: mtools04:46
kurtbecDonL: its not xorg.  If i run the screensavers from the command line they work just fine.  Just when they are ran through kde do they not appeared accelerated.04:46
kerlnel20how about open office is it included in one cd?04:46
bimberikerlnel20: yes, 1.3 is on the CD04:46
kerlnel20available for download?04:46
kerlnel20hmm04:46
bimberikerlnel20: 1.9beta available for download04:46
kerlnel20i am kinda eager on ubuntu04:46
DonLkurtbec, ahh. Don't know. I have KDE installed but I much prefer Gnome. So I don't use it.04:46
rendihelloo04:47
bimberikerlnel20: there's an active backport group too so OOo2 is likely to be available soon after release04:47
kerlnel20btw, what is the minimum hardware specs in running ubuntu with gnome?04:47
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crazyman101hi04:47
tritiumhi crazyman10104:47
DonLkerlnel20, you can install it no matter what system you use I think freely from the website04:47
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crazyman101SO Breezy is hitting mirriors tomorrow?04:47
kerlnel20hardware requirements04:47
kerlnel20DonL04:48
troy14DonL: I use Panda, and I have better luck with that than any other av software I have tried. I also use Ad Aware, Spybot and actually the M$ Anti-Spyware program is pretty good.04:48
kerlnel20hardware req04:48
Hobbseebimberi: or you can get OOo 2 RC1, if you go get the deb of it04:48
rendihi can help me how to disable autoupdate for my ubuntu04:48
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do0bzcan Wine 2005072504:48
do0bz in ubuntu be upgrade to the latest release of wine?"04:48
Hobbseecrazyman: the RC is, yes04:48
troy14crazyman101: The RC is hitting mirrors tomorrow...04:48
kerlnel20like 233 mhz pc and so on04:48
bimberiHobbsee: ah, thanks :)04:48
DonLtroy14, haven't used any of those, but will keep them in mind. Thanks!04:48
troy14the final release is next week.04:48
kerlnel20hard disk space04:48
pauldaoustkerlnel20: you can get away with 300 MHz, 64 MB... but it's rather tslow. I'm running it on some 400 MHz machines with 128 MB, and it's running fairly decently.04:48
tritiumno crazyman101, on the 13th04:48
Hobbseedo0bz: yes, check out winehq.org, and get it from there04:48
crazyman101oops.  :X  My bad  Why do I think theres a major distro release tomorrow04:48
pauldaousthey, now that Breezy is in wider use... has anyone tried it with older hardware? especially unaccelerated video cards?04:49
DonLtroy14, sorry. I use SpyBot and AdAware04:49
kerlnel20hmm if that is true it makes a lot of since the fcs04:49
pauldaoustany thoughts on your experiences?04:49
troy14where can I make config changes to apache2???04:49
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dbzdeathpauldaoust: know how much space a server install takes?(the minimum)04:49
kerlnel20coz at fcs my 1.7 gigs celeron kinda crawling sometimes04:49
QiHEWSdo you know a good site for free games to play in ubuntu..i just ditched my burned roms and have come to the step of leaving xp completely, and would like to try out a nice game in linux04:49
do0bz@hobbsee is that the guide from the repository of ubuntu04:50
kerlnel20troy14: i gues in /etc/httpd/conf.d/?04:50
kerlnel20hehe04:50
virgulehey What would you do if all 7 remote controls in the house stopped working at once? They still 'work' as the led show up when the buttons get pressed but the signals wont reach anything?04:50
pauldaousttroy14: /etc/apache2 -- there are a few files in there though. one is httpd.conf (or maybe they've changed the name to apache.conf), and one is vhosts.conf (which you only need if you're running virtual domains), etc04:50
troy14can I tell it to use php files?04:50
do0bz@hobbsee i can get the latest wine in the repository04:50
pauldaoustdbzdeath: I have done a server install, but I've always augmented it with extra packages, and never looked at the initial space taken up anyway.04:50
Hobbseedo0bz: which version is it showing as the latest?04:50
troy14All I want to do is get the server to use the php in the site04:50
do0bzWine 2005072504:50
stylesThanx guys04:51
bimberiQiHEWS: browse the "Games and Amusements" section in Synaptic04:51
do0bzthat04:51
Xenguy_dbzdeath: I've got a nice Gnome desktop on a laptop, and it is still under 2Gb (FWIW)04:51
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Hobbseedo0bz: as in wine 20050725?04:51
do0bzyes04:51
DonLXenguy_, as someone who used KDE for years, I'm lovin Gnome now04:51
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Xenguy_dbzdeath: so without X and all the desktop stuff, it would be a lot smaller04:51
Hobbseethere's a later version04:51
dbzdeathXenguy_: i know04:51
pauldaoustDonL: what do you prefer about GNOME?04:52
do0bzwat version r u using04:52
pauldaoust(let's start a flame war ^_^)04:52
Hobbseedo0bz:http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb is the latest04:52
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Xenguy_DonL: yeah, I find KDE rather gaudy (just my personal taste); GNOME suits my personality better04:52
pauldaoustheh, same here04:52
DonLpauldaoust, it just seems to work better, faster, and more efficiently. I figure bouncing icons I don't need, among other things.04:52
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pauldaoustDonL: yes you need bouncing icons!!!04:52
P8ntKidWhat window manager do you all use?04:52
QiHEWSa few ones :) any recommendations for a rpger04:52
DonLlol04:52
pauldaoustDonL: seriously though... I prefer it myself because of the simplicity too04:53
XenguyP8ntKid: when I don't use GNOME, I use wmaker04:53
XenguyP8ntKid: if you want lean, xfce and icewm are 2 others worth a look04:53
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QiHEWShmm..i could play ADOM! =) =) =)04:53
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P8ntKidXenguy: Nah, i have been using Fluxbox for over a year now. I love it, i just want to try something new.04:54
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DonLYes. I seem to have less problems with it as well. I had to learn different ways of doing things, but it wasn't bad, and I like the elegance04:54
kwilcoxAny  documented problems with icons when upgrading to Breezy?04:54
P8ntKidXenguy: Does the apt sources have the newest version of wmaker? Cuase i installed it but it seems like an older version04:54
Dr_WillisP8ntKid,  how can you tell. :P04:54
XenguyP8ntKid: and you have my suggestions dude - feel free to delete :-)04:54
pauldaoustaw poo. I'm trying to administer this computer network for schoolkids (and of course teachers who aren't terribly computer-literate) and when the printer goes offline and the CUPS queue pauses, bringing the printer offline doesn't unpause the queue. Does anyone know if there's something that would unpause the queue as soon as the printer is ready once again?04:54
Dr_WillisP8ntKid,  i dont think the thing has changed much in 2 years04:54
DonLXenguy, I'm always open to different stuff. But I seem to migrate back to Gnome all the time lately04:55
P8ntKidXenguy: ???04:55
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XenguyP8ntKid: just press delete :-)04:55
pauldaoust(I'm asking this because these people won't know how to do this on a regular basis, and I'm not an in-house admin, so I'm not gonna make a trip just to un-pause the print queue ;-) )04:55
eythianHeh, I've been using KDE for years, and just started iwth Gnome. It's come a long way since I last used it.04:55
QiHEWSi dont really trust OS updates..my plan, when the cd pops out the mail, is to wipe the  hd containing ubuntu and to install 5.10 as the preview was..do you think that the boot manager will get along with that04:55
XenguyDonL: gnome is great, except for older hardware, where it starts to chug04:55
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zeus1_!wireless04:56
ubotuI guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards04:56
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XenguyQiHEWS: that's the wrong plan...04:56
QiHEWSxenguy so what's the right one04:56
XenguyQiHEWS: debian, and ubuntu, and famous for "install once, upgrade forever" :-)04:56
ibuntugnome works good. it works better if you ditch metacity04:56
XenguyQiHEWS: s/and/are04:56
DonLXenguy, good thing I gutted my system and put fast stuff in it a year ago. It' now almost up to the speed of machines you can buy for 500 bucks just about anywhere. LOL04:56
P8ntKidXenguy: For what?04:56
XenguyDonL: yep04:57
QiHEWSxenguy good to know04:57
XenguyP8ntKid: /ignore me ;-)04:57
QiHEWSxenguy and that is done with the synaptic?04:57
XenguyQiHEWS: yeah, it's amazing - it's pretty much 'apt-get dist-upgrade', but check the docs when it comes time of course04:57
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XenguyQiHEWS: sure, or apt-get, or the aptitude04:58
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QiHEWSnice04:58
ibuntuyou have to add the breezy repositories too04:58
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DavidleerothDo any of you guys kknow how to get the netcardconfig command on ubuntu04:58
linner|HOMEwow i didn't know there were three of me in here04:59
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XenguyDavidleeroth: ethconfig(?)04:59
nalioth_zZzlinner|HOME: do you feel pulled in many directions?04:59
dbzdeathifconfig??04:59
linner|HOMEnalioth_zZz: ya' think?04:59
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linner|HOMEnalioth_zZz: what causes that?04:59
P8ntKidWhat Window managers do you all use besides gnome and kde?04:59
kwilcoxany problems with icons when upgrading to breezy? Nautilus no longer shows different file types... all directories and files look the same... its almost as if the icon directory was changed05:00
ibuntuI use openbox05:00
Dr_Willisuse them all - keep what you like05:00
tritiumwhat's up, linner|HOME ?05:00
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WhyvasLTso someone tell me how to bind a specific app to a key in gnome05:00
tritiumkwilcox, haven't seen anything like that05:00
ibuntubut right now I'm using gnome&openbox05:00
linner|HOMEtritium: hey sweetie!05:00
tritium:)05:00
linner|HOMEtritium: how are ya'?05:00
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_n00blar_Hi all, any of you know how to make a logitech mx 500 mouse to work..actually the buttons on the left side of the mouse. I use the left side buttons for back/forward on my browsers in windows05:00
P8ntKidAnybody know any cool desktop programs that work with fluxbox?05:00
Davidleerothubuntu is a fun word to type :)05:01
tritiumlinner|HOME, fine, thanks.  How are you?05:01
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ibuntuadesklets for fluxbox05:01
ibuntuyou can add icons with it05:01
linner|HOMEtritium: started a new job... and well, had to uninstall ubuntu.... but other than that GRrr-EAT!05:01
omarsonHey!, does anyone knows how can I get the root password?05:01
linner|HOME;)05:01
omarsonHey!, does anyone knows how can I get the root password?05:01
kwilcoxtritium: do you know where nautilus gets its icons from? cant find the option to change anywhere05:01
tritiumlinner|HOME, congrats!  Um, why did you have to uninstall it?05:01
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tritiumomarson, don't repeat please05:01
tritium!tell omarson about root05:01
bimberiomarson: the root account is disabled ...05:01
_jason!tell omarson about rootsudo05:01
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vader1102omarson,  it is the installers password05:02
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linner|HOMEtritium: because i couldn't use the wireless and the clock problem was REALLY getting on my nerves05:02
tritiumkwilcox, not off hand, no05:02
zeus1_DWL-AG530 it uses madwifi drivers how do I make it work on ubuntu05:02
tritiumlinner|HOME, you never got it working?  Which chipset is it?05:02
linner|HOMEtritium: so I decided to install it again when the final is ready05:02
linner|HOMEtritium: nope...05:02
discgolferirc://irc.criten.net/0day05:02
linner|HOMEtritium: broadcom........................ evil05:02
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linner|HOMEnice05:03
GrannyTuxanybody know what error 196 is when printing local from server05:03
tritiumlinner|HOME, ndiswrapper didn't do the trick?05:03
linner|HOMEtritium: nope... not at all05:03
linner|HOMEtritium: sad huh?05:03
linner|HOME:)05:03
tritiumyes05:03
zeus1_its not helping me either tritium05:03
omarsonIm sorry, but is there a spanish channel?05:03
zeus1_im getting really pissed with lack of wireless in linux'05:03
tritiumzeus1_, no?  sorry to hear that05:03
tritium!es05:03
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:03
djbrieckQuestion if I am running Ubuntu 5.04 will I be able to update to the latest with out having to download and burn another cd?05:03
kwilcoxAnybody know the default directory that nautilus gets its icons from?? My files all showing the same defualt "page" icon after upgrading05:03
P8ntKidAny body know how to get this bar at the button of this screenshot? http://iamdebom.com/stuff/Screenshot.png05:03
linner|HOMEzeus1_: do you have a broadcom chipset?05:04
tritiumomarson, did you see that?05:04
QiHEWSwhat's the best roguelike for linux05:04
zeus1_no internet isnt gonna work for me...I need internet connection or ubuntu is pretty much useless...just think about it. No updates, no new packages, or upgrades.05:04
zeus1_no05:04
tritiumno lifeblood05:04
bimberidjbrieck: sure - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade05:04
linner|HOMEzeus1_: just use the ethernet port05:04
zeus1_linner|Home it uses Atheros05:04
zeus1_chipset05:04
Xenguydjbrieck: that is the Debian/Ubuntu specialty :-)05:04
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djbrieckcool05:04
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QiHEWSand if you can't make the card work, get the module source and type insmod *.ko05:05
djbrieckhow stable is Breezy05:05
QiHEWSin the same directory05:05
zucchini_folkyo05:05
DonLdjbrieck, have you been using Hoary for a while?05:05
linner|HOMEQiHEWS: what does that do?05:05
Amaranthzeus1_: Hey, it at least starts you out with more things to do than Windows. ;)05:05
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linner|HOMEdjbrieck: pretty darned stable05:05
djbriecknot long05:05
QiHEWSlinner|home it installs the driver05:05
vader1102djbrieck, I have been using it for about 2 weeks05:05
djbrieckjust installed about a week05:05
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QiHEWSmy rt2500 wlan card for example, needed just insmod rt2500.ko05:05
linner|HOMEQiHEWS: really?05:05
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QiHEWSyeah the proof is that i am here05:06
djbrieckhave not been using it because my wireless card is not up05:06
linner|HOMEQiHEWS: even if the chipset is known not to be supported?05:06
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zeus1_doesnt matter....internet usage is the bane of my reason for using computers...I cant continue to use an OS that doesnt let me get online to get what I need and want05:06
tritiumlinner|HOME, no, silly ;)05:06
DonLdjbrieck, that's good. I used mine for a while and had a bunch of stuff in here that I think didn't relate well to the new system. I've pretty much got it back to normal now..05:06
linner|HOMEtritium: I figured so...... but a gal can hope can't she? :)05:06
ngmlinux_does anyone know where I can find drivers for the logitech quickcam pro 4000 and 5000 models?05:06
P8ntKidge=screenshot2ar.png&bgc=0077DD&fgc=BB9999&bor=00449905:06
P8ntKidge=screenshot2ar.png&bgc=0077DD&fgc=BB9999&bor=00449905:06
tritiumlinner|HOME, sure :)05:06
QiHEWSlinner|home the breezy preview came with the source but the same command is used in the howto for 5.04 to make a rt2500 work05:07
P8ntKidOoops, sorry05:07
linner|HOMEQiHEWS: oh okay... well that doesn't pertain to my model... thanks for the info though05:07
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djbrieckBut I really like the project05:07
linner|HOMEQiHEWS: hopefully it will help someone else in the channel05:07
ngmlinux_can i use a debian package in ubuntu?  or do i need a specific ubuntu debian package?05:07
ngmlinux_can i use a debian package in ubuntu?  or do i need a specific ubuntu debian package?05:07
P8ntKidhttp://iamdebom.com/stuff/Screenshot.png Does anybody know what program he used to get that apple like menu thing?05:07
ngmlinux_does anyone know where I can find drivers for the logitech quickcam pro 4000 and 5000 models?05:07
QiHEWSlinner|home couldn't get more simple =)05:07
TiMiDongmlinux_ stop flooding05:07
djbrieckand the gnome interface is great05:07
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linner|HOMEQiHEWS: yes....... if you have that chipset05:08
TiMiDongmlinux_ and yes u can05:08
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linner|HOMEQiHEWS: i have a broadcom... so I'm pretty much SOL05:08
TiMiDoP8ntKid let me check it05:08
DonLdjbrieck, me too. What I have now is a weird combination of Hoary and Breezy. I'm going to wait a couple weeks and then do another update05:08
linner|HOMEand it's new to boot05:08
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linner|HOMEso............05:08
QiHEWSwell linner if i were you i'd just try it out05:08
zeus1_how make wireless work how make it work  DWL - AG530 not working at all this is bull sheeeaht05:08
TiMiDoP8ntKid ask the guy of the screen shot05:08
djbrieckAlways tried kde or other stuff like flux box on other distros05:08
mojoanyone good on logs here?  I have a dvd-rom (pana dvr-105) that comes up sometimes, but other times won't.  want to see what log files say about discovery errors or what not. thx.05:08
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ThomasMAnyone happen to have a .deb for cone?  I'm sick of trying to get it to compile (it was built for gcc-3.2 and I don't have the skills to patch it forward to gcc-4).05:09
mojoactually it's a dvd burner05:09
TiMiDo!info cone05:09
TiMiDobla05:09
P8ntKidTiMiDo: It was a post made in the ubuntu forums in the Desktop thread :( I was just browsing through. Idk if ill be able to find his post again05:09
djbrieckBreezy is still in testing right05:09
QiHEWSzeus, i just needed to do insmod rt2500.ko and activate the card in network manager..i dont even use encryption cus i set up my router to do mac adress filtering05:09
linner|HOMEwow... this is the most folks in the channel that i've seen yet05:09
linner|HOMEdjbrieck: yes05:09
calythanyone know what's the name of the applet that sudo in Gnome?05:09
zucchini_folkyou guys where caan i go to test my java to see if i finally got i working05:09
tritiumngmlinux_, it's not advised to use debian packages on ubuntu, generally05:09
DonLdjbrieck, just a couple weeks left05:09
linner|HOMEdjbrieck: but there are VERY close to the final... 10/1305:09
bpasdarI need help with kmail on breezy -- any experts here tonight05:10
_jasonzucchini_folk:   http://www.bodo.com/javame.htm05:10
zucchini_folki dont feel like going therugh the trouble of actually finding a reason05:10
mojocalyth: maybe gksudo05:10
djbrieckI'll wait till then probably05:10
zeus1_qihews its not even giving me a button to add a new connection in the network manager in ubuntu05:10
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zeus1_what kind of BS is that05:10
QiHEWSzeus that looks bad..put do you have any devices displayed05:10
zucchini_folkthanks _jason05:10
zeus1_YES05:10
DonLzucchini_folk, try the Sun site. Can't remember the exact location of the dancing figure05:10
kurtbecmojo: /var/log/kern.log05:10
ThomasM!info cone05:10
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_jasonzucchini_folk:  here is the "official" site: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml05:11
QiHEWSzeus, is there a module source for your card anywhere05:11
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zeus1_qihews i have the old modem connection displayed but its grayed out...i used it and it worked fine before i moved to a wireless05:11
zeus1_qihews idk05:11
djbrieckbut this distrib look good to be a windows abanoner on my laptop05:11
mojokurtbec: thx. will go seekin05:11
vader1102zeus1_, http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=33958&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=20050805:11
QiHEWSzeus give it a shot05:11
stratanyone with problems with java in ubbuntu??have it installed and when i go to..say..yahoo chatrooms java loads and all..i can see other peoples messages in room but if i type  a message it dosent show up in room??any one with problems with java?05:11
zeus1_i looked05:11
calythmojo: thanks05:11
QiHEWSsearch wiki.ubuntu.com05:11
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mojocalc: yw05:11
vader1102zeus1_, that is what I found05:11
zeus1_k thx ill look at it tommorow05:12
zeus1_i g2g got school in morning05:12
zeus1_later05:12
bpasdardoes anyone else have the problem of kmail crashing when trying to send?05:12
stratjava console  shows this error.......XML Parsing Error: no element found05:12
stratLocation: jar:resource:///chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/mozapps/update/updates.xml05:12
stratLine Number 1, Column 1:05:12
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linner|HOMEstrat: please use the pastebin05:12
djbrieckin other words who needs windows with this os, Wine works as well right...05:12
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ngmlinux_this sucks i thought ubuntu was compatible with debian05:13
TiMiDodjbrieck cedega will05:13
ngmlinux_ubuntun can't run #@$#05:13
kwilcoxanybody know the default setting in a nautilus config file so it shows a preview of all of the files if they are text, and uses special icons for most other types of files05:13
linner|HOMEngmlinux_: it is built BASED on debian05:13
nalioth_zZzngmlinux_: source compatible05:13
DonLdjbrieck, I don't even need wine. There are some native programs that work as well or better05:13
tritiumngmlinux_, it is.  What does debian have that ubuntu doens't, anyway?05:13
ngmlinux_yeah well there's plenty of software not compatible with it05:13
djbrieckwhats is cedega a future release?05:13
linner|HOMEDonL: I second that...05:13
ngmlinux_quickcam drivers, djbrieck05:13
DonLngmlinux_, I'm happy with Ubuntu. Maybe you'd be happy with Debian05:14
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Kris_kWhen Using VLC OR Mplayer to play dvd's it plays them all glitchy and slow and messed ???05:14
linner|HOMEngmlinux_: it's all a matter of preference05:14
stratis there a java room??05:14
ngmlinux_no the issue with linux is people don't standardize on one distro05:14
kwilcoxkris_k: video drivers all set up correctly?05:14
ngmlinux_so you need a whole bunch of distros to run your apps05:14
kurtbecKris_k: also check if you have dma turnded on for you dvd player.05:14
nalioth_zZzstrat: probably. what was your question?05:14
tritiumnot really, ngmlinux_05:15
kwilcoxngmlinux_: not really05:15
Kris_kKwilcox yes05:15
DonLngmlinux_, maybe you have yet to find the distro for you. Keep looking05:15
ngmlinux_ok than why can't i install a quickcam driver in linux?05:15
ngmlinux_becuase it only works with debian and redhat05:15
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Kris_kim using the fglrx drivers05:15
ngmlinux_i have those distros05:15
tritiumngmlinux_, then grab the debian source, and build it on ubuntu05:15
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stratjava is installed and loads..but when i go to yahoo chatrooms..java loads  and i can see there words,,but if i enter something..it dosent show in room..05:16
ngmlinux_tritium do you know the process for that?05:16
nalioth_zZzngmlinux_: it's quite easy05:16
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linner|HOMEngmlinux_: tritium knows all things linux *grin*05:16
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tritiumlinner|HOME, not even close ;)05:16
tritiumbut thanks :)05:17
mahangu_what are the shortcut keys for 3ddesK?05:17
nalioth_zZzngmlinux_: if you add some debian SOURCE repos your your sources.list, apt-get will build it for you05:17
Kris_kKwilcox drivers are set up fine using the fglrx ones05:17
linner|HOMEtritium: big a$$ grin :)05:17
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tritiumheh05:17
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djbrieckThanks for the info05:17
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ngmlinux_nalioth_zZz can you walk me through this or will it take so long it's not worth it?05:17
djbriecklater all05:17
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synackuatorhelp!05:17
joshAnyone know where I can get VLC 0.8.2-1ubuntu2 for a64?05:17
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kwilcoxkris_k: if you steam video from somewhere is the quality ok?05:18
stratare there any websites that can test your java..to see if it works properly..??been to a few that just tell if you have it installed or not..05:18
renedoxJosh43: synaptic?05:18
nalioth_zZzngmlinux_: add some debian SOURCE repos (the lines in the sources.list starting with deb-src) and use apt-get to build whatever you like05:18
_maydayjay_anyone successfully compiled acerhk on Breezy?05:18
xanthowhat install LibMesa with Ubuntu?05:18
Quinthiushow can i see my library path being used? LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't seem to be set...05:18
Kris_kkwilcox like from a website ?05:18
SlyckevogodSUSE Linux 10 is out.05:18
kwilcoxkris_k: sure05:18
Kris_kkwilcox let me try05:18
Josh43renedox: Nope :( Just 0.8.1, which is not installable due to a bug05:18
bpasdarDoes anyone have experience with kmail crashing sig 11 while sending?05:18
mahangu_how can i bind a key to /usr/bin/3ddesk?05:18
ngmlinux_nalioth_zZz there's no repo for these drivers05:19
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vader1102Slyckevogod, it is and the wireless is broke in it05:19
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synackuatorhow would one reset gnome to defaults via console?05:19
ngmlinux_nalioth_zZz you have to be a rocket scientist to install this crap05:19
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nalioth_zZzngmlinux_: then where do they come from?05:19
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ngmlinux_nalioth_zZz http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/debian/05:19
kevogodvader1102, How so?05:19
mahangu_binding keys anyone?05:19
Quinthiusmahangu_: sec...05:20
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DonLThis is the way I see it : The cost of using Gnu/Linux is offset by the possibility you will have to learn something. By learning something you're getting a free education into a field you are interested in. Seem like a win-win situation to me.05:20
Amaranthcafuego: ubotu says libosgcalc2 doesn't exist in breezy, http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/libosgcalc2 disagrees05:20
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vader1102well, I runb a dwl-g650 card which in 9.2 and 9.3 is auto detected and in 10 isn't along with a lot of others05:20
Josh43Ok, alternate question; if I dounload the source of vlc and compile it, is there a major difference between that and "0.8.2-1ubuntu2" - ie: is there a real reason the version number includes "ubuntu"?05:20
Quinthiusmahangu_: applications -> system tools -> configuration editor05:20
tritium!info pwc-source breezy05:20
Kris_kkwilcox what can i stream that i have a plugin for ?05:20
ubotupwc-source: (Philips webcam pwc driver), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 10.0.7-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 73 kB, Installed size: 132 kB05:20
tritiumngmlinux_, ^^^05:20
Quinthiusmahangu_: and then apps -> metacity -> keybinding_commands. set your command there, and then go to apps->metacity->global_keybindings and set a key to the corresponding command number05:21
Josh43DonL; nicely put05:21
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tritiumngmlinux_, your pwc drivers are in breezy05:21
dsfasHello05:21
ngmlinux_they are?05:21
synackuatorsorry I got disconnected, does anyone know how to reset gnome to defaults via console?05:21
dsfasI need help05:21
ngmlinux_let me check05:21
tritiumngmlinux_, scroll up05:21
kurtbecKris_k: can you play aa local video file without issue?05:21
vader1102night all...time for this 'ol boy to go to bed abd try to get some sleep......had 2 gours of sleep the last 2 days05:21
Dr_Willissynackuator,  could delete/rename/move the .gnome* dirs05:21
Amaranthcafuego: Nevermind, appearently I got the argument order wrong.05:21
Ruffleshi. has anyone here noticed a bug in gaim? it closes suddenly while in use...05:21
TiMiDodsfas ask05:21
ngmlinux_tritium should i be checking in synaptic for this stuff?05:21
zack_my only problem with linux is ATI drivers05:21
dsfasI need a program that can retrieve raw php files off a server.05:21
kwilcoxkris_k:any MLB (baseball site) has streaming video05:21
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TiMiDodsfas you meen ftp client?05:22
kurtbecRuffles: use gaim all day long with no problems using breezy05:22
dsfasI know this is the complete wrong channel, but the only php channel has a total of four people in it05:22
zack_but thats the people at ati to blame05:22
tritiumngmlinux_, scroll up, and you'll see the info I had ubotu paste05:22
synackuatorDr_Willis: i think it may just be my panel (goes crazy at login), do you know if I can just reset the panel?05:22
DonLI'm off for the night. See you people later.05:22
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bob832hello, i install unbuntu on a laptop, if i wanted too see if the cpu throttling apci scrpit was working for when the battary was unpluged, how could i go about doing so?05:22
Quinthiusmahangu_: for example: apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/command1 = "/usr/bin/3ddesk", apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_1 = "<Control><Alt>F1" or whatever05:22
ngmlinux_nice it's already installed05:22
ngmlinux_thanks tritium05:22
Dr_Willissynackuator,  no clue there.. look in thoese dirs.. delete what seems to e panel configs - would be the logical step05:22
tritiumsure, ngmlinux_ :)05:22
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Ruffleskurtbec: well.. mine has a weird bug, i'm using warty by the way05:22
dsfasno, a non-ftp client that can retrieve the raw files. Like if my friend has a website where the goal is to break in05:22
ngmlinux_now i need to get the camera05:22
Rufflesbslima: ol brasileiro05:22
Kris_kkwilcox i dont have quicktime or wmp or realplayer tho lol05:22
dsfasOne objective would be to get one of the php files.05:22
bslimaol05:23
kurtbecRuffles: what version of gaim is in warty?05:23
bslima:)05:23
CarlFKdsfas - " break in" <> a program05:23
mahangu_Quinthius, didn't get that but nvm, 3ddesk is kind aresource heavy anbyway05:23
nalioth_zZzngmlinux_: add this deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free05:23
Ruffleskurtbec: 1.1.405:23
winnera new version of naim is out; where can i get it?05:23
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bslimaRuffles, permitido falar portugues por aqui ?05:23
zucchini_folki am sads05:23
Rufflesbslima: acho que no05:23
nalioth_zZzbslima: in #ubuntu-pt05:23
tritium!pt05:23
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.05:23
zucchini_folki do not have appelet funcctionality05:23
AnswerDoes anyone know how much diskspace for *every* package in synaptic?05:23
nalioth_zZztritium: slow05:23
tritiumeh, bite me ;)05:23
bslimaflws05:23
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winneranyone??05:24
HobbseeAnswer: what you mean you want to download everything in there?05:24
dsfasCarlFK: a program called "Break In" will get the raw php files for me? Note: I'm on a windows box05:24
kwilcoxanybody know the default installation path for openoffice205:24
AnswerHobbsee: Did I stutter? hehe05:24
CarlFKjeez.05:24
CarlFKno.05:24
dsfaslol ok05:24
tritiumkwilcox, use dpkg -L <packagename> to find the files in a package05:24
zucchini_folkapt-get update is the only comand i jnow by heart05:24
Ruffleskurtbec: it seems that this version is not the actual version for gaim, i've heard about gaim 1.5 and ubuntu's 1.1.405:24
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synackuatorquick command to rename single file?05:24
Answersynackuator:  man mv05:25
mojocalc: yw05:25
kurtbecRuffles: breezy has 1.5 but I didn't see a newer version for hoary05:25
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AnswerDoes anyone know how much diskspace for *every* package in synaptic?  I want to do a "complete" install05:25
winnerok ok05:25
Ruffleskurtbec: ops.. i've said warty but i'm using hoary05:25
Rufflesactually05:25
winneranyone know how i can "upgrade" from hoary to breezy05:25
nalioth_zZzwinner: see /topic05:25
Hobbsee!upgrade2breezy05:25
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade05:25
tritiumAnswer, you can't even do that.  Some packages conflict with others.  And you don't want all 17,000 anyway05:25
winnernice05:25
winnerthanks05:25
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kwilcoxtritium: you know openoffice's package name 8)05:25
QuinthiusAnswer: umm i don't think that's advisable...05:25
nalioth_zZzHobbsee: see /topic05:25
Josh43Answer: "complete" is not the right term.. monumentally cluttered is a better one ;)05:25
Hobbseeah, that is up the top, didnt notice it05:26
tritiumkwilcox, dpkg -l | grep openoffice.org to find the ones you have installed ;)05:26
Ruffleskurtbec: i'm lookin' forward for an update to breezy but i rather wait for it to be all done instead of updating mine stable release to testing05:26
linner|HOMEwhat does this mean:  Answer too slow !upgrade2breezy05:26
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linner|HOMEi just saw that below winner's "thanks" remark05:26
Josh43tritium; could he maybe just download all the debs and source?05:26
nalioth_zZzwhere is ngmlinux_05:26
AnswerOK.  So what is the biggest ubuntu installation anyone has successfully ran? (in diskspace or packages)05:26
pw-is there a program that will let me assign free space on my hard drive to a given partition?05:26
tritiumJosh43, I guess...but not sure why05:27
Quinthiuslinner|HOME: it means Answer typed /me too slow !upgrade2breezy05:27
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pw-partition magic in windows doesn't want to assign this free space for whatever reason..05:27
Hendricwoah!!!05:27
Hobbseepw-:gparted05:27
Josh43tritium: I dunno.. but it's as close as he's getting05:27
linner|HOMEoh oh oh that's someone's name... sorry05:27
pw-thank you05:27
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kurtbecRuffles: understandable indeed.  I just tried kubuntu this week which has been my first try with a Debian based distro.  Breezy has been pretty good though so far.05:27
sportmanhey05:27
Answerlinner|HOME:  Hobbsee beat me to the answer, which was !upgrade2breezy05:27
winnerdamn im going to upgrade RIGHT NOW.05:27
Hendricanyone here knows how to remove "update-notifier" from starting up???05:27
Josh43Answer: That's going to be answered in terabytes05:27
sportmananyone know where i could find a place where mac osx coders talk05:27
sportmanive been looking on freenode05:27
sportmanand efnet05:27
AnswerJosh43: OK... I can multiply by 102405:27
nalioth_zZzAnswer: i beat you both with "see /topic"05:28
AnswerI got beat by someone who is azzzleep05:28
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Ruffleskurtbec: yep! truth! i used to run slackware some time ago but now i've tried debian sarge then ubuntu hoary i don't wanna get back to slack anymore05:28
Josh43Answer: Uhm, like, you have a peta+byte system?05:28
graymansportman, i think that they dont talk05:28
nalioth_zZzi have an answer for ngmlinux_ whenever they come back05:29
sportmanthey have to05:29
sportmansomewhere05:29
Ruffleskurtbec: apt-get is just fantastic05:29
sportmani mean then who is running the darwine project05:29
sportmanand etc05:29
graymanerm. and what made you think that you can find the answer in a linux room?05:29
tritiumnalioth_zZz, I gave him the pwc-source package, and he seemed happy05:29
mojokurtbec: i think i may have a lead.  I get this every boot.  Now trying to go back 'till I find one where it worked...05:29
Ruffleskurtbec: now i'm trying to install ubuntu on 20 machines at my university's laboratory05:29
mojoOct  4 16:40:54 localhost kernel: Probing IDE interface ide1...05:29
mojoOct  4 16:40:54 localhost kernel: ide1: Wait for ready failed before probe !05:29
sportmanlol05:29
sportmanpl talk in here grayman05:29
sportman*ppl05:29
tritiummojo, don't paste please, or I'll take your mojo away05:29
Ruffleskurtbec: there's a knoppix based distro installed there05:29
nalioth_zZztritium: i can give him a ubuntu deb05:29
sportmanso i figured worth a shot05:29
Answermojo: bad harddrive05:29
mojokurtbec: thks again05:29
Kris_kkwilcox i dont have anyplayers to stream stuff in lol05:29
graymanerm05:30
tritiumnalioth_zZz, it was an ubuntu source .deb05:30
mojobad phys.?  it works usu. on  a cold boot.05:30
Ruffleskurtbec: and it has kde as default window manager but i don't like it at all05:30
graymanyou can google sportman05:30
nalioth_zZztritium: i've got the src repo05:30
mojotritium: i usu don't but it was small05:30
kurtbecmojo: no problem.  good luck05:30
Answermojo: cold boot?  ide1 I think is referring to a harddrive05:30
tritiummojo, cool05:30
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kurtbecmojo:  post if you have any more problems05:30
nalioth_zZzwhat is pwc mangler anyway?05:31
kurtbecRuffles: so far I really like the desktop that kubuntu presents by default.05:31
Josh43Hrm.. quick Q: if I want to be able to compile just about anythinhg, can I install all the headers and libs without having to change anything else?05:31
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Ruffleskurtbec: i'll try its liveCD then05:31
mojotristanmike: right on.  Answer: Ide1 is the inft. on mobo to the cd-rom drives.  ide0 is the two ata hdd's.  Other hdd is SATA05:31
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mojoAnswer: The drive is a Panasonic dvr-105 if I remember the model no. correct.05:31
Ruffleskurtbec: the guy who works on the laboratory doesn't like gnome, he's a kde fan, i'll show him kubuntu then05:31
tritiumJosh43, you'll want to install build-essential if you plan on compiling05:32
nalioth_zZztritium: i like have source repos so dependencies can be satisfied05:32
mojokurtbec: cool05:32
kurtbecRuffles: apt-get is pretty good.  I'm still working on getting used to all the different commands.  I've been a hardcore gentoo user the last couple of years and I really like gentoo's portage but just got tired of compiling05:32
Answerexit05:32
Quinthiusanyone know how to view my library load path? LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't appear to be set05:32
Josh43tritium: that's a meta-package I assume?05:32
nalioth_zZzkurtbec: apt-get can compile for you, if you miss it05:32
ColonelKernelkurtbec, if the initial install didnt take so damn long I'd be all over gentoo05:33
tritiumJosh43, yep05:33
Ruffleskurtbec: well... i wanted to try gentoo before ubuntu but a friend told me it's crap 'cuz you have to complite everything05:33
mojoI have been thinking of a Gentoo too.  I would like to see how a source distro would run on my amd6405:33
Ruffleskurtbec: so far i've seen some awesome gentoo screenshots though05:33
mojobut i like ((ubuntu))05:33
kurtbecRuffles: Gentoo is a great distro to learn on and is a customizers dream distro.  if you like everything customized Gentoo is awesome.05:34
tritiumapt-get source, for those who miss gentoo05:34
Josh43tritium: that's a better answer than I was even hoping :) Ubuntu is better and better all the time05:34
calcmojo: ?05:34
tritiumJosh43, glad to hear it :)05:34
mojocalc: huh?05:34
Kris_kkwilcox Streaming Video Plays Fine05:34
calcmojo: you said "calc: yw"05:34
Ruffleskurtbec: i do but i have neither time nor patience to compile everything, even knowledge05:34
calcmojo: guess you typod for someone else05:34
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Ruffleskurtbec: i've heard about some stage3 stuff05:35
seth_k|lappyDoes anybody have a working Alps touchpad scroll on Breezy at this point?05:35
kurtbeci just like rpm and emerge from the stand point that you can most things with the one command where with ubuntu I have dpkg apt-get apt-cache....05:35
ColonelKerneltritium, are you kidding me?!?! thats fantastic05:35
mojocalc: oh, i said you're welcome (yw) to you saying thanks a looooong time back, LOL05:35
seth_k|lappymy tap and touchpad work, but not scrolling05:35
tritiumColonelKernel, what is?05:35
calcmojo: oh ok :)05:35
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Ruffleskurtbec: which is easier to get gentoo installed with05:35
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ColonelKernelthat you can get packages in source instead of binary05:35
tritiumColonelKernel, :)05:35
mojocalc: np (no problem).  sry 4 the berevity ;)05:35
kurtbecRuffles: stage 3 gets you there much faster.05:35
ColonelKernelnow if I can figure out how to set GCC options Im set05:35
Ruffleskurtbec: but... do you still need to compile it?05:35
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tritiumColonelKernel, one of the reasons backports are fairly easy to build05:36
calci managed to charge my laptop battery enough to upgrade to current breezy :)05:36
nalioth_zZzColonelKernel: apt-get is quite wonderful05:36
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calcnow i just have to wait for my replacement ac adapter to actually use it05:36
Ruffleskurtbec: i have an impression about these compiling.. it has no uninstall and seems that it gets linux bigger and bigger05:36
kurtbecRuffles: usually there is a cd with binaries that you can use for initial load which makes that pretty much painless, but to keep up to date with security patches you'll have to compile.05:36
ColonelKerneltritium, any idea how I can set gcc options for my system?05:36
nalioth_zZzRuffles: no no, use 'checkinstall'05:36
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nalioth_zZzubotu: tell Ruffles about checkinstall05:36
Rufflesnalioth_zZz: what's it?05:37
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Kris_kWhen Using VLC OR Mplayer to play dvd's it plays them all glitchy and slow and messed ??? Also When i steam video it plays back fine05:37
misfit_toyanybody else have amarok hosed up after the latest update?05:37
kurtbecRuffles: well, thats where gentoo's portage system kicks and makes managing source compiled packages very easy.05:37
nalioth_zZzRuffles: it is used instead of "make install"05:37
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nalioth_zZzRuffles: it makes debs  (for easy system maintenance)05:37
Rufflesahhhhh05:37
Rufflesgot it05:37
Rufflesthanks :D05:37
tritiumColonelKernel, not off hand.  I'll look into it05:37
calcKris_k: maybe need to enable dma on your dvd drive05:37
Kris_ki did that05:37
Dr_Willisdouble check it Kris_k05:38
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Kris_khow05:38
Sonny_Wertzikcan someone tell me how to update a single particular package from an old version to a new one?05:38
Rufflesnalioth_zZz: sounds interesting05:38
tritiumSonny_Wertzik, is the new version in the repositories?05:38
calcKris_k: just run hdparm /dev/device as root05:38
Sonny_Wertziktritium, no but i have the deb package05:39
Kris_kusing_dma    =  1 (on)05:39
calchmm that should be working then05:39
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nalioth_zZzRuffles: it is very nice for system maintenance05:39
Rufflesdo you guys know if breezy will come with support for non-free media such as mp3, wma, divx etc ?05:39
kurtbecKris_k: have you tried playing the dvd with xine?05:39
tritiumSonny_Wertzik, where did you get it?05:39
nalioth_zZzRuffles: it dont make debian standard debs, but for your own use it's great05:39
bimberiRuffles: not out of the box05:39
Kris_kxine ?05:39
LaforgeOk i downloaded ssh, now how do i set it up to be able to remode desktop connect from another comp?05:39
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Sonny_Wertziktritium, from the software programmers site05:39
Damienkcan Ubuntu be installed on a 4GB CF card? if so, how can I get it onto there?05:40
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kurtbecKris_k: xine is just another popular multimedia player.05:40
ColonelKerneltritium, maybe export GCC="-mfoo -mfoo -mfoo" ?05:40
calcRuffles: those are non-free in the illegal to distribute manner05:40
Josh43Ruffles: a) they want to get away from non-free formats, b) It's quasi-legal05:40
Rufflesoh05:40
tritiumSonny_Wertzik, I see.  Well, dpkg -i foo.deb will install05:40
Kris_kis xine for amarok ?05:40
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tritiumColonelKernel, that's at least one way05:40
calcRuffles: though you can install totem-xine from universe which will play back most of it05:41
Rufflesso is it illegal to create a distro supporting such media formats?05:41
kwilcoxlaforge05:41
calcRuffles: yes05:41
kurtbecKris_k: no xine is a program itsefl05:41
woodwizzleI'm running breezy with beagle. How do I turn live-queries on?05:41
calcRuffles: they are all patented and the dists aren't paying per user for them05:41
kwilcoxlaforge: you dont need ssh to set up a remote desktop connection, i recoment using tightVNC05:41
Rufflesohh i see05:41
MadpilotPPCRuffles, you'd need to pay the owners of those patents - like Linspire does, I guess05:41
Sonny_Wertziktritium,  ok but i should say that it says my dependent files need to be upgraded...will that auto upgrade them too?05:41
vitriolhow do i use hibernate?05:41
vitriolis there a command to type?05:41
Ruffleswell.. what about slax (slackware based distro) which has support for everything nativelly?05:42
Laforgekwilcox ok i will try it05:42
tritiumSonny_Wertzik, no, dpkg does not grab dependencies automatically.  apt does05:42
Pickle_Weaseli am trying to resize my ext3 partition, but for some reason it won't allow me to do so, anyone have any experience in this area?05:42
kwilcoxanyone know how to reset icons to be application controlled? updating to breezy messed all my icons up05:42
Dr_WillisPickle_Weasel,  resize it with what?05:42
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calcRuffles: they aren't doing it legally05:42
Pickle_Weaselgparted, before this, partition magic05:42
MadpilotPPCRuffles, either they're paying money, or the lawyers just haven't caught up to them yet, I guess...05:42
Pickle_Weaselneither one lets me, i don't know why05:43
Rufflesohhh05:43
bimberivitriol: not sure about a command but it's an option on the logout dialog (System menu)05:43
Rufflessomeone must tell 'em05:43
calcRuffles: just like people pirate stuff off p2p networks, they can physically do it, but that doesn't make it legal ;)05:43
Ruffleslol05:43
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Hendricmy ubuntu clock is just super wrong.... it is correct in BIOS.. but so wrong even if i chose the right timezone.05:43
vitriolbimberi: ahhh ok05:43
vitriolbimberi: thanks for the tip05:43
Sonny_Wertziktritium, well that the problem for me the files are files that are already installed just there too old of versions i guess05:43
calcRuffles: however patents are sort of grey really05:43
bimberivitriol: yw :)05:43
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tritiumHendric, do you dual-boot?  Did you set it up to use UTC?05:43
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Hendrictritium, no dual boot... i don't know if its UTC05:44
tritiumSonny_Wertzik, that's part of the problem with using non-official stuff05:44
cdyhello!05:44
calcRuffles: aiui a patent isn't really verified to be valid until its been enforced which means a company trying to sue over it05:44
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mahangu_anyway firefox can 'save' my open tabs and re-open them the next time i load it up?05:44
tritiumHendric, oh, not the answer I expected...05:44
MadpilotPPCRuffles, Ubuntu is too high-profile to escape the lawyer's notice... smaller distros can probably get away with it...05:44
Laforgekwilcox how do i set up VNC?05:44
Pickle_Weaseldoes anyone have any experience in resizing partitions? =\05:44
Rufflesohhh about clock, i have another question, can't keep my clock in the right time.. it changes everytime i restart system, is it about bios battery?05:44
calcRuffles: so most people doing open source really don't feel like going to court to see if the patent will stand up05:44
Sonny_Wertziktritium, ya but some of the official stuff doesnt work right...a double edged sword05:44
cdy?05:44
tritiumSonny_Wertzik, like what?05:44
Sonny_Wertzikgdesklets05:45
MadpilotPPCmahangu_, I think there is a session-saving plugin for FF; Opera will do that natively...05:45
calcRuffles: many patents wouldn't stand up to scrutiny but that doesn't mean it wouldn't cost money to take it to court ;)05:45
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dmlinuxhey guys , how do i install a Gdesklet?05:45
Sonny_Wertziktritium, gdesklets05:45
poyiehow to change icon in kubuntu?05:45
Hendrictritium, oh well it uses UTC... default05:45
Rufflesgood point calc05:45
LaforgeAnyone know how to set up tightVNC?05:45
kwilcoxlaforge: ubuntu comes with a Terminal Server Client which supports VNC... will you be connecting to your ubuntu box or anothing05:45
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Laforgenvm05:45
Dr_Willispoyie,  icon for what?05:45
Hendrictritium, how can i correct this? the sync option won't help eithe05:45
Hendric*either05:45
poyiechange icon i mean05:46
tritiumHendric, resetting the time doesn't fix it?05:46
Laforgekwilcox: i will only be connecting to my ubuntu box form another computer05:46
poyiechange icon on a desktop05:46
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Dr_Willispoyie,  right click, select its properties and look in there05:46
mahangu_MadpilotPPC, opera, can i apt-get it?05:46
kwilcoxlaforge: install tightVNC on the other computer (www.tightvnc.com) Just the viewer is fine05:46
poyienothing option fo change icon05:46
Hendrictritium, it doesn't...05:47
MadpilotPPCmahangu_, no. But www.opera.com/download - there's a Ubuntu .deb file05:47
maximausmahangu_, there's a .deb on the Opera sit05:47
maximause05:47
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MadpilotPPC!tell mahangu_ about opera05:47
poyieok i got it05:47
tritiumHendric, what happens when you sync to an ntp server?05:47
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Laforgekwilcox, so i want viewer excutable?05:47
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kwilcoxyeah05:47
Hendrictritium, gives me the very wrong time05:47
tritiumHendric, is your timezone set properly?05:47
Ruffleswell.. i'm leaving for now, thanks everybody05:47
Dr_Willisi had to get the opera static build  package - to get it working under 5.1005:48
Hendrictritium, it is... very much exact timezone...05:48
Sonny_Wertzikgdesklets .34 makes my computer stutter ever 2 seconds---only noticable when looking at screensaver or playing ureal tourney05:48
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Ruffleskurtbec calc MadpilotPPC Josh43 nalioth_zZz bimberi05:48
tritiumHendric, no idea then05:48
Hendrictritium, oh, i got a work around... set my time to a wrong time till i get the right time on ubuntu05:48
tritiumok05:48
Hendrictritium, which is LOL05:48
Dr_WillisSonny_Wertzik,  ive heard some bad things about gdesklets. :(05:48
Laforgekwilcox, do i have to setup anything on the ubuntu box?05:48
MadpilotPPCRuffles, np, have fun...05:49
tritiumHendric, well, it works, right?  ;)05:49
Rufflesnow i'll go to ubuntu-br to speak my own language :D05:49
Rufflesbye05:49
medym05:49
Sonny_WertzikDr_Willis, ya some of them work and others can be fixed but i need to try a different version to find out whats going on05:49
kurtbecRuffles: later man05:49
kwilcoxlaforge: yeah, do a sudo apt-get install tightvncserver05:49
Ruffleskurtbec: cya bro05:49
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os2macis opera in the Universe?05:49
Hendrictritium, indeed... but i got the wrong bios time.. lolx05:49
woodwizzlehow do you turn on inotify in breezy?05:49
graigmy clock always messes up too.05:50
tritiumHendric, we'll try to sort it out soon.05:50
MadpilotPPCos2mac, no, but there's a Ubuntu deb, it's an easy install05:50
MadpilotPPC!tell os2mac about opera05:50
kwilcoxlaforge: you'll have to set up a password for your box in the tightvnc configs, then in the other box just type in your IP and you should be able to connect... if you go through a router you will have to forward the VNC port to the ubuntu box05:50
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Sonny_WertzikWhy are the lastest versions of packages not on the ubuntu repos?   some are like 5 versions behind05:50
Hendrictill now i'm still amazed on how linux-686 boosted my AMD sempron setup which is unbearably slow on 386 kernel...05:51
mahangu_Sonny_Wertzik, still on hoary>05:51
tritiumSonny_Wertzik, because only security fixes go into a stable release05:51
mahangu_?05:51
Sonny_Wertzikmanhangu...................ya05:51
tritiumSonny_Wertzik, if you want something more recent, run the development release05:51
Sonny_Wertziktritium,  cant find one on repos..they are way behind05:52
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tritiumSonny_Wertzik, I just explained why.05:52
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Sonny_Wertziktritium, ya but i dont care about security hehe05:52
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tritiumSonny_Wertzik, so run the development release05:52
jimHi, I got a question concerning version comparison to debian... specifically the installer, the dhcp client used and the 2.6 kernel installed by hoary05:53
Rev-Marcdoes Ubuntu support ndiswrapper and if so how do I use it?05:53
tritiumyes, Rev-Marc05:53
MadpilotPPCwhat's really frustrating is that a couple of things aren't being updated for Breezy, even though there are newer versions out, and even newer versions packaged for Debian... Screem is the one I've noticed...05:53
Sonny_Wertziktritium, there is no dev release05:53
tritium!ndiswrapper05:53
ubotuI heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper05:53
Dr_WillisRev-Marc,  yes.. theres a ubuntu ndiswrapper wiki entry.05:53
tritiumSonny_Wertzik, uh, it's called Breezy Badger05:53
nalioth_zZzSonny_Wertzik: in 2 weeks, there will be05:53
tritiumSonny_Wertzik, and when Breezy is stable, there will be Dapper Drake05:53
Sonny_Wertziktritium, ahhhhh ok i see now05:53
Sonny_Wertziktritium,  what is dapper drake?05:54
Rev-MarcI am tring to get my built in wireless adaptor to work (BCM4306)05:54
=== Dr_Willis wants to know whos in charge of the naming....
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Dr_Willisand slap them.05:54
nalioth_zZzSonny_Wertzik: the next version of ubuntu05:54
graigso with debian sarge,  do they release new versions when new stable versions come out?05:54
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Rev-Marcwhat is a wiki entry?05:54
kevogodThe next version after Breezy Badger, of course.05:54
tritiumSonny_Wertzik, it will be the development release while Breezy is the stable release.  it will be stable on April 200605:54
Sonny_Wertziknalioth_zZz,  whoa u guyz are way ahead of the game hehe05:54
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Dr_Willisat least Dapper Drake dosent sound like a  "Bean Eating Badger" :P05:54
AmaranthDr_Willis: You have a problem with Ubuntu 5.10 and Ubuntu 6.04?05:54
gigaclonGAIM keeps crashing on me05:55
jmganyone have any suggestions for a thin client distro i can install to hard disk from cd??05:55
gigaclonUbuntu?05:55
kwilcoxjmg: ubuntu05:55
gigaclon:)05:55
Sonny_Wertzikmeanwhile are there any other widget like gdesklets?05:55
AmaranthDr_Willis: Those are development code names, not official release names.05:55
Dr_WillisAmaranth,  im sick of having to explain to these new people i am giving Ubuntu cd's to - about the 'cute' naming schemes :P it sort of turns off the church group  to trying it.05:55
MadpilotPPCDr_Willis, Mark Shuttleworth names them, I gather, and he's the one with all the money...05:55
nalioth_zZzSonny_Wertzik: superkaramba and adesklets05:56
mojoRev-Marc: wikki's are collaborative web-pages.  you can usually edit what you see there if you register and log in with the site running the wikki.  wikki wikki web pages take their name from a hawaiian word for fast05:56
tritiumjmg, edubuntu has thin client support05:56
AmaranthDr_Willis: breezy badger is the code name for what will be Ubuntu 5.1005:56
Laforgekwilcox: can't find tightvncserver package05:56
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kevogod"Hoary" was not the best adjective to use.05:56
Dr_WillisAmaranth,  yes.. i am aware of whats named what..  :P05:56
jmgubuntu is like 700 mb05:56
Sonny_Wertziknalioth_zZz, super karamba...can i run that in gnome?05:56
gigaclonDr_Willis, just call it Hoary or 5.0405:56
kevogodMainly because of how it sounds...05:56
jimso, for the ubuntu side, what does the hoary installer boot for 2.6 kernel (which version) and could I get a copy of the config file?05:56
nalioth_zZzSonny_Wertzik: yes you can05:56
MadpilotPPC!tell kevogod about hoary05:56
Dr_Willisgigaclon,  i call it by the ##05:56
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kwilcoxlaforge: it is in the Breezy default packages05:56
MadpilotPPC;)05:56
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mojoRev-Marc: You usu. see wikki pages for gathering info together as a community resource05:56
Rev-Marcthank you where would I find one on ndiswrapper?05:57
randomc0dehow do I set gnome to use sawfish instead of metacity?05:57
kwilcoxlaforge: it is in the univeral repository, make sure you have that05:57
Sonny_Wertziknalioth_zZz, Kool ...thx.....is it worth it...are they good?05:57
kevogodMadpilotPPC, Yes, but that still does not change what it sounds like. :-)05:57
AmaranthDr_Willis: So don't tell them you're giving them "Ubuntu Breezy Badger", tell them you're giving them "Ubuntu 5.10". I don't see a problem with fun codenames.05:57
MadpilotPPCRev-Marc, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper05:57
nalioth_zZzSonny_Wertzik: visit the websites of each and see what you think05:57
fmasiwhat should be the permitions of /var/www i change it by mistake05:57
AmaranthDr_Willis: Windows Longhorn, Windows Whistler, etc05:57
MadpilotPPCkevogod, only if you're not well read, then 'hoary' is a problem... ;) </literary snob>05:57
Rev-MarcMadpilotPPC thank you very much :)05:58
Sonny_Wertziknalioth_zZz, hehe yes i will..i got excited and forget heh05:58
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MadpilotPPC!tell Rev-Marc about docs05:58
mojokurtbec: i thkn my dvdrw prob where it won't recognize may be a bios setting, after goggling on that log error. thx again, TTFN!05:58
jimyou should use punctuation if you don't use punctuation you can't tell when one sentence ends another begins and ends here see you can't tell this looks really strange right05:58
kevogodMadpilotPPC, OK, you keep telling yourself that.05:58
kurtbecmojo: good deal.  good luck05:58
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randomc0deanyone know how to setup gnome to use sawfish instead of metacity?05:58
MadpilotPPCkevogod, heh, I will. :)  but you're right, Breezy is less likely to be misunderstood...05:59
jimI guess you just install the package :)05:59
mahangu_in super tux, how do you throw things?05:59
kevogodMadpilotPPC, Most definitely :-)05:59
graigk. i don't know how different distros do releases.  i know how ubuntu works.  where you only get security updates not new releases on ubuntu.   is that the way all distro's work?  are there any stable distros that add new software when it gets released?05:59
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Dr_WillisI envision a Bean Eating Badger as the Mascot.05:59
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ColonelKernelok im in ubuntu now05:59
ColonelKernelim trying to set up my gcc options05:59
kevogodAnd the Badger is the state animal in my state.06:00
kevogodSo @#$% yea!06:00
Laforgekwilcox ok found it, do i have to kill gnome to see it or terminal command?06:00
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bimberifmasi: my /var/www is drwxr-x-r-x root root06:00
Dr_Willisbadger dance -->  http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/06:00
fmasibimberi thx06:00
bimberifmasi: yw :)06:01
jimbimberi: that way if some goof breaks in as www-data they can't do things like remove the whole dir06:01
tritiumnalioth_zZz dressed up as a badger once: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=761  :-)06:01
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kwilcoxlaforge: type tightvncserver at a prompt to get up a password and start the server06:01
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bimberijim: i guess so :)06:01
ColonelKerneltritium, shoudl use export gcc="-foo" or export GCC="-foo" or what?06:01
rjordanHas anyone else had problems playing ASF/WM files in totem/mplayer?06:02
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nalioth_zZzColonelKernel: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-2.9506:02
stefanoheeelllpppp i am new in ubuntun and i can't listen mp306:02
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tritiumnalioth_zZz, he wants to configure gcc options, though06:02
ColonelKernelnalioth_zZz, ? im using gcc 3.406:02
Omnicaheya anyone here have a sec?06:02
nalioth_zZzColonelKernel: so put gcc-3.406:02
ColonelKernelnalioth_zZz, im trying to set the gcc options06:03
haslguitari'm trying to install Half Life 2 on linux with wine.  Has anyone ever done this before?  it says to insert disc two, but i can't unmount the first disc to put in the second one.  How can i force an unmount? i've already tried umount -f /media/cdrom06:03
tritiumColonelKernel, I'll be back later...06:03
nalioth_zZzColonelKernel: i'm lost06:03
jimso, for the ubuntu side, what does the hoary installer boot for 2.6 kernel (which version) and could I get a copy of the config file?06:03
ColonelKernelthanks tritium06:03
Omnicahaslguitar, VERY hard06:03
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Omnicahaslguitar, I tried, gave up after 4 hours06:03
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ColonelKernelnalioth_zZz, ok specifically "-O3 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fno-merge-constants -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -msse -msse2"06:03
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Hendric2woah06:03
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OmnicaI need help installing ... anyone have a sec???06:04
Hendric2well, i got everything duplicated with g4u... no more grub issues.. ehehehehe06:04
pepsihttp://www.speakeasy.org/~jbutera/pics/peyes.jpg06:04
haslguitarany ideas how to unmount a cd in wine when it ask for the second disc in the installation?06:04
jimI did, but it was up a sec ago :)06:04
mylastmorningdoes anyone know how to get snes9express to work?06:04
Hendricindeed!!!06:04
Omnicalol06:04
rjordanColonelKernel, -O2 and -O3 break things...06:04
nalioth_zZzColonelKernel: so append your line of suffixes behend the /usr/bin/gcc-3.4  (in quotes)06:04
Omnicaim throwing it on a acer laptop ... I want to install it, but I dont want to lose my windows06:04
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ColonelKernelnalioth_zZz, right on! thanks06:04
Omnicawindows sees 2 paritions, C: (with stuff) and D: (empty)06:05
Omnicaidealy I want it to go on D06:05
Omnicaim at the partition part right now06:05
Omnicaany idea what I should do?06:05
jimyou'd have to remove d and put linux partitions there06:05
kwilcoxtritium: fixed my icon problem... breezy for some reason uninstalled the ClearLooks icon set06:05
jordankwilcox i get and "could not open default font 'fixed'06:05
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Omnicajim: can I do that via the install06:05
kwilcoxjordan: server should still be open, try connecting06:06
jimprobably, from what I understand ubuntu uses debian-instalelr06:06
jordanok06:06
ColonelKernelnalioth_zZz, - I put a space in between the /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 and the " correct?06:06
jimdebian-installer does have a partitioner06:06
nalioth_zZzColonelKernel: you may have to work with the "06:06
jordankwilcox: not working still06:06
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jordankwilcox i will post at pastebin.com06:07
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jimbut you're going to have to figure out which drive/partition windows is talking about (the info that it's "d:" is enough to make a guess about where it is)06:07
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jimyou could try mounting it and verifying it's empty06:08
Omnicahmmm06:08
Omnicathats true06:08
Omnicathrugh a live cd06:08
jimthen you know what debian/ubuntu/linux calls it06:08
jordankwilcox: http://pastebin.com/38466706:08
jimor thru the installer06:08
Omnicaalrite06:08
OmnicaI will try that, thanks06:08
jimthe box you're installing on is the box you're now talking on?06:08
AlienEyehi, how do you start and stop services? (I'm used to running rh)06:09
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jimthey're in /etc/init.d06:09
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jimyou mean manually start/stop?06:09
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AlienEyeumm.. ya.. i would usually use "service httpd stop"06:10
jimor arrange to start at boot?06:10
jimmaybe ubuntu has invoke-rc.d06:10
jimbut I usually just do /etc/init.d/httpd stop06:10
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AlienEyehmm.. that doesn't seem to work for me..06:11
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jimis there init.d in /etc?06:11
AlienEyeahh they call it apache06:11
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AlienEyegot it thanks..06:12
jimthey do?! I'd call it aolserver... oops, revealed myself :)06:12
AlienEyehaha06:12
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s3[mn] rainIs there somewhere I can import a .kth kde theme file?06:12
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AlienEyeis there a doc floating around thats like a "debian/ubuntu for redhat admins?"06:13
wickedpuppyjim, yes ...06:13
Laforgecan anyone tell me what is wrong here http://pastebin.com/38466706:13
jimyou can import it from your room... you can import it with a boom ... you can import it with all care... you can import it anywhere!06:13
wickedpuppyjim, you can fidn out yourself easily you know ...06:13
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jimwickedpuppy: well I don't actually have it installed... you mean my kernel/install question?06:13
wickedpuppyno init.d06:14
nalioth_zZzLaforge: install all your xfont pkgs06:14
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graigis breezy stable enough to install yet?06:14
jimwickedpuppy: care to try your hand at this...06:14
d[0_o] bhello!06:14
nalioth_zZzgraig: yes06:15
jimso, for the ubuntu side, what does the hoary installer boot for 2.6 kernel (which version) and could I get a copy of the config file?06:15
AlienEyei've just install breezy.. and it seems to be running well..06:15
Severiangraig, to use for what.  I have it on 2 machines and it is doing fine.06:15
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nalioth_zZzapokryphos: you here?06:15
Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz , how do i confirm if my USB stick is suporrted by ubuntu?06:15
eythianShin_Gouki, plug it in and find out06:15
kwilcoxjordan: do you know your default font path?06:15
Dr_Willis:P06:15
eythianShin_Gouki, most USB sticks use the same standard protocol. It'd be a weird crazy one that was different.06:16
jimfirst of a few questions about that... trying to arm-chair-diagnose a problem with dhcp06:16
Shin_Goukieythian , :P ur funny idid! idid spend 3 hours with someone who knows06:16
Shin_Goukieythian , the strange thing is as follows:06:16
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Shin_Goukieythian , it is listed via: lsusb BUT we were unable to mount it :/06:16
Shin_Goukieythian , gwildor suggested if its ntfs but it isn't since i used it also under Win98.. :(06:17
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twystedone cannot format jumpdrives as ntfs windows wont allow it (security issues)06:17
eythianhmm.06:17
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SeverianShin_Gouki, what is the capacity of the usb drive?06:18
Shin_Goukieythian , Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0ea0:2168 Ours Technology, Inc. Transcend JetFlash 2.0 , thats the device name06:18
eythianShin_Gouki, does it come up as a device? eg mine has /dev/sda and /dev/sda106:18
Shin_GoukiSeverian, its 128 MB06:18
eythiannow that looks familiar06:18
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ubuntu_peu.ro06:18
graigis there currently any problems doing a distro upgrade to breezy?06:18
Shin_Goukieythian , no not ANY sda listing ://06:18
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Dr_Willishmm.. wonder if this could be the official breezy badger wallpaper :P  http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/badger.jpg06:18
eythianMy usb mem stick is: Vendor: JetFlash  Model: TS512MJF2B/2L     Rev: 2.0006:18
nalioth_zZzgraig: none at all06:18
eythianwhat comes up in dmesg when you plug it in?06:19
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tritiumgood night, ubuntites06:19
graigis there any problems running neverwinter nights on breezy?06:19
nalioth_zZztritium: be safe06:19
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tritiumnalioth_zZz, see you06:20
SOMNIVM|FACULTEtritium, good night :)06:20
Shin_Goukieythian ,sec06:20
twystedgraig, there shouldnt be06:20
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graigk ill test it out.06:20
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kennethhi06:20
Dr_WillisHmm.. i forgot that NWN had a linux client06:20
Dr_Willis:P06:20
Hendrici got this error while mounting an NFS shared drive... RPC not registered.. how can i fix this?06:20
Dr_Willisi never did finish that game06:20
graigyeah its pretty fun hehe.06:20
graigi play on the net on some of the servers.06:20
eythianHendric, you have portmap installed and running?06:20
SOMNIVM|FACULTEtime zones are wicked....I've just woke up :}06:21
thoreauputicHendric: install portmap I think06:21
Dr_Willisi saw some huge expansion/combo today.. then another expansion for $2006:21
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Hendriceythian, i just installed NFS and its dependents...06:21
AlienEyei've got the same problem and hendric06:21
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graigyeah, if you want to have the whole pack for online play, you should get neverwinternights platinum version,06:21
eythianHendric, I did that the other day, and it worked just fine. Try /etc/init.d/portmap restart06:21
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Dr_Willisgraig,  there was a expansion beyond that one also.. "king maker" or somthing i think06:22
Shin_Goukieythian , here my thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7212906:22
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Shin_Goukieythian , it included the dmesg coomand output06:22
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eythianShin_Gouki, ok, looking06:23
kennethi need a little help, I have a lot of files on my ntfs formated harddrive that i want to transfer to my home folder, right now the drive is mounted read only and only accesable by the root. how do i copy thoes files over to my home and make them belong to my normal user?06:23
Hendriceythian, i just did.. and still got the same problem06:23
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thoreauputic!tell kenneth about mountwindows06:23
humbolthow does hibernate.sh know where to hibernate to and how does grub know where to resume from?06:24
HendricOMG.. i think i need to restart.. can't open synaptics or any program damn06:24
Dr_Willishumbolt,  magic :P06:24
Dr_Willishumbolt,   test hibernation out first befor relying on it.. it was totally messed on my laptop sadly.06:24
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Shin_Goukieythian , wow someone replay with f dsik and i tried that command06:24
SOMNIVM|FACULTEhave a nice day, everybody! I'm going to "fuck" - that's how people here say "faculty" :">06:25
Shin_Goukieythian , now i can see the partion but how i use it..?06:25
eythianShin_Gouki, OK, so you've done the mkfs bit? (note that following those steps will erase the mem stick)06:25
Shin_Goukieythian , thats ok with me but i want to be able to use it afterwards also in windows?06:26
eythianShin_Gouki, yeah, this should work in both06:26
nalioth_zZzSOMNIVM|FACULTE: well we dont use it here, due to manners06:26
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Shin_Goukieythian , ok then tell me the commands to delete it AND then how to mount it to put data on it06:27
SeverianShin_Gouki, you noticed the response in that thread didn't you.  Your example was the wrong syntax for sure06:27
Shin_GoukiSeverian , i am aware &behind this now06:27
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Jedrickhow to play mp3 files?, it wont play on my xmms06:27
humboltDR_Willis: it worked on my last vaio with no problem at all. but now it does not seem to do anything. it seems it does not know how to wake up somehow06:27
SOMNIVM|FACULTEnalioth_zZz, I didn't mean to injure someone...it's just a words-game :}06:27
Dr_Willishumbolt,  yep... same issue.. laptops and their suspends.. can be a bit of a gamble it seems. sadly06:28
eythianShin_Gouki, to delete a partition from within fdisk use 'd'. To get a list of partitions, press 'p'.06:28
thoreauputicJedrick: choose the esound output plugin in option-prefs06:28
Jedrickok wait i go check06:28
eythianShin_Gouki, to save your changes, press 'w'06:28
nalioth_zZzSOMNIVM|FACULTE: we try to respect the words and ways of the english speaking folks here06:29
graigwhat all do you have to do to upgrade to breezy?   just change the apt-get sources, update, and dist-upgrade?06:29
nalioth_zZzgraig: see /topic   and yes06:29
thoreauputic!upgrade2breezy06:29
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:29
Jedrickim there but haven't seen any output plugins06:29
dmlinuxWTF whenever i start Firefox it goes to whatuseek.com no matter what i set my homepage at???????????/06:29
Hobbsee:P beat you nalioth_zZz...you're turn again next time :P06:29
Shin_Goukieythian, shall i paste in here the fdsik ooutput? u may find it interesting!06:29
thoreauputicJedrick: at the bottom from memory06:30
graigthanks.06:30
jimubotu: what are you06:30
ubotujim: what are you talking about?06:30
benplautwhere does ubuntu keep it's backgrounds?06:30
jiminfobot06:30
Shin_Goukihi how do i stop a running SSH server?06:30
thoreauputicjim: blootbot06:30
eythianShin_Gouki, use the ubuntu pasty thing. I'll find the url unles someone else knows it.06:30
crimsunShin_Gouki: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh stop06:30
Jedrickwhat memory?06:30
jimoh it's a bloot06:30
twysteddmlinux> have any extensions installed?06:30
crimsunShin_Gouki: or just remove openssh-server06:30
mdzhumbolt: hibernate.sh tells the kernel to hibernate; it uses the first swap partition or so.  resume is configured in /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf06:30
Shin_Goukity, crimsun06:31
thoreauputicJedrick: mine :) I meant I seemed to remember it was a t the bottom :)06:31
dmlinuxtwysted seems that my starter bar does it, is there anyway to change that??06:31
benplautjim: no, it's a blooper :P06:31
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jimubotu: blooper06:31
ubotuNo idea, jim06:31
Jedrickey i got it06:31
Jedricki found the esound and it plays now06:31
Jedrickthnx06:31
twysteddmlinux> go into the firefox tools menu and go to extensions and remove whatever you see in there06:31
Jedrickkool06:31
thoreauputicJedrick: no worries06:31
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SOMNIVM|FACULTEnalioth_zZz, whatever... I have another point of view, but I don't have time to explain now....I'm going out...bye06:31
eythianShin_Gouki, use this for pasting stuff into: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/06:31
dmlinuxtwysted only english pack there06:32
cafuegoHmm. I see HT is disabled by default on the SMP ekrnel in breezy. What do I pass to force it to enable?06:32
twystedtry removing it and see if that helps06:32
jimubotu, kp06:32
ubotuI haven't a clue, jim06:32
jimubotu, listkeys kernel06:32
ubotuFactoid search of 'kernel' by key (2 shown): kernelcompile ;; kernelhowto.06:32
jimthere goes my hub...06:33
dmlinuxits my starter bar that does it not extension. Anyone know how to change that in my Gdesklet "starterbar"???06:33
humboltDR_Willis: ah, the latter file still had the old resume disk setup. so resume disk is hardcoded in /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf for everybody else, that did not know!06:33
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Shin_Goukieythian, there ya go i UPDATED it :http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=389942&posted=1#post38994206:34
Jedricki need help i got this error everytime i turn on my pc. " error: failed to initialize HAL. "06:34
Dr_Willishumbolt,  dissecting Linux is so fun.06:34
jimubotu, listkeys debian-installer06:34
Jedrickwhy is that06:34
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ubotuFactoid search of 'debian-installer' by key returned no results.06:34
humboltbut does that mean, initrd is created every time I hibernate?06:34
kenneththanks06:34
Shin_GoukiJederick i can tell u: HAL means: Hardware Abstraction Layer06:34
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thoreauputicjim: if you want to play witht the bot, do it in /query please06:34
Shin_GoukiJederick so in other words NOT good ^^06:35
humboltdoes anybody know how to get my linux to use 1024x768 at the console by the way?06:35
Jedrickso what should i do?06:35
Shin_Goukixorg.conf?06:35
Shin_GoukiJederick no idea this is no common error!06:35
Jedrick:(06:36
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jimI'm done... it doesn't seem to know what I'm after... could someone tell me what hoary installer boots, which kernel? also which dhcp client is used when the net gets brought up by the installer?06:36
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Jedrickhow to play video files on totem movie player?06:36
humboltI have vga=791 and it complains about not finding vesafb.ko in initrd but then magically use 1024 mode. so I assume there must be a way to make it use 1024 without using vesafb?!06:36
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edgarinHowto install pygestor in Ubuntu??06:36
Shin_Goukieythian, were u able to read the fdisk output?06:36
Josh43Jedrick: FOr the HAL problem, try updating your bios06:36
Bazkaz!ntfs06:36
ubotuwell, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.06:36
JedrickHow to update bios?06:36
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Laforgewith vnc do i connect to external or internal ip?06:37
graighi, i edited the apt repository file, and when i did apt-update it gives an error.  couldn't stat source package list cdrom06:37
jimJedrick: check your motherboard manual.06:37
eythianShin_Gouki, looking. I'm also making food, so slow to reply :)06:37
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Shin_Goukieythian, dont hurry! food is MORE important , i can tell :)06:38
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Shin_Goukihi! were do i disable autostart for my SSH server, i want to start it manualy via cmd?06:38
Jedrickhow to play video files on totem movie player?06:38
jimalso bioses are assembled for particular motherboards... be SURE you have the right one BEFORE you even start. if you don't, then you risk making the motherboard USELESS.06:38
Shin_GoukiJedrick , use Mplayer+Win32 codecs?06:38
Jedrickwhat is that?06:39
graigdoes it have to be us.archive or archive in the apt sources list?06:39
Jedrickim just new to linux so im not familiar06:39
Shin_GoukiJedrick , use wikipedia to look for it! its inside06:39
Shin_GoukiJedrick , thats not a problem look into wikipedia06:39
jimJedrick: why do you want to update your bios?06:39
Jedrickwhere can i find that wikipedia06:40
Shin_GoukiJedrick , go google and type it06:40
Jedrickok06:40
nalioth_zZzgraig: whatever is closest to you06:40
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jimhmm, I could head to vinnies and play some tunes06:40
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benplautanyone know where ubuntu stores it's backgrounds?06:40
eythianShin_Gouki, ok, that looks OK. don't worry about the warning, mine does the same. Are you sure there is no /dev/sda1 device?06:40
calcbenplaut: /usr/share/backgrounds06:41
Shin_Goukieythian, when i go into that directory via MC06:41
nalioth_zZzbenplaut: /usr/share/wallpaper(s)06:41
Shin_Goukieythian, which color should sda1 should have?06:41
Josh43hrm... I can run i386/686 binaries on my a64 build, right?06:41
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calcJosh43: yes06:42
eythianShin_Gouki, try just typing: "file /dev/sda /dev/sda1" and seeing what it says06:42
crispynixbenplaut: /usr/share/GNOME-is-NOT-Ubuntu ;p06:42
mr_roboto Shin_Gouki: removing /etc/rc?.d/S*sshd will prevent ssh server from starting on boot06:42
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benplautthanks06:42
Josh43Ok, second question is: how can I get the i686 binary for the latest vlc out of apt-get?06:42
crispynixnp06:42
greghow do i run a .bin file? i just downloaded java... Please...!06:42
Shin_Goukieythian, /dev/sda:  block special (8/0)06:42
Shin_Gouki/dev/sda1: block special (8/1)06:42
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jordanubuntuserver:106:43
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eythianShin_Gouki,  OK. what is in /media/usbstick? That's where mine mounts to.06:43
nalioth_zZzgreg: get this java06:43
mr_robotogreg: sudo sh <file.bin>06:43
eythiangreg: don't do it!06:43
eythiangreg: there is a better way to install java06:43
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jimdoes ubuntu have java-package?06:44
dmlinuxHey guys, ihave a question06:44
eythianjim: yep06:44
Shin_Goukieythian, note that i am NOT using gnome nor KDE06:44
_jason!java06:44
ubotumethinks java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java06:44
jimif I had a question...06:44
dmlinuxHow do you install Flashplayer if you just downloaded the .GZ06:44
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nalioth_zZz_jason: it's !javadeb06:44
eythianShin_Gouki, that shouldn't matter. I don't think they do the mounting, they just make icons appear.06:44
Shin_Goukieythian, the media has some floppy & CDrom NO USB06:44
_jasonnalioth_zZz:  oh... sry06:44
jimdmlinux: what do the directions say06:45
eythianShin_Gouki, hey, type: 'mount | grep sda' and see if it says anything.06:45
nalioth_zZzjava is no longer in the repos06:45
darius___When this next version of Ubuntu is released, will there be a way to upgrade my 5.04 install to it?06:45
seethrudarius___: there already is06:45
crimsun!breezyupgradenotes06:45
ubotucrimsun: Syntax error in line 106:45
nalioth_zZzdarius___: yes, see /topic06:45
thoreauputicdarius___:  /topic06:45
Shin_Goukieythian, seems to work06:45
eythianShin_Gouki, oh, actually mine appears on /media/usb0 ... do you have that?06:45
Shin_Goukieythian, were may i look the result??06:45
graigis the us.archive.ubuntu.com  servers less up to date than the archive.ubuntu.com?06:45
dmlinuxim oh hehe didnt see the txt file :P06:45
Shin_Goukieythian, nope just floppy & cdrom as i told u06:45
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_jasonnalioth_zZz:  the wiki has instructions for downloading from sun though.  I just did it.06:46
gregubotu: i tried that (apt-get java...) but it says that j2re1.4 has no installation condidate06:46
ubotugreg: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about06:46
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eythianShin_Gouki, you should have seen something like: /dev/sda        /media/usb0     auto...06:46
gregoh...06:46
gregokay06:46
jimyou have to get the .bin from sun or blackdown or ibm or whatever,,, then you make a debian package using the tools in java-package.... then you install the debian package you just built...06:46
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eythianOK. try typing mount /dev/sda106:46
thoreauputic!javadeb06:46
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ubotuhmm... javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java06:46
Shin_Goukieythian, and if i dont have? :)06:46
thoreauputiceasier06:46
jimand it does automatic things like install java plugin into browser you have installed06:46
nalioth_zZzgreg: read about javadeb above ^^^^06:46
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gregjim: how do i make deb? please- small words...06:47
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jimfirst install java-package06:47
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eythianShin_Gouki, then it's not automounting at least :)06:47
nalioth_zZzgreg: you read waht ubotu said above, or what ubotu sent you in a private msg06:47
gregyeah06:47
gregi did06:47
eythianShin_Gouki, but try typing what's just above and see what happens06:47
jimthen read /usr/share/doc/java-package/SUPPORTED06:47
thoreauputicjim: much easier to use the debs as above06:47
Shin_Goukieythian, i know the dmesg output should have telled u?06:47
nalioth_zZzjim: we have a better way06:47
eythianyeah, but I'm just making sure.06:48
jimwhat better way?06:48
Shin_Goukieythian, i tried VARIED mount commands some did work , but i NEVER found the directory were to access the data from the stick06:48
thoreauputicjim: ubotu jsut said06:48
thoreauputic!tell jim about javadeb06:48
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Shin_Goukieythian, plz again what exactly shall itype in?06:48
eythianShin_Gouki, try "mount /dev/sda1" and then type "mount" and it will tell you where things are mounted to.06:48
nalioth_zZzmr ubotu is gettin  a workout06:48
jimso ubuntu has been granted distribution permission?06:48
graigdoes breezy come with anything new like that beagle desktop search?06:49
nalioth_zZzjim: nope. i'm illegally offering them06:49
jimthen it's not better06:49
nalioth_zZzgraig: beagle06:49
thoreauputicjim: no, some people are doing it anonymously I guess06:49
Ryan_TI got a question, if i creat a partition using iPartition, can i install Ubuntu on it?06:49
nalioth_zZzjim: it is to the end user who cares not about legalities06:49
jimwell the good news is it's not that hard :)06:49
Shin_Goukieythian, mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab06:49
calcjava jre is in multiverse06:50
jimyou can be (1) legal and (2) not unnecessarily put someone else at risk06:50
nalioth_zZzcalc: not anymore06:50
thoreauputiccalc: in breezy yes06:50
gregokay- i'm getting it06:50
calcthoreauputic: yea06:50
eythianShin_Gouki, weird. type: "mkdir /media/usbdisk ; mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk"06:50
gregthanks....!06:50
thoreauputicnalioth_zZz: Oh really?06:50
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calcFilename: pool/multiverse/j/j2se1.4-amd64/j2re1.4_1.4.2.02-1_amd64.deb06:50
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calci accidentally installed it earlier tonight06:51
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cafuego_Ryan_T: Best is to resize the current OSX partition and leave in between 4 and whatever GB free at the end of the drive. The Ubuntu installer cna then use that free space to create its partitions (it needs 3 or more, for booting etc)06:51
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cafuego_calc: That 64bit jre doesn't work with OOo2 though.06:51
nalioth_zZzRyan_T: i wish you the best of luck with iPartition. i never could figure out how to get it to work06:52
eythianShin_Gouki, then look in /media/usbdisk06:52
calccafuego_: ok, i don't really care since i don't use anything that uses java anyway06:52
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Shin_Goukieythian, u did it :)06:52
thoreauputiccalc: IIRC that would be Blackdown Java06:52
Shin_Goukieythian, its finally worked :)06:52
calcthoreauputic: it is06:52
cafuego_and the 1.4 jre also has a habit of doing poo.06:52
calcwill be nice when gnu classpath is fully 1.4/1.5 compliant06:52
mylastmorningdoes anyone use snes?06:52
eythianShin_Gouki, cool. I don't know why it wasn't automounting however.06:52
Shin_Goukieythian, plz tell me what to do this & next time i want to plug in?06:52
jimwhy does ubuntu need 3 partitions?06:53
thoreauputicjim: it doesn't06:53
Crazy_Manshould only need 206:53
crimsunit doesn't, it needs one.06:53
mahangu_jim, it doesn't06:53
mahangu_bah, sorry thoreauputic, lagt06:53
Crazy_Manwell, needs one.....recommend swap?06:53
crimsunyou don't have to make a swap if you don't want06:53
Crazy_Man*recommended06:53
calcyou can always use a swapfile as well06:54
eythianadd this line to /etc/fstab: /dev/sda1  /media/usbdisk  auto  rw,user,noauto  0  006:54
jimcafuego_, why are three partitions needed?06:54
mylastmorningQUESTION: whats that program called to modify the gnome menu?06:54
mylastmorning!gnome06:54
ubotuit has been said that gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.06:54
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eythianShin_Gouki, then you can just 'mount /media/usbdisk' and it'll work.06:54
mahangu_mylastmorning, smeg06:54
mahangu_ubotu tell mylastmorning about smeg06:54
jimupdate-menus06:54
mylastmorningthx mahangu ^_^06:54
jimI guess :)06:54
cafuego_jim: it wants a data aprtition, but also a yaboot HFS bootstrap one.06:54
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dmlinuxhey guys, i cant hear any sound from Firefox's flashplayer06:54
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jimoic06:55
calcjim: menu-xdg (which is what update-menus calls) just does the debian menu06:55
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cafuego_jim: booting linux on macs is a bit voodoo ;-)06:55
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dmlinuxhey guys, i cant hear any sound from Firefox's flashplayer , does anyone else have this problem??06:55
mahangu_dmlinux, i don't DO flash :)06:55
eythiandmlinux, not me.06:55
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dmlinuxmahangu_, how do you play videos on the net then06:56
cafuego_Crazy_Man: And no, you don't need a partition for swap, you cna swap onto a file on / just fine.06:56
mahangu_dmlinux, flash videos?06:56
Ryan_Tim worried about the installer, because i dont want it to delete my entire harddrive06:56
mahangu_eh, i download the stuff i need06:56
cowbudwhat is the easiest way to edit pdfs? or can I edit pdfs on my ubuntu?06:56
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jimdmlinux: better to find out what problem you have and why you have it :) better chance of getting help or fixing it yourself06:56
mahangu_brb06:56
mahangu_gotta study a little06:56
dmlinuxmahangu_, well videos on Cnet, i just installed flash, what else do i need to install?06:56
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graigdmlinux: if you have problems with flash it might be because your soundcard doesn't support hardware mixing, and only mixing through ESD (a software mixer).   Flash can't use ESD.06:56
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mahangu_dmlinux, i have no idea, havent used CNET videos06:57
Ryan_Tdo u have to do a clean install to create partitions with the installer?06:57
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LaschWI'm looking for the ipt_TTL (Target) kernel patch of iptables. (not ipt_ttl which is the match module). But I can't find the patch, neither on iptables.org nor on netfilter.org.06:57
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dmlinuxgraig, it works in windows XP just fine :P06:57
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jimRyan_T: no, you can arrange to either ignore existing partitions or else mount them without erasing them06:57
Hendricdamn RPC... i don't have this problem before. i've reinstalled breezy 10x for 2 days.. and this happend for the first time. any help?06:57
mylastmorninghey mahangu_ how do you install the deb?06:58
Shin_Goukieythian, oho is it posiible to delete the fstab file?by mistake?06:58
eythianShin_Gouki, umm. Don't delete it.06:58
calcShin_Gouki: you can delete anything on your system by mistake ;)06:58
Shin_Goukishit06:58
Shin_Gouki^^06:58
nalioth_zZzmylastmorning: sudo dpkg -i file.deb06:58
calcincluding eg /dev/null  which happens to be very bad06:58
jimRyan_T: also if you already have ubuntu/debian/whatever installed, you can create/add/format partitions and then mount them wherever you want06:58
mylastmorningI get errors with smeg.deb nalioth_zZz06:58
Shin_Goukieythian, how , were do i RE get it?06:58
jimand you don't need the installer for that last part06:58
eythianShin_Gouki, don't do anything, and you should be able to find some of the stuff in it in /etc/mtab06:58
crimsunLaschW: um, it's in patch-o-matic06:58
thoreauputicmylastmorning: use the script on the site06:59
nalioth_zZzmylastmorning: use the installsmeg script from the home page if you're using hoary06:59
Hendrici got this "RPC not registered" error when mounting NFS drives... help me!!!06:59
mylastmorninghow do you run the script nalioth_zZz?06:59
calvinDoes anyone know how to install BIN files in ubuntu?06:59
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nalioth_zZzmylastmorning: sh installsmeg06:59
thoreauputicHendric: did you install nfs-kernel-server ?06:59
seethrucalvin: as in a cd image?06:59
eythianShin_Gouki, or I can past you my one and you can use that as a template to recreate your own06:59
dmlinuxgraig, it works in windows XP just fine :P06:59
mylastmorninghmm07:00
mylastmorningdoesn't work07:00
cafuego_Hendric: Install portmap07:00
Hendricthoreauputic, yes... i've installed breezy 10x with NFS using synaptics and everythings fine.. this happened for the first time.07:00
calvinno, it's Realplayer for linux and it downloaded as a bin file07:00
mylastmorningnalioth, that script doesn't work.07:00
nalioth_zZzmylastmorning: chmod +x installsmeg && ./installsmeg07:00
calvinI'm not sure what type of a file that is07:00
Hendriccafuego, portmap is running... it installs with NFS on synaptcis07:00
LaschWcrimsun: Hhhm, no tarball for download? To be honest I'm no friend of patch-o-matic... ;_)07:00
tristanmikecalvin, there are instructions on the site07:00
cafuego_calvin: priprietary & rap. Try helixplayer.07:00
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dsfasAnyone know how I can get raw php files off a server?07:00
jimRyan_T: all I'm saying is you have a LOT of choices as to what you can do, both during install or after installing07:00
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seethrudmlinux: flash uses software mixing in windows as well, search the howto forum on ubuntuforums.com, I know theres a tutorial there for flash sounds.07:01
cafuego_Hendric: On the server AND the clients.07:01
Hendriccafuego, on every unit...07:01
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cafuego_Hendric: firewall?07:01
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dmlinuxseethru, will this work for videos on Cnet? or anywhere on the net for that matter07:01
Severiancafuego_, If you install Helix, is there a plugin to play real audio streams?07:01
HendricHendric, my other 5 pcs were mounted ok.. but this 1 i just installed last night got this error...07:01
mylastmorninghow do I upgrade gnome nalioth_zZz I've got gnome-1.007:01
Ryan_TJim: So basicaly it will create a partition for its self to run on durring the instalation without erasing my harddrive?07:01
mojodid anyone update breezy today?07:01
seethrudmlinux: I don't know, I haven't done it as I have an Audigy 2 ZS, which is a hardware mixing soundcard07:02
Crazy_ManI did07:02
cafuego_Severian: No idea.07:02
mojoDoes your graphical bootup still work?07:02
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Severianmojo, early this morning.  Does that count.  No problems.07:02
jimif you have unpartitioned space07:02
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cafuego_Mojo: mine does07:02
Crazy_ManI don't use a graphical bootup ;)07:02
Crazy_ManI don't even use gnome07:02
Hendriccafuego_, my other 5 pcs were mounted ok.. but this 1 i just installed last night got this error...07:02
Ryan_TJim: Yes, i do not have and partitions07:02
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mojodo you know where the options for that is?07:02
Ryan_TJim: *any partitions07:02
mylastmorninghow do I upgrade gnome I've got gnome-1.0?07:03
jimso you're using one volume on each entire drive07:03
LaschWcrimsun: It would be good if there would be ipt_TTL deb's for linux-image(s) offered by Ubuntu: I can't beleve that I'm the only one who has a fussy inet provider who don't alow more than one computer per Line...07:03
Crazy_Manmy ubuntu install = debian with ubuntu repositories for apt07:03
jimCrazy_Man: Crazy_Man :)07:03
crimsunLaschW: absolutely no go for Breezy. Perhaps Dapper.07:03
Crazy_Manjim:?07:03
mojowhat is you graphical interface Crazy?07:03
jimsee prev line...07:03
Crazy_ManI log into TTY07:03
mylastmorninghow do I upgrade gnome I've got gnome-1.0?07:04
LaschWcrimsun: Even not for multiverse?07:04
Crazy_Manthen startxfce4 when I want to get into X07:04
crimsunLaschW: not even for multiverse.07:04
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thoreauputicmylastmorning: there's no way you have gnome-1.0 on ubuntu :)07:04
Mustard5ubotu: tell Mustard5 about ubotu07:04
Hendriccan anyone help me??07:04
Shin_Goukieythian, that would be nice plz do so07:04
Crazy_ManHendric, what's up?07:04
jimRyan_T: you might wish to put linux on a separate, new, blank drive07:04
haslguitarcan someone help me with a compile error?07:05
jimthat would be the easiest approach07:05
thoreauputicmylastmorning: on Hoary it's 2.10 , on breezy 2.1207:05
mylastmorningthoreauputic,  I've got 2.1007:05
HendricCrazy_Man, i got this RPC not registered when mounting NFS drives... my other units doesn't have this error.. only on this unit i just installed last night.07:05
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jimhaslguitar: trade ya for 1 guitar :)07:05
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thoreauputicmylastmorning: then you are on hoary07:05
mylastmorningthoreauputic,  how do I update it?07:05
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mojoIs the 686 SMP kernel for my Pentium 4ghz w/ hyperthreading the best one for me?07:05
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mylastmorningor can I?07:05
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thoreauputicmylastmorning: upgrade to breezy07:05
graigdoes sound support in hoary use ESD still?07:05
graigi mean breezy.07:05
Crazy_ManHendric, sorry, I don't much about NFS drives....07:05
mylastmorninghow do I do that thoreauputic?07:05
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graigdoes breezy use ESD07:05
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ljlolelanybody really good with gnumeric here?07:06
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Crazy_Mantry google07:06
crimsunmojo: HT is disabled by default.07:06
thoreauputic!tell mylastmorning about breezy07:06
jimany plans for ubuntu to use jack audio connection kit?07:06
crimsungraig: yes07:06
Hendricwell ok..07:06
LaschWcrimsun: Inofficial ones? *whisperingaprayer*07:06
haslguitarcan someone help me with a compile error?07:06
Crazy_Manor the ubuntu forums07:06
jimhaslguitar: trade ya for 1 guitar :)07:06
thoreauputicmylastmorning: it's also in the channel /topic07:06
calvinhow do I make a Bin file executable?07:06
eythianShin_Gouki, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2809 -- that'll get you started I hope. Keep in mind that I probably have more junk than most desktop machines in there.07:06
crimsunLaschW: unofficial what?07:06
mojoHT is disabled in the SMP kernel?07:06
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Crazy_Manhaslguitar, what is it?07:06
cafuego_crimsun: Yes. Very rude.07:06
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darius___how often do Universe packages get updated?  I've been fighting with an old version of gnucash for the last several months.07:06
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crimsunmojo: absolutely07:06
haslguitarhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/ng0cCt49.html  go there and you can see my error07:06
Severiancalvin   sudo chmod +x name.bin07:06
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mojo:( does it say hgow to enable it in the forums?07:07
mojo*how07:07
crimsuncafuego_: I missed something...07:07
eythianSeverian, you won't need sudo provided you own the file.07:07
jimhaslguitar: so what are you writing/07:07
jim?07:07
LaschWcrimsun: Backports, inofficial repositories, (security fixes), ... ;-)07:07
SeverianTrue, I was trying to be safe.07:07
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Crazy_Manhaslguitar, mind if I see your code?07:07
haslguitarjim, i'm not writing a program or anything... i'm jsut trying to compile winex, otherwise cedega... andi 'm getting an error07:08
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haslguitarnot at all. its not mine and its under gnu07:08
Crazy_Manoh ok07:08
Crazy_Mannevermind then07:08
haslguitardo you need that file?07:08
haslguitaroh ok07:08
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crimsunLaschW: at this stage nothing is going to be applied to the kernel sources unless it's non-invasive regression fixes. No new features are going in. Multiverse wouldn't be the proper place for it anyhow; it's only concerned with licensing issues.07:08
haslguitarCrazy_Man, would you still like to see it?07:08
jimhmm, you're getting the silly bots too07:08
crimsunLaschW: there is nothing preventing you from applying it yourself, though.07:08
LaschWcrimsun: OK, seems I have to have a closer look to patch-o-matic again...07:08
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Crazy_Manhaslguitar, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1877&forum=4&post_id=922107:09
cafuego_haslguitar: Yeah, at that point in the compilation process it's normally afe to rm -rf the source tree and try again on the next version.07:09
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cafuego_haslguitar: You COULD try an older gcc.07:09
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Shin_Goukieythian, plz some "last" bugging from me: if i remove the stick and RE stick it , what do i need to mount it?07:09
LaschWcrimsun: BTW. 'it's only concerned with licensing issues', licensing issues of this particular module or in general07:09
benplautwhere does gnome store themes?07:09
jimor maybe you untarred one version over another version before you tried to builsd07:09
jim?07:09
benplauterr07:09
benplautgdm themes07:10
RaDiNhello!07:10
graigyou can put them in your home directory benplaut,  under user/.themes07:10
jimyello07:10
RaDiN:)07:10
crimsunLaschW: in general. For instance, if it were to be non-maintainable by the kernel crew, it'd be in universe.07:10
eythianShin_Gouki, before you remove it: 'umount /media/usbstick', when you plug it in: 'mount /media/usbstick'07:10
Shin_Goukii need an "rich" text editor07:10
crimsunLaschW: I presume the license is GPL...07:10
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graig.themes   the dot means it's hidden, so you'll have to hit ctrl-h to unhide the files with dots infront of them.07:10
zblachhi07:10
thoreauputicbenplaut: /usr/share/gdm/themes07:10
zblachhow to update to latest java?07:10
mahangu_isnt the ftp command - send <filename> <path> ?07:10
Shin_Goukieythian, thank u!07:11
benplautthanks, thoreauputic07:11
thoreauputic!tell zblach about javadeb07:11
eythianShin_Gouki, np07:11
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eythian!javadeb07:11
ubotujavadeb is, like, totally, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java07:11
thoreauputicbenplaut: for future reference - I just did   locate gdm | grep theme*07:12
jimdoesn't anyone know what kernel version is installed and/or booted by hoary??07:12
crimsun2.6.10-5-386 by default07:12
zblachnice link, but i need java to get bittorrent working07:12
Hendriceythian, can you help me with RPC not registered on NFS mounting?07:12
thoreauputicbenplaut: locate is useful for this kind of thing07:12
jimcrimsun, finally :)07:12
graigcool locate is neat, are there any other search things like that?07:12
Mustard5you can type uname -r to find your kernel version Jiim07:12
crimsunjim: packages.ubuntu.com tells you that.07:12
LaforgeI have having touble connecting to VNC, i set up the server but i can't connect to the sever07:12
mojodoes anyone know how to enable hyperthreading in the 686 SMP kernel?07:12
jimcrimsun: would you know how I can get a copy of the config file?07:12
cafuego_graig: If you're working in X, and on Breezy, there is 'beagle'.07:13
jimor a url to the kernel image package07:13
eythianHendric, oyu have portmap and nfs-common installed? You've restarted them both?07:13
zblachi've dl'd an rpm.bin file07:13
crimsunjim: grab a copy of it from linux-headers or from linux-image (/boot)07:13
bimberiLaforge: did you run "vncserver"?07:13
jimMustard5: that would tell you 2.6.7 :)07:13
Hendriceythian, i installed them all... my other PCs are working fine.. but this one got that error...07:13
Mustard5ah k07:13
crimsunmojo: the changelog for linux-source-2.6.12 tells you07:13
haslguitarhow can you force unmount a cdrom if it won't unmount -f?07:13
Laforgebimberi: i did tightvncserver07:14
Hendricd only difference of this PC is, i removed everything related to CUPS here.. since i don't print from here07:14
eythianHendric, you don't have security on the server-side machines that's stopping you from getting to it? hosts.allow/hosts.deny and so on07:14
thoreauputichaslguitar: sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom07:14
wickedpuppyanyone here feels firefox is really hogging the resources more than usual ??07:14
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Hendriceythian, i tried hosts.allow still doesn't work07:14
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jimcrimsun: ok, will do... one moer thing :) which dhcp client (and version thereof) is used by the debian-installer used by ubuntu hoary?07:14
LaschWcrabstic: Thank you very much for the hit to patch-o-matik. regards, Wolfgang07:14
zblachwhat am I looking to use to convert .bin to a more manageable form?07:14
LaschWcrimsun: : Thank you very much for the hit to patch-o-matik. regards, Wolfgang07:15
eythianhow about /etc/exports on the server. That can have IP restrictions. Also make sure that it's not in hosts.deny07:15
crimsunjim: look at packages.ubuntu.com/dhcp3-client07:15
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LaschWcrimsun: s/hit/hint/07:15
thoreauputiczblach:  .bin files you run, normally - not convert07:15
crimsunLaschW: np07:15
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bimberiLaforge: k, it might be similar to vncserver, you have to run the command vncserver (in a terminal or by ssh if remote) to get a server process running07:15
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joe__hello?07:15
Mustard5hi joe07:16
jimbello07:16
cafuego_thoreauputic: Better yet, create a Makefile that runs them when you type 'make install' and use 'checkinstall' on the sucker.07:16
joe__hi07:16
psichronlo joe07:16
aztektumis there a way to get system info, such as processor speed/type and all that in Ubuntu?07:16
jimmojo07:16
joe__can one of you show me how to install samba server by chance?07:16
cafuego_aztektum: cat /proc/cpuinfo07:16
joe__i'm pretty new at this07:16
zblachkk, thanks07:16
cafuego_aztektum: See also 'lspci' for additional hardware07:16
eythiancafuego, you could "checkinstall ./thebinfile.bin" too I think07:16
Mustard5!tell joe_ about samba07:16
Mustard5!tell joe_ _ about samba07:17
joe__pls! :)07:17
Shin_Goukimr_roboto, is there a search function which finds the ssh entry out of all rc* files? or di i have to look mayself?07:17
Laforgebimberi i have it running, its just when i put in the right name it says it can't connect07:17
eythian!tell joe__ about samba07:17
graig!tell graig about samba07:17
cafuego_eythian: It can do that? neet :-)07:17
LaschWjoe__: You will find HowTos on the samba.org site07:17
eythianhopefullt that one worked :)07:17
Mustard5thats it eythian  :D07:17
zblachthoreauputic, what about .rpms?07:17
Mustard5hehe07:17
Mustard5fumble fingers for me07:17
joe__thanks guys! i'll read up on it07:17
eythiancafuego, yeah, I used to use it all the time when I ran Mandrake a few years back07:17
aztektumw00t i got 987 bogomips!07:17
thoreauputiczblach: you avoid rpm if possible07:17
wickedpuppyzblach, you got to use alien to convert rpm to deb07:17
aztektumhehe07:17
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Hendric2whew...07:18
thoreauputiczblach: or use the "alien" utility on them07:18
Shin_Goukiin my rc0.d is an entry i dont want to delete it just comment out, how do i do this?07:18
Trashcananyone get totem playing their DVD?07:18
bimberiLaforge: do you need to append :1 (or something) to the name?07:18
Trashcanit just says 'could not read title information'07:18
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poptoneshello... does anyone know why the "floating point exception" seems to be back in mozilla-firefox?07:18
AlienEyeis it safe to use samba to mount my home dirs? (since nfs isn't working on ubuntu)07:18
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Laforgebimberi: yea i do, but still doesn't work07:18
cafuego_aztektum: less than 1000? Are you on a 486?07:18
aztektumIt's a P3 500Mhz07:18
aztektumlaptop07:19
aztektumI <3 free laptops07:19
cafuego_I suppose the P3/600 here gets 1179.6407:19
eythianAlienEye, I've had issues with using samba between linux machines. I use NFS instead (which is working fine for me with a ubuntu client and Debian Testing server)07:19
SeverianAlienEye, define safe07:19
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LaschWjoe__: Pardon me for urge to a HowTo, but installing and configurating samba is not a trivial challenge. May be the webmin samba module will be helpfull07:20
Shin_Goukihi! how do i make chacnges to my rc0.d in /etc? i want to remove the SSH entry07:20
SeverianAlienEye, does that mean a Windows machine would be accessing you Linux home dir.  That does not seem safe.07:20
aztektumAlthough it doesn't compute that it's a P3 500. I didn't think they even made P3 500 chips.07:20
aztektumAlthough I didn't pay much attention back then.07:20
aztektum*shrug*07:20
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SeverianP3 chips go down to 450 MHz07:20
bimberiLaforge: have you tried connecting locally?07:20
graig!tell graig about nfs07:20
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eythianShin_Gouki, uninstall the ssh server?07:21
shad0w1ehow do I find out what version of a given program, I am running?07:21
aztektumMy only other question is, what's the best way to get Ubuntu to use a 128bit WEP key that's 24 characters.07:21
Mustard5using synaptic shad0w1e ?07:21
Shin_Goukieythian, i just want to stop the auto start no auto install07:21
shad0w1eMustard5, using dpkg07:21
shad0w1ewell, the console07:21
deFryskshad0w1e, prog --ver07:21
cafuego_aztektum: WEP keys are 5 or 13 characters. Not 24.07:21
Trashcanubotu says i need something in hoary-extra, but I'm running breezy. Are there any problems running something from hoary in breezy?07:21
ubotuTrashcan: what are you talking about?07:21
shad0w1eah nice07:21
shad0w1ewait07:21
shad0w1ewhat if its a library07:21
pietro_spina!tell pietro_spina about nfs07:21
Shin_Goukieythian, i just want to stop the auto start , i do not want to uninstall it07:22
Laforgebimberi how would that be done?07:22
eythianShin_Gouki, what i do in that case is chmod -x /etc/init.d/ssh07:22
bimberishad0w1e: sometimes "<program> --version" in a terminal works07:22
thoreauputicshad0w1e:  apt-cache policy <package> is useful07:22
aztektumI meant 26 and my Linksys router would disagree that keys aren't longer than 1307:22
eythianShin_Gouki, by making it not executable, the script won't get run07:22
Shin_Goukieythian, thx07:23
Shin_Gouki:)07:23
cafuego_aztektum: That's nice for the router, but there you go :-)07:23
bimberiLaforge: Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client07:23
thoreauputicShin_Gouki:  sudo update-rc.d <program> remove07:23
Shin_Goukii did work very well thx guys!07:23
Jedrickhow can i access to windows.. i mean mounting to windows07:23
cafuego_aztektum: 128bit keys are realy 104 bits.  13 chars * 8 bits = 104 bits.07:23
LaschWaztektum: You tried WPA?07:23
cafuego_aztektum: You may look op the WEP standard if you don't believe me.07:24
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bimberishad0w1e: if you know the package name for the library - dpkg -l <package>07:24
aztektumah07:24
SeverianJedrick, do you want to mount a Windows share on the Ubuntu machine.  That is pretty easy.07:24
Jedrickyes07:24
aztektumNo I haven't tried WPA. I am gonna switcht to it once I figure it out, I guess you could say.07:24
aztektumI didn't even know WPA existed until a few days ago07:25
Laforgebimberi i am connecting form a windows machine07:25
aztektumI'm not l33t :(07:25
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SeverianJedrick, First, create an empty directy where you want it to be mounted.  Does that make sense to you?07:25
cafuego_aztektum: Just open the AP and run a decent VPN on it.07:25
Jedrickamm, i dont know how to create one, im new to linux :)07:25
crimsunaztektum: WPA is pretty straightforward with wpasupplicant.07:26
Jedrickmkdir /mnt/windows <-- like this?07:26
eythianJedrick, an easier way to start with is jsut go to Places->Network Servers. The windows machines on the network should just show up.07:26
aztektumI installed wpasupplicant, I just haven't made the changes07:26
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bimberiLaforge: yes, ok, but if you can try connecting from the ubuntu box to itself we can see whether it's a client or server problem07:27
SeverianJedrick, OK, I'll give you an example of what I do.  You may need to change it a bit.   I have a directory called /candi on my ubuntu box that is really a Windows share.  The first step was to create the empty directory.     sudo mkdir /candi07:27
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Jedrickk07:27
mahangu_back, just sorted out my greek and roman notes07:27
ksmurfhello all.... how do I add a modprobe command to insert a module before powernowd starts on my laptop?07:28
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Laforgebimberi, how do i find hostname and computer name?07:29
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SeverianJedrick, then you issue a command like the following    sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.2.170/public  /candi -o username=guest,password=guest,uid=name,gid=group07:29
ksmurfhello?07:30
aztektumhi07:30
carthikLaforge, try typing hostname on a terminal07:30
bimberiLaforge: use localhost:1 (or :2 or whatever it said when you did the tightvncserver command), protocol VNC, others blank, click connect07:30
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SeverianJedrick, I can go over the pieces of that command, or do you understand07:31
johnnythundershi, can i play mp3's from my windows partition in ubuntu?  breezy 32 bit.07:32
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SeverianJedrick, you also have to have the Ubuntu package installed that handles smbfs.  That is not installed by default, but it is in synaptic.07:32
crimsunjohnnythunders: yes07:32
johnnythundershow?  not getting it done here.07:32
zblachwill java -version always return 1.4.2?07:32
jordanbimberi: said connection refused07:32
crimsunjohnnythunders: mount your vfat partition with the umask=022 option07:33
eythianzblach, only if you're running 1.4.207:33
johnnythunderswill try, thanks...07:33
dmlinuxok guys trying to put on custom fonts, and when i try to change the font it wont let me select the .PNG file i want to make the icon07:33
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bimberiLaforge: does "ps x | grep tight" output anything (apart from "grep tight")07:33
dmlinuxnm i got it07:34
SeverianJedrick, did I lose you?07:34
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jordanbimberi: no07:35
mahangu_i do ftp <hostname>07:35
mahangu_and now im in, how do i send a file07:35
eythianmahangu_, 'put filename'07:35
SeverianI have a question about this group.  On some IRC channels I have visited, it is bad form to start a private chat without asking in the public chat first.  Are there any rules about that here?07:36
bimberijordan: what happens when you type "tightvncserver" in the terminal?07:36
mahangu_eythian, does cd , ls work in ftp?07:36
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eythianmahangu_, yep07:36
jordanbimberi: something about missing xfonts07:36
mahangu_what's the command to delete?07:36
bimberiSeverian: yes, same etiquette here07:36
bimberijordan: ah ha! :)07:37
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jordanbimberi: install?07:37
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limintest07:37
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eythianmahangu_, umm. 'rm' I think. Maybe del. It's a long time since I've used ftp.07:38
mahangu_can i use mv,cp?07:38
bimberijordan: yes, unfortinately i don't know which one(s), the message might give you clues though - then look for a package name beginning with xfonts07:38
johnnythunderscrimsum:  says motorheadaceofspades.mp3 is not an audiostream, i'm not sure the windows partition is vfat, i think it's ntfs07:38
Severianbimberi, thanks07:38
eythianmahangu_, I don't _think_ so, but I'm not sure.07:38
eythianmahangu_, try it and find out. Or type 'help'. You'll get a list of commands07:39
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johnnythunderscrimsun...i mean07:39
jordanbimberi: http://pastebin.com/38469707:39
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dmlinuxDoes anyone know how to install Gib, i cant seem to get it to install07:40
dmlinuxthe instructions are vague and not for noobs such as myself07:40
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mahangu_eythian, thanks07:41
wickedpuppygib ?07:41
dmlinuxanyone?07:41
dmlinuxits an icon packer07:41
dmlinuxi want to change all my linux icons over to Gant icons07:42
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Mustard5what type of installer dmlinux ?07:42
MadpilotPPCwhat's Gant?07:43
shiekhello their any female here? male hr from philippines 2207:43
wickedpuppylol07:43
tristanmikehaha07:43
shiekyup07:43
Mustard5hehe shiek07:43
AlphaFactioncan somone give me a hand with getting multimedia codecs going? ive installed all of the packages sugested in the wiki but the lipsyincy for all the films is way out07:43
thoreauputicshiek: this isn't a chat channel07:43
shiekhi07:43
wickedpuppyfind . "female" -print07:43
tristanmikenor dating, but too bad, is there an #ubuntu-dating? :P07:43
eythianshiek, this is a Linux channel. You think there are going to be many females here?07:43
wickedpuppytry that07:43
shiekheloooooooooooooo is their any filipino here?07:43
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shiekah okkkkkk07:44
dmlinuxmustard5, This is EXACTLY what it tells me to do::07:44
dmlinuxRun "make". The contents will be placed in the build/ folder.07:44
dmlinuxUse "mono gib.exe" to start the program.07:44
dmlinuxNOTE: You have to descend into the directory where gib.exe is located and start the program from there. Hey, it's a development process, I'll get it fixed.07:44
mahangu_eythian, can i write bash that will open ftp, change dirs and put the file for me?07:44
Mustard5!female07:44
ubotuMustard5: Bugger all, i dunno07:44
dmlinuxWoops pasting sorry07:44
shiekwhere u from eythian07:44
mahangu_will bash be responsive *inside* ftp?07:44
wickedpuppydmlinux, then type ... make ?07:44
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shiekhellllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooo07:44
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eythianmahangu_, it is possible, but it's not the easiest thing in the world.07:44
dmlinuxwickedpuppy, i tried that07:44
SeverianAlphaFaction, that is a common problem I see on Ubuntu systes after 5.04.07:44
thoreauputicshiek: please, not here07:44
wickedpuppyhe is very determined ... i like that attitude07:44
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mahangu_eythian, doesn't bash have a command i can use to ftp files?07:44
dmlinuxwickedpuppy, says command notfound07:44
MadpilotPPCdmlinux, if it's an exe, why are you trying to run it in Linux?07:44
ubuntu2hi, fcuk~07:45
AlphaFactionSeverian: any ideas?07:45
dmlinuxmadpilotppc its not a Exe07:45
mahangu_eythian, http://mahangu.org/ <-- to update this07:45
wickedpuppydmlinux, you got to get build-esential then07:45
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wickedpuppy!build-essential07:45
ubotuI haven't a clue, wickedpuppy07:45
shiekanyone from philippines ? pls pm me??????????/07:45
wickedpuppyeh07:45
dmlinuxcan i apt-get that?07:45
wickedpuppy!build-essentials07:45
ubotuwickedpuppy: Are you on ritalin?07:45
wickedpuppyeh yah07:45
wickedpuppymake is in synaptic07:45
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MadpilotPPC!+info build-essentials07:45
mahangu_haha07:45
ubotuPackage 'build-essentials' does not exist.07:45
SeverianAlphaFaction, I use SuSE for the systems I want to play video files on.  That is probably not what you want to hear.07:45
tristanmikeshiek, maybe you want to check #ubuntu-offtopic07:45
eythianmahangu_, I don't know. There are possibly commands to work it from the command line. Keep in mind that ftp is really insecure.07:45
MadpilotPPC!+info build-essential07:46
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB07:46
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AlphaFactionSeverian: fair enougth, just giving ubuntu a shot after funing dropline gnome for years, might just switch back and save my self the hassle07:46
dmlinuxwickedpuppy, i cannot find make in synapstic07:47
SeverianAlphaFaction, for virtually everything else, I like Ubuntu better.07:47
wickedpuppydmlinux, get build-essential07:47
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AlphaFactionSeverian: but without movies its not much use to me at all.07:47
desidaerius504has anyone succedded in getting Ubuntu to run on a Turion 64 processor?07:48
desidaerius504suceeded*07:48
SeverianAlphaFaction I will say that ogg theora videos seem to play fine on Ubuntu.07:48
crimsunjohnnythunders: is it XP or another version?07:48
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johnnythundersxp07:48
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AlphaFactionSeverian: so it seems but i have a few hnunderd films in divix and heeps of other formats07:48
MaTakswhere can i download that file in ubuntu with the script auto mount on windows partition07:49
crimsunjohnnythunders: fdisk -l will tell you07:49
bimberijordan: i'm looking but not finding much of any use :/07:49
crimsunhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab07:49
dmlinuxwickedpuppy ok i have it and im trying to make/ then the file07:49
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glickhowdy07:49
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dmlinuxwickedpuppy, but it says no rule to make target07:49
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MaTaksok thnx07:50
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wickedpuppywhat you typed dmlinux  ?07:50
SeverianTranscoding to ogg theora could be an interesting excercise.  I have seen a few reference that say the problem is in the audio system that Ubuntu uses and they just don't have it quite right.  At the speed this distro is progressing, I bet it will get fixed.07:50
dmlinuxmake /home/dm/desktop/gibe-0.2-src/makefile07:50
wickedpuppyi thought they asked you to just type make ?07:51
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dmlinuxdm@dmlinux:~$ make07:51
dmlinuxmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.07:51
wickedpuppyyou are not in the source dir dmlinux07:51
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ksmurfHow would I add a module to start b4 powernowd?07:51
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dmlinuxwickedpuppy what?07:51
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wickedpuppyyou are not in the source directory dmlinux07:51
wickedpuppyyou are at home07:52
dmlinuxhow do i get tehre07:52
graigbreezy is done downloading :)07:52
wickedpuppy... cd /desktop/gib-0.2-src07:52
wickedpuppyhmms07:52
wickedpuppyyou are not that newbie are you dmlinux  ?07:52
dmlinuxi am :(07:52
kingnhi07:53
wickedpuppyi can understand make and all but how to move to another directory ?07:53
mylastmorningdoes anyone really recommend breezy?07:53
thoreauputicwickedpuppy: Ithink it would be Desktop as well (case sensitive etc)07:53
wickedpuppyeh yah07:53
wickedpuppytrue true07:53
bimberiand no preceding /07:53
wickedpuppyi just followed him07:53
mylastmorningbecause my linux GURU said not to because its unstable.07:53
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Laforgebimberi: i looked using synaptic and it looks like i have all xfonts install, would a restart work?07:53
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AlphaFaction(15:53:09) mylastmorning: does anyone really recommend breezy?07:53
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wickedpuppymylastmorning, what is your linux guru using ?07:53
ksmurfHow would I add a module to start b4 powernowd? is it update.rc?07:53
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graigalpha, ill let you know. im trying it right now.07:53
mylastmorninghe's using debian wickedpuppy.07:53
wickedpuppylol07:54
dmlinuxdm@dmlinux:~$ cd /desktop/gib-0.2-src07:54
dmlinuxbash: cd: /desktop/gib-0.2-src: No such file or directory07:54
bimberiLaforge: you shouldn't have to, but in the absence of anything better to try...07:54
johnnythunderscrimsun:  its ntfs07:54
mahangu_what is the history of .plan files?07:54
wickedpuppydmlinux,07:54
thoreauputicdmlinux:  cd Desktop/gib-0.2-src07:54
wickedpuppypls pm me07:54
Laforgebimberi: ok07:54
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wickedpuppyor follow thoreauputic07:54
wickedpuppymy mistake07:55
wickedpuppyno /07:55
wickedpuppyand Desktop07:55
dmlinuxcool, now it got an error when i type make07:55
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wickedpuppymylastmorning, get a live cd and try for yourself ..07:55
dmlinux/bin/sh: mcs: command not found07:55
dmlinuxmake: *** [gib.exe]  Error 12707:55
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AlphaFactionso has anyone got working divix movies in breezy badger yet? if so what did you do?07:56
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wickedpuppyi don't have mcs either ...07:56
zblachthere's no java-1.5 package, is there?07:56
ksmurfor is it /etc/modules?07:56
ksmurfAlpha .... yes07:56
thoreauputic!tell zblach about javadeb07:57
crimsunksmurf: create /etc/modprobe.d/powernowd. In it, put: install powernowd { modprobe someothermodule ; : ; }07:57
dmlinuxwickedpuppy, i recieved an error 12707:57
mylastmorningwickedpuppy, what are you using?07:57
wickedpuppyeh i know07:57
ksmurfzblach search the forums for java07:57
wickedpuppyme ?07:57
wickedpuppyguess ?07:57
wickedpuppylol07:57
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mylastmorningbreezy?07:57
thoreauputiczblach: those URLs have java 1.5 I believe (check your msg)07:57
crimsunjohnnythunders: I presume you mounted it as NTFS then?07:57
wickedpuppydmlinux, eh ah i don't have a prog named mcs either07:57
wickedpuppymylastmorning, yes ... latest07:57
crimsunmcs is a mono package07:58
mylastmorningare you using ubuntu?07:58
johnnythundersyes07:58
dmlinuxwickedpuppy, grrr so what im isupposed to do07:58
bimberiLaforge/jordan: are you running breezy?07:58
mylastmorningwickedpuppy are you using the ubuntu distro?07:58
wickedpuppymylastmorning, yes ... if you wanna know more pls pm me instead pls07:58
mylastmorningok.07:58
wickedpuppyhere i help ...07:58
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crimsunspecifically, mcs is in the mono-mcs package07:58
ksmurfcrimsun... I have that one installed and starting.... it's p4-clockmod that I need loaded b4 powernowd.... same applyies?07:59
wickedpuppyah ... dmlinux guess you got to get mono as well07:59
dmlinuxwickedpuppy getting it now :)07:59
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wickedpuppyhaaa07:59
wickedpuppyokie :P07:59
zblachthanks thoreauputic07:59
crimsunksmurf: in /etc/modprobe.d/powernowd: install powernowd { modprobe p4-clockmod ; : ; }07:59
thoreauputiczblach: np :)07:59
dmlinuxOMFG now i have an error 108:00
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ksmurfthanks ...08:00
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AlphaFactionso am i right in thinking that getting divix movies working in Breezy is a problem?08:00
bob2AlphaFaction: no08:00
crimsunjohnnythunders: did you pass umask=022 to mount?08:00
bob2AlphaFaction: it's trivial08:00
johnnythundersyes08:00
crimsunjohnnythunders: or in /etc/fstab?08:00
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AlphaFactionwell i followed the guide and cant get it working08:00
crimsunjohnnythunders: ok, and what does file say about the mp3 file?08:00
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AlphaFactionthe audio stream is at a difrent pace to the movie08:01
dmlinuxwickedpuppy how do i run the exe it created?08:01
AlphaFactionbob2: what did you do to get it working?08:01
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calamarihi08:01
wickedpuppydmlinux, wine08:01
wickedpuppy!wine08:01
dmlinuxoy08:01
bob2AlphaFaction: install mplayer. enjoy.08:02
crimsunjohnnythunders: and does sound work in other applications?08:02
dmlinuxwickedpuppy, apt-get wine ?08:02
bob2AlphaFaction: perhaps the movie is encoded badly.  try re-encodign from your source material again.08:02
wickedpuppysudo apt-get install wine08:02
dmlinuxwickedpuppy, i always forget the install :P08:02
AlphaFactionbob2: so it will only work with mplayer not totem? cause i hate mplayers interface with a passion08:02
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bob2AlphaFaction: what interface?  you run it from a terminal and it pops up a window with the movie in it.08:03
calamarifor windows there are websites with lists of processes and what they do (to stop uneeded things from running).  Is there such a list for ubuntu?  For example, gnome-keyring-daemon.  Theres no man page, and I don't know if I need to have it running..08:03
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wickedpuppydmlinux, :P08:03
thoreauputic!tell AlphaFaction about restricted08:03
bob2calamari: just leave it08:03
calamaribob2: right, but is there a list?08:03
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dmlinuxwickedpuppy do i have to restart X to run wine?08:04
wickedpuppydmlinux, nope08:04
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bob2calamari: nope08:04
bob2not a useful one, anyway08:04
dmlinuxwickedpuppy Couldn't display "/home/dm/Desktop/gib-0.2-src/build/gib.exe"08:04
AlphaFactionthoreauputic: ihave read that and follwed the guide step by step08:04
wickedpuppyeh ah08:04
Severianthoreauputic.  He knows how to install the software.  He must, because he can play the videos.  The problem is that audio and video lose sync.08:04
calamaribob2: it's nice to know what I might not absolutely need, because sometimes my hdd light goes on solid and my system locks for stretches of 10-15 secs.. really getting annoying08:04
bob2calamari: surely google tels you what each is?08:04
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bob2calamari: then find out what is doing that08:04
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wickedpuppynow i am not sure anymore dmlinux i never use gib before08:04
wickedpuppysorry08:04
wickedpuppyyou gotta ask someone who has08:05
calamaribob2: I'd like to.. I figured knowing that was running and why would be a good start :)08:05
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thoreauputicAlphaFaction: ah OK - sorry08:05
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dmlinuxrestarting X see if that works08:05
MaTaKsHow to play video file on totem movie player?08:05
wickedpuppyMaTaKs, go to file ... open08:05
bob2AlphaFaction: don't even need windows dlls, it seems08:05
calamariMaTaKs: the easiest way to play movies on totem is to uninstall it and install mplayer08:05
eythiancalamari, dpkg -S `which gnome-keyring-daemon` tells you the package it's from08:06
crimsunjohnnythunders: heading out, back in 25 minutes.08:06
calamarieythian: thanks!08:06
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MaTaKsok how to uninstall totem? im new to linux08:06
bob2MaTaKs: just leave it08:06
calamariMaTaKs: you don't really need to08:06
SeverianAlphaFaction, how fast is the computer you are using for the videos?08:06
wickedpuppyMaTaKs, you can uninstall from synaptic if you wish08:06
calamariMaTaKs: but I would recommend mplayer, it's much better08:06
MaTaKsok., can i find mplayer in synaptec?08:07
wickedpuppyMaTaKs, yes08:07
bob2MaTaKs: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:07
MaTaKsok wait ill go install08:07
calamariyes, are you using an intel processor?08:07
AlphaFactionSeverian: dual 2400+ gig of ram08:07
calamari(or has that ubuntu bug been fixed?)08:07
thoreauputicMaTaKs: you need to enable extra repositories - see the URL bob2 posted08:08
woodwizzleanyone know how to turn inotify on in breezy?08:08
SeverianAlphaFaction, that is plenty.  I know the problem is worse on machines under 800 or so MHz.08:08
eythianHmm, I play videos at 700Mhz no trouble all the time08:08
MaTaKsim done with the repositories08:08
AlphaFactionSeverian: yeah it worked fine before in dropline08:08
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thoreauputicMaTaKs: ah OK - well mplayer is in multiverse08:09
oeahi08:09
Laforgebimberi: sorry was afk, yes08:09
oeaanyone else using breezy 5.10 ?08:09
HiddenFlywhenever i try to run cvscedega, i get following error: wine: exists lstat socket : No such file or directory, whow can i fix that?08:09
woodwizzleoea: i am08:09
MaTaKsey there are 7 mplayer, the mplayer-386, mplayer -583 and so on08:09
oeawoodwizzle,08:09
MaTaKswhich one?08:09
oeadid you have any problem with synaptic?08:09
bob2oea: best to just ask your question08:09
oeaIt keeps spitting out errors at me08:09
calamarimataks: once you install mplayer, run gmplayer.. you'll get a gui to work with08:09
SeverianIt worked fine for me on a 700 MHz machine in Ubuntu 5.04.  And current SuSE does fine, too.08:09
woodwizzleoea: not yet =)08:09
bob2HiddenFly: #cedega08:10
oeahmm08:10
bimberiLaforge: have you updated recently?08:10
HiddenFlyk08:10
eythianMaTaKs, the one that matches your computer...08:10
bob2oea: then paste them to #flood08:10
thoreauputicMaTaKs: type " uname -m" to see your processor type08:10
carthikMaTaKs, the one corresponding to the installed kernel version on your computer08:10
MaTaKsok08:10
MaTaKsok mine is 168608:10
MaTaKsok mine is i68608:10
eythianMaTaKs, don't use uname -m. It says i686 even when it's not.08:10
MaTaKsoh08:10
eythianMaTaKs, (eg mine is k6, but that says i686)08:11
oeaerrors pasted in #flood08:11
MaTaKsok then how to check mine?08:11
thoreauputiceythian: erm - well i686 works on that anyway08:11
oeai had the problem with the default sources.list as well, just uncommented some things08:11
eythianhave a look in /proc/cpuinfo08:11
oeatried hoary reposities but still didn't work08:11
calamariMaTaKs: uname -r08:11
MaTaKsok08:11
eythianthoreauputic, yeah, but the optimisations are different08:11
aztektumcat /proc/cpuinfo08:11
SeverianMaTaKs, yeah, do a uname -a and see which kernel you have.  That is the issue.08:11
MaTaKs2.6.10-5-38608:12
MaTaKs here08:12
Laforgebimberi: just did, this is a new install today, everything is updated08:12
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calamarimatak: ok, you should be able to use the 386 version of mplayer08:13
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SeverianMaTaKs, first, I would recommend you install the linux-686 package in synaptic.  Then reboot and install the 686 version of mplayer.08:13
Elisaone question is it possible to run ubuntu under wmware workstation 5.0 i cant find my pratition whe i try to install it in wmware08:13
calamariyeah, then it'd be faster :)08:13
MaTaKsok08:13
eythianI don't think mplayer version is dependant on kernel version08:13
eythian(course, it doesn't hurt to update that too)08:13
Rev-Marcto use "apt-get" I read that I had to edit the sources file but text editor won't edit it how do I do this?08:14
MaTaKsok im installing it now08:14
MaTaKsafter this ill reboot?08:14
MaTaKsand install mplayer?08:14
SeverianVMWare told me it works pretty well, but it is not officially supported.  They are looking at it to decide about future support.08:14
thoreauputicit realy isn't going to make a dramatic difference08:14
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Rev-Marcto use "apt-get" I read that I had to edit the sources file but text editor won't edit it how do I do this?08:15
bob2that's incorrect08:15
bimberiLaforge: you need to check that the fontpath entries in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf are correct.  They might still point to /usr/lib/X11/fonts but (as i understand it) on Breezy that has changed to /usr/share/fonts.  Make sure you back up your xorg.conf first08:15
thoreauputicRev-Marc:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:15
bob2Rev-Marc: apt-get is configured to work fine out of the box08:16
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Elisaok thanks Severian like i sad i cant find my wmware hd someone else that have tryed and sucessed ?08:16
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oeacan I install kubuntu on breezy08:16
oeawithout downloading a new image08:16
bob2Rev-Marc: if you want to change the configuration, yes, you need to edit that; sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:16
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bob2oea: install kubuntu-desktop, then #kubuntu08:16
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malvbreezy install went off without a hitch08:16
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Severiansudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:16
malvmost excellent08:16
Rev-Marcthank you greatly, I also would like to turn off this touchpad any suggestions?08:17
Laforgebimberi i need to sleep and will try tomorrow08:17
bimberiLaforge: as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6259608:17
bimberiLaforge: ok, good luck :)08:17
SeverianRev-Marc.  Go into the bios?  Buy a ThinkPad?08:17
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calamariI wonder if I could pull an xp, where it loads a minimal amount of stuff to get to the gui, then keeps loading stuff in the background.  Is that possible?08:17
Laforgebimberi, bookmarked page, thanks for all your help08:18
bob2calamari: of course08:18
bimberiLaforge: yw :)08:18
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bob2calamari: going further in that direction than people already have is no trivial, of course08:18
ilba7rany one know if thinkpad T43 is supported by ubuntu i am worried about the video card ati x30008:18
mahanguwhat's the easisest way to rip dvds to divx?08:18
SeverianThe T21 is good, but I have not tried newer than that.08:19
calamaribob2: is Ubuntu already at the edge where it becomes difficult to go further?08:19
bob2ilba7r: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/08:19
bob2calamari: no08:19
ilba7rthanx bob2 and severian08:19
bob2calamari: but any change of that sort requires knowing what you're doing08:19
calamaribob2: yeah.  I'd like to learn about how Ubuntu boots anyways, so it'd be a good thing08:20
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propagandhii cant see the logic in trying to change the boot process to be more like XP anyway08:20
abcdefgpuppy, I messed my pc up because of breezy08:20
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Severianmahangu,  dvd::rip, or dvddecrypter and autogk08:20
bob2calamari: http://www.gnome.org/~lcolitti/gnome-startup/analysis/08:20
mahanguilba7r, im on a t4208:20
aztektumilba check out ati's website to see if the linux driver works with that card yet08:20
mahangueverything works fine08:20
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aztektumor just take mahangu's word for it08:21
calamaripropagandhi: perhaps this is poor logic.. but if I can strip things down to bare necessities and still get a gui, that means if I want to run lean, I can more easily do so.. could have some kind of startup task selector to turn things on/off08:21
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Hobbseeare the breezy backports supposed to be used yet?08:22
mahanguilba7r, if both use the same vcard, i think it's good08:22
calamaribob2: thanks :)08:22
Severianmahangu, but tell him if you had to do anything special to get the video drivers installed.08:22
ilba7rthanx mahangu i will check the vcard for t42 then08:22
bob2Hobbsee: no08:22
bob2(or ever)08:22
deFryskHobbsee, whats to backport in breezy ?08:22
bob2Hobbsee: what would they contain?08:22
mahanguilba7r, nothing special, it seamlessly found everything, including wifi adapater08:22
Hobbseebob2: so the backports are supposed to be changed, as they were in hoary?08:22
Hobbseegood point, but it's past feature freeze i thought08:23
SeveriandeFrysk, how about Heroine Warrior?08:23
deFryskhehhe Severian08:23
bob2Hobbsee: all the backports people do is rebuild packages from release N on release N-108:23
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bob2Hobbsee: there is no release N yet, for breezy, so there's nothing for them to crib08:23
ilba7rmahangu no its a different vedio card08:24
Hobbseebob2: cool, ok08:24
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Hobbseebob2: what about when breezy is officially released?08:24
mahanguilba7r, i generally think it should be ok, check with live cd first08:24
mahanguHobbsee, october 13th08:24
graigk, i installed breezy, actually got a desktop this time, my tablet is not working.08:24
graigis tablet support built into the kernel still?08:24
woodwizzleanyone know if inotify works in breezy08:24
woodwizzleor how to turn it on08:24
bob2Hobbsee: then presumably they'll start dpong it08:24
HobbseeI meant, will the backports be used when it is released?08:24
Hobbseeok08:25
Hobbseethanks :)08:25
bob2woodwizzle: grep -i notify /boot/config-$(uname -r)08:25
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woodwizzlebob2: that returns: CONFIG_INOTIFY=y08:25
woodwizzleCONFIG_DNOTIFY=y08:25
Severianwoodwizzle, does breezy support beagle?  If it does, then inotify is probably there.  Otherwise, probably not.08:25
bob2woodwizzle: there you go08:26
woodwizzleSeverian, yes it does, but it does not have livequeries working08:26
ilba7rwill do thanx mahangu08:27
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woodwizzlehow can I tell what version of inotify is running08:27
woodwizzleif its .22 or lower I don't think its compatible with the latest beagle08:27
bob2woodwizzle: /usr/share/doc/linux-image-$(uname -r)/08:28
woodwizzlebob2, that doesn't tell me what version of the inotify patch is in that kernel08:28
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bob2woodwizzle: sure it does08:29
bob2  * Update inotify from 2.6.13-rc3-git8:08:29
graigis there a package you have to install after you upgrade to breezy?08:29
graigsomething about language?08:29
woodwizzlewell mine says:image-2.6.12-9-386/: is a directory08:29
pinkoI'm being asked for a kernel-image-2.6.10-5-386 when ll that seems to exist in the repository is a linux-image-2.6.10-5-38608:30
bob2woodwizzle: indeed08:30
bob2woodwizzle: it was a subtle hint for you to read the changelog08:30
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pinko*when all08:30
propagandhidoes anyone know of a way to play ASX streams under linux08:30
bob2graig: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes08:30
bob2propagandhi: mplayer08:30
propagandhiok sweet08:30
MaTaKshelp i have error when turning on my pc " error: faild to initialize HAL! " why is that?08:31
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bob2could be lots of reasons08:31
bob2you need to start by telling us what you did to it08:31
MaTaKsnothing08:32
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Omnicasomeone help :(08:32
Omnicahavin probiems after installation08:32
Omnicaanyone lickin around?08:32
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bob2you need to ask a question first, obviously08:32
Omnicakickin08:32
Omnicaheh08:32
aztektumhah08:32
Omnicawell, I installed it on this machine08:33
Omnicalaptop08:33
Omnicadual boot08:33
Omnicaand it seemed to install fine08:33
Omnicathen it needs to reboot08:33
Omnicaand it wouldnt install the package08:33
Omnicafroze at 4 percent08:33
thoreauputicOmnica: please stop hitting enter all the time...08:33
bob2so08:33
bob2a) complete sentences on single lines would be nice, b) what is "the package"?08:33
Omnicanow it will get into the text based part ... but I dont know how to install a package08:33
SeverianOmnica, it sounds like your filesystem did not get created right or large enough and you ran out of room.08:34
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bob2or the CD was corrupt08:34
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woodwizzlehmm, appears to be a compatible version. Still dunno why live queries arn't working then08:34
OmnicaI do not believe there are any packages on there, I want some sort of desktop envrioment, so my question is, how can I insall packages on this text based enviroment08:35
OmnicaDisc space was fine, cd should have been fine....08:35
Chousukesudo aptitiude08:35
Chousukeaptitude*08:35
bob2Omnica: first, see if the CD is ok to begin with08:35
jaydeguiais there a built in cd burner software in ubuntu?08:35
bob2jaydeguia: yes, the file manager08:35
Omnicaok bob2 how may I go about doing that?08:35
woodwizzlealso, the dameon doesn't start automatically08:35
SeverianOmnica, you say the space is fine.  But, is it really.  How large did you make the different filesystems?08:36
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bob2Omnica: boot the cd into expert mode, select "verify cd"08:36
MaTaKshow to setup speedtouch to auto connect on boot08:36
zblachthoreauputic, i finished downloading the .deb file, but i'm getting something about an error on line 1 !<arch>08:36
OmnicaI did the auto allocate thing - it had 40 gigs to play with08:36
Severianjaydeguia,  I use k3b.  It is great.08:36
thoreauputiczblach: did you get the right deb for your machine?08:36
zblachyup08:36
Omnicabob2, so for where it says type server, I'll type "verefy cd" instead08:37
jaydeguiawhere can i get k3b? thanks.08:37
Omnicaon bt08:37
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Omnicaboot08:37
bob2Omnica: no, not at all08:37
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bob2Omnica: you'll type "expert" or read the help screens it provides08:37
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bob2jaydeguia: why?08:37
Omnicaokay08:37
Severianjaydeguia,  Just install it from synaptic, like most programs.08:37
OmnicaI will try that08:37
bob2jaydeguia: also, /msg ubotu repositories08:37
Omnicaif not I'll be back, thank you for your help, have a good night08:37
deFryski just got up08:37
deFrysk:s08:37
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jaydeguiacan ubuntu workstation act as a server?08:38
thoreauputicjaydeguia: if you install sever stuff, yes08:38
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thoreauputic*server08:38
SeverianSure, I have one Ubuntu server that has been up solid more than 6 months.08:39
bob2a server is just a computer running network services08:39
jaydeguiawhat server applications have been tested?08:39
bob2what do you mean by "tested"?08:39
Severianjaydeguia,  lots of them.  What do you need?08:39
MadpilotPPCjaydeguia, do you mean Apache/PHP/MySQL, and that sort of thing?08:39
jaydeguiatested - meaning installed and found to be functioning well08:40
CaiN_SA!usplash08:40
ubotuusplash is, like, in Breezy: sudo apt-get install usplash, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss08:40
jaydeguiaMadpilotPPC - yes08:40
Severianjaydeguia,  samba, apache, postgresql, mysql, ond more.  What do you need?08:40
bob2jaydeguia: everything in ubuntu more or less works08:40
bob2jaydeguia: if you want a mroe specific answer, you need to ask a mroe specific question08:40
jaydeguiaSeverian - apache, mysql and php08:41
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Severianjaydeguia,  those are all good and solid.08:41
bob2all are supported, yes08:41
bob2that's not true08:41
thoreauputiczblach: I didn't see your reply until now, because you didn't use my nick: how did you try to install the .deb?08:41
bob2php is historically very flakey08:41
zblachsudo ./<name>.deb08:41
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MadpilotPPC!+apache08:42
uboturumour has it, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom08:42
bob2zblach: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb08:42
thoreauputiczblach: erm - sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>08:42
SeverianBut, when you say tested, I have a little qualm.  Are you talking a million hits per day or a few thousand or what?08:42
Bateau_how do i uninstall things i`v apt-get`ed?08:42
bob2Bateau_: sudo apt-get remove blah08:42
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bob2Bateau_: in future, it's simpler to use aptitude, tho08:42
graighey, when i boot i get some usb errors, is this a bug?or normal?08:42
zblachthoreauputic, bob2, thanks08:42
Bateau_bob2: aptitude?08:43
graigusb errors, in breezy08:43
Severianbob2, do you use aptitude instead of synaptic?  If so, what do you like better?08:43
bob2Severian: the fact it's not X-based, keeps track of dependencies and mostly works like apt-get08:43
bob2Bateau_: indeed. apt-cache show aptitude.08:43
graigwhen i log in breezy complains that i dont have permissions for the .dmrc file in my home folder, but i do have permissions.  is this a bug? or something thats not configured correctly?08:44
bob2graig: what did you do to get that error?08:44
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zblachthoreauputic, should this file change what it says when i 'java -version'?08:44
thoreauputiczblach: assuming you have installed a new version...08:45
zblach1.4.2 < 1.5.0408:45
erickGuys Im erick from philippines, This is my first time to install and used this great and easy to used distro,ubuntu08:46
zblacherick, welcome08:46
thoreauputiczblach: so which are you seeing? 1.5.04 ?08:46
erickcan I request help from you guys08:46
zblachthoreauputic, i'm still seeing 1.4.208:46
zblacherick, go right ahead08:46
SeverianSure, you can always request iut.  Who could stop that?08:46
thoreauputiczblach: did you install Balckdown? Is this breezy?08:46
thoreauputic*Blackdown08:47
zblachit is breezy. Blackdown? i'm not sure08:47
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erickcan I recompile the kernel of ubuntu? if yes how?08:47
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thoreauputicerick: why do you want to?08:48
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lll#gensan08:48
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graigin breezy, where is the ubuntu gnome logo stored?08:48
erickjust want to uninstall unnecessary services so that it will fit or maximize my low end machine08:48
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thoreauputiczblach: I don't know why you are seeing that - I would check to see what java packages you have installed and remove the older one I guess08:49
carthikerick: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20kernel%20compile%20howto08:49
graigOMG the screensaver user switching is cool!!08:49
thoreauputiczblach: presumably the ilder one has a different name08:49
thoreauputic*older08:49
zblachthoreauputic, can do. I do have the java-packages installed08:49
erickk carthik I'll check it08:50
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kerlnel20hi08:50
kerlnel20anybody awake?08:50
deFryskjust08:50
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jimyouare08:50
kerlnel20is is auto detect in ubuntu those flash USB memory?08:50
Bateau_is it any point to upgrade to breezy yet?08:50
Severiankerlnel20, not for long08:50
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deFryskBateau_, many have so there must be a point08:51
erickdoes anyone used ubuntu as thier workstation that can interact with windows?08:51
kerlnel20?08:51
kerlnel20erick: samba08:51
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wickedpuppykerlnel20, my flash disk is always detected automatically08:51
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SeverianBateau_, sure, For grins, for testing, or for newer version of some program important to you.  Evolution 2.4, maybe.08:52
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kerlnel20so when u plug it to ur USB port just like windows XP it can detect automatically?08:52
wickedpuppyyes08:52
graighmm, i cant change the gnome icon with any of the themes :(08:52
jimerick: you mean like installing cygwin on the win box and usng the win box as a x term?08:52
kerlnel20?08:52
Bateau_Severian: oki, but is it stable? :x08:52
Severiankerlnel20, no, not like XP.  In Ubuntu things actually work well.08:52
kerlnel20guys u am downloading the 5.10 version is stable already?08:52
graigwhere is the default gnome breezy icon theme stored?08:52
erickyeah I know kerlnel but compare with redhat that I used for how many years its different in terms of managing ang restarting the services08:52
bob2kerlnel20: no08:52
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wickedpuppykerlnel20, its always detected , why you got problem ?08:52
wickedpuppykerlnel20, i am using 5.1008:52
bob2erick: no it's not08:53
kerlnel20bob2?08:53
zblachthoreauputic, i've managed to change my java version from 1.4.2 to 1.4.2-02 by installing Blackdown and the update package from earlier08:53
sambagirlis there spyware problems with ubuntu or this is just microsoft issue?08:53
kerlnel20erick: so di i am learning ubuntu for my server set up in the future08:53
kerlnel20guys u am downloading the 5.10 version is stable already?08:53
wickedpuppysambagirl, spyware? what is it ?08:53
deFrysksambagirl, just M$ issue08:53
sambagirlwow amazing08:53
wickedpuppykerlnel20, yes it is stable i am using it right now08:53
sambagirli'm glad :)08:54
thoreauputiczblach: I have no idea what you are doing - I thought you installed the 1.5 version?08:54
jimsambagirl: no, the spyware just won'08:54
jimt run08:54
zblachthoreauputic, me too08:54
kerlnel20wickedpuppy: does kernel source included?08:54
mahangusambagirl, spyware linux is la nice oxymoron08:54
wickedpuppykerlnel20, you can always download kernel source ...08:54
erickI already edit my /etc/samba/smb.conf using vi and after you edit that config you will restart the service of samba by issuing this command /sbin/service smb restart? how can i restart the services in ubuntu08:54
Severiansambagirl, spyware is almost exclusively a Microsoft OS problem.  But, it could occur in any Linux if you are careless and someone writes one.08:54
jimnor will viruses, nor will those nasty email senders08:54
kerlnel20wickedpuppy: where?08:54
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wickedpuppykernel.org ?08:54
mahanguSeverian, it would probably be found and fixe08:54
kerlnel20no08:54
kerlnel20not that08:54
sambagirlmaybe microsoft write one08:54
wickedpuppythen ??08:54
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kerlnel20damnit08:54
ackhi guys question?  can you resize your partition in ubuntu?08:54
mahangusambagirl, ms dont write spyware (generally), it's just that windows is insecure08:55
wickedpuppyyou don't want that kernel then which kernel you want ??08:55
sambagirlis that sirilanka man?08:55
kerlnel20say kernel-2.6.12 is installed08:55
graigwhen you download a file with firefox, doesn't it default its permission to not being runnable?08:55
kerlnel20i want to recompile the kernel08:55
jimsambagirl: the truth is I woultdn't put it past them :P08:55
crimsunkerlnel20: no, linux-source-2.6.12 is not distributed on the CD.08:55
wickedpuppycan08:55
sambagirlhaha microsoft cia pentagon nsa interpol is all the same bush.08:55
Severianmahangu, perhaps.  viruses would be.  But spyware is a little different.  It is often consciencely, but carelessly installed.08:55
deFryskgraig, no08:55
kerlnel20crimsun: so how can i get the linux-sourse?08:55
wickedpuppyget kernel-source for version 2.6.12 from kernel.org08:55
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kerlnel20crimsun: so how can i get the linux-source?08:56
sambagirlnite08:56
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kerlnel20no not that08:56
crimsunkerlnel20: you need to: sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r) && apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)08:56
kerlnel20WHAT IS sudu?08:56
crimsunkerlnel20: add dpatches to debian/patches/08:56
jimgeorgia :)08:56
thoreauputic!sudo08:56
ubotuwell, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:56
crimsunkerlnel20: if you want pre-patched source, install linux-tree-2.6.12 instead08:57
kerlnel20debian patches?08:57
kerlnel20where?08:57
mahanguwhere can i get mplayer?08:57
zblachkerlnel20, sudo - Super User DO, also a twist on the word 'Pseudo'08:57
mahanguwhat repo?08:57
mahangu!mplayer08:57
ubotumplayer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106108:57
crimsundebian/patches/ is a subdirectory of the extracted source, kerlnel20.08:57
ackhi guys can you resize your partition in ubuntu? I have a drive08:57
kerlnel20crimsun: what if i am not online08:57
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crimsunkerlnel20: then you're not online, and you'll need to grab the source when you are online.08:58
thoreauputicack: install gparted or qtparted08:58
erickhow to restart the services in ubuntu?08:58
kerlnel20for some reason say i am miles awake and i want to recompile the kernel without internet connection08:58
jimkerlnel20: then you probably won't get spam :)08:58
zblacherick, which services?08:58
kerlnel20jim: spam is not an issue to me08:58
crimsunkerlnel20: otherwise, find another avenue for transferring the patched source to your installation.08:58
ericksmb? network cups08:58
jimkerlnel20: -miles- awake?08:58
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thoreauputicerick: usually sudo /etc/init.d/<nameofservice> restart08:58
crimsunhe typoed away08:58
kerlnel20for some reason say i am miles away and i want to recompile the kernel without internet connection08:59
erickah k thoreauputic thanks,08:59
ackthoreauputic thanks08:59
kerlnel20say like Fcs i can always download kernel-source.x.x.rpm08:59
thoreauputicerick: cups would be cupsys I think08:59
jimkerlnel20: then read the README file in the kernel source tree :)08:59
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wickedpuppykerlnel20, i thought you got no internet ?? how you download any rpm using fc ?08:59
crimsunkerlnel20: I told you about linux-tree-2.6.1209:00
jimif he got no internet how come he talkin here?!09:00
Jedricki need help, i try to  enable repositories and when updating i got this error " W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 "09:00
kerlnel20k one at a time i hate scrolling messages09:00
thoreauputicJedrick: why are you using marillat?09:00
wickedpuppyjim, whaa i salute you got ya insight ...09:00
Jedrickwhy is that09:00
ericksmb is not included in /etc/init.d09:00
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jimkerlnel20: you have no control over that :)09:00
Jedricki dunno09:00
crimsunkerlnel20: however, if you want to compile a kernel into a Ubuntu deb package, then it's easier to use that command I gave you above when you're connected to the Internet09:00
Jedricki just enable repositories directly and i get that error09:01
crimsunJedrick: see wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary09:01
thoreauputicJedrick: where did you get that sources.list?09:01
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Jedrickdont have any idea09:01
wickedpuppyJedrick, you didn't put it in ?09:01
kerlnel20here's what i want, i only want to download the kernel source based on the kernel i have so that i can modify some default set ups09:01
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thoreauputicJedrick: using nerim/marillat with hoary is a recipe for problems09:01
Cashelrehowdies.. anyone willing to help me with Apache2? The folks in apache are idle...09:01
jiminsight is for when I'm in da houze!09:01
Jedrickso what should i do?09:02
thoreauputicJedrick: fix your sources.list09:02
thoreauputic!tell Jedrick about sources09:02
jimotherwise I'm outta sight!09:02
CashelI'm trying to redirect a http://whatever request to https://whatever but cant figure out how to do it...09:02
Jedrickok09:02
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kerlnel20thats why even if i am not online i can still be able to recompile the kernel09:02
kerlnel20the issue is recompiling09:02
kerlnel20Cashel: do apache transproxy set up09:03
erickthoreuputic smb or samba service is not included in /etc/init.d09:03
jimkerlnel20: get the kernel-howto and read it... also install kernel-package09:03
Cashelkerlnel20, ummm could you elaborate?09:03
kerlnel20erick: maybe u dont have samba installed09:03
kerlnel20hehe09:03
thoreauputicerick: yes, samba is there if you installed it09:03
crimsunkerlnel20: get all the packages that are downloaded with ''sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r) && apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)''09:03
bimberithoreauputic: would you believe this page has nerim on it - https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats !!!09:03
erickbut I already edit my /etc/samba/smb09:03
thoreauputicbimberi: hmmm - not a Good Thing (tm)09:04
woodwizzleIs breezy running either the new network or power managers?09:04
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woodwizzleor are they both deferred to dapper09:04
erickthoreauputic how can I restart smb services?09:04
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thoreauputicerick: have you installed samba ?09:04
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thoreauputicerick: it isn't installed by default09:04
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erickhow can I know that samba and other packages are installed? let say openoffice09:05
bphangparted won't let me resize ntfs09:05
jimerick: dpkg --help09:05
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thoreauputicerick: apt-cache policy samba09:05
thoreauputicerick: apt-cache policy openoffice.org09:06
Severianerick, or go to the Applications menu, and see what is under Office.09:06
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thoreauputicSeverian: heh - too easy ;-)09:06
erickI issue the command apt-cache policy samba and this is the result samba:09:07
erick  Installed: (none)09:07
erick  Candidate: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu109:07
erick  Version table:09:07
erick     3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 009:07
erick        500 cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908) breezy/main Packages09:07
kerlnel20crimsun: is there any online URL i can download linux-x.x.source.deb?09:07
erickI think samba is not installed how and where can I get samba packages09:07
thoreauputicerick: in other words it isn't installed09:07
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crimsunkerlnel20: linux-source-2.6.12 is the patched package name09:07
erickyeah09:07
thoreauputicerick: sudo apt-get install samba09:07
kerlnel20where can i download it?09:07
bimberikerlnel20: packages.ubuntu.com09:07
kerlnel20sudu sosck09:07
kerlnel20hehee09:07
thoreauputicerick: or use synaptic09:08
kerlnel20thanks09:08
kerlnel20acativate root09:08
Severianerick, and install smbfs if you are going to mount any samba shares.09:08
crimsunkerlnel20: it's in archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/09:08
kerlnel20sudo password root09:08
thoreauputicerick: and please read the /topic about pasting09:08
Severiankerlnel20, isn't that passwd09:09
thoreauputickerlnel20: that command won't work BTW - it's passwd09:09
thoreauputicSeveas: oops...09:09
thoreauputichah09:09
thoreauputicSeverian: oops again09:10
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erickthoreau thanks my samba is now installed09:10
Denskiis the topic for the breezy colony 5 alreeady the final release?09:11
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crimsunwe should clarify that.09:11
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Jedrickhow can i play video file on totem movie player?09:11
MadpilotPPCJedrick, what format?09:11
thoreauputicDenski: release is Oct 1309:11
graigavi09:11
Jedrickwmv avi mpg09:11
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kerlnel20hehehe09:12
MadpilotPPC!tell Jedrick about restricted09:12
erickseverian how can i install smbfs? I try sudu apt-get install smbfs? according to the error packages smbfs has no installation candidate09:12
kerlnel20crimsun: bad url archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/09:12
MadpilotPPCJedrick, follow the URL that ubotu just sent you...09:12
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graig!tell graig about restricted09:12
Severianerick, just like you did samba.  just put smbfs where you had samba09:12
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Denskiso the link posted on the topic is just the preview release?, thanks thoreauputic09:13
robstahi09:13
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thoreauputicDenski: correct09:13
SeverianI usually use synaptic, so I search for smbfs and mark it and install.09:13
robstadoes anyone know of Deer Park builds for ubuntu/ppc ?09:13
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erickseverian I try it but this is the error Reading package lists... Done09:14
erickBuilding dependency tree... Done09:14
erickPackage smbfs is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:14
erickThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:14
erickis only available from another source09:14
erickE: Package smbfs has no installation candidate09:14
kerlnel20to install this package the command is dbpkg install package name?09:14
HrdwrBobaargh, deer park is a cheap/old persons suburb in melbourne :/09:14
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HiddenFlyhow can i change ownership of a file?09:14
crimsunusing chown09:14
jimyou can only do that as root09:14
thoreauputicerick: please - you were told about pasting already: use a pastebin or #flood09:14
HiddenFlyk09:14
crimsunerick: you need to enable the main repository.09:14
Severianerick.  just a moment.  Let me look to see where it came from.09:14
aftertafrobsta:  i think youll have to grab the tarball09:15
robstaaftertaf: binary or source :P09:15
jimerick: people might be having -conversations- when you do that. you're not the only one here09:15
Denskiim a newbie here, is GNU different from DEBIAN? or can i install debian packages on GNU????09:15
graigdo people still have to use totem-xine to get videos to work?09:15
erickk thoreaputic im sorry guys09:15
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crimsunDenski: GNU is different from Debian. See their respective Web sites.09:15
aftertafrobsta:  source.09:16
kerlnel20HiddenFly: chown user.group filename09:16
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jimerick: when you want to paste more than one line, use something like rafb.net/paste09:16
HiddenFlyk thx09:16
crimsunkerlnel20: '.' is deprecated; use ':'09:16
jim(go there now and look at what it is)09:16
kerlnel20yeah sorry09:16
Jedrickwhere can i get mplayer?09:16
Denskioh ok thanks Crimsum09:16
kerlnel20crimsun: how can i install the linux-source?09:16
robstaaftertaf: k, tx,09:16
kerlnel20dbpkg install packagename?09:16
vengefuljedrick..i just use the VLC for gnome..seems to play everything09:17
erickk jim, im soprry this is my first here09:17
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Severianerick, I forgot.  Are you using Hoary or Breezy?09:17
kerlnel20?09:17
aftertafkerlnel20:  look for it in synaptic (linux-source-X.X.X.X.09:17
kerlnel20dbpkg install packagename?09:17
kerlnel20no i want to download it09:17
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aftertafkerlnel20:  apt will download it for you09:17
Jedrickok ill try vlc09:17
kerlnel20is that a right command?09:17
kerlnel20huh09:17
crimsunkerlnel20: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1209:17
kerlnel20crimsun?09:17
thoreauputickerlnel20: why make life difficult for yourself?09:17
kerlnel20no not apt-get09:18
crimsunkerlnel20: are you just trying to get a copy for yourself now?09:18
kerlnel20coz i am going to install it in a pc that is not online09:18
kerlnel20isnt it hard to understand?09:18
Spudz0rhey, has anyone been able to get the dvico fusion hdtv dvb-t digital tv tuner card (usb) working on ubuntu (hoary)09:18
erickI dont know how can I know if it is hoary or breezy? I only know that im using version 5.109:18
aftertafkerlnel20:  you can still apt-get09:18
aftertafkerlnel20:  itll give you a tarball in /usr/src09:18
Severian5.10 is Breezy.  Or really a beta of it.09:18
thoreauputickerlnel20: use the -d switch with apt-get09:19
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kerlnel20?09:19
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crimsunkerlnel20: do you realize that the Ubuntu CD image does not come with a C compiler or the Linux source?09:19
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kerlnel20why not dbpkg?09:19
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kerlnel20yes09:19
kerlnel20crimsun: thats why iwant to download a linux source09:19
zblach5.10 -- the 10/2005 release -- breezy09:19
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ColonelKernelvery nice stuff09:20
kerlnel20so that i can modify it to fit to my damn wants09:20
zblach...i think09:20
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crimsunkerlnel20: so to be able to compile a new kernel, you will need all the packages downloaded with ''sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r) && apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)''09:20
thoreauputickerlnel20: judging by your questions so far I can only say, good luck09:20
vengefulJedrick, did it work?09:20
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erickseverian how will I know what version im using09:20
bigfoot1hi guys, I'm trying to unload a module (ipaq) with the command "rmmod ipaq", but i get the message: "ERROR: Removing 'ipaq': Operation not permitted". What must I do?09:20
Jedricknot yet still downloading 80%09:20
vengefulbigfoot, sudo?09:21
wickedpuppybigfoot1, try sudo09:21
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bigfoot1vengeful, wickedpuppy, i guess I should always try sudo if the non-sudo command doesn't work, yes?09:21
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bigfoot1vengeful, wickedpuppy, btw: it worked! thanks.09:22
vengefulwell when it says operation not permitted its a nice hint ;-)09:22
wickedpuppylol :P09:22
Cashelapt-get install kernel-package wouldnt be a bad idea either...09:22
Severianerick, good question.  I generally just know.  You could look at the repositories in sources.list and make a good guess.09:22
crimsunkerlnel20: in other words, you will need to download the following packages: bzip2, debhelper, xmlto, docbook-utils, gs, kernel-package, module-init-tools, sharutils, transfig, dpatch, kernel-wedge, gcc-3.4, linux-source-2.6.1209:22
bigfoot1wickedpuppy, was your lol 4 me?09:22
wickedpuppynope ... for vengeful09:22
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ColonelKernelwhat is kernel-wedge?09:22
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Casheland ncurses-dev if you want to make menuconfig...09:23
crimsunColonelKernel: see the apt-cache show kernel-wedge description09:23
eythiananyone know how I can remotely fsck a harddisk? I need to remount it as read only, but can't.09:23
ColonelKernelkernel-wedge - udeb package builder for Debian-Installer09:23
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graigi notice gstreamer has alot more codecs now.09:23
ColonelKernelcrimsun, doesnt kernel-package build-essential take care of this stuff?09:23
vengefulwhat partition is it , eythian09:23
eythianvengeful, /09:24
crimsunColonelKernel: and where's the source?09:24
jimColonelKernel: no09:24
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eythianvengeful, it's my parents desktop machine, and it's started playing up09:24
kikinovakHi. I just installed Ubuntu 5.04. Only added the vanilla sources.list entries, and then performed an apt-get upgrade, which upgraded about 200 MB of packages. My main goal is to have a _stable_ working system, I'm not much for bleeding edge. Now I need to install Java, and I see it's easier to install by backports. Q: if I add hoary-backports entry to sources.list, will this try to upgrade every single app on my system?09:24
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vengefulok, OS?09:24
jimlook at the docs to kernel-wedge, or better yet, do that and then try it09:24
eythianvengeful, I'm thinking it's the harddisk09:24
eythianvengeful, Mandrake09:24
jimokos?09:24
vengefulo manrake..09:24
thoreauputic!tell kikinovak about javadeb09:25
Severianerick, I don't see where it tells me which repository.  I have all the repositories turned on in Synaptic.  And smbfs showed up as a valid choice and installed fine.  You must have something turned off.09:25
vengefulnot sure then09:25
eythianvengeful, what would you suggest for anything else?09:25
vengefulusually if theres a prob it forces it to do checks09:25
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thoreauputickikinovak: java isn't in backports any more09:25
vengefulbut i know from experience09:25
kikinovakthoreauputic: where is it? I only need the plugin for Firefox.09:25
vengefulnot shutting mandrake down properly can cause colourful results09:25
thoreauputickikinovak: check your msg09:26
kerlnel20crimsun: say i downloaded  linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.21_all.deb the install it via dbpkg install linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.21_all.deb09:26
eythianvengeful, yeah, I don't know if it's asking on boot, but they don't seem to be getting run.09:26
kerlnel20?09:26
thoreauputickikinovak: ubotu sent you URLs09:26
eythianit's running Reiser, which is usually pretty solid.09:26
locomortoFS or 4?09:26
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eythianFS09:26
vengefulusually mandrake asks you on boot..but if you dont shut down properly a few times...it can screw the whole thing up09:26
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kerlnel20?09:26
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crimsunkerlnel20: dpkg -i09:26
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kikinovakthoreauputic: sorry I don't know who ubotu is, and I saw nothing09:26
kerlnel20ic thanks09:26
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crimsunkerlnel20: please read the command line options09:27
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kerlnel20so is it automatic that it will be in /usr/src?09:27
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thoreauputickikinovak:  /msg ubotu javadeb09:27
eythianvengeful, hmm, I think I drilled shutting down into my parents when I set it up for them.09:27
SeverianI must go.  I have a seminar in the morning, here in Dallas.  Good day all.09:27
HappyHoboWill the latest version of Ubuntu really come with Kumbaya as part of the sound scheme?09:27
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thoreauputickikinovak: ubotu is the channel bot09:27
jimkikinovak: you can build your own java .deb which you then install... people will tell you the better way is to obtain existing debs at some place like where the bot will tell you, but that has legal problems that can get you AND the place where you got it in trouble.09:27
kikinovakthoreauputic: a ok thanks09:27
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Jedrickvengeful,  its not working. it wont open to vlc.. the file is .dat its from a cd09:27
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HappyHoboI think someone was yanking my chain09:28
kerlnel20so is it automatic that it will be in /usr/src?09:28
vengefulbtw whats it partitioned as?09:28
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jimI have NO idea why people would be advocating something like that here.09:28
vengeful.dat09:28
thoreauputicjim: true, but the people supplying the debs are aware of that, and simply getting them isn't illegal - just distributing them09:28
HappyHobowill Ubuntu include Kumbaya as part of the sound scheme09:28
vengefulisnt that a vcd then09:28
vengefulor svcd09:28
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vengefulone of the two09:28
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HappyHobowell?09:28
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jimthoreauputic: you're also facilitating every time you point them there :) so you might have culpability...09:29
Jedrickits a vcd09:29
vengefulhm not sure then...mplayer maybe09:29
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Jedrickok09:29
vengefulthought you said avi, sorry09:29
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thoreauputicjim: I'm waiting for the blackhelicopters to arrive as we speak ;)09:29
jimand that's -stupid- when there is a -legal- way :)09:29
kikinovakjim: I've been using Slackware for years, because for a long time it was the _only_ distro where _everything_ worked out of the box (no flame intended). Now I gave Kubuntu 5.04 a try, and I was so impressed that I decided to migrate all my four boxes to it.09:29
iKernelHOLY CACKAMOLY!!!09:29
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erickseverian how can I used synaptic instead of apt-get09:30
iKernelLOOK AT ALL THE PPL IN THE UBUNTU CHANNEL!!!09:30
jimkikinovak: glad it worked out09:30
iKernelFARK ME DEAD!09:30
iKernellolol09:30
kerlnel20erick: man synaptic09:30
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kerlnel20i guess09:30
kikinovakjim: now you suggest I build my own java .deb? from sources? with checkinstall?09:30
Jedrickur right its avi but im only testng the cd one, so i think im gonna try download some avi file and see if it works  :)09:30
jimkikinovak: no, use java-package09:30
MadpilotPPCerick, System menu --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Mngr09:30
bigfoot1hi guys, how do i kill a program? I need to know its id. how can i know the id? what commands do i use?09:30
jimand yes, it does produce a deb, but not from sources09:31
vengeful.dat is ususally vcd...as i recall i never had a problem with mplayer or totem09:31
jimgo check it out09:31
thoreauputicbigfoot1: easier is to use killall or pkill09:31
kikinovakjim can you be a bit more explicit please? (remember I only need it for firefox)09:31
bigfoot1thoreauputic, will killall kill ALL running programs?09:31
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aftertafsudo killall progtype09:31
thoreauputicbigfoot1: no, just the one you tell it to kill :) e.g. killall emacs09:31
ColonelKernelyeesh - thats ok - ill stick with firefox the way it is09:31
ColonelKernelits fast enough09:32
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jimkikinovak: sure I will :) AFTER you install java-package, read man make-jpkg and read /usr/share/doc/java-package/SUPPORTED09:32
aftertaflol thoreauputic :)09:32
HappyHoboI'll switch to Ubuntu if they are putting Kumbaya as part of the sound scheme09:32
ormandjhow bad (good) is ati in linux? the only thing keeping me dual-booting windows is eve online, and i heard under cedega it plays will, but i've only seen with nvidia09:32
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, thanks that was easier.09:32
thoreauputicbigfoot1:  pkill <progname> is also useful09:33
jimthat way I know you've at least committed to the learning09:33
bigfoot1thoreauputic, what's the diff between pkill and killall?09:33
jimp - all09:33
vengefulormandj..like with anything. its good as long as drivers have been released for it....depends how old the ati is i guess09:33
kikinovakjim: thanks very much... as a slack veteran I'm not a lamer for rtfm:oD09:33
MadpilotPPCormandj, my ATI 9600XT runs just fine in Ubuntu; I've heard other ppl running newer cards w/o trouble too...09:33
ColonelKernelok, so the whole system runs WAY better with a properly optimized kernel09:33
thoreauputicbigfoot1: afaik pkill finds the prcocess number and kills it09:33
thoreauputic*process09:33
ormandjvengeful: pretty old, 9800pro09:33
bigfoot1dan what does killall do differently?09:34
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vengefulshould be fine then09:34
kikinovakjim: with kubuntu i feel like driving a honda goldwing after years of enfield bullet:oD09:34
ormandjk, ill see how it works after i get the ati stuff etc09:34
jimkikinovak: I'm not sure you'd lack for any understanding after that, but in case you do, people here do know how to use it09:34
erickmadpliot thanks I'll check it later09:34
thoreauputicbigfoot1: pgrep will return the process number - like pgrep bash or pgrep xterm etc09:34
kikinovakjim: who are they? is this the developer channel mainly?09:34
jimkikinovak: read the docs... there's a misconception you have that will be dispelled09:35
kikinovakjim: anyway... i especially like the no-bullshit side of it. I installed my main server with ubuntu server, got it up and running in no time. nice.09:36
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jimit's probably not the dev channel... the devs would probably go nuts here if they stay long...09:36
thoreauputicbigfoot1:  man signal09:36
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MadpilotPPCjim, #ubuntu-devel is dev territory, I gather...09:36
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jimoh, ok'09:36
HaNazirhow do i create a new user, but yet hide him from the user and groups?09:36
kikinovakjim: well... it's a hell of a lot of a difference to irc.debian.org#debian... ever tried to grasp some info there?09:37
Jedrickvengeful, ey thnx its working now.. on avi and mpeg file :)09:37
jimHaNazir: not sure what you mean09:37
jimkikinovak: I'm a dd :P09:37
HaNazirjim, when u click on the tool user and groups, u see all the users right?09:37
thoreauputickikinovak: heh - some of us spent some time in #debian - it's a blood sport ;-)09:38
vengeful;-)09:38
kikinovakwell after that I found alt.os.linux.slackware nice and easy compared to that09:38
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jimkikinovak: I'm here trying to determine why a ubuntu hoary install succeeded where a debian sarge install failed (related to dhcp)09:39
erickis chatting with webcam possible in ubuntu09:39
vengefulgnome meeting, erick?09:39
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jimone difference I found right away is ubuntu uses dhcp3-client at install time09:39
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HaNazirhow do i create a hidden user?09:40
kikinovakjim: last time I gave debian a try was when I tried Potato's desktop potential a few years ago. Boy, what a mess...09:40
jimerick: yes, it's possible :)09:40
Jedrickim trying to install the package macromedia flash but i got this error " E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree " why is that?09:40
erickvengeful gnomemeeting?09:40
vengefulyes09:40
jimI kinda liked potato... it could run oracle-8i09:40
erickguys brb09:41
kikinovakjim: but before reinstalling my server I hesitated briefly between Debian Sarge and Ubuntu.09:41
cafuego_Why would you run Oracle when there are better alternatives?09:41
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jimbecasue it has the same libc version oracle-8i was built with09:41
zblachhi. there was a partition auto-detection script. what was it again?09:41
zblachand is it needed for breezy?09:41
Jedrickim trying to install the package macromedia flash but i got this error " E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree " why is that?09:41
Jedrickanyone09:41
cafuego_jim: That's easy enough to manage via a chroot.09:41
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vengefuljedrick i installed mine via firefox and has no issues09:42
vengefuldid it all for me09:42
kikinovakjim: I think (stupidly) that what made me decide for Ubuntu was the rude tone on irc.debian.org:oD09:42
erickcan I use RDP to access my windows server?09:42
jimcafuego_: yeah, and they have this wrapper lib thing that works now09:42
erickand how09:42
Jedrickok whats the link?09:42
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vengefulhave you firefox installed?09:42
cafuego_kikinovak: This network *is* irc.debian.org09:42
x_orI updated to a new hoary kernel, and now upon boot it says "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS."  Does anyone know what this means?09:42
jimbtw... you're on irc.debian.org...09:42
Jedrickyes09:42
vengefuljust visit a site with flash and it should do it for you09:42
kikinovakjim: maybe "Debian" is the kwazooli word for "shitty attitude towards the rest of humanity" LOL09:42
Jedrickim using mozilla firefox09:42
cafuego_kikinovak: Anyway, people there aren't rude, just realistic.09:42
kikinovakcafuego_: but this channel here isn't09:42
kevin06I use a LOT of fonts, so many that GNOME and KDE fail to load if i power down or restart. What kind of program can I use to "select" which fonts I can have active at one time?09:43
vengefulyes just visit a flash site and it should prompt you09:43
cafuego_kikinovak: Maybe not now... depends on the questions people ask.09:43
Jedrickok09:43
jimkikinovak: some people there do have stinky attitudes, asuffield, mwilson, one or two others, me at times09:43
aftertafdepends how they ask them too..... some ppl have little patience for new ppl or bady phrased Qus.09:43
cafuego_don't speak a bad word about mwilson, he's my bitch ;-)09:43
White_Knight!fstab09:43
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, White_Knight09:43
thoreauputicjim: mwilson is a master of the genre :)09:43
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kikinovakcafuego_: just yesterday I had a problem setting up a dhcp server, wondering why dns entries wouldn't get written to the client's resolv.conf. And all I got was 'man dhcp' and rtfm. That stinks.09:44
cafuego_aftertaf: The patience tends to go out the window when you get the same question 10 times a day for 2 years. (Sometimes from the same person)09:44
jimbut for my part I was trying to get people to think who refused to09:44
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cafuego_kikinovak: If the answer was really clear in the manpage, that's fair enough.09:45
jimand I don't see how or why they'd go one inch away from mac or win09:45
cafuego_jim: They don't need to, openOffice runs fine on Windoze.09:45
jimkikinovak: you're ON irc.debian.org NOW :)09:45
aftertafcafuego_:  i entirely agree.......09:45
kikinovakcafuego_: in the end it was a forgotten semicolon at the end of the domain-name-servers line. A classic:oD09:45
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cafuego_aftertaf: And at the end of the day, every irc client has an /ignore ;-)09:45
jimpeople throwning rocks at glass houses before realizing they're actually in them :)09:45
n00bsterhelp - i formated ext3 part, and got left with no system, i have no boot disk?09:46
aftertafcafuego_:  hehe..... :D09:46
MadpilotPPCjim, this is freenode, not debian.org...09:46
kikinovaksee ya folks. work waits. thanks everybody09:46
cafuego_kikinovak: ero, rtfl ;-)09:46
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thoreauputicjim: I think the pedantry about networks is unnecessary - the channel is rlevant though ;)09:46
n00bsterand ubuntu have no CD Burner Installd09:46
Jedrickvengeful,  weeee thnx.. it worked09:46
jimMadpilotPPC: try it yourself... go to irc.debian.org then try coming here :)09:46
vengeful;-)09:46
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kikinovakjim: this is irc.freenode.net09:46
aftertafits all backdoor aliases :)09:46
n00bster:-|09:46
jimyes, it's just an alias09:46
thoreauputickikinovak: same servers09:47
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MadpilotPPCn00bster, Nautilus will burn CDs09:47
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x_orAnyone know how to fix "Error 18:  Selected cylinder exceeds supported by BIOS"?09:47
jimbut I'm just saying you are on the same net :)09:47
n00bsterhelp - i formated ext3 part' and left with no system, i have no boot disk?09:47
n00bsteryah ?09:47
n00bsterhow?09:47
jimlest the rock you throw boomerang at you by mistake :)09:47
aftertaflol jim09:47
n00bsteri'm on ubuntu Live-CD09:47
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thoreauputic;)09:48
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n00bsterfound it !! CD\DVD Creator !09:48
seethruhey, did anyone else do that udev fix like a week or two ago, and after that their cd/dvd-rom's stopped auto-mounting when inserting media?09:48
n00bsterbut how can i mount my hda1 so i can save a Boot CD there ?09:49
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erickjim can use RDP to connect to my windows server?09:49
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aftertafyes you can.09:49
jimrdp? dunno :) maybe :)09:49
jimwhat's a rdp?09:49
n00bsterMadpilotPPC: how can i mount my hda1 so i can save a Boot CD there ?09:49
aftertaferick:  if you've enabled TSE09:49
erickremote desktop09:49
erickTSE? what is TSE09:50
jimyou can do the same thing in reverse if you install cygwin xfree86 on the win box09:50
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jimthe silly enabler?09:50
ghitacan someone please tell me how to start gaim minimized?09:50
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aftertaferick:  terminal services... but this chan is not an MCSE support channel and tere are lots of stuff on technet about that.09:50
aftertaferick:  after that, the rdesktop on linux works just like the win client does....09:51
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brownie17can someone help me? i have an iso of a cd i want to burn to the cd09:51
erickah k I already install TSE on my windows server, actually I already use Terminal Server client09:51
jimbrownie17: you want to burn it directly to the cd as am image09:51
brownie17jim, yes, how?09:52
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brownie17jim, oh no09:52
brownie17jim, i want to create a cd form the image09:52
jimdunno under ubuntu09:52
n00bsterok, GOT it :} ty.09:52
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erickaftertaf, I already enable TSE on my windows server09:52
aftertaferick:  in that case, just run the rdp client on linux in the same way as you do in win09:52
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seethrudid anyone else do that udev fix like a week or two ago, and after that their cd/dvd-rom's stopped auto-mounting when inserting media?09:52
brownie17can someone tell me what software i can use to burn a cd image onto a cd. creating a new cd from the image?09:52
jimbrownie17: yes, that's true too09:52
Jedrickhow to install java?09:52
thoreauputicbrownie17: in the nautilus file manager, right click the ISO and choose the CD burn option09:52
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brownie17thoreauputic, i am not using kubuntu. is it possible to do it easily in gnome? because i have KDE installed. i can change if i have to09:53
vengefuljedrick i didnt get around to that yet :-)09:53
seethrubrownie17: that is in gnome09:53
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aftertafbrownie17:  nautilus is gnome.....09:53
bob2brownie17: the gnome file manager does that...09:53
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jimbrownie17: you could use cdrecord, but I dunno the command line to do it09:53
thoreauputicbrownie17: well, what I suggested works in gnome - not sure in KDE how you do it09:53
erickaftertaf where can I see the rdp client? is this the same as TSclient? that can find in Applicatiosn Internet the TSC09:53
brownie17aftertaf, hahah my mistake. i am getting so confused theese days with lunx09:53
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tothemaxxxi have been looking for a guide, and obviously i haven't found one, for installing (k)ubuntu over NFS... anyone can point me to the right direction?09:54
Jedrickit says that " Make a symbolic link to libjavaplugin_oji.so in your Mozilla Plugins directory. Unless you are using an old version of Mozilla, or one you compiled yourself with gcc 2.9x, use the copy located in the plugin/i386/ns7 directory of JRE 5.0, or plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32 if you are using JRE 1.4.2. "09:54
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Jedrickbut i dont know how to.. im just a noob09:54
seethruso, I'm the only one who did that udev fix?09:54
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brownie17thoreauputic, um.. techincally it is not a ".ISO" format. it is ccd09:54
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aftertaferick:  search in synaptic for rdp. failing that sudo apt-get install  rdesktop09:54
crimsunseethru: which udev fix?09:54
brownie17thoreauputic, i have another copy that is a ".img" format09:54
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jimccd?09:54
erickaftertaf thanks09:54
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aftertafcrimsun:  breezy was broken 2 weeks ago, udev didnt create mouse09:55
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jimnow I'm not sure what you should do09:55
aftertaferick:  np09:55
seethrucrimsun: like a week or two ago when udev13 broke udev, and they quickly had to rebuild and release09:55
jimbut if it's an image which (for example) is a file system of some kind, then you want to write the image to the cd09:55
crimsunyou mean the whole failed "ignore certain kernel events"?09:55
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thoreauputicbrownie17: *shrug* I don't know - I would try renanming it to *.iso and burning it - see what happens09:55
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thoreauputicbrownie17: no idea about ccd etc09:56
brownie17thoreauputic, that doesn't sound very techical. i highly doubt it would work09:56
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tothemaxxxhi09:56
brownie17thoreauputic, maybe k3b or some other software would do it?09:56
aftertaflol brownie17 true09:56
thoreauputicbrownie17: no harm in trying it - at worst you make a coaster09:56
brownie17thoreauputic, hahah09:56
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seethrucrimsun: not sure if thats what it was, all I know is X wasn't starting and the fix on the forums let me back in, and unfortunately since then my cd/dvd drives don't mount media automatically. I have to manually mount a cd whenever I insert one.09:56
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aftertafdamn bots!09:57
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jim!damn bots09:57
ubotuWish i knew, jim09:57
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brownie17!bots09:57
ubotubrownie17: I haven't a clue09:57
tothemaxxxi have been looking for a guide, and obviously i haven't found one, for installing (k)ubuntu over NFS... anyone can point me to the right direction?09:57
crimsunseethru: paste the contents (simple ls) of /etc/udev/rules.d/ onto paste09:57
brownie17!bot09:57
ubotuI'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to brownie17? I think not. Bot, jot, chicken... rhyming sucks.09:57
jim!pots09:57
ubotujim: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!09:57
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brownie17anyone know how to burn a .img or a .ccd cd image to a cd!?09:58
Toma-anyone know where i might find an ubuntu/kubuntu symbol png?09:58
aftertafbrownie17:  uncle google get you any clues?09:58
aftertafToma-:  try ubuntu site09:58
aftertafthere is artwork you can get09:59
jim!uncle google09:59
ubotujim: No idea09:59
Toma-ahh of course09:59
Toma-thanks09:59
jimyou haven't traind him yet!09:59
aftertafhehe :)09:59
seethrucrimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/281009:59
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ubuntuhi guys has anyone installed MAC OSX?09:59
ubuntutiger using ubuntu live cd?09:59
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crimsunseethru: looks fine to me. Do you see any kernel notifications in dmesg when you insert a CD?10:00
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ackhi guys has anyone tried to install MAC OSX?10:01
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thoreauputicack: of course - but how is this on topic?10:02
malvif I have more than one sound card, how do I pick the one to output from?10:02
seethrucrimsun: infact I do -> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/281110:02
JedrickHow to install java?10:02
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thoreauputic!java10:03
ubotuhmm... java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java10:03
ackthoreauputic would you help me? I'm on ubuntu live cd right now10:03
Jedrickits not working on apt-get for me10:03
bob2ack: sounds more like a #macosx question10:03
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ackthoreauputic I wanna see how cool it is10:03
ackokay thnks10:03
libcafe20hi10:04
White_Knighthi. I have some partitions i need to make fully accessible. how can I do so?10:04
crimsunseethru: have you modified any settings in System> Preferences> Removable Drives and Media?10:04
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bob2White_Knight: /msg ubotu ntfs10:04
brownie17when i plug in a kodak camera to get photos off it, the thing says "would you like to import photos to album?" i say yes, and it then opens another window which jams. can anyone tell me another way to get photos off a cd?10:04
aftertafWhite_Knight:  what FS?10:04
jimWhite_Knight: they're only half accessable now?10:04
White_Knightthey currently have 755 status10:05
aftertafbrownie17:  yep... go into nautilus and navigate in /media/10:05
aftertafWhite_Knight:  what is the filesystem?10:05
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White_KnightI think the fs is Fat32?10:05
White_Knightany way to check quickly?10:05
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seethrucrimsun: nope, only the blank media section to run gnomebaker.10:06
brownie17aftertaf, no good. doesn't appear there. there is my hda2, "BROWNIE" (my lfash disk) "cdrom" "cdrom0" and "cdrom1"10:06
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aftertafWhite_Knight:  if mounted, type just 'mount'10:06
brownie17aftertaf, btw, i only have two cd rom drives10:06
hejuxso does anybody use FVWM ?10:06
jimhejux: used to10:07
hejuxwhy?10:07
jimnice, functional10:07
crimsunseethru: can you reproduce this with a new user?10:07
jimfast, small10:07
hejuxwhy not now ?10:07
aftertafbrownie17:  try in kde.... works for me via usb mass storage device drivers10:07
White_Knightthe drives are mounted10:07
jimI'm still trying gnome10:07
Bateau_how do i install .bin files?10:07
brownie17aftertaf, ok10:07
aftertafWhite_Knight:  type 'mount' then.10:07
jimBateau_: what's in the .bin files?10:07
Jedrickwhen installing java package i got this error "E: Couldn't find package java-package "10:07
aftertafand read the output concerning your partition10:07
White_Knightfs: vfat10:07
aftertaf;)10:07
White_Knight(rw)10:07
Bateau_jim: its a program. ejabberd10:07
White_Knightand i need it to be vfat (rxw)10:08
hejuxso far as i see FVWM is a little ugly :)10:08
crimsunJedrick: it's in multiverse.10:08
aftertafno you dont... not really10:08
aftertafWhite_Knight:  read ubotu link10:08
aftertaf!mount10:08
ubotusomebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives10:08
Jedrickok then how to get it?10:08
jimBateau_: you should have gotten instructions with it. have you read them/10:08
seethrucrimsun: hmmm interesting question, I'll go find out :)10:08
crimsun!tell Jedrick about repos10:08
aftertafWhite_Knight:  you need to add stuff about umask......10:08
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White_Knightubotu, tell me about umask10:10
hejuxkde gnome FVWM ,any other nice choose?10:10
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hejuxWhite_Knight: umask is about permission10:10
aftertafWhite_Knight:  google "mount fat umask"....10:10
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hejuxumask=0 means can read and write NTFS10:11
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aftertafhejux:  FAT you mean ;)10:11
seethrucrimsun: nope, doesn't automount under a new user account either...10:11
White_Knightaftertaf, i'll make sure to have safe search _on_10:11
brownie17aftertaf, it's in there in KDE, but not in Gnome10:11
graighello, why does breezy not require the password for opening things like synaptic?10:11
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White_Knighthang on. its mounted, but I'm getting permission errors with azureus10:12
aftertafgraig:  it does, but if asked once itll not ask again for a short time...10:12
hejuxhey could you show me some nice sceen shots ?10:12
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brownie17aftertaf, do i need drivers just top get the photos off a camera?10:13
aftertafbrosio:  nope.... itll be usb mass storage i imagine10:13
aftertafgrrr  brownie17 ^^^^^^^10:13
graighey, wow.  i just checked out my wacom tablet, and the pressure sensitivity works way better.10:13
crimsunseethru: do usb thumb drives?10:13
graigit must be the new gimp version.10:13
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seethrucrimsun: nope, don't have any of those. I do have an ipod, and it does get auto-mounted...10:14
aftertafitll be nautilus not doing the automount.... KIO & konqueror manage it on kde... maybe a gnome workaround but i dont know of one.10:14
crimsunseethru: ok, so mounting _does_ work but just not CDs. It's a shame I don't have a CD drive to test.10:15
bob2natuilus doesn't ever mount anything10:15
bob2g-v-m is in charge of that10:15
graigand the images that come of my digital camera turn out more color correct ;)10:15
aftertafoki bob2 thx for that info... :)10:15
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Jedrickhow to install update using terminal10:16
bob2"install update"?10:17
aftertafJedrick:  apt is your best friend :)10:17
bob2you mean "install updates"?10:17
Jedricklike in the ubuntu update manager10:17
Jedricki want to do it on terminal10:17
aftertafsudo apt-get install10:17
Jedrickis it possible?10:17
tothemaxxxi have been looking for a guide, and obviously i haven't found one, for installing (k)ubuntu over NFS... anyone can point me to the right direction?10:17
aftertaf+ package name10:17
Jedricktheyre too many10:18
aftertafJedrick:  have you changed your sources list?10:18
Jedrickhow to install them all at once10:18
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Jedrickno10:18
bob2Jedrick: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:18
Jedrickk10:18
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aftertaf!apt10:18
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto10:18
bob2Jedrick: note that it's a lot easier to help you if you tell us what you're really trying to do10:18
bob2tothemaxxx: install how? point apt at packages over nfs?10:18
aftertafbob2:  he just got his net connection working and wants to update10:18
Jedrickjust trying to update some software10:18
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aftertafbob2:  is there a ubotu link to help new ppl to do that?10:19
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brownie17aftertaf, it is staying on initialising camera10:19
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aftertaf!tell Jedrick about repositories10:19
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Shin_GoukiJedrick , re what ur prob?10:19
Tomsosssssssssaaaaaaa10:19
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bob2Toms: please don't10:19
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Tomsuuuuuuusssssssssaaaaaaaa10:20
demantikif i 'rm -r music' (directory) which is linked to my music folder on my windows drive, it wont try and touch the win drive right?10:20
cevizogluwhat is the name of the pre-installed 3d game with the marbles?10:20
demantikor do i have to remove the link first10:20
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Shin_GoukiJedrick , re what is ur problem?10:20
bob2demantik: symlink? don't use -r.10:20
JedrickShin_Gouki,  i want to update my software using terminal.. not on the ubuntu update manager10:20
aftertafJedrick:  ok. if youve changed your repositories, then type this command :  sudo apt-get update10:20
Shin_GoukiJedrick , ok no prob i did same10:20
demantikbob2 - yeah symlink10:20
demantikok10:21
Shin_GoukiJedrick , ok what sowftware exactly u want to update?10:21
aftertafthen the command bob2 gave you (dist-upgrade)10:21
demantikbob2 - ok thx, worked....10:21
Jedrickaftertaf,  ok done10:21
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aftertafShin_Gouki:  the whole system, i think ;)10:21
Toma-where can u get the ubuntu font?10:21
JedrickShin_Gouki,  all *10:21
Jedrick:)10:21
Shin_GoukiJedrick , hm use aptitude10:21
aftertafJedrick:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:22
Shin_GoukiJedrick , hm use aptitude and then step by step : apt-get install update ....etc..10:22
Jedrickok10:22
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Shin_Goukiif i deleteed a text file10:23
Shin_Goukifrom shell is there a trahs?10:23
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erickGUYS i HOW CAN i USE GNOME BITTORENT10:24
bob2Shin_Gouki: nope10:24
bob2erick: stop it10:24
Shin_Goukieick10:24
Shin_Goukiuse java bittorent client10:24
Shin_Goukiazeruas10:24
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Shin_Goukior such its nie10:24
Shin_Goukinice10:24
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erickBOB2 WHY? WHAT WILL i STOP10:25
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Shin_Goukibob2, ther is still a swap file of the txt file present... any chance?10:25
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bob2erick: stop being so bloody annoyinh10:25
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bob2Shin_Gouki: copy the swap file, now10:25
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Shin_Goukierick, tell me what u wanti may help u10:25
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Shin_Goukibob2, where to?10:25
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bob2Shin_Gouki: er, anywhere?10:26
SCR34MI'm using compaq armada m700, PIII 750, partition hda1-> dos, hda5-> windows, hda6-> RH Linux, hda7-> swap, I tried to install ubuntu, however it always stucks in the partition step, anyone can help?10:26
bob2copy it before it gets lost10:26
Shin_Goukiok bob 2 , done what now10:26
bob2what?10:26
bob2think this through10:26
erickSHIN GOUKI THANKS AND bob@ iM SORRY10:26
bob2perhaps look in the file?10:26
bob2erick: stop using caps, or leave10:27
Shin_Goukibob2, i copyed the swp file, how can i regain my txtfile from the swp?10:27
bob218:26:57           bob2 | perhaps look in the file?10:27
pepsii setup an nfs share using the "shared folders" app10:27
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pepsihow do i connect to it?10:27
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erickwhats wrong with caps? and how will i adjust it10:27
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bob2erick: it's extraordinarily annoying, and considered rude10:28
Shin_Goukierick, i want GNOME download programm?10:28
Shin_Goukierick, u have java installed?10:28
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Shin_Goukibob2, plz explain slowly to me what to do with the swapfile now to regain txt document , plz10:28
erickyeah i know bob2 but since my first to use ubunto,i dont know where can i adjust my font size10:29
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erickshin i dont know i check it first10:29
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bob2erick: wtf10:29
Shin_Goukierick, try xchat its pretty cool10:29
Shin_Goukibob2 dont focus on that10:29
bob2erick: this has nothing to do with your fontsize, it's the fact you were using your caps lock key10:29
bob2Shin_Gouki: "plz" is not a word10:29
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bob2Shin_Gouki: did you actually look in the swp file yet?10:29
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Shin_Goukibob2 yes...not really readble text...strange characters... :(10:30
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erickk im sorry bob2?10:30
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Shin_Goukierick, what is ur problem ATM?10:30
graigits not asking me for the sudo password at all in breezy. whats wrong?10:30
erickxchat use for chatting shin, I want gnome download program10:31
bob2graig: show us your /etc/sudoers in #flood10:31
crimsungraig: did you modify sudoers?10:31
Shin_Goukierick, u have installed java?10:31
graigi diddn't modify it.10:31
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kikinovakHi. Back when I used Slackware, I liked the Luxi Sans and Luxi serif fonts that came with a default desktop install. Q: are these ttf fonts to be found somewhere in a ttf fonts package?10:31
fekmoin10:31
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graigit wont let me open it10:31
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erickhow can i know that java is installed on my ubunto10:32
graigwith gedit.10:32
Shin_Goukierick do u know how to use aptitude?10:32
Shin_Goukierick it should be inside of that10:32
pepsihow do i mount an nfs share?10:32
bob2kikinovak: packages.ubuntu.com lets you search package contents10:32
bob2pepsi: by adding it to /etc/fstab10:32
erickshin know, what is aptitude? is just same as apt-get10:32
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graigi tried to use gedit to open the sudoers file, and it says access was denied.10:33
kikinovakbob2: thanks... I'm quite new to ubuntu, but I really like it, btw. Cheers!10:33
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cosimo321hello all10:33
dReadMoRehi my rythm box is saying "Could Not Open Resource for Writing" anyone have any ideia of what is it!?10:33
Shin_Goukierick go to shell & type it ull see its kinda software manager on shell10:33
cosimo321I have installed istanbul onto breezy but can't play the.ogg file. what do I need for this?10:33
Shin_Goukierick its cool10:33
pepsibob2, ok :)10:33
bob2graig: uh, duh, sudo gedit /etc/sudoers10:33
brownie17how do i connect to this channel through konversation?10:33
bob2pepsi: doubt there's a gnomey way to do it10:34
erickk shin i already in aptitude program try to search for java10:34
Shin_Goukibob2, plz my swap file is stilll...a swap file and not a text tifle..10:34
eythianyou should only edit sudoers with visudo I think.10:34
Shin_Goukieythain, good morning!10:34
bob2Shin_Gouki: that's great10:34
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pepsibob2, yeah, thats what i was looking for, since i was able to setup a share with a gui app10:34
bob2Shin_Gouki: it sounds like your file is gone, sadly10:34
pepsifstab will do10:34
fraserhey brownie1710:34
ormandjnight all10:34
cosimo321How do I play .ogg files on breezy?10:34
brownie17hey fraser, how's the wife10:34
Shin_Goukibob2, failure is not an option!10:35
Shin_Goukibob2, failure is not an option! ;)10:35
fraserbrownie17: can't complain10:35
bob2Shin_Gouki: good luck then10:35
daejavuhi .. i downloaded a file "true.combat.elite_0.48-english.run.tar" but that tar isnt working on it .. how do i get it working ?10:35
bob2cosimo321: with any of the music players included10:35
graigdoes breezy not ask for sudo password when you try to install software now?10:35
brownie17fraser, how is ubuntu working for you?10:35
bob2cosimo321: xmms, cplay, rhtymbox10:35
cosimo321this is an .ogg video file recorde with istanbul10:35
bob2cosimo321: if your obscure one no one has heard of doesn't work, find a user list for it, or use a more common one10:35
brownie17fraser, i am having alot of trouble with burning a cd image10:36
Shin_Goukibob2 , ...thx ur beeing...cheerful10:36
pepsigraig, you have a few minutes to do other stuff after typing the password once10:36
bob2daejavu: it has no instructions? none at all?10:36
cosimo321What?10:36
daejavubob2, nops ..10:36
cosimo321OK10:36
bob2Shin_Gouki: I'm not sure what you expect me to do, I don't have a backup of your file10:36
fraserbrownie17: maybe you should ask someone else in here, they mgiht know.10:36
daejavujust a plain file :D10:36
bob2daejavu: what does "file" say it is?10:36
brownie17brownie17, hmmm10:36
fraserbrownie17: got to go anyway, cya10:36
Shin_Goukibob2, may be i expect there to be a command to create txtfile from swapfile?10:36
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daejavubob2, may this can give u a better idea "http://www.act-of-war.de/aow/download.php?view.3373"10:36
erickshin under what packages or category java is located? admin games or wjhat10:36
cosimo321Ok this is a VIDEO file .ogg not audio10:36
bob2Shin_Gouki: doubt it10:37
bob2daejavu: no, sorry, not going to go read it for you10:37
Shin_Goukihow i may verfify if java is installed on my ubuntu system?10:37
bob2daejavu: what does "file blah" say? (obviously substituting blah for the filename)10:37
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erickshin I guess java is not installed in my ubuntu, I cant find it10:37
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bob2Shin_Gouki: does the "java" command do something?10:37
erickhow can i install java10:37
bob2cosimo321: that's AWESOME10:37
bob2cosimo321: install mplayer10:38
Shin_Goukierick ask for the apt-get command for java isntall10:38
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cosimo321mplayer doesn't seem to work on my install10:38
hejuxlinux just for server10:38
bob2cosimo321: that's not a useful description of the problem10:38
bob2hejux: no10:38
cosimo321I have vlc but that won't play it either yet I know it plays .ogg files10:38
daejavuwhen i do a tar xzvf with it .. it says "not in gzip format"10:38
erickk shin thanks10:38
daejavubob2, when i do a tar xzvf with it .. it says "not in gzip format"10:38
bob2cosimo321: so, stop talking and explain in what way mplayer doesn't work10:38
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bob2daejavu: indeed, but that's not what I asked for10:39
bob218:37:44           bob2 | daejavu: what does "file blah" say? (obviously substituting blah for the filename)10:39
cosimo321forget mplayer I am concentrating on playin a video .ogg file preferably with vlc10:39
Shin_Goukibob2, it seems all in the swp file but its VERY strange coded...any idea how to remove that swp coding?10:39
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bob2cosimo321: that's awesome10:39
bob2cosimo321: now, install mplayer, and see if it works10:40
cosimo321what?10:40
cosimo321I have tried this before it does not work10:40
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cosimo321totem won't and vlc won't oplay the file either10:40
bob2cosimo321: "does not work" is not a usefu ldescription of the problem10:40
pipounwhat are the errors?10:40
daejavubob2, umm what do u need to know then ?   im quite a newbie so plz bare it :D10:40
bob2cosimo321: now, install mplayer, then show us the errors (if any)10:40
bob2daejavu: dude, I pasted my question again10:41
cosimo321what part of doesn't work don't you understand?10:41
bob2daejavu: "file whatever"10:41
cosimo321it will not paly the file10:41
cosimo321play10:41
bob2cosimo321: for god's sake10:41
bob2cosimo321: stop being stupid and show us the error10:41
cosimo321what????10:41
john_hi... i have a simple question. I want to save /etc/sysctl.conf but it wont let me 'cos it's write protected. How to I save it?10:41
bob2cosimo321: your guesses about the problem are not useful, I want to see the output from mplayer10:41
bob2john_: run your editor with sudo; e.g. "sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf"10:41
cosimo321I don't adn WON"T use mplayer10:41
Shin_Goukierick how is it going?10:41
cosimo321Iuse vlc10:41
john_thanks10:42
daejavubob2, i did "file  true......"   and got in return "POSIX  tar archive"10:42
bob2cosimo321: that's great10:42
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bob2cosimo321: now, install mplayer, and show us the error (if any) it gives when trying to play your file10:42
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cosimo321there are no errors the app opens then crashed immediately no errors reported10:43
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erickshin what will be my search key to find if java is installed? can I used java world10:43
bob2cosimo321: that's clearly a lie10:43
cosimo321what???10:43
bob2cosimo321: now stop stalling, and install mplayer, then show us the output10:43
bob2"no errors reported"?10:43
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bob2it doesn't say that it segfaulted?10:43
cosimo321NO ERRORS REPORTED10:44
cosimo321it just crashed10:44
bob2stop it10:44
bob2you're being useless10:44
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bob2when mplayer segfaults, it tells you *where* it segfaulted10:44
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bob2show us that information, if nothing else10:44
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cosimo321is everyone on medication or something?10:44
pipounand after throw yourself in the dustbin10:44
cosimo321Step by step.10:45
bob2cosimo321: holy god10:45
pipounno it's serious10:45
cosimo321I recorded a video screen acpture using istanbul10:45
cevizoglucosimo321, no, just ubotu10:45
bob2cosimo321: so, you're being really annoying, and have no idea what the problem is10:45
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cosimo321the files was saved10:45
bob2cosimo321: if you show us the mplayer output, we can help you10:45
bob2if you refuse to, we cannot10:45
cosimo321I then opened it with vlc, totem etc and each app crashed10:45
cosimo321no errors nothing10:45
pipounwhere do you get the errors?10:46
cosimo321Ok once again I DO not use mplayer and I will not use mplayer10:46
bob2cosimo321: I don't care10:46
bob2cosimo321: none of the others give useful debugging output10:46
bob2if you're going to refuse to help yourself, there's little anyone can do for you10:46
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cosimo321oh boy what medications are you people on?10:46
cosimo321have a godd one!10:46
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Jedrickhow to disable screensaver?10:47
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bob2seethru: please turn that off10:47
pipounwhat a stubborn!10:47
Tomcat_Jedrick: Preferences => Screensaver10:47
bob2he/shw could have had an answer by now10:47
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bob2yay for being a moron10:47
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cevizogluJedrick, go to screensavers and select "Disable"10:47
Jedrickok thnx10:47
Shin_Goukibob2, it seems as i some how get managed in recover mode10:47
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Shin_Goukibob2, but that mode said , 1 Block could not be read.. how do i avoid this block?10:48
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bob2Shin_Gouki: I said above I have no idea10:48
Shin_Goukishell vi textfile Problem, i have a swp file how to revocer textfile from it?10:48
bob2if I were you, I'd be using strings on the hard disk10:49
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Shin_Goukierick is java done?10:50
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cevizogluShin_Gouki, the swp file **is** your text file10:50
jaydeguiahow will i install apache, mysql and php on ubuntu?10:50
cevizogluShin_Gouki, if not, you've lost your data10:51
erickshin not yet10:51
Shin_Goukicevizoglu, i know! but when trying to recover it says: could not read 1 Block, so i need a switch to turn oit off..how?10:51
cevizogluShin_Gouki, sounds like a hard disk error10:51
erickwhen i used the commd sudi apt-get install java10:51
loststrykroll on the 13th :)10:51
Shin_Goukicevizoglu, no i simply deleted the file when i shouldn't ;)10:51
erickcouldn't find packages10:51
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ws003way10:52
Shin_Goukierick , ask again poilite and slowly for java install help10:52
Shin_Goukierick , to the channel i cant help u with that :/10:52
bob2jaydeguia: me more specific10:52
claintopen office started to just segfault on my hoary. anyone know of a fix/problem?10:52
bob2jaydeguia: do you mean a mysql server or the php mysql support package?10:52
cevizogluShin_Gouki, when you try to make a copy of the file, what happens?10:53
Belutzubotu: tell erick about javadebs10:53
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erickin your ubunto do you use the bittorent to download files10:53
Belutzubotu: tell erick about javadeb10:53
Shin_Goukicevizoglu, that worked no prob there10:53
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jaydeguiabob2 - both10:54
cevizogluShin_Gouki, can you view the copy in vi?10:54
bob2jaydeguia: sudo aptitude install mysql-server php4-mysql libapache2-mod-php4 apache210:54
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jaydeguiathanks bob2. ill try10:55
kikinovakHi. Q: why do TTF fonts look somewhat "smudgier" than on Ubuntu? Like they are smeared or so. I'm puzzled.10:55
kikinovak(than on Slack. sorry)(10:55
bob2because you enabled antialiasing?10:55
kikinovakbob2: in kde yes...10:55
kikinovakbob2: I checked that10:56
Shin_Goukicevizoglu, yes10:56
bob2?10:56
kikinovakbob2: with slack I used luxi sans as main font for kde... and it looks really ugly here10:56
kikinovakbob2: it's not an AA problem though10:56
bob2great10:56
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Skid /w 1310:58
Skidoops10:58
j-linuxhas anyone used XFCE on Ubuntu?  It's great, but I can't get the sound to work.10:58
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bob2sure you can10:58
Shin_Goukicevizoglu, what u recommend to do?10:58
claintis there a wiki that shows  me how to switch my sources.list to the breezy preview stuff?10:58
cevizogluShin_Gouki, what do you mean?  you said you can view the file...10:59
bob2claint: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes10:59
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Shin_Goukicevizoglu, yes but  its "strange coded"10:59
cevizogluShin_Gouki, do mean like UTF-16?10:59
Syrusshmm10:59
Syrussubuntu is loads better than gentoo :p10:59
Syrussin some way10:59
Syrusss10:59
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claintbob2: thanks10:59
Shin_Goukicevizoglu, dont know il make u a pastebin sec11:00
Syrussthe main way being it's not so out of date11:00
icecreami need to find the output for dccm. how can i find out where dccm is located? what command do i use for a search?11:00
bob2"dccm"?11:00
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jaydeguiabob2, it says that it has no package for mysql-server php4-mysql and libapache2-mod-php411:01
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bob2jaydeguia: it really says exactly that?11:01
icecreambob2: when i do dccm, there is no output. i guess this means there is something wrong?11:01
bob2what on earth is "dccm"?11:01
icecreambob2: it's something necessary for syncing a pocket pc pda to ubuntu.11:02
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bob2ok...11:02
jaydeguiano candidate for mysql-server11:02
Shin_Goukicevizoglu, vi seems ok but when i try xedit i got just this:b0VIM11:02
bob2why would you assume that "no output" is a problem?11:02
bob2jaydeguia: /msg ubotu repositories11:02
Shin_Goukicevizoglu, just those blocks? alothough the txt file should be big11:02
jaydeguiacouldn't find any package for php4-mysql and libapache2-mod-php411:02
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Shin_Goukierick , how is it going with java?11:03
cevizogluShin_Gouki, I'm not sure what's going on at this point... although you might try vim since you know vi.. gotta sleep now11:03
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icecreambob2, because on http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/help.php, it asks me to provide the output for dccm11:04
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Shin_Goukicevizoglu, infact its seems an VIm backupfile yet incompletet :/11:05
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Shin_Goukicevizoglu, anyway good night!11:05
BockBilbohello11:05
BockBilbogood morning11:05
pl_icehi11:05
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BockBilboany of you guys have problems with the fonts at some flash sites??11:06
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erickshin sorry, I think my browser has a problem11:07
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Shin_Goukierick , ur browser? should not be related to java ..?11:07
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Shin_Goukierick , u still want the link for the torrent client?11:07
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BockBilboi can't see the fonts on some flash sites ... ive msfonts, gfonts, and gfonts-x11 installed... but i cant still see the fonts ... for example, at http://www.coldplay.com/site.php11:08
erickshin yes I need that link11:08
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Shin_Goukierick ,here download : http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ and here some infos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azureus11:09
Shin_Goukierick ,i hope u get java to run!11:10
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erickshin im here in http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt and there are 6 choces for java11:11
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Shin_Goukibob 2, cevizoglu, it was my own mistake the file was opened all the time, then i deleted the file so only the swp existed, problem cleared ;)11:11
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Shin_Goukierick ,one sec il take a look11:12
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daejavudo we have a True Combat (mod)  player here ?11:12
erickshin I check the 2nd site that ubotu gave to me this time 3 choices only, I download the three and installed after11:13
erickthe site is http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs11:13
Shin_Goukierick ,i would choosee the 65 MB package , just to be sure11:13
erickk11:13
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mhzhi11:15
robin_The version I can download now for breezy can be simple upgraded to the release version when it is released?11:15
wickedpuppyrobin_,  yes11:16
wickedpuppyin fact you will be updated daily11:16
graighello. i got this error message when logging into gnome, right after i put in my password.   i got an error when i logged into gnome that says, your $home/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved.  File should be owned by user and have 664 permissions.11:16
mhzcould someone take a look at my dhcpd.conf and tell me whats wrong, please. I have ckecked it 2x times, and still fails :(11:16
robin_wickedpuppy: ok, thxd11:16
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Shin_Goukihi somwone know a nice programm to watch svg files from web for ubuntu?11:17
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aftertafmhz:  what is the pb you're having?11:18
robin_wickedpuppy: and where Can I download the latests version ? because the one on the offical site is still  from 09-0911:19
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mhzaftertaf: dhcp won't start11:19
robin_wickedpuppy: this one http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-5/  i guess.11:19
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mhzaftertaf: http://www.tecnocimiento.cl/MauricioHernandez/configs/DhcpdConf11:20
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Shin_Goukihi! i need a programm to watch svg files from web for ubuntu?11:20
loststryktried videolan ?11:20
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Hendricwaaaaa11:21
Shin_Goukiloststryk, talkin to me? uh? how big is that programm?11:21
mhzaftertaf: syslog claims that is not configured to listen. /default/dhcp says it is configured.11:21
knubbeanyone who knows why i have problems to enable my eth1 (wireless) card? i see this in my syslog when i try to enable the card: "ipw2200: failed to send TX_POWER command"11:21
loststrykwww.videolan.org then look at the vlc section (the program your4 after)_11:21
aftertafmhz:  subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {      arent you missing a closing } somewhere around there?11:21
Hendricanyone here who can help me?? im trying to install ubuntu on an old DELL optiplex. i got an error during "disk partitioner"...11:22
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aftertafmhz:  at a guess.... never setup dhcp in nux11:22
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Hendricany help for me?11:24
wickedpuppyHendric, if you never say the error .. how we help ?11:24
mhzaftertaf: i placed the } a couple of lines before, but still nothing :(11:24
erickshin am I right dpkg+packages name11:25
Shin_Gouki:( how do i create a txtfile which has the same format under Linux & MS Win?11:25
Hendricduring disk partitioner i got this... ?????????? and below it is <goback>   <continue>11:25
wickedpuppyShin_Gouki, .txt is nice11:25
Hendricand im stuck on that part11:25
wickedpuppyyou can save .doc files in openoffice too11:25
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Shin_Goukiwickedpuppy, idid but wind/linux have diffrent line break...11:26
knubbeWhen i try to turn the txpower on ("sudo iwconfig eth1 txpower on") i get: Error for wireless request "Set Tx Power" (8B26) : SET failed on device eth1 ; Input/output error.11:26
wickedpuppyHendric, that is the error ?????11:26
wickedpuppyeh ah11:26
erickshin are talking about openoffice? just save the file as windows 2000/XP11:26
Hendricwickedpuppy... it never said anything...11:26
Shin_Goukierick , i am talking about vi txt files11:26
Hendricseems like it doesn't support the old drive.. but i doubt it11:26
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erickah k sorry,11:27
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delhi all11:27
mahangufor some reason, gxine wont show the dvd menus11:27
Shin_Goukierick , np :)11:27
erickI think using vi it can recognise by notepad in windows11:27
delsomeone from Bulgaria ?11:27
mahanguand looks a LOT like mplayer11:27
Shin_Goukierick , i tried but as ai said above diffrent brak linies, but its not that important11:28
mahanguhow do i get it to show the dvd controls?11:28
Shin_Goukihm is mplayer about as good as mpc under windows..?11:28
pawelI'm running breezy and can't get rid of that bloody notice from update-notifier that I need to restart the computer because of the new kernel. I have restarted my computer, few times, but the bulb and notice keeps appearing.11:28
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pawelI even reinstalled update-notifier, but the same thing happens.11:29
pawelany clues?11:29
[LethAL] pawel, You need to boot into the new kernel, I take it you're not using grub?11:29
pawel[LethAL] : I'm running new kernel.11:30
[LethAL] Well I don't think you are...11:30
BockBilbopawel, have you tried to open the dalog11:30
BockBilboand acept the message?11:30
BockBilbo*accept11:30
mahangu[LethAL] , gxine wont display dvd menus>11:30
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Shin_Goukierick , still makin progress with java?11:30
[LethAL] mahangu, What makes you think I have any clues about DVD?11:30
bob2pawel: are you sure you'r running the kernel it says you should be using?11:31
Seveas[LethAL] , maybe you look smart :)11:31
ws003yes11:31
ws003no11:31
mahangu[LethAL] , sorry, my bad11:31
ws003yes no11:31
pawelBockBilbo: yeah. of course.11:31
[LethAL] mahangu, Don't worry :-11:31
[LethAL] )11:31
ws003opo kui11:31
mahanguthis is driving me up the wall11:31
mahangui had it working on my old install11:31
ws003i dont mudeng11:32
ws003you now11:32
ws003apaaan tuch11:32
Seveasws003, stop it11:32
Seveasthis is a support channel go somewhere else for other talk11:32
Seveasmahangu, what's up?11:32
pawelbob2: yes, I'm pretty sure. I just checked the packages with dpkg -l |grep linux-image and then uname -a says it's the new one.11:32
ws003apa lo11:32
mahanguSeveas, dvd menus wont show up in gxin11:32
mahangu*e11:32
ws003kurang gawean ya.11:32
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pawelit's so annoying.11:33
Seveasah, sorry, dunno about gxine, I use totem for dvds :)11:33
mahanguSeveas, totem wont open11:33
mahangui have totem-xine installed11:33
Seveaswhat's the error?11:33
mahangusec\11:33
erickIshin how can i install .deb packages? dpkg+package name11:35
Seveasalmost erick11:35
Seveassudo dpkg -i filename.deb11:35
Shin_Goukierick , sry i use only apt-get for isntall11:35
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mahangu_im in console11:36
mahangu_x hung on me11:36
mahangu_totem opens and hangs11:36
mahangu_Seveas: :)11:36
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mahangu_how can I kill x?11:36
BockBilboSeveas, do you have any idea of why couldnt I see some fonts in flash pages using the flashplugin-nonfree, and having msfonts, gfonts or gfonts-11 ?11:36
BockBilbomaangu11:37
SOMNIVMkillall gdm11:37
BockBilbogo to tty111:37
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mahangu_SOMNIVM: thanks11:37
BockBilboand sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:37
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Kreamhow do I get kdm to startup at boot?11:37
Seveasmahangu, eww :/11:37
BockBilbokrean11:37
BockBilboKream, sudo dkpg-reconfigure kdm11:37
Seveaswhat happens if you run it from the terminal?11:37
mahangu_operation not permitted11:37
Shin_Goukisudo11:37
SOMNIVMsudo killall gdm11:38
SeveasBockBilbo, no idea at all11:38
Zeke1hi, every tiem i restart ubuntu i have to manually set my eth1 to up and reset pppoeconf...how do i get it to do it automatically? can anyone help me?11:38
mahangu_there we go11:38
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BockBilbomahangu_, dot kill gdm11:38
BockBilbouse the stop option in the init.d gdm file11:38
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mahangu_BockBilbo: got it11:38
BockBilbook11:38
mahangu_any idea why my dvd is messing up?11:39
mahangu_what's the command to see freespace on a drive?11:39
SOMNIVMwhat's the problem with the DVD?11:39
BockBilbomahangu, have you installed libdvdcss2?11:39
pepsidf11:39
mahangu_BockBilbo: ill check11:39
CryptidWhich is the latest Version of Wine????11:39
SOMNIVM200509xx11:39
SOMNIVMnot sure for the xx11:39
SOMNIVM:}11:39
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knubbeanyone who can help me to downgrade acpi-support from 0.45 to 0.43? ive tried "sudo apt-get install acpi-support=0.43" without luck11:40
SOMNIVMit should download the lateset version with apt-get11:40
Cryptid200509 huh? i got 222503 how do i update it11:40
bob2knubbe: get the .deb. install with dpkg.11:41
mahangu_BockBilbo: ok installed11:41
SOMNIVMbut wine's repositories don't work good for me...I'm downloading at 608bit/s !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:41
mahangu_but totem still freezes up, and gxine wont show the menu11:41
SOMNIVMCryptid, impossible :)11:41
BockBilbocan you see the menus with xine for example?11:41
knubbebob2: ok.11:41
SOMNIVM2005 is the year, 09 is the month11:41
Cryptidis it?then i will be happy with the thing i have11:41
SOMNIVMxx is the day of the release11:42
BockBilbo(from the xine-ui package)11:42
mahangu_BockBilbo: nope11:42
mahangu_there is another library i need i think11:42
mahangu_just getting that as well11:42
Cryptidthen i have the march edition11:42
Cryptidne ways i also have cedega11:42
Shin_Goukierick , ur going further? made some progress?11:42
mahangu_BockBilbo: still no luck11:42
BockBilbomahangu_, maybe libdvdnav4 ?11:43
CryptidSOMNIVM, do u use cedega11:43
mahangu_BockBilbo: got that11:43
mahangu_should i reinstall gxine?11:43
SOMNIVMCryptid, nope11:43
mahangu_gxine is also different from what i remember it11:43
mahangu_the player i remember wasnt inside a window, and had skins, sort of11:43
mahangu_am i thinking of something else?11:43
CryptidSOMNIVM, do u have a cellphone (symbian series 60 phone)??11:43
BockBilboand what about the gstreamer0.8-dvd11:43
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SOMNIVMCryptid, nooo.... I have a Siemens...and it's not a smart phone11:44
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knubbebob2: do you know the url to any .deb package archive?11:46
ericksorry shin,11:46
mahangu_BockBilbo: that's installed too. now totem loads it fine11:46
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mahangu_but no sound11:46
mahangu_sigh.. :)11:46
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BockBilbohehe11:46
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BockBilbocheck the gstreamer plugins11:46
CryptidSOMNIVM, oh ok i actually wanted this smart movie converter for my phone i have the windows version but since i dont have windows i have to get it to work on linux and i dont know how to11:46
BockBilboand of course, be sure you are running the sound daemon11:47
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SOMNIVMCryptid, try WINE, but I'm not sure it will work...11:47
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Shin_Goukierick , dont give up i know u can make it!11:48
diegohola11:48
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CryptidSOMNIVM, i tried it and it didnt work neither did cedega work i says loading stack and then it hangs, so i am in soup because of it11:48
i-xhello11:48
diegoalguienme ayuda pliss11:48
SOMNIVMCryptid, the latest WINE version is 2005093011:48
bob2knubbe: not for ubuntu11:48
erickthanks shin11:48
bob2knubbe: /var/cache/apt/archives/11:49
pyberecently did a fresh install of 5.04 on my laptop been working fine for a couple of days, tried asking to hibernate to see if it would work, it did come back up but networking wouldn't work so did init 6 and it wont get past configuring networks now. Only thing I can do is power off. Powering off 3 times ballsed it even more and grub broke, so booted knoppix and fscked the partition which fixed grub but it still wont get past configuring networks...... Any one11:49
pybe got any ideas?????11:49
mahangu_BockBilbo: on my last laptop, i installed a dvd player, it was a skinnable one and worked this fine11:49
bob2diego: pretty clearly not a spanish channel11:49
mahangu_any idea what that migh tbe>11:49
BockBilbomplayer?11:49
diegoo sorru11:49
mahangu_diego: try #ubuntu-es11:49
diegosorry11:49
mahangu_BockBilbo: no not mplayer11:49
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BockBilboxine?11:49
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mahangu_xine yes11:49
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mahangu_where can i get a xine UI?11:49
mahangu_that is not gxine?11:49
BockBilbosudo apt-get install xine-ui11:49
CryptidSOMNIVM, so i have to unistall my present version before installing the latest version11:49
Cryptidor can i overrite it11:50
mahangu_whoops, got it!11:50
mahangu_BockBilbo: thanks, will see how this goes11:50
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SOMNIVMCryptid, uninstall....and make a clear install11:50
BockBilbomahangu_, :)11:50
erickshin I got an error i use dpkg -i packages name and this is the error error processing sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+updated04_i386.deb11:51
aftertafpybe:  try sudo ifdown eth011:51
BockBilbobob2, do you have any clue of why cant i see some fonts in flash sites using the flashplugin-nonfree ?11:51
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BockBilbo:S11:51
SOMNIVMbut I don't think it will work this time....why don't you try the trial version of crossover office ? It's wine based11:51
mahangu_aftertaf: lo11:51
erickshort read in buffer_copy11:51
aftertafhi screen fan ;)11:51
pybeaftertaf, it gets stuck in the boot sequence11:51
SyrussI'd like to install mame and the gxmame frontend on to my ubuntu machine, should I add a new repository to my sources.list (and if so, which) to install via apt, or should I download the source and try installing from that?11:51
i-xcan anyone explain how to compile ndiswrapper? i've tried to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto , but it wont work. Please!11:51
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aftertafpybe:  remove the dhcp stuff...... loking where ;)11:51
propagandhipybe: if you press CTRL+C when its at configuring network, does it get past11:52
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Syrussi-x, be more descriptive 'it won't work' is not good.11:52
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diegohola como me cambio a ubuntu es11:52
diego???11:52
pybepropagandhi, nope all I can d is hold the power button11:52
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Belutz!es11:52
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:52
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SOMNIVM diego, debes que escribir /j #ubuntu-es11:52
pybepropagandhi, the hd act light is v busy at the same time11:52
propagandhipybe: what about booting the recovery mode kernel11:53
bob2BockBilbo: I don't use flash11:53
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pybepropagandhi, behaves the exact same way11:53
BockBilbooks bob2 thanks anyway11:53
BockBilbo:S11:53
pybeaftertaf, its not set to use dhcp11:53
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aftertafpybe: what does it use then?11:53
i-xSyruss: sed: can not read debian/changelog.utils: Map or file does not exist11:54
pybeaftertaf, gee let me think... er a static ip11:54
i-xSyruss: (my translation)11:54
i-xSyruss: (ubuntu post errors in swedish)11:54
aftertafpybe:  hehehe.... is it connecting you with an ethernet modem? is it part of your local lan?11:54
propagandhipybe: do u have a live cd11:54
pybelocal lan11:54
pybepropagandhi, several11:54
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pybepropagandhi, using knoppix now11:55
propagandhiok, so boot a live cd and mount the ubuntu partition11:55
ubuntu_helllo11:55
pybedone11:55
Hendriccan anyone help me install ubuntu on a DELL Optiplex GX1... and why does it halts on "disk partitioner" and shows me ??????????????11:55
propagandhiok, can u paster the contents of /etc/network/interfaces11:55
Syrusshmm11:55
propagandhi*paste11:55
pybeone sec11:55
aftertafpybe:  if you cant do it via live cd, then remove the NIC and reboot....?11:55
Syrussnot sure i-x11:55
Syruss:/11:55
aftertafHendric:  how much mem do you have?11:56
Hendric128MB11:56
pybeaftertaf, its a laptop11:56
Hendricp3 500MHZ11:56
aftertafahh ok. pybe if you deactivate NIC in bios then?11:56
aftertafHendric:  'should' be ok resource wise then...11:56
Hendricd disk is (as shown on the bios) an EIDE 13GB drive11:57
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Hendrici guess its a problem with the drive..11:57
erickshin I encounter error11:57
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Hendricbecause if i press continue on the error prompt... it says.. 'E: unimplimented function"11:57
Hendricany work around???11:58
Hendricand one thing.. it complains on ACPI something.. no such device11:59
aftertafturn off all Power management stuff in bios...12:00
Hendricd bios is only one page and doesnt have any power management stuff12:00
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aftertafthat sux. ive got loads of old optiplex at work and i leave them collecting dust.12:01
mahanguBockBilbo: xine ui works! :) ok now i need a tool to rip to disk12:01
mahangudvd to divx?12:02
mahangugodfather trilogy! :P12:02
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BockBilbohehe12:03
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BockBilbomahangu, cant help you with that, sorry12:03
ninotchkahi12:03
mahanguBockBilbo: ok np12:04
mahanguthanks anyway12:04
mahangu:)12:04
BockBilbo;)12:04
BockBilbonp12:04
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aftertafmahangu:  mencoder12:04
Hendrici guess i'll install debian on this...12:04
Hendricthe debian 30MB iso12:04
Jedrickhow to install java12:05
aftertaf!java12:05
ubotuwell, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java12:05
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Jedrickk12:05
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Belutzubotu, tell Jedrick about javadeb12:05
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BockBilboquery ubotu12:06
mahanguhow can i see the amount of free space on a drive?12:06
[LethAL] fd12:06
mahanguthanks [LethAL] 12:07
[LethAL] df*12:07
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[LethAL] mahangu, you might prefer to add the --human option12:07
Jedricki do this sudo apt-get install j2rel.4 and i got this error " E: Couldn't find package j2rel.412:08
Jedrick "12:08
mahangu[LethAL] : how can i see the file/dir sizes in a specific folder?12:09
Belutz!javadebs12:09
ubotuBelutz: Bugger all, i dunno12:09
mahanguls -al ?12:09
Belutz!javadeb12:09
ubotujavadeb is, like, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java12:09
mahangubut that shows bytes12:09
mahanguhow can i get mv12:09
mahanguMb12:09
BelutzJedrick, go  to where ubotu just told12:09
[LethAL] mahangu, df --human12:09
Jedricki did12:09
[LethAL] mahangu, as for dirs, no idea12:09
Jedrickthats what i do12:09
BelutzJedrick, you have to download the java .deb files12:09
Jedrickfrom where?12:10
Belutzthe url ubotu just told you12:10
Belutzdon't you read it?12:10
Jedricki told you ive been there and got that error12:10
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dasShHh123hi12:11
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tristanmikedasShHh123, careful, looks like you have some buttons stuck12:11
dasShHh123putang ina12:12
dasShHh123yopyhphupptp70t12:12
BelutzJedrick, go to http://tinyurl.com/bwomt12:12
dasShHh123imujjuuujunyuhgihgterthsehthtubhhyr8tydgbthygurrvdyrhdhrhfcyrjydrghtr12:12
dasShHh123rhgjr9ry9ryr8y99yhujtuj8ybej908buyj8uybjod8rybj89ey12:12
BelutzJedrick, where did you go?12:12
Belutz!ops12:12
ubotuops is probably Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth12:12
tristanmikegoodbye dasShHh12312:12
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dasShHh123yrjmyeykyukyjutujtujmtujykcykcr86l8ll8kt6jt68ly7k12:12
Jedrickok12:12
Jedrickwait i go check12:12
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BelutzJedrick, you are using hoary or breezy?12:12
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Jedrickhoary12:13
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ubuntu_userI Made A Mistake And Formated Ext3 Part', Now Have No BootLoader, HELP?12:13
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BockBilboubuntu_user, use a livecd to restore te mbr12:14
BelutzJedrick, ok go to that url i just gave you, download the .deb file12:14
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ubuntu_userI'm on Live-CD and GParted is open, How do i do it ?12:14
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Jedrickok12:14
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BockBilboubuntu_user, did you remove the system partition?12:15
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ubuntu_userI Formated It12:15
Jedrickthere are 3 of them.. which one?12:15
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Green_spritzehi there!12:15
ubuntu_userAnd Now There Is no WIn BootLoader Or GRUB12:15
BockBilboubuntu_user, and what do you exactly wat to do?12:15
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BockBilbooh.. boot win?12:15
Green_spritzeI'm looking howto send an email from the shell using my ISP's smtp server12:16
Green_spritzewith postfix :)12:16
ubuntu_useri want et list the option to boot from windows XP12:16
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BockBilboif you want to boot win, yo need to restart the computer with your win cd inside the pc12:16
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ubuntu_userand from there i will use PartitionMagic And Fix it all12:16
rushboyhello cansomebody tell me where i can find the german Ubuntu help channel ?12:16
BockBilboand in the command line write something like RestoreMBR12:16
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BockBilboyou cannot run grub since you have deleted your ext3 partition12:17
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BockBilboother option is to reinstall ubuntu12:17
ubuntu_userFdisk /MBR12:17
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woldenCould anyone be kind enough to help me doing the most basic of things?12:17
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Green_spritzeubuntu_user correct! :)12:17
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tristanmikewolden, just ask :)12:18
ubuntu_userThe Problem That I Have No Floppy Disk!12:18
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woldenok, to install something, i swear im struggling my head off and i cant get beep media plyer on12:18
BockBilboand?12:18
ubuntu_userAnd I'm Wreking My Brains How TO Create a WIn98 Boot CD.12:18
ubuntu_userAnd I'm Wreking My Brains How TO Create a WIn98 Boot CD.12:18
BockBilboubuntu_user, dont you have a cd drive?12:18
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ubuntu_userYes12:19
BockBilboreboot with the ubuntu install cd and install ubuntu12:19
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tristanmikewolden, did you "sudo apt-get install beep-media-player" ?12:19
tristanmikewolden, or search it via synaptic?12:19
ubuntu_userI allsow Have A burner on My Other PC, I Just Dont Know whare i can get the Boot Files So I Can Burn The CD12:19
ubuntu_userI trayed It, And got into A-loop12:20
ubuntu_userthat was my first choice12:20
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ubuntu_usercan ubuntu be Installed on a HD that alredy have premade ext3 partitions ?12:21
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BockBilboyes12:21
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BockBilbothough, format that partition first, it would be a better choice12:21
ubuntu_userthat is i have the all 3 partitions, system swap, & the other one12:22
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BockBilboubuntu_user, you can tell the installer in which partition you want to install ubunt12:22
BockBilbo*ubuntu12:22
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BockBilboi gotta go12:23
BockBilbobye!12:23
ubuntu_useri did choos the system ext3 part' but it throw me into a loop12:23
ubuntu_userso i was not able to install it12:23
monstahhello.. i can't get the network to run.. i'm using wlan but the installer doesn't seem to recognize it, how do i fix this?12:23
ubuntu_userbut lets say i'll tray it agin, will GRUb put en option agin to Boot WIndows?12:24
BockBilboyes12:24
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ubuntu_userOK BockBilbo, i'll give it another go.. Thanck you :}12:25
tristanmikeubuntu_user, what loop do you speak of? out of curiosity?12:25
ubuntu_userty12:25
BockBilbou r welcome12:25
BockBilbotristanmike, i guess he hasnt configure the ext3 partition as /12:25
BockBilboin the installer..12:25
BockBilbobye12:25
tristanmikeahhhh12:25
ubuntu_useri don't know exactlly how to describe thr loop, i just can go on & install it.12:25
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ubuntu_userthe*12:25
ubuntu_usercan't*12:26
ubuntu_user:)12:26
tristanmikeubuntu_user, it should be as simple as deleting all partitions *except XP* and let ubuntu do the rest :)12:26
ubuntu_userhmm.. i see.12:26
ubuntu_useryou know what ...12:27
tristanmikethat's "/" and "swap"12:27
monstahanyone know how to get a wlan-card to work?!12:27
crashboxhas anyone been able to install vlc on an amd64 breezy install?12:27
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ubuntu_usernow that i can see all my partitions fro the GParted utilitie maybe i can to it now, from it?12:27
jarkom27halo12:27
ubuntu_userfrom* :)12:27
mahangumarlon brando rocks my pants off12:28
mahanguwoo12:28
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ubuntu_usertrayed it, it's not letting me do it. i'll tray installing ubuntu..12:28
mahanguhow can i force unmount my dvd-rom?12:28
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tristanmikeubuntu_user, I just used the Ubuntu Partitioner, but should be similar, just make sure you don't wipe out XP ;)12:29
ubuntu_useryah, sure!12:29
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ubuntu_useri know my XP part is hda112:29
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dincimy usb stick gets mounted on /media/no_name and not in /media/usbkey. why?12:30
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ubuntu_userok, ty all :} i'll give it a go. bye.12:30
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propagandhidinci: check /etc/fstab12:30
supergroverIs anyone using xfce4, and have to use a password to shutdown their pc?12:31
dincii don't think the problem is in /etc/fstab. isn't it a problem with the automounter?12:31
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pschulz01Help... I have hosed my partition table, and probably also my boot sector... the machine is still running.. does anyone know how I can restore these? The system is still running. (Worst case.. I'll backup and install Breezy)12:32
propagandhidinci: in /etc/fstab the mount points are defined, is there  one there for the usb?12:32
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dincii don't have the linux box here - i will check for that12:33
pschulz01Help, I have trashed 'hda', my partition table and12:33
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nrbqhowdy, possums12:34
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nrbqAre there any appies out there for Ubuntu similar to CoolEdit, Adobe Audition, and Cubase?12:35
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propagandhipschulz01: what happens when you execute cfdisk12:35
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aaron_well, found alot of bugs in breezy... :-/12:36
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pschulz01propagandhi: Free space 80 Gb12:36
propagandhiwhat the.. thats crazy12:36
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nrbqdoes anyone know of any ubuntu apps out there that are like CoolEdit, Adobe Audition, and Cubase?12:37
propagandhihang on12:37
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pschulz01propagandhi: But /proc/partitions shows 4 partitions.. so I may be able to rebuild12:37
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propagandhipschulz01: you will be able to, gimme a tic12:38
pschulz01propagandhi: It was a 'dd' that went horribly wrong. (hda instead of sda)12:38
propagandhiahh ok12:38
Shin_Goukinrbq , there are12:38
pschulz01propagandhi: Friends don't let friends drink and dd.12:38
nrbqShin_Gouki, can you recommend any?12:38
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Shin_Goukinrbq , sec12:39
propagandhipschulz01: ha ha12:39
nrbqcool12:39
pschulz01propagandhi: It's one of my more faviourite tools.12:39
propagandhipschulz01: have u seen this yet http://www.linux.com/howtos/Partition/recovering.shtml12:39
Shin_Goukinrbq , muse?12:40
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Green_spritzeanyone knows a good textbased mail client ?12:40
Shin_Goukinrbq , sweep12:40
nrbqI'll have a look - basically, I compose small pieces of music via midi keyboard (edirol) and external midi controller (edirol), but want to move completely away from MS12:40
amorphGreen_spritze: mutt12:40
Green_spritzeamorph thanks! that was the one I was looking for ... forgot the name ;)12:41
nrbqShin_Gouki, have you used any of these? Can you offer any comments?12:41
Shin_Goukinrbq , http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2001/10/05/snd_partone.html12:41
Shin_Goukinrbq , check this out12:41
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nrbqjust going there now, Shin_Gouki12:42
propagandhipschulz01: did u take a look, perhaps gpart or TestDisk will help first, otherwise you can follow those instructions12:42
Shin_Goukinrbq , usefull ?12:43
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sreehi12:43
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sreehow do I dual boot ubuntu wit windows12:44
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sreewithout destroying my windows partitions ???12:44
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Shin_Goukisree boot manager12:44
nrbqShin_Gouki, I'll read that article. Thanks. Much appreciated12:44
Hobbsee!dualboot12:44
ubotuhmm... dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo12:44
Shin_Goukinrbq , :) glad to help12:44
nrbq:)12:45
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pschulz01propagandhi: I'm happy to use 'cfdisk'.. but I'm going to have to reinstall the boot loader.12:45
curious101hello, anyone have configured a SmartLink modem with Ubuntu?12:45
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pschulz01propagandhi: It's a mac mini.. so it not lilo.12:45
nrbqy'all be good12:45
nrbqpeace!12:45
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curious101does the "apt-get" command always downloads from the net?12:46
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sree!google ubuntu12:47
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, sree12:47
sreeubotu12:47
Shin_Goukicurious101 no12:47
pschulz01propagandhi: What are blocks measured in? cfdisk wants 'sectors' or 'cylinders'.12:47
Shin_Goukicurious101 no also CD is possible12:47
sreehow do I get grub working12:47
curious101oh12:47
Shin_Goukicurious101 manage via sources.list!!12:47
Shin_Goukicurious101 yes i was surprised too ^^12:48
Shin_Goukiubuntu/Linux is .. very cool!12:48
curious101'coz ubuntu guide tells me to "sudo dpkg -i sl-modem..."12:48
curious101and yes it was successful12:48
Shin_Gouki:)12:48
curious101however...12:48
Shin_Goukistill dont work eh?12:48
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propagandhipschulz01: the formula was on that page wasnt it12:48
curious101"sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon" would result in an error not found12:49
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curious101since i already extracted the .deb package and put it in the apt-cache12:49
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Shin_Goukicurious101 u have to reformulate ur question , ask here in channel if anyone knows sources for that desierd package!12:49
curious101i just wondered why "apt-get install sl-modem-daemon" won't work12:50
pschulz01propagandhi: Sorry.. didn't get message with instruction location.12:51
supergroveranyone use xfce4 in breezy?12:51
Shin_Goukierick, got ur java runnig?12:51
curious101oh, sorry Shin. so I should be downloading that sl-modem-daemon package from the ubuntu archives?12:51
Shin_Goukisupergrover, i use icewm?12:51
Shin_Goukicurious101, try to do so12:51
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supergroverdon't worry, just wanted to check something about xfce412:51
propagandhihttp://www.linux.com/howtos/Partition/recovering.shtml12:51
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curious101ok, thanks...i'll be back and report the results12:52
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pschulz01propagandhi: Thanks.12:52
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aftertaf!ops12:54
ubotuops is, like, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth12:54
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aftertaf:)12:55
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Seveasmeh, the script kiddies woke up again12:55
Hendricwhere do webcams get mounted????12:55
aftertafHendric:  they clip onto the monitor usually.... ;)12:55
Seveasnowhere12:55
Seveasand that :)12:55
Hendricaftertaf, ow.. physically yes..12:55
kemikwhy's this network so plagued by bots ?12:55
Hendricaftertaf, in ubuntu where does it mount?12:56
aftertafnowhere... its not a disk device12:56
Hendrici've had a near perfect system now... webcam is all i need last12:56
Seveaskemik, because MS infected all windows pcs with software that plagues open source and open source supporting projects12:56
Hendricah... should i say location???12:56
aftertaflol Seveas 1+1=2 ?12:57
Hendric/dev/webcam?12:57
kemikSeveas:  hehe, well yea ;) but i dont see these kind of troubles on other nets such as Efnet etc.. .12:57
kemikit's as if freenode has lesser security or sth12:57
Seveasyou can't really prevent this12:57
Seveasit's a huge botnet12:58
Seveasand for some reason the kiddie behind it thinks it's a good idea to target freenode12:58
Hendrici've got DVD playin, mp3, mp4, wma, all of them, i can view webcam yahoo thru gyach (fixed).. openoffice.. and all12:58
kemiki c... well prevention: ban windoze ;)12:58
Hendricnow i need to get my webcam broadcast.. any ideas about its /dev location?12:58
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Grant_Hendric: mine uses /dev/video0 its just a cheap 8pound cam :)01:00
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Hendrici got a webcam made in china with a windows driver that will install on all kinds of webcam and screws d driver database...01:01
Hendricvery cheap very destructive webcam indeed01:01
SteveAhi.  my father (who is a retired linguist) just asked me if breezy supports chinese.  any experience with this?01:02
Shin_GoukiLOL01:02
SteveAhe currently uses windows01:02
Shin_Goukidestructive webcams i might be afraid of this ^^01:02
SteveAmostly in english, but uses chinese websites, sends email in chinese, write chinese MS word docs.01:02
Shin_GoukisteveA01:02
Shin_GoukiLinux supports all languages01:02
HendricShin_Gouki, you should be! if you installed its driver on your system.. you won't make your CAM to work anymore.. trust me01:03
Shin_Goukiubuntu even chinese01:03
SteveAi know getting chinese to work on debian takes a lot of work01:03
ccookeSteveA: there's good language support in Linux in general01:03
kbrooks1.8gb ....01:03
kbrooksnot much01:03
SteveAgetting the input methods sorted01:03
SteveAnew fonts01:03
ccookeSteveA: there are language packs on ubuntu01:03
Shin_GoukisteveA, yes lots of work but it is possible! try to use unicode as often as possible!!01:03
SteveAmy father lives in a different country to me01:03
Shin_GoukiSteveA, yes lots of work but it is possible! try to use unicode as often as possible!! There are so many possibilitys01:03
ccookeSteveA: tell you what - I'll stick the chinese input method on here and see how easy it is01:03
SteveAand has never used linux before01:03
Hendrichey Shin_Gouki, any ideas on a distro for my DELL optiplex (old)01:03
Hendricubuntu won't install and halts on partitioner..01:04
SteveAccooke: cool01:04
Hendricthat sucked.01:04
topyliSteveA: isn't reading websites just a matter of fonts? we do have those01:04
Shin_GoukiHendric, yes use ubuntu like me! im ATM at a P233 , 128 MB ram01:04
ccookeSteveA: ... looking *very* easy.01:04
HendricShin_Gouki, it won't continue after the disk paritioner.. wondering wats wrong01:04
Shin_GoukiHendric, u need net acess about 4 GB HD space LOTSS of patience the rest will be ok01:04
Grant_Or you could try and debian it and then upgrade to ubuntu :/ i've seen it done but dunno how neat it is..01:04
Grant_thats if debian will install :/01:05
ccookeSteveA: got breezy now?01:05
kbrooksGrant_: only on woody ;)01:05
Hendricmy disk is 13GB... d PC is fast enough.. but it won't partition...01:05
SteveAccooke: sounds good.  i guess i need to grab my breezy laptop and try it out.01:05
Grant_ah01:05
Shin_GoukiHendric, i used new HD :/ askk here in challen for install support01:05
SteveAccooke: nope, still hoary on this workstation.  breezy on laptop.01:05
ccookeSteveA: System -> Administration -> Language selector.01:05
Hendrick01:05
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Shin_GoukiHendric, if HD was empty, NTFS... etc..01:05
kbrooksGrant_: woody is so old that everything will be replaced anyway01:05
ccookeSteveA: that'll install all the packages you need.01:05
Grant_kbrooks: ah i didnt know what ver you could do that on :/01:06
HendricAny install support for my old DELL with 13GB EIDE drive?? stalls on partitioner.. any helpful install parameter???01:06
ccookeSteveA: then, on System -> Preferences -> Keyboard, you need to add the Chinese keyboard layout.01:06
SteveAccooke: that's great.  i'll try it when i have my laptop with me.01:06
ccookeSteveA: And you'll probably want the language selector applet for the panel. I think that'll do it.01:06
ccookeSteveA: That works for Hebrew, at least (my wife's Israeli), and this process installs bidirectional support in openoffice.01:07
ccookeSteveA: Ah, no. Chinese input is more complicated.01:08
ccookeSteveA: gimme a few more minutes01:08
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pschulz01propagandhi: Thanks for your help. It was a good read. I'm going to reinstall anyway.01:08
kbrookstest01:08
ccookeSteveA: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2541201:08
ccookeSteveA: that's hoary. Breezy may be simpler.01:09
ccookeSteveA: just looking...01:09
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pilgrim_executerdoes anyone know how to get ALSA working in windowmaker? or any sound at all for that matter01:13
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topylijust looked at the default theme after a long time. breezy artwork is pretty nice!01:13
Bateau_how can i login as root?01:13
topyli!root01:14
ubotuhmm... root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:14
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eythianIn firefox, I used to be able to have a URL in the clipboard, and middle-click on the page and it would go to that URL. Now that doesn't seem to work. Any ideas why?01:14
Belutzhas anyone successfully install netbeans in breezy?01:14
ccookeSteveA: actually, the language selector alone does almost everything you need.01:14
topylieythian: yeah, i miss that too01:15
ccookeSteveA: I'm not sure about a chinese input method, but that looks pretty easy to install.01:15
eythiantopyli, when did it go away?01:15
pilgrim_executerthe middle click works for me01:15
SteveAccooke: thanks for your pointers.  i'll give it a go.01:15
SteveAif it works out, i'll encourage my father to try breezy01:16
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topylieythian: dunno. i thought i only had to miss it because i've been using epiphany :)01:16
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Magist3rhello01:16
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eythianIt used to work for me in FF, I'm sure.01:16
topylieythian: yes, even in ye olde mozilla it did01:17
pilgrim_executercan i start alsa from a terminal?01:17
eythianyeah. Wonder how I can get it back...01:17
Magist3rsorry,i have problems whith ubuntu live,i boot from cd,then it says that can't find the cdrom,the pc is a notebook travelmate 4152 whith pci express,what kind of module i must use?01:17
Magist3rty for help01:17
aftertafpilgrim_executer:  what do ou mean, start alsa?  youcan modprobe the alsa mod for your card, and soundcore too...01:18
eythianahah, in about:config there is an option middlemouse.paste Unfortunately, it's marked true, and it doesn't work :(01:18
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aftertafMagist3r:  look in /media    can you get your cdrom that way?  is it mounted?01:18
topylieythian: i found it in ephy too just now. doesn't work01:19
Magist3raftertaf, wait i open a shell01:19
aftertafeythian:  maye in X your middle mouse button is mapped to sth else and it blocks FF.01:19
eythianNo, I just worked it out.01:19
eythianabout:config and change middlemouse.contentLoadURL to true01:19
topyliaftertaf: my middle click pastes stuff everywhere else, but not in ephy01:19
Magist3raftertaf, i have in / the dir cdrom01:20
Magist3rbut is not mounted01:20
aftertafMagist3r:  and in /media ?01:20
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Magist3ri not have any media directory01:20
Magist3ryou means mnt?01:20
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pilgrim_executeraftertaf: holy shit, i need the dumb ass award - my stereo was not turned on, lol! sorry hehe01:20
topyliMagist3r: /cdrom should be link to /media/cdrom01:21
StricklinFor some reason, I'm having problems installing wine01:21
aftertaflol pilgrim_executer :)   it happens :)01:21
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eythianStricklin, how are you trying to install it?01:21
Stricklineythian, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb01:22
Stricklinfrom the console01:22
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Magist3rtopyli, i not have any media dir01:22
pefhello01:22
eythianStricklin, OK. I did that today, and it worked fine for me.01:22
Stricklinhmmm01:22
eythianjust add deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/ to your sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get install wine and away you go01:23
topyliMagist3r: then your filesystem is either broken or custom :)01:23
Magist3ris an ubuntu live01:23
StricklinI did those, but wine never shows up01:23
topyliMagist3r: ah, well then i don't know01:24
StricklinOh well, I need to move to Breezy anyway01:24
eythianhave a look through synaptic or something?01:25
[A] ndy80I've a problem with my toshiba laptop and Ubuntu Breezy: when I suspend to ram or when system suspend itself to ram if I leave it on standy, I cannot resume it anymore :( I've to keep the power button pressed, and power on again... is it a fix available?01:25
Dreamglideri just installed ubuntu 5.04 from internet last night. if i follow the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes on updating ubuntu to 5.10 how much will be downloaded ?01:25
topyliStricklin: where should it show up? no "wine" binary? what does 'which wine' say?01:25
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Stricklinin Synaptic, no wine package01:25
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aftertaf!info wine01:26
ubotuwine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB01:26
[A] ndy80DreaManiac: if you just installed, why don't you get 5.10 preview and install it?01:26
Stricklinat the console, it gives an error01:26
topyliStricklin: you haven't updated01:26
aftertafStricklin:  you enabled universe?01:26
eythianStricklin, well? what's the error?01:26
StricklinYes, and no01:26
eythianaftertaf, the Ubuntu wine is crazy old.01:26
eythianwell, fairly old, anyway01:26
Stricklinbah, gotta go to work, I'll mess with this later01:27
Stricklinthanks anyway01:27
topylihuh? there's an xwine package too. what does a wine gui do?01:27
eythiantopyli, I think it's for configuration or something01:28
topylieythian: such as winesetuptk?01:28
topyliah, "It provides an interface for configuring and running MS-Windows applications". so it's a runtime tool01:29
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eythianhmm OK01:29
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tristanmikegood night all :)01:32
Bateau_does someone here know about ejabberd? and can help me out? im trying to configure it to work with our companys existing AD users.01:32
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Stricklinback01:32
StricklinWhat does Ign http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Release.gpg mean?01:33
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HobbseeStricklin: for some reason, the two newest versions of wine arent on that server...01:33
StricklinThen, I get the error: "Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package wine has no installation candidate"01:34
topyliStricklin: maybe they don't have a release.gpg file there. apt doesn't regard it an error and ignores it01:34
chuck_grwhat is the latest available version of wone?01:35
chuck_grwine even01:35
topyliStricklin: missing packages on the other hand, seem to count as errors :)01:35
Stricklinhmmm01:35
topyliwine XP01:36
mahangue01:36
aftertaf!info cowsay01:36
ubotucowsay: (A configurable talking cow), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 3.03-6 (hoary), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 268 kB01:36
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mahanguaftertaf, it's cool ill find it later01:37
mahangui gotta go study now01:37
StricklinI'm able to build it from source01:37
StricklinSo, I guess that's what I'll do... while I'm at work :)01:38
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brownie17!grub01:39
ubotusomebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting01:39
aftertaflol01:39
Dreamglideris amaroK any good ?01:39
brownie17Dreamglider, it is all reall preference01:40
topyliDreamglider: i've heard about people who use it01:40
topyliso i guess01:40
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Dreamgliderhow can i enable mp3 support ?01:41
topyliDreamglider: in kde i don't know. in gnome, install gstreamer0.8-mad01:41
Seveas!mp301:42
ubotusomebody said mp3 was read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support01:42
eythianDreamglider, I found amaroK to be awesome.01:42
eythianalthough now I'm using Rhythmbox, because I'm trying out the Gnome thing.01:43
Seveashmm, let's get another bot in here and let them battle each other :)01:44
topyliyeah, a question bot01:45
brownie17how do i change the order of the options in Grub?01:45
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chuck_gredit the grub config file01:46
topylibrownie17: you could change their order in /boot/grub/menu.lst01:46
topyliby editing very carefully and making a backup01:46
thuxHi, just noticed that I have tmpfs twice in breezy when I do df -h?01:47
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topylithux: so do i01:47
thuxnever seen that before in linux01:47
chuck_gri dont01:48
topylithux: seems to be mounted on a device, plus a module. news to me01:48
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thuxtopyli: ok01:48
topylithux: /dev/shm doesn't seem to require very much though :)01:49
pawelhas anyone come across a problem when rhythmbox doesn't want to open playlist files while accessing them from other applications (e.g firefox)01:49
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topylipawel: do you mean net radio streams and such, or what sort of files?01:50
paweltopyli: yeah.01:50
topylisome time ago, i had totem and rb fighting over them and they were left unopened. i never solved it01:51
topyliexcept by explicitly opening rb and pasting the URL to it01:51
paweltopyli: when a .pls file is associated with rhythmbox, the player starts, but doesn't load the playlist.01:52
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topylipawel: yes, i heard it was totem's fault. are you using hoary?01:52
kbrookswtf is dbus01:52
paweltopyli: no, breezy.01:53
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topylipawel: strange. let me see, i thought i never had this problem on breezy. i'll check01:53
paweland it seems like it's not a firefox fault, I doesn't even work when I drag'n'drop a file to rhythmbox.01:54
pawela file, I mean a playlist file, didn't check a regualar mp3 file.01:54
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bimberikbrooks: http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/dbus01:55
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pawelI can go for bmp or xmms, but it's not the point, I really like rhythbox and have been using it for ages.01:56
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topylipawel: copy a link from somafm.com, open rb, choose "new station", and paste. works for me01:57
robertjwhere can I find a complete list of all boot paramaters on the Breezy Live CD?01:57
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paweltopyli: yeah, but why don't you try to associate the playlist with rb and let firefox open rb on its onw01:59
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paweltopyli: this doesn't work.01:59
topylipawel: no it doesn't01:59
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topylibugzilla time i guess. btw i used epiphany but i don't think it makes a difference here02:00
pawelit's stupid, it should. It used to work like this in Slackware, Fedora or even from scratch.02:00
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ksmurfI have added a script called powernowd to /etc/modprobe.d but it didn't load...... how do I update startup so it will?02:01
paweltopyli: I'm just going to build rhythmbox from scratch and see if it's rhythbox fault02:01
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bob2ksmurf: you mean /etc/ini.td?02:02
topylipawel: the bug could be somewhere in gnome mime-fu depths of weirdness as well02:02
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ksmurfyes bob202:02
bob2ksmurf: you know powernowd is already in ubuntu, right?02:03
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Mic_haelwriting a French text with accents and everything is horrible with my keyboard layout problem... I have to use the Character map tool! If anyone would be so kind to look at the details of this problem (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70926), that would be great...02:03
Mic_hael(and yes, writing a French text is horrible even without this problem...)02:04
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aftertafMic_hael:  what is the problme?02:04
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thenukeMic_hael: blah, just skip the accents :)02:05
ksmurfwhat I need is to be able to have p4-clockmod loaded b4 powernowd starts02:05
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anivairmorning?02:06
thoreauputicthenuke: French without accents is like a woman without kisses! *grin*02:06
anivairexcellent02:06
Shin_GoukiLOL02:06
Mic_haelwell, with 5.04 I could use dead keys for accents02:06
Shin_Goukifunny... ;)02:06
Mic_haelI have a inspiron 5100 with a us qwerty keyboard02:06
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Mic_haelsince I upgraded to breezy, no more dead keys02:06
aftertafahh oki02:06
Mic_haeland I can't find how to change it02:06
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aftertafksmurf:  use webmin to change order at boot.02:07
ksmurfaftertaf webmin?  but right now p4-clockmod is not even getting loaded02:08
ksmurfuntil I do it manually?02:08
paweltopyli: how can I see/edit mime types in gnome? I tried to change by clicking on a playlist file, but it doesn't allow me to remove current entries, I can add new, but not remove/see rhythbox and totem settings.02:09
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aftertafuse update-rc.d ksmurf to add it02:09
Shin_Goukihi anyone idea for a programm to view svg files under ubuntu?02:10
topylipawel: no idea, i'll try and look around in gconf-editor02:10
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ksmurfaftertaf so I would type sudo modprobe p4-clockmod and then update.rc.d?02:12
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tenshiKur0hey, all .. wondering if someone can help with something...02:13
tenshiKur0try to revert to a clean install of apache202:13
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aftertafnope.... ksmurf sudo update-rc.d ..... adds a script in /etc/init.d to the start sequence. look in /etc/init.d see if no script for p-clockmod02:14
tenshiKur0had it working fine previously, made some adjustsment (wasn't broken, tried to fix it)... and now, it's not listening on 80... or it appears as though something else, which doesn't make sense, as i know there's nothing else installed and set to02:14
aftertafksmurf:  man update-rc.d ...... is quite well written02:15
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pawel i've created an account on bugzilla but it didn't send me my password yet. :/02:16
ksmurfk thanks02:16
aftertafbut if you get stuck, ask ;)      the -n switch modifies nothing, just shows you what it would have done...02:17
paweltopyli: did you find anything?02:19
irvinwhat cd/dvd burning app is available for ubuntu using gnome?02:19
topylipawel: there are similar bugs. however, the best i've found so far talks about pls files not working at all (not the case with us), and m3u files working ok02:20
bimberiirvin: nautilus (the file manager) can do data cds/dvds, otherwise there's gnomebaker and graveman02:21
eythianirvin, if you pop a blank CD in, it should pop straight up with a burning program. Doesn't work so good for DVDs tho, I found.02:21
Mic_haelHere's more information about that keyboard problem I have... http://users.skynet.be/fb375180/Screenshot.png Note how it says I have 101 keys (I only have 85 or so) and that I can't add a new layout!02:21
irvinthanks bimberi. eythian02:21
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bimberiirvin: yw :)02:22
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siimowill gnome 2.12.1 make it into breezy ? later as an update or something02:22
irvinsiimo, yes02:22
irvinit's already in breezy02:22
siimocool02:22
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tiefoxanyone has any experience using banshee to send songs to an Ipod shuffle ?02:23
topylipawel: ah. #14517, "opening a .pls will not result in rb playing the stream"02:23
kikinovakHi. My Ubuntu install went A-OK. Near to perfect. One thing puzzles me. I have no sound. lsmod shows ens_1371 OK. Setting in alsamixer seem ok too. Do things work differently under ubuntu? My user is even in the 'audio' group, so it can't be that...02:23
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kikinovakBTW I have Kubuntu, not Ubuntu.02:23
topylipawel: marked as an upstream bug, so you won't win by building rb yourself either02:23
eythiankikinovak, volume up? Make sure it's not muted.02:23
kikinovakeythian: in alsamixer?02:24
paweltopyli: yeah, I found it, #14517.02:24
eythiankikinovak, yeah02:24
kikinovaksec02:24
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rjordantenshiKur0, so you're not listening on port 80? Are you sure apache is running?02:25
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paweltopyli: wait, xmms and bmp pick the playlists properly.02:25
topylipawel: totem too. i want rhythmbox! :)02:26
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eythiantopyli, code up a patch :)02:26
pawelthis sucks!02:26
pawel;)02:26
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pawels/i want/we want/02:26
pawel!02:26
pawel;>02:26
ubotupawel: I give up, what is it?02:26
topylieythian: might as well add stream support to muine too, while i'm at it :)02:27
DanglyBitshow can i get the 32 bit versions of mozilla-firefox and flash to work together in breezy 64?02:27
Kris_klmao the AI in HL2 on cedega is speeded up just a bit ?02:27
eythiantopyli, sounds like a plan!02:27
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paweltopyli: this muine wants mono. :/02:28
DanglyBitsanyone....how can i get the 32 bit versions of mozilla-firefox and flash to work together in breezy 64?02:29
topylipawel: that's all right, i'm using beagle and tomboy anyway02:29
atripathidoes usage of HT feature of Intel depend on the OS ?02:30
eythianatripathi, I think it kinda does. I think the OS has to be HT aware (or maybe it just has to treat it like SMP)02:31
rjordanatripathi, eythian, AFAIK it's an SMP thing.02:31
paweltopyli: with muine it still doesn't work. :>02:32
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topylipawel: the stream? muine doesn't support streams at all02:32
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topylipawel: if it did, it would be a killer02:33
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curious101hi again02:33
topylipawel: but the author doesn't want to support it02:33
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gohHelloo02:33
curious101is there a GUI dialer for GNOME?02:33
BockBilbohello again02:34
monstahhello.. :) i can't get higher resolution than 1024x768 on my screen... how do i fix this? =)02:34
gohGnome ppp02:34
paweltopyli: sad. :/02:34
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aftertafmonstah:  edit your xorg.conf file02:34
monstahaftertaf: where can i find that one?02:34
monstahi'm new to this :)02:34
curious101i'm having a hard time using that "pon" command02:34
JackTorrenceIs there a stable release of Breezy yet or is Hoary still the stable vers?02:34
aftertaf/etc/x11/xorg.conf02:34
NgJackTorrence: the stable release of breezy is scheduled for the 13th02:35
aftertafmonstah:  ^^^ edit it with sudo to gve you rights.....02:35
BockBilbosound-juicer crashes when i try to open the option dialog on it when logged as usual user (works as root). I think it has something to do with the config files of it. i get a bounch of errors of this kind:  (sound-juicer:12618): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_file_system_get_volume_for_path: assertion `path != NULL' failed02:35
aftertaf!X02:35
ubotuaftertaf: What?02:35
JackTorrence13th Oct?02:35
aftertaf!x02:35
ubotuaftertaf: Syntax error in line 102:35
NgJackTorrence: yes02:35
BockBilbolike some null values that should be there...02:35
curious101is gnome ppp like kppp?02:35
samu2Anyone else have trouble with firefox crashing sometimes when you open links that need to be downloaded or opened in an external program?02:35
topylipawel: banshee doesn't either, otherwise it's another piece of great mono code. like a rhythmbox that handles cd's, ipods, ripping, burning...02:36
monstahaftertaf: yeh =) thnx02:36
atripathiaftertaf.........see this is the solution. modify xorg.conf  to this.......02:36
atripathiSection "Monitor"02:36
atripathi        Identifier      "PHILIPS 107E"02:36
atripathi        Option          "DPMS"02:36
atripathi        HorizSync       30-7102:36
atripathi        VertRefresh     50-16002:36
atripathiEndSection02:36
aftertafmonstah:  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   (make a backup first)02:36
atripathithe Identifier is set by default so dont edit that02:36
gohcurious101: I'm not sure02:36
JackTorrencesamu2, yup I have that prob with firefox02:36
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atripathiyeah and do make a backup02:36
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samu2JackTorrence, are you running breezy yet?02:37
JackTorrencesamu2, nope Hoary02:37
gohcurious101: for me I connect by gg system>>adiministration>>networking02:37
JackTorrenceaftertaf, you having prob with display?02:37
samu2JackTorrence, ah me too. Maybe we'll be saved in a week then.02:37
curious101@goh: is that the one with the activate thing?02:38
Gwildor_Shin_Gouki, hello?02:38
eythiangoh, there is a 'modem monitor' panel applet, which is probably more convenient than the menus.02:38
monstahaftertaf: should i just change the "Modeline" ?02:38
atripathialso to know your monitor's strength execute this..     sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange02:38
gohcurious101: that's what I use02:38
goheythian: where's the applet?02:38
curious101@goh: where's the CONNECT button there?02:39
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eythianright-click on the panel at the top, go to 'add to panel', scroll down to modem monitor02:39
no-one-rusi have problems with my usb irda02:39
no-one-ruscan anybody help me02:39
atripathiwhich  is the best tool  for using pppoe efficiently ?02:40
atripathieverytime i need to plog to see the status02:40
paweltopyli: ok, I've got bmp and I'll be watching that bug.02:40
gohcurioys101: It's "activate" button02:40
atripathiand manually ping to check if the connection is on02:40
paweltopyli: I'm unable to fix, but will switch back, once it's done.02:40
aftertafatripathi:  rp-pppoe i found better that pppoe, pppoe seems a bit broken when setting up dsl-provider file02:41
curious101@goh: yeah, but after activating, what do you do next to connect?02:41
paulproteus|laptaftertaf: How do you pick which you use, pppoe vs. rp-pppoe?02:41
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atripathiaftertaf...I use ppoeconf to setup my pppoe. Then issue pon dsl-provider command to activate it02:41
atripathii installed pppoe separately which is a package in synaptic but it clashed with the configuration and didnt find a few lines compatible02:42
goheythian: It caused some problems when the connection was broken off, so I stop using it02:42
no-one-ruswhat i must do to make my irda active02:42
atripathii uninstalled it and still using pppoeconf  and pon dsl-provider etc02:42
aftertafpaulproteus|lapt:  i got the .deb from their website for rp-pppoe....02:43
eythiangoh: OK. I don't use a modem, so never tested it.02:43
curious101can you post a sample of the results of "pon"?02:43
kikinovakeythian: I looked around a bit, and found the problem. ALSA is apparently configured for my onboard card. Now is there some way to manually configure ALSA (with Slackware this was feasible with 'alsaconf'), so I can select the correct card?02:43
no-one-rusHelp me02:43
no-one-rusANY RUS???02:43
aftertafmonstah:  i dont actually know for that, im sorry..... google for resolution Xorg stuff and you'll find what you need to put in there...02:43
topylipawel: yes, lacking a fix, we use workarounds :(02:43
aftertaf!ru02:43
ubotuaftertaf: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about02:43
eythiankikinovak, hah, I had exactly the same problem. My solution was to turn off the on-board card.02:43
DanglyBitsanyone....how can i get the 32 bit versions of mozilla-firefox and flash to work together in breezy 64?02:43
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epic___kikinovak, have you tried turning the onboard card off in the BIOS?02:44
gohcurious101: U can't tell. U need to right click on panel, add panel and add network nonitor02:44
kikinovakeythian: er... how would I do that? (I'm a Slackware veteran, where _everything_ had to be worked out by hand... now this automatic stuff confuses me a bit:oD)02:44
intelikeyk  anyone know where apt keeps its information on cd drives (mount point in particular) ?02:45
curious101ok, thanks goh02:45
eythiankikinovak, I turned it off in the BIOS. I'd like to be able to have it on tho, I use the onboard for VoiP and the PCI for music.02:45
kikinovakintelikey: yeah... in /etc/apt/sources.list02:45
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intelikeykikinovak nope not there.02:45
eythianWhen I used Debian I had to manually switch them around each boot.02:45
kikinovakintelikey: apt-cdrom add?02:45
curious101i'm downloading gnome-ppp and gnome-dial to see if they fit my needs02:45
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nadrojis there a way to enable window shadowing in ubuntu?02:45
intelikeydone tried that too kikinovak02:46
gohHow do I set sypnatic such that it will look 4 my Hoary cd in my cdrw instead of my cdrom?02:46
kikinovakeythian: and no way to configure alsa manually?02:46
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kikinovakeythian: I'll check that out _now_ ... see ya02:46
intelikeyit adds the disk just fine and then tries the old mount point kikinovak02:46
eythiankikinovak, in Debian there was alsaconf, I don't know if that's in Ubuntu or not02:46
anivairgoh: you can always just temporarily alias cdrom02:46
kikinovakintelikey: sec02:47
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gohanivair: Hmmm... how do i do that?02:47
intelikeyeythian yes alsaconf is ub standard also02:47
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kikinovakintelikey: you're right... it's not in sources.list02:47
intelikeyi know.02:47
Kris_klmao the AI in HL2 on cedega is speeded up just a bit ? Also when coming out of hl2 the res on my desktop is messed02:47
anivairgoh: well, i'd copy cdrom to cdrom_backup and then make cdrom a symbolic link to cdrw (assuming that cdrw exists)02:47
curious101gnome-ppp is like kppp02:48
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misieqhi there!02:48
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curious101is it safe to mount my ntfs partitions and have write access from Ubuntu?02:49
misieqhow do i do mouse right click on mac running ubuntu live??02:49
no-one-rusHelp me with irda02:49
no-one-rus!!!02:49
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me02:49
Hobbsee!irda02:49
Skid!irda02:49
ubotuHobbsee: What?02:49
Skidheh02:49
Hobbseelol02:49
no-one-rus!irda02:49
no-one-rus;;;;;02:50
Skid!infrared02:50
ubotuSkid: Bugger all, i dunno02:50
Skid!infra red02:50
ubotuWish i knew, Skid02:50
Skidhm02:50
Skid!google02:50
ubotuNot a clue, Skid02:50
Skidheh02:50
Seveascurious101, no02:50
Seveasit's not even possible02:50
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SkidI thought beta writing was in 2.6 ?02:50
Skid(obv if you want to destroy your ntfs partition)02:50
Seveasyou can overwrite an existing file with sometghin gof the exact same length02:51
Seveasin other words: useless02:51
curious101oh, so ubuntu guide tells us to mount but with read only access?02:51
Chousukeyes.02:51
Seveasubuntuguide sucks02:51
Chousukeyou could use the captive drivers.02:51
Seveas!tell curious101 about ubuntuguide02:51
Seveas!tell Chousuke about captive02:52
Chousukebut they're non-free, non-native and in general not really recommended.02:52
nadrojis there a way to enable window shadowing in ubuntu?02:52
Skidmmm can you do tell me ?02:52
curious101!faq02:52
ubotuit has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/02:52
no-one-rusirda..................02:52
Skid!tell me about ubuntuguide02:52
Skidooh cool02:52
Skid:)02:52
no-one-rus!fuk02:52
ubotuI don't know, no-one-rus02:52
curious101hehehe, thanks all02:52
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[LethAL] !tell nadroj about composite02:52
no-one-rus!tell me about irda02:53
misieqhow do i do mouse right click on mac running ubuntu live??02:53
no-one-russtupid02:53
Skidhmm !faq in PM to the bot, doesn't work?02:53
Seveasno-one-rus, language...02:53
no-one-rusrus02:53
SeveasSkid, in pm you don't need the !02:53
intelikeysorry, i got bumped off line.02:53
Skidahh, ok cheers02:53
Skidright time for a malteaser smoothie :p02:53
nadrojthanks LethAL02:53
[LethAL] np02:53
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no-one-ruskill me by irda02:54
no-one-rus!kill me by irda02:54
ubotuno-one-rus: Are you on ritalin?02:54
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[LethAL] LOL02:54
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intelikeydid anyone find a way to change cd mount points ?      or is it hard coded into apt as /cdrom ???02:54
Seveasno-one-rus, if you don't stop playing with the bot you will be banned02:54
Seveasintelikey, /etc/fstab02:55
no-one-russo tell me about irda in ubuntu02:55
no-one-rusplz02:55
intelikeySeveas yes....   duh   but apt still looks in /cdrom02:55
FlangeRQ: What do the ubuntu community consider the best password manager at the moment?02:55
Nga brain ;)02:55
[LethAL] intelikey, make /cdrom a symlink02:56
SeveasFlangeR, revelation02:56
Seveasintelikey, which apt command?02:56
epic___goh,   have you tried to add the cd in the dvd drive through symantec?02:56
no-one-rus  02:56
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intelikeySeveas apt-setup    apt-get .....02:56
eythianno-one-rus, I don't think many people know about irda...I haven't used it for a while myself.02:57
Seveasman apt.conf has some info...02:57
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brosioanyone known a guide to set up cups on ubuntu ?02:58
w-muteHi, folks. Anybody else experiencing problems with the font in gnucash?02:58
Seveasbrosio, system -> admin -> printing02:58
intelikeySeveas ok.    i'll give that a look.    can't do it from here though.    thanks.02:59
Skidhm this edubuntu - be good for a net cafe?03:00
Skidi seem to remember some chap askin aobut it a few days ago03:00
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SeveasSkid, /join #edubutu03:00
Seveasthey can give much better info03:00
Seveas#edubuntu i mean03:01
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Skidah, wasn't for me - just to refer to him when (if) he comes back in :)03:01
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Seveaswell, refer him to #edubuntu then ;)03:01
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Kamping_Kaiserdoes anyone know which package the 'lockfile' program is in? i cant find it on one of my boxes03:02
Hendricany suggestions for installing ubuntu on a DELL Optiplex GX1... with 13GB HD, and stalls during partitioner.03:03
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rjordanKamping_Kaiser, I googled and found that it's in the base dist AFAICT03:04
Kamping_Kaiserhm. ok. thanks03:04
pawelbrb03:04
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[LethAL] ubotu, no, explore2fs is to get read/write access to your Linux ext2/3 partitions from windows, see http://www.fs-driver.org/03:06
ubotu[LethAL] : okay03:06
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g14Does anyone know how well abiword supports MS Office exporting?03:07
Kamping_Kaiseriirc not well03:07
g14I have my little sister running hoary and she loves it. However, OO.o is a beast to startup on her slow machine and she doesn't like it.03:07
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elvstoneshort question: breezy == 5.10?03:09
Hobbseeelvstone: yes03:09
mvirkkilelvstone: yes03:09
elvstonesweet.03:09
elvstonethx.03:09
eythianhmm. There's an annoying UI bug in gnome.03:09
Amaranthrelease in 7 days, hopefully03:09
Amarantheythian: what's what?03:09
Hobbseeg14: the late betas and the RC of open office 2 are considerably faster than the originals03:09
g14Hobbsee: I am using the latest from www.openoffice.org03:10
elvstonenice, i'm starting up a book shop and ordered 20 CDs to have there for people to take. i'll be opening the shop on 15 November.03:10
eythianOn the panel at the top, you can have the mouse hard against the top and acess the menus and buttons fine, but not the system tray icons. They have a 1px border.03:10
Hobbseeg14: ah ok, i didnt think it took that long to open OOo 203:10
mvirkkileythian: Works for me03:11
aftertafg14:  there is KWord too, not bad03:11
[LethAL] eythian, so they do...03:11
g14heh, gnome only03:11
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Amarantheythian: it "snatches defeat from the jaws of victory"03:11
eythianit's like having 90% of Fitt's law :)03:11
eythianyeah03:11
g14I script everything using gconf03:11
mvirkkileythian: No wait it doesn't. Yeah, I'd say it's a bug.03:11
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eythianOK. What would I file it against?03:12
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eythiangnome-panel?03:12
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dravinehello everyone03:12
dravineis there an up to date list of the ubuntu repositories?03:12
Seveas!repos03:13
ubotuI guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:13
dravinethe hoary-extras seems to have vanished on me03:13
Seveasah crap03:13
Seveas!sources03:13
ubotusources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)03:13
Hobbseethey've changed03:13
dravineI know03:13
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dravinethey've done so 2 or 3 times in the last month03:13
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Skidhow do you actually become a mirror?03:13
Amaranthi think hoary-extras is gone03:13
Seveas!no repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)03:13
ubotuokay, Seveas03:13
SeveasAmaranth, really>03:13
Seveasi though it was just the unofficial backports03:14
Hobbseehoary-extras still worked, as of this afternoon - wasnt coming up with a 404 error03:14
Amaranththe unofficial backports is gone, i doubt anyone wants to mirror just the illegal stuff03:14
Hobbseeie a few hours ago03:14
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dravinehttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-extras/03:14
SeveasAmaranth, the -extras has more than just the illegal stuff03:14
dravinethat's the url I had before for the extras03:14
Seveasdravine, that has NEVER been the url for hoary-extras03:15
dravinewas it at mirrormax before?03:15
Skidillegal stuff? :o03:15
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asbjxrnWhat packages do I need to get a working gcc installation?03:17
eythian!be03:17
ubotusudo apt-get install build-essential03:17
dravinebuild-essential03:17
Skidbuild-essential has all what you'd need03:17
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asbjxrnthanks.03:17
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eythian*sigh* reportbug has a bug.03:18
dravinewhat's the debian-marillat repos have in it?03:18
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kikinovakeythian: you still there?03:19
kikinovakeythian: you still there?03:19
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eythiankikinovak, yeah03:19
kikinovakeythian: I fiddled around a bit, and I have an idea for the two soundcards...03:19
Kamping_Kaiserany idea where to look on a server for these lines (3 line flood)03:20
eythianoh?03:20
Kamping_Kaiser# RSYNC_DIR is the directory given in the "Packages over rsync:" line of03:20
Kamping_Kaiser# the mirrors file for the site you have chosen to mirror.03:20
Kamping_Kaiser# (mandatory)03:20
kikinovakeythian: the idea is write a rule for UDEV so the correct soundcard gets the first device name03:20
eythianah.03:20
eythiankikinovak, let me know if you figure out the rule :) udev is still black magic to me03:20
kikinovakeythian: only I don't know what device nodes are for soundcard...03:20
kikinovakeythian: well I know udev well03:20
kikinovakeythian: a look in /dev, there is dsp and dsp103:21
kikinovakeythian: and then we have several nodes in /dev/snd03:21
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kikinovakeythian: which one is the right one?03:21
kikinovakeythian: what I want to say: which node is supposed to be the default sound device here?03:22
kikinovakeythian: back in 1 min03:22
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eythianhmm. Tricky.03:22
eythianI think you'd have to experiment to work it out.03:23
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eythianor look in  /proc/asound/cards, that might help03:23
Frafrahi all03:23
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Frafrai must convert a ogg into a mp3 on breezy for amd6403:23
Frafrawho can help me?03:23
imc_Hey, under breezy, which repository do I need for sun-j2re1.5?03:23
eythianFrafra, why would you do that?03:24
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Frafraeythian: i must put the file on my... I don't know the english for it, but it's something likes ipod03:25
kikinovakeythian: stay around... I look for the solution and I'll let you know when something comes up03:25
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eythianFrafra, ahh, OK.03:25
imc_Hey, under breezy, which repository do I need for sun-j2re1.5?03:25
eythiankikinovak, I'm going to bed soon. If I remember, I'll ask when I next see you online.03:26
ccookeimc: It's not in any due to license restrictions, but it is installable03:26
imc_um...03:26
[LethAL] !tell imc_ about javadeb03:26
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[LethAL] :-)03:26
ccooke[LethAL] : damn, beat me to it :-)03:27
Frafrawho can telp me?03:27
imc_Thanks LethAL and ccooke; former for doing it and latter for thinking of it :)03:27
[LethAL] Hehe03:27
[LethAL] Frafra, at least one of us will03:27
Myrttilet me dish out my crystal ball03:27
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asbjxrnHas anyone compiled openmotif or know where I can get a precompiled package for it?03:28
Fraframm... shoul I compile lame for amd64?03:29
ccookeFrafra: simplest way is probably to install lame (which is an mp3 encoder)03:29
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ccookeFrafra: lame is installable via apt03:29
Frafraccooke: apt-get doesn't found it03:29
eythianFrafra, you could look at mp32ogg, see how it works and reverse the logic.03:29
ccookeFrafra: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories?03:29
Frafraccooke: yes03:29
ccookeFrafra: lame is in multiverse.03:30
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Frafraah, thanks03:30
eythianok, bedtime03:30
Frafrai haven't multiverse, only universe :)03:30
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nrbqhowdy03:31
Frafra!extrarepository03:31
nrbqDoes anyone here use sweep? (successfully)03:31
ubotuFrafra: Bugger all, i dunno03:31
ccookeFrafra: okay. do an apt-get update03:31
Frafra!multiverse03:31
ubotuask me about !repositories03:31
Frafra!repositories03:31
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))03:31
Frafrathanks a lot03:31
nrbqOr does anyone use Ardour?03:31
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ccookeFrafra: you'll have oggdec installed.03:32
occySeveas, wtf?03:32
occySeveas, a simple message would do you don't have to kick people out of the channel.  Play nice.03:33
kikinovakQuestion for all the cracks here. I have two sound cards here, one onboard, one PCI, respectively card0 and card1 in /proc/asound/cards. Big question: how do I find out which sound device each one is corresponding to?03:33
nrbqCan anyone suggest why Audacity works fine, but Sweep just produces a hiss?03:33
occySeveas, I didn't add "spam"  I added some tips and tricks.03:33
kikinovaknrbq because sweep works with oss by default, AFAIK03:34
kikinovaknrbq: compiled it on my slack, and it gave me a hard time until I grasped OSS is default.03:34
kikinovaknrbq: check out the cvs version... gtk2 ... nice!03:35
Frafracan I compile a program for windows from breezy for amd64?03:37
[LethAL] !info mingw3203:38
ubotumingw32: (Minimalist GNU win32 (cross) compiler), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.2.20040916.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 9925 kB, Installed size: 43536 kB03:38
[LethAL] Frafra, ^^03:38
Frafrathanks :)03:38
nrbqkikinovak, I honestly don't understand what that means. Is oss an audio driver?03:38
[LethAL] Frafra, I've never used it though03:38
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nrbqI just noticed that both claim to be using /dev/dsp, but one works and the other doesn't03:39
Zeke1hi, every tiem i restart ubuntu i have to manually set my eth1 to up and reset pppoeconf...how do i get it to do it automatically? can anyone help me?03:39
Seveasoccy, you added a link to your personal site. That is spam03:39
monstahhowto install fonts without having to do "xset +fp dir/" everytime you want to use them?03:40
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occySeveas, I've never done anything in the past, I don't have a history, I simply did not know.  A warning would have sufficed.03:41
Seveasoccy, this was a warning...03:42
occySeveas, I won't use the bot again you can be asured of that.03:42
occySeveas, Someone else told me I could play with it in #debian-bots  I guess that person was wrong.03:42
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occySeveas, thanks for the kind and  helpful attitude.03:42
Seveasyou can use/play with it, but adding spam is something you should not do03:42
Seveasjust as your attitude now03:43
occySeveas, adding tips and tricks I didn't know was spam.03:43
occySeveas, Yes, I'm kinda pissed03:43
occyYou don't kick people for that.03:43
occyI wasn't abusive in the channel, I went where I was supposed to.03:43
Seveasyes, spammers are kicked03:43
occyI didn't spam the channel.03:43
aftertaftalk via keyboard leads to getting worked up too much over something better let go.03:43
Seveasspamminf the bot is just as bad03:43
occyanyway, this subject is OT03:43
aftertafif you want to continue, go offtopic.....03:44
occySeveas, get off your high horse03:44
Seveasstop attacking people personally..03:44
Myrttihow about you two move to /msg?03:44
nrbqkikinovak, can you give me more advice on oss? I don't understand what that is - is that an audio driver?03:45
naliothmonstah: drop any ttf font you like into your ~/.fonts directory (you may have to create it)03:45
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sambagirltest'03:48
g14OSS == Open Sound System. It is a deprecated sound system  succeeded by ALSA03:48
g14Alsa was developed by SUSE and is now in the kernel03:49
Frafrai've installed lame03:49
Frafrawhen i play the .mp3 file03:49
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Frafrai heard only some rumors, for 2 second (the .ogg file is 10 sec.)03:50
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anivairfor the record, I prefer OSS to ALSA.  Much less trouble03:50
naliothsambagirl: bonita03:50
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g14technically, alsa is superior. oss still has it's place as also doesn't do multiple outputs very well. That is why a sound daemon like esd or arts is needed unfortunately03:51
nrbqis anyone able to advise on how I can get Sweep working?03:51
nrbqAudacity plays fine from /dev/dsp, but Sweep just produces a hiss03:51
Frafragood, lame don't convert from ogg, but from wav :D03:51
anivairtechnically, you're right.  but in practice ALSA never works right on my ubuntu system and OSS does.03:52
anivairor at least that's the case with xmms03:52
nrbqanivair, what can you tell me about oss? Is that a sound driver?03:52
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g14Thats because xmms is old. Use beep-media-player, much much better03:52
bloodnikIs missing graphics in breezy a known?03:52
g14the lead dev of bmp tried to port xmms to gtk2 and the xmms devs refused03:53
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anivairbeep is fine, but doesn't play well with streamtuner, which is one of my favorite apps ever03:53
Seveasbloodnik, graphics of what?03:53
g14Kind of like xfree86 vs x.org. the x.org authors refused innovation so the project forked into a much better03:53
bloodnikMy show desktop and wastebasket graphics are red-x things03:53
anivairnrbq: oss is not a driver, it's a service.  it's what makes sound go in older linux systems (and has, as stated, been replaced by ALSA, though we are currently debating the goodness of alsa in a fanboyish way)03:54
g14bloodnik: What theme are you using?03:54
topylinrbq: oss is the open sound system, used to be standard on linuxen, but is now in the process of being obsoleted by alsa03:54
anivairhuh . . . I guess he didn't want to hear my answer03:54
topylihrmpf03:54
bloodnikg14: One that worked before I upgraded03:54
anivairsome peopel are so impatient03:54
anivairand can't google03:54
bloodnikI mixed and matched theme aspects03:54
Seveashmm, that might be due to a gnome issue I've seen before, can you post a screenshot of your system at the pastebin please03:54
g14bloodnik: you didn't answer my question :)03:55
g14bloodnik: ok, thats the problem. What icon theme is it?03:55
anivairg14: I think he means that he is using a heavily modified version of a theme, so it's basically his own03:55
bloodnikClearlooks03:55
ghbI would like to change some behaviour of when I close the lid. I03:56
g14bloodnik: thats odd, I use clearlooks window and widget theme with redhat's bluecurve icons on my breezy box. I don't have any problems03:56
bloodnik...03:56
bloodnikI just changed to Human and they came back, and Clearlooks vanished.03:56
bloodnikVanished from the list _03:57
g14that really sucks03:57
bloodnikOK well it was that. Never occurred to me. Cheers03:57
zeroverseso beep media player > xmms?03:57
g14correct03:57
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topylioh no, not another kernel update03:57
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ghbHey. How do I change the behaviour of when I close the lid on my laptop? The lid.sh and libtn are empty... =(03:57
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g14zeroverse:  the lead dev of beep wanted to improve xmms but the xmms devs argued with him and were not helpful. They forced him to fork03:58
Seveaszeroverse, yeah03:58
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g14Plus, beep uses gtk2 so it integrates soooo much better with the rest of gnome on an ubuntu system03:58
dodgyvilleHi. Does anyone know a good How-To for upgrading from hoary to breezy?03:58
anivairI wonder if I can make beep work with streamtuner . . . if so that would solve all my problems03:58
topylig14: who dared he suggest improvements on xmms? it is the same forever and ever :)03:59
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bloodnikHmm... even Human has a missing graphic. It's the "Go to computer location" button in Nautilus03:59
g14dodgyville: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:59
dodgyvilleapt-get keeps giving me unknown error executing gpgv errors04:00
g14dodgyville: change hoary to breezy everywhere and then save it04:00
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Ubunti_Kihere? :) ok04:00
naliothUbunti_Ki: welcome04:00
g14dodgyville: then do: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade04:00
naliothUbunti_Ki: remember to set up your client so you dont end up in -unregged any more04:01
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Ubunti_KiI know its a risk, but how do I allow Root to Log-in at start up Screen?04:01
dodgyvillegl4: Thanks, but apt-get update gives me "unknown error executing gpgv" errors.04:01
zeroversecool, yeah i like beep better already04:01
g14no no no. root is evil04:01
Ubunti_Kiset up my client? How nalioth?04:01
topyliUbunti_Ki: if you want to be root, you should know how to do it .)04:02
Ubunti_KiAnyone?04:02
g14dodgyville: something is the matter with the signature of the packages you get? Maybe you need to reinstall it04:02
anivairHa!  I CAN make streamtuner with with beep.04:02
anivairI'll get on that right now04:02
naliothUbunti_Ki: i told you in -unregged04:03
anivairassuming beep will take the %q variable04:03
thoreauputicanivair: you can make streamtuner use any player actually04:03
anivairyeah, I wasn't so sure.  I just got it a while ago (weeks).  haven't played with it too much yet04:03
anivairI just listed to frensh pop music04:03
thoreauputicanivair: I use it with beep no problems04:03
anivairfrench, even04:03
g14dodgyville: apt-get install --reinstall gpgv04:03
topylithoreauputic: except rhythmbox. tis b0rken :(04:03
anivaircool, thanks04:03
thoreauputictopyli: ah04:03
zeroverseso xmms skins will work with beep eh?04:03
thoreauputiczeroverse: yup04:04
thoreauputicso will winamp skins04:04
thoreauputicwell, winamp 2 skins anyway04:04
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Ubunti_KiI dont know what you mean nalioth. Why should I end up in unregged if I just regged myself?04:05
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spiralhi04:06
Ubunti_Kihi04:06
naliothUbunti_Ki: your client can identify to services on joining the network. if you have your password in the "nickserv" field in your server dialog, it can wait too long to identify you and you'll end up in -unregged04:06
Ubunti_KiOk04:06
Seveasehrm04:06
SeveasUbunti_Ki, the *server password*, not the *nickserv password*04:06
naliothUbunti_Ki: do put your password in the "server password" field, and you'll always end up in here04:06
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vothis it pos. to run xfce under ubuntu04:07
Whistlervoth yep04:07
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Seveasvoth, apt-get install xfce404:07
Seveasehrm wrong04:08
Ubunti_Kinalioth, i did put now my passwd in there, but theres "connect command" what should i write in there?04:08
Seveasvoth, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop04:08
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SeveasUbunti_Ki, nothing :)04:08
vothok04:08
[LethAL] We have xubuntu now? O.O04:08
Ubunti_Kiok, so its done now? nothing more to be fixed?04:08
SeveasUbunti_Ki, yup04:08
Ubunti_Kithankz04:08
Frafraxubuntu?04:09
holycowwhat is the name of the new wireless applet in breezy? doesn't seem to be installed by default04:09
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nrbqhello04:09
[LethAL] Frafra, Ubuntu with the xfce environmentment I'd assume04:09
dodgyvillegl4: it won't let me reinstall, it says I need to run apt-get update first :( http://au.archive.ubuntu.com is my server, could this be the problem?04:09
nrbqcan anyone help me on installing Ardour?04:09
Frafra[LethAL] : yes, but this name it's new for me :D xubuntu... lol :D04:10
zeroverseany tips on getting azureus to not take up over 400MB of memory?04:10
Ubunti_KiI think that in 5.04 you could change  grub and allow root login in some menu, but cant find those in 5.10 . am I right?04:10
[LethAL] Frafra, new for me too04:10
nrbqapt-get says it doesn't know anything about it (although the Ardour page explicitly listed apt-get install arour)04:10
nrbqardour, I mean04:10
SeveasUbunti_Ki, it's in the config of gdm04:10
thoreauputic!info ardour04:10
Seveas!info ardour04:10
Seveasdang04:10
Ubunti_KiUnder?04:10
Whistleris it worth to install antivirus software?04:10
thoreauputicno such package04:11
Seveas!info ardour breezy04:11
sproingiewhy does ubuntu-minimal depend on jfsutils when most people don't even run jfs?04:11
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nrbqSeveas, thanks, but I think it's going to be a mean one. :)04:11
Ubunti_Kiwhich menu Seveas?04:11
Seveasno menu04:11
thoreauputic!info ardour-gtk04:11
ubotuardour-gtk: (digital audio workstation (graphical gtk interface)), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9beta22-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1585 kB, Installed size: 5688 kB04:11
nrbqIf I could get Sweep working I'd be at least half way to where I need to be04:11
thoreauputic:)04:11
Ubunti_KiBut there where a menu before, do you know some in 5.10?04:12
nrbqah, so that's how it has to be referenced!04:12
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Seveasif you need a menu for that, I don't believe you're a unix consultant04:12
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thoreauputicnrbq: when in doubt, apt-cache search <package>04:12
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nrbqthoreauputic, good tip - thanks, I'll try to remember that04:13
thoreauputicnrbq: :)04:13
nrbqthanks, thoreauputic!04:13
nrbqIt's installed! :)04:13
thoreauputicnrbq: no worries :)04:13
nrbqNow, I just need to figure out how to start JACK and I'll be on my way04:14
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thoreauputicnrbq: now the fun begins - do you have jackd installed?04:14
nrbqjackd -D didn't work04:14
naliothnrbq: call him04:14
Ubunti_KiIf I need a menu, dont need it. But need to remember Seveas.04:14
nrbqyeah, it seems to be04:14
nrbqnalioth, :)04:14
nrbqperhaps this is part of my Sweep problem04:14
nrbqdunno04:14
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thoreauputicnrbq: sweep doesn't need jack04:15
thoreauputicnrbq: it might be an esd problem though04:15
[LethAL] languag- oh, wait :P04:15
Ubunti_Kifurther more, no hazzle but i was Consult at SUN, not at Ubuntu.04:15
nrbqthoreauputic, then I think I'm screwed on many levels. :)04:15
nrbqI don't know anything about sound under Linux04:16
thoreauputicnrbq: I never worked jack out here - but I kind of gave up to be honest: I had it working with rosegarden4 though04:16
Ubunti_KiSometimes its childis to have to explain that im doing other stuff in life than only linux. And sometimes I forget thing. So I can ask you guys who competes whos the best in Linux. LOL04:16
nrbqhmmm....what I'm aiming to do is get away from CoolEdit and cubase and just use Linux tools (if possibl)04:17
nrbqI've got a feeling it might be tough04:17
nrbqFor example, Audacity works fine - right from the start04:17
thoreauputicnrbq: ardour looks scary ;-)04:17
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nrbqSays it's using /dev/dsp for output - but so is Sweep and all I get there is a hiss04:17
nrbqYeah, it does look pretty heavy!04:17
nrbq:)04:17
Shin_Goukinrbq, hey04:18
Shin_Goukinrbq,  ur sound programm ok? did u find something usefull?04:18
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: it isn't a competition here - more a co-operation I'd say :)04:18
sproingieputting something down as childish ... then proceeding to punctuate one's sentence with "LOL"04:19
Ubunti_KiBut i have not got my answer, just against my quest04:19
Ubunti_KiI think you dont know my answer and thats why you play smart.04:19
zeroverseany web developers here?  What is the most powerful editor for linux in your opinion? (I'm coming from Dreamweaver MX)04:19
wickedpuppyemacs04:19
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[LethAL] LOL04:19
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: time to get your l33t google skilz in action then ;-)04:19
zeroverseemacs good with php?04:20
nrbqShin_Gouki, hey! How's it going?04:20
Shin_Goukihi how do i install Firefox 1.5 Beta? via apt-get command?04:20
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tombshi ppl04:20
dbzdeathsproingie: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lol it is in the dictionary even... therefore it is the same as any other abbreviation... not childish04:20
[LethAL] zeroverse, nvu is quite nice as a WYSIWIG editor, emacs is text04:20
Ubunti_KiYes thoreauputic :)04:20
nrbqI'm getting there with the sound stuff04:20
nrbqthoreauputic's been helping me out. :)04:20
Shin_Goukinrbq,  are u composing? i mean writing music?04:20
sproingiedbzdeath: i don't think being in "the dictionary" makes it any less annoying04:20
nrbqWould like to get Sweep going, but having problems with output04:20
nrbqjust getting a hiss04:20
[LethAL] !tell zeroverse about nvu04:20
wickedpuppy[LethAL] , xemacs comes with extension for php04:20
dbzdeathsproingie: annoying != childish04:20
nrbqShin_Gouki, yeah, trying to04:20
[LethAL] wickedpuppy, fair dos then :P04:21
thoreauputicdbzdeath: #ubuntu-offtopic :)04:21
nrbqmy wife works for a small software company (kid's education stuff) and I write short pieces of intro music sometimes04:21
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nrbqI'd like to get away from CoolEdit and Cubase if I can, but may not be possible04:21
sproingieit's times like that when i can't seriously entertain having any other editor than emacs04:21
jjgodHi, I'm wondering if it is possible to add emacs-snapshot into ubuntu's package list.04:21
Kamping_Kaiserwhats broken if a box can resolv ip addresses but not transfer data with them?04:21
Shin_Goukinrbq,  it really buggs me , some time ago(6month) i read an article about excellent Linux sound software...but i dont remember the name :/04:22
Kamping_KaiserShin_Gouki: yeh, i even have the mag i read about it - somewhere04:22
zeroversesproingie, you know the apt-get name for emacs?04:22
thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: maybe someone did something evil with a pair of wire cutters :)04:22
nrbqwell, I've looked at a few now and they all look pretty good (sweep, muse, ardour)04:22
nrbqIt's just getting them to work! Hahaha!!!!04:22
Kamping_Kaiserthoreauputic: :) maybe, but this is comming down the same data pipe :)04:22
sproingiezeroverse: emacs21 or xemacs2104:23
Shin_Goukihi i look for an apt-get command to install firefox 1.5beta...anyone?04:23
sproingiezeroverse: my particular poison is xemacs, mostly for hysterical raisins (got a lot of xemacs specific code).  i recommend fsf emacs to start with04:23
nrbqwell, I should get back to work04:23
nrbqthoreauputic, Shin_Gouki, have a good one. Thanks again for your patient help04:24
nrbqPeace04:24
thoreauputicShin_Gouki: you can't - at lest not from ubuntu - why not just grab a binary?04:24
Shin_Goukinrbq,  np04:24
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Seveasjjgod, probably not04:24
Shin_Gouki thoreauputic, i'm just with it!04:24
Kamping_Kaisergrr. bloody pc. only one on the network with the problem04:24
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thoreauputicShin_Gouki: I insatlled a binary in my home dir to test it out - quite quick and improved04:25
dodgyvillegl4: I found the problem. The clock on my laptop had reset to 1970, so the keys were set in the future04:25
Shin_Gouki thoreauputic,  thats what i want , i dont want to overwrite my old install04:25
Shin_Gouki197004:26
Shin_GoukiLOL04:26
Ubunti_KiFor those who want to allow root login to gnome, cannot do it in 5.10, it was in 5.04. Just info for you.04:26
thoreauputicShin_Gouki: not a problem - just run it from the install dir04:26
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: logging into gnome as root is silly anyway04:26
SeveasUbunti_Ki, you can do it just as in 5.04 it's just not recommended and lots of people (like me) simply deny to provide the detailed instructions on how to do that..04:27
dodgyvilleThanks for your help.04:27
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Kamping_Kaisersheesh. loud thunder outside04:28
Kamping_Kaiser*expects to be suddenly plunged into darnkness and silence*04:28
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thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: no, that's the BSA helicopters coming to audit your network ;)04:28
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Kamping_Kaiser:P now fix it :P04:29
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Kamping_Kaiserroot@aptProxy:/home/ubuntu# ping google.com04:29
Kamping_KaiserPING google.com (216.239.57.99) 56(84) bytes of data.04:29
Kamping_Kaiser18 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 16997ms04:29
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Kamping_Kaiser:( no love from that box04:29
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holycowanyone know the name of the wifi applet that is supposed to be uber cool and new in breezy for selecting wireless networks?04:29
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Kamping_Kaiserhi holycow, long time no see04:30
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holycowoi kaiser :)04:30
Skidgtkwifi?04:30
Kamping_Kaiser:)04:30
Skidits shite imo, if that's what you mean04:30
holycowSkid, i saw that but i don't think thats what they were working on ... i think this one is written by redhat04:30
sproingienetworkmanager?04:31
sproingiei dont think that specifically does wifi selection tho04:31
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Kamping_Kaisercant ping by IP either :( something is rooted well04:31
mylastmorning!smeg04:31
ubotuI guess smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.04:31
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holycowno this is a new applet specifically designed for wireless network selecction by redhat04:31
holycowi remember talk about ubuntu having it included04:31
holycowbreezy rather04:31
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sproingiegot me a wireless AP, but wifi on a desktop is kinda pointless :)04:32
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Kamping_Kaiserheh.04:32
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Ubunti_KiI know why its not recommended, and its for safety measures. Its too powerful to use ROOT. But some things are just nice to know. I did find a way to do this. Thanks anyway.04:32
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sproingiei'm probably well within some free hotspot since i live in downtown san francisco04:32
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naliothUbunti_Ki: hopefully gnome didnt trash all your permissions04:33
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sproingiei'm also 28 floors up, so i'm probably *above* any hotspot04:33
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Kamping_Kaiserlol sproingie04:33
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Kamping_Kaiserthats high :O04:33
Ghoathow do you get a program to start with root priveledges every time?04:33
antisocialboriscan anyone reccomend a decent antivirus for me?04:33
Kamping_KaiserGhoat: what app?04:33
Skidantisocialboris: clamav04:33
Kamping_Kaiserantisocialboris: try clamav04:33
naliothantisocialboris: AV are unnecessary in linux04:33
sproingieantisocialboris: clamav comes highly recommended.  as you can see by now04:33
GhoatKamping:firestarter04:33
antisocialborisyeah, but my uni netork admin are hassling me04:34
Skidnot in all cases, nalioth :)04:34
thoreauputicGhoat: you don't need to run it unless you are configuring04:34
Kamping_KaiserGhoat: oh, right. i thought it set the config, then didnt need to be run?04:34
danstHi, i am having problems with firestarter: It does not get loaded automatically after reboot...I just installed it from synaptic so it should work should'nt it?04:34
naliothSkid: if you want to benefit your windows using associates, AV are great04:34
Ubunti_KiNo i didnt because I did not log in as a ROOT04:34
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sproingieantisocialboris: so tell 'em you already have it.  if they're too clueless to know that your OS has zero viruses in the wild, they won't know how to audit your system for it04:34
thoreauputicGhoat: see /etc/init.d/firestarter - it runs on boot04:35
Kamping_Kaiserdanst: you run it to configre,then not again04:35
naliothdanst: it doesnt have to load. the configuration it writes is saved to the system04:35
SkidI don't run windows on any pc/laptop here..04:35
antisocialborisyeah, maybe04:35
Ghoatthor:ok thanks, I'll look at it04:35
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sproingieAV is all right for a mail server to keep the spool size down.  most folks already know their options if they're running a server tho04:35
ibuntuis anyone awake here?04:35
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thoreauputicGhoat: it's just a front end to iptables04:35
Kamping_Kaiseribuntu: no, htey all talk in their sleep04:35
naliothibuntu: no we're all in the bahamas04:35
ibuntulol04:35
Kamping_Kaiserlol nalioth04:35
sproingiethere's some automated rootkits for linux, those could qualify as worms04:36
g14nalioth: why was I kicked from #ubuntu-unregged just because I had to go to a meeting and hadn't identified myself?04:36
sproingiethey just dont spread as easily since linux isn't a monoculture04:36
g14sproingie: adore and lrk3 are the worst. They are a real pain to clean up04:37
danstbut if i test if it is running (from the webpage) with /etc/init.d/firestarter status it tells me that it is stopped... is this ok? and there is no process called firestarter running in the background and everytime I start firestarter it tells me it is switched off...is this the correct behaviour?04:37
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Skidsproingie: clueless users dont help04:37
sproingieg14: generally if a box has been rootkitted, it's time for reinstall04:37
thoreauputicdanst: don't fret04:37
naliothg14: were you being productive in -unregged?04:37
Kamping_Kaisersproingie: its the recomeneded practice isnt it?04:37
sproingieSkid: user education is ultimately pointless, the best thing you can do is limit the damage they can cause to everyone else04:37
Kamping_Kaiseri had it drilled inot me fairly hard ;)04:37
thoreauputicdanst: if you run a test you'll find it is doing the job04:37
g14nalioth: I went to a meeting. If you kick everyone from #ubuntu that isn't being productive, there will be a few hundred less people04:38
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g14naolith: I'm not angry, I just dont see the reason as that alienates many newbies04:38
naliothg14: i didnt kick anyone from #ubuntu. i kicked everyone from #ubuntu-unregged04:38
sproingieKamping_Kaiser: pretty much.  rootkits are pretty low level, and you *might* have it cleaned, but you'll lose sleep over the doubts04:39
Kamping_Kaisersproingie: i remember debian released a clean up guide, i almost memorised it at the time04:39
g14nalioth: I realize that. I dont see the reason for the doublestandard. A standard linux newb often is new to IRC04:39
Kamping_Kaiseri was failry paranoid at the time04:39
g14nalioth: That would piss me off and turn me to something else if I didn't know anybetter04:39
sproingieg14: the unregged channel is supposed to be a temporary place til people get regged.  ops sweep out the vagrants there from time to time so the true newbies don't get confused by chat04:39
naliothg14: then the new user belongs in #ubuntu, not -unregged04:39
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sproingieg14: stop taking it so personally04:40
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g14Sorry, my client died04:41
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sproingieKamping_Kaiser: standard practice where i work is to just image the system early on then just ghost it if there's major troubles.  takes less time to reinstall apps than to troubleshoot a system04:42
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Gordon84hallo spricht jemand deutsch??04:42
nalioth1de04:42
sproingie!de04:42
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe04:42
nalioth!de04:42
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sproingiesprachige is "speaking"?04:43
ProN00buhm, gnomebaker is strange, it seems to allow me only to burn one file after another ?04:43
ProN00byes, sproingie04:43
naliothsproingie: dont even go there (german is hard to learn)04:43
g14yes04:43
sproingienever did learn all his verb forms in german04:43
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:43
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ibuntugnomebaker sucks k3b is so much better but it's ugly like kde04:44
KartoffelI can speak "Deutsch" hehe04:44
sproingietwo years of german in high school, forgotten pretty much all of it04:44
KartoffelWas wollt Ihr denn wissen?04:44
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sproingieKartoffel: i remember that your name is "potato" though04:44
Kamping_Kaiseri should know wissen... i had a test that used it <12 monhts ago ;)04:44
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Gordon84und zwar hab ich  problem ich hab dieses men anwendungen auf dem panel und mchte kmail dazu tun, wie geht das?04:45
Kartoffelhehe, that is right sproingie04:45
Gordon84hab nmlich keine ahnung bin noob in linux04:45
Myrtti!de04:45
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe04:45
sproingiegerman's not that hard.  at least one can pronounce what they can't understand and ask someone around them.  i've got lots of russian co workers04:45
Kamping_Kaiserand its kmail issue, so tryy kde....04:45
sproingiewhen you can't understand the alphabet, it's really hard04:46
naliothsproingie: cyrillic is easy04:46
sproingieto say nothing of all the chinese i come across every day04:46
ProN00bdoes anyone know how to do transparent (non-clickable) output of text (logs and stuff) on the desktop ?04:46
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Kamping_Kaiserjapanese was not fun :) probably much like russian04:46
g14German is actually easy to learn. It is hard to pronounce04:46
Kamping_Kaiser(in ease of learning)04:46
ProN00bg14, wrong04:46
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sproingieg14: i find german exceedingly easy to pronounce.  its spelling is almost perfectly regular.  anyway, offtopic04:47
Myrtti"hard to pronounce"04:47
g14ProN00b apt-get install roottail04:47
naliothlanguage skills in #ubuntu-offtopic please04:47
thoreauputicProN00b: tricky in gnome because nautilus draws the desktop04:47
Myrttianyway, offtopic04:47
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KartoffelJust crazy that about 1 percent of the germans vote for the npd, their new nazi party, but it's out of topic04:47
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thoreauputicKartoffel: politics is *definitely* offtopic :)04:48
Kamping_Kaiser:D04:48
holycowokay so the app turns out to be called network-monitor04:48
holycowit is indeed created by redhat04:48
holycowBUT04:48
Kartoffelyes, sorry for my comment04:48
holycowhow do you use it? it appears to have no command associated with it, and it doesn't appear in the applet list?04:48
holycowweird04:48
g14OT: Steve Balmer making a complete idiot out of himself http://www.tarmo.fi/arc/monkeydance.mpeg04:48
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Shin_Goukithoreauputic, i downloaded the binary, i unziped untared it...what now?04:49
sproingieg14: this is hardly new04:49
Shin_Goukithoreauputic, i am talking about FF1.5b04:49
gxcHow to disable touchpad on laptop??04:49
g14sproingie: but not everyone has seen it04:49
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thoreauputicShin_Gouki: look for the firefox file in the directory and run it04:49
Kamping_Kaiserwonder if its easer to fix my network issue, or to set up port forwarding on my lappy for the box that wont work :(04:49
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holycowi mean network-manager even04:49
g14gxc is it a snyaptics touchpad?04:49
gxcg14: Yes:)04:50
thoreauputicShin_Gouki: it's a start script so you do ./firefox or something like that04:50
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thoreauputicShin_Gouki: or make a launcher if you prefer04:50
gxcI'm using 5.1004:50
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malverian[work] Any idea why my Gnome main menu would no longer contain a "Run" menu?04:51
Kamping_Kaisermalverian[work] : to make it less complicated04:51
thoreauputicmalverian[work] : removed in breezy I think - hit alt-F204:51
ProN00bhow can i make deb packages again ?04:51
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g14gxc: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=95604:51
malverian[work] That's horrible :-P04:51
thoreauputicProN00b: depends - quick and dirty way is with checkinstall04:51
Kamping_Kaisermalverian[work] : then add it to the pannel :)04:52
Shin_Goukithoreauputic, thx it started i guess i will ask u later what a launcher is & how to create it!04:52
malverian[work] Then I have more crap taking up my panel.04:52
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thoreauputicShin_Gouki: right click panel or desktop, create launcher, put in th epath to the FF executable... not hard04:53
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g14malverian[work] : You could always edit the menu xml files and add it yourself. But that would not be very fun04:53
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thoreauputicShin_Gouki: you can choose an icon too04:53
gxcg14: Can you send the url to me again? thanks04:53
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bpfi recently installed breezy on a new thinkpad x40 and I can't seem to get the network settings for multiple locations to work properly. it reverts to wired and DHCP every time I boot04:53
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thoreauputicmalverian[work] : why not jsut use alt-F2 ?04:53
malverian[work] I'm not following why they thought that was a good idea to begin with.. but now that I know.04:53
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bpfI also can't get the wireless to work, wondering if I have all the right packages installed. I was informed last week in here that it should work "out of the box" with breezy04:54
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g14gxc: I know it is in the hoary repositories. Im not on a breezy box to test04:54
malverian[work] thoreauputic, I do. But it's just silly not to have it there.04:54
g14gxc: apt-get install gsynaptics04:54
thoreauputicmalverian[work] : probably a gnome 2.12 thing04:54
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Kamping_Kaisermalverian[work] : your average user wont use it04:54
Kamping_Kaiserits not silly at all04:54
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gxcg14: thanks! i'll try it04:54
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Robihnoodhelp04:55
thoreauputicmalverian[work] : the gnome devs are gradually reducing all options - pretty soon you'll just have a "start here" icon *grin*04:55
dreamwavehello.  i'm playing around with shortcut keys in gnome.  i want to use the SUPER_L (windows) key as a modifier key.  currently, when defining shortcuts, the key acts like a regular key.  anyone know how to do this?04:55
g14malverian[work] : A user shouldn't need to use the command line. It is part of the CommandLineDisinegration breezy goal04:55
dreamwavebpf: what kind of card do you have?04:55
Robihnoodhow can i install on my pc04:55
[LethAL] !tell Robihnood about install04:55
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Robihnoodyes about install04:55
[LethAL] Robihnood, see the link ubotu sent you04:56
g14malverian[work]  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandLineDisintegration04:56
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GhoatWill Ubuntu run .RPM files?04:56
Kartoffelno04:56
[LethAL] !alien04:56
ubotualien is, like, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/04:56
WhistlerGhoat u can convert these with alien04:57
GhoatKArt:didn't think so04:57
thoreauputicGhoat: you would convert them with alien - but it's hit and miss04:57
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Ng*some* RPMs can be converted with alien04:57
ProN00bg14, can't find the roottail package04:57
Ngbut generally it's not worth the hassle imho04:57
bpfdreamwave, not sure - it is built-in. can I query that somehow?04:57
epic___ProN00b,   root-tail04:57
GhoatWhistler:Really?  I'll check it out, thanks...04:57
Ngand for goodness's sake don't try and alien something like libc ;)04:57
dreamwavebpf, what is the make of your motherboard/computer?04:57
bpfI _just_ got this a couple days ago and have only tried a few things04:57
bpfthinkpad x4004:57
g14Ng: amen :-)04:57
bpflappy04:57
thoreauputicProN00b: warning - roottail won't show on a standard gnome desktop04:58
g14ProN00b: he is right, you need to disable nautilus from controlling the desktop04:58
thoreauputic!info root-tail04:58
uboturoot-tail: (Displays select log files in the X root window), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.1+CVS-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 80 kB04:58
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Ubunti_Kiwhats a foobar?04:58
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Nglike a frobnik ;)04:58
Nga miscellaneous thing :)04:58
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ProN00byeah, root-tail does nothing04:59
g14thats really cool. Does ubotu have metadata on all of the packages in main or universe?04:59
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: foo and bar are traditional unix "placeholder" words04:59
vothonce xubuntu is installed do i simple log out then back in ?04:59
dreamwavebpf, http://www.chronox.de/x40_linux/linux_on_x40.html04:59
[LethAL] g14, yep04:59
ponthas anyone reported problems with the nvidia gl drivers and hoary ?04:59
dreamwavebpf, http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ibm.html04:59
dreamwavebpf, that second link has a desription of ubuntu 5.04 running on the x4004:59
Ngx40 should be fairly well supported, it's mostly intel kit. my flatmate has one, but he won't let me throw bunty at it ;(04:59
thoreauputicvoth: yes05:00
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holycowanyone know how to use network-manager to select wireless networks?  i don't seen an applet or a command associated with this tool05:00
holycow*grrrr*05:00
thoreauputicvoth: choose from the sessions menu in the login screen05:00
[LethAL] !info wifi-radar05:00
Ubunti_KiThanx05:00
bpfthanks for the links05:00
[LethAL] grrr05:00
dreamwavebpf, sure05:00
Whistleranybody have used gmailfs from apt-get?05:00
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NgWhistler: no and doing so violates the EULA of gmail as I understand it05:01
g14holycow: /usr/bin/nm-applet05:01
WhistlerNg i really do not care about it05:01
NgWhistler: you might care when they erase your files for violating the EULA ;)05:01
charlie5hello folks ... does anyone develop with the Ada programming language under Ubuntu ?05:01
rawiramdhannewb question: how do I remove dir. that are not empty05:01
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WhistlerNg anyway i want to try it out05:01
g14holycow: add that to the startup tab under gnome-session05:01
JDigitalumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy05:01
JDigitalumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy05:01
JDigitaleject: unmount of `/dev/hda' failed05:01
holycowaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:02
antisocialboriswhats the best media player?05:02
JDigitalAny ideas?05:02
thoreauputicrawiramdhan: rm -r05:02
holycowwicked! danke :)05:02
g14rawiramdhan: rm -r05:02
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charlie5... i was wondering if ubuntu has gcc 4.0.2 or later ?05:02
g14beep-media-player05:02
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thoreauputicantisocialboris: define "best"05:02
JDigitalmplayer05:02
holycowbrilliant :)05:02
Ngcharlie5: breezy is on 4.0.1 at the moment05:02
[LethAL] holycow, ignore ubotu, get wifi-radar anyway05:02
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grayman_Ng, i have 4.0.205:02
dreamwavegcc (GCC) 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)05:02
g14holycow: did it work? NM is one of those really cool toys to play with05:02
antisocialborisok, how about anything that'll actually let me watch movies etc05:02
JDigitalmplayer05:03
holycow[LethAL] , will do05:03
Nggrayman_: haha, good point. the package claims it's 4.0.1, but it's 4.0.2 :)05:03
antisocialboriswhere can i get mplayer?05:03
grayman_actually gstreamer is good and its installed by default with totem05:03
zeroversewhistler, if you really need massive online storage you can get about 10 gigs of hosting space for 10-20 bucks a month at some decent web hosts05:03
holycowg14, well at least the applet is running, i'm okay if it is not perfect as long as i know what it is i installed.  so far okay, now gotta make connection05:03
grayman_but you need to install codecs so it will work properly05:03
thoreauputic!tell antisocialboris about restricted05:03
JDigitalHow do I find out what's using my CD drive05:03
Whistlerzeroverse i just want to try gmailfs out thats it05:03
ProN00bso, how do i get root-tail to work ?05:03
JDigitalIt says the device is busy05:04
Whistleri do not need a lot of space or anything05:04
g14holycow: dpkg -L networkmanager | grep bin I think will do05:04
ruschiNow a bit deeper to gory details: X-keyboard -- I have a Sun Type6 USB Keyboard and ever since I upgraded to breezy I cant do the CTRL+ALT+Fn virtual Console Switch anymore.... if not logged in in X it switches perfectly05:04
NgJDigital: sudo fuser -m /media/cdrom0    - that will give you the process id(s) of whatever is using your cdrom05:04
thoreauputicProN00b: it draws on the root window, which gnome hides - it works in window managers like fluxbox05:04
JDigitalthanks :D05:04
grayman_antisocialboris, totem. use totem05:04
JDigitalAre you Ng from #amiga ?05:04
ruschiany Idea what this may be - It doesn't even work with a custom xmodmap05:05
grayman_antisocialboris, just search for gstreamer codecs with synaptic and install them05:05
NgJDigital: I used to lurk on a #amiga a bunch of years ago, yeah :)05:05
ProN00bthoreauputic, so i can't just change some gnome setting ?05:05
JDigitalThe one on Amiganet?05:05
thoreauputicProN00b: there's probably a way to do it in gnome, but how I don't personally know05:05
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NgJDigital: think so, yeah. with darxide? :)05:05
ruschiI put the Xmodmap into /etc/X11 so it will be read globally - I think05:05
g14antisocialboris: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins05:05
JDigitalYeah05:05
Nghaha05:05
JDigitalI'd be like05:05
JDigital!seen JDigital05:05
ubotujdigital is currently on #ubuntu (4m 7s)05:05
ruschixev shows all key events correctly05:06
JDigitaland it's say "Yeah I see you. Boy, you're ugly."05:06
Nghehe05:06
ompaulis colony 6 out today? I thought I read it and can't locate it in mail without resorting to some strange grep magic05:06
Ngahh, good old darx05:06
Ngthat was a proper bot :)05:06
JDigitalYeah05:06
JDigitalDancer ftw05:06
ruschiwho knows alot about X configuration05:06
naliothompaul: you are behind. the preview release is here already05:06
JDigitalHas Amiga released any non-vapourware at all since 2001?05:07
ompaulnalioth, is that C5 or C6  ? or am I just loosing it?05:07
thoreauputicProN00b: I would read "man root-tail " first - there are a lot of options. I don't use it any more because I cn get the same effect in fluxbox by toggling window borders off05:07
naliothompaul: it's neither. its Preview Release05:07
ccookenalioth: Colony 5 is *after* the preview release05:07
grayman_gl4, actually i had to install FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer to play divx movies05:07
thoreauputichi ompaul :)05:07
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ompaulhi thoreauputic05:07
naliothccooke: you kiddin me?05:07
ompaulnalioth, url please I want to provide torrent05:07
Secreth`Xdarn r0d isn't here..05:08
charlie5Ng, thanks ... i have just installed 'hoary hedgehog' ... can i update to gcc 4.01 from there ? the package manager only seems to provide gcc 4.005:08
naliothompaul: www.ubuntulinux.org/download05:08
ruschiis there a detailed Handbook for Xconfiguration?05:08
ompaulnalioth, if you promise not to laugh I was looking in cdimage.ubuntu ....05:08
Secreth`XDoes someone have expirience with partitionmagic?05:08
naliothSecreth`X: yes we do05:08
ruschiyes - bad ones05:08
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Secreth`Xerm05:08
Secreth`Xok05:08
Whistlerhow do i quit from man?05:09
Secreth`Xso everytime when I add a partition05:09
Ngcharlie5: you'd have to upgrade your entire install to breezy, which isn't currently a stable release. It is released in a little over a week though, so it's not long to wait, or you could do it now as it's fairly stable right now (but that could in theory change)05:09
[LethAL] Whistler, q05:09
ruschiI screwed up a ext3 partition once05:09
Secreth`XIt gives me the same error05:09
thoreauputicruschi:  man X ? *grin*05:09
g14Whistler, q05:09
naliothwijnand: "q"05:09
[LethAL] Got there first :D05:09
Whistlerthx05:09
Whistler:)05:09
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grayman_breezy works good <305:09
Whistlerhow do i empty trash on breezy?05:09
[LethAL] It sure does05:09
JDigitalHm, that fuser command says "19488c"05:09
g14Has anyone set up Evolution to connect to a groupwise server05:09
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JDigitalHow do I find out what that is05:09
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[LethAL] Whistler, right-click the wastbin?05:10
Whistlerther is no trash icon in panel05:10
grayman_Whistler, right click-> empty trash05:10
thoreauputicruschi: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is pretty comprehensive05:10
[LethAL] Whistler, add it back then05:10
naliothWhistler: right click and add it05:10
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g14I am curious to know if it supports calendaring and everything and if it does, I am converting my work laptop to ubuntu05:10
grayman_Whistler, bottom right corner05:10
ompaulWhistler, down the bottom right of the screen right click on bin and do it all or double click and highlight the bits you want to remove05:10
ruschi@thorapeutic - thanks for advice but I already did that05:10
dracflamlochello. anyone know of a good "hyperterminal" like program for linux05:10
Whistlerthx05:10
Whistler:)05:10
zeroverseg14 it does support calendaring05:10
charlie5ng, ok ... i have slooow net connect, so i will make do with the hedghog for present ... thanks for the assist05:10
ruschiand it works all right except for the virtual console switching05:10
Whistleri have another problem with my mp3 player05:10
g14zeroverse: and does it have busy search?05:11
thoreauputicruschi: it might be more useful to say what you are trying to do05:11
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SCR34MHi, got a problem when installing ubuntu, it stucked on the partition page, when I pressed the continue button, an error saying "E: unimplemented function" comes out, anyone can help?05:11
Secreth`Xnalioth: everytime when I add a partition, then reboot it gives me this: error 1527: Bad Update Sequence Number05:11
Whistlerthen i delete files from it ubuntu creates a new folder named .trash05:11
Whistlerand all files are in there05:11
ruschiI want to get my virtual consoles accessable again05:11
Whistlercan i disable trash05:11
Whistler?05:11
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ruschiby pressing ctrl+alt+fn05:11
naliothSecreth`X: i'm not up on my PM induced errors05:11
naliothSecreth`X: is the partition there?05:11
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thoreauputicruschi: have you checked /etc/inittab ?05:11
ruschialll works fine except for that05:11
Secreth`Xno it isnt05:11
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grayman_Whistler, what mp3 player?05:12
g14Whistler: there is a setting in gconf to bypass trash. gconf-editor is like the registry editor for windows05:12
naliothSecreth`X: have you tried gparted?05:12
whp_chick to chick05:12
Secreth`XIt gives that error when it's resizing C:05:12
ruschithey are all running tty1-tty605:12
Whistlergrayman_ apacer i dont remember model05:12
Secreth`XNo I didnt nalioth, I didnt understand it o_O05:12
imc_Hi, trying ito install JRE and following the instructions at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java - when I run the fakeroot command to create the .deb I get:   dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)05:12
Whistleri have this bug with all versions of ubuntu05:12
Whistlerif i can call it so05:12
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ruschiand I can access them whine X is starting but as soon as GDM is running completetly I can't accessthem anymore05:12
naliothimc_: use the deb05:12
naliothubotu: tell imc_ about javadeb05:13
imc_thanks05:13
grayman_Whistler, its probably not a big, but i dunno05:13
grayman_*bug05:13
imc_I have tried that and had difficulties. Can I test the install somehow to se if java is running?05:13
naliothimc_: type "java --version"05:14
ruschithorapeutic: xev shows the correct sequence CTRL_L , ALT_L ,F105:14
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imc_Thanks, nalioth!05:14
JDigitalHahaha05:14
JDigitalIt turned out that the process that was using my CD drive, was the shell window that I was using to try and close it05:15
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JDigitalthat's pretty ironic05:15
Secreth`Xnalioth: can I run gparted on ubuntu live cd?05:15
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naliothSecreth`X: the breezy livecd, yes05:15
atripathifinally got connected again :)05:15
Secreth`Xk05:15
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atripathithis dsl connection problem is getting serious05:16
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atripathifedora has nice support to dsl internet connection05:16
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sarkielo05:16
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davedatripathi: umm.. if you're using ethernet, anything will support it.. if you're not, you need to be using ethernet05:16
atripathii am on ethernet buddy05:17
atripathiwant on demand pppoe05:17
davedew.. pppoe05:17
sarkiehi does anyone know if brezzy is going to be compiled with the lastest gcc?05:17
davedget a real isp05:17
atripathipppoeconf is what i am using05:17
Robihnoodpls help how to install05:17
atripathii am on dsl05:17
atripathigot a dsl modem05:17
Robihnoodanybody help05:18
naliothRobihnood: help to install what?05:18
Robihnoodyes05:18
atripathiubuntu is good but it needs some more utilities to make life a bit easier05:18
naliothatripathi: add the ones you like05:18
sarkieit does? all in synaptics05:18
thoreauputicsarkie: gcc4 AFAIK05:18
sarkiethat ThomasM05:19
sarkieoops05:19
ompaulwow there must be very few seeders for the rc 386 iso  I am getting less than 1 kps for it05:19
grayman_atri, erm yo dont hav epppoe installed?05:19
sarkiethanx thoreauputic05:19
ruschibye05:19
atripathii just installed rp-pppoe just to mess up with my existing dsl setup05:19
grayman_hmm05:19
atripathifiddeling for 1 hour luckily left me to previous setup05:19
grayman_its not in apt05:19
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grayman_well05:20
atripathinope105:20
thoreauputic!info pppoeconf05:20
grayman_you can try poking MOTU guys05:20
ubotupppoeconf: (configures PPPoE/ADSL connections), section net, is optional. Version: 1.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 324 kB05:20
sarkiewhat exactly happens?05:20
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atripathiprovide info on epppoe05:21
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grayman_not epppoe05:21
atripathi?05:21
grayman_the e just jumped there from have :)05:21
ThomasMsarkie: Sorry to have screwed up your nick completion. :P05:21
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atripathik05:21
thoreauputicgrayman_: I think you want pppoeconf, don't you?05:21
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epic___Bless you, Angels of Hilarity.05:22
atripathigray i have pppoeconf and is actually working fine but is not what I would like to do every now and then05:22
grayman_thoreauputic, erm. i dont want pppoe. atripathi does05:22
thoreauputicgrayman_: whoever wanted it, it's in th repos05:22
thoreauputicatripathi: see ubotu above05:23
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thoreauputicatripathi: ah sorry missed your post05:23
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atripathiyeah i have pppoeconf05:23
thoreauputicOK05:23
atripathinp05:23
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gohHi05:24
kemik!shockwave05:24
ubotuUnfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!05:24
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atripathidoes breezy provide better internet connectivity gui tool ?05:24
SyrussI've got breezy badger...when I try to compile modules, or try compile anything it tries to use GCC 3.4 rather than version 4 (which I think my kernel is compiled against at a guess)....any ideas how I can make gcc 4 the default compiler (or a way around this problem)?05:25
Syruss...well, it tries to use 3.405:25
gohI got this msg earlier b4 I got disconnected.... any 1 can enlighten me on the detailed steps?":i'd copy cdrom to cdrom_backup and then make cdrom a symbolic link to cdrw (assuming that cdrw exists)05:25
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zoot_hi - trying to get sound output working on an "HP flat panel speaker bar" which connects via USB (I assume for power) and a sound cable to the PC. Using Breezy preview. Where do I begin?05:25
antisocialborismy uni has a dc++ hub, anyone know how i can get using it?05:25
antisocialboris(i got sent a program but its .exe)05:25
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Syrussantisocialboris, apt-cache search dc++05:26
naliothSyruss: in your terminal type "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.01" or whatever versaion 0f gcc you want to use05:26
Syrussta nalioth05:26
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Syrusshmm05:27
antisocialborisok, that gave me loads of stuff05:27
Syrussdoesn't seem to have that env variable nalioth05:27
Syrussdoes that override something else?05:27
sambagirlanyone install egoboo?05:27
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zoot_the sound card is: Realtek 2 channel ALC26005:27
Secreth`Xnalioth, I downloaded it, but how do I run it now?05:27
naliothSyruss: only until you close that terminal window05:27
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atripathiok i am going to try rp-pppoe again05:27
naliothSecreth`X: you in the livecd now?05:27
atripathisee ya peeps05:28
Secreth`Xnalioth: yes05:28
SyrussI still get: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found05:28
HappuHey somebody knows what version of ubuntu i get if i order cds? Is it 5.10 prelease or the correct one?05:28
Syruss:/05:28
zoot_all fixed.. mysteriously *grin*05:28
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naliothSyruss: edit your .sh file05:28
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epic___Anybody else find that testing sound input with gstreamer-properties after selecting ALSA causes it to die?05:28
naliothSecreth`X: type "sudo gparted /dev/hda"05:28
Secreth`Xnalioth: k brb05:28
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zeroversecan anyone reccommend a good password manager program like KeePass ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/keepass/ )?05:30
Whistlerthen i press 2nd mouse button on file nautilus restarts?05:31
Whistlerany ideas?05:31
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Whistleri am on breezy05:31
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Seveaszeroverse, revelation05:31
Syrusshmm05:32
olicatare there any programs for visually creating sql databases?05:32
Robihnoodhow can i boot to cd05:32
grayman_whistler, which is second button?05:32
JDigitalolicat: Microsoft Access05:32
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olicatboomboom.05:32
Whistlergrayman_ wright one05:32
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JDigitalRobihnood: Set it in the bios05:32
olicathow about for linux? :)05:32
Robihnoodthe ubunto doest not boot05:32
LazyAngelhas anyone tried to set up raid 5 on asus a8n-sli ?05:32
JDigitalDoes OpenOffice have a virus?05:33
JDigitalnot virus05:33
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grayman_Whistler, dont get that effect. which type of file is that?05:33
JDigitalI mean an MS Access equivalent05:33
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Whistler*deb one05:33
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JDigitaldon't know how I confused MS Access with a virus...05:33
SeveasJDigital, lol :)05:33
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Seveasopenoffice has a database program since 2.005:33
zeroverseolicat i use phpmyadmin05:33
Seveasbreezy has it05:33
olicatJDigital, it has something called Base05:33
olicatdoesn't use postgres though, it seems05:34
zeroversebut that requires mysql05:34
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Secreth`Xnalioth: erm, I think its stucked..05:34
grayman_Whistler, is it just with deb or also with other types?05:34
olicatzeroverse, i see. i'm after postgres05:34
Robihnoodi   finish download ang i write to cdr but  i tried to boot  can boot   using my download05:34
zeroversethere is something similar for postgres though05:34
Astholfhi05:34
naliothSecreth`X: what have you tried to do?05:34
olicatideally i'm looking for something gnome'ish05:34
Whistlergrayman_ with  few more files05:34
Secreth`Xnalioth: what you said.. sudo gparted /dev/hda05:34
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zeroversei'm looking for it right now05:35
zeroversegot it: http://phppgadmin.sourceforge.net/05:35
Seveas!info phppgadmin05:35
olicatzeroverse, cool thanks, i'll take a look05:35
ubotuphppgadmin: (Set of PHP scripts to administrate PostgreSQL over the WWW), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 3.5.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 576 kB, Installed size: 3448 kB05:35
Astholfdoes anyone know how to force the system to scan for new hardware?05:35
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Secreth`Xnalioth: yep, it's stucked.. it doesn't respond anymore05:36
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SeveasAstholf, reboot / /etc/init.d/udev restart05:36
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sproingiepostgres also has pgadmin III which is frankly not great but not bad either, no webserver+php required05:36
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naliothSecreth`X: kill your gparted process, and join #kubuntu-offtopic05:36
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zeroversehttp://www.pgadmin.org/05:37
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Secreth`Xnalioth: erm I can't kill it. I can't even move the frigging mouse o_O, k I'll join05:37
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AstholfCan't you do it without rebooting? I know there is a command that does that but I can't remember it05:37
Syrussthis is doing my noggin in05:38
sproingieoh there's also tora.  can't forget tora05:38
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sproingiehttp://tora.sf.net ... can't remember whether it does pg tho.  windows version is also useless, dont bother with it05:38
olicatzeroverse, that looks pretty good. thanks05:38
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zeroverseyeah, tora supports pg05:39
jenocinanyone else have problems with random freezing while on laptop battery?05:39
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zeroversei just use plain ol command lines for my databases05:40
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sproingiezeroverse: now if only the windows version wasn't such a steaming turd :(05:40
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=== sproingie designs schemas on his whiteboard and uses the CL, but nothing beats a nice query front-end with a functioning STOP button
noaXesshi all05:40
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ishWhat happened to lndir?05:41
AstholfThank you... this is a nice chanel05:41
Astholfbye05:41
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JDigitalI ate it05:41
Syrusshow can I totally un-install a module?05:41
sproingietho i suspect the stop button doesn't work for pg05:41
SyrussI'm not talking about rmmod'ing it either05:41
ishin hoary it was in xutils I think.05:42
SyrussI seem to have some kind of cached version of a module I can't get rid of using module-assistant's clean/purge05:42
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Syrussand it insists on using this tainted module instead of a freshly compiled one05:42
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Syrusstherefore making my whole system unstable05:42
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Ghoatanyone, how do I give write permissions to a folder?05:43
kemikGhoat:  chmod +w <folder>05:43
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noaXessGhoat: chmod -R for recursive05:43
Ghoatkemik: noa: thanks05:44
noaXessdoes anybody experienced with ubuntu and wireless cards?05:44
kemiknoaXess:  nope, but if you dont have a driver you could perhaps use ndiswrapper and the windowsdriver05:44
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kemik!tell noaXess about ndiswrapper05:44
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kemik!tell noaXess about wireless05:45
noaXesskemik: then its the same procedure than in other linux distris.. :)05:45
kemiknoaXess:  yeah, look up the supported page though aswell..05:45
noaXesskemik: i know all about it.. thought in ubuntu there is a solution05:45
kemikahh.. well i think it'd propaget thru all distros rather quickly05:45
Syrussaha05:45
kemiksince a solution would be native drivers05:45
kemik;)05:45
noaXessi have a notebook with an integrated intel wlan card.. and its hard to bring it up05:45
Syruss--force install05:45
jenocinany problems with xinetd that would cause freezes?05:46
crashboxhas anyone been able to install vlc on an amd64 breezy install?05:47
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noaXesskemik: its the ipw2200 chip from intel.. i see its supported with the given ubuntu driver..05:47
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LazyAngelcan ubuntu boot from software raid 5?05:49
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[LethAL] LazyAngel, no idea, look at !raid though05:50
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BooZeehello everybody!05:51
kemiknoaXess:  you're in luck then ;)05:51
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BooZeehow can I control and disable some things that run with the boot of linux?05:51
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rc55Hello - if I use the current Breezy preview, can I up it to breezy final easily?05:53
ompaulyes05:53
rc55great :)05:53
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noaXesskemik: yeah.. sounds that ubuntu support some hardware i need/have :) nice..05:54
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noaXesswhats the tool for upgrade or install? grafical or command?05:55
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BooZeesudo apt-get update05:55
BooZeeand than05:55
BooZeesudo apt-get upgrade05:55
vegiVampdist-upgrade, rather05:56
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GwildorShin_Gouki, i am back now....debian is installed05:57
noaXessBooZee, vegiVamp: thx i'm just new in ubuntu.. and plan to install it on my acer notebook05:57
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vegiVampnoaXess: if you run the update-manager, you should always have the latest version.05:58
LazyAngelis the boot partition only accessed when you boot? I want to put it on an old disk, but the disk  is noisy. So i want to unmount it when the boot is done...05:58
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noaXessvegiVamp: and the update-manager is a grafical ui?05:59
wickedpuppyFailed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Alpha i386 (20050902)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs05:59
wickedpuppyanyone knows how to solve this error ?05:59
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vegiVampLazyAngel: if should be, yes, but I'm not guaranteeing that :-)05:59
wickedpuppyi did apt-cdrom add05:59
wickedpuppybut still having this error05:59
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LazyAngelvegiVamp: thanks. that was what i thought. just needed to double check before all the work :)06:00
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boubahello06:00
vegiVampnoaXess: update-manager is a thingy in your taskbar, which checks for updates and calls synaptic to install them06:00
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vegiVampLazyAngel: just unmount it manually for a few days, and see what happens :-)06:00
LazyAngelhehe06:00
vegiVampbe sure to check the syslogs06:01
crashboxdumb question.......... does ubuntu come with a c compiler?06:01
wickedpuppycrashbox, no06:01
noaXessvegiVamp: i plan a web/mysql server and whant to check for updates all night.. then upt-get is my choice?06:01
kjbhi i found in an article, the following command, and i should do it, that vmaware is working, here the command: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-uname -r06:01
wickedpuppyyou got to get it after installing06:01
noaXessapt-get06:01
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kjbbut its not working06:01
crashboxwickedpuppy, thanks06:01
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[LethAL] !tell crashbox about be06:01
Ngkjb: that should be linux-headers-`uname -r`06:02
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Ngthe backticks are important06:02
kjbNg, thx06:02
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vegiVampbut if you really want to, just put a crontab with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade --force or something like that06:02
kjbthey have forgoten them in the articel06:02
vegiVampyou'll get a daily mail about what happened06:03
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vegiVampbut on a server, you don't update unless there's a good reason, such as security holes.06:03
vegiVampif it isn't broken, don't fix it06:03
boubahello06:05
kjbNg, E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r06:05
vegiVampnoaXess: cron something like apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -uV --dry-run (or whatever the parameter is), so it'll mail you what it would have done without actually having done it. Then you decide yourself wether you need to patch.06:05
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wickedpuppyhi who can i ask question on pbuilder ?06:05
kjbah the false '06:05
kjbnow its working :)06:05
Seveaswickedpuppy, just ask in here :)06:05
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wickedpuppyFailed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Alpha i386 (20050902)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs06:05
wickedpuppyi got this error06:05
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wickedpuppyalthough i added cd with apt-cdrom add06:06
wickedpuppyknow why Seveas ?? thanks06:06
Seveaswickedpuppy, is the mountpoint available in the pbuilde chroot?06:06
noaXessvegiVamp: thanks.. thats what i need.. later i come back to this tip.. first need to download it and install it on my notebook06:06
Seveasif not, mount it inside the chroot (or mount -o bind it inside the chroot)06:06
wickedpuppyah ... mountpoint ?06:07
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wickedpuppyi thought it mounts in var ?06:07
Seveaspbuilder chroot is in var indeed06:07
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Seveasyou need to mount -o bind the cdrom there06:07
wickedpuppyi am following the wiki exactly06:07
wickedpuppyoh .. hmms ... ah there is my missing step06:08
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Seveasthe wiki does not treat cds irrc06:08
wickedpuppyyah .. but pbuild ask for cd source ... perhaps its looking into my sources.list ?06:09
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Se7hi need some help plz06:09
scanwinderdoes anyone know of any console-based media players where you can have a playlist?06:09
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Se7him stuck on a apt error06:10
Danny_26Mneed help guys06:10
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Se7hlol06:10
SeveasSe7h, put the error on the pastebon06:10
Seveas!tell Danny_26M about helpme06:10
Kamping_Kaisernight all :S06:10
Se7his that the chan or the webpage?06:10
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Seveas!pastebin06:10
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ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:10
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Danny_26Mi have a laptop, and installed ltmodem, whenever I dial to connect...the screen suddenly gets blank06:11
Se7hk06:11
Danny_26Mdo you know the problem? thanks06:11
woodwizzleuuuhhh, somehow I made my desktop show the contents of my trashcan and not the contents of my ~/Desktop folder?!06:11
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Seveaswoodwizzle, did you move the contents of your trashcan to your desktop perhaps?06:11
florianhi, how to get the width and height of an image? I already tried identify, but I am not able to find out how to set two variables in a script, whereas one is holding the width and the other one the size06:11
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ubuntuhi06:11
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SeveasDanny_26M, just blank or is the system rebooting/hanging?06:11
Se7hk, its done06:12
Se7hhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/281706:12
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Danny_26MSeveas: it suddenly blanks. but it does not restart or anything06:12
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woodwizzleSeveas: perhaps,06:12
Danny_26Mi guess you I would say, it hanged and blank06:12
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woodwizzleSeveas but it is actually now Showing the trashcan. As in If i drag something to the wastebasket it appears on my desktop06:13
SeveasDanny_26M, and wiggling the mouse/hitting some keys/perhaps hitting ALT+F7 does not help?06:13
Danny_26MSeveas: i already used the modem and connect to the internet...there's one time that it just went blank06:13
woodwizzleand if I nautilus over to ~/Desktop it shows what SHOULD be on my desktop06:13
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!seen timido06:14
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ubotutimido <n=deb@unaffiliated/timido> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 12h 52m 8s ago, saying: 'dsfas you meen ftp client?'.06:14
SeveasSe7h, that's a bug in this package06:14
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bretzelBreezy still on October.13 ? :-)06:14
Seveaswoodwizzle, how weird, hang on...06:14
floriandoes anyone know how two set two variables in a script, one conatining the width and the other one containing the height of an image?06:14
Se7hSeveas ye i figured that06:14
picassoarg.... stupid gnome panel keeps fucking up, freezing up my xwindows06:15
SeveasSe7h, apt-get install eclipse-rcp06:15
mamelukehi folks... i've googled a lot... but i still have the same problem! WESNOTH has no sound! can somebody help me?06:15
wickedpuppySeveas, sorry but how would you mount the cd rom ? mount -o /dev/cdrom /var/cache/pbuilder ?06:15
grayman_florian, shell script?06:15
Seveasand then remove the other package BEFORE removing eclipse-rcp06:15
Alex_BOHELLO!I would like to check if I burned well a DVD.So I would like to copy all the DVD to /dev/null to check if there are I/O errors.but /dev/null is not a directory.any other ways?06:15
picassoanyone ever see it happen where your panel will jitter and cause system to freeze?06:15
Danny_26MSeveas: Alt F7 does not work06:15
Danny_26Many gues???06:15
floriangrayman_, yes06:15
SeveasDanny_26M, none at all, sorry....06:15
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kennethloveis there any sort of GUI NFS utility other than Gnome's Shared Folders?06:15
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Danny_26Mok thanks!06:15
Seveaskennethlove, not that I know of06:15
grayman_florian, var=806:16
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CarlFKAlex_BO - md5sum all the files06:16
kennethloveSeveas: thanks.06:16
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orionDanny_26M: you mean CTRL + ALT + F7?06:16
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Se7hSeveas i think ive done that before, but i'll try once more06:16
dbzdeathAlex_BO: cat /dev/yourdvddrivedevicename > /dev/null ?06:16
Alex_BOCarlFK, tnks06:16
mamelukeno Wesnoth-users here?06:16
Danny_26Mi'll try it orion06:16
Danny_26Mgotta connect my laptop06:16
CarlFKAlex_BO - what I do: create an md5sum file before, burn that to the disk too06:16
Danny_26Mbe bak in a minute06:16
woodwizzlemameluke, I'm a wesnoth user06:16
Danny_26Mthanks guys06:16
woodwizzleI got sound with it06:16
CarlFKAlex_BO - that way you can check it later if things get weird06:16
grayman_florian, can add export before to do it global06:16
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mamelukewoodwizzle, never had problems with the sound?06:16
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Alex_BOdbzdeath, okey.i didn't know to use `cat'06:17
woodwizzleI'm sure you already check thed sound checkbox in the audio menu of wesnoth06:17
woodwizzleWhat version are you running/06:17
mamelukemoment....06:17
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CarlFKAlex_BO - also, create a .torrent of all the files, put that on the disk. burn 2, give one to a friend.  if one disk gets hosed, you can use BT to repair it.06:17
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mamelukei've checked.. but will recheck06:17
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floriangrayman_, i am stilltraying to find out what you ment by "var=8"06:17
floriantrying06:17
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grayman_like06:18
grayman_width=806:18
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Crazy_Manstupid new kernel update06:18
Gordongerman ubuntu channel ?? do it exist06:18
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Alex_BOCarlFK: cool!the way of md5sum is cool06:18
Alex_BOCarlFK: thank you very much06:18
floriangrayman_, i see, but where to get the 8, in other words the width, from?06:18
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Gordonhelp because my englisch is very bad please help06:18
SpecAny one having trouble connecting to the repositories?06:19
dmlinuxhey guys , how do i make Gdesklets run on startup ??06:19
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mamelukewoodwizzle, there are just scrollbars, and they are on maximum... its the version 0.8.1106:19
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Seveaswoodwizzle, weird though: did you do ln -s ~/Desktop ~/.Trash ?06:19
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woodwizzlemamwlukw... wow thats old. Upgrade to 1.0 and see if that fixes it06:19
grayman_florian, you can use a program that will return that values06:19
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Se7hSeveas  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/281806:20
grayman_florian, or set manually06:20
woodwizzlewoops, w and e got swapped there06:20
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Se7hits drivin me crazy06:20
Gordonwie komm ich in den deutschen kanal06:20
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woodwizzleSeveas ... lemme check06:20
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mamelukewoodwizzle, hmmm.... i've installed it just with apt and the standard mirrors...06:20
CarlFKAlex_BO - here is mine: find ./ -follow \( -type f -or -type l \) -not -name "*.md5" -exec md5sum {} \;|tee index.md506:20
SeveasGordon, /join #ubuntu-de06:20
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woodwizzleyou might have to download the source and compile 1.006:20
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mamelukeomg06:20
mamelukeic06:20
Gordonthank06:20
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edgarinHi06:21
mamelukewoodwizzle, thx for the hint06:21
woodwizzlenot thtat hard, just ./configure make and make install06:21
floriangrayman_, I already tried "identify", but I was not able to figure out how to handle the result06:21
woodwizzleSeveas, dunno, how do I check?06:21
Alex_BOCarlFK, you are very kind06:21
Seveaswoodwizzle, ls -al ~ | grep Trash06:21
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grayman_florian, let me look at it06:22
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Se7hSeveas plz have a look http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/281806:22
woodwizzleSeveas, nope not linked. They dont' show the same content, they show what the other should06:22
torontoyesIs it possible to burn an iso onto a dvd ? and run it fromt he dvd,. cause i ran out of regular cd's06:22
torontoyes?06:22
Se7hwe should get a number on join06:22
Se7hlol06:22
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Se7htorontoyes sure06:23
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judahhi. so after breezy updates last night my update-notifier has the little light bulb stuck stating it has a post update alert.. except there is no alert listed and the close and run action buttons don't work. just the big X ... killing.. restarting.. rebooting.. logging out and back in.. nothing clears it.06:23
Seveastorontoyes, you van mount an iso file too :)06:23
avalostjudah, reboot probably just anew kernel messege06:24
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floriangrayman_, i.e. "identify bdw1128612098.jpg" returns "bdw1128612098.jpg JPEG 350x244 DirectClass 29kb 0.020u 0:01"06:24
judahno.. like i said.. been there done that.06:24
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judahand no message is actually listed.06:24
Skidhmmm, i've a home lan - is it possible to route 192.168.1.105 via eth0 if it's up, and if not eth1, as normal?06:24
avalostoh have you tried to run an apt-get update06:24
torontoyesSeveas: I realize I can mount an iso,. but I'd have to mount it from windows,. as thats the OS I'm in,.06:24
avalostthen upgrade?06:24
Seveaswoodwizzle, you've got me puzzled, no idea what's going on there. Maybe logout+login works?06:24
judahavalost: yep.06:24
Skid(i.e. so i can send at gig, rather than fe )06:24
avalostweird06:24
judaheven had 24 new updates this morning.06:24
judahyeah weird.06:24
torontoyesI am removing windows and sticking with linux06:24
Seveastorontoyes, very wise :)06:25
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torontoyesI don't know if ubuntu is the best thing to use,.06:25
Seveasit is :)06:25
torontoyesbut I guess I'll find out.06:25
judahtorontoyes: you won't be disapointed.06:25
Se7huhum06:25
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judahtorontoyes: but wait until breezy is live. "teh bomb"06:25
yanchenghello, anyone had encounter problem in installing glade-gnome-2? i get the error while installing :06:25
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yanchengglade-gnome-2:06:25
yanchengDepends: libgda2-1 but it is not going to be installed06:25
yanchengDepends: libgnomedb2-3 but it is not going to be installed06:25
Se7h!pastebin06:26
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:26
judahavalost: so any other ideas?06:26
avalostnot at the moment06:26
torontoyesIs ubuntu better to use for a Noob than Mandrake?06:26
Seveasyancheng, paste your sources.list on the pastebin06:26
Seveastorontoyes, much better06:26
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torontoyesreally06:26
avalosttorontoyes, about the same06:26
Se7hSeveas any ideas on that apt prob?06:26
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torontoyesUbuntu only has one cd to downlaod06:26
SeveasSe7h, well, looks like the eclips packages are quite broken06:26
yanchenghttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/281906:27
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avalostubuntu tends tobe less bloated06:27
ponthas anyone reported any problems when updating breezy beta that gnome wont start and it freezes X1106:27
Seveastorontoyes, the rest is easily installable on an installed system06:27
SeveasVERY easily even06:27
pontwell it frezes the computer06:27
yanchengSeveas: I saw there is another package named glade-2 from Development (universe), which is not official supported. should i use that one instead of glade-gnome-206:27
SeveasUbuntu has over 17000 pieces of software06:27
mindsporeHow's the installer in Breezy?06:27
torontoyesavalost: I am using an older machine,. but quite solid,. PIII 500 256mb Ram06:27
Seveastorontoyes, that'll run ubuntu just fine :)06:27
Se7hSeveas the major problem here is: /usr/sbin/update-gcj-classmaps-eclipse: No such file or directory06:27
avalosttorontoyes, it's all a matter for preference06:27
torontoyesI have an Intel Motherboard, my machine is the fastest PIII 500 I know06:27
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SeveasSe7h, that one is in the eclipse-rcp package, that's why I told you to install that one :)06:28
avalostI have run most major distros, mandriva and ubuntu are similar in ease of use but have different approaches06:28
torontoyesAnyway,. umm,. how should I setup my partitoins06:28
judahsweet it just crashed this time when i clicked on it06:28
CarlFKmy gf just got a a usb cd burner.  when she plugs it in, will Gnome baker need to be told about it, or will it find it?06:28
avalostuse the auto-setup feature06:28
Seveasyancheng, try disabling backports06:29
Se7hSeveas ye, but installing that will fetch some other stuff06:29
avalostthe settings are fine for most uses06:29
Se7hok, i'll try another way06:29
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avalostmandriva 2006 is quite spiffy in relation to releases of the past, it would prbably suit you to check out both and see what works for you06:30
avalosteveryone has different needs yanno06:30
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torontoyesAll i need linux for is my home desktop,. Utilize a word Processor,. do some web development,. thats about it.06:31
thrice`RC out =] 06:31
avalostubuntu would be fine then06:31
biezt_linuxubuntu is great :D06:31
biezt_linuxtbh06:31
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torontoyesavalost: whats a really good development suite for Web Development?06:31
avalosttorontoyes, I use quanta plus, screem and NVU and bluefish06:32
avalostall have their merits06:32
kennethlovescite!06:32
torontoyesindeed06:32
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avalosti'm not a fan of scite though06:32
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torontoyesI have tried quanta and NVU,. i have not tried Bluefish or sreem,.06:32
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thrice`wow, they got gnome 2.12.1 into breezy RC06:32
thrice`that musta been the delay :)06:33
kennethloveyou could try eclipse and jedit, if you're wanting to give everything a shake06:33
avalostbluefish & quanta are my two go-to editors06:33
[LethAL] ANybody know why I can't install arwiz-cursor on breezy?06:33
torontoyesAhh yes,. Eclips06:33
torontoyesEclipse06:33
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torontoyesI have heard of one other, I don't think its free though Komodo06:34
avalostnever tried it..06:34
kennethloveyeah, me neither.06:34
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yanchengSeveas: great! that's work. bt may i noe why it work?06:34
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Se7hdamn this is getting realy annoying06:36
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kennethlovewhat port does NFS connect on, anyone know?06:38
SpecAny one else have trouble reaching the repositories06:38
Skidnop06:38
sexcopter8000mhi, i want to download some songs on a webpage, i'm guessing wget is a good programme to use, what would be the command to do this?06:38
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Shin_Goukihi anyone want to help me to get an SPC player under ubuntu running?06:38
sexcopter8000mthey're all mp3s06:38
nubbeAny thoughts why the 5.10 RC torrent i386 is stalled?06:39
gverigHi! I have just installed few "universe" games. How can I add them to the "Applications" menu?06:39
kennethlovesexcopter8000m: you'd probably be better off with cURL than with wget06:39
sexcopter8000mok, thanks kennethlove i shall investigate06:39
puffHm, anybody familiar with IDEA?  I'm trying to import a project and it's not acting the way I expect it to.06:40
sexcopter8000mgverig: not sure, but i think that's a real downer with hoary, you can't edit the menus (am i right?)06:40
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sexcopter8000mbut you can make a launcher06:40
nubbesexcopter8000m, u can use smeg06:40
gverigsexcopter8000m: Yeah, I can. But want to edit menus :)06:40
sexcopter8000moh, ok my bad06:40
wezzerwoohoo, it's only a week to breezy's release!06:40
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puffWhoops, sorry, wrong channel.06:41
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gverignubbe: Who is smeg and what does it do (how does it work)?06:41
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pierrowhat does ubuntu use for sound ? alsa ?06:42
nubbegverig, it's a menu-editor, not perfect but better than nothing06:42
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gverignubbe: What package has it? I can't find it in synaptic06:43
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gverigAm I the only one who finds that it is stupid that menu is that hard to access?06:44
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Tobathe kernel update that came out awhile back if failing on my system06:44
TobaW: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.6_i386.deb06:44
Toba  MD5Sum mismatch06:44
nubbegverig, I got it from backports, don't know if it's in uni or multiverse06:44
Tobaany ideas about what I can do about that?06:44
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Crazy_Mananyone else having trouble with the new Breezy update?06:46
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daveoCrazy_Man: I've having tons of trouble with the new update06:47
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lakinBy default where does ubuntu put pictures uploaded from a digital camera?06:48
Myrttiit puts them somewhere?06:48
Myrtti:->06:48
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sexcopter8000mok kennethlove or anyone else, I've got cURL and can't see an easy syntax to download all the mp3 files off a given webpage... any help?06:49
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jjgodHi, will RC1 be released today?06:49
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judah!pastebin06:50
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:50
torontoyesI am having probs buring the ubuntu iso to a dvd06:50
funkyHati'm following the ubuntu wiki on setting up samba, and it tells me to add settings in the networking setup06:51
nubbejjgod, it's already out06:51
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funkyHatthe options aren't there though06:51
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torontoyeshow do I burn an iso to dvdr cd ?06:51
NvidiotI'm running apt-get and it tells me: The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386.06:52
NvidiotWhat's that about ?06:52
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GDornthey didn't pass and have to take the 4th grade over again.06:52
gverigDo I need any of the "source" repos if I do not plan on building anything from source? Is there any software that's not in bin?06:52
NvidiotGDorn: yeah, something like that I figured lol06:52
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funkyHatwow... new kernel again....06:53
funkyHatit's like there's an update every day! lol06:53
eliphas_yeah?06:53
Nvidiotoo! New bootscreen :D06:53
[LethAL] Hehe06:53
Nvidiotlooks neato06:53
Nvidiotcute progress bar and all06:53
eliphas_really ?06:53
Denskigood evening06:53
eliphas_a new spalscreen ?06:53
[LethAL] Nvidiot, USpash isn't new06:53
funkyHatNvidiot, not really that new ;)06:53
eliphas_spash06:53
NvidiotI didn't have that before tho06:54
gverigbackports repo from http://ubuntuguide.org/ is not available :( Anybody knows an alternative?06:54
judahanyone else update-notifier freaking out on them after updates from yesterday?06:54
[LethAL] judah, bulb with no suggestions?06:54
funkyHatNvidiot, do you have a vga= setting in your boot.lst?06:54
judah[LethAL] : YES!06:54
[LethAL] judah, me too06:54
judahdoh!06:54
NvidiotfunkyHat: if I do then the last kernel update added it06:54
judah'sup with that?06:54
judahi can't clear that sucker.. no way no how.06:54
Denskidoes anyone know how to install java runtime???? ubuntu hoary?06:54
[LethAL] !javadebs06:55
ubotuI haven't a clue, [LethAL] 06:55
funkyHatNvidiot, it won't have done, that would be a possible reason why the splash screen had only just appeared06:55
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[LethAL] wth06:55
[LethAL] !java06:55
ubotuit has been said that java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java06:55
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NvidiotDenski: RestrictedFormat wiki, use the one from sun and create your own deb file06:55
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judah[LethAL] : the close and run this action now buttons don't work either?06:55
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Denskisorry im a newbie...its a bin file on sun website right? how do i create a deb??? alien???06:55
Nvidiotno vga= setting06:56
NvidiotDenski: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java06:56
[LethAL] !tell Denski about javadeb06:56
judah[LethAL] : any idea where those bits are kept that it checks for those messages.. maybe it's just an errant xml entry.06:56
mshadeguys, how do I keep gam_server from being used?06:56
Nvidiotanyone know why mplayer-386 doesn't want to be updated ?06:56
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[LethAL] !tell Denski about dpkg06:56
[LethAL] judah, could be...06:56
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Shin_Goukiwho is a Linux sound freak and wants to waste a bit of time helpin me? to install an spc player on ubuntu?06:57
spiralhmmm, I have to use a home-built kernel under ubuntu in order to get some of my laptop's hardware to be properly handled...06:58
spiralhow could I give you informations about this so that maybe someday I could use default kernel ?06:58
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nerdy2mshade, why?06:59
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mshadenerdy2: because i leave my machine running and it gobbles up 47.5% of my 1GB ram?07:00
Nvidiotmshade: that's filecaching, which is perfectly normal and speeds things up actually07:00
fr500spiral, what hw?07:00
mshadeNvidiot: why then, doesn't it show up as cached memory?  instead of allocated07:01
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gverigAnybody knows if I can use warty backports instead of hoary?07:01
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judahmshade: run free -m  and check out your -/+ buffers/cache line07:01
mshadejudah: that's exactly what I did.07:01
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spiralfr500: medion laptop with sk98lin network card, sata chip, snd-hda-intel sound & so on...07:02
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mshadebefore killing gam_server:07:02
fr500ohhhh07:02
mshadeMem:          1012        962         50          0         52        14807:02
fr500spiral, sounds complex07:02
mshadeafter killing gam_server: Mem:          1012        480        531          0         52        14807:02
dmlinuxhey guys, i installed flash the other day,  and now i cant see TEXT  on some websites...?? Any ideas07:02
spiralfr500: yeah, that's why I compile my own kernel :-/07:02
[LethAL] Does anyone know why my LiteON Combo SOHC-5232K CD-RW/DVD-ROM doesn't burn CD's properly? Just prepares to do it and then 'finishes'07:02
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fr500spiral, i think there is a page for that, and the ubuntu device database probably helps07:03
dmlinuxhey guys, i installed flash the other day,  and now i cant see TEXT  on some websites...?? Any ideas07:03
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Denskithanks07:03
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mshadeso then, is there a way to disable gam_server?07:04
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mshadeattempting to remove it with sudo apt-get remove gamin... proposes to remove 2/3 of my useful applications07:04
nerdy2mshade, note that a lot of it is buffers/cache07:04
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mshadenerdy2: 148 mb07:05
naliothmshade: gam_server is a critical part of your system07:05
spiralfr500: I shall look atthis07:05
nerdy2here the RSS of gam_server is about 1MB07:05
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mshadenerdy2: here, it was up to ~40007:05
nerdy2the RSS ?07:05
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judah[LethAL] : i fixed it!07:06
mshadenerdy2: here is what ps aux|grep gam_server reported:07:06
Se7hok, i guess i'll have to w8 for a fix in this crap07:06
mshademike     23755  0.0 47.5 494636 493400 ?       S    Oct05   0:41 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server07:06
[LethAL] judah, Oh?07:06
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mshadenerdy2: and after killing it ~400 MB of active ram was cleared07:06
judah[LethAL] : toast your .update-notifier directory and log out and back in.07:06
mshadethis is far too much for 'file caching'07:06
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judah[LethAL] : then it posts the message and you can clear it.07:06
[LethAL] judah, Make me some toast, I don't have any07:06
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nerdy2mshade, yes you're right, that's not right,  my line is : jeff      9339  0.5  0.2   2840  1492 ?        S    01:05   3:40 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server07:07
judah[LethAL] : i make enough toast for my prego wife..07:07
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[LethAL] judah, as in command not found...07:07
NvidiotThe following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386. Why?07:07
nerdy2mshade, is your /home NFS mounted?07:07
mshadenerdy2: I have 3 NFS shares mounted, but not my home07:07
damghi, can anyone tell me how i can install (k)ubuntu (5.04) on a toshiba m50? the installation progress just hangs on 98%/activating pc-card system ...07:07
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mshadenerdy2: they are 3 data drives from a slackware file server07:08
GhoatI installed realplayer 10, nothing happens when you run it, where is the gui?07:08
mshadenerdy2: two 150GB partitions and one 400GB partition07:08
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nerdy2mshade, are they under /mnt or /media?07:09
mshadenerdy2: I have them mounted under /share/{1,2,3}07:10
damganyone?07:10
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mshadedamg: when launching the installer, look through the boot options (Fkeys).  there should be an option to disable pcmcia for the installer.07:11
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nerdy2mshade, do you have inotify enabled in the kernel?07:11
mshadedamg: after you're installed you should be able to enable pcmcia services.07:11
mshadenerdy2: I'm running the stock ubuntu 5.10 kernel, I'm not sure whether inotify is enabled in that or not?  it's not an option i'm familiar with.07:11
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damgi cant install, msshade, it hangs on 98% while detecting the hardware during installation07:11
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concept10Ghoat, I have the same problem.  Its a problem with the installation07:12
mshadedamg: you said it hangs while trying to initiate pcmcia services.. disable them for the install.07:12
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damgmsshade, wha options do i have to submit to boot: to deactivate them?07:12
damg+t07:12
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nerdy2mshade, i think it's compiled in, but i don't know if it's enabled by default [i have a lilo.conf which passes a boot-time option to enable it, and i had to make /dev/inotify for it as well] 07:12
mshadedamg: look through the boot options with the F1 F2 F3 keys07:12
judahmshade: grep NOTIFY /boot/config-`uname -r`07:13
damgok, rebooting :D07:13
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damgthx07:13
mshadejudah: INOTIFY is enabled07:13
nerdy2mshade, have you looked at the memory maps of gam_server to see what's the memory usage?07:13
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nerdy2[what's taking up that 400MB in other words] 07:13
florianwhy does echo `expr 2 * 2` tell me 'expr: syntax error' ?07:13
mshadenerdy2: beyond its ps aux entry and free -m, no07:13
concept10Ghoat, When the application is installed, it runs through a debconf dialog box.  You have to specify where the program is located at in this config.07:13
nerdy2mshade, that might be instructive, you could at least check what's making it go haywire,   for this you'd look in /proc/`pidof gam_server`/maps07:14
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mshadenerdy2: thanks for that tip.  I'll check that out.07:15
vbgunz_anyone know of a program that can read AiRoboForm passcards on Linux?07:15
vbgunz_anyone know of a alternative to AiRoboForm on Ubuntu?07:15
ky0nceflorian: escape the * like \*07:15
[LethAL] revelation07:15
[LethAL] !info revelation07:15
uboturevelation: (GNOME2 Password manager), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3.4-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 81 kB, Installed size: 424 kB07:15
florianthanx07:16
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judah[LethAL] : did that work for you too?07:16
[LethAL] vbgunz_, there are also firefox plugins for a similar function07:16
[LethAL] judah, as I said, I have no toast07:16
Ghoatconcept:can I view this debconf dialog box?07:16
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Futrzaqhello07:16
mshadenerdy2: now to try to 'accelerate' the problem heh07:16
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judahyou mean you don't have that directory in your home dir?07:16
judahrm -rf ~/.update-notifier07:16
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vbgunz_lethal, thank you, *but* nothing that can at least read the roboform cards correct?07:17
nerdy2mshade, also, fwiw http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/config.html [and maybe other pages there]  could be useful,  if gamin is getting confused polling your nfs mounts too often, or something else, you may be able to override it07:17
[LethAL] vbgunz_, probably not07:17
mshadenerdy2: thanks for the link.  I'm mainly familiar with slackware, which doesn't use these sorts of tools07:17
vbgunz_lethal, thank you, I have to try and export them all to text, I hope something works ;P07:17
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logikal_Hi guys07:18
nerdy2mshade, well gam_server is a relatively new thing which is integral in the gnome desktop07:18
logikal_I just installed ubuntu07:18
Futrzaqi've got a question which is not related to ubuntu at all, but please, help me ; ) I'm writing my resume in english, what am I supposed to put at the end, that I agree to copy and store my personal detail and so on... ?07:18
[LethAL] logikal_, Well done :D07:18
logikal_I want to make ubuntu look better, what can I do?07:18
logikal_hahah07:18
Futrzaqwww.gnome-look.org07:18
judahgeezuz.. the brown rulez..07:18
logikal_it wasn't hard it all, it just seems to work unlike other distros07:18
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funkyHatlogikal_, system > Preferences > themes07:18
jkroghAnyone using "xterm" in Breezy?07:19
dm_hey guys07:19
funkyHatif you haven't been there already07:19
nerdy2mshade, specifically it allows one to figure out when files are modified [it's a FAM server] ,  so if you can't figure out what's wrong there's always famd, but i'd recommend trying to fix gam_server first07:19
logikal_Yeah07:19
vbgunz_logikal_ yup gnome-look and gnome-art at www.gnome.org are two places to start07:19
logikal_Im using xIRC in breezy07:19
funkyHatxIRC?07:19
dm_Whats the repository for Java plug in?? when i follow ubuntuguide.org ther repos they gave me all come up with errors07:19
mshadenerdy2: hmmm ok07:19
logikal_xCHat IRC07:19
logikal_whatever came with it..07:19
funkyHatah xchat :)07:19
logikal_Just this human theme is a bit bland07:20
nerdy2mshade, [reasons to fix gam_server:  famd is more network aware, it uses RPC, and i hate to run portmap or have anything listening on ports :),  gam_server can use inotify rather than polling, which is a better kernel interface for notifications, it doesn't require opening a fd, and can be a bit finer grained ... so if you aren't using inotify this is maybe something to check out when you get bored :)] 07:20
dm_Whats the repository for Java plug in?? when i follow ubuntuguide.org ther repos they gave me all come up with errors07:20
NoUse!tell dm_ about java07:20
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dm_noUse ??07:21
mshadenerdy2: well, i have to run rpc.portmap to mount the nfs shares07:21
bpf!tell bpf about java07:21
nerdy2mshade, that's true :)07:21
mshadenerdy2: so I wouldn't call that a drawback in my particular scenario07:21
mshade:)07:21
logikal_Well guys, the largest resolution it will shot me is 1024x76807:21
dm_!tell dm_ about java07:21
NoUsedm_ read what ubotu sent you07:21
logikal_I need a larger res, im on a 21 inch monitor07:21
[LethAL] !tell logikal_ about fixres07:21
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vbgunz_logikal, not on Ubuntu at the moment but look in your xorg.conf file I believe...07:21
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logikal_thanks07:22
logikal_you guys are hepfucl07:22
logikal_helpful07:22
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logikal_If i could type durrh.07:22
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nerdy2mshade, the desktop applications for this are hopefully obvious:  the panel can keep track of your list of recently opened files by monitoring the file with the list,  your music player can monitor ~/Music and get updated if you rip another cd or whatever, your desktop search/indexing tool can get updated if files get modified to reindex them [beagle plays this role, but isn't installed by default] 07:23
dm_noUse, when i do apt-get it says cant find package07:23
[[[sPeEd] good evening...do you know how can i edit the my video card settings?07:23
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[LethAL] [[[sPeEd] , resolution problems?07:23
[[[sPeEd] i use hoary07:23
nerdy2mshade, so it's useful :), but hopefully you can make gam_server behave [or install famd]  :)07:23
NoUsedm_ did you read the link I sent?07:23
dm_NoUse Yes07:23
[[[sPeEd] adapter, change driver07:23
[LethAL] [[[sPeEd] , eh?07:23
mshadenerdy2: switching to famd, would I need to recompile many of the gnome apps?07:23
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cybawurm7 days07:24
logikal_any of you guys use xchat?07:24
ky0nceIs anyone using apt-proxy on ubuntu? In particular is apt-proxy-import working? I get a no suitable backend error.07:24
cybawurm^^07:24
[[[sPeEd] lethal, can i change the adapters? like vesa something? sorry im newbir07:24
[LethAL] logikal_, I certainly do07:24
[LethAL] [[[sPeEd] , Not quite sure what you mean...07:24
NoUsedm_ follow the instructions for Sun Java07:24
[LethAL] Still07:24
nerdy2mshade, i think you shouldn't  (there's a limfam which comes with both gamin, and famd, and the apps just dynamically link it, so ld does all the work)07:24
logikal_?07:24
dm_NoUse,  tahts installing as we speak07:25
logikal_Im adjusting my colors07:25
logikal_I like a black background07:25
nerdy2mshade, libfam, not limfam, obviously :)07:25
logikal_Hmm07:25
mshadenerdy2: alright then07:25
[[[sPeEd] [LethAL] , id like to change the video mode to vesa???07:25
logikal_How do I change MY text color?07:25
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dm_NoUse im installing java because i cant seem to see text on some websites, Is not having java that problem??07:26
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vbgunz_lethal, I found this on the mozdev.org site, this looks perfectly genious, http://passwordmaker.org/ do you use this or another password manager?07:26
nalioth[[[sPeEd] : open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" adn choose the VESA driver07:26
[LethAL] vbgunz_, I don't bothere with a password manager, I have a good enough memory07:26
vbgunz_lethal, do you have a recommendation I guess i am asking07:26
vbgunz_lethal, ahh, you have a brain, good ;)07:27
mshadenerdy2: so pardon my ignorance, but what would be the difference between poll and notify settings for gamin?07:27
[LethAL] vbgunz_, no I don't07:27
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logikal_guys07:27
logikal_How do i get to the console?07:27
[LethAL] vbgunz_, sudo /etc/init.d/brain [failed] 07:27
logikal_lol07:27
logikal_Im a KDE user..07:27
n00bsterhi all, What  Norton Ghost Vertion Can Backup ext3 Partition? (I trayed  7, dident worked)07:28
dm_Does anyone have the problem of not seeing text on some websites ?????07:28
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[LethAL] logikal_, It's canlled konsole07:28
[LethAL] called*07:28
logikal_where is it?07:28
vbgunz_Norton Ghost 9 can backup EXT3 from Windows07:28
[LethAL] logikal_, system iirc07:28
n00bsterOK, Dos It Have A GHOST.EXE Small File That I Can Boot From Floppy ?07:28
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nerdy2mshade, poll would use the poll(2) system call : this has a few drawbacks, one being you have to have an open fd [which means you may hit the fd limit if it's not high] 07:28
Shin_Goukihi which script/shell language would be probably best for customizing startup ubuntu?07:29
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florianis it possible to calculate 3/4 in the shell?07:29
[LethAL] florian, bc -l07:29
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dmlinuxhey guys, i installed flash the other day,  and now i cant see TEXT  on some websites...?? Any ideas07:29
florianthanx ;=07:29
vbgunz_n00bster: Ghost 9 is based on something other than Ghost... Symantec blew out booting from floppy but it Ghost no longer works like it use too07:29
nerdy2mshade, notify would use the kernel notification interface ...  there was an older one called dnotify, which also had some issues, and the newer one called inotify which is better [no open fd's, you can get finer grained control, it's really neat] 07:29
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vbgunz_I believe the new Ghost is based on DriveImage or something like it07:29
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mshadenerdy2: hmm ok07:30
nerdy2mshade, so presumably notify would use either dnotify or inotify [preferring inotify] , whichever is present07:30
phaerPHP tells me "Fatal error: Call to undefined function: start_session() in /var/www/index.php on line 11", on my ubuntusystem, but it works well on FreeBSD, so i think there's an extra package needed for php-sessions, do you know which one?07:30
NoUsedmlinux try installing gsfonts gsfonts-x11 and msttcorefonts07:31
Seveasphaer, #php and it's session_start()07:31
mshadenerdy2: according to my config, both are enabled -- i just added a 'notify /share/*'07:31
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dmlinuxNoUse, the apt get?07:31
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luiten00bster: it's now based on driveimage, if you are familiar with that, you know what you can expect07:31
mshadenerdy2: rule to .gaminrc -- so let's see if that helps07:31
NoUsedmlinux yeah use apt-get or synaptic07:31
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phaerSeveas: O_o thanks...07:31
mshadenerdy2: you were mentioning a kernel /dev/inotify device needs to be enabled ..07:31
logikal_Lol07:31
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logikal_I still cant find the konsole07:32
nerdy2mshade, to get inotify working, it first has to be compiled in to the kernel [that's fine with the stock one] , and then it has to be enabled [i dunno if this happens by default, but passing the boot option "inotify" will work, you can check dmesg to see if you get a message saying inotify's enabled]  and you have to have /dev/inotify   (mknod /dev/inotify c 10 63)07:32
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florianis there also a possibility to round a real number?07:32
cevizoglu does anyone know a good wiki or web page/doc on burn-in on a xserver before putting it to use?07:32
cevizogluer, I mean server07:32
Shin_Goukihi which script/shell language would be probably best for customizing startup ubuntu?07:32
logikal_wow , 463 updates07:32
dmlinuxNoUse do you think that is my problem?07:32
nerdy2mshade, then the inotify file notification just works by doing ioctl's on /dev/inotify as far as i understand it07:32
NoUsedmlinux I remember having a similar problem and that solved it07:33
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mshadenerdy2: what should permissions on /dev/inotify be07:34
nerdy2mshade, that's a good q, just a sec :)07:34
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dmlinuxNoUse do i need to restart X?07:35
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[[[sPeEd] wow thanks [LethAL] 07:36
[LethAL] ?07:36
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LokeDKwill upgrade to breezy skrew up my wireless settings?07:36
dmlinuxNoUse sweet that fixed it Thanks man !!07:36
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florianis there a possibility to round a real number in the shell?07:37
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vbgunz_LokeDK, imho, Breezy has better support for wireless connections... *but* be wary I suppose...07:37
anivairLokeDK: hard to say.  It seems almost anyhting can screw a wireless setting up anymore.07:37
Shin_Goukiflorian can u use C?07:37
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floriani never tried..07:37
LokeDKOh okay.. well I'll take the chance07:37
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NoUsedmlinux no prob07:38
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logikal_Could someone tell me where i can find the Konsole ? lol07:38
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anivairI think it's worth the chance, personally07:38
nerdy2mshade, you only need to be able to open /dev/inotify readonly, so 644 is fine07:38
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antisocialborishow do i set up dc++?07:39
mshadenerdy2: thanks07:39
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[[[sPeEd] is samba the same as nfs when it comes to network file sharing?07:39
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nerdy2mshade, if you are curious, i found this site http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-inotify.html07:40
mshade[[[sPeEd] : no, there are a couple of differences07:40
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[[[sPeEd] mshade, like?07:40
LokeDKwhere's breezy backports?07:40
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mshade[[[sPeEd] : for example, you can export multiple mountpoints under nfs as 1 share -- you have to use separate shares for separate mount points.  with samba, the entire tree can be exported07:40
mshade[[[sPeEd] : that's one example.07:40
mshade[[[sPeEd] : nfs tends to be more efficient07:40
silent_screamI have a prob with point to play: i mount the cd and I click on the istall button and nothing happens07:41
[[[sPeEd] oh ok so nfs is better than samba07:41
[[[sPeEd] thanks07:41
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mshade[[[sPeEd] : nfs is easier to deal with on *nix boxes07:41
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mshade[[[sPeEd] : on my fileserver, i run both samba and nfs.. nfs for the *nix clients and samba for the windows clients, though *nix could use either07:41
[[[sPeEd] mshade, can it share it windows network?07:41
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mshade[[[sPeEd] : nfs, not natively.  smb, yes07:42
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[[[sPeEd] mshade, oh ok07:42
mshade[[[sPeEd] : i think there are ways to get nfs to share to windows, but samba is much easier07:42
antisocialborisanyone know anything about dc++?07:42
mshadebrb all07:42
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erUSULmshade: install sfu (free from m$) and win can mount nfs shares07:43
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[[[sPeEd] mshade, thanks, im really having trouble to see the files in windows....there's this one time that when i accessed hoary, it asked for a password07:43
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pc22do linux have virus/worm threats?07:44
ChousukeNo.07:44
anivairnot really07:44
anivairrather: very few07:44
Chousukenone active :/07:44
anivairit's really hard to write viruses for linux due to root permissions07:44
pc22im curious07:44
anivairamong other things07:44
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[[[sPeEd] so there's still some virus on linux?07:44
anivairnone that I know of07:45
Chousuke[[[sPeEd] : it's old. and dead.07:45
anivairthere have been in the past (very few) and I suspect there will be some in the future, but I don't think there are any out now07:45
ChousukeExcept you can still propagate windows viruses if you accidentally send infected files via mail07:45
ChousukeI think linux has had maybe a dozen worms and viruses.07:45
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anivairanyone can propogate a windows virus if they send it as an attachment07:46
samu2Gah, my cdrom drive is locked...07:46
Chousukeyeah07:46
[[[sPeEd] does linux have antivirus?07:46
Chousukeyes07:46
Chousukefor windows viruses.07:46
anivairbut don't mistake that for linux being able to "have" a virus to which is is immune and then "spread" that virus around.  I heard that the other day and it's hogwash07:46
[[[sPeEd] what do you mean>07:46
Chousukethat dozen is not much compared to the few hundred thousand that exist for windows07:46
silent_screamis anybody  occupied with cedega or point2play?07:47
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samu2I accidentally found a command called eject.07:47
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anivairlinux has programs that strip windows viruses out of email and things so you can't spread them unknowingly through mail07:47
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mshadeanivair: the only way *nix could spread a win virus is probably by acting as a fileserver to the virus.. meaning a windows binary on a fileserver being infected07:47
Chousuke[[[sPeEd] : It's installed on servers, to filter windows viruses out of mail, mostly.07:47
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zack_anivair, just keep your system updated u shouldnt have any problems07:47
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Chousukeand oh!07:47
samu2But it says cdrom0 is busy...07:47
Chousukeyou can install some viruses in WINE!07:47
[[[sPeEd] oh ok07:47
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samu2How can I found out whats locking up my cdrom?07:48
zack_i suggest updating ubuntu once a week.. for proformance increases07:48
anivairagreed . . . but hearing someone talking about colmputer viruses like they were physical viruses the other day made me almost choke.  I just wanted to clarrify that that isn't the case before people get to talking07:48
ChousukeBut installing the viruses is difficult, and they rarely work :(07:48
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mshadesamu2: if you're in the cdrom's directory, or have a file manager open to it, it's 'busy'07:48
logikal_You guys have a theme site you like?07:48
logikal_for ubuntu?07:48
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mshadesamu2: leave the directory or close the file manager and try 'eject' again07:48
[[[sPeEd] gotta go07:48
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[[[sPeEd] c ya07:48
[[[sPeEd] thanks guys07:48
anivairhave you unmounted your cdrom before ejecting it?07:48
Chousukezack_: after the stable is out, it doesn't hurt to check for updates every day.07:48
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_bodhi_hi07:48
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vbgunz_logikal_: You didn't like www.gnome-look.org or www.gnome.org?07:48
anivairyou can't be in that directory or using it07:48
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Ofesamu2: go to root-terminal and type /eject or eject. worked with me.07:48
mshadeanivair: eject will unmount it for you.07:48
logikal_well07:49
logikal_let me try gnome.org07:49
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anivairreally?  did not know that07:49
samu2Ok, now it just worked suddenly.07:49
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anivairthen likely he was in that directory07:49
mshadesamu2: sometimes nautilus will keep it open after it's closed for a little bit07:49
anivairoops . . . woirk now07:49
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mshadeyeah, sometimes there's a bit of lag07:49
zack_what was that one virus that was out not to long ago07:49
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boxmanthe thing randomly freezes up when i for example drag and drop a file to another program like xmms..07:49
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_bodhi_any1 out there can tell me how I can get my Epia M10000 TV-Out (SVideo port) working with 5.04 and 5.1007:49
zack_it had to do with bitch chat and phpbb07:49
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Chousukeboxman: sounds serious.07:49
logikal_I really need to fix my resoultion first, but I can't find the Konsole....07:49
boxmanthe gfx card/xorg locks completly with the exception of mouse pointer07:50
boxmanwhile other things goes on..07:50
vbgunz_logikal, I have a beautiful theme comprised from theme parts of both sites... I couldn't use anyone site to come up with a theme I thought was really nice...07:50
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boxmani can login in using ssh, but killing xorg dosent do a shit07:50
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boxmanreset=only option :(07:50
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Chousukeboxman: what display driver do you use?07:50
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boxmanthe nvidia ones on apt07:50
mshadeboxman: try init 1 and then init 507:50
boxmanbreeze07:50
Chousukeif it's ati or nvidia binary drivers, they might be causing trouble.07:50
boxman7667 i think07:50
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ChousukeBinary drivers are evil07:51
boxmanbut i used those drivers under debian linux as well, without those problems.07:51
Chousukeif they were open source, some helpful ubuntu dev could fix it :(07:51
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boxmani have a bigger feeling it has something to do with x.org :\07:51
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Chousukeboxman: running the exact same version of x.org and kernel? :P07:51
Chousukethe binary drivers may conflict with either.07:52
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boxmanwell, i havent done anything to the kernel or xorg since i installed it.07:52
zack_boxman, why not get the latest nvidia drivers from there site?07:52
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boxmanzack_, you think that will make a difference?07:52
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rskhowdy everyone07:53
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boxmani know i used this exact same version under debian without these problems.07:53
logikal__hey guys07:53
boxmanthough that was downloaded from nvidia.com07:53
logikal__Where is the Konsole in this thing?07:53
boxmanbut i doubt that should make much of a difference?07:53
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zack_they are more stable and are alot better in games... around the same as the windows drivers they make07:53
rskNoob question of the hour: I just installed postgresql 8.0 and pgadmin3, any idea what the default login is to the DB? (postgres w/o pass is not working)07:53
naliothanyone familiar with ntfsresize?07:53
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boxmanso they are diffrent from those on apt? even though it is the same version?07:54
vbgunz_logikal_ are you on Ubuntu or Kubuntu? If Ubuntu are you looking for the terminal?07:54
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zack_apt drivers are often old07:54
logikal_yes07:54
logikal_the terminal07:54
logikal_where shall it be07:54
logikal_Im on Ubuntu07:54
logikal_the newest release07:54
logikal_5/1007:54
logikal_5.1007:54
sexcopter8000mok in firefox i'm getting that "current user profile is in use" business, anyone know how to fix it?07:54
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vbgunz_under accessories or system tools I believe... for left menu option on the panel07:55
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logikal_under accessories07:55
logikal_there it is07:55
logikal_thanks07:55
logikal_:)07:55
vbgunz_;)07:55
zack_wow couldnt u have searched for that ur self?07:55
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bpfsexcopter8000m, sounds like there is still a firefox process running07:58
bpftry ps -ef |grep firefox07:58
wezzerkill -9 firefox-bin07:58
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jkroghI have a Breezy system.. today I've had several firefox crashes. Is firefox rock-solid on your breezy-systems?07:59
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sexcopter8000myes there is bpf, isn't there some command like "killall" that i need?08:00
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Secreth`Xanyone familiar with ntfsresize?08:00
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djohngojkrogh: I've had some firefox crashes on breezy.  I think it had to do with plugins.08:01
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sexcopter8000mhmmm, "killall firefox" returns "no process killed"...08:02
jkroghsexcopter8000m: try firefox-bin08:02
sexcopter8000mwikkid bad, sorted, cheers :)08:03
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Shin_Goukihi anyone knows why : apt-get install xmms-openspc  fails with my system?08:03
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Shin_Goukiwhere doi find my sources .list?08:03
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_air_forcesnasss08:03
naliothShin_Gouki: /etc/apt/08:04
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Secreth`Xanyone familiar with ntfsresize?08:05
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zack_jkrogh, i still get firefox crashes08:05
logikal_can someone give me that fixres link again?08:05
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logikal_my res is still low08:05
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naliothubotu: tell logikal_ about fixres08:06
Shin_Goukinalioth, i tried to type:  apt-get install xmms-openspc but it said unknown pkg, then the said on xmms channel : looks like ubuntu dont have it in the repositories , ideas?08:06
zack_Shin_Gouki, try going thru symatic and running a search08:07
naliothShin_Gouki: compile it08:07
crimsunShin_Gouki: that's because it doesn't exist in the Ubuntu repo.08:07
Shin_Goukizack_ is this shell prog?, thx!!08:07
djohngoSecreth`X: I've used ntfsresize twice, and hosed the drive both times. ;)08:07
zack_just search for xmms u should find serveral downloads08:07
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antisocialboriswhat is cvs?08:08
zack_make sure u add repositories and update them08:08
Shin_Goukisomthing evil08:08
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crimsunSecreth`X: don't have access to a parted frontend?08:08
Shin_Goukizack_ whats the command for symantic?08:08
Shin_Goukizack_ i only have shell08:08
Secreth`Xerm08:08
Shin_Goukizack_ i only have shell or icewm08:08
egoleoi need ftp client08:08
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Secreth`XI resized so there was 20 gig blank space08:09
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egoleoa graphical ftp client08:09
Shin_Goukiegoleo, go to shell type ftp08:09
Shin_Goukioh08:09
benplautanyone having a problemw ith huge fonts this morning08:09
Secreth`Xbut nor linux nor windows detects that 20 gig of blank space08:09
davedvery nice installer guys08:09
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egoleoi dont want command line08:09
benplautdunno what the heck happened, but...08:09
naliothdrazQ: crimsun: we havent hosed the partition yet08:09
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egoleook08:09
davedthat was incredibly painless08:09
antisocialborisim having problems with apt-get update, can anyone help?08:10
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zack_sudo synaptic08:10
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djohngoSecreth`X: did you run some form of fdisk after ntfsresize?08:10
naliothdjohngo: how would fdisk be used afterwards?08:10
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egoleoany ftp GUI08:11
egoleoany GUI ftp client08:11
zack_antisocialboris, are you using GDE or KDE or xfce?08:11
naliothegoleo: gftp08:11
deFryskegoleo, gftp08:11
djohngonalioth: the way I understand it, you have to rewrite the partition table after you free up the space.08:11
egoleomine crashes08:11
egoleoso i need a new one08:12
djohngonaloith: like I said, though.  I botched it up both times I tried it.08:12
egoleomy gftp crashes so i need a new one08:12
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naliothegoleo: kftpgrabber08:12
egoleoapart from gftp08:12
BiSK-8hello08:12
lucaasgftp segfaults lots for me too08:12
naliothdjohngo: that is the part that has lost me08:12
lucaasi use lftp now (console based)08:12
egoleois it for kde?08:12
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BiSK-8whats a good program that i can get through apt-get that will let me open rar files?08:12
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davedBiSK-8: rar08:13
naliothBiSK-8: unrar-nonfree08:13
bpfunrar08:13
gsuvegre08:13
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logikal_How do i save a txt file im working on in terminal?08:13
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BiSK-8daved, nalioth: thanks08:13
lucaaslogikal_, in what editor?08:13
lucaasor are you just typing in the terminal?08:13
deFryskin nano crtl-x08:13
logikal_yeah i got it08:13
logikal_it asked me about it08:14
logikal_I never used nano before..08:14
deFrysknano is a handy dandy editor08:14
logikal_BRB08:14
logikal_hope it works dude.08:14
rob^^^how usefil is a tivo without a subscription?08:14
lucaasindeed08:14
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rob^^^err useful08:14
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boxmanwell, installing nvidia drivers using the official installer is easier said than done... it complains about gcc on system being 4.x, while the kernel was compiled using 3.x :(08:15
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zack_gahhh that logikal guy was anoying08:15
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zack_i hate people that dont try looking before asking08:15
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logikal_Ok08:15
logikal_all that did was up my refresh rate08:15
deFryskzack_, some dont know where to look08:15
logikal_I sitll dont have the desired resolution08:15
boxmanany suggestion for what to try now?08:16
zack_some don't need to be here if they are lazy08:16
crimsunboxman: so install build-essential and gcc-3.408:16
johnnythundersi'm trying to play mp3's off my ntfs partition in breezy.  file says08:16
crimsunboxman: then export CC=gcc-3.408:16
johnnythundersMP3 file with ID3 version 2.3.0 tag08:16
BiSK-8daved, nalioth:  it says that there r already installed but how can a ipackage a rar file? when i double click the files icon it says that its a not supported file type08:16
Seveas!tell johnnythunders about mp308:16
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deFrysklogikal_, I usually run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg use the default unless something needs to be adjusted08:16
johnnythundersyes please!08:17
naliothBiSK-8: you want to rar something up?08:17
naliothjohnnythunders: check your private msgs08:17
BiSK-8nalioth, no, i want to unrar a file08:17
boxmanlet me try again..08:17
Seveasjohnnythunders, ubotu yold you in a private message08:17
Seveas!tell johnnythunders about restricted08:17
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naliothBiSK-8: if you have unrar-nonfree, your ark or file-roller should unrar it (is it damaged?)08:17
logikal_Could someone PM me a list of monitor modes?08:17
logikal_like 600x80008:17
logikal_ a full listing08:17
deFrysklogikal_, read what I told you08:17
zack_lol08:17
KaparenTwo days in a row now my Abuntu have been working fine after applying the new Nvidia drivers but then not working OK the day after.08:17
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BiSK-8naolioth, i dunno, who can i find out?08:18
flask-hi I'm using Hoary and when I use apps that use gtk-1.x (like xmms), the fonts are huge and grainy... how do I fix this? thanks. :)08:18
logikal_I did do that already08:18
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logikal_Now im editing  /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:18
kris_nows a polisch channel for ubuntu?08:18
deFryskin that config prog you can see tons of settings for your screen08:18
logikal_well08:18
kris_anyone knows?08:18
zack_logikal_,  1024x72808:19
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logikal_how do i select them08:19
zack_1280x102408:19
zack_ect...08:19
deFryskwith your spacebar08:19
logikal_Oh ok08:19
logikal_duhh08:19
naliothBiSK-8: open another rar file and see08:19
logikal_sorry im a retard08:19
BiSK-8nalioth, what exactly do i gotta do to unrar the pkg with ark or unrar08:19
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deFryskand also unselect with your spacebar08:19
djjasonI just installed apache2 and I need to add a scriptalias..do I add it to apache2.conf,,,since http.conf seems pretty empty and useless now08:19
BiSK-8nalioth, thats the prob, it wont open08:19
deFrysklogikal_, what inc does your screen have ?08:19
deFryskinch08:19
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logikal_2108:19
naliothBiSK-8: just clickig on it should open one of those, or you can right click and "open with"08:19
kris_anyone from poland? I need help...08:19
logikal_21 sony trintron08:20
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deFrysklogikal_, set is to 1600x120008:20
johnnythundersvery sorry, thanks seveas y ubotu08:20
deFryskit*08:20
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mad_phoenixdoes ubuntu use ld.so.conf?08:20
logikal_Ok well im going to run the config thing again08:20
rskDoes anyone here know the default password for the "postgres" user on Ubuntu 5.10?08:20
rsk(Post 8.0)08:20
BiSK-8nalioth, i double click and it says that its an unsupported file type, under open with which program should i select?08:20
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deFrysklogical aso do a few "lower" settings in case it does not take08:20
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naliothBiSK-8: right click and select open with file-roller08:21
kris_jest tu ktos z polski?08:21
deFryskits no prob to do 3 or 4 resolutions08:21
[LethAL] hm... maybe08:21
[LethAL] !pl08:21
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, [LethAL] 08:21
[LethAL] Grr08:21
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deFrysk!polska08:21
ubotudeFrysk: I give up, what is it?08:21
mad_phoenixim trying to run a script to build enlightenment 17, and it keeps saying it can't find ld.so.conf...i confirmed that i don't have it using locate.  is there a package that installs it?  I already have build-essentials, automake, libtool, etc...08:21
zack_his fault he didnt set it up when installing ubuntu08:21
KaparenI get a ' Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)', how do I fix this?08:21
kris_I need help anyone knows a polish channel for ubuntu please?08:22
BiSK-8nalioth, there is no "file-roller"08:22
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naliothmad_phoenix: type "sudo apt-get build-dep enlightenment"08:22
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naliothBiSK-8: i'm sorry i'm so out of touch with gui things ( i do all my stuff in a console)08:22
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k_defthello, guys do you know how to make work usb ADSL modem?08:22
naliothBiSK-8: "archive manager"08:23
BiSK-8nalioth, it says Tipo di archivio non supportato which means archive type not supported08:23
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BiSK-8nalioth, how can i dpkg it through terminal?08:23
logikal_here  igo08:23
logikal_this shoulda worked08:23
naliothBiSK-8: you seem to have trouble. Is unrar-nonfree installed?08:23
BiSK-8nalioth, yes it is08:24
BiSK-8im on breezy btw08:24
BiSK-8on  hoary it used 2 work08:24
naliothBiSK-8: right click on the rar , select open with other application, and find08:24
nalioth"archive manager"08:24
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k_defthello, guys do you know how to make work usb ADSL modem?08:25
pc22how can i see my other ubuntu computer in the network08:25
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benplauti woke up this morning to huge, ugly fonts and a panel waaaayyyy too thick... any suggestions?08:25
BiSK-8nalioth, no archive manager08:25
boxmani installed gcc-3.4 and typed export gcc=3.4 and the nvidia driver still complained about the same thing..08:26
benplaut!font08:26
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, benplaut08:26
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zack_benplaut, what DE ? Kde gde xfce08:26
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benplautbleh08:26
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benplautzack_: gnome08:26
benplautbreezy08:26
logikal_Wonderful!08:26
logikal_it worked08:26
Nvidiotboxman: uhm, just use the package? It's in apt-get...08:26
logikal_im in 1280x1024 :)08:26
Nvidiotlogikal_: 1600x1200 here, on a 15" laptop :P08:27
zack_benplaut,  maybe ur reso changed?08:27
benplautreso?08:27
boxmanNvidiot, i was suggested to try the official installer, as i am having stability troubles.08:27
benplautoh08:27
benplautno08:27
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logikal_oh wow08:27
benplautstill at 1024x76808:27
boxmanalso the package in apt-get did not work with the newer driver08:27
logikal_you must have like 20x15 vision08:27
Nvidiotboxman: hmm, I saw something about a memory leak on a wiki the other day...08:27
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boxmanalso the package in apt-get did not work with the newer kernel*08:27
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naliothBiSK-8: idk what to tell you, i have archive manager on my breezy(s)08:28
logikal_next task, Making the font in xChat bigger..08:28
Nvidiotlogikal_: well, other people tend to complain that they can't read my screens lol. I love the space though :)08:28
zack_< 1024x76808:28
logikal_anything smaller then this, freaks me out08:28
Nvidiotboxman: I'm running the latest ubuntu here, WITH the latest nvidia driver and kernel. Works for me08:28
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boxmanthe official nvidia driver wont build, because i have gcc4 installed while the linux kernel was built using 3.408:28
logikal_I feel closterphobic08:28
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benplautit's only the fonts for the panel and gnome program's panels08:28
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Nvidiotwhy do I get this? The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386 ?08:28
BiSK-8nalioth, wait08:29
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BiSK-8file roller isnt installed08:29
Nvidiotboxman: you could of course build the kernel with gcc4 ?08:29
BiSK-8where can i download it?08:29
boxmani really dont want to compile a kernel again now.. :\08:29
lsuactiafnerlogikal_ : press control alt + or -08:29
naliothBiSK-8: where you d/l everything else, apt-get or synaptic08:29
boxmanso you are saying it is not possible to use the kernels on apt?08:29
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lsuactiafnerthe + or - at the far end of the keyboard08:29
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boxmanwith the nvidia installer..08:30
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BiSK-8nalioth, nope, it says that its not here..... i dunno08:30
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Nvidiotboxman: slow system? Don't understand it though, I'm using the latest kernel and latest nvidia driver from apt, works fine for me08:30
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BiSK-8nalioth, got a url?08:30
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logikal_Ok08:30
Alex_BOHELLO men!i have a problem with some pdf.i use xpdf as the ubuntu 5.04 release.sometimes in some pdf, when i try to skip the page (for example from page 22 to page 23) it crash and it use the 100% of CPU and i have to kill it.is it a know bug?08:30
logikal_So now, I want to make my own txt a differnet color08:30
pc22hello08:31
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pc22how can i see my other ubuntu computer in the network?08:31
lsuactiafnermad_phoenix : should be under /etc08:31
naliothBiSK-8: you have serious trouble, my friend08:31
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CryptidHow do i check how much RAM i got?08:31
boxmanNvidiot, random freezes when i do simple operations like drag and drop a file..08:31
boxmanthe gfx card freezes up completly08:31
naliothBiSK-8: have you updated your system lately?08:31
lsuactiafner /etc/ld.so.conf08:31
BiSK-8nalioth, is that all?08:31
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KaparenI've installed the Nvidia drivers in Ubuntu and now I get a  Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found) error when I startup. Anyone know how to fix this?08:31
boxmanwhile rest of the system is still running08:31
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lsuactiafnermad_phoenix : if you dont have it yoru system id screwed up very badly08:31
BiSK-8abt 4 days ago nalioth08:31
mad_phoenixlsuactiafner: it's not08:31
mad_phoenixlsuactiafner: im using 5.10, if that makes a difference08:31
Nvidiotboxman: I did read something about a memory leak on the ubuntu wiki the other day, when I was reading about hibernate08:31
ompaulBiSK-8, are you running gnome?08:31
naliothBiSK-8: update it now08:31
BiSK-8yep08:32
NvidiotKaparen: did you use synaptic/apt to get the driver /08:32
BiSK-8i already am08:32
BiSK-8:P08:32
mad_phoenixand im pretty sure my system isn't borked because i compile my own programs i write very regularly with gcc/automake/libtool etc.08:32
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naliothBiSK-8: archive-manager is default and i dont see how you dont have it in your context menus08:32
boxmansomoene here suggested that i try the one from nvidia site instead, but that seems impossible since the linux kernel i am running was compiled with a different gcc than this system has08:32
mad_phoenixi only have ld.so.cache under /etc08:32
Alex_BOhalo?08:32
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BiSK-8nalioth, i have it, but no unrar08:32
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BiSK-8so ill update08:32
boxmansomeone told me to do a apt-get install gcc-3.4 and then type export gcc=3.408:32
Nvidiotboxman: they indeed *have* to be compiled with the same compiler...08:32
boxmanbut that did not do anything08:32
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Cryptidnalioth,How do i check how much RAM i got?08:32
Kaparenno I downloaded it from Nvidia site and manually installed it #dri, 'nvidia' just like in the wiki guide08:32
naliothBiSK-8: install "unrar-nonfree"08:32
Ubunti_KiIm thinking of getting som repositories for my 5.10, can I get those in ubuntuguide.org or does those only work for 5.04 ?08:32
boxmani really wonder why the kernels on apt is compiled with a different gcc :X08:33
BiSK-8nalioth, and if worst comes to worst transfer it to my hoary hdd and dpkg it08:33
Ofehm. I want to edit "/etc/ppp/peers/provider" how do I do that as root? type "edit /etc/ppp/peers/provider"?08:33
naliothUbunti_Ki: ubuntuguide.org will kill your box08:33
logikal_How do I change the color of "MY txt" in xchat08:33
kbrooksyay.08:33
NvidiotKaparen: easier to grab it from synaptic. That works great for me :)08:33
boxmanthey seem pretty unusable then08:33
mad_phoenixUbunti_Ki: just switch all of the "hoary" entries to "breezy"08:33
naliothubotu: tell Ubunti_Ki about sources08:33
kbrooks5.04 rc is out08:33
boxmanif i cant compile stuff08:33
NvidiotOfe: sudo gedit /etc/ppp/peers/provider08:33
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Ubunti_Kithanx, thats it?08:33
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BiSK-8thx man08:33
kbrooksnow i have to wait ...08:33
KaparenNvidiot: Did you have the same problem before you got it from Synaptic?08:33
BiSK-8cya08:33
mad_phoenixUbunti_Ki: yup08:33
BiSK-8g2g08:33
kbrooksUbunti_Ki: wait08:33
OfeNvidiot: thanks. So I was missing gedit08:33
mad_phoenixUbunti_Ki: and don't bother with the backports08:33
kbrooksread the bot's reply08:33
Shin_Goukinalioth, openspc is bad to me it says:08:34
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Cryptidnalioth ,How do i check how much RAM i got?08:34
NvidiotKaparen: I get everything I can from synaptic, much surer way, that way I can easily keep up with updates etc08:34
naliothShin_Gouki: no pasting08:34
KaparenNvidiot: I dont even know what Synaptic is?!08:34
naliothCryptid: lshw08:35
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zack_synaptic owns08:35
naliothubotu: tell Kaparen about synaptic08:35
NvidiotKaparen: system -> administration -> synaptic package manager08:35
Cryptidnalioth, wat??? wats that?08:35
zack_sudo synaptic in console08:35
boxmanNvidiot boxman: I did read something about a memory leak on the ubuntu wiki the other day, when I was reading about hibernate <--- what was the solution?08:35
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boxmanif there was any.. :P08:35
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mad_phoenixSo does anybody have an idea of why my breezy install doesn't have ld.so.conf?08:35
Cryptidnalioth, oh ok i got it thanx08:35
Shin_Goukinalioth, i know thats why here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/282308:35
Nvidiotboxman: disabling some option, I vaguely recall 'option noaccel' or something to that effect08:35
naliothCryptid: open a terminal and type lshw08:35
boxman:\08:36
boxmani know i have renderaccl activated..08:36
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naliothShin_Gouki: type "sudo apt-get build-dep xmms"08:36
kbrooksew usb 108:36
Ubunti_Kikbrooks, what was it that you wanted to say?08:37
Nvidiotboxman: that said, I don't know how old the wiki was, it said I should set some options and then hibernate would work. It doesn't. Hardware compatibility list says it should work08:37
kbrooksthats awfully old for a hp printer08:37
boxmanOption "RenderAccel" "true"08:37
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boxmanok08:37
Nvidiotboxman: try with that on false... see if it fixes the crashing08:37
logikal_Ok guys, how do i mount my windows partitions08:37
boxmani know i did not have this problem using debian and the same version of driver08:37
kbrooksUbunti_Ki: forget about the backports. do not use marillat (forewarning for the future)08:37
thrice`!windows08:37
uboturumour has it, windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative08:37
Thirstehwhat's the cli command to toggle whether an init process starts or not, in ubuntu?08:38
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thrice`er...08:38
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logikal_wine is a good one?08:38
KaparenNvidiot: So I should 'box' all the nvidia choices?08:38
thrice`you can chmod -x a startup script08:38
Thirstehlogikal_, for non-directx apps yeah08:38
logikal_I heard wine is pretty popular..08:38
palhi i need help with apt, where is the link to configure apt?08:38
logikal_what's the one you guys would suggest?08:38
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Thirstehthrice`, I'm talking about runlevel scripts08:38
kbrookstheres a winegcc too08:38
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thrice`Thirsteh, and? ?08:38
Thirstehthrice`, like, I installed Webmin, how do I toggle if it starts on boot, isn't there a command instead of having to move files from rc.X dirs?08:39
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Ubunti_KiOk, I just change "hoary" to "breezy" and don't care about nothing else?08:39
sorush20how can I get all my applications to use kde open/save dialogues rather than gnome...08:39
thrice`should be in /etc/inti.d I would guess08:39
NvidiotKaparen: nvidia-glx, that should automatically grab the other things as well08:39
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Thirstehthrice`, you're obviously not getting my point at all08:39
palhi i need help with apt, where is the link to configure apt?08:40
thrice`Thirsteh, that init scripts are called from that dir as exec. files?08:40
KaparenNvidiot: Thanks man! I'll try it now!08:40
Nvidiotpal: use synaptic08:40
thrice`and chmod -x'ing will not allow them to startup ?08:40
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Ubunti_Kikbrooks, Ok, I just change "hoary" to "breezy" and don't care about nothing else?08:40
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Cryptidnalioth, wat is Vmware and can i use it to run some video converting software which was originally made for windows08:40
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logikal_does ubuntu come with wine?08:40
NvidiotUbunti_Ki: read the wiki on how to upgrade. It's almost as simple as that. ALMOST08:40
palwhat is synaptic08:40
benplautok, figured out more08:40
thrice`logikal_, what do you need it for ?08:40
naliothUbunti_Ki: that's the first step08:40
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Nvidiotpal: system -> administration -> synaptic package manager08:40
[LethAL] logikal_, no, in repos though08:40
naliothubotu: tell pal about synaptic08:40
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logikal_to look at porn videos :)08:41
logikal_to get my txt files and such over here for school08:41
Nvidiotlogikal_: just want the w32codecs for that :P08:41
kbrooksUbunti_Ki: in sources.list (and in synaptic), yes08:41
benplautfonts i select using the Gnome font util don't work. it defaults to who-knows-what, and i have no idea how to fix them manually. Suggestions?08:41
Kaparenhmmm installed version is the latest version. Should I reinstall08:41
Ubunti_Kiare there many steps? =)08:41
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Shin_Goukinalioth, its finished...what now?08:42
kbrooksUbunti_Ki: 3 in both08:42
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naliothShin_Gouki: try your build again08:42
Ofeumm.. what's the problem. I type stty in root-terminal, then change connection speed to 115200 with command stty 115200. Then I close root terminal and reopen it, stty says connection speed is 38400.08:42
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Ubunti_KiOK? :P08:42
naliothUbunti_Ki: read the /topic and follow the wiki08:42
kbrooksYeah...08:43
Ubunti_Kiwiki where? sorry to disturb but im a noobie08:43
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kbrooksUbunti_Ki: wiki.ubuntu.com08:43
Ubunti_Kithanks08:43
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kbrooksUbunti_Ki: /topic08:43
kbrooksread it.08:43
darkheartOfe Never used that before, but sounds like that value needs to be set in a config file for it to be present everytime you stty08:43
kbrookssecond from last item has the link08:44
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kbrooksnalioth: if only people actually read the topic, oh well08:44
Ofeok darkheart. thanks. I'll try to find the file08:45
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naliothubotu: tell Ubunti_Ki about upgrade2breezy08:45
mad_phoenixWhen I run ldconfig -v it spits out tons of information about the libraries it's adding to the cache, but I still don't have an ld.so.conf file.  I do have ld.so.cache in /etc, but that's it.  Do I have to manually create ld.so.conf?08:45
Skidhm08:45
naliothwho took out the factoid?08:45
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nalioth!upgrade2breezy08:46
ubotunalioth: I give up, what is it?08:46
naliothWHO removed the factoid?08:46
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kbrooksnalioth: I don't know08:46
Ubunti_KiNot good?08:46
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benplautw00t08:47
benplautjust like i thought, KDE was getting in the way :D08:47
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naliothUbunti_Ki: ubotu is here to save us time and typing08:47
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[LethAL] ubotu, upgrade2breezy is <reply> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:47
ubotuokay, [LethAL] 08:47
[LethAL] !upgrade2breezy08:47
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:47
[LethAL] :D08:47
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Sonny_Wertzikdoes nayone here use superkaramba?08:47
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logikal_Ok im having a problem08:47
logikal_I cant find wine in the synaptic08:47
logikal_I added some repositorys08:47
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[LethAL] logikal_, it's in universe iirc08:48
[LethAL] !info wine08:48
ubotuwine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB08:48
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Ubunti_KiOh thanx very much "ubotu" & "nalioth"08:48
logikal_oh ok08:48
[LethAL] ubotu isn't a person08:48
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ubotu[LethAL] : Do they come in packets of five?08:48
logikal_it's in universe08:48
logikal_thanks you.08:48
antisocialborismy apt-get update went crazy08:48
sorush20guys I'm trying to get rid of extra and wrong kernels off my system how can I do that..08:48
[LethAL] sorush20, via synaptic or any apt-get frontend08:48
mad_phoenixsorush20: delete them from your boot directory08:48
naliothubotu: tell Ubunti_Ki about upgrade2breezy08:49
Nvidiotmad_phoenix: don't do that... use apt!08:49
naliothsomething fishy goin on here08:49
palubontu: tell pal about ubuntu08:49
[LethAL] nalioth, why?08:49
mad_phoenixNvidiot: why?  removing from /boot and editing menu.lst achieves the same thing08:49
kbrookspal: No. /msg the bot08:49
Nvidiotwhy do I get this? The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386 ?08:49
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palubontu: tell pal about ubontu08:49
Nvidiotmad_phoenix: is apt smart enough to figure out that you removed it when you run it next time ?08:49
naliothUbunti_Ki: read your priv msgs08:50
Sonny_Wertzikdoes nayone here use superkaramba?08:50
ThirstehAny idea when Breezy will be "finished" up?08:50
naliothpal: read your priv msgs08:50
palsorry08:50
naliothThirsteh: oct 1308:50
mad_phoenixNvidiot:  why does it have to?  If I'm keeping the latest version and deleting old ones it won't install anything new.08:50
Thirstehnalioth, awesome, that's soon08:50
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Nvidiotmad_phoenix: well, I don't want this huge list of old kernels I installed a long time ago when I fire up synaptic :)08:51
mad_phoenixNvidiot: although apt is equally valid and probably easier, i just like doing things manually :)08:51
Ubunti_KiI see, thanks agains, a lot. Both nalioth and unotu!08:51
antisocialborismy apt-get update has problems connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com08:51
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Nvidiotantisocialboris: pick another mirror then?08:51
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Ubunti_Kibrb........             .....     ..08:51
mad_phoenixNvidiot: ya, i just use apt so it's not an issue08:51
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bibehi all! I have just installed Ubuntu 5.10-rc on my desktop pc!08:51
[LethAL] Nvidiot, antisocialboris, gb. is fine...08:51
sorush20is there a way that I can find out what packages have never been using on my computer so that I can remove them form my computer08:51
antisocialborishow do i change it?08:51
antisocialborisso why are things going wrong if its fine?08:52
robstahi, does anyone know of a firefox 1.5 src deb (ppc deb would be even better)?08:52
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logikal_OK, I installed the wine-doc where does it install to?08:52
[LethAL] /usr/doc probably08:52
thrice`logikal_, you don't need wine to mount windows drives08:52
brisslt08:52
logikal_well08:52
logikal_can someone tell me how to mount windows drives please :)08:52
bibehow can I use multimedia extensions (w32codecs and libdvdcss2, most of all) with Breezy?08:52
[LethAL] !tell logikal_ about windowsdrives08:52
antisocialborisim trying to set up dc++, would it just be easier to get wine and run it through that?08:53
Nvidiotbibe: see the RestrictedFormats wiki08:53
mad_phoenixlogikal:  mount -t ntfs /dev/(whatever hd windows is on) /mnt/windows08:53
bibelogikal_ : FAT or NTFS?08:53
bibeNvidiot : thanks08:53
logikal_ntfs08:53
mad_phoenixlogikal:  or whatever other folder you want to mount it to, you just have to create it08:53
bibeso mad_phoenix is right. Be careful writing on ntfs!08:53
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mad_phoenixyes, there's ntfs tools but after you use them to write from linux there's another utility that essentially runs through and makes sure you didn't b0rk the hell out of it08:54
naliothubotu: tell logikal_ about windowsdrives08:54
[LethAL] Well, it's far better to write to ext2/3 drives from windows than NTFS from Linux imho08:54
mad_phoenixagreed08:54
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kahuna_Hi. I just installed ubuntu and uncommented the CDrom apt-respository. When I try to get packages off the net I get md5sum mismatch on security.ubuntu.org08:54
[LethAL] ubuntu.org?08:55
deFrysksudo apt-get update08:55
[LethAL] Try changin it to .com08:55
[LethAL] And do that ^^08:55
logikal_ok guys08:56
logikal_thanks08:56
logikal_I got the winm fstab installed08:56
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Ofehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2825 <- what does that errormessage mean?08:57
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no_dammagEI installed ubuntu onto the machine, but the X-Server won't start. the graphics adapter is an Ati Mobility X600, display is 1280x768 wxga. the server tells me: primary device is PCI 01:00:0, ATI: Candidate "Device" section "My Video Card" (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device. No devices detected ...08:57
kahuna_[LethAL] : It's us.archive.ubuntu.com08:57
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pupilJust installed Ubuntu,.08:57
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pupilits very nice08:57
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Sionidegood on you08:57
Sionidekeep it08:57
[LethAL] Ofe, no need to sudo from root08:57
kahuna_Any other repositories that I can try?08:57
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floriani now have 5.10 preview installed. will it be possible to upgrade to final 5.10?08:58
logikal_Ok guys08:58
[LethAL] Ofe, also, running gui apps with sudo won't work well08:58
logikal_Video Codecs08:58
logikal_Where do i get those?08:58
[LethAL] Ofe, use gksudo gedit08:58
deFryskflorian, for sure08:58
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pupilSionide, Concerning the updates,. theres alot of them,. some of them relative some not,. should I just update everthing?08:58
logikal_Windows Video Codecs08:58
LasseLdidn't they take the codecs out of the backports?08:58
logikal_ubotu tell logikal windows codecs08:58
Ofe[LethAL] : so gksudo gedit /etc/ppp/peers/provider?08:58
Sionidepubuntu,08:58
Sionideoops08:58
LasseL!codecs08:58
ubotu[codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:58
logikal_ubotu tell logikal codecs08:58
Sionidepupil, yes do them all - might as well08:58
pupilindeed08:59
kbrooks!cigarette08:59
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but kbrooks needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)08:59
floriandeFrysk, thanx, I used Fedora Core so far and there it would not have been possible08:59
[LethAL] Ofe, no, take the file out and then open it in gedit08:59
kbrooksubotu: forget cigarette08:59
ubotui forgot cigarette, kbrooks08:59
deFryskflorian, you will never have to upgrade using an installdisk again08:59
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floriani like it ,)09:00
Nvidiotwhy do I get this? The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386 ?09:00
[LethAL] Nvidiot, stop repeating yourself09:00
damganyone who can help me with xorg on a toshiba m50 (satellite)?09:00
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Ofe[LethAL] : ok, I'll try. So I have to search the file, open it in gedit and edit it, all in GUI?09:00
Nvidiot[LethAL] : sorry :/ Just trying to get it fixed09:00
deFryskNvidiot, probably you have "bad" repo's09:00
antisocialboriscan someone help me sort out apt?09:00
jimzillahi i,ve got a question09:00
[LethAL] Ofe, you don't have to use the gui09:00
joachimwhat's the module for the gnome Network administration tool?09:01
antisocialborisit cant seem to connect09:01
[LethAL] Ofe, sudo nano /etc/foo/bar will work fine09:01
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NvidiotdeFrysk: hm, I'm using my isp's mirror. What does the error mean ?09:01
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deFryskNvidiot, it means that there is a missing/wrong dep stopping mplayer from being installed09:02
kahuna_Anyone else getting the MD5sum mismatch off of security.ubuntu.com?09:02
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kahuna_on apt-get update09:02
NvidiotdeFrysk: any way to get more info other than a bit windows-like: uh, no, doesn't work09:02
Ofe[LethAL] : I'm a newb as you must've noticed. sudo nano etc/foo/bar will let me edit /etc/ppp/peers/provider? o.O or sudo nano /etc/ppp/peers/provider? I know that nano is something like notebook.09:02
LokeDKupgrading to breezy - what should i choose here: http://pastebin.com/385316 ?09:02
[LethAL] Ofe, choose the latter ;)09:02
jimzillahow can one configure multiple ips on one network adapter09:02
logikal_W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90709:03
deFryskNvidiot, you have probably a repo in your sources.list wich should not be there09:03
logikal_:(09:03
logikal_:(09:03
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NvidiotdeFrysk: want me to paste my sources.list on the web ?09:03
deFrysksure ,you can do it in pastebin09:04
vbgunz_LokeDK, why don't you compare and merge changes?09:04
vbgunz_LokeDK: if that is possible?09:04
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LokeDKthere is show differences between version.. but else not vbgunz_09:04
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logikal_Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release09:04
logikal_Ign ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release09:04
logikal_Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch/main Packages09:04
logikal_Fetched 192B in 2s (86B/s)09:04
logikal_Reading package lists... Done09:04
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logikal_and then i get the error09:04
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vbgunz_LokeDK: yeah, choose show difference and if in doubt keep asking :)09:05
NvidiotdeFrysk: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/282709:05
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LokeDKjust prints like a content of a .diff file?09:06
pupilHow do I mount my file systems?09:06
deFrysk!info mplayer09:06
logikal_deFrysk09:06
logikal_you know whats going on bro?09:06
kbrooksnalioth? pm?09:06
deFrysk!info mplayer-i38609:06
Davidleerothpupil edit ftsab and then use the mount command09:07
deFryskNvidiot, repos are ok09:07
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pupilyou mean fstab09:07
deFrysk!mplayer09:07
ubotusomebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106109:07
NvidiotdeFrysk: that's what I figured09:07
Davidleerothyes i do typo09:07
DavidleerothNvidiot I love your nick09:07
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deFryskNvidiot, read the above and see if it helps09:07
ollklklHello, is there gonna be a Kubuntu Breezy RC too?09:07
naliothlogikal_: dont paste in here please09:07
borgistaHow do I get the lame & faad packages for breezy? 'sudo apt-get install lame faad' doesn't work.09:08
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morfeohola09:08
deFrysk!es09:08
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:08
NvidiotdeFrysk: strange, that wiki lists -586, -k6 and -amd64... maybe I should zap the -386 and grab -58609:09
Davidleerothi wish that it was possible to request an edubuntu/kubuntu cd from shipit.ubuntu.com.  I guess that it really isnt a big deal to download kde after you install it to a system if you have a good connection (not 56k)09:09
deFryskNvidiot, sure ,why not09:09
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joolzgood evening09:10
borgistaHow do I get the lame & faad packages for breezy? 'sudo apt-get install lame faad' doesn't work.09:10
joolzor rather bad evening for me :\09:10
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joolzi just upgraded from hoary to breezy and now my settings are borken09:10
deFrysk!tell borgista about restricted formats09:10
Davidleerothjoolz a bit mre specific....09:10
shinuanyone has an ipod? mine doesnt seem to be charging... im not sure if its the cable...09:11
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borgistaThank you deFrysk09:11
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NvidiotdeFrysk: affects mozilla-mplayer, but I'll reinstall that :)09:11
cevizoglushinu: if it's blinking, it's not charging09:11
joolzDavidleeroth: i get a terminal login and a lot of these messages "-bash: /dev/null: permission denied"09:11
Nvidiotthere we go :)09:12
shinucevizoglu: what is blinking? the big do not disconnect sign?09:12
Nvidiotthanks guys (again)09:12
joolzwhen i first booted a lot of error messages about LC_CTYPE not being able to be used (file or dir not found)09:12
etnoyjoolz: run ls -l /dev/null09:12
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cevizoglushinu: the ipod itself09:12
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shinucevizoglu: like... backlight?09:12
pupilshould i edit fstab with vi,. or ?09:12
borgistadeFrysk: Is this valid also for Breezy?09:13
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deFryskborgista, sorry valid for what ?09:13
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borgistaFor getting lame & faad for Breezy.09:13
borgistaor Hoary only?09:13
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cevizoglushinu: no... should be the same light that flashes when  the iPod is paused09:13
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pupilSo basically,. I have two hard drives,. hda1, hda2 hdb1, hdb2  hda1 has ubuntu on it.09:13
etnoyborgista: have you enabled multi/uni/verse in sources.list?09:14
joolzetnoy, i'm on windows now, so i will have to reboot for every suggestion or question. will ls -l /dev/null solve my problem?09:14
deFryskborgista, did not read the wike are they available in muliverse ?09:14
borgistaI'm not sure.09:14
etnoyno, it will help us find the problem09:14
deFryskif yes it wil also work in breezy09:14
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borgistaI'll add it to sources.list09:14
shinucevizoglu: not really sure what youre talking about... i just got it today ^^'09:14
etnoyif the permissions on /dev/null are too restricted you cannot write to it09:14
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kbrookswell09:15
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etnoyjoolz: so you cannot use the computer at all?09:15
joolzetnoy, how can these permissions become so restricted from a dist-upgrade?09:15
pupilI don't recall setting a root password09:15
pupilhow do I log in as root so that I can edit fstab?09:16
joolzetnoy, yes, i can boot (but without network) and do a terminal login09:16
joolzthat;s about it09:16
etnoyjoolz: are you on hoary or breezy?09:16
scavwhere is the gnome-logout script located09:16
etnoyand have you made any customizations?09:16
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joolzafter the upgrade? no09:16
joolzbefore that, of course :)09:16
etnoyand before?09:16
joolzbut nothing drastic afaik09:16
etnoyokay09:16
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etnoywell it sound weird09:16
joolzthe system was running without problems for months on hoary and before that warty09:17
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etnoybut try this: sudo chmod 777 /dev/null09:17
flipyis it safe to update from hoary to breezy? and is to so simply to change the apt sources.list and do a dist-upgrade?09:17
etnoythis will maximize the permissions on /dev/null09:17
pupilwhile the system is updating,. do i have to close any applications?09:17
etnoybut the change won't be left when you reboot09:17
etnoypupil: you don't have to close anything09:17
etnoythis is linux :)09:18
etnoyno files are locked like on win09:18
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kbrookspupil: you can close them after it updates and reboot09:18
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bibewhen I login remotely from my laptop at work to my ubuntu machine at home, using ssh -X, and launch an X application, will all the traffic go through port 22, or should I make other tweaks on the office's firewall09:18
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pupilhow do I ensure that ubuntu mounts my file systems when the system boots?09:19
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etnoyjoolz: ls -l /dev/null looks like this for me, if it's anything else than that try the above command.09:19
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pupilis that why I am editing the fstab?09:19
etnoycrw-rw-rw-  1 root root 1, 3 2005-10-01 14:28 /dev/null09:19
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HappyFoolbibe: afaik all goes through 2209:19
etnoynote the rw-rw-rw09:19
HappyFoolhmm09:19
pupiland how do I get root acces,. I don't recall putting in a root password09:19
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HappyFool!tell pupil about root09:19
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etnoyjoolz: see man chmod if you've got questions09:19
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vbgunz_LokeDK: how things turned out?09:20
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pupilHappyFool, if it is diabled,. how am I supposed to edit fstab?09:20
logikal_There is no mplayer in my synaptic package manager nor can i install it in apt-get09:20
HappyFoolpupil: yeah, /etc/fstab specifies automatically mounted partitions09:20
logikal_what the fuck is going on09:20
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HappyFoolpupil: read the page ubotu sent to you09:20
bibeHappyFool : so I can use, e.g., Firefox as if I were at home?09:20
TotallyNewOnehi to all. Just wanted to say that i just installed 5.10 for the first time and until now had no problem at all. Network, Sound, Updates, KDE integration, vpn, everything. nice work and thanks to the ubuntu team.09:20
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pupilHappyFool, ok,. thanks09:20
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HappyFoolbibe: i believe so; i can't remember what the difference between ssh -X and ssh -Y is09:21
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logikal_ubuntu does install and work very good09:21
HappyFoolhmm, bother09:21
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etnoypupil: precede a command with sudo, and you'll get root perms09:21
joachimis there a command to tell which apt package a particular file on my HD belongs to?09:21
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cevizoglushinu: ipod usually only charge when they're completely unmounted... since ubuntu automounts usb drives, you may need to eject from command-line or nautilus to have it start charging09:21
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pupiletnoy09:21
robstai have upgraded yesterday but still no sound on ibook g3, is this a known issue?09:21
etnoyand the required password is _your_ password09:21
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HappyFooli'm getting lots of these spam messages -- what's the setting to disable non-reg users sending me /msg's /09:21
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etnoypupil: yes09:21
Ngjoachim: dpkg -S /path/to/the/file09:21
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antisocialborismy connection keeps timing out so i cant connect to security.ubuntu.com when i apt-get update09:22
bibeHappyFool : I am logged in from home (LAN, without any firewall between the laptop and the pc) and I have gedit open, netstat only shows port 22 connected09:22
antisocialborisanything i can do?09:22
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[LethAL] HappyFool, "/msg nickserv set unfiltered off" iirc09:22
HappyFool[LethAL] : thank you09:22
dalfahi!09:22
joachimthanks Ng :)09:22
[LethAL] HappyFool, services should set mode -6 on you then09:23
dalfaI have a question to the ubuntu community09:23
bibeI just wanted to be sure that tomorrow I will be able to connect from office ;)09:23
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naliothHappyFool: /umode +CE09:23
[LethAL] HappyFool, or +6, I can't remember09:23
pupilhow do I check and see what partitons are on my hard disks?09:23
nalioth[LethAL] : that turns off the networks protection09:23
pupildf -v?09:23
TotallyNewOnefdisk -l09:23
pupilcool09:23
[LethAL] nalioth, ?09:23
nalioth[LethAL] : +6 is an unknown mode flag09:23
dalfais good sell the free ubuntu cds?09:23
chachcan anyone tell me how I figure out my http proxy??09:23
dalfaits ubuntu GPL?09:23
[LethAL] nalioth, "[18:33:20]  * services. sets mode +6 [LethAL] "09:23
HappyFoolbibe: you should have a port 6010 open on the ssh server09:23
nalioth[LethAL] : set unfiltered off to nickserv turns OFF network protection from spamming09:24
HappyFooldalfa: you can sell 'em if people will buy 'em09:24
nalioth[LethAL] : have you tried /umode -6  ?09:24
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pupilTotallyNewOne, fdisk -l does not work09:24
LokeDKvbgunz_, still unpacking stuff :(09:24
HappyFooluse sudo fdisk -l09:25
DavidleerothWHat distribution of debian is breezy based off of?09:25
[LethAL] nalioth, you're wrong, /msg nickserv help set unfiltered09:25
vbgunz_LokeDK: oh ok *but* how you handle it, accepted the default, kept the old or did you do the diff?09:25
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LokeDKpushed y.. install package maintainer's09:25
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chachnewb here, can anyone tell me how I figure out my http proxy??09:26
etnoyi've got problems with my smbfs mounts disconnecting from my gentoo samba server09:26
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chachi'm working on a network install09:26
bibeHappyFool : yes, it's open, but it's "talking" to port 1310 on the server09:26
vbgunz_LokeDK: ok ;) I hope it works!09:26
Cryptidnalioth , What is the command to del or remove directories??09:26
nalioth[LethAL] : the default setting of the network has filtering ON  HappyFool shouldn't have to msg nickserv anything09:26
dalfahappy fool: well i dont wanna sell them but here in my country there is a shop09:26
etnoysmb_file_read: Bill Evans Trio - Sunday at the Village Vanguard (1961)/04 - Solar.mp3 validation failed, error=429496729109:26
LokeDKvbgunz_, so do i :)09:26
dalfawho sell ubuntu free cds09:26
[LethAL] nalioth, I know, but he might have thought it would be useful somewhere09:26
etnoyand I need to re-mount the shares09:27
bibeHappyFool : so I can expect X traffic not to be stopped by the firewall09:27
naliothCryptid: "man rm"09:27
dalfaand i wanna known if that is right with ubuntu license09:27
etnoyI've never encountered these problems on my other linux boxes09:27
etnoydalfa: why don't you look att www.gnu.org and read the faq?09:27
vbgunz_Dalfa selling Ubuntu CDs at cost is reasonable otherwise give them away would be nice too, unless of course a huge amount of the proceeds go back to Ubuntu for further development would be great09:27
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etnoya lot of good info there09:27
Davidleerothdalfa you can get them for fre at shipit.ubuntu.com09:28
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cumcum82hi09:28
Davidleerothhi09:28
larsrohdinhi=)09:29
cumcum82:)09:29
vbgunz_hi09:29
cumcum82i have problems09:29
[LethAL] Don't we all...09:29
vbgunz_yeah hehe09:29
larsrohdinword09:29
cumcum82i come to solve them09:29
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dalfai dont need buy, i just want to known is ubuntu was GPL09:29
etnoycumcum82: welcome to the ubuntu therapy board then09:29
NgdeFrysk: some of it is GPL, some of it is other licenses09:29
dalfabecause gpl let sell the soft09:30
etnoydalfa: read the message in /etc/issue09:30
Ngerr09:30
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cumcum82therapy09:30
Ngdalfa: some of it is GPL, some of it is other licenses09:30
cumcum82:)09:30
etnoyubuntu is a collection of many programs under various licenses09:30
cumcum82any one know how to configure spidermonkey?09:30
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Davidleerothubuntu is perhaps the most fun word to type in all the land09:30
larsrohdincumcum82, I don't but have you tried the 'man' pages?09:30
Davidleerothiits a cool word because the n's and u's look so cool09:30
etnoythe exact distribution terms for each program are described in the09:30
etnoyindividual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.09:31
dalfaoh well thanks a lot09:31
etnoydalfa: I mean /etc/motd09:31
cumcum82ok i do it 1st09:31
Cryptidnalioth , rm -d command isnt working09:31
larsrohdincumcum82, always a good place to start09:31
Davidleerothdalfa if you were to sell ubuntu cd's, it would be nice to return around 50 percent back to ubuntu (time for devel is money)09:31
cumcum82thnx09:31
etnoycumcum82: and google :)09:31
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larsrohdinDavidleeroth, ey the ubuntu team, do they accept donations?09:32
HappyFoolCryptid: do you get an error message? if so, what is it?09:32
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etnoylarsrohdin: oh yes they do :(09:32
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naliothCryptid: what exactly are you trying to do?09:33
etnoy:) sorry wrong paranthesis09:33
larsrohdinsomething to do when I get a job maybe...09:33
vbgunz_larsrohdin, who doesn't take donations ;)09:33
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MagicFabhello09:34
Davidleerothhello09:34
CryptidHappyFool & nalioth , the error says cannot remove vmware-distrib/: Is a Directory09:34
MagicFabI just noticed 5.10RC1 is out09:34
larsrohdinvbgunz_, heh true09:34
naliothCryptid: again: what exactly are you wanting to do?09:34
dalfadavidleeroth: i dont want sell cds, i just want to known if does is letit by ubuntu license09:34
Davidleerothi love vmware. i use it when i am on my win32 notebook just so i can use ubuntu/knoppix:)09:34
bibeMagicFab : yes!09:34
MagicFabIf I had Colony 5 installed, can I "update" to 5.10RC1 ?09:34
MagicFabhow ?09:34
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woldenI've a question, you fine people: I tried installing beep media player but everytime I try to play an mp3 it just freezes and I have to force it to quit09:34
Cryptidnalioth i wanted to delete tat dir so that i can do a fresh installation09:35
naliothMagicFab: you will never have to reinstall linux again09:35
deFryskMagicFab, just upgrade regurarly09:35
naliothMagicFab: apt-get will keep your box up to date09:35
bibeMagicFab : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade09:35
deFryskMagicFab, you lucky bastard :D09:35
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MagicFabnalioth: I know I don't have to reinstall but will the standard update manager bring me to RC1 ?09:35
thefootis there any info/howto get ubuntu to see winxp network shares?09:35
Cryptidnalioth, it isnt allowing meo install VMware again it says that VMware install detected09:35
naliothCryptid: i'm about to send you the most dangerous command known to linux. be careful using it09:35
FlangeRDoes anyone know what package I need to apt-get to run a java bin file?09:35
MagicFabapt-get update ? or apte-get upgrade...?09:35
deFryskMagicFab, of course and beyond09:35
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larsrohdinMagicFab, apt-get09:35
HappyFoolhmm, what is 'rm -d' supposed to do, anyway? according to the help, '-d, --directory       unlink FILE, even if it is a non-empty directory', but i can't get it to work09:35
MagicFabthefoot: install SMB to start09:36
Cryptidnalioth, K i will b09:36
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bibeapt-get update, then apt-get upgrade09:36
HappyFool!tell thefoot about samba09:36
naliothMagicFab: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will do09:36
NgFlangeR: as in the sun java .bin installer?09:36
CryptidHappyFool, i used rm -d but it was useless09:36
thefootthanks09:36
pupilHow do I check what ubuntu I'm using?09:36
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bibeuse sudo, and then (or, better, before doing that) man apt-get09:36
HappyFoolCryptid: you still haven't told us what you're trying to achieve ;)09:36
naliothHappyFool: if you read, it depends on 'unlink' in the kernel or something09:36
kbrooksMagicFab: RCs are not numbered09:36
MagicFabhow about updating a hoary system to 5.10RC1 ?09:36
kbrooksMagicFab: only one RC09:36
naliothHappyFool: he wants to remove a dir09:36
MagicFabhow is that accomplished ?09:36
HappyFoolnalioth: ah. i thought unlink was unix for delete09:36
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Cryptidnalioth, yipee it worked09:36
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naliothubotu: tell MagicFab about upgrade2breezy09:37
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zoot_hi, anyone here use XFCE? trying to get kiosk mode working (updated breezy)09:37
naliothMagicFab: ubotu has priv msg'd you09:37
pupilnalioth, how do I check to see what ubuntu I'm running?09:37
MagicFab*huge tx*09:37
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Davidleerothpupil, uname -a09:37
MagicFabpupil: from command line: uname -a I think will give you kernel info09:37
naliothpupil: open a terminal and type "lsb_release -a"09:37
naliothDavidleeroth: catch up, friend09:37
bibeMagicFab : sudo sed -i -e "s/hoary/breezy/g" /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:38
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MagicFaboh! lsb_release...09:38
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naliothMagicFab: lsb_release -a will tell you exactly what you've got09:38
FlangeRNg: Eeeeeh.... maybe? I'm trying to play a Triplea game (axis and allies), it's a game writtin in Java. All I have is this .bin file. The website says I need java, but Sun doesn't provide deb packages. Does this help?09:38
pupil5.10 the Breezy badger Release09:38
vbgunz_anyone know how Commercial Technical Support weighs in? I mean 250 for premium technical support... How long does that last? 1 year, 2 years, 3 years or more or less?09:38
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dmlinuxhey guys, i have to re install windows.... /sigh , when it installs , how do i make it so windows doesnt boot up automatically and Grub is recognized09:38
naliothubotu: tell FlangeR about javadeb09:38
HappyFoolvbgunz_: where do you see that?09:38
vbgunz_http://www.ubuntu.com/support/supportoptions/support/supportoptions/paidsupport/09:38
Skid!tell me about javadeb09:38
naliothdmlinux: you'll have to rebuild grub, cuz windows loves the taste of it09:38
pinucsetwindows fucks all the grub...09:38
Davidleerothhow is hoary pronounced?09:39
pinucsetthey dont know what to do xD09:39
NgFlangeR: see what ubotu just messaged you. thanks nalioth09:39
dmlinuxnalioth god damn windows09:39
vbgunz_Davidleeroth: I believe whore ree09:39
naliothpinucset: please watch the language09:39
FlangeRThanx, both!09:39
dmlinuxnalioth how do  i just repair windows then? its saying im missing a DLL09:39
pinucsetok, sorry ;)09:39
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naliothdmlinux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows09:39
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MagicFabanother unrelated question: How would I go about (re)presenting Ubuntu at local community/business events ?09:39
shinucevizoglu: sorry, i went off to cook dinner09:40
MagicFabI'd like to give out documentation, free CDs and have some sort of branding of a kiosk I would be using. Is this possible ?09:40
naliothMagicFab: order some CDs09:40
naliothMagicFab: join your local LUG09:40
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naliothMagicFab: shipit.ubuntu.com09:40
HappyFoolvbgunz_: it says 'Coverage: 1 year'09:40
shinucevizoglu: ubuntu doesnt automount the ipod for me but it does put it into disc mode.09:40
vbgunz_MgicFab: good question, I inquired in the channel about ubuntu certification and someone mentioned Ubuntu is thinking about it...09:40
shinucevizoglu: however, i just ejected it and the battery bar still doesnt seem to be charging09:40
MagicFabnalioth: done all that, just asking about using U' s trademark I guess, for example for backdrops etc.09:40
vbgunz_HappyFool, thank you... I know my idiocy is not at all perfect ;)09:40
cevizoglushinu: then the ipod still thinks ubuntu is using it09:41
naliothMagicFab: ask seveas when he shows up09:41
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zoot_reprise: any xfce users here?09:41
larsrohdinzoot_, hepp09:41
shinucevizoglu: anyway to get it charging maybe?09:41
MagicFabvbgunz_: there *is* certification in the works, it was announced recently I think (check the affiliates/partners program)09:41
larsrohdinzoot_, me09:41
zoot_larsrohdin: cool - used kiosk mode at all?09:41
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larsrohdinzoot_, nope.. sorry09:42
vbgunz_MagicFab, thank you , nice to know!09:42
zoot_need to restrict users from altering the panel etc09:42
cevizoglushinu: if the ipod is really unmounted, it will charge09:42
zoot_larsrohdin: thx09:42
hyperactivecrondis there a company that sells laptops with either (a) linux installed, or (b) no os installed09:42
Davidleerothhas anyone tried xpde? IMHO, i think it resembles winxp enough to even be acceptable09:42
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hyperactivecrondDavidleeroth: +109:42
Davidleerothhyperactivecrond, hp actually sells a linux laptop09:42
hyperactivecrondfor home use?09:42
Davidleerothyeah09:42
hyperactivecrondlike i cant buy for buisness09:42
hyperactivecrondDavidleeroth: model?09:42
vbgunz_XPDE I don't believe even grows anymore does it?09:42
Davidleerothwhat did you mean by +!?09:43
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ThirstehWhere does kernel-headers put the headerS?09:43
MagicFabvbgunz_:  http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/09:43
naliothDavidleeroth: you scored09:43
Thirstehnot in /usr/src/linux apparently09:43
shinucevizoglu: it isnt mounted in mtab and contrarily, it not charging but the battery is going empty really quickly09:43
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vbgunz_MagicFab, thank you I found it when you mentioned it ;)09:43
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HappyFoolThirsteh: linked from /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build09:43
shinucevizoglu: and i mean really quickly...09:43
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thefoothmm after installing Samba, looking at the Network > General Tab.  There is no check box for Windows Networking09:43
alex_hi, does anyone have an actiontec dsl router?09:43
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MagicFabubotu: how can I 'register' to send private messages ?09:43
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ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, MagicFab09:43
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logikal_well guys09:44
naliothMagicFab: /msg nickserv help register09:44
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pupilmy graphics card is capable of 1600 X 1200 yet,. I can only go up to 1280 .. how doI change this?09:44
kjbi have a problem, my kernel is created with gcc3.4 and now i wanna install a software, but i have an updated gcc4.0.209:44
logikal_every attempt i've made to install codes or mp3 support has failed.09:44
hyperactivecrond!register09:44
ubotuFreenode is being affected by spammers at present. This has meant that #ubuntu has had to be closed to unregistered users (for the moment).09:44
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HappyFoolthefoot: maybe system -> admin -> shared folders09:44
kjbnow i wanna make my kernel net09:44
ThirstehHappyFool, thanks09:44
naliothubotu: tell pupil about fixres09:44
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kjbwith make clone config09:44
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kjb/bin/sh: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9/scripts/gcc-version.sh: No such file or directory09:45
digis___:(09:45
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logikal_who wants to help me get my mp3s working?09:45
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vbgunz_I really don't think XPDE is a bad idea... I think it is awesome... To me it would just be another way to get people a bit more interested into Linux altogether... Although I themed my Gnome beautifully, I don't object to XPDE... I just heard it's either dying or it is dead... Haven't looked into it since :(09:45
Sieghi! sorry, I just made a stupid mistake of deleting all the stages in my grub directory... (thought I was on the CF... heh). Yes, very stupid, but anywhere I can dl them again? :) Tks09:45
naliothubotu: tell logikal_ about mp309:45
susokukan47ok, now i registered...09:45
thefootHappyFool:  that doesnt let me setup my windows settings though like domain name etc..09:45
logikal_!restricted09:46
ubotuhmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:46
pokkysany BMPx user here?09:46
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HappyFoolthefoot: hrm. you're following the wiki page, right?09:46
pokkysyes09:46
seifeWhy do i get this kind of msgs when i try to open anything?09:46
thefootHappyFool i sure am09:46
susokukan47i have an actiontec dsl modem and i can't get gaim to connect. after some tinkering with resolv.conf, firefox (and x-chat, obviously) work.....09:46
kjbcan someone help me with this kernel thing?09:46
pokkysbut X header miss09:46
seifeThe Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.09:46
seifeYou can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.09:46
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HappyFoolthefoot: standby...09:46
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ThirstehHappyFool, apparently, "kernel-headers" is not sufficient to install Vmware and build the kernel module it needs - how do I install the whole kernel source via apt-get - is it possible?09:47
ThirstehHappyFool, newest Hoary kernel09:47
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HappyFoolThirsteh: linux-source-2.6.1009:47
HappyFoolThirsteh: i presume you installed linux-headers-386 already?09:47
AnswerHello All.  I am looking for a VNC solution that is easy to install and configure from the command line please :)09:47
Thirstehahhhh09:48
hyperactivecrondanswer: xvnc?09:48
Thirstehit's LINUX-soure09:48
Thirstehsource09:48
Thirstehnot kernel-source... man what's WRONG with Canonical!09:48
Thirsteh:p09:48
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ThirstehThanks though HappyFool09:48
seifeThe Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.09:48
seifeWhy do i get this kind of msgs when i try to open anything?09:48
HappyFoolthefoot: hmm09:48
HappyFoolthefoot: the wiki is confusing09:49
squid0seife: i get that occasionally too...09:49
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Answerhyperactivecrond: is xvnc installed by default or what09:49
thefootHappyFool:  more like outdated09:49
seifesquid0, how u fix that?09:49
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seifeI dont want to reformat..09:49
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MagicFabok registered now09:50
hyperactivecrondAnswer: apt-get install xvnc09:50
MagicFabtx.09:50
seifehow do i install msttcorefonts.09:50
seife squid0 help09:50
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meuserj|workThirsteh, linux-source makes more since to me than kernel-source... since linux isn't the ONLY kernel09:50
Answerhyperactivecrond: any chance it's backwards compatible with redhat 9 and you know where the rpm is? heh09:50
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squid0seife: help? help???? ;)09:51
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HappyFoolthefoot: well, the alternative is to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf09:51
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HappyFoolthefoot: or, possibly easier, you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba'09:51
squid0seife: i don't know what the issue is.09:51
RossiHello09:51
benkong2is nvu not available for breezy?09:51
Skidhmm, is there such a  thing as a CLI nzb grabber?09:51
kbrooksbenkong2:09:52
naliothbenkong2: build it09:52
kbrooks!info nvu breezy09:52
ubotunvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB09:52
kbrooksnalioth: ^09:52
benkong2thanks09:52
naliothSkid: yes there are several09:52
kbrooksbenkong2: ^09:52
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naliothSkid: visit sourceforge.net and search for 'nzb"09:52
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squid0seife: nautilus is crashing. I imagine some process is crashing it, or it's getting overloaded with too much load. ??09:52
hyperactivecrondAnswer: www.rpmfind.net09:52
squid0hey kbrooks09:52
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Skidnalioth: yeah I have, all I see is QT GUI stuff09:52
kbrookssquid0: :P09:52
squid0:p yourself09:53
squid0;)09:53
Rossican anyone help me with installing nforce audio drivers?09:53
benkong2!nvu09:53
ubotu[nvu]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.09:53
logikal_nalioth, may i speak to you in om?09:53
naliothSkid: there are perl nzb things there, atoo09:53
cevizogluhow do I see which device in /dev/ is attached to a mounted volume in /media?09:53
logikal_pm09:53
HappyFoolcevizoglu: run 'mount' (no arguments)09:53
naliothlogikal_: join #kubuntu-offtopic09:53
Skidok thanks i'll have anoother look around09:53
seifesquid0, dunno man..09:53
hyperactivecronddoes Dell still do  "open source ready"?09:53
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seifei rebooted09:53
seifeand the problem persist09:53
squid0seife: what are you doing when this happens? ie. what triggers it?09:54
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lsuactiafnerRossi : dont install the audio drivers09:54
Thorondorhi, i've got some problems with my sound - music player, mplayer, etc work fine, but others like skype or teamspeak  do not work at all, i.e. i got neither input nor output - what devies/drivers do i have to fill in?09:55
lsuactiafnerRossi : the open source kernel drivers work much much better09:55
seifeI dont know09:55
seife):09:55
squid0seife: well, the first step to understanding what's going on is to record, or be aware of, what triggers the crash.09:55
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seifeHow do i install Multiverse repositories?09:56
daveddoes anyone know if there are good 2.6.12 kernel .deb's for ubuntu that include xen support?09:57
yassereven if just 10 % are active in here, it is far too much for one channel, or not (greetings from northern germany btw)?09:57
Alex_BOwhat's the name of the program that show a cow or a penguin on the shell?09:57
HappyFool!tell seife about repos09:57
squid0happyfool: synaptic loading up...09:57
thefootHappyFool: find anything?09:57
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anethemaonly 22mb of updates in breezy today09:58
anethemawhee09:58
HappyFoolthefoot: no, i checked if there was a gnome-samba package of some sort, but nothing09:58
squid0seife: in Synaptic: Settings -> Repositories09:58
HappyFoolthefoot: how computer-clueful are you?09:58
thefootHappyFool: windows based im very good09:58
thefootHappyFOol: linux....09:58
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squid0sife: yes? no?09:58
MagicFabupgrading hoary to breezy on a test system.... downloading 1086 packages!09:59
HappyFoolthefoot: for starters, try backing up /etc/samba/smb.conf and run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba'09:59
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MagicFabfortunately it's at 300kbps09:59
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thefoothow do i want to run Samaba? daemons or inetd10:00
KasperTechHi, why can't I make the FGLRX-driver work ?10:00
HappyFoolthefoot: oh, that doesn't do much10:00
KasperTechI'm only able to use the ATI-driver :S:S:10:00
kbrooksMagicFab: 34.6 kb/s -- updating package info10:00
HappyFoolthefoot: the reconfigure is a bit useless, sorry10:00
HappyFoolthefoot: choose 'daemons'10:00
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thefootHappy:  Done. Now what? :)10:00
KasperTechAnd the ATI-driver can't even make TuxRacer run alright :S?10:01
HappyFoolthefoot: unfortunately you'll have to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf10:01
seifeman10:01
seifethats nott he prob10:01
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seifei have all the repositories installed10:01
HappyFoolthefoot: 'sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf' (or 'gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf' if your prefer a GUI editor)10:01
benkong2!java10:01
ubotujava is, like, to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java10:01
seifeAnd i still dont find the msttcorefonts package, sigh10:01
squid0seife: are you sure you're spelling it right?10:02
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naliothbenkong2: you need java?10:02
squid0seife: check out the Unofficial guide.10:02
elcuco_hi, i have installed ubuntu 5.04, and i am upgrading it to 5.10.10:02
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seifeman fuck this, ill reinstall10:02
seifemy ubuntu fucked up10:02
seifei dont see the windows on the taskbar10:03
elcuco_i have some problems with my music cd. it seems it does not want to play any music10:03
seifethe low bar10:03
naliothseife: language please. reinstalling isnt necessary10:03
squid0I've installed java on my system, but how do I make sure that PATH includes the path to java always?10:03
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seifethen i cant open up my audio folder10:03
seifeit is..10:03
naliothsquid0: how did you install it?10:03
HappyFoolthefoot: i must be off now, sorry. the wiki page is a bit useless; you can try www.samba.org -- they have lots of docs, including 'howtos' for various usage scenarios10:03
MagicFabseife: try creating a new user10:03
squid0sife: yes, language, please. keep calm and people will try to help you10:03
MagicFaband login as that user10:03
seifeThe Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.10:03
seifeYou can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.10:03
seifeok ill try that.10:03
squid0nalioth: i used the jdk install from the Sun java site10:04
seifecreating a new user deletes all the other stuff of other users?10:04
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naliothsquid0: the wiki should mention how to set the $PATH for it10:04
naliothseife: not it does not10:04
zeus1_When does ubuntu breezy final get released10:04
seifei cant open any folder10:04
naliothzeus1_: oct 1310:04
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seifei dont see stuff on the low bar10:04
zeus1_Final? not a beta?10:04
kbrookszeus1_: yes10:05
seifei cant get msttcorefonts10:05
zeus1_does breezy have good wireless support10:05
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seifei cant do anythin10:05
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kbrooksubotu: tell seife about repos10:05
naliothseife open a terminal10:05
squid0nalioth: i'll check, but I've seen a few places on the web like 'export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/java/bin:.'10:05
thefootHappy:  All done now what10:05
squid0but that is only temporary10:05
naliothsquid0: that will work in your .bashrc10:05
squid0nalioth: ah. where is that?10:05
kbrooks~10:05
squid0thanks10:06
kbrooks /home/user/10:06
KasperTechPlease, anyone?10:06
naliothsquid0: /home/squid0/.bashrc10:06
squid0ok10:06
Thorondori've got some problems with my sound - music player, mplayer, etc work fine, but other apps like skype or teamspeak  do not work at all, i.e. i got neither input nor output - what devices/drivers do i have to set in the options?10:06
kbrooksnalioth: i told him already :)10:06
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naliothkbrooks: i cant take it back when i hit 'enter'10:06
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yassercan someone tell me, how much "the boss" pays for one CD of the Ubuntu-ShipIt?10:06
naliothkbrooks: lag sucks10:06
kbrooksnalioth: ah10:06
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poningruKasperTech: whats wrong?10:07
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KasperTechponingru: I've got the ATI-driver working on my ATI Radeon X60010:07
KasperTechBut it sucks.10:07
thefoothow do i stop and restart samba?10:07
KasperTechSo I want to get a better driver, that's able to run Tuxracer e.g.10:07
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poningruoh hold on10:07
lorenzodthefoot: /etc/init.d/samba restart10:07
poningruhave you looked at the ati wiki page10:07
KasperTechI've tried the FGLRX already.10:08
KasperTechYes.10:08
lorenzodHm.. that is sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart10:08
poningrudidnt work?10:08
thefootlorenzod: i'm runing it as a deamon10:08
KasperTechNope, didn't work.10:08
KasperTechI got a turned-off screen. :S10:08
poningruooph10:08
rBo3DbHas anyone else seen problems connecting Evolution to pop.gmail.com?.. (breezy)10:08
poningruyeah dont thing you have a solution then dude10:08
thefootloren:  thanks10:08
lorenzodthefoot: what I said should work.10:08
poningruKasperTech: the problem is dude that ATI support for linux is pretty bad10:08
pupilwhere do I edit to add the resolution setting for ?10:08
poningruwhen compared to nvidia etc.10:09
zeus1_does breezy have good wireless internet support?10:09
naliothubotu: tell pupil about fixres10:09
pupilI need  to add 1600 x 120010:09
KasperTechponingru: I know, but there must be something that makes my x600 run tuxraver :( ??10:09
pupilI am at the fixres thing10:09
lorenzodthefoot: otherwise, kill -HUP <samba-PID>10:09
naliothpupil: ubotu privmsg'd you10:09
ompaul!tell zeus1_ about wireless10:09
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pupilnalioth, but it says its for Hoary,. not Breezy10:09
poningruKasperTech: I am assuming you have googled the issue10:09
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rBo3DbHas anyone else seen problems connecting Evolution to pop.gmail.com?.. (breezy)10:09
KasperTechponingru: of course.10:09
pupilnalioth,  I am using breezy10:09
poningruKasperTech: apart from that I have no clue dude sorry10:09
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KasperTechDammit.10:10
zeus1_ompaul I already looked on there...my cards not even displayed on that page10:10
naliothpupil: it's the same process10:10
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pupilI'll read it anyway10:10
pupiloh,. ok10:10
zeus1_tell me if u can find a DWL-AG530 card on there plz10:10
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squid0nalioth, kbrooks: works great.10:10
poningruKasperTech: wait till breazy comes out10:10
naliothrBo3Db: wait 5 minutes b4 you repeat the same question10:10
KasperTechponingru: What'll that do?10:10
rBo3Dbnalioth ok10:10
poningruKasperTech: because x was modularized and so trying different driver will not crash X10:10
poningruand lots of driver work went into it as well10:11
ompaul!tell zeus1_ about ndiswrapper10:11
poningruso hopefully one of the new fixes is about your particular ati10:11
KasperTechponingru: okay, so when will I get the wanted effect :o?10:11
KasperTechYea.10:11
poningruKasperTech: a week from now10:11
poningruoct 1310:11
tristanmikerBo3Db, I'm using Hoary and I just check, doesn't look like there is a problem, of course, I don't get much email, :(10:11
poningruor download the RC10:11
poningrureleased already10:11
KasperTechOkay... till then I think it'll do.10:11
poningruyeah sorry dude10:12
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KasperTechNP, thanks for trying though,10:12
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rBo3Dbtristanmike, on hoary it worked well for me... not on breezy...10:12
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pupilhow the heck am i supposed to know my videlo cards BUS identifier?10:12
SogniXhello! can anyone tell me the best / easiest way to import contacts from OS X's addressbook (different computer)10:13
SogniXinto Evolution10:13
pupilnalioth, This thing is asking me for video car's bus identifier,. I have no idea10:13
tristanmikerBo3Db, sorry couldn't help you out, Breezy's not offical, so I stay away :)10:13
naliothrBo3Db: there are lots of things that dont work yet on breezy (it's not finished)10:13
poningrunalioth: I hope you are not serious cause its a week away10:14
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rBo3Dbyeah i know... just want to check if there's another unhappy chap..'10:14
naliothponingru: i'm afraid i am10:14
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thefootdo i setup authentication, like the username/pw, in smb.conf?10:15
pupilCan anyone tell me where I find my Video Card's bus Identiier?10:15
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thefootright now i'm mounting and it's saying access denied10:15
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linuxboyany screenshots of hoary rc ?10:17
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pupilwhat is 32 mb in kb ?10:17
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shadeofgreyis it possible to run superkaramba with ubuntu?10:18
shadeofgreyid really like to make my ubuntu installation to behave like an OSX box...10:18
poningrushadeofgrey: yes I believe so look in the repositories10:19
poningruI believe its in univ/multiv10:19
hyperactivecrondwhere do you get string?10:19
poningru!superkaramba10:19
ubotuSuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org10:19
shadeofgreyokay...  does anybody know how to actually install it and then add the components that make the linux desktop look like aqua?10:20
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shadeofgreyugh!  id have to install kde??10:20
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linuxboypupil: 32,76810:20
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LaptopZZis the amd64 debian pure64 or multiarxch10:21
poningrushadeofgrey: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6271310:21
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poningrushadeofgrey: no you can install just the prog10:21
poningruofcourse you have to install the libs10:22
poningrubut this is all done within 5 or 6 clicks10:22
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poningruand password entry10:22
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AnswerWho was telling me about Xvnc before?  I need to get Display 0 (Zero) thru VNC please10:24
protok0lhow do i set up a joystick?10:24
zeus1_what a bunch of bs..no internet! theres no internet! i cant connect to the internet! wireless is too hard to set up! !!!10:24
KaparenI got big problems getting my NVIDIA drivers to work, Ive tried updating them with Synaptic, Ive updated tehm manually btu I always end up with what I think is a (EE)NVIDIA(0)FAiled to load the NVIDIA kernel module. any suggestions?10:24
Answerhyperactivecrond: do you know how to get display zero thru vnc?10:24
LokeDKI've just upgraded to breezy, but I can't compile the nvidia driver.. first of all it complains about that I have a different gcc version than the one the kernel was compiled with - 2nd, if i ignore that, it builds and after that it complains about something with wrong kernel-headers.. and nvidia.ko10:24
linuxboyLokeDK: you installed the nvidia package?10:25
LokeDKI have installed the new linux headers and maked an ln -s linux-headers-$(uname -r) linux10:25
LokeDKno10:25
poningruLokeDK: why not just use the apt one10:25
LokeDKi use.. from their website10:25
LokeDKdunno10:25
LokeDK:D10:25
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linuxboyLokeDK: there is an ubuntu package for the drivers10:25
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LokeDKoh okay.. what's the name of the package?10:25
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LokeDKI've always used from the website since i started on linux10:25
AnswerLokeDK: You should remove whatever you did so far...10:26
linuxboyLokeDK: search the forums10:26
poningruLokeDK: tsk tsk tsk10:26
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poningruLokeDK: open up synaptic10:26
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AnswerLokeDK: nvidia-glx10:26
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poningruand search for nvidia-glx10:26
poningruyeah that10:26
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LokeDKthx10:26
Answerthere is also nvidia-settings10:26
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MikeStyleanyone know how i can customize my taskbar like making it rounded, transparent but kinda blurry see through10:27
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Thorondorhow do i know which sound device i have to use such that teamspeak, skype etc work?10:27
linuxboyponingru: isn't it in restricted?10:27
AnswerMikeStyle: You could write an entire theme :)10:27
FarrisGAnyone have a guess as to why it takes so long for totem to start up?10:27
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MikeStyleAnswer, not that skilled :)10:27
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Kaparenwhat are kernel headers?10:27
GDornFarrisG:  because totem is not so good.10:27
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LokeDKbrb fellas.. restarting X10:27
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Answerlinuxboy:  nvidia-glx is in Miscellaneous - Graphical (restricted)10:28
Seveasmdz, was already in the topic :)10:28
linuxboyAnswer: you're talking hoary or breezy?10:28
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AnswerAnybody know how to get display zero thru vnc? :)10:28
poningrulinuxboy: ?10:28
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FarrisGGDorn: Not an explanation here. It takes about 30 seconds to start up as a normal user, but as root it will start up almost instantaneously10:29
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MikeStyleguys, im trying to get my bottom taskbar to look like the one in this pic "http://kde-look.org/content/pre1/6384-1.jpg" but im not sure how10:29
Cryptidnalioth, how do i check my linux kernel10:29
LokeDKThanks a lot, it worked10:29
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stratigmhello all10:30
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AnswerMikeStyle: Use kde and download all the themes10:30
SeveasCryptid, uname -a10:30
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MikeStyleAnswer, i do use kde and i have a bunch of themes, but that part of the taskbar is custom10:30
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MikeStyleim using kde 3.5 and ubuntu 5.1010:30
ompaulAnswer, you are asking for it :)10:30
kbrookslol.10:30
Answerompaul: I am asking for a way to see Display Zero thru a VNC Client.10:30
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Zukerohi10:31
FarrisGAnswer: What do you mean by Display Zero?10:31
FarrisGAnswer: You mean like vino does? Sort of a remote desktop type thing?10:31
AnswerFarrisG: I mean most VNC servers spawn a new display as in Display 1.  I want display zero10:31
zeus1_does wireless internet work with DWL-AG530 wireless network cards???10:31
zeus1_on ubuntu10:31
stratigmi installed ubuntu 5.10 and i have a problem. i cant see any devices with ls /dev10:31
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Answer!tell zeus1_ about HardwareSupport10:31
Answerdang what is hardware support10:31
linuxboystratigm: that is a problem10:31
FarrisGAnswer: Display 0 is usually the display on the console10:31
Zukerohow can I install dhcpcd on ubuntu on a computer without current connection, aka with another connected comp and usb key10:32
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stratigmlol10:32
ompaulAnswer, so knock off 0 as a getty10:32
kjbhow can i get under ubuntu the right kernel-headers to the right gcc-version? mine are not kompatibel10:32
mdzSeveas: didn't see it way up there at the beginning ;-)10:32
Answerompaul: How do I "knock off 0 as a getty"10:32
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Answer!tell zeus1_ about hardware10:32
kjbhttp://pastebin.com/38545510:33
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stratigmcome on! i mean my hard disk is mounted at /dev/hda2 but there is nothing in /dev !10:33
Somazxdoes dpkg-buildpackage check for security updates before configuring and building?10:33
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daveoanyone else having difficulty with Evolution since yesterday'10:34
zeus1_that doesnt help u kno why because my network card isnt listed on there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!111111110:34
tristanmikezeus1_, you risk being banned for actions like that10:34
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naliothzeus1_: are you having keyboard problems?10:35
zeus1_i dont want to get baned10:35
diplozeus1_ : I've used DLink wireless cards with 5.10 and was supported from install10:35
diploNot sure on specific cards10:35
zeus1_the ag530 im having trouble with10:35
zeus1_lots and lots of trouble10:35
AnswerHow to un-rm ?10:35
naliothzeus1_: then watch your keyboard repeat rate10:35
poningru!wifi10:35
uboturumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto10:35
LokeDKIs Breezy based on debian etch? since /etc/debian_version says testing/unstable10:35
poningruAnswer: hehe not possible10:35
naliothAnswer: you don't un-rm10:35
lorenzoddaveo: no10:36
AnswerHow to un-delete ?10:36
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poningruAnswer: not possible10:36
naliothAnswer: you dont10:36
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daveocan't get Evolution to start since yesterday's upgrade10:36
poningruAnswer: dude move stuff to .Trash from now on10:36
AnswerSo if somebody says they undeleted something in the past, they are lying?  or are the other ways10:36
lorenzoddaveo: Any error messages when you start?10:36
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ompaul Answer they used the trash can as a staging post to deletion10:37
daveolorenzod: nothing just fails immediately after starting before the complete screen is drawn10:37
zeus1_i think thats bs..10:37
ompaulAnswer, seems I was a tad optimistic about that 010:37
daveolorenzod: I did have a bit of trouble with a folder yesterday so I'm wondering if I have a corrupt file or something10:37
lorenzoddaveo: try running from a terminal and see what happens.10:37
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ompaulzeus1_,  what is?10:38
zeus1_im wayyyy too experienced a linux user to need that crap man10:38
lorenzoddaveo: could well be.10:38
zeus1_jk10:38
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zblachhi10:38
daveolorenzod: do you know of anyway to repair a corrupt folder in Evolution??10:38
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lorenzoddaveo: not really. never had to do it so..10:38
zeus1_can anyone help me set up wireless internet lol10:38
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pupildoes ubuntu come with an emulator for windows applications?10:38
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Answerpupil: see wine or cedega10:39
ompaulpupil, why not look for the alternatives?10:39
pupilAnswer, are these applications already on the system?10:39
bz0bhey guys10:39
Answerpupil: probably not.  see synaptic10:39
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pupilompaul, I would,. but my wife insists on using a mail application called10:39
ompaulcedega costs money10:39
pupilfirst class10:40
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bz0bompaul actually there is a free version10:40
daveolorenzod: I've never had any problem before either.10:40
fenarcedega cvs is free10:40
bz0byeah'10:40
zblachI have multiple partitions for storing stuff. Dual boot and all, i keep all my files except my OSs on Fat32. Since my recent reformat, I've not been able to write to these drives. how to remedy?10:40
daveozeus1_: what card are you using?10:40
ompaulahh10:40
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zeus1_daveo : DWL-AG53010:40
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GoodSoftI have a question: can i set language for different application independently? For example: all system is working in russian, but XMMS - in English/10:40
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daveozeus1_: should probably work if you use ndiswrapper10:41
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FraeonGoodSoft, why'd you want to do that?10:41
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zblachand I can't sudo chmod +rwx these drives either10:41
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zeus1_daveo: I have absolutly NO clue AT ALL how to use ndiswrapper I Followed the guide on the wiki it confused the hell out of me and im upset now : /10:41
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GoodSoftFraeon: because I can't set up a font in XMMS, so it shows only some set of symbols10:42
hyperactivecrond!string10:42
ubotuWish i knew, hyperactivecrond10:42
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TiMiDohey people10:42
TiMiDowuz up10:42
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daveozeus1_: I know what you mean. ndiswrapper basically lets you use a Win driver because there is no linux driver10:42
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daveozeus1_: what version of Ubuntu are you using?10:42
carthikzeus1_, a search shows that the madwifi driver should be the one youre lookng for :http://users.linpro.no/janl/hardware/wifi.html10:43
avalostanyone figure out what you need to do to override the ubuntu logo on the applcations menu in gnome with the newer releases?10:43
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zblachis there any way to add write access to Fat32 partitions?10:44
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TiMiDoavalost changed the theme,10:44
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TiMiDozblach yeah man mount or nano /etc/fstab10:44
naliothubotu: tell zblach about windowsdrives10:44
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avalostTiMiDo, I have a custom theme installed, and have switched icon path everywhere I could think of10:44
Kaparenhow do you update kernel?10:44
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carthikzblach, you can change permissions after mounting too : chmod 777 /mnt/windows ?10:45
poningruKaparen: it does it for you10:45
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TiMiDoKaparen sudo apt-cache search kernel-image10:45
avalostKaparen, grab the latest linux-image2.6.9.blah10:45
monstahwhy can't i use any other resolution in Gnome than 1024x768 when my monitor can do 1280x800 in Windows?10:45
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Answermonstah:  fixres10:45
zblachcarthik, that doesn't seem to work10:45
poningru!tell monstah about fixres10:45
monstahAnswer: how?10:45
GoodSoftroot@ns:/home/paul# fixres10:45
GoodSoftbash: fixres: command not found10:45
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TiMiDoGoodSoft do apt-get install fixres10:46
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poningrumonstah: dude did you not see what I showed you?10:46
bz0bwhen is the final release of 5.10 out?10:46
carthikzblach, tried this? http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountfat : after you make the changes, remount the drive once10:46
poningrubz0b: oct 1310:46
Kaparenthanks for the help...trying it now.10:46
monstahponingru: no?10:46
TiMiDoKaparen np10:46
bz0bponingru: thanks10:46
poningru!tell monstah about fixres10:46
GoodSoftTiMiDo: Can't find package fixres10:46
poningrudid you not get that message from ubotu?10:46
monstahnow i got it :)10:47
monstahthanx10:47
poningrunp10:47
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poningru!tell GoodSoft about fixres10:47
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poningruum10:49
poningruanyone need help?10:49
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Dr_Willis??10:49
NaunaudHello10:49
pablo_hi everybody10:49
Dr_Willishowdies10:49
poningruHi Dr. Pablo10:49
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Somazxyes - what all does dpkg-buildpackage do10:49
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Dr_Willisi need to get 5.10 ppc working on my imacdv.. it started to install then poped up some error.. dident have time to look into it.10:50
Dr_Willis:(10:50
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NaunaudOMG 570 personns here10:50
poningruyou sure you are using the ppc cd?10:50
poningrunot another arch?10:51
Ruffleshi. i've got problem with ubuntu concerning the sound which doesn't  work, it's just mute i can't hear anything10:51
pablo_I don't know if I can ask a hardware question here...10:51
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Dr_Willisponingru,  yes.. :P it started to install and copy over the packages.. then failed10:51
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poningruDr_Willis: also make srue that the cd wasnt corrupt10:51
poningrusure*10:51
Ruffleseven though xmms seems to be working but with no sound10:51
Dr_Willisyea.. thats the next thing to check..10:51
poningrudid you burn it?10:51
Dr_Willisyes i did.10:51
crimsunRuffles: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:51
naliothpablo_: ask the channel your question10:51
poningruyeah def try another cd10:51
Dr_Willisdownloaded it yesterday.10:51
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frank23!tell Ruffles about sound10:52
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pablo_has anybody a canon i250 working with hoary???10:52
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pablo_I think I have read everything in the net about that but I couldn't find any solution yet... :(10:53
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Rufflescrimsun: what do you mean?10:53
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crimsunRuffles: open a Terminal, type amixer, paste all that output onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:53
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Rufflesoh10:54
Rufflesok10:54
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Rufflesthankx crimsun10:54
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afrankeis there anybody able to help me about shipit here?10:54
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poningruafranke: whats the prob10:54
apokryphosafranke: it's best to just ask your question10:54
afrankeok10:55
naliothafranke: ask your question10:55
kennethloveanyone know how i can configure the extra buttons on my mouse?10:55
TiMiDokenneth sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:55
afrankeso I'm a Computer science student and I'm also the president of an association at my school10:55
kennethloveTiMiDo: k, thanks.10:55
afrankeand I need a large amount of cd's10:55
apokryphosafranke: email canonical10:55
kbrooksapokryphos: shipit can do it10:56
afrankeinfo@shipit.ubuntu.com ?10:56
kbrookscanonical does it all for free10:56
apokryphoskbrooks: for *large* amounts it's best to email10:56
avalostok, i've tried smeg, and gconf, still unable to change the ubuntu logo in my gnome menu, anyone have a workaround?10:56
kbrooksapokryphos: why10:56
afrankebut the real matter is I need them to be shipped as fast as possible10:56
apokryphoskbrooks: because you can't order more than 10 at once10:56
poningruafranke: yeah email them saying that10:57
crimsunRuffles: give me the url when you're done10:57
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afrankewhat is considered *large* by the shipit system ?10:57
poningruapokryphos: says who?10:57
kbrooksapokryphos: what is the point of the restriction?10:57
ompaulyou can order any amount you want10:57
Chousukeafranke: hundred+? :P10:57
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apokryphosponingru: that's what it was last time I checked10:57
kbrooksompaul: prove it10:57
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LokeDKerr. nautilus --browser .. what happened to the address line?10:57
poningruum dont think so10:57
poningruhold on let me check10:57
ompaulI looked for 100 on the shipit page - it is a 'special order'10:58
holycowjim *backo*10:58
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tristanmikethey have choices now, yeah, and the "special order" too10:58
afrankefor 5.04 I ordered 25 x86 cds :)10:58
ompaulyou have to define why you want that many10:58
apokryphosaha, it has indeed changed10:58
ChousukeI placed an order a while ago for some PPC and x86 cds10:58
tristanmikeit's really nice now10:58
apokryphosmuch better system; no need for the email10:58
ChousukeI guess they'll be Breezy10:58
ompaulapokryphos, say thank you people :)10:59
tristanmikelol10:59
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fenarhow much cost 1 ubuntu?10:59
afrankeChousuke: no I got them :)10:59
tristanmikefenar, free10:59
tristanmikefenar, even shipping10:59
apokryphosompaul: lalala lala :P10:59
poningrufenar: you can download it as much as you want10:59
ompaulapokryphos, take your fingers out of your ears10:59
naliothafranke: if you have what you consider a large request, you can email them and discuss it10:59
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fenarhave they nice box?10:59
apokryphosback later10:59
afrankenalioth: k thx11:00
Chousukefenar: in fact, please order as many as you need and give to your friends.11:00
pablo_thank you all11:00
pablo_bye11:00
fenarChousuke i can sell it11:00
Chousukefenar: yes.11:00
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fenar1000 x 1$ = 1000$11:00
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afrankewhat will you do with the money ?11:00
ChousukeI don't think they'll send you that many easily.11:00
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frank23fenar: you won't get 1000 for free with no good reason11:01
Dr_Willisi want to wallpaper my house with Ubuntu Cd's :P11:01
Seveasfenar, only locoteams get that many11:01
Chousukefenar: You shouldn't sell them anyway.11:01
tristanmikelol @ Dr_Willis11:01
franksave xp discs for that11:01
ChousukeBut you're free to, if you really want.11:02
frank23and you'd be screwing over people you are selling to since anyone can get it for free11:02
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[LethAL] Dr_Willis, A better use would be installing them11:02
Rufflescrabstic: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/283311:02
Dr_Willis[LethAL] ,  ive allredy given out copies to several friends. :P11:02
guidanhow to install wine?11:02
franki wasted $200 on my xp disc11:02
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afrankethx y'all, see ya11:02
Rufflescrimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/283311:02
pupilWhen i attempt to run wineCVS.sh, the install stops,. I think its because I'm not running it in root11:02
frankwine is only good for games.  office sucks.11:02
kbrooksfrank: TWO HUNDRED?!?11:03
pupilcan anyone asssist with this?11:03
Rufflescrabstic: i'm sorry wrong person11:03
franksure11:03
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frank23guidan: use synaptic11:03
kbrookspupil: i doubt anyone can11:03
frankdid you try with apt first?11:03
frank23guidan: enable the universe repository if you haven't already11:03
guidanfrank23: i cant find that in system11:03
guidanwhere can i find it?11:03
Dr_Willisif you think that pupil  why not run it as root then.. or just 'apt-get install wine' ?11:03
frank23guidan: wine is only on x86, also11:03
pupilhmm11:03
pupilDr_Willis, indeed11:03
Chousukepupil: use sudo? :p11:04
pupilwould'nt I have to use sudo11:04
frank23!repositories11:04
pupilright11:04
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))11:04
frankwine is not a computer emulator, it just a link to windows api11:04
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Kaparenwhen I 'sudo nvidia-glx-config' enable Ubuntu tells me that 'Error: your X configuration has been altered. This script cannot proceed automatically.' what should I do?11:05
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frankis there a list of mirrors for ubuntu packages that can be used with apt-spy11:05
TiMiDofrank apt-setup11:05
crimsunRuffles: amixer sset 'IEC958' off11:05
frank23Kaparen: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually11:05
[LethAL] Kaparen, and change nv to nvidia11:05
frank23Kaparen: change driver "nv" to "nvidia"11:05
[LethAL] ^^11:06
pupilE: Package wine has no installation candidate11:06
[LethAL] !wine11:06
[LethAL] oops11:06
[LethAL] !info wine11:06
ubotuwine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB11:06
poningruwtf11:06
[LethAL] pupil, Enable universe11:06
Kaparenfrank23: ah ok then it's already been done but Ubuntu still won't work 'NVIDIA failed to load kernel module'11:07
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pupilI have no idea how to do that.11:07
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nightswim:>11:07
pupil[LethAL] , I have no idea how to do that.11:07
frank23Kaparen: how did you install the nvidia drivers?11:07
crimsun!tell pupil about repos11:07
poningrupupil: go to synaptic11:07
Dr_Willisthis is when a good reading of the ubuntu wikis comes in handy. :P11:07
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zeus1_Anyone can help me set up ndiswrapper for DWL-AG530 wireless cards?11:07
Kaparenfrank23: I've tried both manually like in the Wiki doc's and Synaptic11:08
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poningrupress settings->repositories11:08
frank23Kaparen: did you install nvidia-glx, then?11:08
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jocke1swhats this about: Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library11:09
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Rufflescrimsun: thanks11:09
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Rufflescrimsun: but it ain't workin' yet11:09
jocke1sIts starting to irritate me :)11:09
Ruffles:|11:09
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pupilWine is not in S ynaptic11:10
frankpupil: do you have access to sudo or the root password?11:10
pupilsudo yes11:10
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pupilfrank, sudo11:10
rumohi11:10
[LethAL] Does anyone know why artwiz-cursor won't install on breezy?11:10
Kaparenfrank23: Nvidia-glx Version 1.0.717411:11
frank/etc/apt/sources.list is the list of servers you download from11:11
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kahuna_Hi.11:11
jocke1sshould LC_CTYPE LS_MESSAGES LC_ALL have any values ?11:12
etnoydoes anybody know the status of hibernating w/ nvidia drivers?11:12
jocke1swhen doing locale11:12
kahuna_Is there a way to track the source packages that I build in apt?11:12
frankif you type (without quotes) "man sources.list" into a terminal, you will find out about it.11:12
frank23Kaparen: I'm not sure what the problem is....11:12
naliothkahuna_: you are using the source pkgs from the repos? or building your own?11:12
kahuna_my own11:12
Kaparenfrank23: when I check the Nvidia log I see this problem: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)11:12
kahuna_I faintly remember doing something like that when I used debain a few years back...11:13
naliothkahuna_: then you should read the debian maintainers guide (left side of debian.org)11:13
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kahuna_thanks for the pointer11:13
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jocke1sanyone? Anyone swedish here who can paste his /etc/environment file ?11:14
esacis there a screen reader for pdf files ?11:15
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crimsunRuffles: so no sounds work?11:15
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naliothesac: you mean in the terminal?11:15
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guidanfrank23: frank when i use apt-get install wine it says wine is already the newest version11:15
guidandoes that mean i have it install laready?11:15
guidanallready*11:15
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Kaparenjockels: LANGUAGE="en_SE:en"11:16
KaparenLANG=en_US.UTF-811:16
rumohi, is there anyone who can tell me how to install the sane-genesys backend? its not in the standard hoary/breezy debian-package11:16
frankyes, but you may have to configure it still.11:16
esacnalioth: terminal , or simply open a pdf file and have the computer speak it to you11:16
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guidanfrank. how?11:16
guidanis there a site that shows me11:16
naliothesac: i dont think so on either11:16
grndslmhey guys...i just tried to change somebody's username/home dir to another name....but now when i restart it, no username & pass will let me login...what do i do?11:16
pupilSynaptic does not list wine or cedega11:16
guidanor guide me11:16
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Seveaspupil, wine is in multiverse11:17
frankI don't think cedega is in any repository11:17
frank23pupil: you need universe enabled, then do a reload, then wine will be available if you run x8611:17
frankguidan, try winesetuptk11:17
Dreamgliderhow can i access (for read only) my WinXP disk from ubuntu ?11:17
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frankfull setup program11:17
pupilohh, ok11:17
frank23pupil: cedega is proprietary11:17
naliothubotu: tell Dreamglider about ntfs11:17
pupilic11:17
Kaparenok. Il guess i have to reinstall and if that doesnt help change dist. A reinstall will probably fix things. Thansk for your help Frank2311:17
pupilHow do I enable universe?11:17
frankmount the winxp as either ntfs or fat3211:17
naliothubotu: tell frank about ntfs11:18
naliothubotu: tell pupil about repos11:18
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frank23Kaparen: I didn't help much...11:18
nalioth!botsnack11:18
ubotu:)11:18
Dr_Willisubotu: tell the world of the greatness of linux11:18
grndslmhahah11:18
Kaparenhehe but you tried11:18
Kaparengood night all11:18
Dr_Willis<ubotu> No, dr_willis, I won't. (target invalid?)11:18
Dr_Willis:(11:18
pupilfrank23, the link is not working,.11:18
pupiltry it for yourself11:18
pupilubotu, tell nlioth about repos11:19
frank23pupil: what link?11:19
grndslmhey guys...i just tried to change somebody's username/home dir to another name....but now when i restart it, no username & pass will let me login...what do i do?11:19
pupilall of them11:19
pupilhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:19
Dreamglidercan i get skype for ubuntu ?11:19
frank23pupil: that one works11:19
pupilno it doesn11:19
pupildoesn't11:19
Dr_Willisworks for me11:19
pupilIt does not open for me11:19
frank echo -e "\ndeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted" >> /etc/apt/sources.list11:20
Dr_Willisand thats our problem? :P11:20
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Dr_Willistry reloading the page.. try a different browser11:20
frank23pupil: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto  this one?11:20
franksudo echo -e "\ndeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted" >> /etc/apt/sources.list11:20
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zblachhi. I can't seem to change the permissions of my fat32 parts. how can I?11:20
Dr_Willisyou got 2 //'s in there.. but it works..11:20
zblach<<breezy11:20
frank23Dr_Willis: the 2 // are there in Konqueror11:21
Dr_Williszblach,  when youmount them - youmust use the 'umask' option normally to set the permissions the whole mount point will have11:21
crimsunzblach: did you pass umask=022 to mount?11:21
pupilbash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied11:21
zblachcrimsun, i need full access. umask=000?11:21
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grndslmsorry, but can somebody help me???  i just tried to change somebody's username/home dir to another name....but now when i get to gdm, no username & pass will let me login...what do i do?11:21
crimsunzblach: full access for your user is granted with 02211:21
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frank23pupil: what did you try to do?11:22
pupilI only have one browser,. which browser woul d you suggest11:22
Dr_WillisI normally use firefox.. and some times Opera11:22
franktext browser: w3m     or GUI: firefox11:23
pupilfrank23, I tried to open the url that aws given to me by ubuto11:23
poningrupupil: firefox is the best imho11:23
[LethAL] I'd suggest Firefox for Gnome :-)11:23
pupilbut it won't open11:23
pupilI am using mozilla11:23
[LethAL] pupil, Righ-click the url11:23
[LethAL] Right*11:23
pupil[LethAL] , I did11:23
frankanyone here use the mtr tracerouting tool?11:23
[LethAL] Hmm11:23
[LethAL] Nope11:23
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zblachcrimsun, did that, and the octal permissions are still rwxrxrx11:23
frank23pupil: start from here, maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/11:23
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Dreamglideronce i have downloaded skype.deb how do i install/compile it ?11:24
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frankpupil may not be able to get to the site because it realizes on ssl11:24
crimsunzblach: that's not enougH?11:24
grndslmcan somebody help me with setting user/group permissions??11:24
guidanfrank23: wine it allow  u to run win32 program right?11:24
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zblachcrimsun, no. i'm getting write errors _all_the_time11:24
Zukerohow can I install dhcpcd on ubuntu on a computer without current connection, aka with another connected comp and usb key11:24
frank23Dreamglider: sudo dpgk -i skypefilename.deb11:24
frankgrndslm: for linux?11:24
zblachlike 'permission denied' errors11:24
grndslmfrank, yup11:24
pupilI have opened wiki.ubuntu.com site beforfe, but for some reason,. I can't get to it now11:25
frank23Dreamglider: sudo dpkg -i skypefilename.deb sorry11:25
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grndslmfrank, i just tried to change somebody's username/home dir to another name....but now when i get to gdm, no username & pass will let me login...what do i do?11:25
Zukeroformat ?11:25
_jasonhi is there an alternative to the evolution calendar that will integrate well like evolution does on the gnome panel?11:25
frankswitch to a virtual console (Ctrl-Alt-F1)11:25
Dr_Willisboot to single user mode and set their password correctly.. perhaps.11:25
franklogin in as root11:26
Zukero_jason : any of them11:26
zeus1_daveo: i am using hoary 5.0411:26
grndslmfrank, i'm using a livecd as i can't log into anything directly from the harddrive11:26
[A] ndy80I have a problem with a fresh install of ubuntu, during boot I get the system frozen when it starts the hotplug subsystem... how can I fix it?11:26
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[A] ndy80(ubuntu 5.10)11:26
Zukeroyou just have to add your launcher to gnome-panel launching your evolution alternative11:26
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_jasonZukero:  ok, can you recommend an alternative for me to try?  I want something lightweight11:27
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mustardubotu: tell Mustard about repositories11:27
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Zukero[A] ndy80 : it's the same for me, hotplug subsystem is long11:27
[A] ndy80Zukero: long?11:27
frankgrndslm: so you changed the home directory on the harddrive, but you cant get to any console?11:27
Zukero[A] ndy80 : yeah11:27
zblachany fool-proof alternatives to getting full read/write access to Fat32 drives?11:28
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Zukero[A] ndy80 : lilke 45 sec11:28
crimsunzblach: use uid=1000 instead of umask=02211:28
[A] ndy80Zukero: you mean that it's not frozen, but it takes so long to process it?11:28
_jasonZukero:  I meant the mini calendar opens up when I click the date on the panel... can I change that to use something other than evolution?11:28
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[A] ndy80Zukero: no no... here more than that time...11:28
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frankzukero: i was wondering about that too11:28
Zukerok11:28
Zukerohow long ?11:29
grndslmuser "gloria" was the user in the sudoers file and i changed the name (including home directory, /home/gloria) to "skipper"....now i can't get passed the login screen, all invalid user/pass....i now have live cd and have mounted the root and home directories....11:29
Zukero_jason : i don't use evolution so I can't help you11:29
ninjafishhi, is there an applet that can do the 'view as slideshow' thing that XP can do with a folder full of .gif files11:29
simeandrewsHow can I enable transparency for gdesklets in Breezy Badger? Mine looks like this: http://205.251.3.104/Screenshot.png11:29
_jasonZukero:  what do you use?11:29
zblachcrimsun, all i have to do to refresh is sudo umount -a and then sudo mount -a?11:29
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frankgrndslm: changed /home/gloria to /skipper or /home/skipper ?11:30
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crimsunzblach: just umount it then remount it11:30
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Zukero_jason :  meant i NEVER used evolution, so i don't know what it's like11:30
Dreamgliderfrank, it does not work i get this error ->http://pastebin.com/38554211:30
pluffsyhello11:30
pupilcan you guys point me to a howto for mounting my fat32 partitions11:30
zblachcrimsun, still have the same permissions11:30
grndslmfrank,it's /home/skipper11:30
pupilI know to edit fstab,.11:30
zblachpupil, hang round. crimsun and I are discussing it11:30
cevizoglucan someone point me again to the url for recovering grub after windows install?11:30
_jasonZukero:  I understand, thanks11:30
Zukeronp11:30
stimpiepubuntu, man mount11:30
pupilbut I have a few partitions,. and I don't want to mess up11:30
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[LethAL] !tell cevizoglu about grub11:30
[LethAL] There11:30
tristanmikepupil, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab11:30
stimpiepupil, man mount11:30
pluffsysorry if this is a stupid question; do you know if there are any more good looking versions of emacs? the X11 or whatever it is gui looks so ugly to me. something gtk-ish would be nice for example.11:31
LasseL!grub11:31
ubotusomebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting11:31
[LethAL] pluffsy, you mean gtk211:31
[LethAL] ;)11:31
cevizoglu[LethAL] : thx  :)11:31
carthikgrndslm, edit the /etc/shadow file to cahnge username... then rename home directory...11:31
pluffsy[LethAL] : erm I'm not sure what the difference is. but hey sure :)11:31
carthikgrndslm, undo the changes and then work it this way...11:31
naliothubotu: tell pupil about mountwindows11:31
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pupilI don't know why,. but none of these windows are opening up,.11:32
[LethAL] pluffsy, xemacs is gtk1 iirc ;-)11:32
pupilI can't get any of the browsers to work,.11:32
Dr_Willisgee do they work for ANY web site?11:32
crimsunzblach: you should be the owner.11:32
pupilDr_Willis, no webistes will come up11:32
pupilI have no idea what the problem is11:32
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pluffsy[LethAL] : Ahhh :) well gtk2 in that case :)11:33
Dr_Willishttp://72.14.203.10411:33
Dr_Willissee if that works11:33
pupilnope11:33
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Dr_Willisthis is on the same machine you are ircing from?11:34
pupilmaybe I should reload the window manager11:34
pupilyes11:34
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creatixre!11:34
Dr_Willisor some how your dns servers got changed11:34
pupilDr_Willis,  I am ircing from the same machine,. but browser will not work11:34
creatixgibt es denn kein grafisches tool (mit gui) das mir den traffic anzeigt?11:34
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Dr_Willistry a simple ping test11:34
[LethAL] !de11:34
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe11:34
Dr_Willisping www.google.com11:34
Dr_Willisand ping 72.14.203.10411:34
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LasseLcreatix, #ubuntu-de11:35
shinuanyone using an ipod with a laptop?11:35
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pupilping no problem11:35
creatixoh, so sorry ;)11:35
tristanmikeDr_Willis, for a bit of a mind bender, I can't ping, I later found out that my isp blocks all pings, save one, their server.11:35
simeandrewsanyone?11:35
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Dr_Willistristanmike,  lol...11:35
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grndslmcarthik, what am i supposed to edit in the shadow file?11:36
Dark-Druidshinu, i am...11:36
tristanmikeI spent _months_ trying to figure out why I couldn't ping11:36
pupilDr_Willis, My pings were successful11:36
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shinuDark-Druid: any problems?... my laptop seems to suck power out of the ipod battery...11:36
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davedwhich package contains mkinitrd ?11:36
davedwhat do i need to install to get it?11:36
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davedand how can i find this out @ the command line in the future?11:36
shinuDark-Druid: whereas when i plugged into a friends desktop (just a while ago) it seems alright11:36
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Dark-Druidshinu, strange mine dosen't ... it works pretty normal...11:37
kbrooksQuestion:11:37
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pupilDr_Willis, I figured out the problem11:37
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tuxedo_kamenhi everyone11:37
shinuDark-Druid: meh... seems like my laptop is doing something stupid again then... :/11:37
tuxedo_kamenlisten, I am in need for help, can anyone please help me?11:37
pupilon one of my virutal desktops,. It was trying to do something,.11:37
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pupilok11:38
tristanmiketuxedo_kamen, just ask, and someone most likely will if they can11:38
pupilso what were those websites you wanted me to go to?11:38
grndslmcarthik, you still around?11:38
simeandrewsnew question: how can I enable apm in thekernel11:38
tuxedo_kamenI am a newbie, and I need to install javadoc, plus I am having some problems with javac, can anyone please help me with both tasks?11:38
naliothubotu: tell tuxedo_kamen about javadeb11:38
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maudhi! I'm installing Breezy right now... I'm asked to choose a kernel from 3 ones... which may I choose?11:38
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grndslmmaud, the first one11:39
kbrooksmaud: latest11:39
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maudwhy?11:39
maudok11:39
graymanwhat are the selections?11:39
maudlinux-38611:39
maudlinux-image-38611:39
maudlinux-image-2.6.11:39
tuxedo_kamennalioth, like I said, I am a newbie, I don't even know which one of the packages I should install!11:39
graymanerm11:39
graymanget the first11:39
maud12-9-38611:39
graymanlooks generic11:39
graymanah11:40
graymanget the last11:40
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maudthis is the one I used to have on hoary and warty I guess11:40
tuxedo_kamengrayman, was that for me?11:40
mlucenaBreezy on amd64, can't activate DMA on hd:  sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda  =>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted11:40
mlucenaSomeone has the same problem11:40
mirakdoes ubuntu use gcc3.4 ou gcc4 ?11:40
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graymantuxedo_kamen, no it was to maud. what was your question?11:41
[LethAL] mirak, hoary uses 3.4 and breezy uses 4 iirc11:41
grndslmcan somebody help me???  i changed user "gloria", whcih was the user in the sudoers file, and i changed the name (including home directory, /home/gloria) to "skipper" (and /home/skipper)....now i can't get passed the login screen, all invalid user/pass....i now have live cd and have mounted the root and home directories...so, wudoo i do?11:41
mirakok11:41
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mirakgrndslm: you must boot with the option -single11:41
mirakgrndslm: single for the kernel, I guess recovery mode11:42
grndslmhow do i pass on boot parameters?11:42
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rukuarticAnyone have any tips for uninstalling wine? I was lazy and installed the redhat version instead.11:42
grndslmso, i just choose recovery mode in grub?11:42
mirakgrndslm: you use grub ?11:42
tuxedo_kamenok, i'll explain it... I need to install javadoc, and my javac isn't working very good (when I compile it at home, I get errors that I don't get in my university's computer!), what should I do about those 2 things?11:42
maudDam it : 'impossible to install initrd-tools' error11:42
mirakgrndslm: yes11:42
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grndslmand then??11:42
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mirakgrndslm: it will allow you to be root11:42
naliothtuxedo_kamen: ubotu sent you a msg, you should read it11:42
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grndslmmirak, so what would i change??11:43
Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, what version of java are you using at home and what version does the university use?11:43
mirakgrndslm: then you can fix what's wrong11:43
tuxedo_kamenI have no idea about both, sorry11:43
grndslmmirak, that's my biggest problem11:43
mark_Hey guys - I tried the other day to add universe and multiverse to my Synaptic and now I get errors whenever I open it. Could someone help me out if I send and example of one of the erros?11:43
guidanhi guys how would i install nerolinux?11:43
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tuxedo_kamenand I got that message from the bot, but I don't know what version of those 2 I should install!11:43
[LethAL] guidan, there are better tools available for you11:43
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mirakgrndslm: in /etc/passwd I think it's here you can change the home directory location for a user. you can't miss it11:43
guidanreally11:44
guidancan u name some?11:44
grndslmi'll try it11:44
rob_pgrndslm:  Make sure the user in /etc/shadow is changed to the same user listed in /etc/passwd.  Also, make sure that the user's home directory is accessible and owned by that user.  That should get you back in.11:44
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[LethAL] guidan, graveman, serpentine, nautilus11:44
zblachhi11:44
tuxedo_kamenDark-Druid, can I PM you?11:44
g14Reduce your gnome startup time to 3 seconds: http://nat.org/2005/october/#Keep-It-Simple-Stupid11:44
naliothtuxedo_kamen: are you using breezy or hoary?11:44
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zblachstill having trouble setting permissions on a fat32 drive. nothing seems to be working11:44
mirakgrndslm: but what you did is a bit dirty11:44
guidan[LethAL] : can i use apt-get for those?11:44
Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, yeah11:45
tuxedo_kamennalioth, how can I know the difference? I just know I am on ubuntu...11:45
mirakgrndslm: it would have been cleaner to just create a new user11:45
jamie_1how do I add an IRC account on gaim and then connect to the channels?11:45
mark_Can I upgrade to Breezy without uninstalling Horay?11:45
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jamie_1forget the connect part11:45
[LethAL] guidan, yes, or synaptic. For synaptic search for cd burn11:45
[LethAL] !tell mark_ about upgrade2breezy11:45
g14mark_: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:45
g14mark_: change hoary to breezy11:45
shinuubuntu does support usb2 by default right?11:46
grndslmmirak, i created a new user and then used usermod to change home directories and everything11:46
[LethAL] shinu, does for me11:46
g14mark_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:46
tristanmiketuxedo_kamen, System-->About Ubuntu11:46
grndslmhow should i have done it differently?11:46
[LethAL] shinu, so it should for you :)11:46
mark_g14 thanks is that all?11:46
shinu[LethAL] : i see... just random question :P11:46
g14mark_: yes11:46
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[LethAL] ;)11:46
mark_g14 thanks again11:46
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shinu[LethAL] : trying to troubleshoot my problem x)11:46
[LethAL] shinu, problem?11:46
shinu[LethAL] : ipod problem... :P11:47
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tuxedo_kamentristanmike, I only have applications -> about ubuntu, and it seems to take me to a website11:47
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canexhi11:47
[LethAL] shinu, ah... not my field :D11:47
jamie_1how do I add an IRC account on gaim and then connect to the channels? anyone?11:47
canexi have a problem11:47
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rukuarticjamie_1: Wrong channel...11:48
tristanmiketuxedo_kamen, does it say Breezy?11:48
graymantuxedo_kamen, yeah. and whats said tehre?11:48
canexi can't connect to the net with ubuntu........11:48
jamie_1sorry11:48
poningrurukuartic: why is that wrong channel?11:48
pupilis there any disadvantage to upgrading with the universe repositories?11:48
tuxedo_kamenit takes me here -> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/11:48
shinu[LethAL] : noone's field it seems... i got a weird problem :P11:48
[LethAL] jamie_1, gaim isn't a good irc client...11:48
mirakgrndslm: I would have created a new user and just copied the settings.11:48
poningrurukuartic: we support those software11:48
poningruin our os11:48
mirakgrndslm: that's not an exact science :)11:48
pupilhow do I get msn on ubuntu?11:49
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poningrupupil: gaim11:49
graymanpupil, gaim11:49
poningru!gaim11:49
kevogodpupil, MSN messenger services?11:49
ubotugaim is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/11:49
g14pupil: gaim does it fine11:49
g14pupil: aMsn looks like msn messanger though11:49
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pupilcan I apt-get install gaim?11:49
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grndslmmirak, but i did that...11:49
pupilor use synaptic11:49
graymanpupil, should be by default11:49
[LethAL] pupil, It's allready installed...11:49
poningrurukuartic: hehe thats ok11:49
naliothpupil: you should have it already11:49
tristanmiketuxedo_kamen, you don't have systems-->About Ubuntu, what about help?11:49
pupilahh yes,. I have it11:50
grndslmmirak,  crazeej:x:1000:1000:Jeremie,,,:/home/crazeej:/bin/bash11:50
tuxedo_kamenhum, I have applications -> help, but it doesn't help me either11:50
poningrujamie_1: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q5511:50
grndslmthe group is 1000...shouldn't that work??11:50
naliothtuxedo_kamen: open a terminal and type "lsb_release -a"11:51
graymantuxedo_kamen, ok do that. launch synaptic and go to settings -> repositories and see if you have there breezy mentiioned11:51
poningrutuxedo_kamen: what are you trying to figure out?11:51
mirakgrndslm: if it works it's good11:51
tristanmikeponingru, he/she doesn't know what version he/she is running11:51
poningruah ic11:51
grndslmmirak, but it doesn't...it just looks configured properly11:51
smaugslayertristanmike: what info does about ubuntu give u?  when i try it i get an error => The Uniform Resource Identifier ghelp:about-ubuntu is invalid or does not point to an actual file.11:51
grndslmmirak, i'm using the livecd to view the files and they look ok....11:51
dodgyvilleHi. I went apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, but it has choked on the first package "cannot access archive libc6-dev_2.3.5-1ubuntu11_powerpc.deb"11:51
poningrutuxedo_kamen: yeah run what nalioth told you in a terminal11:52
tuxedo_kamenyeah, I have something about warty warthog on one of the urls11:52
mirakgrndslm: you can chroot to your  installed system11:52
graymanheh11:52
tristanmikesmaugslayer, yeah, I did too, but I think it's cause I uninstalled ubuntu-desktop, check that you have it installed11:52
grayman warty11:52
tuxedo_kamenponingru, I need to find my javac version, plus I want to install javadoc11:52
[LethAL] tristanmike, ubuntu-desktop doesn't provide any functionality11:53
Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, javac -showversion11:53
grndslmmirak, dunno how to chroot11:53
Dark-Druidfor javadocs to work as far as i can remeber you need to install ant11:53
[LethAL] !tell grndslm about chroot11:53
tristanmike[LethAL] , but I think that it installs other packages that fix this problem, packages that were removed with the firefox fix a couple weeks back11:53
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[LethAL] tristanmike, it installs the whole gnome gui11:53
smaugslayernope - i have it installed.  running breezy though, so could be anything11:54
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mark_Does anyone in here use wine? I am new to linux and would like to know if wine is a good solution or if I need to just find similar programs made for linux11:54
mirakchroot /system11:54
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mirakgrndslm: chroot /system11:54
tuxedo_kamensorry, clicked in the wrong place! >_<11:54
mirakgrndslm: chroot /systemmountpoint11:54
tristanmike[LethAL] , I don't know what to say other than, I didn't have the help, I did before, I wondered why, in some searching I found that it was uninstalled, i reinstalled it, it said it wanted to install more packs, i said yes, and it worked11:54
tuxedo_kamenso, how did I check the javac version?11:54
graymanmark_, its always better to find similar programs for linux11:54
Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, javac -showversion11:54
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mylastmorningmark_ I wanna know also. so when you find out would you do me a favor and tell me what you hear for recommendations?11:54
dodgyvillemark_: What program do you want to use?11:54
xlyzhi. dist-upgrading to breezy. is it dangerous?11:54
rukuarticYes!11:55
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tuxedo_kamenDark-Druid, they say it is an invalid flag!11:55
dodgyvillexlyz: I'm stuck at the moment11:55
grndslmmirak, so i create a temp user and then chroot /var/tmproot???11:55
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kbrooksxlyz: works for me, may not work for you11:55
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mark_dodgyville, I love itunes and wanted to run it11:55
mylastmorningdodgyvillie, is wine good for Ragnarok Online?11:55
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Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, try java -showversion11:55
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mylastmorningdodgyville, is wine good for Ragnarok Online?11:55
florais it silly to think that we can upgrade from hoary to breezy?11:55
floraor is it best to just plan for a clean reinstall11:55
mirakgrndslm: no11:56
kbrooksflora: not silly11:56
mark_mylastmorning, I will tell you what I hear but other than that it is the blind leading the blind! I am new to linux and I am still getting my feet wet11:56
mylastmorningflora, wait till the full release is out.11:56
dodgyvillemark_, mylastmorning: In my experience, wine is better at games than at apps. However, the older the game the better it probably runs. DirectX 9 is probably not so good.11:56
xlyzkbrooks: out of the box or you needed to do some post upgrade work?11:56
mirakgrndslm: you are onnn the livecd. You have your system mounted somewhere11:56
kbrooksflora: you can upgrade, but wait then11:56
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kbrooksxlyz: out of the box11:56
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floraroger, full release... and upgrading will be an option aye? with *other* distros you can't upgrade11:56
grndslmmirak, check!11:56
kbrooksno post upgrade work11:56
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mirakgrndslm: chroot makes believe bash that you are on another system than the current one you booted on11:56
naliothflora: ubuntu is designed for clean upgrades to the latest release(s)11:56
xlyzthanks11:57
florasweet.11:57
kbrooksflora: debian has upgrading as a option11:57
guidanhi, i just downloaded nautilus but i cant find it11:57
dodgyvillexlyz: All I tried to do was change hoary to breezy in sources.list, type apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade but it has caused two major problems11:57
g14if you install lots of packages from multiverse and universe, dist-upgrading will break things11:57
mylastmorningdodgyville, have you tried Ragnarok Online with it?11:57
Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, for javadoc as far as i can remeber you only need to install ant11:57
mark_dodgyville, thanks but I don't play many games, and the ones I do are also done for linux, like U2K4. I just want simple apps like itunes to run11:57
naliothguidan: it should have already been on your system (it is the core of gnome)11:57
tuxedo_kamenDark-Druid, ok, my university has version 1-4-1-b21, I have 1.1.x-cvs from kaffe, how can I install theirs? :|11:57
grndslmmirak, and...??  sorry, i'm just not understanding what's going on11:57
xlyzdodgyville: what problems?11:57
naliothguidan: applications > system tools > file manager11:57
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mylastmorningnalioth, have you ever played Ragnarok Online?11:58
mirakgrndslm: I must go11:58
mirakgrndslm: sorry11:58
dodgyvillemylastmorning, mark_: Both those programs using networking, which is a little bit dodgy in wine. I think there is a linux itunes-style program somewhere.11:58
mark_dodgyville, could you tell me how I can have ubuntu mount an NTFS partition so I can access the music on it? Also how can I make it mount on boot up11:58
_jasondoes anyone know if evolution data server is needed?  It seems to just hog memory since I don't use evolution anyway.  Can I remove it somehow?11:58
funkyHatmark_,11:58
funkyHat!ntfs11:58
ubotuntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.11:58
mylastmorning!ragnarok11:59
ubotumylastmorning: Are you smoking crack?11:59
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mylastmorning!mmorpg11:59
ubotumylastmorning: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:59
mylastmorning!wine11:59
graymanheh11:59
Antonio77hi11:59
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guidannalioth: whats the full path?11:59
kbrooks!playwithbot11:59
ubotuDo not play with me, please. Message me instead.11:59
dodgyvillexlyz: Well, first it wouldn't authenticate my apt-get keys(!) because the clock on the laptop was flat (as I discovered). Now it gets an error trying to process linux_kernels-headers-2.6.11.2-0ubuntu12_powerpc.deb11:59
ompaulyippee another live CD works11:59
Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, i'm not sure how you ended up with that java version but to install 1.4 try sudo apt-get install j2sdk1.411:59
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