[12:00] <dooglus> kbrooks: granted, it's only grepping through a (hopefully empty) list of lost+found contents, so it shouldn't be the problem
[12:00] <Cryptid> k thanx
[12:00] <Belutz_zzz> Kris_k, why don't try using fglrx ?
[12:00] <Quinthius> Cryptid: and don't spam here
[12:00] <feaces> got synaptic but no dpkg
[12:00] <nalioth> Cryptid: dont paste in here please
[12:00] <Quinthius> feaces: ls /usr/bin/dpkg ... anything?
[12:00] <kbrooks> dooglus: not revelant
[12:00] <Blissex> Kris_k: at the first question Select the desired default X server. select xserver-xorg
[12:00] <Kris_k> I'm new to this x-server stuff and been trying to read up on it so isntalling or picking drivers is very confusing sence im coming from windows
[12:00] <feaces> OKAY PEBKAC
[12:01] <dooglus> Cryptid: for one, you shouldn't untar as root - tar files can overwrite important system files
[12:01] <kbrooks> dooglus: looping
[12:01] <feaces> it was allPABKAC
[12:01] <kbrooks> not grepping
[12:01] <Blissex> Kris_k: at the second question Select the desired X server driver. select vesa (#32 here)
[12:01] <feaces> sorry guysz i feel sooo stupid
[12:01] <Quinthius> ...pabkac?
[12:01] <nalioth> feaces: may we help you?
[12:01] <dooglus> kbrooks: you don't have a 'grep' inside the loop?
[12:01] <feaces> problem exists between keyboard and chair
[12:01] <Kris_k> blissex ill brb gona reboot into ubuntu and give it a try
[12:01] <Cryptid> dooglus what does that error mean that i got
[12:01] <oO_will_Oo> feaces: what was the problem?
[12:01] <Blissex> Kris_k: wait
[12:01] <Kris_k> k
[12:01] <feaces> PEBKAC
[12:02] <feaces> that was the problem
[12:02] <feaces> not dkpg but dpkg
[12:02] <oO_will_Oo> no, that was where it was located
[12:02] <oO_will_Oo> ah
[12:02] <dooglus> Cryptid: I think it means that your tar isn't clever enough to realise that it's a gzipped archive, and that you need to use the 'z' flag, like:  tar xfz archive.tar.gz
[12:02] <Blissex> Kris_k: when it asks you the Please enter the video card's bus identifier. question make the answer blank unless you are sure the ID is PCI:1:0:0
[12:02] <kbrooks> dooglus: it loops over directories, and ignores them if its not a directory
[12:03] <kbrooks> it DOES have grep
[12:03] <Quinthius> dooglus: f should come last in the arguments list last i checked... so tar zxf for example
[12:03] <Blissex> Kris_k: and similart the amount of memory on the card, leave it blank
[12:03] <Kris_k> Blissex so erase whats in there and make it blank
[12:03] <dooglus> Quinthius: no, that's never been the case.
[12:03] <Quinthius> dooglus: it most certainly has, at least at one point in time..
[12:03] <kbrooks> dooglus: should not must
[12:03] <Blissex> Kris_k: yes, that should work. I haven't tested it specifically, but as a rule on a normal PC the PCI ID is not necessary and if you specify it wrong  bad news.
[12:04] <kbrooks> Quinthius, dooglus: pls dont argue
[12:04] <Kris_k> blissex thank you ill brb Hopefully inside ubuntu :D
[12:04] <dooglus> Quinthius: if you have both 'f' and 'b' then the filename argument and the blocksize argument must be in the same order as the f and the b, but other than that the order of the flags is and has always been irrelevant as far as I know.  when do you think it was different?
[12:04] <kbrooks> Why does ubuntu supply irssi?
[12:05] <dooglus> kbrooks: it's the best irc client I've found so far
[12:05] <nalioth> kbrooks: ask in -offtopic (to prevent a flame war)
[12:05] <dooglus> (that's not why - they didn't include it because I liked it :) )
[12:05] <kbrooks> nalioth: ok
[12:05] <vbgunz> nalioth: hey dude, really sorry if I got you and some other people upset, I really do apologize. Nothing on migrating a Mozilla Thunderbird profile was easy until I saw this page here http://www.liewcf.com/blog/archives/2004/10/move-thunderbird-profile/ I just thought I share it with those who think migrating Thunderbird from Windows would be hard... It was actually quite easy if you follow the first response to the question. I apologize 
[12:06] <feaces> reading database
[12:06] <feaces> ls
[12:06] <kennethlove> how do you restart CUPS?
[12:07] <informant> kennethlove: sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart
[12:07] <feaces> trying to install the tor
[12:07] <informant> kennethlove: or something like that
[12:07] <feaces> dependency problems
[12:07] <feaces> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:07] <kennethlove> informant: yeah, tried that.:) cups and cupsd are both not found.
[12:07] <Quinthius> dooglus: some time within the past year or 2. it may have been a bug in whatever version i was using at the time, *shrug*, but i definately remember at some point f needing to be last since it expected the filename argument right after it
[12:07] <oO_will_Oo> what dependencies exactly?
[12:07] <Crell> Hey, folks.  I'm considering Ubuntu for a small office server, but I'm having trouble finding docs on what actual versions of various packages Ubuntu ships with.  Is that information available anywhere?  (Eg, PHP 4.what?  Samba 3.what?  Subversion 1.what?)
[12:08] <informant> kennethlove: then `ls /etc/init.d` and see what lives in there.. could by "cupsys"?
[12:08] <dooglus> Quinthius: we'll agree to differ, shall we?
[12:08] <Crell> I've not been able to find actual versions on the web site yet, for any release.  (I'd be interested in Breezy, I suppse.)
[12:08] <x_or> Has anyone setup DUN over Bluetooth on their Treo?  What is the top speed I can use when doing this?
[12:09] <Quinthius> dooglus: there's nothing to agree or disagree with... i'm telling you from experience, but it's entirely possible it was a "feature" (bug) in some older version.
[12:09] <kennethlove> informant: thanks. it was cupsys
[12:09] <_willcooke_> Crell, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:10] <_willcooke_> kennethlove, it's something like cupsysd
[12:10] <Crell> _willcooke_ : That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
[12:10] <_willcooke_> kennethlove, oh, cupsys
[12:11] <_willcooke_> kennethlove, if you do "/etc/init.d/cu" and then press tab it'll show you whats what
[12:11] <fdesar> someone knows an effective way on migrating from kmail to thunderbird (tons of messages, filter rules, subdirs etc.) ?
[12:12] <kennethlove> _willcooke_: thanks, didn't think of that.
[12:13] <johnnythunders> hi all, so, i was going to try to do a 32 bit chroot environment in my 64 bit breezy, and while debootstrap was "checking component main" on the archive, it seems to have hung.  could it just be taking a long time (10 minutes)?  thanks in advance.
[12:13] <Crell> huh.  Is there to be no PHP 4 for Breezy?
[12:14] <Crell> Ah, only in universe
[12:16] <cevizoglu> feature request for ubuntu... pass -b to apt-get and it will use bittorrent to download the updates
[12:16] <mylastmorning> is their a way to make a launcher that can run progams like this ./programhere?
[12:17] <anethema> anyone know of a good news reader? pan fucking blows (mostly for downloading binaries)
[12:17] <Crell> anethema : KNode?  (Part of KDE)
[12:17] <Kris_k> Yay im in ubuntu
[12:17] <anethema> im in ubuntu..so gnome
[12:17] <Crell> Thunderbird does NNTP, too, but I've not used it for that.
[12:17] <ssam> anethema, liferea
[12:17] <cevizoglu> mylastmorning, there already is one... you add it to your panels
[12:17] <cyborgcey> I hope this is place for Ubuntu 5.04
[12:18] <ssam> anethema, or do you mean real new reader
[12:18] <anethema> yeah like..pan
[12:18] <anethema> but better
[12:18] <cevizoglu> mylastmorning, you then click on it and type the name of the app you want to run
[12:18] <Kris_k> blissex Thanks it worked now all i need to do is get the video drivers for x800 to work which i couldent do on Suse
[12:18] <anethema> when pan saves binaries it takes forever
[12:18] <Blissex> Kris_k: which video drivers?
[12:19] <anethema> i basically want xnews for linux
[12:19] <anethema> haha
[12:19] <anethema> Kris_k, its easy
[12:19] <Kris_k> well im not sure which to use i use the ones off the ATI site before but what otherones should i use ?
[12:19] <anethema> go here:
[12:19] <anethema> !faq
[12:19] <ubotu> methinks faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[12:19] <Blissex> !ati
[12:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[12:19] <anethema> http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[12:19] <anethema> go there
[12:19] <anethema> dont need those
[12:19] <anethema> just this one
[12:19] <Kris_k> k
[12:19] <anethema> click hardware
[12:19] <dooglus> Quinthius: I think I discovered the difference...  If you are in the habit of putting a dash in front of the tar flags, then the 'f' must come last, otherwise it doesn't matter what order.  tar -fx file.tar is wrong, but tar fx file.tar is fine
[12:19] <anethema> then go to the ATI section
[12:19] <anethema> gives you step by step on how to get it working
[12:19] <Hunkyspunky> hhelo
[12:19] <anethema> cant possibly fuckup
[12:20] <Hunkyspunky> got boot cd booting but..
[12:20] <Hunkyspunky> it says hit enter to boot live cd
[12:20] <cyborgcey> I am having problem getting audio on my sound card, it is a SoundMax Integrated Digital  Audio can one tell me what I need to do get it working
[12:20] <Hunkyspunky> then i scans for hardware then a note comes up saying that a relase fiel is mssing.
[12:20] <Blissex> Kris_k: the safest one is the 'radeon' hardware but it does not do fast 3D. The 'fglrx' driver is not open source, has some problems, but when it works it does fast 3D. it is described in the links I evoked above.
[12:20] <Crell> anethema : Never underestimate the ability of a human being to screw something up completely. :-)
[12:20] <Hunkyspunky> whats that about someone please ehlp.
[12:20] <Crell> Especially if he has a computer at his disposal.
[12:20] <Quinthius> dooglus: aha... i did used to use the dash in front, so that was probably it
[12:20] <anethema> Blissex, he has a x800
[12:20] <Hunkyspunky> anyobdy ?
[12:20] <dooglus> Hunkyspunky: how did you make a boot CD?  I would like to try switching from LILO to grub, but don't want to screw up my ability to boot altogher like last time I tried grub
[12:21] <Blissex> cyborgcey: it may not be supported if it is very new.
[12:21] <anethema> not doing 3d isnt an option for him i think
[12:21] <anethema> hehe
[12:21] <Hunkyspunky> does anybody now the answer to my question?
[12:21] <anethema> Crell, true :)
[12:21] <cyborgcey> its about three years old
[12:21] <Blissex> cyborgcey: but follow the http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 troubleshooting section and the links therein.
[12:21] <Hunkyspunky> i downloaded the iso and sued nero to burn image.
[12:21] <GDorn> anyone feel like helping me troubleshoot my sound card problem?  I can't get any sound system to work, and what I really want is alsa to work.
[12:21] <dooglus> Quinthius: type "info tar styles" if you're interested in how tar options work.
[12:22] <dooglus> Quinthius: it's quite a mess!
[12:22] <Blissex> Hunkyspunky: please quote your platinum account number for 1 minute response time :-)
[12:22] <anethema> Hunkyspunky, if no one answers it means no one knows the answer to your question
[12:22] <anethema> GDorn, whats wrong, no sound at all?
[12:22] <anethema> what card?
[12:22] <Blissex> Hunkyspunky: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions and how long to wait for one.
[12:22] <TiMiDo> ac97 i bet
[12:22] <Hunkyspunky> so if the relase file is issign is there any insrtuctions for this live cd 5.10?
[12:23] <GDorn> anethema:  no sound at all now.  I had OSS working, briefly, but it's really suboptimal.  I have a turtle beach santa cruz
[12:23] <anethema> oh, doh
[12:23] <anethema> haha
[12:23] <dooglus> Hunkyspunky: you've given us very few details
[12:23] <Hunkyspunky> if i get this work and i'm happy with it i will doante.
[12:23] <amias> GDorn, tells us what card it is , which platform , which ubuntu you are using
[12:23] <Reggylove> can i make a copy from cd of ubuntu to a hdd and install ubuntu from the hdd ?
[12:23] <Crell> I'm coming from Debian, so have a decent understanding of The Debian Way(tm) of doing configuration.  How much of that would translate to Unbutu?  (eg, the way config files are split up, etc.)
[12:23] <Hunkyspunky> okay i put cd in..
[12:23] <GDorn> amias:  turtle beach sound card, k7, and breezy.
[12:23] <duffman25> Hello. Does anyone here know what happened to the ubuntu traffic page? There haven't been any updates in a long time
[12:23] <dooglus> Hunkyspunky: can I have a kidney?
[12:23] <Hunkyspunky> the screen comes up to press enter to boot live cd
[12:24] <Hunkyspunky> then it scans for hardware and then a note comes up saying the relase file is missiong or it can't read it.
[12:24] <dooglus> Hunkyspunky: which CD?
[12:24] <Hunkyspunky> i tired it on 2 computers
[12:24] <amias> GDorn, turtle beech use some quite unsual designs , which one is it ?
[12:24] <Hunkyspunky> one on all dell 5100 and othwr ona old computer p3
[12:24] <os2mac> anyone got a minute to talk about acpi on a dell inspiron 8600 running ubuntu?
[12:25] <dooglus> that's the magic of IRC.  you can tire hundreds of people at once.
[12:25] <Hunkyspunky> what does gd mean?
[12:25] <GDorn> amias:  santa cruz.  it's listed, sorta, on the alsa hardware list
[12:25] <_willcooke_> dooglus, :)
[12:25] <fmasi> HI When will Breezy be ready? IS it ok to instal the previu and just kep whith updates ?
[12:25] <anethema> GDorn, how did OSS stop working ?
[12:25] <amias> GDorn, does lscpi see it ?
[12:25] <anethema> fmasi, ive got breezy running now
[12:25] <Hunkyspunky>  what does gd mean?
[12:25] <anethema> and just keeping with the updates
[12:25] <dooglus> fmasi: probably.  but there are still lots of updates.  50Mb some days
[12:26] <GDorn> amias:  yeah, it lists it as " Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24"
[12:26] <dooglus> Hunkyspunky: I said 'cd', not 'gd' if that's what you're asking?
[12:26] <Hunkyspunky> can some tell emw here i can find instructions on using live cd in pc?
[12:26] <GDorn> anethema:  at some point I tried installing alsa and it not only didn't work, it took OSS out with it
[12:26] <fmasi> um its becouse i red in the forum that moust my problems whill be fixed whith breezy
[12:26] <_willcooke_> GDorn, this might be painful to your ears, but... when happens when you cat a file to /dev/dsp?
[12:26] <amias> GDorn, how do you know its not working ?
[12:27] <amias> GDorn, make sure its a wav file
[12:27] <Hunkyspunky> i don't wanrt to isnbtyall it till i see it wqill work and don't want to lose windows.
[12:27] <anethema> first first first thing you should do is check easy stuff
[12:27] <anethema> such as
[12:27] <anethema> go into your OSS and alsa volume controlls
[12:27] <dooglus> fmasi: give it a try if you could cope with your PC possibly not being bootable for a few days
[12:27] <amias> mixer settings !
[12:27] <anethema> and check to make sure nothing is muted
[12:27] <anethema> yeah
[12:27] <anethema> mixer settings
[12:27] <anethema> soo many ppl ive seen come in 'my sound doesnt work' and the master volume is muted
[12:27] <Hunkyspunky> anybody got a relase file on there cd?
[12:27] <Kris_k> Anethema i did what it said but when i run glxgears in a command like it runs but doesnt output any fps
[12:28] <duffman25> Hello. Does anyone here know what happened to the ubuntu traffic page? There haven't been any updates in a long time
[12:28] <GDorn> anethema:  yeah, I checked that earlier.  only things muted are the microphones, because at one point, when OSS was working, it was making a lot of background noise from the mic line
[12:28] <fmasi> dooglus, what do you mean by the pc no booting ?
[12:28] <anethema> try this Kris_k
[12:28] <anethema> fgl_glxgears
[12:28] <anethema> my glxgears doesnt output anyting either anymore :(
[12:28] <kennethlove> so what's up with samba and cups on breezy? i had them working perfectly in hoary and i've had nothing but failures on breezy
[12:28] <Quinthius> dooglus: yep, that's a mess alright
[12:28] <dooglus> fmasi: it's conceivable that tomorrow they issue a kernel update that screws everything up.  if you can cope with that, upgrade.  if not, wait.
[12:28] <amias> GDorn, have you checked that the amp / headphones / speakers are working ok ?
[12:28] <Kris_k> anethema command not found
[12:29] <anethema> hmmmmmmmm
[12:29] <anethema> ok do this
[12:29] <GDorn> amias:  they work when I boot to windows, yes.
[12:29] <fmasi> dooglus, i can alwais compile my owhn kernel
[12:29] <anethema> glxinfo | grep vendor
[12:29] <jenocin> hey, was the suspend to ram taken out of the yesterdays release?
[12:29] <dooglus> fmasi: sounds like you're ready to use breezy then...
[12:29] <anethema> and tell me what the opengl vendor is
[12:29] <amias> GDorn, did it ever work or did it stop working ?
[12:29] <anethema> Kris_k,
[12:29] <Kris_k> server glx vendor string: SGI
[12:29] <Kris_k> client glx vendor string: SGI
[12:29] <Kris_k> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[12:29] <mylastmorning> !games
[12:29] <ubotu> games is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153, or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers.  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[12:29] <anethema> doh
[12:29] <GDorn> amias:  OSS worked, but only for one sound at a time.  I tried to install ALSA, and now both do not work.
[12:29] <anethema> ok it didnt work
[12:30] <Kris_k> :-/
[12:30] <anethema> did you restart X?
[12:30] <Kris_k> yes
[12:30] <Kris_k> restarted whole comp
[12:31] <anethema> edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:31] <anethema> and make sure in the "Device" section
[12:31] <anethema> it says fglrx and not ATI for device
[12:31] <anethema> er
[12:31] <anethema> driver
[12:31] <anethema> and make sure you said AGPgart thing is no
[12:32] <anethema>   Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[12:32] <satafterh> I have a question, I have ubuntu and kubuntu installed. How do i change the boot gui from ubuntu to kubuntu
[12:32] <dooglus> does anyone use a synaptic touchpad on a laptop and NOT know about circular scrolling, iPod style?
[12:32] <dooglus> I only found it a couple of days ago, but it's great for quickly scrolling through stuff
[12:32] <amias> GDorn, but you can still use alsamixer and the settings stick between invocations ?
[12:33] <Kris_k> Anethema do you mind talking in a PM so i log instaid of trying to scroll around ?
[12:33] <anethema> sure
[12:33] <amias> dooglus: neat , which models ?
[12:33] <jenocin> satafterh: which gui? the splash screen or grub
[12:33] <GDorn> amias:  I'm not sure what you mean.  everything stays the same way through reboots, yes.
[12:33] <kennethlove> anyone want to help me with CUPS?
[12:33] <dooglus> amias: all, I think.  it's done in software.  you know how you can run your finger up and down the right hand edge to scroll up and down?
[12:34] <large_muscles> Is anyone having problems accessing the repositories?
[12:34] <GDorn> amias:  okay, now my onboard sound card is working.  but the thing that selects which card to output on doesn't do anything.
[12:34] <Reggylove> what can i do to install Ubuntu from USB cd drive ?
[12:34] <mfv> hello.  how can i become root in the Ubuntu LiveCD?  is there a default user or root password?
[12:34] <large_muscles> mfv Ubuntu doesn't really use root.
[12:34] <dooglus> amias: it's like that, but when you reach the bottom, you can keep moving, in a circle...  just put Option "CircularScrolling" "1" in xorg.conf's synaptics section
[12:34] <amias> GDorn, which thing ?
[12:34] <jenocin> mfv: sudo
[12:34] <large_muscles> Jmfv ust type "sudo" before entering your command.
[12:34] <amias> dooglus, cool will have a go later :)
[12:34] <GDorn> amias:  "Sound Preferences" in the System menu.
[12:35] <satafterh> the screen showing while starting the system that has the scroling on it.
[12:35] <Kris_k> Anethema you get my pm ?
[12:35] <jenocin> mfv: sudo passwd root should change the root password for ya
[12:35] <fmasi_> Can some one help me whith my RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
[12:35] <nalioth> mfv: but it's not advised
[12:35] <GDorn> amias:  that setting is not sticking.  it shows both sound devices, lets me select either, but it always falls back to the onboard device.  I know I could disable it in the bios, but I'd actually like to have both cards working.
[12:35] <jenocin> satafterhs: u trying to change it back to ubuntu or to kubuntu?
[12:35] <monger> does anybody know what happened to the backports repositories?
[12:36] <Reggylove> what can i do to install Ubuntu from USB cd drive ?
[12:36] <large_muscles> monger:  I'm having hte same problem.
[12:36] <jenocin> mfv: nope not advised but he's on the live cd
[12:36] <jenocin> backports have to use mirrors now
[12:36] <monger> large_muscles, they seem kind of empty ;)
[12:36] <dooglus> amias: for detailed instructions, search for 'circular' in http://www.polarhome.com:793/doc/synaptics-0.13.5/README
[12:36] <anethema> Kris_k,
[12:36] <monger> jenocin, which?
[12:36] <Kris_k> ?
[12:36] <large_muscles> monger: Yeah, I keep getting 404s
[12:36] <anethema> is your nick registered?
[12:36] <Kris_k> yes
[12:37] <fmasi_> jenocin where can i found the info abouth that
[12:37] <anethema> says priv messages are blocked
[12:37] <anethema> sec
[12:37] <mfv> ok, thanks for the help
[12:37] <jenocin> I am guessing u are talking about the backports on ubuntu forums
[12:37] <dooglus> now if only I could get it to 'click' like an ipod's scrollwheel too.
[12:37] <monger> jenocin, no all backports
[12:37] <jenocin> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[12:37] <fmasi_> jenocin where can i found the info abouth that
[12:37] <monger> jenocin, no all the mirrors are empty too
[12:37] <fmasi_> jenocin ops thx
[12:38] <large_muscles> monger: Try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72228&highlight=repositories
[12:38] <large_muscles> monger: Someone has a sources.list that they said is working, I'm input it and am apt-get updating right now.
[12:39] <anethema> my sources.list is working fine for breezy right now
[12:39] <monger> large_muscles, let's see
[12:39] <monger> anethema, it was only a hoary problem for me
[12:39] <monger> anethema, my breezy machine is doing fine
[12:39] <large_muscles> monger: Hmmm... it seems like the backpaorts are working... but I get connection timed out at http://archive.ubuntu.com
[12:39] <fmasi_> Enny one whith a RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
[12:39] <anethema> weird
[12:40] <large_muscles> anethema: Think there's a difference between Breezy and Hoary?
[12:40] <LazyAngel> i can choose from 3 kernels when i  install amd64
[12:40] <mylastmorning> anyone know where I can get cube_2004.05.22-english.run
[12:40] <LazyAngel> anyone knows the diffrence?
[12:41] <large_muscles> mylastmorning: Did you check sourceforge?
[12:41] <monger> large_muscles,
[12:41] <monger> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted did the trick
[12:41] <Hunkyspunky> i just tired it again.. now i was playing around and know it says its not a ubuntu cd
[12:41] <LazyAngel> linux-amd64-generic, linux-image-amd64-generic and linux-image-2.6.12-8-amd64-generic
[12:41] <large_muscles> monger: Did you just add that to what you had before?
[12:41] <GDorn> I'm trying editing my asound.conf to see if that does any good.  if I do, do I need to restart a sound daemon, and how would I do that?
[12:41] <Hunkyspunky> i burnt the image using nero on a dc-r
[12:42] <monger> large_muscles, just added it
[12:42] <LazyAngel> whats the diffrence?
[12:42] <Hunkyspunky> dc-r=cd-r
[12:42] <TiMiDo> LazyAngel; look, at the ubuntu.com
[12:42] <Hunkyspunky> if anyone can help oits appreciated
[12:42] <LazyAngel> TiMiDo: i cant find where to look... :(
[12:42] <dooglus> LazyAngel: two of them are meta-packages I think.  go for the shortest-named one
[12:42] <mylastmorning> yes large_muscles, they don't have .run files anymore.
[12:43] <Dreamglider> can anyone help me ?
[12:43] <TiMiDo> !tell LazyAngel about doc
[12:43] <syamajala> hi does the live cd have madwifi support?
[12:43] <Hunkyspunky> can u use a cd-r for ubuntu?
[12:43] <cevizoglu> in grub's menu.lst, root (hd0,1) corresponds to /dev/sda2, right?
[12:43] <TiMiDo> syamajala; nope
[12:43] <large_muscles> monger I already had that in my sources.list
[12:43] <Hunkyspunky> i even ordered a ubuntu live cd and install cd for pc intel x86
[12:43] <LazyAngel> TiMiDo, dooglus: thanks
[12:43] <large_muscles> monger: Do you think you can send me a copy of yours?
[12:43] <syamajala> TiMiDo: do you know of any livecds that have madwifi support with rdesktop?
[12:44] <large_muscles> monger: Maybe PM it or something.
[12:44] <TiMiDo> syamajala; check on ubuntu.com
[12:44] <monger> large_muscles, I'll try no big hero with IRC :>
[12:44] <dooglus> LazyAngel: can you see the filesizes?  I would expect the 2 shortest named ones to be tiny
[12:44] <large_muscles> monger: Me neither, don't worry about it.
[12:44] <syamajala> xp on my mom's laptop isn't working and she needs to log into work
[12:44] <syamajala> she is using my laptop
[12:44] <Hunkyspunky> so waht happens when ubuntu says its not a ubuntu cd?
[12:44] <TiMiDo> syamajala; intalled ubuntu and then, installed it with apt,
[12:45] <TiMiDo> Hunkyspunky; it won't boot
[12:45] <cevizoglu> or is root (hd0,1) equal to /dev/sda1?
[12:45] <syamajala> but it can't be run from the livecd?
[12:45] <Casius> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72022 - does anybody have any ideas? Can't get ubuntu to run..
[12:45] <syamajala> thats ok
[12:45] <syamajala> slax seems to have support for madwifi
[12:45] <TiMiDo> syamajala; yes it can
[12:46] <lJlolel> hello
[12:46] <BioVorE> i8042.c: can't read CTR while initializing i8042 <-- kernel glitch?   Poof no keyboard.. sock ubuntu 686 smp kernel
[12:46] <TiMiDo> lJlolel; hello
[12:46] <LazyAngel> dooglus: no
[12:46] <lJlolel> my installation of breezy preview is stuck at 91%
[12:46] <dooglus> LazyAngel: look here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/base/linux-amd64-generic
[12:46] <LazyAngel> TiMiDo: that documentation is the worst i have seen ever: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/AMD64
[12:46] <lJlolel> i'm on ctrl_alt_f7 right now anyway, though
[12:46] <lJlolel> this is the postinstall base install stuck on 91%
[12:46] <TiMiDo> LazyAngel; well relax we're just starting that's why
[12:46] <zblach> haldo
[12:47] <TiMiDo> lJlolel; did you put the cd?
[12:47] <TiMiDo> read why is taking so long lJlolel
[12:47] <dooglus> that one is size '21.2k', the next one is the same, and the longest one is 14,000k
[12:47] <lJlolel> it says [0%]  Working
[12:47] <lJlolel> on tty4
[12:47] <syamajala> TiMiDo: i'm gonna use slax
[12:47] <syamajala> thanks
[12:47] <seethru> Hunkyspunky: you're sure it burned correctly? did you download it from ubuntu.com?
[12:47] <TiMiDo> lJlolel; it doesn't say nothing about enter a cd?
[12:47] <lJlolel> but nothing is after that
[12:47] <TiMiDo> syntaxman; go for it,
[12:47] <zblach> quick question. i'm configuring ...a program... and i'm getting something a 'NAT Error'. what is?
[12:47] <lJlolel> um, no, it was downloading from apt before
[12:47] <kennethlove> anyone have any experience with NFS?
[12:47] <TiMiDo> oh ok,
[12:48] <lJlolel> i can probably stop it now and download everything else i need later... but how do i stop it?!
[12:48] <lJlolel> ctrl+c and kill just make it restart
[12:48] <TiMiDo> lJlolel; do ps x
[12:48] <TiMiDo> and kill the pid
[12:49] <lJlolel> yea it just started again
[12:49] <lJlolel> rebooting doesn't work either
[12:49] <TiMiDo> bla,
[12:49] <TiMiDo> lJlolel; killall apt
[12:50] <lJlolel> apt: no process killed
[12:50] <lJlolel> but when i try to apt-get install something it says it's locked
[12:50] <Hunkyspunky> i downloaded from ubuntu.com
[12:50] <Hunkyspunky> and burnt iso image using nero..
[12:50] <anethema> Hunkyspunky,
[12:50] <anethema> check the hashes
[12:50] <TiMiDo> lJlolel; just do ps x and killed the pid,
[12:50] <anethema> make sure it is the same
[12:51] <anethema> if it is, there is a problem in how they built the cd, or there is a problem how you burnt it
[12:51] <anethema> too fast maybe, etc
[12:51] <anethema> or a problem with the blank
[12:51] <[A] ndy80> after upgrading my ubuntu breezy I got installed the Kubuntu-usplash. How can I turn back to Ubuntu-usplash?
[12:51] <Hunkyspunky> it boots up but when i starts to scan for hardware it fails saying it can't find this relase file and when i play around with different setup options it says its not the real ubuntu cd.
[12:51] <Hunkyspunky> but it got to be.
[12:51] <TiMiDo> [A] ndy80; apt-get remove Kubuntu-usplash and apt-get install Ubuntu-usplash
[12:51] <anethema> it means it is just a live cd
[12:51] <dooglus> Hunkyspunky: did you check the md5 of the disk?
[12:52] <anethema> yeah
[12:52] <anethema> thats what i would do
[12:52] <anethema> check the hash
[12:52] <Hunkyspunky> anethema can you pm me to help me please?
[12:52] <thompa> hi folks: anybody else having trouble opening synaptic
[12:52] <Casius> I'm having trouble starting up with the live cd. If anybody can help me out, give me a PM. thanks
[12:52] <anethema> uhhh i can in about 20mins
[12:52] <Blissex> [A] ndy80: I think the kubuntu splash is called 'kubuntu-artwork-usplash', odds are the Ubuntu splash images are in package with a similar name.
[12:52] <LazyAngel> dooglus: generic will depend on the last complete kernel available, while image will depend on just the latest. The last option is for a newer kernel. thanks for the URL.
[12:52] <anethema> just gonna run to get my gf
[12:52] <TiMiDo> thompa; what troubles are you getting?
[12:52] <anethema> just use md5sum on the .iso file
[12:52] <[A] ndy80> thanks :)
[12:52] <dooglus> LazyAngel: welcome
[12:52] <thompa> does not open
[12:52] <anethema> and check it against the one on the ubuntu.com server
[12:52] <TiMiDo> thompa; is it running?
[12:52] <thompa> either does update manager
[12:52] <Hunkyspunky> how do i chaeckt the files?
[12:53] <monger> nn
[12:53] <Hunkyspunky> check
[12:53] <anethema> you need the .iso you downloaded
[12:53] <thompa> maybe ?
[12:53] <dooglus> LazyAngel: where did you find that information?  I didn't notice it on the page I mentioned
[12:53] <Hunkyspunky> i dleeted the iso file i downloaded dam.
[12:53] <anethema> doh
[12:53] <Determinist> hmmm, would it be safe to remove all those driver packages for legacy cards? e.g. xorg-server-driver-tseng?
[12:53] <dooglus> LazyAngel: please don't answer that - it's embarrasing...
[12:53] <anethema> i would re-download
[12:53] <TiMiDo> thompa; well if it's running u cannot run it again duh
[12:53] <anethema> then burn it slower
[12:53] <anethema> on to a nice blank
[12:53] <LazyAngel> dooglus: hehe :P
[12:53] <thompa> i dont see it
[12:53] <TiMiDo> try ps x
[12:53] <jenocin> how do u use kfce for a windows manager?
[12:53] <thompa> if its running its hiding
[12:53] <TiMiDo> and see if it's running
[12:53] <DWoodley> Hello
[12:53] <Hunkyspunky> i  burnt it at 32x could that be the porblem?
[12:53] <anethema> if that doesnt work, dunno..they fucked up a package somewhere or you have some broken hardware
[12:53] <TiMiDo> DWoodley; hello
[12:53] <jenocin> got it installed already
[12:53] <dooglus> LazyAngel: I think my eyes got drawn by the pretty red blobs
[12:54] <Hunkyspunky>  i  burnt it at 32x could that be the porblem?
[12:54] <anethema> Hunkyspunky, if you have shitty media it is certainly possible
[12:54] <dooglus> Hunkyspunky: check the md5sum of the disk - then you'll know!
[12:54] <anethema> try 24.
[12:54] <LazyAngel> dooglus: i know. It was just luck that made me see the text :)
[12:54] <jenocin> xfce I mean
[12:54] <anethema> dooglus, how do you check the md5 of the whole disc
[12:54] <DWoodley> I was wondering if someone could direct me to someone who can help me join the Desktop Team
[12:54] <TiMiDo> anethema: dd path of the disk
[12:54] <[A] ndy80> TiMiDo: usplash is already installed on my system... do I have to dpkg-reconfigure the kernel image too?
[12:54] <anethema> he doesnt have the iso he downloaded
[12:54] <dooglus> anethema: I would dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum
[12:54] <Hunkyspunky> how to check the md5sum on disk?
[12:54] <TiMiDo> [A] ndy80: not really
[12:55] <Hunkyspunky> i'm downloading the siuo again.
[12:55] <anethema> yeah but, might change the sum
[12:55] <dooglus> (or something like that)
[12:55] <anethema> burning to disc with nero then getting it back off
[12:55] <anethema> i wouldnt trust that
[12:55] <anethema> maybe the label is one off..some weird disc mode thing..anything
[12:55] <gloria> what should i add to the repository to give me w32codes, vorbistools, livdvdcss2, etc.???
[12:55] <dooglus> anethema: it's an image - burning it should make an exact copy.
[12:55] <anethema> one bit different and the sum totally changes
[12:55] <dooglus> it's not like you created the iso - you just download it and burn it, bit for bit
[12:55] <mylastmorning> for limewire do you download the RPM?
[12:55] <woodwizzle> I'm running breezy with beagle. How do I turn live-queries on?
[12:55] <DWoodley> Is it possible for someone to help me with joining the Desktop Team
[12:56] <TiMiDo> DWoodley: huh?
[12:56] <anethema> i guess
[12:56] <dooglus> anethema: one bit shouldn't change!
[12:56] <anethema> i would be wary, but try it
[12:56] <DWoodley> I saw it on the ubuntu site
[12:56] <TiMiDo> DWoodley: where?
[12:56] <DWoodley> Let me find the link
[12:56] <mylastmorning> anethema were you talking to me?
[12:56] <gloria> what should i add to the repository to give me w32codes, vorbistools, livdvdcss2, etc.???
[12:56] <Hunkyspunky> no i can't do this i'l just wait for the cd to ship.
[12:56] <anethema> maybe he changed the label...maybe he dindt use some error correction (mode 2) or somehting and maybe that would change a few bits
[12:56] <concept10> DWoodley, goto #ubuntu-desktop
[12:56] <Hunkyspunky> thansks.
[12:56] <anethema> who knows
[12:56] <anethema> mylastmorning, nope :)
[12:56] <mylastmorning> ok, ^_^
[12:57] <TiMiDo> !tell gloria about w32codes.
[12:57] <TiMiDo> !tell gloria about w32codes
[12:57] <mylastmorning> anyone use LIMEWIRE?
[12:57] <TiMiDo> bla
[12:57] <zack_> XFCE rules!
[12:57] <TiMiDo> zack_: cool,
[12:57] <thompa> TiMiDo: nevermind . it seems the other user i created dis not have admin task privilages
[12:57] <bimberi> ubotu tell gloria about hoary-extras
[12:57] <zack_> only fuss i have with it is no desktop icons
[12:57] <bimberi> ubotu tell gloria about w32codecs
[12:57] <TiMiDo> oh ok thompa
[12:58] <dooglus> LazyAngel: so "linux" is the kernel, which consists of the kernal image (linux-image) and the restricted modules (linux-restricted-modules).  since you probably want both parts, you want to use "linux-amd64-generic".
[12:58] <thompa> zack_: you got xfce running?
[12:58] <zack_> yes
[12:58] <Determinist> TiMiDo, would it be safe to remove all those xorg-server-driver-* packages that have been installed by default? i have the nvidia driver installed and functional and have no use for legacy driver support...
[12:58] <thompa> im going to try it next
[12:58] <TiMiDo> Determinist: nope don't remove those packages,
[12:59] <Determinist> TiMiDo, what are those for?
[12:59] <dooglus> Determinist: I tried it once, and it tried to take the whole of x.org with it.
[12:59] <thompa> dont mess with xorg!
[12:59] <TiMiDo> well xorg-server is you'r X display to run gnome kde fluxbox etc, etc,
[12:59] <Determinist> that's really bad package management then :/
[12:59] <TiMiDo> yeap Determinist look around for the drivers though don't give up!
[12:59] <dooglus> TiMiDo: there are a whole bunch of modules I don't need - like all those fancy video cards that I don't have
[01:00] <TiMiDo> dooglus: true,
[01:00] <fmasi_> Some one have enny idia why my netwhork bord is limiting my download at 17Kb/s while i the other pc i get 32 ???
[01:00] <luite> is there a good IDE for C++ in ubuntu that has intellisense like capabilities?
[01:00] <TiMiDo> luite: apt-cache search c++
[01:00] <TiMiDo> and see what you get,
[01:00] <dooglus> TiMiDo: but I think the way it's set up is that the top xorg package depends on all the rest - so if you remove any of the video drivers, you lose the top xorg package too
[01:01] <dooglus> maybe it's just an empty metapackage, so it wouldn't matter, but I didn't explore any further
[01:01] <TiMiDo> dooglus: well it's a big messed, though it's always good to have experienced to messed around with those files manipulating files, and stuff
[01:01] <large_muscles> Can someone send me their sources.list please?
[01:02] <dooglus> TiMiDo: the way I see it, I can always reinstall if I mess things up badly enough.  And then there's always the XP dual boot if I get desperate...
[01:02] <TiMiDo> large_muscles: do apt-setup
[01:02] <dooglus> large_muscles: breezy or hoary?
[01:02] <TiMiDo> dooglus: well, then try messing with it, manipulating stuff, then good luck,
[01:02] <large_muscles> dooglus: Hoary
[01:02] <LazyAngel> dooglus: too late. i went for the 2.6.12 kernel. i think i read something about some support for my raid. But i doubt i will get it to work.
[01:02] <dooglus> large_muscles: I suggest you do apt-setup if that works...
[01:03] <TiMiDo> yeah apt-setup should work sudo apt-setup
[01:03] <Zalbor> Hi, could someone tell me how to mount a USB flash drive manually? It doesn't mount automatically for me.
[01:03] <large_muscles> TiMiDo: I don't have an Ubuntu CD though.
[01:03] <dooglus> LazyAngel: what's the deal with amd64 and breezy?  is it supported?
[01:03] <TiMiDo> large_muscles: you don't need to have an ubuntu cd to do that,
[01:03] <TiMiDo> Zalbor: sure ask ahead
[01:03] <large_muscles> TiMiDo: It's asking me to insert one.
[01:03] <TiMiDo> ah,
[01:04] <LazyAngel> dooglus: i dont know
[01:04] <large_muscles> TiMiDo: Sorry, I think I got it.
[01:04] <Zalbor> TiMiDo, what do you mean ask ahead?
[01:04] <TiMiDo> Zalbor: do this as root, sudo mount /media/<manufacturer>/
[01:04] <dooglus> LazyAngel: when I searched at packages.ubuntu.com I didn't see any amd64 kernel for breezy
[01:04] <large_muscles> TiMiDo: Now do I choose http or ftp?
[01:04] <TiMiDo> large_muscles: http or ftp whatever you want,
[01:04] <dooglus> large_muscles: some decisions in life you have to make for yourself
[01:05] <Zalbor> TiMiDo, the directory in /media does not exist. It used to create it whenever I put the drive in and delete it when I unmounted.
[01:05] <jenocin> how do you change the gnome window manager?
[01:05] <large_muscles> TiMiDo: It always seems to time out when trying to connect to archive.ubuntu.com
[01:05] <jenocin> http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg
[01:05] <demianmax> has anyone come across this error install perl modules from cpan? 'mkdir /usr/local/man: File exists at /usr/share/perl/5.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 112'
[01:05] <TiMiDo> ok great,
[01:05] <TiMiDo> give me a second Zalbor
[01:06] <TiMiDo> Zalbor: do this sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart
[01:06] <TiMiDo> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/flash
[01:06] <dooglus> LazyAngel: ok, so I'm still an idiot.  the search form on packages.u.c defaults to only searching for hoary packages.  breezy supports amd64 of course, here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-amd64-generic
[01:06] <mylastmorning> how do I uninstall .run file? like doom3?
[01:06] <LazyAngel> dooglus: hmm... i just assumed it was supported.
[01:06] <TiMiDo> mylastmorning: man update.rc
[01:06] <LazyAngel> dooglus: hehe
[01:07] <dooglus> LazyAngel: breezy has kernel 2.6.12.16 - you're not tempted?
[01:07] <mylastmorning> TiMiDo, it doesn't show anything.
[01:07] <TiMiDo> mylastmorning: bla hold up
[01:08] <mylastmorning> TiMiDo, ok.
[01:08] <TiMiDo> mylastmorning: whereis file, and then make deinstall
[01:08] <mylastmorning> ummm
[01:08] <Zalbor> TiMiDo, the hotplug restart doesn't fix it (though it says [ok] ). And sda1 isn't the flash drive, I don't know what the file in /dev is
[01:08] <ubuntuuser678> hi, could anyone help me, when i type "who" it comes up with 3 users although it should really only be one
[01:08] <TiMiDo> Zalbor: do lspci
[01:08] <TiMiDo> and look at it
[01:08] <TiMiDo> ubuntuuser678: do w
[01:09] <ubuntuuser678> k
[01:09] <ubuntuuser678> it comes up with "herrpoon" three times
[01:09] <ubuntuuser678> which is me
[01:09] <mylastmorning> TiMiDo, what did you ask of me?
[01:09] <LazyAngel> dooglus: 2.6.12-8 was the newest on the cd
[01:09] <TiMiDo> hold up,
[01:09] <TiMiDo> brb
[01:10] <dooglus> LazyAngel: it's 2.6.12-9 now
[01:10] <LazyAngel> but now i dont know where to install GRUB... i'm using software raid...
[01:10] <demianmax> ubuntuuser678: they probably have a :0, pts/1 and pts/2 after them right?
[01:10] <Kris_k> Hey whats a good Media Player for both Music/Movies or Whats a good one for  Music
[01:10] <sorush20> my spell checker has suddenly stoped working in openffice how can I fix this?
[01:10] <Zalbor> TiMiDo, the flash drive apparently is /dev/sdb, thanks. I had no idea what kind of file it was supposed to appear as.
[01:10] <ubuntuuser678> yep
[01:11] <ubuntuuser678> what does that mean?
[01:11] <demianmax> ubuntuuser678: it's fine, just different TTY connections
[01:11] <ubuntuuser678> cool thanks
[01:11] <seethru> Kris_k: amaroK for music IMO
[01:11] <informant> Kris_k: rhytmbox or xmms are decent (different UI) for music, I like mplayer for movies/DVDs/etc.
[01:11] <informant> *rhythmbox
[01:12] <demianmax> Kris_k: amarok for music, mplayer or (my favorite) VLC for movies
[01:12] <demianmax> has anyone come across this error install perl modules from cpan? 'mkdir /usr/local/man: File exists at /usr/share/perl/5.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 112'
[01:12] <mylastmorning> how do you install rpm's?
[01:13] <umberleigh> it's got brilliant playlist features ;)
[01:13] <Kris_k> Dude Ubuntu Is awsome
[01:13] <informant> mylastmorning: `rpm -Uvh [package] `
[01:13] <Kris_k> the Synaptic Package manager is awsome !
[01:13] <demianmax> mylastmorning: look at the alien package to use rpms etc
[01:13] <informant> mylastmorning: that will install or upgrade; although, that is for RPM-based systems.. on Ubuntu, you might be better off compiling from source, or finding a Ubuntu/Debian package
[01:14] <mylastmorning> how do you run deb files?
[01:14] <demianmax> mylastmorning: you can use alien to install rpms and other packages onto a debian based machine like ubuntu
[01:14] <funkyHat> mylastmorning, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:14] <demianmax> mylastmorning: i'd stick with deb files though, much easier
[01:15] <Casius> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72022 - can't get ubuntu to startup on the live cd, can anybody help?
[01:16] <dooglus> is there a czech #ubuntu anywhere?
[01:16] <Kris_k> does AmaroK do .pls ?
[01:17] <jenocin> amorok plays music
[01:17] <demianmax> Kris_k: yeah it does .pls playlist files
[01:17] <Kensey> Anybody else here been trying to get a Ralink 2500-based USB device to work with AES?
[01:18] <Kris_k> when trying to do a radio station .pls it says buffering but keeps rebuffering over and over
[01:18] <demianmax> has anyone come across this error install perl modules from cpan? 'mkdir /usr/local/man: File exists at /usr/share/perl/5.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 112'
[01:18] <dooglus> demianmax: someone was asking about that just a few minutes ago.  It seems quite common.
[01:19] <dooglus> demianmax: did you try installing the modules using apt-get instead?
[01:21] <demianmax> dooglus: it's not in the repository
[01:21] <joe__> how do i add someone to the sudo list?
[01:21] <nalioth> joe__: system > admin > users and groups
[01:21] <demianmax> dooglus: I was trying to build a package with dh-make-perl
[01:21] <joe__> nalioth, um, the initial user doesn't have the ability (long story), what is the text command?
[01:22] <nalioth> joe__: you got to be kiddin me
[01:22] <Kris_k> okay Armork is playing the .pls but i cant hear it hmm lol
[01:22] <demianmax> dooglus: then i gave up, i need it (this is my work dev machine) so i've tried make install, cpan, they all have the same error
[01:22] <joe__> nalioth, it's okay i have root access
[01:22] <Cashel> howdies.... anyone running Apache2 will SSL?? Cant seem to find the mod-ssl package in breezy's repos....
[01:22] <nalioth> joe__: "man visudo"
[01:23] <dooglus> demianmax: which package?
[01:23] <mylastmorning> how do I uninstall doom 3?
[01:23] <IorGie> How do I start PureFTPD at bootup?
[01:24] <TokenBad> how do I set the pacific time in kubuntu?
[01:24] <demianmax> dooglus: Benchmark::Timer
[01:24] <TokenBad> shoot
[01:24] <TokenBad> wrong channel
[01:24] <dooglus> ok, i'll try it
[01:24] <dooglus> (is it possible to get gnome-terminal to automatically copy selected text to the copy/paste buffer?
[01:24] <bimberi> Casius: hard to know what's wrong, give some of the boot options (press F1 at the boot prompt) a try
[01:25] <dooglus> if the window is scrolling, it's hard to hit 'copy' before the scroll unselects it)
[01:25] <joe__> nalioth, hmm, okay i added the account, thanks !
[01:25] <demianmax> dooglus: i don't know, that would be nice.
[01:25] <mylastmorning> nalioth, how do I uninstall doom 3 it is a .run file.
[01:25] <thefoot> hi
[01:25] <Casius> bimberi: tried almost all of them, no help =\
[01:25] <thefoot> anyone able to install VMTools w/ Ubuntu?
[01:25] <dooglus> demianmax: xterm does it, so I guess it's not that hard.
[01:25] <cafuego_> mylastmorning: sh ./foo.run
[01:26] <dooglus> alternatively, having the text stay selected as it scrolls would be OK, but since irssi is a curses app, maybe it's not possible
[01:26] <cafuego_> mylastmorning: 'sh ./foo.run --help' even, it might have an uninstall flag.
[01:26] <joe__> hahahaha, the command nice outputs 0
[01:26] <funkyHat> do i need to set user_xattr for my /home partition to use beagle?
[01:26] <Casius> Is it possible the startup hanging is because of the graphics card. I had the same kind of problem when I was installing XP, so I went into safemode and put on the omega drivers. I don't know anything like that with ubuntu though
[01:26] <demianmax> having two copy/paste buffers is just irritating sometimes though
[01:26] <cafuego_> dooglus: just scroll up in irssi, that makes it stop scrolling.
[01:26] <baboon> i have just been reading about the file association mess and my head hurts.
[01:27] <cafuego_> demianmax: Agreed. I prefer 3 :-)  (screen)
[01:27] <nalioth> mylastmorning: unfortunately, if you've run it, i'm sure you have q3 stuff littering your system
[01:27] <baboon> is there really not an easy way to make vlc instead of totem open when i double click on an .mpg file?
[01:27] <dooglus> cafuego_: ok, good point.  but in general, I'd like not to have to hit the complicated key sequence I've mapped 'copy' to
[01:27] <nalioth> baboon: right click on nautilus and select the properties or open with or whatever
[01:27] <funkyHat> baboon, of course there is, right click on any mpg file, and click properties
[01:27] <baboon> it appears old versions of gnome had a gui for this but the current one doesn't because of the free desktop standard. is this correct?
[01:27] <cevizoglu> baboon, go to application helpers and change it
[01:27] <funkyHat> oo, sorry nalioth :P
[01:28] <xena> hii
[01:28] <dooglus> demianmax: you using the latest version, 0.7100?
[01:28] <baboon> application helpers?
[01:28] <cafuego_> baboon: right click an mpg file, choose Properties, click the 'Open with...' tab.
[01:28] <marska> Howdy.. Trying to play Wesnoth online, but the version available is out of date.. Um.. How do I find an updated version? Sure its available for Debian
[01:28] <Cashel> Casius, wasnt following your problem, is your machine booting but freezing after all the dmesg stuff?
[01:28] <cevizoglu> baboon, System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[01:28] <baboon> does the "open with" dialog have the ability to change it for all .mpg files?
[01:28] <cafuego_> baboon: Why don't you check and see?
[01:28] <Casius> Don't know about dmesg, but it was loading the OS components
[01:28] <cevizoglu> baboon, oops, ignore me
[01:28] <xena> >>
[01:28] <Cashel> baboon, it adds whatever you add, right click properties on an mpg to set the default..
[01:28] <dooglus> cafuego_: I just thought of a problem with your suggestion...  if I scroll up, then the text I want to copy disappears off the bottom!!
[01:28] <baboon> cevizoglu, preferred applications doesn't set preferred applications for file types. Only web,email,terminal.
[01:28] <xena> fire
[01:29] <cevizoglu> baboon, read above
[01:29] <baboon> ok
[01:29] <cafuego_> dooglus: Wait for a moment until you scroll up? ;-)
[01:29] <funkyHat> yes, the open with tab is for all files of the same type
[01:29] <xena> gg
[01:29] <[A] ndy80> a note for the OP's: the tinyurl in the topic points to Colony 5 while Preview is available
[01:29] <dooglus> cafuego_: what if the room isn't scrolling very often - only (in a 'sod's law' kind of way) just when you're about to hit 'copy'?
[01:29] <lsuactiafner> dooglus : lol
[01:30] <marska> Howdy.. Trying to play Wesnoth online, but when I go online, says I require version 1.0 (I'm running 9.7 which seems to be the only one available through apt). Is there something I'm missing?
[01:30] <demianmax> dooglus: yeah, although i just got the 0.6.1 version to install
[01:30] <cafuego_> dooglus: I run irssi in screen; that way you just hit ^a-esc to make it stop at any point
[01:30] <funkyHat> do i need to set user_xattr for my /home partition to use beagle?
[01:30] <[A] ndy80> is Colony 5 newer than Preview?
[01:30] <Cashel> Casius, to get a command prompt only working, you can pass the 'single' boot option to the grub loader, then when it lets you log in, you can mv /etc/init.d/gdm ~/ so it doesnt try to load X by default...
[01:30] <geppy> I was working on setting up a squid proxy on my Ubuntu Hoary box, and set up squid, ran `ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 promisc up` and ` ifconfig eth1 0.0.0.0 promisc up`;  now my box doesn't have internet any more
[01:30] <dooglus> cafuego_: I run irssi in screen too.  hmmm
[01:30] <baboon> Cashel, cevizoglu, thanks for the assistence
[01:30] <geppy> I've uninstalled squid and rebooted, run ifup, run ifdown, and run out of ideas
[01:30] <Casius> Okay, I'll try that in a little bit
[01:30] <dooglus> didn't think of using copy/paste mode as a way to stop the scrolling.
[01:30] <cafuego_> dooglus: well then
[01:31] <baboon> so can someone show me where it's stored on disk now? just cause i'm curious.
[01:31] <funkyHat> that setting?
[01:31] <baboon> i get the impression it's under /usr/share/application-registry but i can't find where anything is mapped to totem in there.
[01:31] <marska> So no one is familiar with Wesnoth?
[01:31] <cafuego_> baboon: ~/.gconf(d)
[01:31] <funkyHat> it will be in your nautilus settings...
[01:32] <dooglus> demianmax: no problem at all installing the newest version.
[01:32] <cafuego_> baboon: Good luck with that mess of XML files... it's as much joy as the windows registry.
[01:32] <dooglus> demianmax: using "perl Makefile.PL && make && make test && make install"
[01:32] <dooglus> demianmax: Installing /usr/local/man/man3/Benchmark::Timer.3pm
[01:33] <baboon> cafuego, yeah i see that. thanks for showing me where it is though.
[01:33] <cafuego_> hint: install cpan stuff via dh-make-perl.
[01:34] <Omarkj> I'm having a probelm with a fan-always-on problem in Breezy on a TP R52, any information ?
[01:34] <funkyHat> are extended attributes enabled in the kernel in breezy?
[01:34] <demianmax> dooglus: you running breezy?
[01:34] <gimco> hello
[01:34] <dooglus> yeah
[01:35] <dooglus> you?
[01:35] <Cashel> So, is there a mod_ssl package for Apache2 in breezy? Anyone? Can't seem to find any under any sensible name...
[01:35] <demianmax> yeah
[01:36] <demianmax> weird, i must have messed something up, most likely something to do with my man directories
[01:36] <demianmax> i'll try to find the diff with my home box. thanks for the help.
[01:36] <dooglus> ok...  (not that I helped at all)
[01:37] <glick> hi all
[01:38] <demianmax> dooglus: well since it works for someone else i know that the error is my fault not someone elses
[01:38] <crispynix> Cashel: maybe it's not longer a mod? apache-ssl exists
[01:38] <dooglus> Cashel: how about "apache-ssl"???
[01:38] <Omarkj> It seems to be something related to both IBM ACPI as well as Breezy since I did not have this problem in Hoary.
[01:38] <Cashel> apache-ssl is for apache 1.3
[01:38] <Cashel> running apache 2..
[01:38] <crispynix> sorry :)
[01:38] <dooglus> Cashel: "libapache-mod-ssl" then?
[01:38] <mxpxpod> does anyone know how to set up dns2go on ubuntu?
[01:38] <Cashel> not at all...
[01:38] <dooglus> (and "libapache-mod-ssl-doc"
[01:39] <Determinist> which sound driver would be of best quality? the one bmp is using sounds like shit, nothing to be compared with the windows XP sound quality :/
[01:39] <Cashel> seems to be for 1.3 as well... I was wondering if you had to use the old stuff but apache2 doc's say no and the folks in ubuntu-motu arent answering (I am no doubt not unworthy :P )
[01:40] <demianmax> wouldn't it be libapache2-mod-ssl?
[01:40] <Determinist> !w32codecs
[01:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[01:40] <dooglus> Cashel: that's a quadruple negative
[01:41] <thefoot> so... anyone able to install VMTools within Ubuntu?
[01:41] <puff> I would like to be able to view Quicktime or Windows Media or RealPlayer files.
[01:41] <Cashel> dooglus, hmm?
[01:41] <demianmax> ah, the apache2-common deb has the ssl-mod
[01:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell puff about restricted
[01:41] <glick> excuse me
[01:42] <glick> im trying to figure out how to make all of my data available everywhere
[01:42] <glick> i have 1 highspeed cable line
[01:42] <Cashel> ummm , apache2 is saying it doesnt recognize the ssl registers...
[01:42] <dooglus> Cashel: "no doubt" is a double negative, meaning "surely".  and "not unworthy" is another double negative, meaning "worthy".  So you reckon you're surely worthy?
[01:42] <glick> NATed
[01:42] <glick> a 250gig firewire portable harddrive and a server machine with a gig of ram a p3 cpu and 150 gig harddrive space
[01:42] <Cashel> lol I edited that line and forgot to delete, heh
[01:43] <glick> besides having access to all of my data from anywhere id also like to run ssh and cvs on the server
[01:43] <Cashel> Invalid command 'SSLCipherSuite', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[01:43] <Cashel> Any ideas?
[01:43] <demianmax> cashel: if you have apache2-common then you have mod_ssl, perhaps it's not enabled? or your config is wrong?
[01:43] <puff> nalioth:  The ubuntu realplayer package is out of date, and a search turns up no occurrence of "quick".  "Windows" only shows a reference to windows Itunes in the itunes section.
[01:44] <IorGie> glick: just install any ftp deamon
[01:44] <demianmax> (sorry it's been a while since i used apache...every since i tried lighttpd out actually)
[01:44] <glick> should i keep my firewire drive attached to my laptop or should i attach it to my server
[01:44] <Cashel> how does one enable it? I was following the instructions for config and it didnt mention anything but the config.. ?
[01:44] <demianmax> s/every/ever/
[01:44] <puff> nalioth: How about http://www.linuxforums.org/tutorials/1/tutorial-25783.html
[01:45] <Omarkj> Does anybody know how to change between power safe modes manually ?
[01:45] <puff> nalioth: Hm, that looks like it's for warthog.
[01:45] <glick> i figure if i run all these services on my laptop
[01:45] <demianmax> cashel: if i remember correctly you need to put a link to the mod in the mods-available folder in the mods-enabled folder
[01:45] <glick> and take away the NAT router
[01:45] <glick> it will make my pc very vulnerable
[01:46] <IorGie> glick: you can set up a ftpd behind a nat without a pain
[01:46] <Kris_k> when trying to build from the source i get this error checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:46] <glick> IorGie, i have a laptop with a combined ram of 1 gig a 2.4 gig cpu, and 40gig internal drive and a 250 gig external drive
[01:46] <anethema> hey Kris_k
[01:47] <glick> i figure why not make that a server
[01:47] <anethema> ever get the ati thing working
[01:47] <glick> and my work machine
[01:47] <nalioth> Kris_k: install 'build-essential'
[01:47] <glick> but then im like thats dangerous
[01:47] <glick> is it not?
[01:47] <frogman> hello
[01:47] <Cashel> demianmax! AHH! Now you'd think the apache2 > ssl documentation would have mentioned that little fact, hehe thanks a ton..
[01:48] <fmasi_> Ei where is the mysql root password stored wen i finish instaling it by apt ?
[01:48] <demianmax> cashel: no prob...i'm impressed with myself that i remembered that...not even having apache installed on this machine. but i went through the same thing you just did.
[01:48] <keikoz> hi$
[01:48] <demianmax> cashel: guess it stuck in my head
[01:48] <nalioth> puff: that is a very old howto
[01:48] <funkyHat> fmasi_, in the database named 'mysql'
[01:48] <frogman> i just heard about ubuntu having a picture of semi-naked people. is it the welcome screen here? http://www.monkeyc.net.nyud.net:8090/ubuntu/nu-ubuntu1.jpg (yes, i realise its old news)
[01:48] <puff> nalioth: Yeah, I'm figuring that out :-).
[01:49] <fmasi_> funkyHat in ubuntu how do i start stop a service ? i used to redhat
[01:49] <Cashel> yeah I was buggin out, in the old apache I didnt have to do it.... maybe it was preconfigured tho.... hard to say since I toasted it long ago, he
[01:49] <glick> is that not dangerous?
[01:49] <funkyHat> fmasi_, have a look for the script for that service in /etc/init.d
[01:49] <glick> if i do what i am thinking of doing?
[01:49] <fmasi_> funkyHat then i can add start at end of it ?
[01:50] <nalioth> frogman: those people have clothes on
[01:50] <funkyHat> yes, start stop or restart usually work
[01:50] <funkyHat> depending on the script
[01:50] <fmasi_> funkyHat ok thx
[01:50] <imterro> hey guys, what is a wpa_supplicant package?
[01:50] <funkyHat> :)
[01:50] <frogman> nevermind. i found it. damn. i started using ubuntu too late and missed the naked people surprise
[01:50] <demianmax> cashel: yeah the old apache you had a list of mods in the httpd.conf file, so you had to add it here, now you just put them in the mods-enabled directory
[01:50] <nalioth> frogman: install all the "ubuntu-calendar" packages
[01:51] <frogman> i just incremented the image title to nu-ubuntu3.jpg
[01:51] <demianmax> cashel: a much better system i think
[01:52] <Surak> Hello, I would like to ask about issues with grub and ubuntu on big hard drives
[01:52] <Surak> is anyone aware of it?
[01:52] <imterro> can anyone tell me?
[01:52] <imterro> wpa_supplicant package? any ideas what it is?
[01:53] <funkyHat> something to do with WiFi authentication?
[01:53] <Surak> yes
[01:53] <imterro> ahh sweet
[01:53] <imterro> thanks
[01:53] <Surak> WPA and WPA2 are methods for securing wireless networks, the former
[01:53] <Surak> using IEEE 802.1X, and the latter using IEEE 802.11i. This software
[01:53] <Surak> provides key negotiation with the WPA Authenticator, and controls
[01:53] <Surak> association with IEEE 802.11i networks.
[01:53] <imterro> so it would be good to have hten :P
[01:53] <imterro> Surak, thankks so much
[01:54] <frogman> nice
[01:54] <glick> hey if  de-NAT myself i will need a firewall wont i?
[01:54] <puff> Hm, w32codecs package.
[01:54] <nalioth> Surak: please dont paste in here
[01:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell puff about w32codecs
[01:55] <Determinist> how can i allow a user (mine) to write to a partition that was mounted under /mnt/winxpdat/ , it keeps saying i have no permissions to do this
[01:55] <crimsun> Determinist: you need to pass umask=022 to mount
[01:55] <Kensey> glick: or a SELinux or OpenBSD system :)
[01:55] <Determinist> crimsun, thanks
[01:55] <frogman> its more like conservative artistic expression of naked people than porno in my opinion..
[01:55] <Determinist> !fstab
[01:55] <ubotu> Determinist: Syntax error in line 1
[01:55] <jbalint> How do I make the items on the taskbar not group together.
[01:55] <Determinist> erm
[01:56] <glick> hmm i dont know much about setting up firewalls :(
[01:56] <Determinist> what's the url for that fstab auto mounter?
[01:56] <Determinist> the script... that is
[01:56] <Kensey> Determinist: you have to have ntfs write support in the kernel first
[01:56] <Determinist> Kensey, fat32 :)
[01:56] <Kensey> ew! :P
[01:56] <Determinist> ew?
[01:56] <Determinist> as in ntfs is better?
[01:56] <Determinist> how is it better, pray tell?
[01:57] <glick> is there anyway i can set up ssh on two different systems behind a NAT?
[01:57] <demianmax> uh...isn't ntfs write support still very beta
[01:57] <thefoot> Does default Ubuntu installation install make?
[01:57] <Kensey> demian: oh yeah.
[01:57] <Determinist> demianmax, it is
[01:57] <crimsun> glick: yes, but you need to forward ports on the machine doing the NATing
[01:57] <demianmax> as in, kernel ntfs support might corrupt the filesystem
[01:57] <frogman> glick: port-forwarding on your router's firewall
[01:57] <Kensey> Det: NTFS is a journaling filesystem
[01:57] <Rounin> Anyone here successfully used the SCIM line of input methods in Breezy yet?
[01:57] <glick> crimsun, yes but ssh by default runs on port 22
[01:57] <glick> so one of them will have to run on the nondefault port right?
[01:57] <concept10> thefoot, no
[01:57] <Kensey> it's much more tolerant of things like power failures that interrupt disk operations
[01:57] <puff> nalioth: Odd, aptitude search w32codec turned it up, but aptitude install w32codecs said "no candidate"
[01:57] <Determinist> Kensey, ntfs adds permissions and encryption support. for the avrage home user it has no benefit.
[01:58] <imterro> hmm all these guides want me to reboot my linux... weird hey
[01:58] <imterro> ?
[01:58] <crimsun> glick: that's irrelevant. What you need to do is forward port X on your firewall to port 22 on one machine, and say X+Y to port 22 on the other
[01:58] <thefoot> concept10:  how would i install a C complier?
[01:58] <cafuego_> demianmax: As in kernel ntfs (writing) WILL corrupt the filesystem
[01:58] <crimsun> glick: where Y!=0
[01:58] <Kensey> in any case, I suppressed all my memories of dealing with FAT32 disk issues.  they were just too painful.
[01:58] <demianmax> cafuego_: ha, ok, well that "might" is the reason i never used it.
[01:58] <Determinist> never had no issues with fat32...
[01:58] <concept10> thefoot, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:59] <Kensey> but one thing I do know, various drivers automagically restrict permissions on the filesystems mounted using them
[01:59] <concept10> !be
[01:59] <ubotu> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:59] <Kensey> f'rex, ntfs partitions by default are mounted with read permission for root only
[01:59] <frogman> it'd be a good idea to have ssh running on a nonstandard port anyways so port scanners have to work a little harder
[01:59] <cafuego_> Kensey: On Linux? No, they just use a sane default on filesystems that don't support ANY ownership .
[01:59] <baboon> cafuego, the "open with" didn't set it for all files of that type.
[02:00] <concept10> hmm, didnt know that was there
[02:00] <Kensey> so you will want to put an option in your fstab to mount it with a umask appropriate to what you want
[02:00] <baboon> it appears to stick for the individual file, but not others with the same extension
[02:00] <Determinist> !ubotu fat32
[02:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, fat32 is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[02:00] <cafuego_> baboon: That's naughty. It should of.
[02:00] <glick> hey does dsl offer static multiple ip addresses to customers?
[02:00] <Kensey> I think for my ntfs I did something like put umask=0222 in the mount options
[02:01] <Whyvas> is there a better wireless connection manager than the one that comes with breezy??
[02:01] <frogman> usually for like $5 per ip
[02:01] <crispynix> glick: depends on the isp, and some may charge extra
[02:01] <cafuego_> glick: dsl is a protocol. Did you have an isp in mind?
[02:01] <thefoot> concept10:  do i need access to internet?
[02:01] <glick> i kow roadrunner charges extra
[02:01] <baboon> it seems like that dialog ought to have a checkbox for "always use this program for this type of file" like windows does.
[02:01] <glick> cafuego, verison
[02:01] <cafuego_> glick: no idea then
[02:01] <concept10> thefoot, to install b-e?
[02:01] <cafuego_> glick: Probably on a business (= expensive) account, I'd expect.
[02:02] <thefoot> concept10:  yes
[02:02] <Hendric> gud morning everyone... just woke up. hehe
[02:02] <concept10> thefoot, i would imagine so, unless its on the cdrom which I don t know.
[02:02] <Kensey> Determinist: are you mounting it ro or rw in fstab?
[02:03] <`psycho> hi ppl
[02:03] <`psycho> is there somwhere a list of scsi controllers that are supported by linux/ubuntu ?
[02:03] <concept10> \quit
[02:03] <`psycho> lol
[02:04] <Hendric> i found some annoying problems with LVM... 1) you can't grub-install on it. 2) you can't ghost it on smaller drives.
[02:04] <Kensey> anybody able to point me at a HOWTO or offer advice for moving a directory structure physically from one partition to another?
[02:04] <anethema> use nautilus
[02:04] <anethema> hehe
[02:04] <anethema> edit-cut
[02:04] <puff> nalioth: Hm, which mplayer package should I install?  I'm on a 586 machine, but I'm running the stock  ubuntu kernel (until Breezy is officially released, then I do this whole dance all over again - I'm taking notes this time around :-).
[02:04] <anethema> edit-past
[02:04] <anethema> e
[02:04] <glick> screw it i think ill just setup ssh on my laptop with a free domain name from dyndns
[02:04] <glick> im a poor college student
[02:05] <glick> i dont have the time or the money to set up fancy home networks
[02:05] <Kensey> I assumer I boot in single-user mode, mount the filesystems, copy the files over, remove them from the old drive, and edit /etc/fstab as appropriate?
[02:05] <glick> i just want to be able to access my lappie from campus
[02:05] <glick> cause i usually dont take it anywhere
[02:05] <puff> glick: Static IPs, etc, are all highly variable depending on the service and plan you have;  very uncommon in cable, but possible in DSL, most often requires a fee.
[02:05] <Determinist> Kensey, rw
[02:05] <puff> glick: Most people that I know just use dyndns.
[02:05] <dooglus> Kensey: that's about it.  but use 'tar' instead of 'cp', 'cos it knows about dates, owners, groups, permissions, symlinks, et.
[02:05] <glick> puff, yeah ill just use dyndns
[02:05] <dooglus> c.
[02:05] <Determinist> Kensey, any idea how to make mount reprocess fstab?
[02:05] <Aven> hi
[02:06] <zer0`> mount -a
[02:06] <Aven> how do I login as "root" in ubuntu?
[02:06] <Determinist> Aven, you dont
[02:06] <dooglus> use sudo instead
[02:06] <Aven> ...
[02:06] <concept10> !rootsudo
[02:06] <Aven> well, some programs require me to login as root
[02:06] <ubotu> rootsudo is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:06] <Determinist> Aven, as your default user just use sudo at the command line, that'll provide root privileges
[02:06] <Kensey> there's a remount option to mount
[02:06] <Aven> what's the command? :P
[02:07] <Quinthius> Aven: you can do something like "sudo -s -H"
[02:07] <concept10> Aven, read the page
[02:07] <Determinist> Aven, sudo <command you need root permissions for>
[02:07] <Hendric> dooglus, any ideas on resizing my LVM drive without compromising my system???
[02:07] <dooglus> Hendric: nope, sorry.
[02:07] <Whyvas> is there a better wireless connection manager than the one that comes with breezy??
[02:07] <dooglus> Hendric: crappy old notebook here, no LVM.
[02:07] <Kensey> as root, try mount -o remount <whatever>
[02:08] <concept10> Whyvas, wifi-radar
[02:08] <Hendric> dooglus: how about transferring everything to a non LVM partition?? any help?
[02:08] <Whyvas> thanks
[02:08] <Kensey> that should reread the flags from /etc/fstab and remount the drive with updated flags
[02:08] <Hendric> dooglus: i can't reinstall to a new FS since i had it customized that i can't remember them all
[02:08] <knoppix> hi!
[02:09] <Oeaa> I'm having a problem with hoary...
[02:09] <thefoot> "Please either recompile your kernel with "usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config-tools.pl with CC environment variable point to teh "gcc" version "3.4.5"
[02:09] <Oeaa> Out of nowhere getting kernel panic on boot.
[02:09] <Oeaa> Had to boot with knoppix
[02:09] <thefoot> how do i change teh CC environmental var
[02:09] <Kensey> Oeaa: you haven't recompiled your kernel or changed menu.lst?
[02:09] <Oeaa> nope
[02:10] <Oeaa> didn't change anything
[02:10] <Oeaa> the only thing I can think of, is I had auto download updates checked
[02:10] <Oeaa> and it was updating kernel, someone rebooted my machine?
[02:10] <Oeaa> only thing i can think of
[02:10] <Quinthius> Oeaa: would help to know what error it's panicking on :P
[02:10] <Oeaa> hold on
[02:10] <Oeaa> i will show you
[02:10] <Quinthius> thefoot: export CC="/path/to/gcc"
[02:10] <Kensey> the first thing that comes to mind is, missing hardware or filesystem driver for the boot partition, that's what seems to be the cause of most panics
[02:10] <puff> Hm, I guess I'll try out mplayer-586, I can always remove it and go to mplayer-386.
[02:10] <Oeaa> VFS: iunable to mount root filesystem
[02:11] <Kensey> yep
[02:11] <Oeaa> my lilo.conf has root=/dev/hda2
[02:11] <Oeaa> which is right
[02:11] <Oeaa> don't understand what is going on heh
[02:11] <Kensey> what filesystem and bus type?
[02:11] <Quinthius> Oeaa: no other information that could pertain to the error?
[02:11] <mylastmorning> hi all
[02:11] <Quinthius> Oeaa: like any errors from "mount" or anything?
[02:12] <UnIData> new release (5.10) when ?
[02:12] <tristanmike> UnIData, Oct 13
[02:12] <Oeaa> nope
[02:12] <Kris_k> how to mount a windows system thats on another hd on my computer ?
[02:12] <UnIData> thx
[02:12] <Oeaa> just
[02:12] <mylastmorning> !repositories
[02:12] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[02:12] <Oeaa> Please append a correct "root=" boot option.
[02:12] <Oeaa> VFS: Cannot open root device "/dev/hda2" or unknown-block
[02:12] <IorGie> Kris_k: see ubuntuguide.org
[02:12] <paddygman> LO
[02:12] <paddygman> ANYONE IN HERE
[02:13] <thefoot> hmm so if i need gcc3.4 where can i get it from
[02:13] <crimsun> from pool
[02:13] <propagandhi> Oeaa: have you tried using grub
[02:13] <Kensey> I think that's the same thing I got when I compiled a kernel with IDE modularized and no initrd
[02:13] <crimsun> (it's in the archive)
[02:13] <paddygman> NEED A BUT OF HELP
[02:13] <Oeaa> propagandhi,
[02:13] <Quinthius> Oeaa: that's a little more helpful :)
[02:13] <Hendric> LVM sucks bigtime.. can anyone help me?
[02:13] <Oeaa> grub wouldn't install
[02:13] <Oeaa> :(
[02:13] <Oeaa> when i installed ubuntu
[02:13] <crimsun> paddygman: your caps key is STUCK
[02:13] <Oeaa> had to go with lilo
[02:13] <paddygman> sorry mate
[02:13] <Oeaa> Quinthius,  common pproblem?
[02:13] <Oeaa> I can't for the life of me figure it out
[02:13] <IorGie> Hendric: tell me
[02:13] <Oeaa> heh
[02:13] <paddygman> apologies all rounf
[02:13] <paddygman> got a prob tryin to update
[02:14] <paddygman> appears that some program that i cannot locate will not allow the update system to get a lock
[02:14] <Hendric> IorGie: how can i grub-install on an LVM drive? since /dev/mapper does not correspond to a BIOS device
[02:14] <Quinthius> Oeaa: no clue, but that is just a bit more descriptive... maybe the root= line it's looking for is the one you pass to the kernel, which might be different than lilo's root option...
[02:14] <paddygman> any thoughts
[02:14] <kevogod> paddygman, Close Synaptic.
[02:14] <Oeaa> lilo's root option is correct
[02:14] <paddygman> how
[02:14] <Oeaa> It's as always
[02:14] <Kensey> Oeaa, I'm wondering.  Did you have an initrd before?
[02:14] <thefoot> how woudl i recompile my kernel using gcc4.0?
[02:14] <Oeaa> As its always been
[02:14] <Oeaa> yeah Ken
[02:14] <paddygman> have no programs that i can see open
[02:14] <Oeaa> it booted fine before
[02:14] <glick> does anyone know a good dyndns update client for clients that are nat'd
[02:14] <glick> ?
[02:14] <crimsun> thefoot: don't. Use gcc-3.4.
[02:14] <Oeaa> I think the problem  is not having an initrd tho
[02:14] <melon> Hey , my gnome 2.12.1 not for Add/Remove Programs , Ubuntu Breezy Badger
[02:15] <Quinthius> Oeaa: maybe so, but i'm talking about the root= that is passed on the kernel line...
[02:15] <IorGie> Hendric: doesnt grub install in the MBR and has nothing to do with lvm?
[02:15] <demianmax> thefoot: you should be able to get that gcc version from apt, then you can run 'make CC=/path/to/gcc-3.x.x'
[02:15] <Hendric> IorGie: any ideas?
[02:15] <Oeaa> I -think- it was in the middle of a kernel update, and you know how you have to interact with it?
[02:15] <eythian> glick: I use no-ip.com and there is a no-ip program in ubuntu to update it
[02:15] <Kensey> yeah, your initrd may have gone walkabout
[02:15] <Oeaa> Ope nthe terminal , et cetera
[02:15] <crimsun> paddygman: which program?
[02:15] <demianmax> or just set the environment var
[02:15] <Oeaa> I -think- my box got rebooted
[02:15] <paddygman> doesnt say
[02:15] <Oeaa> in the middle of that
[02:15] <thefoot> demianmax:  how do i use apt to find the correct version?
[02:15] <Oeaa> only thing i could think of
[02:15] <paddygman> damn forgotten all my / for irc
[02:15] <Kensey> see if lilo's idea of the initrd name is the same as the initrd that exists on there now
[02:15] <demianmax> thefoot: which one did you need again? ie. what was the error message?
[02:16] <thefoot> "Please either recompile your kernel with "usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config-tools.pl with CC environment variable point to teh "gcc" version "3.4.5"
[02:16] <Hendric> IorGie: thats d point.. how can i grub-install if grub cannot locate d drive that it can boot... since its an LVM partition
[02:16] <Kensey> if the initrd name changed during the upgrade but lilo never got uipdated, that would be an issue.
[02:16] <kevogod> When I drag and drop a file or folder from Nautilus to the GNOME Terminal, should it not escape spaces in the path?
[02:16] <Oeaa> where is the intrid located?  /lib/modules/kernel name/
[02:16] <Oeaa> ?
[02:16] <Quinthius> Oeaa: look for a kernel line, something like "/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-k7 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash" etc...
[02:16] <Oeaa> ok
[02:16] <Kensey> or if the initrd got updated but the kernel didn't, you could have issues with version mismatching.
[02:16] <erisco> alright i am playing wesnoth... hurrah. it is a pretty cool game.... gets hard really quickly. anyone else know some larger games like that for linux>
[02:16] <Kensey> initrd is usually in /boot
[02:16] <Quinthius> Oeaa: because "root" to a boot loader isn't always the same as the "root" option that you pass to the kernel
[02:17] <propagandhi> thefoot: do 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 - then run vmware config again
[02:17] <auk> eight days...
[02:17] <thefoot> propagandhi:  i'm looking in my usr/bin folder and there is no gcc-3.4
[02:17] <ssam> erisco, freeciv
[02:17] <demianmax> gcc-3.4 is in the regular apt repos
[02:17] <propagandhi> thefoot: ok, in that case
[02:17] <Quinthius> Oeaa: so make sure there is a root= option on the kernel line..
[02:17] <crimsun> kevogod: file a wishlist bug
[02:17] <Hendric> erisco: doom3 ?
[02:17] <propagandhi> thefoot: do apt-get install gcc-3.4
[02:17] <thefoot> thanks
[02:18] <glick> do they have anything for dyndns?
[02:18] <demianmax> thefoot: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[02:18] <Oeaa> Quinthius,
[02:18] <Oeaa> In the lilo.conf?
[02:18] <Oeaa> Sorry, i'm kinda newto linux
[02:18] <Oeaa> hehe
[02:18] <eythian> anyone know if it's possible to get random background image switching in gnome?
[02:18] <Quinthius> Oeaa: i assume so. not too familiar with lilo
[02:18] <TiMiDo> eythian nope
[02:18] <demianmax> eythian: yes it is
[02:18] <Oeaa> the intrid it points to is just intrid.img
[02:18] <kevogod> This is my favorite bug --> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[02:18] <Quinthius> Oeaa: i just know in grub there is a "root" option that refers to the root of the BOOT partition, and is seperate from the "root=" option on the kernel line
[02:18] <TiMiDo> lol (:
[02:18] <eythian> demianmax, how?
[02:18] <demianmax> eythian, i found an old panel applet that did that for me
[02:19] <IorGie> Hendric: and you can not acces it bij using /dev/<volumegroup>/<lvname>/ ?
[02:19] <eythian> ah, OK. do you know the name?
[02:19] <Oeaa> the intrid that lilo.conf points to, is the same
[02:19] <Oeaa> that is on the drive
[02:19] <demianmax> eythian: can't remember the name, but i had to complile it myself, it was annoying, and it crashed it you left clicked on it, but it worked
[02:19] <Kris_k> okay so i mount the hard drive but then i dont have permission to view the contents of it ?????
[02:19] <demianmax> eythian: i'll look again, can't remember off the top of my head
[02:19] <eythian> heh OK, cheers
[02:20] <Quinthius> Oeaa: can you paste your lilo.conf to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ ?
[02:20] <Oeaa> sure
[02:20] <paddygman> anyone any ideas as to a problem with updates  "unable to get an exclusive lock" is the error
[02:20] <Oeaa> anyone know the vi hotkey for select all?
[02:20] <Oeaa> :)
[02:20] <misfit_toy> well, hell, amarok is now broken in the latest update
[02:20] <Quinthius> paddygman: have synaptic running?
[02:20] <paddygman> no
[02:20] <crimsun> misfit_toy: how so?
[02:20] <demianmax> eythian: oh wait, someone just told me about this way to do it: http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=6
[02:20] <imterro> how can i determine my bluetooth device/
[02:21] <demianmax> eythian: haven't tried it but give that a shot
[02:21] <IorGie> paddygman: and trying to run ap-get at the same time?
[02:21] <misfit_toy> crimsun, amaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.
[02:21] <misfit_toy> amaroK: [Loader]  amarokapp probably crashed!
[02:21] <eythian> demianmax, cheers, will have a go
[02:21] <Quinthius> paddygman: or any other apt-related program?
[02:21] <crimsun> misfit_toy: 1.3.1-0ubuntu4 works fine.
[02:21] <Kris_k> okay so i mount the hard drive but then i dont have permission to view the contents of it ?????
[02:21] <thefoot> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[02:21] <bimberi> paddygman: ps x | grep apt   <- to see if there's a hidden apt related process running
[02:22] <misfit_toy> crimsun, I tried removing and readding, no luck, weird, this happened after the latest breezy updates today
[02:22] <Quinthius> thefoot: you need to install linux-headers for your kernel (i.e. linux-headers-k7 if you use linux-image-k7)
[02:22] <imterro> guys how can i find out what type of bluetooth card i have?
[02:22] <puff> Well, that was a pointleses exercise, mplayer wants the file or URL, and the site I was going to watch wants me to play it in my browser.
[02:22] <TiMiDo> imterro lspci
[02:22] <thefoot> Quinthus:  how do i do that and how do i know which linux image?
[02:22] <puff> What's generally recommended for adding mplayer-like stuff to firefox?
[02:23] <Hendric> IorGie: during the "rescue" mode... it asks me to mount on a root partition. after doing so.. it shows me /dev/mapper/domain-root <-- but can't grub-install since it tries to find d BIOS device
[02:23] <mahangu> puff, you mean firefox extensions?
[02:23] <kevogod> I like that Epiphany extensions take effect immediately.
[02:23] <Quinthius> thefoot: do "uname -r", it should end in -k7, -386, -686 etc
[02:23] <eythian> demianmax, OK, that method kinda works, but I think I'll write my own script using it.
[02:23] <puff> mahangu: nah, I mean for installing the right player to play it "in browser".
[02:23] <Quinthius> thefoot: then just install the proper headers package from synaptic..
[02:23] <thefoot> Quin: 2.6.12-8-386
[02:24] <puff> Some googling turns up some old posts that refer to mplayer-plugin, or alterantively mozplugger, w32codecs and totem-xine.
[02:24] <Quinthius> thefoot: or: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-386
[02:24] <IorGie> Hendric: maper is not good you shouls have the name of the volume group you created
[02:24] <cevizoglu> is it possible to make the new OEM Windows XP on Thinkpads coexist with Ubuntu Linux?  Doesn't seem like it, since the first drive needs to be Linux but Windows must be first as well
[02:25] <IorGie> Hendric: A volume group are one ore more HardDisks
[02:25] <crimsun> cevizoglu: yes, it works fine
[02:25] <Oeaa> ok
[02:25] <Oeaa> I have my lilo.conf
[02:25] <Oeaa> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2806
[02:25] <puff> cevizoglu: I'm using ubuntu on a t43p, no problems at all.
[02:25] <crimsun> cevizoglu: the installer resizes NTFS transparently
[02:25] <Loki_VA> hi ppl
[02:25] <kevogod> cevizoglu, The bootloader should take care of that cevizoglu.
[02:25] <TiMiDo> Loki_VA hello
[02:25] <Loki_VA> i have a problem with the hoary ubuntu live disc
[02:25] <TiMiDo> Loki_VA what's wrong?
[02:25] <Loki_VA> it keeps hanging on dhcp.. can i disable this?
[02:26] <Hendric> IorGie: so how will i see my volum groups on terminal??
[02:26] <puff> cevizoglu: That is, no problems at all with dualboot.  I'm having a few minor problems with suspend-to-disk.
[02:26] <Loki_VA> There is no dhcp on this network so i dont need it..
[02:26] <Quinthius> Oeaa: what's with all the knoppix stuff in there?
[02:26] <cevizoglu> I must have messed up.. Windows won't boot... did you select automatic partition?
[02:26] <puff> I wish I'd gotten the atheros wireless instead of the intel. Ah well.
[02:26] <Oeaa> what knoppix stuff?
[02:26] <Anak1n> !fluxbox
[02:26] <TiMiDo> Loki_VA then when it ask you to configured, the dhcp configured it later,
[02:26] <ubotu> it has been said that fluxbox is forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[02:26] <propagandhi> that must be the knoppix cd lilo.conf?
[02:26] <TiMiDo> there's an option for that Loki_VA
[02:27] <Oeaa> hmm
[02:27] <Oeaa> wtf
[02:27] <Oeaa> weird
[02:27] <Oeaa> i just booted knoppix cause i can't get into hoary
[02:27] <Oeaa> lol
[02:27] <Rodi> knoppix is linux with boot via cd-rom, can run linux and dont need install
[02:27] <paddygman> any other suggestions to my prob upgrading
[02:27] <Loki_VA> TiMiDo: whats the kernel option? because I dont get a choice, it just trys dhcp before i get any options..
[02:27] <IorGie> Hendric: use pvscan to see which drives are in wich volumegroup
[02:27] <puff> cevizoglu: Harrumm... no, I'm pretty sure I chose manual.
[02:27] <Oeaa> oh...
[02:27] <sly> uh it was hard but this ubuntu sounds good
[02:27] <Oeaa> Quin
[02:27] <Oeaa> hold on
[02:27] <Oeaa> i gave you the wrong conf i think
[02:27] <puff> cevizoglu: I think that's one of the few bits of the install process that they could smooth out.
[02:27] <Quinthius> Oeaa: then you need to mount your ubuntu drive under like /mnt/ubuntu and then check /mnt/ubuntu/etc/lilo.conf
[02:27] <Oeaa> yeah
[02:27] <IorGie> Hendric: see also http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:27] <Oeaa> i have it mounted
[02:28] <Oeaa> hold on my mistake
[02:28] <Quinthius> hehe
[02:28] <Hendric> IorGie: i've read that
[02:28] <TiMiDo> Loki_VA if you wait like 3 minutes it will give up on it's sel
[02:28] <TiMiDo> f
[02:28] <Hendric> 5x
[02:28] <paddygman> anyone
[02:28] <cevizoglu> puff, hmmm... I shouldn't have used partition magic, I guess
[02:28] <thefoot> after i install linux-header-386 where would the location of those include files be
[02:28] <thefoot> err I mean c header files
[02:28] <crimsun> thefoot: you need linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:28] <Loki_VA> i tryed 'live nodhcp' to no avail
[02:28] <paddygman> anyway to check if apt-get or aptitude are running in the backgrounf
[02:28] <Oeaa> ok
[02:28] <paddygman> -d
[02:28] <Oeaa> here is the hoary lilo.conf
[02:28] <bimberi> paddygman: ps x | grep apt   <- to see if there's a hidden apt related process running
[02:28] <Oeaa> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2807
[02:28] <TiMiDo> paddygman ps x
[02:29] <Loki_VA> it has been sitting here for 10 mins i dont think its gonna give up
[02:29] <IorGie> Hendric: I never installed unbuntu on to of an lvm, i use it to make one big /home from my second en third hard drive
[02:29] <thefoot> crimsun:  can u explain further
[02:29] <Hendric> IorGie: why am i having this problem? i want to GHOST my system to another drive since i got 10 units here with same specs.. since GHOST doesn't copy MBR.. so i need to grub-install on them, as i usually do with non LVM linux system.
[02:29] <Quinthius> thefoot: /usr/src/linux-headers-<version>
[02:29] <propagandhi> paddygman:  you dont have synaptic or any other form of apt running, and you're sure you're executing with sudo
[02:29] <imterro> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2808 <--- can anyone tell me which is my bluetooth? i have no idea
[02:29] <Oeaa> hmm
[02:30] <Oeaa> i guess iw ill just reinstall?
[02:30] <Oeaa> this is a headache :(
[02:30] <crimsun> thefoot: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:30] <imterro> thefoot, are you trying to setup your wireless card?
[02:30] <Quinthius> Oeaa: hmm, is that a fairly default lilo.conf? like was the root= option way up there to begin with?
[02:30] <Oeaa> yeah
[02:31] <tamale> Hi everyone, i just finished the install process, and after the first reboot (where it asks to take out the media) I'm getting a GRUB error (Error 18)  any ideas?
[02:31] <Oeaa> i wonder
[02:31] <Oeaa> can i edit it to boot into an older kernel?
[02:31] <IorGie> Hendric: i have no experience with that.
[02:32] <Oeaa> so ubuntu can't mount root FS
[02:32] <Quinthius> Oeaa: sure, look at the section for /vmlinuz.old
[02:32] <Oeaa> but knoppix mounts it fine
[02:32] <Oeaa> yeah i did
[02:32] <Oeaa> it's not there
[02:32] <Loki_VA> So does anyone know the kernel option for the hoary live disc to disable dhcp?
[02:32] <Oeaa> heh
[02:32] <Oeaa> just intrid.img and vmlinuz
[02:32] <paddygman> anyone any other ideas
[02:32] <Quinthius> Oeaa: i mean, use that as an example, make another section pointing to whatever your old kernel is
[02:32] <Loki_VA> it refuses to quit..
[02:32] <Hendric> i guess am having a "first time for everyone" problem about LVM...
[02:33] <tamale> Hi everyone, i just finished the install process, and after the first reboot (where it asks to take out the media) I'm getting a GRUB error (Error 18)  any ideas?
[02:33] <propagandhi> paddygman: you ARE running with sudo?
[02:33] <Quinthius> Oeaa: you have /dev/hda2 mounted under /mnt/ubuntu or something atm right?
[02:33] <bimberi> paddygman: did ps x.... show anything?
[02:33] <Oeaa> yeah
[02:33] <Oeaa> /mnt/hda2
[02:33] <IorGie> Hendric: maybe there are other options besides lvm?
[02:33] <Quinthius> Oeaa: ok, is there a /mnt/hda2/initrd.img ?
[02:33] <Oeaa> yes
[02:34] <cddesjar> i am running kubuntu...how do i installl gnome?
[02:34] <Hendric> IorGie: a lot indeed.. sadly i made a nearly perfect system for me.. on an LVM system..
[02:34] <propagandhi> cddesjar: you could use synaptic, or sudo apt-get install gnome
[02:34] <Quinthius> Oeaa: is there anything under /boot ?
[02:34] <Quinthius> Oeaa: err /mnt/hda2/boot
[02:34] <tamale> Can anyone help me with this Grub error?
[02:34] <matw> loki, did you try to kill the dhcpd process?
[02:34] <Hendric> IorGie: since i can't install this way again (customized)... i need to ghost... and LVM is killing me
[02:34] <Oeaa> oh yeah
[02:34] <Oeaa> a lot
[02:34] <glick> all OS's suck some just suck more than others
[02:34] <seife> Yo i installed all codecs and .mp3 playing stuff
[02:34] <hyphnated> tamale: from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/fr/grub-error-guide.xml .. "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds max supported by BIOS"
[02:35] <bimberi> cddesjar: installing the ubuntu-desktop package will get  you ubuntu's gnome environment
[02:35] <benplaut> what would be the cli command to minimize all windows/show desktop?
[02:35] <propagandhi> glick: thats a nonsensical statement
[02:35] <seife> Now its playing the song
[02:35] <Quinthius> Oeaa: you using the standard ubuntu kernels or manually compiled/installed?
[02:35] <glick> propagandhi, not really
[02:35] <seife> but i dont hear it.
[02:35] <tamale> that's no good
[02:35] <propagandhi> glick: how so
[02:35] <hyphnated> tamale: that means your BIOS can't seek far enough into the drive to find the file that grub told it to use
[02:35] <Oeaa> standard
[02:35] <tamale> yah
[02:35] <Oeaa> used the update manager for everything
[02:35] <paddygman> gettin error on sudo apt-get
[02:35] <tamale> so why is grub looking so deep into the drive
[02:35] <Oeaa> i think my computer got rebooted in the middle of ak ernel update tho
[02:35] <Oeaa> because they are interactive
[02:35] <Oeaa> and it woulda hanged until i came by
[02:35] <Oeaa> or a family member reset it
[02:35] <glick> all os's suck in some way, you just have to choose in what area you can afford it to suck and in what areas you cant afford it to suck
[02:35] <Quinthius> Oeaa: hmm
[02:36] <Oeaa> in my boot dir there is initrd.img-2.6.10-5-k7 and the same for vmlinuz
[02:36] <thefoot> thank you for the help, got vmtools installed successfully
[02:36] <Oeaa> should i use those to replace the ones in root dir?
[02:36] <hyphnated> tamale: is this a fairly new machine, or a pretty old one?
[02:36] <tamale> supermicro dual PIII server box
[02:36] <Quinthius> Oeaa: nah it looks like /vmlinuz and /initrd.img are already links to the real files in /boot anyway
[02:36] <propagandhi> paddygman: have you rebooted already, that should clear any lock
[02:36] <Oeaa> see, maybve the kernel update changes them
[02:36] <Oeaa> for the new kernel
[02:36] <Oeaa> but since something happened
[02:37] <Oeaa> the new kernel wasn't installed
[02:37] <Quinthius> Oeaa: if the install was interrupted in the middle of copying files, then it's possible not all the proper v ersions of stuff got copied over
[02:37] <matw> I'm having trouble with Eclipse SDK. No help files and other stuff. Where should I go to get help?
[02:37] <codenut> can i upgrade hegehog with breezy pree?
[02:37] <imterro> so where can i get cool wall papers?
[02:37] <Quinthius> Oeaa: like maybe the new vmlinuz got copied over but not initrd.img or something
[02:37] <Oeaa> ok
[02:37] <dooglus> what's the best way to make a "linux boot disk" for emergency booting of ubuntu if grub/lilo gets messed up?
[02:37] <Oeaa> i will try replacing them
[02:37] <Oeaa> and see what happens
[02:37] <propagandhi> codenut: yeah
[02:37] <bimberi> codenut: yes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:37] <Oeaa> hmm they are the same file
[02:37] <Oeaa> what cp tells me
[02:37] <glick> i wish there were a couple cool windows games i could play using wine
[02:37] <robertj> dooglus: use the LiveCD
[02:38] <propagandhi> glick: heard of cedega?
[02:38] <Quinthius> Oeaa: i would try doing a chroot into /dev/hda2 (chroot /dev/hda2 /bin/bash) then try using apt-get to reinstall the kernel
[02:38] <Quinthius> Oeaa: err /mnt/hda2, sorry
[02:38] <glick> propagandhi, yeah, but im poor
[02:38] <imterro> hey where can i get cool wallpapers?
[02:38] <Oeaa> can i use apt-get on knoppix?
[02:38] <tamale> hyphnated:  it's not OLD by any means i wouldn't think..  this is it:  http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/6010/SYS-6010L.cfm
[02:38] <propagandhi> glick: but if you could get it free
[02:38] <Hendric> dooglus; use the CD.. then "rescue" then grub-install... make sure you don't have LVM
[02:38] <propagandhi> ;)
[02:38] <Hobbsee> glick: you can compile it from source and get it free
[02:38] <Quinthius> Oeaa: no clue, but doesn't matter, you'll be running it from within your /mnt/hda2 filesystem... that's what chroot does
[02:38] <hyphnated> tamale: you know your way around BIOS?
[02:38] <demianmax> eythian: the name of that panel app was wallpaper-tray: 'http://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/wallpaper-tray'
[02:38] <tamale> yup
[02:38] <dooglus> robertj, Hendric I don't have the CD - either of them
[02:38] <tamale> hyphnated:  yup
[02:38] <Oeaa> hmm
[02:38] <demianmax> eythian: but it's pretty old
[02:39] <glick> but the free version isnt as good
[02:39] <Oeaa> says operation not permitted
[02:39] <Hobbsee> glick: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[02:39] <glick> its missing stuff
[02:39] <propagandhi> glick:http://www.tuxwarez.com/ but thats just between you and me squashed hat
[02:39] <Oeaa> oh
[02:39] <Oeaa> had to sudo
[02:39] <Quinthius> Oeaa: chroot /mnt/hda2 /bin/bash = makes /mnt/hda2 act like /, and runs /bin/bash from within (i.e. /mnt/hda2/bin/bash)
[02:39] <paddygman> anyone kno anything about setting up counter strike servers on ubuntu
[02:39] <hyphnated> tamale: check if the drive's mode is CHS or LBA
[02:39] <Oeaa> ok
[02:39] <eythian> demianmax, ah, cheers. I was half way through getting a perl script to do it :)
[02:39] <Oeaa> that is done
[02:39] <tamale> ok
[02:39] <Quinthius> Oeaa: make sure you use /mnt/hda2, not /dev/hda2, was a typo on my part :)
[02:39] <imterro> hey is it possible to get applications to go into the aplications menu?
[02:39] <Hobbsee> propagandhi: nice, very nice
[02:39] <Hendric> dooglus: no other way i guess
[02:39] <imterro> so if i insatall something, how do i get it to go into the aplication dropdown menu?
[02:39] <Quinthius> Oeaa: one sec
[02:40] <Oeaa> nod
[02:40] <propagandhi> Hobbsee: yeah, its got some cool stuff
[02:40] <demianmax> ethyian: yeah, i'd forgotten about that link, with the gconf line it's trivial to write a nice perl script
[02:40] <paddygman> Counter Strike anyone
[02:40] <tamale> hyphnated:  LBA mode is 'Supported' and the option is set to [Auto] 
[02:40] <tamale> i can disable LBA
[02:40] <Prower> propagandhi: Just as fair warning, the ops probably aren't going to be happy with links like that in here :>
[02:40] <robertj> dooglus: download or order one?
[02:40] <hyphnated> tamale: naw, change it to force LBA
[02:40] <demianmax> ethyian: that panel app kinda sucked anyway...and please, anything i _can_ do in perl i do in perl
[02:40] <matw> I'm having trouble with Eclipse SDK. No help files and other stuff. Anyone know where I should go to get help?
[02:40] <propagandhi> Prower: ok i am willing to deal with their wrath
[02:40] <tamale> hyphnated:  that's not an option
[02:41] <hyphnated> what are the options?
[02:41] <Prower> propagandhi: Well that's up to you :> Just figured I'd let you know
[02:41] <puff> Anybody got a pointer to a windows media file (or something) that they know works?
[02:41] <dooglus> robertj: there must be some way of making a tiny boot cd
[02:41] <puff> I'm trying to test tnis mplayer install.
[02:41] <propagandhi> Prower: i appreciate that
[02:41] <tamale> hyphnated: for 'LBA Mode',  just auto or diable
[02:41] <dooglus> robertj: I guess I just want "lilo on a cd"
[02:41] <tamale> err disable
[02:41] <demianmax> imterro: deviantart.com
[02:42] <cevizoglu> ok
[02:42] <Quinthius> Oeaa: not too familiar with command-line apt stuff, but look in /boot, what's the full-named vmlinuz in there? (like vmlinuz-2.6.12-18-k7)
[02:42] <Kris_k> how do you install RPM's in ubuntu
[02:42] <Prower> Kris_k: The only way you'd be able to do that is converting with alien, that I know of
[02:42] <Cashel> Kris_k, alien <package>; dpkg -i <package>.deb
[02:43] <Kris_k> so ubuntu is debian ? based
[02:43] <matw> yes
[02:43] <Kris_k> k
[02:43] <Quinthius> Oeaa: (that's the /boot under your chroot environment btw, make sure it's in the same console you chrooted, otherwise it'll be /mnt/hda2/boot)
[02:43] <Cashel> you can alien -i <package> but its giving me probs before...
[02:43] <Prower> Kris_k: Yes :> Uses the same package management, and there's a lot of other ties organizationally
[02:43] <hyphnated> tamale: if that's the only option to play with, then have a play with it :-)
[02:43] <tamale> k
[02:43] <cevizoglu> is it hard to recover ubuntu if you installed windows **after** you installed ubuntu?
[02:43] <hyphnated> tamale: also, does it show your drive detected correctly?
[02:44] <tamale> yes
[02:44] <Cashel> cevizoglu, not realy, you just need to reinstall grub
[02:44] <tamale> i saw both my drives while selecting partioning info, formatting, installing, etc
[02:44] <cevizoglu> Cashel, that's what I thought
[02:44] <bimberi> Kris_k: This page sets out the debian/ubuntu relationship - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[02:45] <Kris_k> Thanks
[02:45] <eythian> demianmax, fair enough. Although I'm going to check out the newer version of that program at http://planetearthworm.com/projects/wp_tray/
[02:45] <bimberi> cevizoglu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows   you be the judge of the difficulty :)
[02:45] <propagandhi> http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?id=1233077121&eid=-50
[02:45] <tamale> playin with it didn't help the error 18
[02:46] <cevizoglu> bimberi, by hard, I meant impossible
[02:47] <Cashel> cevizoglu, have you already reinstalled? easier if you havent yet...
[02:47] <bimberi> cevizoglu: then no :)
[02:47] <benplaut> wokick: somehwere around ~600 in glxgears, it's working :)
[02:47] <benplaut> woops
[02:47] <benplaut> what would be the cli command to minimize all windows/show desktop?
[02:47] <endererror> hello... i have an amilo laptop with hoary... wlan works... but on boot it says: network... fail. i have to activate eth1 again evrytime... any hints?
[02:48] <Quinthius> Oeaa: still there?
[02:48] <bimberi> propagandhi: "Microsoft is 100 percent focused on Windows" - Gee i wonder what happened to the Office for MacOSX? :P
[02:48] <cevizoglu> Cashel, I'm not sure yet if I want to use Windows... I'm leaving 22GB open just in case, and using it to play in the meantime  :)
[02:48] <Cashel> dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/C/grub bs=512 count=1   and add it to windows xp's boot.ini , and you should be good to go..
[02:48] <propagandhi> bimberi: its a good joke isnt it
[02:49] <propagandhi> is it just me or is microsoft getting worried
[02:49] <kevogod> No, they are getting desparate.
[02:49] <Hendric> i miss the nice BLUESCREENS of windowz
[02:49] <thefoot> how's Wine in Ubuntu?
[02:49] <cevizoglu> Hendric, so set your terminal to blue  ;)
[02:49] <Hendric> thefoot: rocks
[02:49] <benplaut> Hendric: BSOD screensaver is awesome XD
[02:49] <propagandhi> tamale: have u pasted your menu.lst file yet
[02:50] <synackuator> so anyone running breezy w/ out a hitch?
[02:50] <thefoot> Hendric:  happen to know how the COM port emulation is?
[02:50] <crimsun> synackuator: I am.
[02:50] <propagandhi> synackuator: me too
[02:50] <synackuator> wow
[02:50] <synackuator> laptops?
[02:50] <propagandhi> yep
[02:50] <crimsun> X40-2527.
[02:50] <propagandhi> HP DV4000
[02:50] <synackuator> ooo
[02:50] <Hendric> thefoot: run the wine config.. it shows the com port mounting from win - linux
[02:51] <eythian> thefoot, install it from the wine homepage, they have apt sources there with the latest version
[02:51] <synackuator> i'm trying to decide if i should go to breezy with fresh install on my notebook
[02:51] <Prower> Can you actually upgrade to the final release of it now, or is that still coming out on the 13th?
[02:51] <crimsun> release is the 13thish.
[02:51] <crimsun> RC is RSN.
[02:51] <synackuator> i'm worried that my ipw2200 / omnibook module switch will stop working
[02:51] <Hendric> lolx @ bluescreen reactions
[02:51] <crimsun> ipw2200 works fine
[02:51] <propagandhi> Prower: you can upgrade now, but the final release will probably have changes between here and then so technically it isnt the final release
[02:52] <propagandhi> i run ipw2200 also
[02:52] <Prower> propagandhi: Ahh :> Well everything's working fine for me now and I can wait 10 days anyway
[02:52] <propagandhi> 10 days?
[02:52] <IorGie> Prower: but it is sable right now, i've been running breezy for over 2 months now
[02:52] <crimsun> if you want to wait, grab the RC iso in a bit
[02:52] <crimsun> it should be out very shortly.
[02:52] <Hendric> there's no suchs thing as
[02:52] <synackuator> when do you think they will ship the media?
[02:52] <Hendric> "final releases"
[02:52] <crimsun> Hendric: of course not with security updates, etc. :)
[02:52] <synackuator> i signed up for 20 cds
[02:53] <cevizoglu> Hendric, going-out-of-business release?
[02:53] <Prower> Hendric: Well, final release being the term for what they put their stamp on as being both stable and new ;>
[02:53] <jenocin> works great on my nx5000
[02:53] <bimberi> synackuator: if past shipit history is anything to go by, don't hold your breath :)
[02:53] <Quinthius> benplaut: yeah, BSOD is great for giving mini-heartattacks when you forget you enabled it...
[02:53] <jenocin> just torrent it
[02:53] <synackuator> bimberi: haha ok
[02:53] <crimsun> well imagine having to ship multiple hundreds of thousands, bimberi.
[02:53] <propagandhi> yeah it takes a while, much better to just download it or get someone you know to do it
[02:54] <Hendric> that's why i quoted it...
[02:54] <synackuator> bah i guess i can just download it
[02:54] <synackuator> even though it's a 1 in 3 chance md5 won't match
[02:54] <bimberi> crimsun: yes that was somewhat negative i suppose - just managing expectations :)
[02:54] <synackuator> frigin adelphia
[02:55] <Hendric> synackuator: it won't if you don't stop and resume the download
[02:55] <benplaut> what would be the cli command to minimize all windows/show desktop?
[02:57] <mahangu> my dog just died :(
[02:57] <synackuator> Hendric: i don't, it's just that my drop to CO is messed up
[02:57] <synackuator> tv fuzzy too
[02:58] <crispynix> benplaut: With KDE, dcop kicker kicker 'toggleShowDesktop()' ... With GNOME? No idea.
[02:58] <gearry> I tried building my own modules, but they are built as .o files
[02:59] <Laforge> cedega is free right?
[02:59] <Laforge> cedega is free right?
[02:59] <gearry> the ubuntu kernel uses .ko files
[02:59] <crimsun> gearry: that's because you compiled against 2.4 kernel headers
[02:59] <gearry> but I didn't
[02:59] <crimsun> Laforge: the binary-only version is absolutely not
[02:59] <crimsun> gearry: you didn't?
[03:00] <baboon> OK fyi everybody i figured out how to set file associations! the right-click->open-with dialog seems to set it per-file but right-click->properties has an open-with tab that makes it clear whats being done and actually works.
[03:00] <gearry> I don't have any 2.4 files on this machine
[03:00] <gearry> it has only ever seen 2.6.10
[03:00] <crimsun> gearry: dpkg -l kernel-headers\*|grep ^ii
[03:00] <Fraeon> What does grep really DO?
[03:00] <Cashel> baboon, didnt we already say that?
[03:01] <Laforge> crimsun so is there a free version?
[03:01] <crimsun> Fraeon: man grep
[03:01] <crimsun> Laforge: a cvs may still exist; I don't know.
[03:01] <baboon> Cashel, perhaps someone did, but i must have missed the part about going to the Properties window
[03:01] <Laforge> ok, so to play windows games like GW i would have to pay for a emulator type of prorgam, crimsun
[03:01] <gearry> no packages found that match that string
[03:02] <baboon> the Open With dialog is still sorely lacking; it needs a checkbox to indicate if it's a one time or permanent setting
[03:02] <Cashel> baboon, it adds whatever you add, right click properties on an mpg to set the default..  <-
[03:02] <baboon> i see that now, thanks
[03:02] <gearry> in my /usr/src I have headers for 2.6.10 and nothing else
[03:02] <Hobbsee> Laforge: CVS version has instructions at http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[03:03] <gearry> and I used the default ubuntu kernel config
[03:05] <n0odl3> i need help
[03:05] <Cashel> gearry, what is it your trying to do? Is there a question I missed?
[03:05] <n0odl3> something is weird with my monitor
[03:05] <n0odl3> hello?
[03:05] <benplaut> n0odl3: be more explanetory
[03:06] <n0odl3> ok
[03:06] <n0odl3> well benplaut my problem is on the message board its called monitor and its started by ecto
[03:06] <gearry> Cashel: I am trying to compile new drivers for my wireless card so that I can use rfmon mode
[03:06] <gearry> for kismet
[03:06] <Laforge> is there a remote connection over LAN program for ubuntu?
[03:07] <gearry> I did this before with 2.4 kernels on Debian
[03:07] <benplaut> n0odl3: then just wait for an answer there
[03:07] <n0odl3> well
[03:07] <gearry> Laforge: what do you want to do remotely?
[03:07] <Kris_k> Hey with Cedega when installing Steam what DIR do i choose for the install dir
[03:07] <n0odl3> here is my major problem
[03:07] <Cashel> Laforge, ssh
[03:07] <n0odl3> for some reason my task bar things are clipped (Some of it is not showing and going of screen
[03:08] <Cashel> gearry, and what errors are you getting when you try to compile?
[03:08] <gloria> can somebody help me figure out why the sound isn't working in totem??
[03:08] <n0odl3> earlier today it worked
[03:08] <n0odl3> everything was running fine after i ran it for a couple of hours
[03:08] <crimsun> gloria: dpkg -l totem-\*|grep ^ii
[03:08] <n0odl3> however when i logged out and logged back it in everything went back to the problematic way
[03:08] <gearry> Cashel: none on the wireless modules
[03:08] <Cashel> gloria, try going to System > preferences > multimedia selector and changing the out put to alsa ...
[03:09] <gearry> the problem is that I get a bunch of .o files that don't load
[03:09] <gloria> Cashel, ii  totem-xine      1.2.0-0ubuntu3
[03:09] <Cashel> crimsun, I'm betting that was for you :P
[03:09] <n0odl3> i noticed that my monitor refresh rate used to be 57mhz
[03:09] <n0odl3> but now its back to 60mhz
[03:09] <Cashel> gearry, no .ko ?
[03:09] <n0odl3> so what should i do?
[03:10] <gearry> eg, the module from ubuntu are .ko
[03:10] <gearry> but when I make modules it generates all .o files
[03:10] <gloria> Cashel, it worked...thanks!
[03:10] <n0odl3> hello?
[03:10] <Cashel> gloria, np :)
[03:10] <n0odl3> Mr. Benplaut
[03:10] <n0odl3> ?
[03:10] <crimsun> gearry: do you have modutils installed?
[03:10] <gearry> hrm, just thought if the mistake I made
[03:10] <gloria> Cashel, should i change the default input source as well??
[03:10] <gearry> crimsun, not sure, will check
[03:11] <Cashel> gearry, .o is object file in C/C++ ... so something compiled... but did it finish all the wya? what was the last thing make said?
[03:11] <benplaut> n0odl3: what does it matter... it's only a difference of 3MHz
[03:11] <maricar> asl
[03:11] <gearry> perhaps that is the problem, I just checked, and it is still running
[03:11] <Cashel> gloria, neither work on my system, but then I have nothing inputting either, heheh... may as well I suppose... alsa is usualy the way to go.. if you ever need oss support alsa can fake it....
[03:11] <n0odl3> i know but for some reason the task bar is still clipping
[03:12] <n0odl3> it worked earlier and i guess the system just autodetected my setting
[03:12] <n0odl3> but now its back to normal
[03:12] <maricar> asl po
[03:12] <gearry> so perhaps I just need to wait for it to finish
[03:12] <benplaut> n0odl3: clipping?
[03:12] <Cashel> yeah... might be a good idea :P
[03:12] <gloria> Cashel, good point...i've got nothin' comin' in for now too
[03:12] <n0odl3> i mean that some of the task bar is cut off
[03:12] <crimsun> Cashel: you mean ALSA will provide it. ALSA doesn't fake it at all.
[03:12] <n0odl3> like the X for the exit window is off screen
[03:12] <n0odl3> the M in PM is also off screen
[03:13] <gearry> Cashel: I deserve the slapping, now I guess I just wait
[03:13] <Cashel> so alsa contains a full oss system? its not emulating those drivers?
[03:13] <Dreamglider> seethru hello again :)
[03:13] <Cashel> gearry, i do worse daily :P
[03:13] <benplaut> n0odl3: i'm not sure... best to just wait for an answer in the forums
[03:13] <crimsun> Cashel: it absolutely does not emulate ALSA.
[03:13] <crimsun> OSS rather
[03:13] <Cashel> soo
[03:14] <n0odl3> ok
[03:14] <Laforge> gearry sorry was AFK, but i want to have ubuntu sever running in other room but being able to remotly connect to if from my room
[03:14] <eythian> in the kernel config it does call it OSS emulation...
[03:14] <Cashel> how does it provide oss then if its not faking it? by faking it I mean providing an interface but realy using alsa...
[03:14] <crimsun> eythian: it's really a misnomer.
[03:14] <crimsun> Cashel: it's not faking it, they are directly mapped to the hardware. There's no interaction at all with alsa-lib.
[03:14] <mahangu> eythian, my dog died last night :(
[03:15] <mahangu> bah, im apt-getting, apt-getting, no end in sight
[03:15] <Ryan_T> if i install Ubuntu >>>"without"<<< erasing my hard drive, does it automaticaly creat a partition?
[03:15] <Cashel> directly mapped?
[03:15] <mahangu> Ryan_T, you have to manually create partitions
[03:15] <Cashel> then why do people ever need oss at all?
[03:15] <mahangu> it lets you during the install
[03:15] <crimsun> Cashel: snd-pcm-oss or OSS?
[03:15] <Cashel> OSS
[03:15] <Kris_k> i tell you when i go to install FFXI on Cedega thats gona be interesting lol
[03:15] <crimsun> OSS was the long-standing API
[03:16] <Ryan_T> ok, but i can still keep all my data right?
[03:16] <Cashel> right..
[03:16] <Cashel> ohhh I think I see what your getting at
[03:16] <Dreamglider> is it easy to edit this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29555 to install Ubuntu 5.10 instead of 5.04 ?
[03:16] <Cashel> the oss devices are still there even if your not using oss...
[03:16] <Hobbsee> Ryan_T: if you resize your current partition instead of deleting it, yes
[03:16] <crimsun> Cashel: if support for it is compiled, yes.
[03:17] <Ryan_T> i dont have a partition set up
[03:17] <Hobbsee> Ryan_T: what are you running now?  windows?
[03:17] <Ryan_T> Mac OSX 10.4.2
[03:18] <nalioth> Ryan_T: you can resize your partition with parted, join ##apple for help
[03:19] <eythian> mahangu, oh, that's a pity.
[03:21] <txberiu> any idea how I can talk an Alps touchpad into enabling tap-and-drag?
[03:22] <darklogic> hmm, i dont have a xorg.conf. is there a way to copy one from the current settings? the only way i got X running was by deleting the xorg.conf that had been generate
[03:22] <darklogic> d
[03:23] <Laforge> so is ssh a remote connect program
[03:24] <kbrooks> Dreamglider: yes
[03:24] <kbrooks> Dreamglider: let me click over ...
[03:24] <txberiu> Laforge: yes
[03:25] <gloria> what's the easiest way to alter someone's username in ubuntu???  say, i want to switch the /home/gloria to /home/zinger05....and have those files change ownership??
[03:26] <zeus1_> is there any hope for wireless working on ubuntu?
[03:27] <kbrooks> Dreamglider: uh i dunno
[03:27] <Kris_k> I have 2 Sound cards, The onboard sound works but how do i switch between them
[03:27] <cevizoglu> zeus1_, depends on the wireless card
[03:27] <crispynix> gloria: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/361849
[03:28] <informant> gloria: `sudo mv /home/gloria /home/zinger05; chown -R zinger05:zinger05 /home/zinger05/`
[03:29] <informant> gloria: and then create the zinger05 user (without re-adding home dir)
[03:29] <txberiu> umm no
[03:29] <gloria> thanks for the help, i think i'm going to try the usermod command
[03:30] <zeus1_> cevizoglu - D-Link AirPremier DWL-AG530 Wireless PCI Adapter is my wireless card
[03:30] <txberiu> gloria: an user is really just a numeric id.. the name is associated with it in /etc/passwd and /etc/group
[03:30] <txberiu> gloria: in theory you could change gloria into whatever in there
[03:30] <txberiu> gloria: then just rename your home dir
[03:31] <n0odl3> hello
[03:32] <informant> gloria: yeah, I think that might be safer (usermod).. ;-)
[03:32] <n0odl3> uhh
[03:32] <n0odl3> i fixed my monitor problem but i theres another problem thats bothering mer
[03:33] <Dreamglider> kbrooks ok well the same thing must be posible with 5.10 :)
[03:33] <Oeaa> hi
[03:33] <Oeaa> how do i install grub on the MBR
[03:33] <Oeaa> when lilo is already?
[03:33] <txberiu> hmm setxkbmap doesn't seem to work right in Breezy
[03:33] <txberiu> or the keymaps have been changed
[03:33] <n0odl3> well all i had to do was to change the MHZ of my monitor
[03:34] <n0odl3> and it worked
[03:34] <n0odl3> however how can i keep it this way
[03:34] <txberiu> n0odl3: where did you make the change?
[03:34] <n0odl3> it was one of the regular users (not root)
[03:35] <[LONEWOLF] > d
[03:35] <txberiu> n0odl3: make your changes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:35] <n0odl3> how do i do that?
[03:35] <[LONEWOLF] > can u tell me how ubuntu works??
[03:35] <txberiu> n0odl3: you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:35] <n0odl3> is that safe?
[03:35] <n0odl3> how would i do that?
[03:36] <n0odl3> im using gnome
[03:36] <txberiu> n0odl3: what are you trying to do anyway?
[03:36] <WhyvasLT> how do i bind a key to a certain command?
[03:36] <txberiu> WhyvasLT: system - preferences - keyboard shortcuts
[03:36] <Kris_k> I have 2 Sound cards, The onboard sound works but how do i switch between them so like i could run music out of onboard and games through soundcard ????
[03:36] <n0odl3> well im trying to keep my MHZ constant so that my monitor wont cut anything out
[03:37] <txberiu> Kris_k: many apps and sound servers accept options as to what sound device to use
[03:37] <WhyvasLT> txberiu, thanks, i should of found that....
[03:37] <Kris_k> what about Steam
[03:37] <crimsun> Kris_k: it's a bit hokey in Hoary; you currently have to unload and reload them in the order you want to use them
[03:37] <Kris_k> :-/
[03:38] <n0odl3> because everytime i start up my computer the MHZ keeps going back to 60MHZ
[03:38] <n0odl3> then my monitor wacks out
[03:38] <n0odl3> so how do i fix this?
[03:38] <txberiu> n0odl3: so did you change your Horiz and Vert options or what?
[03:38] <DonL> n0odl3, what does "wack out" mean?
[03:39] <WhyvasLT> txberiu, i can't figure out how to create a new one?
[03:39] <WhyvasLT> can you?
[03:39] <n0odl3> well what i mean is that sometimes my task bar is off screen or the M on PM is cut in half
[03:40] <DonL> Can you not make those changes on the monitor itself?
[03:40] <txberiu> WhyvasLT: uhm.. guess not
[03:40] <n0odl3> so what i did to fix it is to go into system----> prefrences----> resolutin
[03:40] <n0odl3> and then i set the MHZ to 75 and everything went to normal
[03:40] <n0odl3> but as soon as i log out it cuts things out again
[03:41] <Kris_k> crimsum so how do i do that sound thing ?
[03:41] <n0odl3> how do i keep the MHZ the same?
[03:41] <imterro> where can i get w32codecs?
[03:41] <benplaut> !w32codecs
[03:41] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[03:42] <imterro> thnks
[03:42] <n0odl3> Mr DonL?
[03:42] <n0odl3> how would i keep the refresh rate the same
[03:43] <DonL> Just checking...
[03:44] <DonL> n0odl3, go to "System", then "Screen Resolution"
[03:44] <n0odl3> ok
[03:44] <n0odl3> ok im there now
[03:44] <n0odl3> and i set my refresh rate and my desired resolution
[03:44] <WhyvasLT> how do i bind a key to a certain command?
[03:44] <n0odl3> now how do i keep it that way?
[03:45] <DonL> Sorry. system, preferences, screen resolution.
[03:45] <n0odl3> alright
[03:45] <DonL> Should save it for you
[03:45] <n0odl3> hmm
[03:45] <n0odl3> i did
[03:45] <n0odl3> but for some reason its not saving
[03:45] <n0odl3> im not on root
[03:45] <hejux> :P ubuntu is very fresh i love it
[03:45] <DonL> I set mine up that way to 75 and it stays quite nicely after reboots
[03:46] <cevizoglu> is there a way to make terminal **not** show the menubar by default when it is run?
[03:46] <n0odl3> i set mines to 75 to
[03:46] <n0odl3> but for some reason it doesnt work
[03:46] <n0odl3> when i reboot
[03:46] <n0odl3> as i said im not in "root"
[03:46] <n0odl3> is that why its not saving?
[03:47] <budreefer> halllooo ubuntuans
[03:47] <budreefer> i = n00b need sum help
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> n0odl3, mine is 85
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> budreefer, ask and ye shall receive
[03:47] <n0odl3> thats great wicked puppy but why isnt the refresh rate staying the same after i reboot?
[03:47] <n0odl3> it goes back to 60
[03:47] <n0odl3> a refresh rate that does not work
[03:48] <DonL> n0odl3, this is a bit of a long process, and you might make mistakes if you don't know your system well, but you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> no idea
[03:48] <n0odl3> i dont know my system well
[03:49] <n0odl3> but what would i do in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> you will reconfigure your x server
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> :P
[03:49] <DonL> n0odl3, that will lead you throught the whole setup for xorg.
[03:49] <DonL> through, even
[03:50] <budreefer> ok here is my deal: just got my ubuntu discs in the mail (YEAH!!! awesome stuff) and i popped it into my dual boot windows/mandriva system. managed to get the new partitions all setup an stuff hda8 and hda9 for / and /home respectively but it crapped out on the install...i wont put grub or lilo into the mbr cause it'll muck up windows so i have a /boot partition as /hda3 that is where lilo is and mandriva loads from there. now i want to mod lilo 
[03:50] <hejux> hi all ,maybe its not right question here ,but anyone could tell me .,which OS can be the best to build a server such as http ftp mail etc ?
[03:50] <cevizoglu> hejux, ubuntu
[03:50] <hejux> :O
[03:50] <eythian> hejux, or Debian. Debian is good too.
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> hejux, debian or freebsd
[03:51] <n0odl3> i see well ill try stuff first
[03:51] <anivair> agreed, though for servers like that it doesn't raelly mattter that much (as long as you're not using CentOS)
[03:51] <hejux> at room #gentoo ,they say gentoo ,here you say ubuntu
[03:51] <anivair> indeed
[03:51] <Oea> hi
[03:51] <anivair> really, whatever you're most familiar with.  Almost any distro can handle that
[03:51] <TimmyJ> hey all, where can I download the latest breezy ISO build...I got word that there was an RC coming out very soon
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> hejux, you want to compile things everytime it is updated ?
[03:51] <anivair> but I'd definately recommend linux for it
[03:51] <Oea> how do i burn a cd to reload my system if my only means of getting on it
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> pls go ahead
[03:51] <Oea> is a live cd?
[03:51] <cevizoglu> TimmyJ, in eight days
[03:51] <zeus1_> i was trying the mepis distro which was supposably supposed to be really good for detecting wireless connections right out of the box and it didnt detect
[03:52] <eythian> Depends on a lot of things. e.g. my server is Debian stable, because I don't want to have to keep an eye on it all the time
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> zeus1_, ubuntu live cd does
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> and install does too
[03:52] <anivair> oea: what?  Are you trying to create a recover disk for a live cd system?
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> i tested it on ibm
[03:52] <DonL> budreefer, if you're asking opinions, I'll give mine. Get another computer and do a clean install, and make it your Ubuntu machine. I dual-booted for a while, and for me it was a pain
[03:52] <zeus1_> no it doesnt...it wont detect mine
[03:52] <Oea> well anivair
[03:52] <Oea> my ubuntu installation is broken
[03:52] <Oea> can't figure out any way to fix it
[03:52] <anivair> ok
[03:52] <Oea> been trying a long time now
[03:52] <Oea> only way to get up is a live cd
[03:52] <anivair> I see
[03:52] <Oea> but....
[03:53] <Oea> i can't burn a cd on a live cd
[03:53] <WhyvasLT> how do i bind a key to a certain command?
[03:53] <budreefer> DonL no can do this is my learning box. gunna have to do mega dual installations forever so if i don't learn now it's pointless....
[03:53] <TimmyJ> cevizoglu, that is the official release...I unfortunately don't have that long, I thought there was a release candidate coming out like in the next 24 hours :-P
[03:53] <Oea> heh
[03:53] <zeus1_> wickedpuppy u mean out of the box or after a lot of configuration
[03:53] <Oea> to boot and reinstall
[03:53] <Oea> so i am screwed?
[03:53] <anivair> Do you want to burn a CD as a backup of the broken system?
[03:53] <budreefer> sofar i can get 3 flavors of linux and 2 windows and a dos all on one box but this ubuntu is the first to bug me
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> zeus1_, out of the box
[03:53] <anivair> correct?
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> zeus1_, get the live cd and try it
[03:53] <zeus1_> I have ubuntu installed
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> ...
[03:53] <x3ndou> Hey
[03:53] <zeus1_> its not detecting
[03:53] <x3ndou> How come
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> whats ya laptop ?
[03:53] <x3ndou> My lock screen button on my system menu doesn't work
[03:54] <zeus1_> its a desktop
[03:54] <x3ndou> it just doesn't do anything
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> desktop ?
[03:54] <DonL> budreefer, good on you mate. It's a learning experience and you'll benefit from it. Sorry I can't help though.
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> lan or wireless ?
[03:54] <zeus1_> wireless
[03:54] <anivair> if so, here's what I did: get yourself a gmail account, compress everyhting you need ot keep, mail it to yourself, and reinstall.
[03:54] <budreefer> i need someone who is an expert lilo configurator!!! anybody?
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> you got lan as well ?
[03:54] <zeus1_> ya
[03:54] <anivair> (or gftp to another system and then send it all back)
[03:54] <zeus1_> the router is downstairs
[03:54] <zeus1_> and it would be hard to wire it everywhere
[03:54] <WhyvasLT> how do i bind a key to a certain command?
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> zeus1_, try ifconfig ... you see eth0 and eth1 both ?
[03:55] <zeus1_> im not in ubuntu atm....
[03:55] <anivair> but I think you're right.  Short of creating a partition for your old stuff and then leaving that particion alone when you reinstall you're probably out of luck.  What's Beroken about your system?
[03:55] <_jason> WhyvasLT:  try system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[03:55] <wickedpuppy> WhyvasLT, system --> preference --> keyboard shortcuts
[03:55] <wickedpuppy> zeus1_, lol
[03:55] <wickedpuppy> ok ok
[03:56] <WhyvasLT> you can't launch a specific app from there
[03:56] <WhyvasLT> only predefined ones
[03:56] <anivair> hmm . . . no oea anymore.  odd.
[03:56] <x3ndou> Uh
[03:56] <x3ndou> Lock screen
[03:57] <x3ndou> doesn't work at all
[03:57] <x3ndou> I assigned a shortcut key
[03:57] <x3ndou> and it still won't work
[03:57] <x3ndou> the only way I can lock screen is go into screensaver properties and go file and lock screen
[03:57] <WhyvasLT> i just close my lid
[03:57] <x3ndou> :P
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> lol
[03:57] <x3ndou> for some reason
[03:57] <x3ndou> that doesnt lock on my laptop
[03:57] <x3ndou> It did in XP
[03:57] <WhyvasLT> no swearing
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> x3ndou, some config files are not read till you restart x or com
[03:58] <x3ndou> oh haha wait
[03:58] <x3ndou> yeah closing the lid works
[03:58] <x3ndou> but the screensaver doesn't work
[03:58] <x3ndou> if I just close the lid
[03:58] <x3ndou> guess I'll restart x then
[03:58] <WhyvasLT> why would you want a screensaver with a closed lid?
[03:58] <WhyvasLT> a show for your keyboard?
[03:58] <x3ndou> so that when I open the lid the screensaver shows
[03:58] <WhyvasLT> oh god
[03:58] <x3ndou> and I have it set to glmatrix which is awesome looking
[03:58] <WhyvasLT> buy a mac
[03:59] <x3ndou> :P
[03:59] <WhyvasLT> prissy
[03:59] <x3ndou> .. you buy a mac
[03:59] <thompa> mac sucks
[03:59] <x3ndou> haha
[03:59] <encryptz> mac rox
[03:59] <x3ndou> If I bought a mac I'd put ubuntu on it anyway
[03:59] <thompa> i hate mac so much im going to fluxbox
[03:59] <encryptz> thompa: why do you hate mac so much?
[04:00] <DonL> Is the new OSX so bad it has people installing Linux on it?
[04:00] <encryptz> i love os x
[04:00] <DonL> encryptz, that's what I was thinking
[04:00] <WhyvasLT> macs = overpriced eye candy for sissies.
[04:00] <DonL> Huh?
[04:00] <WhyvasLT> macs = overpriced eye candy for sissies.
[04:00] <encryptz> overpriced?  sissies?
[04:00] <WhyvasLT> yes
[04:00] <DonL> What is a sissie?
[04:00] <WhyvasLT> overpriced
[04:00] <WhyvasLT> a sissie is a mac user
[04:01] <anivair> heh.  I almost got a mac with OSX thinking, "this is great!  i can run all my favorite linux applications on it . . . hey, wait a minute!"
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> sissie is a gay ... if you ask me
[04:01] <encryptz> $129 = mac, $300 plus licesing = windows
[04:01] <WhyvasLT> GO TORONTO!
[04:01] <DonL> So you think that is bad I take it
[04:01] <WhyvasLT> encryptz, ??? what are you talking about?
[04:01] <WhyvasLT> the OS?
[04:02] <anivair> weird issue: anyone ever have their display just go haywire (graphical "garbage overtakes the screen"?  logging out and back in (or maybe restarting X, i never tried that) fixes it, but it's odd.  maybe my graphics card?
[04:02] <WhyvasLT> who said anything about windows?
[04:02] <thompa> encryptz: dont hate hit really, dont know it.
[04:02] <encryptz> you said overpriced, i'm just trying to figure out where your going.
[04:02] <WhyvasLT> the machine
[04:02] <encryptz> my ibook was $1300
[04:02] <WhyvasLT> my notebook was 899 canadian
[04:02] <thompa> i cant find my files in mac.
[04:02] <Xenguy> .oO(Linux is free as in freedom; what else is there to say? :-)
[04:03] <encryptz> linux rox too
[04:03] <guidan> hi how do u install java?
[04:03] <thompa> also its too glowy
[04:03] <WhyvasLT> 1.6ghz 512mb ram 40gig hd
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> !java
[04:03] <ubotu> java is, like, to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[04:03] <WhyvasLT> 15 inch screen
[04:03] <Xenguy> !tell guidan about java
[04:03] <neighborlee> wickedpuppy, that kind of negativity is not allowed in #ubuntu, so please refrain from further use of such conversation ( and btw not accurate ).
[04:03] <hejux> what can ibook do ? just for fun ?
[04:03] <grndslm> hey guys....i was on here a lil' while ago, and i asked for advice on switching users like moving /home/gloria to /home/shazzam....
[04:03] <encryptz> i love swishy windows etc on mac.
[04:03] <WhyvasLT> hejux, nothing, it's overpriced eyecandy for sissies.
[04:03] <DonL> I figure that  the choice I have is : Some folks sell stuff, and some folks give stuff away. I'll make my choices.
[04:03] <grndslm> and now i'm locked out, i can't login at all....can anybody help?
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> ?
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> neighborlee, what did i say ?
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:04] <encryptz> an ibook can do anything any other laptop can do.
[04:04] <encryptz> more secure than linux, too
[04:04] <anivair> grndslm: what did you do?
[04:04] <informant> WhyvasLT: how do you figure Macs are for sissies? I run OS X on my Powerbook and manage about 20 Linux/Unix servers, get my web programming done, and test Mono (http://www.mono-project.com) builds on it.  I also can run commercial apps such as Illustrator, so it nearly fits the best of both worlds.  I don't exactly see what's so "sissy" about it..
[04:04] <_jason> encryptz:  well the question is can any other laptop do what an ibook can do?
[04:04] <grndslm> anivair, used the usermod command
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> neighborlee, you are not mistaking me for someone else ... are you ?
[04:04] <x3ndou> .... ookay
[04:04] <encryptz> _jason: sure
[04:04] <x3ndou> somehow I ended up with 2 different screensaver apps
[04:05] <x3ndou> Xscreensaver
[04:05] <_jason> encryptz:  so why pay more for the ibook?
[04:05] <x3ndou> and the other one doesn't have a name
[04:05] <grndslm> i guess i did't grant the new user sudoer access or something???
[04:05] <hejux> nowerdays Intel X86 is the most famous platform,all of the OS are running on it.
[04:05] <thompa> there are some good nvidia laptops
[04:05] <WhyvasLT> informant, just look at mac users in general.
[04:05] <x3ndou> the xscreensaver daemon isn't running
[04:05] <anivair> grndslm: can you post the exact command?
[04:05] <WhyvasLT> point and match.
[04:05] <encryptz> i love the os.  unix under the hood.  sleek design.
[04:05] <x3ndou> how do I set it to use xscreensaver
[04:05] <informant> WhyvasLT: I'm not a Mac user in general. :-)
[04:05] <thompa> sony fs-660w works nice in linux
[04:05] <informant> encryptz: exactly.
[04:05] <thompa> better than a mac anyway
[04:05] <hejux> that is we do not need SUN
[04:06] <hejux> and Unix is going to die
[04:06] <WhyvasLT> so someone tell me how to bind a specific app to a key in gnome
[04:06] <SlicerDicer> does anybody here have experience with growisofs crapping out on AMD64?
[04:06] <anivair> or a really close approximation, I guess
[04:06] <DonL> Unix will morph
[04:06] <encryptz> unix won't die
[04:06] <thompa> hejux: negative
[04:06] <informant> unix as an operating system concept is far too powerful to die; it will simply adapt (Linux, et al.)
[04:06] <thompa> hey
[04:06] <guidan> hi , why when i use apt-get update it always giving me problem?
[04:06] <encryptz> mac going to intel was a good move
[04:06] <Hobbsee> guidan: what problem does it give you?
[04:07] <guidan> it tell me to use apt-get update
[04:07] <guidan> let me see
[04:07] <thompa> what command tells me running processes in bash?
[04:07] <Hobbsee> post it on #flood
[04:07] <DonL> guidan, run it twice
[04:07] <Hobbsee> the error message that you get
[04:07] <Xenguy> thompa: ps
[04:07] <encryptz> thompa: ps
[04:07] <anivair> hello/
[04:07] <thompa> ok
[04:07] <guidan> can i paste in here?
[04:07] <guidan> i ran it 4 time
[04:07] <Hobbsee> no, paste in #flood
[04:07] <guidan> same problem
[04:07] <grndslm> anivair, i'm guessing it was: sudo usermod -d /home/shazzam -l shazzam -m
[04:07] <SlicerDicer> does anybody here have experience with growisofs crapping out on AMD64?
[04:07] <grndslm> anivair....or somethin' like that
[04:07] <thompa> got massive updates on this notebook
[04:08] <x3ndou> whoa
[04:08] <x3ndou> first time that ever happened
[04:08] <x3ndou> Ubuntu hangup
[04:08] <x3ndou> anyway
[04:08] <anivair> and are you this user?
[04:08] <Xenguy> thompa: 'top' may also be useful
[04:08] <anivair> shazzam?
[04:08] <x3ndou> how do i set X to use xscreensaver instead of the screensaver prog built into ubuntu
[04:08] <grndslm> anivair, umm....huh??  I had to run next door so that i could get on x-chat
[04:08] <lore_> hi i'm new to ubuntu linux and have a problem with now sound with creative soundblaster live. anyone have any suggestions?
[04:09] <Hobbsee> !backports
[04:09] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[04:09] <anivair> the shazzam user, is that the one you can'ty log in as?
[04:09] <thompa> thanks: is there an option with "ps"?
[04:09] <grndslm> i can't log into ANY Of them
[04:09] <DonL> grndslm, hate when that happens. For me it's live disk to the rescue
[04:09] <Hobbsee> !tell guidan about backports
[04:09] <encryptz> thompa: what are you trying to show?
[04:09] <Xenguy> thompa: e.g. -> ps -aux |grep processname
[04:09] <thompa> if nvidia is running
[04:09] <x3ndou> Hay guyz
[04:09] <x3ndou> !!!
[04:09] <ubotu> somebody said ! was what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[04:09] <x3ndou> :P
[04:09] <anivair> so you ran one usermod and now you can't log in as any of your (how many) users?  Have you tried them all? (just to clarrify)
[04:09] <grndslm> DonL, any commands you'd recommend me to get back up and running?
[04:09] <x3ndou> I need to set xscreensaver daemon to run instead of the one built into ub untu
[04:10] <jbalint> How do I enabled the ftp server? Do I have to install inetd or xinetd? Doesn't seem to be by default installed.
[04:10] <encryptz> ps -aus | grep nvidia, as Xenguy mentioned
[04:10] <thompa> thanks all!
[04:10] <anivair> he's right.  try a live disk and just put it back where it was (reverse the command) and see is that fixes it
[04:10] <encryptz> aux is what i meant to type
[04:10] <benplaut> how would i convert a ogg to a wav?
[04:10] <grndslm> anivair, so I should just try and mess with the usermod command some more??
[04:11] <Hobbsee> !java
[04:11] <ubotu> methinks java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[04:11] <x3ndou> :( nobdy knows?
[04:11] <Dreamglider> WEEEHA
[04:11] <anivair> that's one option.  you didn't actually move the contents of any directories, correct?
[04:11] <DonL> grndslm, sorry, don't know enough about your prob
[04:11] <bimberi> x3ndou: my (fairly unmodified) hoary install as xscreensaver by default
[04:11] <Dreamglider> i just installed ubuntu from internet and it works :)
[04:11] <encryptz> x3ndou: xscreensaver is the default
[04:11] <grndslm> anivair, i moved the contents from /home/gloria to /home/shazzam
[04:11] <bimberi> benplaut: audacity might be able to do that
[04:11] <Bazkaz> !mountntfs
[04:11] <ubotu> Bazkaz: Not a clue
[04:11] <benplaut> k
[04:11] <Dreamglider> took a while tho about 40mintes
[04:11] <x3ndou> tI dunno how either of these progs got here, but these otherone set itself as the default
[04:12] <Bazkaz> !ntfs
[04:12] <x3ndou> And I don't like it because I can't set the properties of the screensavers
[04:12] <zpierreski> to mount ntfs, check out the guide at www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:12] <benplaut> it's really stupid that the gnome sounds have to be in wav... seriously...
[04:12] <Bazkaz> !mount
[04:12] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[04:12] <anivair> actually . . . get on via live CD and first, just try copying the new contents of shazzan back to gloria (don't depete them in either directory) and see if you can log in then.  it may just be that it's not recognizing the data, does that make any sense?
[04:12] <x3ndou> the command it runs is gnome-screensaver-preferences
[04:12] <x3ndou> the one  I dont want
[04:12] <zpierreski> Bazkaz, check out www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:13] <zpierreski> they explain everything
[04:13] <grndslm> not really, but i'll take your word for it...
[04:13] <Bazkaz> thanks
[04:13] <WillySilly> ububtu: "i see naked people"
[04:13] <hejux> grndslm:? solved?
[04:13] <anivair> sorry.  just sync up the two directoroes and see if that helps.  If it does, then just move the contents once you can log in as the new user properly.rather than using usermod
[04:13] <zpierreski> Hey everyone, I just used apt-get to get sun-j2re and azureus, but azureus is not working--it freezes on the initial splash screen
[04:13] <grndslm> hejux, i'm guessing....
[04:13] <troy14> hello room
[04:13] <dos000> how does one switch between window managers
[04:13] <zpierreski> anyone else had this problem?
[04:14] <SlicerDicer-> I am trying to figure out if anybody has any experience with AMD64 and growisofs crapping out when burning dvds I can maybe get 1 burn then I have to reboot my computer if I am lucky If I am really lucky it wont waste the DVD+r any ideas
[04:14] <grndslm> just puttin' in the livecd and messin' around 'til something lets me login
[04:14] <encryptz> dos000: do you have them installed?
[04:14] <troy14> i just installed breezy, and I need to make apache recognize .php files...help?
[04:14] <fmasi> how do i make apach whork whoth php ?
[04:14] <dos000> encryptz, yes i just did fluxbox
[04:14] <lore_> don't want to be a pain but anyone know about linux and creative soundblaster live card and how to get it to work in linux?
[04:14] <troy14> fmasi, looks like we have the same issue
[04:14] <anivair> window managers . . . I wonder if ubuntu has a version of switchdesk
[04:14] <dos000> encryptz, i am on hoary
[04:14] <grndslm> thanks for the help anivair et al., i must be unplugged now.
[04:15] <encryptz> just choose your window manager at the login screen then.
[04:15] <anivair> huh . . . i hope that helped him
[04:15] <DonL> lore, that's the one that worked for me automagically
[04:15] <Dreamglider> good night folks
[04:15] <anivair> lore_: what he said.  maybe a general reconfigure to see if you can get it running?
[04:15] <fmasi> troy14 i did what they say in the gide but its not opening php files snifff
[04:15] <anivair> whatever version of dpkg_reconfigure works for you
[04:15] <dos000> encryptz, i will log out and be back then ... no way of doing it while the apps are running ?
[04:15] <troy14> oh...
[04:15] <SlicerDicer-> I am trying to figure out if anybody has any experience with AMD64 and growisofs crapping out when burning dvds I can maybe get 1 burn then I have to reboot my computer if I am lucky If I am really lucky it wont waste the DVD+r anybody ever have these issues?
[04:16] <lore_> problem is i am a newbie to linux and have no experience with coding if that's what needs to be done
[04:16] <DonL> lore, what's not happening?
[04:16] <encryptz> if you have xnest installed, you can put a new session on a new display
[04:16] <troy14> i tried to get webmin installed so that I could do it that way, but it is not taking my u:p
[04:16] <lore_> DonL - I have no sound at all.
[04:16] <fmasi> i did try phpBB
[04:16] <anivair> no coding nessisary.  you just run a command and it will start a text based wizard for you that is pretty self-explanitory.
[04:16] <DonL> LoRe, do you have a speaker icon?
[04:16] <fmasi> but apach whants me to download files
[04:16] <lore_> System recognizes Dell Sound Blaster live as audito device. and yes I have a speaker icon
[04:16] <troy14> i am trying to install mp3act, so that my folks can have a mp3 server that will run to FM.
[04:17] <fmasi> nice
[04:17] <DonL> Double click on it
[04:17] <troy14> That way, it works on any stereo or walkman...
[04:17] <anivair> lore_ also, check all your volume options. I know if FC3 you had to alter like three volume controls to make sound work
[04:17] <dos000> lore_try to max the volume
[04:17] <encryptz> check out http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7298 for more info
[04:17] <troy14> but first i have to get php working.
[04:17] <lore_> To Don L. I have done that. now what
[04:17] <troy14> i have one built already, but I used suse 9.3 to do oit.
[04:18] <fmasi> So enny one know whot to make php whork ????
[04:18] <DonL> Make sure your volumes are up on speaker, cd, etc
[04:18] <kerlnel20> hi
[04:18] <troy14> does anyone here know how to get apache to work with php files???
[04:18] <kerlnel20> i am kinda new in ubuntu
[04:18] <encryptz> dos000: i haven't used xnest for a while, but it is cool
[04:18] <anivair> Lore_: right click the volume control and select preferances.  What does it say you're using for a mixer?
[04:18] <lore_> DonL. They are.
[04:18] <kerlnel20> what is the default loader of ubuntu is it grub or lilo?
[04:18] <troy14> kerlnel20: good choice!
[04:18] <linner> greetings strangeones :)
[04:18] <fmasi> I second troy14
[04:18] <DonL> kerlnel20, grub
[04:19] <kerlnel20> i am used on redhat products and fedora
[04:19] <lore_> It is the ALSA mixer.
[04:19] <anivair> lore_ try switching it to OSS
[04:19] <troy14> cant wait for this week to pass so badger goes final... when do I get my cd's???
[04:19] <kerlnel20> would it be easier for me to migrate to ubuntu?
[04:19] <DonL> kerlnel20, I was too. For years
[04:19] <troy14> kerlnel20: I used that and suse... i like this better as a desktop... unstoppable.
[04:19] <anivair> (or any other options there)
[04:19] <kerlnel20> what makes ubuntu an edge with RH and FCs?
[04:19] <DonL> kerlnel20, you'll have to learn Deb, but you will love it
[04:20] <linner> nalioth: hey there ;)
[04:20] <lore_> Switched to OSS and still have no sound
[04:20] <anivair> hmm . . .
[04:20] <kerlnel20> so ubuntu is only good for desktop?
[04:20] <zpierreski> I've used it as a server
[04:20] <zpierreski> it works great
[04:20] <nalioth> kerlnel20: ubuntu is good for whatever you want to use it for
[04:20] <kerlnel20> how about server services?
[04:20] <troy14> kerlnel20: it is more user friendly, IMHO, but alot of the crap you have to go thru on a fedora install is already done for you...
[04:20] <zpierreski> I used squidguard and clamav
[04:20] <kerlnel20> web, email ftp samba and son
[04:20] <kerlnel20> web, email ftp samba and so onn
[04:20] <bimberi> fine as a server for me
[04:20] <DonL> kerlnel20,  Ubuntu has a linux core, so it's good for anything
[04:21] <dbzdeath> DonL: well said
[04:21] <DonL> dbzdeath, thks
[04:21] <anivair> lore_: i'm thinking, just a second
[04:21] <dbzdeath> you do get exceptions... *cough* linspire
[04:21] <lore_> Does the age of the card matter. its about 2 years old purchased through dell and in windows its listed as souldblaster live (WDM)
[04:21] <x3ndou> grr
[04:21] <anivair> that should actually help, not hinder
[04:21] <kerlnel20> i am kinda thinking, coz i am confuse if the support of this distro aint gonna last long
[04:21] <x3ndou> man I love that fade effect
[04:21] <anivair> older tech has more bugs worked out and linux tackles it better
[04:22] <dbzdeath> kerlnel20: can always move to debian... its basically the same
[04:22] <fmasi> troy14 if you find how to do it tel me i will try to figure it out
[04:22] <kerlnel20> does ubuntu have implemented SELInus?
[04:22] <kerlnel20> does ubuntu have implemented SELInux?
[04:22] <troy14> ok
[04:22] <anivair> lore_: again, right click the volume control and select volume control
[04:22] <guidan> k
[04:22] <encryptz> kerlnel20: not that i am aware of
[04:23] <lore_> ok did that
[04:23] <anivair> make sure you're unmuted in playback
[04:23] <troy14> fmasi, you can add repos to synaptic and then install webmin, that should help... for some reason its not taking my u:p
[04:23] <kerlnel20> hmm security enhanced linux a project from NSA
[04:23] <encryptz> yeah, and it is solid
[04:23] <lore_> ok, nothing is muted
[04:23] <kerlnel20> does ubuntu resolved ACPI problems?
[04:23] <fmasi> troy14 gona try
[04:24] <WhyvasLT> so someone tell me how to bind a specific app to a key in gnome
[04:24] <troy14> I have no pwmgmt issues with ubuntu, kerlnel20
[04:24] <bimberi> troy14: how about these packages? libapache2-mod-php4 (or libapache2-mod-php5)
[04:24] <encryptz> still a work in progress.  breezy hasn't resolved all
[04:24] <anivair> lore_: go to system -> preferances -> sound
[04:24] <anivair> make sure that everything is checked under general
[04:24] <kerlnel20> what is the kernel version shipped with ubuntu's new release?
[04:24] <lore_> anivair: ok it is.
[04:24] <bimberi> kerlnel20: 2.6.12
[04:24] <encryptz> 2.6.12
[04:24] <DonL> lore_, I know you've already checked this, but I miss it sometimes. Is there a volume knob on a speaker perhaps that got turned down somehow?
[04:25] <kerlnel20> k great
[04:25] <kerlnel20> how do u install packages?
[04:25] <lore_> DonL: very funny, but we checked that too.
[04:25] <kerlnel20> still dpkg?
[04:25] <DonL> I'm sure you did
[04:25] <encryptz> sudo apt-get insall package-name
[04:25] <bimberi> kerlnel20: apt tools (such as synaptic)
[04:25] <dbzdeath> troy14: i hate having all those seperate packages for different webmin modules... so i just install the package from webmin.com
[04:25] <N17R0> whats the problem when "Add/Remove Programs"  is not loading the content? The window stays empty
[04:25] <troy14> hmm... wasnt installed, bimberi... working... :)
[04:25] <lore_> DonL; and they are plugged ing.  8)
[04:25] <kerlnel20> no not online
[04:25] <anivair> try this url (if you can); http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[04:25] <fmasi> troy14, what is the url for using webmin so i can try it
[04:25] <anivair> great guide
[04:25] <DonL> Okay
[04:25] <mwright1night> What's the best way to get a ssh encrypted tunnel to a windows user connecting to the linux box so that the presentation on the windows machine is as a ppp interface
[04:25] <encryptz> manually?
[04:25] <kerlnel20> meaning packages from cd rom
[04:25] <troy14> webmin.com
[04:25] <WhyvasLT> N17R0, slow laptop
[04:26] <bimberi> troy14: ooh good, i don't know php much :P
[04:26] <N17R0> nope 1600Mhz P4
[04:26] <anivair> it has a list of stuff to run to make sure it's set up properly
[04:26] <kerlnel20> me i know php heheh
[04:26] <mwright1night> or some sort of tcp/ip network interface (doesn't have to be ppp)
[04:26] <encryptz> "./configure", "make", "sudo make install"
[04:26] <anivair> also, you can always reinstall the OSS stuff (I'd have to dig to find out how, but it can't hurt)
[04:26] <zpierreski> I think I might have a non-working copy of sun-j2re, can anyone give me a good apt-get mirror 4 it
[04:26] <N17R0> WhyvasLT: It was working yesterday
[04:26] <thompa> anybody know the latest kernel version in badger updated?
[04:26] <dbzdeath> kerlnel20: dpkg works for cd's
[04:26] <bimberi> kerlnel20: well, yes dpkg
[04:26] <troy14> that may not fix it... the issues has to do with .php files being assembled by a browser... what it is trying to do now is download the file...
[04:26] <kerlnel20> how do u activate service is it on /etc/rc.d/init.d ?
[04:26] <lore_> Anivair: Thanks will try that link. Thanks for all of your help. I'm sure I'll be back if this doesn't work out.
[04:26] <anivair> (I think my evil twin just quit, did anyone see that?)
[04:26] <dbzdeath> kerlnel20: /etc/init.d/
[04:26] <kerlnel20> how do u activate service is it on /etc/rc.d/init.d ?
[04:26] <kerlnel20> ic
[04:27] <fmasi> troy14, I mean once it is instaled
[04:27] <thompa> 2.6.12-9-386
[04:27] <N17R0> kerlnel20: rcconf
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> kerlnel20, for example /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[04:27] <troy14> fmasi... pay attention to what we are saying. synaptic install php packages for libapache-php5
[04:27] <x3ndou> Hey
[04:27] <p05iron> anybody knows to windows XP MCE?
[04:27] <x3ndou> How do I install new logon screens
[04:27] <kerlnel20> ic.. coz in rh it is httpd
[04:27] <dos000> encryptz, thanks .. it rocks now
[04:27] <x3ndou> and wehre can I find them
[04:27] <encryptz> sweet.
[04:27] <SlicerDicer-> I am trying to figure out if anybody has any experience with AMD64 and growisofs crapping out when burning dvds I can maybe get 1 burn then I have to reboot my computer if I am lucky If I am really lucky it wont waste the DVD+r anybody ever have these issues?
[04:28] <p05iron> HELoo
[04:28] <troy14> bimberi... didnt do it.
[04:28] <p05iron> answere me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[04:28] <kerlnel20> what is the default MTA, is it sendmail?
[04:28] <thompa> where does 2.6.12 kernel image come from?
[04:28] <fmasi> troy14, sory whas reading soma pages in the net
[04:28] <troy14> what about it p05 iron?
[04:28] <dbzdeath> kerlnel20: there is no 'default' you can install whatever one you want
[04:28] <encryptz> kerlnel20: not sure, actually.
[04:28] <thompa> wont that mess up my nvidia?
[04:28] <p05iron> WINDOWS MCE?
[04:28] <troy14> thats ok... i was installing php packages. you may want to check that you have php installed... :)
[04:28] <zpierreski> can anyone give me some mirrors for sun java?
[04:28] <p05iron> DO you know=?
[04:28] <kerlnel20> btw, does it resolve the issue on ACPI?
[04:29] <troy14> ok p05iron, what do you want about MCE?
[04:29] <x3ndou> Do I have to get logon screens which are meant for Ubuntu or just meant for Gnome
[04:29] <troy14> this is not a MCE room.
[04:29] <bimberi> troy14: :(
[04:29] <DonL> p05iron, no one will help you if you are impatient
[04:29] <troy14> that's ok... ill get it...
[04:29] <kerlnel20> coz FCs release has probs on unstable support on bios ACPI
[04:29] <linner> hey bimberi
[04:29] <p05iron> ok
[04:29] <encryptz> x3ndou: no- you can change display managers
[04:29] <WhyvasLT> SCCCCCCCCCOOOOOOORRREEEEEEE!!
[04:29] <troy14> suse 10.0 goes live tomorrow...
[04:29] <bimberi> hey linner! :)
[04:29] <p05iron> hoa many time i need to wailt?
[04:29] <linner> how the heck are ya'? :)
[04:30] <troy14> p05iron, I am asking you what you want. You are not answering...
[04:30] <linner> :)
[04:30] <kerlnel20> btw, does it resolve the issue on ACPI?
[04:30] <bimberi> linner: i'm ok, how's your wireless (dare i ask?)
[04:30] <p05iron> wailt me please
[04:30] <kerlnel20> btw, does ubuntu resolve the issue on ACPI?
[04:30] <p05iron> troy14
[04:30] <p05iron>  is ok?
[04:31] <linner> bimberi: it's so great i had to uninstalled ubuntu for now
[04:31] <troy14> I hate MCE... It's the biggest pile of M$ crap since Me.
[04:31] <linner> bimberi: oops uninstall ;)
[04:31] <thompa> hey, how do i remove the kernel? i dont want it.
[04:31] <linner> troy14: this isn't an MCE room
[04:31] <troy14> I would take a myth box anyday...
[04:31] <DonL> troy14, I've never heard of it
[04:31] <kerlnel20> btw, does ubuntu resolve the issue on ACPI?
[04:31] <p05iron> ok
[04:31] <encryptz> kerlnel20: ?
[04:31] <troy14> DonL Media Center Edition...
[04:31] <dbzdeath> kerlnel20: .... fedora is not ubuntu... afaik there are no apache issues on ubuntu... but i don't use acpi.. so yeah
[04:31] <bimberi> linner: yeah, i guess that's why you're waiting for breezy :|
[04:31] <dbzdeath> *acpi
[04:31] <dbzdeath> argh
[04:32] <dbzdeath> dunno what i'm thinking
[04:32] <p05iron> troy14 what is the difference in windows XP and XP MCE?
[04:32] <linner> bimberi: you got it kiddo! :)
[04:32] <bimberi> :)
[04:32] <p05iron> do you know what is????........................
[04:32] <dbzdeath> whats MCE stand for?
[04:32] <DonL> Ahh. I only use MS at work because I have to, and we don't do much media in that environment
[04:32] <dbzdeath> ohhh
[04:32] <dbzdeath> media centre edition
[04:32] <troy14> A program that lets you view and organize media content, and distribute it about your network.
[04:32] <QiHEWS> im so happy! =)
[04:32] <kerlnel20> hehehe
[04:32] <thompa> ok i removed the kernel now what?
[04:32] <encryptz> what does MCE have to do with ubuntu?  just curious.
[04:32] <troy14> it is just an add on program, not an OS, as they would like you to believe
[04:33] <DonL> linner, good question
[04:33] <dbzdeath> encryptz: nothing... i vote they go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:33] <troy14> it doesn't
[04:33] <QiHEWS> i got the web running on ubuntu, with a rt2500
[04:33] <kerlnel20> when can it be considered stable the new release of ubunto 5.10?
[04:33] <anivair> when it is officially released?
[04:33] <kerlnel20> Breezy Badger
[04:33] <troy14> this guy is asking M$ questions because linux people know more about computers than anyone in Redmond.
[04:33] <QiHEWS> so painless
[04:33] <thompa> i got ubunto 5.10. very stable so far
[04:33] <dbzdeath> kerlnel20: um early october... i can't remember the release date
[04:33] <bimberi> kerlnel20: due for release on October 13
[04:33] <linner> 10/15
[04:33] <encryptz> troy14: i am wondering what must me wrong with #windows channel
[04:33] <dbzdeath> yeah october 13th
[04:33] <linner> bimberi: really 3th?
[04:33] <encryptz> :)
[04:33] <linner> oops sorry ya'll
[04:33] <thompa> and thats on a notebook.
[04:33] <DonL> troy14, ha ha
[04:33] <troy14> don't know.
[04:34] <p05iron> Lol
[04:34] <troy14> I just came in to get php working, and then I will be on my way.
[04:34] <DonL> Maybe the windows channel costs money now
[04:34] <thompa> only thing was mounting windows.
[04:34] <kerlnel20> is it really 1 cd for ubuntu?
[04:34] <encryptz> DonL: that would make sense
[04:34] <troy14> DonL: That was great...
[04:34] <linner> kerlnel20: yes
[04:34] <DonL> lol
[04:34] <dbzdeath> hahahahaha there is a #windows channel :P
[04:34] <troy14> yes kerlnel20
[04:34] <linner> kerlnel20: wonderful isn't it?
[04:34] <kerlnel20> so it means it only has few packages
[04:34] <encryptz> damn licensing fees
[04:34] <thompa> im not sure how to  do home networking yet
[04:34] <linner> kerlnel20: it has a LOT of stuff on it
[04:35] <QiHEWS> hey guys, if you got problems with your wlan just ask me
[04:35] <erirlar> hi, what is the thing with the "universe" and "multiverse" reps?
[04:35] <troy14> no, kerlnel20.. you can install thousands of packages.
[04:35] <linner> kerlnel20: and synaptic works impeccibly well :)
[04:35] <kerlnel20> synaptic?
[04:35] <linner> kerlnel20: for getting new software
[04:35] <troy14> right, but I am hearing talk of moving away from apt/synaptic to yum... curious.
[04:35] <linner> kerlnel20: synaptic is the "apt-get" gui for getting new software
[04:36] <anivair> kerlnel20: synaptic is the ubuntu package mamager that you can use to i nstall mre software
[04:36] <anivair> it's reallty handy
[04:36] <kerlnel20> ahh like apt-get and yum
[04:36] <troy14> it is a front end GUI to make things easy
[04:36] <encryptz> yum?  for rpms?  yuk
[04:36] <linner> kerlnel20: yeppers
[04:36] <troy14> right... thats what I thought
[04:36] <thompa> synaptic is nice.
[04:36] <troy14> it sure is
[04:36] <anivair> and bear in mind that even on 1 CD ubuntu still comes with 10 times what windoes has on it.
[04:36] <troy14> and its FREE!!!
[04:36] <DonL> Played with Yum when I was using Fedora. Maybe it's matured. At the time it wasn't a match for apt-get
[04:36] <anivair> can't argue with free
[04:36] <linner> anivair: more like windon't
[04:36] <encryptz> apt-get and synaptic are the number one reason i moved to ubuntu from suse
[04:36] <thompa> im not sure how to use it with "add applications"
[04:37] <bimberi> linner: lol
[04:37] <kerlnel20> hmmm
[04:37] <anivair> yum and apt-get both blow on fedora.  apt-get, when used properly on a debian style system, is amazing
[04:37] <troy14> I still like suse, but I like this ALOT better.
[04:37] <linner> encryptz: me too... I got most everything to work on SuSE but the darned pkg manager
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> DonL, you can use synaptic on fedora too ... with yum repos of course
[04:37] <anivair> I hate problems with it in FC too, but not so much in ubuntu
[04:37] <linner> bimberi: liked that?
[04:37] <linner> :)
[04:37] <troy14> I use suse for my servers.
[04:37] <encryptz> linner: thumbs up!
[04:37] <kerlnel20> what is the problem u have seen in FCs?
[04:37] <troy14> I have a mirror that is close, so pkg mgmt was np
[04:37] <DonL> wickedpuppy, Yeah. I did that. Kind of an interpretation thing. Actually got me hooked on the real thing though
[04:37] <troy14> I like FC3 better than FC4
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:38] <bimberi> linner: hehe, yes
[04:38] <linner> encryptz: why thank you! :)
[04:38] <linner> bimberi: *heeheheheheh*
[04:38] <kerlnel20> my server here runs on fc3
[04:38] <kerlnel20> but recently downloaded fc4
[04:38] <kerlnel20> 8 cds huh
[04:38] <encryptz> i have hoary for my server, and love t
[04:38] <troy14> that's what i used before I switched to 9.3
[04:38] <encryptz> it
[04:38] <troy14> why 8?
[04:38] <DonL> troy14, fc4 messed my system up big time or I would maybe still be using Fedora and not knowing the benefits of Ubuntu
[04:38] <kerlnel20> btw, does ubuntu ships with source on packages?
[04:39] <kerlnel20> like kernel i want to recompile it
[04:39] <troy14> DonL, I tried ubuntu on a tip from a friend, and have been hooked since.
[04:39] <kerlnel20> i would just go to /usr/src/...
[04:39] <bimberi> kerlnel20: with more people getting broadband then a single CD with well chosen packages plus easy install of other stuff via the net works well
[04:39] <encryptz> kerlnel20: no, not with the kernel
[04:39] <troy14> i just need to get apache2 to use php
[04:39] <kerlnel20> what if i am going to compile the kernel?
[04:39] <encryptz> have to download the sources manually
[04:39] <encryptz> kinda sux
[04:40] <DonL> troy14, it really is nice the choice we have. The "other people" have no choice
[04:40] <kerlnel20> download the sources?
[04:40] <DonL> (trying not to appear negative)
[04:40] <kerlnel20> u mean at kernel.org the .gz file?
[04:40] <dbzdeath> encryptz: kernel-source packages
[04:40] <troy14> I have to use Windows at work, so I installed Virtual PC and use ubuntu.
[04:40] <Bazkaz> wickedpuppy: Did you give me the link to the NTFS sudo mount command? I'm installing full version tonight and wanted to have that before I do it.
[04:40] <bimberi> kerlnel20: no, ubuntu has it's own patched kernel source packages (named linux-source*)
[04:41] <encryptz> kerlnel20: yeah, or as dbzdeath said
[04:41] <Bazkaz> troy14: How does the Virtual PC work for ya?
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> NTFS sudo ?
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> not me
[04:41] <bimberi> kerlnel20: ...obtainable from the ubuntu repositories
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> !ntfs
[04:41] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[04:41] <kerlnel20> where?
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> there you go
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:41] <DonL> troy14, I haven't got that far yet. They call me network administrator because nobody knows dick about computers, but the most I've done is install Firefox on some machines
[04:42] <Bazkaz> thanks wickedpuppy
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> np :P
[04:42] <kerlnel20> where is the repository link?
[04:42] <troy14> can anyone help me with configging the server to rec php files??? encryptz???
[04:42] <Hobbsee> !repositories
[04:42] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[04:42] <troy14> i like it better than using windoze!
[04:42] <bimberi> kerlnel20: archive.ubuntu.com (and mirrors) contains the repositories for ubuntu packages
[04:42] <kurtbec> anyone else using kubuntu?
[04:42] <bimberi> kerlnel20: you can browse what's available at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[04:42] <DonL> troy14, me too, big time. Been almost five years now
[04:42] <pauldaoust> hmm. I'm wondering... you know the way print queues in Windows will automatically unpause themselves when the printer turns on/gets plugged back in/gets more paper fed to it? is there any way Ubuntu can do this?
[04:42] <kerlnel20> ok great
[04:42] <Hobbsee> kurtbek: yes
[04:43] <pauldaoust> (searching in forums didn't bring up anything relevant)
[04:43] <kurtbec> Hobbsee: are you running hoary or breezy?
[04:43] <pauldaoust> (maybe that suggests there is no way?)
[04:43] <encryptz> apt-get source linux-image-2.6.12
[04:43] <kerlnel20> btw, after u have installed ubuntu does it imply that apache doesnt support php at default?
[04:43] <Hobbsee> kurtbec: you might want to join #kubuntu, and i'm running hoary currently
[04:43] <troy14> I attack windows boxes at work just to get everyone in the office to see how crappy win really is
[04:43] <kerlnel20> rh and fcs are automatic
[04:43] <NewDude> lol
[04:43] <Hobbsee> kurtbec: i have tried running breezy a couple of times, and might later today
[04:43] <encryptz> you have to install the php-mysql module
[04:44] <troy14> i take over systems using rdpv5 or vnc and they have no idea how I do it...
[04:44] <bimberi> kerlnel20: probably not, but that's one of the single-CD tradeoffs
[04:44] <DonL> troy14, had to un virus a machine today. Took about 2 hours. Ad stuff, virus stuff. you name it
[04:44] <kurtbec> Hobbsee: I've just noticed a problem with gl screensavers under kde in breezy.  just wondering if anyone else notices it
[04:45] <Hobbsee> kurtbec: check on #kubuntu, but i recall it's a bug
[04:45] <styles> quick question?
[04:45] <styles> where is mcopy?
[04:45] <rendi> hi can help me how to disable autoupdate
[04:45] <dbzdeath> kerlnel20: just install the php5 or php4 package and then you have support
[04:45] <styles> syslinux tells me I don't have it
[04:45] <kurtbec> Hobbsee: i'll give that channel a whirl
[04:45] <DonL> kurtbec, my problem was with xorg. Wouldn't accelerate.
[04:45] <rendi> its very very stuck
[04:45] <dbzdeath> kerlnel20: and the apache module for php
[04:46] <bimberi> styles: mtools
[04:46] <kurtbec> DonL: its not xorg.  If i run the screensavers from the command line they work just fine.  Just when they are ran through kde do they not appeared accelerated.
[04:46] <kerlnel20> how about open office is it included in one cd?
[04:46] <bimberi> kerlnel20: yes, 1.3 is on the CD
[04:46] <kerlnel20> available for download?
[04:46] <kerlnel20> hmm
[04:46] <bimberi> kerlnel20: 1.9beta available for download
[04:46] <kerlnel20> i am kinda eager on ubuntu
[04:46] <DonL> kurtbec, ahh. Don't know. I have KDE installed but I much prefer Gnome. So I don't use it.
[04:47] <rendi> helloo
[04:47] <bimberi> kerlnel20: there's an active backport group too so OOo2 is likely to be available soon after release
[04:47] <kerlnel20> btw, what is the minimum hardware specs in running ubuntu with gnome?
[04:47] <crazyman101> hi
[04:47] <tritium> hi crazyman101
[04:47] <DonL> kerlnel20, you can install it no matter what system you use I think freely from the website
[04:47] <crazyman101> SO Breezy is hitting mirriors tomorrow?
[04:47] <kerlnel20> hardware requirements
[04:48] <kerlnel20> DonL
[04:48] <troy14> DonL: I use Panda, and I have better luck with that than any other av software I have tried. I also use Ad Aware, Spybot and actually the M$ Anti-Spyware program is pretty good.
[04:48] <kerlnel20> hardware req
[04:48] <Hobbsee> bimberi: or you can get OOo 2 RC1, if you go get the deb of it
[04:48] <rendi> hi can help me how to disable autoupdate for my ubuntu
[04:48] <do0bz> can Wine 20050725
[04:48] <do0bz>  in ubuntu be upgrade to the latest release of wine?"
[04:48] <Hobbsee> crazyman: the RC is, yes
[04:48] <troy14> crazyman101: The RC is hitting mirrors tomorrow...
[04:48] <kerlnel20> like 233 mhz pc and so on
[04:48] <bimberi> Hobbsee: ah, thanks :)
[04:48] <DonL> troy14, haven't used any of those, but will keep them in mind. Thanks!
[04:48] <troy14> the final release is next week.
[04:48] <kerlnel20> hard disk space
[04:48] <pauldaoust> kerlnel20: you can get away with 300 MHz, 64 MB... but it's rather tslow. I'm running it on some 400 MHz machines with 128 MB, and it's running fairly decently.
[04:48] <tritium> no crazyman101, on the 13th
[04:48] <Hobbsee> do0bz: yes, check out winehq.org, and get it from there
[04:48] <crazyman101> oops.  :X  My bad  Why do I think theres a major distro release tomorrow
[04:49] <pauldaoust> hey, now that Breezy is in wider use... has anyone tried it with older hardware? especially unaccelerated video cards?
[04:49] <DonL> troy14, sorry. I use SpyBot and AdAware
[04:49] <kerlnel20> hmm if that is true it makes a lot of since the fcs
[04:49] <pauldaoust> any thoughts on your experiences?
[04:49] <troy14> where can I make config changes to apache2???
[04:49] <dbzdeath> pauldaoust: know how much space a server install takes?(the minimum)
[04:49] <kerlnel20> coz at fcs my 1.7 gigs celeron kinda crawling sometimes
[04:49] <QiHEWS> do you know a good site for free games to play in ubuntu..i just ditched my burned roms and have come to the step of leaving xp completely, and would like to try out a nice game in linux
[04:50] <do0bz> @hobbsee is that the guide from the repository of ubuntu
[04:50] <kerlnel20> troy14: i gues in /etc/httpd/conf.d/?
[04:50] <kerlnel20> hehe
[04:50] <virgule> hey What would you do if all 7 remote controls in the house stopped working at once? They still 'work' as the led show up when the buttons get pressed but the signals wont reach anything?
[04:50] <pauldaoust> troy14: /etc/apache2 -- there are a few files in there though. one is httpd.conf (or maybe they've changed the name to apache.conf), and one is vhosts.conf (which you only need if you're running virtual domains), etc
[04:50] <troy14> can I tell it to use php files?
[04:50] <do0bz> @hobbsee i can get the latest wine in the repository
[04:50] <pauldaoust> dbzdeath: I have done a server install, but I've always augmented it with extra packages, and never looked at the initial space taken up anyway.
[04:50] <Hobbsee> do0bz: which version is it showing as the latest?
[04:50] <troy14> All I want to do is get the server to use the php in the site
[04:50] <do0bz> Wine 20050725
[04:51] <styles> Thanx guys
[04:51] <bimberi> QiHEWS: browse the "Games and Amusements" section in Synaptic
[04:51] <do0bz> that
[04:51] <Xenguy_> dbzdeath: I've got a nice Gnome desktop on a laptop, and it is still under 2Gb (FWIW)
[04:51] <Hobbsee> do0bz: as in wine 20050725?
[04:51] <do0bz> yes
[04:51] <DonL> Xenguy_, as someone who used KDE for years, I'm lovin Gnome now
[04:51] <Xenguy_> dbzdeath: so without X and all the desktop stuff, it would be a lot smaller
[04:51] <Hobbsee> there's a later version
[04:51] <dbzdeath> Xenguy_: i know
[04:52] <pauldaoust> DonL: what do you prefer about GNOME?
[04:52] <do0bz> wat version r u using
[04:52] <pauldaoust> (let's start a flame war ^_^)
[04:52] <Hobbsee> do0bz:http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb is the latest
[04:52] <Xenguy_> DonL: yeah, I find KDE rather gaudy (just my personal taste); GNOME suits my personality better
[04:52] <pauldaoust> heh, same here
[04:52] <DonL> pauldaoust, it just seems to work better, faster, and more efficiently. I figure bouncing icons I don't need, among other things.
[04:52] <pauldaoust> DonL: yes you need bouncing icons!!!
[04:52] <P8ntKid> What window manager do you all use?
[04:52] <QiHEWS> a few ones :) any recommendations for a rpger
[04:52] <DonL> lol
[04:53] <pauldaoust> DonL: seriously though... I prefer it myself because of the simplicity too
[04:53] <Xenguy> P8ntKid: when I don't use GNOME, I use wmaker
[04:53] <Xenguy> P8ntKid: if you want lean, xfce and icewm are 2 others worth a look
[04:53] <QiHEWS> hmm..i could play ADOM! =) =) =)
[04:54] <P8ntKid> Xenguy: Nah, i have been using Fluxbox for over a year now. I love it, i just want to try something new.
[04:54] <DonL> Yes. I seem to have less problems with it as well. I had to learn different ways of doing things, but it wasn't bad, and I like the elegance
[04:54] <kwilcox> Any  documented problems with icons when upgrading to Breezy?
[04:54] <P8ntKid> Xenguy: Does the apt sources have the newest version of wmaker? Cuase i installed it but it seems like an older version
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> P8ntKid,  how can you tell. :P
[04:54] <Xenguy> P8ntKid: and you have my suggestions dude - feel free to delete :-)
[04:54] <pauldaoust> aw poo. I'm trying to administer this computer network for schoolkids (and of course teachers who aren't terribly computer-literate) and when the printer goes offline and the CUPS queue pauses, bringing the printer offline doesn't unpause the queue. Does anyone know if there's something that would unpause the queue as soon as the printer is ready once again?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> P8ntKid,  i dont think the thing has changed much in 2 years
[04:55] <DonL> Xenguy, I'm always open to different stuff. But I seem to migrate back to Gnome all the time lately
[04:55] <P8ntKid> Xenguy: ???
[04:55] <Xenguy> P8ntKid: just press delete :-)
[04:55] <pauldaoust> (I'm asking this because these people won't know how to do this on a regular basis, and I'm not an in-house admin, so I'm not gonna make a trip just to un-pause the print queue ;-) )
[04:55] <eythian> Heh, I've been using KDE for years, and just started iwth Gnome. It's come a long way since I last used it.
[04:55] <QiHEWS> i dont really trust OS updates..my plan, when the cd pops out the mail, is to wipe the  hd containing ubuntu and to install 5.10 as the preview was..do you think that the boot manager will get along with that
[04:55] <Xenguy> DonL: gnome is great, except for older hardware, where it starts to chug
[04:56] <zeus1_> !wireless
[04:56] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:56] <Xenguy> QiHEWS: that's the wrong plan...
[04:56] <QiHEWS> xenguy so what's the right one
[04:56] <Xenguy> QiHEWS: debian, and ubuntu, and famous for "install once, upgrade forever" :-)
[04:56] <ibuntu> gnome works good. it works better if you ditch metacity
[04:56] <Xenguy> QiHEWS: s/and/are
[04:56] <DonL> Xenguy, good thing I gutted my system and put fast stuff in it a year ago. It' now almost up to the speed of machines you can buy for 500 bucks just about anywhere. LOL
[04:56] <P8ntKid> Xenguy: For what?
[04:57] <Xenguy> DonL: yep
[04:57] <QiHEWS> xenguy good to know
[04:57] <Xenguy> P8ntKid: /ignore me ;-)
[04:57] <QiHEWS> xenguy and that is done with the synaptic?
[04:57] <Xenguy> QiHEWS: yeah, it's amazing - it's pretty much 'apt-get dist-upgrade', but check the docs when it comes time of course
[04:58] <Xenguy> QiHEWS: sure, or apt-get, or the aptitude
[04:58] <QiHEWS> nice
[04:58] <ibuntu> you have to add the breezy repositories too
[04:58] <Davidleeroth> Do any of you guys kknow how to get the netcardconfig command on ubuntu
[04:59] <linner|HOME> wow i didn't know there were three of me in here
[04:59] <Xenguy> Davidleeroth: ethconfig(?)
[04:59] <nalioth_zZz> linner|HOME: do you feel pulled in many directions?
[04:59] <dbzdeath> ifconfig??
[04:59] <linner|HOME> nalioth_zZz: ya' think?
[04:59] <linner|HOME> nalioth_zZz: what causes that?
[04:59] <P8ntKid> What Window managers do you all use besides gnome and kde?
[05:00] <kwilcox> any problems with icons when upgrading to breezy? Nautilus no longer shows different file types... all directories and files look the same... its almost as if the icon directory was changed
[05:00] <ibuntu> I use openbox
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> use them all - keep what you like
[05:00] <tritium> what's up, linner|HOME ?
[05:00] <WhyvasLT> so someone tell me how to bind a specific app to a key in gnome
[05:00] <tritium> kwilcox, haven't seen anything like that
[05:00] <ibuntu> but right now I'm using gnome&openbox
[05:00] <linner|HOME> tritium: hey sweetie!
[05:00] <tritium> :)
[05:00] <linner|HOME> tritium: how are ya'?
[05:00] <_n00blar_> Hi all, any of you know how to make a logitech mx 500 mouse to work..actually the buttons on the left side of the mouse. I use the left side buttons for back/forward on my browsers in windows
[05:00] <P8ntKid> Anybody know any cool desktop programs that work with fluxbox?
[05:01] <Davidleeroth> ubuntu is a fun word to type :)
[05:01] <tritium> linner|HOME, fine, thanks.  How are you?
[05:01] <ibuntu> adesklets for fluxbox
[05:01] <ibuntu> you can add icons with it
[05:01] <linner|HOME> tritium: started a new job... and well, had to uninstall ubuntu.... but other than that GRrr-EAT!
[05:01] <omarson> Hey!, does anyone knows how can I get the root password?
[05:01] <linner|HOME> ;)
[05:01] <omarson> Hey!, does anyone knows how can I get the root password?
[05:01] <kwilcox> tritium: do you know where nautilus gets its icons from? cant find the option to change anywhere
[05:01] <tritium> linner|HOME, congrats!  Um, why did you have to uninstall it?
[05:01] <tritium> omarson, don't repeat please
[05:01] <tritium> !tell omarson about root
[05:01] <bimberi> omarson: the root account is disabled ...
[05:01] <_jason> !tell omarson about rootsudo
[05:02] <vader1102> omarson,  it is the installers password
[05:02] <linner|HOME> tritium: because i couldn't use the wireless and the clock problem was REALLY getting on my nerves
[05:02] <tritium> kwilcox, not off hand, no
[05:02] <zeus1_> DWL-AG530 it uses madwifi drivers how do I make it work on ubuntu
[05:02] <tritium> linner|HOME, you never got it working?  Which chipset is it?
[05:02] <linner|HOME> tritium: so I decided to install it again when the final is ready
[05:02] <linner|HOME> tritium: nope...
[05:02] <discgolfer> irc://irc.criten.net/0day
[05:02] <linner|HOME> tritium: broadcom........................ evil
[05:03] <linner|HOME> nice
[05:03] <GrannyTux> anybody know what error 196 is when printing local from server
[05:03] <tritium> linner|HOME, ndiswrapper didn't do the trick?
[05:03] <linner|HOME> tritium: nope... not at all
[05:03] <linner|HOME> tritium: sad huh?
[05:03] <linner|HOME> :)
[05:03] <tritium> yes
[05:03] <zeus1_> its not helping me either tritium
[05:03] <omarson> Im sorry, but is there a spanish channel?
[05:03] <zeus1_> im getting really pissed with lack of wireless in linux'
[05:03] <tritium> zeus1_, no?  sorry to hear that
[05:03] <tritium> !es
[05:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:03] <djbrieck> Question if I am running Ubuntu 5.04 will I be able to update to the latest with out having to download and burn another cd?
[05:03] <kwilcox> Anybody know the default directory that nautilus gets its icons from?? My files all showing the same defualt "page" icon after upgrading
[05:03] <P8ntKid> Any body know how to get this bar at the button of this screenshot? http://iamdebom.com/stuff/Screenshot.png
[05:04] <linner|HOME> zeus1_: do you have a broadcom chipset?
[05:04] <tritium> omarson, did you see that?
[05:04] <QiHEWS> what's the best roguelike for linux
[05:04] <zeus1_> no internet isnt gonna work for me...I need internet connection or ubuntu is pretty much useless...just think about it. No updates, no new packages, or upgrades.
[05:04] <zeus1_> no
[05:04] <tritium> no lifeblood
[05:04] <bimberi> djbrieck: sure - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:04] <linner|HOME> zeus1_: just use the ethernet port
[05:04] <zeus1_> linner|Home it uses Atheros
[05:04] <zeus1_> chipset
[05:04] <Xenguy> djbrieck: that is the Debian/Ubuntu specialty :-)
[05:04] <djbrieck> cool
[05:05] <QiHEWS> and if you can't make the card work, get the module source and type insmod *.ko
[05:05] <djbrieck> how stable is Breezy
[05:05] <QiHEWS> in the same directory
[05:05] <zucchini_folk> yo
[05:05] <DonL> djbrieck, have you been using Hoary for a while?
[05:05] <linner|HOME> QiHEWS: what does that do?
[05:05] <Amaranth> zeus1_: Hey, it at least starts you out with more things to do than Windows. ;)
[05:05] <linner|HOME> djbrieck: pretty darned stable
[05:05] <djbrieck> not long
[05:05] <QiHEWS> linner|home it installs the driver
[05:05] <vader1102> djbrieck, I have been using it for about 2 weeks
[05:05] <djbrieck> just installed about a week
[05:05] <QiHEWS> my rt2500 wlan card for example, needed just insmod rt2500.ko
[05:05] <linner|HOME> QiHEWS: really?
[05:06] <QiHEWS> yeah the proof is that i am here
[05:06] <djbrieck> have not been using it because my wireless card is not up
[05:06] <linner|HOME> QiHEWS: even if the chipset is known not to be supported?
[05:06] <zeus1_> doesnt matter....internet usage is the bane of my reason for using computers...I cant continue to use an OS that doesnt let me get online to get what I need and want
[05:06] <tritium> linner|HOME, no, silly ;)
[05:06] <DonL> djbrieck, that's good. I used mine for a while and had a bunch of stuff in here that I think didn't relate well to the new system. I've pretty much got it back to normal now..
[05:06] <linner|HOME> tritium: I figured so...... but a gal can hope can't she? :)
[05:06] <ngmlinux_> does anyone know where I can find drivers for the logitech quickcam pro 4000 and 5000 models?
[05:06] <P8ntKid> ge=screenshot2ar.png&bgc=0077DD&fgc=BB9999&bor=004499
[05:06] <P8ntKid> ge=screenshot2ar.png&bgc=0077DD&fgc=BB9999&bor=004499
[05:06] <tritium> linner|HOME, sure :)
[05:07] <QiHEWS> linner|home the breezy preview came with the source but the same command is used in the howto for 5.04 to make a rt2500 work
[05:07] <P8ntKid> Ooops, sorry
[05:07] <linner|HOME> QiHEWS: oh okay... well that doesn't pertain to my model... thanks for the info though
[05:07] <djbrieck> But I really like the project
[05:07] <linner|HOME> QiHEWS: hopefully it will help someone else in the channel
[05:07] <ngmlinux_> can i use a debian package in ubuntu?  or do i need a specific ubuntu debian package?
[05:07] <ngmlinux_> can i use a debian package in ubuntu?  or do i need a specific ubuntu debian package?
[05:07] <P8ntKid> http://iamdebom.com/stuff/Screenshot.png Does anybody know what program he used to get that apple like menu thing?
[05:07] <ngmlinux_> does anyone know where I can find drivers for the logitech quickcam pro 4000 and 5000 models?
[05:07] <QiHEWS> linner|home couldn't get more simple =)
[05:07] <TiMiDo> ngmlinux_ stop flooding
[05:07] <djbrieck> and the gnome interface is great
[05:08] <linner|HOME> QiHEWS: yes....... if you have that chipset
[05:08] <TiMiDo> ngmlinux_ and yes u can
[05:08] <linner|HOME> QiHEWS: i have a broadcom... so I'm pretty much SOL
[05:08] <TiMiDo> P8ntKid let me check it
[05:08] <DonL> djbrieck, me too. What I have now is a weird combination of Hoary and Breezy. I'm going to wait a couple weeks and then do another update
[05:08] <linner|HOME> and it's new to boot
[05:08] <linner|HOME> so............
[05:08] <QiHEWS> well linner if i were you i'd just try it out
[05:08] <zeus1_> how make wireless work how make it work  DWL - AG530 not working at all this is bull sheeeaht
[05:08] <TiMiDo> P8ntKid ask the guy of the screen shot
[05:08] <djbrieck> Always tried kde or other stuff like flux box on other distros
[05:08] <mojo> anyone good on logs here?  I have a dvd-rom (pana dvr-105) that comes up sometimes, but other times won't.  want to see what log files say about discovery errors or what not. thx.
[05:09] <ThomasM> Anyone happen to have a .deb for cone?  I'm sick of trying to get it to compile (it was built for gcc-3.2 and I don't have the skills to patch it forward to gcc-4).
[05:09] <mojo> actually it's a dvd burner
[05:09] <TiMiDo> !info cone
[05:09] <TiMiDo> bla
[05:09] <P8ntKid> TiMiDo: It was a post made in the ubuntu forums in the Desktop thread :( I was just browsing through. Idk if ill be able to find his post again
[05:09] <djbrieck> Breezy is still in testing right
[05:09] <QiHEWS> zeus, i just needed to do insmod rt2500.ko and activate the card in network manager..i dont even use encryption cus i set up my router to do mac adress filtering
[05:09] <linner|HOME> wow... this is the most folks in the channel that i've seen yet
[05:09] <linner|HOME> djbrieck: yes
[05:09] <calyth> anyone know what's the name of the applet that sudo in Gnome?
[05:09] <zucchini_folk> you guys where caan i go to test my java to see if i finally got i working
[05:09] <tritium> ngmlinux_, it's not advised to use debian packages on ubuntu, generally
[05:09] <DonL> djbrieck, just a couple weeks left
[05:09] <linner|HOME> djbrieck: but there are VERY close to the final... 10/13
[05:10] <bpasdar> I need help with kmail on breezy -- any experts here tonight
[05:10] <_jason> zucchini_folk:   http://www.bodo.com/javame.htm
[05:10] <zucchini_folk> i dont feel like going therugh the trouble of actually finding a reason
[05:10] <mojo> calyth: maybe gksudo
[05:10] <djbrieck> I'll wait till then probably
[05:10] <zeus1_> qihews its not even giving me a button to add a new connection in the network manager in ubuntu
[05:10] <zeus1_> what kind of BS is that
[05:10] <QiHEWS> zeus that looks bad..put do you have any devices displayed
[05:10] <zucchini_folk> thanks _jason
[05:10] <zeus1_> YES
[05:10] <DonL> zucchini_folk, try the Sun site. Can't remember the exact location of the dancing figure
[05:10] <kurtbec> mojo: /var/log/kern.log
[05:10] <ThomasM> !info cone
[05:11] <_jason> zucchini_folk:  here is the "official" site: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[05:11] <QiHEWS> zeus, is there a module source for your card anywhere
[05:11] <zeus1_> qihews i have the old modem connection displayed but its grayed out...i used it and it worked fine before i moved to a wireless
[05:11] <zeus1_> qihews idk
[05:11] <djbrieck> but this distrib look good to be a windows abanoner on my laptop
[05:11] <mojo> kurtbec: thx. will go seekin
[05:11] <vader1102> zeus1_, http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=33958&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=200508
[05:11] <QiHEWS> zeus give it a shot
[05:11] <strat> anyone with problems with java in ubbuntu??have it installed and when i go to..say..yahoo chatrooms java loads and all..i can see other peoples messages in room but if i type  a message it dosent show up in room??any one with problems with java?
[05:11] <zeus1_> i looked
[05:11] <calyth> mojo: thanks
[05:11] <QiHEWS> search wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:11] <mojo> calc: yw
[05:11] <vader1102> zeus1_, that is what I found
[05:12] <zeus1_> k thx ill look at it tommorow
[05:12] <zeus1_> i g2g got school in morning
[05:12] <zeus1_> later
[05:12] <bpasdar> does anyone else have the problem of kmail crashing when trying to send?
[05:12] <strat> java console  shows this error.......XML Parsing Error: no element found
[05:12] <strat> Location: jar:resource:///chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/mozapps/update/updates.xml
[05:12] <strat> Line Number 1, Column 1:
[05:12] <linner|HOME> strat: please use the pastebin
[05:12] <djbrieck> in other words who needs windows with this os, Wine works as well right...
[05:13] <ngmlinux_> this sucks i thought ubuntu was compatible with debian
[05:13] <TiMiDo> djbrieck cedega will
[05:13] <ngmlinux_> ubuntun can't run #@$#
[05:13] <kwilcox> anybody know the default setting in a nautilus config file so it shows a preview of all of the files if they are text, and uses special icons for most other types of files
[05:13] <linner|HOME> ngmlinux_: it is built BASED on debian
[05:13] <nalioth_zZz> ngmlinux_: source compatible
[05:13] <DonL> djbrieck, I don't even need wine. There are some native programs that work as well or better
[05:13] <tritium> ngmlinux_, it is.  What does debian have that ubuntu doens't, anyway?
[05:13] <ngmlinux_> yeah well there's plenty of software not compatible with it
[05:13] <djbrieck> whats is cedega a future release?
[05:13] <linner|HOME> DonL: I second that...
[05:13] <ngmlinux_> quickcam drivers, djbrieck
[05:14] <DonL> ngmlinux_, I'm happy with Ubuntu. Maybe you'd be happy with Debian
[05:14] <Kris_k> When Using VLC OR Mplayer to play dvd's it plays them all glitchy and slow and messed ???
[05:14] <linner|HOME> ngmlinux_: it's all a matter of preference
[05:14] <strat> is there a java room??
[05:14] <ngmlinux_> no the issue with linux is people don't standardize on one distro
[05:14] <kwilcox> kris_k: video drivers all set up correctly?
[05:14] <ngmlinux_> so you need a whole bunch of distros to run your apps
[05:14] <kurtbec> Kris_k: also check if you have dma turnded on for you dvd player.
[05:14] <nalioth_zZz> strat: probably. what was your question?
[05:15] <tritium> not really, ngmlinux_
[05:15] <kwilcox> ngmlinux_: not really
[05:15] <Kris_k> Kwilcox yes
[05:15] <DonL> ngmlinux_, maybe you have yet to find the distro for you. Keep looking
[05:15] <ngmlinux_> ok than why can't i install a quickcam driver in linux?
[05:15] <ngmlinux_> becuase it only works with debian and redhat
[05:15] <Kris_k> im using the fglrx drivers
[05:15] <ngmlinux_> i have those distros
[05:15] <tritium> ngmlinux_, then grab the debian source, and build it on ubuntu
[05:16] <strat> java is installed and loads..but when i go to yahoo chatrooms..java loads  and i can see there words,,but if i enter something..it dosent show in room..
[05:16] <ngmlinux_> tritium do you know the process for that?
[05:16] <nalioth_zZz> ngmlinux_: it's quite easy
[05:16] <linner|HOME> ngmlinux_: tritium knows all things linux *grin*
[05:16] <tritium> linner|HOME, not even close ;)
[05:17] <tritium> but thanks :)
[05:17] <mahangu_> what are the shortcut keys for 3ddesK?
[05:17] <nalioth_zZz> ngmlinux_: if you add some debian SOURCE repos your your sources.list, apt-get will build it for you
[05:17] <Kris_k> Kwilcox drivers are set up fine using the fglrx ones
[05:17] <linner|HOME> tritium: big a$$ grin :)
[05:17] <tritium> heh
[05:17] <djbrieck> Thanks for the info
[05:17] <ngmlinux_> nalioth_zZz can you walk me through this or will it take so long it's not worth it?
[05:17] <djbrieck> later all
[05:17] <synackuator> help!
[05:17] <josh> Anyone know where I can get VLC 0.8.2-1ubuntu2 for a64?
[05:18] <kwilcox> kris_k: if you steam video from somewhere is the quality ok?
[05:18] <strat> are there any websites that can test your java..to see if it works properly..??been to a few that just tell if you have it installed or not..
[05:18] <renedox> Josh43: synaptic?
[05:18] <nalioth_zZz> ngmlinux_: add some debian SOURCE repos (the lines in the sources.list starting with deb-src) and use apt-get to build whatever you like
[05:18] <_maydayjay_> anyone successfully compiled acerhk on Breezy?
[05:18] <xantho> what install LibMesa with Ubuntu?
[05:18] <Quinthius> how can i see my library path being used? LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't seem to be set...
[05:18] <Kris_k> kwilcox like from a website ?
[05:18] <Slyckevogod> SUSE Linux 10 is out.
[05:18] <kwilcox> kris_k: sure
[05:18] <Kris_k> kwilcox let me try
[05:18] <Josh43> renedox: Nope :( Just 0.8.1, which is not installable due to a bug
[05:18] <bpasdar> Does anyone have experience with kmail crashing sig 11 while sending?
[05:18] <mahangu_> how can i bind a key to /usr/bin/3ddesk?
[05:19] <ngmlinux_> nalioth_zZz there's no repo for these drivers
[05:19] <vader1102> Slyckevogod, it is and the wireless is broke in it
[05:19] <synackuator> how would one reset gnome to defaults via console?
[05:19] <ngmlinux_> nalioth_zZz you have to be a rocket scientist to install this crap
[05:19] <nalioth_zZz> ngmlinux_: then where do they come from?
[05:19] <ngmlinux_> nalioth_zZz http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/debian/
[05:19] <kevogod> vader1102, How so?
[05:19] <mahangu_> binding keys anyone?
[05:20] <Quinthius> mahangu_: sec...
[05:20] <DonL> This is the way I see it : The cost of using Gnu/Linux is offset by the possibility you will have to learn something. By learning something you're getting a free education into a field you are interested in. Seem like a win-win situation to me.
[05:20] <Amaranth> cafuego: ubotu says libosgcalc2 doesn't exist in breezy, http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/libosgcalc2 disagrees
[05:20] <vader1102> well, I runb a dwl-g650 card which in 9.2 and 9.3 is auto detected and in 10 isn't along with a lot of others
[05:20] <Josh43> Ok, alternate question; if I dounload the source of vlc and compile it, is there a major difference between that and "0.8.2-1ubuntu2" - ie: is there a real reason the version number includes "ubuntu"?
[05:20] <Quinthius> mahangu_: applications -> system tools -> configuration editor
[05:20] <tritium> !info pwc-source breezy
[05:20] <Kris_k> kwilcox what can i stream that i have a plugin for ?
[05:20] <ubotu> pwc-source: (Philips webcam pwc driver), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 10.0.7-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 73 kB, Installed size: 132 kB
[05:20] <tritium> ngmlinux_, ^^^
[05:21] <Quinthius> mahangu_: and then apps -> metacity -> keybinding_commands. set your command there, and then go to apps->metacity->global_keybindings and set a key to the corresponding command number
[05:21] <Josh43> DonL; nicely put
[05:21] <tritium> ngmlinux_, your pwc drivers are in breezy
[05:21] <dsfas> Hello
[05:21] <ngmlinux_> they are?
[05:21] <synackuator> sorry I got disconnected, does anyone know how to reset gnome to defaults via console?
[05:21] <dsfas> I need help
[05:21] <ngmlinux_> let me check
[05:21] <tritium> ngmlinux_, scroll up
[05:21] <kurtbec> Kris_k: can you play aa local video file without issue?
[05:21] <vader1102> night all...time for this 'ol boy to go to bed abd try to get some sleep......had 2 gours of sleep the last 2 days
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> synackuator,  could delete/rename/move the .gnome* dirs
[05:21] <Amaranth> cafuego: Nevermind, appearently I got the argument order wrong.
[05:21] <Ruffles> hi. has anyone here noticed a bug in gaim? it closes suddenly while in use...
[05:21] <TiMiDo> dsfas ask
[05:21] <ngmlinux_> tritium should i be checking in synaptic for this stuff?
[05:21] <zack_> my only problem with linux is ATI drivers
[05:21] <dsfas> I need a program that can retrieve raw php files off a server.
[05:21] <kwilcox> kris_k:any MLB (baseball site) has streaming video
[05:22] <TiMiDo> dsfas you meen ftp client?
[05:22] <kurtbec> Ruffles: use gaim all day long with no problems using breezy
[05:22] <dsfas> I know this is the complete wrong channel, but the only php channel has a total of four people in it
[05:22] <zack_> but thats the people at ati to blame
[05:22] <tritium> ngmlinux_, scroll up, and you'll see the info I had ubotu paste
[05:22] <synackuator> Dr_Willis: i think it may just be my panel (goes crazy at login), do you know if I can just reset the panel?
[05:22] <DonL> I'm off for the night. See you people later.
[05:22] <bob832> hello, i install unbuntu on a laptop, if i wanted too see if the cpu throttling apci scrpit was working for when the battary was unpluged, how could i go about doing so?
[05:22] <Quinthius> mahangu_: for example: apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/command1 = "/usr/bin/3ddesk", apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_1 = "<Control><Alt>F1" or whatever
[05:22] <ngmlinux_> nice it's already installed
[05:22] <ngmlinux_> thanks tritium
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> synackuator,  no clue there.. look in thoese dirs.. delete what seems to e panel configs - would be the logical step
[05:22] <tritium> sure, ngmlinux_ :)
[05:22] <Ruffles> kurtbec: well.. mine has a weird bug, i'm using warty by the way
[05:22] <dsfas> no, a non-ftp client that can retrieve the raw files. Like if my friend has a website where the goal is to break in
[05:22] <ngmlinux_> now i need to get the camera
[05:22] <Ruffles> bslima: ol brasileiro
[05:22] <Kris_k> kwilcox i dont have quicktime or wmp or realplayer tho lol
[05:22] <dsfas> One objective would be to get one of the php files.
[05:23] <bslima> ol
[05:23] <kurtbec> Ruffles: what version of gaim is in warty?
[05:23] <bslima> :)
[05:23] <CarlFK> dsfas - " break in" <> a program
[05:23] <mahangu_> Quinthius, didn't get that but nvm, 3ddesk is kind aresource heavy anbyway
[05:23] <nalioth_zZz> ngmlinux_: add this deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free
[05:23] <Ruffles> kurtbec: 1.1.4
[05:23] <winner> a new version of naim is out; where can i get it?
[05:23] <bslima> Ruffles, permitido falar portugues por aqui ?
[05:23] <zucchini_folk> i am sads
[05:23] <Ruffles> bslima: acho que no
[05:23] <nalioth_zZz> bslima: in #ubuntu-pt
[05:23] <tritium> !pt
[05:23] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:23] <zucchini_folk> i do not have appelet funcctionality
[05:23] <Answer> Does anyone know how much diskspace for *every* package in synaptic?
[05:23] <nalioth_zZz> tritium: slow
[05:23] <tritium> eh, bite me ;)
[05:23] <bslima> flws
[05:24] <winner> anyone??
[05:24] <Hobbsee> Answer: what you mean you want to download everything in there?
[05:24] <dsfas> CarlFK: a program called "Break In" will get the raw php files for me? Note: I'm on a windows box
[05:24] <kwilcox> anybody know the default installation path for openoffice2
[05:24] <Answer> Hobbsee: Did I stutter? hehe
[05:24] <CarlFK> jeez.
[05:24] <CarlFK> no.
[05:24] <dsfas> lol ok
[05:24] <tritium> kwilcox, use dpkg -L <packagename> to find the files in a package
[05:24] <zucchini_folk> apt-get update is the only comand i jnow by heart
[05:24] <Ruffles> kurtbec: it seems that this version is not the actual version for gaim, i've heard about gaim 1.5 and ubuntu's 1.1.4
[05:24] <synackuator> quick command to rename single file?
[05:25] <Answer> synackuator:  man mv
[05:25] <mojo> calc: yw
[05:25] <kurtbec> Ruffles: breezy has 1.5 but I didn't see a newer version for hoary
[05:25] <Answer> Does anyone know how much diskspace for *every* package in synaptic?  I want to do a "complete" install
[05:25] <winner> ok ok
[05:25] <Ruffles> kurtbec: ops.. i've said warty but i'm using hoary
[05:25] <Ruffles> actually
[05:25] <winner> anyone know how i can "upgrade" from hoary to breezy
[05:25] <nalioth_zZz> winner: see /topic
[05:25] <Hobbsee> !upgrade2breezy
[05:25] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:25] <tritium> Answer, you can't even do that.  Some packages conflict with others.  And you don't want all 17,000 anyway
[05:25] <winner> nice
[05:25] <winner> thanks
[05:25] <kwilcox> tritium: you know openoffice's package name 8)
[05:25] <Quinthius> Answer: umm i don't think that's advisable...
[05:25] <nalioth_zZz> Hobbsee: see /topic
[05:25] <Josh43> Answer: "complete" is not the right term.. monumentally cluttered is a better one ;)
[05:26] <Hobbsee> ah, that is up the top, didnt notice it
[05:26] <tritium> kwilcox, dpkg -l | grep openoffice.org to find the ones you have installed ;)
[05:26] <Ruffles> kurtbec: i'm lookin' forward for an update to breezy but i rather wait for it to be all done instead of updating mine stable release to testing
[05:26] <linner|HOME> what does this mean:  Answer too slow !upgrade2breezy
[05:26] <linner|HOME> i just saw that below winner's "thanks" remark
[05:26] <Josh43> tritium; could he maybe just download all the debs and source?
[05:26] <nalioth_zZz> where is ngmlinux_
[05:26] <Answer> OK.  So what is the biggest ubuntu installation anyone has successfully ran? (in diskspace or packages)
[05:26] <pw-> is there a program that will let me assign free space on my hard drive to a given partition?
[05:27] <tritium> Josh43, I guess...but not sure why
[05:27] <Quinthius> linner|HOME: it means Answer typed /me too slow !upgrade2breezy
[05:27] <pw-> partition magic in windows doesn't want to assign this free space for whatever reason..
[05:27] <Hendric> woah!!!
[05:27] <Hobbsee> pw-:gparted
[05:27] <Josh43> tritium: I dunno.. but it's as close as he's getting
[05:27] <linner|HOME> oh oh oh that's someone's name... sorry
[05:27] <pw-> thank you
[05:27] <kurtbec> Ruffles: understandable indeed.  I just tried kubuntu this week which has been my first try with a Debian based distro.  Breezy has been pretty good though so far.
[05:27] <sportman> hey
[05:27] <Answer> linner|HOME:  Hobbsee beat me to the answer, which was !upgrade2breezy
[05:27] <winner> damn im going to upgrade RIGHT NOW.
[05:27] <Hendric> anyone here knows how to remove "update-notifier" from starting up???
[05:27] <Josh43> Answer: That's going to be answered in terabytes
[05:27] <sportman> anyone know where i could find a place where mac osx coders talk
[05:27] <sportman> ive been looking on freenode
[05:27] <sportman> and efnet
[05:27] <Answer> Josh43: OK... I can multiply by 1024
[05:28] <nalioth_zZz> Answer: i beat you both with "see /topic"
[05:28] <Answer> I got beat by someone who is azzzleep
[05:28] <Ruffles> kurtbec: yep! truth! i used to run slackware some time ago but now i've tried debian sarge then ubuntu hoary i don't wanna get back to slack anymore
[05:28] <Josh43> Answer: Uhm, like, you have a peta+byte system?
[05:28] <grayman> sportman, i think that they dont talk
[05:29] <nalioth_zZz> i have an answer for ngmlinux_ whenever they come back
[05:29] <sportman> they have to
[05:29] <sportman> somewhere
[05:29] <Ruffles> kurtbec: apt-get is just fantastic
[05:29] <sportman> i mean then who is running the darwine project
[05:29] <sportman> and etc
[05:29] <grayman> erm. and what made you think that you can find the answer in a linux room?
[05:29] <tritium> nalioth_zZz, I gave him the pwc-source package, and he seemed happy
[05:29] <mojo> kurtbec: i think i may have a lead.  I get this every boot.  Now trying to go back 'till I find one where it worked...
[05:29] <Ruffles> kurtbec: now i'm trying to install ubuntu on 20 machines at my university's laboratory
[05:29] <mojo> Oct  4 16:40:54 localhost kernel: Probing IDE interface ide1...
[05:29] <mojo> Oct  4 16:40:54 localhost kernel: ide1: Wait for ready failed before probe !
[05:29] <sportman> lol
[05:29] <sportman> pl talk in here grayman
[05:29] <sportman> *ppl
[05:29] <tritium> mojo, don't paste please, or I'll take your mojo away
[05:29] <Ruffles> kurtbec: there's a knoppix based distro installed there
[05:29] <nalioth_zZz> tritium: i can give him a ubuntu deb
[05:29] <sportman> so i figured worth a shot
[05:29] <Answer> mojo: bad harddrive
[05:29] <mojo> kurtbec: thks again
[05:29] <Kris_k> kwilcox i dont have anyplayers to stream stuff in lol
[05:30] <grayman> erm
[05:30] <tritium> nalioth_zZz, it was an ubuntu source .deb
[05:30] <mojo> bad phys.?  it works usu. on  a cold boot.
[05:30] <Ruffles> kurtbec: and it has kde as default window manager but i don't like it at all
[05:30] <grayman> you can google sportman
[05:30] <nalioth_zZz> tritium: i've got the src repo
[05:30] <mojo> tritium: i usu don't but it was small
[05:30] <kurtbec> mojo: no problem.  good luck
[05:30] <Answer> mojo: cold boot?  ide1 I think is referring to a harddrive
[05:30] <tritium> mojo, cool
[05:30] <kurtbec> mojo:  post if you have any more problems
[05:31] <nalioth_zZz> what is pwc mangler anyway?
[05:31] <kurtbec> Ruffles: so far I really like the desktop that kubuntu presents by default.
[05:31] <Josh43> Hrm.. quick Q: if I want to be able to compile just about anythinhg, can I install all the headers and libs without having to change anything else?
[05:31] <Ruffles> kurtbec: i'll try its liveCD then
[05:31] <mojo> tristanmike: right on.  Answer: Ide1 is the inft. on mobo to the cd-rom drives.  ide0 is the two ata hdd's.  Other hdd is SATA
[05:31] <mojo> Answer: The drive is a Panasonic dvr-105 if I remember the model no. correct.
[05:31] <Ruffles> kurtbec: the guy who works on the laboratory doesn't like gnome, he's a kde fan, i'll show him kubuntu then
[05:32] <tritium> Josh43, you'll want to install build-essential if you plan on compiling
[05:32] <nalioth_zZz> tritium: i like have source repos so dependencies can be satisfied
[05:32] <mojo> kurtbec: cool
[05:32] <kurtbec> Ruffles: apt-get is pretty good.  I'm still working on getting used to all the different commands.  I've been a hardcore gentoo user the last couple of years and I really like gentoo's portage but just got tired of compiling
[05:32] <Answer> exit
[05:32] <Quinthius> anyone know how to view my library load path? LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't appear to be set
[05:32] <Josh43> tritium: that's a meta-package I assume?
[05:32] <nalioth_zZz> kurtbec: apt-get can compile for you, if you miss it
[05:33] <ColonelKernel> kurtbec, if the initial install didnt take so damn long I'd be all over gentoo
[05:33] <tritium> Josh43, yep
[05:33] <Ruffles> kurtbec: well... i wanted to try gentoo before ubuntu but a friend told me it's crap 'cuz you have to complite everything
[05:33] <mojo> I have been thinking of a Gentoo too.  I would like to see how a source distro would run on my amd64
[05:33] <Ruffles> kurtbec: so far i've seen some awesome gentoo screenshots though
[05:33] <mojo> but i like ((ubuntu))
[05:34] <kurtbec> Ruffles: Gentoo is a great distro to learn on and is a customizers dream distro.  if you like everything customized Gentoo is awesome.
[05:34] <tritium> apt-get source, for those who miss gentoo
[05:34] <Josh43> tritium: that's a better answer than I was even hoping :) Ubuntu is better and better all the time
[05:34] <calc> mojo: ?
[05:34] <tritium> Josh43, glad to hear it :)
[05:34] <mojo> calc: huh?
[05:34] <Kris_k> kwilcox Streaming Video Plays Fine
[05:34] <calc> mojo: you said "calc: yw"
[05:34] <Ruffles> kurtbec: i do but i have neither time nor patience to compile everything, even knowledge
[05:34] <calc> mojo: guess you typod for someone else
[05:35] <Ruffles> kurtbec: i've heard about some stage3 stuff
[05:35] <seth_k|lappy> Does anybody have a working Alps touchpad scroll on Breezy at this point?
[05:35] <kurtbec> i just like rpm and emerge from the stand point that you can most things with the one command where with ubuntu I have dpkg apt-get apt-cache....
[05:35] <ColonelKernel> tritium, are you kidding me?!?! thats fantastic
[05:35] <mojo> calc: oh, i said you're welcome (yw) to you saying thanks a looooong time back, LOL
[05:35] <seth_k|lappy> my tap and touchpad work, but not scrolling
[05:35] <tritium> ColonelKernel, what is?
[05:35] <calc> mojo: oh ok :)
[05:35] <Ruffles> kurtbec: which is easier to get gentoo installed with
[05:35] <ColonelKernel> that you can get packages in source instead of binary
[05:35] <tritium> ColonelKernel, :)
[05:35] <mojo> calc: np (no problem).  sry 4 the berevity ;)
[05:35] <kurtbec> Ruffles: stage 3 gets you there much faster.
[05:35] <ColonelKernel> now if I can figure out how to set GCC options Im set
[05:35] <Ruffles> kurtbec: but... do you still need to compile it?
[05:36] <tritium> ColonelKernel, one of the reasons backports are fairly easy to build
[05:36] <calc> i managed to charge my laptop battery enough to upgrade to current breezy :)
[05:36] <nalioth_zZz> ColonelKernel: apt-get is quite wonderful
[05:36] <calc> now i just have to wait for my replacement ac adapter to actually use it
[05:36] <Ruffles> kurtbec: i have an impression about these compiling.. it has no uninstall and seems that it gets linux bigger and bigger
[05:36] <kurtbec> Ruffles: usually there is a cd with binaries that you can use for initial load which makes that pretty much painless, but to keep up to date with security patches you'll have to compile.
[05:36] <ColonelKernel> tritium, any idea how I can set gcc options for my system?
[05:36] <nalioth_zZz> Ruffles: no no, use 'checkinstall'
[05:36] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell Ruffles about checkinstall
[05:37] <Ruffles> nalioth_zZz: what's it?
[05:37] <Kris_k> When Using VLC OR Mplayer to play dvd's it plays them all glitchy and slow and messed ??? Also When i steam video it plays back fine
[05:37] <misfit_toy> anybody else have amarok hosed up after the latest update?
[05:37] <kurtbec> Ruffles: well, thats where gentoo's portage system kicks and makes managing source compiled packages very easy.
[05:37] <nalioth_zZz> Ruffles: it is used instead of "make install"
[05:37] <nalioth_zZz> Ruffles: it makes debs  (for easy system maintenance)
[05:37] <Ruffles> ahhhhh
[05:37] <Ruffles> got it
[05:37] <Ruffles> thanks :D
[05:37] <tritium> ColonelKernel, not off hand.  I'll look into it
[05:37] <calc> Kris_k: maybe need to enable dma on your dvd drive
[05:37] <Kris_k> i did that
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> double check it Kris_k
[05:38] <Kris_k> how
[05:38] <Sonny_Wertzik> can someone tell me how to update a single particular package from an old version to a new one?
[05:38] <Ruffles> nalioth_zZz: sounds interesting
[05:38] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, is the new version in the repositories?
[05:38] <calc> Kris_k: just run hdparm /dev/device as root
[05:39] <Sonny_Wertzik> tritium, no but i have the deb package
[05:39] <Kris_k> using_dma    =  1 (on)
[05:39] <calc> hmm that should be working then
[05:39] <nalioth_zZz> Ruffles: it is very nice for system maintenance
[05:39] <Ruffles> do you guys know if breezy will come with support for non-free media such as mp3, wma, divx etc ?
[05:39] <kurtbec> Kris_k: have you tried playing the dvd with xine?
[05:39] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, where did you get it?
[05:39] <nalioth_zZz> Ruffles: it dont make debian standard debs, but for your own use it's great
[05:39] <bimberi> Ruffles: not out of the box
[05:39] <Kris_k> xine ?
[05:39] <Laforge> Ok i downloaded ssh, now how do i set it up to be able to remode desktop connect from another comp?
[05:39] <Sonny_Wertzik> tritium, from the software programmers site
[05:40] <Damienk> can Ubuntu be installed on a 4GB CF card? if so, how can I get it onto there?
[05:40] <kurtbec> Kris_k: xine is just another popular multimedia player.
[05:40] <ColonelKernel> tritium, maybe export GCC="-mfoo -mfoo -mfoo" ?
[05:40] <calc> Ruffles: those are non-free in the illegal to distribute manner
[05:40] <Josh43> Ruffles: a) they want to get away from non-free formats, b) It's quasi-legal
[05:40] <Ruffles> oh
[05:40] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, I see.  Well, dpkg -i foo.deb will install
[05:40] <Kris_k> is xine for amarok ?
[05:40] <tritium> ColonelKernel, that's at least one way
[05:41] <calc> Ruffles: though you can install totem-xine from universe which will play back most of it
[05:41] <Ruffles> so is it illegal to create a distro supporting such media formats?
[05:41] <kwilcox> laforge
[05:41] <calc> Ruffles: yes
[05:41] <kurtbec> Kris_k: no xine is a program itsefl
[05:41] <woodwizzle> I'm running breezy with beagle. How do I turn live-queries on?
[05:41] <calc> Ruffles: they are all patented and the dists aren't paying per user for them
[05:41] <kwilcox> laforge: you dont need ssh to set up a remote desktop connection, i recoment using tightVNC
[05:41] <Ruffles> ohh i see
[05:41] <MadpilotPPC> Ruffles, you'd need to pay the owners of those patents - like Linspire does, I guess
[05:41] <Sonny_Wertzik> tritium,  ok but i should say that it says my dependent files need to be upgraded...will that auto upgrade them too?
[05:41] <vitriol> how do i use hibernate?
[05:41] <vitriol> is there a command to type?
[05:42] <Ruffles> well.. what about slax (slackware based distro) which has support for everything nativelly?
[05:42] <Laforge> kwilcox ok i will try it
[05:42] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, no, dpkg does not grab dependencies automatically.  apt does
[05:42] <Pickle_Weasel> i am trying to resize my ext3 partition, but for some reason it won't allow me to do so, anyone have any experience in this area?
[05:42] <kwilcox> anyone know how to reset icons to be application controlled? updating to breezy messed all my icons up
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Pickle_Weasel,  resize it with what?
[05:42] <calc> Ruffles: they aren't doing it legally
[05:42] <Pickle_Weasel> gparted, before this, partition magic
[05:42] <MadpilotPPC> Ruffles, either they're paying money, or the lawyers just haven't caught up to them yet, I guess...
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> neither one lets me, i don't know why
[05:43] <Ruffles> ohhh
[05:43] <bimberi> vitriol: not sure about a command but it's an option on the logout dialog (System menu)
[05:43] <Ruffles> someone must tell 'em
[05:43] <calc> Ruffles: just like people pirate stuff off p2p networks, they can physically do it, but that doesn't make it legal ;)
[05:43] <Ruffles> lol
[05:43] <Hendric> my ubuntu clock is just super wrong.... it is correct in BIOS.. but so wrong even if i chose the right timezone.
[05:43] <vitriol> bimberi: ahhh ok
[05:43] <vitriol> bimberi: thanks for the tip
[05:43] <Sonny_Wertzik> tritium, well that the problem for me the files are files that are already installed just there too old of versions i guess
[05:43] <calc> Ruffles: however patents are sort of grey really
[05:43] <bimberi> vitriol: yw :)
[05:43] <tritium> Hendric, do you dual-boot?  Did you set it up to use UTC?
[05:44] <Hendric> tritium, no dual boot... i don't know if its UTC
[05:44] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, that's part of the problem with using non-official stuff
[05:44] <cdy> hello!
[05:44] <calc> Ruffles: aiui a patent isn't really verified to be valid until its been enforced which means a company trying to sue over it
[05:44] <mahangu_> anyway firefox can 'save' my open tabs and re-open them the next time i load it up?
[05:44] <tritium> Hendric, oh, not the answer I expected...
[05:44] <MadpilotPPC> Ruffles, Ubuntu is too high-profile to escape the lawyer's notice... smaller distros can probably get away with it...
[05:44] <Laforge> kwilcox how do i set up VNC?
[05:44] <Pickle_Weasel> does anyone have any experience in resizing partitions? =\
[05:44] <Ruffles> ohhh about clock, i have another question, can't keep my clock in the right time.. it changes everytime i restart system, is it about bios battery?
[05:44] <calc> Ruffles: so most people doing open source really don't feel like going to court to see if the patent will stand up
[05:44] <Sonny_Wertzik> tritium, ya but some of the official stuff doesnt work right...a double edged sword
[05:44] <cdy> ?
[05:44] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, like what?
[05:45] <Sonny_Wertzik> gdesklets
[05:45] <MadpilotPPC> mahangu_, I think there is a session-saving plugin for FF; Opera will do that natively...
[05:45] <calc> Ruffles: many patents wouldn't stand up to scrutiny but that doesn't mean it wouldn't cost money to take it to court ;)
[05:45] <dmlinux> hey guys , how do i install a Gdesklet?
[05:45] <Sonny_Wertzik> tritium, gdesklets
[05:45] <poyie> how to change icon in kubuntu?
[05:45] <Hendric> tritium, oh well it uses UTC... default
[05:45] <Ruffles> good point calc
[05:45] <Laforge> Anyone know how to set up tightVNC?
[05:45] <kwilcox> laforge: ubuntu comes with a Terminal Server Client which supports VNC... will you be connecting to your ubuntu box or anothing
[05:45] <Laforge> nvm
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> poyie,  icon for what?
[05:45] <Hendric> tritium, how can i correct this? the sync option won't help eithe
[05:45] <Hendric> *either
[05:46] <poyie> change icon i mean
[05:46] <tritium> Hendric, resetting the time doesn't fix it?
[05:46] <Laforge> kwilcox: i will only be connecting to my ubuntu box form another computer
[05:46] <poyie> change icon on a desktop
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> poyie,  right click, select its properties and look in there
[05:46] <mahangu_> MadpilotPPC, opera, can i apt-get it?
[05:46] <kwilcox> laforge: install tightVNC on the other computer (www.tightvnc.com) Just the viewer is fine
[05:46] <poyie> nothing option fo change icon
[05:47] <Hendric> tritium, it doesn't...
[05:47] <MadpilotPPC> mahangu_, no. But www.opera.com/download - there's a Ubuntu .deb file
[05:47] <maximaus> mahangu_, there's a .deb on the Opera sit
[05:47] <maximaus> e
[05:47] <MadpilotPPC> !tell mahangu_ about opera
[05:47] <poyie> ok i got it
[05:47] <tritium> Hendric, what happens when you sync to an ntp server?
[05:47] <Laforge> kwilcox, so i want viewer excutable?
[05:47] <kwilcox> yeah
[05:47] <Hendric> tritium, gives me the very wrong time
[05:47] <tritium> Hendric, is your timezone set properly?
[05:47] <Ruffles> well.. i'm leaving for now, thanks everybody
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> i had to get the opera static build  package - to get it working under 5.10
[05:48] <Hendric> tritium, it is... very much exact timezone...
[05:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> gdesklets .34 makes my computer stutter ever 2 seconds---only noticable when looking at screensaver or playing ureal tourney
[05:48] <Ruffles> kurtbec calc MadpilotPPC Josh43 nalioth_zZz bimberi
[05:48] <tritium> Hendric, no idea then
[05:48] <Hendric> tritium, oh, i got a work around... set my time to a wrong time till i get the right time on ubuntu
[05:48] <tritium> ok
[05:48] <Hendric> tritium, which is LOL
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Sonny_Wertzik,  ive heard some bad things about gdesklets. :(
[05:48] <Laforge> kwilcox, do i have to setup anything on the ubuntu box?
[05:49] <MadpilotPPC> Ruffles, np, have fun...
[05:49] <tritium> Hendric, well, it works, right?  ;)
[05:49] <Ruffles> now i'll go to ubuntu-br to speak my own language :D
[05:49] <Ruffles> bye
[05:49] <medy> m
[05:49] <Sonny_Wertzik> Dr_Willis, ya some of them work and others can be fixed but i need to try a different version to find out whats going on
[05:49] <kurtbec> Ruffles: later man
[05:49] <kwilcox> laforge: yeah, do a sudo apt-get install tightvncserver
[05:49] <Ruffles> kurtbec: cya bro
[05:49] <os2mac> is opera in the Universe?
[05:49] <Hendric> tritium, indeed... but i got the wrong bios time.. lolx
[05:49] <woodwizzle> how do you turn on inotify in breezy?
[05:50] <graig> my clock always messes up too.
[05:50] <tritium> Hendric, we'll try to sort it out soon.
[05:50] <MadpilotPPC> os2mac, no, but there's a Ubuntu deb, it's an easy install
[05:50] <MadpilotPPC> !tell os2mac about opera
[05:50] <kwilcox> laforge: you'll have to set up a password for your box in the tightvnc configs, then in the other box just type in your IP and you should be able to connect... if you go through a router you will have to forward the VNC port to the ubuntu box
[05:50] <Sonny_Wertzik> Why are the lastest versions of packages not on the ubuntu repos?   some are like 5 versions behind
[05:51] <Hendric> till now i'm still amazed on how linux-686 boosted my AMD sempron setup which is unbearably slow on 386 kernel...
[05:51] <mahangu_> Sonny_Wertzik, still on hoary>
[05:51] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, because only security fixes go into a stable release
[05:51] <mahangu_> ?
[05:51] <Sonny_Wertzik> manhangu...................ya
[05:51] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, if you want something more recent, run the development release
[05:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> tritium,  cant find one on repos..they are way behind
[05:52] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, I just explained why.
[05:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> tritium, ya but i dont care about security hehe
[05:52] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, so run the development release
[05:53] <jim> Hi, I got a question concerning version comparison to debian... specifically the installer, the dhcp client used and the 2.6 kernel installed by hoary
[05:53] <Rev-Marc> does Ubuntu support ndiswrapper and if so how do I use it?
[05:53] <tritium> yes, Rev-Marc
[05:53] <MadpilotPPC> what's really frustrating is that a couple of things aren't being updated for Breezy, even though there are newer versions out, and even newer versions packaged for Debian... Screem is the one I've noticed...
[05:53] <Sonny_Wertzik> tritium, there is no dev release
[05:53] <tritium> !ndiswrapper
[05:53] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> Rev-Marc,  yes.. theres a ubuntu ndiswrapper wiki entry.
[05:53] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, uh, it's called Breezy Badger
[05:53] <nalioth_zZz> Sonny_Wertzik: in 2 weeks, there will be
[05:53] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, and when Breezy is stable, there will be Dapper Drake
[05:53] <Sonny_Wertzik> tritium, ahhhhh ok i see now
[05:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> tritium,  what is dapper drake?
[05:54] <Rev-Marc> I am tring to get my built in wireless adaptor to work (BCM4306)
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> and slap them.
[05:54] <nalioth_zZz> Sonny_Wertzik: the next version of ubuntu
[05:54] <graig> so with debian sarge,  do they release new versions when new stable versions come out?
[05:54] <Rev-Marc> what is a wiki entry?
[05:54] <kevogod> The next version after Breezy Badger, of course.
[05:54] <tritium> Sonny_Wertzik, it will be the development release while Breezy is the stable release.  it will be stable on April 2006
[05:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> nalioth_zZz,  whoa u guyz are way ahead of the game hehe
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> at least Dapper Drake dosent sound like a  "Bean Eating Badger" :P
[05:54] <Amaranth> Dr_Willis: You have a problem with Ubuntu 5.10 and Ubuntu 6.04?
[05:55] <gigaclon> GAIM keeps crashing on me
[05:55] <jmg> anyone have any suggestions for a thin client distro i can install to hard disk from cd??
[05:55] <gigaclon> Ubuntu?
[05:55] <kwilcox> jmg: ubuntu
[05:55] <gigaclon> :)
[05:55] <Sonny_Wertzik> meanwhile are there any other widget like gdesklets?
[05:55] <Amaranth> Dr_Willis: Those are development code names, not official release names.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> Amaranth,  im sick of having to explain to these new people i am giving Ubuntu cd's to - about the 'cute' naming schemes :P it sort of turns off the church group  to trying it.
[05:55] <MadpilotPPC> Dr_Willis, Mark Shuttleworth names them, I gather, and he's the one with all the money...
[05:56] <nalioth_zZz> Sonny_Wertzik: superkaramba and adesklets
[05:56] <mojo> Rev-Marc: wikki's are collaborative web-pages.  you can usually edit what you see there if you register and log in with the site running the wikki.  wikki wikki web pages take their name from a hawaiian word for fast
[05:56] <tritium> jmg, edubuntu has thin client support
[05:56] <Amaranth> Dr_Willis: breezy badger is the code name for what will be Ubuntu 5.10
[05:56] <Laforge> kwilcox: can't find tightvncserver package
[05:56] <kevogod> "Hoary" was not the best adjective to use.
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Amaranth,  yes.. i am aware of whats named what..  :P
[05:56] <jmg> ubuntu is like 700 mb
[05:56] <Sonny_Wertzik> nalioth_zZz, super karamba...can i run that in gnome?
[05:56] <gigaclon> Dr_Willis, just call it Hoary or 5.04
[05:56] <kevogod> Mainly because of how it sounds...
[05:56] <jim> so, for the ubuntu side, what does the hoary installer boot for 2.6 kernel (which version) and could I get a copy of the config file?
[05:56] <nalioth_zZz> Sonny_Wertzik: yes you can
[05:56] <MadpilotPPC> !tell kevogod about hoary
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> gigaclon,  i call it by the ##
[05:56] <kwilcox> laforge: it is in the Breezy default packages
[05:56] <MadpilotPPC> ;)
[05:56] <mojo> Rev-Marc: You usu. see wikki pages for gathering info together as a community resource
[05:57] <Rev-Marc> thank you where would I find one on ndiswrapper?
[05:57] <randomc0de> how do I set gnome to use sawfish instead of metacity?
[05:57] <kwilcox> laforge: it is in the univeral repository, make sure you have that
[05:57] <Sonny_Wertzik> nalioth_zZz, Kool ...thx.....is it worth it...are they good?
[05:57] <kevogod> MadpilotPPC, Yes, but that still does not change what it sounds like. :-)
[05:57] <Amaranth> Dr_Willis: So don't tell them you're giving them "Ubuntu Breezy Badger", tell them you're giving them "Ubuntu 5.10". I don't see a problem with fun codenames.
[05:57] <MadpilotPPC> Rev-Marc, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[05:57] <nalioth_zZz> Sonny_Wertzik: visit the websites of each and see what you think
[05:57] <fmasi> what should be the permitions of /var/www i change it by mistake
[05:57] <Amaranth> Dr_Willis: Windows Longhorn, Windows Whistler, etc
[05:57] <MadpilotPPC> kevogod, only if you're not well read, then 'hoary' is a problem... ;) </literary snob>
[05:58] <Rev-Marc> MadpilotPPC thank you very much :)
[05:58] <Sonny_Wertzik> nalioth_zZz, hehe yes i will..i got excited and forget heh
[05:58] <MadpilotPPC> !tell Rev-Marc about docs
[05:58] <mojo> kurtbec: i thkn my dvdrw prob where it won't recognize may be a bios setting, after goggling on that log error. thx again, TTFN!
[05:58] <jim> you should use punctuation if you don't use punctuation you can't tell when one sentence ends another begins and ends here see you can't tell this looks really strange right
[05:58] <kevogod> MadpilotPPC, OK, you keep telling yourself that.
[05:58] <kurtbec> mojo: good deal.  good luck
[05:58] <randomc0de> anyone know how to setup gnome to use sawfish instead of metacity?
[05:59] <MadpilotPPC> kevogod, heh, I will. :)  but you're right, Breezy is less likely to be misunderstood...
[05:59] <jim> I guess you just install the package :)
[05:59] <mahangu_> in super tux, how do you throw things?
[05:59] <kevogod> MadpilotPPC, Most definitely :-)
[05:59] <graig> k. i don't know how different distros do releases.  i know how ubuntu works.  where you only get security updates not new releases on ubuntu.   is that the way all distro's work?  are there any stable distros that add new software when it gets released?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> I envision a Bean Eating Badger as the Mascot.
[05:59] <ColonelKernel> ok im in ubuntu now
[05:59] <ColonelKernel> im trying to set up my gcc options
[06:00] <kevogod> And the Badger is the state animal in my state.
[06:00] <kevogod> So @#$% yea!
[06:00] <Laforge> kwilcox ok found it, do i have to kill gnome to see it or terminal command?
[06:00] <bimberi> fmasi: my /var/www is drwxr-x-r-x root root
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> badger dance -->  http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/
[06:00] <fmasi> bimberi thx
[06:01] <bimberi> fmasi: yw :)
[06:01] <jim> bimberi: that way if some goof breaks in as www-data they can't do things like remove the whole dir
[06:01] <tritium> nalioth_zZz dressed up as a badger once: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=761  :-)
[06:01] <kwilcox> laforge: type tightvncserver at a prompt to get up a password and start the server
[06:01] <bimberi> jim: i guess so :)
[06:01] <ColonelKernel> tritium, shoudl use export gcc="-foo" or export GCC="-foo" or what?
[06:02] <rjordan> Has anyone else had problems playing ASF/WM files in totem/mplayer?
[06:02] <nalioth_zZz> ColonelKernel: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-2.95
[06:02] <stefano> heeelllpppp i am new in ubuntun and i can't listen mp3
[06:02] <tritium> nalioth_zZz, he wants to configure gcc options, though
[06:02] <ColonelKernel> nalioth_zZz, ? im using gcc 3.4
[06:02] <Omnica> heya anyone here have a sec?
[06:02] <nalioth_zZz> ColonelKernel: so put gcc-3.4
[06:03] <ColonelKernel> nalioth_zZz, im trying to set the gcc options
[06:03] <haslguitar> i'm trying to install Half Life 2 on linux with wine.  Has anyone ever done this before?  it says to insert disc two, but i can't unmount the first disc to put in the second one.  How can i force an unmount? i've already tried umount -f /media/cdrom
[06:03] <tritium> ColonelKernel, I'll be back later...
[06:03] <nalioth_zZz> ColonelKernel: i'm lost
[06:03] <jim> so, for the ubuntu side, what does the hoary installer boot for 2.6 kernel (which version) and could I get a copy of the config file?
[06:03] <ColonelKernel> thanks tritium
[06:03] <Omnica> haslguitar, VERY hard
[06:03] <Omnica> haslguitar, I tried, gave up after 4 hours
[06:03] <ColonelKernel> nalioth_zZz, ok specifically "-O3 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fno-merge-constants -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -msse -msse2"
[06:03] <Hendric2> woah
[06:04] <Omnica> I need help installing ... anyone have a sec???
[06:04] <Hendric2> well, i got everything duplicated with g4u... no more grub issues.. ehehehehe
[06:04] <pepsi> http://www.speakeasy.org/~jbutera/pics/peyes.jpg
[06:04] <haslguitar> any ideas how to unmount a cd in wine when it ask for the second disc in the installation?
[06:04] <jim> I did, but it was up a sec ago :)
[06:04] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to get snes9express to work?
[06:04] <Hendric> indeed!!!
[06:04] <Omnica> lol
[06:04] <rjordan> ColonelKernel, -O2 and -O3 break things...
[06:04] <nalioth_zZz> ColonelKernel: so append your line of suffixes behend the /usr/bin/gcc-3.4  (in quotes)
[06:04] <Omnica> im throwing it on a acer laptop ... I want to install it, but I dont want to lose my windows
[06:04] <ColonelKernel> nalioth_zZz, right on! thanks
[06:05] <Omnica> windows sees 2 paritions, C: (with stuff) and D: (empty)
[06:05] <Omnica> idealy I want it to go on D
[06:05] <Omnica> im at the partition part right now
[06:05] <Omnica> any idea what I should do?
[06:05] <jim> you'd have to remove d and put linux partitions there
[06:05] <kwilcox> tritium: fixed my icon problem... breezy for some reason uninstalled the ClearLooks icon set
[06:05] <jordan> kwilcox i get and "could not open default font 'fixed'
[06:05] <Omnica> jim: can I do that via the install
[06:06] <kwilcox> jordan: server should still be open, try connecting
[06:06] <jim> probably, from what I understand ubuntu uses debian-instalelr
[06:06] <jordan> ok
[06:06] <ColonelKernel> nalioth_zZz, - I put a space in between the /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 and the " correct?
[06:06] <jim> debian-installer does have a partitioner
[06:06] <nalioth_zZz> ColonelKernel: you may have to work with the "
[06:06] <jordan> kwilcox: not working still
[06:07] <jordan> kwilcox i will post at pastebin.com
[06:07] <jim> but you're going to have to figure out which drive/partition windows is talking about (the info that it's "d:" is enough to make a guess about where it is)
[06:08] <jim> you could try mounting it and verifying it's empty
[06:08] <Omnica> hmmm
[06:08] <Omnica> thats true
[06:08] <Omnica> thrugh a live cd
[06:08] <jim> then you know what debian/ubuntu/linux calls it
[06:08] <jordan> kwilcox: http://pastebin.com/384667
[06:08] <jim> or thru the installer
[06:08] <Omnica> alrite
[06:08] <Omnica> I will try that, thanks
[06:08] <jim> the box you're installing on is the box you're now talking on?
[06:09] <AlienEye> hi, how do you start and stop services? (I'm used to running rh)
[06:09] <jim> they're in /etc/init.d
[06:09] <jim> you mean manually start/stop?
[06:10] <AlienEye> umm.. ya.. i would usually use "service httpd stop"
[06:10] <jim> or arrange to start at boot?
[06:10] <jim> maybe ubuntu has invoke-rc.d
[06:10] <jim> but I usually just do /etc/init.d/httpd stop
[06:11] <AlienEye> hmm.. that doesn't seem to work for me..
[06:11] <jim> is there init.d in /etc?
[06:11] <AlienEye> ahh they call it apache
[06:12] <AlienEye> got it thanks..
[06:12] <jim> they do?! I'd call it aolserver... oops, revealed myself :)
[06:12] <AlienEye> haha
[06:12] <s3[mn] rain> Is there somewhere I can import a .kth kde theme file?
[06:13] <AlienEye> is there a doc floating around thats like a "debian/ubuntu for redhat admins?"
[06:13] <wickedpuppy> jim, yes ...
[06:13] <Laforge> can anyone tell me what is wrong here http://pastebin.com/384667
[06:13] <jim> you can import it from your room... you can import it with a boom ... you can import it with all care... you can import it anywhere!
[06:13] <wickedpuppy> jim, you can fidn out yourself easily you know ...
[06:13] <jim> wickedpuppy: well I don't actually have it installed... you mean my kernel/install question?
[06:14] <wickedpuppy> no init.d
[06:14] <nalioth_zZz> Laforge: install all your xfont pkgs
[06:14] <graig> is breezy stable enough to install yet?
[06:14] <jim> wickedpuppy: care to try your hand at this...
[06:14] <d[0_o] b> hello!
[06:15] <nalioth_zZz> graig: yes
[06:15] <jim> so, for the ubuntu side, what does the hoary installer boot for 2.6 kernel (which version) and could I get a copy of the config file?
[06:15] <AlienEye> i've just install breezy.. and it seems to be running well..
[06:15] <Severian> graig, to use for what.  I have it on 2 machines and it is doing fine.
[06:15] <nalioth_zZz> apokryphos: you here?
[06:15] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth_zZz , how do i confirm if my USB stick is suporrted by ubuntu?
[06:15] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, plug it in and find out
[06:15] <kwilcox> jordan: do you know your default font path?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:16] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, most USB sticks use the same standard protocol. It'd be a weird crazy one that was different.
[06:16] <jim> first of a few questions about that... trying to arm-chair-diagnose a problem with dhcp
[06:16] <Shin_Gouki> eythian , :P ur funny idid! idid spend 3 hours with someone who knows
[06:16] <Shin_Gouki> eythian , the strange thing is as follows:
[06:16] <Shin_Gouki> eythian , it is listed via: lsusb BUT we were unable to mount it :/
[06:17] <Shin_Gouki> eythian , gwildor suggested if its ntfs but it isn't since i used it also under Win98.. :(
[06:17] <twysted> one cannot format jumpdrives as ntfs windows wont allow it (security issues)
[06:17] <eythian> hmm.
[06:18] <Severian> Shin_Gouki, what is the capacity of the usb drive?
[06:18] <Shin_Gouki> eythian , Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0ea0:2168 Ours Technology, Inc. Transcend JetFlash 2.0 , thats the device name
[06:18] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, does it come up as a device? eg mine has /dev/sda and /dev/sda1
[06:18] <Shin_Gouki> Severian, its 128 MB
[06:18] <eythian> now that looks familiar
[06:18] <ubuntu_> peu.ro
[06:18] <graig> is there currently any problems doing a distro upgrade to breezy?
[06:18] <Shin_Gouki> eythian , no not ANY sda listing ://
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. wonder if this could be the official breezy badger wallpaper :P  http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/badger.jpg
[06:18] <eythian> My usb mem stick is: Vendor: JetFlash  Model: TS512MJF2B/2L     Rev: 2.00
[06:18] <nalioth_zZz> graig: none at all
[06:19] <eythian> what comes up in dmesg when you plug it in?
[06:19] <tritium> good night, ubuntites
[06:19] <graig> is there any problems running neverwinter nights on breezy?
[06:19] <nalioth_zZz> tritium: be safe
[06:20] <tritium> nalioth_zZz, see you
[06:20] <SOMNIVM|FACULTE> tritium, good night :)
[06:20] <Shin_Gouki> eythian ,sec
[06:20] <twysted> graig, there shouldnt be
[06:20] <graig> k ill test it out.
[06:20] <kenneth> hi
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. i forgot that NWN had a linux client
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:20] <Hendric> i got this error while mounting an NFS shared drive... RPC not registered.. how can i fix this?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> i never did finish that game
[06:20] <graig> yeah its pretty fun hehe.
[06:20] <graig> i play on the net on some of the servers.
[06:20] <eythian> Hendric, you have portmap installed and running?
[06:21] <SOMNIVM|FACULTE> time zones are wicked....I've just woke up :}
[06:21] <thoreauputic> Hendric: install portmap I think
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> i saw some huge expansion/combo today.. then another expansion for $20
[06:21] <Hendric> eythian, i just installed NFS and its dependents...
[06:21] <AlienEye> i've got the same problem and hendric
[06:21] <graig> yeah, if you want to have the whole pack for online play, you should get neverwinternights platinum version,
[06:21] <eythian> Hendric, I did that the other day, and it worked just fine. Try /etc/init.d/portmap restart
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> graig,  there was a expansion beyond that one also.. "king maker" or somthing i think
[06:22] <Shin_Gouki> eythian , here my thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72129
[06:22] <Shin_Gouki> eythian , it included the dmesg coomand output
[06:23] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, ok, looking
[06:23] <kenneth> i need a little help, I have a lot of files on my ntfs formated harddrive that i want to transfer to my home folder, right now the drive is mounted read only and only accesable by the root. how do i copy thoes files over to my home and make them belong to my normal user?
[06:23] <Hendric> eythian, i just did.. and still got the same problem
[06:23] <thoreauputic> !tell kenneth about mountwindows
[06:24] <humbolt> how does hibernate.sh know where to hibernate to and how does grub know where to resume from?
[06:24] <Hendric> OMG.. i think i need to restart.. can't open synaptics or any program damn
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> humbolt,  magic :P
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> humbolt,   test hibernation out first befor relying on it.. it was totally messed on my laptop sadly.
[06:24] <Shin_Gouki> eythian , wow someone replay with f dsik and i tried that command
[06:25] <SOMNIVM|FACULTE> have a nice day, everybody! I'm going to "fuck" - that's how people here say "faculty" :">
[06:25] <Shin_Gouki> eythian , now i can see the partion but how i use it..?
[06:25] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, OK, so you've done the mkfs bit? (note that following those steps will erase the mem stick)
[06:26] <Shin_Gouki> eythian , thats ok with me but i want to be able to use it afterwards also in windows?
[06:26] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, yeah, this should work in both
[06:26] <nalioth_zZz> SOMNIVM|FACULTE: well we dont use it here, due to manners
[06:27] <Shin_Gouki> eythian , ok then tell me the commands to delete it AND then how to mount it to put data on it
[06:27] <Severian> Shin_Gouki, you noticed the response in that thread didn't you.  Your example was the wrong syntax for sure
[06:27] <Shin_Gouki> Severian , i am aware &behind this now
[06:27] <Jedrick> how to play mp3 files?, it wont play on my xmms
[06:27] <humbolt> DR_Willis: it worked on my last vaio with no problem at all. but now it does not seem to do anything. it seems it does not know how to wake up somehow
[06:27] <SOMNIVM|FACULTE> nalioth_zZz, I didn't mean to injure someone...it's just a words-game :}
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> humbolt,  yep... same issue.. laptops and their suspends.. can be a bit of a gamble it seems. sadly
[06:28] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, to delete a partition from within fdisk use 'd'. To get a list of partitions, press 'p'.
[06:28] <thoreauputic> Jedrick: choose the esound output plugin in option-prefs
[06:28] <Jedrick> ok wait i go check
[06:28] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, to save your changes, press 'w'
[06:29] <nalioth_zZz> SOMNIVM|FACULTE: we try to respect the words and ways of the english speaking folks here
[06:29] <graig> what all do you have to do to upgrade to breezy?   just change the apt-get sources, update, and dist-upgrade?
[06:29] <nalioth_zZz> graig: see /topic   and yes
[06:29] <thoreauputic> !upgrade2breezy
[06:29] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:29] <Jedrick> im there but haven't seen any output plugins
[06:29] <dmlinux> WTF whenever i start Firefox it goes to whatuseek.com no matter what i set my homepage at???????????/
[06:29] <Hobbsee> :P beat you nalioth_zZz...you're turn again next time :P
[06:29] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, shall i paste in here the fdsik ooutput? u may find it interesting!
[06:30] <thoreauputic> Jedrick: at the bottom from memory
[06:30] <graig> thanks.
[06:30] <jim> ubotu: what are you
[06:30] <ubotu> jim: what are you talking about?
[06:30] <benplaut> where does ubuntu keep it's backgrounds?
[06:30] <jim> infobot
[06:30] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i stop a running SSH server?
[06:30] <thoreauputic> jim: blootbot
[06:30] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, use the ubuntu pasty thing. I'll find the url unles someone else knows it.
[06:30] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh stop
[06:30] <Jedrick> what memory?
[06:30] <jim> oh it's a bloot
[06:30] <twysted> dmlinux> have any extensions installed?
[06:30] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: or just remove openssh-server
[06:30] <mdz> humbolt: hibernate.sh tells the kernel to hibernate; it uses the first swap partition or so.  resume is configured in /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf
[06:31] <Shin_Gouki> ty, crimsun
[06:31] <thoreauputic> Jedrick: mine :) I meant I seemed to remember it was a t the bottom :)
[06:31] <dmlinux> twysted seems that my starter bar does it, is there anyway to change that??
[06:31] <benplaut> jim: no, it's a blooper :P
[06:31] <jim> ubotu: blooper
[06:31] <ubotu> No idea, jim
[06:31] <Jedrick> ey i got it
[06:31] <Jedrick> i found the esound and it plays now
[06:31] <Jedrick> thnx
[06:31] <twysted> dmlinux> go into the firefox tools menu and go to extensions and remove whatever you see in there
[06:31] <Jedrick> kool
[06:31] <thoreauputic> Jedrick: no worries
[06:31] <SOMNIVM|FACULTE> nalioth_zZz, whatever... I have another point of view, but I don't have time to explain now....I'm going out...bye
[06:31] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, use this for pasting stuff into: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[06:32] <dmlinux> twysted only english pack there
[06:32] <cafuego> Hmm. I see HT is disabled by default on the SMP ekrnel in breezy. What do I pass to force it to enable?
[06:32] <twysted> try removing it and see if that helps
[06:32] <jim> ubotu, kp
[06:32] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, jim
[06:32] <jim> ubotu, listkeys kernel
[06:32] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'kernel' by key (2 shown): kernelcompile ;; kernelhowto.
[06:33] <jim> there goes my hub...
[06:33] <dmlinux> its my starter bar that does it not extension. Anyone know how to change that in my Gdesklet "starterbar"???
[06:33] <humbolt> DR_Willis: ah, the latter file still had the old resume disk setup. so resume disk is hardcoded in /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf for everybody else, that did not know!
[06:34] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, there ya go i UPDATED it :http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=389942&posted=1#post389942
[06:34] <Jedrick> i need help i got this error everytime i turn on my pc. " error: failed to initialize HAL. "
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> humbolt,  dissecting Linux is so fun.
[06:34] <jim> ubotu, listkeys debian-installer
[06:34] <Jedrick> why is that
[06:34] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'debian-installer' by key returned no results.
[06:34] <humbolt> but does that mean, initrd is created every time I hibernate?
[06:34] <kenneth> thanks
[06:34] <Shin_Gouki> Jederick i can tell u: HAL means: Hardware Abstraction Layer
[06:34] <thoreauputic> jim: if you want to play witht the bot, do it in /query please
[06:35] <Shin_Gouki> Jederick so in other words NOT good ^^
[06:35] <humbolt> does anybody know how to get my linux to use 1024x768 at the console by the way?
[06:35] <Jedrick> so what should i do?
[06:35] <Shin_Gouki> xorg.conf?
[06:35] <Shin_Gouki> Jederick no idea this is no common error!
[06:36] <Jedrick> :(
[06:36] <jim> I'm done... it doesn't seem to know what I'm after... could someone tell me what hoary installer boots, which kernel? also which dhcp client is used when the net gets brought up by the installer?
[06:36] <Jedrick> how to play video files on totem movie player?
[06:36] <humbolt> I have vga=791 and it complains about not finding vesafb.ko in initrd but then magically use 1024 mode. so I assume there must be a way to make it use 1024 without using vesafb?!
[06:36] <edgarin> Howto install pygestor in Ubuntu??
[06:36] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, were u able to read the fdisk output?
[06:36] <Josh43> Jedrick: FOr the HAL problem, try updating your bios
[06:36] <Bazkaz> !ntfs
[06:36] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[06:36] <Jedrick> How to update bios?
[06:37] <Laforge> with vnc do i connect to external or internal ip?
[06:37] <graig> hi, i edited the apt repository file, and when i did apt-update it gives an error.  couldn't stat source package list cdrom
[06:37] <jim> Jedrick: check your motherboard manual.
[06:37] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, looking. I'm also making food, so slow to reply :)
[06:38] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, dont hurry! food is MORE important , i can tell :)
[06:38] <Shin_Gouki> hi! were do i disable autostart for my SSH server, i want to start it manualy via cmd?
[06:38] <Jedrick> how to play video files on totem movie player?
[06:38] <jim> also bioses are assembled for particular motherboards... be SURE you have the right one BEFORE you even start. if you don't, then you risk making the motherboard USELESS.
[06:38] <Shin_Gouki> Jedrick , use Mplayer+Win32 codecs?
[06:39] <Jedrick> what is that?
[06:39] <graig> does it have to be us.archive or archive in the apt sources list?
[06:39] <Jedrick> im just new to linux so im not familiar
[06:39] <Shin_Gouki> Jedrick , use wikipedia to look for it! its inside
[06:39] <Shin_Gouki> Jedrick , thats not a problem look into wikipedia
[06:39] <jim> Jedrick: why do you want to update your bios?
[06:40] <Jedrick> where can i find that wikipedia
[06:40] <Shin_Gouki> Jedrick , go google and type it
[06:40] <Jedrick> ok
[06:40] <nalioth_zZz> graig: whatever is closest to you
[06:40] <jim> hmm, I could head to vinnies and play some tunes
[06:40] <benplaut> anyone know where ubuntu stores it's backgrounds?
[06:40] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, ok, that looks OK. don't worry about the warning, mine does the same. Are you sure there is no /dev/sda1 device?
[06:41] <calc> benplaut: /usr/share/backgrounds
[06:41] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, when i go into that directory via MC
[06:41] <nalioth_zZz> benplaut: /usr/share/wallpaper(s)
[06:41] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, which color should sda1 should have?
[06:41] <Josh43> hrm... I can run i386/686 binaries on my a64 build, right?
[06:42] <calc> Josh43: yes
[06:42] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, try just typing: "file /dev/sda /dev/sda1" and seeing what it says
[06:42] <crispynix> benplaut: /usr/share/GNOME-is-NOT-Ubuntu ;p
[06:42] <mr_roboto>  Shin_Gouki: removing /etc/rc?.d/S*sshd will prevent ssh server from starting on boot
[06:42] <benplaut> thanks
[06:42] <Josh43> Ok, second question is: how can I get the i686 binary for the latest vlc out of apt-get?
[06:42] <crispynix> np
[06:42] <greg> how do i run a .bin file? i just downloaded java... Please...!
[06:42] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, /dev/sda:  block special (8/0)
[06:42] <Shin_Gouki> /dev/sda1: block special (8/1)
[06:43] <jordan> ubuntuserver:1
[06:43] <eythian> Shin_Gouki,  OK. what is in /media/usbstick? That's where mine mounts to.
[06:43] <nalioth_zZz> greg: get this java
[06:43] <mr_roboto> greg: sudo sh <file.bin>
[06:43] <eythian> greg: don't do it!
[06:43] <eythian> greg: there is a better way to install java
[06:44] <jim> does ubuntu have java-package?
[06:44] <dmlinux> Hey guys, ihave a question
[06:44] <eythian> jim: yep
[06:44] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, note that i am NOT using gnome nor KDE
[06:44] <_jason> !java
[06:44] <ubotu> methinks java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[06:44] <jim> if I had a question...
[06:44] <dmlinux> How do you install Flashplayer if you just downloaded the .GZ
[06:44] <nalioth_zZz> _jason: it's !javadeb
[06:44] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, that shouldn't matter. I don't think they do the mounting, they just make icons appear.
[06:44] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, the media has some floppy & CDrom NO USB
[06:44] <_jason> nalioth_zZz:  oh... sry
[06:45] <jim> dmlinux: what do the directions say
[06:45] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, hey, type: 'mount | grep sda' and see if it says anything.
[06:45] <nalioth_zZz> java is no longer in the repos
[06:45] <darius___> When this next version of Ubuntu is released, will there be a way to upgrade my 5.04 install to it?
[06:45] <seethru> darius___: there already is
[06:45] <crimsun> !breezyupgradenotes
[06:45] <ubotu> crimsun: Syntax error in line 1
[06:45] <nalioth_zZz> darius___: yes, see /topic
[06:45] <thoreauputic> darius___:  /topic
[06:45] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, seems to work
[06:45] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, oh, actually mine appears on /media/usb0 ... do you have that?
[06:45] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, were may i look the result??
[06:45] <graig> is the us.archive.ubuntu.com  servers less up to date than the archive.ubuntu.com?
[06:45] <dmlinux> im oh hehe didnt see the txt file :P
[06:45] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, nope just floppy & cdrom as i told u
[06:46] <_jason> nalioth_zZz:  the wiki has instructions for downloading from sun though.  I just did it.
[06:46] <greg> ubotu: i tried that (apt-get java...) but it says that j2re1.4 has no installation condidate
[06:46] <ubotu> greg: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[06:46] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, you should have seen something like: /dev/sda        /media/usb0     auto...
[06:46] <greg> oh...
[06:46] <greg> okay
[06:46] <jim> you have to get the .bin from sun or blackdown or ibm or whatever,,, then you make a debian package using the tools in java-package.... then you install the debian package you just built...
[06:46] <eythian> OK. try typing mount /dev/sda1
[06:46] <thoreauputic> !javadeb
[06:46] <ubotu> hmm... javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[06:46] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, and if i dont have? :)
[06:46] <thoreauputic> easier
[06:46] <jim> and it does automatic things like install java plugin into browser you have installed
[06:46] <nalioth_zZz> greg: read about javadeb above ^^^^
[06:47] <greg> jim: how do i make deb? please- small words...
[06:47] <jim> first install java-package
[06:47] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, then it's not automounting at least :)
[06:47] <nalioth_zZz> greg: you read waht ubotu said above, or what ubotu sent you in a private msg
[06:47] <greg> yeah
[06:47] <greg> i did
[06:47] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, but try typing what's just above and see what happens
[06:47] <jim> then read /usr/share/doc/java-package/SUPPORTED
[06:47] <thoreauputic> jim: much easier to use the debs as above
[06:47] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, i know the dmesg output should have telled u?
[06:47] <nalioth_zZz> jim: we have a better way
[06:48] <eythian> yeah, but I'm just making sure.
[06:48] <jim> what better way?
[06:48] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, i tried VARIED mount commands some did work , but i NEVER found the directory were to access the data from the stick
[06:48] <thoreauputic> jim: ubotu jsut said
[06:48] <thoreauputic> !tell jim about javadeb
[06:48] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, plz again what exactly shall itype in?
[06:48] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, try "mount /dev/sda1" and then type "mount" and it will tell you where things are mounted to.
[06:48] <nalioth_zZz> mr ubotu is gettin  a workout
[06:48] <jim> so ubuntu has been granted distribution permission?
[06:49] <graig> does breezy come with anything new like that beagle desktop search?
[06:49] <nalioth_zZz> jim: nope. i'm illegally offering them
[06:49] <jim> then it's not better
[06:49] <nalioth_zZz> graig: beagle
[06:49] <thoreauputic> jim: no, some people are doing it anonymously I guess
[06:49] <Ryan_T> I got a question, if i creat a partition using iPartition, can i install Ubuntu on it?
[06:49] <nalioth_zZz> jim: it is to the end user who cares not about legalities
[06:49] <jim> well the good news is it's not that hard :)
[06:49] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:50] <calc> java jre is in multiverse
[06:50] <jim> you can be (1) legal and (2) not unnecessarily put someone else at risk
[06:50] <nalioth_zZz> calc: not anymore
[06:50] <thoreauputic> calc: in breezy yes
[06:50] <greg> okay- i'm getting it
[06:50] <calc> thoreauputic: yea
[06:50] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, weird. type: "mkdir /media/usbdisk ; mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk"
[06:50] <greg> thanks....!
[06:50] <thoreauputic> nalioth_zZz: Oh really?
[06:50] <calc> Filename: pool/multiverse/j/j2se1.4-amd64/j2re1.4_1.4.2.02-1_amd64.deb
[06:51] <calc> i accidentally installed it earlier tonight
[06:51] <cafuego_> Ryan_T: Best is to resize the current OSX partition and leave in between 4 and whatever GB free at the end of the drive. The Ubuntu installer cna then use that free space to create its partitions (it needs 3 or more, for booting etc)
[06:51] <cafuego_> calc: That 64bit jre doesn't work with OOo2 though.
[06:52] <nalioth_zZz> Ryan_T: i wish you the best of luck with iPartition. i never could figure out how to get it to work
[06:52] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, then look in /media/usbdisk
[06:52] <calc> cafuego_: ok, i don't really care since i don't use anything that uses java anyway
[06:52] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, u did it :)
[06:52] <thoreauputic> calc: IIRC that would be Blackdown Java
[06:52] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, its finally worked :)
[06:52] <calc> thoreauputic: it is
[06:52] <cafuego_> and the 1.4 jre also has a habit of doing poo.
[06:52] <calc> will be nice when gnu classpath is fully 1.4/1.5 compliant
[06:52] <mylastmorning> does anyone use snes?
[06:52] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, cool. I don't know why it wasn't automounting however.
[06:52] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, plz tell me what to do this & next time i want to plug in?
[06:53] <jim> why does ubuntu need 3 partitions?
[06:53] <thoreauputic> jim: it doesn't
[06:53] <Crazy_Man> should only need 2
[06:53] <crimsun> it doesn't, it needs one.
[06:53] <mahangu_> jim, it doesn't
[06:53] <mahangu_> bah, sorry thoreauputic, lagt
[06:53] <Crazy_Man> well, needs one.....recommend swap?
[06:53] <crimsun> you don't have to make a swap if you don't want
[06:53] <Crazy_Man> *recommended
[06:54] <calc> you can always use a swapfile as well
[06:54] <eythian> add this line to /etc/fstab: /dev/sda1  /media/usbdisk  auto  rw,user,noauto  0  0
[06:54] <jim> cafuego_, why are three partitions needed?
[06:54] <mylastmorning> QUESTION: whats that program called to modify the gnome menu?
[06:54] <mylastmorning> !gnome
[06:54] <ubotu> it has been said that gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.
[06:54] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, then you can just 'mount /media/usbdisk' and it'll work.
[06:54] <mahangu_> mylastmorning, smeg
[06:54] <mahangu_> ubotu tell mylastmorning about smeg
[06:54] <jim> update-menus
[06:54] <mylastmorning> thx mahangu ^_^
[06:54] <jim> I guess :)
[06:54] <cafuego_> jim: it wants a data aprtition, but also a yaboot HFS bootstrap one.
[06:54] <dmlinux> hey guys, i cant hear any sound from Firefox's flashplayer
[06:55] <jim> oic
[06:55] <calc> jim: menu-xdg (which is what update-menus calls) just does the debian menu
[06:55] <cafuego_> jim: booting linux on macs is a bit voodoo ;-)
[06:55] <dmlinux> hey guys, i cant hear any sound from Firefox's flashplayer , does anyone else have this problem??
[06:55] <mahangu_> dmlinux, i don't DO flash :)
[06:55] <eythian> dmlinux, not me.
[06:56] <dmlinux> mahangu_, how do you play videos on the net then
[06:56] <cafuego_> Crazy_Man: And no, you don't need a partition for swap, you cna swap onto a file on / just fine.
[06:56] <mahangu_> dmlinux, flash videos?
[06:56] <Ryan_T> im worried about the installer, because i dont want it to delete my entire harddrive
[06:56] <mahangu_> eh, i download the stuff i need
[06:56] <cowbud> what is the easiest way to edit pdfs? or can I edit pdfs on my ubuntu?
[06:56] <jim> dmlinux: better to find out what problem you have and why you have it :) better chance of getting help or fixing it yourself
[06:56] <mahangu_> brb
[06:56] <mahangu_> gotta study a little
[06:56] <dmlinux> mahangu_, well videos on Cnet, i just installed flash, what else do i need to install?
[06:56] <graig> dmlinux: if you have problems with flash it might be because your soundcard doesn't support hardware mixing, and only mixing through ESD (a software mixer).   Flash can't use ESD.
[06:57] <mahangu_> dmlinux, i have no idea, havent used CNET videos
[06:57] <Ryan_T> do u have to do a clean install to create partitions with the installer?
[06:57] <LaschW> I'm looking for the ipt_TTL (Target) kernel patch of iptables. (not ipt_ttl which is the match module). But I can't find the patch, neither on iptables.org nor on netfilter.org.
[06:57] <dmlinux> graig, it works in windows XP just fine :P
[06:57] <jim> Ryan_T: no, you can arrange to either ignore existing partitions or else mount them without erasing them
[06:57] <Hendric> damn RPC... i don't have this problem before. i've reinstalled breezy 10x for 2 days.. and this happend for the first time. any help?
[06:58] <mylastmorning> hey mahangu_ how do you install the deb?
[06:58] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, oho is it posiible to delete the fstab file?by mistake?
[06:58] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, umm. Don't delete it.
[06:58] <calc> Shin_Gouki: you can delete anything on your system by mistake ;)
[06:58] <Shin_Gouki> shit
[06:58] <Shin_Gouki> ^^
[06:58] <nalioth_zZz> mylastmorning: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[06:58] <calc> including eg /dev/null  which happens to be very bad
[06:58] <jim> Ryan_T: also if you already have ubuntu/debian/whatever installed, you can create/add/format partitions and then mount them wherever you want
[06:58] <mylastmorning> I get errors with smeg.deb nalioth_zZz
[06:58] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, how , were do i RE get it?
[06:58] <jim> and you don't need the installer for that last part
[06:58] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, don't do anything, and you should be able to find some of the stuff in it in /etc/mtab
[06:58] <crimsun> LaschW: um, it's in patch-o-matic
[06:59] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: use the script on the site
[06:59] <nalioth_zZz> mylastmorning: use the installsmeg script from the home page if you're using hoary
[06:59] <Hendric> i got this "RPC not registered" error when mounting NFS drives... help me!!!
[06:59] <mylastmorning> how do you run the script nalioth_zZz?
[06:59] <calvin> Does anyone know how to install BIN files in ubuntu?
[06:59] <nalioth_zZz> mylastmorning: sh installsmeg
[06:59] <thoreauputic> Hendric: did you install nfs-kernel-server ?
[06:59] <seethru> calvin: as in a cd image?
[06:59] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, or I can past you my one and you can use that as a template to recreate your own
[06:59] <dmlinux> graig, it works in windows XP just fine :P
[07:00] <mylastmorning> hmm
[07:00] <mylastmorning> doesn't work
[07:00] <cafuego_> Hendric: Install portmap
[07:00] <Hendric> thoreauputic, yes... i've installed breezy 10x with NFS using synaptics and everythings fine.. this happened for the first time.
[07:00] <calvin> no, it's Realplayer for linux and it downloaded as a bin file
[07:00] <mylastmorning> nalioth, that script doesn't work.
[07:00] <nalioth_zZz> mylastmorning: chmod +x installsmeg && ./installsmeg
[07:00] <calvin> I'm not sure what type of a file that is
[07:00] <Hendric> cafuego, portmap is running... it installs with NFS on synaptcis
[07:00] <LaschW> crimsun: Hhhm, no tarball for download? To be honest I'm no friend of patch-o-matic... ;_)
[07:00] <tristanmike> calvin, there are instructions on the site
[07:00] <cafuego_> calvin: priprietary & rap. Try helixplayer.
[07:00] <dsfas> Anyone know how I can get raw php files off a server?
[07:00] <jim> Ryan_T: all I'm saying is you have a LOT of choices as to what you can do, both during install or after installing
[07:01] <seethru> dmlinux: flash uses software mixing in windows as well, search the howto forum on ubuntuforums.com, I know theres a tutorial there for flash sounds.
[07:01] <cafuego_> Hendric: On the server AND the clients.
[07:01] <Hendric> cafuego, on every unit...
[07:01] <cafuego_> Hendric: firewall?
[07:01] <dmlinux> seethru, will this work for videos on Cnet? or anywhere on the net for that matter
[07:01] <Severian> cafuego_, If you install Helix, is there a plugin to play real audio streams?
[07:01] <Hendric> Hendric, my other 5 pcs were mounted ok.. but this 1 i just installed last night got this error...
[07:01] <mylastmorning> how do I upgrade gnome nalioth_zZz I've got gnome-1.0
[07:01] <Ryan_T> Jim: So basicaly it will create a partition for its self to run on durring the instalation without erasing my harddrive?
[07:01] <mojo> did anyone update breezy today?
[07:02] <seethru> dmlinux: I don't know, I haven't done it as I have an Audigy 2 ZS, which is a hardware mixing soundcard
[07:02] <Crazy_Man> I did
[07:02] <cafuego_> Severian: No idea.
[07:02] <mojo> Does your graphical bootup still work?
[07:02] <Severian> mojo, early this morning.  Does that count.  No problems.
[07:02] <jim> if you have unpartitioned space
[07:02] <cafuego_> Mojo: mine does
[07:02] <Crazy_Man> I don't use a graphical bootup ;)
[07:02] <Crazy_Man> I don't even use gnome
[07:02] <Hendric> cafuego_, my other 5 pcs were mounted ok.. but this 1 i just installed last night got this error...
[07:02] <Ryan_T> Jim: Yes, i do not have and partitions
[07:02] <mojo> do you know where the options for that is?
[07:02] <Ryan_T> Jim: *any partitions
[07:03] <mylastmorning> how do I upgrade gnome I've got gnome-1.0?
[07:03] <jim> so you're using one volume on each entire drive
[07:03] <LaschW> crimsun: It would be good if there would be ipt_TTL deb's for linux-image(s) offered by Ubuntu: I can't beleve that I'm the only one who has a fussy inet provider who don't alow more than one computer per Line...
[07:03] <Crazy_Man> my ubuntu install = debian with ubuntu repositories for apt
[07:03] <jim> Crazy_Man: Crazy_Man :)
[07:03] <crimsun> LaschW: absolutely no go for Breezy. Perhaps Dapper.
[07:03] <Crazy_Man> jim:?
[07:03] <mojo> what is you graphical interface Crazy?
[07:03] <jim> see prev line...
[07:03] <Crazy_Man> I log into TTY
[07:04] <mylastmorning> how do I upgrade gnome I've got gnome-1.0?
[07:04] <LaschW> crimsun: Even not for multiverse?
[07:04] <Crazy_Man> then startxfce4 when I want to get into X
[07:04] <crimsun> LaschW: not even for multiverse.
[07:04] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: there's no way you have gnome-1.0 on ubuntu :)
[07:04] <Mustard5> ubotu: tell Mustard5 about ubotu
[07:04] <Hendric> can anyone help me??
[07:04] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, that would be nice plz do so
[07:04] <Crazy_Man> Hendric, what's up?
[07:04] <jim> Ryan_T: you might wish to put linux on a separate, new, blank drive
[07:05] <haslguitar> can someone help me with a compile error?
[07:05] <jim> that would be the easiest approach
[07:05] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: on Hoary it's 2.10 , on breezy 2.12
[07:05] <mylastmorning> thoreauputic,  I've got 2.10
[07:05] <Hendric> Crazy_Man, i got this RPC not registered when mounting NFS drives... my other units doesn't have this error.. only on this unit i just installed last night.
[07:05] <jim> haslguitar: trade ya for 1 guitar :)
[07:05] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: then you are on hoary
[07:05] <mylastmorning> thoreauputic,  how do I update it?
[07:05] <mojo> Is the 686 SMP kernel for my Pentium 4ghz w/ hyperthreading the best one for me?
[07:05] <mylastmorning> or can I?
[07:05] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: upgrade to breezy
[07:05] <graig> does sound support in hoary use ESD still?
[07:05] <graig> i mean breezy.
[07:05] <Crazy_Man> Hendric, sorry, I don't much about NFS drives....
[07:05] <mylastmorning> how do I do that thoreauputic?
[07:05] <graig> does breezy use ESD
[07:06] <ljlolel> anybody really good with gnumeric here?
[07:06] <Crazy_Man> try google
[07:06] <crimsun> mojo: HT is disabled by default.
[07:06] <thoreauputic> !tell mylastmorning about breezy
[07:06] <jim> any plans for ubuntu to use jack audio connection kit?
[07:06] <crimsun> graig: yes
[07:06] <Hendric> well ok..
[07:06] <LaschW> crimsun: Inofficial ones? *whisperingaprayer*
[07:06] <haslguitar> can someone help me with a compile error?
[07:06] <Crazy_Man> or the ubuntu forums
[07:06] <jim> haslguitar: trade ya for 1 guitar :)
[07:06] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: it's also in the channel /topic
[07:06] <calvin> how do I make a Bin file executable?
[07:06] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2809 -- that'll get you started I hope. Keep in mind that I probably have more junk than most desktop machines in there.
[07:06] <crimsun> LaschW: unofficial what?
[07:06] <mojo> HT is disabled in the SMP kernel?
[07:06] <Crazy_Man> haslguitar, what is it?
[07:06] <cafuego_> crimsun: Yes. Very rude.
[07:06] <darius___> how often do Universe packages get updated?  I've been fighting with an old version of gnucash for the last several months.
[07:06] <crimsun> mojo: absolutely
[07:06] <haslguitar> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ng0cCt49.html  go there and you can see my error
[07:06] <Severian> calvin   sudo chmod +x name.bin
[07:07] <mojo> :( does it say hgow to enable it in the forums?
[07:07] <mojo> *how
[07:07] <crimsun> cafuego_: I missed something...
[07:07] <eythian> Severian, you won't need sudo provided you own the file.
[07:07] <jim> haslguitar: so what are you writing/
[07:07] <jim> ?
[07:07] <LaschW> crimsun: Backports, inofficial repositories, (security fixes), ... ;-)
[07:07] <Severian> True, I was trying to be safe.
[07:07] <Crazy_Man> haslguitar, mind if I see your code?
[07:08] <haslguitar> jim, i'm not writing a program or anything... i'm jsut trying to compile winex, otherwise cedega... andi 'm getting an error
[07:08] <haslguitar> not at all. its not mine and its under gnu
[07:08] <Crazy_Man> oh ok
[07:08] <Crazy_Man> nevermind then
[07:08] <haslguitar> do you need that file?
[07:08] <haslguitar> oh ok
[07:08] <crimsun> LaschW: at this stage nothing is going to be applied to the kernel sources unless it's non-invasive regression fixes. No new features are going in. Multiverse wouldn't be the proper place for it anyhow; it's only concerned with licensing issues.
[07:08] <haslguitar> Crazy_Man, would you still like to see it?
[07:08] <jim> hmm, you're getting the silly bots too
[07:08] <crimsun> LaschW: there is nothing preventing you from applying it yourself, though.
[07:08] <LaschW> crimsun: OK, seems I have to have a closer look to patch-o-matic again...
[07:09] <Crazy_Man> haslguitar, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1877&forum=4&post_id=9221
[07:09] <cafuego_> haslguitar: Yeah, at that point in the compilation process it's normally afe to rm -rf the source tree and try again on the next version.
[07:09] <cafuego_> haslguitar: You COULD try an older gcc.
[07:09] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, plz some "last" bugging from me: if i remove the stick and RE stick it , what do i need to mount it?
[07:09] <LaschW> crimsun: BTW. 'it's only concerned with licensing issues', licensing issues of this particular module or in general
[07:09] <benplaut> where does gnome store themes?
[07:09] <jim> or maybe you untarred one version over another version before you tried to builsd
[07:09] <jim> ?
[07:09] <benplaut> err
[07:10] <benplaut> gdm themes
[07:10] <RaDiN> hello!
[07:10] <graig> you can put them in your home directory benplaut,  under user/.themes
[07:10] <jim> yello
[07:10] <RaDiN> :)
[07:10] <crimsun> LaschW: in general. For instance, if it were to be non-maintainable by the kernel crew, it'd be in universe.
[07:10] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, before you remove it: 'umount /media/usbstick', when you plug it in: 'mount /media/usbstick'
[07:10] <Shin_Gouki> i need an "rich" text editor
[07:10] <crimsun> LaschW: I presume the license is GPL...
[07:10] <graig> .themes   the dot means it's hidden, so you'll have to hit ctrl-h to unhide the files with dots infront of them.
[07:10] <zblach> hi
[07:10] <thoreauputic> benplaut: /usr/share/gdm/themes
[07:10] <zblach> how to update to latest java?
[07:10] <mahangu_> isnt the ftp command - send <filename> <path> ?
[07:11] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, thank u!
[07:11] <benplaut> thanks, thoreauputic
[07:11] <thoreauputic> !tell zblach about javadeb
[07:11] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, np
[07:11] <eythian> !javadeb
[07:11] <ubotu> javadeb is, like, totally, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[07:12] <thoreauputic> benplaut: for future reference - I just did   locate gdm | grep theme*
[07:12] <jim> doesn't anyone know what kernel version is installed and/or booted by hoary??
[07:12] <crimsun> 2.6.10-5-386 by default
[07:12] <zblach> nice link, but i need java to get bittorrent working
[07:12] <Hendric> eythian, can you help me with RPC not registered on NFS mounting?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> benplaut: locate is useful for this kind of thing
[07:12] <jim> crimsun, finally :)
[07:12] <graig> cool locate is neat, are there any other search things like that?
[07:12] <Mustard5> you can type uname -r to find your kernel version Jiim
[07:12] <crimsun> jim: packages.ubuntu.com tells you that.
[07:12] <Laforge> I have having touble connecting to VNC, i set up the server but i can't connect to the sever
[07:12] <mojo> does anyone know how to enable hyperthreading in the 686 SMP kernel?
[07:12] <jim> crimsun: would you know how I can get a copy of the config file?
[07:13] <cafuego_> graig: If you're working in X, and on Breezy, there is 'beagle'.
[07:13] <jim> or a url to the kernel image package
[07:13] <eythian> Hendric, oyu have portmap and nfs-common installed? You've restarted them both?
[07:13] <zblach> i've dl'd an rpm.bin file
[07:13] <crimsun> jim: grab a copy of it from linux-headers or from linux-image (/boot)
[07:13] <bimberi> Laforge: did you run "vncserver"?
[07:13] <jim> Mustard5: that would tell you 2.6.7 :)
[07:13] <Hendric> eythian, i installed them all... my other PCs are working fine.. but this one got that error...
[07:13] <Mustard5> ah k
[07:13] <crimsun> mojo: the changelog for linux-source-2.6.12 tells you
[07:13] <haslguitar> how can you force unmount a cdrom if it won't unmount -f?
[07:14] <Laforge> bimberi: i did tightvncserver
[07:14] <Hendric> d only difference of this PC is, i removed everything related to CUPS here.. since i don't print from here
[07:14] <eythian> Hendric, you don't have security on the server-side machines that's stopping you from getting to it? hosts.allow/hosts.deny and so on
[07:14] <thoreauputic> haslguitar: sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> anyone here feels firefox is really hogging the resources more than usual ??
[07:14] <Hendric> eythian, i tried hosts.allow still doesn't work
[07:14] <jim> crimsun: ok, will do... one moer thing :) which dhcp client (and version thereof) is used by the debian-installer used by ubuntu hoary?
[07:14] <LaschW> crabstic: Thank you very much for the hit to patch-o-matik. regards, Wolfgang
[07:14] <zblach> what am I looking to use to convert .bin to a more manageable form?
[07:15] <LaschW> crimsun: : Thank you very much for the hit to patch-o-matik. regards, Wolfgang
[07:15] <eythian> how about /etc/exports on the server. That can have IP restrictions. Also make sure that it's not in hosts.deny
[07:15] <crimsun> jim: look at packages.ubuntu.com/dhcp3-client
[07:15] <LaschW> crimsun: s/hit/hint/
[07:15] <thoreauputic> zblach:  .bin files you run, normally - not convert
[07:15] <crimsun> LaschW: np
[07:15] <bimberi> Laforge: k, it might be similar to vncserver, you have to run the command vncserver (in a terminal or by ssh if remote) to get a server process running
[07:15] <joe__> hello?
[07:16] <Mustard5> hi joe
[07:16] <jim> bello
[07:16] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: Better yet, create a Makefile that runs them when you type 'make install' and use 'checkinstall' on the sucker.
[07:16] <joe__> hi
[07:16] <psichron> lo joe
[07:16] <aztektum> is there a way to get system info, such as processor speed/type and all that in Ubuntu?
[07:16] <jim> mojo
[07:16] <joe__> can one of you show me how to install samba server by chance?
[07:16] <cafuego_> aztektum: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:16] <joe__> i'm pretty new at this
[07:16] <zblach> kk, thanks
[07:16] <cafuego_> aztektum: See also 'lspci' for additional hardware
[07:16] <eythian> cafuego, you could "checkinstall ./thebinfile.bin" too I think
[07:16] <Mustard5> !tell joe_ about samba
[07:17] <Mustard5> !tell joe_ _ about samba
[07:17] <joe__> pls! :)
[07:17] <Shin_Gouki> mr_roboto, is there a search function which finds the ssh entry out of all rc* files? or di i have to look mayself?
[07:17] <Laforge> bimberi i have it running, its just when i put in the right name it says it can't connect
[07:17] <eythian> !tell joe__ about samba
[07:17] <graig> !tell graig about samba
[07:17] <cafuego_> eythian: It can do that? neet :-)
[07:17] <LaschW> joe__: You will find HowTos on the samba.org site
[07:17] <eythian> hopefullt that one worked :)
[07:17] <Mustard5> thats it eythian  :D
[07:17] <zblach> thoreauputic, what about .rpms?
[07:17] <Mustard5> hehe
[07:17] <Mustard5> fumble fingers for me
[07:17] <joe__> thanks guys! i'll read up on it
[07:17] <eythian> cafuego, yeah, I used to use it all the time when I ran Mandrake a few years back
[07:17] <aztektum> w00t i got 987 bogomips!
[07:17] <thoreauputic> zblach: you avoid rpm if possible
[07:17] <wickedpuppy> zblach, you got to use alien to convert rpm to deb
[07:17] <aztektum> hehe
[07:18] <Hendric2> whew...
[07:18] <thoreauputic> zblach: or use the "alien" utility on them
[07:18] <Shin_Gouki> in my rc0.d is an entry i dont want to delete it just comment out, how do i do this?
[07:18] <Trashcan> anyone get totem playing their DVD?
[07:18] <bimberi> Laforge: do you need to append :1 (or something) to the name?
[07:18] <Trashcan> it just says 'could not read title information'
[07:18] <poptones> hello... does anyone know why the "floating point exception" seems to be back in mozilla-firefox?
[07:18] <AlienEye> is it safe to use samba to mount my home dirs? (since nfs isn't working on ubuntu)
[07:18] <Laforge> bimberi: yea i do, but still doesn't work
[07:18] <cafuego_> aztektum: less than 1000? Are you on a 486?
[07:18] <aztektum> It's a P3 500Mhz
[07:19] <aztektum> laptop
[07:19] <aztektum> I <3 free laptops
[07:19] <cafuego_> I suppose the P3/600 here gets 1179.64
[07:19] <eythian> AlienEye, I've had issues with using samba between linux machines. I use NFS instead (which is working fine for me with a ubuntu client and Debian Testing server)
[07:19] <Severian> AlienEye, define safe
[07:20] <LaschW> joe__: Pardon me for urge to a HowTo, but installing and configurating samba is not a trivial challenge. May be the webmin samba module will be helpfull
[07:20] <Shin_Gouki> hi! how do i make chacnges to my rc0.d in /etc? i want to remove the SSH entry
[07:20] <Severian> AlienEye, does that mean a Windows machine would be accessing you Linux home dir.  That does not seem safe.
[07:20] <aztektum> Although it doesn't compute that it's a P3 500. I didn't think they even made P3 500 chips.
[07:20] <aztektum> Although I didn't pay much attention back then.
[07:20] <aztektum> *shrug*
[07:20] <Severian> P3 chips go down to 450 MHz
[07:20] <bimberi> Laforge: have you tried connecting locally?
[07:20] <graig> !tell graig about nfs
[07:21] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, uninstall the ssh server?
[07:21] <shad0w1e> how do I find out what version of a given program, I am running?
[07:21] <aztektum> My only other question is, what's the best way to get Ubuntu to use a 128bit WEP key that's 24 characters.
[07:21] <Mustard5> using synaptic shad0w1e ?
[07:21] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, i just want to stop the auto start no auto install
[07:21] <shad0w1e> Mustard5, using dpkg
[07:21] <shad0w1e> well, the console
[07:21] <deFrysk> shad0w1e, prog --ver
[07:21] <cafuego_> aztektum: WEP keys are 5 or 13 characters. Not 24.
[07:21] <Trashcan> ubotu says i need something in hoary-extra, but I'm running breezy. Are there any problems running something from hoary in breezy?
[07:21] <ubotu> Trashcan: what are you talking about?
[07:21] <shad0w1e> ah nice
[07:21] <shad0w1e> wait
[07:21] <shad0w1e> what if its a library
[07:21] <pietro_spina> !tell pietro_spina about nfs
[07:22] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, i just want to stop the auto start , i do not want to uninstall it
[07:22] <Laforge> bimberi how would that be done?
[07:22] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, what i do in that case is chmod -x /etc/init.d/ssh
[07:22] <bimberi> shad0w1e: sometimes "<program> --version" in a terminal works
[07:22] <thoreauputic> shad0w1e:  apt-cache policy <package> is useful
[07:22] <aztektum> I meant 26 and my Linksys router would disagree that keys aren't longer than 13
[07:22] <eythian> Shin_Gouki, by making it not executable, the script won't get run
[07:23] <Shin_Gouki> eythian, thx
[07:23] <Shin_Gouki> :)
[07:23] <cafuego_> aztektum: That's nice for the router, but there you go :-)
[07:23] <bimberi> Laforge: Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client
[07:23] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki:  sudo update-rc.d <program> remove
[07:23] <Shin_Gouki> i did work very well thx guys!
[07:23] <Jedrick> how can i access to windows.. i mean mounting to windows
[07:23] <cafuego_> aztektum: 128bit keys are realy 104 bits.  13 chars * 8 bits = 104 bits.
[07:23] <LaschW> aztektum: You tried WPA?
[07:24] <cafuego_> aztektum: You may look op the WEP standard if you don't believe me.
[07:24] <bimberi> shad0w1e: if you know the package name for the library - dpkg -l <package>
[07:24] <aztektum> ah
[07:24] <Severian> Jedrick, do you want to mount a Windows share on the Ubuntu machine.  That is pretty easy.
[07:24] <Jedrick> yes
[07:24] <aztektum> No I haven't tried WPA. I am gonna switcht to it once I figure it out, I guess you could say.
[07:25] <aztektum> I didn't even know WPA existed until a few days ago
[07:25] <Laforge> bimberi i am connecting form a windows machine
[07:25] <aztektum> I'm not l33t :(
[07:25] <Severian> Jedrick, First, create an empty directy where you want it to be mounted.  Does that make sense to you?
[07:25] <cafuego_> aztektum: Just open the AP and run a decent VPN on it.
[07:25] <Jedrick> amm, i dont know how to create one, im new to linux :)
[07:26] <crimsun> aztektum: WPA is pretty straightforward with wpasupplicant.
[07:26] <Jedrick> mkdir /mnt/windows <-- like this?
[07:26] <eythian> Jedrick, an easier way to start with is jsut go to Places->Network Servers. The windows machines on the network should just show up.
[07:26] <aztektum> I installed wpasupplicant, I just haven't made the changes
[07:27] <bimberi> Laforge: yes, ok, but if you can try connecting from the ubuntu box to itself we can see whether it's a client or server problem
[07:27] <Severian> Jedrick, OK, I'll give you an example of what I do.  You may need to change it a bit.   I have a directory called /candi on my ubuntu box that is really a Windows share.  The first step was to create the empty directory.     sudo mkdir /candi
[07:27] <Jedrick> k
[07:27] <mahangu_> back, just sorted out my greek and roman notes
[07:28] <ksmurf> hello all.... how do I add a modprobe command to insert a module before powernowd starts on my laptop?
[07:29] <Laforge> bimberi, how do i find hostname and computer name?
[07:29] <Severian> Jedrick, then you issue a command like the following    sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.2.170/public  /candi -o username=guest,password=guest,uid=name,gid=group
[07:30] <ksmurf> hello?
[07:30] <aztektum> hi
[07:30] <carthik> Laforge, try typing hostname on a terminal
[07:30] <bimberi> Laforge: use localhost:1 (or :2 or whatever it said when you did the tightvncserver command), protocol VNC, others blank, click connect
[07:31] <Severian> Jedrick, I can go over the pieces of that command, or do you understand
[07:32] <johnnythunders> hi, can i play mp3's from my windows partition in ubuntu?  breezy 32 bit.
[07:32] <Severian> Jedrick, you also have to have the Ubuntu package installed that handles smbfs.  That is not installed by default, but it is in synaptic.
[07:32] <crimsun> johnnythunders: yes
[07:32] <johnnythunders> how?  not getting it done here.
[07:32] <zblach> will java -version always return 1.4.2?
[07:32] <jordan> bimberi: said connection refused
[07:33] <crimsun> johnnythunders: mount your vfat partition with the umask=022 option
[07:33] <eythian> zblach, only if you're running 1.4.2
[07:33] <johnnythunders> will try, thanks...
[07:33] <dmlinux> ok guys trying to put on custom fonts, and when i try to change the font it wont let me select the .PNG file i want to make the icon
[07:33] <bimberi> Laforge: does "ps x | grep tight" output anything (apart from "grep tight")
[07:34] <dmlinux> nm i got it
[07:34] <Severian> Jedrick, did I lose you?
[07:35] <jordan> bimberi: no
[07:35] <mahangu_> i do ftp <hostname>
[07:35] <mahangu_> and now im in, how do i send a file
[07:35] <eythian> mahangu_, 'put filename'
[07:36] <Severian> I have a question about this group.  On some IRC channels I have visited, it is bad form to start a private chat without asking in the public chat first.  Are there any rules about that here?
[07:36] <bimberi> jordan: what happens when you type "tightvncserver" in the terminal?
[07:36] <mahangu_> eythian, does cd , ls work in ftp?
[07:36] <eythian> mahangu_, yep
[07:36] <jordan> bimberi: something about missing xfonts
[07:36] <mahangu_> what's the command to delete?
[07:36] <bimberi> Severian: yes, same etiquette here
[07:37] <bimberi> jordan: ah ha! :)
[07:37] <jordan> bimberi: install?
[07:37] <limin> test
[07:38] <eythian> mahangu_, umm. 'rm' I think. Maybe del. It's a long time since I've used ftp.
[07:38] <mahangu_> can i use mv,cp?
[07:38] <bimberi> jordan: yes, unfortinately i don't know which one(s), the message might give you clues though - then look for a package name beginning with xfonts
[07:38] <johnnythunders> crimsum:  says motorheadaceofspades.mp3 is not an audiostream, i'm not sure the windows partition is vfat, i think it's ntfs
[07:38] <Severian> bimberi, thanks
[07:38] <eythian> mahangu_, I don't _think_ so, but I'm not sure.
[07:39] <eythian> mahangu_, try it and find out. Or type 'help'. You'll get a list of commands
[07:39] <johnnythunders> crimsun...i mean
[07:39] <jordan> bimberi: http://pastebin.com/384697
[07:40] <dmlinux> Does anyone know how to install Gib, i cant seem to get it to install
[07:40] <dmlinux> the instructions are vague and not for noobs such as myself
[07:41] <mahangu_> eythian, thanks
[07:41] <wickedpuppy> gib ?
[07:41] <dmlinux> anyone?
[07:41] <dmlinux> its an icon packer
[07:42] <dmlinux> i want to change all my linux icons over to Gant icons
[07:42] <Mustard5> what type of installer dmlinux ?
[07:43] <MadpilotPPC> what's Gant?
[07:43] <shiek> hello their any female here? male hr from philippines 22
[07:43] <wickedpuppy> lol
[07:43] <tristanmike> haha
[07:43] <shiek> yup
[07:43] <Mustard5> hehe shiek
[07:43] <AlphaFaction> can somone give me a hand with getting multimedia codecs going? ive installed all of the packages sugested in the wiki but the lipsyincy for all the films is way out
[07:43] <thoreauputic> shiek: this isn't a chat channel
[07:43] <shiek> hi
[07:43] <wickedpuppy> find . "female" -print
[07:43] <tristanmike> nor dating, but too bad, is there an #ubuntu-dating? :P
[07:43] <eythian> shiek, this is a Linux channel. You think there are going to be many females here?
[07:43] <wickedpuppy> try that
[07:43] <shiek> heloooooooooooooo is their any filipino here?
[07:44] <shiek> ah okkkkkk
[07:44] <dmlinux> mustard5, This is EXACTLY what it tells me to do::
[07:44] <dmlinux> Run "make". The contents will be placed in the build/ folder.
[07:44] <dmlinux> Use "mono gib.exe" to start the program.
[07:44] <dmlinux> NOTE: You have to descend into the directory where gib.exe is located and start the program from there. Hey, it's a development process, I'll get it fixed.
[07:44] <mahangu_> eythian, can i write bash that will open ftp, change dirs and put the file for me?
[07:44] <Mustard5> !female
[07:44] <ubotu> Mustard5: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:44] <dmlinux> Woops pasting sorry
[07:44] <shiek> where u from eythian
[07:44] <mahangu_> will bash be responsive *inside* ftp?
[07:44] <wickedpuppy> dmlinux, then type ... make ?
[07:44] <shiek> hellllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooo
[07:44] <eythian> mahangu_, it is possible, but it's not the easiest thing in the world.
[07:44] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy, i tried that
[07:44] <Severian> AlphaFaction, that is a common problem I see on Ubuntu systes after 5.04.
[07:44] <thoreauputic> shiek: please, not here
[07:44] <wickedpuppy> he is very determined ... i like that attitude
[07:44] <mahangu_> eythian, doesn't bash have a command i can use to ftp files?
[07:44] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy, says command notfound
[07:44] <MadpilotPPC> dmlinux, if it's an exe, why are you trying to run it in Linux?
[07:45] <ubuntu2> hi, fcuk~
[07:45] <AlphaFaction> Severian: any ideas?
[07:45] <dmlinux> madpilotppc its not a Exe
[07:45] <mahangu_> eythian, http://mahangu.org/ <-- to update this
[07:45] <wickedpuppy> dmlinux, you got to get build-esential then
[07:45] <wickedpuppy> !build-essential
[07:45] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, wickedpuppy
[07:45] <shiek> anyone from philippines ? pls pm me??????????/
[07:45] <wickedpuppy> eh
[07:45] <dmlinux> can i apt-get that?
[07:45] <wickedpuppy> !build-essentials
[07:45] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: Are you on ritalin?
[07:45] <wickedpuppy> eh yah
[07:45] <wickedpuppy> make is in synaptic
[07:45] <MadpilotPPC> !+info build-essentials
[07:45] <mahangu_> haha
[07:45] <ubotu> Package 'build-essentials' does not exist.
[07:45] <Severian> AlphaFaction, I use SuSE for the systems I want to play video files on.  That is probably not what you want to hear.
[07:45] <tristanmike> shiek, maybe you want to check #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:45] <eythian> mahangu_, I don't know. There are possibly commands to work it from the command line. Keep in mind that ftp is really insecure.
[07:46] <MadpilotPPC> !+info build-essential
[07:46] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[07:46] <AlphaFaction> Severian: fair enougth, just giving ubuntu a shot after funing dropline gnome for years, might just switch back and save my self the hassle
[07:47] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy, i cannot find make in synapstic
[07:47] <Severian> AlphaFaction, for virtually everything else, I like Ubuntu better.
[07:47] <wickedpuppy> dmlinux, get build-essential
[07:47] <AlphaFaction> Severian: but without movies its not much use to me at all.
[07:48] <desidaerius504> has anyone succedded in getting Ubuntu to run on a Turion 64 processor?
[07:48] <desidaerius504> suceeded*
[07:48] <Severian> AlphaFaction I will say that ogg theora videos seem to play fine on Ubuntu.
[07:48] <crimsun> johnnythunders: is it XP or another version?
[07:48] <johnnythunders> xp
[07:48] <AlphaFaction> Severian: so it seems but i have a few hnunderd films in divix and heeps of other formats
[07:49] <MaTaks> where can i download that file in ubuntu with the script auto mount on windows partition
[07:49] <crimsun> johnnythunders: fdisk -l will tell you
[07:49] <bimberi> jordan: i'm looking but not finding much of any use :/
[07:49] <crimsun> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[07:49] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy ok i have it and im trying to make/ then the file
[07:49] <glick> howdy
[07:49] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy, but it says no rule to make target
[07:50] <MaTaks> ok thnx
[07:50] <wickedpuppy> what you typed dmlinux  ?
[07:50] <Severian> Transcoding to ogg theora could be an interesting excercise.  I have seen a few reference that say the problem is in the audio system that Ubuntu uses and they just don't have it quite right.  At the speed this distro is progressing, I bet it will get fixed.
[07:50] <dmlinux> make /home/dm/desktop/gibe-0.2-src/makefile
[07:51] <wickedpuppy> i thought they asked you to just type make ?
[07:51] <dmlinux> dm@dmlinux:~$ make
[07:51] <dmlinux> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[07:51] <wickedpuppy> you are not in the source dir dmlinux
[07:51] <ksmurf> How would I add a module to start b4 powernowd?
[07:51] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy what?
[07:51] <wickedpuppy> you are not in the source directory dmlinux
[07:52] <wickedpuppy> you are at home
[07:52] <dmlinux> how do i get tehre
[07:52] <graig> breezy is done downloading :)
[07:52] <wickedpuppy> ... cd /desktop/gib-0.2-src
[07:52] <wickedpuppy> hmms
[07:52] <wickedpuppy> you are not that newbie are you dmlinux  ?
[07:52] <dmlinux> i am :(
[07:53] <king> nhi
[07:53] <wickedpuppy> i can understand make and all but how to move to another directory ?
[07:53] <mylastmorning> does anyone really recommend breezy?
[07:53] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: Ithink it would be Desktop as well (case sensitive etc)
[07:53] <wickedpuppy> eh yah
[07:53] <wickedpuppy> true true
[07:53] <bimberi> and no preceding /
[07:53] <wickedpuppy> i just followed him
[07:53] <mylastmorning> because my linux GURU said not to because its unstable.
[07:53] <Laforge> bimberi: i looked using synaptic and it looks like i have all xfonts install, would a restart work?
[07:53] <AlphaFaction> (15:53:09) mylastmorning: does anyone really recommend breezy?
[07:53] <wickedpuppy> mylastmorning, what is your linux guru using ?
[07:53] <ksmurf> How would I add a module to start b4 powernowd? is it update.rc?
[07:53] <graig> alpha, ill let you know. im trying it right now.
[07:53] <mylastmorning> he's using debian wickedpuppy.
[07:54] <wickedpuppy> lol
[07:54] <dmlinux> dm@dmlinux:~$ cd /desktop/gib-0.2-src
[07:54] <dmlinux> bash: cd: /desktop/gib-0.2-src: No such file or directory
[07:54] <bimberi> Laforge: you shouldn't have to, but in the absence of anything better to try...
[07:54] <johnnythunders> crimsun:  its ntfs
[07:54] <mahangu_> what is the history of .plan files?
[07:54] <wickedpuppy> dmlinux,
[07:54] <thoreauputic> dmlinux:  cd Desktop/gib-0.2-src
[07:54] <wickedpuppy> pls pm me
[07:54] <Laforge> bimberi: ok
[07:54] <wickedpuppy> or follow thoreauputic
[07:55] <wickedpuppy> my mistake
[07:55] <wickedpuppy> no /
[07:55] <wickedpuppy> and Desktop
[07:55] <dmlinux> cool, now it got an error when i type make
[07:55] <wickedpuppy> mylastmorning, get a live cd and try for yourself ..
[07:55] <dmlinux> /bin/sh: mcs: command not found
[07:55] <dmlinux> make: *** [gib.exe]  Error 127
[07:56] <AlphaFaction> so has anyone got working divix movies in breezy badger yet? if so what did you do?
[07:56] <wickedpuppy> i don't have mcs either ...
[07:56] <zblach> there's no java-1.5 package, is there?
[07:56] <ksmurf> or is it /etc/modules?
[07:56] <ksmurf> Alpha .... yes
[07:57] <thoreauputic> !tell zblach about javadeb
[07:57] <crimsun> ksmurf: create /etc/modprobe.d/powernowd. In it, put: install powernowd { modprobe someothermodule ; : ; }
[07:57] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy, i recieved an error 127
[07:57] <mylastmorning> wickedpuppy, what are you using?
[07:57] <wickedpuppy> eh i know
[07:57] <ksmurf> zblach search the forums for java
[07:57] <wickedpuppy> me ?
[07:57] <wickedpuppy> guess ?
[07:57] <wickedpuppy> lol
[07:57] <mylastmorning> breezy?
[07:57] <thoreauputic> zblach: those URLs have java 1.5 I believe (check your msg)
[07:57] <crimsun> johnnythunders: I presume you mounted it as NTFS then?
[07:57] <wickedpuppy> dmlinux, eh ah i don't have a prog named mcs either
[07:57] <wickedpuppy> mylastmorning, yes ... latest
[07:58] <crimsun> mcs is a mono package
[07:58] <mylastmorning> are you using ubuntu?
[07:58] <johnnythunders> yes
[07:58] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy, grrr so what im isupposed to do
[07:58] <bimberi> Laforge/jordan: are you running breezy?
[07:58] <mylastmorning> wickedpuppy are you using the ubuntu distro?
[07:58] <wickedpuppy> mylastmorning, yes ... if you wanna know more pls pm me instead pls
[07:58] <mylastmorning> ok.
[07:58] <wickedpuppy> here i help ...
[07:58] <crimsun> specifically, mcs is in the mono-mcs package
[07:59] <ksmurf> crimsun... I have that one installed and starting.... it's p4-clockmod that I need loaded b4 powernowd.... same applyies?
[07:59] <wickedpuppy> ah ... dmlinux guess you got to get mono as well
[07:59] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy getting it now :)
[07:59] <wickedpuppy> haaa
[07:59] <wickedpuppy> okie :P
[07:59] <zblach> thanks thoreauputic
[07:59] <crimsun> ksmurf: in /etc/modprobe.d/powernowd: install powernowd { modprobe p4-clockmod ; : ; }
[07:59] <thoreauputic> zblach: np :)
[08:00] <dmlinux> OMFG now i have an error 1
[08:00] <ksmurf> thanks ...
[08:00] <AlphaFaction> so am i right in thinking that getting divix movies working in Breezy is a problem?
[08:00] <bob2> AlphaFaction: no
[08:00] <crimsun> johnnythunders: did you pass umask=022 to mount?
[08:00] <bob2> AlphaFaction: it's trivial
[08:00] <johnnythunders> yes
[08:00] <crimsun> johnnythunders: or in /etc/fstab?
[08:00] <AlphaFaction> well i followed the guide and cant get it working
[08:00] <crimsun> johnnythunders: ok, and what does file say about the mp3 file?
[08:01] <AlphaFaction> the audio stream is at a difrent pace to the movie
[08:01] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy how do i run the exe it created?
[08:01] <AlphaFaction> bob2: what did you do to get it working?
[08:01] <calamari> hi
[08:01] <wickedpuppy> dmlinux, wine
[08:01] <wickedpuppy> !wine
[08:01] <dmlinux> oy
[08:02] <bob2> AlphaFaction: install mplayer. enjoy.
[08:02] <crimsun> johnnythunders: and does sound work in other applications?
[08:02] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy, apt-get wine ?
[08:02] <bob2> AlphaFaction: perhaps the movie is encoded badly.  try re-encodign from your source material again.
[08:02] <wickedpuppy> sudo apt-get install wine
[08:02] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy, i always forget the install :P
[08:02] <AlphaFaction> bob2: so it will only work with mplayer not totem? cause i hate mplayers interface with a passion
[08:03] <bob2> AlphaFaction: what interface?  you run it from a terminal and it pops up a window with the movie in it.
[08:03] <calamari> for windows there are websites with lists of processes and what they do (to stop uneeded things from running).  Is there such a list for ubuntu?  For example, gnome-keyring-daemon.  Theres no man page, and I don't know if I need to have it running..
[08:03] <wickedpuppy> dmlinux, :P
[08:03] <thoreauputic> !tell AlphaFaction about restricted
[08:03] <bob2> calamari: just leave it
[08:03] <calamari> bob2: right, but is there a list?
[08:04] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy do i have to restart X to run wine?
[08:04] <wickedpuppy> dmlinux, nope
[08:04] <bob2> calamari: nope
[08:04] <bob2> not a useful one, anyway
[08:04] <dmlinux> wickedpuppy Couldn't display "/home/dm/Desktop/gib-0.2-src/build/gib.exe"
[08:04] <AlphaFaction> thoreauputic: ihave read that and follwed the guide step by step
[08:04] <wickedpuppy> eh ah
[08:04] <Severian> thoreauputic.  He knows how to install the software.  He must, because he can play the videos.  The problem is that audio and video lose sync.
[08:04] <calamari> bob2: it's nice to know what I might not absolutely need, because sometimes my hdd light goes on solid and my system locks for stretches of 10-15 secs.. really getting annoying
[08:04] <bob2> calamari: surely google tels you what each is?
[08:04] <bob2> calamari: then find out what is doing that
[08:04] <wickedpuppy> now i am not sure anymore dmlinux i never use gib before
[08:04] <wickedpuppy> sorry
[08:05] <wickedpuppy> you gotta ask someone who has
[08:05] <calamari> bob2: I'd like to.. I figured knowing that was running and why would be a good start :)
[08:05] <thoreauputic> AlphaFaction: ah OK - sorry
[08:05] <dmlinux> restarting X see if that works
[08:05] <MaTaKs> How to play video file on totem movie player?
[08:05] <wickedpuppy> MaTaKs, go to file ... open
[08:05] <bob2> AlphaFaction: don't even need windows dlls, it seems
[08:05] <calamari> MaTaKs: the easiest way to play movies on totem is to uninstall it and install mplayer
[08:06] <eythian> calamari, dpkg -S `which gnome-keyring-daemon` tells you the package it's from
[08:06] <crimsun> johnnythunders: heading out, back in 25 minutes.
[08:06] <calamari> eythian: thanks!
[08:06] <MaTaKs> ok how to uninstall totem? im new to linux
[08:06] <bob2> MaTaKs: just leave it
[08:06] <calamari> MaTaKs: you don't really need to
[08:06] <Severian> AlphaFaction, how fast is the computer you are using for the videos?
[08:06] <wickedpuppy> MaTaKs, you can uninstall from synaptic if you wish
[08:06] <calamari> MaTaKs: but I would recommend mplayer, it's much better
[08:07] <MaTaKs> ok., can i find mplayer in synaptec?
[08:07] <wickedpuppy> MaTaKs, yes
[08:07] <bob2> MaTaKs: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:07] <MaTaKs> ok wait ill go install
[08:07] <calamari> yes, are you using an intel processor?
[08:07] <AlphaFaction> Severian: dual 2400+ gig of ram
[08:07] <calamari> (or has that ubuntu bug been fixed?)
[08:08] <thoreauputic> MaTaKs: you need to enable extra repositories - see the URL bob2 posted
[08:08] <woodwizzle> anyone know how to turn inotify on in breezy?
[08:08] <Severian> AlphaFaction, that is plenty.  I know the problem is worse on machines under 800 or so MHz.
[08:08] <eythian> Hmm, I play videos at 700Mhz no trouble all the time
[08:08] <MaTaKs> im done with the repositories
[08:08] <AlphaFaction> Severian: yeah it worked fine before in dropline
[08:09] <thoreauputic> MaTaKs: ah OK - well mplayer is in multiverse
[08:09] <oea> hi
[08:09] <Laforge> bimberi: sorry was afk, yes
[08:09] <oea> anyone else using breezy 5.10 ?
[08:09] <HiddenFly> whenever i try to run cvscedega, i get following error: wine: exists lstat socket : No such file or directory, whow can i fix that?
[08:09] <woodwizzle> oea: i am
[08:09] <MaTaKs> ey there are 7 mplayer, the mplayer-386, mplayer -583 and so on
[08:09] <oea> woodwizzle,
[08:09] <MaTaKs> which one?
[08:09] <oea> did you have any problem with synaptic?
[08:09] <bob2> oea: best to just ask your question
[08:09] <oea> It keeps spitting out errors at me
[08:09] <calamari> mataks: once you install mplayer, run gmplayer.. you'll get a gui to work with
[08:09] <Severian> It worked fine for me on a 700 MHz machine in Ubuntu 5.04.  And current SuSE does fine, too.
[08:09] <woodwizzle> oea: not yet =)
[08:10] <bob2> HiddenFly: #cedega
[08:10] <oea> hmm
[08:10] <bimberi> Laforge: have you updated recently?
[08:10] <HiddenFly> k
[08:10] <eythian> MaTaKs, the one that matches your computer...
[08:10] <bob2> oea: then paste them to #flood
[08:10] <thoreauputic> MaTaKs: type " uname -m" to see your processor type
[08:10] <carthik> MaTaKs, the one corresponding to the installed kernel version on your computer
[08:10] <MaTaKs> ok
[08:10] <MaTaKs> ok mine is 1686
[08:10] <MaTaKs> ok mine is i686
[08:10] <eythian> MaTaKs, don't use uname -m. It says i686 even when it's not.
[08:10] <MaTaKs> oh
[08:11] <eythian> MaTaKs, (eg mine is k6, but that says i686)
[08:11] <oea> errors pasted in #flood
[08:11] <MaTaKs> ok then how to check mine?
[08:11] <thoreauputic> eythian: erm - well i686 works on that anyway
[08:11] <oea> i had the problem with the default sources.list as well, just uncommented some things
[08:11] <eythian> have a look in /proc/cpuinfo
[08:11] <oea> tried hoary reposities but still didn't work
[08:11] <calamari> MaTaKs: uname -r
[08:11] <MaTaKs> ok
[08:11] <eythian> thoreauputic, yeah, but the optimisations are different
[08:11] <aztektum> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:11] <Severian> MaTaKs, yeah, do a uname -a and see which kernel you have.  That is the issue.
[08:12] <MaTaKs> 2.6.10-5-386
[08:12] <MaTaKs>  here
[08:12] <Laforge> bimberi: just did, this is a new install today, everything is updated
[08:13] <calamari> matak: ok, you should be able to use the 386 version of mplayer
[08:13] <Severian> MaTaKs, first, I would recommend you install the linux-686 package in synaptic.  Then reboot and install the 686 version of mplayer.
[08:13] <Elisa> one question is it possible to run ubuntu under wmware workstation 5.0 i cant find my pratition whe i try to install it in wmware
[08:13] <calamari> yeah, then it'd be faster :)
[08:13] <MaTaKs> ok
[08:13] <eythian> I don't think mplayer version is dependant on kernel version
[08:13] <eythian> (course, it doesn't hurt to update that too)
[08:14] <Rev-Marc> to use "apt-get" I read that I had to edit the sources file but text editor won't edit it how do I do this?
[08:14] <MaTaKs> ok im installing it now
[08:14] <MaTaKs> after this ill reboot?
[08:14] <MaTaKs> and install mplayer?
[08:14] <Severian> VMWare told me it works pretty well, but it is not officially supported.  They are looking at it to decide about future support.
[08:14] <thoreauputic> it realy isn't going to make a dramatic difference
[08:15] <Rev-Marc> to use "apt-get" I read that I had to edit the sources file but text editor won't edit it how do I do this?
[08:15] <bob2> that's incorrect
[08:15] <bimberi> Laforge: you need to check that the fontpath entries in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf are correct.  They might still point to /usr/lib/X11/fonts but (as i understand it) on Breezy that has changed to /usr/share/fonts.  Make sure you back up your xorg.conf first
[08:15] <thoreauputic> Rev-Marc:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:16] <bob2> Rev-Marc: apt-get is configured to work fine out of the box
[08:16] <Elisa> ok thanks Severian like i sad i cant find my wmware hd someone else that have tryed and sucessed ?
[08:16] <oea> can I install kubuntu on breezy
[08:16] <oea> without downloading a new image
[08:16] <bob2> Rev-Marc: if you want to change the configuration, yes, you need to edit that; sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:16] <bob2> oea: install kubuntu-desktop, then #kubuntu
[08:16] <malv> breezy install went off without a hitch
[08:16] <Severian> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:16] <malv> most excellent
[08:17] <Rev-Marc> thank you greatly, I also would like to turn off this touchpad any suggestions?
[08:17] <Laforge> bimberi i need to sleep and will try tomorrow
[08:17] <bimberi> Laforge: as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62596
[08:17] <bimberi> Laforge: ok, good luck :)
[08:17] <Severian> Rev-Marc.  Go into the bios?  Buy a ThinkPad?
[08:17] <calamari> I wonder if I could pull an xp, where it loads a minimal amount of stuff to get to the gui, then keeps loading stuff in the background.  Is that possible?
[08:18] <Laforge> bimberi, bookmarked page, thanks for all your help
[08:18] <bob2> calamari: of course
[08:18] <bimberi> Laforge: yw :)
[08:18] <bob2> calamari: going further in that direction than people already have is no trivial, of course
[08:18] <ilba7r> any one know if thinkpad T43 is supported by ubuntu i am worried about the video card ati x300
[08:18] <mahangu> what's the easisest way to rip dvds to divx?
[08:19] <Severian> The T21 is good, but I have not tried newer than that.
[08:19] <calamari> bob2: is Ubuntu already at the edge where it becomes difficult to go further?
[08:19] <bob2> ilba7r: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/
[08:19] <bob2> calamari: no
[08:19] <ilba7r> thanx bob2 and severian
[08:19] <bob2> calamari: but any change of that sort requires knowing what you're doing
[08:20] <calamari> bob2: yeah.  I'd like to learn about how Ubuntu boots anyways, so it'd be a good thing
[08:20] <propagandhi> i cant see the logic in trying to change the boot process to be more like XP anyway
[08:20] <abcdefg> puppy, I messed my pc up because of breezy
[08:20] <Severian> mahangu,  dvd::rip, or dvddecrypter and autogk
[08:20] <bob2> calamari: http://www.gnome.org/~lcolitti/gnome-startup/analysis/
[08:20] <mahangu> ilba7r, im on a t42
[08:20] <aztektum> ilba check out ati's website to see if the linux driver works with that card yet
[08:20] <mahangu> everything works fine
[08:21] <aztektum> or just take mahangu's word for it
[08:21] <calamari> propagandhi: perhaps this is poor logic.. but if I can strip things down to bare necessities and still get a gui, that means if I want to run lean, I can more easily do so.. could have some kind of startup task selector to turn things on/off
[08:22] <Hobbsee> are the breezy backports supposed to be used yet?
[08:22] <mahangu> ilba7r, if both use the same vcard, i think it's good
[08:22] <calamari> bob2: thanks :)
[08:22] <Severian> mahangu, but tell him if you had to do anything special to get the video drivers installed.
[08:22] <ilba7r> thanx mahangu i will check the vcard for t42 then
[08:22] <bob2> Hobbsee: no
[08:22] <bob2> (or ever)
[08:22] <deFrysk> Hobbsee, whats to backport in breezy ?
[08:22] <bob2> Hobbsee: what would they contain?
[08:22] <mahangu> ilba7r, nothing special, it seamlessly found everything, including wifi adapater
[08:22] <Hobbsee> bob2: so the backports are supposed to be changed, as they were in hoary?
[08:23] <Hobbsee> good point, but it's past feature freeze i thought
[08:23] <Severian> deFrysk, how about Heroine Warrior?
[08:23] <deFrysk> hehhe Severian
[08:23] <bob2> Hobbsee: all the backports people do is rebuild packages from release N on release N-1
[08:23] <bob2> Hobbsee: there is no release N yet, for breezy, so there's nothing for them to crib
[08:24] <ilba7r> mahangu no its a different vedio card
[08:24] <Hobbsee> bob2: cool, ok
[08:24] <Hobbsee> bob2: what about when breezy is officially released?
[08:24] <mahangu> ilba7r, i generally think it should be ok, check with live cd first
[08:24] <mahangu> Hobbsee, october 13th
[08:24] <graig> k, i installed breezy, actually got a desktop this time, my tablet is not working.
[08:24] <graig> is tablet support built into the kernel still?
[08:24] <woodwizzle> anyone know if inotify works in breezy
[08:24] <woodwizzle> or how to turn it on
[08:24] <bob2> Hobbsee: then presumably they'll start dpong it
[08:24] <Hobbsee> I meant, will the backports be used when it is released?
[08:25] <Hobbsee> ok
[08:25] <Hobbsee> thanks :)
[08:25] <bob2> woodwizzle: grep -i notify /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[08:25] <woodwizzle> bob2: that returns: CONFIG_INOTIFY=y
[08:25] <woodwizzle> CONFIG_DNOTIFY=y
[08:25] <Severian> woodwizzle, does breezy support beagle?  If it does, then inotify is probably there.  Otherwise, probably not.
[08:26] <bob2> woodwizzle: there you go
[08:26] <woodwizzle> Severian, yes it does, but it does not have livequeries working
[08:27] <ilba7r> will do thanx mahangu
[08:27] <woodwizzle> how can I tell what version of inotify is running
[08:27] <woodwizzle> if its .22 or lower I don't think its compatible with the latest beagle
[08:28] <bob2> woodwizzle: /usr/share/doc/linux-image-$(uname -r)/
[08:28] <woodwizzle> bob2, that doesn't tell me what version of the inotify patch is in that kernel
[08:29] <bob2> woodwizzle: sure it does
[08:29] <bob2>   * Update inotify from 2.6.13-rc3-git8:
[08:29] <graig> is there a package you have to install after you upgrade to breezy?
[08:29] <graig> something about language?
[08:29] <woodwizzle> well mine says:image-2.6.12-9-386/: is a directory
[08:30] <pinko> I'm being asked for a kernel-image-2.6.10-5-386 when ll that seems to exist in the repository is a linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[08:30] <bob2> woodwizzle: indeed
[08:30] <bob2> woodwizzle: it was a subtle hint for you to read the changelog
[08:30] <pinko> *when all
[08:30] <propagandhi> does anyone know of a way to play ASX streams under linux
[08:30] <bob2> graig: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[08:30] <bob2> propagandhi: mplayer
[08:30] <propagandhi> ok sweet
[08:31] <MaTaKs> help i have error when turning on my pc " error: faild to initialize HAL! " why is that?
[08:31] <bob2> could be lots of reasons
[08:31] <bob2> you need to start by telling us what you did to it
[08:32] <MaTaKs> nothing
[08:32] <Omnica> someone help :(
[08:32] <Omnica> havin probiems after installation
[08:32] <Omnica> anyone lickin around?
[08:32] <bob2> you need to ask a question first, obviously
[08:32] <Omnica> kickin
[08:32] <Omnica> heh
[08:32] <aztektum> hah
[08:33] <Omnica> well, I installed it on this machine
[08:33] <Omnica> laptop
[08:33] <Omnica> dual boot
[08:33] <Omnica> and it seemed to install fine
[08:33] <Omnica> then it needs to reboot
[08:33] <Omnica> and it wouldnt install the package
[08:33] <Omnica> froze at 4 percent
[08:33] <thoreauputic> Omnica: please stop hitting enter all the time...
[08:33] <bob2> so
[08:33] <bob2> a) complete sentences on single lines would be nice, b) what is "the package"?
[08:33] <Omnica> now it will get into the text based part ... but I dont know how to install a package
[08:34] <Severian> Omnica, it sounds like your filesystem did not get created right or large enough and you ran out of room.
[08:34] <bob2> or the CD was corrupt
[08:34] <woodwizzle> hmm, appears to be a compatible version. Still dunno why live queries arn't working then
[08:35] <Omnica> I do not believe there are any packages on there, I want some sort of desktop envrioment, so my question is, how can I insall packages on this text based enviroment
[08:35] <Omnica> Disc space was fine, cd should have been fine....
[08:35] <Chousuke> sudo aptitiude
[08:35] <Chousuke> aptitude*
[08:35] <bob2> Omnica: first, see if the CD is ok to begin with
[08:35] <jaydeguia> is there a built in cd burner software in ubuntu?
[08:35] <bob2> jaydeguia: yes, the file manager
[08:35] <Omnica> ok bob2 how may I go about doing that?
[08:35] <woodwizzle> also, the dameon doesn't start automatically
[08:36] <Severian> Omnica, you say the space is fine.  But, is it really.  How large did you make the different filesystems?
[08:36] <bob2> Omnica: boot the cd into expert mode, select "verify cd"
[08:36] <MaTaKs> how to setup speedtouch to auto connect on boot
[08:36] <zblach> thoreauputic, i finished downloading the .deb file, but i'm getting something about an error on line 1 !<arch>
[08:36] <Omnica> I did the auto allocate thing - it had 40 gigs to play with
[08:36] <Severian> jaydeguia,  I use k3b.  It is great.
[08:36] <thoreauputic> zblach: did you get the right deb for your machine?
[08:36] <zblach> yup
[08:37] <Omnica> bob2, so for where it says type server, I'll type "verefy cd" instead
[08:37] <jaydeguia> where can i get k3b? thanks.
[08:37] <Omnica> on bt
[08:37] <Omnica> boot
[08:37] <bob2> Omnica: no, not at all
[08:37] <bob2> Omnica: you'll type "expert" or read the help screens it provides
[08:37] <bob2> jaydeguia: why?
[08:37] <Omnica> okay
[08:37] <Severian> jaydeguia,  Just install it from synaptic, like most programs.
[08:37] <Omnica> I will try that
[08:37] <bob2> jaydeguia: also, /msg ubotu repositories
[08:37] <Omnica> if not I'll be back, thank you for your help, have a good night
[08:37] <deFrysk> i just got up
[08:37] <deFrysk> :s
[08:38] <jaydeguia> can ubuntu workstation act as a server?
[08:38] <thoreauputic> jaydeguia: if you install sever stuff, yes
[08:38] <thoreauputic> *server
[08:39] <Severian> Sure, I have one Ubuntu server that has been up solid more than 6 months.
[08:39] <bob2> a server is just a computer running network services
[08:39] <jaydeguia> what server applications have been tested?
[08:39] <bob2> what do you mean by "tested"?
[08:39] <Severian> jaydeguia,  lots of them.  What do you need?
[08:39] <MadpilotPPC> jaydeguia, do you mean Apache/PHP/MySQL, and that sort of thing?
[08:40] <jaydeguia> tested - meaning installed and found to be functioning well
[08:40] <CaiN_SA> !usplash
[08:40] <ubotu> usplash is, like, in Breezy: sudo apt-get install usplash, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[08:40] <jaydeguia> MadpilotPPC - yes
[08:40] <Severian> jaydeguia,  samba, apache, postgresql, mysql, ond more.  What do you need?
[08:40] <bob2> jaydeguia: everything in ubuntu more or less works
[08:40] <bob2> jaydeguia: if you want a mroe specific answer, you need to ask a mroe specific question
[08:41] <jaydeguia> Severian - apache, mysql and php
[08:41] <Severian> jaydeguia,  those are all good and solid.
[08:41] <bob2> all are supported, yes
[08:41] <bob2> that's not true
[08:41] <thoreauputic> zblach: I didn't see your reply until now, because you didn't use my nick: how did you try to install the .deb?
[08:41] <bob2> php is historically very flakey
[08:41] <zblach> sudo ./<name>.deb
[08:42] <MadpilotPPC> !+apache
[08:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[08:42] <bob2> zblach: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[08:42] <thoreauputic> zblach: erm - sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[08:42] <Severian> But, when you say tested, I have a little qualm.  Are you talking a million hits per day or a few thousand or what?
[08:42] <Bateau_> how do i uninstall things i`v apt-get`ed?
[08:42] <bob2> Bateau_: sudo apt-get remove blah
[08:42] <bob2> Bateau_: in future, it's simpler to use aptitude, tho
[08:42] <graig> hey, when i boot i get some usb errors, is this a bug?or normal?
[08:42] <zblach> thoreauputic, bob2, thanks
[08:43] <Bateau_> bob2: aptitude?
[08:43] <graig> usb errors, in breezy
[08:43] <Severian> bob2, do you use aptitude instead of synaptic?  If so, what do you like better?
[08:43] <bob2> Severian: the fact it's not X-based, keeps track of dependencies and mostly works like apt-get
[08:43] <bob2> Bateau_: indeed. apt-cache show aptitude.
[08:44] <graig> when i log in breezy complains that i dont have permissions for the .dmrc file in my home folder, but i do have permissions.  is this a bug? or something thats not configured correctly?
[08:44] <bob2> graig: what did you do to get that error?
[08:44] <zblach> thoreauputic, should this file change what it says when i 'java -version'?
[08:45] <thoreauputic> zblach: assuming you have installed a new version...
[08:45] <zblach> 1.4.2 < 1.5.04
[08:46] <erick> Guys Im erick from philippines, This is my first time to install and used this great and easy to used distro,ubuntu
[08:46] <zblach> erick, welcome
[08:46] <thoreauputic> zblach: so which are you seeing? 1.5.04 ?
[08:46] <erick> can I request help from you guys
[08:46] <zblach> thoreauputic, i'm still seeing 1.4.2
[08:46] <zblach> erick, go right ahead
[08:46] <Severian> Sure, you can always request iut.  Who could stop that?
[08:46] <thoreauputic> zblach: did you install Balckdown? Is this breezy?
[08:47] <thoreauputic> *Blackdown
[08:47] <zblach> it is breezy. Blackdown? i'm not sure
[08:47] <erick> can I recompile the kernel of ubuntu? if yes how?
[08:48] <thoreauputic> erick: why do you want to?
[08:48] <lll> #gensan
[08:48] <graig> in breezy, where is the ubuntu gnome logo stored?
[08:48] <erick> just want to uninstall unnecessary services so that it will fit or maximize my low end machine
[08:49] <thoreauputic> zblach: I don't know why you are seeing that - I would check to see what java packages you have installed and remove the older one I guess
[08:49] <carthik> erick: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20kernel%20compile%20howto
[08:49] <graig> OMG the screensaver user switching is cool!!
[08:49] <thoreauputic> zblach: presumably the ilder one has a different name
[08:49] <thoreauputic> *older
[08:49] <zblach> thoreauputic, can do. I do have the java-packages installed
[08:50] <erick> k carthik I'll check it
[08:50] <kerlnel20> hi
[08:50] <kerlnel20> anybody awake?
[08:50] <deFrysk> just
[08:50] <jim> youare
[08:50] <kerlnel20> is is auto detect in ubuntu those flash USB memory?
[08:50] <Bateau_> is it any point to upgrade to breezy yet?
[08:50] <Severian> kerlnel20, not for long
[08:51] <deFrysk> Bateau_, many have so there must be a point
[08:51] <erick> does anyone used ubuntu as thier workstation that can interact with windows?
[08:51] <kerlnel20> ?
[08:51] <kerlnel20> erick: samba
[08:51] <wickedpuppy> kerlnel20, my flash disk is always detected automatically
[08:52] <Severian> Bateau_, sure, For grins, for testing, or for newer version of some program important to you.  Evolution 2.4, maybe.
[08:52] <kerlnel20> so when u plug it to ur USB port just like windows XP it can detect automatically?
[08:52] <wickedpuppy> yes
[08:52] <graig> hmm, i cant change the gnome icon with any of the themes :(
[08:52] <jim> erick: you mean like installing cygwin on the win box and usng the win box as a x term?
[08:52] <kerlnel20> ?
[08:52] <Bateau_> Severian: oki, but is it stable? :x
[08:52] <Severian> kerlnel20, no, not like XP.  In Ubuntu things actually work well.
[08:52] <kerlnel20> guys u am downloading the 5.10 version is stable already?
[08:52] <graig> where is the default gnome breezy icon theme stored?
[08:52] <erick> yeah I know kerlnel but compare with redhat that I used for how many years its different in terms of managing ang restarting the services
[08:52] <bob2> kerlnel20: no
[08:52] <wickedpuppy> kerlnel20, its always detected , why you got problem ?
[08:52] <wickedpuppy> kerlnel20, i am using 5.10
[08:53] <bob2> erick: no it's not
[08:53] <kerlnel20> bob2?
[08:53] <zblach> thoreauputic, i've managed to change my java version from 1.4.2 to 1.4.2-02 by installing Blackdown and the update package from earlier
[08:53] <sambagirl> is there spyware problems with ubuntu or this is just microsoft issue?
[08:53] <kerlnel20> erick: so di i am learning ubuntu for my server set up in the future
[08:53] <kerlnel20> guys u am downloading the 5.10 version is stable already?
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> sambagirl, spyware? what is it ?
[08:53] <deFrysk> sambagirl, just M$ issue
[08:53] <sambagirl> wow amazing
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> kerlnel20, yes it is stable i am using it right now
[08:54] <sambagirl> i'm glad :)
[08:54] <thoreauputic> zblach: I have no idea what you are doing - I thought you installed the 1.5 version?
[08:54] <jim> sambagirl: no, the spyware just won'
[08:54] <jim> t run
[08:54] <zblach> thoreauputic, me too
[08:54] <kerlnel20> wickedpuppy: does kernel source included?
[08:54] <mahangu> sambagirl, spyware linux is la nice oxymoron
[08:54] <wickedpuppy> kerlnel20, you can always download kernel source ...
[08:54] <erick> I already edit my /etc/samba/smb.conf using vi and after you edit that config you will restart the service of samba by issuing this command /sbin/service smb restart? how can i restart the services in ubuntu
[08:54] <Severian> sambagirl, spyware is almost exclusively a Microsoft OS problem.  But, it could occur in any Linux if you are careless and someone writes one.
[08:54] <jim> nor will viruses, nor will those nasty email senders
[08:54] <kerlnel20> wickedpuppy: where?
[08:54] <wickedpuppy> kernel.org ?
[08:54] <mahangu> Severian, it would probably be found and fixe
[08:54] <kerlnel20> no
[08:54] <kerlnel20> not that
[08:54] <sambagirl> maybe microsoft write one
[08:54] <wickedpuppy> then ??
[08:54] <kerlnel20> damnit
[08:54] <ack> hi guys question?  can you resize your partition in ubuntu?
[08:55] <mahangu> sambagirl, ms dont write spyware (generally), it's just that windows is insecure
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> you don't want that kernel then which kernel you want ??
[08:55] <sambagirl> is that sirilanka man?
[08:55] <kerlnel20> say kernel-2.6.12 is installed
[08:55] <graig> when you download a file with firefox, doesn't it default its permission to not being runnable?
[08:55] <kerlnel20> i want to recompile the kernel
[08:55] <jim> sambagirl: the truth is I woultdn't put it past them :P
[08:55] <crimsun> kerlnel20: no, linux-source-2.6.12 is not distributed on the CD.
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> can
[08:55] <sambagirl> haha microsoft cia pentagon nsa interpol is all the same bush.
[08:55] <Severian> mahangu, perhaps.  viruses would be.  But spyware is a little different.  It is often consciencely, but carelessly installed.
[08:55] <deFrysk> graig, no
[08:55] <kerlnel20> crimsun: so how can i get the linux-sourse?
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> get kernel-source for version 2.6.12 from kernel.org
[08:56] <kerlnel20> crimsun: so how can i get the linux-source?
[08:56] <sambagirl> nite
[08:56] <kerlnel20> no not that
[08:56] <crimsun> kerlnel20: you need to: sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r) && apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[08:56] <kerlnel20> WHAT IS sudu?
[08:56] <crimsun> kerlnel20: add dpatches to debian/patches/
[08:56] <jim> georgia :)
[08:56] <thoreauputic> !sudo
[08:56] <ubotu> well, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:57] <crimsun> kerlnel20: if you want pre-patched source, install linux-tree-2.6.12 instead
[08:57] <kerlnel20> debian patches?
[08:57] <kerlnel20> where?
[08:57] <mahangu> where can i get mplayer?
[08:57] <zblach> kerlnel20, sudo - Super User DO, also a twist on the word 'Pseudo'
[08:57] <mahangu> what repo?
[08:57] <mahangu> !mplayer
[08:57] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:57] <crimsun> debian/patches/ is a subdirectory of the extracted source, kerlnel20.
[08:57] <ack> hi guys can you resize your partition in ubuntu? I have a drive
[08:57] <kerlnel20> crimsun: what if i am not online
[08:58] <crimsun> kerlnel20: then you're not online, and you'll need to grab the source when you are online.
[08:58] <thoreauputic> ack: install gparted or qtparted
[08:58] <erick> how to restart the services in ubuntu?
[08:58] <kerlnel20> for some reason say i am miles awake and i want to recompile the kernel without internet connection
[08:58] <jim> kerlnel20: then you probably won't get spam :)
[08:58] <zblach> erick, which services?
[08:58] <kerlnel20> jim: spam is not an issue to me
[08:58] <crimsun> kerlnel20: otherwise, find another avenue for transferring the patched source to your installation.
[08:58] <erick> smb? network cups
[08:58] <jim> kerlnel20: -miles- awake?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> erick: usually sudo /etc/init.d/<nameofservice> restart
[08:58] <crimsun> he typoed away
[08:59] <kerlnel20> for some reason say i am miles away and i want to recompile the kernel without internet connection
[08:59] <erick> ah k thoreauputic thanks,
[08:59] <ack> thoreauputic thanks
[08:59] <kerlnel20> say like Fcs i can always download kernel-source.x.x.rpm
[08:59] <thoreauputic> erick: cups would be cupsys I think
[08:59] <jim> kerlnel20: then read the README file in the kernel source tree :)
[08:59] <wickedpuppy> kerlnel20, i thought you got no internet ?? how you download any rpm using fc ?
[09:00] <crimsun> kerlnel20: I told you about linux-tree-2.6.12
[09:00] <jim> if he got no internet how come he talkin here?!
[09:00] <Jedrick> i need help, i try to  enable repositories and when updating i got this error " W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 "
[09:00] <kerlnel20> k one at a time i hate scrolling messages
[09:00] <thoreauputic> Jedrick: why are you using marillat?
[09:00] <wickedpuppy> jim, whaa i salute you got ya insight ...
[09:00] <Jedrick> why is that
[09:00] <erick> smb is not included in /etc/init.d
[09:00] <jim> kerlnel20: you have no control over that :)
[09:00] <Jedrick> i dunno
[09:00] <crimsun> kerlnel20: however, if you want to compile a kernel into a Ubuntu deb package, then it's easier to use that command I gave you above when you're connected to the Internet
[09:01] <Jedrick> i just enable repositories directly and i get that error
[09:01] <crimsun> Jedrick: see wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[09:01] <thoreauputic> Jedrick: where did you get that sources.list?
[09:01] <Jedrick> dont have any idea
[09:01] <wickedpuppy> Jedrick, you didn't put it in ?
[09:01] <kerlnel20> here's what i want, i only want to download the kernel source based on the kernel i have so that i can modify some default set ups
[09:01] <thoreauputic> Jedrick: using nerim/marillat with hoary is a recipe for problems
[09:01] <Cashel> rehowdies.. anyone willing to help me with Apache2? The folks in apache are idle...
[09:01] <jim> insight is for when I'm in da houze!
[09:02] <Jedrick> so what should i do?
[09:02] <thoreauputic> Jedrick: fix your sources.list
[09:02] <thoreauputic> !tell Jedrick about sources
[09:02] <jim> otherwise I'm outta sight!
[09:02] <Cashel> I'm trying to redirect a http://whatever request to https://whatever but cant figure out how to do it...
[09:02] <Jedrick> ok
[09:02] <kerlnel20> thats why even if i am not online i can still be able to recompile the kernel
[09:02] <kerlnel20> the issue is recompiling
[09:03] <kerlnel20> Cashel: do apache transproxy set up
[09:03] <erick> thoreuputic smb or samba service is not included in /etc/init.d
[09:03] <jim> kerlnel20: get the kernel-howto and read it... also install kernel-package
[09:03] <Cashel> kerlnel20, ummm could you elaborate?
[09:03] <kerlnel20> erick: maybe u dont have samba installed
[09:03] <kerlnel20> hehe
[09:03] <thoreauputic> erick: yes, samba is there if you installed it
[09:03] <crimsun> kerlnel20: get all the packages that are downloaded with ''sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r) && apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)''
[09:03] <bimberi> thoreauputic: would you believe this page has nerim on it - https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats !!!
[09:03] <erick> but I already edit my /etc/samba/smb
[09:04] <thoreauputic> bimberi: hmmm - not a Good Thing (tm)
[09:04] <woodwizzle> Is breezy running either the new network or power managers?
[09:04] <woodwizzle> or are they both deferred to dapper
[09:04] <erick> thoreauputic how can I restart smb services?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> erick: have you installed samba ?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> erick: it isn't installed by default
[09:05] <erick> how can I know that samba and other packages are installed? let say openoffice
[09:05] <bphan> gparted won't let me resize ntfs
[09:05] <jim> erick: dpkg --help
[09:05] <thoreauputic> erick: apt-cache policy samba
[09:06] <thoreauputic> erick: apt-cache policy openoffice.org
[09:06] <Severian> erick, or go to the Applications menu, and see what is under Office.
[09:06] <thoreauputic> Severian: heh - too easy ;-)
[09:07] <erick> I issue the command apt-cache policy samba and this is the result samba:
[09:07] <erick>   Installed: (none)
[09:07] <erick>   Candidate: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1
[09:07] <erick>   Version table:
[09:07] <erick>      3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 0
[09:07] <erick>         500 cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908) breezy/main Packages
[09:07] <kerlnel20> crimsun: is there any online URL i can download linux-x.x.source.deb?
[09:07] <erick> I think samba is not installed how and where can I get samba packages
[09:07] <thoreauputic> erick: in other words it isn't installed
[09:07] <crimsun> kerlnel20: linux-source-2.6.12 is the patched package name
[09:07] <erick> yeah
[09:07] <thoreauputic> erick: sudo apt-get install samba
[09:07] <kerlnel20> where can i download it?
[09:07] <bimberi> kerlnel20: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:07] <kerlnel20> sudu sosck
[09:07] <kerlnel20> hehee
[09:08] <thoreauputic> erick: or use synaptic
[09:08] <kerlnel20> thanks
[09:08] <kerlnel20> acativate root
[09:08] <Severian> erick, and install smbfs if you are going to mount any samba shares.
[09:08] <crimsun> kerlnel20: it's in archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/
[09:08] <kerlnel20> sudo password root
[09:08] <thoreauputic> erick: and please read the /topic about pasting
[09:09] <Severian> kerlnel20, isn't that passwd
[09:09] <thoreauputic> kerlnel20: that command won't work BTW - it's passwd
[09:09] <thoreauputic> Seveas: oops...
[09:09] <thoreauputic> hah
[09:10] <thoreauputic> Severian: oops again
[09:10] <erick> thoreau thanks my samba is now installed
[09:11] <Denski> is the topic for the breezy colony 5 alreeady the final release?
[09:11] <crimsun> we should clarify that.
[09:11] <Jedrick> how can i play video file on totem movie player?
[09:11] <MadpilotPPC> Jedrick, what format?
[09:11] <thoreauputic> Denski: release is Oct 13
[09:11] <graig> avi
[09:11] <Jedrick> wmv avi mpg
[09:12] <kerlnel20> hehehe
[09:12] <MadpilotPPC> !tell Jedrick about restricted
[09:12] <erick> severian how can i install smbfs? I try sudu apt-get install smbfs? according to the error packages smbfs has no installation candidate
[09:12] <kerlnel20> crimsun: bad url archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/
[09:12] <MadpilotPPC> Jedrick, follow the URL that ubotu just sent you...
[09:12] <graig> !tell graig about restricted
[09:12] <Severian> erick, just like you did samba.  just put smbfs where you had samba
[09:13] <Denski> so the link posted on the topic is just the preview release?, thanks thoreauputic
[09:13] <robsta> hi
[09:13] <thoreauputic> Denski: correct
[09:13] <Severian> I usually use synaptic, so I search for smbfs and mark it and install.
[09:13] <robsta> does anyone know of Deer Park builds for ubuntu/ppc ?
[09:14] <erick> severian I try it but this is the error Reading package lists... Done
[09:14] <erick> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:14] <erick> Package smbfs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:14] <erick> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:14] <erick> is only available from another source
[09:14] <erick> E: Package smbfs has no installation candidate
[09:14] <kerlnel20> to install this package the command is dbpkg install package name?
[09:14] <HrdwrBob> aargh, deer park is a cheap/old persons suburb in melbourne :/
[09:14] <HiddenFly> how can i change ownership of a file?
[09:14] <crimsun> using chown
[09:14] <jim> you can only do that as root
[09:14] <thoreauputic> erick: please - you were told about pasting already: use a pastebin or #flood
[09:14] <HiddenFly> k
[09:14] <crimsun> erick: you need to enable the main repository.
[09:14] <Severian> erick.  just a moment.  Let me look to see where it came from.
[09:15] <aftertaf> robsta:  i think youll have to grab the tarball
[09:15] <robsta> aftertaf: binary or source :P
[09:15] <jim> erick: people might be having -conversations- when you do that. you're not the only one here
[09:15] <Denski> im a newbie here, is GNU different from DEBIAN? or can i install debian packages on GNU????
[09:15] <graig> do people still have to use totem-xine to get videos to work?
[09:15] <erick> k thoreaputic im sorry guys
[09:15] <crimsun> Denski: GNU is different from Debian. See their respective Web sites.
[09:16] <aftertaf> robsta:  source.
[09:16] <kerlnel20> HiddenFly: chown user.group filename
[09:16] <jim> erick: when you want to paste more than one line, use something like rafb.net/paste
[09:16] <HiddenFly> k thx
[09:16] <crimsun> kerlnel20: '.' is deprecated; use ':'
[09:16] <jim> (go there now and look at what it is)
[09:16] <kerlnel20> yeah sorry
[09:16] <Jedrick> where can i get mplayer?
[09:16] <Denski> oh ok thanks Crimsum
[09:16] <kerlnel20> crimsun: how can i install the linux-source?
[09:16] <robsta> aftertaf: k, tx,
[09:16] <kerlnel20> dbpkg install packagename?
[09:17] <vengeful> jedrick..i just use the VLC for gnome..seems to play everything
[09:17] <erick> k jim, im soprry this is my first here
[09:17] <Severian> erick, I forgot.  Are you using Hoary or Breezy?
[09:17] <kerlnel20> ?
[09:17] <aftertaf> kerlnel20:  look for it in synaptic (linux-source-X.X.X.X.
[09:17] <kerlnel20> dbpkg install packagename?
[09:17] <kerlnel20> no i want to download it
[09:17] <aftertaf> kerlnel20:  apt will download it for you
[09:17] <Jedrick> ok ill try vlc
[09:17] <kerlnel20> is that a right command?
[09:17] <kerlnel20> huh
[09:17] <crimsun> kerlnel20: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[09:17] <kerlnel20> crimsun?
[09:17] <thoreauputic> kerlnel20: why make life difficult for yourself?
[09:18] <kerlnel20> no not apt-get
[09:18] <crimsun> kerlnel20: are you just trying to get a copy for yourself now?
[09:18] <kerlnel20> coz i am going to install it in a pc that is not online
[09:18] <kerlnel20> isnt it hard to understand?
[09:18] <Spudz0r> hey, has anyone been able to get the dvico fusion hdtv dvb-t digital tv tuner card (usb) working on ubuntu (hoary)
[09:18] <erick> I dont know how can I know if it is hoary or breezy? I only know that im using version 5.1
[09:18] <aftertaf> kerlnel20:  you can still apt-get
[09:18] <aftertaf> kerlnel20:  itll give you a tarball in /usr/src
[09:18] <Severian> 5.10 is Breezy.  Or really a beta of it.
[09:19] <thoreauputic> kerlnel20: use the -d switch with apt-get
[09:19] <kerlnel20> ?
[09:19] <crimsun> kerlnel20: do you realize that the Ubuntu CD image does not come with a C compiler or the Linux source?
[09:19] <kerlnel20> why not dbpkg?
[09:19] <kerlnel20> yes
[09:19] <kerlnel20> crimsun: thats why iwant to download a linux source
[09:19] <zblach> 5.10 -- the 10/2005 release -- breezy
[09:20] <ColonelKernel> very nice stuff
[09:20] <kerlnel20> so that i can modify it to fit to my damn wants
[09:20] <zblach> ...i think
[09:20] <crimsun> kerlnel20: so to be able to compile a new kernel, you will need all the packages downloaded with ''sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r) && apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)''
[09:20] <thoreauputic> kerlnel20: judging by your questions so far I can only say, good luck
[09:20] <vengeful> Jedrick, did it work?
[09:20] <erick> severian how will I know what version im using
[09:20] <bigfoot1> hi guys, I'm trying to unload a module (ipaq) with the command "rmmod ipaq", but i get the message: "ERROR: Removing 'ipaq': Operation not permitted". What must I do?
[09:20] <Jedrick> not yet still downloading 80%
[09:21] <vengeful> bigfoot, sudo?
[09:21] <wickedpuppy> bigfoot1, try sudo
[09:21] <bigfoot1> vengeful, wickedpuppy, i guess I should always try sudo if the non-sudo command doesn't work, yes?
[09:22] <bigfoot1> vengeful, wickedpuppy, btw: it worked! thanks.
[09:22] <vengeful> well when it says operation not permitted its a nice hint ;-)
[09:22] <wickedpuppy> lol :P
[09:22] <Cashel> apt-get install kernel-package wouldnt be a bad idea either...
[09:22] <Severian> erick, good question.  I generally just know.  You could look at the repositories in sources.list and make a good guess.
[09:22] <crimsun> kerlnel20: in other words, you will need to download the following packages: bzip2, debhelper, xmlto, docbook-utils, gs, kernel-package, module-init-tools, sharutils, transfig, dpatch, kernel-wedge, gcc-3.4, linux-source-2.6.12
[09:22] <bigfoot1> wickedpuppy, was your lol 4 me?
[09:22] <wickedpuppy> nope ... for vengeful
[09:22] <ColonelKernel> what is kernel-wedge?
[09:23] <Cashel> and ncurses-dev if you want to make menuconfig...
[09:23] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: see the apt-cache show kernel-wedge description
[09:23] <eythian> anyone know how I can remotely fsck a harddisk? I need to remount it as read only, but can't.
[09:23] <ColonelKernel> kernel-wedge - udeb package builder for Debian-Installer
[09:23] <graig> i notice gstreamer has alot more codecs now.
[09:23] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, doesnt kernel-package build-essential take care of this stuff?
[09:23] <vengeful> what partition is it , eythian
[09:24] <eythian> vengeful, /
[09:24] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: and where's the source?
[09:24] <jim> ColonelKernel: no
[09:24] <eythian> vengeful, it's my parents desktop machine, and it's started playing up
[09:24] <kikinovak> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu 5.04. Only added the vanilla sources.list entries, and then performed an apt-get upgrade, which upgraded about 200 MB of packages. My main goal is to have a _stable_ working system, I'm not much for bleeding edge. Now I need to install Java, and I see it's easier to install by backports. Q: if I add hoary-backports entry to sources.list, will this try to upgrade every single app on my system?
[09:24] <vengeful> ok, OS?
[09:24] <jim> look at the docs to kernel-wedge, or better yet, do that and then try it
[09:24] <eythian> vengeful, I'm thinking it's the harddisk
[09:24] <eythian> vengeful, Mandrake
[09:24] <jim> okos?
[09:24] <vengeful> o manrake..
[09:25] <thoreauputic> !tell kikinovak about javadeb
[09:25] <Severian> erick, I don't see where it tells me which repository.  I have all the repositories turned on in Synaptic.  And smbfs showed up as a valid choice and installed fine.  You must have something turned off.
[09:25] <vengeful> not sure then
[09:25] <eythian> vengeful, what would you suggest for anything else?
[09:25] <vengeful> usually if theres a prob it forces it to do checks
[09:25] <thoreauputic> kikinovak: java isn't in backports any more
[09:25] <vengeful> but i know from experience
[09:25] <kikinovak> thoreauputic: where is it? I only need the plugin for Firefox.
[09:25] <vengeful> not shutting mandrake down properly can cause colourful results
[09:26] <thoreauputic> kikinovak: check your msg
[09:26] <kerlnel20> crimsun: say i downloaded  linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.21_all.deb the install it via dbpkg install linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.21_all.deb
[09:26] <eythian> vengeful, yeah, I don't know if it's asking on boot, but they don't seem to be getting run.
[09:26] <kerlnel20> ?
[09:26] <thoreauputic> kikinovak: ubotu sent you URLs
[09:26] <eythian> it's running Reiser, which is usually pretty solid.
[09:26] <locomorto> FS or 4?
[09:26] <eythian> FS
[09:26] <vengeful> usually mandrake asks you on boot..but if you dont shut down properly a few times...it can screw the whole thing up
[09:26] <kerlnel20> ?
[09:26] <crimsun> kerlnel20: dpkg -i
[09:26] <kikinovak> thoreauputic: sorry I don't know who ubotu is, and I saw nothing
[09:26] <kerlnel20> ic thanks
[09:27] <crimsun> kerlnel20: please read the command line options
[09:27] <kerlnel20> so is it automatic that it will be in /usr/src?
[09:27] <thoreauputic> kikinovak:  /msg ubotu javadeb
[09:27] <eythian> vengeful, hmm, I think I drilled shutting down into my parents when I set it up for them.
[09:27] <Severian> I must go.  I have a seminar in the morning, here in Dallas.  Good day all.
[09:27] <HappyHobo> Will the latest version of Ubuntu really come with Kumbaya as part of the sound scheme?
[09:27] <thoreauputic> kikinovak: ubotu is the channel bot
[09:27] <jim> kikinovak: you can build your own java .deb which you then install... people will tell you the better way is to obtain existing debs at some place like where the bot will tell you, but that has legal problems that can get you AND the place where you got it in trouble.
[09:27] <kikinovak> thoreauputic: a ok thanks
[09:27] <Jedrick> vengeful,  its not working. it wont open to vlc.. the file is .dat its from a cd
[09:28] <HappyHobo> I think someone was yanking my chain
[09:28] <kerlnel20> so is it automatic that it will be in /usr/src?
[09:28] <vengeful> btw whats it partitioned as?
[09:28] <jim> I have NO idea why people would be advocating something like that here.
[09:28] <vengeful> .dat
[09:28] <thoreauputic> jim: true, but the people supplying the debs are aware of that, and simply getting them isn't illegal - just distributing them
[09:28] <HappyHobo> will Ubuntu include Kumbaya as part of the sound scheme
[09:28] <vengeful> isnt that a vcd then
[09:28] <vengeful> or svcd
[09:28] <vengeful> one of the two
[09:28] <HappyHobo> well?
[09:29] <jim> thoreauputic: you're also facilitating every time you point them there :) so you might have culpability...
[09:29] <Jedrick> its a vcd
[09:29] <vengeful> hm not sure then...mplayer maybe
[09:29] <Jedrick> ok
[09:29] <vengeful> thought you said avi, sorry
[09:29] <thoreauputic> jim: I'm waiting for the blackhelicopters to arrive as we speak ;)
[09:29] <jim> and that's -stupid- when there is a -legal- way :)
[09:29] <kikinovak> jim: I've been using Slackware for years, because for a long time it was the _only_ distro where _everything_ worked out of the box (no flame intended). Now I gave Kubuntu 5.04 a try, and I was so impressed that I decided to migrate all my four boxes to it.
[09:29] <iKernel> HOLY CACKAMOLY!!!
[09:30] <erick> severian how can I used synaptic instead of apt-get
[09:30] <iKernel> LOOK AT ALL THE PPL IN THE UBUNTU CHANNEL!!!
[09:30] <jim> kikinovak: glad it worked out
[09:30] <iKernel> FARK ME DEAD!
[09:30] <iKernel> lolol
[09:30] <kerlnel20> erick: man synaptic
[09:30] <kerlnel20> i guess
[09:30] <kikinovak> jim: now you suggest I build my own java .deb? from sources? with checkinstall?
[09:30] <Jedrick> ur right its avi but im only testng the cd one, so i think im gonna try download some avi file and see if it works  :)
[09:30] <jim> kikinovak: no, use java-package
[09:30] <MadpilotPPC> erick, System menu --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Mngr
[09:30] <bigfoot1> hi guys, how do i kill a program? I need to know its id. how can i know the id? what commands do i use?
[09:31] <jim> and yes, it does produce a deb, but not from sources
[09:31] <vengeful> .dat is ususally vcd...as i recall i never had a problem with mplayer or totem
[09:31] <jim> go check it out
[09:31] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: easier is to use killall or pkill
[09:31] <kikinovak> jim can you be a bit more explicit please? (remember I only need it for firefox)
[09:31] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, will killall kill ALL running programs?
[09:31] <aftertaf> sudo killall progtype
[09:31] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: no, just the one you tell it to kill :) e.g. killall emacs
[09:31] <ColonelKernel> yeesh - thats ok - ill stick with firefox the way it is
[09:32] <ColonelKernel> its fast enough
[09:32] <jim> kikinovak: sure I will :) AFTER you install java-package, read man make-jpkg and read /usr/share/doc/java-package/SUPPORTED
[09:32] <aftertaf> lol thoreauputic :)
[09:32] <HappyHobo> I'll switch to Ubuntu if they are putting Kumbaya as part of the sound scheme
[09:32] <ormandj> how bad (good) is ati in linux? the only thing keeping me dual-booting windows is eve online, and i heard under cedega it plays will, but i've only seen with nvidia
[09:32] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, thanks that was easier.
[09:33] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1:  pkill <progname> is also useful
[09:33] <jim> that way I know you've at least committed to the learning
[09:33] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, what's the diff between pkill and killall?
[09:33] <jim> p - all
[09:33] <vengeful> ormandj..like with anything. its good as long as drivers have been released for it....depends how old the ati is i guess
[09:33] <kikinovak> jim: thanks very much... as a slack veteran I'm not a lamer for rtfm:oD
[09:33] <MadpilotPPC> ormandj, my ATI 9600XT runs just fine in Ubuntu; I've heard other ppl running newer cards w/o trouble too...
[09:33] <ColonelKernel> ok, so the whole system runs WAY better with a properly optimized kernel
[09:33] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: afaik pkill finds the prcocess number and kills it
[09:33] <thoreauputic> *process
[09:33] <ormandj> vengeful: pretty old, 9800pro
[09:34] <bigfoot1> dan what does killall do differently?
[09:34] <vengeful> should be fine then
[09:34] <kikinovak> jim: with kubuntu i feel like driving a honda goldwing after years of enfield bullet:oD
[09:34] <ormandj> k, ill see how it works after i get the ati stuff etc
[09:34] <jim> kikinovak: I'm not sure you'd lack for any understanding after that, but in case you do, people here do know how to use it
[09:34] <erick> madpliot thanks I'll check it later
[09:34] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: pgrep will return the process number - like pgrep bash or pgrep xterm etc
[09:34] <kikinovak> jim: who are they? is this the developer channel mainly?
[09:35] <jim> kikinovak: read the docs... there's a misconception you have that will be dispelled
[09:36] <kikinovak> jim: anyway... i especially like the no-bullshit side of it. I installed my main server with ubuntu server, got it up and running in no time. nice.
[09:36] <jim> it's probably not the dev channel... the devs would probably go nuts here if they stay long...
[09:36] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1:  man signal
[09:36] <MadpilotPPC> jim, #ubuntu-devel is dev territory, I gather...
[09:36] <jim> oh, ok'
[09:36] <HaNazir> how do i create a new user, but yet hide him from the user and groups?
[09:37] <kikinovak> jim: well... it's a hell of a lot of a difference to irc.debian.org#debian... ever tried to grasp some info there?
[09:37] <Jedrick> vengeful, ey thnx its working now.. on avi and mpeg file :)
[09:37] <jim> HaNazir: not sure what you mean
[09:37] <jim> kikinovak: I'm a dd :P
[09:37] <HaNazir> jim, when u click on the tool user and groups, u see all the users right?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> kikinovak: heh - some of us spent some time in #debian - it's a blood sport ;-)
[09:38] <vengeful> ;-)
[09:38] <kikinovak> well after that I found alt.os.linux.slackware nice and easy compared to that
[09:39] <jim> kikinovak: I'm here trying to determine why a ubuntu hoary install succeeded where a debian sarge install failed (related to dhcp)
[09:39] <erick> is chatting with webcam possible in ubuntu
[09:39] <vengeful> gnome meeting, erick?
[09:39] <jim> one difference I found right away is ubuntu uses dhcp3-client at install time
[09:40] <HaNazir> how do i create a hidden user?
[09:40] <kikinovak> jim: last time I gave debian a try was when I tried Potato's desktop potential a few years ago. Boy, what a mess...
[09:40] <jim> erick: yes, it's possible :)
[09:40] <Jedrick> im trying to install the package macromedia flash but i got this error " E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree " why is that?
[09:40] <erick> vengeful gnomemeeting?
[09:40] <vengeful> yes
[09:40] <jim> I kinda liked potato... it could run oracle-8i
[09:41] <erick> guys brb
[09:41] <kikinovak> jim: but before reinstalling my server I hesitated briefly between Debian Sarge and Ubuntu.
[09:41] <cafuego_> Why would you run Oracle when there are better alternatives?
[09:41] <jim> becasue it has the same libc version oracle-8i was built with
[09:41] <zblach> hi. there was a partition auto-detection script. what was it again?
[09:41] <zblach> and is it needed for breezy?
[09:41] <Jedrick> im trying to install the package macromedia flash but i got this error " E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree " why is that?
[09:41] <Jedrick> anyone
[09:41] <cafuego_> jim: That's easy enough to manage via a chroot.
[09:42] <vengeful> jedrick i installed mine via firefox and has no issues
[09:42] <vengeful> did it all for me
[09:42] <kikinovak> jim: I think (stupidly) that what made me decide for Ubuntu was the rude tone on irc.debian.org:oD
[09:42] <erick> can I use RDP to access my windows server?
[09:42] <jim> cafuego_: yeah, and they have this wrapper lib thing that works now
[09:42] <erick> and how
[09:42] <Jedrick> ok whats the link?
[09:42] <vengeful> have you firefox installed?
[09:42] <cafuego_> kikinovak: This network *is* irc.debian.org
[09:42] <x_or> I updated to a new hoary kernel, and now upon boot it says "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS."  Does anyone know what this means?
[09:42] <jim> btw... you're on irc.debian.org...
[09:42] <Jedrick> yes
[09:42] <vengeful> just visit a site with flash and it should do it for you
[09:42] <kikinovak> jim: maybe "Debian" is the kwazooli word for "shitty attitude towards the rest of humanity" LOL
[09:42] <Jedrick> im using mozilla firefox
[09:42] <cafuego_> kikinovak: Anyway, people there aren't rude, just realistic.
[09:42] <kikinovak> cafuego_: but this channel here isn't
[09:43] <kevin06> I use a LOT of fonts, so many that GNOME and KDE fail to load if i power down or restart. What kind of program can I use to "select" which fonts I can have active at one time?
[09:43] <vengeful> yes just visit a flash site and it should prompt you
[09:43] <cafuego_> kikinovak: Maybe not now... depends on the questions people ask.
[09:43] <Jedrick> ok
[09:43] <jim> kikinovak: some people there do have stinky attitudes, asuffield, mwilson, one or two others, me at times
[09:43] <aftertaf> depends how they ask them too..... some ppl have little patience for new ppl or bady phrased Qus.
[09:43] <cafuego_> don't speak a bad word about mwilson, he's my bitch ;-)
[09:43] <White_Knight> !fstab
[09:43] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, White_Knight
[09:43] <thoreauputic> jim: mwilson is a master of the genre :)
[09:44] <kikinovak> cafuego_: just yesterday I had a problem setting up a dhcp server, wondering why dns entries wouldn't get written to the client's resolv.conf. And all I got was 'man dhcp' and rtfm. That stinks.
[09:44] <cafuego_> aftertaf: The patience tends to go out the window when you get the same question 10 times a day for 2 years. (Sometimes from the same person)
[09:44] <jim> but for my part I was trying to get people to think who refused to
[09:45] <cafuego_> kikinovak: If the answer was really clear in the manpage, that's fair enough.
[09:45] <jim> and I don't see how or why they'd go one inch away from mac or win
[09:45] <cafuego_> jim: They don't need to, openOffice runs fine on Windoze.
[09:45] <jim> kikinovak: you're ON irc.debian.org NOW :)
[09:45] <aftertaf> cafuego_:  i entirely agree.......
[09:45] <kikinovak> cafuego_: in the end it was a forgotten semicolon at the end of the domain-name-servers line. A classic:oD
[09:45] <cafuego_> aftertaf: And at the end of the day, every irc client has an /ignore ;-)
[09:45] <jim> people throwning rocks at glass houses before realizing they're actually in them :)
[09:46] <n00bster> help - i formated ext3 part, and got left with no system, i have no boot disk?
[09:46] <aftertaf> cafuego_:  hehe..... :D
[09:46] <MadpilotPPC> jim, this is freenode, not debian.org...
[09:46] <kikinovak> see ya folks. work waits. thanks everybody
[09:46] <cafuego_> kikinovak: ero, rtfl ;-)
[09:46] <thoreauputic> jim: I think the pedantry about networks is unnecessary - the channel is rlevant though ;)
[09:46] <n00bster> and ubuntu have no CD Burner Installd
[09:46] <Jedrick> vengeful,  weeee thnx.. it worked
[09:46] <jim> MadpilotPPC: try it yourself... go to irc.debian.org then try coming here :)
[09:46] <vengeful> ;-)
[09:46] <kikinovak> jim: this is irc.freenode.net
[09:46] <aftertaf> its all backdoor aliases :)
[09:46] <n00bster> :-|
[09:46] <jim> yes, it's just an alias
[09:47] <thoreauputic> kikinovak: same servers
[09:47] <MadpilotPPC> n00bster, Nautilus will burn CDs
[09:47] <x_or> Anyone know how to fix "Error 18:  Selected cylinder exceeds supported by BIOS"?
[09:47] <jim> but I'm just saying you are on the same net :)
[09:47] <n00bster> help - i formated ext3 part' and left with no system, i have no boot disk?
[09:47] <n00bster> yah ?
[09:47] <n00bster> how?
[09:47] <jim> lest the rock you throw boomerang at you by mistake :)
[09:47] <aftertaf> lol jim
[09:47] <n00bster> i'm on ubuntu Live-CD
[09:48] <thoreauputic> ;)
[09:48] <n00bster> found it !! CD\DVD Creator !
[09:48] <seethru> hey, did anyone else do that udev fix like a week or two ago, and after that their cd/dvd-rom's stopped auto-mounting when inserting media?
[09:49] <n00bster> but how can i mount my hda1 so i can save a Boot CD there ?
[09:49] <erick> jim can use RDP to connect to my windows server?
[09:49] <aftertaf> yes you can.
[09:49] <jim> rdp? dunno :) maybe :)
[09:49] <jim> what's a rdp?
[09:49] <n00bster> MadpilotPPC: how can i mount my hda1 so i can save a Boot CD there ?
[09:49] <aftertaf> erick:  if you've enabled TSE
[09:49] <erick> remote desktop
[09:50] <erick> TSE? what is TSE
[09:50] <jim> you can do the same thing in reverse if you install cygwin xfree86 on the win box
[09:50] <jim> the silly enabler?
[09:50] <ghita> can someone please tell me how to start gaim minimized?
[09:50] <aftertaf> erick:  terminal services... but this chan is not an MCSE support channel and tere are lots of stuff on technet about that.
[09:51] <aftertaf> erick:  after that, the rdesktop on linux works just like the win client does....
[09:51] <brownie17> can someone help me? i have an iso of a cd i want to burn to the cd
[09:51] <erick> ah k I already install TSE on my windows server, actually I already use Terminal Server client
[09:51] <jim> brownie17: you want to burn it directly to the cd as am image
[09:52] <brownie17> jim, yes, how?
[09:52] <brownie17> jim, oh no
[09:52] <brownie17> jim, i want to create a cd form the image
[09:52] <jim> dunno under ubuntu
[09:52] <n00bster> ok, GOT it :} ty.
[09:52] <erick> aftertaf, I already enable TSE on my windows server
[09:52] <aftertaf> erick:  in that case, just run the rdp client on linux in the same way as you do in win
[09:52] <seethru> did anyone else do that udev fix like a week or two ago, and after that their cd/dvd-rom's stopped auto-mounting when inserting media?
[09:52] <brownie17> can someone tell me what software i can use to burn a cd image onto a cd. creating a new cd from the image?
[09:52] <jim> brownie17: yes, that's true too
[09:52] <Jedrick> how to install java?
[09:52] <thoreauputic> brownie17: in the nautilus file manager, right click the ISO and choose the CD burn option
[09:53] <brownie17> thoreauputic, i am not using kubuntu. is it possible to do it easily in gnome? because i have KDE installed. i can change if i have to
[09:53] <vengeful> jedrick i didnt get around to that yet :-)
[09:53] <seethru> brownie17: that is in gnome
[09:53] <aftertaf> brownie17:  nautilus is gnome.....
[09:53] <bob2> brownie17: the gnome file manager does that...
[09:53] <jim> brownie17: you could use cdrecord, but I dunno the command line to do it
[09:53] <thoreauputic> brownie17: well, what I suggested works in gnome - not sure in KDE how you do it
[09:53] <erick> aftertaf where can I see the rdp client? is this the same as TSclient? that can find in Applicatiosn Internet the TSC
[09:53] <brownie17> aftertaf, hahah my mistake. i am getting so confused theese days with lunx
[09:54] <tothemaxxx> i have been looking for a guide, and obviously i haven't found one, for installing (k)ubuntu over NFS... anyone can point me to the right direction?
[09:54] <Jedrick> it says that " Make a symbolic link to libjavaplugin_oji.so in your Mozilla Plugins directory. Unless you are using an old version of Mozilla, or one you compiled yourself with gcc 2.9x, use the copy located in the plugin/i386/ns7 directory of JRE 5.0, or plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32 if you are using JRE 1.4.2. "
[09:54] <Jedrick> but i dont know how to.. im just a noob
[09:54] <seethru> so, I'm the only one who did that udev fix?
[09:54] <brownie17> thoreauputic, um.. techincally it is not a ".ISO" format. it is ccd
[09:54] <aftertaf> erick:  search in synaptic for rdp. failing that sudo apt-get install  rdesktop
[09:54] <crimsun> seethru: which udev fix?
[09:54] <brownie17> thoreauputic, i have another copy that is a ".img" format
[09:54] <jim> ccd?
[09:54] <erick> aftertaf thanks
[09:55] <aftertaf> crimsun:  breezy was broken 2 weeks ago, udev didnt create mouse
[09:55] <jim> now I'm not sure what you should do
[09:55] <aftertaf> erick:  np
[09:55] <seethru> crimsun: like a week or two ago when udev13 broke udev, and they quickly had to rebuild and release
[09:55] <jim> but if it's an image which (for example) is a file system of some kind, then you want to write the image to the cd
[09:55] <crimsun> you mean the whole failed "ignore certain kernel events"?
[09:55] <thoreauputic> brownie17: *shrug* I don't know - I would try renanming it to *.iso and burning it - see what happens
[09:56] <thoreauputic> brownie17: no idea about ccd etc
[09:56] <brownie17> thoreauputic, that doesn't sound very techical. i highly doubt it would work
[09:56] <tothemaxxx> hi
[09:56] <brownie17> thoreauputic, maybe k3b or some other software would do it?
[09:56] <aftertaf> lol brownie17 true
[09:56] <thoreauputic> brownie17: no harm in trying it - at worst you make a coaster
[09:56] <brownie17> thoreauputic, hahah
[09:56] <seethru> crimsun: not sure if thats what it was, all I know is X wasn't starting and the fix on the forums let me back in, and unfortunately since then my cd/dvd drives don't mount media automatically. I have to manually mount a cd whenever I insert one.
[09:57] <aftertaf> damn bots!
[09:57] <jim> !damn bots
[09:57] <ubotu> Wish i knew, jim
[09:57] <brownie17> !bots
[09:57] <ubotu> brownie17: I haven't a clue
[09:57] <tothemaxxx> i have been looking for a guide, and obviously i haven't found one, for installing (k)ubuntu over NFS... anyone can point me to the right direction?
[09:57] <crimsun> seethru: paste the contents (simple ls) of /etc/udev/rules.d/ onto paste
[09:57] <brownie17> !bot
[09:57] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to brownie17? I think not. Bot, jot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[09:57] <jim> !pots
[09:57] <ubotu> jim: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[09:58] <brownie17> anyone know how to burn a .img or a .ccd cd image to a cd!?
[09:58] <Toma-> anyone know where i might find an ubuntu/kubuntu symbol png?
[09:58] <aftertaf> brownie17:  uncle google get you any clues?
[09:58] <aftertaf> Toma-:  try ubuntu site
[09:59] <aftertaf> there is artwork you can get
[09:59] <jim> !uncle google
[09:59] <ubotu> jim: No idea
[09:59] <Toma-> ahh of course
[09:59] <Toma-> thanks
[09:59] <jim> you haven't traind him yet!
[09:59] <aftertaf> hehe :)
[09:59] <seethru> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2810
[09:59] <ubuntu> hi guys has anyone installed MAC OSX?
[09:59] <ubuntu> tiger using ubuntu live cd?
[10:00] <crimsun> seethru: looks fine to me. Do you see any kernel notifications in dmesg when you insert a CD?
[10:01] <ack> hi guys has anyone tried to install MAC OSX?
[10:02] <thoreauputic> ack: of course - but how is this on topic?
[10:02] <malv> if I have more than one sound card, how do I pick the one to output from?
[10:02] <seethru> crimsun: infact I do -> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2811
[10:02] <Jedrick> How to install java?
[10:03] <thoreauputic> !java
[10:03] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[10:03] <ack> thoreauputic would you help me? I'm on ubuntu live cd right now
[10:03] <Jedrick> its not working on apt-get for me
[10:03] <bob2> ack: sounds more like a #macosx question
[10:03] <ack> thoreauputic I wanna see how cool it is
[10:03] <ack> okay thnks
[10:04] <libcafe20> hi
[10:04] <White_Knight> hi. I have some partitions i need to make fully accessible. how can I do so?
[10:04] <crimsun> seethru: have you modified any settings in System> Preferences> Removable Drives and Media?
[10:04] <bob2> White_Knight: /msg ubotu ntfs
[10:04] <brownie17> when i plug in a kodak camera to get photos off it, the thing says "would you like to import photos to album?" i say yes, and it then opens another window which jams. can anyone tell me another way to get photos off a cd?
[10:04] <aftertaf> White_Knight:  what FS?
[10:04] <jim> White_Knight: they're only half accessable now?
[10:05] <White_Knight> they currently have 755 status
[10:05] <aftertaf> brownie17:  yep... go into nautilus and navigate in /media/
[10:05] <aftertaf> White_Knight:  what is the filesystem?
[10:05] <White_Knight> I think the fs is Fat32?
[10:05] <White_Knight> any way to check quickly?
[10:06] <seethru> crimsun: nope, only the blank media section to run gnomebaker.
[10:06] <brownie17> aftertaf, no good. doesn't appear there. there is my hda2, "BROWNIE" (my lfash disk) "cdrom" "cdrom0" and "cdrom1"
[10:06] <aftertaf> White_Knight:  if mounted, type just 'mount'
[10:06] <brownie17> aftertaf, btw, i only have two cd rom drives
[10:06] <hejux> so does anybody use FVWM ?
[10:07] <jim> hejux: used to
[10:07] <hejux> why?
[10:07] <jim> nice, functional
[10:07] <crimsun> seethru: can you reproduce this with a new user?
[10:07] <jim> fast, small
[10:07] <hejux> why not now ?
[10:07] <aftertaf> brownie17:  try in kde.... works for me via usb mass storage device drivers
[10:07] <White_Knight> the drives are mounted
[10:07] <jim> I'm still trying gnome
[10:07] <Bateau_> how do i install .bin files?
[10:07] <brownie17> aftertaf, ok
[10:07] <aftertaf> White_Knight:  type 'mount' then.
[10:07] <jim> Bateau_: what's in the .bin files?
[10:07] <Jedrick> when installing java package i got this error "E: Couldn't find package java-package "
[10:07] <aftertaf> and read the output concerning your partition
[10:07] <White_Knight> fs: vfat
[10:07] <aftertaf> ;)
[10:07] <White_Knight> (rw)
[10:07] <Bateau_> jim: its a program. ejabberd
[10:08] <White_Knight> and i need it to be vfat (rxw)
[10:08] <hejux> so far as i see FVWM is a little ugly :)
[10:08] <crimsun> Jedrick: it's in multiverse.
[10:08] <aftertaf> no you dont... not really
[10:08] <aftertaf> White_Knight:  read ubotu link
[10:08] <aftertaf> !mount
[10:08] <ubotu> somebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[10:08] <Jedrick> ok then how to get it?
[10:08] <jim> Bateau_: you should have gotten instructions with it. have you read them/
[10:08] <seethru> crimsun: hmmm interesting question, I'll go find out :)
[10:08] <crimsun> !tell Jedrick about repos
[10:08] <aftertaf> White_Knight:  you need to add stuff about umask......
[10:10] <White_Knight> ubotu, tell me about umask
[10:10] <hejux> kde gnome FVWM ,any other nice choose?
[10:10] <hejux> White_Knight: umask is about permission
[10:10] <aftertaf> White_Knight:  google "mount fat umask"....
[10:11] <hejux> umask=0 means can read and write NTFS
[10:11] <aftertaf> hejux:  FAT you mean ;)
[10:11] <seethru> crimsun: nope, doesn't automount under a new user account either...
[10:11] <White_Knight> aftertaf, i'll make sure to have safe search _on_
[10:11] <brownie17> aftertaf, it's in there in KDE, but not in Gnome
[10:11] <graig> hello, why does breezy not require the password for opening things like synaptic?
[10:12] <White_Knight> hang on. its mounted, but I'm getting permission errors with azureus
[10:12] <aftertaf> graig:  it does, but if asked once itll not ask again for a short time...
[10:12] <hejux> hey could you show me some nice sceen shots ?
[10:13] <brownie17> aftertaf, do i need drivers just top get the photos off a camera?
[10:13] <aftertaf> brosio:  nope.... itll be usb mass storage i imagine
[10:13] <aftertaf> grrr  brownie17 ^^^^^^^
[10:13] <graig> hey, wow.  i just checked out my wacom tablet, and the pressure sensitivity works way better.
[10:13] <crimsun> seethru: do usb thumb drives?
[10:13] <graig> it must be the new gimp version.
[10:14] <seethru> crimsun: nope, don't have any of those. I do have an ipod, and it does get auto-mounted...
[10:14] <aftertaf> itll be nautilus not doing the automount.... KIO & konqueror manage it on kde... maybe a gnome workaround but i dont know of one.
[10:15] <crimsun> seethru: ok, so mounting _does_ work but just not CDs. It's a shame I don't have a CD drive to test.
[10:15] <bob2> natuilus doesn't ever mount anything
[10:15] <bob2> g-v-m is in charge of that
[10:15] <graig> and the images that come of my digital camera turn out more color correct ;)
[10:15] <aftertaf> oki bob2 thx for that info... :)
[10:16] <Jedrick> how to install update using terminal
[10:17] <bob2> "install update"?
[10:17] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  apt is your best friend :)
[10:17] <bob2> you mean "install updates"?
[10:17] <Jedrick> like in the ubuntu update manager
[10:17] <Jedrick> i want to do it on terminal
[10:17] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install
[10:17] <Jedrick> is it possible?
[10:17] <tothemaxxx> i have been looking for a guide, and obviously i haven't found one, for installing (k)ubuntu over NFS... anyone can point me to the right direction?
[10:17] <aftertaf> + package name
[10:18] <Jedrick> theyre too many
[10:18] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  have you changed your sources list?
[10:18] <Jedrick> how to install them all at once
[10:18] <Jedrick> no
[10:18] <bob2> Jedrick: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:18] <Jedrick> k
[10:18] <aftertaf> !apt
[10:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[10:18] <bob2> Jedrick: note that it's a lot easier to help you if you tell us what you're really trying to do
[10:18] <bob2> tothemaxxx: install how? point apt at packages over nfs?
[10:18] <aftertaf> bob2:  he just got his net connection working and wants to update
[10:18] <Jedrick> just trying to update some software
[10:19] <aftertaf> bob2:  is there a ubotu link to help new ppl to do that?
[10:19] <brownie17> aftertaf, it is staying on initialising camera
[10:19] <aftertaf> !tell Jedrick about repositories
[10:19] <Shin_Gouki> Jedrick , re what ur prob?
[10:19] <Toms> osssssssssaaaaaaa
[10:19] <bob2> Toms: please don't
[10:20] <Toms> uuuuuuusssssssssaaaaaaaa
[10:20] <demantik> if i 'rm -r music' (directory) which is linked to my music folder on my windows drive, it wont try and touch the win drive right?
[10:20] <cevizoglu> what is the name of the pre-installed 3d game with the marbles?
[10:20] <demantik> or do i have to remove the link first
[10:20] <Shin_Gouki> Jedrick , re what is ur problem?
[10:20] <bob2> demantik: symlink? don't use -r.
[10:20] <Jedrick> Shin_Gouki,  i want to update my software using terminal.. not on the ubuntu update manager
[10:20] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  ok. if youve changed your repositories, then type this command :  sudo apt-get update
[10:20] <Shin_Gouki> Jedrick , ok no prob i did same
[10:20] <demantik> bob2 - yeah symlink
[10:21] <demantik> ok
[10:21] <Shin_Gouki> Jedrick , ok what sowftware exactly u want to update?
[10:21] <aftertaf> then the command bob2 gave you (dist-upgrade)
[10:21] <demantik> bob2 - ok thx, worked....
[10:21] <Jedrick> aftertaf,  ok done
[10:21] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  the whole system, i think ;)
[10:21] <Toma-> where can u get the ubuntu font?
[10:21] <Jedrick> Shin_Gouki,  all *
[10:21] <Jedrick> :)
[10:21] <Shin_Gouki> Jedrick , hm use aptitude
[10:22] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:22] <Shin_Gouki> Jedrick , hm use aptitude and then step by step : apt-get install update ....etc..
[10:22] <Jedrick> ok
[10:23] <Shin_Gouki> if i deleteed a text file
[10:23] <Shin_Gouki> from shell is there a trahs?
[10:24] <erick> GUYS i HOW CAN i USE GNOME BITTORENT
[10:24] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: nope
[10:24] <bob2> erick: stop it
[10:24] <Shin_Gouki> eick
[10:24] <Shin_Gouki> use java bittorent client
[10:24] <Shin_Gouki> azeruas
[10:24] <Shin_Gouki> or such its nie
[10:24] <Shin_Gouki> nice
[10:25] <erick> BOB2 WHY? WHAT WILL i STOP
[10:25] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, ther is still a swap file of the txt file present... any chance?
[10:25] <bob2> erick: stop being so bloody annoyinh
[10:25] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: copy the swap file, now
[10:25] <Shin_Gouki> erick, tell me what u wanti may help u
[10:25] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, where to?
[10:26] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: er, anywhere?
[10:26] <SCR34M> I'm using compaq armada m700, PIII 750, partition hda1-> dos, hda5-> windows, hda6-> RH Linux, hda7-> swap, I tried to install ubuntu, however it always stucks in the partition step, anyone can help?
[10:26] <bob2> copy it before it gets lost
[10:26] <Shin_Gouki> ok bob 2 , done what now
[10:26] <bob2> what?
[10:26] <bob2> think this through
[10:26] <erick> SHIN GOUKI THANKS AND bob@ iM SORRY
[10:26] <bob2> perhaps look in the file?
[10:27] <bob2> erick: stop using caps, or leave
[10:27] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, i copyed the swp file, how can i regain my txtfile from the swp?
[10:27] <bob2> 18:26:57           bob2 | perhaps look in the file?
[10:27] <pepsi> i setup an nfs share using the "shared folders" app
[10:27] <pepsi> how do i connect to it?
[10:27] <erick> whats wrong with caps? and how will i adjust it
[10:28] <bob2> erick: it's extraordinarily annoying, and considered rude
[10:28] <Shin_Gouki> erick, i want GNOME download programm?
[10:28] <Shin_Gouki> erick, u have java installed?
[10:28] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, plz explain slowly to me what to do with the swapfile now to regain txt document , plz
[10:29] <erick> yeah i know bob2 but since my first to use ubunto,i dont know where can i adjust my font size
[10:29] <erick> shin i dont know i check it first
[10:29] <bob2> erick: wtf
[10:29] <Shin_Gouki> erick, try xchat its pretty cool
[10:29] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 dont focus on that
[10:29] <bob2> erick: this has nothing to do with your fontsize, it's the fact you were using your caps lock key
[10:29] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: "plz" is not a word
[10:29] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: did you actually look in the swp file yet?
[10:30] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 yes...not really readble text...strange characters... :(
[10:30] <erick> k im sorry bob2?
[10:30] <Shin_Gouki> erick, what is ur problem ATM?
[10:30] <graig> its not asking me for the sudo password at all in breezy. whats wrong?
[10:31] <erick> xchat use for chatting shin, I want gnome download program
[10:31] <bob2> graig: show us your /etc/sudoers in #flood
[10:31] <crimsun> graig: did you modify sudoers?
[10:31] <Shin_Gouki> erick, u have installed java?
[10:31] <graig> i diddn't modify it.
[10:31] <kikinovak> Hi. Back when I used Slackware, I liked the Luxi Sans and Luxi serif fonts that came with a default desktop install. Q: are these ttf fonts to be found somewhere in a ttf fonts package?
[10:31] <fek> moin
[10:31] <graig> it wont let me open it
[10:32] <erick> how can i know that java is installed on my ubunto
[10:32] <graig> with gedit.
[10:32] <Shin_Gouki> erick do u know how to use aptitude?
[10:32] <Shin_Gouki> erick it should be inside of that
[10:32] <pepsi> how do i mount an nfs share?
[10:32] <bob2> kikinovak: packages.ubuntu.com lets you search package contents
[10:32] <bob2> pepsi: by adding it to /etc/fstab
[10:32] <erick> shin know, what is aptitude? is just same as apt-get
[10:33] <graig> i tried to use gedit to open the sudoers file, and it says access was denied.
[10:33] <kikinovak> bob2: thanks... I'm quite new to ubuntu, but I really like it, btw. Cheers!
[10:33] <cosimo321> hello all
[10:33] <dReadMoRe> hi my rythm box is saying "Could Not Open Resource for Writing" anyone have any ideia of what is it!?
[10:33] <Shin_Gouki> erick go to shell & type it ull see its kinda software manager on shell
[10:33] <cosimo321> I have installed istanbul onto breezy but can't play the.ogg file. what do I need for this?
[10:33] <Shin_Gouki> erick its cool
[10:33] <pepsi> bob2, ok :)
[10:33] <bob2> graig: uh, duh, sudo gedit /etc/sudoers
[10:33] <brownie17> how do i connect to this channel through konversation?
[10:34] <bob2> pepsi: doubt there's a gnomey way to do it
[10:34] <erick> k shin i already in aptitude program try to search for java
[10:34] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, plz my swap file is stilll...a swap file and not a text tifle..
[10:34] <eythian> you should only edit sudoers with visudo I think.
[10:34] <Shin_Gouki> eythain, good morning!
[10:34] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: that's great
[10:34] <pepsi> bob2, yeah, thats what i was looking for, since i was able to setup a share with a gui app
[10:34] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: it sounds like your file is gone, sadly
[10:34] <pepsi> fstab will do
[10:34] <fraser> hey brownie17
[10:34] <ormandj> night all
[10:34] <cosimo321> How do I play .ogg files on breezy?
[10:34] <brownie17> hey fraser, how's the wife
[10:35] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, failure is not an option!
[10:35] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, failure is not an option! ;)
[10:35] <fraser> brownie17: can't complain
[10:35] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: good luck then
[10:35] <daejavu> hi .. i downloaded a file "true.combat.elite_0.48-english.run.tar" but that tar isnt working on it .. how do i get it working ?
[10:35] <bob2> cosimo321: with any of the music players included
[10:35] <graig> does breezy not ask for sudo password when you try to install software now?
[10:35] <brownie17> fraser, how is ubuntu working for you?
[10:35] <bob2> cosimo321: xmms, cplay, rhtymbox
[10:35] <cosimo321> this is an .ogg video file recorde with istanbul
[10:35] <bob2> cosimo321: if your obscure one no one has heard of doesn't work, find a user list for it, or use a more common one
[10:36] <brownie17> fraser, i am having alot of trouble with burning a cd image
[10:36] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 , ...thx ur beeing...cheerful
[10:36] <pepsi> graig, you have a few minutes to do other stuff after typing the password once
[10:36] <bob2> daejavu: it has no instructions? none at all?
[10:36] <cosimo321> What?
[10:36] <daejavu> bob2, nops ..
[10:36] <cosimo321> OK
[10:36] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: I'm not sure what you expect me to do, I don't have a backup of your file
[10:36] <fraser> brownie17: maybe you should ask someone else in here, they mgiht know.
[10:36] <daejavu> just a plain file :D
[10:36] <bob2> daejavu: what does "file" say it is?
[10:36] <brownie17> brownie17, hmmm
[10:36] <fraser> brownie17: got to go anyway, cya
[10:36] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, may be i expect there to be a command to create txtfile from swapfile?
[10:36] <daejavu> bob2, may this can give u a better idea "http://www.act-of-war.de/aow/download.php?view.3373"
[10:36] <erick> shin under what packages or category java is located? admin games or wjhat
[10:36] <cosimo321> Ok this is a VIDEO file .ogg not audio
[10:37] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: doubt it
[10:37] <bob2> daejavu: no, sorry, not going to go read it for you
[10:37] <Shin_Gouki> how i may verfify if java is installed on my ubuntu system?
[10:37] <bob2> daejavu: what does "file blah" say? (obviously substituting blah for the filename)
[10:37] <erick> shin I guess java is not installed in my ubuntu, I cant find it
[10:37] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: does the "java" command do something?
[10:37] <erick> how can i install java
[10:37] <bob2> cosimo321: that's AWESOME
[10:38] <bob2> cosimo321: install mplayer
[10:38] <Shin_Gouki> erick ask for the apt-get command for java isntall
[10:38] <cosimo321> mplayer doesn't seem to work on my install
[10:38] <hejux> linux just for server
[10:38] <bob2> cosimo321: that's not a useful description of the problem
[10:38] <bob2> hejux: no
[10:38] <cosimo321> I have vlc but that won't play it either yet I know it plays .ogg files
[10:38] <daejavu> when i do a tar xzvf with it .. it says "not in gzip format"
[10:38] <erick> k shin thanks
[10:38] <daejavu> bob2, when i do a tar xzvf with it .. it says "not in gzip format"
[10:38] <bob2> cosimo321: so, stop talking and explain in what way mplayer doesn't work
[10:39] <bob2> daejavu: indeed, but that's not what I asked for
[10:39] <bob2> 18:37:44           bob2 | daejavu: what does "file blah" say? (obviously substituting blah for the filename)
[10:39] <cosimo321> forget mplayer I am concentrating on playin a video .ogg file preferably with vlc
[10:39] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, it seems all in the swp file but its VERY strange coded...any idea how to remove that swp coding?
[10:39] <bob2> cosimo321: that's awesome
[10:40] <bob2> cosimo321: now, install mplayer, and see if it works
[10:40] <cosimo321> what?
[10:40] <cosimo321> I have tried this before it does not work
[10:40] <cosimo321> totem won't and vlc won't oplay the file either
[10:40] <bob2> cosimo321: "does not work" is not a usefu ldescription of the problem
[10:40] <pipoun> what are the errors?
[10:40] <daejavu> bob2, umm what do u need to know then ?   im quite a newbie so plz bare it :D
[10:40] <bob2> cosimo321: now, install mplayer, then show us the errors (if any)
[10:41] <bob2> daejavu: dude, I pasted my question again
[10:41] <cosimo321> what part of doesn't work don't you understand?
[10:41] <bob2> daejavu: "file whatever"
[10:41] <cosimo321> it will not paly the file
[10:41] <cosimo321> play
[10:41] <bob2> cosimo321: for god's sake
[10:41] <bob2> cosimo321: stop being stupid and show us the error
[10:41] <cosimo321> what????
[10:41] <john_> hi... i have a simple question. I want to save /etc/sysctl.conf but it wont let me 'cos it's write protected. How to I save it?
[10:41] <bob2> cosimo321: your guesses about the problem are not useful, I want to see the output from mplayer
[10:41] <bob2> john_: run your editor with sudo; e.g. "sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf"
[10:41] <cosimo321> I don't adn WON"T use mplayer
[10:41] <Shin_Gouki> erick how is it going?
[10:41] <cosimo321> Iuse vlc
[10:42] <john_> thanks
[10:42] <daejavu> bob2, i did "file  true......"   and got in return "POSIX  tar archive"
[10:42] <bob2> cosimo321: that's great
[10:42] <bob2> cosimo321: now, install mplayer, and show us the error (if any) it gives when trying to play your file
[10:43] <cosimo321> there are no errors the app opens then crashed immediately no errors reported
[10:43] <erick> shin what will be my search key to find if java is installed? can I used java world
[10:43] <bob2> cosimo321: that's clearly a lie
[10:43] <cosimo321> what???
[10:43] <bob2> cosimo321: now stop stalling, and install mplayer, then show us the output
[10:43] <bob2> "no errors reported"?
[10:43] <bob2> it doesn't say that it segfaulted?
[10:44] <cosimo321> NO ERRORS REPORTED
[10:44] <cosimo321> it just crashed
[10:44] <bob2> stop it
[10:44] <bob2> you're being useless
[10:44] <bob2> when mplayer segfaults, it tells you *where* it segfaulted
[10:44] <bob2> show us that information, if nothing else
[10:44] <cosimo321> is everyone on medication or something?
[10:44] <pipoun> and after throw yourself in the dustbin
[10:45] <cosimo321> Step by step.
[10:45] <bob2> cosimo321: holy god
[10:45] <pipoun> no it's serious
[10:45] <cosimo321> I recorded a video screen acpture using istanbul
[10:45] <cevizoglu> cosimo321, no, just ubotu
[10:45] <bob2> cosimo321: so, you're being really annoying, and have no idea what the problem is
[10:45] <cosimo321> the files was saved
[10:45] <bob2> cosimo321: if you show us the mplayer output, we can help you
[10:45] <bob2> if you refuse to, we cannot
[10:45] <cosimo321> I then opened it with vlc, totem etc and each app crashed
[10:45] <cosimo321> no errors nothing
[10:46] <pipoun> where do you get the errors?
[10:46] <cosimo321> Ok once again I DO not use mplayer and I will not use mplayer
[10:46] <bob2> cosimo321: I don't care
[10:46] <bob2> cosimo321: none of the others give useful debugging output
[10:46] <bob2> if you're going to refuse to help yourself, there's little anyone can do for you
[10:46] <cosimo321> oh boy what medications are you people on?
[10:46] <cosimo321> have a godd one!
[10:47] <Jedrick> how to disable screensaver?
[10:47] <bob2> seethru: please turn that off
[10:47] <pipoun> what a stubborn!
[10:47] <Tomcat_> Jedrick: Preferences => Screensaver
[10:47] <bob2> he/shw could have had an answer by now
[10:47] <bob2> yay for being a moron
[10:47] <cevizoglu> Jedrick, go to screensavers and select "Disable"
[10:47] <Jedrick> ok thnx
[10:47] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, it seems as i some how get managed in recover mode
[10:48] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, but that mode said , 1 Block could not be read.. how do i avoid this block?
[10:48] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: I said above I have no idea
[10:48] <Shin_Gouki> shell vi textfile Problem, i have a swp file how to revocer textfile from it?
[10:49] <bob2> if I were you, I'd be using strings on the hard disk
[10:50] <Shin_Gouki> erick is java done?
[10:50] <cevizoglu> Shin_Gouki, the swp file **is** your text file
[10:50] <jaydeguia> how will i install apache, mysql and php on ubuntu?
[10:51] <cevizoglu> Shin_Gouki, if not, you've lost your data
[10:51] <erick> shin not yet
[10:51] <Shin_Gouki> cevizoglu, i know! but when trying to recover it says: could not read 1 Block, so i need a switch to turn oit off..how?
[10:51] <cevizoglu> Shin_Gouki, sounds like a hard disk error
[10:51] <erick> when i used the commd sudi apt-get install java
[10:51] <loststryk> roll on the 13th :)
[10:51] <Shin_Gouki> cevizoglu, no i simply deleted the file when i shouldn't ;)
[10:51] <erick> couldn't find packages
[10:52] <ws003> way
[10:52] <Shin_Gouki> erick , ask again poilite and slowly for java install help
[10:52] <Shin_Gouki> erick , to the channel i cant help u with that :/
[10:52] <bob2> jaydeguia: me more specific
[10:52] <claint> open office started to just segfault on my hoary. anyone know of a fix/problem?
[10:52] <bob2> jaydeguia: do you mean a mysql server or the php mysql support package?
[10:53] <cevizoglu> Shin_Gouki, when you try to make a copy of the file, what happens?
[10:53] <Belutz> ubotu: tell erick about javadebs
[10:53] <erick> in your ubunto do you use the bittorent to download files
[10:53] <Belutz> ubotu: tell erick about javadeb
[10:53] <Shin_Gouki> cevizoglu, that worked no prob there
[10:54] <jaydeguia> bob2 - both
[10:54] <cevizoglu> Shin_Gouki, can you view the copy in vi?
[10:54] <bob2> jaydeguia: sudo aptitude install mysql-server php4-mysql libapache2-mod-php4 apache2
[10:55] <jaydeguia> thanks bob2. ill try
[10:55] <kikinovak> Hi. Q: why do TTF fonts look somewhat "smudgier" than on Ubuntu? Like they are smeared or so. I'm puzzled.
[10:55] <kikinovak> (than on Slack. sorry)(
[10:55] <bob2> because you enabled antialiasing?
[10:55] <kikinovak> bob2: in kde yes...
[10:56] <kikinovak> bob2: I checked that
[10:56] <Shin_Gouki> cevizoglu, yes
[10:56] <bob2> ?
[10:56] <kikinovak> bob2: with slack I used luxi sans as main font for kde... and it looks really ugly here
[10:56] <kikinovak> bob2: it's not an AA problem though
[10:56] <bob2> great
[10:58] <Skid>  /w 13
[10:58] <Skid> oops
[10:58] <j-linux> has anyone used XFCE on Ubuntu?  It's great, but I can't get the sound to work.
[10:58] <bob2> sure you can
[10:58] <Shin_Gouki> cevizoglu, what u recommend to do?
[10:58] <claint> is there a wiki that shows  me how to switch my sources.list to the breezy preview stuff?
[10:59] <cevizoglu> Shin_Gouki, what do you mean?  you said you can view the file...
[10:59] <bob2> claint: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[10:59] <Shin_Gouki> cevizoglu, yes but  its "strange coded"
[10:59] <cevizoglu> Shin_Gouki, do mean like UTF-16?
[10:59] <Syruss> hmm
[10:59] <Syruss> ubuntu is loads better than gentoo :p
[10:59] <Syruss> in some way
[10:59] <Syruss> s
[10:59] <claint> bob2: thanks
[11:00] <Shin_Gouki> cevizoglu, dont know il make u a pastebin sec
[11:00] <Syruss> the main way being it's not so out of date
[11:00] <icecream> i need to find the output for dccm. how can i find out where dccm is located? what command do i use for a search?
[11:00] <bob2> "dccm"?
[11:01] <jaydeguia> bob2, it says that it has no package for mysql-server php4-mysql and libapache2-mod-php4
[11:01] <bob2> jaydeguia: it really says exactly that?
[11:01] <icecream> bob2: when i do dccm, there is no output. i guess this means there is something wrong?
[11:01] <bob2> what on earth is "dccm"?
[11:02] <icecream> bob2: it's something necessary for syncing a pocket pc pda to ubuntu.
[11:02] <bob2> ok...
[11:02] <jaydeguia> no candidate for mysql-server
[11:02] <Shin_Gouki> cevizoglu, vi seems ok but when i try xedit i got just this:b0VIM
[11:02] <bob2> why would you assume that "no output" is a problem?
[11:02] <bob2> jaydeguia: /msg ubotu repositories
[11:02] <Shin_Gouki> cevizoglu, just those blocks? alothough the txt file should be big
[11:02] <jaydeguia> couldn't find any package for php4-mysql and libapache2-mod-php4
[11:03] <Shin_Gouki> erick , how is it going with java?
[11:03] <cevizoglu> Shin_Gouki, I'm not sure what's going on at this point... although you might try vim since you know vi.. gotta sleep now
[11:04] <icecream> bob2, because on http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/help.php, it asks me to provide the output for dccm
[11:05] <Shin_Gouki> cevizoglu, infact its seems an VIm backupfile yet incompletet :/
[11:05] <Shin_Gouki> cevizoglu, anyway good night!
[11:05] <BockBilbo> hello
[11:05] <BockBilbo> good morning
[11:05] <pl_ice> hi
[11:06] <BockBilbo> any of you guys have problems with the fonts at some flash sites??
[11:07] <erick> shin sorry, I think my browser has a problem
[11:07] <Shin_Gouki> erick , ur browser? should not be related to java ..?
[11:07] <Shin_Gouki> erick , u still want the link for the torrent client?
[11:08] <BockBilbo> i can't see the fonts on some flash sites ... ive msfonts, gfonts, and gfonts-x11 installed... but i cant still see the fonts ... for example, at http://www.coldplay.com/site.php
[11:08] <erick> shin yes I need that link
[11:09] <Shin_Gouki> erick ,here download : http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ and here some infos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azureus
[11:10] <Shin_Gouki> erick ,i hope u get java to run!
[11:11] <erick> shin im here in http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt and there are 6 choces for java
[11:11] <Shin_Gouki> bob 2, cevizoglu, it was my own mistake the file was opened all the time, then i deleted the file so only the swp existed, problem cleared ;)
[11:12] <Shin_Gouki> erick ,one sec il take a look
[11:12] <daejavu> do we have a True Combat (mod)  player here ?
[11:13] <erick> shin I check the 2nd site that ubotu gave to me this time 3 choices only, I download the three and installed after
[11:13] <erick> the site is http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs
[11:13] <Shin_Gouki> erick ,i would choosee the 65 MB package , just to be sure
[11:13] <erick> k
[11:15] <mhz> hi
[11:15] <robin_> The version I can download now for breezy can be simple upgraded to the release version when it is released?
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> robin_,  yes
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> in fact you will be updated daily
[11:16] <graig> hello. i got this error message when logging into gnome, right after i put in my password.   i got an error when i logged into gnome that says, your $home/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved.  File should be owned by user and have 664 permissions.
[11:16] <mhz> could someone take a look at my dhcpd.conf and tell me whats wrong, please. I have ckecked it 2x times, and still fails :(
[11:16] <robin_> wickedpuppy: ok, thxd
[11:17] <Shin_Gouki> hi somwone know a nice programm to watch svg files from web for ubuntu?
[11:18] <aftertaf> mhz:  what is the pb you're having?
[11:19] <robin_> wickedpuppy: and where Can I download the latests version ? because the one on the offical site is still  from 09-09
[11:19] <mhz> aftertaf: dhcp won't start
[11:19] <robin_> wickedpuppy: this one http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-5/  i guess.
[11:20] <mhz> aftertaf: http://www.tecnocimiento.cl/MauricioHernandez/configs/DhcpdConf
[11:20] <Shin_Gouki> hi! i need a programm to watch svg files from web for ubuntu?
[11:20] <loststryk> tried videolan ?
[11:21] <Hendric> waaaaa
[11:21] <Shin_Gouki> loststryk, talkin to me? uh? how big is that programm?
[11:21] <mhz> aftertaf: syslog claims that is not configured to listen. /default/dhcp says it is configured.
[11:21] <knubbe> anyone who knows why i have problems to enable my eth1 (wireless) card? i see this in my syslog when i try to enable the card: "ipw2200: failed to send TX_POWER command"
[11:21] <loststryk> www.videolan.org then look at the vlc section (the program your4 after)_
[11:21] <aftertaf> mhz:  subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {      arent you missing a closing } somewhere around there?
[11:22] <Hendric> anyone here who can help me?? im trying to install ubuntu on an old DELL optiplex. i got an error during "disk partitioner"...
[11:22] <aftertaf> mhz:  at a guess.... never setup dhcp in nux
[11:24] <Hendric> any help for me?
[11:24] <wickedpuppy> Hendric, if you never say the error .. how we help ?
[11:24] <mhz> aftertaf: i placed the } a couple of lines before, but still nothing :(
[11:25] <erick> shin am I right dpkg+packages name
[11:25] <Shin_Gouki> :( how do i create a txtfile which has the same format under Linux & MS Win?
[11:25] <Hendric> during disk partitioner i got this... ?????????? and below it is <goback>   <continue>
[11:25] <wickedpuppy> Shin_Gouki, .txt is nice
[11:25] <Hendric> and im stuck on that part
[11:25] <wickedpuppy> you can save .doc files in openoffice too
[11:26] <Shin_Gouki> wickedpuppy, idid but wind/linux have diffrent line break...
[11:26] <knubbe> When i try to turn the txpower on ("sudo iwconfig eth1 txpower on") i get: Error for wireless request "Set Tx Power" (8B26) : SET failed on device eth1 ; Input/output error.
[11:26] <wickedpuppy> Hendric, that is the error ?????
[11:26] <wickedpuppy> eh ah
[11:26] <erick> shin are talking about openoffice? just save the file as windows 2000/XP
[11:26] <Hendric> wickedpuppy... it never said anything...
[11:26] <Shin_Gouki> erick , i am talking about vi txt files
[11:26] <Hendric> seems like it doesn't support the old drive.. but i doubt it
[11:27] <erick> ah k sorry,
[11:27] <del> hi all
[11:27] <mahangu> for some reason, gxine wont show the dvd menus
[11:27] <Shin_Gouki> erick , np :)
[11:27] <erick> I think using vi it can recognise by notepad in windows
[11:27] <del> someone from Bulgaria ?
[11:27] <mahangu> and looks a LOT like mplayer
[11:28] <Shin_Gouki> erick , i tried but as ai said above diffrent brak linies, but its not that important
[11:28] <mahangu> how do i get it to show the dvd controls?
[11:28] <Shin_Gouki> hm is mplayer about as good as mpc under windows..?
[11:28] <pawel> I'm running breezy and can't get rid of that bloody notice from update-notifier that I need to restart the computer because of the new kernel. I have restarted my computer, few times, but the bulb and notice keeps appearing.
[11:29] <pawel> I even reinstalled update-notifier, but the same thing happens.
[11:29] <pawel> any clues?
[11:29] <[LethAL] > pawel, You need to boot into the new kernel, I take it you're not using grub?
[11:30] <pawel> [LethAL] : I'm running new kernel.
[11:30] <[LethAL] > Well I don't think you are...
[11:30] <BockBilbo> pawel, have you tried to open the dalog
[11:30] <BockBilbo> and acept the message?
[11:30] <BockBilbo> *accept
[11:30] <mahangu> [LethAL] , gxine wont display dvd menus>
[11:30] <Shin_Gouki> erick , still makin progress with java?
[11:30] <[LethAL] > mahangu, What makes you think I have any clues about DVD?
[11:31] <bob2> pawel: are you sure you'r running the kernel it says you should be using?
[11:31] <Seveas> [LethAL] , maybe you look smart :)
[11:31] <ws003> yes
[11:31] <ws003> no
[11:31] <mahangu> [LethAL] , sorry, my bad
[11:31] <ws003> yes no
[11:31] <pawel> BockBilbo: yeah. of course.
[11:31] <[LethAL] > mahangu, Don't worry :-
[11:31] <[LethAL] > )
[11:31] <ws003> opo kui
[11:31] <mahangu> this is driving me up the wall
[11:31] <mahangu> i had it working on my old install
[11:32] <ws003> i dont mudeng
[11:32] <ws003> you now
[11:32] <ws003> apaaan tuch
[11:32] <Seveas> ws003, stop it
[11:32] <Seveas> this is a support channel go somewhere else for other talk
[11:32] <Seveas> mahangu, what's up?
[11:32] <pawel> bob2: yes, I'm pretty sure. I just checked the packages with dpkg -l |grep linux-image and then uname -a says it's the new one.
[11:32] <ws003> apa lo
[11:32] <mahangu> Seveas, dvd menus wont show up in gxin
[11:32] <mahangu> *e
[11:32] <ws003> kurang gawean ya.
[11:32] <pawel> is
[11:33] <pawel> it's so annoying.
[11:33] <Seveas> ah, sorry, dunno about gxine, I use totem for dvds :)
[11:33] <mahangu> Seveas, totem wont open
[11:33] <mahangu> i have totem-xine installed
[11:33] <Seveas> what's the error?
[11:33] <mahangu> sec\
[11:35] <erick> Ishin how can i install .deb packages? dpkg+package name
[11:35] <Seveas> almost erick
[11:35] <Seveas> sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:35] <Shin_Gouki> erick , sry i use only apt-get for isntall
[11:36] <mahangu_> im in console
[11:36] <mahangu_> x hung on me
[11:36] <mahangu_> totem opens and hangs
[11:36] <mahangu_> Seveas: :)
[11:36] <mahangu_> how can I kill x?
[11:36] <BockBilbo> Seveas, do you have any idea of why couldnt I see some fonts in flash pages using the flashplugin-nonfree, and having msfonts, gfonts or gfonts-11 ?
[11:37] <BockBilbo> maangu
[11:37] <SOMNIVM> killall gdm
[11:37] <BockBilbo> go to tty1
[11:37] <mahangu_> SOMNIVM: thanks
[11:37] <BockBilbo> and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:37] <Kream> how do I get kdm to startup at boot?
[11:37] <Seveas> mahangu, eww :/
[11:37] <BockBilbo> krean
[11:37] <BockBilbo> Kream, sudo dkpg-reconfigure kdm
[11:37] <Seveas> what happens if you run it from the terminal?
[11:37] <mahangu_> operation not permitted
[11:37] <Shin_Gouki> sudo
[11:38] <SOMNIVM> sudo killall gdm
[11:38] <Seveas> BockBilbo, no idea at all
[11:38] <Zeke1> hi, every tiem i restart ubuntu i have to manually set my eth1 to up and reset pppoeconf...how do i get it to do it automatically? can anyone help me?
[11:38] <mahangu_> there we go
[11:38] <BockBilbo> mahangu_, dot kill gdm
[11:38] <BockBilbo> use the stop option in the init.d gdm file
[11:38] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: got it
[11:38] <BockBilbo> ok
[11:39] <mahangu_> any idea why my dvd is messing up?
[11:39] <mahangu_> what's the command to see freespace on a drive?
[11:39] <SOMNIVM> what's the problem with the DVD?
[11:39] <BockBilbo> mahangu, have you installed libdvdcss2?
[11:39] <pepsi> df
[11:39] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: ill check
[11:39] <Cryptid> Which is the latest Version of Wine????
[11:39] <SOMNIVM> 200509xx
[11:39] <SOMNIVM> not sure for the xx
[11:39] <SOMNIVM> :}
[11:40] <knubbe> anyone who can help me to downgrade acpi-support from 0.45 to 0.43? ive tried "sudo apt-get install acpi-support=0.43" without luck
[11:40] <SOMNIVM> it should download the lateset version with apt-get
[11:40] <Cryptid> 200509 huh? i got 222503 how do i update it
[11:41] <bob2> knubbe: get the .deb. install with dpkg.
[11:41] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: ok installed
[11:41] <SOMNIVM> but wine's repositories don't work good for me...I'm downloading at 608bit/s !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:41] <mahangu_> but totem still freezes up, and gxine wont show the menu
[11:41] <SOMNIVM> Cryptid, impossible :)
[11:41] <BockBilbo> can you see the menus with xine for example?
[11:41] <knubbe> bob2: ok.
[11:41] <SOMNIVM> 2005 is the year, 09 is the month
[11:41] <Cryptid> is it?then i will be happy with the thing i have
[11:42] <SOMNIVM> xx is the day of the release
[11:42] <BockBilbo> (from the xine-ui package)
[11:42] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: nope
[11:42] <mahangu_> there is another library i need i think
[11:42] <mahangu_> just getting that as well
[11:42] <Cryptid> then i have the march edition
[11:42] <Cryptid> ne ways i also have cedega
[11:42] <Shin_Gouki> erick , ur going further? made some progress?
[11:42] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: still no luck
[11:43] <BockBilbo> mahangu_, maybe libdvdnav4 ?
[11:43] <Cryptid> SOMNIVM, do u use cedega
[11:43] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: got that
[11:43] <mahangu_> should i reinstall gxine?
[11:43] <SOMNIVM> Cryptid, nope
[11:43] <mahangu_> gxine is also different from what i remember it
[11:43] <mahangu_> the player i remember wasnt inside a window, and had skins, sort of
[11:43] <mahangu_> am i thinking of something else?
[11:43] <Cryptid> SOMNIVM, do u have a cellphone (symbian series 60 phone)??
[11:43] <BockBilbo> and what about the gstreamer0.8-dvd
[11:44] <SOMNIVM> Cryptid, nooo.... I have a Siemens...and it's not a smart phone
[11:46] <knubbe> bob2: do you know the url to any .deb package archive?
[11:46] <erick> sorry shin,
[11:46] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: that's installed too. now totem loads it fine
[11:46] <mahangu_> but no sound
[11:46] <mahangu_> sigh.. :)
[11:46] <BockBilbo> hehe
[11:46] <BockBilbo> check the gstreamer plugins
[11:46] <Cryptid> SOMNIVM, oh ok i actually wanted this smart movie converter for my phone i have the windows version but since i dont have windows i have to get it to work on linux and i dont know how to
[11:47] <BockBilbo> and of course, be sure you are running the sound daemon
[11:47] <SOMNIVM> Cryptid, try WINE, but I'm not sure it will work...
[11:48] <Shin_Gouki> erick , dont give up i know u can make it!
[11:48] <diego> hola
[11:48] <Cryptid> SOMNIVM, i tried it and it didnt work neither did cedega work i says loading stack and then it hangs, so i am in soup because of it
[11:48] <i-x> hello
[11:48] <diego> alguienme ayuda pliss
[11:48] <SOMNIVM> Cryptid, the latest WINE version is 20050930
[11:48] <bob2> knubbe: not for ubuntu
[11:48] <erick> thanks shin
[11:49] <bob2> knubbe: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:49] <pybe> recently did a fresh install of 5.04 on my laptop been working fine for a couple of days, tried asking to hibernate to see if it would work, it did come back up but networking wouldn't work so did init 6 and it wont get past configuring networks now. Only thing I can do is power off. Powering off 3 times ballsed it even more and grub broke, so booted knoppix and fscked the partition which fixed grub but it still wont get past configuring networks...... Any one
[11:49] <pybe>  got any ideas?????
[11:49] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: on my last laptop, i installed a dvd player, it was a skinnable one and worked this fine
[11:49] <bob2> diego: pretty clearly not a spanish channel
[11:49] <mahangu_> any idea what that migh tbe>
[11:49] <BockBilbo> mplayer?
[11:49] <diego> o sorru
[11:49] <mahangu_> diego: try #ubuntu-es
[11:49] <diego> sorry
[11:49] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: no not mplayer
[11:49] <BockBilbo> xine?
[11:49] <mahangu_> xine yes
[11:49] <mahangu_> where can i get a xine UI?
[11:49] <mahangu_> that is not gxine?
[11:49] <BockBilbo> sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[11:49] <Cryptid> SOMNIVM, so i have to unistall my present version before installing the latest version
[11:50] <Cryptid> or can i overrite it
[11:50] <mahangu_> whoops, got it!
[11:50] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: thanks, will see how this goes
[11:50] <SOMNIVM> Cryptid, uninstall....and make a clear install
[11:50] <BockBilbo> mahangu_, :)
[11:51] <erick> shin I got an error i use dpkg -i packages name and this is the error error processing sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+updated04_i386.deb
[11:51] <aftertaf> pybe:  try sudo ifdown eth0
[11:51] <BockBilbo> bob2, do you have any clue of why cant i see some fonts in flash sites using the flashplugin-nonfree ?
[11:51] <BockBilbo> :S
[11:51] <SOMNIVM> but I don't think it will work this time....why don't you try the trial version of crossover office ? It's wine based
[11:51] <mahangu_> aftertaf: lo
[11:51] <erick> short read in buffer_copy
[11:51] <aftertaf> hi screen fan ;)
[11:51] <pybe> aftertaf, it gets stuck in the boot sequence
[11:51] <Syruss> I'd like to install mame and the gxmame frontend on to my ubuntu machine, should I add a new repository to my sources.list (and if so, which) to install via apt, or should I download the source and try installing from that?
[11:51] <i-x> can anyone explain how to compile ndiswrapper? i've tried to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto , but it wont work. Please!
[11:51] <aftertaf> pybe:  remove the dhcp stuff...... loking where ;)
[11:52] <propagandhi> pybe: if you press CTRL+C when its at configuring network, does it get past
[11:52] <Syruss> i-x, be more descriptive 'it won't work' is not good.
[11:52] <diego> hola como me cambio a ubuntu es
[11:52] <diego> ???
[11:52] <pybe> propagandhi, nope all I can d is hold the power button
[11:52] <Belutz> !es
[11:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:52] <SOMNIVM>  diego, debes que escribir /j #ubuntu-es
[11:52] <pybe> propagandhi, the hd act light is v busy at the same time
[11:53] <propagandhi> pybe: what about booting the recovery mode kernel
[11:53] <bob2> BockBilbo: I don't use flash
[11:53] <pybe> propagandhi, behaves the exact same way
[11:53] <BockBilbo> oks bob2 thanks anyway
[11:53] <BockBilbo> :S
[11:53] <pybe> aftertaf, its not set to use dhcp
[11:53] <aftertaf> pybe: what does it use then?
[11:54] <i-x> Syruss: sed: can not read debian/changelog.utils: Map or file does not exist
[11:54] <pybe> aftertaf, gee let me think... er a static ip
[11:54] <i-x> Syruss: (my translation)
[11:54] <i-x> Syruss: (ubuntu post errors in swedish)
[11:54] <aftertaf> pybe:  hehehe.... is it connecting you with an ethernet modem? is it part of your local lan?
[11:54] <propagandhi> pybe: do u have a live cd
[11:54] <pybe> local lan
[11:54] <pybe> propagandhi, several
[11:55] <pybe> propagandhi, using knoppix now
[11:55] <propagandhi> ok, so boot a live cd and mount the ubuntu partition
[11:55] <ubuntu_> helllo
[11:55] <pybe> done
[11:55] <Hendric> can anyone help me install ubuntu on a DELL Optiplex GX1... and why does it halts on "disk partitioner" and shows me ??????????????
[11:55] <propagandhi> ok, can u paster the contents of /etc/network/interfaces
[11:55] <Syruss> hmm
[11:55] <propagandhi> *paste
[11:55] <pybe> one sec
[11:55] <aftertaf> pybe:  if you cant do it via live cd, then remove the NIC and reboot....?
[11:55] <Syruss> not sure i-x
[11:55] <Syruss> :/
[11:56] <aftertaf> Hendric:  how much mem do you have?
[11:56] <Hendric> 128MB
[11:56] <pybe> aftertaf, its a laptop
[11:56] <Hendric> p3 500MHZ
[11:56] <aftertaf> ahh ok. pybe if you deactivate NIC in bios then?
[11:56] <aftertaf> Hendric:  'should' be ok resource wise then...
[11:57] <Hendric> d disk is (as shown on the bios) an EIDE 13GB drive
[11:57] <Hendric> i guess its a problem with the drive..
[11:57] <erick> shin I encounter error
[11:57] <Hendric> because if i press continue on the error prompt... it says.. 'E: unimplimented function"
[11:58] <Hendric> any work around???
[11:59] <Hendric> and one thing.. it complains on ACPI something.. no such device
[12:00] <aftertaf> turn off all Power management stuff in bios...
[12:00] <Hendric> d bios is only one page and doesnt have any power management stuff
[12:01] <aftertaf> that sux. ive got loads of old optiplex at work and i leave them collecting dust.
[12:01] <mahangu> BockBilbo: xine ui works! :) ok now i need a tool to rip to disk
[12:02] <mahangu> dvd to divx?
[12:02] <mahangu> godfather trilogy! :P
[12:03] <BockBilbo> hehe
[12:03] <BockBilbo> mahangu, cant help you with that, sorry
[12:03] <ninotchka> hi
[12:04] <mahangu> BockBilbo: ok np
[12:04] <mahangu> thanks anyway
[12:04] <mahangu> :)
[12:04] <BockBilbo> ;)
[12:04] <BockBilbo> np
[12:04] <aftertaf> mahangu:  mencoder
[12:04] <Hendric> i guess i'll install debian on this...
[12:04] <Hendric> the debian 30MB iso
[12:05] <Jedrick> how to install java
[12:05] <aftertaf> !java
[12:05] <ubotu> well, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[12:05] <Jedrick> k
[12:05] <Belutz> ubotu, tell Jedrick about javadeb
[12:06] <BockBilbo> query ubotu
[12:06] <mahangu> how can i see the amount of free space on a drive?
[12:06] <[LethAL] > fd
[12:07] <mahangu> thanks [LethAL] 
[12:07] <[LethAL] > df*
[12:07] <[LethAL] > mahangu, you might prefer to add the --human option
[12:08] <Jedrick> i do this sudo apt-get install j2rel.4 and i got this error " E: Couldn't find package j2rel.4
[12:08] <Jedrick>  "
[12:09] <mahangu> [LethAL] : how can i see the file/dir sizes in a specific folder?
[12:09] <Belutz> !javadebs
[12:09] <ubotu> Belutz: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:09] <mahangu> ls -al ?
[12:09] <Belutz> !javadeb
[12:09] <ubotu> javadeb is, like, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[12:09] <mahangu> but that shows bytes
[12:09] <mahangu> how can i get mv
[12:09] <mahangu> Mb
[12:09] <Belutz> Jedrick, go  to where ubotu just told
[12:09] <[LethAL] > mahangu, df --human
[12:09] <Jedrick> i did
[12:09] <[LethAL] > mahangu, as for dirs, no idea
[12:09] <Jedrick> thats what i do
[12:09] <Belutz> Jedrick, you have to download the java .deb files
[12:10] <Jedrick> from where?
[12:10] <Belutz> the url ubotu just told you
[12:10] <Belutz> don't you read it?
[12:10] <Jedrick> i told you ive been there and got that error
[12:11] <dasShHh123> hi
[12:11] <dasShHh123> hdeed
[12:11] <dasShHh123> ryhurhrhdrhf
[12:11] <dasShHh123> ryrtdhjfhhtfgjf
[12:11] <tristanmike> dasShHh123, careful, looks like you have some buttons stuck
[12:12] <dasShHh123> putang ina
[12:12] <dasShHh123> yopyhphupptp70t
[12:12] <Belutz> Jedrick, go to http://tinyurl.com/bwomt
[12:12] <dasShHh123> imujjuuujunyuhgihgterthsehthtubhhyr8tydgbthygurrvdyrhdhrhfcyrjydrghtr
[12:12] <dasShHh123> rhgjr9ry9ryr8y99yhujtuj8ybej908buyj8uybjod8rybj89ey
[12:12] <Belutz> Jedrick, where did you go?
[12:12] <Belutz> !ops
[12:12] <ubotu> ops is probably Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[12:12] <tristanmike> goodbye dasShHh123
[12:12] <dasShHh123> yrjmyeykyukyjutujtujmtujykcykcr86l8ll8kt6jt68ly7k
[12:12] <Jedrick> ok
[12:12] <Jedrick> wait i go check
[12:12] <Belutz> Jedrick, you are using hoary or breezy?
[12:13] <Jedrick> hoary
[12:13] <ubuntu_user> I Made A Mistake And Formated Ext3 Part', Now Have No BootLoader, HELP?
[12:14] <BockBilbo> ubuntu_user, use a livecd to restore te mbr
[12:14] <Belutz> Jedrick, ok go to that url i just gave you, download the .deb file
[12:14] <ubuntu_user> I'm on Live-CD and GParted is open, How do i do it ?
[12:14] <Jedrick> ok
[12:15] <BockBilbo> ubuntu_user, did you remove the system partition?
[12:15] <ubuntu_user> I Formated It
[12:15] <Jedrick> there are 3 of them.. which one?
[12:15] <Green_spritze> hi there!
[12:15] <ubuntu_user> And Now There Is no WIn BootLoader Or GRUB
[12:15] <BockBilbo> ubuntu_user, and what do you exactly wat to do?
[12:15] <BockBilbo> oh.. boot win?
[12:16] <Green_spritze> I'm looking howto send an email from the shell using my ISP's smtp server
[12:16] <Green_spritze> with postfix :)
[12:16] <ubuntu_user> i want et list the option to boot from windows XP
[12:16] <BockBilbo> if you want to boot win, yo need to restart the computer with your win cd inside the pc
[12:16] <ubuntu_user> and from there i will use PartitionMagic And Fix it all
[12:16] <rushboy> hello cansomebody tell me where i can find the german Ubuntu help channel ?
[12:16] <BockBilbo> and in the command line write something like RestoreMBR
[12:17] <BockBilbo> you cannot run grub since you have deleted your ext3 partition
[12:17] <BockBilbo> other option is to reinstall ubuntu
[12:17] <ubuntu_user> Fdisk /MBR
[12:17] <wolden> Could anyone be kind enough to help me doing the most basic of things?
[12:17] <Green_spritze> ubuntu_user correct! :)
[12:18] <tristanmike> wolden, just ask :)
[12:18] <ubuntu_user> The Problem That I Have No Floppy Disk!
[12:18] <wolden> ok, to install something, i swear im struggling my head off and i cant get beep media plyer on
[12:18] <BockBilbo> and?
[12:18] <ubuntu_user> And I'm Wreking My Brains How TO Create a WIn98 Boot CD.
[12:18] <ubuntu_user> And I'm Wreking My Brains How TO Create a WIn98 Boot CD.
[12:18] <BockBilbo> ubuntu_user, dont you have a cd drive?
[12:19] <ubuntu_user> Yes
[12:19] <BockBilbo> reboot with the ubuntu install cd and install ubuntu
[12:19] <tristanmike> wolden, did you "sudo apt-get install beep-media-player" ?
[12:19] <tristanmike> wolden, or search it via synaptic?
[12:19] <ubuntu_user> I allsow Have A burner on My Other PC, I Just Dont Know whare i can get the Boot Files So I Can Burn The CD
[12:20] <ubuntu_user> I trayed It, And got into A-loop
[12:20] <ubuntu_user> that was my first choice
[12:21] <ubuntu_user> can ubuntu be Installed on a HD that alredy have premade ext3 partitions ?
[12:21] <BockBilbo> yes
[12:21] <BockBilbo> though, format that partition first, it would be a better choice
[12:22] <ubuntu_user> that is i have the all 3 partitions, system swap, & the other one
[12:22] <BockBilbo> ubuntu_user, you can tell the installer in which partition you want to install ubunt
[12:22] <BockBilbo> *ubuntu
[12:23] <BockBilbo> i gotta go
[12:23] <BockBilbo> bye!
[12:23] <ubuntu_user> i did choos the system ext3 part' but it throw me into a loop
[12:23] <ubuntu_user> so i was not able to install it
[12:23] <monstah> hello.. i can't get the network to run.. i'm using wlan but the installer doesn't seem to recognize it, how do i fix this?
[12:24] <ubuntu_user> but lets say i'll tray it agin, will GRUb put en option agin to Boot WIndows?
[12:24] <BockBilbo> yes
[12:25] <ubuntu_user> OK BockBilbo, i'll give it another go.. Thanck you :}
[12:25] <tristanmike> ubuntu_user, what loop do you speak of? out of curiosity?
[12:25] <ubuntu_user> ty
[12:25] <BockBilbo> u r welcome
[12:25] <BockBilbo> tristanmike, i guess he hasnt configure the ext3 partition as /
[12:25] <BockBilbo> in the installer..
[12:25] <BockBilbo> bye
[12:25] <tristanmike> ahhhh
[12:25] <ubuntu_user> i don't know exactlly how to describe thr loop, i just can go on & install it.
[12:25] <ubuntu_user> the*
[12:26] <ubuntu_user> can't*
[12:26] <ubuntu_user> :)
[12:26] <tristanmike> ubuntu_user, it should be as simple as deleting all partitions *except XP* and let ubuntu do the rest :)
[12:26] <ubuntu_user> hmm.. i see.
[12:27] <ubuntu_user> you know what ...
[12:27] <tristanmike> that's "/" and "swap"
[12:27] <monstah> anyone know how to get a wlan-card to work?!
[12:27] <crashbox> has anyone been able to install vlc on an amd64 breezy install?
[12:27] <ubuntu_user> now that i can see all my partitions fro the GParted utilitie maybe i can to it now, from it?
[12:27] <jarkom27> halo
[12:27] <ubuntu_user> from* :)
[12:28] <mahangu> marlon brando rocks my pants off
[12:28] <mahangu> woo
[12:28] <ubuntu_user> trayed it, it's not letting me do it. i'll tray installing ubuntu..
[12:28] <mahangu> how can i force unmount my dvd-rom?
[12:29] <tristanmike> ubuntu_user, I just used the Ubuntu Partitioner, but should be similar, just make sure you don't wipe out XP ;)
[12:29] <ubuntu_user> yah, sure!
[12:29] <ubuntu_user> i know my XP part is hda1
[12:30] <dinci> my usb stick gets mounted on /media/no_name and not in /media/usbkey. why?
[12:30] <ubuntu_user> ok, ty all :} i'll give it a go. bye.
[12:30] <propagandhi> dinci: check /etc/fstab
[12:31] <supergrover> Is anyone using xfce4, and have to use a password to shutdown their pc?
[12:31] <dinci> i don't think the problem is in /etc/fstab. isn't it a problem with the automounter?
[12:32] <pschulz01> Help... I have hosed my partition table, and probably also my boot sector... the machine is still running.. does anyone know how I can restore these? The system is still running. (Worst case.. I'll backup and install Breezy)
[12:32] <propagandhi> dinci: in /etc/fstab the mount points are defined, is there  one there for the usb?
[12:33] <dinci> i don't have the linux box here - i will check for that
[12:33] <pschulz01> Help, I have trashed 'hda', my partition table and
[12:34] <nrbq> howdy, possums
[12:35] <nrbq> Are there any appies out there for Ubuntu similar to CoolEdit, Adobe Audition, and Cubase?
[12:35] <propagandhi> pschulz01: what happens when you execute cfdisk
[12:36] <aaron_> well, found alot of bugs in breezy... :-/
[12:36] <pschulz01> propagandhi: Free space 80 Gb
[12:36] <propagandhi> what the.. thats crazy
[12:37] <nrbq> does anyone know of any ubuntu apps out there that are like CoolEdit, Adobe Audition, and Cubase?
[12:37] <propagandhi> hang on
[12:37] <pschulz01> propagandhi: But /proc/partitions shows 4 partitions.. so I may be able to rebuild
[12:38] <propagandhi> pschulz01: you will be able to, gimme a tic
[12:38] <pschulz01> propagandhi: It was a 'dd' that went horribly wrong. (hda instead of sda)
[12:38] <propagandhi> ahh ok
[12:38] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , there are
[12:38] <pschulz01> propagandhi: Friends don't let friends drink and dd.
[12:38] <nrbq> Shin_Gouki, can you recommend any?
[12:39] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , sec
[12:39] <propagandhi> pschulz01: ha ha
[12:39] <nrbq> cool
[12:39] <pschulz01> propagandhi: It's one of my more faviourite tools.
[12:39] <propagandhi> pschulz01: have u seen this yet http://www.linux.com/howtos/Partition/recovering.shtml
[12:40] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , muse?
[12:40] <Green_spritze> anyone knows a good textbased mail client ?
[12:40] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , sweep
[12:40] <nrbq> I'll have a look - basically, I compose small pieces of music via midi keyboard (edirol) and external midi controller (edirol), but want to move completely away from MS
[12:40] <amorph> Green_spritze: mutt
[12:41] <Green_spritze> amorph thanks! that was the one I was looking for ... forgot the name ;)
[12:41] <nrbq> Shin_Gouki, have you used any of these? Can you offer any comments?
[12:41] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2001/10/05/snd_partone.html
[12:41] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , check this out
[12:42] <nrbq> just going there now, Shin_Gouki
[12:42] <propagandhi> pschulz01: did u take a look, perhaps gpart or TestDisk will help first, otherwise you can follow those instructions
[12:43] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , usefull ?
[12:43] <sree> hi
[12:44] <sree> how do I dual boot ubuntu wit windows
[12:44] <sree> without destroying my windows partitions ???
[12:44] <Shin_Gouki> sree boot manager
[12:44] <nrbq> Shin_Gouki, I'll read that article. Thanks. Much appreciated
[12:44] <Hobbsee> !dualboot
[12:44] <ubotu> hmm... dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[12:44] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , :) glad to help
[12:45] <nrbq> :)
[12:45] <pschulz01> propagandhi: I'm happy to use 'cfdisk'.. but I'm going to have to reinstall the boot loader.
[12:45] <curious101> hello, anyone have configured a SmartLink modem with Ubuntu?
[12:45] <pschulz01> propagandhi: It's a mac mini.. so it not lilo.
[12:45] <nrbq> y'all be good
[12:45] <nrbq> peace!
[12:46] <curious101> does the "apt-get" command always downloads from the net?
[12:47] <sree> !google ubuntu
[12:47] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, sree
[12:47] <sree> ubotu
[12:47] <Shin_Gouki> curious101 no
[12:47] <pschulz01> propagandhi: What are blocks measured in? cfdisk wants 'sectors' or 'cylinders'.
[12:47] <Shin_Gouki> curious101 no also CD is possible
[12:47] <sree> how do I get grub working
[12:47] <curious101> oh
[12:47] <Shin_Gouki> curious101 manage via sources.list!!
[12:48] <Shin_Gouki> curious101 yes i was surprised too ^^
[12:48] <Shin_Gouki> ubuntu/Linux is .. very cool!
[12:48] <curious101> 'coz ubuntu guide tells me to "sudo dpkg -i sl-modem..."
[12:48] <curious101> and yes it was successful
[12:48] <Shin_Gouki> :)
[12:48] <curious101> however...
[12:48] <Shin_Gouki> still dont work eh?
[12:48] <propagandhi> pschulz01: the formula was on that page wasnt it
[12:49] <curious101> "sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon" would result in an error not found
[12:49] <curious101> since i already extracted the .deb package and put it in the apt-cache
[12:49] <Shin_Gouki> curious101 u have to reformulate ur question , ask here in channel if anyone knows sources for that desierd package!
[12:50] <curious101> i just wondered why "apt-get install sl-modem-daemon" won't work
[12:51] <pschulz01> propagandhi: Sorry.. didn't get message with instruction location.
[12:51] <supergrover> anyone use xfce4 in breezy?
[12:51] <Shin_Gouki> erick, got ur java runnig?
[12:51] <curious101> oh, sorry Shin. so I should be downloading that sl-modem-daemon package from the ubuntu archives?
[12:51] <Shin_Gouki> supergrover, i use icewm?
[12:51] <Shin_Gouki> curious101, try to do so
[12:51] <supergrover> don't worry, just wanted to check something about xfce4
[12:51] <propagandhi> http://www.linux.com/howtos/Partition/recovering.shtml
[12:52] <curious101> ok, thanks...i'll be back and report the results
[12:52] <pschulz01> propagandhi: Thanks.
[12:54] <aftertaf> !ops
[12:54] <ubotu> ops is, like, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[12:55] <aftertaf> :)
[12:55] <Seveas> meh, the script kiddies woke up again
[12:55] <Hendric> where do webcams get mounted????
[12:55] <aftertaf> Hendric:  they clip onto the monitor usually.... ;)
[12:55] <Seveas> nowhere
[12:55] <Seveas> and that :)
[12:55] <Hendric> aftertaf, ow.. physically yes..
[12:55] <kemik> why's this network so plagued by bots ?
[12:56] <Hendric> aftertaf, in ubuntu where does it mount?
[12:56] <aftertaf> nowhere... its not a disk device
[12:56] <Hendric> i've had a near perfect system now... webcam is all i need last
[12:56] <Seveas> kemik, because MS infected all windows pcs with software that plagues open source and open source supporting projects
[12:56] <Hendric> ah... should i say location???
[12:57] <aftertaf> lol Seveas 1+1=2 ?
[12:57] <Hendric> /dev/webcam?
[12:57] <kemik> Seveas:  hehe, well yea ;) but i dont see these kind of troubles on other nets such as Efnet etc.. .
[12:57] <kemik> it's as if freenode has lesser security or sth
[12:57] <Seveas> you can't really prevent this
[12:58] <Seveas> it's a huge botnet
[12:58] <Seveas> and for some reason the kiddie behind it thinks it's a good idea to target freenode
[12:58] <Hendric> i've got DVD playin, mp3, mp4, wma, all of them, i can view webcam yahoo thru gyach (fixed).. openoffice.. and all
[12:58] <kemik> i c... well prevention: ban windoze ;)
[12:58] <Hendric> now i need to get my webcam broadcast.. any ideas about its /dev location?
[01:00] <Grant_> Hendric: mine uses /dev/video0 its just a cheap 8pound cam :)
[01:01] <Hendric> i got a webcam made in china with a windows driver that will install on all kinds of webcam and screws d driver database...
[01:01] <Hendric> very cheap very destructive webcam indeed
[01:02] <SteveA> hi.  my father (who is a retired linguist) just asked me if breezy supports chinese.  any experience with this?
[01:02] <Shin_Gouki> LOL
[01:02] <SteveA> he currently uses windows
[01:02] <Shin_Gouki> destructive webcams i might be afraid of this ^^
[01:02] <SteveA> mostly in english, but uses chinese websites, sends email in chinese, write chinese MS word docs.
[01:02] <Shin_Gouki> steveA
[01:02] <Shin_Gouki> Linux supports all languages
[01:03] <Hendric> Shin_Gouki, you should be! if you installed its driver on your system.. you won't make your CAM to work anymore.. trust me
[01:03] <Shin_Gouki> ubuntu even chinese
[01:03] <SteveA> i know getting chinese to work on debian takes a lot of work
[01:03] <ccooke> SteveA: there's good language support in Linux in general
[01:03] <kbrooks> 1.8gb ....
[01:03] <kbrooks> not much
[01:03] <SteveA> getting the input methods sorted
[01:03] <SteveA> new fonts
[01:03] <ccooke> SteveA: there are language packs on ubuntu
[01:03] <Shin_Gouki> steveA, yes lots of work but it is possible! try to use unicode as often as possible!!
[01:03] <SteveA> my father lives in a different country to me
[01:03] <Shin_Gouki> SteveA, yes lots of work but it is possible! try to use unicode as often as possible!! There are so many possibilitys
[01:03] <ccooke> SteveA: tell you what - I'll stick the chinese input method on here and see how easy it is
[01:03] <SteveA> and has never used linux before
[01:03] <Hendric> hey Shin_Gouki, any ideas on a distro for my DELL optiplex (old)
[01:04] <Hendric> ubuntu won't install and halts on partitioner..
[01:04] <SteveA> ccooke: cool
[01:04] <Hendric> that sucked.
[01:04] <topyli> SteveA: isn't reading websites just a matter of fonts? we do have those
[01:04] <Shin_Gouki> Hendric, yes use ubuntu like me! im ATM at a P233 , 128 MB ram
[01:04] <ccooke> SteveA: ... looking *very* easy.
[01:04] <Hendric> Shin_Gouki, it won't continue after the disk paritioner.. wondering wats wrong
[01:04] <Shin_Gouki> Hendric, u need net acess about 4 GB HD space LOTSS of patience the rest will be ok
[01:04] <Grant_> Or you could try and debian it and then upgrade to ubuntu :/ i've seen it done but dunno how neat it is..
[01:05] <Grant_> thats if debian will install :/
[01:05] <ccooke> SteveA: got breezy now?
[01:05] <kbrooks> Grant_: only on woody ;)
[01:05] <Hendric> my disk is 13GB... d PC is fast enough.. but it won't partition...
[01:05] <SteveA> ccooke: sounds good.  i guess i need to grab my breezy laptop and try it out.
[01:05] <Grant_> ah
[01:05] <Shin_Gouki> Hendric, i used new HD :/ askk here in challen for install support
[01:05] <SteveA> ccooke: nope, still hoary on this workstation.  breezy on laptop.
[01:05] <ccooke> SteveA: System -> Administration -> Language selector.
[01:05] <Hendric> k
[01:05] <Shin_Gouki> Hendric, if HD was empty, NTFS... etc..
[01:05] <kbrooks> Grant_: woody is so old that everything will be replaced anyway
[01:05] <ccooke> SteveA: that'll install all the packages you need.
[01:06] <Grant_> kbrooks: ah i didnt know what ver you could do that on :/
[01:06] <Hendric> Any install support for my old DELL with 13GB EIDE drive?? stalls on partitioner.. any helpful install parameter???
[01:06] <ccooke> SteveA: then, on System -> Preferences -> Keyboard, you need to add the Chinese keyboard layout.
[01:06] <SteveA> ccooke: that's great.  i'll try it when i have my laptop with me.
[01:06] <ccooke> SteveA: And you'll probably want the language selector applet for the panel. I think that'll do it.
[01:07] <ccooke> SteveA: That works for Hebrew, at least (my wife's Israeli), and this process installs bidirectional support in openoffice.
[01:08] <ccooke> SteveA: Ah, no. Chinese input is more complicated.
[01:08] <ccooke> SteveA: gimme a few more minutes
[01:08] <pschulz01> propagandhi: Thanks for your help. It was a good read. I'm going to reinstall anyway.
[01:08] <kbrooks> test
[01:08] <ccooke> SteveA: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25412
[01:09] <ccooke> SteveA: that's hoary. Breezy may be simpler.
[01:09] <ccooke> SteveA: just looking...
[01:13] <pilgrim_executer> does anyone know how to get ALSA working in windowmaker? or any sound at all for that matter
[01:13] <topyli> just looked at the default theme after a long time. breezy artwork is pretty nice!
[01:13] <Bateau_> how can i login as root?
[01:14] <topyli> !root
[01:14] <ubotu> hmm... root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:14] <eythian> In firefox, I used to be able to have a URL in the clipboard, and middle-click on the page and it would go to that URL. Now that doesn't seem to work. Any ideas why?
[01:14] <Belutz> has anyone successfully install netbeans in breezy?
[01:14] <ccooke> SteveA: actually, the language selector alone does almost everything you need.
[01:15] <topyli> eythian: yeah, i miss that too
[01:15] <ccooke> SteveA: I'm not sure about a chinese input method, but that looks pretty easy to install.
[01:15] <eythian> topyli, when did it go away?
[01:15] <pilgrim_executer> the middle click works for me
[01:15] <SteveA> ccooke: thanks for your pointers.  i'll give it a go.
[01:16] <SteveA> if it works out, i'll encourage my father to try breezy
[01:16] <topyli> eythian: dunno. i thought i only had to miss it because i've been using epiphany :)
[01:16] <Magist3r> hello
[01:16] <eythian> It used to work for me in FF, I'm sure.
[01:17] <topyli> eythian: yes, even in ye olde mozilla it did
[01:17] <pilgrim_executer> can i start alsa from a terminal?
[01:17] <eythian> yeah. Wonder how I can get it back...
[01:17] <Magist3r> sorry,i have problems whith ubuntu live,i boot from cd,then it says that can't find the cdrom,the pc is a notebook travelmate 4152 whith pci express,what kind of module i must use?
[01:17] <Magist3r> ty for help
[01:18] <aftertaf> pilgrim_executer:  what do ou mean, start alsa?  youcan modprobe the alsa mod for your card, and soundcore too...
[01:18] <eythian> ahah, in about:config there is an option middlemouse.paste Unfortunately, it's marked true, and it doesn't work :(
[01:18] <aftertaf> Magist3r:  look in /media    can you get your cdrom that way?  is it mounted?
[01:19] <topyli> eythian: i found it in ephy too just now. doesn't work
[01:19] <Magist3r> aftertaf, wait i open a shell
[01:19] <aftertaf> eythian:  maye in X your middle mouse button is mapped to sth else and it blocks FF.
[01:19] <eythian> No, I just worked it out.
[01:19] <eythian> about:config and change middlemouse.contentLoadURL to true
[01:19] <topyli> aftertaf: my middle click pastes stuff everywhere else, but not in ephy
[01:20] <Magist3r> aftertaf, i have in / the dir cdrom
[01:20] <Magist3r> but is not mounted
[01:20] <aftertaf> Magist3r:  and in /media ?
[01:20] <Magist3r> i not have any media directory
[01:20] <Magist3r> you means mnt?
[01:20] <pilgrim_executer> aftertaf: holy shit, i need the dumb ass award - my stereo was not turned on, lol! sorry hehe
[01:21] <topyli> Magist3r: /cdrom should be link to /media/cdrom
[01:21] <Stricklin> For some reason, I'm having problems installing wine
[01:21] <aftertaf> lol pilgrim_executer :)   it happens :)
[01:21] <eythian> Stricklin, how are you trying to install it?
[01:22] <Stricklin> eythian, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[01:22] <Stricklin> from the console
[01:22] <Magist3r> topyli, i not have any media dir
[01:22] <pef> hello
[01:22] <eythian> Stricklin, OK. I did that today, and it worked fine for me.
[01:22] <Stricklin> hmmm
[01:23] <eythian> just add deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/ to your sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get install wine and away you go
[01:23] <topyli> Magist3r: then your filesystem is either broken or custom :)
[01:23] <Magist3r> is an ubuntu live
[01:23] <Stricklin> I did those, but wine never shows up
[01:24] <topyli> Magist3r: ah, well then i don't know
[01:24] <Stricklin> Oh well, I need to move to Breezy anyway
[01:25] <eythian> have a look through synaptic or something?
[01:25] <[A] ndy80> I've a problem with my toshiba laptop and Ubuntu Breezy: when I suspend to ram or when system suspend itself to ram if I leave it on standy, I cannot resume it anymore :( I've to keep the power button pressed, and power on again... is it a fix available?
[01:25] <Dreamglider> i just installed ubuntu 5.04 from internet last night. if i follow the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes on updating ubuntu to 5.10 how much will be downloaded ?
[01:25] <topyli> Stricklin: where should it show up? no "wine" binary? what does 'which wine' say?
[01:25] <Stricklin> in Synaptic, no wine package
[01:26] <aftertaf> !info wine
[01:26] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[01:26] <[A] ndy80> DreaManiac: if you just installed, why don't you get 5.10 preview and install it?
[01:26] <Stricklin> at the console, it gives an error
[01:26] <topyli> Stricklin: you haven't updated
[01:26] <aftertaf> Stricklin:  you enabled universe?
[01:26] <eythian> Stricklin, well? what's the error?
[01:26] <Stricklin> Yes, and no
[01:26] <eythian> aftertaf, the Ubuntu wine is crazy old.
[01:26] <eythian> well, fairly old, anyway
[01:27] <Stricklin> bah, gotta go to work, I'll mess with this later
[01:27] <Stricklin> thanks anyway
[01:27] <topyli> huh? there's an xwine package too. what does a wine gui do?
[01:28] <eythian> topyli, I think it's for configuration or something
[01:28] <topyli> eythian: such as winesetuptk?
[01:29] <topyli> ah, "It provides an interface for configuring and running MS-Windows applications". so it's a runtime tool
[01:29] <eythian> hmm OK
[01:32] <tristanmike> good night all :)
[01:32] <Bateau_> does someone here know about ejabberd? and can help me out? im trying to configure it to work with our companys existing AD users.
[01:32] <Stricklin> back
[01:33] <Stricklin> What does Ign http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Release.gpg mean?
[01:33] <Hobbsee> Stricklin: for some reason, the two newest versions of wine arent on that server...
[01:34] <Stricklin> Then, I get the error: "Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package wine has no installation candidate"
[01:34] <topyli> Stricklin: maybe they don't have a release.gpg file there. apt doesn't regard it an error and ignores it
[01:35] <chuck_gr> what is the latest available version of wone?
[01:35] <chuck_gr> wine even
[01:35] <topyli> Stricklin: missing packages on the other hand, seem to count as errors :)
[01:35] <Stricklin> hmmm
[01:36] <topyli> wine XP
[01:36] <mahangu> e
[01:36] <aftertaf> !info cowsay
[01:36] <ubotu> cowsay: (A configurable talking cow), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 3.03-6 (hoary), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 268 kB
[01:37] <mahangu> aftertaf, it's cool ill find it later
[01:37] <mahangu> i gotta go study now
[01:37] <Stricklin> I'm able to build it from source
[01:38] <Stricklin> So, I guess that's what I'll do... while I'm at work :)
[01:39] <brownie17> !grub
[01:39] <ubotu> somebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:39] <aftertaf> lol
[01:39] <Dreamglider> is amaroK any good ?
[01:40] <brownie17> Dreamglider, it is all reall preference
[01:40] <topyli> Dreamglider: i've heard about people who use it
[01:40] <topyli> so i guess
[01:41] <Dreamglider> how can i enable mp3 support ?
[01:41] <topyli> Dreamglider: in kde i don't know. in gnome, install gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:42] <Seveas> !mp3
[01:42] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[01:42] <eythian> Dreamglider, I found amaroK to be awesome.
[01:43] <eythian> although now I'm using Rhythmbox, because I'm trying out the Gnome thing.
[01:44] <Seveas> hmm, let's get another bot in here and let them battle each other :)
[01:45] <topyli> yeah, a question bot
[01:45] <brownie17> how do i change the order of the options in Grub?
[01:46] <chuck_gr> edit the grub config file
[01:46] <topyli> brownie17: you could change their order in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:46] <topyli> by editing very carefully and making a backup
[01:47] <thux> Hi, just noticed that I have tmpfs twice in breezy when I do df -h?
[01:47] <topyli> thux: so do i
[01:47] <thux> never seen that before in linux
[01:48] <chuck_gr> i dont
[01:48] <topyli> thux: seems to be mounted on a device, plus a module. news to me
[01:48] <thux> topyli: ok
[01:49] <topyli> thux: /dev/shm doesn't seem to require very much though :)
[01:49] <pawel> has anyone come across a problem when rhythmbox doesn't want to open playlist files while accessing them from other applications (e.g firefox)
[01:50] <topyli> pawel: do you mean net radio streams and such, or what sort of files?
[01:50] <pawel> topyli: yeah.
[01:51] <topyli> some time ago, i had totem and rb fighting over them and they were left unopened. i never solved it
[01:51] <topyli> except by explicitly opening rb and pasting the URL to it
[01:52] <pawel> topyli: when a .pls file is associated with rhythmbox, the player starts, but doesn't load the playlist.
[01:52] <topyli> pawel: yes, i heard it was totem's fault. are you using hoary?
[01:52] <kbrooks> wtf is dbus
[01:53] <pawel> topyli: no, breezy.
[01:53] <topyli> pawel: strange. let me see, i thought i never had this problem on breezy. i'll check
[01:54] <pawel> and it seems like it's not a firefox fault, I doesn't even work when I drag'n'drop a file to rhythmbox.
[01:54] <pawel> a file, I mean a playlist file, didn't check a regualar mp3 file.
[01:55] <bimberi> kbrooks: http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/dbus
[01:56] <pawel> I can go for bmp or xmms, but it's not the point, I really like rhythbox and have been using it for ages.
[01:57] <topyli> pawel: copy a link from somafm.com, open rb, choose "new station", and paste. works for me
[01:57] <robertj> where can I find a complete list of all boot paramaters on the Breezy Live CD?
[01:59] <pawel> topyli: yeah, but why don't you try to associate the playlist with rb and let firefox open rb on its onw
[01:59] <pawel> topyli: this doesn't work.
[01:59] <topyli> pawel: no it doesn't
[02:00] <topyli> bugzilla time i guess. btw i used epiphany but i don't think it makes a difference here
[02:00] <pawel> it's stupid, it should. It used to work like this in Slackware, Fedora or even from scratch.
[02:01] <ksmurf> I have added a script called powernowd to /etc/modprobe.d but it didn't load...... how do I update startup so it will?
[02:01] <pawel> topyli: I'm just going to build rhythmbox from scratch and see if it's rhythbox fault
[02:02] <bob2> ksmurf: you mean /etc/ini.td?
[02:02] <topyli> pawel: the bug could be somewhere in gnome mime-fu depths of weirdness as well
[02:02] <ksmurf> yes bob2
[02:03] <bob2> ksmurf: you know powernowd is already in ubuntu, right?
[02:03] <Mic_hael> writing a French text with accents and everything is horrible with my keyboard layout problem... I have to use the Character map tool! If anyone would be so kind to look at the details of this problem (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70926), that would be great...
[02:04] <Mic_hael> (and yes, writing a French text is horrible even without this problem...)
[02:04] <aftertaf> Mic_hael:  what is the problme?
[02:05] <thenuke> Mic_hael: blah, just skip the accents :)
[02:05] <ksmurf> what I need is to be able to have p4-clockmod loaded b4 powernowd starts
[02:06] <anivair> morning?
[02:06] <thoreauputic> thenuke: French without accents is like a woman without kisses! *grin*
[02:06] <anivair> excellent
[02:06] <Shin_Gouki> LOL
[02:06] <Mic_hael> well, with 5.04 I could use dead keys for accents
[02:06] <Shin_Gouki> funny... ;)
[02:06] <Mic_hael> I have a inspiron 5100 with a us qwerty keyboard
[02:06] <Mic_hael> since I upgraded to breezy, no more dead keys
[02:06] <aftertaf> ahh oki
[02:06] <Mic_hael> and I can't find how to change it
[02:07] <aftertaf> ksmurf:  use webmin to change order at boot.
[02:08] <ksmurf> aftertaf webmin?  but right now p4-clockmod is not even getting loaded
[02:08] <ksmurf> until I do it manually?
[02:09] <pawel> topyli: how can I see/edit mime types in gnome? I tried to change by clicking on a playlist file, but it doesn't allow me to remove current entries, I can add new, but not remove/see rhythbox and totem settings.
[02:09] <aftertaf> use update-rc.d ksmurf to add it
[02:10] <Shin_Gouki> hi anyone idea for a programm to view svg files under ubuntu?
[02:10] <topyli> pawel: no idea, i'll try and look around in gconf-editor
[02:12] <ksmurf> aftertaf so I would type sudo modprobe p4-clockmod and then update.rc.d?
[02:13] <tenshiKur0> hey, all .. wondering if someone can help with something...
[02:13] <tenshiKur0> try to revert to a clean install of apache2
[02:14] <aftertaf> nope.... ksmurf sudo update-rc.d ..... adds a script in /etc/init.d to the start sequence. look in /etc/init.d see if no script for p-clockmod
[02:14] <tenshiKur0> had it working fine previously, made some adjustsment (wasn't broken, tried to fix it)... and now, it's not listening on 80... or it appears as though something else, which doesn't make sense, as i know there's nothing else installed and set to
[02:15] <aftertaf> ksmurf:  man update-rc.d ...... is quite well written
[02:16] <pawel>  i've created an account on bugzilla but it didn't send me my password yet. :/
[02:16] <ksmurf> k thanks
[02:17] <aftertaf> but if you get stuck, ask ;)      the -n switch modifies nothing, just shows you what it would have done...
[02:19] <pawel> topyli: did you find anything?
[02:19] <irvin> what cd/dvd burning app is available for ubuntu using gnome?
[02:20] <topyli> pawel: there are similar bugs. however, the best i've found so far talks about pls files not working at all (not the case with us), and m3u files working ok
[02:21] <bimberi> irvin: nautilus (the file manager) can do data cds/dvds, otherwise there's gnomebaker and graveman
[02:21] <eythian> irvin, if you pop a blank CD in, it should pop straight up with a burning program. Doesn't work so good for DVDs tho, I found.
[02:21] <Mic_hael> Here's more information about that keyboard problem I have... http://users.skynet.be/fb375180/Screenshot.png Note how it says I have 101 keys (I only have 85 or so) and that I can't add a new layout!
[02:21] <irvin> thanks bimberi. eythian
[02:22] <bimberi> irvin: yw :)
[02:22] <siimo> will gnome 2.12.1 make it into breezy ? later as an update or something
[02:22] <irvin> siimo, yes
[02:22] <irvin> it's already in breezy
[02:22] <siimo> cool
[02:23] <tiefox> anyone has any experience using banshee to send songs to an Ipod shuffle ?
[02:23] <topyli> pawel: ah. #14517, "opening a .pls will not result in rb playing the stream"
[02:23] <kikinovak> Hi. My Ubuntu install went A-OK. Near to perfect. One thing puzzles me. I have no sound. lsmod shows ens_1371 OK. Setting in alsamixer seem ok too. Do things work differently under ubuntu? My user is even in the 'audio' group, so it can't be that...
[02:23] <kikinovak> BTW I have Kubuntu, not Ubuntu.
[02:23] <topyli> pawel: marked as an upstream bug, so you won't win by building rb yourself either
[02:23] <eythian> kikinovak, volume up? Make sure it's not muted.
[02:24] <kikinovak> eythian: in alsamixer?
[02:24] <pawel> topyli: yeah, I found it, #14517.
[02:24] <eythian> kikinovak, yeah
[02:24] <kikinovak> sec
[02:25] <rjordan> tenshiKur0, so you're not listening on port 80? Are you sure apache is running?
[02:25] <pawel> topyli: wait, xmms and bmp pick the playlists properly.
[02:26] <topyli> pawel: totem too. i want rhythmbox! :)
[02:26] <eythian> topyli, code up a patch :)
[02:26] <pawel> this sucks!
[02:26] <pawel> ;)
[02:26] <pawel> s/i want/we want/
[02:26] <pawel> !
[02:26] <pawel> ;>
[02:26] <ubotu> pawel: I give up, what is it?
[02:27] <topyli> eythian: might as well add stream support to muine too, while i'm at it :)
[02:27] <DanglyBits> how can i get the 32 bit versions of mozilla-firefox and flash to work together in breezy 64?
[02:27] <Kris_k> lmao the AI in HL2 on cedega is speeded up just a bit ?
[02:27] <eythian> topyli, sounds like a plan!
[02:28] <pawel> topyli: this muine wants mono. :/
[02:29] <DanglyBits> anyone....how can i get the 32 bit versions of mozilla-firefox and flash to work together in breezy 64?
[02:29] <topyli> pawel: that's all right, i'm using beagle and tomboy anyway
[02:30] <atripathi> does usage of HT feature of Intel depend on the OS ?
[02:31] <eythian> atripathi, I think it kinda does. I think the OS has to be HT aware (or maybe it just has to treat it like SMP)
[02:31] <rjordan> atripathi, eythian, AFAIK it's an SMP thing.
[02:32] <pawel> topyli: with muine it still doesn't work. :>
[02:32] <topyli> pawel: the stream? muine doesn't support streams at all
[02:33] <topyli> pawel: if it did, it would be a killer
[02:33] <curious101> hi again
[02:33] <topyli> pawel: but the author doesn't want to support it
[02:33] <goh> Helloo
[02:33] <curious101> is there a GUI dialer for GNOME?
[02:34] <BockBilbo> hello again
[02:34] <monstah> hello.. :) i can't get higher resolution than 1024x768 on my screen... how do i fix this? =)
[02:34] <goh> Gnome ppp
[02:34] <pawel> topyli: sad. :/
[02:34] <aftertaf> monstah:  edit your xorg.conf file
[02:34] <monstah> aftertaf: where can i find that one?
[02:34] <monstah> i'm new to this :)
[02:34] <curious101> i'm having a hard time using that "pon" command
[02:34] <JackTorrence> Is there a stable release of Breezy yet or is Hoary still the stable vers?
[02:34] <aftertaf> /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[02:35] <Ng> JackTorrence: the stable release of breezy is scheduled for the 13th
[02:35] <aftertaf> monstah:  ^^^ edit it with sudo to gve you rights.....
[02:35] <BockBilbo> sound-juicer crashes when i try to open the option dialog on it when logged as usual user (works as root). I think it has something to do with the config files of it. i get a bounch of errors of this kind:  (sound-juicer:12618): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_file_system_get_volume_for_path: assertion `path != NULL' failed
[02:35] <aftertaf> !X
[02:35] <ubotu> aftertaf: What?
[02:35] <JackTorrence> 13th Oct?
[02:35] <aftertaf> !x
[02:35] <ubotu> aftertaf: Syntax error in line 1
[02:35] <Ng> JackTorrence: yes
[02:35] <BockBilbo> like some null values that should be there...
[02:35] <curious101> is gnome ppp like kppp?
[02:35] <samu2> Anyone else have trouble with firefox crashing sometimes when you open links that need to be downloaded or opened in an external program?
[02:36] <topyli> pawel: banshee doesn't either, otherwise it's another piece of great mono code. like a rhythmbox that handles cd's, ipods, ripping, burning...
[02:36] <monstah> aftertaf: yeh =) thnx
[02:36] <atripathi> aftertaf.........see this is the solution. modify xorg.conf  to this.......
[02:36] <atripathi> Section "Monitor"
[02:36] <atripathi>         Identifier      "PHILIPS 107E"
[02:36] <atripathi>         Option          "DPMS"
[02:36] <atripathi>         HorizSync       30-71
[02:36] <atripathi>         VertRefresh     50-160
[02:36] <atripathi> EndSection
[02:36] <aftertaf> monstah:  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   (make a backup first)
[02:36] <atripathi> the Identifier is set by default so dont edit that
[02:36] <goh> curious101: I'm not sure
[02:36] <JackTorrence> samu2, yup I have that prob with firefox
[02:36] <atripathi> yeah and do make a backup
[02:37] <samu2> JackTorrence, are you running breezy yet?
[02:37] <JackTorrence> samu2, nope Hoary
[02:37] <goh> curious101: for me I connect by gg system>>adiministration>>networking
[02:37] <JackTorrence> aftertaf, you having prob with display?
[02:37] <samu2> JackTorrence, ah me too. Maybe we'll be saved in a week then.
[02:38] <curious101> @goh: is that the one with the activate thing?
[02:38] <Gwildor_> Shin_Gouki, hello?
[02:38] <eythian> goh, there is a 'modem monitor' panel applet, which is probably more convenient than the menus.
[02:38] <monstah> aftertaf: should i just change the "Modeline" ?
[02:38] <atripathi> also to know your monitor's strength execute this..     sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[02:38] <goh> curious101: that's what I use
[02:38] <goh> eythian: where's the applet?
[02:39] <curious101> @goh: where's the CONNECT button there?
[02:39] <eythian> right-click on the panel at the top, go to 'add to panel', scroll down to modem monitor
[02:39] <no-one-rus> i have problems with my usb irda
[02:39] <no-one-rus> can anybody help me
[02:40] <atripathi> which  is the best tool  for using pppoe efficiently ?
[02:40] <atripathi> everytime i need to plog to see the status
[02:40] <pawel> topyli: ok, I've got bmp and I'll be watching that bug.
[02:40] <goh> curioys101: It's "activate" button
[02:40] <atripathi> and manually ping to check if the connection is on
[02:40] <pawel> topyli: I'm unable to fix, but will switch back, once it's done.
[02:41] <aftertaf> atripathi:  rp-pppoe i found better that pppoe, pppoe seems a bit broken when setting up dsl-provider file
[02:41] <curious101> @goh: yeah, but after activating, what do you do next to connect?
[02:41] <paulproteus|lapt> aftertaf: How do you pick which you use, pppoe vs. rp-pppoe?
[02:41] <atripathi> aftertaf...I use ppoeconf to setup my pppoe. Then issue pon dsl-provider command to activate it
[02:42] <atripathi> i installed pppoe separately which is a package in synaptic but it clashed with the configuration and didnt find a few lines compatible
[02:42] <goh> eythian: It caused some problems when the connection was broken off, so I stop using it
[02:42] <no-one-rus> what i must do to make my irda active
[02:42] <atripathi> i uninstalled it and still using pppoeconf  and pon dsl-provider etc
[02:43] <aftertaf> paulproteus|lapt:  i got the .deb from their website for rp-pppoe....
[02:43] <eythian> goh: OK. I don't use a modem, so never tested it.
[02:43] <curious101> can you post a sample of the results of "pon"?
[02:43] <kikinovak> eythian: I looked around a bit, and found the problem. ALSA is apparently configured for my onboard card. Now is there some way to manually configure ALSA (with Slackware this was feasible with 'alsaconf'), so I can select the correct card?
[02:43] <no-one-rus> Help me
[02:43] <no-one-rus> ANY RUS???
[02:43] <aftertaf> monstah:  i dont actually know for that, im sorry..... google for resolution Xorg stuff and you'll find what you need to put in there...
[02:43] <topyli> pawel: yes, lacking a fix, we use workarounds :(
[02:43] <aftertaf> !ru
[02:43] <ubotu> aftertaf: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:43] <eythian> kikinovak, hah, I had exactly the same problem. My solution was to turn off the on-board card.
[02:43] <DanglyBits> anyone....how can i get the 32 bit versions of mozilla-firefox and flash to work together in breezy 64?
[02:44] <epic___> kikinovak, have you tried turning the onboard card off in the BIOS?
[02:44] <goh> curious101: U can't tell. U need to right click on panel, add panel and add network nonitor
[02:44] <kikinovak> eythian: er... how would I do that? (I'm a Slackware veteran, where _everything_ had to be worked out by hand... now this automatic stuff confuses me a bit:oD)
[02:45] <intelikey> k  anyone know where apt keeps its information on cd drives (mount point in particular) ?
[02:45] <curious101> ok, thanks goh
[02:45] <eythian> kikinovak, I turned it off in the BIOS. I'd like to be able to have it on tho, I use the onboard for VoiP and the PCI for music.
[02:45] <kikinovak> intelikey: yeah... in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:45] <intelikey> kikinovak nope not there.
[02:45] <eythian> When I used Debian I had to manually switch them around each boot.
[02:45] <kikinovak> intelikey: apt-cdrom add?
[02:45] <curious101> i'm downloading gnome-ppp and gnome-dial to see if they fit my needs
[02:45] <nadroj> is there a way to enable window shadowing in ubuntu?
[02:46] <intelikey> done tried that too kikinovak
[02:46] <goh> How do I set sypnatic such that it will look 4 my Hoary cd in my cdrw instead of my cdrom?
[02:46] <kikinovak> eythian: and no way to configure alsa manually?
[02:46] <kikinovak> eythian: I'll check that out _now_ ... see ya
[02:46] <intelikey> it adds the disk just fine and then tries the old mount point kikinovak
[02:46] <eythian> kikinovak, in Debian there was alsaconf, I don't know if that's in Ubuntu or not
[02:46] <anivair> goh: you can always just temporarily alias cdrom
[02:47] <kikinovak> intelikey: sec
[02:47] <goh> anivair: Hmmm... how do i do that?
[02:47] <intelikey> eythian yes alsaconf is ub standard also
[02:47] <kikinovak> intelikey: you're right... it's not in sources.list
[02:47] <intelikey> i know.
[02:47] <Kris_k> lmao the AI in HL2 on cedega is speeded up just a bit ? Also when coming out of hl2 the res on my desktop is messed
[02:47] <anivair> goh: well, i'd copy cdrom to cdrom_backup and then make cdrom a symbolic link to cdrw (assuming that cdrw exists)
[02:48] <curious101> gnome-ppp is like kppp
[02:48] <misieq> hi there!
[02:49] <curious101> is it safe to mount my ntfs partitions and have write access from Ubuntu?
[02:49] <misieq> how do i do mouse right click on mac running ubuntu live??
[02:49] <no-one-rus> Help me with irda
[02:49] <no-one-rus> !!!
[02:49] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[02:49] <Hobbsee> !irda
[02:49] <Skid> !irda
[02:49] <ubotu> Hobbsee: What?
[02:49] <Skid> heh
[02:49] <Hobbsee> lol
[02:49] <no-one-rus> !irda
[02:50] <no-one-rus> ;;;;;
[02:50] <Skid> !infrared
[02:50] <ubotu> Skid: Bugger all, i dunno
[02:50] <Skid> !infra red
[02:50] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Skid
[02:50] <Skid> hm
[02:50] <Skid> !google
[02:50] <ubotu> Not a clue, Skid
[02:50] <Skid> heh
[02:50] <Seveas> curious101, no
[02:50] <Seveas> it's not even possible
[02:50] <Skid> I thought beta writing was in 2.6 ?
[02:50] <Skid> (obv if you want to destroy your ntfs partition)
[02:51] <Seveas> you can overwrite an existing file with sometghin gof the exact same length
[02:51] <Seveas> in other words: useless
[02:51] <curious101> oh, so ubuntu guide tells us to mount but with read only access?
[02:51] <Chousuke> yes.
[02:51] <Seveas> ubuntuguide sucks
[02:51] <Chousuke> you could use the captive drivers.
[02:51] <Seveas> !tell curious101 about ubuntuguide
[02:52] <Seveas> !tell Chousuke about captive
[02:52] <Chousuke> but they're non-free, non-native and in general not really recommended.
[02:52] <nadroj> is there a way to enable window shadowing in ubuntu?
[02:52] <Skid> mmm can you do tell me ?
[02:52] <curious101> !faq
[02:52] <ubotu> it has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[02:52] <no-one-rus> irda..................
[02:52] <Skid> !tell me about ubuntuguide
[02:52] <Skid> ooh cool
[02:52] <Skid> :)
[02:52] <no-one-rus> !fuk
[02:52] <ubotu> I don't know, no-one-rus
[02:52] <curious101> hehehe, thanks all
[02:52] <[LethAL] > !tell nadroj about composite
[02:53] <no-one-rus> !tell me about irda
[02:53] <misieq> how do i do mouse right click on mac running ubuntu live??
[02:53] <no-one-rus> stupid
[02:53] <Skid> hmm !faq in PM to the bot, doesn't work?
[02:53] <Seveas> no-one-rus, language...
[02:53] <no-one-rus> rus
[02:53] <Seveas> Skid, in pm you don't need the !
[02:53] <intelikey> sorry, i got bumped off line.
[02:53] <Skid> ahh, ok cheers
[02:53] <Skid> right time for a malteaser smoothie :p
[02:53] <nadroj> thanks LethAL
[02:53] <[LethAL] > np
[02:54] <no-one-rus> kill me by irda
[02:54] <no-one-rus> !kill me by irda
[02:54] <ubotu> no-one-rus: Are you on ritalin?
[02:54] <[LethAL] > LOL
[02:54] <intelikey> did anyone find a way to change cd mount points ?      or is it hard coded into apt as /cdrom ???
[02:54] <Seveas> no-one-rus, if you don't stop playing with the bot you will be banned
[02:55] <Seveas> intelikey, /etc/fstab
[02:55] <no-one-rus> so tell me about irda in ubuntu
[02:55] <no-one-rus> plz
[02:55] <intelikey> Seveas yes....   duh   but apt still looks in /cdrom
[02:55] <FlangeR> Q: What do the ubuntu community consider the best password manager at the moment?
[02:55] <Ng> a brain ;)
[02:56] <[LethAL] > intelikey, make /cdrom a symlink
[02:56] <Seveas> FlangeR, revelation
[02:56] <Seveas> intelikey, which apt command?
[02:56] <epic___> goh,   have you tried to add the cd in the dvd drive through symantec?
[02:56] <no-one-rus>   
[02:56] <intelikey> Seveas apt-setup    apt-get .....
[02:57] <eythian> no-one-rus, I don't think many people know about irda...I haven't used it for a while myself.
[02:57] <Seveas> man apt.conf has some info...
[02:58] <brosio> anyone known a guide to set up cups on ubuntu ?
[02:58] <w-mute> Hi, folks. Anybody else experiencing problems with the font in gnucash?
[02:58] <Seveas> brosio, system -> admin -> printing
[02:59] <intelikey> Seveas ok.    i'll give that a look.    can't do it from here though.    thanks.
[03:00] <Skid> hm this edubuntu - be good for a net cafe?
[03:00] <Skid> i seem to remember some chap askin aobut it a few days ago
[03:00] <Seveas> Skid, /join #edubutu
[03:00] <Seveas> they can give much better info
[03:01] <Seveas> #edubuntu i mean
[03:01] <Skid> ah, wasn't for me - just to refer to him when (if) he comes back in :)
[03:01] <Seveas> well, refer him to #edubuntu then ;)
[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> does anyone know which package the 'lockfile' program is in? i cant find it on one of my boxes
[03:03] <Hendric> any suggestions for installing ubuntu on a DELL Optiplex GX1... with 13GB HD, and stalls during partitioner.
[03:04] <rjordan> Kamping_Kaiser, I googled and found that it's in the base dist AFAICT
[03:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. ok. thanks
[03:04] <pawel> brb
[03:06] <[LethAL] > ubotu, no, explore2fs is to get read/write access to your Linux ext2/3 partitions from windows, see http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:06] <ubotu> [LethAL] : okay
[03:07] <g14> Does anyone know how well abiword supports MS Office exporting?
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc not well
[03:07] <g14> I have my little sister running hoary and she loves it. However, OO.o is a beast to startup on her slow machine and she doesn't like it.
[03:09] <elvstone> short question: breezy == 5.10?
[03:09] <Hobbsee> elvstone: yes
[03:09] <mvirkkil> elvstone: yes
[03:09] <elvstone> sweet.
[03:09] <elvstone> thx.
[03:09] <eythian> hmm. There's an annoying UI bug in gnome.
[03:09] <Amaranth> release in 7 days, hopefully
[03:09] <Amaranth> eythian: what's what?
[03:09] <Hobbsee> g14: the late betas and the RC of open office 2 are considerably faster than the originals
[03:10] <g14> Hobbsee: I am using the latest from www.openoffice.org
[03:10] <elvstone> nice, i'm starting up a book shop and ordered 20 CDs to have there for people to take. i'll be opening the shop on 15 November.
[03:10] <eythian> On the panel at the top, you can have the mouse hard against the top and acess the menus and buttons fine, but not the system tray icons. They have a 1px border.
[03:10] <Hobbsee> g14: ah ok, i didnt think it took that long to open OOo 2
[03:11] <mvirkkil> eythian: Works for me
[03:11] <aftertaf> g14:  there is KWord too, not bad
[03:11] <[LethAL] > eythian, so they do...
[03:11] <g14> heh, gnome only
[03:11] <Amaranth> eythian: it "snatches defeat from the jaws of victory"
[03:11] <eythian> it's like having 90% of Fitt's law :)
[03:11] <eythian> yeah
[03:11] <g14> I script everything using gconf
[03:11] <mvirkkil> eythian: No wait it doesn't. Yeah, I'd say it's a bug.
[03:12] <eythian> OK. What would I file it against?
[03:12] <eythian> gnome-panel?
[03:12] <dravine> hello everyone
[03:12] <dravine> is there an up to date list of the ubuntu repositories?
[03:13] <Seveas> !repos
[03:13] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:13] <dravine> the hoary-extras seems to have vanished on me
[03:13] <Seveas> ah crap
[03:13] <Seveas> !sources
[03:13] <ubotu> sources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[03:13] <Hobbsee> they've changed
[03:13] <dravine> I know
[03:13] <dravine> they've done so 2 or 3 times in the last month
[03:13] <Skid> how do you actually become a mirror?
[03:13] <Amaranth> i think hoary-extras is gone
[03:13] <Seveas> !no repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[03:13] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[03:13] <Seveas> Amaranth, really>
[03:14] <Seveas> i though it was just the unofficial backports
[03:14] <Hobbsee> hoary-extras still worked, as of this afternoon - wasnt coming up with a 404 error
[03:14] <Amaranth> the unofficial backports is gone, i doubt anyone wants to mirror just the illegal stuff
[03:14] <Hobbsee> ie a few hours ago
[03:14] <dravine> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-extras/
[03:14] <Seveas> Amaranth, the -extras has more than just the illegal stuff
[03:14] <dravine> that's the url I had before for the extras
[03:15] <Seveas> dravine, that has NEVER been the url for hoary-extras
[03:15] <dravine> was it at mirrormax before?
[03:15] <Skid> illegal stuff? :o
[03:17] <asbjxrn> What packages do I need to get a working gcc installation?
[03:17] <eythian> !be
[03:17] <ubotu> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:17] <dravine> build-essential
[03:17] <Skid> build-essential has all what you'd need
[03:17] <asbjxrn> thanks.
[03:18] <eythian> *sigh* reportbug has a bug.
[03:18] <dravine> what's the debian-marillat repos have in it?
[03:19] <kikinovak> eythian: you still there?
[03:19] <kikinovak> eythian: you still there?
[03:19] <eythian> kikinovak, yeah
[03:19] <kikinovak> eythian: I fiddled around a bit, and I have an idea for the two soundcards...
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> any idea where to look on a server for these lines (3 line flood)
[03:20] <eythian> oh?
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> # RSYNC_DIR is the directory given in the "Packages over rsync:" line of
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> # the mirrors file for the site you have chosen to mirror.
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> # (mandatory)
[03:20] <kikinovak> eythian: the idea is write a rule for UDEV so the correct soundcard gets the first device name
[03:20] <eythian> ah.
[03:20] <eythian> kikinovak, let me know if you figure out the rule :) udev is still black magic to me
[03:20] <kikinovak> eythian: only I don't know what device nodes are for soundcard...
[03:20] <kikinovak> eythian: well I know udev well
[03:21] <kikinovak> eythian: a look in /dev, there is dsp and dsp1
[03:21] <kikinovak> eythian: and then we have several nodes in /dev/snd
[03:21] <kikinovak> eythian: which one is the right one?
[03:22] <kikinovak> eythian: what I want to say: which node is supposed to be the default sound device here?
[03:22] <kikinovak> eythian: back in 1 min
[03:22] <eythian> hmm. Tricky.
[03:23] <eythian> I think you'd have to experiment to work it out.
[03:23] <eythian> or look in  /proc/asound/cards, that might help
[03:23] <Frafra> hi all
[03:23] <Frafra> i must convert a ogg into a mp3 on breezy for amd64
[03:23] <Frafra> who can help me?
[03:23] <imc_> Hey, under breezy, which repository do I need for sun-j2re1.5?
[03:24] <eythian> Frafra, why would you do that?
[03:25] <Frafra> eythian: i must put the file on my... I don't know the english for it, but it's something likes ipod
[03:25] <kikinovak> eythian: stay around... I look for the solution and I'll let you know when something comes up
[03:25] <eythian> Frafra, ahh, OK.
[03:25] <imc_> Hey, under breezy, which repository do I need for sun-j2re1.5?
[03:26] <eythian> kikinovak, I'm going to bed soon. If I remember, I'll ask when I next see you online.
[03:26] <ccooke> imc: It's not in any due to license restrictions, but it is installable
[03:26] <imc_> um...
[03:26] <[LethAL] > !tell imc_ about javadeb
[03:26] <[LethAL] > :-)
[03:27] <ccooke> [LethAL] : damn, beat me to it :-)
[03:27] <Frafra> who can telp me?
[03:27] <imc_> Thanks LethAL and ccooke; former for doing it and latter for thinking of it :)
[03:27] <[LethAL] > Hehe
[03:27] <[LethAL] > Frafra, at least one of us will
[03:27] <Myrtti> let me dish out my crystal ball
[03:28] <asbjxrn> Has anyone compiled openmotif or know where I can get a precompiled package for it?
[03:29] <Frafra> mm... shoul I compile lame for amd64?
[03:29] <ccooke> Frafra: simplest way is probably to install lame (which is an mp3 encoder)
[03:29] <ccooke> Frafra: lame is installable via apt
[03:29] <Frafra> ccooke: apt-get doesn't found it
[03:29] <eythian> Frafra, you could look at mp32ogg, see how it works and reverse the logic.
[03:29] <ccooke> Frafra: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories?
[03:29] <Frafra> ccooke: yes
[03:30] <ccooke> Frafra: lame is in multiverse.
[03:30] <Frafra> ah, thanks
[03:30] <eythian> ok, bedtime
[03:30] <Frafra> i haven't multiverse, only universe :)
[03:31] <nrbq> howdy
[03:31] <Frafra> !extrarepository
[03:31] <nrbq> Does anyone here use sweep? (successfully)
[03:31] <ubotu> Frafra: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:31] <ccooke> Frafra: okay. do an apt-get update
[03:31] <Frafra> !multiverse
[03:31] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[03:31] <Frafra> !repositories
[03:31] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[03:31] <Frafra> thanks a lot
[03:31] <nrbq> Or does anyone use Ardour?
[03:32] <ccooke> Frafra: you'll have oggdec installed.
[03:32] <occy> Seveas, wtf?
[03:33] <occy> Seveas, a simple message would do you don't have to kick people out of the channel.  Play nice.
[03:33] <kikinovak> Question for all the cracks here. I have two sound cards here, one onboard, one PCI, respectively card0 and card1 in /proc/asound/cards. Big question: how do I find out which sound device each one is corresponding to?
[03:33] <nrbq> Can anyone suggest why Audacity works fine, but Sweep just produces a hiss?
[03:33] <occy> Seveas, I didn't add "spam"  I added some tips and tricks.
[03:34] <kikinovak> nrbq because sweep works with oss by default, AFAIK
[03:34] <kikinovak> nrbq: compiled it on my slack, and it gave me a hard time until I grasped OSS is default.
[03:35] <kikinovak> nrbq: check out the cvs version... gtk2 ... nice!
[03:37] <Frafra> can I compile a program for windows from breezy for amd64?
[03:38] <[LethAL] > !info mingw32
[03:38] <ubotu> mingw32: (Minimalist GNU win32 (cross) compiler), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.2.20040916.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 9925 kB, Installed size: 43536 kB
[03:38] <[LethAL] > Frafra, ^^
[03:38] <Frafra> thanks :)
[03:38] <nrbq> kikinovak, I honestly don't understand what that means. Is oss an audio driver?
[03:38] <[LethAL] > Frafra, I've never used it though
[03:39] <nrbq> I just noticed that both claim to be using /dev/dsp, but one works and the other doesn't
[03:39] <Zeke1> hi, every tiem i restart ubuntu i have to manually set my eth1 to up and reset pppoeconf...how do i get it to do it automatically? can anyone help me?
[03:39] <Seveas> occy, you added a link to your personal site. That is spam
[03:40] <monstah> howto install fonts without having to do "xset +fp dir/" everytime you want to use them?
[03:41] <occy> Seveas, I've never done anything in the past, I don't have a history, I simply did not know.  A warning would have sufficed.
[03:42] <Seveas> occy, this was a warning...
[03:42] <occy> Seveas, I won't use the bot again you can be asured of that.
[03:42] <occy> Seveas, Someone else told me I could play with it in #debian-bots  I guess that person was wrong.
[03:42] <occy> Seveas, thanks for the kind and  helpful attitude.
[03:42] <Seveas> you can use/play with it, but adding spam is something you should not do
[03:43] <Seveas> just as your attitude now
[03:43] <occy> Seveas, adding tips and tricks I didn't know was spam.
[03:43] <occy> Seveas, Yes, I'm kinda pissed
[03:43] <occy> You don't kick people for that.
[03:43] <occy> I wasn't abusive in the channel, I went where I was supposed to.
[03:43] <Seveas> yes, spammers are kicked
[03:43] <occy> I didn't spam the channel.
[03:43] <aftertaf> talk via keyboard leads to getting worked up too much over something better let go.
[03:43] <Seveas> spamminf the bot is just as bad
[03:43] <occy> anyway, this subject is OT
[03:44] <aftertaf> if you want to continue, go offtopic.....
[03:44] <occy> Seveas, get off your high horse
[03:44] <Seveas> stop attacking people personally..
[03:44] <Myrtti> how about you two move to /msg?
[03:45] <nrbq> kikinovak, can you give me more advice on oss? I don't understand what that is - is that an audio driver?
[03:45] <nalioth> monstah: drop any ttf font you like into your ~/.fonts directory (you may have to create it)
[03:48] <sambagirl> test'
[03:48] <g14> OSS == Open Sound System. It is a deprecated sound system  succeeded by ALSA
[03:49] <g14> Alsa was developed by SUSE and is now in the kernel
[03:49] <Frafra> i've installed lame
[03:49] <Frafra> when i play the .mp3 file
[03:50] <Frafra> i heard only some rumors, for 2 second (the .ogg file is 10 sec.)
[03:50] <anivair> for the record, I prefer OSS to ALSA.  Much less trouble
[03:50] <nalioth> sambagirl: bonita
[03:51] <g14> technically, alsa is superior. oss still has it's place as also doesn't do multiple outputs very well. That is why a sound daemon like esd or arts is needed unfortunately
[03:51] <nrbq> is anyone able to advise on how I can get Sweep working?
[03:51] <nrbq> Audacity plays fine from /dev/dsp, but Sweep just produces a hiss
[03:51] <Frafra> good, lame don't convert from ogg, but from wav :D
[03:52] <anivair> technically, you're right.  but in practice ALSA never works right on my ubuntu system and OSS does.
[03:52] <anivair> or at least that's the case with xmms
[03:52] <nrbq> anivair, what can you tell me about oss? Is that a sound driver?
[03:52] <g14> Thats because xmms is old. Use beep-media-player, much much better
[03:52] <bloodnik> Is missing graphics in breezy a known?
[03:53] <g14> the lead dev of bmp tried to port xmms to gtk2 and the xmms devs refused
[03:53] <anivair> beep is fine, but doesn't play well with streamtuner, which is one of my favorite apps ever
[03:53] <Seveas> bloodnik, graphics of what?
[03:53] <g14> Kind of like xfree86 vs x.org. the x.org authors refused innovation so the project forked into a much better
[03:53] <bloodnik> My show desktop and wastebasket graphics are red-x things
[03:54] <anivair> nrbq: oss is not a driver, it's a service.  it's what makes sound go in older linux systems (and has, as stated, been replaced by ALSA, though we are currently debating the goodness of alsa in a fanboyish way)
[03:54] <g14> bloodnik: What theme are you using?
[03:54] <topyli> nrbq: oss is the open sound system, used to be standard on linuxen, but is now in the process of being obsoleted by alsa
[03:54] <anivair> huh . . . I guess he didn't want to hear my answer
[03:54] <topyli> hrmpf
[03:54] <bloodnik> g14: One that worked before I upgraded
[03:54] <anivair> some peopel are so impatient
[03:54] <anivair> and can't google
[03:54] <bloodnik> I mixed and matched theme aspects
[03:54] <Seveas> hmm, that might be due to a gnome issue I've seen before, can you post a screenshot of your system at the pastebin please
[03:55] <g14> bloodnik: you didn't answer my question :)
[03:55] <g14> bloodnik: ok, thats the problem. What icon theme is it?
[03:55] <anivair> g14: I think he means that he is using a heavily modified version of a theme, so it's basically his own
[03:55] <bloodnik> Clearlooks
[03:56] <ghb> I would like to change some behaviour of when I close the lid. I
[03:56] <g14> bloodnik: thats odd, I use clearlooks window and widget theme with redhat's bluecurve icons on my breezy box. I don't have any problems
[03:56] <bloodnik> ...
[03:56] <bloodnik> I just changed to Human and they came back, and Clearlooks vanished.
[03:57] <bloodnik> Vanished from the list _
[03:57] <g14> that really sucks
[03:57] <bloodnik> OK well it was that. Never occurred to me. Cheers
[03:57] <zeroverse> so beep media player > xmms?
[03:57] <g14> correct
[03:57] <topyli> oh no, not another kernel update
[03:57] <ghb> Hey. How do I change the behaviour of when I close the lid on my laptop? The lid.sh and libtn are empty... =(
[03:58] <g14> zeroverse:  the lead dev of beep wanted to improve xmms but the xmms devs argued with him and were not helpful. They forced him to fork
[03:58] <Seveas> zeroverse, yeah
[03:58] <g14> Plus, beep uses gtk2 so it integrates soooo much better with the rest of gnome on an ubuntu system
[03:58] <dodgyville> Hi. Does anyone know a good How-To for upgrading from hoary to breezy?
[03:58] <anivair> I wonder if I can make beep work with streamtuner . . . if so that would solve all my problems
[03:59] <topyli> g14: who dared he suggest improvements on xmms? it is the same forever and ever :)
[03:59] <bloodnik> Hmm... even Human has a missing graphic. It's the "Go to computer location" button in Nautilus
[03:59] <g14> dodgyville: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:00] <dodgyville> apt-get keeps giving me unknown error executing gpgv errors
[04:00] <g14> dodgyville: change hoary to breezy everywhere and then save it
[04:00] <Ubunti_Ki> here? :) ok
[04:00] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: welcome
[04:00] <g14> dodgyville: then do: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:01] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: remember to set up your client so you dont end up in -unregged any more
[04:01] <Ubunti_Ki> I know its a risk, but how do I allow Root to Log-in at start up Screen?
[04:01] <dodgyville> gl4: Thanks, but apt-get update gives me "unknown error executing gpgv" errors.
[04:01] <zeroverse> cool, yeah i like beep better already
[04:01] <g14> no no no. root is evil
[04:01] <Ubunti_Ki> set up my client? How nalioth?
[04:02] <topyli> Ubunti_Ki: if you want to be root, you should know how to do it .)
[04:02] <Ubunti_Ki> Anyone?
[04:02] <g14> dodgyville: something is the matter with the signature of the packages you get? Maybe you need to reinstall it
[04:02] <anivair> Ha!  I CAN make streamtuner with with beep.
[04:02] <anivair> I'll get on that right now
[04:03] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: i told you in -unregged
[04:03] <anivair> assuming beep will take the %q variable
[04:03] <thoreauputic> anivair: you can make streamtuner use any player actually
[04:03] <anivair> yeah, I wasn't so sure.  I just got it a while ago (weeks).  haven't played with it too much yet
[04:03] <anivair> I just listed to frensh pop music
[04:03] <thoreauputic> anivair: I use it with beep no problems
[04:03] <anivair> french, even
[04:03] <g14> dodgyville: apt-get install --reinstall gpgv
[04:03] <topyli> thoreauputic: except rhythmbox. tis b0rken :(
[04:03] <anivair> cool, thanks
[04:03] <thoreauputic> topyli: ah
[04:03] <zeroverse> so xmms skins will work with beep eh?
[04:04] <thoreauputic> zeroverse: yup
[04:04] <thoreauputic> so will winamp skins
[04:04] <thoreauputic> well, winamp 2 skins anyway
[04:05] <Ubunti_Ki> I dont know what you mean nalioth. Why should I end up in unregged if I just regged myself?
[04:06] <spiral> hi
[04:06] <Ubunti_Ki> hi
[04:06] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: your client can identify to services on joining the network. if you have your password in the "nickserv" field in your server dialog, it can wait too long to identify you and you'll end up in -unregged
[04:06] <Ubunti_Ki> Ok
[04:06] <Seveas> ehrm
[04:06] <Seveas> Ubunti_Ki, the *server password*, not the *nickserv password*
[04:06] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: do put your password in the "server password" field, and you'll always end up in here
[04:07] <voth> is it pos. to run xfce under ubuntu
[04:07] <Whistler> voth yep
[04:07] <Seveas> voth, apt-get install xfce4
[04:08] <Seveas> ehrm wrong
[04:08] <Ubunti_Ki> nalioth, i did put now my passwd in there, but theres "connect command" what should i write in there?
[04:08] <Seveas> voth, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:08] <Seveas> Ubunti_Ki, nothing :)
[04:08] <voth> ok
[04:08] <[LethAL] > We have xubuntu now? O.O
[04:08] <Ubunti_Ki> ok, so its done now? nothing more to be fixed?
[04:08] <Seveas> Ubunti_Ki, yup
[04:08] <Ubunti_Ki> thankz
[04:09] <Frafra> xubuntu?
[04:09] <holycow> what is the name of the new wireless applet in breezy? doesn't seem to be installed by default
[04:09] <nrbq> hello
[04:09] <[LethAL] > Frafra, Ubuntu with the xfce environmentment I'd assume
[04:09] <dodgyville> gl4: it won't let me reinstall, it says I need to run apt-get update first :( http://au.archive.ubuntu.com is my server, could this be the problem?
[04:09] <nrbq> can anyone help me on installing Ardour?
[04:10] <Frafra> [LethAL] : yes, but this name it's new for me :D xubuntu... lol :D
[04:10] <zeroverse> any tips on getting azureus to not take up over 400MB of memory?
[04:10] <Ubunti_Ki> I think that in 5.04 you could change  grub and allow root login in some menu, but cant find those in 5.10 . am I right?
[04:10] <[LethAL] > Frafra, new for me too
[04:10] <nrbq> apt-get says it doesn't know anything about it (although the Ardour page explicitly listed apt-get install arour)
[04:10] <nrbq> ardour, I mean
[04:10] <Seveas> Ubunti_Ki, it's in the config of gdm
[04:10] <thoreauputic> !info ardour
[04:10] <Seveas> !info ardour
[04:10] <Seveas> dang
[04:10] <Ubunti_Ki> Under?
[04:10] <Whistler> is it worth to install antivirus software?
[04:11] <thoreauputic> no such package
[04:11] <Seveas> !info ardour breezy
[04:11] <sproingie> why does ubuntu-minimal depend on jfsutils when most people don't even run jfs?
[04:11] <nrbq> Seveas, thanks, but I think it's going to be a mean one. :)
[04:11] <Ubunti_Ki> which menu Seveas?
[04:11] <Seveas> no menu
[04:11] <thoreauputic> !info ardour-gtk
[04:11] <ubotu> ardour-gtk: (digital audio workstation (graphical gtk interface)), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9beta22-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1585 kB, Installed size: 5688 kB
[04:11] <nrbq> If I could get Sweep working I'd be at least half way to where I need to be
[04:11] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:12] <Ubunti_Ki> But there where a menu before, do you know some in 5.10?
[04:12] <nrbq> ah, so that's how it has to be referenced!
[04:12] <Seveas> if you need a menu for that, I don't believe you're a unix consultant
[04:12] <thoreauputic> nrbq: when in doubt, apt-cache search <package>
[04:13] <nrbq> thoreauputic, good tip - thanks, I'll try to remember that
[04:13] <thoreauputic> nrbq: :)
[04:13] <nrbq> thanks, thoreauputic!
[04:13] <nrbq> It's installed! :)
[04:13] <thoreauputic> nrbq: no worries :)
[04:14] <nrbq> Now, I just need to figure out how to start JACK and I'll be on my way
[04:14] <thoreauputic> nrbq: now the fun begins - do you have jackd installed?
[04:14] <nrbq> jackd -D didn't work
[04:14] <nalioth> nrbq: call him
[04:14] <Ubunti_Ki> If I need a menu, dont need it. But need to remember Seveas.
[04:14] <nrbq> yeah, it seems to be
[04:14] <nrbq> nalioth, :)
[04:14] <nrbq> perhaps this is part of my Sweep problem
[04:14] <nrbq> dunno
[04:15] <thoreauputic> nrbq: sweep doesn't need jack
[04:15] <thoreauputic> nrbq: it might be an esd problem though
[04:15] <[LethAL] > languag- oh, wait :P
[04:15] <Ubunti_Ki> further more, no hazzle but i was Consult at SUN, not at Ubuntu.
[04:15] <nrbq> thoreauputic, then I think I'm screwed on many levels. :)
[04:16] <nrbq> I don't know anything about sound under Linux
[04:16] <thoreauputic> nrbq: I never worked jack out here - but I kind of gave up to be honest: I had it working with rosegarden4 though
[04:16] <Ubunti_Ki> Sometimes its childis to have to explain that im doing other stuff in life than only linux. And sometimes I forget thing. So I can ask you guys who competes whos the best in Linux. LOL
[04:17] <nrbq> hmmm....what I'm aiming to do is get away from CoolEdit and cubase and just use Linux tools (if possibl)
[04:17] <nrbq> I've got a feeling it might be tough
[04:17] <nrbq> For example, Audacity works fine - right from the start
[04:17] <thoreauputic> nrbq: ardour looks scary ;-)
[04:17] <nrbq> Says it's using /dev/dsp for output - but so is Sweep and all I get there is a hiss
[04:17] <nrbq> Yeah, it does look pretty heavy!
[04:17] <nrbq> :)
[04:18] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq, hey
[04:18] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq,  ur sound programm ok? did u find something usefull?
[04:18] <thoreauputic> Ubunti_Ki: it isn't a competition here - more a co-operation I'd say :)
[04:19] <sproingie> putting something down as childish ... then proceeding to punctuate one's sentence with "LOL"
[04:19] <Ubunti_Ki> But i have not got my answer, just against my quest
[04:19] <Ubunti_Ki> I think you dont know my answer and thats why you play smart.
[04:19] <zeroverse> any web developers here?  What is the most powerful editor for linux in your opinion? (I'm coming from Dreamweaver MX)
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> emacs
[04:19] <[LethAL] > LOL
[04:19] <thoreauputic> Ubunti_Ki: time to get your l33t google skilz in action then ;-)
[04:20] <zeroverse> emacs good with php?
[04:20] <nrbq> Shin_Gouki, hey! How's it going?
[04:20] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i install Firefox 1.5 Beta? via apt-get command?
[04:20] <tombs> hi ppl
[04:20] <dbzdeath> sproingie: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lol it is in the dictionary even... therefore it is the same as any other abbreviation... not childish
[04:20] <[LethAL] > zeroverse, nvu is quite nice as a WYSIWIG editor, emacs is text
[04:20] <Ubunti_Ki> Yes thoreauputic :)
[04:20] <nrbq> I'm getting there with the sound stuff
[04:20] <nrbq> thoreauputic's been helping me out. :)
[04:20] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq,  are u composing? i mean writing music?
[04:20] <sproingie> dbzdeath: i don't think being in "the dictionary" makes it any less annoying
[04:20] <nrbq> Would like to get Sweep going, but having problems with output
[04:20] <nrbq> just getting a hiss
[04:20] <[LethAL] > !tell zeroverse about nvu
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> [LethAL] , xemacs comes with extension for php
[04:20] <dbzdeath> sproingie: annoying != childish
[04:20] <nrbq> Shin_Gouki, yeah, trying to
[04:21] <[LethAL] > wickedpuppy, fair dos then :P
[04:21] <thoreauputic> dbzdeath: #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[04:21] <nrbq> my wife works for a small software company (kid's education stuff) and I write short pieces of intro music sometimes
[04:21] <nrbq> I'd like to get away from CoolEdit and Cubase if I can, but may not be possible
[04:21] <sproingie> it's times like that when i can't seriously entertain having any other editor than emacs
[04:21] <jjgod> Hi, I'm wondering if it is possible to add emacs-snapshot into ubuntu's package list.
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats broken if a box can resolv ip addresses but not transfer data with them?
[04:22] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq,  it really buggs me , some time ago(6month) i read an article about excellent Linux sound software...but i dont remember the name :/
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> Shin_Gouki: yeh, i even have the mag i read about it - somewhere
[04:22] <zeroverse> sproingie, you know the apt-get name for emacs?
[04:22] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: maybe someone did something evil with a pair of wire cutters :)
[04:22] <nrbq> well, I've looked at a few now and they all look pretty good (sweep, muse, ardour)
[04:22] <nrbq> It's just getting them to work! Hahaha!!!!
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: :) maybe, but this is comming down the same data pipe :)
[04:23] <sproingie> zeroverse: emacs21 or xemacs21
[04:23] <Shin_Gouki> hi i look for an apt-get command to install firefox 1.5beta...anyone?
[04:23] <sproingie> zeroverse: my particular poison is xemacs, mostly for hysterical raisins (got a lot of xemacs specific code).  i recommend fsf emacs to start with
[04:23] <nrbq> well, I should get back to work
[04:24] <nrbq> thoreauputic, Shin_Gouki, have a good one. Thanks again for your patient help
[04:24] <nrbq> Peace
[04:24] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: you can't - at lest not from ubuntu - why not just grab a binary?
[04:24] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq,  np
[04:24] <Seveas> jjgod, probably not
[04:24] <Shin_Gouki>  thoreauputic, i'm just with it!
[04:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> grr. bloody pc. only one on the network with the problem
[04:25] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: I insatlled a binary in my home dir to test it out - quite quick and improved
[04:25] <dodgyville> gl4: I found the problem. The clock on my laptop had reset to 1970, so the keys were set in the future
[04:25] <Shin_Gouki>  thoreauputic,  thats what i want , i dont want to overwrite my old install
[04:26] <Shin_Gouki> 1970
[04:26] <Shin_Gouki> LOL
[04:26] <Ubunti_Ki> For those who want to allow root login to gnome, cannot do it in 5.10, it was in 5.04. Just info for you.
[04:26] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: not a problem - just run it from the install dir
[04:26] <thoreauputic> Ubunti_Ki: logging into gnome as root is silly anyway
[04:27] <Seveas> Ubunti_Ki, you can do it just as in 5.04 it's just not recommended and lots of people (like me) simply deny to provide the detailed instructions on how to do that..
[04:27] <dodgyville> Thanks for your help.
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> sheesh. loud thunder outside
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> *expects to be suddenly plunged into darnkness and silence*
[04:28] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: no, that's the BSA helicopters coming to audit your network ;)
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P now fix it :P
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> root@aptProxy:/home/ubuntu# ping google.com
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> PING google.com (216.239.57.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> 18 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 16997ms
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> :( no love from that box
[04:29] <holycow> anyone know the name of the wifi applet that is supposed to be uber cool and new in breezy for selecting wireless networks?
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi holycow, long time no see
[04:30] <holycow> oi kaiser :)
[04:30] <Skid> gtkwifi?
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:30] <Skid> its shite imo, if that's what you mean
[04:30] <holycow> Skid, i saw that but i don't think thats what they were working on ... i think this one is written by redhat
[04:31] <sproingie> networkmanager?
[04:31] <sproingie> i dont think that specifically does wifi selection tho
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> cant ping by IP either :( something is rooted well
[04:31] <mylastmorning> !smeg
[04:31] <ubotu> I guess smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:31] <holycow> no this is a new applet specifically designed for wireless network selecction by redhat
[04:31] <holycow> i remember talk about ubuntu having it included
[04:31] <holycow> breezy rather
[04:32] <sproingie> got me a wireless AP, but wifi on a desktop is kinda pointless :)
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh.
[04:32] <Ubunti_Ki> I know why its not recommended, and its for safety measures. Its too powerful to use ROOT. But some things are just nice to know. I did find a way to do this. Thanks anyway.
[04:32] <sproingie> i'm probably well within some free hotspot since i live in downtown san francisco
[04:33] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: hopefully gnome didnt trash all your permissions
[04:33] <sproingie> i'm also 28 floors up, so i'm probably *above* any hotspot
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol sproingie
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats high :O
[04:33] <Ghoat> how do you get a program to start with root priveledges every time?
[04:33] <antisocialboris> can anyone reccomend a decent antivirus for me?
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> Ghoat: what app?
[04:33] <Skid> antisocialboris: clamav
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> antisocialboris: try clamav
[04:33] <nalioth> antisocialboris: AV are unnecessary in linux
[04:33] <sproingie> antisocialboris: clamav comes highly recommended.  as you can see by now
[04:33] <Ghoat> Kamping:firestarter
[04:34] <antisocialboris> yeah, but my uni netork admin are hassling me
[04:34] <Skid> not in all cases, nalioth :)
[04:34] <thoreauputic> Ghoat: you don't need to run it unless you are configuring
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> Ghoat: oh, right. i thought it set the config, then didnt need to be run?
[04:34] <danst> Hi, i am having problems with firestarter: It does not get loaded automatically after reboot...I just installed it from synaptic so it should work should'nt it?
[04:34] <nalioth> Skid: if you want to benefit your windows using associates, AV are great
[04:34] <Ubunti_Ki> No i didnt because I did not log in as a ROOT
[04:34] <sproingie> antisocialboris: so tell 'em you already have it.  if they're too clueless to know that your OS has zero viruses in the wild, they won't know how to audit your system for it
[04:35] <thoreauputic> Ghoat: see /etc/init.d/firestarter - it runs on boot
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> danst: you run it to configre,then not again
[04:35] <nalioth> danst: it doesnt have to load. the configuration it writes is saved to the system
[04:35] <Skid> I don't run windows on any pc/laptop here..
[04:35] <antisocialboris> yeah, maybe
[04:35] <Ghoat> thor:ok thanks, I'll look at it
[04:35] <sproingie> AV is all right for a mail server to keep the spool size down.  most folks already know their options if they're running a server tho
[04:35] <ibuntu> is anyone awake here?
[04:35] <thoreauputic> Ghoat: it's just a front end to iptables
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> ibuntu: no, htey all talk in their sleep
[04:35] <nalioth> ibuntu: no we're all in the bahamas
[04:35] <ibuntu> lol
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol nalioth
[04:36] <sproingie> there's some automated rootkits for linux, those could qualify as worms
[04:36] <g14> nalioth: why was I kicked from #ubuntu-unregged just because I had to go to a meeting and hadn't identified myself?
[04:36] <sproingie> they just dont spread as easily since linux isn't a monoculture
[04:37] <g14> sproingie: adore and lrk3 are the worst. They are a real pain to clean up
[04:37] <danst> but if i test if it is running (from the webpage) with /etc/init.d/firestarter status it tells me that it is stopped... is this ok? and there is no process called firestarter running in the background and everytime I start firestarter it tells me it is switched off...is this the correct behaviour?
[04:37] <Skid> sproingie: clueless users dont help
[04:37] <sproingie> g14: generally if a box has been rootkitted, it's time for reinstall
[04:37] <thoreauputic> danst: don't fret
[04:37] <nalioth> g14: were you being productive in -unregged?
[04:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> sproingie: its the recomeneded practice isnt it?
[04:37] <sproingie> Skid: user education is ultimately pointless, the best thing you can do is limit the damage they can cause to everyone else
[04:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> i had it drilled inot me fairly hard ;)
[04:37] <thoreauputic> danst: if you run a test you'll find it is doing the job
[04:38] <g14> nalioth: I went to a meeting. If you kick everyone from #ubuntu that isn't being productive, there will be a few hundred less people
[04:38] <g14> naolith: I'm not angry, I just dont see the reason as that alienates many newbies
[04:38] <nalioth> g14: i didnt kick anyone from #ubuntu. i kicked everyone from #ubuntu-unregged
[04:39] <sproingie> Kamping_Kaiser: pretty much.  rootkits are pretty low level, and you *might* have it cleaned, but you'll lose sleep over the doubts
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> sproingie: i remember debian released a clean up guide, i almost memorised it at the time
[04:39] <g14> nalioth: I realize that. I dont see the reason for the doublestandard. A standard linux newb often is new to IRC
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was failry paranoid at the time
[04:39] <g14> nalioth: That would piss me off and turn me to something else if I didn't know anybetter
[04:39] <sproingie> g14: the unregged channel is supposed to be a temporary place til people get regged.  ops sweep out the vagrants there from time to time so the true newbies don't get confused by chat
[04:39] <nalioth> g14: then the new user belongs in #ubuntu, not -unregged
[04:40] <sproingie> g14: stop taking it so personally
[04:41] <g14> Sorry, my client died
[04:42] <sproingie> Kamping_Kaiser: standard practice where i work is to just image the system early on then just ghost it if there's major troubles.  takes less time to reinstall apps than to troubleshoot a system
[04:42] <Gordon84> hallo spricht jemand deutsch??
[04:42] <nalioth> 1de
[04:42] <sproingie> !de
[04:42] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[04:42] <nalioth> !de
[04:43] <sproingie> sprachige is "speaking"?
[04:43] <ProN00b> uhm, gnomebaker is strange, it seems to allow me only to burn one file after another ?
[04:43] <ProN00b> yes, sproingie
[04:43] <nalioth> sproingie: dont even go there (german is hard to learn)
[04:43] <g14> yes
[04:43] <sproingie> never did learn all his verb forms in german
[04:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:44] <ibuntu> gnomebaker sucks k3b is so much better but it's ugly like kde
[04:44] <Kartoffel> I can speak "Deutsch" hehe
[04:44] <sproingie> two years of german in high school, forgotten pretty much all of it
[04:44] <Kartoffel> Was wollt Ihr denn wissen?
[04:44] <sproingie> Kartoffel: i remember that your name is "potato" though
[04:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> i should know wissen... i had a test that used it <12 monhts ago ;)
[04:45] <Gordon84> und zwar hab ich  problem ich hab dieses men anwendungen auf dem panel und mchte kmail dazu tun, wie geht das?
[04:45] <Kartoffel> hehe, that is right sproingie
[04:45] <Gordon84> hab nmlich keine ahnung bin noob in linux
[04:45] <Myrtti> !de
[04:45] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[04:45] <sproingie> german's not that hard.  at least one can pronounce what they can't understand and ask someone around them.  i've got lots of russian co workers
[04:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> and its kmail issue, so tryy kde....
[04:46] <sproingie> when you can't understand the alphabet, it's really hard
[04:46] <nalioth> sproingie: cyrillic is easy
[04:46] <sproingie> to say nothing of all the chinese i come across every day
[04:46] <ProN00b> does anyone know how to do transparent (non-clickable) output of text (logs and stuff) on the desktop ?
[04:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> japanese was not fun :) probably much like russian
[04:46] <g14> German is actually easy to learn. It is hard to pronounce
[04:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> (in ease of learning)
[04:46] <ProN00b> g14, wrong
[04:47] <sproingie> g14: i find german exceedingly easy to pronounce.  its spelling is almost perfectly regular.  anyway, offtopic
[04:47] <Myrtti> "hard to pronounce"
[04:47] <g14> ProN00b apt-get install roottail
[04:47] <nalioth> language skills in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:47] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: tricky in gnome because nautilus draws the desktop
[04:47] <Myrtti> anyway, offtopic
[04:47] <Kartoffel> Just crazy that about 1 percent of the germans vote for the npd, their new nazi party, but it's out of topic
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Kartoffel: politics is *definitely* offtopic :)
[04:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[04:48] <holycow> okay so the app turns out to be called network-monitor
[04:48] <holycow> it is indeed created by redhat
[04:48] <holycow> BUT
[04:48] <Kartoffel> yes, sorry for my comment
[04:48] <holycow> how do you use it? it appears to have no command associated with it, and it doesn't appear in the applet list?
[04:48] <holycow> weird
[04:48] <g14> OT: Steve Balmer making a complete idiot out of himself http://www.tarmo.fi/arc/monkeydance.mpeg
[04:49] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, i downloaded the binary, i unziped untared it...what now?
[04:49] <sproingie> g14: this is hardly new
[04:49] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, i am talking about FF1.5b
[04:49] <gxc> How to disable touchpad on laptop??
[04:49] <g14> sproingie: but not everyone has seen it
[04:49] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: look for the firefox file in the directory and run it
[04:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> wonder if its easer to fix my network issue, or to set up port forwarding on my lappy for the box that wont work :(
[04:49] <holycow> i mean network-manager even
[04:49] <g14> gxc is it a snyaptics touchpad?
[04:50] <gxc> g14: Yes:)
[04:50] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: it's a start script so you do ./firefox or something like that
[04:50] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: or make a launcher if you prefer
[04:50] <gxc> I'm using 5.10
[04:51] <malverian[work] > Any idea why my Gnome main menu would no longer contain a "Run" menu?
[04:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> malverian[work] : to make it less complicated
[04:51] <thoreauputic> malverian[work] : removed in breezy I think - hit alt-F2
[04:51] <ProN00b> how can i make deb packages again ?
[04:51] <g14> gxc: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=956
[04:51] <malverian[work] > That's horrible :-P
[04:51] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: depends - quick and dirty way is with checkinstall
[04:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> malverian[work] : then add it to the pannel :)
[04:52] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, thx it started i guess i will ask u later what a launcher is & how to create it!
[04:52] <malverian[work] > Then I have more crap taking up my panel.
[04:53] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: right click panel or desktop, create launcher, put in th epath to the FF executable... not hard
[04:53] <g14> malverian[work] : You could always edit the menu xml files and add it yourself. But that would not be very fun
[04:53] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: you can choose an icon too
[04:53] <gxc> g14: Can you send the url to me again? thanks
[04:53] <bpf> i recently installed breezy on a new thinkpad x40 and I can't seem to get the network settings for multiple locations to work properly. it reverts to wired and DHCP every time I boot
[04:53] <thoreauputic> malverian[work] : why not jsut use alt-F2 ?
[04:53] <malverian[work] > I'm not following why they thought that was a good idea to begin with.. but now that I know.
[04:54] <bpf> I also can't get the wireless to work, wondering if I have all the right packages installed. I was informed last week in here that it should work "out of the box" with breezy
[04:54] <g14> gxc: I know it is in the hoary repositories. Im not on a breezy box to test
[04:54] <malverian[work] > thoreauputic, I do. But it's just silly not to have it there.
[04:54] <g14> gxc: apt-get install gsynaptics
[04:54] <thoreauputic> malverian[work] : probably a gnome 2.12 thing
[04:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> malverian[work] : your average user wont use it
[04:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> its not silly at all
[04:54] <gxc> g14: thanks! i'll try it
[04:55] <Robihnood> help
[04:55] <thoreauputic> malverian[work] : the gnome devs are gradually reducing all options - pretty soon you'll just have a "start here" icon *grin*
[04:55] <dreamwave> hello.  i'm playing around with shortcut keys in gnome.  i want to use the SUPER_L (windows) key as a modifier key.  currently, when defining shortcuts, the key acts like a regular key.  anyone know how to do this?
[04:55] <g14> malverian[work] : A user shouldn't need to use the command line. It is part of the CommandLineDisinegration breezy goal
[04:55] <dreamwave> bpf: what kind of card do you have?
[04:55] <Robihnood> how can i install on my pc
[04:55] <[LethAL] > !tell Robihnood about install
[04:55] <Robihnood> yes about install
[04:56] <[LethAL] > Robihnood, see the link ubotu sent you
[04:56] <g14> malverian[work]  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandLineDisintegration
[04:56] <Ghoat> Will Ubuntu run .RPM files?
[04:56] <Kartoffel> no
[04:56] <[LethAL] > !alien
[04:56] <ubotu> alien is, like, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[04:57] <Whistler> Ghoat u can convert these with alien
[04:57] <Ghoat> KArt:didn't think so
[04:57] <thoreauputic> Ghoat: you would convert them with alien - but it's hit and miss
[04:57] <Ng> *some* RPMs can be converted with alien
[04:57] <ProN00b> g14, can't find the roottail package
[04:57] <Ng> but generally it's not worth the hassle imho
[04:57] <bpf> dreamwave, not sure - it is built-in. can I query that somehow?
[04:57] <epic___> ProN00b,   root-tail
[04:57] <Ghoat> Whistler:Really?  I'll check it out, thanks...
[04:57] <Ng> and for goodness's sake don't try and alien something like libc ;)
[04:57] <dreamwave> bpf, what is the make of your motherboard/computer?
[04:57] <bpf> I _just_ got this a couple days ago and have only tried a few things
[04:57] <bpf> thinkpad x40
[04:57] <g14> Ng: amen :-)
[04:57] <bpf> lappy
[04:58] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: warning - roottail won't show on a standard gnome desktop
[04:58] <g14> ProN00b: he is right, you need to disable nautilus from controlling the desktop
[04:58] <thoreauputic> !info root-tail
[04:58] <ubotu> root-tail: (Displays select log files in the X root window), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.1+CVS-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[04:58] <Ubunti_Ki> whats a foobar?
[04:58] <Ng> like a frobnik ;)
[04:58] <Ng> a miscellaneous thing :)
[04:59] <ProN00b> yeah, root-tail does nothing
[04:59] <g14> thats really cool. Does ubotu have metadata on all of the packages in main or universe?
[04:59] <thoreauputic> Ubunti_Ki: foo and bar are traditional unix "placeholder" words
[04:59] <voth> once xubuntu is installed do i simple log out then back in ?
[04:59] <dreamwave> bpf, http://www.chronox.de/x40_linux/linux_on_x40.html
[04:59] <[LethAL] > g14, yep
[04:59] <pont> has anyone reported problems with the nvidia gl drivers and hoary ?
[04:59] <dreamwave> bpf, http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ibm.html
[04:59] <dreamwave> bpf, that second link has a desription of ubuntu 5.04 running on the x40
[04:59] <Ng> x40 should be fairly well supported, it's mostly intel kit. my flatmate has one, but he won't let me throw bunty at it ;(
[05:00] <thoreauputic> voth: yes
[05:00] <holycow> anyone know how to use network-manager to select wireless networks?  i don't seen an applet or a command associated with this tool
[05:00] <holycow> *grrrr*
[05:00] <thoreauputic> voth: choose from the sessions menu in the login screen
[05:00] <[LethAL] > !info wifi-radar
[05:00] <Ubunti_Ki> Thanx
[05:00] <bpf> thanks for the links
[05:00] <[LethAL] > grrr
[05:00] <dreamwave> bpf, sure
[05:00] <Whistler> anybody have used gmailfs from apt-get?
[05:01] <Ng> Whistler: no and doing so violates the EULA of gmail as I understand it
[05:01] <g14> holycow: /usr/bin/nm-applet
[05:01] <Whistler> Ng i really do not care about it
[05:01] <Ng> Whistler: you might care when they erase your files for violating the EULA ;)
[05:01] <charlie5> hello folks ... does anyone develop with the Ada programming language under Ubuntu ?
[05:01] <rawiramdhan> newb question: how do I remove dir. that are not empty
[05:01] <Whistler> Ng anyway i want to try it out
[05:01] <g14> holycow: add that to the startup tab under gnome-session
[05:01] <JDigital> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[05:01] <JDigital> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[05:01] <JDigital> eject: unmount of `/dev/hda' failed
[05:02] <holycow> aha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:02] <antisocialboris> whats the best media player?
[05:02] <JDigital> Any ideas?
[05:02] <thoreauputic> rawiramdhan: rm -r
[05:02] <holycow> wicked! danke :)
[05:02] <g14> rawiramdhan: rm -r
[05:02] <charlie5> ... i was wondering if ubuntu has gcc 4.0.2 or later ?
[05:02] <g14> beep-media-player
[05:02] <thoreauputic> antisocialboris: define "best"
[05:02] <JDigital> mplayer
[05:02] <holycow> brilliant :)
[05:02] <Ng> charlie5: breezy is on 4.0.1 at the moment
[05:02] <[LethAL] > holycow, ignore ubotu, get wifi-radar anyway
[05:02] <grayman_> Ng, i have 4.0.2
[05:02] <dreamwave> gcc (GCC) 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[05:02] <g14> holycow: did it work? NM is one of those really cool toys to play with
[05:02] <antisocialboris> ok, how about anything that'll actually let me watch movies etc
[05:03] <JDigital> mplayer
[05:03] <holycow> [LethAL] , will do
[05:03] <Ng> grayman_: haha, good point. the package claims it's 4.0.1, but it's 4.0.2 :)
[05:03] <antisocialboris> where can i get mplayer?
[05:03] <grayman_> actually gstreamer is good and its installed by default with totem
[05:03] <zeroverse> whistler, if you really need massive online storage you can get about 10 gigs of hosting space for 10-20 bucks a month at some decent web hosts
[05:03] <holycow> g14, well at least the applet is running, i'm okay if it is not perfect as long as i know what it is i installed.  so far okay, now gotta make connection
[05:03] <grayman_> but you need to install codecs so it will work properly
[05:03] <thoreauputic> !tell antisocialboris about restricted
[05:03] <JDigital> How do I find out what's using my CD drive
[05:03] <Whistler> zeroverse i just want to try gmailfs out thats it
[05:03] <ProN00b> so, how do i get root-tail to work ?
[05:04] <JDigital> It says the device is busy
[05:04] <Whistler> i do not need a lot of space or anything
[05:04] <g14> holycow: dpkg -L networkmanager | grep bin I think will do
[05:04] <ruschi> Now a bit deeper to gory details: X-keyboard -- I have a Sun Type6 USB Keyboard and ever since I upgraded to breezy I cant do the CTRL+ALT+Fn virtual Console Switch anymore.... if not logged in in X it switches perfectly
[05:04] <Ng> JDigital: sudo fuser -m /media/cdrom0    - that will give you the process id(s) of whatever is using your cdrom
[05:04] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: it draws on the root window, which gnome hides - it works in window managers like fluxbox
[05:04] <JDigital> thanks :D
[05:04] <grayman_> antisocialboris, totem. use totem
[05:04] <JDigital> Are you Ng from #amiga ?
[05:05] <ruschi> any Idea what this may be - It doesn't even work with a custom xmodmap
[05:05] <grayman_> antisocialboris, just search for gstreamer codecs with synaptic and install them
[05:05] <Ng> JDigital: I used to lurk on a #amiga a bunch of years ago, yeah :)
[05:05] <ProN00b> thoreauputic, so i can't just change some gnome setting ?
[05:05] <JDigital> The one on Amiganet?
[05:05] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: there's probably a way to do it in gnome, but how I don't personally know
[05:05] <Ng> JDigital: think so, yeah. with darxide? :)
[05:05] <ruschi> I put the Xmodmap into /etc/X11 so it will be read globally - I think
[05:05] <g14> antisocialboris: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[05:05] <JDigital> Yeah
[05:05] <Ng> haha
[05:05] <JDigital> I'd be like
[05:05] <JDigital> !seen JDigital
[05:05] <ubotu> jdigital is currently on #ubuntu (4m 7s)
[05:06] <ruschi> xev shows all key events correctly
[05:06] <JDigital> and it's say "Yeah I see you. Boy, you're ugly."
[05:06] <Ng> hehe
[05:06] <ompaul> is colony 6 out today? I thought I read it and can't locate it in mail without resorting to some strange grep magic
[05:06] <Ng> ahh, good old darx
[05:06] <Ng> that was a proper bot :)
[05:06] <JDigital> Yeah
[05:06] <JDigital> Dancer ftw
[05:06] <ruschi> who knows alot about X configuration
[05:06] <nalioth> ompaul: you are behind. the preview release is here already
[05:07] <JDigital> Has Amiga released any non-vapourware at all since 2001?
[05:07] <ompaul> nalioth, is that C5 or C6  ? or am I just loosing it?
[05:07] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: I would read "man root-tail " first - there are a lot of options. I don't use it any more because I cn get the same effect in fluxbox by toggling window borders off
[05:07] <nalioth> ompaul: it's neither. its Preview Release
[05:07] <ccooke> nalioth: Colony 5 is *after* the preview release
[05:07] <grayman_> gl4, actually i had to install FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer to play divx movies
[05:07] <thoreauputic> hi ompaul :)
[05:07] <ompaul> hi thoreauputic
[05:07] <nalioth> ccooke: you kiddin me?
[05:07] <ompaul> nalioth, url please I want to provide torrent
[05:08] <Secreth`X> darn r0d isn't here..
[05:08] <charlie5> Ng, thanks ... i have just installed 'hoary hedgehog' ... can i update to gcc 4.01 from there ? the package manager only seems to provide gcc 4.0
[05:08] <nalioth> ompaul: www.ubuntulinux.org/download
[05:08] <ruschi> is there a detailed Handbook for Xconfiguration?
[05:08] <ompaul> nalioth, if you promise not to laugh I was looking in cdimage.ubuntu ....
[05:08] <Secreth`X> Does someone have expirience with partitionmagic?
[05:08] <nalioth> Secreth`X: yes we do
[05:08] <ruschi> yes - bad ones
[05:08] <Secreth`X> erm
[05:08] <Secreth`X> ok
[05:09] <Whistler> how do i quit from man?
[05:09] <Secreth`X> so everytime when I add a partition
[05:09] <Ng> charlie5: you'd have to upgrade your entire install to breezy, which isn't currently a stable release. It is released in a little over a week though, so it's not long to wait, or you could do it now as it's fairly stable right now (but that could in theory change)
[05:09] <[LethAL] > Whistler, q
[05:09] <ruschi> I screwed up a ext3 partition once
[05:09] <Secreth`X> It gives me the same error
[05:09] <thoreauputic> ruschi:  man X ? *grin*
[05:09] <g14> Whistler, q
[05:09] <nalioth> wijnand: "q"
[05:09] <[LethAL] > Got there first :D
[05:09] <Whistler> thx
[05:09] <Whistler> :)
[05:09] <grayman_> breezy works good <3
[05:09] <Whistler> how do i empty trash on breezy?
[05:09] <[LethAL] > It sure does
[05:09] <JDigital> Hm, that fuser command says "19488c"
[05:09] <g14> Has anyone set up Evolution to connect to a groupwise server
[05:09] <JDigital> How do I find out what that is
[05:10] <[LethAL] > Whistler, right-click the wastbin?
[05:10] <Whistler> ther is no trash icon in panel
[05:10] <grayman_> Whistler, right click-> empty trash
[05:10] <thoreauputic> ruschi: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is pretty comprehensive
[05:10] <[LethAL] > Whistler, add it back then
[05:10] <nalioth> Whistler: right click and add it
[05:10] <g14> I am curious to know if it supports calendaring and everything and if it does, I am converting my work laptop to ubuntu
[05:10] <grayman_> Whistler, bottom right corner
[05:10] <ompaul> Whistler, down the bottom right of the screen right click on bin and do it all or double click and highlight the bits you want to remove
[05:10] <ruschi> @thorapeutic - thanks for advice but I already did that
[05:10] <dracflamloc> hello. anyone know of a good "hyperterminal" like program for linux
[05:10] <Whistler> thx
[05:10] <Whistler> :)
[05:10] <zeroverse> g14 it does support calendaring
[05:10] <charlie5> ng, ok ... i have slooow net connect, so i will make do with the hedghog for present ... thanks for the assist
[05:10] <ruschi> and it works all right except for the virtual console switching
[05:10] <Whistler> i have another problem with my mp3 player
[05:11] <g14> zeroverse: and does it have busy search?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> ruschi: it might be more useful to say what you are trying to do
[05:11] <SCR34M> Hi, got a problem when installing ubuntu, it stucked on the partition page, when I pressed the continue button, an error saying "E: unimplemented function" comes out, anyone can help?
[05:11] <Secreth`X> nalioth: everytime when I add a partition, then reboot it gives me this: error 1527: Bad Update Sequence Number
[05:11] <Whistler> then i delete files from it ubuntu creates a new folder named .trash
[05:11] <Whistler> and all files are in there
[05:11] <ruschi> I want to get my virtual consoles accessable again
[05:11] <Whistler> can i disable trash
[05:11] <Whistler> ?
[05:11] <ruschi> by pressing ctrl+alt+fn
[05:11] <nalioth> Secreth`X: i'm not up on my PM induced errors
[05:11] <nalioth> Secreth`X: is the partition there?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> ruschi: have you checked /etc/inittab ?
[05:11] <ruschi> alll works fine except for that
[05:11] <Secreth`X> no it isnt
[05:12] <grayman_> Whistler, what mp3 player?
[05:12] <g14> Whistler: there is a setting in gconf to bypass trash. gconf-editor is like the registry editor for windows
[05:12] <nalioth> Secreth`X: have you tried gparted?
[05:12] <whp_> chick to chick
[05:12] <Secreth`X> It gives that error when it's resizing C:
[05:12] <ruschi> they are all running tty1-tty6
[05:12] <Whistler> grayman_ apacer i dont remember model
[05:12] <Secreth`X> No I didnt nalioth, I didnt understand it o_O
[05:12] <imc_> Hi, trying ito install JRE and following the instructions at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java - when I run the fakeroot command to create the .deb I get:   dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)
[05:12] <Whistler> i have this bug with all versions of ubuntu
[05:12] <Whistler> if i can call it so
[05:12] <ruschi> and I can access them whine X is starting but as soon as GDM is running completetly I can't accessthem anymore
[05:12] <nalioth> imc_: use the deb
[05:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell imc_ about javadeb
[05:13] <imc_> thanks
[05:13] <grayman_> Whistler, its probably not a big, but i dunno
[05:13] <grayman_> *bug
[05:13] <imc_> I have tried that and had difficulties. Can I test the install somehow to se if java is running?
[05:14] <nalioth> imc_: type "java --version"
[05:14] <ruschi> thorapeutic: xev shows the correct sequence CTRL_L , ALT_L ,F1
[05:14] <imc_> Thanks, nalioth!
[05:14] <JDigital> Hahaha
[05:15] <JDigital> It turned out that the process that was using my CD drive, was the shell window that I was using to try and close it
[05:15] <JDigital> that's pretty ironic
[05:15] <Secreth`X> nalioth: can I run gparted on ubuntu live cd?
[05:15] <nalioth> Secreth`X: the breezy livecd, yes
[05:15] <atripathi> finally got connected again :)
[05:15] <Secreth`X> k
[05:16] <atripathi> this dsl connection problem is getting serious
[05:16] <atripathi> fedora has nice support to dsl internet connection
[05:16] <sarkie> lo
[05:16] <daved> atripathi: umm.. if you're using ethernet, anything will support it.. if you're not, you need to be using ethernet
[05:17] <atripathi> i am on ethernet buddy
[05:17] <atripathi> want on demand pppoe
[05:17] <daved> ew.. pppoe
[05:17] <sarkie> hi does anyone know if brezzy is going to be compiled with the lastest gcc?
[05:17] <daved> get a real isp
[05:17] <atripathi> pppoeconf is what i am using
[05:17] <Robihnood> pls help how to install
[05:17] <atripathi> i am on dsl
[05:17] <atripathi> got a dsl modem
[05:18] <Robihnood> anybody help
[05:18] <nalioth> Robihnood: help to install what?
[05:18] <Robihnood> yes
[05:18] <atripathi> ubuntu is good but it needs some more utilities to make life a bit easier
[05:18] <nalioth> atripathi: add the ones you like
[05:18] <sarkie> it does? all in synaptics
[05:18] <thoreauputic> sarkie: gcc4 AFAIK
[05:19] <sarkie> that ThomasM
[05:19] <sarkie> oops
[05:19] <ompaul> wow there must be very few seeders for the rc 386 iso  I am getting less than 1 kps for it
[05:19] <grayman_> atri, erm yo dont hav epppoe installed?
[05:19] <sarkie> thanx thoreauputic
[05:19] <ruschi> bye
[05:19] <atripathi> i just installed rp-pppoe just to mess up with my existing dsl setup
[05:19] <grayman_> hmm
[05:19] <atripathi> fiddeling for 1 hour luckily left me to previous setup
[05:19] <grayman_> its not in apt
[05:20] <grayman_> well
[05:20] <atripathi> nope1
[05:20] <thoreauputic> !info pppoeconf
[05:20] <grayman_> you can try poking MOTU guys
[05:20] <ubotu> pppoeconf: (configures PPPoE/ADSL connections), section net, is optional. Version: 1.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 324 kB
[05:20] <sarkie> what exactly happens?
[05:21] <atripathi> provide info on epppoe
[05:21] <grayman_> not epppoe
[05:21] <atripathi> ?
[05:21] <grayman_> the e just jumped there from have :)
[05:21] <ThomasM> sarkie: Sorry to have screwed up your nick completion. :P
[05:21] <atripathi> k
[05:21] <thoreauputic> grayman_: I think you want pppoeconf, don't you?
[05:22] <epic___> Bless you, Angels of Hilarity.
[05:22] <atripathi> gray i have pppoeconf and is actually working fine but is not what I would like to do every now and then
[05:22] <grayman_> thoreauputic, erm. i dont want pppoe. atripathi does
[05:22] <thoreauputic> grayman_: whoever wanted it, it's in th repos
[05:23] <thoreauputic> atripathi: see ubotu above
[05:23] <thoreauputic> atripathi: ah sorry missed your post
[05:23] <atripathi> yeah i have pppoeconf
[05:23] <thoreauputic> OK
[05:23] <atripathi> np
[05:24] <goh> Hi
[05:24] <kemik> !shockwave
[05:24] <ubotu> Unfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!
[05:24] <atripathi> does breezy provide better internet connectivity gui tool ?
[05:25] <Syruss> I've got breezy badger...when I try to compile modules, or try compile anything it tries to use GCC 3.4 rather than version 4 (which I think my kernel is compiled against at a guess)....any ideas how I can make gcc 4 the default compiler (or a way around this problem)?
[05:25] <Syruss> ...well, it tries to use 3.4
[05:25] <goh> I got this msg earlier b4 I got disconnected.... any 1 can enlighten me on the detailed steps?":i'd copy cdrom to cdrom_backup and then make cdrom a symbolic link to cdrw (assuming that cdrw exists)
[05:25] <zoot_> hi - trying to get sound output working on an "HP flat panel speaker bar" which connects via USB (I assume for power) and a sound cable to the PC. Using Breezy preview. Where do I begin?
[05:25] <antisocialboris> my uni has a dc++ hub, anyone know how i can get using it?
[05:25] <antisocialboris> (i got sent a program but its .exe)
[05:26] <Syruss> antisocialboris, apt-cache search dc++
[05:26] <nalioth> Syruss: in your terminal type "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.01" or whatever versaion 0f gcc you want to use
[05:26] <Syruss> ta nalioth
[05:27] <Syruss> hmm
[05:27] <antisocialboris> ok, that gave me loads of stuff
[05:27] <Syruss> doesn't seem to have that env variable nalioth
[05:27] <Syruss> does that override something else?
[05:27] <sambagirl> anyone install egoboo?
[05:27] <zoot_> the sound card is: Realtek 2 channel ALC260
[05:27] <Secreth`X> nalioth, I downloaded it, but how do I run it now?
[05:27] <nalioth> Syruss: only until you close that terminal window
[05:27] <atripathi> ok i am going to try rp-pppoe again
[05:27] <nalioth> Secreth`X: you in the livecd now?
[05:28] <atripathi> see ya peeps
[05:28] <Secreth`X> nalioth: yes
[05:28] <Syruss> I still get: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[05:28] <Happu> Hey somebody knows what version of ubuntu i get if i order cds? Is it 5.10 prelease or the correct one?
[05:28] <Syruss> :/
[05:28] <zoot_> all fixed.. mysteriously *grin*
[05:28] <nalioth> Syruss: edit your .sh file
[05:28] <epic___> Anybody else find that testing sound input with gstreamer-properties after selecting ALSA causes it to die?
[05:28] <nalioth> Secreth`X: type "sudo gparted /dev/hda"
[05:28] <Secreth`X> nalioth: k brb
[05:30] <zeroverse> can anyone reccommend a good password manager program like KeePass ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/keepass/ )?
[05:31] <Whistler> then i press 2nd mouse button on file nautilus restarts?
[05:31] <Whistler> any ideas?
[05:31] <Whistler> i am on breezy
[05:31] <Seveas> zeroverse, revelation
[05:32] <Syruss> hmm
[05:32] <olicat> are there any programs for visually creating sql databases?
[05:32] <Robihnood> how can i boot to cd
[05:32] <grayman_> whistler, which is second button?
[05:32] <JDigital> olicat: Microsoft Access
[05:32] <olicat> boomboom.
[05:32] <Whistler> grayman_ wright one
[05:32] <JDigital> Robihnood: Set it in the bios
[05:32] <olicat> how about for linux? :)
[05:32] <Robihnood> the ubunto doest not boot
[05:32] <LazyAngel> has anyone tried to set up raid 5 on asus a8n-sli ?
[05:33] <JDigital> Does OpenOffice have a virus?
[05:33] <JDigital> not virus
[05:33] <grayman_> Whistler, dont get that effect. which type of file is that?
[05:33] <JDigital> I mean an MS Access equivalent
[05:33] <Whistler> *deb one
[05:33] <JDigital> don't know how I confused MS Access with a virus...
[05:33] <Seveas> JDigital, lol :)
[05:33] <Seveas> openoffice has a database program since 2.0
[05:33] <zeroverse> olicat i use phpmyadmin
[05:33] <Seveas> breezy has it
[05:33] <olicat> JDigital, it has something called Base
[05:34] <olicat> doesn't use postgres though, it seems
[05:34] <zeroverse> but that requires mysql
[05:34] <Secreth`X> nalioth: erm, I think its stucked..
[05:34] <grayman_> Whistler, is it just with deb or also with other types?
[05:34] <olicat> zeroverse, i see. i'm after postgres
[05:34] <Robihnood> i   finish download ang i write to cdr but  i tried to boot  can boot   using my download
[05:34] <zeroverse> there is something similar for postgres though
[05:34] <Astholf> hi
[05:34] <nalioth> Secreth`X: what have you tried to do?
[05:34] <olicat> ideally i'm looking for something gnome'ish
[05:34] <Whistler> grayman_ with  few more files
[05:34] <Secreth`X> nalioth: what you said.. sudo gparted /dev/hda
[05:35] <zeroverse> i'm looking for it right now
[05:35] <zeroverse> got it: http://phppgadmin.sourceforge.net/
[05:35] <Seveas> !info phppgadmin
[05:35] <olicat> zeroverse, cool thanks, i'll take a look
[05:35] <ubotu> phppgadmin: (Set of PHP scripts to administrate PostgreSQL over the WWW), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 3.5.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 576 kB, Installed size: 3448 kB
[05:35] <Astholf> does anyone know how to force the system to scan for new hardware?
[05:36] <Secreth`X> nalioth: yep, it's stucked.. it doesn't respond anymore
[05:36] <Seveas> Astholf, reboot / /etc/init.d/udev restart
[05:36] <sproingie> postgres also has pgadmin III which is frankly not great but not bad either, no webserver+php required
[05:36] <nalioth> Secreth`X: kill your gparted process, and join #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:37] <zeroverse> http://www.pgadmin.org/
[05:37] <Secreth`X> nalioth: erm I can't kill it. I can't even move the frigging mouse o_O, k I'll join
[05:37] <Astholf> Can't you do it without rebooting? I know there is a command that does that but I can't remember it
[05:38] <Syruss> this is doing my noggin in
[05:38] <sproingie> oh there's also tora.  can't forget tora
[05:38] <sproingie> http://tora.sf.net ... can't remember whether it does pg tho.  windows version is also useless, dont bother with it
[05:38] <olicat> zeroverse, that looks pretty good. thanks
[05:39] <zeroverse> yeah, tora supports pg
[05:39] <jenocin> anyone else have problems with random freezing while on laptop battery?
[05:40] <zeroverse> i just use plain ol command lines for my databases
[05:40] <sproingie> zeroverse: now if only the windows version wasn't such a steaming turd :(
[05:40] <noaXess> hi all
[05:41] <ish> What happened to lndir?
[05:41] <Astholf> Thank you... this is a nice chanel
[05:41] <Astholf> bye
[05:41] <JDigital> I ate it
[05:41] <Syruss> how can I totally un-install a module?
[05:41] <sproingie> tho i suspect the stop button doesn't work for pg
[05:41] <Syruss> I'm not talking about rmmod'ing it either
[05:42] <ish> in hoary it was in xutils I think.
[05:42] <Syruss> I seem to have some kind of cached version of a module I can't get rid of using module-assistant's clean/purge
[05:42] <Syruss> and it insists on using this tainted module instead of a freshly compiled one
[05:42] <Syruss> therefore making my whole system unstable
[05:43] <Ghoat> anyone, how do I give write permissions to a folder?
[05:43] <kemik> Ghoat:  chmod +w <folder>
[05:43] <noaXess> Ghoat: chmod -R for recursive
[05:44] <Ghoat> kemik: noa: thanks
[05:44] <noaXess> does anybody experienced with ubuntu and wireless cards?
[05:44] <kemik> noaXess:  nope, but if you dont have a driver you could perhaps use ndiswrapper and the windowsdriver
[05:44] <kemik> !tell noaXess about ndiswrapper
[05:45] <kemik> !tell noaXess about wireless
[05:45] <noaXess> kemik: then its the same procedure than in other linux distris.. :)
[05:45] <kemik> noaXess:  yeah, look up the supported page though aswell..
[05:45] <noaXess> kemik: i know all about it.. thought in ubuntu there is a solution
[05:45] <kemik> ahh.. well i think it'd propaget thru all distros rather quickly
[05:45] <Syruss> aha
[05:45] <kemik> since a solution would be native drivers
[05:45] <kemik> ;)
[05:45] <noaXess> i have a notebook with an integrated intel wlan card.. and its hard to bring it up
[05:45] <Syruss> --force install
[05:46] <jenocin> any problems with xinetd that would cause freezes?
[05:47] <crashbox> has anyone been able to install vlc on an amd64 breezy install?
[05:47] <noaXess> kemik: its the ipw2200 chip from intel.. i see its supported with the given ubuntu driver..
[05:49] <LazyAngel> can ubuntu boot from software raid 5?
[05:50] <[LethAL] > LazyAngel, no idea, look at !raid though
[05:51] <BooZee> hello everybody!
[05:51] <kemik> noaXess:  you're in luck then ;)
[05:51] <BooZee> how can I control and disable some things that run with the boot of linux?
[05:53] <rc55> Hello - if I use the current Breezy preview, can I up it to breezy final easily?
[05:53] <ompaul> yes
[05:53] <rc55> great :)
[05:54] <noaXess> kemik: yeah.. sounds that ubuntu support some hardware i need/have :) nice..
[05:55] <noaXess> whats the tool for upgrade or install? grafical or command?
[05:55] <BooZee> sudo apt-get update
[05:55] <BooZee> and than
[05:55] <BooZee> sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:56] <vegiVamp> dist-upgrade, rather
[05:57] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, i am back now....debian is installed
[05:57] <noaXess> BooZee, vegiVamp: thx i'm just new in ubuntu.. and plan to install it on my acer notebook
[05:58] <vegiVamp> noaXess: if you run the update-manager, you should always have the latest version.
[05:58] <LazyAngel> is the boot partition only accessed when you boot? I want to put it on an old disk, but the disk  is noisy. So i want to unmount it when the boot is done...
[05:59] <noaXess> vegiVamp: and the update-manager is a grafical ui?
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Alpha i386 (20050902)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> anyone knows how to solve this error ?
[05:59] <vegiVamp> LazyAngel: if should be, yes, but I'm not guaranteeing that :-)
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> i did apt-cdrom add
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> but still having this error
[06:00] <LazyAngel> vegiVamp: thanks. that was what i thought. just needed to double check before all the work :)
[06:00] <bouba> hello
[06:00] <vegiVamp> noaXess: update-manager is a thingy in your taskbar, which checks for updates and calls synaptic to install them
[06:00] <vegiVamp> LazyAngel: just unmount it manually for a few days, and see what happens :-)
[06:00] <LazyAngel> hehe
[06:01] <vegiVamp> be sure to check the syslogs
[06:01] <crashbox> dumb question.......... does ubuntu come with a c compiler?
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> crashbox, no
[06:01] <noaXess> vegiVamp: i plan a web/mysql server and whant to check for updates all night.. then upt-get is my choice?
[06:01] <kjb> hi i found in an article, the following command, and i should do it, that vmaware is working, here the command: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-uname -r
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> you got to get it after installing
[06:01] <noaXess> apt-get
[06:01] <kjb> but its not working
[06:01] <crashbox> wickedpuppy, thanks
[06:01] <[LethAL] > !tell crashbox about be
[06:02] <Ng> kjb: that should be linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:02] <Ng> the backticks are important
[06:02] <kjb> Ng, thx
[06:02] <vegiVamp> but if you really want to, just put a crontab with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade --force or something like that
[06:02] <kjb> they have forgoten them in the articel
[06:03] <vegiVamp> you'll get a daily mail about what happened
[06:03] <vegiVamp> but on a server, you don't update unless there's a good reason, such as security holes.
[06:03] <vegiVamp> if it isn't broken, don't fix it
[06:05] <bouba> hello
[06:05] <kjb> Ng, E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r
[06:05] <vegiVamp> noaXess: cron something like apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -uV --dry-run (or whatever the parameter is), so it'll mail you what it would have done without actually having done it. Then you decide yourself wether you need to patch.
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> hi who can i ask question on pbuilder ?
[06:05] <kjb> ah the false '
[06:05] <kjb> now its working :)
[06:05] <Seveas> wickedpuppy, just ask in here :)
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Alpha i386 (20050902)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> i got this error
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> although i added cd with apt-cdrom add
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> know why Seveas ?? thanks
[06:06] <Seveas> wickedpuppy, is the mountpoint available in the pbuilde chroot?
[06:06] <noaXess> vegiVamp: thanks.. thats what i need.. later i come back to this tip.. first need to download it and install it on my notebook
[06:06] <Seveas> if not, mount it inside the chroot (or mount -o bind it inside the chroot)
[06:07] <wickedpuppy> ah ... mountpoint ?
[06:07] <wickedpuppy> i thought it mounts in var ?
[06:07] <Seveas> pbuilder chroot is in var indeed
[06:07] <Seveas> you need to mount -o bind the cdrom there
[06:07] <wickedpuppy> i am following the wiki exactly
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> oh .. hmms ... ah there is my missing step
[06:08] <Seveas> the wiki does not treat cds irrc
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> yah .. but pbuild ask for cd source ... perhaps its looking into my sources.list ?
[06:09] <Se7h> i need some help plz
[06:09] <scanwinder> does anyone know of any console-based media players where you can have a playlist?
[06:10] <Se7h> im stuck on a apt error
[06:10] <Danny_26M> need help guys
[06:10] <Se7h> lol
[06:10] <Seveas> Se7h, put the error on the pastebon
[06:10] <Seveas> !tell Danny_26M about helpme
[06:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> night all :S
[06:10] <Se7h> is that the chan or the webpage?
[06:10] <Seveas> !pastebin
[06:10] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:11] <Danny_26M> i have a laptop, and installed ltmodem, whenever I dial to connect...the screen suddenly gets blank
[06:11] <Se7h> k
[06:11] <Danny_26M> do you know the problem? thanks
[06:11] <woodwizzle> uuuhhh, somehow I made my desktop show the contents of my trashcan and not the contents of my ~/Desktop folder?!
[06:11] <Seveas> woodwizzle, did you move the contents of your trashcan to your desktop perhaps?
[06:11] <florian> hi, how to get the width and height of an image? I already tried identify, but I am not able to find out how to set two variables in a script, whereas one is holding the width and the other one the size
[06:11] <ubuntu> hi
[06:11] <Seveas> Danny_26M, just blank or is the system rebooting/hanging?
[06:12] <Se7h> k, its done
[06:12] <Se7h> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2817
[06:12] <Danny_26M> Seveas: it suddenly blanks. but it does not restart or anything
[06:12] <woodwizzle> Seveas: perhaps,
[06:12] <Danny_26M> i guess you I would say, it hanged and blank
[06:13] <woodwizzle> Seveas but it is actually now Showing the trashcan. As in If i drag something to the wastebasket it appears on my desktop
[06:13] <Seveas> Danny_26M, and wiggling the mouse/hitting some keys/perhaps hitting ALT+F7 does not help?
[06:13] <Danny_26M> Seveas: i already used the modem and connect to the internet...there's one time that it just went blank
[06:13] <woodwizzle> and if I nautilus over to ~/Desktop it shows what SHOULD be on my desktop
[06:14] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> !seen timido
[06:14] <ubotu> timido <n=deb@unaffiliated/timido> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 12h 52m 8s ago, saying: 'dsfas you meen ftp client?'.
[06:14] <Seveas> Se7h, that's a bug in this package
[06:14] <bretzel> Breezy still on October.13 ? :-)
[06:14] <Seveas> woodwizzle, how weird, hang on...
[06:14] <florian> does anyone know how two set two variables in a script, one conatining the width and the other one containing the height of an image?
[06:14] <Se7h> Seveas ye i figured that
[06:15] <picasso> arg.... stupid gnome panel keeps fucking up, freezing up my xwindows
[06:15] <Seveas> Se7h, apt-get install eclipse-rcp
[06:15] <mameluke> hi folks... i've googled a lot... but i still have the same problem! WESNOTH has no sound! can somebody help me?
[06:15] <wickedpuppy> Seveas, sorry but how would you mount the cd rom ? mount -o /dev/cdrom /var/cache/pbuilder ?
[06:15] <grayman_> florian, shell script?
[06:15] <Seveas> and then remove the other package BEFORE removing eclipse-rcp
[06:15] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I would like to check if I burned well a DVD.So I would like to copy all the DVD to /dev/null to check if there are I/O errors.but /dev/null is not a directory.any other ways?
[06:15] <picasso> anyone ever see it happen where your panel will jitter and cause system to freeze?
[06:15] <Danny_26M> Seveas: Alt F7 does not work
[06:15] <Danny_26M> any gues???
[06:15] <florian> grayman_, yes
[06:15] <Seveas> Danny_26M, none at all, sorry....
[06:15] <kennethlove> is there any sort of GUI NFS utility other than Gnome's Shared Folders?
[06:15] <Danny_26M> ok thanks!
[06:15] <Seveas> kennethlove, not that I know of
[06:16] <grayman_> florian, var=8
[06:16] <CarlFK> Alex_BO - md5sum all the files
[06:16] <kennethlove> Seveas: thanks.
[06:16] <orion> Danny_26M: you mean CTRL + ALT + F7?
[06:16] <Se7h> Seveas i think ive done that before, but i'll try once more
[06:16] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: cat /dev/yourdvddrivedevicename > /dev/null ?
[06:16] <Alex_BO> CarlFK, tnks
[06:16] <mameluke> no Wesnoth-users here?
[06:16] <Danny_26M> i'll try it orion
[06:16] <Danny_26M> gotta connect my laptop
[06:16] <CarlFK> Alex_BO - what I do: create an md5sum file before, burn that to the disk too
[06:16] <Danny_26M> be bak in a minute
[06:16] <woodwizzle> mameluke, I'm a wesnoth user
[06:16] <Danny_26M> thanks guys
[06:16] <woodwizzle> I got sound with it
[06:16] <CarlFK> Alex_BO - that way you can check it later if things get weird
[06:16] <grayman_> florian, can add export before to do it global
[06:16] <mameluke> woodwizzle, never had problems with the sound?
[06:17] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, okey.i didn't know to use `cat'
[06:17] <woodwizzle> I'm sure you already check thed sound checkbox in the audio menu of wesnoth
[06:17] <woodwizzle> What version are you running/
[06:17] <mameluke> moment....
[06:17] <CarlFK> Alex_BO - also, create a .torrent of all the files, put that on the disk. burn 2, give one to a friend.  if one disk gets hosed, you can use BT to repair it.
[06:17] <mameluke> i've checked.. but will recheck
[06:17] <florian> grayman_, i am stilltraying to find out what you ment by "var=8"
[06:17] <florian> trying
[06:18] <grayman_> like
[06:18] <grayman_> width=8
[06:18] <Crazy_Man> stupid new kernel update
[06:18] <Gordon> german ubuntu channel ?? do it exist
[06:18] <Alex_BO> CarlFK: cool!the way of md5sum is cool
[06:18] <Alex_BO> CarlFK: thank you very much
[06:18] <florian> grayman_, i see, but where to get the 8, in other words the width, from?
[06:18] <Gordon> help because my englisch is very bad please help
[06:19] <Spec> Any one having trouble connecting to the repositories?
[06:19] <dmlinux> hey guys , how do i make Gdesklets run on startup ??
[06:19] <mameluke> woodwizzle, there are just scrollbars, and they are on maximum... its the version 0.8.11
[06:19] <Seveas> woodwizzle, weird though: did you do ln -s ~/Desktop ~/.Trash ?
[06:19] <woodwizzle> mamwlukw... wow thats old. Upgrade to 1.0 and see if that fixes it
[06:19] <grayman_> florian, you can use a program that will return that values
[06:20] <Se7h> Seveas  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2818
[06:20] <grayman_> florian, or set manually
[06:20] <woodwizzle> woops, w and e got swapped there
[06:20] <Se7h> its drivin me crazy
[06:20] <Gordon> wie komm ich in den deutschen kanal
[06:20] <woodwizzle> Seveas ... lemme check
[06:20] <mameluke> woodwizzle, hmmm.... i've installed it just with apt and the standard mirrors...
[06:20] <CarlFK> Alex_BO - here is mine: find ./ -follow \( -type f -or -type l \) -not -name "*.md5" -exec md5sum {} \;|tee index.md5
[06:20] <Seveas> Gordon, /join #ubuntu-de
[06:20] <woodwizzle> you might have to download the source and compile 1.0
[06:20] <mameluke> omg
[06:20] <mameluke> ic
[06:20] <Gordon> thank
[06:21] <edgarin> Hi
[06:21] <mameluke> woodwizzle, thx for the hint
[06:21] <woodwizzle> not thtat hard, just ./configure make and make install
[06:21] <florian> grayman_, I already tried "identify", but I was not able to figure out how to handle the result
[06:21] <woodwizzle> Seveas, dunno, how do I check?
[06:21] <Alex_BO> CarlFK, you are very kind
[06:21] <Seveas> woodwizzle, ls -al ~ | grep Trash
[06:22] <grayman_> florian, let me look at it
[06:22] <Se7h> Seveas plz have a look http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2818
[06:22] <woodwizzle> Seveas, nope not linked. They dont' show the same content, they show what the other should
[06:22] <torontoyes> Is it possible to burn an iso onto a dvd ? and run it fromt he dvd,. cause i ran out of regular cd's
[06:22] <torontoyes> ?
[06:22] <Se7h> we should get a number on join
[06:22] <Se7h> lol
[06:23] <Se7h> torontoyes sure
[06:23] <judah> hi. so after breezy updates last night my update-notifier has the little light bulb stuck stating it has a post update alert.. except there is no alert listed and the close and run action buttons don't work. just the big X ... killing.. restarting.. rebooting.. logging out and back in.. nothing clears it.
[06:23] <Seveas> torontoyes, you van mount an iso file too :)
[06:24] <avalost> judah, reboot probably just anew kernel messege
[06:24] <florian> grayman_, i.e. "identify bdw1128612098.jpg" returns "bdw1128612098.jpg JPEG 350x244 DirectClass 29kb 0.020u 0:01"
[06:24] <judah> no.. like i said.. been there done that.
[06:24] <judah> and no message is actually listed.
[06:24] <Skid> hmmm, i've a home lan - is it possible to route 192.168.1.105 via eth0 if it's up, and if not eth1, as normal?
[06:24] <avalost> oh have you tried to run an apt-get update
[06:24] <torontoyes> Seveas: I realize I can mount an iso,. but I'd have to mount it from windows,. as thats the OS I'm in,.
[06:24] <avalost> then upgrade?
[06:24] <Seveas> woodwizzle, you've got me puzzled, no idea what's going on there. Maybe logout+login works?
[06:24] <judah> avalost: yep.
[06:24] <Skid> (i.e. so i can send at gig, rather than fe )
[06:24] <avalost> weird
[06:24] <judah> even had 24 new updates this morning.
[06:24] <judah> yeah weird.
[06:24] <torontoyes> I am removing windows and sticking with linux
[06:25] <Seveas> torontoyes, very wise :)
[06:25] <torontoyes> I don't know if ubuntu is the best thing to use,.
[06:25] <Seveas> it is :)
[06:25] <torontoyes> but I guess I'll find out.
[06:25] <judah> torontoyes: you won't be disapointed.
[06:25] <Se7h> uhum
[06:25] <judah> torontoyes: but wait until breezy is live. "teh bomb"
[06:25] <yancheng> hello, anyone had encounter problem in installing glade-gnome-2? i get the error while installing :
[06:25] <yancheng> glade-gnome-2:
[06:25] <yancheng> Depends: libgda2-1 but it is not going to be installed
[06:25] <yancheng> Depends: libgnomedb2-3 but it is not going to be installed
[06:26] <Se7h> !pastebin
[06:26] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:26] <judah> avalost: so any other ideas?
[06:26] <avalost> not at the moment
[06:26] <torontoyes> Is ubuntu better to use for a Noob than Mandrake?
[06:26] <Seveas> yancheng, paste your sources.list on the pastebin
[06:26] <Seveas> torontoyes, much better
[06:26] <torontoyes> really
[06:26] <avalost> torontoyes, about the same
[06:26] <Se7h> Seveas any ideas on that apt prob?
[06:26] <torontoyes> Ubuntu only has one cd to downlaod
[06:26] <Seveas> Se7h, well, looks like the eclips packages are quite broken
[06:27] <yancheng> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2819
[06:27] <avalost> ubuntu tends tobe less bloated
[06:27] <pont> has anyone reported any problems when updating breezy beta that gnome wont start and it freezes X11
[06:27] <Seveas> torontoyes, the rest is easily installable on an installed system
[06:27] <Seveas> VERY easily even
[06:27] <pont> well it frezes the computer
[06:27] <yancheng> Seveas: I saw there is another package named glade-2 from Development (universe), which is not official supported. should i use that one instead of glade-gnome-2
[06:27] <Seveas> Ubuntu has over 17000 pieces of software
[06:27] <mindspore> How's the installer in Breezy?
[06:27] <torontoyes> avalost: I am using an older machine,. but quite solid,. PIII 500 256mb Ram
[06:27] <Seveas> torontoyes, that'll run ubuntu just fine :)
[06:27] <Se7h> Seveas the major problem here is: /usr/sbin/update-gcj-classmaps-eclipse: No such file or directory
[06:27] <avalost> torontoyes, it's all a matter for preference
[06:27] <torontoyes> I have an Intel Motherboard, my machine is the fastest PIII 500 I know
[06:28] <Seveas> Se7h, that one is in the eclipse-rcp package, that's why I told you to install that one :)
[06:28] <avalost> I have run most major distros, mandriva and ubuntu are similar in ease of use but have different approaches
[06:28] <torontoyes> Anyway,. umm,. how should I setup my partitoins
[06:28] <judah> sweet it just crashed this time when i clicked on it
[06:28] <CarlFK> my gf just got a a usb cd burner.  when she plugs it in, will Gnome baker need to be told about it, or will it find it?
[06:28] <avalost> use the auto-setup feature
[06:29] <Seveas> yancheng, try disabling backports
[06:29] <Se7h> Seveas ye, but installing that will fetch some other stuff
[06:29] <avalost> the settings are fine for most uses
[06:29] <Se7h> ok, i'll try another way
[06:30] <avalost> mandriva 2006 is quite spiffy in relation to releases of the past, it would prbably suit you to check out both and see what works for you
[06:30] <avalost> everyone has different needs yanno
[06:31] <torontoyes> All i need linux for is my home desktop,. Utilize a word Processor,. do some web development,. thats about it.
[06:31] <thrice`> RC out =] 
[06:31] <avalost> ubuntu would be fine then
[06:31] <biezt_linux> ubuntu is great :D
[06:31] <biezt_linux> tbh
[06:31] <torontoyes> avalost: whats a really good development suite for Web Development?
[06:32] <avalost> torontoyes, I use quanta plus, screem and NVU and bluefish
[06:32] <avalost> all have their merits
[06:32] <kennethlove> scite!
[06:32] <torontoyes> indeed
[06:32] <avalost> i'm not a fan of scite though
[06:32] <torontoyes> I have tried quanta and NVU,. i have not tried Bluefish or sreem,.
[06:32] <thrice`> wow, they got gnome 2.12.1 into breezy RC
[06:33] <thrice`> that musta been the delay :)
[06:33] <kennethlove> you could try eclipse and jedit, if you're wanting to give everything a shake
[06:33] <avalost> bluefish & quanta are my two go-to editors
[06:33] <[LethAL] > ANybody know why I can't install arwiz-cursor on breezy?
[06:33] <torontoyes> Ahh yes,. Eclips
[06:33] <torontoyes> Eclipse
[06:34] <torontoyes> I have heard of one other, I don't think its free though Komodo
[06:34] <avalost> never tried it..
[06:34] <kennethlove> yeah, me neither.
[06:34] <yancheng> Seveas: great! that's work. bt may i noe why it work?
[06:36] <Se7h> damn this is getting realy annoying
[06:38] <kennethlove> what port does NFS connect on, anyone know?
[06:38] <Spec> Any one else have trouble reaching the repositories
[06:38] <Skid> nop
[06:38] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i want to download some songs on a webpage, i'm guessing wget is a good programme to use, what would be the command to do this?
[06:38] <Shin_Gouki> hi anyone want to help me to get an SPC player under ubuntu running?
[06:38] <sexcopter8000m> they're all mp3s
[06:39] <nubbe> Any thoughts why the 5.10 RC torrent i386 is stalled?
[06:39] <gverig> Hi! I have just installed few "universe" games. How can I add them to the "Applications" menu?
[06:39] <kennethlove> sexcopter8000m: you'd probably be better off with cURL than with wget
[06:39] <sexcopter8000m> ok, thanks kennethlove i shall investigate
[06:40] <puff> Hm, anybody familiar with IDEA?  I'm trying to import a project and it's not acting the way I expect it to.
[06:40] <sexcopter8000m> gverig: not sure, but i think that's a real downer with hoary, you can't edit the menus (am i right?)
[06:40] <sexcopter8000m> but you can make a launcher
[06:40] <nubbe> sexcopter8000m, u can use smeg
[06:40] <gverig> sexcopter8000m: Yeah, I can. But want to edit menus :)
[06:40] <sexcopter8000m> oh, ok my bad
[06:40] <wezzer> woohoo, it's only a week to breezy's release!
[06:41] <puff> Whoops, sorry, wrong channel.
[06:41] <gverig> nubbe: Who is smeg and what does it do (how does it work)?
[06:42] <pierro> what does ubuntu use for sound ? alsa ?
[06:42] <nubbe> gverig, it's a menu-editor, not perfect but better than nothing
[06:43] <gverig> nubbe: What package has it? I can't find it in synaptic
[06:44] <gverig> Am I the only one who finds that it is stupid that menu is that hard to access?
[06:44] <Toba> the kernel update that came out awhile back if failing on my system
[06:44] <Toba> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.6_i386.deb
[06:44] <Toba>   MD5Sum mismatch
[06:44] <nubbe> gverig, I got it from backports, don't know if it's in uni or multiverse
[06:44] <Toba> any ideas about what I can do about that?
[06:46] <Crazy_Man> anyone else having trouble with the new Breezy update?
[06:47] <daveo> Crazy_Man: I've having tons of trouble with the new update
[06:48] <lakin> By default where does ubuntu put pictures uploaded from a digital camera?
[06:48] <Myrtti> it puts them somewhere?
[06:48] <Myrtti> :->
[06:49] <sexcopter8000m> ok kennethlove or anyone else, I've got cURL and can't see an easy syntax to download all the mp3 files off a given webpage... any help?
[06:49] <jjgod> Hi, will RC1 be released today?
[06:50] <judah> !pastebin
[06:50] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:50] <torontoyes> I am having probs buring the ubuntu iso to a dvd
[06:51] <funkyHat> i'm following the ubuntu wiki on setting up samba, and it tells me to add settings in the networking setup
[06:51] <nubbe> jjgod, it's already out
[06:51] <funkyHat> the options aren't there though
[06:51] <torontoyes> how do I burn an iso to dvdr cd ?
[06:52] <Nvidiot> I'm running apt-get and it tells me: The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386.
[06:52] <Nvidiot> What's that about ?
[06:52] <GDorn> they didn't pass and have to take the 4th grade over again.
[06:52] <gverig> Do I need any of the "source" repos if I do not plan on building anything from source? Is there any software that's not in bin?
[06:52] <Nvidiot> GDorn: yeah, something like that I figured lol
[06:53] <funkyHat> wow... new kernel again....
[06:53] <funkyHat> it's like there's an update every day! lol
[06:53] <eliphas_> yeah?
[06:53] <Nvidiot> oo! New bootscreen :D
[06:53] <[LethAL] > Hehe
[06:53] <Nvidiot> looks neato
[06:53] <Nvidiot> cute progress bar and all
[06:53] <eliphas_> really ?
[06:53] <Denski> good evening
[06:53] <eliphas_> a new spalscreen ?
[06:53] <[LethAL] > Nvidiot, USpash isn't new
[06:53] <funkyHat> Nvidiot, not really that new ;)
[06:53] <eliphas_> spash
[06:54] <Nvidiot> I didn't have that before tho
[06:54] <gverig> backports repo from http://ubuntuguide.org/ is not available :( Anybody knows an alternative?
[06:54] <judah> anyone else update-notifier freaking out on them after updates from yesterday?
[06:54] <[LethAL] > judah, bulb with no suggestions?
[06:54] <funkyHat> Nvidiot, do you have a vga= setting in your boot.lst?
[06:54] <judah> [LethAL] : YES!
[06:54] <[LethAL] > judah, me too
[06:54] <judah> doh!
[06:54] <Nvidiot> funkyHat: if I do then the last kernel update added it
[06:54] <judah> 'sup with that?
[06:54] <judah> i can't clear that sucker.. no way no how.
[06:54] <Denski> does anyone know how to install java runtime???? ubuntu hoary?
[06:55] <[LethAL] > !javadebs
[06:55] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, [LethAL] 
[06:55] <funkyHat> Nvidiot, it won't have done, that would be a possible reason why the splash screen had only just appeared
[06:55] <[LethAL] > wth
[06:55] <[LethAL] > !java
[06:55] <ubotu> it has been said that java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[06:55] <Nvidiot> Denski: RestrictedFormat wiki, use the one from sun and create your own deb file
[06:55] <judah> [LethAL] : the close and run this action now buttons don't work either?
[06:55] <Denski> sorry im a newbie...its a bin file on sun website right? how do i create a deb??? alien???
[06:56] <Nvidiot> no vga= setting
[06:56] <Nvidiot> Denski: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[06:56] <[LethAL] > !tell Denski about javadeb
[06:56] <judah> [LethAL] : any idea where those bits are kept that it checks for those messages.. maybe it's just an errant xml entry.
[06:56] <mshade> guys, how do I keep gam_server from being used?
[06:56] <Nvidiot> anyone know why mplayer-386 doesn't want to be updated ?
[06:56] <[LethAL] > !tell Denski about dpkg
[06:56] <[LethAL] > judah, could be...
[06:57] <Shin_Gouki> who is a Linux sound freak and wants to waste a bit of time helpin me? to install an spc player on ubuntu?
[06:58] <spiral> hmmm, I have to use a home-built kernel under ubuntu in order to get some of my laptop's hardware to be properly handled...
[06:58] <spiral> how could I give you informations about this so that maybe someday I could use default kernel ?
[06:59] <nerdy2> mshade, why?
[07:00] <mshade> nerdy2: because i leave my machine running and it gobbles up 47.5% of my 1GB ram?
[07:00] <Nvidiot> mshade: that's filecaching, which is perfectly normal and speeds things up actually
[07:00] <fr500> spiral, what hw?
[07:01] <mshade> Nvidiot: why then, doesn't it show up as cached memory?  instead of allocated
[07:01] <gverig> Anybody knows if I can use warty backports instead of hoary?
[07:01] <judah> mshade: run free -m  and check out your -/+ buffers/cache line
[07:01] <mshade> judah: that's exactly what I did.
[07:02] <spiral> fr500: medion laptop with sk98lin network card, sata chip, snd-hda-intel sound & so on...
[07:02] <mshade> before killing gam_server:
[07:02] <fr500> ohhhh
[07:02] <mshade> Mem:          1012        962         50          0         52        148
[07:02] <fr500> spiral, sounds complex
[07:02] <mshade> after killing gam_server: Mem:          1012        480        531          0         52        148
[07:02] <dmlinux> hey guys, i installed flash the other day,  and now i cant see TEXT  on some websites...?? Any ideas
[07:02] <spiral> fr500: yeah, that's why I compile my own kernel :-/
[07:02] <[LethAL] > Does anyone know why my LiteON Combo SOHC-5232K CD-RW/DVD-ROM doesn't burn CD's properly? Just prepares to do it and then 'finishes'
[07:03] <fr500> spiral, i think there is a page for that, and the ubuntu device database probably helps
[07:03] <dmlinux> hey guys, i installed flash the other day,  and now i cant see TEXT  on some websites...?? Any ideas
[07:03] <Denski> thanks
[07:04] <mshade> so then, is there a way to disable gam_server?
[07:04] <mshade> attempting to remove it with sudo apt-get remove gamin... proposes to remove 2/3 of my useful applications
[07:04] <nerdy2> mshade, note that a lot of it is buffers/cache
[07:05] <mshade> nerdy2: 148 mb
[07:05] <nalioth> mshade: gam_server is a critical part of your system
[07:05] <spiral> fr500: I shall look atthis
[07:05] <nerdy2> here the RSS of gam_server is about 1MB
[07:05] <mshade> nerdy2: here, it was up to ~400
[07:05] <nerdy2> the RSS ?
[07:06] <judah> [LethAL] : i fixed it!
[07:06] <mshade> nerdy2: here is what ps aux|grep gam_server reported:
[07:06] <Se7h> ok, i guess i'll have to w8 for a fix in this crap
[07:06] <mshade> mike     23755  0.0 47.5 494636 493400 ?       S    Oct05   0:41 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server
[07:06] <[LethAL] > judah, Oh?
[07:06] <mshade> nerdy2: and after killing it ~400 MB of active ram was cleared
[07:06] <judah> [LethAL] : toast your .update-notifier directory and log out and back in.
[07:06] <mshade> this is far too much for 'file caching'
[07:06] <judah> [LethAL] : then it posts the message and you can clear it.
[07:06] <[LethAL] > judah, Make me some toast, I don't have any
[07:07] <nerdy2> mshade, yes you're right, that's not right,  my line is : jeff      9339  0.5  0.2   2840  1492 ?        S    01:05   3:40 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server
[07:07] <judah> [LethAL] : i make enough toast for my prego wife..
[07:07] <[LethAL] > judah, as in command not found...
[07:07] <Nvidiot> The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386. Why?
[07:07] <nerdy2> mshade, is your /home NFS mounted?
[07:07] <mshade> nerdy2: I have 3 NFS shares mounted, but not my home
[07:07] <damg> hi, can anyone tell me how i can install (k)ubuntu (5.04) on a toshiba m50? the installation progress just hangs on 98%/activating pc-card system ...
[07:08] <mshade> nerdy2: they are 3 data drives from a slackware file server
[07:08] <Ghoat> I installed realplayer 10, nothing happens when you run it, where is the gui?
[07:08] <mshade> nerdy2: two 150GB partitions and one 400GB partition
[07:09] <nerdy2> mshade, are they under /mnt or /media?
[07:10] <mshade> nerdy2: I have them mounted under /share/{1,2,3}
[07:10] <damg> anyone?
[07:11] <mshade> damg: when launching the installer, look through the boot options (Fkeys).  there should be an option to disable pcmcia for the installer.
[07:11] <nerdy2> mshade, do you have inotify enabled in the kernel?
[07:11] <mshade> damg: after you're installed you should be able to enable pcmcia services.
[07:11] <mshade> nerdy2: I'm running the stock ubuntu 5.10 kernel, I'm not sure whether inotify is enabled in that or not?  it's not an option i'm familiar with.
[07:11] <damg> i cant install, msshade, it hangs on 98% while detecting the hardware during installation
[07:12] <concept10> Ghoat, I have the same problem.  Its a problem with the installation
[07:12] <mshade> damg: you said it hangs while trying to initiate pcmcia services.. disable them for the install.
[07:12] <damg> msshade, wha options do i have to submit to boot: to deactivate them?
[07:12] <damg> +t
[07:12] <nerdy2> mshade, i think it's compiled in, but i don't know if it's enabled by default [i have a lilo.conf which passes a boot-time option to enable it, and i had to make /dev/inotify for it as well] 
[07:12] <mshade> damg: look through the boot options with the F1 F2 F3 keys
[07:13] <judah> mshade: grep NOTIFY /boot/config-`uname -r`
[07:13] <damg> ok, rebooting :D
[07:13] <damg> thx
[07:13] <mshade> judah: INOTIFY is enabled
[07:13] <nerdy2> mshade, have you looked at the memory maps of gam_server to see what's the memory usage?
[07:13] <nerdy2> [what's taking up that 400MB in other words] 
[07:13] <florian> why does echo `expr 2 * 2` tell me 'expr: syntax error' ?
[07:13] <mshade> nerdy2: beyond its ps aux entry and free -m, no
[07:13] <concept10> Ghoat, When the application is installed, it runs through a debconf dialog box.  You have to specify where the program is located at in this config.
[07:14] <nerdy2> mshade, that might be instructive, you could at least check what's making it go haywire,   for this you'd look in /proc/`pidof gam_server`/maps
[07:15] <mshade> nerdy2: thanks for that tip.  I'll check that out.
[07:15] <vbgunz_> anyone know of a program that can read AiRoboForm passcards on Linux?
[07:15] <vbgunz_> anyone know of a alternative to AiRoboForm on Ubuntu?
[07:15] <ky0nce> florian: escape the * like \*
[07:15] <[LethAL] > revelation
[07:15] <[LethAL] > !info revelation
[07:15] <ubotu> revelation: (GNOME2 Password manager), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3.4-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 81 kB, Installed size: 424 kB
[07:16] <florian> thanx
[07:16] <judah> [LethAL] : did that work for you too?
[07:16] <[LethAL] > vbgunz_, there are also firefox plugins for a similar function
[07:16] <[LethAL] > judah, as I said, I have no toast
[07:16] <Ghoat> concept:can I view this debconf dialog box?
[07:16] <Futrzaq> hello
[07:16] <mshade> nerdy2: now to try to 'accelerate' the problem heh
[07:16] <judah> you mean you don't have that directory in your home dir?
[07:16] <judah> rm -rf ~/.update-notifier
[07:17] <vbgunz_> lethal, thank you, *but* nothing that can at least read the roboform cards correct?
[07:17] <nerdy2> mshade, also, fwiw http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/config.html [and maybe other pages there]  could be useful,  if gamin is getting confused polling your nfs mounts too often, or something else, you may be able to override it
[07:17] <[LethAL] > vbgunz_, probably not
[07:17] <mshade> nerdy2: thanks for the link.  I'm mainly familiar with slackware, which doesn't use these sorts of tools
[07:17] <vbgunz_> lethal, thank you, I have to try and export them all to text, I hope something works ;P
[07:18] <logikal_> Hi guys
[07:18] <nerdy2> mshade, well gam_server is a relatively new thing which is integral in the gnome desktop
[07:18] <logikal_> I just installed ubuntu
[07:18] <Futrzaq> i've got a question which is not related to ubuntu at all, but please, help me ; ) I'm writing my resume in english, what am I supposed to put at the end, that I agree to copy and store my personal detail and so on... ?
[07:18] <[LethAL] > logikal_, Well done :D
[07:18] <logikal_> I want to make ubuntu look better, what can I do?
[07:18] <logikal_> hahah
[07:18] <Futrzaq> www.gnome-look.org
[07:18] <judah> geezuz.. the brown rulez..
[07:18] <logikal_> it wasn't hard it all, it just seems to work unlike other distros
[07:18] <funkyHat> logikal_, system > Preferences > themes
[07:19] <jkrogh> Anyone using "xterm" in Breezy?
[07:19] <dm_> hey guys
[07:19] <funkyHat> if you haven't been there already
[07:19] <nerdy2> mshade, specifically it allows one to figure out when files are modified [it's a FAM server] ,  so if you can't figure out what's wrong there's always famd, but i'd recommend trying to fix gam_server first
[07:19] <logikal_> Yeah
[07:19] <vbgunz_> logikal_ yup gnome-look and gnome-art at www.gnome.org are two places to start
[07:19] <logikal_> Im using xIRC in breezy
[07:19] <funkyHat> xIRC?
[07:19] <dm_> Whats the repository for Java plug in?? when i follow ubuntuguide.org ther repos they gave me all come up with errors
[07:19] <mshade> nerdy2: hmmm ok
[07:19] <logikal_> xCHat IRC
[07:19] <logikal_> whatever came with it..
[07:19] <funkyHat> ah xchat :)
[07:20] <logikal_> Just this human theme is a bit bland
[07:20] <nerdy2> mshade, [reasons to fix gam_server:  famd is more network aware, it uses RPC, and i hate to run portmap or have anything listening on ports :),  gam_server can use inotify rather than polling, which is a better kernel interface for notifications, it doesn't require opening a fd, and can be a bit finer grained ... so if you aren't using inotify this is maybe something to check out when you get bored :)] 
[07:20] <dm_> Whats the repository for Java plug in?? when i follow ubuntuguide.org ther repos they gave me all come up with errors
[07:20] <NoUse> !tell dm_ about java
[07:21] <dm_> noUse ??
[07:21] <mshade> nerdy2: well, i have to run rpc.portmap to mount the nfs shares
[07:21] <bpf> !tell bpf about java
[07:21] <nerdy2> mshade, that's true :)
[07:21] <mshade> nerdy2: so I wouldn't call that a drawback in my particular scenario
[07:21] <mshade> :)
[07:21] <logikal_> Well guys, the largest resolution it will shot me is 1024x768
[07:21] <dm_> !tell dm_ about java
[07:21] <NoUse> dm_ read what ubotu sent you
[07:21] <logikal_> I need a larger res, im on a 21 inch monitor
[07:21] <[LethAL] > !tell logikal_ about fixres
[07:21] <vbgunz_> logikal, not on Ubuntu at the moment but look in your xorg.conf file I believe...
[07:22] <logikal_> thanks
[07:22] <logikal_> you guys are hepfucl
[07:22] <logikal_> helpful
[07:22] <logikal_> If i could type durrh.
[07:23] <nerdy2> mshade, the desktop applications for this are hopefully obvious:  the panel can keep track of your list of recently opened files by monitoring the file with the list,  your music player can monitor ~/Music and get updated if you rip another cd or whatever, your desktop search/indexing tool can get updated if files get modified to reindex them [beagle plays this role, but isn't installed by default] 
[07:23] <dm_> noUse, when i do apt-get it says cant find package
[07:23] <[[[sPeEd] > good evening...do you know how can i edit the my video card settings?
[07:23] <[LethAL] > [[[sPeEd] , resolution problems?
[07:23] <[[[sPeEd] > i use hoary
[07:23] <nerdy2> mshade, so it's useful :), but hopefully you can make gam_server behave [or install famd]  :)
[07:23] <NoUse> dm_ did you read the link I sent?
[07:23] <dm_> NoUse Yes
[07:23] <[[[sPeEd] > adapter, change driver
[07:23] <[LethAL] > [[[sPeEd] , eh?
[07:23] <mshade> nerdy2: switching to famd, would I need to recompile many of the gnome apps?
[07:24] <cybawurm> 7 days
[07:24] <logikal_> any of you guys use xchat?
[07:24] <ky0nce> Is anyone using apt-proxy on ubuntu? In particular is apt-proxy-import working? I get a no suitable backend error.
[07:24] <cybawurm> ^^
[07:24] <[[[sPeEd] > lethal, can i change the adapters? like vesa something? sorry im newbir
[07:24] <[LethAL] > logikal_, I certainly do
[07:24] <[LethAL] > [[[sPeEd] , Not quite sure what you mean...
[07:24] <NoUse> dm_ follow the instructions for Sun Java
[07:24] <[LethAL] > Still
[07:24] <nerdy2> mshade, i think you shouldn't  (there's a limfam which comes with both gamin, and famd, and the apps just dynamically link it, so ld does all the work)
[07:24] <logikal_> ?
[07:25] <dm_> NoUse,  tahts installing as we speak
[07:25] <logikal_> Im adjusting my colors
[07:25] <logikal_> I like a black background
[07:25] <nerdy2> mshade, libfam, not limfam, obviously :)
[07:25] <logikal_> Hmm
[07:25] <mshade> nerdy2: alright then
[07:25] <[[[sPeEd] > [LethAL] , id like to change the video mode to vesa???
[07:25] <logikal_> How do I change MY text color?
[07:26] <dm_> NoUse im installing java because i cant seem to see text on some websites, Is not having java that problem??
[07:26] <vbgunz_> lethal, I found this on the mozdev.org site, this looks perfectly genious, http://passwordmaker.org/ do you use this or another password manager?
[07:26] <nalioth> [[[sPeEd] : open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" adn choose the VESA driver
[07:26] <[LethAL] > vbgunz_, I don't bothere with a password manager, I have a good enough memory
[07:26] <vbgunz_> lethal, do you have a recommendation I guess i am asking
[07:27] <vbgunz_> lethal, ahh, you have a brain, good ;)
[07:27] <mshade> nerdy2: so pardon my ignorance, but what would be the difference between poll and notify settings for gamin?
[07:27] <[LethAL] > vbgunz_, no I don't
[07:27] <logikal_> guys
[07:27] <logikal_> How do i get to the console?
[07:27] <[LethAL] > vbgunz_, sudo /etc/init.d/brain [failed] 
[07:27] <logikal_> lol
[07:27] <logikal_> Im a KDE user..
[07:28] <n00bster> hi all, What  Norton Ghost Vertion Can Backup ext3 Partition? (I trayed  7, dident worked)
[07:28] <dm_> Does anyone have the problem of not seeing text on some websites ?????
[07:28] <[LethAL] > logikal_, It's canlled konsole
[07:28] <[LethAL] > called*
[07:28] <logikal_> where is it?
[07:28] <vbgunz_> Norton Ghost 9 can backup EXT3 from Windows
[07:28] <[LethAL] > logikal_, system iirc
[07:28] <n00bster> OK, Dos It Have A GHOST.EXE Small File That I Can Boot From Floppy ?
[07:28] <nerdy2> mshade, poll would use the poll(2) system call : this has a few drawbacks, one being you have to have an open fd [which means you may hit the fd limit if it's not high] 
[07:29] <Shin_Gouki> hi which script/shell language would be probably best for customizing startup ubuntu?
[07:29] <florian> is it possible to calculate 3/4 in the shell?
[07:29] <[LethAL] > florian, bc -l
[07:29] <dmlinux> hey guys, i installed flash the other day,  and now i cant see TEXT  on some websites...?? Any ideas
[07:29] <florian> thanx ;=
[07:29] <vbgunz_> n00bster: Ghost 9 is based on something other than Ghost... Symantec blew out booting from floppy but it Ghost no longer works like it use too
[07:29] <nerdy2> mshade, notify would use the kernel notification interface ...  there was an older one called dnotify, which also had some issues, and the newer one called inotify which is better [no open fd's, you can get finer grained control, it's really neat] 
[07:29] <vbgunz_> I believe the new Ghost is based on DriveImage or something like it
[07:30] <mshade> nerdy2: hmm ok
[07:30] <nerdy2> mshade, so presumably notify would use either dnotify or inotify [preferring inotify] , whichever is present
[07:30] <phaer> PHP tells me "Fatal error: Call to undefined function: start_session() in /var/www/index.php on line 11", on my ubuntusystem, but it works well on FreeBSD, so i think there's an extra package needed for php-sessions, do you know which one?
[07:31] <NoUse> dmlinux try installing gsfonts gsfonts-x11 and msttcorefonts
[07:31] <Seveas> phaer, #php and it's session_start()
[07:31] <mshade> nerdy2: according to my config, both are enabled -- i just added a 'notify /share/*'
[07:31] <dmlinux> NoUse, the apt get?
[07:31] <luite> n00bster: it's now based on driveimage, if you are familiar with that, you know what you can expect
[07:31] <mshade> nerdy2: rule to .gaminrc -- so let's see if that helps
[07:31] <NoUse> dmlinux yeah use apt-get or synaptic
[07:31] <phaer> Seveas: O_o thanks...
[07:31] <mshade> nerdy2: you were mentioning a kernel /dev/inotify device needs to be enabled ..
[07:31] <logikal_> Lol
[07:32] <logikal_> I still cant find the konsole
[07:32] <nerdy2> mshade, to get inotify working, it first has to be compiled in to the kernel [that's fine with the stock one] , and then it has to be enabled [i dunno if this happens by default, but passing the boot option "inotify" will work, you can check dmesg to see if you get a message saying inotify's enabled]  and you have to have /dev/inotify   (mknod /dev/inotify c 10 63)
[07:32] <florian> is there also a possibility to round a real number?
[07:32] <cevizoglu>  does anyone know a good wiki or web page/doc on burn-in on a xserver before putting it to use?
[07:32] <cevizoglu> er, I mean server
[07:32] <Shin_Gouki> hi which script/shell language would be probably best for customizing startup ubuntu?
[07:32] <logikal_> wow , 463 updates
[07:32] <dmlinux> NoUse do you think that is my problem?
[07:32] <nerdy2> mshade, then the inotify file notification just works by doing ioctl's on /dev/inotify as far as i understand it
[07:33] <NoUse> dmlinux I remember having a similar problem and that solved it
[07:34] <mshade> nerdy2: what should permissions on /dev/inotify be
[07:34] <nerdy2> mshade, that's a good q, just a sec :)
[07:35] <dmlinux> NoUse do i need to restart X?
[07:36] <[[[sPeEd] > wow thanks [LethAL] 
[07:36] <[LethAL] > ?
[07:36] <LokeDK> will upgrade to breezy skrew up my wireless settings?
[07:36] <dmlinux> NoUse sweet that fixed it Thanks man !!
[07:37] <florian> is there a possibility to round a real number in the shell?
[07:37] <vbgunz_> LokeDK, imho, Breezy has better support for wireless connections... *but* be wary I suppose...
[07:37] <anivair> LokeDK: hard to say.  It seems almost anyhting can screw a wireless setting up anymore.
[07:37] <Shin_Gouki> florian can u use C?
[07:37] <florian> i never tried..
[07:37] <LokeDK> Oh okay.. well I'll take the chance
[07:38] <NoUse> dmlinux no prob
[07:38] <logikal_> Could someone tell me where i can find the Konsole ? lol
[07:38] <anivair> I think it's worth the chance, personally
[07:38] <nerdy2> mshade, you only need to be able to open /dev/inotify readonly, so 644 is fine
[07:39] <antisocialboris> how do i set up dc++?
[07:39] <mshade> nerdy2: thanks
[07:39] <[[[sPeEd] > is samba the same as nfs when it comes to network file sharing?
[07:40] <nerdy2> mshade, if you are curious, i found this site http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-inotify.html
[07:40] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : no, there are a couple of differences
[07:40] <[[[sPeEd] > mshade, like?
[07:40] <LokeDK> where's breezy backports?
[07:40] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : for example, you can export multiple mountpoints under nfs as 1 share -- you have to use separate shares for separate mount points.  with samba, the entire tree can be exported
[07:40] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : that's one example.
[07:40] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : nfs tends to be more efficient
[07:41] <silent_scream> I have a prob with point to play: i mount the cd and I click on the istall button and nothing happens
[07:41] <[[[sPeEd] > oh ok so nfs is better than samba
[07:41] <[[[sPeEd] > thanks
[07:41] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : nfs is easier to deal with on *nix boxes
[07:41] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : on my fileserver, i run both samba and nfs.. nfs for the *nix clients and samba for the windows clients, though *nix could use either
[07:41] <[[[sPeEd] > mshade, can it share it windows network?
[07:42] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : nfs, not natively.  smb, yes
[07:42] <[[[sPeEd] > mshade, oh ok
[07:42] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : i think there are ways to get nfs to share to windows, but samba is much easier
[07:42] <antisocialboris> anyone know anything about dc++?
[07:42] <mshade> brb all
[07:43] <erUSUL> mshade: install sfu (free from m$) and win can mount nfs shares
[07:43] <[[[sPeEd] > mshade, thanks, im really having trouble to see the files in windows....there's this one time that when i accessed hoary, it asked for a password
[07:44] <pc22> do linux have virus/worm threats?
[07:44] <Chousuke> No.
[07:44] <anivair> not really
[07:44] <anivair> rather: very few
[07:44] <Chousuke> none active :/
[07:44] <anivair> it's really hard to write viruses for linux due to root permissions
[07:44] <pc22> im curious
[07:44] <anivair> among other things
[07:44] <[[[sPeEd] > so there's still some virus on linux?
[07:45] <anivair> none that I know of
[07:45] <Chousuke> [[[sPeEd] : it's old. and dead.
[07:45] <anivair> there have been in the past (very few) and I suspect there will be some in the future, but I don't think there are any out now
[07:45] <Chousuke> Except you can still propagate windows viruses if you accidentally send infected files via mail
[07:45] <Chousuke> I think linux has had maybe a dozen worms and viruses.
[07:46] <anivair> anyone can propogate a windows virus if they send it as an attachment
[07:46] <samu2> Gah, my cdrom drive is locked...
[07:46] <Chousuke> yeah
[07:46] <[[[sPeEd] > does linux have antivirus?
[07:46] <Chousuke> yes
[07:46] <Chousuke> for windows viruses.
[07:46] <anivair> but don't mistake that for linux being able to "have" a virus to which is is immune and then "spread" that virus around.  I heard that the other day and it's hogwash
[07:46] <[[[sPeEd] > what do you mean>
[07:46] <Chousuke> that dozen is not much compared to the few hundred thousand that exist for windows
[07:47] <silent_scream> is anybody  occupied with cedega or point2play?
[07:47] <samu2> I accidentally found a command called eject.
[07:47] <anivair> linux has programs that strip windows viruses out of email and things so you can't spread them unknowingly through mail
[07:47] <mshade> anivair: the only way *nix could spread a win virus is probably by acting as a fileserver to the virus.. meaning a windows binary on a fileserver being infected
[07:47] <Chousuke> [[[sPeEd] : It's installed on servers, to filter windows viruses out of mail, mostly.
[07:47] <zack_> anivair, just keep your system updated u shouldnt have any problems
[07:47] <Chousuke> and oh!
[07:47] <samu2> But it says cdrom0 is busy...
[07:47] <Chousuke> you can install some viruses in WINE!
[07:47] <[[[sPeEd] > oh ok
[07:48] <samu2> How can I found out whats locking up my cdrom?
[07:48] <zack_> i suggest updating ubuntu once a week.. for proformance increases
[07:48] <anivair> agreed . . . but hearing someone talking about colmputer viruses like they were physical viruses the other day made me almost choke.  I just wanted to clarrify that that isn't the case before people get to talking
[07:48] <Chousuke> But installing the viruses is difficult, and they rarely work :(
[07:48] <mshade> samu2: if you're in the cdrom's directory, or have a file manager open to it, it's 'busy'
[07:48] <logikal_> You guys have a theme site you like?
[07:48] <logikal_> for ubuntu?
[07:48] <mshade> samu2: leave the directory or close the file manager and try 'eject' again
[07:48] <[[[sPeEd] > gotta go
[07:48] <[[[sPeEd] > c ya
[07:48] <[[[sPeEd] > thanks guys
[07:48] <anivair> have you unmounted your cdrom before ejecting it?
[07:48] <Chousuke> zack_: after the stable is out, it doesn't hurt to check for updates every day.
[07:48] <_bodhi_> hi
[07:48] <vbgunz_> logikal_: You didn't like www.gnome-look.org or www.gnome.org?
[07:48] <anivair> you can't be in that directory or using it
[07:48] <Ofe> samu2: go to root-terminal and type /eject or eject. worked with me.
[07:48] <mshade> anivair: eject will unmount it for you.
[07:49] <logikal_> well
[07:49] <logikal_> let me try gnome.org
[07:49] <anivair> really?  did not know that
[07:49] <samu2> Ok, now it just worked suddenly.
[07:49] <anivair> then likely he was in that directory
[07:49] <mshade> samu2: sometimes nautilus will keep it open after it's closed for a little bit
[07:49] <anivair> oops . . . woirk now
[07:49] <mshade> yeah, sometimes there's a bit of lag
[07:49] <zack_> what was that one virus that was out not to long ago
[07:49] <boxman> the thing randomly freezes up when i for example drag and drop a file to another program like xmms..
[07:49] <_bodhi_> any1 out there can tell me how I can get my Epia M10000 TV-Out (SVideo port) working with 5.04 and 5.10
[07:49] <zack_> it had to do with bitch chat and phpbb
[07:49] <Chousuke> boxman: sounds serious.
[07:49] <logikal_> I really need to fix my resoultion first, but I can't find the Konsole....
[07:50] <boxman> the gfx card/xorg locks completly with the exception of mouse pointer
[07:50] <boxman> while other things goes on..
[07:50] <vbgunz_> logikal, I have a beautiful theme comprised from theme parts of both sites... I couldn't use anyone site to come up with a theme I thought was really nice...
[07:50] <boxman> i can login in using ssh, but killing xorg dosent do a shit
[07:50] <boxman> reset=only option :(
[07:50] <Chousuke> boxman: what display driver do you use?
[07:50] <boxman> the nvidia ones on apt
[07:50] <mshade> boxman: try init 1 and then init 5
[07:50] <boxman> breeze
[07:50] <Chousuke> if it's ati or nvidia binary drivers, they might be causing trouble.
[07:50] <boxman> 7667 i think
[07:51] <Chousuke> Binary drivers are evil
[07:51] <boxman> but i used those drivers under debian linux as well, without those problems.
[07:51] <Chousuke> if they were open source, some helpful ubuntu dev could fix it :(
[07:51] <boxman> i have a bigger feeling it has something to do with x.org :\
[07:51] <Chousuke> boxman: running the exact same version of x.org and kernel? :P
[07:52] <Chousuke> the binary drivers may conflict with either.
[07:52] <boxman> well, i havent done anything to the kernel or xorg since i installed it.
[07:52] <zack_> boxman, why not get the latest nvidia drivers from there site?
[07:52] <boxman> zack_, you think that will make a difference?
[07:53] <rsk> howdy everyone
[07:53] <boxman> i know i used this exact same version under debian without these problems.
[07:53] <logikal__> hey guys
[07:53] <boxman> though that was downloaded from nvidia.com
[07:53] <logikal__> Where is the Konsole in this thing?
[07:53] <boxman> but i doubt that should make much of a difference?
[07:53] <zack_> they are more stable and are alot better in games... around the same as the windows drivers they make
[07:53] <rsk> Noob question of the hour: I just installed postgresql 8.0 and pgadmin3, any idea what the default login is to the DB? (postgres w/o pass is not working)
[07:53] <nalioth> anyone familiar with ntfsresize?
[07:54] <boxman> so they are diffrent from those on apt? even though it is the same version?
[07:54] <vbgunz_> logikal_ are you on Ubuntu or Kubuntu? If Ubuntu are you looking for the terminal?
[07:54] <zack_> apt drivers are often old
[07:54] <logikal_> yes
[07:54] <logikal_> the terminal
[07:54] <logikal_> where shall it be
[07:54] <logikal_> Im on Ubuntu
[07:54] <logikal_> the newest release
[07:54] <logikal_> 5/10
[07:54] <logikal_> 5.10
[07:54] <sexcopter8000m> ok in firefox i'm getting that "current user profile is in use" business, anyone know how to fix it?
[07:55] <vbgunz_> under accessories or system tools I believe... for left menu option on the panel
[07:55] <logikal_> under accessories
[07:55] <logikal_> there it is
[07:55] <logikal_> thanks
[07:55] <logikal_> :)
[07:55] <vbgunz_> ;)
[07:55] <zack_> wow couldnt u have searched for that ur self?
[07:58] <bpf> sexcopter8000m, sounds like there is still a firefox process running
[07:58] <bpf> try ps -ef |grep firefox
[07:58] <wezzer> kill -9 firefox-bin
[07:59] <jkrogh> I have a Breezy system.. today I've had several firefox crashes. Is firefox rock-solid on your breezy-systems?
[08:00] <sexcopter8000m> yes there is bpf, isn't there some command like "killall" that i need?
[08:00] <Secreth`X> anyone familiar with ntfsresize?
[08:01] <djohngo> jkrogh: I've had some firefox crashes on breezy.  I think it had to do with plugins.
[08:02] <sexcopter8000m> hmmm, "killall firefox" returns "no process killed"...
[08:02] <jkrogh> sexcopter8000m: try firefox-bin
[08:03] <sexcopter8000m> wikkid bad, sorted, cheers :)
[08:03] <Shin_Gouki> hi anyone knows why : apt-get install xmms-openspc  fails with my system?
[08:03] <Shin_Gouki> where doi find my sources .list?
[08:03] <_air_forces> nasss
[08:04] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: /etc/apt/
[08:05] <Secreth`X> anyone familiar with ntfsresize?
[08:05] <zack_> jkrogh, i still get firefox crashes
[08:05] <logikal_> can someone give me that fixres link again?
[08:05] <logikal_> my res is still low
[08:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell logikal_ about fixres
[08:06] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i tried to type:  apt-get install xmms-openspc but it said unknown pkg, then the said on xmms channel : looks like ubuntu dont have it in the repositories , ideas?
[08:07] <zack_> Shin_Gouki, try going thru symatic and running a search
[08:07] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: compile it
[08:07] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: that's because it doesn't exist in the Ubuntu repo.
[08:07] <Shin_Gouki> zack_ is this shell prog?, thx!!
[08:07] <djohngo> Secreth`X: I've used ntfsresize twice, and hosed the drive both times. ;)
[08:07] <zack_> just search for xmms u should find serveral downloads
[08:08] <antisocialboris> what is cvs?
[08:08] <zack_> make sure u add repositories and update them
[08:08] <Shin_Gouki> somthing evil
[08:08] <crimsun> Secreth`X: don't have access to a parted frontend?
[08:08] <Shin_Gouki> zack_ whats the command for symantic?
[08:08] <Shin_Gouki> zack_ i only have shell
[08:08] <Secreth`X> erm
[08:08] <Shin_Gouki> zack_ i only have shell or icewm
[08:08] <egoleo> i need ftp client
[08:09] <Secreth`X> I resized so there was 20 gig blank space
[08:09] <egoleo> a graphical ftp client
[08:09] <Shin_Gouki> egoleo, go to shell type ftp
[08:09] <Shin_Gouki> oh
[08:09] <benplaut> anyone having a problemw ith huge fonts this morning
[08:09] <Secreth`X> but nor linux nor windows detects that 20 gig of blank space
[08:09] <daved> very nice installer guys
[08:09] <egoleo> i dont want command line
[08:09] <benplaut> dunno what the heck happened, but...
[08:09] <nalioth> drazQ: crimsun: we havent hosed the partition yet
[08:09] <egoleo> ok
[08:09] <daved> that was incredibly painless
[08:10] <antisocialboris> im having problems with apt-get update, can anyone help?
[08:10] <zack_> sudo synaptic
[08:10] <djohngo> Secreth`X: did you run some form of fdisk after ntfsresize?
[08:10] <nalioth> djohngo: how would fdisk be used afterwards?
[08:11] <egoleo> any ftp GUI
[08:11] <egoleo> any GUI ftp client
[08:11] <zack_> antisocialboris, are you using GDE or KDE or xfce?
[08:11] <nalioth> egoleo: gftp
[08:11] <deFrysk> egoleo, gftp
[08:11] <djohngo> nalioth: the way I understand it, you have to rewrite the partition table after you free up the space.
[08:11] <egoleo> mine crashes
[08:12] <egoleo> so i need a new one
[08:12] <djohngo> naloith: like I said, though.  I botched it up both times I tried it.
[08:12] <egoleo> my gftp crashes so i need a new one
[08:12] <nalioth> egoleo: kftpgrabber
[08:12] <egoleo> apart from gftp
[08:12] <BiSK-8> hello
[08:12] <lucaas> gftp segfaults lots for me too
[08:12] <nalioth> djohngo: that is the part that has lost me
[08:12] <lucaas> i use lftp now (console based)
[08:12] <egoleo> is it for kde?
[08:12] <BiSK-8> whats a good program that i can get through apt-get that will let me open rar files?
[08:13] <daved> BiSK-8: rar
[08:13] <nalioth> BiSK-8: unrar-nonfree
[08:13] <bpf> unrar
[08:13] <gsuveg> re
[08:13] <logikal_> How do i save a txt file im working on in terminal?
[08:13] <BiSK-8> daved, nalioth: thanks
[08:13] <lucaas> logikal_, in what editor?
[08:13] <lucaas> or are you just typing in the terminal?
[08:13] <deFrysk> in nano crtl-x
[08:13] <logikal_> yeah i got it
[08:14] <logikal_> it asked me about it
[08:14] <logikal_> I never used nano before..
[08:14] <deFrysk> nano is a handy dandy editor
[08:14] <logikal_> BRB
[08:14] <logikal_> hope it works dude.
[08:14] <rob^^^> how usefil is a tivo without a subscription?
[08:14] <lucaas> indeed
[08:14] <rob^^^> err useful
[08:15] <boxman> well, installing nvidia drivers using the official installer is easier said than done... it complains about gcc on system being 4.x, while the kernel was compiled using 3.x :(
[08:15] <zack_> gahhh that logikal guy was anoying
[08:15] <zack_> i hate people that dont try looking before asking
[08:15] <logikal_> Ok
[08:15] <logikal_> all that did was up my refresh rate
[08:15] <deFrysk> zack_, some dont know where to look
[08:15] <logikal_> I sitll dont have the desired resolution
[08:16] <boxman> any suggestion for what to try now?
[08:16] <zack_> some don't need to be here if they are lazy
[08:16] <crimsun> boxman: so install build-essential and gcc-3.4
[08:16] <johnnythunders> i'm trying to play mp3's off my ntfs partition in breezy.  file says
[08:16] <crimsun> boxman: then export CC=gcc-3.4
[08:16] <johnnythunders> MP3 file with ID3 version 2.3.0 tag
[08:16] <BiSK-8> daved, nalioth:  it says that there r already installed but how can a ipackage a rar file? when i double click the files icon it says that its a not supported file type
[08:16] <Seveas> !tell johnnythunders about mp3
[08:16] <deFrysk> logikal_, I usually run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg use the default unless something needs to be adjusted
[08:17] <johnnythunders> yes please!
[08:17] <nalioth> BiSK-8: you want to rar something up?
[08:17] <nalioth> johnnythunders: check your private msgs
[08:17] <BiSK-8> nalioth, no, i want to unrar a file
[08:17] <boxman> let me try again..
[08:17] <Seveas> johnnythunders, ubotu yold you in a private message
[08:17] <Seveas> !tell johnnythunders about restricted
[08:17] <nalioth> BiSK-8: if you have unrar-nonfree, your ark or file-roller should unrar it (is it damaged?)
[08:17] <logikal_> Could someone PM me a list of monitor modes?
[08:17] <logikal_> like 600x800
[08:17] <logikal_>  a full listing
[08:17] <deFrysk> logikal_, read what I told you
[08:17] <zack_> lol
[08:17] <Kaparen> Two days in a row now my Abuntu have been working fine after applying the new Nvidia drivers but then not working OK the day after.
[08:18] <BiSK-8> naolioth, i dunno, who can i find out?
[08:18] <flask-> hi I'm using Hoary and when I use apps that use gtk-1.x (like xmms), the fonts are huge and grainy... how do I fix this? thanks. :)
[08:18] <logikal_> I did do that already
[08:18] <logikal_> Now im editing  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:18] <kris_> nows a polisch channel for ubuntu?
[08:18] <deFrysk> in that config prog you can see tons of settings for your screen
[08:18] <logikal_> well
[08:18] <kris_> anyone knows?
[08:19] <zack_> logikal_,  1024x728
[08:19] <logikal_> how do i select them
[08:19] <zack_> 1280x1024
[08:19] <zack_> ect...
[08:19] <deFrysk> with your spacebar
[08:19] <logikal_> Oh ok
[08:19] <logikal_> duhh
[08:19] <nalioth> BiSK-8: open another rar file and see
[08:19] <logikal_> sorry im a retard
[08:19] <BiSK-8> nalioth, what exactly do i gotta do to unrar the pkg with ark or unrar
[08:19] <deFrysk> and also unselect with your spacebar
[08:19] <djjason> I just installed apache2 and I need to add a scriptalias..do I add it to apache2.conf,,,since http.conf seems pretty empty and useless now
[08:19] <BiSK-8> nalioth, thats the prob, it wont open
[08:19] <deFrysk> logikal_, what inc does your screen have ?
[08:19] <deFrysk> inch
[08:19] <logikal_> 21
[08:19] <nalioth> BiSK-8: just clickig on it should open one of those, or you can right click and "open with"
[08:19] <kris_> anyone from poland? I need help...
[08:20] <logikal_> 21 sony trintron
[08:20] <deFrysk> logikal_, set is to 1600x1200
[08:20] <johnnythunders> very sorry, thanks seveas y ubotu
[08:20] <deFrysk> it*
[08:20] <mad_phoenix> does ubuntu use ld.so.conf?
[08:20] <logikal_> Ok well im going to run the config thing again
[08:20] <rsk> Does anyone here know the default password for the "postgres" user on Ubuntu 5.10?
[08:20] <rsk> (Post 8.0)
[08:20] <BiSK-8> nalioth, i double click and it says that its an unsupported file type, under open with which program should i select?
[08:20] <deFrysk> logical aso do a few "lower" settings in case it does not take
[08:21] <nalioth> BiSK-8: right click and select open with file-roller
[08:21] <kris_> jest tu ktos z polski?
[08:21] <deFrysk> its no prob to do 3 or 4 resolutions
[08:21] <[LethAL] > hm... maybe
[08:21] <[LethAL] > !pl
[08:21] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, [LethAL] 
[08:21] <[LethAL] > Grr
[08:21] <deFrysk> !polska
[08:21] <ubotu> deFrysk: I give up, what is it?
[08:21] <mad_phoenix> im trying to run a script to build enlightenment 17, and it keeps saying it can't find ld.so.conf...i confirmed that i don't have it using locate.  is there a package that installs it?  I already have build-essentials, automake, libtool, etc...
[08:21] <zack_> his fault he didnt set it up when installing ubuntu
[08:21] <Kaparen> I get a ' Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)', how do I fix this?
[08:22] <kris_> I need help anyone knows a polish channel for ubuntu please?
[08:22] <BiSK-8> nalioth, there is no "file-roller"
[08:22] <nalioth> mad_phoenix: type "sudo apt-get build-dep enlightenment"
[08:22] <nalioth> BiSK-8: i'm sorry i'm so out of touch with gui things ( i do all my stuff in a console)
[08:22] <k_deft> hello, guys do you know how to make work usb ADSL modem?
[08:23] <nalioth> BiSK-8: "archive manager"
[08:23] <BiSK-8> nalioth, it says Tipo di archivio non supportato which means archive type not supported
[08:23] <BiSK-8> nalioth, how can i dpkg it through terminal?
[08:23] <logikal_> here  igo
[08:23] <logikal_> this shoulda worked
[08:23] <nalioth> BiSK-8: you seem to have trouble. Is unrar-nonfree installed?
[08:24] <BiSK-8> nalioth, yes it is
[08:24] <BiSK-8> im on breezy btw
[08:24] <BiSK-8> on  hoary it used 2 work
[08:24] <nalioth> BiSK-8: right click on the rar , select open with other application, and find
[08:24] <nalioth> "archive manager"
[08:25] <k_deft> hello, guys do you know how to make work usb ADSL modem?
[08:25] <pc22> how can i see my other ubuntu computer in the network
[08:25] <benplaut> i woke up this morning to huge, ugly fonts and a panel waaaayyyy too thick... any suggestions?
[08:25] <BiSK-8> nalioth, no archive manager
[08:26] <boxman> i installed gcc-3.4 and typed export gcc=3.4 and the nvidia driver still complained about the same thing..
[08:26] <benplaut> !font
[08:26] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, benplaut
[08:26] <zack_> benplaut, what DE ? Kde gde xfce
[08:26] <benplaut> bleh
[08:26] <benplaut> zack_: gnome
[08:26] <benplaut> breezy
[08:26] <logikal_> Wonderful!
[08:26] <logikal_> it worked
[08:26] <Nvidiot> boxman: uhm, just use the package? It's in apt-get...
[08:26] <logikal_> im in 1280x1024 :)
[08:27] <Nvidiot> logikal_: 1600x1200 here, on a 15" laptop :P
[08:27] <zack_> benplaut,  maybe ur reso changed?
[08:27] <benplaut> reso?
[08:27] <boxman> Nvidiot, i was suggested to try the official installer, as i am having stability troubles.
[08:27] <benplaut> oh
[08:27] <benplaut> no
[08:27] <logikal_> oh wow
[08:27] <benplaut> still at 1024x768
[08:27] <boxman> also the package in apt-get did not work with the newer driver
[08:27] <logikal_> you must have like 20x15 vision
[08:27] <Nvidiot> boxman: hmm, I saw something about a memory leak on a wiki the other day...
[08:27] <boxman> also the package in apt-get did not work with the newer kernel*
[08:28] <nalioth> BiSK-8: idk what to tell you, i have archive manager on my breezy(s)
[08:28] <logikal_> next task, Making the font in xChat bigger..
[08:28] <Nvidiot> logikal_: well, other people tend to complain that they can't read my screens lol. I love the space though :)
[08:28] <zack_> < 1024x768
[08:28] <logikal_> anything smaller then this, freaks me out
[08:28] <Nvidiot> boxman: I'm running the latest ubuntu here, WITH the latest nvidia driver and kernel. Works for me
[08:28] <boxman> the official nvidia driver wont build, because i have gcc4 installed while the linux kernel was built using 3.4
[08:28] <logikal_> I feel closterphobic
[08:28] <benplaut> it's only the fonts for the panel and gnome program's panels
[08:28] <Nvidiot> why do I get this? The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386 ?
[08:29] <BiSK-8> nalioth, wait
[08:29] <BiSK-8> file roller isnt installed
[08:29] <Nvidiot> boxman: you could of course build the kernel with gcc4 ?
[08:29] <BiSK-8> where can i download it?
[08:29] <boxman> i really dont want to compile a kernel again now.. :\
[08:29] <lsuactiafner> logikal_ : press control alt + or -
[08:29] <nalioth> BiSK-8: where you d/l everything else, apt-get or synaptic
[08:29] <boxman> so you are saying it is not possible to use the kernels on apt?
[08:29] <lsuactiafner> the + or - at the far end of the keyboard
[08:30] <boxman> with the nvidia installer..
[08:30] <BiSK-8> nalioth, nope, it says that its not here..... i dunno
[08:30] <Nvidiot> boxman: slow system? Don't understand it though, I'm using the latest kernel and latest nvidia driver from apt, works fine for me
[08:30] <BiSK-8> nalioth, got a url?
[08:30] <logikal_> Ok
[08:30] <Alex_BO> HELLO men!i have a problem with some pdf.i use xpdf as the ubuntu 5.04 release.sometimes in some pdf, when i try to skip the page (for example from page 22 to page 23) it crash and it use the 100% of CPU and i have to kill it.is it a know bug?
[08:30] <logikal_> So now, I want to make my own txt a differnet color
[08:31] <pc22> hello
[08:31] <pc22> how can i see my other ubuntu computer in the network?
[08:31] <lsuactiafner> mad_phoenix : should be under /etc
[08:31] <nalioth> BiSK-8: you have serious trouble, my friend
[08:31] <Cryptid> How do i check how much RAM i got?
[08:31] <boxman> Nvidiot, random freezes when i do simple operations like drag and drop a file..
[08:31] <boxman> the gfx card freezes up completly
[08:31] <nalioth> BiSK-8: have you updated your system lately?
[08:31] <lsuactiafner>  /etc/ld.so.conf
[08:31] <BiSK-8> nalioth, is that all?
[08:31] <Kaparen> I've installed the Nvidia drivers in Ubuntu and now I get a  Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found) error when I startup. Anyone know how to fix this?
[08:31] <boxman> while rest of the system is still running
[08:31] <lsuactiafner> mad_phoenix : if you dont have it yoru system id screwed up very badly
[08:31] <BiSK-8> abt 4 days ago nalioth
[08:31] <mad_phoenix> lsuactiafner: it's not
[08:31] <mad_phoenix> lsuactiafner: im using 5.10, if that makes a difference
[08:31] <Nvidiot> boxman: I did read something about a memory leak on the ubuntu wiki the other day, when I was reading about hibernate
[08:31] <ompaul> BiSK-8, are you running gnome?
[08:31] <nalioth> BiSK-8: update it now
[08:32] <BiSK-8> yep
[08:32] <Nvidiot> Kaparen: did you use synaptic/apt to get the driver /
[08:32] <BiSK-8> i already am
[08:32] <BiSK-8> :P
[08:32] <mad_phoenix> and im pretty sure my system isn't borked because i compile my own programs i write very regularly with gcc/automake/libtool etc.
[08:32] <nalioth> BiSK-8: archive-manager is default and i dont see how you dont have it in your context menus
[08:32] <boxman> somoene here suggested that i try the one from nvidia site instead, but that seems impossible since the linux kernel i am running was compiled with a different gcc than this system has
[08:32] <mad_phoenix> i only have ld.so.cache under /etc
[08:32] <Alex_BO> halo?
[08:32] <BiSK-8> nalioth, i have it, but no unrar
[08:32] <BiSK-8> so ill update
[08:32] <boxman> someone told me to do a apt-get install gcc-3.4 and then type export gcc=3.4
[08:32] <Nvidiot> boxman: they indeed *have* to be compiled with the same compiler...
[08:32] <boxman> but that did not do anything
[08:32] <Cryptid> nalioth,How do i check how much RAM i got?
[08:32] <Kaparen> no I downloaded it from Nvidia site and manually installed it #dri, 'nvidia' just like in the wiki guide
[08:32] <nalioth> BiSK-8: install "unrar-nonfree"
[08:32] <Ubunti_Ki> Im thinking of getting som repositories for my 5.10, can I get those in ubuntuguide.org or does those only work for 5.04 ?
[08:33] <boxman> i really wonder why the kernels on apt is compiled with a different gcc :X
[08:33] <BiSK-8> nalioth, and if worst comes to worst transfer it to my hoary hdd and dpkg it
[08:33] <Ofe> hm. I want to edit "/etc/ppp/peers/provider" how do I do that as root? type "edit /etc/ppp/peers/provider"?
[08:33] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: ubuntuguide.org will kill your box
[08:33] <logikal_> How do I change the color of "MY txt" in xchat
[08:33] <kbrooks> yay.
[08:33] <Nvidiot> Kaparen: easier to grab it from synaptic. That works great for me :)
[08:33] <boxman> they seem pretty unusable then
[08:33] <mad_phoenix> Ubunti_Ki: just switch all of the "hoary" entries to "breezy"
[08:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ubunti_Ki about sources
[08:33] <kbrooks> 5.04 rc is out
[08:33] <boxman> if i cant compile stuff
[08:33] <Nvidiot> Ofe: sudo gedit /etc/ppp/peers/provider
[08:33] <Ubunti_Ki> thanx, thats it?
[08:33] <BiSK-8> thx man
[08:33] <kbrooks> now i have to wait ...
[08:33] <Kaparen> Nvidiot: Did you have the same problem before you got it from Synaptic?
[08:33] <BiSK-8> cya
[08:33] <mad_phoenix> Ubunti_Ki: yup
[08:33] <BiSK-8> g2g
[08:33] <kbrooks> Ubunti_Ki: wait
[08:33] <Ofe> Nvidiot: thanks. So I was missing gedit
[08:33] <mad_phoenix> Ubunti_Ki: and don't bother with the backports
[08:33] <kbrooks> read the bot's reply
[08:34] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, openspc is bad to me it says:
[08:34] <Cryptid> nalioth ,How do i check how much RAM i got?
[08:34] <Nvidiot> Kaparen: I get everything I can from synaptic, much surer way, that way I can easily keep up with updates etc
[08:34] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: no pasting
[08:34] <Kaparen> Nvidiot: I dont even know what Synaptic is?!
[08:35] <nalioth> Cryptid: lshw
[08:35] <zack_> synaptic owns
[08:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Kaparen about synaptic
[08:35] <Nvidiot> Kaparen: system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[08:35] <Cryptid> nalioth, wat??? wats that?
[08:35] <zack_> sudo synaptic in console
[08:35] <boxman> Nvidiot boxman: I did read something about a memory leak on the ubuntu wiki the other day, when I was reading about hibernate <--- what was the solution?
[08:35] <boxman> if there was any.. :P
[08:35] <mad_phoenix> So does anybody have an idea of why my breezy install doesn't have ld.so.conf?
[08:35] <Cryptid> nalioth, oh ok i got it thanx
[08:35] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i know thats why here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2823
[08:35] <Nvidiot> boxman: disabling some option, I vaguely recall 'option noaccel' or something to that effect
[08:35] <nalioth> Cryptid: open a terminal and type lshw
[08:36] <boxman> :\
[08:36] <boxman> i know i have renderaccl activated..
[08:36] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: type "sudo apt-get build-dep xmms"
[08:36] <kbrooks> ew usb 1
[08:37] <Ubunti_Ki> kbrooks, what was it that you wanted to say?
[08:37] <Nvidiot> boxman: that said, I don't know how old the wiki was, it said I should set some options and then hibernate would work. It doesn't. Hardware compatibility list says it should work
[08:37] <kbrooks> thats awfully old for a hp printer
[08:37] <boxman> Option "RenderAccel" "true"
[08:37] <boxman> ok
[08:37] <Nvidiot> boxman: try with that on false... see if it fixes the crashing
[08:37] <logikal_> Ok guys, how do i mount my windows partitions
[08:37] <boxman> i know i did not have this problem using debian and the same version of driver
[08:37] <kbrooks> Ubunti_Ki: forget about the backports. do not use marillat (forewarning for the future)
[08:37] <thrice`> !windows
[08:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[08:38] <Thirsteh> what's the cli command to toggle whether an init process starts or not, in ubuntu?
[08:38] <thrice`> er...
[08:38] <logikal_> wine is a good one?
[08:38] <Kaparen> Nvidiot: So I should 'box' all the nvidia choices?
[08:38] <thrice`> you can chmod -x a startup script
[08:38] <Thirsteh> logikal_, for non-directx apps yeah
[08:38] <logikal_> I heard wine is pretty popular..
[08:38] <pal> hi i need help with apt, where is the link to configure apt?
[08:38] <logikal_> what's the one you guys would suggest?
[08:38] <Thirsteh> thrice`, I'm talking about runlevel scripts
[08:38] <kbrooks> theres a winegcc too
[08:38] <thrice`> Thirsteh, and? ?
[08:39] <Thirsteh> thrice`, like, I installed Webmin, how do I toggle if it starts on boot, isn't there a command instead of having to move files from rc.X dirs?
[08:39] <Ubunti_Ki> Ok, I just change "hoary" to "breezy" and don't care about nothing else?
[08:39] <sorush20> how can I get all my applications to use kde open/save dialogues rather than gnome...
[08:39] <thrice`> should be in /etc/inti.d I would guess
[08:39] <Nvidiot> Kaparen: nvidia-glx, that should automatically grab the other things as well
[08:39] <Thirsteh> thrice`, you're obviously not getting my point at all
[08:40] <pal> hi i need help with apt, where is the link to configure apt?
[08:40] <thrice`> Thirsteh, that init scripts are called from that dir as exec. files?
[08:40] <Kaparen> Nvidiot: Thanks man! I'll try it now!
[08:40] <Nvidiot> pal: use synaptic
[08:40] <thrice`> and chmod -x'ing will not allow them to startup ?
[08:40] <Ubunti_Ki> kbrooks, Ok, I just change "hoary" to "breezy" and don't care about nothing else?
[08:40] <Cryptid> nalioth, wat is Vmware and can i use it to run some video converting software which was originally made for windows
[08:40] <logikal_> does ubuntu come with wine?
[08:40] <Nvidiot> Ubunti_Ki: read the wiki on how to upgrade. It's almost as simple as that. ALMOST
[08:40] <pal> what is synaptic
[08:40] <benplaut> ok, figured out more
[08:40] <thrice`> logikal_, what do you need it for ?
[08:40] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: that's the first step
[08:40] <Nvidiot> pal: system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[08:40] <[LethAL] > logikal_, no, in repos though
[08:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pal about synaptic
[08:41] <logikal_> to look at porn videos :)
[08:41] <logikal_> to get my txt files and such over here for school
[08:41] <Nvidiot> logikal_: just want the w32codecs for that :P
[08:41] <kbrooks> Ubunti_Ki: in sources.list (and in synaptic), yes
[08:41] <benplaut> fonts i select using the Gnome font util don't work. it defaults to who-knows-what, and i have no idea how to fix them manually. Suggestions?
[08:41] <Kaparen> hmmm installed version is the latest version. Should I reinstall
[08:41] <Ubunti_Ki> are there many steps? =)
[08:42] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, its finished...what now?
[08:42] <kbrooks> Ubunti_Ki: 3 in both
[08:42] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: try your build again
[08:42] <Ofe> umm.. what's the problem. I type stty in root-terminal, then change connection speed to 115200 with command stty 115200. Then I close root terminal and reopen it, stty says connection speed is 38400.
[08:42] <Ubunti_Ki> OK? :P
[08:42] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: read the /topic and follow the wiki
[08:43] <kbrooks> Yeah...
[08:43] <Ubunti_Ki> wiki where? sorry to disturb but im a noobie
[08:43] <kbrooks> Ubunti_Ki: wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:43] <Ubunti_Ki> thanks
[08:43] <kbrooks> Ubunti_Ki: /topic
[08:43] <kbrooks> read it.
[08:43] <darkheart> Ofe Never used that before, but sounds like that value needs to be set in a config file for it to be present everytime you stty
[08:44] <kbrooks> second from last item has the link
[08:44] <kbrooks> nalioth: if only people actually read the topic, oh well
[08:45] <Ofe> ok darkheart. thanks. I'll try to find the file
[08:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ubunti_Ki about upgrade2breezy
[08:45] <mad_phoenix> When I run ldconfig -v it spits out tons of information about the libraries it's adding to the cache, but I still don't have an ld.so.conf file.  I do have ld.so.cache in /etc, but that's it.  Do I have to manually create ld.so.conf?
[08:45] <Skid> hm
[08:45] <nalioth> who took out the factoid?
[08:46] <nalioth> !upgrade2breezy
[08:46] <ubotu> nalioth: I give up, what is it?
[08:46] <nalioth> WHO removed the factoid?
[08:46] <kbrooks> nalioth: I don't know
[08:46] <Ubunti_Ki> Not good?
[08:47] <benplaut> w00t
[08:47] <benplaut> just like i thought, KDE was getting in the way :D
[08:47] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: ubotu is here to save us time and typing
[08:47] <[LethAL] > ubotu, upgrade2breezy is <reply> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:47] <ubotu> okay, [LethAL] 
[08:47] <[LethAL] > !upgrade2breezy
[08:47] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:47] <[LethAL] > :D
[08:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> does nayone here use superkaramba?
[08:47] <logikal_> Ok im having a problem
[08:47] <logikal_> I cant find wine in the synaptic
[08:47] <logikal_> I added some repositorys
[08:48] <[LethAL] > logikal_, it's in universe iirc
[08:48] <[LethAL] > !info wine
[08:48] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[08:48] <Ubunti_Ki> Oh thanx very much "ubotu" & "nalioth"
[08:48] <logikal_> oh ok
[08:48] <[LethAL] > ubotu isn't a person
[08:48] <ubotu> [LethAL] : Do they come in packets of five?
[08:48] <logikal_> it's in universe
[08:48] <logikal_> thanks you.
[08:48] <antisocialboris> my apt-get update went crazy
[08:48] <sorush20> guys I'm trying to get rid of extra and wrong kernels off my system how can I do that..
[08:48] <[LethAL] > sorush20, via synaptic or any apt-get frontend
[08:48] <mad_phoenix> sorush20: delete them from your boot directory
[08:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ubunti_Ki about upgrade2breezy
[08:49] <Nvidiot> mad_phoenix: don't do that... use apt!
[08:49] <nalioth> something fishy goin on here
[08:49] <pal> ubontu: tell pal about ubuntu
[08:49] <[LethAL] > nalioth, why?
[08:49] <mad_phoenix> Nvidiot: why?  removing from /boot and editing menu.lst achieves the same thing
[08:49] <kbrooks> pal: No. /msg the bot
[08:49] <Nvidiot> why do I get this? The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386 ?
[08:49] <pal> ubontu: tell pal about ubontu
[08:49] <Nvidiot> mad_phoenix: is apt smart enough to figure out that you removed it when you run it next time ?
[08:50] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: read your priv msgs
[08:50] <Sonny_Wertzik> does nayone here use superkaramba?
[08:50] <Thirsteh> Any idea when Breezy will be "finished" up?
[08:50] <nalioth> pal: read your priv msgs
[08:50] <pal> sorry
[08:50] <nalioth> Thirsteh: oct 13
[08:50] <mad_phoenix> Nvidiot:  why does it have to?  If I'm keeping the latest version and deleting old ones it won't install anything new.
[08:50] <Thirsteh> nalioth, awesome, that's soon
[08:51] <Nvidiot> mad_phoenix: well, I don't want this huge list of old kernels I installed a long time ago when I fire up synaptic :)
[08:51] <mad_phoenix> Nvidiot: although apt is equally valid and probably easier, i just like doing things manually :)
[08:51] <Ubunti_Ki> I see, thanks agains, a lot. Both nalioth and unotu!
[08:51] <antisocialboris> my apt-get update has problems connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:51] <Nvidiot> antisocialboris: pick another mirror then?
[08:51] <Ubunti_Ki> brb........             .....     ..
[08:51] <mad_phoenix> Nvidiot: ya, i just use apt so it's not an issue
[08:51] <bibe> hi all! I have just installed Ubuntu 5.10-rc on my desktop pc!
[08:51] <[LethAL] > Nvidiot, antisocialboris, gb. is fine...
[08:51] <sorush20> is there a way that I can find out what packages have never been using on my computer so that I can remove them form my computer
[08:51] <antisocialboris> how do i change it?
[08:52] <antisocialboris> so why are things going wrong if its fine?
[08:52] <robsta> hi, does anyone know of a firefox 1.5 src deb (ppc deb would be even better)?
[08:52] <logikal_> OK, I installed the wine-doc where does it install to?
[08:52] <[LethAL] > /usr/doc probably
[08:52] <thrice`> logikal_, you don't need wine to mount windows drives
[08:52] <bris> slt
[08:52] <logikal_> well
[08:52] <logikal_> can someone tell me how to mount windows drives please :)
[08:52] <bibe> how can I use multimedia extensions (w32codecs and libdvdcss2, most of all) with Breezy?
[08:52] <[LethAL] > !tell logikal_ about windowsdrives
[08:53] <antisocialboris> im trying to set up dc++, would it just be easier to get wine and run it through that?
[08:53] <Nvidiot> bibe: see the RestrictedFormats wiki
[08:53] <mad_phoenix> logikal:  mount -t ntfs /dev/(whatever hd windows is on) /mnt/windows
[08:53] <bibe> logikal_ : FAT or NTFS?
[08:53] <bibe> Nvidiot : thanks
[08:53] <logikal_> ntfs
[08:53] <mad_phoenix> logikal:  or whatever other folder you want to mount it to, you just have to create it
[08:53] <bibe> so mad_phoenix is right. Be careful writing on ntfs!
[08:54] <mad_phoenix> yes, there's ntfs tools but after you use them to write from linux there's another utility that essentially runs through and makes sure you didn't b0rk the hell out of it
[08:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell logikal_ about windowsdrives
[08:54] <[LethAL] > Well, it's far better to write to ext2/3 drives from windows than NTFS from Linux imho
[08:54] <mad_phoenix> agreed
[08:54] <kahuna_> Hi. I just installed ubuntu and uncommented the CDrom apt-respository. When I try to get packages off the net I get md5sum mismatch on security.ubuntu.org
[08:55] <[LethAL] > ubuntu.org?
[08:55] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get update
[08:55] <[LethAL] > Try changin it to .com
[08:55] <[LethAL] > And do that ^^
[08:56] <logikal_> ok guys
[08:56] <logikal_> thanks
[08:56] <logikal_> I got the winm fstab installed
[08:57] <Ofe> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2825 <- what does that errormessage mean?
[08:57] <no_dammagE> I installed ubuntu onto the machine, but the X-Server won't start. the graphics adapter is an Ati Mobility X600, display is 1280x768 wxga. the server tells me: primary device is PCI 01:00:0, ATI: Candidate "Device" section "My Video Card" (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device. No devices detected ...
[08:57] <kahuna_> [LethAL] : It's us.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:57] <pupil> Just installed Ubuntu,.
[08:57] <pupil> its very nice
[08:57] <Sionide> good on you
[08:57] <Sionide> keep it
[08:57] <[LethAL] > Ofe, no need to sudo from root
[08:57] <kahuna_> Any other repositories that I can try?
[08:58] <florian> i now have 5.10 preview installed. will it be possible to upgrade to final 5.10?
[08:58] <logikal_> Ok guys
[08:58] <[LethAL] > Ofe, also, running gui apps with sudo won't work well
[08:58] <logikal_> Video Codecs
[08:58] <logikal_> Where do i get those?
[08:58] <[LethAL] > Ofe, use gksudo gedit
[08:58] <deFrysk> florian, for sure
[08:58] <pupil> Sionide, Concerning the updates,. theres alot of them,. some of them relative some not,. should I just update everthing?
[08:58] <logikal_> Windows Video Codecs
[08:58] <LasseL> didn't they take the codecs out of the backports?
[08:58] <logikal_> ubotu tell logikal windows codecs
[08:58] <Ofe> [LethAL] : so gksudo gedit /etc/ppp/peers/provider?
[08:58] <Sionide> pubuntu,
[08:58] <Sionide> oops
[08:58] <LasseL> !codecs
[08:58] <ubotu> [codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:58] <logikal_> ubotu tell logikal codecs
[08:58] <Sionide> pupil, yes do them all - might as well
[08:59] <pupil> indeed
[08:59] <kbrooks> !cigarette
[08:59] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but kbrooks needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[08:59] <florian> deFrysk, thanx, I used Fedora Core so far and there it would not have been possible
[08:59] <[LethAL] > Ofe, no, take the file out and then open it in gedit
[08:59] <kbrooks> ubotu: forget cigarette
[08:59] <ubotu> i forgot cigarette, kbrooks
[08:59] <deFrysk> florian, you will never have to upgrade using an installdisk again
[09:00] <florian> i like it ,)
[09:00] <Nvidiot> why do I get this? The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386 ?
[09:00] <[LethAL] > Nvidiot, stop repeating yourself
[09:00] <damg> anyone who can help me with xorg on a toshiba m50 (satellite)?
[09:00] <Ofe> [LethAL] : ok, I'll try. So I have to search the file, open it in gedit and edit it, all in GUI?
[09:00] <Nvidiot> [LethAL] : sorry :/ Just trying to get it fixed
[09:00] <deFrysk> Nvidiot, probably you have "bad" repo's
[09:00] <antisocialboris> can someone help me sort out apt?
[09:00] <jimzilla> hi i,ve got a question
[09:00] <[LethAL] > Ofe, you don't have to use the gui
[09:01] <joachim> what's the module for the gnome Network administration tool?
[09:01] <antisocialboris> it cant seem to connect
[09:01] <[LethAL] > Ofe, sudo nano /etc/foo/bar will work fine
[09:01] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: hm, I'm using my isp's mirror. What does the error mean ?
[09:02] <deFrysk> Nvidiot, it means that there is a missing/wrong dep stopping mplayer from being installed
[09:02] <kahuna_> Anyone else getting the MD5sum mismatch off of security.ubuntu.com?
[09:02] <kahuna_> on apt-get update
[09:02] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: any way to get more info other than a bit windows-like: uh, no, doesn't work
[09:02] <Ofe> [LethAL] : I'm a newb as you must've noticed. sudo nano etc/foo/bar will let me edit /etc/ppp/peers/provider? o.O or sudo nano /etc/ppp/peers/provider? I know that nano is something like notebook.
[09:02] <LokeDK> upgrading to breezy - what should i choose here: http://pastebin.com/385316 ?
[09:02] <[LethAL] > Ofe, choose the latter ;)
[09:02] <jimzilla> how can one configure multiple ips on one network adapter
[09:03] <logikal_> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[09:03] <deFrysk> Nvidiot, you have probably a repo in your sources.list wich should not be there
[09:03] <logikal_> :(
[09:03] <logikal_> :(
[09:03] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: want me to paste my sources.list on the web ?
[09:04] <deFrysk> sure ,you can do it in pastebin
[09:04] <vbgunz_> LokeDK, why don't you compare and merge changes?
[09:04] <vbgunz_> LokeDK: if that is possible?
[09:04] <LokeDK> there is show differences between version.. but else not vbgunz_
[09:04] <logikal_> Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release
[09:04] <logikal_> Ign ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release
[09:04] <logikal_> Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch/main Packages
[09:04] <logikal_> Fetched 192B in 2s (86B/s)
[09:04] <logikal_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:04] <logikal_> and then i get the error
[09:05] <vbgunz_> LokeDK: yeah, choose show difference and if in doubt keep asking :)
[09:05] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2827
[09:06] <LokeDK> just prints like a content of a .diff file?
[09:06] <pupil> How do I mount my file systems?
[09:06] <deFrysk> !info mplayer
[09:06] <logikal_> deFrysk
[09:06] <logikal_> you know whats going on bro?
[09:06] <kbrooks> nalioth? pm?
[09:06] <deFrysk> !info mplayer-i386
[09:07] <Davidleeroth> pupil edit ftsab and then use the mount command
[09:07] <deFrysk> Nvidiot, repos are ok
[09:07] <pupil> you mean fstab
[09:07] <deFrysk> !mplayer
[09:07] <ubotu> somebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:07] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: that's what I figured
[09:07] <Davidleeroth> yes i do typo
[09:07] <Davidleeroth> Nvidiot I love your nick
[09:07] <deFrysk> Nvidiot, read the above and see if it helps
[09:07] <ollklkl> Hello, is there gonna be a Kubuntu Breezy RC too?
[09:07] <nalioth> logikal_: dont paste in here please
[09:08] <borgista> How do I get the lame & faad packages for breezy? 'sudo apt-get install lame faad' doesn't work.
[09:08] <morfeo> hola
[09:08] <deFrysk> !es
[09:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:09] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: strange, that wiki lists -586, -k6 and -amd64... maybe I should zap the -386 and grab -586
[09:09] <Davidleeroth> i wish that it was possible to request an edubuntu/kubuntu cd from shipit.ubuntu.com.  I guess that it really isnt a big deal to download kde after you install it to a system if you have a good connection (not 56k)
[09:09] <deFrysk> Nvidiot, sure ,why not
[09:10] <joolz> good evening
[09:10] <borgista> How do I get the lame & faad packages for breezy? 'sudo apt-get install lame faad' doesn't work.
[09:10] <joolz> or rather bad evening for me :\
[09:10] <joolz> i just upgraded from hoary to breezy and now my settings are borken
[09:10] <deFrysk> !tell borgista about restricted formats
[09:10] <Davidleeroth> joolz a bit mre specific....
[09:11] <shinu> anyone has an ipod? mine doesnt seem to be charging... im not sure if its the cable...
[09:11] <borgista> Thank you deFrysk
[09:11] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: affects mozilla-mplayer, but I'll reinstall that :)
[09:11] <cevizoglu> shinu: if it's blinking, it's not charging
[09:11] <joolz> Davidleeroth: i get a terminal login and a lot of these messages "-bash: /dev/null: permission denied"
[09:12] <Nvidiot> there we go :)
[09:12] <shinu> cevizoglu: what is blinking? the big do not disconnect sign?
[09:12] <Nvidiot> thanks guys (again)
[09:12] <joolz> when i first booted a lot of error messages about LC_CTYPE not being able to be used (file or dir not found)
[09:12] <etnoy> joolz: run ls -l /dev/null
[09:12] <cevizoglu> shinu: the ipod itself
[09:12] <shinu> cevizoglu: like... backlight?
[09:12] <pupil> should i edit fstab with vi,. or ?
[09:13] <borgista> deFrysk: Is this valid also for Breezy?
[09:13] <deFrysk> borgista, sorry valid for what ?
[09:13] <borgista> For getting lame & faad for Breezy.
[09:13] <borgista> or Hoary only?
[09:13] <cevizoglu> shinu: no... should be the same light that flashes when  the iPod is paused
[09:13] <pupil> So basically,. I have two hard drives,. hda1, hda2 hdb1, hdb2  hda1 has ubuntu on it.
[09:14] <etnoy> borgista: have you enabled multi/uni/verse in sources.list?
[09:14] <joolz> etnoy, i'm on windows now, so i will have to reboot for every suggestion or question. will ls -l /dev/null solve my problem?
[09:14] <deFrysk> borgista, did not read the wike are they available in muliverse ?
[09:14] <borgista> I'm not sure.
[09:14] <etnoy> no, it will help us find the problem
[09:14] <deFrysk> if yes it wil also work in breezy
[09:14] <borgista> I'll add it to sources.list
[09:14] <shinu> cevizoglu: not really sure what youre talking about... i just got it today ^^'
[09:14] <etnoy> if the permissions on /dev/null are too restricted you cannot write to it
[09:15] <kbrooks> well
[09:15] <etnoy> joolz: so you cannot use the computer at all?
[09:15] <joolz> etnoy, how can these permissions become so restricted from a dist-upgrade?
[09:15] <pupil> I don't recall setting a root password
[09:16] <pupil> how do I log in as root so that I can edit fstab?
[09:16] <joolz> etnoy, yes, i can boot (but without network) and do a terminal login
[09:16] <joolz> that;s about it
[09:16] <etnoy> joolz: are you on hoary or breezy?
[09:16] <scav> where is the gnome-logout script located
[09:16] <etnoy> and have you made any customizations?
[09:16] <joolz> after the upgrade? no
[09:16] <joolz> before that, of course :)
[09:16] <etnoy> and before?
[09:16] <joolz> but nothing drastic afaik
[09:16] <etnoy> okay
[09:16] <etnoy> well it sound weird
[09:17] <joolz> the system was running without problems for months on hoary and before that warty
[09:17] <etnoy> but try this: sudo chmod 777 /dev/null
[09:17] <flipy> is it safe to update from hoary to breezy? and is to so simply to change the apt sources.list and do a dist-upgrade?
[09:17] <etnoy> this will maximize the permissions on /dev/null
[09:17] <pupil> while the system is updating,. do i have to close any applications?
[09:17] <etnoy> but the change won't be left when you reboot
[09:17] <etnoy> pupil: you don't have to close anything
[09:18] <etnoy> this is linux :)
[09:18] <etnoy> no files are locked like on win
[09:18] <kbrooks> pupil: you can close them after it updates and reboot
[09:18] <bibe> when I login remotely from my laptop at work to my ubuntu machine at home, using ssh -X, and launch an X application, will all the traffic go through port 22, or should I make other tweaks on the office's firewall
[09:19] <pupil> how do I ensure that ubuntu mounts my file systems when the system boots?
[09:19] <etnoy> joolz: ls -l /dev/null looks like this for me, if it's anything else than that try the above command.
[09:19] <pupil> is that why I am editing the fstab?
[09:19] <etnoy> crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 1, 3 2005-10-01 14:28 /dev/null
[09:19] <HappyFool> bibe: afaik all goes through 22
[09:19] <etnoy> note the rw-rw-rw
[09:19] <HappyFool> hmm
[09:19] <pupil> and how do I get root acces,. I don't recall putting in a root password
[09:19] <HappyFool> !tell pupil about root
[09:19] <etnoy> joolz: see man chmod if you've got questions
[09:20] <vbgunz_> LokeDK: how things turned out?
[09:20] <pupil> HappyFool, if it is diabled,. how am I supposed to edit fstab?
[09:20] <logikal_> There is no mplayer in my synaptic package manager nor can i install it in apt-get
[09:20] <HappyFool> pupil: yeah, /etc/fstab specifies automatically mounted partitions
[09:20] <logikal_> what the fuck is going on
[09:20] <HappyFool> pupil: read the page ubotu sent to you
[09:20] <bibe> HappyFool : so I can use, e.g., Firefox as if I were at home?
[09:20] <TotallyNewOne> hi to all. Just wanted to say that i just installed 5.10 for the first time and until now had no problem at all. Network, Sound, Updates, KDE integration, vpn, everything. nice work and thanks to the ubuntu team.
[09:20] <pupil> HappyFool, ok,. thanks
[09:21] <HappyFool> bibe: i believe so; i can't remember what the difference between ssh -X and ssh -Y is
[09:21] <logikal_> ubuntu does install and work very good
[09:21] <HappyFool> hmm, bother
[09:21] <etnoy> pupil: precede a command with sudo, and you'll get root perms
[09:21] <joachim> is there a command to tell which apt package a particular file on my HD belongs to?
[09:21] <cevizoglu> shinu: ipod usually only charge when they're completely unmounted... since ubuntu automounts usb drives, you may need to eject from command-line or nautilus to have it start charging
[09:21] <pupil> etnoy
[09:21] <robsta> i have upgraded yesterday but still no sound on ibook g3, is this a known issue?
[09:21] <etnoy> and the required password is _your_ password
[09:21] <HappyFool> i'm getting lots of these spam messages -- what's the setting to disable non-reg users sending me /msg's /
[09:21] <etnoy> pupil: yes
[09:21] <Ng> joachim: dpkg -S /path/to/the/file
[09:22] <antisocialboris> my connection keeps timing out so i cant connect to security.ubuntu.com when i apt-get update
[09:22] <bibe> HappyFool : I am logged in from home (LAN, without any firewall between the laptop and the pc) and I have gedit open, netstat only shows port 22 connected
[09:22] <antisocialboris> anything i can do?
[09:22] <[LethAL] > HappyFool, "/msg nickserv set unfiltered off" iirc
[09:22] <HappyFool> [LethAL] : thank you
[09:22] <dalfa> hi!
[09:22] <joachim> thanks Ng :)
[09:23] <[LethAL] > HappyFool, services should set mode -6 on you then
[09:23] <dalfa> I have a question to the ubuntu community
[09:23] <bibe> I just wanted to be sure that tomorrow I will be able to connect from office ;)
[09:23] <nalioth> HappyFool: /umode +CE
[09:23] <[LethAL] > HappyFool, or +6, I can't remember
[09:23] <pupil> how do I check and see what partitons are on my hard disks?
[09:23] <nalioth> [LethAL] : that turns off the networks protection
[09:23] <pupil> df -v?
[09:23] <TotallyNewOne> fdisk -l
[09:23] <pupil> cool
[09:23] <[LethAL] > nalioth, ?
[09:23] <nalioth> [LethAL] : +6 is an unknown mode flag
[09:23] <dalfa> is good sell the free ubuntu cds?
[09:23] <chach> can anyone tell me how I figure out my http proxy??
[09:23] <dalfa> its ubuntu GPL?
[09:23] <[LethAL] > nalioth, "[18:33:20]  * services. sets mode +6 [LethAL] "
[09:23] <HappyFool> bibe: you should have a port 6010 open on the ssh server
[09:24] <nalioth> [LethAL] : set unfiltered off to nickserv turns OFF network protection from spamming
[09:24] <HappyFool> dalfa: you can sell 'em if people will buy 'em
[09:24] <nalioth> [LethAL] : have you tried /umode -6  ?
[09:24] <pupil> TotallyNewOne, fdisk -l does not work
[09:24] <LokeDK> vbgunz_, still unpacking stuff :(
[09:25] <HappyFool> use sudo fdisk -l
[09:25] <Davidleeroth> WHat distribution of debian is breezy based off of?
[09:25] <[LethAL] > nalioth, you're wrong, /msg nickserv help set unfiltered
[09:25] <vbgunz_> LokeDK: oh ok *but* how you handle it, accepted the default, kept the old or did you do the diff?
[09:25] <LokeDK> pushed y.. install package maintainer's
[09:26] <chach> newb here, can anyone tell me how I figure out my http proxy??
[09:26] <etnoy> i've got problems with my smbfs mounts disconnecting from my gentoo samba server
[09:26] <chach> i'm working on a network install
[09:26] <bibe> HappyFool : yes, it's open, but it's "talking" to port 1310 on the server
[09:26] <vbgunz_> LokeDK: ok ;) I hope it works!
[09:26] <Cryptid> nalioth , What is the command to del or remove directories??
[09:26] <nalioth> [LethAL] : the default setting of the network has filtering ON  HappyFool shouldn't have to msg nickserv anything
[09:26] <dalfa> happy fool: well i dont wanna sell them but here in my country there is a shop
[09:26] <etnoy> smb_file_read: Bill Evans Trio - Sunday at the Village Vanguard (1961)/04 - Solar.mp3 validation failed, error=4294967291
[09:26] <LokeDK> vbgunz_, so do i :)
[09:26] <dalfa> who sell ubuntu free cds
[09:26] <[LethAL] > nalioth, I know, but he might have thought it would be useful somewhere
[09:27] <etnoy> and I need to re-mount the shares
[09:27] <bibe> HappyFool : so I can expect X traffic not to be stopped by the firewall
[09:27] <nalioth> Cryptid: "man rm"
[09:27] <dalfa> and i wanna known if that is right with ubuntu license
[09:27] <etnoy> I've never encountered these problems on my other linux boxes
[09:27] <etnoy> dalfa: why don't you look att www.gnu.org and read the faq?
[09:27] <vbgunz_> Dalfa selling Ubuntu CDs at cost is reasonable otherwise give them away would be nice too, unless of course a huge amount of the proceeds go back to Ubuntu for further development would be great
[09:27] <etnoy> a lot of good info there
[09:28] <Davidleeroth> dalfa you can get them for fre at shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:28] <cumcum82> hi
[09:28] <Davidleeroth> hi
[09:29] <larsrohdin> hi=)
[09:29] <cumcum82> :)
[09:29] <vbgunz_> hi
[09:29] <cumcum82> i have problems
[09:29] <[LethAL] > Don't we all...
[09:29] <vbgunz_> yeah hehe
[09:29] <larsrohdin> word
[09:29] <cumcum82> i come to solve them
[09:29] <dalfa> i dont need buy, i just want to known is ubuntu was GPL
[09:29] <etnoy> cumcum82: welcome to the ubuntu therapy board then
[09:29] <Ng> deFrysk: some of it is GPL, some of it is other licenses
[09:30] <dalfa> because gpl let sell the soft
[09:30] <etnoy> dalfa: read the message in /etc/issue
[09:30] <Ng> err
[09:30] <cumcum82> therapy
[09:30] <Ng> dalfa: some of it is GPL, some of it is other licenses
[09:30] <cumcum82> :)
[09:30] <etnoy> ubuntu is a collection of many programs under various licenses
[09:30] <cumcum82> any one know how to configure spidermonkey?
[09:30] <Davidleeroth> ubuntu is perhaps the most fun word to type in all the land
[09:30] <larsrohdin> cumcum82, I don't but have you tried the 'man' pages?
[09:30] <Davidleeroth> iits a cool word because the n's and u's look so cool
[09:30] <etnoy> the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
[09:31] <etnoy> individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
[09:31] <dalfa> oh well thanks a lot
[09:31] <etnoy> dalfa: I mean /etc/motd
[09:31] <cumcum82> ok i do it 1st
[09:31] <Cryptid> nalioth , rm -d command isnt working
[09:31] <larsrohdin> cumcum82, always a good place to start
[09:31] <Davidleeroth> dalfa if you were to sell ubuntu cd's, it would be nice to return around 50 percent back to ubuntu (time for devel is money)
[09:31] <cumcum82> thnx
[09:31] <etnoy> cumcum82: and google :)
[09:32] <larsrohdin> Davidleeroth, ey the ubuntu team, do they accept donations?
[09:32] <HappyFool> Cryptid: do you get an error message? if so, what is it?
[09:32] <etnoy> larsrohdin: oh yes they do :(
[09:33] <nalioth> Cryptid: what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:33] <etnoy> :) sorry wrong paranthesis
[09:33] <larsrohdin> something to do when I get a job maybe...
[09:33] <vbgunz_> larsrohdin, who doesn't take donations ;)
[09:34] <MagicFab> hello
[09:34] <Davidleeroth> hello
[09:34] <Cryptid> HappyFool & nalioth , the error says cannot remove vmware-distrib/: Is a Directory
[09:34] <MagicFab> I just noticed 5.10RC1 is out
[09:34] <larsrohdin> vbgunz_, heh true
[09:34] <nalioth> Cryptid: again: what exactly are you wanting to do?
[09:34] <dalfa> davidleeroth: i dont want sell cds, i just want to known if does is letit by ubuntu license
[09:34] <Davidleeroth> i love vmware. i use it when i am on my win32 notebook just so i can use ubuntu/knoppix:)
[09:34] <bibe> MagicFab : yes!
[09:34] <MagicFab> If I had Colony 5 installed, can I "update" to 5.10RC1 ?
[09:34] <MagicFab> how ?
[09:34] <wolden> I've a question, you fine people: I tried installing beep media player but everytime I try to play an mp3 it just freezes and I have to force it to quit
[09:35] <Cryptid> nalioth i wanted to delete tat dir so that i can do a fresh installation
[09:35] <nalioth> MagicFab: you will never have to reinstall linux again
[09:35] <deFrysk> MagicFab, just upgrade regurarly
[09:35] <nalioth> MagicFab: apt-get will keep your box up to date
[09:35] <bibe> MagicFab : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:35] <deFrysk> MagicFab, you lucky bastard :D
[09:35] <MagicFab> nalioth: I know I don't have to reinstall but will the standard update manager bring me to RC1 ?
[09:35] <thefoot> is there any info/howto get ubuntu to see winxp network shares?
[09:35] <Cryptid> nalioth, it isnt allowing meo install VMware again it says that VMware install detected
[09:35] <nalioth> Cryptid: i'm about to send you the most dangerous command known to linux. be careful using it
[09:35] <FlangeR> Does anyone know what package I need to apt-get to run a java bin file?
[09:35] <MagicFab> apt-get update ? or apte-get upgrade...?
[09:35] <deFrysk> MagicFab, of course and beyond
[09:35] <larsrohdin> MagicFab, apt-get
[09:35] <HappyFool> hmm, what is 'rm -d' supposed to do, anyway? according to the help, '-d, --directory       unlink FILE, even if it is a non-empty directory', but i can't get it to work
[09:36] <MagicFab> thefoot: install SMB to start
[09:36] <Cryptid> nalioth, K i will b
[09:36] <bibe> apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade
[09:36] <HappyFool> !tell thefoot about samba
[09:36] <nalioth> MagicFab: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will do
[09:36] <Ng> FlangeR: as in the sun java .bin installer?
[09:36] <Cryptid> HappyFool, i used rm -d but it was useless
[09:36] <thefoot> thanks
[09:36] <pupil> How do I check what ubuntu I'm using?
[09:36] <bibe> use sudo, and then (or, better, before doing that) man apt-get
[09:36] <HappyFool> Cryptid: you still haven't told us what you're trying to achieve ;)
[09:36] <nalioth> HappyFool: if you read, it depends on 'unlink' in the kernel or something
[09:36] <kbrooks> MagicFab: RCs are not numbered
[09:36] <MagicFab> how about updating a hoary system to 5.10RC1 ?
[09:36] <kbrooks> MagicFab: only one RC
[09:36] <nalioth> HappyFool: he wants to remove a dir
[09:36] <MagicFab> how is that accomplished ?
[09:36] <HappyFool> nalioth: ah. i thought unlink was unix for delete
[09:36] <Cryptid> nalioth, yipee it worked
[09:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell MagicFab about upgrade2breezy
[09:37] <zoot_> hi, anyone here use XFCE? trying to get kiosk mode working (updated breezy)
[09:37] <nalioth> MagicFab: ubotu has priv msg'd you
[09:37] <pupil> nalioth, how do I check to see what ubuntu I'm running?
[09:37] <MagicFab> *huge tx*
[09:37] <Davidleeroth> pupil, uname -a
[09:37] <MagicFab> pupil: from command line: uname -a I think will give you kernel info
[09:37] <nalioth> pupil: open a terminal and type "lsb_release -a"
[09:37] <nalioth> Davidleeroth: catch up, friend
[09:38] <bibe> MagicFab : sudo sed -i -e "s/hoary/breezy/g" /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:38] <MagicFab> oh! lsb_release...
[09:38] <nalioth> MagicFab: lsb_release -a will tell you exactly what you've got
[09:38] <FlangeR> Ng: Eeeeeh.... maybe? I'm trying to play a Triplea game (axis and allies), it's a game writtin in Java. All I have is this .bin file. The website says I need java, but Sun doesn't provide deb packages. Does this help?
[09:38] <pupil> 5.10 the Breezy badger Release
[09:38] <vbgunz_> anyone know how Commercial Technical Support weighs in? I mean 250 for premium technical support... How long does that last? 1 year, 2 years, 3 years or more or less?
[09:38] <dmlinux> hey guys, i have to re install windows.... /sigh , when it installs , how do i make it so windows doesnt boot up automatically and Grub is recognized
[09:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell FlangeR about javadeb
[09:38] <HappyFool> vbgunz_: where do you see that?
[09:38] <vbgunz_> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/supportoptions/support/supportoptions/paidsupport/
[09:38] <Skid> !tell me about javadeb
[09:38] <nalioth> dmlinux: you'll have to rebuild grub, cuz windows loves the taste of it
[09:38] <pinucset> windows fucks all the grub...
[09:39] <Davidleeroth> how is hoary pronounced?
[09:39] <pinucset> they dont know what to do xD
[09:39] <Ng> FlangeR: see what ubotu just messaged you. thanks nalioth
[09:39] <dmlinux> nalioth god damn windows
[09:39] <vbgunz_> Davidleeroth: I believe whore ree
[09:39] <nalioth> pinucset: please watch the language
[09:39] <FlangeR> Thanx, both!
[09:39] <dmlinux> nalioth how do  i just repair windows then? its saying im missing a DLL
[09:39] <pinucset> ok, sorry ;)
[09:39] <nalioth> dmlinux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:39] <MagicFab> another unrelated question: How would I go about (re)presenting Ubuntu at local community/business events ?
[09:40] <shinu> cevizoglu: sorry, i went off to cook dinner
[09:40] <MagicFab> I'd like to give out documentation, free CDs and have some sort of branding of a kiosk I would be using. Is this possible ?
[09:40] <nalioth> MagicFab: order some CDs
[09:40] <nalioth> MagicFab: join your local LUG
[09:40] <nalioth> MagicFab: shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:40] <HappyFool> vbgunz_: it says 'Coverage: 1 year'
[09:40] <shinu> cevizoglu: ubuntu doesnt automount the ipod for me but it does put it into disc mode.
[09:40] <vbgunz_> MgicFab: good question, I inquired in the channel about ubuntu certification and someone mentioned Ubuntu is thinking about it...
[09:40] <shinu> cevizoglu: however, i just ejected it and the battery bar still doesnt seem to be charging
[09:40] <MagicFab> nalioth: done all that, just asking about using U' s trademark I guess, for example for backdrops etc.
[09:40] <vbgunz_> HappyFool, thank you... I know my idiocy is not at all perfect ;)
[09:41] <cevizoglu> shinu: then the ipod still thinks ubuntu is using it
[09:41] <nalioth> MagicFab: ask seveas when he shows up
[09:41] <zoot_> reprise: any xfce users here?
[09:41] <larsrohdin> zoot_, hepp
[09:41] <shinu> cevizoglu: anyway to get it charging maybe?
[09:41] <MagicFab> vbgunz_: there *is* certification in the works, it was announced recently I think (check the affiliates/partners program)
[09:41] <larsrohdin> zoot_, me
[09:41] <zoot_> larsrohdin: cool - used kiosk mode at all?
[09:42] <larsrohdin> zoot_, nope.. sorry
[09:42] <vbgunz_> MagicFab, thank you , nice to know!
[09:42] <zoot_> need to restrict users from altering the panel etc
[09:42] <cevizoglu> shinu: if the ipod is really unmounted, it will charge
[09:42] <zoot_> larsrohdin: thx
[09:42] <hyperactivecrond> is there a company that sells laptops with either (a) linux installed, or (b) no os installed
[09:42] <Davidleeroth> has anyone tried xpde? IMHO, i think it resembles winxp enough to even be acceptable
[09:42] <hyperactivecrond> Davidleeroth: +1
[09:42] <Davidleeroth> hyperactivecrond, hp actually sells a linux laptop
[09:42] <hyperactivecrond> for home use?
[09:42] <Davidleeroth> yeah
[09:42] <hyperactivecrond> like i cant buy for buisness
[09:42] <hyperactivecrond> Davidleeroth: model?
[09:42] <vbgunz_> XPDE I don't believe even grows anymore does it?
[09:43] <Davidleeroth> what did you mean by +!?
[09:43] <Thirsteh> Where does kernel-headers put the headerS?
[09:43] <MagicFab> vbgunz_:  http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/
[09:43] <nalioth> Davidleeroth: you scored
[09:43] <Thirsteh> not in /usr/src/linux apparently
[09:43] <shinu> cevizoglu: it isnt mounted in mtab and contrarily, it not charging but the battery is going empty really quickly
[09:43] <vbgunz_> MagicFab, thank you I found it when you mentioned it ;)
[09:43] <HappyFool> Thirsteh: linked from /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[09:43] <shinu> cevizoglu: and i mean really quickly...
[09:43] <thefoot> hmm after installing Samba, looking at the Network > General Tab.  There is no check box for Windows Networking
[09:43] <alex_> hi, does anyone have an actiontec dsl router?
[09:43] <MagicFab> ubotu: how can I 'register' to send private messages ?
[09:43] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, MagicFab
[09:44] <logikal_> well guys
[09:44] <nalioth> MagicFab: /msg nickserv help register
[09:44] <pupil> my graphics card is capable of 1600 X 1200 yet,. I can only go up to 1280 .. how doI change this?
[09:44] <kjb> i have a problem, my kernel is created with gcc3.4 and now i wanna install a software, but i have an updated gcc4.0.2
[09:44] <logikal_> every attempt i've made to install codes or mp3 support has failed.
[09:44] <hyperactivecrond> !register
[09:44] <ubotu> Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. This has meant that #ubuntu has had to be closed to unregistered users (for the moment).
[09:44] <HappyFool> thefoot: maybe system -> admin -> shared folders
[09:44] <kjb> now i wanna make my kernel net
[09:44] <Thirsteh> HappyFool, thanks
[09:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pupil about fixres
[09:44] <kjb> with make clone config
[09:45] <kjb> /bin/sh: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9/scripts/gcc-version.sh: No such file or directory
[09:45] <digis___> :(
[09:45] <logikal_> who wants to help me get my mp3s working?
[09:45] <vbgunz_> I really don't think XPDE is a bad idea... I think it is awesome... To me it would just be another way to get people a bit more interested into Linux altogether... Although I themed my Gnome beautifully, I don't object to XPDE... I just heard it's either dying or it is dead... Haven't looked into it since :(
[09:45] <Sieg> hi! sorry, I just made a stupid mistake of deleting all the stages in my grub directory... (thought I was on the CF... heh). Yes, very stupid, but anywhere I can dl them again? :) Tks
[09:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell logikal_ about mp3
[09:45] <susokukan47> ok, now i registered...
[09:45] <thefoot> HappyFool:  that doesnt let me setup my windows settings though like domain name etc..
[09:46] <logikal_> !restricted
[09:46] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:46] <pokkys> any BMPx user here?
[09:46] <HappyFool> thefoot: hrm. you're following the wiki page, right?
[09:46] <pokkys> yes
[09:46] <seife> Why do i get this kind of msgs when i try to open anything?
[09:46] <thefoot> HappyFool i sure am
[09:46] <susokukan47> i have an actiontec dsl modem and i can't get gaim to connect. after some tinkering with resolv.conf, firefox (and x-chat, obviously) work.....
[09:46] <kjb> can someone help me with this kernel thing?
[09:46] <pokkys> but X header miss
[09:46] <seife> The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[09:46] <seife> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.
[09:46] <HappyFool> thefoot: standby...
[09:47] <Thirsteh> HappyFool, apparently, "kernel-headers" is not sufficient to install Vmware and build the kernel module it needs - how do I install the whole kernel source via apt-get - is it possible?
[09:47] <Thirsteh> HappyFool, newest Hoary kernel
[09:47] <HappyFool> Thirsteh: linux-source-2.6.10
[09:47] <HappyFool> Thirsteh: i presume you installed linux-headers-386 already?
[09:47] <Answer> Hello All.  I am looking for a VNC solution that is easy to install and configure from the command line please :)
[09:48] <Thirsteh> ahhhh
[09:48] <hyperactivecrond> answer: xvnc?
[09:48] <Thirsteh> it's LINUX-soure
[09:48] <Thirsteh> source
[09:48] <Thirsteh> not kernel-source... man what's WRONG with Canonical!
[09:48] <Thirsteh> :p
[09:48] <Thirsteh> Thanks though HappyFool
[09:48] <seife> The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[09:48] <seife> Why do i get this kind of msgs when i try to open anything?
[09:48] <HappyFool> thefoot: hmm
[09:49] <HappyFool> thefoot: the wiki is confusing
[09:49] <squid0> seife: i get that occasionally too...
[09:49] <Answer> hyperactivecrond: is xvnc installed by default or what
[09:49] <thefoot> HappyFool:  more like outdated
[09:49] <seife> squid0, how u fix that?
[09:49] <seife> I dont want to reformat..
[09:50] <MagicFab> ok registered now
[09:50] <hyperactivecrond> Answer: apt-get install xvnc
[09:50] <MagicFab> tx.
[09:50] <seife> how do i install msttcorefonts.
[09:50] <seife>  squid0 help
[09:50] <meuserj|work> Thirsteh, linux-source makes more since to me than kernel-source... since linux isn't the ONLY kernel
[09:50] <Answer> hyperactivecrond: any chance it's backwards compatible with redhat 9 and you know where the rpm is? heh
[09:51] <squid0> seife: help? help???? ;)
[09:51] <HappyFool> thefoot: well, the alternative is to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:51] <HappyFool> thefoot: or, possibly easier, you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba'
[09:51] <squid0> seife: i don't know what the issue is.
[09:51] <Rossi> Hello
[09:51] <benkong2> is nvu not available for breezy?
[09:51] <Skid> hmm, is there such a  thing as a CLI nzb grabber?
[09:52] <kbrooks> benkong2:
[09:52] <nalioth> benkong2: build it
[09:52] <kbrooks> !info nvu breezy
[09:52] <ubotu> nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB
[09:52] <kbrooks> nalioth: ^
[09:52] <benkong2> thanks
[09:52] <nalioth> Skid: yes there are several
[09:52] <kbrooks> benkong2: ^
[09:52] <nalioth> Skid: visit sourceforge.net and search for 'nzb"
[09:52] <squid0> seife: nautilus is crashing. I imagine some process is crashing it, or it's getting overloaded with too much load. ??
[09:52] <hyperactivecrond> Answer: www.rpmfind.net
[09:52] <squid0> hey kbrooks
[09:52] <Skid> nalioth: yeah I have, all I see is QT GUI stuff
[09:52] <kbrooks> squid0: :P
[09:53] <squid0> :p yourself
[09:53] <squid0> ;)
[09:53] <Rossi> can anyone help me with installing nforce audio drivers?
[09:53] <benkong2> !nvu
[09:53] <ubotu> [nvu]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[09:53] <logikal_> nalioth, may i speak to you in om?
[09:53] <nalioth> Skid: there are perl nzb things there, atoo
[09:53] <cevizoglu> how do I see which device in /dev/ is attached to a mounted volume in /media?
[09:53] <logikal_> pm
[09:53] <HappyFool> cevizoglu: run 'mount' (no arguments)
[09:53] <nalioth> logikal_: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:53] <Skid> ok thanks i'll have anoother look around
[09:53] <seife> squid0, dunno man..
[09:53] <hyperactivecrond> does Dell still do  "open source ready"?
[09:53] <seife> i rebooted
[09:53] <seife> and the problem persist
[09:54] <squid0> seife: what are you doing when this happens? ie. what triggers it?
[09:54] <lsuactiafner> Rossi : dont install the audio drivers
[09:55] <Thorondor> hi, i've got some problems with my sound - music player, mplayer, etc work fine, but others like skype or teamspeak  do not work at all, i.e. i got neither input nor output - what devies/drivers do i have to fill in?
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> Rossi : the open source kernel drivers work much much better
[09:55] <seife> I dont know
[09:55] <seife> ):
[09:55] <squid0> seife: well, the first step to understanding what's going on is to record, or be aware of, what triggers the crash.
[09:56] <seife> How do i install Multiverse repositories?
[09:57] <daved> does anyone know if there are good 2.6.12 kernel .deb's for ubuntu that include xen support?
[09:57] <yasser> even if just 10 % are active in here, it is far too much for one channel, or not (greetings from northern germany btw)?
[09:57] <Alex_BO> what's the name of the program that show a cow or a penguin on the shell?
[09:57] <HappyFool> !tell seife about repos
[09:57] <squid0> happyfool: synaptic loading up...
[09:57] <thefoot> HappyFool: find anything?
[09:58] <anethema> only 22mb of updates in breezy today
[09:58] <anethema> whee
[09:58] <HappyFool> thefoot: no, i checked if there was a gnome-samba package of some sort, but nothing
[09:58] <squid0> seife: in Synaptic: Settings -> Repositories
[09:58] <HappyFool> thefoot: how computer-clueful are you?
[09:58] <thefoot> HappyFool: windows based im very good
[09:58] <thefoot> HappyFOol: linux....
[09:58] <squid0> sife: yes? no?
[09:59] <MagicFab> upgrading hoary to breezy on a test system.... downloading 1086 packages!
[09:59] <HappyFool> thefoot: for starters, try backing up /etc/samba/smb.conf and run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba'
[09:59] <MagicFab> fortunately it's at 300kbps
[10:00] <thefoot> how do i want to run Samaba? daemons or inetd
[10:00] <KasperTech> Hi, why can't I make the FGLRX-driver work ?
[10:00] <HappyFool> thefoot: oh, that doesn't do much
[10:00] <KasperTech> I'm only able to use the ATI-driver :S:S:
[10:00] <kbrooks> MagicFab: 34.6 kb/s -- updating package info
[10:00] <HappyFool> thefoot: the reconfigure is a bit useless, sorry
[10:00] <HappyFool> thefoot: choose 'daemons'
[10:00] <thefoot> Happy:  Done. Now what? :)
[10:01] <KasperTech> And the ATI-driver can't even make TuxRacer run alright :S?
[10:01] <HappyFool> thefoot: unfortunately you'll have to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:01] <seife> man
[10:01] <seife> thats nott he prob
[10:01] <seife> i have all the repositories installed
[10:01] <HappyFool> thefoot: 'sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf' (or 'gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf' if your prefer a GUI editor)
[10:01] <benkong2> !java
[10:01] <ubotu> java is, like, to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[10:01] <seife> And i still dont find the msttcorefonts package, sigh
[10:02] <squid0> seife: are you sure you're spelling it right?
[10:02] <nalioth> benkong2: you need java?
[10:02] <squid0> seife: check out the Unofficial guide.
[10:02] <elcuco_> hi, i have installed ubuntu 5.04, and i am upgrading it to 5.10.
[10:02] <seife> man fuck this, ill reinstall
[10:02] <seife> my ubuntu fucked up
[10:03] <seife> i dont see the windows on the taskbar
[10:03] <elcuco_> i have some problems with my music cd. it seems it does not want to play any music
[10:03] <seife> the low bar
[10:03] <nalioth> seife: language please. reinstalling isnt necessary
[10:03] <squid0> I've installed java on my system, but how do I make sure that PATH includes the path to java always?
[10:03] <seife> then i cant open up my audio folder
[10:03] <seife> it is..
[10:03] <nalioth> squid0: how did you install it?
[10:03] <HappyFool> thefoot: i must be off now, sorry. the wiki page is a bit useless; you can try www.samba.org -- they have lots of docs, including 'howtos' for various usage scenarios
[10:03] <MagicFab> seife: try creating a new user
[10:03] <squid0> sife: yes, language, please. keep calm and people will try to help you
[10:03] <MagicFab> and login as that user
[10:03] <seife> The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[10:03] <seife> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.
[10:03] <seife> ok ill try that.
[10:04] <squid0> nalioth: i used the jdk install from the Sun java site
[10:04] <seife> creating a new user deletes all the other stuff of other users?
[10:04] <nalioth> squid0: the wiki should mention how to set the $PATH for it
[10:04] <nalioth> seife: not it does not
[10:04] <zeus1_> When does ubuntu breezy final get released
[10:04] <seife> i cant open any folder
[10:04] <nalioth> zeus1_: oct 13
[10:04] <seife> i dont see stuff on the low bar
[10:04] <zeus1_> Final? not a beta?
[10:05] <kbrooks> zeus1_: yes
[10:05] <seife> i cant get msttcorefonts
[10:05] <zeus1_> does breezy have good wireless support
[10:05] <seife> i cant do anythin
[10:05] <kbrooks> ubotu: tell seife about repos
[10:05] <nalioth> seife open a terminal
[10:05] <squid0> nalioth: i'll check, but I've seen a few places on the web like 'export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/java/bin:.'
[10:05] <thefoot> Happy:  All done now what
[10:05] <squid0> but that is only temporary
[10:05] <nalioth> squid0: that will work in your .bashrc
[10:05] <squid0> nalioth: ah. where is that?
[10:05] <kbrooks> ~
[10:06] <squid0> thanks
[10:06] <kbrooks>  /home/user/
[10:06] <KasperTech> Please, anyone?
[10:06] <nalioth> squid0: /home/squid0/.bashrc
[10:06] <squid0> ok
[10:06] <Thorondor> i've got some problems with my sound - music player, mplayer, etc work fine, but other apps like skype or teamspeak  do not work at all, i.e. i got neither input nor output - what devices/drivers do i have to set in the options?
[10:06] <kbrooks> nalioth: i told him already :)
[10:06] <nalioth> kbrooks: i cant take it back when i hit 'enter'
[10:06] <yasser> can someone tell me, how much "the boss" pays for one CD of the Ubuntu-ShipIt?
[10:06] <nalioth> kbrooks: lag sucks
[10:06] <kbrooks> nalioth: ah
[10:07] <poningru> KasperTech: whats wrong?
[10:07] <KasperTech> poningru: I've got the ATI-driver working on my ATI Radeon X600
[10:07] <KasperTech> But it sucks.
[10:07] <thefoot> how do i stop and restart samba?
[10:07] <KasperTech> So I want to get a better driver, that's able to run Tuxracer e.g.
[10:07] <poningru> oh hold on
[10:07] <lorenzod> thefoot: /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:07] <poningru> have you looked at the ati wiki page
[10:08] <KasperTech> I've tried the FGLRX already.
[10:08] <KasperTech> Yes.
[10:08] <lorenzod> Hm.. that is sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:08] <poningru> didnt work?
[10:08] <thefoot> lorenzod: i'm runing it as a deamon
[10:08] <KasperTech> Nope, didn't work.
[10:08] <KasperTech> I got a turned-off screen. :S
[10:08] <poningru> ooph
[10:08] <rBo3Db> Has anyone else seen problems connecting Evolution to pop.gmail.com?.. (breezy)
[10:08] <poningru> yeah dont thing you have a solution then dude
[10:08] <thefoot> loren:  thanks
[10:08] <lorenzod> thefoot: what I said should work.
[10:08] <poningru> KasperTech: the problem is dude that ATI support for linux is pretty bad
[10:08] <pupil> where do I edit to add the resolution setting for ?
[10:09] <poningru> when compared to nvidia etc.
[10:09] <zeus1_> does breezy have good wireless internet support?
[10:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pupil about fixres
[10:09] <pupil> I need  to add 1600 x 1200
[10:09] <KasperTech> poningru: I know, but there must be something that makes my x600 run tuxraver :( ??
[10:09] <pupil> I am at the fixres thing
[10:09] <lorenzod> thefoot: otherwise, kill -HUP <samba-PID>
[10:09] <nalioth> pupil: ubotu privmsg'd you
[10:09] <ompaul> !tell zeus1_ about wireless
[10:09] <pupil> nalioth, but it says its for Hoary,. not Breezy
[10:09] <poningru> KasperTech: I am assuming you have googled the issue
[10:09] <rBo3Db> Has anyone else seen problems connecting Evolution to pop.gmail.com?.. (breezy)
[10:09] <KasperTech> poningru: of course.
[10:09] <pupil> nalioth,  I am using breezy
[10:09] <poningru> KasperTech: apart from that I have no clue dude sorry
[10:10] <KasperTech> Dammit.
[10:10] <zeus1_> ompaul I already looked on there...my cards not even displayed on that page
[10:10] <nalioth> pupil: it's the same process
[10:10] <pupil> I'll read it anyway
[10:10] <pupil> oh,. ok
[10:10] <zeus1_> tell me if u can find a DWL-AG530 card on there plz
[10:10] <squid0> nalioth, kbrooks: works great.
[10:10] <poningru> KasperTech: wait till breazy comes out
[10:10] <nalioth> rBo3Db: wait 5 minutes b4 you repeat the same question
[10:10] <KasperTech> poningru: What'll that do?
[10:10] <rBo3Db> nalioth ok
[10:10] <poningru> KasperTech: because x was modularized and so trying different driver will not crash X
[10:11] <poningru> and lots of driver work went into it as well
[10:11] <ompaul> !tell zeus1_ about ndiswrapper
[10:11] <poningru> so hopefully one of the new fixes is about your particular ati
[10:11] <KasperTech> poningru: okay, so when will I get the wanted effect :o?
[10:11] <KasperTech> Yea.
[10:11] <poningru> KasperTech: a week from now
[10:11] <poningru> oct 13
[10:11] <tristanmike> rBo3Db, I'm using Hoary and I just check, doesn't look like there is a problem, of course, I don't get much email, :(
[10:11] <poningru> or download the RC
[10:11] <poningru> released already
[10:11] <KasperTech> Okay... till then I think it'll do.
[10:12] <poningru> yeah sorry dude
[10:12] <KasperTech> NP, thanks for trying though,
[10:12] <rBo3Db> tristanmike, on hoary it worked well for me... not on breezy...
[10:12] <pupil> how the heck am i supposed to know my videlo cards BUS identifier?
[10:13] <SogniX> hello! can anyone tell me the best / easiest way to import contacts from OS X's addressbook (different computer)
[10:13] <SogniX> into Evolution
[10:13] <pupil> nalioth, This thing is asking me for video car's bus identifier,. I have no idea
[10:13] <tristanmike> rBo3Db, sorry couldn't help you out, Breezy's not offical, so I stay away :)
[10:13] <nalioth> rBo3Db: there are lots of things that dont work yet on breezy (it's not finished)
[10:14] <poningru> nalioth: I hope you are not serious cause its a week away
[10:14] <rBo3Db> yeah i know... just want to check if there's another unhappy chap..'
[10:14] <nalioth> poningru: i'm afraid i am
[10:15] <thefoot> do i setup authentication, like the username/pw, in smb.conf?
[10:15] <pupil> Can anyone tell me where I find my Video Card's bus Identiier?
[10:15] <thefoot> right now i'm mounting and it's saying access denied
[10:17] <linuxboy> any screenshots of hoary rc ?
[10:17] <pupil> what is 32 mb in kb ?
[10:18] <shadeofgrey> is it possible to run superkaramba with ubuntu?
[10:18] <shadeofgrey> id really like to make my ubuntu installation to behave like an OSX box...
[10:19] <poningru> shadeofgrey: yes I believe so look in the repositories
[10:19] <poningru> I believe its in univ/multiv
[10:19] <hyperactivecrond> where do you get string?
[10:19] <poningru> !superkaramba
[10:19] <ubotu> SuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org
[10:20] <shadeofgrey> okay...  does anybody know how to actually install it and then add the components that make the linux desktop look like aqua?
[10:20] <shadeofgrey> ugh!  id have to install kde??
[10:20] <linuxboy> pupil: 32,768
[10:21] <LaptopZZ> is the amd64 debian pure64 or multiarxch
[10:21] <poningru> shadeofgrey: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62713
[10:21] <poningru> shadeofgrey: no you can install just the prog
[10:22] <poningru> ofcourse you have to install the libs
[10:22] <poningru> but this is all done within 5 or 6 clicks
[10:22] <poningru> and password entry
[10:24] <Answer> Who was telling me about Xvnc before?  I need to get Display 0 (Zero) thru VNC please
[10:24] <protok0l> how do i set up a joystick?
[10:24] <zeus1_> what a bunch of bs..no internet! theres no internet! i cant connect to the internet! wireless is too hard to set up! !!!
[10:24] <Kaparen> I got big problems getting my NVIDIA drivers to work, Ive tried updating them with Synaptic, Ive updated tehm manually btu I always end up with what I think is a (EE)NVIDIA(0)FAiled to load the NVIDIA kernel module. any suggestions?
[10:24] <Answer> hyperactivecrond: do you know how to get display zero thru vnc?
[10:24] <LokeDK> I've just upgraded to breezy, but I can't compile the nvidia driver.. first of all it complains about that I have a different gcc version than the one the kernel was compiled with - 2nd, if i ignore that, it builds and after that it complains about something with wrong kernel-headers.. and nvidia.ko
[10:25] <linuxboy> LokeDK: you installed the nvidia package?
[10:25] <LokeDK> I have installed the new linux headers and maked an ln -s linux-headers-$(uname -r) linux
[10:25] <LokeDK> no
[10:25] <poningru> LokeDK: why not just use the apt one
[10:25] <LokeDK> i use.. from their website
[10:25] <LokeDK> dunno
[10:25] <LokeDK> :D
[10:25] <linuxboy> LokeDK: there is an ubuntu package for the drivers
[10:25] <LokeDK> oh okay.. what's the name of the package?
[10:25] <LokeDK> I've always used from the website since i started on linux
[10:26] <Answer> LokeDK: You should remove whatever you did so far...
[10:26] <linuxboy> LokeDK: search the forums
[10:26] <poningru> LokeDK: tsk tsk tsk
[10:26] <poningru> LokeDK: open up synaptic
[10:26] <Answer> LokeDK: nvidia-glx
[10:26] <poningru> and search for nvidia-glx
[10:26] <poningru> yeah that
[10:26] <LokeDK> thx
[10:26] <Answer> there is also nvidia-settings
[10:27] <MikeStyle> anyone know how i can customize my taskbar like making it rounded, transparent but kinda blurry see through
[10:27] <Thorondor> how do i know which sound device i have to use such that teamspeak, skype etc work?
[10:27] <linuxboy> poningru: isn't it in restricted?
[10:27] <Answer> MikeStyle: You could write an entire theme :)
[10:27] <FarrisG> Anyone have a guess as to why it takes so long for totem to start up?
[10:27] <MikeStyle> Answer, not that skilled :)
[10:27] <Kaparen> what are kernel headers?
[10:27] <GDorn> FarrisG:  because totem is not so good.
[10:27] <LokeDK> brb fellas.. restarting X
[10:28] <Answer> linuxboy:  nvidia-glx is in Miscellaneous - Graphical (restricted)
[10:28] <Seveas> mdz, was already in the topic :)
[10:28] <linuxboy> Answer: you're talking hoary or breezy?
[10:28] <Answer> Anybody know how to get display zero thru vnc? :)
[10:28] <poningru> linuxboy: ?
[10:29] <FarrisG> GDorn: Not an explanation here. It takes about 30 seconds to start up as a normal user, but as root it will start up almost instantaneously
[10:29] <MikeStyle> guys, im trying to get my bottom taskbar to look like the one in this pic "http://kde-look.org/content/pre1/6384-1.jpg" but im not sure how
[10:29] <Cryptid> nalioth, how do i check my linux kernel
[10:29] <LokeDK> Thanks a lot, it worked
[10:30] <stratigm> hello all
[10:30] <Answer> MikeStyle: Use kde and download all the themes
[10:30] <Seveas> Cryptid, uname -a
[10:30] <MikeStyle> Answer, i do use kde and i have a bunch of themes, but that part of the taskbar is custom
[10:30] <MikeStyle> im using kde 3.5 and ubuntu 5.10
[10:30] <ompaul> Answer, you are asking for it :)
[10:30] <kbrooks> lol.
[10:30] <Answer> ompaul: I am asking for a way to see Display Zero thru a VNC Client.
[10:31] <Zukero> hi
[10:31] <FarrisG> Answer: What do you mean by Display Zero?
[10:31] <FarrisG> Answer: You mean like vino does? Sort of a remote desktop type thing?
[10:31] <Answer> FarrisG: I mean most VNC servers spawn a new display as in Display 1.  I want display zero
[10:31] <zeus1_> does wireless internet work with DWL-AG530 wireless network cards???
[10:31] <zeus1_> on ubuntu
[10:31] <stratigm> i installed ubuntu 5.10 and i have a problem. i cant see any devices with ls /dev
[10:31] <Answer> !tell zeus1_ about HardwareSupport
[10:31] <Answer> dang what is hardware support
[10:31] <linuxboy> stratigm: that is a problem
[10:31] <FarrisG> Answer: Display 0 is usually the display on the console
[10:32] <Zukero> how can I install dhcpcd on ubuntu on a computer without current connection, aka with another connected comp and usb key
[10:32] <stratigm> lol
[10:32] <ompaul> Answer, so knock off 0 as a getty
[10:32] <kjb> how can i get under ubuntu the right kernel-headers to the right gcc-version? mine are not kompatibel
[10:32] <mdz> Seveas: didn't see it way up there at the beginning ;-)
[10:32] <Answer> ompaul: How do I "knock off 0 as a getty"
[10:32] <Answer> !tell zeus1_ about hardware
[10:33] <kjb> http://pastebin.com/385455
[10:33] <stratigm> come on! i mean my hard disk is mounted at /dev/hda2 but there is nothing in /dev !
[10:33] <Somazx> does dpkg-buildpackage check for security updates before configuring and building?
[10:34] <daveo> anyone else having difficulty with Evolution since yesterday'
[10:34] <zeus1_> that doesnt help u kno why because my network card isnt listed on there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!1111111
[10:34] <tristanmike> zeus1_, you risk being banned for actions like that
[10:35] <nalioth> zeus1_: are you having keyboard problems?
[10:35] <zeus1_> i dont want to get baned
[10:35] <diplo> zeus1_ : I've used DLink wireless cards with 5.10 and was supported from install
[10:35] <diplo> Not sure on specific cards
[10:35] <zeus1_> the ag530 im having trouble with
[10:35] <zeus1_> lots and lots of trouble
[10:35] <Answer> How to un-rm ?
[10:35] <nalioth> zeus1_: then watch your keyboard repeat rate
[10:35] <poningru> !wifi
[10:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:35] <LokeDK> Is Breezy based on debian etch? since /etc/debian_version says testing/unstable
[10:35] <poningru> Answer: hehe not possible
[10:35] <nalioth> Answer: you don't un-rm
[10:36] <lorenzod> daveo: no
[10:36] <Answer> How to un-delete ?
[10:36] <poningru> Answer: not possible
[10:36] <nalioth> Answer: you dont
[10:36] <daveo> can't get Evolution to start since yesterday's upgrade
[10:36] <poningru> Answer: dude move stuff to .Trash from now on
[10:36] <Answer> So if somebody says they undeleted something in the past, they are lying?  or are the other ways
[10:36] <lorenzod> daveo: Any error messages when you start?
[10:37] <ompaul>  Answer they used the trash can as a staging post to deletion
[10:37] <daveo> lorenzod: nothing just fails immediately after starting before the complete screen is drawn
[10:37] <zeus1_> i think thats bs..
[10:37] <ompaul> Answer, seems I was a tad optimistic about that 0
[10:37] <daveo> lorenzod: I did have a bit of trouble with a folder yesterday so I'm wondering if I have a corrupt file or something
[10:37] <lorenzod> daveo: try running from a terminal and see what happens.
[10:38] <ompaul> zeus1_,  what is?
[10:38] <zeus1_> im wayyyy too experienced a linux user to need that crap man
[10:38] <lorenzod> daveo: could well be.
[10:38] <zeus1_> jk
[10:38] <zblach> hi
[10:38] <daveo> lorenzod: do you know of anyway to repair a corrupt folder in Evolution??
[10:38] <lorenzod> daveo: not really. never had to do it so..
[10:38] <zeus1_> can anyone help me set up wireless internet lol
[10:38] <pupil> does ubuntu come with an emulator for windows applications?
[10:39] <Answer> pupil: see wine or cedega
[10:39] <ompaul> pupil, why not look for the alternatives?
[10:39] <pupil> Answer, are these applications already on the system?
[10:39] <bz0b> hey guys
[10:39] <Answer> pupil: probably not.  see synaptic
[10:39] <pupil> ompaul, I would,. but my wife insists on using a mail application called
[10:39] <ompaul> cedega costs money
[10:40] <pupil> first class
[10:40] <bz0b> ompaul actually there is a free version
[10:40] <daveo> lorenzod: I've never had any problem before either.
[10:40] <fenar> cedega cvs is free
[10:40] <bz0b> yeah'
[10:40] <zblach> I have multiple partitions for storing stuff. Dual boot and all, i keep all my files except my OSs on Fat32. Since my recent reformat, I've not been able to write to these drives. how to remedy?
[10:40] <daveo> zeus1_: what card are you using?
[10:40] <ompaul> ahh
[10:40] <zeus1_> daveo : DWL-AG530
[10:40] <GoodSoft> I have a question: can i set language for different application independently? For example: all system is working in russian, but XMMS - in English/
[10:41] <daveo> zeus1_: should probably work if you use ndiswrapper
[10:41] <Fraeon> GoodSoft, why'd you want to do that?
[10:41] <zblach> and I can't sudo chmod +rwx these drives either
[10:41] <zeus1_> daveo: I have absolutly NO clue AT ALL how to use ndiswrapper I Followed the guide on the wiki it confused the hell out of me and im upset now : /
[10:42] <GoodSoft> Fraeon: because I can't set up a font in XMMS, so it shows only some set of symbols
[10:42] <hyperactivecrond> !string
[10:42] <ubotu> Wish i knew, hyperactivecrond
[10:42] <TiMiDo> hey people
[10:42] <TiMiDo> wuz up
[10:42] <daveo> zeus1_: I know what you mean. ndiswrapper basically lets you use a Win driver because there is no linux driver
[10:42] <daveo> zeus1_: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[10:43] <carthik> zeus1_, a search shows that the madwifi driver should be the one youre lookng for :http://users.linpro.no/janl/hardware/wifi.html
[10:43] <avalost> anyone figure out what you need to do to override the ubuntu logo on the applcations menu in gnome with the newer releases?
[10:44] <zblach> is there any way to add write access to Fat32 partitions?
[10:44] <TiMiDo> avalost changed the theme,
[10:44] <TiMiDo> zblach yeah man mount or nano /etc/fstab
[10:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zblach about windowsdrives
[10:44] <avalost> TiMiDo, I have a custom theme installed, and have switched icon path everywhere I could think of
[10:44] <Kaparen> how do you update kernel?
[10:45] <carthik> zblach, you can change permissions after mounting too : chmod 777 /mnt/windows ?
[10:45] <poningru> Kaparen: it does it for you
[10:45] <TiMiDo> Kaparen sudo apt-cache search kernel-image
[10:45] <avalost> Kaparen, grab the latest linux-image2.6.9.blah
[10:45] <monstah> why can't i use any other resolution in Gnome than 1024x768 when my monitor can do 1280x800 in Windows?
[10:45] <Answer> monstah:  fixres
[10:45] <zblach> carthik, that doesn't seem to work
[10:45] <poningru> !tell monstah about fixres
[10:45] <monstah> Answer: how?
[10:45] <GoodSoft> root@ns:/home/paul# fixres
[10:45] <GoodSoft> bash: fixres: command not found
[10:46] <TiMiDo> GoodSoft do apt-get install fixres
[10:46] <poningru> monstah: dude did you not see what I showed you?
[10:46] <bz0b> when is the final release of 5.10 out?
[10:46] <carthik> zblach, tried this? http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountfat : after you make the changes, remount the drive once
[10:46] <poningru> bz0b: oct 13
[10:46] <Kaparen> thanks for the help...trying it now.
[10:46] <monstah> poningru: no?
[10:46] <TiMiDo> Kaparen np
[10:46] <bz0b> poningru: thanks
[10:46] <poningru> !tell monstah about fixres
[10:46] <GoodSoft> TiMiDo: Can't find package fixres
[10:46] <poningru> did you not get that message from ubotu?
[10:47] <monstah> now i got it :)
[10:47] <monstah> thanx
[10:47] <poningru> np
[10:47] <poningru> !tell GoodSoft about fixres
[10:49] <poningru> um
[10:49] <poningru> anyone need help?
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> ??
[10:49] <Naunaud> Hello
[10:49] <pablo_> hi everybody
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> howdies
[10:49] <poningru> Hi Dr. Pablo
[10:49] <Somazx> yes - what all does dpkg-buildpackage do
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> i need to get 5.10 ppc working on my imacdv.. it started to install then poped up some error.. dident have time to look into it.
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> :(
[10:50] <Naunaud> OMG 570 personns here
[10:50] <poningru> you sure you are using the ppc cd?
[10:51] <poningru> not another arch?
[10:51] <Ruffles> hi. i've got problem with ubuntu concerning the sound which doesn't  work, it's just mute i can't hear anything
[10:51] <pablo_> I don't know if I can ask a hardware question here...
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> poningru,  yes.. :P it started to install and copy over the packages.. then failed
[10:51] <poningru> Dr_Willis: also make srue that the cd wasnt corrupt
[10:51] <poningru> sure*
[10:51] <Ruffles> even though xmms seems to be working but with no sound
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> yea.. thats the next thing to check..
[10:51] <poningru> did you burn it?
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> yes i did.
[10:51] <crimsun> Ruffles: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:51] <nalioth> pablo_: ask the channel your question
[10:51] <poningru> yeah def try another cd
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> downloaded it yesterday.
[10:52] <frank23> !tell Ruffles about sound
[10:52] <pablo_> has anybody a canon i250 working with hoary???
[10:53] <pablo_> I think I have read everything in the net about that but I couldn't find any solution yet... :(
[10:53] <Ruffles> crimsun: what do you mean?
[10:53] <crimsun> Ruffles: open a Terminal, type amixer, paste all that output onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:54] <Ruffles> oh
[10:54] <Ruffles> ok
[10:54] <Ruffles> thankx crimsun
[10:54] <afranke> is there anybody able to help me about shipit here?
[10:54] <poningru> afranke: whats the prob
[10:54] <apokryphos> afranke: it's best to just ask your question
[10:55] <afranke> ok
[10:55] <nalioth> afranke: ask your question
[10:55] <kennethlove> anyone know how i can configure the extra buttons on my mouse?
[10:55] <TiMiDo> kenneth sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:55] <afranke> so I'm a Computer science student and I'm also the president of an association at my school
[10:55] <kennethlove> TiMiDo: k, thanks.
[10:55] <afranke> and I need a large amount of cd's
[10:55] <apokryphos> afranke: email canonical
[10:56] <kbrooks> apokryphos: shipit can do it
[10:56] <afranke> info@shipit.ubuntu.com ?
[10:56] <kbrooks> canonical does it all for free
[10:56] <apokryphos> kbrooks: for *large* amounts it's best to email
[10:56] <avalost> ok, i've tried smeg, and gconf, still unable to change the ubuntu logo in my gnome menu, anyone have a workaround?
[10:56] <kbrooks> apokryphos: why
[10:56] <afranke> but the real matter is I need them to be shipped as fast as possible
[10:56] <apokryphos> kbrooks: because you can't order more than 10 at once
[10:57] <poningru> afranke: yeah email them saying that
[10:57] <crimsun> Ruffles: give me the url when you're done
[10:57] <afranke> what is considered *large* by the shipit system ?
[10:57] <poningru> apokryphos: says who?
[10:57] <kbrooks> apokryphos: what is the point of the restriction?
[10:57] <ompaul> you can order any amount you want
[10:57] <Chousuke> afranke: hundred+? :P
[10:57] <apokryphos> poningru: that's what it was last time I checked
[10:57] <kbrooks> ompaul: prove it
[10:57] <LokeDK> err. nautilus --browser .. what happened to the address line?
[10:57] <poningru> um dont think so
[10:57] <poningru> hold on let me check
[10:58] <ompaul> I looked for 100 on the shipit page - it is a 'special order'
[10:58] <holycow> jim *backo*
[10:58] <tristanmike> they have choices now, yeah, and the "special order" too
[10:58] <afranke> for 5.04 I ordered 25 x86 cds :)
[10:58] <ompaul> you have to define why you want that many
[10:58] <apokryphos> aha, it has indeed changed
[10:58] <Chousuke> I placed an order a while ago for some PPC and x86 cds
[10:58] <tristanmike> it's really nice now
[10:58] <apokryphos> much better system; no need for the email
[10:58] <Chousuke> I guess they'll be Breezy
[10:59] <ompaul> apokryphos, say thank you people :)
[10:59] <tristanmike> lol
[10:59] <fenar> how much cost 1 ubuntu?
[10:59] <afranke> Chousuke: no I got them :)
[10:59] <tristanmike> fenar, free
[10:59] <tristanmike> fenar, even shipping
[10:59] <apokryphos> ompaul: lalala lala :P
[10:59] <poningru> fenar: you can download it as much as you want
[10:59] <ompaul> apokryphos, take your fingers out of your ears
[10:59] <nalioth> afranke: if you have what you consider a large request, you can email them and discuss it
[10:59] <fenar> have they nice box?
[10:59] <apokryphos> back later
[11:00] <afranke> nalioth: k thx
[11:00] <Chousuke> fenar: in fact, please order as many as you need and give to your friends.
[11:00] <pablo_> thank you all
[11:00] <pablo_> bye
[11:00] <fenar> Chousuke i can sell it
[11:00] <Chousuke> fenar: yes.
[11:00] <fenar> 1000 x 1$ = 1000$
[11:00] <afranke> what will you do with the money ?
[11:00] <Chousuke> I don't think they'll send you that many easily.
[11:01] <frank23> fenar: you won't get 1000 for free with no good reason
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> i want to wallpaper my house with Ubuntu Cd's :P
[11:01] <Seveas> fenar, only locoteams get that many
[11:01] <Chousuke> fenar: You shouldn't sell them anyway.
[11:01] <tristanmike> lol @ Dr_Willis
[11:01] <frank> save xp discs for that
[11:02] <Chousuke> But you're free to, if you really want.
[11:02] <frank23> and you'd be screwing over people you are selling to since anyone can get it for free
[11:02] <[LethAL] > Dr_Willis, A better use would be installing them
[11:02] <Ruffles> crabstic: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2833
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> [LethAL] ,  ive allredy given out copies to several friends. :P
[11:02] <guidan> how to install wine?
[11:02] <frank> i wasted $200 on my xp disc
[11:02] <afranke> thx y'all, see ya
[11:02] <Ruffles> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2833
[11:02] <pupil> When i attempt to run wineCVS.sh, the install stops,. I think its because I'm not running it in root
[11:02] <frank> wine is only good for games.  office sucks.
[11:03] <kbrooks> frank: TWO HUNDRED?!?
[11:03] <pupil> can anyone asssist with this?
[11:03] <Ruffles> crabstic: i'm sorry wrong person
[11:03] <frank> sure
[11:03] <frank23> guidan: use synaptic
[11:03] <kbrooks> pupil: i doubt anyone can
[11:03] <frank> did you try with apt first?
[11:03] <frank23> guidan: enable the universe repository if you haven't already
[11:03] <guidan> frank23: i cant find that in system
[11:03] <guidan> where can i find it?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> if you think that pupil  why not run it as root then.. or just 'apt-get install wine' ?
[11:03] <frank23> guidan: wine is only on x86, also
[11:03] <pupil> hmm
[11:03] <pupil> Dr_Willis, indeed
[11:04] <Chousuke> pupil: use sudo? :p
[11:04] <pupil> would'nt I have to use sudo
[11:04] <frank23> !repositories
[11:04] <pupil> right
[11:04] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[11:04] <frank> wine is not a computer emulator, it just a link to windows api
[11:05] <Kaparen> when I 'sudo nvidia-glx-config' enable Ubuntu tells me that 'Error: your X configuration has been altered. This script cannot proceed automatically.' what should I do?
[11:05] <frank> is there a list of mirrors for ubuntu packages that can be used with apt-spy
[11:05] <TiMiDo> frank apt-setup
[11:05] <crimsun> Ruffles: amixer sset 'IEC958' off
[11:05] <frank23> Kaparen: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually
[11:05] <[LethAL] > Kaparen, and change nv to nvidia
[11:05] <frank23> Kaparen: change driver "nv" to "nvidia"
[11:06] <[LethAL] > ^^
[11:06] <pupil> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[11:06] <[LethAL] > !wine
[11:06] <[LethAL] > oops
[11:06] <[LethAL] > !info wine
[11:06] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[11:06] <poningru> wtf
[11:06] <[LethAL] > pupil, Enable universe
[11:07] <Kaparen> frank23: ah ok then it's already been done but Ubuntu still won't work 'NVIDIA failed to load kernel module'
[11:07] <pupil> I have no idea how to do that.
[11:07] <nightswim> :>
[11:07] <pupil> [LethAL] , I have no idea how to do that.
[11:07] <frank23> Kaparen: how did you install the nvidia drivers?
[11:07] <crimsun> !tell pupil about repos
[11:07] <poningru> pupil: go to synaptic
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> this is when a good reading of the ubuntu wikis comes in handy. :P
[11:07] <zeus1_> Anyone can help me set up ndiswrapper for DWL-AG530 wireless cards?
[11:08] <Kaparen> frank23: I've tried both manually like in the Wiki doc's and Synaptic
[11:08] <poningru> press settings->repositories
[11:08] <frank23> Kaparen: did you install nvidia-glx, then?
[11:09] <jocke1s> whats this about: Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library
[11:09] <Ruffles> crimsun: thanks
[11:09] <Ruffles> crimsun: but it ain't workin' yet
[11:09] <jocke1s> Its starting to irritate me :)
[11:09] <Ruffles> :|
[11:10] <pupil> Wine is not in S ynaptic
[11:10] <frank> pupil: do you have access to sudo or the root password?
[11:10] <pupil> sudo yes
[11:10] <pupil> frank, sudo
[11:10] <rumo> hi
[11:10] <[LethAL] > Does anyone know why artwiz-cursor won't install on breezy?
[11:11] <Kaparen> frank23: Nvidia-glx Version 1.0.7174
[11:11] <frank> /etc/apt/sources.list is the list of servers you download from
[11:11] <kahuna_> Hi.
[11:12] <jocke1s> should LC_CTYPE LS_MESSAGES LC_ALL have any values ?
[11:12] <etnoy> does anybody know the status of hibernating w/ nvidia drivers?
[11:12] <jocke1s> when doing locale
[11:12] <kahuna_> Is there a way to track the source packages that I build in apt?
[11:12] <frank> if you type (without quotes) "man sources.list" into a terminal, you will find out about it.
[11:12] <frank23> Kaparen: I'm not sure what the problem is....
[11:12] <nalioth> kahuna_: you are using the source pkgs from the repos? or building your own?
[11:12] <kahuna_> my own
[11:12] <Kaparen> frank23: when I check the Nvidia log I see this problem: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[11:13] <kahuna_> I faintly remember doing something like that when I used debain a few years back...
[11:13] <nalioth> kahuna_: then you should read the debian maintainers guide (left side of debian.org)
[11:13] <kahuna_> thanks for the pointer
[11:14] <jocke1s> anyone? Anyone swedish here who can paste his /etc/environment file ?
[11:15] <esac> is there a screen reader for pdf files ?
[11:15] <crimsun> Ruffles: so no sounds work?
[11:15] <nalioth> esac: you mean in the terminal?
[11:15] <guidan> frank23: frank when i use apt-get install wine it says wine is already the newest version
[11:15] <guidan> does that mean i have it install laready?
[11:15] <guidan> allready*
[11:16] <Kaparen> jockels: LANGUAGE="en_SE:en"
[11:16] <Kaparen> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[11:16] <rumo> hi, is there anyone who can tell me how to install the sane-genesys backend? its not in the standard hoary/breezy debian-package
[11:16] <frank> yes, but you may have to configure it still.
[11:16] <esac> nalioth: terminal , or simply open a pdf file and have the computer speak it to you
[11:16] <guidan> frank. how?
[11:16] <guidan> is there a site that shows me
[11:16] <nalioth> esac: i dont think so on either
[11:16] <grndslm> hey guys...i just tried to change somebody's username/home dir to another name....but now when i restart it, no username & pass will let me login...what do i do?
[11:16] <pupil> Synaptic does not list wine or cedega
[11:16] <guidan> or guide me
[11:17] <Seveas> pupil, wine is in multiverse
[11:17] <frank> I don't think cedega is in any repository
[11:17] <frank23> pupil: you need universe enabled, then do a reload, then wine will be available if you run x86
[11:17] <frank> guidan, try winesetuptk
[11:17] <Dreamglider> how can i access (for read only) my WinXP disk from ubuntu ?
[11:17] <frank> full setup program
[11:17] <pupil> ohh, ok
[11:17] <frank23> pupil: cedega is proprietary
[11:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dreamglider about ntfs
[11:17] <pupil> ic
[11:17] <Kaparen> ok. Il guess i have to reinstall and if that doesnt help change dist. A reinstall will probably fix things. Thansk for your help Frank23
[11:17] <pupil> How do I enable universe?
[11:17] <frank> mount the winxp as either ntfs or fat32
[11:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell frank about ntfs
[11:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pupil about repos
[11:18] <frank23> Kaparen: I didn't help much...
[11:18] <nalioth> !botsnack
[11:18] <ubotu> :)
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> ubotu: tell the world of the greatness of linux
[11:18] <grndslm> hahah
[11:18] <Kaparen> hehe but you tried
[11:18] <Kaparen> good night all
 No, dr_willis, I won't. (target invalid?)
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> :(
[11:18] <pupil> frank23, the link is not working,.
[11:18] <pupil> try it for yourself
[11:19] <pupil> ubotu, tell nlioth about repos
[11:19] <frank23> pupil: what link?
[11:19] <grndslm> hey guys...i just tried to change somebody's username/home dir to another name....but now when i restart it, no username & pass will let me login...what do i do?
[11:19] <pupil> all of them
[11:19] <pupil> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:19] <Dreamglider> can i get skype for ubuntu ?
[11:19] <frank23> pupil: that one works
[11:19] <pupil> no it doesn
[11:19] <pupil> doesn't
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> works for me
[11:19] <pupil> It does not open for me
[11:20] <frank>  echo -e "\ndeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> and thats our problem? :P
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> try reloading the page.. try a different browser
[11:20] <frank23> pupil: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto  this one?
[11:20] <frank> sudo echo -e "\ndeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:20] <zblach> hi. I can't seem to change the permissions of my fat32 parts. how can I?
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> you got 2 //'s in there.. but it works..
[11:20] <zblach> <<breezy
[11:21] <frank23> Dr_Willis: the 2 // are there in Konqueror
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> zblach,  when youmount them - youmust use the 'umask' option normally to set the permissions the whole mount point will have
[11:21] <crimsun> zblach: did you pass umask=022 to mount?
[11:21] <pupil> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[11:21] <zblach> crimsun, i need full access. umask=000?
[11:21] <grndslm> sorry, but can somebody help me???  i just tried to change somebody's username/home dir to another name....but now when i get to gdm, no username & pass will let me login...what do i do?
[11:21] <crimsun> zblach: full access for your user is granted with 022
[11:22] <frank23> pupil: what did you try to do?
[11:22] <pupil> I only have one browser,. which browser woul d you suggest
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> I normally use firefox.. and some times Opera
[11:23] <frank> text browser: w3m     or GUI: firefox
[11:23] <pupil> frank23, I tried to open the url that aws given to me by ubuto
[11:23] <poningru> pupil: firefox is the best imho
[11:23] <[LethAL] > I'd suggest Firefox for Gnome :-)
[11:23] <pupil> but it won't open
[11:23] <pupil> I am using mozilla
[11:23] <[LethAL] > pupil, Righ-click the url
[11:23] <[LethAL] > Right*
[11:23] <pupil> [LethAL] , I did
[11:23] <frank> anyone here use the mtr tracerouting tool?
[11:23] <[LethAL] > Hmm
[11:23] <[LethAL] > Nope
[11:23] <zblach> crimsun, did that, and the octal permissions are still rwxrxrx
[11:23] <frank23> pupil: start from here, maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[11:24] <Dreamglider> once i have downloaded skype.deb how do i install/compile it ?
[11:24] <frank> pupil may not be able to get to the site because it realizes on ssl
[11:24] <crimsun> zblach: that's not enougH?
[11:24] <grndslm> can somebody help me with setting user/group permissions??
[11:24] <guidan> frank23: wine it allow  u to run win32 program right?
[11:24] <zblach> crimsun, no. i'm getting write errors _all_the_time
[11:24] <Zukero> how can I install dhcpcd on ubuntu on a computer without current connection, aka with another connected comp and usb key
[11:24] <frank23> Dreamglider: sudo dpgk -i skypefilename.deb
[11:24] <frank> grndslm: for linux?
[11:24] <zblach> like 'permission denied' errors
[11:24] <grndslm> frank, yup
[11:25] <pupil> I have opened wiki.ubuntu.com site beforfe, but for some reason,. I can't get to it now
[11:25] <frank23> Dreamglider: sudo dpkg -i skypefilename.deb sorry
[11:25] <grndslm> frank, i just tried to change somebody's username/home dir to another name....but now when i get to gdm, no username & pass will let me login...what do i do?
[11:25] <Zukero> format ?
[11:25] <_jason> hi is there an alternative to the evolution calendar that will integrate well like evolution does on the gnome panel?
[11:25] <frank> switch to a virtual console (Ctrl-Alt-F1)
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> boot to single user mode and set their password correctly.. perhaps.
[11:26] <frank> login in as root
[11:26] <Zukero> _jason : any of them
[11:26] <zeus1_> daveo: i am using hoary 5.04
[11:26] <grndslm> frank, i'm using a livecd as i can't log into anything directly from the harddrive
[11:26] <[A] ndy80> I have a problem with a fresh install of ubuntu, during boot I get the system frozen when it starts the hotplug subsystem... how can I fix it?
[11:26] <[A] ndy80> (ubuntu 5.10)
[11:26] <Zukero> you just have to add your launcher to gnome-panel launching your evolution alternative
[11:27] <_jason> Zukero:  ok, can you recommend an alternative for me to try?  I want something lightweight
[11:27] <mustard> ubotu: tell Mustard about repositories
[11:27] <Zukero> [A] ndy80 : it's the same for me, hotplug subsystem is long
[11:27] <[A] ndy80> Zukero: long?
[11:27] <frank> grndslm: so you changed the home directory on the harddrive, but you cant get to any console?
[11:27] <Zukero> [A] ndy80 : yeah
[11:28] <zblach> any fool-proof alternatives to getting full read/write access to Fat32 drives?
[11:28] <Zukero> [A] ndy80 : lilke 45 sec
[11:28] <crimsun> zblach: use uid=1000 instead of umask=022
[11:28] <[A] ndy80> Zukero: you mean that it's not frozen, but it takes so long to process it?
[11:28] <_jason> Zukero:  I meant the mini calendar opens up when I click the date on the panel... can I change that to use something other than evolution?
[11:28] <[A] ndy80> Zukero: no no... here more than that time...
[11:28] <frank> zukero: i was wondering about that too
[11:28] <Zukero> k
[11:29] <Zukero> how long ?
[11:29] <grndslm> user "gloria" was the user in the sudoers file and i changed the name (including home directory, /home/gloria) to "skipper"....now i can't get passed the login screen, all invalid user/pass....i now have live cd and have mounted the root and home directories....
[11:29] <Zukero> _jason : i don't use evolution so I can't help you
[11:29] <ninjafish> hi, is there an applet that can do the 'view as slideshow' thing that XP can do with a folder full of .gif files
[11:29] <simeandrews> How can I enable transparency for gdesklets in Breezy Badger? Mine looks like this: http://205.251.3.104/Screenshot.png
[11:29] <_jason> Zukero:  what do you use?
[11:29] <zblach> crimsun, all i have to do to refresh is sudo umount -a and then sudo mount -a?
[11:30] <frank> grndslm: changed /home/gloria to /skipper or /home/skipper ?
[11:30] <crimsun> zblach: just umount it then remount it
[11:30] <Zukero> _jason :  meant i NEVER used evolution, so i don't know what it's like
[11:30] <Dreamglider> frank, it does not work i get this error ->http://pastebin.com/385542
[11:30] <pluffsy> hello
[11:30] <pupil> can you guys point me to a howto for mounting my fat32 partitions
[11:30] <zblach> crimsun, still have the same permissions
[11:30] <grndslm> frank,it's /home/skipper
[11:30] <pupil> I know to edit fstab,.
[11:30] <zblach> pupil, hang round. crimsun and I are discussing it
[11:30] <cevizoglu> can someone point me again to the url for recovering grub after windows install?
[11:30] <_jason> Zukero:  I understand, thanks
[11:30] <Zukero> np
[11:30] <stimpie> pubuntu, man mount
[11:30] <pupil> but I have a few partitions,. and I don't want to mess up
[11:30] <[LethAL] > !tell cevizoglu about grub
[11:30] <[LethAL] > There
[11:30] <tristanmike> pupil, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[11:30] <stimpie> pupil, man mount
[11:31] <pluffsy> sorry if this is a stupid question; do you know if there are any more good looking versions of emacs? the X11 or whatever it is gui looks so ugly to me. something gtk-ish would be nice for example.
[11:31] <LasseL> !grub
[11:31] <ubotu> somebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:31] <[LethAL] > pluffsy, you mean gtk2
[11:31] <[LethAL] > ;)
[11:31] <cevizoglu> [LethAL] : thx  :)
[11:31] <carthik> grndslm, edit the /etc/shadow file to cahnge username... then rename home directory...
[11:31] <pluffsy> [LethAL] : erm I'm not sure what the difference is. but hey sure :)
[11:31] <carthik> grndslm, undo the changes and then work it this way...
[11:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pupil about mountwindows
[11:32] <pupil> I don't know why,. but none of these windows are opening up,.
[11:32] <[LethAL] > pluffsy, xemacs is gtk1 iirc ;-)
[11:32] <pupil> I can't get any of the browsers to work,.
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> gee do they work for ANY web site?
[11:32] <crimsun> zblach: you should be the owner.
[11:32] <pupil> Dr_Willis, no webistes will come up
[11:32] <pupil> I have no idea what the problem is
[11:33] <pluffsy> [LethAL] : Ahhh :) well gtk2 in that case :)
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> http://72.14.203.104
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> see if that works
[11:33] <pupil> nope
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> this is on the same machine you are ircing from?
[11:34] <pupil> maybe I should reload the window manager
[11:34] <pupil> yes
[11:34] <creatix> re!
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> or some how your dns servers got changed
[11:34] <pupil> Dr_Willis,  I am ircing from the same machine,. but browser will not work
[11:34] <creatix> gibt es denn kein grafisches tool (mit gui) das mir den traffic anzeigt?
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> try a simple ping test
[11:34] <[LethAL] > !de
[11:34] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> ping www.google.com
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> and ping 72.14.203.104
[11:35] <LasseL> creatix, #ubuntu-de
[11:35] <shinu> anyone using an ipod with a laptop?
[11:35] <pupil> ping no problem
[11:35] <creatix> oh, so sorry ;)
[11:35] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis, for a bit of a mind bender, I can't ping, I later found out that my isp blocks all pings, save one, their server.
[11:35] <simeandrews> anyone?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> tristanmike,  lol...
[11:36] <grndslm> carthik, what am i supposed to edit in the shadow file?
[11:36] <Dark-Druid> shinu, i am...
[11:36] <tristanmike> I spent _months_ trying to figure out why I couldn't ping
[11:36] <pupil> Dr_Willis, My pings were successful
[11:36] <shinu> Dark-Druid: any problems?... my laptop seems to suck power out of the ipod battery...
[11:36] <daved> which package contains mkinitrd ?
[11:36] <daved> what do i need to install to get it?
[11:36] <daved> and how can i find this out @ the command line in the future?
[11:36] <shinu> Dark-Druid: whereas when i plugged into a friends desktop (just a while ago) it seems alright
[11:37] <Dark-Druid> shinu, strange mine dosen't ... it works pretty normal...
[11:37] <kbrooks> Question:
[11:37] <pupil> Dr_Willis, I figured out the problem
[11:37] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[11:37] <shinu> Dark-Druid: meh... seems like my laptop is doing something stupid again then... :/
[11:37] <tuxedo_kamen> listen, I am in need for help, can anyone please help me?
[11:37] <pupil> on one of my virutal desktops,. It was trying to do something,.
[11:38] <pupil> ok
[11:38] <tristanmike> tuxedo_kamen, just ask, and someone most likely will if they can
[11:38] <pupil> so what were those websites you wanted me to go to?
[11:38] <grndslm> carthik, you still around?
[11:38] <simeandrews> new question: how can I enable apm in thekernel
[11:38] <tuxedo_kamen> I am a newbie, and I need to install javadoc, plus I am having some problems with javac, can anyone please help me with both tasks?
[11:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tuxedo_kamen about javadeb
[11:38] <maud> hi! I'm installing Breezy right now... I'm asked to choose a kernel from 3 ones... which may I choose?
[11:39] <grndslm> maud, the first one
[11:39] <kbrooks> maud: latest
[11:39] <maud> why?
[11:39] <maud> ok
[11:39] <grayman> what are the selections?
[11:39] <maud> linux-386
[11:39] <maud> linux-image-386
[11:39] <maud> linux-image-2.6.
[11:39] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, like I said, I am a newbie, I don't even know which one of the packages I should install!
[11:39] <grayman> erm
[11:39] <grayman> get the first
[11:39] <maud> 12-9-386
[11:39] <grayman> looks generic
[11:40] <grayman> ah
[11:40] <grayman> get the last
[11:40] <maud> this is the one I used to have on hoary and warty I guess
[11:40] <tuxedo_kamen> grayman, was that for me?
[11:40] <mlucena> Breezy on amd64, can't activate DMA on hd:  sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda  =>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[11:40] <mlucena> Someone has the same problem
[11:40] <mirak> does ubuntu use gcc3.4 ou gcc4 ?
[11:41] <grayman> tuxedo_kamen, no it was to maud. what was your question?
[11:41] <[LethAL] > mirak, hoary uses 3.4 and breezy uses 4 iirc
[11:41] <grndslm> can somebody help me???  i changed user "gloria", whcih was the user in the sudoers file, and i changed the name (including home directory, /home/gloria) to "skipper" (and /home/skipper)....now i can't get passed the login screen, all invalid user/pass....i now have live cd and have mounted the root and home directories...so, wudoo i do?
[11:41] <mirak> ok
[11:41] <mirak> grndslm: you must boot with the option -single
[11:42] <mirak> grndslm: single for the kernel, I guess recovery mode
[11:42] <grndslm> how do i pass on boot parameters?
[11:42] <rukuartic> Anyone have any tips for uninstalling wine? I was lazy and installed the redhat version instead.
[11:42] <grndslm> so, i just choose recovery mode in grub?
[11:42] <mirak> grndslm: you use grub ?
[11:42] <tuxedo_kamen> ok, i'll explain it... I need to install javadoc, and my javac isn't working very good (when I compile it at home, I get errors that I don't get in my university's computer!), what should I do about those 2 things?
[11:42] <maud> Dam it : 'impossible to install initrd-tools' error
[11:42] <mirak> grndslm: yes
[11:42] <grndslm> and then??
[11:42] <mirak> grndslm: it will allow you to be root
[11:42] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: ubotu sent you a msg, you should read it
[11:43] <grndslm> mirak, so what would i change??
[11:43] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, what version of java are you using at home and what version does the university use?
[11:43] <mirak> grndslm: then you can fix what's wrong
[11:43] <tuxedo_kamen> I have no idea about both, sorry
[11:43] <grndslm> mirak, that's my biggest problem
[11:43] <mark_> Hey guys - I tried the other day to add universe and multiverse to my Synaptic and now I get errors whenever I open it. Could someone help me out if I send and example of one of the erros?
[11:43] <guidan> hi guys how would i install nerolinux?
[11:43] <tuxedo_kamen> and I got that message from the bot, but I don't know what version of those 2 I should install!
[11:43] <[LethAL] > guidan, there are better tools available for you
[11:43] <mirak> grndslm: in /etc/passwd I think it's here you can change the home directory location for a user. you can't miss it
[11:44] <guidan> really
[11:44] <guidan> can u name some?
[11:44] <grndslm> i'll try it
[11:44] <rob_p> grndslm:  Make sure the user in /etc/shadow is changed to the same user listed in /etc/passwd.  Also, make sure that the user's home directory is accessible and owned by that user.  That should get you back in.
[11:44] <[LethAL] > guidan, graveman, serpentine, nautilus
[11:44] <zblach> hi
[11:44] <tuxedo_kamen> Dark-Druid, can I PM you?
[11:44] <g14> Reduce your gnome startup time to 3 seconds: http://nat.org/2005/october/#Keep-It-Simple-Stupid
[11:44] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: are you using breezy or hoary?
[11:44] <zblach> still having trouble setting permissions on a fat32 drive. nothing seems to be working
[11:44] <mirak> grndslm: but what you did is a bit dirty
[11:44] <guidan> [LethAL] : can i use apt-get for those?
[11:45] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, yeah
[11:45] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, how can I know the difference? I just know I am on ubuntu...
[11:45] <mirak> grndslm: it would have been cleaner to just create a new user
[11:45] <jamie_1> how do I add an IRC account on gaim and then connect to the channels?
[11:45] <mark_> Can I upgrade to Breezy without uninstalling Horay?
[11:45] <jamie_1> forget the connect part
[11:45] <[LethAL] > guidan, yes, or synaptic. For synaptic search for cd burn
[11:45] <[LethAL] > !tell mark_ about upgrade2breezy
[11:45] <g14> mark_: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:45] <g14> mark_: change hoary to breezy
[11:46] <shinu> ubuntu does support usb2 by default right?
[11:46] <grndslm> mirak, i created a new user and then used usermod to change home directories and everything
[11:46] <[LethAL] > shinu, does for me
[11:46] <g14> mark_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:46] <tristanmike> tuxedo_kamen, System-->About Ubuntu
[11:46] <grndslm> how should i have done it differently?
[11:46] <[LethAL] > shinu, so it should for you :)
[11:46] <mark_> g14 thanks is that all?
[11:46] <shinu> [LethAL] : i see... just random question :P
[11:46] <g14> mark_: yes
[11:46] <[LethAL] > ;)
[11:46] <mark_> g14 thanks again
[11:46] <shinu> [LethAL] : trying to troubleshoot my problem x)
[11:46] <[LethAL] > shinu, problem?
[11:47] <shinu> [LethAL] : ipod problem... :P
[11:47] <tuxedo_kamen> tristanmike, I only have applications -> about ubuntu, and it seems to take me to a website
[11:47] <canex> hi
[11:47] <[LethAL] > shinu, ah... not my field :D
[11:47] <jamie_1> how do I add an IRC account on gaim and then connect to the channels? anyone?
[11:47] <canex> i have a problem
[11:48] <rukuartic> jamie_1: Wrong channel...
[11:48] <tristanmike> tuxedo_kamen, does it say Breezy?
[11:48] <grayman> tuxedo_kamen, yeah. and whats said tehre?
[11:48] <canex> i can't connect to the net with ubuntu........
[11:48] <jamie_1> sorry
[11:48] <poningru> rukuartic: why is that wrong channel?
[11:48] <pupil> is there any disadvantage to upgrading with the universe repositories?
[11:48] <tuxedo_kamen> it takes me here -> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/
[11:48] <shinu> [LethAL] : noone's field it seems... i got a weird problem :P
[11:48] <[LethAL] > jamie_1, gaim isn't a good irc client...
[11:48] <mirak> grndslm: I would have created a new user and just copied the settings.
[11:48] <poningru> rukuartic: we support those software
[11:48] <poningru> in our os
[11:48] <mirak> grndslm: that's not an exact science :)
[11:49] <pupil> how do I get msn on ubuntu?
[11:49] <poningru> pupil: gaim
[11:49] <grayman> pupil, gaim
[11:49] <poningru> !gaim
[11:49] <kevogod> pupil, MSN messenger services?
[11:49] <ubotu> gaim is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[11:49] <g14> pupil: gaim does it fine
[11:49] <g14> pupil: aMsn looks like msn messanger though
[11:49] <pupil> can I apt-get install gaim?
[11:49] <grndslm> mirak, but i did that...
[11:49] <pupil> or use synaptic
[11:49] <grayman> pupil, should be by default
[11:49] <[LethAL] > pupil, It's allready installed...
[11:49] <poningru> rukuartic: hehe thats ok
[11:49] <nalioth> pupil: you should have it already
[11:49] <tristanmike> tuxedo_kamen, you don't have systems-->About Ubuntu, what about help?
[11:50] <pupil> ahh yes,. I have it
[11:50] <grndslm> mirak,  crazeej:x:1000:1000:Jeremie,,,:/home/crazeej:/bin/bash
[11:50] <tuxedo_kamen> hum, I have applications -> help, but it doesn't help me either
[11:50] <poningru> jamie_1: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q55
[11:50] <grndslm> the group is 1000...shouldn't that work??
[11:51] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: open a terminal and type "lsb_release -a"
[11:51] <grayman> tuxedo_kamen, ok do that. launch synaptic and go to settings -> repositories and see if you have there breezy mentiioned
[11:51] <poningru> tuxedo_kamen: what are you trying to figure out?
[11:51] <mirak> grndslm: if it works it's good
[11:51] <tristanmike> poningru, he/she doesn't know what version he/she is running
[11:51] <poningru> ah ic
[11:51] <grndslm> mirak, but it doesn't...it just looks configured properly
[11:51] <smaugslayer> tristanmike: what info does about ubuntu give u?  when i try it i get an error => The Uniform Resource Identifier ghelp:about-ubuntu is invalid or does not point to an actual file.
[11:51] <grndslm> mirak, i'm using the livecd to view the files and they look ok....
[11:51] <dodgyville> Hi. I went apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, but it has choked on the first package "cannot access archive libc6-dev_2.3.5-1ubuntu11_powerpc.deb"
[11:52] <poningru> tuxedo_kamen: yeah run what nalioth told you in a terminal
[11:52] <tuxedo_kamen> yeah, I have something about warty warthog on one of the urls
[11:52] <mirak> grndslm: you can chroot to your  installed system
[11:52] <grayman> heh
[11:52] <tristanmike> smaugslayer, yeah, I did too, but I think it's cause I uninstalled ubuntu-desktop, check that you have it installed
[11:52] <grayman>  warty
[11:52] <tuxedo_kamen> poningru, I need to find my javac version, plus I want to install javadoc
[11:53] <[LethAL] > tristanmike, ubuntu-desktop doesn't provide any functionality
[11:53] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, javac -showversion
[11:53] <grndslm> mirak, dunno how to chroot
[11:53] <Dark-Druid> for javadocs to work as far as i can remeber you need to install ant
[11:53] <[LethAL] > !tell grndslm about chroot
[11:53] <tristanmike> [LethAL] , but I think that it installs other packages that fix this problem, packages that were removed with the firefox fix a couple weeks back
[11:53] <[LethAL] > tristanmike, it installs the whole gnome gui
[11:54] <smaugslayer> nope - i have it installed.  running breezy though, so could be anything
[11:54] <mark_> Does anyone in here use wine? I am new to linux and would like to know if wine is a good solution or if I need to just find similar programs made for linux
[11:54] <mirak> chroot /system
[11:54] <mirak> grndslm: chroot /system
[11:54] <tuxedo_kamen> sorry, clicked in the wrong place! >_<
[11:54] <mirak> grndslm: chroot /systemmountpoint
[11:54] <tristanmike> [LethAL] , I don't know what to say other than, I didn't have the help, I did before, I wondered why, in some searching I found that it was uninstalled, i reinstalled it, it said it wanted to install more packs, i said yes, and it worked
[11:54] <tuxedo_kamen> so, how did I check the javac version?
[11:54] <grayman> mark_, its always better to find similar programs for linux
[11:54] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, javac -showversion
[11:54] <mylastmorning> mark_ I wanna know also. so when you find out would you do me a favor and tell me what you hear for recommendations?
[11:54] <dodgyville> mark_: What program do you want to use?
[11:54] <xlyz> hi. dist-upgrading to breezy. is it dangerous?
[11:55] <rukuartic> Yes!
[11:55] <tuxedo_kamen> Dark-Druid, they say it is an invalid flag!
[11:55] <dodgyville> xlyz: I'm stuck at the moment
[11:55] <grndslm> mirak, so i create a temp user and then chroot /var/tmproot???
[11:55] <kbrooks> xlyz: works for me, may not work for you
[11:55] <mark_> dodgyville, I love itunes and wanted to run it
[11:55] <mylastmorning> dodgyvillie, is wine good for Ragnarok Online?
[11:55] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, try java -showversion
[11:55] <mylastmorning> dodgyville, is wine good for Ragnarok Online?
[11:55] <flora> is it silly to think that we can upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[11:55] <flora> or is it best to just plan for a clean reinstall
[11:56] <mirak> grndslm: no
[11:56] <kbrooks> flora: not silly
[11:56] <mark_> mylastmorning, I will tell you what I hear but other than that it is the blind leading the blind! I am new to linux and I am still getting my feet wet
[11:56] <mylastmorning> flora, wait till the full release is out.
[11:56] <dodgyville> mark_, mylastmorning: In my experience, wine is better at games than at apps. However, the older the game the better it probably runs. DirectX 9 is probably not so good.
[11:56] <xlyz> kbrooks: out of the box or you needed to do some post upgrade work?
[11:56] <mirak> grndslm: you are onnn the livecd. You have your system mounted somewhere
[11:56] <kbrooks> flora: you can upgrade, but wait then
[11:56] <kbrooks> xlyz: out of the box
[11:56] <flora> roger, full release... and upgrading will be an option aye? with *other* distros you can't upgrade
[11:56] <grndslm> mirak, check!
[11:56] <kbrooks> no post upgrade work
[11:56] <mirak> grndslm: chroot makes believe bash that you are on another system than the current one you booted on
[11:56] <nalioth> flora: ubuntu is designed for clean upgrades to the latest release(s)
[11:57] <xlyz> thanks
[11:57] <flora> sweet.
[11:57] <kbrooks> flora: debian has upgrading as a option
[11:57] <guidan> hi, i just downloaded nautilus but i cant find it
[11:57] <dodgyville> xlyz: All I tried to do was change hoary to breezy in sources.list, type apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade but it has caused two major problems
[11:57] <g14> if you install lots of packages from multiverse and universe, dist-upgrading will break things
[11:57] <mylastmorning> dodgyville, have you tried Ragnarok Online with it?
[11:57] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, for javadoc as far as i can remeber you only need to install ant
[11:57] <mark_> dodgyville, thanks but I don't play many games, and the ones I do are also done for linux, like U2K4. I just want simple apps like itunes to run
[11:57] <nalioth> guidan: it should have already been on your system (it is the core of gnome)
[11:57] <tuxedo_kamen> Dark-Druid, ok, my university has version 1-4-1-b21, I have 1.1.x-cvs from kaffe, how can I install theirs? :|
[11:57] <grndslm> mirak, and...??  sorry, i'm just not understanding what's going on
[11:57] <xlyz> dodgyville: what problems?
[11:57] <nalioth> guidan: applications > system tools > file manager
[11:58] <mylastmorning> nalioth, have you ever played Ragnarok Online?
[11:58] <mirak> grndslm: I must go
[11:58] <mirak> grndslm: sorry
[11:58] <dodgyville> mylastmorning, mark_: Both those programs using networking, which is a little bit dodgy in wine. I think there is a linux itunes-style program somewhere.
[11:58] <mark_> dodgyville, could you tell me how I can have ubuntu mount an NTFS partition so I can access the music on it? Also how can I make it mount on boot up
[11:58] <_jason> does anyone know if evolution data server is needed?  It seems to just hog memory since I don't use evolution anyway.  Can I remove it somehow?
[11:58] <funkyHat> mark_,
[11:58] <funkyHat> !ntfs
[11:58] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[11:59] <mylastmorning> !ragnarok
[11:59] <ubotu> mylastmorning: Are you smoking crack?
[11:59] <mylastmorning> !mmorpg
[11:59] <ubotu> mylastmorning: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:59] <mylastmorning> !wine
[11:59] <grayman> heh
[11:59] <Antonio77> hi
[11:59] <guidan> nalioth: whats the full path?
[11:59] <kbrooks> !playwithbot
[11:59] <ubotu> Do not play with me, please. Message me instead.
[11:59] <dodgyville> xlyz: Well, first it wouldn't authenticate my apt-get keys(!) because the clock on the laptop was flat (as I discovered). Now it gets an error trying to process linux_kernels-headers-2.6.11.2-0ubuntu12_powerpc.deb
[11:59] <ompaul> yippee another live CD works
[11:59] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, i'm not sure how you ended up with that java version but to install 1.4 try sudo apt-get install j2sdk1.4