[12:04] rsync rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current/breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso [12:04] (copy and paste the above) [12:04] err, stop [12:05] rsync -a --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current/breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso [12:05] thats the right one [12:06] heheh, you really diserve a huge prize for all your patience, spirit and work!, mon [12:06] if i keep my job after this chaos release, its my biggest price :) === pitux [n=pitux@86-184-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=Elive_us@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [12:21] re [12:21] sorry [12:21] ogra, could you plase re post the rsyn stuff, I had not activated the logs yet :( [12:21] rsync -a --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current/breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso [12:22] in the dir where your iso is === mhz sings Oliver a song and sends positive vibs === HedgeMage [n=me@hoodlug/pdpc.basic.HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage peeks in === mhz realizes that not even a Clown would make oliver run a laugh :) [12:22] :) [12:23] :-D [12:23] :))) [12:23] oh, coolisimo! [12:23] better ? :) [12:23] if you do feel better, yes. [12:30] its ok... could be better... but i have a nice bottle merlot here and relax a bit [12:31] ogra: works [12:31] ah, fine [12:31] logged in ? [12:32] ogra: no, mouse doesn't work [12:32] and I can't press enter [12:32] use tab [12:32] known bug... sorry, my fault... [12:32] ok [12:32] and mouse? [12:33] i have already a new login manager ready but that wasnt accepted this late in the release cycle [12:33] hmm, no mouse at all ? [12:33] ogra: so what can I do to get the new one/ [12:33] ogra: no [12:33] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/ [12:33] and some icons don't work [12:33] read te instructions [12:33] ogra: ok [12:34] what kind of mouse do you use ? [12:34] ogra: ps2 [12:34] hmm... [12:34] 3buttons and scroll standard old mouse [12:34] can you log in on console and run: lsmod|grep psaux ? [12:35] (client) [12:35] and lsmod|grep mousedev [12:35] nothing [12:36] and windows don't come I had to go to tty9 [12:36] 0 [12:36] and the desktop icon doesn't work [12:36] log out [12:36] and the trash icon neither [12:36] and run modprobe psaux on console [12:37] how can I do that without mouse? [12:37] ctrl-alt-backspace [12:37] module psaux not found [12:37] aha [12:37] hmm [12:37] very strange === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-137-149.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [12:38] ouch [12:38] err [12:38] modprobe psmouse indeed [12:39] oh [12:39] sorry... i had wine already :) [12:39] zz [12:39] after that another ctrl-alt-bakspace on the gui to activate it [12:40] my friend said metaframe is the only working terminal server... >D [12:40] pfft [12:40] ltsp is the best :) [12:41] when I have 3 different clients with different vga resolution how can I set that up? [12:41] you dont... [12:41] it happens automatically === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu [12:42] no, screen can't be configured by itself [12:42] thats what we do [12:42] as i explained, /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-setup does that on boot... [12:42] but it does that wrong [12:43] but there is something weird with the psmouse stuff currently [12:43] ah ok [12:43] no there is a kernel message [12:43] about psmouse ? [12:43] yes [12:43] after I have loaded it manually [12:43] what did it say ? [12:44] i'm to tired to start a edubuntu install now to check it, but i'll solve it tomorrow if its a common prob and i can reproduce it [12:44] input lmPS/2 Logitech wheelmouse on isa0060/serial [12:44] thats fine [12:45] ehm and what about trash icon? [12:45] it just tells you what it loaded [12:45] in gnome bar [12:45] panel [12:45] doesnt still work ? not even with the mouse ? [12:45] ogra, my current ISO is edubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso, will that rsyn work anyways [12:45] ? [12:45] hmm... [12:46] rename it to breezy-install-i386.iso [12:46] should work... [12:46] simple [12:46] ok [12:46] ogra: the icons are still a document with a red X [12:46] but from preview it might be more than 50MB... be warned [12:47] lucasvo, are you logged in with the same user on the server in X ? [12:47] ogra: yes [12:47] ah [12:47] logout there and relogin on the client... [12:48] ok [12:48] duh! command not found :) === mhz apt-getting [12:48] gnome-settings-daemon cant handle two logins from different hosts [12:49] nhz! [12:49] he [12:49] kde can? [12:49] no idea [12:49] i guess it does [12:49] KDE does wrid insecure things [12:49] yep [12:49] *weird [12:49] hence my favourite desktops are simple: Fluxbox and Enlightenment [12:50] we had someone who wanted to package e17 for universe... no idea if that happened [12:50] ogra: but my ltsp-client-setup configures my screen wrong! it can run at 1024x786 but it runs at 480x640 [12:50] lucasvo, at least it runs :D [12:50] what kind of graphics card ? [12:50] mhz: yes [12:50] ogra: matrox [12:51] mga driver [12:51] hmm... [12:51] works for me... [12:51] i have a client with mga here [12:51] but at ubuntu normal I have to configure it manually as well [12:51] but it should work! [12:51] did you file a bug ? [12:51] no :( [12:51] else it wont get solved [12:51] should I, where? [12:51] at ubuntu or X [12:51] bugzilla.ubuntu.com [12:52] xserver-xorg [12:52] but its intresting that it works fine for me... [12:52] (with a old G400) === mhz has an average of donwloading of 19kB/s :) yaaaaaawwwwny [12:53] yup rsync speeds up a lot [12:53] I have mga g200 :D [12:53] should be the same ... [12:53] runs at 720x400 but could run at 1024x768 [12:54] oh I have creating accounts everywhere [12:54] mine runs at 1280x1024 [12:54] out of the box [12:54] strange [12:55] I have a sdm-m51 15" sony lcd flatscreen [12:55] probably a problem with your monitor... if it reports the size wrong it might fail [12:55] could be [12:55] but why should it? [12:55] there is a wiki page about debugging X probs... [12:56] ogra: not today anymore [12:57] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingXAutoconfiguration [12:57] ;) [12:57] I will submit it and then go to bed when I have time I'll look at it tomorrow [12:57] for tomorrow [12:57] note that we'll release on 13th, every minute counts [12:57] ogra: ok [12:57] I wil do try to do it now === lucasvo donates his sleep to ubuntu [12:58] root@elive[/home/Users/Rojo/mhz/MhzDownloads/RsYnc] $ rsync -a --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current/breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso [12:58] @ERROR: Unknown module 'edubuntu' [12:58] rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1171 === Gadi [n=romm@h-66-166-99-234.nycmny83.covad.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:59] there is a cdimage misisng in the path [12:59] meh [01:00] do you know why ubuntu is always switching from nonbootsplash to bootsplash during booting? [01:01] is it ? [01:01] not here === mhz [n=Elive_us@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [01:01] argh! sorry again [01:01] you missed one cdimage in the path [01:01] 128 mb of ram is too little nowdays [01:01] ? [01:02] rsync -a --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/edubuntu/daily/current/breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso [01:02] before /edubuntu/ [01:02] or did i gie it wrong ? then i'm really sorry [01:02] *give [01:03] don't worry [01:03] I copied pasted [01:03] meh [01:03] sorry [01:03] so, yes YOU did wrong! :D [01:03] the god thing is we can work it out === mhz staying positive [01:03] copy paste the above, it works... [01:03] just doing the same here [01:04] ogra: hm ctrl alt F1 doesn't work [01:04] it seems to be wotking [01:04] yup [01:04] ubuntu should release pocketubuntu (gpe.handhelds.org [01:04] lucasvo, on the client ? [01:04] ) [01:05] ogra: yes but with real ubuntu on hd [01:05] there is a buntu plan ... [01:05] ogra: public? [01:05] no [01:05] too bad [01:05] only planned yet === lucasvo is compiling his kernel for his pocketpc atm [01:06] i was thinking about working on it... but then edubuntu became my fulltime project [01:06] that rocks! I always wanted a pocketpc with ubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #edubuntu [] [01:06] ogra: are you paid for working on ubuntu? or do you do it in your free time? [01:06] i#m paied [01:07] ubuntu must do it... [01:07] :D [01:07] lucasvo, he's paid and we does it in his free time as well [01:07] haha [01:07] yeah [01:07] depends where you draw the line [01:07] ogra: are you from germany? [01:07] or in other words... he gets paid for his free time [01:08] lol [01:08] :D [01:08] i'd say i do it all in my free time and get some money ... === lucasvo still goes to school [01:08] yes, i'm from germany [01:08] ogra, what happens with rsync if i suffer a power cut [01:08] ? [01:08] lucasvo, we all do [01:08] you can start where you stopped [01:08] mhz: school or what? [01:08] school [01:08] it picks up where it stopped [01:09] ah, but ogra as well? [01:09] oh, nice [01:09] nope [01:09] they wont take me with 35 ;) [01:09] lucasvo, it depends of what you define by school. [01:09] mhz: yes [01:09] I am married have kids and all, but I am always learning and sharing === lucasvo is done with normal school but will take 3 years more... [01:10] mhz: learning and sharing is much more ehm efficient than being taught in school [01:10] hehehe [01:10] really [01:10] we'll start the GNU school [01:11] where we all can submit changes :D [01:11] I mean do I learn that much in informatics ??? no not really [01:11] what should I do with my ctrl+alt+f1 ? [01:12] ogra, will at some time see any & progress somewhere? [01:12] ogra, I mean in rsync [01:12] any % [01:12] not & [01:12] yes, you should === Gadi [n=romm@h-66-166-99-234.nycmny83.covad.net] has left #edubuntu [] [01:12] root@elive[/home/Users/Rojo/mhz/MhzDownloads/RsYnc] $ rsync -v -a --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/edubuntu/daily/current/breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso [01:12] receiving file list ... [01:12] 1 file to consider [01:13] thats all the output [01:13] W: Failure trying to run: chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 mount -t proc proc /proc [01:13] now it cmputes the differences ... then you see the progress... patiency... [01:13] ohh [01:14] W: Failure trying to run: chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 mount -t proc proc /proc [01:14] what are you trying ? === mhz goes pickup his daughter from school [01:14] sudo ltsp-build-client [01:14] lucasvo, see? we all go to school [01:14] :D === mhz BBL [01:15] ohh [01:15] breezy-install-i386.iso [01:15] 681072 0% 21.45kB/s 8:53:26 [01:15] hehehehe [01:15] yeah [01:15] it'll take as much as if I downloaded a whole iso :) [01:15] lucasvo, again ? [01:16] it wil go down a bit === mhz BBL [01:16] ogra: what should I do with my ctrl+alt+f1 [01:16] ctrl+alt+del works [01:17] ctrl+alt+f1 should too [01:17] ogra: but doesn't [01:17] something is really wrong with your setup [01:17] ogra: why? [01:17] it works [01:17] except ctrl+alt+f1 [01:17] it doesnt ... [01:18] psmouse wasnt loaded and ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt work [01:18] it is strange [01:18] alt+f2 works [01:18] both should work... [01:18] oh [01:18] ctrl+alt+del works [01:19] what can be wrong? [01:19] no idea... as i said, i'll check tomorrow... i have no decent iso here, just syncing [01:20] aha [01:21] ogra: isn't the notification about updates useless when it doesn't updates package lists anyway? [01:22] why shuldnt it update package lists ? [01:22] note that you log in on the normal server desktop [01:22] ogra: what should I note? [01:23] that you see the notification from the server desktop :) [01:26] ogra: is there any more infomation about the "miu" ubuntu in the internet or is it kept secret? on what will it be based on? [01:26] look in the wiki, there was a spec we worked out at the last conference... [01:29] what do I have to look for? [01:31] buntu ? [01:31] dunno... [01:31] its on the BreezBOFs page probably [01:31] ah [01:32] I found it [01:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/%c2%b5buntu [01:32] oh, too late [01:32] thanks magnon [01:33] :) [01:34] goodnight [01:34] I will postpone my meeting with MR. X-autoconfiguration to tomorrow [01:39] night [02:00] re === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@67.15.185.40] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=Elive_us@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [02:14] Monsoir Oliver [02:14] monsieur mhz ? [02:15] either I have to much bad luck or you are too wrong.. or a combination of both :) [02:15] 8515408 1% 18.66kB/s 10:06:10 [02:15] it was 10% before the x server crash [02:15] now it's only 1% [02:16] it computes the sizes again... wait a while... it should pick up again [02:16] are you totaly sure it is like wget -c, allowing you to stasrt form where you were at? [02:16] pretty sure... [02:16] stasrt = start [02:17] ok, I still believe you, moon [02:17] moon = mon [02:18] oh, damned, i think you would have needed --partial.... [02:18] ?????// [02:18] after the crash [02:18] ? [02:19] to make sure it uses the partial transferred bits... [02:19] rsync -v -a --progress --partial ... ? [02:19] yes, but if it started again that wont work... [02:20] there are hundrets of options... see man rsync [02:22] oh, -z might be good for you too [02:25] so, what you say is: everytime X crashes, I should start with --partial and -z ? [02:25] heh, if X crashes often you probably should rsync on console ;) [02:26] hm, I thought so [02:26] but the Eterm looks sooooooo cooool [02:26] --partial keeps partial synced data around and -z compresses (much better than othe compressions) [02:27] the manpage has whole paragraphs for both [02:28] yes, I was reading when it crashes the last 2 times, so I quit reading :) === macgyver2 is now known as mac2|asleep === mhz preparing dinner === mhz is now known as mhz_at_kitchen [03:05] F.Y.I http://www.linuxandmain.com/tech/xibrettotips.html === Orbman_ [n=orbman@85-210-153-26.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #edubuntu === Orbman [n=orbman@85-210-176-148.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_at_kitchen is now known as mhz [04:38] re [04:52] hey [05:07] hey === MacTrain [i=MacTrain@12-207-139-65.client.mchsi.com] has joined #edubuntu [05:13] it's still Dapper Drake, right? Someone wrote Dapper Duck on the wiki :) [05:14] no idea === KingBahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-122-217.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === Zaheer [n=zahedoll@wbs-146-133-74.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [08:29] morning all [08:36] JaneW: could you please follow up on my domain name request? [08:36] JaneW: i'll call you... === clueuser [n=cluebox@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === spacey`office [n=cluebox@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === spacey`office is now known as spacey === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu [09:07] has anyone here installed the nvidia drivers on gnu/linux box sucessfully? [09:08] Zaheer, in Ubuntu: yes ofcourse [09:08] Zaheer, its really easy, only two commands [09:08] no internet :) [09:09] yes of course [09:09] sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx =) [09:09] got edubuntu dvd [09:12] search for nvidia-glx [09:13] and what about the .run file that nvidia provides for linux distro's will that not help? [09:14] also if i install the nvidia-glx pckg will i still need to mod the Xfree/X11 conf? [09:16] sure both will work [09:16] its easier to get the deb though [09:16] ./nvidia-bla.run [09:16] then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and just choose 'nvidia' instead of 'nv' [09:16] Zaheer, you should use the deb [09:16] really [09:16] spacey, agreed [09:16] sudo nvidia-glx-enable [09:16] Zaheer, nvidia-glix is officially supported [09:17] or something like that [09:17] cool. [09:17] Zaheer, if you use the deb :p [09:17] ie not the .run pckg [09:18] cause thats the one im trying to use now and its such a pain to get working.. [09:20] highvoltage: ping [09:21] highvoltage: was that your call I missed? worked till after 1am last night and then dreamed about wiki edits the whole night, so decided to go for a run this am. [09:22] highvoltage: got your msg, will follow-up for you. [09:25] hi JaneW [09:25] are you really sending me 200 CDs? [09:25] hehe [09:25] an autographed cd would be fine really [09:26] *grin* [09:33] JaneW, ping [09:37] jsgotangco: hi [09:37] err [09:38] i forgot what to ask [09:38] jsgotangco: if you send a good proposal, then sure [09:38] (once we have a working edubuntu to manufacture from) [09:38] nahh, a JaneW-autographed cd would do for me :) [09:38] heh === JaneW will give ogra first signing rights [09:38] since it's his artwork afterall [09:39] the schooltool people wanted their description changed [09:39] heh [09:39] i gave it [09:39] ta [09:39] hmm === jsgotangco can't remember what to ask [09:40] i remember now [09:40] i'll pm you [09:43] are there screens of the cd cover? [10:02] JaneW, do you have plan B in case you don't get the stock photos? [10:02] we got a pdf of them yeserday [10:03] goodie [10:03] i guess its copyrighted stuff so i won't ask [10:09] JaneW, working hard on the specs i see =) [10:09] nod [10:10] jsgotangco: enjoying all the spam? [10:10] jsgotangco: no it's not copyrighted I don;t think [10:10] sent it to mhz already [10:10] should I send to you too? [10:10] cand you send it to me too? [10:10] sure [10:10] i can pig out on it [10:10] ok [10:10] heh [10:11] is it the stock or the actual breezy cover? [10:11] breezy cover [10:11] can i check it out too please :} [10:11] Zaheer, :P [10:12] prolly after oct. 13 [10:12] pretty please.. [10:12] heh [10:12]