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volvoguyhi all. i'm testing lightweight window managers and a console irc client for a server-ish machine i'm putting together. it's a little weird so i probably won't last long. :)12:28
klepashehe12:29
klepasgood luck :)12:29
volvoguyi think blackbox is going to win.12:29
klepasyea12:29
klepasblackbox or flux are nice12:29
volvoguyhaven't tried flux yet - on breezy they have conflicting packages. i'll get to it eventually though. 12:30
volvoguyso what'd you all think of jdub's last email? 12:30
klepas*looks*12:30
klepasoh12:31
klepasthe october calender pic12:31
klepasmhh12:31
volvoguyin the one right before that i got the impression that they were going to use their own artwork. then he sends out another one a few days after our deadline asking if we have any calendar artwork ready for october. doh!12:31
klepasnot too involved in the calendar stuff12:32
klepasnot even sure what theme we are using for the calendar pics12:32
volvoguyyou guys didn't make any decisions without me? i've been kinda dead the last week or so. 12:32
klepasno12:32
klepasnone12:32
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volvoguyk. 12:32
klepasschool resumes on monday :(12:33
klepasmeans next to no time for my net activities12:33
volvoguywell, kamstrup and i put a ton of time into voting on cool backgrounds, so i sent our favorites list to jeff - but that's about all we had considering we thought we were off the hook with breezy. 12:34
klepasyea12:34
klepasyou don't by any chances have a link to the logs?12:34
klepashandy anywhere there...?12:35
volvoguywhat i'm thinkin', and maybe ogra can help us with this eventually, is to put together an "ubuntu-artwork-extras" package for universe until we have a nifty app for ubuntu that pulls stuff off art.ubuntu.com.12:35
volvoguyummm..... not handy. lets see.... what window manager am i using? 12:36
volvoguyi don't know how to do multi window chats in this client. if you go into #ubuntu, you should see the link to their logs. ours are in the same general location - just named ubuntu-art or something. 12:38
volvoguywait..... i might have it....12:38
volvoguyhere's where ALL the logs are http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/12:39
klepascheers12:39
volvoguywe're ubuntu-artwork12:39
volvoguy(obviously) :)12:39
klepas:)12:40
klepasi really like the idea about packaging our own little thing in the universe repos.12:40
klepas:)12:40
klepasBut I also have another issue i want to raise12:40
volvoguywhat's that? 12:40
klepasfor now, just with one person12:41
klepasI didn't like the art-web system12:41
klepaslacks a lot of functionality12:41
klepasI am exploring installing the CMS that GNOME-Look uses12:41
klepasand installing that on my server12:41
klepasmake it fully functionall12:42
klepasadd a few items already found in AUC12:42
klepasand then open the ports12:42
klepasand show this to the art team12:42
klepasgive the current admins of AUC admin access 12:42
volvoguyyeah. i kinda know what you mean. we were in a rush to get a site up, and theirs looked cool - unfortunately we didn't really know how it worked behind the scenes. 12:42
klepasand see what people think about perhaps putting this sort of CMS on AUC12:43
klepaswell then we should really change soon12:43
klepasbecause the more we use the art-web system the more dependant we will make ourselves12:43
klepasand the more work a change will be12:43
volvoguyi don't know if we'd be able to get canonical to switch at this point or not. one of the big deals with that AGO code is that it's backend easily ties in with the gnome-art app (and presumably other apps, although gnome-art cvs versions already can access our site). 12:44
klepasyes12:45
klepasi know that KDE has made an app that interacts with KDE-look12:46
klepasnamely their wallpapers12:46
klepasi can click on my desktop, go tot configure and click "get more wallpapers"12:46
klepasvery handy12:46
volvoguygnome-look.org is almost overkill, but i agree that ubuntu's popularity may be more than our current system can handle. it requires lots of adimin time.12:46
klepasI am sure this would be easily changed to include more things12:46
klepasthat is what annoys me the most12:47
klepasand the GNOME-look type CMS is so much more powerful12:47
volvoguyyeah. that's what gnome-art does - with wallpaper, themes, icons - you can preview, download and install right from the app. 12:47
klepasyea, i've seen that12:48
klepasit's alright12:48
klepaswe could easily adapt some of the code which KDE uses to interact with KDE-look12:48
klepasfor AUC, if we used the same CMS12:48
volvoguywell, except most of ubuntu doesn't use kde. ;)12:49
volvoguybut the backend stuff, yes. :)12:49
klepasadapt12:49
klepasGPL code12:49
volvoguyi'm just giving you a hard time. :)12:49
klepaswouln't be to hard to adapt and get working in a GTK environment12:49
klepas:)12:49
volvoguyi'm tired and sore and slap happy. :-P12:50
klepasanyway....12:50
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klepasbecause in my opinion it comes down to: The art team are an art team, not a coding team, or a team that wants to spend forever administrating a site. We need something easy, powerful and userfriendly12:50
volvoguyyeah, i feel your pain about the website. we should at least bring the issue up when we have our first post-breezy meeting. 12:50
klepasyea12:50
volvoguyright. i agree. 12:51
klepas:)12:51
volvoguyi spent so much time doing admin stuff as "team coordinator" that i had to stop making art altogether. 12:51
klepassame12:51
volvoguybleh. 12:52
klepasand when school resumes monday i'll have next to no time12:52
volvoguyyou can do like me and go to starbucks for espresso right before they close every night. ;) 12:52
klepashehe12:52
klepasi could12:52
klepasstarbucks are here in down under too12:52
klepasthere is one in civic12:52
klepasvery nice place12:53
klepasbut i'm no where near around that area usually12:53
klepasso the perculator at home will have to do :D12:53
volvoguyi swear. every starbucks in a 10 mile radius starts making my quad espresso for me as soon as they see my car pull in the parking lot. :) that's how much espresso i drink. 12:53
klepaswe've got an expresso machine here as well :)12:53
klepaslol12:53
volvoguydown under? are you an aussie too? 12:53
klepasYep12:54
klepasCanberra, the capital12:54
klepasAndy is up north12:54
volvoguycool! i want to visit there some day. the more people i know there, the better. :)12:54
klepascool12:55
klepasYea, our clug is full of cool hackers and devels12:55
klepasi feel very inferior12:55
volvoguynice. 12:55
klepasright amongst the stars: Andrew Tridge, Brad, and a few others12:55
klepasAndrew Pollock12:55
klepasDrew Parsons12:56
klepas*ggg*12:56
klepasAndrew Tridge fathered Samba12:56
klepas:)12:56
volvoguyi need to visit my lug. they were all excited to hear that i was "the art guy" and i haven't been able to make a meeting since then. oops. 12:56
volvoguynice. 12:56
klepaslol12:56
klepasWhen you come to Canberra, come to the CLUG12:57
klepasmuch fun12:57
volvoguywill do!12:57
klepastalks, chats, install fests, bycle rides around the nearby lakes12:57
klepaspizza.12:57
klepasand lots of other cool places to visit12:57
klepasCanberra is awsome :)12:57
volvoguyahh, i miss riding my bike. (i'm preparing for a spinal fusion in november). ugh. 12:58
klepasyea, i know12:58
klepassounds nasty ever since i found out12:58
volvoguythat's why i disappear for days at a time. drugs are bad kids. :-P12:58
klepas{{{shudders @ the thought of the pain}}}12:58
volvoguyit'll be ok. i have a great doc. he's doing a "not quite a fusion" surgery, which means faster recovery time, more flexibility, and less to go wrong. i feel good about it. 01:00
volvoguybut on that note, i hurt like hell right now, so i'm going to go drug up and go to bed. 01:00
klepashave a good one mate01:01
volvoguyif i miss the meeting, talk about the website for me. :)01:01
volvoguyg'night man!01:01
klepasno worries01:01
klepascheers buddy01:01
klepas:)01:01
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