/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2005/10/12/#ubuntu-kernel.txt

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zulheylo02:43
jbaileyZoool02:51
zulthe only one..02:58
jbaileyHow's things in Ottawa-land?03:00
zulgood...rainy though03:00
jbaileySame here.03:00
jbaileyI think Montral and Ottawa share weather patterns03:00
zulim going to the season opener at the corel center tomorrow...wohoo03:00
zulyeah03:00
jbaileyErr.03:00
zulits cold as well03:00
jbaileyI'm assuming you don't mean that they close the Corel Centre for the summmer..03:00
zulno its open for concerts and stuff and they have a couple of restraunts and a ymca or something03:01
jbaileyAh.  What will they be showing tomorrow?03:01
zulsenators vs sabres03:02
jbaileySounds like names of Sports teams.  Which sport?03:03
zulhockey03:03
jbaileyOh cool!  Have they stopped being on strike now?03:03
jbaileyI saw a hockey game on TV the other night, but I wasn't sure if it was more overseas stuff.03:04
zulyeah they stopped a couple of months ago season just started on wednesday03:04
zulmy productivity goes way down now ;)03:04
jbaileyNice.03:04
jbaileyAlthough I can see taking a year off being good for the soul.03:05
jbaileySo good on 'em for taking a sebaticle =)03:05
zulyeah they can live like normal people for once without their money03:05
jbaileyIf they didn't have enough saved up and invested to live off the residuals, then its their own problem.03:23
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jbaileyAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH04:55
jbailey(for zul)04:55
zulheh...thanks05:44
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zulhey johnm 06:59
fabbioneyo07:01
BenChey fab07:02
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fabbionehey BenC 07:02
fabbioneBenC: did you finish your movement?07:03
fabbionewe could seriously make use of your e3k now07:03
fabbionegiven that davem just fixed oo2 for us07:03
BenCyeah, but no internet at the new house yet07:03
fabbioneah07:03
fabbioneETA?07:03
BenCnext week07:03
fabbione*sighs*07:04
BenCI had to get satellite internet07:04
BenCthe cable company pretty much fed me full of shit, and then wanted to quote me $28,000 to get cable run to my house (4900 feet of cable at $7/foot)07:04
fabbionedoh07:05
fabbioneare they nuts?07:05
BenCnot sure, but I accused of being nuts :)07:05
fabbioneok07:05
fabbionewe are really on the edge right now.. timewise07:05
BenCnot even sure why they would bother quoting me that at all07:05
fabbioneand people keep uploading tons of pkgs for main07:05
fabbioneanyway davem is running breezy on a couple of his sparcs..07:06
fabbionehe seems pretty happy with it07:07
fabbionemodulo firefox crashing07:07
jbaileyBenC: Sattelite internet pretty much makes using your sparcs unlikely. =)07:08
jbaileyOr doing anything interactice over that link, really...07:09
\shBenC: up+downstream over sat, or only downstream?07:10
BenCboth07:15
BenCthey have a 2Mbs down, 1Mbs up package07:16
BenCyeah, the latency is bad, but it should be ok07:16
\shBenC: nice :) ok..forget the 512ms latency..in 1997 we did some experiments with internet over sat as backup lines for ISPs in germany07:17
BenCI had sat internet a few years ago, but it was only 64k up, so I'm hoping this will be a little better07:18
\shBenC: at this time it was quite expensive 30k DM installation costs (sat dish 4.50m diameter and some other special german goverment stuff) and the line itself was 3mbit down + 1mbit up and was 10k DM per month07:21
BenCplus the hardware they have now is stand-alone and acts as a router07:21
BenCso I don't need to have win98 running my LAN and reboot it every 3 hours07:21
fabbioneehehe07:22
BenCIIRC, they use hughes equipment now, which would mean that the router is a linux based system07:23
johnm'lo all07:24
johnmzul: hi07:24
BenChey johnm07:24
johnmJust got home, so it's a bit belated.07:24
johnmBenC: whats the possibility of long-haul wireless?07:25
johnmBenC: 3.4Ghz or even microwave?07:25
fabbionethey are expensive07:26
=== johnm hugs the luxury of working on an Island telecoms network :)
johnmI worked for the Teleco, and now for the competing ISP.07:26
fabbionei am happy with my 6Mb adsl07:26
fabbione:)07:26
johnmWe have a license for this stuff, so i tend to enhoy 25mbit or so just for me :)07:26
johnmNot many places im the UK are dealing with ADSL2+ yes07:27
fabbioneehhe not too bad07:27
johnmin*07:27
fabbionei hope we will get fibers soon here..07:27
johnmyet*07:27
fabbioneat least that's the plan for the block07:27
johnmwhere is here? :)07:27
mkrufkyis this a new technology?  i havent heard of 2.4 Ghz wifi band07:27
johnm3.4?07:27
fabbionejohnm: dk.07:27
mkrufkyoops.. thats what i meant07:27
johnmfabbione: ah.. nice.07:27
mkrufkyof course we all know 2.4Ghz07:27
fabbioneyup..07:27
johnmmkrufky: it's not new. but it's not very common07:27
fabbioneup to 100Mb07:27
fabbionefiber07:27
johnmfabbione: would be nice. That would be cheap kit im sure :\07:28
mkrufkyjohnm:  wow... very interesting... does it have a name?07:28
fabbionejohnm: it is cheap :)07:28
johnmfabbione: always a good thing for consumers07:28
johnmmkrufky: Not particular. it's all ATM stuff ostly. Check out Cambridge Broadband07:28
fabbioneyeah07:29
mkrufkyah, ok07:29
johnm:(07:30
johnmemail is such a burden!07:30
johnmnot sure what anyone else is like.. would be interesting to know, but I get about 700 mails a day (roughly). Out of that 45% is legitimate mail. Out of that there are about 30% which I can safely ignore.07:31
johnmSeems to take forever!07:31
fabbioneeheh07:31
fabbione700 emails is NOTHING07:31
johnmAre you including or excluding LKML+friends? :)07:32
fabbionerun amavis-ng or something..07:32
johnmyeah, I considered that.07:32
fabbionei am not subbed to LKML anymore07:32
johnmI do have it on my server, but my server is dead until I setup sticks somewhere else.07:32
fabbionebetween friends, mailing list and no LKML i get around 3K emails/day already filtered07:32
johnmSo everything right now is clientside, except for procmail serverside.07:32
johnmThats a little more than me :)07:33
fabbionelast week it went down to a 1K or so07:33
mkrufkyi have about the same07:33
johnmI think im about 2k give or take a few hundred with lists.07:33
BenCjohnm: not likely around where I am, I looked into long range wireless about a year ago, and there's just no one around to do it07:33
mkrufkyi just tell my friends to call me07:33
fabbionegiven that i unsubbed from almost all debian mailing list07:33
johnmBenC: shame :(07:33
johnmanyone else fed up of seeing the cmdline !> 256 bug/patch :(07:37
zuli use smoke signals09:03
mkrufkyzul: not easy to send kernel patches using smoke signals09:10
zulmkrufky: hmm...or carrier pigeons09:20
jbaileyAt least avian carriers have a standard...09:22
zultrue09:27
mkrufkythink of all those poor carrier pigeons risking their lives for LKML10:15
zulyou know there are some flaming carrier pigeons as well ;)10:30
zulanyways im heading home10:30
zullater10:31
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