=== chmj [n=chmj@wbs-146-128-197.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mjg59 [n=mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mjg59 [n=mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont__ [n=lamont@129.19.2.8] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-077-142.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-122-217.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === joh__ [n=joh@cD908888B.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:43] heylo [02:51] Zoool [02:58] the only one.. [03:00] How's things in Ottawa-land? [03:00] good...rainy though [03:00] Same here. [03:00] I think Montral and Ottawa share weather patterns [03:00] im going to the season opener at the corel center tomorrow...wohoo [03:00] yeah [03:00] Err. [03:00] its cold as well [03:00] I'm assuming you don't mean that they close the Corel Centre for the summmer.. [03:01] no its open for concerts and stuff and they have a couple of restraunts and a ymca or something [03:01] Ah. What will they be showing tomorrow? [03:02] senators vs sabres [03:03] Sounds like names of Sports teams. Which sport? [03:03] hockey [03:03] Oh cool! Have they stopped being on strike now? [03:04] I saw a hockey game on TV the other night, but I wasn't sure if it was more overseas stuff. [03:04] yeah they stopped a couple of months ago season just started on wednesday [03:04] my productivity goes way down now ;) [03:04] Nice. [03:05] Although I can see taking a year off being good for the soul. [03:05] So good on 'em for taking a sebaticle =) [03:05] yeah they can live like normal people for once without their money [03:23] If they didn't have enough saved up and invested to live off the residuals, then its their own problem. === lamont [n=lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Qua [n=Qua@62.232.38.28] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mkrufky [n=mk@68.160.103.77] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:55] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH [04:55] (for zul) [05:44] heh...thanks === johnm [n=johnm@gentoo/developer/johnm] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:59] hey johnm [07:01] yo [07:02] hey fab === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-122-217.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] [07:02] hey BenC [07:03] BenC: did you finish your movement? [07:03] we could seriously make use of your e3k now [07:03] given that davem just fixed oo2 for us [07:03] yeah, but no internet at the new house yet [07:03] ah [07:03] ETA? [07:03] next week [07:04] *sighs* [07:04] I had to get satellite internet [07:04] the cable company pretty much fed me full of shit, and then wanted to quote me $28,000 to get cable run to my house (4900 feet of cable at $7/foot) [07:05] doh [07:05] are they nuts? [07:05] not sure, but I accused of being nuts :) [07:05] ok [07:05] we are really on the edge right now.. timewise [07:05] not even sure why they would bother quoting me that at all [07:05] and people keep uploading tons of pkgs for main [07:06] anyway davem is running breezy on a couple of his sparcs.. [07:07] he seems pretty happy with it [07:07] modulo firefox crashing [07:08] BenC: Sattelite internet pretty much makes using your sparcs unlikely. =) [07:09] Or doing anything interactice over that link, really... [07:10] <\sh> BenC: up+downstream over sat, or only downstream? [07:15] both [07:16] they have a 2Mbs down, 1Mbs up package [07:16] yeah, the latency is bad, but it should be ok [07:17] <\sh> BenC: nice :) ok..forget the 512ms latency..in 1997 we did some experiments with internet over sat as backup lines for ISPs in germany [07:18] I had sat internet a few years ago, but it was only 64k up, so I'm hoping this will be a little better [07:21] <\sh> BenC: at this time it was quite expensive 30k DM installation costs (sat dish 4.50m diameter and some other special german goverment stuff) and the line itself was 3mbit down + 1mbit up and was 10k DM per month [07:21] plus the hardware they have now is stand-alone and acts as a router [07:21] so I don't need to have win98 running my LAN and reboot it every 3 hours [07:22] ehehe [07:23] IIRC, they use hughes equipment now, which would mean that the router is a linux based system [07:24] 'lo all [07:24] zul: hi [07:24] hey johnm [07:24] Just got home, so it's a bit belated. [07:25] BenC: whats the possibility of long-haul wireless? [07:25] BenC: 3.4Ghz or even microwave? [07:26] they are expensive === johnm hugs the luxury of working on an Island telecoms network :) [07:26] I worked for the Teleco, and now for the competing ISP. [07:26] i am happy with my 6Mb adsl [07:26] :) [07:26] We have a license for this stuff, so i tend to enhoy 25mbit or so just for me :) [07:27] Not many places im the UK are dealing with ADSL2+ yes [07:27] ehhe not too bad [07:27] in* [07:27] i hope we will get fibers soon here.. [07:27] yet* [07:27] at least that's the plan for the block [07:27] where is here? :) [07:27] is this a new technology? i havent heard of 2.4 Ghz wifi band [07:27] 3.4? [07:27] johnm: dk. [07:27] oops.. thats what i meant [07:27] fabbione: ah.. nice. [07:27] of course we all know 2.4Ghz [07:27] yup.. [07:27] mkrufky: it's not new. but it's not very common [07:27] up to 100Mb [07:27] fiber [07:28] fabbione: would be nice. That would be cheap kit im sure :\ [07:28] johnm: wow... very interesting... does it have a name? [07:28] johnm: it is cheap :) [07:28] fabbione: always a good thing for consumers [07:28] mkrufky: Not particular. it's all ATM stuff ostly. Check out Cambridge Broadband [07:29] yeah [07:29] ah, ok [07:30] :( [07:30] email is such a burden! [07:31] not sure what anyone else is like.. would be interesting to know, but I get about 700 mails a day (roughly). Out of that 45% is legitimate mail. Out of that there are about 30% which I can safely ignore. [07:31] Seems to take forever! [07:31] eheh [07:31] 700 emails is NOTHING [07:32] Are you including or excluding LKML+friends? :) [07:32] run amavis-ng or something.. [07:32] yeah, I considered that. [07:32] i am not subbed to LKML anymore [07:32] I do have it on my server, but my server is dead until I setup sticks somewhere else. [07:32] between friends, mailing list and no LKML i get around 3K emails/day already filtered [07:32] So everything right now is clientside, except for procmail serverside. [07:33] Thats a little more than me :) [07:33] last week it went down to a 1K or so [07:33] i have about the same [07:33] I think im about 2k give or take a few hundred with lists. [07:33] johnm: not likely around where I am, I looked into long range wireless about a year ago, and there's just no one around to do it [07:33] i just tell my friends to call me [07:33] given that i unsubbed from almost all debian mailing list [07:33] BenC: shame :( [07:37] anyone else fed up of seeing the cmdline !> 256 bug/patch :( [09:03] i use smoke signals [09:10] zul: not easy to send kernel patches using smoke signals [09:20] mkrufky: hmm...or carrier pigeons [09:22] At least avian carriers have a standard... [09:27] true [10:15] think of all those poor carrier pigeons risking their lives for LKML [10:30] you know there are some flaming carrier pigeons as well ;) [10:30] anyways im heading home [10:31] later === mkrufky [n=mk@68.160.103.77] has left #ubuntu-kernel []