[12:02] Got lintain down to one error [12:03] native-package-with-dash-version [12:03] Kyral: what package was it again? [12:03] fortune-mod-futurama [12:03] I haven't uploaded these changes yet :P [12:03] Kyral: i think i know the reason for this error ;) [12:04] yes? [12:05] Kyral: just glancing at the debian-policy, so i don't tell you wrong stuff ;) [12:05] lol === sistpoty always gets it wrong with version numbers btw [12:06] lol === ryu [n=chris@p5487C63B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] Kyral: use 0.2ubuntu1 as your version in changelog file... that should fix the lintian complaints === mbabuskov [n=root@62.108.118.117] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:09] lintian is clean, now to check with linda [12:09] which is also clean [12:10] good work ;) [12:10] and uploaded to REVU [12:11] wait a sec [12:11] okay it passed linda on my system [12:12] but the REVU one is spitting out an error [12:13] Kyral: you can ignore this... linda on revu-server is outdated ;) [12:13] okay === sistpoty installs a newer linda === ccole_ [n=ccole@157.182.194.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:14] okay [12:14] so all it needs is someone to advocate it [12:15] yes, two motus need to advocate on this (as it is a new package), and then one motu to upload ;) [12:15] hehe [12:17] Its a small package so it should be easy to get sponsored === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:19] Is there a Meta-Pack for the boost libs? And would anyone be objected to one? [12:19] Kyral: what do you mean with meta-pack? (virtual package?) [12:20] yah, something that just installs all of them instead of having to do it one at a time [12:20] think kubuntu/ubuntu-desktop [12:22] hm... libboost-dev pretty much should do the job? [12:22] it doesn't [12:22] I should I know I installed it today and it didn't pull them in [12:22] it only reccommends them [12:23] did you install with apt-get or aptitude? [12:23] or s.th. else? [12:23] aptitude and apt [12:23] err, its SUGGESTS, not recommends [12:24] and somehow Apt-Get started acting like Aptitude... [12:25] why is g++-4.0 in http://popcon.ubuntu.com/universe/by_inst ? [12:25] **ARG**ARG**ARG** [12:25] Kyral: sorry, don't know much about libboost-deps, maybe there is some reason for the recommends only. [12:26] Kyral: but as long as there is one "meta-package" i don't think a virtual package or similar will be needed [12:26] suggests even ;) [12:26] and aptitude seems to always force a long prelink.. [12:27] dholbach: why shouldn't it be there? (some popcon magic?) [12:27] sistpoty: universe.? [12:28] ajmitch: good point ;) [12:29] I don't think libboost-dev is a meta-package.. === ryu [n=chris@p5487C63B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] Kyral: no it isn't (afaik)... that's why i used quotes ;) [12:31] ah [12:33] hey MOTUs, im using cdbs and everytime i build a package, im left with files a bunch of extra files in the debian directory [12:33] Kyral: have you tried your fortunes-package in pbuilder? [12:33] how do i get rid of them? [12:33] sistpoty, no [12:33] Sepheebear, debuild clean [12:33] Kyral: maybe you should... PBuilderHowto should be the wiki for instructions on pbuilder [12:33] Kyral: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/fortune-mod-futurama-0510061810/fortune-mod-futurama_0.2ubuntu1.buildlog [12:34] Kyral: do i run that or is cdbs supposed to do thatfor me? [12:34] Kyral: but this may be related to some problem with revu-build as well === slomo [n=slomo@p5487F861.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:34] Sepheebear, I dunno I don't use CDBS [12:34] sistpoty, I think the problem is that debhelper listed itself in the build-depends... [12:36] what effect would it have if I removed it? [12:37] Kyral: no, debhelper must be there if you use dh_* commands in rules... otherwise it will FTBFS [12:37] okay [12:37] the only thing I see is that I forgot that there is no CLEAN in the makefile [12:40] okay, got rid of the clean parts in the rules === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:42] Kyral: the clean is not the problem [12:42] eh? [12:43] Kyral: your install target in rules does too few things ;) === Kyral scratches his head [12:43] eh? [12:46] Kyral: you are missing dh_gencontrol, dh_md5sum, dh_builddeb [12:46] I didn't think I needed those [12:47] Kyral: iirc the rules file (when called with appropriate targets) must produce a package. if you want to know the details, they should be located in the debian-policy ;) === ajmitch needs to 'educate' Lathiat, a bug was in state accepted because I hadn't finished working on it :P [12:50] sistpoty, ah okay [12:51] fixed === MojOrow [n=hbecker@d150-37-128.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] wait...why did that make another error? [12:52] ? [12:52] E: fortune-mod-futurama source: debian-files-list-in-source [12:52] Kyral: what is that package? [12:53] sounds like fortunes from the cartoon futurama :) [12:53] an addon for Fortune [12:53] ah [12:53] I should put that on my machine [12:53] hostname == bender :-) [12:53] I was stupid I wiped out the dh_clean parts in rules [12:54] okay that is done, should be the last upload [12:55] Kyral: have you tried it in pbuilder yet? [12:55] I don't have a pbuilder setup [12:55] I've been kinda busy with school... [12:55] you really need one if you intend to package [12:55] it takes about 20 minutes [12:56] 5 of real work [12:57] fine...its just been a long day [12:57] Kyral: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto (maybe you need to s/hoary/breezy/) === lamont__ [n=lamont@129.19.2.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty will be back after a smoke [01:00] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseFTBFS [01:01] please read the "problems" section carefully [01:01] okay....what does FTBFS mean... [01:02] Kyral: apt-get install bsdgames; wtf ftbfs [01:02] still doesn't mean anything [01:03] hmm? ''wtf ftbfs'' will tell you [01:03] Kyral: did you execute it? [01:03] no [01:04] ah well [01:04] ah... [01:04] :) [01:04] fortune-mod-futurama doesn't have that problem. No source code in the first place ;P [01:05] source refers to the .orig.tar.gz ;) [01:05] ftbfs means the source fails to produce a dpkg [01:05] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseFTBFSi386 <<--So these don't build from source? [01:05] not nessecarily GCC bomb [01:08] okaaay....sorry my mind is processing slowly tonight... [01:10] Lathiat: did you mail elmo re myththemes === dereks__ [n=dereks@66.9.7.66] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:13] how evil is it to hack a configure to force use things like HAVE_SPRINTF (instead of fixing it?) [01:13] so i guess we have something to do :) === sistpoty is just working on xosview... apart from still pbuildering hat === PlanarPlatypus [n=Peter@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Diablo-D3 [i=diablod3@pool-70-105-255-181.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@unaffiliated/lotusleaf] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@unaffiliated/lotusleaf] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Diablo-D3 flexes muscles. === sistpoty casts some defensive spells [01:26] ;) [01:28] heh [01:28] ogra++ [01:28] :) [01:28] ogra++ from me as well ;) [01:28] ogra-- and ogra-- [01:28] because karma sucks. [01:28] you can all go nuts [01:28] right here [01:28] lol [01:29] bah, taken already [01:29] i just installed rc on my laptop [01:29] its elite [01:29] how so? [01:29] zarro boogs [01:29] I hate that [01:30] Diablo-D3, universe still has bugs, dont worry [01:30] no, I meant the way that phrase is spelled [01:30] hm sid has xorg? [01:30] its so... so.... fucktarded. [01:30] tseng: yup [01:30] it is upgrading me to 6.8.2 :) [01:30] well, I think it does. === dholbach gets cracking on UniverseFTBFS [01:31] dholbach: dude you need a script to find stuff that has been fixed since [01:31] i think there are way too many failures to validate [01:31] i took the builds from september and october [01:31] dholbach, apt-get.org done ? :) [01:31] sorry, if it causes grief [01:31] apt-get never done [01:32] ogra: what sort of interrogation is this? :) [01:32] dholbach: ask him about edubuntu [01:32] dholbach: should we list packages we are touching somewhere? [01:32] dholbach: or screensavers [01:32] dholbach: REVENGE [01:32] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/ardour/+bug/2924 [01:32] re:a rdour bug === ogra hides [01:32] sistpoty: i just did a tiny note on them [01:32] Diablo-D3: I'm working on it. [01:33] er, hey crimsun [01:33] be-in-every-channel-on-freenode much? [01:33] dholbach: maybe notes on each arch-page isn't a good idea? what about noting on UniverseFTBFS? [01:34] sistpoty: that leaves the problem of cleaning-up-after-one-has-fixed-stuff [01:34] sistpoty: but it's worth a try [01:34] ok... will you edit the page or shall i? [01:35] sistpoty: go ahead :) [01:35] crimsun: I'm guessing universe packages cant automatically add other universe packages? [01:35] correct [01:36] how -that- works? [01:36] sistpoty: it'd be great, if we'd get the top 25% fixed (or the stuff in there) [01:36] yep... i'm already working on it ;) [01:36] what is bold in wiki? [01:37] '''BLA''' [01:37] ok, thx === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] wiki updated... just a quick thing though ;) [01:39] Heya gang, sistpoty [01:40] hi bddebian === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] bddebian (god): there is much work todo: UniverseFTBFS (wiki) [01:42] hm [01:42] why are there binary packages listed on the FTBFS pages? wouldn't it be better to list the source packages? === azeem [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:45] sistpoty: Aye, I heard :-( === sistpoty is hoping for a wonder [01:46] bddebian: now i know where i saw that stupid error from earlier that evening: xosview :( [01:46] slomo: popcon has binary packages [01:47] dholbach: but this way we have many "duplicates" there :( [01:47] well, i'll fix gst-ffmpeg for ppc... [01:47] slomo: i wanted to make it easier to concentrate on the top 20%-25% [01:48] Who's gonna send me a PPC and amd64 machine?? ;-P [01:48] bddebian is a false god! [01:49] hehe... some diabolic statements? :P === bddebian never claimed to be a god :-) === bddebian is an idiot [01:50] that goes in my quote files. === dholbach hugs bddebian [01:51] Heh [01:51] <-- out for a cigarette [01:51] in return, here is a quote [01:52] thanks to outsourcing, "too many chiefs and not enough indians" takes on all new meaning === dereks__ [n=dereks@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] Diablo-D3: ardour-gtk actually builds just fine, it just needs to be given back [01:58] crimsun: english please? [01:58] Diablo-D3: the buildds are doing something funky. [01:58] it built just fine here on amd64 and i386 [01:59] meh =( === fredix [n=fredix@105.73.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Diablo-D3 ponders just building it himself then. [02:00] lamont__: any possibility you could give-back ardour? It builds fine here on both i386 and amd64 yet fails on the buildds. === Diablo-D3 tries to remember how to do that === dereks__ [n=dereks@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] crimsun: not where I can do it for about another 3 hours... can you ping me when I'm back to being lamont? [02:01] lamont__: yes, thanks. === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] Heya tritium, welcome to the "fun" :-) [02:04] hi bddebian. What's the fun? [02:05] tritium: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseFTBFS :-) [02:05] Now get to work. ;-P [02:05] tritium knows from last time :) [02:05] hey michael :) [02:05] hi dholbach :) === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] Cool, let me eat some dinner with my wife, and I'll look for some guidance from you, bddebian. Cool? [02:06] Damn you people are misguided ;-) [02:07] heh, I'll be back soon... [02:07] (working on vlc.) [02:08] Good man :-) === bddebian is still fighting with cyphesis-cpp :-( === ColonelKernel [i=ishai@24-205-124-191.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] sistpoty: i added another table [02:10] sistpoty: to make sure we're organized [02:10] :) [02:10] the cflags I put into the kernel yesterday have REAlly made an improvement on my system performance, I want to thank you guys a lot === ajmitch returns [02:11] dholbach: cool :) [02:11] for most other things you just put them in when you do ./configure [02:11] I recompiled xchat and tvtime and they are faster too [02:11] wb ajmitch === Diablo-D3 wonders when the kernel got autotools [02:11] wb ajmitch [02:11] system startup is a little bit slower, im assuming because the modules are all a bit larger [02:12] and it uses more memory too [02:12] about 100mb more === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-077-142.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] dholbach: so you want us to clean all the junk from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseFTBFSi386 ? [02:15] if anybody has a cleverer list, go ahead [02:15] i don't insist on mine [02:18] ColonelKernel, np === ajmitch wonders what he should work on first [02:18] TMM, video games and everything are faster [02:18] hey ajmitch [02:18] the system itself now starts up gnome and runs apps faster [02:19] ColonelKernel, good for you! :) [02:19] hello === ColonelKernel beams with pride [02:19] ajmitch, I think I fixed all the bugs in my package :) [02:19] and YES I used -O3 and it didnt break or hurt ANYTHING [02:19] what is BTFS anyway? [02:19] ColonelKernel, -O3 on the kernel source? [02:19] FTBFS? fails to build from source [02:20] ColonelKernel, usually -O3 won't break anything, it was some of the other more exotic flags that you used [02:20] TMM: apt-get install bsdgames; wtf ftbfs [02:20] TMM, no ill effects here [02:20] not yet anyhow [02:20] ajmitch, are 'we' supposed to fix that? :) [02:21] TMM: sure [02:21] we're meant to fix as many bugs as we can [02:21] but please read the "problems" section [02:21] so, just apt-get source it and see what fails then? [02:21] that makes stuff easier to understand [02:22] TMM: there are build logs on http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test [02:22] dholbach, where do I find the problem section? [02:22] TMM: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseFTBFS [02:23] dholbach, I'm just like a monkey I just click links that people past, and then I get interested ;) [02:23] that's a good way to get started :) === ajmitch is more like a sloth than a monkey === bmonty_laptop [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian kicks ajmitch ;-) [02:24] Heya bmonty_laptop [02:24] hi bddebian [02:24] nice, first message I see is bddebian kicking ajmitch :) [02:24] bmonty_laptop: Tonights fun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseFTBFS [02:24] so, the thing is: first check if the package is not in main, then see if it is perhaps a binary package and then see the buildlog, then fix? [02:25] slomo: hi slomo are you here ? [02:25] bmonty_laptop: I deserve it, I'm lazy [02:25] fredix: sure [02:25] ajmitch: STOP SAYING THAT!! [02:25] slomo: many thanks about your new upload of ruby-gnome2 [02:26] fredix: np :) it fixed a problem with alexandria too ;) [02:26] bddebian: why? [02:26] I think I struck gold immediately :) [02:26] slomo: are you in the muturubyteam ? [02:26] rox-filer is said to fail, but there is no buildlog? [02:26] fredix: nope [02:27] TMM: apt-cache showsrc rox-filer [02:27] TMM: it gives you the "source package" [02:27] TMM: often, more than one binary package is built from one source package [02:27] TMM: 'rox' is what you're looking for [02:28] slomo: maybe it'll should be interest you [02:28] dholbach, so it might not fail to build at all then? === sistpoty needs to go to bed... gn8 everyone [02:28] night sistpoty [02:29] fredix: yes i already thought about it... maybe when i know more about ruby as i do now ;) [02:29] dholbach, ok... mind if I pester you a tad more? :) [02:29] wow, I didn't think there were this many packages that are FTBFS [02:30] the build-log for helix-player is from 24-jul and it complains about missing sourcepackages (x-dev for one, but also gtk and atk packages) [02:30] that doesn't make sense [02:30] ajmitch: were you the one who has an old g3? i have something i need to test on a non-altivec powerpc... [02:30] bmonty_laptop: there aren't, quite a few can be dropped from the list [02:30] slomo: ok ;) i go to sleep, thanks [02:30] fredix: good night :) [02:30] slomo: yes, and I don't have access to it right now [02:31] ajmitch: Because you aren't [02:31] ajmitch: hm... too bad :( so let's wait for bugreports after release ;) [02:31] slomo: maybe in a day or two [02:31] bddebian: 483 on those lists should be your favourite :) [02:32] is someone here who has a x86 without mmx? [02:32] dholbach: Hey, that shouldn't be there.. :-) [02:32] I think that's main anyway isn't it? [02:32] bddebian: yeah, in some cases it's a bit of reasearch [02:33] bddebian: popcon is a bit unreliable about main/universe stuff === bddebian forces cyphesis-cpp to build with g++-3.4 [02:33] and in some other cases source packages have binary packages in universe and in main [02:34] slomo, I've got one, pentium 120 [02:35] OK, now syphulus-cpp is on my list of packages that SUCK [02:35] Err cyphesis.. ;-) === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] TMM: can you test gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg for me? for example play a divx with totem-gstreamer [02:37] wow [02:37] takes awhile to compile ardour [02:38] Should a rebuild be -0build1 or .1build1 ? [02:38] bddebian: what was it before? [02:38] Oh, nm it was 1.3-3.1 so 1.3-3.1build1 [02:38] yeah [02:39] 1.3, 3rd debian revision, 1st NMU, 1st ubuntu rebuild ;) === ajmitch is glad we don't use versioning like linspire [02:39] Should we add .desktop files while we are at it?? ;-) [02:40] they have an example like 2:1:1.0-0.0.2003.10.23-2-9.4.1 [02:40] bddebian: that'd be 1.3-3.1build1desktop1 [02:40] which is just *scary* [02:40] bddebian, sure [02:40] dholbach: huh? [02:40] ajmitch: :-) [02:40] bddebian: so elmo knows which one to reject ;) [02:40] heh [02:41] BTW, if anyone looks at zorp, forget it, it's unfixable [02:41] bddebian: debian fixes? something in their bts? [02:41] ogra: Sure what? .desktop files [02:41] dholbach: Unless the newer stuff comes in from upstream it's unbuildable with the version of libzorpll [02:42] bddebian, yes [02:42] bddebian: one patch in debian's BTS, and a newer debian revision === tritium is back [02:44] IIRCC, zorp 2.x will NOT build with libzorpll 3.x. IT would have to be updated with zorp 3.x stuff [02:45] slomo, on a p120? are you insane? :) [02:45] bddebian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=301618 :) [02:46] bddebian: looks like that'd be a solution [02:46] dholbach: I don't see 3.0.3 on packages.d.o though?? === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] bddebian: new upstream version [02:47] Oh aye [02:47] slomo, there's no ubuntu on that machine now, I'll try installing it tomorrow, I really don't feel like doing that now [02:51] does anyone use zorp? :) [02:54] bddebian, I'll take a look at xfig [02:54] be sure you all check how the last test builds and the normal archive builds went (and when they were) :) === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.246.97.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] uh [03:01] crimsun [03:02] the srcpkg ardour doesnt build libardour0 === slomo_ [n=slomo@p5487FADA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] dholbach, bddebian: so we first just want to check if the package will be from source now without any changes? [03:04] s/be/build [03:04] tritium: sure [03:05] ajmitch: Doubtfully ;-) === bddebian is working on xshogi === ajmitch is not working [03:07] Diablo-D3: it doesn't need to. [03:08] Diablo-D3: notice that's not one of ardour_0.9beta29-5ubuntu1's binary packages. [03:12] er wtf then [03:12] the one in universe right now needs it =P [03:14] doesn't matter, there's a newer source version === wickedpuppy [n=wickedpu@cm25.epsilon165.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] it just needs to be given-back, which will happen in a few hours === dereks___ [n=dereks@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] good night guys... it's alreday 3 again :) [03:19] Good night dholbach :) [03:20] cya [03:20] see you :) === N17R0 [n=wietboer@unaffiliated/n17r0] has joined #ubuntu-motu === N17R0 [n=wietboer@unaffiliated/n17r0] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === N17R0 [n=wietboer@unaffiliated/n17r0] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] I can't figure out which package is supposed to provide stddef.h (included by /usr/include/bits/types.h, line 31) [03:23] apt-file lists several packages that have a stddef.h, but not in the standard include dirs [03:23] tritium: how about linux-kernel-headers?? [03:23] what bmonty said [03:24] tseng: ya [03:24] its in headers :D [03:24] gcc-4.0 and gcc-3.4 each provide it for internal use [03:24] thanks, guys. I'll just need to modify it to look in /usr/include/linux for that file then [03:34] I stuck in something for a while but I'll bbiab === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] tritium: no, gcc should find it on it's own [03:49] doko_, okay, I'll see what happens. I added linux-kernel-headers as a build-dependency. Thanks. [03:51] tritium: that's wrong. linux-kernel-headers is in build-essential [03:51] Okay, and I still get the error. === chuck_gr [n=chuck@c-24-11-81-82.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chuck_gr [n=chuck@c-24-11-81-82.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:55] tritium: does a minimal testcase (#include , gcc -c) work? [03:58] doko_, after logging into my pbuilder chroot? === goatboy [n=tim@04-073.142.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] doko_, it works [04:05] tritium: so find out, why your original example doesn't work. maybe use gcc -H [04:06] I'll try, thanks. === nybble [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:20] bddebian, please query me when you're back === sepheebear_ [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont is back === lamont tries to remember what someone was asking him to do earlier, completely fails... [04:27] anybody have scrollback from around 2 hours ago? === rbelem_ [n=rodrigo@200.246.97.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:28] bleh [04:28] ever been so tired that you just feel dead? [04:29] lamont: yeh [04:29] 13:00 < crimsun> lamont__: any possibility you could give-back ardour? It builds fine here on both i386 and amd64 yet fails on the buildds. [04:29] crimsun [04:29] right [04:29] danke [04:30] Checking for C header file alsa/asoundlib.h... no [04:30] that was that bug... lessee how it does [04:31] IOW, given-back [04:31] thanks === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] hi jsgotangco [04:35] hi [04:38] same failure === dereks___ [n=dereks@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === nybble [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Rotund [n=joe@d15-228.rb.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] Heya gang, hows' it coming? [05:03] tritium: Still here? [05:04] bddebian, yes, still here === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] hello bddebian [05:05] tritium: Did you need something homey? [05:05] Heya ajmitch [05:05] bddebian, yeah, perhaps a little assitance? I'll query... [05:05] OK [05:05] the master at work.. :) [05:06] Yeah right [05:09] Thanks bddebian === eythian [n=robin@60-234-142-140.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.93.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === talios [n=amrk@nat.bulletinwireless.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dloda [n=dan@ppp-69-238-224-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nybble [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] hi bddebian [05:53] === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] Heya seth_k|lappy :-) [06:05] what is elmo email address? [06:05] to ask for a sync from Debian? [06:07] hub: james.troup@u.c [06:07] bddebian: ok thanks [06:07] damn, i was about to guess jtroup@ubuntu.com [06:08] I think that works too but I'm not sure [06:11] ok thanks [06:11] I was about to package a couple of things, but debian have them already === nybbled [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nybble [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eythian [n=robin@60-234-142-140.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === nybble [n=nybble@neverblows.hpcf.upr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:25] will we get Fx 1.5b2 in universe as a separate version or anything for breezy? (just released tonight) === nybble [n=nybble@neverblows.hpcf.upr.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] yargh [06:29] reeaaall nice [06:29] the ardour I built segfaults everytime I try to add a new buss === foka [n=foka@221.222.206.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Diablo-D3 is hoping the good build doesnt do this [06:41] then try 0.99 from experimental [06:42] I can't possibly ask for a 0.99 sync from experimental this late in the cycle, however [06:42] well [06:42] ardour is pretty useless with that broken [06:42] and it'd really help if you could get a bt on the segfault [06:42] so I could ask for such a thing [06:42] I dont know if its my build or not [06:42] but its really easy to reproduce [06:42] crimsun, do you think it's too late to request a sync of xfig from testing/unstable to fix a ftbfs? [06:43] new session, then add new track/bus, then ask for a new stereo bus [06:43] Diablo-D3: please obtain a bt from gdb and paste it into the malone report [06:43] instant segfault [06:43] tritium: absolutely not === nybble [n=nybble@m056122.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] syncing from sid is fair game imo right up til the 12th === Diablo-D3 rebuilds ardour first. [06:43] cool, thanks [06:44] just to make sure it wasnt a random fluke [06:44] OK, I'm making stupid ass mistakes now, must be time for bed. Gnight folks.. [06:44] 'night bddebian [06:44] Good night, bddebian [06:44] Thanks for your help tracking down that problem === hub is now known as hubZzzz [06:45] crimsun: but yeah, if this bug is real, you'd pretty much have to push 0.99 from experimental [06:45] crimsun: otherwise ardour is dead useless. [06:45] tritium: Anytime brudda [06:45] :) [06:45] Diablo-D3: no, we'll find the bug from the bt and backport the fix [06:45] syncing from experimental one week before freeze is just madness [06:46] YES! ITS MADDDNNESS! WAHAHAHAHAHAHA! [06:46] I should run my own distro. [06:46] First rule of my distro: no stable releases, stable releases are for pansies. [06:46] that's what the bleeding edge (grumpy) is for [06:46] it's slated for parallel "devel" with dapper [06:47] wait, we have names for breezy+1? [06:47] dapper is breezy+1 [06:47] grumpy is dapper+experimental [06:47] at least in theory [06:47] btw, you know why I hate ardour sometimes? [06:47] its gtk... but written in c++. [06:48] /that makes no sense/ [06:48] and it uselessly triples my compile time -_-` [06:48] I think compiling c++ is the only thing I can say is slow no matter how fast my computer is [06:48] === nybble [n=nybble@m056122.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] argh! go! faster! now! === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nybble [n=nybble@m056122.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === nybbled [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nybbled [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Diablo-D3 wonders if he poored nitro on his cpu, it'd go faster [07:01] hey crimsun [07:01] my binary should be identical to the new one, right? === vol0za [n=vladimir@65.200.10.195] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.93.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-122-217.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:06] Hello, I'd like to get involved in the Ubuntu community. Can anybody help me start? I have some coding/Linux experience. [07:09] vol0za: what would you like to do ? [07:11] Actually, I don't know what are the possibilities. As of now, I would prefer coding in Python or C++, but I know that my ideas can be far away from the reality. [07:12] vol0za: no worries - I'm not a MOTU - but I can offer some suggestions [07:14] fixing bugs listed here https://launchpad.net/malone is appreciated [07:14] any suggestions are wellcome [07:14] vol0za: I'm not a MOTU - I'm just a "freelancer" at the moment [07:15] vol0za: what areas are you interested in ? [07:15] eg myself - I have an interest in games an security [07:15] so I tend to try and help with games or security stuff [07:17] laptop + desktop [07:18] I'm using Ubuntu for all my work but I'm still missing some features that will make my life easier and I'm trying ways to help somehow. === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:19] :) - I also use Ubuntu for work - I'm tring to bend ltsp to my will at the moment [07:19] what are the missing features ? [07:19] by desktop I mean the gnome-thingies such as totem etc. [07:20] mentioning the totem, the mozilla plugin is still not very functional [07:20] heh [07:20] vol0za: using totem as an example - there are several bugs in malone [07:21] could you fix that ? [07:21] who knows ? :) [07:22] so, what's the usual process when fixing a bug? [07:24] vol0za: usually first file that bug in malone for universe/multiverse :) [07:25] then apt-get source evil-broken-package (from either warty, hoary or breezy depending on where the package is) [07:26] and if you had some 5 minutes could you give me some short intro to the overall structures here, malone, ... whatever [07:26] I can try - but I know I'm not the best person for it [07:27] for main/restricted bugs are at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com - that is generally canonicals problem - but there are exceptions [07:27] and if you fix a bug the will be happy [07:27] s/the/they [07:28] :) [07:28] universe and multiverse (ie everything else) is looked after by the masochists here [07:29] I'll see if I can find the stats for a top masochist for you [07:30] I'm curious [07:32] barry (bddebian) and sh (stephen)'re up there [07:32] I have just created my launchpad account and my karma says 0. At least I'm not negative. [07:32] everyone starts at 0 [07:33] hmm - my link is slow today [07:34] can we continue in the bug-process show down? I would try I it myself and correct me if I'm wrong. [07:35] someone has to file a bug, after it it has to be confirmed and someone assigns it. [07:36] sure - to actually build the packages you will need a pbuilder set up [07:36] there is a howto in the wiki [07:36] generally any bug assigned to MOTU is fair game I believe, [07:37] as bugs tend to be assigned to groups, not individuals [07:37] haven't heard anything about it, but I suppose that I should be able to find info on that [07:37] any bug in universe/multiverse is game for any of us [07:38] be back soon - lunch with family [07:38] wow, so multiple people are working on a single bug and they compete or what? [07:38] vol0za: not really, it's a team effort [07:38] 30 people for 16000+ packages... [07:38] bye yagisan and thank you for intro === vol0za [n=vladimir@65.200.10.195] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:42] sorry, my ISP plays a game with me === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:14] good night :) [08:15] 'night === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.93.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === foka_ [n=foka@221.222.202.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=user@210.213.70.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:26] hi all! :D === thesaltydog [n=yoshi@host194-61.pool8023.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:42] since yestarday, each time I post a comment on a malone bug, I am receiving a mail from stating that my "mail" is being held... ?? [09:42] thesaltydog: yeh dw about that [09:42] thesaltydog: its because mails to universe-bugs are being held for moderation (which is rwhere reports about all motu bugs go) [09:42] and they changed the from: of the emaisl to be th epeerson changign things [09:43] Lathiat: yes, and the MAIL FROM:<> too, breaking some RFCs [09:43] Lathiat: (i.e. 2821) [09:44] It also breaks for people using SPF-enabled domains [09:46] Lathiat, but I am not sending mails.. just adding comments on launchpad. [09:49] thesaltydog: launchpad sends the mails [09:50] thesaltydog: as you, but in the wrong way [09:54] thesaltydog: launchpad sends the mails for you [09:55] hmmm, does closing bugs in debian/changelog close malone bugs? === talios [n=amrk@202-74-222-122.ue.woosh.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:55] Lathiat: with the wrong MAIL FROM: SMTP envelope address [09:56] hey there - question on the squeak smalltalk packages - theres a manpage for an inisqueak script but no sign of the script itself - anyone able to look into it? or know about it? [09:57] talios: could you file a bug on launchpad.net/malone/ ? [09:58] yep [09:58] thanks === talios assumes I'll need to create an account :) [09:58] talios: which package specifically? [09:59] squeak-sources or squeak-vm ? [10:00] not sure - I'd hazad a guess at squeak-sources === talios tries to remember how to query debian packge info. === Tonio- [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:01] hi there [10:06] Lathiat, entered. [10:06] talios: cheers, bgu number? [10:06] 2930 [10:07] I'm thinking it'll be the squeak-vm package as the manpage talks about the squeak/inisqueak binaries ( and squeak is the vm) [10:07] thanks === zakame [n=zakame@210.213.70.111] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ [n=mikhail@58.69.30.39] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dredg [n=nsherida@80.169.137.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] hi again === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ is away: nature calls... === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487FADA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.93.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c197230.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thesaltydog [n=yoshi@host194-61.pool8023.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:10] is there any MOTU who can sync the latest release of Baobab from debian to breezy? The current version in breezy is quit outdated.. [11:12] breezy has v.1.0.1 and debian v.1.2.0 [11:12] http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/b/baobab/baobab_1.2.0-1/changelog [11:13] at the moment our priority is fixing FTBFS source [11:14] Understand.. [11:14] suggestions? === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:42] hi === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === foka [n=foka@221.217.209.73] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [i=foobar@i577B1AB7.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:56] hellas [11:56] d-man [11:56] i suppose you're talking about me? ;) [11:56] dholbach: hi :) === ivoks [n=ivoks@194-152-206-222.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:dholbach] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | REVU up again: http://revu.tauware.de | First priority: FIX REMAINING TRANSITIONS! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Transitions | It's the BUGDAY! | It's the FTBFS day! http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseFTBFS! :) === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487FADA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:59] dholbach: no such page :) [11:59] remove ! :) === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:dholbach] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | REVU up again: http://revu.tauware.de | First priority: FIX REMAINING TRANSITIONS! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Transitions | It's the BUGDAY! | It's the FTBFS day! http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseFTBFS - Yeah! :) [12:00] :-p [12:00] ok [12:00] time to get cracking [12:00] wooohooo [12:00] hrm transitions [12:00] i should check up on glu transition [12:01] can i do a build-dep rdepends? [12:01] yup [12:01] let's make this happen [12:02] Lathiat: you want to use grep-dctrl [12:02] Lathiat: and ajmitch is our grep-dctrl-hero [12:02] hm ok [12:03] i'll fiddle [12:03] hm... [12:03] my bat status droped from 40% to 3% in one second [12:03] ivoks: you have a couple f**ked cells :( [12:03] you think? [12:03] was that a sarcastic comment or a question [12:04] question [12:04] that or your acpi is fucked [12:04] couse this started to happen after one acpi upgrade [12:04] yeh could be fucked DSDT or whatever it is [12:04] try a hoary livecd or something [12:04] and laptop is almost new (not even a year) [12:04] ivoks: could you try http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/gnome-applets packages and see if they behave better for you? [12:04] i guess it'll be to late to get that stuff in for breezy [12:04] but for dapper we should [12:05] dholbach: wassit fix? [12:05] dholbach: this isn't related to gnome [12:05] ivoks: ahhh ok... i thought it was a battery applet display problem [12:05] dholbach: /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/status shows in one moment 30000 [12:05] dholbach: and then in other 5000 [12:05] because it has some issues [12:06] when i think more about it... it isn't a linux problem [12:06] since led starts to blink when that happens [12:06] so i guess, by bat is crapy [12:06] oh ok [12:06] ivoks: well [12:06] ivoks: it can be [12:06] ivoks: if the 40% is wrong [12:07] ivoks: you may be able to gauge better on how long your battery lasts compared to how long it used to lsat [12:07] e.g. ar eyou actually getting a 35% drop in life [12:07] Lathiat: yup... [12:07] we check that out next time [12:07] ok [12:08] it's hard to messure since i put lap in sleep all the time [12:08] it's never off [12:08] measure it some time :) [12:08] but i think i have a real life-drop :/ [12:08] ivoks: well if your on a year you might still be in warranty [12:08] ah... dell never again [12:08] Lathiat: warranty is for US only :( [12:08] dell hey? [12:09] hrm [12:09] i have 2 dells [12:09] theyre both great machines [12:09] inspiron 8600, precision m20 [12:09] mine is 8600 :) [12:09] oh [12:09] my 8600 is great [12:09] wana trade for battery? :) [12:09] i did have to get the lcd replaced 3 times tho [12:09] ivoks: you can get batteries cheap on ebay [12:09] Lathiat: yeah, i could sell mine on ebay too :) === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.93.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:10] ivoks: heh === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:13] there is no more syncing from debian, right? [12:13] should be fine for universe? [12:13] if relaly needed tho [12:13] fixes ftbs :) [12:13] sounds good to me [12:14] all right... [12:14] what pakage anyway [12:17] ttt [12:17] sync won't help [12:20] yeah! it builds [12:20] but, is it usable... :) [12:21] it is! :) === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] dholbach: ping [12:23] ivoks: pong [12:23] dholbach: we just upload it or it needs special revision? [12:23] what are you talking about? [12:23] ftbs fixing [12:24] go ahead, if it builds and works for you, i trust your judgment [12:24] can i just upload it or i have to ping elmo or anyone? [12:24] since we are close to release [12:24] it is universe, isnt it? [12:24] yes [12:24] go ahead [12:25] ok === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:26] hello [12:27] hi dholbach [12:27] morning jani [12:27] deskbar-applet can be taken down from revu, it's uploaded by mithrandir [12:28] dholbach: there are some packages on the list that builds without problems... [12:29] ivoks: some of them didnt build in the test rebuilds and got fixed afterwards - sorry for the noise, then - just remove them from the list, if they built in the archive [12:29] ok === markuman [n=markuman@p50924A21.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] ivoks: for next release, i'll have a cleverer script [12:33] np [12:33] ivoks: i had the idea we should collect clever scripts in a motu-tools package [12:33] so everybody could improve them and we all had the tools to make a good job [12:33] dholbach: mmm, ajmitch and i have a little bzr repo with a few usefull tools [12:33] Lathiat: wouldnt it be better to have them in the archive? [12:34] Lathiat: so we'd "release them with documentation and everything" every now and then? [12:34] sure [12:34] just mentioning we have one [12:34] yeah... that's cool [12:34] gcc-4.0 universe ftbs (?) blink blink :) [12:34] we do SUCH a good job :) [12:34] haha ivoks === Lathiat patiently waits for pbuilder to finish creating [12:35] the real bitch with pbuilder is if the apt sources download filas [12:35] like when the archive is broken [12:35] (which happens far too often) [12:35] the whole thing aborts and you ahve to start again [12:35] *fails === ivoks user sniffit for years [12:36] never tried iptraf [12:36] what a fool I was === Lathiat laughs [12:37] bwm is good to [12:37] as is dstat [12:37] dstat -a 10 [12:37] Lathiat: what do you think of bwm-ng? [12:37] dholbach: havent tried it [12:37] is it packaged? [12:37] yes === Lathiat tries it [12:38] a friend of mine wrote it, so i packaged it ;) [12:38] ah [12:39] well for a start the default interval is 0.5s [12:39] which is silly b ecause mroe often than not that ends up in inaccurate readings [12:39] youll get 300K/s for hafl the second [12:39] and 0 the other half [12:39] (meaning 150K/s) [12:39] and i just saw taht happen [12:39] happens with netspeed applet too [12:39] iptraf rulez [12:39] ivoks: indeed, how the hell did you not knwo about it? ;p [12:39] Lathiat: we/you could change that interval in a patch :) [12:39] Lathiat: i did know about it, but never used it [12:39] dholbach: mmm, bwm-ng is good [12:40] dholbach: it seems actually accurate, bwm had a habbit of not being accurate [12:40] Lathiat: my tools were ettercap and sniffit [12:40] ivoks: :) [12:40] now are those + iptraf :) [12:40] of course, nmap too [12:41] Lathiat: bwm-ng -t 1 :) [12:41] ivoks: you can increase it when its runnign too [12:41] but the default being 0.5s is silly :) [12:41] ah well... [12:42] poker3d builds too :/ (noise, noise, noise :) [12:44] ah, time to go... [12:44] have a nice day :) [12:44] 2.4.27 kernel finally build on 386 :) [12:44] i'll get back to ftbs later this day [12:44] later today... urgh === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.93.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fred@canuts.taonix.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] could somebody check if the package fixes (not the NEW stuff) on REVU got uploaded? === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-104-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:24] pef: around? [01:29] dholbach: yes [01:30] pef: could you elaborate on the kvpnc update? [01:30] pef: does it have fixes we want to have? [01:31] dholbach: nothing critical as far as I looked in the latest cvs entries [01:31] pef: you think it is wise to get it in now? [01:32] dholbach: the 0.8 release does not correct critical things [01:32] janimo: had a look at xfce4-taskmanager - could you tell the maintainer to take care of the stuff i noted? [01:33] dholbach: just minors changes and fixes : http://home.gna.org/kvpnc/en/changelog.html [01:33] pef: does the old release work fine or should we do the upgrade to make things nicer for people? or wait for dapper rather? [01:33] dholbach, will do thanks [01:33] he's markuman btw === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.207.45.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:34] janimo: ahhh ok [01:34] dholbach: is it an expensive process to upgrade to the last version ? [01:34] pef: wow that's a load of *fixes* [01:35] pef: no, not expansive, but if it breaks things, that's bad so short before release [01:35] janimo: is markuman well-integrated into the xfce team? [01:35] dholbach, he's new [01:35] about a week old :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.207.45.254] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:36] dholbach: unfortunately I cannot test all features (cisco tunnels, openswan, etc), so I can't be sure something isn't broken [01:36] and this is his first package [01:36] janimo: then try to integrate him into the team nicely :) [01:36] dholbach, I am ;) [01:36] :) [01:37] pef: could you talk to riddell about the update then? [01:37] dholbach: I will do it right now [01:37] ok === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.93.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] dholbach: he will look between two kde compilations ;) I will keep you informated [01:40] pef: if he's fine with it, he can just upload it [01:40] pef: and MAN take care of becoming a MOTU (attending the meetings) - we WANT you :) [01:41] :] === ryu [n=chris@p5487E53E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] next motu meeting is post release, isn't it ? [01:42] i rather meant the CC meeting (to become a member) and the TB meeting to get uploading privileges (and be a MOTU), but it would be nice to have you in MOTU meetings as well :) [01:42] and yes, it's post-release [01:42] janimo: get another approval of xubuntu-artwork - you have mine [01:43] revu? [01:43] yes [01:43] dholbach: I would be glad to be a MOTU, but I'm not sure to have enough time [01:44] pef: you do more work than some approved MOTUs [01:44] dholbach, thanks :) [01:44] de rien :) === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] you rock [01:45] i try to do my best :) [01:45] dholbach: ooh..if you think i'm able to become a MOTU, I will seriously think about it :) [01:45] don't forget to sleep though :) [01:45] haha janimo [01:46] pef: Riddell will be grateful to have you working in the kubuntu world === Riddell will be [01:46] :D [01:47] I'm not very skilled in c++, I think it's a big problem to help with qt/kde [01:48] nah you just sortof muddle your way through [01:49] most kde devs do 8) [01:49] so how do i make the xubuntu usplash work isntead of the defaul tone? [01:49] Treenaks: haha [01:50] hrm, well the image is stretched, and doesnt seem to have an area for text or the progress bar [01:51] Lathiat, wait till it's uploaded [01:51] till whats uploaded? [01:52] then do dpkg-reconfigure --config usplash-artwork.so [01:52] dholbach: [13:42] i rather meant the CC meeting (to become a member) and the TB meeting to get uploading privileges (and be a MOTU), but it would be nice to have you in MOTU meetings as well :) I'm already and approved Ubuntu member, so I can apply to MOTU membership now ? [01:52] oh i seee how the usplash artwork is changed, it uses alternatives [01:52] xubuntu-artwork is not yet uplaoded [01:52] janimo: im looking at it from revu [01:52] pef yeah [01:52] oh ok [01:52] you needed a second approval no? [01:52] Lathiat, yes :) [01:52] so build the deb and install it [01:53] i did :) [01:53] then dpkg-reconfigure should do it [01:53] or maybe a new initramfs too? I forgot :( [01:54] yeh new initramfs [01:54] brb [01:54] dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r ` [01:54] but first set it with alternatives === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.107] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] Lathiat beware it's not too nice now but there's anew image pending in the queue === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.107] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089F84E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] janimo: ok package is fine [01:57] janimo: image isnt great [01:57] janimo: if theres a new one, rock :) [01:57] when can i see the new one? [01:58] Riddell: could it be that everything in the KDE world is built with --rpath on amd64? [01:58] hrm, wesnoth 1.0 [01:59] dholbach: if could be but that sounds slightly insane [01:59] dholbach: you'll be pleased to know I just took delivery of an amd64 5 minutes ago so I'll be able to investigate [01:59] ROCK [01:59] Riddell: it's just that i saw it in nearly all the kde stuff i reviewed [01:59] --rpath? [02:00] Riddell: the kde/qt buildsystem gives you a --disable-rpath (which is good), it just doesnt seem to work on amd64 [02:01] Lathiat: search for binary-or-shlibs-defines-rpath (which is the corresponding lintian warning) [02:02] siretart: about? [02:02] siretart: my password isnt working for revu, and gpg decryption reveals nothing [02:03] Lathiat, http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/5786/usplash1jn.png [02:03] it is not very much like edu/ku but close [02:04] janimo: oh, sexy [02:04] will let the artist know and if needed he'll tweak it [02:04] janimo: might be nice to add the little progress bar backgroudn like in the official one now [02:04] Jozsef Mak of the art team === spacey_ki [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] hmmisn't the blak space the scroll background? [02:04] yeh but theres a progress bar [02:04] and in the official ojen [02:04] one [02:04] it now has a background [02:04] outlining it [02:04] (not essential, but nice) [02:05] just gives an idea of where the progress bar is progrssing to [02:05] aha I'll take a look thanks [02:05] and thanks for reviewing it ;) [02:05] nps, im happy with it [02:05] i cant comment on revu tho [02:05] since my accts borked === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.107] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] well if you vote for it it's ok I think, we have these logs to prove it :) === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.107] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=markuman@p50924E92.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] janimo: yep === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.93.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.107] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-90-162.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@194-152-194-237.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] oh :) [02:21] Rejected: Unknown distribution `breey'. [02:21] :) [02:23] ivoks, you're already anticipating beyond dapper :) [02:27] hehe yeah [02:29] ivoks: haha [02:32] guys, i'm way ahead :) [02:33] there, fixed netatalk is in :) === ivoks works too much with netatalk to leave broken netatalk in favourite distro :) [02:35] heh [02:35] so, wesnoth 1.0 [02:35] seems to work fine [02:35] our version isnt *too* far off it [02:35] anyone violently disagree to syncing it? [02:36] Lathiat: it someone does, he would be gently silent :) [02:36] dholbach: ? [02:36] ajmitch: ? === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC1121.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] how much testing did it get? === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-48-178.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] Lathiat: need wesnoth 1.0 [02:38] dholbach: nothing i just started looking at it, it was released 2nd oct [02:39] it compiles etc fine [02:39] rus fine, plays fine [02:39] *runs [02:39] i'll check debbugs [02:39] must be able to play online [02:39] Yagisan: online play in 1.0? [02:39] esp for the ubuntuforums wesnoth matches [02:40] 1 bug about not being able to change language ingame [02:40] but thats hardly critical [02:41] Lathiat: usually when the version changes - it won't connect to online servers [02:41] Yagisan: did you test wesnoth 1.0? [02:41] dholbach: when it downloads I will [02:41] it'd be cool to put the packages up, so yagisan (wesnoth pro) can test it [02:41] dholbach: I suck so bad it's not funny (and my isp capped me :( _ [02:41] Yagisan: do you want the compiled packages? [02:42] Lathiat: source (I'm amd64) [02:42] packages.debian.org/wesnoth [02:42] i made no changes [02:42] I think wesnoth should be part of ubuntu-desktop [02:42] :) [02:42] haha === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] thanks === MojOrow [n=hbecker@d150-37-128.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-175-17.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@DSL01.83.171.164.64.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:49] hi folks [02:50] hey sistpoty === ivoks hates promise [02:57] i will have to install redhat9 [02:58] so very very thankful we're working on rolling out ubuntu here [02:58] :) [02:58] the very notion of running the local highly customised but still redhat9 distribution fills me with the fear [03:02] problem is... [03:02] i have this stopid raid controler [03:02] from promise [03:02] and stopid promise doesn't support 2.6 kernel, nor any other distribution but redhat9 and suse9 [03:02] their source for driver is... crap [03:03] and i don't have time to fix it... i need this machine working yesterday [03:03] ivoks: raid 1, 5 ?? [03:03] 5 [03:03] i will try one more thing with debian/ubuntu, and if that doesn't work, redhat it is.. [03:03] not cause i like redhat, but cause i hate promise [03:04] ivoks: why not copy the data to another box - and use the promise controller as a glorified ide/scsi/sata controller ? [03:04] ivoks: I've been in that same situation :( [03:05] put in software raid and copy back ? [03:05] Yagisan: i can do that with sx6000? [03:05] Yagisan: make it simple IDE controler? [03:05] ivoks: I have absolutely no idea === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-175-17.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] most seem to be able to work like that though [03:06] i2o doesn't work either [03:06] :( [03:07] Yagisan: i will check out if that's possible [03:07] Yagisan: ah... it won't work [03:07] Yagisan: it's not that linux doesn't get RAID, but it doesn't detect controller [03:07] Yagisan: so, whatever is attached to controller, i can't see it, be it RAID or one single disk [03:08] ivoks: ah - you have the "new" firmware [03:08] yep :( [03:08] zyga: there are quite some ruby packages on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseFTBFS === xerxas [n=xerxas@186.107.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] dholbach: checking [03:10] zyga: mightr be worth to investigate: 1) if it built later again on our boxes, or 2) if debian fixed it [03:10] this is why ubuntu must go prime time... [03:10] dholbach: s/one source package, may binary packages/...many.../ [03:10] oh right [03:11] ivoks: ok - from my quick googling it seems that ac was supposed to look at that last september [03:12] ivoks: debian is a no-go ? it has 2.4.x [03:12] dholbach: uhhh... finding out 'which ruby package ftbfs is not a simple question with all those directories' [03:12] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=731 anyone to sponsor upload? ;) [03:12] which source package is it? [03:13] sistpoty: will look [03:13] dholbach: thx... also it's nothing but an ugly hack ;) [03:13] Yagisan: it's no-go [03:13] Yagisan: you have to build that module with debian headers - that i did [03:14] Yagisan: but then i get to many unresolved... bla. bla... bla [03:14] Yagisan: i'm fighting with that for 5 days now [03:14] ivoks: use a vanilla kernel [03:14] zyga: which source package? [03:14] Yagisan: i allways do that :) [03:14] Yagisan: i tried 5 kernels [03:14] Yagisan: that source driver isn't written for vanilla kernel [03:14] Yagisan: it's written for redhat/suse kernels [03:14] dholbach: /me needs to know which packages to look at [03:15] Yagisan: old RH, SSE kernels [03:15] Yagisan: it's shitty controller and I'm not going to spend a minute more on it [03:15] ivoks: grab the redhat kernel source - patch with promise - make-kpkg [03:16] Yagisan: there is no patch :) [03:16] ivoks: what do you use the box for ? [03:17] backup [03:18] sistpoty: done [03:18] zyga: i thought you were interested in ruby stuff [03:18] ivoks: I've just had a look around about that card - and I have only one word for you - ebay === zoot_ [n=zoot@rrba-146-98-06.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] Yagisan: :) [03:19] dholbach: I am - I'm just not familiar with finding out exactly which packages I need to look at yet :D [03:19] dholbach: thx :) === Yagisan is glad he uses software raid 5 [03:19] hi! i'm trying to get kiosk mode working on the standard xfce-4.2.2 install on breezy, but adding [xfce4-panel] \nCustomizePanel=root in /etc/xdg/xfce4/kiosk/kioskrc has no effect. this works on my other slackware boxes. any pointers? [03:20] ivoks: seriously - if you can - get rid of that card. I'm seeing awful stories in the suse forums [03:20] Yagisan: it's ugly if you use i2o [03:21] it's crap, i know [03:21] Yagisan: but I'm not the one to decide.. :) [03:21] ivoks: yep - they go the spec wrong (and their service was crap) [03:22] ivoks: your not ? doesn't anyone listen to your technical advice ? [03:22] Yagisan: i created raid5 with 3TB on i386, i can do everything, but this shit... man! :( [03:22] Yagisan: sure it does... === bipolar [n=bipolar@146.145.26.90] has joined #ubuntu-motu === foka [n=foka@221.217.209.73] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] well, got to go... [03:24] i'm heading to 1GB pipe to d/l rh9 :( [03:24] ivoks: is there data on that system ? [03:24] wouldn't it be great if VPN would provide you speed with IP addresses of a host? :) [03:25] Yagisan: on what system? with sx6000? no [03:25] ivoks: ah - what sort of load is it expected to handle ? [03:25] Yagisan: well...it will be mail server+backup [03:26] ivoks: cpu ? [03:26] Yagisan: ah...darn.... RH uses sendmail [03:26] ram ? [03:26] fsck!!!! [03:26] ivoks - I have an idea [03:26] Yagisan: i will change that shit :) [03:26] ivoks: any distro can use whatever you want it to [03:26] havoc: i know ;) [03:26] :) [03:27] ivoks: go to petty cash - help youself - go to electronics store - G'day 3 pci ide cards thanks [03:27] :) [03:27] Yagisan: not nad idea [03:27] bad [03:27] ivoks: stick in box - ebay promise crap - refill petty cash [03:28] ivoks: make sure the are the two port models - stick everything on master and your sweet [03:29] ivoks: about $150au all up (includes coffee on the way back :) ) [03:29] :) [03:30] well, see you guys... [03:30] ivoks: My RAID is 1 PATA + 2 SATA drives - software [03:30] thanks for advice [03:30] no worries ivoks [03:30] Yagisan: i have couple of RAIDs [03:30] good luck [03:30] Yagisan: all kinds, mirror, soft mirror, 5, soft 5 [03:30] even linear :) [03:31] bye [03:31] ivoks: I'm just a small business - I can't afford more (I even have 2 more PATA ports - but the driver is 2.6.13 :( ) [03:31] damm - too slow === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ryu [n=chris@p5487EA5B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] is crimsun around? === mbreit [n=mo@p548B254D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thesaltydog [n=fabio@host190-176.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] ogra, ping [03:46] thesaltydog, ? === bddebian [n=bddebian@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] Heya gang [03:51] hey bddebian :) === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-104-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:53] Morning Daniel [03:54] hi bddebian [03:55] ok, what is top prio atm? should i go for ftbfs or finish haskell-transition first? [03:56] reprise: of those just on, anyone with experience with kiosk mode? (xfce on ubuntu breezy) [03:56] crimsun or Riddell: who of you two was working on getting a musicbrainz/libtunepimp package with mp3 support? [03:58] sistpoty: whatever you like better :) [03:59] Lathiat, dholbach: wesnoth seems fine to me - I'd sync it (but I'm not a MOTU) [03:59] Yagisan: thanks for double-checking [04:00] Lathiat: go! :) [04:00] dholbach: ack ;) [04:00] slomo_: not I [04:00] slomo_: if you did that it would be great [04:00] dholbach: heh - I love the excuse to play :) [04:01] "no mom, this time it's for a good cause!" [04:01] :) [04:01] btw.: is it safe to fire up two pbuilder in parallel (i.e. pbuildering two packages?)? [04:01] sistpoty: i did 4 :) [04:01] dholbach: wow [04:03] dholbach: actually - it's no honey I'm working [04:03] sistpoty: I have 3-4 going at once [04:03] sistpoty: gets choppy around 6 [04:04] Yagisan: i think i start with two... my machine is quite old (duron 1300) ;) [04:04] Riddell: ok, but someone already told me about that... i'll create universe packages for the two [04:04] Riddell: this evening or tomorrow [04:04] slomo_: thank you [04:04] Heya sistpoty, slomo_, Riddell, Yagisan :-) [04:05] sistpoty: I had one of those (I could do 3 depending on the packages) - It overheated and shorted out :( [04:05] G'day bddebian [04:06] sistpoty: shortly before my duron died - I had it run all of main through pbuilder - that was interesting [04:07] dholbach: and it could be even in main... it just can't be shipped with the cds... so i could simply patch the main packages we have to build two binary packages... one with mp3, one without... but that's probably a too big change for breezy now... [04:07] Yagisan: i had mine up to 78 degrees once... but then i decided to buy a better fan ;) (58 degrees currently) === Tonio- [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] slomo_: if you could discuss this with somebody else in #u-devel, i'd be grateful [04:08] slomo_: because i'm not sure about what to ship/not-ship - and main will be tough [04:08] dholbach: yes but not now ;) i have to go shopping now... maybe this evening or tomorrow [04:08] have fun :) [04:08] dholbach: libmad and stuff are already in main... so we have everything we need there ;) we just can't ship it on cds [04:08] sistpoty: I'd had a very hot spell - so that contributed. otherwise my duron was nice [04:09] dholbach: thanks :) [04:10] Is there a meta packages that provides libXau et al? Should xlibs-dev provide that? [04:11] anyone have any links on how to set up distcc and ccache with pbuilder ? === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] hi [04:13] decision has beed made [04:13] Yagisan: thanks for solution :) [04:14] Heya ivoks [04:14] hey === sebest_ [n=sebest@224.245.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sebest_ is now known as sebest === j^ [n=j@e178056067.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:20] bddebian: libxau-dev [04:22] dholbach: ok [04:22] bddebian: use dlocate :) [04:22] dholbach: I knew that, I meant a meta package that privided libxau, libxaw, libxext, etc :-) [04:23] dholbach: requested [04:23] bddebian: apt-cache rdepends libxau-dev :) [04:23] Lathiat: super [04:23] now back to gl transition [04:23] Bahh :-) [04:23] whats happening with the haskell (ghc) stuff? [04:23] Lathiat: What needs a gl transition yet? [04:23] is ghc5 now bootstrapped? [04:24] bddebian: theres 4 things [04:24] ok, ghc5 hasnt been fixed [04:24] bah [04:24] ghc6 was tho [04:24] bddebian: boson-base, felt, ghc5, cl-sdl, libgtkada2, ncbi-tools6, python-visual, sage [04:24] bddebian: i'm lookign at them all now [04:26] Lathiat: Boson-base is severely broken with gcc4 [04:26] b oh? [04:26] bddebian: is there an upstraem fix? [04:26] can it be built with 3.3? [04:28] Lathiat: Upstream ftbfs also from what I hear [04:28] mm, no debian fixes [04:28] bddebian: ah, sucky [04:28] There is a .11 version upstream I think [04:28] I haven't tried with gcc-3.4 [04:28] Lathiat: ignore ghc5 it should be morgued... (debian morgues it as well) [04:28] anything interesting from: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=boson-base? [04:28] sistpoty: oh ok [04:28] ivoks: glad I could help [04:29] yes, debian C++ transition [04:29] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=327934 [04:29] no progress tho [04:31] might be psosible to do g++-3.4 === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] um... [04:38] saslauthd has a bug :) [04:38] in debian :) [04:38] and in ubuntu, too [04:40] slomo_: not me, at least not actively [04:46] ivoks: sorry can't help with that one [04:47] hi crimsun: tracked you down here :) need help with kiosk mode - can't get it to work (breezy) === comadreja [n=comadrej@pdpc/supporter/active/comadreja] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] Yagisan: haha np [04:48] Yagisan: i know that one :) [04:48] ivoks: so what cards are you getting ? [04:49] zoot_: general question? -> #ubuntu [04:49] Yagisan: didn't thing of that yet... [04:50] crimsun: no-one there to help. have kiosk mode running perfectly on slackware boxes, so my config is fine - unless the ubuntu pkg uses a diff location for kioskrc? [04:50] this is xfce related [04:50] and i see you're down as an admin for xfce on ubuntu ;) [04:51] ivoks: ok - don't get ite8212 based cards - the need a driver from 2.6.13 that was too late to be backported from breezy [04:51] zoot_: try asking in #xubuntu-devel, too. I'm sorry to punt on you at the moment like this, but I'm packing for a drive to Atlanta [04:51] k, thx [04:51] Yagisan: don't worry (i can allways put my own kernel) [04:52] does any one knows were i can get rhel4? [04:52] dholbach: Are those FTBFs's supposed to be in order of "importance" ? [04:52] ivoks: yeah - but if you need to install on it, it's a pain [04:52] ivoks: rhel4 == white box linux [04:52] bddebian: yeah, popularity [04:52] bddebian: the information on popcon might be a bit stale, but yes, it's supposed to be ranks === hubH read planet ubuntu [04:53] mouahhhh [04:53] Yagisan: i know that, but i have rhn account [04:53] ivoks: there is another one too, but I forgot it's name [04:53] "Get out of jail free" [04:53] Guess I'll look at gpdf [04:53] ivoks: oh - I thought you meant for "free" [04:53] whitebox linux is not a good thing [04:53] all packages are done by one guy [04:54] centos is a better free rhel [04:54] dredg: thanks - that's the one that I forgot the name of [04:54] bddebian: evince [04:54] Yagisan: rhel IS free [04:54] Yagisan: rhn is not [04:54] ivoks: not binaries [04:54] Yagisan: yup, even binaries :) [04:54] ivoks: you should be able to login to rhn and download the iso [04:55] dredg: i know... [04:55] ivoks: hmm- tell red hat asia-pac [04:55] Yagisan: technically there is nothing stopping ivoks burning a copy of rhel4 and giving it to me for free === Cimmerian [n=crom@cm-80.111.83.005.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:55] dredg: well... [04:55] dredg: trade mark issues :) === tritium_ [n=rimbert@mip-lab4.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:55] dredg: I know - and if the support was good - I'd pay for it [04:56] i will d/l evaluation copy [04:56] and put in my account [04:56] but there is a reason I use ubuntu - better support [04:56] Yagisan: er, sure [04:56] - and the people are nicer [04:56] Yagisan: ah, this isn't about better support or anything [04:56] Yagisan: my copmany is paying me RHCE, so... :) [04:56] if rhel dies at 4am i want someone i can phone and demand that they fix it [04:57] dredg: that will be available for ubuntu too, soon :) [04:57] dredg: red hat f*cked up several largeish installs here - the clients went back to windows [04:57] dredg: even now you can buy support from canonical [04:57] ivoks: sure. i was just using it as an example. we're unlikely to need support for any machines :) === ivoks is thinkig to create pay-for-support for ubuntu [04:58] at least here... [04:58] if something dies outright we can just zap the install and start again :) === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:59] dredg: It kinda sucks to see linux failure in major newspapers - with red hat cited as the vendor [05:00] Yagisan: i'll do ubuntu desktop installation in one company very soon [05:00] Yagisan: arround 20 computers [05:00] congrats ivoks === dipnlik [n=dipnlik@201-0-25-173.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:00] Yagisan: they will migrate all machines to linux, except one... need for AutoCAD [05:00] hubH: ?? [05:00] ivoks: I promote it to my customers [05:01] Yagisan: ? [05:01] bddebian: gpdf is crap. use Evince [05:01] ivoks: I promote ubuntu migrations to my customers [05:01] ivoks: we're working on making ubuntu our supported linux desktop [05:01] bddebian: or xpdf [05:01] hubH: gpdf is on the FTBFS list [05:01] hubH: I'm talking aboutfixing FTBFSs :) [05:02] ivoks: unfortunately, due to the way we do things, it requires a bit of hacking :) [05:02] FTBFS? [05:02] what that? [05:02] hubH: Fails to Build From Source [05:02] ah [05:02] bddebian: compiling boson 0.11, so far so good [05:03] a bazillion warnins [05:03] but no errors yet [05:03] ivoks: where 'a bit' means 'quite a lot' :) [05:03] Lathiat: Awesome, thx [05:03] Lathiat: with gcc4? [05:03] bddebian: indeed [05:03] dredg: like what? [05:04] ivoks: not allowed say [05:04] bddebian: doh, failed. :) [05:04] Heh :-) [05:04] suffice to say we use patched kerberos, ldap and nfsv4 everywhere [05:04] looks fixable [05:05] and a whole load of custom apps that work with that setup [05:05] dredg: ok :) === zakame [n=zakame@210.213.70.186] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] dholbach: ping [05:05] ivoks: pong [05:06] dholbach: will you sister come to UBZ? :) [05:06] i don't think so :) [05:06] ivoks: stop trying to pick up [05:06] ah... :( [05:06] :)) [05:06] hehe [05:06] Heya zakame [05:07] dredg: patched kerberos and ldap in what way? [05:07] torkel: no comment [05:07] bddebian: hi [05:07] hi guys [05:07] crimsun: sorry to bug you, but not a soul is on #xubuntu-devel. if u get a chance, let me know where else i may find help - have posted to xfce list but a bit pointless as kiosk mode works fine when i configure it on other distros... hmmm - will plug away.. === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.107] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] torkel: i'm not sure just what i'm allowed talk about so i'm just going to shut up now :) [05:10] dredg: sure. I'm intrested in what way and why you have to patch kerberos and ldap though :-) === Lathiat kicks torkel [05:10] torkel: i'm not sure myself, i just know it has to be done :) i've not been introduced to the real voodoo yet [05:11] How does debian/watch work? === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.107] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] bddebian: you give url with regexp in debian/watch and then you can "uscan" which pretty much downloads the new version [05:12] dredg: where do you work ? [05:12] NSA :) [05:12] sistpoty: It's already there so I just run uscan? [05:12] bddebian: once elmo syncs the packge for me, I just rebuild and upload? [05:12] bddebian: yes [05:12] package [05:13] tritium_: You shouldn't have to do anything, just check the buildlogs and make sure it builds on all archs :-) [05:13] Lathiat: what have i done now? except beeing OT? [05:13] oh, that's even better, thanks, bddebian [05:13] tritium_: Anytime :) [05:13] ivoks: your shitting me right ? [05:14] yeah :) [05:14] sistpoty: How do I know if it did anything? I got no output from uscan [05:15] bddebian: you didn't? [05:15] sistpoty: Nope, just came back to the CL === nybble [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:16] bddebian: then it probably didn't do a thing... I'll retry it with a package here, to make sure i didn't talk crap ;) [05:17] bddebian: did you do it in top-level-src-dir? you could also try --verbose [05:18] Yagisan: google [05:22] sistpoty: I'll try verbose, thx [05:23] sistpoty: It's OK, there was no newer version :-( [05:23] Shit, so I guess it's a manual gcc4 fix :-( [05:24] dredg: you work at google ? [05:25] Yagisan: correct [05:25] :) [05:26] not quite NSA :) [05:27] dredg: must have lots of interesting toys there ... === blueyed_ [n=daniel@iD4CC1121.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:28] ok, downloading AS iso [05:28] ETA 40min :/ [05:28] my webpage was page ranked 1st once [05:28] Yagisan: some yeah :) [05:29] dredg: So when is the high profile switch to Ubuntu :) [05:29] i'm not sure google has any plans with ubuntu :) [05:29] they are partners with sun now :) [05:30] ubuntu on sunfires ! :) [05:30] no comment... [05:30] ;) === moyogo_ [n=moyogo@83pc104.ucu-vb.uu.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] this brings as to [05:31] dredg has nothing with google :) [05:32] Yagisan: it won't be that high profile :) it's not like we're rolling it out on the servers or anything :) [05:32] imposter! [05:32] and as for the sun thing, last time i checked that was a toolbar distribution deal with java [05:32] yeah... [05:33] it would be great if google would stand behind ubuntu... [05:33] but... that's in some other parallel universe :) [05:33] Maybe we can get a changeling infiltrator at the highest ranks of google :) [05:34] one question... [05:34] dredg: what's the best desktop distribution? === zakame_ [n=zakame@210.213.70.11] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] ivoks: in my opinion, ubuntu. i've been using it for about a year [05:34] dredg: ok, it's irrelevant if you work for google or not, you are one of us :) [05:35] ivoks: erm ok :) [05:35] Guys I don't want to be a jerk becaues I usually don't care but can you take this elsewhere? [05:35] like ubuntu-devel :) [05:35] bddebian: you are right... [05:37] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=732 (hat) anyone willing to upload? [05:37] hi [05:37] sistpoty: looking at it [05:37] huhu siretart [05:37] thx... it will take some time to build ;) [05:38] I'm just revu-build'ing it ;) [05:38] hehe === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:39] um... [05:39] xlibmesa-dev is now...? [05:39] siretart: in case revu-builds fail, some strange things happen (imo)... i got "*.diff" and other files starting with "*." lying around [05:39] sistpoty: do you know when the next TB meeting is? I assume it wasn't yesteday, was it? === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [05:40] sistpoty: yeah, right [05:40] ah... [05:40] siretart: no, mdz said he didn't get reply fast enough... so i assume it will be the regularly one [05:40] thats how revu-build is implemented. it's a small shell script with some redirects [05:42] w00t [05:42] 3 package advocated [05:42] bddebian: hmm, seems that lighttpd's license is a bit problematic, imo... [05:43] if we have build1, that becomes build2 or ubuntu1? [05:43] ivoks: If you change build-deps it's ubuntu1 if you just rebuild it's build2 [05:43] ok [05:43] ivoks: depends. did you change anything else thath debian/changelog, ubuntu1 [05:44] right, time to go home [05:44] dredg: bye [05:44] later [05:49] wow... i just fixed a package i haven't known, which i find extremely useful :) [05:49] sistpoty: :) [05:49] :) === cassidy [n=cassidy@28-81.245.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:49] me too [05:49] chromium :) === sistpoty fixed seahorse [05:52] ok, leave packages from r-z to me... [05:52] i'll do that, ok? [05:52] so we don't do double work.. [05:55] ivoks: ok [05:56] all right [05:57] <\sh> moins [05:57] hi \sh [05:57] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=733 (seahorse) anyone to upload? [05:58] <\sh> seahorse? it's in? [05:59] it ftbfs'd... [05:59] <\sh> sistpoty: did u merge it or is it a new release? [05:59] sync from debian, and had to fiddle with the configure script (still ftbfs'd) [05:59] <\sh> and now everything is ok? [06:00] it works :)... i successfully deleted my key:( [06:00] :) [06:00] <\sh> wow === azeem [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:01] <\sh> sistpoty: I'll upload for you [06:02] thx \sh [06:02] Hi. ghemical_1.90-2 now built fine on ia64 and amd64 in unstable, is there a chance to have that synced for Breezy? [06:02] sistpoty: oh. new upstream of hat? [06:03] siretart: yep... the older one isn't compatible to our ghc6-version [06:04] siretart: as in will compile, but won't be able to trace haskell stuff afterwards [06:04] sistpoty: okay [06:04] siretart: ogra told me it is ok ;) [06:04] super [06:04] <\sh> sistpoty: u had a backup of your key? [06:05] on the keyserver... but it was my 2nd key which i actually wanted to revoke or s.th. :) [06:06] sistpoty: new key? I'm next week all day at uni, if you need a signature ;) [06:06] :) [06:07] siretart: for sistpoty@ubuntu.com... but with seahoarse i found out that i can use my old key and add an user id... so i didn't need the new one [06:07] siretart: however i did --send-key the new one already. how can i delete that now? [06:08] noway [06:08] damn ;) === zoot_ [n=zoot@rrba-146-98-06.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:11] siretart: quake3 source now splits into quake3 and quake3-server packages. i'll upload the new package this evening [06:15] hi Fuddl :) [06:15] Fuddl: cool! [06:16] Fuddl: welcome to MOTUGames, btw ;) [06:16] siretart: yepp, splitting quake3 was my final goal... phu... :) [06:16] good job [06:16] siretart: eh..... why "welcome"? i just did this ONE package, ok? [06:16] :) [06:17] huhu Fuddl [06:17] hi sistpoty [06:18] okay, hat looks fine, uploading [06:19] cool, thx :) === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:28] OK, xprint-xprintorg package SUCKS too === cassidy [n=cassidy@28-81.245.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:35] is there an netinstall for ubuntu ? [06:36] xerxas: AFAIK no [06:36] xerxas: I asked the same question some time ago [06:36] xerxas: you can install debian and then upgrade to ubuntu (so to speak) [06:39] or use a debstroop ; base-config ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [06:39] :) [06:39] <\sh> netinstall? [06:40] <\sh> there is a netinstall [06:41] <\sh> I'm using it for my laptop [06:41] <\sh> (pxeboot) === foka [n=foka@221.217.209.73] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:42] <\sh> xerxas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet [06:42] <\sh> xerxas: if it helps you [06:42] \sh, thanks [06:42] will take look === zyga learned a new thing === zyga is thinking about a rougelike+mud game for developers ;) [06:43] you have compiled your first package [06:43] you gain 10 experience points ;-) [06:44] :) [06:45] Heh === bddebian would be at -10,000 XP [06:46] but it would be quite boring [06:46] only bugs to squash [06:46] hehe === j^ [n=j@gw.bootlab.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] <\sh> anyone needs syncs? [06:49] Oh, kinda like MOTU work then.. ;-P [06:49] <\sh> I'm writing a mail to elmo [06:49] \sh: for dapper? [06:50] <\sh> for breezy [06:50] <\sh> we're not done with universe right now ;) [06:50] ah, no then :) [06:52] \sh: 17:58 < azeem> Hi. ghemical_1.90-2 now built fine on ia64 and amd64 in unstable, is there a chance to have that synced for Breezy? [06:53] <\sh> this is the haskell stuff? [06:53] no [06:54] <\sh> azeem: ok..putting it on my check list [06:54] <\sh> azeem: your email address which is whitelisted on -changes? [06:55] <\sh> azeem: and realname would be good as well ;) === \sh thinks I need a gcl sync as well [06:55] <\sh> regarding acl2 [06:56] my realname is Michael Banck. I am the maintainer of that package in Debian and noticed that it is unsynced in Breezy due to build failures in amd64. As the latest version now built on amd64, I suggested to sync it. [06:56] but it's not particularly important I guess [06:56] <\sh> azeem: everything we can fix is important [06:56] just a matter of priority :) === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-122-217.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:02] <\sh> somethings wrong with my dsl line [07:05] bddebian: are you working on gpdf? === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:09] re [07:09] wb [07:09] <\sh> hey dholbach [07:09] hey \sh, thanks for the flowers in your blog entry :) [07:10] i was very pleased to read it :) === nybbled [n=nybble@d36-29-58.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:10] sistpoty: Not at the moment. It's pretty jacked [07:10] wb dholbach [07:10] do you think it's reasonable to package firefox 1.5 beta builds and upgrade them often during dapper? [07:11] bddebian: i could try to fix it... unless you want to take it yourself ;) [07:11] <\sh> dholbach: oh no..I only wrote the truth :) [07:11] :)) [07:12] sistpoty: No, I'm at work, go for it :) [07:12] <\sh> and I will nerve elmo today with all sync mails ;) [07:12] bddebian: ack [07:12] \sh: Good, you can take my place ;-P [07:12] <\sh> bddebian: hehe...but I'm writing some [07:12] <\sh> honey words with my sync requests, like "have a nice weekend" [07:12] \sh: I try that too ;-) [07:13] <\sh> bddebian: yeah..but I'm leaving out the ",-)" [07:13] <\sh> after "have a nice weekend" [07:14] hehe [07:14] <\sh> bddebian: I mean, when you go to work during weekends and someone tells you "have a nice weekend" on friday... [07:15] <\sh> uh elmo is working :) [07:16] <\sh> and now I see, that Lathiat requested as well wesnoth ;) [07:16] 1.0? === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:21] <\sh> yes === azeem [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:28] \sh: See, he hates me :-) [07:31] <\sh> bddebian: no === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === scotth_lappyppc [n=scotth@157.182.194.24] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089F84E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dloda [n=dan@adsl-69-107-38-185.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:52] <\sh> cheers guys === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === dmk [n=dmk@host81-156-26-98.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:08] http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/debdiffs/gpdf_2.10.0-0ubuntu2_to_2.10.0-0ubuntu3.debdiff <- anyone to sponsor upload? [08:09] can do so [08:09] cool :) [08:10] sistpoty: hat got already built on i386 and amd64 ;) [08:10] yep... i'm only waiting for ppc ;) (ia64 imo has no ghc6 yet) [08:11] sistpoty: did so [08:11] thx === thierry_ [n=thierry@modemcable143.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ [n=mikhail@58.69.30.39] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:18] <\sh> azeem [08:18] <\sh> not here anymore === ryu [n=chris@p5487E9CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC1802.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:25] siretart: next quake3 upload to your revu-thing in the next hour :) === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:26] Fuddl: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=723 [08:27] siretart: eh... already fixed that yesterday [08:27] grrr... hat on ppc dep-waits for nhc98, and i dunno why. eventually this is because of hmake's or'd dependencies :( [08:28] :( [08:28] Fuddl: ah, in the next hour.. okay [08:28] whiprush: your post was funny about "Get out of jail" === fredix [n=fredix@105.73.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:29] whiprush: it is interesting that often the reason is "I have one of these Airport Extreme card and it does not work under linux" [08:29] nhc98 is a pita :)... hopefully we won't have to care for it much longer (it's discussed on debian to morgue it) [08:29] siretart: yepp, dist-upgrade to breezy is currently running [08:31] Fuddl: on your main system? cool! :) [08:31] <\sh_away> nick \sh [08:31] <\sh_away> bah [08:32] siretart: yeah, on MY system... uh... did i forget to mention vmware? ;) [08:38] lol: "The system has no more ptys. Ask your system administrator to create more." [08:39] I think I found a pbuilder problem [08:39] pbuilder claim that there is no libxml-parser-perl [08:39] sistpoty: lol [08:40] as "checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" fails [08:40] but intltool DEPEND on libxml-parser-perl === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:41] hubH: then fix that problem ;) maybe the configure[.in] is wrong? or missing build-dep? or outdated pbuilder? [08:42] sistpoty: well, the pbuilder as been setup yesterday [08:42] siretart: btw. what about those .desktop files? are they required for ubuntu? [08:42] sistpoty: checking for intltool >= 0.21... 0.33 found [08:43] sistpoty: so I question myself [08:43] note that I'm complaining I'm just trying to understand [08:43] <\sh> hubH: what is apt-get -s install intltool saying? [08:44] intltool is already the newest version. [08:44] hubH: try to look at configure.in (if configure is generated from it). maybe running the autotools (aclocal, autoconf...) to update files will do the trick [08:44] build find outside pbuilder [08:45] hubH: do you have "standard" autoconf installed? or a newer/older version? [08:45] sistpoty: then one in breezy [08:47] hubH: then i would try to (re)generate autotools files (see above) [08:49] Fuddl: there are required for the app beeing available in the kde/gnome menu. [08:49] Fuddl: we really do want them, but they are not a prequisite [08:51] siretart: work in progress[tm] .... === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-104-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d123016.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neighborlee [n=neighbor@d6-56.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=markuman@p50924E92.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1711.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:22] hi [09:23] siretart: do you think a think a build-conflict to nhc98 in hat will solve the dep-wait issue? [09:23] hi ivoks [09:23] siretart: hat definitely doesn't need nhc98 to build [09:23] so.. to inform you RHELAS4+update2 installation sucks and... [09:24] it doesn't autodetect my resolution [09:24] go ubuntu! :) [09:25] hehe [09:25] sistpoty: if a package is in dep-wait, you definitly need a buildd admin to kick the package [09:25] ok [09:25] lol, first update, first problems :) [09:25] sistpoty: dep-wait is a state of wanna-build and requires in the current implementation manual interaction in any case. new upload will not help [09:26] siretart: but will kicking it help w.o. making sure nhc98 gets drawn in? [09:27] Red Hat Network is currently experiencing technical difficulties. - so much about RHN... [09:27] argh... back to Ubuntu [09:27] will be back soon === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [09:39] sistpoty: is nhc98 installable and working on ppc? if not, it needs to be fixed first === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1057.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:40] siretart: I'll check... [09:41] siretart: no, it's i386 only... and it shouldn't be needed at all ;) [09:44] Fuddl: dscverify: invalid file length for quake3_1.33.SVN130.orig.tar.gz (wanted 7902070 got 0) [09:44] Validation FAILED!! [09:44] siretart: nnngrrrrr [09:44] Fuddl: did you use dput? [09:44] siretart: nope [09:45] Fuddl: it looks to me like the changesfile wasn't uploaded last. use dput to save headaches [09:45] hi [09:45] ok. if anyone has time we need a sync on mysql-admin. 1.1.3 is out and it's the only version that I've found that works to add user permisisons without major bugs. [09:45] btw... I HATE MS ACCESS..... [09:46] no kidding? :) === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar [09:46] siretart: checked the history in lftp, the command is correct, i didn't forget any files. and .dsc was the last file uploaded [09:47] siretart: btw, the file is still in incoming with the correct size [09:48] Fuddl: the CHANGES file needs to be uploaded last. not the dsc === ryu [n=chris@p5487E9CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] oops [09:48] :) [09:49] Fuddl: USE DPUT! [09:50] Fuddl: no need to reupload. did fix the mess for you on tiber.. [09:51] shall i cancel the upload? [09:51] yes [09:51] ah, you reuploaded. yes, you can cancel it [09:51] Fuddl: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=735 [09:52] hm... linda/lintian weren't too noisy [09:53] linda is outdated on tiber. known issue. [09:54] Fuddl: nice cleanup on debian/changelog, btw [09:54] grrr... gpdf failed on amd64 :( [09:54] siretart: because it got quite long during the last 24 hours? :) [09:54] Fuddl: ;) === ryu is now known as ryu|weg [09:55] siretart: i updated linda last night... [09:55] Fuddl: just curious, why is the quake3-server available for sparc and powerpc, too but not the quake3 package itself? [09:55] siretart: maybe it needs an update debian-policy as well? [09:56] sistpoty: does it work? last time i tried it, it didn't. there where some python exceptions.. [09:56] siretart: http://icculus.org/quake3/: "What works: PowerPC, we think." [09:56] Fuddl: and the server? [09:56] Fuddl: did you try it on your sparc? ;) [09:57] siretart: erm... sorry, haven't checked :( [09:57] siretart: somebody should test it on such hardware. no opengl: no problems for the server :) [09:57] sistpoty: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=735 does not show any linda output. seems to work [09:58] Fuddl: I'm talking about the server [09:58] ah. sure [09:59] hm. there are some opengl capable macs. perhaps someone should try ;) [10:00] yes, that was my idea, too. first try, then give free for other architectures. finding out by bugreports maybe.... "not that cool" ;) [10:01] hm... let's see if one of the sunnys will boot. i'm curious myself :) [10:02] *g* [10:02] anyone with amd64 to fix gpdf for that? ;) [10:03] sistpoty: whats the matter with gpdf? [10:03] siretart: ftbfs on ia64 and amd64 [10:03] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/gpdf/2.10.0-0ubuntu3/gpdf_2.10.0-0ubuntu3_20051007-1938-amd64-failed.gz [10:05] * Fix reading of AC adapter status from /proc/acpi to work with [10:05] recent (post 2002) kernels. [10:05] funny [10:06] Fuddl: advocated (see comment) [10:08] go quake3, go! :) === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-104-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu|weg is now known as ryu [10:19] Fuddl: if you find some other advocate, tell him to advocate http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=734 too! [10:19] (the -data package) [10:21] siretart: the question is where to find advocates! here? [10:22] Fuddl: I'd love to intensely test the package, but i'm no motu (yet) ;) [10:22] sistpoty: shame on you! :) [10:22] hehe [10:22] he is almost one :) [10:23] hm... but perhaps there are some others in here, interested in quake3 in breezy ;) [10:25] Fuddl: ppl here are busy with fixing malone bugs. we have order to not process NEW crack [10:26] sort of 'order' [10:26] siretart: actually there is a new target as well: UniverseFTBFS [10:26] ah [10:26] sistpoty: I think I have a fix for gpdf, just trying to build it [10:26] it was worth to give it a try... :) [10:26] siretart: cool, thx :) [10:27] siretart: not even warnings on i386-build... impossible for me ;) [10:27] at least no warnings where the errors are *G+ [10:27] sistpoty: thats a clear programming error [10:27] sistpoty: you cannot assume that void* fits in an int [10:28] sistpoty: thats only valid on 32bit archs [10:28] yep [10:28] damn... atlas3 is building forever :( [10:29] sistpoty: how are the lists generated? [10:29] siretart: dholbach did these... [10:29] okay [10:29] ... and trying to fix the int<->*void stuff leads straight to hell... === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0859.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] Fuddl: sometime it is sufficient to make the temporary variable in that method to long [10:31] sometimes, I know [10:32] What is the preferred route to getting a .deb into universe ? [10:32] siretart: i thought of that "little" mistake in the cube/sauerbraten engine... [10:32] upload to revu [10:32] I was asked by our project head to get our packages into ubuntu thus.. [10:32] tseng, hi there..may I ask where this revu is ? [10:32] dholbach, dholbach... :) [10:33] its in the topic [10:33] tseng, I read howto's online but I must have missed this revu you speak of ;( [10:33] dholbach: ping [10:33] im on the phone [10:33] neighborlee: /topic [10:33] checking [10:33] http://revu.tauware.de === Rotund [n=joe@d12-144.rb.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty fixes bug -ENOMEAL with make pizza... [10:35] tseng, is my login going to be my wiki username or do I have to create a new one... [10:35] create [10:35] ok [10:36] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU [10:36] yup thx [10:40] tseng, thank you for your assitance [10:40] np good luck [10:40] :) [10:40] what package are you working on btw [10:44] sorry was in annother channel [10:44] possible packages from : delta3d.org [10:45] we use it as our game engine thus [10:45] and I was asked if I"d try to get our packages into ubuntu [10:45] by one of the project leads behind the project [10:46] by one of the project leads [10:46] dain I need to eat something lol [10:48] gotta reboot for new services..bbs === neighborlee [n=neighbor@d6-56.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:05] siretart: still there? [11:09] mom [11:11] siretart: while i was smoking... i... made a desicion... i'll do the games stuff if you still need me [11:12] excellent! MOTUGames! :) [11:12] omg zorp === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:23] bbl === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-156-69.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] yay. gpdf builds on amd64 now :) [11:37] uploaded. now for compiler stuff === slomo_ [n=slomo@p5487FADA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dloda [n=dan@adsl-69-107-38-185.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fuddl [n=fuddl@p5494BF94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:59] fuddl: of course we need and want YOU! (wb, btw) [11:59] fuddl: it just that we are releasing in 1 week ;) === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu