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funkyHatmark_, did you see what ubotu said about ntfs?12:00
mark_funkyhat, I am still trying to get used to linux and before I completely switch over I am on a dual boot. My music is still on the NTFS partition. I did not just create one to put my music on so it would be a pain in the ass LOL12:00
graymanDark-Druid, he has warty i think -_-12:00
mark_ubotu read my last to funkyhat12:00
ubotumark_: I give up, what is it?12:00
Dark-Druidoh :)12:00
kbrooksubotu: playwithbot =~ s/play with me/play with me in the channel/12:00
ubotukbrooks: OK12:00
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funkyHatmark_, i'll have ubotu send it to you as a /msg12:00
Dark-Druidsorry i'm pretty new to ubuntu ...12:00
PhiniteI have a raid device in a server but I want to put Ubuntu on it.  unfortunately, after the os install, it simply doesn't boot correctly.  what do I need to look at?12:00
palhi, is there anyone here who has configured bochs ?12:01
tuxedo_kamenDark-Druid, I get this error: E: Impossvel encontrar o pacote j2sdk1.412:01
tuxedo_kamen <--- "impossible to find the package j2sdk1.4"12:01
funkyHat!tell mark_ about ntfs12:01
palhow do i configure it or where can i get config file for bochs?12:01
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mark_funkyhat thanks12:01
naliothubotu: tell mark_ about ntfs12:01
funkyHathe already got it nalioth12:01
naliothtuxedo_kamen: ubotu will help you12:01
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thalgHow can i install gdesklet in ubuntu whit APT-GET ???12:01
Phinitethalg: apt-get install ?12:02
graymantuxedo_kamen, erm. did you find out wich ubuntu you have?12:02
nalioththalg: "sudo apt-get install gdesklets"12:02
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Kartoffeltry with apt-cache search gdesklet if apt-get install can't find12:02
thalgOk,12:02
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green_earzhello and I hope some onecan help with my question. on the page >  http://www.tsf.org.za/index.php?option=content&task=blogsection&id=19   there a reference to " LearnLinux project " first pargrapha  but where do I find a link for this ? thanks all12:03
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guidansorry i still can't find  nautilus12:03
tuxedo_kamenhum... now I am havign a problem... despite clicking the download thing, the "Downloads" window is still empty!!! :|12:03
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Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, sorry i guess i can't really offer any more help on the subject as i am pretty new to ubuntu and not totally sure what versions of java each release has or at what repositories carry what java packages..12:03
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naliothtuxedo_kamen: check your download directory12:04
tuxedo_kamen:| where is the default one?12:04
Phiniteany help on booting to a highpoint 302?12:04
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naliothtuxedo_kamen: your home directory12:04
pgA-PIN-hey guys and gals could anyone tell me if I can run valve games on this linux OS? or do I have to pay for software to do it.12:04
PhiniteI'd rather not raid it as i'd like to use the drives fully and then back them up12:04
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=== keikoz gnight all
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mark_funkyhat, I have take the script you linked me to and saved it as a .sh file, which I think is what I was suppose to do. Can you confirm that?12:05
tuxedo_kamennalioth, ok, thanks, just found it!12:05
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naliothmark_: which script is that?12:05
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thalgNope, i think I have some other adress in my sourses.list, but what adress ???12:05
tuxedo_kamenhowever, how can I make the downloads appear in the "Downloads" window?12:05
funkyHatmark_, just save it as the same filename as it had originally, although saving it as a .sh file shouldn't hurt12:05
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funkyHatnalioth, the ntfs / fstab editor thingy12:05
naliothtuxedo_kamen: if the download only lasts half-second, it wont show up12:05
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poningrutuxedo_kamen: what are you talking about? in firefox?12:05
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pgA-PIN-any idea on running valve games ?12:06
tuxedo_kamenyeah, but more than 60 MB don't take half-second! :|12:06
naliothmark_: in *nix, it doesnt matter what suffix you use, but adding .sh to this on is ok (you still need to read it in a text editor)12:06
tuxedo_kamenponingru, yeah, i guess12:06
Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, depends on your connection :P12:06
mark_nalioth, funkyhat, I saved it as a .sh so now how do I run it12:06
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naliothtuxedo_kamen: did you get the file or the torrent?12:06
funkyHatmark_, read the file12:06
tuxedo_kamenfil,e 62 MB or something12:06
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kbrooksmark_: sh foo.sh12:06
funkyHatkbrooks, he needs to read it first :P12:06
naliothtuxedo_kamen: which ubuntu are you using? breezy or hoary?12:07
tuxedo_kamenhoary, I think12:07
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logan001101what is the backport to download LIRC12:07
pupilhow do I install jave runtime environment?12:07
mark_kbrooks, sadly I can't tell if you are helping or if that was a joke...12:07
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naliothtuxedo_kamen: did you open a terminal and type "lsb_release -a" ?12:07
Almindorhow can I get libc sources is there a package?12:07
_jason!tell pupil about javadeb12:07
mark_funkyhat, nalioth, I see now thanks12:07
kbrooksmark_: i was helping12:07
naliothubotu: tell pupil about javadeb12:07
logan001101what is the backport to download LIRC12:07
kbrooksfoo is just a example12:07
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tuxedo_kamen-_- now I can't open a console! >_<12:07
_jasonnalioth:  ha too slow12:07
tuxedo_kamenbrb, sorry12:07
funkyHatmark_, kbrooks was helping :)12:08
logan001101what is the backport to download LIRC12:08
mark_kbrooks, I figured, it would have been the first time I had been ridiculed by an ubuntu user - felt like I was trying to learn on red hat again12:08
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kbrooksfunkyHat: lag? ;)12:08
Almindorhow can I get libc sources is there a package?12:08
ojpdHELP!12:08
funkyHatkbrooks, only in my head12:08
logan001101HELP12:08
logan001101HELP12:08
logan001101what is the backport to download LIRC12:08
kbrooksojpd: ask12:08
ojpdcan anybody here help me please12:08
pgA-PIN-GAMES. I would like to run some Windows games on this linux OS . can anyone help me.12:08
pgA-PIN-I dont know how.12:08
kbrookslogan001101: dont repeat12:08
_jasonlogan001101:  if someone knows they will tell you12:08
ojpdI recently installed Breezy12:08
kbrooksojpd: and?12:08
ojpdand my resolution is only 640x48012:08
logan001101ok find12:08
kbrooksojpd: so set it12:09
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ojpdit sucks coz back when i was using warty and hoary12:09
tuxedo_kamenhi12:09
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ojpdi didnt have any probs12:09
tuxedo_kamenwhat was the command to see my version once again, please?12:09
the--dudhmm, ubuntu has no anon cvs?12:09
ojpdi cant set it coz the only option i have is 640x48012:09
green_earzhaa I back again I think i found what I need > http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/index.html  and  thanks all12:09
guidanhi guys i'm trying to look for nautilus cd burn, i can find the folder but i can find the icon to excute it12:09
naliothtuxedo_kamen: open a terminal and type "lsb_release -a"12:09
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eruinanyone seeing nautilus crash on synaptic upgrades?12:09
kbrookssystem ->  prefs -> screen res # tried that?12:09
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eruinmore specifically when applying changes?12:09
Kartoffel@pgA-PIN try wine12:09
kevogodojpd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from terminal12:09
ojpdyeps! Tried that!12:09
naliothguidan: see the File menu12:09
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tuxedo_kamenLSB Version:    n/a12:09
tuxedo_kamenDistributor ID: Ubuntu12:09
tuxedo_kamenDescription:    Ubuntu12:09
tuxedo_kamenRelease:        4.1012:09
tuxedo_kamenCodename:       warty12:09
ojpdok il try it now12:09
guidanyes12:10
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naliothtuxedo_kamen: dont paste in here12:10
the--dudthought I'd look into some bugs... see if I could make some patches12:10
kbrookstuxedo_kamen: pls dont paste in here12:10
tuxedo_kamenoh, ok, sorry -_-12:10
kbrookstuxedo_kamen: you have warty sounds like12:10
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naliothtuxedo_kamen: read what ubotu just sent you (and consider upgrading. hoary is stable now)12:11
tristanmikenalioth, that is a sweet command12:11
naliothtristanmike: which one is that?12:11
djjasonI have a small problem...I am trying to run a shell script I created using tcsh and the script runs java.....but I always get a permission denied on the java/bin directory but I thought I had allready taken care of the permissions12:11
icewtanyone happen to know if there's a way to tell wget to download all *.mp3 -files that are linked in a certain webpage?12:11
tristanmikenalioth, to see the version, etc.12:11
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kevogodOr you could wait until the 13th for Breezy.12:11
naliothicewt: open a terminal, and type "man wget"12:11
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ojpdhow can I specify the Bus Identifier?12:12
kevogodojpd, Leave it as the default.12:12
tuxedo_kamen-_- I tried his command, but it doesn't work either12:12
aquariusIs there a GUI CD burner that I can use to say "burn this list of files" which doesn't require me to know about SCSI 0,1,0-style device IDs and can do a burn unattended?12:12
graymantuxedo_kamen, erm. its warty12:12
ojpdok will try12:12
graymantuxedo_kamen, no wonder12:12
icewtnalioth, i have. haven't found a way12:12
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naliothtuxedo_kamen: on warty warthog you'll have to visit the java wiki and build it yourself12:12
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tuxedo_kamenit says something like.... the package is referenced by other one, but doesn't exit12:12
graymantuxedo_kamen, you need to upgrade distro12:13
naliothtuxedo_kamen: ubotu sent you the URL12:13
ojpdhow much is 64mb of memory in kb?12:13
kevogodojpd, Just leave it blank.12:13
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BioVorE64000 / 102412:13
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kevogodActually, it is 64 * 102412:13
kbrooksBioVorE: no, inaccurate measurement12:13
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icewtnalioth, actually wget -r http://something and/or wget --mirror http://something should work, but in this particular case those don't seem to work12:13
BioVorEfrom sales man number12:14
ojpduse kernel frambuffer device interface??12:14
ircuser9876icewt: try something along the lines of  $ wget -r -nd --no-parent -A "*.mp3" http://www.site.com/mp312:14
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mark_what is the best DVD ripping program. I will also need to be able to burn the ripped file12:14
tuxedo_kamenhum, how can I upgrade to hoary?12:14
naliothicewt: it can be done, my friend12:14
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mylastmorninghow do you run programs in wine?12:14
mark_tell tuxedo_kamen about horay upgrade12:14
funkyHatmylastmorning, generally double click on the program12:15
ojpduse kernel frambuffer device interface??  <-- yes or no???12:15
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tuxedo_kamen:S he didn't tell me anything12:15
mylastmorningfunkyHat, do I have to run wine while doing this?12:15
funkyHatmylastmorning, that should launch wine12:15
tuxedo_kamenubotu, tell tuxedo_kamen about hoary upgrade12:15
mylastmorningok thanks funkyHat.12:15
naliothtuxedo_kamen: there is no such document12:15
tuxedo_kamen:S12:15
tuxedo_kamenso, how can I install it?12:15
funkyHatyou can do it $ wine /path/to/app.exe but just opening the file in nautilus works just the same12:16
kevogodojpd, No12:16
kevogodojpd, Or yes, it don't really matter12:16
naliothtuxedo_kamen: ubotu will send you a URL, and you can substitute 'hoary' for "breezy"12:16
naliothubotu: tell tuxedo_kamen about upgrade2breezy12:16
propagandhituxedo_kamen: its easy, update all references to warty to read hoary in the /etc/apt/sources.list file then do apt-get update and the apt-get dist-upgrade12:16
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httpdssim wanting to install ubuntu on a 32MB RAM iMAC and i need some recomendations ... would xconfig (xfce4) work ok on so little ram ??12:16
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propagandhior sudo apt-get update etc12:17
icewtircuser9876, thanks, i've already tried something like that though, but that's a bit different12:17
edgarinhowto install library libgnomedb-2.so.3?????????????????12:17
StricklinI still cannot install wine: "Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. E: Package wine has no installation candidate."12:17
WiFiTuxanyone has a line for http proxy with apt-get? In apt.conf I assu,me?12:17
naliothhttpdss: buy more ram12:17
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ircuser9876icewt: yeah, some sites seem to block all wget requests no matter what you do...12:17
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MMXGNguys, when I am trying to install libfam0, libfam0-dev synaptic wants to remove the whole system, how can I avoid that?12:18
WiFiTuxsososhomoone?12:18
httpdssnalioth: isnt there any WM which can work on 32MB RAM ??12:18
MMXGN(using breezy)12:18
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naliothhttpdss: you can try *box12:18
MMXGNhttpdss, wmaker12:19
kevogodojpd, Still with us?12:19
frank23MMXGN: did you add strange repositories?12:19
naliothhttpdss: but i'd recommend more ram (it's cheap)12:19
tuxedo_kamenhum.... >_> listen... <_< hum... this is 500 MB of downloads, are you sure this will make my life with java easier?12:19
ompaultwm will12:19
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lakinSo, on the computer that my dad uses, (Hoary install from CD), whenever he runs firefox it puts a file called 'ver' with 1.0.2 on the desktop.   Any ideas why? And how I could fix that?12:19
MMXGNfrank23, only the multiverse and stuff of breezy12:19
tuxedo_kamen(sorry to ask for this, but in portugal we have a monthly limit of 4 GB per month)12:19
zeroversehttpdss, use damn small linux12:19
Dark-DruidWiFiTux, you could try export http_proxy=http://yourproxy:port before running apt-get12:19
propagandhituxedo_kamen: how do you mean your life with java12:20
frank23MMXGN: it does the same for me in hoary12:20
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tuxedo_kameni just want to install the same java I have on university, and also install javadoc!12:20
WiFiTuxDark-Druid: nah, there is an option in apt.conf...12:20
httpdssk thx ...12:20
Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, you could maybe try downloading java from sun's website12:20
tuxedo_kameni did that, but it doesn't seem to work!12:21
WiFiTuxDark-Druid: but that worked. :)12:21
propagandhituxedo_kamen: i installed from the sun website and it works fine for me12:21
naliothtuxedo_kamen: visit shipit.ubuntu.com12:21
propagandhituxedo_kamen: its in your path right?12:21
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tuxedo_kamenyeah, I installed it, but it doesn't work very good12:22
`123quick question: what do i have to do to get vlc or any other media player other than totem to play videos that are being accessed from another box?12:22
propagandhituxedo_kamen: and once you've visited that site, wait a few months and you'll have hoary12:22
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zeroverse123 how are you accessing them? through web interface or networking?12:22
Dark-Druidpropagandhi, he might as well wait a few more days till breezy is available before ordering then :P12:22
`123networking12:22
propagandhiHi _dr_nick_12:22
_dr__nick_hi everybody!12:23
propagandhiDark-Druid: i totally agree12:23
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zeroversecan't you just right click > properties > open with command line 'vlc'?12:23
`123no video12:23
`123:(12:23
`123i can hear sound fine, and if i copy it to this box i can view it perfectly fine12:23
Phiniteis there a way, during install, to have the boot record written to a floppy?12:24
tuxedo_kameni don't have a few months... I just need to install javadoc, I need to deliver this work by monday! :|12:24
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Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, to get javadoc you need ant...12:24
Dark-Druidif i remeber correctly..12:24
tuxedo_kamenwhat's ant?12:24
Phinitea build tool.  quite handy actually12:25
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tuxedo_kamenhum, how can I get it? synaptic?12:25
Dark-Druidthe tool you use to build javadoc ...12:25
Dark-Druidhow do you build javadoc documentation at the university?12:25
zeroverse123, what exactly do you "open with"?12:25
tuxedo_kamenno idea, never tried it...12:25
`123yes12:25
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Dark-Druidwell in breezy ant is in synaptic12:26
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Dark-Druidnot sure if you have it or not..12:26
Phiniteshould be able to apt-get it though12:26
Phinitetuxedo_kamen: do an apt-cache search ant12:26
zeroverse123, are you using breezy or an earlier version?12:26
`123horay 5.0412:26
jrattner1Anyone heard of you speakers making a noise when your phone is about to ring and ringing? (not purpesoley)12:26
MMXGNk solved it12:27
zeroverseand it says "vlc" not "vlc for GTK+"?12:27
MMXGNit was under libgamin0-dev12:27
`123vlc for gtk+, but i just type vlc in the command line option12:27
Dark-Druidjrattner1, is that a cell phone?12:27
zeroverseand it's not working?12:27
zeroversewith "vlc"?12:27
zeroversejust sound?12:27
`123no video :(12:27
`123yup, just sound12:27
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zeroversethat's werid12:27
KyralIt should be VLC Media Player12:27
`123i only get video on totem :(12:27
zeroversebut if you copy it to your local machine, it works fine?12:28
jrattner1Dark-Druid, yes12:28
`123yes12:28
Dark-Druidjrattner1, its pretty normal i think ...12:28
tuxedo_kamenok, I installed ant, what next?12:28
jrattner1but why would the cell phone interfere with the speakers12:28
_dr__nick_jrattner1: happens all the time here... try leaving it on top of a guitar amp...12:28
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Phinitejrattner1: do you have bluetooth?  that messes with mine heavily12:28
Dark-Druidjrattner1, not sure of the physics .... something to do with frequencies i guess..12:28
test34jrattner1, your monitor could interfere with your radio, so I guess your cell phone could interfere with your speaker ;)12:29
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propagandhijrattner1: its totally common, it can also do it when your cell phone is communicating with the network - car stereo speakers etc get affected. Its just a part of life12:29
jrattner1Phinite, oh yeh, i have bluetooth but my girlfriends phone cause the interference as well12:29
tuxedo_kamen>_<12:29
tuxedo_kamenanyone, I just installed ant, now how can I install javadoc?12:30
jrattner1science is so crazy12:30
Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, sorry forgot to answer...12:30
propagandhijrattner1: did you only just notice it does that?12:30
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zeroverse123 what speed is the network you're trying to transfer over?12:30
Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, its there.... you use ant javadoc to generate javadoc documentation12:30
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`123100mbps12:30
Dark-Druidof course i think you have to set up a proper ant build file ...12:30
jrattner1Propagandhi: I just got the speakers, they like mid range twenty dollar speakers from best buy12:31
tuxedo_kamen>_<12:31
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propagandhijrattner1: that could also be a contributing factor12:31
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tuxedo_kameni can't, it doesn't find build.xml12:31
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zeroverseI'm mystified...but this might give you somewhere to start: http://www.videolan.org/doc/faq/en/index.html#id23861512:31
Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, that is the ant build file i just mentioned12:31
war-totemhas anyone gotten battlefield 2 to work in ubuntu?12:31
tuxedo_kamen-_- sorry, but that sounds like chinese to me12:31
`123yeah, im stumped also :( forums and google have failed me :(12:31
`123ill check that out, thanks12:32
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Telonirfirst question: ubuntu vs debian unstable?12:32
Dark-Druidhehe tuxedo_kamen maybe you should try the java channel or something :P12:32
tuxedo_kamen>_> any idea where is it?12:32
Dark-DruidTelonir, don't you think answers would be a little biased in this channel? :P12:32
ompaulTelonir, that is not a question, it is a sudo statement :-)12:32
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tuxedo_kamenoh, nevermind >_>12:33
Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, not sure :P ... you could try and find some ant tutorials off google or something :P12:33
ompaulTelonir, is there a question in there, like which is better? or is it something else?12:33
propagandhiTelonir: obviously its a matter of opinion, but debian unstable is falling by the wayside12:33
TelonirDark-Druid, dont care12:33
propagandhiTelonir: so i'd say ubuntu all the way12:33
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propagandhiTelonir: and i've used most commonly used distros, i came back to ubuntu12:33
Teloniris it stable?12:33
Dark-Druidtuxedo_kamen, apparently i can't pm cause i am not registered12:34
propagandhiTelonir: i personally say YES12:34
Telonirever used freebsd?12:34
Dark-Druidpropagandhi, did you come crawling back? :P12:34
propagandhiTelonir: but like any distro, and even like M$ some people have problems here and there12:34
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ompaulTelonir, there is a stable edition that is almost 6 months old, the next version is out 13th Oct, and yes I have used FreeBSD even the 5.x series12:34
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propagandhiDark-Druid: i came back with my head hanging down saying, I knew i should have stayed on ubuntu instead of madly testing every distro available to mankind12:35
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PhiniteI have just installed ubuntu onto a system that uses a raid controller and now at the reboot, it won't boot.  what can I do?12:35
ompaulTelonir, and I used 0.95 iirc12:35
ompaulor .9912:35
Telonirfreebsd was great but made a lot of trouble with linux compat libs12:35
propagandhiTelonir: i have used FreeBSD- NetBSD-PCBSD, Suse, Slack, fedora, frugalware, ark, arch, a-linux you name it12:35
Telonir5.10 preview=?unstable?12:35
Suepahflyanyone else here having problem with updateing firefox thrrough synaptic ?12:36
naliothTelonir: it releases oct 1312:36
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Telonirdebian too?12:36
djjasoncan someone help...I am trying to run a java program through tcsh and I always get a permission denied error on the java/bin directory12:36
propagandhiTelonir: i love FreeBSD, but it just cant do everything i want easily, and i need to be productive12:36
httpdssPhinite: Check logs12:36
Dark-Druidpropagandhi, you should try gentoo :P12:36
ompaulTelonir, offically yes unofficially it is rock solid afaics12:36
propagandhiDark-Druid: i did12:36
Telonirnalioth, so whats with the preview thingie?12:36
propagandhifor a long time12:36
Dark-Druidah ok :)12:36
Dark-Druidthats where i am coming from now..12:36
propagandhiDark-Druid: but got sick of the compile time12:36
propagandhiand the temptation to tweak and fiddle to make the ultimate efficient OS12:36
ompaulTelonir, its RC12:37
propagandhiit just wasnt worth the time12:37
Dark-Druidpropagandhi, yeah that was my main problem...12:37
Dark-Druidi loved tweaking and messing around..12:37
kevogodFreeBSD is more productive than Gentoo.12:37
Telonirrelease candidate?12:37
Phinitehttpdss... given that I can't boot the computer, how?12:37
propagandhiwhen ubuntu is damn fast for me anyway12:37
Dark-Druidand ended up with a very unstable system12:37
ompaulTelonir, final rc at that12:37
Phinitethat's the problem I'm having.12:37
PhiniteI just want to boot12:37
kevogodPlus, their site was redesigned.12:37
Telonirfreebsd has binary packages :)12:37
zeroverseprop, that's how i feel about all the distros.  Ubuntu (breezy) is the one distro that installed with zero problems--and that saves alot of time12:37
propagandhii got so sick of having to rebuild the system around itself every time i made a significant change12:37
Phiniteno ide drives, just serial ata12:37
ompaulTelonir, so has ubuntu about 17.5k of them12:37
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propagandhizeroverse: couldnt agree with you more12:38
Telonirwell debian based stuf is bin-packages based...12:38
propagandhiand i like an OS that has good hardware detection, so i dont need to fiddle to get my best resolution etc12:38
kevogodFreeBSD has proprietary binary packages.12:38
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kevogodThere.12:38
propagandhieven gentoo has the ebuilds etc12:38
ompaulTelonir, are you trolling or is there a point to this?12:38
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Telonirin fbsd its simple to use both binary and source12:39
Telonirgoing to try ubuntu12:39
Phinitecan anyone help?  I really want to get this system up and running12:39
zeroverseright...i have a big lcd monitor and when i tested xandros out it wouldn't even boot!  ubuntu got the native res and mhz right on first boot.  I was impressed12:39
propagandhiTelonir: try it and you will be happy i believe12:39
graymananyone else get an error in breezy when does System-> About Ubuntu?12:39
ompaulTelonir, so grab the live CD for 5.10 check it out12:39
Telonirtried so far: an old RH, freebsd,debian, and now fedora.12:39
dmkgrayman, its a known bug. cant remember the number12:39
Telonirwhy live cd..?12:39
propagandhizeroverse: same here, on Dell Inspiron 5150 (1400x1050) and HP DV4000 (1280x800)12:39
graymandmk, ah12:39
graymandmk, thought that it maybe me broke something again12:40
Telonirgonna try the real thing12:40
httpdssPhinite: does recovery mode work ??12:40
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ompaulTelonir, great, I would say pop in 5.1012:40
Phinitehow do I do that httpdss?12:40
Phinitefrom the install cd?12:40
Phiniteis there a way?12:40
misfit_toyanybody else have their amaroK broken in the last 2 days? mine got whacked on tuesday's update12:40
propagandhiTelonir: i dont mind the redhat based systems to some degree, but the package tools are crap12:40
zeroverseompaul i didn't get an error...there's just no doc to load it looks like12:41
dmkgrayman, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1698212:41
telemacohas anyone problems with nautilus-sendto in breezy ?12:41
graymandmk, thanks12:41
ompaulzeroverse, that was not for me :)12:41
Telonirfedora (imho) is slower than debian12:41
zeroverseompaul, i think they'll have an "about" file ready on the realease date12:41
Telonirand its huge12:41
Telonir2.4gb vs 1.1 on deb12:41
misfit_toyTelonir, yes it is, but it's a nice distro.12:41
propagandhiTelonir: absolutely, and way too bloated12:41
httpdssPhinite: from grub12:41
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Kartoffelif I enable a client with Xhost, does this client also stay until the next reboot?12:41
httpdssPhinite: or lilo12:42
Phinitehttpdss: I can't get to grub, it's not seeing a hard drive.  hmm, is there a way to make an ubuntu boot floppy in windows?12:42
Phinitethat might get me there12:42
ompaulzeroverse, this seems a little left field for me, can you give me a context?12:42
misfit_toyso nobody here had amaroK nuked from the latest updates? I've removed and reinstalled and still get this wacky error:12:42
misfit_toyamaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.12:42
misfit_toyamaroK: [Loader]  amarokapp probably crashed!12:42
darkmodemHello all12:42
mark__Hey guys, could you tell me what a good DVD Ripping program is?12:43
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crimsunmisfit_toy: as I stated last night, it works fine here12:43
mark__Hey guys, could you tell me what a good DVD Ripping program is?12:43
naliothmark__: dvdrip12:43
misfit_toycrimsun, thanks but I was hoping someone else had this issue. ;)12:43
darkmodemmark_> try drip12:43
misfit_toyweird12:43
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mark__nalitoth, thanks, what do you think about darkmodem suggesting drip?12:43
misfit_toywth is valgrind anyway? lol12:43
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crimsunmisfit_toy: apt-cache show valgrind12:43
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mark__nalioth, thanks, what do you think about darkmodem suggesting drip?12:44
Phinitehmm, I could make an ubuntu boot cd, that might do it, manually edit the boot that way12:44
naliothmark__: if it works, use it12:44
propagandhiPhinite: any live cd would do if you have one handy12:44
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tuxedo_kamenhum, can anyone teach me how to use the path environment variables?12:44
misfit_toycrimsun, is that something that can be safely removed? could that be the issue? (valgrind)12:45
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mark__nalioth, I do not see DVDRIP in Synaptic and that is the only way I know how to install a program12:45
propagandhituxedo_kamen: permanently modify or temporarily12:45
naliothubotu: tell tuxedo_kamen about cli12:45
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tuxedo_kamenpermanentely12:45
naliothtuxedo_kamen: read up with what ubotu posted12:45
crimsunmisfit_toy: valgrind is not installed by default12:45
naliothmark__: do you have all your sources enabled?12:45
SuepahflyDon't know if you poeple have seen this, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1  the longest liveing 'bug' in Ubuntu :)12:45
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basti__anyone got any idea why the sound in gaim sounds awful?12:46
misfit_toyoh well, I guess back to xmms for me, maybe it will fix itself some day, if a remove and reinstall doesn't fix it then something in the updates broke it. I haven't loaded anything here lately.12:46
httpdssPhinite: you could also try a floppy with grub on it12:46
propagandhituxedo_kamen: try looking at the second post or so here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1586.html12:46
ompaulSuepahfly, yeap it is being tackled every day in some little and big way12:46
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zeroversemisfit toy you might also try beep-media-player12:47
zeroverseapparrently the guys at beep-media-player update the software much more often and you can still use your xmms skins if you want12:48
tuxedo_kamen-_-12:48
darkmodemI'm having a problem compiling a kernel..  When I do a 'make menuconfig' I get this: "gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found"12:48
tuxedo_kamensorry to tell you this, but what the bot and everyone told me just sounded like chinese to me!12:48
naliothdarkmodem: edit your gcc-version.sh12:49
Shorty`apt-get install build-essential12:49
Shorty`:>12:49
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Shorty`ah, that'd work too12:49
mark__nalioth, when I click on repositories I only see two items in there, Breezy Badger (bianary) and security updates (bianary)12:49
Shorty`:P12:49
crimsunhe should really install gcc-3.412:49
darkmodemcool.  thanks.  I thought I was on 4.0 anyway12:49
thalgHow to install Icon-themes in Gnome ??12:49
httpdssPhinite: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/recovery/!INDEX.html12:49
naliothubotu: tell mark__ about sources12:50
erirlarhi, is there a cover downloader for gnome out here?12:50
naliothdarkmodem: you can install gcc-3.412:50
naliotherirlar: a what?12:50
Telonirweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee12:50
dmkgcc-4.0 comes as default, install gcc-3.412:50
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chavothalg, you can drag them to the theme details window12:50
dmkthen you can export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.412:50
propagandhidarkmodem, if you are on 4.0 and you still have the error -  do 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4/' and then try again12:50
thalgOk, tnx..12:50
propagandhidmk: woops sorry12:50
chavothalg, or decompress them in ~/.icons12:50
erirlarnalioth: a cover downloader for music albums12:50
mylastmorninghow do you get the wmv codecs?12:51
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mylastmorninganyone know?12:51
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naliotherirlar: i have no clue. try www.gnome-look.org or whatever it's called (maybe gnome-files.org)12:51
Xenguy!w32codecs12:51
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)12:51
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tuxedo_kamenlet me put this straight... >_> what file do i need to edit in order to add something to the path environment variable?12:52
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naliothtuxedo_kamen: your .bashrc12:52
darkmodemthanks propagandhi.  doing that now.12:52
graymanmylastmorning, codex for what?12:52
tuxedo_kamenand where can I find it?12:52
graymantuxedo_kamen, home dir12:52
Xenguytuxedo_kamen: or, for a global config, /etc/profile12:52
naliothtuxedo_kamen: its in /home/tuxedo_kamen/12:52
mylastmorningfor the wmv video format grayman12:52
naliothXenguy: not a good idea to change system files12:52
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graymanmylastmorning, yeah, but for what player?12:52
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Xenguynalioth: not a good idea to customize your own boxen?  What do you mean - why?12:53
dmkmylastmorning, if you are using totem-gsteamer you will need it pitfdll plugin too12:53
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mylastmorningI'm using totem.12:54
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mylastmorninggrayman, dmk I am using totem.12:54
dmkmylastmorning, default totem?12:54
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mylastmorningyes dmk12:54
agentfelixis there a way to install ubuntu without creating a boot cd?12:54
Phinite_2that was fun12:54
mahanguagentfelix, any operating system needs to boot to install mate, even windows12:54
dmkmylastmorning, install gstreamer0.8-pitfdll too12:55
tristanmikemylastmorning, for wmv it's in the w32 codes, but it won't play new wmv and if you 64 bit, it doesn't play wmv9 yet, as I understand it12:55
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mahanguagentfelix, you can probably boot from a floppy and THEN boot cd, but ull need a boot cd nevertheless12:55
zeroverseyou can technically boot from a memory stick or over a network12:55
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basti__how do I change which keyboard layout that is used at loginscreen ?12:55
agentfelixok how can i make a ubuntu boot floppy12:55
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agentfelixit wont boot from cd12:55
mark__nalioth I did what that link you sent me said to but it still does not give me the package in my screen. I think I deleted it off the list earlier today and I have to add with apt line, is that right?12:55
agentfelixi wrote 5.04 to a cd12:55
darkmodemhey propaghandi, what do I do with that 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4/'?  I tried it from a terminal but nothing happened..  do I need to paste that somewhere?12:55
propagandhidarkmodem: you just execute that12:56
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dmkdarkmodem, drop the trailing / though12:56
darkmodemthat's what I thought..12:56
propagandhiso long as you have gcc-3.4 installed12:56
darkmodemk12:56
propagandhiyeah sorry left that / in12:56
zeroversehttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html << boot w/o CD12:56
Shorty`we use usb2 cdrom caddys12:57
Shorty`:>12:57
Shorty`for machines we can't be arsed installing cdroms in12:57
zeroverseagentfelix have you changed your bios so that it checks the cd rom first?12:57
mylastmorningtristanmike, where can i get w32 codecs?12:57
mark__how do I access sources.list?12:57
mark__how do I access sources.list?12:57
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basti__mark__, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list12:58
mahanguagentfelix, im sorry i cant go in to that, studying for an exam, but someone here willl be able to help you12:58
kevogodHow do you permanently block pop-ups in Epiphany, every time I turn them off, when I restart the program it changes back to the default value.12:58
Kris_kTrying to play a dvd movie but hte playback is all glitchy and slow, it says DMA is enabled and i have the FGLRX driver installed, x800 vidcard 64 bit cpu, Steaming Video plays fine12:58
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tristanmike!tell mylastmorning about w32codecs12:58
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mahangumark__, ask once and wait, someone HAS seen you and will reply12:58
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green_earzmark__: or apt-setup  and pick the edit option12:58
airmikeyi get this error when i log into gnome: could not look up internrt address for ubuntu this will prevent gnome from operating correctly it may be possible to correct the problem by adding ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts.12:58
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basti__how do I change which keyboard layout is used at loginscreen ?12:59
mark__mahangu, sorry I will wait before resending12:59
darkmodemhmm..  no luck with that command.  I hate to think that I need to downgrade my compiler12:59
war-totemairmikey, i had that problem in redhat, but it never affected anything01:00
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airmikeyi cant connnect to the internet01:01
agentfelixthe website on how to install ubuntu without a floppy works but the file pages to download the needed files doesn't work.01:01
Kris_kTrying to play a dvd movie but hte playback is all glitchy and slow, it says DMA is enabled and i have the FGLRX driver installed, x800 vidcard 64 bit cpu, Steaming Video plays fine01:01
agentfelixdoesn't anyone know how i can install ubuntu?01:01
war-totemairmikey, oh, one sec01:01
mahanguairmikey, go to System -> Admin -> Networking01:02
mahangusee if your network adapters are setup,01:02
mahanguare you on ethernet or wifi?01:02
Kris_kagentfelix did you try mirrors01:02
mahanguKris_k, i had some problems, i switched to xine-ui01:02
agentfelixwasn't any01:02
mahanguworks w/o a hitch01:02
agentfelixwas only direct hot links01:02
Kris_kmahangu VLC and Mplayer are both playing it crappy01:02
agentfelixi have the ISO i used nero to BURN the image01:03
mahanguKris_k, try xine-ui01:03
airmikeyok had to boot into openbox..gnome wont boot01:03
Kris_kmahangu i can get that to work its weird lol01:03
mahanguairmikey, jump back to console and do /etc/init.d/gdm restart01:03
mahanguor stop01:03
mahangustart01:03
mahanguKris_k, heh, same problem yesterday, fixed with xine-ui01:03
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Kris_kMahangu i have the xine-ui but it complains something about the engine01:04
war-totemairmikey, try this cat /etc/hostname01:04
mahanguKris_k, you need g-streamer, libdvdcss2 and libdvdnav201:04
mahanguapt them01:04
mark__green_earz when I did apt-setup it told me I needed the Ubuntu CD, that didn't seem right so I did it the other way, but shoudl I be worried over the error?01:04
mahanguagentfelix, wont your bios support cd bootin?01:04
war-totemairmikey, cp /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.backup01:04
mahangumark__, open sources.list comment out the ubuntu cd line01:05
mahangufirst link i think01:05
mahangubrb01:05
bimberiagentfelix: have you seen this method? - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto01:05
war-totemairmikey, actually look at this: www.thelinuxreview.com/entry.lxp?xpe=31201:05
jmgguys i need to rerun grub from a chroot but i am getting an error01:05
mark__mahangu, ok thanks01:05
mark__mahangu, I comment using # right?01:05
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jmgmount: special device /dev/mapper/vg-home does not exist01:05
airmikeyok im in networking01:05
agentfelixits not my bios01:06
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agentfelixjust got the motherboard01:06
war-totemcheck out that website, it seems a lot of linux distros have the same problem01:06
agentfelixits a 2004 plus i flashed the bios with september updates01:06
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Lars_G!java01:06
ubotuit has been said that java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java01:06
Kris_kapt-get cant find those packages mahangu01:07
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mark__ok so I just installed dvdrip with Synaptic and now I cannot find where to launch it01:07
mahanguKris_k, universe01:07
mahangui may have spelth them wrong01:08
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mahangumark__, gnome foot -> run01:08
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Kris_kuniverse01:08
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mahangudrip01:08
jack-which repository is opera in?01:08
mahanguor command line, drip01:08
jrattner1does breezy have better wifi support, not for hardware, but software wise that makes accessing wifi's easier01:08
jack-cant find it..01:08
mahangujack-, opera is not in repos01:08
jack-oh01:08
mahanguubotu tell jack about opera01:08
jack-thx01:08
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mahangunp01:08
mahanguok screw this, im getting distracted01:08
mahanguoff to study guys, laters01:08
mark__mahangu, I typed gnome foot -> run and it said command not found01:09
mahangumark__, try console01:09
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mahanguor see if it's actually installed01:09
mahangumark__, ask someone else here, im out, good luck! :D01:09
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Lars_GHi Seveas, how do you fare?01:09
Ersaiis there something wrong with the apt archives?01:09
mark__mahangu, thanks buy01:09
jrattner1does breezy have better wifi support, not for hardware, but software wise that makes accessing wifi's easier?01:09
mark__Ok someone help me. I installed dvdrip and now I don't know how to run it01:09
darkmodempropagandhi - with that 'export' command, what file gets affected?  I'd like to see it.  /etc/ I presume?01:10
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graymanmark__, you can find that package in synaptic and see what files and where it installed by right clicking and choosing options01:10
Ersaimark__ open a shell and type dvdrip --help or man dvdrip01:10
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bimberijrattner1: i understand it has networkmanager which makes managing wifi easier01:10
mark__Ersai thanks that worked,01:11
jrattner1bimberi, where did you find information about this?01:11
jmgguys what i need to do is access lvm from within my chroot01:11
naliothwhats a good program to see realtime network usage?01:11
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graymanproperties i mean01:11
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graymanor that01:11
jmgi am getting this error /dev/mapper/vg-shockwave: not found or not a block device01:11
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bimberijrattner1: oh though lurking on some random irc channel called #ubuntu :)01:11
ErsaiI am having problems accessing the apt archive. Is there something wrong with it?01:11
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budreeferhallooo al01:11
budreeferall01:12
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budreeferany1 home?01:12
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agentfelixcan anyone help me install ubuntu...with a reasonable logical answer?01:12
jrattner1bimberi, i hope WIFI software sucks right now, its very tedious to choose networks and such01:12
budreefersure i can help u agentfelix lol01:12
budreeferwhat is your problem?01:12
Kyraldefine logical01:12
budreeferlol nice01:12
windexagentfelix, define reasonable, logical. i may not be able to help. :)01:12
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delltonyanyone mind pasting their repository list to a pastesite please for some reason i can't find mplayer plugin and other things and i have all my repositories in the DEFAULT breezy sources.list enabled01:12
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bimberijrattner1: FYI here's the wiki page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager01:12
budreeferhey tell me something guys....with the default ubuntu install straight from the cd, why is there no prompt to input pass for root??01:13
naliothubotu: tell delltony about sources01:13
jrattner1thanks bimberi01:13
stperebudreefer, use sudo01:13
budreeferdunno sudo01:13
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agentfelixi want to install ubuntu01:13
Ersairoot doesnt use a password its disabled. use sudo -s to get a root shell instead01:13
jack-ubotu: tell jack- about opera01:13
agentfelixhow do i go about that01:13
delltonythans01:13
jack-ubotu: tell jack- about sources01:13
jmghow can i reinstall grub from outside my chroot then01:13
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delltonythanks even01:13
budreefero nice01:13
bimberijrattner1: yw :)01:13
budreeferany reason they disabled root?01:13
Ersaisecurity and simplicity of one password to rule them all01:14
naliothbudreefer: safety01:14
budreeferyeah looks pretty sweet ;) thanks for help01:14
naliothanyone know of a realtime network analyzer (wanna see whats talking to whom)01:14
Ersaibudreefer: you can enable it by setting a password for it if you wish01:14
budreeferyeah thats what i did last time01:15
budreeferi just loaded my other linux01:15
bimberiroot disabled also means less questions during the install :)01:15
Ersainalioth: ethereal01:15
budreeferand used chroot then passwd01:15
budreeferbut...01:15
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budreefereven then the login says root is no good as a name01:15
budreefernot sure what is missing thar01:15
green_earznalioth: iptraf01:15
naliothErsai: ethereal requires parsing at a later time. i dont wish to capture packets01:15
Ersainalioth: ahh... shows you how much i know.01:16
budreeferhow would you go about enabling root on my system?01:16
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budreefernot that i really want it hehe01:16
jrattner1bimberi that think looks cool01:16
Ersaibudreefer: sudo -c 'passwd'01:16
TotalWhats up everyone01:16
rob_pnalioth:  tcpdump works for me.01:16
bimberijrattner1: so do i - looking forward to trying it out myself :)01:17
budreefersez the -c is an illegal option for sudo ;)01:17
stperesudo passwd01:17
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TotalDoes anyine know when Edubuntu is releasing?01:17
Ersaierr -c is for su not sudo... sorry...01:17
stperethe password that will be asked is your current user password01:17
budreefernice01:17
budreeferyeah i got that from using sudo just before thanks stpere01:17
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Kris_ki can freaking compile anything or get anything with apt-get01:18
naliothanyone know a network analyzer that shows the programs accessing the network?01:18
Totalyes netsharechk01:18
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pawelnice, finally got acpi, wifi, bluetooth and my printer working. :>01:18
Ersaikris_k: almost01:18
basti__how can I change the keyboard layout at login?01:18
Kris_ki cant *01:18
cevizoglucan ubuntu breezy boot from external usb2 on a thinkpad?01:19
pawelbrb01:19
naliothanyone know a network analyzer that shows the programs accessing the network?01:19
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crimsuncevizoglu: yes01:20
stperenalioth, sure01:21
stperenalioth, netstat -p01:21
`123another quick question: ive been searching the ubuntu forums for problems similar to mine, and found two posts from people that had the exact problems that i have. the only problem is that they have 0 replies :( is the solution simple or is there no solution. http://tinyurl.com/ckfr4 http://tinyurl.com/82v2301:21
crimsuncevizoglu: it can also boot via pxe01:21
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Kris_kThis is the error i get when i ./configure xine-lib01:21
Kris_kFor some reason, the requirements for building the X11 video01:21
Kris_koutput plugins are not met. That means, that you will NOT be01:21
Kris_kable to use the resulting xine-lib to watch videos in a window01:21
Kris_kon any X11-based display (e.g. your desktop).01:21
Kris_kIf this is not what you want, provide the necessary X11 build01:21
ErsaiWhy would i get an Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 82.211.81.182 80] 01:21
Ersai every time i try to do apt-update?01:21
Kris_kdependencies (usually done by installing a package called01:21
Kris_kXFree86-devel or similar) and run configure again.01:21
mylastmorning!repositories01:21
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))01:21
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rob_pnalioth:  "netstat -tpln" will show you the pid/program name accessing the port, etc.  Does that help?01:21
Kris_kwhat are the requirements for building on X11 ?01:22
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zerouserhello01:23
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zerouseris it possible to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 without loosing configuration information?01:24
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rulebrakerim hoping i have come to the right place01:25
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rulebrakeris this the place for ubuntu support?01:25
Ersaiapt is simply a connection to port 80 right?01:25
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stperedamn.. my nvidia driver is locking down my machine01:27
Dreamglideris the post/topic01:27
kbrooksrulebraker: ask01:27
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rulebrakerdoes anybody know what to do when this happens when i run apt-get for anything (Segmentation Faulty Tree... 73%) i think i fixed it before by removing something but i cant remember what01:27
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Dreamglider i am updating from 5.04 to .10 from the link in topic > http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes , when it's done downloading will it install 5.10 like when on installs from the cd or what ?01:29
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naliothDreamglider: yes01:31
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criticalmass120hi01:32
darkmodemThank you everyone for the lovery support.  I'm off to work!01:32
criticalmass120i just installed ubuntu01:32
criticalmass120for the first time01:32
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Dreamglidernalioth, ok thanks01:32
rulebrakerthe only thing that apt-get will do for me without the (Segmentation Faulty Tree... 73%) is apt-get moo does anybody know how to fix this?01:33
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criticalmass120does anyone know how i can change my wallpaper01:34
criticalmass120nm01:34
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splitta/joiiin  #mandriva01:35
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dmksee yous all later01:35
rulebrakerwell im off to search google (again) if anybody can help me then it would be appreciated01:35
guidanwhats a good video editing software?01:35
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jmgrulebraker: thats an old debian problem i ran into once01:36
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jmgrulebraker: strace apt-get01:36
rulebrakerkk i will see what happens01:36
rulebrakersame nothing different01:37
sambagirli just added a bunch of new stuff from synapsis01:37
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sambagirlnow i cannot logon to a root01:37
sambagirlsaying an error01:37
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_jasonsambagirl:   you mean sudo?  or are you actually logging in as root?01:38
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sambagirli use the drop down option01:38
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graymanerm. what drop down options?01:38
sambagirli probably need to reboot after loading all htese things01:39
bbzidaneis it me or is there problems accessing ubuntu.com sites?01:39
_jasonsambagirl:  hoary or breezy?01:39
sambagirlover 2 gigs of new stuff from synaptics01:39
`123(hopefully) quick question: I've been searching the ubuntu forums for problems similar to mine, and I found two posts from people that had the exact problems that i have. The only problem is that they have 0 replies. Is the solution simple or is there no solution? http://tinyurl.com/ckfr4 http://tinyurl.com/82v2301:39
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graymansambagirl, thats doesnt matter01:39
sambagirloh i dont know i tried to install breezy but it did not do01:39
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sambagirllet me try something else.01:39
sambagirlbrb01:39
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sambagirlDetails: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/gdmflexiserver.desktop': File not found01:40
sambagirlohno01:40
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graymanhrm01:40
sambagirlls: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/gksu.desktop': File not found01:41
graymanwarked before yu installed new stuff?01:41
ErikHKI have a default-installation of Ubuntu, and my processor is running @ 85-90% all the time, though I am only running gaim, Firefox, some xterm etc... what could take that much??01:41
sambagirlyes01:41
zenwhenErikHK,01:41
sambagirli heard about a war between gnome and kde. there was some kind of issue01:41
zenwhenrun the command "top"01:41
Dark-DruidErikHK, have you tried top?01:41
zenwhenand all will be revealed01:41
sambagirlwhere/01:41
sambagirli cannot get shell01:41
ErikHKDark-Druid, zenwhen: yes01:41
graymansambagirl, what that have to do with the error?01:41
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sambagirloh never mind01:42
ErikHKnano takes alot! :O !!01:42
Dark-DruidErikHK, and what seems to be at the top of the list?01:42
ErikHKnano! :D01:42
sambagirlit was just a thought01:42
guidanhi guys nautilus-cd-burner is installed, but i can't find it01:42
criticalmass120i got a fast question01:42
Dark-Druidnano??01:42
criticalmass120can anyone help me01:42
criticalmass120super fast01:42
ErikHKsambagirl: why nano??01:42
sambagirlwhere do i type in TOP01:42
_jasoncrimsun:  just ask01:42
criticalmass120how do u go about installing icons01:42
sambagirlnano?01:42
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sambagirlwhat has nano to do with this?01:42
Dark-Druidhow about using emacs or vi instead? :P01:42
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crimsun_jason: mis-complete.01:43
ErikHKDark-Druid: I like nano XD01:43
_jasoncrimsun:  yep sry!01:43
graymanactually vi is much better01:43
sambagirlDetails: Failed to execute child process "/usr/bin/gksudo" (No such file or directory)01:43
sambagirleverything is not working now01:43
graymanhrm01:43
graymanodd01:43
graymanwhat did you install?01:43
sambagirlohmy god01:43
_jasongrayman:  pm me why vi is better?  I was learning vi, then tried emacs and decided I preferred emacs...01:44
Dark-Druidsambagirl, sounds like something serious...01:44
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Dark-Druidsure you haven't got a rm -rf /* somwhere in the background? :P01:44
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sambagirlall kinds off games and astronomy, graphics, stuff from synaptics program add manager i just went thru and chose stuff looking interesting.01:44
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cevizogluvi is outdated, vim is much better01:44
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rulebrakerwell i will try and sort apt-get out after compiling a new kernel ill be back01:44
sambagirlham radio things, chemistry things, many games, all kinds of stuff.01:44
sambagirljust stuff01:45
grayman_jason, i was talking about vi is betetr than nano, but if vi is better than emacs... i prefer not to get into this01:45
sambagirltook hours to finish01:45
eythiansambagirl, ham radio stuff?01:45
graymani dont see why it broke01:45
sambagirlyes01:45
eythiansambagirl, you're a ham?01:46
_jasongrayman:  oh I thought you were a vi guy...  I am going to start learning one or the other and have decided on emacs, so I just thought i would hear your thoughts. :D01:46
sambagirlno my dad is01:46
sambagirlor he was01:46
eythiansambagirl, ah, OK.01:46
sambagirlmy brother andi have his stuff01:46
sambagirli mean i know morse code01:46
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eythiansambagirl, heh. I have my license, and I don't know morse code :)01:46
grayman_jason, i do like vi and use it, but im not one of that maniacal fanatics that will kill when hear the word vi01:46
sambagirl.- -... -.-.--. . A B C D E01:46
_jasongrayman:  lol ok cool01:46
sambagirlnot a license it'sa Ticket :_01:47
sambagirltrue?01:47
sambagirl73's :D01:47
eythiansambagirl, yeah yeah :) I was trying to be less colloquial01:47
sambagirlQST01:47
yarddogvi is for the psychologically impaired01:47
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eythiansambagirl, de ZL4TRS :)01:47
HrdwrBobyarddog: we don't do editor wars here01:47
sambagirlahh he W8JCE01:47
HrdwrBobyarddog: take your troll elsewhere01:48
sambagirlwilber 8 juliet charlie echo :D01:48
yarddogHrdwrBob, i did not start it01:48
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Deterministgood evening lads01:48
eythiansambagirl, hehe :)01:48
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sambagirlok i  suppose i just do a format and start over i guess....sigh01:48
yarddogHrdwrBob, take it up with who started it, leave me alone please01:48
graymansambagirl, erm. try breezy01:48
sambagirli ttried it01:48
HrdwrBobwhoever started it, there's no need for name calling01:48
graymansambagirl, its kind of stable right now01:48
eythiansambagirl, you shouldn't have to reinstall to fix things.01:48
HrdwrBoband _jason that's an -offtopic only question01:49
green_earzsambagirl: instead of ham radio have a look at sip voip and asterisk01:49
yarddogHrdwrBob, name calling?01:49
graymaneythian, you even saw her errors?01:49
Deterministanyone here that managed to configure gmail pop3 access under evolution? thing doesnt support ssl for pop01:49
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eythiangreen_earz, ham radio is a lot more fun if you're technically inclined.01:49
eythiangrayman, I saw the tail end of them.01:49
HrdwrBobpsychologically impaired, in any case, let's not continue to have pointless arguments and further disrupt/distract the channel01:49
sambagirldo private dialog01:49
graymaneythian, its like no sudo no anything...01:49
sambagirlhold on01:49
sambagirlwell what happened?01:49
eythiangrayman, no sudo or no gtksudo?01:50
yarddogHrdwrBob, not a problem, if you had not imposed, it would not have continued01:50
sambagirlSeveas said use Synaptics to do installs i did and now nothing works.01:50
sambagirlbrb let me check on something.01:50
eythiansambagirl, synaptic should be safe.01:50
graymaneythian, thats what i said01:50
eythianhmm.01:51
tristanmikeunless you have crummy backports that can break your system01:51
tristanmikelike out of date ones, and stuff01:51
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eythiantristanmike, even then, I think apt has some defenses against that, povided they're not too crummy01:51
graymanunless she accidently slected few packages for removal01:52
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tristanmikeeythian, ;)01:52
guidancan some one show me where i can find nautilus-cd-burner01:52
guidanplz01:52
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sambagirlit wont let me open a .bin file now...uh oh.01:52
sambagirlbrb01:52
eythianguidan, put a bland CD-R in.01:52
sambagirlsomething wrong01:52
eythianerr, blank01:52
guidanand it should pop up?01:52
sambagirlBTW did anyone read artical comparing UBUNTU to Windows Vista?01:52
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sambagirlin Info World.01:52
mauriciogpbuenas a todos01:52
mauriciogpsoy nuevo01:53
criticalmass120i cant install anything it says i got to be root01:53
eythianguidan, yep01:53
criticalmass120and my root pass is wrong01:53
graymansambagirl, no, but i was translating windows vista article on MS from ms language to normal and i didnt like what i saw01:53
sankosihas anyone put ubuntu on an xbox?01:53
guidanoh no now my dvd rom dont open01:53
guidangot something to do with mounting.01:54
bimbericriticalmass120: use sudo to get root privileges01:54
eythiangrayman, is there a dpkg command to check to see if a package is corrupted, and reinstall it?01:54
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sambagirlDetails: Failed to execute child process "gksudo" (No such file or directory)01:54
criticalmass120o01:54
sambagirlnothing works01:54
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bimberiubotu tell criticalmass120 about root01:54
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eythianguidan, if you have a CD in there, right click on the icon and 'eject' (or 'unmount' I forget which)01:54
graymaneythian, dpkg -s01:55
`123where does samba mount drives by default?01:55
guidanunable to eject media01:55
eythianguidan, does it say why? Usually thats because it's busy.01:55
guidanit just say its busy01:55
guidanbut i'm not using it01:56
criticalmass120how do i install deb packages01:56
apokryphoscriticalmass120: man dpkg01:56
criticalmass120i am new to this01:56
graymancriticalmass120, local?01:56
criticalmass120i just installed it01:56
criticalmass120no i am a newbie to linux01:56
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eythianguidan, do you have a window open showing it, or a program that is using something on it, or a terminal window that is in the cdrom directory?01:56
criticalmass120local what01:57
graymancriticalmass120, first try not to install anything that dont come in .deb, check synaptic and man dpkg01:57
guidanthe only thing i have open is xchat01:57
eythiangrayman, I don't think dpkg -s acutally goes and verifies the package isn't corrupted.01:57
graymaneythian, thats the only status that it gives01:57
terasurferdoes anybody have a suggestion for what to do when gam_server prevents me from unmounting drives?01:57
criticalmass120o i was trying to install a .rpm01:58
criticalmass120it said it had to be a .deb01:58
eythianguidan, open a teminal and type 'eject'01:58
green_earzcriticalmass120: the link should be of interest to you " Learn Linux - On Line " > http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/moodle/01:58
criticalmass120cool thanks01:58
guidaneythian can i past the result in here 3 line01:58
green_earznp01:59
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criticalmass120but ubutno can install rpms right01:59
eythianguidan, paste it as one line, use '\' to seperate or something01:59
criticalmass120rpm -ivh filename.rpm right01:59
guidanumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy01:59
guidanumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy01:59
guidaneject: unmount of `/dev/hdc' failed01:59
graymancriticalmass120, i'd suggest not to install rpms01:59
bimbericriticalmass120: it can, but not that way, but what are you trying to install?01:59
eythianguidan, OK, something is using it. Do: lsof -n | grep cdrom02:00
criticalmass120just anything02:00
criticalmass120lol02:00
Kris_kTrying to play a dvd movie but hte playback is all glitchy and slow, it says DMA is enabled and i have the FGLRX driver installed, x800 vidcard 64 bit cpu, Steaming Video plays fine, is there a way to fix this without doing another player02:00
graymancriticalmass120, you can use alien to try and remake them to deb02:00
criticalmass120i got some icons02:00
Dark-Druidgoodnight im off to bed02:00
criticalmass120i am trying to figure out howto install02:00
bimbericriticalmass120: you need to get to know synaptic then02:00
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green_earzguidan: have you got any window open to the drive, if so close them.02:00
bimberiubotu tell criticalmass120 about synaptic02:00
guidanno02:00
criticalmass120thanks02:00
guidanand it give me the same result02:00
bimbericriticalmass120: yw :)02:00
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guidanafter i type in lsof -n | grep cdrom02:01
eythianguidan, what do you mean 'the same result'? This should show up any programs accessing the cdrom.02:01
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guidangam_serve  6739     guidan   62r      DIR       22,0    2048     20480 /media/cdrom002:01
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Alpha232ok... i have been trying the live CD for a while now and finally got networking to work... i then install it, make the changes i need, and networking doesn't work. ARGH02:02
Alpha232does HH have issues with DHCP?02:02
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eythianguidan, oh. It's gam_server. Hrm, hang on.02:02
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amiasevning all02:02
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guidan oxez  you from toronto?02:03
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oxezguidan: nope, I live in Quebec02:03
guidanoh i see02:03
oxezcogeco cable :O02:03
guidanyes02:03
guidanhaha02:03
oxezThey suck as an ISP02:03
SuseUXok, i'm impressed with Ubuntu 5.1002:03
guidanwhat can we do/02:03
kbrooksoxez: i use cogeco02:03
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kbrooksthey dont suck02:03
lllmanulllSuseUX, you should be :)02:03
guidankbrooks where u from?02:03
amiasi still cant get the mga_vid module to compile from the ubuntu sources , anyone got this working02:04
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kbrookspeterborough02:04
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kbrooksontario02:04
guidanreally02:04
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guidani have family there02:04
sarkiegi02:04
oxezkbrooks: pings in games are bad, every one I know who has cgo says that too02:04
sarkiehi02:04
kbrookscool02:04
oxezanyway02:04
Kris_kTrying to play a dvd movie but hte playback is all glitchy and slow, it says DMA is enabled and i have the FGLRX driver installed, x800 vidcard 64 bit cpu, Steaming Video plays fine, is there a way to fix this without doing another player02:04
SuseUXlllmanulll, the install was very easy, one of the easiest installers out there02:04
eythianguidan, hrm, gam_server seems to be a very poorly documented program. You can probably get away with just killing it.02:04
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guidanok02:04
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lllmanulllSuseUX, Yes, it is one of Ubuntu's main concerns, and I really think it's the right approach02:04
lllmanulllMoving towards average users02:05
sarkieIm trying to install mysql, do I need the client and server?02:05
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guidaneythian: thanks it work now02:05
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sarkieand do i install the 4.1s or the ones with the ubuntu icon next to it?02:05
oxezSuseUX: right02:05
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SuseUXlllmanulll, cannot fault it, asks the questions that should be asked02:05
guidanbut i still want to know where i can fidn the cd burner with out blank cd02:05
kbrookssarkie: want me to check?02:06
terasurferdoes anybody know how i can disable or avert gam_server long enough to umount a drive?02:06
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sarkiekbrooks how?02:06
kbrookschecking as we speak02:06
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lllmanulllsarkie, I guess you should install the ones with Ubuntu logos in priority, that's generally a good idea02:06
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Alpha232i guess no one wants to help with a dhcp issue then... so be it... it just sucks that both windows machines boot up just fine but when i run the live CD's, dhcp doesn't work under ubuntu02:06
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sarkieAlpha232, what is wrong02:06
SuseUXCominng from Slackware, it was smooth transition02:07
eythianguidan, open a file broswer window (like home), go to 'places' in that, and it should be there02:07
kbrooksmmm strange02:07
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kbrooksbrb02:07
LazyAngelanyone knows the command to make fat32 partition un linux?02:07
sarkiebut ubuntu is now my main os02:07
green_earzAlpha232: you could use etherconf to setup your network card and DHCP  its a commad line app. and are you behind a dhcp router ?02:07
guidaneythian:what folder u think its in?02:07
criticalmass120can u use kde for ubuntu02:07
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graymankubuntu02:08
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criticalmass120o nm02:08
criticalmass120lol02:08
criticalmass120what about fluxbox02:08
apokryphosyes, you can02:08
apokryphosboth02:08
SuseUXThe installer is just great, no need to click and setup with GUI interface02:08
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Alpha232green_earz:  is that installed on the live cd?02:08
eythianguidan, I don't know. I don't think it's a real folder. (the mac has a real folder, and it's a _stupid_ idea)02:08
graymanyou can install them yes02:08
apokryphosinstaller is dang ugly, and pretty lacking, but it's not too difficult02:08
graymanand use02:08
sarkiecan i use kde apps in gnome and vica versa?02:08
apokryphosyes02:08
sarkiethought so02:08
graymanyou only need the libs02:09
Alpha232green_earz: like right now, i tried to do it manually by editing the interfaces file and adding iface eth0 inet dhcp02:09
Nilehelp!02:09
SuseUXanyone know what the nvidia panel is called in Synaptic?02:09
whatsupwiththisanyone else having problems with the live cd on mac?02:09
lllmanulllLazyAngel, That would be mkfs, but you need to find the right option for the file system02:09
lllmanulllLazyAngel, fat I believe ?02:09
Alpha232green_earz: that worked all of once and never again02:09
eythianwhatsupwiththis, the one time I tried it it was real slow02:09
guidaneythian: i see 3 folder 1.nautilus 2.nautils-cd-burner 3.nautilus-sendto02:09
mark__hey guys - How do I delete a folder if its owner is root? I have the root password02:09
lllmanulllNile, What's going on ?02:09
sarkiefair enough, only problem i had with synaptics is it not redownloading a file, had to manual remove it wish there was an otopin02:09
whatsupwiththisafter it's setup, the screen is just blank02:09
sarkiemark__ sudo -s02:09
Xenguymark__: rm folder02:09
ColonelKernelyeesh - I put some new cflags in and recompiled my kernel and my system is screaming fast02:10
lllmanulllmark__, You might want to do this with the command line02:10
Nile(lllmanulll): need help on installing ubantu02:10
Xenguymark__: er rmdir folder02:10
green_earzAlpha232: sorry i know if its on the live cd. but you said that you have installed ubuntu on to the drive ?02:10
Alpha232green_earz: when i run dhclient manually, i see the DHCPDISCOVER, OFFER and REQUEST, but never get the ACK02:10
ColonelKernelthanks for your help yesterday02:10
graymanmark__, sudo rmdir folder02:10
lllmanulllNile, decribe your problem :)02:10
Xenguymark__: else -> rm -rf folder (careful!)02:10
LazyAngelis vfat the same as fat32?02:10
eythianwah? where do you see that? In mine, if I go to places from a nautilis window, there is CD/DVD creator, and it opens up empty.02:10
green_earzAlpha232: sorry i do not know if its on the live cd.02:10
Nile(lllmanulll): ermm, do i need to install it on a different hdd or something ?02:10
Xenguymark__: s/folder/directory (this is *nix :-)02:10
Alpha232green_earz: lol well grub fscked up my Win2k install so i am trying to recover that first since my install cd's are in storage02:10
kbrookseythian: drag02:10
guidaneythian: i see it in /usr/share/02:10
lllmanulllNile, You can either install on a different hdd, or have several partitions on a same hdd02:11
whatsupwiththisanyone know why the live cd, after startup and all, the screen is just blank, but i hear responses from clicking02:11
sarkieAlpha232, in what sence it "fsked" up your win2k??02:11
lllmanulllNile, Do you have WIndows already installed ?02:11
guidanwhat do u mean by places02:11
eythiankbrooks, I know :) I was explaining :)02:11
eythianguidan, huh?02:11
kbrookseythian: dnd rules02:11
Nile(lllmanulll): if i have like four, C: D: E: and F:, so i can install it anyone of those ?02:11
kbrooksdrag and drop02:11
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Nile(lllmanulll): yep win xp is there02:12
bimberiLazyAngel: I think you need to specify it with something like "mkfs.vfat -F32 ...."02:12
lllmanulllYes, that would be good02:12
guidanu told me to go to "place"02:12
mark__Xenguy when I do sudo -s02:12
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guidanwhat u mean by that02:12
Xenguyguidan: s/u/you/02:12
sarkie Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)02:12
sarkie<--odd i wonder if i need to restart for the service02:12
mark__Xenguy and then rmdir it says the dir is not empty02:12
lllmanulllNile, First, save everything that is on F, for example, and prepare for everything on it to be deleted02:12
whatsupwiththisso how do i install it on a partition of an external?02:12
kbrooksguidan: menu on top02:12
Alpha232sarkie: well the grub loader won't even load right now after win2k started02:12
lllmanulllThen you can install ubuntu on this free space02:12
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guidanohh i c02:12
kbrookssarkie: linux isnt windows02:12
guidanbut i dont see it02:12
eythianguidan, open up, say, the home window. On that window there is a menu called 'places', in that menu there is an option called 'CD/DVD Creator'.02:12
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Xenguymark__: you need a 'force' and a 'recursive' then (careful!) -> rm -rf dir02:13
Nile(lllmanulll): so like i have to have one whole drive empty for installation ? and it wont mess with the data on other drives ?02:13
eythianguidan, it's not on the places menu at the top for some reason02:13
guidantheres no option in there02:13
sarkiekbrooks, yes but it still needs the services02:13
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Xenguymark__: you blow it away, it doesn't come back :-)02:13
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nicedreamsCan someone help me setup my SATA RAID using the software RAID durring the Ubuntu Hoary installation?02:13
lllmanulllNile, Hmm, what do you mean by "drive"02:13
oxezsarkie: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart?02:13
kbrooksNile: unless you tell iyt to that is02:13
green_earzAlpha232: you are better installing linux on to a box with out any OS on it untill you get more working skills with linux installing02:13
Kris_kTrying to play a dvd movie but hte playback is all glitchy and slow, it says DMA is enabled and i have the FGLRX driver installed, x800 vidcard 64 bit cpu, Steaming Video plays fine, it also messes up in XINE02:13
guidani see desktop, home folder,computer etc..02:13
mark__Xenguy that worked perfectly thank you02:13
eythianguidan, hmm. Maybe it only appears if you've put a blank CD in before or something02:13
Nile(lllmanulll): err i meant a partition F: for eg.02:13
Xenguymark__: yw02:13
lllmanulllNile, I guess usually a drive is a whole hard disk : another drive is just another piece of hardware02:13
sarkieAlpha232, you cant load grub after installing win2k again, explain a bit more since you can repair your mbr from the 2k cd just need more info02:14
lllmanulllNile, Yes, right02:14
eythianguidan, I think you've got the wrong meny02:14
lllmanulllNile, Well, you just need some free space02:14
kbrooksnile: no drive letters in linux btw02:14
Nile(lllmanulll): kool, thanks a lot man02:14
nicedreamsKris_k: Try using VLC Player.  I started using that and it got rid of most of my video/dvd problems02:14
guidan?02:14
eythianguidan, not the one at the top of the screen, one at the top of the Nautilus window02:14
Kris_kNicedreams EVERY player does the same thing i tried vlc02:14
Alpha232umm green_earz, i am very familiar with installing linux, i've done it for quite a few years, this is the first with unbutu and a deb dist...02:14
lllmanulllNile, And if your hdd is already partitionned into C, D, E, F, using F is good02:14
mark__Xenguy, Hey how do I install skype?02:14
lllmanulllNile, No problem02:14
guidani dont even see Nautilus window02:14
kbrookslllmanulll: first off02:14
LazyAngelbimberi: thanks02:15
Xenguymark__: I don't use non-free software (someone else might know)02:15
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lllmanulllmark__, check out http://www.ubuntuguide.org/02:15
mylastmorninganyone use wine?02:15
bimberiLazyAngel: yw :)02:15
Xenguymylastmorning: #winehq02:15
kbrookslllmanulll: when you boot with the ubuntu cd, you are in a temporary linux environment02:15
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mark__Xenguy, I found it but Skype is free02:15
Alpha232green_earz: more that i should use a box without an os, not knowing what the install of HH would do...02:15
Xenguymark__: not free as in freedom, no02:15
lllmanulllkbrooks, Is that a question ? :)02:15
guidanohhh i see it02:15
kbrookslllmanulll: hint: make him clear on mounting and stuff02:15
eythianguidan, :)02:15
graymanmylastmorning, what about wine?02:15
Alpha232green_earz: off to download a 2k boot disk, and then off to work for 8 hours of hell02:15
kbrookslllmanulll: no not a question02:16
guidaneythian: thanks alot02:16
eythianguidan, np02:16
mark__Xenguy, eager to understand. Could you explain more02:16
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Xenguymark__: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html02:16
mylastmorninggrayman, when I try to install flash mx 2004 it gives me a ikernal.exe error.02:16
green_earzAlpha232: yes learn on a spare box first. and all the best02:16
Xenguymark__: good place to start :-)02:16
guidaneythian: just to let u know its under "GO"02:16
guidanhehe02:16
kbrooksgreen_earz: gone ;)02:16
DualBoot4LifeCan somebody help me?02:16
green_earzok02:16
lllmanulllDualBoot4Life, Sure :)02:17
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lllmanulllDualBoot4Life, Just ask your question02:17
graymanmylastmorning, as i said earlier. wine is not stable and many apps wont work on it02:17
kbrooksDualBoot4Life: just ask02:17
remyforbes777how do you uninstall xorg and install xfree8602:17
lllmanulllremyforbes777, If you have Breezy, I wouldn't recommend that02:17
mark__Xenguy, I see now, free = open source right? Is Gizmo Project "free" then?02:17
Xenguyremyforbes777: you probably don't want to if you can help it02:17
graymanmylastmorning, or will work not in a way you expected02:17
kbrooksremyforbes777: do not do it in breezy02:17
remyforbes777i have ubuntu  6402:17
eythianguidan, oh. It's 'places' on mine02:17
DualBoot4LifeI have my Pentium II system configured with 2 hard drives to boot either Windows 2000 or Ubuntu...02:17
lllmanulllmark__, Open source is not necessarily free as in "free beer"02:17
kbrooksmark__: Free Software != Open Source02:18
remyforbes777this is why i want to do it02:18
DualBoot4LifeIs there a way I can mount m,y Windows drive in Ubuntu?02:18
graymanmylastmorning, and what flash you try to install?02:18
kbrookslllmanulll: openn source is free as in speech02:18
lllmanulllkbrooks, right :)02:18
graymanmylastmorning, its for viewing or making flash?02:18
remyforbes777i have an amd laptop with an ATI video card, Knoppix uses Xfree86 vesa and it works fine02:18
mylastmorningmaking flash grayman02:18
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Xenguymark__: depends on who you talk to - I generally say 'yes' e.g. FOSS = Free and Open Source Software.  RMS (Richard Stallman) of FSF (Free Software Foundation) would chew me up and spit me out for using that phrase ;-)  To each their own02:19
remyforbes777ubuntu uses xorg and it freezes at login all the time02:19
mark__kbrooks, I will read further because I would like to understand. Meanwhile, I just ran killall gnome-panel, and the gnome anel did now start back up, solution?02:19
kbrooksmark__: huh.02:19
Xenguymark__: I don't know about Gizmo02:19
ConfuzzledHey all02:19
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sarkiedarn mysql dont work02:19
mark__Xenguy, would you read what I asked kbrooks and help me out02:19
Xenguymark__: try pkill instead02:19
guidaneythian: sorry to bother again but when i put a dvd video in i can't access the rom it says"Unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted"02:19
mark__Xenguy, I need to start it back up not kill it again02:20
Xenguymark__: ahh02:20
eythianguidan, umm. I don't know. I've never tried to play a DVD video on this.02:20
mark__Xenguy, go tit02:20
eythianguidan, I'll have a go02:20
Confuzzledanyone know how to get ubuntu to use the laptop mouse?02:20
guidanok thank02:20
mark__Xenguy, I just had to type gnome-panel ... such a newb02:20
guidantake care02:20
guidancan any one else help me?02:20
Xenguymark__: heh02:20
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mylastmorninggrayman, are you their?02:20
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kbrookswhats with sigint and sigterm? interrupt and terminate are conceputally the same, no?02:20
lllmanulllguidan, Sure, about what ?02:21
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graymanmylastmorning, well. looks like macromedia has some issues with making their software for linux02:21
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graymanmylastmorning, what you mean?02:21
eythiankbrooks, sigterm is untrappable02:21
guidanlllmanulll: opening dvd02:21
mark__Xenguy, I take that back. When I close the console I launched gnome-panel from gnome-panel closes... work around please?02:21
mylastmorningyou weren't replying grayman, I thought you might of went afk02:21
graymanno02:21
graymani was investigating02:21
Xenguymark__: append this -> &02:21
lllmanulllguidan, Have you tried to read it directly (with totem for instance) without mounting it ?02:21
mylastmorninggrayman, do you have any solutions to solve my problem?02:22
Xenguymark__: that backgrounds the job -- should work02:22
guidanlllmanulll: i try click open the drive itself02:22
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lllmanulllmark__, gnome-panel &02:22
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mark__nope02:22
graymanmylastmorning, one is dual boot. second is to find someone who had success installing flash on wine and third is try to find a linux equivalent02:22
lllmanulllguidan, Do you have the same problem with every DVD you try ?02:22
nicedreamsCan someone help me setup a SATA linux software RAID with a fresh install of Hoary?02:23
ubuntumarkhello room im wondering if anyone has good suggestions on books good for a newbie to linux? (besides the dummie and idiots book series)?02:23
guidanit give me this02:23
guidanUnable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted.:02:23
guidanmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,02:23
guidan       missing codepage or other error02:23
guidan       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try02:23
guidan       dmesg | tail  or so02:23
lllmanulllguidan, I mean, video dvds02:23
guidanyes02:23
mark__Xenguy, lllmaul, nope didnt't work02:23
kbrooksguidan: so try it02:23
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kbrooksdmesg | tail02:23
Xenguymark__: use the '&', and just leave the terminal open then02:23
guidankbrooks try what?02:23
mark__lol02:23
Seveasguidan, please don't paste in here02:23
graymanmylastmorning, im trying to find something to help you tho02:23
eythianwhat repository is libdvdcss2 in?02:23
Seveasthere are pastebins for that02:23
kbrooksguidan: i gave the command02:23
guidanseveas sorry02:23
lllmanulllmark__, Do you already have a panel running ?02:23
Pickle_Weaselthere is no "terminal" option on breezy when you right click on the desktop, there is a package to enable this, but i forgot its name, does anyone know?02:24
Seveaseythian, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/02:24
ParadoxxSeveas: are you one person?02:24
lllmanulllmark__, to remove the running panel : gnome-session-remove gnome panel02:24
kbrooksParadoxx: yes he is02:24
lllmanulllmark__, But it is relaunched automatically02:24
mark__Xenguy, I knwo you don'y know skype but do you know why after I installed it and it is in the menu it still will not run when I click it.  lllmanulll, no panel is not running02:24
guidankbrooks: can u give it again02:24
nicedreamsCan someone help me setup a SATA linux software RAID with a fresh install of Hoary?02:24
guidani didn't get it02:24
ParadoxxSeveas: lol, that seems like a weird question its just that, everytime i come to this channel he is here....02:24
kbrooksguidan: i already gave it, just after i said 'so try it'02:25
SeveasParadoxx, no, I'm a bot :)02:25
Xenguymark__: sorry, I won't support non-free software (to each their own ;-)02:25
Pickle_Weaseldoes anyone know the package name to enable the "terminal" option in a right click window?02:25
Paradoxxrather you are here...02:25
eythianSeveas, will that work in hoary?02:25
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Kris_kTrying to play a dvd movie but hte playback is all glitchy and slow, it says DMA is enabled and i have the FGLRX driver installed, x800 vidcard 64 bit cpu, Steaming Video plays fine, it also messes up in XINE Tried VLC tried Mplayer02:26
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Seveaseythian, no02:26
nicedreamsKris_k: try another window manager or gui.  I02:26
Seveasmaybe hoary-extras has one for hoary...02:26
mark__Will anyone help me with an error I get after installing skype?02:26
eythianSeveas, OK. Where can I get libdvdcss2 for hoary?02:26
nicedreamsKris_k: I've had weird problems in Gnome from Hoary and when I use Fluxbox...everything always works02:26
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kbrooksSeveas: are meta packages trivial to make? ;)02:27
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Seveasmaybe hoary-extras has one for hoary... <-- eythian02:27
anethemahey Kris_k, back again eh02:27
anethemahehe02:27
nicedreamsKris_k: Like I can't play quake if I'm in gnome, but it launches fine in Fluxbox02:27
Seveaskbrooks, extremely02:27
Kris_kim always here02:27
bimberiPickle_Weasel: i think it's nautilus-open-terminal02:27
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anethemai stil think your problem is DMA related if you can play dvd stuff from the hard drive, but not from a dvd-rom drive02:27
Pickle_Weaselthank you =)02:27
bimberiPickle_Weasel: yw :)02:27
anethemai would look at your actual dvd device02:28
nicedreamsCan someone help me setup a SATA linux software RAID with a fresh install of Hoary?02:28
anethema/dev/hdc or hdd02:28
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Kris_kmy dvd is still being crappy everybody instaid of trying to fix my prob is sending me to get diffrent progys or diffrent Guis so now my hd is filled with unesscary packages lol02:28
eythianSeveas, nope, it's 40402:28
TedLemonIs there an automated build system for Ubuntu, or is it more that everybody has a special package they know how to build, and it's build in pieces, collectively?02:28
mark__How do I install a .deb package?02:28
TheWahbinatordpkg -i packagename.deb02:28
thrice`mark__, man dpkg02:28
anethemadpkg -i <file>02:28
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bimberiKris_k: i think there's a package you can install to get rid of unnecessary packages :P02:29
Kris_klol02:29
nicedreamsCan someone PLEASE try to help me with this RAID02:29
remyforbes777anyone help me with my x problem02:29
TedLemonwhat's your x problem?02:29
mark__thrice, anethema says dpkg -i which one should I do?02:29
CosmoDadis there a documentation for people that want to switch from debian to ubuntu? something like "what changes for debian users"?02:29
remyforbes777>here it goes02:29
anethemaeveryone said dpkg -i02:29
anethemaheheh02:29
thrice`mark__, dpkg -i file.deb02:29
Seveaseythian, what is 404?02:29
eythianSeveas, 404 file not found02:30
Pickle_Weaselfor some reason when i go into repositories from synaptic, i don't have a check box next to them, how can i fix this?02:30
bob2nicedreams: you're using linux software raid, right?02:30
Seveaswhich file...02:30
SuseUXOMG02:30
remyforbes777i have an amd 64 laptop with an ATI video card, when boot knoppix , x works fine,02:30
eythianFailed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/ubuntu-seveas/hoary-extras/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found02:30
bob2CosmoDad: "the gnome menus use sudo, and ubuntu is not generally compatible with Debian .debs"02:30
nicedreamsbob2, yes   I am in the install where you partition the disks right now02:30
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TedLemonnice02:30
SuseUXbeagle just works :-)02:30
bob2CosmoDad: that's about it02:30
remyforbes777when i try to boot to ubuntu 64 on my hard drive , right at the ubuntu splash screen it locks02:30
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mark__How do I list the files in a directory:?02:30
TedLemonwhich version?02:30
Seveaseythian, I never said it was on my server...02:30
Seveas!hoary-extras02:31
ubotuI heard hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted02:31
TedLemonbreezy or hoary, I mean02:31
remyforbes777now looking in my log files, there seems to be a problem with x02:31
bimberiPickle_Weasel: click on "Settings" in the repositories window and check "Show disabled software sources"02:31
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nicedreamsbob2, there is the option to configure software raid, but i'm more confused trying it that way02:31
remyforbes777hoary02:31
bob2nicedreams: perhaps it's not worth bothering with02:31
TedLemonhm, ok.   I had trouble making hoary work on my Sony too.02:31
eythianSeveas, ah :)02:31
TedLemonHave you tried burning a breezy colony 5 cd?02:31
nicedreamsbob2, i need for a server i'm doing though02:31
bob2nicedreams: or you should explain which bit in particualr is confusing you02:31
Pickle_Weaselthanks again bimberi, i forgot all about that, i feel silly02:31
remyforbes777no02:31
nicedreamsbob2, i've been making a lot of servers and I really need RAID for these people02:31
sambagirlubuntu is all messed up02:31
remyforbes777they have that in 64 bit02:32
CosmoDadbob2: wow that's not much. If ubuntu is not compatible to .debs, how can you use debian's software basis?02:32
kbrookssambagirl: oh? how?02:32
TedLemonI'd suggest you try that - it might work better.   I think they do, yes.02:32
bimberiPickle_Weasel: yw, and don't :)02:32
lokuhello peeps...02:32
sambagirlnoting works now02:32
bob2CosmoDad: you don't02:32
bob2CosmoDad: you use ubuntu's02:32
bob2win: 4602:32
TedLemonI'm running breezy very happily on my Vaio now.   :')02:32
remyforbes777and whats it called again02:32
nicedreamsbob2, Do I setup the raid then install ubuntu or do I install ubuntu on the first drive then copy it to the second drive and then try to raid it afterwards?02:32
CosmoDadbob2: I read that every ubuntu release is based in sid...02:32
TedLemonIf only kmail wouldn't crash.02:32
sambagirli installed all these things suing sanitptic and now nothing allows me to even logon root or anything.02:32
sambagirlwhole desktop just not work.02:32
lokupls. help...how do i change the resolution of the login page02:32
mylastmorninggrayman, where is the config of wine?02:32
sambagirlnothing works.02:32
bob2CosmoDad: indeed02:32
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sambagirlDetails: Failed to execute child process "gksudo" (No such file or directory)02:32
TedLemonbut don't panic - that's the only thing I've had trouble with, which is pretty good all things considered.02:33
sambagirlthese kinds of errors02:33
remyforbes777whats that called again Ted02:33
graymanmylastmorning, look in pm02:33
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predius_can anyone recommend a good terminal font which works with utf8?02:33
bob2CosmoDad: ubuntu rebuilds almost every package from Debian and puts it on archive.ubuntu.com02:33
eythiansambagirl, open up a terminal and type 'which gksudo'02:33
CosmoDadbob2: so how's that done? are the .debs automatically transformed to ubuntu's format? and what's ubuntu's packaging format called, actually?02:33
sambagirli must reinstall02:33
HrdwrBobpredius_: the default02:33
CosmoDadbob2: ok02:33
mylastmorningwhat grayman, I don't understand.02:33
TedLemonhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-5/02:33
funkyHatsambagirl, apt-get install gksudo :P02:33
kbrooksCosmoDad: the incompatibilites are namely in the depends02:33
predius_HrdwrBob: it's awful02:33
sambagirli cannot open a terminal file not found errors and things.02:33
graymanmylastmorning, private message02:34
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dooglussambagirl: use a virtual console then02:34
sambagirlDetails: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/gksu.desktop': File not found02:34
bob2CosmoDad: the format is identical02:34
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funkyHatsambagirl, recovery mode (the boot option)?02:34
kbrooksCosmoDad: a debian package requests a earlier version of foo, a ubuntu package requests a latest version02:34
bob2CosmoDad: it's similar to how .debs from sid generally don't work on sarge (ie the dependences won't be satisfiable)02:34
kbrooks(example)02:34
sambagirl???02:34
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TedLemonbob, is there an overall build system, or do you just build individual packages?02:34
eythianOK, how do you make totem play DVDs?02:34
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remyforbes777thanks Ted02:34
sambagirlvirtual logon?02:34
TedLemonsure02:34
sambagirlrecovery?02:34
dooglussambagirl: press control-alt-F1, log in, type "type gksudo" then press alt-F7 to get back to X02:34
CosmoDadbob2, kbrooks: ok. so if I can't use .debs directly, what about software availability: is it much less than a debian rep?02:34
kbrooksCosmoDad: you can  use .debs02:35
CosmoDadkbrooks: oh I can?02:35
bob2CosmoDad: about the same02:35
dooglusyou can use ubuntu .deb files, and some debian .deb files.02:35
kbrooksyou just cant use *debian packages built for debian*02:35
HrdwrBobCosmoDad: the 'universe' repository has most software in it02:35
bob2TedLemon: hm? ubuntu uses an automated build system to build them all.02:35
nicedreamsbob2, Do I setup the raid then install ubuntu or do I install ubuntu on the first drive then copy it to the second drive and then try to raid it afterwards?02:35
CosmoDaddooglus: what's the difference between a debian .deb file and a "debian package built for debian" ?02:36
dooglusyou see, ubuntu uses the same extension as debian, but has broken binary compatibility!02:36
HrdwrBobnicedreams: setup raid in the installer02:36
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TedLemonthe reason I ask is that there are some bugs in kmail, and I'd like to fix them, but I totally don't grok how packages are built.02:36
HrdwrBobdooglus: no, that's incorrect02:36
lokuanyone: how do i change login resolution for low resolution monitor02:36
HrdwrBobdooglus: 'binary incompatibility' is a misnomer02:36
kbrooksCosmoDad: ubuntu uses apt02:36
dooglusCosmoDad: the format is the same, but they are built against different versions of C and C++ libraries02:36
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nicedreamsHrdwrBob: So I pick "configure software RAID" in the installer?  I'm in the installer at the partitioner now02:36
kbrooksapt uses .deb02:36
kbrookssome packages depend on c/c++ libraries02:36
Ersai_what would cause ubuntu to reject my attempts to connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 on one machine and be fine on the one next to it?02:37
nicedreamsHrdwrBob: Do I have to setup anything before that, because it erros out02:37
bob2CosmoDad: as above, the dependencies differ02:37
bob2Ersai_: sounds like a local problem02:37
kbrooksand they differ between ubuntu and debian02:37
Ersai_it is but im unsure of why02:37
TedLemonwhat kind of rejection are youg etting - connection timeout or connection refused?02:37
Ersai_there is no configuration difference between the two systems, except one is running windows and one is running ubuntu02:37
Ersai_refused connection02:38
TedLemonwow02:38
CosmoDadso are you ubuntu guys packaging stuff mainly by yourself, or are you waiting for debian packagers to bundle software so you can later "port" it to ubuntu?02:38
kbrooksCosmoDad: its not a "port"02:38
kbrooksCosmoDad: both02:38
CosmoDadkbrooks: that's why I quoted it02:38
bob2CosmoDad: much like debian,. ubuntu basically has everything you want in it already02:38
CosmoDadbob2: yeah I just wanna know how you do that02:39
Ersai_ok, booted up laptop with ubuntu on it on same network and it connects fine as well.02:39
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dooglusCosmoDad: I think the vast majority of packages in ubuntu are re-builds of existing debian packages02:39
TedLemonCosmoDad, the difference is just what version of the software is being built, and also in some cases local configuration tweaks to present things ubuntu-style.02:39
CosmoDadbob2: I can't imagine there're as many ubuntu developers already as in debian02:39
bob2CosmoDad: what?02:39
bob2CosmoDad: ubuntu automatically rebuilds the debian source packages on ubuntu02:39
CosmoDadbob2: ... but I could be wrong, sorry if I02:39
XenguyCosmoDad: there is interchange back and forth -- it's all based on the source code ultimately02:39
bob2CosmoDad: so it has every package Debian has, except for the oens that don't compile anymore02:39
kbrooksCosmoDad: those ubuntu developers contribute to debian too02:39
TedLemonCosmodad: so it's not so much that there is any porting going on, as that the builds are for more current revs of the libraries, etc.02:39
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bob2hm, not so much02:39
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kbrookswithout the source code, how could a package be built for a system?02:40
kbrooksa specific system02:40
CosmoDadkbrooks: true02:40
kbrookswith specific compile settings02:40
TedLemonNono, a specific ubuntu build, not a specific computer.02:40
bob2CosmoDad: plus ubuntu has "multiverse", a section of the archive full of stuff Debian (mostly) doesn't have02:40
kbrooksbob2: whats the point of 'uni' and 'multi'?02:41
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CosmoDadbob2: so that multiverse contains packages ubuntu people built that debian maintainers haven't ye?02:41
CosmoDadt02:41
seifeHi02:41
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seifeHow do i switch from my speakers to my Headphones?02:42
kbrooksuniversal .. hmm, yup. what about for multiverse? what is the point of it?02:42
bimberikbrooks: multiverse is nonfree aiui02:42
Kris_khow do you set dma again to yes ?02:42
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kbrooksbimberi: or may be free02:42
seifeHow do i switch from my speakers to my Headphones?02:42
kbrooks*may*02:42
GnuKemistseife, I think you do that by pluging each device to the proper port in the back of your pc02:42
lllmanulllseife, Have you tried Sound & Video --> Volume control ?02:42
kbrooksKris_k: hdparm -d1 /dev/hda02:42
bob2CosmoDad: no, they're generally things debian people did, but didn't put in Debian (e.g. christian marillat's stuff)02:43
seifeBoth are plugged..02:43
Ersai_fixed it02:43
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GnuKemistseife, have u unmutted them?02:43
bob2kbrooks: uni = unsupported free software, multi = unsupported non-free software02:43
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CosmoDadbob2: oh ok, that's very convenient02:43
kbrooksbob2: then why 'multiverse' (the name)?02:44
green_earzCosmoDad: check out the link for dvd of deconf where mark shuttleworth gave a talk about debian and ubuntu > http://www.debian.org/events/2005/0710-debconf   the link for the dvd images is down at the moment02:44
maxkelleydoes anyone have an idea of when 5.10 is coming out?02:44
GnuKemistmaxkelley, oct. 1302:44
kenEDENTIFY02:44
CosmoDadso ubuntu provides its own infrastructure of repository servers which are totally independent of deb reps?02:44
kenidentify02:44
Kris_kman i tryed it in both dvd players it does the same thing :(02:44
misfit_toywhat is the apt-get name to get beep media player skins?02:44
sproingiemy goodness, those folks at opera are slick.  i expected just "a linux version"02:44
Kris_kworks on windows so i dont think its the dvd drives02:44
seifei actually im not having sound on my USB headphones02:44
sproingiethey have packaged for like every version of every major distro02:45
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amiasmisfit_toy, you could use 'apt-cache search beep ' to find possible targets02:45
bob2kbrooks: it was made after universe did, and is supposed to be "beyond" that (lame pop physics joke)02:45
kbrookssproingie: yeah very slick02:45
kenneed help getting wine to run.... where is after I install it??02:45
misfit_toyamias, k thanks02:45
bimberiCosmoDad: yes - (<mirror>.)archive.ubuntu.com02:45
kbrooksbob2: it is!02:45
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CosmoDadgreen_earz: cool I will02:45
green_earznp02:45
Xenguyken: OPI: /join #winehq02:46
GnuKemistken, type whereis wine02:46
kenwhat does opi mean..02:46
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kbrooksOPI?02:46
kbrooks!opi02:46
ubotukbrooks: What?02:46
kenwhere do I type it?02:46
malvok, i updated to breezy, and now my soundcard doesn't show a master02:46
Xenguyken: Of Possible Interest02:46
Xenguyken: or type 'which wine'02:46
GnuKemistken, open up a console window02:46
malvand consequently, I hear nothing from the speakers02:46
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kenok02:46
eythianken: winehq.org , they have debs.02:46
bimberiCosmoDad: this page might be of interest too - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/02:47
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zeroverseto open up "console window" go to applications > accessories > terminal02:47
kenalready installed.... just can find it in menu.. or02:47
GnuKemistmalv, how about pcm?02:47
malvpcm is there02:47
malvmaster is not02:47
Xenguyubotu: OPI is er, from memory, that would be -> Of Possible Interest02:47
ubotuokay, Xenguy02:47
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CosmoDadthe main reason I'm thinking about switching to ubuntu is that I heard HP was building linux-"compatible" notebooks together with ubuntu devs02:47
kenok thanks... kinda new to linux and stuff.. thanks02:47
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misfit_toyhmmm, no beep skins in repos, oh well02:47
CosmoDadbimberi: thx I started reading that02:47
GnuKemistken, sometimes an icons doesn't get created for the applications you install02:47
Xenguy!OPI02:47
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, opi is er, from memory, that would be -> Of Possible Interest02:47
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bimberiCosmoDad: yw :)02:47
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cevizoglukewl, recovered ubuntu after a windows install :)02:47
GnuKemistmisfit_toy, try to get skins for xmms02:48
GnuKemistmisfit_toy, they both work02:48
misfit_toyGnuKemist, alrighty then, thanks02:48
GnuKemistmister_roboto, yw  =)02:48
zblachhey. i have a logitech wireless kb with media buttons. how do i use em with xmms?02:48
GnuKemistmisfit_toy, yw02:48
CosmoDadso can anyone comment on whether HP notebooks and ubuntu support all hardware aspects like win32 does?02:48
smoI don't appear to beable to switch virtual terminals anymore .. regardless of option dontvtswitch in xorg.conf - am I missing some new detail with xorg?02:49
GnuKemistCosmoDad, I had a HP laptop and everything worked... the only thing I never cared to check were the function keys on top02:49
zeroversewell, i don't have a single HP component in my box and all hardware works02:49
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zeroverseso i imagine if HP is going to work with any linux distros they won't have a very tough time getting things to work since they probably already do02:50
cevizogluCosmoDad: you should check out the ubuntu laptop support wiki02:50
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amiasCosmoDad, take an ubuntu livecd to your local laptop shop and see what works02:50
misfit_toyGnuKemist, the weird thing is the only audio players that work since tuesday's update are totem and beep, xmms and amarok went on holiday. strange.02:50
XenguyCosmoDad: linux-laptop.net02:50
kurtbecCosmoDad: if you want a laptop with good linux support I would take a look at an ibm02:50
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HrdwrBobCosmoDad: dependsonthe model02:50
HrdwrBobbut yes,IBM02:50
VeRiTToHI02:50
GnuKemistmisfit_toy, update to Breezy?02:50
misfit_toyGnuKemist, yeah02:51
GnuKemistmisfit_toy, haven't taken the plunge yet02:51
XenguyCosmoDad: thinkpads have a good track record02:51
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CosmoDadkurtbec: I've had my experience with Thinkpads, there're quite well supported, just wondered if HP's linux campaign makes things even more smooth02:51
GnuKemistmisfit_toy, if no solutions, file a bug02:51
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kurtbecif only ibm had some better multimedia hardware it would be great but I guess that really isn't their target market.02:51
amiasGnuKemist, its quicker and more stable on my laptop and desktop02:51
kurtbecCosmoDad: I'm working on an hp right now and I can guarantee it will be the last.02:52
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HrdwrBobGnuKemist: snap :)02:52
CosmoDadkurtbec: how come?02:52
misfit_toyGnuKemist, yeah, I know...just wondered if anyone else has seen this.02:52
VeRiTToHOw Can I download to manpages-es? but from windows02:52
GnuKemistamias, breezy?02:52
breakthestatedoes ubuntu come with any webcam software?02:52
CosmoDadcevizoglu: can you give me the URL of that wiki?02:52
GnuKemistHrdwrBob, hehe  =)02:52
amiasGnuKemist, yup02:52
CosmoDadkurtbec: do you have one of the newer, "HP-Linux-supported" ones?02:52
GnuKemistamias, looking forward to the "jump" next Thursday02:52
Xenguyo/~ Let them eat war! o/~02:52
kurtbecCosmoDad: Its not quite two years old and I've had to replace the mousepad, the cdrom and now the screen is starting to flicker.02:52
kurtbecand I'm pretty careful with it.02:53
amiasGnuKemist, tis nice , make sure you add usplash :)02:53
VeRiTToHI02:53
CosmoDadkurtbec: that sucks02:53
GnuKemistamias, will remember that... I will then update my desktop too02:53
VeRiTTohelp me please!02:53
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VeRiTToHOw Can I download to manpages-es? but from windows02:54
cevizogluCosmoDad: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam02:54
erirlarhi, is there a way that i can right klick on the desktop so that the gnome menu popps up?02:54
CosmoDadcevizoglu: thanks02:54
cevizogluCosmoDad: cross-ref that with linux-laptop.net02:54
kbrooksVeRiTTo: packages.ubuntu.com02:54
TedLemonWeird, there doesn't seem to be a dchroot package for breezy.02:54
bimberiVeRiTTo: http://packages.ubuntu.com  - search then downoad02:54
kbrooksbimberi: Faster than u XD02:54
kurtbecCosmoDad: yes it does.  Ibm's are built like tanks.  Hopefully Lenovo continues to produce quality laptops because their ibm desktops have gotten really cheap since they started producing them.02:55
bimberikbrooks: hehe, not hard, but it did type more :P02:55
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bimberibut typoed :/02:55
sambagirlok i did a live cd boot that other thing threw me02:55
kurtbecanyone recompiled their kernel and been able to keep the nice ubuntu splash in there?02:56
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sambagirlsomeone said i could do recovery or type Top02:56
cevizoglukurtbec: uhhh... the t series from ibm has had very few problems.. and that's with around 30 laptops over a couple years02:57
CosmoDadwell guys thanks for the starter. Gonna try out ubuntu these days.02:57
XenguyCosmoDad: recommended :-)02:57
bimberiCosmoDad: you jolly well should, after all that :)02:57
kurtbeccevizoglu: I agree t's are nice.02:57
kurtbeci said their desktops have gotten very cheap since Lenovo started building them not their laptops, yet...02:58
sambagirlso i must format and start over i suppose... losing everything...02:58
jmgcevizoglu: 30 laptops over a couple of years to me sounds lioke problems. :)02:58
sambagirlok02:58
VeRiTTobut How to install manpages-es02:58
erirlaris there a way that i can right klick on the desktop so that the gnome menu popps up?02:58
jmgsambagirl: whats broken?02:58
cevizoglujmg: for 30 people?02:58
SeveasVeRiTTo, apt-get install manpages-ed02:58
SeveasVeRiTTo, apt-get install manpages-es02:58
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jmgcevizoglu: ahh.. lol02:58
kbrooksgparted02:59
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abidin!02:59
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, abidin02:59
abidindpasd02:59
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jmgparted hosed my box02:59
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seifeHow do i switch from my speakers to my Headphones?02:59
jmg!lart abidin02:59
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guidanhow do i use wine?02:59
Xenguybye02:59
sambagirleverything02:59
VeRiTTobut i download manpages-es-extra_0.8a.orig.tar02:59
kurtbecdrink it02:59
TedLemonFirst you take out the cork.   Then you pour it in a glass.03:00
sambagirli guess i willl just format and start over.03:00
breakthestateso i'm reading the linux howto for webcams, my modules are already loaded i believe, what software should i use with my webcam, any suggestions?03:00
cevizogluubotu, AOL CD's are good for nothing03:00
ubotucevizoglu: okay03:00
TedLemonAllow time for it to breathe.03:00
sambagirlbbl chao03:00
cevizogluhehe03:00
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sambagirlcanont even do a root logon03:00
kbrooksjmg: not appropriate to lart03:00
bimberiVeRiTTo: it's available in ubuntu's universe repository03:00
sambagirlbye03:00
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SeveasVeRiTTo, you thtow that away again03:00
Seveasand install the manpages with apt-get03:01
kbrookswhats gtkmm?03:01
Xenguykbrooks: apt-cache show gtkmm03:01
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kurtbecbreakthestate: xawtv is a pretty common app to use with webcams.  usually comes with motv which has a better interface.  think there is also a gtk based on gtcam or something like that.03:01
mylastmorninghello?03:01
TedLemondoes anyone here know how to set up a build environment hosted on breezy?03:01
VeRiTTobut this pc is not in ubuntu03:01
SeveasTedLemon, apt-get install build-essential03:02
dooglusTedLemon: install "build-essential"03:02
SeveasVeRiTTo, then why in earth are you asking questions in here?03:02
breakthestatekurtbec: thx, is there a default webcam dev name in /dev for ubuntu?03:02
bimberiVeRiTTo: then download via packages.ubuntu.com, transfer to ubuntu machine and "sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb"03:02
TedLemonSeveas, dooglus, so just build without chroot?03:02
breakthestateor is it just /dev/video?03:02
SeveasTedLemon, pbuilder is an easy chroot system03:03
kurtbecbreakthestate: that or /dev/video003:03
TedLemonok.03:03
VeRiTTobecause, My pc is not on internet, and this pc is far way from my house and here there is internet03:03
SeveasTedLemon, info on hoe to set it up can be found in the wiiki03:03
breakthestatekurtbec: hmmmmmmmm, maybe all my modules aren't loaded03:03
TedLemonYeah, the wiki starts with dchroot, thus my confusion.   :')03:03
SeveasVeRiTTo, right, take bimberis advise then03:03
kurtbecwhat kind of cam breakthestate03:03
lllmanulllmylastmorning, hello :)03:03
TedLemonI will see if I can get going by saerching for pbuilder.03:03
breakthestatelogitech quickcam03:04
VeRiTToSeveas thanks!03:04
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kurtbecbreakthestate: dmesg tell you anything good?03:04
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breakthestatekurbec: yeah03:05
smoIs there anything obvious in xorg that'd stop me switching to virtual terminals (besides the dontvtswitch that's designed to do that).  I haven't been able to do so since hoary, and it's wearing thin03:05
dooglusI installed a .deb package and then deleted the .deb file.  Can I somehow get a list of its dependancies now?03:05
breakthestatekurtbed: is there a pastebin people here use a lot?03:05
dooglus!paste03:06
ubotu[paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text03:06
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kurtbecguess so... ;-)03:06
mister_robotosmo: I just now did it on my laptop that is upgraded to breezy. works here too on hoary. how are you trying to switch?03:06
breakthestatekurtbec: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/283403:06
smomister_roboto: ctrl+alt+Fn (same way as I have for _years_)03:07
bimberidooglus: dpkg -p <package>03:07
smo(Fn being F1, F2, etc, not a funky laptop function key)03:07
mister_robotosmo: hmmm... it just plain works on my two machines.   <shrug>  don't know what would break that03:07
dooglusbimberi: thanks.  i'll try that.03:07
bimberidooglus: yw03:07
seifehow do i install the msttfonts pack?03:08
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Madpilotseife: isn't it in Multiverse repo?03:08
mister_robotosmo: sure you don't have a stuck shift, ctl or alt key or something?03:08
Xenguyseife: I couldn't find it last time I looked03:08
bimberiseife: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts (in multiverse)03:08
amiassmo: i had that problem , go to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard  and change alt-win key behaviour in the shortcuts layout options tab03:08
smopretty certain, they work for everything else (and switch just fine once gdm's stopped)03:09
Xenguyseife: let me know if you find them - I'm pretty sure I couldn't see them03:09
dooglusbimberi: it lists information, but conflicts with what 'debfoster' tells me.03:09
mister_robotoamias: good to know that little trick!03:09
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seifeXenguy, i couldnt see too, ive been looking for em since two days ago.03:09
seifeMadpilot, i got all my repositories updated03:10
mylastmorningdoes anyone not recommend installing Americas Army?03:10
seifeI dont see the package.03:10
Xenguyseife: and multiverse is enabled for you?03:10
bimberidooglus: sry, not sure about that :|03:10
seifeI would like to know how to switch from speakers to headphones, ive both plugged, i just hear the speakers03:10
amiasmister_roboto, it bugged me for ages !03:10
smoamias: Looks like that's getting me closer to the root problem .. every option I change in there, I get n error dialog feeding me "Error activating XKB configuration."03:10
seifeXenguy, how do i enable multiverse? you mean on the repositories?03:10
Xenguyseife: yes03:10
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seifeYes. they are03:10
Xenguyseife: /etc/apt/sources.list03:10
breakthestatekurtbec: ???03:11
Xenguyseife: sounds like the same problem I was experiencing03:11
Xenguyseife: and hoary, yes?03:11
seife Xenguy: Yes.03:11
Madpilotseife: running Hoary or Breezy?03:11
amiassmo, does your /etc/x11/xorg.conf file mention xkb ?03:11
Xenguyseife: nod03:11
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rob__hey everybody03:12
dooglusI'm having a problem with debfoster: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2835  Can someone help me please?03:12
smoamias: Not at all03:12
amiassmo, that'll be it03:12
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mylastmorningQUESTION, when installing America's Army, what should the install path and the link path be?03:12
seifeMadpilot, Hoary.03:12
seifeXenguy, hoary is f0x0red.03:12
amiasmylastmorning, oh don't tempt me ;-)03:13
mylastmorningamias, do you know?03:13
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breakthestatekurtbec: maybe i didn't load all the right modules?  i didn't find my USBID on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras?highlight=%28webcam%2903:13
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dooglusmylastmorning: I think he was tempted to tell you just where you can 'install' america's army03:13
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rob__quick questions: you know that program under System-Administration Menu called Boot, or Boot Manager that was part of Breezy for a while?  What happened to it?  What was that programs name?   How can I re-install it?    (I can modefy lilo pritty easily manually, but Grub is a whole new process)03:14
Madpilotseife: I'm still running Hoary too. Let me check if the msfonts are still around...03:14
mylastmorningdooglus, where should I install the link path???03:14
thompaanybody know how to add a port 8443?03:14
mylastmorningdooglus /usr/sbin?03:14
amiasmylastmorning, no but i'm tempted to say back in america but its probably not the answer you wanted03:14
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dooglusmylastmorning: I've not idea, sorry.03:14
mylastmorningcrap03:14
dooglusthompa: what do you want to add it to?03:14
mylastmorningamias... do you know where to install link paths?03:14
smoamias: Restarted with those added; now I'm getting the same error dialog when I login to gnome  (altho xprop shows the settings have taken hold)03:14
mylastmorningamias, /usr/sbin?03:15
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thompausually i add it to the end of my ip address in a browser :844303:15
thompait opens plesk03:15
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kurtbecbreakthestate: have you tried a v4l viewing app?03:15
breakthestatekurtbec: would a restart help? does ubuntu attempt to autodetect usb devices and load the right modules if present?03:15
dooglusthompa: so what's the problem?03:15
amiasmylastmorning, if you don't know where to put it then a safe bet would be to make a directory in your home dir and put there , minimal chance of damage03:15
breakthestatekurtbec: sry no, but i figured it wouldn't work since i can't find /dev/video*03:15
seifeMadpilot, ok, im here waiting..03:16
rob__no buddy knows what I am talking about?03:16
Lord_Maynothdoes anyone else have  problems after using synaptic to update their hoary install?03:16
thompacould not connect03:16
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amiassmo, breezy or warty ?03:16
Lord_MaynothI have formated twice03:16
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mylastmorningok amias.03:16
Lord_Maynothand evertime I update it screws it up03:16
kurtbecbreakthestate: do you see v4l in the output of lsmod?03:16
smobreezy03:16
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amiassmo, or indeed hoary03:16
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thompado i need to sudo it or something?03:16
Dr_FateI don't like the auto update reminder03:16
rob__Lord_Maynoth, my laptop randomly crashes on me when running synaptic (been running breezy fro a while)03:16
kurtbecbreakthestate: reboot won't do any good.   closest thing you could do is unplug it from usb port and then plug it back in.03:17
smoamias: It's been like this since the transition to xorg.  I've been tempted to re-install, but for odd reasons I'm attached to a very particular version of lvm03:17
dooglusthompa: is 'plesk' installed and running?03:17
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Madpilotseife: the ms ttf stuff seems to be gone from all the repos03:17
thompayes03:17
Lord_Maynothlike my add/remove programs locks up03:17
thompaon a remote server03:17
Lord_Maynothif I update using synaptic03:17
Lord_Maynothanyone else get that03:17
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Lord_MaynothI posted in the forums03:17
Madpilotseife: you can double check packages.ubuntu.com if you like, but it does seem to be removed03:17
Lord_Maynothand other people had the issue also03:17
dooglusthompa: can you connect to that server from any other machine?03:17
Lord_Maynothbut no one knew how to fix it03:17
Lord_Maynothother than reformating and not updating03:17
thompadoodlus: I just did on my notebook03:17
thompaill try it again03:18
amiassmo, is it at all non standard ? (e.g. laptop , wireless keyboard , bluetooth , etc )03:18
crimsunLord_Maynoth: does it occur with aptitude and apt-get as well?03:18
seifeMadpilot, can u link me?03:18
rob__Lord_Maynoth: running both at once? dont they both use apt-get?03:18
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seifeMadpilot, can u link me?03:18
Lord_Maynothyeah synaptic is just a front end for apt-get03:18
Madpilotseife: http://package.ubuntu.com and then search there...03:18
crimsun(no, it's a frontend for libapt)03:18
Lord_Maynothmy bad03:18
Lord_MaynothI dont use apt-get its lame03:19
thompaman this is bad. i got some 6000 spam messages03:19
Lord_Maynoth:P03:19
crimsunplease test with aptitude and see if you can reproduce it03:19
Lord_Maynothif you look on the forums there are others also who can reproduce it03:19
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rob__so does anyone know what that graphical Grub Boot Manager was called?   i would like to re-install it03:19
smoamias: Fairly normal .. MS internet keyboard, all ps/2 (I do like their hardware  hehe)03:19
eythianI have an address that I use with the wine app database and bug tracker, and it mostly gets spam offering cheaps microsoft and adobe products :)03:19
Lord_Maynothhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6487203:19
emmarob__: it was a component in gnome-system-tools03:20
thompamail server is fked totally now03:20
mister_roboto!grub03:20
ubotu[grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting03:20
rob__emma: thank you.03:20
amiassmo, should be pretty normal i think03:20
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crimsunthat thread is less than helpful03:20
emmarob__: boot admin was disabled (not built) because it was not working properly03:20
smoamias: I'll be back in 5. Going to create a fresh user account to see if it's my settings or X's03:21
erirlaris there a way i can right klick on the desktop so that the gnome menu will pop up?03:21
amiassmo, good idea03:21
rob__emma:  oh dear thats a problem, when it uninstalled for some reason my default grub settings were wiped out is there any replacement type program?03:22
amiaserirlar, you could bind it to the windows key03:22
erirlaramias, how can i do that?03:22
thompadooglus: no my plesk is broke. nevermind03:22
dooglusthompa: what is plesk by the way?03:22
Chambers`hmm..even with the upgraded Evolution, i still think there is somethig wrong03:22
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erirlaramias, nevermind i got it ;)03:23
amiaserirlar,  System->Preferences->Keyboard third tab03:23
WhyvasLThow do i get the kernel sources installed?03:23
thompalike cpanel03:23
WhyvasLTthe one in synaptics is old03:23
seifehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/x11/msttcorefonts <= im here, where do i download03:23
dooglusoh, right03:23
thompaits a control panel for domain admin or server admin etc03:23
thompanice bright gui icons.03:24
amiasWhyvasLT, 'sudo apt-get install linux-sources-x.x.xx' where x is the version you want03:24
WhyvasLTamias, thanks03:24
amias!kernel-sources03:24
ubotuamias: I give up, what is it?03:24
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apprenticehello03:24
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kbrooksamias: add it if you like03:24
thompadooglus: i was testing an open relay and got spammed really bad it seems,  now smtp mail is broken03:24
bimberiseife: click on the word "all" in the download section (under "Architecture")03:25
amiasubotu, kernel-sources is 'sudo apt-get install linux-sources-x.x.xx' where x is the version you want03:25
ubotuokay, amias03:25
Skelatorhey,... I'm on Breezy.... what do I need to do on 13th october?03:25
Lord_Maynothformat03:25
Lord_Maynoth:P03:25
HrdwrBobhave a party03:25
N17R0rofl03:25
dooglusthompa: I guess that's what happens to open relays...03:25
Lord_Maynothinstall windows98 instead03:25
kbrooksLord_Maynoth: please don't joke around...03:25
N17R0im dist-upgrading atm03:25
dooglusthompa: still, if you ever run out of viagra...03:25
Lord_Maynothjust kidding03:25
thompastupid mistake on my part03:25
WhyvasLTCouldn't find package linux-sources-2.6.1203:25
amiasSkelator, sit back relax and watch the rest of the world catch up03:25
N17R0perl: warning: Setting locale failed.03:26
N17R0perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:03:26
rob__Skelator: you could system - administration- update manager03:26
seifebimberi, i downloaded it, now what.03:26
seifewhere do i have to unpack those files03:26
thompaback to work seeya!03:26
amiasWhyvasLT, try kernel-sources , linux-sources is there for breezy03:26
WhyvasLTok03:26
Lord_Maynothdo you guys think they will auto-detect and mount your windows volumes by the time dapper drake comes out?03:26
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WhyvasLTamias, same thing03:27
crimsunWhyvasLT: if you're on Hoary, you want linux-source-2.6.1003:27
WhyvasLTim on breezy03:27
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HrdwrBobyou probably don't wnat the full source03:27
HrdwrBobonly the headers03:27
crimsunit's linux-source-2.6.12, then.03:27
crimsunnot -sources-03:27
eythianseife: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts03:27
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WhyvasLTcrimsun, thanks03:27
amiasWhyvasLT, have you run 'apt-get update' recently ?03:28
bimberiseife: are you doing this on an ubuntu system? why not enable the multiverse repository and use apt-get/synaptic and get and install it03:28
bimberi?03:28
WhyvasLTnever03:28
laforge/etc/X11/xorg.conf is suppose to point to where is breezy?03:28
WhyvasLTi use synaptics03:28
WhyvasLTsynaptic03:28
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crimsunlaforge: it's not a symlink03:28
laforgecrimsun what do you mean?03:28
bimberiseife: anyway, to install  -  "sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb"03:28
crimsunlaforge: I mean it's a conffile; it doesn't "point" anywhere.03:28
amiasWhyvasLT, do the update first to get the new package list , 2.6.12 is pretty new03:28
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laforgewell bimberi last night told me it should point to somewhere, crimsun03:29
amiasWhyvasLT, and your cached package list is to old to know about it03:29
crimsunerm, what is it supposed to "point" to?03:29
WhyvasLTyeah it's working now03:29
crimsunit has dozens of configuration fields03:29
bimberilaforge: no, that's not right03:29
WhyvasLTi need this to compile ndiswrapper right?03:29
WhyvasLTor do i just need the headers?03:29
laforgebimberi: ?03:29
crimsunWhyvasLT: just the headers.03:29
amiasWhyvasLT, dunno , never tried it03:30
seifebimberi, i cant dunno why03:30
WhyvasLTcrap03:30
crimsunWhyvasLT: aren't you using ndiswrapper-source in Breezy?03:30
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seifebimberi, explain me please i have the package and i dont know where to unzip03:30
crimsunWhyvasLT: better yet, why not just use ndiswrapper that's already compiled?03:30
WhyvasLTi just downloaded the current one off the website03:30
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crimsunWhyvasLT: ndiswrapper-utils03:30
joetheodd!cedega03:30
ubotuhelp for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page03:30
bimberilaforge: that forums page said to edit xorg.conf and modify the fonts section to point to the correct location of your fonts03:31
Chambers`hey guys, after setting up Evolution to use an exchange server, i get this error.  Anyone know what it means or how to fix? "Error while scanning folders in" Exchange Server Home" Could not connect to Evolution Exchange backend process: no such file or directory"03:31
bimberiseife: you don't need to unzip it.  just download the file somewhere and run the command i told you03:31
ksmurfI tried to add p4-clockmod for startup to init.d but it doesn't start? How do I do it or where can I find a how-to on adding modules(if that what this is)03:31
laforgebimberi: ohh, did check the forum page, just copyed what you sent, let me check it out03:31
seifei ran it03:32
seifeDrectory dont exist03:32
seifeThats what it tells me03:32
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ksmurfI have to modprobe every time and then powernowd03:32
ksmurfany ideas?03:32
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bimberiseife:  please paste the command you ran and the error to a pastebin03:32
bimberi!pastebin03:33
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:33
seifeok sec03:33
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jsubl2Chambers you on breezy03:34
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Chambers`jsubl2: yes i am03:35
Chambers`with the latest updates03:35
bimberilaforge: from my reading of it you need to change the FontPath entries in xorg.conf from /usr/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/fonts (or whatever that page said).03:35
don824chanhey guys i have a slight problem trying to install a program called gmask, as it is only japanese03:35
Chambers`just d/led like 232MB worth this morning :P03:35
jsubl2Chambers`: check out this thread  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6529303:35
Chambers`ok, thanks03:35
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Pickle_Weaselwhat's the firewall name?03:37
don824chandoes anyone here speak japanese who can help me?03:37
Pickle_Weaselthe built in one03:37
Pickle_Weaseli can't think of it03:37
N17R0firestarter?03:37
bimberiPickle_Weasel: iptables? firestarter?03:37
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Pickle_Weaseliptables, that's it03:37
Pickle_Weaselthanks once again ^.^03:37
bimberi:)03:37
WhyvasLTwhat package is the kernel headers?03:37
WhyvasLTkernel-headers-2.6.12 ?03:38
bimberiPickle_Weasel: you've been asking Q's within my limited knowledge set :)03:38
laforgebimberi: my FontPath is set to /usr/share/X11/fonts/03:38
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Pickle_Weaselhaha, i know how that goes, i installed ubuntu, knew nothing about it, learned some basic things in a matter of 2 days, come in here for help, and ended up helping 5 people myself03:38
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don824chani think i'm following the instructions but i get tons of error messages when i try to "make" the gmask03:39
bimberilaforge: ah, and does that directory exist?03:39
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laforgebimberi: yes03:39
[troin] hello03:39
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[troin] i've got trouble with my ubuntu linux, It cannot connect to my wifi network03:40
bimberilaforge: darn, then that's probably not the issue then :/03:40
laforgebimberi: this one doesn't /usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic03:40
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laforgebimberi: and this one /usr/share/X11/fonts/CID03:41
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DanglyBitsok...how do i setup firefox 32 bit and flash 32 bit in 64bit ubuntu?03:41
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marcellusDanglyBits: a chroot environment is what I did03:42
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Dr_WillisDanglyBits,  :P now ya know why i just use the 32bit disrtos...03:42
DanglyBitsI am just trying out ubuntu...gentoo user usually...its one command line to get both in 64bit gentoo03:43
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wickedpuppyanyone knows how to mount a cd in a cd so that the program that runs in that directory can access to the cd ? mount --bind /media/cdrom /new/place doesn't work03:43
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bimberilaforge: yeah, i've got some FontPath entries in my xorg.conf that don't exist either.  I don't think that this is the problem with tightvncserver sorry03:43
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don824chancan somone help me with installing a non-multiverse/universe program?03:44
seifeman F@CK ubuntu, every time i change font it get fucked up03:44
seifenow i dont see the lower bar again03:44
laforgebimberi: darn, is there another program i can try or a way around it?03:44
DanglyBitsmarcellus: any howtos on that chroot stuff for ubuntu?03:44
seifei wont reformat again03:44
seifeiwill just uninstall this SH"AW"tQWTWQ03:45
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bimberilaforge: vncserver03:45
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cycomseife: wow. good job. You really have that windows mindset down.  'If it doesn't work, reinstall.'03:45
laforgebimberi: just vncserver in terminal?03:45
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bimberilaforge: no, it's another package03:46
Kris_kwill recompileing the kernel help speed up anything ?03:46
laforgebimberi: ok03:46
breakthestateso can i just add an /dev/video0 line to my /etc/fstab folder and make up a mount director in /mnt or will that screw everything up?03:46
seifecycom, are u helping me or whut03:46
seife:D03:46
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don824chancan anyone just kind of try to help me here as i have no idea what i'm doing03:46
_n00blar_Hi all, can anyone recommend a backup program....I'd like to backup my data and some system config files to DvD03:46
wickedpuppyKris_k, unless you know what you are doing , it will screw things up more than speeding up03:46
wickedpuppy_n00blar_,  tar03:46
laforgebimberi: vnc4server or regular vncserver?03:46
wickedpuppydon824chan, i don't know what you want either ...03:46
wickedpuppypls ask03:46
don824chani've been asking03:47
don824chank03:47
DanglyBitsanyone have a howto on that chroot enviroment stuff for ubuntu?03:47
don824chani tried to install this program called gmask03:47
marcellusDanglyBits: I think I followed these instructions   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457503:47
wickedpuppyits not in anywhere ?03:47
don824chanlocated here: http://homepage3.nifty.com/furumizo/l_gmaskd.htm03:47
cycomseife: I don're really have any information on the problem, since all I have is 'I changed the font and the lower bar dissapeard. give me something to work with and maybe I will.03:47
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wickedpuppydoes it have .deb ?03:47
bimberilaforge: either, up to you03:47
laforgebimberi: ok03:47
don824chanif one was to follow that link, one would see that it is not in a roman script03:47
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wickedpuppyroman ?03:47
don824chanlike03:47
don824chanjapanese03:47
don824chanor arabic03:47
don824chanor something i don't know i think its japanese03:48
kurtbecKris_k: you may get a little bit of a speed up but it won't be anything you'll really notice.  Usually you can save on the kernel memory footprint by stripping out what you don't need and making a smaller kernel image.03:48
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don824chanbut to me it appears as random symobls03:48
fmasiHow to instal gaim 1.5 for hoary ???03:48
don824chanREGARDLESS i installed the file because i have gmask on my windows in english03:48
_n00blar_anything else other than tar..?03:48
don824chandownloaded*03:48
crimsunfmasi: just wait 7 more days fore Breezy?03:48
crimsunfor^03:48
cycomdammit. he left.03:48
fmasiok03:48
don824chanbut there is no english version of gmask for linux03:48
bimberionly 6 here :P03:48
laforgebimberi: off topic question, i installed a few games on my laptop,  but i can't find them.  Like escape from pong, etc.03:49
don824chanso i installed it and extracted it03:49
wickedpuppyok03:49
laforgebimberi: is there a way to get them in the games section of Xfce, and not having to execute from terminal?03:49
don824chanand it came with a readme file but since its not in english, i have no idea what it says except for a few commands03:49
Kris_kman i have so many problems on linux right now lol03:49
wickedpuppyinstalled and extract ?03:49
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wickedpuppyi thought extract and install03:49
don824chandownloaded excuse me03:49
don824chani used the wrong word again03:49
wickedpuppyKris_k, what kind of prob ?03:49
breakthestateKris: hang in there03:49
kurtbecKris_k: whats broke man03:49
SuseUXanyone got the nvidia driver to compile?03:49
wickedpuppydon824chan, ok you downloaded03:49
wickedpuppySuseUX, there is03:49
wickedpuppyat nvidia.com03:49
bimberilaforge: sorry, xfce is not well known to me03:50
don824chanyes and extracted03:50
Kris_klol03:50
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don824chanit came with a file called Makefile03:50
SuseUXwickedpuppy, yes I have it, but there is no kernel source for K7 kernel03:50
don824chanand i get the feeling I should do something with that but i'm not sure what03:50
laforgebimberi: ok, going to try it out, brb03:50
wickedpuppySuseUX, www.ubuntuguide.org03:50
bimberilaforge: the locate command can be useful to find things (is uses a database that you keep up to date with the updatedb command)03:50
Kris_kwell first games arnt running right in Cedega, Video Dvd's Do not play right, there will be more problems after i fix those03:50
wickedpuppydon824chan, you will have to read README03:50
wickedpuppy:P03:50
don824chanits not in english!03:51
wickedpuppyKris_k, cedega doesn't support all games03:51
Madpilotwickedpuppy: recommending the ubuntuguide is not recommended...03:51
SuseUX:-)03:51
don824chani can post the important parts in #flood03:51
wickedpuppydon824chan, now thats ... ah ... what can we do ?03:51
Kris_kwickedpuppy well im having problems in hl2 games03:51
cevizogluwhat is the difference between "suspend" and "hibernate" from the logout menu?03:51
wickedpuppyMadpilot, i know but ok ok ... would you go through the steps with him ?03:51
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wickedpuppyhl2 ? i don't think it is well supported yet ? no ? i never play windows games in linux ... i play them in windows03:52
don824chanwickedpuppy, go to flood and i'll post the instructions from readme file, it has english commands, but they aren';t working for me03:52
wickedpuppydon824chan, just pm me ?03:52
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kurtbecKris_k: whats the dvd problem?03:52
don824chan  make03:53
don824chan gmask 03:53
don824chansu 03:53
don824chan  make install03:53
Kris_kwell i tried 3 video players and they all play the dvd crappylike03:53
don824chan/usr/local/bin gmask 03:53
don824chan03:53
don824chan  make uninstall03:53
SuseUXwickedpuppy, i'm running 5.10!03:53
don824chan/usr/local/bin/gmask 03:53
wickedpuppydon824chan,03:53
don824chan03:53
wickedpuppypm03:53
Xenguydon824chan: screw off03:53
don824chan  make clean03:53
wickedpuppyprivate message03:53
don824chan03:53
don824changmask 03:53
wickedpuppystop!!!!03:53
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Xenguy /igr don824chan03:53
Kris_kwell i tried 3 video players and they all play the dvd crappylike, glitchy and squary03:53
wickedpuppydon824chan, pm = private message03:53
wickedpuppyoh boy03:53
DanglyBitsmarcellus: found the howto tried to sudo apt-get install dchroot debootstrap but couldnt find package dchroot ...using breezy badger...any suggestions????03:53
Kris_kdma is set on the drive so thats not hte problem03:54
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laforgeubuntuserver:1 (jordan)'03:54
tritiumsomebody please ping me if the channel gets flooded like that again03:54
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bimberidon824chan: /msg + paste doesn't work well.  use /query <nick> to open a separate window03:55
wickedpuppyi am pming him ... i think he is also a irc newbie03:55
mylastmorningwhen I play Americas Army I get this error, anyone know how to fix? open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy03:55
bimberiwickedpuppy: k :)03:55
mylastmorningQUESTION: when I play Americas Army I get this error, anyone know how to fix? open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy03:55
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hondjemylastmorning: killall esd, then run the AA command03:55
Cuatecohola03:56
malvwelp. spent a good 5 hours trying to figure out why I can't hear sound despite all the modules being loaded03:56
Cuatecoalguien me puede ayudar por favor??03:56
malvno luck03:56
Cuatecohola03:56
Cuatecoalguien me puede ayudar por favor??03:56
marcellusDanglyBits: Its in universe and I use breezy too03:56
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Xenguy!es03:57
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:57
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Cuatecogracias03:57
Laforge38bimberia: where would i get vncviewer?03:57
DiskgrindI need to setup the screenmagnifier, help??  cant find it in synaptic package manager.03:57
wickedpuppythey are in apt-get03:58
wickedpuppyyou can also get them in synaptic03:58
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Geno__Hello everyone03:58
Kris_kwickedpuppy well i tried 3 video players and they all play the dvd crappylike, glitchy and squary03:58
Geno__Is it normal the the dvd download does noe work anymore?03:58
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DanglyBitsmarcellus: tried universe and still cant find it03:59
wickedpuppyKris_k, i play my dvd in tottem ... all no prob03:59
N17R0Kris_k: do u have DMA enabled for ur DVD-rom ?03:59
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DavidLeeRothat the linuxworld awards in london last night, ubuntu was voted as best distro03:59
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Kris_kDMA is enabled, using another player wont work i tried 3 diffrent players an tottem doesnt even load anyways lol04:00
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Diskgrindcan someone help me install the assistive technology support?04:00
N17R0u tryed mplayer also ?04:00
marcellusDanglyBits: deb http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu breezy universe restricted multiverse main   is in my sources.list and I can find it04:00
Kris_kN17R0 ive tried XINE, Mplayer, VLC04:01
DanglyBitsmarcellus: i'll check my sources.list04:01
logikal_what are some sites for ubuntu KDE themes, I want to make it look nice.04:01
logikal_?04:01
N17R0ahh breezy dist-upgrade finished after 1 hour, goota reboot, brb :P04:01
logikal_any clues, anyone?04:01
Kris_ksee thats the biggest problem no one can fix my problems lmao04:01
SillyConeis there a way to setup mplayer so that when it is open and I double click on a video file, it doesnt open a second mplayer window, but plays that file in the mplayer that's already open?04:02
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Geno__logikal_: ask on #kubuntu04:02
Geno__Is it normal the the dvd RC download does noe work anymore04:02
Hobbseelogikal: kde-look.org04:02
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Diskgrinddo you have to install additional codecs to get DVD's to play in Totem?04:04
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alksdjfoiwahey04:04
justecowow, busy channel...04:04
alksdjfoiwaI didnt set a root password at installation04:04
TiMiDo!tell Diskgrind about dvd04:04
alksdjfoiwahow do I use su?04:04
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TiMiDo!tell alksdjfoiwa about root04:04
Kris_kwhy hasent games made in linux come out of the 2d ara04:04
pschulz01_Greetings.. what package is required to 'make gconfig' for the kernel?04:04
guidantell me about dvd04:04
VIalhola04:04
zorba64!dvd04:04
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras04:04
zorba64!root04:04
ubotuI guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo04:04
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alksdjfoiwaI just need a quick answer damnit04:05
Diskgrindwhere is hoary-extras04:05
VIalnesecito ayuda04:05
zorba64alksdjfoiwa: no spoonfeeding arounf here04:05
Geno__damnit read it, it's on the top04:05
justecoalksdjfoiwa, You probably aren'd doing yourselves any favores by getting a quick answer.  Check out http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo04:05
_jason!tell alksdjfoiwa about sudo04:05
pschulz01_alksdjfoiwa: su - 'switch user'. see 'su -h'04:06
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alksdjfoiwaDAMNIT, IT FOR MY FUCKING FRIEND... I USE GENTOO04:06
_jasonalksdjfoiwa:  chill...04:06
alksdjfoiwaI DONT LIKE UBUNTU04:06
logikal_ubotu tell logikal windows04:06
logikal_ubotu tell logikal about windows04:06
HrdwrBob!ops04:06
ubotuwell, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth04:06
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zorba64alksdjfoiwa: tell you f...... friend to get on and ask04:06
logikal_ubotu tell logikal about mounting windows04:06
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tritiumthanks HrdwrBob04:06
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logikal_ubotu tell logikal about mounting windows drives04:07
HrdwrBobnp04:07
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justecoalksdjfoiwa, Oh, I didn't understand that you were beligerant...  I'll hurry up and answer then..04:07
hondjelol04:07
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Madpilot!tell logikal_ about windowsdrives04:07
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hondjelogikal_: mount -t ntfs /dev/whatever /your/mount/point04:07
segfault2kwho is the admin of art.ubuntu.com?04:07
pschulz01_Doing a 'make gconfig' for a linux kernel gives the following error: "You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0.". What packages should i install to get these?04:07
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laforgewould it make sense that vnc4server executes but vncserver gives me font errors?04:08
Diskgrindcan someone help me install the assistive techonolgiy package????04:08
twystedpschulz01> glib and gtk ;)04:08
segfault2kwho is the admin of art.ubuntu.com?04:08
DavidLeeRothat the linuxworld awards in london last night, ubuntu was voted as best distro\04:08
pschulz01_twyste: You need '-dev' for the headers.04:08
twystedsegfault2k we heard you the first time so please wait for an answer04:08
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zorba64pschulz01_: try apt-cache search on those04:09
Kris_khow to run a .deb package ????04:09
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SuseUXDavidLeeRoth, wonder why :-)04:09
twystedsudo dpkg -i file.deb04:09
DavidLeeRothKris_k, are you wanting to install one?04:09
Kris_kyes04:09
DavidLeeRothdpkg -i xxx.deb04:09
segfault2ktwysted: can you hear on irc?04:09
segfault2k=D04:09
mark_Hey guys04:09
twystedwith text to speech i can ;)04:09
mark_How do I upgrade to breezy?04:10
segfault2kcool :D04:10
zorba64mark_: if you need to ask, better wait for your disks04:10
Kris_kgah where can i get this at libsdl-image1.204:10
pschulz01_zorba64: Have tried that .. but still not sure.04:10
segfault2kMark_04:10
segfault2kchange every hoary in sources.list04:10
segfault2kwith a breezy04:10
segfault2kand apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade as root (sudo su)04:11
twystedMark_04:11
twystedare you upgrading to test breezy?04:11
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segfault2kbreezy rocks :P04:11
DavidLeeRothi have a question?  How do you pronouncy hoary?  it has caused some pretty embarrassing moments for me.  (people callying it slutty etc lol)04:11
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segfault2kwhy ubuntu dont have a kde by default?04:12
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DavidLeeRothsegfault2k, you can download kubuntu04:12
dmlinuxHey guys how do i unlock things that are on my desktop?04:12
eythianwhen breezy comes out, will it be simple enough to update from the CD? (there is a reason for this:)04:12
twystedsegfault2k, because ubuntu is gnome based ;)04:12
synackuatorisn't like whore-e04:12
synackuator*it04:12
Hobbseesegfault2k: it does, and it's called kubuntu04:12
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eythiandmlinux, what do you mean by unlock?04:12
zorba64eythian: yup04:12
twystedeythian> it should be pretty easy to upgrade from cd04:12
eythiancool04:12
Hobbseeyeah, cd upgrade is simple04:12
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Kiwi____whats the 'easy way' to format my flash drive?04:12
Ryan_THow can i partition my hard drive without doing a clean install?04:12
dmlinuxeythian, i put my MP3s file there, and its locked, i cant move itor delete any files in it04:13
Diskgrindyou can have both GUI's in Ubuntu04:13
pschulz01_DavidLeeRoth: well.. at least it is memorable.04:13
Diskgrindboth gnome and kde04:13
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segfault2k[22:12]  <Hobbsee> segfault2k: it does, and it's called kubuntu <-- ahh :D so,  kubuntu is better? :D04:13
mark_zorba64, a link would be great. I did it once already today04:13
pschulz01_Kiwi____: To what?04:13
Hobbseesegfault2k: well, for those of us who prefer kde, yes04:13
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Ryan_THow can i partition my hard drive without doing a clean install?04:13
DavidLeeRothqtparted04:13
eythiandmlinux, hmm. Press 'ctrl-r', maybe they're not really there, and this will refresh it04:13
HobbseeRyan_T: gparted04:13
twystedryan_t we saw your question the first time ;)04:14
Ryan_Tsrry04:14
dmlinuxeythian i did, they are04:14
dmlinuxeythian has a little padlock symbol on the upper right of the icon04:14
Kiwi____pschulz01: Its corrupted i want to reformat it to FAT3204:14
Ryan_THobbsee: whats gtparted04:14
Ryan_THobbsee: *qtparted04:14
HobbseeRyan_T: partitioner, a graphical one04:14
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eythiandmlinux, oh. right click->properties->permissions. Make sure you own it.04:14
Geno__ Is it normal the the dvd RC download does not work anymore?04:15
DavidLeeRothin soviet russia, the file owns you!!04:15
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DAC1138can anyone explain to me the difference between a release candidate and the final release of breezy?04:15
mark_someone send me a link the steps the upgrading Ubuntu04:15
pschulz01_as root, mkfs.vfat <partition>04:15
twystedGeno_, are you using a bookmarked link?04:15
dmlinuxeythian i owned it , but "write" was taken off, got it now04:15
Geno__no04:15
DavidLeeRothmark_ look at the irc topic04:15
DAC1138mark_, http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy04:15
zorba64DAC1138: about  a week of bug squishing etc04:15
Geno__twysted: simply on the download page04:15
dmlinuxeythian hey do you know how to make Gdesklets run on start up?04:15
twystedDAC1138, release candidate is like a beta, final release is what you want04:15
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concept10DAC1138, like buying a new car before they put the 4th wheel on it04:16
DAC1138so the RC is nothing more than a renamed daily build04:16
twystedhehe ^5 concept1004:16
Ryan_TWhere do u get or how do i use qtparted04:16
eythiandmlinux, add it as a session program I think.04:16
DavidLeeRothtwysted, wil the cd's from shipit.ubuntu.com be the fianl release or the release candidate?04:16
twystedDAC1138 correct04:16
Diskgrindcan I get help installing the assistive technology package???04:16
DAC1138got it. thanks04:16
DavidLeeRothRyan_T google for qtparted04:16
MadpilotDAC1138: I think "release canidate" translates as "almost ready to go"...04:16
concept10DavidLeeRoth, final release of course04:16
twystedDavidLeeRoth shipit only releases finals04:16
pschulz01_Kiwi____: just don't ge tthe partition wrong. (Should be /dev/sda1 if you have no other storage attached.)04:16
DAC1138i tried the daily build about 5 days ago and it was "broken". i wont go into detail04:17
benkong2_wrk!wireless04:17
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ubotufrom memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards04:17
dmlinuxeythian, i did ,  but do i have to go to the root program or just type in Gdesklets under command ?04:17
mark_DavidLeeRoth where is that?04:17
Geno__The DVD download just shows a 403 error.04:17
Epixwow, 4'33" by Cage is an amazing song04:17
_jasonRyan_T:  gparted is available on the liveCD... I used that the other day04:17
concept10DAC1138, the daily build could be broken04:17
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DAC1138so i was hoping the "release canidate" might translate into something useable. ill wait a week though04:17
Ryan_T_Jason:04:17
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seifeHi i need help04:17
EpixBreezy killed my computer04:17
Ryan_T_Jason: so i can use it to creat partitions?04:17
AmaranthDAC1138: If you have any problems with it, now is the time to file bug reports.04:17
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eythiandmlinux, I'm not too sure, I htink just typing gdesklets as the command\04:17
Xel-Hey all!04:17
_jasonRyan_T:  yes04:17
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bob2seife: you need to ask a question, first...04:18
DAC1138Amaranth, its the same bug report i submitted wit hoary and warty, which they havent fixed04:18
concept10DAC1138, you could use a release candidate which is different from the daily build04:18
DavidLeeRothRyan_T, after you download qtparted, dpkg -i the package04:18
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AmaranthDAC1138: Got a #?04:18
_jasonRyan_T:  if you are shrinking an existing partition you may want to read some of the HowTo's because you have to defrag first04:18
DavidLeeRothif it does not come as a deb package, use alien -d04:18
concept10DAC1138, but stick to what you know04:18
Xel-I have a quick question:  I've got a Semperon machine - is it 32bit or 64bit?  I've seen it mentioned as both, and I don't want to install the wrong version of Ubuntu04:18
DAC1138Amaranth, i submitted the bug report, and they totall screwed up support for my graphics chipset04:18
Ryan_Tno, i need to make a partition04:18
Xel-Semperon 3000+04:18
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DavidLeeRothxel, its Sempron04:18
Ryan_Twait, could i use VolumeWorks?04:18
AmaranthDAC1138: Got a bug number?04:19
XenguyXel-: 32 I would guess04:19
DAC1138Amaranth, nope04:19
Xel-Hmm.  Thank you.04:19
_jasonRyan_T:  gparted will work fine then04:19
AmaranthDAC1138: Not much I can do to help then.04:19
AmaranthDAC1138: What email address did you use?04:19
Ryan_T_Jason: Could i also use VoumeWorks?04:19
DAC1138Amaranth, im not even going to mess with it anymore. i tweaked and got it working, im happy04:19
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Xel-Last question:  Any popular guide to getting Ubuntu to dual-boot on a machine that already has winxp installed? I found some instructions on the net, but I'd rather go with something that is popular than some random site that I find.04:19
bob2Xel-: if it's an am64 machine, you can install either the i386 or amd64 ports of ubuntu04:19
_jasonRyan_T:  no idea... gparted on liveCD was what was recommended to me04:20
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bob2Xel-: amd64 is "faster", but doesn't support non-free binary-only junk as well as i386 does04:20
AmaranthXel-: For the most part setting it up with winxp "Just Works"04:20
AmaranthXel-: Just make sure WinXP was installed first.04:20
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Xel-Amaranth , right.04:20
Xel-It is.04:20
bob2Xel-: ignore those instructions, the installer sets it up automatically in 99% of cases04:20
Ryan_T_Jason: ok, and it wont delete anything on my hardrive right?04:20
Xel-Ok awsome.04:20
Xel-Well now I just need to find something to resize this partition.04:20
Geno__does Visual Studio .NET work under Linux without a clone?(ex: Wine)04:20
Xel-And then I'm set.04:20
Xel-Thank you all04:20
_jasonRyan_T:  if you are creating a new partition from unpartitioned space then no04:20
bob2Xel-: the installer aslo lets you resize NTFs partitions04:20
Xel-Ohh wow, it does?04:21
HobbseeXel-: qtparted04:21
AmaranthDAC1138: What email address did you use to file the bug? If it's messing up your video completely it at least deserves to get some eyes on it, even if it doesn't get fixed for breezy.04:21
Hobbseeor the installer04:21
Ryan_T_Jason: then that creats a problem04:21
pschulz01_I'm still having problems with getting the required packages for a kernel configure..04:21
_jasonRyan_T:  what does?04:21
DAC1138Amaranth, i think it was dac1138@gmail.com04:21
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Ryan_T_Jason: Erasing my harddrive04:21
bob2pschulz01_: install build-essential, kernel-package and fakeroot04:21
DavidLeeRothi was verry impressed with the ubuntu installer being able to resize ntfs04:21
Xel-Well awsome.04:21
_jasonRyan_T:  what exactly are you going to do04:21
bimberiXel-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo04:21
e-sini wish i'd have known that before getting a copy of partition expert :/04:22
pschulz01_bob2: Cheers...04:22
Xel-Thanks04:22
Ryan_T_Jason: Install Ubuntu without erasing my current harddrive04:22
_jasonRyan_T:  so you have windows now and want to dualboot?04:22
Ryan_T_Jason: i have mac osx04:22
DavidLeeRothhave you tried yellowdog?04:22
bob2bah04:23
Hobbseeso you'll have to resize your apple partition, so that you have space for your linux ones04:23
pschulz01_bob2: I'm having problems with 'make gconfig'..04:23
_jasonRyan_T:  ok I'm not familiar with mac OSX but I'd assume that currently you have OSX taking up the whole drive right?04:23
bob2pschulz01_: then don't do that04:23
HobbseeRyan_T: so you'll have to resize your apple partition, so that you have space for your linux ones04:23
bob2pschulz01_: or install libgtk2.0-dev04:23
Xel-bimberi: The partition resize is non-destructive, right?  That guide says to back everything up.04:23
DAC1138thanks, ill try a dist-upgrade then. cya04:23
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Ryan_T_Jason: yes04:23
bob2Xel-: yes04:24
tony_the_cableguHi04:24
Amaranthack, i just found his bug04:24
_jasonRyan_T:  like Hobbsee you have to resize the mac partition and then create a new partition for linux04:24
bimberiXel-: yes it is non-destructive, but it's a good idea to back up anyway04:24
bob2Xel-: before ever doing something that drastic to a disk, tho, you should have backups04:24
Xel-Of course04:24
DavidLeeRothlike an external usb disk04:24
Ryan_T_Jason: But how do i make a new one?04:24
Xel-I just wanted to be clear that it was nondestructive04:24
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bimberiXel-: k :)04:24
HobbseeRyan_T: it will in the install04:24
Diskgrindcan I get help installing the assistive technology package??04:24
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_jasonHobbsee:  can you help Ryan_T with the mac dualboot, I don't know anything about it?04:25
Hobbsee_jason: i know similarly little - i'm not a mac user04:25
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pschulz01_bob2: have that.. found the problem. I needed 'libglademm2.0-dev'. (Or one of it's dependancies)04:25
Hobbseebut i'll try and help you, sure04:25
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Hobbsee!qtparted04:25
pschulz01_bob2: Found it via: "apt-cache search  glade 2.0 | grep dev"04:26
ubotuHobbsee: What?04:26
Hobbsee!gtparted04:26
ubotuNo idea, Hobbsee04:26
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Diskgrindyou have to add gtparted in synaptic package manager.04:26
bob2pschulz01_: erk04:26
cycomHobbsee: out of curiosity are you dual booting ubuntu with OSX?04:26
Hobbseeno, i'm dual booting with windows04:26
Diskgrindso what do you need help with?04:27
Diskgrindpartitioning?04:27
cycomHobbsee: oh, I thought it was on a mac.04:27
cycomHobbsee: what kind of machine?04:27
cycomoh! haha. had it backwards04:27
Hobbseemine?  toshiba a10 satellite laptop04:27
kbrooksgparted rules04:27
HobbseeRyan_T is the one with the mac04:28
cycomI got that now. :)04:28
Ryan_TYes, i have the mac04:28
cycomHobbsee: I have a Satellite M4504:28
jdm64HELP! I installed OpenOffce Base but when i try to make a new database it dies when insterting a table, saying: "The Connection to the data source "testdatabase" could not be established libhsqldb2: file not found"04:28
Diskgrindhobbsee   what do you need help with?04:28
cycomRyan_T: and you want to dual boot on it?04:28
_jasonRyan_T:  maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55757&highlight=osx+dual will help you04:28
Ryan_Tcycom: ok04:28
HobbseeDiskgrind: i was attempting to help Ryan_T with his dual boot04:29
Diskgrindhobbsee   sorry I was just trying to help aswell..04:29
Hobbsee:P that's ok Diskgrind04:29
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Ryan_Tcycom: this requires erasing my harddrive, thats what im tring to avoid04:29
Diskgrindcan I get help installing the assistive technology package??04:29
DiskgrindI need the screen reader and the magnifier04:30
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cycomRyan_T: you can't resize the partitions?04:30
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Ryan_Tcycom: I dont even have any set up04:30
Ryan_Tcycom: i need to make one04:31
Ryan_Tcycom: for ubuntu04:31
Kris_kare there any cool linux games ?04:31
HobbseeSo we need a mac partitioner04:31
auraxis there some opensource gui to manage a store04:31
_jasonKris_k:  Tuxracer!04:31
e-sinRyan_T, is there no mac partition manager?04:31
Diskgrindcycom    your irc'ing from window?04:31
HobbseeKris_k: ubuntuforums.org - there's a gaming subforum that you can drool over :P04:31
TedLemonI think that NetBSD has a mac partitioner.04:31
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jdm64HELP! I installed OpenOffce Base but when i try to make a new database it dies when inserting a table, saying: "The Connection to the data source "testdatabase" could not be established libhsqldb2: file not found"04:32
Ryan_Te-sin: there is, but u can only use it when with the mac osx installer durring a clean install04:32
Kris_kwhere is this subform04:32
bob2jdm64: so, go to packages.ubuntu.com and find out what package that file is in04:32
e-sinhmm04:32
kbrooksKris_k: on the ubuntu forums04:32
cycomRyan_T: you there?04:32
bob2Hobbsee: what? the ubuntu installer includes a "mac partitioner", as does ubuntu itself04:33
Ryan_Tcycom: yes04:33
Hobbseeoh does it?04:33
cycomparted can shrink HFS and HFS+ partitions, supposedly.  The start has to stay fixed though04:33
Kris_kyes i dont see a forum about gaming tho04:33
cycomDiskgrind: what?04:33
bob2Hobbsee: how else would you install ubuntu?04:33
HobbseeKris_k: it's in the second section04:33
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Hobbseebob2: good question, i wasnt sure if it did04:33
Diskgrindcycom   was just trying to help out04:33
_jasonKris_k:  under "App. support"04:34
Kris_ksecond site ?04:34
Diskgrindsince no one would help me.. I thought I would try to help others.......04:34
cycomDiskgrind: oh :) I don't have any problems, really.04:34
SD_JimmyKris_k, just go with the classic games like nethack :P04:34
DiskgrindI need the screen reader and the magnifier04:35
_jasonKris_k:  http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=5304:35
Diskgrindcan I get help installing the assistive technology package??04:35
Kris_kis there any games that are cool like some of the windows games04:35
bob2Diskgrind: so install it, jeez04:35
Paradoxxhmmm, what would b the command to add read/write/execute permissions to a file?04:35
kbrooksKris_k: many04:35
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Ryan_THow do i chose a partition to start up on to?04:35
Diskgrindbob2 ....   how?  it isnt listed in synaptic04:35
bob2Diskgrind: ?04:35
bob2Diskgrind: gnopernicus, gnome-mag04:35
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cycombob2: beat me to it04:36
remyforbes777 Paradoxx chmod 777 <filename>04:36
kbrooksKris_k: i have atomix, gweled and lbreakout204:36
Diskgrindbob2 I searched for gnopermicus and nothing..04:36
e-sinRyan_T, i think GRUB handles that later in the install04:36
Paradoxxremyforbes777: would that b for a particulay user, or all users?04:36
remyforbes777all users04:36
Paradoxxi want to add it for a particular user04:36
Kris_kkbrooks that dont run in cedega04:36
Paradoxxhow do i go about doing that?04:36
propagandhiKris_k: http://www.tuxwarez.com04:36
remyforbes777its users, groups, all others04:36
remyforbes777im sorry04:37
kbrookspropagandhi: ...04:37
remyforbes777owner, group, all others04:37
bob2Diskgrind: well, that's great, but it is in ubuntu04:37
Paradoxxi wanna add it for my user and group only04:37
bob2Paradoxx: make them the owner04:37
Ryan_Te-sin: but i can start up from my main system to ubuntu?04:37
remyforbes777chown04:37
Diskgrindbob2 can you help direct me to it pleae?04:37
kbrookspropagandhi: i question the legality of that link04:37
twysted`propagandhi> dont post warez sites here :)04:37
Paradoxxi'm the owner already, but i wanna do it for all the files in a folder04:37
bob2Diskgrind: how could I guess what you've misconfigured?04:38
bob2Diskgrind: /msg ubotu repositories04:38
propagandhikbrooks: you'd be right in questioning it i'd say04:38
bob2Paradoxx: so make yourself the owner of all the others, too04:38
Diskgrindbob2 dont be a smartass if your not going to help   dont speak.04:38
kbrooksSeveas: are you there?04:38
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kbrooks!ops04:38
ubotuI guess ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth04:38
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bob2kbrooks: ?04:38
Amaranthwhat's up?04:38
bob2Diskgrind: then read that and install it?04:38
kbrookspropagandhi posted a warez link04:38
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e-sinRyan_T, i'm not running OS X but GRUB should work the same either way.  here, at boot, GRUB shows and asks you to pick ur OS.  Ubuntu is the default choice and boots after 10 seconds if you don't select another OS04:39
Amaranthpropagandhi: Please keep this channel on topic and legal.04:39
Diskgrindbob2  what ever.04:39
remyforbes777paradox user chmod -R for recursive04:39
propagandhiAmaranth: no problem04:39
Ryan_Te-sin: thancks04:39
bob2Diskgrind: stop whinging and read it04:39
tritiumkbrooks, what's up?04:39
bob2Diskgrind: you could have installed it by now04:39
kbrookstritium: solved now, nm :)04:40
Diskgrindwell you could be better help and explain it....04:40
bob2Diskgrind: 12:38:08           bob2 | Diskgrind: /msg ubotu repositories04:40
bob2Diskgrind: stop complaining and type that into your IRC client04:40
tritiumkbrooks, ok, thanks04:40
kbrooksdiskgrind: please be helpful04:40
twysted`diskgrind i dont see how bob2 could have been more specific when he typed what to do :)04:41
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kbrooksDiskgrind: help others help you04:41
kbrooksAmaranth: thanks ;)04:41
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TedLemonOkay, so I have pbuilder set up, but when I try to get it to download the breezy packages, I get a bunch of errors and it bombed out.   The errors all seem to be complaints about apt-get update not working to add new preview CD-ROMs.04:41
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Diskgrindbob2  sorry.   what and how do I type it and where exactly?04:42
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bob2Diskgrind: 12:40:14           bob2 | Diskgrind: 12:38:08           bob2 | Diskgrind: /msg ubotu repositories04:42
bob2Diskgrind: into your irc client04:42
dmlinuxHey all, anyone have any idea why RYTHMBOX cant play my MP3s04:42
kbrooksDiskgrind: into your irc client04:42
bob2TedLemon: questions like that need to be accompanied by sources.list and full apt output04:42
_jason!tell dmlinux about restricted04:42
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jdm64bob2: I searched packages.ubuntu.com an the file was in openoffice.org2-base (1.9.129-0.1ubuntu3-0ubuntu1, 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu3) but that's already installed!!!04:43
Diskgrindrepositories04:43
_jasondmlinux:  read the link ubotu sent you04:43
kbrooks!tell Diskgrind repositories04:43
dmlinux_jason, that sucks !! omg04:43
kbrooksbob2: now your frustration is over04:43
bob2jdm64: dpkg -L openoffice.org2-base | grep whateverthefilename was04:43
TedLemonI don't mind providing that, but have no idea how to do so.04:43
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bob2Diskgrind: /msg ubotu repositories04:43
bob2TedLemon: why are you using pbuilder?04:44
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DiskgrindI dont know what that means.????04:44
Hobbseedmlinux: you can still get them, you just have to get them from another site04:44
TedLemonbecause you told me to?04:44
_jasondmlinux:  it's not difficult to install.  It's because of legal issues.  Just read that link04:44
TedLemonI need to build packages from source so that I can debug and do development work.04:44
kbrooksDiskgrind: do yuo mean you didnt run it because you didnt know what /msg does?04:44
justecoWHat flash plugin are people using?  All the ones I try work for crap....04:44
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Diskgrindcorrect04:44
bob2you're doing development work but don't know what sources.list is?04:44
bob2Diskgrind: dude04:44
kbrooksDiskgrind: why didnt you say so?04:44
TedLemonI am a programmer, not a debian wizard.04:45
bob2Diskgrind: please please please do what I literally said04:45
Diskgrindbob2 Im a noob...04:45
bob2Diskgrind: I don't care04:45
TedLemonAll my previous packaging experience is on NetBSD pkgsrc.04:45
bob2Diskgrind: /msg ubotu repositories04:45
cowbudisn't there a way to do the equiv of fdisk /mbr with linux fdisk?04:45
dmlinux_jason ok , reading through it now,04:45
bob2Diskgrind: type that into your IRC client04:45
bob2cowbud: of course not04:45
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bob2cowbud: that's a boot loader issue, not a partioner one04:45
cowbudbob2: uhh I think there is if not then how am I supposed ot remove my boot loader?04:45
bob2cowbud: e.g. grub-install if you're using grub04:45
abkhello04:45
bob2cowbud: you need to be more specific about your goal then04:45
abkis there a support questions waiting line?04:45
cowbudso if I removed the partition where grub points to how do I remove grub if I am booted to a linux boot disk with grub on it?04:46
bob2TedLemon: pbuilder is not useful for random development work04:46
erickgood day guys04:46
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kbrookswhat is pbuilder, bob2?04:46
bob2TedLemon: it's only useful for test-building packages04:46
bob2kbrooks: apt-cache show pbuilder04:46
bob2abk: just ask your question04:46
Hobbseeabk: the policy is "ask your question in plenty of detail and you will probably get an answer"04:46
abkwonderful04:46
bob2cowbud: you don't remove it.  what are you trying to put in your MBR?04:46
TedLemonRight, I need to build the package as it's being installed in breezy; otherwise what's the point?04:46
TedLemonI'm trying to fix a bug in the breezy version of kmail.04:47
cowbudbob2: linux is gone I want to fix my mbr I can't boot to windows anymore and I only have linux boot disks is it possible or do I need to dig up a xp cd?04:47
jdm64bob2: It said the file is here /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/libhsqldb2.so but I still can't make a table. Because OOo sais that it can't connect to the data source?04:47
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erickis ubuntus's openoffice possible to upgrade? lets say I want to add additional fonts04:47
bob2cowbud: so, your question is "how do I restore the windows bootloader to the mbr?"?  that does require a windows cd, yes.04:47
kbrookserick: you don't upgrade for that04:47
cowbudbob2 yah yah how does it feel to be like that?04:47
bob2jdm64: dunno then, sounds like a bug; I'd report it in bugzilla04:47
bob2wtf04:48
bob2TedLemon: you're not using breezy?04:48
Diskgrindbob2  I am using xchat     where do I typ /msg ubotu repositories?  Im not trying to be difficult.04:48
abkI have a G4 Cube, two-partition setup, did a pretty much stock Ubuntu install. Set up yaboot, etc. etc. Try and start up ubuntu and the x window server won't start up04:48
kbrookserick: you create a fonts directory in your home directory, and place the fonts there04:48
abkI just get a text login prompt04:48
bob2Diskgrind: in. your. irc. client.04:48
bob2!tell Diskgrind about repositories04:48
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bimberijdm64: could it be that the data source "testdatabase" doesn't exist (guessing)04:48
TedLemonI am using breezy.04:48
bob2Diskgrind: just read the window that popped up04:48
bob2TedLemon: then why not build kmail on your normal system?04:48
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kbrooksbob2: i tried sending it to him (using ubotu), but it gave me a error04:49
Diskgrindbob2  ok04:49
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Villahi04:49
erickkbrooks, any fonts04:49
kbrooksno kbrooks, I won't. (target invalid?)04:49
TedLemonIt's a long story.04:49
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TedLemonFirst of all, I need to make sure that I'm hacking on the correct source, so the obvious way to do that is to get the source that you guys are using to build the package.04:50
kbrooksTedLemon: do you want the latest version of a certain app04:50
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ubuntukinghello all04:50
bob2TedLemon: apt-get source kmail04:50
bob2TedLemon: (in your homedir)04:50
TedLemonOkay, that gets me what was built into the package?04:51
twystedyes04:51
bob2TedLemon: that gets yo uthe source the binary packages were built from, yes04:51
TedLemonOkay, cool.   That's a start.04:52
kbrookswhy isnt pbuilder useful for random dev work? chroot?04:52
jdm64bimberi: I'm using OOo's build-in database server (or trying to). The file testdatabase.odb does exist. OOo created it when I tryed to make a new database.04:52
VillaDoes anyone know when they plan on bringing Ghostscript-esp up to date?04:52
dmlinux_jason when i try to instal plugins it says broken packages04:52
Villaor at least into 804:52
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erickkbrooks,where can I find the additional fonts?in msoffice if you want additional fonts you will install it, in openoffice just create a fonts dir in your home directory and place there?04:52
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bimberijdm64: k (i was guessing :) ) - there is #openoffice.org btw, but it could be a bug with the ubuntu build04:53
bob2kbrooks: you don't need to for just compiling things04:54
dmlinuxWHY is it when i folow ubuntuguide and add repositories they gave me these MIRRORMAX sites that always gives me errors on synaptics04:54
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kevogod!ubuntuguide04:54
ubotuubuntuguide is probably out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.04:54
bob2kbrooks: it's useful for building things in a strictly-controlled environment (e.g. testing to make sure it will really build on the ubuntu or debian autobuilders)04:54
jdm64bimberi: I think it's with ubuntu because it work wonders in Windows!04:54
Rev-Marcgreetings to all, could someone tell me how to disable the touchpad on my laptop?04:54
bimberijdm64: heh04:54
kevogoddmlinux, Don't use Ubuntuguide, it is not affiliated with Ubuntu.04:55
twystedRev-marc look at your laptop's documentation? :)04:55
dmlinuxkevogod, what repositores should i use04:55
bob2Rev-Marc: may or may not be possible at runtime04:55
kevogod!tell dmlinux about repositories04:55
kbrooksbob2: ah ok04:55
propagandhibob2: if you remove the synaptics entry in the xorg.conf, would that work04:55
Rev-Marcthanks but when I was trying out Linspite I disabled it in the OS04:55
shadeofgreyhi everybody -- id like to know how to run the ubuntu equivelant to MS-CHKDSK -- and iwant to use the most extensive options possible... y'know... verifying directory and file structures as well as examining every block and sector for potential problems...04:56
bob2propagandhi: I dn't think that would work04:56
Rev-MarcLinspite = Linspire04:56
bob2shadeofgrey: chkdsk is not that thorough04:56
JeffraeAnyone using a (Don't Laugh.. I got it for free, but it prints like a charm) Dell 3000cn?04:56
bob2shadeofgrey: fsck will examine filesystems, tho04:56
bob2shadeofgrey: aside from reiserfs, of course04:56
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durtrev-marc, install gsynaptics04:57
dcarpenterhey guys is anyone familiar with c++ coding and able to answer a simple question for a beginner?.. off topic i know04:57
esac_i am trying to install linux-restricted-modules, and it wants me to insert the breezy cd (which i dont have anymore). isnt it able to get it from online ?04:57
TedLemonblech, this is what I was afraid of - when I type "./configure" in the sources for kdepim (which is where kmail comes from), it blows up.   so something's not right about the process I'm following.04:57
bob2dcarpenter: it's less of-topic if you just ask04:57
bob2TedLemon: did you install the build dependencies?04:57
Rev-MarcThank You I will try that04:57
bob2TedLemon: sudo apt-get build-dep kmail04:57
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kbrooksTedLemon: blows up -- define?04:57
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bimberiJeffrae: not i, but i liked the way you asked :)04:58
shadeofgreyokay... ive tried running fsck before in a root terminal and itgives me errors saying that i need to unmount the disk first, and warns me every time that if i proceed all hell will break loose04:58
dcarpenterbob2, im trying to define a phrase as another phrase04:58
Jeffraehahaha04:58
JeffraeWell I knew I would get laughed at04:58
bob2shadeofgrey: yes, of course04:58
bob2shadeofgrey: modifying a filesystem underneath the kernel would be terrible, and trying to scan a filesystem that's being modified won't work either04:58
kbrooksshadeofgrey: it will no matter what04:59
dcarpenterbasically I have 2 inputs and i want the answer of those two subtracted to be a variable04:59
bimberiJeffrae: you do need to be a bit more specific about the problem though04:59
JeffraeWell04:59
bob2shadeofgrey: if it's your root filesystem, you need a live cd, or to go to single user mode and remount / read-only04:59
diemanheh04:59
kbrooksbob2: what about mounted file systems04:59
JeffraeIT prints but it gives me PCL errors and on the window when using with ubuntu04:59
diemani fudged the ubuntu mirror @cs.umn.edu04:59
bob2dcarpenter: int result = var1 - var2;04:59
diemanits currently resyncing04:59
JeffraeI read up and saw that a newer version of GhostScript takes care of this04:59
bob2dieman: hah04:59
diemantypoed an rsync to ubuntu as 'ubuntu-releases'04:59
diemanit happily, from cron, deleted the entire tree05:00
dcarpenterso result would be my new variable05:00
bob2Jeffrae: unless it's a very serious bug, it's unlikely to be changed before breezy05:00
bob2kbrooks: hm?05:00
diemanand put cd images in their place05:00
kbrooksand i ***need*** a backup program for linux05:00
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jedediahrsync?05:00
jedediah>:)05:00
bob2kbrooks: I use rsync to my desktop05:00
Jeffraek05:00
JeffraeI have Breezy05:00
bob2joeyh seems to love duplicity, too05:00
Jeffraethe prerelease stuff05:00
dcarpenterin my case it would be 'double x = pointQy - pointQx;05:00
diemanduplicity is neat05:00
kbrooksbob2: explain how you use it?05:00
JeffraeThe GhostScript is still 705:00
Jeffraeoh well05:00
bob2the program, not the betrayal thing05:00
diemanlots of faculty members at work use unison05:01
bob2dcarpenter: ok05:01
dcarpenterth05:01
JeffraeSomeday :)05:01
dcarpenterthx05:01
Rev-MarcCan anyone tell me where to get a good "sources.list" ?as mine seems to have gotten out of wack05:01
AshenError "Read only file sysem" creating new folder <--- *cough* in home directory.05:01
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bob2dieman: I know people who use that to sync Eudora mailspools05:01
Ashenhelp! ;P05:01
bob2Rev-Marc: "out of whack"?05:01
dieman  eth0:   61.79 Mb/s In    14.64 Mb/s Out -   5652.9 p/s In    3449.0 p/s Out05:01
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bob2Ashen: read "dmesg"'s output05:01
diemanbob2: creepy05:01
Jeffraewill evolution connect to an echange server?05:01
TedLemonoh, I'm being stupid - I just don't have the right dev libs installed.05:01
bimberiubotu tell Rev-Marc about repositories05:01
dieman60mbps from heanet.it should help get this back in order05:01
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jedediahJeffrae, With an exchange connector, yes05:02
Jeffraeok05:02
tritiumJeffrae, if outlook-web-access is enabled on that exchange server05:02
bob2dieman: they trust a random bizarro reimplementation of rsync in a functional language, but not imap05:02
eythiankbrooks, the usual way to do such things in UNIX-like systems is to build yourself a custom one out of the tools provided. As such, there are really just a lot of handy tools that do one thing, like rsync and tar.05:02
Rev-Marcit was working 2 nights ago but now I get errors or something05:02
bimberiRev-Marc: some sample sources.lists in that mst from ubotu :)05:02
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bob2TedLemon: the command I gave will install them05:02
diemanbob2: haha05:02
diemanbob2: yeah05:02
Jeffraeexchange connector is not open source I beleive05:02
Jeffraeright?05:02
bob2Jeffrae: it is05:02
Jeffraereally?05:02
diemanbob2: i just know unison breaks protocol every minor revision05:02
Ashenbob2: ah... kewll "[4350915.804000]  EXT3-fs error (device hda2): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode block - inode=1553549, block=311296805:02
Ashen" looks like my hdd is aboot to esplode.05:02
Jeffraeat on time it was not I thought05:02
josh43Does anyone have wxvlc 0.8.2 compiled for a64?05:03
bob2Ashen: could be overheating or loose/dusty cables, too05:03
dmlinux_jason i updated my repos and i cant install totem-xine05:03
bob2dieman: hah, awesome05:03
diemanhttp://www.hea.net/ <-- whowa! nifty photo.05:03
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Ashenbob2: overheating maybe... what about power problems?05:03
_jason|sleepdmlinux:  you can't find the package?05:03
diemans/photo/diagram/05:03
bob2Ashen: could be05:03
diemanbob2: yeah, the heanet servers are nice.05:03
bob2that javascript scares me05:04
dmlinux_jason it says broken packages05:04
JeffraeI already have "Client Access for ibm i5 OS /iseries"  with an exchange client I could use Ubuntu at work!!05:04
winnerdoes anyone know05:04
Ashenbob2: can I just remount / instead of resetting?05:04
winnerhow i can change mouse cursors05:04
diemancrazy, heanet only has like 3x the students we do for their network05:04
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Rev-MarcI know scripture but I don't know "mst"05:04
diemanbut i guess merit is way cooler too05:04
bob2winner: system -> preferences -> mouse, or whatever05:04
diemanand they have a pile of more students05:04
_jason|sleepdmlinux:  which ones are broken?05:04
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TedLemonbob2:handy, thanks!05:04
winnerbob2: thanks. do you know any nice cursor sets?05:04
bob2dieman: merit has mroe hot nanog love05:04
bob2winner: I like the default05:04
dmlinuxSORRY FOR PASTING05:05
dmlinux_jason The following packages have unmet dependencies:05:05
dmlinux  totem-xine: Depends: dbus-1 (>= 0.23.4) but it is not going to be installed05:05
dmlinux              Depends: libhal0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not going to be installed05:05
dmlinux              Depends: libnautilus-burn1 but it is not going to be installed05:05
winnerbob2: the reason why i want to change is because for some reason, my "move window" cursor appears as a block of white pixels, sometimes a mutilated image, etc.05:05
bob2dmlinux: seriously, dude05:05
propagandhiJeffrae: doesnt evolution have the ability to connect to exchange now05:05
dmlinuxcan i get that pasting url05:05
_jason!paste05:05
ubotupaste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text05:05
jedediahdmlinux, its in the topic05:05
bob2winner: that sounds like something worth fixing instead of working around05:05
kevogodpropagandhi, Yes, but I can tell you it is not that good.05:05
bob2dmlinux: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood05:05
dmlinuxi have no titel :)05:05
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bryan___Hey this may be a newb question, but i've been having a lot of problems finding a solution on forums and google... but i've been having a lot of problems getting my wg511t working on my presario r300005:05
Jeffraehmm05:06
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winnerbob2: well, how would i fix it? :)05:06
JeffraeI thought so05:06
jedediahdmlinux, type '/topic'05:06
JeffraeI should look again05:06
jedediah:)05:06
bob2winner: sounds like a bug in X, assuming you didn't overwrite the files yourself05:06
jedediahdmlinux, just giving you a hard time ;)05:06
kevogodJeffrae, Although, your experience with Exchange and Evolution may be different from mine.05:06
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winnerbob2: to be honest, this has appeared ever since i first installed ubuntu.05:06
bryan___I've got the bus to work usin the setpci command... lspci sees my card but it doesn't show up in iwconfig05:07
bob2winner: definitely worth filing a bug about then05:07
JeffraeJeffrae05:07
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Rev-MarcI know scripture but I don't know "mst"05:07
Jeffraewanted to see something05:07
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dmlinuxjebediah i know, people need to calm down  though :P05:07
bob2bryan___: lspci will see anything physically connected to the PCI bus05:07
dmlinuxjebediah its not like tons of people paste all day05:07
bryan___I've tried auditor and i've got it working there... anyone?05:07
bob2bryan___: what does dmesg say?05:07
jvaihow i do evolution @ work.. is thru POP, & i use the the host IP addy, same for the printr, it works every time,05:07
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kbrooksHow do I mail root?05:07
bryan___um i'm pretty new at this05:07
JeffraeI know this is sounding dumb, but I think X-Chat higlights lines that are adressed to me!05:07
kbrooksmsg | mail root ?05:07
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winnerbob2: how would i go into doing so?05:07
kbrooksJeffrae: by design05:07
bob2winner: bugzilla.ubuntu.com05:07
VIalhola05:07
josh43Jeffrae: It highlights them based on having your nick in the line05:08
bryan___dmesg would give me like the hal_ath005:08
bryan___stuff right?05:08
bob2kbrooks: echo blah | mail -ssubject 3oot@localhost05:08
bryan___i don't get a hal 1305:08
Jeffraeyeah05:08
VIalnesesito ayuya en ubuntu05:08
JeffraeThat is what I thought05:08
bob2bryan___: it would tell you what is actually going on with your card, yes05:08
Jeffraethat kicks botie!05:08
Jeffraebootie!05:08
josh43one of the many things I like about xchat :)05:08
bryan___let me run that real quick05:08
winnerbob2: thanks, good looking out.05:08
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bryan___ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.05:08
bryan___ath_hal: 0.9.12.14 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212)05:08
propagandhiOpera 8.5 has an excellent IRC client now too but i dont think gnome users can use opera 8.5 well05:09
durtopera is fine with gnome05:09
_jasondmlinux:  are you using breezy or hoary?05:09
JeffraeChatzilla better then X-Chat?05:09
bryan___It would give me hal 13 or something if there was a driver problem right?05:09
dmlinux_jason breezy05:09
Jeffraeor is it a matter of opinion?05:09
Jeffraehehe05:09
winnerone more thing, bob2, do you happen to know how to change irssi's notification (you know, when someone says your name in channel) from bold to like red or something?05:09
anethemadohh! zsnes wont compile now under breezy! god damnit05:09
_jasondmlinux:  ok you added repos for hoary05:09
josh43bryan___: Hal 2000, not 13 ;)05:09
tritiumanethema, language please05:09
anethemaand apt has an old version that no one else uses05:09
anethemasorry tritium05:09
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dmlinux_jason .. are there equivilents for breezy hehe...05:09
_jasondmlinux:  the wiki sites are still setup for hoary05:10
naliothlanguage please05:10
anethemaoh wait i didnt swear05:10
bob2winner: /hilight -color whatever nickname05:10
bob2anethema: does Debian have the newer version?05:10
_jasondmlinux:  first get rid of the hoary stuff you put in there05:10
winnerbob2: ah damn. whats "whatever nickname"05:10
diemanhttp://www.hea.net/mrtg/geant.html <-- hah, its nice to make notches in peoples network graphs05:10
TedLemonbob2: for some reason when I ask apt-get to do that, it insists that it wants to deinstall skype.05:10
anethemauhhh no idea..how do i check05:10
bryan___ok well i figured it was some number... I wasn't very close hah... but should it work from what dmesg says?05:10
mylastmorningcan someone help me get a windows game working?05:10
bob2winner: whatever = whatever color, nickname = your nickname...05:10
diemanif only i had GigE on that machine05:10
bob2mylastmorning: #cedega, probably05:10
diemanand faster hard drives05:11
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dmlinux_jason done05:11
bob2bryan___: it's easier if you show us more lines in #flood05:11
bryan___ok05:11
bob2dieman: if your bottleneck is lack of gige and scsi-320, you're doing pretty well05:11
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mylastmorningbob2, can you help me?05:11
diemanbob2: yeah05:11
_jasondmlinux:  ok I was able to isntall totem-xine without adding any extra stuff so go ahead and try to install totem-xine package through synaptic... first run: sudo apt-get update05:12
diemanbob2: ive got gigE switchports05:12
bob2mylastmorning: if you're using cedega, #cedega05:12
winnerbob2: thanks05:12
diemanbob2: just need to get a card sometime05:12
mylastmorningwhat is cedega?05:12
winnersomeone say my name please05:12
anethemathe thing is, hoary built it fine05:12
dmlinux_jason doing that now05:12
mylastmorningwhat is cedega? bob2?05:12
anethemais it the new gcc messing stuff up ?05:12
josh43dieman: they are only about $0 now05:12
anethemaany idea bob2 ?05:12
dmlinux_jason says broken packages05:12
josh43dieman: $4005:12
bob2mylastmorning: what are you trying to run?05:12
diemanjosh43: yeah, i guess.05:12
mylastmorningRagnarok Online bob2.05:12
bob2anethema: more likely the code in zsnes is broken05:12
diemani should get work to buy one05:12
bob2mylastmorning: appdb.codeweavers.com05:13
diemansince tis a work box, etc ;)05:13
dmlinux_jason http://rafb.net/paste/results/BwDE6u17.html05:13
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winnermylastmorning: you're trying to run RO off Linux?05:13
mylastmorningyes winner.05:13
josh43dieman: you just need to justify it to the boss, then ;) "I could get work 3% faster with a gigE"05:13
diemanjosh43: heh05:13
bob2dieman: does work know about the debian mirror?05:13
diemani've got gige on my desktop already05:13
diemanbob2: hah, yes.05:14
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Rev-Marcsomeone a few minutes ago recomended installing "gsynaptics" but I can not find it to install any help is greatly appreciated05:14
diemanbob2: thats debian owned hw, no less05:14
diemanbob2: sitting right in the middle of a rack05:14
bob2dieman: oh, rock05:14
diemanbob2: we also have a sourceforge mirrror on campus05:14
httpdssdmlinux: what dows your sources list say ??05:14
bob2dieman: oh, wait, half of ftp.d.o?05:14
diemanwe're going to setup a general mirroring service soon05:14
diemandieman@runabout:~$ host ftp.debian.org05:14
diemanftp.debian.org has address 128.101.80.13305:14
durtrev-marc: http://sourceforge.jp/projects/gsynaptics/files/05:14
diemandieman@runabout:~$ host security.debian.org05:15
diemansecurity.debian.org has address 82.94.249.15805:15
diemansecurity.debian.org has address 194.109.137.21805:15
diemansecurity.debian.org has address 128.101.80.13305:15
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diemanbob2: and a third of security now05:15
bob2hm, I thought ftp.d.o was round-robin'd05:15
dmlinux_jason http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ki2PdF89.html05:15
diemanbob2: it was05:15
mylastmorningbob2, how do I do this?05:15
_jasondmlinux:  that is strange.  I do not have any of those packages isntalled yet I have totem-xine05:15
winnermylastmorning: any reasons why?05:15
bob2mylastmorning: did you read that website or not?05:15
diemanbob2: until they had to move it to HP from above.net05:15
diemanbob2: or something05:15
diemanbob2: im not part of d-a, or anything05:15
dmlinuxdm@dmlinux:~$ sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-misc gstreamer0.8-plugins05:15
bob2dieman: oh, right05:16
N17R0Hi can I remove gcc-3.3 and gcc-3.4 when I have already gcc-4.0 installed ? Or would this give problems when compiling new apps?05:16
_jasondmlinux:  is that your current sources.list?05:16
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dmlinux_jason yes05:16
diemanbob2: saens is doing only like 80mbps right now05:16
tritiumdieman, which campus?05:16
diemanbob2: sometimes its doing 150ish, like this morning05:16
_jasondmlinux:  it still has hoary repos in there05:16
dmlinux_ im trying to get MP3 playback :(05:16
Rev-MarcThank You DURT05:16
diemantritium: university of minnesota, twin cities05:16
diemantritium: why?05:16
diemantritium: you in the area?05:16
dmlinux_jason  i know but thats what ive been using05:16
tritiumdieman, just curious.  No, not at all ;)05:16
diemantritium: ahh, ok :)05:17
_jasonI don't think you should be using hoary repos with breezy05:17
bob2dmlinux: what does that have to do with totem?05:17
diemanreally the only thing holding up the 'general' mirror service is time05:17
httpdssdmlinux .. you are using mixed versions ..05:17
diemanwe've got hw now05:17
diemanand disk05:17
diemanjust need to set it up05:17
bob2dmlinux: and mixing hoary and breezy is silly and pointless, get rid of them05:17
dmlinuxGod gamn you ubuntu guide !05:17
mylastmorningwinner, because I want to play it.... do you know how to run it?05:17
anethemaok even with the packaged zsnes right now05:17
mylastmorningbob2, yes I did. they're asking me to pay.05:17
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tritiumdmlinux, language please05:17
anethemai am getting this error: Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)05:17
anethemaany idea why anyone ?05:18
_jasondmlinux:  I can send you my sources.list if you'd like and you can back that one up05:18
N17R0Hi can I remove gcc-3.3 and gcc-3.4 when I have already gcc-4.0 installed ? Or would this give problems when compiling new apps?05:18
bob2mylastmorning: no05:18
dmlinux_jason please !05:18
diemanbob2: i did test xfers from the debian mirror to another machine on campus05:18
bettong_BOFHbob2 why is the room blocked to tor users?05:18
diemanbob2: got it up to 780mbps+05:18
bob2mylastmorning: read it again and find out if your game will run on wine or not05:18
diemani need to find someone off campus to beat the crap out of it05:18
diemansometime05:18
diemanto see whats the bottleneck05:18
bob2bettong_BOFH: due to massive abuse and the fact I can see little point for using tor to come here05:18
mylastmorningit says that they haven't tested it.05:18
httpdssdmlinux: just change where it say hoary to breezy ..05:18
mylastmorningit says that they haven't tested it. bob205:18
winnermylastmorning: not sure if its possible or not. i've seen a .exe made for linux somewhere in the eathena forums before.05:18
bettong_BOFHoh ok05:18
bob2dieman: holy bajeesus05:18
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winnermylastmorning: never got around to running it though.05:19
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bob2anethema: sounds like the game is broken05:19
anethemadoh05:19
anethemaworked fine before breezy05:19
bob2N17R0: yes, you can remove them if you don't need them05:19
httpdssdmlinux: the ubuntu wiki can help05:19
diemanbob2: i was surprised the desktop box could handle all those packets coming in05:19
N17R0ok ty05:19
bettong_BOFHi just found out about it lol and was surprised that something to block someones privacy was banned05:19
bettong_BOFHlol05:19
diemanbob2: i *was* telling it to send em to /dev/null though ;)05:19
bob2bettong_BOFH: it's not about "block someones privacy"05:19
naliothbettong_BOFH: dont start anything05:19
nomasteryodadieman, funny how Linux can do real multitasking huh?05:19
_jasondmlinux:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/283605:19
bob2dieman: hah, I was gonna ask how fat your disks were05:19
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bob2dmlinux: you don't seem to be asking very specific questions05:20
bettong_BOFHok cool05:20
mylastmorningwinner, where is the linux.exe?05:20
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dmlinuxbob2 thats because im doing 50 things at once :)05:21
dmlinuxbob2, love the linux, so much faster than XP05:21
winnerokay. damn. anyone know why bold fonts aren't working on xterm? i'm using 'Andale Mono' as the font, sized 10.05:21
bob2winner: everything hilighted here is bold05:22
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bob2ie xterm appears to have bold issues05:22
N17R0I just upgraded to Breezy, I must say its verry nice, but u knew that already. But is it true that Breezy have a new wallpaper? Or is my wallpaper screwed up or something?05:22
winnerbob2: yeah, thats why i was trying to turn bold types into color05:22
dmlinux_jason that worked thanks man !05:22
_jasondmlinux:  no problem05:22
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dmlinux_jason i lost that wiki site with the instructions for installing mp3playback05:23
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josh43N17RO: Breezy has new wallpaper, but your user settings would override if you set one already.. just go into the chooser and choose the new one05:23
_jason!tell dmlinux about restricted05:23
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anethemaok bob2 i found the problem05:23
anethemabefore in hoary05:23
_jasondmlinux just remember that that site is for hoary05:23
anethemawhen somehting couldnt get sound, it would just not play any sound05:24
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dmlinux_jason thanks alot for your help man05:24
anethemabut now, it segfault's05:24
_jasondmlinux:  anytime... good night05:24
bob2yay SDL05:24
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anethemaALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave05:24
anethemaSegmentation fault05:24
N17R0ohh ok josh43 thx, but the old hoary wallpaper somewhere on the net? Cos I liked that one also05:24
josh43lol, why have I never used tab completion of irc names... sometimes I find things and say Doh05:24
bob2heh05:24
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josh43N17R0, I bet it is.. infact, I dont think it would have deleted it05:25
bob2think of all the wasted keypresses over the years05:25
lakinnm-applet freezes just as it asks for the encryption key.  The dialog never even gets fully displayed it just displays a blank dialog with window bar, and the applet icon freezes.  I'm running Breezy which was just upgraded to latest today.  It's never worked since I started using breezy a few weeks ago, any ideas?05:25
josh43bob2, Exactly05:25
maxkelleyhmm05:25
bob2tho, I knew about tab-completion, and it just means I spend more keypresses on other things05:25
bob2lakin: does setting a key manually work?05:25
N17R0josh43 well it looks like breezy upgrade killed the old wallpapers, cos I dont have it anymore05:26
josh43bob2, That's always the case.. once you optimize; something else 'rises to meet the challenge'05:26
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josh43N17R0, Look on art.gnome.org , or ubuntu.com05:26
dmlinuxWOOT my totem works now !!!!05:26
N17R0ok thx05:26
DavidLeeRothhey you guys05:26
kbrookshey, just a question05:26
kbrookshow can i make windows hidden? ;)05:27
HoodmanI need help finding programs for ubuntu, and how to install them?05:27
lakinbob2, I haven't tried using it with it's connection manager.  I was just hoping for it to autodetect local networks(works) and then let me use them(doesn't work).  I would try to manually setup a network, but the only one I have local access to uses WPA and the preferences dialog didn't have an option for that last I checked.05:27
DavidLeeRothrm -r -f bloatware05:27
josh43kbrooks, In what way?05:27
JeffraeI know this is a long shot, but can a windows printer driver work with linux.. I am like 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% no, but I have seen wierder things.....05:27
Jeffraeweirder05:27
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josh43Jeffrae, You would have to do some fun acrobatics05:27
durtjeffrae, use a linux driver05:28
tristanmikeJeffrae, keyboard stuck?05:28
kbrooksjosh43: and btw, if u got the impression i have windows i dont05:28
Jeffraeno05:28
bimberiubotu gell Hoodman about synaptic05:28
ubotubimberi: What?05:28
DavidLeeRothjeffrae, can you find the source to the driver (dumb question i know).05:28
Jeffraenot stuk :)05:28
bimberiubotu tell Hoodman about synaptic05:28
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bimberiD'Oh05:28
Jeffraenope I could not05:28
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Jeffraeand I can't find a linux driver05:28
kbrooksjosh43: in the ... well05:28
bob2lakin: "connection manager"? I meant, "does it work if yo uset the key up manually with iwconfig/wpa_supplicant?"05:28
JeffraePCL is almost great, but not good enough hehehe05:28
josh43kbrooks, lol, be more specific.. I assume you are saying you want to hide windows that are on the screen so that noone else can see them, and that you do not have MS windows05:28
lakinbob2, yes05:28
kbrooksessentially i want to make windows transparent05:29
durtjeffrae, often a driver for a certain printer will work with other models05:29
bob2kbrooks: install transset05:29
JeffraeI know05:29
Jeffraebut I couldn't find a good match for mine05:29
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lakinbob2, Re: connection manager, I err meant that I hadn't tried using nm-applet through manually setting up the network.05:29
josh43kbrooks, Ahh, transparent is another thing altogether.. apps can do it themselves, but I don't know how to make it if they never meant it to be transparent (xchat backgrounds do it, for example05:29
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durtwhats yours jeffrae?05:29
josh43)05:29
DavidLeeRothJeffrae, i recommend taking what ever youneed to print in linux and turning it into a pdf file and printing off windows05:30
JeffraeDon't laugh.. I got it for free but it prints like a charm...  Dell 3000cb05:30
winnerbob2: hilight only hilights the chan window number. im looking for something that would hilight the text in the channel, since bold isn't working.05:30
lakinjosh43: there a few new extensions that allow you to do that.  Search google for xorg translucency05:30
Jeffrae3000cn05:30
JeffraeThat is what I am doing now David :)05:30
bob2winner: it hilights the text, too05:30
DavidLeeRothJeffrae call me Diamond Dave ;)05:30
bob2winner: the text you just said in here is red, for instance05:30
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josh43lakin; I doubt they would work for me, tho kbrooks might enjoy that (debian hates my mobo/cpu/graphic card combo)05:31
anethemais there a way to make programs NOT segfault when they cant steal audio? dosbox is doing it too05:31
bimberilol Jeffrae05:31
anethemanothing used to do this before breezy, euain!05:31
JeffraeDiamond Dave.. That is a good resturant in Milwaukee, WI05:31
Jeffraehahaah05:31
DavidLeeRothheh05:31
winnerbob2: you see my hilights?05:31
DavidLeeRothi hate my printer, its a lexmark x5150 and there is no hope for a driver on linux ;(05:31
DavidLeeRoththats why every time i have to print something i have to reboot05:32
DavidLeeRoththats the only reason i even have windows05:32
JeffraeDavid Lee Roth is cool though... Sammy Hagar ruined Van Halen!05:32
JeffraeThat is my opinion05:32
DavidLeeRothEveryone knows that dude!05:32
DavidLeeRothVan Hagar sucked.05:32
anethemaoh well so much for multiplayer zsnesing haha05:32
JeffraeDo you run windows in a virtual machine?05:32
Amaranth*cough*05:32
durtJoe Dirt is the best movie ever05:32
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anethemaALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave05:32
anethemaFatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)05:32
anethemadoh05:33
Amaranthanethema: doesn't zsnes have a linux version?05:33
anethemayes05:33
DavidLeeRothno jeffrae.  i run linux in a vm on my windows machinwe05:33
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anethemaim trying to run it05:33
bob2winner: you're hilighted on my screen, and I'm only using /hilight05:33
anethemathats the error05:33
JeffraeMany people think I am nuts for thinking Roth Kicks Hagars ass05:33
DavidLeeRothbut i have linux natively installed on another machine05:33
st1lgardurt: no :)05:33
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winnerbob2: i don't see hilight. damn. maybe its an xterm problem.05:33
DavidLeeRothi am building a pc right now that will run ubuntu full time05:33
winnerbob2: does the words "bob2" in the front of this line come up as bold?05:33
winnerer, word*05:33
JeffraeDavidLeeRoth: Why did you choose to do it that way05:33
JeffraeIs there a Way in X-Chat to like click on the name so it comments this line to them?05:34
JeffraeLike a shortcut?05:34
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Jeffraebesides copy and paste?05:34
josh4310 pts to the person that can tell me in what log file I would find the very first error messages when the system boots: they flash by too quickly05:34
bob2winner: ? your hilights are not visible to anyone but you.  I have set my client up such that whole lines mentioning my nick are red, tho, including your nick05:34
winnerbob2: ah, yes. what is the line that you used to do that?05:35
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durtjeffrae, i suggest you try to find out what printer model the dell one is based on and use the corresponding driver05:35
anethemaim just wondering why apps are all the sudden segfaulting when they cant get audio05:35
josh43Jeffrae, Try typing the first 2 letters of thier name and press TAB05:35
Xenguyjosh43: dmesg05:35
winnerbob2: i had that functionality when i was using the gnome terminal, but i guess xterm just doesn't bold. the gnome terminal used to hilight the line and bold my name whenever someone mentions it.05:36
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gefbalsgood day to all!05:36
DavidLeeRothhey05:36
bob2winner: that's a xterm bug if it works in g-t05:36
Jeffraejosh43, Awsome!!!05:36
DavidLeeRothJeffrae you found your driver?05:36
josh43Xenguy, +10 :)05:36
Jeffraeno05:36
DavidLeeRotho:(05:36
e-sinin the console, how do you work a file with spaces?  like to copy it for example.05:36
DavidLeeRothdrag and drp the file e-sin05:36
josh43Jeffrae, I know - I just found that 10min ago by accident. lol05:37
bob2e-sin: cp "I have spaces" bar05:37
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DavidLeeRothor put quotations around the file05:37
JeffraeI do know wha this dell is under the sheets05:37
e-sinthanx bob205:37
JeffraeBut I can't find those drivers either05:37
Xenguyjosh43: yw05:37
Jeffraeit is a Xerox05:37
maxmousewould anyone happen to know why unreal tournament 2004 works fine on my radeon, yet wolfenstein enemy territory doesnt start up ?05:37
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DavidLeeRothLike "X CHAT is cool.deb"05:37
winnerbob2: yeah its an xterm issue.05:37
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DavidLeeRothe-sin that works with windows as well if you are interested :)05:38
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winnerbob2: what xterm alt would you recommend?05:38
gefbalscan anyone help me how to update my ubuntu version 5.04 to 5.10 using only the cd installation without reformatting my pc05:38
JeffraeThe Dell 3000cn is a Fuji Xerox Docuprint C525A05:38
regeyaor05:38
diemanJeffrae: wtf?05:38
bob2winner: I'd recommend filing a bug so xterm can be fixed05:38
lakinAnd how the hell to I get rid of nm-applet.  I even kill -9'ed it and it still happily restarts itself.05:38
durtjeffrae: http://www.mit.edu/~jik/3000cn/, note the line about useing the hp laserjet 5500 driver05:38
bob2I'm using xterm but are increasinly annoyed with it05:38
bob2gefbals: insert CD. follow instructions. wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes05:38
Jeffraedurt, I looked there05:38
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Jeffraedurt, I also emailed him.. He told me I need to upgrade my Ghostscript to use his patches05:39
winnerbob2: where? ubuntu bugzilla?05:39
naliothlakin: rename it05:39
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bob2winner: yes05:39
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Jeffraedieman, wtf?  What?? Dude What Up??05:40
winnerokay, i'll do that05:40
diemanJeffrae: about dell with that printer05:40
diemanJeffrae: crazy05:40
Jeffraeoh05:40
diemanJeffrae: they used to use lexmark05:40
diemanwhich were crap05:40
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Jeffraedieman, I know...  These ones are Fuji Xerox....05:40
lakinnalioth: good call, I have no idea why I didn't think of that.  Last time I just uninstalled it. :)  But I'm filing some bugs.05:40
diemanJeffrae: are all of them now?05:40
DavidLeeRothI have a lexmark.  it requires a 40 meg driver on windows, so pretty much all hope of a driver on linux is gone :(05:40
Jeffraedieman, Not all Lexmarks are crap.. I use Lexmarks with my IBM iSeries!!!05:40
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DavidLeeRothlexmark x5150 is pretty good for my needs05:41
Jeffraedieman, I am not sure dude..  I think the Ink Jets are Lexmarks still05:41
TylerDurdenhey can someone help me? i cant get xserver (or xorg) to work after boot05:41
DavidLeeRothits an ink hog though05:41
TylerDurdenlibglcore..blahblah no symbols (says that a lot of times)05:41
TylerDurdenNo matching device section (busid pci:2:10:0) found05:41
KRomeleoNare there amy ubuntu sys requirements?05:41
justecoI'm under the impression epson is fairly easy to support.05:41
durtjeffrae: so, have you done all the patching and stuff?05:41
Jeffraedurt, no05:41
DavidLeeRothtyler, does it say anything about locales?05:41
gefbalscan anyone help me how to update my ubuntu version 5.04 to 5.10 using only the cd installation without reformatting my pc05:41
TylerDurdenuhh im not sure, im in windows right now05:42
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Jeffraedurt, He told me to upgrade my GS before patching05:42
TylerDurdeni dont think it can find my radeon05:42
KRomeleoNi just received a dual p3 600mhz and was wondering how ubuntu would run on it05:42
gefbalscan anyone help me how to update my ubuntu version 5.04 to 5.10 using only the cd installation without reformatting my pc or an internet update?05:42
DavidLeeRothRTFM when it comes to breezy upgrads05:42
Jeffraedurt, he said that his patches were done to fedora and that fedora has a newer release of GS05:42
josh43gefbals, You had this answered.. dont paste questions that you dont want to solve05:42
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durtjeffrae, well then upgrade ghostscript05:43
JeffraeI tried05:43
DavidLeeRothtyler, you might want to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:43
TylerDurdeni did that05:43
Jeffraedurt, I couldn't get it to work with my printing again05:43
DavidLeeRothdid you pick a generic driver?05:43
TylerDurdenit seems to always try to default it to my onboard, which is disabled05:43
gefbalsDavidLeeRoth : what's an RTFM when it comes to breezy upgrade?05:43
TylerDurdenno i picked ati, i think the busid might be incorrect05:43
nomasteryodahey, do the fglrx drivers work with Radeon Mobility 7500?05:44
DavidLeeRothtyler, in most cases, leaving the busid blank works05:44
josh43gefbals, "Read The F@cking Manual"05:44
KRomeleoNi wwas wondering if a live cd would gfive a god idea of how the system will run when actually installed?05:44
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TylerDurdenok thanks david ill go try that05:45
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josh43KRomeleoN, Mostly, yes.. getting to the same state as a livecd can be a bit of an adventure, but you get about 90% when you install to the HD05:45
DavidLeeRothWhat radeon do you have btw?  I was thinking of buying a 9600xt sapphire05:45
DavidLeeRothare they any good?05:45
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TylerDurdenme? i have a 920005:45
DavidLeeRothi have always had radeon integrated gfx on my laptops.05:45
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DavidLeeRothare you satisfied with it?05:45
TylerDurdeni guess, its not top of the line of course05:45
TylerDurdeni have a celeron 2.5 768 ram and it works fairly well05:46
DavidLeeRothi mean its only 100 bucks and it has 256 mb memory and pretty good specs for 100 bucks05:46
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nomasteryodaDavidLeeRoth, this is a laptop... ATI stinks for most part...05:46
TylerDurdenwell mine has 12805:46
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TylerDurdenand its pci05:46
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DavidLeeRothmine will be AGP05:46
KRomeleoNshould i not even bother installing on a dual p3 600mhz?05:46
KRomeleoNorwill it be gay?05:46
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DavidLeeRothKromeloen, how much memory do you have?"05:47
pidoes anybody know how i can revert to old gtk theme settings after installing gtk2-engines-gtk-qt?05:47
KRomeleoNi think its 25605:47
KRomeleoNits anm old server05:47
nomasteryodaKRomeleoN, that should work well05:47
DavidLeeRothwell, i am running ubuntu full time on an old celery 1ghz with 128 meg, and its pretty good05:47
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DavidLeeRothif you arelooking for speed i would look at gentoo05:47
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ubuntudivx05:47
durtor slackware05:47
josh43KRomeleoN, well worth the livecd at least.. you may not like the defaults, but linux ran 110% on my 800mhz w/96MB of ram :)05:48
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josh43Is it advisable to recompile my kernel in breezy if I need to?05:49
aukis usign apt-get dist-upgrade safe now?05:49
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josh43auk: there are still fairly major daily upgrades.. I'd wait the week :)05:50
auraxis there linux based inventory app ?05:50
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malvanyone else get weird alsactl errors on boot?05:50
aukjosh43: :(05:50
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DavidLeeRothauk, why dont you just apt-get update dist-upgrade?05:50
josh43auk, Hey, I know.. I just formatted to run breezy.. I was impatient05:50
DavidLeeRothyou can always update/upgrade packages daily05:51
aukDavidLeeRoth: that's what i was saying.05:51
ibthomsonanyone having problems with apt-get connecting to the repositories? apt-get update won't connect to anything in my sources.list05:51
mylastmorningdoes anyone know the root password of ubuntu?05:51
aukmylastmorning: you know it05:51
josh43!root05:51
ubotuI guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:51
Amaranth!root05:51
naliothmylastmorning: /msg ubotu root05:52
josh43why isn't that a bot trigger? ;)05:52
aukmylastmorning: it is the password you entered on install05:52
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MadpilotPPCjosh43, it is... ubotu responded to you, too...05:52
durtauk: no it isnt05:52
aukdurt: ?05:52
nalioththe bot is dead05:52
nalioth!test05:52
ubotuCrashed.05:52
naliothyup05:52
dangaioOk, I need help.  I have installed ubuntu on a laptop dual booting to windows.  how do I mount the windows partition so I can play my mp3s?05:52
KRomeleoNim getting a nero error with the .iso for x64 ubvuntu. it says the block size does not corrsespind  to image lengtg05:52
josh43MadpilotPPC, Or would have, eh? ;)05:53
kbrooks!test05:53
durtauk: there is no root password after the install, that is your user password05:53
MadpilotPPC!tell dangaio about mountwindows05:53
aukdurt: w/ sudo...05:53
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josh43MadpilotPPC, Bot=dead05:53
auki know it's not actually the root account05:53
MadpilotPPCjosh43, no he ain't, actually05:53
MadpilotPPC!tell josh43 about ubotu05:53
dangaioMadpilotPPC mountwindows?05:53
aukdanagio: ...05:54
josh43MadpilotPPC, I havn't seen anything from it05:54
MadpilotPPC!+windowsdrives05:54
ubotuit has been said that windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically05:54
auk!mountntfs05:54
ubotuauk: What?05:54
durtthe user password goes with sudo05:54
auk!mountwindows05:54
ubotuauk: Did you get hit by a windmill?05:54
diemanchrist05:54
auk!mount windows05:54
ubotuWish i knew, auk05:54
diemanmy laser printer is so old05:54
aukdang it05:54
diemanit doesn't have much of a 'sleep mode'05:54
diemanim finding that it might be worth it to just get a $80-90 laser printer05:54
josh43MadpilotPPC, Colour me wrong :)05:54
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budreeferhelp i need help to get my usb support working in ubuntu05:54
Amaranth!ntfs05:55
maxmousewould anyone happen to know why unreal tournament 2004 works fine on my radeon, yet wolfenstein enemy territory doesnt start up ?05:55
josh43dangaio, here's the ubuntu way: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions?highlight=%28mount%2905:55
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Amaranthhmm, too long to show in the channel05:55
Amaranthauk: /msg ubotu ntfs05:55
aukAmaranth: talk to danagio05:55
Amaranthdangaio: /msg ubotu ntfs05:55
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ibthomsonanyone having problems with apt-get connecting to the repositories? apt-get update won't connect to anything in my sources.list05:56
aukAmaranth, see MadPilot's message05:56
bob2ibthomson: surely you'd need to show it to us?05:56
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budreeferanyone have any suggestions? it doesn't load on startup05:56
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KRomeleoN<DavidLeeRoth> if you arelooking for speed i would look at gentoo <---it would run better on a dual p3 600mhz ?>05:58
ibthomsonbob2, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2837 is my sources.list05:58
KRomeleoNthan ubuntu?05:58
Amaranthbudreefer: I can't find your question in my backlog, can you repeat it?05:58
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AmaranthKRomeleoN: If you custom tune it and compile everything from source.05:58
budreeferi have no usb support in my ubuntu05:58
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budreeferi want to get it into the startup05:58
AmaranthKRomeleoN: See you in a month when GNOME finishes compiling.05:58
bob2budreefer: don't be silly05:58
budreeferheh05:58
KRomeleoNhah05:59
budreeferok lets start from the beginning then05:59
budreeferi must be doing something wrong05:59
budreeferi have a 7 os boot system05:59
AmaranthKRomeleoN: If you figure out how to make it all work, it's more of a distro for people who know what they are doing, or at least think they know.05:59
budreeferand ubuntu is #7 now05:59
budreeferso mebbe i didnt config the lilo correct05:59
Amaranthlilo? *shudder*05:59
hondjeand not such a good desktop distro05:59
budreeferu prefer grub? or somethin else?05:59
bob2"you"06:00
Amaranthgrub, yeah06:00
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budreeferallrighty well anyways i have a /boot partition should i copy the ubuntu kernel file in there?06:02
budreeferor can i load it from the /dev/hda806:02
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dreamwavei've got a gtk app called aria (a download manager installed).  for some reason, it is using the default GTK theme.  how do i get it to use the same theme as the reset of gnome?06:03
thompahey06:03
tom__Howdy06:03
dreamwaveho06:04
budreeferdunno sumthin is weird....ubuntu install just told me to use a root=/dev/hda8 in the boot param and kernel as /vmlinuz06:04
budreeferthe root param is fine but the loader doesnt like /vmlinuz as kernel06:04
dmlinuxIs there an apt-get for Limewire06:04
thompajust used ubuntu with a remote server. works real nice06:04
bob2dreamwave: are you running it as root?06:04
thompanot anymore06:05
bob2budreefer: you'd need to pick the real kernel image name06:05
dreamwavebob2, no06:05
dmlinuxIs there an apt-get for Limewire06:05
budreeferyeah thats wat i thought bob....should i copy it to the /boot tho?06:05
tritiumdmlinux, please don't repeat06:05
gigaclondmlinux, search synaptic06:06
bob2budreefer: this plan seems broken06:06
KRomeleoNdo the live cds also contain the installation?06:06
thompafunny my notebook buts with edukde now, or something like that06:06
gigaclonKRomeleoN, no06:06
bob2budreefer: just point lilo at the right image file06:06
thompaboots06:06
thompalogo only06:06
gigaclonKRomeleoN, only the DVD contains both Live and Installation Images06:06
dreamwavebob2, i've only been running ubuntu for a few days (5.10) so it's still pretty much a vanilla install.06:06
josh43Ok, what is the best multi-threaded newsgroup reader for linux?06:07
naliothjosh43: dunno best, but pan works good06:07
KRomeleoNou don't have permission to access /5.10/ubuntu-5.10-rc-dvd-amd64.iso on this server.06:07
thompain kde is one06:07
KRomeleoNi cant find the live dvds06:07
gigaclonyou should just get the live CD06:08
josh43KRomeleoN, Give it 7 days, or go with the cd offer06:08
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thrice`ok, figured out the fglrx issue :)06:08
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josh43thrice`, What issue? what fixed it? do you have hardware 3d now?06:09
thompajosh43: kmail06:09
noe1hi!06:09
gigaclonhii06:09
noe1im looking for MHZ06:10
josh43thompa, That looks like a standard "read newsgroups for the conversations" type client06:10
TedLemonthompa, you're having problems with kmail?06:10
naliothjosh43: you after a binary friendly reader? try pan06:10
josh43thompa, I'm looking for a "download like a madman" type client :)06:10
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naliothjosh43: then use pan06:10
thompaknode06:11
josh43nalioth, Yeah, I am going to definately try it, tho I think I did before and it was a little old and crusty06:11
gigaclonnoe1, MHZ06:11
noe1mauricio?06:11
naliothjosh43: i use it every day (movies, music, etc) and it works well06:11
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thrice`is breezy supposed to include a gui for editing init scripts ?06:12
josh43nalioth: Does it work with yenc and all that new 'stuff'?06:12
dmlinuxgigaclon, its not in synaptic06:12
naliothjosh43: yup06:12
josh43nalioth, Ok, cool.. I'm just setting it up now06:12
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thompaapt-get install knode06:13
melvztechiehello guys06:13
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melvztechiegood day to ubuntu users06:14
JayPee_just wanted to say switched from suse 9.3 to Ubuntu and I must say I like gnome and Ubuntu06:14
thompaintegration with kde is slick06:14
dmlinuxhey melv06:14
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noe1where are the edubuntu people?06:14
thompakonqueror is in the menu06:14
Hendricany suggestion for a lightweight Internet Browser???06:14
josh43JayPee_, You will like ubuntu more and more as you go.. did you put in 5.04 or 5.10?06:14
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budreeferyay i fixed it bob thanks!06:14
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josh43Hendric, Lynx06:14
thompai got edubuntu06:14
JayPee_i installed breezy 5.1006:14
JayPee_it feels a lot more stable and faster than kde suse06:15
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JayPee_i love it06:15
josh43JayPee_, Good choice :)06:15
Hendricjosh43, lol, with GUI06:15
noe1i need to talk with someone of the edubuntu team :(06:15
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josh43Hendric, There is something like... glynx (lynx with graphics)06:15
kbrooksnoe1: ask here06:15
budreeferallright next item on the list06:15
Amaranthnoe1: #edubuntu?06:15
thompanoel: Im using it for fractions lessons06:15
MadpilotPPCHendric, some people report Opera as being slightly lighter than FF06:15
durtwhoa lynx with graphics?06:15
FR500noe1: what for?06:16
budreeferdoes Ubuntu have a built in PPPoE dialer?06:16
noe1about the design of the CD06:16
naliothHendric: links2 has graphic capability06:16
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JayPee_i love the support as well06:16
bob2budreefer: sure06:16
melvztechiehello guys, just wanna ask if there are safe files to remove in Breezy, I got  full already with my Harddrive06:16
JayPee_A+06:16
noe1of the latin american release06:16
JayPee_see you later ubuntu people06:16
josh43durt, I saw it in synaptic :)06:16
Hendricopera?? how about konqueror?? is it lighter than FF?06:16
Amaranthnoe1: iirc there is an edubuntu-devel mailing list06:17
budreeferbob: i went looking for it on the livecd and couldn't find...where can i get to it?06:17
bob2melvztechie: sudo apt-get clean06:17
JayPee_bye josh4306:17
bob2budreefer: doubt it's on the livecd06:17
thompanoel: just put a sticker on it06:17
noe1hahaha06:17
noe1lol06:17
bob2budreefer: sudo pppoeconf ; sudo pon06:17
budreeferbob: but what i am staring at now is same as whats on livecd :)06:17
noe1im on the wrong place06:17
MadpilotPPCHendric, no idea, haven't used konq myself06:17
thompakonqueror is working real good, but im suspect06:18
DeekinHow do I restart an XOrg session throush shell please?06:18
naliothkonqueror is lighter than ff06:18
thompano its bigger06:18
bob2budreefer: ok06:18
Hendrici need a lightweight browser with java, flash, graphics capabilities.. like FF06:18
bob2Deekin: define restart06:18
thompait integrates better with other programs in kde06:18
durtare the mirrormax repos not working or something?06:18
kbrooksnow i need to decide on what to do with those two created partitions...06:19
Deekinbob2: thank you, helpful as always :)06:19
kbrookson my spare hd06:19
durthendric: opera if you want all that06:19
kbrooksideas06:19
kbrooks?06:19
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Deekinoh, i thought that was the command lol06:19
bob2Deekin: ?06:19
HendricFF is so hungry... better try opera06:19
bob2Deekin: it depends on what your goal is06:19
Hendrichow about an office suite?? Openoffice is hungry as hell...06:19
Deekinbob2: I'm dl'ing KDE now - I wanna log out of gnome and into KDE06:19
kbrooksHendric: abiword06:19
durthendric: gnome office06:20
kbrooksit isnt bloated06:20
PhilyHendric: Office suite use VI06:20
thompatry opera..06:20
bob2Deekin: then log out and back in again06:20
budreeferbob: appreciate the help man working great :) tanks06:20
budreeferl8ters all06:20
thompathey will send you a free license06:20
kbrooksphily: not a office suite06:20
Deekinbob2: duh, for some reason i didnt think that option was present - pardon me06:20
Hendriccan those open an MS word document??06:20
twysteddurt, the mirrormax repos are not offically ubuntu supported so we dont know :)06:20
kbrooksthompa: look at opera.com right now06:20
thompai had bad font problems in opera though06:20
Philykbrooks: with latext it is06:20
twystedbrb06:21
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kbrooksphily: i mean vi06:21
Philykbrooks: just no wusiwyg06:21
tritiumPhily, latext?  You're talking about LaTeX?06:21
MadpilotPPCthompa, there have been a bunch of font improvements in Opera w/ the 8.50 release. it's much prettier now!06:21
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thompathe browser dude!06:21
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thompalol06:21
kbrooksthompa: go to opera.com please06:21
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durtuse qtconfig to tweak operas appearance06:22
thrice`still qt06:22
kbrooksthrice`: yes06:22
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PhilyI like opera but can't get rid off all my FF extentions06:22
kbrookslol06:22
dcarpenterhi guys are any of u fluent in c++?06:22
kbrooksdont blame u06:22
thompasome kind of hidden adds probably06:23
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thompatracking?06:23
melvztechiebob2: hello sir, kinda new but what does the command will do? apt-get clean?06:23
testuserhello....06:23
tritiumhello06:23
durtalot of those firefox extensions are attempts to mimic opera06:23
Philydurt: lol06:23
thompait works better in windows06:23
MadpilotPPCdurt, true, but you'll offend the FF fanbase pointing that out! ;)06:24
thompabut have not tried opera in ubuntu yet06:24
thrice`durt, minus streaming video06:24
Philydurt: u mean that opera has all hte functionality of the 1000+ availaibel extentions for FF?06:24
wickedpuppydcarpenter, just ask ?06:24
wickedpuppyor ask in #c++06:24
durtthrice`: what do you mean?06:24
thompathere are a couple of issues I have with firefox06:24
bob2melvztechie: man apt-get06:24
thrice`durt, i've been unsuccessful with it06:25
bob2melvztechie: hint: it deletes cached installed packages06:25
thompalost bookmarks06:25
durtthrice`: have you install mozplugger?06:25
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thrice`durt, that's effective with opera ?06:25
Philymelvztechie: clean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. It removes everything but the lock file from /var/cache/apt/archives/ and /var/cache/apt/archive/partial/. When APT is used as a dselect(8) method, clean is run automatically. Those who do not use dselect will likely want to run apt-get clean from time to time to free up disk space06:25
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melvztechiebob2: thanks for the help sir:)06:25
thompainstall real player and firefox06:25
ibuntuor epiphany06:26
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durtthrice`: yes06:26
thompakonqueror is pretty slim06:27
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breakthestateany command to find out the chipset for a USB webcam?  someone donated to me and i have no manuals06:28
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bob2nope06:29
wickedpuppywhats the brand and model ? its probably on the manufacturer site06:29
bob2lsusb will help, tho06:29
MadpilotPPCbreakthestate, www.google.com06:29
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twystedbreakthestate, what brand webcam is it? or is it just generic06:29
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thompai dont like the gloss in any of these desktops or web sites. things shoud be teatering on the edge06:30
breakthestatetwysted: looks like a quickcam express from the website06:30
breakthestatelogitech06:30
MadpilotPPCthompa, what do you mean?06:30
breakthestatebut i've read about so many different chipsets06:30
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breakthestateand a version is not printed06:31
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breakthestatemadpilot: what's google?06:31
thompahey anybody know what is good for backup of home files and some configuration one.06:31
Concord_Dawncan anyone tell me where java is installed to?06:31
thompado locate06:31
Concord_DawnI did.06:31
melvztechiePhily: thanks also sir06:32
thompaand?06:32
bob2Concord_Dawn: depends how you installed it06:32
melvztechieConcord_Dawn: I think its not installed by default06:32
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melvztechieConcord_Dawn: Need to download at sun.com website;)06:32
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Concord_Dawnerm06:33
Concord_Dawnit is installed.06:33
Concord_DawnI installed it06:33
thompause synaptic06:33
Concord_DawnI just need to figure out where it is, and it's not in the repos thopma06:33
Concord_Dawnthompa*06:33
twystedbreakthestate, that one should work quite easily in linux just use google to find out how to set it up :)06:33
Concord_Dawn!javadebs06:33
ubotuConcord_Dawn: Are you on ritalin?06:33
Concord_Dawn!javadeb06:33
ubotu[javadeb]  for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java06:33
Concord_Dawnnow06:33
Concord_Dawnplease can you tell me where java gets installed?06:34
naliothConcord_Dawn: open a terminal and type "which java"06:34
thompago to system synaptic. open it and search for java.06:34
twystedconcord_Dawn go to the url ubot provided06:34
breakthestatetwysted: yeah and it even looks like most of the modules are already on my system06:34
Concord_Dawntwysted, it's installed, I want to find it on my system.06:34
breakthestatebut no matter which ones i modprobe06:34
twystedthompa he doesnt have universal enabled so stop repeating06:34
Concord_Dawnthompa, java isn't in the repositories.06:34
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breakthestatei never can get a /dev/video* to appear06:34
twystedconcord_dawn, type 'sudo updatedb"06:35
twystedconcord_dawn, then try to 'locate' it06:35
Concord_Dawnyeah06:35
naliothtwysted: "which java" will locate it06:35
twystedif it doesnt appear its not installed then :)06:35
Concord_Dawnit is installed06:36
Concord_Dawnjava -version replies.06:36
Concord_Dawntrust me, it's there.06:36
Concord_DawnBAH06:37
Concord_Dawnthe results scroll up way too fast.06:37
twystedehehe06:37
Concord_Dawnanyway to stop that?06:37
naliothConcord_Dawn: which java06:37
Concord_DawnI'm logged in via SSH btw.06:37
naliothConcord_Dawn: locate java | more06:37
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Concord_Dawnnalioth, the one in !javadeb06:37
durtok just ignore nalioth06:37
twysteddurt, already done ;)06:38
naliothConcord_Dawn: in your terminal type "which java"  "which" is a command06:38
twystedbreakthestate did you get that url for the quick cam?06:38
Concord_DawnI did06:38
Concord_DawnI found it, I think06:38
Concord_Dawninstalled in a funny location06:38
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Concord_Dawn/usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun06:38
maxmouseanyone know if there is a msn client that supports webcam?06:38
tom__exit06:38
twystedlooks like the right directory to me :)06:39
twystedmaxmouse, theres a plugin for gaim but its still experimental06:39
maxmousetwysted, thanks06:39
twystedmaxmouse, though its been said you can wine msn706:39
maxmouseoh thats cool06:39
maxmouseill try that too06:39
thompaanyone know how to do easy /home backup?06:39
Concord_Dawnyes06:39
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Concord_Dawncp -R /home/* <destination>06:40
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thompai need to see if cd burner works06:40
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breakthestatetwysted: but yeah, i just found the exact name and it is listed as not supported06:40
lightstartar cfz <filename>.tar.gz /home06:41
twystedah06:41
twystedthat sucks06:41
luihelloooo06:41
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thompawhat about to ipod?06:41
grigorahi, can someone tell me what I have to have installed to be able to play DVDs? I am being told that I need libdvdcss, but when I try to install it, I get an error that it's been obsoleted. any ideas? TIA!06:42
twystedthompa that will work as long as ubuntu can see it and you can browse it :)06:42
breakthestatetwysted: thx i'll keep at it06:42
Concord_Dawn<3 SSH06:42
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thrice`!restrictedformats06:42
ubotuit has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'06:42
breakthestatepossibly trying out this thing called google06:42
thompait does not work when you switch to another windows computer06:42
Concord_Dawnthe most ereet way to run an appendageless server.06:42
thompamines blank anyway. all the songs deleted06:43
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anethemahey is there a way for apt to force the install of a file even if deps dont clear?06:43
twystedthompa well as long as you can browse it in ubuntu you should be able to to a home dir backup to it using one of the commands that lightstar or COncord gave to you06:44
VoXerr06:44
anethemasynaptic is saying this: skype:06:44
anethema Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable06:44
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VoXanethema: why would you want to force-install if the deps dont clear?06:44
anethemabut i know my ver is better06:44
twystedanethema are you using breezy or hoary?06:44
thompaConcord_Dawn: are there any config files I might need?06:44
stratanyone have problems installing realplayer??when i try to insatall...it says something about   ./    not a valid cpmmand ..some thing like that...i followed instructions at reals site but cant get it to install..06:44
anethemabreezy06:44
Concord_Dawntwysted, use [tab]  please.06:44
Concord_Dawnthompa, -R gets everything.06:44
anethemabut ive got 3.3.3.3-706:44
twystedconcord_dawn, i dont have auto complete on mirc ;)06:45
anethemaand im pretty damn sure it will run06:45
Concord_DawnO_O06:45
Concord_Dawntwysted, why not? autocomplete is ereet!06:45
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durtwhat are you installing anathem?06:45
anethemajust wondering if there is a way to make apt ignore the dependancies during a install06:45
lightstarthompa : if u backup the entire home directory, every user conf is backed up..which is wat i suppose ur looking 406:45
grigorafolks, does anyone know where I can get libdvdcss? thanks06:45
Concord_Dawnanethema, -f switch.06:45
thompajust want bookmarks and some emails.06:45
Concord_Dawn!libdvdcss06:45
ubotuConcord_Dawn: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:45
Concord_Dawn!libdvd06:45
ubotuConcord_Dawn: Are you smoking crack?06:45
twystedanethema it might not be supported in breezy yet so youd have better luck trying it with hoary06:45
twysted!dvd06:46
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras06:46
twysted!hoary-extras06:46
ubotufrom memory, hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted06:46
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thompahey you cant write that word06:46
twystedgrigora there ya go06:47
grigoratwysted: thanks, I am trying now06:47
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anethemaits not 'supported' in anything06:48
twystedwelcome :)06:48
anethemathird part commercial app06:48
artyhey here's a question: I have a quite old laptop running debian 3.1, and i'm thinking of switching to ubuntu, mainly because it's easier to find info about specific ubuntu questions than debian imo ... does anybody have some experience they can relate from the perspective of a recent debian user?06:48
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tritiumarty, if you're used to debian, it should be painless06:48
twystedarty, hello i can help you if needed06:48
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artytritium: i was hoping06:48
dmlinuxhey guys, what program will let me open RARs06:49
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naliothtritium: if you're used to debian, it should be bliss06:49
Concord_Dawndmlinux, rar06:49
twysteddmlinux, 'unrar'06:49
naliothdmlinux: unrar-nonfree06:49
artyanything strange about the configs in /etc that are different from the debian ones?06:49
artythat stand out?06:49
Concord_Dawnsudo apt-get rar unrar06:49
anethemaConcord_Dawn, -f is fix06:49
dmlinuxis it in synaptic06:49
anethemanot force06:49
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Concord_Dawnanethema, there is a force switch.06:49
breakthestate$!&*! hardware06:49
anethemano idea how to force an install if the deps dont work06:49
naliothunrar-nonfree opens more types of rars06:49
twystedarty, its pretty simular sicne ubunu is debian based06:49
artyok06:49
artythanks06:49
dmlinuxtwysted, can i apt get it?06:49
twysteddmlinux, use unrar-nonfree06:49
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twysteddmlinux you should be able to06:49
anethemaguh06:50
anethemacant get it to install06:50
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naliothubotu: tell anethema about sources06:50
twystedanethema only thing i can suggest is going back to hoary06:50
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dmlinuxtwysted, do you know the exact code? sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree06:51
twysteddmlinux that should work06:51
naliothdmlinux: thats it06:51
grigoratwysted: with libdvdcss2 installed, I still cannot get the DVD to play06:52
traceHas anyone got Anjunta running correctly on breezy?06:52
josh43what repository should unrar-nonfree be in?06:52
twystedgrigora what media player06:52
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nalioth!info unrar-nonfree06:52
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB06:52
grigoratwysted: totem06:52
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josh43nalioth, Thanks06:52
anethemathe exact same prob existed on hoary06:52
lightstartrace : i have..but i upgraded my hoary to breezy..n it works fine06:52
anethemanalioth, this doesnt help me06:53
dmlinuxi cant view .ICO is there a prog out there to view06:53
breakthestatewell since, i'm not registered, i'm going to apologize for being a prick to madpilot in public, i was just so frustrated and had googled my brain off already.  i truly am sorry and i know you help lots of people here...inlcluding myself.06:53
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twystedgrigora check your prefs to make sure it it pointing to your dvd rom (/mnt/cdrom?)06:53
grigoratwysted: the error message from totem mentions libdvdcss, and when I try to install that instead of libdvdcss(2) I get an error as well06:53
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mylastmorninghey06:54
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mylastmorningdoes anyone know how to get Rangarok Online running?06:54
grigoratwysted: totem shows the correct device06:54
tracelightstar: Did you get complaints about "configure:error: Package requirements (libnomeui-2.0 gtk+-2.0) were not met?06:54
grigoratwysted: I am going to try using mplayer instead06:54
twystedgrigora that might be a better idea :)06:55
thompalightstar: thanks06:55
mylastmorningdoes anyone know how to get Rangarok Online working?06:55
dmlinuxDoes anyone know a viewer that can view .ICO files06:55
twystedmylastmorning we saw your question the first time so please wait :)06:55
Concord_Dawndmlinux, GIMP should be able to.06:55
mylastmorningsorry twysted, I'm just kinda fed up with it...06:55
lightstartrace : nope i didnt...all seemed to work jsut fine06:56
lightstarthompa : no problem;)06:56
mylastmorninghello lightstar ^_^06:56
tracelightstar: happens everytime I try to build06:56
anethemaaparently apt-get doesnt have a force dependancies switch06:56
anethemadpkg does though06:56
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lightstarmylastmorning : heya:D06:56
bob2anethema: of course06:56
Concord_Dawnanethema, then download the deb only.06:56
twystedmylastmorning> is it linux supported at all natively?06:56
anethemayeah06:56
Concord_Dawnand use dpkg -if06:56
bob2anethema: the point of apt-get is to go from one consistent state to another06:56
anethemayes but, it is saying i need some version of something06:57
anethemaand im pretty sure my version is newer06:57
bob2fix the broken .deb06:57
mylastmorningno twysted, and when I try to use wine, it just steals ram and doesn't run the installer.06:57
lightstartrace : strange..hmmm06:57
bob2anethema: not according to dpkg --compare-versions06:57
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anethemais 3.3.3.3.2 newer than 3.3.3.3-7 ?06:57
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lightstartrace : did u upgrade from prev ubuntu or u did a fresh install?06:57
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twystedmylastmorning> you will need to consult support from wine's man pages or channel/forum/ect06:57
tracelightstar: fresh install06:57
Concord_Dawncan anyone help me with Tomcat?06:57
bob2anethema: are you sure those are the two versions?06:57
bob2anethema: and I assume this is skype?06:57
anethemayes skype06:58
lightstartrace : odd..then there should not be any problems..hang on lemme check on my side06:58
mylastmorningtwysted, I'm not sure if I want to use wine... I hear theirs more programs that are even better.06:58
anethemaand yes ive got 3.3.3.3-7 and it wants 3.3.3.3.206:58
bob2anethema: skype is broken, get the static tarball instead06:58
anethemaof some libMT06:58
bob2anethema: the latter is newer tha nthe former, yes06:58
twystedmylastmorning> yea cedega might work alot better but it does cost money06:58
tracelightstar: It strats up...but I just cannot build.06:58
bob2anethema: 1.1.1.1 > 1.1.1-anything06:58
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anethemaohh okay, so i dont have a newer version06:58
mylastmorningbummer. do they except paypal twysted?06:59
anethemai just discovered the aoss function of alsa though06:59
anethemamakes skype a normal alsa app, i love it06:59
Concord_Dawncan anyone help me with Tomcat?06:59
twystedmylastmorning> i think they accept paypal check out http://www.transgaming.com/ they make cedga/winex06:59
bob2Concord_Dawn: way easier if you just ask your question06:59
bob2way way way way way way easier06:59
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Concord_Dawnbob2, well it's not, since I don't really know what's wrong.06:59
Concord_DawnI just know, something is.07:00
anethematwysted, they dont accept paypal, but do accept credit cards07:00
twystedConcord_Dawn, try the Apache channel documentation then :)07:00
twystedanethema ah oh well07:00
bob2Concord_Dawn: and not giving us log snippets, config files or explaining what's wrong makes it impoessible for anyon to help you07:00
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anethemaheh anyone else just get another 5mb of updates for breezy? :D07:00
anethemaany day now it will all be golden :D07:01
Concord_Dawnbob2, well, I've found that asking if anyone can help with a specific subject saves me a lot of time and bandwidth07:01
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vol0zahello, I'm just a newbie who wants to get involved in the Ubuntu community. I have some coding/Linux experience. Can anybody help me to start?07:01
bob2Concord_Dawn: and annoys potential helpers07:01
twysted*sigh*07:01
anethemaConcord_Dawn, in ANY help channel you just ask..dont ask if you can ask07:01
anethemaits just the way it works07:01
bob2anyway, it's annoyign enough that I'm not going to ask for more details, so good luck07:01
twystedwill you two stop bickering and just get on with helping07:01
anethemaif someone can help, they will07:01
bob2vol0za: #ubuntu-motu07:01
anethemaif no one speaks up, they dont know07:01
nalioth_zZzvol0za: wiki.ubuntu.com is a good place to start looking07:01
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DavidLeeRothayuda en espanol es en #ubuntu-es  si quieres saber07:02
twystedConcord_Dave if you cannot provide a question to your problem dont expect an answer, its as simple as that, JUST ASK PEOPLE IF WE CANT HELP WELL POINT YOU THE RIGHT WAY07:02
anethemai see the new gnome doesnt fix the damn button bug haha07:02
Concord_Dawnerm07:02
anethemawhere sometimes mousing over doesnt cause the button to pop out and so you cant fix it07:02
twystedanethema that sucks07:02
anethemanot that big a deal07:02
bob2twysted: er, please?07:02
vol0zathanks, I'll try the motu and the wiki.07:02
anethemaits just a small one so i figured it would be fixed07:02
anethemai wonder if its in the bugzilla07:02
twystedbob2?07:03
bob2anethema: if you've found a bug in gnome, please repoert it07:03
Concord_Dawnhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/284007:03
Concord_Dawnthere is my problem07:03
bob2twysted: no need to be obnoxious and/or use caps07:03
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Concord_DawnTomcat blows chunks when I try and stop it.07:03
anethemaits soo common bob i am sure it is in bugzills07:03
anethemaa07:03
anethemalike, all my ubuntu buddies know it is there07:03
Concord_Dawnbut when I start it, I get no errors, and it doesn't start.07:03
bob2anethema: have you checked?07:03
bob2anethema: that's not rreally useful07:03
twystedConcord_dawn looks like a java error to me07:03
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anethemaand like in menus, sometimes when you open one pulldown menu, then switch to open another, it doesnt pop out and you click and the whole damn thing closes07:04
borgistaHello. How do I turn off the Totem-Mozilla plugin?07:04
anethemayou know what i mean bob?07:04
Concord_Dawnwow, we're observant, considering I'm dinking around with a java servlet, I'd say you're on target.07:04
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bob2Concord_Dawn: what does catalina try to connect to?07:04
Concord_Dawn(I'm not the only one who can be a smartass)07:04
Concord_Dawnbob2, nothing as of yet.07:04
bob2anethema: if no one else has filed a bug, please do so07:04
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tylerdurdenhey how come i can only go up to 75 mhz but in windows i can do 85?07:04
esac_expanding on borgista's question, how do i switch it so that instead of totem, nautilus launches VLC instead ?07:04
anethemaokay07:04
Concord_Dawnbtw, I'm following the howto located here: http://www.sitepoint.com/article/jsp-quick-start-guide-linux/407:04
bob2Concord_Dawn: hm? the error seems to be that it's tried and filed07:04
anethemain ubuntu bugzilla or gnome?07:04
bob2anethema: either07:05
esac_tylerdurden: 75 Hz, not mhz07:05
borgistaI installed mozilla-mplayer but totem-plugin still comes up.07:05
tylerdurden:S oops07:05
anethemaahh ive got an account at the ubuntu one, ill use that07:05
tylerdurdenbut still, but come i can only go up to 75?07:05
Concord_Dawnbob2, except for the fact that that's when I try and STOP it. when I start it I get the first 4 lines and no error.07:05
bob2tylerdurden: you need to ptovide some sort of context07:05
twystedborgista apt-get remove totem-mozilla or totem-plugin07:05
tylerdurdenwell i have a radeon 9200, adn my res is 1024 76807:06
borgistaNeither work twysted07:06
bob2tylerdurden: you're talking about your video card then?07:06
bob2tylerdurden: I really really really doubt your refresh rate was ever 85MHz07:06
tylerdurdenuhh..07:06
tylerdurdenit is07:06
tylerdurdenon windows it is07:06
bob2no, it's not07:06
bob2it's really not07:06
twystedid have to agree with bob, windows is VERRRRY lax with refresh rates07:06
bob2Concord_Dawn: hm, most of those things are in ubuntu already07:06
tylerdurdenwell its says 8507:06
bob2tylerdurden: 85 Hz != 85 MHz07:07
tylerdurdenand in linux it says 7507:07
twystedmy monitor only supporst 60htz but itll go up to 85 but it doesnt mean ill use 85 :)07:07
borgistatwysted: do you think removing totem-gstreamer would work?07:07
tylerdurdenwell my bad it is Hz ok?07:07
twystedborgista that might work07:07
Concord_Dawnerm, ?07:07
borgistaLet's see.07:07
borgistatwysted: Should I try re-installing mozilla-mplayer?07:07
Concord_Dawnbob2, mind explaining what you mean?07:07
twystedborgista, yes07:07
borgistathanks twysted07:08
anethemabob2, ill report it, but do you or anyone else know which bug i mean?07:08
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bob2Concord_Dawn: apache, mod_jk2, the tomcat libs07:08
bob2anethema: no07:08
anethemalike sometimes when you mouseover a button it wont click07:08
Concord_Dawnmod_jk isn't in the repos07:08
twystedwelcome07:08
anethemait doesnt pop out07:08
Concord_Dawnafaik07:08
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borgistaLet's see if this works...07:08
Concord_Dawnand is there any way to search the repos command line?07:08
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bob2libapache-mod-jk - Apache 1.3 connector for the Tomcat Java servlet engine07:08
bob2libapache2-mod-jk2 - Apache 2.0 connector for the Tomcat Java servlet engine07:08
Pickle_Weaseldoes breezy come with java? i seem to be having problems07:08
bob2Concord_Dawn: ^07:08
bob2Pickle_Weasel: yes, but not the one from sun07:08
borgistaPickle_Weasel: no, it doesn't.07:08
Concord_DawnDOH07:08
bob2Concord_Dawn: apt-cache search blah07:08
borgistaOH, it does?07:08
anethemaim trying to reproduce it in some reliable way before filing a report07:09
Concord_DawnI r f***ing stupid07:09
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Pickle_Weaselhow would i remove this? i installed the one from sun i guess...over the existing one, and am having major problems07:09
Concord_Dawnhow did I miss those07:09
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Concord_Dawnbob2, will I still need tomcat though?07:09
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AlphaFactionHey any of you gyes know how to remove the harddrive icons that show up on the desktop when you got a fat32 drive in your pc? Id rather keep my desktop blank if i can07:09
Laforge38how do i start an emulator?07:09
bob2Laforge38: depends on the emulator07:10
anethemajust apt-get install sun-j2re1.507:10
Laforge38NES one bob207:10
anethemathats the one from sun07:10
bob2Concord_Dawn: oddly, yes,  its in Debian but not Ubuntu, for some reason.07:10
bob2Laforge38: that's still not specific enough07:10
Laforge38bob2, FECU07:10
Concord_Dawnbob2, so I just need to config Tomcat to work with mod_jk, but everything else will be done? sweet07:11
bob2Laforge38: what?07:11
bob2Concord_Dawn: I think so07:11
nalioth_zZzubotu: tell Pickle_Weasel about javadeb07:11
Laforge38bob2: FEC Ultra07:11
borgistathat worked twysted07:11
borgistathank you.07:11
bob2Laforge38: that doesn't seem to be in ubuntu07:12
bob2Laforge38: did nestra not work?07:12
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Pickle_Weaselnalioth_zZz, heh, there's great irony in sending me to that link07:12
Pickle_Weaselyou see, the problem i am having is with azureus07:12
Laforge38bob2: well i wanted to try escape from pong, and it said to use FEC but i will try nestra07:12
Pickle_Weaselso i can't torrent a java package to fix my java problem07:12
anethemaheh Pickle_Weasel07:13
anethemajust type sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.507:13
anethemadone, you have java07:13
xuniluserHow do you recompile your kernel in Ubuntu?07:13
tritiumanethema, not if he doesn't have the same repos as you have07:13
anethemaoh07:13
Pickle_Weaselwhich i don't07:14
tristanmikePickle_Weasel, that package isn't a torrent is it?07:14
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Pickle_Weaselit is, it seems07:14
dmlinuxDoes anyone know how to get gDesklets to start on login.. I did sessions/startup but im not sure if im doing it right07:14
tritiumxuniluser, the debian/ubuntu method involves using kernel-package07:14
tristanmikePickle_Weasel, Hoary?07:14
anethemathe only special repos i have are universe and multiverse07:14
Pickle_Weaselbreezy07:14
anethemaadd those and you can install the sun j2re07:14
tristanmikePickle_Weasel, http://tinyurl.com/bwomt07:14
Laforge38bob2: where would the rom be downloaded to?07:15
Pickle_Weaseli had everything working great, then last night my system messed up, now i have it back up and running, and i can't get torrents to work07:15
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anethema!faq07:15
ubotufaq is probably The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/07:15
bob2Laforge38: wherever you told firefox to put it07:15
bob2Laforge38: ~/Desktop by default07:15
Pickle_Weaselcould it be a problem with iptables?07:15
Pickle_Weaselwhat's the command to remove all firewall blocks?07:15
Pickle_Weasel-F?07:15
tristanmikeoutta my leauge07:15
Laforge38bob2: i got it from synaptic not firefox07:15
Pickle_Weaseltristanmike, what's the difference between the two java packages there?07:16
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Pickle_Weaselnevermind, i see it now07:16
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esaci heard that by release, ubuntu was going to be able to apt-get install klik .. are there still any plans for that ?07:17
jbalintHi, I installed gcc, 4.0. But how do I compile the simplest program? /usr/include is almost empty!07:17
winneresac: what is klik?07:17
tristanmikePickle_Weasel, umm, can you tell me, cause I don't understand the diff between re and sdk, sdk is for developers?07:17
bob2esac: where did you hear that?07:17
Pickle_Weaselthat's what i figure07:17
bob2jbalint: install build-essential07:17
Pickle_Weaselre being runtime environment07:17
esac!klik07:17
ubotuklik is probably at  http://dot.kde.org/1126867980/07:17
Pickle_Weaselor somesuch07:17
anethemais there a issue with adding uni/multi verse then installing the sun java thru apt?07:17
tristanmikeahhh, makes sense now07:18
anethemaseems to be the easiest way07:18
jbalintbob2: ok, i'll look for it.07:18
thuxHi, what to do when synaptic say: Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade"07:18
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mylastmorningdoes anyone play Ragnarok?07:18
esacbob2: i dont recall. i know on the front page of klik that it says that klik is "being prepared for use with ubuntu" though07:18
bob2esac: that seems pointless given ubuntu has apt07:18
jbalintbob2: Ok, great. Thanks alot.07:18
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Concord_Dawnhas anyone here used tomcat before? I need some help connecting it to Apache207:20
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bob2esac: and that page doesn't seem to say anything about ubuntu itself, just that they have a forum thread about klik07:20
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nomasteryodabob2, did Ubuntu Developers make the link drag-n-drop for Firefox ... as in to desktop, etc.... or is that something from debian?07:21
nomasteryodaor firefox07:21
nomasteryodathat is something i missed when i left windows07:22
bob2I don' know07:22
bob2that sounds like firefox-gnome-support territyoty07:22
Laforge38how do i open a zip?07:22
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nomasteryodaok07:22
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nomasteryodaanyhow, kudos to whomever07:22
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Hendricabiword is just like magic...07:23
topyliLaforge38: try clicking on it :)07:23
Hendricwhere can i get opera?? its not on the repos i think....07:23
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Concord_Dawnit's there Hendric07:23
bob2Hendric: www.opera.com...07:23
bob2opera's highly non-free and undistributable07:24
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bob2or was07:24
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logikal_hey anyone around?07:25
logikal_quick question07:25
Concord_Dawnsure.07:25
logikal_downloaded a theme for KDE, a source file07:25
logikal_configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH07:25
logikal_See `config.log' for more details.07:25
logikal_got that error while running ./configure07:25
Concord_Dawnyeah07:25
Concord_Dawnmeans it can't find gcc07:25
logikal_This distro does come with gcc correct?07:25
Concord_Dawnnot standard07:25
topylilogikal_: install the build-essential package07:25
Concord_Dawnindeed07:26
logikal_ok07:26
Hendricits not on the repos.. i tried..07:26
Concord_Dawnit is.07:26
bob2it's really not07:26
Concord_Dawnat least, it's in one of them07:26
Myrtti!build-essential07:26
ubotuMyrtti: I give up, what is it?07:26
Concord_Dawn!packages opera07:26
ubotuI don't know, Concord_Dawn07:26
Myrttihm07:26
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Concord_Dawn!info opera07:26
logikal_is it in ther eor what?07:26
logikal_Yes it is07:27
logikal_I assure you, it's in there07:27
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logikal_gcc-4.007:27
logikal_do you have universe and multiverse on?07:27
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Hendricsee.. no opera07:27
Concord_Dawnno07:27
johnsie2I can't get videos to play on the BBC website07:27
Concord_Dawnlogikal_ gcc 3.3 is much more compat07:28
topyliopera is not in the standard ubuntu repositories. there probably is a repository somewhere where you can get it07:28
Myrttiand why bother with apt07:28
Concord_Dawntopyli, it's in uni/multiverse07:28
Myrttidownload the deb from their site07:28
Myrttiinstall with dpkg -i07:28
bob2Concord_Dawn: it's not07:29
bob2!+find bin/opera07:29
johnsie2how do i install the w32codecs?07:29
Concord_Dawn!w32codecs07:29
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)07:29
tristanmikeMyrtti, because the programs have been specifically "crafted" for ubuntu07:29
logikal_give him the java sun site...07:29
logikal_for the codecs07:29
Concord_Dawnok07:29
Concord_DawnDIE TOMCAT07:29
Concord_DawnI WANT TO SLAPZ0R YOU07:30
logikal_johnsie2, I find some codecs for most major types are in the repositories07:30
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ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/opera' returned no results.07:30
jhonnyplz, how can i play MP3 in ubuntu at all, rhythmbox, specially?07:30
johnsie2really im just looking to play wmv off bbc.co.uk07:31
topylijhonny: install gstreamer0.8-mad07:31
Myrtti!mp307:31
ubotuSee !restricted07:31
jhonnythx07:31
Concord_Dawnubotu: tell jhonny about restricted07:31
tristanmikejhonny, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad07:31
logikal_gcc-3.3 is in the repositories too.07:31
Concord_Dawnlogikal_ I recommend 3.3 over 4.007:31
Concord_Dawnconsidering apt wanted to remove a whole lot of programs when I went to install gcc 407:32
logikal_well i got the 3.3 c compiler, and the 4.0 c++ compiler.07:32
jhonnyok, but i had to enable extra reporitories07:32
topyliConcord_Dawn: i tend to recommend whatever the rest of the distribution is built with07:32
Concord_Dawnyeah07:32
jhonnyi can't find07:32
Concord_Dawnwhich is 3.307:32
Concord_Dawnjhonny, it's in universe.07:32
Concord_Dawnor multiverse07:32
logikal_O like amarok jhonny07:32
topyliConcord_Dawn: true with hoary07:32
Concord_Dawnyeah07:32
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Concord_Dawnbreezy built on gcc 4?07:32
logikal_amarok is the nicer MP3 Plater...07:32
irvinis cupsd enabled by default?07:32
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topyliConcord_Dawn: i think so07:33
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Concord_Dawnhm07:33
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Concord_Dawnshould I build tomcat from source, or get it in binary?07:33
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topyliConcord_Dawn: nope, gcc 3.4.5, sorry07:33
sumonneed help in scp07:33
sumonhow does it work?07:33
logikal_topyli, so should I get gcc 4.0?07:33
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topylilogikal_: no, i was wrong07:34
crimsunyou'll get gcc-4.0 as part of the Breezy dist-upgrade07:34
Concord_Dawn:)07:34
crimsun(if you have build-essential installed)07:34
Concord_Dawnshould I build tomcat from source, or get it in binary?07:34
logikal_uhhh07:34
luckyabahow do i install php?07:35
Concord_Dawn!php07:35
ubotuSee !lamp07:35
Concord_Dawn!lamp07:35
ubotumethinks lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP07:35
Concord_DawnEW.07:35
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Concord_Dawnluckyaba, you could use lamp07:35
Concord_DawnI recommend using the PHP packages in the repos.07:35
Hendricdoes opera support flash, java, video streams??? just like ff??07:35
Concord_Dawnyes Hendric07:35
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Concord_Dawnwhat's the difference from building from source and getting a binary?07:36
bob2there is no tomcat binary07:36
crimsunbuilding from source creates a binary07:36
HendricConcord_Dawn, that is soo cool... hopefully it does without the burden of firefox...07:36
crimsun(or binaries)07:36
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luckyabaconcord_dawn: lamp? is that the name of the package07:36
luckyaba?07:36
Concord_Dawnluckyaba follow the link that ubotu gave.07:37
sumonhmm07:37
sumonhow does lamp works with ubuntu?07:37
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Concord_Dawnyou install it07:37
Concord_Dawnit works07:37
Concord_Dawnno questions asked07:37
Concord_Dawnmind you07:37
HendricOMG.. opera installation did not place a menu... is this normal??????07:37
lightstartrace :  i tried uninstalling n reinstalling my anjuta..even as diff user...works fine..07:37
sumonyou have sites-enables in ubuntu right?07:37
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XiDuSxampp good for a lamp as well07:37
Concord_Dawnwith apt, you can apt everything and it all works.07:37
sumonya07:38
sumoni know07:38
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Concord_Dawnsumon, yeah, if you install apache from the repos.07:38
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bob2Hendric: please chill the hell out07:38
bob2Hendric: yes, it's normal07:38
johnsie2hmmmm.... I still cant get mplayer to play the videos on http://www.bbc.co.uk/news it plays a little bit and then stops07:38
sumonbut say if you have multiple sites and multiple configuration files..07:38
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sumonhow you can do it in lampp?07:38
Spudz0rzHey people, just wondering if anyone knows if i can get any kernel modules for the acer aspire 3002 (for ACPI), i needa read the battery, and currently it says it cant read it...07:38
crimsunSpudz0rz: are you running the Breezy RC?07:39
Hendricbob2, sorry. but i was expecting it to be a great software that places a menu for easy access.07:39
Spudz0rzcrimsun, hoary atm07:39
crimsunSpudz0rz: please try the Breezy RC (see the topic)07:39
sumonbreezy doesn't work07:39
bob2sumon: in what way?07:39
sumoni tried to install it .. it deleted all my configuration..07:40
sumonhad to re-install hoary07:40
bob2sumon: this sounds like you didn't know what you were doing07:40
Spudz0rz:S07:40
johnsie2can anyone help me with my streaming wmv problem in mplayer?07:41
sumonya i didn't know much that time..07:41
sumoni know a little better now..07:41
Spudz0rzcrimsun, i would rather wait for the full release to come out instead of having a testing stage os... :P07:41
Concord_Dawnhm07:41
topylisumon: just upgrade. you don't have to do a clean install of every release07:41
logikal_Ok07:42
sumonya i did apt-get update07:42
logikal_I went ahead and got the build-essentials07:42
logikal_and im installing this now07:42
logikal_checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!07:43
johnsie2dang it I'm gonna have to resort to fox news now cos they are the only ones who whose flash instead of WMV07:43
johnsie2lol07:43
crimsunSpudz0rz: you do realize it's out in 7 days, right?07:43
aztektumgoogle news07:43
Spudz0rzyeah i know07:43
logikal_johnsie07:43
logikal_you can get it working07:43
crimsunthe RC is a very close approximation07:43
logikal_use the repositories07:43
johnsie2how?07:43
crimsunif you're not comfortable installing it, try the live cd07:44
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sumonDawn: how can you make lampp work with multiple httpd.conf07:44
sumonlike ubuntu comes with 00default.conf07:45
Concord_Dawnyou don't need multiple httpd.confs.07:45
sumonhmm.. what if you have different mod-rewrites ?07:45
Concord_Dawncontain them inside a virtual server?07:46
sumonso you actually need multiple .confs for each of them correct?07:46
logikal_johnsie2, are you in ubuntu now?07:46
johnsie2yep07:46
logikal_gnome or kde?07:46
Concord_Dawnanyways07:46
johnsie2gnome07:46
Concord_Dawng'night07:46
sumonhmm what if you want use 44307:46
logikal_go to07:46
sumonthen you are thrown back to the other one right?07:46
logikal_find Synaptic Package installer07:46
logikal_it should be in system menu07:47
sumonok gnite07:47
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sumonbrb07:47
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johnsie2pakage manager?07:48
durtare you too lazy to simply read the news johnsie2?07:48
johnsie2no i wanna watch the videos on a news site07:48
josh43O, how do I find out if I have hardware 3d? glxgears goes 100% cpu, but fglrxinfo shows radeon 9800pro07:48
logikal_guys07:49
logikal_I want to07:49
logikal_apt-get install libx11-dev07:49
logikal_but it cant find it...07:49
topylijohnsie2: once you get the w32codecs and maybe realplayer, you can watch pretty much anything07:49
josh43logikal: what repositories do you have?07:49
logikal_universe and multiverse07:49
johnsie2i've been trying to get the w32 done07:49
logikal_enable all of those07:49
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logikal_the look for gstreamer0.8-mad07:49
josh43johnsie2, You can also use vlc - that's a contained package with just about everything07:50
johnsie2yeah... I want it embedded in mozilla07:51
NilXujosh43: vlc as in video lan client?07:51
josh43NilXu, Yeah, they changed the name to just vlc now07:51
durtjohnsie2: get mozplugger07:51
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winnerdoes anyone know how to use "Andale Mono" for rxvt?07:52
johnsie2how?07:52
NilXujosh43: right is it ain the base install or is does it have to be added?07:52
topylijohnsie2: vlc has a mozilla plugin. so does mplayer. so does totem07:52
josh43NilXu, I should know; I've been trying to compile it for 3 days ;)07:52
durtsudo apt-get install mozplugger07:52
josh43NilXu, It's in the repository assuming you dont have an athlon6407:52
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CSWookieAnybody here use gnucash?07:52
NilXujosh43: thats correct07:52
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johnsie2ok and what is mozplgger07:53
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josh43NilXu, so... it's not in the base install, but it's addable07:53
CSWookieI'm trying to use it for accounts payable/recievable, and I'm not seeing how to do it.07:53
NilXucool07:53
josh43So, how do I find out if I have hardware 3d? glxgears goes 100% cpu, but fglrxinfo shows radeon 9800pro07:53
durtmozplugger lets you view stuff (videos, audio, pdfs...) in your browser07:54
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oolonhi all07:54
topylijosh43: glxinfo | grep direct07:55
oolonif i wanted to boot into cli instead of X do i edit the /etc/inittab or is there a better way?07:55
johnsie2ok... I've app-getted it... now what?07:55
josh43topyli: It shows yes.. does that mean hardware 3d, I assume?07:55
topylijosh43: yes07:56
tritiumoolon, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start07:56
tritiumno fussing with runlevels07:56
josh43topyli: Perfect.. now.. is there anything to test it on besides glxgears? :) (Have been trying to get hardware 3d in ubuntu for 7 months!!)07:56
oolontritium, thanks :)07:56
tritiumoolon, :)07:56
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durttry the videos now johnsie2 (assuming you have mplayer installed)07:57
josh43durt: what's the best way to install mplayer in ubuntu?07:57
johnsie2it plays less then a second and then stops07:57
tritiumjosh43, use the ubuntu packages07:58
lightstarapt-get install mplayer07:58
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tritiumnot quite07:58
josh43tritium: I was afraid of that.. none list for me yet... I assume it's an a64 thing07:58
joe_hi guys07:58
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durtjohnsie2: what is the url that your trying to play?07:58
joe_anyone got a good player to recommend?07:58
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joe_realplayer quicktime07:59
tritiumjosh43, apt-cache search mplayer returns nothign?07:59
lightstaroops..apt-get install mplayer-38607:59
johnsie2anything in the http://news.bbc.co.uk/07:59
tritiumnothing even?07:59
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josh43tritium: Correct07:59
topylijosh43: try out a game. like tuxracer07:59
joe__ligh do you have to be root to instll?07:59
johnsie2i tried cnn too and it did the same thing :-/07:59
sumonhow do start mplayer?08:00
lightstarsumon : application->sound n video->mplayer08:00
josh43johnsie2, Why do you want it in the browser so bad anyways instead of in it's own window?08:00
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lightstaror from console mplayer08:01
jhonnyplz, what iochar should i use to configure a FAT partition? mine get problems with '' and '' chars08:01
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johnsie2so it fits in with the way the site is designed08:01
tritiumjosh43, you're on amd64?  do you run a 32-bit chroot?08:01
sumonhow do you install msn massanger in ubuntu?08:01
johnsie2lol08:01
tritiumsumon, most people use gaim08:01
propagandhior kopete08:01
topylisumon: gaim should already be there08:01
lightstarsumon : gaim is cool..but if u really 1 msn close then amsn is the way08:02
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sumonya i knw amsn..08:02
josh43Uhm.... tuxracer just made me have to log in again08:02
adiabaticI take it ubuntu-5.10-preview-live-i386.iso.torrent has been disabled because the RC is out now?08:02
sumonwhere is gaim?08:02
Hobbsee!gaim08:02
ubotugaim is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/08:02
josh43sumon: applications>internet>gaim08:02
lightstarsumon : in applications->internet08:02
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topylisumon: in the menu, among other internet apps08:03
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josh43that round goes to Hobbsee08:03
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Dreamer3ok08:03
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Dreamer3how can i stop eth0 from claiming the 0.0.0.0 route?08:03
durtjohnsie2: sometimes only the intro sequence plays, but for others the actual video plays - i dont know why08:03
Dreamer3when i dial with wvdial my dial-up doesn't work cause everything is routed wrong08:03
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johnsie2oh, thats ok.. thanks for the help anyway  :-)08:04
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johnsie2i think it might be cos i dont have w32ocodecs08:04
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Hobbseejosh43: *cheers*  what prize do i win for being the first reply?08:04
joe_ok it can't find the package mplayer08:04
joe_what do i do?08:04
johnsie2i tried the instructions from ubuntuguide.org and it gave me an error when I typed in the w32codecs line08:05
tritiumjoe_, apt-cache search mplayer to find the package for your arch08:05
Linuxpiehello everyone08:05
joe_i did that,08:05
Dreamer3anyone?08:05
joe_and says kerel for driver scaler on matrox08:05
tritiumjoe_, sounds like you don't have the multiverse repo listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list08:05
josh43Hobbsee; Uhm.. this stuffed 3" penguin (you put your weed in there)08:05
joe_how do i enable?08:06
propagandhiDreamer3: take a look at your /etc/network/interfaces file08:06
tritium!tell joe_ about repositories08:06
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Dreamer3propagandhi: ok :) and?08:06
sumonis there a scp client in ubuntu?08:06
tritiumjoe_, add multiverse repo, update, and try again08:06
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Dreamer3propagandhi: it looks about the same as on my deb box where i don't have this problem :)08:06
tritiumyes, sumon08:06
Hendricany suggestion for a light weight file manager? nautilus is hungry too...08:06
propagandhipaste in the pastebin08:06
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joe_thanks, i think i setup universe but not multi08:06
joe_i'll try it out08:06
Dreamer3propagandhi: me?08:06
Dreamer3propagandhi: i'm at console08:06
Hobbseejosh43: ooh cute penguin!08:06
joe_tri thanks08:06
tritiumsumon, it's in the openssh-client package08:06
sumontri : where is scp client?08:07
johnsie2when i typed in sudo apt-get install w32codecs I got an error message08:07
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tritiumsumon, /usr/bin/scp (should already be in your path), part of the openssh-client package08:07
propagandhiDreamer3: ahh ok08:07
sumondo I have to use command line for scp or can i use a gui?08:07
johnsie2E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate08:07
tritiumscp is a cli app, sumon.  If you want gui, try gftp08:07
lightstarsumon : u can use the gui..but the command line is much simpler08:08
Dreamer3propagandhi: anything in particular i'm looking for?08:08
tritiumjohnsie2, removed for legal reasons08:08
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johnsie2is there anywhere else that it is available?08:08
sumoncan you give me an example of scp in cli?08:08
tritiumsumon, try "man scp" for details, ok?08:08
tristanmike!tell johnsie2 about w32codecs08:08
propagandhiDreamer3: what is listed for eth008:08
lightstarsumon : simplest scp command " scp <your file> user@server:" if u 1 2 copy things over08:09
Dreamer3propagandhi: inet static08:09
Dreamer3address 10.10.5.208:09
Dreamer3netmask 255.255.0.008:10
sumonwhats the other way?08:10
Dreamer3gatweay 10.10.1.108:10
Dreamer3propagandhi: that's it08:10
sumonscp user@server filename localfilename?08:10
tritiumlightstar, 1 2?08:10
Dreamer3propagandhi: a 10.10.0.0 route would be nice, but not 0.0.0.008:10
lightstartritup : want to...damn too used to using short cuts:P..bad bad08:10
lightstartritum: damn spelling..1 2 = want to...damn too used to using short cuts:P..bad bad08:11
johnsie2what should I do once i download the w32codecs torrent?08:11
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prabu^Hello all08:11
logikal_is it a tar.gz ?08:11
prabu^anyone have any idea how the support for ubuntu amd64 is ?08:11
johnsie2w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb08:11
prabu^as in package availability,etc08:11
Dreamer3propagandhi: any thoguhts?08:12
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sumonhow do I know which version of ubuntu i have right now?08:12
tristanmikejohnsie2, "sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>08:12
tristanmikewithout quote08:12
luijohnsie2, why did u download the w32codecs, you could do it all with apt08:12
johnsie2ok then what?08:12
tritiumsumon, lsb_release -a08:12
tristanmikeenjoy08:13
johnsie2i cant it's not in apt anymore08:13
tristanmikelui, w32codecs removed for legal reasons08:13
propagandhiDreamer3: so even with that info there eth0 is using 0.0.0.0?08:13
sumonso I have hoary 5.0408:13
luioh, bad thing08:13
sumonif i want to make it breezy .. is it a good idea?08:13
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johnsie2w32codecs covers wmv right?08:14
joe_tri_ i can't seem to get it to work08:14
sumonso you think all my config files will be the same?08:14
luieven from backports?08:14
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tristanmikejohnsie2, wmv9 on 32 bit, should be ok08:14
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tristanmikelui, gone, poof, and java too08:14
luijava!!!?08:14
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joe__tritium i can't seem to get mplayer to install08:15
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tritiumlui, illegal to distribute it08:15
luish*tt!08:15
tristanmikelui, well, the "non-free" one08:15
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tritiumjoe_, you have multiverse?  did you update?08:15
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tritiumjoe_, which processor do you have?08:16
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joe_an old pII08:16
joe_i did update08:16
luiwhat should we do to end with those dumb illegal things? >:(08:16
joe_at least ithnk i did08:16
joe_i did it in the root terminal08:16
tritium!info mplayer-58608:16
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB08:16
joe_ok i'll try08:17
tritiumgood luck, and good night, joe_08:17
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joe_gnite08:17
joe_thanks again08:17
luibut libdvdcss2 is there right?08:18
tristanmikelui, nope, gone too08:18
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luioh my god....... this is bill gates thing! sure!!08:19
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sumoncan anybody give me some good things abt ubuntu.... good tools...??08:21
lightstarsumon : such as?08:21
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sumoni am new to ubuntu..08:22
sumonso anything would help08:22
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lightstarsumon : wat kinda r u looking 4? entertainment? games?08:23
sumonprogramming08:23
sumonhmm ya08:23
sumonalso games08:23
lightstarsumon : for programming u might take a look at anjuta..its a pretty decent ide..supports c,c++,php,etc..08:24
sumonis there any good editor?08:24
Hendricon what package does xlib6g belongs?? need to apt-get it..08:24
sumonhow can I get anjuta?08:24
lightstarsumon : as for games, the only ones i use are the default ones tat come with ubuntu...as for text editor i feel that gedit is fine08:24
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lightstarsumon : apt-get install anjuta08:24
bob2anjuta isn't a very good editor08:25
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Hendricbob2, can you help me with xlib6g ?? can't seem to find its package08:25
lightstarbob2 :  i have no complaints with it so far08:26
sumoni have Nvu..i think it comes with ubuntu08:26
lightstarsumon : if i aint mistaken isn't that for web authoring only?08:27
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bob2Hendric: if you're trying to run opera, you should mention that in your question08:28
sumonlight : hmm i think so.. ya..actually it is .. its kinda like frontpage . dreamweaver..08:28
bob2!+find xlib6g08:28
lightstarsumon : haha...u looking for a tool for specific programming language?08:28
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Hendricbob2, its for opera.. trying to instal motif. sorry08:29
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'xlib6g' returned no results.08:29
zorba64Hendric: are you looking for libx11-6?08:29
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Hendriczorba64, no xlib6g <-08:29
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bob2Hendric: I really doubt opera needs motif08:29
sumonnot really..08:30
sumoni am just looking what else can I do ...08:30
sumonany photoshop / paintshop kinda stuff?08:30
bob2sumon: gimp, which you already have installed08:30
lightstarsumon : gimp..haha..i dun do graphics editing..so i cant help ya much on tat08:30
Hendriccan't seem to make flash work. i installed it using d one from macromedia... firefox works already.. not opera08:30
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zorba64Hendric: http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/libs/xlib6g08:31
sumonany car games??08:31
LethALtorcs is a good car game apparently08:33
Hendrictnx08:33
LethAL:-)08:33
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sumonhow can I get that?08:33
sumontorcs?08:33
LethALsudo apt-get install torcs08:33
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LethALThe Open Rally Car Simulator iirc08:33
jmganyone using wpa?08:34
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zorba64Hendric: http://www.tuxfinder.com/debian/description.php?name=xlib6g&mode=108:35
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sumonhow can I play torcs?08:37
LethALPress alt-f2 and type torcs in08:37
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sumonoh how do I know if my soundcard is installed properly?08:37
LethALWhen you can hear things08:37
LethAL:D08:37
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irvinisn't cupsd enabled by default?08:38
irvini can install my printer without any hassle but i can't print a test page08:39
sumonoops08:39
melvztechieguys, any MMORPG games compatible or can be run in ubuntu?08:39
sumonit didn't work08:39
sumontorcs08:39
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bob2melvztechie: appdb.codeweavers.com08:40
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sumontorcs closes after a little while08:40
sumonand I don't hear anything08:41
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sumonLethal: torcs doesn't work08:41
melvztechiebob2: i guess am gonna learn this app. first:D08:41
sumonand its not giving me any sound...08:41
bob2?08:42
sumonso my soundcard is not installed properly..08:42
bob2it's a website08:42
irvinmelvztechie, there are lots of native mmorpg games that can run08:42
bob2sumon: jumping to conclusions like that seems silly08:42
sumonbob2 : how can I check my sound card?08:42
bob2nevermind08:43
logikal_http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/385926    anyone have any ideas? Compiling a theme for KDE08:43
melvztechieirvin: have u tried for example Gundbound? or Ragnarok?08:43
melvztechieirvin: or MUonline?08:43
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irvinmelvztechie, ahhh that kind.08:43
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melvztechieirvin: yup?08:44
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irvinmelvztechie, MU runs fine but with font problems08:44
atiHey everyone08:44
maxmouseim using breezy, is there a reason why wine isnt in the apt list ?08:44
irvinyou'll need cedega08:44
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Hendric!+find libXm.so.308:44
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ubotuUbuntu Search of 'libXm.so.3' (1 shown): (/usr/X11R6/lib/{libXm.so.3|libXm.so.3.0.2}) in multiverse/libs/libmotif3.08:45
root__hello08:45
jmgHendric: libxaw3dg08:45
logikal_maxmouse, enable universe and multiverse in your repository browser in synaptic08:45
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jmger08:45
root__anyone here08:45
jmgyeah what he said08:45
melvztechieirvin: so do we have this in our repository or this is a third party appl?08:45
jmgroot__: dont irc as root08:45
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root__i cant irc with xchat as normal user i keep getting a bluetinited xchat08:45
irvinmelvztechie, its commercial, but there's a free one from cvs. http://www.transgaming.org08:46
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Hendricd repos are broken... W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt-utils_0.6.40.1ubuntu8_i386.deb08:46
Hendric  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 08:46
xuniluserWhat printing command does Openoffice use? is it lpr?08:46
melvztechieirvin: oh i see, i thought its free, well ill check transgaming.org, thanks for the hint!!!08:46
melvztechieyou guys really rock!! tanks08:46
maxmouselogikal_, hmm i did that, and when i do an apt-get install wine it still says there is no installation candidate08:48
dooglusHendric: try this instead: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt-utils_0.6.40.1ubuntu9_i386.deb08:48
logikal_use synaptic maxmouse08:49
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dooglusHendric: what you probably need is "sudo apt-get update"08:50
Hendrick08:50
dooglus(but isn't that supposed to happen automatically?  or how does the update manager know there are updates?)08:50
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Hendricit should happen automatically08:51
Hendricbut well nothings perfect08:51
damnhil how do I disable "never remember the password for the site " in konqueror?08:51
dooglusmaxmouse: wine is in 'universe'.  you need to add the universe repositories08:51
dooglusdamnhil: #kubuntu08:52
aftertafdamnhil:  areyou using kwallet for password storage?08:52
maxmousedooglus, im pretty sure i just did that08:52
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damnhilaftertaf,yes08:53
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dooglusmaxmouse: did you 'update' afterwards?08:53
dooglus!repositories08:53
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))08:53
maxmousedooglast, does it not update itself?08:53
maxmousedooglus even08:53
maxmousesorry ;)08:53
dooglusmaxmouse: I don't know.  it's been months since I added anything08:53
maxmouseoh ok08:54
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logikal_Someone want to look at this?08:55
logikal_http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/38593008:55
logikal_I got that when doing "make" when trying to compile a theme08:55
logikal_for KDE08:55
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aftertaflogikal_:  try make clean first.....08:57
bob2logikal_: the makefile or instructions are broken08:57
aftertafor am i completely off the track??08:57
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Gimp`hey08:57
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bob2oh, and the tarball is screwed up08:58
Gimp`how would i mount a ntfs drive in ubuntu?08:58
bob2Gimp`: /msg ubotu ntfs08:58
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erickhi bob208:59
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logikal_I tried make clean09:00
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logikal_this is what it gives me09:00
erickjust want to ask if yahoo messenger with webcam possible in ubuntu?09:00
logikal_ake[1] : Entering directory `/home/logikal/QtCurve-0.23.1/QtCurve-0.23.1'09:00
logikal_make[1] : *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.09:00
logikal_make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/logikal/QtCurve-0.23.1/QtCurve-0.23.1'09:00
logikal_make: *** [clean-recursive]  Error 109:00
Hendricerick, not possible09:00
natescapeis there a linux version of yahoo messenger?09:00
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ColonelKernelnatescape, yes - but I'd use gaim if I were you09:00
bob2natescape: yes, and it's shit09:00
bob2natescape: use gaim09:00
bob2logikal_: the source is broken, talk to whoever made it09:01
bob2(ie the author)09:01
erickhendrick, what alternative messenger that can used with webcam09:01
logikal_well a guy on another channel did it fine09:01
irvinerick, gyach or ayttm09:01
ColonelKernelgyach? isnt that what snoop calls women/09:01
Gimp|woot09:02
Gimp|thx bob :)09:02
erickirvin thanks, i will research for that09:02
erickdoes gimp support webcam09:02
ColonelKernelnot yahoo webcam09:02
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erickyeah not yahoo,i want to use my webcam in gaim, but how? or it is possible or should I use gyach or ayttm09:03
bobothello... anyone using amarok in ubuntu 5.04? i can't play mp3s...09:04
irvinerick, you'll want to have gaim-vv instead09:04
erickgaim-vv? another version of gaim?09:04
Gimp|hmm09:04
sumonhow can I see what applications I have in ubuntu right now?09:04
Gimp|ubuntu cant play mp3 files by default?09:04
Hendricerick, i use gyach with webcams perfectly..09:05
sumonor is there anyways to see what can I get from apt-get install?09:05
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erickhendric, can I use sudo apt-get install gyach to install this packages09:05
Jedrickis it ok to run two terminals at a time09:05
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epic___sure is Jedrick09:06
gopihi09:06
Jedrickcause im updating using terminal and i want to launch another terminal to unpack sumthing09:06
Jedrickis it ok?09:06
epic___run as many as you like09:06
Jedrickok09:06
epic___sumon, use synaptic09:06
erickhendric can i use sudo apt-get install gyach?09:07
melvztechieJedrick: Its linux, that what we call a very good multi-tasking feature09:07
Hendricerick, its not available on the repos09:07
erickhendric so I will search and install it manually09:07
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Hendricerick, find the .rpm one.. then alien -i package.rpm09:08
Jedrickkool09:08
Hendricthen type gyach on the terminal..09:08
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logikal_How do i apply themes in KDE?09:08
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epic___#kubuntu logikal_09:09
erickhendric, where can I get a list of commands that use in ubuntu, bcoz this is my 1st tym to used ubuntu09:09
Hendricerick, dunno sorry09:09
erickhendric based on your experience what basic cmd should I know just to survive with ubuntu09:10
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epic___erick,   open a terminal and press TAB 4 or 5 times rapidly09:10
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Hendricepic___ is right about that... press the TAB rapidly and it will ask if you want to see all the commands09:11
N6REJdoes anyone know how to use aptitude?  I just installed Hoary and it says I have 2 broken files09:11
erickk i get -it epic thanks and hendric thanks also09:11
N6REJIt was trying to update after install09:11
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epic___tab complete is your friend  :)09:12
winnerwhat do you guys use to play wmvs?09:12
aftertafN6REJ:  sudo apt-get -f install09:12
N6REJaftertaf: so exit aptitude?09:12
aftertafyep09:12
aftertafharness the power of console ;)09:12
N6REJaftertaf: ok, I'll try09:12
Jedrickhow to know if my kernel supports ipv609:12
N6REJcc09:13
aftertafN6REJ:  did you mean, installed breezy? you said Hoary.....09:13
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epic___Jedrick, default ubuntu kernels support ipv09:13
epic___+609:14
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N6REJaftertaf: no I installed Hoary the Hedgehog.  I tried 18x to install breezy and was unable to get it installed.  Course I was unable to get hoary to install b4 2nite either.  I was using a 700mb RW disc b4 and 2nite I reburned on a straight CD now that I have more.09:14
Jedrickok09:14
jerrygi did not have my printer on when i installed ubuntu thus i no longer know if it is compatible.  is there a process i can go through to see if i can get it to work ?09:15
Jedrickso it supports ipv6?09:15
N6REJso since its an ancient sytem ( p2-350 ) I thought I'd try hoary first and if that didn't work fall back to warta (?)09:15
aftertafN6REJ:  knackered CD..... ?09:15
aftertafN6REJ:  how much ram?09:15
epic___Jedrick, have you looked at ifconfig?09:15
natescapeI have a serial cable running between two machines, and I can log in over the serial line (good).  But when I kill the getty and run "echo abcdefg > /dev/ttyS1" only the "abc" comes out on the other end.  Anyone got any theories as to why the rest gets truncated?09:15
N6REJI think bad compatibility between cd drives and 700mb cdrw format09:15
N6REJ384mb09:15
N6REJ:D09:15
aftertafoki09:15
N6REJold, but BIG BRAIN LOL09:16
Jedricknope09:16
aftertafN6REJ:  is it connected to the net?09:16
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N6REJyep09:16
erickguys gyach-1.9.8.tar.gz only available, how wil I install it09:16
natescapeI'm guessing there's an stty setting I need to change, but I'm not sure which.09:16
N6REJits nat'd though09:16
epic___anyhow, as I was saying, dafualt ubuntu kernels do, if you compile your own you will need to make sure you include it09:16
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epic___erick, read the README and INSTALL files in gyach-1.9.8.tar.gz09:17
aftertafN6REJ:  no pb.... can it contact the repositories?09:17
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N6REJaftertaf: I think so, I think it did and did a few files and thats when it had problems... let me hit enter now and see09:17
erickepic k thanks09:17
anthonyI was wondering whether anyone know which file determines what programs are started on boot-up?  Currently I have Gaim opening when I start, and I'd like to remove that line, but I don't remember the file.09:17
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N6REJaftertaf: dpkg replied you must manually configure ......09:18
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aftertafN6REJ:  pastebin if big error message..... ;)09:18
N6REJaftertaf: it CAN ping yahoo though.09:18
GillesRhi all09:18
N6REJhow, I"m not on it09:18
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aftertafsalut GillesR :)09:19
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N6REJI'm on my windoze box, its sitting across the counter09:19
aftertafhehe N6REJ09:19
N6REJtelnet in?09:19
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aftertafN6REJ:  have you set up the machineto connect to the reps? if so, do sudo apt-get update09:19
GillesRaftertaf: franais autoris ?09:20
anthonyI remember seeing this file at one time, but simply don't remember it's location.  It's the one containing things such as Order: 50, Command: tpb -d.09:20
aftertafGillesR:  pas trop....... :)    but there is ubuntu-fr is english is a pb :)09:20
N6REJaftertaf: I installed the cd, answered the q's it said take out the cd, it rebooted, downloaded a few files, and then said it broken and put me in aptitude.09:20
aftertafIm just doing my 'frimeur' by speaking frenh09:20
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aftertafN6REJ:  ok. can you do Alt F1 and open a console session?09:21
N6REJaftertaf: yep, I'm in there now09:21
aftertafoki09:21
aftertafN6REJ:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst09:21
erickepic what this error means, no acceptable C Compiler found $PATH Im installing gyach using ./configure09:21
aftertafN6REJ:  get your apt setup correctly :)09:22
N6REJaftertaf: I'm there09:22
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N6REJaftertaf:  <---- loves nano/pico09:22
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m00seHello09:22
N6REJaftertaf:  ok, let me look at it, see if i can make heads or tails... brb09:22
aftertafN6REJ:  ok. comment out cd deb line...., and uncomment the other deb http:// lines09:22
GillesRaftertaf: OK. I've just install Ubunto in a virtual PC session, but it's choose a too large screen resolution. I never see a normal screen and I don't know how change to a good resolution 800x600. can you help me please ?09:22
m00secan anyone help me with installing hoary on amd64?09:23
porkbellywould anyone be able to give me some help with installing ubuntu on a server, I seem to be stupid when it comes to scsi09:23
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aftertafGillesR:  you can edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and choose a lower default rsolution09:23
aftertaflol porkbelly :)09:23
porkbelly:(09:23
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gaeshiHello!09:24
porkbellyhi09:24
gaeshiPlease advise me some good tutorial for Linux09:24
N6REJaftertaf: ok back.  I commented out the first line which read "deb cdrom........" and uncommented the rest of the deb's.09:25
GillesRaftertaf: thank. I completely newbee. What do I write ? I'm currently on root...(09:25
Chousukegaeshi: What do you want to learn in particular?09:25
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aftertafN6REJ:  sudo apt-get update.....09:25
N6REJaftertaf: ok09:26
ocawhat minimum configuration that ubuntu satisfactorily run?09:26
Chousukegaeshi: Look at the wikis, use google and if you want to learn more advanced topics too, rute.sf.net09:26
gaeshiChousuke, I woulud like to start with anything09:26
aftertafGillesR:  on root? do you mean you are in a terminal? as root?09:26
ChousukeRUTE teaches you some command line09:26
gaeshibut I don"t know what to start from09:26
gaeshiRUTE?09:27
Chousukesee the urls09:27
Chousuke-s09:27
lightstargaeshi : tldp.org not bad as well...09:27
N6REJaftertaf: ok, fetched a bunch of package lists, and then gave me the dpkg failure error again.09:27
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erickgaeshi is ur ubuntu already installed09:27
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aftertafN6REJ:  sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade ??09:27
GillesRaftertaf: the prompt is "root@xxxx:/etc/X11 #"09:27
Chousukeoh, damn09:27
gaeshilightstar, I have watched tldp.org, but didn"t find anything simple enough - it"s just full of documentation09:27
Chousukerute's sf site is down :(09:28
nightytickirute is down Chousuke09:28
aftertafGillesR:  oki... you opened a root terminal.09:28
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erickepic i use the command ./confiure angd got this error no acceptable C compiler found in$PATH09:28
gaeshierick, yes, I have installed UBUNTU already09:28
aftertafGillesR:  we'll make a backup first ;)09:28
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Chousukenightyticki: hm :/09:28
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aftertafGillesR:  cp xorg.conf xorg.backup09:28
lightstargaeshi : :)09:28
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gaeshiChousuke, for example09:29
N6REJaftertaf: blah blah blah run "dpkg --configure -a" to correct..... Same error as before09:29
gaeshiI have installed the system09:29
erickgaeshi, try to explore fist on your ubuntu,its similar to windows do you want this machine connected to internet09:29
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GillesRaftertaf: done09:29
aftertafN6REJ:  what does dpkg blah say??09:29
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gaeshinow I want to type in Japanese, but I cannot09:29
erickaftertaf I gues its debian package manager09:30
aftertafGillesR:  ok. cool.  Did you choose to open a 'root' terminal ??09:30
aftertaferick:  that is borked on his system?09:30
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gaeshiI have used Mandrake 10.1 before, and I didn"t have any problems typing Japanese09:30
GillesRaftertaf: At boot I have choose recovery boot09:30
brownie17does anyone know where i can get some extra themes?09:30
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aftertafGillesR:  ohhhh :O   ok09:30
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gaeshiNow if I choose "Japanese"- it types only KATAKANA and nothing else09:31
aftertafGillesR:  best be VERY careful then ;)09:31
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Chousukehmm, rute's here: http://rute.2038bug.com/09:31
Chousukebut it covers quite advanced topics09:31
GillesRaftertaf: I follow you like a blind09:31
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aftertafGillesR:  you have an editor called nano, and one called pico. Do you know either?09:31
gaeshiChousuke, thx09:31
N6REJaftertaf: ok, running dpkg config solved the problem.. its upgrading dist now.09:31
aftertafN6REJ:  cool ;)09:32
GillesRaftertaf: nano run09:32
Chousukegaeshi: you may need to look at other tutorials before you're ready for rute09:32
aftertafGillesR:  ok....   nano & pico is the same thing anyway :)09:32
aftertafGillesR:  we'll edit your xorg.conf file.09:32
epic_brownie17, look at themes.gnome.org, www.gnome-lok.org, themes.freshmeat.net   and google it, there are laods of places09:32
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N6REJaftertaf: the other night I tried that a million times.. but didn't manually change the sources.list file first.... I bet that was the entire problem *sigh*09:32
aftertafGillesR:  nano xorg.conf09:32
N6REJaftertaf: we'll see what happens now.09:32
Chousukegaeshi: but if you're not interested in that much technical stuff, at least read the stuff it says about the command line and shell scripting :)09:32
aftertafN6REJ:  hehe shit happens to all of us  man :)09:32
aftertafN6REJ:  CD a bit borked, you're now online, should be 3 times as fine ;)09:33
gaeshiChousuke, the command line and shell scripting, ok09:33
GillesRaftertaf: done. I see header of file09:33
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Chousukegaeshi: they're really nice tools after you get to know them.09:33
vladuz976anybody know how to install skype in breezy. with apt it complains about a missing depency which i think only changed the name in breezy09:33
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bob2vladuz976: get the tarball instead09:34
nightytickivladuz976: if its name is the problem create a symlynk..09:34
gaeshiChousuke, are you using Japanese under ubuntu?09:34
N6REJaftertaf: yep, linux has taught me that for sure.  I'm a little surprised that the format difference between a 700mb cdrw and a straight 700mb cdr is enough to confuse the cdrom drive.  Just shows how old the poor girl is.09:34
bob2vladuz976: and it was more than a name change09:34
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aftertafGillesR:  ok. Cool..... Go down until you see a section calles Screen09:34
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aftertafN6REJ:  hardwear :)09:34
anthonySince some people have come in and out, I'll try this again:  Does anyone know which file determines what programs are started on startup?  Currently I have Gaim opening when I start, and I'd like to remove that line, but I don't remember the file.09:34
Chousukegaeshi: I was, yes. Currently I don't have a PC so I'm not running ubuntu, though.09:35
vladuz976bob2: there is gonna be no working skype in the repos?09:35
nightytickianthony: find out in the gaim conf file..09:35
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brownie17who here is familiar with Xfce? in synaptic should i download "Xfce" or Xfce4"?09:35
aftertafskype is separate...09:35
nightytickieverything is in the conf..09:35
epic_anthony, system, preferences, sessions09:35
gaeshiChousuke, I am unable to type Japanese - it only inputs katakana09:35
Chousukegaeshi: in gnome you pretty much only need a japanese input module and fonts.09:35
m00sei'm trying to install hoary on amd64 machine (nforce4, sata disk). the kernell oopses and dpkg segfaults during installation of the base system.09:35
Chousukewhat input module have you installed?09:35
GillesRaftertaf: i see 2 Subsection "display" with depth 1 for first 4 for second, then modes are "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"09:35
m00sedid anyonye here have similar problems?09:35
gaeshiChousuke, and the japanese input module is not included, is it?09:35
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irvinbrownie17, xfce409:35
Chousukeit can be installed.09:36
N6REJaftertaf: If you see a little 13 yr old boy come running up and give ya a big kiss, thats my son!  He just turned 13 yesterday and has been begging for a machine of his own to play COD on, and I was gonna have to give'm the p2 since I wasn't having any luck getting UBUNTU running on it, but now that it is, he gets an Athlon XP 1700+ :D09:36
gaeshiChousuke, I have got no idea09:36
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anthonyepic_: It gets listed in the current session, but not startup programs.  Yet it still starts.09:36
bob2vladuz976: if you want skype in ubuntu, the skype people need to let ubuntu include it09:36
Chousukegaeshi: see if you can install im-ja-canna from universe09:36
sifl_hi, i'm very new to all of this. my friend gave me this box with hoary on it and i'm trying to use it as a print server, but my printer comes with a software bundle not a driver, i have it working on this box with hoary, but i want to share it with my laptop running xp, is there a way to foward a usb port or something?09:36
epic_anthony, do you have it running when you log out?09:36
loststrykmorning all; can sometone tell me why 5.10 on a install always fubars when trying to installinitrd-tools ? i downloaded the iso 3 times now; same thing on every one..... however 5.04 works fine; any suggestions ?09:37
logikal_http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/38596309:37
gaeshiChousuke, is there any way how to see if I have installed the module?09:37
logikal_anyone can take a look, trying to install window decorations09:37
Chousukegaeshi: there are many types of modules.09:37
anthonyepic_: Not sure.  What would that do?09:37
Chousukeor rather, many different modules for japanese input09:37
Jedrickhow to check if my kernel supperts ipv6?09:37
GillesRaftertaf: oops there are more lines09:37
gaeshiChousuke, I have been using Canna under Mandrake09:38
Chousukeright-click on a text box and select "input method" from the context menu and see what the Japanese option is called.09:38
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aftertafGillesR:  ok.... you can remove the "1024x768" parts on each line....09:38
epic_anthony,   might be stored with 'save current setup' if you have it on09:38
Jedrickhow to check if my kernel supports ipv6?09:38
epic_im only guessing thogh, sorry09:38
aftertafN6REJ:  thanks... :) glad for both of you, man.09:39
Chousukegaeshi: it might be for example "uim" or "SCIM"09:39
N6REJloststryk: I was having the same problem... are you using a cdrw?09:39
sifl_is there a way to share a usb port over a network?09:39
GillesRaftertaf: done09:39
fekmoin09:39
anthonyepic_: Meaning if I logged out with that deselected, it shouldn't be up next time?09:39
loststrykdvd / dc writre09:39
Chousukesifl_: I doubt it.09:39
N6REJUHOH>>>> Computer just spouted weather alert!09:39
epic_anthony,   I would give it a go09:39
gaeshiChousuke, nope there isnt09:39
GillesRaftertaf: I suppose Ctrl O the reboot ?09:39
Chousukehmm09:39
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epic_Jedrick,     ubuntu default kernels do   have a look at ifconfig09:40
Chousukegaeshi: how do you turn on japanese input?09:40
loststrykugh brb09:40
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epic_ie: sudo ifconfig    (see if any interfaces have an ipv6 address09:40
Chousukesifl_: but it might be possible to share the device plugged in with USB09:40
epic_)09:40
aftertafGillesR:  better to reboot, yes. you were in recovery mode (i think)09:40
gaeshiChousuke, so I go to09:40
Jedrickepic_:  i do ifconfig but i dont see any ipv6 in there09:40
aftertafN6REJ:  where for?09:40
gaeshiChousuke, System --> Preferences --> Keyboard09:40
N6REJaftertaf: Murray, Ia09:40
rafatodo en English??09:40
ocai missed the answer: waht minimum hardware requirements that would satisfactorily run ubuntu?09:41
epic_Jedrick,   join #jed a sec09:41
aftertafMurray, Ia     indiana?09:41
gaeshiChousuke, under that there is a tab "Layouts". I add "Japanese"09:41
aftertafGillesR:  Ca a march?09:41
gaeshiChousuke, after that I go to Application --> Accessories --> Text editor09:41
sifl_Chousuke: that's my problem i'm trying to share a HP printer, but the printer came with a software bundle not a driver, there is no driver for it09:42
N6REJaftertaf: no, Iowa... its 36 Degrees outside right now, and going to hit 27 at least 2nite.09:42
GillesRaftertaf: it's rebooting ...09:42
N6REJaftertaf: That means the end of farm crops for this season!09:42
gaeshiChousuke, when I'm switching to Japanese, only Katakana appears09:42
aftertafN6REJ:  ok i dont know the abbrevs. ;)09:42
aftertafGillesR:  ok cool ;09:42
Chousukegaeshi: ah, you just made your keyboard japanese. You need an input method for kanji conversion09:42
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dmlinuxCan you mount a USB to install drivers ?09:43
N6REJaftertaf: Sorry, forgot... ok, that completed successfully!! YAHOOOOO.... so now try apt-get -f upgrade?09:43
gaeshiChousuke, I see.09:43
rafaHola algn usuario hispanoparlante?09:43
sifl_Chousuke: the printer works great with the hpijs driver, but that won't work for windows, so i either need my laptop to detect the printer and see through the hoary box, or i need to find a way to get the hpijs driver to work with windows09:43
aftertafN6REJ:  hehe what completed ok? so much has scrolled since :)09:43
dmlinuxAnyone here have Microsoft Intellimouse for bluetooth??09:43
aftertaf!es09:44
rafahola? hola?09:44
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:44
GillesRaftertaf: :( my screen is still expanded09:44
rafaok09:44
rafagracias09:44
N6REJsifl_: hpijs?09:44
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Chousukesifl_: share it with samba09:44
dmlinuxAnyone here have Microsoft Intellimouse for bluetooth??09:44
N6REJaftertaf: yeah, now what?09:44
aftertafGillesR:  oh dear....   Maybe VMware driver being a problem.... I dont know how to help you wth that... :/09:45
anthonySorry about that, I had some issues for a moment...09:45
gaeshiChousuke, what is 'universe' repository?09:45
aftertafN6REJ:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade completed?09:45
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gaeshieverybody, what is 'universe' repository??09:45
Chousukegaeshi: it's a set of not officially supported free software.09:45
N6REJaftertaf: yep09:45
aftertafN6REJ:  sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop :)09:45
Chousuke!universe09:45
ubotuask me about !repositories09:45
Chousuke!repositories09:45
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))09:46
gaeshi!universe09:46
GillesRaftertaf: thnks for all. I think I kill this virtual session and reinstall another. I will be more watchfull now. Thanks again09:46
aftertafN6REJ:  check the repositories link too.... enable universe & multiverse :)09:46
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gaeshiChousuke, thanks!09:46
N6REJaftertaf:  I did :D09:46
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aftertafGillesR:  ok... or grab one from work that isnt used much :)09:46
N6REJaftertaf: "invalid operation ubuntu-desktop"09:47
anthonyBy the way though, that involved rebooting, and Gaim still opened.09:47
GillesRaftertaf: buy see U soon. ;)09:47
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GillesRbye09:47
N6REJaftertaf: apt-get -f ubuntu-desktop ??09:47
anthonyThat's to epic_ by the way.09:47
aftertafN6REJ:  nope09:48
N6REJhmmmmmm09:48
Chousukegaeshi: you may want to try this: http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/09:48
aftertafsudo apt-get install  ubuntu-desktop09:48
Chousukeyou can skip installing scim-tables-zh and -ko and -hangul though09:48
N6REJaftertaf:  ah, ok... that makes sense.09:49
aftertafN6REJ:  hehe thx :)09:49
N6REJaftertaf: apt-get takes the place of CPAN I see09:49
aftertafGillesR:  pas de souci man ;)   quand tu veux.09:49
sifl_Chousuke: how do i do that?09:49
aftertafCPAN?09:49
loststryksorry back09:49
loststrykcan sometone tell me why 5.10 on a install always fubars when trying to installinitrd-tools ? i downloaded the iso 3 times now; same thing on every one..... however 5.04 works fine; any suggestions ?09:50
Chousukesifl_: install samba first, then configure it09:50
Chousukegoogle for info, I don't know09:50
N6REJaftertaf: CPAN is the perl repository and such that will auto-update/install any perl packages/modules/tidbits you might need... very very cool09:50
aftertafloststryk:  fubars how?     have you checked the MD5 checksum thing?09:50
loststrykyes the cd's are fine09:50
N6REJsifl_: what is hijs?09:50
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ChousukeN6REJ: it's a cups printer driver09:51
loststrykit just gets to unpacking then installing then it red screens and says it can't initrd-tools could not be installed09:51
aftertafok..... N6REJ .    apt is the best thing ever in the history of everything.....09:51
luckyabawhat program should i get to extract .zip files?09:51
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N6REJluckyaba: only one I've ever used is gunzip09:51
aftertafloststryk:  sounds like a big bad bug. Have you checked to see, or filed one?09:51
epic_anthony,   I have no idea...    someone else might be able to help.09:52
N6REJloststryk: I had the same problem... are you using a cdrw?09:52
aftertafloststryk:  why not *for now* install 5.04 then add ther 5.10 CD ns an apt source ?09:52
loststrykyes i am using a cd/dvd writer09:52
sifl_Chousuke: is there a way to get cups to work on a windows box?09:52
anthonyepic_: Thanks for trying.  Anyone else??09:52
loststrykaftertaf : i have no iea where or how to09:52
epic_anthony, you will have to state your question again09:52
N6REJloststryk: try a straight cdr... I had to change to that to get 5.04 to install.09:52
aftertafloststryk:  we do..... thats why youre here ;)09:52
N6REJloststryk: I haven't tried 5.10 yet that way.09:52
loststryki dont have a straight cdrom, 5.04 works fine though09:53
aftertafok. loststryk can you install 04 ?09:53
N6REJloststryk: no, I meant the media type.   Ok, then there is likely a BAD bug in 5.10 install cause I had the same exact error09:53
loststrykyeah 5.04 and below is fine09:53
loststrykif i install 5.04 can i upgrade to 5.10 easily ?09:54
Jedrickhow to check free space on my disk09:54
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aftertafloststryk:  if you have a standard CD-R, try burning 5.10 to it, instead of a CDRW (like N6REJ said)09:54
loststrykjedediah type df -h in a terminal09:54
aftertafJedrick:  df -h09:54
sifl_Chousuke: i already have samba, how do i configure it?09:54
aftertaf:)09:54
Jedrickok09:54
jedediahloststryk: Why?09:54
loststryki tried cd-r and cd-rw09:54
sifl_Chousuke: nevermind, i'll look that up online09:54
loststrykjedediah wrong person sorry09:54
anthonyI am wondering if anyone knows which file contains information about programs/processes to be run on startup.  Right now when I log in, Gaim starts automatically, and I would like to remove this.  I believe the file contains things such as order (i.e. 50) and command (in this case gaim).  I have seen it before, but do not remember its location or name.  Does anyone know?09:54
aftertafloststryk:  oki..... install hoary, then once installed.... you can upgrade via net, or with the 5.10 CD.09:55
loststryki meant Jedrick09:55
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N6REJanthony: I'm new to ubuntu but is it /etc/rc3.d ?09:55
bob2anthony: system, preferences, session09:55
aftertafloststryk:  and we can help you if you have pbs doing that...09:55
loststrykok will give that a bash aftertaf09:55
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Gimp|hey09:55
aftertaflooooooooool. nice pun dude loststryk09:55
loststryk:p09:55
anthonyN6REJ: I'll check.09:55
Gimp|how can i play mp3 files in ubuntu?09:55
anthonybob2: It doesn't show up under startup there.09:56
jedediahGimp|: Check the wiki, they have a good set of instructions09:56
aftertafGimp|:  ^^^^^09:56
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jedediahwiki.ubuntu.org IIRC09:56
aftertafloststryk:  itll work ;)09:56
Gimp|kk09:56
bob2Gimp|: /msg ubotu restricted09:56
anthonyN6REJ: Any suggestions on which file is likely?09:57
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N6REJanthony: uh, NO! LOL, I think I remember reading that ubuntu uses run level 3 so that should be the dir, but it could be in another.... in the fog of my brain I seem to remember a  "service" command ???09:58
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aftertafN6REJ:  its actually level 2 .... iirc09:58
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anthonyN6REJ: Do you have any more detail on this "service" command?  (What it was for, where it is, etc.)09:59
N6REJhang on, let me try to shake some cobwebs off of my rusty brain... ..../runs for a cig/09:59
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aftertafanthony:  you are talking about /etc/init.d/ and the scripts symlinked there by the different runlevels?10:00
aftertaf!cigarette10:00
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)10:00
aftertaf!cigarette N6REJ10:00
ubotuWish i knew, aftertaf10:00
anthonyaftertaf: Don't know.10:00
epic_I can't see gaim being launched from there10:00
aftertafanthony:  cos in your case its gaim opening every gnome session startup, right?10:00
epic_err gm10:00
anthonyN6REJ: btw, I found the entry for another program (that I want to run on startup) in /etc/rc.d/rc.local.10:01
anthonyaftertaf: Yes.10:01
aftertafanthony:  its not the runlevel initscripts things..... it is in a .gnome file in your home dir10:01
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N6REJanthony: /etc/rc.d/rc.local is for PERSONAL startups... always a good place to look... check rc.2 also10:01
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aftertafdunno which one exactly, but it'll be a hidden file /home/anthony/.[something] , maybe with rc at the end.....10:02
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Gimp|woot10:02
Gimp|that worked10:02
Gimp|thx :)10:02
aftertafw00t :)10:02
Gimp|1 more question10:02
aftertafthere always is.... ;)10:02
propagandhiwell i hope you can all pity me10:02
Gimp|how do i install cedega on ubuntu? :P10:03
N6REJaftertaf: installing the desktop caused a seg fault! OUCH10:03
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N6REJaftertaf: redoing dpkg config *sigh*10:03
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aftertafN6REJ:  erf!10:03
allan_hey, is it a common problem not to be able to compile and install the nvidia driver on breezy, even when CC is set to gcc-3.4?10:03
aftertafGimp|:  you purchase it and dpkg -i the .deb you buy.....10:03
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anthonyaftertaf: I have in my home directory: .gaim, .gconf, .gconfd, .gnome, .gnome2, .gnome2_private.10:04
aftertafallan_:  yep... use restricted moules instead, you have a precomiled one. You dont need to use the NVIDIA.run one....10:04
Gimp|someone said you could get it free10:04
Gimp|legally10:04
Gimp|you cant?10:04
aftertafanthony:  ask uncle google about gnome startup files, if noone here can help (i use kde so i cant help more than that)10:05
aftertafGimp|:  iirc, no. but i can be wrong ;)10:05
nightytickiepic_: try inittab10:05
Gimp|k10:05
Gimp|what about wine?10:05
all4naftertaf: could you tell me how to use the restricted modules?10:05
Gimp|how would i get that on here?10:05
aftertafN6REJ:  that sux man...... what caused the segfault10:05
N6REJaftertaf: let me try to find out.10:06
aftertafall4n:  you install them via apt, then you set "nvidia" as your display driver in xorg.conf.... thats all.10:06
anthonyaftertaf: I'll give it a shot.10:06
all4naftertaf: rocks!  thanks  :)10:06
aftertafwow....... i'm helping ppl this morning :) this is cool.10:06
aftertaf!cigarette10:06
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)10:06
epic_nightyticki,     for?10:06
aftertafbrb10:06
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all4naftertaf: hehe10:07
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sifl_anyone ever heard of adobe post script manager?10:09
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dodgyvilleIf my adsl modem wasn't being automatically detected and switched on by ubuntu, is there some "pon"-style command I can use?10:12
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Shin_Goukigood morning ubunut community!10:12
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commodorehi10:12
all4nShin_Gouki: morning10:12
Shin_Gouki:)10:12
commodorei'm a new ubuntu user but i'm not here for help currently10:13
commodorei just wanted to try out x-chat10:13
Shin_Goukixchat is cool10:13
commodoreseems so10:13
commodore:D10:13
Shin_Gouki:D10:13
all4nman.. I still can't get the Nvidia driver to work..  it's still complaining that my kernel module is 7174, while the driver is 7667.  Any other solutions?10:13
Shin_Goukiinfact those IRcchannels here are amazing!10:13
Shin_Goukiall4n , what Nv card?10:14
commodorewhy is everything in ubuntu (gnome?) AA-d?10:14
tristanmikegood night all10:14
all4nShin_Gouki: Geforce4 something10:14
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Shin_Goukicommodore: it si NOT , im running Icewm :)10:14
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Shin_Goukiall4n , explain a bit in detail ur install of the system and WHAts not running what u want to get running10:15
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N6REJaftertaf: dpkg caused the seg fault10:15
commodorei'd like to try out kubuntu too but i don't want to make more entries to the grub list10:15
commodorei'll do it someday anyways10:15
Shin_Goukicommodore10:15
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Shin_Goukicommodore, try icewm its even more cool , then KDE!!10:16
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Shin_Goukihi anyone here who knows icewm?10:17
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commodorei know icewm because i just googled it :D10:17
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Shin_Goukicommodore10:18
Shin_Goukicommodore, u know what even better is for THAT kind of research then google?10:18
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bob2freshmeat.net10:18
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commodorelinux google?10:19
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thebigearlhi !10:20
commodorehi10:20
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all4nthebigearl: hey10:20
Shin_Goukicommodore, wikipedia10:20
Shin_Goukicommodore, go for it10:20
thebigearlis it possible to pre-order some ubuntu 5.10 cd's ?10:20
gaeshiShin_Gouki, I've been using icewm for a few days10:20
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commodorewhy are so many linux sites .org ?10:21
all4nShin_Gouki: did you get my message?  I tried to send you the details through /msg, to avoid putting up a too big post on the channel10:21
Shin_Goukigaeshi, thats nice!10:21
Chousukecommodore: because they're not commercial10:21
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Chousukebut rather organisations.10:21
commodorecom is for commercial?10:21
Chousukeyes.10:21
Shin_Goukicommodore, wikipedia plz type in icewm in wikipedia!10:21
commodoreand org is for organisation?10:21
thebigearljepp10:21
Chousuke.commercial, .network, .organisation10:21
Shin_Goukiright10:21
commodorei'm doing it right now10:21
gaeshi.government .military10:21
Shin_Goukigaeshi, do u know how to switch the background image?10:22
Chousukeand others.10:22
bob2.internationale10:22
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gaeshiShin_Gouki, well, it was easy, but i don't have icewm on my box right now10:23
commodorewhere can i find icewm screenshots?10:23
gaeshiicewm_theme10:23
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gaeshiShin_Gouki, there was a tool to switch icewm_theme10:23
Shin_Goukigaeshi, or how do i create my own shortscuts on taskbar? do u have good tutorial site?10:23
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thebigearlcan i pre-order breezy badger cds anywhere ?10:23
commodoretheme screenshots are bad :(10:24
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gaeshiShin_Gouki, I was using VineLinux10:24
N6REJaftertaf: apititude is working now :D  it is doing what dpkg won't.  I think dpkg maybe got a bad lib file in the process.. we'll see if aptitude finishs neatly.10:24
barongasWhat's the easiest way to format a secondary harddrive I have plugged to my sweet ubuntu box?10:24
gaeshihttp://www.icewm.org/themes/10:25
gaeshiShin_Gouki, http://www.icewm.org/themes/10:25
Shin_Goukigaeshi, is VineLinux a ICE WM coinfig tool?10:25
gaeshiShin_Gouki, VineLinux is a distro10:26
gaeshiShin_Gouki, it is a Red-Hat based Linux made by some Japanese developers10:27
commodoreis "high definition audi controller" basicly the sound card?10:27
Shin_Goukigaeshi, hm i see, i am just looking for an icewm config tool , preferbly GUI10:27
commodorethe device manager in ubuntu is crazy, all those numbers and stuff, i can't understand it, windows device manager was easy10:28
Pickle_Weaselwhat country is ubuntu based in?10:28
commodoreis "high definition audi controller" basicly the sound card?10:28
Shin_Goukicommodore, did u tried the wikipedia?10:29
commodoreyes10:29
Shin_Gouki:)10:29
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gaeshiShin_Gouki, try #icewm channel10:29
commodorei tried it for icewm not other stuff10:29
Shin_Goukigaeshi, thx!!110:30
Shin_Goukicommodore, commodore u will find beter infos then on gooogle! bnecause its more precise!10:30
commodorei don't have sound on ubuntu and my comp is intel (i386 or how do people say to it)10:31
commodoreeverything works on windows10:31
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commodoreand I'm quite sure that live cd worked too10:31
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Nadienhi10:31
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Nadieni am prostitute10:31
JedrickHow to enable javascript on my browser10:32
gaeshiShin_Gouki, there is a tool icecc10:32
gaeshiShin_Gouki, icecc means IceWM Control Center10:32
Nadienhave sex10:32
Pickle_Weasel!tell Jedrick about java10:32
commodoreXD nadien10:32
Nadienhi10:33
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Nadienyeah10:33
gaeshiShin_Gouki, and there are lots of themes for icewm on sourceforge/freshmeat10:33
Nadieni am prostitute10:33
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gaeshiNadien, cool!10:34
verhi there! i found a bug in breezy rc1. i tried to commit a bug report to bugzilla but it doesnt support image uploads since i only took a picture of the bug. what to do?10:34
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bob2it supports attachments10:34
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brownie17can somone tell me how to set up keyboard shortcuts on xfce?10:35
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Shin_Goukigaeshi, do u have website about icecc?10:35
brownie17irvin, do you know anything about keyboard shortcuts on xfce?10:36
Nadienwant sex free?10:36
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shermanfor all those who care, i am updating to breezy's packages using the wiki in the topic....10:36
gaeshiShin_Gouki http://icecc.sourceforge.net/10:36
Shin_Goukigaeshi, tank u so much!10:36
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gaeshiShin_Gouki, welcome!10:37
Nadienwant sex free?10:37
ompaulsherman, enjoy10:37
aftertafNadien:  leave please10:37
gaeshiNadien, sure!10:37
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aftertafthx bob2  :)10:37
shermanhopefully ompaul10:37
ompaulbob2, :)10:37
aftertafif i may, twat!!!!!10:37
gaeshi:))))10:37
brownie17bob2, :)10:37
commodoreare there any apps for linux that show the stuff my box has? i'm sure there's plenty10:38
bob2commodore: where stuff = ?10:38
ompaulcommodore, there are [I could leave it there]  synapatic is one way10:38
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ompaulcommodore, can you be more specific about what stuff is10:38
commodorehard drive, graphics card, sound card, processor10:39
commodorei know device manager but i don't like it10:39
brownie17where can i find a menu in xfce similiar to the "computer" window in gnome10:40
melvztechiehello guys, I just tried installing Java fo FF using synp and manual install, enabled already FF 4 java support, but still no luck to get it workin?10:40
melvztechiewhats the proper way to setup java for firefox?10:40
aftertaf!java10:40
ubotuI guess java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java10:40
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brownie17is there another support channel specific to xfce problems?10:41
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melvztechieubotu: okey ill check on that, tanks!!!10:43
ubotumelvztechie: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about10:43
commodorehelp me please10:43
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commodorei don't have a clue how to call an app like that but i have seen them before on windows10:43
bob2I don't know of any on linux10:44
bob2what do you want it for?10:44
Shin_Goukihi how do i install qt on my ubuntu?10:44
commodorei wanna know what stuff i have on my comp10:44
commodorei could do it throw windows but i don't want to10:45
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bob2Shin_Gouki: that's not your real question, tell us what you're trying to do10:45
bob2commodore: that's a shame10:45
cypaHi10:45
commodoreis it benchmark?10:45
commodoreis it called *10:46
Shin_Goukibob2 i tried to install icecc a control center for icewm but then it said: icecc: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:46
cypa  ?10:46
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cypais there anybody speaking russian10:46
Shin_Goukicommodore, whats ur prob waht ur looking for?10:46
cypa?10:46
Shin_Goukienglish i guess10:46
bob2Shin_Gouki: packages.ubuntu.com will tell you what file that is in10:46
commodorei'm learning russian in school but very bad10:46
derFlocommodore? do you want something like the "Device Manager"?10:46
bob2Shin_Gouki: hint: libqt3c102-mt10:47
commodoreja ne gavarju po russki10:47
commodoreyes derFlo10:47
Shin_Goukibob2, ur speaking not "easy" engough to me10:47
commodoreexactly10:47
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derFloand you have ubuntu?10:47
Shin_Goukibob2, is this " libqt3c102-mt" a pkg i need to install via apt-get?10:47
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LethALShin_Gouki, try libqt310:47
cypacommodore, Russian is cool10:47
commodorei have ubuntu10:48
Shin_GoukiLethAL , whats the apt-get isntall command?10:48
LethALShin_Gouki, Or it might be lib-qt3-dev or similar10:48
derFloit is in system->sysconfig->devices (i have a german system, so i have to guess the names)?10:48
LethALapt-cache search qt310:48
cypabut I am interesting about russian locale for Thunderbird Ubuntu package10:48
bob2Shin_Gouki: indeed10:48
bob2LethAL: that won't work10:48
Shin_Goukiwhy?10:48
commodorei want something like the device manager not it10:48
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bob2Shin_Gouki: because it doesn't contain that file10:49
olicathi all. in openoffice (breezy) i'm trying to get a presentation printed, with two slides and their notes on one page. can't get it working though, any ideas where i set that up?10:49
derFlocommodore. what is the difference between it and the device manager?10:49
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propagandhicommodore: go back to windows10:49
Shin_Goukibob2 ok i try now ur search suggest10:49
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derFloit is even called "device manager"!!!10:50
brownie17who knows anything about xfce?10:50
LethALolicat, you have to install the printer in System > Administration > Printers10:50
rob^#xfce10:50
commodore:D again i'm speaking so bad noone can understand me correctly10:50
olicatLethAL, i've got the printer working, but ooo only prints one slide per page10:50
commodoreok i'm leaving the channel now, i'll be back sometime this year :P10:50
LethALHmm...10:51
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LethALWell I've never used OOo on Ubuntu...10:51
derFlohmmm10:51
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osfameronOOo is slightly less horrid on ubuntu than it is on windows10:51
Shin_Goukibob2, im too clumsy for that search engine :/ is this my keyword:   libqt-mt.so.3 ..?10:52
Jedrickhow to make scripts executable10:52
lightstarchmod 700 <sctipsname>10:52
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bob2Shin_Gouki: yes10:52
rob^I dunno, OOo does the basics pretty well10:52
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LethALWoah... blank DVD+R through the post... groovay10:53
rob^some interface qurks sure..10:53
LethALShae I don't have a DVD burner...10:53
Shin_Goukibob2, but the search string must be incomplete it didn't find anything what else do i have to specify??10:53
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sifl_anyone know of a way to get cups or foomatic to work on a windows machine?10:54
bob2Shin_Gouki: scroll down. you want the package contents search page10:54
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sifl_this is rediculous, this printer is easy to configure over a network with linux, but next to impossible with windows xp :'(10:55
rob^lucky you sifl_10:55
YeTr2sifl_, windows printing to cups? easy.10:55
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Shin_Goukibob2, there was 2 results, showing the file and 2 diffrent paths...what now?10:56
derFlosifl_: IPP ?10:57
sifl_it's my printer, the hpijs driver can be used to have it print over a network, but the software bundle it came with, that installs the printer w/o a driver can't print over a network10:57
bob2Shin_Gouki: ?10:57
YeTr2any documentation on setting up nvidia stuff for 5.10 ?10:57
bob2Shin_Gouki: it told you the package name to install10:57
Hobbsee!nvidia10:57
ubotusomebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:57
derFlosifl_: although you are on a ubuntu channel, i'd help you on a private chan10:58
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Shin_Goukibob2 im very clumsy i found also the package name..but what is the command for installing it?10:58
bob2Shin_Gouki: you've really never installed a package on ubuntu before?10:58
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cypaabout ATI driver in ubuntu hoary10:59
YeTr2sifl_, which way of printing are you talking about? windows>linux or linux>windows ?10:59
Shin_Goukibob2 , only with apt-get?10:59
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cypait doesn't work10:59
bob2Shin_Gouki: then use apt-get10:59
Shin_Goukibob2 , im using ubuntu for 3  days no 5 days10:59
cypaon ASUS Pundit-R barabone10:59
aftertafShin_Gouki:  apt is good for the soul10:59
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bettong_BOFHi've been useing it sence april and i am glad i chose it10:59
stjepanhello11:00
stjepanmay I use debian repositories?11:00
aftertafbettong_BOFH:  good for you dude ;)11:00
bob2stjepan: no11:00
LethALI've been using it for about 3-4 weeks :-)11:00
LethAL:P11:00
bettong_BOFHdefinatly an awsome os ^_^11:00
aftertafStje ad idea11:00
Hobbseestjepan: what for?11:00
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sifl_windows>linux11:00
Hobbseestjepan: as in, some stuff works, some doesnt, i think is the answer11:00
derFlosifl_: Cups is using IPP.11:00
LethALNice sarcasm sifl_11:00
dazedlo11:00
derFloso you have to add an so-called TCP/IP-Port11:01
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derFlogood luck11:01
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sifl_i just don't get it, everything is set up on the linux side, and my windows machine can see the printer, i just can't find a network driver for it11:01
YeTr2sifl_, don't bother with installing the bundled junk from the printer. use the Generic/M$ Image Letter driver that has been included with every version of windows wince 98se and print via cups, not samba11:02
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YeTr2sifl_, and just as a note, acrobat reader 6.0+ doesn't work printing over to a cups server for me11:02
CaiN_SAis skype in multiverse ?11:03
Jedrickhow to make a script executable?11:03
Jedrickcan someone help me11:03
dooglusI think I've found a firefox bug.  Could someone try this link and tell me if it crashes firefox please?  http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/crash.htm11:03
Hobbsee!chmod11:03
LethAL!tell Jedrick about chmod11:03
ubotuhmm... chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.11:03
sifl_:'( it's sad when you start understanding linux more than windows11:03
LethALGah11:03
brownie17Jedrick, right click it and select properties11:03
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brownie17Jedrick, then the permissions tab, then check all "execute" boxes11:03
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bob2linux tends to make more sense11:03
Jedrickok11:03
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LethALAnd not crash randomly11:04
YeTr2sifl_, http://localhost:631/ on the print server11:04
brownie17i don't think i'll ever understand linux properly11:04
Hobbseedooglus: works here, but i'm not sure if adblock is affecting it11:04
bettong_BOFHthe only time my box crashes is when the power go's out11:04
dooglusHobbsee: did you click the link?11:04
Hobbseeyeah11:04
Hobbseeit opened in a new tab, clicked on that one11:04
dooglusHobbsee: and then?11:04
Hobbseebrought back the same page11:04
Hobbseekept clicking, kept bringing back the same page11:05
dooglusHobbsee: thanks.  what version of the fox?11:05
Hobbseeno crashing at all11:05
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derFlosifl-: 1) Create a new "Internetport". 2) Use the built-in windows-drivers for you HPXXX 3) finish11:05
Hobbsee1.0.7 in breezy i think11:05
Hobbseeyeah11:06
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dooglusweird.  1.0.7 in breezy is what crashes for me.11:06
YeTr2sifl_, basically, you need the name of the printer you used on the linux box, so you can use the 'connect to a printer on the internet' option in windows, which accepts an entry like 'http://(printerserverip):631/printers/(printername)'11:06
poyiehow to configure windows display to 1024x80011:06
poyiehow to configure windows display to 1024x800?11:06
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sifl_that part isn't my problem11:07
sifl_i can find the printer i can get all the way to where it asks for a driver11:07
nikls#join ubuntu-fr11:07
gaeshiplease advise some good c/c++ source editor11:08
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gaeshi!c11:08
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ubotugaeshi: I don't know, could you explain it?11:08
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gaeshi!script editor11:08
ubotuI don't know, gaeshi11:08
YeTr2sifl_, use the `generic/ MS ImageLetter driver`11:08
dooglusHobbsee: could you try in a new profile?  (run 'firefox -p' to get the profile manager)11:08
sifl_where is that?11:08
brownie17xfce is stupid11:08
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Jeromeedoes anyone know where I could find a list of RAID cards that are supported by ubuntu?11:09
YeTr2it should be under the Generic driver list11:09
irvinbrownie17, why do you think that?11:09
olicatis openoffice just complete rubbish? i cant find a way of printing more than 1 slide per page + notes, AND it can't print without the filepath at the bottom.11:09
brownie17irvin, you cannot stretch the panel11:09
irvinsure you can11:09
brownie17irvin, how?11:10
sifl_my bad, don't know how i missed it11:10
YeTr2under manufacture, select generic11:10
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YeTr2M$ Publisher ImageLetter11:10
edward_anybody here who can help with installing a jre on ubuntu ?11:10
Hobbseedooglus: not currently, dinner here11:11
sifl_YeTr2: i hate windows...11:11
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sifl_YeTr2: i found it11:11
Hobbsee!tell edward_ about java11:11
YeTr2cups accepts the output from that printer driver without any problem11:11
YeTr2don't know abou tsamba thou11:11
dooglusHobbsee: ok.  I'll report it anyway, since it crashes for me in a clean profile.11:11
brownie17irvin, how?11:11
Hobbseei can check in a while, after dinner, but not now11:11
doogluswhere should I report it?  ubuntu or mozilla?11:11
dazedjust did a net install of powerpc hoary, on it now but Firefox is having trouble connecting to sites, any ideas?11:11
edward_i have tried to follo the HOWTO in the forum but i can't find the "make-jpkg "11:12
edward_has anybody used it before ?11:12
darksatanicedward_: It's in the "java-package" package.11:12
epic_olicat, did you try selecting the range of pages to print?11:12
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olicatepic_, just selecting 1 page at the moment11:13
Jeromeeanyone?11:13
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brownie17Jeromee, google11:14
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brownie17does anyone know how to stretch the panel in XFCE11:14
LethALI don't know, but I'd like to11:15
epic_olicat,    tried printing from the outline view?11:16
epic_ack  phone11:16
epic_bb11:16
Shin_Goukibob2 how can i FASt switch my shell language to english? is it possible? i want to paste somewere an aeror message but my native language is german , so?11:16
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olicatepic_, needs to be handouts11:17
ompaulShin_Gouki, paste it and we can see if we can figure out what the message is11:17
Shin_Goukisec ompaul11:17
freeflyinghttp://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugs/2005-July/066834.html11:17
freeflyinganyone have met this11:18
mvirkkilShin_Gouki: LANG=en_US.UFT-811:18
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Shin_Goukiompaul, bob2 here we go: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/284511:18
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sifl_the printer keeps teasing me and making sounds like it's gonna print, but then it stops11:19
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YeTr2hmm11:19
sifl_the linux box says it's printing 1 page and the windows machine says it sent 1 page11:19
ompaulShin_Gouki, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin pleas11:20
bob2Shin_Gouki: you got that .deb from Debian?11:20
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Adri2000hi11:22
ompaul'lo11:22
Shin_Goukiompual bob2 here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/284611:22
Adri2000i just want to know, how is defined the order of lauching scripts in /etc/rcS.d11:22
Shin_Goukibob2 , yes debian is it problem?11:23
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bob2Shin_Gouki: yes11:23
bob2Shin_Gouki: don't do that11:23
sifl_YeTr2: i'm printing directly to cups11:23
Adri2000because i have a script for wpa (wifi), and the networking script, i want wpa to be loaded before11:23
bob2Adri2000: why don't you just setup WPA out of /etc/network/interfaces?11:23
Shin_Goukibob2, but i want to use that software...so now?11:23
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Adri2000bob2: how should i do ?11:24
melvztechieThis is so cool, Ubuntu so easy to install printer with HP Jetdirect, no flaw at all!!!11:24
Adri2000wpa mustn be laoded by sudo /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant start11:24
YeTr2brb11:25
epic_olicat,   have you asked in #openoffice.org   ?11:25
Shin_Goukibob2, if i cant compile, is there any way..?11:25
JeromeeIs anyone running a raid card under ubuntu?11:25
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olicatepic_, yeah, was completely ignored by everyone11:26
bob2Shin_Gouki: no11:26
bob2Jeromee: lots of people use real raid cards, yes11:26
Skid3ware!11:27
Skid:_)11:27
JeromeeI'm just trying to find a Decent Raid card for ubuntu, one thats easily supported11:27
Jeromeeany ideas?11:27
Skiduse a 3ware11:27
Skiditshardware11:27
Skidso it's fine :)11:27
bob2Jeromee: 3ware make the only hardware IDE raid cards I've heard of11:27
Skidany 3ware practically is the market leader imo..11:28
bob2lots of companies make SCSI ones, and they should all work out of the box11:28
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Jeromeeso, any 3ware raid card, should work fine?11:28
leaforest     ~~11:28
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epic_olicat,   how many slides do you want on each handout?11:28
Yetr2bah.... nvidia still isn't loading11:29
bob2leaforest: english, please11:29
Skidif it's a hardware card, its got it own interface anyway11:29
Chousukeleaforest: very few people here are able to see UTF-8, let alone read korean :P11:29
sifl_YeTr2: i don't know my cups user name and passwore11:29
Skidsoftware raid isn't worth the cheap price to pay for it11:29
ChousukeThe latter group includes me, so please use English :)11:29
Adri2000bob2: what should i put in /etc/network/interfaces to load wpasupplicant ?11:29
Yetr2sifl_, its your root account and it's password11:29
olicatepic_, 1 slide with notes. i get it printed, but it prints the file path and name, which obscures the notes11:29
sifl_Yetr2: it's not working11:30
brownie17Chousuke, i can see utf-811:30
brownie17Chousuke, but korean is way over my head11:30
Chousukehehe.11:30
ChousukeMe too :p11:30
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Yetr2or atleast it should be...11:31
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Yetr2gimmie a minute11:31
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shandaroo11:32
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shandara swedish guy!11:32
Chousuke:P11:32
ChousukeI can speak some swedish ;P11:32
shandarhaha11:32
sifl_i know very little danish11:32
shandarWell Chousuke, Hej! hur mr du?11:32
ompaulif it is gut I will be surprised11:33
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leaforesteveryone are using 5.10 rc?11:33
erickGuys email question just want to try ubuntu for my email server,what is the best MTA will i use11:33
leaforest5.10rc?11:33
leaforest??11:33
leaforesthow can i check my hdd drive for bad sector??11:33
ompaulleaforest, no some people use fedora but a lot of people use it :)11:33
loststrykno am using 5.0411:33
leaforest?11:34
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shandar5.04 here11:34
Seveaserick, I like courier but postfix is nice too11:34
dooglusleaforest: I'm using the current version.  There have been updates since the 1st rc11:34
Yetr2postfix or sendmail11:34
sifl_it's "Jeg elsker dig."11:34
Chousukeshandar: bra, tack. :P And that's about it11:34
shandarChousuke, That's a start :P11:34
sifl_or at least that's the only one i can spell...11:34
shandarChousuke, Where are you from?11:35
ChousukeFinland.11:35
Yetr2sifl_, this cups server using ubuntu?11:35
shandarAh.11:35
erickseveas, I also use postfix but in my redhat, is postfix posible for ubuntu?if yes what packages will I use11:35
sifl_Yetr2: yes, hoary11:35
Seveaspostfix is installed by default in Ubuntu11:35
ompaulleaforest, what error message are you getting that makes you think you might have that problem?11:35
ChousukeI never got to use swedish in real life.11:36
Chousukeonly at school11:36
erickah k, how will i know the version of postfix installed11:36
Chousukewhich explains why I suck at using it.11:36
claeserick, dpkg -l postfix11:36
Seveasdpkg -l 'postfix*'11:36
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crimsun(note that brand new installations of Breezy will lack postfix, or any MTA for that matter)11:37
sifl_yeah, my girlfriend wants me to go to denmark with her and meet her relatives and the only danish phrases i know are "i love you" and "ladybug" and i can't spell ladybug in danish11:37
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Yetr2sifl_, I don't know how, but I guess ubuntu has changed cups more than I believed it could...11:37
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gaeshipeople11:37
erickclaes, not installed11:37
gaeshiis there any MSDOS emulator?11:38
shandarbtw, I've asked this before but no one has been able to answer me. Is there any way to force a resolution and refresh rate and simply ignore that the screen and vidcard will scream no? I know that the res works, but my screen doesn't officially support it...11:38
Archergaeshi, install dosbox11:38
claeserick, sudo aptitude install postfix11:38
Yetr2sifl_, try using the gui tool and see what it says about jobs there11:38
gaeshi!dosbox11:38
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, gaeshi11:38
Yetr2gaeshi, dosbox11:38
Seveas!info dosbox11:38
ubotudosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB11:38
erickk claes thanks11:38
gaeshiArcher, Yetr2, thanks!11:39
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gaeshihow to install it?11:39
Seveasshandar, put it in xorg.conf and remove all other resolutions from that file11:39
erickclaes one more thing, what are the site that can i blocked for my postfix to tell it is spammer11:39
Seveasgaeshi, same as any other piece of software: apt-get or synaptic11:39
Yetr2hmm... I still don't have the nvidia module...11:39
shandarSeveas, I've done that, but then I only get it at 60 Hz, I need it at 72 Hz.11:39
sifl_Yetr2: it says printing 1 jobs and when i go to properties it says status: printing: usb port busy; will retry in 30 seconds...11:39
Seveaserick, the documentation of postfix contains lists of RBL sites11:39
erickah, is that updated?11:40
claeserick, To use a blacklist you mean?11:40
Seveasshandar, then you need to fidle with your VertRefresh11:40
erickyeah claes,11:40
shandarSeveas, and yes, I have edited the h-sync and v-refresh11:40
erickwhat to stop the spammer11:40
gaeshiSeveas, thanks!11:40
Seveasshandar, well, then you have now reached the end of my X knowledge, sorry11:40
claeserick,  rblcheck   <-- checks if the mail server are blacklisted11:41
shandarSeveas, Okey. Thanks anyway! I'll try to fiddle around a bit more with it, but so far nothing has helped =/11:41
Seveasgood luck11:41
erickclaes can you give me those site, so that I will include it in my blacklist11:41
erickno claes, just want to have the list of those that your are familiar that includes on your blaclist11:42
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shandarNo luck... still running at 60 Hz...11:44
Yetr2sifl_, I'm not sure... I could only take a guess that if you have other USB devices, they could be hogging the bandwidth, preventing printing11:44
Yetr2I have USB printers on my cups server too, but they are the only USB devices on the system11:44
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sifl_Yetr2: i don't though, ps/2 keyboard and serial mouse(which itself was a challenge for me)11:45
erickseveas and claes thanks, just check the site11:45
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kill9anyone here from south africa?11:46
claeserick, I'll check my setup for the blacklist server I use.11:46
Yetr2try turning off the printer, unpluggging the USB cable, cancel the job, the turn the printer back on & reconect the cable, then try printing again11:46
Yetr2first through the linux server, then throught the windows client11:47
kill9where can i get a list of apt servers?11:47
Seveas!tell kill9 about sources11:48
claeserick, http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/howtouse.html11:48
pipounwhy do I have the headers for 2.6.10-5 and 2.6.10-5-386 at the same time installed???11:48
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kjbhi11:49
kjbhow can i get under ubuntu the right kernels to the right gcc?11:49
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kjbi have done an apt-get install build-essentiallinuxheaders'uname -r'11:50
kill9thnx11:50
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doogluskjb: what are you trying to do?11:50
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kjbdooglus, i try to get vm-ware runing11:50
shandaris there any other way to change resolution other than the gnome applet?11:50
kjbbut it always tell me, that my kernel is created with gcc 3.4.511:51
kjband my current gcc version is 4.0.211:51
pipounperhaps it's true11:51
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kjbYour kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use11:51
kjb"/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2"11:51
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doogluskjb: hoary?11:51
pipounkjb, find your 3.4.5 version and use it for vmware11:51
kjbpipoun, so i can install the gcc3.4.5 without problem?11:52
kjbapt-get install gcc3.4.5 ?11:52
pipounhas it been uniinstall11:52
sifl_Yetr2: ok, it's printing the linux test page..11:52
pipounwell no, I can overtake your previous instalation of 4.0.211:52
doogluskjb: apt-get install gcc-3.411:53
sifl_Yetr2: but did not print the windows test page11:54
sifl_Yetr2: it doesn't think that it finished the linux test page...11:54
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Yetr2sifl_, is the windows job showing in the que?11:55
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N6REJ*sigH* still can't upgrade distro.. .keep getting failure message11:55
larsrohdin hi, I've just installed GTA SA and I am able to play it, but I cannot change the advanced display settings, the game crashes... Can someone help me?11:55
larsrohdinwith cedega11:55
kjbi looked i have no old gcc11:55
propagandhiN6REJ: whats is the message11:55
kjbdooglus, but isnt it better to get the right (newer) kernel to the gcc4?11:55
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sifl_Yetr2: yes, it says pending: none but it's after the linux page that says printing: job-printing11:56
[LethAL] larsrohdin, I don't know about that, but I think it's just s changing video settings problem11:56
N6REJpropagandhi: thank god for the shell mail command or I couldn't tell ya......11:56
N6REJpropagandhi: dpkg; ../../main/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion 'dependtry <=4' failed.11:56
Yetr2hmm...11:56
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larsrohdin[LethAL] , changing in X?11:56
sifl_Yetr2: but it finished the linux page... i already threw it out11:56
propagandhiN6REJ: u dont use dpkg to upgrade though11:56
[LethAL] No in the game11:56
[LethAL] Although I haven't played SA with it11:56
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N6REJpropagandhi: cc, I did apt-get install dist-upgrade and it ran for a while and then threw that error out.11:57
larsrohdin[LethAL] , yeah but I cant even enter the advanced display settings, then the game crashes11:57
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N6REJpropagandhi: and now dpkg --configure -a won't run either11:57
Yetr2I would changing the log level in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to maximum, restarting cups, and see what kind of message I getting.11:57
sifl_Yetr2: whoa, my processor has not gone below 100% for a while now...11:57
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[LethAL] larsrohdin, oh... maybe you should try running it with WINE? Can be better at various programs...11:57
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propagandhiN6EJ: okay, you updated /etc/apt/sources.lst - then apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade right?11:58
Yetr2sifl_, `top`11:58
N6REJyep11:58
melvztechieguys, is there a mrtg package in ubuntu?11:58
N6REJlet me see if I can do it again.11:58
blendaI've forgotten my password to Gnome's keyring. Is there a way to reset it? I don't care if my saved passwords are lost.11:58
Yetr2what program is hoarding the CPU time?11:58
[LethAL] How do I setup ThunderBird to read my local mail?11:58
topyliN6REJ: does apt-get -f install work?11:58
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N6REJpropagandhi: ok, apt-get update worked.11:58
twibblerDoes anybody know of a good text editor for programming ..... mainly perl html etc .... I have tried most of the ones under synaptic ....11:58
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N6REJstandby11:59
N6REJno same error11:59
claesmelvztechie, yes    try: apt-cache search mrtg11:59
Yetr2twibbler, I like vi11:59
topylitwibbler: emacs maybe11:59
propagandhinano!!11:59
N6REJpico!11:59
N6REJlol11:59
topyli!start an editor war12:00
ubotunotepad is better than emacs12:00
ompaul!start editor war12:00
ubotuompaul: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:00
larsrohdinubotu, wtf?12:00
ubotularsrohdin: Bugger all, i dunno12:00
ompaul!start an editor war12:00
sifl_Yetr2: the weird thing is that my processes only add up to 6% cpu usage12:00
Shin_Goukime voted for vi12:00
Shin_Goukiit rocks12:00
larsrohdinemaccs is the shit=)12:00
twibblerYetr2: topyli: used both after a more graphical one ?.12:00
melvztechieclaes: there is, what am i gonna install first? or how will i install mrtg now?12:00
nitrofleaAnybody know why totem complains about the audio output being used by another application? I've got an Audigy LS12:00
Syrussemacs rocks.12:00
Yetr2with the proper setup, vi does syntax highlighting12:00
SyrussI also use vim though which is also good12:00
ompaulthe bot is gone sick12:00
Syrusseach has their place12:00
Syruss:p12:00
propagandhinano nano nano12:00
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SyrussROL!12:00
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N6REJpropagandhi:  now what?12:00
topyliN6REJ: try uninstalling the offending package (unless it's something like glibc :)12:01
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Syrussnano is properly lame12:01
Syruss:)12:01
N6REJtopyli: how? which one?12:01
Jedrickwhats the command in irc to echo on what os ur using like $os12:01
claesmelvztechie, sudo aptitude install mrtg       but I haven't used it myself12:01
damo21lol there is Ubuntu 5.10ReleaseCandidate? why not wait another few days haha12:01
[LethAL] Nano is cool...12:01
N6REJtopyli: should I start aptitude?12:01
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topyliN6REJ: which one is giving the error?12:01
topyliN6REJ: aptitude might be smarter than apt, yes12:01
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propagandhiN6REJ: in synaptic are there any broken packages at all12:01
N6REJtopyli: thats just it I don't know...12:01
Syrussanyway, anyone here use network-manager? I'm having problems with it's use of bind to do dns caching in that resolving works for a while, then just stops working for certain websites.12:01
melvztechieclaes: okey will try, just want to monitor my ethx bandwidth utilization, tanks12:01
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N6REJI don't know how to tell guys, I'm brand new and its a new hoary install12:01
sifl_Yetr2: wait, nm, cupsd is taking all my processing12:02
damo21propagandhi: it depends on which repositories you enable12:02
N6REJbreezy has a broken initrd file12:02
claesmelvztechie, glad I could help12:02
nitrofleaHas anyone got their Audigy LS stable in breezy yet? Totem and XMMS complain12:02
propagandhidamo12: ???12:02
Jedrickwhats the command in irc to echo on what os ur using like:  /echo $os12:02
Yetr2sifl_, `sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd restart`12:02
topyliN6REJ: yeah, the error message doesn't seem very helpful :(12:02
propagandhidamo21: ???12:02
Jedrickanyone?12:02
N6REJpropagandhi: whats synaptic?12:02
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[LethAL] Jedrick, uname -a12:02
SyrussJedrick, /exec -o uname -a12:03
propagandhiN6REJ: package manager12:03
[LethAL] Jedrick, linuxinfo12:03
damo21propagandhi: if you select strictly the ubuntu official repositories, then there shouldnt be any broken packages12:03
melvztechieclaes: it installed freely with no error;) thats cool!12:03
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Prokoave12:03
N6REJI have all the deb's uncommented in sources.list except cdrom12:03
melvztechieclaes: ill try to configure it now;)12:03
N6REJI just started aptitude, now what?12:04
propagandhidamo21: ok i see what your saying but its not just repos that create broken packages, you never know what packages people have tried to install12:04
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topyliN6REJ: just press g and see if it can sort things out12:04
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sifl_Yetr2: the command to restart cupsd is actually sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart12:04
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Yetr2...12:04
sifl_Yetr2: spent forever on that earlier12:04
sifl_Yetr2: but it worked12:04
N6REJhit g and screen is now green with lots of files showing.12:04
Yetr2sifl_, what about the windows que?12:05
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ProkoHi, I use a hoary ubuntu version, and I try to add some debian repository in my sources.list file, but I always get an error message talking about a public key signature. Where may I find the right debian repositories ?12:05
N6REJok, had to hit it again.. going now12:05
topyliN6REJ: good. press g again and it will tell you if something is broken12:05
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melvztechieERROR: Mrtg will most likely not work properly when the environment12:05
melvztechie       variable LANG is set to UTF-8. Please run mrtg in an environment12:05
melvztechie       where this is not the case. Try the following command to start:12:05
[LethAL] Proko, don't use debian reops12:05
[LethAL] repos*12:05
damo21propagandhi: im saying that if you only use the official repo and only use synaptic for installing new packages then there should be no problem12:05
melvztechieanybody has seen this error , configuring and starting mrtg?12:05
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N6REJtopyli: its downloading alot of stuff12:05
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propagandhidamo21: okay although it wasnt what i was saying12:06
kemikmelvztechie:  dont paste in here, use pastebin (url in topic)12:06
N6REJtopyli: says 25 minutes12:06
damo21:)12:06
Prokolol lethal12:06
melvztechieoh sorry12:06
melvztechie:D12:06
topyliN6REJ: good, it must be upgrading a bunch of packages. dpkg may still choke later of course :(12:06
N6REJtopyli: yeah, thats whats been happening.12:06
sifl_Yetr2: it dropped my processing % back down, but still no printing...12:06
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Proko[LethAL]  , I need those...12:07
[LethAL] Proko, If you can't get it from the Ubuntu repos, try to build the source and build that, download that deb and install it12:07
Proko:-/12:07
[LethAL] I can't type today :/12:07
N6REJtopyli:  at least postfix is SENDING mail LOL.. won't recieve it yet but it does send.  Well, it won't let me connect to it yet... lets put it that way.12:07
sifl_Yetr2: i really think it's my printer, i am able to print to my friends printer on a linux box and he lives a mile away12:08
N6REJtopyli: course the installer never asked for the domain name either :(12:08
Prokok [LethAL] 12:08
damo21does alien create proper ubuntu-safe packages?12:08
[LethAL] damo21, not really12:08
Yetr2sifl_, what distrobution is he using12:08
Prokothere is absolutely no way of adding other repos ?12:08
topylidamo21: depends on the phase of the moon and the power of your prayers12:08
damo21:D12:08
liran_when im configuring my router for WEP encryption security and put in a passphrase, it generates a hex key. which of those do i feed to the wireless netwrok laptop? (the passphrase or the hex key?)12:08
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[LethAL] Proko, there is, but like I said, unless you're on a deathwish...12:08
sifl_Yetr2: hoary on one box, the one with the printer and breezy on the other one12:09
propagandhidamo21: they often work though, and if they dont you can always remove them12:09
[LethAL] liran_, probably the hex key12:09
melvztechiejust want to know any HOW-TO for mrtg configuration in Ubuntu? tanks12:09
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[LethAL] melvztechie, man mrtg?12:09
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damo21i saw a couple on the ubuntu wikis for the "less legal" packages12:09
Yetr2sifl_, I would still try setting the logging facility to max and try to figure it out that way.12:09
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sifl_Yetr2: well, i'm not gonna give up on it just yet, and i still have to get sound working on this box, but i'm gonna head in for the night, thanks for all your help :)12:11
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dooglushow do you configure firefox to open popup windows in a new tab, rather than in a new window?12:11
[LethAL] dooglus, install tab mix or tab mix plus12:11
damo21I would like to become an advocate for ubuntu... ive already helped a few people install hoary at uni12:11
dooglus[12:11
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dooglus[LethAL] : is it possible to do without using extensions?12:12
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[LethAL] dooglus, I don't know, try about:config12:12
dooglus[LethAL] : ok, thanks.12:12
poyieei ned some help12:12
[LethAL] dooglus, I have no idea what to look for in there though ;)12:12
propagandhidooglus: edit -> preferences -> advanced12:12
poyiehow to dual parttion xp and ubuntu?12:12
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topylidamo21: so you are already doing what you want :)12:12
dooglus[LethAL] : I'm trying to work out exactly when http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/crash.htm crashes firefox, and when it doesn't12:12
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damo21yes :D how do you use the OEM setup method?12:13
poyiehow to dual parttion xp and ubuntu?12:13
damo21is there a wiki for that?12:13
Syrussanyway, anyone here use network-manager? I'm having problems with it's use of bind to do dns caching in that resolving works for a while, then just stops working for certain websites.12:13
doogluspropagandhi: which setting in advanced?12:13
[LethAL] dooglus, I click the link, if I click on the page the tab dies and if I click on the link I get another one12:13
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damo21how do u install to many machines at once12:13
propagandhidooglus: the tabbed browsing setting12:14
doogluspropagandhi: which one?12:14
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damo21i was thinking of converting a whole computer lab to ubuntu12:14
propagandhidooglus: 'a new tab in the most recent window'12:14
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dodgyvilleHello12:14
doogluspropagandhi: that's for links from other apps, not popups from within firefox12:15
propagandhiok, i misread the popups bit sorry12:15
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dodgyvilleifup eth0 gives me "no dhcpoffers received" with my adsl modem plugged in.12:15
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[LethAL] dodgyville, Your ADSL modem won't have a dhcp server...12:16
Kamping_Kaiserhave people had problems with postfix during dist-upgrades from hoary-> breezy?12:16
Kamping_Kaiserhi [LethAL]  :)12:16
damo21Why arent schools using edubuntu? its free!12:16
[LethAL] Hey KK12:16
Syrussdamo21, fear.12:16
Kamping_Kaiser:)12:16
dodgyville[LethAL]  I can plug the modem into an ibook2 running breezy, and it works, but on my PC running breezy it doesn't.12:16
Syrussfear of the unknown12:16
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[LethAL] dodgyville, Oh, is it an ethernet modem?12:16
ProkoAFKbye12:16
Syrussit's up to linux users to spread the word and show people first hand that linux is good12:16
Syrussdon't expect it to just happen.12:17
Kamping_KaiserSyruss: and (at least in aust) the government is in bed with MS12:17
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damo21Come! Let us show them12:17
dodgyville[LethAL]  Yes.12:17
Syrussyer many governments are corrupted with microsoft's money12:17
Syrusssome aren't though12:17
Syrussso don't lose hope12:17
Syruss:p12:17
[LethAL] dodgyville, Try and find better drivers for your network card. That's all I can say, sorry12:17
[LethAL] My school's web server now runs Moodle on SuSE iirc12:18
topylidamo21: i don't think the oem install method is ready12:18
Kamping_Kaiseryeh, australias gov spends 2.8mil (bil?) P/A on licences12:18
[LethAL] Still 6 other W2k3 servers... :-(12:18
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damo21Oh ok... Ubuntu should focus on the OEM setup method12:18
damo21make it as easy to install as windows12:18
damo21:D12:18
Kamping_Kaiser[LethAL] : when the 6 k2 servers keep dying and the suse box doesnt, things will change ;)12:18
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Kamping_Kaiserwtf damo21? doze easy to install? adn breezy has an oem mode now :O12:19
damo21Does it? Cool12:19
[LethAL] Kamping_Kaiser, 2k3... not k2... and for some reason they all need Dual Xeons and 1GB RAM... :O12:19
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Kamping_Kaiser[LethAL] : 'some reason' :D, but ok, 2k3 is better then 2k server12:20
Kamping_Kaiserbut i maintain 2k is better tehn xp :D12:20
damo21Where can i find information about the oem method for ubuntu?12:20
kemik!terminal12:20
ubotuterminal is, like, in gnome, to get to a terminal, you use the gnome menu, that is by default on the top of the screen. Hit Applications>System Tools>Terminal.12:20
topylidamo21: install one and run dpkg --get-selections > /floppy/packages.lst . then install minimal installs on other boxen and run dpkg --get-selections < /floppy/packages.lst :)12:20
damo21Ohhh!12:20
topyliyou get identical installations12:20
damo21awesome!12:20
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damo21Now thats the sort of code that should be posted on a wiki12:21
damo21:)12:21
topylidamo21: that's a good way of saving your package selection for disaster recovery. when you reinstall, just do dkpg --get-selections and restore /etc from backups :)12:21
damo21yeah12:21
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BockBilbo!lirc12:22
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, BockBilbo12:22
damo21Ohhh and then ubuntu automatically configures itself for each computers hardware12:23
[LethAL] ubotu, no, terminal is in Gnome, to get to a terminal, open the Applications menu from the top panel and You will find a terminal item in Accessories (Breezy) or in System Tools (Hoary). If you want to be able to right-click on the desktop or a folder to open the terminal, install nautilus-open-terminal (sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal)12:23
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ubotuokay, [LethAL] 12:23
damo21with identical packages!12:23
topylidamo21: on a good day, yes .)12:23
dmabowenI need help!  I just installed Ubuntu (1st time with Linux) and I created a username at install.  I need to log in as Root..  what is the default password for root?12:23
BockBilbo!lirc12:23
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ubotusomebody said lirc was at http://www.lirc.com12:23
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epic_dmabowen,  you do not log in as root12:23
Blejdfistdmabowen: sudo -s and type your own password12:23
nitrofleais the w32codecs package available through the ubuntu repositories? or where can I get 'em?12:23
dmabowenThanks!12:23
[LethAL] !tell dmabowen about rootsudo12:23
[LethAL] dmabowen, It's best not to have a root pwd12:24
[LethAL] See what ubotu told you12:24
dmabowenW/o a root pwd how do I login?12:24
[LethAL] With your standard login name12:24
epic_log in as the user you created during install12:24
BockBilbocan you guys tell me of any good remote control for linux?12:24
Kamping_Kaiseryou dont log in as root12:24
[LethAL] And password12:24
Kamping_Kaiseryou log in as you12:24
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epic_you will be prompted for your password when root privs are needed, and in a terminal use sudo 'command'12:25
[LethAL] epic_, ubotu has told him about that ;)12:25
dmabowenThe first account has Root privs?12:25
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[LethAL] dmabowen, no12:25
intelikeyof course all ^ that assumes a standard install12:25
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epic_[LethAL] ,    that's doesn't mean it was understood12:26
[LethAL] dmabowen, the first account can use gksudo, gnome-sudo and sudo with their own pwds12:26
dodgyvilleWhen I plug an ADSL modem in my ethernet card, should it register somewhere on the system? (ie dmesg)?12:26
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dmabowenThanks guys!12:26
[LethAL] dmabowen, unless you did expert install...12:26
pefhello12:26
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=== [LethAL] sighs
epic_is ubotu supybot?12:26
[LethAL] no12:26
[LethAL] blootbot12:26
epic_k, ta.12:26
[LethAL] i.e. modded infobot12:27
[LethAL] In the repos though ;)12:27
epic_I can't remember how I got root-tail working with gnome/nautilus in the past12:27
epic_it has been done though12:27
johnsie2hi.... Does anyone know how I can add something to the "system path"?12:27
damo21topyli: would that method work if u also include some non-standard packages? id have to backup the repository file too.. :D12:28
topyliyes, you need an identical sources.list of course12:28
epic_johnsie2,   edit your .bash_profile12:28
Ngif you can't get root-tail going there are log tailing components for gdesklets, if you can stand to run that much python ;)12:28
johnsie2how?12:28
damo21awesome12:28
epic_johnsie2,   use a tect editor12:29
epic_the file is in your home dir12:29
epic_*text12:29
intelikeyjohnsie2 put it in /usr/local/bin    or add the location it is in to your path.12:29
topylidamo21: the problems begin when you have built some packages of your own. then you'd need a local apt repository (which is easy enough to make)12:29
niklsdo someone use a canon IP1500 printer on ubuntu?12:30
intelikeyputting things in the system standard path makes all users able to access them without hassel.12:30
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hansi_xpjoin #enlightenment12:30
epic_if that's what you want, yes.12:30
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damo21yeah im thinking id want to make a smaller specialised set of packages just for schools etc and a smaller, simpler menu system12:31
damo21i'll play with edubuntu perhaps12:31
topylisounds like a plan12:31
dooglusepic_: you use root-tail?  you're the first person i've heard talk about it :)12:31
damo21sounds like easy scripting to make wide-installs easy :D12:32
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epic_I did use it12:33
topylidamo21: yeah, you can have a floppy with a sources.list, the package list and a menu structure to put in /usr/share. perhaps default user settings for /etc/skeleton. plus the script that handles everything12:33
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niXnutzis there anybody who knows how to install an usb wlan stick on ubuntu?12:34
dooglusepic_: I used to use it.  I wrote quite a lot of it, too12:34
damo21yeah :D12:34
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niklsI downloaded drivers for 'pixma IP1500' printer on Canon Support site, but the drivers were '.rpm' type, I converted them with 'alien' but 4 .rpm files gave me only 3 .deb files, then after installing those my printer still don't work.12:34
damo21topyli: you should write a wiki for this, help schools set-up lots of computers12:35
damo21:D12:35
epic_dooglus = Mike Baker?12:35
topylidamo21: i could write something for the wiki. or the HOWTO section of the forums12:35
damo21would be cool12:36
dooglusepic_: no, Chris Moore.  I made most of the recent changes12:36
damo21im not very familiar with /etc/skeleton12:36
abhaykswaiting for breezy release12:36
[LethAL] 6 days :D12:36
Hobbseeabhayks: why not just install it now?12:36
Hobbseeit's stable enough12:37
johnsie2ok where is the .bash_profile?12:37
Hobbseegrab a daily cd of it, and upgrade with that12:37
Hobbseeor dist upgrade if you're feeling risky12:37
intelikeyjohnsie2 look in your home dir12:38
Tomcat_nikls: I doubt anybody can help with such a specific problem. Try finding information on how other people installed the driver on non-RPM distros. Or ask the vendor to supply a driver for Debian-based distros.12:38
damo21like, how u create proper skeleton settings for say, different groups of students12:38
topylidamo21: hm. i don't seem to have one. i'm remembering another distro i guess. on redhat-like systems, it's a directory with default settings that are copied to new users' home directories, like bashrc and such12:38
abhayksHobbsee, I have to re-format my existing hoary upgraded system, so want to do a clean install once and for all ( 6 months I mean)12:38
damo21this is supported in ubuntu?12:38
Hobbseeabhayks: is your /home on a separate partition?12:38
Kamping_Kaiser /etc/skel ? not sure if you can customise it for different groups theough12:38
damo21yeah12:39
topylidamo21: i don't know really, i've never used it on any system :)12:39
intelikeyif you are trying to make a system wide path change though it will have to be in /etc/profile but be careful there it is system wide. johnsie212:39
niklsTomcat_: thanks anyway12:39
topyliKamping_Kaiser: ah, skel not skeleton12:39
epic_johnsie2, open your home die with your file browser  (menu, placews, home) and hit Ctrl +H to display hidden files/folders12:39
epic_*dir12:39
epic_hmm I need a bigger keyboard or less fat fingers  :/12:40
Kamping_Kaisertopyli: yeh, thats it12:40
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Kamping_Kaiser*just checked*12:40
damo21yep12:40
damo21thanks for help i will look in man pages12:40
damo21:D12:40
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sorush20is there a parental control program for ubuntu..12:41
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Hobbseesorush20: what are you looking to do?12:41
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sorush20Hobbsee: just to prevent porn on the computer firefox12:42
johnsie2ok I'm in the .bash_profile... whaty do i change?12:42
intelikeyjohnsie2 add a line at the end "export PATH="$PATH:<your added path>"12:43
epic_johnsie2, apend the extra dir after the }  in    PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"    put a : between them12:43
Hobbseesorush20: i guess you'd look at some filter software, probably check google12:43
intelikeywhere <your added path> is the fully qualified path12:43
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ubuntulover12:44
ubuntulover12:44
topyliwow, that's a lot of typos12:44
deFrysk12:44
intelikeyepic_ why not use export ?12:44
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[LethAL] ubotu, forget spam12:44
ubotui forgot spam, [LethAL] 12:44
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epic_no reason intelikey, was just what I thought of first12:45
ubuntulover12:45
epic_and it builds on the current .bash_profile style12:45
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epic_ubuntulover,   #ubuntu-TW12:45
johnsie2so like.... PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}":/home/john/RealPlayer1012:46
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intelikeywith export12:46
epic_do not forget to enclose it in "'s12:46
CryptidWhich of these emulators are better Qemu,VMware,crossoffice?12:46
johnsie2export PATH="$PATH:/home/john/RealPlayer10"12:46
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intelikeyyep12:47
Alex_BOHELLO!how can i set a program's autostart in ubuntu hoary?12:47
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[LethAL] Cryptid, I've only used VMware, but Wine and Cedga are good non-emulators12:47
[LethAL] Cedega*12:47
enodevalex_do: save your session when logging off12:47
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epic_johnsie2,   or just put Realplayer in your /home/john/bin  dir12:47
Nginstalling RealPlayer systemwide is far easier than into a homedirectory. it's also neater12:48
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enodevalex: the programs that run will be run the next time you log in12:48
deFryskmessy realplayer :D12:48
intelikeyjohnsie2 to test it open a terminal and type "echo $PATH"12:48
epic_not that anything works with rp anyway12:48
dooglusepic_: I found one way to get root-tail to work with gnome:  run the configuration editor and uncheck apps/nautilus/preferences/show desktop.  you'll lose your desktop icons and desktop right-click functionality, but you'll gain root-tail :)12:48
Ngepic_: if you install 10 properly it works fine12:48
deFryskrp works fine here12:48
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epic_dooglus,   yeah, I heard that before12:48
wertoyo * ^__^12:49
Ngthe plugin is actually useful these days :)12:49
bayramwer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier12:49
epic_deFrysk,   I can only find an older version of RP, 8>?12:49
epic_deFrysk,   I can only find an older version of RP, 8.?12:49
Cryptid[LethAL] , i installed VMware but durin the installation i did some thing wrong and i dont know how to uninstall it & if i try to reinstall VMware it gives me a error saying that "a previous installation has been detected:installation will exit now" what do i do to get rid of this error?12:49
barongasIs there any way to make consistent gamma changes? Many programs override my fglrx_xgamma adjustments (my monitor is VERY dark)?12:49
wertoi'm in trouble------- __12:49
epic_Ng  more info please12:49
dooglusepic_: you keep your desktop wallpaper, too.  I think I'll leave it like that - I never use desktop icons anyway12:49
wertosomeone can help me?12:49
deFryskepic_, I installed the rpm after using alien12:49
intelikeyyeah epic_ i would have put it in /usr/local/bin to begin with....12:49
Alex_BOenodev: ah okey.that's very comfortable.but if I would like to set it manually?is there a configuration file?12:49
johnsie2it didnt come up when i used echo... do i need to reboot?12:49
epic_deFrysk,   what RPM?12:49
deFryskepic_, I symlinked realplay to /usr/bin12:49
epic_johnsie2,   just type bash12:50
epic_then try12:50
enodevalex: its in system->settings->session12:50
N6REJtopyli: nope, it keeps crashing on update :(  I told it NOT to use the universe packages in sources.list this time.12:50
Ngepic_: uninstall the rp8 package if you have it, then go to http://www.real.com/freeplayer/?rppr=hc.org to get the Linux version of RP1012:50
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deFryskand copied the plugin iof the mozillafolder in realplayerfolder to the pluginfolder of firefox, done12:50
epic_Ng,   thanks, I looked around that site for ages12:50
clark070guys12:50
clark070got a question here12:50
epic_it pissed me off no end12:50
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Ngepic_: yeah, it's a bitch to find. I always follow the link from helixcommunity.org :)12:50
clark070can't boot on the cd that i burnd12:50
wertoi was trying use fglrx ati driver with xorg, but everything is mad, i've to use my ati radeon xpress 200m with xorg vesa driver.... what should i do????? ___12:50
epic_appreciated12:50
topyliN6REJ: sounds more difficult than my brain can handle :(12:50
clark070how can i make it bootable12:51
Ngepic_: basically, when you install it, use sudo and tell it to install systemwide12:51
Alex_BOenodev: is there a file to set?i love the shell :-)12:51
epic_Ng  plan to12:51
bayramich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier12:51
bayramepic_ deFrysk,   I can only find an older version of RP, 8>?12:51
bayramepic_ deFrysk,   I can only find an older version of RP, 8.?12:51
bayramCryptid [LethAL] , i installed VMware but du12:51
MaTaKshelp pls. i have error upgrading hoag to breezy12:51
MaTaKsFetched 3271kB in 1m35s (34.3kB/s)12:51
MaTaKsFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch12:51
MaTaKsReading package lists... Done12:51
MaTaKsE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.12:51
johnsie2dang it didnt come up on the echo12:51
MaTaKswhy is that12:51
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Ngepic_: it will put symlinks in /usr/bin/ and then "realplay" will be in your path :)12:51
epic_not that anyone else uses this puter anyway  :)12:51
N6REJtopyli: I hear ya... It's giving me a migrain.  I hope they fix the bug in the breezy installer FAST12:51
deFryskbayram, I did not use the repo12:51
[LethAL] ubotu, no, themes istry installing gnome-art (sudo apt-get install gnome-art) and running it from System -> Preferences -> Art Manager (On Breezy). It downloads and installs themes from art.gnome.org. Some sites with various themes from Gnome include: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/12:51
[LethAL] 57/ - http://www.guistyles.com12:51
ubotu[LethAL] : I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about12:51
[LethAL] grr12:51
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enodevalex: there are several, ie .xsession12:51
niklsubuntulover: 12:51
clark070i downloaded the one from ubuntu.com12:51
bayram wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier12:51
clark070put it to cd12:51
bayram wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier12:51
clark070but it won't boot12:51
bayram wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier12:51
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N6REJtopyli: is there a way to tell if they have fixed it?12:52
clark070what's the problem with it12:52
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Alex_BOenodev: okey.thank you so much man12:52
wertoHEI!!!12:52
enodevno problem alex12:52
thoreauputicbayram: #ubuntu-de12:52
intelikey?12:52
bayramya12:52
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irvinwhere can i get gst-register? apt-cache search showed none12:52
bayram wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier12:52
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topyliN6REJ: i just installed breezy for a colleague from the colony 4 cd with no problem at all12:52
[LethAL] !de12:52
deFryskepic_, http://www.real.com/player/?src=realplayer12:52
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe12:52
clark070topyli: how can i make a bootable ubuntu cd12:52
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epic_deFrysk,   got it, thanks  :)12:52
thoreauputicbayram: one more repeat and you are out12:52
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clark070thoreauputic: pls help12:53
topyliclark070: just burn the iso you find on ubuntu.com and it's bootable12:53
N6REJtopyli: whats the colony 4 cd?12:53
clark070the one that i burnd is not a bootable cd12:53
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niklsubuntulover: 12:53
clark070topyli: it won't12:53
MaTaKshelp pls. i have error upgrading hoag to breezy12:53
MaTaKsFetched 3271kB in 1m35s (34.3kB/s)12:53
clark070topyli: that's my problem12:53
MaTaKsFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch12:53
MaTaKsE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.12:53
twibblerHere is another ? for a Friday .... Java-jar is it available on ubuntu... if so is it safe to install ?...12:53
clark070it's a zip file that i downloaded, then i unzip it and burn it12:54
deFryskMaTaKs, apdate and try again12:54
clark070but won't boot at all12:54
deFryskupdate*12:54
topyliN6REJ: from cdimage.ubuntu.com, the beta versions come in "colonies". we're at "colony 4" now12:54
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N6REJclark070: you DON"T unzip it!!! you tell your software to burn a "iso" or "Image"12:54
MaTaKsoh man it takes like 4 hours to upgrade12:54
topyliclark070: the cd images are not zips but isos12:54
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ColonelKernelbreezy is more bleeding edge than gentoo package-wise12:55
ColonelKernelgentoo aint usin gnome 2.1212:55
N6REJtopyli: 1007?12:55
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bayram wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier12:55
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deFryskColonelKernel, yes they do, its just still masked12:55
ColonelKernelHmm12:55
clark070oh my god12:56
ColonelKernelstill masked means not stable12:56
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irvinmy sound card is detected as VIA 8235, this was working on hoary but not in breezy with current updates. the error requires running gst-register but i can't find it...12:56
deFryskColonelKernel, breezy is not stable yet either ;)12:56
epic_Anyone here use Ubuntu on a server?12:56
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ColonelKernelno but on oct 13 it will be12:56
N6REJbayram: miene Duestche ich nich gut!! Duestche ich nicht gut here... sprechen eine americana12:56
epic_English thankyou  :P12:56
thoreauputicbayram: you were warned - please join #ubuntu-de12:56
N6REJthats what I said epic12:56
deFryskColonelKernel, so ?12:56
clark070N6REJ: then why my winrar still unzip it12:57
N6REJhe want to know how to install skype lol12:57
N6REJclark070: beats me but it shouldn't touch it!12:57
ColonelKerneldeFrysk, just noting thats the most up-to-date gnome on a distro ive seen12:57
epic_Sorry, I thought you said americn12:57
topyliN6REJ: that's the daily build. the "colony" releases may be more stable12:57
N6REJclark070: what burning software do you use?12:57
Kamping_Kaiserusing rpm by the look12:57
[LethAL] clark070, winrar can extract isos. use a CD burning software12:57
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[LethAL] clark070, CDBurnerXP is a good'un12:57
deFryskColonelKernel, frugalware has gnome2.12 on stable12:57
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epic_clark070,   ope n it with nero if you have it12:57
ColonelKernelnever heard of frugalware12:58
clark070topyli: nero 612:58
N6REJepic_: I did, If I'm remembering right its the german word for english LOL12:58
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N6REJor at least american.12:58
epic_mm anglice  I think12:58
topyliclark070: winzip thinks it's being helpful. sometimes you want to look inside the iso to see what's on the cd12:58
deFryskColonelKernel, then hush ;)12:58
[LethAL] american != english != british12:58
Kamping_KaiserN6REJ: i doubt it is tbh, but you never know12:58
[LethAL] :P12:58
topyliclark070: so tell nero to burn it as an image. otherwise you'll end up with a cd with an iso file inside it12:58
clark070topyli: oh my goodness12:58
Kamping_Kaiser[LethAL] : yeh :D12:58
N6REJI'm still learning.. LOL12:59
N6REJI think he got the message though.12:59
ColonelKernelfrugalware says stable release isnt out yet12:59
AlphaFactionhey all, what do you gyes think is the best program for sorting out the id3 tags of a huge mp3 collection? cowbell seems great but it can only do an album at a time12:59
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clark070topyli: i wasted a good cd there12:59
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N6REJtopyli:  where do you see colony?12:59
topyliclark070: we always need coasters, right? i have a windows server 2003 cd as a coaster right here :)12:59
Kamping_Kaiser[LethAL] : N6REJ http://babelfish.altavista.com/ . english =englisch01:00
N6REJtopyli:  lol :P01:00
[LethAL] I have a Fedora Core 4 CD 3 Coffee mat :P01:00
Kamping_Kaiserlol01:00
N6REJKamping_Kaiser: :P01:00
aftertaflol01:00
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topyliN6REJ: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-4/01:00
niklswhat drivers provided with ubuntu can I use for a Canon pixma IP1500 printer?01:00
clark070topyli: so when i open nero01:00
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clark070topyli: i'll go to "Disc Image or Save Project"01:00
[LethAL] clark070, It's referred to 'Burn Image or saved project' in nero express01:00
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clark070ok01:00
clark070got it01:00
[LethAL] clark070, yes, you'll need to chnge the filetype I think01:01
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[LethAL] change*01:01
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HobbseeN6REJ: why not just get one of the daily releases, also on that page?  it'd be more upto date01:01
topyliclark070: i have never seen nero but something like "burn image" should be somewhere there01:01
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clark070topyli: i nedd to spend another 3 hours to download the file01:01
N6REJHobbsee: good idea!01:01
Hobbseeclark070: nero indeed burns image files01:01
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fishhi. how can i get gedit to not be opened twice, but rather to have new documents automatically open as a new tab within the same program/window? (Just like a web browser)? I'm talking about the time when i double click a file in the GUI.01:01
HobbseeN6REJ: :P did the same thing yesterday with kubuntu01:01
[LethAL] I wish my burner worked :(01:01
topyliclark070: you have broken the iso?01:02
clark070topyli: after using winrar, i permanently deleted it from my hard drive01:02
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[LethAL] :D01:02
clark070topyli: i tot, it was a zip file 'cause it inherits the icon of winrar01:02
ColonelKernelwell when gentoo goes to 2.12 ill try it out, cant wait to try stable breezy tho01:02
[LethAL] Yeah, I hate that 'feature'01:02
clark070[LethAL] : why.? ;-)01:02
[LethAL] Because you deleted the ISO01:02
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epic_oh no01:03
thoreauputicclark070: any program that thinks an iso is a zip file is braindead01:03
N6REJlol, you can change that clark, just un associate that , or go into nero and tell it to reassociate its files.01:03
N6REJthoreauputic: here here!01:03
[LethAL] thoreauputic, WinRAR reads ISO files fine...01:03
epic_ye  right click it and 'open with other application'   choose nero01:03
[LethAL] thoreauputic, but it is braindead01:03
clark070yeah it reads01:03
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N6REJepic_: shift right click :D01:03
clark070but i did is i unzip it01:03
clark070knowing that it'll be fine when i burn it01:03
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N6REJclark070: OOOPPS... redownload it :D01:03
Hobbseelol...it's not supposed to be unzipped...01:03
[LethAL] ubotu, forget dude01:03
epic_N6REJ,    nice  :P01:04
ubotui forgot dude, [LethAL] 01:04
thoreauputic[LethAL] : it leads people into the problem clark070 has01:04
topylithoreauputic: file-roller will do the same, but at least gnome doesn't change the icon01:04
clark070so you where saying guys that the cd i have now is TOTALLY USELESS01:04
epic_Anyone here use Ubuntu in a sesrver environemnt?01:04
ColonelKernelthoreauputic, the program doesnt - he just didnt pay attention to the association settings when he installed winrar01:04
[LethAL] thoreauputic, it does. IZArc can convert them though, which is nice01:04
thoreauputictopyli: nothing wrong with reading the iso01:04
N6REJclark070: yep!01:04
irvin!w23codecs01:04
ubotuNot a clue, irvin01:04
N6REJclark070: though it makes one HELL of a frisbee01:04
topylithoreauputic: oh no. sometimes you want to look inside01:04
fishHello ALL: how can i get gedit to open documents in a new tab, and not a totally new program/window, a la a browser?01:04
[LethAL] I want a 23 bit CPU!01:04
neotrophyAsked this in #kubuntu, and was sumarily ignored... Anyone know how to turn off drop shadows for a particular window.  I can see how to do transparency, but not shadows (kde 3.4)?01:04
[LethAL] :D01:04
thoreauputictopyli: exactly01:04
N6REJ23bit?01:04
clark070he he he01:05
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clark070i'll just give it then to my daugther01:05
clark070and let her play with it01:05
Hobbseelol...she'll like that01:05
thoreauputictopyli: but an ISO is an ISO and should be left as such unless you wish otherwise01:05
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[LethAL] thoreauputic, when is an ISO not an ISO...01:05
[LethAL] ?*01:05
epic_too many applications are association thieves01:05
clark070btw, what's more faster, direct download or torrent01:05
[LethAL] Torrent usually01:05
thoreauputic[LethAL] : when it is misinterpreted :)01:06
N6REJmore faster?01:06
N6REJlol01:06
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N6REJ:P01:06
[LethAL] LOL01:06
Hobbseelol of course01:06
irvini need the link for w32codecs please01:06
irvin!w32codecs01:06
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)01:06
Hobbseeshould have done yesterday's download from a torrent01:06
samu2Why does firefox keep crashing for me?01:06
Kamping_Kaiserthis look familar to anyone? http://pastebin.com/38605501:06
Kamping_Kaiser:(01:06
Hobbseesamu2: run it in safe mode yet?01:06
N6REJI thought bit torrents were slower?01:06
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samu2Hobbsee, nope. Didn't realize it had a safe mode.01:07
Hobbseeirvin: http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ and download the deb from there01:07
epic_depends01:07
Hobbseethat's easier01:07
epic_I get good speed on both for ubuntu01:07
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Hobbseesamu2: it does, and that will tell you if it's a problem with one of the extensions01:07
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epic_torrents get up to 400k, direct about 20001:07
fishwhere do i go to see the current state of a reported bug in ubuntu?01:07
N6REJfor some reason i'm crawling tonight, only 45kb01:07
[LethAL] N6REJ, linux torrents are allways fast01:07
[LethAL] ;)01:07
chrizelhi01:07
N6REJso how do you dl in torrent mode?01:07
[LethAL] ubotu, forget gay01:07
ubotu[LethAL] : i forgot gay01:08
ubuntulover01:08
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epic_N6REJ, grab the torrent01:08
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Hobbseesamu2: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode01:08
aftertafN6REJ:  hows it keeping, the machine?01:08
clark070more faster to download i mean01:08
[LethAL] more faster? lol01:08
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clark070then what's the term for that01:09
N6REJaftertaf: wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllll........... lets just say we're RE RE RE RE RE downloading the updates01:09
thoreauputiccan anyone help ubuntulover find a channel for his/her language?01:09
chrizelIs the breezy bootsplash available on ppc? I don't get it here...01:09
rob^!ca01:09
uboturob^: Wish i knew01:09
rob^grr01:09
intelikeymore faster is more gooder01:09
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clark070ok01:09
clark070direct or torrent01:09
epic_I think it might be #ununtu-TW or ubuntu-zh01:09
[LethAL] Torrent!01:09
epic_torrent!01:09
aftertafN6REJ:  why's that?01:09
clark070ok01:09
clark070i'll do that tom01:09
epic_I think it might be #ubuntu-TW or ubuntu-zh01:09
fishhello all: where do i go to report bugs???01:09
aftertaffish /topic01:09
[LethAL] !bugzilla01:09
clark070i only have a dial up here at home01:09
ubotuI heard bugzilla is at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com01:09
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clark070and dsl at school01:10
clark070:-)01:10
N6REJaftertaf: same same.. keeps giving me the same dumb error.01:10
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[LethAL] clark070, shipit01:10
Hobbseeclarck070: definetly worht doing it at school then :P01:10
aftertaffish:  sorry, no  longer in topic :/01:10
Hobbseeclark070: definetly worht doing it at school then :P01:10
clark070yeah01:10
baskakdear friends, i would like to ask for help regarding partitioning for ubuntu i just bumped onto01:10
aftertafN6REJ:  dpkg error? what is it exactly, and with which package?01:10
baskakI tried to "save up" space for Ubuntu using built-in partitioning utility. (I have a laptop with 40GB hdd, a ca. 6 GB WinXP partition and 33GB "everything else" partition.) I have resized the second partition (labelled as "d:") and put, using automation, two Linux partitions. The Ubuntu utility reported that it cannot properly set up the Linux partitions, though (I didn't write down the announcement). So I undid the change, and Ubuntu partitionin01:10
clark070does ubuntu use FAT32 on its file system01:11
[LethAL] ubotu, forget who owns you01:11
ubotu[LethAL] : i forgot who owns you01:11
aftertafclark070:  nope01:11
thoreauputicclark070: no01:11
[LethAL] clark070, no, bouut it can read and write from it01:11
[LethAL] but*01:11
clark070i see01:11
N6REJaftertaf: thats the part we've never been able to figure out yet.... the only error I get is that dpkg failed.01:11
N6REJaftertaf: I'm trying it with aptitude now.01:11
clark070can it be installed on the same partition where my windows resides01:11
aftertafpaste me PM the exact message.....01:11
epic_no01:11
aftertafN6REJ:  or try synaptic.01:11
fishto all: I'm looking at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6829#c3, I want to get the described upload. How do i get it?01:12
clark070epic_ : does that answer my question01:12
epic_sorry, yes clark07001:12
N6REJaftertaf: if this fails again I'll ask you about synaptic01:12
aftertafok01:12
epic_they can not be on the same partition01:12
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clark070but can it be uninstalled01:12
epic_uninstalled from?01:13
clark070from my pc01:13
epic_you mean if you install it on anotyher partition?01:13
baskakI feel I put too much trust into the Ubuntu tool and its intuitivity. Please help!01:13
thoreauputicclark070: you need free space for an Ubuntu partition01:13
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dooglusepic_: I just made a version of root-tail which works with the nautilus desktop.  interested?01:13
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epic_dooglus,   sure am!01:13
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dooglusepic_: source or binary?01:13
epic_source please01:13
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dooglusepic_: I 'borrowed' the code from xpenguins01:13
clark070thoreauputic: then in order for me to remove it, i have to format the partition where i installed ubuntu01:13
epic_my ma told me never accept binary off strangers01:14
dooglusepic_: get toon_root.c from the xpenguins source package01:14
aftertaffish:  gedit (2.9.6-0ubuntu2)01:14
aftertafwhat version do you have installed?01:14
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thoreauputicclark070: yes, but it isn't usually a problem since windows formats anything it can't understand anyway :)01:14
topylidooglus: does xpenguins work well with nautilus these days? without breaking the desktop icons?01:14
thoreauputicclark070: but you can wipe the partition if you wish, sure01:15
aftertaffish:  its not an file you can download from bz, its an update in the repos.01:15
dooglustopyli: I don't know.01:15
aftertafthoreauputic:  this disk is not formatted, do you want to format it now?01:15
N6REJhmmmmmmmmmmmmm its not starting the torrent01:15
aftertafthoreauputic:  error please insert disk01:15
thoreauputictopyli: it redraws the icons I think01:15
dooglustopyli: I only used the code which finds the root window to draw on01:15
aftertafN6REJ:  give it time.01:15
clark070thoreauputic: will i be having a menu of what OS i want to load01:15
N6REJk01:15
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Hobbseeclark070: grub, i would think so01:16
thoreauputicclark070: yes, grub bootloader does all that for you01:16
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topylithoreauputic: i'd like them to gracefully fly through the icons, or to regard them as objects/obstacles01:16
clark070i see01:16
clark070thoreauputic: you're using ubuntu right now01:16
thoreauputictopyli: afaics the penguins still destroy the icons - but they return :)01:17
thoreauputicclark070: yup01:17
thoreauputicclark070: so are most people here :)01:17
dooglusepic_: I made a patch for root-tail.c here: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/root-tail.patch01:17
epic_danke01:17
fishaftertaf: i have version 2.10.2, and the suggested file is 2.9.x. how do i fix things with my version? I want gedit to always open double-clicked files in one and the same window.01:17
clark070thoreauputic: is it true that it's more popular than lindows01:18
thoreauputicdooglus: the originators might be interested in your patch :)01:18
N6REJ<------ just figured out what is hogging his network, 3 simultaneous large downloads LOL.... the server running its updates, the torrent, and the daily via firefox LOL01:18
N6REJOOPS01:18
topylithoreauputic: yes, i'm testing right now and they do make holes in my prescious folders. not permanent luckily :)01:18
thoreauputicclark070: I have no idea :)01:18
clark070thoreauputic: linxspire rather01:18
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mmorphhi01:18
mmorphdoes the breezy preview cd for amd64 recognize my ALi SATA?01:19
Hobbseegreetings01:19
thoreauputicclark070: it's very hard to put numbers on linux distributions - they are freely redistributable01:19
N6REJnanu nanu01:19
jmghaha01:19
dooglusthoreauputic:, epic_: it doesn't work very well...  root-tail draws ok now, but it doesn't seem to get expose events, so it doesn't re-draw reliably when you close windows01:19
jmgxorg is such a hack01:19
pschulz01Using breezy on a laptop, and I am having a problem with the network 'location' settings. For some reason the DNS servers are not getting saved/set correctly.01:19
clark070thoreauputic: you are familiar with Cedega01:19
clark070N6REJ: do you know that "nanu"01:19
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thoreauputicclark070: no, I know nothing about cedega or wine etc - I use Ubuntu all the time and no windows programs01:20
pschulz01I have two separate locations, one is DHCP.. I am currently connected at the other 'location' (home).01:20
clark070cedega is a 3rd party software for linux system01:21
Hobbsee!cedega01:21
ubotuhelp for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page01:21
pschulz01The DNS servers for the DHCP location (work) keep getting set instead.01:21
clark070it's like a bridge so that you can play window base game on linux system01:21
aftertaffish:  refile a bug then... saying you have a higher version and the same problem. they'll contact you.01:21
N6REJpschulz01: check your "/etc/resolv.conf"01:21
thoreauputicclark070: we know what it is :)01:22
Shin_Goukihi i downloaded the OO 2 RC1 tar.gz file, i unpacked them now i have a folder with lots of rpm files how do i install OO 2 RC1 now..?01:22
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clark070thoreauputic: ooppss, sorry01:22
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clark070thoreauputic: tot ur not familiar with it01:22
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aftertafShin_Gouki:  look in the forler for a file called INSTALL or README01:22
thoreauputicclark070: I don't need it ;-)01:22
[LethAL] damn, got there first :(01:22
topyliShin_Gouki: get pavel's debs instead01:22
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clark070ok01:22
Shin_Goukiaftertaf, there is read me but no install guide :(01:22
N6REJrpm's ?01:22
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[LethAL] !alien01:23
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ubotu[alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/01:23
aftertafShin_Gouki:  holy trinity then01:23
Shin_Goukiright rpm01:23
N6REJrpm's are REDHAT package Management01:23
pschulz01N6REJ: Yep.. did that. Changed it to 'home' settings, but where are the 'location' configuration saved.. as I'd like to check that as well.01:23
clark070thoreauputic: is it easy to setup a LAN on ubuntu01:23
[LethAL] speaking of rpms...01:23
aftertafShin_Gouki:  id not install it iiwy.01:23
HobbseeShin_Gouki: why didnt you get the .deb version?01:23
topyliShin_Gouki: ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m130/Build-2/01:23
topyliget the debs01:23
thoreauputicclark070: well, not hard - but a bit of reading helps01:23
aftertafShin_Gouki:  if you dont know how, you can break your system01:23
Shin_Goukioh no01:24
Hobbseeclark070: my lan worked right out of the box01:24
aftertafdo like topyli says get the debs01:24
Dreamglideris there a VNC client/server for Ubuntu ?01:24
thoreauputic!tell clark070 about docs01:24
Shin_Goukidont tell me i donloaded 100 MB of wrong things?01:24
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airtonixi just got my laptop (that has only lan access) to boot from a pxe image served by a winxp tftp server01:24
clark070Hobbsee: does it have a choice whether it'll be a workstation or a server01:24
aftertafShin_Gouki:  it only cost you time and saved you from breaking things ;)01:24
intelikeyDreamglider yes01:24
topyliShin_Gouki: you downloaded 100 MB of wrong things01:24
Shin_Goukiok01:24
aftertafairtonix:  pxe linux image?01:24
aftertaflooool topyli :)01:25
Hobbseeoh...as in an actual lan, or a workstation as part of a lan?01:25
Shin_Goukitopyli, if i now download ur things01:25
airtonixyeah followed a gq on the ubuntu forum01:25
airtonixa faq01:25
clark070GUYS: actually, tommorow might be the first time that i'll be using UBUNTU01:25
aftertafairtonix:  nice :)01:25
Shin_Goukitopyli, those : ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m130/Build-2/01:25
aftertafRIS has its uses01:25
Hobbseeyay clark070!01:25
topyliShin_Gouki: those are pavel janik's packages, he always has the latest builds01:25
Dreamgliderclark070, pleas do so :)01:25
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Shin_Goukitopyli, this will run on my system & its OO 2 RC1?01:25
airtonixbut im stuck at the server selection bit01:25
clark070that's why i have lots of question about it01:25
Shin_Goukitopyli, i want kinda stable OO 2?01:25
Telonircan i share the swap partition between fedora and ubuntu?01:25
HobbseeTelonir: i would think so01:26
Shin_Goukitopyli, is it aBIT stable?01:26
thoreauputicclark070: when you've installed, we can help with your questions better01:26
Telonirthink...?01:26
topyliShin_Gouki: yes. get OOo_SRC680_m130_mk_native_LinuxIntel_install_deb.tar.gz01:26
pschulz01clark070: Do you need to connect to a LAN, or create LAN services (eg. DHCP, Samba, Web)?01:26
airtonixcan i dump the contents of the iso as files into a folder under apache on the xp machine?01:26
topyliShin_Gouki: plus the langpack for your language01:26
thoreauputicclark070: or experiment with the live CD01:26
Telonirif i am going to do that i need to know01:26
N6REJtopyli: still no bittorrent start01:26
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HobbseeShin_Gouki: seems stable enough here01:26
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clark070yup01:27
topyliN6REJ: try downloading directly01:27
Shin_Goukiok01:27
clark070that's it01:27
aftertafN6REJ:  hmmmm.01:27
N6REJHOLY COW BATMAN IT WORKD!!!!01:27
steve_donTelnor: I have used a swap area between gentoo and ubuntu without any problems so you should be fine01:27
clark070BSA got so serious with Microsoft01:27
aftertafN6REJ:  and the dpkg thing :/01:27
Shin_Goukitopyli, were do i find language packs?01:27
clark070that's why some of the net cafe here are switching with linux system01:27
N6REJaftertaf: DONE!!! it asked me what dictionary I wanted :D01:27
Dreamglideri just installed ubuntu on my laptop and stationary, it's nice :)01:27
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aftertafcool01:27
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clark070glad to think that we are lisence at school, :-)01:27
Telonirits just that ubuntu's setup wabts to format it...01:27
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N6REJaftertaf: now its doing other stuff.01:27
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aftertafyeah01:28
topyliShin_Gouki: they are in a subdirectory called OOo_SRC680_m130_native_LinuxIntel_langpacks_deb01:28
aftertafN6REJ:  lots of stuff :)01:28
HobbseeTelonir: that's fine, i recall01:28
N6REJ<---- celebratory cig & pepsi01:28
N6REJ{_}?01:28
aftertaf!cigarette01:28
Telonirk01:28
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)01:28
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airtonixhas anyone done this before? installing via a windoze xp lan01:28
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clark070thoreauputic: will i still be needing that drivers of my hardware01:28
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steve_donTelonir: theres nothing in there that you will loose anyway01:28
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Shin_Goukitopyli, i thanku very much!01:28
clark070thoreauputic: or ubuntu has tons of driver on its bank01:29
aftertafairtonix:  somebody somewhere surely, but hardcore welldoneness fromme :)01:29
airtonixdreamglider: how did you do it?01:29
aftertafclark070:  depends on what h/w01:29
thoreauputicclark070: ubuntu has most drivers built-in01:29
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topyliShin_Gouki: build_1 seems to have more languages, build_2 langpack directory apparently only contains bug-fixed ones.01:29
Dreamgliderairtonix, install ubuntu ?01:29
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N6REJis it going to be a big deal to change the video card AFTER all these updates are done?01:29
aftertafN6REJ:  nope01:29
pschulz01airtonix: it shouldn't be a problem at all if you can setup your IP networking correctly (IP Address and Gateway)01:29
aftertafnot really......01:29
clark070thoreauputic: even boards with built in LAN, Sound, and Video Card01:29
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thoreauputicclark070: some wireless cards need windows drivers as well (ndiswrapper)01:29
N6REJI just realised I've got my GOOD video card in the server LOL01:29
N6REJk01:29
aftertaflol N6REJ change xorg first though ;)01:30
N6REJ*whew*01:30
thoreauputicclark070: my board is like that01:30
aftertafwhat card is it?01:30
N6REJaftertaf: thats in it now?01:30
airtonixyeah im actually looking at the screen that lets you choose an archive to begin installing from01:30
Dreamglideron the stationary i installed 5.10 from CD and on my laptop i installed 5.04 of the internet and updated to 5.10 :)01:30
fishaftertaf: but the bug's solution included installing the server file of gedit. Maybe that's what I need? What's a server file anyway?01:30
[LethAL] ubotu, winamp is <reply>You can get Winamp 3 for Linux at http://fileforum.betanews.com/download/Winamp_3_for_Linux/1002748075/1. It currently does not work with ubuntu01:30
ubotuokay, [LethAL] 01:30
aftertafno, the one you wanna put in.01:30
HobbseeDreamglider: the update went ok?01:30
thoreauputicclark070: if it is supported, the kernel will contain drivers for it01:30
topyliShin_Gouki: looks like i told you to download the mk_native package. you almost certainly want the US_native package though :(01:30
Dreamglideryes01:30
clark070i see01:30
aftertafubotu:  forget winamp01:30
ubotui forgot winamp, aftertaf01:30
[LethAL] :/01:30
thoreauputicclark070: called modules in linux, actually01:30
Shin_Goukitopyli, i wanted if possible german language OO01:30
Hobbseelol aftertaf01:30
aftertafhehe01:31
DreamgliderHobbsee, yes01:31
aftertafwho needs that.01:31
N6REJaftertaf: let me look, its the only other card I got.... S3 Virge DX01:31
topyliShin_Gouki: so get the US package, and a german langpack01:31
[LethAL] Hmmm...01:31
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aftertafoki.01:31
Shin_Goukitopyli, can u give me hint were i find this language packe?01:31
Hobbsee[LethAL] : you need to change what the !ntfs shows - the program it refers to is absolute rubbish and ought to be taken outside and stomped on01:31
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clark070oki doki01:31
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aftertafHobbsee:  you can do it too01:31
topyliShin_Gouki: go up a directory, dive into Build_1 directory01:31
[LethAL] ubotu, winamp is use XMMS or Beep Media Player (BMP) instead (Winamp for linux doesn't work on Ubuntu)01:31
ubotuokay, [LethAL] 01:31
[LethAL] Hmmm01:32
Hobbseeaftertaf: that's true01:32
[LethAL] !ntfs01:32
ubotuwell, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.01:32
N6REJaftertaf: its an ancient 4/8mb pci card, but for the server, who cares!  My son won't be happy with the TNT2 32mb agp card, but its the best one I've got that I'm NOT using.01:32
[LethAL] I see01:32
DreamgliderWinamp is nice, so is XMMS the only thing i want would like in XMMS is the same "jump to file" as in Winamp where one can edit the que list01:32
airtonixyep looking at that screen to choose and archive and itseems like i cant connect to anything01:32
Hobbseethat winmac_fstab is rubbish01:32
Shin_Goukitopyli, ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m130/Build-2/OOo_SRC680_m130_en-US_native_LinuxIntel_install_deb.tar.gz but this file is the right US one?01:32
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HobbseeShin_Gouki: yes01:32
thoreauputicdon't change the ntfs factoid, please01:32
topyliShin_Gouki: yes. i sware this time it's correct :)01:32
[LethAL] I wasn't going to :)01:32
thoreauputicHobbsee: it isn't rubbish - many people have used it successfully01:32
Shin_Goukitopyli, i tzry to trust ^^01:32
DreamgliderHobbsee, winamc_fstab works fine here01:33
[LethAL] But I've never used that program for my 2 ntfs partitions...01:33
Dreamgliderwinmac*01:33
aftertafHobbsee:  its for new new users......01:33
thoreauputicHobbsee: please, no FUD01:33
Hobbseeright...i know i ended out fixing it's output earlier, because it mounted partitions incorrectly01:33
aftertafit works, but i agree the spaces in the names aint good.01:33
topyliShin_Gouki: german langpack plus help is at ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m130/Build-1/OOo_SRC680_m130_native_LinuxIntel_langpacks_deb/01:33
Hobbseeat least point to the mounting partitions in ubuntuguide01:34
clark070GUYS, is it okay if my hardware is this01:34
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[LethAL] Erm.. that's not wise Hobbsee01:34
thoreauputic!ubuntuguide01:34
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.01:34
[LethAL] ^^01:34
Hobbseemost of it still works01:34
clark070AMD Athlon XP01:34
Hobbseewell, some of it01:34
Dreamglideris there any good Windows emulator for Ubuntu01:34
clark070256mb RAM01:34
airtonixdreamglider: so you just waited ages for it to download, coz my isp gives me mirrored linux files with no download qouta01:34
clark070and a 40GB hdd01:34
aftertafclark070:  SDR or DDR?01:34
thoreauputicHobbsee: we have to pick up the pieces when people use ubuntuguide01:34
clark070ddr01:35
[LethAL] Dreamglider, You probably don't need an emulator... WINE is a good compatibility layer01:35
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aftertafok.. seems more than fine to me.01:35
Dreamgliderairtonix, it took me about 40 minutes to install 5.04 from the net01:35
thoreauputicHobbsee: main problenm is it's out of date01:35
airtonixwhat conn you got?01:35
topyliclark070: that's my machine exactly, except i have a duron CPU01:35
clark070is there any prob with sd01:35
aftertafclark070:  most pbs come rom soundcard/videocard01:35
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N6REJclark070: mines a p2-350 with 384mb sdram and a 40mb OLD WD drive01:35
Dreamgliderand another 40 min's to get 5.10 i have 2048/51201:35
TiMiDoclark070: sd?01:35
Hobbseethoreauputic: well who can change it so it is in date?  the FAQ doesnt cover mounting windows partitions, last i saw01:35
clark070topyli: i see, and a built in audio, lan and sound card01:35
r0xoRwill someone run a quick test for me... with vim and xterm?01:35
topyliclark070: i'm dreaming of more RAM but it does work quite well01:35
aftertafclark070:  sdram, no.... just wondering for perf reasons01:35
airtonixdreamglider: sweeet01:36
r0xoRi want someone to launch an xterm and then run vim and switch to the "inkpot" colorscheme01:36
clark070ok01:36
r0xoRanyone in here use inkpot inside vim inside terminal?01:36
r0xoRdoes it work by default?01:36
topyliclark070: dunno, i disabled those the day i bought the motherboard and installed real cards01:36
DreamgliderIt's allright but not that fast :)01:36
N6REJaftertaf: ram is cheap right now.... I just bought a gig for under $10001:36
clark070can ubuntu still run on Pentium MMX01:36
thoreauputicHobbsee: subscribe to the ubuntu-docs list - thay are putting together new docs01:36
N6REJand that was ddr 40001:36
Dreamglidercould be 10 or better yet 100Mbit01:36
aftertafclark070:  yeah, but itll be slow.01:36
r0xoRclark070, it prolly still can yes01:36
airtonixdreamglider: weeel, im only on 512/12801:36
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thoreauputicHobbsee: some idea here http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/index.html01:36
clark070but the ram in SIMM01:36
clark070;-)01:36
airtonixdreamglider: so did you do a netboot?01:37
thoreauputicHobbsee: although that isn't the final version01:37
clark070and just 32 or 64 i guess01:37
aftertafedo :)01:37
N6REJclark070: as long as you didn't want X I don't see why not.01:37
Hobbseethe reason i say it was rubbish:  that was what it came up with, mounting someones partitions. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/385818 The last 2 entries are the ones i added later, and werent done by the program01:37
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clark070N6REJ: what X01:37
aftertaf:)01:37
baskakhello, can anybody help, please?01:37
aftertaf!x01:37
ubotuaftertaf: I give up, what is it?01:37
aftertaf!X01:37
ubotuaftertaf: No idea01:37
aftertaferf01:37
N6REJno X?01:37
Shin_Goukitopyli, so this file will make my download OO german? : openoffice.org-de_1.9.130-1_i386.deb01:37
aftertafbaskak:  ask away01:37
N6REJubuntu doesn't use X?01:38
aftertafShin_Gouki:  Ja ;)01:38
r0xoRso... anyone willing to do me that favor? and tell me if inkpot renders correctly in xterm in vim?01:38
Hobbseeah, i see it is there01:38
airtonixX as in X-windows?01:38
thoreauputicHobbsee: I suggest you submit a patch to Dennis Kaarsemaker (seveas)01:38
Shin_Gouki:D01:38
r0xoRit'll take like two seconds01:38
Dreamgliderairtonix, i downloaded a boot image and 4 disks from the ubuntu forum and dumped the to floppys then booted of the floppys01:38
Hobbseei wouldnt know how to01:38
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aftertafthoreauputic:  i second that01:38
N6REJyeah01:38
topyliShin_Gouki: yes. if you want, you can get the -de-help_ package too. i don't know what the -de-res_ package is01:38
airtonixcool, wouldn;t have the url to the page for downloads.01:38
clark070ok01:38
clark070got to go guys01:38
clark070dinner time01:38
clark070tnx for the BIG HELP01:38
clark070thoreauputic: TNX01:38
clark070N6REJ: TNX01:38
clark070Hobbsee: TNX01:39
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N6REJclark070: yw  though I'm very new and very rusty01:39
clark070topyli: TNX01:39
topylihehe01:39
thoreauputicHobbsee: seems a bitmuch to call a script rubbish when you don't know what's wrong with it, wouldn't you say?01:39
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aftertaflol N6REJ you're already helping ppl after being here like a day or 2 :)01:39
baskakafterfaf: I tried to "save up" space for Ubuntu using built-in partitioning utility. (I have a laptop with 40GB hdd, a ca. 6 GB WinXP partition and 33GB "everything else" partition.) I have resized the second partition (labelled as "d:") and put, using automation, two Linux partitions. The Ubuntu utility reported that it cannot properly set up the Linux partitions, though (I didn't write down the announcement). So I undid the change, and Ubuntu p01:39
clark070got to guys01:39
clark070MANY TNX01:40
N6REJaftertaf: tnx, I guess some of it is still stuck in the grey matter cells.01:40
aftertafbaskak:  and ubuntu what?01:40
Hobbseethoreauputic: well, it wasnt working properly, and wasnt mounting the guy's partitions, like it was supposed to.01:40
aftertafhehe01:40
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N6REJoh POOP01:40
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thoreauputicHobbsee: so submit a bug report to Seveas - he wrote it01:40
N6REJbroke at "gnome applets"01:40
baskakafterfaf: sorry?01:40
N6REJsame error as b401:40
airtonixdreamglider: im going to try looking for it then... cheers for the awareness01:40
N6REJbrb, I've gotta go spank a child for not getting up for school01:40
airtonixadios01:40
Dreamgliderairtonix, have a look at this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2955501:40
Dreamgliderdamn01:41
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rob^thoreauputic, is that the ubuntu setup script?01:41
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aftertaflol N6REJ01:41
Hobbseethoreauputic: ok, wonder what to put in it...01:41
thoreauputicrob^: no - a windows/mac mounting script01:41
rob^ah01:41
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rob^Hobbsee, just do it manually, its not that hard01:42
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baskakaftertaf: pardon, mistyped your nick. can you help?01:42
aftertafN6REJ:  rerun command, get it past the error.....01:42
thoreauputicHobbsee: tell him what it did wrong - with precise examples, output if possible etc01:42
aftertafbaskak:  i didnt get the end of your message...01:42
N6REJback01:42
aftertafyou undid the change and.............?01:42
N6REJaftertaf: I haven't done anything yet01:42
rob^sheez.. people running scripts they know nothing about01:42
psycodehello, i can't mount my dvd-rom drive for some reason, i get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,    --- i can copy the line from fstab if it's needed01:42
aftertaflol N6REJ01:42
Kamping_Kaiser!info life01:42
Dreamgliderhow do i install wine in ubuntu ?01:42
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bouilhell01:42
aftertafi meant baskak01:42
bouilo01:42
thoreauputicHobbsee: he's on launchpad, or you can mail him offlist - he's on ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-users etc01:43
Shin_Goukiif i installed <<gaim>> using apt-get in which directory it is installed?01:43
Dreamgliderjust sudo apt-get install wine !01:43
aftertafKamping_Kaiser:  life is, get one Kamping_Kaiser :p01:43
N6REJaftertaf: ok, enter, enter, g, g, and its off running again.01:43
Kamping_Kaiseraftertaf: life doesnt exist :P01:43
aftertafShin_Gouki:  you can see that in synaptic :)01:43
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Kamping_Kaiser(21:12:48) ubotu: Package 'life' does not exist.01:43
Hobbseeok01:43
Kamping_Kaiserlol01:43
aftertafN6REJ:  weird, what is the error......01:43
aftertafexactly.01:43
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thoreauputicHobbsee: always helpful for the author to know when his stuff has problems - if it needs fixing he'll do it for sure01:44
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baskakaftertaf: I undid the change, and Ubuntu partitioning tool reported my original NTFS 33GB partition again.However, Windows doesn't see it as "d:" anymore (only under Disk Management, as "unknown"), and Partition Magic describes the whole of it as "Linux swap", but at same time colour-codes it as "other", and doesn't allow any changes.01:44
Dreamglideranyone if airtonix comes back pleas tell him to look at this link -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2955501:44
psycodeanyone ? how can i know what's wrong with my /etc/fstab line that mounts dvd-rom ?01:44
intelikeypsycode you can try /.dev/hdc01:44
N6REJdpkg; ../../main/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion 'dependtry <=4' failed.01:44
Hobbseethoreaputic: very true....figuring out what launchpad is now01:44
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falcon3hi01:45
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baskakaftertaf: so it's not working anymore01:45
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N6REJACK!!!! now I just got a trace kernel crash!01:45
aftertafbaskak:  sounds borked man.......01:45
falcon3having a tiny problem, i'm trying to mount a partition though samba:01:45
falcon3kevin@Cerberus:~$ sudo mount /media/downloads01:45
falcon3Could not resolve mount point /media/downloads01:45
N6REJ*sigh*01:45
psycodeintelikey, i don't understand ..01:45
thoreauputicHobbsee: launchpad.net01:45
aftertafN6REJ:  arent you lucky ;)01:45
lucaasShin_Gouki, the executable is in /usr/bin/gaim, if that was what you where looking for01:45
N6REJbah humbug!01:45
bouilwhat about the problem with firefox and thunderbird.... it is a big security issue and it is not fixed ! http://lisa.bouil.org/~bouil/ubuntu01:45
Shin_Goukilucaas, thxxxx!!!01:45
N6REJok, I'm giving up until breezy gets dl'd, then I'll try that.01:46
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lucaasShin_Gouki, np :>01:46
epic_dooglus,   I have seen a few ppl asking about root-tail with gnome/nautilus, so if you get a fix happening properly, a few ppl would appreciate it if you submit it on sf01:46
r0xoRbouil, wtf is your deal?01:46
N6REJleast I know I can install hoary now.  Now if I could just figure out how to get it to upg I'd be in great shape LOL01:46
intelikeypsycode "mount /.dev/hdc /media/cdrom "  or where ever you mount it.01:46
baskakaftertaf: borked? i.e. bad?01:46
bouilr0xoR: when i click on the link, it's launch "xfontsel"01:46
Hobbseethoreaputic: i got that far lol, i'm figuring it out beyond that01:46
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psycodeintelikey, it gives me odd results, now the mount just stucks01:47
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r0xoRbouil, uhhh... so what...01:47
r0xoRbouil, so don't click links unless you know what they are... ?01:47
aftertafbaskak:  as in lost yeah...01:47
Shin_Goukipsycode, i feel with u mount is....strange o_O01:47
inthenowhttp://www.bluedonut.com/100jokes.htm01:47
r0xoRbouil, and don't surf porn sites?01:47
psycodeintelikey, oh it's over, same message .. any ideas what can i change ?01:47
bouilr0xoR: ....01:47
N6REJbouil: I don't know what your complaining about, it worked great in my ver of FF and TB01:47
bouilr0xoR: and don't be connected to the net ?01:47
r0xoRbouil, sure that too01:47
aftertafbaskak:  try to resize it again, and install ubuntu. then see if ubuntu can access it.01:47
intelikeythat's not a movie disk you are trying to mount is it psycode ?01:47
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bouilnormaly, i'm up to date01:48
intelikeyor audio....01:48
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aftertafor try fixboot/fixmbr in recovery console (tm)01:48
Moni booted the hoary livecd and tried to mount a nfs mount but it doesn't work. i can mount it fine when i boot from HD though. am i missing something?01:48
dooglusepic_: did you try my patch?01:48
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psycodeintelikey, yeah it's a dvd :S01:48
r0xoRbouil, it's all gradients... if you're using software of any kind and you're on the internet - you ARE prone to hackers and viruses... end of story01:48
pc22any mmorpg in ubuntu?01:48
psycodeintelikey, movie01:48
Moni installed portmap and this is from dmesg: nfs: server 192.168.1.16 not responding, still trying01:48
r0xoRbouil, all you can do is be a smart web surfer01:48
epic_not yet dooglus    I just got ready, it is fri night, I am going out01:48
baskakaftertaf: but ubuntu wasn't able to properly resize it, that's the point, it reported kind of an error01:48
r0xoRbouil, so use mozilla instead or something01:48
epic_bouil, what is that meant to do?  Worked fine here01:48
Monpc22: there's planeshift. not available through apt though01:48
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dooglusepic_: it very nearly works.  but there's something not quite right.01:48
falcon3can anyone help me:01:49
falcon3kevin@Cerberus:~$ sudo mount /media/downloads01:49
falcon3Could not resolve mount point /media/downloads01:49
bouilepic_: here, it launch xfontsel when i click on the link....01:49
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epic_not here, it launched evolution here01:49
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Monfalcon3: mkdir /media/downloads01:49
pc22Mon, have u played it?01:49
Monfalcon3: sudo mkdir /media /download probably01:49
bouilit's a firefox/thunderbird bug, maybe 2 week old01:49
falcon3Mon: it exists01:49
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Monpc22: tried it once a while ago01:49
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N6REJbouil: nope, opened TB and tried to send an email01:49
epic_man mount01:49
aftertafbaskak:  im not certain how muc you NEED to recover this partition, but it sounds petty much shagged to me.... which is not a good answer for you, i know :/01:49
r0xoRbouil, so complain to the firefox/thunderbird people... not the ubuntu people01:49
pc22Mon, do i download the binary?01:49
Monfalcon3: ehr sure? you lost me then..01:49
bouiland i'm suprised it's not fixed... even if i hava, normaly, ubuntu up to date01:49
N6REJbouil: it ain't broke LOL01:50
epic_bouil,   it seems to be fixed01:50
r0xoRbouil, you've gotta find the right person to yell at... otherwise you're blowing hot air01:50
Monpc22: yeah01:50
falcon3Mon: its a mount through smbfs...01:50
bouilstrange01:50
N6REJbouil: what ver of FF are you using?01:50
thoreauputicHobbsee:  https://launchpad.net/people/dennis01:50
pc22Mon, how do i run the install after?01:50
bouil1.0.701:50
Monfalcon3: hmm smb always nice. tried it the GUI way?01:51
bouilMozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922 Firefox/1.0.4 (Ubuntu package 1.0.7)01:51
Monpc22: ./filename01:51
falcon3Mon: there is a GUI ? ! ?01:51
epic_Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051004 Firefox/1.0.7 (Ubuntu package 1.0.7)  here too and it works fine01:51
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baskakaftertaf: so, did i did something wrong with the partitioning tool? should i not touch it anymore? ;) i mean linuxes are advertised by saying you can save up space on existing disc by means of built-in partitioning tool01:51
psycodecan someone explain how can i play a dvd movie ?01:51
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pc22mon, cool. thanks01:51
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baskakaftertaf: and it says it's (to some extent) automatic01:52
aftertafbaskak:  and it works for lots of people........ ask tyour question here again, but shorter....01:52
falcon3Mon: there is a GUI ? ! ?01:52
thoreauputicHobbsee: email here >> (and other details)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DennisKaarsemaker01:52
aftertafbaskak:  i know......01:52
epic_bouil, update your firefox01:52
Monfalcon3: i mean in ubuntu there's a "network" thing under places right?01:52
Hobbseethoreauputic: yeah, thanks, just spotted that :)01:52
thoreauputicOK :)01:52
falcon3i'm on KDE :)01:52
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aftertaffalcon3:  good man ;)01:53
N6REJbouil: try this one... http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5b2&os=linux&lang=en-US01:53
bouilepic_: i belive it is up to date, according to aptget update / dist-upgrade01:53
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N6REJyour a bit behind01:53
Monfalcon3: ah you kubuntu bastards :)01:53
epic_bouil,   incorrect01:53
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falcon3Mon: ubuntu with KDE aptgetted :p01:53
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aftertaf!start a desktop war01:53
ubotue is much better than xfce!01:53
epic_run updates, it is up to 1.0.7 now, you are running 1.0.401:53
Monfalcon3: what's the complete mount line you use?01:53
falcon3Mon and aftertaf : gonna switch to fluxbox anyway :p01:53
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falcon3Mon: hold on :)01:54
aftertaflol falcon301:54
kempohi all01:54
holycowanyone know if oooqstart-gnome is supposed to support oo.org2 at any point in time?01:54
bouilN6REJ: understandable, but you can understand that i prefer packaged one01:54
falcon3//achilles/downloads /media/downloads smbfs ro,user,auto  0 001:54
falcon3Mon:01:54
kempoi installed ubuntu, but the install wizard didnt ask me for root pw. is there a standard pw?01:54
thoreauputic!root01:54
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:54
N6REJbouil: yep, it is fixed in this release though... ;)01:54
bouilok.01:54
thoreauputickempo: ^^^01:54
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pc22how do i shutdown like in 30 minutes01:55
N6REJshutdown -r 3001:55
Monpc22: shutdown --help01:55
kempowhat is thoreauputic ?01:55
Monwell that'll work too :p01:55
N6REJor shutdown -h 3001:55
baskakThe question again:01:55
falcon3Mon: seen it ?01:55
N6REJdepends if you want it to restart or not01:55
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baskakI tried to "save up" space for Ubuntu using built-in partitioning utility. I have resized the second partition ("d:") and put, using automation, two Linux partitions. The Ubuntu utility reported error during partitioning, though. I undid the change, and the tool reported my original NTFS 33GB partition again. However, Windows doesn't see it as "d:" anymore (only under Disk Management, as "unknown"), and Partition Magic describes the whole of it a01:55
thoreauputic!tell kempo about root01:55
pc22toda01:55
baskakTried to shorten it, but need to give details.01:55
thoreauputickempo: read the URL ubotu just sent you01:55
kempook01:55
ben_underscorehi all01:55
aftertafanyone give me a poiner for laptop temperature sensor config?01:56
N6REJyw pc2201:56
kempooh man i guess i know whats up with root know01:56
kempo^^01:56
Monfalcon3: and you're absolutly positive the dir exists, no capitals or something?01:56
ben_underscoredoes anyone know much about x windows and connecting to a remote machine for display of the x output?01:56
ben_underscoreon ubuntu that is :-p01:56
falcon3oh, its case sensitive ? Mon01:56
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Monfalcon3: everything is pretty much :)01:56
Hobbseeaftertaf: in kde? ksensors01:56
thoreauputicben_underscore: easiest way is with ssh -X01:56
aftertafben_underscore:  a bit.....01:57
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dooglusben_underscore: I think the default setup is that ubuntu's X server doesn't listen for incoming connections01:57
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holycowben_underscore, start your research with nomachine.com01:57
ben_underscoredooglus, yes! that is what happens01:57
ubuntuloverI love ubuntu01:57
thoreauputicdooglus: yes, but ssh -X works fine01:57
falcon3trying with case sensitive now01:57
holycowthey have a client for optimal and secure x sessions ... the google on from there01:57
falcon3doesnt seem to work though, Mon01:57
ben_underscorethoreauputic, does it?01:57
bob2I don't think anyone's X server listens for incoming connections anymore01:57
dooglusben_underscore: if you use ssh -X to connect to the remote machine, the shell on the remote machine will magically be able to send X windows back to your ubuntu box01:57
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aftertafssh is the way01:57
Monfalcon3: it should. or at least give another error01:57
thoreauputicben_underscore: you can use ssh -X or nxserver/ nxclient01:58
thoreauputic!ssh01:58
nathanHi! I'm needing some program for music exchanging for Ubuntu. Could you recomend someone or me?01:58
ubotufrom memory, ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto01:58
ben_underscorethoreauputic, is nx free?01:58
falcon3Mon: same error :P01:58
thoreauputicben_underscore: ^^01:58
thoreauputicben_underscore: freenx01:58
thoreauputic!frrenx01:58
ubotuthoreauputic: Wish i knew01:58
thoreauputicbah01:58
thoreauputic!freenx01:58
ubotuit has been said that freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX01:58
aftertafHobbsee:  sudo apt-get install  ing now01:58
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baskakaftertaf: doesn't seem to work :(01:59
bob2well, it can be useful, but having it on by default is a bad idea01:59
Hobbseebaskak: is windows able to read the d:/ partition, even though it's unknown?01:59
Hobbsee:P aftertaf: works nicely01:59
ben_underscore and what is this ! business? is that a bot command01:59
baskakaftertaf: maybe i should seek help at the authors of the partitioning tool01:59
aftertafben_underscore:  yes01:59
baskakhobsee: no. it only shows it in the disc management01:59
aftertafbaskak:  maybe, but i really think D: is borked.01:59
aftertafbaskak:  it will..... it is a physical partition.02:00
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baskakaftertaf: i see, thanks...02:00
aftertafbut it has no mount point to windows, ie D:02:00
aftertafdisk management shows it as what type of FS?02:00
fishwhat command do i use to find out more about a program that is runnign?02:01
aftertafwhat do you want to know about it fish ?02:01
fishi want to know more about vino-server02:01
fishit's taking up a lot of cpu power02:02
nathanHi! I'm needing some program for music exchanging for Ubuntu. Could you recomend someone for me?02:02
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N6REJaftertaf: whats the dif in system config between standard and "server" on the install?02:02
pc22thanks\02:02
fishnathan , i recommend the RIAA.02:02
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bob2ben_underscore: it's the bot's attention-getting character02:02
ben_underscorefish, ha ha!02:02
locomortonathan: limewire (if you have Java setup) or otherwise gtk-gnutella02:02
pschulz01fish: what would you like to know?02:02
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ben_underscorelimewire is good02:03
locomortonathan: you can also you bittorrent with the client that ships with ubuntu02:03
pschulz01fish: 'top'02:03
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fishpschulz01: i'd like to know more about vino-server. it's hogging up my 4 year old pc's cuu.02:03
fishcpu02:03
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baskakaftertaf: moment, i'll check02:03
nathanOk, Thaks. I'll look these02:03
pschulz01fish: 'ps aux | grep vino'02:04
Monthoreauputic: what's dennis kaarsemaker's irc nickname?02:04
thoreauputicN6REJ: the server install gives you a base system witjhout X02:04
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thoreauputicMon: Seveas02:04
Monthoreauputic: thanks02:04
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psycodecan someone please explain how to play a dvd movie ? i just can't ...02:05
fishpschulz01: i used top to find out about vino-server hogging my cpu. now i want to know what exactly that program does. I heard about a command before, but i forgot.02:05
aftertafN6REJ:  server is a mnimal install02:05
Hobbsee!dvd02:05
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras02:05
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pschulz01fish: man vino02:05
psycodeHobbsee, i have that, how do i watch a dvd ? totem dvd:// produce an error02:05
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Shin_Goukihello! someone here who uses icewm and is abit familiar with it??02:05
locomortoShin: yes?02:06
Monpsycode: Breezy?02:06
bimberifish: vino-server is the remote desktop daemon02:06
pschulz01fish: apt-cache show vino-server (it that is the package name)02:06
jmgguys how can i map my fn key02:06
psycodeMon,  hoary02:06
fishpschulz01: oh right. that's one. but what's the command that gives a reader's digest version?02:06
pschulz01bimberi: thanks... (I don't use it.)02:06
psycodejmg, thinkpad ?02:06
Monpsycode: hmm had a few crashes with breezy. hoary should just work though. tried multiple discs?02:06
N6REJdon't know if I'd ever really use X... It should be set it and forget it.  99% of the time you wind up in shell anyway if something goes foobar02:06
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pschulz01fish: ?02:07
Kartoffelcan anyone tell me if it is better to use ubuntus stable or unstable version???02:07
N6REJfish: info02:07
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locomortoKartoffel: At the moment there really is no 'unstable' version02:07
fishwhy is vino-server hogging up my memory? Well, anyway, I just killed it. Now my cpu is back to normal speed again.02:07
baskakaftertaf: so it even gives the original logical disk name i gave it ("pliki.mobile") and also says: "healthy (unknown partition)" (nb. i'm translating it into english)02:07
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locomortoKartoffel: breezy will be released on the 13th of this month02:07
apokryphosKartoffel: breezy is technically unstable, but it's gonna be out so soon02:07
Kartoffel@locomorto oh, i didn't know that02:08
KartoffelThank you!02:08
locomortoIts been in feature freeze for about a month now02:08
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psycodeMon, sorry, it works with a different disc, but: 1) it takes loads of time to load ... 2) i get to the menu and then it stucks, is there an application i can use to emulate a dvd player so i can choose from the menu ?02:08
Monpsycode: totem should do...02:09
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Kartoffeldo i need to download the complete new image or can i upgrade or update on-line?02:09
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Monpsycode: you use totem-gstreamer? totem-xine works a lot better for most people (me)02:09
apokryphosKartoffel: you can alter one file and one command to upgrade02:09
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MonKartoffel: you only install ubuntu once, then update :)02:09
locomortoKartoffel: you cannot download a snapshot of right now as far as I know02:09
apokryphosKartoffel: /msg ubotu upgrade2breezy02:09
aftertafbaskak:  unknown partition = windows has no clue. It could just be the partiton map that is screwed. Search for some tools on internet that might recover it.02:09
KartoffelOk, thank you mates!02:09
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thoreauputicapokryphos: that factoid is gone02:09
locomortoKartoffel: you have to get the preview and then update from there (there is quite a bit)02:10
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apokryphosthoreauputic: nope02:10
dooglusHobbsee: you said that the link on the page you tried opened in a new tab.  Why did it do that?  Are you using an extension?02:10
thoreauputic!tell Kartoffel about breezy02:10
[LethAL] I readded it the other day...02:10
thoreauputicapokryphos: ah, it must have been restored then :)02:10
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[LethAL] thoreauputic, ^^02:10
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N6REJanyone having problems getting to https://shipit.ubuntu.com other then me?02:11
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thoreauputicapokryphos: guess :) (not me)02:11
psycodeMon, yeah ... thanks anyway, at least i know it works :)02:11
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psycodealso, how can i mount a dvd movie so that  i can browse through files ?02:11
[LethAL] N6REJ, yes02:11
[LethAL] N6REJ, Oh, wait,,,02:11
Monpsycode: yeah as in i use -gstreamer? install totem-xine then :)02:11
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holycowpsycode, just put it in the tray02:11
holycowit will appear on the desktop02:11
plovsis it possible to mount an iso using pmount (eg non-root, non-sudo)?02:12
Monpsycode: should happen automaticly. should be an icon on your dekstop02:12
holycowdouble click when ready02:12
baskakaftertaf: any chance you can give more precise directions02:12
locomortoholycow: not a dvd02:12
[LethAL] N6REJ, typo... maybe it's your security settings?02:12
locomortoholycow: libdvdcss202:12
ben_underscorethanks for your help everyone - dooglus, thoreauputic, etc02:12
locomortopsycode: breezy or hoary?02:12
N6REJthats a maybe... it just doesn't do anything for me.02:12
thoreauputicben_underscore: you're welcome :)02:12
Shin_Goukilocomorto, i want to customize my start menue u have a good tutorial , for the "menu" file syntax..?02:12
Hobbseedooglus: running tabbrowser prefferences, have it set to open links and unresized popups in new tabs02:12
locomortoShin: my understanding is that it is all plain text02:13
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locomortoShin: just back it up and play around abit02:13
aftertafbaskak:  im sorry, im not an expert in disk recovery. I think the tool has damaged the sector on your disk that lists partitions & such, the map, and either you kill it and make a new one or you search the internet for a shareware tool that might recover it for you.02:13
aftertaf!cigarette02:13
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)02:13
airtonixDreamglider: hello again02:13
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arcticdoes somebody know where to get "C++ preprocessor" & "libasound headers version >= 1.0.9" for compiling?02:14
airtonixDreamglider: did you use the "cghoo"02:14
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airtonixDreamglider: did you use the "choose a mirror of ubuntu"?02:14
[LethAL] ubotu, forget something02:14
ubotui forgot something, [LethAL] 02:14
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bob2arctic: what are yo ucompiling?02:14
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Shin_Goukilocomorto, corect its text , but u might say i have deleted my"default-menu" so i dont know which "word-text" to use for a folder, which is quite basic... ^^02:15
arcticbob2, a realtek-linux-audiopack for alsa02:15
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bob2haha02:15
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bob2arctic: build-essential, then apt-cache search libasound | grep dev02:15
N6REJI think I need to reboot, seems ff is stuck LOL02:16
bob2N6REJ: no02:16
MonShin_Gouki: the basic menu thingy can be added through the "add to panel" option (right click on panel)02:16
N6REJno?02:16
locomortoShin: just could reinstall I suppose.02:16
locomortoMon: this is icewm02:16
bob2N6REJ: why would you reboot because Firefox is hung?02:16
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baroslwhat quality number of ogg file is equal to maximum quality of wma?02:16
Shin_Goukilocomorto, could u paste bin urs , text plzz..?02:16
N6REJbecause I don't see what process is hung in FF02:16
bob2N6REJ: and?02:16
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N6REJthis ain't a *nix box, its windoze02:17
baskakaftertaf: thanks so much. maybe there's a person on the channel or forum you can direct me to?02:17
bob2ouch02:17
N6REJlol :P02:17
MaTaKsHow to check free space on my disk02:17
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N6REJdf -h02:17
Shin_Goukilocomorto, ARIGATO, danke schn :) merci beaucoup!02:17
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kbrooks6 days02:18
Monanyone knows why a nfs mount won't mount through livecd but does when i boot from HD?02:18
locomortoShin: never fear02:18
locomortoShin: sudo aptitude install iceme02:18
locomortoits a graphical editor02:18
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Shin_Goukilocomorto, nooo i fear , plz paste bin urs  plzzz02:18
MaTaKsHow to check free space on my disk?02:19
arcticbob2, thx build-essentials were absent02:19
dv______damn02:19
Dragonizedlol02:19
dv______I keep getting a "file not found" error with samba02:19
[LethAL] MaTaKs, df -h02:19
dv______when trying to write in a guest-enabled share02:19
locomortoMaTaKs: look in the system resource viewer02:19
MaTaKsok thnx02:19
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N6REJsaid that LOL02:19
dv______I set permissions to 0775, writable =yes02:19
dv______anyone has an idea?02:19
Grant_MaTaKs: df -h from a console will tell you02:19
locomortoMaTaKs: applications -> System tools -> system monitor02:19
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thoreauputicdv______: do you think you could add a few more underscores to your nick? It's really short :D02:20
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[LethAL] LOL02:20
kbrooksthoreauputic: ROFL02:20
dv______what?02:20
dv______oh02:20
dv______:)02:20
locomortoShin: wheres the menu fule again :D02:20
N6REJRWX set each letter to 1 for a yes, and then r=4 + w=2 & X =102:20
airtonixanyone got a laptop that had windoze and then installed linux via netboot02:20
dv______it changed the nick automatically, sec...02:20
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dv-_:)02:20
airtonixcoz i got so far as choosing a mirror02:20
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dv-_so anyone has an idea?02:21
airtonixand none of them will owrk02:21
Shin_Goukilocomorto, in /home/*USR*/.icewm/menu02:21
thoreauputicdv-_: I was just kidding :)02:21
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N6REJdv-_: does that answer your q?02:21
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dv-_because this is really urgent, and I cant find a solution02:21
Kamping_Kaiserhow do you set a maximum level of CPU and Ram/swap  a process can use? iirc its a config file in /etc/ somewhere02:21
airtonixnone of the mirrors provided with the ubuntu install will work02:21
dv-_N6REJ, I dont understand the answer :)02:21
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dv-_where to change what?02:22
N6REJok, let me try again...... R=Read, W=write, X = execute.02:22
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N6REJok so far?02:22
florianis it save to resize the ubuntu partition?02:22
dv-_I know the permissions02:22
N6REJok02:22
dv-_but i dunno where to edit what02:22
dv-_smb.conf?02:22
N6REJoh LOL02:22
N6REJfor what?02:22
dv-_for getting this to work!02:22
aftertaf!pastebin02:22
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:22
locomortoShin: bah I have to log into icewm for the folder to be created02:22
locomortoShin: try deleting the menu file02:22
dv-_everytime I want to write and/or create a file in the share, it writes "file not found"02:23
N6REJdv-_: I thought you wanted to know what 775 meant?02:23
dv-_I *set* it to 775 already02:23
airtonixi'll just sit here and wait patiently02:23
dv-_according to the smb.conf comments02:23
N6REJdo you have ownership?02:23
dv-_there, it was explained that to enable writing set permissions to 77502:23
aftertafdo you pwn?02:23
dv-_ownership over what?02:24
N6REJthe file you trying to create and the folders ABOVE it.02:24
irvinanyone installed realplayer already?02:24
dv-_well, it is a guest-enabled share02:24
_jasondv-_:  775 doesn't let you write as "other" the 5 means you get execute and read, maybe that's why?02:24
N6REJyep02:24
aftertaflol bob202:24
dv-_but if it is a permission problem, why "file not found"?02:24
bob2?02:24
airtonixirvin: you really want it?02:24
N6REJnot world writeable02:24
N6REJis the file really there?02:24
dv-_shouldnt it output "permission denied"?02:24
kbrooks_jason: 75702:24
kbrookserm02:25
_jasonkbrooks:  ?02:25
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aftertafsorry, scrolled too far up... FF hanging :)02:25
airtonixirvin: coz I fink that gmplayer will do what you want02:25
arcticbob2, now he requires "curses library" which do i need?02:25
Monirvin: tried it once. didn't like it. why02:25
bob2arctic: libncurses5-dev02:25
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bob2this is probably a waste of time, tho02:25
kbrooksdv-_: do you own the file?02:25
_jasondv-_:  why don't you test it with a 777 for 2 seconds, just to see if that's the problem02:25
kbrooksor directory02:25
kbrooksor whatever02:25
N6REJdv-_: try touch thisismyfile in the directory02:25
dv-_well. I create it, so I own it?02:25
dv-_N6REJ, I tried already.02:25
irvinjust asking if it's worth installing02:25
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dv-_file not foun02:25
dv-_d02:25
HrdwrBobsweet02:26
HrdwrBober.. wrong channel02:26
dv-_trying with 77702:26
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N6REJhuh? touch says that ?02:26
dv-_just a sec02:26
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airtonixirvin: aaaah, now all is explained. wanders off muttering02:26
dv-_777 is useless02:26
N6REJ*scratchs head* .... Touch should CREATE the file if it doesn't exist02:26
Monirvin: naah :) unless you really need to play some rm file or something02:26
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N6REJls -la02:26
irvinthanks02:26
dv-_touch: cannot touch "bla": File or directory not found02:27
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N6REJsounds like upper level permission problems.02:27
N6REJare you chrooted?02:27
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dv-_yes02:27
N6REJhehehe, are you trying to write to an area OUTSIDE of the jail?02:28
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dv-_what jail?02:28
N6REJlol.. ok, where exactly are you trying to write to?02:28
makuhi all, i'm running breezy on kernel 2.6.12-9-686. I'm starting kernel module development. But my /usr/src/ does not contains linux directory, or for that sake, any directory. Which package do i need to have a valid /usr/src/linux02:28
dv-_HMMMM.02:28
dv-_restarting nmbd solved it.02:28
dv-_now this is really weird.02:28
kbrooksdv-_: chroot jail02:28
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gfxstylerhi02:29
[LethAL] maku, linux-something-soruce i'd imagine :D02:29
[LethAL] source*02:29
Shin_Goukilocomorto, i really need that default template... u got i dea who can help me/us?02:29
N6REJwhats nmbd?02:29
maku[LethAL] , linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686 (2.6.12-9.22)02:29
kbrooks!info nmbd02:29
dv-_the netbios name resolution server02:29
gfxstyleranyone here who knows something about ati drivers (no, i already got it to work :D )02:29
[LethAL] maku, no, not that02:29
ubuntu_wat????02:29
dv-_anyway, works.02:29
N6REJhmmmmmmmmmmm.....02:29
[LethAL] maku, that's part of the source, you want all of it ;)02:29
Shin_Goukihi who uses icewm here?02:29
dv-_weird, but works.02:29
airtonixwhoa, ok now the "choose mirror to download" is telling me that every single one of the mirrors have not got a valid release file or the mirror is not available.02:30
N6REJ*wonders why you would want to run netbios over linux*02:30
dv-_so someone bring on the champagner :)02:30
dv-_N6REJ, because windows computers access this one02:30
Shin_GoukiN6REJ  --> samba?02:30
Shin_Goukisamba?02:30
maku[LethAL] , then? is it there on packages.ubuntu.com inthe breezy section?02:30
dv-_anyway, gotta go.02:30
Kamping_Kaiser!tell bettong_bofh about hoary_extras02:30
ubuntu_yo funny N6REJ02:30
Grant_Shin_Gouki: i have icewm, what you need ?02:30
kbrooks!hoary extras02:30
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, kbrooks02:30
N6REJand you gotta use nb to do that?  Can't you straight tcp/ip?02:30
kbrooks!hoary_extras02:30
ubotukbrooks: Are you on ritalin?02:30
Kamping_Kaiser!tell bettong_bofh about hoary-extras02:31
kbrooksN6REJ: Not really02:31
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da_bon_bonhi all02:31
kbrooksN6REJ: windows uses netbios02:31
airtonixN6REJ: yeah i woz finking the same fing02:31
[LethAL] maku, /msg ubotu wiki KernelCompileHowto02:31
N6REJUGH... I hope they've improved Netbios security in the last 10 years02:31
Shin_GoukiGrant_, thx for reply i need the TEXT content of ur "menu" file as example, i deleted mine unintentionaly02:31
locomortoShin: hmm02:31
airtonixkbroooks: you sont need it02:31
Grant_Shin_Gouki: sure let me just fetch it02:31
N6REJI don't use NB on ANY of my windoze networks, and never have.02:31
locomortoShin: I started iceme and it foudna menu file02:31
Shin_Gouki:)02:31
locomortoI'll trysearching for it02:31
Shin_Goukikk02:32
kbrooksN6REJ: what do you do then02:32
da_bon_boni used to ue debian .. but i am thinking of shifting to ubuntu -- question -- 1. anything i must be aware of ? 2. can i drectly go from etch to breezy ?02:32
maku[LethAL] , thanks02:32
da_bon_bon*use02:32
airtonixN6REJ: maybe he talks to 1in95 machinies (shudder)02:32
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airtonixwin95 that is02:32
[LethAL] !tell da_bon_bon about rootsudo02:32
Chambers-hey guys, anyone here use the latest wine?02:32
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N6REJjust tell the machine I wanna share the device via a windows tcp/ip client connection and viola.... netbios is bye bye..02:32
bob2da_bon_bon: reinstall, probably not worth it if you're happy with debian02:32
N6REJyou have to TURN NB on now days to get it on.02:32
[LethAL] da_bon_bon, also, be careful with non-ubuntu debian packages02:33
da_bon_bonbob2: i am not .. the packages are outdated :(02:33
N6REJairtonix: thats a REAL possibility02:33
airtonixyeah baby! netbios is long dead and only good for talking to 60year old converyor belt computers02:33
da_bon_bonbob2: i dont think i will absolutely remove debian, however02:33
bob2da_bon_bon: in sid? wtf?02:33
da_bon_bonbob2: i am afaraid of using sid :)02:33
N6REJinfact, I wonder if I can see my printer from the network yet.. let me look LOL.. never tried that yet.02:33
airtonixlol, aaaah sheit.02:34
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Shin_Goukida_bon_bon, sid the sound format?02:34
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da_bon_bonShin_Gouki: debian unstable02:34
kbrooksShin_Gouki: sid the unstable debian tree02:34
Chambers-wondering if the latest wine allows microsoft MMC to be run.  For AD administration puposes02:34
da_bon_bonmmc ?02:35
da_bon_bonwhats that ?02:35
locomortoShin: I put it up there02:35
Chambers-microsoft management console02:35
da_bon_bonbob2: you use both, sid and ubuntu ?02:35
Shin_Goukilocomorto, where to?02:35
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airtonixok maybe i better rephrase the question: anyone used tftpd32.exe?02:35
locomortoon the pastbin02:35
bob2da_bon_bon: yes02:35
da_bon_bonok, bob202:36
airtonixda_bon_bon: use vnc thru ssh02:36
Shin_Goukilocomorto, got it02:36
kbrooksbob2: do you mix them?02:36
bob2kbrooks: no02:36
bob2kbrooks: well, that's not true, but I'm careful when I do02:36
Grant_Shin_Gouki: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2853 thats mine02:36
kbrooksbob2: what do you mean02:36
da_bon_bonairtonix: what ?!02:36
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baskakafteratf: thanks for care, best02:37
bob2kbrooks: when I use sid package on ubuntu or vice-versa, I'm careful to make sure it won't break anything02:37
Shin_GoukiGrant_, cool i thank u!02:37
kbrooksbob2: oh... i see02:37
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maku[LethAL] , can you have a look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/source/linux-source-2.6.12 & suggest what to download?02:37
airtonixda_bob_bon02:37
Whistlerhello02:37
Whistleri have some serious problems02:37
kbrooksask02:37
gfxstylerdoes anyone know why i only have a resolution of 1024x768 when i use the ati fglrx drivers? i already edited the xorg.conf file and there is only 1280x800 resolution, so i dont know why it does not work :/02:37
airtonixyou use virtual network comuting02:37
maku[LethAL] , is it this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12.orig.tar.gz02:38
da_bon_bonairtonix: why should i use vnc ?02:38
airtonixda_bob_bon: vnc is the remote dekstop of linux02:38
kbrooksmaku: no.02:38
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Whistlerhow can i view my boot log?02:38
makukbrooks, then02:38
Shin_Goukilocomorto, Grant_, thx now i can customize my stuff :)02:38
kbrooksWhistler: dmesg | less02:38
kbrookserm02:39
kbrooksdmesg | tail02:39
airtonixda_bob_bon: combine it with ssh and you have (i think) a secure remote desktop like connection.02:39
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airtonixI used to do this a long time ago02:39
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Whistler/var/lib/dpkg/status i have no such file02:39
airtonixi will again if i can get ubuntu installed on me toshiba laptop02:39
da_bon_bonairtonix: but WHY would i want to use vnc ?02:39
Whistlercan i restore it some way?02:39
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kbrooksmaku: apt-get source linux-source-$(uname -r}02:40
kbrookser02:40
kbrooksmaku: apt-get source linux-source-$(uname -r)02:40
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commodorehi02:40
bob2maku: why are yo utrying to compile your own kernel?02:40
airtonixda_bob_bon: have you used remote dekstop on windows xp?02:40
da_bon_bonapt-get source linux-source-`uname -r` too :)02:40
kbrooksbut that won't work ;)02:40
Whistlerany way of making /var/lib/dpkg/status ?02:40
bob2haha02:40
Whistlercause i had to delete it02:41
bob2Whistler: that's the file that stores what packages dpkg thinks you have installed02:41
Whistlersmt is wrong with my hdd02:41
bob2hahahahaha02:41
makukbrooks, thanks02:41
commodorei don't like gnomes way of browsing files, i heard there's a way to make file browser the default thingie to browse files, how to do that?02:41
da_bon_bonairtonix: dont know about tab completion ? i've never used vnc, and never felt the need to.02:41
makubob2, i'm learning kernel module programming02:41
Whistlerbob2 so no way of creating a new one?02:41
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HrdwrBobcommodore: wait until breezy comes out02:41
bob2Whistler: not simply02:41
makubob2, hence i need the headers02:41
HrdwrBobcommodore: it's totally different02:41
airtonixda_bob_bon: not happy with it.02:41
bob2maku: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential02:41
airtonixda_bob_bon: know how you feel02:41
Whistlerah i thought so02:41
bob2maku: all done, kthx02:41
Whistler=[02:41
bob2Whistler: don't ever delete files like that again02:42
bob2Whistler: also, look at /var/lib/dpkg/status-old and /var/backup02:42
Whistlerbob2 there were no other way02:42
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kbrooksbob2: why shouldnt he02:42
commodorewhen i make the window fullscreen in the default browser and then go somewhere, it makes it back smaller02:42
andy_satrianialow guys, is there any books to learn linux kernel programming02:42
bob2kbrooks: er, because it's a critical dpkg file which cannot be replaced?02:42
commodorewhy is that so?02:42
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makubob2, wait a sec, do i need just the headers or the linux-source? i'm a bit confused02:42
airtonixda_bob_bon: coz, unfortunatly and i dont like it, the windows remote desktop is much faster than vnc02:43
kbrooksbob2: how critical is it?02:43
da_bon_bonairtonix: bleh! type a few letters of a persons nick, and press TAB key02:43
bob2kbrooks: do you want dpkg to ever work again?02:43
N6REJI never knew how to do that till 2nite02:43
bob2kbrooks: that critical02:43
Whistlerbob2 how do i view my boot error messages?02:43
bob2maku: headers are all you need to compile modules02:43
airtonixda_bon_bon, cheers. sorry bout that02:43
bob2Whistler: depends where they came from02:43
kbrooksbob2: ah02:43
bob2Whistler: you can enale bootlog02:43
Whistlerbob2 / check was forced02:43
airtonixIm used to using jabber02:44
da_bon_bonairtonix: :) now explain why i might need vnc ?02:44
makubob2, & the source? wont i be needing that?02:44
airtonixcozs you want to use the mmc right?02:44
airtonixda_bon_bon, woops did  it again02:44
bob2maku: no02:44
bob2andy_satriani: http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/02:44
Whistlerbob2 btw thx i restored status from status-old02:44
bob2andy_satriani: assuming you're already a very competent C programmer02:44
da_bon_bonairtonix: eek.. i dont want to use mmc02:44
airtonixOhmer, ithought you did02:45
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makubob2, & what is kernel-tree used for?02:45
Whistlererror message says that i have bad block or duplicate sector in use and it shows me two files02:45
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Whistlerany ways of fixing that?02:45
[LethAL] How do I fix apt after a crash? It says the resource is locked...02:45
makubob2, linux-headers is a very small package, 777kb. is that ok?02:45
bob2maku: for something else related to building modules that can be distributed in ubuntu02:45
da_bon_bonmaku: the complete kernel source tree02:45
airtonixda_bon_bon, ohhhh, i've been talking to the wrong person02:45
bob2maku: yes02:45
andy_satrianibob2: i have just learn c in the last 2 years02:45
aftertaf[LethAL] :  check ps -A see if any are running.02:45
bob2[LethAL] : shut down every single other package management tool and remove the lock file manually02:46
andy_satrianibob2: thx for the tips02:46
airtonixda_bon_bon, sorry dude for confusing ya02:46
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bob2andy_satriani: on unix?02:46
makubob2, da_bon_bon okies :)02:46
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da_bon_bonairtonix: :)02:46
andy_satrianibob2: no, on windows :(02:46
[LethAL] aftertaf, bob2 I said after a crash... Synaptic was running and then I had to force-reboot02:46
dee_hello whats the command on the terminal to configure my resolution? its something like xorg.conf???02:47
airtonixChambers: you here still?02:47
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bob2andy_satriani: good luck then02:47
LokeDKWhere's my Run Command shortcut thing in the gnome menu (breezy) ? i use it a lot.. or used02:47
Whistlererror message says that i have bad block or duplicate sector in use and it shows me two files with duplicate blocks02:47
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da_bon_bonare there any changes ever made, between ubuntu rc and final ?02:47
[LethAL] LokeDK, Alt-F202:47
bob2[LethAL] : that's awesome, now read what I suggested02:47
LokeDKah thx02:47
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[LethAL] bob2, just delete it?02:47
andy_satrianibob2: thx, is there a basic tutorial to program c on unix02:47
kbrooksandy_satriani: write a c file02:47
bob2andy_satriani: don't know of any online ones off-hand, sorry02:47
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kbrooksrun gcc file.c02:48
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kbrooks./a.out02:48
[LethAL] w00t, thanks bob2 :D02:48
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dee_does anyone knows the command in the terminal to configure the resolution of the screen? its xorg.conf something02:48
N6REJbe back in a while, breezy is about done dl'n and I don't want to try burning it while this is running.02:48
bob2sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:48
dee_anyone?02:48
andy_satrianibob2: ok thx, i will try it :)02:48
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bob2but that's not really what you want02:48
gfxstyler02:48
gfxstylerdee_: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:49
airtonixcya later02:49
Bateau_where does php get installed?02:49
dee_bob2: thank you very mich02:49
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bob2Bateau_: dpkg -L whateverpackagename02:49
[LethAL] da_bon_bon, good luck :P02:49
da_bon_bon[LethAL] : hehe .. i wont actually upgrade02:50
da_bon_bonjust try02:50
[LethAL] Hehe02:50
dee_nano? is that for breezy?02:50
gfxstylerno it should work with hoary too02:50
Whistlerdee_ nano is txt editor02:50
dee_oh ok thanks gfxstyler02:50
gfxstyleror use vim or gedit or anything else02:50
da_bon_bonwha!02:50
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dee_thanks for the info Whistler , sorry im a newbie sir02:50
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da_bon_boni enabled jsut the main repo02:51
da_bon_bonand it said no updates02:51
da_bon_bonwhat?!02:51
florianis it save to resize the ubuntu partition?02:51
Bateau_bob2: and what package is php?02:51
da_bon_boni did not enable multi and uni , but how its no updates ?!02:51
[LethAL] da_bon_bon, save :P02:51
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Whistlerdee_ try using gedit02:51
gfxstylerthen scroll down and then you will see the display resolution02:51
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Teloniri need to set up my adsl in ubuntu and the network-admin's buttons are all grey and it says failed to run network-admin as root02:51
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[LethAL] Telonir, did you do expert install?02:52
aftertafflorian:  if you know how to, yes, i think so. need to boot in maintenance and mount / readonly02:52
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da_bon_bonTelonir: did it ask for your user password ?02:52
Telonirhow to set up the connection manually? (what to write in provider file)02:52
Telonirno std install02:52
aftertafTelonir:  pppoe?02:52
Teloniryes02:52
aftertafeither run pppoeconf..... or download and complie rp-pppoe02:52
aftertafyou'll need the pppoe package installed too.02:53
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Telonir"download"02:53
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aftertafrp-pppoe will set your dls-provider file up correctly02:53
florianaftertaf, thanx, I think I will look for a howto for that02:53
Telonirpppd is there02:53
aftertafpppd is for dialup02:53
Teloniroh02:53
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Telonirso its rp-pppoe and pppoeconf?02:54
aftertafTelonir:  install pppoe package with your cd.02:54
Telonirk02:54
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Teloniri think it copied everithing to the hd02:54
lindt_f_25hi all02:54
aftertafTelonir:  this youll need to do anyway....., i recommend rp-pppoe cos pppoeconf borked my dsl file02:54
aftertaf!pppoe02:54
ubotuhmm... pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE02:54
gorillahi, has anyone got lxdoom to run on hoary? the ubuntuforums has the same problem but no solution.02:54
dee_after configuring xorg, do you have to restart or refresh?02:54
lindt_f_25i need help. i'm a first time linux user. i have windows xp, if i install ubuntu, will it automatically dual-boot?02:55
Telonirso i should run rp-pppoe02:55
Telonir?02:55
kbrooksdee_: ctrl+backspace should restart gnome02:55
aftertafTelonir:  my suggestion..... yes. but you need to d/l the tar file and compie it02:55
kbrooksbut you'l have to login02:55
da_bon_bonare there any changes ever made, between ubuntu rc and final ?02:55
lindt_f_25anyone?02:55
aftertafTelonir:  read this link02:55
Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: efectivly, yes02:55
aftertaf!pppoe02:55
ubotuwell, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE02:55
Telonirk02:55
Shin_Goukitopyli, so download of OO is finished... lets see now how good this works on /with ubuntu02:55
kbrooksda_bon_bon: might be02:56
locomortobai bai everyone02:56
kbrooksdepends02:56
dee_kbrooks...does not do anything02:56
da_bon_bonkbrooks: something like ? say, upgrade of a package ?02:56
lindt_f_25@Kamping_Kaiser, thanks! will it ask me how much diskspace to give ubuntu?02:56
da_bon_bonlindt_f_25: about 7gb02:56
dee_refresh is killall right?02:56
Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: you can set that during partitioning. i have never done it using teh partitioner, but youu can.02:56
da_bon_bonbut 4gb is fine also02:56
Kamping_Kaiserit needs 1.6 *minimum* pluss swap02:57
Kamping_Kaiserrecomend 5+02:57
da_bon_bondee_: define "refresh"02:57
lindt_f_25i see. do i need to partition first to install ubuntu, or ubuntu will auto-partition its default size for me?02:57
dee_refresh the updates after installing or configuring the system02:57
Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: it will resize windows partition to any size you tell it.02:57
da_bon_bonlindt_f_25: i think you can use the option "use the largest continous free space"02:58
Kamping_Kaiserim not sure about automagicaly resizing02:58
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lindt_f_25i see. does it ask the size when i install ubuntu?02:58
Kamping_Kaiser'ask the size'?02:58
da_bon_bonyes, lindt_f_2502:58
Bateau_how can i check what deps a package has?02:58
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Kamping_KaiserBateau_: apt-cache show $packager02:59
aftertafBateau_:  by doing apt-et install and seeing what it says.02:59
aftertaf^^ better ;)02:59
lindt_f_25i mean, does it say: "how much gigs of harddisk space to give ubuntu?"02:59
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:59
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aftertafpfff :p02:59
Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: yes, i believe so02:59
lindt_f_25ok, thanks da_bon_bon02:59
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lindt_f_25i see. alright thanks kamping_kaiser02:59
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lindt_f_25btw, is wine (winehq.org) good? or should i buy crossover?02:59
Kamping_Kaiser:0 thats ok03:00
tucozHi, I thought I ask here if you had reports on when not to update to breezy03:00
Kamping_Kaiserwine is good, just depends what you want to do03:00
da_bon_bonlindt_f_25: wine is good enough03:00
Kamping_Kaisertucoz: before the 13th03:00
Kamping_Kaiser:)03:00
lindt_f_25if for games. could i run half life 2 through wine?03:00
tucozor of it is rather safe to do it03:00
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da_bon_bonlindt_f_25: for games, use cedega03:00
Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: you would want cedega for that03:00
Bateau_im looking for the program php (as in the exe, or what ever) can anyone tell me where it is?03:00
[LethAL] !tell lindt_f_25 about cedega03:00
Kamping_Kaiserlol da_bon_bon, snap03:01
lindt_f_25what's cedega?03:01
Alex_BOHELLO!is there in ubuntu hoary a pascal compiler?03:01
HoxzerI guess it is no problem to install ubuntu to S-ata HDD?03:01
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[LethAL] lindt_f_25, read what ubotu sent you03:01
tucozKamping_Kaiser: I suppose there are a couple of people running breezy already03:01
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Kamping_Kaisertucoz: yeh, me03:01
da_bon_bonKamping_Kaiser: snap ?03:01
kbrookstucoz: i am too03:01
gfxstylerdoes anyone know why i only have a resolution of 1024x768 when i use the ati fglrx drivers? i already edited the xorg.conf file and there is only 1280x800 resolution, so i dont know why it does not work :/03:01
Grant_tucoz: and me :)03:01
Kamping_Kaiserda_bon_bon: we said the same thing at the same time., snap, like the card game :)03:01
lindt_f_25alright i'll check out the link. thanks!03:01
da_bon_bonlol, Kamping_Kaiser03:01
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tucozOk, sounds great. Did you update or did you make a clean install?03:02
FackamatoHeh.03:02
Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: what do you play?03:02
da_bon_bonFackamato: refugee from #debian :P03:02
tucozs/clean/fresh03:02
lindt_f_25cedega is commercial product. i can buy it or download its source code and compile it for free?03:02
Grant_tucoz: mine was a clean install03:02
lindt_f_25did i get that right?03:02
da_bon_bonlindt_f_25: not cedega03:02
lindt_f_25so if i know how to compile it, it's free for me to use cedega?03:02
Alex_BOhalo?anyone?03:02
kbrookstucoz: i updated from hoary (which was updated from warty)03:02
Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: i think you have to purchase03:02
kbrooksKamping_Kaiser: winecvs03:02
MaTaKswhats the next page shortcut keys on xchat03:03
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lindt_f_25but according to the 'acquiring cedega' section, it says: You can use a CVS version of cedega (this is free), instructions on how to install this are at  http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4503:03
Kamping_Kaiserkbrooks: ?03:03
tucozkbrooks: ah, cool. Wonder what I should do.03:03
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Kamping_Kaiseroh, ok. cool. *clicks*03:03
da_bon_bonlindt_f_25: thats not worth the effort. better .. ahem .. "buy" cedega membership, and get the debian package03:03
makuMaTaKs, <ctrl>+<pgDown>03:03
kbrooksda_bon_bon: um03:03
tucozLaptop support is enhanced in breezy, right?03:03
Kamping_Kaiserlol dbb03:03
lindt_f_25so no free way to play half life 2 in ubuntu?03:03
MaTaKsthnx03:03
maku:)03:04
kbrooksnot advised to mix debian and ubuntu03:04
Fackamatoda_bon_bon well yeah, some people in there seemed to have a lot of problems, so I think this channel is nicer, at least seems so. No one's telling you to fuck off (yet).03:04
Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: wine might03:04
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azeemFackamato: fuck off03:04
tucozhehe03:04
kbrooksdue to... *thinks of a word*03:04
[LethAL] Fackamato, fuck off03:04
[LethAL] :D03:04
kbrooksazeem: stop joking around ;)03:04
azeemFackamato: ;)03:04
lindt_f_25anyone got half life 2 working w/wine?03:04
da_bon_bonkbrooks: umm ?03:04
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lindt_f_25or windows version of doom 3 working w/wine?03:05
lindt_f_25splinter cell?03:05
Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: get the linux patch03:05
seethrulindt_f_25: theres a linux native client for doom303:05
da_bon_bonlindt_f_25: wait a sec .. i have little something for you.03:05
Kamping_Kaiserlol03:05
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seethrulindt_f_25: as for half-life 2, I've played it in cedega03:05
da_bon_bonlindt_f_25: http://www.linux-militia.net/howtos/doom3/doom3.html03:05
lindt_f_25yep, i know ther'es a linux client. just wanna ask if it's possible. how about splinter cell and half life 2?03:05
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Kamping_Kaiserhl2 in cedga, not yet in wine (soon i hear), not sure about splinter cell03:05
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seethrulindt_f_25: why bother emulating a windows environment to play a game that has a linux client?03:06
da_bon_bonFackamato: u use breezy ? clean install ?03:06
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Fackamatoda_bon_bon ya.03:06
da_bon_bonshould i download the breezy iso now, or wait for final ?03:06
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avalosti want to play delta force black hawk down03:06
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avalostthat game is more addictive than crack03:06
lindt_f_25seethru - that's only true w/doom3, how about half life 2? also, i bought doom 3 already (windows version)03:06
kbrooksda_bon_bon: you decide!03:06
da_bon_bonkbrooks: thats why i asked whether there are any changes between rc and final .. :)03:07
Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: the windows version only needs a patch from id, its no extra expence03:07
Kamping_Kaiseriirc03:07
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Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: there will never be HL2 native03:07
da_bon_bonvalve software sucks03:07
seethrulindt_f_25: you can only buy doom3 windows version, you just pull files off those cds to use with the doom3 client. As for Half-Life 2, it works in cedega.03:07
kbrooksda_bon_bon: there will be03:07
lindt_f_25i see. how about splinter cell and half life 2? anyone heard if it would work w/ubuntu (through a no-cost solution like wine)?03:07
StylusEater_Workanybody had any success with ndiswrapper and a broadcom chip?03:07
da_bon_bonkbrooks: what kin of changes ? BIG or minor bug fixes ?03:07
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Kamping_Kaiserda_bon_bon: no, valve is cool, but thier choise of API sucks :(03:07
gfxstylerStylusEater_Work: yes me03:08
da_bon_bonKamping_Kaiser: better way to put it :)03:08
lindt_f_25i see. half life 2 doesn't work w/wine03:08
kbrooksda_bon_bon: i'm not spoonfeeding you info ;)03:08
kbrooksda_bon_bon: read the mailing list03:08
StylusEater_Workawesome gfxstyler...I might "call on" you later03:08
da_bon_bonkbrooks: ok :)03:08
gfxstylernp03:08
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da_bon_bonmost probably not, lindt_f_2503:08
Kamping_Kaisernot yet it doesnt03:08
Kamping_Kaiserthey are working on it03:09
lindt_f_25so besides id games, most other later games can't be played through ubuntu w/out buying cedega? :(03:09
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Ngmost games can't be played through ubuntu at all. some play with cedega.03:09
Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: unreal tournament can, americas army03:09
da_bon_bonlindt_f_25: as i said, its not really necessary to buy.03:09
Kamping_Kaiserare 2 i know do work03:09
da_bon_bon;)03:09
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da_bon_bon*on03:09
lindt_f_25does warcraft 3 work w/wine?03:09
Kamping_Kaiserno (iirc)03:10
aburany one knows how to encode from WMA to FLAC without loosing metadata ?03:10
Kamping_Kaiser!wine03:10
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Kamping_Kaiserlol03:10
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Kamping_Kaiser!tell lindt_f_25 about wine03:10
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lindt_f_25warcraft 3 doesn't work with wine either? that's sad03:10
da_bon_bonlindt_f_25: dont be so hopeful. at some point, you most probably will need pirated software03:10
Kamping_Kaisercheck out the list of supported apps there lindt_f_2503:10
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surfacei guys03:11
[LethAL] lindt_f_25, you don't have to buy it03:11
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surfacei am using opera browser03:11
Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: no, its just teh easiest way to game03:11
surfacei was amazed that i type irc://irc.freenode.net03:11
surfacethe entire browser become irc chat client03:11
lindt_f_25hmm...cedega03:11
da_bon_bontheres a opera package in ubuntu ?03:11
surfaceand it was fast03:11
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surfacei think it support linux03:12
Kamping_Kaiserda_bon_bon: you can get it from their site03:12
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kbrooks!ops03:12
ubotuhmm... ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth03:12
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surface, not yet try on ubuntu yet03:12
Kamping_Kaiserlindt_f_25: google ;P03:12
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lindt_f_25kamping_kaiser - it's that easy to find cedega? whoa...03:12
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Kamping_Kaiserlol03:13
gfxstyleri fucking HATE the ati drivers!03:13
kbrooks!ops some people are discussing pirating03:13
ubotuokay, kbrooks03:13
holycowlindt_f_25, on the other hand, you may wish to consider buying it03:13
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da_bon_bonkbrooks: what bloody hell!03:13
Kamping_Kaiserholycow: we started there ;)03:13
da_bon_bonlindt_f_25: ahem.. i think my younger bro was fooling with irc03:14
holycowheh03:14
da_bon_boni had gone to pee :P03:14
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kbrookslindt_f_25: it's not a good idea to discuss pirating03:14
kbrooksda_bon_bon: well, you're responsible for your internet connection03:14
lindt_f_25oops. sorry. i was actually looking for a free way to play some windows games03:14
da_bon_bonkbrooks: ok. no need to get formal :P03:15
gfxstylercedega is fre03:15
da_bon_bonkbrooks: as if you dont use warez03:15
gfxstyler*free03:15
da_bon_bongfxstyler: what bloosy hell ?03:15
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gfxstylerits true03:15
da_bon_bons/s/d03:15
kbrooksgfxstyler: of course it's free03:15
gfxstylerif you compile it yourself03:15
lindt_f_25anyone know of a guide to compile cedega?03:15
gfxstylerdo a google search on "cedega cvs"03:15
HiddenFlydoes anyone here have any idea do these printers work on linux and are they any good, HP Photosmart 8050, Lexmark z615/p910?03:16
Kamping_KaiserHiddenFly: try linuxprinting.org03:16
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HiddenFlyKamping_Kaiser: i tried but any of those werent listed there03:16
Shin_Goukihi i downloaded: OOo_SRC680_m130_en-US_native_LinuxIntel_install_deb.tar.gz how to install now?03:16
Kamping_Kaiserat all? then its probably not03:16
kbrooksgfxstyler: yes thats true03:16
kbrookshowever03:17
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HobbseeShin_Gouki: extract it03:17
Shin_Goukikk03:17
surfacedid u guys heard about mono?03:17
Hobbseein kde there's a gui tool for it, not sure about gnome03:17
HiddenFlynope, tho for HP there were 8000 and 8100 models, so im looking at them03:17
kbrooksgfxstyler: they were talking about the binary cedega. thats all03:17
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HiddenFlydont think theres that much difference03:17
axlAre there gonna be a fix for eclipse-platform soon? My apt is broken due to this...03:17
gfxstylerkbrooks: oh, didnt knew that, sorry03:17
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kbrooksgfxstyler: scroll up03:18
HobbseeShin_Gouki: after that, go to gnome-terminal, cd DEBS03:18
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Shin_GoukiHobbsee , k im with03:19
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HobbseeShin_Gouki: then type "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"03:20
Hobbseewithout the quotes03:20
Shin_GoukiHobbsee ,if i want language pack ,install it now or later?03:20
mbpillaihow to change charecter set in console mode and locale03:20
Hobbseeinstall it now03:21
Hobbseeie extract it, cd to the folder it gets put in, then again "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"03:21
Shin_Goukiok03:22
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shermanwell, the breezy upgrade from hoary works...03:23
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patrik_hello?03:23
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shermanaside from the new kernel complaining about IRQ1503:23
shermanand shitting itself03:23
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shermanim currently running on hoary's vanilla kernel03:24
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Hobbseehi patrik_: if you have a questoin, state it03:24
shermanI love the new wallpaper03:24
sherman:P no question03:25
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BockBilbocan anyone tell me a good program to watch tv appart from mythtc?03:25
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BockBilbo*mythtv?03:25
N6REJback03:25
Hobbseesherman: yeah, i liked the look of it in screenshots too03:26
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N6REJI like the new boot screen for breezy :D03:26
shermansame03:26
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shermanubuntu has come a long way03:26
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shermanwell done all03:26
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Grant_BockBilbo: tvtime or xawtv03:26
Hobbseedefinetly, and kubuntu03:26
shermanyer03:26
crubeI want to get Ubuntu installed already.03:26
shermanthats running on my p4 next to me03:26
crubeBut I'm waiting for my new hardrive.03:27
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Hobbseecrube: you a linux newbie?03:27
crubeHobbsee no. Why?03:28
Hobbseeah ok, cos if you were, i would suggest installing anyway, so you could play around with it, seeing as most newbies will screw up their linux boxes03:28
Hobbseeat least once03:28
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Hobbseewhich would be an optimal time to switch to the new HD03:29
crubeHobbsee I have Ubuntu on my other computer. It's some old crap I use just for playing around and usually breaking things.03:29
Hobbseeah nice :P03:29
N6REJhobbsee, certianely nobody would do something as HORRIBLE as rm -f /etc/*.*03:29
surfaceguys03:30
N6REJthinkinkg your somewhere else03:30
HobbseeLOL03:30
Hobbseeyou've tried?03:30
surfacedid u heard about microsoft linux?03:30
MaTaKshow to know if your using ubuntu 5.4 or 5.1003:30
Hobbseeyou'd have to be sudo to do that03:30
N6REJsucceeded even03:30
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HobbseeMaTaKs: do you have a splash screen while booting up?03:30
N6REJthats the problem with being in god mode... you can't protect yourself from YOU LOL03:30
shermanMaTaKs, you should already know03:30
Hobbseelol...03:30
Hobbseeyeah, good reason to never log in as root03:31
N6REJyep03:31
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MaTaKsi upgrade to 5.10 and i am 5.4 before i want to check if its successful03:31
crubeI just realized I havent updated my other computer for like.... 2 months...03:31
egoleohello03:31
Hobbseewhat version of gnome are you running?03:31
egoleook03:31
Hobbseethat will tell you03:31
N6REJIt was a customers machine about 10 years ago and I was using RH 6.2 and had been at it for over 80 hours, and forgot I was in /etc when I said to delete the whole dang folder03:31
egoleoi really like breezy03:31
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Hobbseehehe oops you say!03:31
egoleoit seems so fast for me03:31
surfacehow to upgrade?03:32
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egoleoto what03:32
nochecitaserver libres.irc-hispano.org03:32
surfacefrom 5.04 to 5.1003:32
egoleosurface03:32
nochecitauy03:32
egoleook03:32
egoleogo to ue03:32
egoleor03:32
egoleosource.list03:32
Hobbseesurface: see topic03:32
egoleosudo /etc/apt/source.list03:32
shermanuh ohh03:32
Hobbsee!upgrade2breezy03:33
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:33
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shermanegoleo, dont put the source.list here...03:33
egoleoand change all occurance of hoary03:33
shermanthats better03:33
sherman:D03:33
egoleoto breezy03:33
N6REJlol that won't work.03:33
fishhow do i do a GUI kill (click the program to kill it)? I forgot how.03:33
surfaceoh thx03:33
shermanN6REJ, dont say that!03:33
Hobbseefish:03:33
surfacei will chec out the wiki now03:33
egoleoand then comment the first line which reads the cdrom03:33
Hobbseealt+f2 type xkill and click on offending window03:33
fishHobbsee: yes03:33
HobbseeZAP!03:33
egoleoafter that u do03:34
N6REJsherman: I meant if he did that at console... I have no clue what it would do here.03:34
egoleosudo apt-get update03:34
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egoleothen sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:34
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egoleohoola03:34
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egoleou are in breezy03:34
MaTaKswhats a GUI?03:34
fishHobbsee: the program won't die.03:34
egoleoso fast03:34
Hobbseewhich program?03:34
fishHobbsee: totemplayer03:34
Hobbseegraphical user interface03:34
MaTaKsah ok03:35
Hobbseeso xkill and clicking on it doesnt work03:35
crubeHobbsee you know, my girlfriend's using the other computer when she's here, and she's all pissed when I've broken something (as usual) Currently for example firefox can't log in anywhere :D Crashes everytime she tries :D03:35
egoleoX-window03:35
fishit doesn't work, Hobbsee03:35
Hobbseekillall totem03:35
surfaceok thanks egoleo03:35
Hobbseehehehehe @ crube03:35
surfacei try now03:35
egoleokill -KILL totem03:35
egoleou welcome surface03:35
fishHobbsee: killall totem worked.03:35
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Hobbseefish: :D03:35
egoleonautilius now a browser03:35
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MaTaKshow can i kill program that hangs.. like in windows ctrl+alt+del and endtask then choose running program to kill03:35
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fishegoleo: kill -KILL totem? does that command work?03:35
Hobbseeboth are pretty effective03:35
egoleoso great now03:36
HobbseeMaTaKs: alt+f2, type xkill03:36
fishHobbsee: how come that second command you gave worked, while the first didn't?03:36
egoleototem replaced with pid03:36
HobbseeMaTaKs: click on offending window03:36
egoleorather03:36
egoleosorry03:36
MaTaKsok thnx man03:36
egoleoand that should work03:36
fishegoleo: what's pid?03:36
Hobbseeum...dont know...03:36
egoleook03:36
egoleodo ps -ax03:36
egoleotype ps -ax03:37
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egoleoand check03:37
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Hobbseeeither one works, that's for sure!03:37
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egoleoat the terminal03:37
Shin_GoukiHobbsee ,i installed now language & "usual " packge... is OO now usable?03:37
egoleotype ps -ax03:37
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Hobbseeshould be, try it03:37
Hobbseedid you happen to get desktop shortcuts?03:38
fishegoleo:  i did. but what does Pid mean?03:38
Shin_GoukiHobbsee ,i use icewm03:38
zoot_anyone from the xfce package team here?03:38
crubeLinux users are so much more brutal. In windows you just kindly shut thing down, but if something hangs on linux it's killed. :D Sounds like German in the WW203:38
egoleoand then look at the PID which corresponse with totem03:38
naliothfish: process identifier03:38
egoleoprocess identity03:38
Grant_fish: its the id for a running program, you can kill programs using the PID instead of using the name03:38
Kamping_Kaisercrube: or we slay it :)03:38
fishegoleo: what do you mean by "totem replaced with pid"?03:38
Hobbseecrube: yeah, but linux actually shuts them down, rather than saying end now, doing nothing, and freezing the entire system03:38
surfacehaha crube, good imagination03:38
Hobbseei keep trying to use xkill in windows...03:38
Kamping_Kaiserthere also (iirc) was a masacre command03:38
zoot_crimsun: you here?03:38
egoleoPID ==> Process ID03:38
Hobbseeit never seems to work...03:38
Hobbsee:(03:38
egoleook03:39
egoleowhen u do ps -ax03:39
Kamping_Kaiserlol Hobbsee03:39
Grant_fish: say totem was running on pid 14322 instead of putting totem you would put 14322 which is it's pid03:39
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Shin_GoukiHobbsee ,i use icewm... no shortcuts... how do i start..?03:39
egoleolook for totem03:39
crubeHobbsee yeah, and Windows programs hang so often, that if windows users would start killing programs they'd all be in jail!03:39
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HobbseeShin_Gouki: you'll have to use the shell scripts for it03:39
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HobbseeLOL yeah..they do!03:39
egoleoand check it pid on the left of ur screen03:39
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zoot_any xfce users here, desparately need help re kiosk mode (ubuntu breezy)03:39
N6REJok, way I see it there is still a  bug in breezy..... in server mode install it never asks for the domain name :(03:39
Hobbseei cant stand it!03:39
egoleou would see it03:39
Shin_GoukiHobbsee ,from usr/bin?03:39
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Hobbseeah yeah, that should be where it is03:39
fishegoleo: i still don't know why you offered "kill -KILL totem"?03:39
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egoleoi said its wrong to bring totem03:40
TvHello. Is there a nice way to create an ubuntu chroot under debian, like debootstrap?03:40
egoleoit should be kill -KILL PID03:40
fishguys, is there a website for gimp like http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/videotips/#?03:40
Khantozavrihi folks... simple question....03:40
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egoleoso u replace the PID with the correct one03:40
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Kamping_Kaiseranyway, ill be back in the chan later perhaps (but im still around). doing some bug searching in the breezy doco03:40
Shin_GoukiHobbsee ,hm... plz guide me to a place were i may find the OO executables..?03:40
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Kamping_KaiserShin_Gouki: try /usr/bin/03:40
fishthat website has videos of how to do specific things with Photoshop elements03:41
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Khantozavridoes it make any sense to use smp kernel with hyperthreading?03:41
Shin_GoukiKamping_Kaiser, im in in but there is no: calc, or write, or do i have to look for oo-calc?03:41
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naliothKhantozavri: yes it does03:41
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Hobbseeif you open a word doc, then write will open03:41
Hobbseehang on a sec...this might help03:41
steve_donKhantozavri: I do and it recognises it as 2 processors whether there is any speed increase i dont know03:42
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ratahi03:42
Hobbseetry ooffice2 -writer03:42
Khantozavrihow do i know if it does recognise my hyperthreading?03:42
Shin_Gouki-bash: ooffice2: command not found03:42
ratathere is a dpkg-reconfigure <something> to reconfigure gdm ?03:42
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TiMiDorata do gdmconf03:43
TiMiDoas root03:43
rataKhantozavri, cat /proc/cpui03:43
steve_donKhantozavri: it will show up in the gnome system monitor03:43
rataKhantozavri, cat /proc/cpuinfo03:43
rataTiMiDo, thanks03:43
Hobbseedarn03:43
Khantozavrithanks a lot, buddies... :)03:43
Shin_GoukiKamping_Kaiser, Hobbsee i found 2 files in use/bin:03:43
Hobbseethey'd probably help03:44
rataTiMiDo, it does not exist that command03:44
Shin_GoukiKamping_Kaiser, openofficeadmin, openoffice.org1.903:44
rataTiMiDo, and gdmsetup tries to open an X display03:44
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Khantozavrithat's greay, but what about speed wise? I sort of think that smp kernel isn't really working for me, I get some hangouts, and need to restart and stuff... :(03:45
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Shin_GoukiHobsee, King_Kaiser : those areopenoffice.org-1.903:45
Shin_Goukiopenoffice.org-1.9-printeradmin03:45
Hobbseetry openoffice.org-1.903:46
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Hobbseebut what type of file are they?03:46
Shin_Goukihaha03:46
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Shin_Goukicould not find java03:46
Hobbseedo you have java installed?03:46
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Shin_Goukino03:46
Hobbseewell that might explain why you cant find it then03:46
Hobbseecan it just ignore the lack of java?03:46
steve_donKhantozavri: Ive been using the smp kernel for a while now havent been any problems with it03:46
Shin_Goukiyep it does it :)03:47
Hobbseeoh good!03:47
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telonirhow can i get gnome switch desktop when i drag a window 'over the edge' of the current desktop?03:47
egoleois anyone using irda with ubuntu03:48
N6REJwahooooo!!!!!!!! installed first try03:48
naliothubotu: tell Shin_Gouki about javadeb03:48
N6REJnow to try to get the desktop on it just in case I want it.03:48
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N6REJapt-get install ubuntu-desktop right?03:48
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Shin_GoukiHobbsee, im on the isntaller now :) HOORAY :D03:49
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Hobbseeyay!03:49
egoleoinfra red with ubuntu03:49
KlinkMeisterI am having a problem playing java enabled games anyone have any ideas?03:49
Hobbseedo you have java installed?03:49
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KlinkMeisteryes03:49
egoleodo u have jre03:49
egoleoor jdk03:49
KlinkMeisteri downloaded and installed the packages03:50
ubuntuloveryou can get it from the synaptic03:50
egoleoso check which one03:50
Hobbseenight all...03:50
egoleois it the jre03:50
KlinkMeisterok ty03:50
egoleoor the jdk03:50
Khantozavrithanks folks.... enjoy ubuntu :)03:50
surfacehaih, my line slow03:50
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surfacei ll be update tomorro i go to my uni03:51
egoleosurface03:51
egoleohow far03:51
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maxmouseanyone know where i can get themes for the greeter?03:52
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enodevmaxmouse: art.gnome.org03:53
apocxphttp://art.gnome.org/03:53
maxmousethanks :)03:53
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PieDHi03:54
telonirwhats the autostart dir in gnome?03:54
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PieDI've got a problem with my laptop on breezy03:54
PieDthat's an Acer aspire 1692 wlmi03:54
PieDand the battery isn't working03:54
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akutbiNeed help with ubunto03:54
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egoleook03:55
egoleowhat help03:55
PieDa website (http://www.aalbiol.upv.es/ACER.html) shows me that it can be solved by a new DSDT03:55
egoleowhether i can hel03:55
PieDso I downloaded and compiled one from acpi.sf.net03:55
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PieD(the one for my laptop)03:55
makuPieD, means? the battery ststus is not working or the battery has dried out?03:55
akutbiDoes ubunto come with development pkg?03:55
cantrel29hello I am running breezy and trying to get subverion up and running. I have followed the instructions on the wiki and when I go to localhost/faq I get: D:error>03:55
cantrel29<C:error/>03:55
cantrel29<m:human-readable errcode="13">03:55
cantrel29Could not open the requested SVN filesystem03:55
cantrel29</m:human-readable>03:55
PieDI can't get informations about the battery03:55
cantrel29</D:error>03:55
PieDI don't know whether it's full or empty and so on03:55
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egoleoyes03:56
egoleolike which one03:56
PieDI installed the new DSDT following the instructions of the Wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ACPIBattery)03:56
cantrel29You should note that I adjusted the paths in the tutorial to point to /home/svn/faq/03:56
PieDand yet, when I reboot the computer, it's stopping on "loading ACPI modules"03:56
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rawiramdhanI try to tar a  .tar.bz2 file, with tar xwfz but it asks for everey image to extract03:56
rawiramdhanextract `Orange-Rounded2/metacity-1/menu4.png'?03:56
PieDI edited the script to show its progression03:56
makuPieD, i have toshiba laptop, just booting with default config shows battery status :)03:56
PieDand I see it's freezy on loading ac module03:56
akutbiI am trying to install nVidia GForce FX 5500 and it is asking me about "ld"03:57
PieDmaku: and ?03:57
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PieDwhat is the ac module useful for ?03:57
Shin_GoukiHobbsee, OO is workin now i thanku sooo much!! :D03:57
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rawiramdhanI try to tar a  .tar.bz2 file, with tar xwfz but it asks for every image to extract03:57
rawiramdhanextract `Orange-Rounded2/metacity-1/menu4.png'?03:57
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akutbiwhat is "ld" and from whare can I install it?03:58
makuPieD, my toshiba aslo hangs with live cd while loading modules (at 98%), but things work fine in install cd03:58
Ngrawiramdhan: take the w out then03:58
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HoxzerIs it just the same do I install ubuntu to S-ata HDD or IDE?03:58
Ngrawiramdhan: tar's -w option means "ask for confirmation for every action"03:58
Ngrawiramdhan: see "man tar" :)03:58
rawiramdhanN03:59
rawiramdhanthanx03:59
rawiramdhanworked:)03:59
rawiramdhanI read the man tar:S but couldn;t find the problem03:59
ubuntuloverwhy "make" wine so slowly?03:59
rainerhi, is there a way to boot breezy with DMA for the drive it's booting from enabled? that might help bug 16901, I found a lot of knoppix users having similar symptoms and enabling (yes, enabling, not disabling :) solved it03:59
naliothbrb04:00
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akutbihelp04:01
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wickedpuppypls ask akutbi04:01
akutbiI am trying to install nVidia graphics driver but it is asking me for "ld"04:01
ubuntuloverI'v make for half an hour04:02
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akutbiwhat is "ld" and from where I can get it04:02
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wickedpuppyld04:02
dipnlikhi all04:03
dipnlikTo install java, instructions on the wiki tell to install java-package, but the package doesn't exist04:03
akutbias I read from the net it is an object linker04:03
wickedpuppyakutbi: ld is a linker04:03
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wickedpuppyyes04:03
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wickedpuppysudo apt-get install ld will do04:03
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makuman ld says "ld  combines  a  number of object and archive files, relocates their data and ties up symbol04:04
maku       references. Usually the last step in compiling a program is to run ld."04:04
dipnlikwhere can i find the java-package package?04:04
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wickedpuppyperhaps you might as well get build-essential04:04
N6REJsince it didn't ask for the domain name when I installed, how can I tell it now so that postfix and everything knows.  Just adding it to /etc/hosts doesn't do it does it?04:04
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wickedpuppydipnlik: its in synaptic search for java04:04
steve_dondipnlik: the package is in the multiverse repos04:04
wickedpuppyN6REJ: /etc/hostname04:05
wickedpuppymy hostname is defined there04:05
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kbrookshmm04:05
akutbiit sayed: "E: Couldn't find package ld"04:05
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N6REJwickedpuppy: tnx, its been a while.  I wasn't sure if that was the only place.  Seems to me I had to put it several places in the old days.04:06
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golma?04:06
golma04:06
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wickedpuppynp :P04:06
telonirshould i update from within X?04:06
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golmahihi04:06
teloniror exit and use apt get?04:06
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wickedpuppygolma hi04:06
dazzednew kernel release eh04:06
N6REJwell, bedtime.... y'all have a great one.. b back t/m04:06
golmahi :)04:06
wickedpuppynite N6REJ04:07
steve_dontelonir:you can update from within x no problems04:07
SyrussIn /etc/sudoers, I have %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL to allow members of the group wheel to be able to sudo. How can I make it prompt for their password when they try to sudo?04:07
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dipnlikmultivers04:07
dipnlikmultiverse04:07
akutbiFrom where i can find ld04:08
wickedpuppySyruss: sudo is supposed to ask for password when they sudo04:08
akutbiI did give it the password04:08
wickedpuppyakutbi: sudo apt-get install ld04:08
steve_donakutbi: what happens when you do enter 'which ld' at the command line04:08
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akutbiReading package lists... Done04:09
akutbiBuilding dependency tree... Done04:09
akutbiE: Couldn't find package ld04:09
rawiramdhanwhere is the default gtk-theme-switch map?04:09
Syrusswickedpuppy, it's not though, this is breezy badger04:09
naliothakutbi: please dont paste in here04:09
dazzedbreezy is so much better than warty04:09
dazzedhoary*04:10
dazzedwarty was the best(04:10
SyrussI just don't know the syntax for sudoers04:10
SyrussI've been using gentoo for about 2/3 months04:10
Syrussit's better in a few ways04:10
Syrussbut worse in others04:10
dazzedi want to get onto gentoo or slacks04:10
Syrusshmm04:10
wickedpuppySyruss: if you had done sudo properly ... ubuntu comes with a default sudo on users so there is no excuse ... nothing will do wrong04:11
Syrusswell gentoo is definitely better if you're playing around with the kernel etc..much simpler in that respect04:11
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dazzedSyruss: i use fluxbox talk about simple04:11
Syrusswickedpuppy, from that response I take it you don't know the answer to my question ;)04:11
Syrussfluxbox is horrible :p04:11
dazzedi love it :)04:11
SyrussI tried out E1704:12
raineris there a boot option like "linux dma" to get breezy install cd booting with DMA enabled for the CD drive?04:12
Syrussthat's pretty cool04:12
wickedpuppySyruss: perhaps .. to me sudo is sudo ... just add the group and thats all there to it04:12
dazzedi used blackbox for windows when i was on windows and thats what introduced me to linux so its how i associate it04:12
dazzedi love it04:12
Syrussheh04:12
SyrussI love gnome04:12
dazzedgnome is nice04:12
SyrussIt's one of the main reasons I'm using breezy badger instead of gentoo04:12
Syrussgentoo is nowhere near ready for gnome 2.1204:13
dazzedcant use gnome on gentoo?04:13
Syrussyes04:13
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dazzedgotcha04:13
Syrussit's just it's at 2.10 unless you wasn't to break your gentoo04:13
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dazzedlol04:13
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dazzedi hope this new kernel update helps with my lockups04:13
dazzeddamn in hoary they were so bad...unexistent in warty now in breezy much better04:14
rodjwhich engine makes the progress bar moves (like in osx) on ubuntu (with ubuntu's default theme)?04:14
jwdwhats the command to configure X using Ubuntu04:14
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Syrussdazzed, you shouldn't get kernel lockups04:14
wickedpuppyjwd : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:14
telonirupgrade X from within X?04:15
jwdgracia04:15
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jwd s04:15
jwd:-)04:15
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wickedpuppythere will be error if you do it in X of course04:15
telonirbut that what the update progie does04:15
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Mateo_Plop all04:16
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telonirscary04:16
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telonirare you sure its ok to use the update progie from within X?04:16
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steve_dontelonir: yep how else would you use synaptic to update/upgrade :)04:17
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telonirapt - get ?04:17
steve_dontelonir: same with apt-get can do it from x without any problems04:18
zkmasterHi all, I need help connecting my wireless pc card to my network04:18
telonirstill scary.04:18
telonirwriting over files that might be in use04:18
ubuntuloverhello,I'm chinese.I love ubuntu04:19
zkmasterMy card is on the supported cards list04:19
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Gwildortelonir, they arent really "in use" like they were in wondows.............04:19
steve_dontelonir: I am sure that apt-get deals with that I do it all the time and I have never had a problem04:19
jwdyeah I ma new to Ubuntu so whats the difference between apt-get and dpkg04:19
teloniris there an advantage to using the i686 kernel over 386?04:19
BockBilboanyone here has tried the mythtv package from ubuntu? does it work?04:20
Gwildorjwd, apt-get grabs the .deb's from the repo, and then used Dpkg to install them04:20
BockBilbo*ubuntu breezy04:20
steve_dontelonir: if the app thats upgraded is running you will have to restart it to get the new version04:20
dipnlikjwd: apt-get is automagic04:20
jwdwhere will apt-get put them?04:20
jwd:-)04:20
Gwildorjwd, a temp dit i believe04:20
Gwildordir04:20
dipnlikjwd: downloads in a temp, installs and removes04:20
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zkmasteranyone here have expereince setting up a wireless nic with ubuntu?04:20
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jwd. /var/cache/apt/archives04:21
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telonirwill deborphan work in ubuntu? or is there a substitute?04:21
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jwdso dpkg -i *.deb04:22
jwdor whatever .deb file04:22
jwdI meant04:22
naliothtelonir: deborphan and debfoster are both available04:22
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telonirwhich is better?04:22
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ubuntuloverwhich edition can I install ,my GPU is Gforce 2 pro04:22
Gwildorjwd, yes <sudo dpkg -i foo.deb>04:22
dipnlikjwd: the temp is something like /var/cache/apt/something...04:22
telonirsudo sh :)04:22
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Syrussfixed, I was in the sudo group for some reason04:23
Syruss:p04:23
telonirgot used to su04:23
jwdyeah I found it04:23
eeaaxxanybody knows how to manually download apt-get upgrades?04:23
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Gwildoreeaaxx, apt-get upgrade04:23
nrbqhowdy04:23
eeaaxxGwildor: yes, i've done that. but im on a dial-up connection04:23
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Gwildoreeaaxx, you lost me..........04:24
telonirits only 200mb04:24
jwdthnx Gwildor04:24
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nrbqis there a keyboard sequence to access the footprint menu (or the others for that matter)?04:24
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jwdya know its nice going to a channel where everyone isn't so snotty04:24
teloniryou can set a shortkey04:24
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jwd:-)04:24
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eeaaxxGwildor: ok. i wanna download updates without using apt-get04:24
Gwildorjwd, dont even bother to enter #debian then........04:24
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kbrooksSNOTTY?04:25
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kbrookssnotty?04:25
kbrooksdefine!04:25
nrbqjwd, yeah, no doubt04:25
Prokodoes anyone already succeed in compiling puredata on ubuntu ?04:25
zoot_any xfce users here? need help with kiosk mode - thx04:25
jwdyeah you guys are great04:25
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nrbqzoot_, sorry, can't help there04:25
jwdI wasn't being sarcastic if thats what you think04:25
nrbqjwd, I know what you mean04:26
Gwildoreeaaxx, yes, still, im unsure why, if i were you, i would disable all fo the repos, except 1, then update that one.....then diable it, and update another one.................can easily remove them via synaptic, or edit your sources.list04:26
kbrooksdefine snotty?04:26
zoot_nrbq: thx04:26
Gwildorkbrooks, #debian04:26
nrbqwhen I first started with IRC about 6 or so years ago it seemed populated by too many people with big brains and little winkies04:26
occynrbq, heh04:26
nrbq;)04:26
Ngnrbq: and you're happy now that it's full to the brim with idiots? ;)04:27
nrbqhehe, uh.....I didn't exactly mean that04:27
nrbq;)04:27
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nrbqjust nicer people here is all04:27
Nghehe04:27
ProkoI know that it is possible to install puredata with the apt-get tool on a debian, but not with ubuntu, anyone can help me ?04:27
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eeaaxxGwildor: ok. because my connection is only 56k. thanks04:27
nrbqI've yet to have anyone take my head off for asking something they *think* I ought to already know04:27
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telonirso should i get the i686 kernel?04:28
raydedoes anybody here use afio??04:28
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nrbqProko, what's puredata?04:28
telonir686 will use sse/sse2 ?04:28
GwildorProko, you could add the debian repo that it is available in, im not sure if that is supported by ubuntu or not, or you could also stop by packages.debian.org, and manual DL it from there, install via dpkg04:28
naliothnickrud: wakey wakey04:28
nrbqoh, back to my question04:28
nrbq:)04:28
nrbqis there a keyboard sequence to bring up the footprint menu (as well as the others)?04:29
Prokosure, via dpkg, it might work04:29
Prokoi will try04:29
naliothGwildor: debian binaries are not good to recommend. better to advise debian source repos and have apt-get build the package from source04:29
zkmasterI'm having trouble setting up my wireless NIC - My card is supported, and Its active under the networking settings. I have entered the WEP key, but it doesn't seem to be getting an IP address. Any ideas?04:29
squid0nrbq: have a look at System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcurs04:29
squid0*Shortcuts04:30
nrbqsquid0, thanks04:30
nrbqon my way04:30
squid0nrbq: no prob. let me know04:30
Prokonalioth , someone told me not to use debian repos in my sources.list, so ....04:30
Gwildornalioth, ok, i will ry to remember that.........as i have stated before, i havent used ubuntu since jsut after the first release....when they were a little more firendly with debian04:30
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Colloidis there better wireless support with 5.10?04:30
Gwildornalioth, still not advised or supported..........but worked......04:30
Colloidmy card (ra2500-compatable) doesn't work all too good04:30
nickrudnalioth, hello04:30
naliothProko: Gwildor the current ubuntu is not very binary compatible with debian04:30
Gwildornalioth, so i have read.........forkers :P04:31
naliothGwildor: Proko: however, using debian source repos and having apt-get build your pkgs is ok04:31
Prokowhich means nalioth ?04:31
naliothnickrud: howdy04:31
Gwildornalioth, JJ04:31
Prokonope nalioth , i tried, and I get an error message aimed at public key signature .04:32
httpdssColloid: what brand do you use ???04:32
naliothProko: that won't keep you from using the repos for software, just gives you msgs04:32
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LokeDKtmpfs                 253M   13M  240M   5% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/volatile04:32
LokeDK < what's this? never seen it.. must be something new04:32
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Whistleris it possible to unmount swap partition?04:32
LazyAngelWhistler: have you tried umount?04:33
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Prokoso, I do not to care about that kind of message. Am I right nalioth ?04:33
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nickrudWhistler, swapon and swapoff; never done it myself04:33
GwildorWhistler, HEY, GL man.........i would recommend offering details on what you are trying to do, other thean gettign help on jsut a specific step, as there may be a "better" approach04:33
nrbqsquid0, thanks - I'll need to think how I want to work this. Excellent starting point. :)04:34
Whistlerk04:34
naliothProko: the software will still install04:34
squid0nrbq: i'm glad :)04:34
Prokook04:34
naliothProko: but you may b0rk your system04:34
Whistleri want to resize my partition04:34
squid0nrbq: just set mine to use the Start key.04:34
LazyAngelwhat raid type is the fastest? (for swap partition)04:34
GwildorWhistler, are you trying to make roo for a DSL install?04:35
Gwildorroom04:35
Whistleryep04:35
Whistler:)04:35
Violence^guys is it meant to stay on "starting PC card services" 98% for ages ?04:35
Gwildor.   /msg me04:35
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nrbqsquid0, start key? I don't have one on this laptop (do I?)04:35
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LazyAngelViolence^: if you have a very slow machine :P04:35
Violence^its 2ghz04:36
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Violence^1024ram04:36
squid0nrbq: ok, whatever. I'm using a Windows keyboard. use what you want04:36
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djbrieckHow do i know if my harware has aprpopriate drivers, eg graphics card04:36
squid0nrbq: ie. the Windows logo key. most keyboards have it. ??04:36
nrbqsquid0, sorry, I meant is the Windows key the start key? I still get confused04:36
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nrbqOh, ok - whew! Felt like I was having another of my moron moments (they are too frequent to count)04:37
squid0nrbq: yes, you're right. i was unclear.04:37
djbriecki notice when I move mindows cpu goes to 100% , so that must mean no graphics card driver04:37
nrbqThanks - Just mapped the sam04:37
nrbqsame04:37
nrbqhow cool is that?04:37
httpdssdjbrieck: checking on logs, maybe .. or dmesg ...04:37
nrbq:)04:37
squid0nrbq: great.04:37
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squid0:_04:37
squid0nrbq: oops. that should have been :)04:37
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Prokook thanks all ones04:38
dazzedso hows everyone doing today04:38
Prokobye04:38
nrbqsee, this is what I was meaning - just nice folks04:38
nrbqin the old RedHat channel I would have had my head handed to me by now!04:38
nrbqHahaha!!!!04:38
squid0nrbq: LLL : live & let live04:38
djbrieckis the device manger of any use04:38
squid0;)04:38
Prokothanks nalioth , it worked via a deb file, using dpkg04:38
Prokosee u soon04:39
dazzednrbq: it gets to be like that sometimes :)04:39
crimsunzoot_: yes?04:39
dazzedanyone know the path to evolution in breezy cus its not the same04:40
httpdssdazzed: /usr/bin/evolution04:40
httpdss??04:40
steve_dondazzed: you mean to the binary try which evolution04:41
antrixHow do I know whether the Ubuntu kernel has a certain patch or not? I am specifically looking for a trackpoint patch04:41
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cantrel29hello I am running breezy and trying to get subverion up and running. I have followed the instructions on the wiki and when I go to localhost/faq I get: D:error>04:41
er4z0rhow can I install the prior version of a certain package with apt?04:41
dazzedsteve_don: i get nothing returned04:41
nrbqdazzed, well, I'm still very new to Ubuntu (about day 4 for me) and I've been super impressed by everything04:41
cantrel29Could not open the requested SVN filesystem04:41
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dazzedlike its not installed04:41
Sn00ZeAnybody would know how to get the status of a service (ie. POP, FTP, HTTP) [not only running or not]  like if there is any problems?04:41
dazzedbut i know it is04:41
nrbqThe people, the OS, the ease of use, the level of help, apt-get04:41
nrbqyou name it!04:41
nrbqI'm trying to sell my wife on it - :)04:42
Whistlernrbq i really liked the community04:42
kbrooksheh, nrbq04:42
kbrooks;)04:42
nrbqwe'll see where that gets me04:42
squid0nrbq: i'm loving it too!04:42
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er4z0rplease help :(04:42
nrbqhey, kbrooks04:42
kbrooksnrbq: _to_ it ;)04:42
nrbqWhistler, yeah, absolutely04:42
httpdssdazzed: "whereis evolution"04:42
kbrooksnot _on_ it ;)04:42
nrbqkbrooks, haha04:42
nrbqyou really can't beat this OS04:42
Whistlernrbq nobody calls you lame here, and everybody is so helpfull04:42
Whistlercool04:43
Whistler:)04:43
nrbqOk, if you need to do heavy music processing or something like that, I can see why Linux isn't quite there yet04:43
dazzednevermind it wasnt installed04:43
squid0nrbq: i don't know so much04:43
kbrooksWhy?04:43
steve_dondazzed: lol :)04:43
dazzedlol i feel retarted now04:43
cantrel29er4z0r:have you tried apt-get install [package-verson] 04:43
nrbqWhistler, yeah, I've noticed that. With the other channels I used to use there was just one long rant and slander all the time04:43
dazzedit was on hoary but since i updated must have gotten mixed up04:43
steve_dondazzed: at least you learnt how to search for programs :)04:43
nrbqsquid0, I'm still learning tons - all the time - and that ain't saying much, trust me!04:44
squid0nrbq: there are some good music programs out for linux, i hear04:44
DocTomoeHm, i have a problem installing java. I got the current JDK at sun, and followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (the fakeroot way). However, "fakeroot make-jpkg jdk[...] .bin" tells me that "no plugin was found". Can someone please assist me?04:44
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dazzedsteve_don: well i have known usually i grep for things04:44
nrbqI got so tired of all the bickering I left IRC about 3 years ago and only came back when I got Ubuntu04:44
naliothubotu: tell DocTomoe about javadeb04:44
nrbqsquid0, yeah I was looking at 3 yesterday04:44
cybermikeHow do i install ubuntu onto a raid1 software array?04:44
zoot_crimsun: hi, u still there?04:44
dazzedsteve_don: thats why i was just wondering where it was so i could test it manually04:44
er4z0rcantrel29: I dont know, its not me who tries it but a colleague of min04:44
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nrbqThey look like they are pretty good, but there are config issues that I'm just not patient enough to resolve04:44
nrbqproblems between oss/alsa/jack etc.04:45
squid0nrbq: i've also had a bit of a hard time with those04:45
nrbqI reckon I'll just dual boot and do all the music stuff with CoolEdit and Cubase and everything else with Ubuntu04:45
nrbqSweep looks like a good alternate for CoolEdit, but I'll be damned if I could get it to work04:45
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nrbqIt loads fine, but just plays a hiss when I give it a sound file04:46
squid0DocTomoe: just make the .bin executable (enable execute permissions) and then run it04:46
nrbqok - gotta go04:46
jwdwhen I reboot I have no connectivity until I type dhclient04:46
nrbqthanks again to everyone04:46
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nrbqy'all take it easy04:46
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jwdhow cna I get that to to automaticazlly04:46
DocTomoesquid0: it is executable, but it won't install04:47
telonirupdatein 427 packages. its insane04:47
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r0xoRtelonir, not as insane as the 966 updates in fedora04:47
telonirdidnt have 966 in fedora04:47
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Lickeranyone here?04:48
r0xoRno04:48
LickerYES!04:48
telonirdont think i had that much installed04:48
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r0xoRtelonir, well there are 966 packages in updates atm04:48
teloniri need to slim down ubuntu04:48
cantrel29er4z0r: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo04:48
r0xoRof course they don't all get installed04:48
kbrookstelemaco: updates/additions04:48
telonirfix the installer04:48
LickerIm having some probs. My ubuntu sees my 2 network cards but it says it cant configure the network. Any ideas?04:48
telonirit should ask you what you want04:48
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squid0DocTomoe: go to the directory where it is situated, then type ./path/to/the/jdk.bin04:49
telonirwhat i usually do is install base from cd and the rest from theweb- no updates needed04:49
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squid0DocTomoe: but i think it may install in that directory04:49
telonirfix it!04:49
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DocTomoesquid0: that would install, right, but I need the package, not a bruteforced install04:49
squid0so make sure it is where you want it to be installed.... (??)04:49
Hendriccan anyone help me to remove PASSWORD AUTHENTICATION on samba sharing????04:50
DocTomoesquid0: other packages depend on this one04:50
djbrieckwhere are log at in general /...04:50
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telonirroot is disabled right?04:50
Whistlerwill ubuntu still work if i remove my home partition?04:50
telonirwhy remove it?04:50
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squid0DocTomoe:  i don't quite understand what you want04:50
WinZare anybody using Opera 8.50?04:51
liran_i've got access (developer) to a sourceforge project, how can i upload files/change documentation etc...?04:51
Whistleri am04:51
pl_icehi04:51
telonirWinZ, use firefox04:51
WinZtelonir, it's very slow :(04:51
emilethe post-update information light bolt keept coming back on my breezy laptop, even after rebooting and after deleting ~user/.update-notifier/* any clues how to fix this?04:51
LickerI am having trouble setting up my network can someone help please?04:51
squid0telonir: i'm all for FX, but why not opera?04:51
telonirno its not04:51
DocTomoesquid0: with fakeroot, you can get JDK packaged to a nice .deb ... and this is the way I need JDK04:51
telonirstartup is slow04:51
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WinZtabs are slow04:51
pl_iceany one got really old PC ? ??04:51
WinZ3-4 sec04:52
teloniractually never usedit04:52
teloniropera has tabs?04:52
WinZyes04:52
squid0telonir: it is very cool. and yes04:52
pl_iceLicker , what u doing?04:52
Whistlerwill ubuntu still work if i remove my home partition? I need to create a new partition out of it04:52
squid0DocTomoe: i haven't used fakeroot before.04:52
telonirwell maybe i will try opera. fx is eating up memory when you have many tabs :(04:52
WinZso.. have anybody installed a flash plugin in opera?04:53
pl_icehey, i got really old laptop and under console, all my long names files are cut, eg conf~1 , and i can't install none ...:(04:53
ElkOSany1 have experience with connecting to a f5 networks sslbox?04:53
WinZtelonir, http://tinypic.com/easaj9.png (i'm russian :) )04:53
Whistlerwill ubuntu still work if i remove my home partition? I need to create a new partition out of it04:53
telonirand wont release most of it after you close the tabs04:53
squid0telonir: i am a dedicated fan of FF, but i find opera to be much faster and quite slick04:53
telonirflash/ mplayer-plugin work in opera?04:53
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LickerI am putting ubuntu on a second pc. Now, my problem is that it tries to Auto-Config my network then returns an error saying my network might not be using DHCP.  It sees my 2 network cards just cant configure them.  Are they bad? Am i doing something wrong?04:54
WinZflash is working, but i don't know how to setup it :)04:54
telonirso it doesnt work?(but should)?04:55
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WhistlerLicker dont be scared04:55
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pl_iceLicker, i always configured my via /etc/network/interfaces not gui etc. and there cards, u sure linux can recognise them ? ... it's not wless is it?04:55
WinZtelonir, yes04:55
Whistleryou can configure them later04:55
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WinZtelonir, it shows that the flash plugin is installed, but doesn't plays movies04:56
LickerNo its not wireless. Im not sure if Linux can rec. them . I just know it tells me what is in slot 1 and 2.04:56
LickerI dont know how to configure it through anything else...  :/04:56
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tosh54where can i find a beta/devel version of ubuntuguide for breezy?04:56
pl_iceLicker , u using DHCP?04:56
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telonirbye04:57
Whistlertosh54 ?04:57
pl_icebye04:57
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Lickerpl_ice: I dont even know WTF that is. lol.04:57
tritium_tosh54: the documentation team is working on official docs for breezy, rather than ubuntuguide04:57
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tosh54tritium, ah ok.04:57
pl_iceLicker , hm.... are u trying to connect with these cards(or one of them to the internet or lan etc?04:58
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Lickerpl_ice: yes04:58
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Lickerpl_ice: should I just finish the install then go back and configure them?04:58
kbrooks!ubuntuguide04:58
ubotuI guess ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.04:58
telonir_faq all04:58
tosh54!faq04:58
ubotufaq is probably The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/04:58
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telonir_sounds bad04:59
pl_iceLicker  hey, i didn't tell me u're just installing it :) that's at the begining of installation??04:59
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Lickerpl_ice: lol. i tried to say taht up top. Yea im just installing it to my second PC.04:59
ElkOSis activeX supported with any browser in linux?05:00
BrondomanMorning (at  least in the US).  Question/problem:  With the 5.10 releases I'm having a bugger of a time installing on my two systems.  One is a home built with an Airlink (atheros) wireless card, the other a Dell 9300 laptop.  On my homebuilt it cannot find the nic.  On the dell it bombs with an error when it goes to install the base system stating it cannot find the CD drive any longer (it's a DV05:00
BrondomanD for what it;s worth).  On the hedghog release, it would install like a champ on both.  Any ideas?05:00
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pl_iceLicker , u have to find out where u trying to connect to the internet, eg. what IP can your pc have, gateway netmask, and DNS server, then when it says can't use DHCP, configure it manually then add this info, if something u can easily configure it later on05:00
pl_iceLicker but best at the install so it can fetch other packages, eg. other language settings etc05:01
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mhzhi05:02
Gimp|hey05:02
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Gimp|how do i get rar and unrar installed?05:02
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snowbirdhi05:02
pl_iceGimp| apt-get get install rar05:02
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sorush20guys why is my printer so slow, can some one help its using the cups... can I change it to something else so that it becomes faster..05:03
BrondomanAny ideas on the install issue?  Did 5.10 remove the atheros drivers?05:03
mhzGimp|, apt-get install unrar05:03
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er4z0rhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo05:04
er4z0rhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo05:04
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Gimp|kyle@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install rar05:04
Gimp|Reading package lists... Done05:04
Gimp|Building dependency tree... Done05:04
Gimp|Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:04
Gimp|This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:04
Mateo_Hey :)05:04
Gimp|is only available from another source05:04
Gimp|enyc: Package rar has no installation candidate05:04
Echelon-His updating to breezy is done automatically? is it safe by now?05:04
pl_iceGimp| , enable backports05:04
Gimp|what is that?05:04
naliothGimp|: do not paste in here. use #flood or a pastebin05:04
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Gimp|ok sorry05:05
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pl_iceGimp| go to www.ubuntuforums.com and search backports it's another 'places' where u can get programs.. more/less05:05
Mateo_no way to access to the net with the wifi ...05:05
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Lickerpl_ice: where can i find an ip..gateway, dns server info etc05:06
mahanguubotu tell Gimp| about backports05:06
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pl_iceLicker how u want to connect to the internet on that 2nd PC?05:06
BrondomanDid they remove the atheros drivers from the 5.10 release?05:06
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Ghoatmy system has been crashing regularly, is there a log file I can check that may give me insight into the cause?05:06
Mateo_licker>  /etc/network/interfaces  ?05:06
pl_iceMateo_ he's trying to install fresh system, has no idea which gateway to use etc...05:07
realitehii05:07
realiteto everyone05:07
gigaclonhiii05:07
Lickermateo_: im just doing the install to da second pc'05:07
net_benjohi guys, my apt-get update can't connect to any of the repos.  Is this related to the 5.10 RC?05:07
Echelon-Hhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes - this is not working.05:07
Lickerpl_ice: im connecting through a hub05:07
Mateo_oh .. ok  ...  and youdon't want to do that after your install ?05:07
realiteare there enyone who know mono?05:08
Lickerwould that be easier?05:08
DocTomoerealite: how about joining05:08
DocTomoe#mono05:08
pl_iceLicker hub ... hm where the hub is connected? is this PC u typing now on the same hub?05:08
Mateo_licker > there a graphical  interface    ( pl_ice  isn't it ?? )05:08
realiteyeah05:08
realiteoke05:08
realitehow can i update my mono05:09
jwddoes anyone use their network with comcast and DHCP05:09
realite?05:09
Lickerpl_ice: yes this pc is on da hub so is my xp box05:09
pl_iceMateo_ yeh, but he doesn't know what ip/gateway ted to use on the fress install of 2nd pc05:09
Gwildorjwd, i do......05:09
djbrieckubuntu should be able to read a ISO 9660 CD rom in i burn one, right05:09
jwdcan I private message you05:09
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Gwildorjwd,  sure05:09
Echelon-Hhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes how come this is not working?05:10
darknatureGnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:05:10
darknatureAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.05:10
darknature05:10
darknaturecan anyone help me with this error05:10
pl_iceLicker ifconfig , then use almost same info for the 2nd pc, except for the IP, change the last diding, of ur 1st pc, higher etc. and make sure cable is connected to the hub etc05:10
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realitethnx05:10
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pl_iceany one got really old PC? ????05:12
Lickerpl_ice: i type ifconfig into the term win?05:12
Gwildorpl_ice, how old?05:12
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mahanguLicker, yes05:12
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pl_iceLicker into linux console : ifconfig , u using xp at the moment?05:12
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pl_iceGwildor i got 300mhz laptop, but under console i can see files truncated: eg. conf~1 can't install shit etc ...05:13
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pl_icenot sure what to do with it05:13
Gwildorpl_ice, ubuntu?05:13
udrekahello, one q: if i install the rc now is it enough to apt-get update later to get the same as a final release install?05:13
Lickerno im on my first PC wich has centos...my other pc has ubuntu on it and the other has WIN. then my new one im installing ubuntu on it right now05:13
pl_iceyes, ubuntu server with iceWM05:13
Licker:)05:14
Gwildorpl_ice, what you wanna use it for?05:14
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pl_iceGwildor i prefer console only, but i can't compile any progs. couse all files are truncated... nothing will work i'm puzzled05:14
Mateo_who can i solve it please, on e iwconfig i see the wlan with configuration, but when i do an ifup wlan0 i get an failed to bring up wlan0 ...05:15
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pl_iceLicker , for linux: ifconfig, look for eth0 then copy from it :gateway, netmask, IP(change last digit, so it won't collide with other) then put that info to ur unew ubuntu, in windows ipconfig /all05:15
Lickerpl_ice: ifconfig wont work.05:16
Mateo_Licker, execute: cmd05:16
Mateo_and then ipconfig05:16
Lickerwell i know how to do it on my WIN box. just not linux05:16
Mateo_ifconfig don't work ?05:17
Lickerno05:17
jwdis it in your path?05:17
pl_iceLicker then go to ur lovely xp and type that into console ;) ipconfig /all05:18
Mateo_you want to know ?? a ifconfig don't see my wlan0 but a iwconfig yes ...05:18
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Licker:/05:19
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Lickermy WIN box wont work either.. !@!@!@!@ the command box apears.. displays an error and vanishes05:20
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Mateo_Licker, you type it directly in the execut window or you use a msdos windws ?05:20
Lickerrun > cmd >05:21
udrekahello, one q: if i install the rc now is it enough to apt-get update later to get the same as a final release install?05:21
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war-totemcould someone tell me how to add a script to gnome? i dont seem to have a nautilus script directory anywhere05:21
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thrice`of course05:21
Lickeri just clicked network connection details05:22
jwdif I am using DHCP with comcast05:22
naliothudreka: ubuntu uses apt-get which will keep your system up to date05:22
jwdwhat should be my hostname entry05:22
adoyretsamonLicker, you seem to have been infected with a nasty bugger that uses the GPO to stop you running cmd window?05:22
jwdipconfig /all05:22
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Lickeryea05:22
jwdshows hsd1.ma.comcast.net05:22
kemikpl_ice:  really old pc... what about ?05:22
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pl_icekemik i can see files like that under console : conf~1 all truncated, can't compile nothing etc ... p2 300mhz05:23
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kemikpl_ice:  oops.. seems you've dabbled with some old filesystem or sth05:23
pl_icekemik can u explain? i put base ubuntu on it, then iceWM05:24
h08817anyone in here know where i can get alot of information on web design?05:24
h08817I need to write a 5 page paper on it05:24
jwdgoogle.com05:24
adoyretsamonkemik, some viruses on windows and some recovery tools will shorten names to 8char05:24
adoyretsamonlike that05:24
jwdor goto the library and grab a book05:24
adoyretsamoni'll bet dates are fubar'd too05:24
naliothh08817: www.w3w.org05:24
h08817jwd: of course but i was wondering if you knew specific sites05:24
Lickerpl_ice: how do i know what IP addy to use?05:25
jwdthe above is perfect05:25
h08817nalioth: well they pretty much just teach you but don't have a lot of info do they05:25
jblackDoes the livecd come with sata support?05:25
war-totemanyone familiar with installing and executing scripts?05:25
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naliothh08817: w3w is world wide web consortium. (who charts web standards)05:25
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jwdwhat is the subject of your paper05:25
h08817nalioth: o sry i confused it with www.w3schools.com05:25
jwdexactly05:25
h08817nalioth: thanks05:25
h08817nalioth: well i chose web design05:26
pl_iceLicker check all ip of other pc, they have to have unique one, then just add 1 to the end value and use that05:26
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h08817nalioth: i made a website and i just need to write my paper now05:26
Mateo_someone use a trendnet pc card for wifi ?05:26
Rehelp for configurin ftp server.05:26
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h08817jwd: so what do u think it should consist of? All the different types of coding like html, javascript, dhtml etc..?05:27
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jwdyeah05:28
jwdI would explain why people/companies need websites first05:29
netmonkbefore i upgraded to breezy my computer restarted, now when i go "reboot" I need to turn it off from the button and then turn it on again. Can anyone help me fix that?05:29
jwdthan explain the advantages of having one05:29
jwdthan start with HTML05:29
h08817nalioth: they changed their site to http://www.w3.org/05:29
jwdhyper text markup language05:29
h08817jwd: thanks05:29
jwdthan go from there as to how things get more advanced05:29
naliothh08817: ty05:30
h08817o ok05:30
jwdalso explain scripts usage05:30
jwdCGI05:30
h08817nalioth:sure05:30
jwdHTML was the first05:30
jwdit just got more complex to do more stuff as time went on05:30
h08817hmm yeah i don't know that much about cgi i guess i gotta learn that05:30
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jwdI had a web page in like 199605:30
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jwdvery very basic05:30
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jwdno one was even using the wbe05:31
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h08817well in 1996 i had not much of a concept of a computer05:31
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Mateo_someone for helping me configuring my wireless connection please ?? ( i have some trouble with ifconfig and iwconfig ... )05:31
jwdif I was smarter I should of bought every domain name05:31
jwdfrom every large company05:31
jwdthat didn't have a website05:31
jwd:-)05:31
h08817jwd: lol05:31
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renebsI need help, can anyone assist me? I have installed proftpd (following www.ubuntuguide.org) and Still can't have access to the server. I get connection refused even if I try to connect localy05:32
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pl_icerenebs ur firewall :/05:32
jwdlet me find a site for you H08805:33
h08817o ok05:33
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Tomcat_!w32codecs05:34
ubotuw32codecs is, like, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)05:34
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Mateo_i really need help .. sorry but i'm a newbie and i'm looking for that for 4days ...05:36
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h08817Mateo_: what is ur problem05:36
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h08817something with wireless right?05:36
Mateo_yes05:36
h08817well what hardware do u have?05:37
h08817!wireless05:37
ubotusomebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards05:37
Mateo_h08817, ubuntu hoary, a trendnet pc card ( recognized by native )05:37
h08817Mateo_: check out the link and see if that helps u at al05:37
ompaulwhere is the "notification area" in Gnome?05:37
h08817unless u already did check it05:37
lextonhello all05:38
lextonI'm trying to get WEP to work with my dwl-12205:38
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Mateo_h08817, i look that .. but ithink i already did it... just a minute05:38
lextonI know it will work with the wifi router wide open05:38
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h08817ok05:38
ompaulnever mind05:38
Ofe!dial-up05:38
ubotuOfe: Not a clue05:38
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Mateo_h08817,  my card don't appears05:39
h08817hmm05:39
h08817do u have the drivers for it?05:39
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h08817linux probably doesn't recognize it05:39
Mateo_h08817, on my ifconfig she appears05:39
h08817hmm05:40
h08817see when i installed my wireless i didn't have a card05:40
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h08817i had a Netgear USB05:40
Vcchola05:40
Vcchello05:40
Vcc:P05:40
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h08817well i am not sure about a pc card05:41
LickerOk. I did all that. Now it went through the network part does that mean i did it all correctly?05:41
Mateo_h08817,  she deseapear from the ifconfig but still on the iwconfig05:41
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h08817i don't know the difference between ifconfig and iwconfig so i don't think i can help you05:42
h08817what is under your network connections?05:42
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pl_iceLicker u will see, but if it didn't show errors then yeh05:42
Mateo_h08817, a ifup wlan0 send me:  failed to bring up wlan005:42
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h08817so wlan0 you can't highlight and configure?05:43
Mateo_h08817, sorry lol .. i'm french   what is under my network connections ?? you mean pc ?05:43
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h08817no i mean under network under administration05:43
Lickerpl_ice: kk. ill wait till its done i guess. Oh if you already have it installed where do u go to change the info to make it see the internet?05:43
h08817System -->administration--> networking05:44
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pl_iceLicker there it a GUI for it, or chage the file /etc/network/interfaces05:44
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Mateo_h08817,  wlan0 appears there with eth0 ( my ethernet conection )05:44
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h08817can u configure your wlan005:45
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h08817try to configure it and then activate it05:45
Lickerpl_ice: what is the GUI called?05:45
chortonI just upgrade to breezy rc, and GNOME is seeming a tad faster overall.  Is that a normal thing for people or is it just me enjoying the upgrade too much?05:45
h08817unless u have an ethernet connection05:45
Mateo_h08817,  i can configure it but can't active it05:45
h08817why what happens?05:46
theplateau how can i add mp3 support to amarok? its saying use an alternate engine, its using gstreamer05:46
pl_iceLicker system-->administration-->network config. can't miss it05:46
lextonnalioth you around?05:46
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Mateo_msg who say me that i can't05:46
eth42has anyone also experienced that Xine and Totem/xine can't calculate the correct time codes for a video in some cases?05:46
theplateauu mean video and audio is out of sync?05:46
theplateaui experienced that05:47
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stefan_kennst sich hier jemand aus05:47
Mateo_h08817,  "verify that your configurations are ok and that your pc is connected to the network"05:47
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fusioncowhi all05:47
pl_icemy Totem crashes often :/05:47
Kartoffelwhat do I need to do if my firewall don't let me choose dsl0, it only let me choose eth0 but its need to be dsl0 and the connection is working! Please help me!05:48
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h08817hmm05:48
h08817did u load it using modprobe?05:48
brennerpl_ice: often or all the time?05:48
h08817!wireless cards05:49
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, h0881705:49
h08817!cards05:49
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, h0881705:49
eth42theplateau: did you refer to me? I also experienced video and audio out of sync. But what I meant is that the mpg2-videos that I mplexed myself don't show the correct timecodes. Like it says that the video is 26 mins long while it is some about 90 minutes...05:49
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Mateo_h08817, modprobe ??05:49
KartoffelWhy can't I choose it?05:49
naliothh08817: read this url, please. !fishing !isnt !appreciated05:49
nalioth!ubotu05:49
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:49
pl_icebrenner often, eg. on changing files which i want to watch05:49
h08817fishing?05:49
gstarhi, i have breezy running on a vaio with nvidia driver fine in 386 kernel, but when i change to 686 kernel the nvidia module fails to load and thus I can't get into X.. any ideas greatfully received! :D05:50
brennerpl_ice: have you switched to tomtem-xine yet?05:50
naliothh08817: !putting !exclamation 1=05:50
stefan_kann jemand helfen absuluter newbee05:50
naliothh08817: points in front of words05:50
nalioth!de05:50
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe05:50
nalioth!fr05:50
uboturumour has it, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais05:50
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h08817well whatever05:50
pl_icebrenner i used that one after ubuntu install, haven't changed it, i don't htink it's t-xine05:50
gstari have installed the nvidia-glx package, uninstalled and reinstalled it..05:50
Kartoffel@stefan_ Try to ask at #linuxpaten... versuchs mal in #Linuxpaten!05:51
naliothh08817: the bot is not allknowing, read the  URL about ubotu to see all the triggers05:51
stefan_wie komm ich da hin05:51
brennerpl_ice: no, default is totem with gstreamer backend...try switching to totem-xine...you can always go back if you wish anyway05:51
stefan_#linuxpaten05:51
Kartoffelenter <slash > join #linuxpaten slash = /05:51
stefan_#linuxpaten/05:51
Kartoffellinuxpaten ist deutsch, is german05:51
gstaranyone?05:52
gstaror should I hit the forums?05:52
naliothstefan_: shreiben /j #linuxpaten05:52
pl_icebrenner ok will do, and any idea about xmms ? does similar thing :/ but on longer interval05:52
stefan_danke05:52
chortonCould anyone tell me how to switch the boot screen away from the kubuntu pic?05:52
KartoffelWhy can't I choose my dsl0 in my firewall?? it's working fine but is not there05:52
Mateo_h08817,  i can use modprobe to config my network connection?05:52
eth42gstar, what's the problem?05:52
gstarhi, i have breezy running on a vaio with nvidia driver fine in 386 kernel, but when i change to 686 kernel the nvidia module fails to load and thus I can't get into X.. any ideas greatfully received! :D05:52
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pl_icegstar u need to install nvidia again, that what i think... after u change kernel...05:53
gstarpl_ice: i did05:53
brennerpl_ice: if it's not constant weirdness, then no, not really.....try searching the forum05:53
h08817never mind05:53
gstarpl_ice: i dpkg --purged it and reinstalled05:53
h08817ask someone else what to do05:53
eth42gstar: take the free nv driver instead of nvidia??05:53
northern_monkgstar: have u tried a reinstall?05:53
Mateo_someone know i can i solve wifi network problem ?? lol05:54
gstarnorthern_monk: of what?05:54
h08817recheck that wireless think by ubotu just because your card isn't listed doesn't mean it isn't going to tell you how to setup your wireless05:54
northern_monkthe nvidia drivers05:54
gstareth42: but then I'd have no hardware 3d acceleration05:54
gstarnorthern_monk: yes, done that05:54
brennerchorton: ask at #kubuntu05:54
northern_monkwhats your card?05:54
gstarnorthern_monk: geforce 630005:54
eth42gstar: erm, but what do you need 3d acceration for on Linux, especially on a laptop?05:54
pl_icegstar hit forum :/05:54
gstareth42: that's not a relavent question really is it?05:55
chortonbrenner: Thanks, lemme check there.05:55
northern_monkare u running with the 686 kernel when you reinstall it?05:55
gstareth42: fact is it worked in 386 kernel05:55
brennereth42: lots of stuff...opengl programming comes to mind05:55
gstareth42: if you must know, I play enemy territory on it, it's quite a powerful laptop :D05:55
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brennerand screensavers. :)05:55
zeroverse_hello, is there a way i can write to my ntfs drive instead of just reading fromit?05:55
eth42brenner: a yes, the flying cow, right ? :-D05:55
northern_monkgstar: are u running with the 686 kernel when you reinstall it?05:55
gstartoasters!05:56
gstarnorthern_monk: yes05:56
eth42right! :-)05:56
fredforfaengstar had the same problem , never got around to fixing it , when i reinstalled the driver it installed on the current kernel not the new one05:56
gstarfredforfaen: thanks for that.05:56
brennereth42: heh...never seen that one, but some of the GL ones i've seen are quite purdy05:56
gstarthanks... will try re-installing kernel and driver together05:56
eth42brenner: do i need opengl for vi?05:57
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eth42gstar: I'm not sure that reinstalling helps05:57
eth42gstar: are you sure that the old kernel module is removed from the system?05:57
ompaulzeroverse_, it is not recomended that you try to do that, if you do install something that talks to ntfs, it  may blow up the partition, it is down to MS closing and keeping closed how that filesystem05:57
eth42gstar: check with: updatedb & locate nvidia05:57
eth42s/&/&&/05:58
brennereth42: apt-cache show vim and then check the dependencies, :P05:58
eth42brenner: see! no 3d acceleration needed for linux05:58
ompaulzeroverse_, works05:58
eth42hehe05:58
brennereth42: i never said you need it05:59
eth42brenner: hmmm.05:59
nalioththat brenner is always causing trouble06:00
kbrooks?06:00
kbrooksnalioth: what has he done?06:00
naliothbrenner is being brenner06:00
eth42kbrooks: he did never commit to the statement that 3d acceleration is necessary for linux06:00
kbrooksdefine brenner in that context, nalioth06:01
kbrookseth42: it isn06:01
kbrooksisn't.06:01
naliothkbrooks: i'm just pullin brenners leg06:01
kbrookshardware 3d accel that is06:01
naliothkbrooks: and he aint here to react06:01
brennerkbrooks: nevermind him...._he's_ the real troublemaker06:01
eth42kbrooks: exactly06:02
kbrooksnalioth: Life is hard.06:02
eth42I agree06:02
kbrooksbrenner: i trust nalioth.06:02
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CutepoAkoHIIIIIIIIIII06:02
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Tomcat_Do I still need totem-xine to use the w32codecs in breezy? I thought gstreamer was supposed to be able to use those nowadays...06:03
CutepoAkoAnyone ctc?06:03
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naliothTomcat_: totem has nothing to do with w32codecs06:03
eth42Is gstreamer still that terribly slow?06:04
Tomcat_nalioth: Well not totem, but the gstreamer backend... I read it should be able to use the w32codecs. :o06:04
eth42nalioth: huh?06:04
nalioththe w32codecs are used by any program that uses mplayer plugins06:05
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pl_icecatch ya guys06:09
EkenkronaHi guys06:09
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EkenkronaI'd like to acces my NTFS partition on my other harddrive, is there some way to do that? I have all my music and movies stored there.06:09
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naliothubotu: tell Ekenkrona about ntfs06:10
lextonhi nalioth06:10
naliothlexton: howdy06:10
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EkenkronaThanks Nalioth. :)06:10
lextonyou said you knew someone who got the dwl-122 and kismet running on ppc?06:11
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naliothlexton: i have said that somewhere, yes06:11
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rodrigooi06:13
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djm62how's breezy looking? (IE, I have a spare evening, should I edit'n'go?)06:14
TiMiDodjm62: so far so good06:14
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naliothdjm62: official release is 6 days away06:14
djm62yeah06:14
EkenkronaIs there a alternative to Winamp for Linux?06:14
TiMiDoEkenkrona: xmms06:14
djm62is it frantic final days, or is it just the stragglers?06:14
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djm62Ekenkrona: or beep media player (more modern)06:14
theineHi, is there a simple way to view the differences between my configuration files in /etc and the `original' configuration files contained in the individual packages?06:15
naliothEkenkrona: ubotu loves you06:15
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TiMiDotheine: try nano06:15
nalioththeine: open a terminal and type "man diff"06:15
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theinenalioth, diff to what?06:15
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nalioththeine: 'diff' compares files06:15
rendellbobo kayo06:15
brennerdo we assume any remaining bugs will be ironed out by the release date?06:15
TiMiDorendell: english please06:16
naliothbrenner: that is the plan06:16
theinenalioth, diff /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf ...?06:16
djm62brenner: any bugs which have been found, and can be fixed06:16
nalioththeine: either diff --help or "man diff"06:16
theinenalioth, what shall I fill in for ...?06:16
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theinenalioth, I know how to use diff, that's not the problem06:16
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nalioththeine: then put your two files in as targets06:17
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djm62theine: how much editing have you done? emacs leaves /etc/config~ , which is the last version06:17
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theinenalioth, I know! The problem is that I don't have 2 files, i.e. I don't know where to find the original configuration file that cam with the package06:17
TiMiDotheine: try google and look for the configurations06:18
tucozWhen updating to breezy, should I do a dist-upgrade using apt-get, or should I use synaptics smart update?06:18
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tucoz(using hoary right now)06:18
theinedjm62, I use vim with ":set nobackup"...06:18
nalioththeine: ah. look in /var/cache/apt/archive for the deb of the package and open it06:18
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aehoweird, it seems that I have to do "killall esd" to get sound working in enemyterritory, I am even running breezy.06:20
theinenalioth, I guess I have to do that, I just thought there might be a more convenient way, i.e. apt stores the most recent version of the `upstream' configuration files somewhere...06:20
EkenkronaSomething tells me I don't have a mp3-decoder installed. :( And I'm not used to Linux either, is there some easy way to have it install for me?06:20
TiMiDo!tell Ekenkrona about mp306:20
aehoEkenkrona, are you trying to listen mp3:s on rhythmbox?06:20
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Ekenkronaaeho, yes06:21
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aehoinstall "gstreamer0.8-mad"06:21
aehopackagew06:21
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aehoit is in universe repository06:22
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teloniri installed the nvidia packages. i do get a splash screen. but when i run glxgears they spin really slow06:23
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coolkev3 more days06:23
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brennertelonir: glxinfo | grep rendering06:23
telonir2) pppoeconf said it has set the adsl to connect at boot. it doesnt06:23
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telonirdirect rendering: Yes06:24
Secreth`Xnalioth, what was the url for that qtparted thing?06:24
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brennertelonir: k, so it's enabled...glxgears isn't really a good benchmarking tool....the gears might actually be spinning too fast for you to see!06:25
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telonirexactly in sync so i see them spin perfectly?!06:25
telonirand where is mplayer?06:25
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brennertelonir: well...what card and what FPS are you getting?06:26
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telonirdidnt get an fps message... strange06:27
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telonirnvidia geforce 2 mx 4000 usually 800-900 fps06:27
brennertelonir: you running it in a terminal?06:27
teloniryep06:27
Secreth`Xnalioth, what was the url for that qtparted thing?06:27
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naliothubotu: tell Secreth`X about sources06:27
Secreth`Xty06:27
apusanyone with experience with 3d gaming in ubuntu?06:28
djm62apus: some demos06:28
djm62apus: and the ubiquitous tuxracer06:28
brennertelonir: mplayer's in multiverse iirc06:28
telonirif it goes on like this i will switch to debian...06:29
theineHas anybody installed the Java Media Framework (JMF) for use under Openoffice?06:29
teloniri found it06:29
apusdemos of what?06:29
telonirut2k406:29
teloniramericas army06:29
apusany other known titles ?06:29
djm62apus: wolfenstein, quake3, postal 2, my gfx card is not a happy bunny with the unreal series06:29
telonirthats what i want the glx for06:29
djm62america's army, although that creeps me out06:30
telonirapus, cedega will run almost anything06:30
apuswhat about counterstrike06:30
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apus?06:30
apuscedega?06:30
telonir(tried ut goty and warcraft 3)06:30
teloniryes cedega06:30
apuswhats that?06:30
telonirno fps message....06:30
dell500what is breezey suppose to offer?06:31
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dell500or i can look it up on the site accually06:31
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telonirapus, wine, the next generation06:31
SuseUXubuntu 5.10 keeps giving me so many goodies :-)06:31
teloniris there a firewall enabled by default in ubuntu?06:31
apusdont think so06:32
naliothtelonir: no not by default06:32
telonirso far its making me a headache :(06:32
telonirits just that the ping is high06:32
telonirin fedora i got 1sec ping with the firewall enabled06:32
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telonir200-300ms without it...06:32
SuseUXtelonir,  sudo apt-get install firestarter06:32
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apusis it possible to play cs:source in linux (ubuntu)?06:33
SuseUXif you want one06:33
telonira game?06:33
telonirto test the opengl?06:33
SuseUXapus, with cedega yes06:33
Buckeroocan somebody answer a ubuntu-linux question for me.......06:33
naliothtelonir: actually if you want a 'firewall', read this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13006:33
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apuswhat is exactly this cedega?06:33
teloniripchains06:33
telonirapus, wine, the next generation06:33
SuseUXallows you to play windows games06:33
Buckeroo.......anyone06:34
TiMiDoBuckeroo: yeah wuz up/06:34
apusmhm, interesting :)06:34
telonirnot just games06:34
apusI'n new to linux ;)06:34
apus*I'm06:34
TiMiDoapus: figures06:34
telonira windows shell for the apps06:34
TiMiDotelonir: huh?9$06:34
SuseUXcedega is pure games06:34
damghi, what do i have to add to sources.list to make my kubuntu to be able to install gtk+ apps/ ubuntu stuff?06:34
Xenguyapus: cedega is a proprietary WINE06:34
SuseUXbut it's not free06:34
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SuseUXit's a choice06:35
Buckerooaight, I just installed Ubuntu. Sound server works on startup (the cheesy sound when gnome starts). but all apps like XMMS as soon as I designate an MP3 file to open, XMMS tends to crash. What's going on?06:35
apusand WINE is?06:35
brennerdamg: /join #kubuntu06:35
TiMiDosame stuff06:35
apusred? whitw?06:35
damgbrenner: ok06:35
Xenguyapus: apt-cache show wine06:35
SuseUXTiMiDo, how does one install .deb cedega?06:35
Xenguyapus: before you try cedega, have a look at this site: http://frankscorner.org/06:35
brennerBuckeroo: change the output plugin to esound or alsa06:36
BuckerooI tried, but let me do it again, just to make sure06:36
brennerBuckeroo: in xmms.....rythmbox will require an mp3 codec06:36
teloniris oss dead?06:36
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Buckerooxmms dies, and rythmbox too..... all of them do06:36
Xenguyapus: and see also the main WINE site for more tips on apps that work with WINE06:36
SuseUXXenguy, WINE is useless at games like HL206:36
SuseUXand you know it06:37
telonirwine is useless.06:37
kevogodWINE works good for Warcraft III.06:37
XenguySuseUX: WINE as opposed to what?06:37
SuseUXno it's not06:37
SuseUXbut WIne dont play HL206:37
seth_k|lappyWine works great for my statistics / engineering software, that's all I care about06:37
SuseUXit lacks PS06:37
kevogodWine makes me tipsy.06:37
apusis cedega and wine two similar modules06:37
apus?06:37
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seth_k|lappycedega is a commerical fork of wine06:37
djm62apus: cedega is a highly-developed fork of wine06:38
djm62apus: with the emphasis on directX and 3d support06:38
SuseUXapus, cedega is for playing games only Wine can do both but it not very good at games06:38
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Xenguyapus: cedega is a highly-developed non-free fork of wine :-)06:38
djm62Xenguy: WORD06:38
apusok so cedega is the answer then06:38
apus:D06:38
SuseUXfor games yes06:38
SuseUXlike HL206:39
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apusgames is the important thing yes06:39
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Xenguyapus: of course not :P06:39
grgcsmcwhere can i get an mp3 plugin for totem?06:39
SuseUXsince is you get Pixel shader and vertix shader support06:39
djm62although if you're a gamer that likes linux, the ultimate solution is to make yourself heard, and vote the only way that counts: with your wallet06:39
apusof course not what?06:39
Answerdjm62: or learn how to write code heh06:40
SuseUXapokryphos, look for native installers first06:40
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SuseUXapus, look for native installers first06:40
grgcsmcwhere can i find an mp3 plugin for totem?06:40
Answer!restrictedformats06:40
ubotuit has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'06:40
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apusI ment for using windows applications, games is the important issue06:41
apusnative innstallers, were to look?06:41
SuseUXlooks for the Linux version first06:41
SuseUXapus, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfdownloads/viewcat.php?cid=2506:41
SuseUXapus, what windows apps do you need?06:42
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ubuntuuser697hello, could anyone tell me if its possible to have the command "uptime" show up on a webpage!06:42
apusonly games06:43
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djm62ubuntuuser697: yes, just write a cgi script in the language of your choice, and include the output of uptime in it.  google cgi script for more info06:44
SuseUXapus, then look at that Link, UT2004, DOOM3, Quake4 support Linux06:44
ubuntuuser697thanks!06:44
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Lickeris there a way to optain a new config file?06:44
ubuntuuser697is there a cmd for bandiwth utilisation too?06:44
ubuntuuser697i dont want to have to install mrtg06:44
kbrooksbandwith utilisation?06:44
Blejdfistiptraf does the trick06:44
ubuntuuser697k06:45
kbrooksBlejdfist: link06:45
Blejdfistapt-get install iptraf :)06:45
ubuntuuser697hehe06:45
ubuntuuser697jsut just tried now and didnt work06:45
ubuntuuser697thanks06:45
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Blejdfistprobably in universe or multiverse06:45
kbrooksBlejdfist: wassat iptraf do06:45
KnelixHey guys... I have to do a project for a computer education class hat involves finding and demonstrating a piece of educational software. Everyone else is bringing in Windoze sw, but I want to bring in Linux-compatible software, specifically something to do with English, but anything will help. Would edubuntu have anything special or could I find the same software on synaptic?06:46
Blejdfistit shows bandwidth usage and package statistics etc06:46
Knelix*hat =that06:46
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KnelixI'll prob. be away from the comp a while, but I'll read any replies when I get back, btw.06:46
Blejdfisthttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/net/iptraf06:46
ubuntuuser697excellent06:46
ubuntuuser697many thanks06:46
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SuseUXdamn, LOADS of gdesklets goodies :-)06:47
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_jasonKnelix:  I haven't used edubuntu but maybe http://www.edubuntu.org/ApplicationSelection will help you06:48
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zrotheHi06:48
kbrooksiptraf == very nice06:48
Blejdfist:)06:49
LazyAngelwhy did my installation find both onboard network card, but none of them are working in ubuntu? :(06:49
ubuntuuser697yehjsut installed it now06:49
ubuntuuser697looks good06:49
kbrooksimpressive gui06:49
zrotheI recently switched from an ATI card to a Nvidia...what changes do i need to make so that I can startx. Just edit the xorg.conf?06:49
djm62gah06:49
kbrooksncurseified06:49
ubuntuuser697ill have to have a look so i can output on my homepage mind06:49
Blejdfisti think the default is to show kbits/s, but you can change it to kbytes/s in the config06:49
kbrooksBlejdfist: how06:49
ubuntuuser697yeh will have a closer look at it tonight06:49
Blejdfistkbrooks: the configuration is in the menu06:50
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Blejdfistjust hit Configuration and then change "Activity mode"06:50
SuseUXzrothe, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52924 , you dont need to follow it all just a few bits06:51
Blejdfistto get bw utilization you can go to Detailed interface statistics06:51
zrothety06:51
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kbrooksTEST06:52
SuseUXzrothe, just install the nvidia-glx package, run the sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and edit xorg.conf like the webpage says06:53
ubuntuuser697ooh reverse dns lookups06:53
grgcsmccan some1 get me a link to a realplayer .deb file?06:54
zrotheSuseUX, I use breezy. Does this still apply to me?06:54
SuseUXyes, just do what I said last comment06:55
SuseUXor follow that webpage to install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com06:56
zrothehow do I get x server to start up again? I guess it is looking for the ATI card06:56
PhoenixByrdstarx?06:56
SuseUXthe webpage says06:56
brennergrgcsmc: you can get a binary installer off their site iirc06:56
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SuseUXsudo gdm start06:56
grgcsmcoh06:56
grgcsmchow do i install it though?06:56
grgcsmccan u pm me?06:57
topyligrgcsmc: are you using hoary or breezy?06:57
grgcsmchoary06:57
topyliit's in breezy multiverse06:57
topyliperhaps you could use that package06:57
SuseUXyer, just how do you install a .deb?06:57
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brenner!dpkg06:57
brennerbah06:57
grgcsmcsudo -i dpkg <insert filenamer here>06:57
topyligrgcsmc: sorry, that seems to be version 8, you don't want that06:58
Oly_mk2hi, come to picks some brians, got a question on ssh :p06:58
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SuseUXgrgcsmc, 5.10 comes with dpkg installed?06:58
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topyligrgcsmc: i guess my realplayer 10 is from real.com then06:58
brrrthello all06:58
brennergrgcsmc: running a binary installer should be as easy as cd'ing into the directory and then ./<program>06:58
Oly_mk2i use ssh to run x applications on remote computers a lot, does anyone know if there is a way to bring an already running application onto the remote machine06:58
grgcsmcim not good at code06:58
grgcsmcplz pm me06:59
djm62SuseUX: dpkg -i06:59
djm62has anyone had problems where a wifi card goes down frequently with sustained heavy throughput06:59
brrrtis there a way to define a window without borders with metacity?06:59
Oly_mk2so could i for example bring synaptics on a remote machine to my local machine, as you can not run it twice06:59
topyligrgcsmc: it's a binary, you just run it like any windows installer06:59
ChousukeOly_mk2: not with SSH06:59
brennergrgcsmc: what topyli  said....it will start a graphical installer iirc06:59
Oly_mk2okay shame06:59
Chousukeand ssh -X is slow06:59
grgcsmcwont open06:59
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Oly_mk2just seems silly killing the application and relaunching it07:00
brennergrgcsmc: what's the error07:00
Chousukeyou might want to try VNC07:00
Blissexdjm62: I think <djm62> just had those problems.07:00
DAC1138can someone tell me what the "GNONLIN_LIBS" are and why isnt "gnonlin" in the ubuntu apt repos?07:00
Oly_mk2ssh -X always works fine for me07:00
ChousukeI found it very slow.07:00
Oly_mk2yeah i have vnc and freenx setup07:00
SuseUXdjm62, thanks :-)07:00
Chousukefreenx?07:00
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Oly_mk2yeah its like vnc but different, you run a whole seperate desktop07:01
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Oly_mk2can use it on slow hardware and works well even on dial up07:01
jbalintHi, I am having a problem with sound. It works for system sounds but not in Totem video player.07:01
Oly_mk2very nice program07:01
Oly_mk2but you cant view an already running session07:01
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Oly_mk2basically creates a new session/ multiple sessions of a desktop07:02
Oly_mk2they can be different desktops as well07:02
boxerboy29anyone have the first clue what beagle is?07:02
DAC1138boxerboy29, desktop search tool07:02
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DAC1138boxerboy29, need a second clue?07:03
boxerboy29is it safe to get rid of it?07:03
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boxerboy29it keep erroring webpages07:03
PhoenixByrdI want beagle and f-spot :((07:03
PhoenixByrdbeagle is a desktop search tool, like google desktop07:03
kbrookswow.07:03
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ChousukeI tried installing beagle on Hoary.07:04
Chousukeit failed.07:04
kbrooksyum @ mono07:04
Chousukeis it integrated into breezy?07:04
Oly_mk2works nicely in breezy :)07:04
brrrtboxerboy29: i entered a word into beagle and it gave me messages from my instant messenger ehre i mentioned that word :)07:04
kbrooksChousuke: 'integrated' -> no07:04
PhoenixByrdI can't get it installed, pain in the arse with all the dependancies07:04
kbrooksChousuke: its packaged for ubuntu tho07:05
Oly_mk2only problem is i use reiserfs as my file system :/07:05
kbrooksChousuke: by integrated i mean in the menu etc07:05
ChousukeI really can't wait for that ubuntu release which has eveything finally integrated and working.07:05
kbrooksChousuke: breezy has lotsa new stuff07:05
Chousukeit's not breezy, nor will it be Dapper.07:05
boxerboy29it throws error out something like an illegal code in line 119 it says its a webpage loader or something like that07:05
SuseUXPhoenixByrd, 5.10 has them, just them and it installs the deps as well07:05
kbrooksChousuke: like a ubuntu faq guide07:05
SuseUXinstall*07:06
Chousukekbrooks: yeah, but it's just new stuff.07:06
kbrooksChousuke: ???07:06
[N] ameI cant wait till ubuntu will install and all my mouse buttons work07:06
brrrti upgraded to breezy 2 days ago and everything worked well :)07:06
Chousukeit's not "We hae accomplished our goals in this distro, and it's polished and cool."07:06
Chousukeall*07:06
PhoenixByrdI'm using 5.10, doesn't show up in adept tho. I found the .deb installer tho, just having a pain trying to get all the dependancies07:06
Chousukeand then you move on to something new.07:07
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ChousukeThere are a lot of little things in Ubuntu that don't integrate very well yet07:07
SuseUXPhoenixByrd, thats because it needs gtk,  it's a gtk+ app07:07
boxerboy29i want my breezy back :(07:08
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SuseUXworks fine here07:08
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crimsunChousuke: are you taking part in the distro's development to ensure that "eveything finally integrated and working" is the case?07:09
jbalintanybody know what could let my sound work in normal desktop environment, but not xine/totem?07:09
crimsunjbalint: under Hoary or Breezy?07:09
[N] ameI want my mouse buttons to work in breezy... Im into the simple things07:09
djm62jbalint: apt-get install cripple-xine07:09
jbalintcrimsun: breezy beta07:09
PhoenixByrdhow do I get gtk from apt-get?07:09
brrrt[N] ame: what kind of mouose do you have?07:10
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[N] amems optical intellimouse07:10
[N] ame5 button07:10
Chousukecrimsun: No. :/ And don't get me wrong though, I'm not complaining. :)07:10
kbrooksPhoenixByrd: not "from apt-get"07:10
jbalintdjm62: What is that? I don't have it. And I have univ,multiv repo's.07:10
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brrrt[N] ame: there is a great mouse tutorial:07:10
djm62jbalint: n/m07:10
[N] ameI tried the imwheel for hoary it did not work07:11
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PhoenixByrdkbrooks, from where then? compile the sources?07:11
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brrrt[N] ame: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6547107:11
jbalintdjm62: Can you tell me what it is? Or what you think the problem is? So I can make some further speculation..07:11
kbrooksPhoenixByrd: umm07:11
togsterhello07:11
kbrooksPhoenixByrd: you dont get it. you meant from the repos07:11
djm62jbalint: what are you trying to play in them? does rhythmbox work?07:11
brrrt[N] ame: its for logitch mice but i think it should work with your mouse too07:12
[N] amebrrrt, thats for hoary07:12
[N] ameim in breezy07:12
Chousukecrimsun: I'm not a coder, and translation isn't my thing. I've decided I'll help the community by helping newbies on this channel.07:12
brrrthmm07:12
crimsunChousuke: sure07:12
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jbalintdjm62: Is rhythmbox supposed to work with mp3s?07:13
[N] ameI am happy that they fixed nautilus, it used to crash on me about every 3 minutes07:13
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ChousukeThough it's pretty difficult as I'm not even running ubuntu right now :/07:13
LOKYTAOLA07:13
crimsunjbalint: if you install gstreamer0.8-mad, yes (presuming you have totem-gstreamer installed)07:13
chortonjbalint: Not from a fresh install.07:13
brrrt[N] ame: i have a logitech mouse and use a ms-explorer setup in my xorg.conf (on breezy)07:13
crimsunChousuke: no excuse since Breezy RC live cds are available :P07:13
jbalintOk, I'll get those. Thanks crimsun chorton .07:13
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brrrt[N] ame: i use: "Protocol"              "ExplorerPS/2"07:14
ChousukeI'm waiting for my ordered CDs to arrive before I'll try PPC ubuntu.07:14
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[N] amebrrrt, I tried installing imwheel and going through the config but it would not work07:14
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brrrt[N] ame: i use: "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"07:14
absenthyeah!!!  only 1 week until Stable07:14
KasperTechPleeeease, I can't stand that Tuxracer is lagging on my Radeon x600, wtf do I do???07:14
[N] ameill try again...07:14
ChousukeIt'll take a while but I'll do what I can even without Ubuntu.07:14
brrrt[N] ame: have you tried the "ExplorerPS/2" protocol?07:14
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absenthKasperTech: install the accelerated Radeon Drivers07:14
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usuari__ola07:15
KasperTechabsenth: I'd sure love to.07:15
usuari__ai alguien?07:15
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usuari__repiteixon plis07:15
hectorsi aca07:15
KasperTechD'you have any proposals on how-to?07:15
usuari__you qblar en sapnish07:15
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spolayo yo yo07:15
usuari__a ola herctor07:15
absenthKasperTech: on  Hoary or Breezy07:15
KasperTechHoary, 5.04 I think..07:15
usuari__hector estas ai?07:15
Chousuke!es07:15
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:15
hectorya07:15
KasperTechThe lastest anyways, absenth.07:15
hectorhola07:15
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hectorusuari07:16
LOKYTAola07:16
hectorde donde eres07:16
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rob_pHas anyone else noticed strange/unrequested connections to bbc.co.uk from Firefox when it first starts up?  This smells of spyware but I don't want to jump to conclusions...  It's only observable by doing a packet dump while launching Firefox.  The site doesn't actually show up in the browser window.  Anyone have any input?07:16
esaci downloaded a root certificate, and i need to know how to add it to (i guess openssl) as a trusted certificate. i have googled for it, but i can only find how to add it to apache. any help appreciated07:16
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usuari_soy de brcelona07:16
chortonrob_p: Check to see if you have their rss feed in your bookmarks.07:16
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djm62rob_p: the "latest headline" thing07:16
hectora mira07:17
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hectory tu nombre07:17
usuari_estoy buena y tu07:17
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usuari_estela07:17
rob_pchorton:  I'll check...07:17
hectorha y qe haces07:17
Chousukehector: usuari_: English or #ubuntu-es, please07:17
djm62rob_p: nothing sinister (and a nice way to remind the bbc of alternative browsers)07:17
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kbrooksneed mplayer plugin07:17
rob_pdjm62:  Yes!  That seems to be the contents.07:17
kbrooksideas07:17
chortonrob_p: Like djm62 said, the latests headline folder is an rss feed from their latest news07:17
usuari_ablame de ti07:17
jbalintI tried gstreamer-properties and the esd sink "test" doesn't play anything....07:17
graigim using breezy, and my sound started messing up today.  my sb live is now making wierd noises when i play music.  and it seems like half the channel is missing.07:17
hectoresta sala es en ingles07:17
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crimsungraig: did you dist-upgrade from Hoary, or is this a clean install of Breezy?07:18
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djm62rob_p: if you look at the bottom right corner on a site with rss (like slashdot, for instance) you get an antenna aerial which you can click on to subscribe07:18
rob_pchorton:  Ok!  That appears to be it!  Thanks for the info.  I was getting a little nervous :-)07:18
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SuseUXrob_p, Windows days, thats why :-)07:19
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kbrooksso....07:19
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kbrooksbeagle == magic07:19
LOKYTAOLA07:19
_jasonkbrooks:  use mplayer plugin 3.11 there is a howto on the forums07:19
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chortonbeagle = google desktop search for nix07:19
rob_pdjm62:  Yeah.  That was it.  Nervousness now fading...  :-)07:19
SuseUXjust use totem plugin07:19
LOKYTAai alguien?07:20
hectorchousuke: this room is for read inglish07:20
kbrookschorton: i love it07:20
LOKYTAeres jilipollas?07:20
AnswerWhat is the linux command equivalent to windows "tracert" ?07:20
_jasonSuseUX:  how does one setup totem plugin?07:20
brrrttraceroute07:20
LOKYTAspaniish07:20
hectorggggggggg07:20
djm62Answer: traceroute07:20
Chousukehector: I'm not sure I understand you. But go speak spanish to some other channel, please.07:20
rob_pSuseUX:  Yeah.  Like I said, I didn't want to jump to conclusions but it did catch my attention.  Glad to know what it was.07:20
LOKYTAola07:20
djm62cryptic, I know, but one gets used to it ;)07:20
kbrooks_jason: link07:21
Answerbrrrt, djm62: thanks.  traceroute07:21
hectorok07:21
LOKYTAola07:21
AnswerHow do I get commands in /sbin and /usr/sbin to execute without the full path?07:21
SuseUX_jason, I use 5.10 it's already there07:21
ChousukeHm.07:21
LOKYTAhola07:21
SuseUXtotem xine works best07:21
LOKYTAestoy cachonda07:21
LOKYTAgtr07:21
_jasonkbrooks:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6050507:21
cowbudSuseUX: indeed it does07:21
cowbudAnswer: add it to your PATH variable..in .bashrc or in /etc/profile07:21
LOKYTAcomo estas tu07:21
djm62Answer: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin:/sbin07:22
_jasonSuseUX:  oh I dist upgraded and it kept my player-plugin... I like it but I'd like to see the alternatives to compare the two07:22
SuseUXplays quicktime trailers nice07:22
nalioth!es07:22
Answerdjm62: thanks.   export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin:/sbin07:22
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:22
LOKYTAabla en castellano07:22
djm62Answer: is how you do what cowbud told you to do07:22
Chousukenalioth: They don't seem to believe07:22
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naliothpor favor, habla espaol en #ubuntu-es07:22
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lokitaola07:22
LOKYTAcomo estas07:22
lokitaeres jilipollas07:22
naliothesta canal esta solo ingles, por favor07:23
LOKYTAhola07:23
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SuseUX_jason, just remove the plugin from .mozzila/plugins07:23
LOKYTAcomo te llamas07:23
lokitaai alguien ai?07:23
ChousukeNow it seems to me that he's trolling.07:23
LOKYTAsi07:23
SuseUX.mozzila*07:23
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gullyhi everybody ^^07:23
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clastanyone using gnucash here?07:23
jbalintdjm62: Ok, I tried the sound and rhythmbox does not work either.07:23
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Tomcat_clast: Yep.07:24
lokitaola07:24
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graigare you having sound problems with breezy?07:24
xaaei need some help07:24
graigcause i am too.07:24
LOKYTAhola07:24
lokitaestas otra vez ai copiona07:24
lokita07:24
graigand i wasn't having any problems yesterday.07:24
jbalintgraig: For me it works in the desktop, but not the media player.07:24
clastTomcat_, does it work for you?07:24
LOKYTAsi07:24
Tomcat_clast: Absolutely.07:24
lokitacabroncilla07:24
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gullyi only have a question when i use hdparm to activate the udam in mi cdrom or hd i receive a error07:24
naliothlokita: lokita ingles aqui, por favor07:24
clastTomcat_, hmm...are you using breezy?07:24
Tomcat_clast: Nope, hoary07:24
xaaei cant get totem to play files07:24
chorton!meaning of life07:24
ubotuit has been said that meaning of life is 4207:24
naliothLOKYTA: ingles aqui, por favor07:24
xaaecan any body help07:24
LOKYTAhola07:25
lokitagully07:25
SuseUXxaae, which onces?07:25
lokita???=?????????07:25
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LOKYTAquien eres07:25
lokitamierdecilla07:25
xaaempgs07:25
_jasonSuseUX:  I don't have that directory .mozzila/plugins07:25
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gullythe error is HDIO_SET_DMA_FAILED07:25
xaaeavi07:25
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gullywhat can i do please to resolve this07:25
SuseUX_jason, just remove the plugin from .mozilla/plugins07:25
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clastTomcat_, well, it's not working for me under breezy! it can't load some font! and just crashes right at startup07:25
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[N] ameexcellent07:26
graigfor some reason im getting echos and stuff with my soundblaster live.07:26
xaaecan any body help07:26
[N] ameimwheel now works right for me in breezy07:26
_jasonSuseUX:  I don't have "plugins" in my .mozilla directory07:26
gullyhi lokita07:26
SuseUXxaae, try installing totem xine, and look for any codecs07:26
crimsungraig: did you answer my question?07:26
SuseUX_jason, what browser?07:26
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_jasonSuseUX:  firefox07:26
[N] ameare there codecs w32 for breezy?07:27
_jasonSuseUX:  .mozilla in my home directory correct?07:27
SuseUX_jason, sorry I use galeon, had the plugins installed from slackware07:27
_jasonSuseUX:  oh ok07:27
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Loki_VAhi people07:27
_jasonSuseUX:  I have galeon isntalled, let me try it out to see if it has that plugin07:27
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clast[N] ame, yes07:27
Loki_VAI'm wondering when doing a netboot.. after getting the mini installer started where in a ubuntu mirror exactly should I point the installer?07:28
KasperTechPleeeease, I can't stand that Tuxracer is lagging on my Radeon x600, wtf do I do now that absenth left?07:28
clast!w32codecs07:28
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)07:28
_jason!tell [N] ame about w32codecs07:28
xaaedoes any body now a good video player ubutu07:28
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hectorhi07:28
[N] ameclast, can i get it through apt in breezy?07:28
xaaetht players all formats07:28
Loki_VAie just mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu or a particular dir?07:28
SuseUXxaae, totem, xine07:28
djm62xaae: I like either mplayer or vlc07:28
xaaei have tired them they to07:29
_jasonxaae:  try the "totem-xine" package too07:29
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xaaehard to install07:29
clast[N] ame, yes!07:29
_jasonxaae:  "totem-xine" is easy07:29
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clast!tell [N] ame about w32codecs07:29
Loki_VAAnyone know?07:29
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xaaeok where can i get it07:29
SuseUXxaae, sudo apt-get install totem-xine07:29
graigok, LOL i think i fixed my sound problem.  my cord was partially out.  <dumb07:29
xaaewht07:30
crimsun*smack*07:30
graigoops hehe.07:30
xaaeim new to linux07:30
[N] amethat does me no good07:30
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[N] ameim at work torrent ports are blocked07:30
Kiltergraig: my kids had a sound problem the other day after adding a new card instead of using the motherboard sound... they had the speakers plugged into the old ports ;)07:30
[N] ameand thats to download the debs07:30
[N] ameId prefer using apt07:31
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SuseUXxaae, type in the terminal sudo apt-get install totem-xine07:31
xaaeyes i did07:31
xaaeit says07:31
xaaeReading package lists... Done07:31
xaaeBuilding dependency tree... Done07:31
xaaePackage totem-xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:31
xaaeThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:31
xaaeis only available from another source07:31
xaaeE: Package totem-xine has no installation candidate07:31
kbrooksNO07:31
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SuseUXmost be another name07:32
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zrothewhat is the command to configured the xorg.conf file?07:32
zrotheconfigure*07:32
KasperTechzrothe: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:32
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SuseUXxaae, it's the correct name, did you enable universe?07:33
KasperTechATI drivers, anyone??07:33
kbrooksSuseUX: gone07:33
chortonzrothe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-conf07:33
SuseUX:-)07:33
djm62zrothe: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?07:33
LKnightexit07:33
chortonzxsykco: I think07:33
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chortonzrothe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xorg rather07:33
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kbrookschorton: no07:33
chortondjm62: Gotta make me wrong again07:33
chorton:-P07:34
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djm62chorton: didn't even notice...damn fridays ;)07:34
chortonI'm stuck at home from work, dang stupid pinched nerve.07:34
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SuseUXThe only probelm I have with ubuntu is the package names, many of the same thing07:35
naliothSuseUX: use synaptic07:35
KasperTechNow, PLEASE. I've got to make this work?07:35
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SuseUXi'm just saying some how they could make the names not so confusing07:35
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KasperTechWhat do I do to make my ATI Radeon x600 run properly (like without crashing in TuxRacer)??07:35
SuseUXlike the kernel packages07:35
ompaulKasperTech, have you done what the bot suggests?07:36
djm62KasperTech: search the wiki for ati, there are driver things07:36
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KasperTechI *have* installed the FGLRX driver, it sucks.07:36
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KasperTechWhat else can I do? ompaul and djm62.07:36
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LazyAngelanyone wanna help me to get network connection?07:37
cevizogluhow do I turn off the touchpad for a thinkpad t43?  it's interfering continually07:37
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djm62KasperTech: uncomment the "sucks" option in xorg.conf or provide better information on what goes wrong07:37
SuseUXthats the only down point with ubuntu, cannot seem to find any others :-)07:37
KasperTechdjm62: It's able to pull Xorg alright. But when I run Tuxracer it lacks horribly.07:37
KasperTechCan't even move the pointer without extreme lag.07:37
djm62KasperTech: glxgears?07:38
KasperTechWhat's that?07:38
_jasoncevizoglu:  i turn my touchpad off in bios07:38
djm62KasperTech: in fact, run glxinfo and see what it says about Direct Rendering07:38
LazyAngelif i write ifconfig, i just get eth0 without ip adress (only ip v6). But it is 2 network card on the mainboard. None of them work. But under instalation, and the livecd, at least one of them did work07:38
cevizoglu_jason: ah, thanks, will try  :)07:38
KasperTechdjm62: A sec, will you hang on :)?07:38
djm62no worries07:39
boxerboy29congrats ubuntu channel your the only ppl on irc help channles that help07:39
KasperTechdjm62: Thanks :) It says Direct Rendering: no07:39
Grant_ummm have a broken something cos when i apt-get update i get this Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch07:39
kbrooks:)07:39
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djm62KasperTech: that's a configuration thing, the acceleration isn't broke, it just isn't on07:40
KasperTechI see.07:40
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KasperTechdjm62: The solution would then be to turn that Rendering on, right? But How???07:41
boxerboy29grant you didnt do that  that seems to be a bad link/source/repo07:41
djm62KasperTech: you'll need to change some settings in your xorg.conf, try googling xorg and the name of your card07:41
KasperTechOkay.07:41
Grant_boxerboy29: but it was good the other day...07:41
djm62KasperTech: it's not heavy stuff, some "no"s to "yes"s07:41
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spiralhi07:41
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boxerboy29md5sum is like a serirl number07:41
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boxerboy29yes i cant spell07:42
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Grant_so does that mean i should just comment it out and then try leter ?07:42
Grant_*later07:42
hectorhi spiral07:42
PhoenixByrd(%BCPU%B): AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100+: (%BFrequency%B): 1729.140MHz: (%BCache%B): 256 KB: (%BBogomips%B): 3424.2507:42
boxerboy29like when you download an operating system step 3 or 4 is to check md5sum if not matched it wont work07:43
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boxerboy29idid you get that one from synaptic?07:43
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boxerboy29-i07:44
djm62boxerboy29: it's a checksum, rather than a serial no.07:44
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graigyou know how, in ubuntu they replaced the gnome foot icon with the ubuntu logo?  where can i find the ubuntu logo on the hard drive?  none of my icon themes work on that icon now.07:44
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djm62damn07:45
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Grant_actually dont worry about the above... its working now07:46
boxerboy29grant if you open your update manager clcik on prefferences and than settings click the 3 empty boxes and click ok now youll see boxes next to sources check all unchecked and reload07:46
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dima2001aah, how can i activate APM?07:46
fsmwhi, i'm on the launchpad looking for translations pending, how can i get a translation to work on it?07:46
TiMiDodima2001: man apm07:46
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dima2001TiMiDo, didnt know that there is a page for apm, thanks :D07:46
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TiMiDonp dima200107:47
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sergiohola07:47
TiMiDo!es07:47
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:47
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kbrooks!en07:47
ubotukbrooks: No idea07:47
djm62gah07:48
djm62has anyone experienced wireless card failure due to overheating?07:48
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Chadzadjm62, That's possible?07:48
hmrochahello, i'm having a big trouble with ubuntu, the problem description is a little long07:48
hectorwhere existence the room in spanish07:48
TiMiDohmrocha: well, try explaining the problem07:48
djm62Chadza: well07:48
kbrooks!es07:48
hmrochai installed ubuntu in all computer of my department in my faculty07:48
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:48
TiMiDohector: #ubuntu-es07:48
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`6ogwow. its full at 3am in here :O07:48
kbrooksTiMiDo: i told him07:48
mirakhi07:49
hmrochaonly users in plugdev group are allowed to mount usb devices07:49
hectorok07:49
TiMiDomirak: hello07:49
djm62Chadza: I have an ancient card, and under heavy sustained load it drops connection07:49
kbrooks`6og: what, you didnt think it was?07:49
mirakhow do I recreate a samba configuration from scratch ?07:49
hectorthank you07:49
kbrookswould be*07:49
`6ogkbrooks: iv never seen it this full07:49
TiMiDo!tell mirak about samba07:49
hmrochai changed that so that only users in group students could do that, because our user information is stored in AD07:49
`6ogoh, hte nic07:49
boxerboy29i can only wish it was 3am :(07:49
graighey i just installed beagle, but i dont see how to access it.07:49
`6oglol boxerboy2907:49
Chadzadjm62, I can't say I've ever herad of anything like that.07:49
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kbrooks`6og: ubuntu is like a big house with inviting and open people ;)07:49
djm62Chadza: I've used it for many years, always on linux, on two different architectures and 2 different kernel releases, and it's been fine07:49
hmrochaby the problem is that we have accounts for projects that don't belong to the students group07:50
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hmrochaaccount projects are exported with NIS07:50
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Chadzagraig, Check in Applications/Accessories/Beagle Search07:50
TiMiDograig: man beagle07:50
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kushboyhey, I'm having trouble building Firefox on ubuntu. Is anyone familiar with this?07:50
ChadzaOr make an app launcher in the panel and pick it from that.07:50
djm62Chadza: but on my new laptop, it seems to drop connections...the new laptop is: hotter; connected to a different router; and that's it07:50
hmrochai added all usernames of this machine to the students group07:50
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`6ogi think this is the nic you know me as kbrooks ;)07:50
TiMiDokushboy: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox or apt-get install firefox07:51
boxerboy29i just deleted it and now i couldnt be happier well i could but the #other channel has to help first07:51
Kamping_Kaisernot this one :D07:51
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sergiohello07:51
TiMiDosergio: hello07:51
kbrooks`6og: do i know you?07:51
hmrochathe users are in the students group when i ssh to the machine that has the users, but in the local (ubuntu) machine, they don't belong to that group07:51
nopleasehi07:51
TiMiDonoplease: hello07:51
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dima2001TiMiDo, well, apm is not quite what i needed. my battery is going low too fast - although it should work at least 2.5 hours (up to 4.7), it is alreqdy empty at ~1:40. it is a toshiba m50 satellite and I think that I have to avate something to spare some energy. the notebook an the accu are 24 hours old ...07:51
hmrocha...so, user that log with project accounts can't user usb devices07:51
`6ogkbrooks: as kamping_kaiser07:51
kushboyWell, I kind of want to make my own version of firefox, you know? So I get the mozilla-firefox dev07:51
djm62Chadza: it happens on large downloads, which is damn frustrating07:51
hmrochaany help?07:51
TiMiDobrb07:52
Chadzagraig, And then Applications/Accessories/Searching and Indexing is where you set preferences07:52
graighmm, i don't think beagle got installed,  trying to install it again.07:52
kbrooks`6og: lol07:52
ChousukeOk, so I have 100km awa from me a computer on which gnome-panel exits with status 255.07:52
Chadzagraig, Didn't see it there?07:52
ChousukeAny ideas where to start?07:52
`6ogthis is one of my 2 main nics ;)07:52
Chadzadjm62, Does the problem also occur where the connection just dissapears?07:52
rob_pdjm62:  Yes.  It's quite possible.  I had an old Prism wireless card that would do the same thing.  I connected it to a spectrum analyzer and watched the signal+noise/noise.  Once the card heated up, the signal integrity became so poor that it did have trouble staying connected.  When allowed to cool, it returned to functioning.07:52
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naliothgraig: open a terminal and type "ps aux|grep beagled"07:53
graigok. i found it.07:53
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luis_helo07:53
naliothluis_: howdy07:53
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kushboyTiMiDo: Is there any way to build the mozilla-firefox-dev that I APTed?07:54
djm62rob_p: you are truly a geek07:54
djm62rob_p: you are truly a geek07:54
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naliothkushboy: debs are installable usually07:54
djm62hmm, I have a thick pcmcia slot...wonder if I can keep it a bit cooler07:54
rob_pdjm62:  RF is my dayjob :-)07:54
boxerboy29is it safe to assume lets say firefox 1.0.7 works in ubuntu but doesnt work in suse its a suse source codde issue not a firefox one?07:55
mirakTiMiDo: the problem I don't have the samba config file in /etc/samba/smb.conf07:55
naliothboxerboy29: this is not #suse07:55
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kushboynalioth: What do you mean?07:55
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djm62rob_p: I got it down to "temperature", and during this IRC/dist-upgrade session, I've been taking it out and blowing on it when it goes down07:55
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naliothkushboy: you can install mozilla-firefox-dev using synaptic07:55
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boxerboy29yes i know that wasnt a spiceic suse quwestion though07:55
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graigbeagle just says beagle deamon isn't running,07:55
djm62rob_p: newer cards have this sorted?07:56
brrrtwhen i try to comile alltray on my "breezy64" i get: checking for gcc... no07:56
rob_pdjm62:  You're better off with a new card, yes.07:56
brrrtwhat can i do?07:56
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kushboynalioth: Well, I did that and it basically created a directory of the source. But do you know of any way of building from that source? Does that make sense?07:56
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naliothbrrrt: install "build-essential"07:56
kbrooksbrrrt: apt-get install build-essential07:56
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brrrtnalioth: kewl, thx07:56
kbrooksubotu: gcc07:56
uboturumour has it, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.07:56
naliothkushboy: it shouldnt have made a directory of anything07:56
brrrtkbrooks: perfect ;) thx !07:56
naliothkbrooks: build-essential07:57
kushboynalioth: What should the -dev package do?07:57
djm62gah, ah well...new job new hardware07:57
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naliothbrrrt: installing "build-essential" will get you gcc and other things used to compile software07:57
rob_pdjm62:  The technology has gotten better and the hybrids used in recent cards generate much less heat than the older ones did.07:57
djm62cheap and good pcmcia wifi card: any recommendations?07:57
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naliothkushboy: the -dev package of anything allows you to build software using components of that package07:58
chortondjm62: The microsoft line isn't bad, actually.07:58
chortondjm62: Got one of their b cards for 20 bucks a few weeks ago.07:58
djm62rob_p: interesting...I used it on an original pentium toughbook...must have acted as a giant heatsink, so the problem never came up07:58
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kushboynal: Ok, so what should I do to build the software now? How do I utitlize the package once I've apt-get it07:58
mirakhow do I reobtain the default samba smb.conf file ?07:58
djm62chorton: out of the box on ubuntu?07:59
brrrtnalioth: i c07:59
rob_pdjm62:  These days, they all are fairly robust from a hardware standpoint.  Usually the issues that arise anymore are due to firmware bugs or drivers for un-supported OS'es, etc.07:59
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naliothkushboy: if you install mozilla-firefox-dev using apt-get or synaptic, there is no building involved07:59
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kbrooksubotu: build-essential07:59
ubotukbrooks: Syntax error in line 108:00
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chortondjm62: Yeah. Ubuntu has supported every peice of hardware on all of my pc's out of the box, aside from sound on the mac mini08:00
olicathi all. using the network config tool, i can see how to set up my wireless card to connect to a network, but how can i set it up to be an AP?08:00
kushboynal: Ok, but what do I do now...that I have it, you know? Can I do anything with it?08:00
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kbrooksubotu: gcc not found is <reply>gcc not found? install build-essential08:00
ubotuokay, kbrooks08:00
naliothkushboy: i dont know what you've got exactly08:00
willhi, how do i list all hard disks?08:01
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kushboynal: Ok, well I gotta go. I'll look into. Thanks for your help!08:01
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charly_nadjyla je te parle en priv08:01
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olicatanyone?08:01
nalioth!fr08:01
ubotuit has been said that fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais08:01
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[N] ameok I got avi working in breezy but I got no sound08:02
[N] ameI have sound in the rest of the system08:02
brrrtwill: ls -l /dev/hd* && ls -l /dev/sd*  is what i do08:02
limertrying to restore my ubuntu after switching drives to second ide.  I can't edit menu.lst b/c read-only filesystem08:02
willbrrrt: thanks!08:02
rob_policat:  You'll need the linux hostap driver and hostap utilities.08:02
limerusing knoppix btw08:03
brrrtwill should show all ide, sata, scsi drives and partitions08:03
Mizutsukihey, I'm having some difficulty with preformance in BB, all of the screensavers and any 2d or 3d apps run at rediculously slow framerates, I think it might have to do with the driver, I'm using an S2 Savage MX, any thoughts?08:03
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[N] ameusing totem-xine, system has sound but avi play back does not. Any suggestions?08:03
olicatrob_p, ok thanks, i'll look into that08:03
[N] ameusing breezy08:03
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willbrrrt: opps im dumb, forgot they are all listed in /dev !! thought it was some wierd hdparm command!08:04
kensourdBonsoir tou le monde08:04
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rob_policat:  do a, "apt-cache search hostap" and you should find what you need to make it work.  Good luck.  It's not the most straight forward thing to get working but once you do, it does work.08:04
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nalioth!fr08:04
ubotuit has been said that fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais08:04
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olicatcool08:05
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Gwildor[N] ame, disable system sounds?08:05
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kbrooks!gcc08:05
ubotugcc is, like, totally, the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.08:05
[N] amedisabling system sounds will make avi sounds work?08:06
kbrooks!gcc not found08:06
ubotugcc not found? install build-essential08:06
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djm62this upgrade will continue if it kills me08:09
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chortondjm62: How much time is this and the weather?08:10
djm62scotland in near-winter...nice08:10
kbrooksdjm62: good thing i'm on a desktop here .....08:10
chortonAh.08:11
chortonWell, good luck with that.08:11
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calamarihi08:12
calamari!firewall08:12
ubotufirewall is, like, totally, Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.08:12
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benkong2could anyone help me with wireless question. I have everything installed just curious where the wireless lan configs are stored? also why system seems to get confused if I have a lan cable plugged in and there is a wireless signal also.08:21
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yoselhi08:22
ramblingturtlewhere would i locate the md5sum for the breezy cd i downloaded08:22
benkong2thanks08:22
chortonbenkong2: System/Administration/Networking08:22
chortonPick a default interface.08:22
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benkong2I did and I activated it but my linksys has broadcast ssid turned off.08:23
Omnicaanyone in here know how to install airsnort with ubuntu08:23
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deFryskramblingturtle, md5sum <theisofile> <enter> in your console08:24
deFryskramblingturtle, and wait for the result08:24
ramblingturtledeFrysk, Thank You08:24
chortonlinksys = router or your pc's card?08:24
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HappyFoolbenkong2: maybe under /etc/network somewhere?08:24
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claesbenkong2, /etc/network/interfaces perhaps08:25
Chambers-final release the 13th eh?  Hope they get Evolution working correctly :)08:25
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benkong2HappyFool; claes; thanks08:25
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claesbenkong2, what kind of wireless card are you using? I have a rt2400 that I can't get to work.08:26
ramblingturtledefrysk, what do i verify the md5sum with though, in the md5sum.text file it list a bunch of them for different things so which one am I suppose to use?08:26
chortonWhat's the file that contains the vim settings?08:27
telonirwhy doesnt pon dsl-provider work? pppd just exits. though if i run pppoeconf(even if not completing it) and then pon works (adsl)...08:27
deFryskramblingturtle, if in windows , read this and dowmload the /exefile of your preference http://linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/verifyiso.html08:27
HappyFoolchorton: ~/.vimrc, i think08:27
claeschorton, or /etc/vim/vimrc08:27
telonirie i need to run pppoeconf each time to get the conection working08:27
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seifeHi08:28
claeschorton, and if you have a ~/.exrc vim reads that too.08:28
chortonThank ya all.08:28
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seifeHow do i set Applications Fonts as Monocrome and the Desktop Ones as Better Shape ?08:28
teloniranyone?08:28
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claestelonir, sorry never used pppoe08:30
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seifeHow do i set Applications Fonts as Monocrome and the Desktop Ones as Better Shape ?08:30
deFryskseife, i believe thats not possible08:30
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telonirnever had this problem in debian08:31
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deFrysktelonir, do not know anything about that stuff but do u have to run it manually as root ?08:32
xophErWhats the difference between libgl1-xorg and libgl1-mesa ?08:32
deFryskor as user ?08:32
seife deFrysk: Thats possible08:33
seifeLook at this screenshot08:33
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seifehttp://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/gnome-desktop2.jpg08:33
nrbqhowdy08:33
tonyyarussoDoes anyone have a suggestion for a media player for linux that can handle aacPlus, mp3, mpg, and DVDs?08:33
nrbqguys, can someone tell me how to get wireless turned on in hoary?08:33
ramblingturtledeFrysk, I am using ubuntu breezy right now I upgrade through the apt-get upgrade command, after downing this I had x11 fail on me and had to go in and reset configuration because I installed nvidia-glx and that seemed to mess up the upgrade for x-windows or whatever. So now that this has been fixed I finished the upgrade with the apt-get upgrade commmand and everything is not to bad and x11 now works but when I go to boot into the 08:34
Seveastonyyarusso, totem-xine :)08:34
nrbqI've activated the wireless card in networking, but it just doesn't become visable08:34
telonirin debian i configured it manualy based on the dsl-provider file that was there08:34
telonirnow i used the pppoeconf08:34
nrbqtelonir, can you give me some pointers? I just installed a couple of days ago08:34
nrbqnot up on unbuntu at all08:34
calamaritonyyarusso: I don't know about aacPlus, but xine should be able to handle the others08:34
HappyFool!tell nrbq about wireless08:35
HappyFoolnrbq: maybe that will get you started?08:35
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tonyyarussoSeveas: Would that be different from "Totem Movie Player", which shipped with Ubuntu, or is it an add-on?08:35
deFryskseife, you talk about the realplayer ?08:35
seifeNo08:35
seife*sigh*08:35
claesseife, It was possible earlier but not anymore. And that looks like a old screenshot. But I might have wrong. If you find out how to do it. Please tell us.08:35
seifelook at the upper bar08:35
othernoobmmh, would anyone happen to know how to find out what cpu a pc has in win98se?08:35
seifethen look at the desktop08:35
seifeDifferent shapes08:36
deFryskseife, ask in #gnome08:36
nrbquh, HappyFool, I've been forced to use mIRC to connect, so don't see any info coming up08:36
calamariothernoob: start : run : msinfo3208:36
claesseife, Think they have removed that feature.08:36
HappyFoolnrbq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards08:36
kbrooksclaes: what feature?08:36
nrbqthanks!08:36
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nrbqJust ran pppoeconf and it say's that it found 2 interfaces, but the Access Concentrator of my provider did not respond08:37
HappyFoolothernoob: maybe right-click on 'My Computer' and choose Properties?08:37
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nrbqhehe, and he I was trying to impress my wife into using Ubuntu08:37
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othernoobcalamari, HappyFool: well thanks, now what's a x86 family 6 model 8 stepping 6?08:38
claesDifferent fonts like this screenshot. http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/gnome-desktop2.jpg08:38
tonyyarussoSeveas: Do you know whether totem-xine will handle aacPlus, or just the others?08:38
kbrooksclaes: i dont think it was removed08:38
kbrookslet me see08:38
kbrooksclaes: i think its in ubuntu08:38
hmrochaSeveas, hello, you're the one that might save me08:38
calamariothernoob: not sure.. but there should be a tools menu (or something similar), choose reporting tool08:38
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calamariothernoob: then you can view collected information and get your cpu speed and some other info08:39
nrbqI've got an internal card in the laptop that won't connect - can someone tell me how to tell which I have?08:39
hmrochaSeveas, remember the problem i had with the usb devices that "belonged" to the plugdev group and i changed that to the "students" group?08:39
claeskbrooks, Is it System -> Preferences -> Fonts your thinking about?08:39
kbrooksclaes: yes08:40
HappyFoolothernoob: look here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q216204/08:40
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calamariothernoob: my memory of all this is getting rustier all the time.. been running Ubuntu for a while now :)08:40
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bpfanyone have jedit working on breezy? I just tried installing the executable .jar file and it failed :(08:40
lorenzodbpf, I have it installed, give me a minute and I'll see if it works.08:41
bpfi'm not dedicated to the program, but need a way to edit over FTP (not SFTP/SSH)08:41
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bpffrom a package?08:41
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bpfhow did you install it08:41
bpf?08:41
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lorenzodbpf, I downloaded from jedit.org and installed it.08:42
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claesseife, Try    System -> Preferences -> Fonts    Seems to work. Never tryied it myself08:42
lorenzodBut this was in hoary or possibly even warty days.08:42
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andrilhello all08:42
othernoobcalamari: thanks HappyFool: thanks.08:42
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bpfso you also used the .jar file? I should try it on my hoary box08:42
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bpflorenzod, what version do you have installed?08:43
sakihi all08:43
lorenzodbpf, it still works.08:43
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calamariis there a list somewhere of what I could expect to mess up if I install breezy?08:43
lorenzodbpf: 4.3 pre 208:44
bpfcalamari, what do you use most?08:44
bpflorenzod, that's the one i tried :(08:44
lorenzodI don't really use jedit though.08:44
bpfit didn't even install for me08:44
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lorenzodI use vim for pretty much everything.08:44
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bpfme too, but for editing over FTP it looks cumbersome (i haven't tried it yet)08:44
lorenzodbpf: netrw is your friend..08:45
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calamaribpf: gedit, eclipse, beep-media-player, xchat ;), firefox, mplayer08:45
cronicI need to reconfigure X for a new gfx card08:45
cronicDoes anyone remember the dpkg-reconfigure package?08:45
kbrooksbpf: try ftpcube too08:45
dhonnthe only problem was the gfx card when i did a dist-upgrade to breezy08:45
KasperTechHow do I enable Direct Rendering???08:45
KasperTechPlease, it's urgent.08:45
bpfcalamari, I think you'll be fine08:46
moyogocronic: xorg-server08:46
dhonndpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:46
KasperTech@ me?08:46
cronicWhich is it? lol08:46
dhonnmine08:46
bpfi fired up eclipse this morning and it works on breezy. it is probably the most dificult of that list08:46
moyogocronic: yeah his08:46
kbrookscronic: xserver-xorg08:46
calamaribpf: when I upgraded to hoary it was horrible.. it messed up my menus, deleted icons, changed configurations I'd customized, etc.08:46
hmrochaanyone here understands NIS?08:46
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claeshmrocha, a little bit.08:47
bpfcalamari, I upgraded hoary to breezy at home and it has been perfect. also installed breezy from scratch on a thinkpad and it's nearly perfect08:47
hmrochaclaes, ok, you might help me then08:47
dhonnanyone set up an ltsp server with breezy yet?08:47
bpfkbrooks, ftpcube is an editor?08:47
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XorlevNeed a little help with Kubuntu Breezy...I just installed it clean from the Kubuntu Breezy Preview disk onto a separate partition than my normal system. It seems to work perfectly other than one thing: the mouse is messed up. The mouse moves, the programs work, but unable to click or hover over anything. I can select UI elements with my keyboard and use them, but the mouse refuses to work correctly. Once when I removed my USB mouse and plugged in a P08:47
XorlevS/2 mouse it started working correctly, but then after a reboot it did the same thing with the PS/2 mouse. I also upgraded completely (apt-get update, apt-get upgrade) and the same symptoms before and after.08:47
hmrochai have ubuntu clients with a group "students" that has two users, "admin,hal"08:47
calamaribpf: cool.  Maybe I should install fromt scratch.  I need to repartition anyways08:47
bpflorenzod, is netrw easy to set up and use?08:47
kbrooksBFP: no, a ftp uploader08:47
kbrooksand downloader08:47
kbrookswritten in ....08:48
kbrookspython!08:48
dhonnanyone set up an ltsp server with breezy yet?08:48
hmrochaclaes, i have a machine exporting a lot of accounts for students working in projects08:48
SupIAmMikequestion 1. - if i do a update-rc.d local defaults 80 - should the script /etc/init.d/local be executed before or after X is started?08:48
bpfkbrooks, I want to avoid copying the files back and forth to edit them. I want to edit in place08:48
lorenzodbpf it's already "set up".08:48
SupIAmMikein debian it runs before X is started but in ubuntu it runs after - any ideas?08:48
kbrooksbpf: connect to server08:48
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kbrooksuse it08:48
lorenzodbpf: :help netrw08:48
bpflorenzod, excellent, I thought it was a plugin or something08:48
hmrochaclaes, that users didn't belong to the "students" group so they couldn't mount usb devices08:48
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lorenzodbpf: it is, but a default one. No need to install it.08:49
=== calamari needs to write a console editor that understands the ancient and outdated microsoft cut/copy/paste keys :)
hmrochaclaes, i added all users to the group "students" that has the same gid as the "students" group in the local machine08:49
bpflorenzod, can you get a directory listing or do you need to know all paths/filenames?08:49
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chortoncalamari: Shift - Ins and all that?08:49
hmrochaclaes, but in the client, they don't belong the students group08:49
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calamarichorton: yeah08:49
chortoncalamari: That is the work of the devil.08:49
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calamarichorton: I find them infinitely more easy to press than ctrlc and all that08:50
hmrochaclaes, in the machine that is exporting the users, they do belong to the students group08:50
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Ofewith what command can you see the temperature of the system in Ubuntu? In some distribution (dunno what) the command is $ sensors | grep temp ; hddtemp /dev/hda ; hddtemp /dev/hdb.08:50
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hmrochaclaes, weird, isn't it?08:50
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KasperTechDoes anyone know how I enable Direct Rendering??08:50
chortoncalamari: Did you start with them?08:50
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calamarichorton: of course :)08:50
olicathi again all. i'm tryin to install ndiswrapper from sources, but each time i try modprobe, the whole system just locks up08:50
CPUnerd_if anyone used a tape driver here, usually in /dev/st0 , anyone knows if it just stopped working in 2.6.10 and hoarty ?08:50
calamariback on an xt keyboard08:50
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calamariso I often have numpad issues as well hehe08:51
claeshmrocha, Do the student group have the same gid on all machines? And there are no users with the same uid on the local machines as in NIS?08:51
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olicatany ideas how to fix that?08:51
yoselhi, someboy could helpme?08:51
hmrochaclaes, yes, students has gid 1000 in all machines08:51
SupIAmMikeI heard a new version of Ubuntu was coming out soon - where can I find a package list for the release (or preview)08:52
hmrochaclaes, the second part, i don't know, i'll look into that08:52
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claeshmrocha, And you want som users from the NIS server in the local "student" group.08:52
nrbqI've got a bad feeling about this08:52
hmrochaclaes, locally, i only have two users in the students group :(08:53
hmrochaclaes, admin and hal08:53
claeshmrocha, One thing I always forget is the nscd (Name Server Cache Daemon)08:53
hmrochaclaes, there should be a lot of users08:53
nrbqanyone available to help with a wireless problem?08:53
hmrochaclaes, i'm not using nscd in the client08:53
HappyFoolSupIAmMike: i think the base system has a few hundred packages (i may be wrong?). you can maybe look on packages.ubuntu.com08:53
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wefwhere can i get totem-xine08:54
claeshmrocha, Ok. If you log in with some of the NIS users and check the groups with "id" command.08:54
olicatnobody have an idea on ndiswrapper crashing the system?08:54
hmrochaclaes, it works fine, but the users doesn't belong the students group08:54
HappyFoolwef: it's in the 'universe' repository08:55
nrbqI have no idea how I fixed this, but I did08:55
hmrochaclaes, if i run the same id command in the NIS server, it belongs to the students group08:55
rob_pSupIAmMike:  For your first question... maybe because gdm has a starting priority of 13 (at least on mine), while your example of local has a starting priority of 80.  The lower the number, the higher the starting priority.08:55
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nrbqI don't know whether to laugh or cry08:55
nrbq:)08:55
vanguardistanyone having problems with 3d acceleration?08:55
nrbqOk, I'm on my way08:55
nrbqpeace to all08:55
vanguardistglxinfo08:55
vanguardistname of display: :0.008:55
vanguardistIllegal instruction08:55
yoselhey i got a problem with a fx5600 video card08:55
vanguardistI get the same error on every 3d program I try08:55
yoselsomeone colud help me?08:55
vanguardistthis started after I moved to breezy from hoary08:55
vanguardistiirc08:56
claeshmrocha, And the NIS server is a client to itself or is it using the files in /etc/ ?08:56
hmrochaclaes, i ran ypinit -m to refresh the exported user/group08:56
hmrochaclaes, it's only a server, all users are in /etc/passwd08:56
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andrilhas anyone used Aegis? do you have any pro's or cons?08:56
SupIAmMikerob_p - thanks08:56
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rob_pSupIAmMike:  No prob.  Hope that helped.08:57
LaserLineHello all, Where can I find the list of Installed packages after a clean ubuntu Installation ?08:57
hmrochaclaes, this is really bad for me :(08:57
claeshmrocha,  Then when you run id on the server NIS isn't used. Then it uses /etc/passwd and /etc/group08:57
brrrtwohooo :D just compiled alltray for my amd64 and it works :D thanks alot for your help!08:57
SupIAmMikeHappyFool, how do i know what version of the ipw2200 driver will come on the next version? it wasnt in the network packages08:57
hmrochaclaes, true08:57
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brrrtis there an easy way to make a .deb from my selfcompiled alltray ?08:58
HappyFoolSupIAmMike: is that part of the linux kernel? if so, i would guess it corresponds to the linux kernel version. if not, i don't know08:58
LaserLineAnyone ?08:58
hmrochaclaes, i really need this users to mount usb devices and use audio devices :(08:58
SupIAmMikeoh hmm i think it is now your right08:58
SupIAmMikethanks HappyFool08:58
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yoselhey, why, my ubuntu crashes when it wants to load gdm, it happdens when i connect my geforce fx560008:58
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hmrochaclaes, a teacher needs to use audio but he can't because the users of his discipline don't belong the the students group08:59
gpleddoes ubuntu support amd sempron 64?08:59
claeshmrocha, Strange. You have included the NIS users in the local /etc/group file so it's a member in audio and plugdev?08:59
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SupIAmMikewhat version of the kernel will come out in the next release? (2.6.7 looks like in the preview but i dont know if that will change)08:59
HappyFoolSupIAmMike: 2.6.12, i think08:59
hmrochaclaes, no, i changed udev permissions so that instead of plugdev, it uses students08:59
kbrooksSupIAmMike: i have 2.6.1209:00
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Cody`can anyone give me a permissions dump of their /etc ?09:00
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SupIAmMikekbrooks, are you using the preview?09:00
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Cody`I screwed mine over by chowning ot a user and chmodding all to 75509:00
kbrooksSupIAmMike: rc09:00
hmrochaclaes, because regular user accounts are stored in AD09:00
Cody`now I don't have sound09:00
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hmrochaclaes, AD == Active Directory09:00
SupIAmMikerelease candidate?09:00
LamegoHello, does anyoned tried to use valgrind on Breezy ?09:00
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jasonhi i have a doule boot thing on my hard drive of linux and windows and i wan to know how to take linux off and just keep windows09:01
kbrooksjason: why09:01
kevogodResistance is futile.09:01
hmrochaclaes, i tried deleting the local students group, but it still doesn't work09:01
claeshmrocha, Aha. Not shure what's happened with your setup. Don't talk about AD, I work with it all days. Don't wanna hear about it now. :-)09:01
jasoncause i want to put linux on my other computer and keep windows on this one09:01
hmrochaclaes, my setup with AD is working very fine :)09:01
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bam_just get rid of windows09:02
Thuggalo-Are the minimum system requirements anywhere? I can't find them and this live CD has been booting for almost 30 minutes09:02
LaserLineGuys, I have a question please...09:02
jasonplus i dont have enogh space to hold 2 os on this hd09:02
kbrooksbam_: stop it09:02
jasoni need more space for my media09:02
bam_buy 2nd hdd?09:02
hmrochaclaes, but the user ip001 in the nis server belongs to the ip group09:02
DAC1138LaserLine, it helps to ask the question first09:02
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Lamegojason, look fo help on a windows related chan "how to restore the MBR"09:02
hmrochaclaes, i used usermod -G students ip00109:02
LasseLjason, I think I would delete the linux partition from windows and run fdisk /mbr to restore the windows boot loader ... ?09:02
hmrochaclaes, but this is not reflected in the nis client09:02
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LaserLineDAC1138 I asked already... :D09:02
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kbrooksLaserLine: reask09:03
jasonwait so what do i have to do09:03
hmrochaclaes, this way, ip001 belongs to the ip and students group09:03
jasondo it on widnows09:03
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bam_yes09:03
jasoncayuse i cant load from the cd the oc selecter thing comes up09:03
bam_windowsxp recovery console09:03
LaserLineWhere can I find a list of the packages installed by ubuntu after a clean installation ? (I can't find it)09:03
jasonos*09:03
dhonnjason after you restor the mbr, i would use knoppix to resize the ntfs partition09:03
claeshmrocha, But not with other users?09:03
Thuggalo-Are the minimum system requirements anywhere? I can't find them and this live CD has been booting for almost 30 minutes09:03
HappyFoolLaserLine: 'dpkg -l' ?09:03
hmrochaclaes, yes, i did that to all users (with a script)09:03
jasonalright il figure it out thanks09:04
HappyFoolLaserLine: or maybe 'dpkg -l|grep ^ii'09:04
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gpledwhere can i find a list of cpu's that ubuntu supports?09:04
bam_or just resize with partition majick in windows after the mbr fix09:04
albackerguys, i installed breezy on my computer.. and it didnt ask for root password during the installation. so when i boot into ubuntu i put my username and password [the user one..]  i try to be root by doing su, and put 'root' [claiming to be the default user password]  but nothing happens, I mean that the password is invalid. I do sudo su, but it still asks for password. what can i do ?09:04
DAC1138gpled, google09:04
claeshmrocha, If you manually try with another user?09:04
kbrooksgpled: pc, ppc, and x6409:04
DAC1138gpled, google.com/linux maybe09:04
SupIAmMikehow do i find out what version of ipw2200 comes in the kernel - #ipw2100 just told me vanilla 2.6.12 does not contain kernel09:04
LaserLineHappyFool I mean before installing... Isn't it documented in the Wiki ? (I can't find it, I'm sure I saw it once...)09:04
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hmrochaclaes, something like $ for i in $(cat /etc/passwd | awk -F: '{print $1}'); do usermod -G students $i; done09:04
HappyFoolLaserLine: i don't know where you'd find such a list, sorry09:04
bpfalbacker, using sudo you would enter your own password09:05
hmrochaclaes, this one-liner worked fine09:05
LaserLineHappyFool Like in Distrowatch, where you can see the versions of each component...09:05
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bpfalbacker, so there is no need to ever know the root passwd09:05
HappyFool!tell albacker about sudo09:05
claeshmrocha, But that reads /etc/passwd not NIS.09:05
albackerbpf, i need root privileges..09:05
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bpfalbacker, i know, use sudo09:05
HappyFoolalbacker: read that wiki page; will tell you how to get root09:05
hmrochaclaes, yes, but i do ypinit -m after that09:05
LasseLalbacker, sudo -s09:05
hmrochaclaes, this should work right?09:06
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LaserLineAnyone else ?09:06
albackeraha ok thanks bpf, LaserLine, HappyFool09:06
bpfis the '-s' necessary?09:06
claeshmrocha, Does cat /etc/passwd shows you any NIS users?09:06
hmrochaclaes, yes, all of them09:06
LaserLinealbacker whayt ?09:06
gpledfound it: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/09:06
hmrochaclaes, show all users that are used in the ubuntu clients09:06
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claeshmrocha, You are running the command on the NIS Server?09:07
hmrochaclaes, but they are exported belonging only the the default group, not with the students group i added too09:07
hmrochaclaes, yes, "ypinit -m" on the server09:07
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LaserLinegpled thanks, that's what I was looking for... :D09:08
hmrochaclaes, what command do you use to "refresh" the exported users?09:08
albackerbpf, so i do sudo somecommand, and it acts like ive done it from a root terminal. what if i want to add the user 'root' with all the privileges ? can that be done !?09:08
claeshmrocha, You should add the users in the student group localy on the ubuntu clients. If there is a student group there allready.09:08
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hmrochaclaes, yes, there is, but that would be a great hack09:09
hmrochaclaes, because everything gets deleted when the user shuts down the computer09:09
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LaserLineIs there a possibility to restart ESD after killing it ? Sometimes, my laptop (ubuntu 5.04) hangs, and I have to kill esd from TTY2, but I can't get it to restart unless restarting the whole system. It's an 440MX Mobo from Intel with onboard sound ??09:09
hmrochaclaes, we use a deploying system that upload the OS chosen by the user to the client computer09:09
bpfalbacker, I don't think you understand that ubuntu tries to shield you from ever needing or using the root account directly. you can accomplish everything you need with sudo09:10
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claeshmrocha, I think  you have to do that. Linux reads the file /etc/group up and down. When it comes to the end it starts with NIS09:10
bpfalbacker, what are you trying to do anyway?09:10
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hmrochaclaes, hmm...so i delete the local students account, it should use only the NIS group09:10
albackerbpf i want to do, sudo su. and i have  a root terminal. so i dont need to put sudo before all commands in the terminal/09:11
hmrochaclaes, not account, group09:11
abdul----how can i download Totem plugins for Ubntu09:11
hmrochaclaes, i tried deleting the local students account but it doesn't work09:11
hmrochaclaes, i'll try again09:11
LaserLineAnyone knows how to help my issue ?09:11
bpfalbacker, yes, but why?09:11
_jason LaserLine: esd?09:11
claeshmrocha, Yes it should. Check the owner of the dev files so it have the same gid.09:12
meuserj|workLaserLine, "esd &"09:12
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LaserLine_jason yeah... how can I restart it after killing it, more over, why does esd hang my system ?09:12
_jasonLaserLine:  you can do: <alt> + f2 and then type "esd"09:12
albackerbpf, it helps me not to write sudo before command.09:12
LaserLine_jaston I get skwirking sound from speakers...09:12
LaserLine_jason and then no sound09:12
bpfalbacker, i don't know what to tell you. does sudo su work? you would still type your own password09:12
claeshmrocha, Users need to log out to update it group membership. (or use $ su - user)09:12
LaserLineI have to mention, I followed the HOWTO on enabling ALSA via GNOME (forgot the link)09:13
albackerbpf, ok, ill try. im not under linux now.09:13
albackerill go there ..09:13
albackerthanks another time ; bpf .. cya ;)09:13
hmrochaclaes, strange, i deleted the local group, i do "getent group students" but it shows nothing09:13
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LaserLineAny Idea ?09:13
hmrochaclaes, what is the maximum number of users that can belong to a group?09:14
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hmrochaclaes, maybe that's the problem09:14
IanLiuhello09:14
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_jasonLaserLine:  to reenable it you can use the alt+f2 and then esd.  But I don't know too much more about it.  Maybe someone else can help you.09:14
LaserLine_jason thanks for the effort....09:14
IanLiuHi, can i ask questions about Ubuntu here?09:14
hmrochaclaes, something is wrong in the nis server09:15
AnswerLaserLine: skwirking?  maybe u have interfernce or wiring issues09:15
IanLiuI tryed to instal ubuntu here but it didnt work... Im running by the CD09:15
LaserLineAnswer don't think so, because after restarting the system - all is good.09:15
meuserj|workIanLiu, where did it fail?09:16
IanLiuI couldnt chose the particion09:16
claeshmrocha, Not sure how many users is the max in a group.09:16
AnswerLaserLine: do you have the other stuff muted in alsamixer?  line-in or microphone stuff could cause that09:16
LaserLineAnswer Sometimes while using the laptop I here this small beep, and then CPU goes 100%, and I have to kill ESD09:16
IanLiui habe a C: with 30 GB and a D: with 10gb09:16
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IanLiui wanted to instal ubunto in D:09:16
sakihi all09:16
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AnswerLaserLine: now that sounds like IRQ conflicts09:17
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sakiis this a tecxhnical server chat?09:17
LaserLineAnswer What should I use ? Alsa or ESD  ( I followed the HOTTO on gnome and alsa for hoary)09:17
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Ofewith what command can you see the temperature of the system in Ubuntu? In some distribution (dunno what) the command is $ sensors | grep temp ; hddtemp /dev/hda ; hddtemp /dev/hdb. what's the equvalent in Ubuntu? :)09:17
AnswerLaserLine: If ESD is hanging, maybe you could try Alsa...  I have had issues with both on laptops so I cant recommend.09:17
meuserj|workIanLiu, well, if you have a windows partition there, you have to reformat it to be a linux partition.. easiest way is to just delete the partition and tell the installer to create partitions in the unused space09:17
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LaserLineAnswer Even using ALSA, the ESD process is always there - it's gnomes....09:18
HappyFoolOfe: maybe the stuff in the lm-sensors package?09:18
IanLiuhmm, its because i wanted to have a Windows partiton and a Linux one...09:18
hmrochaclaes, :(09:18
meuserj|workLaserLine, you can turn it off.. by disabling system sounds09:18
hmrochaclaes, i don't know what to do09:19
LaserLineAnswer If I un-check the Load Sound server at startup, ESD won't start...09:19
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LaserLineAnswer (I think, the laptop is not near me now...)09:19
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Ofehappyfool: there's a package like that? Well, I'll do some research then. thanks.09:19
tklichanybody familiar with borne shell scripts?09:19
LaserLineAnswer System sound is already off...09:19
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OfeHappyFool: does lm-sensors package come with default installation or do I have to install it separately?09:20
tklichhow do i test if a parameter passed into a script is numeric?09:20
DAC1138neighborlee, boo09:20
HappyFoolOfe: it's not installed on my system; i don't think it's installed by default09:20
neighborleeDAC1138, LOL09:20
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eriscohello, if anyone plays the linux game wesnoth, how do you use special abilities? it says to just click on the name of the ability... but that isn't working. i am trying to get the shaman to heal one of my units. help.09:20
hmrochaclaes, thanks very much for the help09:20
LaserLineAnswer, Well I hope Breezy will fix that up - I intend to wipe the laptop and reinstall... (but now with out to many crap) so next time I won't have to do that, except "distro upgrade"09:20
neighborleeDAC1138, well well well , look who we have here09:20
erisconot really a technical ubuntu question, but hey what the heck =p09:21
neighborleeDAC1138, ;-))09:21
Ofesynaptic it is then. thanks HappyFool.09:21
ReaffAnyone know how to login as root in ubuntu?09:21
LaserLineAnswer Thanks for the help :-)09:21
neighborleeReaff, yes09:21
ReaffHow?09:21
neighborleeReaff, dont09:21
DAC1138neighborlee, i log in as root09:21
meuserj|worktklich, "man test"09:21
eriscoreaff, there is no root09:21
hmrochaclaes, i'll have to write this group file in the local ubuntu image09:21
DAC1138neighborlee, i grew on linux using root instead of sudo09:21
eriscounless you want to change what ubuntu was designed for09:21
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Reaffhow to remove that thingy? i need root09:21
neighborleeReaff, you can if you really want to but its risky so I figure its not worth it..why do you want to login as root anyway09:21
eriscouse sudo09:21
HappyFool!tell Reaff about root09:21
eriscoor the root terminal09:22
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kahuna_Hi. Can anyone reccomend a good affordable USB wireless adapter.09:22
neighborleeReaff, remove that thingee ?09:22
claeshmrocha, Well I couldn't help you but I tried anyway.09:22
Reaffneighborlee, becouse i need root.. and dont like sudo09:22
ReaffHappyFool,  thnx :)09:22
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DAC1138Reaff, if you need root, like i do, do "sudo passwd"09:22
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erghey, i let synaptic upgrade all packages and now i'm getting bus errors with my ubuntu live 5.10 pre amd64 system.09:22
neighborleeReaff, well its easy to become root...just so you 'realize' it is NOT safe09:22
DAC1138Reaff, itll ask for a new root password. enter the new passwords and then try to login via "su"09:23
hmrochaclaes, i'll try to change the default account of a project account to students, to see if it's exported well09:23
claeshmrocha, That should also work.09:23
ergi believe it's a library problem, is there a quick fix?09:23
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kahuna_sudo is just as unsafe as su in the hands of an uneducated user.09:24
Reaffneighborlee,  well i like root.. dont like sudo..09:24
ReaffDAC1138, thnx.. but has already changed ;)09:24
kahuna_Reaff: sudo passwd root09:24
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kahuna_then you can su to root09:24
Reaffsudo -i09:24
Reaffthen si09:24
Reaffsu09:24
ompaulReaff, sudo command try it you like it - do it for a week and you will not look back - its a 24 year old command have some respect  :)09:25
Reaffompaul,  i like root. dont wanna learn a new 1 :P09:25
neighborleeReaff, well its just the idea that leaving yourself in 'root' is not tacticly a wise idea thats all ;-)09:25
hmrochaclaes, yup, it worked :)09:26
ompaulReaff, then you are running some mutant of Ubuntu not ubuntu09:26
kahuna_It's not wise, but people are free to make their own mistakes.09:26
neighborleeReaff, this is linux...your free to do what you wish...just know the pros and cons and be happy ;-)09:26
claeshmrocha, Great!09:26
hmrochaclaes, maybe the problem in really in the students group that has too much users09:26
Reaffompaul,  no im running ubuntu09:26
hmrochaclaes, i'll try mounting a cdrom with this user09:26
kahuna_we said just about the same thing neighborlee09:26
claeshmrocha, How many users is it?09:26
Reaffwell thnx ppl :)09:26
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avalostwhat's the easiest way to increase scrollback in all terminals?09:26
Reaffand im off09:26
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thompahey anybody:09:27
kahuna_avalost: use screen.09:27
neighborleekahuna_, oh you did ?..well shiver me timbers09:27
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thompahow can i delete massive files all in one directory09:27
kahuna_you get 1024k of scrollback09:27
Yetr2avalost, | less09:27
HappyFoolavalost: edit -> current profile -> scrolling09:27
hmrochaclaes, it worked, i suppose it should with a usb device too09:27
avalosti'd rather have scrollback than using screen09:27
avalostand my .bash_profile does not have anything with scrolling in it09:28
thompai need to delete a directory and all its files09:28
hmrochaclaes, more or less 1185 users09:28
thompaor at least the files in it09:28
avalostthompa, rm -rf dire/09:28
thomparm -rf *.mess09:28
thompa  gives me09:28
thompaArgument list too long09:28
avalostthompa, rm the dir09:29
thomparmdir -rf ?09:29
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hmrochaclaes, i could search nis source code to see the maximum number of users in a group09:29
kahuna_just rm -rf <dir>09:29
avalostHappyFool, i'm assuming you mean .bash_profile09:29
claeshmrocha, Haven't used NIS with that many users. So no ide.09:29
avalostcorrect?09:29
HappyFoolmaybe   find -iname '*.mess' -exec rm '{}' ';'    if you want to erase specific files only09:29
Mustard5what are the -rf flags doing in that command?09:30
HappyFoolavalost: no, sorry, i thought you meant gnome-terminal; if you mean text consoles (alt-f1 etc.) i don't know09:30
Mustard5r is recursive?09:30
kahuna_or even for i in *.mess;do rm $i; done09:30
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avalostaterm, specifically09:30
Mustard5f is?09:30
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avalostis typically what I use09:30
rob_pMustard5:  r=recursive, f=force09:30
hmrochaclaes, i'll do one thing to test... now psd002 belongs to the group students09:30
kahuna_actually I think rm "$i" would work better i nthat little script.09:30
hmrochaclaes, i'll use usermod to add this user to group psd09:30
HappyFoolavalost: 'man aterm', i guess; i don't have aterm installed09:30
ompaulthompa du -h *.mess09:30
Mustard5k thanks rob^ p09:30
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hmrochaclaes, and export the info to see if it works09:30
thompaok thanks09:31
thompawhats du09:31
kahuna_disk usage09:31
ompaulthompa sorry >> ls *.mess  | wc << what does that say09:31
HappyFoolif the command-line is too long for rm, won't it be too long for the others too?09:31
kahuna_ompaul: why?09:31
kahuna_You're just gonna make his machine slow down doing that09:31
thompaits doing something09:32
kahuna_Who cares how many lines?09:32
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hmrochaYEESSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:32
claeshmrocha, Great!09:32
thompa rm -rf "dir"09:32
ompaulkahuna_, well it tells us how many lines and if over 2k then we can tackle it other ways :)09:32
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thompathanks09:32
hmrochaclaes, thanks very very very much for the help09:32
thompamaybe its locked up09:32
Mustard5all gone now thompa ?09:32
kahuna_true that. But the find and shell script suggestions would work regardless.09:33
Mustard5what is the name of the directory?09:33
claeshmrocha, Now you can sleep well tonight. :-)09:33
hmrochaclaes, now psd002 belongs to user students and also belongs to users students and psd (students is repeated)09:33
thompanope09:33
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hmrochaclaes, oh yeah :)09:33
hmrochaclaes, i'll try to work with this a little more :)09:33
Mustard5do you have permission to remove it?09:33
thompai think there are maybe 900,000 files09:33
thompayes of course09:34
ompaulthompa, ahhh what kind of data is in there?09:34
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Mustard5I mean file permissions, thompa, sorry :D09:34
thompaspam09:34
mc124hey there, just installed ubuntu and it seems very nice. I'm completly new to linux so i have a question.. I installed ubuntu on the same hdd as my windows, but i cant seem to find my windows files. They are there but i cant find em from my ubuntu installation. Why is this?09:34
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thompachinese spam attack09:34
HappyFoolmc124: linux and windows use different file systems09:35
thompaim going to try it again09:35
Mustard5mc124 you will probably need to mount your windows partition09:35
HappyFoolmc124: you can read, but not write, files from your windows system09:35
mc124k, so as an example: i cant listen to my mp3s that i download using my windows?09:35
HappyFool!tell mc124 about windowsdrives09:36
othernoobHappyFool: forgetting fat32?09:36
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ThirstehWhat is the dummy package called that will install all of KDE  (from normal Ubuntu) - kde-desktop?09:36
HappyFoolothernoob: fair enough09:36
hmrochaclaes, if the default group is not students, it doesn't work :)09:36
rob_pthompa:  Feed that into a bayesian filter (to train it) and you'd have one hell of a spamfilter!09:36
othernoobHappyFool: albeit you're right, you can't write from ;)09:36
HappyFoolmc124: see the link ubotu sent to you09:36
hmrochaclaes, i'll change de default group for everyone, but also add them to the group they should belong too :)09:36
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hmrochaclaes, i'm very happy :)09:36
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rj_can someone help with a small problem with removing postfix09:36
ThirstehHappyFool, ? ;)09:36
rj_Removing postfix ...09:36
rj_ * Stopping Postfix Mail Transport Agent...09:36
rj_ *stfix/postfix-script: fatal: the Postfix mail system is not running    [fail] 09:36
rj_dpkg: error processing postfix (--remove):09:36
rj_ subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 109:36
rj_Errors were encountered while processing:09:37
rj_ postfix09:37
Subliminalhow do i install a .deb archive09:37
rj_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:37
rj_root@sc01:/etc #09:37
rj_dpkg -i file.deb09:37
ThirstehSubliminal, dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb09:37
mc124k thanx HappyFool and ubotu . will gove it a try09:37
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thompahow do i check directory size again?09:37
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HappyFoolrj_: don't paste here please09:37
Subliminalthx09:37
rj_du -hs .09:37
damgaah, my notebook hung and after a reboot its lan module won't load (sk98lin). dmesg tells internal software issue. lspci detects the network card properly, dhclient eth0 won't work anymore. now eth0 is my wireless card instead of the original one09:37
othernoobrj_: ever wondered what a pastebin is for?09:37
rj_sorry :(09:37
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rj_i didnt mean to post that much09:37
claeshmrocha, Could be that the additional group list can't have multiple groups with the same name.09:37
hmrochaclaes,  what?09:38
damgany idea?09:38
hmrochaclaes, i didn't understand that, sorry09:38
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claeshmrocha, Well my english isn't that great.09:38
RIOT|Marauderhi, i've just installed ubuntu for the first time. the installation tell me to create an user, now how can i know if this user have the same rights of root user?09:38
hmrochaclaes, mine is not great either :)09:38
rj_I'am having a problem removing postfix, the error message is here http://pastebin.com/386467 if anyone could help it would be much appricated :)09:39
naliothRIOT|Marauder: system > admin > users and groups09:39
kennethhi09:39
seth_k|lappyrj_, sudo /etc/init.d/postfix start09:39
seth_k|lappyrj_, then try removing again09:39
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thompaMustard5: how do i check the directory size again in bash?09:39
claeshmrocha, You now what I mean with additional group list?09:39
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antixis LVM recommended?09:39
thompaif i ls i may be here too long09:39
hmrochaclaes, yes, the other groups other than the default09:40
Mustard5thompa, I'm not sure09:40
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damghow can i check if my network card has driver or hardware problems?09:40
tschweghi09:40
rj_seth_k|lappy: worked like a charm, thank you :)09:40
hmrochaclaes, i'll try to change all users with a one liner09:40
claeshmrocha, Yes. And I think that you can't have two groups with the same name in that list.09:40
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seth_k|lappycheers rj_09:40
tschweganyone mind to help me with a monitor /screen resolution problem?09:40
hmrochaclaes, i don't have that09:40
holdenIt's working, damg, nothing's the matter with it09:40
holden:)09:41
ShereKhanI have Ubuntu and Windows XP on a laptop. I use GRUB to select between the two. But whenever I update Ubuntu and there is an update to the kernel or bootloader or whatever, my /boot/grub/menu.lst gets overridden, and Windows XP is kicked out of the bootloader. Is there any way to circumvent this? Like an include or override for menu.lst or something?09:41
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ThirstehWhat is the dummy package called that will install all of KDE  (from normal Ubuntu) - kde-desktop?09:41
kennethwhen i installed ubuntu to my sata drive it put the boot selector on my ata drive, i want to reformat that ata drive, how do i put the boot info on my sata drive without harming the instalation already on it?09:41
damgholden, until that hang LAN worked (i had to manually dhclient eth0), now I can't access eth0 - it is the wireless card and no other devices in the network configuration09:41
_jasonthompa:  du -h FOLDER09:41
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claeshmrocha, Not now. But wasn't it like that before? Two groups with the name students.09:41
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tschwegI just switched from a 17" Nokia monitor to a 21" Eizo and somehow, i can't reset the resolution correctly09:42
thompadoes rm -rf "dir" go without prompts?09:42
thompa_jason: thanks09:42
decklinShereKhan: just put it after the automatically generated stuff. there are comments showing where that is09:42
hmrochaclaes, i have the local group students now :)09:42
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thompaim a little tired09:42
_jasonthompa:  I believe rm -rf will got without prompts09:42
claeshmrocha, And the primary group student?09:42
hmrochaclaes, the problem is that the students group in the nis server is not being exported09:42
hmrochaclaes, so i use the local group09:43
damgholden: $lspci -> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet Controller: Marvel Technology Group Ltd.: Unknown device 4351 (rev 10)09:43
Mustard5type info rm , thompa09:43
hmrochaclaes, maybe this is a hack, but it works :)09:43
naliothThirsteh: "kubuntu-desktop"09:43
damgholden, and on rmmod sk98lin (which is its driver) i get either that the device is busy or segmentation fault09:43
hmrochai'll now try to change the 4th field of the passwd file to 100009:43
claeshmrocha, That's the main thing. :-)09:43
tschwegi played around with my xorg.conf file, but i can't set the refreshrate correctly. anyway, if someone has time, take a look at my xorg.conf file and tell me what's wrong. http://pastebin.com/38647209:43
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ShereKhandecklin: OK, I'll try that. tnx09:44
thompa_jason: sorry is that du -h "directory name"09:44
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_jasonthompa:  yes09:44
thompaits hung up09:44
thompaor counting09:44
qatsihello all!....anyone knows when is the 5.1 full release is ?09:44
ompaulthompa find . -exec rm {} \; <<<<<<<<< from within the directory09:44
lorenzodqatsi: you mean 5.10?09:44
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hmrochaclaes, i don't know how to change this quickly09:45
lorenzodWell, its going to be release Oct. 13.09:45
damghow can I actually scan for network cards09:45
tschwegqatsi, somewhen this month ;)09:45
qatsilorenzod isnt that the same ?09:45
damg?09:45
weiersHi, I mounted one of my VAT32 drives in fstab, and I can read all the data, but it is only read-only. How can I change the setting that I can access any data on the drive and write to the drive in any way that I want to?  The entry in my /etc/fstab looks like this:  /dev/hda6/wcwinvfatdefaults0009:45
_jasonthompa:  yeah that will give you all subdirectories as well... there may be an option to not do that check, man du09:45
thompathanks09:45
ompaulthompa, the machine will be busy for a bit09:45
qatsiorenzod: uhmm, thanx :D09:45
lorenzodqatsi: 5.10 == 2005.Oct09:45
Yetr2weiers, in the fstab entry, remove the 'ro' from the options09:45
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qatsiorenzod: ohh,i see :p date there :) thanx a lot09:46
antixdo you ppl use LVM on your disks?09:46
tschweglorenzod, 13th already? sw33t, can't wait for it09:46
Yetr2antix, you wish to learn how to use LVM?09:46
lorenzodtschweg: +- a day or two of course :-)09:46
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olicathi all. i'm tryin to install ndiswrapper, but getting nowhere fast. i'm running the latest breezy smp kernel, when i run the modprobe command, the system fans speed up and the keyboard becomes inactive.09:46
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claeshmrocha, I'm no good scripter. Substitute in vim perhaps.    :%s/old/new/g09:47
olicatthen i have to switch the machine off09:47
thompaompaul: thanks I think rm -rf wont prompt09:47
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antixYetr2, no I use it but I got some trouble with a new installation and don't know if LVM is causing it...09:47
damgcan anyone please help me to setup network please? the wizard won't work (everything greyed out)09:47
tschweglorenzod, of course :)09:47
Mustard5thompa does rm have an -i switch that allows interactive?09:47
hmrochaclaes, yes, i know that :)09:47
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Yetr2antix, read the /var/log/messages ...09:48
antixYetr2, how do you do fsck on a LVM partition?09:48
hmrochaclaes, but i want to replace only the 4th field of passwd09:48
olicatno ideas anyone?09:48
weiersYetr2  ... Just to clarify... I do not see any 'ro' - except under the entry for dev hda1, which is an ext3 partition?09:48
tonyyarussoWhat does it mean if I get an error that looks like "Segmentation faultsts... 69%" while using apt-get?09:48
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hmrochaclaes, i could store "awk -F: '{print $4}'" in a variable and use sed to replace that value in the line maybe09:48
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thompaMustard5: yes . i just want to start removal so i can go eat09:49
Yetr2antix, the same way you would normally fsck a partition. run `vgscan` first to detect the LVM things09:49
joe_alfweiers, change defaults to user09:49
Mustard5:)09:49
rob_pthompa:  Try, "du -c /path/to/dir | grep total" and it should print the total size of all files within that directory.09:49
thompacool09:49
Yetr2antix, usually it'll be /dev/(volumegroupname)/logicalvolumename/09:49
joe_alfweiers, then unmount and mount -a09:49
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claeshmrocha, Should work. But as I said I'm no good at scripting.09:50
Yetr2weiers, is this a thumb drive or some sort or portable storage device?09:50
antixYetr2, I tried fsck /dev/hda3 which is my LVM vol but that wasn't a reiserfs partition it said.. aha ok thanks I'll try that instead :)09:50
hmrochaclaes, ok, thanks anyway :)09:50
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antixYetr2, but LVMs are not more sensitive than normal partitions in your opinion?09:51
Yetr2antix, /dev/hda3 is a physical volume of your LVM group09:51
avalost!e1709:51
ubotue17 is probably the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org Install HOWTO at: http://www.gawth.org/?id=lin09:51
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antixYetr2, and that shouldn't work right09:51
Yetr2antix, LVM makes managing mutiple disks on one system fairly easy..09:52
tonyyarussoMight it have something to do with having to many entries in /etc/apt/sources.list (is there a limit?)?09:52
no_dammagEanyone? I really need help with LAN ...09:52
tschwegno_dammagE, what's the problem?09:52
Yetr2antix, you can't fsck a physical volume, it's garbage data as far as it's conserned..09:53
weiersjoe_alf, I am sorry for beign ignorant, I type umount -a, and then it tells me all the devises are busy.09:53
claeshmrocha, sed 's/old/new/g'09:53
weiersYetr2, it is just another hard drive09:53
naliothtonyyarusso: there is no limit, but if you have unofficial sources, that can cause trouble09:53
claeshmrocha, http://www.student.northpark.edu/pemente/sed/sed1line.txt09:53
tonyyarussonalioth: What sort of trouble does that bring up, and is there any way around it?09:53
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no_dammagEtschweg, ubuntu hung, had to hardly restart and after the reboot my LAN was away - dhclient eth0 begins to access my WLan although ethernet should be on place and eth1+ don't exist09:54
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BicchiDoes anyone have an ATI Radeon 9800 (Dual Monitor) and Its willing to send me his/her xorg.conf file so that I can get dual monitor working?09:54
no_dammagEtschweg, ill restart the machine to see fresh dmesg09:54
joe_alfweiers, sudo umount /wcwin and then mount -a after you edit /etc/fstab09:54
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naliothtonyyarusso: using binary debian pkgs can make your ubuntu box unusable09:54
InMehi all09:54
weiersthanks joe_alf  will quickly do that.09:55
tschwegno_dammagE, yeah, try a restart first09:55
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hmrochaclaes, thanks very very much09:55
joe_hi guys09:55
hmrochaclaes, i was already using sed, but that page will really help me09:55
no_dammagEtschweg, did already 3-4 times, no help. aaah, moment, it hangs on bios - i wanted to enter it ...09:55
tonyyarussonalioth: Okay.09:55
no_dammagEtschweg, no it got there09:55
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Yetr2antix, did you find your partitions?09:55
joe_how do i start up samba service in terminal?09:55
weiersjoe_alf, it just tells me the devise is busy. I've already edited fstab and replaced "defaults" with "user"09:56
weiersjoe_alf, can I just log-out and log in again... will that reset it for me?09:56
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tklichhello09:56
tschwegno_dammagE, wait, it hangs on the bios?09:56
HappyFooljoe_: sudo /etc/init.d/samba start09:56
tklichdoes anybody know how to check to see if a parameter in a shell script is a number?09:56
InMedo you know when the stable version of Ubuntu 5.10 come out ?09:57
no_dammagEtschweg, built-in LAN is enabled in the bios. No, it just hung a little longer than I'm used to on other machines ;)09:57
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Sanneweiers: might be something is accessing your drive, so you can't unmount it.09:57
weiersInMe ... on 13 October.09:57
claesweiers, mount -o remount /wcwi09:57
InMeoh  thx =)09:57
no_dammagEtschweg, it was because of inserted usb stick :)09:57
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no_dammagEtschweg, ok, a moment09:58
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mikhail^is it just me, or is hotplug in breezy taking too long to setup?09:58
odiousy helo thar09:58
no_dammagEtschweg, hmm, funny thing, i checked dmesg and now the card has been detected. stay around, ill bring it to an another room to connect it to ether10:00
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olicatanyone know why i get "Operation not permitted" when i sudo modprobe nidiswrapper?10:00
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joe_HappyFool, thanks10:01
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HappyFooltklich: how's this?  if (echo abc|grep -q '^[0-9] *$'); then echo number; else echo not number; fi10:01
HappyFooltklich: try 123 in place of abc10:01
cgeolicat - Do you have any drivers for ndiswrapper installed?10:01
HappyFooltklich: i tried [0-9] + as well, but that doesn't work; not sure why10:02
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no_dammagEtschweg, i don't know. Seems that the driver has been corrupted while i did a reset. After that I recompiled the driver, but didn't reboot. Now I rebooted and the card has been properly detected. Maybe the kernel has been writing on it when I pressed reset10:02
olicatcge, no not yet10:02
no_dammagEtschweg, sorry for disturbance :D10:02
cgeolicat: try installing one first. If I remember correctly, the module won't load without one.10:02
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olicatcge, i get the error when there are dirver too10:02
cgeolicat: Oh10:03
olicati'm running the smp kernel, maybe the ndiswrapper module wasnt compiled against it?10:03
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olicatanyone know if ndiswrapper works with the smp kernel package?10:03
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oO_will_Oohi10:04
HappyFooltklich: hrm, that also matches the empty string10:04
cgeIn Evince, is there some way to shrink the page to fit another paper size, as in acroread?10:04
weiersHi, I'm sorry, I logged out and back in again, but it seems the fat32 partition is still only mounted for read-only. My fstab entry now reads: /dev/hda6/wcwinvfatuser0010:04
oO_will_Oois there a problem with ntp.ubuntulinux.org? my computer failed to properly synchronize on boot-up10:04
Sanneweiers: did you see my suggestion?10:04
kbrooksweiers: mount -a10:04
odioushow do i set the network interface(s) i want brought up at boot? i set eth1 active and eth0 not active in the gnome network settings gui but next boot it goes back to both active. i always have to ^C when init tries to bring up network interfaces10:04
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weierssorry Sanne, was it the mount- o one?10:05
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antixYetr2, I'm scanning the disk with seagates cd at the moment just to check the physical media... :)10:05
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Sanneweiers: no, maybe you're accessing the partition, so you can't unmount it.10:05
antixYetr2, do you use a gui for managing your LVM partitions?10:05
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Sanneweiers: you can find out with 'lsof /wcwin'10:06
weiersSanne, that is why I decided to log out and log in again.10:06
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Yetr2antix, I don't use a gui to manage my partitions10:06
SmasHiNg00g10:06
_antixYetr2: That's nice, why are telling me?10:06
weierskbrooks, I typed mount -a, what do I do now?10:06
Yetr2antix, I hardly every use a gui for any kind of administrative tasks10:06
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_antixoh there's the other antix. thief.10:06
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antixYetr2, do you take backups?10:06
claesweiers, mount -o remount /wcwin10:07
antix_antix, sorry10:07
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odiousror10:07
Yetr2no, I don't make backups.10:07
antixYetr2, ok me neither.. but I'm thinking I should one of these days.. :)10:07
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pejcaogreetings10:08
sorush20guys10:08
antix_antix, I took it around 1994...10:08
sorush20is this the same ubuntu on freenode...10:08
Yetr2I wouldn't bother unless this is a machine that mutiple people depend on.. if you lose your porn, you lose your porn.10:08
sorush20cause I'm joining you though gnu10:08
weiersSanne, I typed that and it gave me a list of stuff that I have no idea how to interpret10:08
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Lars_GHey there Seveas10:08
pejcao" #ubuntu :[freenode-info]  if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup"10:08
Lars_G!backports10:09
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports10:09
antixYetr2, argh that would be a catastrophy! ;)10:09
weiersclaes, I typed mount -o remount /wcwin. I did not get any error message, but my files still open up into OOO2 writer as read only.10:09
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antixYetr2, no but I have some other ppl:s stuff also..10:09
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Yetr2 antix, then I would suggest reading up on making snapshots..10:09
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odiousi saw stallman once. that's one dirty man. i heard people say some things about gates's body odour but people who have met both agree that stallman would have 10 times gates's userbase if it came down to who smelt worse.10:10
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Sanneweiers: if you get anything at all, that means that processes are accessing /wcwin, so you might not be able to unmount. For example, if i have a shell open and cd'd to a partition, I can't unmount this partition.10:10
pejcaook synaptic issued debconf on postfix... then debconf crashed... synaptic is waiting for debconf to return... what to do?10:10
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antixYetr2, yep thanks. 76% of the scan now :)10:10
pejcaokill something?10:10
pejcaois it safe?10:10
claesweiers, whats the output of mount10:10
mc124tried looking for a file to download on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab , cant find one :S10:11
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weiersclaes, I think the relevant one is:    /dev/hda6 on /wcwin type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)10:11
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claesweiers, The owner of /wcwin is?10:12
Yetr2antix, http://www.tkdp.com/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html10:12
weiersSanne, I don't have any programme running except for X-Chat and my terminal which is still in my home directory10:12
kbrooksweiers: lsof /wcwin10:13
weiersclaes, I should be the owner: that is: weiers10:13
Licker_how do you install a new network card to ubuntu?10:13
odiousi had to turn off IPv6 in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases so that my dns queries wouldn't time out... on more than one network. should i report that as a bug? does it happen a lot?10:13
claesweiers, is it so on the filesystem to? ls -ld /wcwin10:13
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joe_hi10:14
Yetr2err10:14
Yetr2antix, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html10:14
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Skidhmm, im having problems mounting my k750i - it shows up in syslog/messages10:14
Sanneweiers: but lsof /wcwin gives you stuff, so something is accessing it - strange.10:14
Skidbut how do i actually mount it10:14
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Licker_I just bought a new network card but it still cant connect... Do I need to drop the drivers files into a certain file or sum sum10:14
Skidbefore i was able to mount /dev/sda110:14
Licker_?10:14
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Skidbut no, now more10:14
Skidnow no10:14
weierskbrooks, lsof /wcwin gives me six entries ... it lists a file that I opened a while ago in Open Office, but Open Office is closed10:14
joe_so i set up samba and started it up but i cannot see my windows share files10:14
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kbrooksweiers: Kill the oo pid10:15
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durtlicker_ you might have to use ndiswrapper10:15
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ilpavoxhow do i get my distro to show some fancy colors and stuff as it starts up.. like knoppix does10:15
Licker_durt: what is that?10:15
mc124how do u set up samba?10:15
weiersclaes: the output of ls -ld /wcwin is: drwxr-xr-x  18 root root 8192 1970-01-01 02:00 /wcwin10:15
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mc124or any of the scripts, sorry for the complete ignorance of how to use linux..10:16
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claesweiers, There you have it. weiers user dont have any permissions.10:16
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odiousLicker_, sudo rm -rf /;cp /dev/cdrom/drivers /usr/lib10:16
ubuntu_anyone knows whether it's possible to "reserve" space with reiserfs like extended does?10:16
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MikeStylehi guys, im trying to set up my own irc server using UnrealIRCd...but im not sure how to edit the .conf file to my liking...could someone help?10:16
weiersclaes, how do I change that?10:16
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durtlicker_ ndiswapper does some crazy stuff so you can use your windows drivers: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu10:17
Skid!usb10:17
ubotuSkid: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about10:17
claesweiers, Is it only you that should have access to the files?10:17
Skid!mobile10:17
ubotuSkid: Are you on ritalin?10:17
weierskbrooks, where do I kill the oo pid? I am sorry, I find all of this stuff quite bewildering, yet interesting.10:17
Skid:)10:17
Licker_ok10:17
Shin_Goukihi who here has beagle experince?10:17
Shin_Goukii want to start the beagle search window from command line.. but dont know how?10:17
weiersclaes, at the moment, but I am not too worried about security, and there might be a time in the future that I would love to access the files from the computer in my other room, but by that time I would have installed Breezy Badger.10:18
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claesweiers, check what uid you have with: id10:18
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rrezendeShin_Gouki: use 'beagled' to start the daemon and 'best' to search10:19
weiersI;m sorry if I'm pasting too much, but this is the output:  uid=1000(weiers) gid=1000(weiers) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),108(scanner),109(admin),1000(weiers)10:19
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Shin_Goukirrezende, thx best, idint came up with that10:19
Skidwhats the modules to modprobe for scsi stuff please??10:19
claesweiers, and add to your /etc/fstab in the field that says users to say users,uid=gid=100010:19
Skid!scsi10:20
ubotuSkid: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about10:20
kbrooksweiers: well10:20
Skid!sda10:20
ubotuSkid: I give up, what is it?10:20
kbrooksweiers: show the output10:20
naliothSkid: what are you wanting?10:20
claesweiers, and remount it with: mount -o remount /wcwin10:20
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rrezendeShin_Gouki: best is also added on the Accessories group on the gnome menu10:20
Shin_Goukirrezende, i dont use gnome but thx!10:20
kbrooksof lsof10:20
Skidnalioth: i need to load some scsi drivers, so i can mount my mobile phone10:20
WhistlerWhen breezy is comming out?10:21
naliothSkid: uncle google knows more than ubotu10:21
Hoxzerwhat is good client for newsgroups in ubuntu?10:21
Skidyrah, lookin now10:21
naliothWhistler: oct 1310:21
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weiersclaes, it is still opening my files as read-only (after adding the uid=gid=1000, then saving, and remounting with the mount -o remount/wcwin command10:22
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weierskbrooks, what output do you need?10:23
claesweiers, and now what does ls -ld /wcwin say?10:23
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Skidccooke: dont suppose you're around?10:24
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weiersclaes     drwxr-xr-x  18 root root 8192 1970-01-01 02:00 /wcwin10:24
kbrooksweiers: lsof output10:24
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Shin_Goukirrezende, do u know mono a bit?10:24
joe_so i set up samba and started it up but i cannot see my windows share files10:24
joe_i csn't choose a workgroup either10:24
joe_cant10:25
jussi_anyone what is the command to mount ntfs partitions in boot up?10:25
claesweiers, try then sudo chown weiers.weiers /wcwin -R10:25
weierskbrooks, the output is quite long and I don't think I should paste it all, but the last line says: gam_serve 6638 weiers  148r   DIR    3,6 8192 102940 /wcwin/Old Files/wc/Weiers/My Ministry/Adventist Professionals10:25
kbrooksweiers: rafb.net/paste10:25
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klemenyou can only read ntfs10:26
Skidis there a place where all the modules are stored?10:26
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Skidso i can have a look at them?10:26
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jussi_ok I see10:26
klemenyes, you can rewrite a file, but file must be as bigger as older file10:27
_jasondoes anyone know how to change the icons on links that i add to the palces menu (ie bookmark in nautilus)10:27
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weiersclaes, it is running through my whole hard drive, (partition), but it seems to be saying: operation not permitted after each attempt.10:27
ccookeSkid: what's up10:27
ccooke?10:27
Skidah cool10:27
kbrooksweiers: full output of lsof to rafb please10:28
Skidyou told me to modprobe some scsi modules before, for my k750i - any chance you remember what they were?10:28
claesweiers, Sorry I'm out of ideas.10:28
ccookeI am mildly non-compos-mentis - cold/flu thing.10:28
Skid:/, just got over one myself10:28
ccookeSkid: ah, yes. More to check they were loading.10:28
weierssorry kbrooks, there is another process running at the moment, I'll paste that output in a second.10:28
ccookeSkid: sd_mod and sr_mod would be a good start10:29
Skidyeah, i see the usb loading, but there's no scsi kinda modules loaded from lsmod10:29
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ccookeskid: try those.10:29
joe_i csn't choose a workgroup either10:29
joe_so i set up samba and started it up but i cannot see my windows share files10:29
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ccookeyou might want sg, as well10:29
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ubuntu_user1111Hi All, I'M looking For The _winmac_fstab_ Script...10:29
Seveas!ntfs10:30
naliothubotu: tell ubuntu_user1111 about ntfs10:30
Skidhm, no, no sda* listed10:30
Skidpoo :P10:30
ubuntu_user1111ty..10:30
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AngryParsleywtf? my load average is at 1910:30
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Skidi see the address its loaded too10:30
Skidbut just need the device to mount heh10:30
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ccookeSkid: you see the address? explain, please?10:30
AngryParsleywhenever I update but don't restart, my load average increases10:31
SkidOct  7 21:29:50 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 610:31
joe_alfweiers,  "/dev/hda6  /wcwin vfat rw,users,uid=gid=1000 0 0" and restart your computer10:31
Skidis what i see from messages/syslog / dmesg10:31
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joe_so i set up samba and started it up but i cannot see my windows share files10:31
graemeok.... i've got a wierd problem... i'm running apache2 and when i delete index.html in a directory (i want it to look for index.php) there's still index.html but it comes through with the mimetime x-trash?? wtf?10:31
ccookeSkid: but you don't see anything more?10:31
net_benjois everyone else having problems updating with apt-get last 2 days??10:31
Skidnope10:31
joe_no10:31
graemenet_benjo, nope10:31
Skidbefore it used to say, to sda1 from /dev/ACM0tty or somthing heh10:32
ccookeSkid: try loading use-storage?10:32
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deFrysknet_benjo, not I10:32
net_benjobut my apt-get gets stuck at 50% it can't access any of the repos in my sources.list file...I though it was related to the release of 5.1010:32
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Skidccooke: modprobe use-storage?10:32
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ccookeSkid: yes10:33
Skidccooke: FATAL: Module use_storage not found.10:33
Skidheh :)10:33
deFrysknet_benjo, st http to ftp , might help10:33
deFryskset10:33
ccookeSkid: oh, sorry10:33
Skid(when using use-, not use_)10:33
ccookeSkid: usb-storage10:33
Skidoh hehe10:33
Skidah10:33
ccookeI did say I wasn't entirely with it :-)10:33
Skidthat's it10:33
Skidthank you :D10:33
net_benjodeFrysk:  but why all of a sudden i have to do that...did someting change recently....I mean it used to work fine..10:33
ccookeSkid: it mounts?10:33
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Skidyep, thanks10:33
ccookeodd. hotplug really should work.10:34
deFrysknet_benjo, its a suggestion10:34
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ccookeoh, well. next thing to do:10:34
ccookeadd usb-storage to /etc/modules, reboot and see if it works.10:34
ccookehotplug may get the hint and autoload the scsi modules...10:34
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ccookeif not, you need *those* in /etc/modules10:34
net_benjodeFrysk:  i see..I appreciate it10:35
weiersthanks for the help anyway claes. Joe_Alf ... i made that change in my fstab, and will reboot in a second to see if it works. kbrooks, I'm sorry, I'm still trying to find the place where I need to paste that output that you want10:35
ccookeSkid: okay?10:35
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kbrooksweiers: rafb.net/paste10:35
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ubuntu_user1111how do i run winmac_fstab, i'ts opening Text Editor..10:35
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Skidhmmm, hang on, maybe not10:35
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ccookeSkid: hmm?10:36
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kbrooksubuntu_user1111: chmod +x winmac_fstab10:36
naliothubuntu_user1111: read it in the text editor10:36
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xrefquestion: CAN I INStall GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR and somehow access it from the windows boot screen??10:36
SkidAttached scsi removable disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 - but scsi2/sda isn't in dev10:36
naliothkbrooks: instructions are included in the winmac_fstab script10:36
Skidis it required for a reboot?10:36
ccookeSkid: ...10:36
xrefwindows boot menu, that is10:36
kbrooksnalioth: ok10:36
ccookeSkid: okay, I see several problems here10:37
ccookeSkid: 1) your hotplug is broken.10:37
ccookeSkid: 2) your udev is broken.10:37
Skidwell, I have pcmcia wifi card working? :O10:37
ccookeSkid: hotplug should do all of this for you10:37
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ccookeSkid: udev should automatically create the device node for you10:37
weierskbrooks, brb ... rebooting10:37
ccookeSkid: you're on hoary, yes?10:37
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Skidccooke: yep10:37
ccookeSkid: it's very odd.10:37
ccookeSkid: hmm10:38
Skidmaybe i'll wait until breezy is out on the 13thm then upgrade to it10:38
dhonni need help with ltsp on breezy. can anyoen help me?10:38
ccookeSkid: possibly.10:38
ccookeSkid: it really sound slike you have some fundamental breakage in your system, though10:38
ubuntu_user1111chmod +x winmac_fstab is not working..10:38
Skideep10:39
ccookeSkid: components that should do everything automatically *aren't*10:39
Skidhope i dont have to re-install10:39
Skidccooke: I've noticed my wifi card takes ~1/2mins to get an address from dhcp on bootup10:39
ccookeSkid: I would recommend that you do if you go to Breezy.10:39
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Skidmaybe it's something to do with hotplug10:39
ccookeSkid: that *Can* be normal.10:39
Skidit didn't before though10:39
ccookeSkid: before what?10:39
Skidwhich makes me thing10:39
Skidlast week heh10:39
ccookehmmm10:39
Skidi dont remember installing anything10:39
Skidbar gtkwifi10:40
Skidbut i've removed that now10:40
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njs12345hmm.. I can't remember how to do iptables properly10:40
ccooke... just out of insteres...10:40
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ccookeSkid: sudo dpkg-reconfigure udev10:40
ccookeSkid: sudo dpkg-reconfigure hotplug10:40
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ccookeSkid: try it, then reboot. Can't hurt.10:41
Skidok10:41
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ccookeoh, what's your kernel?10:41
Skidoh I've never seen this hotplug modules thing before10:41
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Skidccooke: it's a defualt install one10:41
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Skidi've no idea where hoary keeps the kernel, so i can't check :)10:41
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njs12345if I connect to the internet through eth0 (via a wireless router) and I want to let a computer attached to my Ethernet card on eth1 access the internet, how would I do that?10:42
Shin_Goukihi how do i verify if i installed MONO corect?10:42
concept10Shin_Gouki, search in Synaptic10:42
ccookeSkid: /boot, and you can get the running kernel with 'uname -a'10:42
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Hoxzeryeah10:42
Skidi mean the sources10:42
Hoxzerguess what :D10:42
Skidoh10:42
ccooke'man uname' will explain some things.10:42
Skidyou're on about the config?10:42
HoxzerI edited wrong file10:42
rob_pnjs12345:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/10:42
concept10Skid, wrong name, sorry10:42
ccookeSkid: I'm just making sure it's an ubuntu kernel, really :-)10:42
Skid2.6.10-5-38610:43
Skidis the kernel from install10:43
frank23I force installed the latest skype because the dependancies were not met. skype works fine but synaptic won't let me install anything because it says skype is broken. How do I fix this^10:43
Shin_Goukiconcept10, is that gui or shell?10:43
ccookeSkid: fine.10:43
ubuntu_user1111LS command do not work on Terminal10:43
Skidnot sure if its supposed to be 686 mind,10:43
Skidit's a p4 laptop10:43
Hoxzerwell can somebody tell me what is orginally inside the file /etc/ld.so.conf10:43
ccookeyou can install the 686 one10:43
HoxzerI should have backup it10:43
Hoxzer:D10:43
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Hoxzeralways backup10:43
Hoxzerwell can somebody tell me10:44
ccookethe package is 'linux-686'10:44
dhonni want to turn all my old computers into ubuntu thinclients anyone can help10:44
njs12345rob_p: danke schon ;) looks good10:44
concept10Shin_Gouki, gui10:44
Hoxzerso I can get my xserver back to business10:44
paulproteusdhonn: You want to look into Edubuntu.10:44
concept10Shin_Gouki, aptitude for shell10:44
Hoxzerhey guys gedit /etc/ld.so.conf and tell me what is inside of it10:44
rob_pnjs12345:  bitte10:44
dhonnbut i want to use 5.10 breezy10:44
weiersjoe-alf when I rebooted, I got some message: wrong fs type, or bad option and it had that 1000 thing in there as well.10:44
njs12345i remember doing it a while ago, but I forgot (obviously)10:44
Hoxzerdamn with you :D10:45
dhonnim having a problem with xdmcp not being enabled even though i enabled it10:45
concept10dhonn, lookup linux terminal server project10:45
Hoxzernevermind I found it out by my self10:45
durthoxzor: /usr/X11R6/lib, and why cant you do this yourself?10:46
ubuntu_user1111ok winmac_fstab worked :} ty...10:46
dhonnit seams to be broken here10:46
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rob_pnjs12345:  Iptables is fairly esoteric and unless you mess with it very often, it's easy to forget!10:46
pc29holaaa de donde son ??10:46
Hoxzerby what command I can start X-server?10:46
weiersjoe_alf when I rebooted, I got some message: wrong fs type, or bad option and it had that 1000 thing in there as well.10:46
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Azrael_-hi10:47
Hoxzerhi10:47
Azrael_-if i start kismet it doesnt display me the signal-strength of the wlan. Any idea how to solve this?10:47
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Shin_Goukiconcept10, do u know in which part i find mono? and what have to stand there so i can see its correct installed?10:47
Skidta10:47
pc29hiii speaking spanish???10:47
keikoznope10:47
nalioth!es10:48
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:48
concept10Shin_Gouki, click search type in mono10:48
joe_alfweiers, maybe your using ntfs10:48
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weiersI'm quite sure it is fat3210:48
pc29hi bipolar10:48
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joe_alfweiers, uid=gid=weiers10:48
bipolarpc29, yo10:49
weiersjoe_alf, just to confirm: this is what is currently in my fstab10:49
joe_alfweiers, type vfat10:49
weiersjoe_alf  /dev/hda6  /wcwin vfat rw,users,uid=gid=1000 0 010:49
pc29si tu de donde eres bipolar ??10:49
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bipolarpc29, not since 5th grade, and even then not very well.10:49
Shin_Goukiconcept10, it shows me broken 1, ... were i can see WHAT is broken..?10:50
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tschweghi10:50
weiersjoe_alf ... it says "command not found"10:50
antixYetr2, no physical problem found.. scanned it with fsck now and no errors found.. no errors found when booting last time but can I trust the disk hmm? :)10:50
carthikhi all, I am trying to backup stuff to my external hdd using rsnapshot - i get an error which implies I cannot create links on the usb hdd - how do I solve this?10:50
tschwegi've got a question about screen resolution and configuration in 5.0410:50
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concept10Shin_Gouki, apt-get -f install from terminal or fix broken in synaptic10:50
Dreamglidercould i play Delta Force Blackhawk down team sabree on ubuntu if i used wine ?10:50
pc29holsa cafuego hablas espaol ?10:50
joe_alfchange uid=gid=your username then remount10:50
tschwegso i've managed to configure xorg to display the correct resolution.10:51
carthikjoe_alf, was that for me?10:51
pc29hiiii10:51
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joe_alfcarthik, nope10:51
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tschweghowever, with each window i open (browser, chat etc) i get some sort of shadow or ghost window on the right side of the window.10:51
tschwegany idea what that might be?10:51
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Hoxzerhey guys...10:51
Hoxzerplz10:51
Hoxzerhelp me10:51
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tschwegoh yeah, and the screen flickers somehow, whenever i move the mouse and a tooltip or something shows. it's really weird.10:52
tombshi ppl10:52
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Hoxzernow :D10:52
carthikHoxzer, ask, unless it is about asking :)10:52
bpfHoxzer, you have to ask something before anyone can help you10:52
bpfis that helpful?10:53
weiersjoe_alf, just to confirm, must I edit fstab to say /dev/hda6   /wcwin   vfat  rw,users,uid=gid=weiers  0  010:53
Hoxzersomebody tell me what is inside the file /etc/ld.so.conf10:53
HoxzerI messed it up so I need to know the default10:53
Hoxzerwhy didn't I backup it :D10:53
carthikHoxzer, /usr/X11R6/lib10:53
carthikjust one line all on itself10:53
joe_alfweiers, yes and remount  againt10:53
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Hoxzercarthik: strange10:53
durti told you that already hoxzer10:53
Hoxzer;/10:53
cevizogludon't understand why Software Updates can't find a package called "tsclient" though it can find all the other packages, and why it keeps bugging me to install it nonetheless...10:54
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HoxzerI wrote that and still gnome display manager wont start10:54
tschwegHoxzer, http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/2.3.1/LFS-BOOK-2.3.1-HTML/x2141.html10:54
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Hoxzertschweg: I'm using irssi at the moment10:54
Hoxzerit is hard to click a link :D10:54
tschwegHoxzer, http://tinyurl.com/acwh710:55
tschwegcopy paste it.10:55
ngmlinux_I'm having some trouble understand the complex pap-secrets file in Ubuntu, I the following when trying to initiate a ppp/pppd connection: pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself10:55
ngmlinux_pppd: but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so.10:55
Shin_Goukiconcept10, thx i removed the broken one!10:55
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concept10Shin_Gouki, np10:55
mirakhi10:55
ngmlinux_why is pap-secrets so much more complex than in other distros?10:55
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HoxzertsCHweg: I can't get into gnome so I dont think so I can copy paste10:56
tschwegfolks, can't someone help me with that screen problem? it's really annoying. on a windows system, the monitor works perfect, but ever since i plugged it into ubuntu, the image seems to be wrong10:56
mirakis there a way with samba to have the home acces protected with a password, but still be able to share folders just as read/write without authentication ?10:56
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durthoxzer: run "gdm"10:56
mirakthis seems incompatibl10:56
mirake10:56
weiersjoe_alf I get this error message:    mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda6,       missing codepage or other error       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so10:56
ngmlinux_tschweg that's ubuntu for you lol10:56
tschwegHoxzer, highlight it with the mouse and irssi will copy it10:56
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SublimeInfidelhey guys10:56
ngmlinux_I'm having some trouble understand the complex pap-secrets file in Ubuntu, I the following when trying to initiate a ppp/pppd connection: pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself10:57
tschwegngmlinux_, hehehe, good one. but still, with my old nokia 17" ubuntu displays correctly.10:57
shambleris there any good programmer's editor for gnome (other than gedit)? i'm coding html/javascript10:57
tschwegjust with the eizo 21" it's fracked up10:57
ngmlinux_hmmm, tschweg10:57
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Hoxzertschweg: I'm totally in the command system so... I dont have a mouse10:57
Hoxzer:D10:57
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tschwegHoxzer, ah too bad then.10:58
ngmlinux_shambler adobe golive is the best but i think it's only OSX and Win compatible10:58
shambleranyone knows wm that is good-looking and easily usable via keyboard (no mouse)?10:58
luihello people, I have a nvidia geforce2 gts/pro which are the drivers I should install for it?10:58
shamblerngmlinux_: nothing for gnome?10:58
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ngmlinux_shamble kate or kwrite maybe?10:58
ngmlinux_shambler kate or kwrite maybe?10:58
carthikso anyone -- why can't i create links on the automounted usb drive??10:59
joe_alfweiers, try kbrooks idea maybe it will work for you and and remove uid=gid=?????10:59
shamblerngmlinux_: nah, i dont want any kde stuff...10:59
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luianyone can help me with nvidia drivers?10:59
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hajikishambler, what are you looking for?10:59
durtlui: nvida-glx10:59
weierskbrooks ... I humbly come back to you for advice11:00
shamblerhajiki: a wm...11:00
shamblerhajiki: window manager11:00
weiersthanks joe_alf11:00
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kbrooksweiers: lsof /path/to/mount_point11:00
durtshambler: xfce11:00
linuxtestdoes anyone know why I can see files on the network, but can not access them?11:00
hajikishambler, try looking up ion311:01
tschwegagain: Has anyone ever had the problem, that a window or a dialog threw a shadow in gnome? Shadow as in a ghost like copy of the open window or dialog?11:01
SublimeInfidelDoes anybody in here live around Greensboro NC?11:01
hajikishambler, http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/11:01
tschweglinuxtest, permission problems?11:01
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SogniXcan anyone tell me if the i386 version of ubuntu (5.10? 5.04?) can read and write to hfs+ partitions (external drive)?11:02
weierskbrooks, I did paste the output where you asked me to paste it a few minutes ago.11:02
luidurt, I installed but for a reason I don't understand now it doesn't work. I have installed hoary now in a new hardrive, a new installation, and doesn't work. with my other installation it worked, any clues?11:02
kbrooksweiers: link11:02
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shamblerdurt: xfce is good usable with only a keyboard?11:02
linuxtestI'm not sure. I can copy the files locally and open them, but when i try to open via the server it says the file doesn't exist11:02
weierskbrooks, but I just ran the lsof /wcwin again, and this time nothing was returned to me11:02
tschweglinuxtest, O_o11:03
kbrookssafe to unmount, weiers11:03
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linuxtestI should add this is on a windows server11:03
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linuxtestlol11:04
[LethAL] !lart linuxtest's server11:04
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weierskbrooks, so I typed umount /wcwin11:04
durtlui: you have to change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to include the line Driver "nvidia" rather than "nv"11:04
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luidurt, I tried glxinfo and glxgears to verify after the drivers install and now those commands give me errors11:04
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durtlui: modprobe nvidia"11:05
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Hoxzerhi again :D11:05
Hoxzerproblem still not fixed11:05
luidurt, ooooooh, yes!!! I forgot that!!!, yes, yes, yes. thank you :)11:05
Hoxzerlike hmm...11:05
Hoxzerit cannot find xserver files11:05
shadeofgreyokay so how do i unmount the disk first?  i tried umount /dev/hdaokay guys i need hlp with using the commandline to accomplish tasks.... in this instance, i need to unzip a whole bunch of archives in the directory where they reside now.  Once the unzip is  complete i need to copy all the .ttf font files into the system directory for fonts... (/usr/shade/fonts)??11:05
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shadeofgreyhow is this accomplished?11:06
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HoxzerI know the problem :D11:08
Hoxzerseems like I have to reinstall my system again11:08
Hoxzerwhy why whyyy11:08
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Hoxzerlike I tried to complai one software and this is what I get from it11:09
Hoxzergnome display manager goes mad11:09
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Hoxzerand now I can't even fix it even if I edited the file like it was orginally11:09
SublimeInfidelAlright guys. I'm going to need some help.11:10
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SublimeInfidelI'm running an Ubuntu and on an Ev0 and I've got an error msg on the boot up.11:10
weiersjoe_alf, kbrooks  .... I've now edited fstab to remove the uid=gid= ... thing, then I umounted /wcwin and mounted it again. Now it seems I have read and write access to all the data.  Now I wish I could understand what i really did so that I don't have to ask for assistance when I try to mount my ntfs drive :-)11:11
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sergi?11:13
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Sanneweiers: you'll find lots of info reading 'man mount' and 'man fstab' ;)11:14
ElNooboStupidoCmon oct 13!!!11:14
weiersThanks Sanne, will do that... I still find the manuals a bit intimidating, but will definitely try.11:14
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Sanneweiers: yeah, at first the man pages seem overwhelning, but you'll get used to it. I did ;)11:15
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SublimeInfidel"/contains a file system with errors, check forced." "/: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY."11:15
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SublimeInfidelAny idea's?11:15
fredforfaenweiers me to , i consider myself to still be a newbie....but give it a go , youll defenately learn something11:15
naliothSublimeInfidel: run fsck manually11:15
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SublimeInfidelSorry, new with Ubuntu11:15
SublimeInfidelMind lending a hand on how to do that?11:15
naliothSublimeInfidel: open a terminal and type "man fsck"11:15
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SublimeInfidel"bash: man; command not found11:16
aleitnerWhats the recommended way to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy RC? Download CD, or change /etc/apt/sources.list by hand?11:16
weiersEvery time I boot up I get the message that HAL is broken. I've been ignoring it for the last 6 weeks, but what manual page should I read to find out what is wrong there and if it is important?11:16
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pabixsorry, does anyone here still have the deb package libdivx4linux in his /var/cache/apt/archive ?11:16
naliothaleitner: see /topic11:16
shadeofgreyokay guys and gals...  i think this is a better question... where can i find a list of all the msot useful command-line commands and how their syntax works?11:16
naliothubotu: tell shadeofgrey about cli11:17
aleitnernalioth: aaahh, cool!11:17
shadeofgrey....  i guess nautilus isnt as stable as i hoped it would be with the 5.10 preview release11:17
robertjdoes breezy Evince do the html forms thing?11:17
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robertjerr not html pdf forms11:17
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aleitnernalioth: the page mentions that this is work in progress. are there any known issues?11:18
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Sanneshadeofgrey: there's the Debian Reference Card I like a lot, it's Debian, not Ubuntu, but most commands should work: http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/11:19
Hoxzercan I somehow set the whole xserver system to ubuntu default?11:19
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ChadzaWhat's the command to rename a single file?11:20
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chavoChadza, mv oldname newname11:21
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fredforfaenChadza use #mv file newfile11:21
SublimeInfidelI can't run "man fsck" because I can't login to root@ubuntu:`$. How do I login into Ubuntu so its @ubuntu instead of @ none?11:21
Shin_Goukinalioth , if i found a very strange mount issue, but its ubuntu releated would it be an good idea to describe somehwere this issue?I mean i can deal now with it but its for sure an ubuntu mount issue!11:21
pabixIt's the name of the machine, SublimeInfidel11:22
ChadzaThank ya all.11:22
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pabixSublimeInfidel At start, choose "recovery mode"11:22
nemopaiceI just Dl linux for the first time. I am trying to install netscape. I have it extrcted on my desktop. does anyone know how to install it?11:23
weiersfredforfaen   sorry, how do I exit a man page?11:23
Seveasnemopaice, netscape?!?11:23
Seveasweiers, q11:23
luipeople, i'm trying to install smeg but i have this message: The following packages have unmet dependencies:11:23
lui  smeg: Depends: python-xdg (>= 0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed11:23
luiE: Broken packages11:23
Seveasnemopaice, try mozilla if you want something that looks like netscape11:23
weiersseveas, thanks, I was trying ctrl q and ctrl esc, but to no avail11:24
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_jasonwow11:24
Seveaslui, use the smeg install script if you're on hoary11:24
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nemopaiceWell I have my email client through netscape11:24
Seveasnemopaice, mozilla thunderbird is the successor of that11:24
lui;) ok Seveas11:24
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megabyte405Hey guys - I just upgraded to breezy, but now my sound is crappy - sounds like it is clipping/too high, and any sound say from Gaim will make Rhythmbox stutter, and this machine has plenty of resources11:24
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nemopaiceI dont know how to intall anything on linux.11:24
b0uncerhow can I update my Gnome to 2.12?11:24
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Seveasb0uncer, by upgrading to breezy11:25
Chadzanemopaice: Check out synaptic11:25
joe_hello11:25
Seveasnemopaice, system -> apmin-> synaptic11:25
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b0uncerSeveas, which happens like how11:25
Chadzanemopaice: Nice interface to installing everything.11:25
Seveassearch for thunderburd11:25
joe_can someone tell me the command line to start samba?11:25
Seveas!tell b0uncer about breezy11:25
b0uncerthanks11:25
nemopaiceok thank you very much11:25
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weiers! tell weiers about breezy11:25
ubotuweiers: No idea11:25
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weiers!tell weiers about breezy11:26
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joe_help?!11:26
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logan001101chii: do you know chobit?11:27
b0uncerhow do I change my reposities' address then?11:27
b0unceror actually, where from Synaptic11:27
eewaldhello! what is the difference between ubuntu-5.10 rc and ubuntu-5.10-preview?11:27
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b0uncer*in11:27
b0uncer"Change your repositories to look for Breezy"11:28
Dr_Willisthe bot has a url for that.11:28
Dr_Willisi think11:28
b0uncerDr_Willis, I don't know how to use that bot, yet11:28
Dr_Willisor the topic has one also :P11:28
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nalioth!upgrade2breezy11:28
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:28
Dr_WillisHmm where is the bot?11:28
cevizogluhere11:28
Dr_Willisubotu help11:28
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zygishei, just installed daily CD image of breezy on my asus laptop, and I can't boot it. on boot when starting hotplug boot process just stops11:30
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zygisany ideas?11:30
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b0uncerDr_Willis, yeah, but where exactly do I change that url11:30
b0uncerin some file or in Synaptics or where?11:30
Dr_Willisb0uncer,  the apt.sources file is in /etc/apt/ I think.. not on a ubuntu system at the moment.. i may be wrong.11:31
weiers!upgrade2breezy11:31
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:31
Dr_Willisor ya can edit them from within synaptic i think11:31
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b0uncerweiers, I've seen that three times now11:31
Dr_WillisI just reintalled.. dident upgrade11:31
b0uncerstill don't know where do I edit that url11:31
b0uncerI hate reinstalling:) woo much windows11:31
Dr_Willis#11:31
Dr_WillisOpen up Synaptic Package Manager11:32
Dr_Willis#11:32
Dr_WillisChange your repositories to look for Breezy11:32
Dr_WillisHmm.. why did it do that.. odd..11:32
weierssorry b0uncer, I was just trying to figure how the exclamation mark works11:32
fredforfaenb0uncer /etc/apt/sources.list11:32
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telonirthere is a problem in using nvidia drivers wit kernel 2.6. can i use kernel 2.4 with packages from ubuntu 5.10/5.04 ?11:32
Dr_Willistelonir,  ive had no problems with them11:32
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b0uncerfredforfaen, thanks11:32
fredforfaenb0uncer do it manually with gedit like this ; sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:32
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telonirkernel 2.4 has no udev :/11:33
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b0uncerlooks like something's happening11:33
b0uncer:D11:34
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mykHey, does anyone know how to fix the problem w/ all of the iso's off of the ubuntu site being corrupted, like the pxelinux.0 file and others arn't correct? Thanks11:34
telonirDr_Willis, ?! no udev in 2.4 ?!11:34
fredforfaengood :)11:34
Dr_Willistelonir,  no clue.. :P11:34
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Dr_WillisI dont use 2.411:34
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fredforfaenb0uncer learn to use locate so you can search for files...man locate11:34
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Dr_Willisi aint had tomess with the kernel in a long time.11:34
lesshastecan any genius here work out how to watch the rocket race here http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032118/11:34
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b0uncerhey I think it's working!11:35
b0uncerthanks dudes!11:35
Dr_Willishttp://www.gnu.org/software/findutils/11:35
b0uncerand good night :)11:35
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Dr_Willisdon wrong channel for that url :P11:35
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telonirwell? the absence of udev doesnt cause problems?11:36
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zygisis there any way to disable hotplug from starting on boot via kernel command line?11:36
telonirwhich ubuntu had kernel 2.4 ?11:37
telonir4.10 or 5.04?11:37
zygis4.1011:37
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hjk57someone recommended using psyBNC on xchat/breezy preview.  can't 'install' it. anyone have any tips?11:37
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Dr_Williszygis,  thers dozens of kernel boot time options.. but it could be somthing befor hotplug thats crashing.. check  the forums/wikis yet?11:37
Dr_WillispsyBNC, :P Ugh.11:38
Dr_Williswhy would someone reccomend it? heh heh.11:38
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hjk57no clue.. also tried using just 'bnc'.. not sure how to configure it though.11:39
hjk57i just want to mask real ip on here.11:39
zygisNah, I believe it's hotplug magic doesn't work, since I get [ok] s on every item before hotplug11:39
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hjk57am open to any sugguestions11:39
telonirso i can get the old kernel and install it on my 5.10 and it will work?11:39
Dr_Willishjk57,  why bother.11:40
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telonirpsyBNC?11:40
telonirwhats it do?11:40
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Dr_Willisits like an irc proxy11:41
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telonirwhy can you need it?11:41
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Dr_Willisit has some uses.. like it can sort of make you stay on irc, then you can connect to it from other macines and still be in same room, or somthing.. i forget.11:42
eewaldthere are two different iso's on ubuntu download pages11:42
eewaldwhat is the difference between ubuntu-5.10 rc and ubuntu-5.10-preview?11:42
Dr_Willisand a proxy would not show your origianl ip.11:42
fredforfaeneewald i guess not much...but i really dont know11:42
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telonirhmm i guess it means i need to get the old drivers11:43
hjk57i'm new irc/xchat.. am assuming red text was a PM (?) if not, sorry for messaging you, Dr_Willis11:43
telonirfor nvidia11:43
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Dr_Willisi dident see no msg. :P11:43
Dr_Willislol..11:43
hjk57hmm11:43
telonirblue11:43
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kbrookshjk57: hi light11:43
Dr_Willisredtext may be text that has your nick in it. hjk5711:43
Dr_Willis:P11:43
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hjk57ohhhhh11:43
hjk57thanks :)11:44
kbrookshjk57: blue is hilight in pm11:44
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kbrookss/pm/query/11:44
InitMasshow do one change which app should be used when opening certain filetypes?11:44
telonirblue is the color the tab marker becomes11:44
fredforfaenrightclick and choose run with?11:44
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hjk57Dr_Willis i just don't like my ip freely available to anyone..  so any tips ?11:45
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telonirhjk57, why not?11:45
kbrookshjk57: it has to be11:45
teloniranyways if psybnc runs on your comp - its your ip11:45
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Dr_Willishjk57,  dont worry about it. every time ive seen some one be paranoid about that on irc.. its not been worth worrying about11:45
Dr_Willisand what telonir  says is true11:45
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telonirits red its red11:46
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[LethAL] hjk57, If it's any comfort, you can request a generica usermask on freenode11:46
Dr_Willisif it was a proboem.. there are features of some irc servers tht can hide Everyones ip..   but aparently the freenode admins dont think its that big an issue11:46
Dr_WillisGneric usermask.. cool11:46
[LethAL] I'm on a server that encodes IPs into Hex or something11:46
[LethAL] yeah, /unaffilated/something11:47
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Dr_Willisif everyone had them  - i guess it could make some banning of the bots a little annoying11:47
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[LethAL] Hehe11:48
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telonirGeneric usermask?11:48
bytecoderI've heard that browser mode is the default in the next ubuntu release11:48
bytecoderis that true?11:48
bytecoderfor nautilus, that is11:48
zygisDr_Willis, it was damn hotplug, see this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=1829499#post1829499 brilliant idea to use init=/bin/sh11:48
kbrooksbytecoder: let me test11:48
[LethAL] telonir, the bit in brackets when someone joins the channel11:48
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kbrooksbytecoder: Yeah.11:48
bytecoderoh11:48
kbrooksbytecoder: in thoery11:48
Dr_Williszygis,  thats just getting you to a 'rescue' shell.. :P what do ya then do to FIX the proboem? :P11:48
bytecoderanybody know why they changed it?11:48
_rb_heyas. I'm having trouble with a samba server. anyone able to help me or tell me where to look next ? I'm trying to get windows to stop being a slag n open the same program from more than one terminal at a time, but it recoins the acces to a dbf file is denied when someone else has logged in already but is no longer using the program. got 4 liscences, and the files worked fine when they were shared on an old win98 machine with the same pat11:48
_rb_hs etc. any ideas ?11:48
Dr_Willisbytecoder,  it was the default last i tried it...11:49
kbrooksbytecoder: i'm sure i configed nautilus at one time11:49
kbrooksicbw11:49
bytecoderDr_Willis, oh11:49
bytecoderI wouldn't know11:49
Dr_Willisbytecoder,  its easially changed..  tehe whole 'browser/spatial' thing is annoying.11:49
zygisDr_Willis, well, at first I need to make my first boot after installation :)11:49
kbrooksbytecoder: probable reason: spatial ... erm is ... annoying11:49
Dr_Willisyou can easially use SPatial mode.. then with a icon/menu/script open to nav mode.11:49
zygisthen further research will follow11:50
Dr_Williszygis,  ouchies. :P11:50
bytecoderI know11:50
telonir"kernel-image" package includes the modules?11:50
Chousukekbrooks: spatial can be useful too11:50
bytecoderI was just wondering, since it doesn't make much sense in a usability-based distro11:50
kbrooksChousuke: in what cases?11:50
kbrooksthe browser mode is VERY usable, bytecoder11:50
ChousukeIf you want to move a lot of files around.11:50
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Dr_Willisbytecoder,  some would argue that Spatial is Less useable... some would argue the opposite11:51
jaydg_rb_, I guess you should have a look at file locking11:51
Chousukeie. organising.11:51
bytecoderkbrooks, that's somewhat of an oxymoron, isn't it?11:51
Dr_Willisdependng on what i am doing.  i use one or another.11:51
bytecoderDr_Willis, nah11:51
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kbrooksbytecoder: i argue it is11:51
ChousukeI launch all my files with Quicksilver11:51
Dr_Willisor i fire up a xterm and use 'mc' , or 'worker' or 'gentoo' or some other 2 pane window manager tool11:51
telonirguys11:51
telonir"kernel-image" package includes the modules?11:51
ChousukeUbuntu needs something like quicksilver.11:51
kbrooksspatial is less usable to me IMO11:51
telonirimportatnt11:51
ChousukeSeriously.11:51
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bytecoder'gentoo'?11:52
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telonirdon wanna mess up my kernel11:52
Dr_Willisbytecoder,  its the name of a disrto and a '2 pane file manager'11:52
Dr_Willis:P11:52
_rb_yeah, have done. theres a thing called oplocks, and ive disable both levels of it, but windows is keeping some sort of cache of it somehow. know how i can kill the cache ?11:52
bytecoderoh11:52
kbrooksbytecoder: a linux distro and a file manager11:52
bytecoderthat's somewhat confusing11:52
ChousukeQuicksilver is ownage, and I've seen nothing like it outside OS X. Ubuntu devs, please clone it. :)11:52
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bytecoderdidn't think it was the distro, just wanted to make sure11:52
_rb_if i had my way, we'd rip the whole lot out n use ubuntu on all the machiunes11:52
Seveasbytecoder, the gentoo distro people stole the name :)11:52
telonir?!11:52
kbrooksSeveas: No.11:52
bytecoderSeveas, sounds about right11:52
Dr_Willisbytecoder,  i think the program was out befor. :P  Gotta love the good old 2 pane file managers11:52
kbrooksSeveas: wrong.11:52
Dr_Willisnow those are useable!11:52
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kbrooksSeveas: gentoo is the name of a penguin too11:53
bytecoderI guess, but only if you use your own twisted definition of 'usable'11:53
bytecodersame to you, kbrooks11:53
kbrooksa species11:53
Seveaskbrooks, then both stole the name :)11:53
bytecoderdidn't have time to respond to your comment before, so that applies to you aswell :)11:53
jaydg_rb_, try to reboot these.11:53
carambolhow/where is et te codecs Breezy11:53
bytecoderanyway, that's all I wanted to know11:54
kbrooksSeveas: penguin name was put on long before gentoo linux and the file manager11:54
bytecoderthanks11:54
carambolsorry where /how i get the codecs,Breezy?11:54
bytecoderooh, and I've got a little treat for you spatial haters out there :)11:54
kbrooksbytecoder: link11:54
bytecoderhttp://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/finder.ars/111:54
bytecoderit's a great read11:54
_rb_have done, but then the next machine to log in somehow locks the files for all the other windows machines, even tho the server reports that there aren't any files locked except for the log which gets opned when windows complains that the other files are locked and wants to log the issue11:54
telonir"debian" has a meaning?11:54
bytecoderI recommend it for everyone11:54
durtis there a command to see what files are taking up how much disk space?11:54
Seveastelonir, yes11:55
kbrookstelonir: look it up11:55
Seveasdebian is short for Deborah Ian11:55
stperedurt, du11:55
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Yetr2telonir, 'anal retentive'11:55
SeveasIan is Ian murdoch, founder of Debian11:55
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bytecoderwho's deborah?11:55
SeveasDeborah is his wife11:55
bytecoderoh11:55
bytecodermakes sense11:55
bytecoderor does it...11:55
bytecoderyeah11:55
bytecoderok, thanks again11:55
ChousukeDeb Ian. :)11:55
bytecoderbye11:55
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windexinstead i will just be confused11:55
apsyncwhat's a good ircd for linux?11:55
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Chousukeircd? :P11:55
durtthanks stpere11:56
apsyncirc server11:56
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Chousukeyes, I know11:56
telonirnot much help : http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=+debian11:56
ChousukeI was suggesting ircd11:56
apsyncoh11:56
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jaydg_rb_, guess the database has to be r/w11:56
apsynchehehe11:56
Pluki like ircd-hybrid11:56
Chousukesince iirc, that package exists. :P11:56
jaydg;)11:56
apsyncOk, thank you11:56
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telonirwhy run and irc server?11:56
teloniran11:56
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_rb_yeah, at the mo, while we get the damn thing to work, i've shared everything with full permissions, it just keeps deciding that there are problems when access the files11:57
Pluktelonir, for lanparties for example11:57
_rb_(windows says the access is denied)11:57
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telonirlanparties?11:57
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teloniryou cant get a beer through irc...11:57
jaydg_rb_, do you have anything in samba's logs?11:57
jmgmorning all :)11:58
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Plukhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAN_party11:58
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kbrooksdefine spatial?11:58
r0xoRtelonir, sure you can :)11:58
r0xoRlol downgrading? wtf?11:58
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_rb_nah. well i'd actually have to look, but samba is working fine as far as i know. I'm so close to just opening up the damn thing and saying that each computer can use the thing and screw safety11:59
mirakyou need to be root to share a windows folder ?11:59
mirakthat's ridiculous11:59
jaydgusually you have machine access log whith everything in them, as well as denied access12:00

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