[12:00] <funkyHat> mark_, did you see what ubotu said about ntfs?
[12:00] <mark_> funkyhat, I am still trying to get used to linux and before I completely switch over I am on a dual boot. My music is still on the NTFS partition. I did not just create one to put my music on so it would be a pain in the ass LOL
[12:00] <grayman> Dark-Druid, he has warty i think -_-
[12:00] <mark_> ubotu read my last to funkyhat
[12:00] <ubotu> mark_: I give up, what is it?
[12:00] <Dark-Druid> oh :)
[12:00] <kbrooks> ubotu: playwithbot =~ s/play with me/play with me in the channel/
[12:00] <ubotu> kbrooks: OK
[12:00] <funkyHat> mark_, i'll have ubotu send it to you as a /msg
[12:00] <Dark-Druid> sorry i'm pretty new to ubuntu ...
[12:00] <Phinite> I have a raid device in a server but I want to put Ubuntu on it.  unfortunately, after the os install, it simply doesn't boot correctly.  what do I need to look at?
[12:01] <pal> hi, is there anyone here who has configured bochs ?
[12:01] <tuxedo_kamen> Dark-Druid, I get this error: E: Impossvel encontrar o pacote j2sdk1.4
[12:01] <tuxedo_kamen>  <--- "impossible to find the package j2sdk1.4"
[12:01] <funkyHat> !tell mark_ about ntfs
[12:01] <pal> how do i configure it or where can i get config file for bochs?
[12:01] <mark_> funkyhat thanks
[12:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mark_ about ntfs
[12:01] <funkyHat> he already got it nalioth
[12:01] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: ubotu will help you
[12:01] <thalg> How can i install gdesklet in ubuntu whit APT-GET ???
[12:02] <Phinite> thalg: apt-get install ?
[12:02] <grayman> tuxedo_kamen, erm. did you find out wich ubuntu you have?
[12:02] <nalioth> thalg: "sudo apt-get install gdesklets"
[12:02] <Kartoffel> try with apt-cache search gdesklet if apt-get install can't find
[12:02] <thalg> Ok,
[12:03] <green_earz> hello and I hope some onecan help with my question. on the page >  http://www.tsf.org.za/index.php?option=content&task=blogsection&id=19   there a reference to " LearnLinux project " first pargrapha  but where do I find a link for this ? thanks all
[12:03] <guidan> sorry i still can't find  nautilus
[12:03] <tuxedo_kamen> hum... now I am havign a problem... despite clicking the download thing, the "Downloads" window is still empty!!! :|
[12:03] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, sorry i guess i can't really offer any more help on the subject as i am pretty new to ubuntu and not totally sure what versions of java each release has or at what repositories carry what java packages..
[12:04] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: check your download directory
[12:04] <tuxedo_kamen> :| where is the default one?
[12:04] <Phinite> any help on booting to a highpoint 302?
[12:04] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: your home directory
[12:04] <pgA-PIN-> hey guys and gals could anyone tell me if I can run valve games on this linux OS? or do I have to pay for software to do it.
[12:04] <Phinite> I'd rather not raid it as i'd like to use the drives fully and then back them up
[12:05] <mark_> funkyhat, I have take the script you linked me to and saved it as a .sh file, which I think is what I was suppose to do. Can you confirm that?
[12:05] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, ok, thanks, just found it!
[12:05] <nalioth> mark_: which script is that?
[12:05] <thalg> Nope, i think I have some other adress in my sourses.list, but what adress ???
[12:05] <tuxedo_kamen> however, how can I make the downloads appear in the "Downloads" window?
[12:05] <funkyHat> mark_, just save it as the same filename as it had originally, although saving it as a .sh file shouldn't hurt
[12:05] <funkyHat> nalioth, the ntfs / fstab editor thingy
[12:05] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: if the download only lasts half-second, it wont show up
[12:05] <poningru> tuxedo_kamen: what are you talking about? in firefox?
[12:06] <pgA-PIN-> any idea on running valve games ?
[12:06] <tuxedo_kamen> yeah, but more than 60 MB don't take half-second! :|
[12:06] <nalioth> mark_: in *nix, it doesnt matter what suffix you use, but adding .sh to this on is ok (you still need to read it in a text editor)
[12:06] <tuxedo_kamen> poningru, yeah, i guess
[12:06] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, depends on your connection :P
[12:06] <mark_> nalioth, funkyhat, I saved it as a .sh so now how do I run it
[12:06] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: did you get the file or the torrent?
[12:06] <funkyHat> mark_, read the file
[12:06] <tuxedo_kamen> fil,e 62 MB or something
[12:06] <kbrooks> mark_: sh foo.sh
[12:06] <funkyHat> kbrooks, he needs to read it first :P
[12:07] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: which ubuntu are you using? breezy or hoary?
[12:07] <tuxedo_kamen> hoary, I think
[12:07] <logan001101> what is the backport to download LIRC
[12:07] <pupil> how do I install jave runtime environment?
[12:07] <mark_> kbrooks, sadly I can't tell if you are helping or if that was a joke...
[12:07] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: did you open a terminal and type "lsb_release -a" ?
[12:07] <Almindor> how can I get libc sources is there a package?
[12:07] <_jason> !tell pupil about javadeb
[12:07] <mark_> funkyhat, nalioth, I see now thanks
[12:07] <kbrooks> mark_: i was helping
[12:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pupil about javadeb
[12:07] <logan001101> what is the backport to download LIRC
[12:07] <kbrooks> foo is just a example
[12:07] <tuxedo_kamen> -_- now I can't open a console! >_<
[12:07] <_jason> nalioth:  ha too slow
[12:07] <tuxedo_kamen> brb, sorry
[12:08] <funkyHat> mark_, kbrooks was helping :)
[12:08] <logan001101> what is the backport to download LIRC
[12:08] <mark_> kbrooks, I figured, it would have been the first time I had been ridiculed by an ubuntu user - felt like I was trying to learn on red hat again
[12:08] <kbrooks> funkyHat: lag? ;)
[12:08] <Almindor> how can I get libc sources is there a package?
[12:08] <ojpd> HELP!
[12:08] <funkyHat> kbrooks, only in my head
[12:08] <logan001101> HELP
[12:08] <logan001101> HELP
[12:08] <logan001101> what is the backport to download LIRC
[12:08] <kbrooks> ojpd: ask
[12:08] <ojpd> can anybody here help me please
[12:08] <pgA-PIN-> GAMES. I would like to run some Windows games on this linux OS . can anyone help me.
[12:08] <pgA-PIN-> I dont know how.
[12:08] <kbrooks> logan001101: dont repeat
[12:08] <_jason> logan001101:  if someone knows they will tell you
[12:08] <ojpd> I recently installed Breezy
[12:08] <kbrooks> ojpd: and?
[12:08] <ojpd> and my resolution is only 640x480
[12:08] <logan001101> ok find
[12:09] <kbrooks> ojpd: so set it
[12:09] <ojpd> it sucks coz back when i was using warty and hoary
[12:09] <tuxedo_kamen> hi
[12:09] <ojpd> i didnt have any probs
[12:09] <tuxedo_kamen> what was the command to see my version once again, please?
[12:09] <the--dud> hmm, ubuntu has no anon cvs?
[12:09] <ojpd> i cant set it coz the only option i have is 640x480
[12:09] <green_earz> haa I back again I think i found what I need > http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/index.html  and  thanks all
[12:09] <guidan> hi guys i'm trying to look for nautilus cd burn, i can find the folder but i can find the icon to excute it
[12:09] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: open a terminal and type "lsb_release -a"
[12:09] <eruin> anyone seeing nautilus crash on synaptic upgrades?
[12:09] <kbrooks> system ->  prefs -> screen res # tried that?
[12:09] <eruin> more specifically when applying changes?
[12:09] <Kartoffel> @pgA-PIN try wine
[12:09] <kevogod> ojpd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from terminal
[12:09] <ojpd> yeps! Tried that!
[12:09] <nalioth> guidan: see the File menu
[12:09] <tuxedo_kamen> LSB Version:    n/a
[12:09] <tuxedo_kamen> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[12:09] <tuxedo_kamen> Description:    Ubuntu
[12:09] <tuxedo_kamen> Release:        4.10
[12:09] <tuxedo_kamen> Codename:       warty
[12:09] <ojpd> ok il try it now
[12:10] <guidan> yes
[12:10] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: dont paste in here
[12:10] <the--dud> thought I'd look into some bugs... see if I could make some patches
[12:10] <kbrooks> tuxedo_kamen: pls dont paste in here
[12:10] <tuxedo_kamen> oh, ok, sorry -_-
[12:10] <kbrooks> tuxedo_kamen: you have warty sounds like
[12:11] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: read what ubotu just sent you (and consider upgrading. hoary is stable now)
[12:11] <tristanmike> nalioth, that is a sweet command
[12:11] <nalioth> tristanmike: which one is that?
[12:11] <djjason> I have a small problem...I am trying to run a shell script I created using tcsh and the script runs java.....but I always get a permission denied on the java/bin directory but I thought I had allready taken care of the permissions
[12:11] <icewt> anyone happen to know if there's a way to tell wget to download all *.mp3 -files that are linked in a certain webpage?
[12:11] <tristanmike> nalioth, to see the version, etc.
[12:11] <kevogod> Or you could wait until the 13th for Breezy.
[12:11] <nalioth> icewt: open a terminal, and type "man wget"
[12:12] <ojpd> how can I specify the Bus Identifier?
[12:12] <kevogod> ojpd, Leave it as the default.
[12:12] <tuxedo_kamen> -_- I tried his command, but it doesn't work either
[12:12] <aquarius> Is there a GUI CD burner that I can use to say "burn this list of files" which doesn't require me to know about SCSI 0,1,0-style device IDs and can do a burn unattended?
[12:12] <grayman> tuxedo_kamen, erm. its warty
[12:12] <ojpd> ok will try
[12:12] <grayman> tuxedo_kamen, no wonder
[12:12] <icewt> nalioth, i have. haven't found a way
[12:12] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: on warty warthog you'll have to visit the java wiki and build it yourself
[12:12] <tuxedo_kamen> it says something like.... the package is referenced by other one, but doesn't exit
[12:13] <grayman> tuxedo_kamen, you need to upgrade distro
[12:13] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: ubotu sent you the URL
[12:13] <ojpd> how much is 64mb of memory in kb?
[12:13] <kevogod> ojpd, Just leave it blank.
[12:13] <BioVorE> 64000 / 1024
[12:13] <kevogod> Actually, it is 64 * 1024
[12:13] <kbrooks> BioVorE: no, inaccurate measurement
[12:13] <icewt> nalioth, actually wget -r http://something and/or wget --mirror http://something should work, but in this particular case those don't seem to work
[12:14] <BioVorE> from sales man number
[12:14] <ojpd> use kernel frambuffer device interface??
[12:14] <ircuser9876> icewt: try something along the lines of  $ wget -r -nd --no-parent -A "*.mp3" http://www.site.com/mp3
[12:14] <mark_> what is the best DVD ripping program. I will also need to be able to burn the ripped file
[12:14] <tuxedo_kamen> hum, how can I upgrade to hoary?
[12:14] <nalioth> icewt: it can be done, my friend
[12:14] <mylastmorning> how do you run programs in wine?
[12:14] <mark_> tell tuxedo_kamen about horay upgrade
[12:15] <funkyHat> mylastmorning, generally double click on the program
[12:15] <ojpd> use kernel frambuffer device interface??  <-- yes or no???
[12:15] <tuxedo_kamen> :S he didn't tell me anything
[12:15] <mylastmorning> funkyHat, do I have to run wine while doing this?
[12:15] <funkyHat> mylastmorning, that should launch wine
[12:15] <tuxedo_kamen> ubotu, tell tuxedo_kamen about hoary upgrade
[12:15] <mylastmorning> ok thanks funkyHat.
[12:15] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: there is no such document
[12:15] <tuxedo_kamen> :S
[12:15] <tuxedo_kamen> so, how can I install it?
[12:16] <funkyHat> you can do it $ wine /path/to/app.exe but just opening the file in nautilus works just the same
[12:16] <kevogod> ojpd, No
[12:16] <kevogod> ojpd, Or yes, it don't really matter
[12:16] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: ubotu will send you a URL, and you can substitute 'hoary' for "breezy"
[12:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tuxedo_kamen about upgrade2breezy
[12:16] <propagandhi> tuxedo_kamen: its easy, update all references to warty to read hoary in the /etc/apt/sources.list file then do apt-get update and the apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:16] <httpdss> im wanting to install ubuntu on a 32MB RAM iMAC and i need some recomendations ... would xconfig (xfce4) work ok on so little ram ??
[12:17] <propagandhi> or sudo apt-get update etc
[12:17] <icewt> ircuser9876, thanks, i've already tried something like that though, but that's a bit different
[12:17] <edgarin> howto install library libgnomedb-2.so.3?????????????????
[12:17] <Stricklin> I still cannot install wine: "Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. E: Package wine has no installation candidate."
[12:17] <WiFiTux> anyone has a line for http proxy with apt-get? In apt.conf I assu,me?
[12:17] <nalioth> httpdss: buy more ram
[12:17] <ircuser9876> icewt: yeah, some sites seem to block all wget requests no matter what you do...
[12:18] <MMXGN> guys, when I am trying to install libfam0, libfam0-dev synaptic wants to remove the whole system, how can I avoid that?
[12:18] <WiFiTux> sososhomoone?
[12:18] <httpdss> nalioth: isnt there any WM which can work on 32MB RAM ??
[12:18] <MMXGN> (using breezy)
[12:18] <nalioth> httpdss: you can try *box
[12:19] <MMXGN> httpdss, wmaker
[12:19] <kevogod> ojpd, Still with us?
[12:19] <frank23> MMXGN: did you add strange repositories?
[12:19] <nalioth> httpdss: but i'd recommend more ram (it's cheap)
[12:19] <tuxedo_kamen> hum.... >_> listen... <_< hum... this is 500 MB of downloads, are you sure this will make my life with java easier?
[12:19] <ompaul> twm will
[12:19] <lakin> So, on the computer that my dad uses, (Hoary install from CD), whenever he runs firefox it puts a file called 'ver' with 1.0.2 on the desktop.   Any ideas why? And how I could fix that?
[12:19] <MMXGN> frank23, only the multiverse and stuff of breezy
[12:19] <tuxedo_kamen> (sorry to ask for this, but in portugal we have a monthly limit of 4 GB per month)
[12:19] <zeroverse> httpdss, use damn small linux
[12:19] <Dark-Druid> WiFiTux, you could try export http_proxy=http://yourproxy:port before running apt-get
[12:20] <propagandhi> tuxedo_kamen: how do you mean your life with java
[12:20] <frank23> MMXGN: it does the same for me in hoary
[12:20] <tuxedo_kamen> i just want to install the same java I have on university, and also install javadoc!
[12:20] <WiFiTux> Dark-Druid: nah, there is an option in apt.conf...
[12:20] <httpdss> k thx ...
[12:20] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, you could maybe try downloading java from sun's website
[12:21] <tuxedo_kamen> i did that, but it doesn't seem to work!
[12:21] <WiFiTux> Dark-Druid: but that worked. :)
[12:21] <propagandhi> tuxedo_kamen: i installed from the sun website and it works fine for me
[12:21] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: visit shipit.ubuntu.com
[12:21] <propagandhi> tuxedo_kamen: its in your path right?
[12:22] <tuxedo_kamen> yeah, I installed it, but it doesn't work very good
[12:22] <`123> quick question: what do i have to do to get vlc or any other media player other than totem to play videos that are being accessed from another box?
[12:22] <propagandhi> tuxedo_kamen: and once you've visited that site, wait a few months and you'll have hoary
[12:22] <zeroverse> 123 how are you accessing them? through web interface or networking?
[12:22] <Dark-Druid> propagandhi, he might as well wait a few more days till breezy is available before ordering then :P
[12:22] <`123> networking
[12:22] <propagandhi> Hi _dr_nick_
[12:23] <_dr__nick_> hi everybody!
[12:23] <propagandhi> Dark-Druid: i totally agree
[12:23] <zeroverse> can't you just right click > properties > open with command line 'vlc'?
[12:23] <`123> no video
[12:23] <`123> :(
[12:23] <`123> i can hear sound fine, and if i copy it to this box i can view it perfectly fine
[12:24] <Phinite> is there a way, during install, to have the boot record written to a floppy?
[12:24] <tuxedo_kamen> i don't have a few months... I just need to install javadoc, I need to deliver this work by monday! :|
[12:24] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, to get javadoc you need ant...
[12:24] <Dark-Druid> if i remeber correctly..
[12:24] <tuxedo_kamen> what's ant?
[12:25] <Phinite> a build tool.  quite handy actually
[12:25] <tuxedo_kamen> hum, how can I get it? synaptic?
[12:25] <Dark-Druid> the tool you use to build javadoc ...
[12:25] <Dark-Druid> how do you build javadoc documentation at the university?
[12:25] <zeroverse> 123, what exactly do you "open with"?
[12:25] <tuxedo_kamen> no idea, never tried it...
[12:25] <`123> yes
[12:26] <Dark-Druid> well in breezy ant is in synaptic
[12:26] <Dark-Druid> not sure if you have it or not..
[12:26] <Phinite> should be able to apt-get it though
[12:26] <Phinite> tuxedo_kamen: do an apt-cache search ant
[12:26] <zeroverse> 123, are you using breezy or an earlier version?
[12:26] <`123> horay 5.04
[12:26] <jrattner1> Anyone heard of you speakers making a noise when your phone is about to ring and ringing? (not purpesoley)
[12:27] <MMXGN> k solved it
[12:27] <zeroverse> and it says "vlc" not "vlc for GTK+"?
[12:27] <MMXGN> it was under libgamin0-dev
[12:27] <`123> vlc for gtk+, but i just type vlc in the command line option
[12:27] <Dark-Druid> jrattner1, is that a cell phone?
[12:27] <zeroverse> and it's not working?
[12:27] <zeroverse> with "vlc"?
[12:27] <zeroverse> just sound?
[12:27] <`123> no video :(
[12:27] <`123> yup, just sound
[12:27] <zeroverse> that's werid
[12:27] <Kyral> It should be VLC Media Player
[12:27] <`123> i only get video on totem :(
[12:28] <zeroverse> but if you copy it to your local machine, it works fine?
[12:28] <jrattner1> Dark-Druid, yes
[12:28] <`123> yes
[12:28] <Dark-Druid> jrattner1, its pretty normal i think ...
[12:28] <tuxedo_kamen> ok, I installed ant, what next?
[12:28] <jrattner1> but why would the cell phone interfere with the speakers
[12:28] <_dr__nick_> jrattner1: happens all the time here... try leaving it on top of a guitar amp...
[12:28] <Phinite> jrattner1: do you have bluetooth?  that messes with mine heavily
[12:28] <Dark-Druid> jrattner1, not sure of the physics .... something to do with frequencies i guess..
[12:29] <test34> jrattner1, your monitor could interfere with your radio, so I guess your cell phone could interfere with your speaker ;)
[12:29] <propagandhi> jrattner1: its totally common, it can also do it when your cell phone is communicating with the network - car stereo speakers etc get affected. Its just a part of life
[12:29] <jrattner1> Phinite, oh yeh, i have bluetooth but my girlfriends phone cause the interference as well
[12:29] <tuxedo_kamen> >_<
[12:30] <tuxedo_kamen> anyone, I just installed ant, now how can I install javadoc?
[12:30] <jrattner1> science is so crazy
[12:30] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, sorry forgot to answer...
[12:30] <propagandhi> jrattner1: did you only just notice it does that?
[12:30] <zeroverse> 123 what speed is the network you're trying to transfer over?
[12:30] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, its there.... you use ant javadoc to generate javadoc documentation
[12:30] <`123> 100mbps
[12:30] <Dark-Druid> of course i think you have to set up a proper ant build file ...
[12:31] <jrattner1> Propagandhi: I just got the speakers, they like mid range twenty dollar speakers from best buy
[12:31] <tuxedo_kamen> >_<
[12:31] <propagandhi> jrattner1: that could also be a contributing factor
[12:31] <tuxedo_kamen> i can't, it doesn't find build.xml
[12:31] <zeroverse> I'm mystified...but this might give you somewhere to start: http://www.videolan.org/doc/faq/en/index.html#id238615
[12:31] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, that is the ant build file i just mentioned
[12:31] <war-totem> has anyone gotten battlefield 2 to work in ubuntu?
[12:31] <tuxedo_kamen> -_- sorry, but that sounds like chinese to me
[12:31] <`123> yeah, im stumped also :( forums and google have failed me :(
[12:32] <`123> ill check that out, thanks
[12:32] <Telonir> first question: ubuntu vs debian unstable?
[12:32] <Dark-Druid> hehe tuxedo_kamen maybe you should try the java channel or something :P
[12:32] <tuxedo_kamen> >_> any idea where is it?
[12:32] <Dark-Druid> Telonir, don't you think answers would be a little biased in this channel? :P
[12:32] <ompaul> Telonir, that is not a question, it is a sudo statement :-)
[12:33] <tuxedo_kamen> oh, nevermind >_>
[12:33] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, not sure :P ... you could try and find some ant tutorials off google or something :P
[12:33] <ompaul> Telonir, is there a question in there, like which is better? or is it something else?
[12:33] <propagandhi> Telonir: obviously its a matter of opinion, but debian unstable is falling by the wayside
[12:33] <Telonir> Dark-Druid, dont care
[12:33] <propagandhi> Telonir: so i'd say ubuntu all the way
[12:33] <propagandhi> Telonir: and i've used most commonly used distros, i came back to ubuntu
[12:33] <Telonir> is it stable?
[12:34] <Dark-Druid> tuxedo_kamen, apparently i can't pm cause i am not registered
[12:34] <propagandhi> Telonir: i personally say YES
[12:34] <Telonir> ever used freebsd?
[12:34] <Dark-Druid> propagandhi, did you come crawling back? :P
[12:34] <propagandhi> Telonir: but like any distro, and even like M$ some people have problems here and there
[12:34] <ompaul> Telonir, there is a stable edition that is almost 6 months old, the next version is out 13th Oct, and yes I have used FreeBSD even the 5.x series
[12:35] <propagandhi> Dark-Druid: i came back with my head hanging down saying, I knew i should have stayed on ubuntu instead of madly testing every distro available to mankind
[12:35] <Phinite> I have just installed ubuntu onto a system that uses a raid controller and now at the reboot, it won't boot.  what can I do?
[12:35] <ompaul> Telonir, and I used 0.95 iirc
[12:35] <ompaul> or .99
[12:35] <Telonir> freebsd was great but made a lot of trouble with linux compat libs
[12:35] <propagandhi> Telonir: i have used FreeBSD- NetBSD-PCBSD, Suse, Slack, fedora, frugalware, ark, arch, a-linux you name it
[12:35] <Telonir> 5.10 preview=?unstable?
[12:36] <Suepahfly> anyone else here having problem with updateing firefox thrrough synaptic ?
[12:36] <nalioth> Telonir: it releases oct 13
[12:36] <Telonir> debian too?
[12:36] <djjason> can someone help...I am trying to run a java program through tcsh and I always get a permission denied error on the java/bin directory
[12:36] <propagandhi> Telonir: i love FreeBSD, but it just cant do everything i want easily, and i need to be productive
[12:36] <httpdss> Phinite: Check logs
[12:36] <Dark-Druid> propagandhi, you should try gentoo :P
[12:36] <ompaul> Telonir, offically yes unofficially it is rock solid afaics
[12:36] <propagandhi> Dark-Druid: i did
[12:36] <Telonir> nalioth, so whats with the preview thingie?
[12:36] <propagandhi> for a long time
[12:36] <Dark-Druid> ah ok :)
[12:36] <Dark-Druid> thats where i am coming from now..
[12:36] <propagandhi> Dark-Druid: but got sick of the compile time
[12:36] <propagandhi> and the temptation to tweak and fiddle to make the ultimate efficient OS
[12:37] <ompaul> Telonir, its RC
[12:37] <propagandhi> it just wasnt worth the time
[12:37] <Dark-Druid> propagandhi, yeah that was my main problem...
[12:37] <Dark-Druid> i loved tweaking and messing around..
[12:37] <kevogod> FreeBSD is more productive than Gentoo.
[12:37] <Telonir> release candidate?
[12:37] <Phinite> httpdss... given that I can't boot the computer, how?
[12:37] <propagandhi> when ubuntu is damn fast for me anyway
[12:37] <Dark-Druid> and ended up with a very unstable system
[12:37] <ompaul> Telonir, final rc at that
[12:37] <Phinite> that's the problem I'm having.
[12:37] <Phinite> I just want to boot
[12:37] <kevogod> Plus, their site was redesigned.
[12:37] <Telonir> freebsd has binary packages :)
[12:37] <zeroverse> prop, that's how i feel about all the distros.  Ubuntu (breezy) is the one distro that installed with zero problems--and that saves alot of time
[12:37] <propagandhi> i got so sick of having to rebuild the system around itself every time i made a significant change
[12:37] <Phinite> no ide drives, just serial ata
[12:37] <ompaul> Telonir, so has ubuntu about 17.5k of them
[12:38] <propagandhi> zeroverse: couldnt agree with you more
[12:38] <Telonir> well debian based stuf is bin-packages based...
[12:38] <propagandhi> and i like an OS that has good hardware detection, so i dont need to fiddle to get my best resolution etc
[12:38] <kevogod> FreeBSD has proprietary binary packages.
[12:38] <kevogod> There.
[12:38] <propagandhi> even gentoo has the ebuilds etc
[12:38] <ompaul> Telonir, are you trolling or is there a point to this?
[12:39] <Telonir> in fbsd its simple to use both binary and source
[12:39] <Telonir> going to try ubuntu
[12:39] <Phinite> can anyone help?  I really want to get this system up and running
[12:39] <zeroverse> right...i have a big lcd monitor and when i tested xandros out it wouldn't even boot!  ubuntu got the native res and mhz right on first boot.  I was impressed
[12:39] <propagandhi> Telonir: try it and you will be happy i believe
[12:39] <grayman> anyone else get an error in breezy when does System-> About Ubuntu?
[12:39] <ompaul> Telonir, so grab the live CD for 5.10 check it out
[12:39] <Telonir> tried so far: an old RH, freebsd,debian, and now fedora.
[12:39] <dmk> grayman, its a known bug. cant remember the number
[12:39] <Telonir> why live cd..?
[12:39] <propagandhi> zeroverse: same here, on Dell Inspiron 5150 (1400x1050) and HP DV4000 (1280x800)
[12:39] <grayman> dmk, ah
[12:40] <grayman> dmk, thought that it maybe me broke something again
[12:40] <Telonir> gonna try the real thing
[12:40] <httpdss> Phinite: does recovery mode work ??
[12:40] <ompaul> Telonir, great, I would say pop in 5.10
[12:40] <Phinite> how do I do that httpdss?
[12:40] <Phinite> from the install cd?
[12:40] <Phinite> is there a way?
[12:40] <misfit_toy> anybody else have their amaroK broken in the last 2 days? mine got whacked on tuesday's update
[12:40] <propagandhi> Telonir: i dont mind the redhat based systems to some degree, but the package tools are crap
[12:41] <zeroverse> ompaul i didn't get an error...there's just no doc to load it looks like
[12:41] <dmk> grayman, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16982
[12:41] <telemaco> has anyone problems with nautilus-sendto in breezy ?
[12:41] <grayman> dmk, thanks
[12:41] <ompaul> zeroverse, that was not for me :)
[12:41] <Telonir> fedora (imho) is slower than debian
[12:41] <zeroverse> ompaul, i think they'll have an "about" file ready on the realease date
[12:41] <Telonir> and its huge
[12:41] <Telonir> 2.4gb vs 1.1 on deb
[12:41] <misfit_toy> Telonir, yes it is, but it's a nice distro.
[12:41] <propagandhi> Telonir: absolutely, and way too bloated
[12:41] <httpdss> Phinite: from grub
[12:41] <Kartoffel> if I enable a client with Xhost, does this client also stay until the next reboot?
[12:42] <httpdss> Phinite: or lilo
[12:42] <Phinite> httpdss: I can't get to grub, it's not seeing a hard drive.  hmm, is there a way to make an ubuntu boot floppy in windows?
[12:42] <Phinite> that might get me there
[12:42] <ompaul> zeroverse, this seems a little left field for me, can you give me a context?
[12:42] <misfit_toy> so nobody here had amaroK nuked from the latest updates? I've removed and reinstalled and still get this wacky error:
[12:42] <misfit_toy> amaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.
[12:42] <misfit_toy> amaroK: [Loader]  amarokapp probably crashed!
[12:42] <darkmodem> Hello all
[12:43] <mark__> Hey guys, could you tell me what a good DVD Ripping program is?
[12:43] <crimsun> misfit_toy: as I stated last night, it works fine here
[12:43] <mark__> Hey guys, could you tell me what a good DVD Ripping program is?
[12:43] <nalioth> mark__: dvdrip
[12:43] <misfit_toy> crimsun, thanks but I was hoping someone else had this issue. ;)
[12:43] <darkmodem> mark_> try drip
[12:43] <misfit_toy> weird
[12:43] <mark__> nalitoth, thanks, what do you think about darkmodem suggesting drip?
[12:43] <misfit_toy> wth is valgrind anyway? lol
[12:43] <crimsun> misfit_toy: apt-cache show valgrind
[12:44] <mark__> nalioth, thanks, what do you think about darkmodem suggesting drip?
[12:44] <Phinite> hmm, I could make an ubuntu boot cd, that might do it, manually edit the boot that way
[12:44] <nalioth> mark__: if it works, use it
[12:44] <propagandhi> Phinite: any live cd would do if you have one handy
[12:44] <tuxedo_kamen> hum, can anyone teach me how to use the path environment variables?
[12:45] <misfit_toy> crimsun, is that something that can be safely removed? could that be the issue? (valgrind)
[12:45] <mark__> nalioth, I do not see DVDRIP in Synaptic and that is the only way I know how to install a program
[12:45] <propagandhi> tuxedo_kamen: permanently modify or temporarily
[12:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tuxedo_kamen about cli
[12:45] <tuxedo_kamen> permanentely
[12:45] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: read up with what ubotu posted
[12:45] <crimsun> misfit_toy: valgrind is not installed by default
[12:45] <nalioth> mark__: do you have all your sources enabled?
[12:45] <Suepahfly> Don't know if you poeple have seen this, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1  the longest liveing 'bug' in Ubuntu :)
[12:46] <basti__> anyone got any idea why the sound in gaim sounds awful?
[12:46] <misfit_toy> oh well, I guess back to xmms for me, maybe it will fix itself some day, if a remove and reinstall doesn't fix it then something in the updates broke it. I haven't loaded anything here lately.
[12:46] <httpdss> Phinite: you could also try a floppy with grub on it
[12:46] <propagandhi> tuxedo_kamen: try looking at the second post or so here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1586.html
[12:46] <ompaul> Suepahfly, yeap it is being tackled every day in some little and big way
[12:47] <zeroverse> misfit toy you might also try beep-media-player
[12:48] <zeroverse> apparrently the guys at beep-media-player update the software much more often and you can still use your xmms skins if you want
[12:48] <tuxedo_kamen> -_-
[12:48] <darkmodem> I'm having a problem compiling a kernel..  When I do a 'make menuconfig' I get this: "gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found"
[12:48] <tuxedo_kamen> sorry to tell you this, but what the bot and everyone told me just sounded like chinese to me!
[12:49] <nalioth> darkmodem: edit your gcc-version.sh
[12:49] <Shorty`> apt-get install build-essential
[12:49] <Shorty`> :>
[12:49] <Shorty`> ah, that'd work too
[12:49] <mark__> nalioth, when I click on repositories I only see two items in there, Breezy Badger (bianary) and security updates (bianary)
[12:49] <Shorty`> :P
[12:49] <crimsun> he should really install gcc-3.4
[12:49] <darkmodem> cool.  thanks.  I thought I was on 4.0 anyway
[12:49] <thalg> How to install Icon-themes in Gnome ??
[12:49] <httpdss> Phinite: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/recovery/!INDEX.html
[12:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mark__ about sources
[12:50] <erirlar> hi, is there a cover downloader for gnome out here?
[12:50] <nalioth> darkmodem: you can install gcc-3.4
[12:50] <nalioth> erirlar: a what?
[12:50] <Telonir> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:50] <dmk> gcc-4.0 comes as default, install gcc-3.4
[12:50] <chavo> thalg, you can drag them to the theme details window
[12:50] <dmk> then you can export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[12:50] <propagandhi> darkmodem, if you are on 4.0 and you still have the error -  do 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4/' and then try again
[12:50] <thalg> Ok, tnx..
[12:50] <propagandhi> dmk: woops sorry
[12:50] <chavo> thalg, or decompress them in ~/.icons
[12:50] <erirlar> nalioth: a cover downloader for music albums
[12:51] <mylastmorning> how do you get the wmv codecs?
[12:51] <mylastmorning> anyone know?
[12:51] <nalioth> erirlar: i have no clue. try www.gnome-look.org or whatever it's called (maybe gnome-files.org)
[12:51] <Xenguy> !w32codecs
[12:51] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[12:52] <tuxedo_kamen> let me put this straight... >_> what file do i need to edit in order to add something to the path environment variable?
[12:52] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: your .bashrc
[12:52] <darkmodem> thanks propagandhi.  doing that now.
[12:52] <grayman> mylastmorning, codex for what?
[12:52] <tuxedo_kamen> and where can I find it?
[12:52] <grayman> tuxedo_kamen, home dir
[12:52] <Xenguy> tuxedo_kamen: or, for a global config, /etc/profile
[12:52] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: its in /home/tuxedo_kamen/
[12:52] <mylastmorning> for the wmv video format grayman
[12:52] <nalioth> Xenguy: not a good idea to change system files
[12:52] <grayman> mylastmorning, yeah, but for what player?
[12:53] <Xenguy> nalioth: not a good idea to customize your own boxen?  What do you mean - why?
[12:53] <dmk> mylastmorning, if you are using totem-gsteamer you will need it pitfdll plugin too
[12:54] <mylastmorning> I'm using totem.
[12:54] <mylastmorning> grayman, dmk I am using totem.
[12:54] <dmk> mylastmorning, default totem?
[12:54] <mylastmorning> yes dmk
[12:54] <agentfelix> is there a way to install ubuntu without creating a boot cd?
[12:54] <Phinite_2> that was fun
[12:54] <mahangu> agentfelix, any operating system needs to boot to install mate, even windows
[12:55] <dmk> mylastmorning, install gstreamer0.8-pitfdll too
[12:55] <tristanmike> mylastmorning, for wmv it's in the w32 codes, but it won't play new wmv and if you 64 bit, it doesn't play wmv9 yet, as I understand it
[12:55] <mahangu> agentfelix, you can probably boot from a floppy and THEN boot cd, but ull need a boot cd nevertheless
[12:55] <zeroverse> you can technically boot from a memory stick or over a network
[12:55] <basti__> how do I change which keyboard layout that is used at loginscreen ?
[12:55] <agentfelix> ok how can i make a ubuntu boot floppy
[12:55] <agentfelix> it wont boot from cd
[12:55] <mark__> nalioth I did what that link you sent me said to but it still does not give me the package in my screen. I think I deleted it off the list earlier today and I have to add with apt line, is that right?
[12:55] <agentfelix> i wrote 5.04 to a cd
[12:55] <darkmodem> hey propaghandi, what do I do with that 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4/'?  I tried it from a terminal but nothing happened..  do I need to paste that somewhere?
[12:56] <propagandhi> darkmodem: you just execute that
[12:56] <dmk> darkmodem, drop the trailing / though
[12:56] <darkmodem> that's what I thought..
[12:56] <propagandhi> so long as you have gcc-3.4 installed
[12:56] <darkmodem> k
[12:56] <propagandhi> yeah sorry left that / in
[12:56] <zeroverse> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html << boot w/o CD
[12:57] <Shorty`> we use usb2 cdrom caddys
[12:57] <Shorty`> :>
[12:57] <Shorty`> for machines we can't be arsed installing cdroms in
[12:57] <zeroverse> agentfelix have you changed your bios so that it checks the cd rom first?
[12:57] <mylastmorning> tristanmike, where can i get w32 codecs?
[12:57] <mark__> how do I access sources.list?
[12:57] <mark__> how do I access sources.list?
[12:58] <basti__> mark__, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:58] <mahangu> agentfelix, im sorry i cant go in to that, studying for an exam, but someone here willl be able to help you
[12:58] <kevogod> How do you permanently block pop-ups in Epiphany, every time I turn them off, when I restart the program it changes back to the default value.
[12:58] <Kris_k> Trying to play a dvd movie but hte playback is all glitchy and slow, it says DMA is enabled and i have the FGLRX driver installed, x800 vidcard 64 bit cpu, Steaming Video plays fine
[12:58] <tristanmike> !tell mylastmorning about w32codecs
[12:58] <mahangu> mark__, ask once and wait, someone HAS seen you and will reply
[12:58] <green_earz> mark__: or apt-setup  and pick the edit option
[12:58] <airmikey> i get this error when i log into gnome: could not look up internrt address for ubuntu this will prevent gnome from operating correctly it may be possible to correct the problem by adding ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts.
[12:59] <basti__> how do I change which keyboard layout is used at loginscreen ?
[12:59] <mark__> mahangu, sorry I will wait before resending
[12:59] <darkmodem> hmm..  no luck with that command.  I hate to think that I need to downgrade my compiler
[01:00] <war-totem> airmikey, i had that problem in redhat, but it never affected anything
[01:01] <airmikey> i cant connnect to the internet
[01:01] <agentfelix> the website on how to install ubuntu without a floppy works but the file pages to download the needed files doesn't work.
[01:01] <Kris_k> Trying to play a dvd movie but hte playback is all glitchy and slow, it says DMA is enabled and i have the FGLRX driver installed, x800 vidcard 64 bit cpu, Steaming Video plays fine
[01:01] <agentfelix> doesn't anyone know how i can install ubuntu?
[01:01] <war-totem> airmikey, oh, one sec
[01:02] <mahangu> airmikey, go to System -> Admin -> Networking
[01:02] <mahangu> see if your network adapters are setup,
[01:02] <mahangu> are you on ethernet or wifi?
[01:02] <Kris_k> agentfelix did you try mirrors
[01:02] <mahangu> Kris_k, i had some problems, i switched to xine-ui
[01:02] <agentfelix> wasn't any
[01:02] <mahangu> works w/o a hitch
[01:02] <agentfelix> was only direct hot links
[01:02] <Kris_k> mahangu VLC and Mplayer are both playing it crappy
[01:03] <agentfelix> i have the ISO i used nero to BURN the image
[01:03] <mahangu> Kris_k, try xine-ui
[01:03] <airmikey> ok had to boot into openbox..gnome wont boot
[01:03] <Kris_k> mahangu i can get that to work its weird lol
[01:03] <mahangu> airmikey, jump back to console and do /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:03] <mahangu> or stop
[01:03] <mahangu> start
[01:03] <mahangu> Kris_k, heh, same problem yesterday, fixed with xine-ui
[01:04] <Kris_k> Mahangu i have the xine-ui but it complains something about the engine
[01:04] <war-totem> airmikey, try this cat /etc/hostname
[01:04] <mahangu> Kris_k, you need g-streamer, libdvdcss2 and libdvdnav2
[01:04] <mahangu> apt them
[01:04] <mark__> green_earz when I did apt-setup it told me I needed the Ubuntu CD, that didn't seem right so I did it the other way, but shoudl I be worried over the error?
[01:04] <mahangu> agentfelix, wont your bios support cd bootin?
[01:04] <war-totem> airmikey, cp /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.backup
[01:05] <mahangu> mark__, open sources.list comment out the ubuntu cd line
[01:05] <mahangu> first link i think
[01:05] <mahangu> brb
[01:05] <bimberi> agentfelix: have you seen this method? - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:05] <war-totem> airmikey, actually look at this: www.thelinuxreview.com/entry.lxp?xpe=312
[01:05] <jmg> guys i need to rerun grub from a chroot but i am getting an error
[01:05] <mark__> mahangu, ok thanks
[01:05] <mark__> mahangu, I comment using # right?
[01:05] <jmg> mount: special device /dev/mapper/vg-home does not exist
[01:05] <airmikey> ok im in networking
[01:06] <agentfelix> its not my bios
[01:06] <agentfelix> just got the motherboard
[01:06] <war-totem> check out that website, it seems a lot of linux distros have the same problem
[01:06] <agentfelix> its a 2004 plus i flashed the bios with september updates
[01:06] <Lars_G> !java
[01:06] <ubotu> it has been said that java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[01:07] <Kris_k> apt-get cant find those packages mahangu
[01:07] <mark__> ok so I just installed dvdrip with Synaptic and now I cannot find where to launch it
[01:07] <mahangu> Kris_k, universe
[01:08] <mahangu> i may have spelth them wrong
[01:08] <mahangu> mark__, gnome foot -> run
[01:08] <Kris_k> universe
[01:08] <mahangu> drip
[01:08] <jack-> which repository is opera in?
[01:08] <mahangu> or command line, drip
[01:08] <jrattner1> does breezy have better wifi support, not for hardware, but software wise that makes accessing wifi's easier
[01:08] <jack-> cant find it..
[01:08] <mahangu> jack-, opera is not in repos
[01:08] <jack-> oh
[01:08] <mahangu> ubotu tell jack about opera
[01:08] <jack-> thx
[01:08] <mahangu> np
[01:08] <mahangu> ok screw this, im getting distracted
[01:08] <mahangu> off to study guys, laters
[01:09] <mark__> mahangu, I typed gnome foot -> run and it said command not found
[01:09] <mahangu> mark__, try console
[01:09] <mahangu> or see if it's actually installed
[01:09] <mahangu> mark__, ask someone else here, im out, good luck! :D
[01:09] <Lars_G> Hi Seveas, how do you fare?
[01:09] <Ersai> is there something wrong with the apt archives?
[01:09] <mark__> mahangu, thanks buy
[01:09] <jrattner1> does breezy have better wifi support, not for hardware, but software wise that makes accessing wifi's easier?
[01:09] <mark__> Ok someone help me. I installed dvdrip and now I don't know how to run it
[01:10] <darkmodem> propagandhi - with that 'export' command, what file gets affected?  I'd like to see it.  /etc/ I presume?
[01:10] <grayman> mark__, you can find that package in synaptic and see what files and where it installed by right clicking and choosing options
[01:10] <Ersai> mark__ open a shell and type dvdrip --help or man dvdrip
[01:10] <bimberi> jrattner1: i understand it has networkmanager which makes managing wifi easier
[01:11] <mark__> Ersai thanks that worked,
[01:11] <jrattner1> bimberi, where did you find information about this?
[01:11] <jmg> guys what i need to do is access lvm from within my chroot
[01:11] <nalioth> whats a good program to see realtime network usage?
[01:11] <grayman> properties i mean
[01:11] <grayman> or that
[01:11] <jmg> i am getting this error /dev/mapper/vg-shockwave: not found or not a block device
[01:11] <bimberi> jrattner1: oh though lurking on some random irc channel called #ubuntu :)
[01:11] <Ersai> I am having problems accessing the apt archive. Is there something wrong with it?
[01:11] <budreefer> hallooo al
[01:12] <budreefer> all
[01:12] <budreefer> any1 home?
[01:12] <agentfelix> can anyone help me install ubuntu...with a reasonable logical answer?
[01:12] <jrattner1> bimberi, i hope WIFI software sucks right now, its very tedious to choose networks and such
[01:12] <budreefer> sure i can help u agentfelix lol
[01:12] <budreefer> what is your problem?
[01:12] <Kyral> define logical
[01:12] <budreefer> lol nice
[01:12] <windex> agentfelix, define reasonable, logical. i may not be able to help. :)
[01:12] <delltony> anyone mind pasting their repository list to a pastesite please for some reason i can't find mplayer plugin and other things and i have all my repositories in the DEFAULT breezy sources.list enabled
[01:12] <bimberi> jrattner1: FYI here's the wiki page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[01:13] <budreefer> hey tell me something guys....with the default ubuntu install straight from the cd, why is there no prompt to input pass for root??
[01:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell delltony about sources
[01:13] <jrattner1> thanks bimberi
[01:13] <stpere> budreefer, use sudo
[01:13] <budreefer> dunno sudo
[01:13] <agentfelix> i want to install ubuntu
[01:13] <Ersai> root doesnt use a password its disabled. use sudo -s to get a root shell instead
[01:13] <jack-> ubotu: tell jack- about opera
[01:13] <agentfelix> how do i go about that
[01:13] <delltony> thans
[01:13] <jack-> ubotu: tell jack- about sources
[01:13] <jmg> how can i reinstall grub from outside my chroot then
[01:13] <delltony> thanks even
[01:13] <budreefer> o nice
[01:13] <bimberi> jrattner1: yw :)
[01:13] <budreefer> any reason they disabled root?
[01:14] <Ersai> security and simplicity of one password to rule them all
[01:14] <nalioth> budreefer: safety
[01:14] <budreefer> yeah looks pretty sweet ;) thanks for help
[01:14] <nalioth> anyone know of a realtime network analyzer (wanna see whats talking to whom)
[01:14] <Ersai> budreefer: you can enable it by setting a password for it if you wish
[01:15] <budreefer> yeah thats what i did last time
[01:15] <budreefer> i just loaded my other linux
[01:15] <bimberi> root disabled also means less questions during the install :)
[01:15] <Ersai> nalioth: ethereal
[01:15] <budreefer> and used chroot then passwd
[01:15] <budreefer> but...
[01:15] <budreefer> even then the login says root is no good as a name
[01:15] <budreefer> not sure what is missing thar
[01:15] <green_earz> nalioth: iptraf
[01:15] <nalioth> Ersai: ethereal requires parsing at a later time. i dont wish to capture packets
[01:16] <Ersai> nalioth: ahh... shows you how much i know.
[01:16] <budreefer> how would you go about enabling root on my system?
[01:16] <budreefer> not that i really want it hehe
[01:16] <jrattner1> bimberi that think looks cool
[01:16] <Ersai> budreefer: sudo -c 'passwd'
[01:16] <Total> Whats up everyone
[01:16] <rob_p> nalioth:  tcpdump works for me.
[01:17] <bimberi> jrattner1: so do i - looking forward to trying it out myself :)
[01:17] <budreefer> sez the -c is an illegal option for sudo ;)
[01:17] <stpere> sudo passwd
[01:17] <Total> Does anyine know when Edubuntu is releasing?
[01:17] <Ersai> err -c is for su not sudo... sorry...
[01:17] <stpere> the password that will be asked is your current user password
[01:17] <budreefer> nice
[01:17] <budreefer> yeah i got that from using sudo just before thanks stpere
[01:18] <Kris_k> i can freaking compile anything or get anything with apt-get
[01:18] <nalioth> anyone know a network analyzer that shows the programs accessing the network?
[01:18] <Total> yes netsharechk
[01:18] <pawel> nice, finally got acpi, wifi, bluetooth and my printer working. :>
[01:18] <Ersai> kris_k: almost
[01:18] <basti__> how can I change the keyboard layout at login?
[01:18] <Kris_k> i cant *
[01:19] <cevizoglu> can ubuntu breezy boot from external usb2 on a thinkpad?
[01:19] <pawel> brb
[01:19] <nalioth> anyone know a network analyzer that shows the programs accessing the network?
[01:20] <crimsun> cevizoglu: yes
[01:21] <stpere> nalioth, sure
[01:21] <stpere> nalioth, netstat -p
[01:21] <`123> another quick question: ive been searching the ubuntu forums for problems similar to mine, and found two posts from people that had the exact problems that i have. the only problem is that they have 0 replies :( is the solution simple or is there no solution. http://tinyurl.com/ckfr4 http://tinyurl.com/82v23
[01:21] <crimsun> cevizoglu: it can also boot via pxe
[01:21] <Kris_k> This is the error i get when i ./configure xine-lib
[01:21] <Kris_k> For some reason, the requirements for building the X11 video
[01:21] <Kris_k> output plugins are not met. That means, that you will NOT be
[01:21] <Kris_k> able to use the resulting xine-lib to watch videos in a window
[01:21] <Kris_k> on any X11-based display (e.g. your desktop).
[01:21] <Kris_k> If this is not what you want, provide the necessary X11 build
[01:21] <Ersai> Why would i get an Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 82.211.81.182 80] 
[01:21] <Ersai>  every time i try to do apt-update?
[01:21] <Kris_k> dependencies (usually done by installing a package called
[01:21] <Kris_k> XFree86-devel or similar) and run configure again.
[01:21] <mylastmorning> !repositories
[01:21] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[01:21] <rob_p> nalioth:  "netstat -tpln" will show you the pid/program name accessing the port, etc.  Does that help?
[01:22] <Kris_k> what are the requirements for building on X11 ?
[01:23] <zerouser> hello
[01:24] <zerouser> is it possible to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 without loosing configuration information?
[01:25] <rulebraker> im hoping i have come to the right place
[01:25] <rulebraker> is this the place for ubuntu support?
[01:25] <Ersai> apt is simply a connection to port 80 right?
[01:27] <stpere> damn.. my nvidia driver is locking down my machine
[01:27] <Dreamglider> is the post/topic
[01:27] <kbrooks> rulebraker: ask
[01:27] <rulebraker> does anybody know what to do when this happens when i run apt-get for anything (Segmentation Faulty Tree... 73%) i think i fixed it before by removing something but i cant remember what
[01:29] <Dreamglider>  i am updating from 5.04 to .10 from the link in topic > http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes , when it's done downloading will it install 5.10 like when on installs from the cd or what ?
[01:31] <nalioth> Dreamglider: yes
[01:32] <criticalmass120> hi
[01:32] <darkmodem> Thank you everyone for the lovery support.  I'm off to work!
[01:32] <criticalmass120> i just installed ubuntu
[01:32] <criticalmass120> for the first time
[01:32] <Dreamglider> nalioth, ok thanks
[01:33] <rulebraker> the only thing that apt-get will do for me without the (Segmentation Faulty Tree... 73%) is apt-get moo does anybody know how to fix this?
[01:34] <criticalmass120> does anyone know how i can change my wallpaper
[01:34] <criticalmass120> nm
[01:35] <splitta> /joiiin  #mandriva
[01:35] <dmk> see yous all later
[01:35] <rulebraker> well im off to search google (again) if anybody can help me then it would be appreciated
[01:35] <guidan> whats a good video editing software?
[01:36] <jmg> rulebraker: thats an old debian problem i ran into once
[01:36] <jmg> rulebraker: strace apt-get
[01:36] <rulebraker> kk i will see what happens
[01:37] <rulebraker> same nothing different
[01:37] <sambagirl> i just added a bunch of new stuff from synapsis
[01:37] <sambagirl> now i cannot logon to a root
[01:37] <sambagirl> saying an error
[01:38] <_jason> sambagirl:   you mean sudo?  or are you actually logging in as root?
[01:38] <sambagirl> i use the drop down option
[01:38] <grayman> erm. what drop down options?
[01:39] <sambagirl> i probably need to reboot after loading all htese things
[01:39] <bbzidane> is it me or is there problems accessing ubuntu.com sites?
[01:39] <_jason> sambagirl:  hoary or breezy?
[01:39] <sambagirl> over 2 gigs of new stuff from synaptics
[01:39] <`123> (hopefully) quick question: I've been searching the ubuntu forums for problems similar to mine, and I found two posts from people that had the exact problems that i have. The only problem is that they have 0 replies. Is the solution simple or is there no solution? http://tinyurl.com/ckfr4 http://tinyurl.com/82v23
[01:39] <grayman> sambagirl, thats doesnt matter
[01:39] <sambagirl> oh i dont know i tried to install breezy but it did not do
[01:39] <sambagirl> let me try something else.
[01:39] <sambagirl> brb
[01:40] <sambagirl> Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/gdmflexiserver.desktop': File not found
[01:40] <sambagirl> ohno
[01:40] <grayman> hrm
[01:41] <sambagirl> ls: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/gksu.desktop': File not found
[01:41] <grayman> warked before yu installed new stuff?
[01:41] <ErikHK> I have a default-installation of Ubuntu, and my processor is running @ 85-90% all the time, though I am only running gaim, Firefox, some xterm etc... what could take that much??
[01:41] <sambagirl> yes
[01:41] <zenwhen> ErikHK,
[01:41] <sambagirl> i heard about a war between gnome and kde. there was some kind of issue
[01:41] <zenwhen> run the command "top"
[01:41] <Dark-Druid> ErikHK, have you tried top?
[01:41] <zenwhen> and all will be revealed
[01:41] <sambagirl> where/
[01:41] <sambagirl> i cannot get shell
[01:41] <ErikHK> Dark-Druid, zenwhen: yes
[01:41] <grayman> sambagirl, what that have to do with the error?
[01:42] <sambagirl> oh never mind
[01:42] <ErikHK> nano takes alot! :O !!
[01:42] <Dark-Druid> ErikHK, and what seems to be at the top of the list?
[01:42] <ErikHK> nano! :D
[01:42] <sambagirl> it was just a thought
[01:42] <guidan> hi guys nautilus-cd-burner is installed, but i can't find it
[01:42] <criticalmass120> i got a fast question
[01:42] <Dark-Druid> nano??
[01:42] <criticalmass120> can anyone help me
[01:42] <criticalmass120> super fast
[01:42] <ErikHK> sambagirl: why nano??
[01:42] <sambagirl> where do i type in TOP
[01:42] <_jason> crimsun:  just ask
[01:42] <criticalmass120> how do u go about installing icons
[01:42] <sambagirl> nano?
[01:42] <sambagirl> what has nano to do with this?
[01:42] <Dark-Druid> how about using emacs or vi instead? :P
[01:43] <crimsun> _jason: mis-complete.
[01:43] <ErikHK> Dark-Druid: I like nano XD
[01:43] <_jason> crimsun:  yep sry!
[01:43] <grayman> actually vi is much better
[01:43] <sambagirl> Details: Failed to execute child process "/usr/bin/gksudo" (No such file or directory)
[01:43] <sambagirl> everything is not working now
[01:43] <grayman> hrm
[01:43] <grayman> odd
[01:43] <grayman> what did you install?
[01:43] <sambagirl> ohmy god
[01:44] <_jason> grayman:  pm me why vi is better?  I was learning vi, then tried emacs and decided I preferred emacs...
[01:44] <Dark-Druid> sambagirl, sounds like something serious...
[01:44] <Dark-Druid> sure you haven't got a rm -rf /* somwhere in the background? :P
[01:44] <sambagirl> all kinds off games and astronomy, graphics, stuff from synaptics program add manager i just went thru and chose stuff looking interesting.
[01:44] <cevizoglu> vi is outdated, vim is much better
[01:44] <rulebraker> well i will try and sort apt-get out after compiling a new kernel ill be back
[01:44] <sambagirl> ham radio things, chemistry things, many games, all kinds of stuff.
[01:45] <sambagirl> just stuff
[01:45] <grayman> _jason, i was talking about vi is betetr than nano, but if vi is better than emacs... i prefer not to get into this
[01:45] <sambagirl> took hours to finish
[01:45] <eythian> sambagirl, ham radio stuff?
[01:45] <grayman> i dont see why it broke
[01:45] <sambagirl> yes
[01:46] <eythian> sambagirl, you're a ham?
[01:46] <_jason> grayman:  oh I thought you were a vi guy...  I am going to start learning one or the other and have decided on emacs, so I just thought i would hear your thoughts. :D
[01:46] <sambagirl> no my dad is
[01:46] <sambagirl> or he was
[01:46] <eythian> sambagirl, ah, OK.
[01:46] <sambagirl> my brother andi have his stuff
[01:46] <sambagirl> i mean i know morse code
[01:46] <eythian> sambagirl, heh. I have my license, and I don't know morse code :)
[01:46] <grayman> _jason, i do like vi and use it, but im not one of that maniacal fanatics that will kill when hear the word vi
[01:46] <sambagirl> .- -... -.-.--. . A B C D E
[01:46] <_jason> grayman:  lol ok cool
[01:47] <sambagirl> not a license it'sa Ticket :_
[01:47] <sambagirl> true?
[01:47] <sambagirl> 73's :D
[01:47] <eythian> sambagirl, yeah yeah :) I was trying to be less colloquial
[01:47] <sambagirl> QST
[01:47] <yarddog> vi is for the psychologically impaired
[01:47] <eythian> sambagirl, de ZL4TRS :)
[01:47] <HrdwrBob> yarddog: we don't do editor wars here
[01:47] <sambagirl> ahh he W8JCE
[01:48] <HrdwrBob> yarddog: take your troll elsewhere
[01:48] <sambagirl> wilber 8 juliet charlie echo :D
[01:48] <yarddog> HrdwrBob, i did not start it
[01:48] <Determinist> good evening lads
[01:48] <eythian> sambagirl, hehe :)
[01:48] <sambagirl> ok i  suppose i just do a format and start over i guess....sigh
[01:48] <yarddog> HrdwrBob, take it up with who started it, leave me alone please
[01:48] <grayman> sambagirl, erm. try breezy
[01:48] <sambagirl> i ttried it
[01:48] <HrdwrBob> whoever started it, there's no need for name calling
[01:48] <grayman> sambagirl, its kind of stable right now
[01:48] <eythian> sambagirl, you shouldn't have to reinstall to fix things.
[01:49] <HrdwrBob> and _jason that's an -offtopic only question
[01:49] <green_earz> sambagirl: instead of ham radio have a look at sip voip and asterisk
[01:49] <yarddog> HrdwrBob, name calling?
[01:49] <grayman> eythian, you even saw her errors?
[01:49] <Determinist> anyone here that managed to configure gmail pop3 access under evolution? thing doesnt support ssl for pop
[01:49] <eythian> green_earz, ham radio is a lot more fun if you're technically inclined.
[01:49] <eythian> grayman, I saw the tail end of them.
[01:49] <HrdwrBob> psychologically impaired, in any case, let's not continue to have pointless arguments and further disrupt/distract the channel
[01:49] <sambagirl> do private dialog
[01:49] <grayman> eythian, its like no sudo no anything...
[01:49] <sambagirl> hold on
[01:49] <sambagirl> well what happened?
[01:50] <eythian> grayman, no sudo or no gtksudo?
[01:50] <yarddog> HrdwrBob, not a problem, if you had not imposed, it would not have continued
[01:50] <sambagirl> Seveas said use Synaptics to do installs i did and now nothing works.
[01:50] <sambagirl> brb let me check on something.
[01:50] <eythian> sambagirl, synaptic should be safe.
[01:50] <grayman> eythian, thats what i said
[01:51] <eythian> hmm.
[01:51] <tristanmike> unless you have crummy backports that can break your system
[01:51] <tristanmike> like out of date ones, and stuff
[01:51] <eythian> tristanmike, even then, I think apt has some defenses against that, povided they're not too crummy
[01:52] <grayman> unless she accidently slected few packages for removal
[01:52] <tristanmike> eythian, ;)
[01:52] <guidan> can some one show me where i can find nautilus-cd-burner
[01:52] <guidan> plz
[01:52] <sambagirl> it wont let me open a .bin file now...uh oh.
[01:52] <sambagirl> brb
[01:52] <eythian> guidan, put a bland CD-R in.
[01:52] <sambagirl> something wrong
[01:52] <eythian> err, blank
[01:52] <guidan> and it should pop up?
[01:52] <sambagirl> BTW did anyone read artical comparing UBUNTU to Windows Vista?
[01:52] <sambagirl> in Info World.
[01:52] <mauriciogp> buenas a todos
[01:53] <mauriciogp> soy nuevo
[01:53] <criticalmass120> i cant install anything it says i got to be root
[01:53] <eythian> guidan, yep
[01:53] <criticalmass120> and my root pass is wrong
[01:53] <grayman> sambagirl, no, but i was translating windows vista article on MS from ms language to normal and i didnt like what i saw
[01:53] <sankosi> has anyone put ubuntu on an xbox?
[01:53] <guidan> oh no now my dvd rom dont open
[01:54] <guidan> got something to do with mounting.
[01:54] <bimberi> criticalmass120: use sudo to get root privileges
[01:54] <eythian> grayman, is there a dpkg command to check to see if a package is corrupted, and reinstall it?
[01:54] <sambagirl> Details: Failed to execute child process "gksudo" (No such file or directory)
[01:54] <criticalmass120> o
[01:54] <sambagirl> nothing works
[01:54] <bimberi> ubotu tell criticalmass120 about root
[01:54] <eythian> guidan, if you have a CD in there, right click on the icon and 'eject' (or 'unmount' I forget which)
[01:55] <grayman> eythian, dpkg -s
[01:55] <`123> where does samba mount drives by default?
[01:55] <guidan> unable to eject media
[01:55] <eythian> guidan, does it say why? Usually thats because it's busy.
[01:55] <guidan> it just say its busy
[01:56] <guidan> but i'm not using it
[01:56] <criticalmass120> how do i install deb packages
[01:56] <apokryphos> criticalmass120: man dpkg
[01:56] <criticalmass120> i am new to this
[01:56] <grayman> criticalmass120, local?
[01:56] <criticalmass120> i just installed it
[01:56] <criticalmass120> no i am a newbie to linux
[01:56] <eythian> guidan, do you have a window open showing it, or a program that is using something on it, or a terminal window that is in the cdrom directory?
[01:57] <criticalmass120> local what
[01:57] <grayman> criticalmass120, first try not to install anything that dont come in .deb, check synaptic and man dpkg
[01:57] <guidan> the only thing i have open is xchat
[01:57] <eythian> grayman, I don't think dpkg -s acutally goes and verifies the package isn't corrupted.
[01:57] <grayman> eythian, thats the only status that it gives
[01:57] <terasurfer> does anybody have a suggestion for what to do when gam_server prevents me from unmounting drives?
[01:58] <criticalmass120> o i was trying to install a .rpm
[01:58] <criticalmass120> it said it had to be a .deb
[01:58] <eythian> guidan, open a teminal and type 'eject'
[01:58] <green_earz> criticalmass120: the link should be of interest to you " Learn Linux - On Line " > http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/moodle/
[01:58] <criticalmass120> cool thanks
[01:58] <guidan> eythian can i past the result in here 3 line
[01:59] <green_earz> np
[01:59] <criticalmass120> but ubutno can install rpms right
[01:59] <eythian> guidan, paste it as one line, use '\' to seperate or something
[01:59] <criticalmass120> rpm -ivh filename.rpm right
[01:59] <guidan> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[01:59] <guidan> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[01:59] <guidan> eject: unmount of `/dev/hdc' failed
[01:59] <grayman> criticalmass120, i'd suggest not to install rpms
[01:59] <bimberi> criticalmass120: it can, but not that way, but what are you trying to install?
[02:00] <eythian> guidan, OK, something is using it. Do: lsof -n | grep cdrom
[02:00] <criticalmass120> just anything
[02:00] <criticalmass120> lol
[02:00] <Kris_k> Trying to play a dvd movie but hte playback is all glitchy and slow, it says DMA is enabled and i have the FGLRX driver installed, x800 vidcard 64 bit cpu, Steaming Video plays fine, is there a way to fix this without doing another player
[02:00] <grayman> criticalmass120, you can use alien to try and remake them to deb
[02:00] <criticalmass120> i got some icons
[02:00] <Dark-Druid> goodnight im off to bed
[02:00] <criticalmass120> i am trying to figure out howto install
[02:00] <bimberi> criticalmass120: you need to get to know synaptic then
[02:00] <green_earz> guidan: have you got any window open to the drive, if so close them.
[02:00] <bimberi> ubotu tell criticalmass120 about synaptic
[02:00] <guidan> no
[02:00] <criticalmass120> thanks
[02:00] <guidan> and it give me the same result
[02:00] <bimberi> criticalmass120: yw :)
[02:01] <guidan> after i type in lsof -n | grep cdrom
[02:01] <eythian> guidan, what do you mean 'the same result'? This should show up any programs accessing the cdrom.
[02:01] <guidan> gam_serve  6739     guidan   62r      DIR       22,0    2048     20480 /media/cdrom0
[02:02] <Alpha232> ok... i have been trying the live CD for a while now and finally got networking to work... i then install it, make the changes i need, and networking doesn't work. ARGH
[02:02] <Alpha232> does HH have issues with DHCP?
[02:02] <eythian> guidan, oh. It's gam_server. Hrm, hang on.
[02:02] <amias> evning all
[02:03] <guidan>  oxez  you from toronto?
[02:03] <oxez> guidan: nope, I live in Quebec
[02:03] <guidan> oh i see
[02:03] <oxez> cogeco cable :O
[02:03] <guidan> yes
[02:03] <guidan> haha
[02:03] <oxez> They suck as an ISP
[02:03] <SuseUX> ok, i'm impressed with Ubuntu 5.10
[02:03] <guidan> what can we do/
[02:03] <kbrooks> oxez: i use cogeco
[02:03] <kbrooks> they dont suck
[02:03] <lllmanulll> SuseUX, you should be :)
[02:03] <guidan> kbrooks where u from?
[02:04] <amias> i still cant get the mga_vid module to compile from the ubuntu sources , anyone got this working
[02:04] <kbrooks> peterborough
[02:04] <kbrooks> ontario
[02:04] <guidan> really
[02:04] <guidan> i have family there
[02:04] <sarkie> gi
[02:04] <oxez> kbrooks: pings in games are bad, every one I know who has cgo says that too
[02:04] <sarkie> hi
[02:04] <kbrooks> cool
[02:04] <oxez> anyway
[02:04] <Kris_k> Trying to play a dvd movie but hte playback is all glitchy and slow, it says DMA is enabled and i have the FGLRX driver installed, x800 vidcard 64 bit cpu, Steaming Video plays fine, is there a way to fix this without doing another player
[02:04] <SuseUX> lllmanulll, the install was very easy, one of the easiest installers out there
[02:04] <eythian> guidan, hrm, gam_server seems to be a very poorly documented program. You can probably get away with just killing it.
[02:04] <guidan> ok
[02:04] <lllmanulll> SuseUX, Yes, it is one of Ubuntu's main concerns, and I really think it's the right approach
[02:05] <lllmanulll> Moving towards average users
[02:05] <sarkie> Im trying to install mysql, do I need the client and server?
[02:05] <guidan> eythian: thanks it work now
[02:05] <sarkie> and do i install the 4.1s or the ones with the ubuntu icon next to it?
[02:05] <oxez> SuseUX: right
[02:05] <SuseUX> lllmanulll, cannot fault it, asks the questions that should be asked
[02:05] <guidan> but i still want to know where i can fidn the cd burner with out blank cd
[02:06] <kbrooks> sarkie: want me to check?
[02:06] <terasurfer> does anybody know how i can disable or avert gam_server long enough to umount a drive?
[02:06] <sarkie> kbrooks how?
[02:06] <kbrooks> checking as we speak
[02:06] <lllmanulll> sarkie, I guess you should install the ones with Ubuntu logos in priority, that's generally a good idea
[02:06] <Alpha232> i guess no one wants to help with a dhcp issue then... so be it... it just sucks that both windows machines boot up just fine but when i run the live CD's, dhcp doesn't work under ubuntu
[02:06] <sarkie> Alpha232, what is wrong
[02:07] <SuseUX> Cominng from Slackware, it was smooth transition
[02:07] <eythian> guidan, open a file broswer window (like home), go to 'places' in that, and it should be there
[02:07] <kbrooks> mmm strange
[02:07] <kbrooks> brb
[02:07] <LazyAngel> anyone knows the command to make fat32 partition un linux?
[02:07] <sarkie> but ubuntu is now my main os
[02:07] <green_earz> Alpha232: you could use etherconf to setup your network card and DHCP  its a commad line app. and are you behind a dhcp router ?
[02:07] <guidan> eythian:what folder u think its in?
[02:07] <criticalmass120> can u use kde for ubuntu
[02:08] <grayman> kubuntu
[02:08] <criticalmass120> o nm
[02:08] <criticalmass120> lol
[02:08] <criticalmass120> what about fluxbox
[02:08] <apokryphos> yes, you can
[02:08] <apokryphos> both
[02:08] <SuseUX> The installer is just great, no need to click and setup with GUI interface
[02:08] <Alpha232> green_earz:  is that installed on the live cd?
[02:08] <eythian> guidan, I don't know. I don't think it's a real folder. (the mac has a real folder, and it's a _stupid_ idea)
[02:08] <grayman> you can install them yes
[02:08] <apokryphos> installer is dang ugly, and pretty lacking, but it's not too difficult
[02:08] <grayman> and use
[02:08] <sarkie> can i use kde apps in gnome and vica versa?
[02:08] <apokryphos> yes
[02:08] <sarkie> thought so
[02:09] <grayman> you only need the libs
[02:09] <Alpha232> green_earz: like right now, i tried to do it manually by editing the interfaces file and adding iface eth0 inet dhcp
[02:09] <Nile> help!
[02:09] <SuseUX> anyone know what the nvidia panel is called in Synaptic?
[02:09] <whatsupwiththis> anyone else having problems with the live cd on mac?
[02:09] <lllmanulll> LazyAngel, That would be mkfs, but you need to find the right option for the file system
[02:09] <lllmanulll> LazyAngel, fat I believe ?
[02:09] <Alpha232> green_earz: that worked all of once and never again
[02:09] <eythian> whatsupwiththis, the one time I tried it it was real slow
[02:09] <guidan> eythian: i see 3 folder 1.nautilus 2.nautils-cd-burner 3.nautilus-sendto
[02:09] <mark__> hey guys - How do I delete a folder if its owner is root? I have the root password
[02:09] <lllmanulll> Nile, What's going on ?
[02:09] <sarkie> fair enough, only problem i had with synaptics is it not redownloading a file, had to manual remove it wish there was an otopin
[02:09] <whatsupwiththis> after it's setup, the screen is just blank
[02:09] <sarkie> mark__ sudo -s
[02:09] <Xenguy> mark__: rm folder
[02:10] <ColonelKernel> yeesh - I put some new cflags in and recompiled my kernel and my system is screaming fast
[02:10] <lllmanulll> mark__, You might want to do this with the command line
[02:10] <Nile> (lllmanulll): need help on installing ubantu
[02:10] <Xenguy> mark__: er rmdir folder
[02:10] <green_earz> Alpha232: sorry i know if its on the live cd. but you said that you have installed ubuntu on to the drive ?
[02:10] <Alpha232> green_earz: when i run dhclient manually, i see the DHCPDISCOVER, OFFER and REQUEST, but never get the ACK
[02:10] <ColonelKernel> thanks for your help yesterday
[02:10] <grayman> mark__, sudo rmdir folder
[02:10] <lllmanulll> Nile, decribe your problem :)
[02:10] <Xenguy> mark__: else -> rm -rf folder (careful!)
[02:10] <LazyAngel> is vfat the same as fat32?
[02:10] <eythian> wah? where do you see that? In mine, if I go to places from a nautilis window, there is CD/DVD creator, and it opens up empty.
[02:10] <green_earz> Alpha232: sorry i do not know if its on the live cd.
[02:10] <Nile> (lllmanulll): ermm, do i need to install it on a different hdd or something ?
[02:10] <Xenguy> mark__: s/folder/directory (this is *nix :-)
[02:10] <Alpha232> green_earz: lol well grub fscked up my Win2k install so i am trying to recover that first since my install cd's are in storage
[02:10] <kbrooks> eythian: drag
[02:10] <guidan> eythian: i see it in /usr/share/
[02:11] <lllmanulll> Nile, You can either install on a different hdd, or have several partitions on a same hdd
[02:11] <whatsupwiththis> anyone know why the live cd, after startup and all, the screen is just blank, but i hear responses from clicking
[02:11] <sarkie> Alpha232, in what sence it "fsked" up your win2k??
[02:11] <lllmanulll> Nile, Do you have WIndows already installed ?
[02:11] <guidan> what do u mean by places
[02:11] <eythian> kbrooks, I know :) I was explaining :)
[02:11] <eythian> guidan, huh?
[02:11] <kbrooks> eythian: dnd rules
[02:11] <Nile> (lllmanulll): if i have like four, C: D: E: and F:, so i can install it anyone of those ?
[02:11] <kbrooks> drag and drop
[02:12] <Nile> (lllmanulll): yep win xp is there
[02:12] <bimberi> LazyAngel: I think you need to specify it with something like "mkfs.vfat -F32 ...."
[02:12] <lllmanulll> Yes, that would be good
[02:12] <guidan> u told me to go to "place"
[02:12] <mark__> Xenguy when I do sudo -s
[02:12] <guidan> what u mean by that
[02:12] <Xenguy> guidan: s/u/you/
[02:12] <sarkie>  Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[02:12] <sarkie> <--odd i wonder if i need to restart for the service
[02:12] <mark__> Xenguy and then rmdir it says the dir is not empty
[02:12] <lllmanulll> Nile, First, save everything that is on F, for example, and prepare for everything on it to be deleted
[02:12] <whatsupwiththis> so how do i install it on a partition of an external?
[02:12] <kbrooks> guidan: menu on top
[02:12] <Alpha232> sarkie: well the grub loader won't even load right now after win2k started
[02:12] <lllmanulll> Then you can install ubuntu on this free space
[02:12] <guidan> ohh i c
[02:12] <kbrooks> sarkie: linux isnt windows
[02:12] <guidan> but i dont see it
[02:12] <eythian> guidan, open up, say, the home window. On that window there is a menu called 'places', in that menu there is an option called 'CD/DVD Creator'.
[02:13] <Xenguy> mark__: you need a 'force' and a 'recursive' then (careful!) -> rm -rf dir
[02:13] <Nile> (lllmanulll): so like i have to have one whole drive empty for installation ? and it wont mess with the data on other drives ?
[02:13] <eythian> guidan, it's not on the places menu at the top for some reason
[02:13] <guidan> theres no option in there
[02:13] <sarkie> kbrooks, yes but it still needs the services
[02:13] <Xenguy> mark__: you blow it away, it doesn't come back :-)
[02:13] <nicedreams> Can someone help me setup my SATA RAID using the software RAID durring the Ubuntu Hoary installation?
[02:13] <lllmanulll> Nile, Hmm, what do you mean by "drive"
[02:13] <oxez> sarkie: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart?
[02:13] <kbrooks> Nile: unless you tell iyt to that is
[02:13] <green_earz> Alpha232: you are better installing linux on to a box with out any OS on it untill you get more working skills with linux installing
[02:13] <Kris_k> Trying to play a dvd movie but hte playback is all glitchy and slow, it says DMA is enabled and i have the FGLRX driver installed, x800 vidcard 64 bit cpu, Steaming Video plays fine, it also messes up in XINE
[02:13] <guidan> i see desktop, home folder,computer etc..
[02:13] <mark__> Xenguy that worked perfectly thank you
[02:13] <eythian> guidan, hmm. Maybe it only appears if you've put a blank CD in before or something
[02:13] <Nile> (lllmanulll): err i meant a partition F: for eg.
[02:13] <Xenguy> mark__: yw
[02:13] <lllmanulll> Nile, I guess usually a drive is a whole hard disk : another drive is just another piece of hardware
[02:14] <sarkie> Alpha232, you cant load grub after installing win2k again, explain a bit more since you can repair your mbr from the 2k cd just need more info
[02:14] <lllmanulll> Nile, Yes, right
[02:14] <eythian> guidan, I think you've got the wrong meny
[02:14] <lllmanulll> Nile, Well, you just need some free space
[02:14] <kbrooks> nile: no drive letters in linux btw
[02:14] <Nile> (lllmanulll): kool, thanks a lot man
[02:14] <nicedreams> Kris_k: Try using VLC Player.  I started using that and it got rid of most of my video/dvd problems
[02:14] <guidan> ?
[02:14] <eythian> guidan, not the one at the top of the screen, one at the top of the Nautilus window
[02:14] <Kris_k> Nicedreams EVERY player does the same thing i tried vlc
[02:14] <Alpha232> umm green_earz, i am very familiar with installing linux, i've done it for quite a few years, this is the first with unbutu and a deb dist...
[02:14] <lllmanulll> Nile, And if your hdd is already partitionned into C, D, E, F, using F is good
[02:14] <mark__> Xenguy, Hey how do I install skype?
[02:14] <lllmanulll> Nile, No problem
[02:14] <guidan> i dont even see Nautilus window
[02:14] <kbrooks> lllmanulll: first off
[02:15] <LazyAngel> bimberi: thanks
[02:15] <Xenguy> mark__: I don't use non-free software (someone else might know)
[02:15] <lllmanulll> mark__, check out http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[02:15] <mylastmorning> anyone use wine?
[02:15] <bimberi> LazyAngel: yw :)
[02:15] <Xenguy> mylastmorning: #winehq
[02:15] <kbrooks> lllmanulll: when you boot with the ubuntu cd, you are in a temporary linux environment
[02:15] <mark__> Xenguy, I found it but Skype is free
[02:15] <Alpha232> green_earz: more that i should use a box without an os, not knowing what the install of HH would do...
[02:15] <Xenguy> mark__: not free as in freedom, no
[02:15] <lllmanulll> kbrooks, Is that a question ? :)
[02:15] <guidan> ohhh i see it
[02:15] <kbrooks> lllmanulll: hint: make him clear on mounting and stuff
[02:15] <eythian> guidan, :)
[02:15] <grayman> mylastmorning, what about wine?
[02:15] <Alpha232> green_earz: off to download a 2k boot disk, and then off to work for 8 hours of hell
[02:16] <kbrooks> lllmanulll: no not a question
[02:16] <guidan> eythian: thanks alot
[02:16] <eythian> guidan, np
[02:16] <mark__> Xenguy, eager to understand. Could you explain more
[02:16] <Xenguy> mark__: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html
[02:16] <mylastmorning> grayman, when I try to install flash mx 2004 it gives me a ikernal.exe error.
[02:16] <green_earz> Alpha232: yes learn on a spare box first. and all the best
[02:16] <Xenguy> mark__: good place to start :-)
[02:16] <guidan> eythian: just to let u know its under "GO"
[02:16] <guidan> hehe
[02:16] <kbrooks> green_earz: gone ;)
[02:16] <DualBoot4Life> Can somebody help me?
[02:16] <green_earz> ok
[02:17] <lllmanulll> DualBoot4Life, Sure :)
[02:17] <lllmanulll> DualBoot4Life, Just ask your question
[02:17] <grayman> mylastmorning, as i said earlier. wine is not stable and many apps wont work on it
[02:17] <kbrooks> DualBoot4Life: just ask
[02:17] <remyforbes777> how do you uninstall xorg and install xfree86
[02:17] <lllmanulll> remyforbes777, If you have Breezy, I wouldn't recommend that
[02:17] <mark__> Xenguy, I see now, free = open source right? Is Gizmo Project "free" then?
[02:17] <Xenguy> remyforbes777: you probably don't want to if you can help it
[02:17] <grayman> mylastmorning, or will work not in a way you expected
[02:17] <kbrooks> remyforbes777: do not do it in breezy
[02:17] <remyforbes777> i have ubuntu  64
[02:17] <eythian> guidan, oh. It's 'places' on mine
[02:17] <DualBoot4Life> I have my Pentium II system configured with 2 hard drives to boot either Windows 2000 or Ubuntu...
[02:17] <lllmanulll> mark__, Open source is not necessarily free as in "free beer"
[02:18] <kbrooks> mark__: Free Software != Open Source
[02:18] <remyforbes777> this is why i want to do it
[02:18] <DualBoot4Life> Is there a way I can mount m,y Windows drive in Ubuntu?
[02:18] <grayman> mylastmorning, and what flash you try to install?
[02:18] <kbrooks> lllmanulll: openn source is free as in speech
[02:18] <lllmanulll> kbrooks, right :)
[02:18] <grayman> mylastmorning, its for viewing or making flash?
[02:18] <remyforbes777> i have an amd laptop with an ATI video card, Knoppix uses Xfree86 vesa and it works fine
[02:18] <mylastmorning> making flash grayman
[02:19] <Xenguy> mark__: depends on who you talk to - I generally say 'yes' e.g. FOSS = Free and Open Source Software.  RMS (Richard Stallman) of FSF (Free Software Foundation) would chew me up and spit me out for using that phrase ;-)  To each their own
[02:19] <remyforbes777> ubuntu uses xorg and it freezes at login all the time
[02:19] <mark__> kbrooks, I will read further because I would like to understand. Meanwhile, I just ran killall gnome-panel, and the gnome anel did now start back up, solution?
[02:19] <kbrooks> mark__: huh.
[02:19] <Xenguy> mark__: I don't know about Gizmo
[02:19] <Confuzzled> Hey all
[02:19] <sarkie> darn mysql dont work
[02:19] <mark__> Xenguy, would you read what I asked kbrooks and help me out
[02:19] <Xenguy> mark__: try pkill instead
[02:19] <guidan> eythian: sorry to bother again but when i put a dvd video in i can't access the rom it says"Unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted"
[02:20] <mark__> Xenguy, I need to start it back up not kill it again
[02:20] <Xenguy> mark__: ahh
[02:20] <eythian> guidan, umm. I don't know. I've never tried to play a DVD video on this.
[02:20] <mark__> Xenguy, go tit
[02:20] <eythian> guidan, I'll have a go
[02:20] <Confuzzled> anyone know how to get ubuntu to use the laptop mouse?
[02:20] <guidan> ok thank
[02:20] <mark__> Xenguy, I just had to type gnome-panel ... such a newb
[02:20] <guidan> take care
[02:20] <guidan> can any one else help me?
[02:20] <Xenguy> mark__: heh
[02:20] <mylastmorning> grayman, are you their?
[02:20] <kbrooks> whats with sigint and sigterm? interrupt and terminate are conceputally the same, no?
[02:21] <lllmanulll> guidan, Sure, about what ?
[02:21] <grayman> mylastmorning, well. looks like macromedia has some issues with making their software for linux
[02:21] <grayman> mylastmorning, what you mean?
[02:21] <eythian> kbrooks, sigterm is untrappable
[02:21] <guidan> lllmanulll: opening dvd
[02:21] <mark__> Xenguy, I take that back. When I close the console I launched gnome-panel from gnome-panel closes... work around please?
[02:21] <mylastmorning> you weren't replying grayman, I thought you might of went afk
[02:21] <grayman> no
[02:21] <grayman> i was investigating
[02:21] <Xenguy> mark__: append this -> &
[02:21] <lllmanulll> guidan, Have you tried to read it directly (with totem for instance) without mounting it ?
[02:22] <mylastmorning> grayman, do you have any solutions to solve my problem?
[02:22] <Xenguy> mark__: that backgrounds the job -- should work
[02:22] <guidan> lllmanulll: i try click open the drive itself
[02:22] <lllmanulll> mark__, gnome-panel &
[02:22] <mark__> nope
[02:22] <grayman> mylastmorning, one is dual boot. second is to find someone who had success installing flash on wine and third is try to find a linux equivalent
[02:22] <lllmanulll> guidan, Do you have the same problem with every DVD you try ?
[02:23] <nicedreams> Can someone help me setup a SATA linux software RAID with a fresh install of Hoary?
[02:23] <ubuntumark> hello room im wondering if anyone has good suggestions on books good for a newbie to linux? (besides the dummie and idiots book series)?
[02:23] <guidan> it give me this
[02:23] <guidan> Unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted.:
[02:23] <guidan> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
[02:23] <guidan>        missing codepage or other error
[02:23] <guidan>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:23] <guidan>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:23] <lllmanulll> guidan, I mean, video dvds
[02:23] <guidan> yes
[02:23] <mark__> Xenguy, lllmaul, nope didnt't work
[02:23] <kbrooks> guidan: so try it
[02:23] <kbrooks> dmesg | tail
[02:23] <Xenguy> mark__: use the '&', and just leave the terminal open then
[02:23] <guidan> kbrooks try what?
[02:23] <mark__> lol
[02:23] <Seveas> guidan, please don't paste in here
[02:23] <grayman> mylastmorning, im trying to find something to help you tho
[02:23] <eythian> what repository is libdvdcss2 in?
[02:23] <Seveas> there are pastebins for that
[02:23] <kbrooks> guidan: i gave the command
[02:23] <guidan> seveas sorry
[02:23] <lllmanulll> mark__, Do you already have a panel running ?
[02:24] <Pickle_Weasel> there is no "terminal" option on breezy when you right click on the desktop, there is a package to enable this, but i forgot its name, does anyone know?
[02:24] <Seveas> eythian, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[02:24] <Paradoxx> Seveas: are you one person?
[02:24] <lllmanulll> mark__, to remove the running panel : gnome-session-remove gnome panel
[02:24] <kbrooks> Paradoxx: yes he is
[02:24] <lllmanulll> mark__, But it is relaunched automatically
[02:24] <mark__> Xenguy, I knwo you don'y know skype but do you know why after I installed it and it is in the menu it still will not run when I click it.  lllmanulll, no panel is not running
[02:24] <guidan> kbrooks: can u give it again
[02:24] <nicedreams> Can someone help me setup a SATA linux software RAID with a fresh install of Hoary?
[02:24] <guidan> i didn't get it
[02:24] <Paradoxx> Seveas: lol, that seems like a weird question its just that, everytime i come to this channel he is here....
[02:25] <kbrooks> guidan: i already gave it, just after i said 'so try it'
[02:25] <Seveas> Paradoxx, no, I'm a bot :)
[02:25] <Xenguy> mark__: sorry, I won't support non-free software (to each their own ;-)
[02:25] <Pickle_Weasel> does anyone know the package name to enable the "terminal" option in a right click window?
[02:25] <Paradoxx> rather you are here...
[02:25] <eythian> Seveas, will that work in hoary?
[02:26] <Kris_k> Trying to play a dvd movie but hte playback is all glitchy and slow, it says DMA is enabled and i have the FGLRX driver installed, x800 vidcard 64 bit cpu, Steaming Video plays fine, it also messes up in XINE Tried VLC tried Mplayer
[02:26] <Seveas> eythian, no
[02:26] <nicedreams> Kris_k: try another window manager or gui.  I
[02:26] <Seveas> maybe hoary-extras has one for hoary...
[02:26] <mark__> Will anyone help me with an error I get after installing skype?
[02:26] <eythian> Seveas, OK. Where can I get libdvdcss2 for hoary?
[02:26] <nicedreams> Kris_k: I've had weird problems in Gnome from Hoary and when I use Fluxbox...everything always works
[02:27] <kbrooks> Seveas: are meta packages trivial to make? ;)
[02:27] <Seveas> maybe hoary-extras has one for hoary... <-- eythian
[02:27] <anethema> hey Kris_k, back again eh
[02:27] <anethema> hehe
[02:27] <nicedreams> Kris_k: Like I can't play quake if I'm in gnome, but it launches fine in Fluxbox
[02:27] <Seveas> kbrooks, extremely
[02:27] <Kris_k> im always here
[02:27] <bimberi> Pickle_Weasel: i think it's nautilus-open-terminal
[02:27] <anethema> i stil think your problem is DMA related if you can play dvd stuff from the hard drive, but not from a dvd-rom drive
[02:27] <Pickle_Weasel> thank you =)
[02:27] <bimberi> Pickle_Weasel: yw :)
[02:28] <anethema> i would look at your actual dvd device
[02:28] <nicedreams> Can someone help me setup a SATA linux software RAID with a fresh install of Hoary?
[02:28] <anethema> /dev/hdc or hdd
[02:28] <Kris_k> my dvd is still being crappy everybody instaid of trying to fix my prob is sending me to get diffrent progys or diffrent Guis so now my hd is filled with unesscary packages lol
[02:28] <eythian> Seveas, nope, it's 404
[02:28] <TedLemon> Is there an automated build system for Ubuntu, or is it more that everybody has a special package they know how to build, and it's build in pieces, collectively?
[02:28] <mark__> How do I install a .deb package?
[02:28] <TheWahbinator> dpkg -i packagename.deb
[02:28] <thrice`> mark__, man dpkg
[02:28] <anethema> dpkg -i <file>
[02:29] <bimberi> Kris_k: i think there's a package you can install to get rid of unnecessary packages :P
[02:29] <Kris_k> lol
[02:29] <nicedreams> Can someone PLEASE try to help me with this RAID
[02:29] <remyforbes777> anyone help me with my x problem
[02:29] <TedLemon> what's your x problem?
[02:29] <mark__> thrice, anethema says dpkg -i which one should I do?
[02:29] <CosmoDad> is there a documentation for people that want to switch from debian to ubuntu? something like "what changes for debian users"?
[02:29] <remyforbes777> >here it goes
[02:29] <anethema> everyone said dpkg -i
[02:29] <anethema> heheh
[02:29] <thrice`> mark__, dpkg -i file.deb
[02:29] <Seveas> eythian, what is 404?
[02:30] <eythian> Seveas, 404 file not found
[02:30] <Pickle_Weasel> for some reason when i go into repositories from synaptic, i don't have a check box next to them, how can i fix this?
[02:30] <bob2> nicedreams: you're using linux software raid, right?
[02:30] <Seveas> which file...
[02:30] <SuseUX> OMG
[02:30] <remyforbes777> i have an amd 64 laptop with an ATI video card, when boot knoppix , x works fine,
[02:30] <eythian> Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/ubuntu-seveas/hoary-extras/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[02:30] <bob2> CosmoDad: "the gnome menus use sudo, and ubuntu is not generally compatible with Debian .debs"
[02:30] <nicedreams> bob2, yes   I am in the install where you partition the disks right now
[02:30] <TedLemon> nice
[02:30] <SuseUX> beagle just works :-)
[02:30] <bob2> CosmoDad: that's about it
[02:30] <remyforbes777> when i try to boot to ubuntu 64 on my hard drive , right at the ubuntu splash screen it locks
[02:30] <mark__> How do I list the files in a directory:?
[02:30] <TedLemon> which version?
[02:30] <Seveas> eythian, I never said it was on my server...
[02:31] <Seveas> !hoary-extras
[02:31] <ubotu> I heard hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[02:31] <TedLemon> breezy or hoary, I mean
[02:31] <remyforbes777> now looking in my log files, there seems to be a problem with x
[02:31] <bimberi> Pickle_Weasel: click on "Settings" in the repositories window and check "Show disabled software sources"
[02:31] <nicedreams> bob2, there is the option to configure software raid, but i'm more confused trying it that way
[02:31] <remyforbes777> hoary
[02:31] <bob2> nicedreams: perhaps it's not worth bothering with
[02:31] <TedLemon> hm, ok.   I had trouble making hoary work on my Sony too.
[02:31] <eythian> Seveas, ah :)
[02:31] <TedLemon> Have you tried burning a breezy colony 5 cd?
[02:31] <nicedreams> bob2, i need for a server i'm doing though
[02:31] <bob2> nicedreams: or you should explain which bit in particualr is confusing you
[02:31] <Pickle_Weasel> thanks again bimberi, i forgot all about that, i feel silly
[02:31] <remyforbes777> no
[02:31] <nicedreams> bob2, i've been making a lot of servers and I really need RAID for these people
[02:31] <sambagirl> ubuntu is all messed up
[02:32] <remyforbes777> they have that in 64 bit
[02:32] <CosmoDad> bob2: wow that's not much. If ubuntu is not compatible to .debs, how can you use debian's software basis?
[02:32] <kbrooks> sambagirl: oh? how?
[02:32] <TedLemon> I'd suggest you try that - it might work better.   I think they do, yes.
[02:32] <bimberi> Pickle_Weasel: yw, and don't :)
[02:32] <loku> hello peeps...
[02:32] <sambagirl> noting works now
[02:32] <bob2> CosmoDad: you don't
[02:32] <bob2> CosmoDad: you use ubuntu's
[02:32] <bob2> win: 46
[02:32] <TedLemon> I'm running breezy very happily on my Vaio now.   :')
[02:32] <remyforbes777> and whats it called again
[02:32] <nicedreams> bob2, Do I setup the raid then install ubuntu or do I install ubuntu on the first drive then copy it to the second drive and then try to raid it afterwards?
[02:32] <CosmoDad> bob2: I read that every ubuntu release is based in sid...
[02:32] <TedLemon> If only kmail wouldn't crash.
[02:32] <sambagirl> i installed all these things suing sanitptic and now nothing allows me to even logon root or anything.
[02:32] <sambagirl> whole desktop just not work.
[02:32] <loku> pls. help...how do i change the resolution of the login page
[02:32] <mylastmorning> grayman, where is the config of wine?
[02:32] <sambagirl> nothing works.
[02:32] <bob2> CosmoDad: indeed
[02:32] <sambagirl> Details: Failed to execute child process "gksudo" (No such file or directory)
[02:33] <TedLemon> but don't panic - that's the only thing I've had trouble with, which is pretty good all things considered.
[02:33] <sambagirl> these kinds of errors
[02:33] <remyforbes777> whats that called again Ted
[02:33] <grayman> mylastmorning, look in pm
[02:33] <predius_> can anyone recommend a good terminal font which works with utf8?
[02:33] <bob2> CosmoDad: ubuntu rebuilds almost every package from Debian and puts it on archive.ubuntu.com
[02:33] <eythian> sambagirl, open up a terminal and type 'which gksudo'
[02:33] <CosmoDad> bob2: so how's that done? are the .debs automatically transformed to ubuntu's format? and what's ubuntu's packaging format called, actually?
[02:33] <sambagirl> i must reinstall
[02:33] <HrdwrBob> predius_: the default
[02:33] <CosmoDad> bob2: ok
[02:33] <mylastmorning> what grayman, I don't understand.
[02:33] <TedLemon> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-5/
[02:33] <funkyHat> sambagirl, apt-get install gksudo :P
[02:33] <kbrooks> CosmoDad: the incompatibilites are namely in the depends
[02:33] <predius_> HrdwrBob: it's awful
[02:33] <sambagirl> i cannot open a terminal file not found errors and things.
[02:34] <grayman> mylastmorning, private message
[02:34] <dooglus> sambagirl: use a virtual console then
[02:34] <sambagirl> Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/gksu.desktop': File not found
[02:34] <bob2> CosmoDad: the format is identical
[02:34] <funkyHat> sambagirl, recovery mode (the boot option)?
[02:34] <kbrooks> CosmoDad: a debian package requests a earlier version of foo, a ubuntu package requests a latest version
[02:34] <bob2> CosmoDad: it's similar to how .debs from sid generally don't work on sarge (ie the dependences won't be satisfiable)
[02:34] <kbrooks> (example)
[02:34] <sambagirl> ???
[02:34] <TedLemon> bob, is there an overall build system, or do you just build individual packages?
[02:34] <eythian> OK, how do you make totem play DVDs?
[02:34] <remyforbes777> thanks Ted
[02:34] <sambagirl> virtual logon?
[02:34] <TedLemon> sure
[02:34] <sambagirl> recovery?
[02:34] <dooglus> sambagirl: press control-alt-F1, log in, type "type gksudo" then press alt-F7 to get back to X
[02:34] <CosmoDad> bob2, kbrooks: ok. so if I can't use .debs directly, what about software availability: is it much less than a debian rep?
[02:35] <kbrooks> CosmoDad: you can  use .debs
[02:35] <CosmoDad> kbrooks: oh I can?
[02:35] <bob2> CosmoDad: about the same
[02:35] <dooglus> you can use ubuntu .deb files, and some debian .deb files.
[02:35] <kbrooks> you just cant use *debian packages built for debian*
[02:35] <HrdwrBob> CosmoDad: the 'universe' repository has most software in it
[02:35] <bob2> TedLemon: hm? ubuntu uses an automated build system to build them all.
[02:35] <nicedreams> bob2, Do I setup the raid then install ubuntu or do I install ubuntu on the first drive then copy it to the second drive and then try to raid it afterwards?
[02:36] <CosmoDad> dooglus: what's the difference between a debian .deb file and a "debian package built for debian" ?
[02:36] <dooglus> you see, ubuntu uses the same extension as debian, but has broken binary compatibility!
[02:36] <HrdwrBob> nicedreams: setup raid in the installer
[02:36] <TedLemon> the reason I ask is that there are some bugs in kmail, and I'd like to fix them, but I totally don't grok how packages are built.
[02:36] <HrdwrBob> dooglus: no, that's incorrect
[02:36] <loku> anyone: how do i change login resolution for low resolution monitor
[02:36] <HrdwrBob> dooglus: 'binary incompatibility' is a misnomer
[02:36] <kbrooks> CosmoDad: ubuntu uses apt
[02:36] <dooglus> CosmoDad: the format is the same, but they are built against different versions of C and C++ libraries
[02:36] <nicedreams> HrdwrBob: So I pick "configure software RAID" in the installer?  I'm in the installer at the partitioner now
[02:36] <kbrooks> apt uses .deb
[02:36] <kbrooks> some packages depend on c/c++ libraries
[02:37] <Ersai_> what would cause ubuntu to reject my attempts to connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 on one machine and be fine on the one next to it?
[02:37] <nicedreams> HrdwrBob: Do I have to setup anything before that, because it erros out
[02:37] <bob2> CosmoDad: as above, the dependencies differ
[02:37] <bob2> Ersai_: sounds like a local problem
[02:37] <kbrooks> and they differ between ubuntu and debian
[02:37] <Ersai_> it is but im unsure of why
[02:37] <TedLemon> what kind of rejection are youg etting - connection timeout or connection refused?
[02:37] <Ersai_> there is no configuration difference between the two systems, except one is running windows and one is running ubuntu
[02:38] <Ersai_> refused connection
[02:38] <TedLemon> wow
[02:38] <CosmoDad> so are you ubuntu guys packaging stuff mainly by yourself, or are you waiting for debian packagers to bundle software so you can later "port" it to ubuntu?
[02:38] <kbrooks> CosmoDad: its not a "port"
[02:38] <kbrooks> CosmoDad: both
[02:38] <CosmoDad> kbrooks: that's why I quoted it
[02:38] <bob2> CosmoDad: much like debian,. ubuntu basically has everything you want in it already
[02:39] <CosmoDad> bob2: yeah I just wanna know how you do that
[02:39] <Ersai_> ok, booted up laptop with ubuntu on it on same network and it connects fine as well.
[02:39] <dooglus> CosmoDad: I think the vast majority of packages in ubuntu are re-builds of existing debian packages
[02:39] <TedLemon> CosmoDad, the difference is just what version of the software is being built, and also in some cases local configuration tweaks to present things ubuntu-style.
[02:39] <CosmoDad> bob2: I can't imagine there're as many ubuntu developers already as in debian
[02:39] <bob2> CosmoDad: what?
[02:39] <bob2> CosmoDad: ubuntu automatically rebuilds the debian source packages on ubuntu
[02:39] <CosmoDad> bob2: ... but I could be wrong, sorry if I
[02:39] <Xenguy> CosmoDad: there is interchange back and forth -- it's all based on the source code ultimately
[02:39] <bob2> CosmoDad: so it has every package Debian has, except for the oens that don't compile anymore
[02:39] <kbrooks> CosmoDad: those ubuntu developers contribute to debian too
[02:39] <TedLemon> Cosmodad: so it's not so much that there is any porting going on, as that the builds are for more current revs of the libraries, etc.
[02:39] <bob2> hm, not so much
[02:40] <kbrooks> without the source code, how could a package be built for a system?
[02:40] <kbrooks> a specific system
[02:40] <CosmoDad> kbrooks: true
[02:40] <kbrooks> with specific compile settings
[02:40] <TedLemon> Nono, a specific ubuntu build, not a specific computer.
[02:40] <bob2> CosmoDad: plus ubuntu has "multiverse", a section of the archive full of stuff Debian (mostly) doesn't have
[02:41] <kbrooks> bob2: whats the point of 'uni' and 'multi'?
[02:41] <CosmoDad> bob2: so that multiverse contains packages ubuntu people built that debian maintainers haven't ye?
[02:41] <CosmoDad> t
[02:41] <seife> Hi
[02:42] <seife> How do i switch from my speakers to my Headphones?
[02:42] <kbrooks> universal .. hmm, yup. what about for multiverse? what is the point of it?
[02:42] <bimberi> kbrooks: multiverse is nonfree aiui
[02:42] <Kris_k> how do you set dma again to yes ?
[02:42] <kbrooks> bimberi: or may be free
[02:42] <seife> How do i switch from my speakers to my Headphones?
[02:42] <kbrooks> *may*
[02:42] <GnuKemist> seife, I think you do that by pluging each device to the proper port in the back of your pc
[02:42] <lllmanulll> seife, Have you tried Sound & Video --> Volume control ?
[02:42] <kbrooks> Kris_k: hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[02:43] <bob2> CosmoDad: no, they're generally things debian people did, but didn't put in Debian (e.g. christian marillat's stuff)
[02:43] <seife> Both are plugged..
[02:43] <Ersai_> fixed it
[02:43] <GnuKemist> seife, have u unmutted them?
[02:43] <bob2> kbrooks: uni = unsupported free software, multi = unsupported non-free software
[02:43] <CosmoDad> bob2: oh ok, that's very convenient
[02:44] <kbrooks> bob2: then why 'multiverse' (the name)?
[02:44] <green_earz> CosmoDad: check out the link for dvd of deconf where mark shuttleworth gave a talk about debian and ubuntu > http://www.debian.org/events/2005/0710-debconf   the link for the dvd images is down at the moment
[02:44] <maxkelley> does anyone have an idea of when 5.10 is coming out?
[02:44] <GnuKemist> maxkelley, oct. 13
[02:44] <ken> EDENTIFY
[02:44] <CosmoDad> so ubuntu provides its own infrastructure of repository servers which are totally independent of deb reps?
[02:44] <ken> identify
[02:44] <Kris_k> man i tryed it in both dvd players it does the same thing :(
[02:44] <misfit_toy> what is the apt-get name to get beep media player skins?
[02:44] <sproingie> my goodness, those folks at opera are slick.  i expected just "a linux version"
[02:44] <Kris_k> works on windows so i dont think its the dvd drives
[02:44] <seife> i actually im not having sound on my USB headphones
[02:45] <sproingie> they have packaged for like every version of every major distro
[02:45] <amias> misfit_toy, you could use 'apt-cache search beep ' to find possible targets
[02:45] <bob2> kbrooks: it was made after universe did, and is supposed to be "beyond" that (lame pop physics joke)
[02:45] <kbrooks> sproingie: yeah very slick
[02:45] <ken> need help getting wine to run.... where is after I install it??
[02:45] <misfit_toy> amias, k thanks
[02:45] <bimberi> CosmoDad: yes - (<mirror>.)archive.ubuntu.com
[02:45] <kbrooks> bob2: it is!
[02:45] <CosmoDad> green_earz: cool I will
[02:45] <green_earz> np
[02:46] <Xenguy> ken: OPI: /join #winehq
[02:46] <GnuKemist> ken, type whereis wine
[02:46] <ken> what does opi mean..
[02:46] <kbrooks> OPI?
[02:46] <kbrooks> !opi
[02:46] <ubotu> kbrooks: What?
[02:46] <ken> where do I type it?
[02:46] <malv> ok, i updated to breezy, and now my soundcard doesn't show a master
[02:46] <Xenguy> ken: Of Possible Interest
[02:46] <Xenguy> ken: or type 'which wine'
[02:46] <GnuKemist> ken, open up a console window
[02:46] <malv> and consequently, I hear nothing from the speakers
[02:46] <ken> ok
[02:46] <eythian> ken: winehq.org , they have debs.
[02:47] <bimberi> CosmoDad: this page might be of interest too - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[02:47] <zeroverse> to open up "console window" go to applications > accessories > terminal
[02:47] <ken> already installed.... just can find it in menu.. or
[02:47] <GnuKemist> malv, how about pcm?
[02:47] <malv> pcm is there
[02:47] <malv> master is not
[02:47] <Xenguy> ubotu: OPI is er, from memory, that would be -> Of Possible Interest
[02:47] <ubotu> okay, Xenguy
[02:47] <CosmoDad> the main reason I'm thinking about switching to ubuntu is that I heard HP was building linux-"compatible" notebooks together with ubuntu devs
[02:47] <ken> ok thanks... kinda new to linux and stuff.. thanks
[02:47] <misfit_toy> hmmm, no beep skins in repos, oh well
[02:47] <CosmoDad> bimberi: thx I started reading that
[02:47] <GnuKemist> ken, sometimes an icons doesn't get created for the applications you install
[02:47] <Xenguy> !OPI
[02:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, opi is er, from memory, that would be -> Of Possible Interest
[02:47] <bimberi> CosmoDad: yw :)
[02:47] <cevizoglu> kewl, recovered ubuntu after a windows install :)
[02:48] <GnuKemist> misfit_toy, try to get skins for xmms
[02:48] <GnuKemist> misfit_toy, they both work
[02:48] <misfit_toy> GnuKemist, alrighty then, thanks
[02:48] <GnuKemist> mister_roboto, yw  =)
[02:48] <zblach> hey. i have a logitech wireless kb with media buttons. how do i use em with xmms?
[02:48] <GnuKemist> misfit_toy, yw
[02:48] <CosmoDad> so can anyone comment on whether HP notebooks and ubuntu support all hardware aspects like win32 does?
[02:49] <smo> I don't appear to beable to switch virtual terminals anymore .. regardless of option dontvtswitch in xorg.conf - am I missing some new detail with xorg?
[02:49] <GnuKemist> CosmoDad, I had a HP laptop and everything worked... the only thing I never cared to check were the function keys on top
[02:49] <zeroverse> well, i don't have a single HP component in my box and all hardware works
[02:50] <zeroverse> so i imagine if HP is going to work with any linux distros they won't have a very tough time getting things to work since they probably already do
[02:50] <cevizoglu> CosmoDad: you should check out the ubuntu laptop support wiki
[02:50] <amias> CosmoDad, take an ubuntu livecd to your local laptop shop and see what works
[02:50] <misfit_toy> GnuKemist, the weird thing is the only audio players that work since tuesday's update are totem and beep, xmms and amarok went on holiday. strange.
[02:50] <Xenguy> CosmoDad: linux-laptop.net
[02:50] <kurtbec> CosmoDad: if you want a laptop with good linux support I would take a look at an ibm
[02:50] <HrdwrBob> CosmoDad: dependsonthe model
[02:50] <HrdwrBob> but yes,IBM
[02:50] <VeRiTTo> HI
[02:50] <GnuKemist> misfit_toy, update to Breezy?
[02:51] <misfit_toy> GnuKemist, yeah
[02:51] <GnuKemist> misfit_toy, haven't taken the plunge yet
[02:51] <Xenguy> CosmoDad: thinkpads have a good track record
[02:51] <CosmoDad> kurtbec: I've had my experience with Thinkpads, there're quite well supported, just wondered if HP's linux campaign makes things even more smooth
[02:51] <GnuKemist> misfit_toy, if no solutions, file a bug
[02:51] <kurtbec> if only ibm had some better multimedia hardware it would be great but I guess that really isn't their target market.
[02:51] <amias> GnuKemist, its quicker and more stable on my laptop and desktop
[02:52] <kurtbec> CosmoDad: I'm working on an hp right now and I can guarantee it will be the last.
[02:52] <HrdwrBob> GnuKemist: snap :)
[02:52] <CosmoDad> kurtbec: how come?
[02:52] <misfit_toy> GnuKemist, yeah, I know...just wondered if anyone else has seen this.
[02:52] <VeRiTTo> HOw Can I download to manpages-es? but from windows
[02:52] <GnuKemist> amias, breezy?
[02:52] <breakthestate> does ubuntu come with any webcam software?
[02:52] <CosmoDad> cevizoglu: can you give me the URL of that wiki?
[02:52] <GnuKemist> HrdwrBob, hehe  =)
[02:52] <amias> GnuKemist, yup
[02:52] <CosmoDad> kurtbec: do you have one of the newer, "HP-Linux-supported" ones?
[02:52] <GnuKemist> amias, looking forward to the "jump" next Thursday
[02:52] <Xenguy> o/~ Let them eat war! o/~
[02:52] <kurtbec> CosmoDad: Its not quite two years old and I've had to replace the mousepad, the cdrom and now the screen is starting to flicker.
[02:53] <kurtbec> and I'm pretty careful with it.
[02:53] <amias> GnuKemist, tis nice , make sure you add usplash :)
[02:53] <VeRiTTo> HI
[02:53] <CosmoDad> kurtbec: that sucks
[02:53] <GnuKemist> amias, will remember that... I will then update my desktop too
[02:53] <VeRiTTo> help me please!
[02:54] <VeRiTTo> HOw Can I download to manpages-es? but from windows
[02:54] <cevizoglu> CosmoDad: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[02:54] <erirlar> hi, is there a way that i can right klick on the desktop so that the gnome menu popps up?
[02:54] <CosmoDad> cevizoglu: thanks
[02:54] <cevizoglu> CosmoDad: cross-ref that with linux-laptop.net
[02:54] <kbrooks> VeRiTTo: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:54] <TedLemon> Weird, there doesn't seem to be a dchroot package for breezy.
[02:54] <bimberi> VeRiTTo: http://packages.ubuntu.com  - search then downoad
[02:54] <kbrooks> bimberi: Faster than u XD
[02:55] <kurtbec> CosmoDad: yes it does.  Ibm's are built like tanks.  Hopefully Lenovo continues to produce quality laptops because their ibm desktops have gotten really cheap since they started producing them.
[02:55] <bimberi> kbrooks: hehe, not hard, but it did type more :P
[02:55] <bimberi> but typoed :/
[02:55] <sambagirl> ok i did a live cd boot that other thing threw me
[02:56] <kurtbec> anyone recompiled their kernel and been able to keep the nice ubuntu splash in there?
[02:56] <sambagirl> someone said i could do recovery or type Top
[02:57] <cevizoglu> kurtbec: uhhh... the t series from ibm has had very few problems.. and that's with around 30 laptops over a couple years
[02:57] <CosmoDad> well guys thanks for the starter. Gonna try out ubuntu these days.
[02:57] <Xenguy> CosmoDad: recommended :-)
[02:57] <bimberi> CosmoDad: you jolly well should, after all that :)
[02:57] <kurtbec> cevizoglu: I agree t's are nice.
[02:58] <kurtbec> i said their desktops have gotten very cheap since Lenovo started building them not their laptops, yet...
[02:58] <sambagirl> so i must format and start over i suppose... losing everything...
[02:58] <jmg> cevizoglu: 30 laptops over a couple of years to me sounds lioke problems. :)
[02:58] <sambagirl> ok
[02:58] <VeRiTTo> but How to install manpages-es
[02:58] <erirlar> is there a way that i can right klick on the desktop so that the gnome menu popps up?
[02:58] <jmg> sambagirl: whats broken?
[02:58] <cevizoglu> jmg: for 30 people?
[02:58] <Seveas> VeRiTTo, apt-get install manpages-ed
[02:58] <Seveas> VeRiTTo, apt-get install manpages-es
[02:58] <jmg> cevizoglu: ahh.. lol
[02:59] <kbrooks> gparted
[02:59] <abidin> !
[02:59] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, abidin
[02:59] <abidin> dpasd
[02:59] <abidin> d
[02:59] <abidin> asd
[02:59] <abidin> asd
[02:59] <abidin> asd
[02:59] <abidin> asd
[02:59] <abidin> as
[02:59] <jmg> parted hosed my box
[02:59] <abidin> d
[02:59] <seife> How do i switch from my speakers to my Headphones?
[02:59] <jmg> !lart abidin
[02:59] <guidan> how do i use wine?
[02:59] <Xenguy> bye
[02:59] <sambagirl> everything
[02:59] <VeRiTTo> but i download manpages-es-extra_0.8a.orig.tar
[02:59] <kurtbec> drink it
[03:00] <TedLemon> First you take out the cork.   Then you pour it in a glass.
[03:00] <sambagirl> i guess i willl just format and start over.
[03:00] <breakthestate> so i'm reading the linux howto for webcams, my modules are already loaded i believe, what software should i use with my webcam, any suggestions?
[03:00] <cevizoglu> ubotu, AOL CD's are good for nothing
[03:00] <ubotu> cevizoglu: okay
[03:00] <TedLemon> Allow time for it to breathe.
[03:00] <sambagirl> bbl chao
[03:00] <cevizoglu> hehe
[03:00] <sambagirl> canont even do a root logon
[03:00] <kbrooks> jmg: not appropriate to lart
[03:00] <bimberi> VeRiTTo: it's available in ubuntu's universe repository
[03:00] <sambagirl> bye
[03:00] <Seveas> VeRiTTo, you thtow that away again
[03:01] <Seveas> and install the manpages with apt-get
[03:01] <kbrooks> whats gtkmm?
[03:01] <Xenguy> kbrooks: apt-cache show gtkmm
[03:01] <kurtbec> breakthestate: xawtv is a pretty common app to use with webcams.  usually comes with motv which has a better interface.  think there is also a gtk based on gtcam or something like that.
[03:01] <mylastmorning> hello?
[03:01] <TedLemon> does anyone here know how to set up a build environment hosted on breezy?
[03:01] <VeRiTTo> but this pc is not in ubuntu
[03:02] <Seveas> TedLemon, apt-get install build-essential
[03:02] <dooglus> TedLemon: install "build-essential"
[03:02] <Seveas> VeRiTTo, then why in earth are you asking questions in here?
[03:02] <breakthestate> kurtbec: thx, is there a default webcam dev name in /dev for ubuntu?
[03:02] <bimberi> VeRiTTo: then download via packages.ubuntu.com, transfer to ubuntu machine and "sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb"
[03:02] <TedLemon> Seveas, dooglus, so just build without chroot?
[03:02] <breakthestate> or is it just /dev/video?
[03:03] <Seveas> TedLemon, pbuilder is an easy chroot system
[03:03] <kurtbec> breakthestate: that or /dev/video0
[03:03] <TedLemon> ok.
[03:03] <VeRiTTo> because, My pc is not on internet, and this pc is far way from my house and here there is internet
[03:03] <Seveas> TedLemon, info on hoe to set it up can be found in the wiiki
[03:03] <breakthestate> kurtbec: hmmmmmmmm, maybe all my modules aren't loaded
[03:03] <TedLemon> Yeah, the wiki starts with dchroot, thus my confusion.   :')
[03:03] <Seveas> VeRiTTo, right, take bimberis advise then
[03:03] <kurtbec> what kind of cam breakthestate
[03:03] <lllmanulll> mylastmorning, hello :)
[03:03] <TedLemon> I will see if I can get going by saerching for pbuilder.
[03:04] <breakthestate> logitech quickcam
[03:04] <VeRiTTo> Seveas thanks!
[03:04] <kurtbec> breakthestate: dmesg tell you anything good?
[03:05] <breakthestate> kurbec: yeah
[03:05] <smo> Is there anything obvious in xorg that'd stop me switching to virtual terminals (besides the dontvtswitch that's designed to do that).  I haven't been able to do so since hoary, and it's wearing thin
[03:05] <dooglus> I installed a .deb package and then deleted the .deb file.  Can I somehow get a list of its dependancies now?
[03:05] <breakthestate> kurtbed: is there a pastebin people here use a lot?
[03:06] <dooglus> !paste
[03:06] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:06] <kurtbec> guess so... ;-)
[03:06] <mister_roboto> smo: I just now did it on my laptop that is upgraded to breezy. works here too on hoary. how are you trying to switch?
[03:06] <breakthestate> kurtbec: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2834
[03:07] <smo> mister_roboto: ctrl+alt+Fn (same way as I have for _years_)
[03:07] <bimberi> dooglus: dpkg -p <package>
[03:07] <smo> (Fn being F1, F2, etc, not a funky laptop function key)
[03:07] <mister_roboto> smo: hmmm... it just plain works on my two machines.   <shrug>  don't know what would break that
[03:07] <dooglus> bimberi: thanks.  i'll try that.
[03:07] <bimberi> dooglus: yw
[03:08] <seife> how do i install the msttfonts pack?
[03:08] <Madpilot> seife: isn't it in Multiverse repo?
[03:08] <mister_roboto> smo: sure you don't have a stuck shift, ctl or alt key or something?
[03:08] <Xenguy> seife: I couldn't find it last time I looked
[03:08] <bimberi> seife: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts (in multiverse)
[03:08] <amias> smo: i had that problem , go to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard  and change alt-win key behaviour in the shortcuts layout options tab
[03:09] <smo> pretty certain, they work for everything else (and switch just fine once gdm's stopped)
[03:09] <Xenguy> seife: let me know if you find them - I'm pretty sure I couldn't see them
[03:09] <dooglus> bimberi: it lists information, but conflicts with what 'debfoster' tells me.
[03:09] <mister_roboto> amias: good to know that little trick!
[03:09] <seife> Xenguy, i couldnt see too, ive been looking for em since two days ago.
[03:10] <seife> Madpilot, i got all my repositories updated
[03:10] <mylastmorning> does anyone not recommend installing Americas Army?
[03:10] <seife> I dont see the package.
[03:10] <Xenguy> seife: and multiverse is enabled for you?
[03:10] <bimberi> dooglus: sry, not sure about that :|
[03:10] <seife> I would like to know how to switch from speakers to headphones, ive both plugged, i just hear the speakers
[03:10] <amias> mister_roboto, it bugged me for ages !
[03:10] <smo> amias: Looks like that's getting me closer to the root problem .. every option I change in there, I get n error dialog feeding me "Error activating XKB configuration."
[03:10] <seife> Xenguy, how do i enable multiverse? you mean on the repositories?
[03:10] <Xenguy> seife: yes
[03:10] <seife> Yes. they are
[03:10] <Xenguy> seife: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:11] <breakthestate> kurtbec: ???
[03:11] <Xenguy> seife: sounds like the same problem I was experiencing
[03:11] <Xenguy> seife: and hoary, yes?
[03:11] <seife>  Xenguy: Yes.
[03:11] <Madpilot> seife: running Hoary or Breezy?
[03:11] <amias> smo, does your /etc/x11/xorg.conf file mention xkb ?
[03:11] <Xenguy> seife: nod
[03:12] <rob__> hey everybody
[03:12] <dooglus> I'm having a problem with debfoster: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2835  Can someone help me please?
[03:12] <smo> amias: Not at all
[03:12] <amias> smo, that'll be it
[03:12] <mylastmorning> QUESTION, when installing America's Army, what should the install path and the link path be?
[03:12] <seife> Madpilot, Hoary.
[03:12] <seife> Xenguy, hoary is f0x0red.
[03:13] <amias> mylastmorning, oh don't tempt me ;-)
[03:13] <mylastmorning> amias, do you know?
[03:13] <breakthestate> kurtbec: maybe i didn't load all the right modules?  i didn't find my USBID on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras?highlight=%28webcam%29
[03:13] <dooglus> mylastmorning: I think he was tempted to tell you just where you can 'install' america's army
[03:14] <rob__> quick questions: you know that program under System-Administration Menu called Boot, or Boot Manager that was part of Breezy for a while?  What happened to it?  What was that programs name?   How can I re-install it?    (I can modefy lilo pritty easily manually, but Grub is a whole new process)
[03:14] <Madpilot> seife: I'm still running Hoary too. Let me check if the msfonts are still around...
[03:14] <mylastmorning> dooglus, where should I install the link path???
[03:14] <thompa> anybody know how to add a port 8443?
[03:14] <mylastmorning> dooglus /usr/sbin?
[03:14] <amias> mylastmorning, no but i'm tempted to say back in america but its probably not the answer you wanted
[03:14] <dooglus> mylastmorning: I've not idea, sorry.
[03:14] <mylastmorning> crap
[03:14] <dooglus> thompa: what do you want to add it to?
[03:14] <mylastmorning> amias... do you know where to install link paths?
[03:14] <smo> amias: Restarted with those added; now I'm getting the same error dialog when I login to gnome  (altho xprop shows the settings have taken hold)
[03:15] <mylastmorning> amias, /usr/sbin?
[03:15] <thompa> usually i add it to the end of my ip address in a browser :8443
[03:15] <thompa> it opens plesk
[03:15] <kurtbec> breakthestate: have you tried a v4l viewing app?
[03:15] <breakthestate> kurtbec: would a restart help? does ubuntu attempt to autodetect usb devices and load the right modules if present?
[03:15] <dooglus> thompa: so what's the problem?
[03:15] <amias> mylastmorning, if you don't know where to put it then a safe bet would be to make a directory in your home dir and put there , minimal chance of damage
[03:15] <breakthestate> kurtbec: sry no, but i figured it wouldn't work since i can't find /dev/video*
[03:16] <seife> Madpilot, ok, im here waiting..
[03:16] <rob__> no buddy knows what I am talking about?
[03:16] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone else have  problems after using synaptic to update their hoary install?
[03:16] <thompa> could not connect
[03:16] <amias> smo, breezy or warty ?
[03:16] <Lord_Maynoth> I have formated twice
[03:16] <mylastmorning> ok amias.
[03:16] <Lord_Maynoth> and evertime I update it screws it up
[03:16] <kurtbec> breakthestate: do you see v4l in the output of lsmod?
[03:16] <smo> breezy
[03:16] <amias> smo, or indeed hoary
[03:16] <thompa> do i need to sudo it or something?
[03:16] <Dr_Fate> I don't like the auto update reminder
[03:16] <rob__> Lord_Maynoth, my laptop randomly crashes on me when running synaptic (been running breezy fro a while)
[03:17] <kurtbec> breakthestate: reboot won't do any good.   closest thing you could do is unplug it from usb port and then plug it back in.
[03:17] <smo> amias: It's been like this since the transition to xorg.  I've been tempted to re-install, but for odd reasons I'm attached to a very particular version of lvm
[03:17] <dooglus> thompa: is 'plesk' installed and running?
[03:17] <Madpilot> seife: the ms ttf stuff seems to be gone from all the repos
[03:17] <thompa> yes
[03:17] <Lord_Maynoth> like my add/remove programs locks up
[03:17] <thompa> on a remote server
[03:17] <Lord_Maynoth> if I update using synaptic
[03:17] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone else get that
[03:17] <Lord_Maynoth> I posted in the forums
[03:17] <Madpilot> seife: you can double check packages.ubuntu.com if you like, but it does seem to be removed
[03:17] <Lord_Maynoth> and other people had the issue also
[03:17] <dooglus> thompa: can you connect to that server from any other machine?
[03:17] <Lord_Maynoth> but no one knew how to fix it
[03:17] <Lord_Maynoth> other than reformating and not updating
[03:17] <thompa> doodlus: I just did on my notebook
[03:18] <thompa> ill try it again
[03:18] <amias> smo, is it at all non standard ? (e.g. laptop , wireless keyboard , bluetooth , etc )
[03:18] <crimsun> Lord_Maynoth: does it occur with aptitude and apt-get as well?
[03:18] <seife> Madpilot, can u link me?
[03:18] <rob__> Lord_Maynoth: running both at once? dont they both use apt-get?
[03:18] <seife> Madpilot, can u link me?
[03:18] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah synaptic is just a front end for apt-get
[03:18] <Madpilot> seife: http://package.ubuntu.com and then search there...
[03:18] <crimsun> (no, it's a frontend for libapt)
[03:18] <Lord_Maynoth> my bad
[03:19] <Lord_Maynoth> I dont use apt-get its lame
[03:19] <thompa> man this is bad. i got some 6000 spam messages
[03:19] <Lord_Maynoth> :P
[03:19] <crimsun> please test with aptitude and see if you can reproduce it
[03:19] <Lord_Maynoth> if you look on the forums there are others also who can reproduce it
[03:19] <rob__> so does anyone know what that graphical Grub Boot Manager was called?   i would like to re-install it
[03:19] <smo> amias: Fairly normal .. MS internet keyboard, all ps/2 (I do like their hardware  hehe)
[03:19] <eythian> I have an address that I use with the wine app database and bug tracker, and it mostly gets spam offering cheaps microsoft and adobe products :)
[03:19] <Lord_Maynoth> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64872
[03:20] <emma> rob__: it was a component in gnome-system-tools
[03:20] <thompa> mail server is fked totally now
[03:20] <mister_roboto> !grub
[03:20] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:20] <rob__> emma: thank you.
[03:20] <amias> smo, should be pretty normal i think
[03:20] <crimsun> that thread is less than helpful
[03:20] <emma> rob__: boot admin was disabled (not built) because it was not working properly
[03:21] <smo> amias: I'll be back in 5. Going to create a fresh user account to see if it's my settings or X's
[03:21] <erirlar> is there a way i can right klick on the desktop so that the gnome menu will pop up?
[03:21] <amias> smo, good idea
[03:22] <rob__> emma:  oh dear thats a problem, when it uninstalled for some reason my default grub settings were wiped out is there any replacement type program?
[03:22] <amias> erirlar, you could bind it to the windows key
[03:22] <erirlar> amias, how can i do that?
[03:22] <thompa> dooglus: no my plesk is broke. nevermind
[03:22] <dooglus> thompa: what is plesk by the way?
[03:22] <Chambers`> hmm..even with the upgraded Evolution, i still think there is somethig wrong
[03:23] <erirlar> amias, nevermind i got it ;)
[03:23] <amias> erirlar,  System->Preferences->Keyboard third tab
[03:23] <WhyvasLT> how do i get the kernel sources installed?
[03:23] <thompa> like cpanel
[03:23] <WhyvasLT> the one in synaptics is old
[03:23] <seife> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/x11/msttcorefonts <= im here, where do i download
[03:23] <dooglus> oh, right
[03:23] <thompa> its a control panel for domain admin or server admin etc
[03:24] <thompa> nice bright gui icons.
[03:24] <amias> WhyvasLT, 'sudo apt-get install linux-sources-x.x.xx' where x is the version you want
[03:24] <WhyvasLT> amias, thanks
[03:24] <amias> !kernel-sources
[03:24] <ubotu> amias: I give up, what is it?
[03:24] <apprentice> hello
[03:24] <kbrooks> amias: add it if you like
[03:24] <thompa> dooglus: i was testing an open relay and got spammed really bad it seems,  now smtp mail is broken
[03:25] <bimberi> seife: click on the word "all" in the download section (under "Architecture")
[03:25] <amias> ubotu, kernel-sources is 'sudo apt-get install linux-sources-x.x.xx' where x is the version you want
[03:25] <ubotu> okay, amias
[03:25] <Skelator> hey,... I'm on Breezy.... what do I need to do on 13th october?
[03:25] <Lord_Maynoth> format
[03:25] <Lord_Maynoth> :P
[03:25] <HrdwrBob> have a party
[03:25] <N17R0> rofl
[03:25] <dooglus> thompa: I guess that's what happens to open relays...
[03:25] <Lord_Maynoth> install windows98 instead
[03:25] <kbrooks> Lord_Maynoth: please don't joke around...
[03:25] <N17R0> im dist-upgrading atm
[03:25] <dooglus> thompa: still, if you ever run out of viagra...
[03:25] <Lord_Maynoth> just kidding
[03:25] <thompa> stupid mistake on my part
[03:25] <WhyvasLT> Couldn't find package linux-sources-2.6.12
[03:25] <amias> Skelator, sit back relax and watch the rest of the world catch up
[03:26] <N17R0> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[03:26] <N17R0> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[03:26] <rob__> Skelator: you could system - administration- update manager
[03:26] <seife> bimberi, i downloaded it, now what.
[03:26] <seife> where do i have to unpack those files
[03:26] <thompa> back to work seeya!
[03:26] <amias> WhyvasLT, try kernel-sources , linux-sources is there for breezy
[03:26] <WhyvasLT> ok
[03:26] <Lord_Maynoth> do you guys think they will auto-detect and mount your windows volumes by the time dapper drake comes out?
[03:27] <WhyvasLT> amias, same thing
[03:27] <crimsun> WhyvasLT: if you're on Hoary, you want linux-source-2.6.10
[03:27] <WhyvasLT> im on breezy
[03:27] <HrdwrBob> you probably don't wnat the full source
[03:27] <HrdwrBob> only the headers
[03:27] <crimsun> it's linux-source-2.6.12, then.
[03:27] <crimsun> not -sources-
[03:27] <eythian> seife: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[03:27] <WhyvasLT> crimsun, thanks
[03:28] <amias> WhyvasLT, have you run 'apt-get update' recently ?
[03:28] <bimberi> seife: are you doing this on an ubuntu system? why not enable the multiverse repository and use apt-get/synaptic and get and install it
[03:28] <bimberi> ?
[03:28] <WhyvasLT> never
[03:28] <laforge> /etc/X11/xorg.conf is suppose to point to where is breezy?
[03:28] <WhyvasLT> i use synaptics
[03:28] <WhyvasLT> synaptic
[03:28] <crimsun> laforge: it's not a symlink
[03:28] <laforge> crimsun what do you mean?
[03:28] <bimberi> seife: anyway, to install  -  "sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb"
[03:28] <crimsun> laforge: I mean it's a conffile; it doesn't "point" anywhere.
[03:28] <amias> WhyvasLT, do the update first to get the new package list , 2.6.12 is pretty new
[03:29] <laforge> well bimberi last night told me it should point to somewhere, crimsun
[03:29] <amias> WhyvasLT, and your cached package list is to old to know about it
[03:29] <crimsun> erm, what is it supposed to "point" to?
[03:29] <WhyvasLT> yeah it's working now
[03:29] <crimsun> it has dozens of configuration fields
[03:29] <bimberi> laforge: no, that's not right
[03:29] <WhyvasLT> i need this to compile ndiswrapper right?
[03:29] <WhyvasLT> or do i just need the headers?
[03:29] <laforge> bimberi: ?
[03:29] <crimsun> WhyvasLT: just the headers.
[03:30] <amias> WhyvasLT, dunno , never tried it
[03:30] <seife> bimberi, i cant dunno why
[03:30] <WhyvasLT> crap
[03:30] <crimsun> WhyvasLT: aren't you using ndiswrapper-source in Breezy?
[03:30] <seife> bimberi, explain me please i have the package and i dont know where to unzip
[03:30] <crimsun> WhyvasLT: better yet, why not just use ndiswrapper that's already compiled?
[03:30] <WhyvasLT> i just downloaded the current one off the website
[03:30] <crimsun> WhyvasLT: ndiswrapper-utils
[03:30] <joetheodd> !cedega
[03:30] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[03:31] <bimberi> laforge: that forums page said to edit xorg.conf and modify the fonts section to point to the correct location of your fonts
[03:31] <Chambers`> hey guys, after setting up Evolution to use an exchange server, i get this error.  Anyone know what it means or how to fix? "Error while scanning folders in" Exchange Server Home" Could not connect to Evolution Exchange backend process: no such file or directory"
[03:31] <bimberi> seife: you don't need to unzip it.  just download the file somewhere and run the command i told you
[03:31] <ksmurf> I tried to add p4-clockmod for startup to init.d but it doesn't start? How do I do it or where can I find a how-to on adding modules(if that what this is)
[03:31] <laforge> bimberi: ohh, did check the forum page, just copyed what you sent, let me check it out
[03:32] <seife> i ran it
[03:32] <seife> Drectory dont exist
[03:32] <seife> Thats what it tells me
[03:32] <ksmurf> I have to modprobe every time and then powernowd
[03:32] <ksmurf> any ideas?
[03:32] <bimberi> seife:  please paste the command you ran and the error to a pastebin
[03:33] <bimberi> !pastebin
[03:33] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:33] <seife> ok sec
[03:34] <jsubl2> Chambers you on breezy
[03:35] <Chambers`> jsubl2: yes i am
[03:35] <Chambers`> with the latest updates
[03:35] <bimberi> laforge: from my reading of it you need to change the FontPath entries in xorg.conf from /usr/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/fonts (or whatever that page said).
[03:35] <don824chan> hey guys i have a slight problem trying to install a program called gmask, as it is only japanese
[03:35] <Chambers`> just d/led like 232MB worth this morning :P
[03:35] <jsubl2> Chambers`: check out this thread  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65293
[03:35] <Chambers`> ok, thanks
[03:37] <Pickle_Weasel> what's the firewall name?
[03:37] <don824chan> does anyone here speak japanese who can help me?
[03:37] <Pickle_Weasel> the built in one
[03:37] <Pickle_Weasel> i can't think of it
[03:37] <N17R0> firestarter?
[03:37] <bimberi> Pickle_Weasel: iptables? firestarter?
[03:37] <Pickle_Weasel> iptables, that's it
[03:37] <Pickle_Weasel> thanks once again ^.^
[03:37] <bimberi> :)
[03:37] <WhyvasLT> what package is the kernel headers?
[03:38] <WhyvasLT> kernel-headers-2.6.12 ?
[03:38] <bimberi> Pickle_Weasel: you've been asking Q's within my limited knowledge set :)
[03:38] <laforge> bimberi: my FontPath is set to /usr/share/X11/fonts/
[03:38] <Pickle_Weasel> haha, i know how that goes, i installed ubuntu, knew nothing about it, learned some basic things in a matter of 2 days, come in here for help, and ended up helping 5 people myself
[03:39] <don824chan> i think i'm following the instructions but i get tons of error messages when i try to "make" the gmask
[03:39] <bimberi> laforge: ah, and does that directory exist?
[03:39] <laforge> bimberi: yes
[03:39] <[troin] > hello
[03:40] <[troin] > i've got trouble with my ubuntu linux, It cannot connect to my wifi network
[03:40] <bimberi> laforge: darn, then that's probably not the issue then :/
[03:40] <laforge> bimberi: this one doesn't /usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic
[03:41] <laforge> bimberi: and this one /usr/share/X11/fonts/CID
[03:41] <DanglyBits> ok...how do i setup firefox 32 bit and flash 32 bit in 64bit ubuntu?
[03:42] <marcellus> DanglyBits: a chroot environment is what I did
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> DanglyBits,  :P now ya know why i just use the 32bit disrtos...
[03:43] <DanglyBits> I am just trying out ubuntu...gentoo user usually...its one command line to get both in 64bit gentoo
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> anyone knows how to mount a cd in a cd so that the program that runs in that directory can access to the cd ? mount --bind /media/cdrom /new/place doesn't work
[03:43] <bimberi> laforge: yeah, i've got some FontPath entries in my xorg.conf that don't exist either.  I don't think that this is the problem with tightvncserver sorry
[03:44] <don824chan> can somone help me with installing a non-multiverse/universe program?
[03:44] <seife> man F@CK ubuntu, every time i change font it get fucked up
[03:44] <seife> now i dont see the lower bar again
[03:44] <laforge> bimberi: darn, is there another program i can try or a way around it?
[03:44] <DanglyBits> marcellus: any howtos on that chroot stuff for ubuntu?
[03:44] <seife> i wont reformat again
[03:45] <seife> iwill just uninstall this SH"AW"tQWTWQ
[03:45] <bimberi> laforge: vncserver
[03:45] <cycom> seife: wow. good job. You really have that windows mindset down.  'If it doesn't work, reinstall.'
[03:45] <laforge> bimberi: just vncserver in terminal?
[03:46] <bimberi> laforge: no, it's another package
[03:46] <Kris_k> will recompileing the kernel help speed up anything ?
[03:46] <laforge> bimberi: ok
[03:46] <breakthestate> so can i just add an /dev/video0 line to my /etc/fstab folder and make up a mount director in /mnt or will that screw everything up?
[03:46] <seife> cycom, are u helping me or whut
[03:46] <seife> :D
[03:46] <don824chan> can anyone just kind of try to help me here as i have no idea what i'm doing
[03:46] <_n00blar_> Hi all, can anyone recommend a backup program....I'd like to backup my data and some system config files to DvD
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> Kris_k, unless you know what you are doing , it will screw things up more than speeding up
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> _n00blar_,  tar
[03:46] <laforge> bimberi: vnc4server or regular vncserver?
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> don824chan, i don't know what you want either ...
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> pls ask
[03:47] <don824chan> i've been asking
[03:47] <don824chan> k
[03:47] <DanglyBits> anyone have a howto on that chroot enviroment stuff for ubuntu?
[03:47] <don824chan> i tried to install this program called gmask
[03:47] <marcellus> DanglyBits: I think I followed these instructions   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> its not in anywhere ?
[03:47] <don824chan> located here: http://homepage3.nifty.com/furumizo/l_gmaskd.htm
[03:47] <cycom> seife: I don're really have any information on the problem, since all I have is 'I changed the font and the lower bar dissapeard. give me something to work with and maybe I will.
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> does it have .deb ?
[03:47] <bimberi> laforge: either, up to you
[03:47] <laforge> bimberi: ok
[03:47] <don824chan> if one was to follow that link, one would see that it is not in a roman script
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> roman ?
[03:47] <don824chan> like
[03:47] <don824chan> japanese
[03:47] <don824chan> or arabic
[03:48] <don824chan> or something i don't know i think its japanese
[03:48] <kurtbec> Kris_k: you may get a little bit of a speed up but it won't be anything you'll really notice.  Usually you can save on the kernel memory footprint by stripping out what you don't need and making a smaller kernel image.
[03:48] <don824chan> but to me it appears as random symobls
[03:48] <fmasi> How to instal gaim 1.5 for hoary ???
[03:48] <don824chan> REGARDLESS i installed the file because i have gmask on my windows in english
[03:48] <_n00blar_> anything else other than tar..?
[03:48] <don824chan> downloaded*
[03:48] <crimsun> fmasi: just wait 7 more days fore Breezy?
[03:48] <crimsun> for^
[03:48] <cycom> dammit. he left.
[03:48] <fmasi> ok
[03:48] <don824chan> but there is no english version of gmask for linux
[03:48] <bimberi> only 6 here :P
[03:49] <laforge> bimberi: off topic question, i installed a few games on my laptop,  but i can't find them.  Like escape from pong, etc.
[03:49] <don824chan> so i installed it and extracted it
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> ok
[03:49] <laforge> bimberi: is there a way to get them in the games section of Xfce, and not having to execute from terminal?
[03:49] <don824chan> and it came with a readme file but since its not in english, i have no idea what it says except for a few commands
[03:49] <Kris_k> man i have so many problems on linux right now lol
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> installed and extract ?
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> i thought extract and install
[03:49] <don824chan> downloaded excuse me
[03:49] <don824chan> i used the wrong word again
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> Kris_k, what kind of prob ?
[03:49] <breakthestate> Kris: hang in there
[03:49] <kurtbec> Kris_k: whats broke man
[03:49] <SuseUX> anyone got the nvidia driver to compile?
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> don824chan, ok you downloaded
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> SuseUX, there is
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> at nvidia.com
[03:50] <bimberi> laforge: sorry, xfce is not well known to me
[03:50] <don824chan> yes and extracted
[03:50] <Kris_k> lol
[03:50] <don824chan> it came with a file called Makefile
[03:50] <SuseUX> wickedpuppy, yes I have it, but there is no kernel source for K7 kernel
[03:50] <don824chan> and i get the feeling I should do something with that but i'm not sure what
[03:50] <laforge> bimberi: ok, going to try it out, brb
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> SuseUX, www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:50] <bimberi> laforge: the locate command can be useful to find things (is uses a database that you keep up to date with the updatedb command)
[03:50] <Kris_k> well first games arnt running right in Cedega, Video Dvd's Do not play right, there will be more problems after i fix those
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> don824chan, you will have to read README
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> :P
[03:51] <don824chan> its not in english!
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> Kris_k, cedega doesn't support all games
[03:51] <Madpilot> wickedpuppy: recommending the ubuntuguide is not recommended...
[03:51] <SuseUX> :-)
[03:51] <don824chan> i can post the important parts in #flood
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> don824chan, now thats ... ah ... what can we do ?
[03:51] <Kris_k> wickedpuppy well im having problems in hl2 games
[03:51] <cevizoglu> what is the difference between "suspend" and "hibernate" from the logout menu?
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> Madpilot, i know but ok ok ... would you go through the steps with him ?
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> hl2 ? i don't think it is well supported yet ? no ? i never play windows games in linux ... i play them in windows
[03:52] <don824chan> wickedpuppy, go to flood and i'll post the instructions from readme file, it has english commands, but they aren';t working for me
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> don824chan, just pm me ?
[03:52] <kurtbec> Kris_k: whats the dvd problem?
[03:53] <don824chan>   make
[03:53] <don824chan>  gmask 
[03:53] <don824chan> su 
[03:53] <don824chan>   make install
[03:53] <Kris_k> well i tried 3 video players and they all play the dvd crappylike
[03:53] <don824chan> /usr/local/bin gmask 
[03:53] <don824chan> 
[03:53] <don824chan>   make uninstall
[03:53] <SuseUX> wickedpuppy, i'm running 5.10!
[03:53] <don824chan> /usr/local/bin/gmask 
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> don824chan,
[03:53] <don824chan> 
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> pm
[03:53] <Xenguy> don824chan: screw off
[03:53] <don824chan>   make clean
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> private message
[03:53] <don824chan> 
[03:53] <don824chan> gmask 
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> stop!!!!
[03:53] <don824chan> .gmask_ini 
[03:53] <Xenguy>  /igr don824chan
[03:53] <Kris_k> well i tried 3 video players and they all play the dvd crappylike, glitchy and squary
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> don824chan, pm = private message
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> oh boy
[03:53] <DanglyBits> marcellus: found the howto tried to sudo apt-get install dchroot debootstrap but couldnt find package dchroot ...using breezy badger...any suggestions????
[03:54] <Kris_k> dma is set on the drive so thats not hte problem
[03:54] <laforge> ubuntuserver:1 (jordan)'
[03:54] <tritium> somebody please ping me if the channel gets flooded like that again
[03:55] <bimberi> don824chan: /msg + paste doesn't work well.  use /query <nick> to open a separate window
[03:55] <wickedpuppy> i am pming him ... i think he is also a irc newbie
[03:55] <mylastmorning> when I play Americas Army I get this error, anyone know how to fix? open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy
[03:55] <bimberi> wickedpuppy: k :)
[03:55] <mylastmorning> QUESTION: when I play Americas Army I get this error, anyone know how to fix? open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy
[03:55] <hondje> mylastmorning: killall esd, then run the AA command
[03:56] <Cuateco> hola
[03:56] <malv> welp. spent a good 5 hours trying to figure out why I can't hear sound despite all the modules being loaded
[03:56] <Cuateco> alguien me puede ayudar por favor??
[03:56] <malv> no luck
[03:56] <Cuateco> hola
[03:56] <Cuateco> alguien me puede ayudar por favor??
[03:56] <marcellus> DanglyBits: Its in universe and I use breezy too
[03:57] <Xenguy> !es
[03:57] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:57] <Cuateco> gracias
[03:57] <Laforge38> bimberia: where would i get vncviewer?
[03:57] <Diskgrind> I need to setup the screenmagnifier, help??  cant find it in synaptic package manager.
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> they are in apt-get
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> you can also get them in synaptic
[03:58] <Geno__> Hello everyone
[03:58] <Kris_k> wickedpuppy well i tried 3 video players and they all play the dvd crappylike, glitchy and squary
[03:58] <Geno__> Is it normal the the dvd download does noe work anymore?
[03:59] <DanglyBits> marcellus: tried universe and still cant find it
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> Kris_k, i play my dvd in tottem ... all no prob
[03:59] <N17R0> Kris_k: do u have DMA enabled for ur DVD-rom ?
[03:59] <DavidLeeRoth> at the linuxworld awards in london last night, ubuntu was voted as best distro
[04:00] <Kris_k> DMA is enabled, using another player wont work i tried 3 diffrent players an tottem doesnt even load anyways lol
[04:00] <Diskgrind> can someone help me install the assistive technology support?
[04:00] <N17R0> u tryed mplayer also ?
[04:00] <marcellus> DanglyBits: deb http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu breezy universe restricted multiverse main   is in my sources.list and I can find it
[04:01] <Kris_k> N17R0 ive tried XINE, Mplayer, VLC
[04:01] <DanglyBits> marcellus: i'll check my sources.list
[04:01] <logikal_> what are some sites for ubuntu KDE themes, I want to make it look nice.
[04:01] <logikal_> ?
[04:01] <N17R0> ahh breezy dist-upgrade finished after 1 hour, goota reboot, brb :P
[04:01] <logikal_> any clues, anyone?
[04:01] <Kris_k> see thats the biggest problem no one can fix my problems lmao
[04:02] <SillyCone> is there a way to setup mplayer so that when it is open and I double click on a video file, it doesnt open a second mplayer window, but plays that file in the mplayer that's already open?
[04:02] <Geno__> logikal_: ask on #kubuntu
[04:02] <Geno__> Is it normal the the dvd RC download does noe work anymore
[04:02] <Hobbsee> logikal: kde-look.org
[04:04] <Diskgrind> do you have to install additional codecs to get DVD's to play in Totem?
[04:04] <alksdjfoiwa> hey
[04:04] <justeco> wow, busy channel...
[04:04] <alksdjfoiwa> I didnt set a root password at installation
[04:04] <TiMiDo> !tell Diskgrind about dvd
[04:04] <alksdjfoiwa> how do I use su?
[04:04] <TiMiDo> !tell alksdjfoiwa about root
[04:04] <Kris_k> why hasent games made in linux come out of the 2d ara
[04:04] <pschulz01_> Greetings.. what package is required to 'make gconfig' for the kernel?
[04:04] <guidan> tell me about dvd
[04:04] <VIal> hola
[04:04] <zorba64> !dvd
[04:04] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[04:04] <zorba64> !root
[04:04] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:05] <alksdjfoiwa> I just need a quick answer damnit
[04:05] <Diskgrind> where is hoary-extras
[04:05] <VIal> nesecito ayuda
[04:05] <zorba64> alksdjfoiwa: no spoonfeeding arounf here
[04:05] <Geno__> damnit read it, it's on the top
[04:05] <justeco> alksdjfoiwa, You probably aren'd doing yourselves any favores by getting a quick answer.  Check out http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:05] <_jason> !tell alksdjfoiwa about sudo
[04:06] <pschulz01_> alksdjfoiwa: su - 'switch user'. see 'su -h'
[04:06] <alksdjfoiwa> DAMNIT, IT FOR MY FUCKING FRIEND... I USE GENTOO
[04:06] <_jason> alksdjfoiwa:  chill...
[04:06] <alksdjfoiwa> I DONT LIKE UBUNTU
[04:06] <logikal_> ubotu tell logikal windows
[04:06] <logikal_> ubotu tell logikal about windows
[04:06] <HrdwrBob> !ops
[04:06] <ubotu> well, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[04:06] <zorba64> alksdjfoiwa: tell you f...... friend to get on and ask
[04:06] <logikal_> ubotu tell logikal about mounting windows
[04:06] <tritium> thanks HrdwrBob
[04:07] <logikal_> ubotu tell logikal about mounting windows drives
[04:07] <HrdwrBob> np
[04:07] <logikal_> :\
[04:07] <justeco> alksdjfoiwa, Oh, I didn't understand that you were beligerant...  I'll hurry up and answer then..
[04:07] <hondje> lol
[04:07] <Madpilot> !tell logikal_ about windowsdrives
[04:07] <hondje> logikal_: mount -t ntfs /dev/whatever /your/mount/point
[04:07] <segfault2k> who is the admin of art.ubuntu.com?
[04:07] <pschulz01_> Doing a 'make gconfig' for a linux kernel gives the following error: "You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0.". What packages should i install to get these?
[04:08] <laforge> would it make sense that vnc4server executes but vncserver gives me font errors?
[04:08] <Diskgrind> can someone help me install the assistive techonolgiy package????
[04:08] <twysted> pschulz01> glib and gtk ;)
[04:08] <segfault2k> who is the admin of art.ubuntu.com?
[04:08] <DavidLeeRoth> at the linuxworld awards in london last night, ubuntu was voted as best distro\
[04:08] <pschulz01_> twyste: You need '-dev' for the headers.
[04:08] <twysted> segfault2k we heard you the first time so please wait for an answer
[04:09] <zorba64> pschulz01_: try apt-cache search on those
[04:09] <Kris_k> how to run a .deb package ????
[04:09] <SuseUX> DavidLeeRoth, wonder why :-)
[04:09] <twysted> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[04:09] <DavidLeeRoth> Kris_k, are you wanting to install one?
[04:09] <Kris_k> yes
[04:09] <DavidLeeRoth> dpkg -i xxx.deb
[04:09] <segfault2k> twysted: can you hear on irc?
[04:09] <segfault2k> =D
[04:09] <mark_> Hey guys
[04:09] <twysted> with text to speech i can ;)
[04:10] <mark_> How do I upgrade to breezy?
[04:10] <segfault2k> cool :D
[04:10] <zorba64> mark_: if you need to ask, better wait for your disks
[04:10] <Kris_k> gah where can i get this at libsdl-image1.2
[04:10] <pschulz01_> zorba64: Have tried that .. but still not sure.
[04:10] <segfault2k> Mark_
[04:10] <segfault2k> change every hoary in sources.list
[04:10] <segfault2k> with a breezy
[04:11] <segfault2k> and apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade as root (sudo su)
[04:11] <twysted> Mark_
[04:11] <twysted> are you upgrading to test breezy?
[04:11] <segfault2k> breezy rocks :P
[04:11] <DavidLeeRoth> i have a question?  How do you pronouncy hoary?  it has caused some pretty embarrassing moments for me.  (people callying it slutty etc lol)
[04:12] <segfault2k> why ubuntu dont have a kde by default?
[04:12] <DavidLeeRoth> segfault2k, you can download kubuntu
[04:12] <dmlinux> Hey guys how do i unlock things that are on my desktop?
[04:12] <eythian> when breezy comes out, will it be simple enough to update from the CD? (there is a reason for this:)
[04:12] <twysted> segfault2k, because ubuntu is gnome based ;)
[04:12] <synackuator> isn't like whore-e
[04:12] <synackuator> *it
[04:12] <Hobbsee> segfault2k: it does, and it's called kubuntu
[04:12] <eythian> dmlinux, what do you mean by unlock?
[04:12] <zorba64> eythian: yup
[04:12] <twysted> eythian> it should be pretty easy to upgrade from cd
[04:12] <eythian> cool
[04:12] <Hobbsee> yeah, cd upgrade is simple
[04:12] <Kiwi____> whats the 'easy way' to format my flash drive?
[04:12] <Ryan_T> How can i partition my hard drive without doing a clean install?
[04:13] <dmlinux> eythian, i put my MP3s file there, and its locked, i cant move itor delete any files in it
[04:13] <Diskgrind> you can have both GUI's in Ubuntu
[04:13] <pschulz01_> DavidLeeRoth: well.. at least it is memorable.
[04:13] <Diskgrind> both gnome and kde
[04:13] <segfault2k> [22:12]  <Hobbsee> segfault2k: it does, and it's called kubuntu <-- ahh :D so,  kubuntu is better? :D
[04:13] <mark_> zorba64, a link would be great. I did it once already today
[04:13] <pschulz01_> Kiwi____: To what?
[04:13] <Hobbsee> segfault2k: well, for those of us who prefer kde, yes
[04:13] <Ryan_T> How can i partition my hard drive without doing a clean install?
[04:13] <DavidLeeRoth> qtparted
[04:13] <eythian> dmlinux, hmm. Press 'ctrl-r', maybe they're not really there, and this will refresh it
[04:13] <Hobbsee> Ryan_T: gparted
[04:14] <twysted> ryan_t we saw your question the first time ;)
[04:14] <Ryan_T> srry
[04:14] <dmlinux> eythian i did, they are
[04:14] <dmlinux> eythian has a little padlock symbol on the upper right of the icon
[04:14] <Kiwi____> pschulz01: Its corrupted i want to reformat it to FAT32
[04:14] <Ryan_T> Hobbsee: whats gtparted
[04:14] <Ryan_T> Hobbsee: *qtparted
[04:14] <Hobbsee> Ryan_T: partitioner, a graphical one
[04:14] <eythian> dmlinux, oh. right click->properties->permissions. Make sure you own it.
[04:15] <Geno__>  Is it normal the the dvd RC download does not work anymore?
[04:15] <DavidLeeRoth> in soviet russia, the file owns you!!
[04:15] <DAC1138> can anyone explain to me the difference between a release candidate and the final release of breezy?
[04:15] <mark_> someone send me a link the steps the upgrading Ubuntu
[04:15] <pschulz01_> as root, mkfs.vfat <partition>
[04:15] <twysted> Geno_, are you using a bookmarked link?
[04:15] <dmlinux> eythian i owned it , but "write" was taken off, got it now
[04:15] <Geno__> no
[04:15] <DavidLeeRoth> mark_ look at the irc topic
[04:15] <DAC1138> mark_, http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy
[04:15] <zorba64> DAC1138: about  a week of bug squishing etc
[04:15] <Geno__> twysted: simply on the download page
[04:15] <dmlinux> eythian hey do you know how to make Gdesklets run on start up?
[04:15] <twysted> DAC1138, release candidate is like a beta, final release is what you want
[04:16] <concept10> DAC1138, like buying a new car before they put the 4th wheel on it
[04:16] <DAC1138> so the RC is nothing more than a renamed daily build
[04:16] <twysted> hehe ^5 concept10
[04:16] <Ryan_T> Where do u get or how do i use qtparted
[04:16] <eythian> dmlinux, add it as a session program I think.
[04:16] <DavidLeeRoth> twysted, wil the cd's from shipit.ubuntu.com be the fianl release or the release candidate?
[04:16] <twysted> DAC1138 correct
[04:16] <Diskgrind> can I get help installing the assistive technology package???
[04:16] <DAC1138> got it. thanks
[04:16] <DavidLeeRoth> Ryan_T google for qtparted
[04:16] <Madpilot> DAC1138: I think "release canidate" translates as "almost ready to go"...
[04:16] <concept10> DavidLeeRoth, final release of course
[04:16] <twysted> DavidLeeRoth shipit only releases finals
[04:16] <pschulz01_> Kiwi____: just don't ge tthe partition wrong. (Should be /dev/sda1 if you have no other storage attached.)
[04:17] <DAC1138> i tried the daily build about 5 days ago and it was "broken". i wont go into detail
[04:17] <benkong2_wrk> !wireless
[04:17] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:17] <dmlinux> eythian, i did ,  but do i have to go to the root program or just type in Gdesklets under command ?
[04:17] <mark_> DavidLeeRoth where is that?
[04:17] <Geno__> The DVD download just shows a 403 error.
[04:17] <Epix> wow, 4'33" by Cage is an amazing song
[04:17] <_jason> Ryan_T:  gparted is available on the liveCD... I used that the other day
[04:17] <concept10> DAC1138, the daily build could be broken
[04:17] <DAC1138> so i was hoping the "release canidate" might translate into something useable. ill wait a week though
[04:17] <Ryan_T> _Jason:
[04:17] <seife> Hi i need help
[04:17] <Epix> Breezy killed my computer
[04:17] <Ryan_T> _Jason: so i can use it to creat partitions?
[04:17] <Amaranth> DAC1138: If you have any problems with it, now is the time to file bug reports.
[04:17] <eythian> dmlinux, I'm not too sure, I htink just typing gdesklets as the command\
[04:17] <Xel-> Hey all!
[04:17] <_jason> Ryan_T:  yes
[04:18] <bob2> seife: you need to ask a question, first...
[04:18] <DAC1138> Amaranth, its the same bug report i submitted wit hoary and warty, which they havent fixed
[04:18] <concept10> DAC1138, you could use a release candidate which is different from the daily build
[04:18] <DavidLeeRoth> Ryan_T, after you download qtparted, dpkg -i the package
[04:18] <Amaranth> DAC1138: Got a #?
[04:18] <_jason> Ryan_T:  if you are shrinking an existing partition you may want to read some of the HowTo's because you have to defrag first
[04:18] <DavidLeeRoth> if it does not come as a deb package, use alien -d
[04:18] <concept10> DAC1138, but stick to what you know
[04:18] <Xel-> I have a quick question:  I've got a Semperon machine - is it 32bit or 64bit?  I've seen it mentioned as both, and I don't want to install the wrong version of Ubuntu
[04:18] <DAC1138> Amaranth, i submitted the bug report, and they totall screwed up support for my graphics chipset
[04:18] <Ryan_T> no, i need to make a partition
[04:18] <Xel-> Semperon 3000+
[04:18] <DavidLeeRoth> xel, its Sempron
[04:18] <Ryan_T> wait, could i use VolumeWorks?
[04:19] <Amaranth> DAC1138: Got a bug number?
[04:19] <Xenguy> Xel-: 32 I would guess
[04:19] <DAC1138> Amaranth, nope
[04:19] <Xel-> Hmm.  Thank you.
[04:19] <_jason> Ryan_T:  gparted will work fine then
[04:19] <Amaranth> DAC1138: Not much I can do to help then.
[04:19] <Amaranth> DAC1138: What email address did you use?
[04:19] <Ryan_T> _Jason: Could i also use VoumeWorks?
[04:19] <DAC1138> Amaranth, im not even going to mess with it anymore. i tweaked and got it working, im happy
[04:19] <Xel-> Last question:  Any popular guide to getting Ubuntu to dual-boot on a machine that already has winxp installed? I found some instructions on the net, but I'd rather go with something that is popular than some random site that I find.
[04:19] <bob2> Xel-: if it's an am64 machine, you can install either the i386 or amd64 ports of ubuntu
[04:20] <_jason> Ryan_T:  no idea... gparted on liveCD was what was recommended to me
[04:20] <bob2> Xel-: amd64 is "faster", but doesn't support non-free binary-only junk as well as i386 does
[04:20] <Amaranth> Xel-: For the most part setting it up with winxp "Just Works"
[04:20] <Amaranth> Xel-: Just make sure WinXP was installed first.
[04:20] <Xel-> Amaranth , right.
[04:20] <Xel-> It is.
[04:20] <bob2> Xel-: ignore those instructions, the installer sets it up automatically in 99% of cases
[04:20] <Ryan_T> _Jason: ok, and it wont delete anything on my hardrive right?
[04:20] <Xel-> Ok awsome.
[04:20] <Xel-> Well now I just need to find something to resize this partition.
[04:20] <Geno__> does Visual Studio .NET work under Linux without a clone?(ex: Wine)
[04:20] <Xel-> And then I'm set.
[04:20] <Xel-> Thank you all
[04:20] <_jason> Ryan_T:  if you are creating a new partition from unpartitioned space then no
[04:20] <bob2> Xel-: the installer aslo lets you resize NTFs partitions
[04:21] <Xel-> Ohh wow, it does?
[04:21] <Hobbsee> Xel-: qtparted
[04:21] <Amaranth> DAC1138: What email address did you use to file the bug? If it's messing up your video completely it at least deserves to get some eyes on it, even if it doesn't get fixed for breezy.
[04:21] <Hobbsee> or the installer
[04:21] <Ryan_T> _Jason: then that creats a problem
[04:21] <pschulz01_> I'm still having problems with getting the required packages for a kernel configure..
[04:21] <_jason> Ryan_T:  what does?
[04:21] <DAC1138> Amaranth, i think it was dac1138@gmail.com
[04:21] <Ryan_T> _Jason: Erasing my harddrive
[04:21] <bob2> pschulz01_: install build-essential, kernel-package and fakeroot
[04:21] <DavidLeeRoth> i was verry impressed with the ubuntu installer being able to resize ntfs
[04:21] <Xel-> Well awsome.
[04:21] <_jason> Ryan_T:  what exactly are you going to do
[04:21] <bimberi> Xel-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[04:22] <e-sin> i wish i'd have known that before getting a copy of partition expert :/
[04:22] <pschulz01_> bob2: Cheers...
[04:22] <Xel-> Thanks
[04:22] <Ryan_T> _Jason: Install Ubuntu without erasing my current harddrive
[04:22] <_jason> Ryan_T:  so you have windows now and want to dualboot?
[04:22] <Ryan_T> _Jason: i have mac osx
[04:22] <DavidLeeRoth> have you tried yellowdog?
[04:23] <bob2> bah
[04:23] <Hobbsee> so you'll have to resize your apple partition, so that you have space for your linux ones
[04:23] <pschulz01_> bob2: I'm having problems with 'make gconfig'..
[04:23] <_jason> Ryan_T:  ok I'm not familiar with mac OSX but I'd assume that currently you have OSX taking up the whole drive right?
[04:23] <bob2> pschulz01_: then don't do that
[04:23] <Hobbsee> Ryan_T: so you'll have to resize your apple partition, so that you have space for your linux ones
[04:23] <bob2> pschulz01_: or install libgtk2.0-dev
[04:23] <Xel-> bimberi: The partition resize is non-destructive, right?  That guide says to back everything up.
[04:23] <DAC1138> thanks, ill try a dist-upgrade then. cya
[04:23] <Ryan_T> _Jason: yes
[04:24] <bob2> Xel-: yes
[04:24] <tony_the_cablegu> Hi
[04:24] <Amaranth> ack, i just found his bug
[04:24] <_jason> Ryan_T:  like Hobbsee you have to resize the mac partition and then create a new partition for linux
[04:24] <bimberi> Xel-: yes it is non-destructive, but it's a good idea to back up anyway
[04:24] <bob2> Xel-: before ever doing something that drastic to a disk, tho, you should have backups
[04:24] <Xel-> Of course
[04:24] <DavidLeeRoth> like an external usb disk
[04:24] <Ryan_T> _Jason: But how do i make a new one?
[04:24] <Xel-> I just wanted to be clear that it was nondestructive
[04:24] <bimberi> Xel-: k :)
[04:24] <Hobbsee> Ryan_T: it will in the install
[04:24] <Diskgrind> can I get help installing the assistive technology package??
[04:25] <_jason> Hobbsee:  can you help Ryan_T with the mac dualboot, I don't know anything about it?
[04:25] <Hobbsee> _jason: i know similarly little - i'm not a mac user
[04:25] <pschulz01_> bob2: have that.. found the problem. I needed 'libglademm2.0-dev'. (Or one of it's dependancies)
[04:25] <Hobbsee> but i'll try and help you, sure
[04:25] <Hobbsee> !qtparted
[04:26] <pschulz01_> bob2: Found it via: "apt-cache search  glade 2.0 | grep dev"
[04:26] <ubotu> Hobbsee: What?
[04:26] <Hobbsee> !gtparted
[04:26] <ubotu> No idea, Hobbsee
[04:26] <Diskgrind> you have to add gtparted in synaptic package manager.
[04:26] <bob2> pschulz01_: erk
[04:26] <cycom> Hobbsee: out of curiosity are you dual booting ubuntu with OSX?
[04:26] <Hobbsee> no, i'm dual booting with windows
[04:27] <Diskgrind> so what do you need help with?
[04:27] <Diskgrind> partitioning?
[04:27] <cycom> Hobbsee: oh, I thought it was on a mac.
[04:27] <cycom> Hobbsee: what kind of machine?
[04:27] <cycom> oh! haha. had it backwards
[04:27] <Hobbsee> mine?  toshiba a10 satellite laptop
[04:27] <kbrooks> gparted rules
[04:28] <Hobbsee> Ryan_T is the one with the mac
[04:28] <cycom> I got that now. :)
[04:28] <Ryan_T> Yes, i have the mac
[04:28] <cycom> Hobbsee: I have a Satellite M45
[04:28] <jdm64> HELP! I installed OpenOffce Base but when i try to make a new database it dies when insterting a table, saying: "The Connection to the data source "testdatabase" could not be established libhsqldb2: file not found"
[04:28] <Diskgrind> hobbsee   what do you need help with?
[04:28] <cycom> Ryan_T: and you want to dual boot on it?
[04:28] <_jason> Ryan_T:  maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55757&highlight=osx+dual will help you
[04:28] <Ryan_T> cycom: ok
[04:29] <Hobbsee> Diskgrind: i was attempting to help Ryan_T with his dual boot
[04:29] <Diskgrind> hobbsee   sorry I was just trying to help aswell..
[04:29] <Hobbsee> :P that's ok Diskgrind
[04:29] <Ryan_T> cycom: this requires erasing my harddrive, thats what im tring to avoid
[04:29] <Diskgrind> can I get help installing the assistive technology package??
[04:30] <Diskgrind> I need the screen reader and the magnifier
[04:30] <cycom> Ryan_T: you can't resize the partitions?
[04:30] <Ryan_T> cycom: I dont even have any set up
[04:31] <Ryan_T> cycom: i need to make one
[04:31] <Ryan_T> cycom: for ubuntu
[04:31] <Kris_k> are there any cool linux games ?
[04:31] <Hobbsee> So we need a mac partitioner
[04:31] <aurax> is there some opensource gui to manage a store
[04:31] <_jason> Kris_k:  Tuxracer!
[04:31] <e-sin> Ryan_T, is there no mac partition manager?
[04:31] <Diskgrind> cycom    your irc'ing from window?
[04:31] <Hobbsee> Kris_k: ubuntuforums.org - there's a gaming subforum that you can drool over :P
[04:31] <TedLemon> I think that NetBSD has a mac partitioner.
[04:32] <jdm64> HELP! I installed OpenOffce Base but when i try to make a new database it dies when inserting a table, saying: "The Connection to the data source "testdatabase" could not be established libhsqldb2: file not found"
[04:32] <Ryan_T> e-sin: there is, but u can only use it when with the mac osx installer durring a clean install
[04:32] <Kris_k> where is this subform
[04:32] <bob2> jdm64: so, go to packages.ubuntu.com and find out what package that file is in
[04:32] <e-sin> hmm
[04:32] <kbrooks> Kris_k: on the ubuntu forums
[04:32] <cycom> Ryan_T: you there?
[04:33] <bob2> Hobbsee: what? the ubuntu installer includes a "mac partitioner", as does ubuntu itself
[04:33] <Ryan_T> cycom: yes
[04:33] <Hobbsee> oh does it?
[04:33] <cycom> parted can shrink HFS and HFS+ partitions, supposedly.  The start has to stay fixed though
[04:33] <Kris_k> yes i dont see a forum about gaming tho
[04:33] <cycom> Diskgrind: what?
[04:33] <bob2> Hobbsee: how else would you install ubuntu?
[04:33] <Hobbsee> Kris_k: it's in the second section
[04:33] <Hobbsee> bob2: good question, i wasnt sure if it did
[04:33] <Diskgrind> cycom   was just trying to help out
[04:34] <_jason> Kris_k:  under "App. support"
[04:34] <Kris_k> second site ?
[04:34] <Diskgrind> since no one would help me.. I thought I would try to help others.......
[04:34] <cycom> Diskgrind: oh :) I don't have any problems, really.
[04:34] <SD_Jimmy> Kris_k, just go with the classic games like nethack :P
[04:35] <Diskgrind> I need the screen reader and the magnifier
[04:35] <_jason> Kris_k:  http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=53
[04:35] <Diskgrind> can I get help installing the assistive technology package??
[04:35] <Kris_k> is there any games that are cool like some of the windows games
[04:35] <bob2> Diskgrind: so install it, jeez
[04:35] <Paradoxx> hmmm, what would b the command to add read/write/execute permissions to a file?
[04:35] <kbrooks> Kris_k: many
[04:35] <Ryan_T> How do i chose a partition to start up on to?
[04:35] <Diskgrind> bob2 ....   how?  it isnt listed in synaptic
[04:35] <bob2> Diskgrind: ?
[04:35] <bob2> Diskgrind: gnopernicus, gnome-mag
[04:36] <cycom> bob2: beat me to it
[04:36] <remyforbes777>  Paradoxx chmod 777 <filename>
[04:36] <kbrooks> Kris_k: i have atomix, gweled and lbreakout2
[04:36] <Diskgrind> bob2 I searched for gnopermicus and nothing..
[04:36] <e-sin> Ryan_T, i think GRUB handles that later in the install
[04:36] <Paradoxx> remyforbes777: would that b for a particulay user, or all users?
[04:36] <remyforbes777> all users
[04:36] <Paradoxx> i want to add it for a particular user
[04:36] <Kris_k> kbrooks that dont run in cedega
[04:36] <Paradoxx> how do i go about doing that?
[04:36] <propagandhi> Kris_k: http://www.tuxwarez.com
[04:36] <remyforbes777> its users, groups, all others
[04:37] <remyforbes777> im sorry
[04:37] <kbrooks> propagandhi: ...
[04:37] <remyforbes777> owner, group, all others
[04:37] <bob2> Diskgrind: well, that's great, but it is in ubuntu
[04:37] <Paradoxx> i wanna add it for my user and group only
[04:37] <bob2> Paradoxx: make them the owner
[04:37] <Ryan_T> e-sin: but i can start up from my main system to ubuntu?
[04:37] <remyforbes777> chown
[04:37] <Diskgrind> bob2 can you help direct me to it pleae?
[04:37] <kbrooks> propagandhi: i question the legality of that link
[04:37] <twysted`> propagandhi> dont post warez sites here :)
[04:37] <Paradoxx> i'm the owner already, but i wanna do it for all the files in a folder
[04:38] <bob2> Diskgrind: how could I guess what you've misconfigured?
[04:38] <bob2> Diskgrind: /msg ubotu repositories
[04:38] <propagandhi> kbrooks: you'd be right in questioning it i'd say
[04:38] <bob2> Paradoxx: so make yourself the owner of all the others, too
[04:38] <Diskgrind> bob2 dont be a smartass if your not going to help   dont speak.
[04:38] <kbrooks> Seveas: are you there?
[04:38] <kbrooks> !ops
[04:38] <ubotu> I guess ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[04:38] <bob2> kbrooks: ?
[04:38] <Amaranth> what's up?
[04:38] <bob2> Diskgrind: then read that and install it?
[04:38] <kbrooks> propagandhi posted a warez link
[04:39] <e-sin> Ryan_T, i'm not running OS X but GRUB should work the same either way.  here, at boot, GRUB shows and asks you to pick ur OS.  Ubuntu is the default choice and boots after 10 seconds if you don't select another OS
[04:39] <Amaranth> propagandhi: Please keep this channel on topic and legal.
[04:39] <Diskgrind> bob2  what ever.
[04:39] <remyforbes777> paradox user chmod -R for recursive
[04:39] <propagandhi> Amaranth: no problem
[04:39] <Ryan_T> e-sin: thancks
[04:39] <bob2> Diskgrind: stop whinging and read it
[04:39] <tritium> kbrooks, what's up?
[04:39] <bob2> Diskgrind: you could have installed it by now
[04:40] <kbrooks> tritium: solved now, nm :)
[04:40] <Diskgrind> well you could be better help and explain it....
[04:40] <bob2> Diskgrind: 12:38:08           bob2 | Diskgrind: /msg ubotu repositories
[04:40] <bob2> Diskgrind: stop complaining and type that into your IRC client
[04:40] <tritium> kbrooks, ok, thanks
[04:40] <kbrooks> diskgrind: please be helpful
[04:41] <twysted`> diskgrind i dont see how bob2 could have been more specific when he typed what to do :)
[04:41] <kbrooks> Diskgrind: help others help you
[04:41] <kbrooks> Amaranth: thanks ;)
[04:41] <TedLemon> Okay, so I have pbuilder set up, but when I try to get it to download the breezy packages, I get a bunch of errors and it bombed out.   The errors all seem to be complaints about apt-get update not working to add new preview CD-ROMs.
[04:42] <Diskgrind> bob2  sorry.   what and how do I type it and where exactly?
[04:42] <bob2> Diskgrind: 12:40:14           bob2 | Diskgrind: 12:38:08           bob2 | Diskgrind: /msg ubotu repositories
[04:42] <bob2> Diskgrind: into your irc client
[04:42] <dmlinux> Hey all, anyone have any idea why RYTHMBOX cant play my MP3s
[04:42] <kbrooks> Diskgrind: into your irc client
[04:42] <bob2> TedLemon: questions like that need to be accompanied by sources.list and full apt output
[04:42] <_jason> !tell dmlinux about restricted
[04:43] <jdm64> bob2: I searched packages.ubuntu.com an the file was in openoffice.org2-base (1.9.129-0.1ubuntu3-0ubuntu1, 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu3) but that's already installed!!!
[04:43] <Diskgrind> repositories
[04:43] <_jason> dmlinux:  read the link ubotu sent you
[04:43] <kbrooks> !tell Diskgrind repositories
[04:43] <dmlinux> _jason, that sucks !! omg
[04:43] <kbrooks> bob2: now your frustration is over
[04:43] <bob2> jdm64: dpkg -L openoffice.org2-base | grep whateverthefilename was
[04:43] <TedLemon> I don't mind providing that, but have no idea how to do so.
[04:43] <bob2> Diskgrind: /msg ubotu repositories
[04:44] <bob2> TedLemon: why are you using pbuilder?
[04:44] <Diskgrind> I dont know what that means.????
[04:44] <Hobbsee> dmlinux: you can still get them, you just have to get them from another site
[04:44] <TedLemon> because you told me to?
[04:44] <_jason> dmlinux:  it's not difficult to install.  It's because of legal issues.  Just read that link
[04:44] <TedLemon> I need to build packages from source so that I can debug and do development work.
[04:44] <kbrooks> Diskgrind: do yuo mean you didnt run it because you didnt know what /msg does?
[04:44] <justeco> WHat flash plugin are people using?  All the ones I try work for crap....
[04:44] <Diskgrind> correct
[04:44] <bob2> you're doing development work but don't know what sources.list is?
[04:44] <bob2> Diskgrind: dude
[04:44] <kbrooks> Diskgrind: why didnt you say so?
[04:45] <TedLemon> I am a programmer, not a debian wizard.
[04:45] <bob2> Diskgrind: please please please do what I literally said
[04:45] <Diskgrind> bob2 Im a noob...
[04:45] <bob2> Diskgrind: I don't care
[04:45] <TedLemon> All my previous packaging experience is on NetBSD pkgsrc.
[04:45] <bob2> Diskgrind: /msg ubotu repositories
[04:45] <cowbud> isn't there a way to do the equiv of fdisk /mbr with linux fdisk?
[04:45] <dmlinux> _jason ok , reading through it now,
[04:45] <bob2> Diskgrind: type that into your IRC client
[04:45] <bob2> cowbud: of course not
[04:45] <bob2> cowbud: that's a boot loader issue, not a partioner one
[04:45] <cowbud> bob2: uhh I think there is if not then how am I supposed ot remove my boot loader?
[04:45] <bob2> cowbud: e.g. grub-install if you're using grub
[04:45] <abk> hello
[04:45] <bob2> cowbud: you need to be more specific about your goal then
[04:45] <abk> is there a support questions waiting line?
[04:46] <cowbud> so if I removed the partition where grub points to how do I remove grub if I am booted to a linux boot disk with grub on it?
[04:46] <bob2> TedLemon: pbuilder is not useful for random development work
[04:46] <erick> good day guys
[04:46] <kbrooks> what is pbuilder, bob2?
[04:46] <bob2> TedLemon: it's only useful for test-building packages
[04:46] <bob2> kbrooks: apt-cache show pbuilder
[04:46] <bob2> abk: just ask your question
[04:46] <Hobbsee> abk: the policy is "ask your question in plenty of detail and you will probably get an answer"
[04:46] <abk> wonderful
[04:46] <bob2> cowbud: you don't remove it.  what are you trying to put in your MBR?
[04:46] <TedLemon> Right, I need to build the package as it's being installed in breezy; otherwise what's the point?
[04:47] <TedLemon> I'm trying to fix a bug in the breezy version of kmail.
[04:47] <cowbud> bob2: linux is gone I want to fix my mbr I can't boot to windows anymore and I only have linux boot disks is it possible or do I need to dig up a xp cd?
[04:47] <jdm64> bob2: It said the file is here /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/libhsqldb2.so but I still can't make a table. Because OOo sais that it can't connect to the data source?
[04:47] <erick> is ubuntus's openoffice possible to upgrade? lets say I want to add additional fonts
[04:47] <bob2> cowbud: so, your question is "how do I restore the windows bootloader to the mbr?"?  that does require a windows cd, yes.
[04:47] <kbrooks> erick: you don't upgrade for that
[04:47] <cowbud> bob2 yah yah how does it feel to be like that?
[04:47] <bob2> jdm64: dunno then, sounds like a bug; I'd report it in bugzilla
[04:48] <bob2> wtf
[04:48] <bob2> TedLemon: you're not using breezy?
[04:48] <Diskgrind> bob2  I am using xchat     where do I typ /msg ubotu repositories?  Im not trying to be difficult.
[04:48] <abk> I have a G4 Cube, two-partition setup, did a pretty much stock Ubuntu install. Set up yaboot, etc. etc. Try and start up ubuntu and the x window server won't start up
[04:48] <kbrooks> erick: you create a fonts directory in your home directory, and place the fonts there
[04:48] <abk> I just get a text login prompt
[04:48] <bob2> Diskgrind: in. your. irc. client.
[04:48] <bob2> !tell Diskgrind about repositories
[04:48] <bimberi> jdm64: could it be that the data source "testdatabase" doesn't exist (guessing)
[04:48] <TedLemon> I am using breezy.
[04:48] <bob2> Diskgrind: just read the window that popped up
[04:48] <bob2> TedLemon: then why not build kmail on your normal system?
[04:49] <kbrooks> bob2: i tried sending it to him (using ubotu), but it gave me a error
[04:49] <Diskgrind> bob2  ok
[04:49] <Villa> hi
[04:49] <erick> kbrooks, any fonts
[04:49] <kbrooks> no kbrooks, I won't. (target invalid?)
[04:49] <TedLemon> It's a long story.
[04:50] <TedLemon> First of all, I need to make sure that I'm hacking on the correct source, so the obvious way to do that is to get the source that you guys are using to build the package.
[04:50] <kbrooks> TedLemon: do you want the latest version of a certain app
[04:50] <ubuntuking> hello all
[04:50] <bob2> TedLemon: apt-get source kmail
[04:50] <bob2> TedLemon: (in your homedir)
[04:51] <TedLemon> Okay, that gets me what was built into the package?
[04:51] <twysted> yes
[04:51] <bob2> TedLemon: that gets yo uthe source the binary packages were built from, yes
[04:52] <TedLemon> Okay, cool.   That's a start.
[04:52] <kbrooks> why isnt pbuilder useful for random dev work? chroot?
[04:52] <jdm64> bimberi: I'm using OOo's build-in database server (or trying to). The file testdatabase.odb does exist. OOo created it when I tryed to make a new database.
[04:52] <Villa> Does anyone know when they plan on bringing Ghostscript-esp up to date?
[04:52] <dmlinux> _jason when i try to instal plugins it says broken packages
[04:52] <Villa> or at least into 8
[04:52] <erick> kbrooks,where can I find the additional fonts?in msoffice if you want additional fonts you will install it, in openoffice just create a fonts dir in your home directory and place there?
[04:53] <bimberi> jdm64: k (i was guessing :) ) - there is #openoffice.org btw, but it could be a bug with the ubuntu build
[04:54] <bob2> kbrooks: you don't need to for just compiling things
[04:54] <dmlinux> WHY is it when i folow ubuntuguide and add repositories they gave me these MIRRORMAX sites that always gives me errors on synaptics
[04:54] <kevogod> !ubuntuguide
[04:54] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[04:54] <bob2> kbrooks: it's useful for building things in a strictly-controlled environment (e.g. testing to make sure it will really build on the ubuntu or debian autobuilders)
[04:54] <jdm64> bimberi: I think it's with ubuntu because it work wonders in Windows!
[04:54] <Rev-Marc> greetings to all, could someone tell me how to disable the touchpad on my laptop?
[04:54] <bimberi> jdm64: heh
[04:55] <kevogod> dmlinux, Don't use Ubuntuguide, it is not affiliated with Ubuntu.
[04:55] <twysted> Rev-marc look at your laptop's documentation? :)
[04:55] <dmlinux> kevogod, what repositores should i use
[04:55] <bob2> Rev-Marc: may or may not be possible at runtime
[04:55] <kevogod> !tell dmlinux about repositories
[04:55] <kbrooks> bob2: ah ok
[04:55] <propagandhi> bob2: if you remove the synaptics entry in the xorg.conf, would that work
[04:55] <Rev-Marc> thanks but when I was trying out Linspite I disabled it in the OS
[04:56] <shadeofgrey> hi everybody -- id like to know how to run the ubuntu equivelant to MS-CHKDSK -- and iwant to use the most extensive options possible... y'know... verifying directory and file structures as well as examining every block and sector for potential problems...
[04:56] <bob2> propagandhi: I dn't think that would work
[04:56] <Rev-Marc> Linspite = Linspire
[04:56] <bob2> shadeofgrey: chkdsk is not that thorough
[04:56] <Jeffrae> Anyone using a (Don't Laugh.. I got it for free, but it prints like a charm) Dell 3000cn?
[04:56] <bob2> shadeofgrey: fsck will examine filesystems, tho
[04:56] <bob2> shadeofgrey: aside from reiserfs, of course
[04:57] <durt> rev-marc, install gsynaptics
[04:57] <dcarpenter> hey guys is anyone familiar with c++ coding and able to answer a simple question for a beginner?.. off topic i know
[04:57] <esac_> i am trying to install linux-restricted-modules, and it wants me to insert the breezy cd (which i dont have anymore). isnt it able to get it from online ?
[04:57] <TedLemon> blech, this is what I was afraid of - when I type "./configure" in the sources for kdepim (which is where kmail comes from), it blows up.   so something's not right about the process I'm following.
[04:57] <bob2> dcarpenter: it's less of-topic if you just ask
[04:57] <bob2> TedLemon: did you install the build dependencies?
[04:57] <Rev-Marc> Thank You I will try that
[04:57] <bob2> TedLemon: sudo apt-get build-dep kmail
[04:57] <kbrooks> TedLemon: blows up -- define?
[04:58] <bimberi> Jeffrae: not i, but i liked the way you asked :)
[04:58] <shadeofgrey> okay... ive tried running fsck before in a root terminal and itgives me errors saying that i need to unmount the disk first, and warns me every time that if i proceed all hell will break loose
[04:58] <dcarpenter> bob2, im trying to define a phrase as another phrase
[04:58] <Jeffrae> hahaha
[04:58] <Jeffrae> Well I knew I would get laughed at
[04:58] <bob2> shadeofgrey: yes, of course
[04:58] <bob2> shadeofgrey: modifying a filesystem underneath the kernel would be terrible, and trying to scan a filesystem that's being modified won't work either
[04:59] <kbrooks> shadeofgrey: it will no matter what
[04:59] <dcarpenter> basically I have 2 inputs and i want the answer of those two subtracted to be a variable
[04:59] <bimberi> Jeffrae: you do need to be a bit more specific about the problem though
[04:59] <Jeffrae> Well
[04:59] <bob2> shadeofgrey: if it's your root filesystem, you need a live cd, or to go to single user mode and remount / read-only
[04:59] <dieman> heh
[04:59] <kbrooks> bob2: what about mounted file systems
[04:59] <Jeffrae> IT prints but it gives me PCL errors and on the window when using with ubuntu
[04:59] <dieman> i fudged the ubuntu mirror @cs.umn.edu
[04:59] <bob2> dcarpenter: int result = var1 - var2;
[04:59] <dieman> its currently resyncing
[04:59] <Jeffrae> I read up and saw that a newer version of GhostScript takes care of this
[04:59] <bob2> dieman: hah
[04:59] <dieman> typoed an rsync to ubuntu as 'ubuntu-releases'
[05:00] <dieman> it happily, from cron, deleted the entire tree
[05:00] <dcarpenter> so result would be my new variable
[05:00] <bob2> Jeffrae: unless it's a very serious bug, it's unlikely to be changed before breezy
[05:00] <bob2> kbrooks: hm?
[05:00] <dieman> and put cd images in their place
[05:00] <kbrooks> and i ***need*** a backup program for linux
[05:00] <jedediah> rsync?
[05:00] <jedediah> >:)
[05:00] <bob2> kbrooks: I use rsync to my desktop
[05:00] <Jeffrae> k
[05:00] <Jeffrae> I have Breezy
[05:00] <bob2> joeyh seems to love duplicity, too
[05:00] <Jeffrae> the prerelease stuff
[05:00] <dcarpenter> in my case it would be 'double x = pointQy - pointQx;
[05:00] <dieman> duplicity is neat
[05:00] <kbrooks> bob2: explain how you use it?
[05:00] <Jeffrae> The GhostScript is still 7
[05:00] <Jeffrae> oh well
[05:00] <bob2> the program, not the betrayal thing
[05:01] <dieman> lots of faculty members at work use unison
[05:01] <bob2> dcarpenter: ok
[05:01] <dcarpenter> th
[05:01] <Jeffrae> Someday :)
[05:01] <dcarpenter> thx
[05:01] <Rev-Marc> Can anyone tell me where to get a good "sources.list" ?as mine seems to have gotten out of wack
[05:01] <Ashen> Error "Read only file sysem" creating new folder <--- *cough* in home directory.
[05:01] <bob2> dieman: I know people who use that to sync Eudora mailspools
[05:01] <Ashen> help! ;P
[05:01] <bob2> Rev-Marc: "out of whack"?
[05:01] <dieman>   eth0:   61.79 Mb/s In    14.64 Mb/s Out -   5652.9 p/s In    3449.0 p/s Out
[05:01] <bob2> Ashen: read "dmesg"'s output
[05:01] <dieman> bob2: creepy
[05:01] <Jeffrae> will evolution connect to an echange server?
[05:01] <TedLemon> oh, I'm being stupid - I just don't have the right dev libs installed.
[05:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell Rev-Marc about repositories
[05:01] <dieman> 60mbps from heanet.it should help get this back in order
[05:02] <jedediah> Jeffrae, With an exchange connector, yes
[05:02] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:02] <tritium> Jeffrae, if outlook-web-access is enabled on that exchange server
[05:02] <bob2> dieman: they trust a random bizarro reimplementation of rsync in a functional language, but not imap
[05:02] <eythian> kbrooks, the usual way to do such things in UNIX-like systems is to build yourself a custom one out of the tools provided. As such, there are really just a lot of handy tools that do one thing, like rsync and tar.
[05:02] <Rev-Marc> it was working 2 nights ago but now I get errors or something
[05:02] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: some sample sources.lists in that mst from ubotu :)
[05:02] <bob2> TedLemon: the command I gave will install them
[05:02] <dieman> bob2: haha
[05:02] <dieman> bob2: yeah
[05:02] <Jeffrae> exchange connector is not open source I beleive
[05:02] <Jeffrae> right?
[05:02] <bob2> Jeffrae: it is
[05:02] <Jeffrae> really?
[05:02] <dieman> bob2: i just know unison breaks protocol every minor revision
[05:02] <Ashen> bob2: ah... kewll "[4350915.804000]  EXT3-fs error (device hda2): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode block - inode=1553549, block=3112968
[05:02] <Ashen> " looks like my hdd is aboot to esplode.
[05:02] <Jeffrae> at on time it was not I thought
[05:03] <josh43> Does anyone have wxvlc 0.8.2 compiled for a64?
[05:03] <bob2> Ashen: could be overheating or loose/dusty cables, too
[05:03] <dmlinux> _jason i updated my repos and i cant install totem-xine
[05:03] <bob2> dieman: hah, awesome
[05:03] <dieman> http://www.hea.net/ <-- whowa! nifty photo.
[05:03] <Ashen> bob2: overheating maybe... what about power problems?
[05:03] <_jason|sleep> dmlinux:  you can't find the package?
[05:03] <dieman> s/photo/diagram/
[05:03] <bob2> Ashen: could be
[05:03] <dieman> bob2: yeah, the heanet servers are nice.
[05:04] <bob2> that javascript scares me
[05:04] <dmlinux> _jason it says broken packages
[05:04] <Jeffrae> I already have "Client Access for ibm i5 OS /iseries"  with an exchange client I could use Ubuntu at work!!
[05:04] <winner> does anyone know
[05:04] <Ashen> bob2: can I just remount / instead of resetting?
[05:04] <winner> how i can change mouse cursors
[05:04] <dieman> crazy, heanet only has like 3x the students we do for their network
[05:04] <Rev-Marc> I know scripture but I don't know "mst"
[05:04] <dieman> but i guess merit is way cooler too
[05:04] <bob2> winner: system -> preferences -> mouse, or whatever
[05:04] <dieman> and they have a pile of more students
[05:04] <_jason|sleep> dmlinux:  which ones are broken?
[05:04] <TedLemon> bob2:handy, thanks!
[05:04] <winner> bob2: thanks. do you know any nice cursor sets?
[05:04] <bob2> dieman: merit has mroe hot nanog love
[05:04] <bob2> winner: I like the default
[05:05] <dmlinux> SORRY FOR PASTING
[05:05] <dmlinux> _jason The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:05] <dmlinux>   totem-xine: Depends: dbus-1 (>= 0.23.4) but it is not going to be installed
[05:05] <dmlinux>               Depends: libhal0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[05:05] <dmlinux>               Depends: libnautilus-burn1 but it is not going to be installed
[05:05] <winner> bob2: the reason why i want to change is because for some reason, my "move window" cursor appears as a block of white pixels, sometimes a mutilated image, etc.
[05:05] <bob2> dmlinux: seriously, dude
[05:05] <propagandhi> Jeffrae: doesnt evolution have the ability to connect to exchange now
[05:05] <dmlinux> can i get that pasting url
[05:05] <_jason> !paste
[05:05] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:05] <jedediah> dmlinux, its in the topic
[05:05] <bob2> winner: that sounds like something worth fixing instead of working around
[05:05] <kevogod> propagandhi, Yes, but I can tell you it is not that good.
[05:05] <bob2> dmlinux: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[05:05] <dmlinux> i have no titel :)
[05:05] <bryan___> Hey this may be a newb question, but i've been having a lot of problems finding a solution on forums and google... but i've been having a lot of problems getting my wg511t working on my presario r3000
[05:06] <Jeffrae> hmm
[05:06] <winner> bob2: well, how would i fix it? :)
[05:06] <Jeffrae> I thought so
[05:06] <jedediah> dmlinux, type '/topic'
[05:06] <Jeffrae> I should look again
[05:06] <jedediah> :)
[05:06] <bob2> winner: sounds like a bug in X, assuming you didn't overwrite the files yourself
[05:06] <jedediah> dmlinux, just giving you a hard time ;)
[05:06] <kevogod> Jeffrae, Although, your experience with Exchange and Evolution may be different from mine.
[05:06] <winner> bob2: to be honest, this has appeared ever since i first installed ubuntu.
[05:07] <bryan___> I've got the bus to work usin the setpci command... lspci sees my card but it doesn't show up in iwconfig
[05:07] <bob2> winner: definitely worth filing a bug about then
[05:07] <Jeffrae> Jeffrae
[05:07] <Rev-Marc> I know scripture but I don't know "mst"
[05:07] <Jeffrae> wanted to see something
[05:07] <dmlinux> jebediah i know, people need to calm down  though :P
[05:07] <bob2> bryan___: lspci will see anything physically connected to the PCI bus
[05:07] <dmlinux> jebediah its not like tons of people paste all day
[05:07] <bryan___> I've tried auditor and i've got it working there... anyone?
[05:07] <bob2> bryan___: what does dmesg say?
[05:07] <jvai> how i do evolution @ work.. is thru POP, & i use the the host IP addy, same for the printr, it works every time,
[05:07] <kbrooks> How do I mail root?
[05:07] <bryan___> um i'm pretty new at this
[05:07] <Jeffrae> I know this is sounding dumb, but I think X-Chat higlights lines that are adressed to me!
[05:07] <kbrooks> msg | mail root ?
[05:07] <winner> bob2: how would i go into doing so?
[05:07] <kbrooks> Jeffrae: by design
[05:07] <bob2> winner: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[05:07] <VIal> hola
[05:08] <josh43> Jeffrae: It highlights them based on having your nick in the line
[05:08] <bryan___> dmesg would give me like the hal_ath0
[05:08] <bryan___> stuff right?
[05:08] <bob2> kbrooks: echo blah | mail -ssubject 3oot@localhost
[05:08] <bryan___> i don't get a hal 13
[05:08] <Jeffrae> yeah
[05:08] <VIal> nesesito ayuya en ubuntu
[05:08] <Jeffrae> That is what I thought
[05:08] <bob2> bryan___: it would tell you what is actually going on with your card, yes
[05:08] <Jeffrae> that kicks botie!
[05:08] <Jeffrae> bootie!
[05:08] <josh43> one of the many things I like about xchat :)
[05:08] <bryan___> let me run that real quick
[05:08] <winner> bob2: thanks, good looking out.
[05:08] <bryan___> ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.
[05:08] <bryan___> ath_hal: 0.9.12.14 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212)
[05:09] <propagandhi> Opera 8.5 has an excellent IRC client now too but i dont think gnome users can use opera 8.5 well
[05:09] <durt> opera is fine with gnome
[05:09] <_jason> dmlinux:  are you using breezy or hoary?
[05:09] <Jeffrae> Chatzilla better then X-Chat?
[05:09] <bryan___> It would give me hal 13 or something if there was a driver problem right?
[05:09] <dmlinux> _jason breezy
[05:09] <Jeffrae> or is it a matter of opinion?
[05:09] <Jeffrae> hehe
[05:09] <winner> one more thing, bob2, do you happen to know how to change irssi's notification (you know, when someone says your name in channel) from bold to like red or something?
[05:09] <anethema> dohh! zsnes wont compile now under breezy! god damnit
[05:09] <_jason> dmlinux:  ok you added repos for hoary
[05:09] <josh43> bryan___: Hal 2000, not 13 ;)
[05:09] <tritium> anethema, language please
[05:09] <anethema> and apt has an old version that no one else uses
[05:09] <anethema> sorry tritium
[05:09] <dmlinux> _jason .. are there equivilents for breezy hehe...
[05:10] <_jason> dmlinux:  the wiki sites are still setup for hoary
[05:10] <nalioth> language please
[05:10] <anethema> oh wait i didnt swear
[05:10] <bob2> winner: /hilight -color whatever nickname
[05:10] <bob2> anethema: does Debian have the newer version?
[05:10] <_jason> dmlinux:  first get rid of the hoary stuff you put in there
[05:10] <winner> bob2: ah damn. whats "whatever nickname"
[05:10] <dieman> http://www.hea.net/mrtg/geant.html <-- hah, its nice to make notches in peoples network graphs
[05:10] <TedLemon> bob2: for some reason when I ask apt-get to do that, it insists that it wants to deinstall skype.
[05:10] <anethema> uhhh no idea..how do i check
[05:10] <bryan___> ok well i figured it was some number... I wasn't very close hah... but should it work from what dmesg says?
[05:10] <mylastmorning> can someone help me get a windows game working?
[05:10] <bob2> winner: whatever = whatever color, nickname = your nickname...
[05:10] <dieman> if only i had GigE on that machine
[05:10] <bob2> mylastmorning: #cedega, probably
[05:11] <dieman> and faster hard drives
[05:11] <dmlinux> _jason done
[05:11] <bob2> bryan___: it's easier if you show us more lines in #flood
[05:11] <bryan___> ok
[05:11] <bob2> dieman: if your bottleneck is lack of gige and scsi-320, you're doing pretty well
[05:11] <mylastmorning> bob2, can you help me?
[05:11] <dieman> bob2: yeah
[05:12] <_jason> dmlinux:  ok I was able to isntall totem-xine without adding any extra stuff so go ahead and try to install totem-xine package through synaptic... first run: sudo apt-get update
[05:12] <dieman> bob2: ive got gigE switchports
[05:12] <bob2> mylastmorning: if you're using cedega, #cedega
[05:12] <winner> bob2: thanks
[05:12] <dieman> bob2: just need to get a card sometime
[05:12] <mylastmorning> what is cedega?
[05:12] <winner> someone say my name please
[05:12] <anethema> the thing is, hoary built it fine
[05:12] <dmlinux> _jason doing that now
[05:12] <mylastmorning> what is cedega? bob2?
[05:12] <anethema> is it the new gcc messing stuff up ?
[05:12] <josh43> dieman: they are only about $0 now
[05:12] <anethema> any idea bob2 ?
[05:12] <dmlinux> _jason says broken packages
[05:12] <josh43> dieman: $40
[05:12] <bob2> mylastmorning: what are you trying to run?
[05:12] <dieman> josh43: yeah, i guess.
[05:12] <mylastmorning> Ragnarok Online bob2.
[05:12] <bob2> anethema: more likely the code in zsnes is broken
[05:12] <dieman> i should get work to buy one
[05:13] <bob2> mylastmorning: appdb.codeweavers.com
[05:13] <dieman> since tis a work box, etc ;)
[05:13] <dmlinux> _jason http://rafb.net/paste/results/BwDE6u17.html
[05:13] <winner> mylastmorning: you're trying to run RO off Linux?
[05:13] <mylastmorning> yes winner.
[05:13] <josh43> dieman: you just need to justify it to the boss, then ;) "I could get work 3% faster with a gigE"
[05:13] <dieman> josh43: heh
[05:13] <bob2> dieman: does work know about the debian mirror?
[05:13] <dieman> i've got gige on my desktop already
[05:14] <dieman> bob2: hah, yes.
[05:14] <Rev-Marc> someone a few minutes ago recomended installing "gsynaptics" but I can not find it to install any help is greatly appreciated
[05:14] <dieman> bob2: thats debian owned hw, no less
[05:14] <dieman> bob2: sitting right in the middle of a rack
[05:14] <bob2> dieman: oh, rock
[05:14] <dieman> bob2: we also have a sourceforge mirrror on campus
[05:14] <httpdss> dmlinux: what dows your sources list say ??
[05:14] <bob2> dieman: oh, wait, half of ftp.d.o?
[05:14] <dieman> we're going to setup a general mirroring service soon
[05:14] <dieman> dieman@runabout:~$ host ftp.debian.org
[05:14] <dieman> ftp.debian.org has address 128.101.80.133
[05:14] <durt> rev-marc: http://sourceforge.jp/projects/gsynaptics/files/
[05:15] <dieman> dieman@runabout:~$ host security.debian.org
[05:15] <dieman> security.debian.org has address 82.94.249.158
[05:15] <dieman> security.debian.org has address 194.109.137.218
[05:15] <dieman> security.debian.org has address 128.101.80.133
[05:15] <dieman> bob2: and a third of security now
[05:15] <bob2> hm, I thought ftp.d.o was round-robin'd
[05:15] <dmlinux> _jason http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ki2PdF89.html
[05:15] <dieman> bob2: it was
[05:15] <mylastmorning> bob2, how do I do this?
[05:15] <_jason> dmlinux:  that is strange.  I do not have any of those packages isntalled yet I have totem-xine
[05:15] <winner> mylastmorning: any reasons why?
[05:15] <bob2> mylastmorning: did you read that website or not?
[05:15] <dieman> bob2: until they had to move it to HP from above.net
[05:15] <dieman> bob2: or something
[05:15] <dieman> bob2: im not part of d-a, or anything
[05:15] <dmlinux> dm@dmlinux:~$ sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-misc gstreamer0.8-plugins
[05:16] <bob2> dieman: oh, right
[05:16] <N17R0> Hi can I remove gcc-3.3 and gcc-3.4 when I have already gcc-4.0 installed ? Or would this give problems when compiling new apps?
[05:16] <_jason> dmlinux:  is that your current sources.list?
[05:16] <dmlinux> _jason yes
[05:16] <dieman> bob2: saens is doing only like 80mbps right now
[05:16] <tritium> dieman, which campus?
[05:16] <dieman> bob2: sometimes its doing 150ish, like this morning
[05:16] <_jason> dmlinux:  it still has hoary repos in there
[05:16] <dmlinux> _ im trying to get MP3 playback :(
[05:16] <Rev-Marc> Thank You DURT
[05:16] <dieman> tritium: university of minnesota, twin cities
[05:16] <dieman> tritium: why?
[05:16] <dieman> tritium: you in the area?
[05:16] <dmlinux> _jason  i know but thats what ive been using
[05:16] <tritium> dieman, just curious.  No, not at all ;)
[05:17] <dieman> tritium: ahh, ok :)
[05:17] <_jason> I don't think you should be using hoary repos with breezy
[05:17] <bob2> dmlinux: what does that have to do with totem?
[05:17] <dieman> really the only thing holding up the 'general' mirror service is time
[05:17] <httpdss> dmlinux .. you are using mixed versions ..
[05:17] <dieman> we've got hw now
[05:17] <dieman> and disk
[05:17] <dieman> just need to set it up
[05:17] <bob2> dmlinux: and mixing hoary and breezy is silly and pointless, get rid of them
[05:17] <dmlinux> God gamn you ubuntu guide !
[05:17] <mylastmorning> winner, because I want to play it.... do you know how to run it?
[05:17] <anethema> ok even with the packaged zsnes right now
[05:17] <mylastmorning> bob2, yes I did. they're asking me to pay.
[05:17] <tritium> dmlinux, language please
[05:17] <anethema> i am getting this error: Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[05:18] <anethema> any idea why anyone ?
[05:18] <_jason> dmlinux:  I can send you my sources.list if you'd like and you can back that one up
[05:18] <N17R0> Hi can I remove gcc-3.3 and gcc-3.4 when I have already gcc-4.0 installed ? Or would this give problems when compiling new apps?
[05:18] <bob2> mylastmorning: no
[05:18] <dmlinux> _jason please !
[05:18] <dieman> bob2: i did test xfers from the debian mirror to another machine on campus
[05:18] <bettong_BOFH> bob2 why is the room blocked to tor users?
[05:18] <dieman> bob2: got it up to 780mbps+
[05:18] <bob2> mylastmorning: read it again and find out if your game will run on wine or not
[05:18] <dieman> i need to find someone off campus to beat the crap out of it
[05:18] <dieman> sometime
[05:18] <dieman> to see whats the bottleneck
[05:18] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: due to massive abuse and the fact I can see little point for using tor to come here
[05:18] <mylastmorning> it says that they haven't tested it.
[05:18] <httpdss> dmlinux: just change where it say hoary to breezy ..
[05:18] <mylastmorning> it says that they haven't tested it. bob2
[05:18] <winner> mylastmorning: not sure if its possible or not. i've seen a .exe made for linux somewhere in the eathena forums before.
[05:18] <bettong_BOFH> oh ok
[05:18] <bob2> dieman: holy bajeesus
[05:19] <winner> mylastmorning: never got around to running it though.
[05:19] <bob2> anethema: sounds like the game is broken
[05:19] <anethema> doh
[05:19] <anethema> worked fine before breezy
[05:19] <bob2> N17R0: yes, you can remove them if you don't need them
[05:19] <httpdss> dmlinux: the ubuntu wiki can help
[05:19] <dieman> bob2: i was surprised the desktop box could handle all those packets coming in
[05:19] <N17R0> ok ty
[05:19] <bettong_BOFH> i just found out about it lol and was surprised that something to block someones privacy was banned
[05:19] <bettong_BOFH> lol
[05:19] <dieman> bob2: i *was* telling it to send em to /dev/null though ;)
[05:19] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: it's not about "block someones privacy"
[05:19] <nalioth> bettong_BOFH: dont start anything
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> dieman, funny how Linux can do real multitasking huh?
[05:19] <_jason> dmlinux:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2836
[05:19] <bob2> dieman: hah, I was gonna ask how fat your disks were
[05:20] <bob2> dmlinux: you don't seem to be asking very specific questions
[05:20] <bettong_BOFH> ok cool
[05:20] <mylastmorning> winner, where is the linux.exe?
[05:21] <dmlinux> bob2 thats because im doing 50 things at once :)
[05:21] <dmlinux> bob2, love the linux, so much faster than XP
[05:21] <winner> okay. damn. anyone know why bold fonts aren't working on xterm? i'm using 'Andale Mono' as the font, sized 10.
[05:22] <bob2> winner: everything hilighted here is bold
[05:22] <bob2> ie xterm appears to have bold issues
[05:22] <N17R0> I just upgraded to Breezy, I must say its verry nice, but u knew that already. But is it true that Breezy have a new wallpaper? Or is my wallpaper screwed up or something?
[05:22] <winner> bob2: yeah, thats why i was trying to turn bold types into color
[05:22] <dmlinux> _jason that worked thanks man !
[05:22] <_jason> dmlinux:  no problem
[05:23] <dmlinux> _jason i lost that wiki site with the instructions for installing mp3playback
[05:23] <josh43> N17RO: Breezy has new wallpaper, but your user settings would override if you set one already.. just go into the chooser and choose the new one
[05:23] <_jason> !tell dmlinux about restricted
[05:23] <anethema> ok bob2 i found the problem
[05:23] <anethema> before in hoary
[05:23] <_jason> dmlinux just remember that that site is for hoary
[05:24] <anethema> when somehting couldnt get sound, it would just not play any sound
[05:24] <dmlinux> _jason thanks alot for your help man
[05:24] <anethema> but now, it segfault's
[05:24] <_jason> dmlinux:  anytime... good night
[05:24] <bob2> yay SDL
[05:24] <anethema> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[05:24] <anethema> Segmentation fault
[05:24] <N17R0> ohh ok josh43 thx, but the old hoary wallpaper somewhere on the net? Cos I liked that one also
[05:24] <josh43> lol, why have I never used tab completion of irc names... sometimes I find things and say Doh
[05:24] <bob2> heh
[05:25] <josh43> N17R0, I bet it is.. infact, I dont think it would have deleted it
[05:25] <bob2> think of all the wasted keypresses over the years
[05:25] <lakin> nm-applet freezes just as it asks for the encryption key.  The dialog never even gets fully displayed it just displays a blank dialog with window bar, and the applet icon freezes.  I'm running Breezy which was just upgraded to latest today.  It's never worked since I started using breezy a few weeks ago, any ideas?
[05:25] <josh43> bob2, Exactly
[05:25] <maxkelley> hmm
[05:25] <bob2> tho, I knew about tab-completion, and it just means I spend more keypresses on other things
[05:25] <bob2> lakin: does setting a key manually work?
[05:26] <N17R0> josh43 well it looks like breezy upgrade killed the old wallpapers, cos I dont have it anymore
[05:26] <josh43> bob2, That's always the case.. once you optimize; something else 'rises to meet the challenge'
[05:26] <josh43> N17R0, Look on art.gnome.org , or ubuntu.com
[05:26] <dmlinux> WOOT my totem works now !!!!
[05:26] <N17R0> ok thx
[05:26] <DavidLeeRoth> hey you guys
[05:26] <kbrooks> hey, just a question
[05:27] <kbrooks> how can i make windows hidden? ;)
[05:27] <Hoodman> I need help finding programs for ubuntu, and how to install them?
[05:27] <lakin> bob2, I haven't tried using it with it's connection manager.  I was just hoping for it to autodetect local networks(works) and then let me use them(doesn't work).  I would try to manually setup a network, but the only one I have local access to uses WPA and the preferences dialog didn't have an option for that last I checked.
[05:27] <DavidLeeRoth> rm -r -f bloatware
[05:27] <josh43> kbrooks, In what way?
[05:27] <Jeffrae> I know this is a long shot, but can a windows printer driver work with linux.. I am like 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% no, but I have seen wierder things.....
[05:27] <Jeffrae> weirder
[05:27] <josh43> Jeffrae, You would have to do some fun acrobatics
[05:28] <durt> jeffrae, use a linux driver
[05:28] <tristanmike> Jeffrae, keyboard stuck?
[05:28] <kbrooks> josh43: and btw, if u got the impression i have windows i dont
[05:28] <Jeffrae> no
[05:28] <bimberi> ubotu gell Hoodman about synaptic
[05:28] <ubotu> bimberi: What?
[05:28] <DavidLeeRoth> jeffrae, can you find the source to the driver (dumb question i know).
[05:28] <Jeffrae> not stuk :)
[05:28] <bimberi> ubotu tell Hoodman about synaptic
[05:28] <bimberi> D'Oh
[05:28] <Jeffrae> nope I could not
[05:28] <Jeffrae> and I can't find a linux driver
[05:28] <kbrooks> josh43: in the ... well
[05:28] <bob2> lakin: "connection manager"? I meant, "does it work if yo uset the key up manually with iwconfig/wpa_supplicant?"
[05:28] <Jeffrae> PCL is almost great, but not good enough hehehe
[05:28] <josh43> kbrooks, lol, be more specific.. I assume you are saying you want to hide windows that are on the screen so that noone else can see them, and that you do not have MS windows
[05:28] <lakin> bob2, yes
[05:29] <kbrooks> essentially i want to make windows transparent
[05:29] <durt> jeffrae, often a driver for a certain printer will work with other models
[05:29] <bob2> kbrooks: install transset
[05:29] <Jeffrae> I know
[05:29] <Jeffrae> but I couldn't find a good match for mine
[05:29] <lakin> bob2, Re: connection manager, I err meant that I hadn't tried using nm-applet through manually setting up the network.
[05:29] <josh43> kbrooks, Ahh, transparent is another thing altogether.. apps can do it themselves, but I don't know how to make it if they never meant it to be transparent (xchat backgrounds do it, for example
[05:29] <durt> whats yours jeffrae?
[05:29] <josh43> )
[05:30] <DavidLeeRoth> Jeffrae, i recommend taking what ever youneed to print in linux and turning it into a pdf file and printing off windows
[05:30] <Jeffrae> Don't laugh.. I got it for free but it prints like a charm...  Dell 3000cb
[05:30] <winner> bob2: hilight only hilights the chan window number. im looking for something that would hilight the text in the channel, since bold isn't working.
[05:30] <lakin> josh43: there a few new extensions that allow you to do that.  Search google for xorg translucency
[05:30] <Jeffrae> 3000cn
[05:30] <Jeffrae> That is what I am doing now David :)
[05:30] <bob2> winner: it hilights the text, too
[05:30] <DavidLeeRoth> Jeffrae call me Diamond Dave ;)
[05:30] <bob2> winner: the text you just said in here is red, for instance
[05:31] <josh43> lakin; I doubt they would work for me, tho kbrooks might enjoy that (debian hates my mobo/cpu/graphic card combo)
[05:31] <anethema> is there a way to make programs NOT segfault when they cant steal audio? dosbox is doing it too
[05:31] <bimberi> lol Jeffrae
[05:31] <anethema> nothing used to do this before breezy, euain!
[05:31] <Jeffrae> Diamond Dave.. That is a good resturant in Milwaukee, WI
[05:31] <Jeffrae> hahaah
[05:31] <DavidLeeRoth> heh
[05:31] <winner> bob2: you see my hilights?
[05:31] <DavidLeeRoth> i hate my printer, its a lexmark x5150 and there is no hope for a driver on linux ;(
[05:32] <DavidLeeRoth> thats why every time i have to print something i have to reboot
[05:32] <DavidLeeRoth> thats the only reason i even have windows
[05:32] <Jeffrae> David Lee Roth is cool though... Sammy Hagar ruined Van Halen!
[05:32] <Jeffrae> That is my opinion
[05:32] <DavidLeeRoth> Everyone knows that dude!
[05:32] <DavidLeeRoth> Van Hagar sucked.
[05:32] <anethema> oh well so much for multiplayer zsnesing haha
[05:32] <Jeffrae> Do you run windows in a virtual machine?
[05:32] <Amaranth> *cough*
[05:32] <durt> Joe Dirt is the best movie ever
[05:32] <anethema> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[05:32] <anethema> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[05:33] <anethema> doh
[05:33] <Amaranth> anethema: doesn't zsnes have a linux version?
[05:33] <anethema> yes
[05:33] <DavidLeeRoth> no jeffrae.  i run linux in a vm on my windows machinwe
[05:33] <anethema> im trying to run it
[05:33] <bob2> winner: you're hilighted on my screen, and I'm only using /hilight
[05:33] <anethema> thats the error
[05:33] <Jeffrae> Many people think I am nuts for thinking Roth Kicks Hagars ass
[05:33] <DavidLeeRoth> but i have linux natively installed on another machine
[05:33] <st1lgar> durt: no :)
[05:33] <winner> bob2: i don't see hilight. damn. maybe its an xterm problem.
[05:33] <DavidLeeRoth> i am building a pc right now that will run ubuntu full time
[05:33] <winner> bob2: does the words "bob2" in the front of this line come up as bold?
[05:33] <winner> er, word*
[05:33] <Jeffrae> DavidLeeRoth: Why did you choose to do it that way
[05:34] <Jeffrae> Is there a Way in X-Chat to like click on the name so it comments this line to them?
[05:34] <Jeffrae> Like a shortcut?
[05:34] <Jeffrae> besides copy and paste?
[05:34] <josh43> 10 pts to the person that can tell me in what log file I would find the very first error messages when the system boots: they flash by too quickly
[05:34] <bob2> winner: ? your hilights are not visible to anyone but you.  I have set my client up such that whole lines mentioning my nick are red, tho, including your nick
[05:35] <winner> bob2: ah, yes. what is the line that you used to do that?
[05:35] <durt> jeffrae, i suggest you try to find out what printer model the dell one is based on and use the corresponding driver
[05:35] <anethema> im just wondering why apps are all the sudden segfaulting when they cant get audio
[05:35] <josh43> Jeffrae, Try typing the first 2 letters of thier name and press TAB
[05:35] <Xenguy> josh43: dmesg
[05:36] <winner> bob2: i had that functionality when i was using the gnome terminal, but i guess xterm just doesn't bold. the gnome terminal used to hilight the line and bold my name whenever someone mentions it.
[05:36] <gefbals> good day to all!
[05:36] <DavidLeeRoth> hey
[05:36] <bob2> winner: that's a xterm bug if it works in g-t
[05:36] <Jeffrae> josh43, Awsome!!!
[05:36] <DavidLeeRoth> Jeffrae you found your driver?
[05:36] <josh43> Xenguy, +10 :)
[05:36] <Jeffrae> no
[05:36] <DavidLeeRoth> o:(
[05:36] <e-sin> in the console, how do you work a file with spaces?  like to copy it for example.
[05:36] <DavidLeeRoth> drag and drp the file e-sin
[05:37] <josh43> Jeffrae, I know - I just found that 10min ago by accident. lol
[05:37] <bob2> e-sin: cp "I have spaces" bar
[05:37] <DavidLeeRoth> or put quotations around the file
[05:37] <Jeffrae> I do know wha this dell is under the sheets
[05:37] <e-sin> thanx bob2
[05:37] <Jeffrae> But I can't find those drivers either
[05:37] <Xenguy> josh43: yw
[05:37] <Jeffrae> it is a Xerox
[05:37] <maxmouse> would anyone happen to know why unreal tournament 2004 works fine on my radeon, yet wolfenstein enemy territory doesnt start up ?
[05:37] <DavidLeeRoth> Like "X CHAT is cool.deb"
[05:37] <winner> bob2: yeah its an xterm issue.
[05:38] <DavidLeeRoth> e-sin that works with windows as well if you are interested :)
[05:38] <winner> bob2: what xterm alt would you recommend?
[05:38] <gefbals> can anyone help me how to update my ubuntu version 5.04 to 5.10 using only the cd installation without reformatting my pc
[05:38] <Jeffrae> The Dell 3000cn is a Fuji Xerox Docuprint C525A
[05:38] <regeya> or
[05:38] <dieman> Jeffrae: wtf?
[05:38] <bob2> winner: I'd recommend filing a bug so xterm can be fixed
[05:38] <lakin> And how the hell to I get rid of nm-applet.  I even kill -9'ed it and it still happily restarts itself.
[05:38] <durt> jeffrae: http://www.mit.edu/~jik/3000cn/, note the line about useing the hp laserjet 5500 driver
[05:38] <bob2> I'm using xterm but are increasinly annoyed with it
[05:38] <bob2> gefbals: insert CD. follow instructions. wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[05:38] <Jeffrae> durt, I looked there
[05:39] <Jeffrae> durt, I also emailed him.. He told me I need to upgrade my Ghostscript to use his patches
[05:39] <winner> bob2: where? ubuntu bugzilla?
[05:39] <nalioth> lakin: rename it
[05:39] <bob2> winner: yes
[05:40] <Jeffrae> dieman, wtf?  What?? Dude What Up??
[05:40] <winner> okay, i'll do that
[05:40] <dieman> Jeffrae: about dell with that printer
[05:40] <dieman> Jeffrae: crazy
[05:40] <Jeffrae> oh
[05:40] <dieman> Jeffrae: they used to use lexmark
[05:40] <dieman> which were crap
[05:40] <Jeffrae> dieman, I know...  These ones are Fuji Xerox....
[05:40] <lakin> nalioth: good call, I have no idea why I didn't think of that.  Last time I just uninstalled it. :)  But I'm filing some bugs.
[05:40] <dieman> Jeffrae: are all of them now?
[05:40] <DavidLeeRoth> I have a lexmark.  it requires a 40 meg driver on windows, so pretty much all hope of a driver on linux is gone :(
[05:40] <Jeffrae> dieman, Not all Lexmarks are crap.. I use Lexmarks with my IBM iSeries!!!
[05:41] <DavidLeeRoth> lexmark x5150 is pretty good for my needs
[05:41] <Jeffrae> dieman, I am not sure dude..  I think the Ink Jets are Lexmarks still
[05:41] <TylerDurden> hey can someone help me? i cant get xserver (or xorg) to work after boot
[05:41] <DavidLeeRoth> its an ink hog though
[05:41] <TylerDurden> libglcore..blahblah no symbols (says that a lot of times)
[05:41] <TylerDurden> No matching device section (busid pci:2:10:0) found
[05:41] <KRomeleoN> are there amy ubuntu sys requirements?
[05:41] <justeco> I'm under the impression epson is fairly easy to support.
[05:41] <durt> jeffrae: so, have you done all the patching and stuff?
[05:41] <Jeffrae> durt, no
[05:41] <DavidLeeRoth> tyler, does it say anything about locales?
[05:41] <gefbals> can anyone help me how to update my ubuntu version 5.04 to 5.10 using only the cd installation without reformatting my pc
[05:42] <TylerDurden> uhh im not sure, im in windows right now
[05:42] <Jeffrae> durt, He told me to upgrade my GS before patching
[05:42] <TylerDurden> i dont think it can find my radeon
[05:42] <KRomeleoN> i just received a dual p3 600mhz and was wondering how ubuntu would run on it
[05:42] <gefbals> can anyone help me how to update my ubuntu version 5.04 to 5.10 using only the cd installation without reformatting my pc or an internet update?
[05:42] <DavidLeeRoth> RTFM when it comes to breezy upgrads
[05:42] <Jeffrae> durt, he said that his patches were done to fedora and that fedora has a newer release of GS
[05:42] <josh43> gefbals, You had this answered.. dont paste questions that you dont want to solve
[05:43] <durt> jeffrae, well then upgrade ghostscript
[05:43] <Jeffrae> I tried
[05:43] <DavidLeeRoth> tyler, you might want to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:43] <TylerDurden> i did that
[05:43] <Jeffrae> durt, I couldn't get it to work with my printing again
[05:43] <DavidLeeRoth> did you pick a generic driver?
[05:43] <TylerDurden> it seems to always try to default it to my onboard, which is disabled
[05:43] <gefbals> DavidLeeRoth : what's an RTFM when it comes to breezy upgrade?
[05:43] <TylerDurden> no i picked ati, i think the busid might be incorrect
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> hey, do the fglrx drivers work with Radeon Mobility 7500?
[05:44] <DavidLeeRoth> tyler, in most cases, leaving the busid blank works
[05:44] <josh43> gefbals, "Read The F@cking Manual"
[05:44] <KRomeleoN> i wwas wondering if a live cd would gfive a god idea of how the system will run when actually installed?
[05:45] <TylerDurden> ok thanks david ill go try that
[05:45] <josh43> KRomeleoN, Mostly, yes.. getting to the same state as a livecd can be a bit of an adventure, but you get about 90% when you install to the HD
[05:45] <DavidLeeRoth> What radeon do you have btw?  I was thinking of buying a 9600xt sapphire
[05:45] <DavidLeeRoth> are they any good?
[05:45] <TylerDurden> me? i have a 9200
[05:45] <DavidLeeRoth> i have always had radeon integrated gfx on my laptops.
[05:45] <DavidLeeRoth> are you satisfied with it?
[05:45] <TylerDurden> i guess, its not top of the line of course
[05:46] <TylerDurden> i have a celeron 2.5 768 ram and it works fairly well
[05:46] <DavidLeeRoth> i mean its only 100 bucks and it has 256 mb memory and pretty good specs for 100 bucks
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> DavidLeeRoth, this is a laptop... ATI stinks for most part...
[05:46] <TylerDurden> well mine has 128
[05:46] <TylerDurden> and its pci
[05:46] <DavidLeeRoth> mine will be AGP
[05:46] <KRomeleoN> should i not even bother installing on a dual p3 600mhz?
[05:46] <KRomeleoN> orwill it be gay?
[05:47] <DavidLeeRoth> Kromeloen, how much memory do you have?"
[05:47] <pi> does anybody know how i can revert to old gtk theme settings after installing gtk2-engines-gtk-qt?
[05:47] <KRomeleoN> i think its 256
[05:47] <KRomeleoN> its anm old server
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> KRomeleoN, that should work well
[05:47] <DavidLeeRoth> well, i am running ubuntu full time on an old celery 1ghz with 128 meg, and its pretty good
[05:47] <DavidLeeRoth> if you arelooking for speed i would look at gentoo
[05:47] <ubuntu> divx
[05:47] <durt> or slackware
[05:48] <josh43> KRomeleoN, well worth the livecd at least.. you may not like the defaults, but linux ran 110% on my 800mhz w/96MB of ram :)
[05:49] <josh43> Is it advisable to recompile my kernel in breezy if I need to?
[05:49] <auk> is usign apt-get dist-upgrade safe now?
[05:50] <josh43> auk: there are still fairly major daily upgrades.. I'd wait the week :)
[05:50] <aurax> is there linux based inventory app ?
[05:50] <malv> anyone else get weird alsactl errors on boot?
[05:50] <auk> josh43: :(
[05:50] <DavidLeeRoth> auk, why dont you just apt-get update dist-upgrade?
[05:50] <josh43> auk, Hey, I know.. I just formatted to run breezy.. I was impatient
[05:51] <DavidLeeRoth> you can always update/upgrade packages daily
[05:51] <auk> DavidLeeRoth: that's what i was saying.
[05:51] <ibthomson> anyone having problems with apt-get connecting to the repositories? apt-get update won't connect to anything in my sources.list
[05:51] <mylastmorning> does anyone know the root password of ubuntu?
[05:51] <auk> mylastmorning: you know it
[05:51] <josh43> !root
[05:51] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:51] <Amaranth> !root
[05:52] <nalioth> mylastmorning: /msg ubotu root
[05:52] <josh43> why isn't that a bot trigger? ;)
[05:52] <auk> mylastmorning: it is the password you entered on install
[05:52] <MadpilotPPC> josh43, it is... ubotu responded to you, too...
[05:52] <durt> auk: no it isnt
[05:52] <auk> durt: ?
[05:52] <nalioth> the bot is dead
[05:52] <nalioth> !test
[05:52] <ubotu> Crashed.
[05:52] <nalioth> yup
[05:52] <dangaio> Ok, I need help.  I have installed ubuntu on a laptop dual booting to windows.  how do I mount the windows partition so I can play my mp3s?
[05:52] <KRomeleoN> im getting a nero error with the .iso for x64 ubvuntu. it says the block size does not corrsespind  to image lengtg
[05:53] <josh43> MadpilotPPC, Or would have, eh? ;)
[05:53] <kbrooks> !test
[05:53] <durt> auk: there is no root password after the install, that is your user password
[05:53] <MadpilotPPC> !tell dangaio about mountwindows
[05:53] <auk> durt: w/ sudo...
[05:53] <josh43> MadpilotPPC, Bot=dead
[05:53] <auk> i know it's not actually the root account
[05:53] <MadpilotPPC> josh43, no he ain't, actually
[05:53] <MadpilotPPC> !tell josh43 about ubotu
[05:53] <dangaio> MadpilotPPC mountwindows?
[05:54] <auk> danagio: ...
[05:54] <josh43> MadpilotPPC, I havn't seen anything from it
[05:54] <MadpilotPPC> !+windowsdrives
[05:54] <ubotu> it has been said that windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[05:54] <auk> !mountntfs
[05:54] <ubotu> auk: What?
[05:54] <durt> the user password goes with sudo
[05:54] <auk> !mountwindows
[05:54] <ubotu> auk: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:54] <dieman> christ
[05:54] <auk> !mount windows
[05:54] <ubotu> Wish i knew, auk
[05:54] <dieman> my laser printer is so old
[05:54] <auk> dang it
[05:54] <dieman> it doesn't have much of a 'sleep mode'
[05:54] <dieman> im finding that it might be worth it to just get a $80-90 laser printer
[05:54] <josh43> MadpilotPPC, Colour me wrong :)
[05:54] <budreefer> help i need help to get my usb support working in ubuntu
[05:55] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[05:55] <maxmouse> would anyone happen to know why unreal tournament 2004 works fine on my radeon, yet wolfenstein enemy territory doesnt start up ?
[05:55] <josh43> dangaio, here's the ubuntu way: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions?highlight=%28mount%29
[05:55] <Amaranth> hmm, too long to show in the channel
[05:55] <Amaranth> auk: /msg ubotu ntfs
[05:55] <auk> Amaranth: talk to danagio
[05:55] <Amaranth> dangaio: /msg ubotu ntfs
[05:56] <ibthomson> anyone having problems with apt-get connecting to the repositories? apt-get update won't connect to anything in my sources.list
[05:56] <auk> Amaranth, see MadPilot's message
[05:56] <bob2> ibthomson: surely you'd need to show it to us?
[05:56] <budreefer> anyone have any suggestions? it doesn't load on startup
 if you arelooking for speed i would look at gentoo <---it would run better on a dual p3 600mhz ?>
[05:58] <ibthomson> bob2, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2837 is my sources.list
[05:58] <KRomeleoN> than ubuntu?
[05:58] <Amaranth> budreefer: I can't find your question in my backlog, can you repeat it?
[05:58] <Amaranth> KRomeleoN: If you custom tune it and compile everything from source.
[05:58] <budreefer> i have no usb support in my ubuntu
[05:58] <budreefer> i want to get it into the startup
[05:58] <Amaranth> KRomeleoN: See you in a month when GNOME finishes compiling.
[05:58] <bob2> budreefer: don't be silly
[05:58] <budreefer> heh
[05:59] <KRomeleoN> hah
[05:59] <budreefer> ok lets start from the beginning then
[05:59] <budreefer> i must be doing something wrong
[05:59] <budreefer> i have a 7 os boot system
[05:59] <Amaranth> KRomeleoN: If you figure out how to make it all work, it's more of a distro for people who know what they are doing, or at least think they know.
[05:59] <budreefer> and ubuntu is #7 now
[05:59] <budreefer> so mebbe i didnt config the lilo correct
[05:59] <Amaranth> lilo? *shudder*
[05:59] <hondje> and not such a good desktop distro
[05:59] <budreefer> u prefer grub? or somethin else?
[06:00] <bob2> "you"
[06:00] <Amaranth> grub, yeah
[06:02] <budreefer> allrighty well anyways i have a /boot partition should i copy the ubuntu kernel file in there?
[06:02] <budreefer> or can i load it from the /dev/hda8
[06:03] <dreamwave> i've got a gtk app called aria (a download manager installed).  for some reason, it is using the default GTK theme.  how do i get it to use the same theme as the reset of gnome?
[06:03] <thompa> hey
[06:03] <tom__> Howdy
[06:04] <dreamwave> ho
[06:04] <budreefer> dunno sumthin is weird....ubuntu install just told me to use a root=/dev/hda8 in the boot param and kernel as /vmlinuz
[06:04] <budreefer> the root param is fine but the loader doesnt like /vmlinuz as kernel
[06:04] <dmlinux> Is there an apt-get for Limewire
[06:04] <thompa> just used ubuntu with a remote server. works real nice
[06:04] <bob2> dreamwave: are you running it as root?
[06:05] <thompa> not anymore
[06:05] <bob2> budreefer: you'd need to pick the real kernel image name
[06:05] <dreamwave> bob2, no
[06:05] <dmlinux> Is there an apt-get for Limewire
[06:05] <budreefer> yeah thats wat i thought bob....should i copy it to the /boot tho?
[06:05] <tritium> dmlinux, please don't repeat
[06:06] <gigaclon> dmlinux, search synaptic
[06:06] <bob2> budreefer: this plan seems broken
[06:06] <KRomeleoN> do the live cds also contain the installation?
[06:06] <thompa> funny my notebook buts with edukde now, or something like that
[06:06] <gigaclon> KRomeleoN, no
[06:06] <bob2> budreefer: just point lilo at the right image file
[06:06] <thompa> boots
[06:06] <thompa> logo only
[06:06] <gigaclon> KRomeleoN, only the DVD contains both Live and Installation Images
[06:06] <dreamwave> bob2, i've only been running ubuntu for a few days (5.10) so it's still pretty much a vanilla install.
[06:07] <josh43> Ok, what is the best multi-threaded newsgroup reader for linux?
[06:07] <nalioth> josh43: dunno best, but pan works good
[06:07] <KRomeleoN> ou don't have permission to access /5.10/ubuntu-5.10-rc-dvd-amd64.iso on this server.
[06:07] <thompa> in kde is one
[06:07] <KRomeleoN> i cant find the live dvds
[06:08] <gigaclon> you should just get the live CD
[06:08] <josh43> KRomeleoN, Give it 7 days, or go with the cd offer
[06:08] <thrice`> ok, figured out the fglrx issue :)
[06:09] <josh43> thrice`, What issue? what fixed it? do you have hardware 3d now?
[06:09] <thompa> josh43: kmail
[06:09] <noe1> hi!
[06:09] <gigaclon> hii
[06:10] <noe1> im looking for MHZ
[06:10] <josh43> thompa, That looks like a standard "read newsgroups for the conversations" type client
[06:10] <TedLemon> thompa, you're having problems with kmail?
[06:10] <nalioth> josh43: you after a binary friendly reader? try pan
[06:10] <josh43> thompa, I'm looking for a "download like a madman" type client :)
[06:10] <nalioth> josh43: then use pan
[06:11] <thompa> knode
[06:11] <josh43> nalioth, Yeah, I am going to definately try it, tho I think I did before and it was a little old and crusty
[06:11] <gigaclon> noe1, MHZ
[06:11] <noe1> mauricio?
[06:11] <nalioth> josh43: i use it every day (movies, music, etc) and it works well
[06:12] <thrice`> is breezy supposed to include a gui for editing init scripts ?
[06:12] <josh43> nalioth: Does it work with yenc and all that new 'stuff'?
[06:12] <dmlinux> gigaclon, its not in synaptic
[06:12] <nalioth> josh43: yup
[06:12] <josh43> nalioth, Ok, cool.. I'm just setting it up now
[06:13] <thompa> apt-get install knode
[06:13] <melvztechie> hello guys
[06:14] <melvztechie> good day to ubuntu users
[06:14] <JayPee_> just wanted to say switched from suse 9.3 to Ubuntu and I must say I like gnome and Ubuntu
[06:14] <thompa> integration with kde is slick
[06:14] <dmlinux> hey melv
[06:14] <noe1> where are the edubuntu people?
[06:14] <thompa> konqueror is in the menu
[06:14] <Hendric> any suggestion for a lightweight Internet Browser???
[06:14] <josh43> JayPee_, You will like ubuntu more and more as you go.. did you put in 5.04 or 5.10?
[06:14] <budreefer> yay i fixed it bob thanks!
[06:14] <josh43> Hendric, Lynx
[06:14] <thompa> i got edubuntu
[06:14] <JayPee_> i installed breezy 5.10
[06:15] <JayPee_> it feels a lot more stable and faster than kde suse
[06:15] <JayPee_> i love it
[06:15] <josh43> JayPee_, Good choice :)
[06:15] <Hendric> josh43, lol, with GUI
[06:15] <noe1> i need to talk with someone of the edubuntu team :(
[06:15] <josh43> Hendric, There is something like... glynx (lynx with graphics)
[06:15] <kbrooks> noe1: ask here
[06:15] <budreefer> allright next item on the list
[06:15] <Amaranth> noe1: #edubuntu?
[06:15] <thompa> noel: Im using it for fractions lessons
[06:15] <MadpilotPPC> Hendric, some people report Opera as being slightly lighter than FF
[06:15] <durt> whoa lynx with graphics?
[06:16] <FR500> noe1: what for?
[06:16] <budreefer> does Ubuntu have a built in PPPoE dialer?
[06:16] <noe1> about the design of the CD
[06:16] <nalioth> Hendric: links2 has graphic capability
[06:16] <JayPee_> i love the support as well
[06:16] <bob2> budreefer: sure
[06:16] <melvztechie> hello guys, just wanna ask if there are safe files to remove in Breezy, I got  full already with my Harddrive
[06:16] <JayPee_> A+
[06:16] <noe1> of the latin american release
[06:16] <JayPee_> see you later ubuntu people
[06:16] <josh43> durt, I saw it in synaptic :)
[06:16] <Hendric> opera?? how about konqueror?? is it lighter than FF?
[06:17] <Amaranth> noe1: iirc there is an edubuntu-devel mailing list
[06:17] <budreefer> bob: i went looking for it on the livecd and couldn't find...where can i get to it?
[06:17] <bob2> melvztechie: sudo apt-get clean
[06:17] <JayPee_> bye josh43
[06:17] <bob2> budreefer: doubt it's on the livecd
[06:17] <thompa> noel: just put a sticker on it
[06:17] <noe1> hahaha
[06:17] <noe1> lol
[06:17] <bob2> budreefer: sudo pppoeconf ; sudo pon
[06:17] <budreefer> bob: but what i am staring at now is same as whats on livecd :)
[06:17] <noe1> im on the wrong place
[06:17] <MadpilotPPC> Hendric, no idea, haven't used konq myself
[06:18] <thompa> konqueror is working real good, but im suspect
[06:18] <Deekin> How do I restart an XOrg session throush shell please?
[06:18] <nalioth> konqueror is lighter than ff
[06:18] <thompa> no its bigger
[06:18] <bob2> budreefer: ok
[06:18] <Hendric> i need a lightweight browser with java, flash, graphics capabilities.. like FF
[06:18] <bob2> Deekin: define restart
[06:18] <thompa> it integrates better with other programs in kde
[06:18] <durt> are the mirrormax repos not working or something?
[06:19] <kbrooks> now i need to decide on what to do with those two created partitions...
[06:19] <Deekin> bob2: thank you, helpful as always :)
[06:19] <kbrooks> on my spare hd
[06:19] <durt> hendric: opera if you want all that
[06:19] <kbrooks> ideas
[06:19] <kbrooks> ?
[06:19] <Deekin> oh, i thought that was the command lol
[06:19] <bob2> Deekin: ?
[06:19] <Hendric> FF is so hungry... better try opera
[06:19] <bob2> Deekin: it depends on what your goal is
[06:19] <Hendric> how about an office suite?? Openoffice is hungry as hell...
[06:19] <Deekin> bob2: I'm dl'ing KDE now - I wanna log out of gnome and into KDE
[06:19] <kbrooks> Hendric: abiword
[06:20] <durt> hendric: gnome office
[06:20] <kbrooks> it isnt bloated
[06:20] <Phily> Hendric: Office suite use VI
[06:20] <thompa> try opera..
[06:20] <bob2> Deekin: then log out and back in again
[06:20] <budreefer> bob: appreciate the help man working great :) tanks
[06:20] <budreefer> l8ters all
[06:20] <thompa> they will send you a free license
[06:20] <kbrooks> phily: not a office suite
[06:20] <Deekin> bob2: duh, for some reason i didnt think that option was present - pardon me
[06:20] <Hendric> can those open an MS word document??
[06:20] <twysted> durt, the mirrormax repos are not offically ubuntu supported so we dont know :)
[06:20] <kbrooks> thompa: look at opera.com right now
[06:20] <thompa> i had bad font problems in opera though
[06:20] <Phily> kbrooks: with latext it is
[06:21] <twysted> brb
[06:21] <kbrooks> phily: i mean vi
[06:21] <Phily> kbrooks: just no wusiwyg
[06:21] <tritium> Phily, latext?  You're talking about LaTeX?
[06:21] <MadpilotPPC> thompa, there have been a bunch of font improvements in Opera w/ the 8.50 release. it's much prettier now!
[06:21] <thompa> the browser dude!
[06:21] <thompa> lol
[06:21] <kbrooks> thompa: go to opera.com please
[06:22] <durt> use qtconfig to tweak operas appearance
[06:22] <thrice`> still qt
[06:22] <kbrooks> thrice`: yes
[06:22] <Phily> I like opera but can't get rid off all my FF extentions
[06:22] <kbrooks> lol
[06:22] <dcarpenter> hi guys are any of u fluent in c++?
[06:22] <kbrooks> dont blame u
[06:23] <thompa> some kind of hidden adds probably
[06:23] <thompa> tracking?
[06:23] <melvztechie> bob2: hello sir, kinda new but what does the command will do? apt-get clean?
[06:23] <testuser> hello....
[06:23] <tritium> hello
[06:23] <durt> alot of those firefox extensions are attempts to mimic opera
[06:23] <Phily> durt: lol
[06:23] <thompa> it works better in windows
[06:24] <MadpilotPPC> durt, true, but you'll offend the FF fanbase pointing that out! ;)
[06:24] <thompa> but have not tried opera in ubuntu yet
[06:24] <thrice`> durt, minus streaming video
[06:24] <Phily> durt: u mean that opera has all hte functionality of the 1000+ availaibel extentions for FF?
[06:24] <wickedpuppy> dcarpenter, just ask ?
[06:24] <wickedpuppy> or ask in #c++
[06:24] <durt> thrice`: what do you mean?
[06:24] <thompa> there are a couple of issues I have with firefox
[06:24] <bob2> melvztechie: man apt-get
[06:25] <thrice`> durt, i've been unsuccessful with it
[06:25] <bob2> melvztechie: hint: it deletes cached installed packages
[06:25] <thompa> lost bookmarks
[06:25] <durt> thrice`: have you install mozplugger?
[06:25] <thrice`> durt, that's effective with opera ?
[06:25] <Phily> melvztechie: clean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. It removes everything but the lock file from /var/cache/apt/archives/ and /var/cache/apt/archive/partial/. When APT is used as a dselect(8) method, clean is run automatically. Those who do not use dselect will likely want to run apt-get clean from time to time to free up disk space
[06:25] <melvztechie> bob2: thanks for the help sir:)
[06:25] <thompa> install real player and firefox
[06:26] <ibuntu> or epiphany
[06:26] <durt> thrice`: yes
[06:27] <thompa> konqueror is pretty slim
[06:28] <breakthestate> any command to find out the chipset for a USB webcam?  someone donated to me and i have no manuals
[06:29] <bob2> nope
[06:29] <wickedpuppy> whats the brand and model ? its probably on the manufacturer site
[06:29] <bob2> lsusb will help, tho
[06:29] <MadpilotPPC> breakthestate, www.google.com
[06:29] <twysted> breakthestate, what brand webcam is it? or is it just generic
[06:30] <thompa> i dont like the gloss in any of these desktops or web sites. things shoud be teatering on the edge
[06:30] <breakthestate> twysted: looks like a quickcam express from the website
[06:30] <breakthestate> logitech
[06:30] <MadpilotPPC> thompa, what do you mean?
[06:30] <breakthestate> but i've read about so many different chipsets
[06:31] <breakthestate> and a version is not printed
[06:31] <breakthestate> madpilot: what's google?
[06:31] <thompa> hey anybody know what is good for backup of home files and some configuration one.
[06:31] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone tell me where java is installed to?
[06:31] <thompa> do locate
[06:31] <Concord_Dawn> I did.
[06:32] <melvztechie> Phily: thanks also sir
[06:32] <thompa> and?
[06:32] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: depends how you installed it
[06:32] <melvztechie> Concord_Dawn: I think its not installed by default
[06:32] <melvztechie> Concord_Dawn: Need to download at sun.com website;)
[06:33] <Concord_Dawn> erm
[06:33] <Concord_Dawn> it is installed.
[06:33] <Concord_Dawn> I installed it
[06:33] <thompa> use synaptic
[06:33] <Concord_Dawn> I just need to figure out where it is, and it's not in the repos thopma
[06:33] <Concord_Dawn> thompa*
[06:33] <twysted> breakthestate, that one should work quite easily in linux just use google to find out how to set it up :)
[06:33] <Concord_Dawn> !javadebs
[06:33] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: Are you on ritalin?
[06:33] <Concord_Dawn> !javadeb
[06:33] <ubotu> [javadeb]  for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[06:33] <Concord_Dawn> now
[06:34] <Concord_Dawn> please can you tell me where java gets installed?
[06:34] <nalioth> Concord_Dawn: open a terminal and type "which java"
[06:34] <thompa> go to system synaptic. open it and search for java.
[06:34] <twysted> concord_Dawn go to the url ubot provided
[06:34] <breakthestate> twysted: yeah and it even looks like most of the modules are already on my system
[06:34] <Concord_Dawn> twysted, it's installed, I want to find it on my system.
[06:34] <breakthestate> but no matter which ones i modprobe
[06:34] <twysted> thompa he doesnt have universal enabled so stop repeating
[06:34] <Concord_Dawn> thompa, java isn't in the repositories.
[06:34] <breakthestate> i never can get a /dev/video* to appear
[06:35] <twysted> concord_dawn, type 'sudo updatedb"
[06:35] <twysted> concord_dawn, then try to 'locate' it
[06:35] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[06:35] <nalioth> twysted: "which java" will locate it
[06:35] <twysted> if it doesnt appear its not installed then :)
[06:36] <Concord_Dawn> it is installed
[06:36] <Concord_Dawn> java -version replies.
[06:36] <Concord_Dawn> trust me, it's there.
[06:37] <Concord_Dawn> BAH
[06:37] <Concord_Dawn> the results scroll up way too fast.
[06:37] <twysted> ehehe
[06:37] <Concord_Dawn> anyway to stop that?
[06:37] <nalioth> Concord_Dawn: which java
[06:37] <Concord_Dawn> I'm logged in via SSH btw.
[06:37] <nalioth> Concord_Dawn: locate java | more
[06:37] <Concord_Dawn> nalioth, the one in !javadeb
[06:37] <durt> ok just ignore nalioth
[06:38] <twysted> durt, already done ;)
[06:38] <nalioth> Concord_Dawn: in your terminal type "which java"  "which" is a command
[06:38] <twysted> breakthestate did you get that url for the quick cam?
[06:38] <Concord_Dawn> I did
[06:38] <Concord_Dawn> I found it, I think
[06:38] <Concord_Dawn> installed in a funny location
[06:38] <Concord_Dawn> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun
[06:38] <maxmouse> anyone know if there is a msn client that supports webcam?
[06:38] <tom__> exit
[06:39] <twysted> looks like the right directory to me :)
[06:39] <twysted> maxmouse, theres a plugin for gaim but its still experimental
[06:39] <maxmouse> twysted, thanks
[06:39] <twysted> maxmouse, though its been said you can wine msn7
[06:39] <maxmouse> oh thats cool
[06:39] <maxmouse> ill try that too
[06:39] <thompa> anyone know how to do easy /home backup?
[06:39] <Concord_Dawn> yes
[06:40] <Concord_Dawn> cp -R /home/* <destination>
[06:40] <thompa> i need to see if cd burner works
[06:40] <breakthestate> twysted: but yeah, i just found the exact name and it is listed as not supported
[06:41] <lightstar> tar cfz <filename>.tar.gz /home
[06:41] <twysted> ah
[06:41] <twysted> that sucks
[06:41] <lui> helloooo
[06:41] <thompa> what about to ipod?
[06:42] <grigora> hi, can someone tell me what I have to have installed to be able to play DVDs? I am being told that I need libdvdcss, but when I try to install it, I get an error that it's been obsoleted. any ideas? TIA!
[06:42] <twysted> thompa that will work as long as ubuntu can see it and you can browse it :)
[06:42] <breakthestate> twysted: thx i'll keep at it
[06:42] <Concord_Dawn> <3 SSH
[06:42] <thrice`> !restrictedformats
[06:42] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[06:42] <breakthestate> possibly trying out this thing called google
[06:42] <thompa> it does not work when you switch to another windows computer
[06:42] <Concord_Dawn> the most ereet way to run an appendageless server.
[06:43] <thompa> mines blank anyway. all the songs deleted
[06:43] <anethema> hey is there a way for apt to force the install of a file even if deps dont clear?
[06:44] <twysted> thompa well as long as you can browse it in ubuntu you should be able to to a home dir backup to it using one of the commands that lightstar or COncord gave to you
[06:44] <VoX> err
[06:44] <anethema> synaptic is saying this: skype:
[06:44] <anethema>  Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable
[06:44] <VoX> anethema: why would you want to force-install if the deps dont clear?
[06:44] <anethema> but i know my ver is better
[06:44] <twysted> anethema are you using breezy or hoary?
[06:44] <thompa> Concord_Dawn: are there any config files I might need?
[06:44] <strat> anyone have problems installing realplayer??when i try to insatall...it says something about   ./    not a valid cpmmand ..some thing like that...i followed instructions at reals site but cant get it to install..
[06:44] <anethema> breezy
[06:44] <Concord_Dawn> twysted, use [tab]  please.
[06:44] <Concord_Dawn> thompa, -R gets everything.
[06:44] <anethema> but ive got 3.3.3.3-7
[06:45] <twysted> concord_dawn, i dont have auto complete on mirc ;)
[06:45] <anethema> and im pretty damn sure it will run
[06:45] <Concord_Dawn> O_O
[06:45] <Concord_Dawn> twysted, why not? autocomplete is ereet!
[06:45] <durt> what are you installing anathem?
[06:45] <anethema> just wondering if there is a way to make apt ignore the dependancies during a install
[06:45] <lightstar> thompa : if u backup the entire home directory, every user conf is backed up..which is wat i suppose ur looking 4
[06:45] <grigora> folks, does anyone know where I can get libdvdcss? thanks
[06:45] <Concord_Dawn> anethema, -f switch.
[06:45] <thompa> just want bookmarks and some emails.
[06:45] <Concord_Dawn> !libdvdcss
[06:45] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:45] <Concord_Dawn> !libdvd
[06:45] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: Are you smoking crack?
[06:45] <twysted> anethema it might not be supported in breezy yet so youd have better luck trying it with hoary
[06:46] <twysted> !dvd
[06:46] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[06:46] <twysted> !hoary-extras
[06:46] <ubotu> from memory, hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[06:46] <thompa> hey you cant write that word
[06:47] <twysted> grigora there ya go
[06:47] <grigora> twysted: thanks, I am trying now
[06:48] <anethema> its not 'supported' in anything
[06:48] <twysted> welcome :)
[06:48] <anethema> third part commercial app
[06:48] <arty> hey here's a question: I have a quite old laptop running debian 3.1, and i'm thinking of switching to ubuntu, mainly because it's easier to find info about specific ubuntu questions than debian imo ... does anybody have some experience they can relate from the perspective of a recent debian user?
[06:48] <tritium> arty, if you're used to debian, it should be painless
[06:48] <twysted> arty, hello i can help you if needed
[06:48] <arty> tritium: i was hoping
[06:49] <dmlinux> hey guys, what program will let me open RARs
[06:49] <nalioth> tritium: if you're used to debian, it should be bliss
[06:49] <Concord_Dawn> dmlinux, rar
[06:49] <twysted> dmlinux, 'unrar'
[06:49] <nalioth> dmlinux: unrar-nonfree
[06:49] <arty> anything strange about the configs in /etc that are different from the debian ones?
[06:49] <arty> that stand out?
[06:49] <Concord_Dawn> sudo apt-get rar unrar
[06:49] <anethema> Concord_Dawn, -f is fix
[06:49] <dmlinux> is it in synaptic
[06:49] <anethema> not force
[06:49] <Concord_Dawn> anethema, there is a force switch.
[06:49] <breakthestate> $!&*! hardware
[06:49] <anethema> no idea how to force an install if the deps dont work
[06:49] <nalioth> unrar-nonfree opens more types of rars
[06:49] <twysted> arty, its pretty simular sicne ubunu is debian based
[06:49] <arty> ok
[06:49] <arty> thanks
[06:49] <dmlinux> twysted, can i apt get it?
[06:49] <twysted> dmlinux, use unrar-nonfree
[06:49] <twysted> dmlinux you should be able to
[06:50] <anethema> guh
[06:50] <anethema> cant get it to install
[06:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell anethema about sources
[06:50] <twysted> anethema only thing i can suggest is going back to hoary
[06:51] <dmlinux> twysted, do you know the exact code? sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[06:51] <twysted> dmlinux that should work
[06:51] <nalioth> dmlinux: thats it
[06:52] <grigora> twysted: with libdvdcss2 installed, I still cannot get the DVD to play
[06:52] <trace> Has anyone got Anjunta running correctly on breezy?
[06:52] <josh43> what repository should unrar-nonfree be in?
[06:52] <twysted> grigora what media player
[06:52] <nalioth> !info unrar-nonfree
[06:52] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[06:52] <grigora> twysted: totem
[06:52] <josh43> nalioth, Thanks
[06:52] <anethema> the exact same prob existed on hoary
[06:52] <lightstar> trace : i have..but i upgraded my hoary to breezy..n it works fine
[06:53] <anethema> nalioth, this doesnt help me
[06:53] <dmlinux> i cant view .ICO is there a prog out there to view
[06:53] <breakthestate> well since, i'm not registered, i'm going to apologize for being a prick to madpilot in public, i was just so frustrated and had googled my brain off already.  i truly am sorry and i know you help lots of people here...inlcluding myself.
[06:53] <twysted> grigora check your prefs to make sure it it pointing to your dvd rom (/mnt/cdrom?)
[06:53] <grigora> twysted: the error message from totem mentions libdvdcss, and when I try to install that instead of libdvdcss(2) I get an error as well
[06:54] <mylastmorning> hey
[06:54] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to get Rangarok Online running?
[06:54] <grigora> twysted: totem shows the correct device
[06:54] <trace> lightstar: Did you get complaints about "configure:error: Package requirements (libnomeui-2.0 gtk+-2.0) were not met?
[06:54] <grigora> twysted: I am going to try using mplayer instead
[06:55] <twysted> grigora that might be a better idea :)
[06:55] <thompa> lightstar: thanks
[06:55] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to get Rangarok Online working?
[06:55] <dmlinux> Does anyone know a viewer that can view .ICO files
[06:55] <twysted> mylastmorning we saw your question the first time so please wait :)
[06:55] <Concord_Dawn> dmlinux, GIMP should be able to.
[06:55] <mylastmorning> sorry twysted, I'm just kinda fed up with it...
[06:56] <lightstar> trace : nope i didnt...all seemed to work jsut fine
[06:56] <lightstar> thompa : no problem;)
[06:56] <mylastmorning> hello lightstar ^_^
[06:56] <trace> lightstar: happens everytime I try to build
[06:56] <anethema> aparently apt-get doesnt have a force dependancies switch
[06:56] <anethema> dpkg does though
[06:56] <lightstar> mylastmorning : heya:D
[06:56] <bob2> anethema: of course
[06:56] <Concord_Dawn> anethema, then download the deb only.
[06:56] <twysted> mylastmorning> is it linux supported at all natively?
[06:56] <anethema> yeah
[06:56] <Concord_Dawn> and use dpkg -if
[06:56] <bob2> anethema: the point of apt-get is to go from one consistent state to another
[06:57] <anethema> yes but, it is saying i need some version of something
[06:57] <anethema> and im pretty sure my version is newer
[06:57] <bob2> fix the broken .deb
[06:57] <mylastmorning> no twysted, and when I try to use wine, it just steals ram and doesn't run the installer.
[06:57] <lightstar> trace : strange..hmmm
[06:57] <bob2> anethema: not according to dpkg --compare-versions
[06:57] <anethema> is 3.3.3.3.2 newer than 3.3.3.3-7 ?
[06:57] <lightstar> trace : did u upgrade from prev ubuntu or u did a fresh install?
[06:57] <twysted> mylastmorning> you will need to consult support from wine's man pages or channel/forum/ect
[06:57] <trace> lightstar: fresh install
[06:57] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone help me with Tomcat?
[06:57] <bob2> anethema: are you sure those are the two versions?
[06:57] <bob2> anethema: and I assume this is skype?
[06:58] <anethema> yes skype
[06:58] <lightstar> trace : odd..then there should not be any problems..hang on lemme check on my side
[06:58] <mylastmorning> twysted, I'm not sure if I want to use wine... I hear theirs more programs that are even better.
[06:58] <anethema> and yes ive got 3.3.3.3-7 and it wants 3.3.3.3.2
[06:58] <bob2> anethema: skype is broken, get the static tarball instead
[06:58] <anethema> of some libMT
[06:58] <bob2> anethema: the latter is newer tha nthe former, yes
[06:58] <twysted> mylastmorning> yea cedega might work alot better but it does cost money
[06:58] <trace> lightstar: It strats up...but I just cannot build.
[06:58] <bob2> anethema: 1.1.1.1 > 1.1.1-anything
[06:58] <anethema> ohh okay, so i dont have a newer version
[06:59] <mylastmorning> bummer. do they except paypal twysted?
[06:59] <anethema> i just discovered the aoss function of alsa though
[06:59] <anethema> makes skype a normal alsa app, i love it
[06:59] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone help me with Tomcat?
[06:59] <twysted> mylastmorning> i think they accept paypal check out http://www.transgaming.com/ they make cedga/winex
[06:59] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: way easier if you just ask your question
[06:59] <bob2> way way way way way way easier
[06:59] <Concord_Dawn> bob2, well it's not, since I don't really know what's wrong.
[07:00] <Concord_Dawn> I just know, something is.
[07:00] <anethema> twysted, they dont accept paypal, but do accept credit cards
[07:00] <twysted> Concord_Dawn, try the Apache channel documentation then :)
[07:00] <twysted> anethema ah oh well
[07:00] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: and not giving us log snippets, config files or explaining what's wrong makes it impoessible for anyon to help you
[07:00] <anethema> heh anyone else just get another 5mb of updates for breezy? :D
[07:01] <anethema> any day now it will all be golden :D
[07:01] <Concord_Dawn> bob2, well, I've found that asking if anyone can help with a specific subject saves me a lot of time and bandwidth
[07:01] <vol0za> hello, I'm just a newbie who wants to get involved in the Ubuntu community. I have some coding/Linux experience. Can anybody help me to start?
[07:01] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: and annoys potential helpers
[07:01] <twysted> *sigh*
[07:01] <anethema> Concord_Dawn, in ANY help channel you just ask..dont ask if you can ask
[07:01] <anethema> its just the way it works
[07:01] <bob2> anyway, it's annoyign enough that I'm not going to ask for more details, so good luck
[07:01] <twysted> will you two stop bickering and just get on with helping
[07:01] <anethema> if someone can help, they will
[07:01] <bob2> vol0za: #ubuntu-motu
[07:01] <anethema> if no one speaks up, they dont know
[07:01] <nalioth_zZz> vol0za: wiki.ubuntu.com is a good place to start looking
[07:02] <DavidLeeRoth> ayuda en espanol es en #ubuntu-es  si quieres saber
[07:02] <twysted> Concord_Dave if you cannot provide a question to your problem dont expect an answer, its as simple as that, JUST ASK PEOPLE IF WE CANT HELP WELL POINT YOU THE RIGHT WAY
[07:02] <anethema> i see the new gnome doesnt fix the damn button bug haha
[07:02] <Concord_Dawn> erm
[07:02] <anethema> where sometimes mousing over doesnt cause the button to pop out and so you cant fix it
[07:02] <twysted> anethema that sucks
[07:02] <anethema> not that big a deal
[07:02] <bob2> twysted: er, please?
[07:02] <vol0za> thanks, I'll try the motu and the wiki.
[07:02] <anethema> its just a small one so i figured it would be fixed
[07:02] <anethema> i wonder if its in the bugzilla
[07:03] <twysted> bob2?
[07:03] <bob2> anethema: if you've found a bug in gnome, please repoert it
[07:03] <Concord_Dawn> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2840
[07:03] <Concord_Dawn> there is my problem
[07:03] <bob2> twysted: no need to be obnoxious and/or use caps
[07:03] <Concord_Dawn> Tomcat blows chunks when I try and stop it.
[07:03] <anethema> its soo common bob i am sure it is in bugzills
[07:03] <anethema> a
[07:03] <anethema> like, all my ubuntu buddies know it is there
[07:03] <Concord_Dawn> but when I start it, I get no errors, and it doesn't start.
[07:03] <bob2> anethema: have you checked?
[07:03] <bob2> anethema: that's not rreally useful
[07:03] <twysted> Concord_dawn looks like a java error to me
[07:04] <anethema> and like in menus, sometimes when you open one pulldown menu, then switch to open another, it doesnt pop out and you click and the whole damn thing closes
[07:04] <borgista> Hello. How do I turn off the Totem-Mozilla plugin?
[07:04] <anethema> you know what i mean bob?
[07:04] <Concord_Dawn> wow, we're observant, considering I'm dinking around with a java servlet, I'd say you're on target.
[07:04] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: what does catalina try to connect to?
[07:04] <Concord_Dawn> (I'm not the only one who can be a smartass)
[07:04] <Concord_Dawn> bob2, nothing as of yet.
[07:04] <bob2> anethema: if no one else has filed a bug, please do so
[07:04] <tylerdurden> hey how come i can only go up to 75 mhz but in windows i can do 85?
[07:04] <esac_> expanding on borgista's question, how do i switch it so that instead of totem, nautilus launches VLC instead ?
[07:04] <anethema> okay
[07:04] <Concord_Dawn> btw, I'm following the howto located here: http://www.sitepoint.com/article/jsp-quick-start-guide-linux/4
[07:04] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: hm? the error seems to be that it's tried and filed
[07:04] <anethema> in ubuntu bugzilla or gnome?
[07:05] <bob2> anethema: either
[07:05] <esac_> tylerdurden: 75 Hz, not mhz
[07:05] <borgista> I installed mozilla-mplayer but totem-plugin still comes up.
[07:05] <tylerdurden> :S oops
[07:05] <anethema> ahh ive got an account at the ubuntu one, ill use that
[07:05] <tylerdurden> but still, but come i can only go up to 75?
[07:05] <Concord_Dawn> bob2, except for the fact that that's when I try and STOP it. when I start it I get the first 4 lines and no error.
[07:05] <bob2> tylerdurden: you need to ptovide some sort of context
[07:05] <twysted> borgista apt-get remove totem-mozilla or totem-plugin
[07:06] <tylerdurden> well i have a radeon 9200, adn my res is 1024 768
[07:06] <borgista> Neither work twysted
[07:06] <bob2> tylerdurden: you're talking about your video card then?
[07:06] <bob2> tylerdurden: I really really really doubt your refresh rate was ever 85MHz
[07:06] <tylerdurden> uhh..
[07:06] <tylerdurden> it is
[07:06] <tylerdurden> on windows it is
[07:06] <bob2> no, it's not
[07:06] <bob2> it's really not
[07:06] <twysted> id have to agree with bob, windows is VERRRRY lax with refresh rates
[07:06] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: hm, most of those things are in ubuntu already
[07:06] <tylerdurden> well its says 85
[07:07] <bob2> tylerdurden: 85 Hz != 85 MHz
[07:07] <tylerdurden> and in linux it says 75
[07:07] <twysted> my monitor only supporst 60htz but itll go up to 85 but it doesnt mean ill use 85 :)
[07:07] <borgista> twysted: do you think removing totem-gstreamer would work?
[07:07] <tylerdurden> well my bad it is Hz ok?
[07:07] <twysted> borgista that might work
[07:07] <Concord_Dawn> erm, ?
[07:07] <borgista> Let's see.
[07:07] <borgista> twysted: Should I try re-installing mozilla-mplayer?
[07:07] <Concord_Dawn> bob2, mind explaining what you mean?
[07:07] <twysted> borgista, yes
[07:08] <borgista> thanks twysted
[07:08] <anethema> bob2, ill report it, but do you or anyone else know which bug i mean?
[07:08] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: apache, mod_jk2, the tomcat libs
[07:08] <bob2> anethema: no
[07:08] <anethema> like sometimes when you mouseover a button it wont click
[07:08] <Concord_Dawn> mod_jk isn't in the repos
[07:08] <twysted> welcome
[07:08] <anethema> it doesnt pop out
[07:08] <Concord_Dawn> afaik
[07:08] <borgista> Let's see if this works...
[07:08] <Concord_Dawn> and is there any way to search the repos command line?
[07:08] <bob2> libapache-mod-jk - Apache 1.3 connector for the Tomcat Java servlet engine
[07:08] <bob2> libapache2-mod-jk2 - Apache 2.0 connector for the Tomcat Java servlet engine
[07:08] <Pickle_Weasel> does breezy come with java? i seem to be having problems
[07:08] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: ^
[07:08] <bob2> Pickle_Weasel: yes, but not the one from sun
[07:08] <borgista> Pickle_Weasel: no, it doesn't.
[07:08] <Concord_Dawn> DOH
[07:08] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: apt-cache search blah
[07:08] <borgista> OH, it does?
[07:09] <anethema> im trying to reproduce it in some reliable way before filing a report
[07:09] <Concord_Dawn> I r f***ing stupid
[07:09] <Pickle_Weasel> how would i remove this? i installed the one from sun i guess...over the existing one, and am having major problems
[07:09] <Concord_Dawn> how did I miss those
[07:09] <Concord_Dawn> bob2, will I still need tomcat though?
[07:09] <AlphaFaction> Hey any of you gyes know how to remove the harddrive icons that show up on the desktop when you got a fat32 drive in your pc? Id rather keep my desktop blank if i can
[07:09] <Laforge38> how do i start an emulator?
[07:10] <bob2> Laforge38: depends on the emulator
[07:10] <anethema> just apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[07:10] <Laforge38> NES one bob2
[07:10] <anethema> thats the one from sun
[07:10] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: oddly, yes,  its in Debian but not Ubuntu, for some reason.
[07:10] <bob2> Laforge38: that's still not specific enough
[07:10] <Laforge38> bob2, FECU
[07:11] <Concord_Dawn> bob2, so I just need to config Tomcat to work with mod_jk, but everything else will be done? sweet
[07:11] <bob2> Laforge38: what?
[07:11] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: I think so
[07:11] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell Pickle_Weasel about javadeb
[07:11] <Laforge38> bob2: FEC Ultra
[07:11] <borgista> that worked twysted
[07:11] <borgista> thank you.
[07:12] <bob2> Laforge38: that doesn't seem to be in ubuntu
[07:12] <bob2> Laforge38: did nestra not work?
[07:12] <Pickle_Weasel> nalioth_zZz, heh, there's great irony in sending me to that link
[07:12] <Pickle_Weasel> you see, the problem i am having is with azureus
[07:12] <Laforge38> bob2: well i wanted to try escape from pong, and it said to use FEC but i will try nestra
[07:12] <Pickle_Weasel> so i can't torrent a java package to fix my java problem
[07:13] <anethema> heh Pickle_Weasel
[07:13] <anethema> just type sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[07:13] <anethema> done, you have java
[07:13] <xuniluser> How do you recompile your kernel in Ubuntu?
[07:13] <tritium> anethema, not if he doesn't have the same repos as you have
[07:13] <anethema> oh
[07:14] <Pickle_Weasel> which i don't
[07:14] <tristanmike> Pickle_Weasel, that package isn't a torrent is it?
[07:14] <Pickle_Weasel> it is, it seems
[07:14] <dmlinux> Does anyone know how to get gDesklets to start on login.. I did sessions/startup but im not sure if im doing it right
[07:14] <tritium> xuniluser, the debian/ubuntu method involves using kernel-package
[07:14] <tristanmike> Pickle_Weasel, Hoary?
[07:14] <anethema> the only special repos i have are universe and multiverse
[07:14] <Pickle_Weasel> breezy
[07:14] <anethema> add those and you can install the sun j2re
[07:14] <tristanmike> Pickle_Weasel, http://tinyurl.com/bwomt
[07:15] <Laforge38> bob2: where would the rom be downloaded to?
[07:15] <Pickle_Weasel> i had everything working great, then last night my system messed up, now i have it back up and running, and i can't get torrents to work
[07:15] <anethema> !faq
[07:15] <ubotu> faq is probably The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[07:15] <bob2> Laforge38: wherever you told firefox to put it
[07:15] <bob2> Laforge38: ~/Desktop by default
[07:15] <Pickle_Weasel> could it be a problem with iptables?
[07:15] <Pickle_Weasel> what's the command to remove all firewall blocks?
[07:15] <Pickle_Weasel> -F?
[07:15] <tristanmike> outta my leauge
[07:15] <Laforge38> bob2: i got it from synaptic not firefox
[07:16] <Pickle_Weasel> tristanmike, what's the difference between the two java packages there?
[07:16] <Pickle_Weasel> nevermind, i see it now
[07:17] <esac> i heard that by release, ubuntu was going to be able to apt-get install klik .. are there still any plans for that ?
[07:17] <jbalint> Hi, I installed gcc, 4.0. But how do I compile the simplest program? /usr/include is almost empty!
[07:17] <winner> esac: what is klik?
[07:17] <tristanmike> Pickle_Weasel, umm, can you tell me, cause I don't understand the diff between re and sdk, sdk is for developers?
[07:17] <bob2> esac: where did you hear that?
[07:17] <Pickle_Weasel> that's what i figure
[07:17] <bob2> jbalint: install build-essential
[07:17] <Pickle_Weasel> re being runtime environment
[07:17] <esac> !klik
[07:17] <ubotu> klik is probably at  http://dot.kde.org/1126867980/
[07:17] <Pickle_Weasel> or somesuch
[07:17] <anethema> is there a issue with adding uni/multi verse then installing the sun java thru apt?
[07:18] <tristanmike> ahhh, makes sense now
[07:18] <anethema> seems to be the easiest way
[07:18] <jbalint> bob2: ok, i'll look for it.
[07:18] <thux> Hi, what to do when synaptic say: Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade"
[07:18] <mylastmorning> does anyone play Ragnarok?
[07:18] <esac> bob2: i dont recall. i know on the front page of klik that it says that klik is "being prepared for use with ubuntu" though
[07:18] <bob2> esac: that seems pointless given ubuntu has apt
[07:18] <jbalint> bob2: Ok, great. Thanks alot.
[07:20] <Concord_Dawn> has anyone here used tomcat before? I need some help connecting it to Apache2
[07:20] <bob2> esac: and that page doesn't seem to say anything about ubuntu itself, just that they have a forum thread about klik
[07:21] <nomasteryoda> bob2, did Ubuntu Developers make the link drag-n-drop for Firefox ... as in to desktop, etc.... or is that something from debian?
[07:21] <nomasteryoda> or firefox
[07:22] <nomasteryoda> that is something i missed when i left windows
[07:22] <bob2> I don' know
[07:22] <bob2> that sounds like firefox-gnome-support territyoty
[07:22] <Laforge38> how do i open a zip?
[07:22] <nomasteryoda> ok
[07:22] <nomasteryoda> anyhow, kudos to whomever
[07:23] <Hendric> abiword is just like magic...
[07:23] <topyli> Laforge38: try clicking on it :)
[07:23] <Hendric> where can i get opera?? its not on the repos i think....
[07:23] <Concord_Dawn> it's there Hendric
[07:23] <bob2> Hendric: www.opera.com...
[07:24] <bob2> opera's highly non-free and undistributable
[07:24] <bob2> or was
[07:25] <logikal_> hey anyone around?
[07:25] <logikal_> quick question
[07:25] <Concord_Dawn> sure.
[07:25] <logikal_> downloaded a theme for KDE, a source file
[07:25] <logikal_> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[07:25] <logikal_> See `config.log' for more details.
[07:25] <logikal_> got that error while running ./configure
[07:25] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[07:25] <Concord_Dawn> means it can't find gcc
[07:25] <logikal_> This distro does come with gcc correct?
[07:25] <Concord_Dawn> not standard
[07:25] <topyli> logikal_: install the build-essential package
[07:26] <Concord_Dawn> indeed
[07:26] <logikal_> ok
[07:26] <Hendric> its not on the repos.. i tried..
[07:26] <Concord_Dawn> it is.
[07:26] <bob2> it's really not
[07:26] <Concord_Dawn> at least, it's in one of them
[07:26] <Myrtti> !build-essential
[07:26] <ubotu> Myrtti: I give up, what is it?
[07:26] <Concord_Dawn> !packages opera
[07:26] <ubotu> I don't know, Concord_Dawn
[07:26] <Myrtti> hm
[07:26] <Concord_Dawn> !info opera
[07:26] <logikal_> is it in ther eor what?
[07:27] <logikal_> Yes it is
[07:27] <logikal_> I assure you, it's in there
[07:27] <logikal_> gcc-4.0
[07:27] <logikal_> do you have universe and multiverse on?
[07:27] <Hendric> see.. no opera
[07:27] <Concord_Dawn> no
[07:27] <johnsie2> I can't get videos to play on the BBC website
[07:28] <Concord_Dawn> logikal_ gcc 3.3 is much more compat
[07:28] <topyli> opera is not in the standard ubuntu repositories. there probably is a repository somewhere where you can get it
[07:28] <Myrtti> and why bother with apt
[07:28] <Concord_Dawn> topyli, it's in uni/multiverse
[07:28] <Myrtti> download the deb from their site
[07:28] <Myrtti> install with dpkg -i
[07:29] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: it's not
[07:29] <bob2> !+find bin/opera
[07:29] <johnsie2> how do i install the w32codecs?
[07:29] <Concord_Dawn> !w32codecs
[07:29] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[07:29] <tristanmike> Myrtti, because the programs have been specifically "crafted" for ubuntu
[07:29] <logikal_> give him the java sun site...
[07:29] <logikal_> for the codecs
[07:29] <Concord_Dawn> ok
[07:29] <Concord_Dawn> DIE TOMCAT
[07:30] <Concord_Dawn> I WANT TO SLAPZ0R YOU
[07:30] <logikal_> johnsie2, I find some codecs for most major types are in the repositories
[07:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/opera' returned no results.
[07:30] <jhonny> plz, how can i play MP3 in ubuntu at all, rhythmbox, specially?
[07:31] <johnsie2> really im just looking to play wmv off bbc.co.uk
[07:31] <topyli> jhonny: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:31] <Myrtti> !mp3
[07:31] <ubotu> See !restricted
[07:31] <jhonny> thx
[07:31] <Concord_Dawn> ubotu: tell jhonny about restricted
[07:31] <tristanmike> jhonny, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:31] <logikal_> gcc-3.3 is in the repositories too.
[07:31] <Concord_Dawn> logikal_ I recommend 3.3 over 4.0
[07:32] <Concord_Dawn> considering apt wanted to remove a whole lot of programs when I went to install gcc 4
[07:32] <logikal_> well i got the 3.3 c compiler, and the 4.0 c++ compiler.
[07:32] <jhonny> ok, but i had to enable extra reporitories
[07:32] <topyli> Concord_Dawn: i tend to recommend whatever the rest of the distribution is built with
[07:32] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[07:32] <jhonny> i can't find
[07:32] <Concord_Dawn> which is 3.3
[07:32] <Concord_Dawn> jhonny, it's in universe.
[07:32] <Concord_Dawn> or multiverse
[07:32] <logikal_> O like amarok jhonny
[07:32] <topyli> Concord_Dawn: true with hoary
[07:32] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[07:32] <Concord_Dawn> breezy built on gcc 4?
[07:32] <logikal_> amarok is the nicer MP3 Plater...
[07:32] <irvin> is cupsd enabled by default?
[07:33] <topyli> Concord_Dawn: i think so
[07:33] <Concord_Dawn> hm
[07:33] <Concord_Dawn> should I build tomcat from source, or get it in binary?
[07:33] <topyli> Concord_Dawn: nope, gcc 3.4.5, sorry
[07:33] <sumon> need help in scp
[07:33] <sumon> how does it work?
[07:33] <logikal_> topyli, so should I get gcc 4.0?
[07:34] <topyli> logikal_: no, i was wrong
[07:34] <crimsun> you'll get gcc-4.0 as part of the Breezy dist-upgrade
[07:34] <Concord_Dawn> :)
[07:34] <crimsun> (if you have build-essential installed)
[07:34] <Concord_Dawn> should I build tomcat from source, or get it in binary?
[07:34] <logikal_> uhhh
[07:35] <luckyaba> how do i install php?
[07:35] <Concord_Dawn> !php
[07:35] <ubotu> See !lamp
[07:35] <Concord_Dawn> !lamp
[07:35] <ubotu> methinks lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:35] <Concord_Dawn> EW.
[07:35] <Concord_Dawn> luckyaba, you could use lamp
[07:35] <Concord_Dawn> I recommend using the PHP packages in the repos.
[07:35] <Hendric> does opera support flash, java, video streams??? just like ff??
[07:35] <Concord_Dawn> yes Hendric
[07:36] <Concord_Dawn> what's the difference from building from source and getting a binary?
[07:36] <bob2> there is no tomcat binary
[07:36] <crimsun> building from source creates a binary
[07:36] <Hendric> Concord_Dawn, that is soo cool... hopefully it does without the burden of firefox...
[07:36] <crimsun> (or binaries)
[07:36] <luckyaba> concord_dawn: lamp? is that the name of the package
[07:36] <luckyaba> ?
[07:37] <Concord_Dawn> luckyaba follow the link that ubotu gave.
[07:37] <sumon> hmm
[07:37] <sumon> how does lamp works with ubuntu?
[07:37] <Concord_Dawn> you install it
[07:37] <Concord_Dawn> it works
[07:37] <Concord_Dawn> no questions asked
[07:37] <Concord_Dawn> mind you
[07:37] <Hendric> OMG.. opera installation did not place a menu... is this normal??????
[07:37] <lightstar> trace :  i tried uninstalling n reinstalling my anjuta..even as diff user...works fine..
[07:37] <sumon> you have sites-enables in ubuntu right?
[07:37] <XiDuS> xampp good for a lamp as well
[07:37] <Concord_Dawn> with apt, you can apt everything and it all works.
[07:38] <sumon> ya
[07:38] <sumon> i know
[07:38] <Concord_Dawn> sumon, yeah, if you install apache from the repos.
[07:38] <bob2> Hendric: please chill the hell out
[07:38] <bob2> Hendric: yes, it's normal
[07:38] <johnsie2> hmmmm.... I still cant get mplayer to play the videos on http://www.bbc.co.uk/news it plays a little bit and then stops
[07:38] <sumon> but say if you have multiple sites and multiple configuration files..
[07:38] <sumon> how you can do it in lampp?
[07:38] <Spudz0rz> Hey people, just wondering if anyone knows if i can get any kernel modules for the acer aspire 3002 (for ACPI), i needa read the battery, and currently it says it cant read it...
[07:39] <crimsun> Spudz0rz: are you running the Breezy RC?
[07:39] <Hendric> bob2, sorry. but i was expecting it to be a great software that places a menu for easy access.
[07:39] <Spudz0rz> crimsun, hoary atm
[07:39] <crimsun> Spudz0rz: please try the Breezy RC (see the topic)
[07:39] <sumon> breezy doesn't work
[07:39] <bob2> sumon: in what way?
[07:40] <sumon> i tried to install it .. it deleted all my configuration..
[07:40] <sumon> had to re-install hoary
[07:40] <bob2> sumon: this sounds like you didn't know what you were doing
[07:40] <Spudz0rz> :S
[07:41] <johnsie2> can anyone help me with my streaming wmv problem in mplayer?
[07:41] <sumon> ya i didn't know much that time..
[07:41] <sumon> i know a little better now..
[07:41] <Spudz0rz> crimsun, i would rather wait for the full release to come out instead of having a testing stage os... :P
[07:41] <Concord_Dawn> hm
[07:41] <topyli> sumon: just upgrade. you don't have to do a clean install of every release
[07:42] <logikal_> Ok
[07:42] <sumon> ya i did apt-get update
[07:42] <logikal_> I went ahead and got the build-essentials
[07:42] <logikal_> and im installing this now
[07:43] <logikal_> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:43] <johnsie2> dang it I'm gonna have to resort to fox news now cos they are the only ones who whose flash instead of WMV
[07:43] <johnsie2> lol
[07:43] <crimsun> Spudz0rz: you do realize it's out in 7 days, right?
[07:43] <aztektum> google news
[07:43] <Spudz0rz> yeah i know
[07:43] <logikal_> johnsie
[07:43] <logikal_> you can get it working
[07:43] <crimsun> the RC is a very close approximation
[07:43] <logikal_> use the repositories
[07:43] <johnsie2> how?
[07:44] <crimsun> if you're not comfortable installing it, try the live cd
[07:44] <sumon> Dawn: how can you make lampp work with multiple httpd.conf
[07:45] <sumon> like ubuntu comes with 00default.conf
[07:45] <Concord_Dawn> you don't need multiple httpd.confs.
[07:45] <sumon> hmm.. what if you have different mod-rewrites ?
[07:46] <Concord_Dawn> contain them inside a virtual server?
[07:46] <sumon> so you actually need multiple .confs for each of them correct?
[07:46] <logikal_> johnsie2, are you in ubuntu now?
[07:46] <johnsie2> yep
[07:46] <logikal_> gnome or kde?
[07:46] <Concord_Dawn> anyways
[07:46] <johnsie2> gnome
[07:46] <Concord_Dawn> g'night
[07:46] <sumon> hmm what if you want use 443
[07:46] <logikal_> go to
[07:46] <sumon> then you are thrown back to the other one right?
[07:46] <logikal_> find Synaptic Package installer
[07:47] <logikal_> it should be in system menu
[07:47] <sumon> ok gnite
[07:47] <sumon> brb
[07:48] <johnsie2> pakage manager?
[07:48] <durt> are you too lazy to simply read the news johnsie2?
[07:48] <johnsie2> no i wanna watch the videos on a news site
[07:48] <josh43> O, how do I find out if I have hardware 3d? glxgears goes 100% cpu, but fglrxinfo shows radeon 9800pro
[07:49] <logikal_> guys
[07:49] <logikal_> I want to
[07:49] <logikal_> apt-get install libx11-dev
[07:49] <logikal_> but it cant find it...
[07:49] <topyli> johnsie2: once you get the w32codecs and maybe realplayer, you can watch pretty much anything
[07:49] <josh43> logikal: what repositories do you have?
[07:49] <logikal_> universe and multiverse
[07:49] <johnsie2> i've been trying to get the w32 done
[07:49] <logikal_> enable all of those
[07:49] <logikal_> the look for gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:50] <josh43> johnsie2, You can also use vlc - that's a contained package with just about everything
[07:51] <johnsie2> yeah... I want it embedded in mozilla
[07:51] <NilXu> josh43: vlc as in video lan client?
[07:51] <josh43> NilXu, Yeah, they changed the name to just vlc now
[07:51] <durt> johnsie2: get mozplugger
[07:52] <winner> does anyone know how to use "Andale Mono" for rxvt?
[07:52] <johnsie2> how?
[07:52] <NilXu> josh43: right is it ain the base install or is does it have to be added?
[07:52] <topyli> johnsie2: vlc has a mozilla plugin. so does mplayer. so does totem
[07:52] <josh43> NilXu, I should know; I've been trying to compile it for 3 days ;)
[07:52] <durt> sudo apt-get install mozplugger
[07:52] <josh43> NilXu, It's in the repository assuming you dont have an athlon64
[07:52] <CSWookie> Anybody here use gnucash?
[07:52] <NilXu> josh43: thats correct
[07:53] <johnsie2> ok and what is mozplgger
[07:53] <josh43> NilXu, so... it's not in the base install, but it's addable
[07:53] <CSWookie> I'm trying to use it for accounts payable/recievable, and I'm not seeing how to do it.
[07:53] <NilXu> cool
[07:53] <josh43> So, how do I find out if I have hardware 3d? glxgears goes 100% cpu, but fglrxinfo shows radeon 9800pro
[07:54] <durt> mozplugger lets you view stuff (videos, audio, pdfs...) in your browser
[07:54] <oolon> hi all
[07:55] <topyli> josh43: glxinfo | grep direct
[07:55] <oolon> if i wanted to boot into cli instead of X do i edit the /etc/inittab or is there a better way?
[07:55] <johnsie2> ok... I've app-getted it... now what?
[07:55] <josh43> topyli: It shows yes.. does that mean hardware 3d, I assume?
[07:56] <topyli> josh43: yes
[07:56] <tritium> oolon, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[07:56] <tritium> no fussing with runlevels
[07:56] <josh43> topyli: Perfect.. now.. is there anything to test it on besides glxgears? :) (Have been trying to get hardware 3d in ubuntu for 7 months!!)
[07:56] <oolon> tritium, thanks :)
[07:56] <tritium> oolon, :)
[07:57] <durt> try the videos now johnsie2 (assuming you have mplayer installed)
[07:57] <josh43> durt: what's the best way to install mplayer in ubuntu?
[07:57] <johnsie2> it plays less then a second and then stops
[07:58] <tritium> josh43, use the ubuntu packages
[07:58] <lightstar> apt-get install mplayer
[07:58] <tritium> not quite
[07:58] <josh43> tritium: I was afraid of that.. none list for me yet... I assume it's an a64 thing
[07:58] <joe_> hi guys
[07:58] <durt> johnsie2: what is the url that your trying to play?
[07:58] <joe_> anyone got a good player to recommend?
[07:59] <joe_> realplayer quicktime
[07:59] <tritium> josh43, apt-cache search mplayer returns nothign?
[07:59] <lightstar> oops..apt-get install mplayer-386
[07:59] <johnsie2> anything in the http://news.bbc.co.uk/
[07:59] <tritium> nothing even?
[07:59] <josh43> tritium: Correct
[07:59] <topyli> josh43: try out a game. like tuxracer
[07:59] <joe_> _ligh do you have to be root to instll?
[07:59] <johnsie2> i tried cnn too and it did the same thing :-/
[08:00] <sumon> how do start mplayer?
[08:00] <lightstar> sumon : application->sound n video->mplayer
[08:00] <josh43> johnsie2, Why do you want it in the browser so bad anyways instead of in it's own window?
[08:01] <lightstar> or from console mplayer
[08:01] <jhonny> plz, what iochar should i use to configure a FAT partition? mine get problems with '' and '' chars
[08:01] <johnsie2> so it fits in with the way the site is designed
[08:01] <tritium> josh43, you're on amd64?  do you run a 32-bit chroot?
[08:01] <sumon> how do you install msn massanger in ubuntu?
[08:01] <johnsie2> lol
[08:01] <tritium> sumon, most people use gaim
[08:01] <propagandhi> or kopete
[08:01] <topyli> sumon: gaim should already be there
[08:02] <lightstar> sumon : gaim is cool..but if u really 1 msn close then amsn is the way
[08:02] <sumon> ya i knw amsn..
[08:02] <josh43> Uhm.... tuxracer just made me have to log in again
[08:02] <adiabatic> I take it ubuntu-5.10-preview-live-i386.iso.torrent has been disabled because the RC is out now?
[08:02] <sumon> where is gaim?
[08:02] <Hobbsee> !gaim
[08:02] <ubotu> gaim is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[08:02] <josh43> sumon: applications>internet>gaim
[08:02] <lightstar> sumon : in applications->internet
[08:03] <topyli> sumon: in the menu, among other internet apps
[08:03] <josh43> that round goes to Hobbsee
[08:03] <Dreamer3> ok
[08:03] <Dreamer3> how can i stop eth0 from claiming the 0.0.0.0 route?
[08:03] <durt> johnsie2: sometimes only the intro sequence plays, but for others the actual video plays - i dont know why
[08:03] <Dreamer3> when i dial with wvdial my dial-up doesn't work cause everything is routed wrong
[08:04] <johnsie2> oh, thats ok.. thanks for the help anyway  :-)
[08:04] <johnsie2> i think it might be cos i dont have w32ocodecs
[08:04] <Hobbsee> josh43: *cheers*  what prize do i win for being the first reply?
[08:04] <joe_> ok it can't find the package mplayer
[08:04] <joe_> what do i do?
[08:05] <johnsie2> i tried the instructions from ubuntuguide.org and it gave me an error when I typed in the w32codecs line
[08:05] <tritium> joe_, apt-cache search mplayer to find the package for your arch
[08:05] <Linuxpie> hello everyone
[08:05] <joe_> i did that,
[08:05] <Dreamer3> anyone?
[08:05] <joe_> and says kerel for driver scaler on matrox
[08:05] <tritium> joe_, sounds like you don't have the multiverse repo listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:05] <josh43> Hobbsee; Uhm.. this stuffed 3" penguin (you put your weed in there)
[08:06] <joe_> how do i enable?
[08:06] <propagandhi> Dreamer3: take a look at your /etc/network/interfaces file
[08:06] <tritium> !tell joe_ about repositories
[08:06] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: ok :) and?
[08:06] <sumon> is there a scp client in ubuntu?
[08:06] <tritium> joe_, add multiverse repo, update, and try again
[08:06] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: it looks about the same as on my deb box where i don't have this problem :)
[08:06] <tritium> yes, sumon
[08:06] <Hendric> any suggestion for a light weight file manager? nautilus is hungry too...
[08:06] <propagandhi> paste in the pastebin
[08:06] <joe_> thanks, i think i setup universe but not multi
[08:06] <joe_> i'll try it out
[08:06] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: me?
[08:06] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: i'm at console
[08:06] <Hobbsee> josh43: ooh cute penguin!
[08:06] <joe_> tri thanks
[08:06] <tritium> sumon, it's in the openssh-client package
[08:07] <sumon> tri : where is scp client?
[08:07] <johnsie2> when i typed in sudo apt-get install w32codecs I got an error message
[08:07] <tritium> sumon, /usr/bin/scp (should already be in your path), part of the openssh-client package
[08:07] <propagandhi> Dreamer3: ahh ok
[08:07] <sumon> do I have to use command line for scp or can i use a gui?
[08:07] <johnsie2> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[08:07] <tritium> scp is a cli app, sumon.  If you want gui, try gftp
[08:08] <lightstar> sumon : u can use the gui..but the command line is much simpler
[08:08] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: anything in particular i'm looking for?
[08:08] <tritium> johnsie2, removed for legal reasons
[08:08] <johnsie2> is there anywhere else that it is available?
[08:08] <sumon> can you give me an example of scp in cli?
[08:08] <tritium> sumon, try "man scp" for details, ok?
[08:08] <tristanmike> !tell johnsie2 about w32codecs
[08:08] <propagandhi> Dreamer3: what is listed for eth0
[08:09] <lightstar> sumon : simplest scp command " scp <your file> user@server:" if u 1 2 copy things over
[08:09] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: inet static
[08:09] <Dreamer3> address 10.10.5.2
[08:10] <Dreamer3> netmask 255.255.0.0
[08:10] <sumon> whats the other way?
[08:10] <Dreamer3> gatweay 10.10.1.1
[08:10] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: that's it
[08:10] <sumon> scp user@server filename localfilename?
[08:10] <tritium> lightstar, 1 2?
[08:10] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: a 10.10.0.0 route would be nice, but not 0.0.0.0
[08:10] <lightstar> tritup : want to...damn too used to using short cuts:P..bad bad
[08:11] <lightstar> tritum: damn spelling..1 2 = want to...damn too used to using short cuts:P..bad bad
[08:11] <johnsie2> what should I do once i download the w32codecs torrent?
[08:11] <prabu^> Hello all
[08:11] <logikal_> is it a tar.gz ?
[08:11] <prabu^> anyone have any idea how the support for ubuntu amd64 is ?
[08:11] <johnsie2> w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:11] <prabu^> as in package availability,etc
[08:12] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: any thoguhts?
[08:12] <sumon> how do I know which version of ubuntu i have right now?
[08:12] <tristanmike> johnsie2, "sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>
[08:12] <tristanmike> without quote
[08:12] <lui> johnsie2, why did u download the w32codecs, you could do it all with apt
[08:12] <johnsie2> ok then what?
[08:12] <tritium> sumon, lsb_release -a
[08:13] <tristanmike> enjoy
[08:13] <johnsie2> i cant it's not in apt anymore
[08:13] <tristanmike> lui, w32codecs removed for legal reasons
[08:13] <propagandhi> Dreamer3: so even with that info there eth0 is using 0.0.0.0?
[08:13] <sumon> so I have hoary 5.04
[08:13] <lui> oh, bad thing
[08:13] <sumon> if i want to make it breezy .. is it a good idea?
[08:14] <johnsie2> w32codecs covers wmv right?
[08:14] <joe_> tri_ i can't seem to get it to work
[08:14] <sumon> so you think all my config files will be the same?
[08:14] <lui> even from backports?
[08:14] <tristanmike> johnsie2, wmv9 on 32 bit, should be ok
[08:14] <tristanmike> lui, gone, poof, and java too
[08:14] <lui> java!!!?
[08:15] <joe_> _tritium i can't seem to get mplayer to install
[08:15] <tritium> lui, illegal to distribute it
[08:15] <lui> sh*tt!
[08:15] <tristanmike> lui, well, the "non-free" one
[08:15] <tritium> joe_, you have multiverse?  did you update?
[08:16] <tritium> joe_, which processor do you have?
[08:16] <joe_> an old pII
[08:16] <joe_> i did update
[08:16] <lui> what should we do to end with those dumb illegal things? >:(
[08:16] <joe_> at least ithnk i did
[08:16] <joe_> i did it in the root terminal
[08:16] <tritium> !info mplayer-586
[08:16] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB
[08:17] <joe_> ok i'll try
[08:17] <tritium> good luck, and good night, joe_
[08:17] <joe_> gnite
[08:17] <joe_> thanks again
[08:18] <lui> but libdvdcss2 is there right?
[08:18] <tristanmike> lui, nope, gone too
[08:19] <lui> oh my god....... this is bill gates thing! sure!!
[08:21] <sumon> can anybody give me some good things abt ubuntu.... good tools...??
[08:21] <lightstar> sumon : such as?
[08:22] <sumon> i am new to ubuntu..
[08:22] <sumon> so anything would help
[08:23] <lightstar> sumon : wat kinda r u looking 4? entertainment? games?
[08:23] <sumon> programming
[08:23] <sumon> hmm ya
[08:23] <sumon> also games
[08:24] <lightstar> sumon : for programming u might take a look at anjuta..its a pretty decent ide..supports c,c++,php,etc..
[08:24] <sumon> is there any good editor?
[08:24] <Hendric> on what package does xlib6g belongs?? need to apt-get it..
[08:24] <sumon> how can I get anjuta?
[08:24] <lightstar> sumon : as for games, the only ones i use are the default ones tat come with ubuntu...as for text editor i feel that gedit is fine
[08:24] <lightstar> sumon : apt-get install anjuta
[08:25] <bob2> anjuta isn't a very good editor
[08:25] <Hendric> bob2, can you help me with xlib6g ?? can't seem to find its package
[08:26] <lightstar> bob2 :  i have no complaints with it so far
[08:26] <sumon> i have Nvu..i think it comes with ubuntu
[08:27] <lightstar> sumon : if i aint mistaken isn't that for web authoring only?
[08:28] <bob2> Hendric: if you're trying to run opera, you should mention that in your question
[08:28] <sumon> light : hmm i think so.. ya..actually it is .. its kinda like frontpage . dreamweaver..
[08:28] <bob2> !+find xlib6g
[08:28] <lightstar> sumon : haha...u looking for a tool for specific programming language?
[08:29] <Hendric> bob2, its for opera.. trying to instal motif. sorry
[08:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'xlib6g' returned no results.
[08:29] <zorba64> Hendric: are you looking for libx11-6?
[08:29] <Hendric> zorba64, no xlib6g <-
[08:29] <bob2> Hendric: I really doubt opera needs motif
[08:30] <sumon> not really..
[08:30] <sumon> i am just looking what else can I do ...
[08:30] <sumon> any photoshop / paintshop kinda stuff?
[08:30] <bob2> sumon: gimp, which you already have installed
[08:30] <lightstar> sumon : gimp..haha..i dun do graphics editing..so i cant help ya much on tat
[08:30] <Hendric> can't seem to make flash work. i installed it using d one from macromedia... firefox works already.. not opera
[08:31] <zorba64> Hendric: http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/libs/xlib6g
[08:31] <sumon> any car games??
[08:33] <LethAL> torcs is a good car game apparently
[08:33] <Hendric> tnx
[08:33] <LethAL> :-)
[08:33] <sumon> how can I get that?
[08:33] <sumon> torcs?
[08:33] <LethAL> sudo apt-get install torcs
[08:33] <LethAL> The Open Rally Car Simulator iirc
[08:34] <jmg> anyone using wpa?
[08:35] <zorba64> Hendric: http://www.tuxfinder.com/debian/description.php?name=xlib6g&mode=1
[08:37] <sumon> how can I play torcs?
[08:37] <LethAL> Press alt-f2 and type torcs in
[08:37] <sumon> oh how do I know if my soundcard is installed properly?
[08:37] <LethAL> When you can hear things
[08:37] <LethAL> :D
[08:38] <irvin> isn't cupsd enabled by default?
[08:39] <irvin> i can install my printer without any hassle but i can't print a test page
[08:39] <sumon> oops
[08:39] <melvztechie> guys, any MMORPG games compatible or can be run in ubuntu?
[08:39] <sumon> it didn't work
[08:39] <sumon> torcs
[08:40] <bob2> melvztechie: appdb.codeweavers.com
[08:40] <sumon> torcs closes after a little while
[08:41] <sumon> and I don't hear anything
[08:41] <sumon> Lethal: torcs doesn't work
[08:41] <melvztechie> bob2: i guess am gonna learn this app. first:D
[08:41] <sumon> and its not giving me any sound...
[08:42] <bob2> ?
[08:42] <sumon> so my soundcard is not installed properly..
[08:42] <bob2> it's a website
[08:42] <irvin> melvztechie, there are lots of native mmorpg games that can run
[08:42] <bob2> sumon: jumping to conclusions like that seems silly
[08:42] <sumon> bob2 : how can I check my sound card?
[08:43] <bob2> nevermind
[08:43] <logikal_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/385926    anyone have any ideas? Compiling a theme for KDE
[08:43] <melvztechie> irvin: have u tried for example Gundbound? or Ragnarok?
[08:43] <melvztechie> irvin: or MUonline?
[08:43] <irvin> melvztechie, ahhh that kind.
[08:44] <melvztechie> irvin: yup?
[08:44] <irvin> melvztechie, MU runs fine but with font problems
[08:44] <ati> Hey everyone
[08:44] <maxmouse> im using breezy, is there a reason why wine isnt in the apt list ?
[08:44] <irvin> you'll need cedega
[08:44] <Hendric> !+find libXm.so.3
[08:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libXm.so.3' (1 shown): (/usr/X11R6/lib/{libXm.so.3|libXm.so.3.0.2}) in multiverse/libs/libmotif3.
[08:45] <root__> hello
[08:45] <jmg> Hendric: libxaw3dg
[08:45] <logikal_> maxmouse, enable universe and multiverse in your repository browser in synaptic
[08:45] <jmg> er
[08:45] <root__> anyone here
[08:45] <jmg> yeah what he said
[08:45] <melvztechie> irvin: so do we have this in our repository or this is a third party appl?
[08:45] <jmg> root__: dont irc as root
[08:45] <root__> i cant irc with xchat as normal user i keep getting a bluetinited xchat
[08:46] <irvin> melvztechie, its commercial, but there's a free one from cvs. http://www.transgaming.org
[08:46] <Hendric> d repos are broken... W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt-utils_0.6.40.1ubuntu8_i386.deb
[08:46] <Hendric>   404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[08:46] <xuniluser> What printing command does Openoffice use? is it lpr?
[08:46] <melvztechie> irvin: oh i see, i thought its free, well ill check transgaming.org, thanks for the hint!!!
[08:46] <melvztechie> you guys really rock!! tanks
[08:48] <maxmouse> logikal_, hmm i did that, and when i do an apt-get install wine it still says there is no installation candidate
[08:48] <dooglus> Hendric: try this instead: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt-utils_0.6.40.1ubuntu9_i386.deb
[08:49] <logikal_> use synaptic maxmouse
[08:50] <dooglus> Hendric: what you probably need is "sudo apt-get update"
[08:50] <Hendric> k
[08:50] <dooglus> (but isn't that supposed to happen automatically?  or how does the update manager know there are updates?)
[08:51] <Hendric> it should happen automatically
[08:51] <Hendric> but well nothings perfect
[08:51] <damnhil>  how do I disable "never remember the password for the site " in konqueror?
[08:51] <dooglus> maxmouse: wine is in 'universe'.  you need to add the universe repositories
[08:52] <dooglus> damnhil: #kubuntu
[08:52] <aftertaf> damnhil:  areyou using kwallet for password storage?
[08:52] <maxmouse> dooglus, im pretty sure i just did that
[08:53] <damnhil> aftertaf,yes
[08:53] <dooglus> maxmouse: did you 'update' afterwards?
[08:53] <dooglus> !repositories
[08:53] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[08:53] <maxmouse> dooglast, does it not update itself?
[08:53] <maxmouse> dooglus even
[08:53] <maxmouse> sorry ;)
[08:53] <dooglus> maxmouse: I don't know.  it's been months since I added anything
[08:54] <maxmouse> oh ok
[08:55] <logikal_> Someone want to look at this?
[08:55] <logikal_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/385930
[08:55] <logikal_> I got that when doing "make" when trying to compile a theme
[08:55] <logikal_> for KDE
[08:57] <aftertaf> logikal_:  try make clean first.....
[08:57] <bob2> logikal_: the makefile or instructions are broken
[08:57] <aftertaf> or am i completely off the track??
[08:57] <Gimp`> hey
[08:58] <bob2> oh, and the tarball is screwed up
[08:58] <Gimp`> how would i mount a ntfs drive in ubuntu?
[08:58] <bob2> Gimp`: /msg ubotu ntfs
[08:59] <erick> hi bob2
[09:00] <logikal_> I tried make clean
[09:00] <logikal_> this is what it gives me
[09:00] <erick> just want to ask if yahoo messenger with webcam possible in ubuntu?
[09:00] <logikal_> ake[1] : Entering directory `/home/logikal/QtCurve-0.23.1/QtCurve-0.23.1'
[09:00] <logikal_> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[09:00] <logikal_> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/logikal/QtCurve-0.23.1/QtCurve-0.23.1'
[09:00] <logikal_> make: *** [clean-recursive]  Error 1
[09:00] <Hendric> erick, not possible
[09:00] <natescape> is there a linux version of yahoo messenger?
[09:00] <ColonelKernel> natescape, yes - but I'd use gaim if I were you
[09:00] <bob2> natescape: yes, and it's shit
[09:00] <bob2> natescape: use gaim
[09:01] <bob2> logikal_: the source is broken, talk to whoever made it
[09:01] <bob2> (ie the author)
[09:01] <erick> hendrick, what alternative messenger that can used with webcam
[09:01] <logikal_> well a guy on another channel did it fine
[09:01] <irvin> erick, gyach or ayttm
[09:01] <ColonelKernel> gyach? isnt that what snoop calls women/
[09:02] <Gimp|> woot
[09:02] <Gimp|> thx bob :)
[09:02] <erick> irvin thanks, i will research for that
[09:02] <erick> does gimp support webcam
[09:02] <ColonelKernel> not yahoo webcam
[09:03] <erick> yeah not yahoo,i want to use my webcam in gaim, but how? or it is possible or should I use gyach or ayttm
[09:04] <bobot> hello... anyone using amarok in ubuntu 5.04? i can't play mp3s...
[09:04] <irvin> erick, you'll want to have gaim-vv instead
[09:04] <erick> gaim-vv? another version of gaim?
[09:04] <Gimp|> hmm
[09:04] <sumon> how can I see what applications I have in ubuntu right now?
[09:04] <Gimp|> ubuntu cant play mp3 files by default?
[09:05] <Hendric> erick, i use gyach with webcams perfectly..
[09:05] <sumon> or is there anyways to see what can I get from apt-get install?
[09:05] <erick> hendric, can I use sudo apt-get install gyach to install this packages
[09:05] <Jedrick> is it ok to run two terminals at a time
[09:06] <epic___> sure is Jedrick
[09:06] <gopi> hi
[09:06] <Jedrick> cause im updating using terminal and i want to launch another terminal to unpack sumthing
[09:06] <Jedrick> is it ok?
[09:06] <epic___> run as many as you like
[09:06] <Jedrick> ok
[09:06] <epic___> sumon, use synaptic
[09:07] <erick> hendric can i use sudo apt-get install gyach?
[09:07] <melvztechie> Jedrick: Its linux, that what we call a very good multi-tasking feature
[09:07] <Hendric> erick, its not available on the repos
[09:07] <erick> hendric so I will search and install it manually
[09:08] <Hendric> erick, find the .rpm one.. then alien -i package.rpm
[09:08] <Jedrick> kool
[09:08] <Hendric> then type gyach on the terminal..
[09:08] <logikal_> How do i apply themes in KDE?
[09:09] <epic___> #kubuntu logikal_
[09:09] <erick> hendric, where can I get a list of commands that use in ubuntu, bcoz this is my 1st tym to used ubuntu
[09:09] <Hendric> erick, dunno sorry
[09:10] <erick> hendric based on your experience what basic cmd should I know just to survive with ubuntu
[09:10] <epic___> erick,   open a terminal and press TAB 4 or 5 times rapidly
[09:11] <Hendric> epic___ is right about that... press the TAB rapidly and it will ask if you want to see all the commands
[09:11] <N6REJ> does anyone know how to use aptitude?  I just installed Hoary and it says I have 2 broken files
[09:11] <erick> k i get -it epic thanks and hendric thanks also
[09:11] <N6REJ> It was trying to update after install
[09:12] <epic___> tab complete is your friend  :)
[09:12] <winner> what do you guys use to play wmvs?
[09:12] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  sudo apt-get -f install
[09:12] <N6REJ> aftertaf: so exit aptitude?
[09:12] <aftertaf> yep
[09:12] <aftertaf> harness the power of console ;)
[09:12] <N6REJ> aftertaf: ok, I'll try
[09:12] <Jedrick> how to know if my kernel supports ipv6
[09:13] <N6REJ> cc
[09:13] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  did you mean, installed breezy? you said Hoary.....
[09:13] <epic___> Jedrick, default ubuntu kernels support ipv
[09:14] <epic___> +6
[09:14] <N6REJ> aftertaf: no I installed Hoary the Hedgehog.  I tried 18x to install breezy and was unable to get it installed.  Course I was unable to get hoary to install b4 2nite either.  I was using a 700mb RW disc b4 and 2nite I reburned on a straight CD now that I have more.
[09:14] <Jedrick> ok
[09:15] <jerryg> i did not have my printer on when i installed ubuntu thus i no longer know if it is compatible.  is there a process i can go through to see if i can get it to work ?
[09:15] <Jedrick> so it supports ipv6?
[09:15] <N6REJ> so since its an ancient sytem ( p2-350 ) I thought I'd try hoary first and if that didn't work fall back to warta (?)
[09:15] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  knackered CD..... ?
[09:15] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  how much ram?
[09:15] <epic___> Jedrick, have you looked at ifconfig?
[09:15] <natescape> I have a serial cable running between two machines, and I can log in over the serial line (good).  But when I kill the getty and run "echo abcdefg > /dev/ttyS1" only the "abc" comes out on the other end.  Anyone got any theories as to why the rest gets truncated?
[09:15] <N6REJ> I think bad compatibility between cd drives and 700mb cdrw format
[09:15] <N6REJ> 384mb
[09:15] <N6REJ> :D
[09:15] <aftertaf> oki
[09:16] <N6REJ> old, but BIG BRAIN LOL
[09:16] <Jedrick> nope
[09:16] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  is it connected to the net?
[09:16] <N6REJ> yep
[09:16] <erick> guys gyach-1.9.8.tar.gz only available, how wil I install it
[09:16] <natescape> I'm guessing there's an stty setting I need to change, but I'm not sure which.
[09:16] <N6REJ> its nat'd though
[09:16] <epic___> anyhow, as I was saying, dafualt ubuntu kernels do, if you compile your own you will need to make sure you include it
[09:17] <epic___> erick, read the README and INSTALL files in gyach-1.9.8.tar.gz
[09:17] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  no pb.... can it contact the repositories?
[09:17] <N6REJ> aftertaf: I think so, I think it did and did a few files and thats when it had problems... let me hit enter now and see
[09:17] <erick> epic k thanks
[09:17] <anthony> I was wondering whether anyone know which file determines what programs are started on boot-up?  Currently I have Gaim opening when I start, and I'd like to remove that line, but I don't remember the file.
[09:18] <N6REJ> aftertaf: dpkg replied you must manually configure ......
[09:18] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  pastebin if big error message..... ;)
[09:18] <N6REJ> aftertaf: it CAN ping yahoo though.
[09:18] <GillesR> hi all
[09:18] <N6REJ> how, I"m not on it
[09:19] <aftertaf> salut GillesR :)
[09:19] <N6REJ> I'm on my windoze box, its sitting across the counter
[09:19] <aftertaf> hehe N6REJ
[09:19] <N6REJ> telnet in?
[09:19] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  have you set up the machineto connect to the reps? if so, do sudo apt-get update
[09:20] <GillesR> aftertaf: franais autoris ?
[09:20] <anthony> I remember seeing this file at one time, but simply don't remember it's location.  It's the one containing things such as Order: 50, Command: tpb -d.
[09:20] <aftertaf> GillesR:  pas trop....... :)    but there is ubuntu-fr is english is a pb :)
[09:20] <N6REJ> aftertaf: I installed the cd, answered the q's it said take out the cd, it rebooted, downloaded a few files, and then said it broken and put me in aptitude.
[09:20] <aftertaf> Im just doing my 'frimeur' by speaking frenh
[09:21] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  ok. can you do Alt F1 and open a console session?
[09:21] <N6REJ> aftertaf: yep, I'm in there now
[09:21] <aftertaf> oki
[09:21] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst
[09:21] <erick> epic what this error means, no acceptable C Compiler found $PATH Im installing gyach using ./configure
[09:22] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  get your apt setup correctly :)
[09:22] <N6REJ> aftertaf: I'm there
[09:22] <N6REJ> aftertaf:  <---- loves nano/pico
[09:22] <m00se> Hello
[09:22] <N6REJ> aftertaf:  ok, let me look at it, see if i can make heads or tails... brb
[09:22] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  ok. comment out cd deb line...., and uncomment the other deb http:// lines
[09:22] <GillesR> aftertaf: OK. I've just install Ubunto in a virtual PC session, but it's choose a too large screen resolution. I never see a normal screen and I don't know how change to a good resolution 800x600. can you help me please ?
[09:23] <m00se> can anyone help me with installing hoary on amd64?
[09:23] <porkbelly> would anyone be able to give me some help with installing ubuntu on a server, I seem to be stupid when it comes to scsi
[09:23] <aftertaf> GillesR:  you can edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and choose a lower default rsolution
[09:23] <aftertaf> lol porkbelly :)
[09:23] <porkbelly> :(
[09:24] <gaeshi> Hello!
[09:24] <porkbelly> hi
[09:24] <gaeshi> Please advise me some good tutorial for Linux
[09:25] <N6REJ> aftertaf: ok back.  I commented out the first line which read "deb cdrom........" and uncommented the rest of the deb's.
[09:25] <GillesR> aftertaf: thank. I completely newbee. What do I write ? I'm currently on root...(
[09:25] <Chousuke> gaeshi: What do you want to learn in particular?
[09:25] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  sudo apt-get update.....
[09:26] <N6REJ> aftertaf: ok
[09:26] <oca> what minimum configuration that ubuntu satisfactorily run?
[09:26] <Chousuke> gaeshi: Look at the wikis, use google and if you want to learn more advanced topics too, rute.sf.net
[09:26] <gaeshi> Chousuke, I woulud like to start with anything
[09:26] <aftertaf> GillesR:  on root? do you mean you are in a terminal? as root?
[09:26] <Chousuke> RUTE teaches you some command line
[09:26] <gaeshi> but I don"t know what to start from
[09:27] <gaeshi> RUTE?
[09:27] <Chousuke> see the urls
[09:27] <Chousuke> -s
[09:27] <lightstar> gaeshi : tldp.org not bad as well...
[09:27] <N6REJ> aftertaf: ok, fetched a bunch of package lists, and then gave me the dpkg failure error again.
[09:27] <erick> gaeshi is ur ubuntu already installed
[09:27] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade ??
[09:27] <GillesR> aftertaf: the prompt is "root@xxxx:/etc/X11 #"
[09:27] <Chousuke> oh, damn
[09:27] <gaeshi> lightstar, I have watched tldp.org, but didn"t find anything simple enough - it"s just full of documentation
[09:28] <Chousuke> rute's sf site is down :(
[09:28] <nightyticki> rute is down Chousuke
[09:28] <aftertaf> GillesR:  oki... you opened a root terminal.
[09:28] <erick> epic i use the command ./confiure angd got this error no acceptable C compiler found in$PATH
[09:28] <gaeshi> erick, yes, I have installed UBUNTU already
[09:28] <aftertaf> GillesR:  we'll make a backup first ;)
[09:28] <Chousuke> nightyticki: hm :/
[09:28] <aftertaf> GillesR:  cp xorg.conf xorg.backup
[09:28] <lightstar> gaeshi : :)
[09:29] <gaeshi> Chousuke, for example
[09:29] <N6REJ> aftertaf: blah blah blah run "dpkg --configure -a" to correct..... Same error as before
[09:29] <gaeshi> I have installed the system
[09:29] <erick> gaeshi, try to explore fist on your ubuntu,its similar to windows do you want this machine connected to internet
[09:29] <GillesR> aftertaf: done
[09:29] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  what does dpkg blah say??
[09:29] <gaeshi> now I want to type in Japanese, but I cannot
[09:30] <erick> aftertaf I gues its debian package manager
[09:30] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ok. cool.  Did you choose to open a 'root' terminal ??
[09:30] <aftertaf> erick:  that is borked on his system?
[09:30] <gaeshi> I have used Mandrake 10.1 before, and I didn"t have any problems typing Japanese
[09:30] <GillesR> aftertaf: At boot I have choose recovery boot
[09:30] <brownie17> does anyone know where i can get some extra themes?
[09:30] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ohhhh :O   ok
[09:31] <gaeshi> Now if I choose "Japanese"- it types only KATAKANA and nothing else
[09:31] <aftertaf> GillesR:  best be VERY careful then ;)
[09:31] <Chousuke> hmm, rute's here: http://rute.2038bug.com/
[09:31] <Chousuke> but it covers quite advanced topics
[09:31] <GillesR> aftertaf: I follow you like a blind
[09:31] <aftertaf> GillesR:  you have an editor called nano, and one called pico. Do you know either?
[09:31] <gaeshi> Chousuke, thx
[09:31] <N6REJ> aftertaf: ok, running dpkg config solved the problem.. its upgrading dist now.
[09:32] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  cool ;)
[09:32] <GillesR> aftertaf: nano run
[09:32] <Chousuke> gaeshi: you may need to look at other tutorials before you're ready for rute
[09:32] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ok....   nano & pico is the same thing anyway :)
[09:32] <aftertaf> GillesR:  we'll edit your xorg.conf file.
[09:32] <epic_> brownie17, look at themes.gnome.org, www.gnome-lok.org, themes.freshmeat.net   and google it, there are laods of places
[09:32] <N6REJ> aftertaf: the other night I tried that a million times.. but didn't manually change the sources.list file first.... I bet that was the entire problem *sigh*
[09:32] <aftertaf> GillesR:  nano xorg.conf
[09:32] <N6REJ> aftertaf: we'll see what happens now.
[09:32] <Chousuke> gaeshi: but if you're not interested in that much technical stuff, at least read the stuff it says about the command line and shell scripting :)
[09:32] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  hehe shit happens to all of us  man :)
[09:33] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  CD a bit borked, you're now online, should be 3 times as fine ;)
[09:33] <gaeshi> Chousuke, the command line and shell scripting, ok
[09:33] <GillesR> aftertaf: done. I see header of file
[09:33] <Chousuke> gaeshi: they're really nice tools after you get to know them.
[09:33] <vladuz976> anybody know how to install skype in breezy. with apt it complains about a missing depency which i think only changed the name in breezy
[09:34] <bob2> vladuz976: get the tarball instead
[09:34] <nightyticki> vladuz976: if its name is the problem create a symlynk..
[09:34] <gaeshi> Chousuke, are you using Japanese under ubuntu?
[09:34] <N6REJ> aftertaf: yep, linux has taught me that for sure.  I'm a little surprised that the format difference between a 700mb cdrw and a straight 700mb cdr is enough to confuse the cdrom drive.  Just shows how old the poor girl is.
[09:34] <bob2> vladuz976: and it was more than a name change
[09:34] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ok. Cool..... Go down until you see a section calles Screen
[09:34] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  hardwear :)
[09:34] <anthony> Since some people have come in and out, I'll try this again:  Does anyone know which file determines what programs are started on startup?  Currently I have Gaim opening when I start, and I'd like to remove that line, but I don't remember the file.
[09:35] <Chousuke> gaeshi: I was, yes. Currently I don't have a PC so I'm not running ubuntu, though.
[09:35] <vladuz976> bob2: there is gonna be no working skype in the repos?
[09:35] <nightyticki> anthony: find out in the gaim conf file..
[09:35] <brownie17> who here is familiar with Xfce? in synaptic should i download "Xfce" or Xfce4"?
[09:35] <aftertaf> skype is separate...
[09:35] <nightyticki> everything is in the conf..
[09:35] <epic_> anthony, system, preferences, sessions
[09:35] <gaeshi> Chousuke, I am unable to type Japanese - it only inputs katakana
[09:35] <Chousuke> gaeshi: in gnome you pretty much only need a japanese input module and fonts.
[09:35] <m00se> i'm trying to install hoary on amd64 machine (nforce4, sata disk). the kernell oopses and dpkg segfaults during installation of the base system.
[09:35] <Chousuke> what input module have you installed?
[09:35] <GillesR> aftertaf: i see 2 Subsection "display" with depth 1 for first 4 for second, then modes are "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[09:35] <m00se> did anyonye here have similar problems?
[09:35] <gaeshi> Chousuke, and the japanese input module is not included, is it?
[09:35] <irvin> brownie17, xfce4
[09:36] <Chousuke> it can be installed.
[09:36] <N6REJ> aftertaf: If you see a little 13 yr old boy come running up and give ya a big kiss, thats my son!  He just turned 13 yesterday and has been begging for a machine of his own to play COD on, and I was gonna have to give'm the p2 since I wasn't having any luck getting UBUNTU running on it, but now that it is, he gets an Athlon XP 1700+ :D
[09:36] <gaeshi> Chousuke, I have got no idea
[09:36] <anthony> epic_: It gets listed in the current session, but not startup programs.  Yet it still starts.
[09:36] <bob2> vladuz976: if you want skype in ubuntu, the skype people need to let ubuntu include it
[09:36] <Chousuke> gaeshi: see if you can install im-ja-canna from universe
[09:36] <sifl_> hi, i'm very new to all of this. my friend gave me this box with hoary on it and i'm trying to use it as a print server, but my printer comes with a software bundle not a driver, i have it working on this box with hoary, but i want to share it with my laptop running xp, is there a way to foward a usb port or something?
[09:36] <epic_> anthony, do you have it running when you log out?
[09:37] <loststryk> morning all; can sometone tell me why 5.10 on a install always fubars when trying to installinitrd-tools ? i downloaded the iso 3 times now; same thing on every one..... however 5.04 works fine; any suggestions ?
[09:37] <logikal_> http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/385963
[09:37] <gaeshi> Chousuke, is there any way how to see if I have installed the module?
[09:37] <logikal_> anyone can take a look, trying to install window decorations
[09:37] <Chousuke> gaeshi: there are many types of modules.
[09:37] <anthony> epic_: Not sure.  What would that do?
[09:37] <Chousuke> or rather, many different modules for japanese input
[09:37] <Jedrick> how to check if my kernel supperts ipv6?
[09:37] <GillesR> aftertaf: oops there are more lines
[09:38] <gaeshi> Chousuke, I have been using Canna under Mandrake
[09:38] <Chousuke> right-click on a text box and select "input method" from the context menu and see what the Japanese option is called.
[09:38] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ok.... you can remove the "1024x768" parts on each line....
[09:38] <epic_> anthony,   might be stored with 'save current setup' if you have it on
[09:38] <Jedrick> how to check if my kernel supports ipv6?
[09:38] <epic_> im only guessing thogh, sorry
[09:39] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  thanks... :) glad for both of you, man.
[09:39] <Chousuke> gaeshi: it might be for example "uim" or "SCIM"
[09:39] <N6REJ> loststryk: I was having the same problem... are you using a cdrw?
[09:39] <sifl_> is there a way to share a usb port over a network?
[09:39] <GillesR> aftertaf: done
[09:39] <fek> moin
[09:39] <anthony> epic_: Meaning if I logged out with that deselected, it shouldn't be up next time?
[09:39] <loststryk> dvd / dc writre
[09:39] <Chousuke> sifl_: I doubt it.
[09:39] <N6REJ> UHOH>>>> Computer just spouted weather alert!
[09:39] <epic_> anthony,   I would give it a go
[09:39] <gaeshi> Chousuke, nope there isnt
[09:39] <GillesR> aftertaf: I suppose Ctrl O the reboot ?
[09:39] <Chousuke> hmm
[09:40] <epic_> Jedrick,     ubuntu default kernels do   have a look at ifconfig
[09:40] <Chousuke> gaeshi: how do you turn on japanese input?
[09:40] <loststryk> ugh brb
[09:40] <epic_> ie: sudo ifconfig    (see if any interfaces have an ipv6 address
[09:40] <Chousuke> sifl_: but it might be possible to share the device plugged in with USB
[09:40] <epic_> )
[09:40] <aftertaf> GillesR:  better to reboot, yes. you were in recovery mode (i think)
[09:40] <gaeshi> Chousuke, so I go to
[09:40] <Jedrick> epic_:  i do ifconfig but i dont see any ipv6 in there
[09:40] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  where for?
[09:40] <gaeshi> Chousuke, System --> Preferences --> Keyboard
[09:40] <N6REJ> aftertaf: Murray, Ia
[09:40] <rafa> todo en English??
[09:41] <oca> i missed the answer: waht minimum hardware requirements that would satisfactorily run ubuntu?
[09:41] <epic_> Jedrick,   join #jed a sec
[09:41] <aftertaf> Murray, Ia     indiana?
[09:41] <gaeshi> Chousuke, under that there is a tab "Layouts". I add "Japanese"
[09:41] <aftertaf> GillesR:  Ca a march?
[09:41] <gaeshi> Chousuke, after that I go to Application --> Accessories --> Text editor
[09:42] <sifl_> Chousuke: that's my problem i'm trying to share a HP printer, but the printer came with a software bundle not a driver, there is no driver for it
[09:42] <N6REJ> aftertaf: no, Iowa... its 36 Degrees outside right now, and going to hit 27 at least 2nite.
[09:42] <GillesR> aftertaf: it's rebooting ...
[09:42] <N6REJ> aftertaf: That means the end of farm crops for this season!
[09:42] <gaeshi> Chousuke, when I'm switching to Japanese, only Katakana appears
[09:42] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  ok i dont know the abbrevs. ;)
[09:42] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ok cool ;
[09:42] <Chousuke> gaeshi: ah, you just made your keyboard japanese. You need an input method for kanji conversion
[09:43] <dmlinux> Can you mount a USB to install drivers ?
[09:43] <N6REJ> aftertaf: Sorry, forgot... ok, that completed successfully!! YAHOOOOO.... so now try apt-get -f upgrade?
[09:43] <gaeshi> Chousuke, I see.
[09:43] <rafa> Hola algn usuario hispanoparlante?
[09:43] <sifl_> Chousuke: the printer works great with the hpijs driver, but that won't work for windows, so i either need my laptop to detect the printer and see through the hoary box, or i need to find a way to get the hpijs driver to work with windows
[09:43] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  hehe what completed ok? so much has scrolled since :)
[09:43] <dmlinux> Anyone here have Microsoft Intellimouse for bluetooth??
[09:44] <aftertaf> !es
[09:44] <rafa> hola? hola?
[09:44] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:44] <GillesR> aftertaf: :( my screen is still expanded
[09:44] <rafa> ok
[09:44] <rafa> gracias
[09:44] <N6REJ> sifl_: hpijs?
[09:44] <Chousuke> sifl_: share it with samba
[09:44] <dmlinux> Anyone here have Microsoft Intellimouse for bluetooth??
[09:44] <N6REJ> aftertaf: yeah, now what?
[09:45] <aftertaf> GillesR:  oh dear....   Maybe VMware driver being a problem.... I dont know how to help you wth that... :/
[09:45] <anthony> Sorry about that, I had some issues for a moment...
[09:45] <gaeshi> Chousuke, what is 'universe' repository?
[09:45] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade completed?
[09:45] <gaeshi> everybody, what is 'universe' repository??
[09:45] <Chousuke> gaeshi: it's a set of not officially supported free software.
[09:45] <N6REJ> aftertaf: yep
[09:45] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop :)
[09:45] <Chousuke> !universe
[09:45] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[09:45] <Chousuke> !repositories
[09:46] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[09:46] <gaeshi> !universe
[09:46] <GillesR> aftertaf: thnks for all. I think I kill this virtual session and reinstall another. I will be more watchfull now. Thanks again
[09:46] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  check the repositories link too.... enable universe & multiverse :)
[09:46] <gaeshi> Chousuke, thanks!
[09:46] <N6REJ> aftertaf:  I did :D
[09:46] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ok... or grab one from work that isnt used much :)
[09:47] <N6REJ> aftertaf: "invalid operation ubuntu-desktop"
[09:47] <anthony> By the way though, that involved rebooting, and Gaim still opened.
[09:47] <GillesR> aftertaf: buy see U soon. ;)
[09:47] <GillesR> bye
[09:47] <N6REJ> aftertaf: apt-get -f ubuntu-desktop ??
[09:47] <anthony> That's to epic_ by the way.
[09:48] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  nope
[09:48] <N6REJ> hmmmmmm
[09:48] <Chousuke> gaeshi: you may want to try this: http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[09:48] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-desktop
[09:48] <Chousuke> you can skip installing scim-tables-zh and -ko and -hangul though
[09:49] <N6REJ> aftertaf:  ah, ok... that makes sense.
[09:49] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  hehe thx :)
[09:49] <N6REJ> aftertaf: apt-get takes the place of CPAN I see
[09:49] <aftertaf> GillesR:  pas de souci man ;)   quand tu veux.
[09:49] <sifl_> Chousuke: how do i do that?
[09:49] <aftertaf> CPAN?
[09:49] <loststryk> sorry back
[09:50] <loststryk> can sometone tell me why 5.10 on a install always fubars when trying to installinitrd-tools ? i downloaded the iso 3 times now; same thing on every one..... however 5.04 works fine; any suggestions ?
[09:50] <Chousuke> sifl_: install samba first, then configure it
[09:50] <Chousuke> google for info, I don't know
[09:50] <N6REJ> aftertaf: CPAN is the perl repository and such that will auto-update/install any perl packages/modules/tidbits you might need... very very cool
[09:50] <aftertaf> loststryk:  fubars how?     have you checked the MD5 checksum thing?
[09:50] <loststryk> yes the cd's are fine
[09:50] <N6REJ> sifl_: what is hijs?
[09:51] <Chousuke> N6REJ: it's a cups printer driver
[09:51] <loststryk> it just gets to unpacking then installing then it red screens and says it can't initrd-tools could not be installed
[09:51] <aftertaf> ok..... N6REJ .    apt is the best thing ever in the history of everything.....
[09:51] <luckyaba> what program should i get to extract .zip files?
[09:51] <N6REJ> luckyaba: only one I've ever used is gunzip
[09:51] <aftertaf> loststryk:  sounds like a big bad bug. Have you checked to see, or filed one?
[09:52] <epic_> anthony,   I have no idea...    someone else might be able to help.
[09:52] <N6REJ> loststryk: I had the same problem... are you using a cdrw?
[09:52] <aftertaf> loststryk:  why not *for now* install 5.04 then add ther 5.10 CD ns an apt source ?
[09:52] <loststryk> yes i am using a cd/dvd writer
[09:52] <sifl_> Chousuke: is there a way to get cups to work on a windows box?
[09:52] <anthony> epic_: Thanks for trying.  Anyone else??
[09:52] <loststryk> aftertaf : i have no iea where or how to
[09:52] <epic_> anthony, you will have to state your question again
[09:52] <N6REJ> loststryk: try a straight cdr... I had to change to that to get 5.04 to install.
[09:52] <aftertaf> loststryk:  we do..... thats why youre here ;)
[09:52] <N6REJ> loststryk: I haven't tried 5.10 yet that way.
[09:53] <loststryk> i dont have a straight cdrom, 5.04 works fine though
[09:53] <aftertaf> ok. loststryk can you install 04 ?
[09:53] <N6REJ> loststryk: no, I meant the media type.   Ok, then there is likely a BAD bug in 5.10 install cause I had the same exact error
[09:53] <loststryk> yeah 5.04 and below is fine
[09:54] <loststryk> if i install 5.04 can i upgrade to 5.10 easily ?
[09:54] <Jedrick> how to check free space on my disk
[09:54] <aftertaf> loststryk:  if you have a standard CD-R, try burning 5.10 to it, instead of a CDRW (like N6REJ said)
[09:54] <loststryk> jedediah type df -h in a terminal
[09:54] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  df -h
[09:54] <sifl_> Chousuke: i already have samba, how do i configure it?
[09:54] <aftertaf> :)
[09:54] <Jedrick> ok
[09:54] <jedediah> loststryk: Why?
[09:54] <loststryk> i tried cd-r and cd-rw
[09:54] <sifl_> Chousuke: nevermind, i'll look that up online
[09:54] <loststryk> jedediah wrong person sorry
[09:54] <anthony> I am wondering if anyone knows which file contains information about programs/processes to be run on startup.  Right now when I log in, Gaim starts automatically, and I would like to remove this.  I believe the file contains things such as order (i.e. 50) and command (in this case gaim).  I have seen it before, but do not remember its location or name.  Does anyone know?
[09:55] <aftertaf> loststryk:  oki..... install hoary, then once installed.... you can upgrade via net, or with the 5.10 CD.
[09:55] <loststryk> i meant Jedrick
[09:55] <N6REJ> anthony: I'm new to ubuntu but is it /etc/rc3.d ?
[09:55] <bob2> anthony: system, preferences, session
[09:55] <aftertaf> loststryk:  and we can help you if you have pbs doing that...
[09:55] <loststryk> ok will give that a bash aftertaf
[09:55] <Gimp|> hey
[09:55] <aftertaf> looooooooool. nice pun dude loststryk
[09:55] <loststryk> :p
[09:55] <anthony> N6REJ: I'll check.
[09:55] <Gimp|> how can i play mp3 files in ubuntu?
[09:56] <anthony> bob2: It doesn't show up under startup there.
[09:56] <jedediah> Gimp|: Check the wiki, they have a good set of instructions
[09:56] <aftertaf> Gimp|:  ^^^^^
[09:56] <jedediah> wiki.ubuntu.org IIRC
[09:56] <aftertaf> loststryk:  itll work ;)
[09:56] <Gimp|> kk
[09:56] <bob2> Gimp|: /msg ubotu restricted
[09:57] <anthony> N6REJ: Any suggestions on which file is likely?
[09:58] <N6REJ> anthony: uh, NO! LOL, I think I remember reading that ubuntu uses run level 3 so that should be the dir, but it could be in another.... in the fog of my brain I seem to remember a  "service" command ???
[09:58] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  its actually level 2 .... iirc
[09:59] <anthony> N6REJ: Do you have any more detail on this "service" command?  (What it was for, where it is, etc.)
[09:59] <N6REJ> hang on, let me try to shake some cobwebs off of my rusty brain... ..../runs for a cig/
[10:00] <aftertaf> anthony:  you are talking about /etc/init.d/ and the scripts symlinked there by the different runlevels?
[10:00] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[10:00] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[10:00] <aftertaf> !cigarette N6REJ
[10:00] <ubotu> Wish i knew, aftertaf
[10:00] <anthony> aftertaf: Don't know.
[10:00] <epic_> I can't see gaim being launched from there
[10:00] <aftertaf> anthony:  cos in your case its gaim opening every gnome session startup, right?
[10:00] <epic_> err gm
[10:01] <anthony> N6REJ: btw, I found the entry for another program (that I want to run on startup) in /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
[10:01] <anthony> aftertaf: Yes.
[10:01] <aftertaf> anthony:  its not the runlevel initscripts things..... it is in a .gnome file in your home dir
[10:01] <N6REJ> anthony: /etc/rc.d/rc.local is for PERSONAL startups... always a good place to look... check rc.2 also
[10:02] <aftertaf> dunno which one exactly, but it'll be a hidden file /home/anthony/.[something] , maybe with rc at the end.....
[10:02] <Gimp|> woot
[10:02] <Gimp|> that worked
[10:02] <Gimp|> thx :)
[10:02] <aftertaf> w00t :)
[10:02] <Gimp|> 1 more question
[10:02] <aftertaf> there always is.... ;)
[10:02] <propagandhi> well i hope you can all pity me
[10:03] <Gimp|> how do i install cedega on ubuntu? :P
[10:03] <N6REJ> aftertaf: installing the desktop caused a seg fault! OUCH
[10:03] <N6REJ> aftertaf: redoing dpkg config *sigh*
[10:03] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  erf!
[10:03] <allan_> hey, is it a common problem not to be able to compile and install the nvidia driver on breezy, even when CC is set to gcc-3.4?
[10:03] <aftertaf> Gimp|:  you purchase it and dpkg -i the .deb you buy.....
[10:04] <anthony> aftertaf: I have in my home directory: .gaim, .gconf, .gconfd, .gnome, .gnome2, .gnome2_private.
[10:04] <aftertaf> allan_:  yep... use restricted moules instead, you have a precomiled one. You dont need to use the NVIDIA.run one....
[10:04] <Gimp|> someone said you could get it free
[10:04] <Gimp|> legally
[10:04] <Gimp|> you cant?
[10:05] <aftertaf> anthony:  ask uncle google about gnome startup files, if noone here can help (i use kde so i cant help more than that)
[10:05] <aftertaf> Gimp|:  iirc, no. but i can be wrong ;)
[10:05] <nightyticki> epic_: try inittab
[10:05] <Gimp|> k
[10:05] <Gimp|> what about wine?
[10:05] <all4n> aftertaf: could you tell me how to use the restricted modules?
[10:05] <Gimp|> how would i get that on here?
[10:05] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  that sux man...... what caused the segfault
[10:06] <N6REJ> aftertaf: let me try to find out.
[10:06] <aftertaf> all4n:  you install them via apt, then you set "nvidia" as your display driver in xorg.conf.... thats all.
[10:06] <anthony> aftertaf: I'll give it a shot.
[10:06] <all4n> aftertaf: rocks!  thanks  :)
[10:06] <aftertaf> wow....... i'm helping ppl this morning :) this is cool.
[10:06] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[10:06] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[10:06] <epic_> nightyticki,     for?
[10:06] <aftertaf> brb
[10:07] <all4n> aftertaf: hehe
[10:09] <sifl_> anyone ever heard of adobe post script manager?
[10:12] <dodgyville> If my adsl modem wasn't being automatically detected and switched on by ubuntu, is there some "pon"-style command I can use?
[10:12] <Shin_Gouki> good morning ubunut community!
[10:12] <commodore> hi
[10:12] <all4n> Shin_Gouki: morning
[10:12] <Shin_Gouki> :)
[10:13] <commodore> i'm a new ubuntu user but i'm not here for help currently
[10:13] <commodore> i just wanted to try out x-chat
[10:13] <Shin_Gouki> xchat is cool
[10:13] <commodore> seems so
[10:13] <commodore> :D
[10:13] <Shin_Gouki> :D
[10:13] <all4n> man.. I still can't get the Nvidia driver to work..  it's still complaining that my kernel module is 7174, while the driver is 7667.  Any other solutions?
[10:13] <Shin_Gouki> infact those IRcchannels here are amazing!
[10:14] <Shin_Gouki> all4n , what Nv card?
[10:14] <commodore> why is everything in ubuntu (gnome?) AA-d?
[10:14] <tristanmike> good night all
[10:14] <all4n> Shin_Gouki: Geforce4 something
[10:14] <Shin_Gouki> commodore: it si NOT , im running Icewm :)
[10:15] <Shin_Gouki> all4n , explain a bit in detail ur install of the system and WHAts not running what u want to get running
[10:15] <N6REJ> aftertaf: dpkg caused the seg fault
[10:15] <commodore> i'd like to try out kubuntu too but i don't want to make more entries to the grub list
[10:15] <commodore> i'll do it someday anyways
[10:15] <Shin_Gouki> commodore
[10:16] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, try icewm its even more cool , then KDE!!
[10:17] <Shin_Gouki> hi anyone here who knows icewm?
[10:17] <commodore> i know icewm because i just googled it :D
[10:18] <Shin_Gouki> commodore
[10:18] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, u know what even better is for THAT kind of research then google?
[10:18] <bob2> freshmeat.net
[10:19] <commodore> linux google?
[10:20] <thebigearl> hi !
[10:20] <commodore> hi
[10:20] <all4n> thebigearl: hey
[10:20] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, wikipedia
[10:20] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, go for it
[10:20] <thebigearl> is it possible to pre-order some ubuntu 5.10 cd's ?
[10:20] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, I've been using icewm for a few days
[10:21] <commodore> why are so many linux sites .org ?
[10:21] <all4n> Shin_Gouki: did you get my message?  I tried to send you the details through /msg, to avoid putting up a too big post on the channel
[10:21] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, thats nice!
[10:21] <Chousuke> commodore: because they're not commercial
[10:21] <Chousuke> but rather organisations.
[10:21] <commodore> com is for commercial?
[10:21] <Chousuke> yes.
[10:21] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, wikipedia plz type in icewm in wikipedia!
[10:21] <commodore> and org is for organisation?
[10:21] <thebigearl> jepp
[10:21] <Chousuke> .commercial, .network, .organisation
[10:21] <Shin_Gouki> right
[10:21] <commodore> i'm doing it right now
[10:21] <gaeshi> .government .military
[10:22] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, do u know how to switch the background image?
[10:22] <Chousuke> and others.
[10:22] <bob2> .internationale
[10:23] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, well, it was easy, but i don't have icewm on my box right now
[10:23] <commodore> where can i find icewm screenshots?
[10:23] <gaeshi> icewm_theme
[10:23] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, there was a tool to switch icewm_theme
[10:23] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, or how do i create my own shortscuts on taskbar? do u have good tutorial site?
[10:23] <thebigearl> can i pre-order breezy badger cds anywhere ?
[10:24] <commodore> theme screenshots are bad :(
[10:24] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, I was using VineLinux
[10:24] <N6REJ> aftertaf: apititude is working now :D  it is doing what dpkg won't.  I think dpkg maybe got a bad lib file in the process.. we'll see if aptitude finishs neatly.
[10:24] <barongas> What's the easiest way to format a secondary harddrive I have plugged to my sweet ubuntu box?
[10:25] <gaeshi> http://www.icewm.org/themes/
[10:25] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, http://www.icewm.org/themes/
[10:25] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, is VineLinux a ICE WM coinfig tool?
[10:26] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, VineLinux is a distro
[10:27] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, it is a Red-Hat based Linux made by some Japanese developers
[10:27] <commodore> is "high definition audi controller" basicly the sound card?
[10:27] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, hm i see, i am just looking for an icewm config tool , preferbly GUI
[10:28] <commodore> the device manager in ubuntu is crazy, all those numbers and stuff, i can't understand it, windows device manager was easy
[10:28] <Pickle_Weasel> what country is ubuntu based in?
[10:28] <commodore> is "high definition audi controller" basicly the sound card?
[10:29] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, did u tried the wikipedia?
[10:29] <commodore> yes
[10:29] <Shin_Gouki> :)
[10:29] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, try #icewm channel
[10:29] <commodore> i tried it for icewm not other stuff
[10:30] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, thx!!1
[10:30] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, commodore u will find beter infos then on gooogle! bnecause its more precise!
[10:31] <commodore> i don't have sound on ubuntu and my comp is intel (i386 or how do people say to it)
[10:31] <commodore> everything works on windows
[10:31] <commodore> and I'm quite sure that live cd worked too
[10:31] <Nadien> hi
[10:31] <Nadien> i am prostitute
[10:32] <Jedrick> How to enable javascript on my browser
[10:32] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, there is a tool icecc
[10:32] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, icecc means IceWM Control Center
[10:32] <Nadien> have sex
[10:32] <Pickle_Weasel> !tell Jedrick about java
[10:32] <commodore> XD nadien
[10:33] <Nadien> hi
[10:33] <Nadien> yeah
[10:33] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, and there are lots of themes for icewm on sourceforge/freshmeat
[10:33] <Nadien> i am prostitute
[10:34] <gaeshi> Nadien, cool!
[10:34] <ver> hi there! i found a bug in breezy rc1. i tried to commit a bug report to bugzilla but it doesnt support image uploads since i only took a picture of the bug. what to do?
[10:34] <bob2> it supports attachments
[10:35] <brownie17> can somone tell me how to set up keyboard shortcuts on xfce?
[10:35] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, do u have website about icecc?
[10:36] <brownie17> irvin, do you know anything about keyboard shortcuts on xfce?
[10:36] <Nadien> want sex free?
[10:36] <sherman> for all those who care, i am updating to breezy's packages using the wiki in the topic....
[10:36] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki http://icecc.sourceforge.net/
[10:36] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, tank u so much!
[10:37] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, welcome!
[10:37] <Nadien> want sex free?
[10:37] <ompaul> sherman, enjoy
[10:37] <aftertaf> Nadien:  leave please
[10:37] <gaeshi> Nadien, sure!
[10:37] <aftertaf> thx bob2  :)
[10:37] <sherman> hopefully ompaul
[10:37] <ompaul> bob2, :)
[10:37] <aftertaf> if i may, twat!!!!!
[10:37] <gaeshi> :))))
[10:37] <brownie17> bob2, :)
[10:38] <commodore> are there any apps for linux that show the stuff my box has? i'm sure there's plenty
[10:38] <bob2> commodore: where stuff = ?
[10:38] <ompaul> commodore, there are [I could leave it there]  synapatic is one way
[10:38] <ompaul> commodore, can you be more specific about what stuff is
[10:39] <commodore> hard drive, graphics card, sound card, processor
[10:39] <commodore> i know device manager but i don't like it
[10:40] <brownie17> where can i find a menu in xfce similiar to the "computer" window in gnome
[10:40] <melvztechie> hello guys, I just tried installing Java fo FF using synp and manual install, enabled already FF 4 java support, but still no luck to get it workin?
[10:40] <melvztechie> whats the proper way to setup java for firefox?
[10:40] <aftertaf> !java
[10:40] <ubotu> I guess java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[10:41] <brownie17> is there another support channel specific to xfce problems?
[10:43] <melvztechie> ubotu: okey ill check on that, tanks!!!
[10:43] <ubotu> melvztechie: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:43] <commodore> help me please
[10:43] <commodore> i don't have a clue how to call an app like that but i have seen them before on windows
[10:44] <bob2> I don't know of any on linux
[10:44] <bob2> what do you want it for?
[10:44] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i install qt on my ubuntu?
[10:44] <commodore> i wanna know what stuff i have on my comp
[10:45] <commodore> i could do it throw windows but i don't want to
[10:45] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: that's not your real question, tell us what you're trying to do
[10:45] <bob2> commodore: that's a shame
[10:45] <cypa> Hi
[10:45] <commodore> is it benchmark?
[10:46] <commodore> is it called *
[10:46] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 i tried to install icecc a control center for icewm but then it said: icecc: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:46] <cypa>   ?
[10:46] <cypa> is there anybody speaking russian
[10:46] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, whats ur prob waht ur looking for?
[10:46] <cypa> ?
[10:46] <Shin_Gouki> english i guess
[10:46] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: packages.ubuntu.com will tell you what file that is in
[10:46] <commodore> i'm learning russian in school but very bad
[10:46] <derFlo> commodore? do you want something like the "Device Manager"?
[10:47] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: hint: libqt3c102-mt
[10:47] <commodore> ja ne gavarju po russki
[10:47] <commodore> yes derFlo
[10:47] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, ur speaking not "easy" engough to me
[10:47] <commodore> exactly
[10:47] <derFlo> and you have ubuntu?
[10:47] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, is this " libqt3c102-mt" a pkg i need to install via apt-get?
[10:47] <LethAL> Shin_Gouki, try libqt3
[10:47] <cypa> commodore, Russian is cool
[10:48] <commodore> i have ubuntu
[10:48] <Shin_Gouki> LethAL , whats the apt-get isntall command?
[10:48] <LethAL> Shin_Gouki, Or it might be lib-qt3-dev or similar
[10:48] <derFlo> it is in system->sysconfig->devices (i have a german system, so i have to guess the names)?
[10:48] <LethAL> apt-cache search qt3
[10:48] <cypa> but I am interesting about russian locale for Thunderbird Ubuntu package
[10:48] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: indeed
[10:48] <bob2> LethAL: that won't work
[10:48] <Shin_Gouki> why?
[10:48] <commodore> i want something like the device manager not it
[10:49] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: because it doesn't contain that file
[10:49] <olicat> hi all. in openoffice (breezy) i'm trying to get a presentation printed, with two slides and their notes on one page. can't get it working though, any ideas where i set that up?
[10:49] <derFlo> commodore. what is the difference between it and the device manager?
[10:49] <propagandhi> commodore: go back to windows
[10:49] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 ok i try now ur search suggest
[10:50] <derFlo> it is even called "device manager"!!!
[10:50] <brownie17> who knows anything about xfce?
[10:50] <LethAL> olicat, you have to install the printer in System > Administration > Printers
[10:50] <rob^> #xfce
[10:50] <commodore> :D again i'm speaking so bad noone can understand me correctly
[10:50] <olicat> LethAL, i've got the printer working, but ooo only prints one slide per page
[10:50] <commodore> ok i'm leaving the channel now, i'll be back sometime this year :P
[10:51] <LethAL> Hmm...
[10:51] <LethAL> Well I've never used OOo on Ubuntu...
[10:51] <derFlo> hmmm
[10:51] <osfameron> OOo is slightly less horrid on ubuntu than it is on windows
[10:52] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, im too clumsy for that search engine :/ is this my keyword:   libqt-mt.so.3 ..?
[10:52] <Jedrick> how to make scripts executable
[10:52] <lightstar> chmod 700 <sctipsname>
[10:52] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: yes
[10:52] <rob^> I dunno, OOo does the basics pretty well
[10:53] <LethAL> Woah... blank DVD+R through the post... groovay
[10:53] <rob^> some interface qurks sure..
[10:53] <LethAL> Shae I don't have a DVD burner...
[10:53] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, but the search string must be incomplete it didn't find anything what else do i have to specify??
[10:54] <sifl_> anyone know of a way to get cups or foomatic to work on a windows machine?
[10:54] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: scroll down. you want the package contents search page
[10:55] <sifl_> this is rediculous, this printer is easy to configure over a network with linux, but next to impossible with windows xp :'(
[10:55] <rob^> lucky you sifl_
[10:55] <YeTr2> sifl_, windows printing to cups? easy.
[10:56] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, there was 2 results, showing the file and 2 diffrent paths...what now?
[10:57] <derFlo> sifl_: IPP ?
[10:57] <sifl_> it's my printer, the hpijs driver can be used to have it print over a network, but the software bundle it came with, that installs the printer w/o a driver can't print over a network
[10:57] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: ?
[10:57] <YeTr2> any documentation on setting up nvidia stuff for 5.10 ?
[10:57] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: it told you the package name to install
[10:57] <Hobbsee> !nvidia
[10:57] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:58] <derFlo> sifl_: although you are on a ubuntu channel, i'd help you on a private chan
[10:58] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 im very clumsy i found also the package name..but what is the command for installing it?
[10:58] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: you've really never installed a package on ubuntu before?
[10:59] <cypa> about ATI driver in ubuntu hoary
[10:59] <YeTr2> sifl_, which way of printing are you talking about? windows>linux or linux>windows ?
[10:59] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 , only with apt-get?
[10:59] <cypa> it doesn't work
[10:59] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: then use apt-get
[10:59] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 , im using ubuntu for 3  days no 5 days
[10:59] <cypa> on ASUS Pundit-R barabone
[10:59] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  apt is good for the soul
[10:59] <bettong_BOFH> i've been useing it sence april and i am glad i chose it
[11:00] <stjepan> hello
[11:00] <stjepan> may I use debian repositories?
[11:00] <aftertaf> bettong_BOFH:  good for you dude ;)
[11:00] <bob2> stjepan: no
[11:00] <LethAL> I've been using it for about 3-4 weeks :-)
[11:00] <LethAL> :P
[11:00] <bettong_BOFH> definatly an awsome os ^_^
[11:00] <aftertaf> Stje ad idea
[11:00] <Hobbsee> stjepan: what for?
[11:00] <sifl_> windows>linux
[11:00] <Hobbsee> stjepan: as in, some stuff works, some doesnt, i think is the answer
[11:00] <derFlo> sifl_: Cups is using IPP.
[11:00] <LethAL> Nice sarcasm sifl_
[11:00] <dazed> lo
[11:01] <derFlo> so you have to add an so-called TCP/IP-Port
[11:01] <derFlo> good luck
[11:01] <sifl_> i just don't get it, everything is set up on the linux side, and my windows machine can see the printer, i just can't find a network driver for it
[11:02] <YeTr2> sifl_, don't bother with installing the bundled junk from the printer. use the Generic/M$ Image Letter driver that has been included with every version of windows wince 98se and print via cups, not samba
[11:02] <YeTr2> sifl_, and just as a note, acrobat reader 6.0+ doesn't work printing over to a cups server for me
[11:03] <CaiN_SA> is skype in multiverse ?
[11:03] <Jedrick> how to make a script executable?
[11:03] <Jedrick> can someone help me
[11:03] <dooglus> I think I've found a firefox bug.  Could someone try this link and tell me if it crashes firefox please?  http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/crash.htm
[11:03] <Hobbsee> !chmod
[11:03] <LethAL> !tell Jedrick about chmod
[11:03] <ubotu> hmm... chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[11:03] <sifl_> :'( it's sad when you start understanding linux more than windows
[11:03] <LethAL> Gah
[11:03] <brownie17> Jedrick, right click it and select properties
[11:03] <brownie17> Jedrick, then the permissions tab, then check all "execute" boxes
[11:03] <bob2> linux tends to make more sense
[11:03] <Jedrick> ok
[11:04] <LethAL> And not crash randomly
[11:04] <YeTr2> sifl_, http://localhost:631/ on the print server
[11:04] <brownie17> i don't think i'll ever understand linux properly
[11:04] <Hobbsee> dooglus: works here, but i'm not sure if adblock is affecting it
[11:04] <bettong_BOFH> the only time my box crashes is when the power go's out
[11:04] <dooglus> Hobbsee: did you click the link?
[11:04] <Hobbsee> yeah
[11:04] <Hobbsee> it opened in a new tab, clicked on that one
[11:04] <dooglus> Hobbsee: and then?
[11:04] <Hobbsee> brought back the same page
[11:05] <Hobbsee> kept clicking, kept bringing back the same page
[11:05] <dooglus> Hobbsee: thanks.  what version of the fox?
[11:05] <Hobbsee> no crashing at all
[11:05] <derFlo> sifl-: 1) Create a new "Internetport". 2) Use the built-in windows-drivers for you HPXXX 3) finish
[11:05] <Hobbsee> 1.0.7 in breezy i think
[11:06] <Hobbsee> yeah
[11:06] <dooglus> weird.  1.0.7 in breezy is what crashes for me.
[11:06] <YeTr2> sifl_, basically, you need the name of the printer you used on the linux box, so you can use the 'connect to a printer on the internet' option in windows, which accepts an entry like 'http://(printerserverip):631/printers/(printername)'
[11:06] <poyie> how to configure windows display to 1024x800
[11:06] <poyie> how to configure windows display to 1024x800?
[11:07] <sifl_> that part isn't my problem
[11:07] <sifl_> i can find the printer i can get all the way to where it asks for a driver
[11:07] <nikls> #join ubuntu-fr
[11:08] <gaeshi> please advise some good c/c++ source editor
[11:08] <gaeshi> !c
[11:08] <ubotu> gaeshi: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:08] <gaeshi> !script editor
[11:08] <ubotu> I don't know, gaeshi
[11:08] <YeTr2> sifl_, use the `generic/ MS ImageLetter driver`
[11:08] <dooglus> Hobbsee: could you try in a new profile?  (run 'firefox -p' to get the profile manager)
[11:08] <sifl_> where is that?
[11:08] <brownie17> xfce is stupid
[11:09] <Jeromee> does anyone know where I could find a list of RAID cards that are supported by ubuntu?
[11:09] <YeTr2> it should be under the Generic driver list
[11:09] <irvin> brownie17, why do you think that?
[11:09] <olicat> is openoffice just complete rubbish? i cant find a way of printing more than 1 slide per page + notes, AND it can't print without the filepath at the bottom.
[11:09] <brownie17> irvin, you cannot stretch the panel
[11:09] <irvin> sure you can
[11:10] <brownie17> irvin, how?
[11:10] <sifl_> my bad, don't know how i missed it
[11:10] <YeTr2> under manufacture, select generic
[11:10] <YeTr2> M$ Publisher ImageLetter
[11:10] <edward_> anybody here who can help with installing a jre on ubuntu ?
[11:11] <Hobbsee> dooglus: not currently, dinner here
[11:11] <sifl_> YeTr2: i hate windows...
[11:11] <sifl_> YeTr2: i found it
[11:11] <Hobbsee> !tell edward_ about java
[11:11] <YeTr2> cups accepts the output from that printer driver without any problem
[11:11] <YeTr2> don't know abou tsamba thou
[11:11] <dooglus> Hobbsee: ok.  I'll report it anyway, since it crashes for me in a clean profile.
[11:11] <brownie17> irvin, how?
[11:11] <Hobbsee> i can check in a while, after dinner, but not now
[11:11] <dooglus> where should I report it?  ubuntu or mozilla?
[11:11] <dazed> just did a net install of powerpc hoary, on it now but Firefox is having trouble connecting to sites, any ideas?
[11:12] <edward_> i have tried to follo the HOWTO in the forum but i can't find the "make-jpkg "
[11:12] <edward_> has anybody used it before ?
[11:12] <darksatanic> edward_: It's in the "java-package" package.
[11:12] <epic_> olicat, did you try selecting the range of pages to print?
[11:13] <olicat> epic_, just selecting 1 page at the moment
[11:13] <Jeromee> anyone?
[11:14] <brownie17> Jeromee, google
[11:14] <brownie17> does anyone know how to stretch the panel in XFCE
[11:15] <LethAL> I don't know, but I'd like to
[11:16] <epic_> olicat,    tried printing from the outline view?
[11:16] <epic_> ack  phone
[11:16] <epic_> bb
[11:16] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 how can i FASt switch my shell language to english? is it possible? i want to paste somewere an aeror message but my native language is german , so?
[11:17] <olicat> epic_, needs to be handouts
[11:17] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, paste it and we can see if we can figure out what the message is
[11:17] <Shin_Gouki> sec ompaul
[11:17] <freeflying> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugs/2005-July/066834.html
[11:18] <freeflying> anyone have met this
[11:18] <mvirkkil> Shin_Gouki: LANG=en_US.UFT-8
[11:18] <Shin_Gouki> ompaul, bob2 here we go: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2845
[11:19] <sifl_> the printer keeps teasing me and making sounds like it's gonna print, but then it stops
[11:19] <YeTr2> hmm
[11:19] <sifl_> the linux box says it's printing 1 page and the windows machine says it sent 1 page
[11:20] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin pleas
[11:20] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: you got that .deb from Debian?
[11:22] <Adri2000> hi
[11:22] <ompaul> 'lo
[11:22] <Shin_Gouki> ompual bob2 here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2846
[11:22] <Adri2000> i just want to know, how is defined the order of lauching scripts in /etc/rcS.d
[11:23] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 , yes debian is it problem?
[11:23] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: yes
[11:23] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: don't do that
[11:23] <sifl_> YeTr2: i'm printing directly to cups
[11:23] <Adri2000> because i have a script for wpa (wifi), and the networking script, i want wpa to be loaded before
[11:23] <bob2> Adri2000: why don't you just setup WPA out of /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:23] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, but i want to use that software...so now?
[11:24] <Adri2000> bob2: how should i do ?
[11:24] <melvztechie> This is so cool, Ubuntu so easy to install printer with HP Jetdirect, no flaw at all!!!
[11:24] <Adri2000> wpa mustn be laoded by sudo /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant start
[11:25] <YeTr2> brb
[11:25] <epic_> olicat,   have you asked in #openoffice.org   ?
[11:25] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, if i cant compile, is there any way..?
[11:25] <Jeromee> Is anyone running a raid card under ubuntu?
[11:26] <olicat> epic_, yeah, was completely ignored by everyone
[11:26] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: no
[11:26] <bob2> Jeromee: lots of people use real raid cards, yes
[11:27] <Skid> 3ware!
[11:27] <Skid> :_)
[11:27] <Jeromee> I'm just trying to find a Decent Raid card for ubuntu, one thats easily supported
[11:27] <Jeromee> any ideas?
[11:27] <Skid> use a 3ware
[11:27] <Skid> itshardware
[11:27] <Skid> so it's fine :)
[11:27] <bob2> Jeromee: 3ware make the only hardware IDE raid cards I've heard of
[11:28] <Skid> any 3ware practically is the market leader imo..
[11:28] <bob2> lots of companies make SCSI ones, and they should all work out of the box
[11:28] <Jeromee> so, any 3ware raid card, should work fine?
[11:28] <leaforest>      ~~
[11:28] <epic_> olicat,   how many slides do you want on each handout?
[11:29] <Yetr2> bah.... nvidia still isn't loading
[11:29] <bob2> leaforest: english, please
[11:29] <Skid> if it's a hardware card, its got it own interface anyway
[11:29] <Chousuke> leaforest: very few people here are able to see UTF-8, let alone read korean :P
[11:29] <sifl_> YeTr2: i don't know my cups user name and passwore
[11:29] <Skid> software raid isn't worth the cheap price to pay for it
[11:29] <Chousuke> The latter group includes me, so please use English :)
[11:29] <Adri2000> bob2: what should i put in /etc/network/interfaces to load wpasupplicant ?
[11:29] <Yetr2> sifl_, its your root account and it's password
[11:29] <olicat> epic_, 1 slide with notes. i get it printed, but it prints the file path and name, which obscures the notes
[11:30] <sifl_> Yetr2: it's not working
[11:30] <brownie17> Chousuke, i can see utf-8
[11:30] <brownie17> Chousuke, but korean is way over my head
[11:30] <Chousuke> hehe.
[11:30] <Chousuke> Me too :p
[11:31] <Yetr2> or atleast it should be...
[11:31] <Yetr2> gimmie a minute
[11:32] <shandar> oo
[11:32] <shandar> a swedish guy!
[11:32] <Chousuke> :P
[11:32] <Chousuke> I can speak some swedish ;P
[11:32] <shandar> haha
[11:32] <sifl_> i know very little danish
[11:32] <shandar> Well Chousuke, Hej! hur mr du?
[11:33] <ompaul> if it is gut I will be surprised
[11:33] <leaforest> everyone are using 5.10 rc?
[11:33] <erick> Guys email question just want to try ubuntu for my email server,what is the best MTA will i use
[11:33] <leaforest> 5.10rc?
[11:33] <leaforest> ??
[11:33] <leaforest> how can i check my hdd drive for bad sector??
[11:33] <ompaul> leaforest, no some people use fedora but a lot of people use it :)
[11:33] <loststryk> no am using 5.04
[11:34] <leaforest> ?
[11:34] <shandar> 5.04 here
[11:34] <Seveas> erick, I like courier but postfix is nice too
[11:34] <dooglus> leaforest: I'm using the current version.  There have been updates since the 1st rc
[11:34] <Yetr2> postfix or sendmail
[11:34] <sifl_> it's "Jeg elsker dig."
[11:34] <Chousuke> shandar: bra, tack. :P And that's about it
[11:34] <shandar> Chousuke, That's a start :P
[11:34] <sifl_> or at least that's the only one i can spell...
[11:35] <shandar> Chousuke, Where are you from?
[11:35] <Chousuke> Finland.
[11:35] <Yetr2> sifl_, this cups server using ubuntu?
[11:35] <shandar> Ah.
[11:35] <erick> seveas, I also use postfix but in my redhat, is postfix posible for ubuntu?if yes what packages will I use
[11:35] <sifl_> Yetr2: yes, hoary
[11:35] <Seveas> postfix is installed by default in Ubuntu
[11:35] <ompaul> leaforest, what error message are you getting that makes you think you might have that problem?
[11:36] <Chousuke> I never got to use swedish in real life.
[11:36] <Chousuke> only at school
[11:36] <erick> ah k, how will i know the version of postfix installed
[11:36] <Chousuke> which explains why I suck at using it.
[11:36] <claes> erick, dpkg -l postfix
[11:36] <Seveas> dpkg -l 'postfix*'
[11:37] <crimsun> (note that brand new installations of Breezy will lack postfix, or any MTA for that matter)
[11:37] <sifl_> yeah, my girlfriend wants me to go to denmark with her and meet her relatives and the only danish phrases i know are "i love you" and "ladybug" and i can't spell ladybug in danish
[11:37] <Yetr2> sifl_, I don't know how, but I guess ubuntu has changed cups more than I believed it could...
[11:37] <gaeshi> people
[11:37] <erick> claes, not installed
[11:38] <gaeshi> is there any MSDOS emulator?
[11:38] <shandar> btw, I've asked this before but no one has been able to answer me. Is there any way to force a resolution and refresh rate and simply ignore that the screen and vidcard will scream no? I know that the res works, but my screen doesn't officially support it...
[11:38] <Archer> gaeshi, install dosbox
[11:38] <claes> erick, sudo aptitude install postfix
[11:38] <Yetr2> sifl_, try using the gui tool and see what it says about jobs there
[11:38] <gaeshi> !dosbox
[11:38] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, gaeshi
[11:38] <Yetr2> gaeshi, dosbox
[11:38] <Seveas> !info dosbox
[11:38] <ubotu> dosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB
[11:38] <erick> k claes thanks
[11:39] <gaeshi> Archer, Yetr2, thanks!
[11:39] <gaeshi> how to install it?
[11:39] <Seveas> shandar, put it in xorg.conf and remove all other resolutions from that file
[11:39] <erick> claes one more thing, what are the site that can i blocked for my postfix to tell it is spammer
[11:39] <Seveas> gaeshi, same as any other piece of software: apt-get or synaptic
[11:39] <Yetr2> hmm... I still don't have the nvidia module...
[11:39] <shandar> Seveas, I've done that, but then I only get it at 60 Hz, I need it at 72 Hz.
[11:39] <sifl_> Yetr2: it says printing 1 jobs and when i go to properties it says status: printing: usb port busy; will retry in 30 seconds...
[11:39] <Seveas> erick, the documentation of postfix contains lists of RBL sites
[11:40] <erick> ah, is that updated?
[11:40] <claes> erick, To use a blacklist you mean?
[11:40] <Seveas> shandar, then you need to fidle with your VertRefresh
[11:40] <erick> yeah claes,
[11:40] <shandar> Seveas, and yes, I have edited the h-sync and v-refresh
[11:40] <erick> what to stop the spammer
[11:40] <gaeshi> Seveas, thanks!
[11:40] <Seveas> shandar, well, then you have now reached the end of my X knowledge, sorry
[11:41] <claes> erick,  rblcheck   <-- checks if the mail server are blacklisted
[11:41] <shandar> Seveas, Okey. Thanks anyway! I'll try to fiddle around a bit more with it, but so far nothing has helped =/
[11:41] <Seveas> good luck
[11:41] <erick> claes can you give me those site, so that I will include it in my blacklist
[11:42] <erick> no claes, just want to have the list of those that your are familiar that includes on your blaclist
[11:44] <shandar> No luck... still running at 60 Hz...
[11:44] <Yetr2> sifl_, I'm not sure... I could only take a guess that if you have other USB devices, they could be hogging the bandwidth, preventing printing
[11:44] <Yetr2> I have USB printers on my cups server too, but they are the only USB devices on the system
[11:45] <sifl_> Yetr2: i don't though, ps/2 keyboard and serial mouse(which itself was a challenge for me)
[11:45] <erick> seveas and claes thanks, just check the site
[11:46] <kill9> anyone here from south africa?
[11:46] <claes> erick, I'll check my setup for the blacklist server I use.
[11:46] <Yetr2> try turning off the printer, unpluggging the USB cable, cancel the job, the turn the printer back on & reconect the cable, then try printing again
[11:47] <Yetr2> first through the linux server, then throught the windows client
[11:47] <kill9> where can i get a list of apt servers?
[11:48] <Seveas> !tell kill9 about sources
[11:48] <claes> erick, http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/howtouse.html
[11:48] <pipoun> why do I have the headers for 2.6.10-5 and 2.6.10-5-386 at the same time installed???
[11:49] <kjb> hi
[11:49] <kjb> how can i get under ubuntu the right kernels to the right gcc?
[11:50] <kjb> i have done an apt-get install build-essentiallinuxheaders'uname -r'
[11:50] <kill9> thnx
[11:50] <dooglus> kjb: what are you trying to do?
[11:50] <kjb> dooglus, i try to get vm-ware runing
[11:50] <shandar> is there any other way to change resolution other than the gnome applet?
[11:51] <kjb> but it always tell me, that my kernel is created with gcc 3.4.5
[11:51] <kjb> and my current gcc version is 4.0.2
[11:51] <pipoun> perhaps it's true
[11:51] <kjb> Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[11:51] <kjb> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2"
[11:51] <dooglus> kjb: hoary?
[11:51] <pipoun> kjb, find your 3.4.5 version and use it for vmware
[11:52] <kjb> pipoun, so i can install the gcc3.4.5 without problem?
[11:52] <kjb> apt-get install gcc3.4.5 ?
[11:52] <pipoun> has it been uniinstall
[11:52] <sifl_> Yetr2: ok, it's printing the linux test page..
[11:52] <pipoun> well no, I can overtake your previous instalation of 4.0.2
[11:53] <dooglus> kjb: apt-get install gcc-3.4
[11:54] <sifl_> Yetr2: but did not print the windows test page
[11:54] <sifl_> Yetr2: it doesn't think that it finished the linux test page...
[11:55] <Yetr2> sifl_, is the windows job showing in the que?
[11:55] <N6REJ> *sigH* still can't upgrade distro.. .keep getting failure message
[11:55] <larsrohdin>  hi, I've just installed GTA SA and I am able to play it, but I cannot change the advanced display settings, the game crashes... Can someone help me?
[11:55] <larsrohdin> with cedega
[11:55] <kjb> i looked i have no old gcc
[11:55] <propagandhi> N6REJ: whats is the message
[11:55] <kjb> dooglus, but isnt it better to get the right (newer) kernel to the gcc4?
[11:56] <sifl_> Yetr2: yes, it says pending: none but it's after the linux page that says printing: job-printing
[11:56] <[LethAL] > larsrohdin, I don't know about that, but I think it's just s changing video settings problem
[11:56] <N6REJ> propagandhi: thank god for the shell mail command or I couldn't tell ya......
[11:56] <N6REJ> propagandhi: dpkg; ../../main/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion 'dependtry <=4' failed.
[11:56] <Yetr2> hmm...
[11:56] <larsrohdin> [LethAL] , changing in X?
[11:56] <sifl_> Yetr2: but it finished the linux page... i already threw it out
[11:56] <propagandhi> N6REJ: u dont use dpkg to upgrade though
[11:56] <[LethAL] > No in the game
[11:56] <[LethAL] > Although I haven't played SA with it
[11:57] <N6REJ> propagandhi: cc, I did apt-get install dist-upgrade and it ran for a while and then threw that error out.
[11:57] <larsrohdin> [LethAL] , yeah but I cant even enter the advanced display settings, then the game crashes
[11:57] <N6REJ> propagandhi: and now dpkg --configure -a won't run either
[11:57] <Yetr2> I would changing the log level in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to maximum, restarting cups, and see what kind of message I getting.
[11:57] <sifl_> Yetr2: whoa, my processor has not gone below 100% for a while now...
[11:57] <[LethAL] > larsrohdin, oh... maybe you should try running it with WINE? Can be better at various programs...
[11:58] <propagandhi> N6EJ: okay, you updated /etc/apt/sources.lst - then apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade right?
[11:58] <Yetr2> sifl_, `top`
[11:58] <N6REJ> yep
[11:58] <melvztechie> guys, is there a mrtg package in ubuntu?
[11:58] <N6REJ> let me see if I can do it again.
[11:58] <blenda> I've forgotten my password to Gnome's keyring. Is there a way to reset it? I don't care if my saved passwords are lost.
[11:58] <Yetr2> what program is hoarding the CPU time?
[11:58] <[LethAL] > How do I setup ThunderBird to read my local mail?
[11:58] <topyli> N6REJ: does apt-get -f install work?
[11:58] <N6REJ> propagandhi: ok, apt-get update worked.
[11:58] <twibbler> Does anybody know of a good text editor for programming ..... mainly perl html etc .... I have tried most of the ones under synaptic ....
[11:59] <N6REJ> standby
[11:59] <N6REJ> no same error
[11:59] <claes> melvztechie, yes    try: apt-cache search mrtg
[11:59] <Yetr2> twibbler, I like vi
[11:59] <topyli> twibbler: emacs maybe
[11:59] <propagandhi> nano!!
[11:59] <N6REJ> pico!
[11:59] <N6REJ> lol
[12:00] <topyli> !start an editor war
[12:00] <ubotu> notepad is better than emacs
[12:00] <ompaul> !start editor war
[12:00] <ubotu> ompaul: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:00] <larsrohdin> ubotu, wtf?
[12:00] <ubotu> larsrohdin: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:00] <ompaul> !start an editor war
[12:00] <sifl_> Yetr2: the weird thing is that my processes only add up to 6% cpu usage
[12:00] <Shin_Gouki> me voted for vi
[12:00] <Shin_Gouki> it rocks
[12:00] <larsrohdin> emaccs is the shit=)
[12:00] <twibbler> Yetr2: topyli: used both after a more graphical one ?.
[12:00] <melvztechie> claes: there is, what am i gonna install first? or how will i install mrtg now?
[12:00] <nitroflea> Anybody know why totem complains about the audio output being used by another application? I've got an Audigy LS
[12:00] <Syruss> emacs rocks.
[12:00] <Yetr2> with the proper setup, vi does syntax highlighting
[12:00] <Syruss> I also use vim though which is also good
[12:00] <ompaul> the bot is gone sick
[12:00] <Syruss> each has their place
[12:00] <Syruss> :p
[12:00] <propagandhi> nano nano nano
[12:00] <Syruss> ROL!
[12:00] <N6REJ> propagandhi:  now what?
[12:01] <topyli> N6REJ: try uninstalling the offending package (unless it's something like glibc :)
[12:01] <Syruss> nano is properly lame
[12:01] <Syruss> :)
[12:01] <N6REJ> topyli: how? which one?
[12:01] <Jedrick> whats the command in irc to echo on what os ur using like $os
[12:01] <claes> melvztechie, sudo aptitude install mrtg       but I haven't used it myself
[12:01] <damo21> lol there is Ubuntu 5.10ReleaseCandidate? why not wait another few days haha
[12:01] <[LethAL] > Nano is cool...
[12:01] <N6REJ> topyli: should I start aptitude?
[12:01] <topyli> N6REJ: which one is giving the error?
[12:01] <topyli> N6REJ: aptitude might be smarter than apt, yes
[12:01] <propagandhi> N6REJ: in synaptic are there any broken packages at all
[12:01] <N6REJ> topyli: thats just it I don't know...
[12:01] <Syruss> anyway, anyone here use network-manager? I'm having problems with it's use of bind to do dns caching in that resolving works for a while, then just stops working for certain websites.
[12:01] <melvztechie> claes: okey will try, just want to monitor my ethx bandwidth utilization, tanks
[12:01] <N6REJ> I don't know how to tell guys, I'm brand new and its a new hoary install
[12:02] <sifl_> Yetr2: wait, nm, cupsd is taking all my processing
[12:02] <damo21> propagandhi: it depends on which repositories you enable
[12:02] <N6REJ> breezy has a broken initrd file
[12:02] <claes> melvztechie, glad I could help
[12:02] <nitroflea> Has anyone got their Audigy LS stable in breezy yet? Totem and XMMS complain
[12:02] <propagandhi> damo12: ???
[12:02] <Jedrick> whats the command in irc to echo on what os ur using like:  /echo $os
[12:02] <Yetr2> sifl_, `sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd restart`
[12:02] <topyli> N6REJ: yeah, the error message doesn't seem very helpful :(
[12:02] <propagandhi> damo21: ???
[12:02] <Jedrick> anyone?
[12:02] <N6REJ> propagandhi: whats synaptic?
[12:02] <[LethAL] > Jedrick, uname -a
[12:03] <Syruss> Jedrick, /exec -o uname -a
[12:03] <propagandhi> N6REJ: package manager
[12:03] <[LethAL] > Jedrick, linuxinfo
[12:03] <damo21> propagandhi: if you select strictly the ubuntu official repositories, then there shouldnt be any broken packages
[12:03] <melvztechie> claes: it installed freely with no error;) thats cool!
[12:03] <Proko> ave
[12:03] <N6REJ> I have all the deb's uncommented in sources.list except cdrom
[12:03] <melvztechie> claes: ill try to configure it now;)
[12:04] <N6REJ> I just started aptitude, now what?
[12:04] <propagandhi> damo21: ok i see what your saying but its not just repos that create broken packages, you never know what packages people have tried to install
[12:04] <topyli> N6REJ: just press g and see if it can sort things out
[12:04] <sifl_> Yetr2: the command to restart cupsd is actually sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[12:04] <Yetr2> ...
[12:04] <sifl_> Yetr2: spent forever on that earlier
[12:04] <sifl_> Yetr2: but it worked
[12:04] <N6REJ> hit g and screen is now green with lots of files showing.
[12:05] <Yetr2> sifl_, what about the windows que?
[12:05] <Proko> Hi, I use a hoary ubuntu version, and I try to add some debian repository in my sources.list file, but I always get an error message talking about a public key signature. Where may I find the right debian repositories ?
[12:05] <N6REJ> ok, had to hit it again.. going now
[12:05] <topyli> N6REJ: good. press g again and it will tell you if something is broken
[12:05] <melvztechie> ERROR: Mrtg will most likely not work properly when the environment
[12:05] <melvztechie>        variable LANG is set to UTF-8. Please run mrtg in an environment
[12:05] <melvztechie>        where this is not the case. Try the following command to start:
[12:05] <[LethAL] > Proko, don't use debian reops
[12:05] <[LethAL] > repos*
[12:05] <damo21> propagandhi: im saying that if you only use the official repo and only use synaptic for installing new packages then there should be no problem
[12:05] <melvztechie> anybody has seen this error , configuring and starting mrtg?
[12:05] <N6REJ> topyli: its downloading alot of stuff
[12:06] <propagandhi> damo21: okay although it wasnt what i was saying
[12:06] <kemik> melvztechie:  dont paste in here, use pastebin (url in topic)
[12:06] <N6REJ> topyli: says 25 minutes
[12:06] <damo21> :)
[12:06] <Proko> lol lethal
[12:06] <melvztechie> oh sorry
[12:06] <melvztechie> :D
[12:06] <topyli> N6REJ: good, it must be upgrading a bunch of packages. dpkg may still choke later of course :(
[12:06] <N6REJ> topyli: yeah, thats whats been happening.
[12:06] <sifl_> Yetr2: it dropped my processing % back down, but still no printing...
[12:07] <Proko> [LethAL]  , I need those...
[12:07] <[LethAL] > Proko, If you can't get it from the Ubuntu repos, try to build the source and build that, download that deb and install it
[12:07] <Proko> :-/
[12:07] <[LethAL] > I can't type today :/
[12:07] <N6REJ> topyli:  at least postfix is SENDING mail LOL.. won't recieve it yet but it does send.  Well, it won't let me connect to it yet... lets put it that way.
[12:08] <sifl_> Yetr2: i really think it's my printer, i am able to print to my friends printer on a linux box and he lives a mile away
[12:08] <N6REJ> topyli: course the installer never asked for the domain name either :(
[12:08] <Proko> k [LethAL] 
[12:08] <damo21> does alien create proper ubuntu-safe packages?
[12:08] <[LethAL] > damo21, not really
[12:08] <Yetr2> sifl_, what distrobution is he using
[12:08] <Proko> there is absolutely no way of adding other repos ?
[12:08] <topyli> damo21: depends on the phase of the moon and the power of your prayers
[12:08] <damo21> :D
[12:08] <liran_> when im configuring my router for WEP encryption security and put in a passphrase, it generates a hex key. which of those do i feed to the wireless netwrok laptop? (the passphrase or the hex key?)
[12:08] <[LethAL] > Proko, there is, but like I said, unless you're on a deathwish...
[12:09] <sifl_> Yetr2: hoary on one box, the one with the printer and breezy on the other one
[12:09] <propagandhi> damo21: they often work though, and if they dont you can always remove them
[12:09] <[LethAL] > liran_, probably the hex key
[12:09] <melvztechie> just want to know any HOW-TO for mrtg configuration in Ubuntu? tanks
[12:09] <[LethAL] > melvztechie, man mrtg?
[12:09] <damo21> i saw a couple on the ubuntu wikis for the "less legal" packages
[12:09] <Yetr2> sifl_, I would still try setting the logging facility to max and try to figure it out that way.
[12:11] <sifl_> Yetr2: well, i'm not gonna give up on it just yet, and i still have to get sound working on this box, but i'm gonna head in for the night, thanks for all your help :)
[12:11] <dooglus> how do you configure firefox to open popup windows in a new tab, rather than in a new window?
[12:11] <[LethAL] > dooglus, install tab mix or tab mix plus
[12:11] <damo21> I would like to become an advocate for ubuntu... ive already helped a few people install hoary at uni
[12:11] <dooglus> [
[12:12] <dooglus> [LethAL] : is it possible to do without using extensions?
[12:12] <[LethAL] > dooglus, I don't know, try about:config
[12:12] <dooglus> [LethAL] : ok, thanks.
[12:12] <poyie> ei ned some help
[12:12] <[LethAL] > dooglus, I have no idea what to look for in there though ;)
[12:12] <propagandhi> dooglus: edit -> preferences -> advanced
[12:12] <poyie> how to dual parttion xp and ubuntu?
[12:12] <topyli> damo21: so you are already doing what you want :)
[12:12] <dooglus> [LethAL] : I'm trying to work out exactly when http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/crash.htm crashes firefox, and when it doesn't
[12:13] <damo21> yes :D how do you use the OEM setup method?
[12:13] <poyie> how to dual parttion xp and ubuntu?
[12:13] <damo21> is there a wiki for that?
[12:13] <Syruss> anyway, anyone here use network-manager? I'm having problems with it's use of bind to do dns caching in that resolving works for a while, then just stops working for certain websites.
[12:13] <dooglus> propagandhi: which setting in advanced?
[12:13] <[LethAL] > dooglus, I click the link, if I click on the page the tab dies and if I click on the link I get another one
[12:13] <damo21> how do u install to many machines at once
[12:14] <propagandhi> dooglus: the tabbed browsing setting
[12:14] <dooglus> propagandhi: which one?
[12:14] <damo21> i was thinking of converting a whole computer lab to ubuntu
[12:14] <propagandhi> dooglus: 'a new tab in the most recent window'
[12:14] <dodgyville> Hello
[12:15] <dooglus> propagandhi: that's for links from other apps, not popups from within firefox
[12:15] <propagandhi> ok, i misread the popups bit sorry
[12:15] <dodgyville> ifup eth0 gives me "no dhcpoffers received" with my adsl modem plugged in.
[12:16] <[LethAL] > dodgyville, Your ADSL modem won't have a dhcp server...
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> have people had problems with postfix during dist-upgrades from hoary-> breezy?
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi [LethAL]  :)
[12:16] <damo21> Why arent schools using edubuntu? its free!
[12:16] <[LethAL] > Hey KK
[12:16] <Syruss> damo21, fear.
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[12:16] <dodgyville> [LethAL]  I can plug the modem into an ibook2 running breezy, and it works, but on my PC running breezy it doesn't.
[12:16] <Syruss> fear of the unknown
[12:16] <[LethAL] > dodgyville, Oh, is it an ethernet modem?
[12:16] <ProkoAFK> bye
[12:16] <Syruss> it's up to linux users to spread the word and show people first hand that linux is good
[12:17] <Syruss> don't expect it to just happen.
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> Syruss: and (at least in aust) the government is in bed with MS
[12:17] <damo21> Come! Let us show them
[12:17] <dodgyville> [LethAL]  Yes.
[12:17] <Syruss> yer many governments are corrupted with microsoft's money
[12:17] <Syruss> some aren't though
[12:17] <Syruss> so don't lose hope
[12:17] <Syruss> :p
[12:17] <[LethAL] > dodgyville, Try and find better drivers for your network card. That's all I can say, sorry
[12:18] <[LethAL] > My school's web server now runs Moodle on SuSE iirc
[12:18] <topyli> damo21: i don't think the oem install method is ready
[12:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, australias gov spends 2.8mil (bil?) P/A on licences
[12:18] <[LethAL] > Still 6 other W2k3 servers... :-(
[12:18] <damo21> Oh ok... Ubuntu should focus on the OEM setup method
[12:18] <damo21> make it as easy to install as windows
[12:18] <damo21> :D
[12:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : when the 6 k2 servers keep dying and the suse box doesnt, things will change ;)
[12:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> wtf damo21? doze easy to install? adn breezy has an oem mode now :O
[12:19] <damo21> Does it? Cool
[12:19] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, 2k3... not k2... and for some reason they all need Dual Xeons and 1GB RAM... :O
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : 'some reason' :D, but ok, 2k3 is better then 2k server
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> but i maintain 2k is better tehn xp :D
[12:20] <damo21> Where can i find information about the oem method for ubuntu?
[12:20] <kemik> !terminal
[12:20] <ubotu> terminal is, like, in gnome, to get to a terminal, you use the gnome menu, that is by default on the top of the screen. Hit Applications>System Tools>Terminal.
[12:20] <topyli> damo21: install one and run dpkg --get-selections > /floppy/packages.lst . then install minimal installs on other boxen and run dpkg --get-selections < /floppy/packages.lst :)
[12:20] <damo21> Ohhh!
[12:20] <topyli> you get identical installations
[12:20] <damo21> awesome!
[12:21] <damo21> Now thats the sort of code that should be posted on a wiki
[12:21] <damo21> :)
[12:21] <topyli> damo21: that's a good way of saving your package selection for disaster recovery. when you reinstall, just do dkpg --get-selections and restore /etc from backups :)
[12:21] <damo21> yeah
[12:22] <BockBilbo> !lirc
[12:22] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, BockBilbo
[12:23] <damo21> Ohhh and then ubuntu automatically configures itself for each computers hardware
[12:23] <[LethAL] > ubotu, no, terminal is in Gnome, to get to a terminal, open the Applications menu from the top panel and You will find a terminal item in Accessories (Breezy) or in System Tools (Hoary). If you want to be able to right-click on the desktop or a folder to open the terminal, install nautilus-open-terminal (sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal)
[12:23] <ubotu> okay, [LethAL] 
[12:23] <damo21> with identical packages!
[12:23] <topyli> damo21: on a good day, yes .)
[12:23] <dmabowen> I need help!  I just installed Ubuntu (1st time with Linux) and I created a username at install.  I need to log in as Root..  what is the default password for root?
[12:23] <BockBilbo> !lirc
[12:23] <ubotu> somebody said lirc was at http://www.lirc.com
[12:23] <epic_> dmabowen,  you do not log in as root
[12:23] <Blejdfist> dmabowen: sudo -s and type your own password
[12:23] <nitroflea> is the w32codecs package available through the ubuntu repositories? or where can I get 'em?
[12:23] <dmabowen> Thanks!
[12:23] <[LethAL] > !tell dmabowen about rootsudo
[12:24] <[LethAL] > dmabowen, It's best not to have a root pwd
[12:24] <[LethAL] > See what ubotu told you
[12:24] <dmabowen> W/o a root pwd how do I login?
[12:24] <[LethAL] > With your standard login name
[12:24] <epic_> log in as the user you created during install
[12:24] <BockBilbo> can you guys tell me of any good remote control for linux?
[12:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> you dont log in as root
[12:24] <[LethAL] > And password
[12:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> you log in as you
[12:25] <epic_> you will be prompted for your password when root privs are needed, and in a terminal use sudo 'command'
[12:25] <[LethAL] > epic_, ubotu has told him about that ;)
[12:25] <dmabowen> The first account has Root privs?
[12:25] <[LethAL] > dmabowen, no
[12:25] <intelikey> of course all ^ that assumes a standard install
[12:26] <epic_> [LethAL] ,    that's doesn't mean it was understood
[12:26] <[LethAL] > dmabowen, the first account can use gksudo, gnome-sudo and sudo with their own pwds
[12:26] <dodgyville> When I plug an ADSL modem in my ethernet card, should it register somewhere on the system? (ie dmesg)?
[12:26] <dmabowen> Thanks guys!
[12:26] <[LethAL] > dmabowen, unless you did expert install...
[12:26] <pef> hello
[12:26] <epic_> is ubotu supybot?
[12:26] <[LethAL] > no
[12:26] <[LethAL] > blootbot
[12:26] <epic_> k, ta.
[12:27] <[LethAL] > i.e. modded infobot
[12:27] <[LethAL] > In the repos though ;)
[12:27] <epic_> I can't remember how I got root-tail working with gnome/nautilus in the past
[12:27] <epic_> it has been done though
[12:27] <johnsie2> hi.... Does anyone know how I can add something to the "system path"?
[12:28] <damo21> topyli: would that method work if u also include some non-standard packages? id have to backup the repository file too.. :D
[12:28] <topyli> yes, you need an identical sources.list of course
[12:28] <epic_> johnsie2,   edit your .bash_profile
[12:28] <Ng> if you can't get root-tail going there are log tailing components for gdesklets, if you can stand to run that much python ;)
[12:28] <johnsie2> how?
[12:28] <damo21> awesome
[12:29] <epic_> johnsie2,   use a tect editor
[12:29] <epic_> the file is in your home dir
[12:29] <epic_> *text
[12:29] <intelikey> johnsie2 put it in /usr/local/bin    or add the location it is in to your path.
[12:29] <topyli> damo21: the problems begin when you have built some packages of your own. then you'd need a local apt repository (which is easy enough to make)
[12:30] <nikls> do someone use a canon IP1500 printer on ubuntu?
[12:30] <intelikey> putting things in the system standard path makes all users able to access them without hassel.
[12:30] <hansi_xp> join #enlightenment
[12:30] <epic_> if that's what you want, yes.
[12:31] <damo21> yeah im thinking id want to make a smaller specialised set of packages just for schools etc and a smaller, simpler menu system
[12:31] <damo21> i'll play with edubuntu perhaps
[12:31] <topyli> sounds like a plan
[12:31] <dooglus> epic_: you use root-tail?  you're the first person i've heard talk about it :)
[12:32] <damo21> sounds like easy scripting to make wide-installs easy :D
[12:33] <epic_> I did use it
[12:33] <topyli> damo21: yeah, you can have a floppy with a sources.list, the package list and a menu structure to put in /usr/share. perhaps default user settings for /etc/skeleton. plus the script that handles everything
[12:34] <niXnutz> is there anybody who knows how to install an usb wlan stick on ubuntu?
[12:34] <dooglus> epic_: I used to use it.  I wrote quite a lot of it, too
[12:34] <damo21> yeah :D
[12:34] <nikls> I downloaded drivers for 'pixma IP1500' printer on Canon Support site, but the drivers were '.rpm' type, I converted them with 'alien' but 4 .rpm files gave me only 3 .deb files, then after installing those my printer still don't work.
[12:35] <damo21> topyli: you should write a wiki for this, help schools set-up lots of computers
[12:35] <damo21> :D
[12:35] <epic_> dooglus = Mike Baker?
[12:35] <topyli> damo21: i could write something for the wiki. or the HOWTO section of the forums
[12:36] <damo21> would be cool
[12:36] <dooglus> epic_: no, Chris Moore.  I made most of the recent changes
[12:36] <damo21> im not very familiar with /etc/skeleton
[12:36] <abhayks> waiting for breezy release
[12:36] <[LethAL] > 6 days :D
[12:36] <Hobbsee> abhayks: why not just install it now?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> it's stable enough
[12:37] <johnsie2> ok where is the .bash_profile?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> grab a daily cd of it, and upgrade with that
[12:37] <Hobbsee> or dist upgrade if you're feeling risky
[12:38] <intelikey> johnsie2 look in your home dir
[12:38] <Tomcat_> nikls: I doubt anybody can help with such a specific problem. Try finding information on how other people installed the driver on non-RPM distros. Or ask the vendor to supply a driver for Debian-based distros.
[12:38] <damo21> like, how u create proper skeleton settings for say, different groups of students
[12:38] <topyli> damo21: hm. i don't seem to have one. i'm remembering another distro i guess. on redhat-like systems, it's a directory with default settings that are copied to new users' home directories, like bashrc and such
[12:38] <abhayks> Hobbsee, I have to re-format my existing hoary upgraded system, so want to do a clean install once and for all ( 6 months I mean)
[12:38] <damo21> this is supported in ubuntu?
[12:38] <Hobbsee> abhayks: is your /home on a separate partition?
[12:38] <Kamping_Kaiser>  /etc/skel ? not sure if you can customise it for different groups theough
[12:39] <damo21> yeah
[12:39] <topyli> damo21: i don't know really, i've never used it on any system :)
[12:39] <intelikey> if you are trying to make a system wide path change though it will have to be in /etc/profile but be careful there it is system wide. johnsie2
[12:39] <nikls> Tomcat_: thanks anyway
[12:39] <topyli> Kamping_Kaiser: ah, skel not skeleton
[12:39] <epic_> johnsie2, open your home die with your file browser  (menu, placews, home) and hit Ctrl +H to display hidden files/folders
[12:39] <epic_> *dir
[12:40] <epic_> hmm I need a bigger keyboard or less fat fingers  :/
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> topyli: yeh, thats it
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> *just checked*
[12:40] <damo21> yep
[12:40] <damo21> thanks for help i will look in man pages
[12:40] <damo21> :D
[12:41] <sorush20> is there a parental control program for ubuntu..
[12:41] <Hobbsee> sorush20: what are you looking to do?
[12:42] <sorush20> Hobbsee: just to prevent porn on the computer firefox
[12:42] <johnsie2> ok I'm in the .bash_profile... whaty do i change?
[12:43] <intelikey> johnsie2 add a line at the end "export PATH="$PATH:<your added path>"
[12:43] <epic_> johnsie2, apend the extra dir after the }  in    PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"    put a : between them
[12:43] <Hobbsee> sorush20: i guess you'd look at some filter software, probably check google
[12:43] <intelikey> where <your added path> is the fully qualified path
[12:44] <ubuntulover> 
[12:44] <ubuntulover> 
[12:44] <topyli> wow, that's a lot of typos
[12:44] <deFrysk> 
[12:44] <intelikey> epic_ why not use export ?
[12:44] <[LethAL] > ubotu, forget spam
[12:44] <ubotu> i forgot spam, [LethAL] 
[12:45] <epic_> no reason intelikey, was just what I thought of first
[12:45] <ubuntulover> 
[12:45] <epic_> and it builds on the current .bash_profile style
[12:45] <epic_> ubuntulover,   #ubuntu-TW
[12:46] <johnsie2> so like.... PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}":/home/john/RealPlayer10
[12:46] <intelikey> with export
[12:46] <epic_> do not forget to enclose it in "'s
[12:46] <Cryptid> Which of these emulators are better Qemu,VMware,crossoffice?
[12:46] <johnsie2> export PATH="$PATH:/home/john/RealPlayer10"
[12:47] <intelikey> yep
[12:47] <Alex_BO> HELLO!how can i set a program's autostart in ubuntu hoary?
[12:47] <[LethAL] > Cryptid, I've only used VMware, but Wine and Cedga are good non-emulators
[12:47] <[LethAL] > Cedega*
[12:47] <enodev> alex_do: save your session when logging off
[12:47] <epic_> johnsie2,   or just put Realplayer in your /home/john/bin  dir
[12:48] <Ng> installing RealPlayer systemwide is far easier than into a homedirectory. it's also neater
[12:48] <enodev> alex: the programs that run will be run the next time you log in
[12:48] <deFrysk> messy realplayer :D
[12:48] <intelikey> johnsie2 to test it open a terminal and type "echo $PATH"
[12:48] <epic_> not that anything works with rp anyway
[12:48] <dooglus> epic_: I found one way to get root-tail to work with gnome:  run the configuration editor and uncheck apps/nautilus/preferences/show desktop.  you'll lose your desktop icons and desktop right-click functionality, but you'll gain root-tail :)
[12:48] <Ng> epic_: if you install 10 properly it works fine
[12:48] <deFrysk> rp works fine here
[12:48] <epic_> dooglus,   yeah, I heard that before
[12:49] <werto> yo * ^__^
[12:49] <Ng> the plugin is actually useful these days :)
[12:49] <bayram> wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:49] <epic_> deFrysk,   I can only find an older version of RP, 8>?
[12:49] <epic_> deFrysk,   I can only find an older version of RP, 8.?
[12:49] <Cryptid> [LethAL] , i installed VMware but durin the installation i did some thing wrong and i dont know how to uninstall it & if i try to reinstall VMware it gives me a error saying that "a previous installation has been detected:installation will exit now" what do i do to get rid of this error?
[12:49] <barongas> Is there any way to make consistent gamma changes? Many programs override my fglrx_xgamma adjustments (my monitor is VERY dark)?
[12:49] <werto> i'm in trouble------- __
[12:49] <epic_> Ng  more info please
[12:49] <dooglus> epic_: you keep your desktop wallpaper, too.  I think I'll leave it like that - I never use desktop icons anyway
[12:49] <werto> someone can help me?
[12:49] <deFrysk> epic_, I installed the rpm after using alien
[12:49] <intelikey> yeah epic_ i would have put it in /usr/local/bin to begin with....
[12:49] <Alex_BO> enodev: ah okey.that's very comfortable.but if I would like to set it manually?is there a configuration file?
[12:49] <johnsie2> it didnt come up when i used echo... do i need to reboot?
[12:49] <epic_> deFrysk,   what RPM?
[12:49] <deFrysk> epic_, I symlinked realplay to /usr/bin
[12:50] <epic_> johnsie2,   just type bash
[12:50] <epic_> then try
[12:50] <enodev> alex: its in system->settings->session
[12:50] <N6REJ> topyli: nope, it keeps crashing on update :(  I told it NOT to use the universe packages in sources.list this time.
[12:50] <Ng> epic_: uninstall the rp8 package if you have it, then go to http://www.real.com/freeplayer/?rppr=hc.org to get the Linux version of RP10
[12:50] <deFrysk> and copied the plugin iof the mozillafolder in realplayerfolder to the pluginfolder of firefox, done
[12:50] <epic_> Ng,   thanks, I looked around that site for ages
[12:50] <clark070> guys
[12:50] <clark070> got a question here
[12:50] <epic_> it pissed me off no end
[12:50] <Ng> epic_: yeah, it's a bitch to find. I always follow the link from helixcommunity.org :)
[12:50] <clark070> can't boot on the cd that i burnd
[12:50] <werto> i was trying use fglrx ati driver with xorg, but everything is mad, i've to use my ati radeon xpress 200m with xorg vesa driver.... what should i do????? ___
[12:50] <epic_> appreciated
[12:50] <topyli> N6REJ: sounds more difficult than my brain can handle :(
[12:51] <clark070> how can i make it bootable
[12:51] <Ng> epic_: basically, when you install it, use sudo and tell it to install systemwide
[12:51] <Alex_BO> enodev: is there a file to set?i love the shell :-)
[12:51] <epic_> Ng  plan to
[12:51] <bayram> ich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:51] <bayram> epic_ deFrysk,   I can only find an older version of RP, 8>?
[12:51] <bayram> epic_ deFrysk,   I can only find an older version of RP, 8.?
[12:51] <bayram> Cryptid [LethAL] , i installed VMware but du
[12:51] <MaTaKs> help pls. i have error upgrading hoag to breezy
[12:51] <MaTaKs> Fetched 3271kB in 1m35s (34.3kB/s)
[12:51] <MaTaKs> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:51] <MaTaKs> Reading package lists... Done
[12:51] <MaTaKs> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:51] <johnsie2> dang it didnt come up on the echo
[12:51] <MaTaKs> why is that
[12:51] <Ng> epic_: it will put symlinks in /usr/bin/ and then "realplay" will be in your path :)
[12:51] <epic_> not that anyone else uses this puter anyway  :)
[12:51] <N6REJ> topyli: I hear ya... It's giving me a migrain.  I hope they fix the bug in the breezy installer FAST
[12:51] <deFrysk> bayram, I did not use the repo
[12:51] <[LethAL] > ubotu, no, themes istry installing gnome-art (sudo apt-get install gnome-art) and running it from System -> Preferences -> Art Manager (On Breezy). It downloads and installs themes from art.gnome.org. Some sites with various themes from Gnome include: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/
[12:51] <[LethAL] > 57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[12:51] <ubotu> [LethAL] : I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[12:51] <[LethAL] > grr
[12:51] <enodev> alex: there are several, ie .xsession
[12:51] <nikls> ubuntulover: 
[12:51] <clark070> i downloaded the one from ubuntu.com
[12:51] <bayram>  wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:51] <clark070> put it to cd
[12:51] <bayram>  wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:51] <clark070> but it won't boot
[12:51] <bayram>  wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:52] <N6REJ> topyli: is there a way to tell if they have fixed it?
[12:52] <clark070> what's the problem with it
[12:52] <Alex_BO> enodev: okey.thank you so much man
[12:52] <werto> HEI!!!
[12:52] <enodev> no problem alex
[12:52] <thoreauputic> bayram: #ubuntu-de
[12:52] <intelikey> ?
[12:52] <bayram> ya
[12:52] <irvin> where can i get gst-register? apt-cache search showed none
[12:52] <bayram>  wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:52] <topyli> N6REJ: i just installed breezy for a colleague from the colony 4 cd with no problem at all
[12:52] <[LethAL] > !de
[12:52] <deFrysk> epic_, http://www.real.com/player/?src=realplayer
[12:52] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[12:52] <clark070> topyli: how can i make a bootable ubuntu cd
[12:52] <epic_> deFrysk,   got it, thanks  :)
[12:52] <thoreauputic> bayram: one more repeat and you are out
[12:53] <clark070> thoreauputic: pls help
[12:53] <topyli> clark070: just burn the iso you find on ubuntu.com and it's bootable
[12:53] <N6REJ> topyli: whats the colony 4 cd?
[12:53] <clark070> the one that i burnd is not a bootable cd
[12:53] <nikls> ubuntulover: 
[12:53] <clark070> topyli: it won't
[12:53] <MaTaKs> help pls. i have error upgrading hoag to breezy
[12:53] <MaTaKs> Fetched 3271kB in 1m35s (34.3kB/s)
[12:53] <clark070> topyli: that's my problem
[12:53] <MaTaKs> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:53] <MaTaKs> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:53] <twibbler> Here is another ? for a Friday .... Java-jar is it available on ubuntu... if so is it safe to install ?...
[12:54] <clark070> it's a zip file that i downloaded, then i unzip it and burn it
[12:54] <deFrysk> MaTaKs, apdate and try again
[12:54] <clark070> but won't boot at all
[12:54] <deFrysk> update*
[12:54] <topyli> N6REJ: from cdimage.ubuntu.com, the beta versions come in "colonies". we're at "colony 4" now
[12:54] <N6REJ> clark070: you DON"T unzip it!!! you tell your software to burn a "iso" or "Image"
[12:54] <MaTaKs> oh man it takes like 4 hours to upgrade
[12:54] <topyli> clark070: the cd images are not zips but isos
[12:55] <ColonelKernel> breezy is more bleeding edge than gentoo package-wise
[12:55] <ColonelKernel> gentoo aint usin gnome 2.12
[12:55] <N6REJ> topyli: 1007?
[12:55] <bayram>  wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:55] <deFrysk> ColonelKernel, yes they do, its just still masked
[12:55] <ColonelKernel> Hmm
[12:56] <clark070> oh my god
[12:56] <ColonelKernel> still masked means not stable
[12:56] <irvin> my sound card is detected as VIA 8235, this was working on hoary but not in breezy with current updates. the error requires running gst-register but i can't find it...
[12:56] <deFrysk> ColonelKernel, breezy is not stable yet either ;)
[12:56] <epic_> Anyone here use Ubuntu on a server?
[12:56] <ColonelKernel> no but on oct 13 it will be
[12:56] <N6REJ> bayram: miene Duestche ich nich gut!! Duestche ich nicht gut here... sprechen eine americana
[12:56] <epic_> English thankyou  :P
[12:56] <thoreauputic> bayram: you were warned - please join #ubuntu-de
[12:56] <N6REJ> thats what I said epic
[12:56] <deFrysk> ColonelKernel, so ?
[12:57] <clark070> N6REJ: then why my winrar still unzip it
[12:57] <N6REJ> he want to know how to install skype lol
[12:57] <N6REJ> clark070: beats me but it shouldn't touch it!
[12:57] <ColonelKernel> deFrysk, just noting thats the most up-to-date gnome on a distro ive seen
[12:57] <epic_> Sorry, I thought you said americn
[12:57] <topyli> N6REJ: that's the daily build. the "colony" releases may be more stable
[12:57] <N6REJ> clark070: what burning software do you use?
[12:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> using rpm by the look
[12:57] <[LethAL] > clark070, winrar can extract isos. use a CD burning software
[12:57] <[LethAL] > clark070, CDBurnerXP is a good'un
[12:57] <deFrysk> ColonelKernel, frugalware has gnome2.12 on stable
[12:57] <epic_> clark070,   ope n it with nero if you have it
[12:58] <ColonelKernel> never heard of frugalware
[12:58] <clark070> topyli: nero 6
[12:58] <N6REJ> epic_: I did, If I'm remembering right its the german word for english LOL
[12:58] <N6REJ> or at least american.
[12:58] <epic_> mm anglice  I think
[12:58] <topyli> clark070: winzip thinks it's being helpful. sometimes you want to look inside the iso to see what's on the cd
[12:58] <deFrysk> ColonelKernel, then hush ;)
[12:58] <[LethAL] > american != english != british
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> N6REJ: i doubt it is tbh, but you never know
[12:58] <[LethAL] > :P
[12:58] <topyli> clark070: so tell nero to burn it as an image. otherwise you'll end up with a cd with an iso file inside it
[12:58] <clark070> topyli: oh my goodness
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : yeh :D
[12:59] <N6REJ> I'm still learning.. LOL
[12:59] <N6REJ> I think he got the message though.
[12:59] <ColonelKernel> frugalware says stable release isnt out yet
[12:59] <AlphaFaction> hey all, what do you gyes think is the best program for sorting out the id3 tags of a huge mp3 collection? cowbell seems great but it can only do an album at a time
[12:59] <clark070> topyli: i wasted a good cd there
[12:59] <N6REJ> topyli:  where do you see colony?
[12:59] <topyli> clark070: we always need coasters, right? i have a windows server 2003 cd as a coaster right here :)
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : N6REJ http://babelfish.altavista.com/ . english =englisch
[01:00] <N6REJ> topyli:  lol :P
[01:00] <[LethAL] > I have a Fedora Core 4 CD 3 Coffee mat :P
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:00] <N6REJ> Kamping_Kaiser: :P
[01:00] <aftertaf> lol
[01:00] <topyli> N6REJ: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-4/
[01:00] <nikls> what drivers provided with ubuntu can I use for a Canon pixma IP1500 printer?
[01:00] <clark070> topyli: so when i open nero
[01:00] <clark070> topyli: i'll go to "Disc Image or Save Project"
[01:00] <[LethAL] > clark070, It's referred to 'Burn Image or saved project' in nero express
[01:00] <clark070> ok
[01:00] <clark070> got it
[01:01] <[LethAL] > clark070, yes, you'll need to chnge the filetype I think
[01:01] <[LethAL] > change*
[01:01] <Hobbsee> N6REJ: why not just get one of the daily releases, also on that page?  it'd be more upto date
[01:01] <topyli> clark070: i have never seen nero but something like "burn image" should be somewhere there
[01:01] <clark070> topyli: i nedd to spend another 3 hours to download the file
[01:01] <N6REJ> Hobbsee: good idea!
[01:01] <Hobbsee> clark070: nero indeed burns image files
[01:01] <fish> hi. how can i get gedit to not be opened twice, but rather to have new documents automatically open as a new tab within the same program/window? (Just like a web browser)? I'm talking about the time when i double click a file in the GUI.
[01:01] <Hobbsee> N6REJ: :P did the same thing yesterday with kubuntu
[01:01] <[LethAL] > I wish my burner worked :(
[01:02] <topyli> clark070: you have broken the iso?
[01:02] <clark070> topyli: after using winrar, i permanently deleted it from my hard drive
[01:02] <[LethAL] > :D
[01:02] <clark070> topyli: i tot, it was a zip file 'cause it inherits the icon of winrar
[01:02] <ColonelKernel> well when gentoo goes to 2.12 ill try it out, cant wait to try stable breezy tho
[01:02] <[LethAL] > Yeah, I hate that 'feature'
[01:02] <clark070> [LethAL] : why.? ;-)
[01:02] <[LethAL] > Because you deleted the ISO
[01:03] <epic_> oh no
[01:03] <thoreauputic> clark070: any program that thinks an iso is a zip file is braindead
[01:03] <N6REJ> lol, you can change that clark, just un associate that , or go into nero and tell it to reassociate its files.
[01:03] <N6REJ> thoreauputic: here here!
[01:03] <[LethAL] > thoreauputic, WinRAR reads ISO files fine...
[01:03] <epic_> ye  right click it and 'open with other application'   choose nero
[01:03] <[LethAL] > thoreauputic, but it is braindead
[01:03] <clark070> yeah it reads
[01:03] <N6REJ> epic_: shift right click :D
[01:03] <clark070> but i did is i unzip it
[01:03] <clark070> knowing that it'll be fine when i burn it
[01:03] <N6REJ> clark070: OOOPPS... redownload it :D
[01:03] <Hobbsee> lol...it's not supposed to be unzipped...
[01:03] <[LethAL] > ubotu, forget dude
[01:04] <epic_> N6REJ,    nice  :P
[01:04] <ubotu> i forgot dude, [LethAL] 
[01:04] <thoreauputic> [LethAL] : it leads people into the problem clark070 has
[01:04] <topyli> thoreauputic: file-roller will do the same, but at least gnome doesn't change the icon
[01:04] <clark070> so you where saying guys that the cd i have now is TOTALLY USELESS
[01:04] <epic_> Anyone here use Ubuntu in a sesrver environemnt?
[01:04] <ColonelKernel> thoreauputic, the program doesnt - he just didnt pay attention to the association settings when he installed winrar
[01:04] <[LethAL] > thoreauputic, it does. IZArc can convert them though, which is nice
[01:04] <thoreauputic> topyli: nothing wrong with reading the iso
[01:04] <N6REJ> clark070: yep!
[01:04] <irvin> !w23codecs
[01:04] <ubotu> Not a clue, irvin
[01:04] <N6REJ> clark070: though it makes one HELL of a frisbee
[01:04] <topyli> thoreauputic: oh no. sometimes you want to look inside
[01:04] <fish> Hello ALL: how can i get gedit to open documents in a new tab, and not a totally new program/window, a la a browser?
[01:04] <[LethAL] > I want a 23 bit CPU!
[01:04] <neotrophy> Asked this in #kubuntu, and was sumarily ignored... Anyone know how to turn off drop shadows for a particular window.  I can see how to do transparency, but not shadows (kde 3.4)?
[01:04] <[LethAL] > :D
[01:04] <thoreauputic> topyli: exactly
[01:04] <N6REJ> 23bit?
[01:05] <clark070> he he he
[01:05] <clark070> i'll just give it then to my daugther
[01:05] <clark070> and let her play with it
[01:05] <Hobbsee> lol...she'll like that
[01:05] <thoreauputic> topyli: but an ISO is an ISO and should be left as such unless you wish otherwise
[01:05] <[LethAL] > thoreauputic, when is an ISO not an ISO...
[01:05] <[LethAL] > ?*
[01:05] <epic_> too many applications are association thieves
[01:05] <clark070> btw, what's more faster, direct download or torrent
[01:05] <[LethAL] > Torrent usually
[01:06] <thoreauputic> [LethAL] : when it is misinterpreted :)
[01:06] <N6REJ> more faster?
[01:06] <N6REJ> lol
[01:06] <N6REJ> :P
[01:06] <[LethAL] > LOL
[01:06] <Hobbsee> lol of course
[01:06] <irvin> i need the link for w32codecs please
[01:06] <irvin> !w32codecs
[01:06] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[01:06] <Hobbsee> should have done yesterday's download from a torrent
[01:06] <samu2> Why does firefox keep crashing for me?
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> this look familar to anyone? http://pastebin.com/386055
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[01:06] <Hobbsee> samu2: run it in safe mode yet?
[01:06] <N6REJ> I thought bit torrents were slower?
[01:07] <samu2> Hobbsee, nope. Didn't realize it had a safe mode.
[01:07] <Hobbsee> irvin: http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ and download the deb from there
[01:07] <epic_> depends
[01:07] <Hobbsee> that's easier
[01:07] <epic_> I get good speed on both for ubuntu
[01:07] <Hobbsee> samu2: it does, and that will tell you if it's a problem with one of the extensions
[01:07] <epic_> torrents get up to 400k, direct about 200
[01:07] <fish> where do i go to see the current state of a reported bug in ubuntu?
[01:07] <N6REJ> for some reason i'm crawling tonight, only 45kb
[01:07] <[LethAL] > N6REJ, linux torrents are allways fast
[01:07] <[LethAL] > ;)
[01:07] <chrizel> hi
[01:07] <N6REJ> so how do you dl in torrent mode?
[01:07] <[LethAL] > ubotu, forget gay
[01:08] <ubotu> [LethAL] : i forgot gay
[01:08] <ubuntulover> 
[01:08] <epic_> N6REJ, grab the torrent
[01:08] <Hobbsee> samu2: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode
[01:08] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  hows it keeping, the machine?
[01:08] <clark070> more faster to download i mean
[01:08] <[LethAL] > more faster? lol
[01:09] <clark070> then what's the term for that
[01:09] <N6REJ> aftertaf: wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllll........... lets just say we're RE RE RE RE RE downloading the updates
[01:09] <thoreauputic> can anyone help ubuntulover find a channel for his/her language?
[01:09] <chrizel> Is the breezy bootsplash available on ppc? I don't get it here...
[01:09] <rob^> !ca
[01:09] <ubotu> rob^: Wish i knew
[01:09] <rob^> grr
[01:09] <intelikey> more faster is more gooder
[01:09] <clark070> ok
[01:09] <clark070> direct or torrent
[01:09] <epic_> I think it might be #ununtu-TW or ubuntu-zh
[01:09] <[LethAL] > Torrent!
[01:09] <epic_> torrent!
[01:09] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  why's that?
[01:09] <clark070> ok
[01:09] <clark070> i'll do that tom
[01:09] <epic_> I think it might be #ubuntu-TW or ubuntu-zh
[01:09] <fish> hello all: where do i go to report bugs???
[01:09] <aftertaf> fish /topic
[01:09] <[LethAL] > !bugzilla
[01:09] <clark070> i only have a dial up here at home
[01:09] <ubotu> I heard bugzilla is at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[01:10] <clark070> and dsl at school
[01:10] <clark070> :-)
[01:10] <N6REJ> aftertaf: same same.. keeps giving me the same dumb error.
[01:10] <[LethAL] > clark070, shipit
[01:10] <Hobbsee> clarck070: definetly worht doing it at school then :P
[01:10] <aftertaf> fish:  sorry, no  longer in topic :/
[01:10] <Hobbsee> clark070: definetly worht doing it at school then :P
[01:10] <clark070> yeah
[01:10] <baskak> dear friends, i would like to ask for help regarding partitioning for ubuntu i just bumped onto
[01:10] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  dpkg error? what is it exactly, and with which package?
[01:10] <baskak> I tried to "save up" space for Ubuntu using built-in partitioning utility. (I have a laptop with 40GB hdd, a ca. 6 GB WinXP partition and 33GB "everything else" partition.) I have resized the second partition (labelled as "d:") and put, using automation, two Linux partitions. The Ubuntu utility reported that it cannot properly set up the Linux partitions, though (I didn't write down the announcement). So I undid the change, and Ubuntu partitionin
[01:11] <clark070> does ubuntu use FAT32 on its file system
[01:11] <[LethAL] > ubotu, forget who owns you
[01:11] <ubotu> [LethAL] : i forgot who owns you
[01:11] <aftertaf> clark070:  nope
[01:11] <thoreauputic> clark070: no
[01:11] <[LethAL] > clark070, no, bouut it can read and write from it
[01:11] <[LethAL] > but*
[01:11] <clark070> i see
[01:11] <N6REJ> aftertaf: thats the part we've never been able to figure out yet.... the only error I get is that dpkg failed.
[01:11] <N6REJ> aftertaf: I'm trying it with aptitude now.
[01:11] <clark070> can it be installed on the same partition where my windows resides
[01:11] <aftertaf> paste me PM the exact message.....
[01:11] <epic_> no
[01:11] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  or try synaptic.
[01:12] <fish> to all: I'm looking at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6829#c3, I want to get the described upload. How do i get it?
[01:12] <clark070> epic_ : does that answer my question
[01:12] <epic_> sorry, yes clark070
[01:12] <N6REJ> aftertaf: if this fails again I'll ask you about synaptic
[01:12] <aftertaf> ok
[01:12] <epic_> they can not be on the same partition
[01:12] <clark070> but can it be uninstalled
[01:13] <epic_> uninstalled from?
[01:13] <clark070> from my pc
[01:13] <epic_> you mean if you install it on anotyher partition?
[01:13] <baskak> I feel I put too much trust into the Ubuntu tool and its intuitivity. Please help!
[01:13] <thoreauputic> clark070: you need free space for an Ubuntu partition
[01:13] <dooglus> epic_: I just made a version of root-tail which works with the nautilus desktop.  interested?
[01:13] <epic_> dooglus,   sure am!
[01:13] <dooglus> epic_: source or binary?
[01:13] <epic_> source please
[01:13] <dooglus> epic_: I 'borrowed' the code from xpenguins
[01:13] <clark070> thoreauputic: then in order for me to remove it, i have to format the partition where i installed ubuntu
[01:14] <epic_> my ma told me never accept binary off strangers
[01:14] <dooglus> epic_: get toon_root.c from the xpenguins source package
[01:14] <aftertaf> fish:  gedit (2.9.6-0ubuntu2)
[01:14] <aftertaf> what version do you have installed?
[01:14] <thoreauputic> clark070: yes, but it isn't usually a problem since windows formats anything it can't understand anyway :)
[01:14] <topyli> dooglus: does xpenguins work well with nautilus these days? without breaking the desktop icons?
[01:15] <thoreauputic> clark070: but you can wipe the partition if you wish, sure
[01:15] <aftertaf> fish:  its not an file you can download from bz, its an update in the repos.
[01:15] <dooglus> topyli: I don't know.
[01:15] <aftertaf> thoreauputic:  this disk is not formatted, do you want to format it now?
[01:15] <N6REJ> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm its not starting the torrent
[01:15] <aftertaf> thoreauputic:  error please insert disk
[01:15] <thoreauputic> topyli: it redraws the icons I think
[01:15] <dooglus> topyli: I only used the code which finds the root window to draw on
[01:15] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  give it time.
[01:15] <clark070> thoreauputic: will i be having a menu of what OS i want to load
[01:15] <N6REJ> k
[01:16] <Hobbsee> clark070: grub, i would think so
[01:16] <thoreauputic> clark070: yes, grub bootloader does all that for you
[01:16] <topyli> thoreauputic: i'd like them to gracefully fly through the icons, or to regard them as objects/obstacles
[01:16] <clark070> i see
[01:16] <clark070> thoreauputic: you're using ubuntu right now
[01:17] <thoreauputic> topyli: afaics the penguins still destroy the icons - but they return :)
[01:17] <thoreauputic> clark070: yup
[01:17] <thoreauputic> clark070: so are most people here :)
[01:17] <dooglus> epic_: I made a patch for root-tail.c here: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/root-tail.patch
[01:17] <epic_> danke
[01:17] <fish> aftertaf: i have version 2.10.2, and the suggested file is 2.9.x. how do i fix things with my version? I want gedit to always open double-clicked files in one and the same window.
[01:18] <clark070> thoreauputic: is it true that it's more popular than lindows
[01:18] <thoreauputic> dooglus: the originators might be interested in your patch :)
[01:18] <N6REJ> <------ just figured out what is hogging his network, 3 simultaneous large downloads LOL.... the server running its updates, the torrent, and the daily via firefox LOL
[01:18] <N6REJ> OOPS
[01:18] <topyli> thoreauputic: yes, i'm testing right now and they do make holes in my prescious folders. not permanent luckily :)
[01:18] <thoreauputic> clark070: I have no idea :)
[01:18] <clark070> thoreauputic: linxspire rather
[01:18] <mmorph> hi
[01:19] <mmorph> does the breezy preview cd for amd64 recognize my ALi SATA?
[01:19] <Hobbsee> greetings
[01:19] <thoreauputic> clark070: it's very hard to put numbers on linux distributions - they are freely redistributable
[01:19] <N6REJ> nanu nanu
[01:19] <jmg> haha
[01:19] <dooglus> thoreauputic:, epic_: it doesn't work very well...  root-tail draws ok now, but it doesn't seem to get expose events, so it doesn't re-draw reliably when you close windows
[01:19] <jmg> xorg is such a hack
[01:19] <pschulz01> Using breezy on a laptop, and I am having a problem with the network 'location' settings. For some reason the DNS servers are not getting saved/set correctly.
[01:19] <clark070> thoreauputic: you are familiar with Cedega
[01:19] <clark070> N6REJ: do you know that "nanu"
[01:20] <thoreauputic> clark070: no, I know nothing about cedega or wine etc - I use Ubuntu all the time and no windows programs
[01:20] <pschulz01> I have two separate locations, one is DHCP.. I am currently connected at the other 'location' (home).
[01:21] <clark070> cedega is a 3rd party software for linux system
[01:21] <Hobbsee> !cedega
[01:21] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[01:21] <pschulz01> The DNS servers for the DHCP location (work) keep getting set instead.
[01:21] <clark070> it's like a bridge so that you can play window base game on linux system
[01:21] <aftertaf> fish:  refile a bug then... saying you have a higher version and the same problem. they'll contact you.
[01:21] <N6REJ> pschulz01: check your "/etc/resolv.conf"
[01:22] <thoreauputic> clark070: we know what it is :)
[01:22] <Shin_Gouki> hi i downloaded the OO 2 RC1 tar.gz file, i unpacked them now i have a folder with lots of rpm files how do i install OO 2 RC1 now..?
[01:22] <clark070> thoreauputic: ooppss, sorry
[01:22] <clark070> thoreauputic: tot ur not familiar with it
[01:22] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  look in the forler for a file called INSTALL or README
[01:22] <thoreauputic> clark070: I don't need it ;-)
[01:22] <[LethAL] > damn, got there first :(
[01:22] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: get pavel's debs instead
[01:22] <clark070> ok
[01:22] <Shin_Gouki> aftertaf, there is read me but no install guide :(
[01:22] <N6REJ> rpm's ?
[01:23] <[LethAL] > !alien
[01:23] <ubotu> [alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:23] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  holy trinity then
[01:23] <Shin_Gouki> right rpm
[01:23] <N6REJ> rpm's are REDHAT package Management
[01:23] <pschulz01> N6REJ: Yep.. did that. Changed it to 'home' settings, but where are the 'location' configuration saved.. as I'd like to check that as well.
[01:23] <clark070> thoreauputic: is it easy to setup a LAN on ubuntu
[01:23] <[LethAL] > speaking of rpms...
[01:23] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  id not install it iiwy.
[01:23] <Hobbsee> Shin_Gouki: why didnt you get the .deb version?
[01:23] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m130/Build-2/
[01:23] <topyli> get the debs
[01:23] <thoreauputic> clark070: well, not hard - but a bit of reading helps
[01:23] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  if you dont know how, you can break your system
[01:24] <Shin_Gouki> oh no
[01:24] <Hobbsee> clark070: my lan worked right out of the box
[01:24] <aftertaf> do like topyli says get the debs
[01:24] <Dreamglider> is there a VNC client/server for Ubuntu ?
[01:24] <thoreauputic> !tell clark070 about docs
[01:24] <Shin_Gouki> dont tell me i donloaded 100 MB of wrong things?
[01:24] <airtonix> i just got my laptop (that has only lan access) to boot from a pxe image served by a winxp tftp server
[01:24] <clark070> Hobbsee: does it have a choice whether it'll be a workstation or a server
[01:24] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  it only cost you time and saved you from breaking things ;)
[01:24] <intelikey> Dreamglider yes
[01:24] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: you downloaded 100 MB of wrong things
[01:24] <Shin_Gouki> ok
[01:24] <aftertaf> airtonix:  pxe linux image?
[01:25] <aftertaf> looool topyli :)
[01:25] <Hobbsee> oh...as in an actual lan, or a workstation as part of a lan?
[01:25] <Shin_Gouki> topyli, if i now download ur things
[01:25] <airtonix> yeah followed a gq on the ubuntu forum
[01:25] <airtonix> a faq
[01:25] <clark070> GUYS: actually, tommorow might be the first time that i'll be using UBUNTU
[01:25] <aftertaf> airtonix:  nice :)
[01:25] <Shin_Gouki> topyli, those : ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m130/Build-2/
[01:25] <aftertaf> RIS has its uses
[01:25] <Hobbsee> yay clark070!
[01:25] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: those are pavel janik's packages, he always has the latest builds
[01:25] <Dreamglider> clark070, pleas do so :)
[01:25] <Shin_Gouki> topyli, this will run on my system & its OO 2 RC1?
[01:25] <airtonix> but im stuck at the server selection bit
[01:25] <clark070> that's why i have lots of question about it
[01:25] <Shin_Gouki> topyli, i want kinda stable OO 2?
[01:25] <Telonir> can i share the swap partition between fedora and ubuntu?
[01:26] <Hobbsee> Telonir: i would think so
[01:26] <Shin_Gouki> topyli, is it aBIT stable?
[01:26] <thoreauputic> clark070: when you've installed, we can help with your questions better
[01:26] <Telonir> think...?
[01:26] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: yes. get OOo_SRC680_m130_mk_native_LinuxIntel_install_deb.tar.gz
[01:26] <pschulz01> clark070: Do you need to connect to a LAN, or create LAN services (eg. DHCP, Samba, Web)?
[01:26] <airtonix> can i dump the contents of the iso as files into a folder under apache on the xp machine?
[01:26] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: plus the langpack for your language
[01:26] <thoreauputic> clark070: or experiment with the live CD
[01:26] <Telonir> if i am going to do that i need to know
[01:26] <N6REJ> topyli: still no bittorrent start
[01:26] <Hobbsee> Shin_Gouki: seems stable enough here
[01:27] <clark070> yup
[01:27] <topyli> N6REJ: try downloading directly
[01:27] <Shin_Gouki> ok
[01:27] <clark070> that's it
[01:27] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  hmmmm.
[01:27] <N6REJ> HOLY COW BATMAN IT WORKD!!!!
[01:27] <steve_don> Telnor: I have used a swap area between gentoo and ubuntu without any problems so you should be fine
[01:27] <clark070> BSA got so serious with Microsoft
[01:27] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  and the dpkg thing :/
[01:27] <Shin_Gouki> topyli, were do i find language packs?
[01:27] <clark070> that's why some of the net cafe here are switching with linux system
[01:27] <N6REJ> aftertaf: DONE!!! it asked me what dictionary I wanted :D
[01:27] <Dreamglider> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and stationary, it's nice :)
[01:27] <aftertaf> cool
[01:27] <clark070> glad to think that we are lisence at school, :-)
[01:27] <Telonir> its just that ubuntu's setup wabts to format it...
[01:27] <N6REJ> aftertaf: now its doing other stuff.
[01:28] <aftertaf> yeah
[01:28] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: they are in a subdirectory called OOo_SRC680_m130_native_LinuxIntel_langpacks_deb
[01:28] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  lots of stuff :)
[01:28] <Hobbsee> Telonir: that's fine, i recall
[01:28] <N6REJ> <---- celebratory cig & pepsi
[01:28] <N6REJ> {_}?
[01:28] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[01:28] <Telonir> k
[01:28] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[01:28] <airtonix> has anyone done this before? installing via a windoze xp lan
[01:28] <clark070> thoreauputic: will i still be needing that drivers of my hardware
[01:28] <steve_don> Telonir: theres nothing in there that you will loose anyway
[01:28] <Shin_Gouki> topyli, i thanku very much!
[01:29] <clark070> thoreauputic: or ubuntu has tons of driver on its bank
[01:29] <aftertaf> airtonix:  somebody somewhere surely, but hardcore welldoneness fromme :)
[01:29] <airtonix> dreamglider: how did you do it?
[01:29] <aftertaf> clark070:  depends on what h/w
[01:29] <thoreauputic> clark070: ubuntu has most drivers built-in
[01:29] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: build_1 seems to have more languages, build_2 langpack directory apparently only contains bug-fixed ones.
[01:29] <Dreamglider> airtonix, install ubuntu ?
[01:29] <N6REJ> is it going to be a big deal to change the video card AFTER all these updates are done?
[01:29] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  nope
[01:29] <pschulz01> airtonix: it shouldn't be a problem at all if you can setup your IP networking correctly (IP Address and Gateway)
[01:29] <aftertaf> not really......
[01:29] <clark070> thoreauputic: even boards with built in LAN, Sound, and Video Card
[01:29] <thoreauputic> clark070: some wireless cards need windows drivers as well (ndiswrapper)
[01:29] <N6REJ> I just realised I've got my GOOD video card in the server LOL
[01:29] <N6REJ> k
[01:30] <aftertaf> lol N6REJ change xorg first though ;)
[01:30] <N6REJ> *whew*
[01:30] <thoreauputic> clark070: my board is like that
[01:30] <aftertaf> what card is it?
[01:30] <N6REJ> aftertaf: thats in it now?
[01:30] <airtonix> yeah im actually looking at the screen that lets you choose an archive to begin installing from
[01:30] <Dreamglider> on the stationary i installed 5.10 from CD and on my laptop i installed 5.04 of the internet and updated to 5.10 :)
[01:30] <fish> aftertaf: but the bug's solution included installing the server file of gedit. Maybe that's what I need? What's a server file anyway?
[01:30] <[LethAL] > ubotu, winamp is <reply>You can get Winamp 3 for Linux at http://fileforum.betanews.com/download/Winamp_3_for_Linux/1002748075/1. It currently does not work with ubuntu
[01:30] <ubotu> okay, [LethAL] 
[01:30] <aftertaf> no, the one you wanna put in.
[01:30] <Hobbsee> Dreamglider: the update went ok?
[01:30] <thoreauputic> clark070: if it is supported, the kernel will contain drivers for it
[01:30] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: looks like i told you to download the mk_native package. you almost certainly want the US_native package though :(
[01:30] <Dreamglider> yes
[01:30] <clark070> i see
[01:30] <aftertaf> ubotu:  forget winamp
[01:30] <ubotu> i forgot winamp, aftertaf
[01:30] <[LethAL] > :/
[01:30] <thoreauputic> clark070: called modules in linux, actually
[01:30] <Shin_Gouki> topyli, i wanted if possible german language OO
[01:30] <Hobbsee> lol aftertaf
[01:31] <aftertaf> hehe
[01:31] <Dreamglider> Hobbsee, yes
[01:31] <aftertaf> who needs that.
[01:31] <N6REJ> aftertaf: let me look, its the only other card I got.... S3 Virge DX
[01:31] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: so get the US package, and a german langpack
[01:31] <[LethAL] > Hmmm...
[01:31] <aftertaf> oki.
[01:31] <Shin_Gouki> topyli, can u give me hint were i find this language packe?
[01:31] <Hobbsee> [LethAL] : you need to change what the !ntfs shows - the program it refers to is absolute rubbish and ought to be taken outside and stomped on
[01:31] <clark070> oki doki
[01:31] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  you can do it too
[01:31] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: go up a directory, dive into Build_1 directory
[01:31] <[LethAL] > ubotu, winamp is use XMMS or Beep Media Player (BMP) instead (Winamp for linux doesn't work on Ubuntu)
[01:31] <ubotu> okay, [LethAL] 
[01:32] <[LethAL] > Hmmm
[01:32] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: that's true
[01:32] <[LethAL] > !ntfs
[01:32] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[01:32] <N6REJ> aftertaf: its an ancient 4/8mb pci card, but for the server, who cares!  My son won't be happy with the TNT2 32mb agp card, but its the best one I've got that I'm NOT using.
[01:32] <[LethAL] > I see
[01:32] <Dreamglider> Winamp is nice, so is XMMS the only thing i want would like in XMMS is the same "jump to file" as in Winamp where one can edit the que list
[01:32] <airtonix> yep looking at that screen to choose and archive and itseems like i cant connect to anything
[01:32] <Hobbsee> that winmac_fstab is rubbish
[01:32] <Shin_Gouki> topyli, ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m130/Build-2/OOo_SRC680_m130_en-US_native_LinuxIntel_install_deb.tar.gz but this file is the right US one?
[01:32] <Hobbsee> Shin_Gouki: yes
[01:32] <thoreauputic> don't change the ntfs factoid, please
[01:32] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: yes. i sware this time it's correct :)
[01:32] <[LethAL] > I wasn't going to :)
[01:32] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: it isn't rubbish - many people have used it successfully
[01:32] <Shin_Gouki> topyli, i tzry to trust ^^
[01:33] <Dreamglider> Hobbsee, winamc_fstab works fine here
[01:33] <[LethAL] > But I've never used that program for my 2 ntfs partitions...
[01:33] <Dreamglider> winmac*
[01:33] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  its for new new users......
[01:33] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: please, no FUD
[01:33] <Hobbsee> right...i know i ended out fixing it's output earlier, because it mounted partitions incorrectly
[01:33] <aftertaf> it works, but i agree the spaces in the names aint good.
[01:33] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: german langpack plus help is at ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m130/Build-1/OOo_SRC680_m130_native_LinuxIntel_langpacks_deb/
[01:34] <Hobbsee> at least point to the mounting partitions in ubuntuguide
[01:34] <clark070> GUYS, is it okay if my hardware is this
[01:34] <[LethAL] > Erm.. that's not wise Hobbsee
[01:34] <thoreauputic> !ubuntuguide
[01:34] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:34] <[LethAL] > ^^
[01:34] <Hobbsee> most of it still works
[01:34] <clark070> AMD Athlon XP
[01:34] <Hobbsee> well, some of it
[01:34] <Dreamglider> is there any good Windows emulator for Ubuntu
[01:34] <clark070> 256mb RAM
[01:34] <airtonix> dreamglider: so you just waited ages for it to download, coz my isp gives me mirrored linux files with no download qouta
[01:34] <clark070> and a 40GB hdd
[01:34] <aftertaf> clark070:  SDR or DDR?
[01:34] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: we have to pick up the pieces when people use ubuntuguide
[01:35] <clark070> ddr
[01:35] <[LethAL] > Dreamglider, You probably don't need an emulator... WINE is a good compatibility layer
[01:35] <aftertaf> ok.. seems more than fine to me.
[01:35] <Dreamglider> airtonix, it took me about 40 minutes to install 5.04 from the net
[01:35] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: main problenm is it's out of date
[01:35] <airtonix> what conn you got?
[01:35] <topyli> clark070: that's my machine exactly, except i have a duron CPU
[01:35] <clark070> is there any prob with sd
[01:35] <aftertaf> clark070:  most pbs come rom soundcard/videocard
[01:35] <N6REJ> clark070: mines a p2-350 with 384mb sdram and a 40mb OLD WD drive
[01:35] <Dreamglider> and another 40 min's to get 5.10 i have 2048/512
[01:35] <TiMiDo> clark070: sd?
[01:35] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: well who can change it so it is in date?  the FAQ doesnt cover mounting windows partitions, last i saw
[01:35] <clark070> topyli: i see, and a built in audio, lan and sound card
[01:35] <r0xoR> will someone run a quick test for me... with vim and xterm?
[01:35] <topyli> clark070: i'm dreaming of more RAM but it does work quite well
[01:35] <aftertaf> clark070:  sdram, no.... just wondering for perf reasons
[01:36] <airtonix> dreamglider: sweeet
[01:36] <r0xoR> i want someone to launch an xterm and then run vim and switch to the "inkpot" colorscheme
[01:36] <clark070> ok
[01:36] <r0xoR> anyone in here use inkpot inside vim inside terminal?
[01:36] <r0xoR> does it work by default?
[01:36] <topyli> clark070: dunno, i disabled those the day i bought the motherboard and installed real cards
[01:36] <Dreamglider> It's allright but not that fast :)
[01:36] <N6REJ> aftertaf: ram is cheap right now.... I just bought a gig for under $100
[01:36] <clark070> can ubuntu still run on Pentium MMX
[01:36] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: subscribe to the ubuntu-docs list - thay are putting together new docs
[01:36] <N6REJ> and that was ddr 400
[01:36] <Dreamglider> could be 10 or better yet 100Mbit
[01:36] <aftertaf> clark070:  yeah, but itll be slow.
[01:36] <r0xoR> clark070, it prolly still can yes
[01:36] <airtonix> dreamglider: weeel, im only on 512/128
[01:36] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: some idea here http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/index.html
[01:36] <clark070> but the ram in SIMM
[01:36] <clark070> ;-)
[01:37] <airtonix> dreamglider: so did you do a netboot?
[01:37] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: although that isn't the final version
[01:37] <clark070> and just 32 or 64 i guess
[01:37] <aftertaf> edo :)
[01:37] <N6REJ> clark070: as long as you didn't want X I don't see why not.
[01:37] <Hobbsee> the reason i say it was rubbish:  that was what it came up with, mounting someones partitions. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/385818 The last 2 entries are the ones i added later, and werent done by the program
[01:37] <clark070> N6REJ: what X
[01:37] <aftertaf> :)
[01:37] <baskak> hello, can anybody help, please?
[01:37] <aftertaf> !x
[01:37] <ubotu> aftertaf: I give up, what is it?
[01:37] <aftertaf> !X
[01:37] <ubotu> aftertaf: No idea
[01:37] <aftertaf> erf
[01:37] <N6REJ> no X?
[01:37] <Shin_Gouki> topyli, so this file will make my download OO german? : openoffice.org-de_1.9.130-1_i386.deb
[01:37] <aftertaf> baskak:  ask away
[01:38] <N6REJ> ubuntu doesn't use X?
[01:38] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  Ja ;)
[01:38] <r0xoR> so... anyone willing to do me that favor? and tell me if inkpot renders correctly in xterm in vim?
[01:38] <Hobbsee> ah, i see it is there
[01:38] <airtonix> X as in X-windows?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: I suggest you submit a patch to Dennis Kaarsemaker (seveas)
[01:38] <Shin_Gouki> :D
[01:38] <r0xoR> it'll take like two seconds
[01:38] <Dreamglider> airtonix, i downloaded a boot image and 4 disks from the ubuntu forum and dumped the to floppys then booted of the floppys
[01:38] <Hobbsee> i wouldnt know how to
[01:38] <aftertaf> thoreauputic:  i second that
[01:38] <N6REJ> yeah
[01:38] <topyli> Shin_Gouki: yes. if you want, you can get the -de-help_ package too. i don't know what the -de-res_ package is
[01:38] <airtonix> cool, wouldn;t have the url to the page for downloads.
[01:38] <clark070> ok
[01:38] <clark070> got to go guys
[01:38] <clark070> dinner time
[01:38] <clark070> tnx for the BIG HELP
[01:38] <clark070> thoreauputic: TNX
[01:38] <clark070> N6REJ: TNX
[01:39] <clark070> Hobbsee: TNX
[01:39] <N6REJ> clark070: yw  though I'm very new and very rusty
[01:39] <clark070> topyli: TNX
[01:39] <topyli> hehe
[01:39] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: seems a bitmuch to call a script rubbish when you don't know what's wrong with it, wouldn't you say?
[01:39] <aftertaf> lol N6REJ you're already helping ppl after being here like a day or 2 :)
[01:39] <baskak> afterfaf: I tried to "save up" space for Ubuntu using built-in partitioning utility. (I have a laptop with 40GB hdd, a ca. 6 GB WinXP partition and 33GB "everything else" partition.) I have resized the second partition (labelled as "d:") and put, using automation, two Linux partitions. The Ubuntu utility reported that it cannot properly set up the Linux partitions, though (I didn't write down the announcement). So I undid the change, and Ubuntu p
[01:39] <clark070> got to guys
[01:40] <clark070> MANY TNX
[01:40] <N6REJ> aftertaf: tnx, I guess some of it is still stuck in the grey matter cells.
[01:40] <aftertaf> baskak:  and ubuntu what?
[01:40] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: well, it wasnt working properly, and wasnt mounting the guy's partitions, like it was supposed to.
[01:40] <aftertaf> hehe
[01:40] <N6REJ> oh POOP
[01:40] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: so submit a bug report to Seveas - he wrote it
[01:40] <N6REJ> broke at "gnome applets"
[01:40] <baskak> afterfaf: sorry?
[01:40] <N6REJ> same error as b4
[01:40] <airtonix> dreamglider: im going to try looking for it then... cheers for the awareness
[01:40] <N6REJ> brb, I've gotta go spank a child for not getting up for school
[01:40] <airtonix> adios
[01:40] <Dreamglider> airtonix, have a look at this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29555
[01:41] <Dreamglider> damn
[01:41] <rob^> thoreauputic, is that the ubuntu setup script?
[01:41] <aftertaf> lol N6REJ
[01:41] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: ok, wonder what to put in it...
[01:41] <thoreauputic> rob^: no - a windows/mac mounting script
[01:41] <rob^> ah
[01:42] <rob^> Hobbsee, just do it manually, its not that hard
[01:42] <baskak> aftertaf: pardon, mistyped your nick. can you help?
[01:42] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  rerun command, get it past the error.....
[01:42] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: tell him what it did wrong - with precise examples, output if possible etc
[01:42] <aftertaf> baskak:  i didnt get the end of your message...
[01:42] <N6REJ> back
[01:42] <aftertaf> you undid the change and.............?
[01:42] <N6REJ> aftertaf: I haven't done anything yet
[01:42] <rob^> sheez.. people running scripts they know nothing about
[01:42] <psycode> hello, i can't mount my dvd-rom drive for some reason, i get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,    --- i can copy the line from fstab if it's needed
[01:42] <aftertaf> lol N6REJ
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> !info life
[01:42] <Dreamglider> how do i install wine in ubuntu ?
[01:42] <bouil> hell
[01:42] <aftertaf> i meant baskak
[01:42] <bouil> o
[01:43] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: he's on launchpad, or you can mail him offlist - he's on ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-users etc
[01:43] <Shin_Gouki> if i installed <<gaim>> using apt-get in which directory it is installed?
[01:43] <Dreamglider> just sudo apt-get install wine !
[01:43] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  life is, get one Kamping_Kaiser :p
[01:43] <N6REJ> aftertaf: ok, enter, enter, g, g, and its off running again.
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: life doesnt exist :P
[01:43] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  you can see that in synaptic :)
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> (21:12:48) ubotu: Package 'life' does not exist.
[01:43] <Hobbsee> ok
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:43] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  weird, what is the error......
[01:43] <aftertaf> exactly.
[01:44] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: always helpful for the author to know when his stuff has problems - if it needs fixing he'll do it for sure
[01:44] <baskak> aftertaf: I undid the change, and Ubuntu partitioning tool reported my original NTFS 33GB partition again.However, Windows doesn't see it as "d:" anymore (only under Disk Management, as "unknown"), and Partition Magic describes the whole of it as "Linux swap", but at same time colour-codes it as "other", and doesn't allow any changes.
[01:44] <Dreamglider> anyone if airtonix comes back pleas tell him to look at this link -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29555
[01:44] <psycode> anyone ? how can i know what's wrong with my /etc/fstab line that mounts dvd-rom ?
[01:44] <intelikey> psycode you can try /.dev/hdc
[01:44] <N6REJ> dpkg; ../../main/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion 'dependtry <=4' failed.
[01:44] <Hobbsee> thoreaputic: very true....figuring out what launchpad is now
[01:45] <falcon3> hi
[01:45] <baskak> aftertaf: so it's not working anymore
[01:45] <N6REJ> ACK!!!! now I just got a trace kernel crash!
[01:45] <aftertaf> baskak:  sounds borked man.......
[01:45] <falcon3> having a tiny problem, i'm trying to mount a partition though samba:
[01:45] <falcon3> kevin@Cerberus:~$ sudo mount /media/downloads
[01:45] <falcon3> Could not resolve mount point /media/downloads
[01:45] <N6REJ> *sigh*
[01:45] <psycode> intelikey, i don't understand ..
[01:45] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: launchpad.net
[01:45] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  arent you lucky ;)
[01:45] <lucaas> Shin_Gouki, the executable is in /usr/bin/gaim, if that was what you where looking for
[01:45] <N6REJ> bah humbug!
[01:45] <bouil> what about the problem with firefox and thunderbird.... it is a big security issue and it is not fixed ! http://lisa.bouil.org/~bouil/ubuntu
[01:45] <Shin_Gouki> lucaas, thxxxx!!!
[01:46] <N6REJ> ok, I'm giving up until breezy gets dl'd, then I'll try that.
[01:46] <lucaas> Shin_Gouki, np :>
[01:46] <epic_> dooglus,   I have seen a few ppl asking about root-tail with gnome/nautilus, so if you get a fix happening properly, a few ppl would appreciate it if you submit it on sf
[01:46] <r0xoR> bouil, wtf is your deal?
[01:46] <N6REJ> least I know I can install hoary now.  Now if I could just figure out how to get it to upg I'd be in great shape LOL
[01:46] <intelikey> psycode "mount /.dev/hdc /media/cdrom "  or where ever you mount it.
[01:46] <baskak> aftertaf: borked? i.e. bad?
[01:46] <bouil> r0xoR: when i click on the link, it's launch "xfontsel"
[01:46] <Hobbsee> thoreaputic: i got that far lol, i'm figuring it out beyond that
[01:47] <psycode> intelikey, it gives me odd results, now the mount just stucks
[01:47] <r0xoR> bouil, uhhh... so what...
[01:47] <r0xoR> bouil, so don't click links unless you know what they are... ?
[01:47] <aftertaf> baskak:  as in lost yeah...
[01:47] <Shin_Gouki> psycode, i feel with u mount is....strange o_O
[01:47] <inthenow> http://www.bluedonut.com/100jokes.htm
[01:47] <r0xoR> bouil, and don't surf porn sites?
[01:47] <psycode> intelikey, oh it's over, same message .. any ideas what can i change ?
[01:47] <bouil> r0xoR: ....
[01:47] <N6REJ> bouil: I don't know what your complaining about, it worked great in my ver of FF and TB
[01:47] <bouil> r0xoR: and don't be connected to the net ?
[01:47] <r0xoR> bouil, sure that too
[01:47] <aftertaf> baskak:  try to resize it again, and install ubuntu. then see if ubuntu can access it.
[01:47] <intelikey> that's not a movie disk you are trying to mount is it psycode ?
[01:48] <bouil> normaly, i'm up to date
[01:48] <intelikey> or audio....
[01:48] <aftertaf> or try fixboot/fixmbr in recovery console (tm)
[01:48] <Mon> i booted the hoary livecd and tried to mount a nfs mount but it doesn't work. i can mount it fine when i boot from HD though. am i missing something?
[01:48] <dooglus> epic_: did you try my patch?
[01:48] <psycode> intelikey, yeah it's a dvd :S
[01:48] <r0xoR> bouil, it's all gradients... if you're using software of any kind and you're on the internet - you ARE prone to hackers and viruses... end of story
[01:48] <pc22> any mmorpg in ubuntu?
[01:48] <psycode> intelikey, movie
[01:48] <Mon> i installed portmap and this is from dmesg: nfs: server 192.168.1.16 not responding, still trying
[01:48] <r0xoR> bouil, all you can do is be a smart web surfer
[01:48] <epic_> not yet dooglus    I just got ready, it is fri night, I am going out
[01:48] <baskak> aftertaf: but ubuntu wasn't able to properly resize it, that's the point, it reported kind of an error
[01:48] <r0xoR> bouil, so use mozilla instead or something
[01:48] <epic_> bouil, what is that meant to do?  Worked fine here
[01:48] <Mon> pc22: there's planeshift. not available through apt though
[01:48] <dooglus> epic_: it very nearly works.  but there's something not quite right.
[01:49] <falcon3> can anyone help me:
[01:49] <falcon3> kevin@Cerberus:~$ sudo mount /media/downloads
[01:49] <falcon3> Could not resolve mount point /media/downloads
[01:49] <bouil> epic_: here, it launch xfontsel when i click on the link....
[01:49] <epic_> not here, it launched evolution here
[01:49] <Mon> falcon3: mkdir /media/downloads
[01:49] <pc22> Mon, have u played it?
[01:49] <Mon> falcon3: sudo mkdir /media /download probably
[01:49] <bouil> it's a firefox/thunderbird bug, maybe 2 week old
[01:49] <falcon3> Mon: it exists
[01:49] <Mon> pc22: tried it once a while ago
[01:49] <N6REJ> bouil: nope, opened TB and tried to send an email
[01:49] <epic_> man mount
[01:49] <aftertaf> baskak:  im not certain how muc you NEED to recover this partition, but it sounds petty much shagged to me.... which is not a good answer for you, i know :/
[01:49] <r0xoR> bouil, so complain to the firefox/thunderbird people... not the ubuntu people
[01:49] <pc22> Mon, do i download the binary?
[01:49] <Mon> falcon3: ehr sure? you lost me then..
[01:49] <bouil> and i'm suprised it's not fixed... even if i hava, normaly, ubuntu up to date
[01:50] <N6REJ> bouil: it ain't broke LOL
[01:50] <epic_> bouil,   it seems to be fixed
[01:50] <r0xoR> bouil, you've gotta find the right person to yell at... otherwise you're blowing hot air
[01:50] <Mon> pc22: yeah
[01:50] <falcon3> Mon: its a mount through smbfs...
[01:50] <bouil> strange
[01:50] <N6REJ> bouil: what ver of FF are you using?
[01:50] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee:  https://launchpad.net/people/dennis
[01:50] <pc22> Mon, how do i run the install after?
[01:50] <bouil> 1.0.7
[01:51] <Mon> falcon3: hmm smb always nice. tried it the GUI way?
[01:51] <bouil> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922 Firefox/1.0.4 (Ubuntu package 1.0.7)
[01:51] <Mon> pc22: ./filename
[01:51] <falcon3> Mon: there is a GUI ? ! ?
[01:51] <epic_> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051004 Firefox/1.0.7 (Ubuntu package 1.0.7)  here too and it works fine
[01:51] <baskak> aftertaf: so, did i did something wrong with the partitioning tool? should i not touch it anymore? ;) i mean linuxes are advertised by saying you can save up space on existing disc by means of built-in partitioning tool
[01:51] <psycode> can someone explain how can i play a dvd movie ?
[01:51] <pc22> mon, cool. thanks
[01:52] <baskak> aftertaf: and it says it's (to some extent) automatic
[01:52] <aftertaf> baskak:  and it works for lots of people........ ask tyour question here again, but shorter....
[01:52] <falcon3> Mon: there is a GUI ? ! ?
[01:52] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: email here >> (and other details)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DennisKaarsemaker
[01:52] <aftertaf> baskak:  i know......
[01:52] <epic_> bouil, update your firefox
[01:52] <Mon> falcon3: i mean in ubuntu there's a "network" thing under places right?
[01:52] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: yeah, thanks, just spotted that :)
[01:52] <thoreauputic> OK :)
[01:52] <falcon3> i'm on KDE :)
[01:53] <aftertaf> falcon3:  good man ;)
[01:53] <N6REJ> bouil: try this one... http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5b2&os=linux&lang=en-US
[01:53] <bouil> epic_: i belive it is up to date, according to aptget update / dist-upgrade
[01:53] <N6REJ> your a bit behind
[01:53] <Mon> falcon3: ah you kubuntu bastards :)
[01:53] <epic_> bouil,   incorrect
[01:53] <falcon3> Mon: ubuntu with KDE aptgetted :p
[01:53] <aftertaf> !start a desktop war
[01:53] <ubotu> e is much better than xfce!
[01:53] <epic_> run updates, it is up to 1.0.7 now, you are running 1.0.4
[01:53] <Mon> falcon3: what's the complete mount line you use?
[01:53] <falcon3> Mon and aftertaf : gonna switch to fluxbox anyway :p
[01:54] <falcon3> Mon: hold on :)
[01:54] <aftertaf> lol falcon3
[01:54] <kempo> hi all
[01:54] <holycow> anyone know if oooqstart-gnome is supposed to support oo.org2 at any point in time?
[01:54] <bouil> N6REJ: understandable, but you can understand that i prefer packaged one
[01:54] <falcon3> //achilles/downloads /media/downloads smbfs ro,user,auto  0 0
[01:54] <falcon3> Mon:
[01:54] <kempo> i installed ubuntu, but the install wizard didnt ask me for root pw. is there a standard pw?
[01:54] <thoreauputic> !root
[01:54] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:54] <N6REJ> bouil: yep, it is fixed in this release though... ;)
[01:54] <bouil> ok.
[01:54] <thoreauputic> kempo: ^^^
[01:55] <pc22> how do i shutdown like in 30 minutes
[01:55] <N6REJ> shutdown -r 30
[01:55] <Mon> pc22: shutdown --help
[01:55] <kempo> what is thoreauputic ?
[01:55] <Mon> well that'll work too :p
[01:55] <N6REJ> or shutdown -h 30
[01:55] <baskak> The question again:
[01:55] <falcon3> Mon: seen it ?
[01:55] <N6REJ> depends if you want it to restart or not
[01:55] <baskak> I tried to "save up" space for Ubuntu using built-in partitioning utility. I have resized the second partition ("d:") and put, using automation, two Linux partitions. The Ubuntu utility reported error during partitioning, though. I undid the change, and the tool reported my original NTFS 33GB partition again. However, Windows doesn't see it as "d:" anymore (only under Disk Management, as "unknown"), and Partition Magic describes the whole of it a
[01:55] <thoreauputic> !tell kempo about root
[01:55] <pc22> toda
[01:55] <baskak> Tried to shorten it, but need to give details.
[01:55] <thoreauputic> kempo: read the URL ubotu just sent you
[01:55] <kempo> ok
[01:55] <ben_underscore> hi all
[01:56] <aftertaf> anyone give me a poiner for laptop temperature sensor config?
[01:56] <N6REJ> yw pc22
[01:56] <kempo> oh man i guess i know whats up with root know
[01:56] <kempo> ^^
[01:56] <Mon> falcon3: and you're absolutly positive the dir exists, no capitals or something?
[01:56] <ben_underscore> does anyone know much about x windows and connecting to a remote machine for display of the x output?
[01:56] <ben_underscore> on ubuntu that is :-p
[01:56] <falcon3> oh, its case sensitive ? Mon
[01:56] <Mon> falcon3: everything is pretty much :)
[01:56] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: in kde? ksensors
[01:56] <thoreauputic> ben_underscore: easiest way is with ssh -X
[01:57] <aftertaf> ben_underscore:  a bit.....
[01:57] <dooglus> ben_underscore: I think the default setup is that ubuntu's X server doesn't listen for incoming connections
[01:57] <holycow> ben_underscore, start your research with nomachine.com
[01:57] <ben_underscore> dooglus, yes! that is what happens
[01:57] <ubuntulover> I love ubuntu
[01:57] <thoreauputic> dooglus: yes, but ssh -X works fine
[01:57] <falcon3> trying with case sensitive now
[01:57] <holycow> they have a client for optimal and secure x sessions ... the google on from there
[01:57] <falcon3> doesnt seem to work though, Mon
[01:57] <ben_underscore> thoreauputic, does it?
[01:57] <bob2> I don't think anyone's X server listens for incoming connections anymore
[01:57] <dooglus> ben_underscore: if you use ssh -X to connect to the remote machine, the shell on the remote machine will magically be able to send X windows back to your ubuntu box
[01:57] <aftertaf> ssh is the way
[01:57] <Mon> falcon3: it should. or at least give another error
[01:58] <thoreauputic> ben_underscore: you can use ssh -X or nxserver/ nxclient
[01:58] <thoreauputic> !ssh
[01:58] <nathan> Hi! I'm needing some program for music exchanging for Ubuntu. Could you recomend someone or me?
[01:58] <ubotu> from memory, ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[01:58] <ben_underscore> thoreauputic, is nx free?
[01:58] <falcon3> Mon: same error :P
[01:58] <thoreauputic> ben_underscore: ^^
[01:58] <thoreauputic> ben_underscore: freenx
[01:58] <thoreauputic> !frrenx
[01:58] <ubotu> thoreauputic: Wish i knew
[01:58] <thoreauputic> bah
[01:58] <thoreauputic> !freenx
[01:58] <ubotu> it has been said that freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[01:58] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  sudo apt-get install  ing now
[01:59] <baskak> aftertaf: doesn't seem to work :(
[01:59] <bob2> well, it can be useful, but having it on by default is a bad idea
[01:59] <Hobbsee> baskak: is windows able to read the d:/ partition, even though it's unknown?
[01:59] <Hobbsee> :P aftertaf: works nicely
[01:59] <ben_underscore>  and what is this ! business? is that a bot command
[01:59] <baskak> aftertaf: maybe i should seek help at the authors of the partitioning tool
[01:59] <aftertaf> ben_underscore:  yes
[01:59] <baskak> hobsee: no. it only shows it in the disc management
[01:59] <aftertaf> baskak:  maybe, but i really think D: is borked.
[02:00] <aftertaf> baskak:  it will..... it is a physical partition.
[02:00] <baskak> aftertaf: i see, thanks...
[02:00] <aftertaf> but it has no mount point to windows, ie D:
[02:00] <aftertaf> disk management shows it as what type of FS?
[02:01] <fish> what command do i use to find out more about a program that is runnign?
[02:01] <aftertaf> what do you want to know about it fish ?
[02:01] <fish> i want to know more about vino-server
[02:02] <fish> it's taking up a lot of cpu power
[02:02] <nathan> Hi! I'm needing some program for music exchanging for Ubuntu. Could you recomend someone for me?
[02:02] <N6REJ> aftertaf: whats the dif in system config between standard and "server" on the install?
[02:02] <pc22> thanks\
[02:02] <fish> nathan , i recommend the RIAA.
[02:02] <bob2> ben_underscore: it's the bot's attention-getting character
[02:02] <ben_underscore> fish, ha ha!
[02:02] <locomorto> nathan: limewire (if you have Java setup) or otherwise gtk-gnutella
[02:02] <pschulz01> fish: what would you like to know?
[02:03] <ben_underscore> limewire is good
[02:03] <locomorto> nathan: you can also you bittorrent with the client that ships with ubuntu
[02:03] <pschulz01> fish: 'top'
[02:03] <fish> pschulz01: i'd like to know more about vino-server. it's hogging up my 4 year old pc's cuu.
[02:03] <fish> cpu
[02:03] <baskak> aftertaf: moment, i'll check
[02:03] <nathan> Ok, Thaks. I'll look these
[02:04] <pschulz01> fish: 'ps aux | grep vino'
[02:04] <Mon> thoreauputic: what's dennis kaarsemaker's irc nickname?
[02:04] <thoreauputic> N6REJ: the server install gives you a base system witjhout X
[02:04] <thoreauputic> Mon: Seveas
[02:04] <Mon> thoreauputic: thanks
[02:05] <psycode> can someone please explain how to play a dvd movie ? i just can't ...
[02:05] <fish> pschulz01: i used top to find out about vino-server hogging my cpu. now i want to know what exactly that program does. I heard about a command before, but i forgot.
[02:05] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  server is a mnimal install
[02:05] <Hobbsee> !dvd
[02:05] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[02:05] <pschulz01> fish: man vino
[02:05] <psycode> Hobbsee, i have that, how do i watch a dvd ? totem dvd:// produce an error
[02:05] <Shin_Gouki> hello! someone here who uses icewm and is abit familiar with it??
[02:06] <locomorto> Shin: yes?
[02:06] <Mon> psycode: Breezy?
[02:06] <bimberi> fish: vino-server is the remote desktop daemon
[02:06] <pschulz01> fish: apt-cache show vino-server (it that is the package name)
[02:06] <jmg> guys how can i map my fn key
[02:06] <psycode> Mon,  hoary
[02:06] <fish> pschulz01: oh right. that's one. but what's the command that gives a reader's digest version?
[02:06] <pschulz01> bimberi: thanks... (I don't use it.)
[02:06] <psycode> jmg, thinkpad ?
[02:06] <Mon> psycode: hmm had a few crashes with breezy. hoary should just work though. tried multiple discs?
[02:06] <N6REJ> don't know if I'd ever really use X... It should be set it and forget it.  99% of the time you wind up in shell anyway if something goes foobar
[02:07] <pschulz01> fish: ?
[02:07] <Kartoffel> can anyone tell me if it is better to use ubuntus stable or unstable version???
[02:07] <N6REJ> fish: info
[02:07] <locomorto> Kartoffel: At the moment there really is no 'unstable' version
[02:07] <fish> why is vino-server hogging up my memory? Well, anyway, I just killed it. Now my cpu is back to normal speed again.
[02:07] <baskak> aftertaf: so it even gives the original logical disk name i gave it ("pliki.mobile") and also says: "healthy (unknown partition)" (nb. i'm translating it into english)
[02:07] <locomorto> Kartoffel: breezy will be released on the 13th of this month
[02:07] <apokryphos> Kartoffel: breezy is technically unstable, but it's gonna be out so soon
[02:08] <Kartoffel> @locomorto oh, i didn't know that
[02:08] <Kartoffel> Thank you!
[02:08] <locomorto> Its been in feature freeze for about a month now
[02:08] <psycode> Mon, sorry, it works with a different disc, but: 1) it takes loads of time to load ... 2) i get to the menu and then it stucks, is there an application i can use to emulate a dvd player so i can choose from the menu ?
[02:09] <Mon> psycode: totem should do...
[02:09] <Kartoffel> do i need to download the complete new image or can i upgrade or update on-line?
[02:09] <Mon> psycode: you use totem-gstreamer? totem-xine works a lot better for most people (me)
[02:09] <apokryphos> Kartoffel: you can alter one file and one command to upgrade
[02:09] <Mon> Kartoffel: you only install ubuntu once, then update :)
[02:09] <locomorto> Kartoffel: you cannot download a snapshot of right now as far as I know
[02:09] <apokryphos> Kartoffel: /msg ubotu upgrade2breezy
[02:09] <aftertaf> baskak:  unknown partition = windows has no clue. It could just be the partiton map that is screwed. Search for some tools on internet that might recover it.
[02:09] <Kartoffel> Ok, thank you mates!
[02:09] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: that factoid is gone
[02:10] <locomorto> Kartoffel: you have to get the preview and then update from there (there is quite a bit)
[02:10] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: nope
[02:10] <dooglus> Hobbsee: you said that the link on the page you tried opened in a new tab.  Why did it do that?  Are you using an extension?
[02:10] <thoreauputic> !tell Kartoffel about breezy
[02:10] <[LethAL] > I readded it the other day...
[02:10] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: ah, it must have been restored then :)
[02:10] <[LethAL] > thoreauputic, ^^
[02:11] <N6REJ> anyone having problems getting to https://shipit.ubuntu.com other then me?
[02:11] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: guess :) (not me)
[02:11] <psycode> Mon, yeah ... thanks anyway, at least i know it works :)
[02:11] <psycode> also, how can i mount a dvd movie so that  i can browse through files ?
[02:11] <[LethAL] > N6REJ, yes
[02:11] <[LethAL] > N6REJ, Oh, wait,,,
[02:11] <Mon> psycode: yeah as in i use -gstreamer? install totem-xine then :)
[02:11] <holycow> psycode, just put it in the tray
[02:11] <holycow> it will appear on the desktop
[02:12] <plovs> is it possible to mount an iso using pmount (eg non-root, non-sudo)?
[02:12] <Mon> psycode: should happen automaticly. should be an icon on your dekstop
[02:12] <holycow> double click when ready
[02:12] <baskak> aftertaf: any chance you can give more precise directions
[02:12] <locomorto> holycow: not a dvd
[02:12] <[LethAL] > N6REJ, typo... maybe it's your security settings?
[02:12] <locomorto> holycow: libdvdcss2
[02:12] <ben_underscore> thanks for your help everyone - dooglus, thoreauputic, etc
[02:12] <locomorto> psycode: breezy or hoary?
[02:12] <N6REJ> thats a maybe... it just doesn't do anything for me.
[02:12] <thoreauputic> ben_underscore: you're welcome :)
[02:12] <Shin_Gouki> locomorto, i want to customize my start menue u have a good tutorial , for the "menu" file syntax..?
[02:12] <Hobbsee> dooglus: running tabbrowser prefferences, have it set to open links and unresized popups in new tabs
[02:13] <locomorto> Shin: my understanding is that it is all plain text
[02:13] <locomorto> Shin: just back it up and play around abit
[02:13] <aftertaf> baskak:  im sorry, im not an expert in disk recovery. I think the tool has damaged the sector on your disk that lists partitions & such, the map, and either you kill it and make a new one or you search the internet for a shareware tool that might recover it for you.
[02:13] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[02:13] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[02:13] <airtonix> Dreamglider: hello again
[02:14] <arctic> does somebody know where to get "C++ preprocessor" & "libasound headers version >= 1.0.9" for compiling?
[02:14] <airtonix> Dreamglider: did you use the "cghoo"
[02:14] <airtonix> Dreamglider: did you use the "choose a mirror of ubuntu"?
[02:14] <[LethAL] > ubotu, forget something
[02:14] <ubotu> i forgot something, [LethAL] 
[02:14] <bob2> arctic: what are yo ucompiling?
[02:15] <Shin_Gouki> locomorto, corect its text , but u might say i have deleted my"default-menu" so i dont know which "word-text" to use for a folder, which is quite basic... ^^
[02:15] <arctic> bob2, a realtek-linux-audiopack for alsa
[02:15] <bob2> haha
[02:15] <bob2> arctic: build-essential, then apt-cache search libasound | grep dev
[02:16] <N6REJ> I think I need to reboot, seems ff is stuck LOL
[02:16] <bob2> N6REJ: no
[02:16] <Mon> Shin_Gouki: the basic menu thingy can be added through the "add to panel" option (right click on panel)
[02:16] <N6REJ> no?
[02:16] <locomorto> Shin: just could reinstall I suppose.
[02:16] <locomorto> Mon: this is icewm
[02:16] <bob2> N6REJ: why would you reboot because Firefox is hung?
[02:16] <barosl> what quality number of ogg file is equal to maximum quality of wma?
[02:16] <Shin_Gouki> locomorto, could u paste bin urs , text plzz..?
[02:16] <N6REJ> because I don't see what process is hung in FF
[02:16] <bob2> N6REJ: and?
[02:17] <N6REJ> this ain't a *nix box, its windoze
[02:17] <baskak> aftertaf: thanks so much. maybe there's a person on the channel or forum you can direct me to?
[02:17] <bob2> ouch
[02:17] <N6REJ> lol :P
[02:17] <MaTaKs> How to check free space on my disk
[02:17] <N6REJ> df -h
[02:17] <Shin_Gouki> locomorto, ARIGATO, danke schn :) merci beaucoup!
[02:18] <kbrooks> 6 days
[02:18] <Mon> anyone knows why a nfs mount won't mount through livecd but does when i boot from HD?
[02:18] <locomorto> Shin: never fear
[02:18] <locomorto> Shin: sudo aptitude install iceme
[02:18] <locomorto> its a graphical editor
[02:18] <Shin_Gouki> locomorto, nooo i fear , plz paste bin urs  plzzz
[02:19] <MaTaKs> How to check free space on my disk?
[02:19] <arctic> bob2, thx build-essentials were absent
[02:19] <dv______> damn
[02:19] <Dragonized> lol
[02:19] <dv______> I keep getting a "file not found" error with samba
[02:19] <[LethAL] > MaTaKs, df -h
[02:19] <dv______> when trying to write in a guest-enabled share
[02:19] <locomorto> MaTaKs: look in the system resource viewer
[02:19] <MaTaKs> ok thnx
[02:19] <N6REJ> said that LOL
[02:19] <dv______> I set permissions to 0775, writable =yes
[02:19] <dv______> anyone has an idea?
[02:19] <Grant_> MaTaKs: df -h from a console will tell you
[02:19] <locomorto> MaTaKs: applications -> System tools -> system monitor
[02:20] <thoreauputic> dv______: do you think you could add a few more underscores to your nick? It's really short :D
[02:20] <[LethAL] > LOL
[02:20] <kbrooks> thoreauputic: ROFL
[02:20] <dv______> what?
[02:20] <dv______> oh
[02:20] <dv______> :)
[02:20] <locomorto> Shin: wheres the menu fule again :D
[02:20] <N6REJ> RWX set each letter to 1 for a yes, and then r=4 + w=2 & X =1
[02:20] <airtonix> anyone got a laptop that had windoze and then installed linux via netboot
[02:20] <dv______> it changed the nick automatically, sec...
[02:20] <dv-_> :)
[02:20] <airtonix> coz i got so far as choosing a mirror
[02:21] <dv-_> so anyone has an idea?
[02:21] <airtonix> and none of them will owrk
[02:21] <Shin_Gouki> locomorto, in /home/*USR*/.icewm/menu
[02:21] <thoreauputic> dv-_: I was just kidding :)
[02:21] <N6REJ> dv-_: does that answer your q?
[02:21] <dv-_> because this is really urgent, and I cant find a solution
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> how do you set a maximum level of CPU and Ram/swap  a process can use? iirc its a config file in /etc/ somewhere
[02:21] <airtonix> none of the mirrors provided with the ubuntu install will work
[02:21] <dv-_> N6REJ, I dont understand the answer :)
[02:22] <dv-_> where to change what?
[02:22] <N6REJ> ok, let me try again...... R=Read, W=write, X = execute.
[02:22] <N6REJ> ok so far?
[02:22] <florian> is it save to resize the ubuntu partition?
[02:22] <dv-_> I know the permissions
[02:22] <N6REJ> ok
[02:22] <dv-_> but i dunno where to edit what
[02:22] <dv-_> smb.conf?
[02:22] <N6REJ> oh LOL
[02:22] <N6REJ> for what?
[02:22] <dv-_> for getting this to work!
[02:22] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[02:22] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:22] <locomorto> Shin: bah I have to log into icewm for the folder to be created
[02:22] <locomorto> Shin: try deleting the menu file
[02:23] <dv-_> everytime I want to write and/or create a file in the share, it writes "file not found"
[02:23] <N6REJ> dv-_: I thought you wanted to know what 775 meant?
[02:23] <dv-_> I *set* it to 775 already
[02:23] <airtonix> i'll just sit here and wait patiently
[02:23] <dv-_> according to the smb.conf comments
[02:23] <N6REJ> do you have ownership?
[02:23] <dv-_> there, it was explained that to enable writing set permissions to 775
[02:23] <aftertaf> do you pwn?
[02:24] <dv-_> ownership over what?
[02:24] <N6REJ> the file you trying to create and the folders ABOVE it.
[02:24] <irvin> anyone installed realplayer already?
[02:24] <dv-_> well, it is a guest-enabled share
[02:24] <_jason> dv-_:  775 doesn't let you write as "other" the 5 means you get execute and read, maybe that's why?
[02:24] <N6REJ> yep
[02:24] <aftertaf> lol bob2
[02:24] <dv-_> but if it is a permission problem, why "file not found"?
[02:24] <bob2> ?
[02:24] <airtonix> irvin: you really want it?
[02:24] <N6REJ> not world writeable
[02:24] <N6REJ> is the file really there?
[02:24] <dv-_> shouldnt it output "permission denied"?
[02:24] <kbrooks> _jason: 757
[02:25] <kbrooks> erm
[02:25] <_jason> kbrooks:  ?
[02:25] <aftertaf> sorry, scrolled too far up... FF hanging :)
[02:25] <airtonix> irvin: coz I fink that gmplayer will do what you want
[02:25] <arctic> bob2, now he requires "curses library" which do i need?
[02:25] <Mon> irvin: tried it once. didn't like it. why
[02:25] <bob2> arctic: libncurses5-dev
[02:25] <bob2> this is probably a waste of time, tho
[02:25] <kbrooks> dv-_: do you own the file?
[02:25] <_jason> dv-_:  why don't you test it with a 777 for 2 seconds, just to see if that's the problem
[02:25] <kbrooks> or directory
[02:25] <kbrooks> or whatever
[02:25] <N6REJ> dv-_: try touch thisismyfile in the directory
[02:25] <dv-_> well. I create it, so I own it?
[02:25] <dv-_> N6REJ, I tried already.
[02:25] <irvin> just asking if it's worth installing
[02:25] <dv-_> file not foun
[02:25] <dv-_> d
[02:26] <HrdwrBob> sweet
[02:26] <HrdwrBob> er.. wrong channel
[02:26] <dv-_> trying with 777
[02:26] <N6REJ> huh? touch says that ?
[02:26] <dv-_> just a sec
[02:26] <airtonix> irvin: aaaah, now all is explained. wanders off muttering
[02:26] <dv-_> 777 is useless
[02:26] <N6REJ> *scratchs head* .... Touch should CREATE the file if it doesn't exist
[02:26] <Mon> irvin: naah :) unless you really need to play some rm file or something
[02:26] <N6REJ> ls -la
[02:26] <irvin> thanks
[02:27] <dv-_> touch: cannot touch "bla": File or directory not found
[02:27] <N6REJ> sounds like upper level permission problems.
[02:27] <N6REJ> are you chrooted?
[02:27] <dv-_> yes
[02:28] <N6REJ> hehehe, are you trying to write to an area OUTSIDE of the jail?
[02:28] <dv-_> what jail?
[02:28] <N6REJ> lol.. ok, where exactly are you trying to write to?
[02:28] <maku> hi all, i'm running breezy on kernel 2.6.12-9-686. I'm starting kernel module development. But my /usr/src/ does not contains linux directory, or for that sake, any directory. Which package do i need to have a valid /usr/src/linux
[02:28] <dv-_> HMMMM.
[02:28] <dv-_> restarting nmbd solved it.
[02:28] <dv-_> now this is really weird.
[02:28] <kbrooks> dv-_: chroot jail
[02:29] <gfxstyler> hi
[02:29] <[LethAL] > maku, linux-something-soruce i'd imagine :D
[02:29] <[LethAL] > source*
[02:29] <Shin_Gouki> locomorto, i really need that default template... u got i dea who can help me/us?
[02:29] <N6REJ> whats nmbd?
[02:29] <maku> [LethAL] , linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686 (2.6.12-9.22)
[02:29] <kbrooks> !info nmbd
[02:29] <dv-_> the netbios name resolution server
[02:29] <gfxstyler> anyone here who knows something about ati drivers (no, i already got it to work :D )
[02:29] <[LethAL] > maku, no, not that
[02:29] <ubuntu_> wat????
[02:29] <dv-_> anyway, works.
[02:29] <N6REJ> hmmmmmmmmmmm.....
[02:29] <[LethAL] > maku, that's part of the source, you want all of it ;)
[02:29] <Shin_Gouki> hi who uses icewm here?
[02:29] <dv-_> weird, but works.
[02:30] <airtonix> whoa, ok now the "choose mirror to download" is telling me that every single one of the mirrors have not got a valid release file or the mirror is not available.
[02:30] <N6REJ> *wonders why you would want to run netbios over linux*
[02:30] <dv-_> so someone bring on the champagner :)
[02:30] <dv-_> N6REJ, because windows computers access this one
[02:30] <Shin_Gouki> N6REJ  --> samba?
[02:30] <Shin_Gouki> samba?
[02:30] <maku> [LethAL] , then? is it there on packages.ubuntu.com inthe breezy section?
[02:30] <dv-_> anyway, gotta go.
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell bettong_bofh about hoary_extras
[02:30] <ubuntu_> yo funny N6REJ
[02:30] <Grant_> Shin_Gouki: i have icewm, what you need ?
[02:30] <kbrooks> !hoary extras
[02:30] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, kbrooks
[02:30] <N6REJ> and you gotta use nb to do that?  Can't you straight tcp/ip?
[02:30] <kbrooks> !hoary_extras
[02:30] <ubotu> kbrooks: Are you on ritalin?
[02:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell bettong_bofh about hoary-extras
[02:31] <kbrooks> N6REJ: Not really
[02:31] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[02:31] <kbrooks> N6REJ: windows uses netbios
[02:31] <airtonix> N6REJ: yeah i woz finking the same fing
[02:31] <[LethAL] > maku, /msg ubotu wiki KernelCompileHowto
[02:31] <N6REJ> UGH... I hope they've improved Netbios security in the last 10 years
[02:31] <Shin_Gouki> Grant_, thx for reply i need the TEXT content of ur "menu" file as example, i deleted mine unintentionaly
[02:31] <locomorto> Shin: hmm
[02:31] <airtonix> kbroooks: you sont need it
[02:31] <Grant_> Shin_Gouki: sure let me just fetch it
[02:31] <N6REJ> I don't use NB on ANY of my windoze networks, and never have.
[02:31] <locomorto> Shin: I started iceme and it foudna menu file
[02:31] <Shin_Gouki> :)
[02:31] <locomorto> I'll trysearching for it
[02:32] <Shin_Gouki> kk
[02:32] <kbrooks> N6REJ: what do you do then
[02:32] <da_bon_bon> i used to ue debian .. but i am thinking of shifting to ubuntu -- question -- 1. anything i must be aware of ? 2. can i drectly go from etch to breezy ?
[02:32] <maku> [LethAL] , thanks
[02:32] <da_bon_bon> *use
[02:32] <airtonix> N6REJ: maybe he talks to 1in95 machinies (shudder)
[02:32] <airtonix> win95 that is
[02:32] <[LethAL] > !tell da_bon_bon about rootsudo
[02:32] <Chambers-> hey guys, anyone here use the latest wine?
[02:32] <N6REJ> just tell the machine I wanna share the device via a windows tcp/ip client connection and viola.... netbios is bye bye..
[02:32] <bob2> da_bon_bon: reinstall, probably not worth it if you're happy with debian
[02:32] <N6REJ> you have to TURN NB on now days to get it on.
[02:33] <[LethAL] > da_bon_bon, also, be careful with non-ubuntu debian packages
[02:33] <da_bon_bon> bob2: i am not .. the packages are outdated :(
[02:33] <N6REJ> airtonix: thats a REAL possibility
[02:33] <airtonix> yeah baby! netbios is long dead and only good for talking to 60year old converyor belt computers
[02:33] <da_bon_bon> bob2: i dont think i will absolutely remove debian, however
[02:33] <bob2> da_bon_bon: in sid? wtf?
[02:33] <da_bon_bon> bob2: i am afaraid of using sid :)
[02:33] <N6REJ> infact, I wonder if I can see my printer from the network yet.. let me look LOL.. never tried that yet.
[02:34] <airtonix> lol, aaaah sheit.
[02:34] <Shin_Gouki> da_bon_bon, sid the sound format?
[02:34] <da_bon_bon> Shin_Gouki: debian unstable
[02:34] <kbrooks> Shin_Gouki: sid the unstable debian tree
[02:34] <Chambers-> wondering if the latest wine allows microsoft MMC to be run.  For AD administration puposes
[02:35] <da_bon_bon> mmc ?
[02:35] <da_bon_bon> whats that ?
[02:35] <locomorto> Shin: I put it up there
[02:35] <Chambers-> microsoft management console
[02:35] <da_bon_bon> bob2: you use both, sid and ubuntu ?
[02:35] <Shin_Gouki> locomorto, where to?
[02:35] <airtonix> ok maybe i better rephrase the question: anyone used tftpd32.exe?
[02:35] <locomorto> on the pastbin
[02:35] <bob2> da_bon_bon: yes
[02:36] <da_bon_bon> ok, bob2
[02:36] <airtonix> da_bon_bon: use vnc thru ssh
[02:36] <Shin_Gouki> locomorto, got it
[02:36] <kbrooks> bob2: do you mix them?
[02:36] <bob2> kbrooks: no
[02:36] <bob2> kbrooks: well, that's not true, but I'm careful when I do
[02:36] <Grant_> Shin_Gouki: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2853 thats mine
[02:36] <kbrooks> bob2: what do you mean
[02:36] <da_bon_bon> airtonix: what ?!
[02:37] <baskak> afteratf: thanks for care, best
[02:37] <bob2> kbrooks: when I use sid package on ubuntu or vice-versa, I'm careful to make sure it won't break anything
[02:37] <Shin_Gouki> Grant_, cool i thank u!
[02:37] <kbrooks> bob2: oh... i see
[02:37] <maku> [LethAL] , can you have a look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/source/linux-source-2.6.12 & suggest what to download?
[02:37] <airtonix> da_bob_bon
[02:37] <Whistler> hello
[02:37] <Whistler> i have some serious problems
[02:37] <kbrooks> ask
[02:37] <gfxstyler> does anyone know why i only have a resolution of 1024x768 when i use the ati fglrx drivers? i already edited the xorg.conf file and there is only 1280x800 resolution, so i dont know why it does not work :/
[02:37] <airtonix> you use virtual network comuting
[02:38] <maku> [LethAL] , is it this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12.orig.tar.gz
[02:38] <da_bon_bon> airtonix: why should i use vnc ?
[02:38] <airtonix> da_bob_bon: vnc is the remote dekstop of linux
[02:38] <kbrooks> maku: no.
[02:38] <Whistler> how can i view my boot log?
[02:38] <maku> kbrooks, then
[02:38] <Shin_Gouki> locomorto, Grant_, thx now i can customize my stuff :)
[02:38] <kbrooks> Whistler: dmesg | less
[02:39] <kbrooks> erm
[02:39] <kbrooks> dmesg | tail
[02:39] <airtonix> da_bob_bon: combine it with ssh and you have (i think) a secure remote desktop like connection.
[02:39] <airtonix> I used to do this a long time ago
[02:39] <Whistler> /var/lib/dpkg/status i have no such file
[02:39] <airtonix> i will again if i can get ubuntu installed on me toshiba laptop
[02:39] <da_bon_bon> airtonix: but WHY would i want to use vnc ?
[02:39] <Whistler> can i restore it some way?
[02:40] <kbrooks> maku: apt-get source linux-source-$(uname -r}
[02:40] <kbrooks> er
[02:40] <kbrooks> maku: apt-get source linux-source-$(uname -r)
[02:40] <commodore> hi
[02:40] <bob2> maku: why are yo utrying to compile your own kernel?
[02:40] <airtonix> da_bob_bon: have you used remote dekstop on windows xp?
[02:40] <da_bon_bon> apt-get source linux-source-`uname -r` too :)
[02:40] <kbrooks> but that won't work ;)
[02:40] <Whistler> any way of making /var/lib/dpkg/status ?
[02:40] <bob2> haha
[02:41] <Whistler> cause i had to delete it
[02:41] <bob2> Whistler: that's the file that stores what packages dpkg thinks you have installed
[02:41] <Whistler> smt is wrong with my hdd
[02:41] <bob2> hahahahaha
[02:41] <maku> kbrooks, thanks
[02:41] <commodore> i don't like gnomes way of browsing files, i heard there's a way to make file browser the default thingie to browse files, how to do that?
[02:41] <da_bon_bon> airtonix: dont know about tab completion ? i've never used vnc, and never felt the need to.
[02:41] <maku> bob2, i'm learning kernel module programming
[02:41] <Whistler> bob2 so no way of creating a new one?
[02:41] <HrdwrBob> commodore: wait until breezy comes out
[02:41] <bob2> Whistler: not simply
[02:41] <maku> bob2, hence i need the headers
[02:41] <HrdwrBob> commodore: it's totally different
[02:41] <airtonix> da_bob_bon: not happy with it.
[02:41] <bob2> maku: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[02:41] <airtonix> da_bob_bon: know how you feel
[02:41] <Whistler> ah i thought so
[02:41] <bob2> maku: all done, kthx
[02:41] <Whistler> =[
[02:42] <bob2> Whistler: don't ever delete files like that again
[02:42] <bob2> Whistler: also, look at /var/lib/dpkg/status-old and /var/backup
[02:42] <Whistler> bob2 there were no other way
[02:42] <kbrooks> bob2: why shouldnt he
[02:42] <commodore> when i make the window fullscreen in the default browser and then go somewhere, it makes it back smaller
[02:42] <andy_satriani> alow guys, is there any books to learn linux kernel programming
[02:42] <bob2> kbrooks: er, because it's a critical dpkg file which cannot be replaced?
[02:42] <commodore> why is that so?
[02:42] <maku> bob2, wait a sec, do i need just the headers or the linux-source? i'm a bit confused
[02:43] <airtonix> da_bob_bon: coz, unfortunatly and i dont like it, the windows remote desktop is much faster than vnc
[02:43] <kbrooks> bob2: how critical is it?
[02:43] <da_bon_bon> airtonix: bleh! type a few letters of a persons nick, and press TAB key
[02:43] <bob2> kbrooks: do you want dpkg to ever work again?
[02:43] <N6REJ> I never knew how to do that till 2nite
[02:43] <bob2> kbrooks: that critical
[02:43] <Whistler> bob2 how do i view my boot error messages?
[02:43] <bob2> maku: headers are all you need to compile modules
[02:43] <airtonix> da_bon_bon, cheers. sorry bout that
[02:43] <bob2> Whistler: depends where they came from
[02:43] <kbrooks> bob2: ah
[02:43] <bob2> Whistler: you can enale bootlog
[02:43] <Whistler> bob2 / check was forced
[02:44] <airtonix> Im used to using jabber
[02:44] <da_bon_bon> airtonix: :) now explain why i might need vnc ?
[02:44] <maku> bob2, & the source? wont i be needing that?
[02:44] <airtonix> cozs you want to use the mmc right?
[02:44] <airtonix> da_bon_bon, woops did  it again
[02:44] <bob2> maku: no
[02:44] <bob2> andy_satriani: http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
[02:44] <Whistler> bob2 btw thx i restored status from status-old
[02:44] <bob2> andy_satriani: assuming you're already a very competent C programmer
[02:44] <da_bon_bon> airtonix: eek.. i dont want to use mmc
[02:45] <airtonix> Ohmer, ithought you did
[02:45] <maku> bob2, & what is kernel-tree used for?
[02:45] <Whistler> error message says that i have bad block or duplicate sector in use and it shows me two files
[02:45] <Whistler> any ways of fixing that?
[02:45] <[LethAL] > How do I fix apt after a crash? It says the resource is locked...
[02:45] <maku> bob2, linux-headers is a very small package, 777kb. is that ok?
[02:45] <bob2> maku: for something else related to building modules that can be distributed in ubuntu
[02:45] <da_bon_bon> maku: the complete kernel source tree
[02:45] <airtonix> da_bon_bon, ohhhh, i've been talking to the wrong person
[02:45] <bob2> maku: yes
[02:45] <andy_satriani> bob2: i have just learn c in the last 2 years
[02:45] <aftertaf> [LethAL] :  check ps -A see if any are running.
[02:46] <bob2> [LethAL] : shut down every single other package management tool and remove the lock file manually
[02:46] <andy_satriani> bob2: thx for the tips
[02:46] <airtonix> da_bon_bon, sorry dude for confusing ya
[02:46] <bob2> andy_satriani: on unix?
[02:46] <maku> bob2, da_bon_bon okies :)
[02:46] <da_bon_bon> airtonix: :)
[02:46] <andy_satriani> bob2: no, on windows :(
[02:46] <[LethAL] > aftertaf, bob2 I said after a crash... Synaptic was running and then I had to force-reboot
[02:47] <dee_> hello whats the command on the terminal to configure my resolution? its something like xorg.conf???
[02:47] <airtonix> Chambers: you here still?
[02:47] <bob2> andy_satriani: good luck then
[02:47] <LokeDK> Where's my Run Command shortcut thing in the gnome menu (breezy) ? i use it a lot.. or used
[02:47] <Whistler> error message says that i have bad block or duplicate sector in use and it shows me two files with duplicate blocks
[02:47] <da_bon_bon> are there any changes ever made, between ubuntu rc and final ?
[02:47] <[LethAL] > LokeDK, Alt-F2
[02:47] <bob2> [LethAL] : that's awesome, now read what I suggested
[02:47] <LokeDK> ah thx
[02:47] <[LethAL] > bob2, just delete it?
[02:47] <andy_satriani> bob2: thx, is there a basic tutorial to program c on unix
[02:47] <kbrooks> andy_satriani: write a c file
[02:47] <bob2> andy_satriani: don't know of any online ones off-hand, sorry
[02:48] <kbrooks> run gcc file.c
[02:48] <kbrooks> ./a.out
[02:48] <[LethAL] > w00t, thanks bob2 :D
[02:48] <dee_> does anyone knows the command in the terminal to configure the resolution of the screen? its xorg.conf something
[02:48] <N6REJ> be back in a while, breezy is about done dl'n and I don't want to try burning it while this is running.
[02:48] <bob2> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:48] <dee_> anyone?
[02:48] <andy_satriani> bob2: ok thx, i will try it :)
[02:48] <bob2> but that's not really what you want
[02:48] <gfxstyler> 
[02:49] <gfxstyler> dee_: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:49] <airtonix> cya later
[02:49] <Bateau_> where does php get installed?
[02:49] <dee_> bob2: thank you very mich
[02:49] <bob2> Bateau_: dpkg -L whateverpackagename
[02:49] <[LethAL] > da_bon_bon, good luck :P
[02:50] <da_bon_bon> [LethAL] : hehe .. i wont actually upgrade
[02:50] <da_bon_bon> just try
[02:50] <[LethAL] > Hehe
[02:50] <dee_> nano? is that for breezy?
[02:50] <gfxstyler> no it should work with hoary too
[02:50] <Whistler> dee_ nano is txt editor
[02:50] <dee_> oh ok thanks gfxstyler
[02:50] <gfxstyler> or use vim or gedit or anything else
[02:50] <da_bon_bon> wha!
[02:50] <dee_> thanks for the info Whistler , sorry im a newbie sir
[02:51] <da_bon_bon> i enabled jsut the main repo
[02:51] <da_bon_bon> and it said no updates
[02:51] <da_bon_bon> what?!
[02:51] <florian> is it save to resize the ubuntu partition?
[02:51] <Bateau_> bob2: and what package is php?
[02:51] <da_bon_bon> i did not enable multi and uni , but how its no updates ?!
[02:51] <[LethAL] > da_bon_bon, save :P
[02:51] <Whistler> dee_ try using gedit
[02:51] <gfxstyler> then scroll down and then you will see the display resolution
[02:51] <Telonir> i need to set up my adsl in ubuntu and the network-admin's buttons are all grey and it says failed to run network-admin as root
[02:52] <[LethAL] > Telonir, did you do expert install?
[02:52] <aftertaf> florian:  if you know how to, yes, i think so. need to boot in maintenance and mount / readonly
[02:52] <da_bon_bon> Telonir: did it ask for your user password ?
[02:52] <Telonir> how to set up the connection manually? (what to write in provider file)
[02:52] <Telonir> no std install
[02:52] <aftertaf> Telonir:  pppoe?
[02:52] <Telonir> yes
[02:52] <aftertaf> either run pppoeconf..... or download and complie rp-pppoe
[02:53] <aftertaf> you'll need the pppoe package installed too.
[02:53] <Telonir> "download"
[02:53] <aftertaf> rp-pppoe will set your dls-provider file up correctly
[02:53] <florian> aftertaf, thanx, I think I will look for a howto for that
[02:53] <Telonir> pppd is there
[02:53] <aftertaf> pppd is for dialup
[02:53] <Telonir> oh
[02:54] <Telonir> so its rp-pppoe and pppoeconf?
[02:54] <aftertaf> Telonir:  install pppoe package with your cd.
[02:54] <Telonir> k
[02:54] <Telonir> i think it copied everithing to the hd
[02:54] <lindt_f_25> hi all
[02:54] <aftertaf> Telonir:  this youll need to do anyway....., i recommend rp-pppoe cos pppoeconf borked my dsl file
[02:54] <aftertaf> !pppoe
[02:54] <ubotu> hmm... pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[02:54] <gorilla> hi, has anyone got lxdoom to run on hoary? the ubuntuforums has the same problem but no solution.
[02:54] <dee_> after configuring xorg, do you have to restart or refresh?
[02:55] <lindt_f_25> i need help. i'm a first time linux user. i have windows xp, if i install ubuntu, will it automatically dual-boot?
[02:55] <Telonir> so i should run rp-pppoe
[02:55] <Telonir> ?
[02:55] <kbrooks> dee_: ctrl+backspace should restart gnome
[02:55] <aftertaf> Telonir:  my suggestion..... yes. but you need to d/l the tar file and compie it
[02:55] <kbrooks> but you'l have to login
[02:55] <da_bon_bon> are there any changes ever made, between ubuntu rc and final ?
[02:55] <lindt_f_25> anyone?
[02:55] <aftertaf> Telonir:  read this link
[02:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: efectivly, yes
[02:55] <aftertaf> !pppoe
[02:55] <ubotu> well, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[02:55] <Telonir> k
[02:55] <Shin_Gouki> topyli, so download of OO is finished... lets see now how good this works on /with ubuntu
[02:56] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon: might be
[02:56] <locomorto> bai bai everyone
[02:56] <kbrooks> depends
[02:56] <dee_> kbrooks...does not do anything
[02:56] <da_bon_bon> kbrooks: something like ? say, upgrade of a package ?
[02:56] <lindt_f_25> @Kamping_Kaiser, thanks! will it ask me how much diskspace to give ubuntu?
[02:56] <da_bon_bon> lindt_f_25: about 7gb
[02:56] <dee_> refresh is killall right?
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: you can set that during partitioning. i have never done it using teh partitioner, but youu can.
[02:56] <da_bon_bon> but 4gb is fine also
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> it needs 1.6 *minimum* pluss swap
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> recomend 5+
[02:57] <da_bon_bon> dee_: define "refresh"
[02:57] <lindt_f_25> i see. do i need to partition first to install ubuntu, or ubuntu will auto-partition its default size for me?
[02:57] <dee_> refresh the updates after installing or configuring the system
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: it will resize windows partition to any size you tell it.
[02:58] <da_bon_bon> lindt_f_25: i think you can use the option "use the largest continous free space"
[02:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> im not sure about automagicaly resizing
[02:58] <lindt_f_25> i see. does it ask the size when i install ubuntu?
[02:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'ask the size'?
[02:58] <da_bon_bon> yes, lindt_f_25
[02:58] <Bateau_> how can i check what deps a package has?
[02:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> Bateau_: apt-cache show $packager
[02:59] <aftertaf> Bateau_:  by doing apt-et install and seeing what it says.
[02:59] <aftertaf> ^^ better ;)
[02:59] <lindt_f_25> i mean, does it say: "how much gigs of harddisk space to give ubuntu?"
[02:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:59] <aftertaf> pfff :p
[02:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: yes, i believe so
[02:59] <lindt_f_25> ok, thanks da_bon_bon
[02:59] <lindt_f_25> i see. alright thanks kamping_kaiser
[02:59] <lindt_f_25> btw, is wine (winehq.org) good? or should i buy crossover?
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> :0 thats ok
[03:00] <tucoz> Hi, I thought I ask here if you had reports on when not to update to breezy
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> wine is good, just depends what you want to do
[03:00] <da_bon_bon> lindt_f_25: wine is good enough
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> tucoz: before the 13th
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[03:00] <lindt_f_25> if for games. could i run half life 2 through wine?
[03:00] <tucoz> or of it is rather safe to do it
[03:00] <da_bon_bon> lindt_f_25: for games, use cedega
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: you would want cedega for that
[03:00] <Bateau_> im looking for the program php (as in the exe, or what ever) can anyone tell me where it is?
[03:00] <[LethAL] > !tell lindt_f_25 about cedega
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol da_bon_bon, snap
[03:01] <lindt_f_25> what's cedega?
[03:01] <Alex_BO> HELLO!is there in ubuntu hoary a pascal compiler?
[03:01] <Hoxzer> I guess it is no problem to install ubuntu to S-ata HDD?
[03:01] <[LethAL] > lindt_f_25, read what ubotu sent you
[03:01] <tucoz> Kamping_Kaiser: I suppose there are a couple of people running breezy already
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> tucoz: yeh, me
[03:01] <da_bon_bon> Kamping_Kaiser: snap ?
[03:01] <kbrooks> tucoz: i am too
[03:01] <gfxstyler> does anyone know why i only have a resolution of 1024x768 when i use the ati fglrx drivers? i already edited the xorg.conf file and there is only 1280x800 resolution, so i dont know why it does not work :/
[03:01] <Grant_> tucoz: and me :)
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> da_bon_bon: we said the same thing at the same time., snap, like the card game :)
[03:01] <lindt_f_25> alright i'll check out the link. thanks!
[03:01] <da_bon_bon> lol, Kamping_Kaiser
[03:02] <tucoz> Ok, sounds great. Did you update or did you make a clean install?
[03:02] <Fackamato> Heh.
[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: what do you play?
[03:02] <da_bon_bon> Fackamato: refugee from #debian :P
[03:02] <tucoz> s/clean/fresh
[03:02] <lindt_f_25> cedega is commercial product. i can buy it or download its source code and compile it for free?
[03:02] <Grant_> tucoz: mine was a clean install
[03:02] <lindt_f_25> did i get that right?
[03:02] <da_bon_bon> lindt_f_25: not cedega
[03:02] <lindt_f_25> so if i know how to compile it, it's free for me to use cedega?
[03:02] <Alex_BO> halo?anyone?
[03:02] <kbrooks> tucoz: i updated from hoary (which was updated from warty)
[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: i think you have to purchase
[03:02] <kbrooks> Kamping_Kaiser: winecvs
[03:03] <MaTaKs> whats the next page shortcut keys on xchat
[03:03] <lindt_f_25> but according to the 'acquiring cedega' section, it says: You can use a CVS version of cedega (this is free), instructions on how to install this are at  http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> kbrooks: ?
[03:03] <tucoz> kbrooks: ah, cool. Wonder what I should do.
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, ok. cool. *clicks*
[03:03] <da_bon_bon> lindt_f_25: thats not worth the effort. better .. ahem .. "buy" cedega membership, and get the debian package
[03:03] <maku> MaTaKs, <ctrl>+<pgDown>
[03:03] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon: um
[03:03] <tucoz> Laptop support is enhanced in breezy, right?
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol dbb
[03:03] <lindt_f_25> so no free way to play half life 2 in ubuntu?
[03:03] <MaTaKs> thnx
[03:04] <maku> :)
[03:04] <kbrooks> not advised to mix debian and ubuntu
[03:04] <Fackamato> da_bon_bon well yeah, some people in there seemed to have a lot of problems, so I think this channel is nicer, at least seems so. No one's telling you to fuck off (yet).
[03:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: wine might
[03:04] <azeem> Fackamato: fuck off
[03:04] <tucoz> hehe
[03:04] <kbrooks> due to... *thinks of a word*
[03:04] <[LethAL] > Fackamato, fuck off
[03:04] <[LethAL] > :D
[03:04] <kbrooks> azeem: stop joking around ;)
[03:04] <azeem> Fackamato: ;)
[03:04] <lindt_f_25> anyone got half life 2 working w/wine?
[03:04] <da_bon_bon> kbrooks: umm ?
[03:05] <lindt_f_25> or windows version of doom 3 working w/wine?
[03:05] <lindt_f_25> splinter cell?
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: get the linux patch
[03:05] <seethru> lindt_f_25: theres a linux native client for doom3
[03:05] <da_bon_bon> lindt_f_25: wait a sec .. i have little something for you.
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:05] <seethru> lindt_f_25: as for half-life 2, I've played it in cedega
[03:05] <da_bon_bon> lindt_f_25: http://www.linux-militia.net/howtos/doom3/doom3.html
[03:05] <lindt_f_25> yep, i know ther'es a linux client. just wanna ask if it's possible. how about splinter cell and half life 2?
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hl2 in cedga, not yet in wine (soon i hear), not sure about splinter cell
[03:06] <seethru> lindt_f_25: why bother emulating a windows environment to play a game that has a linux client?
[03:06] <da_bon_bon> Fackamato: u use breezy ? clean install ?
[03:06] <Fackamato> da_bon_bon ya.
[03:06] <da_bon_bon> should i download the breezy iso now, or wait for final ?
[03:06] <avalost> i want to play delta force black hawk down
[03:06] <avalost> that game is more addictive than crack
[03:06] <lindt_f_25> seethru - that's only true w/doom3, how about half life 2? also, i bought doom 3 already (windows version)
[03:06] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon: you decide!
[03:07] <da_bon_bon> kbrooks: thats why i asked whether there are any changes between rc and final .. :)
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: the windows version only needs a patch from id, its no extra expence
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: there will never be HL2 native
[03:07] <da_bon_bon> valve software sucks
[03:07] <seethru> lindt_f_25: you can only buy doom3 windows version, you just pull files off those cds to use with the doom3 client. As for Half-Life 2, it works in cedega.
[03:07] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon: there will be
[03:07] <lindt_f_25> i see. how about splinter cell and half life 2? anyone heard if it would work w/ubuntu (through a no-cost solution like wine)?
[03:07] <StylusEater_Work> anybody had any success with ndiswrapper and a broadcom chip?
[03:07] <da_bon_bon> kbrooks: what kin of changes ? BIG or minor bug fixes ?
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> da_bon_bon: no, valve is cool, but thier choise of API sucks :(
[03:08] <gfxstyler> StylusEater_Work: yes me
[03:08] <da_bon_bon> Kamping_Kaiser: better way to put it :)
[03:08] <lindt_f_25> i see. half life 2 doesn't work w/wine
[03:08] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon: i'm not spoonfeeding you info ;)
[03:08] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon: read the mailing list
[03:08] <StylusEater_Work> awesome gfxstyler...I might "call on" you later
[03:08] <da_bon_bon> kbrooks: ok :)
[03:08] <gfxstyler> np
[03:08] <da_bon_bon> most probably not, lindt_f_25
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> not yet it doesnt
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> they are working on it
[03:09] <lindt_f_25> so besides id games, most other later games can't be played through ubuntu w/out buying cedega? :(
[03:09] <Ng> most games can't be played through ubuntu at all. some play with cedega.
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: unreal tournament can, americas army
[03:09] <da_bon_bon> lindt_f_25: as i said, its not really necessary to buy.
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> are 2 i know do work
[03:09] <da_bon_bon> ;)
[03:09] <da_bon_bon> *on
[03:09] <lindt_f_25> does warcraft 3 work w/wine?
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> no (iirc)
[03:10] <abur> any one knows how to encode from WMA to FLAC without loosing metadata ?
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> !wine
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell lindt_f_25 about wine
[03:10] <lindt_f_25> warcraft 3 doesn't work with wine either? that's sad
[03:10] <da_bon_bon> lindt_f_25: dont be so hopeful. at some point, you most probably will need pirated software
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> check out the list of supported apps there lindt_f_25
[03:11] <surface> i guys
[03:11] <[LethAL] > lindt_f_25, you don't have to buy it
[03:11] <surface> i am using opera browser
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: no, its just teh easiest way to game
[03:11] <surface> i was amazed that i type irc://irc.freenode.net
[03:11] <surface> the entire browser become irc chat client
[03:11] <lindt_f_25> hmm...cedega
[03:11] <da_bon_bon> theres a opera package in ubuntu ?
[03:11] <surface> and it was fast
[03:12] <surface> i think it support linux
[03:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> da_bon_bon: you can get it from their site
[03:12] <kbrooks> !ops
[03:12] <ubotu> hmm... ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[03:12] <surface> , not yet try on ubuntu yet
[03:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> lindt_f_25: google ;P
[03:12] <lindt_f_25> kamping_kaiser - it's that easy to find cedega? whoa...
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:13] <gfxstyler> i fucking HATE the ati drivers!
[03:13] <kbrooks> !ops some people are discussing pirating
[03:13] <ubotu> okay, kbrooks
[03:13] <holycow> lindt_f_25, on the other hand, you may wish to consider buying it
[03:13] <da_bon_bon> kbrooks: what bloody hell!
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> holycow: we started there ;)
[03:14] <da_bon_bon> lindt_f_25: ahem.. i think my younger bro was fooling with irc
[03:14] <holycow> heh
[03:14] <da_bon_bon> i had gone to pee :P
[03:14] <kbrooks> lindt_f_25: it's not a good idea to discuss pirating
[03:14] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon: well, you're responsible for your internet connection
[03:14] <lindt_f_25> oops. sorry. i was actually looking for a free way to play some windows games
[03:15] <da_bon_bon> kbrooks: ok. no need to get formal :P
[03:15] <gfxstyler> cedega is fre
[03:15] <da_bon_bon> kbrooks: as if you dont use warez
[03:15] <gfxstyler> *free
[03:15] <da_bon_bon> gfxstyler: what bloosy hell ?
[03:15] <gfxstyler> its true
[03:15] <da_bon_bon> s/s/d
[03:15] <kbrooks> gfxstyler: of course it's free
[03:15] <gfxstyler> if you compile it yourself
[03:15] <lindt_f_25> anyone know of a guide to compile cedega?
[03:15] <gfxstyler> do a google search on "cedega cvs"
[03:16] <HiddenFly> does anyone here have any idea do these printers work on linux and are they any good, HP Photosmart 8050, Lexmark z615/p910?
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> HiddenFly: try linuxprinting.org
[03:16] <HiddenFly> Kamping_Kaiser: i tried but any of those werent listed there
[03:16] <Shin_Gouki> hi i downloaded: OOo_SRC680_m130_en-US_native_LinuxIntel_install_deb.tar.gz how to install now?
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> at all? then its probably not
[03:16] <kbrooks> gfxstyler: yes thats true
[03:17] <kbrooks> however
[03:17] <Hobbsee> Shin_Gouki: extract it
[03:17] <Shin_Gouki> kk
[03:17] <surface> did u guys heard about mono?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> in kde there's a gui tool for it, not sure about gnome
[03:17] <HiddenFly> nope, tho for HP there were 8000 and 8100 models, so im looking at them
[03:17] <kbrooks> gfxstyler: they were talking about the binary cedega. thats all
[03:17] <HiddenFly> dont think theres that much difference
[03:17] <axl> Are there gonna be a fix for eclipse-platform soon? My apt is broken due to this...
[03:17] <gfxstyler> kbrooks: oh, didnt knew that, sorry
[03:18] <kbrooks> gfxstyler: scroll up
[03:18] <Hobbsee> Shin_Gouki: after that, go to gnome-terminal, cd DEBS
[03:19] <Shin_Gouki> Hobbsee , k im with
[03:20] <Hobbsee> Shin_Gouki: then type "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[03:20] <Hobbsee> without the quotes
[03:20] <Shin_Gouki> Hobbsee ,if i want language pack ,install it now or later?
[03:20] <mbpillai> how to change charecter set in console mode and locale
[03:21] <Hobbsee> install it now
[03:21] <Hobbsee> ie extract it, cd to the folder it gets put in, then again "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[03:22] <Shin_Gouki> ok
[03:23] <sherman> well, the breezy upgrade from hoary works...
[03:23] <patrik_> hello?
[03:23] <sherman> aside from the new kernel complaining about IRQ15
[03:23] <sherman> and shitting itself
[03:24] <sherman> im currently running on hoary's vanilla kernel
[03:24] <Hobbsee> hi patrik_: if you have a questoin, state it
[03:24] <sherman> I love the new wallpaper
[03:25] <sherman> :P no question
[03:25] <BockBilbo> can anyone tell me a good program to watch tv appart from mythtc?
[03:25] <BockBilbo> *mythtv?
[03:25] <N6REJ> back
[03:26] <Hobbsee> sherman: yeah, i liked the look of it in screenshots too
[03:26] <N6REJ> I like the new boot screen for breezy :D
[03:26] <sherman> same
[03:26] <sherman> ubuntu has come a long way
[03:26] <sherman> well done all
[03:26] <Grant_> BockBilbo: tvtime or xawtv
[03:26] <Hobbsee> definetly, and kubuntu
[03:26] <sherman> yer
[03:26] <crube> I want to get Ubuntu installed already.
[03:26] <sherman> thats running on my p4 next to me
[03:27] <crube> But I'm waiting for my new hardrive.
[03:27] <Hobbsee> crube: you a linux newbie?
[03:28] <crube> Hobbsee no. Why?
[03:28] <Hobbsee> ah ok, cos if you were, i would suggest installing anyway, so you could play around with it, seeing as most newbies will screw up their linux boxes
[03:28] <Hobbsee> at least once
[03:29] <Hobbsee> which would be an optimal time to switch to the new HD
[03:29] <crube> Hobbsee I have Ubuntu on my other computer. It's some old crap I use just for playing around and usually breaking things.
[03:29] <Hobbsee> ah nice :P
[03:29] <N6REJ> hobbsee, certianely nobody would do something as HORRIBLE as rm -f /etc/*.*
[03:30] <surface> guys
[03:30] <N6REJ> thinkinkg your somewhere else
[03:30] <Hobbsee> LOL
[03:30] <Hobbsee> you've tried?
[03:30] <surface> did u heard about microsoft linux?
[03:30] <MaTaKs> how to know if your using ubuntu 5.4 or 5.10
[03:30] <Hobbsee> you'd have to be sudo to do that
[03:30] <N6REJ> succeeded even
[03:30] <Hobbsee> MaTaKs: do you have a splash screen while booting up?
[03:30] <N6REJ> thats the problem with being in god mode... you can't protect yourself from YOU LOL
[03:30] <sherman> MaTaKs, you should already know
[03:30] <Hobbsee> lol...
[03:31] <Hobbsee> yeah, good reason to never log in as root
[03:31] <N6REJ> yep
[03:31] <MaTaKs> i upgrade to 5.10 and i am 5.4 before i want to check if its successful
[03:31] <crube> I just realized I havent updated my other computer for like.... 2 months...
[03:31] <egoleo> hello
[03:31] <Hobbsee> what version of gnome are you running?
[03:31] <egoleo> ok
[03:31] <Hobbsee> that will tell you
[03:31] <N6REJ> It was a customers machine about 10 years ago and I was using RH 6.2 and had been at it for over 80 hours, and forgot I was in /etc when I said to delete the whole dang folder
[03:31] <egoleo> i really like breezy
[03:31] <Hobbsee> hehe oops you say!
[03:31] <egoleo> it seems so fast for me
[03:32] <surface> how to upgrade?
[03:32] <egoleo> to what
[03:32] <nochecita> server libres.irc-hispano.org
[03:32] <surface> from 5.04 to 5.10
[03:32] <egoleo> surface
[03:32] <nochecita> uy
[03:32] <egoleo> ok
[03:32] <egoleo> go to ue
[03:32] <egoleo> r
[03:32] <egoleo> source.list
[03:32] <Hobbsee> surface: see topic
[03:32] <egoleo> sudo /etc/apt/source.list
[03:32] <sherman> uh ohh
[03:33] <Hobbsee> !upgrade2breezy
[03:33] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:33] <sherman> egoleo, dont put the source.list here...
[03:33] <egoleo> and change all occurance of hoary
[03:33] <sherman> thats better
[03:33] <sherman> :D
[03:33] <egoleo> to breezy
[03:33] <N6REJ> lol that won't work.
[03:33] <fish> how do i do a GUI kill (click the program to kill it)? I forgot how.
[03:33] <surface> oh thx
[03:33] <sherman> N6REJ, dont say that!
[03:33] <Hobbsee> fish:
[03:33] <surface> i will chec out the wiki now
[03:33] <egoleo> and then comment the first line which reads the cdrom
[03:33] <Hobbsee> alt+f2 type xkill and click on offending window
[03:33] <fish> Hobbsee: yes
[03:33] <Hobbsee> ZAP!
[03:34] <egoleo> after that u do
[03:34] <N6REJ> sherman: I meant if he did that at console... I have no clue what it would do here.
[03:34] <egoleo> sudo apt-get update
[03:34] <egoleo> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:34] <egoleo> hoola
[03:34] <egoleo> u are in breezy
[03:34] <MaTaKs> whats a GUI?
[03:34] <fish> Hobbsee: the program won't die.
[03:34] <egoleo> so fast
[03:34] <Hobbsee> which program?
[03:34] <fish> Hobbsee: totemplayer
[03:34] <Hobbsee> graphical user interface
[03:35] <MaTaKs> ah ok
[03:35] <Hobbsee> so xkill and clicking on it doesnt work
[03:35] <crube> Hobbsee you know, my girlfriend's using the other computer when she's here, and she's all pissed when I've broken something (as usual) Currently for example firefox can't log in anywhere :D Crashes everytime she tries :D
[03:35] <egoleo> X-window
[03:35] <fish> it doesn't work, Hobbsee
[03:35] <Hobbsee> killall totem
[03:35] <surface> ok thanks egoleo
[03:35] <Hobbsee> hehehehe @ crube
[03:35] <surface> i try now
[03:35] <egoleo> kill -KILL totem
[03:35] <egoleo> u welcome surface
[03:35] <fish> Hobbsee: killall totem worked.
[03:35] <Hobbsee> fish: :D
[03:35] <egoleo> nautilius now a browser
[03:35] <MaTaKs> how can i kill program that hangs.. like in windows ctrl+alt+del and endtask then choose running program to kill
[03:35] <fish> egoleo: 	kill -KILL totem? does that command work?
[03:35] <Hobbsee> both are pretty effective
[03:36] <egoleo> so great now
[03:36] <Hobbsee> MaTaKs: alt+f2, type xkill
[03:36] <fish> Hobbsee: how come that second command you gave worked, while the first didn't?
[03:36] <egoleo> totem replaced with pid
[03:36] <Hobbsee> MaTaKs: click on offending window
[03:36] <egoleo> rather
[03:36] <egoleo> sorry
[03:36] <MaTaKs> ok thnx man
[03:36] <egoleo> and that should work
[03:36] <fish> egoleo: what's pid?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> um...dont know...
[03:36] <egoleo> ok
[03:36] <egoleo> do ps -ax
[03:37] <egoleo> type ps -ax
[03:37] <egoleo> and check
[03:37] <Hobbsee> either one works, that's for sure!
[03:37] <egoleo> at the terminal
[03:37] <Shin_Gouki> Hobbsee ,i installed now language & "usual " packge... is OO now usable?
[03:37] <egoleo> type ps -ax
[03:37] <Hobbsee> should be, try it
[03:38] <Hobbsee> did you happen to get desktop shortcuts?
[03:38] <fish> egoleo:  i did. but what does Pid mean?
[03:38] <Shin_Gouki> Hobbsee ,i use icewm
[03:38] <zoot_> anyone from the xfce package team here?
[03:38] <crube> Linux users are so much more brutal. In windows you just kindly shut thing down, but if something hangs on linux it's killed. :D Sounds like German in the WW2
[03:38] <egoleo> and then look at the PID which corresponse with totem
[03:38] <nalioth> fish: process identifier
[03:38] <egoleo> process identity
[03:38] <Grant_> fish: its the id for a running program, you can kill programs using the PID instead of using the name
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> crube: or we slay it :)
[03:38] <fish> egoleo: what do you mean by "totem replaced with pid"?
[03:38] <Hobbsee> crube: yeah, but linux actually shuts them down, rather than saying end now, doing nothing, and freezing the entire system
[03:38] <surface> haha crube, good imagination
[03:38] <Hobbsee> i keep trying to use xkill in windows...
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> there also (iirc) was a masacre command
[03:38] <zoot_> crimsun: you here?
[03:38] <egoleo> PID ==> Process ID
[03:38] <Hobbsee> it never seems to work...
[03:38] <Hobbsee> :(
[03:39] <egoleo> ok
[03:39] <egoleo> when u do ps -ax
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol Hobbsee
[03:39] <Grant_> fish: say totem was running on pid 14322 instead of putting totem you would put 14322 which is it's pid
[03:39] <Shin_Gouki> Hobbsee ,i use icewm... no shortcuts... how do i start..?
[03:39] <egoleo> look for totem
[03:39] <crube> Hobbsee yeah, and Windows programs hang so often, that if windows users would start killing programs they'd all be in jail!
[03:39] <Hobbsee> Shin_Gouki: you'll have to use the shell scripts for it
[03:39] <Hobbsee> LOL yeah..they do!
[03:39] <egoleo> and check it pid on the left of ur screen
[03:39] <zoot_> any xfce users here, desparately need help re kiosk mode (ubuntu breezy)
[03:39] <N6REJ> ok, way I see it there is still a  bug in breezy..... in server mode install it never asks for the domain name :(
[03:39] <Hobbsee> i cant stand it!
[03:39] <egoleo> u would see it
[03:39] <Shin_Gouki> Hobbsee ,from usr/bin?
[03:39] <Hobbsee> ah yeah, that should be where it is
[03:39] <fish> egoleo: i still don't know why you offered "kill -KILL totem"?
[03:40] <egoleo> i said its wrong to bring totem
[03:40] <Tv> Hello. Is there a nice way to create an ubuntu chroot under debian, like debootstrap?
[03:40] <egoleo> it should be kill -KILL PID
[03:40] <fish> guys, is there a website for gimp like http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/videotips/#?
[03:40] <Khantozavri> hi folks... simple question....
[03:40] <egoleo> so u replace the PID with the correct one
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyway, ill be back in the chan later perhaps (but im still around). doing some bug searching in the breezy doco
[03:40] <Shin_Gouki> Hobbsee ,hm... plz guide me to a place were i may find the OO executables..?
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> Shin_Gouki: try /usr/bin/
[03:41] <fish> that website has videos of how to do specific things with Photoshop elements
[03:41] <Khantozavri> does it make any sense to use smp kernel with hyperthreading?
[03:41] <Shin_Gouki> Kamping_Kaiser, im in in but there is no: calc, or write, or do i have to look for oo-calc?
[03:41] <nalioth> Khantozavri: yes it does
[03:41] <Hobbsee> if you open a word doc, then write will open
[03:41] <Hobbsee> hang on a sec...this might help
[03:42] <steve_don> Khantozavri: I do and it recognises it as 2 processors whether there is any speed increase i dont know
[03:42] <rata> hi
[03:42] <Hobbsee> try ooffice2 -writer
[03:42] <Khantozavri> how do i know if it does recognise my hyperthreading?
[03:42] <Shin_Gouki> -bash: ooffice2: command not found
[03:42] <rata> there is a dpkg-reconfigure <something> to reconfigure gdm ?
[03:43] <TiMiDo> rata do gdmconf
[03:43] <TiMiDo> as root
[03:43] <rata> Khantozavri, cat /proc/cpui
[03:43] <steve_don> Khantozavri: it will show up in the gnome system monitor
[03:43] <rata> Khantozavri, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:43] <rata> TiMiDo, thanks
[03:43] <Hobbsee> darn
[03:43] <Khantozavri> thanks a lot, buddies... :)
[03:43] <Shin_Gouki> Kamping_Kaiser, Hobbsee i found 2 files in use/bin:
[03:44] <Hobbsee> they'd probably help
[03:44] <rata> TiMiDo, it does not exist that command
[03:44] <Shin_Gouki> Kamping_Kaiser, openofficeadmin, openoffice.org1.9
[03:44] <rata> TiMiDo, and gdmsetup tries to open an X display
[03:45] <Khantozavri> that's greay, but what about speed wise? I sort of think that smp kernel isn't really working for me, I get some hangouts, and need to restart and stuff... :(
[03:45] <Shin_Gouki> Hobsee, King_Kaiser : those areopenoffice.org-1.9
[03:45] <Shin_Gouki> openoffice.org-1.9-printeradmin
[03:46] <Hobbsee> try openoffice.org-1.9
[03:46] <Hobbsee> but what type of file are they?
[03:46] <Shin_Gouki> haha
[03:46] <Shin_Gouki> could not find java
[03:46] <Hobbsee> do you have java installed?
[03:46] <Shin_Gouki> no
[03:46] <Hobbsee> well that might explain why you cant find it then
[03:46] <Hobbsee> can it just ignore the lack of java?
[03:46] <steve_don> Khantozavri: Ive been using the smp kernel for a while now havent been any problems with it
[03:47] <Shin_Gouki> yep it does it :)
[03:47] <Hobbsee> oh good!
[03:47] <telonir> how can i get gnome switch desktop when i drag a window 'over the edge' of the current desktop?
[03:48] <egoleo> is anyone using irda with ubuntu
[03:48] <N6REJ> wahooooo!!!!!!!! installed first try
[03:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Shin_Gouki about javadeb
[03:48] <N6REJ> now to try to get the desktop on it just in case I want it.
[03:48] <N6REJ> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop right?
[03:49] <Shin_Gouki> Hobbsee, im on the isntaller now :) HOORAY :D
[03:49] <Hobbsee> yay!
[03:49] <egoleo> infra red with ubuntu
[03:49] <KlinkMeister> I am having a problem playing java enabled games anyone have any ideas?
[03:49] <Hobbsee> do you have java installed?
[03:49] <KlinkMeister> yes
[03:49] <egoleo> do u have jre
[03:49] <egoleo> or jdk
[03:50] <KlinkMeister> i downloaded and installed the packages
[03:50] <ubuntulover> you can get it from the synaptic
[03:50] <egoleo> so check which one
[03:50] <Hobbsee> night all...
[03:50] <egoleo> is it the jre
[03:50] <KlinkMeister> ok ty
[03:50] <egoleo> or the jdk
[03:50] <Khantozavri> thanks folks.... enjoy ubuntu :)
[03:50] <surface> haih, my line slow
[03:51] <surface> i ll be update tomorro i go to my uni
[03:51] <egoleo> surface
[03:51] <egoleo> how far
[03:52] <maxmouse> anyone know where i can get themes for the greeter?
[03:53] <enodev> maxmouse: art.gnome.org
[03:53] <apocxp> http://art.gnome.org/
[03:53] <maxmouse> thanks :)
[03:54] <PieD> Hi
[03:54] <telonir> whats the autostart dir in gnome?
[03:54] <PieD> I've got a problem with my laptop on breezy
[03:54] <PieD> that's an Acer aspire 1692 wlmi
[03:54] <PieD> and the battery isn't working
[03:54] <akutbi> Need help with ubunto
[03:55] <egoleo> ok
[03:55] <egoleo> what help
[03:55] <PieD> a website (http://www.aalbiol.upv.es/ACER.html) shows me that it can be solved by a new DSDT
[03:55] <egoleo> whether i can hel
[03:55] <PieD> so I downloaded and compiled one from acpi.sf.net
[03:55] <PieD> (the one for my laptop)
[03:55] <maku> PieD, means? the battery ststus is not working or the battery has dried out?
[03:55] <akutbi> Does ubunto come with development pkg?
[03:55] <cantrel29> hello I am running breezy and trying to get subverion up and running. I have followed the instructions on the wiki and when I go to localhost/faq I get: D:error>
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[03:55] <cantrel29> <m:human-readable errcode="13">
[03:55] <cantrel29> Could not open the requested SVN filesystem
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[03:55] <PieD> I can't get informations about the battery
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[03:55] <PieD> I don't know whether it's full or empty and so on
[03:56] <egoleo> yes
[03:56] <egoleo> like which one
[03:56] <PieD> I installed the new DSDT following the instructions of the Wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ACPIBattery)
[03:56] <cantrel29> You should note that I adjusted the paths in the tutorial to point to /home/svn/faq/
[03:56] <PieD> and yet, when I reboot the computer, it's stopping on "loading ACPI modules"
[03:56] <rawiramdhan> I try to tar a  .tar.bz2 file, with tar xwfz but it asks for everey image to extract
[03:56] <rawiramdhan> extract `Orange-Rounded2/metacity-1/menu4.png'?
[03:56] <PieD> I edited the script to show its progression
[03:56] <maku> PieD, i have toshiba laptop, just booting with default config shows battery status :)
[03:56] <PieD> and I see it's freezy on loading ac module
[03:57] <akutbi> I am trying to install nVidia GForce FX 5500 and it is asking me about "ld"
[03:57] <PieD> maku: and ?
[03:57] <PieD> what is the ac module useful for ?
[03:57] <Shin_Gouki> Hobbsee, OO is workin now i thanku sooo much!! :D
[03:57] <rawiramdhan> I try to tar a  .tar.bz2 file, with tar xwfz but it asks for every image to extract
[03:57] <rawiramdhan> extract `Orange-Rounded2/metacity-1/menu4.png'?
[03:58] <akutbi> what is "ld" and from whare can I install it?
[03:58] <maku> PieD, my toshiba aslo hangs with live cd while loading modules (at 98%), but things work fine in install cd
[03:58] <Ng> rawiramdhan: take the w out then
[03:58] <Hoxzer> Is it just the same do I install ubuntu to S-ata HDD or IDE?
[03:58] <Ng> rawiramdhan: tar's -w option means "ask for confirmation for every action"
[03:58] <Ng> rawiramdhan: see "man tar" :)
[03:59] <rawiramdhan> N
[03:59] <rawiramdhan> thanx
[03:59] <rawiramdhan> worked:)
[03:59] <rawiramdhan> I read the man tar:S but couldn;t find the problem
[03:59] <ubuntulover> why "make" wine so slowly?
[03:59] <rainer> hi, is there a way to boot breezy with DMA for the drive it's booting from enabled? that might help bug 16901, I found a lot of knoppix users having similar symptoms and enabling (yes, enabling, not disabling :) solved it
[04:00] <nalioth> brb
[04:01] <akutbi> help
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> pls ask akutbi
[04:01] <akutbi> I am trying to install nVidia graphics driver but it is asking me for "ld"
[04:02] <ubuntulover> I'v make for half an hour
[04:02] <akutbi> what is "ld" and from where I can get it
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> ld
[04:03] <dipnlik> hi all
[04:03] <dipnlik> To install java, instructions on the wiki tell to install java-package, but the package doesn't exist
[04:03] <akutbi> as I read from the net it is an object linker
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> akutbi: ld is a linker
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> yes
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> sudo apt-get install ld will do
[04:04] <maku> man ld says "ld  combines  a  number of object and archive files, relocates their data and ties up symbol
[04:04] <maku>        references. Usually the last step in compiling a program is to run ld."
[04:04] <dipnlik> where can i find the java-package package?
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> perhaps you might as well get build-essential
[04:04] <N6REJ> since it didn't ask for the domain name when I installed, how can I tell it now so that postfix and everything knows.  Just adding it to /etc/hosts doesn't do it does it?
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> dipnlik: its in synaptic search for java
[04:04] <steve_don> dipnlik: the package is in the multiverse repos
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> N6REJ: /etc/hostname
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> my hostname is defined there
[04:05] <kbrooks> hmm
[04:05] <akutbi> it sayed: "E: Couldn't find package ld"
[04:06] <N6REJ> wickedpuppy: tnx, its been a while.  I wasn't sure if that was the only place.  Seems to me I had to put it several places in the old days.
[04:06] <golma> ?
[04:06] <golma> 
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> np :P
[04:06] <telonir> should i update from within X?
[04:06] <golma> hihi
[04:06] <telonir> or exit and use apt get?
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> golma hi
[04:06] <dazzed> new kernel release eh
[04:06] <N6REJ> well, bedtime.... y'all have a great one.. b back t/m
[04:06] <golma> hi :)
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> nite N6REJ
[04:07] <steve_don> telonir:you can update from within x no problems
[04:07] <Syruss> In /etc/sudoers, I have %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL to allow members of the group wheel to be able to sudo. How can I make it prompt for their password when they try to sudo?
[04:07] <dipnlik> multivers
[04:07] <dipnlik> multiverse
[04:08] <akutbi> From where i can find ld
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> Syruss: sudo is supposed to ask for password when they sudo
[04:08] <akutbi> I did give it the password
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> akutbi: sudo apt-get install ld
[04:08] <steve_don> akutbi: what happens when you do enter 'which ld' at the command line
[04:09] <akutbi> Reading package lists... Done
[04:09] <akutbi> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:09] <akutbi> E: Couldn't find package ld
[04:09] <rawiramdhan> where is the default gtk-theme-switch map?
[04:09] <Syruss> wickedpuppy, it's not though, this is breezy badger
[04:09] <nalioth> akutbi: please dont paste in here
[04:09] <dazzed> breezy is so much better than warty
[04:10] <dazzed> hoary*
[04:10] <dazzed> warty was the best(
[04:10] <Syruss> I just don't know the syntax for sudoers
[04:10] <Syruss> I've been using gentoo for about 2/3 months
[04:10] <Syruss> it's better in a few ways
[04:10] <Syruss> but worse in others
[04:10] <dazzed> i want to get onto gentoo or slacks
[04:10] <Syruss> hmm
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> Syruss: if you had done sudo properly ... ubuntu comes with a default sudo on users so there is no excuse ... nothing will do wrong
[04:11] <Syruss> well gentoo is definitely better if you're playing around with the kernel etc..much simpler in that respect
[04:11] <dazzed> Syruss: i use fluxbox talk about simple
[04:11] <Syruss> wickedpuppy, from that response I take it you don't know the answer to my question ;)
[04:11] <Syruss> fluxbox is horrible :p
[04:11] <dazzed> i love it :)
[04:12] <Syruss> I tried out E17
[04:12] <rainer> is there a boot option like "linux dma" to get breezy install cd booting with DMA enabled for the CD drive?
[04:12] <Syruss> that's pretty cool
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> Syruss: perhaps .. to me sudo is sudo ... just add the group and thats all there to it
[04:12] <dazzed> i used blackbox for windows when i was on windows and thats what introduced me to linux so its how i associate it
[04:12] <dazzed> i love it
[04:12] <Syruss> heh
[04:12] <Syruss> I love gnome
[04:12] <dazzed> gnome is nice
[04:12] <Syruss> It's one of the main reasons I'm using breezy badger instead of gentoo
[04:13] <Syruss> gentoo is nowhere near ready for gnome 2.12
[04:13] <dazzed> cant use gnome on gentoo?
[04:13] <Syruss> yes
[04:13] <dazzed> gotcha
[04:13] <Syruss> it's just it's at 2.10 unless you wasn't to break your gentoo
[04:13] <dazzed> lol
[04:13] <dazzed> i hope this new kernel update helps with my lockups
[04:14] <dazzed> damn in hoary they were so bad...unexistent in warty now in breezy much better
[04:14] <rodj> which engine makes the progress bar moves (like in osx) on ubuntu (with ubuntu's default theme)?
[04:14] <jwd> whats the command to configure X using Ubuntu
[04:14] <Syruss> dazzed, you shouldn't get kernel lockups
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> jwd : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:15] <telonir> upgrade X from within X?
[04:15] <jwd> gracia
[04:15] <jwd>  s
[04:15] <jwd> :-)
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> there will be error if you do it in X of course
[04:15] <telonir> but that what the update progie does
[04:16] <Mateo_> Plop all
[04:16] <telonir> scary
[04:16] <telonir> are you sure its ok to use the update progie from within X?
[04:17] <steve_don> telonir: yep how else would you use synaptic to update/upgrade :)
[04:17] <telonir> apt - get ?
[04:18] <steve_don> telonir: same with apt-get can do it from x without any problems
[04:18] <zkmaster> Hi all, I need help connecting my wireless pc card to my network
[04:18] <telonir> still scary.
[04:18] <telonir> writing over files that might be in use
[04:19] <ubuntulover> hello,I'm chinese.I love ubuntu
[04:19] <zkmaster> My card is on the supported cards list
[04:19] <Gwildor> telonir, they arent really "in use" like they were in wondows.............
[04:19] <steve_don> telonir: I am sure that apt-get deals with that I do it all the time and I have never had a problem
[04:19] <jwd> yeah I ma new to Ubuntu so whats the difference between apt-get and dpkg
[04:19] <telonir> is there an advantage to using the i686 kernel over 386?
[04:20] <BockBilbo> anyone here has tried the mythtv package from ubuntu? does it work?
[04:20] <Gwildor> jwd, apt-get grabs the .deb's from the repo, and then used Dpkg to install them
[04:20] <BockBilbo> *ubuntu breezy
[04:20] <steve_don> telonir: if the app thats upgraded is running you will have to restart it to get the new version
[04:20] <dipnlik> jwd: apt-get is automagic
[04:20] <jwd> where will apt-get put them?
[04:20] <jwd> :-)
[04:20] <Gwildor> jwd, a temp dit i believe
[04:20] <Gwildor> dir
[04:20] <dipnlik> jwd: downloads in a temp, installs and removes
[04:20] <zkmaster> anyone here have expereince setting up a wireless nic with ubuntu?
[04:21] <jwd> . /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:21] <telonir> will deborphan work in ubuntu? or is there a substitute?
[04:22] <jwd> so dpkg -i *.deb
[04:22] <jwd> or whatever .deb file
[04:22] <jwd> I meant
[04:22] <nalioth> telonir: deborphan and debfoster are both available
[04:22] <telonir> which is better?
[04:22] <ubuntulover> which edition can I install ,my GPU is Gforce 2 pro
[04:22] <Gwildor> jwd, yes <sudo dpkg -i foo.deb>
[04:22] <dipnlik> jwd: the temp is something like /var/cache/apt/something...
[04:22] <telonir> sudo sh :)
[04:23] <Syruss> fixed, I was in the sudo group for some reason
[04:23] <Syruss> :p
[04:23] <telonir> got used to su
[04:23] <jwd> yeah I found it
[04:23] <eeaaxx> anybody knows how to manually download apt-get upgrades?
[04:23] <Gwildor> eeaaxx, apt-get upgrade
[04:23] <nrbq> howdy
[04:23] <eeaaxx> Gwildor: yes, i've done that. but im on a dial-up connection
[04:24] <Gwildor> eeaaxx, you lost me..........
[04:24] <telonir> its only 200mb
[04:24] <jwd> thnx Gwildor
[04:24] <nrbq> is there a keyboard sequence to access the footprint menu (or the others for that matter)?
[04:24] <jwd> ya know its nice going to a channel where everyone isn't so snotty
[04:24] <telonir> you can set a shortkey
[04:24] <jwd> :-)
[04:24] <eeaaxx> Gwildor: ok. i wanna download updates without using apt-get
[04:24] <Gwildor> jwd, dont even bother to enter #debian then........
[04:25] <kbrooks> SNOTTY?
[04:25] <kbrooks> snotty?
[04:25] <kbrooks> define!
[04:25] <nrbq> jwd, yeah, no doubt
[04:25] <Proko> does anyone already succeed in compiling puredata on ubuntu ?
[04:25] <zoot_> any xfce users here? need help with kiosk mode - thx
[04:25] <jwd> yeah you guys are great
[04:25] <nrbq> zoot_, sorry, can't help there
[04:25] <jwd> I wasn't being sarcastic if thats what you think
[04:26] <nrbq> jwd, I know what you mean
[04:26] <Gwildor> eeaaxx, yes, still, im unsure why, if i were you, i would disable all fo the repos, except 1, then update that one.....then diable it, and update another one.................can easily remove them via synaptic, or edit your sources.list
[04:26] <kbrooks> define snotty?
[04:26] <zoot_> nrbq: thx
[04:26] <Gwildor> kbrooks, #debian
[04:26] <nrbq> when I first started with IRC about 6 or so years ago it seemed populated by too many people with big brains and little winkies
[04:26] <occy> nrbq, heh
[04:26] <nrbq> ;)
[04:27] <Ng> nrbq: and you're happy now that it's full to the brim with idiots? ;)
[04:27] <nrbq> hehe, uh.....I didn't exactly mean that
[04:27] <nrbq> ;)
[04:27] <nrbq> just nicer people here is all
[04:27] <Ng> hehe
[04:27] <Proko> I know that it is possible to install puredata with the apt-get tool on a debian, but not with ubuntu, anyone can help me ?
[04:27] <eeaaxx> Gwildor: ok. because my connection is only 56k. thanks
[04:27] <nrbq> I've yet to have anyone take my head off for asking something they *think* I ought to already know
[04:28] <telonir> so should i get the i686 kernel?
[04:28] <rayde> does anybody here use afio??
[04:28] <nrbq> Proko, what's puredata?
[04:28] <telonir> 686 will use sse/sse2 ?
[04:28] <Gwildor> Proko, you could add the debian repo that it is available in, im not sure if that is supported by ubuntu or not, or you could also stop by packages.debian.org, and manual DL it from there, install via dpkg
[04:28] <nalioth> nickrud: wakey wakey
[04:28] <nrbq> oh, back to my question
[04:28] <nrbq> :)
[04:29] <nrbq> is there a keyboard sequence to bring up the footprint menu (as well as the others)?
[04:29] <Proko> sure, via dpkg, it might work
[04:29] <Proko> i will try
[04:29] <nalioth> Gwildor: debian binaries are not good to recommend. better to advise debian source repos and have apt-get build the package from source
[04:29] <zkmaster> I'm having trouble setting up my wireless NIC - My card is supported, and Its active under the networking settings. I have entered the WEP key, but it doesn't seem to be getting an IP address. Any ideas?
[04:29] <squid0> nrbq: have a look at System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcurs
[04:30] <squid0> *Shortcuts
[04:30] <nrbq> squid0, thanks
[04:30] <nrbq> on my way
[04:30] <squid0> nrbq: no prob. let me know
[04:30] <Proko> nalioth , someone told me not to use debian repos in my sources.list, so ....
[04:30] <Gwildor> nalioth, ok, i will ry to remember that.........as i have stated before, i havent used ubuntu since jsut after the first release....when they were a little more firendly with debian
[04:30] <Colloid> is there better wireless support with 5.10?
[04:30] <Gwildor> nalioth, still not advised or supported..........but worked......
[04:30] <Colloid> my card (ra2500-compatable) doesn't work all too good
[04:30] <nickrud> nalioth, hello
[04:30] <nalioth> Proko: Gwildor the current ubuntu is not very binary compatible with debian
[04:31] <Gwildor> nalioth, so i have read.........forkers :P
[04:31] <nalioth> Gwildor: Proko: however, using debian source repos and having apt-get build your pkgs is ok
[04:31] <Proko> which means nalioth ?
[04:31] <nalioth> nickrud: howdy
[04:31] <Gwildor> nalioth, JJ
[04:32] <Proko> nope nalioth , i tried, and I get an error message aimed at public key signature .
[04:32] <httpdss> Colloid: what brand do you use ???
[04:32] <nalioth> Proko: that won't keep you from using the repos for software, just gives you msgs
[04:32] <LokeDK> tmpfs                 253M   13M  240M   5% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/volatile
[04:32] <LokeDK>  < what's this? never seen it.. must be something new
[04:32] <Whistler> is it possible to unmount swap partition?
[04:33] <LazyAngel> Whistler: have you tried umount?
[04:33] <Proko> so, I do not to care about that kind of message. Am I right nalioth ?
[04:33] <nickrud> Whistler, swapon and swapoff; never done it myself
[04:33] <Gwildor> Whistler, HEY, GL man.........i would recommend offering details on what you are trying to do, other thean gettign help on jsut a specific step, as there may be a "better" approach
[04:34] <nrbq> squid0, thanks - I'll need to think how I want to work this. Excellent starting point. :)
[04:34] <Whistler> k
[04:34] <nalioth> Proko: the software will still install
[04:34] <squid0> nrbq: i'm glad :)
[04:34] <Proko> ok
[04:34] <nalioth> Proko: but you may b0rk your system
[04:34] <Whistler> i want to resize my partition
[04:34] <squid0> nrbq: just set mine to use the Start key.
[04:34] <LazyAngel> what raid type is the fastest? (for swap partition)
[04:35] <Gwildor> Whistler, are you trying to make roo for a DSL install?
[04:35] <Gwildor> room
[04:35] <Whistler> yep
[04:35] <Whistler> :)
[04:35] <Violence^> guys is it meant to stay on "starting PC card services" 98% for ages ?
[04:35] <Gwildor> .   /msg me
[04:35] <nrbq> squid0, start key? I don't have one on this laptop (do I?)
[04:35] <LazyAngel> Violence^: if you have a very slow machine :P
[04:36] <Violence^> its 2ghz
[04:36] <Violence^> 1024ram
[04:36] <squid0> nrbq: ok, whatever. I'm using a Windows keyboard. use what you want
[04:36] <djbrieck> How do i know if my harware has aprpopriate drivers, eg graphics card
[04:36] <squid0> nrbq: ie. the Windows logo key. most keyboards have it. ??
[04:36] <nrbq> squid0, sorry, I meant is the Windows key the start key? I still get confused
[04:37] <nrbq> Oh, ok - whew! Felt like I was having another of my moron moments (they are too frequent to count)
[04:37] <squid0> nrbq: yes, you're right. i was unclear.
[04:37] <djbrieck> i notice when I move mindows cpu goes to 100% , so that must mean no graphics card driver
[04:37] <nrbq> Thanks - Just mapped the sam
[04:37] <nrbq> same
[04:37] <nrbq> how cool is that?
[04:37] <httpdss> djbrieck: checking on logs, maybe .. or dmesg ...
[04:37] <nrbq> :)
[04:37] <squid0> nrbq: great.
[04:37] <squid0> :_
[04:37] <squid0> nrbq: oops. that should have been :)
[04:38] <Proko> ok thanks all ones
[04:38] <dazzed> so hows everyone doing today
[04:38] <Proko> bye
[04:38] <nrbq> see, this is what I was meaning - just nice folks
[04:38] <nrbq> in the old RedHat channel I would have had my head handed to me by now!
[04:38] <nrbq> Hahaha!!!!
[04:38] <squid0> nrbq: LLL : live & let live
[04:38] <djbrieck> is the device manger of any use
[04:38] <squid0> ;)
[04:38] <Proko> thanks nalioth , it worked via a deb file, using dpkg
[04:39] <Proko> see u soon
[04:39] <dazzed> nrbq: it gets to be like that sometimes :)
[04:39] <crimsun> zoot_: yes?
[04:40] <dazzed> anyone know the path to evolution in breezy cus its not the same
[04:40] <httpdss> dazzed: /usr/bin/evolution
[04:40] <httpdss> ??
[04:41] <steve_don> dazzed: you mean to the binary try which evolution
[04:41] <antrix> How do I know whether the Ubuntu kernel has a certain patch or not? I am specifically looking for a trackpoint patch
[04:41] <cantrel29> hello I am running breezy and trying to get subverion up and running. I have followed the instructions on the wiki and when I go to localhost/faq I get: D:error>
[04:41] <er4z0r> how can I install the prior version of a certain package with apt?
[04:41] <dazzed> steve_don: i get nothing returned
[04:41] <nrbq> dazzed, well, I'm still very new to Ubuntu (about day 4 for me) and I've been super impressed by everything
[04:41] <cantrel29> Could not open the requested SVN filesystem
[04:41] <dazzed> like its not installed
[04:41] <Sn00Ze> Anybody would know how to get the status of a service (ie. POP, FTP, HTTP) [not only running or not]  like if there is any problems?
[04:41] <dazzed> but i know it is
[04:41] <nrbq> The people, the OS, the ease of use, the level of help, apt-get
[04:41] <nrbq> you name it!
[04:42] <nrbq> I'm trying to sell my wife on it - :)
[04:42] <Whistler> nrbq i really liked the community
[04:42] <kbrooks> heh, nrbq
[04:42] <kbrooks> ;)
[04:42] <nrbq> we'll see where that gets me
[04:42] <squid0> nrbq: i'm loving it too!
[04:42] <er4z0r> please help :(
[04:42] <nrbq> hey, kbrooks
[04:42] <kbrooks> nrbq: _to_ it ;)
[04:42] <nrbq> Whistler, yeah, absolutely
[04:42] <httpdss> dazzed: "whereis evolution"
[04:42] <kbrooks> not _on_ it ;)
[04:42] <nrbq> kbrooks, haha
[04:42] <nrbq> you really can't beat this OS
[04:42] <Whistler> nrbq nobody calls you lame here, and everybody is so helpfull
[04:43] <Whistler> cool
[04:43] <Whistler> :)
[04:43] <nrbq> Ok, if you need to do heavy music processing or something like that, I can see why Linux isn't quite there yet
[04:43] <dazzed> nevermind it wasnt installed
[04:43] <squid0> nrbq: i don't know so much
[04:43] <kbrooks> Why?
[04:43] <steve_don> dazzed: lol :)
[04:43] <dazzed> lol i feel retarted now
[04:43] <cantrel29> er4z0r:have you tried apt-get install [package-verson] 
[04:43] <nrbq> Whistler, yeah, I've noticed that. With the other channels I used to use there was just one long rant and slander all the time
[04:43] <dazzed> it was on hoary but since i updated must have gotten mixed up
[04:43] <steve_don> dazzed: at least you learnt how to search for programs :)
[04:44] <nrbq> squid0, I'm still learning tons - all the time - and that ain't saying much, trust me!
[04:44] <squid0> nrbq: there are some good music programs out for linux, i hear
[04:44] <DocTomoe> Hm, i have a problem installing java. I got the current JDK at sun, and followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (the fakeroot way). However, "fakeroot make-jpkg jdk[...] .bin" tells me that "no plugin was found". Can someone please assist me?
[04:44] <dazzed> steve_don: well i have known usually i grep for things
[04:44] <nrbq> I got so tired of all the bickering I left IRC about 3 years ago and only came back when I got Ubuntu
[04:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell DocTomoe about javadeb
[04:44] <nrbq> squid0, yeah I was looking at 3 yesterday
[04:44] <cybermike> How do i install ubuntu onto a raid1 software array?
[04:44] <zoot_> crimsun: hi, u still there?
[04:44] <dazzed> steve_don: thats why i was just wondering where it was so i could test it manually
[04:44] <er4z0r> cantrel29: I dont know, its not me who tries it but a colleague of min
[04:44] <nrbq> They look like they are pretty good, but there are config issues that I'm just not patient enough to resolve
[04:45] <nrbq> problems between oss/alsa/jack etc.
[04:45] <squid0> nrbq: i've also had a bit of a hard time with those
[04:45] <nrbq> I reckon I'll just dual boot and do all the music stuff with CoolEdit and Cubase and everything else with Ubuntu
[04:45] <nrbq> Sweep looks like a good alternate for CoolEdit, but I'll be damned if I could get it to work
[04:46] <nrbq> It loads fine, but just plays a hiss when I give it a sound file
[04:46] <squid0> DocTomoe: just make the .bin executable (enable execute permissions) and then run it
[04:46] <nrbq> ok - gotta go
[04:46] <jwd> when I reboot I have no connectivity until I type dhclient
[04:46] <nrbq> thanks again to everyone
[04:46] <nrbq> y'all take it easy
[04:46] <jwd> how cna I get that to to automaticazlly
[04:47] <DocTomoe> squid0: it is executable, but it won't install
[04:47] <telonir> updatein 427 packages. its insane
[04:47] <r0xoR> telonir, not as insane as the 966 updates in fedora
[04:47] <telonir> didnt have 966 in fedora
[04:48] <Licker> anyone here?
[04:48] <r0xoR> no
[04:48] <Licker> YES!
[04:48] <telonir> dont think i had that much installed
[04:48] <r0xoR> telonir, well there are 966 packages in updates atm
[04:48] <telonir> i need to slim down ubuntu
[04:48] <cantrel29> er4z0r: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo
[04:48] <r0xoR> of course they don't all get installed
[04:48] <kbrooks> telemaco: updates/additions
[04:48] <telonir> fix the installer
[04:48] <Licker> Im having some probs. My ubuntu sees my 2 network cards but it says it cant configure the network. Any ideas?
[04:48] <telonir> it should ask you what you want
[04:49] <squid0> DocTomoe: go to the directory where it is situated, then type ./path/to/the/jdk.bin
[04:49] <telonir> what i usually do is install base from cd and the rest from theweb- no updates needed
[04:49] <squid0> DocTomoe: but i think it may install in that directory
[04:49] <telonir> fix it!
[04:49] <DocTomoe> squid0: that would install, right, but I need the package, not a bruteforced install
[04:49] <squid0> so make sure it is where you want it to be installed.... (??)
[04:50] <Hendric> can anyone help me to remove PASSWORD AUTHENTICATION on samba sharing????
[04:50] <DocTomoe> squid0: other packages depend on this one
[04:50] <djbrieck> where are log at in general /...
[04:50] <telonir> root is disabled right?
[04:50] <Whistler> will ubuntu still work if i remove my home partition?
[04:50] <telonir> why remove it?
[04:50] <squid0> DocTomoe:  i don't quite understand what you want
[04:51] <WinZ> are anybody using Opera 8.50?
[04:51] <liran_> i've got access (developer) to a sourceforge project, how can i upload files/change documentation etc...?
[04:51] <Whistler> i am
[04:51] <pl_ice> hi
[04:51] <telonir> WinZ, use firefox
[04:51] <WinZ> telonir, it's very slow :(
[04:51] <emile> the post-update information light bolt keept coming back on my breezy laptop, even after rebooting and after deleting ~user/.update-notifier/* any clues how to fix this?
[04:51] <Licker> I am having trouble setting up my network can someone help please?
[04:51] <squid0> telonir: i'm all for FX, but why not opera?
[04:51] <telonir> no its not
[04:51] <DocTomoe> squid0: with fakeroot, you can get JDK packaged to a nice .deb ... and this is the way I need JDK
[04:51] <telonir> startup is slow
[04:51] <WinZ> tabs are slow
[04:51] <pl_ice> any one got really old PC ? ??
[04:52] <WinZ> 3-4 sec
[04:52] <telonir> actually never usedit
[04:52] <telonir> opera has tabs?
[04:52] <WinZ> yes
[04:52] <squid0> telonir: it is very cool. and yes
[04:52] <pl_ice> Licker , what u doing?
[04:52] <Whistler> will ubuntu still work if i remove my home partition? I need to create a new partition out of it
[04:52] <squid0> DocTomoe: i haven't used fakeroot before.
[04:52] <telonir> well maybe i will try opera. fx is eating up memory when you have many tabs :(
[04:53] <WinZ> so.. have anybody installed a flash plugin in opera?
[04:53] <pl_ice> hey, i got really old laptop and under console, all my long names files are cut, eg conf~1 , and i can't install none ...:(
[04:53] <ElkOS> any1 have experience with connecting to a f5 networks sslbox?
[04:53] <WinZ> telonir, http://tinypic.com/easaj9.png (i'm russian :) )
[04:53] <Whistler> will ubuntu still work if i remove my home partition? I need to create a new partition out of it
[04:53] <telonir> and wont release most of it after you close the tabs
[04:53] <squid0> telonir: i am a dedicated fan of FF, but i find opera to be much faster and quite slick
[04:53] <telonir> flash/ mplayer-plugin work in opera?
[04:54] <Licker> I am putting ubuntu on a second pc. Now, my problem is that it tries to Auto-Config my network then returns an error saying my network might not be using DHCP.  It sees my 2 network cards just cant configure them.  Are they bad? Am i doing something wrong?
[04:54] <WinZ> flash is working, but i don't know how to setup it :)
[04:55] <telonir> so it doesnt work?(but should)?
[04:55] <Whistler> Licker dont be scared
[04:55] <pl_ice> Licker, i always configured my via /etc/network/interfaces not gui etc. and there cards, u sure linux can recognise them ? ... it's not wless is it?
[04:55] <WinZ> telonir, yes
[04:55] <Whistler> you can configure them later
[04:56] <WinZ> telonir, it shows that the flash plugin is installed, but doesn't plays movies
[04:56] <Licker> No its not wireless. Im not sure if Linux can rec. them . I just know it tells me what is in slot 1 and 2.
[04:56] <Licker> I dont know how to configure it through anything else...  :/
[04:56] <tosh54> where can i find a beta/devel version of ubuntuguide for breezy?
[04:56] <pl_ice> Licker , u using DHCP?
[04:57] <telonir> bye
[04:57] <Whistler> tosh54 ?
[04:57] <pl_ice> bye
[04:57] <Licker> pl_ice: I dont even know WTF that is. lol.
[04:57] <tritium_> tosh54: the documentation team is working on official docs for breezy, rather than ubuntuguide
[04:57] <tosh54> tritium, ah ok.
[04:58] <pl_ice> Licker , hm.... are u trying to connect with these cards(or one of them to the internet or lan etc?
[04:58] <Licker> pl_ice: yes
[04:58] <Licker> pl_ice: should I just finish the install then go back and configure them?
[04:58] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[04:58] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[04:58] <telonir_> faq all
[04:58] <tosh54> !faq
[04:58] <ubotu> faq is probably The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[04:59] <telonir_> sounds bad
[04:59] <pl_ice> Licker  hey, i didn't tell me u're just installing it :) that's at the begining of installation??
[04:59] <Licker> pl_ice: lol. i tried to say taht up top. Yea im just installing it to my second PC.
[05:00] <ElkOS> is activeX supported with any browser in linux?
[05:00] <Brondoman> Morning (at  least in the US).  Question/problem:  With the 5.10 releases I'm having a bugger of a time installing on my two systems.  One is a home built with an Airlink (atheros) wireless card, the other a Dell 9300 laptop.  On my homebuilt it cannot find the nic.  On the dell it bombs with an error when it goes to install the base system stating it cannot find the CD drive any longer (it's a DV
[05:00] <Brondoman> D for what it;s worth).  On the hedghog release, it would install like a champ on both.  Any ideas?
[05:00] <pl_ice> Licker , u have to find out where u trying to connect to the internet, eg. what IP can your pc have, gateway netmask, and DNS server, then when it says can't use DHCP, configure it manually then add this info, if something u can easily configure it later on
[05:01] <pl_ice> Licker but best at the install so it can fetch other packages, eg. other language settings etc
[05:02] <mhz> hi
[05:02] <Gimp|> hey
[05:02] <Gimp|> how do i get rar and unrar installed?
[05:02] <snowbird> hi
[05:02] <pl_ice> Gimp| apt-get get install rar
[05:03] <sorush20> guys why is my printer so slow, can some one help its using the cups... can I change it to something else so that it becomes faster..
[05:03] <Brondoman> Any ideas on the install issue?  Did 5.10 remove the atheros drivers?
[05:03] <mhz> Gimp|, apt-get install unrar
[05:04] <er4z0r> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo
[05:04] <er4z0r> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo
[05:04] <Gimp|> kyle@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install rar
[05:04] <Gimp|> Reading package lists... Done
[05:04] <Gimp|> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:04] <Gimp|> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:04] <Gimp|> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:04] <Mateo_> Hey :)
[05:04] <Gimp|> is only available from another source
[05:04] <Gimp|> enyc: Package rar has no installation candidate
[05:04] <Echelon-H> is updating to breezy is done automatically? is it safe by now?
[05:04] <pl_ice> Gimp| , enable backports
[05:04] <Gimp|> what is that?
[05:04] <nalioth> Gimp|: do not paste in here. use #flood or a pastebin
[05:05] <Gimp|> ok sorry
[05:05] <pl_ice> Gimp| go to www.ubuntuforums.com and search backports it's another 'places' where u can get programs.. more/less
[05:05] <Mateo_> no way to access to the net with the wifi ...
[05:06] <Licker> pl_ice: where can i find an ip..gateway, dns server info etc
[05:06] <mahangu> ubotu tell Gimp| about backports
[05:06] <pl_ice> Licker how u want to connect to the internet on that 2nd PC?
[05:06] <Brondoman> Did they remove the atheros drivers from the 5.10 release?
[05:06] <Ghoat> my system has been crashing regularly, is there a log file I can check that may give me insight into the cause?
[05:06] <Mateo_> licker>  /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[05:07] <pl_ice> Mateo_ he's trying to install fresh system, has no idea which gateway to use etc...
[05:07] <realite> hii
[05:07] <realite> to everyone
[05:07] <gigaclon> hiii
[05:07] <Licker> mateo_: im just doing the install to da second pc'
[05:07] <net_benjo> hi guys, my apt-get update can't connect to any of the repos.  Is this related to the 5.10 RC?
[05:07] <Echelon-H> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes - this is not working.
[05:07] <Licker> pl_ice: im connecting through a hub
[05:07] <Mateo_> oh .. ok  ...  and youdon't want to do that after your install ?
[05:08] <realite> are there enyone who know mono?
[05:08] <Licker> would that be easier?
[05:08] <DocTomoe> realite: how about joining
[05:08] <DocTomoe> #mono
[05:08] <pl_ice> Licker hub ... hm where the hub is connected? is this PC u typing now on the same hub?
[05:08] <Mateo_> licker > there a graphical  interface    ( pl_ice  isn't it ?? )
[05:08] <realite> yeah
[05:08] <realite> oke
[05:09] <realite> how can i update my mono
[05:09] <jwd> does anyone use their network with comcast and DHCP
[05:09] <realite> ?
[05:09] <Licker> pl_ice: yes this pc is on da hub so is my xp box
[05:09] <pl_ice> Mateo_ yeh, but he doesn't know what ip/gateway ted to use on the fress install of 2nd pc
[05:09] <Gwildor> jwd, i do......
[05:09] <djbrieck> ubuntu should be able to read a ISO 9660 CD rom in i burn one, right
[05:09] <jwd> can I private message you
[05:09] <Gwildor> jwd,  sure
[05:10] <Echelon-H> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes how come this is not working?
[05:10] <darknature> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[05:10] <darknature> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:10] <darknature> 
[05:10] <darknature> can anyone help me with this error
[05:10] <pl_ice> Licker ifconfig , then use almost same info for the 2nd pc, except for the IP, change the last diding, of ur 1st pc, higher etc. and make sure cable is connected to the hub etc
[05:10] <realite> thnx
[05:12] <pl_ice> any one got really old PC? ????
[05:12] <Licker> pl_ice: i type ifconfig into the term win?
[05:12] <Gwildor> pl_ice, how old?
[05:12] <mahangu> Licker, yes
[05:12] <pl_ice> Licker into linux console : ifconfig , u using xp at the moment?
[05:13] <pl_ice> Gwildor i got 300mhz laptop, but under console i can see files truncated: eg. conf~1 can't install shit etc ...
[05:13] <pl_ice> not sure what to do with it
[05:13] <Gwildor> pl_ice, ubuntu?
[05:13] <udreka> hello, one q: if i install the rc now is it enough to apt-get update later to get the same as a final release install?
[05:13] <Licker> no im on my first PC wich has centos...my other pc has ubuntu on it and the other has WIN. then my new one im installing ubuntu on it right now
[05:13] <pl_ice> yes, ubuntu server with iceWM
[05:14] <Licker> :)
[05:14] <Gwildor> pl_ice, what you wanna use it for?
[05:14] <pl_ice> Gwildor i prefer console only, but i can't compile any progs. couse all files are truncated... nothing will work i'm puzzled
[05:15] <Mateo_> who can i solve it please, on e iwconfig i see the wlan with configuration, but when i do an ifup wlan0 i get an failed to bring up wlan0 ...
[05:15] <pl_ice> Licker , for linux: ifconfig, look for eth0 then copy from it :gateway, netmask, IP(change last digit, so it won't collide with other) then put that info to ur unew ubuntu, in windows ipconfig /all
[05:16] <Licker> pl_ice: ifconfig wont work.
[05:16] <Mateo_> Licker, execute: cmd
[05:16] <Mateo_> and then ipconfig
[05:16] <Licker> well i know how to do it on my WIN box. just not linux
[05:17] <Mateo_> ifconfig don't work ?
[05:17] <Licker> no
[05:17] <jwd> is it in your path?
[05:18] <pl_ice> Licker then go to ur lovely xp and type that into console ;) ipconfig /all
[05:18] <Mateo_> you want to know ?? a ifconfig don't see my wlan0 but a iwconfig yes ...
[05:19] <Licker> :/
[05:20] <Licker> my WIN box wont work either.. !@!@!@!@ the command box apears.. displays an error and vanishes
[05:20] <Mateo_> Licker, you type it directly in the execut window or you use a msdos windws ?
[05:21] <Licker> run > cmd >
[05:21] <udreka> hello, one q: if i install the rc now is it enough to apt-get update later to get the same as a final release install?
[05:21] <war-totem> could someone tell me how to add a script to gnome? i dont seem to have a nautilus script directory anywhere
[05:21] <thrice`> of course
[05:22] <Licker> i just clicked network connection details
[05:22] <jwd> if I am using DHCP with comcast
[05:22] <nalioth> udreka: ubuntu uses apt-get which will keep your system up to date
[05:22] <jwd> what should be my hostname entry
[05:22] <adoyretsamon> Licker, you seem to have been infected with a nasty bugger that uses the GPO to stop you running cmd window?
[05:22] <jwd> ipconfig /all
[05:22] <Licker> yea
[05:22] <jwd> shows hsd1.ma.comcast.net
[05:22] <kemik> pl_ice:  really old pc... what about ?
[05:23] <pl_ice> kemik i can see files like that under console : conf~1 all truncated, can't compile nothing etc ... p2 300mhz
[05:23] <kemik> pl_ice:  oops.. seems you've dabbled with some old filesystem or sth
[05:24] <pl_ice> kemik can u explain? i put base ubuntu on it, then iceWM
[05:24] <h08817> anyone in here know where i can get alot of information on web design?
[05:24] <h08817> I need to write a 5 page paper on it
[05:24] <jwd> google.com
[05:24] <adoyretsamon> kemik, some viruses on windows and some recovery tools will shorten names to 8char
[05:24] <adoyretsamon> like that
[05:24] <jwd> or goto the library and grab a book
[05:24] <adoyretsamon> i'll bet dates are fubar'd too
[05:24] <nalioth> h08817: www.w3w.org
[05:24] <h08817> jwd: of course but i was wondering if you knew specific sites
[05:25] <Licker> pl_ice: how do i know what IP addy to use?
[05:25] <jwd> the above is perfect
[05:25] <h08817> nalioth: well they pretty much just teach you but don't have a lot of info do they
[05:25] <jblack> Does the livecd come with sata support?
[05:25] <war-totem> anyone familiar with installing and executing scripts?
[05:25] <nalioth> h08817: w3w is world wide web consortium. (who charts web standards)
[05:25] <jwd> what is the subject of your paper
[05:25] <h08817> nalioth: o sry i confused it with www.w3schools.com
[05:25] <jwd> exactly
[05:25] <h08817> nalioth: thanks
[05:26] <h08817> nalioth: well i chose web design
[05:26] <pl_ice> Licker check all ip of other pc, they have to have unique one, then just add 1 to the end value and use that
[05:26] <h08817> nalioth: i made a website and i just need to write my paper now
[05:26] <Mateo_> someone use a trendnet pc card for wifi ?
[05:26] <Re> help for configurin ftp server.
[05:27] <h08817> jwd: so what do u think it should consist of? All the different types of coding like html, javascript, dhtml etc..?
[05:28] <jwd> yeah
[05:29] <jwd> I would explain why people/companies need websites first
[05:29] <netmonk> before i upgraded to breezy my computer restarted, now when i go "reboot" I need to turn it off from the button and then turn it on again. Can anyone help me fix that?
[05:29] <jwd> than explain the advantages of having one
[05:29] <jwd> than start with HTML
[05:29] <h08817> nalioth: they changed their site to http://www.w3.org/
[05:29] <jwd> hyper text markup language
[05:29] <h08817> jwd: thanks
[05:29] <jwd> than go from there as to how things get more advanced
[05:30] <nalioth> h08817: ty
[05:30] <h08817> o ok
[05:30] <jwd> also explain scripts usage
[05:30] <jwd> CGI
[05:30] <h08817> nalioth:sure
[05:30] <jwd> HTML was the first
[05:30] <jwd> it just got more complex to do more stuff as time went on
[05:30] <h08817> hmm yeah i don't know that much about cgi i guess i gotta learn that
[05:30] <jwd> I had a web page in like 1996
[05:30] <jwd> very very basic
[05:31] <jwd> no one was even using the wbe
[05:31] <h08817> well in 1996 i had not much of a concept of a computer
[05:31] <Mateo_> someone for helping me configuring my wireless connection please ?? ( i have some trouble with ifconfig and iwconfig ... )
[05:31] <jwd> if I was smarter I should of bought every domain name
[05:31] <jwd> from every large company
[05:31] <jwd> that didn't have a website
[05:31] <jwd> :-)
[05:31] <h08817> jwd: lol
[05:32] <renebs> I need help, can anyone assist me? I have installed proftpd (following www.ubuntuguide.org) and Still can't have access to the server. I get connection refused even if I try to connect localy
[05:32] <pl_ice> renebs ur firewall :/
[05:33] <jwd> let me find a site for you H088
[05:33] <h08817> o ok
[05:34] <Tomcat_> !w32codecs
[05:34] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[05:36] <Mateo_> i really need help .. sorry but i'm a newbie and i'm looking for that for 4days ...
[05:36] <h08817> Mateo_: what is ur problem
[05:36] <h08817> something with wireless right?
[05:36] <Mateo_> yes
[05:37] <h08817> well what hardware do u have?
[05:37] <h08817> !wireless
[05:37] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:37] <Mateo_> h08817, ubuntu hoary, a trendnet pc card ( recognized by native )
[05:37] <h08817> Mateo_: check out the link and see if that helps u at al
[05:37] <ompaul> where is the "notification area" in Gnome?
[05:37] <h08817> unless u already did check it
[05:38] <lexton> hello all
[05:38] <lexton> I'm trying to get WEP to work with my dwl-122
[05:38] <Mateo_> h08817, i look that .. but ithink i already did it... just a minute
[05:38] <lexton> I know it will work with the wifi router wide open
[05:38] <h08817> ok
[05:38] <ompaul> never mind
[05:38] <Ofe> !dial-up
[05:38] <ubotu> Ofe: Not a clue
[05:39] <Mateo_> h08817,  my card don't appears
[05:39] <h08817> hmm
[05:39] <h08817> do u have the drivers for it?
[05:39] <h08817> linux probably doesn't recognize it
[05:39] <Mateo_> h08817, on my ifconfig she appears
[05:40] <h08817> hmm
[05:40] <h08817> see when i installed my wireless i didn't have a card
[05:40] <h08817> i had a Netgear USB
[05:40] <Vcc> hola
[05:40] <Vcc> hello
[05:40] <Vcc> :P
[05:41] <h08817> well i am not sure about a pc card
[05:41] <Licker> Ok. I did all that. Now it went through the network part does that mean i did it all correctly?
[05:41] <Mateo_> h08817,  she deseapear from the ifconfig but still on the iwconfig
[05:42] <h08817> i don't know the difference between ifconfig and iwconfig so i don't think i can help you
[05:42] <h08817> what is under your network connections?
[05:42] <pl_ice> Licker u will see, but if it didn't show errors then yeh
[05:42] <Mateo_> h08817, a ifup wlan0 send me:  failed to bring up wlan0
[05:43] <h08817> so wlan0 you can't highlight and configure?
[05:43] <Mateo_> h08817, sorry lol .. i'm french   what is under my network connections ?? you mean pc ?
[05:43] <h08817> no i mean under network under administration
[05:43] <Licker> pl_ice: kk. ill wait till its done i guess. Oh if you already have it installed where do u go to change the info to make it see the internet?
[05:44] <h08817> System -->administration--> networking
[05:44] <pl_ice> Licker there it a GUI for it, or chage the file /etc/network/interfaces
[05:44] <Mateo_> h08817,  wlan0 appears there with eth0 ( my ethernet conection )
[05:45] <h08817> can u configure your wlan0
[05:45] <h08817> try to configure it and then activate it
[05:45] <Licker> pl_ice: what is the GUI called?
[05:45] <chorton> I just upgrade to breezy rc, and GNOME is seeming a tad faster overall.  Is that a normal thing for people or is it just me enjoying the upgrade too much?
[05:45] <h08817> unless u have an ethernet connection
[05:45] <Mateo_> h08817,  i can configure it but can't active it
[05:46] <h08817> why what happens?
[05:46] <theplateau>  how can i add mp3 support to amarok? its saying use an alternate engine, its using gstreamer
[05:46] <pl_ice> Licker system-->administration-->network config. can't miss it
[05:46] <lexton> nalioth you around?
[05:46] <Mateo_> msg who say me that i can't
[05:46] <eth42> has anyone also experienced that Xine and Totem/xine can't calculate the correct time codes for a video in some cases?
[05:46] <theplateau> u mean video and audio is out of sync?
[05:47] <theplateau> i experienced that
[05:47] <stefan_> kennst sich hier jemand aus
[05:47] <Mateo_> h08817,  "verify that your configurations are ok and that your pc is connected to the network"
[05:47] <fusioncow> hi all
[05:47] <pl_ice> my Totem crashes often :/
[05:48] <Kartoffel> what do I need to do if my firewall don't let me choose dsl0, it only let me choose eth0 but its need to be dsl0 and the connection is working! Please help me!
[05:48] <h08817> hmm
[05:48] <h08817> did u load it using modprobe?
[05:48] <brenner> pl_ice: often or all the time?
[05:49] <h08817> !wireless cards
[05:49] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, h08817
[05:49] <h08817> !cards
[05:49] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, h08817
[05:49] <eth42> theplateau: did you refer to me? I also experienced video and audio out of sync. But what I meant is that the mpg2-videos that I mplexed myself don't show the correct timecodes. Like it says that the video is 26 mins long while it is some about 90 minutes...
[05:49] <Mateo_> h08817, modprobe ??
[05:49] <Kartoffel> Why can't I choose it?
[05:49] <nalioth> h08817: read this url, please. !fishing !isnt !appreciated
[05:49] <nalioth> !ubotu
[05:49] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:49] <pl_ice> brenner often, eg. on changing files which i want to watch
[05:49] <h08817> fishing?
[05:50] <gstar> hi, i have breezy running on a vaio with nvidia driver fine in 386 kernel, but when i change to 686 kernel the nvidia module fails to load and thus I can't get into X.. any ideas greatfully received! :D
[05:50] <brenner> pl_ice: have you switched to tomtem-xine yet?
[05:50] <nalioth> h08817: !putting !exclamation 1=
[05:50] <stefan_> kann jemand helfen absuluter newbee
[05:50] <nalioth> h08817: points in front of words
[05:50] <nalioth> !de
[05:50] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[05:50] <nalioth> !fr
[05:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[05:50] <h08817> well whatever
[05:50] <pl_ice> brenner i used that one after ubuntu install, haven't changed it, i don't htink it's t-xine
[05:50] <gstar> i have installed the nvidia-glx package, uninstalled and reinstalled it..
[05:51] <Kartoffel> @stefan_ Try to ask at #linuxpaten... versuchs mal in #Linuxpaten!
[05:51] <nalioth> h08817: the bot is not allknowing, read the  URL about ubotu to see all the triggers
[05:51] <stefan_> wie komm ich da hin
[05:51] <brenner> pl_ice: no, default is totem with gstreamer backend...try switching to totem-xine...you can always go back if you wish anyway
[05:51] <stefan_> #linuxpaten
[05:51] <Kartoffel> enter <slash > join #linuxpaten slash = /
[05:51] <stefan_> #linuxpaten/
[05:51] <Kartoffel> linuxpaten ist deutsch, is german
[05:52] <gstar> anyone?
[05:52] <gstar> or should I hit the forums?
[05:52] <nalioth> stefan_: shreiben /j #linuxpaten
[05:52] <pl_ice> brenner ok will do, and any idea about xmms ? does similar thing :/ but on longer interval
[05:52] <stefan_> danke
[05:52] <chorton> Could anyone tell me how to switch the boot screen away from the kubuntu pic?
[05:52] <Kartoffel> Why can't I choose my dsl0 in my firewall?? it's working fine but is not there
[05:52] <Mateo_> h08817,  i can use modprobe to config my network connection?
[05:52] <eth42> gstar, what's the problem?
[05:52] <gstar> hi, i have breezy running on a vaio with nvidia driver fine in 386 kernel, but when i change to 686 kernel the nvidia module fails to load and thus I can't get into X.. any ideas greatfully received! :D
[05:53] <pl_ice> gstar u need to install nvidia again, that what i think... after u change kernel...
[05:53] <gstar> pl_ice: i did
[05:53] <brenner> pl_ice: if it's not constant weirdness, then no, not really.....try searching the forum
[05:53] <h08817> never mind
[05:53] <gstar> pl_ice: i dpkg --purged it and reinstalled
[05:53] <h08817> ask someone else what to do
[05:53] <eth42> gstar: take the free nv driver instead of nvidia??
[05:53] <northern_monk> gstar: have u tried a reinstall?
[05:54] <Mateo_> someone know i can i solve wifi network problem ?? lol
[05:54] <gstar> northern_monk: of what?
[05:54] <h08817> recheck that wireless think by ubotu just because your card isn't listed doesn't mean it isn't going to tell you how to setup your wireless
[05:54] <northern_monk> the nvidia drivers
[05:54] <gstar> eth42: but then I'd have no hardware 3d acceleration
[05:54] <gstar> northern_monk: yes, done that
[05:54] <brenner> chorton: ask at #kubuntu
[05:54] <northern_monk> whats your card?
[05:54] <gstar> northern_monk: geforce 6300
[05:54] <eth42> gstar: erm, but what do you need 3d acceration for on Linux, especially on a laptop?
[05:54] <pl_ice> gstar hit forum :/
[05:55] <gstar> eth42: that's not a relavent question really is it?
[05:55] <chorton> brenner: Thanks, lemme check there.
[05:55] <northern_monk> are u running with the 686 kernel when you reinstall it?
[05:55] <gstar> eth42: fact is it worked in 386 kernel
[05:55] <brenner> eth42: lots of stuff...opengl programming comes to mind
[05:55] <gstar> eth42: if you must know, I play enemy territory on it, it's quite a powerful laptop :D
[05:55] <brenner> and screensavers. :)
[05:55] <zeroverse_> hello, is there a way i can write to my ntfs drive instead of just reading fromit?
[05:55] <eth42> brenner: a yes, the flying cow, right ? :-D
[05:55] <northern_monk> gstar: are u running with the 686 kernel when you reinstall it?
[05:56] <gstar> toasters!
[05:56] <gstar> northern_monk: yes
[05:56] <eth42> right! :-)
[05:56] <fredforfaen> gstar had the same problem , never got around to fixing it , when i reinstalled the driver it installed on the current kernel not the new one
[05:56] <gstar> fredforfaen: thanks for that.
[05:56] <brenner> eth42: heh...never seen that one, but some of the GL ones i've seen are quite purdy
[05:56] <gstar> thanks... will try re-installing kernel and driver together
[05:57] <eth42> brenner: do i need opengl for vi?
[05:57] <eth42> gstar: I'm not sure that reinstalling helps
[05:57] <eth42> gstar: are you sure that the old kernel module is removed from the system?
[05:57] <ompaul> zeroverse_, it is not recomended that you try to do that, if you do install something that talks to ntfs, it  may blow up the partition, it is down to MS closing and keeping closed how that filesystem
[05:57] <eth42> gstar: check with: updatedb & locate nvidia
[05:58] <eth42> s/&/&&/
[05:58] <brenner> eth42: apt-cache show vim and then check the dependencies, :P
[05:58] <eth42> brenner: see! no 3d acceleration needed for linux
[05:58] <ompaul> zeroverse_, works
[05:58] <eth42> hehe
[05:59] <brenner> eth42: i never said you need it
[05:59] <eth42> brenner: hmmm.
[06:00] <nalioth> that brenner is always causing trouble
[06:00] <kbrooks> ?
[06:00] <kbrooks> nalioth: what has he done?
[06:00] <nalioth> brenner is being brenner
[06:00] <eth42> kbrooks: he did never commit to the statement that 3d acceleration is necessary for linux
[06:01] <kbrooks> define brenner in that context, nalioth
[06:01] <kbrooks> eth42: it isn
[06:01] <kbrooks> isn't.
[06:01] <nalioth> kbrooks: i'm just pullin brenners leg
[06:01] <kbrooks> hardware 3d accel that is
[06:01] <nalioth> kbrooks: and he aint here to react
[06:01] <brenner> kbrooks: nevermind him...._he's_ the real troublemaker
[06:02] <eth42> kbrooks: exactly
[06:02] <kbrooks> nalioth: Life is hard.
[06:02] <eth42> I agree
[06:02] <kbrooks> brenner: i trust nalioth.
[06:02] <CutepoAko> HIIIIIIIIIII
[06:03] <Tomcat_> Do I still need totem-xine to use the w32codecs in breezy? I thought gstreamer was supposed to be able to use those nowadays...
[06:03] <CutepoAko> Anyone ctc?
[06:03] <nalioth> Tomcat_: totem has nothing to do with w32codecs
[06:04] <eth42> Is gstreamer still that terribly slow?
[06:04] <Tomcat_> nalioth: Well not totem, but the gstreamer backend... I read it should be able to use the w32codecs. :o
[06:04] <eth42> nalioth: huh?
[06:05] <nalioth> the w32codecs are used by any program that uses mplayer plugins
[06:09] <pl_ice> catch ya guys
[06:09] <Ekenkrona> Hi guys
[06:09] <Ekenkrona> I'd like to acces my NTFS partition on my other harddrive, is there some way to do that? I have all my music and movies stored there.
[06:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ekenkrona about ntfs
[06:10] <lexton> hi nalioth
[06:10] <nalioth> lexton: howdy
[06:10] <Ekenkrona> Thanks Nalioth. :)
[06:11] <lexton> you said you knew someone who got the dwl-122 and kismet running on ppc?
[06:11] <nalioth> lexton: i have said that somewhere, yes
[06:13] <rodrigo> oi
[06:14] <djm62> how's breezy looking? (IE, I have a spare evening, should I edit'n'go?)
[06:14] <TiMiDo> djm62: so far so good
[06:14] <nalioth> djm62: official release is 6 days away
[06:14] <djm62> yeah
[06:14] <Ekenkrona> Is there a alternative to Winamp for Linux?
[06:14] <TiMiDo> Ekenkrona: xmms
[06:14] <djm62> is it frantic final days, or is it just the stragglers?
[06:14] <djm62> Ekenkrona: or beep media player (more modern)
[06:15] <theine> Hi, is there a simple way to view the differences between my configuration files in /etc and the `original' configuration files contained in the individual packages?
[06:15] <nalioth> Ekenkrona: ubotu loves you
[06:15] <TiMiDo> theine: try nano
[06:15] <nalioth> theine: open a terminal and type "man diff"
[06:15] <theine> nalioth, diff to what?
[06:15] <nalioth> theine: 'diff' compares files
[06:15] <rendell> bobo kayo
[06:15] <brenner> do we assume any remaining bugs will be ironed out by the release date?
[06:16] <TiMiDo> rendell: english please
[06:16] <nalioth> brenner: that is the plan
[06:16] <theine> nalioth, diff /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf ...?
[06:16] <djm62> brenner: any bugs which have been found, and can be fixed
[06:16] <nalioth> theine: either diff --help or "man diff"
[06:16] <theine> nalioth, what shall I fill in for ...?
[06:16] <theine> nalioth, I know how to use diff, that's not the problem
[06:17] <nalioth> theine: then put your two files in as targets
[06:17] <djm62> theine: how much editing have you done? emacs leaves /etc/config~ , which is the last version
[06:17] <theine> nalioth, I know! The problem is that I don't have 2 files, i.e. I don't know where to find the original configuration file that cam with the package
[06:18] <TiMiDo> theine: try google and look for the configurations
[06:18] <tucoz> When updating to breezy, should I do a dist-upgrade using apt-get, or should I use synaptics smart update?
[06:18] <tucoz> (using hoary right now)
[06:18] <theine> djm62, I use vim with ":set nobackup"...
[06:18] <nalioth> theine: ah. look in /var/cache/apt/archive for the deb of the package and open it
[06:20] <aeho> weird, it seems that I have to do "killall esd" to get sound working in enemyterritory, I am even running breezy.
[06:20] <theine> nalioth, I guess I have to do that, I just thought there might be a more convenient way, i.e. apt stores the most recent version of the `upstream' configuration files somewhere...
[06:20] <Ekenkrona> Something tells me I don't have a mp3-decoder installed. :( And I'm not used to Linux either, is there some easy way to have it install for me?
[06:20] <TiMiDo> !tell Ekenkrona about mp3
[06:20] <aeho> Ekenkrona, are you trying to listen mp3:s on rhythmbox?
[06:21] <Ekenkrona> aeho, yes
[06:21] <aeho> install "gstreamer0.8-mad"
[06:21] <aeho> packagew
[06:22] <aeho> it is in universe repository
[06:23] <telonir> i installed the nvidia packages. i do get a splash screen. but when i run glxgears they spin really slow
[06:23] <coolkev> 3 more days
[06:23] <brenner> telonir: glxinfo | grep rendering
[06:23] <telonir> 2) pppoeconf said it has set the adsl to connect at boot. it doesnt
[06:24] <telonir> direct rendering: Yes
[06:24] <Secreth`X> nalioth, what was the url for that qtparted thing?
[06:25] <brenner> telonir: k, so it's enabled...glxgears isn't really a good benchmarking tool....the gears might actually be spinning too fast for you to see!
[06:25] <telonir> exactly in sync so i see them spin perfectly?!
[06:25] <telonir> and where is mplayer?
[06:26] <brenner> telonir: well...what card and what FPS are you getting?
[06:27] <telonir> didnt get an fps message... strange
[06:27] <telonir> nvidia geforce 2 mx 4000 usually 800-900 fps
[06:27] <brenner> telonir: you running it in a terminal?
[06:27] <telonir> yep
[06:27] <Secreth`X> nalioth, what was the url for that qtparted thing?
[06:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Secreth`X about sources
[06:27] <Secreth`X> ty
[06:28] <apus> anyone with experience with 3d gaming in ubuntu?
[06:28] <djm62> apus: some demos
[06:28] <djm62> apus: and the ubiquitous tuxracer
[06:28] <brenner> telonir: mplayer's in multiverse iirc
[06:29] <telonir> if it goes on like this i will switch to debian...
[06:29] <theine> Has anybody installed the Java Media Framework (JMF) for use under Openoffice?
[06:29] <telonir> i found it
[06:29] <apus> demos of what?
[06:29] <telonir> ut2k4
[06:29] <telonir> americas army
[06:29] <apus> any other known titles ?
[06:29] <djm62> apus: wolfenstein, quake3, postal 2, my gfx card is not a happy bunny with the unreal series
[06:29] <telonir> thats what i want the glx for
[06:30] <djm62> america's army, although that creeps me out
[06:30] <telonir> apus, cedega will run almost anything
[06:30] <apus> what about counterstrike
[06:30] <apus> ?
[06:30] <apus> cedega?
[06:30] <telonir> (tried ut goty and warcraft 3)
[06:30] <telonir> yes cedega
[06:30] <apus> whats that?
[06:30] <telonir> no fps message....
[06:31] <dell500> what is breezey suppose to offer?
[06:31] <dell500> or i can look it up on the site accually
[06:31] <telonir> apus, wine, the next generation
[06:31] <SuseUX> ubuntu 5.10 keeps giving me so many goodies :-)
[06:31] <telonir> is there a firewall enabled by default in ubuntu?
[06:32] <apus> dont think so
[06:32] <nalioth> telonir: no not by default
[06:32] <telonir> so far its making me a headache :(
[06:32] <telonir> its just that the ping is high
[06:32] <telonir> in fedora i got 1sec ping with the firewall enabled
[06:32] <telonir> 200-300ms without it...
[06:32] <SuseUX> telonir,  sudo apt-get install firestarter
[06:33] <apus> is it possible to play cs:source in linux (ubuntu)?
[06:33] <SuseUX> if you want one
[06:33] <telonir> a game?
[06:33] <telonir> to test the opengl?
[06:33] <SuseUX> apus, with cedega yes
[06:33] <Buckeroo> can somebody answer a ubuntu-linux question for me.......
[06:33] <nalioth> telonir: actually if you want a 'firewall', read this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[06:33] <apus> what is exactly this cedega?
[06:33] <telonir> ipchains
[06:33] <telonir> apus, wine, the next generation
[06:33] <SuseUX> allows you to play windows games
[06:34] <Buckeroo> .......anyone
[06:34] <TiMiDo> Buckeroo: yeah wuz up/
[06:34] <apus> mhm, interesting :)
[06:34] <telonir> not just games
[06:34] <apus> I'n new to linux ;)
[06:34] <apus> *I'm
[06:34] <TiMiDo> apus: figures
[06:34] <telonir> a windows shell for the apps
[06:34] <TiMiDo> telonir: huh?9$
[06:34] <SuseUX> cedega is pure games
[06:34] <damg> hi, what do i have to add to sources.list to make my kubuntu to be able to install gtk+ apps/ ubuntu stuff?
[06:34] <Xenguy> apus: cedega is a proprietary WINE
[06:34] <SuseUX> but it's not free
[06:35] <SuseUX> it's a choice
[06:35] <Buckeroo> aight, I just installed Ubuntu. Sound server works on startup (the cheesy sound when gnome starts). but all apps like XMMS as soon as I designate an MP3 file to open, XMMS tends to crash. What's going on?
[06:35] <apus> and WINE is?
[06:35] <brenner> damg: /join #kubuntu
[06:35] <TiMiDo> same stuff
[06:35] <apus> red? whitw?
[06:35] <damg> brenner: ok
[06:35] <Xenguy> apus: apt-cache show wine
[06:35] <SuseUX> TiMiDo, how does one install .deb cedega?
[06:35] <Xenguy> apus: before you try cedega, have a look at this site: http://frankscorner.org/
[06:36] <brenner> Buckeroo: change the output plugin to esound or alsa
[06:36] <Buckeroo> I tried, but let me do it again, just to make sure
[06:36] <brenner> Buckeroo: in xmms.....rythmbox will require an mp3 codec
[06:36] <telonir> is oss dead?
[06:36] <Buckeroo> xmms dies, and rythmbox too..... all of them do
[06:36] <Xenguy> apus: and see also the main WINE site for more tips on apps that work with WINE
[06:36] <SuseUX> Xenguy, WINE is useless at games like HL2
[06:37] <SuseUX> and you know it
[06:37] <telonir> wine is useless.
[06:37] <kevogod> WINE works good for Warcraft III.
[06:37] <Xenguy> SuseUX: WINE as opposed to what?
[06:37] <SuseUX> no it's not
[06:37] <SuseUX> but WIne dont play HL2
[06:37] <seth_k|lappy> Wine works great for my statistics / engineering software, that's all I care about
[06:37] <SuseUX> it lacks PS
[06:37] <kevogod> Wine makes me tipsy.
[06:37] <apus> is cedega and wine two similar modules
[06:37] <apus> ?
[06:37] <seth_k|lappy> cedega is a commerical fork of wine
[06:38] <djm62> apus: cedega is a highly-developed fork of wine
[06:38] <djm62> apus: with the emphasis on directX and 3d support
[06:38] <SuseUX> apus, cedega is for playing games only Wine can do both but it not very good at games
[06:38] <Xenguy> apus: cedega is a highly-developed non-free fork of wine :-)
[06:38] <djm62> Xenguy: WORD
[06:38] <apus> ok so cedega is the answer then
[06:38] <apus> :D
[06:38] <SuseUX> for games yes
[06:39] <SuseUX> like HL2
[06:39] <apus> games is the important thing yes
[06:39] <Xenguy> apus: of course not :P
[06:39] <grgcsmc> where can i get an mp3 plugin for totem?
[06:39] <SuseUX> since is you get Pixel shader and vertix shader support
[06:39] <djm62> although if you're a gamer that likes linux, the ultimate solution is to make yourself heard, and vote the only way that counts: with your wallet
[06:39] <apus> of course not what?
[06:40] <Answer> djm62: or learn how to write code heh
[06:40] <SuseUX> apokryphos, look for native installers first
[06:40] <SuseUX> apus, look for native installers first
[06:40] <grgcsmc> where can i find an mp3 plugin for totem?
[06:40] <Answer> !restrictedformats
[06:40] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[06:41] <apus> I ment for using windows applications, games is the important issue
[06:41] <apus> native innstallers, were to look?
[06:41] <SuseUX> looks for the Linux version first
[06:41] <SuseUX> apus, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfdownloads/viewcat.php?cid=25
[06:42] <SuseUX> apus, what windows apps do you need?
[06:42] <ubuntuuser697> hello, could anyone tell me if its possible to have the command "uptime" show up on a webpage!
[06:43] <apus> only games
[06:44] <djm62> ubuntuuser697: yes, just write a cgi script in the language of your choice, and include the output of uptime in it.  google cgi script for more info
[06:44] <SuseUX> apus, then look at that Link, UT2004, DOOM3, Quake4 support Linux
[06:44] <ubuntuuser697> thanks!
[06:44] <Licker> is there a way to optain a new config file?
[06:44] <ubuntuuser697> is there a cmd for bandiwth utilisation too?
[06:44] <ubuntuuser697> i dont want to have to install mrtg
[06:44] <kbrooks> bandwith utilisation?
[06:44] <Blejdfist> iptraf does the trick
[06:45] <ubuntuuser697> k
[06:45] <kbrooks> Blejdfist: link
[06:45] <Blejdfist> apt-get install iptraf :)
[06:45] <ubuntuuser697> hehe
[06:45] <ubuntuuser697> jsut just tried now and didnt work
[06:45] <ubuntuuser697> thanks
[06:45] <Blejdfist> probably in universe or multiverse
[06:45] <kbrooks> Blejdfist: wassat iptraf do
[06:46] <Knelix> Hey guys... I have to do a project for a computer education class hat involves finding and demonstrating a piece of educational software. Everyone else is bringing in Windoze sw, but I want to bring in Linux-compatible software, specifically something to do with English, but anything will help. Would edubuntu have anything special or could I find the same software on synaptic?
[06:46] <Blejdfist> it shows bandwidth usage and package statistics etc
[06:46] <Knelix> *hat =that
[06:46] <Knelix> I'll prob. be away from the comp a while, but I'll read any replies when I get back, btw.
[06:46] <Blejdfist> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/net/iptraf
[06:46] <ubuntuuser697> excellent
[06:46] <ubuntuuser697> many thanks
[06:47] <SuseUX> damn, LOADS of gdesklets goodies :-)
[06:48] <_jason> Knelix:  I haven't used edubuntu but maybe http://www.edubuntu.org/ApplicationSelection will help you
[06:48] <zrothe> Hi
[06:48] <kbrooks> iptraf == very nice
[06:49] <Blejdfist> :)
[06:49] <LazyAngel> why did my installation find both onboard network card, but none of them are working in ubuntu? :(
[06:49] <ubuntuuser697> yehjsut installed it now
[06:49] <ubuntuuser697> looks good
[06:49] <kbrooks> impressive gui
[06:49] <zrothe> I recently switched from an ATI card to a Nvidia...what changes do i need to make so that I can startx. Just edit the xorg.conf?
[06:49] <djm62> gah
[06:49] <kbrooks> ncurseified
[06:49] <ubuntuuser697> ill have to have a look so i can output on my homepage mind
[06:49] <Blejdfist> i think the default is to show kbits/s, but you can change it to kbytes/s in the config
[06:49] <kbrooks> Blejdfist: how
[06:49] <ubuntuuser697> yeh will have a closer look at it tonight
[06:50] <Blejdfist> kbrooks: the configuration is in the menu
[06:50] <Blejdfist> just hit Configuration and then change "Activity mode"
[06:51] <SuseUX> zrothe, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52924 , you dont need to follow it all just a few bits
[06:51] <Blejdfist> to get bw utilization you can go to Detailed interface statistics
[06:51] <zrothe> ty
[06:52] <kbrooks> TEST
[06:53] <SuseUX> zrothe, just install the nvidia-glx package, run the sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and edit xorg.conf like the webpage says
[06:53] <ubuntuuser697> ooh reverse dns lookups
[06:54] <grgcsmc> can some1 get me a link to a realplayer .deb file?
[06:54] <zrothe> SuseUX, I use breezy. Does this still apply to me?
[06:55] <SuseUX> yes, just do what I said last comment
[06:56] <SuseUX> or follow that webpage to install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com
[06:56] <zrothe> how do I get x server to start up again? I guess it is looking for the ATI card
[06:56] <PhoenixByrd> starx?
[06:56] <SuseUX> the webpage says
[06:56] <brenner> grgcsmc: you can get a binary installer off their site iirc
[06:56] <SuseUX> sudo gdm start
[06:56] <grgcsmc> oh
[06:56] <grgcsmc> how do i install it though?
[06:57] <grgcsmc> can u pm me?
[06:57] <topyli> grgcsmc: are you using hoary or breezy?
[06:57] <grgcsmc> hoary
[06:57] <topyli> it's in breezy multiverse
[06:57] <topyli> perhaps you could use that package
[06:57] <SuseUX> yer, just how do you install a .deb?
[06:57] <brenner> !dpkg
[06:57] <brenner> bah
[06:57] <grgcsmc> sudo -i dpkg <insert filenamer here>
[06:58] <topyli> grgcsmc: sorry, that seems to be version 8, you don't want that
[06:58] <Oly_mk2> hi, come to picks some brians, got a question on ssh :p
[06:58] <SuseUX> grgcsmc, 5.10 comes with dpkg installed?
[06:58] <topyli> grgcsmc: i guess my realplayer 10 is from real.com then
[06:58] <brrrt> hello all
[06:58] <brenner> grgcsmc: running a binary installer should be as easy as cd'ing into the directory and then ./<program>
[06:58] <Oly_mk2> i use ssh to run x applications on remote computers a lot, does anyone know if there is a way to bring an already running application onto the remote machine
[06:58] <grgcsmc> im not good at code
[06:59] <grgcsmc> plz pm me
[06:59] <djm62> SuseUX: dpkg -i
[06:59] <djm62> has anyone had problems where a wifi card goes down frequently with sustained heavy throughput
[06:59] <brrrt> is there a way to define a window without borders with metacity?
[06:59] <Oly_mk2> so could i for example bring synaptics on a remote machine to my local machine, as you can not run it twice
[06:59] <topyli> grgcsmc: it's a binary, you just run it like any windows installer
[06:59] <Chousuke> Oly_mk2: not with SSH
[06:59] <brenner> grgcsmc: what topyli  said....it will start a graphical installer iirc
[06:59] <Oly_mk2> okay shame
[06:59] <Chousuke> and ssh -X is slow
[06:59] <grgcsmc> wont open
[07:00] <Oly_mk2> just seems silly killing the application and relaunching it
[07:00] <brenner> grgcsmc: what's the error
[07:00] <Chousuke> you might want to try VNC
[07:00] <Blissex> djm62: I think <djm62> just had those problems.
[07:00] <DAC1138> can someone tell me what the "GNONLIN_LIBS" are and why isnt "gnonlin" in the ubuntu apt repos?
[07:00] <Oly_mk2> ssh -X always works fine for me
[07:00] <Chousuke> I found it very slow.
[07:00] <Oly_mk2> yeah i have vnc and freenx setup
[07:00] <SuseUX> djm62, thanks :-)
[07:00] <Chousuke> freenx?
[07:01] <Oly_mk2> yeah its like vnc but different, you run a whole seperate desktop
[07:01] <Oly_mk2> can use it on slow hardware and works well even on dial up
[07:01] <jbalint> Hi, I am having a problem with sound. It works for system sounds but not in Totem video player.
[07:01] <Oly_mk2> very nice program
[07:01] <Oly_mk2> but you cant view an already running session
[07:02] <Oly_mk2> basically creates a new session/ multiple sessions of a desktop
[07:02] <Oly_mk2> they can be different desktops as well
[07:02] <boxerboy29> anyone have the first clue what beagle is?
[07:02] <DAC1138> boxerboy29, desktop search tool
[07:03] <DAC1138> boxerboy29, need a second clue?
[07:03] <boxerboy29> is it safe to get rid of it?
[07:03] <boxerboy29> it keep erroring webpages
[07:03] <PhoenixByrd> I want beagle and f-spot :((
[07:03] <PhoenixByrd> beagle is a desktop search tool, like google desktop
[07:03] <kbrooks> wow.
[07:04] <Chousuke> I tried installing beagle on Hoary.
[07:04] <Chousuke> it failed.
[07:04] <kbrooks> yum @ mono
[07:04] <Chousuke> is it integrated into breezy?
[07:04] <Oly_mk2> works nicely in breezy :)
[07:04] <brrrt> boxerboy29: i entered a word into beagle and it gave me messages from my instant messenger ehre i mentioned that word :)
[07:04] <kbrooks> Chousuke: 'integrated' -> no
[07:04] <PhoenixByrd> I can't get it installed, pain in the arse with all the dependancies
[07:05] <kbrooks> Chousuke: its packaged for ubuntu tho
[07:05] <Oly_mk2> only problem is i use reiserfs as my file system :/
[07:05] <kbrooks> Chousuke: by integrated i mean in the menu etc
[07:05] <Chousuke> I really can't wait for that ubuntu release which has eveything finally integrated and working.
[07:05] <kbrooks> Chousuke: breezy has lotsa new stuff
[07:05] <Chousuke> it's not breezy, nor will it be Dapper.
[07:05] <boxerboy29> it throws error out something like an illegal code in line 119 it says its a webpage loader or something like that
[07:05] <SuseUX> PhoenixByrd, 5.10 has them, just them and it installs the deps as well
[07:05] <kbrooks> Chousuke: like a ubuntu faq guide
[07:06] <SuseUX> install*
[07:06] <Chousuke> kbrooks: yeah, but it's just new stuff.
[07:06] <kbrooks> Chousuke: ???
[07:06] <[N] ame> I cant wait till ubuntu will install and all my mouse buttons work
[07:06] <brrrt> i upgraded to breezy 2 days ago and everything worked well :)
[07:06] <Chousuke> it's not "We hae accomplished our goals in this distro, and it's polished and cool."
[07:06] <Chousuke> all*
[07:06] <PhoenixByrd> I'm using 5.10, doesn't show up in adept tho. I found the .deb installer tho, just having a pain trying to get all the dependancies
[07:07] <Chousuke> and then you move on to something new.
[07:07] <Chousuke> There are a lot of little things in Ubuntu that don't integrate very well yet
[07:07] <SuseUX> PhoenixByrd, thats because it needs gtk,  it's a gtk+ app
[07:08] <boxerboy29> i want my breezy back :(
[07:08] <SuseUX> works fine here
[07:09] <crimsun> Chousuke: are you taking part in the distro's development to ensure that "eveything finally integrated and working" is the case?
[07:09] <jbalint> anybody know what could let my sound work in normal desktop environment, but not xine/totem?
[07:09] <crimsun> jbalint: under Hoary or Breezy?
[07:09] <[N] ame> I want my mouse buttons to work in breezy... Im into the simple things
[07:09] <djm62> jbalint: apt-get install cripple-xine
[07:09] <jbalint> crimsun: breezy beta
[07:09] <PhoenixByrd> how do I get gtk from apt-get?
[07:10] <brrrt> [N] ame: what kind of mouose do you have?
[07:10] <[N] ame> ms optical intellimouse
[07:10] <[N] ame> 5 button
[07:10] <Chousuke> crimsun: No. :/ And don't get me wrong though, I'm not complaining. :)
[07:10] <kbrooks> PhoenixByrd: not "from apt-get"
[07:10] <jbalint> djm62: What is that? I don't have it. And I have univ,multiv repo's.
[07:10] <brrrt> [N] ame: there is a great mouse tutorial:
[07:10] <djm62> jbalint: n/m
[07:11] <[N] ame> I tried the imwheel for hoary it did not work
[07:11] <PhoenixByrd> kbrooks, from where then? compile the sources?
[07:11] <brrrt> [N] ame: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471
[07:11] <jbalint> djm62: Can you tell me what it is? Or what you think the problem is? So I can make some further speculation..
[07:11] <kbrooks> PhoenixByrd: umm
[07:11] <togster> hello
[07:11] <kbrooks> PhoenixByrd: you dont get it. you meant from the repos
[07:11] <djm62> jbalint: what are you trying to play in them? does rhythmbox work?
[07:12] <brrrt> [N] ame: its for logitch mice but i think it should work with your mouse too
[07:12] <[N] ame> brrrt, thats for hoary
[07:12] <[N] ame> im in breezy
[07:12] <Chousuke> crimsun: I'm not a coder, and translation isn't my thing. I've decided I'll help the community by helping newbies on this channel.
[07:12] <brrrt> hmm
[07:12] <crimsun> Chousuke: sure
[07:13] <jbalint> djm62: Is rhythmbox supposed to work with mp3s?
[07:13] <[N] ame> I am happy that they fixed nautilus, it used to crash on me about every 3 minutes
[07:13] <Chousuke> Though it's pretty difficult as I'm not even running ubuntu right now :/
[07:13] <LOKYTA> OLA
[07:13] <crimsun> jbalint: if you install gstreamer0.8-mad, yes (presuming you have totem-gstreamer installed)
[07:13] <chorton> jbalint: Not from a fresh install.
[07:13] <brrrt> [N] ame: i have a logitech mouse and use a ms-explorer setup in my xorg.conf (on breezy)
[07:13] <crimsun> Chousuke: no excuse since Breezy RC live cds are available :P
[07:13] <jbalint> Ok, I'll get those. Thanks crimsun chorton .
[07:14] <brrrt> [N] ame: i use: "Protocol"              "ExplorerPS/2"
[07:14] <Chousuke> I'm waiting for my ordered CDs to arrive before I'll try PPC ubuntu.
[07:14] <[N] ame> brrrt, I tried installing imwheel and going through the config but it would not work
[07:14] <brrrt> [N] ame: i use: "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
[07:14] <absenth> yeah!!!  only 1 week until Stable
[07:14] <KasperTech> Pleeeease, I can't stand that Tuxracer is lagging on my Radeon x600, wtf do I do???
[07:14] <[N] ame> ill try again...
[07:14] <Chousuke> It'll take a while but I'll do what I can even without Ubuntu.
[07:14] <brrrt> [N] ame: have you tried the "ExplorerPS/2" protocol?
[07:14] <absenth> KasperTech: install the accelerated Radeon Drivers
[07:15] <usuari__> ola
[07:15] <KasperTech> absenth: I'd sure love to.
[07:15] <usuari__> ai alguien?
[07:15] <usuari__> repiteixon plis
[07:15] <hector> si aca
[07:15] <KasperTech> D'you have any proposals on how-to?
[07:15] <usuari__> you qblar en sapnish
[07:15] <spola> yo yo yo
[07:15] <usuari__> a ola herctor
[07:15] <absenth> KasperTech: on  Hoary or Breezy
[07:15] <KasperTech> Hoary, 5.04 I think..
[07:15] <usuari__> hector estas ai?
[07:15] <Chousuke> !es
[07:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:15] <hector> ya
[07:15] <KasperTech> The lastest anyways, absenth.
[07:15] <hector> hola
[07:16] <hector> si
[07:16] <hector> aca
[07:16] <hector> usuari
[07:16] <LOKYTA> ola
[07:16] <hector> de donde eres
[07:16] <hector> lokyta
[07:16] <hector> hola
[07:16] <hector> tambien
[07:16] <rob_p> Has anyone else noticed strange/unrequested connections to bbc.co.uk from Firefox when it first starts up?  This smells of spyware but I don't want to jump to conclusions...  It's only observable by doing a packet dump while launching Firefox.  The site doesn't actually show up in the browser window.  Anyone have any input?
[07:16] <esac> i downloaded a root certificate, and i need to know how to add it to (i guess openssl) as a trusted certificate. i have googled for it, but i can only find how to add it to apache. any help appreciated
[07:16] <usuari_> soy de brcelona
[07:16] <chorton> rob_p: Check to see if you have their rss feed in your bookmarks.
[07:16] <djm62> rob_p: the "latest headline" thing
[07:17] <hector> a mira
[07:17] <hector> y tu nombre
[07:17] <usuari_> estoy buena y tu
[07:17] <usuari_> estela
[07:17] <rob_p> chorton:  I'll check...
[07:17] <hector> ha y qe haces
[07:17] <Chousuke> hector: usuari_: English or #ubuntu-es, please
[07:17] <djm62> rob_p: nothing sinister (and a nice way to remind the bbc of alternative browsers)
[07:17] <kbrooks> need mplayer plugin
[07:17] <rob_p> djm62:  Yes!  That seems to be the contents.
[07:17] <kbrooks> ideas
[07:17] <chorton> rob_p: Like djm62 said, the latests headline folder is an rss feed from their latest news
[07:17] <usuari_> ablame de ti
[07:17] <jbalint> I tried gstreamer-properties and the esd sink "test" doesn't play anything....
[07:17] <graig> im using breezy, and my sound started messing up today.  my sb live is now making wierd noises when i play music.  and it seems like half the channel is missing.
[07:17] <hector> esta sala es en ingles
[07:18] <crimsun> graig: did you dist-upgrade from Hoary, or is this a clean install of Breezy?
[07:18] <djm62> rob_p: if you look at the bottom right corner on a site with rss (like slashdot, for instance) you get an antenna aerial which you can click on to subscribe
[07:18] <rob_p> chorton:  Ok!  That appears to be it!  Thanks for the info.  I was getting a little nervous :-)
[07:19] <SuseUX> rob_p, Windows days, thats why :-)
[07:19] <kbrooks> so....
[07:19] <kbrooks> beagle == magic
[07:19] <LOKYTA> OLA
[07:19] <_jason> kbrooks:  use mplayer plugin 3.11 there is a howto on the forums
[07:19] <chorton> beagle = google desktop search for nix
[07:19] <rob_p> djm62:  Yeah.  That was it.  Nervousness now fading...  :-)
[07:19] <SuseUX> just use totem plugin
[07:20] <LOKYTA> ai alguien?
[07:20] <hector> chousuke: this room is for read inglish
[07:20] <kbrooks> chorton: i love it
[07:20] <LOKYTA> eres jilipollas?
[07:20] <Answer> What is the linux command equivalent to windows "tracert" ?
[07:20] <_jason> SuseUX:  how does one setup totem plugin?
[07:20] <brrrt> traceroute
[07:20] <LOKYTA> spaniish
[07:20] <hector> ggggggggg
[07:20] <djm62> Answer: traceroute
[07:20] <Chousuke> hector: I'm not sure I understand you. But go speak spanish to some other channel, please.
[07:20] <rob_p> SuseUX:  Yeah.  Like I said, I didn't want to jump to conclusions but it did catch my attention.  Glad to know what it was.
[07:20] <LOKYTA> ola
[07:20] <djm62> cryptic, I know, but one gets used to it ;)
[07:21] <kbrooks> _jason: link
[07:21] <Answer> brrrt, djm62: thanks.  traceroute
[07:21] <hector> ok
[07:21] <LOKYTA> ola
[07:21] <Answer> How do I get commands in /sbin and /usr/sbin to execute without the full path?
[07:21] <SuseUX> _jason, I use 5.10 it's already there
[07:21] <Chousuke> Hm.
[07:21] <LOKYTA> hola
[07:21] <SuseUX> totem xine works best
[07:21] <LOKYTA> estoy cachonda
[07:21] <LOKYTA> gtr
[07:21] <_jason> kbrooks:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60505
[07:21] <cowbud> SuseUX: indeed it does
[07:21] <cowbud> Answer: add it to your PATH variable..in .bashrc or in /etc/profile
[07:21] <LOKYTA> como estas tu
[07:22] <djm62> Answer: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin:/sbin
[07:22] <_jason> SuseUX:  oh I dist upgraded and it kept my player-plugin... I like it but I'd like to see the alternatives to compare the two
[07:22] <SuseUX> plays quicktime trailers nice
[07:22] <nalioth> !es
[07:22] <Answer> djm62: thanks.   export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin:/sbin
[07:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:22] <LOKYTA> abla en castellano
[07:22] <djm62> Answer: is how you do what cowbud told you to do
[07:22] <Chousuke> nalioth: They don't seem to believe
[07:22] <nalioth> por favor, habla espaol en #ubuntu-es
[07:22] <lokita> ola
[07:22] <LOKYTA> como estas
[07:22] <lokita> eres jilipollas
[07:23] <nalioth> esta canal esta solo ingles, por favor
[07:23] <LOKYTA> hola
[07:23] <SuseUX> _jason, just remove the plugin from .mozzila/plugins
[07:23] <LOKYTA> como te llamas
[07:23] <lokita> ai alguien ai?
[07:23] <Chousuke> Now it seems to me that he's trolling.
[07:23] <LOKYTA> si
[07:23] <SuseUX> .mozzila*
[07:23] <gully> hi everybody ^^
[07:23] <clast> anyone using gnucash here?
[07:23] <jbalint> djm62: Ok, I tried the sound and rhythmbox does not work either.
[07:24] <Tomcat_> clast: Yep.
[07:24] <lokita> ola
[07:24] <graig> are you having sound problems with breezy?
[07:24] <xaae> i need some help
[07:24] <graig> cause i am too.
[07:24] <LOKYTA> hola
[07:24] <lokita> estas otra vez ai copiona
[07:24] <lokita> 
[07:24] <graig> and i wasn't having any problems yesterday.
[07:24] <jbalint> graig: For me it works in the desktop, but not the media player.
[07:24] <clast> Tomcat_, does it work for you?
[07:24] <LOKYTA> si
[07:24] <Tomcat_> clast: Absolutely.
[07:24] <lokita> cabroncilla
[07:24] <gully> i only have a question when i use hdparm to activate the udam in mi cdrom or hd i receive a error
[07:24] <nalioth> lokita: lokita ingles aqui, por favor
[07:24] <clast> Tomcat_, hmm...are you using breezy?
[07:24] <Tomcat_> clast: Nope, hoary
[07:24] <xaae> i cant get totem to play files
[07:24] <chorton> !meaning of life
[07:24] <ubotu> it has been said that meaning of life is 42
[07:24] <nalioth> LOKYTA: ingles aqui, por favor
[07:24] <xaae> can any body help
[07:25] <LOKYTA> hola
[07:25] <lokita> gully
[07:25] <SuseUX> xaae, which onces?
[07:25] <lokita> ???=?????????
[07:25] <LOKYTA> quien eres
[07:25] <lokita> mierdecilla
[07:25] <xaae> mpgs
[07:25] <_jason> SuseUX:  I don't have that directory .mozzila/plugins
[07:25] <lokita> wse+ydfckwjrehgvi4tfnuipqkj43wuhevbjnyhre2kurf7ion32uitkly89wen9yhuip6r4iouyfjh8967r4ko6r79hn
[07:25] <gully> the error is HDIO_SET_DMA_FAILED
[07:25] <xaae> avi
[07:25] <gully> what can i do please to resolve this
[07:25] <SuseUX> _jason, just remove the plugin from .mozilla/plugins
[07:25] <clast> Tomcat_, well, it's not working for me under breezy! it can't load some font! and just crashes right at startup
[07:26] <[N] ame> excellent
[07:26] <graig> for some reason im getting echos and stuff with my soundblaster live.
[07:26] <xaae> can any body help
[07:26] <[N] ame> imwheel now works right for me in breezy
[07:26] <_jason> SuseUX:  I don't have "plugins" in my .mozilla directory
[07:26] <gully> hi lokita
[07:26] <SuseUX> xaae, try installing totem xine, and look for any codecs
[07:26] <crimsun> graig: did you answer my question?
[07:26] <SuseUX> _jason, what browser?
[07:26] <_jason> SuseUX:  firefox
[07:27] <[N] ame> are there codecs w32 for breezy?
[07:27] <_jason> SuseUX:  .mozilla in my home directory correct?
[07:27] <SuseUX> _jason, sorry I use galeon, had the plugins installed from slackware
[07:27] <_jason> SuseUX:  oh ok
[07:27] <Loki_VA> hi people
[07:27] <_jason> SuseUX:  I have galeon isntalled, let me try it out to see if it has that plugin
[07:27] <clast> [N] ame, yes
[07:28] <Loki_VA> I'm wondering when doing a netboot.. after getting the mini installer started where in a ubuntu mirror exactly should I point the installer?
[07:28] <KasperTech> Pleeeease, I can't stand that Tuxracer is lagging on my Radeon x600, wtf do I do now that absenth left?
[07:28] <clast> !w32codecs
[07:28] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[07:28] <_jason> !tell [N] ame about w32codecs
[07:28] <xaae> does any body now a good video player ubutu
[07:28] <hector> hi
[07:28] <[N] ame> clast, can i get it through apt in breezy?
[07:28] <xaae> tht players all formats
[07:28] <Loki_VA> ie just mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu or a particular dir?
[07:28] <SuseUX> xaae, totem, xine
[07:28] <djm62> xaae: I like either mplayer or vlc
[07:29] <xaae> i have tired them they to
[07:29] <_jason> xaae:  try the "totem-xine" package too
[07:29] <xaae> hard to install
[07:29] <clast> [N] ame, yes!
[07:29] <_jason> xaae:  "totem-xine" is easy
[07:29] <clast> !tell [N] ame about w32codecs
[07:29] <Loki_VA> Anyone know?
[07:29] <xaae> ok where can i get it
[07:29] <SuseUX> xaae, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[07:29] <graig> ok, LOL i think i fixed my sound problem.  my cord was partially out.  <dumb
[07:30] <xaae> wht
[07:30] <crimsun> *smack*
[07:30] <graig> oops hehe.
[07:30] <xaae> im new to linux
[07:30] <[N] ame> that does me no good
[07:30] <[N] ame> im at work torrent ports are blocked
[07:30] <Kilter> graig: my kids had a sound problem the other day after adding a new card instead of using the motherboard sound... they had the speakers plugged into the old ports ;)
[07:30] <[N] ame> and thats to download the debs
[07:31] <[N] ame> Id prefer using apt
[07:31] <SuseUX> xaae, type in the terminal sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[07:31] <xaae> yes i did
[07:31] <xaae> it says
[07:31] <xaae> Reading package lists... Done
[07:31] <xaae> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:31] <xaae> Package totem-xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:31] <xaae> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:31] <xaae> is only available from another source
[07:31] <xaae> E: Package totem-xine has no installation candidate
[07:31] <kbrooks> NO
[07:32] <SuseUX> most be another name
[07:32] <zrothe> what is the command to configured the xorg.conf file?
[07:32] <zrothe> configure*
[07:32] <KasperTech> zrothe: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:33] <SuseUX> xaae, it's the correct name, did you enable universe?
[07:33] <KasperTech> ATI drivers, anyone??
[07:33] <kbrooks> SuseUX: gone
[07:33] <chorton> zrothe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-conf
[07:33] <SuseUX> :-)
[07:33] <djm62> zrothe: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:33] <LKnight> exit
[07:33] <chorton> zxsykco: I think
[07:33] <chorton> zrothe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xorg rather
[07:33] <kbrooks> chorton: no
[07:33] <chorton> djm62: Gotta make me wrong again
[07:34] <chorton> :-P
[07:34] <djm62> chorton: didn't even notice...damn fridays ;)
[07:34] <chorton> I'm stuck at home from work, dang stupid pinched nerve.
[07:35] <SuseUX> The only probelm I have with ubuntu is the package names, many of the same thing
[07:35] <nalioth> SuseUX: use synaptic
[07:35] <KasperTech> Now, PLEASE. I've got to make this work?
[07:35] <SuseUX> i'm just saying some how they could make the names not so confusing
[07:35] <KasperTech> What do I do to make my ATI Radeon x600 run properly (like without crashing in TuxRacer)??
[07:35] <SuseUX> like the kernel packages
[07:36] <ompaul> KasperTech, have you done what the bot suggests?
[07:36] <djm62> KasperTech: search the wiki for ati, there are driver things
[07:36] <KasperTech> I *have* installed the FGLRX driver, it sucks.
[07:36] <KasperTech> What else can I do? ompaul and djm62.
[07:37] <LazyAngel> anyone wanna help me to get network connection?
[07:37] <cevizoglu> how do I turn off the touchpad for a thinkpad t43?  it's interfering continually
[07:37] <djm62> KasperTech: uncomment the "sucks" option in xorg.conf or provide better information on what goes wrong
[07:37] <SuseUX> thats the only down point with ubuntu, cannot seem to find any others :-)
[07:37] <KasperTech> djm62: It's able to pull Xorg alright. But when I run Tuxracer it lacks horribly.
[07:37] <KasperTech> Can't even move the pointer without extreme lag.
[07:38] <djm62> KasperTech: glxgears?
[07:38] <KasperTech> What's that?
[07:38] <_jason> cevizoglu:  i turn my touchpad off in bios
[07:38] <djm62> KasperTech: in fact, run glxinfo and see what it says about Direct Rendering
[07:38] <LazyAngel> if i write ifconfig, i just get eth0 without ip adress (only ip v6). But it is 2 network card on the mainboard. None of them work. But under instalation, and the livecd, at least one of them did work
[07:38] <cevizoglu> _jason: ah, thanks, will try  :)
[07:38] <KasperTech> djm62: A sec, will you hang on :)?
[07:39] <djm62> no worries
[07:39] <boxerboy29> congrats ubuntu channel your the only ppl on irc help channles that help
[07:39] <KasperTech> djm62: Thanks :) It says Direct Rendering: no
[07:39] <Grant_> ummm have a broken something cos when i apt-get update i get this Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:39] <kbrooks> :)
[07:40] <djm62> KasperTech: that's a configuration thing, the acceleration isn't broke, it just isn't on
[07:40] <KasperTech> I see.
[07:41] <KasperTech> djm62: The solution would then be to turn that Rendering on, right? But How???
[07:41] <boxerboy29> grant you didnt do that  that seems to be a bad link/source/repo
[07:41] <djm62> KasperTech: you'll need to change some settings in your xorg.conf, try googling xorg and the name of your card
[07:41] <KasperTech> Okay.
[07:41] <Grant_> boxerboy29: but it was good the other day...
[07:41] <djm62> KasperTech: it's not heavy stuff, some "no"s to "yes"s
[07:41] <spiral> hi
[07:41] <boxerboy29> md5sum is like a serirl number
[07:42] <boxerboy29> yes i cant spell
[07:42] <Grant_> so does that mean i should just comment it out and then try leter ?
[07:42] <Grant_> *later
[07:42] <hector> hi spiral
[07:42] <PhoenixByrd> (%BCPU%B): AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100+: (%BFrequency%B): 1729.140MHz: (%BCache%B): 256 KB: (%BBogomips%B): 3424.25
[07:43] <boxerboy29> like when you download an operating system step 3 or 4 is to check md5sum if not matched it wont work
[07:43] <boxerboy29> idid you get that one from synaptic?
[07:44] <boxerboy29> -i
[07:44] <djm62> boxerboy29: it's a checksum, rather than a serial no.
[07:44] <graig> you know how, in ubuntu they replaced the gnome foot icon with the ubuntu logo?  where can i find the ubuntu logo on the hard drive?  none of my icon themes work on that icon now.
[07:45] <djm62> damn
[07:46] <Grant_> actually dont worry about the above... its working now
[07:46] <boxerboy29> grant if you open your update manager clcik on prefferences and than settings click the 3 empty boxes and click ok now youll see boxes next to sources check all unchecked and reload
[07:46] <dima2001> aah, how can i activate APM?
[07:46] <fsmw> hi, i'm on the launchpad looking for translations pending, how can i get a translation to work on it?
[07:46] <TiMiDo> dima2001: man apm
[07:46] <dima2001> TiMiDo, didnt know that there is a page for apm, thanks :D
[07:47] <TiMiDo> np dima2001
[07:47] <sergio> hola
[07:47] <TiMiDo> !es
[07:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:47] <kbrooks> !en
[07:47] <ubotu> kbrooks: No idea
[07:48] <djm62> gah
[07:48] <djm62> has anyone experienced wireless card failure due to overheating?
[07:48] <Chadza> djm62, That's possible?
[07:48] <hmrocha> hello, i'm having a big trouble with ubuntu, the problem description is a little long
[07:48] <hector> where existence the room in spanish
[07:48] <TiMiDo> hmrocha: well, try explaining the problem
[07:48] <djm62> Chadza: well
[07:48] <kbrooks> !es
[07:48] <hmrocha> i installed ubuntu in all computer of my department in my faculty
[07:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:48] <TiMiDo> hector: #ubuntu-es
[07:48] <`6og> wow. its full at 3am in here :O
[07:48] <kbrooks> TiMiDo: i told him
[07:49] <mirak> hi
[07:49] <hmrocha> only users in plugdev group are allowed to mount usb devices
[07:49] <hector> ok
[07:49] <TiMiDo> mirak: hello
[07:49] <djm62> Chadza: I have an ancient card, and under heavy sustained load it drops connection
[07:49] <kbrooks> `6og: what, you didnt think it was?
[07:49] <mirak> how do I recreate a samba configuration from scratch ?
[07:49] <hector> thank you
[07:49] <kbrooks> would be*
[07:49] <`6og> kbrooks: iv never seen it this full
[07:49] <TiMiDo> !tell mirak about samba
[07:49] <hmrocha> i changed that so that only users in group students could do that, because our user information is stored in AD
[07:49] <`6og> oh, hte nic
[07:49] <boxerboy29> i can only wish it was 3am :(
[07:49] <graig> hey i just installed beagle, but i dont see how to access it.
[07:49] <`6og> lol boxerboy29
[07:49] <Chadza> djm62, I can't say I've ever herad of anything like that.
[07:49] <kbrooks> `6og: ubuntu is like a big house with inviting and open people ;)
[07:49] <djm62> Chadza: I've used it for many years, always on linux, on two different architectures and 2 different kernel releases, and it's been fine
[07:50] <hmrocha> by the problem is that we have accounts for projects that don't belong to the students group
[07:50] <hmrocha> account projects are exported with NIS
[07:50] <Chadza> graig, Check in Applications/Accessories/Beagle Search
[07:50] <TiMiDo> graig: man beagle
[07:50] <kushboy> hey, I'm having trouble building Firefox on ubuntu. Is anyone familiar with this?
[07:50] <Chadza> Or make an app launcher in the panel and pick it from that.
[07:50] <djm62> Chadza: but on my new laptop, it seems to drop connections...the new laptop is: hotter; connected to a different router; and that's it
[07:50] <hmrocha> i added all usernames of this machine to the students group
[07:50] <`6og> i think this is the nic you know me as kbrooks ;)
[07:51] <TiMiDo> kushboy: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox or apt-get install firefox
[07:51] <boxerboy29> i just deleted it and now i couldnt be happier well i could but the #other channel has to help first
[07:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> not this one :D
[07:51] <sergio> hello
[07:51] <TiMiDo> sergio: hello
[07:51] <kbrooks> `6og: do i know you?
[07:51] <hmrocha> the users are in the students group when i ssh to the machine that has the users, but in the local (ubuntu) machine, they don't belong to that group
[07:51] <noplease> hi
[07:51] <TiMiDo> noplease: hello
[07:51] <dima2001> TiMiDo, well, apm is not quite what i needed. my battery is going low too fast - although it should work at least 2.5 hours (up to 4.7), it is alreqdy empty at ~1:40. it is a toshiba m50 satellite and I think that I have to avate something to spare some energy. the notebook an the accu are 24 hours old ...
[07:51] <hmrocha> ...so, user that log with project accounts can't user usb devices
[07:51] <`6og> kbrooks: as kamping_kaiser
[07:51] <kushboy> Well, I kind of want to make my own version of firefox, you know? So I get the mozilla-firefox dev
[07:51] <djm62> Chadza: it happens on large downloads, which is damn frustrating
[07:51] <hmrocha> any help?
[07:52] <TiMiDo> brb
[07:52] <Chadza> graig, And then Applications/Accessories/Searching and Indexing is where you set preferences
[07:52] <graig> hmm, i don't think beagle got installed,  trying to install it again.
[07:52] <kbrooks> `6og: lol
[07:52] <Chousuke> Ok, so I have 100km awa from me a computer on which gnome-panel exits with status 255.
[07:52] <Chadza> graig, Didn't see it there?
[07:52] <Chousuke> Any ideas where to start?
[07:52] <`6og> this is one of my 2 main nics ;)
[07:52] <Chadza> djm62, Does the problem also occur where the connection just dissapears?
[07:52] <rob_p> djm62:  Yes.  It's quite possible.  I had an old Prism wireless card that would do the same thing.  I connected it to a spectrum analyzer and watched the signal+noise/noise.  Once the card heated up, the signal integrity became so poor that it did have trouble staying connected.  When allowed to cool, it returned to functioning.
[07:53] <nalioth> graig: open a terminal and type "ps aux|grep beagled"
[07:53] <graig> ok. i found it.
[07:53] <luis_> helo
[07:53] <nalioth> luis_: howdy
[07:54] <kushboy> TiMiDo: Is there any way to build the mozilla-firefox-dev that I APTed?
[07:54] <djm62> rob_p: you are truly a geek
[07:54] <djm62> rob_p: you are truly a geek
[07:54] <nalioth> kushboy: debs are installable usually
[07:54] <djm62> hmm, I have a thick pcmcia slot...wonder if I can keep it a bit cooler
[07:54] <rob_p> djm62:  RF is my dayjob :-)
[07:55] <boxerboy29> is it safe to assume lets say firefox 1.0.7 works in ubuntu but doesnt work in suse its a suse source codde issue not a firefox one?
[07:55] <mirak> TiMiDo: the problem I don't have the samba config file in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:55] <nalioth> boxerboy29: this is not #suse
[07:55] <kushboy> nalioth: What do you mean?
[07:55] <djm62> rob_p: I got it down to "temperature", and during this IRC/dist-upgrade session, I've been taking it out and blowing on it when it goes down
[07:55] <nalioth> kushboy: you can install mozilla-firefox-dev using synaptic
[07:55] <boxerboy29> yes i know that wasnt a spiceic suse quwestion though
[07:55] <graig> beagle just says beagle deamon isn't running,
[07:56] <djm62> rob_p: newer cards have this sorted?
[07:56] <brrrt> when i try to comile alltray on my "breezy64" i get: checking for gcc... no
[07:56] <rob_p> djm62:  You're better off with a new card, yes.
[07:56] <brrrt> what can i do?
[07:56] <kushboy> nalioth: Well, I did that and it basically created a directory of the source. But do you know of any way of building from that source? Does that make sense?
[07:56] <nalioth> brrrt: install "build-essential"
[07:56] <kbrooks> brrrt: apt-get install build-essential
[07:56] <brrrt> nalioth: kewl, thx
[07:56] <kbrooks> ubotu: gcc
[07:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.
[07:56] <nalioth> kushboy: it shouldnt have made a directory of anything
[07:56] <brrrt> kbrooks: perfect ;) thx !
[07:57] <nalioth> kbrooks: build-essential
[07:57] <kushboy> nalioth: What should the -dev package do?
[07:57] <djm62> gah, ah well...new job new hardware
[07:57] <nalioth> brrrt: installing "build-essential" will get you gcc and other things used to compile software
[07:57] <rob_p> djm62:  The technology has gotten better and the hybrids used in recent cards generate much less heat than the older ones did.
[07:57] <djm62> cheap and good pcmcia wifi card: any recommendations?
[07:58] <nalioth> kushboy: the -dev package of anything allows you to build software using components of that package
[07:58] <chorton> djm62: The microsoft line isn't bad, actually.
[07:58] <chorton> djm62: Got one of their b cards for 20 bucks a few weeks ago.
[07:58] <djm62> rob_p: interesting...I used it on an original pentium toughbook...must have acted as a giant heatsink, so the problem never came up
[07:58] <kushboy> nal: Ok, so what should I do to build the software now? How do I utitlize the package once I've apt-get it
[07:58] <mirak> how do I reobtain the default samba smb.conf file ?
[07:59] <djm62> chorton: out of the box on ubuntu?
[07:59] <brrrt> nalioth: i c
[07:59] <rob_p> djm62:  These days, they all are fairly robust from a hardware standpoint.  Usually the issues that arise anymore are due to firmware bugs or drivers for un-supported OS'es, etc.
[07:59] <nalioth> kushboy: if you install mozilla-firefox-dev using apt-get or synaptic, there is no building involved
[07:59] <kbrooks> ubotu: build-essential
[08:00] <ubotu> kbrooks: Syntax error in line 1
[08:00] <chorton> djm62: Yeah. Ubuntu has supported every peice of hardware on all of my pc's out of the box, aside from sound on the mac mini
[08:00] <olicat> hi all. using the network config tool, i can see how to set up my wireless card to connect to a network, but how can i set it up to be an AP?
[08:00] <kushboy> nal: Ok, but what do I do now...that I have it, you know? Can I do anything with it?
[08:00] <kbrooks> ubotu: gcc not found is <reply>gcc not found? install build-essential
[08:00] <ubotu> okay, kbrooks
[08:00] <nalioth> kushboy: i dont know what you've got exactly
[08:01] <will> hi, how do i list all hard disks?
[08:01] <kushboy> nal: Ok, well I gotta go. I'll look into. Thanks for your help!
[08:01] <charly_> nadjyla je te parle en priv
[08:01] <olicat> anyone?
[08:01] <nalioth> !fr
[08:01] <ubotu> it has been said that fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:02] <[N] ame> ok I got avi working in breezy but I got no sound
[08:02] <[N] ame> I have sound in the rest of the system
[08:02] <brrrt> will: ls -l /dev/hd* && ls -l /dev/sd*  is what i do
[08:02] <limer> trying to restore my ubuntu after switching drives to second ide.  I can't edit menu.lst b/c read-only filesystem
[08:02] <will> brrrt: thanks!
[08:02] <rob_p> olicat:  You'll need the linux hostap driver and hostap utilities.
[08:03] <limer> using knoppix btw
[08:03] <brrrt> will should show all ide, sata, scsi drives and partitions
[08:03] <Mizutsuki> hey, I'm having some difficulty with preformance in BB, all of the screensavers and any 2d or 3d apps run at rediculously slow framerates, I think it might have to do with the driver, I'm using an S2 Savage MX, any thoughts?
[08:03] <[N] ame> using totem-xine, system has sound but avi play back does not. Any suggestions?
[08:03] <olicat> rob_p, ok thanks, i'll look into that
[08:03] <[N] ame> using breezy
[08:04] <will> brrrt: opps im dumb, forgot they are all listed in /dev !! thought it was some wierd hdparm command!
[08:04] <kensourd> Bonsoir tou le monde
[08:04] <rob_p> olicat:  do a, "apt-cache search hostap" and you should find what you need to make it work.  Good luck.  It's not the most straight forward thing to get working but once you do, it does work.
[08:04] <nalioth> !fr
[08:04] <ubotu> it has been said that fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:05] <olicat> cool
[08:05] <Gwildor> [N] ame, disable system sounds?
[08:05] <kbrooks> !gcc
[08:05] <ubotu> gcc is, like, totally, the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.
[08:06] <[N] ame> disabling system sounds will make avi sounds work?
[08:06] <kbrooks> !gcc not found
[08:06] <ubotu> gcc not found? install build-essential
[08:09] <djm62> this upgrade will continue if it kills me
[08:10] <chorton> djm62: How much time is this and the weather?
[08:10] <djm62> scotland in near-winter...nice
[08:10] <kbrooks> djm62: good thing i'm on a desktop here .....
[08:11] <chorton> Ah.
[08:11] <chorton> Well, good luck with that.
[08:12] <calamari> hi
[08:12] <calamari> !firewall
[08:12] <ubotu> firewall is, like, totally, Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[08:21] <benkong2> could anyone help me with wireless question. I have everything installed just curious where the wireless lan configs are stored? also why system seems to get confused if I have a lan cable plugged in and there is a wireless signal also.
[08:21] <yosel> join #ubuntu
[08:22] <yosel> hi
[08:22] <ramblingturtle> where would i locate the md5sum for the breezy cd i downloaded
[08:22] <benkong2> thanks
[08:22] <chorton> benkong2: System/Administration/Networking
[08:22] <chorton> Pick a default interface.
[08:23] <benkong2> I did and I activated it but my linksys has broadcast ssid turned off.
[08:23] <Omnica> anyone in here know how to install airsnort with ubuntu
[08:24] <deFrysk> ramblingturtle, md5sum <theisofile> <enter> in your console
[08:24] <deFrysk> ramblingturtle, and wait for the result
[08:24] <ramblingturtle> deFrysk, Thank You
[08:24] <chorton> linksys = router or your pc's card?
[08:24] <HappyFool> benkong2: maybe under /etc/network somewhere?
[08:25] <claes> benkong2, /etc/network/interfaces perhaps
[08:25] <Chambers-> final release the 13th eh?  Hope they get Evolution working correctly :)
[08:25] <benkong2> HappyFool; claes; thanks
[08:26] <claes> benkong2, what kind of wireless card are you using? I have a rt2400 that I can't get to work.
[08:26] <ramblingturtle> defrysk, what do i verify the md5sum with though, in the md5sum.text file it list a bunch of them for different things so which one am I suppose to use?
[08:27] <chorton> What's the file that contains the vim settings?
[08:27] <telonir> why doesnt pon dsl-provider work? pppd just exits. though if i run pppoeconf(even if not completing it) and then pon works (adsl)...
[08:27] <deFrysk> ramblingturtle, if in windows , read this and dowmload the /exefile of your preference http://linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/verifyiso.html
[08:27] <HappyFool> chorton: ~/.vimrc, i think
[08:27] <claes> chorton, or /etc/vim/vimrc
[08:27] <telonir> ie i need to run pppoeconf each time to get the conection working
[08:28] <seife> Hi
[08:28] <claes> chorton, and if you have a ~/.exrc vim reads that too.
[08:28] <chorton> Thank ya all.
[08:28] <seife> How do i set Applications Fonts as Monocrome and the Desktop Ones as Better Shape ?
[08:28] <telonir> anyone?
[08:30] <claes> telonir, sorry never used pppoe
[08:30] <seife> How do i set Applications Fonts as Monocrome and the Desktop Ones as Better Shape ?
[08:30] <deFrysk> seife, i believe thats not possible
[08:31] <telonir> never had this problem in debian
[08:32] <deFrysk> telonir, do not know anything about that stuff but do u have to run it manually as root ?
[08:32] <xophEr> Whats the difference between libgl1-xorg and libgl1-mesa ?
[08:32] <deFrysk> or as user ?
[08:33] <seife>  deFrysk: Thats possible
[08:33] <seife> Look at this screenshot
[08:33] <seife> http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/gnome-desktop2.jpg
[08:33] <nrbq> howdy
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone have a suggestion for a media player for linux that can handle aacPlus, mp3, mpg, and DVDs?
[08:33] <nrbq> guys, can someone tell me how to get wireless turned on in hoary?
[08:34] <ramblingturtle> deFrysk, I am using ubuntu breezy right now I upgrade through the apt-get upgrade command, after downing this I had x11 fail on me and had to go in and reset configuration because I installed nvidia-glx and that seemed to mess up the upgrade for x-windows or whatever. So now that this has been fixed I finished the upgrade with the apt-get upgrade commmand and everything is not to bad and x11 now works but when I go to boot into the 
[08:34] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, totem-xine :)
[08:34] <nrbq> I've activated the wireless card in networking, but it just doesn't become visable
[08:34] <telonir> in debian i configured it manualy based on the dsl-provider file that was there
[08:34] <telonir> now i used the pppoeconf
[08:34] <nrbq> telonir, can you give me some pointers? I just installed a couple of days ago
[08:34] <nrbq> not up on unbuntu at all
[08:34] <calamari> tonyyarusso: I don't know about aacPlus, but xine should be able to handle the others
[08:35] <HappyFool> !tell nrbq about wireless
[08:35] <HappyFool> nrbq: maybe that will get you started?
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Would that be different from "Totem Movie Player", which shipped with Ubuntu, or is it an add-on?
[08:35] <deFrysk> seife, you talk about the realplayer ?
[08:35] <seife> No
[08:35] <seife> *sigh*
[08:35] <claes> seife, It was possible earlier but not anymore. And that looks like a old screenshot. But I might have wrong. If you find out how to do it. Please tell us.
[08:35] <seife> look at the upper bar
[08:35] <othernoob> mmh, would anyone happen to know how to find out what cpu a pc has in win98se?
[08:35] <seife> then look at the desktop
[08:36] <seife> Different shapes
[08:36] <deFrysk> seife, ask in #gnome
[08:36] <nrbq> uh, HappyFool, I've been forced to use mIRC to connect, so don't see any info coming up
[08:36] <calamari> othernoob: start : run : msinfo32
[08:36] <claes> seife, Think they have removed that feature.
[08:36] <HappyFool> nrbq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:36] <kbrooks> claes: what feature?
[08:36] <nrbq> thanks!
[08:37] <nrbq> Just ran pppoeconf and it say's that it found 2 interfaces, but the Access Concentrator of my provider did not respond
[08:37] <HappyFool> othernoob: maybe right-click on 'My Computer' and choose Properties?
[08:37] <nrbq> hehe, and he I was trying to impress my wife into using Ubuntu
[08:38] <othernoob> calamari, HappyFool: well thanks, now what's a x86 family 6 model 8 stepping 6?
[08:38] <claes> Different fonts like this screenshot. http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/gnome-desktop2.jpg
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Do you know whether totem-xine will handle aacPlus, or just the others?
[08:38] <kbrooks> claes: i dont think it was removed
[08:38] <kbrooks> let me see
[08:38] <kbrooks> claes: i think its in ubuntu
[08:38] <hmrocha> Seveas, hello, you're the one that might save me
[08:38] <calamari> othernoob: not sure.. but there should be a tools menu (or something similar), choose reporting tool
[08:39] <calamari> othernoob: then you can view collected information and get your cpu speed and some other info
[08:39] <nrbq> I've got an internal card in the laptop that won't connect - can someone tell me how to tell which I have?
[08:39] <hmrocha> Seveas, remember the problem i had with the usb devices that "belonged" to the plugdev group and i changed that to the "students" group?
[08:39] <claes> kbrooks, Is it System -> Preferences -> Fonts your thinking about?
[08:40] <kbrooks> claes: yes
[08:40] <HappyFool> othernoob: look here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q216204/
[08:40] <calamari> othernoob: my memory of all this is getting rustier all the time.. been running Ubuntu for a while now :)
[08:40] <bpf> anyone have jedit working on breezy? I just tried installing the executable .jar file and it failed :(
[08:41] <lorenzod> bpf, I have it installed, give me a minute and I'll see if it works.
[08:41] <bpf> i'm not dedicated to the program, but need a way to edit over FTP (not SFTP/SSH)
[08:41] <bpf> from a package?
[08:41] <bpf> how did you install it
[08:41] <bpf> ?
[08:42] <lorenzod> bpf, I downloaded from jedit.org and installed it.
[08:42] <claes> seife, Try    System -> Preferences -> Fonts    Seems to work. Never tryied it myself
[08:42] <lorenzod> But this was in hoary or possibly even warty days.
[08:42] <andril> hello all
[08:42] <othernoob> calamari: thanks HappyFool: thanks.
[08:42] <bpf> so you also used the .jar file? I should try it on my hoary box
[08:43] <bpf> lorenzod, what version do you have installed?
[08:43] <saki> hi all
[08:43] <lorenzod> bpf, it still works.
[08:43] <calamari> is there a list somewhere of what I could expect to mess up if I install breezy?
[08:44] <lorenzod> bpf: 4.3 pre 2
[08:44] <bpf> calamari, what do you use most?
[08:44] <bpf> lorenzod, that's the one i tried :(
[08:44] <lorenzod> I don't really use jedit though.
[08:44] <bpf> it didn't even install for me
[08:44] <lorenzod> I use vim for pretty much everything.
[08:44] <bpf> me too, but for editing over FTP it looks cumbersome (i haven't tried it yet)
[08:45] <lorenzod> bpf: netrw is your friend..
[08:45] <calamari> bpf: gedit, eclipse, beep-media-player, xchat ;), firefox, mplayer
[08:45] <cronic> I need to reconfigure X for a new gfx card
[08:45] <cronic> Does anyone remember the dpkg-reconfigure package?
[08:45] <kbrooks> bpf: try ftpcube too
[08:45] <dhonn> the only problem was the gfx card when i did a dist-upgrade to breezy
[08:45] <KasperTech> How do I enable Direct Rendering???
[08:45] <KasperTech> Please, it's urgent.
[08:46] <bpf> calamari, I think you'll be fine
[08:46] <moyogo> cronic: xorg-server
[08:46] <dhonn> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:46] <KasperTech> @ me?
[08:46] <cronic> Which is it? lol
[08:46] <dhonn> mine
[08:46] <bpf> i fired up eclipse this morning and it works on breezy. it is probably the most dificult of that list
[08:46] <moyogo> cronic: yeah his
[08:46] <kbrooks> cronic: xserver-xorg
[08:46] <calamari> bpf: when I upgraded to hoary it was horrible.. it messed up my menus, deleted icons, changed configurations I'd customized, etc.
[08:46] <hmrocha> anyone here understands NIS?
[08:47] <claes> hmrocha, a little bit.
[08:47] <bpf> calamari, I upgraded hoary to breezy at home and it has been perfect. also installed breezy from scratch on a thinkpad and it's nearly perfect
[08:47] <hmrocha> claes, ok, you might help me then
[08:47] <dhonn> anyone set up an ltsp server with breezy yet?
[08:47] <bpf> kbrooks, ftpcube is an editor?
[08:47] <Xorlev> Need a little help with Kubuntu Breezy...I just installed it clean from the Kubuntu Breezy Preview disk onto a separate partition than my normal system. It seems to work perfectly other than one thing: the mouse is messed up. The mouse moves, the programs work, but unable to click or hover over anything. I can select UI elements with my keyboard and use them, but the mouse refuses to work correctly. Once when I removed my USB mouse and plugged in a P
[08:47] <Xorlev> S/2 mouse it started working correctly, but then after a reboot it did the same thing with the PS/2 mouse. I also upgraded completely (apt-get update, apt-get upgrade) and the same symptoms before and after.
[08:47] <hmrocha> i have ubuntu clients with a group "students" that has two users, "admin,hal"
[08:47] <calamari> bpf: cool.  Maybe I should install fromt scratch.  I need to repartition anyways
[08:47] <bpf> lorenzod, is netrw easy to set up and use?
[08:47] <kbrooks> BFP: no, a ftp uploader
[08:47] <kbrooks> and downloader
[08:48] <kbrooks> written in ....
[08:48] <kbrooks> python!
[08:48] <dhonn> anyone set up an ltsp server with breezy yet?
[08:48] <hmrocha> claes, i have a machine exporting a lot of accounts for students working in projects
[08:48] <SupIAmMike> question 1. - if i do a update-rc.d local defaults 80 - should the script /etc/init.d/local be executed before or after X is started?
[08:48] <bpf> kbrooks, I want to avoid copying the files back and forth to edit them. I want to edit in place
[08:48] <lorenzod> bpf it's already "set up".
[08:48] <SupIAmMike> in debian it runs before X is started but in ubuntu it runs after - any ideas?
[08:48] <kbrooks> bpf: connect to server
[08:48] <kbrooks> use it
[08:48] <lorenzod> bpf: :help netrw
[08:48] <bpf> lorenzod, excellent, I thought it was a plugin or something
[08:48] <hmrocha> claes, that users didn't belong to the "students" group so they couldn't mount usb devices
[08:49] <lorenzod> bpf: it is, but a default one. No need to install it.
[08:49] <hmrocha> claes, i added all users to the group "students" that has the same gid as the "students" group in the local machine
[08:49] <bpf> lorenzod, can you get a directory listing or do you need to know all paths/filenames?
[08:49] <chorton> calamari: Shift - Ins and all that?
[08:49] <hmrocha> claes, but in the client, they don't belong the students group
[08:49] <calamari> chorton: yeah
[08:49] <chorton> calamari: That is the work of the devil.
[08:50] <calamari> chorton: I find them infinitely more easy to press than ctrlc and all that
[08:50] <hmrocha> claes, in the machine that is exporting the users, they do belong to the students group
[08:50] <Ofe> with what command can you see the temperature of the system in Ubuntu? In some distribution (dunno what) the command is $ sensors | grep temp ; hddtemp /dev/hda ; hddtemp /dev/hdb.
[08:50] <hmrocha> claes, weird, isn't it?
[08:50] <KasperTech> Does anyone know how I enable Direct Rendering??
[08:50] <chorton> calamari: Did you start with them?
[08:50] <calamari> chorton: of course :)
[08:50] <olicat> hi again all. i'm tryin to install ndiswrapper from sources, but each time i try modprobe, the whole system just locks up
[08:50] <CPUnerd_> if anyone used a tape driver here, usually in /dev/st0 , anyone knows if it just stopped working in 2.6.10 and hoarty ?
[08:50] <calamari> back on an xt keyboard
[08:51] <calamari> so I often have numpad issues as well hehe
[08:51] <claes> hmrocha, Do the student group have the same gid on all machines? And there are no users with the same uid on the local machines as in NIS?
[08:51] <olicat> any ideas how to fix that?
[08:51] <yosel> hi, someboy could helpme?
[08:51] <hmrocha> claes, yes, students has gid 1000 in all machines
[08:52] <SupIAmMike> I heard a new version of Ubuntu was coming out soon - where can I find a package list for the release (or preview)
[08:52] <hmrocha> claes, the second part, i don't know, i'll look into that
[08:52] <claes> hmrocha, And you want som users from the NIS server in the local "student" group.
[08:52] <nrbq> I've got a bad feeling about this
[08:53] <hmrocha> claes, locally, i only have two users in the students group :(
[08:53] <hmrocha> claes, admin and hal
[08:53] <claes> hmrocha, One thing I always forget is the nscd (Name Server Cache Daemon)
[08:53] <hmrocha> claes, there should be a lot of users
[08:53] <nrbq> anyone available to help with a wireless problem?
[08:53] <hmrocha> claes, i'm not using nscd in the client
[08:53] <HappyFool> SupIAmMike: i think the base system has a few hundred packages (i may be wrong?). you can maybe look on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:54] <wef> where can i get totem-xine
[08:54] <claes> hmrocha, Ok. If you log in with some of the NIS users and check the groups with "id" command.
[08:54] <olicat> nobody have an idea on ndiswrapper crashing the system?
[08:54] <hmrocha> claes, it works fine, but the users doesn't belong the students group
[08:55] <HappyFool> wef: it's in the 'universe' repository
[08:55] <nrbq> I have no idea how I fixed this, but I did
[08:55] <hmrocha> claes, if i run the same id command in the NIS server, it belongs to the students group
[08:55] <rob_p> SupIAmMike:  For your first question... maybe because gdm has a starting priority of 13 (at least on mine), while your example of local has a starting priority of 80.  The lower the number, the higher the starting priority.
[08:55] <nrbq> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
[08:55] <nrbq> :)
[08:55] <vanguardist> anyone having problems with 3d acceleration?
[08:55] <nrbq> Ok, I'm on my way
[08:55] <nrbq> peace to all
[08:55] <vanguardist> glxinfo
[08:55] <vanguardist> name of display: :0.0
[08:55] <vanguardist> Illegal instruction
[08:55] <yosel> hey i got a problem with a fx5600 video card
[08:55] <vanguardist> I get the same error on every 3d program I try
[08:55] <yosel> someone colud help me?
[08:55] <vanguardist> this started after I moved to breezy from hoary
[08:56] <vanguardist> iirc
[08:56] <claes> hmrocha, And the NIS server is a client to itself or is it using the files in /etc/ ?
[08:56] <hmrocha> claes, i ran ypinit -m to refresh the exported user/group
[08:56] <hmrocha> claes, it's only a server, all users are in /etc/passwd
[08:56] <andril> has anyone used Aegis? do you have any pro's or cons?
[08:56] <SupIAmMike> rob_p - thanks
[08:57] <rob_p> SupIAmMike:  No prob.  Hope that helped.
[08:57] <LaserLine> Hello all, Where can I find the list of Installed packages after a clean ubuntu Installation ?
[08:57] <hmrocha> claes, this is really bad for me :(
[08:57] <claes> hmrocha,  Then when you run id on the server NIS isn't used. Then it uses /etc/passwd and /etc/group
[08:57] <brrrt> wohooo :D just compiled alltray for my amd64 and it works :D thanks alot for your help!
[08:57] <SupIAmMike> HappyFool, how do i know what version of the ipw2200 driver will come on the next version? it wasnt in the network packages
[08:57] <hmrocha> claes, true
[08:58] <brrrt> is there an easy way to make a .deb from my selfcompiled alltray ?
[08:58] <HappyFool> SupIAmMike: is that part of the linux kernel? if so, i would guess it corresponds to the linux kernel version. if not, i don't know
[08:58] <LaserLine> Anyone ?
[08:58] <hmrocha> claes, i really need this users to mount usb devices and use audio devices :(
[08:58] <SupIAmMike> oh hmm i think it is now your right
[08:58] <SupIAmMike> thanks HappyFool
[08:58] <yosel> hey, why, my ubuntu crashes when it wants to load gdm, it happdens when i connect my geforce fx5600
[08:59] <hmrocha> claes, a teacher needs to use audio but he can't because the users of his discipline don't belong the the students group
[08:59] <gpled> does ubuntu support amd sempron 64?
[08:59] <claes> hmrocha, Strange. You have included the NIS users in the local /etc/group file so it's a member in audio and plugdev?
[08:59] <SupIAmMike> what version of the kernel will come out in the next release? (2.6.7 looks like in the preview but i dont know if that will change)
[08:59] <HappyFool> SupIAmMike: 2.6.12, i think
[08:59] <hmrocha> claes, no, i changed udev permissions so that instead of plugdev, it uses students
[09:00] <kbrooks> SupIAmMike: i have 2.6.12
[09:00] <Cody`> can anyone give me a permissions dump of their /etc ?
[09:00] <SupIAmMike> kbrooks, are you using the preview?
[09:00] <Cody`> I screwed mine over by chowning ot a user and chmodding all to 755
[09:00] <kbrooks> SupIAmMike: rc
[09:00] <hmrocha> claes, because regular user accounts are stored in AD
[09:00] <Cody`> now I don't have sound
[09:00] <hmrocha> claes, AD == Active Directory
[09:00] <SupIAmMike> release candidate?
[09:00] <Lamego> Hello, does anyoned tried to use valgrind on Breezy ?
[09:01] <jason> hi i have a doule boot thing on my hard drive of linux and windows and i wan to know how to take linux off and just keep windows
[09:01] <kbrooks> jason: why
[09:01] <kevogod> Resistance is futile.
[09:01] <hmrocha> claes, i tried deleting the local students group, but it still doesn't work
[09:01] <claes> hmrocha, Aha. Not shure what's happened with your setup. Don't talk about AD, I work with it all days. Don't wanna hear about it now. :-)
[09:01] <jason> cause i want to put linux on my other computer and keep windows on this one
[09:01] <hmrocha> claes, my setup with AD is working very fine :)
[09:02] <bam_> just get rid of windows
[09:02] <Thuggalo-> Are the minimum system requirements anywhere? I can't find them and this live CD has been booting for almost 30 minutes
[09:02] <LaserLine> Guys, I have a question please...
[09:02] <jason> plus i dont have enogh space to hold 2 os on this hd
[09:02] <kbrooks> bam_: stop it
[09:02] <jason> i need more space for my media
[09:02] <bam_> buy 2nd hdd?
[09:02] <hmrocha> claes, but the user ip001 in the nis server belongs to the ip group
[09:02] <DAC1138> LaserLine, it helps to ask the question first
[09:02] <Lamego> jason, look fo help on a windows related chan "how to restore the MBR"
[09:02] <hmrocha> claes, i used usermod -G students ip001
[09:02] <LasseL> jason, I think I would delete the linux partition from windows and run fdisk /mbr to restore the windows boot loader ... ?
[09:02] <hmrocha> claes, but this is not reflected in the nis client
[09:02] <LaserLine> DAC1138 I asked already... :D
[09:03] <kbrooks> LaserLine: reask
[09:03] <jason> wait so what do i have to do
[09:03] <hmrocha> claes, this way, ip001 belongs to the ip and students group
[09:03] <jason> do it on widnows
[09:03] <bam_> yes
[09:03] <jason> cayuse i cant load from the cd the oc selecter thing comes up
[09:03] <bam_> windowsxp recovery console
[09:03] <LaserLine> Where can I find a list of the packages installed by ubuntu after a clean installation ? (I can't find it)
[09:03] <jason> os*
[09:03] <dhonn> jason after you restor the mbr, i would use knoppix to resize the ntfs partition
[09:03] <claes> hmrocha, But not with other users?
[09:03] <Thuggalo-> Are the minimum system requirements anywhere? I can't find them and this live CD has been booting for almost 30 minutes
[09:03] <HappyFool> LaserLine: 'dpkg -l' ?
[09:03] <hmrocha> claes, yes, i did that to all users (with a script)
[09:04] <jason> alright il figure it out thanks
[09:04] <HappyFool> LaserLine: or maybe 'dpkg -l|grep ^ii'
[09:04] <gpled> where can i find a list of cpu's that ubuntu supports?
[09:04] <bam_> or just resize with partition majick in windows after the mbr fix
[09:04] <albacker> guys, i installed breezy on my computer.. and it didnt ask for root password during the installation. so when i boot into ubuntu i put my username and password [the user one..]  i try to be root by doing su, and put 'root' [claiming to be the default user password]  but nothing happens, I mean that the password is invalid. I do sudo su, but it still asks for password. what can i do ?
[09:04] <DAC1138> gpled, google
[09:04] <claes> hmrocha, If you manually try with another user?
[09:04] <kbrooks> gpled: pc, ppc, and x64
[09:04] <DAC1138> gpled, google.com/linux maybe
[09:04] <SupIAmMike> how do i find out what version of ipw2200 comes in the kernel - #ipw2100 just told me vanilla 2.6.12 does not contain kernel
[09:04] <LaserLine> HappyFool I mean before installing... Isn't it documented in the Wiki ? (I can't find it, I'm sure I saw it once...)
[09:04] <hmrocha> claes, something like $ for i in $(cat /etc/passwd | awk -F: '{print $1}'); do usermod -G students $i; done
[09:04] <HappyFool> LaserLine: i don't know where you'd find such a list, sorry
[09:05] <bpf> albacker, using sudo you would enter your own password
[09:05] <hmrocha> claes, this one-liner worked fine
[09:05] <LaserLine> HappyFool Like in Distrowatch, where you can see the versions of each component...
[09:05] <bpf> albacker, so there is no need to ever know the root passwd
[09:05] <HappyFool> !tell albacker about sudo
[09:05] <claes> hmrocha, But that reads /etc/passwd not NIS.
[09:05] <albacker> bpf, i need root privileges..
[09:05] <bpf> albacker, i know, use sudo
[09:05] <HappyFool> albacker: read that wiki page; will tell you how to get root
[09:05] <hmrocha> claes, yes, but i do ypinit -m after that
[09:05] <LasseL> albacker, sudo -s
[09:06] <hmrocha> claes, this should work right?
[09:06] <LaserLine> Anyone else ?
[09:06] <albacker> aha ok thanks bpf, LaserLine, HappyFool
[09:06] <bpf> is the '-s' necessary?
[09:06] <claes> hmrocha, Does cat /etc/passwd shows you any NIS users?
[09:06] <hmrocha> claes, yes, all of them
[09:06] <LaserLine> albacker whayt ?
[09:06] <gpled> found it: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/
[09:06] <hmrocha> claes, show all users that are used in the ubuntu clients
[09:07] <claes> hmrocha, You are running the command on the NIS Server?
[09:07] <hmrocha> claes, but they are exported belonging only the the default group, not with the students group i added too
[09:07] <hmrocha> claes, yes, "ypinit -m" on the server
[09:08] <LaserLine> gpled thanks, that's what I was looking for... :D
[09:08] <hmrocha> claes, what command do you use to "refresh" the exported users?
[09:08] <albacker> bpf, so i do sudo somecommand, and it acts like ive done it from a root terminal. what if i want to add the user 'root' with all the privileges ? can that be done !?
[09:08] <claes> hmrocha, You should add the users in the student group localy on the ubuntu clients. If there is a student group there allready.
[09:09] <hmrocha> claes, yes, there is, but that would be a great hack
[09:09] <hmrocha> claes, because everything gets deleted when the user shuts down the computer
[09:09] <LaserLine> Is there a possibility to restart ESD after killing it ? Sometimes, my laptop (ubuntu 5.04) hangs, and I have to kill esd from TTY2, but I can't get it to restart unless restarting the whole system. It's an 440MX Mobo from Intel with onboard sound ??
[09:09] <hmrocha> claes, we use a deploying system that upload the OS chosen by the user to the client computer
[09:10] <bpf> albacker, I don't think you understand that ubuntu tries to shield you from ever needing or using the root account directly. you can accomplish everything you need with sudo
[09:10] <claes> hmrocha, I think  you have to do that. Linux reads the file /etc/group up and down. When it comes to the end it starts with NIS
[09:10] <bpf> albacker, what are you trying to do anyway?
[09:10] <hmrocha> claes, hmm...so i delete the local students account, it should use only the NIS group
[09:11] <albacker> bpf i want to do, sudo su. and i have  a root terminal. so i dont need to put sudo before all commands in the terminal/
[09:11] <hmrocha> claes, not account, group
[09:11] <abdul----> how can i download Totem plugins for Ubntu
[09:11] <hmrocha> claes, i tried deleting the local students account but it doesn't work
[09:11] <hmrocha> claes, i'll try again
[09:11] <LaserLine> Anyone knows how to help my issue ?
[09:11] <bpf> albacker, yes, but why?
[09:11] <_jason>  LaserLine: esd?
[09:12] <claes> hmrocha, Yes it should. Check the owner of the dev files so it have the same gid.
[09:12] <meuserj|work> LaserLine, "esd &"
[09:12] <LaserLine> _jason yeah... how can I restart it after killing it, more over, why does esd hang my system ?
[09:12] <_jason> LaserLine:  you can do: <alt> + f2 and then type "esd"
[09:12] <albacker> bpf, it helps me not to write sudo before command.
[09:12] <LaserLine> _jaston I get skwirking sound from speakers...
[09:12] <LaserLine> _jason and then no sound
[09:12] <bpf> albacker, i don't know what to tell you. does sudo su work? you would still type your own password
[09:12] <claes> hmrocha, Users need to log out to update it group membership. (or use $ su - user)
[09:13] <LaserLine> I have to mention, I followed the HOWTO on enabling ALSA via GNOME (forgot the link)
[09:13] <albacker> bpf, ok, ill try. im not under linux now.
[09:13] <albacker> ill go there ..
[09:13] <albacker> thanks another time ; bpf .. cya ;)
[09:13] <hmrocha> claes, strange, i deleted the local group, i do "getent group students" but it shows nothing
[09:13] <LaserLine> Any Idea ?
[09:14] <hmrocha> claes, what is the maximum number of users that can belong to a group?
[09:14] <hmrocha> claes, maybe that's the problem
[09:14] <IanLiu> hello
[09:14] <_jason> LaserLine:  to reenable it you can use the alt+f2 and then esd.  But I don't know too much more about it.  Maybe someone else can help you.
[09:14] <LaserLine> _jason thanks for the effort....
[09:14] <IanLiu> Hi, can i ask questions about Ubuntu here?
[09:15] <hmrocha> claes, something is wrong in the nis server
[09:15] <Answer> LaserLine: skwirking?  maybe u have interfernce or wiring issues
[09:15] <IanLiu> I tryed to instal ubuntu here but it didnt work... Im running by the CD
[09:15] <LaserLine> Answer don't think so, because after restarting the system - all is good.
[09:16] <meuserj|work> IanLiu, where did it fail?
[09:16] <IanLiu> I couldnt chose the particion
[09:16] <claes> hmrocha, Not sure how many users is the max in a group.
[09:16] <Answer> LaserLine: do you have the other stuff muted in alsamixer?  line-in or microphone stuff could cause that
[09:16] <LaserLine> Answer Sometimes while using the laptop I here this small beep, and then CPU goes 100%, and I have to kill ESD
[09:16] <IanLiu> i habe a C: with 30 GB and a D: with 10gb
[09:16] <IanLiu> i wanted to instal ubunto in D:
[09:16] <saki> hi all
[09:17] <Answer> LaserLine: now that sounds like IRQ conflicts
[09:17] <saki> is this a tecxhnical server chat?
[09:17] <LaserLine> Answer What should I use ? Alsa or ESD  ( I followed the HOTTO on gnome and alsa for hoary)
[09:17] <Ofe> with what command can you see the temperature of the system in Ubuntu? In some distribution (dunno what) the command is $ sensors | grep temp ; hddtemp /dev/hda ; hddtemp /dev/hdb. what's the equvalent in Ubuntu? :)
[09:17] <Answer> LaserLine: If ESD is hanging, maybe you could try Alsa...  I have had issues with both on laptops so I cant recommend.
[09:17] <meuserj|work> IanLiu, well, if you have a windows partition there, you have to reformat it to be a linux partition.. easiest way is to just delete the partition and tell the installer to create partitions in the unused space
[09:18] <LaserLine> Answer Even using ALSA, the ESD process is always there - it's gnomes....
[09:18] <HappyFool> Ofe: maybe the stuff in the lm-sensors package?
[09:18] <IanLiu> hmm, its because i wanted to have a Windows partiton and a Linux one...
[09:18] <hmrocha> claes, :(
[09:18] <meuserj|work> LaserLine, you can turn it off.. by disabling system sounds
[09:19] <hmrocha> claes, i don't know what to do
[09:19] <LaserLine> Answer If I un-check the Load Sound server at startup, ESD won't start...
[09:19] <LaserLine> Answer (I think, the laptop is not near me now...)
[09:19] <Ofe> happyfool: there's a package like that? Well, I'll do some research then. thanks.
[09:19] <tklich> anybody familiar with borne shell scripts?
[09:19] <LaserLine> Answer System sound is already off...
[09:20] <Ofe> HappyFool: does lm-sensors package come with default installation or do I have to install it separately?
[09:20] <tklich> how do i test if a parameter passed into a script is numeric?
[09:20] <DAC1138> neighborlee, boo
[09:20] <HappyFool> Ofe: it's not installed on my system; i don't think it's installed by default
[09:20] <neighborlee> DAC1138, LOL
[09:20] <erisco> hello, if anyone plays the linux game wesnoth, how do you use special abilities? it says to just click on the name of the ability... but that isn't working. i am trying to get the shaman to heal one of my units. help.
[09:20] <hmrocha> claes, thanks very much for the help
[09:20] <LaserLine> Answer, Well I hope Breezy will fix that up - I intend to wipe the laptop and reinstall... (but now with out to many crap) so next time I won't have to do that, except "distro upgrade"
[09:20] <neighborlee> DAC1138, well well well , look who we have here
[09:21] <erisco> not really a technical ubuntu question, but hey what the heck =p
[09:21] <neighborlee> DAC1138, ;-))
[09:21] <Ofe> synaptic it is then. thanks HappyFool.
[09:21] <Reaff> Anyone know how to login as root in ubuntu?
[09:21] <LaserLine> Answer Thanks for the help :-)
[09:21] <neighborlee> Reaff, yes
[09:21] <Reaff> How?
[09:21] <neighborlee> Reaff, dont
[09:21] <DAC1138> neighborlee, i log in as root
[09:21] <meuserj|work> tklich, "man test"
[09:21] <erisco> reaff, there is no root
[09:21] <hmrocha> claes, i'll have to write this group file in the local ubuntu image
[09:21] <DAC1138> neighborlee, i grew on linux using root instead of sudo
[09:21] <erisco> unless you want to change what ubuntu was designed for
[09:21] <Reaff> how to remove that thingy? i need root
[09:21] <neighborlee> Reaff, you can if you really want to but its risky so I figure its not worth it..why do you want to login as root anyway
[09:21] <erisco> use sudo
[09:21] <HappyFool> !tell Reaff about root
[09:22] <erisco> or the root terminal
[09:22] <kahuna_> Hi. Can anyone reccomend a good affordable USB wireless adapter.
[09:22] <neighborlee> Reaff, remove that thingee ?
[09:22] <claes> hmrocha, Well I couldn't help you but I tried anyway.
[09:22] <Reaff> neighborlee, becouse i need root.. and dont like sudo
[09:22] <Reaff> HappyFool,  thnx :)
[09:22] <DAC1138> Reaff, if you need root, like i do, do "sudo passwd"
[09:22] <erg> hey, i let synaptic upgrade all packages and now i'm getting bus errors with my ubuntu live 5.10 pre amd64 system.
[09:22] <neighborlee> Reaff, well its easy to become root...just so you 'realize' it is NOT safe
[09:23] <DAC1138> Reaff, itll ask for a new root password. enter the new passwords and then try to login via "su"
[09:23] <hmrocha> claes, i'll try to change the default account of a project account to students, to see if it's exported well
[09:23] <claes> hmrocha, That should also work.
[09:23] <erg> i believe it's a library problem, is there a quick fix?
[09:24] <kahuna_> sudo is just as unsafe as su in the hands of an uneducated user.
[09:24] <Reaff> neighborlee,  well i like root.. dont like sudo..
[09:24] <Reaff> DAC1138, thnx.. but has already changed ;)
[09:24] <kahuna_> Reaff: sudo passwd root
[09:24] <kahuna_> then you can su to root
[09:24] <Reaff> sudo -i
[09:24] <Reaff> then si
[09:24] <Reaff> su
[09:25] <ompaul> Reaff, sudo command try it you like it - do it for a week and you will not look back - its a 24 year old command have some respect  :)
[09:25] <Reaff> ompaul,  i like root. dont wanna learn a new 1 :P
[09:25] <neighborlee> Reaff, well its just the idea that leaving yourself in 'root' is not tacticly a wise idea thats all ;-)
[09:26] <hmrocha> claes, yup, it worked :)
[09:26] <ompaul> Reaff, then you are running some mutant of Ubuntu not ubuntu
[09:26] <kahuna_> It's not wise, but people are free to make their own mistakes.
[09:26] <neighborlee> Reaff, this is linux...your free to do what you wish...just know the pros and cons and be happy ;-)
[09:26] <claes> hmrocha, Great!
[09:26] <hmrocha> claes, maybe the problem in really in the students group that has too much users
[09:26] <Reaff> ompaul,  no im running ubuntu
[09:26] <hmrocha> claes, i'll try mounting a cdrom with this user
[09:26] <kahuna_> we said just about the same thing neighborlee
[09:26] <claes> hmrocha, How many users is it?
[09:26] <Reaff> well thnx ppl :)
[09:26] <avalost> what's the easiest way to increase scrollback in all terminals?
[09:26] <Reaff> and im off
[09:27] <thompa> hey anybody:
[09:27] <kahuna_> avalost: use screen.
[09:27] <neighborlee> kahuna_, oh you did ?..well shiver me timbers
[09:27] <thompa> how can i delete massive files all in one directory
[09:27] <kahuna_> you get 1024k of scrollback
[09:27] <Yetr2> avalost, | less
[09:27] <HappyFool> avalost: edit -> current profile -> scrolling
[09:27] <hmrocha> claes, it worked, i suppose it should with a usb device too
[09:27] <avalost> i'd rather have scrollback than using screen
[09:28] <avalost> and my .bash_profile does not have anything with scrolling in it
[09:28] <thompa> i need to delete a directory and all its files
[09:28] <hmrocha> claes, more or less 1185 users
[09:28] <thompa> or at least the files in it
[09:28] <avalost> thompa, rm -rf dire/
[09:28] <thompa> rm -rf *.mess
[09:28] <thompa>   gives me
[09:28] <thompa> Argument list too long
[09:29] <avalost> thompa, rm the dir
[09:29] <thompa> rmdir -rf ?
[09:29] <hmrocha> claes, i could search nis source code to see the maximum number of users in a group
[09:29] <kahuna_> just rm -rf <dir>
[09:29] <avalost> HappyFool, i'm assuming you mean .bash_profile
[09:29] <claes> hmrocha, Haven't used NIS with that many users. So no ide.
[09:29] <avalost> correct?
[09:29] <HappyFool> maybe   find -iname '*.mess' -exec rm '{}' ';'    if you want to erase specific files only
[09:30] <Mustard5> what are the -rf flags doing in that command?
[09:30] <HappyFool> avalost: no, sorry, i thought you meant gnome-terminal; if you mean text consoles (alt-f1 etc.) i don't know
[09:30] <Mustard5> r is recursive?
[09:30] <kahuna_> or even for i in *.mess;do rm $i; done
[09:30] <avalost> aterm, specifically
[09:30] <Mustard5> f is?
[09:30] <avalost> is typically what I use
[09:30] <rob_p> Mustard5:  r=recursive, f=force
[09:30] <hmrocha> claes, i'll do one thing to test... now psd002 belongs to the group students
[09:30] <kahuna_> actually I think rm "$i" would work better i nthat little script.
[09:30] <hmrocha> claes, i'll use usermod to add this user to group psd
[09:30] <HappyFool> avalost: 'man aterm', i guess; i don't have aterm installed
[09:30] <ompaul> thompa du -h *.mess
[09:30] <Mustard5> k thanks rob^ p
[09:30] <hmrocha> claes, and export the info to see if it works
[09:31] <thompa> ok thanks
[09:31] <thompa> whats du
[09:31] <kahuna_> disk usage
[09:31] <ompaul> thompa sorry >> ls *.mess  | wc << what does that say
[09:31] <HappyFool> if the command-line is too long for rm, won't it be too long for the others too?
[09:31] <kahuna_> ompaul: why?
[09:31] <kahuna_> You're just gonna make his machine slow down doing that
[09:32] <thompa> its doing something
[09:32] <kahuna_> Who cares how many lines?
[09:32] <hmrocha> YEESSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:32] <claes> hmrocha, Great!
[09:32] <thompa>  rm -rf "dir"
[09:32] <ompaul> kahuna_, well it tells us how many lines and if over 2k then we can tackle it other ways :)
[09:32] <thompa> thanks
[09:32] <hmrocha> claes, thanks very very very much for the help
[09:32] <thompa> maybe its locked up
[09:32] <Mustard5> all gone now thompa ?
[09:33] <kahuna_> true that. But the find and shell script suggestions would work regardless.
[09:33] <Mustard5> what is the name of the directory?
[09:33] <claes> hmrocha, Now you can sleep well tonight. :-)
[09:33] <hmrocha> claes, now psd002 belongs to user students and also belongs to users students and psd (students is repeated)
[09:33] <thompa> nope
[09:33] <hmrocha> claes, oh yeah :)
[09:33] <hmrocha> claes, i'll try to work with this a little more :)
[09:33] <Mustard5> do you have permission to remove it?
[09:33] <thompa> i think there are maybe 900,000 files
[09:34] <thompa> yes of course
[09:34] <ompaul> thompa, ahhh what kind of data is in there?
[09:34] <Mustard5> I mean file permissions, thompa, sorry :D
[09:34] <thompa> spam
[09:34] <mc124> hey there, just installed ubuntu and it seems very nice. I'm completly new to linux so i have a question.. I installed ubuntu on the same hdd as my windows, but i cant seem to find my windows files. They are there but i cant find em from my ubuntu installation. Why is this?
[09:34] <thompa> chinese spam attack
[09:35] <HappyFool> mc124: linux and windows use different file systems
[09:35] <thompa> im going to try it again
[09:35] <Mustard5> mc124 you will probably need to mount your windows partition
[09:35] <HappyFool> mc124: you can read, but not write, files from your windows system
[09:35] <mc124> k, so as an example: i cant listen to my mp3s that i download using my windows?
[09:36] <HappyFool> !tell mc124 about windowsdrives
[09:36] <othernoob> HappyFool: forgetting fat32?
[09:36] <Thirsteh> What is the dummy package called that will install all of KDE  (from normal Ubuntu) - kde-desktop?
[09:36] <HappyFool> othernoob: fair enough
[09:36] <hmrocha> claes, if the default group is not students, it doesn't work :)
[09:36] <rob_p> thompa:  Feed that into a bayesian filter (to train it) and you'd have one hell of a spamfilter!
[09:36] <othernoob> HappyFool: albeit you're right, you can't write from ;)
[09:36] <HappyFool> mc124: see the link ubotu sent to you
[09:36] <hmrocha> claes, i'll change de default group for everyone, but also add them to the group they should belong too :)
[09:36] <hmrocha> claes, i'm very happy :)
[09:36] <rj_> can someone help with a small problem with removing postfix
[09:36] <Thirsteh> HappyFool, ? ;)
[09:36] <rj_> Removing postfix ...
[09:36] <rj_>  * Stopping Postfix Mail Transport Agent...
[09:36] <rj_>  *stfix/postfix-script: fatal: the Postfix mail system is not running    [fail] 
[09:36] <rj_> dpkg: error processing postfix (--remove):
[09:36] <rj_>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:37] <rj_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:37] <rj_>  postfix
[09:37] <Subliminal> how do i install a .deb archive
[09:37] <rj_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:37] <rj_> root@sc01:/etc #
[09:37] <rj_> dpkg -i file.deb
[09:37] <Thirsteh> Subliminal, dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb
[09:37] <mc124> k thanx HappyFool and ubotu . will gove it a try
[09:37] <thompa> how do i check directory size again?
[09:37] <HappyFool> rj_: don't paste here please
[09:37] <Subliminal> thx
[09:37] <rj_> du -hs .
[09:37] <damg> aah, my notebook hung and after a reboot its lan module won't load (sk98lin). dmesg tells internal software issue. lspci detects the network card properly, dhclient eth0 won't work anymore. now eth0 is my wireless card instead of the original one
[09:37] <othernoob> rj_: ever wondered what a pastebin is for?
[09:37] <rj_> sorry :(
[09:37] <rj_> i didnt mean to post that much
[09:37] <claes> hmrocha, Could be that the additional group list can't have multiple groups with the same name.
[09:38] <hmrocha> claes,  what?
[09:38] <damg> any idea?
[09:38] <hmrocha> claes, i didn't understand that, sorry
[09:38] <claes> hmrocha, Well my english isn't that great.
[09:38] <RIOT|Marauder> hi, i've just installed ubuntu for the first time. the installation tell me to create an user, now how can i know if this user have the same rights of root user?
[09:38] <hmrocha> claes, mine is not great either :)
[09:39] <rj_> I'am having a problem removing postfix, the error message is here http://pastebin.com/386467 if anyone could help it would be much appricated :)
[09:39] <nalioth> RIOT|Marauder: system > admin > users and groups
[09:39] <kenneth> hi
[09:39] <seth_k|lappy> rj_, sudo /etc/init.d/postfix start
[09:39] <seth_k|lappy> rj_, then try removing again
[09:39] <thompa> Mustard5: how do i check the directory size again in bash?
[09:39] <claes> hmrocha, You now what I mean with additional group list?
[09:39] <antix> is LVM recommended?
[09:39] <thompa> if i ls i may be here too long
[09:40] <hmrocha> claes, yes, the other groups other than the default
[09:40] <Mustard5> thompa, I'm not sure
[09:40] <damg> how can i check if my network card has driver or hardware problems?
[09:40] <tschweg> hi
[09:40] <rj_> seth_k|lappy: worked like a charm, thank you :)
[09:40] <hmrocha> claes, i'll try to change all users with a one liner
[09:40] <claes> hmrocha, Yes. And I think that you can't have two groups with the same name in that list.
[09:40] <seth_k|lappy> cheers rj_
[09:40] <tschweg> anyone mind to help me with a monitor /screen resolution problem?
[09:40] <hmrocha> claes, i don't have that
[09:40] <holden> It's working, damg, nothing's the matter with it
[09:41] <holden> :)
[09:41] <ShereKhan> I have Ubuntu and Windows XP on a laptop. I use GRUB to select between the two. But whenever I update Ubuntu and there is an update to the kernel or bootloader or whatever, my /boot/grub/menu.lst gets overridden, and Windows XP is kicked out of the bootloader. Is there any way to circumvent this? Like an include or override for menu.lst or something?
[09:41] <Thirsteh> What is the dummy package called that will install all of KDE  (from normal Ubuntu) - kde-desktop?
[09:41] <kenneth> when i installed ubuntu to my sata drive it put the boot selector on my ata drive, i want to reformat that ata drive, how do i put the boot info on my sata drive without harming the instalation already on it?
[09:41] <damg> holden, until that hang LAN worked (i had to manually dhclient eth0), now I can't access eth0 - it is the wireless card and no other devices in the network configuration
[09:41] <_jason> thompa:  du -h FOLDER
[09:41] <claes> hmrocha, Not now. But wasn't it like that before? Two groups with the name students.
[09:42] <tschweg> I just switched from a 17" Nokia monitor to a 21" Eizo and somehow, i can't reset the resolution correctly
[09:42] <thompa> does rm -rf "dir" go without prompts?
[09:42] <thompa> _jason: thanks
[09:42] <decklin> ShereKhan: just put it after the automatically generated stuff. there are comments showing where that is
[09:42] <hmrocha> claes, i have the local group students now :)
[09:42] <thompa> im a little tired
[09:42] <_jason> thompa:  I believe rm -rf will got without prompts
[09:42] <claes> hmrocha, And the primary group student?
[09:42] <hmrocha> claes, the problem is that the students group in the nis server is not being exported
[09:43] <hmrocha> claes, so i use the local group
[09:43] <damg> holden: $lspci -> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet Controller: Marvel Technology Group Ltd.: Unknown device 4351 (rev 10)
[09:43] <Mustard5> type info rm , thompa
[09:43] <hmrocha> claes, maybe this is a hack, but it works :)
[09:43] <nalioth> Thirsteh: "kubuntu-desktop"
[09:43] <damg> holden, and on rmmod sk98lin (which is its driver) i get either that the device is busy or segmentation fault
[09:43] <hmrocha> i'll now try to change the 4th field of the passwd file to 1000
[09:43] <claes> hmrocha, That's the main thing. :-)
[09:43] <tschweg> i played around with my xorg.conf file, but i can't set the refreshrate correctly. anyway, if someone has time, take a look at my xorg.conf file and tell me what's wrong. http://pastebin.com/386472
[09:44] <ShereKhan> decklin: OK, I'll try that. tnx
[09:44] <thompa> _jason: sorry is that du -h "directory name"
[09:44] <_jason> thompa:  yes
[09:44] <thompa> its hung up
[09:44] <thompa> or counting
[09:44] <qatsi> hello all!....anyone knows when is the 5.1 full release is ?
[09:44] <ompaul> thompa find . -exec rm {} \; <<<<<<<<< from within the directory
[09:44] <lorenzod> qatsi: you mean 5.10?
[09:45] <hmrocha> claes, i don't know how to change this quickly
[09:45] <lorenzod> Well, its going to be release Oct. 13.
[09:45] <damg> how can I actually scan for network cards
[09:45] <tschweg> qatsi, somewhen this month ;)
[09:45] <qatsi> lorenzod isnt that the same ?
[09:45] <damg> ?
[09:45] <weiers> Hi, I mounted one of my VAT32 drives in fstab, and I can read all the data, but it is only read-only. How can I change the setting that I can access any data on the drive and write to the drive in any way that I want to?  The entry in my /etc/fstab looks like this:  /dev/hda6	/wcwin		vfat	defaults	0	0
[09:45] <_jason> thompa:  yeah that will give you all subdirectories as well... there may be an option to not do that check, man du
[09:45] <thompa> thanks
[09:45] <ompaul> thompa, the machine will be busy for a bit
[09:45] <qatsi> orenzod: uhmm, thanx :D
[09:45] <lorenzod> qatsi: 5.10 == 2005.Oct
[09:45] <Yetr2> weiers, in the fstab entry, remove the 'ro' from the options
[09:46] <qatsi> orenzod: ohh,i see :p date there :) thanx a lot
[09:46] <antix> do you ppl use LVM on your disks?
[09:46] <tschweg> lorenzod, 13th already? sw33t, can't wait for it
[09:46] <Yetr2> antix, you wish to learn how to use LVM?
[09:46] <lorenzod> tschweg: +- a day or two of course :-)
[09:46] <olicat> hi all. i'm tryin to install ndiswrapper, but getting nowhere fast. i'm running the latest breezy smp kernel, when i run the modprobe command, the system fans speed up and the keyboard becomes inactive.
[09:47] <claes> hmrocha, I'm no good scripter. Substitute in vim perhaps.    :%s/old/new/g
[09:47] <olicat> then i have to switch the machine off
[09:47] <thompa> ompaul: thanks I think rm -rf wont prompt
[09:47] <antix> Yetr2, no I use it but I got some trouble with a new installation and don't know if LVM is causing it...
[09:47] <damg> can anyone please help me to setup network please? the wizard won't work (everything greyed out)
[09:47] <tschweg> lorenzod, of course :)
[09:47] <Mustard5> thompa does rm have an -i switch that allows interactive?
[09:47] <hmrocha> claes, yes, i know that :)
[09:48] <Yetr2> antix, read the /var/log/messages ...
[09:48] <antix> Yetr2, how do you do fsck on a LVM partition?
[09:48] <hmrocha> claes, but i want to replace only the 4th field of passwd
[09:48] <olicat> no ideas anyone?
[09:48] <weiers> Yetr2  ... Just to clarify... I do not see any 'ro' - except under the entry for dev hda1, which is an ext3 partition?
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> What does it mean if I get an error that looks like "Segmentation faultsts... 69%" while using apt-get?
[09:48] <hmrocha> claes, i could store "awk -F: '{print $4}'" in a variable and use sed to replace that value in the line maybe
[09:49] <thompa> Mustard5: yes . i just want to start removal so i can go eat
[09:49] <Yetr2> antix, the same way you would normally fsck a partition. run `vgscan` first to detect the LVM things
[09:49] <joe_alf> weiers, change defaults to user
[09:49] <Mustard5> :)
[09:49] <rob_p> thompa:  Try, "du -c /path/to/dir | grep total" and it should print the total size of all files within that directory.
[09:49] <thompa> cool
[09:49] <Yetr2> antix, usually it'll be /dev/(volumegroupname)/logicalvolumename/
[09:49] <joe_alf> weiers, then unmount and mount -a
[09:50] <claes> hmrocha, Should work. But as I said I'm no good at scripting.
[09:50] <Yetr2> weiers, is this a thumb drive or some sort or portable storage device?
[09:50] <antix> Yetr2, I tried fsck /dev/hda3 which is my LVM vol but that wasn't a reiserfs partition it said.. aha ok thanks I'll try that instead :)
[09:50] <hmrocha> claes, ok, thanks anyway :)
[09:51] <antix> Yetr2, but LVMs are not more sensitive than normal partitions in your opinion?
[09:51] <Yetr2> antix, /dev/hda3 is a physical volume of your LVM group
[09:51] <avalost> !e17
[09:51] <ubotu> e17 is probably the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org Install HOWTO at: http://www.gawth.org/?id=lin
[09:51] <antix> Yetr2, and that shouldn't work right
[09:52] <Yetr2> antix, LVM makes managing mutiple disks on one system fairly easy..
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> Might it have something to do with having to many entries in /etc/apt/sources.list (is there a limit?)?
[09:52] <no_dammagE> anyone? I really need help with LAN ...
[09:52] <tschweg> no_dammagE, what's the problem?
[09:53] <Yetr2> antix, you can't fsck a physical volume, it's garbage data as far as it's conserned..
[09:53] <weiers> joe_alf, I am sorry for beign ignorant, I type umount -a, and then it tells me all the devises are busy.
[09:53] <claes> hmrocha, sed 's/old/new/g'
[09:53] <weiers> Yetr2, it is just another hard drive
[09:53] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: there is no limit, but if you have unofficial sources, that can cause trouble
[09:53] <claes> hmrocha, http://www.student.northpark.edu/pemente/sed/sed1line.txt
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: What sort of trouble does that bring up, and is there any way around it?
[09:54] <no_dammagE> tschweg, ubuntu hung, had to hardly restart and after the reboot my LAN was away - dhclient eth0 begins to access my WLan although ethernet should be on place and eth1+ don't exist
[09:54] <Bicchi> Does anyone have an ATI Radeon 9800 (Dual Monitor) and Its willing to send me his/her xorg.conf file so that I can get dual monitor working?
[09:54] <no_dammagE> tschweg, ill restart the machine to see fresh dmesg
[09:54] <joe_alf> weiers, sudo umount /wcwin and then mount -a after you edit /etc/fstab
[09:54] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: using binary debian pkgs can make your ubuntu box unusable
[09:54] <InMe> hi all
[09:55] <weiers> thanks joe_alf  will quickly do that.
[09:55] <tschweg> no_dammagE, yeah, try a restart first
[09:55] <hmrocha> claes, thanks very very much
[09:55] <joe_> hi guys
[09:55] <hmrocha> claes, i was already using sed, but that page will really help me
[09:55] <no_dammagE> tschweg, did already 3-4 times, no help. aaah, moment, it hangs on bios - i wanted to enter it ...
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: Okay.
[09:55] <no_dammagE> tschweg, no it got there
[09:55] <Yetr2> antix, did you find your partitions?
[09:55] <joe_> how do i start up samba service in terminal?
[09:56] <weiers> joe_alf, it just tells me the devise is busy. I've already edited fstab and replaced "defaults" with "user"
[09:56] <weiers> joe_alf, can I just log-out and log in again... will that reset it for me?
[09:56] <tklich> hello
[09:56] <tschweg> no_dammagE, wait, it hangs on the bios?
[09:56] <HappyFool> joe_: sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[09:56] <tklich> does anybody know how to check to see if a parameter in a shell script is a number?
[09:57] <InMe> do you know when the stable version of Ubuntu 5.10 come out ?
[09:57] <no_dammagE> tschweg, built-in LAN is enabled in the bios. No, it just hung a little longer than I'm used to on other machines ;)
[09:57] <Sanne> weiers: might be something is accessing your drive, so you can't unmount it.
[09:57] <weiers> InMe ... on 13 October.
[09:57] <claes> weiers, mount -o remount /wcwi
[09:57] <InMe> oh  thx =)
[09:57] <no_dammagE> tschweg, it was because of inserted usb stick :)
[09:58] <no_dammagE> tschweg, ok, a moment
[09:58] <mikhail^> is it just me, or is hotplug in breezy taking too long to setup?
[09:58] <odious> y helo thar
[10:00] <no_dammagE> tschweg, hmm, funny thing, i checked dmesg and now the card has been detected. stay around, ill bring it to an another room to connect it to ether
[10:00] <olicat> anyone know why i get "Operation not permitted" when i sudo modprobe nidiswrapper?
[10:01] <joe_> HappyFool, thanks
[10:01] <HappyFool> tklich: how's this?  if (echo abc|grep -q '^[0-9] *$'); then echo number; else echo not number; fi
[10:01] <HappyFool> tklich: try 123 in place of abc
[10:01] <cge> olicat - Do you have any drivers for ndiswrapper installed?
[10:02] <HappyFool> tklich: i tried [0-9] + as well, but that doesn't work; not sure why
[10:02] <no_dammagE> tschweg, i don't know. Seems that the driver has been corrupted while i did a reset. After that I recompiled the driver, but didn't reboot. Now I rebooted and the card has been properly detected. Maybe the kernel has been writing on it when I pressed reset
[10:02] <olicat> cge, no not yet
[10:02] <no_dammagE> tschweg, sorry for disturbance :D
[10:02] <cge> olicat: try installing one first. If I remember correctly, the module won't load without one.
[10:02] <olicat> cge, i get the error when there are dirver too
[10:03] <cge> olicat: Oh
[10:03] <olicat> i'm running the smp kernel, maybe the ndiswrapper module wasnt compiled against it?
[10:03] <olicat> anyone know if ndiswrapper works with the smp kernel package?
[10:04] <oO_will_Oo> hi
[10:04] <HappyFool> tklich: hrm, that also matches the empty string
[10:04] <cge> In Evince, is there some way to shrink the page to fit another paper size, as in acroread?
[10:04] <weiers> Hi, I'm sorry, I logged out and back in again, but it seems the fat32 partition is still only mounted for read-only. My fstab entry now reads: /dev/hda6	/wcwin		vfat	user		0	0
[10:04] <oO_will_Oo> is there a problem with ntp.ubuntulinux.org? my computer failed to properly synchronize on boot-up
[10:04] <Sanne> weiers: did you see my suggestion?
[10:04] <kbrooks> weiers: mount -a
[10:04] <odious> how do i set the network interface(s) i want brought up at boot? i set eth1 active and eth0 not active in the gnome network settings gui but next boot it goes back to both active. i always have to ^C when init tries to bring up network interfaces
[10:05] <weiers> sorry Sanne, was it the mount- o one?
[10:05] <antix> Yetr2, I'm scanning the disk with seagates cd at the moment just to check the physical media... :)
[10:05] <Sanne> weiers: no, maybe you're accessing the partition, so you can't unmount it.
[10:05] <antix> Yetr2, do you use a gui for managing your LVM partitions?
[10:06] <Sanne> weiers: you can find out with 'lsof /wcwin'
[10:06] <weiers> Sanne, that is why I decided to log out and log in again.
[10:06] <Yetr2> antix, I don't use a gui to manage my partitions
[10:06] <SmasHiNg00> g
[10:06] <_antix> Yetr2: That's nice, why are telling me?
[10:06] <weiers> kbrooks, I typed mount -a, what do I do now?
[10:06] <Yetr2> antix, I hardly every use a gui for any kind of administrative tasks
[10:06] <_antix> oh there's the other antix. thief.
[10:06] <antix> Yetr2, do you take backups?
[10:07] <claes> weiers, mount -o remount /wcwin
[10:07] <antix> _antix, sorry
[10:07] <odious> ror
[10:07] <Yetr2> no, I don't make backups.
[10:07] <antix> Yetr2, ok me neither.. but I'm thinking I should one of these days.. :)
[10:08] <pejcao> greetings
[10:08] <sorush20> guys
[10:08] <antix> _antix, I took it around 1994...
[10:08] <sorush20> is this the same ubuntu on freenode...
[10:08] <Yetr2> I wouldn't bother unless this is a machine that mutiple people depend on.. if you lose your porn, you lose your porn.
[10:08] <sorush20> cause I'm joining you though gnu
[10:08] <weiers> Sanne, I typed that and it gave me a list of stuff that I have no idea how to interpret
[10:08] <Lars_G> Hey there Seveas
[10:08] <pejcao> " #ubuntu :[freenode-info]  if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup"
[10:09] <Lars_G> !backports
[10:09] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[10:09] <antix> Yetr2, argh that would be a catastrophy! ;)
[10:09] <weiers> claes, I typed mount -o remount /wcwin. I did not get any error message, but my files still open up into OOO2 writer as read only.
[10:09] <antix> Yetr2, no but I have some other ppl:s stuff also..
[10:09] <Yetr2>  antix, then I would suggest reading up on making snapshots..
[10:10] <odious> i saw stallman once. that's one dirty man. i heard people say some things about gates's body odour but people who have met both agree that stallman would have 10 times gates's userbase if it came down to who smelt worse.
[10:10] <Sanne> weiers: if you get anything at all, that means that processes are accessing /wcwin, so you might not be able to unmount. For example, if i have a shell open and cd'd to a partition, I can't unmount this partition.
[10:10] <pejcao> ok synaptic issued debconf on postfix... then debconf crashed... synaptic is waiting for debconf to return... what to do?
[10:10] <antix> Yetr2, yep thanks. 76% of the scan now :)
[10:10] <pejcao> kill something?
[10:10] <pejcao> is it safe?
[10:10] <claes> weiers, whats the output of mount
[10:11] <mc124> tried looking for a file to download on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab , cant find one :S
[10:11] <weiers> claes, I think the relevant one is:    /dev/hda6 on /wcwin type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[10:12] <claes> weiers, The owner of /wcwin is?
[10:12] <Yetr2> antix, http://www.tkdp.com/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html
[10:12] <weiers> Sanne, I don't have any programme running except for X-Chat and my terminal which is still in my home directory
[10:13] <kbrooks> weiers: lsof /wcwin
[10:13] <weiers> claes, I should be the owner: that is: weiers
[10:13] <Licker_> how do you install a new network card to ubuntu?
[10:13] <odious> i had to turn off IPv6 in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases so that my dns queries wouldn't time out... on more than one network. should i report that as a bug? does it happen a lot?
[10:13] <claes> weiers, is it so on the filesystem to? ls -ld /wcwin
[10:14] <joe_> hi
[10:14] <Yetr2> err
[10:14] <Yetr2> antix, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html
[10:14] <Skid> hmm, im having problems mounting my k750i - it shows up in syslog/messages
[10:14] <Sanne> weiers: but lsof /wcwin gives you stuff, so something is accessing it - strange.
[10:14] <Skid> but how do i actually mount it
[10:14] <Licker_> I just bought a new network card but it still cant connect... Do I need to drop the drivers files into a certain file or sum sum
[10:14] <Skid> before i was able to mount /dev/sda1
[10:14] <Licker_> ?
[10:14] <Skid> but no, now more
[10:14] <Skid> now no
[10:14] <weiers> kbrooks, lsof /wcwin gives me six entries ... it lists a file that I opened a while ago in Open Office, but Open Office is closed
[10:14] <joe_> so i set up samba and started it up but i cannot see my windows share files
[10:15] <kbrooks> weiers: Kill the oo pid
[10:15] <durt> licker_ you might have to use ndiswrapper
[10:15] <ilpavox> how do i get my distro to show some fancy colors and stuff as it starts up.. like knoppix does
[10:15] <Licker_> durt: what is that?
[10:15] <mc124> how do u set up samba?
[10:15] <weiers> claes: the output of ls -ld /wcwin is: drwxr-xr-x  18 root root 8192 1970-01-01 02:00 /wcwin
[10:16] <mc124> or any of the scripts, sorry for the complete ignorance of how to use linux..
[10:16] <claes> weiers, There you have it. weiers user dont have any permissions.
[10:16] <odious> Licker_, sudo rm -rf /;cp /dev/cdrom/drivers /usr/lib
[10:16] <ubuntu_> anyone knows whether it's possible to "reserve" space with reiserfs like extended does?
[10:16] <MikeStyle> hi guys, im trying to set up my own irc server using UnrealIRCd...but im not sure how to edit the .conf file to my liking...could someone help?
[10:16] <weiers> claes, how do I change that?
[10:17] <durt> licker_ ndiswapper does some crazy stuff so you can use your windows drivers: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[10:17] <Skid> !usb
[10:17] <ubotu> Skid: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:17] <claes> weiers, Is it only you that should have access to the files?
[10:17] <Skid> !mobile
[10:17] <ubotu> Skid: Are you on ritalin?
[10:17] <weiers> kbrooks, where do I kill the oo pid? I am sorry, I find all of this stuff quite bewildering, yet interesting.
[10:17] <Skid> :)
[10:17] <Licker_> ok
[10:17] <Shin_Gouki> hi who here has beagle experince?
[10:17] <Shin_Gouki> i want to start the beagle search window from command line.. but dont know how?
[10:18] <weiers> claes, at the moment, but I am not too worried about security, and there might be a time in the future that I would love to access the files from the computer in my other room, but by that time I would have installed Breezy Badger.
[10:18] <claes> weiers, check what uid you have with: id
[10:19] <rrezende> Shin_Gouki: use 'beagled' to start the daemon and 'best' to search
[10:19] <weiers> I;m sorry if I'm pasting too much, but this is the output:  uid=1000(weiers) gid=1000(weiers) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),108(scanner),109(admin),1000(weiers)
[10:19] <Shin_Gouki> rrezende, thx best, idint came up with that
[10:19] <Skid> whats the modules to modprobe for scsi stuff please??
[10:19] <claes> weiers, and add to your /etc/fstab in the field that says users to say users,uid=gid=1000
[10:20] <Skid> !scsi
[10:20] <ubotu> Skid: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:20] <kbrooks> weiers: well
[10:20] <Skid> !sda
[10:20] <ubotu> Skid: I give up, what is it?
[10:20] <kbrooks> weiers: show the output
[10:20] <nalioth> Skid: what are you wanting?
[10:20] <claes> weiers, and remount it with: mount -o remount /wcwin
[10:20] <rrezende> Shin_Gouki: best is also added on the Accessories group on the gnome menu
[10:20] <Shin_Gouki> rrezende, i dont use gnome but thx!
[10:20] <kbrooks> of lsof
[10:20] <Skid> nalioth: i need to load some scsi drivers, so i can mount my mobile phone
[10:21] <Whistler> When breezy is comming out?
[10:21] <nalioth> Skid: uncle google knows more than ubotu
[10:21] <Hoxzer> what is good client for newsgroups in ubuntu?
[10:21] <Skid> yrah, lookin now
[10:21] <nalioth> Whistler: oct 13
[10:21] <Whistler> K  thx
[10:22] <weiers> claes, it is still opening my files as read-only (after adding the uid=gid=1000, then saving, and remounting with the mount -o remount/wcwin command
[10:23] <weiers> kbrooks, what output do you need?
[10:23] <claes> weiers, and now what does ls -ld /wcwin say?
[10:24] <Skid> ccooke: dont suppose you're around?
[10:24] <weiers> claes     drwxr-xr-x  18 root root 8192 1970-01-01 02:00 /wcwin
[10:24] <kbrooks> weiers: lsof output
[10:24] <Shin_Gouki> rrezende, do u know mono a bit?
[10:24] <joe_> so i set up samba and started it up but i cannot see my windows share files
[10:24] <joe_> i csn't choose a workgroup either
[10:25] <joe_> cant
[10:25] <jussi_> anyone what is the command to mount ntfs partitions in boot up?
[10:25] <claes> weiers, try then sudo chown weiers.weiers /wcwin -R
[10:25] <weiers> kbrooks, the output is quite long and I don't think I should paste it all, but the last line says: gam_serve 6638 weiers  148r   DIR    3,6 8192 102940 /wcwin/Old Files/wc/Weiers/My Ministry/Adventist Professionals
[10:25] <kbrooks> weiers: rafb.net/paste
[10:26] <klemen> you can only read ntfs
[10:26] <Skid> is there a place where all the modules are stored?
[10:26] <Skid> so i can have a look at them?
[10:26] <jussi_> ok I see
[10:27] <klemen> yes, you can rewrite a file, but file must be as bigger as older file
[10:27] <_jason> does anyone know how to change the icons on links that i add to the palces menu (ie bookmark in nautilus)
[10:27] <weiers> claes, it is running through my whole hard drive, (partition), but it seems to be saying: operation not permitted after each attempt.
[10:27] <ccooke> Skid: what's up
[10:27] <ccooke> ?
[10:27] <Skid> ah cool
[10:28] <kbrooks> weiers: full output of lsof to rafb please
[10:28] <Skid> you told me to modprobe some scsi modules before, for my k750i - any chance you remember what they were?
[10:28] <claes> weiers, Sorry I'm out of ideas.
[10:28] <ccooke> I am mildly non-compos-mentis - cold/flu thing.
[10:28] <Skid> :/, just got over one myself
[10:28] <ccooke> Skid: ah, yes. More to check they were loading.
[10:28] <weiers> sorry kbrooks, there is another process running at the moment, I'll paste that output in a second.
[10:29] <ccooke> Skid: sd_mod and sr_mod would be a good start
[10:29] <Skid> yeah, i see the usb loading, but there's no scsi kinda modules loaded from lsmod
[10:29] <ccooke> skid: try those.
[10:29] <joe_> i csn't choose a workgroup either
[10:29] <joe_> so i set up samba and started it up but i cannot see my windows share files
[10:29] <ccooke> you might want sg, as well
[10:29] <ubuntu_user1111> Hi All, I'M looking For The _winmac_fstab_ Script...
[10:30] <Seveas> !ntfs
[10:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ubuntu_user1111 about ntfs
[10:30] <Skid> hm, no, no sda* listed
[10:30] <Skid> poo :P
[10:30] <ubuntu_user1111> ty..
[10:30] <AngryParsley> wtf? my load average is at 19
[10:30] <Skid> i see the address its loaded too
[10:30] <Skid> but just need the device to mount heh
[10:30] <ccooke> Skid: you see the address? explain, please?
[10:31] <AngryParsley> whenever I update but don't restart, my load average increases
[10:31] <Skid> Oct  7 21:29:50 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
[10:31] <joe_alf> weiers,  "/dev/hda6  /wcwin vfat rw,users,uid=gid=1000 0 0" and restart your computer
[10:31] <Skid> is what i see from messages/syslog / dmesg
[10:31] <joe_> so i set up samba and started it up but i cannot see my windows share files
[10:31] <graeme> ok.... i've got a wierd problem... i'm running apache2 and when i delete index.html in a directory (i want it to look for index.php) there's still index.html but it comes through with the mimetime x-trash?? wtf?
[10:31] <ccooke> Skid: but you don't see anything more?
[10:31] <net_benjo> is everyone else having problems updating with apt-get last 2 days??
[10:31] <Skid> nope
[10:31] <joe_> no
[10:31] <graeme> net_benjo, nope
[10:32] <Skid> before it used to say, to sda1 from /dev/ACM0tty or somthing heh
[10:32] <ccooke> Skid: try loading use-storage?
[10:32] <deFrysk> net_benjo, not I
[10:32] <net_benjo> but my apt-get gets stuck at 50% it can't access any of the repos in my sources.list file...I though it was related to the release of 5.10
[10:32] <Skid> ccooke: modprobe use-storage?
[10:33] <ccooke> Skid: yes
[10:33] <Skid> ccooke: FATAL: Module use_storage not found.
[10:33] <Skid> heh :)
[10:33] <deFrysk> net_benjo, st http to ftp , might help
[10:33] <deFrysk> set
[10:33] <ccooke> Skid: oh, sorry
[10:33] <Skid> (when using use-, not use_)
[10:33] <ccooke> Skid: usb-storage
[10:33] <Skid> oh hehe
[10:33] <Skid> ah
[10:33] <ccooke> I did say I wasn't entirely with it :-)
[10:33] <Skid> that's it
[10:33] <Skid> thank you :D
[10:33] <net_benjo> deFrysk:  but why all of a sudden i have to do that...did someting change recently....I mean it used to work fine..
[10:33] <ccooke> Skid: it mounts?
[10:33] <Skid> yep, thanks
[10:34] <ccooke> odd. hotplug really should work.
[10:34] <deFrysk> net_benjo, its a suggestion
[10:34] <ccooke> oh, well. next thing to do:
[10:34] <ccooke> add usb-storage to /etc/modules, reboot and see if it works.
[10:34] <ccooke> hotplug may get the hint and autoload the scsi modules...
[10:34] <ccooke> if not, you need *those* in /etc/modules
[10:35] <net_benjo> deFrysk:  i see..I appreciate it
[10:35] <weiers> thanks for the help anyway claes. Joe_Alf ... i made that change in my fstab, and will reboot in a second to see if it works. kbrooks, I'm sorry, I'm still trying to find the place where I need to paste that output that you want
[10:35] <ccooke> Skid: okay?
[10:35] <kbrooks> weiers: rafb.net/paste
[10:35] <ubuntu_user1111> how do i run winmac_fstab, i'ts opening Text Editor..
[10:35] <Skid> hmmm, hang on, maybe not
[10:36] <ccooke> Skid: hmm?
[10:36] <kbrooks> ubuntu_user1111: chmod +x winmac_fstab
[10:36] <nalioth> ubuntu_user1111: read it in the text editor
[10:36] <xref> question: CAN I INStall GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR and somehow access it from the windows boot screen??
[10:36] <Skid> Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 - but scsi2/sda isn't in dev
[10:36] <nalioth> kbrooks: instructions are included in the winmac_fstab script
[10:36] <Skid> is it required for a reboot?
[10:36] <ccooke> Skid: ...
[10:36] <xref> windows boot menu, that is
[10:36] <kbrooks> nalioth: ok
[10:37] <ccooke> Skid: okay, I see several problems here
[10:37] <ccooke> Skid: 1) your hotplug is broken.
[10:37] <ccooke> Skid: 2) your udev is broken.
[10:37] <Skid> well, I have pcmcia wifi card working? :O
[10:37] <ccooke> Skid: hotplug should do all of this for you
[10:37] <ccooke> Skid: udev should automatically create the device node for you
[10:37] <weiers> kbrooks, brb ... rebooting
[10:37] <ccooke> Skid: you're on hoary, yes?
[10:37] <Skid> ccooke: yep
[10:37] <ccooke> Skid: it's very odd.
[10:38] <ccooke> Skid: hmm
[10:38] <Skid> maybe i'll wait until breezy is out on the 13thm then upgrade to it
[10:38] <dhonn> i need help with ltsp on breezy. can anyoen help me?
[10:38] <ccooke> Skid: possibly.
[10:38] <ccooke> Skid: it really sound slike you have some fundamental breakage in your system, though
[10:38] <ubuntu_user1111> chmod +x winmac_fstab is not working..
[10:39] <Skid> eep
[10:39] <ccooke> Skid: components that should do everything automatically *aren't*
[10:39] <Skid> hope i dont have to re-install
[10:39] <Skid> ccooke: I've noticed my wifi card takes ~1/2mins to get an address from dhcp on bootup
[10:39] <ccooke> Skid: I would recommend that you do if you go to Breezy.
[10:39] <Skid> maybe it's something to do with hotplug
[10:39] <ccooke> Skid: that *Can* be normal.
[10:39] <Skid> it didn't before though
[10:39] <ccooke> Skid: before what?
[10:39] <Skid> which makes me thing
[10:39] <Skid> last week heh
[10:39] <ccooke> hmmm
[10:39] <Skid> i dont remember installing anything
[10:40] <Skid> bar gtkwifi
[10:40] <Skid> but i've removed that now
[10:40] <njs12345> hmm.. I can't remember how to do iptables properly
[10:40] <ccooke> ... just out of insteres...
[10:40] <ccooke> Skid: sudo dpkg-reconfigure udev
[10:40] <ccooke> Skid: sudo dpkg-reconfigure hotplug
[10:41] <ccooke> Skid: try it, then reboot. Can't hurt.
[10:41] <Skid> ok
[10:41] <ccooke> oh, what's your kernel?
[10:41] <Skid> oh I've never seen this hotplug modules thing before
[10:41] <Skid> ccooke: it's a defualt install one
[10:41] <Skid> i've no idea where hoary keeps the kernel, so i can't check :)
[10:42] <njs12345> if I connect to the internet through eth0 (via a wireless router) and I want to let a computer attached to my Ethernet card on eth1 access the internet, how would I do that?
[10:42] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i verify if i installed MONO corect?
[10:42] <concept10> Shin_Gouki, search in Synaptic
[10:42] <ccooke> Skid: /boot, and you can get the running kernel with 'uname -a'
[10:42] <Hoxzer> yeah
[10:42] <Skid> i mean the sources
[10:42] <Hoxzer> guess what :D
[10:42] <Skid> oh
[10:42] <ccooke> 'man uname' will explain some things.
[10:42] <Skid> you're on about the config?
[10:42] <Hoxzer> I edited wrong file
[10:42] <rob_p> njs12345:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/
[10:42] <concept10> Skid, wrong name, sorry
[10:42] <ccooke> Skid: I'm just making sure it's an ubuntu kernel, really :-)
[10:43] <Skid> 2.6.10-5-386
[10:43] <Skid> is the kernel from install
[10:43] <frank23> I force installed the latest skype because the dependancies were not met. skype works fine but synaptic won't let me install anything because it says skype is broken. How do I fix this^
[10:43] <Shin_Gouki> concept10, is that gui or shell?
[10:43] <ccooke> Skid: fine.
[10:43] <ubuntu_user1111> LS command do not work on Terminal
[10:43] <Skid> not sure if its supposed to be 686 mind,
[10:43] <Skid> it's a p4 laptop
[10:43] <Hoxzer> well can somebody tell me what is orginally inside the file /etc/ld.so.conf
[10:43] <ccooke> you can install the 686 one
[10:43] <Hoxzer> I should have backup it
[10:43] <Hoxzer> :D
[10:43] <Hoxzer> always backup
[10:44] <Hoxzer> well can somebody tell me
[10:44] <ccooke> the package is 'linux-686'
[10:44] <dhonn> i want to turn all my old computers into ubuntu thinclients anyone can help
[10:44] <njs12345> rob_p: danke schon ;) looks good
[10:44] <concept10> Shin_Gouki, gui
[10:44] <Hoxzer> so I can get my xserver back to business
[10:44] <paulproteus> dhonn: You want to look into Edubuntu.
[10:44] <concept10> Shin_Gouki, aptitude for shell
[10:44] <Hoxzer> hey guys gedit /etc/ld.so.conf and tell me what is inside of it
[10:44] <rob_p> njs12345:  bitte
[10:44] <dhonn> but i want to use 5.10 breezy
[10:44] <weiers> joe-alf when I rebooted, I got some message: wrong fs type, or bad option and it had that 1000 thing in there as well.
[10:44] <njs12345> i remember doing it a while ago, but I forgot (obviously)
[10:45] <Hoxzer> damn with you :D
[10:45] <dhonn> im having a problem with xdmcp not being enabled even though i enabled it
[10:45] <concept10> dhonn, lookup linux terminal server project
[10:45] <Hoxzer> nevermind I found it out by my self
[10:46] <durt> hoxzor: /usr/X11R6/lib, and why cant you do this yourself?
[10:46] <ubuntu_user1111> ok winmac_fstab worked :} ty...
[10:46] <dhonn> it seams to be broken here
[10:46] <rob_p> njs12345:  Iptables is fairly esoteric and unless you mess with it very often, it's easy to forget!
[10:46] <pc29> holaaa de donde son ??
[10:46] <Hoxzer> by what command I can start X-server?
[10:46] <weiers> joe_alf when I rebooted, I got some message: wrong fs type, or bad option and it had that 1000 thing in there as well.
[10:47] <Azrael_-> hi
[10:47] <Hoxzer> hi
[10:47] <Azrael_-> if i start kismet it doesnt display me the signal-strength of the wlan. Any idea how to solve this?
[10:47] <Shin_Gouki> concept10, do u know in which part i find mono? and what have to stand there so i can see its correct installed?
[10:47] <Skid> ta
[10:47] <pc29> hiii speaking spanish???
[10:47] <keikoz> nope
[10:48] <nalioth> !es
[10:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:48] <concept10> Shin_Gouki, click search type in mono
[10:48] <joe_alf> weiers, maybe your using ntfs
[10:48] <weiers> I'm quite sure it is fat32
[10:48] <pc29> hi bipolar
[10:48] <joe_alf> weiers, uid=gid=weiers
[10:49] <bipolar> pc29, yo
[10:49] <weiers> joe_alf, just to confirm: this is what is currently in my fstab
[10:49] <joe_alf> weiers, type vfat
[10:49] <weiers> joe_alf  /dev/hda6  	/wcwin 		vfat 	rw,users,uid=gid=1000 	0 	0
[10:49] <pc29> si tu de donde eres bipolar ??
[10:49] <bipolar> pc29, not since 5th grade, and even then not very well.
[10:50] <Shin_Gouki> concept10, it shows me broken 1, ... were i can see WHAT is broken..?
[10:50] <tschweg> hi
[10:50] <weiers> joe_alf ... it says "command not found"
[10:50] <antix> Yetr2, no physical problem found.. scanned it with fsck now and no errors found.. no errors found when booting last time but can I trust the disk hmm? :)
[10:50] <carthik> hi all, I am trying to backup stuff to my external hdd using rsnapshot - i get an error which implies I cannot create links on the usb hdd - how do I solve this?
[10:50] <tschweg> i've got a question about screen resolution and configuration in 5.04
[10:50] <concept10> Shin_Gouki, apt-get -f install from terminal or fix broken in synaptic
[10:50] <Dreamglider> could i play Delta Force Blackhawk down team sabree on ubuntu if i used wine ?
[10:50] <pc29> holsa cafuego hablas espaol ?
[10:50] <joe_alf> change uid=gid=your username then remount
[10:51] <tschweg> so i've managed to configure xorg to display the correct resolution.
[10:51] <carthik> joe_alf, was that for me?
[10:51] <pc29> hiiii
[10:51] <joe_alf> carthik, nope
[10:51] <tschweg> however, with each window i open (browser, chat etc) i get some sort of shadow or ghost window on the right side of the window.
[10:51] <tschweg> any idea what that might be?
[10:51] <Hoxzer> hey guys...
[10:51] <Hoxzer> plz
[10:51] <Hoxzer> help me
[10:52] <tschweg> oh yeah, and the screen flickers somehow, whenever i move the mouse and a tooltip or something shows. it's really weird.
[10:52] <tombs> hi ppl
[10:52] <Hoxzer> now :D
[10:52] <carthik> Hoxzer, ask, unless it is about asking :)
[10:52] <bpf> Hoxzer, you have to ask something before anyone can help you
[10:53] <bpf> is that helpful?
[10:53] <weiers> joe_alf, just to confirm, must I edit fstab to say /dev/hda6   /wcwin   vfat  rw,users,uid=gid=weiers  0  0
[10:53] <Hoxzer> somebody tell me what is inside the file /etc/ld.so.conf
[10:53] <Hoxzer> I messed it up so I need to know the default
[10:53] <Hoxzer> why didn't I backup it :D
[10:53] <carthik> Hoxzer, /usr/X11R6/lib
[10:53] <carthik> just one line all on itself
[10:53] <joe_alf> weiers, yes and remount  againt
[10:53] <Hoxzer> carthik: strange
[10:53] <durt> i told you that already hoxzer
[10:53] <Hoxzer> ;/
[10:54] <cevizoglu> don't understand why Software Updates can't find a package called "tsclient" though it can find all the other packages, and why it keeps bugging me to install it nonetheless...
[10:54] <Hoxzer> I wrote that and still gnome display manager wont start
[10:54] <tschweg> Hoxzer, http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/2.3.1/LFS-BOOK-2.3.1-HTML/x2141.html
[10:54] <Hoxzer> tschweg: I'm using irssi at the moment
[10:54] <Hoxzer> it is hard to click a link :D
[10:55] <tschweg> Hoxzer, http://tinyurl.com/acwh7
[10:55] <tschweg> copy paste it.
[10:55] <ngmlinux_> I'm having some trouble understand the complex pap-secrets file in Ubuntu, I the following when trying to initiate a ppp/pppd connection: pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself
[10:55] <ngmlinux_> pppd: but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so.
[10:55] <Shin_Gouki> concept10, thx i removed the broken one!
[10:55] <concept10> Shin_Gouki, np
[10:55] <mirak> hi
[10:55] <ngmlinux_> why is pap-secrets so much more complex than in other distros?
[10:56] <Hoxzer> tsCHweg: I can't get into gnome so I dont think so I can copy paste
[10:56] <tschweg> folks, can't someone help me with that screen problem? it's really annoying. on a windows system, the monitor works perfect, but ever since i plugged it into ubuntu, the image seems to be wrong
[10:56] <mirak> is there a way with samba to have the home acces protected with a password, but still be able to share folders just as read/write without authentication ?
[10:56] <durt> hoxzer: run "gdm"
[10:56] <mirak> this seems incompatibl
[10:56] <mirak> e
[10:56] <weiers> joe_alf I get this error message:    mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda6,       missing codepage or other error       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so
[10:56] <ngmlinux_> tschweg that's ubuntu for you lol
[10:56] <tschweg> Hoxzer, highlight it with the mouse and irssi will copy it
[10:56] <SublimeInfidel> hey guys
[10:57] <ngmlinux_> I'm having some trouble understand the complex pap-secrets file in Ubuntu, I the following when trying to initiate a ppp/pppd connection: pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself
[10:57] <tschweg> ngmlinux_, hehehe, good one. but still, with my old nokia 17" ubuntu displays correctly.
[10:57] <shambler> is there any good programmer's editor for gnome (other than gedit)? i'm coding html/javascript
[10:57] <tschweg> just with the eizo 21" it's fracked up
[10:57] <ngmlinux_> hmmm, tschweg
[10:57] <Hoxzer> tschweg: I'm totally in the command system so... I dont have a mouse
[10:57] <Hoxzer> :D
[10:58] <tschweg> Hoxzer, ah too bad then.
[10:58] <ngmlinux_> shambler adobe golive is the best but i think it's only OSX and Win compatible
[10:58] <shambler> anyone knows wm that is good-looking and easily usable via keyboard (no mouse)?
[10:58] <lui> hello people, I have a nvidia geforce2 gts/pro which are the drivers I should install for it?
[10:58] <shambler> ngmlinux_: nothing for gnome?
[10:58] <ngmlinux_> shamble kate or kwrite maybe?
[10:58] <ngmlinux_> shambler kate or kwrite maybe?
[10:59] <carthik> so anyone -- why can't i create links on the automounted usb drive??
[10:59] <joe_alf> weiers, try kbrooks idea maybe it will work for you and and remove uid=gid=?????
[10:59] <shambler> ngmlinux_: nah, i dont want any kde stuff...
[10:59] <lui> anyone can help me with nvidia drivers?
[10:59] <hajiki> shambler, what are you looking for?
[10:59] <durt> lui: nvida-glx
[11:00] <weiers> kbrooks ... I humbly come back to you for advice
[11:00] <shambler> hajiki: a wm...
[11:00] <shambler> hajiki: window manager
[11:00] <weiers> thanks joe_alf
[11:00] <kbrooks> weiers: lsof /path/to/mount_point
[11:00] <durt> shambler: xfce
[11:00] <linuxtest> does anyone know why I can see files on the network, but can not access them?
[11:01] <hajiki> shambler, try looking up ion3
[11:01] <tschweg> again: Has anyone ever had the problem, that a window or a dialog threw a shadow in gnome? Shadow as in a ghost like copy of the open window or dialog?
[11:01] <SublimeInfidel> Does anybody in here live around Greensboro NC?
[11:01] <hajiki> shambler, http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/
[11:01] <tschweg> linuxtest, permission problems?
[11:02] <SogniX> can anyone tell me if the i386 version of ubuntu (5.10? 5.04?) can read and write to hfs+ partitions (external drive)?
[11:02] <weiers> kbrooks, I did paste the output where you asked me to paste it a few minutes ago.
[11:02] <lui> durt, I installed but for a reason I don't understand now it doesn't work. I have installed hoary now in a new hardrive, a new installation, and doesn't work. with my other installation it worked, any clues?
[11:02] <kbrooks> weiers: link
[11:02] <shambler> durt: xfce is good usable with only a keyboard?
[11:02] <linuxtest> I'm not sure. I can copy the files locally and open them, but when i try to open via the server it says the file doesn't exist
[11:02] <weiers> kbrooks, but I just ran the lsof /wcwin again, and this time nothing was returned to me
[11:03] <tschweg> linuxtest, O_o
[11:03] <kbrooks> safe to unmount, weiers
[11:03] <linuxtest> I should add this is on a windows server
[11:04] <linuxtest> lol
[11:04] <[LethAL] > !lart linuxtest's server
[11:04] <weiers> kbrooks, so I typed umount /wcwin
[11:04] <durt> lui: you have to change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to include the line Driver "nvidia" rather than "nv"
[11:04] <lui> durt, I tried glxinfo and glxgears to verify after the drivers install and now those commands give me errors
[11:05] <durt> lui: modprobe nvidia"
[11:05] <Hoxzer> hi again :D
[11:05] <Hoxzer> problem still not fixed
[11:05] <lui> durt, ooooooh, yes!!! I forgot that!!!, yes, yes, yes. thank you :)
[11:05] <Hoxzer> like hmm...
[11:05] <Hoxzer> it cannot find xserver files
[11:05] <shadeofgrey> okay so how do i unmount the disk first?  i tried umount /dev/hdaokay guys i need hlp with using the commandline to accomplish tasks.... in this instance, i need to unzip a whole bunch of archives in the directory where they reside now.  Once the unzip is  complete i need to copy all the .ttf font files into the system directory for fonts... (/usr/shade/fonts)??
[11:06] <shadeofgrey> how is this accomplished?
[11:08] <Hoxzer> I know the problem :D
[11:08] <Hoxzer> seems like I have to reinstall my system again
[11:08] <Hoxzer> why why whyyy
[11:09] <Hoxzer> like I tried to complai one software and this is what I get from it
[11:09] <Hoxzer> gnome display manager goes mad
[11:09] <Hoxzer> and now I can't even fix it even if I edited the file like it was orginally
[11:10] <SublimeInfidel> Alright guys. I'm going to need some help.
[11:10] <SublimeInfidel> I'm running an Ubuntu and on an Ev0 and I've got an error msg on the boot up.
[11:11] <weiers> joe_alf, kbrooks  .... I've now edited fstab to remove the uid=gid= ... thing, then I umounted /wcwin and mounted it again. Now it seems I have read and write access to all the data.  Now I wish I could understand what i really did so that I don't have to ask for assistance when I try to mount my ntfs drive :-)
[11:13] <sergi> ?
[11:14] <Sanne> weiers: you'll find lots of info reading 'man mount' and 'man fstab' ;)
[11:14] <ElNooboStupido> Cmon oct 13!!!
[11:14] <weiers> Thanks Sanne, will do that... I still find the manuals a bit intimidating, but will definitely try.
[11:15] <Sanne> weiers: yeah, at first the man pages seem overwhelning, but you'll get used to it. I did ;)
[11:15] <SublimeInfidel> "/contains a file system with errors, check forced." "/: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY."
[11:15] <SublimeInfidel> Any idea's?
[11:15] <fredforfaen> weiers me to , i consider myself to still be a newbie....but give it a go , youll defenately learn something
[11:15] <nalioth> SublimeInfidel: run fsck manually
[11:15] <SublimeInfidel> Sorry, new with Ubuntu
[11:15] <SublimeInfidel> Mind lending a hand on how to do that?
[11:15] <nalioth> SublimeInfidel: open a terminal and type "man fsck"
[11:16] <SublimeInfidel> "bash: man; command not found
[11:16] <aleitner> Whats the recommended way to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy RC? Download CD, or change /etc/apt/sources.list by hand?
[11:16] <weiers> Every time I boot up I get the message that HAL is broken. I've been ignoring it for the last 6 weeks, but what manual page should I read to find out what is wrong there and if it is important?
[11:16] <pabix> sorry, does anyone here still have the deb package libdivx4linux in his /var/cache/apt/archive ?
[11:16] <nalioth> aleitner: see /topic
[11:16] <shadeofgrey> okay guys and gals...  i think this is a better question... where can i find a list of all the msot useful command-line commands and how their syntax works?
[11:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shadeofgrey about cli
[11:17] <aleitner> nalioth: aaahh, cool!
[11:17] <shadeofgrey> ....  i guess nautilus isnt as stable as i hoped it would be with the 5.10 preview release
[11:17] <robertj> does breezy Evince do the html forms thing?
[11:17] <robertj> err not html pdf forms
[11:18] <aleitner> nalioth: the page mentions that this is work in progress. are there any known issues?
[11:19] <Sanne> shadeofgrey: there's the Debian Reference Card I like a lot, it's Debian, not Ubuntu, but most commands should work: http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/
[11:19] <Hoxzer> can I somehow set the whole xserver system to ubuntu default?
[11:20] <Chadza> What's the command to rename a single file?
[11:21] <chavo> Chadza, mv oldname newname
[11:21] <fredforfaen> Chadza use #mv file newfile
[11:21] <SublimeInfidel> I can't run "man fsck" because I can't login to root@ubuntu:`$. How do I login into Ubuntu so its @ubuntu instead of @ none?
[11:21] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , if i found a very strange mount issue, but its ubuntu releated would it be an good idea to describe somehwere this issue?I mean i can deal now with it but its for sure an ubuntu mount issue!
[11:22] <pabix> It's the name of the machine, SublimeInfidel
[11:22] <Chadza> Thank ya all.
[11:22] <pabix> SublimeInfidel At start, choose "recovery mode"
[11:23] <nemopaice> I just Dl linux for the first time. I am trying to install netscape. I have it extrcted on my desktop. does anyone know how to install it?
[11:23] <weiers> fredforfaen   sorry, how do I exit a man page?
[11:23] <Seveas> nemopaice, netscape?!?
[11:23] <Seveas> weiers, q
[11:23] <lui> people, i'm trying to install smeg but i have this message: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:23] <lui>   smeg: Depends: python-xdg (>= 0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed
[11:23] <lui> E: Broken packages
[11:23] <Seveas> nemopaice, try mozilla if you want something that looks like netscape
[11:24] <weiers> seveas, thanks, I was trying ctrl q and ctrl esc, but to no avail
[11:24] <_jason> wow
[11:24] <Seveas> lui, use the smeg install script if you're on hoary
[11:24] <nemopaice> Well I have my email client through netscape
[11:24] <Seveas> nemopaice, mozilla thunderbird is the successor of that
[11:24] <lui> ;) ok Seveas
[11:24] <megabyte405> Hey guys - I just upgraded to breezy, but now my sound is crappy - sounds like it is clipping/too high, and any sound say from Gaim will make Rhythmbox stutter, and this machine has plenty of resources
[11:24] <nemopaice> I dont know how to intall anything on linux.
[11:24] <b0uncer> how can I update my Gnome to 2.12?
[11:25] <Seveas> b0uncer, by upgrading to breezy
[11:25] <Chadza> nemopaice: Check out synaptic
[11:25] <joe_> hello
[11:25] <Seveas> nemopaice, system -> apmin-> synaptic
[11:25] <b0uncer> Seveas, which happens like how
[11:25] <Chadza> nemopaice: Nice interface to installing everything.
[11:25] <Seveas> search for thunderburd
[11:25] <joe_> can someone tell me the command line to start samba?
[11:25] <Seveas> !tell b0uncer about breezy
[11:25] <b0uncer> thanks
[11:25] <nemopaice> ok thank you very much
[11:25] <weiers> ! tell weiers about breezy
[11:25] <ubotu> weiers: No idea
[11:26] <weiers> !tell weiers about breezy
[11:26] <joe_> help?!
[11:27] <logan001101> chii: do you know chobit?
[11:27] <b0uncer> how do I change my reposities' address then?
[11:27] <b0uncer> or actually, where from Synaptic
[11:27] <eewald> hello! what is the difference between ubuntu-5.10 rc and ubuntu-5.10-preview?
[11:27] <b0uncer> *in
[11:28] <b0uncer> "Change your repositories to look for Breezy"
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> the bot has a url for that.
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> i think
[11:28] <b0uncer> Dr_Willis, I don't know how to use that bot, yet
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> or the topic has one also :P
[11:28] <nalioth> !upgrade2breezy
[11:28] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> Hmm where is the bot?
[11:28] <cevizoglu> here
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> ubotu help
[11:30] <zygis> hei, just installed daily CD image of breezy on my asus laptop, and I can't boot it. on boot when starting hotplug boot process just stops
[11:30] <zygis> any ideas?
[11:30] <b0uncer> Dr_Willis, yeah, but where exactly do I change that url
[11:30] <b0uncer> in some file or in Synaptics or where?
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> b0uncer,  the apt.sources file is in /etc/apt/ I think.. not on a ubuntu system at the moment.. i may be wrong.
[11:31] <weiers> !upgrade2breezy
[11:31] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> or ya can edit them from within synaptic i think
[11:31] <b0uncer> weiers, I've seen that three times now
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> I just reintalled.. dident upgrade
[11:31] <b0uncer> still don't know where do I edit that url
[11:31] <b0uncer> I hate reinstalling:) woo much windows
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> #
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> Open up Synaptic Package Manager
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> #
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> Change your repositories to look for Breezy
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. why did it do that.. odd..
[11:32] <weiers> sorry b0uncer, I was just trying to figure how the exclamation mark works
[11:32] <fredforfaen> b0uncer /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:32] <telonir> there is a problem in using nvidia drivers wit kernel 2.6. can i use kernel 2.4 with packages from ubuntu 5.10/5.04 ?
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> telonir,  ive had no problems with them
[11:32] <b0uncer> fredforfaen, thanks
[11:32] <fredforfaen> b0uncer do it manually with gedit like this ; sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:33] <telonir> kernel 2.4 has no udev :/
[11:33] <b0uncer> looks like something's happening
[11:34] <b0uncer> :D
[11:34] <myk> Hey, does anyone know how to fix the problem w/ all of the iso's off of the ubuntu site being corrupted, like the pxelinux.0 file and others arn't correct? Thanks
[11:34] <telonir> Dr_Willis, ?! no udev in 2.4 ?!
[11:34] <fredforfaen> good :)
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> telonir,  no clue.. :P
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> I dont use 2.4
[11:34] <fredforfaen> b0uncer learn to use locate so you can search for files...man locate
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> i aint had tomess with the kernel in a long time.
[11:34] <lesshaste> can any genius here work out how to watch the rocket race here http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032118/
[11:35] <b0uncer> hey I think it's working!
[11:35] <b0uncer> thanks dudes!
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> http://www.gnu.org/software/findutils/
[11:35] <b0uncer> and good night :)
[11:35] <b0uncer> \o
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> don wrong channel for that url :P
[11:36] <telonir> well? the absence of udev doesnt cause problems?
[11:36] <zygis> is there any way to disable hotplug from starting on boot via kernel command line?
[11:37] <telonir> which ubuntu had kernel 2.4 ?
[11:37] <telonir> 4.10 or 5.04?
[11:37] <zygis> 4.10
[11:37] <hjk57> someone recommended using psyBNC on xchat/breezy preview.  can't 'install' it. anyone have any tips?
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> zygis,  thers dozens of kernel boot time options.. but it could be somthing befor hotplug thats crashing.. check  the forums/wikis yet?
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> psyBNC, :P Ugh.
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> why would someone reccomend it? heh heh.
[11:39] <hjk57> no clue.. also tried using just 'bnc'.. not sure how to configure it though.
[11:39] <hjk57> i just want to mask real ip on here.
[11:39] <zygis> Nah, I believe it's hotplug magic doesn't work, since I get [ok] s on every item before hotplug
[11:39] <hjk57> am open to any sugguestions
[11:39] <telonir> so i can get the old kernel and install it on my 5.10 and it will work?
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> hjk57,  why bother.
[11:40] <telonir> psyBNC?
[11:40] <telonir> whats it do?
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> its like an irc proxy
[11:41] <telonir> why can you need it?
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> it has some uses.. like it can sort of make you stay on irc, then you can connect to it from other macines and still be in same room, or somthing.. i forget.
[11:42] <eewald> there are two different iso's on ubuntu download pages
[11:42] <eewald> what is the difference between ubuntu-5.10 rc and ubuntu-5.10-preview?
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> and a proxy would not show your origianl ip.
[11:42] <fredforfaen> eewald i guess not much...but i really dont know
[11:43] <telonir> hmm i guess it means i need to get the old drivers
[11:43] <hjk57> i'm new irc/xchat.. am assuming red text was a PM (?) if not, sorry for messaging you, Dr_Willis
[11:43] <telonir> for nvidia
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> i dident see no msg. :P
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> lol..
[11:43] <hjk57> hmm
[11:43] <telonir> blue
[11:43] <kbrooks> hjk57: hi light
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> redtext may be text that has your nick in it. hjk57
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> :P
[11:43] <hjk57> ohhhhh
[11:44] <hjk57> thanks :)
[11:44] <kbrooks> hjk57: blue is hilight in pm
[11:44] <kbrooks> s/pm/query/
[11:44] <InitMass> how do one change which app should be used when opening certain filetypes?
[11:44] <telonir> blue is the color the tab marker becomes
[11:44] <fredforfaen> rightclick and choose run with?
[11:45] <hjk57> Dr_Willis i just don't like my ip freely available to anyone..  so any tips ?
[11:45] <telonir> hjk57, why not?
[11:45] <kbrooks> hjk57: it has to be
[11:45] <telonir> anyways if psybnc runs on your comp - its your ip
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> hjk57,  dont worry about it. every time ive seen some one be paranoid about that on irc.. its not been worth worrying about
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> and what telonir  says is true
[11:46] <telonir> its red its red
[11:46] <[LethAL] > hjk57, If it's any comfort, you can request a generica usermask on freenode
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> if it was a proboem.. there are features of some irc servers tht can hide Everyones ip..   but aparently the freenode admins dont think its that big an issue
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> Gneric usermask.. cool
[11:46] <[LethAL] > I'm on a server that encodes IPs into Hex or something
[11:47] <[LethAL] > yeah, /unaffilated/something
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> if everyone had them  - i guess it could make some banning of the bots a little annoying
[11:48] <[LethAL] > Hehe
[11:48] <telonir> Generic usermask?
[11:48] <bytecoder> I've heard that browser mode is the default in the next ubuntu release
[11:48] <bytecoder> is that true?
[11:48] <bytecoder> for nautilus, that is
[11:48] <zygis> Dr_Willis, it was damn hotplug, see this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=1829499#post1829499 brilliant idea to use init=/bin/sh
[11:48] <kbrooks> bytecoder: let me test
[11:48] <[LethAL] > telonir, the bit in brackets when someone joins the channel
[11:48] <kbrooks> bytecoder: Yeah.
[11:48] <bytecoder> oh
[11:48] <kbrooks> bytecoder: in thoery
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> zygis,  thats just getting you to a 'rescue' shell.. :P what do ya then do to FIX the proboem? :P
[11:48] <bytecoder> anybody know why they changed it?
[11:48] <_rb_> heyas. I'm having trouble with a samba server. anyone able to help me or tell me where to look next ? I'm trying to get windows to stop being a slag n open the same program from more than one terminal at a time, but it recoins the acces to a dbf file is denied when someone else has logged in already but is no longer using the program. got 4 liscences, and the files worked fine when they were shared on an old win98 machine with the same pat
[11:48] <_rb_> hs etc. any ideas ?
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> bytecoder,  it was the default last i tried it...
[11:49] <kbrooks> bytecoder: i'm sure i configed nautilus at one time
[11:49] <kbrooks> icbw
[11:49] <bytecoder> Dr_Willis, oh
[11:49] <bytecoder> I wouldn't know
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> bytecoder,  its easially changed..  tehe whole 'browser/spatial' thing is annoying.
[11:49] <zygis> Dr_Willis, well, at first I need to make my first boot after installation :)
[11:49] <kbrooks> bytecoder: probable reason: spatial ... erm is ... annoying
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> you can easially use SPatial mode.. then with a icon/menu/script open to nav mode.
[11:50] <zygis> then further research will follow
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> zygis,  ouchies. :P
[11:50] <bytecoder> I know
[11:50] <telonir> "kernel-image" package includes the modules?
[11:50] <Chousuke> kbrooks: spatial can be useful too
[11:50] <bytecoder> I was just wondering, since it doesn't make much sense in a usability-based distro
[11:50] <kbrooks> Chousuke: in what cases?
[11:50] <kbrooks> the browser mode is VERY usable, bytecoder
[11:50] <Chousuke> If you want to move a lot of files around.
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> bytecoder,  some would argue that Spatial is Less useable... some would argue the opposite
[11:51] <jaydg> _rb_, I guess you should have a look at file locking
[11:51] <Chousuke> ie. organising.
[11:51] <bytecoder> kbrooks, that's somewhat of an oxymoron, isn't it?
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> dependng on what i am doing.  i use one or another.
[11:51] <bytecoder> Dr_Willis, nah
[11:51] <kbrooks> bytecoder: i argue it is
[11:51] <Chousuke> I launch all my files with Quicksilver
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> or i fire up a xterm and use 'mc' , or 'worker' or 'gentoo' or some other 2 pane window manager tool
[11:51] <telonir> guys
[11:51] <telonir> "kernel-image" package includes the modules?
[11:51] <Chousuke> Ubuntu needs something like quicksilver.
[11:51] <kbrooks> spatial is less usable to me IMO
[11:51] <telonir> importatnt
[11:51] <Chousuke> Seriously.
[11:52] <bytecoder> 'gentoo'?
[11:52] <telonir> don wanna mess up my kernel
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> bytecoder,  its the name of a disrto and a '2 pane file manager'
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> :P
[11:52] <_rb_> yeah, have done. theres a thing called oplocks, and ive disable both levels of it, but windows is keeping some sort of cache of it somehow. know how i can kill the cache ?
[11:52] <bytecoder> oh
[11:52] <kbrooks> bytecoder: a linux distro and a file manager
[11:52] <bytecoder> that's somewhat confusing
[11:52] <Chousuke> Quicksilver is ownage, and I've seen nothing like it outside OS X. Ubuntu devs, please clone it. :)
[11:52] <bytecoder> didn't think it was the distro, just wanted to make sure
[11:52] <_rb_> if i had my way, we'd rip the whole lot out n use ubuntu on all the machiunes
[11:52] <Seveas> bytecoder, the gentoo distro people stole the name :)
[11:52] <telonir> ?!
[11:52] <kbrooks> Seveas: No.
[11:52] <bytecoder> Seveas, sounds about right
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> bytecoder,  i think the program was out befor. :P  Gotta love the good old 2 pane file managers
[11:52] <kbrooks> Seveas: wrong.
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> now those are useable!
[11:53] <kbrooks> Seveas: gentoo is the name of a penguin too
[11:53] <bytecoder> I guess, but only if you use your own twisted definition of 'usable'
[11:53] <bytecoder> same to you, kbrooks
[11:53] <kbrooks> a species
[11:53] <Seveas> kbrooks, then both stole the name :)
[11:53] <bytecoder> didn't have time to respond to your comment before, so that applies to you aswell :)
[11:53] <jaydg> _rb_, try to reboot these.
[11:53] <carambol> how/where is et te codecs Breezy
[11:54] <bytecoder> anyway, that's all I wanted to know
[11:54] <kbrooks> Seveas: penguin name was put on long before gentoo linux and the file manager
[11:54] <bytecoder> thanks
[11:54] <carambol> sorry where /how i get the codecs,Breezy?
[11:54] <bytecoder> ooh, and I've got a little treat for you spatial haters out there :)
[11:54] <kbrooks> bytecoder: link
[11:54] <bytecoder> http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/finder.ars/1
[11:54] <bytecoder> it's a great read
[11:54] <_rb_> have done, but then the next machine to log in somehow locks the files for all the other windows machines, even tho the server reports that there aren't any files locked except for the log which gets opned when windows complains that the other files are locked and wants to log the issue
[11:54] <telonir> "debian" has a meaning?
[11:54] <bytecoder> I recommend it for everyone
[11:54] <durt> is there a command to see what files are taking up how much disk space?
[11:55] <Seveas> telonir, yes
[11:55] <kbrooks> telonir: look it up
[11:55] <Seveas> debian is short for Deborah Ian
[11:55] <stpere> durt, du
[11:55] <Yetr2> telonir, 'anal retentive'
[11:55] <Seveas> Ian is Ian murdoch, founder of Debian
[11:55] <bytecoder> who's deborah?
[11:55] <Seveas> Deborah is his wife
[11:55] <bytecoder> oh
[11:55] <bytecoder> makes sense
[11:55] <bytecoder> or does it...
[11:55] <bytecoder> yeah
[11:55] <bytecoder> ok, thanks again
[11:55] <Chousuke> Deb Ian. :)
[11:55] <bytecoder> bye
[11:55] <windex> instead i will just be confused
[11:55] <apsync> what's a good ircd for linux?
[11:55] <Chousuke> ircd? :P
[11:56] <durt> thanks stpere
[11:56] <apsync> irc server
[11:56] <Chousuke> yes, I know
[11:56] <telonir> not much help : http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=+debian
[11:56] <Chousuke> I was suggesting ircd
[11:56] <apsync> oh
[11:56] <jaydg> _rb_, guess the database has to be r/w
[11:56] <apsync> hehehe
[11:56] <Pluk> i like ircd-hybrid
[11:56] <Chousuke> since iirc, that package exists. :P
[11:56] <jaydg> ;)
[11:56] <apsync> Ok, thank you
[11:56] <telonir> why run and irc server?
[11:56] <telonir> an
[11:57] <_rb_> yeah, at the mo, while we get the damn thing to work, i've shared everything with full permissions, it just keeps deciding that there are problems when access the files
[11:57] <Pluk> telonir, for lanparties for example
[11:57] <_rb_> (windows says the access is denied)
[11:57] <telonir> lanparties?
[11:57] <telonir> you cant get a beer through irc...
[11:57] <jaydg> _rb_, do you have anything in samba's logs?
[11:58] <jmg> morning all :)
[11:58] <Pluk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAN_party
[11:58] <kbrooks> define spatial?
[11:58] <r0xoR> telonir, sure you can :)
[11:58] <r0xoR> lol downgrading? wtf?
[11:59] <_rb_> nah. well i'd actually have to look, but samba is working fine as far as i know. I'm so close to just opening up the damn thing and saying that each computer can use the thing and screw safety
[11:59] <mirak> you need to be root to share a windows folder ?
[11:59] <mirak> that's ridiculous
[12:00] <jaydg> usually you have machine access log whith everything in them, as well as denied access