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| mhz | moin | 01:12 |
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| mhz | ogra, breezy-install-i386.iso | 01:12 |
| mhz | 675626776 98% 19.89kB/s 0:09:3942 | 01:12 |
| mhz | we're getting closer to the truth :D | 01:12 |
| ogra | phew | 01:12 |
| ogra | but it didnt really speed up :/ | 01:13 |
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| mhz | nop | 01:13 |
| mhz | it gave some time to make sure I can make DHCP work (by myself), though | 01:15 |
| mhz | 687157248 100% 28.27kB/s 6:35:33 (1, 100.0% of 1) | 01:24 |
| mhz | cool! | 01:24 |
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| mhz | correction:/me is sent to get the laundry :( | 01:26 |
| mhz | re | 01:45 |
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| mhz | re | 04:40 |
| arkanox_ | hi mhz | 04:41 |
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| Yagisan | ogra: ping | 11:37 |
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| hyperactivecrond | hey al | 02:38 |
| hyperactivecrond | all` | 02:38 |
| spacey_ki | moin | 02:45 |
| Yagisan | ogra: the patch I sent you is also here http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17297 | 03:43 |
| ogra | Yagisan, thanks, i already forwarded it to mdz for inclusion in dapper | 03:44 |
| Yagisan | ogra: hey - your here - I hoped for some feedback - I didn't get you eairlier - so I stuck it on bugzilla | 03:45 |
| ogra | i wont test it now, to much weird stuff to solve for release now... | 03:46 |
| Yagisan | I'm planning to test out with qemu for non-trivial multi-client-arch support soon | 03:46 |
| Yagisan | no worries | 03:46 |
| ogra | and it wont get accepted 5 days before release for the current one | 03:46 |
| Yagisan | I was expecting dapper for that | 03:47 |
| ogra | yup | 03:47 |
| ogra | mdz has a bazaar tree for bleeding edge stuff... you might want to branch it :) | 03:48 |
| Yagisan | do you get an error about being unable to write to volotile on boot and no non-free kernel modules ? | 03:48 |
| === Yagisan doesn't know how to use bazzar | ||
| ogra | http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/archives/matt.zimmerman@canonical.com/ | 03:48 |
| ogra | i dont use nonfree kernel modules, but to my knowledge volatile is bind mounted from the server anyway | 03:49 |
| Yagisan | I'll see if I can grab a log | 03:49 |
| Yagisan | wait - volotile is bind mounted ? | 03:49 |
| ogra | i think so... | 03:50 |
| Yagisan | that won't work with multi-client-arches well | 03:50 |
| Yagisan | thanks for sending my patch to mdz | 03:51 |
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| mhz_ed | morning | 04:06 |
| mhz_ed | ogra, ping? | 04:07 |
| Yagisan | G'day | 04:07 |
| ogra | mhz_ed, hi | 04:07 |
| mhz_ed | gd, Yagisan | 04:07 |
| mhz_ed | few weeks ago I was talking about edubuntu to one of the guys in Tecnocimiento. All the time our conversation lasted, he thought I was talking about a guy named Edward Ubuntu, leader of an educational project based on Debian :D | 04:09 |
| mhz_ed | I couldn't help the laughter when he confessed that | 04:09 |
| mhz_ed | he had even googled about edward ubuntu LOL | 04:10 |
| mhz_ed | ogra, so, here i am with your iso installed onto this box. My interfaces are eth0 -> web | eth1 -> local net (192.168.0.1 as ip and gw) | 04:11 |
| ogra | the install went errorfree ? | 04:11 |
| mhz_ed | is ti just a matter or booting clients now, or there's a service I should restart? | 04:11 |
| mhz_ed | YES!!! | 04:11 |
| ogra | yay | 04:12 |
| mhz_ed | I can't tell you how happy I was at 3:30 AM | 04:12 |
| mhz_ed | but I was dead sleepy so I went to bed | 04:12 |
| ogra | with this ip stuff you should just restart dhcpd and all should be fine | 04:13 |
| mhz_ed | okidoki. | 04:13 |
| ogra | sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart iirc | 04:13 |
| mhz_ed | what I did do, is that at installing time I only configed eth1 and omitted eth0 in order to avoid possible conflicts | 04:14 |
| ogra | ah, ok, then it should run already | 04:14 |
| mhz_ed | hehe, yes. After more than 30 diff tries, stopin, starting services I can manage well :D | 04:14 |
| mhz_ed | me booting thin laptop now... let's see | 04:15 |
| mhz_ed | heheh.. booting | 04:15 |
| ogra | great | 04:15 |
| ogra | :) | 04:15 |
| mhz_ed | let's see once scripts finish if we can work | 04:16 |
| mhz_ed | hmmm.... | 04:16 |
| mhz_ed | * starting RAID.. | 04:16 |
| mhz_ed | * calculating module dependencies | 04:16 |
| mhz_ed | oopppps, a couple of warnings about LTSP | 04:17 |
| mhz_ed | Fialure initializing /etc/net... | 04:17 |
| ogra | thats normal | 04:17 |
| mhz_ed | I see an X, I see an X!!! | 04:17 |
| mhz_ed | yahooooooooooooo | 04:17 |
| ogra | its caused by read only filesystem | 04:17 |
| mhz_ed | username: | 04:18 |
| mhz_ed | gooooogle!! | 04:18 |
| mhz_ed | what username?? | 04:18 |
| ogra | the one you configured on install ? | 04:19 |
| ogra | or another one you created afterwards, as you like :) | 04:19 |
| mhz_ed | oh, only that one, duh! | 04:19 |
| mhz_ed | ogra, so, I could also install a lighter desktop and it all should run smoothly? | 04:20 |
| ogra | you lo in to the normal desktop session like you would if you were directly on the server, so all you do there will be reflected by it | 04:20 |
| ogra | sure | 04:20 |
| ogra | note that we start the default Xsessio... | 04:20 |
| === mhz_ed wife's thought I had an accident because of the way I expressed my happines :D | ||
| ogra | you might have to uninstall other sessions... session selection is planned for next release only.. | 04:21 |
| mhz_ed | no problem. So I could disable GDM and force users to use a preconfiged .xinitrc ?? | 04:21 |
| ogra | (or create a ~/.xsession file) | 04:21 |
| ogra | do that in ~/.xsession... not .xinitrc :) | 04:22 |
| ogra | and what you see is not gdm ;) | 04:22 |
| Yagisan | sdm | 04:22 |
| ogra | ldm ;) | 04:22 |
| Yagisan | close | 04:22 |
| Yagisan | ?dm :) | 04:22 |
| mhz_ed | educool | 04:22 |
| ogra | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/ | 04:23 |
| ogra | ^^ has a preview and install instructions for the upcoming changes | 04:23 |
| mhz_ed | ogra, let me say this: You have been doing a hell of a Job (literally) | 04:23 |
| ogra | thanks :) | 04:23 |
| mhz_ed | it's pure truth | 04:23 |
| ogra | i still need fixes to go in that mdz doesnt allow currently... we're still fighting | 04:24 |
| ogra | i.e. PATH is wrong... | 04:24 |
| mhz_ed | hence I insist: ."a hell of a job" | 04:24 |
| ogra | (no /usr/games... try to run a game) | 04:24 |
| mhz_ed | :D | 04:24 |
| Yagisan | ogra: I did - no wesnoth :( | 04:24 |
| ogra | its there, just the patch is wrong :( | 04:25 |
| mhz_ed | no such file | 04:25 |
| ogra | s/patch/path | 04:25 |
| mhz_ed | :) | 04:25 |
| ogra | yes | 04:25 |
| ogra | all DMs set it on login, only ldm doesnt... mdz doesnt answer to my change request :( | 04:25 |
| mhz_ed | anyways we can "speak in the dark" with him? | 04:26 |
| ogra | nah... | 04:26 |
| ogra | he just wants the *right* fix for that and thinks it should be done in ssh... i disagree, we have to fight this out ;) | 04:26 |
| mhz_ed | what if he suddenly sufferen and accident? | 04:27 |
| Yagisan | why does he think it's sshs problem ? | 04:27 |
| ogra | then i'd take it over, but it would use its best developer and inventor :) | 04:27 |
| mhz_ed | :D | 04:27 |
| ogra | because ssh should set the environment on login in his opinoin... | 04:28 |
| mhz_ed | oh, by the way... yesterday, my DHCP server setting did not work thruough my dlink router. Today I booted via crossover rj45 | 04:28 |
| ogra | but all othr DMs set it before attempting to login in X so i think the same behavior is right for ldm and ssh | 04:28 |
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| ogra | i have 4 switches between my client and server... shouldnt be an issue | 04:29 |
| Yagisan | I'd agree with you that ldm should set it. It is then consistent with all other DMs. If he disagrees - he should file a bug on the other DMs | 04:31 |
| mhz_ed | hmmm, and how do I turned clients off? | 04:31 |
| Yagisan | mhz_ed: log out and power button | 04:32 |
| mhz_ed | Yagisan, I did that but I get back to ldm | 04:32 |
| Yagisan | hold down power button for about 4 seconds | 04:33 |
| mhz_ed | hehehehehe | 04:33 |
| mhz_ed | oh, you mean "force them done" | 04:33 |
| mhz_ed | oh, you mean "force them down | 04:33 |
| Yagisan | I'd like shutdown -h as a local app myself | 04:33 |
| Yagisan | yeah - force them down | 04:33 |
| Yagisan | at the ldm screen your not going to lose data | 04:33 |
| Yagisan | just pretend its DOS | 04:34 |
| ogra | i'll add a shutdown option to ldm in dapper | 04:35 |
| mhz_ed | :( Nope, it won't boot using the dlink in between | 04:35 |
| mhz_ed | not even dhcp passes | 04:35 |
| ogra | thats very strange | 04:36 |
| mhz_ed | yes | 04:36 |
| ogra | you dont use the crosslik cable on to the router ? | 04:36 |
| ogra | s/on// | 04:36 |
| mhz_ed | nnnnoooop | 04:36 |
| mhz_ed | hehehe | 04:36 |
| ogra | try it, probably it helps ;) | 04:37 |
| ogra | no really, its quite strange | 04:37 |
| mhz_ed | but it always worked ok | 04:37 |
| mhz_ed | ah, but worked ok with no dhcp server set by then | 04:37 |
| mhz_ed | could it be that my eth1 is sharing gw IP | 04:38 |
| ogra | oh, yes, you shouldnt run two in one net... except configured as repeating server | 04:38 |
| mhz_ed | sahring = using | 04:38 |
| mhz_ed | and how can I set 2 ips to same eth1 | 04:39 |
| ogra | ifconfig eth1:0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx | 04:40 |
| ogra | and add a route... | 04:40 |
| mhz_ed | or is it eth1 = 192.168.0.2 and the router must have 192.168.0.1 | 04:40 |
| mhz_ed | ? | 04:40 |
| ogra | what is the router ? a standalone one ? | 04:40 |
| mhz_ed | router is dLink | 04:40 |
| ogra | and has a static ip ? | 04:41 |
| mhz_ed | dunno | 04:41 |
| mhz_ed | never touched it | 04:41 |
| ogra | i would give it 192.168.0.1 as static ip... | 04:41 |
| mhz_ed | yep, and how? | 04:42 |
| ogra | doesnt it have a web interface to configure it ? | 04:42 |
| mhz_ed | want me to google? | 04:42 |
| mhz_ed | oh, i think it does | 04:42 |
| ogra | i mean, how do you configure to dial in with it ? | 04:42 |
| mhz_ed | it has an Ip I can access and get to a web interface | 04:43 |
| mhz_ed | but i ave never dialed in | 04:43 |
| ogra | so what does it route then ? | 04:43 |
| mhz_ed | actually, now that you mention it, it's there to let me give other machines web access, only | 04:44 |
| mhz_ed | like a HUB | 04:44 |
| mhz_ed | ogra, current Motorola IPS Modem IP is 192.168.100.1 | 04:50 |
| === mhz_ed still trying to get dlink ip | ||
| mhz_ed | ogra, few minutes ago you suggested: ifconfig eth1:0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xx | 04:51 |
| mhz_ed | aslo: and add a route.. | 04:51 |
| ogra | yes, if you need two IPs on one interface | 04:51 |
| ogra | eth1:0 is an alias for eth1 | 04:52 |
| mhz_ed | by doing so, I can give eth1: ...1 and eth1:0 ...2 ? being 1 the gw and 2 the ip? | 04:52 |
| ogra | why ? | 04:52 |
| mhz_ed | I need my clients to boot from server and have web acces, right? | 04:53 |
| ogra | you need your clients to boot from the server... nothing more or the clients... dont forget, you log in directly on the server | 04:54 |
| ogra | s/or/on/ | 04:54 |
| mhz_ed | duh1!right | 04:55 |
| ogra | so if you have eth0->web & eth1->thin client network, you boot the client on eth1's network, lo in via ssh -X on the server and access the web through eth0 directly from there | 04:55 |
| ogra | s/lo/log/ | 04:55 |
| mhz_ed | absolutely right | 04:56 |
| ogra | it all happens on the server, eth1 is only for low level stuff to the clients... | 04:56 |
| ogra | no routig required.... | 04:56 |
| mhz_ed | uh, but then I forgot about my wife. | 04:56 |
| mhz_ed | she uses MS | 04:57 |
| ogra | and is on the eth0 network ? | 04:57 |
| === mhz_ed still can't convince her to see the light | ||
| mhz_ed | she used to have static ip 192... and set 192...1 as gw so she go out | 04:57 |
| ogra | fine... | 04:58 |
| mhz_ed | hmm, I am getting errors from this reps. deb http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse | 05:01 |
| mhz_ed | deb-src http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse | 05:01 |
| ogra | heh, breezy-backports ??? | 05:01 |
| mhz_ed | it was there and I said, why not? | 05:02 |
| mhz_ed | I don't want it? | 05:02 |
| ogra | from where should they come ? a vaporware archive ? | 05:02 |
| ogra | there is nothing from where you could backport something to breezy yet ;) | 05:03 |
| mhz_ed | LOL | 05:03 |
| === mhz_ed commenting hose lines | ||
| === mhz_ed reading alittle | ||
| Yagisan | ogra - well *cough* *cough* I have some breezy-backports :) | 05:08 |
| ogra | Yagisan, from which dapper did you get it :p ? | 05:09 |
| Yagisan | from my list of "it's to late for breezy" :) | 05:09 |
| Yagisan | s/to/too | 05:09 |
| Yagisan | includes multi-client-support, action games etc :-P | 05:10 |
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| stockholm | jane_: there? | 07:47 |
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| mhz_ed | re | 11:05 |
| mhz_ed | ogra, E.T. phone home | 11:05 |
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| mhz_ed | ogra, ping? | 11:31 |
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| fersfeir | Hi, i try to install edubuntu an get the error http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/1127/initrdtools1xa.png and cat /target/var..... is http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7377/bootstraplog0zd.png | 11:43 |
| fersfeir | some idea about the error? | 11:43 |
| fersfeir | i am using the image http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/edubuntu/5.10/edubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso | 11:45 |
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| hno73 | crimsun: ping | 11:55 |
| hno73 | I've put up a test of the new wiki skin at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ | 11:56 |
| hno73 | anyone want to test? | 11:56 |
| hno73 | (anyone else around this late on a Saturday? :) ) | 11:56 |
| fersfeir | well.... | 11:58 |
| fersfeir | second try | 11:58 |
| mhz_ed | hno73, hey, nice to see you, long time. | 12:00 |
| hno73 | mhz_ed: hey! | 12:00 |
| hno73 | want to test my new wiki skin? :) | 12:00 |
| mhz_ed | of course! been waiting for it | 12:00 |
| hno73 | how are things? | 12:00 |
| mhz_ed | better | 12:00 |
| mhz_ed | lot better | 12:01 |
| mhz_ed | :) | 12:01 |
| hno73 | so go to the main wiki, and select the edubuntu skin | 12:01 |
| mhz_ed | but still no money, just volunteering | 12:01 |
| hno73 | good | 12:01 |
| hno73 | right | 12:01 |
| === mhz_ed login in | ||
| === hno73 crosses his fingers | ||
| mhz_ed | hehehe, I had forgot password :( duh! | 12:03 |
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