=== ogra [n=ogra@p5089DDBA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Kingbahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === linescanner [n=andy@62.121.26.69] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-173-84.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=Elive_us@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [01:12] moin [01:12] ogra, breezy-install-i386.iso [01:12] 675626776 98% 19.89kB/s 0:09:3942 [01:12] we're getting closer to the truth :D [01:12] phew [01:13] but it didnt really speed up :/ === mhz_off is now known as mhz [01:13] nop [01:15] it gave some time to make sure I can make DHCP work (by myself), though [01:24] 687157248 100% 28.27kB/s 6:35:33 (1, 100.0% of 1) [01:24] cool! === mhz is connecting USB cdrw, and stuff to burn that so promising edubuntu.iso [01:26] correction:/me is sent to get the laundry :( [01:45] re === mhz BBS === mhz [n=Elive_us@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu === KingBahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:51] re === macgyver2 is now known as mac2|asleep === pitux [n=pitux@161-188-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === arkanox_ [n=arkanox@pc-83-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=Elive_us@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [04:40] re [04:41] hi mhz === arkanox_ [n=arkanox@pc-83-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === arkanox__ [n=arkanox@pc-83-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkanox__ [n=arkanox@pc-83-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === arkanox__ [n=arkanox@pc-83-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkanox__ [n=arkanox@pc-83-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === KingBahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@161-188-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === downclimb [n=johnson@host-69-145-229-49.cac-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@161-188-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-48-178.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu === mwest [n=mwest@tsl.uct.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-48-178.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu === poningru_ [n=poningru@n128-227-13-23.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-122-217.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === jane_ [n=JaneW@wbs-146-173-84.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [11:37] ogra: ping === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === hilaire_ [i=hilaire@81.56.227.203] has joined #edubuntu === fersfei1 [n=fernando@201.250.9.242] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089DDBA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === hyperactivecrond [n=chris@68.255.251.72] has joined #edubuntu [02:38] hey al [02:38] all` [02:45] moin [03:43] ogra: the patch I sent you is also here http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17297 [03:44] Yagisan, thanks, i already forwarded it to mdz for inclusion in dapper [03:45] ogra: hey - your here - I hoped for some feedback - I didn't get you eairlier - so I stuck it on bugzilla [03:46] i wont test it now, to much weird stuff to solve for release now... [03:46] I'm planning to test out with qemu for non-trivial multi-client-arch support soon [03:46] no worries [03:46] and it wont get accepted 5 days before release for the current one [03:47] I was expecting dapper for that [03:47] yup [03:48] mdz has a bazaar tree for bleeding edge stuff... you might want to branch it :) [03:48] do you get an error about being unable to write to volotile on boot and no non-free kernel modules ? === Yagisan doesn't know how to use bazzar [03:48] http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/archives/matt.zimmerman@canonical.com/ [03:49] i dont use nonfree kernel modules, but to my knowledge volatile is bind mounted from the server anyway [03:49] I'll see if I can grab a log [03:49] wait - volotile is bind mounted ? [03:50] i think so... [03:50] that won't work with multi-client-arches well [03:51] thanks for sending my patch to mdz === bdoin [n=coudoin@bla31-1-82-228-70-121.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_ed [n=gnulibre@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:06] morning [04:07] ogra, ping? [04:07] G'day [04:07] mhz_ed, hi [04:07] gd, Yagisan [04:09] few weeks ago I was talking about edubuntu to one of the guys in Tecnocimiento. All the time our conversation lasted, he thought I was talking about a guy named Edward Ubuntu, leader of an educational project based on Debian :D [04:09] I couldn't help the laughter when he confessed that [04:10] he had even googled about edward ubuntu LOL [04:11] ogra, so, here i am with your iso installed onto this box. My interfaces are eth0 -> web | eth1 -> local net (192.168.0.1 as ip and gw) [04:11] the install went errorfree ? [04:11] is ti just a matter or booting clients now, or there's a service I should restart? [04:11] YES!!! [04:12] yay [04:12] I can't tell you how happy I was at 3:30 AM [04:12] but I was dead sleepy so I went to bed [04:13] with this ip stuff you should just restart dhcpd and all should be fine [04:13] okidoki. [04:13] sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart iirc [04:14] what I did do, is that at installing time I only configed eth1 and omitted eth0 in order to avoid possible conflicts [04:14] ah, ok, then it should run already [04:14] hehe, yes. After more than 30 diff tries, stopin, starting services I can manage well :D [04:15] me booting thin laptop now... let's see [04:15] heheh.. booting [04:15] great [04:15] :) [04:16] let's see once scripts finish if we can work [04:16] hmmm.... [04:16] * starting RAID.. [04:16] * calculating module dependencies [04:17] oopppps, a couple of warnings about LTSP [04:17] Fialure initializing /etc/net... [04:17] thats normal [04:17] I see an X, I see an X!!! [04:17] yahooooooooooooo [04:17] its caused by read only filesystem [04:18] username: [04:18] gooooogle!! [04:18] what username?? [04:19] the one you configured on install ? [04:19] or another one you created afterwards, as you like :) [04:19] oh, only that one, duh! [04:20] ogra, so, I could also install a lighter desktop and it all should run smoothly? [04:20] you lo in to the normal desktop session like you would if you were directly on the server, so all you do there will be reflected by it [04:20] sure [04:20] note that we start the default Xsessio... === mhz_ed wife's thought I had an accident because of the way I expressed my happines :D [04:21] you might have to uninstall other sessions... session selection is planned for next release only.. [04:21] no problem. So I could disable GDM and force users to use a preconfiged .xinitrc ?? [04:21] (or create a ~/.xsession file) [04:22] do that in ~/.xsession... not .xinitrc :) [04:22] and what you see is not gdm ;) [04:22] sdm [04:22] ldm ;) [04:22] close [04:22] ?dm :) [04:22] educool [04:23] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/ [04:23] ^^ has a preview and install instructions for the upcoming changes [04:23] ogra, let me say this: You have been doing a hell of a Job (literally) [04:23] thanks :) [04:23] it's pure truth [04:24] i still need fixes to go in that mdz doesnt allow currently... we're still fighting [04:24] i.e. PATH is wrong... [04:24] hence I insist: ."a hell of a job" [04:24] (no /usr/games... try to run a game) [04:24] :D [04:24] ogra: I did - no wesnoth :( [04:25] its there, just the patch is wrong :( [04:25] no such file [04:25] s/patch/path [04:25] :) [04:25] yes [04:25] all DMs set it on login, only ldm doesnt... mdz doesnt answer to my change request :( [04:26] anyways we can "speak in the dark" with him? [04:26] nah... [04:26] he just wants the *right* fix for that and thinks it should be done in ssh... i disagree, we have to fight this out ;) [04:27] what if he suddenly sufferen and accident? [04:27] why does he think it's sshs problem ? [04:27] then i'd take it over, but it would use its best developer and inventor :) [04:27] :D [04:28] because ssh should set the environment on login in his opinoin... [04:28] oh, by the way... yesterday, my DHCP server setting did not work thruough my dlink router. Today I booted via crossover rj45 [04:28] but all othr DMs set it before attempting to login in X so i think the same behavior is right for ldm and ssh === mhz_ed is gonna try boot using dlink in the middle [04:29] i have 4 switches between my client and server... shouldnt be an issue [04:31] I'd agree with you that ldm should set it. It is then consistent with all other DMs. If he disagrees - he should file a bug on the other DMs [04:31] hmmm, and how do I turned clients off? [04:32] mhz_ed: log out and power button [04:32] Yagisan, I did that but I get back to ldm [04:33] hold down power button for about 4 seconds [04:33] hehehehehe [04:33] oh, you mean "force them done" [04:33] oh, you mean "force them down [04:33] I'd like shutdown -h as a local app myself [04:33] yeah - force them down [04:33] at the ldm screen your not going to lose data [04:34] just pretend its DOS [04:35] i'll add a shutdown option to ldm in dapper [04:35] :( Nope, it won't boot using the dlink in between [04:35] not even dhcp passes [04:36] thats very strange [04:36] yes [04:36] you dont use the crosslik cable on to the router ? [04:36] s/on// [04:36] nnnnoooop [04:36] hehehe [04:37] try it, probably it helps ;) [04:37] no really, its quite strange [04:37] but it always worked ok [04:37] ah, but worked ok with no dhcp server set by then [04:38] could it be that my eth1 is sharing gw IP [04:38] oh, yes, you shouldnt run two in one net... except configured as repeating server [04:38] sahring = using [04:39] and how can I set 2 ips to same eth1 [04:40] ifconfig eth1:0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx [04:40] and add a route... [04:40] or is it eth1 = 192.168.0.2 and the router must have 192.168.0.1 [04:40] ? [04:40] what is the router ? a standalone one ? [04:40] router is dLink [04:41] and has a static ip ? [04:41] dunno [04:41] never touched it [04:41] i would give it 192.168.0.1 as static ip... [04:42] yep, and how? [04:42] doesnt it have a web interface to configure it ? [04:42] want me to google? [04:42] oh, i think it does [04:42] i mean, how do you configure to dial in with it ? [04:43] it has an Ip I can access and get to a web interface [04:43] but i ave never dialed in [04:43] so what does it route then ? [04:44] actually, now that you mention it, it's there to let me give other machines web access, only [04:44] like a HUB [04:50] ogra, current Motorola IPS Modem IP is 192.168.100.1 === mhz_ed still trying to get dlink ip [04:51] ogra, few minutes ago you suggested: ifconfig eth1:0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xx [04:51] aslo: and add a route.. [04:51] yes, if you need two IPs on one interface [04:52] eth1:0 is an alias for eth1 [04:52] by doing so, I can give eth1: ...1 and eth1:0 ...2 ? being 1 the gw and 2 the ip? [04:52] why ? [04:53] I need my clients to boot from server and have web acces, right? [04:54] you need your clients to boot from the server... nothing more or the clients... dont forget, you log in directly on the server [04:54] s/or/on/ [04:55] duh1!right [04:55] so if you have eth0->web & eth1->thin client network, you boot the client on eth1's network, lo in via ssh -X on the server and access the web through eth0 directly from there [04:55] s/lo/log/ [04:56] absolutely right [04:56] it all happens on the server, eth1 is only for low level stuff to the clients... [04:56] no routig required.... [04:56] uh, but then I forgot about my wife. [04:57] she uses MS [04:57] and is on the eth0 network ? === mhz_ed still can't convince her to see the light [04:57] she used to have static ip 192... and set 192...1 as gw so she go out [04:58] fine... [05:01] hmm, I am getting errors from this reps. deb http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse [05:01] deb-src http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse [05:01] heh, breezy-backports ??? [05:02] it was there and I said, why not? [05:02] I don't want it? [05:02] from where should they come ? a vaporware archive ? [05:03] there is nothing from where you could backport something to breezy yet ;) [05:03] LOL === mhz_ed commenting hose lines === mhz_ed reading alittle [05:08] ogra - well *cough* *cough* I have some breezy-backports :) [05:09] Yagisan, from which dapper did you get it :p ? 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[11:45] i am using the image http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/edubuntu/5.10/edubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso === KingBahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === hno73 [n=hno73@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [11:55] crimsun: ping [11:56] I've put up a test of the new wiki skin at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ [11:56] anyone want to test? [11:56] (anyone else around this late on a Saturday? :) ) [11:58] well.... [11:58] second try [12:00] hno73, hey, nice to see you, long time. [12:00] mhz_ed: hey! [12:00] want to test my new wiki skin? :) [12:00] of course! been waiting for it [12:00] how are things? [12:00] better [12:01] lot better [12:01] :) [12:01] so go to the main wiki, and select the edubuntu skin [12:01] but still no money, just volunteering [12:01] good [12:01] right === mhz_ed login in === hno73 crosses his fingers [12:03] hehehe, I had forgot password :( duh!