[12:27] <amu> Riddell: http://amu.homelinux.org/tmp/kdepim_3.4.3-0ubuntu1_i386.build
[12:27] <amu> any idea? 
[12:34] <jmg> guys
[12:35] <jmg> amu: which is more important at this stage? 3.4 testing?
[12:35] <jmg> i should downgrade
[12:41] <amu> i would say 3.4.3 soon as it possible, 3.5b1 isnt a real release
[12:41] <jmg> amu: i upgraded but the bugs are annoying me
[12:42] <jmg> amu: because they are all already fixed in breezy
[12:42] <jmg> amu: some of them by me which makes it especially frustrating
[12:42] <jmg> amu: so im going to try and downgrade to 3.4.3
[12:42] <jmg> well, whatever is in breezy main
[12:43] <amu> sure, everthing depends how much are those packages tested, and bugchecked while building
[12:43] <jmg> amu: yeah
[12:43] <jmg> amu: im gonna get as much as i can before release
[12:43] <jmg> amu: stomp as many bugs :)
[12:44] <jmg> amu: expect patches
[12:44] <amu> jmg: if you have time for a good build, with a crosscheck and a special audience with some kde gurus, the quality will be good, if there's a real pressure, well we`re all humans and make mistakes 
[12:46] <amu> if you ask me about it, 3.43 for breezy is a real risk, you cannot package everything in such short time with an medium of bugs, probably you close some existing with a new version, but you dont know you open with it 10 new bugs 
[12:46] <jmg> amu: need regression testing
[12:46] <jmg> amu: check all filed bugs
[12:47] <jmg> amu: but also use 
[12:47] <jmg> amu: fo instance, i hope you use kmail, korganiser, etc
[12:48] <amu> jmg: theorethically right, there isnt enough manpower for a such tests in this short time ( before the release )  
[12:49] <amu> jmg: yes, somethimes, 50% kmail, 50% apple's mail
[12:49] <amu> :D
[12:57] <amu> I would say if you want help, test nativ breezy without any adds
[06:28] <jmg> hey guys
[10:30] <amu> jmg: did you found any problems?  
[10:37] <jmg> amu: still building
[10:37] <jmg> :(
[10:39] <jmg> i think i need a new laptop already
[10:40] <jmg> celery 2.6 suddenly no bood
[10:40] <jmg> good*
[10:40] <jmg> amu:im up to korganiser
[12:08] <amu> jmg: great, your source is from 3.5 or 3.5 or 3.4 tree ? 
[12:24] <jmg> amu: 3.5
[12:40] <jmg> faileed
[12:40] <jmg> :(
[12:40] <jmg> after all that time failed building the deb :(
[02:04] <amu> :D 
[07:44] <pef> Riddell: hello, have you looked at kvpnc ?
[08:29] <Riddell> pef: nope, but I'll do that now (give me a poke in an hour if I don't
[08:29] <pef> Riddell: ok, thanks ;)
[08:35] <Riddell> amu: I got kdepim built
[08:35] <Riddell> amu: not sure what happened to you, looks like it isn't linking against qt
[09:01] <Riddell> kvpnc went into kdereview today
[09:02] <Riddell> pef: the link on http://home.gna.org/kvpnc/en/index.html to the .deb is wrong
[09:02] <pef> Riddell: that's why I ask you to check kvpnc, if included into Breezy this links will be useless :)
[09:03] <pef> Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=712
[09:03] <pef> Riddell: what is kdereview ? news website ? ml ?
[09:05] <Riddell> pef: a module in KDE SVN for stuff that will go into kde one day
[09:05] <Riddell> pef: the link on the website goes to an RPM
[09:06] <pef> Riddell: yes, but if kvpnc-0.8 get packaged, I can tell the author to remove this link, useless since kvpnc packaged and available using apt-get
[09:07] <Riddell> get-orig-source:  interesting rule therer
[09:09] <pef> Riddell: only way to get a clean upstream tarball :/
[09:09] <pef> and upstream author manage his own debian/changelog, so I have to delete it
[09:09] <Riddell> pef: this doesn't compile for me
[09:09] <Riddell> make[4] : *** No rule to make target `config.log', needed by `index.cache.bz2'.  Stop.
[09:10] <Riddell> pef: also version number should be -0ubuntu1
[09:11] <pef> mmm checking
[09:11] <Riddell> http://olwin.free.fr/  whu?
[09:11] <Riddell> EasyKubuntu
[09:12] <pef> Riddell: tool to install restricted packages to have java, mp3 support, flash player, etc
[09:12] <Riddell> interesting
[09:13] <pef> Riddell: fork of EasyUbuntu, same purpose
[09:22] <pef> Riddell: do many people work on Kubuntu ? I see really often mainly your work
[09:40] <pef> Riddell: mm builds fine for me, into pbuilder too :/
[09:42] <Riddell> I'll try in a pbuilder
[09:49] <Riddell> pef: nope, still fails
[09:49] <Riddell> pef: are you using the sources from revu?
[09:49] <pef> no
[09:50] <Riddell> try them :)
[10:01] <pef> Riddell: the config.log depends seems to be an error from an autogenerated thing :/
[10:02] <pef> I love autotools-dev stuff :] 
[10:46] <pef> Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=752 i think it's ok ;)
[11:00] <jmg> morning guys
[11:01] <jmg> pef: Riddell is kubuntu rm
[11:01] <jmg> ref: and sometimes it seems like he is the only one coding on it :)
[11:02] <jmg> Riddell: i really need a faster laptop! i was compiling kdepim svn last night and it took for ever
[11:02] <pef> jmg: what does "rm" means ?
[11:02] <jmg> pef: release manager
[11:02] <pef> jmg: thank you :)
[11:02] <jmg> pef: the man with the biggest hat
[11:02] <pef> jmg: can't you use distcc ?
[11:02] <jmg> pef: but im on my laptop
[11:03] <jmg> pef: suppose i should set up openvpn to my build box yes
[11:24] <Riddell> pef: kvpnc compiles but crashes when run
[11:26] <Riddell> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
[11:26] <Riddell>   what():  St9bad_alloc
[11:26] <Riddell> KCrash: Application 'kvpnc' crashing...
[11:26] <Riddell> with vpnc installed
[11:28] <jmg> is polymer anywhere in kubuntu?
[11:29] <Riddell> jmg: what's that?
[11:29] <jmg> Riddell: theme
[11:29] <jmg> Riddell: highest rated on kde-look
[11:29] <Riddell> URL?
[11:29] <jmg> Riddell: im debianising it now if it hasnt been done already
[11:30] <jmg> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=27968
[11:31] <Riddell> jmg: http://mirror.pusling.com/debian/unstable/
[11:40] <jmg> Riddell: work on kubuntu?
[11:41] <jmg> or do they need to be rebuilt
[11:42] <Riddell> jmg: they will need to be rebuilt
[11:42] <Riddell> please do investigate
[11:42] <jmg> Riddell:ok
[11:45] <Riddell> ddddddddddd[A[A[B[Bj	dddd
[11:45] <Riddell> oops, sorry
[11:45] <jmg> cat
[11:45] <Riddell> jmg: test that they work and upload to REVU
[11:47] <jmg> Riddell: dont i need an account or something
[11:51] <Riddell> jmg: yes, ask sirtat
[11:51] <Riddell> I think it is
[12:00] <pef> Riddell: crash with upstream packages or source :/
[12:01] <Riddell> pef: from source build
[12:02] <pef> Riddell: yes
[12:02] <pef> I'm trying cvs
[12:02] <jmg> Riddell: hmm panel doesnt seem to be obeying colors
[12:02] <jmg> neither is systray or clock
[12:02] <jmg> any ideas?