| tucoz | Is it possible to install kubuntu using a net installer? | 12:02 |
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| _rene | do you have 2 cd roms? | 12:04 |
| tucoz | no, unfortunatley | 12:04 |
| tucoz | I have a laptop | 12:04 |
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| _rene | ah | 12:04 |
| tucoz | This must be something with the debian installer, as the same happens when I tried debian a while back. | 12:05 |
| menyx | Hi, How can remount a vfat partition with a umask diferent to the one that is on the fstab without the need to reboot? | 12:06 |
| menyx | doing "mount -o remount" after changing the umask in the fstab doesn't work | 12:06 |
| tucoz | It might work to install using another partition, but I do not know how this is made. I.e. put the installer on another partition | 12:06 |
| BlackDesert | anyboby knows how to start bittorrent.... :-( | 12:06 |
| BlackDesert | installation seems ok... | 12:07 |
| tucoz | BlackDesert: what do you mean? bittorrent terminal client? | 12:07 |
| _rene | tucoz, for floppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WithFloppies?highlight=%28install%29 | 12:07 |
| tucoz | _rene: No floppy :( | 12:07 |
| phoenixbyrd | BlackDesert: Use Azureus for bittorrent | 12:07 |
| _rene | tucoz, for netboot: | 12:08 |
| _rene | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot?highlight=%28install%29 | 12:08 |
| _rene | ah, no floppy | 12:08 |
| BlackDesert | OK now i downld azureus...i try... | 12:08 |
| _rene | sorry | 12:08 |
| tucoz | _rene: thanks for the links. I might be able to work something out. | 12:09 |
| libben | why am i getting 1.8 mbit second from my dvd rom? i have dma on | 12:14 |
| libben | atleast it says its on | 12:14 |
| libben | sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom | 12:14 |
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| delltony | question for some reason now after doing an apt-get upgrade i get kmix coming up on startup and putting this big annoying Volume dialog in the center of the screen. It will not go away and I have no idea what the process id is to kill it i did a pgrep kmix and killed that id but it didn't resolve the problem | 12:19 |
| delltony | if you have any idea how to fix this it would be great cause i can't really use the pc cause i can't see anything cause the volume dialog keeps focus | 12:19 |
| mrplant | instaling | 12:20 |
| mrplant | kde 3.5b | 12:20 |
| mrplant | pray... | 12:20 |
| mrplant | 4me | 12:21 |
| delltony | dammmmmmmmmmmn it Volume dialog go away so i can use my pc | 12:22 |
| BlackDesert | praying...louder PRAYING.... | 12:23 |
| gdh | delltony: ever considered a career in software testing? | 12:23 |
| Tm_T | =) | 12:23 |
| Tm_T | sleep -> | 12:23 |
| gdh | ooh a career in sleep :) | 12:23 |
| gdh | Tm_T++ | 12:23 |
| delltony | now thats thought | 12:24 |
| delltony | sleep specialist | 12:24 |
| delltony | :) | 12:24 |
| libben | why am i getting 1.8 mbit second from my dvd rom? i have dma on | 12:25 |
| libben | atleast it says its on | 12:25 |
| libben | sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom | 12:25 |
| gdh | libben: We heard you the first time. No answer = we don't know. | 12:25 |
| frank23 | test | 12:26 |
| gdh | frank23: arf | 12:26 |
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| delltony | riddell where you at man? | 12:28 |
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| mrplant | 94% kde 3.5 beta | 12:34 |
| mrplant | if i won't be back in 15minutes | 12:34 |
| mrplant | ... then don't install kde 3.5 beta ;d | 12:34 |
| BlackDesert | :-) | 12:34 |
| BlackDesert | byez | 12:35 |
| mrplant | preconfiguring... | 12:35 |
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| mrplant | [bye] | 12:35 |
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| mrplant | ok reboot | 12:47 |
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| mrplant | kde 3.5b | 12:57 |
| mrplant | on board - works | 12:57 |
| mrplant | ;] | 12:57 |
| frank23 | does kde 3.5 work? | 12:57 |
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| mrplant | yep | 12:58 |
| mrplant | i had to force one thing but | 12:58 |
| frank23 | this is on breezy? | 12:58 |
| mrplant | its a common problem | 12:58 |
| frank23 | what did you force | 12:58 |
| mrplant | future1s | 12:58 |
| mrplant | asy36a | 12:58 |
| mrplant | oops | 12:58 |
| mrplant | not here lol | 12:58 |
| mrplant | wait. | 12:58 |
| tucoz | hi, do you know how I can disable the soundcard on boot. Breezy freezes in the boot process, when loading the "hotplug subsystem" | 12:59 |
| tucoz | It is my soundcard that is not detected properly | 12:59 |
| mrplant | i dont remember | 12:59 |
| mrplant | kdelibs | 12:59 |
| mrplant | there was some problem with them | 12:59 |
| mrplant | but i found the solution to | 12:59 |
| mrplant | force them | 12:59 |
| frank23 | after you forced it, does synaptic still say it's broken | 01:00 |
| mrplant | no | 01:01 |
| mrplant | ill try to show you the problem if i find that site again | 01:01 |
| mrplant | with the solution | 01:01 |
| mrplant | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/366506 | 01:02 |
| mrplant | had a similar problem | 01:02 |
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| mrplant | like the guy on these forums | 01:02 |
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| linuxzegnus | hola ? | 01:20 |
| linuxzegnus | hi ? | 01:20 |
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| logikal_ | I can't compile anything "\ | 01:26 |
| logikal_ | :\ | 01:26 |
| gdh | Then go back to Gentoo :) | 01:26 |
| logikal_ | something is messed up | 01:27 |
| logikal_ | when i do make install | 01:27 |
| logikal_ | it gives some error msg | 01:27 |
| logikal_ | http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/385963 | 01:28 |
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| gdh | Urg, qt compile pain | 01:29 |
| gdh | I steer well clear of that :) | 01:29 |
| Xorlev | logikal_: You need to run make install as root :P | 01:33 |
| logikal_ | ok | 01:34 |
| logikal_ | sudo make install ? | 01:34 |
| Xorlev | But the QT errors...have you tried compiling other QT apps? | 01:34 |
| logikal_ | well | 01:34 |
| logikal_ | I tried 3 different sources | 01:34 |
| logikal_ | 3 different themes | 01:34 |
| logikal_ | 3 tar.gzs, they all gave same error on make install | 01:35 |
| Xorlev | Try sudo make install, but there seems to be another error up there though. | 01:35 |
| Xorlev | make[3] : *** [crystalclient.lo] Error 1 | 01:35 |
| logikal_ | here | 01:36 |
| logikal_ | let me show you more detailed | 01:37 |
| logikal_ | I just did make clean | 01:37 |
| logikal_ | then i did sudo make | 01:37 |
| logikal_ | http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/386692 | 01:37 |
| Xorlev | logikal_: You might ask in #kde | 01:39 |
| logikal_ | ok | 01:40 |
| phoenixbyrd | how do I get gnome desktop? | 01:40 |
| logikal_ | gnome comes with ubuntu | 01:40 |
| phoenixbyrd | I'm using kubuntu | 01:40 |
| logikal_ | when you go to login, select session and change to gnome | 01:40 |
| logikal_ | on the login screen | 01:40 |
| logikal_ | do ctrl+alt+backspace and select session, and gnome | 01:40 |
| phoenixbyrd | gnome get's installed with kubuntu preiview install? | 01:41 |
| logikal_ | it should | 01:41 |
| phoenixbyrd | k | 01:41 |
| logikal_ | if not go to "Synpatic Package Manager" | 01:41 |
| logikal_ | or not | 01:41 |
| Xorlev | Err, ubuntu-desktop (gnome) doesn't come with kubuntu :P | 01:43 |
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| phoenixbyrd | it's not installed | 01:43 |
| logikal_ | well | 01:45 |
| phoenixbyrd | and lucky me, adept says break install | 01:45 |
| logikal_ | phoenixbyrd, go to synaptic package manager | 01:45 |
| logikal_ | and download gnome | 01:45 |
| phoenixbyrd | can't install it if adept says break install, kynaptic won't install it either :( | 01:46 |
| phoenixbyrd | is there anyway to fix those stupid break installs? | 01:47 |
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| Hobbsee | morning all | 02:49 |
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| andreas__ | hi! | 03:08 |
| andreas__ | I made a dist-upgrade yesterday and suddenly aterm felt very sluggish | 03:09 |
| andreas__ | anyone else experiencing the same? | 03:09 |
| andreas__ | switching to an old kernel didn't help | 03:09 |
| phoenixbyrd | hey, can anyone give me a hand in getting the reaplayer plugin for firefox working? | 03:09 |
| phoenixbyrd | andreas__: I haven't had any problems yet | 03:09 |
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| andreas__ | phoenixbyrd, I'm noticing it while moving and resizing aterms | 03:10 |
| andreas__ | I have show contents while moving/resizing enabled | 03:10 |
| phoenixbyrd | I don't even have aterm installed lol | 03:10 |
| andreas__ | :| | 03:11 |
| === andreas__ bites phoenixbyrd | ||
| phoenixbyrd | :O | 03:11 |
| Fiya_Brb | l | 03:13 |
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| Lord_Athur | hi | 03:14 |
| BlankB | lo | 03:14 |
| phoenixbyrd | hi | 03:14 |
| Lord_Athur | A question, What's nwe have kubuntu 5.10? | 03:15 |
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| phoenixbyrd | lots of nudidty | 03:15 |
| Lord_Athur | A question, What's nwe have kubuntu 5.10? a thing that kubuntu 5.04 does not have | 03:15 |
| Lord_Athur | What is it phoenixbyrd ? | 03:16 |
| phoenixbyrd | idk, I haven't used 5.04, I'm a kubuntu virgin | 03:16 |
| BlankB | openoffice 2 | 03:16 |
| BlankB | plus see: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/breezy-release-candidate.php | 03:17 |
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| Lord_Athur | BlankB, I have a computer with 500MHz in prossesor, 120 in memory and 10g in the heavy disk, Can I install kubuntu 5.10? | 03:18 |
| phoenixbyrd | realplayer plugin was a no go, and now the helix player is just a tease | 03:18 |
| BlankB | you can install it but it will not be very fast. | 03:18 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 03:19 |
| Lord_Athur | now I cannot use openoffice.org very well | 03:19 |
| Lord_Athur | I'll have to buy me a new PC | 03:20 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 03:20 |
| BlankB | openoffice uses a lot of resources. | 03:20 |
| Lord_Athur | yes | 03:20 |
| Lord_Athur | When I was using windows the word program (of microsoft) was faster than openoffice | 03:21 |
| BlankB | For slower machines there are alternative window manager other than KDE and Gnome that might be better. | 03:21 |
| phoenixbyrd | xfce4 I think, I like that w.e it's called | 03:22 |
| BlankB | You might try Koffice or one of the other word style programs for better performance. | 03:22 |
| Lord_Athur | What is the diference of koffice and openoffice= | 03:23 |
| Lord_Athur | ? | 03:23 |
| BlankB | I am not sure I have never used it. | 03:23 |
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| Lord_Athur | well I test the koffice program+ | 03:24 |
| BlankB | There is one other that I am trying to think of the name but cant remember what it was. | 03:24 |
| BlankB | I think it was called abiword | 03:25 |
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| Lord_Athur | I believe that Ubuntu and kubuntu have a bad sources list | 03:26 |
| Lord_Athur | yes is called abiword | 03:26 |
| Lord_Athur | but I cannot install it | 03:26 |
| Lord_Athur | the sources list does not have a web page for download the program with apt | 03:26 |
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| Lord_Athur | What should I do? | 03:27 |
| BlankB | I see what you mean. I just tried installing it without success. | 03:27 |
| dicrapio | hello all, | 03:27 |
| Lord_Athur | hi dicrapio | 03:28 |
| dicrapio | quick ques, whats the easiest way to make a deb file? | 03:28 |
| BlankB | did it give you an error about abiword-common? | 03:28 |
| Lord_Athur | yes | 03:28 |
| BlankB | That is the same problem I had. I am not sure what to do about that. | 03:29 |
| Lord_Athur | well I'm spanish and for this rezon the distribution send me the errors in Spanish :S | 03:29 |
| Lord_Athur | BlankB, We havo to search in the internet a list for chang the default list of kubuntu | 03:30 |
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| mrplant | "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "I can't configure Debian" | 03:31 |
| mrplant | i'm an ubuntu user but i love this quote ;d | 03:31 |
| mrplant | kubuntu to be precise | 03:31 |
| Lord_Athur | How can I see the prosses that my PC is doing? | 03:32 |
| Lord_Athur | for kill it? | 03:33 |
| BlankB | ctrl + escape | 03:33 |
| Lord_Athur | thanks | 03:34 |
| Lord_Athur | What happen when I kill something that is using the system? | 03:34 |
| BlankB | What do you mean? What is an example? | 03:35 |
| Lord_Athur | :D no, it was not | 03:35 |
| Lord_Athur | was a question | 03:35 |
| Lord_Athur | I am in the 15 years old and I do not know very well the English grammar, here all the person speak spanish and for this reazon maybe you Won't be able to understand me | 03:38 |
| Lord_Athur | :D | 03:39 |
| BlankB | Your english is better than my spanish. 8) | 03:39 |
| Lord_Athur | jajaja ok | 03:39 |
| phoenixbyrd | omfg, now all I gotta do is figure out my webcam crap and I can do everything I did in windows lmao | 03:39 |
| phoenixbyrd | gots my game, music videos... happy so far | 03:40 |
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| Lord_Athur | BlankB, can you use the floppy driver with kubuntu? | 03:40 |
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| BlankB | The floppy should show up under media:/ in konqueror | 03:40 |
| finn | never thought it would happen, i'd always been a kde user, but after 6 months of ubuntu, i'm struggling to find kde as easy to use as gnome | 03:42 |
| Lord_Athur | yes | 03:42 |
| mrplant | phoenixbyrd: what games do you play under ubuntu? | 03:42 |
| Lord_Athur | but I can't write or see the floppy disk | 03:42 |
| mrplant | i recommend the native game Battle for Wesnoth if you haven't tried it yet :) | 03:42 |
| phoenixbyrd | secondlife, americas army and enemy territory | 03:42 |
| mrplant | i don't know second life, gotta check it | 03:42 |
| phoenixbyrd | secondlife actually runs better, install it with wine and run it with winex3 | 03:43 |
| phoenixbyrd | *runs better then it did in windows | 03:43 |
| phoenixbyrd | everyone around me complains about lag and I just sit there and smile :) | 03:43 |
| BlankB | what is winex3? | 03:44 |
| phoenixbyrd | a different version of wine? idk, the ppl on the secondlife forum said to use that for secondlife | 03:44 |
| mrplant | second life | 03:45 |
| mrplant | is an online world right? | 03:45 |
| mrplant | but its not free :( | 03:45 |
| mrplant | then ill pass | 03:45 |
| phoenixbyrd | yea, it's more like a giant 3d chat room | 03:45 |
| mrplant | winex3 is cedega i think | 03:45 |
| phoenixbyrd | it's free, for a basic account | 03:45 |
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| mrplant | oh | 03:45 |
| phoenixbyrd | u might need a credit card to set the account up, but basic accounts are free now | 03:46 |
| phoenixbyrd | I had to pay for mine lol | 03:46 |
| m_tadeu | mee too | 03:46 |
| phoenixbyrd | what's ur name on sl? | 03:46 |
| mrplant | phoenixbyrd if you like | 03:46 |
| mrplant | mmorpgs | 03:46 |
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| mrplant | you can check planeshift.it | 03:47 |
| mrplant | it runs natively under linux | 03:47 |
| phoenixbyrd | yea, I got that too, haven't really played it much yet | 03:47 |
| mrplant | (though i know SL is not MMORPG) | 03:47 |
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| mrplant | and i encourage everybody to try wesnoth, i got hooked recently though ive watched the game developing for like 2 years;] | 03:49 |
| mrplant | if you like strategy games | 03:49 |
| mrplant | i can't register on SL cause i don't have a real credit card (only for transactions in my country) :( | 03:50 |
| phoenixbyrd | what country? | 03:50 |
| mrplant | poland | 03:50 |
| mrplant | k, its time to sleep | 03:50 |
| mrplant | goodbye guys. | 03:50 |
| phoenixbyrd | night | 03:50 |
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| dicrapio | has anyone tried to install knemo? i get an error saying there sopme files from knetworkconf installed (mostly icons) so knemo wont install | 03:56 |
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| dicrapio | any thoughts? | 03:57 |
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| zaki | ? | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | ?? | 04:18 |
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| Cheapie | hmm, apparently i can't format or write to my floppy | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | does the floppy work, or is it a dead floppy? | 04:21 |
| Cheapie | oh, the floppy is fine | 04:23 |
| Cheapie | i've tried two floppies | 04:24 |
| Cheapie | and the floppy drive is also properly working | 04:24 |
| Cheapie | kfloppy whines "Unexpected density number 0." | 04:24 |
| Cheapie | apparently my windows ntldr was on hdb | 04:26 |
| Cheapie | and i installed slax over that | 04:26 |
| Cheapie | (slax has no grub or lilo) | 04:26 |
| Cheapie | and grub installed on hda | 04:26 |
| Cheapie | and can't boot windows because i goofed up installing slax over | 04:27 |
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| Cheapie | so i'm attempting some crazy bootdisk recovery stuff by fdisk -mbr and such, as well as going to the recovery console as well | 04:27 |
| Cheapie | for win2k | 04:27 |
| pyth3r | hi all | 04:27 |
| Cheapie | as well | 04:27 |
| Cheapie | though i can't create a grub disk because kde don't like my floppy drive for some wierd reason | 04:28 |
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| jmg | ok guess i cant downgrade | 04:45 |
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| kkathman | evening all :) | 04:47 |
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| frank23 | where is the repo for kde 3.5beta | 04:52 |
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| frank23 | and is it safe to use it^ | 04:53 |
| kkathman | frank23: what version are you on right now? | 04:54 |
| frank23 | 3.4.2 | 04:54 |
| kkathman | 3.5 I think is still beta, of course, which means that you use it knowing that there may be bugs | 04:54 |
| frank23 | I know | 04:54 |
| frank23 | is it possible to revert to kde 3.4.2 if there are problems? | 04:55 |
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| kkathman | I'd say that you probably could, by doing an uninstall, then possibly reinstalling the version your have | 05:00 |
| phoenixbyrd | how do I run gnomoradio? | 05:00 |
| phoenixbyrd | nvm | 05:00 |
| frank23 | kkathman: ok.. thanks | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | frank23: 3.5 beta seems very stable | 05:03 |
| frank23 | Can I ask someone to try something for me?? The keyboard map that I want is not working but all the others seem to be working. | 05:03 |
| frank23 | If someone can try and use Canada(Multilingual), it would be great! | 05:04 |
| jsubl2 | Hobbsee: show me your apt sources line for 3.5 | 05:04 |
| Hobbsee | #KDE 3.5 Beta | 05:04 |
| Hobbsee | #deb http://kubuntu.org/kde35beta1 breezy main | 05:04 |
| Hobbsee | deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/3.5-beta1/kubuntu breezy main | 05:04 |
| Hobbsee | the first one wasnt working yesterday, and i havent uncommented it | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | can i run both uncommented without a problem? | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | seeing as they would be getting the same packages | 05:05 |
| jsubl2 | thank you | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | no problems | 05:05 |
| jsubl2 | i use to have riddell's key so you did not get the gpg error | 05:06 |
| jsubl2 | but lost it. | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | it's back on the site | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | but the mirror apparently works fine | 05:07 |
| jsubl2 | k thanks | 05:07 |
| frank23 | kubuntu.org seems to be working | 05:07 |
| Hobbsee | http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php | 05:07 |
| Hobbsee | key is off there | 05:07 |
| apokryphos | what's the error? | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | the gpg error for not having riddell's key | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | when upgrading to 3.5 beta | 05:08 |
| jsubl2 | the key fixed it. updating. | 05:09 |
| apokryphos | you didn't follow the instructions then :) | 05:09 |
| apokryphos | oh ok, cool. | 05:09 |
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| jsubl2 | apt-key add ~jsubl2/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | apokryphos: well it was a little hard to point people to the key when it wasnt on the site a day or so ago... | 05:10 |
| jsubl2 | getting 316kb from mirrorservice | 05:10 |
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| delltony | hey riddell you around? | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | he's been idle for 18 mins, so maybe | 05:12 |
| jsubl2 | got to be 4 am or so in uk | 05:12 |
| delltony | good hopefully i can get his help on an issue i'm having with kmix | 05:13 |
| Hobbsee | delltony: what's your issue? | 05:13 |
| delltony | anyone else besides me getting this annoying Volume dialog box in the center of the screen | 05:13 |
| jsubl2 | with what app | 05:13 |
| delltony | that simply will not go away regardless of how many times i kill -9 kmix | 05:13 |
| jsubl2 | with 3.5 beta or 3.4.2 kde | 05:14 |
| jsubl2 | brb | 05:14 |
| delltony | well i'm assuming its kmix | 05:15 |
| delltony | thats the only thing i know of hat i have installed on here for volume that appears to be running | 05:15 |
| delltony | i can make a screenshot if needed | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | probably useful | 05:15 |
| delltony | let me look on the kde build | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | then someone can tell you if it is kmix or not | 05:15 |
| delltony | yeah hang on a sec | 05:15 |
| delltony | 3.4.2 on kde | 05:16 |
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| delltony | and let me make the screenshot hang on | 05:17 |
| delltony | http://www.imageark.net/img.php?id=132342 | 05:17 |
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| Hobbsee | that doesnt look like the standard kmix... | 05:18 |
| Hobbsee | you've presumably tried xkill and clicked on it | 05:19 |
| delltony | yeah already tried that | 05:19 |
| delltony | doesn't do anything | 05:19 |
| jsubl2 | does sound work | 05:19 |
| delltony | yeah | 05:19 |
| delltony | sound and all is fine | 05:19 |
| delltony | its just this dialog will not go away | 05:20 |
| Hobbsee | tried restarting x? | 05:20 |
| delltony | yep | 05:20 |
| Hobbsee | mmm...bummer | 05:20 |
| delltony | even did a dis-upgrade and all | 05:20 |
| delltony | to see if it was a fixed bug | 05:20 |
| delltony | wish there was a way to tell what actually id/process this thing belongs to | 05:21 |
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| delltony | :( | 05:24 |
| snausages | has anyone gotten airport to work on 5.10? | 05:24 |
| delltony | just curious going on the description in the apt-cache show is adept like synaptic? | 05:26 |
| jsubl2 | adept is much nicer | 05:26 |
| Hobbsee | !airport | 05:27 |
| ubotu | Hobbsee: I don't know, could you explain it? | 05:27 |
| delltony | but the same logic? | 05:27 |
| delltony | as in its a package manager | 05:27 |
| jsubl2 | heh i like it and i did not like kynaptic.. that is all i know | 05:28 |
| delltony | i hear you i hate kynaptic | 05:29 |
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| delltony | i'm a apt guy myself | 05:29 |
| Hobbsee | kynaptic...yes...made me install synaptic as one of the first steps | 05:29 |
| Hobbsee | adept's nice though | 05:29 |
| delltony | anyone here have a motorola phone? | 05:29 |
| jsubl2 | adept is nice enough i don't need synaptic | 05:29 |
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| delltony | reason i say is i was thinking about doing a deb build of moto4lin using checkinstall | 05:29 |
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| === delltony gonna restart session to try and get rid of annoyinig dialog box brb | ||
| Hobbsee | jsubl2: well neither do i now, but i didnt know what adept was until after i had grabbed firefox and synaptic | 05:31 |
| [Relic] | do most tv tuner cards work? | 05:31 |
| [Relic] | finding little if anything on kworld cards | 05:32 |
| mekgp | ....taking an impromptu poll: Breezy ready to go? Yes or No? | 05:34 |
| jsubl2 | yes | 05:35 |
| jsubl2 | kubuntu is rather | 05:35 |
| jsubl2 | no idea about the gnome side | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | mekgp: you looking to dist upgrade or upgrade from cd? | 05:36 |
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| delltony | any update on this volume thing yet? | 05:38 |
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| delltony | huston we have a problem come in riddell :) | 05:49 |
| delltony | houston even | 05:49 |
| jsubl2 | almost 5am in uk | 05:49 |
| delltony | cool he should be sobbering up around this time | 05:50 |
| jsubl2 | i was thinking sleepin. | 05:50 |
| delltony | i was only joking | 05:50 |
| jsubl2 | delltony: you on hoary or breezy | 05:50 |
| delltony | hey wonder what this dialog box goes to | 05:50 |
| delltony | i'm on breezy | 05:50 |
| jsubl2 | kubuntu | 05:51 |
| delltony | yeah | 05:51 |
| jsubl2 | or ubuntu | 05:51 |
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| jsubl2 | damn i just loaded from a cd only a week old.. i am not see that | 05:51 |
| delltony | see wha? | 05:51 |
| jsubl2 | did u post a link to pastebin | 05:51 |
| satafterh | any pro's in here answer a question | 05:52 |
| delltony | satafterh, just ask and if we know we will help | 05:52 |
| jsubl2 | delltony: see the thing in the middle of the screen | 05:52 |
| delltony | jsubl2, i posted the image link | 05:52 |
| jsubl2 | i was rebooting into kde 3.5 | 05:52 |
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| delltony | you need the link again or something? just curious | 05:53 |
| jsubl2 | yes | 05:53 |
| delltony | alright | 05:53 |
| jsubl2 | scroll up copy/paste | 05:53 |
| delltony | http://www.imageark.net/img.php?id=132342 | 05:53 |
| jsubl2 | kmix don't show a screen like that i don't think | 05:54 |
| delltony | yeah but what else could it be | 05:54 |
| delltony | i haven't installed anything other than doing a apt-get update and upgrade | 05:54 |
| delltony | and apt-get dist-upgrade | 05:54 |
| delltony | from a fresh breezy iso | 05:54 |
| delltony | well i installed mplayer | 05:55 |
| satafterh | I am new to linux, i installed both ubuntu and kubuntu to see which one suits me best. i have decided to go with kubuntu(more eye candy lol) i want to uninstall unbuntu and every app that it installed as my kubuntu menu is cluttered with unbuntu app have can i unistall only ubuntu app asided from doing it one by one? | 05:55 |
| jsubl2 | smoke break | 05:56 |
| delltony | sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop shold fix you up | 05:56 |
| delltony | that should remove all the gnome associated stuff if i remember correctly | 05:56 |
| satafterh | thanks i will try it | 05:57 |
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| satafterh | if that doesnt work, anything with gnome in kpackage should be safe to remove?? | 06:00 |
| Hobbsee | um...should be, depending on what else it tries to remove as well | 06:01 |
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| Hobbsee | OOo 1.9.129 has just gone into the reps.... | 06:01 |
| Hobbsee | for breezy, that is | 06:02 |
| Jakk | I came here to basically say that the new release is so kickass It feels like a renewed faith in KDE | 06:02 |
| delltony | Hobbsee, you thnk this dialog might be part of gstreamer? | 06:02 |
| Hobbsee | delltony: got no idea, i've never seen it before | 06:02 |
| delltony | jakk the new kde beta or kubuntu? | 06:02 |
| satafterh | what is OO0 1,9.129? | 06:02 |
| Hobbsee | openoffice.org | 06:02 |
| Hobbsee | we had 1.9.125 in the repositories before | 06:03 |
| Jakk | delltony: Kubuntu, I always loved the project from its first release and I knew about it, then decided that KDE was over bloated with CRAP and decided to go FreeBSD and look for light weight window managers like Enlightenment | 06:03 |
| delltony | yeah kubuntu is sweet | 06:04 |
| delltony | if ii could just figure out why i got this freaking dialog box on here id be all good | 06:04 |
| jsubl2 | delltony.. terminate all apps one at a time including ones in the systray | 06:04 |
| Jakk | delltony: All Hail! XD, But for me the only sorrowsome part is that it's not BSD :( cries**, but the devs at Ubuntu pull some pretty amazing stuff | 06:04 |
| jsubl2 | i bet that aint from kmix | 06:04 |
| Jakk | Linux just got Lethal, Hail Kubuntu =D | 06:05 |
| jsubl2 | delltony keep right clicking on desktop and select refresh desktop | 06:06 |
| delltony | anyone know what the command is for gstreamer i gotta feeling this is a gstreamer dialog | 06:07 |
| jsubl2 | delltony: did you try the command xprop and clicking on that volume dialog | 06:07 |
| jsubl2 | type gst and then hit tab key | 06:07 |
| jsubl2 | gst-register-0.8 is a good command to run | 06:09 |
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| delltony | ok let me try that | 06:19 |
| delltony | this thing is freakin pissing me off | 06:21 |
| delltony | if i only knew the id number id kill it | 06:21 |
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| jmg | hey guys | 06:28 |
| Jakk | anyone know if Toshiba laptops or HP laptops are more compatible with linux? | 06:28 |
| jmg | any tips on downgrading from 3.5b1 to breezy packages | 06:28 |
| Hobbsee | Jakk: toshiba a10 satellite working fine here | 06:29 |
| Hobbsee | jmg: why do you want to? | 06:29 |
| Jakk | Bobosee: thanks :D | 06:31 |
| Jakk | I'm thinking about getting a tablet =D | 06:31 |
| Jakk | kindof not the same as a laptop, but hell it'll rule | 06:32 |
| jmg | hobbsee: have to 3.5b1 broken for me | 06:39 |
| Hobbsee | jmg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=365382&highlight=remove#post365382 | 06:40 |
| jmg | Hobbsee: i did it :) | 06:45 |
| jmg | back in breezy proper now | 06:45 |
| Hobbsee | :D | 06:45 |
| Hobbsee | how'd 3.5 break for you? | 06:45 |
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| catmeister | Hey, I'm having some difficulty with amarok. I have all engines installed. But, none are available for the admin user I created. Only arts and xine engines are available for the other 2 users. Group settings? | 06:59 |
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| catmeister | Anyone got any ideas? | 07:03 |
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| catmeister | Gargoylol, you know anything about amarok? | 07:08 |
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| catmeister | Hi, seth. | 07:09 |
| cyne | what's the prob catmeister | 07:09 |
| catmeister | Well, I have all engines installed. Gstreamer is not apearing in my 2 reg. users. Nothing is showing up in my admin user. | 07:10 |
| catmeister | Its more annoying than anything, xine engine works great and I can always just use amarok in one session and do admin work in another session. | 07:11 |
| catmeister | I got arts showing up in the admin user for a minute, but the arts engine locks up amarok when you load a stream. | 07:12 |
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| catmeister | I'm a long time slack user who just switched to kubuntu. There are some things that I prefer the way slack does things, but overall I have been VERY impressed. | 07:17 |
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| alyks | how can I install sawfish? | 07:18 |
| alyks | when I try to apt-get sawfish, it just says that the package has been removed | 07:18 |
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| catmeister | Have you added the universe package sets? | 07:20 |
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| catmeister | When is a better time to log in? | 07:23 |
| Hobbsee | a bette rtime to log in? | 07:24 |
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| kkathman | Hey Hobbsee :) | 07:35 |
| Hobbsee | hey :) | 07:36 |
| kkathman | did you do your breezy install yet? | 07:36 |
| kkathman | I have been busy today so I havent had a chance to try to burn the ISO with Nero | 07:36 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 07:38 |
| Hobbsee | i installed it a coupel of days ago | 07:38 |
| Hobbsee | finally got my sound to work too | 07:38 |
| kkathman | great!! | 07:39 |
| kkathman | what was the deal with the sound? | 07:39 |
| kkathman | Im still trying to figure out on my Win box how to get Nero to burn an ISO...I have always used Disk Juggler, so I have to learn a new proggie. | 07:40 |
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| Hobbsee | had to mute the headphone jack sense and the line jack sense | 07:40 |
| Hobbsee | after that, works like a charm | 07:40 |
| Hobbsee | happens with this intel integrated sound card every few kernel updates | 07:40 |
| Hobbsee | there's a option in the menu to burn as image | 07:40 |
| Hobbsee | let me go check, if the other comp is on | 07:40 |
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| Hobbsee | nope, it's not | 07:41 |
| rr | hi all | 07:41 |
| Hobbsee | kkathman: http://www.wizardskeep.org/mainhall/tutor/neroiso.html | 07:42 |
| Hobbsee | hi rr | 07:42 |
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| rr | I have a kwifimanager question, about the enable at startup script, could some1 help? | 07:42 |
| haffe | Hello. | 07:42 |
| haffe | I'm thinking about upgrading to kubuntu 5.10, is it stable enough to do this? | 07:42 |
| rr | btw I downloaded kubuntu 10 rc and it's awesome so far | 07:43 |
| Hobbsee | haffe: sure | 07:43 |
| Hobbsee | running kubuntu 5.10 here now | 07:43 |
| Hobbsee | rr that it is | 07:43 |
| Hobbsee | got no idea about kiwifimanager, but what's the question? | 07:43 |
| haffe | Ok, I tried the beta back at Colony 1. That was not a smoth ride :) | 07:43 |
| Hobbsee | eek | 07:44 |
| Hobbsee | it wouldnt be | 07:44 |
| Hobbsee | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20051008/ is where teh most recent cd's are | 07:44 |
| rr | when I startup the kwifimngr doesn't load the "/sbin/dhclient" script to start dhcp, I have to manually activate, I'm sure this has something to do with user privilages | 07:45 |
| haffe | I guess just changing hoary to breezy in sources.list and doing a dist-upgrade won't work? | 07:46 |
| seth_k|lappy | haffe, yes, that will work fine | 07:46 |
| Hobbsee | rr: well who's it owned by? | 07:46 |
| logikal | hey Hobbsee | 07:47 |
| Hobbsee | hi logikal :) | 07:47 |
| rr | I mean without root user privilages, since dhclient can only run as root | 07:47 |
| logikal | what's up? =) | 07:47 |
| Hobbsee | preface it with sudo, and it should run | 07:48 |
| gargoylol | i know nothing of amarok, im an xmmser | 07:48 |
| logikal | Still haven't gotten things to compile right Hobbsee | 07:48 |
| rr | I'll try that, I was thinking it needed something like that but with extra characters or so | 07:48 |
| Hobbsee | logikal :( i was trying to compile firefox beta 2 earlier...that didnt work either | 07:48 |
| logikal | compiling things seems anal retentative | 07:49 |
| logikal | :\ | 07:49 |
| rr | has anyone tried Opera browser? | 07:49 |
| logikal | seems a bit rough | 07:49 |
| Hobbsee | rr: yes | 07:49 |
| Hobbsee | lol yeah, it's a pain in the neck i find | 07:49 |
| Hobbsee | so i try and avoid it like the plague | 07:49 |
| Hobbsee | rr: works really nicely | 07:49 |
| rr | I tried it on XP, but I'm wondering if it would work as good in kde | 07:50 |
| logikal | it does | 07:50 |
| Hobbsee | rr: yeah, seems to work pretty well | 07:51 |
| Hobbsee | i always get an error about it not having found a plugin though, havent looked at that much yet | 07:51 |
| rr | is it availble through apt-get? | 07:51 |
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| Hobbsee | um, not sure | 07:52 |
| Hobbsee | check for it, otherwise it's really simple installing the dev | 07:52 |
| logikal | what's the error hobbsee | 07:53 |
| logikal | Maybe I can help, since i've learned a lot about compiling things.. | 07:53 |
| Hobbsee | it cant find the plugin? i dont remember, i havent tried installing it again yet | 07:53 |
| Hobbsee | doenst seem to matter | 07:53 |
| logikal | how easy are RPMs? | 07:53 |
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| Hobbsee | using alien? havent tried it | 07:55 |
| logikal | heres my error | 07:55 |
| logikal | http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/386692 | 07:55 |
| Hobbsee | eek, no clu | 07:56 |
| Hobbsee | e | 07:56 |
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| Hobbsee | rr: otherwise, grab the static deb from the opera site, untar it, cd to the directory, and "sudo dpkg -i opera[hit tab] " | 08:06 |
| rr | oh I already downloaded the deb package, just haven't installed it yet | 08:07 |
| rr | I'm really fond of konqueror in kde, in XP Opera is the best for me | 08:07 |
| Hobbsee | rr: there's no reason why you cant run both, and pick and choose based on your mood :) | 08:08 |
| logikal | what do i do with a file named install-kde3.sh | 08:08 |
| logikal | ? | 08:08 |
| logikal | in a tar.gz | 08:08 |
| Hobbsee | you want to install kde3? | 08:08 |
| logikal | no it's a theme | 08:09 |
| logikal | im trying to install | 08:09 |
| Hobbsee | i couldnt tell you, but there are generally instructions on kde-look.org on how to install themes | 08:10 |
| rr | good point hobsee, I just like keeping my OS's lean, without many same purpose programs, but Opera does do many things different | 08:10 |
| Hobbsee | true | 08:10 |
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| rr | someone got libdvdcss working in breezy? | 08:13 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm...ought to try that | 08:13 |
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| rr | I would not work for me during ./configure | 08:14 |
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| rr | it | 08:14 |
| Hobbsee | you had to compile it? | 08:15 |
| Hobbsee | http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb looks to be the most recent, assumign that's from the right place | 08:16 |
| rr | yeah | 08:16 |
| rr | okay I had the same version, but as a .tar source instead | 08:18 |
| rr | downloading .deb now | 08:18 |
| Hobbsee | well that makes it harder :P | 08:18 |
| haffe | I wan't to backup my kmail mails and adressbook. How should I do that? | 08:19 |
| rr | do I use adept, "open with" | 08:19 |
| Hobbsee | haffe: their config will be in /home/user/.kde/ | 08:20 |
| Hobbsee | somewhere around there | 08:20 |
| Hobbsee | installed libdvdcss2 via deb, worked find | 08:20 |
| rr | oh it's under kubuntu package menu | 08:20 |
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| Hobbsee | *fine | 08:20 |
| Hobbsee | about ot test | 08:20 |
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| rr | seemed to install okay, going to test it now | 08:22 |
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| rr | wb hobbsee | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | ty | 08:31 |
| rr | having a bit of trouble with kaffeine laoding dvd, i'm going to restart and will bb in a while | 08:32 |
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| chx | Breezy is worse than Hoary :( | 08:40 |
| chx | there is a certain bug which was fixed in Hoary | 08:40 |
| chx | and now reappeared | 08:40 |
| Hobbsee | which bug was this? | 08:40 |
| chx | rotated desktop not resized correctly | 08:41 |
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| seth_k|lappy | is there a bugzilla bug for it? | 08:41 |
| seth_k|lappy | especially one which was already reported and resolved-fixed? | 08:41 |
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| seth_k|lappy | ah, there is | 08:42 |
| seth_k|lappy | 8674, resolved-fixed | 08:42 |
| chx | http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8674 | 08:43 |
| chx | yes resolved fixed | 08:43 |
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| rr | no luck | 08:43 |
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| chx | the menu looks like a funny belt in the middle of the screen | 08:43 |
| seth_k|lappy | chx, it was just resolved a month ago | 08:43 |
| Hobbsee | rr: darn | 08:43 |
| seth_k|lappy | so it wouldn't have been in Hoary | 08:44 |
| Hobbsee | i couldnt get it to work in hoary either | 08:44 |
| seth_k|lappy | ok | 08:44 |
| seth_k|lappy | comment in the bug and let 'em know :) | 08:44 |
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| chx | seth_k|lappy: it was in some Hoary update | 08:44 |
| seth_k|lappy | I'll reopen it once you've commented | 08:44 |
| chx | seth_k|lappy: or KDE beta? or dunno | 08:44 |
| haffe | Hmmm. It seems X11R7 didn't make it into breezy. :( | 08:45 |
| chx | updated | 08:46 |
| seth_k|lappy | okay, reopening | 08:46 |
| chx | seth_k|lappy: thanks a lot | 08:46 |
| seth_k|lappy | np | 08:47 |
| seth_k|lappy | brb | 08:47 |
| rr | dang Opera is not acting right | 08:48 |
| Hobbsee | rr: how so? | 08:49 |
| rr | page aren't loading complete like amazon, no images, and very slow | 08:49 |
| chx | rr: no such thing here | 08:49 |
| rr | also got a few errors during setup, something about motif couldn't load because it was missing | 08:50 |
| chx | oh | 08:50 |
| Hobbsee | yeah that's the error i get | 08:50 |
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| chx | rr: libmotif3 , multiverse I think | 08:50 |
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| Sebastian | Need help | 08:51 |
| Hobbsee | shoot | 08:51 |
| Sebastian | I was finally able t install kubuntu | 08:51 |
| Sebastian | i had to formatt my disk | 08:51 |
| Hobbsee | chx: couldnt find that in reps | 08:51 |
| Sebastian | and pay 20 dollars to reinstall window xp | 08:51 |
| Sebastian | but anyway | 08:52 |
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| Sebastian | i am on kubuntu right now | 08:52 |
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| Sebastian | how do i install firefox? | 08:52 |
| chx | Hobbsee: hmmm I found it somehow | 08:52 |
| Sebastian | i already downloaded it | 08:52 |
| Hobbsee | where did you download it from? | 08:52 |
| DragoonJ | does windows work after i install kubuntu? | 08:52 |
| Sebastian | from firefox's page | 08:52 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, you shouldn't do that | 08:52 |
| Hobbsee | nah, dont do that | 08:52 |
| chx | Hobbsee: I do not have special repositories... though it's possible it was just a deb from somewhere | 08:53 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, you should turn on the "universe" repository | 08:53 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, then install it using apt, the Ubuntu package system | 08:53 |
| chx | ii libmotif3 2.2.3-1 | 08:53 |
| Hobbsee | in a console, type "sudo apt-get install mozilla firefox", after turning on the universe repository | 08:53 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm, that's odd | 08:53 |
| chx | seth_k|lappy: is there a way to find out where a package came from? | 08:53 |
| Hobbsee | DragoonJ: if you do it correctly, yes | 08:53 |
| seth_k|lappy | chx, how so? like, from which repo? | 08:53 |
| Sebastian | ok | 08:53 |
| chx | seth_k|lappy: yes | 08:53 |
| Sebastian | so what do i do? | 08:53 |
| Sebastian | i already have the firefox installation file | 08:54 |
| seth_k|lappy | chx, not to my knowledge | 08:54 |
| Sebastian | but there's no .exe installer | 08:54 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, just delete it | 08:54 |
| seth_k|lappy | you don't want it | 08:54 |
| Sebastian | why? | 08:54 |
| Sebastian | i do want firefox | 08:54 |
| seth_k|lappy | because that's not how you install software in Ubuntu | 08:54 |
| Hobbsee | and you'll get it | 08:54 |
| Sebastian | i'm on kubuntu | 08:54 |
| DragoonJ | what do you mean by "correctly"? is it ok if i just run that normal install+ | 08:54 |
| seth_k|lappy | you use "apt", which handles installations for you | 08:54 |
| Sebastian | not ubuntu | 08:54 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, same thing | 08:54 |
| Sebastian | kde not gnome | 08:54 |
| chx | seth_k|lappy: there is! | 08:54 |
| chx | seth_k|lappy: apt-cache show | 08:54 |
| seth_k|lappy | chx, oo | 08:54 |
| chx | Hobbsee: Filename: pool/multiverse/o/openmotif/libmotif3_2.2.3-1_i386.deb | 08:54 |
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| chx | Hobbsee: i told you it's multiverse | 08:54 |
| Sebastian | ok | 08:55 |
| Sebastian | so i delete the file | 08:55 |
| Sebastian | brb | 08:55 |
| Hobbsee | !tell DragoonJ about dualboot | 08:55 |
| seth_k|lappy | ok | 08:55 |
| incubii | !libmotif | 08:55 |
| ubotu | incubii: Are you smoking crack? | 08:55 |
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| incubii | yep | 08:55 |
| incubii | lol | 08:55 |
| Hobbsee | chx: i'll check again | 08:55 |
| seth_k|lappy | incubii, like so: | 08:55 |
| seth_k|lappy | !info libmotif | 08:55 |
| chx | also, section Section: multiverse/libs | 08:55 |
| chx | !info libmotif | 08:55 |
| Sebastian | ok | 08:55 |
| Sebastian | back | 08:55 |
| Sebastian | what do i do now | 08:55 |
| seth_k|lappy | okay Sebastian | 08:56 |
| Sebastian | to install firefox | 08:56 |
| seth_k|lappy | open a terminal | 08:56 |
| seth_k|lappy | and type | 08:56 |
| Sebastian | what is a terminal | 08:56 |
| seth_k|lappy | kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:56 |
| Sebastian | i just JUST loaded kubuntu | 08:56 |
| chx | seth_k|lappy: thanks for reopening, bye! | 08:56 |
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| Sebastian | i've never used it | 08:56 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, click the "K Menu" | 08:56 |
| seth_k|lappy | go to System | 08:56 |
| seth_k|lappy | click Terminal Program (Konsole) | 08:56 |
| Sebastian | ok | 08:56 |
| Sebastian | what do i type? | 08:56 |
| seth_k|lappy | copy and paste that command I gave you above | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | DragoonJ: did you get teh link the bot sent you? | 08:56 |
| rr | are you saying uncomment the breezy universe links | 08:57 |
| DragoonJ | yep | 08:57 |
| rr | for libmotif | 08:57 |
| Sebastian | ok i did that | 08:57 |
| Sebastian | and typed enter | 08:57 |
| Sebastian | now | 08:57 |
| Sebastian | now what? | 08:57 |
| Hobbsee | DragoonJ: cool :) just make sure you dont accidently overwrite your windows partition, and you'll be fine | 08:57 |
| Sebastian | kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list ---that i pasted | 08:58 |
| Sebastian | adn pressed enter | 08:58 |
| Sebastian | and nothing happened | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | did it ask you for your password in a box? | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | or underneath where you typed? | 08:58 |
| Sebastian | no | 08:58 |
| rr | chx: gotta do update first right? | 08:59 |
| rr | oh he left | 08:59 |
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| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy: what do i do now? | 08:59 |
| seth_k_ | sorry Sebastian, got d/c | 08:59 |
| seth_k_ | okay, do you have a text editor with lots of text? | 08:59 |
| Sebastian | text editor? | 09:00 |
| Sebastian | theres open office | 09:00 |
| Sebastian | apparently | 09:00 |
| seth_k|lappy | no no | 09:00 |
| seth_k|lappy | it should have opened a text editor | 09:00 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm...i dont seem to have multiverse operating at all.... | 09:00 |
| seth_k|lappy | after you typed that command | 09:00 |
| seth_k|lappy | and put in your password | 09:00 |
| Sebastian | nothign happened | 09:00 |
| Sebastian | what password? | 09:00 |
| seth_k|lappy | what do you mean nothing happened? | 09:00 |
| seth_k|lappy | did you type the command and hit enter? | 09:00 |
| Sebastian | yes | 09:01 |
| Sebastian | no | 09:01 |
| Sebastian | i pasted it | 09:01 |
| Sebastian | and hit enter | 09:01 |
| seth_k|lappy | ok | 09:01 |
| seth_k|lappy | then it should pop up a little b ox | 09:01 |
| seth_k|lappy | and ask for your password | 09:01 |
| Sebastian | paste the command again please | 09:01 |
| DragoonJ | it seems that the kubuntu installation automatically adds windows to boot screen | 09:01 |
| Hobbsee | !upgrade2breezy | 09:01 |
| ubotu | The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade | 09:01 |
| seth_k|lappy | kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list | 09:01 |
| Sebastian | nothing | 09:02 |
| seth_k|lappy | then um | 09:03 |
| seth_k|lappy | you have bigger problems than wanting firefox | 09:03 |
| seth_k|lappy | you say this is a fresh install? | 09:03 |
| Sebastian | yes | 09:03 |
| seth_k|lappy | odd | 09:03 |
| seth_k|lappy | okay, use this then | 09:03 |
| seth_k|lappy | sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list | 09:03 |
| Sebastian | ok | 09:04 |
| Sebastian | it did ask me for a password | 09:04 |
| Sebastian | and i typed it | 09:04 |
| Sebastian | and suddenly a shitload of words appeared | 09:04 |
| seth_k|lappy | and now you have lots of text | 09:04 |
| seth_k|lappy | good | 09:04 |
| Sebastian | white on black background | 09:04 |
| seth_k|lappy | (no language please) | 09:04 |
| seth_k|lappy | okay, you're looking for the lines | 09:04 |
| seth_k|lappy | that talk about Universe | 09:04 |
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| seth_k|lappy | and you'll remove the # signs from the front of those lines | 09:04 |
| seth_k|lappy | to enable them | 09:04 |
| Hobbsee | well, breezy backports definetly arent open | 09:04 |
| Sebastian | wait | 09:05 |
| seth_k|lappy | Hobbsee, of course not :P You can't backport from an unstable | 09:05 |
| Sebastian | what talk about universe? | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 09:05 |
| DragoonJ | what is defragment tool?" | 09:05 |
| DragoonJ | Run the windows Defragment tool on C:\ | 09:05 |
| DragoonJ | " | 09:05 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian,, some of the lines will contain the word universe. Just read the instructions in the file | 09:05 |
| Sebastian | i just take out every # i find? | 09:05 |
| seth_k|lappy | no | 09:05 |
| seth_k|lappy | some of it is just instructions | 09:05 |
| seth_k|lappy | read them | 09:05 |
| frank23 | the gtk-qt engine is so cool! I can't believe I lived through hoary without it | 09:05 |
| Sebastian | # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe | 09:06 |
| Sebastian | ? | 09:06 |
| Hobbsee | chx: when you have multiverse activated, libmotif3 indeed exists :D | 09:06 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, that is one of them | 09:06 |
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| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, there should be a couple more | 09:06 |
| Sebastian | two of them | 09:06 |
| Sebastian | i took the hashes out | 09:06 |
| rr | gtk-qt what's that for? | 09:06 |
| Sebastian | oh wait | 09:06 |
| Hobbsee | make the gnome apps look more like kde ones, in short | 09:06 |
| Sebastian | yes | 09:06 |
| Sebastian | another two | 09:07 |
| Sebastian | i took them four ayt | 09:07 |
| seth_k|lappy | okay | 09:07 |
| Sebastian | naw whad? | 09:07 |
| seth_k|lappy | now CTRL + X to exit | 09:07 |
| seth_k|lappy | it will ask you to save, hit yes | 09:07 |
| seth_k|lappy | accept the name it gives the file by hitting enter | 09:07 |
| rr | breezy doesn't seem to have any gnomes apps though | 09:07 |
| seth_k|lappy | and you should be back at a prompt | 09:07 |
| Hobbsee | rr: firefox and thunderbird are, and synaptic | 09:07 |
| Hobbsee | there are heaps that you may end up using | 09:08 |
| Hobbsee | that just look dodgy in kde | 09:08 |
| seth_k|lappy | like Gaim | 09:08 |
| Sebastian | pl | 09:08 |
| Sebastian | ok | 09:08 |
| Hobbsee | and gaim | 09:08 |
| seth_k|lappy | okay, Sebastian | 09:08 |
| Sebastian | i am back at the black screen | 09:08 |
| Sebastian | with my name and stuff | 09:08 |
| seth_k|lappy | now type | 09:08 |
| Sebastian | what? | 09:08 |
| seth_k|lappy | sudo apt-get update | 09:08 |
| seth_k|lappy | it will scroll a bunch of things and then put you back at the prompt again | 09:08 |
| Sebastian | a lot of crap showing up | 09:08 |
| rr | not using any of those, I prefer kopete, but I'll keep that app in mind | 09:08 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, when it finishes: | 09:09 |
| seth_k|lappy | sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox | 09:09 |
| Hobbsee | rr: i prefer kopete as well :) it's way nicer | 09:09 |
| seth_k|lappy | and you will automagically get firefox | 09:09 |
| rr | although I did use gaim in xp | 09:09 |
| seth_k|lappy | bleh | 09:09 |
| Sebastian | E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. | 09:09 |
| Sebastian | sebastian@00e07dda0ab3:~$ | 09:09 |
| seth_k|lappy | Trillian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaim | 09:10 |
| Sebastian | ? | 09:10 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian: sudo dpkg --configure -a | 09:10 |
| Sebastian | now what it asks me something like to select a place wher eim' at | 09:10 |
| rr | opera isn't loading anything now, I just wished konqueror would have the "small view" one column | 09:11 |
| seth_k|lappy | select a place where you're at? | 09:11 |
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| Sebastian | I'm in costa rica | 09:11 |
| seth_k|lappy | oh, tzconfig | 09:11 |
| cyne | konqueror rocks | 09:11 |
| Sebastian | what? | 09:11 |
| seth_k|lappy | just follow whatever it tells you | 09:11 |
| Sebastian | er... | 09:12 |
| Sebastian | america counts as america | 09:12 |
| Sebastian | or as the US | 09:12 |
| rr | can konqueror do the one column view | 09:12 |
| Sebastian | ok | 09:13 |
| Sebastian | it changed the hour | 09:13 |
| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy: now what? | 09:13 |
| seth_k|lappy | okay, now press the up arrow a couple times | 09:13 |
| seth_k|lappy | to get back to the install firefox command | 09:13 |
| seth_k|lappy | and run it again | 09:14 |
| Sebastian | Setting up libc6-dev (2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14) ... | 09:14 |
| Sebastian | Setting up locales (2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14) ... | 09:14 |
| Sebastian | Generating locales... | 09:14 |
| Sebastian | en_US.UTF-8... done | 09:14 |
| Sebastian | en_AU.UTF-8...^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A done | 09:14 |
| Sebastian | en_BW.UTF-8... | 09:14 |
| Sebastian | ? | 09:14 |
| Sebastian | that's what happened when i pressed the up arrow | 09:14 |
| seth_k|lappy | oh, it's still working then | 09:14 |
| seth_k|lappy | just wait on it | 09:14 |
| Sebastian | it says done | 09:14 |
| seth_k|lappy | wait to get back to a prompt | 09:14 |
| Sebastian | three times | 09:14 |
| Sebastian | ah | 09:14 |
| Sebastian | ok | 09:14 |
| Sebastian | it keeps loading and then doning | 09:15 |
| seth_k|lappy | I know | 09:15 |
| seth_k|lappy | it will do a few dozen of them | 09:15 |
| Sebastian | i have a question | 09:16 |
| Sebastian | first | 09:16 |
| Sebastian | which is betetr kopete, gaim , or trillian, by better i mean having near as much as the same characteristics as msn 7 | 09:16 |
| seth_k|lappy | hmm | 09:17 |
| seth_k|lappy | you can't use trillian on Linux | 09:17 |
| seth_k|lappy | but it's the best of the 3 | 09:17 |
| Sebastian | ok for linux kernel? | 09:17 |
| seth_k|lappy | since you're on KDE, I'd recommend Kopete | 09:17 |
| Sebastian | ok | 09:17 |
| Sebastian | problem is | 09:17 |
| seth_k|lappy | especially since it is getting webcam support in the next version | 09:17 |
| Sebastian | ok it says complete | 09:17 |
| incubii | dont use kopete, cant turn notifications of services off | 09:17 |
| Sebastian | Errors were encountered while processing: | 09:17 |
| Sebastian | imagemagick | 09:17 |
| Sebastian | sebastian@00e07dda0ab3:~$ kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list | 09:17 |
| Sebastian | ^? | 09:17 |
| cyne | when is the next version due? | 09:17 |
| cyne | what is notification of services? | 09:17 |
| seth_k|lappy | that's fine Sebastian, we'll worry about it in a sec | 09:18 |
| Hobbsee | cyne: next version of what due? | 09:18 |
| Sebastian | ok | 09:18 |
| seth_k|lappy | press down arrows to get back to the install firefox command | 09:18 |
| cyne | Kopete | 09:18 |
| Sebastian | ok | 09:18 |
| Sebastian | do you want to see my pictures? | 09:18 |
| seth_k|lappy | o_0 | 09:18 |
| Sebastian | http://photos.wgyf.org/Sebastian | 09:19 |
| Sebastian | now what? | 09:19 |
| seth_k|lappy | run that command again | 09:19 |
| seth_k|lappy | the install firefox one | 09:19 |
| Sebastian | which? | 09:19 |
| seth_k|lappy | sudo apt-get install firefox | 09:19 |
| seth_k|lappy | er | 09:19 |
| seth_k|lappy | no | 09:19 |
| seth_k|lappy | mozilla-firefox | 09:19 |
| seth_k|lappy | sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox | 09:19 |
| Sebastian | sending package lists | 09:20 |
| Sebastian | ok | 09:20 |
| Sebastian | it loaded a bunch of words and then the prompt line again | 09:20 |
| seth_k|lappy | if it finished, you've got firefox | 09:20 |
| Sebastian | ok now this prolem i have with kopete | 09:20 |
| seth_k|lappy | read the words to make sure it didn't give an error :P | 09:20 |
| Sebastian | what should it say | 09:20 |
| seth_k|lappy | um, just type mozilla-firefox and see if Firefox pops up | 09:21 |
| Sebastian | Reading package lists... Done | 09:21 |
| Sebastian | Building dependency tree... Done | 09:21 |
| Sebastian | You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: | 09:21 |
| Sebastian | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 09:21 |
| Sebastian | imagemagick: Depends: libmagick6 (= 6:6.0.6.2-2.1ubuntu1.1) but 6:6.0.6.2-2.1ubuntu1 is to be installed | 09:21 |
| Sebastian | libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed | 09:21 |
| incubii | !beagle | 09:22 |
| ubotu | beagle is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto | 09:22 |
| Sebastian | sebastian@00e07dda0ab3:~$ mozilla-firefox | 09:22 |
| Sebastian | bash: mozilla-firefox: command not found | 09:22 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, | 09:22 |
| seth_k|lappy | sudo apt-get -f install | 09:22 |
| Sebastian | http://photos.wgyf.org/Postgathering | 09:23 |
| Sebastian | ok now what | 09:23 |
| Sebastian | it loaded a lot of files or something | 09:23 |
| Sebastian | and then it took me back to the prompt | 09:24 |
| seth_k|lappy | try installing firefox once more now | 09:24 |
| seth_k|lappy | and hopefully it should work | 09:24 |
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| seth_k|lappy | sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox | 09:24 |
| martinjh99 | Morning... | 09:24 |
| incubii | !clippy | 09:24 |
| ubotu | incubii: Do they come in packets of five? | 09:24 |
| incubii | awww | 09:24 |
| seth_k|lappy | morning, eh | 09:24 |
| seth_k|lappy | it's 2:30 a.m. for me | 09:24 |
| seth_k|lappy | guess that makes it morning | 09:24 |
| seth_k|lappy | :P | 09:24 |
| Sebastian | 1:24 | 09:25 |
| Sebastian | am here | 09:25 |
| martinjh99 | Well it is where I come from... ;) How do I downgrade KDE from 3.5 Beta back to 3.4.2 without re-installing... | 09:25 |
| seth_k|lappy | martinjh99, good luck even trying. I doubt you can | 09:25 |
| martinjh99 | I have changed the sources.list entry back tp a 3.4.2 repo... | 09:25 |
| Sebastian | wasted???? | 09:25 |
| seth_k|lappy | ? | 09:25 |
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| Sebastian | no not you | 09:26 |
| martinjh99 | There must be an option in apt-get or aptitude to downgrade it somewhere... | 09:26 |
| seth_k|lappy | you can force a specific version | 09:26 |
| Sebastian | its loading | 09:26 |
| Sebastian | a lot of packages | 09:26 |
| Sebastian | or something | 09:26 |
| seth_k|lappy | good | 09:26 |
| seth_k|lappy | but you will have to force allllll the supporting libs, martinjh99 | 09:26 |
| Sebastian | before i asked jonathan | 09:26 |
| seth_k|lappy | and it will be a lot of work | 09:26 |
| Sebastian | and he told me that i needed to upgrade all packages or something | 09:26 |
| Sebastian | because msn changed their script | 09:27 |
| Sebastian | and thats why it wasnt letting me log on to msn | 09:27 |
| Sebastian | with kopete | 09:27 |
| seth_k|lappy | ah, we'll fix that next | 09:27 |
| seth_k|lappy | after it loads firefox | 09:27 |
| seth_k|lappy | and then i'll go to bed | 09:27 |
| Sebastian | why????????? | 09:27 |
| martinjh99 | Ah stuff it then... I might as well re-install as its only a messing about os rather than one I need to get my work done... ;) | 09:27 |
| martinjh99 | Just wondered if there was another way to do it rather than having to reinstall... | 09:28 |
| martinjh99 | Thanks anyways... | 09:28 |
| Sebastian | downloading a lot of packages | 09:28 |
| Sebastian | number 26 now | 09:28 |
| DrCranken | anyone know how to configure bootx to boot Kubuntu on Mac Powerbook "oldworld" . I got it installed but I cant get it to Boot? | 09:29 |
| Sebastian | unpacking stuff now | 09:29 |
| Sebastian | http://sebastianquaker.blogspot.com | 09:29 |
| DrCranken | help? | 09:30 |
| Sebastian | setting up stuff now | 09:31 |
| cyne | who can tell me how to get java working within firefox ? | 09:31 |
| seth_k|lappy | ubotu tell cyne about java | 09:32 |
| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy: setting up stuff | 09:32 |
| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy: which says lib some more letters and then oubuntu | 09:32 |
| Sebastian | updating mozilla from chrome registry | 09:33 |
| cyne | seth_k|lappy: i already have java installed :) it's just that firefox doesn't recognise it | 09:33 |
| seth_k|lappy | good | 09:33 |
| seth_k|lappy | cyne, hmm | 09:33 |
| Sebastian | creating pango etc directory | 09:33 |
| seth_k|lappy | mine was just recognized immediately :( | 09:33 |
| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy: ok now what? | 09:33 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, we don't need a play-by-play :P | 09:33 |
| seth_k|lappy | ok | 09:33 |
| cyne | seth_k|lappy: java works in konqueror | 09:33 |
| seth_k|lappy | now, Sebastian: | 09:33 |
| Sebastian | i'm at the prompt again | 09:33 |
| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy:yes? | 09:33 |
| seth_k|lappy | sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list | 09:33 |
| seth_k|lappy | and uncomment the hoary-updates lines | 09:33 |
| Sebastian | take the hash out from...... | 09:34 |
| seth_k|lappy | the lines about hoary-updates | 09:34 |
| Sebastian | those don't have hashes | 09:35 |
| Sebastian | deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted | 09:35 |
| Sebastian | deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted | 09:35 |
| seth_k|lappy | yes | 09:35 |
| seth_k|lappy | okay | 09:35 |
| seth_k|lappy | then you should be okay | 09:35 |
| seth_k|lappy | CTRL + X again | 09:35 |
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| seth_k|lappy | and then finally, last step: | 09:35 |
| seth_k|lappy | sudo apt-get upgrade | 09:35 |
| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy: ok | 09:35 |
| Sebastian | lots of stuff | 09:36 |
| seth_k|lappy | yep | 09:36 |
| seth_k|lappy | upgrade it all and you'll have MSN again | 09:36 |
| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy: what is cdrdao? how do i get it? | 09:37 |
| seth_k|lappy | sudo apt-get install cdrdao | 09:37 |
| seth_k|lappy | it will allow you to burn discs with disc-at-once in keb | 09:37 |
| Sebastian | it hasn't finished | 09:37 |
| seth_k|lappy | s/keb/k3b/ | 09:37 |
| Sebastian | it hasnt finished yet! | 09:37 |
| seth_k|lappy | then remember it for after it finishes :P | 09:37 |
| Sebastian | hmmm | 09:37 |
| Sebastian | *looks for a notepat* | 09:37 |
| seth_k|lappy | um | 09:37 |
| seth_k|lappy | just | 09:37 |
| seth_k|lappy | scroll up later? | 09:37 |
| Sebastian | why is there no notepad? | 09:38 |
| Sebastian | ? | 09:38 |
| seth_k|lappy | there is | 09:38 |
| Sebastian | where? | 09:39 |
| seth_k|lappy | Utilities > Advanced Text Editor (Kate) | 09:39 |
| seth_k|lappy | iirc | 09:39 |
| === Sebastian opening kate | ||
| === Sebastian pastes sudo apt-get install cdrdao on kate | ||
| Sebastian | www.nirvana2.com | 09:41 |
| Sebastian | seth@asmallorange.com | 09:42 |
| Sebastian | where you from seth? | 09:42 |
| Sebastian | i'm from costa rica | 09:42 |
| Sebastian | i speak spanish originally | 09:42 |
| Sebastian | 09:42 | |
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| mcp_dk | hi all | 09:43 |
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| mcp_dk | If i want to create a folder that has files that needs to be accessibel from multiple users where would be a good place to put it ? | 09:44 |
| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy: can one uninstall konqueror? | 09:44 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, no | 09:44 |
| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy: why? | 09:44 |
| seth_k|lappy | mcp_dk, data files? | 09:44 |
| mcp_dk | Picture files | 09:44 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, it's part of kdelibs or something like that | 09:44 |
| seth_k|lappy | iirc | 09:44 |
| mcp_dk | from digi cam | 09:44 |
| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy: bummer | 09:45 |
| seth_k|lappy | mcp_dk, I'd just share them out of somebody's /home | 09:46 |
| seth_k|lappy | make just that folder writable/readable all | 09:46 |
| seth_k|lappy | not the whole /home of course | 09:46 |
| seth_k|lappy | anyways, it's now 3 a.m. here, I'm sleepy, off to bed | 09:46 |
| seth_k|lappy | night all | 09:46 |
| libben | why GOD whyyyyy! | 09:46 |
| mcp_dk | c ya .. and thanks | 09:46 |
| libben | im using wine and flashfxp. | 09:46 |
| libben | everytime it tells me its not registered. | 09:46 |
| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy:WAIT | 09:46 |
| libben | i paste the code and it restarts itself and ask for code again | 09:47 |
| seth_k|lappy | libben, my guess is you haven't set up the wine registry thing | 09:47 |
| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy: can i disable konqueror from being the program that opens my folders? | 09:48 |
| seth_k|lappy | Sebastian, what would you want to use instead? o_0 | 09:48 |
| Sebastian | a....window? | 09:48 |
| seth_k|lappy | um | 09:48 |
| Sebastian | LMAO | 09:49 |
| seth_k|lappy | Konqueror is kinda like Internet Explorer... all-in-one file browser and web browser | 09:49 |
| seth_k|lappy | in any case, you can't disable it | 09:49 |
| Sebastian | seth_k|lappy: i can use firefox as my default broswer though right? | 09:49 |
| seth_k|lappy | of course | 09:49 |
| seth_k|lappy | i use it | 09:49 |
| seth_k|lappy | anyways, bed | 09:49 |
| Sebastian | wait | 09:50 |
| Sebastian | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 09:50 |
| ubotu | Sebastian: Not a clue | 09:50 |
| Sebastian | what? | 09:50 |
| cyne | Sebastian: why would you want to? Konqueror is awesome ! | 09:50 |
| Sebastian | too slow | 09:51 |
| Sebastian | i also | 09:51 |
| Sebastian | always have to go to view and click | 09:51 |
| Sebastian | enlarge font | 09:51 |
| Sebastian | because the font looks too small | 09:51 |
| cyne | change the font settings then :) | 09:51 |
| Sebastian | wee letters for almost every page | 09:51 |
| Sebastian | how!? | 09:51 |
| cyne | in the system settings | 09:52 |
| Sebastian | also, i can't seem to find a window to change the history downloads etc | 09:52 |
| Sebastian | like on firefox | 09:52 |
| cyne | Appearance -> FOnts | 09:52 |
| libben | hmm | 09:55 |
| Sebastian | cyne: i just tried to reload my hotmail's inbox and it says konqueror is blocking cookies | 09:56 |
| libben | my xwine is craching on me when i try to click the regedit parameter | 09:56 |
| Sebastian | cyne: i just tried to reload my hotmail's inbox and it says konqueror is blocking cookies | 09:56 |
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| cyne | Sebastian: well change the preferences :) | 09:58 |
| Sebastian | how!? that's what i can't do | 09:58 |
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| Sebastian | cyne: how do i open the preferences box on konqueror | 10:02 |
| hettar | the bittorrent for the new breezy rc isn't working | 10:02 |
| hettar | I can no longer connect to the tracker | 10:03 |
| chavo | Sebastian, Settings -> Configure Konqueror | 10:04 |
| Sebastian | gracias | 10:05 |
| Sebastian | why is the upgrade to everything taking so long | 10:06 |
| Sebastian | cyne: how do i change the font to times new roman | 10:07 |
| Sebastian | ? | 10:07 |
| cyne | i don't know | 10:07 |
| chavo | which font? for webpages? | 10:07 |
| Sebastian | konqueror | 10:08 |
| chavo | it's in the konqueror settings | 10:09 |
| Sebastian | it doesnt appear listed | 10:09 |
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| chavo | you went to Settings -> Configure Konqueror, in a konq window? | 10:10 |
| chavo | then scroll down on the left hand frame | 10:11 |
| chavo | or run this -> kcmshell khtml_fonts | 10:13 |
| Sebastian | i paste that on konsole? | 10:13 |
| chavo | yeah run it in a konsole | 10:14 |
| Sebastian | sudo apt-kcmshell khtml_fonts ? | 10:14 |
| chavo | no run it as user, only gonna configure your fonts | 10:14 |
| Sebastian | its just not htere | 10:14 |
| Sebastian | like it froms from s to u | 10:15 |
| cyne | anyone got a clue which kynaptic package i should be downloading for firefox java? | 10:15 |
| Sebastian | cyne: any way to download times new roman font? | 10:16 |
| chavo | Sebastian, oh you want to install it? | 10:16 |
| cyne | Sebastian: no doubt there is, i don't know try google | 10:16 |
| chavo | I thought you just wanted to change it | 10:17 |
| Sebastian | Cookies must be allowed | 10:17 |
| Sebastian | Your browser is currently set to block cookies. Your browser must allow cookies before you can use the Passport Network. | 10:17 |
| Sebastian | Cookies are small text files stored on your computer that tell Passport Network sites and services when you're signed in. To learn how to allow cookies, see online help in your web browser. | 10:17 |
| Sebastian | how do i change this? | 10:17 |
| rr | how can I find out my usb printer ID for print manager | 10:18 |
| rr | it's going through a usb hub, and info center doesn't show the port | 10:18 |
| libben | soo, how is adept comming? | 10:19 |
| libben | any good candidate for removing the synaptic? | 10:19 |
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| Sebastian | unable to start cookie handler device, you will not be able to handle the cookies that are storeed on your computer | 10:20 |
| Sebastian | how do i change this? | 10:20 |
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| chavo | Sebastian, sounds like something crashed, try running -> kded <- in the run dialog | 10:21 |
| Sebastian | konsole? | 10:21 |
| Sebastian | run command? | 10:21 |
| chavo | yeah run command -> kded | 10:22 |
| Sebastian | ok | 10:22 |
| chavo | Sebastian, did you find the times font yet? | 10:23 |
| Sebastian | nothing happened | 10:23 |
| andre | hi. i've got a problem with the oss-emulation. i always get /dev/dsp: Device or Ressource busy. but lsof or fuser don't show any usage. Can anybody help? | 10:24 |
| Sebastian | nah i just set it to sans | 10:24 |
| mornfall | libben: maybe, maybe | 10:24 |
| libben | i need better then that =) | 10:24 |
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| spiral | hi | 10:26 |
| libben | ho | 10:28 |
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| chimaera | hi.. | 10:29 |
| chimaera | i just read the announcement for 5.10 and wonder how automountings is implemented (curious debian-user..).. | 10:29 |
| mornfall | libben: what about just trying? | 10:31 |
| Sebastian | cyne: how do i change the configuration of the layout | 10:32 |
| Sebastian | it seems as if everything is set to wee dimensions | 10:32 |
| libben | why aint kde 3.5 in breezy when its gonna be released? | 10:34 |
| inc|freaky | hi all. im running kde, but it always becomes "jumpy" ... when i f.e. select an area on the desktop, at the beginning evcerything is smooth, then, when a larger area is selected (i mean when trying to select multiple icons) the screen starts "jumping" i mean, the selecting starts jumping not going smooth ... is there any way i can fix that? it happens everywhere, whole kde starts beeing jumpy | 10:34 |
| chimaera | libben: probably because it's not yet released by then? | 10:34 |
| inc|freaky | and my X uses 50% cpu for just selecting an area | 10:34 |
| inc|freaky | im using kde3.5beta1 | 10:35 |
| inc|freaky | with breezy | 10:35 |
| inc|freaky | any ideas? :( | 10:35 |
| inc|freaky | f.e. when starting kvirc a few windows open fast, and then it become real slow there seems to be something taking up resources | 10:36 |
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| mornfall | inc|freaky: hmm, isn't kubuntu applying those funny "improvement" patches? | 11:00 |
| mornfall | inc|freaky: (that's a likely candidate) | 11:00 |
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| mornfall | inc|freaky: (for selection... if it happens elsewhere, well, no idea, probably something else has gone wrong) | 11:01 |
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| elcuco | is there a bugzilla? where do i report bugs? | 11:12 |
| elcuco | i found that on the kde keyboard tool, on non latin layouts, you cannot include the lating layoutm it's grayed out. | 11:12 |
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| chimaera | elcuco: bugzilla.ubuntu.com | 11:14 |
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| bdmp | Can someone tell me the command to delete a file, and the one to make a folder? | 11:23 |
| hettar | rm file mkdir dirname | 11:24 |
| bdmp | ok | 11:24 |
| bdmp | thanks | 11:24 |
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| bdmp | Do I have to remount a harddrive each time i start my comp? | 11:28 |
| bdmp | hdb1 | 11:28 |
| hettar | edit your /etc/fstab file to make it load automatically | 11:28 |
| bdmp | Thanks. i don't see the device in that file. Do I just add it? | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | !faq | 11:32 |
| ubotu | rumour has it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ | 11:32 |
| Hobbsee | see the windows part of that for exact syntax, and yes, you do | 11:32 |
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| spiral | hi again | 11:41 |
| Hobbsee | hello | 11:43 |
| _luca | hi to you all... my problem: i've tried all the night to install wine on kubuntu. It won't work. | 11:44 |
| Hobbsee | what do you mean "wont work?" | 11:44 |
| Hobbsee | any error messages? | 11:45 |
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| florent | hi everybody | 11:46 |
| Hobbsee | hi florent | 11:46 |
| florent | can you help me have a question ... | 11:46 |
| _luca__ | well, hobb...... after 5 hrs it may have started to work only now, i feel extremely stupid. sorry. | 11:47 |
| Hobbsee | ask your question, and we'll see | 11:47 |
| Hobbsee | _luca__: what? | 11:47 |
| florent | I've tried gentto and emerge commmand | 11:47 |
| Hobbsee | _luca__: which was this for again? | 11:47 |
| florent | what was cool was the ability of exactly launching the package list ( which allowed or not) | 11:48 |
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| florent | i fond informations about apt-get and /etc/apt/preferences | 11:48 |
| florent | tried to edit one | 11:48 |
| florent | but nothing append | 11:49 |
| Hobbsee | what were you wanting to edit? | 11:49 |
| florent | as if if did nothing | 11:49 |
| _luca__ | sorry, i just tried to install Soldat with Setup.exe and now it did work... i'm seeing if it works really | 11:49 |
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| Hobbsee | ah right, cool :) | 11:50 |
| florent | do you want to show a part of the file ? | 11:50 |
| Hobbsee | i couldnt remember lol | 11:50 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not really understanding what you are asking, and i've never used gentoo before | 11:50 |
| florent | for exemple i've installed amarok 1.3 on ubuntu | 11:50 |
| florent | it's work well | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 11:51 |
| florent | but the problem is that apt-get -f install retourn me that an upgrad of amarok 1.3 to amarok 1.2.3 is needed and some other packages | 11:52 |
| florent | what i want to do is blocking the amarok 1.23 version | 11:52 |
| florent | using /etc/apt/preferences | 11:52 |
| Hobbsee | why are you using a -f switch? | 11:54 |
| florent | sometimes to fix some broken packages | 11:54 |
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| _luca__ | ...well Soldat won't work very well, brb | 11:55 |
| florent | in fact i want to block update ability for specific package | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | you on breezy or hoary? | 11:56 |
| florent | hoary | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | thought so. in breezy, amarok 1.3 is installed by default | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | a FYI | 11:57 |
| florent | no that and on hoary amarok 1.3 can't be installed ... | 11:57 |
| florent | know that sorry | 11:57 |
| Hobbsee | drat, dinner... | 11:57 |
| florent | ok | 11:57 |
| florent | somebody to help me ? | 11:59 |
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| inc|freaky | mornfall: i dont think kubuntu applies extra patches | 12:04 |
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| _luca2__ | here am I again | 12:07 |
| _luca2__ | and there is my problem: Soldat won't work in wine... i wondered if anyone had installed it before | 12:08 |
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| _luca2__ | buongiorno a tutti... Qualcuno che abbia dimestichezza con wine? Ho provato a installarci su Soldat ma non va molto bene | 12:09 |
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| bdmp | how can I change the permissions for a harddrive in /etc/fstab? | 12:20 |
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| nikkia | bdmp: it varies from filesystem to filesystem, but man mount will explain filesystem options, you probably want to look at the 'umask' option many filesystems support | 12:22 |
| bdmp | ok | 12:23 |
| nikkia | bdmp: you're probably talking about vfat or ntfs, in which case 'user' or 'group' can be useful too | 12:23 |
| bdmp | I have user set but I can't make a file on the drive using the gui | 12:23 |
| bdmp | vfat | 12:23 |
| nikkia | are you sure the partition is mounted read-write (rw) and not read-only (ro) | 12:25 |
| bdmp | it doesn't say either of thoes | 12:26 |
| bdmp | should I add it? | 12:26 |
| bdmp | to the /etc/fstab file? | 12:26 |
| nikkia | what does typing 'mount' say about theparttiion ? | 12:26 |
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| bdmp | it is already mounted | 12:27 |
| bdmp | it said | 12:27 |
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| haffe | Hi again. Can anyone here help me with baghira? | 12:29 |
| bdmp | this is what it says "/dev/hdb1 /mnt/120baby vfat rw,noatime,user, 0 0 | 12:29 |
| nikkia | bdmp, ah, you probably want user=your_user_name in fstab | 12:30 |
| bdmp | ok | 12:30 |
| bdmp | do I leave the comma in after user? | 12:30 |
| nikkia | or perhaps its uid=your_uid i forget | 12:30 |
| nikkia | yeah, 'user' says non-root people can mount/umount it | 12:31 |
| nikkia | you want to add uid=your_uid | 12:31 |
| nikkia | where you can find your uid from doing 'id' | 12:31 |
| nikkia | (it'll almost certainly be 1000) | 12:32 |
| bdmp | /dev/hdb1 /mnt/120baby vfat rw,noatime,user, 0 0 | 12:32 |
| bdmp | oops | 12:32 |
| bdmp | uid=1000(burepe) | 12:32 |
| bdmp | I am confused I want to add "uid=1000" after "user" in that string? | 12:33 |
| nikkia | bdmp: yes, after the ',' | 12:33 |
| chimaera | i read the announcement for 5.10 and i'm wondering how automounting is implemented (curious debian-user..).. | 12:34 |
| nikkia | don't add a comma after the string you add though | 12:34 |
| nikkia | chimaera: haven't seen the announcement, but i'd imagine with autofs | 12:34 |
| bdmp | ok thanls | 12:34 |
| nikkia | chimaera: and unless they've hacked stuff about, yes, that will mean people will bitch when they have problems with burning CDs :/ | 12:35 |
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| |CortoMaltese| | hello | 12:36 |
| |CortoMaltese| | can someone help me? | 12:36 |
| bdmp | woohoo thanks nikkia | 12:36 |
| bdmp | whats the question? | 12:36 |
| |CortoMaltese| | i don't know how italianize my kubuntu... | 12:36 |
| chimaera | nikkia: i see.. maybe i give it a shot when the final is released.. kde really has some usability issues regardiing volume-management. | 12:37 |
| BlackDesert | ciao corto | 12:37 |
| BlackDesert | ;-) | 12:37 |
| |CortoMaltese| | BlackDesert, puoi aiutarmi? | 12:38 |
| BlackDesert | kde in ita giusto ? | 12:38 |
| |CortoMaltese| | s | 12:38 |
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| bdmp | I am not sure but use synaptic and search the word italian | 12:38 |
| |CortoMaltese| | ci sentiamo in pvt o qui? | 12:38 |
| chimaera | Corto: install the i18n-it package and configure via cc. and get a nick completion friendly nick... | 12:38 |
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| bdmp | look for some kde package and then you can enable it in the control center under that regional & accessibility section | 12:39 |
| nikkia | |CortoMaltese|: alternatively, #ubuntu-it might provide better help :) | 12:39 |
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| BlackDesert | hai la risposta su ubuntu-it | 12:39 |
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| bdmp | CortoMaltese:http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-35576.html | 12:44 |
| |CortoMaltese| | yeah! | 12:47 |
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| huhmz | Why does ubuntu/kubuntu put the kernel modules on a tmpfs? | 12:55 |
| bdmp | |CortoMaltese|: this is the package kde-i18n-it | 12:55 |
| bdmp | Italian (it) internationalized (i18n) files for KDE | 12:55 |
| bdmp | sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-it | 12:56 |
| |CortoMaltese| | yes, i solved the problem ^_^ | 12:57 |
| BlackDesert | funziona ? | 12:58 |
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| |CortoMaltese| | s | 01:00 |
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| nikkia | huhmz: do you mean the initrd stuff? | 01:01 |
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| huhmz | nikkia: i mean /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile | 01:05 |
| huhmz | why is it on a tmpfs? | 01:05 |
| nikkia | huhmz: the key is in the name(path), i suggest :) | 01:08 |
| cyne | how do i do a "scandisk" on my hard disk? | 01:08 |
| Tm_T | cyne: do what? | 01:09 |
| nikkia | cyne: you don't really need to, these days, but the equivalent would be fsck | 01:09 |
| nikkia | cyne: it should *never* be run on a mounted filesystem tho, so you'd want to reboot single user | 01:09 |
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| Hobbsee | neat, you can run music from the command line! | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | i've only just discovered that | 01:16 |
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| cyne | nikkia: how do i reboot single user? | 01:21 |
| nikkia | cyne: you reboot, and add the command 'single' to the end of the boot command :) | 01:22 |
| cyne | boot command? | 01:22 |
| nikkia | actually, i believe [k] ubuntu adds a single-user boot menu anyway | 01:22 |
| nikkia | yes, it does, the '(recovery mode)' menu option adds the 'single' option | 01:23 |
| nikkia | cyne: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst and you'll see what i mean | 01:23 |
| huhmz | also, shutdown -F if you want to fsck the root fs | 01:23 |
| cyne | huhmz: mmm nice | 01:24 |
| huhmz | what are ati's proprietary drivers for X called? I don't think i mean fglrx there is some more i think i used to have? | 01:26 |
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| nikkia | huhmz: fglrx is it | 01:32 |
| huhmz | i was thinking about the driver called "radeon" i think | 01:33 |
| huhmz | have a Radeon 7500 Mobility so i should probably use "radeon" instead of "ati" in xorg.conf right? | 01:34 |
| incubii | i thought radeon was the drivers included with xorg | 01:34 |
| huhmz | yes they are, but they also include a driver called ati | 01:34 |
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| sebastian | help | 01:35 |
| sebastian | i need to install | 01:35 |
| sebastian | gaim | 01:35 |
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| incubii | hrrm i read somewhere that ati and radeon point to the same thing | 01:35 |
| huhmz | sebastian: apt-get install gaim | 01:35 |
| huhmz | incubii: they do? | 01:35 |
| incubii | from what i understood they are | 01:36 |
| huhmz | incubii: ls -la /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/{ati_drv.o,radeon_drv.o} | 01:36 |
| huhmz | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 403780 2005-10-04 14:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o | 01:36 |
| huhmz | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 912710 2005-10-04 14:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o | 01:36 |
| huhmz | not symlinked and not same size at least | 01:37 |
| incubii | ok then scratch that | 01:37 |
| incubii | :) | 01:37 |
| sebastian | ebastian@00e07dda0ab3:~$ apt-get install gaim | 01:37 |
| sebastian | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) | 01:37 |
| sebastian | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? | 01:37 |
| sebastian | sebastian@00e07dda0ab3:~$ | 01:37 |
| huhmz | sebastian: sudo apt-get install gaim | 01:37 |
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| sebastian | huhmz: how do i get a new font? | 01:45 |
| sebastian | times nw roman | 01:45 |
| mrplant | www.ubuntuguide.org | 01:46 |
| Blissex | sebastian: it can be a long and complicated thing or an easy one. | 01:47 |
| Blissex | sebastian: for the ''easy'' approach, install the package 'msttcorefonts' and follow the prompts. | 01:47 |
| sebastian | give me the simple one | 01:47 |
| sebastian | how? | 01:47 |
| Blissex | sebastian: 'sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts' | 01:48 |
| sebastian | i can't type the at sign with this keybaord | 01:49 |
| sebastian | v | 01:49 |
| sebastian | Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 01:49 |
| sebastian | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or | 01:49 |
| sebastian | is only available from another source | 01:49 |
| sebastian | E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate | 01:49 |
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| Hobbsee | do you have the multiverse repositories available? | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee | if not, you'll need them | 01:54 |
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| SecrethX | why cant amaroK play something? | 02:00 |
| sebastian | i don't like the graphics | 02:01 |
| sebastian | how do i change the configuration | 02:01 |
| sebastian | hotmail looks like crap | 02:01 |
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| sebastian | also | 02:02 |
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| sebastian | there are a lot of symbols | 02:03 |
| sebastian | like the at sign that i can't type | 02:03 |
| SecrethX | why cant amaroK play something? | 02:03 |
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| Hobbsee | sebasian: which is this you are talking about looking bad? | 02:08 |
| Hobbsee | Secrethx: you might want to check out http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 and then come back here | 02:09 |
| lyndy | NickServ- Type: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER | 02:10 |
| sebastian | kubuntu | 02:10 |
| sebastian | it looks odd, particularly firefox, the icons are too small | 02:10 |
| sebastian | like they take too little space on the scren | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | sebastian: do you have the qt gtk thingo engine installed? | 02:11 |
| sebastian | very wee stop and relaod icons | 02:11 |
| lyndy | msg nickserv register <jokers> | 02:11 |
| sebastian | qt gtk nine_ | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | search for it in adept/kynaptic | 02:11 |
| sebastian | how? how do install it? | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | lyndy - what? | 02:11 |
| thoreauputic | SecrethX: you might also read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | 02:11 |
| lyndy | sorry guys, i am trying to register but haven't a clue what to do | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | lol thoreauputic: you get my drift | 02:12 |
| bdmp | Can someone tell me how to install Java? | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | lyndy: type /msg nickserv identify password | 02:12 |
| thoreauputic | Hobbsee: ah - tiny URLs don't tell me much ;) | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | where password is your password | 02:12 |
| lyndy | already done that | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | true, they dont, and it's not mine, i saw it in #kde | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | then you should be registered | 02:13 |
| lyndy | i guess u are seeing my messages. does that mean i am registered? | 02:13 |
| lyndy | lol. ok | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | doesnt look like an identified nick... | 02:13 |
| thoreauputic | !tell bdmp about javadeb | 02:14 |
| sebastian | Hobbsee: how do i get the qt gtk thingo engine? | 02:14 |
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| Hobbsee | msg nickserv register <jokers> - was that what you tried lyndy? | 02:15 |
| lyndy | yes, it was | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | stick a / in front of msg, and take out hte < >'s around your password | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | sebastian: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | in a console | 02:15 |
| delltony | whats going on guys | 02:15 |
| lyndy | ok | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | lyndy: it'll come back with a message saying that you are identified | 02:16 |
| lyndy | thanks | 02:16 |
| delltony | Hobbsee, any sign of riddell? | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | [Notice] -NickServ- You have already identified - similar to that | 02:16 |
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| Hobbsee | delltony: not recently, idle for 9 hours, 23 mins, and 3 seconds | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | i dont know what he wants tested | 02:17 |
| delltony | ok still trying like hell to figure out how to get rid of this volume dialog | 02:17 |
| sebastian | I met Jonathan RIdell kubuntu developer | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | so it hasnt gone away? | 02:18 |
| delltony | nope | 02:18 |
| sebastian | Hobbsee: it seems to have been installed | 02:18 |
| sebastian | what now_ | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | sebastian: yes, that's Riddell on IRC | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | restart firefox? | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | there's an extra section under appearances in kcontrol, something about gtk | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | make sure it's set to use the same fonts as the kde windows are, and it should look better :) | 02:19 |
| sebastian | still looks ugly | 02:19 |
| sebastian | the icons | 02:19 |
| sebastian | wee icons | 02:19 |
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| sebastian | what was this program supossed tod o? | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | it makes the gtk apps look nice, like firefox, thunderbird, synaptic, gimp, etc | 02:20 |
| cyne | sebastian: you can download themes for firefox | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | makes them look like qt ones, or readable | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | and you can change the icons in kcontrol | 02:20 |
| sebastian | how_ | 02:21 |
| sebastian | i just switched to this a day ago | 02:21 |
| Hobbsee | run kcontrol, have a look in the appearance tab, icons | 02:21 |
| sebastian | non windonwsness | 02:21 |
| Hobbsee | there are different sizes of the icons | 02:21 |
| Hobbsee | under advanced | 02:21 |
| sebastian | wheres kcontrol? | 02:22 |
| Hobbsee | otherwise known as control center, i think | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | it should be on your kmenu | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | otherwise use alt+f2, then type kcontrol | 02:23 |
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| sedeki | What do i need to download to be able to watch WMV files? | 02:27 |
| thoreauputic | !tell sedeki about restricted | 02:29 |
| lyndy | Hobsee, how can i retrieve my password? | 02:29 |
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| brosio | i'm using alsa driver but now i don't have /dev/dsp, and i need it to work with skype how can i do ? | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | retrieve your password? | 02:31 |
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| haffe | Hmmm, I have some troubles. I have installed gstreamer-mad but I can't play mp3s in amarok, am I missing something? | 02:32 |
| lyndy | yes. I keep getting the message (IDENTIFY <password?) | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | copy paste this: /msg nickserv identify jokers | 02:33 |
| lyndy | i tried all possible passwords i could have used | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | you had to take out both < and > | 02:33 |
| lyndy | it says password incorrect | 02:34 |
| sebastian | Hobbsee: how do i change my keyboard to work exactly as on windows and with a spanish keyboard | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | hmm...ok then | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | i cant really help you with what your password is lol | 02:35 |
| lyndy | can i re-register then? using another name? | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | run kpersonalizer | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | that'll let you say use windows environment (ie double click to open, windows shortcuts) | 02:36 |
| lyndy | but it seems the system registers my log-on name. Can i use any name? | 02:36 |
| Hobbsee | as for spanish keyboard, you'll have to change that in control panel / kcontrol - you might want to browse through all of that, as it should answer a fair few question | 02:36 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, you should be able to use anything that someone hasnt already registered | 02:37 |
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| lyndy | ok. will start again then | 02:37 |
| Hobbsee | lyndy type: and paste the output: /msg nickserv info | 02:38 |
| sedeki | thoreauputic W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 | 02:38 |
| thoreauputic | sedeki: why are you using marillat repositories? | 02:38 |
| thoreauputic | sedeki: ah the restricted wiki page... | 02:39 |
| sedeki | i could apt-get w32codecs anyway | 02:39 |
| thoreauputic | sedeki: what does it tell you to install from nerim ? | 02:39 |
| hyperactivecrond | thoreauputic: w32codecs | 02:39 |
| sedeki | thoreauputic what? | 02:39 |
| sedeki | w32codecs is the one i need. | 02:40 |
| thoreauputic | ah - hang on | 02:40 |
| thoreauputic | !w32codecs | 02:40 |
| ubotu | w32codecs is, like, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) | 02:40 |
| thoreauputic | there you go | 02:41 |
| delltony | hey thoreauputic you are usually the one that helps me with issues any chance when you get a sec i can get your help on an issue that is driving me freaking nuts :) | 02:41 |
| thoreauputic | delltony: it depends on the issue :) | 02:41 |
| sedeki | thoreauputic "deb http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ hoary universe" ? | 02:42 |
| hyperactivecrond | hey does lenova (aka ibm) sell a linux lappy? | 02:43 |
| thoreauputic | sedeki: I think the idea is you download it and install with " sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb | 02:43 |
| delltony | well this volume dialog thing is stuck in the center of my screen and i can't figure out what it belongs too and how to remove it it simply will not go away http://www.imageark.net/img.php?id=132342 | 02:43 |
| thoreauputic | delltony: let me have a look | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | delltony: what's the thing right underneath it? | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | there's a dialog box which you can see teh bottom of | 02:45 |
| thoreauputic | delltony: bizarre - never seen that | 02:45 |
| sedeki | oh well. | 02:45 |
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| asraniel | hi, i just tried kubuntu for the first time, and im impressed. i only have one problem. i have two soundcards, but atm the wrong one is used by default, how can i change that? | 02:46 |
| delltony | thanks | 02:47 |
| delltony | runcommand where i was trying to get to terminal to kill it | 02:47 |
| delltony | wonder if its some kinda gnome gstreamer crap? | 02:47 |
| delltony | i only use kubuntu kde but i'm wondering if some gnome stuff got put in and its messing up that | 02:47 |
| delltony | everything was cool till around the time i installed mplayer-586 | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | could be | 02:48 |
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| needlz_ | does anyone know where i can get the "newest" rls's of breezy? i had a link once..where all the "daily" versions of breezy were listed :( | 02:49 |
| needlz_ | btw hi | 02:49 |
| sebastian | oh get me away from here im dying | 02:49 |
| sebastian | play me a song to set me free | 02:49 |
| sebastian | nobody writes them like they used to | 02:49 |
| sebastian | so it may as well be me | 02:50 |
| sebastian | here on my on now after hour | 02:50 |
| sebastian | here on my on now on a bus | 02:50 |
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| needlz_ | lol wtf | 02:50 |
| sedeki | have you guys seen the KDE project appeal? | 02:51 |
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| Hobbsee | anyone doing folding at home here? | 02:57 |
| bdmp | whats folding at home? | 02:59 |
| haffe | Computer simulated protein folding. | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47989 | 03:00 |
| bdmp | whoa | 03:00 |
| bdmp | not me | 03:00 |
| bdmp | i'm playing mariokart | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | my actual question is how do i get rid of it, if i want to | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | *if i ever want to | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | just delete the script? | 03:01 |
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| delltony | ok there has to be an issue with mplayer-586 package cause when i removed it wa la no more volume dialog | 03:02 |
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| Hobbsee | delltony: file a bug? | 03:04 |
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| Ionic` | Hey guys. | 03:05 |
| delltony | no but i will | 03:05 |
| Ionic` | Any developer online? :/ | 03:05 |
| delltony | let me reinstall it again and see if he problem comes back | 03:05 |
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| dan_ | Anyone: Help with make - how to fix the problem "sudo apt-get install make" yields message "Package make is not available" | 03:06 |
| delltony | did you type ./configure first | 03:07 |
| dan_ | no, just as a command itself? | 03:07 |
| delltony | yeah i read that wrong hang on let me look at my side and see if i can help | 03:08 |
| delltony | in all seriousness i thought make was like a built in shell command | 03:09 |
| dan_ | I was trying to upgrade touchpad driver and ran into the problem w/ no make. I'm surprised too. | 03:09 |
| delltony | you get the source type ./configure then make then checkinstall | 03:09 |
| delltony | let me download some source and test but thats how it has always worked in the past for me | 03:10 |
| dan_ | Somehow I accidentally removed "make." Maybe when I removed gdm after moving from ubuntu to kubuntu. | 03:10 |
| delltony | i just don't see a specific package called make honestly with apt-cache search or apropos | 03:11 |
| dan_ | thanks for trying, I'll go hunt a bit more myself | 03:13 |
| spiral | hmmm, should kubuntu someday include klik natively ? | 03:13 |
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| EcksEightySix | I removed ksysguard displays (trying to remoe the applet itself)... but now I can't add them back.. any hints? | 03:19 |
| EcksEightySix | s/remoe/remove | 03:19 |
| Firetech | EcksEightySix: start ksysguard, look in the list of sensors, and drag them to the applet boxes | 03:21 |
| asraniel | is there a way in kubuntu to change the default soundcard? i have a onboard and a pci, i want tu use the pci, the onboard cant be disabled in the bios | 03:21 |
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| EcksEightySix | ohh! sweet! let me try! | 03:22 |
| Firetech | when a box asks you how to connect to ksysguardd, choose other (or whatever that choice is named) and write ksysguardd in the box | 03:22 |
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| EcksEightySix | Firetech: thank you very much for your help. | 03:23 |
| Firetech | EcksEightySix: np. | 03:24 |
| bdmp | Can someone tell me how to share a folder on a local network? gui or command line is fine. | 03:24 |
| delltony | asraniel http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27186.html | 03:26 |
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| bdmp | Question: On my network I can see and transfer files from the windows comps to my linux box, but the windows comps don't see my linux box. Any suggestions on how to fix this? | 03:41 |
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| hyperactivecrond | bdmp: is samba installed? | 03:47 |
| hyperactivecrond | !samba | 03:47 |
| ubotu | extra, extra, read all about it, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently | 03:47 |
| SecrethX | how do I get amarok to work? | 03:48 |
| bdmp | Yeah, I was using that and I couldn't get in the windows comps so found another way in "remote places". Is it not a 2 way road? | 03:48 |
| hyperactivecrond | SecrethX: sudo apt-get install amarok | 03:48 |
| hyperactivecrond | !amarok | 03:48 |
| ubotu | I guess amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/ | 03:48 |
| SecrethX | I`m on kubuntu breezy, so it is installed. but I wont get any music out it | 03:49 |
| hyperactivecrond | arts problems then :\ either that or your volume's not turned up :P | 03:49 |
| SecrethX | hehe volume is up | 03:49 |
| SecrethX | oh, forgot to mention, this is the Live CD | 03:49 |
| hyperactivecrond | :P | 03:50 |
| SecrethX | nope, still wont work | 03:51 |
| SecrethX | with sudo apt-get install amarok i get this. | 03:52 |
| SecrethX | : | 03:52 |
| SecrethX | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install amarok | 03:52 |
| SecrethX | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Bron tijdelijk onbeschikbaar) | 03:52 |
| SecrethX | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? | 03:52 |
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| SecrethX | hyperactivecrond: Kaffeine says this: There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins | 03:55 |
| hyperactivecrond | SecrethX what are you trying to play? | 03:56 |
| SecrethX | a .mp3 | 03:56 |
| hyperactivecrond | !mp3 | 03:56 |
| ubotu | See !restricted | 03:56 |
| dave_ | Winamp 5.10 paused | 03:56 |
| SecrethX | from a mounted windowsdrive | 03:57 |
| hyperactivecrond | !restricted | 03:57 |
| ubotu | [restricted] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats | 03:57 |
| SecrethX | ah thanks | 03:57 |
| bdmp | hyperactivecrond, thoes faqs are pretty heavy. Before I get into that, Can you tell me if this is true? If I can see the windows comps shared folders from my linux box then shouldn't it be easy for them to see me? Or is that what Samba is for? Samba is used just to be recognized by the windows computers? | 03:58 |
| hyperactivecrond | bdmp: is samba installed? | 03:59 |
| bdmp | yes | 03:59 |
| hyperactivecrond | !swat | 03:59 |
| ubotu | well, swat is Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html | 03:59 |
| hyperactivecrond | do that ^^ | 03:59 |
| bdmp | pk | 04:00 |
| SecrethX | darn kate crashes | 04:00 |
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| bdmp | ok | 04:00 |
| SecrethX | hyperactivecrond: kate keeps crashing :S | 04:01 |
| hyperactivecrond | SecrethX sudo apt-get install swat | 04:01 |
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| SecrethX | E: Couldn't find package swat | 04:03 |
| bdmp | I think that command was a mistake | 04:03 |
| bdmp | he was telling me to get swat | 04:03 |
| Tm_T | :p | 04:03 |
| bdmp | but you have a different problem | 04:04 |
| moonwalker | whenever i try to play any video file in mplayer i get a error that Direst Show codecs not found | 04:04 |
| bdmp | i could be wrong though | 04:04 |
| moonwalker | what should i do | 04:04 |
| SecrethX | nah | 04:04 |
| SecrethX | I have so many problems :p | 04:04 |
| SecrethX | kate keeps crashing, amarok and kaffeine wont play mp3s etc | 04:04 |
| moonwalker | DIrectShow codec wmvdmod.dll | 04:04 |
| moonwalker | neone thr? | 04:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | moonwalker: do you have mplayers codecs installed? | 04:08 |
| moonwalker | i installed mplayer-k6 codec | 04:08 |
| moonwalker | but it is not working | 04:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | moonwalker: try installing the tar from mplayers website, thats what i use | 04:08 |
| moonwalker | also my kaffeine is also not working .. shows that the requiredplugins are not installed | 04:09 |
| SecrethX | brb | 04:09 |
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| _h | Hi folks. | 04:22 |
| _h | I am needing some advice on upgrading kubuntu from hoary to breezy | 04:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) hi | 04:23 |
| _h | I know it's RC and all, but I would like to know if it's "working" :-) | 04:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i know theres a wiki page about it, but i can help you as well ( i dont remember the wiki page) | 04:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yeh, it works well enough :) still bugs there, but not as many as 2 weeks ago :D | 04:23 |
| _h | I had a problem on my laptop (tracking breezy) that the dead-keys stopped working and never came back | 04:24 |
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| _h | searched the wikis exhaustively but nothing came up | 04:24 |
| SecrethX | !restricted | 04:25 |
| ubotu | restricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats | 04:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | try bugzilla ( it has a shit search function though) | 04:25 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | hi penguinboy :O | 04:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :D | 04:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 04:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :} | 04:25 |
| asraniel | hi, is there a simple way to change the default soundcard in kubuntu? i cant find it... i have 2 soundcards | 04:25 |
| penguinboy | hey hey hey KK | 04:25 |
| _h | been there, done that :-) | 04:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) worht a shot | 04:26 |
| _h | ok. I probably will try it tomorrow (going to the countryside today w/wife&kids), and then I'll come back here for rescue :-) | 04:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. have fun | 04:27 |
| dazza | has anyone had kde apps with memory leaks? i've had problems with amarok and konqueror (web browsing mode) recently | 04:27 |
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| SecrethX | is there some command in the terminal for copying files? | 04:27 |
| _h | bye... tks. | 04:27 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: cp <sourcefiles> <destination files> | 04:27 |
| SecrethX | ty | 04:28 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: use cp -R to copy directories recursively | 04:28 |
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| SecrethX | hmm no only a file | 04:28 |
| SecrethX | but does it overwrite it? | 04:28 |
| dazza | cp will overwrite the target by default yes | 04:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | rsync ? | 04:28 |
| SecrethX | ok | 04:28 |
| SecrethX | thx | 04:29 |
| dazza | in konqueror you can use man:/cp for more info | 04:29 |
| SecrethX | thx dude | 04:29 |
| dazza | no probs | 04:30 |
| SecrethX | if you install w32codecs on the live cd, does it stay then? or will it be lost when you use it the next time? | 04:31 |
| maddin | #xg-clan | 04:31 |
| SecrethX | w32codecs is an example | 04:31 |
| maddin | how i can change channel? | 04:32 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: lost. live cd restores to a clean state | 04:32 |
| SecrethX | damn :p | 04:33 |
| dazza | maddin: depends on your client, but /join #channelname will probably work | 04:33 |
| maddin | first time i use the irc..thx | 04:33 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: helps to carry all your .deb files on a usb drive or similar :) | 04:33 |
| maddin | i'll try it | 04:33 |
| SecrethX | hmm | 04:34 |
| SecrethX | but on the Ubuntu live cd (not kubuntu) I installed a program called QTParted and it stays | 04:34 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: you could always remaster the CD to include the codecs by default... but that's a fairly ambitious project :) | 04:34 |
| SecrethX | hehe | 04:34 |
| dazza | are you sure it wasn't installed already? qtparted is a pretty popular app | 04:35 |
| SecrethX | nope it wasn't | 04:35 |
| SecrethX | I needed to download it via apt | 04:35 |
| cyne | how do i restart samba? | 04:36 |
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| nikkia | cyne, sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart | 04:37 |
| dazza | cyne: sudo /etc/init.d/?mbd restart | 04:37 |
| SecrethX | lol | 04:37 |
| dazza | oh, do what nikkia says, smarter than me... | 04:37 |
| cyne | nice, kthx ;) | 04:37 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: there's no way software installed on a live cd can survive a reboot, because the setup on the CD can't be changed | 04:38 |
| SecrethX | well, believe me or not. It did. | 04:38 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: try it again ;) | 04:39 |
| SecrethX | well, I'm now on the kubuntu live cd | 04:39 |
| SecrethX | so I cant | 04:39 |
| dazza | did you save your system config to an image? | 04:39 |
| dazza | oh wait never mind, that's a knoppix thing heh | 04:39 |
| SecrethX | No. | 04:39 |
| SecrethX | could be | 04:39 |
| SecrethX | I don't know that much of ubuntu | 04:39 |
| SecrethX | I'm a starter | 04:39 |
| dazza | what do u think so far? | 04:40 |
| cyne | i love vmware.. i installed win xp in vmware 5.5 and mapped drive Z: to my /home/cyne | 04:40 |
| SecrethX | Its cool | 04:40 |
| SecrethX | :) | 04:40 |
| dazza | cyne: there's a similar package in the ubuntu repositories called qemu | 04:40 |
| dazza | cyne: not quite as schmick as vmware i don't think, but does the same job :) | 04:40 |
| cyne | nice | 04:41 |
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| dazza | cyne: and it allows to run linux on windows... so you could easily run linux... on windows.. on linux :) | 04:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | any ops for ubuntu here? they need some.... | 04:42 |
| dazza | no but i can say bad things about the nasty people! | 04:42 |
| cyne | dazza, yes indeed | 04:43 |
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| SecrethX | I think I preferr kubuntu instead of Ubuntu.. | 04:44 |
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| chx | I lost printer functionality (oldish , paralell, non-GDI, HP Laserjet 6M laser) when upgrading to Breezy :( | 04:45 |
| chx | cupsd is running | 04:45 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: me too :) | 04:46 |
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| SecrethX | it has a nicer interface | 04:46 |
| SecrethX | :) | 04:46 |
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| gibarian | hey everyone...I'm having a bit of trouble with my upgrading to breezy...anyone ready to do some troubleshooting? | 04:47 |
| gibarian | anyone? | 04:48 |
| gibarian | allllrighty then... | 04:48 |
| SecrethX | does Konversation has multiserver support? | 04:48 |
| dazza | gibarian: ask away, someone will probably answer :) | 04:48 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: i've never used it but i'm pretty sure it does | 04:49 |
| chx | Secreth yes | 04:49 |
| SecrethX | err | 04:49 |
| SecrethX | k | 04:49 |
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| SecrethX | how chx? | 04:49 |
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| gibarian | ok...as dpkg is trying to install my packages, I'm getting a few errors with broken pipes, pngs which can't be overwritten, but cannot be force-installed either, because some dependencies are missing...is there a way to exclude some packages from the downloaded ones, in order to allow other ones to install? | 04:51 |
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| dazza | gibarian: did you do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? | 04:52 |
| SecrethX | chx how? | 04:52 |
| gibarian | well, I initially starte out with synaptic, then, after a few errors switched to apt-get and did the dist-upgrade | 04:53 |
| gibarian | and I lost my ability to correctly place commas on the way | 04:54 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: /server <servername> | 04:55 |
| dazza | a new tab will open | 04:55 |
| SecrethX | ya | 04:55 |
| SecrethX | just founded | 04:55 |
| SecrethX | thanks | 04:55 |
| dazza | gibarian: you could use dpkg to remove the offending packages, like sudo dpkg --remove <package-name> | 04:56 |
| dazza | gibarian: i don't know about the broken pipes though | 04:56 |
| chx | SecrethX I just use /server foo | 04:56 |
| SecrethX | !windowsdrives | 04:57 |
| ubotu | from memory, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically | 04:57 |
| gibarian | dazza: alright, thanks... | 04:57 |
| dazza | gibarian: and you can manually install packages with sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archive/<somefile> | 04:57 |
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| dazza | gibarian: also, try dpkg --force-help, dpkg allows much more "forcing" than standard apt :) | 04:58 |
| chx | dazza: that's a dangerous path | 04:58 |
| dazza | gibarian: it could be that dpkg --force-all /var/cache/apt/archive/* works for you, but i would probably try something else first :) | 04:58 |
| dazza | chx: yea, but his system is already in a somewhat broken state | 04:59 |
| SecrethX | god damn | 04:59 |
| SecrethX | It still wont work | 04:59 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: the konversation thing? it worked for me | 05:00 |
| SecrethX | nono | 05:00 |
| SecrethX | kaffeine | 05:00 |
| SecrethX | and amarok | 05:00 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: kaffeine has always been a bit strange, try totem or xine instead :) | 05:00 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: amarok works okay for me most of the time though | 05:01 |
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| gibarian | dazza: thanks...I've already been forcing all kinds of things via dpkg...somehow, after letting the dist-upgrade run a few times, it seems to pick up more and more packages...maybe sometime tonight I'll have everything unpacked and installed ;) | 05:01 |
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| dazza | gibarian: hehe interesting procedure :) | 05:01 |
| SecrethX | dazza | 05:02 |
| SecrethX | amarok sais this: | 05:02 |
| SecrethX | the gst-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files | 05:02 |
| dazza | gibarian: beware the changed font paths, you may find X unbootable (though they might have fixed that by now, it was a couple of weeks ago when i upgraded) | 05:02 |
| SecrethX | You may want to choose a different engine from the configure dialog or examine the | 05:03 |
| SecrethX | blablabla | 05:03 |
| gibarian | dazza: oh...and how I exactly do I "beware"? | 05:03 |
| dazza | gibarian: make sure you know how to change the font path in xorg.conf if the system doesn't boot :) | 05:04 |
| gibarian | dazza: alright...that I don't...any pointers? | 05:04 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: there's legal issues with mp3 support, not sure what you have to do to get it up and going though | 05:04 |
| SecrethX | can you play them? | 05:06 |
| dazza | gibarian: if X doesn't start you will be able to login via the console. use 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' to edit the file, and where you see the lines reading 'FontPath "/usr/whatevertheoldfontpathwas"' you'll need to change the path to '/usr/share/X11/fonts' | 05:06 |
| dazza | Secreth`X: yes | 05:07 |
| gibarian | dazza: thanks a lot...I think I'll check out the conf file right now, seeing that X is still working | 05:07 |
| dazza | gibarian: good idea :) | 05:07 |
| SecrethX | what did you do then dazza? | 05:07 |
| dazza | SecrethX: i wish i could remember! it almost certainly involves installing something from restricted or universe | 05:07 |
| gibarian | oi...my QT apps already look kinda borked | 05:08 |
| dazza | SecrethX: i've had it working for over a year or something | 05:08 |
| dazza | gibarian: probably a font issue :) or maybe the default theme has changed | 05:08 |
| SecrethX | :o | 05:09 |
| gibarian | dazza: they look a bit gimpish... | 05:09 |
| SecrethX | well I dont know what the problem is.. | 05:09 |
| SecrethX | I installed the w32codecs | 05:09 |
| SecrethX | I did | 05:09 |
| SecrethX | !restricted | 05:09 |
| ubotu | somebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats | 05:09 |
| SecrethX | and then It should work | 05:09 |
| dazza | SecrethX: from what i remember w32codecs is mostly video codecs... mp3 support is native to most apps | 05:10 |
| gibarian | dazza: the path in my conf file is /usr/local/share/fonts ....is that the wrong version? | 05:10 |
| dazza | gibarian: i believe so yes, mine is /usr/share/X11/fonts. you might want to make a backup of your xorg.conf and change your font paths once the install is complete (and before you reboot) | 05:11 |
| SecrethX | !wine | 05:12 |
| gibarian | dazza: alright, thanks a lot...if everything goes well, I'll see you on the other side in a bit ;) | 05:12 |
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| dazza | SecrethX: is akode-mpeg installed? | 05:14 |
| SecrethX | err | 05:14 |
| SecrethX | no | 05:14 |
| dazza | SecrethX: on that link you gave me, the advice is to install that package for mp3 support | 05:14 |
| SecrethX | yea | 05:15 |
| SecrethX | but | 05:15 |
| SecrethX | It gived this | 05:15 |
| SecrethX | wait | 05:15 |
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| SecrethX | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install akode-mpeg | 05:16 |
| SecrethX | Reading package lists... Done | 05:16 |
| SecrethX | Building dependency tree... Done | 05:16 |
| SecrethX | E: Couldn't find package akode-mpeg | 05:16 |
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| dazza | SecrethX: you need to edit your sources.conf as per the instructions on that page | 05:17 |
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| SecrethX | sources.list? | 05:17 |
| dazza | SecrethX: to add a new download source somewhere in the netherlands or something where patent law doesn't rule supreme :) | 05:17 |
| SecrethX | < is from belgium :p | 05:18 |
| SecrethX | !akode-mpeg | 05:18 |
| ubotu | SecrethX: Do they come in packets of five? | 05:18 |
| SecrethX | !akode | 05:18 |
| ubotu | I don't know, SecrethX | 05:18 |
| SecrethX | !restricted | 05:18 |
| ubotu | restricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats | 05:18 |
| dazza | SecrethX: read the section codecs and DVD-Video | 05:19 |
| SecrethX | I'v red it | 05:19 |
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| SecrethX | :o | 05:19 |
| dazza | SecrethX: it explains there how to add the server to sources.list | 05:19 |
| SecrethX | yes, but WICH server do I need? | 05:20 |
| dazza | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main | 05:20 |
| SecrethX | k | 05:20 |
| dazza | it's all on that page | 05:20 |
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| SecrethX | dazza | 05:24 |
| SecrethX | I added the server | 05:24 |
| pointwood | hrm...I thought the next kubuntu release would be with kde 3.5 | 05:24 |
| SecrethX | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install akode-mpeg | 05:24 |
| SecrethX | Reading package lists... Done | 05:24 |
| SecrethX | Building dependency tree... Done | 05:24 |
| SecrethX | E: Couldn't find package akode-mpeg | 05:24 |
| SecrethX | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ | 05:24 |
| SecrethX | oh | 05:25 |
| SecrethX | I know why | 05:25 |
| SecrethX | W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90 | 05:25 |
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| dazza | SecrethX: there's a command line option to ignore that... | 05:26 |
| dazza | i don't remember what it is though | 05:26 |
| SecrethX | hehe | 05:26 |
| SecrethX | man apt-get update ? | 05:27 |
| dazza | that would be a good place to start yes :) | 05:27 |
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| dazza | it's too late for me though, i'm heading off | 05:28 |
| dazza | good luck SecrethX | 05:28 |
| dazza | bye! | 05:28 |
| SecrethX | ok | 05:28 |
| SecrethX | cya | 05:28 |
| SecrethX | thanks | 05:28 |
| SecrethX | bye | 05:28 |
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| robin | hi, I just installed RC1 and i'm very happy with it, but my resolution is stuck at 1280x1024 while I did select 1920x1200 (which is my native res for TFT). | 05:35 |
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| jsubl2 | robin you may need to enter your monitor resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 05:41 |
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| jsubl2 | robin see this web page for some info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28resolution%29%7C%28video%29 | 05:42 |
| robin | jsubl2: the resolution is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 05:42 |
| jsubl2 | yes | 05:42 |
| jsubl2 | that wiki page should explain very well | 05:42 |
| robin | jsbul2: i mean, the only resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is 1920x1200 | 05:42 |
| robin | jsubl2: but i will take a look at the wiki | 05:42 |
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| jsubl2 | robin you sure your monitor is capable of 1920x1200 | 05:51 |
| robin | jsubl2: yes | 05:52 |
| robin | jsubl2: i'm running 1920x1200 in windows.. and the specs say 1920x1200. It is the native resolution. | 05:53 |
| robin | jsubl2: it's a 24'' TFT. | 05:53 |
| Tm_T | uhhhuh | 05:53 |
| jsubl2 | you probably need to enter your HorizSync and VertRefresh like it says on the wiki page | 05:53 |
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| robin | jsubl2: k | 05:54 |
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| jsubl2 | then restart X.. ctrl-alt-backspace from the kdm login screen | 05:54 |
| jsubl2 | the HorizSync and VertRefresh rates should be in the manual for the monitor or on the documentation cd that came with it | 05:55 |
| robin | jsubl2: ok, thx | 05:55 |
| nikkia | afternoon apokryphos | 05:55 |
| apokryphos | hi | 05:56 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: you know, composite is actually decent enough to run on a daily-ish basis | 05:58 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: depends if you use GL much | 05:58 |
| kkathman | good day all :) | 05:58 |
| apokryphos | only disable it temporarily for watching films or intensive things like compiling | 05:58 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: i use it in the line of work, so random crashes == not good | 05:58 |
| apokryphos | haven't had a single crash yet; and it's been on for over a day now | 05:58 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: have you tried running GL apps ? :) | 05:59 |
| apokryphos | no; like what? | 05:59 |
| kkathman | Tm_T: o/ | 05:59 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: *shrug* glxgears would be a test, but not perhaps a very good one :) | 05:59 |
| apokryphos | I never use them; could try now | 06:00 |
| apokryphos | heh; seems to be fine | 06:00 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: translucensy doesn't work on it at all though | 06:00 |
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| nikkia | apokryphos: no, it wouldn't | 06:01 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: there is of course other little bugs; like Kopete window staying as inactive translucency after being moved (for some odd reason), and window-resizing makes things ugly at times | 06:01 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: i got random crashes of X with glx and composite enabled (and used) | 06:01 |
| Tm_T | kkathman: hey you o/ | 06:01 |
| Tm_T | kkathman: how are you? | 06:02 |
| apokryphos | I must be lucky =) | 06:02 |
| kkathman | Tm_T: good good...and you? | 06:02 |
| Tm_T | kkathman: pretty good, back hurting but other is fine | 06:02 |
| kkathman | Tm_T: what did you do to your back? | 06:03 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: suffice it to say it's cool that I can be on a full screen Konqueror and still view IRC :P | 06:03 |
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| Tm_T | kkathman: it's just me, something is always hurting | 06:04 |
| Tm_T | kkathman: can't sleep well so I'm bit "out" but feeling ok | 06:05 |
| kkathman | Tm_T: you know, I used to have that, but then I started getting a massage every week, and havent had probs in over 2 years ! | 06:05 |
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| nikkia | tm_t my mouth hurts atm :( | 06:07 |
| kkathman | Tm_T: I started going to a chiropractor, who isnt your typical one, and I have him examine and align me each week along with getting an hour massage | 06:07 |
| apokryphos | wow, pretty nice. Has anyone here tried YaKuake? | 06:07 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: Greetings! what is it? | 06:08 |
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| apokryphos | kkathman: Hi; seems to be a tweaked konsole; has a few nice things | 06:08 |
| kkathman | sounds good. Im still on hoary with KDE 3.4.0, so Im back in the stone age I suppose...but all my Linux boxes are very stable :) | 06:09 |
| apokryphos | http://kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=29153 | 06:09 |
| apokryphos | 3.4 is not really old; I'm using it here | 06:09 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: i refuse to use any terminal app that has a name that sounds like 'bukake' :) | 06:10 |
| kkathman | I will probably upgrade to breezy when it goes official next week | 06:10 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: But upgrading to breezy is a chore for me cuz I have 3 boxes here...all different hardware configurations and I share them all on a network with windows boxes too | 06:11 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: why is that a chore? :P | 06:11 |
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| kkathman | apokryphos: well, one of the linux boxes is my main that I do development on...its KDE based. One is an old Dell, that I use for backup and part time file server and it runs just base Gnome. The third is an HP with 96MB memory, and its just a file server that runs a command line :) | 06:13 |
| kkathman | so its like three different procedures :) | 06:13 |
| kkathman | but hopefully its as simple as your basic dist-upgrade | 06:14 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: surely it's exactly the same process for each one :P. Alter sources.list, then dist-upgrade | 06:14 |
| kkathman | right but I have heard there are some glitches in the nVidia? | 06:14 |
| apokryphos | I think most of those bugs are squashed | 06:14 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: great to hear...the official is next Friday right? | 06:15 |
| apokryphos | Next Thursday | 06:15 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: great to hear...when I do the dist-upgrade, will that automatically upgrade my KDE or will I need to do that separately? | 06:17 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: make sure you've got kubuntu-desktop installed, and yes -- it will do it all. | 06:17 |
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| kkathman | apokryphos: when I installed originally, I did a clean install with hoary and gnome, then did the apt-get on kubuntu-desktop | 06:18 |
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| loic | quit | 06:18 |
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| apokryphos | ok | 06:18 |
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| kkathman | apokryphos: I always do that just so I will have a backup GUI if something goes wrong with KDE...which it never did | 06:19 |
| spiral | hmmm, are kubuntu.org repos down ? | 06:19 |
| kernoman | anyone help me to reset the konqueror views? i have no file management view and the load view profile option is not in the settings menu... | 06:19 |
| kkathman | kernoman: Cant you just tailor your view and do a save profile? | 06:20 |
| spiral | Err http://kubuntu.org breezy/main Packages | 06:20 |
| spiral | 404 Not Found | 06:20 |
| kernoman | i cant get it to look like a file manager view with the left and right panes for some reason | 06:20 |
| kkathman | kernoman: Hmmm I had a bit of a struggle with that at first, but it just took some tweaking on my part | 06:21 |
| kkathman | kernoman: do you have ANY profiles at all? | 06:21 |
| kernoman | why has it changed fromt he default konqueror view? that was fine and is fine in other distros? | 06:21 |
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| kernoman | no they all apepar to look the same no matter which i choose | 06:22 |
| kkathman | kernoman: start by opening up Konq and then go to the "command line" and choose a file location, not a URL...that should get your started... | 06:22 |
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| kkathman | kernoman: Then go to VIEW and choose the View Mode option | 06:23 |
| kkathman | kernoman: then simply tweak that, then save your profile | 06:23 |
| kernoman | ive chose /home and tried all the view modes and none of them give me the tree down left side with the service bar or what ever its called, you know the one with the icons on | 06:24 |
| kernoman | i alwasy get a single page like web browser mode | 06:24 |
| kkathman | kernoman: you can also go to the WINDOW menu and choose things like | 06:25 |
| bdmp | What is the command to find out my ip address | 06:25 |
| kkathman | kernoman: Split Left-right etc | 06:25 |
| TokenBad | how come can't get azureus from apt-get? | 06:25 |
| kernoman | i have no window menu.... | 06:25 |
| kkathman | kernoman: use that Window->Split Left Right option | 06:25 |
| kernoman | i dont have that option... ive looked everywhere for it | 06:26 |
| kernoman | im using the brezy release by the way | 06:26 |
| kkathman | kernoman: hmm... cant imagine why they'd change Konq tho | 06:27 |
| bdmp | tokenbad, you gotta get the right repositories | 06:27 |
| bdmp | follow this faqhttp://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf.html | 06:27 |
| kernoman | theyve also changed the control panel for the worse... | 06:27 |
| kernoman | dummed it down too much | 06:27 |
| kkathman | kernoman: At the top of the browser, on the menu, you dont have a "Window" option, should be to the left of "Help" | 06:27 |
| TokenBad | yeah | 06:27 |
| TokenBad | got it now | 06:28 |
| TokenBad | but gotta have java installed | 06:28 |
| TokenBad | heheh | 06:28 |
| TokenBad | so now gotta install java | 06:28 |
| kernoman | nope not there just got location,edit,view,bookmarks,toosl,settings,help | 06:28 |
| TokenBad | for kubuntu what should I install for java? | 06:29 |
| kkathman | kernoman: hmm...well thats odd and uncomfortable | 06:29 |
| kkathman | I tend not to use the Konq file manager myself...I use the command line mostly | 06:30 |
| kkathman | kernoman: but I think there are other file managers out there | 06:30 |
| kernoman | i really liked konq until i installed breezy, im sure this cant be the standard for it now cause it plain sux | 06:31 |
| kkathman | Tm_T: do you know anything about these new Konq changes? | 06:31 |
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| kkathman | kernoman: you might check to see if you could use the previous version of Konq | 06:33 |
| TokenBad | what apt-get command should I use to install java? | 06:34 |
| kkathman | kernoman: remember that Konq isnt "a part" of breezy, its just another application, so it probaby isnt breezy that is the issue | 06:34 |
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| kernoman | yeah im just searching through the lubuntu forums, i cant be the only one whos noticed this, konq in breezy seems very flakey in general i.e. sometimes the invert selection is not available either.. | 06:34 |
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| kernoman | definately only has the web browsing profile, no others exist | 06:36 |
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| kkathman | kernoman: try this page and see what you can discover: http://www.konqueror.org/ | 06:36 |
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| kkathman | kernoman: you might also want to report that to someone like apokryphos or Riddell | 06:37 |
| kernoman | reading that already | 06:37 |
| `Nomad | Hi.. I need to update the "Windows Installer" in my wine installation on linux.. Any pointers as to how I do this? | 06:37 |
| `Nomad | well on Kubuntu actually :) | 06:38 |
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| apokryphos | kkathman: I'm no dev :) | 06:39 |
| apokryphos | though, Konqueror has been having some issues with different viewmodes; I believe the way it's handled has changed, and it's not done via konquerorrc anymore | 06:39 |
| apokryphos | these'll probably be resolved for breezy final | 06:39 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: well yah but you know what to do when a bug is found I'd figger :) | 06:40 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: See I knew you would know :) | 06:40 |
| TokenBad | what apt-get command should I use to install java? | 06:40 |
| kernoman | so its a known bug? | 06:40 |
| apokryphos | kernoman: a quasi-known but not reported bug. I think it would be a good idea to compile a bug report, so it's easy to keep track of too | 06:41 |
| kkathman | Konq may be a reason to stay on hoary for a while, if you use it alot | 06:41 |
| kkathman | I could never get the left and right view panes to synchronize, like windows explorer..which I personally prefer | 06:42 |
| kernoman | i cant beleive it is so close to release and there is such a big bug in konq, the bug has been introduced somewhere cause previous versions work fine. Can anyone else here whos using breezy confirm they too have the same problem? | 06:42 |
| Tm_T | what problem? | 06:43 |
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| kernoman | no window menu option and no option to laod a view profile, if you do it from command line passing profile to use it always uses web profile | 06:43 |
| apokryphos | kernoman: why not? RC-stage isn't meant to be bug-free, entirely. | 06:43 |
| kernoman | i think the file manager should at least work? | 06:44 |
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| kkathman | kernoman: Like I said you might want to invest working with your command-line skills...I find that to be all I need | 06:44 |
| Tm_T | kernoman: I do have window menu entry and I can load profiles | 06:44 |
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| kernoman | thanks for confirming that then there must be a problem somewhere on my system, any ideas what i can check? | 06:45 |
| Tm_T | kernoman: you have broken konqi? | 06:45 |
| Tm_T | uh | 06:45 |
| kernoman | looks that way thats why I was supprised that this could be a bug :) | 06:45 |
| apokryphos | Tm_T: no, a few others have had it too; all the view modes don't show for me too | 06:46 |
| kernoman | what config files does it try to load? | 06:46 |
| apokryphos | Tm_T: does konqueror --profile filemanagement work for you? | 06:47 |
| apokryphos | * kernoman | 06:47 |
| Tm_T | :) | 06:47 |
| kernoman | yup? | 06:47 |
| Tm_T | but I upgraded from hoary | 06:47 |
| kernoman | i mean nope | 06:47 |
| apokryphos | kernoman: it doesn't load? What's the error? | 06:48 |
| Tm_T | and all working ok | 06:48 |
| kernoman | if i use --profile filemanagement i get web :-) | 06:48 |
| Xorlev | Need a little help with Kubuntu Breezy...I just installed it clean from the Kubuntu Breezy Preview disk onto a separate partition than my normal system. It seems to work perfectly other than one thing: the mouse is messed up. The mouse moves, the programs work, but unable to click or hover over anything. I can select UI elements with my keyboard and use them, but the mouse refuses to work correctly. Once when I removed my USB mouse and plugged in a | 06:48 |
| Xorlev | PS/2 mouse it started working correctly, but then after a reboot it did the same thing with the PS/2 mouse. I also upgraded completely (apt-get update, apt-get upgrade) and the same symptoms before and after. | 06:48 |
| kernoman | no error | 06:48 |
| apokryphos | Tm_T: same; under View -> view modes how many do you have there? | 06:48 |
| apokryphos | heh | 06:48 |
| Tm_T | apokryphos: over ten | 06:48 |
| apokryphos | kernoman: compile a bug report; mentioning all those things (No Window menu, lacking many view modes, and the --profile filemanagement -> browser mode) | 06:49 |
| Tm_T | apokryphos: not enough, but a good start I guess | 06:49 |
| kernoman | i have 9 in view modes | 06:49 |
| Tm_T | :/ | 06:49 |
| Tm_T | it's not too late to get more ;) | 06:50 |
| kernoman | oh well | 06:50 |
| apokryphos | heh; /me has 3 | 06:50 |
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| apokryphos | don't mind me | 06:51 |
| apokryphos | I forgot view mode is relative to what page you're currently on. Duh. | 06:51 |
| Tm_T | hah | 06:51 |
| kernoman | any other good gui filemanagers out there i can use in mean time? | 06:51 |
| apokryphos | err, now I'm getting profiles mixed up with view modes | 06:51 |
| apokryphos | argh | 06:51 |
| kernoman | lol | 06:51 |
| apokryphos | kernoman: so Settings -> Load view profile you have...how many? | 06:52 |
| Tm_T | haha | 06:52 |
| kernoman | i dont have that option in the settings menu | 06:52 |
| apokryphos | :/ | 06:52 |
| kernoman | tis borked | 06:52 |
| Tm_T | kernoman: I can feel your pain | 06:53 |
| Tm_T | kernoman: then use Konsole, it's ok too | 06:53 |
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| kkathman | Tm_T: I cant say that I use Konq for much of anything...I set up shares for all my machines, and copy between them with it, and thats about it | 06:54 |
| kernoman | i use console but im lazy and cant be arsed to type :-) | 06:54 |
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| kkathman | I dont even use it for a web browser | 06:54 |
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| apokryphos | unless it's a wget | 06:55 |
| kernoman | i guess im not l337 enough ;-) | 06:55 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: lol...sorry I wasnt clear...I dont use Konqy for a web browser | 06:55 |
| kernoman | thanks for the advice though guys, im off to stare at the konsole for a bit. | 06:56 |
| bdmp | I am doing networking and trying to get in to my linux box from a windows comp, but when I try to get in to the linux box it asks for a password. It is not my root password and I didn't set any other ones. Does anybody know how I can change the password or what the password is? | 06:56 |
| kkathman | bdmp: you need to set up a credentials file | 06:57 |
| Tm_T | kkathman: I use Konqi as web browser and filebrowser when it's faster and easier to use it | 06:57 |
| kkathman | bdmp: I assume you are using samba? | 06:58 |
| bdmp | yes | 06:58 |
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| kkathman | bdmp: have you set up a samba password? | 06:59 |
| bdmp | no | 06:59 |
| bdmp | Do you know how to set one up throught the gui? | 07:02 |
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| kkathman | bdmp: theres a few things you have to do | 07:02 |
| kkathman | bdmp: Can you do a smbtree and see the other machines on your network? | 07:03 |
| kkathman | if so, thats a good thing | 07:03 |
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| bdmp | yeah | 07:04 |
| bdmp | i am trading files too | 07:04 |
| bdmp | i just cant get in to the linux box | 07:05 |
| kkathman | bdmp: are you trying to see linux directories on your windows box, or see windows drives on the linux box? | 07:05 |
| bdmp | I can move files off the linux box to the other comps | 07:05 |
| kkathman | ahh ok | 07:05 |
| bdmp | i just need the password | 07:05 |
| kkathman | bdmp: I think there is a wiki for that..let me check | 07:06 |
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| bdmp | pk thanks | 07:06 |
| TokenBad | ok question | 07:06 |
| TokenBad | I install azureus | 07:06 |
| TokenBad | how come I don't see it in the menu | 07:07 |
| bdmp | check under the debian section | 07:07 |
| bdmp | maybe | 07:07 |
| kkathman | bdmp: try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29 | 07:08 |
| kkathman | bdmp: I have a detailed list of things I did, and can help you on a step by step, but its probably better if you try to work through it yourself that way you learn more :) | 07:10 |
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| bdmp | yeah | 07:10 |
| bdmp | thanks | 07:11 |
| Mars__^ | hi i have problem | 07:11 |
| kkathman | but in general, you have to setup your samba config file, then edit it for each share, then setup your samba credentials file and update your smb.config | 07:11 |
| Mars__^ | what i have to press to save file in pico, it is write: ^O save, but i dont know what does it mean | 07:11 |
| Mars__^ | ? | 07:11 |
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| kkathman | bdmp: I dont know if that page will give you all the steps | 07:15 |
| kkathman | bdmp: But Im pretty sure I got my info from those pages | 07:15 |
| robin | I like to play mp3 files with amarok. According to the FAQ on kubuntu.org I have to install the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages, but they are not in the repositories (also not in universe). I'm using breezy | 07:15 |
| kkathman | bdmp: Be sure that you have installed samba, samba-common and smbfs | 07:16 |
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| kkathman | bdmp: if that doesnt get you where you need to go, PM me and I will walk you through it | 07:18 |
| bdmp | I went under the local network browsing section in the settings and in my shared folder there was a box that said share with samba. I clicked that and now I can get in | 07:19 |
| bdmp | Im sorry, it was under file sharing not local network browsing | 07:19 |
| bdmp | I learned by windows so I am much better working in a gui than this command line jazz | 07:20 |
| bdmp | Thanks for your help | 07:20 |
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| robin | I like to play mp3 files with amarok. According to the FAQ on kubuntu.org I have to install the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages, but they are not in the repositories (also not in universe). I'm using breezy | 07:25 |
| apokryphos | robin: gstreamer0.8-mad is in Universe | 07:25 |
| apokryphos | (as is akode-mpeg) | 07:26 |
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| BurgerMann | Hi. Did anyone notice that multitasking suddenly doesn't work when a tooltip is active in Quanta+?? | 07:33 |
| robin | apokryphos: it seems I only had enabled the universe security repositories. | 07:33 |
| BurgerMann | It's a menace | 07:36 |
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| hyperactivecrond | ok i've got a problem... if i try to mount a cd image i get an error: | 07:56 |
| hyperactivecrond | chris@beanburrito:~$ sudo mount vtx-web.cdi loop -o loop | 07:56 |
| hyperactivecrond | Password: | 07:56 |
| hyperactivecrond | ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy | 07:56 |
| hyperactivecrond | mount: you must specify the filesystem type | 07:56 |
| hyperactivecrond | chris@beanburrito:~$ | 07:56 |
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| hyperactivecrond | how can i mount it? | 07:57 |
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| hyperactivecrond | any ideas? | 08:00 |
| duce | sorry, no | 08:02 |
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| gibarian | Hey everyone...upgraded to breezy...so hoe do I install the Automounter for USB sticks? | 08:07 |
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| joseph | Can anyone help me? My Kubuntu keeps freezing on me. | 08:11 |
| joseph | Hello? | 08:14 |
| gibarian | joseph: what's happening? | 08:15 |
| joseph | I don't know. | 08:15 |
| joseph | It just freezes on me. | 08:15 |
| gibarian | just the GUI? can you go to the terminals? | 08:16 |
| joseph | I don't know. | 08:16 |
| joseph | Lol. :( | 08:16 |
| gibarian | try ctrl+alt+f1 | 08:16 |
| joseph | I will next time it freezes. | 08:16 |
| joseph | I'll come back, and tell you guys. | 08:17 |
| gibarian | then log in as root and try killing X | 08:17 |
| gibarian | it'll restart the GUI automatically | 08:17 |
| joseph | How do I kill X? | 08:17 |
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| joseph | OK guys. | 08:21 |
| joseph | Now I have another question, how come whenever I start up IE6, it shuts down. | 08:21 |
| Tm_T | o k | 08:23 |
| Tm_T | joseph: please explain, you're using IE6? | 08:24 |
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| PieD | Hi | 08:24 |
| PieD | With breezy, a ""simplified"" konqueror appeared | 08:24 |
| PieD | but I want to switch back to the true konqueror | 08:24 |
| Tm_T | ? | 08:24 |
| PieD | how can I do so ? | 08:24 |
| Tm_T | simplified konqi?! | 08:25 |
| PieD | (the window menu was removed for instance, and that's horrible) | 08:25 |
| joseph | Tm_T, yes, my mom uses this computer also, some websites only support IE | 08:25 |
| PieD | "Simplified Konqueror" on http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/breezy-release-candidate.php | 08:25 |
| Tm_T | PieD: well, sounds more like a bug to me | 08:26 |
| PieD | Tm_T: I saw that on _every_ installation of breezy | 08:26 |
| Tm_T | PieD: I haven't | 08:26 |
| Tm_T | joseph: eh, you can use other browsers than IE just fine | 08:27 |
| joseph | Tm_T, how? | 08:27 |
| PieD | Tm_T: you have to use a clean profile to see that | 08:27 |
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| Tm_T | PieD: hmm, interesting | 08:28 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: ping | 08:28 |
| Tm_T | joseph: well, you use knoqueror? | 08:29 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: hi | 08:29 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: what's that thing PieD mentioned? | 08:29 |
| PieD | Tm_T: when reading the config files, I clearly see that they were cleaned | 08:29 |
| PieD | I consider this as an horrible thing | 08:29 |
| Tm_T | yes | 08:29 |
| Riddell | PieD: sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc | 08:31 |
| PieD | Riddell: thanks | 08:31 |
| Riddell | sudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror | 08:31 |
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| joseph | OK. | 08:32 |
| joseph | Yeah, I tried CTRL + ALT + F1.. | 08:32 |
| joseph | It didn't work. :( | 08:32 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: hmm, "simplified" ? | 08:32 |
| PieD | Riddell: I don't have any konqueror-orig.rc | 08:33 |
| Riddell | PieD: it's part of the konqueror package in breezy | 08:34 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: hmm? | 08:34 |
| TokenBad | how come once I installed azureus I don't see it in the menu? | 08:34 |
| PieD | Riddell: there is no such file | 08:35 |
| PieD | I'm sure of what I'm telling | 08:35 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: there's really have done something to konqueror? | 08:35 |
| PieD | I've got a breezy on my laptop | 08:35 |
| PieD | that's a clean installation | 08:35 |
| Riddell | PieD: ls /usr/share/apps/konqueror/ ? | 08:36 |
| Riddell | PieD: which breezy? | 08:36 |
| Riddell | don't think it was in breezy preview | 08:36 |
| PieD | I installed it using a CD downloaded two weeks ago | 08:36 |
| PieD | and I upgraded it | 08:36 |
| Riddell | yeah, you need a newer breezy | 08:36 |
| PieD | no, I won't reinstall, that's too much work | 08:36 |
| Riddell | 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu5 is the current | 08:37 |
| PieD | that's the aim of packages manager to upgrade packages without reinstalling everything | 08:37 |
| Riddell | PieD: rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror should do it anyway | 08:37 |
| TokenBad | apt-get dist-upgrade | 08:37 |
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| TokenBad | do that to update distro | 08:37 |
| TokenBad | I think | 08:37 |
| PieD | oops | 08:37 |
| PieD | I upgraded to konq 3.5 beta1 | 08:37 |
| PieD | I suppose that removed that file | 08:37 |
| Tm_T | PieD: that's what I'm using | 08:37 |
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| Drakeson | what do I need for mms:// ? | 08:39 |
| dooglio | mplayer | 08:39 |
| Drakeson | I am going to cut the fat and have only one of the media frameworks. mplayer, gstreamer, xine, ... which one do you suggest? | 08:41 |
| Tm_T | gstreamer | 08:41 |
| Drakeson | ok, let me go for it. but does it support anything mplayer plays? | 08:42 |
| Tm_T | dunno | 08:42 |
| robin | I know i can access the windows shares on another computer by using smb://. But how do I browse the local lan, to see which Windows PC's are online | 08:42 |
| robin | I now only can contact with smb://[ip] | 08:42 |
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| Drakeson | Tm_T: does it play video streams from net? (that's enough for me now!) | 08:44 |
| Tm_T | I think so | 08:45 |
| Tm_T | try | 08:45 |
| robin | nvm found it. | 08:46 |
| Drakeson | ok. thanks. I'll try :) | 08:46 |
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| PieD | see you later | 08:52 |
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| luckyaba | my amarok wont work. i think its the engine or something | 08:53 |
| Tm_T | luckyaba: haha, I just lost my amarok ;p | 08:53 |
| Tm_T | stopped playing | 08:54 |
| luckyaba | ggrrr i dont know if i like breezy | 08:55 |
| Tm_T | haha | 08:55 |
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| tenco | hi! what are the apt sources for breezy? | 09:03 |
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| luckyaba | there is nothing out there for breezt huh? | 09:05 |
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| mekgp | hey gang....somebody tell me where the info for adept is at?? must be blind... LOL | 09:17 |
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| Jago | is any one out there | 09:20 |
| mekgp | ...no doubt! LOL | 09:20 |
| mekgp | just you and me jago! ;) | 09:21 |
| frank23 | I can't get mp3s to play with any player with breezy kubuntu | 09:21 |
| Jago | hello i was woundering if you could help me get past the login screen | 09:21 |
| mekgp | ??? uh...err...your here already?? :D | 09:21 |
| Jago | i had to use the root login | 09:22 |
| mekgp | oh....whats it telling you when u try the correct login? | 09:22 |
| Jago | oh and i had the same problem with mp3s i had to use xmms and already have the coppied to my hard drive. | 09:23 |
| Jago | nothing it just reloads the kdm | 09:23 |
| frank23 | Jago: Xmms doesn't work either | 09:23 |
| Jago | are the files on your hard drive | 09:24 |
| Jago | or cd | 09:24 |
| frank23 | Jago: yeah | 09:24 |
| mekgp | hmmmm...outta my league i think | 09:24 |
| frank23 | Jago sounds works in all videos but nothing can read mp3s | 09:24 |
| frank23 | Jago: wait I just found that some mp3s work and some don't | 09:25 |
| Jago | how are you trying to play then? individually or as are you trying to playe the hole folder | 09:25 |
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| Jago | are telling it to load a directory or a song | 09:27 |
| frank23 | Jago: just a song in both cases | 09:27 |
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| Jago | try to just add the directory that mite help | 09:27 |
| frank23 | Jago: amarok works with the xine engine | 09:29 |
| frank23 | Jago: but only for some mp3s for me, not all | 09:29 |
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| Jago | i have had bad luck with amarok but ive heard its great if you can use it | 09:30 |
| beast | Jago: why have you had bad luck? | 09:30 |
| Jago | it wount work at all.... i think its a problem with my hardware realy | 09:31 |
| Jago | be couse my cd rom wount play cds on any software but some will play them if i copy them to a directory on my hard drive | 09:32 |
| Jago | i am not a comuter expert put i can normaly find a work around....some times | 09:33 |
| beast | Jago: have you tried playing your cd in kscd? | 09:33 |
| Jago | yeah no luck... | 09:34 |
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| Mars__^ | Hi | 09:34 |
| Mars__^ | Can someone give me a fovour? | 09:34 |
| Mars__^ | I need the file | 09:34 |
| Mars__^ | uhh | 09:34 |
| Mars__^ | /etc/apt/sources.list | 09:34 |
| beast | Jago: I think your first step would to get it working in kscd, that's the app that should play your cd immediately | 09:35 |
| Mars__^ | can someone give me all what is write in it on priv? | 09:35 |
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| Mars__^ | uhh | 09:35 |
| Mars__^ | i see noone id going to help me :/ | 09:35 |
| Mars__^ | thing is i have only one soource in it | 09:36 |
| mekgp | Mars: got to the Kubuntu FAQ's on the user's guide, there is a copy of it there | 09:36 |
| Mars__^ | and i have problem with downloadin by apt-get | 09:36 |
| Jago | how do i get a working version?, the one i have is the one that came from ubuntu? | 09:36 |
| beast | Mars__^: what are you running? breezy or hoary? | 09:36 |
| Mars__^ | hoary | 09:36 |
| jsubl2 | !sources | 09:36 |
| ubotu | sources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) | 09:36 |
| mekgp | thats it Mars....what ubotu has written. all the info is there | 09:36 |
| Mars__^ | oh great thanks | 09:37 |
| mekgp | now...to my question! where is the manual for adept?? the package manager in breezy?? anyone of you linux guru's know?? | 09:37 |
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| Jago | i use synaptic | 09:38 |
| Jago | sorry | 09:39 |
| mekgp | u using breezy Jago? | 09:39 |
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| Jago | i am not sure i thought that the dist upgrade would up grade me when the new one came out so how do i check | 09:39 |
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| Mars__^ | But it would be nice if someone could paste his own list of sources | 09:40 |
| Mars__^ | but | 09:41 |
| Mars__^ | no | 09:41 |
| mekgp | welllll...i wouldnt let dist-upgrade do it just yet. causes fubars! ;) if you dont have a fancy little kubuntu login box at startup, it ain't happened | 09:41 |
| Mars__^ | i have it | 09:41 |
| mekgp | Mars...you can right-click on the sources link and save a copy? then follow the modification suggestions listed and save it to use, would be much better....everyone has there own tweaks that would cause you problems using there's. | 09:42 |
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| mornfall | mekgp: adept doesn't come with a manual, sadly | 09:42 |
| mekgp | aahhhh...thanks mornfall | 09:43 |
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| joseph | Can anyone help me? Kubuntu keeps freezing on me. | 09:43 |
| mornfall | mekgp: on the other hand, the ui is hopefully easy enough to be figured out | 09:43 |
| mekgp | hhmmmm....for some reason it (adept) wont search for applications. ie: firefox | 09:44 |
| joseph | Can anyone help me? Kubuntu keeps freezing,. | 09:44 |
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| arcanistherogue | joseph: I get the same problem | 09:45 |
| arcanistherogue | joseph: When gaming, right? | 09:45 |
| joseph | Arcanisttherogue, no. Lol. :( | 09:45 |
| mekgp | you two use dist-upgrade to get to breezy? | 09:45 |
| joseph | No. | 09:45 |
| joseph | I downloaded Breezy from kubuntu.org | 09:45 |
| mekgp | hhhmmmm...not sure then | 09:46 |
| joseph | it happened on the old one too. | 09:46 |
| joseph | The version before Breezy Badger. | 09:46 |
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| mekgp | <makes me think its a hardware conflict> | 09:47 |
| joseph | it doesnt happen on any other OS. | 09:47 |
| joseph | Not windows, not Ubuntu, not Fedora Core. | 09:47 |
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| mekgp | freeze at login? using particular app? changing settings? | 09:47 |
| joseph | No. No. And, I don't think so. :S | 09:48 |
| mekgp | whats being done when it locks? | 09:48 |
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| joseph | i think.. | 09:49 |
| joseph | It may be due to me scrolling. | 09:49 |
| joseph | Whenever I scroll with my mouse a lot, it does that. I'm not sure though, since I only kept track since last time ti froze. | 09:49 |
| mekgp | desktop? laptop? | 09:50 |
| joseph | Desktop | 09:50 |
| sproingie | sounds unlikely unless you have some really funky mouse interface. anything in logs? | 09:50 |
| joseph | How do I check that? | 09:50 |
| sproingie | tail -n100 /var/log/messages | 09:50 |
| sproingie | don't scroll it back with your mouse though ;) | 09:50 |
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| mekgp | joseph<------froze looking at logs! lol | 09:51 |
| sproingie | also dmesg, though that's unlikely to tell you much after you've rebooted | 09:51 |
| joseph | No, I didn't froze. | 09:51 |
| joseph | *freeze, sorry I was reading logs. ;) | 09:52 |
| mekgp | wonder if unplug mouse when it freezes then re-plug would give indication of issue?? | 09:52 |
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| joseph | That might be it. | 09:52 |
| joseph | I'll try it next time. | 09:52 |
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| sproingie | usb mouse? | 09:52 |
| joseph | Yep. | 09:52 |
| sproingie | i've never heard of usb driver hosing the whole system | 09:52 |
| sproingie | i guess it's always possible | 09:52 |
| joseph | Well I can't even go to the terminal. | 09:53 |
| joseph | :( | 09:53 |
| mekgp | yep....hotplug system having glitch | 09:53 |
| joseph | When it freezes. | 09:53 |
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| sproingie | are you able to switch VC's? | 09:53 |
| joseph | VC? | 09:53 |
| mekgp | i noticed when upgrading that the hotplug subsys toooook forever to init... | 09:53 |
| joseph | :( | 09:53 |
| sproingie | virtual consoles. ctrl-alt-f1 will take you to the first vc | 09:53 |
| sproingie | then ctrl-alt f2-f6 for more of them | 09:53 |
| joseph | oh no. | 09:53 |
| joseph | I tried tha. | 09:54 |
| joseph | t | 09:54 |
| sproingie | and ctrl-alt-f7 is where X is | 09:54 |
| joseph | CTRL + ALT + F1 | 09:54 |
| joseph | It ddin't work. | 09:54 |
| mekgp | f7?? really? learn somethin' new everday! ;) | 09:54 |
| mekgp | <----newbie everytime something new comes up! ;) | 09:55 |
| joseph | Well it has not froze yet. | 09:55 |
| joseph | Usually it does. | 09:55 |
| sproingie | curious. happens only with breezy? | 09:55 |
| joseph | Nope. | 09:55 |
| sproingie | er you mentioned it happened with hoary too? | 09:55 |
| joseph | Only Kubuntu | 09:55 |
| joseph | Yeah. | 09:55 |
| joseph | That too. | 09:55 |
| joseph | I'm trying to switch to Linux permenantly. | 09:56 |
| joseph | But its not going so well. >< | 09:56 |
| sproingie | just kubuntu ... does it do it with vanilla ubuntu? | 09:56 |
| joseph | Nope. | 09:56 |
| joseph | Ubuntu runs fine. | 09:56 |
| sproingie | that's realy odd | 09:56 |
| joseph | I even ordered ten CDs, lol. :) | 09:56 |
| sproingie | kde does nothing new at the device level | 09:57 |
| joseph | maybe I should turn the performance thing down. | 09:57 |
| joseph | The Visual Quality. | 09:57 |
| sproingie | could be a video freeze | 09:57 |
| sproingie | what kind of card do you have? | 09:57 |
| joseph | Maybe.. | 09:57 |
| joseph | GeForce 6600 GT 128mb w/ DDR 3 | 09:58 |
| sproingie | should be pretty reliablee | 09:58 |
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| mekgp | let me jump in for sec....joseph? you had mp3 question earlier? | 09:58 |
| sproingie | what else you got on the USB bus? | 09:58 |
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| joseph | Hold on. | 09:59 |
| joseph | What did I say about MP3s? | 09:59 |
| joseph | Or w/e? | 09:59 |
| joseph | And what do you mean, waht else do I have on the USB Bus? | 09:59 |
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| sproingie | joseph: you got anything else plugged into a usb port? | 09:59 |
| mekgp | what else plugged in as USB? | 09:59 |
| joseph | Yeah.. | 10:00 |
| joseph | A printer. | 10:00 |
| sproingie | shouldn't matter | 10:00 |
| joseph | A mouse, keyboard, A sound thingy (3 cords) Internet cord, and my video thingy. | 10:00 |
| sproingie | i'm pretty stumped. maybe dialing down the visual quality would help | 10:00 |
| joseph | I don't think I answered that right though. | 10:00 |
| sproingie | er. sound and video thingy? | 10:00 |
| mekgp | lol | 10:00 |
| joseph | Oh, yeah, sorry. | 10:01 |
| joseph | The thing that connects hte monitor to the computer. | 10:01 |
| joseph | And the three sound codrs. | 10:01 |
| joseph | Plugged into my Mobo | 10:01 |
| sproingie | unless there's been major advances in usb since i last checked, your monitor probably isn't usb | 10:01 |
| mekgp | sproingie is asking only what is plugged into the 1/2" wide slots only... | 10:01 |
| joseph | Oh, I got confused, since you said did I have a USB mouse. | 10:02 |
| joseph | Or w/e. | 10:02 |
| joseph | I only have the printer hooked in there, I think. | 10:02 |
| joseph | Pretty sure. | 10:02 |
| sproingie | weird. have you updated recently? | 10:02 |
| joseph | ? | 10:02 |
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| sproingie | could hope it's a known bug and that it goes away :) | 10:02 |
| joseph | What? | 10:02 |
| joseph | Maybe. | 10:02 |
| joseph | It did that last time. | 10:02 |
| joseph | But Its frozen multiple times this time though. | 10:03 |
| joseph | But it hasn't frozen yet. | 10:03 |
| sproingie | are your fans running particularly loud? | 10:03 |
| mekgp | graphics.....i'd say graphics | 10:03 |
| joseph | They sonud the same. | 10:03 |
| joseph | IDK. | 10:03 |
| joseph | Maybe. | 10:03 |
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| sproingie | could be overheating, coincidence that it happens when you're running kubuntu ... i'm kind of stumped | 10:04 |
| joseph | BRB, bathroom. | 10:04 |
| sproingie | i'd turn down the eye candy effects and see if that stops it | 10:04 |
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| === sproingie has a super crappy fan on his vid card, gets video freezes all the time when playing games | ||
| joseph | OK back. | 10:06 |
| joseph | Well, I think my fans are pretty old. | 10:06 |
| joseph | But my PC never freezes or anything. | 10:06 |
| huhmz | Is it impossible to remove anything that kubuntu-desktop depends on such as k3b? (i dont have a burner) | 10:06 |
| sproingie | if it were heat it'd probably freeze when playing games | 10:06 |
| sproingie | huhmz: you can remove kubuntu-desktop if you want to go ala-carte. it's sort of all or nothing unless you can live with broken packages | 10:06 |
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| huhmz | oh well, it's not like i don't have the hdd space | 10:07 |
| sproingie | most of the dependencies of packages could have been suggests instead of requires | 10:08 |
| kkathman | sproingie: Hmm..I run kubuntu and dont have overheating issues | 10:08 |
| sproingie | for me it's not so much hdd space, it's all the thousands of files and crap that I have to keep track of | 10:08 |
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| kkathman | sproingie: dont you use a package manager? | 10:09 |
| sproingie | i mean, why am i required to have crap like ico and xeyes in order to have X? | 10:09 |
| sproingie | kkathman: of course I do | 10:09 |
| kkathman | okie doke then | 10:09 |
| sproingie | just that the package manager, pretty much all of them, not just apt, are unbelievably stupid | 10:10 |
| sproingie | X is hardly *broken* if i don't have ico. it's just "not at 100% spec" | 10:10 |
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| snarf | i hate it too, well used to hate it | 10:13 |
| snarf | but i mean, its only a gig or two installed, and i have several hundred | 10:13 |
| snarf | but on my laptop i see what you mean, only a 30 gb drive and all those junk packages i'd rather not have | 10:17 |
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| ppd | hello. does anybody here also have segmentation faults with amarok and wormux? | 10:40 |
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| jmg | hey all | 11:24 |
| jmg | is polymer anywhere in kubuntu yet? | 11:25 |
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| fate00 | does anyone know how to bridge a wired and wireless connection together in Linux? | 11:29 |
| fate00 | I do it on XP all the time | 11:30 |
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| AnGelo[1] | hello guys | 11:42 |
| beast | hi AnGelo[1] | 11:43 |
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| jago | hello | 11:47 |
| AnGelo[1] | hello | 11:47 |
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| ctw | Hi! Is there a way to install the latest realplayer version with apt-get or dpkg (i.e. is there a .deb file available)? | 11:58 |
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| ctw | I'm using breezy by the way ... | 11:59 |
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| Tm_T | ctw: I think no | 12:00 |
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