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Seveasmpt, lol :)12:05
mpt:-) goodnight12:08
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dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  fix for bug 2871: i set the launchpad team's emblem, and it appears lots of times. Use the correct method on Person, and add a title to the icon so people aren't so confused. Also Another externalsystem fix: cope with an unfindable version number, so I can debug better. Lintage. Prayers. And add a missing patch-log. (patch-2604: christian.reis@canonical.com)12:19
UbugtuMalone bug #2871: i set the launchpad team's emblem, and it appears lots of times Fix req. for: upstream launchpad, Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Christian Reis, Status: PendingUpload http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/287112:19
kikoFINALLY12:19
kikoFINALLY12:19
kikomy god12:19
kikothis was suffering at it's best12:19
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dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [r=salgado]  add a bugtarget search portlet (patch-2605: brad.bollenbach@canonical.com)01:04
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kikorock rock rock01:10
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dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: r=kiko Validate product series name using the right validator. Leftover of bug 355. Patch by Diogo Matsubara <matsubara@async.com.br> (patch-2606: christian.reis@canonical.com, matsubara@async.com.br)03:34
UbugtuError: Could not parse Data returned by Malone: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group'03:34
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hertzcan anyone tell me what is karma for and how it is working?05:23
ajmitchhertz: boasting to your friends :)05:30
hertzajmitch, :)05:32
hertzhttps://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/KarmaImplementation?highlight=%28karma%2905:32
hertzhttps://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/KarmaTypes?highlight=%28karma%2905:33
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dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Fix bug # 2944, Presenting buildlog properly in Soyuz. (patch-2607: celso.providelo@canonical.com)02:55
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offrayHi all03:05
offrayanybody awake?03:05
kikooffray, always03:06
kikomatsubara, yo?03:06
matsubara?03:09
offrayHi all. I'm a newbie on launchpad, but I like a lot the concept (its like sourceforge, but without burocracy and bloated things :))03:11
kikooffray, cool that you like the idea03:11
kikomatsubara, did you get my email? I'm still waiting for a reply (and another commit?) to merge03:12
offrayI'm wondering if its posible to start a project related with translation in Plone, but its not a software translation project, but a documentation translation project. In fact, Its part of a "new kind of translation project" i'm thinking on03:12
matsubarajust read it. I'm changing the tal names and will check the tests again03:14
zygisoffray, if your documentation is compatible with gnome-doc-utils, then you can export documentation in regular po files, then yes03:15
zygisoffray, see, how this is done in gnome http://kvota.net/doc-l10n/by-modules.html03:15
zygisthis is done with xml2po03:16
zygisand then back with po2xml03:17
offrayzygis, thanks, but I see that all this po files are for software. I want to translate the "Definitive Guide to Plone", at least in part03:17
offrayits document translation, not interface translation03:18
zygisoffray, well, XML format is *not* for software, it's for any use out there03:18
zygisas you can see from URL, this is not interface translations, but documentation translations03:19
offrayyea, I know, but my question is: Can launchpad be a place to start a documentation translation project even if it doesnt generate a po file or is not for a component of software03:19
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offrayohhh I see03:20
markumanhi all03:21
markumanfind and import my fingerprint dont work here03:21
markumanhttp://paste.debian.net/221003:21
zygisoffray, you see, you can convert plain documentation xml to standart po file03:21
offrayohhh ok03:22
zygisoffray, http://gnome.org/start/2.12/ look at the translations of this page03:24
zygisthey were done in the same manner03:24
zygisjust plain po files for translators03:24
zygis;)03:24
zygisthis is what I suggest you,since I know that this approach will work with launchpad for sure :)03:26
offrayOk. Thanks a lot zygis. I will to take a breakfast and give a look at it :)03:28
kikomarkuman, let me check that03:30
kikozygis, thanks for the help03:30
kikooffray, if you can generate pofiles, rosetta can help you translate03:30
kikomarkuman, was this generated just now?03:30
markumankiko no i tried this last week too. same error03:31
kikomarkuman, let me guess: your key is sign-only, right?03:31
zygisyou're welcome03:32
markumankiko, yes, my key is signed03:32
kikomarkuman, no, I meant your key is a sign-only key -- DSA (sign only)03:33
markumanhm03:33
kikomarkuman, can you --list-key?03:33
markumanyou mean on my system? but there are 2 other key from friends 03:34
markuman gpg --list-key DDE93F5403:34
markumanyou mean?`03:34
kiko--list-keys sorry03:34
kikoyep03:34
matsubarakiko, I'm fixing another broken pagetest related to targeting fix to release03:35
kikomatsubara, ah, rock n roll, thanks03:35
kikomatsubara, do you need help?03:35
markumankiko: did you mean this? http://paste.debian.net/221103:35
kikohttps://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/197203:36
UbugtuError: Could not parse Data returned by Malone: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group'03:36
matsubarai think i can handle it :) tks anyway03:36
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kikoSeveas, hey03:36
kikomarkuman, yeah, you have no subkey -- that's a sign-only key03:37
markumanuhm...so what i have to do???03:37
kikomarkuman, there's a bug that we currently don't support sign-only keys, unfortunately03:37
kikoyou can convert your key, I believe03:37
markumanhm03:38
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ddaahi offray, are you texmacs' "Offray Luna" by any chance?03:43
kikohey ddaa 03:44
ddaahi kiko03:45
ddaaI see matsubara is my new "fix registry for me" monkey ;)03:45
kikoddaa, we're working on it03:47
kikostill a lot to learn03:47
markumankiko: http://paste.debian.net/2212 can you watch at them?03:48
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Seveaskiko, hi04:08
kikoSeveas, did you see the exception above in Ubugtu?04:09
Seveasyeah04:09
Seveasit's because he cannot access that page04:09
kikoSeveas, okay, it should ideally return a nice error04:09
SeveasIt should :)04:09
Seveas(And it will in ~5 minutes)04:09
kikocool04:09
SeveasI thought all bugs were public and since the 'parser' is simply a regex, this is just an unforseen error04:10
kikosome are private because of larger code snippets I think04:12
kikomarkuman, that should work now -- have you tried?04:12
Seveashttps://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/197204:20
UbugtuError: I cannot access this bug04:20
Seveasthere :)04:20
kikocool!04:20
SeveasThat's the zillionth malone special case in the script :)04:20
kikoheh04:21
kikowelcome to the real world04:21
Seveas;)04:21
SeveasI'm gonna rewrite the plugin next week to handle these things more gracefully04:22
sivanghey guys, yo kiko didn't know there was so much action here on th saturday04:26
sivang:)04:26
kikosaturday rox04:26
markumankiko, same error04:28
\shkiko: right...u can drink alcohol while u r working ;)04:29
sivangkiko: I see alot of specs registered in the spec tracker, are those new or already tracking your work?04:29
kikotracking existing work04:29
sivangah I see, very nice btw04:31
kikoyeah, the tracker is quite neat04:31
sivangthe spec, support and sprint trackers are very interesting to me, duonno why :)04:32
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azeemHello.  How would I go forth requesting bazaar.ubuntu.com repos for the CVS modules at http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/hurd/ ?05:04
azeemSome of the respective developers would like to move to a distributed VC, and this might be a good place.  I cannot guarantee that it will be immmensely used, though05:04
kikoazeem, talk to jblack to get you guys set up on the supermirror05:05
kikoit should be pretty easy05:08
kikoazeem, and ddaa can get your CVS repository synced into bazaar in no time (usually)05:08
kikomarkuman, that's odd.05:09
kikoI'm adding a comment to the bug05:11
\shazeem: can u join -motu pls? :)05:13
ddaaazeem: first thing is to setup launchpad project/product for hurd05:13
ddaakiko: do we have a wiki page or something for that?05:13
azeemhaha, I thought ddaa was a script/program at first :)05:13
azeemhang on05:13
kikoazeem, he's one of those too05:13
kikoddaa, on setting up new products and projects? No, but the site should be self-explanatory :)05:14
ddaakiko: dude, people DO the wrong thing05:14
kiko:)05:14
kikothen we are not self-explanatory05:14
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ddaathe distinction between a product and project is neither simple, nor obvious, nor even clear cut.05:15
ddaaIt's nothing that can be explained in a few words.05:15
kikoit's also broken05:16
markumandamn and now?05:17
kikomarkuman, I'm confused. I thought the issue was with sign-only keys, but I am finding it's not. I'll need to delve into the gpgme code a bit05:18
kikomarkuman, you did --send-key after adding the new subkey, right?05:19
markumanof course ive send the key05:20
markumankiko: or can you insert my key manually ?05:28
kikomarkuman, hmmm, not easily05:32
kikoI needed Kinnison or lifeless to help me here05:32
markumanhm05:32
kikoor jamesh 05:32
kikomatsubara?05:33
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Kinnisoncprov might be able to help05:36
kikoKinnison, I just wanted you to check out his key05:37
markumanhm, im away now but will come back....05:37
matsubara?05:37
kikoKinnison, gpg --recv-key DDE93F5405:37
matsubarakiko?05:38
kikomatsubara, why did you change the user in tests 10 and 20?05:38
markumankiko, if youll find out something pls leave me a message on freenode05:38
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kikowill do05:39
kikothanks mark05:39
kikothanks marku05:39
kikoman05:39
matsubarafoo.bar user isn't needed to run those tests. You told me to change it, just left the needed ones.05:39
kikoah, rock05:39
kikoI didn't know05:40
kikodid you say explicitly where you used the foo.bar user that he was needed?05:40
matsubaranope. on those tests I didn't use the foo.bar. I'm doing this kind of change on ALL pagetests.05:41
Kinnisonkiko: Right, that's a 1024 bit DSA signing key, with an el-gamal encryption subkey05:41
Kinnisonself-signed05:41
kikoKinnison, should it work?05:41
Kinnisonand also signed by mvogt05:42
kikoKinnison, when I --list-key it it doesn't list a uid line05:42
kikowhich strikes me as odd05:42
Kinnisonby rights, it should05:42
Kinnisongpg --list-key DDE93F5405:42
Kinnisonpub   1024D/DDE93F54 2005-09-20 [expires: 2007-09-26] 05:42
Kinnisonuid                  Markus Bergholz (markuman) <markuman@gmail.com>05:42
Kinnisonsub   1024g/B825D25C 2005-09-20 [expires: 2007-09-25] 05:42
kikoweird05:43
kikonot for me05:43
kikoanyway05:43
Kinnisonthe packetstream seems clean05:43
kikoI thought adding the subkey would fix the problem05:43
KinnisonIs it causing problems with launchpad?05:43
kikoyes05:43
kikoit fails05:43
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kikowith the same error as bug 197205:43
UbugtuError: I cannot access this bug05:43
Kinnisonit's a seemingly sane looking subkey05:45
kikoso why does gpgme barf on it !#@!@05:46
Kinnisondunno05:46
Kinnisonespecially since gpgme runs gpg05:46
Kinnisonand gpg seems fine05:46
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kikothanks I really appreciate it05:46
kikocould it be the expiration?05:46
Kinnisonsince it's so long away, it's doubtful but possible05:47
Kinnisoneven so, it *should* be irrelevant05:47
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UbugtuError: I cannot access this bug05:47
KinnisonUbugtu: what are you and why do you keep wibbling on in-band?05:48
kikoKinnison, he's a bot05:49
Kinnisonwhose bot?05:50
kikoSeveas.05:50
Seveasmine, mpt asked for it to be here05:50
KinnisonSeveas: can it please not mumble in-band unless it has something positive to say?05:50
SeveasKinnison, sure05:50
KinnisonSeveas: esp. since it seems unable to access launchpad bugs05:50
Seveasit can, this bug is just restricted05:50
kikoKinnison, it can access launchpad bugs, just not private ones05:51
kikoI don't mind it complaining05:51
Seveasand kiko asked for it to give a sane error :)05:51
Kinnisonkiko: 1972 is showing as 'Secrecy: Public'05:51
Kinnisonor am I mad05:51
Kinnison?05:51
kikoyou are mad05:51
Seveaswell, Ubugtu and myself cannot access it05:51
kikoweird05:51
kikoweird05:51
kikoweird05:52
kikoyou can't see it Seveas? what happens?05:52
Seveasif i'm not logged in, i get redirected to the login page05:52
kikoand if you log in?05:52
SeveasSorry, you don't have permission to access this page.05:52
SeveasYou are logged in as Dennis Kaarsemaker.05:52
Seveas05:52
kikoah05:53
Kinnisonkiko: http://users.pepperfish.net/dsilvers/1972.png05:53
kikothat's cute05:53
kikoone of the dupes is private05:53
Kinnisonso the entire group is treated as such?05:53
kikoI'll fix it05:54
kikoand report a bug05:54
sivangKinnie!05:54
SeveasSo should I mute the errors or let it mumble in-band?05:54
kikoit's actually proven to point out a bug, so I think it's useful05:55
KinnisonSeveas: I think, the first time in a short period, it is asked to access a bug which is private, it should say... "I'm sorry, I am not permitted to access bug NNNN"05:55
KinnisonSeveas: but it shouldn't keep saying that every time someone mentions that bug during that conversation05:56
Seveasright, I was planning to put a timer in the rewritten plugin05:56
kikobug 197205:56
UbugtuMalone bug #1972: Problem validating sign-only GPG key Fix req. for: upstream launchpad, Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Celso Providelo, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/197205:56
kikoI roxoringor05:56
Seveasso this will be fixed next week05:57
KinnisonSeveas: that'd be cool, otherwise the next time I talk about bug 1972 we get spammed again.05:57
UbugtuMalone bug #1972: Problem validating sign-only GPG key Fix req. for: upstream launchpad, Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Celso Providelo, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/197205:57
Kinnisonsee :-)05:57
Seveasexactly05:57
Seveasthat was the original reason for the timer :)05:58
KinnisonSeveas: of course, if Ubugtu was addressed directly, it should disregard any timer issues05:58
Seveasof course05:58
KinnisonSeveas: E.g. if someone just logged into the channel we'd want to give them the info without having to wait for the timeout05:58
Seveasand the timer is per-channel05:58
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Seveasanyway, off to fix real life bugs (read: cleaning so my fiancee won't get mad)05:59
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KinnisonI hear ya06:00
Kinnisonkiko: I seriously can't find any reason for pyme to be barfing06:01
kikome neither06:01
kikostupid pyme06:01
kikoshould I sic jamesh on this bug?06:01
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Kinnisonhe's probably the best bet06:02
Lathiatinteresting, on techboard, communitycouncil and ubuntu-core-dev06:02
Lathiatthere is a member repated twice in all of them06:02
Kinnisonon the launchpad team listing?06:02
Lathiatyeh06:02
Lathiatmatthias klose in ubuntu-core-dev06:02
Lathiatmdz in techboard06:02
kikoLathiat, it's a bug -- stub is going to fix it06:02
Lathiatand cjwatcson in cc06:02
Lathiatkiko: ah ok06:02
Lathiatthats what iw as wondering06:02
Lathiat:)06:02
KinnisonLathiat: yeah, there was a team-membership related bug in people-merge06:03
KinnisonI think we fixed the bug and just need to clean up the fallout06:03
Lathiatpeople-merge?06:03
Lathiatah ok06:03
kikoyep06:03
KinnisonLathiat: yeah, if you find you have two launchpad accounts, you can merge them06:03
KinnisonLathiat: E.g. I had 'dsilvers' and 'kinnison'06:03
Lathiatah ok06:04
kikotime to skip out06:34
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dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: r=kiko Additional fixes for bug 2467 and 2468: deal with distro bugtasks with no source package name in some corner cases, adding tests for them. Patch by Diogo Matsubara <matsubara@async.com.br> (patch-2608: matsubara@async.com.br, christian.reis@canonical.com)07:07
UbugtuMalone bug #2467: System error when requesting fix in a distribution without specifying a source package Fix req. for: upstream malone, Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Diogo Matsubara, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/246707:07
KinnisonHmm, Ubugtu should probably ignore dilys07:08
KinnisonSeveas: ^^07:09
SeveasKinnison, http://ubuntulinux.nl/quotes?minid=1007:09
Seveas;)07:09
Seveasbut yeah, he should07:09
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Kinnisonheh07:11
Seveas<Seveas> ignore dilys!*@*07:12
Seveas<Ubugtu> The operation succeeded.07:12
Kinnisonoolio07:13
Kinnisons/^/c/07:14
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Lathiathrm, where do i find team creation?07:23
eruin,08:03
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urielI'm a bit confused, can I host a project in launchpad? so far I only found a page to "Register an upstream open source product", and well, I want launchpad to host the upstream version... maybe I'm reading the title of that page wrong...11:39
sivanguriel: launchapd can track upstream projects, it's not yet acting as a software repository but rather as a controlling eye on those that come off from sf.net , gnome.org, gnu etc.11:42
sivang(someone please correct me if I am talking rubbish)11:42
urielsivang: ok, I understand better now11:42
sivanguriel: so if you crate a bazaar archive somewhere of your software, you can then have launchpad track changes etc11:43
urielyea, I just was hopping it would host my bazaar archive too =)11:43
sivanguriel: which software product do you maintain?11:43
sivangKinnison: ping, you here?11:44
urielI'm discusing taking over: http://www.lava.net/~newsham/plan9/ from it's current maintainer, and I wanted a place to host it with baz11:44
urielI thought of moving to sf.net, but I dislike their whole system which is also rather unreliable, so I thought maybe launchpad would let me do the same and be more baz friendly too11:46
sivanguriel: take a look at supermirror, http://www.sourcecontrol.net11:51
sivanguriel: I think it's waht you look for, you can then link lauchpad to your repo there, AFAICT :)11:53
urielsivang: thanks, that sounds quite useful...11:54
urielsivang: are there any plans to make launchpad more or a sf.net replacement in the future? (being able to host a home page and so on all in the same place would be nice)11:54
sivanguriel: from what I've heared, in some point in the future launchapd could be used as such, not sure if it would be the actual source repository but that's no issue with it's ability to track upstream branches, so that's a partial yes =)11:56
sivanguriel: creating some sort of a home page, per team, per product I think already is possible, you shoudl talk to one of the devels here when they are not away, and get an authoritice answers :-)11:58
urielsivang: ok, cool :)11:59
urieleven more obviously stupid question: projects have to be related to ubuntu in any way? or any project is welcome?11:59
sivanguriel: any project, launchapd is designed for FOSS wide support =)12:02

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