[12:05] <Seveas> mpt, lol :)
[12:08] <mpt> :-) goodnight
[12:19] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  fix for bug 2871: i set the launchpad team's emblem, and it appears lots of times. Use the correct method on Person, and add a title to the icon so people aren't so confused. Also Another externalsystem fix: cope with an unfindable version number, so I can debug better. Lintage. Prayers. And add a missing patch-log. (patch-2604: christian.reis@canonical.com)
[12:19] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #2871: i set the launchpad team's emblem, and it appears lots of times Fix req. for: upstream launchpad, Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Christian Reis, Status: PendingUpload http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/2871
[12:19] <kiko> FINALLY
[12:19] <kiko> FINALLY
[12:19] <kiko> my god
[12:19] <kiko> this was suffering at it's best
[01:04] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [r=salgado]  add a bugtarget search portlet (patch-2605: brad.bollenbach@canonical.com)
[01:08] <bradb> later
[01:10] <kiko> rock rock rock
[03:34] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: r=kiko Validate product series name using the right validator. Leftover of bug 355. Patch by Diogo Matsubara <matsubara@async.com.br> (patch-2606: christian.reis@canonical.com, matsubara@async.com.br)
[03:34] <Ubugtu> Error: Could not parse Data returned by Malone: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group'
[05:23] <hertz> can anyone tell me what is karma for and how it is working?
[05:30] <ajmitch> hertz: boasting to your friends :)
[05:32] <hertz> ajmitch, :)
[05:32] <hertz> https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/KarmaImplementation?highlight=%28karma%29
[05:33] <hertz> https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/KarmaTypes?highlight=%28karma%29
[02:55] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Fix bug # 2944, Presenting buildlog properly in Soyuz. (patch-2607: celso.providelo@canonical.com)
[03:05] <offray> Hi all
[03:05] <offray> anybody awake?
[03:06] <kiko> offray, always
[03:06] <kiko> matsubara, yo?
[03:09] <matsubara> ?
[03:11] <offray> Hi all. I'm a newbie on launchpad, but I like a lot the concept (its like sourceforge, but without burocracy and bloated things :))
[03:11] <kiko> offray, cool that you like the idea
[03:12] <kiko> matsubara, did you get my email? I'm still waiting for a reply (and another commit?) to merge
[03:12] <offray> I'm wondering if its posible to start a project related with translation in Plone, but its not a software translation project, but a documentation translation project. In fact, Its part of a "new kind of translation project" i'm thinking on
[03:14] <matsubara> just read it. I'm changing the tal names and will check the tests again
[03:15] <zygis> offray, if your documentation is compatible with gnome-doc-utils, then you can export documentation in regular po files, then yes
[03:15] <zygis> offray, see, how this is done in gnome http://kvota.net/doc-l10n/by-modules.html
[03:16] <zygis> this is done with xml2po
[03:17] <zygis> and then back with po2xml
[03:17] <offray> zygis, thanks, but I see that all this po files are for software. I want to translate the "Definitive Guide to Plone", at least in part
[03:18] <offray> its document translation, not interface translation
[03:18] <zygis> offray, well, XML format is *not* for software, it's for any use out there
[03:19] <zygis> as you can see from URL, this is not interface translations, but documentation translations
[03:19] <offray> yea, I know, but my question is: Can launchpad be a place to start a documentation translation project even if it doesnt generate a po file or is not for a component of software
[03:20] <offray> ohhh I see
[03:21] <markuman> hi all
[03:21] <markuman> find and import my fingerprint dont work here
[03:21] <markuman> http://paste.debian.net/2210
[03:21] <zygis> offray, you see, you can convert plain documentation xml to standart po file
[03:22] <offray> ohhh ok
[03:24] <zygis> offray, http://gnome.org/start/2.12/ look at the translations of this page
[03:24] <zygis> they were done in the same manner
[03:24] <zygis> just plain po files for translators
[03:24] <zygis> ;)
[03:26] <zygis> this is what I suggest you,since I know that this approach will work with launchpad for sure :)
[03:28] <offray> Ok. Thanks a lot zygis. I will to take a breakfast and give a look at it :)
[03:30] <kiko> markuman, let me check that
[03:30] <kiko> zygis, thanks for the help
[03:30] <kiko> offray, if you can generate pofiles, rosetta can help you translate
[03:30] <kiko> markuman, was this generated just now?
[03:31] <markuman> kiko no i tried this last week too. same error
[03:31] <kiko> markuman, let me guess: your key is sign-only, right?
[03:32] <zygis> you're welcome
[03:32] <markuman> kiko, yes, my key is signed
[03:33] <kiko> markuman, no, I meant your key is a sign-only key -- DSA (sign only)
[03:33] <markuman> hm
[03:33] <kiko> markuman, can you --list-key?
[03:34] <markuman> you mean on my system? but there are 2 other key from friends 
[03:34] <markuman>  gpg --list-key DDE93F54
[03:34] <markuman> you mean?`
[03:34] <kiko> --list-keys sorry
[03:34] <kiko> yep
[03:35] <matsubara> kiko, I'm fixing another broken pagetest related to targeting fix to release
[03:35] <kiko> matsubara, ah, rock n roll, thanks
[03:35] <kiko> matsubara, do you need help?
[03:35] <markuman> kiko: did you mean this? http://paste.debian.net/2211
[03:36] <kiko> https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/1972
[03:36] <Ubugtu> Error: Could not parse Data returned by Malone: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group'
[03:36] <matsubara> i think i can handle it :) tks anyway
[03:36] <kiko> Seveas, hey
[03:37] <kiko> markuman, yeah, you have no subkey -- that's a sign-only key
[03:37] <markuman> uhm...so what i have to do???
[03:37] <kiko> markuman, there's a bug that we currently don't support sign-only keys, unfortunately
[03:37] <kiko> you can convert your key, I believe
[03:38] <markuman> hm
[03:43] <ddaa> hi offray, are you texmacs' "Offray Luna" by any chance?
[03:44] <kiko> hey ddaa 
[03:45] <ddaa> hi kiko
[03:45] <ddaa> I see matsubara is my new "fix registry for me" monkey ;)
[03:47] <kiko> ddaa, we're working on it
[03:47] <kiko> still a lot to learn
[03:48] <markuman> kiko: http://paste.debian.net/2212 can you watch at them?
[04:08] <Seveas> kiko, hi
[04:09] <kiko> Seveas, did you see the exception above in Ubugtu?
[04:09] <Seveas> yeah
[04:09] <Seveas> it's because he cannot access that page
[04:09] <kiko> Seveas, okay, it should ideally return a nice error
[04:09] <Seveas> It should :)
[04:09] <Seveas> (And it will in ~5 minutes)
[04:09] <kiko> cool
[04:10] <Seveas> I thought all bugs were public and since the 'parser' is simply a regex, this is just an unforseen error
[04:12] <kiko> some are private because of larger code snippets I think
[04:12] <kiko> markuman, that should work now -- have you tried?
[04:20] <Seveas> https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/1972
[04:20] <Ubugtu> Error: I cannot access this bug
[04:20] <Seveas> there :)
[04:20] <kiko> cool!
[04:20] <Seveas> That's the zillionth malone special case in the script :)
[04:21] <kiko> heh
[04:21] <kiko> welcome to the real world
[04:21] <Seveas> ;)
[04:22] <Seveas> I'm gonna rewrite the plugin next week to handle these things more gracefully
[04:26] <sivang> hey guys, yo kiko didn't know there was so much action here on th saturday
[04:26] <sivang> :)
[04:26] <kiko> saturday rox
[04:28] <markuman> kiko, same error
[04:29] <\sh> kiko: right...u can drink alcohol while u r working ;)
[04:29] <sivang> kiko: I see alot of specs registered in the spec tracker, are those new or already tracking your work?
[04:29] <kiko> tracking existing work
[04:31] <sivang> ah I see, very nice btw
[04:31] <kiko> yeah, the tracker is quite neat
[04:32] <sivang> the spec, support and sprint trackers are very interesting to me, duonno why :)
[05:04] <azeem> Hello.  How would I go forth requesting bazaar.ubuntu.com repos for the CVS modules at http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/hurd/ ?
[05:04] <azeem> Some of the respective developers would like to move to a distributed VC, and this might be a good place.  I cannot guarantee that it will be immmensely used, though
[05:05] <kiko> azeem, talk to jblack to get you guys set up on the supermirror
[05:08] <kiko> it should be pretty easy
[05:08] <kiko> azeem, and ddaa can get your CVS repository synced into bazaar in no time (usually)
[05:09] <kiko> markuman, that's odd.
[05:11] <kiko> I'm adding a comment to the bug
[05:13] <\sh> azeem: can u join -motu pls? :)
[05:13] <ddaa> azeem: first thing is to setup launchpad project/product for hurd
[05:13] <ddaa> kiko: do we have a wiki page or something for that?
[05:13] <azeem> haha, I thought ddaa was a script/program at first :)
[05:13] <azeem> hang on
[05:13] <kiko> azeem, he's one of those too
[05:14] <kiko> ddaa, on setting up new products and projects? No, but the site should be self-explanatory :)
[05:14] <ddaa> kiko: dude, people DO the wrong thing
[05:14] <kiko> :)
[05:14] <kiko> then we are not self-explanatory
[05:15] <ddaa> the distinction between a product and project is neither simple, nor obvious, nor even clear cut.
[05:15] <ddaa> It's nothing that can be explained in a few words.
[05:16] <kiko> it's also broken
[05:17] <markuman> damn and now?
[05:18] <kiko> markuman, I'm confused. I thought the issue was with sign-only keys, but I am finding it's not. I'll need to delve into the gpgme code a bit
[05:19] <kiko> markuman, you did --send-key after adding the new subkey, right?
[05:20] <markuman> of course ive send the key
[05:28] <markuman> kiko: or can you insert my key manually ?
[05:32] <kiko> markuman, hmmm, not easily
[05:32] <kiko> I needed Kinnison or lifeless to help me here
[05:32] <markuman> hm
[05:32] <kiko> or jamesh 
[05:33] <kiko> matsubara?
[05:36] <Kinnison> cprov might be able to help
[05:37] <kiko> Kinnison, I just wanted you to check out his key
[05:37] <markuman> hm, im away now but will come back....
[05:37] <matsubara> ?
[05:37] <kiko> Kinnison, gpg --recv-key DDE93F54
[05:38] <matsubara> kiko?
[05:38] <kiko> matsubara, why did you change the user in tests 10 and 20?
[05:38] <markuman> kiko, if youll find out something pls leave me a message on freenode
[05:39] <kiko> will do
[05:39] <kiko> thanks mark
[05:39] <kiko> thanks marku
[05:39] <kiko> man
[05:39] <matsubara> foo.bar user isn't needed to run those tests. You told me to change it, just left the needed ones.
[05:39] <kiko> ah, rock
[05:40] <kiko> I didn't know
[05:40] <kiko> did you say explicitly where you used the foo.bar user that he was needed?
[05:41] <matsubara> nope. on those tests I didn't use the foo.bar. I'm doing this kind of change on ALL pagetests.
[05:41] <Kinnison> kiko: Right, that's a 1024 bit DSA signing key, with an el-gamal encryption subkey
[05:41] <Kinnison> self-signed
[05:41] <kiko> Kinnison, should it work?
[05:42] <Kinnison> and also signed by mvogt
[05:42] <kiko> Kinnison, when I --list-key it it doesn't list a uid line
[05:42] <kiko> which strikes me as odd
[05:42] <Kinnison> by rights, it should
[05:42] <Kinnison> gpg --list-key DDE93F54
[05:42] <Kinnison> pub   1024D/DDE93F54 2005-09-20 [expires: 2007-09-26] 
[05:42] <Kinnison> uid                  Markus Bergholz (markuman) <markuman@gmail.com>
[05:42] <Kinnison> sub   1024g/B825D25C 2005-09-20 [expires: 2007-09-25] 
[05:43] <kiko> weird
[05:43] <kiko> not for me
[05:43] <kiko> anyway
[05:43] <Kinnison> the packetstream seems clean
[05:43] <kiko> I thought adding the subkey would fix the problem
[05:43] <Kinnison> Is it causing problems with launchpad?
[05:43] <kiko> yes
[05:43] <kiko> it fails
[05:43] <kiko> with the same error as bug 1972
[05:43] <Ubugtu> Error: I cannot access this bug
[05:45] <Kinnison> it's a seemingly sane looking subkey
[05:46] <kiko> so why does gpgme barf on it !#@!@
[05:46] <Kinnison> dunno
[05:46] <Kinnison> especially since gpgme runs gpg
[05:46] <Kinnison> and gpg seems fine
[05:46] <kiko> thanks I really appreciate it
[05:46] <kiko> could it be the expiration?
[05:47] <Kinnison> since it's so long away, it's doubtful but possible
[05:47] <Kinnison> even so, it *should* be irrelevant
[05:47] <Ubugtu> Error: I cannot access this bug
[05:48] <Kinnison> Ubugtu: what are you and why do you keep wibbling on in-band?
[05:49] <kiko> Kinnison, he's a bot
[05:50] <Kinnison> whose bot?
[05:50] <kiko> Seveas.
[05:50] <Seveas> mine, mpt asked for it to be here
[05:50] <Kinnison> Seveas: can it please not mumble in-band unless it has something positive to say?
[05:50] <Seveas> Kinnison, sure
[05:50] <Kinnison> Seveas: esp. since it seems unable to access launchpad bugs
[05:50] <Seveas> it can, this bug is just restricted
[05:51] <kiko> Kinnison, it can access launchpad bugs, just not private ones
[05:51] <kiko> I don't mind it complaining
[05:51] <Seveas> and kiko asked for it to give a sane error :)
[05:51] <Kinnison> kiko: 1972 is showing as 'Secrecy: Public'
[05:51] <Kinnison> or am I mad
[05:51] <Kinnison> ?
[05:51] <kiko> you are mad
[05:51] <Seveas> well, Ubugtu and myself cannot access it
[05:51] <kiko> weird
[05:51] <kiko> weird
[05:52] <kiko> weird
[05:52] <kiko> you can't see it Seveas? what happens?
[05:52] <Seveas> if i'm not logged in, i get redirected to the login page
[05:52] <kiko> and if you log in?
[05:52] <Seveas> Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page.
[05:52] <Seveas> You are logged in as Dennis Kaarsemaker.
[05:52] <Seveas> 
[05:53] <kiko> ah
[05:53] <Kinnison> kiko: http://users.pepperfish.net/dsilvers/1972.png
[05:53] <kiko> that's cute
[05:53] <kiko> one of the dupes is private
[05:53] <Kinnison> so the entire group is treated as such?
[05:54] <kiko> I'll fix it
[05:54] <kiko> and report a bug
[05:54] <sivang> Kinnie!
[05:54] <Seveas> So should I mute the errors or let it mumble in-band?
[05:55] <kiko> it's actually proven to point out a bug, so I think it's useful
[05:55] <Kinnison> Seveas: I think, the first time in a short period, it is asked to access a bug which is private, it should say... "I'm sorry, I am not permitted to access bug NNNN"
[05:56] <Kinnison> Seveas: but it shouldn't keep saying that every time someone mentions that bug during that conversation
[05:56] <Seveas> right, I was planning to put a timer in the rewritten plugin
[05:56] <kiko> bug 1972
[05:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #1972: Problem validating sign-only GPG key Fix req. for: upstream launchpad, Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Celso Providelo, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1972
[05:56] <kiko> I roxoringor
[05:57] <Seveas> so this will be fixed next week
[05:57] <Kinnison> Seveas: that'd be cool, otherwise the next time I talk about bug 1972 we get spammed again.
[05:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #1972: Problem validating sign-only GPG key Fix req. for: upstream launchpad, Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Celso Providelo, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1972
[05:57] <Kinnison> see :-)
[05:57] <Seveas> exactly
[05:58] <Seveas> that was the original reason for the timer :)
[05:58] <Kinnison> Seveas: of course, if Ubugtu was addressed directly, it should disregard any timer issues
[05:58] <Seveas> of course
[05:58] <Kinnison> Seveas: E.g. if someone just logged into the channel we'd want to give them the info without having to wait for the timeout
[05:58] <Seveas> and the timer is per-channel
[05:59] <Seveas> anyway, off to fix real life bugs (read: cleaning so my fiancee won't get mad)
[06:00] <Kinnison> I hear ya
[06:01] <Kinnison> kiko: I seriously can't find any reason for pyme to be barfing
[06:01] <kiko> me neither
[06:01] <kiko> stupid pyme
[06:01] <kiko> should I sic jamesh on this bug?
[06:02] <Kinnison> he's probably the best bet
[06:02] <Lathiat> interesting, on techboard, communitycouncil and ubuntu-core-dev
[06:02] <Lathiat> there is a member repated twice in all of them
[06:02] <Kinnison> on the launchpad team listing?
[06:02] <Lathiat> yeh
[06:02] <Lathiat> matthias klose in ubuntu-core-dev
[06:02] <Lathiat> mdz in techboard
[06:02] <kiko> Lathiat, it's a bug -- stub is going to fix it
[06:02] <Lathiat> and cjwatcson in cc
[06:02] <Lathiat> kiko: ah ok
[06:02] <Lathiat> thats what iw as wondering
[06:02] <Lathiat> :)
[06:03] <Kinnison> Lathiat: yeah, there was a team-membership related bug in people-merge
[06:03] <Kinnison> I think we fixed the bug and just need to clean up the fallout
[06:03] <Lathiat> people-merge?
[06:03] <Lathiat> ah ok
[06:03] <kiko> yep
[06:03] <Kinnison> Lathiat: yeah, if you find you have two launchpad accounts, you can merge them
[06:03] <Kinnison> Lathiat: E.g. I had 'dsilvers' and 'kinnison'
[06:04] <Lathiat> ah ok
[06:34] <kiko> time to skip out
[07:07] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: r=kiko Additional fixes for bug 2467 and 2468: deal with distro bugtasks with no source package name in some corner cases, adding tests for them. Patch by Diogo Matsubara <matsubara@async.com.br> (patch-2608: matsubara@async.com.br, christian.reis@canonical.com)
[07:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #2467: System error when requesting fix in a distribution without specifying a source package Fix req. for: upstream malone, Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Diogo Matsubara, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/2467
[07:08] <Kinnison> Hmm, Ubugtu should probably ignore dilys
[07:09] <Kinnison> Seveas: ^^
[07:09] <Seveas> Kinnison, http://ubuntulinux.nl/quotes?minid=10
[07:09] <Seveas> ;)
[07:09] <Seveas> but yeah, he should
[07:11] <Kinnison> heh
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[07:13] <Kinnison> oolio
[07:14] <Kinnison> s/^/c/
[07:23] <Lathiat> hrm, where do i find team creation?
[08:03] <eruin> ,
[11:39] <uriel> I'm a bit confused, can I host a project in launchpad? so far I only found a page to "Register an upstream open source product", and well, I want launchpad to host the upstream version... maybe I'm reading the title of that page wrong...
[11:42] <sivang> uriel: launchapd can track upstream projects, it's not yet acting as a software repository but rather as a controlling eye on those that come off from sf.net , gnome.org, gnu etc.
[11:42] <sivang> (someone please correct me if I am talking rubbish)
[11:42] <uriel> sivang: ok, I understand better now
[11:43] <sivang> uriel: so if you crate a bazaar archive somewhere of your software, you can then have launchpad track changes etc
[11:43] <uriel> yea, I just was hopping it would host my bazaar archive too =)
[11:43] <sivang> uriel: which software product do you maintain?
[11:44] <sivang> Kinnison: ping, you here?
[11:44] <uriel> I'm discusing taking over: http://www.lava.net/~newsham/plan9/ from it's current maintainer, and I wanted a place to host it with baz
[11:46] <uriel> I thought of moving to sf.net, but I dislike their whole system which is also rather unreliable, so I thought maybe launchpad would let me do the same and be more baz friendly too
[11:51] <sivang> uriel: take a look at supermirror, http://www.sourcecontrol.net
[11:53] <sivang> uriel: I think it's waht you look for, you can then link lauchpad to your repo there, AFAICT :)
[11:54] <uriel> sivang: thanks, that sounds quite useful...
[11:54] <uriel> sivang: are there any plans to make launchpad more or a sf.net replacement in the future? (being able to host a home page and so on all in the same place would be nice)
[11:56] <sivang> uriel: from what I've heared, in some point in the future launchapd could be used as such, not sure if it would be the actual source repository but that's no issue with it's ability to track upstream branches, so that's a partial yes =)
[11:58] <sivang> uriel: creating some sort of a home page, per team, per product I think already is possible, you shoudl talk to one of the devels here when they are not away, and get an authoritice answers :-)
[11:59] <uriel> sivang: ok, cool :)
[11:59] <uriel> even more obviously stupid question: projects have to be related to ubuntu in any way? or any project is welcome?
[12:02] <sivang> uriel: any project, launchapd is designed for FOSS wide support =)