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nemopaiceCan anyone tell me how to install a downloaded program?12:00
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frankiiianyone notice on breezy how, occasionally, the Applications or System menus are opened up with scroll arrows?12:01
samu2nemopaice, dpkg -i programname.deb might do it.12:01
frankiiiif I close the menu then reopen it then the menu is opened up properly12:01
frank23nemopaice: what did you download12:01
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nemopaicewhere do I typeit? This is my first time on linux12:01
nemopaicenetscape.12:02
frankiiialso, on breezy (which I installed by upgrading hoary) System->About Ubuntu pops up an error12:02
Dr_Willismirak,  no its not.12:02
Dr_Willisyou have to be root to enable the shareing.12:02
frank23nemopaice: just use firefox12:02
mirakDr_Willis: no you need to be root to share a folder12:02
nemopaicebut I use the netscape email server .... does firefox allow me to use my netscape email?12:02
Dr_Willismirak,  not from what i am seeing on my 2 ubuntu box's12:02
mirakDr_Willis: ok my bad12:03
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frank23nemopaice: I don't know... what is the name of the file you downloaded12:03
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Dr_Willismirak,  the root user has to enable the shareing of the users home folders, of course samba is a system-service - so thus root needs to be in controll of it.12:03
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mirakDr_Willis: I was surprised that I needed to enable it in nautilus since it was running already12:03
nemopaicenetscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz12:03
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Dr_Willismirak,  that 'tool' edited the samba config file.   and restarted the samba services i think.12:04
tucozHi, I wonder if there is a net installer for ubuntu or if it is possible to install from another partition. My cd-reader is not working as it should12:04
mirakDr_Willis: do you have security on share or on user ?12:04
Dr_WillisI just have it on user i think.. since i only have 1 user :P12:04
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frank23nemopaice: open a console, go where you dled netscape, type   tar xzvf netscape......gz12:04
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mirakDr_Willis: if I put it on user, it asks me a password even just to browse the workgroup12:05
Dr_Willismirak,  you never added a smbpassword for your user yet have ya :P12:05
SublimeInfidelAlright, I need some help manually adding a host to /etc/hosts. I have an fsck error12:05
SublimeInfidelCan anybody help?12:05
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mirakI think I did but I want to be able to share my home with a password and share normal folder readwrite12:06
Dr_Williswhat i had to do.. as root. for the users i wanted to share their home folders. I had to use 'smbpass -a username' to set a smbpassword for them. THEN restart the samba service12:06
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fr500mirak, there is a public flag i think12:06
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Dr_Willisalso the home filders are normally read only.  I had to edit the smb.conf to change that12:06
Dr_Willisthe gnome-samba config tool - is a little under-powered.12:06
mirakit sucks12:06
nemopaiceyou mean open up a console as in terminal?12:07
Dr_Willismirak,  all these chages take me.. say.. 30 sec.. to edit :P with vi.12:07
frank23nemopaice: yeah12:07
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mirakDr_Willis: yes but that's not what we exept for a desktop distro12:07
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nemopaicesays no such directory12:08
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Dr_Willismirak,  'desktop disrto' is such a null-meaning-buzz-word..12:09
nemopaicethe gz file is on my desktop12:09
frank23nemopaice: in the terminal   ls  lists files, cd changes directory, make sure you are at the right place12:09
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Dr_Willismirak,  i dont even know if that sambva config tool is normal part of gnome - or a ubuntu specific add on.12:09
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mirakDr_Willis: the model ubuntu tries to reach is OS X, that's not a secret12:09
Dr_Willissamba can be considered a security issue.. so the ubuntu guys err on 'secured' :P12:10
[N] ameits a long way from Os X12:10
nemopaicein the terminal window it says.... myname:~$12:10
Dr_WillisI put ubuntu on my imac.12:10
Dr_Willis:P12:10
Dr_Willis*&@&@ os-x12:10
luiwhere I can find w32codecs?12:11
luiwhere can I find w32codecs?12:11
[N] amelui, for hoary or breezy12:11
[N] ame?12:11
Dr_Willishttp://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/  is where i got mine12:11
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naliothubotu: tell lui about w32codecs12:12
init2nullhi all. since breezy rc1 is out, can I safely do a dist-upgrade, or will my ubuntu install die a horrible death?12:12
naliothubotu: tell [N] ame about w32codecs12:12
_rb_one thing then, is there any problem with windows having access to the same file as a nother machine running windows when the file is on a linux server. are there any linux file locks i should know about ?12:12
luihoary12:12
[N] amestop telling me.. I know where they are12:12
naliothinit2null: you'll be fine12:12
frank23nemopaice: I opened a chat with you.12:12
init2nullok, I guess I'll do it. thanks!12:12
luithanks guys12:12
_jasonis there anything I can do to fix the lag between sound and video (flash also has sound lag)?12:12
nemopaicewhere at12:13
_rb__jason, use alsa12:13
durtwhat would be the proper line in /etc/mtab for a usb camera (/dev/sda)?12:13
Dr_Willissure its not /dev/sda1 ?12:13
[N] amewhat I need to know is how to get totem-xine to play audio with avi's. I get great picture but no sound12:13
frank23nemopaice: somewhere in your chat client, besides the channel maybe12:13
_jason_rb_:  also does not lag?  does it allow multiple sounds?12:13
_rb_duno12:13
_jason_rb_:  also = alsa12:13
jaydg_rb_, sounds like you have to dig deeps into the docs12:13
CountDownI'm designing a USB device (hardware and firmware) I'd like to use with Ubuntu.  Assuming the USB device firmware is working correctly, what do I need to do within Ubuntu to make it appear as a serial port in /dev/?12:14
_rb_b een doin it. lots n lots.12:14
_rb_having trouble with what could be an xp issue with some sorta cache12:14
jaydg_rb_, dealing with windows hurts :) are all of your windows boxes xp?12:14
[N] ame_rb_, whats your windows problem12:15
_rb_yeahp12:15
nemopaicei am there12:15
jaydg_rb_, home or pro?12:15
_rb_[N] ame, xcept for the fact that nwindows sucks, its a access denied prob12:15
_rb_pro12:15
[N] ametake ownership of what ever it is12:16
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_rb_its all comiung from a prog called myob12:16
jaydg_rb_, samba is pdc? or just a workgroup? wins?12:16
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_rb_it tries to open a client dbf when it starts, and after one machine starts the software the others get an Access denied error and wont start12:16
_rb_its just a workgroup12:17
frank23nemopaice: ok maybe it doesnt work12:17
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telonirit failed12:17
telonirit wanted the udev12:17
jaydg_rb_, well anyway - can you control the type of locking the program does?12:17
nemopaicelol I see you and typed to you12:18
telonircant run kernel 2.4 with ubuntu 5.1012:18
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[N] ame_rb_, myob... accounting software?12:19
_rb_not as far as i can see, but then i havent changed anyrthing as far as the clients are concerned, they were working fine when the server ( pretty much just a file holding box ) was a win98 machine.12:19
frank23nemopaice: type /join #frank12312:19
_rb_paths are identical, machine names are identical, but now the clients wont all open up happily. no other machines can get in after one has started the proigram. even if they exit it12:20
_rb_yeah12:20
nemopaiceim there12:20
_rb_its accounting software12:21
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[N] amedoes the new server have the same name as the old one12:21
[N] ameand the same IP12:21
[N] ame??12:21
_rb_yes. same ip, same shared folders12:21
[N] ameis the server name the same?12:21
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_rb_yeah12:21
durtwhat filesystem type is a usb drive?12:21
[N] amehave you set the permissions12:22
[N] amefor the shares12:22
_rb_the network shares as seen in "My computer" are all fine with the new server, no changes necessary there12:22
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jaydghave you tried "blocking locks = no" ?12:22
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_rb_yeah, the other computers have opened the files fine, just not when other computers have opened them. the linux permissions are wide open12:22
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draduldurt, a flash drive has, usually, FAT filesystem.12:23
delltonyanyone here use kubuntu reason i ask after doing an apt-get upgrade i get this big annoying Volume dialog in the center of the screen that simply will not go away i have tried to do an xkill on the box i have tried pgrep kmix then kill -9 <id> nothing seems to work. help please12:23
_rb_no, havent tried that. I'm gunna have to go to the site and start trying that12:24
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jc-dentonhi all12:24
Yetr2ubuntu doesn't carry wine?12:24
_rb_I'll connect to irc from there and i'll have access to the logs and things for more detailed answers on what samba does12:24
jc-dentonis there an easy way to customize uspash on breezy12:24
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jc-dentonw/o building ur own kernel12:24
[N] ameYetr2, ubuntu does wine you just have to install it12:25
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jaydg_rb_, yes, logs are GOLD when trying to solve ugly problems12:25
Yetr2[N] ame, couldn't find the package with apt, this is why I'm asking12:25
[N] amedid you check synaptic12:25
dabaRits in universe.12:25
_rb_if i could solve windows i'd get the nobel prize12:25
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[N] ameYetr2,  hoary or breezy12:26
[N] ame?12:26
Yetr2breezy12:26
_rb_cyas soon12:26
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[N] ameYetr2, I see it synaptic12:27
cevizogluYetr2, do you have universe in your repositories?12:27
dabaR[N] ame: it is in universe. you have, and he does not have universe enabled.12:27
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[N] ameim running default12:27
dabaRIt is a repository. I told ubotu to tell both of you about repos, and about asking him about packages.12:27
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[N] amewell almost default12:28
dabaR[N] ame: well, in fact, if you see wine, you have universe enabled.12:28
[N] amehence the almost dabar12:28
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Yetr2running completely default here.12:28
cevizogludangit, why won't the missing package tsclient leave me alone?12:28
[N] ameYetr2, edit your sources.list file12:28
Yetr2I figured that12:29
[N] ameuncomment the other repositories12:29
BioVorEtsclient.  TeamSpeak?12:29
[N] amethen in term do a sudo apt-get update12:29
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ciuswould anyone be able to tell me how to change gnoem's WM?  I read online that I have to change a setting in my .gnomerc file, but that doesn't appear to be in my home directory on ubuntu...12:29
cevizogluah, turned off "show notifications" for software updates.  much better12:29
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[N] amecius, have you unhid all the files in home?12:30
dabaRYetr2: TO add universe, follow the link ubotu sent you about repositories.12:31
cius[N] ame, I used ls -a to see them all, then looked for .gnome rc, and I also tried using locate .gnome and looked through all the hits, but found no .gnomerc12:31
dabaRcius: are you in gnome now?12:31
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ciusdabar, yes12:31
[N] amedid you just try ls | grep gnomerc12:31
dabaRcius: you hear of the configuration manager?12:32
ciusno, I've yet to use the config manager12:32
ciusand I have not tried using grep12:32
[N] amels -a | grep .gnomerc12:32
[N] ameI think12:32
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cius[N] ame , returned nothing12:33
StickybitCan anyone offer help on wireless config for dlink-520?12:33
ciusdabar, I'll try tthe config manager real quick, thanks for mentioning it12:33
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dabaRconfiguration editor that is. Applications, System Tools, Conf Editor, then in there you can change it.12:33
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dmacdonald111Hi all12:34
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dabaRum, where did you haer about changing the wm, and what woudl you like to change it to?12:34
[N] ameI wish I could get sound working under totem-xine12:34
Dr_Willisive never had much luck changeing the window manager for gnome.12:34
[N] amesystem sounds work fine12:34
[N] amebut no sound on avi playback in totem-xine 8(12:34
dmacdonald111I need to add something to my modules.conf files, but there doesn't seem to be one on the system. Is this the same as modules (no extension) or is it a file I need to create? Cheers12:34
Dr_Willisall the config file changes - never seemed to work.. i ended up renaming the window manager i wanted to use to be 'metacity' :P thats hard core fix lol12:35
ciusdabar, it was recommended to me on the gnome support forums that I change my wm to xfwm4 in order to get some functionality that I'm looking for12:35
dabaRcius: in conf editor, this is what you do: Desktop>Gnome>Apps>WM. there it is, you change from /usr/bin/metacity, to whatever the program name is. but, what wm are you trying to get at?12:35
[N] ameI used openbox in 5.0412:35
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[N] ameit worked great12:35
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[N] amebut I cant get it to work in 5.1012:36
dabaRI use it now, its awesome.12:36
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dabaRfor what I need.12:36
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Confuzzledhello all, could anyone help with with turning off ipv6, its screwing with my internet12:36
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Dr_Willisi wonder why ipv6 is enabled by default. :P  guess for the power users12:37
dabaR/usr/bin/xfwm4 in that field will likely work, cius found it?12:37
ciusdabar, to be specific, I want to be able to hold the Super key (windows key?) and the right mouse button and click 'n drag anywhere in an app window in order to resize it, just like you can do under metacity for moving it (system->preference->windows)12:37
ciussec, let me look, been typing12:37
dabaRcius: never heard of it, try that12:38
nhainesI've been forced almost entirely to Ubuntu this week (my main machine with WinXP crashes--looks like bad RAM now that I'm running memtest).  I've been very, very happy with it.  :)12:38
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Avenhello12:38
[N] amehello12:38
ciusdabar, found ti12:38
Avendoesn't ubuntu come with gtk-config ?12:38
nhainesIf all my files weren't on the main computer and I would be unlazy enough to set up extra codecs, I'd be all set.12:38
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nhainesHi, aven.12:38
ciusit*12:38
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dabaRtell me whether the change worked12:38
sme2hi, how could I disable the buffer writing to an mounted Device ? I mean it writes all when I umount(or sync) it. Could I deactivate that ?12:38
dabaRyou/~'ll need to log out back in.12:39
ciusdabar, doing that now, give me a second and I'll be back to let you know12:39
kushboyCan someone help explain to me what the mozilla-firefox-dev package is for and how I can work with it12:39
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luinow, where can I find gstreamer0.8-lame, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg, libdivx4linux and libdvdcss2?12:40
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glickhowdy12:40
[N] amegstreamer ftl12:40
dabaRits a package for developers, some headers or what not. why do you think you want to use it, kushboy ?12:40
[N] amexine ftw12:40
dmacdonald111hello12:40
Confuzzledso, can anyone help me with turning off ipv6, i'm pretty much a newb12:40
nhaineslui, I think -lame and -ffmpeg were in universe.12:40
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Dr_WillisConfuzzled,  its mentioned in the Ubuntu forum/wikis12:40
nhainesOh, but that's for Breezy though.12:40
luithey aren't12:40
Avendoesn't ubuntu come with gtk-config ?12:40
glickexcuse me when i plug in a external drive into the firewire port ubuntu automagically looks at the drive and mounts it and all partitions12:40
[N] amelui, save yourself some time, ditch gstreamer and get xine12:41
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kushboydabaR, I would like to get firefox's source, build it, and start playing around with the code12:41
glickdoes it just do that in gnome or does it do that even if you use another window manager12:41
nhainesAven, I don't have a manpage for gtk-config.12:41
glickor even perhaps no windowmanager?12:41
dmacdonald111I need to add something to my modules.conf files, but there doesn't seem to be one on the system. Is this the same as modules (no extension) or is it a file I need to create?12:41
Dr_Willisglick,  thats a gnome feature12:41
lui[N] ame, xine is better?12:41
dabaRkushboy: there is source, enable the source repos.12:41
RockyBurtwow, i am constantly getting errors while updating certain ubuntu repositories for breezy12:41
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glickDr_Willis, are you sure?12:41
nhaineskushboy, mozilla-firefox-dev are headers to help you write programs that work with firefox--it's not the source.  dabaR's advice about enabling source repositories is correct.12:42
Dr_Willisglick,  at least the auto-poping up of the windows is.. :P I disable tht part... the auto-mounting - is part of a deamon/service I think12:42
[N] amelui, yes xine is better12:42
karmatoburnanyone know of a faq for converting a .exe to a .ppd file? tia...12:42
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ciushey dabar, it didn't work.  I logged back in and its still metacity, confirmed by going back to config editor...12:42
glicki wish i couild get gnome to look like the default gnome12:42
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joe_hello12:42
cevizoglukarmatoburn, what is a .ppd file?12:42
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lui[N] ame, o then. thanks12:42
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Dr_Willisglick,  you mean the origiaal installed gnome?  just delete your .gnome* dirs12:42
karmatoburnit is a file my stoopid printer wants12:42
lui[N] ame, ok then. thanks12:42
joe_mounting files got a quick question12:42
glickDr_Willis, no the original gnome look12:43
glickas made by Gnome12:43
glynmy Ubuntu system literally freezes frequently..this happens when there's only 4 programs running, does anyone know why?12:43
[N] amexine gives better video playback in my opinion12:43
Dr_Willisglick,  good luck there.12:43
karmatoburni had thought i could unzip it but...12:43
Dr_Willisglick,  would be nice if all the disrtos could agree to use the defaults.. and perhaps have one menu with their own stuff12:43
luioks12:44
joe_help?12:44
TiMiDoask12:44
naliothglyn: check you memory with memtest12:44
joe_mounting files from a windows server12:44
glynhow do I do that?12:44
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nhainesglyn, that's my advice too.  Reboot your system and hit Esc to make Grub come up.  Then choose memtest86+ from the list of startup options.12:45
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naliothglyn: one of your boot options should be memtest, or d/l the iso from ubcd.sourceforge.net12:46
joe_i'm tryiong to mount my files from my win2k3 server to my ubuntu laptop12:46
glynk12:46
joe_i have samba, and smbfs12:46
kushboyDoes anyone know how I can get the source for Firefox?12:46
joe_setup12:46
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naliothkushboy: visit mozilla.org12:47
doogluskushboy: "apt-get source firefox"12:47
dabaRwhere does it go anyhow?12:47
dabaRdooglus: ^12:47
nhainesdooglus, do you have to enable the source repository first then?12:48
dooglusnhaines: yes12:48
joe_anyone able to help me?12:48
nhainesI'd imagine it goes to /usr/src/12:48
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dabaRyou can get it without sudo, and it comes to your home dir.12:49
nhainesjoe: Samba should be installed by default.  Just go to Places and chose Network Servers, or Connect to Server... if you know what share you need.12:49
naliothapt-get source brings it to your current working directory12:49
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dabaRAh, yes, that works out.12:50
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dabaRand, ya, the repos are shown as told by ubotu, kushboy .12:50
naliothdabaR: hows the professorial practice?12:51
dooglusi use a shell function called 'get-src' which does this:12:51
doogluscd ~/src; mkdir -p $1; cd $1; apt-get source $1; cd $1-*12:51
dabaRmeh. did not work out that great.12:51
dabaRreally.12:51
joe_help?12:51
joe_ok nvm, i'll try later12:51
dabaRI was not that happy about the pres, and noone seems to be asking any support questions, so I doubt they use it. there is time, tho. I am off, I am reading stuff, like the book on OS licenses.12:52
nhainesjoe_, I gave you some advice.12:52
nhainesdooglus, I really like that script.  I shall "borrow" it.  :)12:52
ciusdabar, change did not work, its still using metacity.  I went back into the config editor and it still said metacity when I relogged in.12:52
dabaRI read that, thanks. I dont know what to tell you, that should change the WM, afaik.12:52
dooglusnhaines: it keeps your sources tidy, and you don't have to worry about where you started.  you know how to write a shell function?12:52
dabaRnever tried tho.12:52
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ciusdabar, oh ok, thanks anyway, I'll figure it out somehow12:53
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ciusnm12:53
nhainesdooglus, cat > foobar and then chmod, right?  :)12:53
nhainesWait, no, that's not a shell function.12:53
dooglusnhaines: no, no, I mean a shell *function*.12:53
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nhainesHm, this was convered in a "Introduction to Unix using Linux" class I took three years ago.  So no.  ;)  I could pull the textbook though.  It has to do with uh, .profile doesn't it?12:54
dooglusin ~/.bashrc, write "get-src ()" on one line; "{" on the next; the script on the next, and "}" on the next.12:54
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nhainesAwesome, thanks.12:54
dooglusnhaines: .profile (which is called .bash_profile when using bash) is only run when you log in.  ie. never in ubuntu.  so use .bashrc which is run for each shell.12:55
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carambol_how  get realplayer install in breezy?12:55
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nhainesdooglus: which is also where I will now be putting /usr/bin/fortune (my favorite app of all time, really).12:55
Crumithi12:55
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dooglusnhaines: I put a nicely formatted version of get-src here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/285912:56
AlexanROis there a way to apt-get a pkg stored locally, if so will it still resolve deps?12:56
dooglusnhaines: if you're going to run fortune from .bashrc, make sure it's after the check for "interactively"12:57
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joe_nhaines, thanks i see that, sorry i missed it, i can't seem to find places as i have changed my desktop configuration. is there a command line i could use?12:57
dooglusnhaines: you don't want non-interactive shells having fortunes12:57
nhainesdooglus: that sounds like something I would break and never find.  Thanks.  :)12:57
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nhainesOh, but, I'll set it at the bottom, so I guess I'm safe.12:57
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dooglusthat's fine12:58
comforteagleRunning hoary, I had apache1.3 running then did an apt-get install apache2, apache2-common php4.. now neither work.  Is there a way to clean this mess up?12:58
comforteagleother than wiping the disk that is.  8^)12:58
nhainesjoe_: No, but running nautilus might help.12:58
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joe_nhaines, nautilus?12:58
naliothdooglus: not to rain on your parade, but #where #are #the #usage #instructions?12:58
nhainesjoe_: at least, I don't know of any commandline.  Of course, you can always mount the share in your local filesystem.12:59
nhainesjoe: that's the file manager in Gnome.12:59
joe_nhaines, i tired mounting and it's not finding the dshared files12:59
ect4hi12:59
dooglusnalioth: for what?12:59
ect4hi12:59
naliothdooglus: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/285912:59
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dooglusnalioth: it's just a shell function.  you say "get-src <package>" where <package> is a source package...01:00
tucozHi, I am having trouble booting with the breezy kernel. It is freezing when loading the hotplug subsystem. Is it possible to disable this on boot?01:00
odd- My screenshot pwnz01:00
joe_nhaines, smbmount -t smbfs -o username <wshdf> //server/share /mnt/sare01:00
odd-http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/files/0/Screenshot_932268_original.png01:00
naliothdooglus: the more ignorant of us like #commented #out #instructions #with #our #bash #scripts01:00
nhainestake the password out of <>'s.01:00
cevizoglutucoz, the hotplug subsystem is pretty important, not sure you would function properly without it01:00
joe_nhaines, and it doesn't  see it01:01
dooglusnalioth: ok then.  here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/286001:01
joe_nhaines, i did that to01:01
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naliothdooglus: i add instructions to all my bash scripts01:01
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nhainesnalioth: that's not a script, it's a function.  Add a comment line above where you define it?01:01
tucozcevizoglu: I guess it is. But, there might be some way to not load certain parts on boot, s.a. soundcard.01:02
lui[N] ame, xine is great thanks!01:02
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nhainesjoe_: I've been fortunate enough not to have any major problems with smbfs (and this was with Debian on my GameCube) so I can't really help you troubleshoot further.  :/  Maybe somebody else knows?01:02
dooglusnhaines: the 'latest release' has a 'usage' output - run it without arguments to see the usage: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/286001:02
naliothdooglus: and i'm real real dumb, because i still dont know how to use that thing (everything in my .bashrc is commented as to function or provenance)01:02
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joe_thx, i'll keep trying01:03
hjk57...debian on a GameCube?01:03
nhainesGood luck.  :)01:03
joe_much appreciated01:04
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nhaineshjk57: Yeah, PowerPC arch.  Runs like a charm.  Just needs a custom framebuffer and memory driver.01:04
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PrimoTurboHey guys need some help01:04
PrimoTurbobreezy rc01:04
naliothPrimoTurbo: ask01:05
PrimoTurbothat was recently released01:05
PrimoTurbowhat's the difference between that and preview01:05
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nemopaicecan anyone tell me why It says I don't have permision to create a folder in .../usr...?01:05
PrimoTurbobecause I have preview burned atm01:05
naliothPrimoTurbo: if your box is keepin up, it's current01:05
Kyralbecause you don't ;P01:05
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Ex-Cyberis it possible to access hosts with "+" in the hostname using Firefox?01:05
nhainesRC means "Hey, we're going to release this so get any problems in now."01:05
naliothnemopaice: b/c /usr/ doesnt belong to you01:05
automathey, anyone here use development versions of fluxbox here?01:05
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PrimoTurbocan preview be updated to rc01:05
PrimoTurboand then to final?01:06
tonyyarussoI was wondering how to change the setting for the startup sequence such that the line length displayed is doubled, making it nicer aesthetically and fitting more lines vertically so I can see more of what's happening.  I have a 768x1024 display, and remember seeing this option before, in the form of a variable being set to 0xsomething.  Any ideas?01:06
nhainesPrimoTurbo: yes.01:06
nemopaicewhere can I create folders?.... and who does usr belong too?01:06
djm62nemopaice: as a normal user, you can only create and destroy files in certain locations.  use sudo to get permission to create or destroy all of them01:06
Ex-Cyberwhenever I try to access one it just immediately pops up a "could not be found" dialog01:06
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naliothnemopaice: if you want to put something in /usr/ , use /usr/local/usr01:06
PrimoTurboI just use the packet manager right?01:06
nhainesPrimoTurbo: although, preview can be updated directly to final as well.01:06
PrimoTurboI see01:06
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PrimoTurbocool thanks for info01:06
naliothubotu: tell nemopaice about cli01:06
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djm62nemopaice: your home is /home/username01:06
nemopaiceok ty01:06
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automatanyone use fluxbox 0.9.14?01:07
SurakHey, what means when the system stops doing anything and says constantly "Bus error"?01:07
QMarioIs Seveas here?01:07
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nhainesSounds like a problem with the system bus (on the motherboard).  When did that start?01:08
Surakjust happened.01:08
SublimeInfidelAnybody familiar with evo's?01:08
djm62couple of breezy questions: is there a recommended way to get usplash and beagled running?01:08
naliothQMario: not atm01:08
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trekremMitsu evo's?01:08
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QMarioHello cafuego!!! :)01:08
QMario!lart Surak01:08
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QMarioHello funkyHat!!! :)01:09
funkyHathello QMario :)01:09
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djbrieckQuestion about U 5.04 on laptops how do i stop the loss of screen on lid close?01:09
Surak**ubotu: seems I'm screwed without you slicing me :-)01:09
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QMarioSurak, sorry. It was just a joke?01:10
QMarioCan you forgive me? :)01:10
funkyHatdjbrieck, do you mean that when you open the lid again the screen doesn't come back on?01:10
m0biu5good evening everyone01:10
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djbrieckfunkyhat: yes01:10
nhainesdjm62, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`01:10
tonyyarussodjbrieck: It doesn't just lock, it won't come on at all?01:10
nhainesTHat's for usplash, at least.01:10
m0biu5everytime I get an update for my kernel, I have to recompile my sound driver - is tere any way to get around having to do that01:10
djbrieckyeah stays all black01:10
SurakQMario: that's ok01:11
djbrieckis there as a way to bring it back01:11
SurakI'm just confused. Never saw this message. "bus error".01:11
djm62nhaines: ah, easy: cheers01:11
tonyyarussodjbrieck: Even when you touch the mouse or keyboard?01:11
djbrieckyeah01:11
djbrieckthe cap light goes on and off01:12
tonyyarussodjbrieck: You could try CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE, not sure if that would be related to your problem.01:12
djbriecksystems still seem to be running01:12
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djbrieckthe card is a nvida01:13
djm62final question: what does "FATAL: System.DllNotFoundException: libglib-2.0-0.dll" mean when trying to start beagled?01:13
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tonyyarussodjbrieck: If you'd like, try closing it, opening, and after a moment the key combo above, and say what happens.  Of course, if that doesn't work, I suppose you probably have to restart or some annoying thing like that, right?01:15
djbrieckyeah01:15
xivhwohei01:15
djbrieckI press the power once for a second01:15
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nhainesdjm62, it means beagled can't find that library.  See if you can add it in Synaptic or through sudo apt-get install libglib01:15
djbrieckand the system shuts down as expected01:16
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djm62nhaines: I've been trying all that01:16
nhainesDid you install Beagle through the Ubuntu package repositories or from some other place?01:16
djm62nhaines: I'm guessing it's something about /etc/mono/config mapping01:16
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cafuego_Hmm.01:16
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djm62nhaines: I've done the CVS nasty before...this time, standard breezy01:16
funkyHatrelated to djbrieck's problem - i had trouble with hibernate in hoary (haven't tried yet in breezy), is it possible that that's causing problems here too?01:17
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djm62nhaines: :) I'm an idiot01:17
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xivhwoyew01:17
nhainesdjm62: I'm in good company then.  :)01:18
jim_s_.01:18
djm62nhaines: I've done the CVS nasty, and "which beagled" tells me I'm still doing it01:18
djm62damn local paths01:18
tonyyarussofunkyHat: Possibly.01:18
nhaineshehe01:18
djbrieckalso how can i be sure my graphics card has good drivers, I installed the nvid stuff from the packages01:18
jim_s_Can anyone help with an error in mounting and external drive?01:18
funkyHatwell then your card has good drivers :)01:18
tonyyarussodjbrieck: Do you have acpi events or something similar tied to lid closing that might try to hibernate the computer rather than the default lock screen action?01:19
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cafuego_djm62: install libglib2.0-cil and libglib2.0-001:19
djbriecki think dcpi is disabled01:19
djm62cafuego: I did all that...I just need to clean /usr/local/lib01:19
djbrieckacpi01:19
cafuego_djm62: Oh, got a bad install? Just remove /usr/local/lib from /etc/ld.so.conf and run 'ldocnfig'.01:20
jim_s_nhaines: Can you help with mounting a USB drive?01:20
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nhainesThat should be automatic; unfortunately I don't have one yet so I can't.01:20
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linuxzegnushola a todo el canal01:21
jim_s_nhaines: It mounts as a read-only device, I can't seem to get it to mounts r-w...01:21
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cafuego_!es01:21
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:21
linuxzegnushi !01:21
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tonyyarussodjbrieck: If you had set acpi up for that you'd probably know it.01:22
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nhainesjim_s_, that sounds like just the thing that would be covered in the wiki.01:22
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jim_s_nhaines: I thought  I was following the man pages correctly, but evidently not...01:23
ekoguys, sorry for asking it, but when will breezy the stable ver. be ready?01:23
djbriecki checked some log somewhere and noticed it off01:24
briander43Hello all01:24
djbrieckyeah it is probably some work getting it on01:24
xivhwo01:24
nhaineseko: 13 October.01:24
trekremAnyone have a fully working keymap for Apple Pro Keyboard?01:24
cevizoglutrekrem, why?01:25
trekrembecause01:25
ekonhaines : thx01:25
trekremi need one01:25
naliothtrekrem: there is one in the keyboard selector01:25
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cevizoglutrekrem, do you need to reset it back?01:25
trekremno there isn't01:25
xivhwo01:25
trekremnot in 5.1001:25
trekremi mean 5.0401:25
naliothtrekrem: there's NOT?01:25
cevizoglutrekrem, just reset the keyboard map01:25
naliothtrekrem: i use hoary (5.10) with the macintosh layout and it works fine01:25
eliaHi01:26
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cevizoglutrekrem, it's called the PMU setting, I think01:26
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eliaNew Ubuntu 5.10 is super01:26
naliothtrekrem: go to system > preferences > keyboard and choose 'macintosh' layout01:26
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trekremyeah the macintosh one wasn't working correctly for me01:26
naliothtrekrem: what's not workin?01:26
comforteagleRunning hoary, I had apache1.3 running then did an apt-get install apache2, apache2-common php4.. now neither work.  Is there a way to clean this mess up?01:26
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trekremnow i gotta think for a sec, i'm currently in os x01:26
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trekremoh yeah, for one, the right arrow does not work at all, not with ANY layout01:27
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ubuntu_hello all01:27
ShaneHi, I'm pretty new to linux and am having trouple with x server after installing new nvidia drivers.  I have both the conf and log file if someone can help me.01:27
ubuntu_anyone know what a MINOR partition is?01:27
nhainesubuntu_: is that like a logical partition instead of a primary one?  Where do you see that term "minor partition"?01:28
naliothubuntu_: in parted it just tells you the partition number01:28
trekrembut in 4.10 it was working, but not in 5.0401:28
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naliothtrekrem: does it work under OSX?01:28
trekremyeah01:28
ubuntu_"minor partition" in parted utility01:28
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VeRiTToHI01:29
VeRiTToHow can i install manpages-es?01:29
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funkyHatVeRiTTo, probably sudo apt-get install manpages-es01:30
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supergroverG'day all. Is anyone here not using gdm or kdm - ie startx?01:30
cevizoglutrekrem, I seem to recall some ongoing discussions on ubuntuforums.org half a year ago about changing keymappings and detecting keymaps on PPC Ubuntu01:30
briander43Lookin' for some help with getting my Sound Blaster AWE 32 car working01:30
trekremthanks, i'll have a looksie01:30
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St3althcAthi01:31
briander43I've read the wiki but to avail01:31
nhainesubuntu_, I'd just type 'print' into parted.  That'll show you the minor partition number you need.01:32
nhainesubuntu_, It looks like it's just the partition ID on the device you selected, nothing more.01:32
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ShaneAfter installing nvidia drivers I only get a black screen when x server launches.  here is my xorg.xonf http://rafb.net/paste/results/2af1sW78.html  and here is my xorg.0.log http://rafb.net/paste/results/U2jdE245.html  If anyone can tell what is wrong please help me01:32
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factotumShane, did you just recently update the kernel after installing nvidia drivers?01:33
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Shaneno, i just installed the kernel before installing the drivers01:33
Shanethe whole OS even01:33
VoltageXI'm having big problems installing from pressed ubuntu CDs - read errors left right and centre when installing the base system01:33
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ThirstehDoes anyone inhere have experience with getting the "can-play-more-audio-streams-at-once" in Ubuntu to work with an onboard AC97? You know what I mean ;)01:33
ThirstehIt doesn't work after install01:34
factotumhmm...alright. Ive always had to reinstall the nvidia drivers after a kernel update for some reason, otherwise I have to use "nv" instead of "nvidia"01:34
St3althcAtsomeone here can help me? I left a post on the forum but I think at this time it's better here. I've a problem installing ATi drivers 8.16.20, I've done it successfully before, but I had to reformat my Linux partition and now I can't get them working. I have the kernel headers, the .run file from ATi, all as I did before but when i start xorg, it starts with Mesa rendering and it has an error fglrx(0) incompatible module detected. Thank you!01:34
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nhainesSt3althcAt, are you getting the xorg-driver-fglrx from the Ubuntu repository?01:35
St3althcAtnope, that driver has some incompatibilties with some games, but that I can put working, but I would like, if possible, the latest version01:35
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St3althcAtfrom the ATi website01:35
St3althcAtbut if it is not possible I'll use that01:36
ShaneDid anyone take a look at my log / conf and have any insight?01:36
hjackOkay, how do I disable the cdrom as a source from synaptic?01:36
djbrieckis there a way to mount an Ntfs partition on ubuntu alongside the current filesystem01:36
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ubuntu_how to put the name of the recipient of the message and then the message? I never used irc chats01:36
factotumis hoary updatable to breezy through apt? or is a complete reinstall required?01:36
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St3althcAtdjbrieck, go to www.ubuntuguide.org, it's there ;)01:36
nhainesubuntu_: type it.01:37
factotumI was going to change the repo's and do a dist-upgrade, but I thought I would ask first01:37
nhainesdjbrieck, yeah, and it's simple.  ;)01:37
naliothSt3althcAt: please dont recommend ubuntuguide01:37
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St3althcAtsorry :\01:37
ubuntu_but I see nhaines in red...01:37
naliothubotu: tell factotum about upgrade2breezy01:37
Shanewhat's wrong with ubuntu guide?01:37
nhainesNevertheless, the instructions for that particular task are correct.01:37
nalioth!ubuntuguide01:37
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.01:37
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St3althcAt!faq01:37
ubotuI guess faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/01:37
hjackanyone?01:38
hjacksynaptic question?01:38
nhainesubuntu_: only with XChat, when I put your name at the beginning of my line.  :)01:38
factotumsure, rip on it, but use it to your liking lol01:38
nhaineshjack: just ask.01:38
hjackI did01:38
hjackOkay, how do I disable the cdrom as a source from synaptic?01:38
hjack^-----repeat01:38
St3althcAtwell is there any solution for my problem? :01:38
St3althcAt:\01:38
ubuntu_nhaines thanks01:38
nhainesSt3althcAt, hm, once I got the Ubuntu drivers working for my laptop, I stopped.  The official source scared me a little.  ;)01:39
St3althcAthum01:39
logikal_Having problem compiling files01:39
logikal_http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/38669201:39
St3althcAtguess I'll use the ones from the repo then01:39
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naliothhjack: open your /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor using sudo and put a # in front of the line with cdrom in it01:39
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nhaineshjack: either comment it out in /etc/apt/sources.list or do it in Synaptic under Settings:Repositories01:39
briander43Can anyone help with getting my sound blaster card working?01:39
hjacknhaines, Thank you very much01:40
nhainesWell, nalioth is correct too, and he beat me. :)01:40
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ShaneWhen someone has time to glance at my xorg.conf and xorg.log files please send me a message01:40
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trekremhmm searched the ubuntuforums, found nothing useful regarding my issue with Apple Pro Keyboard and macintosh keymap01:41
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zblachhowdy01:42
zblachand happy thankgiving to all01:42
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St3althcAtcya guys01:42
St3althcAtthx anyways ;)01:42
zblachanyone here know how to configure samba in breezy?01:42
trekremcan someone transfer me your working Apple Pro Keyboard keymap so I can analyze it01:43
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trekremfrom 5.0401:43
nhaineszblach: just for file sharing?01:43
djm62ok, cleaning out /usr/local, removing it from ld.so.conf and running ldconfig...these things aren't helping01:43
juanfeStrikeForce01:43
StrikeForcejuanfe, whats up01:44
zblachnhaines, and printing. I'm on ubuntu and I want access to my win network01:44
djm62I still get " System.DllNotFoundException: libglib-2.0-0.dll" on running beagled01:44
zblachi'll take their printers, but mine is mine01:44
juanfeStrikeForce, pardon01:44
zblachi'll share, as long as its theirs i'm sharing01:44
juanfeStrikeForce, sorry01:44
pminettihi!, I can't write in my vfat partition, in fstab a defines /windows vfat defaults01:44
zblachpminetti, i'll help. hang on a second01:45
jmauriciotrekrem, i just have a powerbook, its useful for you?01:45
StrikeForcelol thats ok01:45
pminettiok zblach01:45
zblachpminetti, change 'defaults' to 'users,umask=1000,rw'01:45
trekremno, thanks anyway!01:45
zblachthis gives full r/w access upon boot01:45
pminettiok! zblach01:45
zblachsolved that problem myself just yesterday ^_^01:45
VeRiTTowhen I download a package where is that?01:45
nhaineszblach: it's on and configured by default.  Just use Places:Network servers or Places:Connect to server01:46
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zblachnhaines, when I browse my network, i don't see it. I have a non-standard domain name01:46
zblachbut i've configured smb.conf correctly01:47
jmauriciotrekrem, there are some issues about keyboard, right now volume keys are fully functional01:47
pminettizblach did I need to reboot?01:47
zblachpmin, no01:47
jmauriciotrekrem but contrast keys not01:47
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juanfeI have a usb hard/disk partitioned in NTFS format. When i boot ubuntu detect it but is read only and I can't write on it. How can I change to write mode?01:47
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trekrembrb phone call01:47
pminettiANdhow this take efects zblach?01:47
zblachjust do this: 'sudo umount -a && mount (the drive)'01:47
pminettithank very much zblach01:48
zblachwhere (the drive) is something like : /media/hdb201:48
zblachnot a problem01:48
nhaineszblach: samba uses WINS, not the normal DNS system.01:48
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zblachnhaines, i'm not following, sorry01:48
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nhaineszblach: Are you trying to use Samba over the Internet?01:49
kbrooksdefine sic?01:49
zblachnhaines, no, its my local wireless network01:49
zblachworkgroup : Blacker01:49
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djm62juanfe: NTFS is a proprietary filesystem, so you have to pay for access01:49
zblachjuan, use fat3201:49
djm62juanfe: read-only is OK, but you can't write reliably/safely01:49
pminettizblach grr its say divice is busy01:50
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!lilo:*! Hi all. Need Spanish <-> English translation in #freenode.... thanks!01:50
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zblachpminetti, which drives?01:50
nhaineszblach, make sure you have Windows Firewall open to allow File and Printer Sharing enabled under "exceptions."01:50
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juanfedjm62, :-901:50
pminettizblach dev/hda301:51
zblachnhaines, i haven't changed it. it should still be open01:51
zblachpmin, try a reboot. see if it works.01:51
nhainesBy default I believe it is closed.01:51
pminettiok zblach01:51
pminettibye01:51
zblachnhaines, i had samba working 2 weeks ago. i had to replatform here01:51
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wertoyo all01:51
zblachwert up.01:51
wertohave you try klik??? _01:52
wertoit's wonderful01:52
wertoit's apocalittik :D01:52
juanfedjm62, I woul'd write in NTFS?01:52
wertoit's better than apt-get! _01:52
zblachubotu, tell werto about synaptic01:52
djm62juanfe: not without giving money to microsoft, one way or another01:52
logikal_ubotu, tell logikal about compiling01:52
wertozblach, i know synaptic01:53
zblachubotu, tell ubotu about ubotu01:53
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cafuego_!botabuse01:53
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.01:53
zblachok cool. ^_^01:53
wertozblach, klik is better, it's not apt-get, it's not emerge, it's not pacman, it's cross platform, you can install everything in every architecture01:53
zblachcool01:54
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nhaineszblach, hm, don't think I can help with the Samba problems, sorry.  :/01:54
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joe_hi guys, figured out my samba problem, not onto my realplayer problem01:54
wertozblach, try make wget klik.atekon.de/client/install -O - | sh01:54
zblachjoe_, wanna help me with my samba problem?01:54
wertoit will install klik01:54
joe_what are you trying to do?01:55
zblachwerto, i'll try it later. i'm working on samba now01:55
wertoto install programs you have only to klik it in the page klik01:55
wertoyeah01:55
werto:)01:55
zblachi'm trying to connect to my win network01:55
wertobe happy ^_^01:55
joe_what have you installed so far?01:55
zblachsamba01:55
joe_and what version are you running?01:55
cafuego_werto: Does that put stuff all over the filesystem without 'dpkg' knowing about it?01:55
zblachuh... i'm in breezy, and fully updated01:55
briander43can someone please help with sound card problem01:55
zblachso lemme check01:55
joe_oh i'm in hoary01:55
zblachbriander43, have you alsamixered yet?01:56
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ubuntu__hola01:56
joe_have you tried places>network servers?01:56
zblachni hao01:56
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zblachjoe_, yes, and nothing shows01:56
joe_ok01:56
wertocafuego, i've read information into a italian portal, they said it's revolutionary, i've tryed it now, and i can confirm01:56
joe_have your started the samba service yet?01:56
wertoit installed skype in my amd64 machine01:56
zblachjoe_, samba ver: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu101:56
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ubuntu__hay alguien por hay que hable espaol?01:56
cafuego_werto: That wasn't my question. Does that put stuff all over the filesystem without 'dpkg' knowing about it?01:57
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zblachhow to start samba service?01:57
wertocafuego, yes01:57
briander43zblach: yes, it says no such device01:57
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jmauriciocafuego checa el canal ubuntu-es01:57
juanfeubuntu__,  yo por ejemplo01:57
zblachbriander43, when you go $alsamixer?01:57
joe_zblach, sudo /etc/init.d/samba start01:57
PrimoTurboHow do I mount my NTSF drives so they stay mounted after restart01:57
ubuntu_damn01:57
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cafuego_jmauricio: Wat? Waar heb je het over?01:58
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cafuego_werto: Then running it on ubuntu is NOT a good idea.01:58
zblachjoe_, worked, but i'm still not seeing my network01:58
nhainesPrimoTurbo: add them in /etc/fstab01:58
briander43zblach with "$", i did it but nothing happened01:58
PrimoTurbohow would I do that exactly?01:58
joe_now you need to mount your files01:58
juanfeubuntu__, que tal?01:58
wertofrl  ++01:58
zblachbriander43, *sigh* sudo alsamixer01:58
joe_have your installed smbfs yet?01:58
nhainesPrimoTurbo: with a text editor.01:58
wertofrom klik site: "Imagine a .deb that you can run directly without installing it: that's .cmg"01:59
jmauriciocafuego__ excuse me01:59
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joe_zblach, sudo apt-get install smbfs01:59
cafuego_werto: Imagine it writing to a file that was also in a Ubuntu package. That's "broken packages".01:59
pminettizblach noy it's ok i can read a write in my vfat partition!!01:59
briander43zblach: sorry - i sudo'd and it said the same thing - no such device01:59
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pminettinow sorry01:59
jmauricioubuntu__ checa el canal ubuntu-es01:59
zblachbriander43, i'm sorry. thats out of my depth01:59
zblachpminetti, glad to be of service01:59
PrimoTurboI don't see a /etc/fstab02:00
zblachjoe_, i'm just interested in accessing the other computers, not them to me02:00
cafuego_werto: If it just puts files under a dir of its own, that's fine. If it extracts to all over the filesystem, it badness.02:00
briander43zblach: any idea where I can search for help? I've gone into the wiki...02:00
pminettizblach thanks02:00
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zblachPrimoTurbo, fstab is a file02:00
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zblachbriander43, try getting alsamixer02:00
PrimoTurboi see02:00
joe_yes but it s waht i went thru02:00
joe_bild on02:00
joe_hold on02:00
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PrimoTurbookay I opened it02:01
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PrimoTurbonow how do I find out which drives I have02:01
briander43zblach: the full error says "function snd_ctrl_open failed for default: No such device02:01
PrimoTurboand how do i add them?02:01
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zblachPrimoTurbo, what are you trying to do?02:01
joe_smbmount -t smbfs -o username=zblach,password=password //server/share /mnt/share02:01
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wertocafuego, it create only a file, .cmg, and it let your distro clean02:01
Confuzzledok.. can anyone help me with this, getting the laptop mouse to work?02:01
briander43it seems as if it's not detecting my sound card02:01
PrimoTurbothey are windows xp ntsf drives02:01
wertoit's fantastic02:01
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wertoit had only a problem for now02:01
PrimoTurbomount ntsf drives02:01
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wertoyou can only run max 8 apps for time02:02
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joe_zblach, smbmount -t smbfs -o username=zblach,password=password //server/share /mnt/share02:02
PrimoTurboI want them to be mounted at boot02:02
PrimoTurboso I don't have to remount all the time02:02
wertohttp://klik.atekon.de/docs/index.php?page=Compressed%20Application%20Images02:02
cafuego_werto: Ok, so it created a compressed FS where it dumps its own stuff.02:02
nhainesPrimoTurbo, what are you doing to mount them right now?02:02
PrimoTurbonothing02:02
PrimoTurboI haven't mounted anything yet fresh install of breezy02:02
wertocafuego, read the page :)02:02
wertohttp://klik.atekon.de/docs/index.php?page=Compressed%20Application%20Images02:02
zucaritashey anyone can help me mount de hard drives on my computer using the ubuntu live cd version?02:02
PrimoTurboI have fstab open02:02
PrimoTurbohow do I add them now?02:03
zblachjoe_ i need full access to these compies02:03
zucaritastotally newbie02:03
zblachnot just a shared folder02:03
wertoi'm gonna sleeping02:03
wertoenjoy :)02:03
wertohappy night02:03
cafuego_werto: Icky.02:03
wertosee ya'02:03
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wertopeace and love :)02:03
joe_oh02:03
PajjjDoes anyone have a problem with some fonts cutting off letters in xchat?02:03
wertocafuego, whats icky?02:03
nhainesThe default live CD should mount NTFS drives.  expert live does it, but it makes newbies'  heads explode.     :)02:04
cafuego_werto: cramfs app packages02:04
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cafuego_werto: Well, icky for me, perhaps sueful for others.02:04
joe_zblach,  sorry mate wish i could help you out a little more, but that;s outta my league02:04
joe_good luck man02:04
zblachthanks anyways joe_02:04
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PrimoTurbodoes anyone know how I can view my drive information02:05
Confuzzledcan someone help me get my touchpad thingie to work? i'll love you forever  if you do :p02:05
PrimoTurbohow do I see my partitions02:05
PrimoTurbowhats the command?02:05
joe_now about my realplayer question02:05
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cafuego_PrimoTurbo: sudo fdisk -l02:06
PrimoTurboty02:06
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zblachjoe_, got it. was a firewall issue :$02:06
joe_anyone know what tar command i need to use in order to untar my realplayer10gold.bin file?02:06
phoenixbyrduh02:06
cafuego_joe_: sh ./realplayer10gold.bin02:06
phoenixbyrd./realplayer10gold.bin02:06
phoenixbyrdyea that02:06
cafuego_What on earth gave you the idea it was a tarball?02:06
zblachjoe_, a different problem now02:06
nhainesIt must have been the .bin extension.02:07
zblachhow can I write to a networked computer?02:07
zblach^_^02:07
cafuego_nhaines: Yeah, the ./cue must be missing ;-)02:07
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joe_no such directory, my bin file in on my desktop i forgot to add02:07
zucaritasthanx nhaines02:07
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zblachcafuego_, you can say that he doesn't have a ./cue02:07
nhaineshehe02:07
cafuego_joe_: chmod 755 realplayer10gold.bin; ./realplayer10gold.bin02:07
juanfeanyone know a utility to pass mp3 to ogg vorbis?02:08
cafuego_joe_: Install it to /usr/local!02:08
cafuego_juanfe: You will lose a lot of sound quality doing that02:08
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juanfecafuego, why?02:08
nhainesHm, looks like my laptop is being stupid again (Turion64 processor is always running at double speed).  Gotta reboot and fix it.02:08
cafuego_juanfe: lossy compression -> lossy compression = crap sound02:09
cafuego_juanfe: both ogg and mp3 discard part of the signal, add those 2 together and you're left with crap.02:09
joe_cafuego, the file i am trying to untar is on my desktop, not located in root02:09
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juanfeogg is a bad format?02:09
Juhazno02:09
cafuego_joe_: Ever heard of the 'cd' command?02:09
nhainesSomebody tell me what the difference is between kernel params noacpi and noacip02:09
joe_not familiar with it02:09
Juhazit's not matter of bad or good02:09
nhainesjoe: you can't untar it; it's not a tarball.02:09
cafuego_juanfe: No, but you should go from original source to ogg, not from a lossy format to ogg.02:09
joe_change directory?02:10
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Juhazjuanfe, lossy compression is lossy compression, no matter how good it is it always takes away a bit, and when you stack those lossy rounds, it adds up very quick02:10
joe_nhaines, oh ic02:10
nhaines!faq02:10
ubotuwell, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/02:10
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Gobblahow do I check what plugins that are installed for firefox?02:10
cafuego_Gobbla: about:plugins02:10
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_jasonGobbla:  about:plugins in address bar02:10
Gobblaty02:10
SPCcrowIs there an ubuntu package for Totem Codecs?02:11
cafuego_!codecs02:11
ubotuhmm... codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:11
juanfejuhaz, but i can uncompress and then do a ogg file02:11
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mjrSPCcrow, gstreamer0.8-plugins installs most02:11
Gobblaapplication/x-director Shockwave Movie02:11
Gobbladoesent work! :(02:11
joe_shall i just apt-get install realplayer?02:11
cafuego_juanfe: uncompressing does not magically add the bits that wwere discared when it was compressed. They're gone (forever)02:11
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mjrSPCcrow, though gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg might need spesific installing (it's in universe, patent stuff)02:11
cafuego_Gobbla: And it never will. That's proprietary &!@*@GDUGU02:11
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juanfecafuego_,  I see thanks02:12
Gobblacafuego: shouldnt it work with crossover?02:12
SPCcrowmjr: thank you02:12
IanLiuHello02:12
IanLiuSomeone know if its possible to rise the resolution?02:12
cafuego_Gobbla: Macromedia don't have a director plugin for Linux. crossover isn't Ubuntu support-ware, so I don't know.02:12
IanLiuIs there a way to change screen resolution?02:12
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joe_nhaines,  ok i cached the realplayer installer, but how do i pont the installer to me desktop?02:13
Gobblacafuego: others have made it work.. :(02:13
zblachhow can I write to a win box from my lin box through samba?02:13
cafuego_juanfe: Try a few (probably play mpg321 output into oggenc) and see if the quality is acceptable.02:13
PrimoTurbodoes anyone know how I can reload /etc/fstab with out loging out02:13
nhainesjoe_, you dont want to install it to your desktop.02:13
cafuego_Gobbla: Maybe i386 users can help you.02:13
PrimoTurboI'm currently updating02:13
PrimoTurboany ideas?02:13
Gobblamaybe i should reboot, its from windows after all..02:13
zblachPrimoTurbo, sudo umount -a && mount (drive)02:13
joe_oh but the file is on my desktop02:14
cafuego_PrimoTurbo: man mount, see 'remount'.02:14
moeai recently switched from freebsd to ubuntu - i like ubuntu so far, but a really annoying problem i have is that audio output skips or distorts if my CPU load is high.  this never happened with fbsd on the same machine02:14
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Gobblabrb reboot.02:14
IanLiuHi, is there a way to rise screen resolution? Or just shirink thinks. Its too big02:14
cafuego_moea: What kernel are you on? (uname -a)02:14
nhainesIanLiu, System:Preferences:Screen Resolution02:15
IanLiuthx02:15
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Juhazjuanfe, that's what lossy means, those codecs work by trying to strip away the parts of sound human ear isn't supposed to hear, and that's why they can get the file size so small compared to lossless codecs.02:15
buliodoes anyone know how to get a speedstream 5200 USB modem working in linux?02:15
moeacafuego_: 2.6.8.1-302:15
Juhazoh02:15
PrimoTurboI mounted my c drive but I have a problem viewing it in gnome says I don't have premission02:15
joe_nhaines, theinstaller asks me where i dwnloaded the realplayer and it ison my desktop02:15
ron_Stupid question:  what is the default root password?02:15
cafuego_moea: it printed more than that...02:15
PrimoTurbohow do I view it?02:15
PrimoTurboand why don't I have premission to view it?02:15
nhainesThen tell it "~/Desktop" with no quotes.02:15
macewandon't laugh, how do i download a driver for an Intel Desktop Board D845GEBV2 mother boards ethernet connection?02:15
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macewanremember don't laugh02:15
cafuego_PrimoTurbo: Check the umask, fmask, dmask, uid and gid options you added in fstab.02:16
moeacafuego_: 2.6.8.1-3-386 #102:16
nhainesron_, by default, there is no root password.02:16
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PrimoTurboI just did a mount command atm02:16
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da_bon_bonhi all02:16
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PrimoTurboI haven't restarted to get fstab to work yet02:16
da_bon_bonanyone upgrading from hoary have had any problems ?02:16
IanLiuhmmm02:16
PrimoTurbojust mounted because I'm updating ubuntu02:16
cafuego_moea: Ok. You're on the installer kenrel. I think that doesn't support preemption. Install a kernel specifically for your cpu. (like 686 or k7).02:17
IanLiuthere is only one option of screen res....02:17
macewanupdated to breezy on two machines in the last week no probs02:17
nhainesPrimoTurbo, you don't have to restart.  You just have to type "sudo mount -a"02:17
ron_I'm trying to run synaptic and it wants a password.  I tried root, my password, and nothing but it won't let me in.02:17
_jason!tell ron_ about root02:17
cafuego_macewan: I doubt the controller is not supported by the normal kernel.02:17
moeacafuego_: thanks02:17
nhainesIanLiu, then that's the only resolution that was detected.  You can add others in /etc/X11/xconf.org02:18
bart17i have a problem installing hoary hedgehog.... pls help me...once its get to the unpacking of nic-extra modules...installing stops and does a loop02:18
PrimoTurbowhat should unmask be set as?02:18
PrimoTurboin fstab?02:18
cafuego_moea: Also check that DMA is enabled on teh disks.02:18
PrimoTurbomine is at 002:18
da_bon_bonmacewan: openoffice.org2 ? kernel ? usplash ? all got in without problem ?02:18
cafuego_PrimoTurbo: 'umask' not 'unmask'.02:18
da_bon_bonbart17: why not wait for breezy ?02:18
joe_nhaines, ok so i wanna start fresh with my realplayer install, how should i start?02:18
cafuego_da_bon_bon: There were broken for a while, but seem to be working OK now.02:18
IanLiucould be that because im runig ubuntu with a CD?02:18
PrimoTurbomy bad02:18
PrimoTurboi meant umask02:18
da_bon_bonjoe_: get the realplayer package from debian-unofficial.org02:18
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da_bon_boncafuego: broken as in ?02:19
PrimoTurbo/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c ntfs auto,umask=0,ro 0 002:19
nhainesIanLiu, that's possible but probably not that likely.02:19
PrimoTurbois that correct?02:19
PrimoTurboi have created win_c02:19
cafuego_PrimoTurbo: I normally use 007 as umask on such mounts.02:19
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PrimoTurbowhat does 007 allow?02:19
bart17da_bon_bon: why should i wait??? does it mean i can't install hoary ??02:19
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IanLiuthat path you sent me, is in CD?02:19
cafuego_PrimoTurbo: and set 'gid' to whatever the 'admin' groups gid is.02:19
PrimoTurbowhat does 0222 do?02:19
IanLiu/etc/X11/xconf.org02:19
macewanda_bon_bon: usplash required I do a: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.12-9-38602:19
nhainesjoe_, I'd open a terminal window, type "cd ~/Desktop" and then "./RealPlayerInstaller.bin"  or whatever the filename was.  :)02:20
PrimoTurbowhat is gid?02:20
ubuntu_Hello all02:20
cafuego_PrimoTurbo: 0222 is read/write for all (except yours is read-only anyway)02:20
nhainesIanLiu, not on the CD, but in the live system you're running.02:20
PrimoTurbowhat is 007?02:20
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PrimoTurboyeah I need read only02:20
PrimoTurbosince it's ntsf02:20
da_bon_bonbart17: it was a suggestion, i did mean to force anything02:20
ubuntu_I need some help fixing an upgrade from Hoary to Breezy which did not do what I expected02:20
da_bon_bonubuntu_: what happened ?02:20
bart17da_bon_bon: so can any1 help me here?02:20
ubuntu_The first thing was that I ran out of space on /usr02:21
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cafuego_PrimoTurbo: Check the permission system in 'man chmod' or something.02:21
PrimoTurbohow do I unmount the drives?02:21
da_bon_bonbart17: yes. whats the problem ?02:21
ubuntu_With repeated apt-get -f dist-upgrades and the use of Synaptic, I was finally able to complete the installation, or so it looked.02:21
nhainesPrimoTurbo, with the umount comand.02:21
da_bon_bonubuntulog: oh! noting wrong with ubuntu itself, right ?02:21
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bart17i have a problem installing hoary hedgehog.... pls help me...once its get to the unpacking of nic-extra modules...installing stops and does a loop02:21
ubuntu_Rebooted, and the system leaves me at a console; x.org does not load02:21
alexcamilohow do you get .htaccess to work with apache 2.0 in ubuntu. i got my .htpasswd file above /var/www i have a .htaccess file in /var/www/ i made sure the line "AccessFileName .htaccess" is in my apache2.conf file. but there is still no password priotection. am i forgeting something stupid like a chown or a chmod?02:21
da_bon_bonmacewan: kernel doesnt load auto ?02:22
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ubuntu_I have no idea how to begin troubleshooting.02:22
da_bon_bonbart17: check the md5sums on the cd02:22
cafuego_alexcamilo: is mod_access loaded?02:22
QMarioHow do you make these scripts to run on here, when you are away?02:22
ramblingturtle23was wondering what the w32codecs are called in the breezy release02:22
alexcamilomod_access? lemme check.02:22
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ubuntu_Booted the live CD to get this far ...02:22
nhainesbart17: you'll want to verify the CD you have.02:22
nhainesramblingturtle23: w32codecs are not included in breezy.02:22
IanLiuis the file name "xorg.conf"02:22
IanLiu?02:22
cafuego_alexcamilo: You can check perms issues in apache2's logfile /var/log/apache2/error.log02:22
nhainesIanLiu, Yes.02:23
IanLiuk, thx02:23
macewanda_bon_bon: uninstalling the kubuntu usplash theme required I do it02:23
da_bon_bonubuntu_: your nickname makes that part clear :)02:23
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cafuego_alexcamilo: Oh, and you need mod_auth as well.02:23
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PrimoTurbogreat worked :)02:23
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ramblingturtle23nhaines, i understand that but was wondering if anybody might know the name in that they would be in the universe or something02:23
da_bon_bonmacewan: why was the kernel not automatically upgraded ?02:23
cafuego_alexcamilo: And possibly an AllowOverride directove for the dir you need password son.02:23
PrimoTurboanyway to make the mounts show up as drives in computer?02:23
ubuntu_Seriously, though - would it help if I chose a more distinctive nick?02:23
nhainesramblingturtle23, I think they were removed from there as well.02:23
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da_bon_bonno, ubuntu_02:24
nhainesPrimoTurbo: mount them under /media02:24
ubuntu_K, thanks02:24
PrimoTurboI see02:24
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PrimoTurbowill do thnaks02:24
macewanramblingturtle23: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/essential-20050412.tar.bz202:24
buliodoes anyone know how to get a speedstream 5200 USB modem working in linux?02:24
ramblingturtle23nhaines, well then guess i will have to find them somewhere else then02:24
nhainesramblingturtle23, yes, you will.  They were contacted and asked to remove them.02:25
nhainesBeing illegal and all.  :)02:25
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nhainesubuntu_: did you download the CDs?  I would boot the install CD, type "expert" (no quotes) at the boot prompt, and choose the menu item to verify the install CD.02:25
xexexanybody know how to control the mouse without a keyboard ?02:25
macewanramblingturtle23: just get them from the source02:25
da_bon_bonubuntu_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? from the broken install ?02:25
bart17what do you mean md5sums? its my first time using linux...02:26
bart17nhaines: what do you mean???02:26
ramblingturtle23macewan: thank you i will02:26
ubuntu_Did not d/l the CDs but I could do. Will there be a problem burning the .iso since I've booted from the liveCD?02:26
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macewanda_bon_bon: yup, had problems setting up the video on my work computer02:26
cafuego_Oh that's lovely. Evolution broke.02:26
nhainesubuntu_, Oops!  Not you.  I mean bart17!  *blush*02:26
IanLiuA coment in a conf file is a prefix "#" ?02:26
ubuntu_Sorry ... n/p02:26
nhainesubuntu_, Well, if you have two drives it is no probme.02:26
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nhainesbart17: did you download the CDs?  I would boot the install CD, type "expert" (no quotes) at the boot prompt, and choose the menu item to verify the install CD.02:26
cafuego_IanLiu: Sometimes02:27
IanLiubecause02:27
ubuntu_da_bon_bon, I didn't try a dpkg-reconfigure02:27
macewanda_bon_bon: also, my wifes Intel Desktop Board D845GEBV2 gave me hell02:27
ubuntu_Can restart and give it a shot02:27
IanLiuthere are all resolutins written there02:27
IanLiui want to comment the low ones02:27
nhainesIanLiu, uncomment the ones you want.02:27
IanLiuand let high ones to se if they appear02:27
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nhainesIanLiu, It should use the first one listed there.02:27
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QMarioDo any of you guys program with B or D?02:28
ubuntu_Where does dpkg live? /etc?02:28
bart17nhaines: no... its an original cd... i've tried running the expert mode but it still stops during the unpacking of nic-modules.....02:28
da_bon_bonmacewan: :( should i do a clean install then ?02:28
lllmanulllubuntu_, which dpkg02:28
nhainesbart17, you mean an officially pressed CD?02:28
macewanhttp://www.youtube.com/index.php?v=7JcOS4q1F0Q  :-)  breezy bootsplash video02:28
IanLiuhmmm02:28
da_bon_bonubuntu_: try that .. might get X back.02:28
yeeeI just installed ubuntu and getting into gnome takes about 7 minutes(!) until the desktop appears. I installed xfce, and that works OK, but still some applications (mostly gnome oriented: calculator, gthumb) take several minutes until they show up. Any ideas on what direction I should look at for fixing this?02:28
IanLiui cant edit conf file...02:28
IanLiui cant writ in it02:28
da_bon_bonbart17: "original" cds can have problems too02:28
rginnquestion on startup:  ubuntu 5.10 starts at the $ prompt, how do i start the gui?02:28
PrimoTurbowhen I mount them under media I get desktop icons02:28
nhainesbart17, If the CD is damaged it doesn't matter where you got it.  If you don't want to test to see if the CD is undamaged, there's probably not much we can do.02:28
macewanda_bon_bon: I'm not really qualified to provide an answer to that02:28
PrimoTurboany way to remove the desktop icons don't need them02:29
ubuntu_lllmanulll - da_bon_bon suggested dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:29
PrimoTurboI cannot move them to trash02:29
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IanLiuhow Ill change it?02:29
macewanhate to F* something up on somene elses box02:29
da_bon_bonmacewan: ok.. :)02:29
bart17so how can i test the cd?02:29
macewanmy machine, hey no prob, someone else??? heck no ;)02:29
xexexanybody know how to control the mouse with a keyboard ? oops02:29
da_bon_bonubuntu_: as a normal user, just run the command.02:29
nhainesAs I said, boot it and type "expert" at the boot prompt.  It's a menu option after that.02:30
kevin__Hi I am a not techie newbie to Ubuntu and Linux and having trouble with emacs dependencys everytime I am installing something?02:30
ubuntu_ ty, will try02:30
IanLiuis there another way to edit that conf file? in text editor is not possible02:30
nhainesIanLiu, you have to run the text editor with sudo.02:31
macewanhttp://www.youtube.com/profile_videos.php?user=macewan   <- Ubuntu pr0n02:31
bart17then? i've already done that a lot of times.... as i've said it still does a loop during the unpacking of nic modules.......02:31
IanLiuhmm02:31
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macewanlater, time for movie02:31
nhainesbart17, then you may have a bad CD.  Try downloading and burning a new one, or borrow a friend's.02:31
IanLiusorry, im a newb, but what is sudo?02:32
bart17okay...02:32
bart17is it true that they do free shipping of cds??02:32
joe_nhaines, it says no such file or directory02:32
nhainesIanLiu, it means "do this as the superuser."  It's like root but only for one command.02:32
nhainesbart17, yes, I got 25 of them for free, and I'll get 55 of them this time.02:32
joe_nhaines, it says no such file or directory when i type cd ~/desktop02:33
nhainesI had little trouble passing them out.  :)02:33
nhainesjoe_, I didn't say that, I said "cd ~/Desktop"02:33
Gobblaumm anybody here who has made shockplay on crossover work?02:33
bart17hahah!!! when will be the next patch be released?02:33
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jrrwhat kind of stuff does ubuntu patch into the kernel?02:33
nhainesbart17, Ubuntu 5.10 comes out in 13 October.  6 days.02:34
xexexhow can i install kde ?02:34
svfusionwhat is the apt-get for java?02:34
jrrapt-cache search [search string] 02:34
nhainesXenguy, run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:34
bart17where do u live nhaines?? how many days will it take for the cds to arrive at your doorstep??02:34
kevin__My errors look like this - E: emacs21:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102:34
kevin__E: cedet-common:  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured02:34
kevin__E: eieio:  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured02:34
kevin__E: speedbar:  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured02:34
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nhainesbart17, I live in California, US.  It took about 4 weeks but I ordered well after the first CDs came out.  This time I expect I should get them in 2-3 weeks.02:35
Gobblabart17: if you talk about shipit, count with months02:35
Gobbladepends on where you live though..02:35
nhainesBut I am an optimistic guy.  ;)02:35
joe_nhaines, permission denied?02:35
svfusionsudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.502:35
svfusionjava -version don't work anymore02:35
IanLiui ran a programam. Its written "root@ubuntu:home/ubuntu #" is that?02:36
bart17okay... this time i ordered 55...will they be sending me the breezy??02:36
nhainesbart17, Yes.02:36
_jasoncan anything available in synaptic open a .pub file? (I believe this is microsoft publisher)02:36
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Dr_WillisIanLiu,  Huh?02:36
joe_nhaines, permission denied? should i do this in the root terminal instead?02:36
nhainesjoe_, I prefer to use sudo instead of the root terminal.02:36
bart17okay..thanks a lot for the help... should i have any problems with breezy, i'll visit this chan again....hehehe02:36
IanLiuhmm02:37
IanLiuits terminal02:37
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IanLiuwhere i find Sudo?02:37
nhainesjoe_, try running chmod a+x RealPlayerInstaller.bin02:37
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Dr_Willis'sudo' is a terminal/console/shell command - correct02:37
nhainesIanLiu, you type it at the command prompt.02:37
johnsie2someone having trouble installing realplayer10?02:37
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Kagenrealplayer, eww02:38
joe_ok i did that and it changed the icon to a bigfoot02:38
IanLiuhmmm02:38
IanLiuso, where is the command prompt ... :(02:38
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joe_johnsie, i am02:39
nhainesOkay, time to pull the bad RAM out of my computer and restart, then reboot this computer and get the kernal params correct.02:39
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johnsie2i installed it yesterday... might be able to help02:39
IanLiuoh02:39
nhainesIanLiu, Applications:System Tools:Terminal02:39
joe_thatd be great02:39
Dr_Willis"terminal"  program gets you a  shell.. then ya may want to read a few bash tutorials/shell introductions.02:39
IanLiui think i got it02:39
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nhainesjoe_, okay, that means you can probably run it now.02:39
johnsie2it was dirty but it worked02:39
IanLiuok02:39
IanLiunow im in02:39
IanLiuso, now i writte what?02:39
joe_nhaines, it says cannt open reaplyer.biin02:40
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Dr_WillisIanLiu,  depends on what you are trying to do.. :P  i forgot.02:40
nhainesjoe_, Make sure you're typing everything exactly like it shows--capital letters and all. Here's a trick.  Type the first one or two letters and type tab.02:40
johnsie2it only works in your browser if you install it in your "path"02:40
djbrieckI can install realplayer in addition02:40
IanLiuto change screen res02:40
djbriecki can't02:40
joe_it's working!02:40
joe_it's extracting right now02:40
nhainesIanLiu: now type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:40
nhainesNo quote.02:41
nhainesExcellent, joe_!  :)02:41
joe_thanks!!!02:41
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AngryParsleyI have a problem with gnupod02:41
khermansanyone know how to extract just one file from a tar.bz2 archive?02:42
AngryParsleywhenever I try and make a smart playlist, they are always empty02:42
IanLiugot it02:42
IanLiu^02:42
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IanLiunow i just save?02:43
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Big_EdNew Linux user needs HELP!!!02:44
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Big_EdTrying to make a netgear WG111 work with the computer and cannot find drivers anywhere02:44
HobbseeBig_Ed: what you just said is useless - it'd be more useful if you state your question in plenty of detail :P02:44
IanLiunothing happened....02:45
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IanLiuubSection "Display"02:45
IanLiuDepth2402:45
IanLiuModes"1280x1024" "1024x768"02:45
IanLiuEndSubSection02:45
IanLiulook02:45
nhainesIanLiu, No, it is not automatic.  You must restart the x server.02:45
IanLiuits like this02:45
IanLiuhmm02:45
IanLiuok02:45
IanLiuthx02:45
nhainesBut this will mean that you leave this chat room.02:45
Big_EdOkay just did a clean install of Ubuntu, am now trying to get my wireless connection to work. I have a netgear WG111 USB Wireless adapter. I am unable to find Linux drivers for it and am wondering if anyone could help..02:45
nhainesUh-oh.  I hope he's not restarting.  :)02:45
XorgProblemrehi room02:45
nhainesBig_Ed, you probably won't find Linux drivers.  You'll have to set up ndiswrapper to use the Windows drivers.02:46
XorgProblemI'm the n00b from a few minutes ago with the xserver problem in Breezy02:46
nhainesBig_Ed, that's enough for you to search the Ubuntu wiki.  You'll probably get more help from someone here who *isn't* leaving right now.  Which isn't me.02:46
nhainesTake care, room.  :)02:46
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p00fdoes Ubuntu have Cinelerra in the apt repository? TIA :)02:46
XorgProblemdpkg-reconfigure xserver-org went fine, but did not solve problem. Boot process still ends at a console screen02:46
el_toroXorgProblem: any error msgs?02:47
XorgProblemNone02:47
Dr_Willisthen it worked. :P02:47
p00fhttp://www.google.com/search?q=cinelerra&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official02:47
XorgProblemIt looks like an ordinary boot past cupsd02:47
Dr_Willislol02:47
Hobbseep00f: tia?02:47
p00fCinelerra rocks02:47
XorgProblemlol02:47
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Dr_Willistry a normal 'startx' and see what it says?02:47
Hobbseeoh, thanks in advance02:47
p00fThanks in advance + tia02:47
p00f=02:47
IanLiuhmm02:47
XorgProblemOK, will do.02:47
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IanLiurestart server is restart the PC? (sry im brazzilian)02:47
p00fopps sorry wrong link02:48
p00fhttp://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php302:48
oxezHi, I created a 9 GB FAt32 partition on my harddrive to install a VMware Guess OS on it. But when I try to create a new guess os, it tells me the filesystem doesn't support large file sizes (I chose 4 gb in vmware). Did I forgot to do something or I can't just do that?02:48
p00fthat is cinelerra02:48
XorgProblemWhere in the boot process does startx usually take place? - and how script it to make it happen?02:48
Hobbseepoof: not on here02:48
IanLiuhow i restart server?02:48
p00fbummer :(02:48
p00fI many try compile from source02:48
Hobbseefind a deb for it?02:48
Dr_WillisXorgProblem,  its normally ran by the gdm service02:48
p00fI have been looking for almost a year now... no DEB... I realy dont want to install fedora 4 :(02:49
aukIanLiu: i didn't hear the rest of the converstaion, but i'm guessign as in the X srver?02:49
Hobbseep00f: good luck, i can never seem to make that work02:49
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Hobbseeyuck02:49
Hobbseerpm via alien?02:49
XorgProblemHow verify gdm runs?02:49
XorgProblemIncidentally, I don't think I've thanked anyone yet - thanks, thanks to all of you02:50
p00fyea, thanks from me too :)02:50
Hobbseelol...glad to see you arent like a certian person yesterday...was the first time i wished i had banning powers02:51
Dr_WillisMoo?02:51
Dr_Willis:P02:51
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XorgProblemhi - sorry 'bout that.02:51
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Dr_WillisXorgProblem,  you should see a "starting GDM" message.. or just start it manyally as root.02:52
Dr_Willis sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start02:52
XorgProblemty again02:52
Dr_Willisor theres some other way to do it..i forget. :P02:52
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el_torojust sudo gdm does the trick usually02:53
XorgProblemUm ... I forget too :D ... difference is, I never knew :p02:53
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Dr_Willisel_toro,  too easy!02:53
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XorgProblemty el_toro, Dr_Willis - I go to try ...02:53
el_toroheh02:53
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eazel7anybody has a eagle usb modem?02:55
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AngryParsleywell I found out why gnupod makes blank smart playlists02:59
Rubio_Medeiroshiiii02:59
AngryParsleyit doesn't support smart playlists02:59
Rubio_MedeirosOut there@02:59
AngryParsleyand yet they have pages of instructions on how to make smart playlists02:59
Rubio_MedeirosSomeones's brazilian here?03:00
phoenixbyrddoes the play launch firefox extension work for anyone else?03:00
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Rubio_MedeirosAlgum natalense aqui?03:00
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el_toroAngryParsley: does gtkpod do that?03:01
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rob_pRubio_Medeiros:  Parece que nao!  Pois falo.03:02
MrGardenHoseManhow do you mount an image?03:02
AngryParsleyel_toro: gtkpod deleted all the files on my ipod03:02
AngryParsleyI am pissed off at the gtkpod devs03:02
ParisiBrasileiro?03:03
el_toroAngryParsley: my goodness, how did gtkpod do that?03:03
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rob_pRubio_Medeiros:  Parisi :  Eles prefirem que a gente fala so Ingles nesta canal.03:03
foamcorewhats gtkpod03:03
jrrAngryParsley: you got newest version?03:03
foamcorefor ipod03:03
jrrfoamcore: a linux program to put songs on an ipod03:03
foamcore?03:03
AngryParsleyel_toro: I don't know, but even my copy of the stewie griffin movie was deleted03:04
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foamcorejrr: is it worth having an ipod?03:04
XorgProblemhi room03:04
AngryParsleyjrr: I got whatever version was the latest in the repository03:04
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VersedSure03:04
Parisirob_p Tudo bem, falo ingles 100% o dia todo anyways.03:04
rob_pParisi:  :-)03:04
AngryParsleyI love my ipod, but I wish itunes ran on linux03:04
jrrAngryParsley: CVS? i guess that'd be the most recent =] 03:04
XorgProblemdr_willis - thanks for advice; got one step further.03:04
jrrAngryParsley: it sort of can03:04
SPCcrowWhat is a good .mov player for Ubuntu?03:04
rob_pParisi:  Me too!03:04
AngryParsleyjrr: no, from the ubuntu repository03:04
kevogodIf the iPod worked with OGG Vorbis, I would buy it.03:04
jrrAngryParsley: ah-ha!03:05
QMarioHow do I download themes for Gaim?03:05
jrrit may be out of date03:05
foamcorejrr: do you get non mainstream music on the ipod like U2 vertigo..if thats the only song on it...that would suck03:05
QMarioSeveas, are you back?03:05
jrrQMario: gaim uses the same theme as all of your gtk apps03:05
jrr*gtk203:05
AngryParsleyjrr: so I should install the development version and see if IT deletes everything on my ipod?03:05
XorgProblemstartx runs, and I get the oldtime graphical interface of little black and white cross-hatches, no desktop03:05
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XorgProblemDoesn't matter if I manually start gdm first or not03:05
dr_willisXorgProblem,  did you do a full install or a server install?03:05
jrrAngryParsley: i'd back it up elsewhere before even *attempting* to sync w/ linux03:05
AngryParsleyall I want is smart playlist support, and there seems to be no program on linux that can do it03:05
kevogod"Smart Playlist"?03:06
jrrXorgProblem: edit your .xinitrc to change what happens during startx (try "exec xterm")03:06
AngryParsleyjrr: well I backed up my songs and ipod database beforehand, but I didn't think it would delete other stuff03:06
XorgProblemWas not a clean install; I ran an upgrade from Hoary03:06
kevogodDoesn't amaroK support something like that?03:06
jrrAngryParsley: itunes is one of the reasons i keep windows around. maybe someday i'll try linuxpodding, too03:06
QMarioJrr, I can't find any themes in SPM.03:06
dr_willisXorgProblem,  no clue there...  ;p i refomatd/reinstalled03:06
jrrQMario: spmg?03:06
jrr*spm03:06
jrrtry art.gnome.org03:07
XorgProblemreformat /reinstall is not a good option for me.03:07
XorgProblemA lot of existing work03:07
QMarioSynaptic Package Manager.03:07
AngryParsleykevogod: smart playlists are dynamically updated, meaning you can select songs that meet certain criteria03:07
AngryParsleyI have a smart playlist of my favorite songs, which are songs with a 5 star rating03:07
jrrQMario: i don't use synaptic much, but try apt-cache search gnome-themes03:07
XorgProblemjrr - I'm a dunce. Can sudo gedit, but what do I change?03:07
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rubemHi there...03:07
Rubio_Medeiros#natal03:07
rubemwhere do I found emacs?03:07
phoenixbyrdI need help getting the realplayer plugins working03:08
Hobbsee!emacs03:08
ubotuHobbsee: Do they come in packets of five?03:08
jrrXorgProblem: .xinitrc is executed when you use startx, but GDM ignores it.  i think you need to solve the problem another way, which i don't know =\03:08
QMarioJrr, I think you misunderstood me. How do I get the emoticon(smiley) themes?03:08
jrrQMario: yes, i misunderstood you =] 03:08
dr_willisin .xinitrc - put the 2lines...03:08
jrrQMario: dunno, try #gaim03:08
dr_willisxterm &03:08
dr_willisgnome-session03:08
rubemdoes anyone know which repositorie has the emacs?03:08
QMarioWow there's a channel for that????03:08
dr_willisand try 'startx'03:08
el_toroXorgProblem: have you checked the Xorg logs to see what's happening?03:08
jrrQMario: been around a long time =] 03:09
QMarioHee.03:09
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XorgProblemel_toro No ... can do, though; logs live where?03:09
el_toro/var/log03:10
eazel7anybody uses eagle usb modems?03:10
el_toroXorg.0.log, it should be called03:10
BlankBrubem: main03:10
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djjasonhi all, is it possible to update libc6 through apt-get03:10
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XorgProblemdr_willis - let me feed that back: edit xinitrc; add two lines: xterm and gnome-session, and also add startx?03:10
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XorgProblemel_toro - what directory does the log live in?03:11
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XorgProblem.xinitrc lives in ~ ?03:13
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limerhello guys.  I have an interesting situation.  I need to use ssh over 80.  this works internally but not externally03:13
dr_willisXorgProblem,  no... startx reads that file03:13
fmasi_hi where should i add mount --bind /from /to can i put that in /etc/fstab03:13
lcharly_TheOnecan somebody help my03:13
lcharly_TheOnemy mplayer don't work03:13
dr_willisand its 'xterm &' on one line  then 'gnome-session' on the next03:13
dr_willisxterm is optional but handy03:13
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XorgProblemAh. 'xterm &'03:13
XorgProblemOK03:13
cefdjjason: yes03:13
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lcharly_TheOnewhen i play a video file it's closed by signal 1103:13
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dr_willisforget the & and thenext line wont run03:14
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joniak99anyone::::how or with what ? do i burn dvd from avi file03:14
lcharly_TheOnesomething about a video codec03:14
jrrdr_willis: you start your x sessions with an extra xterm?03:14
XorgProblemI'm assuming the file doesn't exist. Where should I create it?03:14
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jrr~/.xinitrc03:14
Lord_AthurHi03:14
XorgProblemThank you all :D03:14
dr_willislinux and X fundamentals ;p03:14
dr_willisold-skool03:14
XorgProblemI hope I'll be seeing you without benefit of the liveCD shortly ...03:14
djjasoncef, how can I, I am running hoary...and using mu sources list I have the most recent version03:14
XorgProblem<-- older03:14
dr_willisyou could install an  console irc client ya know.....03:15
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dr_willisirssi is handy03:15
dr_willis:)03:15
XorgProblemI knew Netware inside and out. But Linux ... not so much03:15
XorgProblemirssi03:15
XorgProblemWill find it.03:15
dr_willisyou can do most anything from the shell lol03:15
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XorgProblemdoes Breezy include either lynx or irssi?03:15
cefdjjason: then you don't need to upgrade it perhaps?03:15
limerhi guys.  I have an interesting situation.  I need to use ssh over 80.  this works internally but not externally.  anyone may know what's happening?03:15
kevogodXorgProblem, You can install them from packages.03:15
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XorgProblemCool beans. Thank you all again. Once I have this puppy up and running I will do that.03:16
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XorgProblemYou never know what you'll need.03:16
thechrisneed help with nvidia drivers03:16
fmasi_hi where should i add mount --bind /from /to can i put that in /etc/fstab ??03:16
djjasoncef, I do...I was trying to install pine and it says that it needs libc6 2.3.2.ds1-21 but I have 2.3.2.ds1-20 which is the latest according to apt03:16
thechrisfor some reason, using nv or nvidia means i have a max resolution of 640x48003:17
cefdjjason: your sources must point at a version of the package that is newer to upgrade. If there is a newer version for hoary that you haven't installed, then run 'sudo apt-get update' to update the packages available03:17
thechrisvesa works at any res though03:17
thechrisalso, gdm stopped working03:17
cefdjjason: sounds like you might not have the security sources setup, or up to date03:17
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thechrisanyone know of an easy way to fix the nvidia issues i'm having?03:18
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rubemhow do i unpack a .tar.gz?03:18
Parisirubem tar xfvz ?03:19
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cefthechris: what sort of monitor/display do you have?03:19
lcharly_TheOneanyone know why my mplayer dosen't work it's something about a video codec03:19
Ramahthechris: is that your only setting within your x.org file?03:19
rubemParisi thanks03:19
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jrrRamah: need a little more information =] 03:19
djjasoncef, I did allready try apt-get update and it still shows my installed version as the latest one03:19
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Parisirubem No problem, look into the different options for tar03:20
jrrRamah: but even then, the #mplayer folks would be more likely to know03:20
St3althcAthey guys I'm having a problem playing World of Warcraft on Cedega, I can't attack enemies, loot corpses, etc.... Can someone help me? Thank you!03:20
cefdjjason: is the source providing pine an official one?03:20
thechrisRamah, i've also removed all of the other resolutions besides 1024x76803:20
yoink23St3althcAt, try #cedega03:20
Ramahhmm dunno03:20
djjasonI downloded a deb packge for pine form the pine website03:21
thechriscef, not sure what xorg thinks i have, but vesa does work at 1024x768.  nvidia doesn't03:21
dr_willisSt3althcAt,  you mean you cant 'select' any target - ie mailox. people, npc, etc......03:21
djjasoncef, so I am guessing that it is as official as it gets03:21
cefSt3althcAt: I think that's a known issue that's fixed in a later version.. try #cedega though03:21
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dr_willisits a known cedega/x issue that can be fixed  with a dll file change or somting - it was in their forums/faq the other day i saw03:22
cefdjjason: that'll be for debian. which has a different version of libc.. try removing it and then just 'apt-get install pine'.03:22
AlexanROdoes the "dpkg-scanpackages..." command need to be run everytime i add to my local repo?03:22
cefdjjason: pine is in the ubuntu repositories03:22
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cefthechris: yeah but is it a monitor, or a lcd display, or perhaps a laptop screen?03:23
thechriscef, monitor03:23
KRomeleoNwill ubyuntu by default have ssci drivers?03:23
KRomeleoNscsi03:23
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djjasoncef, really....I did a search and I could not find it03:24
cefthechris: hrm.. you might want to tell X it's horizontal and vertical scan rates.. you also might want to turn off EDID03:24
St3althcAtty03:24
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cefdjjason: then it'd probably be in the universe repository03:24
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thechriscef, EDID?03:25
djjasoncef, I just updated my sources list and now I am getting whole bunch of errors "couldnt stat source package" on a few entries03:25
durtOption "IgnoreEDID" true03:25
djjasoncef, when I do apt-get update03:25
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anethemadoesnt any0one know of a good news reader for linux? pref one in apt..one good for dling binaries?03:26
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cefthechris: I had to add the following lines to the "Monitor" section of my xorg.conf to get it to work on my laptop: Option "IgnoreEDID"03:26
cef ; HorizSync 29-5703:26
cef ; VertRefresh 43-6003:26
thechriswhy does everything always work so much easier in gentoo.03:26
nix4mepan is good newsreader03:26
anethemai hate pan03:26
dr_willisthechris,  i found the opposite to be true03:26
anethemahahah03:26
PajjDoes anyone know a good white ubuntu themed wallpaper?03:26
anethemapan sucks for binaries because after something is saved it takes FOREVER to be copied03:26
anethemadoesnt just dl into the dir you want which is horrible03:27
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Yetr2.... I still can't get the nvidia binary to install..03:27
cefthechris: EDID is a detection mechanism used to figure out the resolutions your monitor supports.. works over the cable between the monitor and the video card..03:27
AlexanROpajj: try gnome-look.org03:27
anethemathanks though, is there another/03:27
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thechrishow does X ever start?!  it should be complaining that her are no screens03:27
dr_willisi tend to use pan03:27
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ubuntu__hello03:27
durtyetr2: apt-get nvidia-glx03:27
Pajjah, thanks03:27
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dr_willislol - select all... save atacments.. ;-) for all my porn neds.03:27
Yetr2durt, already did that03:27
cefthechris: I found the nvidia one is a bit broken, and in fact, so is the EDID stuff in my laptop screen, making it twice as bad03:27
dr_willisbbl03:27
AlexanROpajj: np03:27
bytefoogentlemen, i have an issue with ubuntu :|03:28
bytefooit will not reboot :/03:28
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durtyetr2: change "nv" to "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:28
cefdjjason: sounds like your sources are wrong, or they didn't update.03:28
alyksI'm having some problems, whenever I try to rune apt-get update, some of the souces return an error: gzip: stdin: not in gzip format03:28
cevizoglubytefoo, why?  have you tried "sudo reboot" from the terminal?03:28
thechrisdid ubuntu even attempt to configure X?!03:28
djjasoncef: I copied them diretly from ubuntuguide.org03:28
bytefooyes, it will hang03:28
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misfit_toydurt, I'm confused about that, is that really the same as the latest nvidia drivers from the nvidia site? I use that but get a segfault when trying to do "nvidia-settings" or "glxgears" and I get no GL support in xscreensavers03:28
bytefoosomething like [4847376733.747474]  Rebooting...03:28
bytefooand just stay like that forever03:28
cefdjjason: no spaces at the start of the line?03:29
thechrisnow its complaining about GLX03:29
cevizoglubytefoo, did you try switching to another terminal session and looking to see what processes are still running?03:29
thechrisand is 640x48003:29
bytefoono, perhaps i will try that03:29
alyksI'm running 5.0403:29
bytefoothough even when i installed it it would not reboot03:29
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cefbytefoo: when does it hang?03:29
wmatjust apt-get dist-upgraded to breezy badger and X broke.  The log says "could not open default font 'fixed'".  Can anyone point me at a quick fix for this?03:30
djjasoncef: which line?03:30
hajikiis it possible to disable ipv6 alltogether from ubuntu03:30
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XorgProblemhi room03:30
bytefooat the very end of the rebooting process03:30
Lord_Athurhi03:30
XorgProblemStill having the problem loading X03:30
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cefdjjason: which one did you add? which one most resembles the "stat" entries?03:30
misfit_toywmat, that happened to me to, I could never fix it, had to install fresh03:30
bytefooafter it has shut down everything03:30
cevizoglubytefoo, maybe your hardware isn't accepting the regular reboot command and just needs to be hard-rebooted each time03:30
andreshhi03:30
bytefooyes cevizoglu that is what i am forced to do03:30
XorgProblem:(03:30
andreshI need password to wiki ubuntu.com03:31
wmatmisfit_toy: thanks03:31
cefwmat: you might need to install some extra packages like ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-core03:31
cevizoglubytefoo, sound like an incompatibility with the motherboard03:31
andreshmy mail is bad03:31
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andreshI need help03:31
misfit_toywmat, and sorry for that info!03:31
cefwmat: there is something about it on the wiki somewhere03:31
bytefooit works with windows :/03:31
durtmisfit_toys: i think they are the real drivers, and you might need to comment out the "dri" lines03:31
bytefooand in 5.0403:31
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djjasoncef: well it st 404 Not Found03:31
djjasonErr http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/universe Packages03:31
djjasonarts by saying03:31
misfit_toydurt, did that, weird...ok thanks03:31
cevizoglubytefoo, submit a bug and it might get fixed more quickly03:31
thechrishaha, manual configuration works again03:32
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thechrisnow anyone know how to get GLX working?03:32
bytefooi shall03:32
WinZ :-*03:32
WinZsorry )03:32
thechrisnivida-glx is installed  but no idea how to get opengl-update03:32
cefdjjason: that might no longer be a valid repo03:32
bytefoowhich log file does the rebooting messages go to03:32
thechrisopengl-update anyone?03:32
andreshsomebody can helpme03:32
andresh?03:32
cefdjjason: why aren't you using a normal universe repo?03:32
djjasoncef: I thought I was....before....been a while since I looked at it03:33
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thechrisand i should say goodbye to synaptic...  no longers starts...03:34
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XorgProblemI'm tempted to reinstall Hoary; I have the CD.03:34
cefdjjason: official universe source line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe03:34
cevizogluis there a movielink equivalent on linux?03:34
XorgProblemI want to be super careful to preserve my existing partitions, though - esp my /home03:35
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cevizogluI mean, http://movielink.com03:35
XorgProblemI did not use the standard Ubuntu scheme, which may be part of the problem03:35
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triggerhello everyone :) i have a question that is killing me. i have installed ubuntu breezy, there was a linux image update from 2.12.8 to 2.12.9. Now i have both when i get to grub, i commented out the latest one because the splash screen was broken. My question is, can i keep using the old version. it works fine now, but im not sure about later....03:35
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el_toroXorgProblem: what does /var/log/Xorg.O.log say?03:36
djjasoncef: should that be instead of deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe03:36
cefdjjason: that should work just as well..03:36
thechrisnvidia + GLX = ???03:36
triggerthe old version is obsolete according to synaptic03:36
XorgProblemaw ... fooey. I forgot entirely to check it, el_toro. I'm sick today and not tracking as well as I ought to be03:36
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LickerIs there a way to connect internet to Ubuntu via USB?03:36
el_toroXorgProblem: np, there might something useful in it03:37
Gobblawhen breezy is stable, should you make a clean install or is it fine to just upgrade?03:37
_jasonGobbla:  I just upgraded and it is fine03:37
XorgProblemI just upgraded and am in trouble ... :)03:37
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Gobblalol03:37
Termin8torLicker, if your using a speedtouch dsl modem you can connect to the net using ubuntu03:37
Termin8torvia usb03:38
cefthechris: if you've got nvidia's drivers installed (using the packages in ubuntu, not the downloaded installer from nvidia), have you run nvidia-glx-config yet? 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'03:38
djjasoncef: I removed some of the sources I believe are not available anymore....ran update and that finished without any problems. Searched for pine and found it but I got this error when I tried to install. Package pine has no available version, but exists in the database.03:38
LickerTermin8tor: I have cable.. whats speedtouch though?03:38
triggerhow do someone upgrade from version to version. is that possible?03:38
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XorgProblemis there an easy way to mount my HD while running from the live CD?03:38
Termin8toroh, speedtouch is a type of usb DSL modem, if you have cable why don't you use ethernet?03:39
LickerI have USB on my cable modem.03:39
el_torotrigger: as in upgrade from hoary to breezy?03:39
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wizardhi all03:39
cefdjjason: actually I'm on breezy, and just noticed that pine isn't available either. erk. that's no fun03:39
Termin8torlicker : Not totally sure about USB with your cable modem, try googling the brand name of your modem for linux drivers?03:39
Lickermy router is screwd up and wont let me host. all the ports are auto configged and cant be changed and they are wrong. SSOO.. i wanna put that box on via USB to get its own IP addy03:39
triggerno, as an upgrade from breeze the testing to breezy the final to the next ubuntu in the future :)03:40
wizardis there a way to install sb live 5.1 somehow ? i cant turn mp3s up loud or distorts ?03:40
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kbrookstrigger: yes thats possible03:40
_[i heard that GNOME is bloated...is this true?03:40
cefdjjason: basically if you were really desperate, you'd want to install libc6 from debian sarge, but I DO NOT recommend doing that in any way, as you can expect that a lot of ubuntu will stop working.. important things, like X and Gnome03:40
el_torotrigger: yes, just keep updating03:40
triggerhi kbrooks, do you know how or can you tell me where can i find info on it ?03:40
triggerok03:41
XorgProblemBTW - problem with X continues as follows. Tried to load xterm - bash said "xterm? why how you talk, what xterm?"03:41
XorgProblemSame w/gnome-session03:41
kbrookstrigger: dont ask specific people03:41
djjasoncef: I see....crap.....then I will just have to patiently wait for Mr. Ubuntu to fix this :)03:41
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triggerok :)03:41
triggersorry03:41
cefdjjason: so I think you either will have to download the package source, and compile a package yourself, or go without pine03:41
kbrookstrigger: it gets annoying. totally/03:41
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dicrapiohello03:41
kbrooks_[: opinion03:41
djjasoncef: I think I will let this go for now.....thanks for all your help though03:41
cefdjjason: no problem03:42
rubemcan I unpack a .iso?03:42
_[kbrooks, so its not true?03:42
kbrooks_[: subjective, i'm not gonna answer ;)03:42
CarlFKrubem - you can mount it03:42
dicrapioquick ques, whats the easiest way tomake a deb pkg?03:42
_[kbrooks, ok then thanks ;_03:42
rubemCarlFK, how?03:42
triggerwao, i was afraid that i had to reinstall the new ubuntu when i comes out in a week03:43
kbrooksrubem: mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mount/point03:43
kbrookstrigger: this isnt windows/03:43
kbrooks.*03:43
triggeri mean when it comes out03:43
trigger:) thanks god03:43
triggerit is not03:43
XorgProblemLet me ask a different qstn - when I last reinstalled Hoary, I remember seeing a confusing prompt about whether to use my existing partitions or not. Can anyone tell me what I should say? I ****DO**** want (need) to use my existing partitions; they have data I need03:44
kbrooksrubem: then cp -ar /mount/point /other/path03:44
XorgProblemThat is - if I reinstall Hoary03:44
wickedpuppyXorgProblem, normally i use different partition as my /home03:44
kbrooksrubem: then umount (if done using it) with either umount /path/to/iso or umount /mount/point03:45
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XorgProblemCan I tell the installation to skip my /home, wickedpuppy?03:45
XorgProblemThat is - not format it; not repartition?03:45
wickedpuppyso if i have to reinstall , i just install everything into / and mount /home partition03:45
Termin8torDoes anyone know a good site for resources for someone who knows absolutely nothing about programming to start learning?03:45
wickedpuppyXorgProblem, nope if you only have /03:45
wickedpuppyyou got to mount /home in a different partition03:45
cefok.. almost midday.. time for breakfast. *grin*03:45
XorgProblemHave different partition structure03:45
kbrooksTermin8tor: try learning python. its a great language03:45
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XorgProblem... and /home is in its own partition03:46
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wickedpuppyyou ?03:46
wickedpuppythen good03:46
XorgProblemThing is, I remember wondering whether the prompt to keep the existing partition structure really meant what it said03:46
Termin8torkbrooks, know any good resource sites for python by any chance? =)03:46
XorgProblemIt was a confusing wording03:46
kbrooksTermin8tor: very easy to learn03:46
triggerone last question for the nignt :)03:46
wickedpuppynormally use custom partition ... create primary partitions ... mount one as / and mount another as /home03:46
wickedpuppybingo03:46
triggeri have to versions of the linux kernel03:47
kbrooksTermin8tor: um maybe google could help you out... or maybe this03:47
alyksI'm getting a lot of problems when running apt-get update03:47
wickedpuppytrigger, uname -r03:47
XorgProblemHm ... how big a / partition?03:47
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XorgProblemActually, n/m on that question03:47
kbrookshttp://www.google.ca/search?q=thinkcspy&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial -- first result03:47
alyksI keep getting "Couldn't stat source package03:47
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alyks"03:47
kbrookshttp://www.google.ca/search?q=byte+of+python&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial03:47
wickedpuppyXorgProblem, / xcan be about 10 gig and 30 gig for /home ... thats my system ... total 40 gig03:47
XorgProblemI want to stay with what I've set up; I'm scared to death of losing my data03:47
kbrooksfirst result03:47
triggerone is 2.6.12.8 and the other is 2.6.12.903:47
triggercan i stay with the old one since the new broke my bootsplash03:48
Termin8torthanks kbrooks03:48
Termin8torits appreciated =)03:48
triggeri commented out the new one03:48
kbrookshttp://www.google.ca/search?q=diveintopython&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial (read this later on into your foray) -- first result03:48
alyksand it also says that some of the packages aren't in gzip format03:49
XorgProblemI really wish I could get X to run, even temporarily, before I did anything potentially destructive03:49
triggeris there a bit different between these two versions?03:49
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cefalyks: paste your sources.list at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl so we can look at it03:49
cevizogluwhen I download .mov files from http://beastieboys.com/video.php and then try to play them in amarok, beep, kaffeine, mplayer, vlc, etc. it doesn't fails to play the audio with error: could not load codec. what codec do I need to install? the video works, though03:49
wickedpuppyXorgProblem, have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?03:50
cevizogluer, it fails to play...03:50
XorgProblemYep03:50
wickedpuppyif not give it a try03:50
wickedpuppyreally ?03:50
wickedpuppyi fixed my X with it03:50
XorgProblemIt seems to run OK, and it warns me that I'm overwriting my existing .xinetrc file03:50
wickedpuppyi also broke my X when i upgraded03:50
wickedpuppy:P03:50
XorgProblemHm ...03:50
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XorgProblemWhat did you do, wickedpuppy, to fix it?03:50
wickedpuppyoverwrite then03:51
XorgProblemStep by newbie step03:51
wickedpuppyi just went through the thing03:51
surfaceafter upgrade to breezy03:51
wickedpuppythats it03:51
XorgProblemYes, I did that03:51
wickedpuppyand save03:51
XorgProblemMan.03:51
wickedpuppydid you let it overwrite ?03:51
surfaceit cause some problem03:51
XorgProblemI've done that, but all I get out of X is the crosshatch screen with the mouse pointer03:51
theplateauhow can i enable the switch user function in the kde panel so i can easily launch a new gui?03:51
XorgProblemYes, let it overwrite03:51
surfacemy firefox always hang03:51
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theplateausometimes its there sometimes it isn't i don't get it03:51
wickedpuppyXorgProblem, go through again choose slowly03:51
el_toroXorgProblem: could be a problem w/font paths or sthng like that03:51
surfaceit diff to access to internet03:51
XorgProblemOK ... will go through it again.03:52
XorgProblemThanks, wickedpuppy.03:52
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wickedpuppywhen i was in slackware 5 or so i went through XFree86 10 times in one night ...03:52
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XorgProblemel_toro - how troubleshoot font path issues?03:52
wickedpuppylol03:52
XorgProblemlol03:52
wickedpuppywell i gotta go for me date :P good luck with ya X03:52
XorgProblemenjoy, wickedpuppy -  have a great evening03:52
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XorgProblemthanks again03:53
el_toroXorgProblem: by taking a look at the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log in nano or other text ed03:53
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XorgProblemTY el_toro03:53
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XorgProblemnano runs in term?03:53
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el_toroXorgProblem: yep03:53
XorgProblemcool - thank you again03:53
el_toronp03:53
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rob_pXorgProblem:  you can cat the logfile and pipe it through less as well...03:54
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Ramahlol I started working on my lfs project lastnight and I managed to forget the user and root password lol03:54
Lickerwell, i just called my cable modems 1-800 # and they said they dont support via USB for Macs or Linux.  :/03:54
cefanyone know why mplayer in breezy has issues while playing wmv, but totem doesn't? video is all jerky in mplayer.. eg: pauses up to 1/2 second every second.03:54
kbrooksLicker: well03:55
kbrookswant to know something?03:55
kbrookspsst.03:55
DShepherdhey03:55
DShepherdwhat does apt-get purge actually do?03:55
MrGardenHoseManGuys anyone know how to mount iso files?03:55
kbrooksa usb modem has a ethernet card in it03:55
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Lickeryea i know03:55
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dicrapiohas anyone tried to install knemo? i get an error saying there sopme files from knetworkconf installed (mostly icons) so knemo wont install03:55
dicrapioany thoughts?03:56
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dicrapiosorry wrong window :)03:56
cefDShepherd: 'apt-get --purge remove packagename' completely removes the package, and all it's config files from the disk.03:56
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Lickerkbrook: i have *4* PCs. I have them all hooked into my router. BUT, for some reason the ports are all configured wrong etc. So I cant host off of it.  Thats why i was wanting to connect Via-USB  ;)03:56
DShepherdthanks cer03:57
cefDShepherd: also will usually remove any data the package has accumulated as well (eg: if it's a database).. USE WITH CAUTION03:57
DShepherdthanks cef03:57
gnubiehi guys. need some help with grub. i suddenly got a grub error 18 message after a bad shutdown03:57
morphiushackerI am behind a campus network which is firewalled. I was wondering if I set up a vpn server off campus at my home, if I would be able to tunnel out and connect to that network and foreward ports to my computer back behind the firewall, so that I could connect to various services. Does anyone know if this would work?03:58
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cefmorphiushacker: it can work, but your campus may not like you for it.03:59
morphiushackerthat's ok03:59
morphiushackerI work for the computer department anyway. I just don't have access to those servers03:59
cefmorphiushacker: I do similar stuff using ssh from work03:59
morphiushackerWhat programs would you reccomend for this?04:00
cefmorphiushacker: using ssh's Dynamic Port forwarding (-D port#), and then treating the local port as a socks proxy.04:00
rob_pMrGardenHoseMan:  mount -o loop -t iso9660 yourfile.iso /wherever/04:00
MrGardenHoseManthanks04:00
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Zhukov_Seveas, are you there04:00
Zhukov_need a quick word with you04:00
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cefmorphiushacker: so then you can either use socks-aware programs, or a socks wrapper script (like dante).04:01
Zhukov_very important04:01
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cevizogluis there a log file where kaffeine and the other video players store errors?04:01
cefmorphiushacker: you can only do ipv4 tcp/udp over socks though... no icmp/igmp/raw/ipv6, etc.. but I find tcp/udp enough04:02
morphiushackerthat's all I need anyway04:02
morphiushackerAnd it'll be encrypted so that pretty much covers what I will need.04:02
Yetr2not cool... glxgears isn't giving me a screen rate04:03
Yetr2fos04:03
Yetr2fps*04:03
morphiushackerThanks cef, Ill go google that and get it all done. UBUNTU ROX!04:03
cefmorphiushacker: I even use it at home, so I don't have to change my config. just fire up the ssh session, and away I go.04:03
cefmorphiushacker: no probs04:03
morphiushackersweet04:03
cevizogluis there an app which displays logged errors, kind of like Console on Mac OS X?04:04
cefok, really time for breakfast now04:04
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ceflater04:04
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misfit_toycevizoglu, "sudo tail -f /var/log/messages" will show you live logged messages04:04
gnubiehi guys. need some help with grub. i suddenly got a grub error 18 message after a bad shutdown04:04
Zhukov_anyone has Seveas w32codecs package? Or his script for detecting windows partitions? Need them for an add-on cd!04:04
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rubemhi there04:05
rob_pYetr2:  Try, "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"04:05
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rubemcan I hide the bars of the desktop?04:06
misfit_toyrob_p, isn't that so stupid?04:06
cevizoglumisfit_toy, thx04:06
rob_pmisfit_toy:  Yeah!04:06
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chsguy55guys what is a cool game to play on the net for free.. besides wesnoth?04:06
chsguy55anyone04:06
hondjebzflag04:07
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=== misfit_toy 's glxgears segfaults anyway, but I can tell I have good video speed just by the way the laptop acts, weird though.
PajjDoes anyone know where I can find out more about dual booting ubuntu/windows, preferebly on seperate hard drives?04:07
cvt|kbobtest04:07
rubemhow do I install the direct X on wine???04:07
_jasonPajj:  have you searched the wiki?04:07
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Yetr2rob_p, tell me why all the other versions of glxgears i've used atleast gave me an fps rate?04:07
misfit_toyPajj, http://ubuntuforums.org04:07
cvt|kbobi have live cd of knoppix but it won't run on ubuntu.  will you help me?04:08
misfit_toycvt|kbob, that is an insane question04:08
cvt|kboboh sorry04:08
cvt|kbobwrong channel04:08
naliothPajj: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation04:08
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cvt|kbobnew question: what command do i hit to get to the prompt where i can boot from a live cd?04:09
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kbrooksAny *cool* applications that you all frequently use?04:10
rob_pYetr2:  Probably because the developer wanted the userbase to be sure that glxgears is not an optimal tool for doing benchmarks... I'd assume :-)04:10
wmati just fixed my 'default font 'fixed'' not found problem after upgrading to breezy04:10
wmatfound the answer here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36458904:11
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Yetr2not interested in benchmarks.. just wanted to see where I stood with the possibility of running some other 3d applications like screen savers and pretty xmms things04:11
wmatjust edit you xorg.conf file fonts section to point back to the /usr/share/X11/fonts locations04:12
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rob_pYetr2:  Good.  Then now you know how to enable fps output for your purposes...04:13
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aukdoes breeezy include xchat-gnome?04:13
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wmatauk: it includes xchat. is xchat-gnome different?04:14
aukwmat: yes04:14
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aukhttp://xchat-gnome.navi.cx/04:15
nutatehello, am I correct in the knowledge that ubuntu 5.10 will be out on the tenth? with kubuntu following in short order?04:15
Yetr2rob_p, you could have saved me the trouble and told me that the -option was not scarcasm...04:16
Hobbseenutate: 13th, and they should be released together04:16
nutateHobbsee: thanks04:16
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Hobbseenutate: there are daily cd's that you can try now, or just download the RC, which was the daily cd yesterday04:16
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wmatauk: after upgrading, dpkg -l xchat shows xchat 2.4.4-0Ubuntu504:16
nutateHobbsee: it's a totally smooth upgrade path, right?04:17
delaneywith the mirrormax backports gone.. what is a person supposed to do to get blackbox .70 .. or any other packages that arent on the new official repos?04:17
kbrooksnutate: technically rough04:17
nutateHobbsee: is there beagled support (inotify, etc) built in?04:17
naliothubotu: tell delaney about backports04:17
Hobbseenutate: theoretically, yes, whether it works or not, the answer is sometimes04:17
aukwmat: well i would expect breezy to include both xchat and xchat-gnome04:17
kbrooksnutate: there is04:17
aukooof backports04:18
joe_so how do i access my realplayter after i've extracted it04:18
kbrooksnutate: i tried beagle and it "just Works"(tm)04:18
auk!info xchat-gnome04:18
Hobbseenutate: downloading an install cd and installing from there is often safer04:18
rob_pYetr2:  I meant no sarcasm... actually, I simply googled it for you and that's what a couple of pages turned up.  Anyway, I'm sorry if I offended you.04:18
nutateHobbsee: yeah, on this godforsaken fc4 box beagled was really hard to get going04:18
aukis ubotu still on hoary?04:18
kbrooksauk: xchat-gnome is reundant imo04:18
kbrooks!info xchat-gnome breezy04:18
aukkbrooks; then remove xchat04:18
nutatekbrooks: I'm glad to hear that04:18
ubotuxchat-gnome: (a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.5-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1329 kB, Installed size: 4092 kB04:18
Hobbseenutate: i use kubuntu, so i dont use beagle at all, so i wouldnt know04:18
delaneythats wonderful and ive done that04:18
kbrooksauk: you misread04:18
delaneybut before apt-get install blackbox would give me a .70 version04:18
auk!info xchat breezy04:19
nutateHobbsee: beagle is pretty agnostic about that as a daemon04:19
delaneynow im getting an obsolete .65 version04:19
ubotuxchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 664 kB04:19
kbrooksauk; you read it as 'xchat is reundant'04:19
aukhmm04:19
kbrooksredundant04:19
aukyes04:19
auk...04:19
nutateHobbsee: it's just the client is written in mono... there is a client for kde called kat04:19
delaneyi found that repo on the forums.. and when i updated and tried.. and it didnt work04:19
delaneyi thought someone here might have a solution04:19
wmatauk: my bad, you can apt-get install xchat-gnome04:19
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nutatehttp://kat.mandriva.com/04:19
Hobbseenutate: true, i knew that...but havent tried it04:19
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aukkbrooks, what did you mean?04:20
kbrooksauk04:20
kbrookser04:20
nutateHobbsee: yeah, i am in this really sickened state... using windows, linux, and os x a lot has sickened me to the worst of all three04:20
kbrooksauk: xchat is ok. xchat-gnome is not, imo04:20
nutate(a lot meaning having to use them all every day)04:20
Hobbseeeek04:20
aukkbrooks; why?04:21
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aukkbrooks, imho, then there should be no xchat; just xchat-gnome04:21
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naliothauk: use what you like04:21
N6REJanyone know how well the new pc games will run under ubuntu?04:21
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wmatall anyone needs is irssi anyway :)04:21
N6REJthinking about giving my son ubuntu on his system :D04:21
aukbecause xchat-gnome fits in better with the ubuntu philosophy04:21
Hobbseewhich game are you talking about?04:22
kbrooksauk: i'm not saying that xchat-gnome should be *installed by default* -- i depise a mix of them04:22
N6REJCall of duty is his favorite04:22
N6REJbut I'm sure as time goes by he's going to want to play all of them.04:22
aukkbrooks: i know04:22
Hobbseeprobably check in the gaming forums on ubuntuforums.com04:22
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Hobbseei'm guessing you'd need to run the ones wihtout linux ports under cedega04:22
nutatehttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/2253 <-- comparison of beagle and kat (from a admittedly biased source, the author of Kat)04:22
marco_hi everybody !04:22
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marco_do u know an IRC channel in french for ubuntu please ?04:23
auknalioth: i have no problem with there being both xchat and xchat-gnome, i will use what i like04:23
v3n0wHi people! I need help! my ps2 optical mouse dont work... What can i do????04:23
kbrooks!fr04:23
ubotuwell, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais04:23
marco_yes kbrooks soory !lol04:23
marco_sorry04:23
N6REJis cedega a paid program?04:23
kbrooksmarco_: dont be04:23
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kbrooksN6REJ: yes and no04:24
XenguyN6REJ: yep04:24
marcowhy ?04:24
marcokbrooks,04:24
kbrooksN6REJ: there are packaged .debs u have to pay for04:24
v3n0wWhor can help me with my ps2 mouse?04:24
N6REJ*sigh*04:24
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kbrooksN6REJ: but u can compile from source04:24
kevogodYou can compile Cedega from CVS04:24
kevogodbut it hardly ever works04:24
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kbrooksN6REJ: use google to find out, i'm not about to link you to the area, and imply endorsement of cedega ;)04:25
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esac_i downloaded bittornado, what it is called so i can download torrents ? i see btdownloadheadless but i'm not sure if that's it04:25
Xenguybut I'm not a desperate linux gamer either ;-)04:26
kebv3n0w did the lights come on the mouse when you boot?04:26
naliothesac_: it's btdownloadcurses.py04:26
N6REJkbrooks: ok, so let me ask you this, I know he's going to want to play 1942, cod, and this is his first system.  I'd LIKE to turn him onto linux, he uses a mac at school.  I could give him 98se.  I'd give'm XP but we lost our 3rd install disk.04:26
esac_nalioth: thanks04:26
nutateesac_: that is a very unGUI python client04:26
v3n0wkeb, when i bot yes, but on the start of ubuntu the light turn off!!!04:26
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v3n0w*boot04:26
N6REJwe have mine, but I don't know what that would do to my license04:27
naliothesac_: unless you want gui goodness, then it's btdownloadgui.py04:27
esac_what's a good gui download client ? i dont like loading 109 MB of memory bloated java programs04:27
something_elseAny of you own a Freecom - DVB-T USB card?04:27
esac_k04:27
naliothesac_: use btdownloadcurses + gnu screen04:27
nutateI have a strange feeling the University of So. Cal. blocks bittorrent...04:27
nutatenalioth: that won't be confusing...04:27
naliothnutate: confusing?04:27
kbrooksN6REJ: quetions up front pls04:28
nutatenalioth: well, I guess if esac_ has used screen before it's not04:28
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N6REJlol, sorry, what would you suggest I install on his system?04:28
kebv3n0w, does the mouse show up when you type "dmesg"04:28
naliothi have walkthroughs on 'gnu screen'04:28
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v3n0wkeb, dmesg???? what is this? a command?04:28
kebyes04:29
esac_ive used screen before, not a big deal, but i can't find btdownload*.py anywhere04:29
nutatenalioth: it's one of the most useful pieces of software, period04:29
nutateesac_: my apologies for assuming your ignorance04:29
kbrooksnalioth: sounds like i reinvented the wheel in writing a extremely basic and stripped down howto for gnu screen listing a few basic commands04:29
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naliothkbrooks: everything has it's place. you can add my URLs to your howto04:30
N6REJkbrooks: any suggestions?04:30
v3n0wkeb, no, i dont see it04:30
kebhmm04:30
esac_nutate: no problem, but you can assume my ignorance in finding bittornado .. i did a find . -iname btdownload*.py from / and didn't find anything04:30
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kbrooksnalioth: OK, I'll rewrite it and link to your urls...04:30
v3n0wkeb, only the usb mouse works04:31
kebv3n0w does the mouse appear in the Device Manager under the System, Administration menu?04:31
twystedesac_ remove the .py from btdownload*  since the ubuntu package stripped the files of the .py extension04:31
naliothesac_: "sudo updatedb && locate btdownloadcurses.py"04:31
esac_thanks04:32
Jacko115any good with boot sector problems and ntfs partions here?04:32
v3n0wkeb, it apears ps2/usb... then i clik and see: bus type:usb04:32
Jacko115anyone good with boot sector problems and ntfs partions here?04:32
naliothesac_: if you've apt-getted your bittornado, see the above comment04:32
twystedjacko115, just ask04:32
kebv3n0w i don't know04:32
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banninghello04:33
v3n0wkeb, grrrr man.... its the secund linux i have this problem....04:33
banninganyone played with dnsmasq?04:33
Jacko115I am currently using ubuntu linux and ran out of room on the linux drive so I resized my ntfs drive. This somehow stuffed up the whole booting into windows thing but I was still able to access my hard drive from linux. A friend of mine suggested it was the MBR which was at fault so I ran the fixmbr program on the windows xp disk and that did nothing. Then I tried the fixboot program and that unfortunately changed something (I'm guessi04:33
nutateesac_: the names changed to bittorrent- instead of bt-04:33
Jacko115partition as it thinks it is a fat16 partition. is there anyway to fix this?04:34
v3n0wkeb, in winxp the mouse only word well, after the win install a driver....04:34
naliothJacko115: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:34
kebi dont know how the drivers work.  just wanted to confirm the mouse hardware is working and visible to the OS04:35
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banningi am trying to configure default gateway option on dnsmaq.conf , but i cant remember what option it is04:36
banningdoes anyone know which dhcp-option it is?04:36
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v3n0wkeb, ok thanks....04:36
kebsorry v3n0w :/04:36
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N6REJkbrooks: can you tell me wether I would find the sources for cedega on transgamings site or on freshmeat?04:37
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Jedrickcan i open .opg file in oppen office to microsoft word?04:37
v3n0wanyone can HELP ME with a ps2 optical mouse that dont work????04:37
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twystedN6REJ> cedega is not open source04:37
v3n0wkeb, thanks.. i learn a command ;)04:37
kebcool04:37
kbrooks|bedtwysted: it is04:37
naliothN6REJ: all of the above04:37
kbrooks|bedtwysted: you just dont get it04:37
nutatev3n0w: if you /msg me the model name perhaps that would help04:37
naliothN6REJ: you want cedega-cvs04:37
twystedkbrooks apparently i dont, ass04:37
Jedrickcan i open .opg file in oppen office to microsoft word?04:37
N6REJok.  Looks like it supports all of the games he wants to play.04:37
N6REJnalioth: ty!04:38
v3n0wnutate, is a generic mouse... dont have model or mark...04:38
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kebmicrosoft word doesnt read open office files. you have to save as rtf04:38
kebor as .doc04:38
Jacko115when I try and mount my ntfs partion it comes up with04:38
Jedrickok04:38
Jedrickthnx man04:38
Jacko115[4298733.289000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda1): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Primary boot sector is invalid.04:38
Jacko115[4298733.289000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda1): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Mount option errors=recover not used. Aborting without trying to recover.04:38
Jacko115[4298733.289000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda1): ntfs_fill_super(): Not an NTFS volume.04:38
N6REJnalioth: would you recommend giving my son straight ubuntu or dual boot 98se & ubuntu or straight windoze?04:38
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naliothN6REJ: how old is your youngun?04:39
Lickerwhat was that site that lets you use Windows drivers etc?04:39
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naliothLicker: be more specific04:39
v3n0wnutate, oh have a model.... C-181-PS2-W...... Its helps?04:39
rob_pbanning:  If it conforms to the same pattern as in dhcpd.conf, the the following should work, "option routers ip_address"04:39
N6REJnalioth: 13  He uses a mac at school, and loves call of duty.  This will be his first system.  Its a Athlon xp 1700+ with 512mb pc2100 & a 80gb hd.04:39
N6REJnalioth: but only a 64mb video card.04:40
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naliothN6REJ: it'd be considered child abuse to give him windows04:40
rob_pbanning:  If not, then I don't know.04:40
Lickerhumm.. Someone today gave me a link taht would allow me to use Network Card Drivers on my linux.04:40
naliothLicker: ndiswrapper04:40
twystedN6REJ, ubuntu all the way man :D04:40
N6REJnalioth: I hear ya :D ok, I hope he learns to love linux.04:40
N6REJthanks guys.04:40
Lickeryea thats it04:41
Lickeru know anything about it?04:41
N6REJhis birthday was the 5th, so I need to finish his system... Dads been a bad boy and been slow.04:41
naliothubotu: tell Licker about ndiswrapper04:41
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kevogodnalioth, Yes, you have to give a child a Mac.04:41
Licker!info ndiswrapper04:42
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Lickernot workin04:42
windexN6REJ, imho, ubuntu is closer to macos than windows. :)04:42
dennishHi there folks!04:42
v3n0wnutate, so.... u is here?04:42
Jedrickkeb:  ey man which one of this three, microsoft word 97/200/xp, microsoft word 95 or microsoft word 6.0?04:42
twysted microsoft word 97/200/xp04:42
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N6REJThat makes sense.  He could use the mac theme also.  Give'm Gnome or Kde?04:42
Jedrickok thnx04:42
kebjedediah well it depends what version is on the target machine04:42
twystedn6rej, gnome04:42
kevogodDefinitely GNOME.04:42
keber04:42
windexN6REJ, that is a total flame war topic. :)04:43
kebJedrick04:43
keblol04:43
naliothy'all can take the box building talk to #ubuntu-offtopic04:43
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kevogodI fold boxes.04:43
N6REJgreat, I like gnome too... yeah I know.. you could argue for icewm and a million others.... almost as bad as editors LOL04:43
dennishGuys I feel silly asking this.. How do I access my windows partition in Ubuntu?04:43
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naliothubotu: tell dennish about windowsdrives04:43
dennishGnome is faster than KDE for sure04:43
N6REJreligon, politics, editors, distro's, gui's  :S04:43
dennishI'm used to Suse, mandrake and Knoppix04:43
windexN6REJ, dont forget kernels.04:44
dennishKDe is what i'm most familiar with..04:44
N6REJomg, thats true too.04:44
naliothlets try to get back on topic here, please04:44
nutatev3n0w: i can't say i have any insight into your problem, sorry04:44
caonexHello, I have successfully installed ndiswrapper and uploaded the module. I see that it says module and hardware present. However when i type iwconfig it does not have any MACs even when i select one. What else am i missing or needs to be done?04:44
kebwhatis the topic04:44
nutatev3n0w: you could check the xorg logs04:44
N6REJthats the thing.... you should use whatever program/utility/look, makes you MOST effecient and comfortable.04:44
v3n0wnutate, how i do this?04:44
nutatev3n0w: in /var/log there should be a file Xorg.0.log or something04:45
nutatev3n0w: assuming you want the mouse to work in X win04:45
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calamarihi04:46
v3n0wnutate, oh yes... in the x....04:46
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N6REJok, one last q for now... partition the drive in what manner? and should I set any for fat32?04:46
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ztrikkerHi04:47
kkathmanHi :)04:47
naliothN6REJ: dont use ntfs at all04:47
N6REJnalioth: straight ext3 ?  or part fat32? or ?04:48
N6REJi'm going to give him breezy04:48
naliothN6REJ: if you're not running windows.. .. ..04:48
kebanyone know why ubuntu installer would fail to add the boot loader?04:48
N6REJk04:49
kebi've installed on 2 differetn drives  and both failed to boot second stage04:49
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N6REJback in a bit, gotta burn him his own copy of breezy04:49
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twystedkeb, bad cd or bad ram possibly04:50
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kebhmm04:50
kebthanks twysted04:50
kebso creating a /boot partition less than 1024 cylinders is not needed for IDE drives04:51
twystedyep04:51
twystedeh what?04:51
kebi had to do that for my SCSI system04:51
Jedrickwhat firewall that is good for linux04:51
twystedyou dont have to use a /boot partition by default ubunutu autoformats04:52
twystedjedrick, iptables :)04:52
kebok04:52
joe_so how do i access my realplayter after i've extracted it04:52
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naliothJedrick: by default you dont need one04:52
XenguyJedrick: shorewall04:52
Jedrickso it has built in firewall?04:52
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naliothJedrick: all linux have "iptables" which can be configured as firewall, router, etc04:53
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Jedrickok04:53
ztrikkerI have a question. If I want a launcher icon i made run when i startup gnome , is that possible?04:53
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naliothztrikker: system > preferences > sessions04:53
Jedrickhow bout good anti virus04:54
kebhaha04:54
twystedcalamari if its not working in windows or linux contact your isp04:54
kebno real viruses on linux04:54
DonPaulieoneanti virus for linux? linux IS anti virus :)04:54
ztrikkerthanks nalioth04:54
twystedhehehe04:54
calamaritwysted: the link light is on..04:54
Jedrickreally?.. thats kool04:54
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twystedcalamari yes but whats to say your isp isnt blocking you, if its not working in windows or linux contact your isp04:55
DonPaulieonejust dumped fedora, running horary and dist-upgrading to Breezy. oh how i love the power of Debin.  Awesome community ya people got here04:55
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calamarigood point :)04:55
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DonPaulieoneand i can't spell 2nite hehe04:55
XenguyJedrick: apt-get install shorewall04:55
XorgProblemhi room04:56
Jedrickok thnx04:56
calamariwell bbl.. dialup ;)04:56
naliothJedrick: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13004:56
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JedrickXenguy: i get this error E: Invalid operation shorewall04:56
XorgProblemIs there a way to mount partitions that exist on my HD, while I am running the live CD04:56
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Jedricki just upgraded to breezy and i think i change the source04:56
twystedjedrick sudo apt-get install shorewall04:56
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XenguyJedrick: sudo apt-get install shorewall04:57
Jedrickthere tnx :)04:57
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Jedrickhow to start the shorewall?04:58
naliothJedrick: open a terminal and type "man shorewall"04:58
Jedrickok04:58
naliothJedrick: there are other iptables configurators. i sent you a link04:58
Jedrickk04:58
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XenguyJedrick: you'll need to read the documentation very thoroughly and patiently - grab a coffee :-)04:59
Termin8torso whats going on then people?04:59
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XenguyJedrick: see the web site - good docs04:59
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Jedrickwhat is an NFS?04:59
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naliothJedrick: network file system04:59
regeyahoboy.05:00
jimjSo, I installed fluxbox and am using it for my windowmanager.  I still use gdm for login purposes.  It seems that gdm is not reading my ~/.xsession to start things like idesk and fbpanel.  Is this normal behavoir or is there something potentially obvious I am missing in getting my .xsession parsed by gdm?05:00
steelyn05:00
XenguyJedrick: you don't need it ;-)05:00
Jedrickok05:00
naliothXenguy: he just asked a question. you dont know his situation to guide him05:00
misfit_toyJedrick, are you looking for a firewall or what?05:00
Xenguynalioth: maybe my guess is a good one :-)05:01
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misfit_toyXenguy, assumptions can really hose up a system05:01
Xenguymisfit_toy: OK. What do you think NFS has to do with a firewall tho?05:02
zrotheWhat is the command to change the root password?05:02
naliothXenguy: Jedrick is a new user. how do you know why he is asking things?05:02
Xenguy!tell zrothe about root05:02
Xenguynalioth: I don't.05:02
Xenguynalioth: I took a guess, so sue me :P05:03
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Xenguypff05:03
twysted:)05:03
naliothXenguy: guesses, as misfit_toy pointed out can hose a box05:03
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Jedrickjus asking coz i just upgraded and says if not using nfs need to remove the map thingy05:03
JustStevehey sort of a quick question. i am running Hoary 386 with a custom kernel for high ram and auto UDMA, will apt-get'ing dist-upgrade cause me problems?05:03
Xenguynalioth: nonsense, in this case. Relax05:03
misfit_toyXenguy, a firewall can block NFS, what is your point?05:04
DonPaulieonewhere does the ubuntu update manager store it's repos, cause in my etc/apt/souce.list i have no reference to the Ubuntu CD-ROM, but while i'm dist-upgrading, keep getting errors loooking for the UBUNTU CD-ROM repo05:04
twystedJustSteve> it may replace your custom kernel05:04
Xenguymisfit_toy: he's not at that stage - get real05:04
naliothDonPaulieone: /var/cache/apt/archives05:04
DonPaulieonethank ya much05:04
regeyamaybe mauve has the most ram.05:04
apokryphosDonPaulieone: /etc/apt/sources.list is where the reference to the CD is made though05:05
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JustStevewell, i can recompile another on quickly. thinking about maybe downloading RC1 for x6405:05
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twystedJustSteve, id wait it should be final this month05:05
kebis ubuntu suitable for use as a windows workgroup server?05:05
regeyano more or no less suitable than any othre system that can run samba, keb05:06
misfit_toyXenguy, comments like "get real" certainly show your immaturity and lack of experience, you should look out for that, it might come back to bite you some day.05:06
JustStevei thought Breezy goes live next week?05:06
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steelythe 13th?05:06
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Hobbseeyeah, 13/1005:06
twystedxenguy/misfit_toy quit bickering and just help em dont assume shit just get it going :)05:07
kebthanks regeya .  there just seems to be a fewer system daemon gui management tools around than for say SuSE05:07
trekremor 10/13 for us stupid americans ;)05:07
ztrikkerI thought the calendar showed it coming out on the 14th?05:07
twysted13th or 14th05:07
Xenguytwysted: I think we're good now05:07
misfit_toytwysted, I asked questions and got no answers to help with, so beh, whutevuh! ;)05:07
regeyai was being totally serious, keb. :-)05:08
Xenguymisfit_toy: I don't think you know me at all, so let's agree to back off one another, K?05:08
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kebi wish i didnt either05:08
caonexanybody with ndiswrapper and wireless?05:08
dennishFolks Thanks for the help. see ya tomorrow with some more questions about Ubuntu.05:08
misfit_toyXenguy, I have no issue with you at all.05:08
kebi'm trying to wean people off windows and move to linux05:08
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steelygood luck05:09
defaulthey everyone!05:09
Xenguymisfit_toy: then be quiet before I get pissed off, K? :-)05:09
steelyhahahaha05:09
regeyaI'm tempted to go with netatalk at work, and am reluctant to.  we have several hundred gigs of data, hfsplus and netatalk don't talk the ame lingo, and transferring several hundred gigs of data over appletalk sucks.05:09
steelya fight05:09
regeyarpff;ecp[ters/05:09
regeyarofflecopters even05:09
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misfit_toyXenguy, you keep coming back with lines like that and then I'll get pissed, K?05:09
XorgProblemhi all05:10
defaultcan someone help with with a small problem? breezy boots but stops at a blank screen after every loads05:10
regeyahere's hoping Xenguy and misfit_toy can grow up or take it elsewhere.05:10
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JustStevei will shoot down roflcopters with an AFK-4705:10
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joe_i need more help with realplayer05:10
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regeyalol JustSteve05:10
ztrikkerWhy would you use appletalk?05:10
twystedJustSteve> can i watch? lol05:10
Xenguymisfit_toy: you started it, so now you can just suck it up - why should I take it from you, huh?05:10
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joe_can anyone help a guy out?05:10
twystedXenguy, misfit_toy stop talking to another05:10
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regeyayay05:10
Termin8torI completely randomly and for no good reason what-so-ever demand free beer!05:11
Xenguytwysted: see, I think we're good now ;-)05:11
Hobbseejoe_: dont ask to ask, just ask05:11
kebjoe_ what is the problem exactly, describe what you did and what is happening05:11
XorgProblemI've got a prob with upgrading Hoary to Breezy, and the more I look at it the more confused I am05:11
joe_well i have the realplayer folder on mydesktop extracted an deverything, but i dont know what to do next05:12
apokryphosXorgProblem: no-one can help if you don't state the actual problem :)05:12
XorgProblemSure. Sorry.05:12
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regeyamy greater wish is that appletalk wasn't even an issue, and that those stupidass resource forks weren't an issue either, or at least that if I had to keep adminning macs running os9, that the osx samba build and, um, wuzzitcalled, 'dave' handled resource forks the same.05:12
XorgProblemI did an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade from Hoary05:13
XorgProblemThere was a problem with running out of space on /usr05:13
apokryphos:/05:13
XorgProblemAfter repeated apt-get -f dist-upgrade it completed05:13
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XorgProblem(I don't know how it did that)05:13
kebjoe_ there is probably an installer that has to be run in that realplayer folder on your desktop05:13
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steelyis anyone successfully using k3b to burn dvds?05:14
naliothsteely: yes i do it all the time05:14
XorgProblemIt won't load the graphical interface, though if I type startx X loads - just the mouse pointer and the crosshatched gray screen05:14
apokryphosall the time05:14
kebsteely yes me too05:14
steelyi am getting iso errors05:14
XorgProblemAnd it still identifies itself as Hoary05:14
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XorgProblemI'm not sure what to do05:14
steelyi/o errors.05:14
steelyhehe05:14
steelyright as the burn begins05:14
apokryphosXorgProblem: are you sure your sources were entirely changed and that you had ubuntu-desktop before you upgraded?05:15
XorgProblemI'm running from a LiveCD of Hoary now. Have data I need to keep safe on my /home05:15
regeyasteely: all the time here as well, no problems.  dunno what to tell you.05:15
XorgProblemSources were changed. Tell me about ubuntu-desktop05:15
joe_keb when i run apt-get install realplayer it starts up an installer05:15
dmabowenI am tring to save a image in GIMP and it tells me that I do not have premission to save file? What do I do?05:15
XorgProblemI'm not sure on that apokryphos05:15
kebjoe_ thats great05:15
joe_biut i don;t kno where to point it05:15
apokryphosdmabowen: save in a different location05:15
steelyas i try to burn an image very early it bugs out with the i/o message05:15
nomasteryoda|wfunny... listening to TheLinuxLink.net show from 9-28-2005 while working on Ubuntu... hearing Ubuntu sounds and confusing me.... LOL05:15
misfit_toydmabowen, you are trying to save it somewhere that you don't have rights to, pick another folder05:15
nomasteryoda|wthey were using Ubuntu05:16
apokryphosXorgProblem: could you pastebin your current /etc/apt/sources.list and the output of dpkg -l|grep ubuntu-desktop05:16
dmabowenHow do I gain rights to my own hard drive?  I cant even create a directory05:16
XorgProblemapokryphos, the problem is getting to it.05:16
XorgProblemI would need to mount my HD while running from Live CD, I think, apokryphos05:17
Hobbseedmabowen: where are you trying to create a directory?05:17
apokryphosXorgProblem: sure; go for it.05:17
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dmabowenI have tried in the main, under Home, inder USR..05:17
SuperTails92dmabowen: open a terminal and type "cd /home && ls -l"05:17
zdennishow do i view detailed information on a package that is not installed, with apt-cache?05:17
apokryphosXorgProblem: though I generally prefer a simple console when I have X problems :P05:17
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apokryphoszdennis: man apt-cache05:17
kebjoe_ it is likely in /home/joe_/Desktop/realplayer05:17
SuperTails92and tell up what comes out05:17
XorgProblemWell ... right now no access to the HD, unless I can figure out what mount point to use. I'm a Linux newbie, I'm afraid05:18
kebjoe_ or whatever the name of the folder is05:18
joe_keb ive tried pointing there and no luck05:18
zrotheI'm trying to install the nvidia drivers using this (http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver) guide, but it's not working...the repositories have problems it seems.05:18
Xenguyzdennis: apt-cache show pkgname05:18
zdennisthx Xenguy and apokryphos05:18
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apokryphosXorgProblem: I've gotta go in a sec, so can't really explain mounting etc now unfortunately :/05:18
Xenguyzdennis: yw05:18
kebjoe_ did you try /home/joe_/Desktop05:19
XorgProblemS'okay.05:19
XorgProblemI'm guessing that I would umount /home and mount /dev/hd01 (or whatever) as /home ... ?05:19
apokryphosXorgProblem: but what I recommend you do: check your /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure you don't have any nonsense like hoary-extras etc enabled there05:19
dmabowenWould that show it up on my Desktop?  I do not want all the files I edit to be stuck on my desktop05:19
XorgProblemCan do.05:19
apokryphosXorgProblem: then (i) sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop; (ii) sudo aptitude dist-upgrade05:19
SuperTails92Hmm, hoary backports fail on aptitude update with a 404 error.05:19
rob_pdmabowen:  You will have read/write access to your home dir.  You can get there by doing, "cd" at the prompt.05:20
naliothubotu: tell SuperTails92 about backports05:20
apokryphosSuperTails92: what url?05:20
naliothapokryphos: the old and still prevalent mirrormax URL is still causing trouble05:20
XorgProblemI took the sources.list directly from ubuntuforums.org, from the FAQ05:20
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synackuatorhow would one hide their ip address in irc05:21
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apokryphosXorgProblem: no idea what that one has.. if you /msg ubotu upgrade2breezy you'll get good advice05:21
kebsynackuator get and run Tor05:21
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naliothsynackuator: but you wont come in here running tor05:21
synackuatorkeb: isn't there a way to do it w/ out proxying?05:21
zdennishow can i get a printout of what system i am running?05:21
zdennisuname -a doesn't tell me what i want05:21
kebnalioth i am running Tor ;) but you can't tell05:21
naliothzeedo: try lsb_release -a05:22
apokryphoszdennis: system? Operating system?05:22
naliothkeb: how nice for you05:22
kebsynackuator the other way is to get a cloak with freenode05:22
zdennisapokryphos, i want to see what version of Debian I am running on another box05:22
zdennisit has been so long since i installed05:22
SuperTails92Ah, it was actually hoary-extras that was causing the 404s05:22
apokryphoszdennis: cat /etc/issue05:22
zdennisthx apokryphos05:22
naliothzdennis: the lsb_release -a will tell you05:22
apokryphosthat too05:22
Xenguyzdennis: /etc/issue ?05:22
synackuatorkeb: how do you get a cloajk05:22
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kevogodDonate to Freenode05:22
kevogodsynackuator,05:22
kevogodThat is how.05:22
naliothapokryphos: what is the matter with lsb_release -a ?05:22
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apokryphosnalioth: nothing, of course05:23
kebsynackuator search the freenode FAQ on cloaks05:23
zdennisi dont have lsb_release as a command05:23
zdennis=(05:23
kebor donate yeah05:23
zdenniscat /etc/issue worked good05:23
zdennisthx05:23
synackuatorkeb: thx05:23
apokryphos...or something, apparently :P. Nevermind; /me -> out05:23
kebbut that won't work on other ic networks05:23
naliothi dont appreciate comments about my mother05:24
keb:o05:24
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regeyao_O05:24
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kebnalioth is your mother named "cat"05:26
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war-totemcan someone quickly tell me how to install a .deb, ive forgotten05:27
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Hobbseesudo dpkg -i nameofdeb.deb05:27
Hobbseecd to the directory it's in first05:27
war-totemah, thank you05:27
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Hobbseeno problem05:27
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StricklinOkay.. stock install of Breezy... followed the instructions at http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb... still get "Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:28
StricklinThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:28
Stricklin is only available from another source05:28
Stricklin"05:28
Stricklinoops, sorry05:28
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heartEyeHow do I close vi?05:29
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keb:wq05:29
Xenguyor ZZ05:29
Xenguyor :q05:29
Xenguyor :q!05:29
Xenguy;-)05:29
misfit_toyheartEye, depends on if you want to save or not05:29
kebor hit the power button05:29
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Xenguyhaha05:29
HobbseeStricklin: havent checked today, but as of yesterday, the debs were only from july, and not the 2 most updated versions05:30
misfit_toyheartEye, to quit without saving ":q"05:30
Hobbseelol @ keb05:30
joe_keb what is an unmet dependency?05:30
heartEyeThanks b05:30
misfit_toyheartEye, to save and exit ":x"05:30
heartEyeThanks bye.05:30
heartEyeWait.05:30
Hobbsee!dependency05:30
ubotuHobbsee: What?05:30
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heartEyeColon X?05:30
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kebjoe_ something is missing to run realplayer05:30
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kebjoe_ does it say what the dependency was05:30
misfit_toyheartEye, yes, that's to SAVE and exit05:30
XenguyheartEye: or ZZ does the same05:30
ubuntu_How do I mount my windows partition in the terimal through the ubuntu live CD?05:31
StricklinHobbsee, not sure I follow you05:31
DonPaulieonesince i edited source.list with breeze, come oct 13 i just do another update and dist-upgrade to get Breezer FINAL, right?05:31
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naliothDonPaulieone: your machine should be keeping itself and you up to date daily05:31
misfit_toylol "Breezer" good name for a distro!05:31
joe_keb libc605:31
heartEyeHow do I do this while I'm typing?05:31
DonPaulieoneah yeah forgot bout that nalioth, thanks for the reminder05:32
ubuntu_How do I mount my windows partition in the terimal through the ubuntu live CD?05:32
kebheartEye hit Escape first05:32
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misfit_toyheartEye, hit ESC when you're ready to bail05:32
johnny_Hey Ubuntu users.  Can someone explain how to use the repository and how to get software packages for things like printers?05:32
ubuntu_How do I mount my windows partition in the terimal through the ubuntu live CD?05:32
naliothubotu: tell ubuntu_ about repeat05:32
kebjoe_ it sounds like you downloaded the wrong version of realplayer05:32
XenguyheartEye: pat your head and rub you stomach in a circular fashion, all at the same time :-)05:32
zrotheDoes anyone know of a repository that has  the ntfs module on it?05:32
joe_oh05:32
naliothubotu: quit repeating. read your uboto priv msg05:32
ubotuNo idea, nalioth05:32
joe_but i did apt-get05:32
bytefoodudes why does my resolution only go to 1024x768, even though the only modelines in xorg.conf are 1280x800 :/05:32
ubuntu_How do I mount my windows partition in the terimal through the ubuntu live CD?05:32
naliothubuntu_: quit repeating. read your uboto priv msg05:32
HobbseeStricklin: see here: http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/ there's no more updated versions than the 20050725, ie the july one05:33
delltonyhttp://www.imageark.net/img.php?id=132342 can someone look at that image and maybe help me figure out what program the volume dialog belongs too i thought it was kmix but every time i kill kmix this thiing doesn't go away and its really annoying cause it keeps focus.05:33
StricklinSo, what should I do?05:33
heartEyeOh wow, 500 people.05:33
bytefoo:|05:33
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joe_but i did apt-cache search realplayer; apt-get install realplayer05:33
naliothubuntu_: if somebody knows the answer to your ??, they'll answer.05:33
HobbseeStricklin: guess you'd have to either tell them about it, or compile from source05:33
twystedubot tell joe_ about restrictedformats05:34
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samson666How do I mount my windows partition in the terimal through the ubuntu live CD?05:34
vladuz976is there a ubuntu book? i mean there are tons of fedora books, i just haven't seen any ubuntu ones05:34
joe_don;t you need the !tell?05:34
DonPaulieoneomg chill with the repeating05:34
samson666HOW THE FUCK DO I DO IT THEN05:34
samson666!?!?!??!?!05:35
ubotusamson666: Are you on ritalin?05:35
joe_it should do it auto05:35
joe_sam05:35
delltonydude i was gonna help you but now i'm not05:35
lancellorHelp !!!!!!!!!!  hey guys i just turn my computer on nad i got resolution of 640 for 480  i have nvidia drivers installed05:35
Hobbseesamson666: language.05:35
samson666i have a fucked up live distro05:35
naliothsamson666: there is nobody here that knows the answer to your question atm05:35
naliothsamson666: watch your language please05:35
samson666FUCK YA MAMA HOE!05:35
delltonyno you have a really bad attitude honestly05:35
twystedsamson666> if your not going to be civil we will not help you05:35
Daveyyay :)05:35
Agrajagoh that's a good way to get help05:35
joe_jeez05:35
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Hobbseesamson666: http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ch05.html to answer your question05:35
nomasteryoda|wso do we have an admin here?05:35
zrotheDoes anyone know of a repository that has  the ntfs module on it?05:35
Daveytheres some who's ass needs a paddling05:35
ztrikkerhow do i check what partitions are available for mounting?05:35
StricklinI don't suppose Jeremy Whit is here, is he?05:35
nomasteryoda|wfdisk -l05:35
nomasteryoda|wthat will list them05:36
StricklinWhite, that is05:36
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nomasteryoda|wthanks nalioth05:36
nomasteryoda|wcafuego, heya05:36
cafuego_ugh05:36
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DonPaulieonek dist-upgrade done, going down for reboot. wish me luck. i'll brb05:36
delltonypacbell ? is packard bell stil in existance? i thought they went under05:36
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zrotheanyone?05:36
twysteddelltony, pacific bell05:36
delltonyoh05:37
PrimoTurboIs there a guide on how to install all the codecs?05:37
hondjepackard bell is still around, well the brand is05:37
ztrikkertnkx05:37
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delltonyfixing to say that was the worst computer system known to man05:37
PrimoTurboAre there any good guides for ubuntu?05:37
hondjethough it's really just rebranded NEC05:37
PrimoTurbohow to install programs and such05:37
naliothdelltony: and you're wasting your breath saying that much05:37
delltonytrue :)05:37
naliothPrimoTurbo: see wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation05:37
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delltonyupgrading that thing was like converting a microwave into a freezer05:38
XenguyPrimoTurbo: my first try is usually a google for 'KEYWORD tutorial'05:38
XenguyPrimoTurbo: heh, or what nalioth said05:38
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joe_anyone have a good easy media player they can recommend? real player is a pita05:38
naliothubotu: tell PrimoTurbo about cli05:38
naliothubotu: tell PrimoTurbo about apt-get05:38
twystedjoe_ mplayer05:38
delltonydang this dialog is freakin annoying grrrrrrrrrrrrrr05:38
naliothubotu: tell PrimoTurbo about synaptic05:39
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naliothPrimoTurbo: that should get you started05:39
joe_twysted, i can 't get it to workright05:39
Xenguyubotu: botsnack05:39
ubotuthanks xenguy :)05:39
PrimoTurboThnx05:39
misfit_toyin case anyone is interested in 72.6MB of xmms skins (that will also work with beep/bmp player)...http://easylinuxguide.com/downloads/xmms-skins/05:39
PrimoTurboIs there a way to check if you have java running05:39
PrimoTurboand is there a way to check if your 3d drivers work05:39
joe_twysted, i dl'ed it and installed but everytime i go to a "website" to use it, i wait for days while it buffers05:39
naliothPrimoTurbo: in a terminal, type "java --version"05:39
kebPrimoTurbo glxgears05:40
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PrimoTurbothnx05:40
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delltonyprimo go to google and do a java test in there and it will show you the test page05:40
anethemaglxgears doesnt work for me anymore05:40
twystedjoe_ did you install the mozilla mplayer plugin05:40
trekremor if you mean running right now 'top'05:40
anethemadoesnt report fps05:40
anethemasince breezy05:40
tylerdurdenhey how do people make their terminals transparent?05:40
delltonythats how i test mine its lie sun's java test page or something like that05:40
PrimoTurbogood I have java05:40
joe_twysted, yes i believe i did05:40
jeff_Can anyone give some advice on tweaking the anticipatory io scheduler to increase performance on a laptop?05:40
SuperTails92Any particular reason why aptitude wants to uninstall every single package I personally installed?05:40
tylerdurdenhey how do people make their terminals transparent?05:40
PrimoTurboglgears are running crappy I guess 3d doesn't work yet05:40
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Xenguytylerdurden: 'repeating' is considered rude actually05:41
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anethemaPrimoTurbo, to find out forsure, just do a: glxinfo | grep vendor05:41
jeff_tylerdurden, install aterm and then google for how to make aterm transparent05:41
anethemaif the vendor is mesa, its not working yet05:41
tylerdurdensorry im trying to get people to notice me since a lot of people are talking at once05:41
anethemaheh05:41
naliothtylerdurden: we see you05:41
anethematylerdurden, its fake anyways05:41
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joe_that's ascary nalioth ll05:42
trekremyeah it's not real05:42
joe_lol05:42
tylerdurdenwhat do u mean not real05:42
PrimoTurboyeah some SGI05:42
HrdwrBobtylerdurden: edit, current profile, effects, transparent background05:42
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DonPaulieonelol i lost the Terminal Icon under Sytem Tools, and only got an apple mouse, so no right click (too lazy to dig thru spare parts)05:42
anethemait just shows your background picture thru the terminal window05:42
PrimoTurboneed to get ATI drivers working now :/05:42
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anethemano icons, no other windows, nothing05:42
anethemaits just a cheap hack05:42
HrdwrBobanethema: but it looks cool05:42
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naliothDonPaulieone: use F1205:42
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anethemaheh yeah looks cool if the term is all you have on that desktop05:42
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SuperTails92anethema: what if the server and client glx vendor strings are "SGI" yet the OpenGL vendor strings are Mesa05:43
anethemanot working.05:43
anethemasubterrific,05:43
anethemaer05:43
anethemaSuperTails92,05:43
anethemahehe05:43
lancellorhello guys i just turn my computer on and i got 640 * 480 resolution whats is going on05:43
DonPaulieonenalioth: doesn't seem towork for me i tried that, i just jumped into a Virtual console for now05:43
SuperTails92k05:43
bytefoowhy won't my default resolution work :|05:43
anethemaopengl vendor string has to be ati/nvidia05:43
naliothubotu: tell lancellor about fixres05:43
anethemaoh btw, breezy's new rez tool actually works, i love that05:43
anethemaheh05:43
naliothubotu: tell bytefoo about fixres05:43
tylerdurdenok now, i installed ut2k4, it worked fine but then i restarted my computer and it just wouldnt work anymore, theres a splash screen for a second and then its gone and nothing happens05:43
anethemahoary i couldnt change my res except with ctrl-alt-+05:44
bytefoothanks nalioth05:44
zrothewhat is the fglrx command for nvidia?05:44
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lancellorwhat is fix res05:44
twystedtylerdurden try patching ut2k4 with the most current patch, itll fix it05:44
naliothlancellor: see you priv msg from ubotu05:44
tylerdurdenoh there r linux specific patches? i thought they were only for windows. ok thanks05:44
anethemano there are linux patches05:44
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twystedthere are too linux patches05:45
twystedgo to the UT site05:45
anethemathats what i said05:45
anethemahehe05:45
twystedand there are offical linux patches05:45
anethemathere are certainly linux patches05:45
twystedoops05:45
twysted:P05:45
lancellorsorry thanks let me check   thanks05:45
twystedi misread anethema :S05:45
anethemasok :D05:45
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delltonyis there any command in the terminal i can type that will tell me a process id if i put my mouse over a dialog box?05:46
anethemagood ole #ubuntu05:46
anethemaofficially the most helpful linux channel ever05:46
anethemayou guys every try to get help in #linuxhelp on efnet?05:46
anethemajesus05:46
anethemahaha05:46
satafterhI have ubuntu and kubuntu installed. is there any way I can set them up so that there menu's do not so programs of the other, menu is getting cluttered05:46
naliothubotu: tell satafterh about smeg05:47
tylerdurdenumm ok to the next thing lol, i feel like linux is very choppy, i mean lets say i open a new tab in firefox, the computer barely moves for a few seconds, its not like that in windows, why is that05:47
delltonyanethema, you have to be so called l33t to get help there which i think is bs05:47
anethemayeah05:47
twystedtylerdurden its a firefox issue05:47
HrdwrBobsatafterh: you could do it manually, but that would be a giant pain05:47
anethemaif you havent already read every doc on the part and know it in and out, and basically dont need help, THEN you can get help05:47
HrdwrBobsatafterh: in general it's intended that you pick one05:47
tylerdurdenwell ubuntu by itself is very slow when it comes to opening menus aswell05:47
anethemamy Firefox doesnt do that at all.05:47
anethemamenus and firefox are both near instant05:48
anethemafirefox without TBE installed IS instant05:48
anethemaso it could be another issue05:48
HrdwrBobtylerdurden: what video card, how much ram05:48
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tylerdurdenits as if im running on vega instead of an actuall 3d even though i have the ati drivers installed05:48
satafterhyes i know i just like to try them both out to see which one suits me best05:48
PrimoTurboHow do I install ati drivers on breezy?05:48
tylerdurdeni have a radeon 9200 128mb and 768 ram05:48
HrdwrBob!ati05:48
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx05:48
anethema!faq05:48
ubotuhmm... faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/05:48
PrimoTurboI found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI05:48
anethemahttp://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ has better info05:48
anethemaclick hardware, then ATI05:48
PrimoTurbobut it says ati is already on breezy?05:48
anethemamuch easier process05:48
anethemaPrimoTurbo, try that faq :)05:49
PrimoTurboalso how do I remove a package by apt-get?05:49
anethemaapt-get remove <pkg>05:49
hondjeadd --purge to get rid of conf files05:49
satafterhif i uninstall kubuntu or ubuntu is there a way to unistall every part of desktop and software they install with out messing up the other05:49
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anethemayeah05:49
tylerdurdeni mean opening a single menu in ubuntu, it takes a few seconds for all the icons to load05:49
anethemadoh05:49
tylerdurdenshouldnt they remain in the memory already?05:49
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anethemavid card drivers installed properly?05:50
darius___Can I upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 with the installation CD or do I need to use update online?05:50
tylerdurdenme? yes05:50
anethemahow much ram?05:50
tylerdurdenme again? 76805:50
anethemayes you and doh05:50
anethemaheh05:50
naliothdarius___: it's easier to do it over the network05:50
anethemai dunno05:50
naliothdarius___: but you can upgrade from the cd, if you wish05:50
anethemathis doesnt help you i know, but my menus and icons are instant in gnome05:50
anethemaand firefox is close05:50
tylerdurdensee? thats weird05:50
darius___nalioth: I already have the CD - is it still easier over network?05:50
anethemadarius___,05:50
anethemajust add the cd to your repos05:50
naliothdarius___: yes, the pkgs are updated daily there05:50
tylerdurdeni think it might be my harddrive, its a little old and i dont want to use the new hard drive because windows is isntalled on it and im not going to give up on windows just yet05:51
anethemathen if it can be installed from the cd it will05:51
tylerdurdencould that be it?05:51
anethemaif not....it will dl it05:51
anethemamuch faster if you have the cd05:51
anethemawont dl unneccesary sh1t05:51
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anethemai doubt it tylerdurden but who knows05:51
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naliothanethema: no barnyard talk in here please05:51
tylerdurdenthats weird, since it was like this with ALL linuxs05:51
anethemashiz ok?05:51
anethemaheheh05:51
darius___anethema: I will need to add the breezy sources to package management?05:52
anethemayes05:52
anethemachange all instances of hoary to breezy in your sources.list05:52
naliothubotu: tell darius___ about upgrade2breezy05:52
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anethemathen add the cd05:52
kebtylerdurden did you allow for creating a swap partition when you installed?05:52
ztrikker_Whats the best bit torrent client for linux?05:52
tylerdurdeni dont think so05:52
tylerdurdeni just told it to format my harddrive and install it on it05:52
jimjHi, I installed fluxbox and am using it for my windowmanager.  I still use gdm for login purposes.  It seems that gdm is not reading my ~/.xsession to start things like idesk and fbpanel.  Is this normal behavoir or is there something potentially obvious I am missing in getting my .xsession parsed by gdm?05:52
naliothztrikker_: there are several available. use all of them, keep what you like05:52
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tylerdurdenztrikker_ i find azeurus (spelling) the best05:53
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SuperTails92IMO, I prefer bittornado-gui, but whatever...05:53
thechrisanyone know how to set up autologin in ubuntu?05:53
nigehow do i setup a fqdn in linux?05:53
anethemayeah a second for azureus05:53
anethemawicked program05:53
anethemaeven if it is java based05:53
anethemaheh05:53
twystedi like Azureus05:53
mhzanyone with hands-on experience in netbooting via TFTP ??05:54
HrdwrBobazureus needs java and uses ram like a mofo05:54
HrdwrBobaside from that it's good05:54
tylerdurdenso whats a swap partition?05:54
twystedit doesnt use ram like a mofo on my ubuntu system05:54
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SuperTails92thechris: system->administration->login screen setup05:54
anethemaSystem -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup05:54
anethemayes05:54
anethemaheh05:54
anethemain the general tab05:54
thechrisSuperTails92, thanks05:54
anethemaautomatic login05:54
HrdwrBobtwysted: if you open more and larger torrents it does05:54
anethemayou quick bugger SuperTails92 :D05:54
thechrisdon't suppose anyone knows anything about scanners.  maybe it'll just work05:54
anethemait uses a ton of ram on mine05:55
anethemadoh05:55
twystedi have a 38 gb torrent going right now and a few smaller ones, works fine :)05:55
SuperTails92Meh, I'm accursed with dialup, and downloading the 12mb JRE is slightly too much..05:55
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kebtylerdurden a swap partition is needed when there are large apps like firefox, the system swaps them out when running other things05:55
anethemaheh maybe torrenting isnt for you ;)05:55
anethemayes05:55
Ramahouch05:55
anethemaeven with 10 gigs of ram i'd have a swap05:55
HrdwrBobSuperTails92: if you have dialup, there's no need for torrents in any case :)05:55
thechrisSuperTails92, I tried that and gdmconfig exits with status 7705:55
HrdwrBobtwysted: of course it WORKS05:55
nigehow do i setup a fqdn hostname?05:56
thechrisseems it worked anyways05:56
HrdwrBob10138 matt      20   5  516m 176m  10m S  8.6 17.5 560:51.62 java05:56
RamahI'm on dsl (used to have cable) it feels really slow to me only 90kbps d/l and 12k up.. its inhuman05:56
HrdwrBob176mb ram,  that's a damn lot05:56
joe_twysted,  i dl'ed and installed mozilla mplayer, and it sort of works then the site gets to about 27% buffer andjust stops05:56
naliothnige: ask your network administrator05:57
twystedi dont know what to say then joe_ i dont do much graphically with ubuntu05:57
SuperTails92thechris: try again05:57
joe_mkay05:57
naliothjoe_: it's easier to d/l the content onto your drive and play it there05:57
anethemayeah05:57
anethemai hate streaming05:57
anethemahaha05:57
kebi download stuff and then use the command line mplayer for videos.  my mplayer was compiled from source05:57
thechrisSuperTails92, it seems it made the changes, just gave an error on the exit.05:58
anethemai use gmplayer, but it will works05:58
anethemaheh05:58
joe_explain a little pls nalioth?05:58
ztrikker_Im using Azureus now but i notice that on some torrents azureus doesnt see anyont but bittorrent or bittorando on windows does...05:58
SuperTails92Okay, then log out and back in for your autologin!05:58
joe_keb could you give me the command line ?05:58
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naliothjoe_: download your movies, audio, etc to your hard drive. use mplayer, totem, vlc or whatever to play the content from your drive05:58
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anethemayou gotta look in the page source usually05:59
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kebjoe_ mplayer xxx.wmv  ;)05:59
anethemalook for the apropriate movie file05:59
anethemaand dl it05:59
userubuntuAlguem fala portugues?05:59
nalioth!pt05:59
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.05:59
thechriskeb, xxx.wmv...  how accurate.  even guesse the filename05:59
anethemano yo userubuntu :)05:59
kebahha05:59
joe_yty06:00
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hectorhi06:01
thechrisAnyone Know of any good software for making greeting cards06:01
SuperTails92thechris: I'd use OpenOffice.Org Draw or Inkscape.06:02
SuperTails92But that's just me.06:02
anethemawho owns the name rights to openoffice anyways?06:02
kebi'd use my hand and some coloured pens06:02
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TylerDurdenhey guys how come I cant paste some files in my ut2k4 folder? it says i dont have permission although im sudo06:03
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thechrislooking into inkscape06:03
anethemause sudo to change the permissions06:03
anethemahehe06:03
TylerDurdenhow come i need to do that for every folder?06:04
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Termin8torI don't use ubuntu yet, but sudo is just like switching to root right?06:04
anethemaevery folder?06:04
anethemadunno06:04
TylerDurdenumm ok, well how can i make sure io actually sudo?06:04
SuperTails92thechris: I prefer OOo Draw myself, but openoffice is too large for my connection06:04
TylerDurdenbtw im not using the terminal06:04
anethemaoh06:04
anethemawho knows then06:04
anethemause the terminal06:04
anethemahehe06:04
PrimoTurboHey guys how come I don't see any fps output for glxgears?06:04
SuperTails92TylerDurden: use gksudo06:04
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PrimoTurbounder breezy any idea?06:04
TylerDurdenwell in users and groups i set myself to sudo06:04
anethemaim just beeing a jerk sorry heheh, i dont know how to use it except the terminal06:04
kebPrimoTurbo  it takes a while06:04
kebPrimoTurbo  did you launch it from a terminal?06:05
TylerDurdenwhats gksudo?06:05
PrimoTurboyes06:05
anethemakeb i dont see it either06:05
naliothPrimoTurbo: hoary or breezy?06:05
anethemaive left it running a long time06:05
PrimoTurbobreezy06:05
anethemano fps output06:05
anethemanot in breezy06:05
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PrimoTurboyes same here06:05
keboh it works in hoary06:05
anethemayep06:05
anethemaworks fine06:05
anethemahehe06:05
anethemain breezy the gears spin super slow in comparison and you dont see a fps output06:05
kebtoo bad you cant do "setver hoary" :P06:05
anethemaPrimoTurbo, try fgl_glxgears06:05
TylerDurdenanthema so what can i do to make sure im sudo/root?06:05
anethemaTylerDurden, in the console06:06
anethemado a sudo -s06:06
v3n0wPlease can anyone help me to configure grub to boot a windowns on hdb2? I know how to edit the grub, but what i put in?06:06
anethemaand if you get a hash prompt, you're root06:06
TylerDurdenit doesnt ask me for a password whever i try to access soemthing important, that means im sudo right?06:06
naliothwhats the breezy glxgears command with the 'this is not a benchmark' line?06:06
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PrimoTurbospins fast but no fps output06:06
anethemaonly if you set sudo up that way06:06
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PrimoTurbofor fgl_glxgears06:06
anethemaweird06:06
TylerDurdenwell i rather not use terminal06:06
anethemai get a fps output in the terminal06:06
ztrikkerglgears -iknowthisisnotabenchmark06:06
TylerDurdenits kinda old, reminds me of ms dos06:06
anethemarunning fgl_glxgears06:06
ztrikkerglxgears -iknowthisisnotabenchmark06:07
naliothPrimoTurbo: see above ^^^06:07
ztrikker<---cant type06:07
TylerDurdenand i dont even know how to copy something and paste something iso i just rather do it with a gui06:07
GoClickIn installed apache (1.3.33) and libapache-mod-php4 and restarted the system and it keeps trying to send me the php file rather than parse it. Also the server's Server header is "Apache/1.3.33 (Debian GNU/Linux)"06:07
anethemait is infinitly more powerful than dos06:07
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PrimoTurboWarrning: unknown parameter: -iknowthisisnotabenchmark06:07
TylerDurdenheh but its still all commands which i dont like06:07
anethemato copy directories in the console06:07
v3n0wPlease can anyone help me to configure grub to boot a windowns on hdb2? I know how to edit the grub, but what i put in?06:07
anethemause cp -r06:08
naliothPrimoTurbo: use two --06:08
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PrimoTurbonope06:08
anethemaheh i dont think that is the command06:08
TylerDurdenwhat do i put after the -r?06:08
PrimoTurboyes I saw the post on it on google06:08
PrimoTurbosome it having a joke06:08
GoClickSomeone once said "The CLI is the GUI what English is to Hieroglyphics"06:09
kebmaybe you can recompile glxgears from source?06:09
PrimoTurbobah this is bad they removed the damn fps06:09
PrimoTurbotoo much work06:09
anethemafrom the console run fgl_glxgears06:09
naliothPrimoTurbo: you can see the fps, i just dont know the exact command06:09
anethemashould see fps06:09
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Lord_Maynothso how exactly is add/remove programs in breezy different from hoary??????????????????????????????06:10
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TylerDurdeni dont see fps either and with that iacnknowledgeblahblah command my computer freezes06:10
v3n0wIm using a V92 0.44C modem, what i can do, to do work the modem??06:10
naliothanethema: is fgl_glxgears a common program or limited to ati?06:10
GoClickAnyone know why PHP isn't working?06:10
zrotheHey guys.. I am getting some machine noises through my speakers... can someone help me pinpoint what it is? It sounds like an okidata printer.06:10
anethemauhh not sure but i believe it may be ati06:10
anethemainstalled a long time ago06:10
ztrikkerok i just found it , sorry about that....   glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark06:10
anethemayeah its gotta be ati06:10
anethemanever even though06:10
naliothPrimoTurbo: there ya go06:10
anethemahey06:11
anethemaworking06:11
anethemahow about that06:11
anethemaehhe06:11
v3n0wPlease can anyone help me to configure grub to boot a windowns on hdb2? I know how to edit the grub, but what i put in?06:11
zrotheanyone?06:11
anethemawhoa06:11
anethemaover 600006:11
anethemathat is over double what i got with hoary06:11
anethemahahah06:11
PrimoTurboworks now06:11
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anethemanew ati driver06:11
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TylerDurdenugh im getting 120806:11
PrimoTurbo3400 here but i'm updating06:11
ztrikkerI get 450006:11
TylerDurdenhow come mine is so low?!06:11
ztrikkerwhat card do you ahve?06:11
ztrikkerhave06:11
TylerDurdenradeon 920006:11
Dr_Willisit needs viagra06:11
Dr_Willis:P06:11
anethemathats why06:11
anethemahahah06:11
anethema9200 is a very low end card.06:12
PrimoTurbo32500 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6499.928 FPS06:12
PrimoTurbo21355 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4270.611 FPS06:12
PrimoTurbo21011 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4202.117 FPS06:12
ztrikkeryeah im on a 9800 pro06:12
PrimoTurbo9700 Pro here06:12
TylerDurdenoh i expected about 3000 at least06:12
PrimoTurbowhy is it going up and down so much06:12
naliothPrimoTurbo: dont paste in here06:12
PrimoTurbomy bad06:12
anethemaPrimoTurbo,06:12
PrimoTurboyes06:12
anethemafocus on the window06:12
anethemait will stabilize06:12
Dr_Williscover the window with another window.. :P and watch it raise06:12
anethemaits because its not visible, fps goes up06:12
ztrikkerand glxgears isnt a real good benchmark...gamewise that is06:12
anethemadefinitely not06:12
SuseUXget a desent card like a nvidia one :-)06:12
anethemajust a good indicator if 3d stuff is working or not06:12
PrimoTurboi see now06:13
PrimoTurbogetting 400006:13
PrimoTurboaround there06:13
TylerDurdenso guys can someone tell me how to paste something in a folder that says i dont have permission? but im sudo so thats weird06:13
v3n0wPlease can anyone help me to configure grub to boot a windowns on hdb2? I know how to edit the grub, but what i put in?06:13
Dr_WillisTylerDurden,  you ran the filemanager as root?06:13
ztrikkeryou typing sudo before the command?06:13
TylerDurdenwhat do u mean?06:13
TylerDurdenim not using console06:13
TylerDurdenterminal i mean06:13
TylerDurdenim trying to paste using the gui06:13
Dr_WillisTylerDurden,  so you loged in as a user?06:13
userubuntuIm using a V92 044C modem, what i can do, to do work the modem??06:13
TylerDurdenim sudo because in users and groups i set myself as sudo06:13
Dr_Willisv3n0w,  windows xp was installed to that drive where it was at? or has it moved?06:14
Dr_WillisTylerDurden,  it dont work that way as far as i know.06:14
TylerDurdenoh really? how come06:14
Dr_Willisbecause thats not how it works. :P06:14
tokytyler: go to terminal06:14
Lord_Maynothanyone here running breezy??????????????/06:14
TylerDurdenis there anything greater? is root great than sudo? or maybe sys06:14
tokysudo nautilus06:14
anethemaLord_Maynoth, many ppl are06:14
PrimoTurboWhich torrent client do u people use?06:14
naliothLord_Maynoth: control your wild ?s please06:14
PrimoTurboI am running breezy06:15
Dr_Williswhat we have here is some knowledge of linux fundamentals needed :P06:15
Lord_Maynothcool06:15
userubuntuIm using a V92 044C modem, what i can do, to do work the modem??06:15
naliothubotu: tell TylerDurden about cli06:15
HobbseeI'm also running breezy06:15
v3n0wDr_Willis, win is on hdb2 and linux on hda1... When i install linux the other hd was not conected06:15
Lord_Maynothcan you tell me what the difference in the add remove programs is between breezy and hoary... thanks...06:15
Mustard5ubotu: tell userubuntu about dialup06:15
ztrikkerwhats the console command to run the file browser in gnome?06:15
Dr_Willissudo - means "run this program as the user (root) normally"   that settg you set - says who can do 'sudo' stuff.06:15
tokygot it tylerdurden?06:15
Dr_Willisv3n0w,  when you installed windows - where was that hd?06:15
TylerDurdenyeah thanks, but why do i need to do that everytime? isnt there a simpler way to remain sudo/root?06:16
DonPaulieonelord_maynoth: it's n00b friendly for adding programs, as opposed to using apt06:16
Dr_WillisTylerDurden,  simpler perhaps-- but that could be VERY dangerous..06:16
tokysecurity06:16
Dr_WillisTylerDurden,  just one typo as root = no system.06:16
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TylerDurdenlol im not concered about security06:16
Lord_Maynothwell i know that already but I heard that breezy's version was different than hoary's06:16
Lord_MaynothI was just wondering what those differences were06:16
v3n0wDr_Willis, where??? in my computer :)06:16
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Dr_WillisTylerDurden,  and the moment you trashed your system you would be yelling at us. :P06:16
kebTylerDurden you can do a "sudo /bin/bash" and keep the terminal open06:16
anethemathere is no 'add remove programs' in hoary06:16
anethemaits new to breezy06:16
Dr_Willisv3n0w,  where as in on the cable chain/position.06:17
anethemaits jsut a synaptic frontend for noobs06:17
naliothkeb: sudo -s is a better option06:17
DonPaulieonelord_maynoth: i don't remember using it on hoary, i just jumped unbuntu full time, but i like it so far :)06:17
kebok06:17
v3n0wDr_Willis, master06:17
anethemait doesnt exist in hoary06:17
Dr_Willisv3n0w,  so it had xp installed on it - where it exists now?06:17
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v3n0wDr_Willis, slave (hdb2)06:17
Dr_Willisie: you never removed the drive and put it in another slot/conector.06:17
Dr_Willisor moved the cable over.06:17
Lord_Maynoth(thinks... I remember an add remove programs option in hoary... if I'm not mistaken06:18
Dr_WillisXP can be VERY picky about where it boots from.06:18
anethemayou are mistaken sort of06:18
anethemathere is synaptic06:18
anethemawith which, you can add and remove programs06:18
SuseUXahhhh, running 2.6.14-rc3-ck1 kernel in 5.10, nice and nippy :-)06:18
anethemabut the actual add/remove programs thing is new for breezy06:18
ztrikkercant he just make a launcher icon that runs "sudo nautilus" ?06:18
delltonyanyone now what how to find the process id of gstreamer to see if its loaded cause i have a feeling my dialog issue with this annoying volume dialog is part of gstreamer06:18
delltonyi tried pgrep gstreamer and ps -aux | grep gstreamer06:18
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Dr_Willisi was sort of suprised at the new add/programs thing in brezzy thing . it worked good for me.06:18
DonPaulieonesynatic is a front end for apt, this add/remove is "similar" to that of windoze XP. easier and more detailed for the linux newbie06:18
Dr_Willisztrikker,  he could.. but it would want the root password entered some how.06:19
naliothztrikker: allowing nautilus root priveleges can really tear up your userspace06:19
v3n0wDr_Willis, men..... in other distro that uses lilo, i only put to boot on /hdb206:19
Lord_Maynothhmm I remember a nice front end  that let me add/remove firefox evolution etc... and I could also use synaptic... oh well its no biggie it will be out in 4-5 days anywhi and I can see for myself06:19
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ztrikkerah , i see.06:19
DonPaulieonelord_maynoth: running Breezy RC via dist-upgrade so far so good.06:20
breakthestatetaint06:20
GoClick!php06:20
ubotuSee !lamp06:20
GoClick!php406:20
ubotuGoClick: Do they come in packets of five?06:20
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uboturumour has it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP06:20
naliothubotu: tell GoClick about msg the bot06:20
v3n0wPlease can anyone help me to configure grub to boot a windownsXP on hdb2? I know how to edit the grub, but what i put in?06:20
DonPaulieone"one" of the standard, thought it was THE standard ;)06:20
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Dr_Willisv3n0w,  if you never changed the positon of the hd in the machine/cable - a simple 3 line grub entry (or so) should boot it.06:21
TylerDurdenugh ok so i downloaded the ut2k4 patch, overwrote the files nad still no luck, just a splash screen that goes away in a second06:21
TylerDurdenut2k4 worked fine before i restarted my computer06:21
Dr_Willisor ya could just do like i do and tell the bios/mechine what hd to boot. and bypass grub  to get to windows06:21
anethemaVery often you need to do that trick06:21
anethemasetting it to 0x80 for the boot06:21
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anethemain grub06:21
Dr_Willisanethema,  if he never moved the drive.. then i dont think he has do to the moving 0x80 to 0x83 trick06:22
v3n0wDr_Willis, yes.. i know bypass grub.... but... hdb2 = hd(?,?)06:22
Dr_Willisa=006:22
Dr_Willisgrub starts numbering at 0 :P06:22
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SuseUXTylerDurden, what does the readout say when you launch from console?06:22
Dr_Willishda1 = hd0,006:22
Dr_Willishdb1 = hd1,006:22
TylerDurdencan u tell me how to launch from console?06:22
joe_keb, i need to install codecs, how do i dothat?06:22
TylerDurdenim just double clicking the desktop icon, not sure how to launch through terminal06:23
SuseUXjust type ut200406:23
Dr_Willisgrub also ignores the cdrom drive (normally) i think06:23
kebjoe_ download them and untar them to /usr/local/lib/codecs06:23
TylerDurdenCan't find 'ini:Engine.Engine.GameEngine' in configuration file06:23
TylerDurdenHistory:06:23
TylerDurdenExiting due to error06:23
Mustard5so hdb2 = hd1,1 ?06:23
naliothubotu: tell joe_ about w32codecs06:23
naliothTylerDurden: dont paste in here, please06:23
v3n0wDr_Willis, so hdb2 = hd(1,1)? Its dont work.... Can be because i move the Jumper... from master to slave on hd that have winxp???06:23
TylerDurdenoh sorry, can i ask why? and you asked me for output so thats what i did06:23
Dr_Willisv3n0w,  id  been asking IF you had anything like that...06:24
SuseUXseems you have a missing line!06:24
durthow do i change the look of gtk1 apps (ie, i want to make xmms look better)06:24
calamariare there alternate repositories besides archive.ubuntu.com?06:24
naliothTylerDurden: read the /topic. Pasting is considered rude. we have #flood or pastebins available06:24
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Dr_Willisv3n0w,  then you got to do some remaping in the grub options to get the thing back where xp thinks it Should be.. i belive06:24
TylerDurdenso how am i supposed to tell you what my output is?06:24
calamariI mean mirrors :)06:24
SuseUXTylerDurden, jsut delete the .ini file and start it up again06:24
v3n0wDr_Willis, but i tell u... the when i install win the hd was master... e now if is hdb is slave....06:24
kakean_dosoasu06:24
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otterre06:25
Mustard5TylerDurden, you paste it in the pastebin or at #flood06:25
naliothubotu: tell TylerDurden about pastebin06:25
Dr_Willisv3n0w,  my advice.. put it back as master.. it will be easier to make linux boot off being the slave.06:25
TylerDurdenok thanks ill look into that. sorry again06:25
v3n0wDr_Willis, so grub sux man.... The lilo do it so easy06:25
ottercan anyone tell me how to get the GUI running from the $ prompt?06:25
SuseUXthe file is in .ut200406:25
TylerDurdenSuseUX, i dont have an ini file06:25
naliothotter: startx06:26
Mustard5TylerDurden, it keeps the channel from moving too fast with cut and paste activity...just an ettiquete thing06:26
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Dr_Willisv3n0w,  actually its you moving it and xp thts to blame..06:26
Dr_Willisyou;d  need similer thing with lilo06:26
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Dr_Willisheres - sort of how ya need to do it --->  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-57108.html06:27
John2583is there a specific channel for amd64 support?06:27
otternalioth:  "error while loading shared libraries:  libXmuu.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"06:27
naliothJohn2583: you're in it06:27
John2583ok then06:27
v3n0wDr_Willis, yes... but in conf of lilo.. have the command to do that... in grub not :(06:27
naliothotter: something is bodgered in your box06:27
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John2583i'm running 5.10 preview amd64 i want to install mplayer i've tried apt-get install mplayer-amd64 but it says no package found06:28
naliothJohn2583: you'll need to build it from source06:28
John2583oh ok06:28
v3n0wAnyone knows the line to boot a winxp on grub that was moved master to slave????06:28
John2583well that i can do06:28
TylerDurdenSuseUX, i dont see a .ini file in the ut2004 dir06:28
Dr_Willisv3n0w,  you must be using some lilo ive NEVER used befor..  or you are refering to the lilo menu that was just set up to do the same thing as the grub menu can be set to do.06:28
Dr_WillisGrub is one of those tools thats worth spending a few hrs reading and learning about.06:29
SuseUXIs it gurb or ubuntu's fault that it cannot see symlinks to a kernel in /boot?06:29
SuseUXgrub*06:29
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Dr_Willisv3n0w,  the url http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-57108.html shows the grub entry you will need to add. (may need the hd #'s changed)06:29
ztrikkeranyone have problems playing ogm files... mine are running really choppy, im playing them from a dvd06:30
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strhello people06:30
SuseUXTylerDurden, it's in /.ut200406:30
Dr_WillisSuseUX,  hmm.. in gentoo they had a symlink from /boot/boot to /boot for some reason. :P not sure why..06:30
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TylerDurdenim there but there is not ini file06:30
strmy firefox is not working anymore06:30
anethemaive found the 0x80 thing is very often needed06:30
otternalioth:  df =  disk full :(06:30
delltonyanyone running kde and know how to get a dialog box "Volume" from showing up in the cente rof my screen and not going away i would appreciate the help (thanks in advance)06:30
strhow to fix this?06:30
Hobbseestr: more detail?06:30
naliothotter: make room make room06:30
kebstr what do you mean not working06:30
strwhen i'm clicking the firefox icon - simply it doesn't open06:31
Dr_Willisanethema,  aprently grub has a " map (hd1) (hd0)06:31
Dr_Willis map (hd0) (hd1) " options06:31
SuseUXDr_Willis, strange how I set symlinks to bzImage and system.map, didnot see the files on boot06:31
anethemayes06:31
stris there any way i can uninstall and install this?06:31
anethemathats the command to which im refering06:31
TylerDurdenSuseUX whats the full name of the .ini file?06:31
stri'm using apt-get to update/upgrade but it showing also problem06:31
TylerDurdenis it ut2004?06:32
SuseUXut2004.ini I thing, cannot remember, dont have it installed yet06:32
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TylerDurdenbecuase i dont see any file that ends with.ini and ut2004 is the only one without an extantion06:32
anethemaits UT2004.ini06:33
EscapedApecan anyone offer some help as to how I would get an FTP server up on my box?06:33
TylerDurdenok ty06:33
SuseUXmust be that then06:33
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strin my warning status in the top - it show i have 2 package needs to update and it is the firefox06:33
MrFishuhh...06:33
MrFishoO06:33
naliothstr: so update06:33
zrotheAnyone using a mx310?06:33
anethemaand User.ini06:34
MrFishwhere is seth?06:34
strbut when i'm updating it bring me error06:34
MrFishseth_k06:34
Jedrickmy taskbar freezed, why is that?06:34
anethemawhat kind of error06:34
anethemabe specific06:34
Dr_WillisSuseUX,  i think ive seen similer things done befor....06:34
lonzowusup all06:34
v3n0wDr_Willis, i will do that have in the site.... thanks06:34
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anethemaJedrick: do killall gnome-panel06:34
strW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)06:34
strW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)06:34
strW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)06:34
anethemashould fix itselt06:34
strW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)06:34
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anethemastr not in here06:34
SuseUXDr_Willis, so it's a grub thing then, not used grub for a while, seems only likes the file not a link06:34
Jedrickok then after?06:34
Hobbseestr: pastebin06:34
Hobbsee!tell str about repositories06:34
Hobbseethere06:34
anethemasorry thats partly my fault haha06:34
Dr_WillisSuseUX,  i think ive seen other disrtos use symlinks befor06:34
anethemameant for him to explain the error not paste in here06:35
Jedrickhow to start back the gnome panel06:35
zrotheI cannot for the life of me get my mouse side buttons and mouse wheel to work. i have a mx31006:35
SuseUXDr_Willis, yer, lilo06:35
TylerDurdenGAH! great now ut2k4 wont work, it says that ut2004 is missing06:35
TylerDurdenthat wasnt the .ini06:35
Hobbseezrothe: checked google?06:35
Dr_WillisSuseUX,  gentoo uses a symlink to boot even..  and it worked with grub.06:35
MrFish...06:35
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Jedrickanethema: how to start the gnome panel back06:35
zrotheI did06:35
anethemait should restart06:35
naliothstr: please dont paste in here06:35
stri was dc06:35
stri'm sorry06:35
Jedrickok thnx06:36
Jedricki try06:36
anethemastr those errors are because you have backports from breezy in your sources.list and it doesnt apply for breezy06:36
strok; so what should i do?06:36
Hobbseeread what the bot sent you, str06:36
TylerDurdendoes anyone have ut2k4 installed nad could please send me ut2004? just one file06:36
anethemaJedrick, if not just run gnome-panel06:36
Hobbsee!tell str about repositories06:36
naliothanethema: actually, mirrormax is no longer up at all06:36
anethemastr, just remove those backports from your repositories06:36
Jedrickok thnx it just started back06:36
anethemanalioth, that too :)06:36
Jedrick:)06:36
SuseUXDr_Willis, weird then because the copies only work, not the symlinks06:36
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anethemasymlinks are like....pif files06:37
anethemathey only point to a file06:37
strok; i'll try06:37
MrFish...06:37
anethemause a hard link if you need to make a real copy06:37
MrFishwhere is seth_k?06:37
MrFishthat Ubuntu user06:37
strwhere to find again that file config to change the repositories?06:37
Dr_WillisSuseUX,  what filesystem is /boot on for you?06:37
tritium!seen seth_k06:37
ubotuseth_k <n=seth_k@asmallorange.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #kubuntu, 2d 8h 12m ago, saying: ':)'.06:37
Jedrickhow to kill a freezed program, e.g a browser that stops running and i want to kill it, how?06:37
MrFish:O06:37
anethemajedediah, killall <executable name>06:38
naliothJedrick: alt-f2, enter xkill. the next thing your pointer touches, dies06:38
TylerDurdenok well no one helps me. i deleted that ut2004 file, now it says it cant find it. is there a way to restore it?06:38
tokyJedrick:  in terminal       killx06:38
SuseUXDr_Willis, reiserfs06:38
Jedrickok thnx all :)06:38
strwhat file to change the repositories please06:38
naliothubotu: tell str about backports06:39
naliothstr: check your msgs from ubotu06:39
Dr_WillisSuseUX,  Bingo. :P06:39
strok06:39
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Dr_WillisSuseUX,  i think grub has an issue with reiserfs -- at least i recall it having an issue in the past.06:39
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MrFishubotu?06:40
MrFishoO06:40
Ramahanyone possibly have experience with lfs?06:40
v3n0wDr_Willis, hey but in the forum, the hda1 apears to be hd(1,0).... no???06:40
anethemaworks fine with my reiserfs06:40
naliothRamah: #lfs06:40
Dr_Willisgrub emumerates drives normally in the hd(x,y) format06:40
Dr_Willisskipping cdrom drives and starting at 006:40
DonPaulieoneg'nite all06:40
SuseUXDr_Willis, I always wondered way some people use cp instead of ln -s for there kernel files06:40
eythianAnyone use the Ubuntu version of Psi and know how to get the toolbar buttons back?06:40
Ramahya #lfs is a dead channel I've been in there the last 4 hours06:41
Dr_WillisSuseUX,  i just make the boot menus use the actual file names. :P06:41
SuseUXDr_Willis, that explains it06:41
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anethemacan use a hard link also works06:41
v3n0wDr_Willis, hmm so hda1 = hd(0,1)... so the site is wrong... or u06:41
anethemaand hard links also dont take up space06:41
anethemaand are more low-level friendly06:42
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Dr_Willisgrub starts at 0.. so hda1 = hd(0,0) i think :P06:42
anethemaand if you delete your kenel somehow you have a copy06:42
SuseUXanethema, hard link, not familier with that?06:42
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Dr_Willisa hard link is identical to the file. :)06:42
Dr_Willisor so i read.06:42
anethemayeah kinda06:42
v3n0wDr_Willis, :(06:42
anethemabut points to the same file06:42
anethemalike a symlink06:42
anethemabut you could 'delete' the original06:43
SuseUXwhats the command for a hard link?06:43
HrdwrBoba hard link IS a fine06:43
anethemaand the hard link would still work06:43
HrdwrBobfile06:43
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anethemaso is a sym link06:43
anethemain text format06:43
HrdwrBoba file is a hard link, it's just that there's only one06:43
anethemayes thats true:)06:43
anethemabut making a (second) hard link takes up no more space06:43
HrdwrBobyes06:43
strokei i added now deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted06:43
HrdwrBobbut there's no logical difference between them06:43
anethemawell sort of06:43
TeLeKiNeSiSAnybody know how I can get Ubuntu to recognize my external USB hard drive enclosure?06:43
anethemacant hard link off-device06:44
Dr_Willisv3n0w,  the line  map (hd1) (hd0)   is remaping the 2nd hd to appear as the first one.. (remap 1 to 0)06:44
HrdwrBoba hard link is simply a name for an inode that has >1 references06:44
strwhen i apt-get update; it gives me Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.06:44
satafterhis there a disk defragmentor for linux or is that not and issue??06:44
HrdwrBoba symlink is completely different06:44
SuperTails92non issue06:44
HrdwrBoba symlink is a name based reference06:44
Hobbseestr: the hoary backports dont work...that's what the bot told you06:44
anethemayeah06:44
satafterhthanks06:44
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SuseUXsatafterh, dont need one06:44
anethemabut like i said, cant hard link off device so they are a bit diff06:44
strwtf - sowie06:44
SuperTails92ext2/3 keeps itself rather defragmented nicely06:44
strpoor me06:44
anethemaa sym link can also point to somehting that isnt even there06:44
HrdwrBobyes they're totally different06:44
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TeLeKiNeSiSAnybody know how I can get Ubuntu to recognize my external USB hard drive enclosure?06:45
SuseUXpeople still using ext, wow :-)06:45
HrdwrBobit's like a reference06:45
anethemaTeLeKiNeSiS, should just work, plug er in06:45
TeLeKiNeSiSI did but it doesn't appear in the FIle System06:45
HrdwrBobthe difference between the actual variable and a pointer to the variable06:45
TeLeKiNeSiSDevice Manager recognizes it06:45
anethemayeah, there is data on the hdd..each hard link you see, including the 'original' is just a pointer to the date06:45
anethemar06:45
HobbseeTeLeKiNeSiS: yeah, you will need to mount it06:45
TeLeKiNeSiShow?06:46
Hobbseehttp://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ch05.html#id315562206:46
John2583i need gcc 2.9x or gcc 3 for compiling mplayer, how can i get it ?06:46
TeLeKiNeSiSok06:46
anethemait really should mount by itself by default06:46
TeLeKiNeSiSthanks06:46
anethemacheck on your desktop for an icon06:46
naliothJohn2583: use synaptic06:46
TeLeKiNeSiSno icon06:46
anethemaah06:46
anethemayeah06:46
HobbseeTeLeKiNeSiS: change it to the correct place the drive is mounted06:46
John2583when i enter my password in synaptic it says incorrect but i know it's right06:47
anethemamount it then06:47
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anethemawill be /dev/sda1 unless you have sata drives06:47
odathi everyone06:47
anethemaor scsi stuff06:47
TeLeKiNeSiSok06:47
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odatbeen off a linux for awhile forgot some stuff06:47
John2583nalioth, it says bad password but i know it's right06:47
naliothJohn2583: from a terminal type "sudo synaptic"06:47
TeLeKiNeSiSThanks GUYS06:47
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odatwhat is the command to create a symlink again?06:47
anethemaln -s06:47
odatk thanks06:47
anethemaln -s <target> <name of link>06:48
John2583nalioth, ok i've got synaptic running06:48
SuseUXanethema, talk of the devil :-)06:48
anethemadevil?06:48
naliothJohn2583: search for "gcc" in 'names'06:48
SuseUXit's a saying, I guess your not familier :-)06:48
anethemai am, just not sure what you're refering to06:48
v3n0wDr_Willis, o that is i think so... But why in the forum there is a line: map (hd1) (hd0) and after a line: map (hd0) (hd1)06:48
SuseUXsymlinks06:48
strfolks, apt-get update is now OK; but when i go apt-get upgrade it says "Unable to lock the download directory"06:48
anethemai still dont follow06:49
anethemahehe06:49
v3n0wDr_Willis, But i will try.... to see what heppens06:49
SuseUXsomeone asked as we where talking :-)06:49
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anethemaoh06:49
anethemaheh06:49
anethemayeah06:49
Dr_Willisv3n0w,  swap #1 to be #2.. and swap #2 to be #1 ie: swap them :P06:49
anethemagotcha now :)06:49
Dr_Willishttp://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html06:49
SuseUXhehe06:49
Dr_Williserr switch them is what its doingin the bios06:49
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hectorhi06:50
v3n0wDr_Willis, swap? why swap when booting a windows!?06:50
Dr_Willisfirst hd first partion would be hd(0,0) :P i checked..06:50
SuseUXI just cannot live without my -ck kernel :-)06:50
anethemaoops, splitty06:50
anethemawhats -ck06:50
jeff_damn freenode06:50
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jeff_Con Kolivas = ck06:50
anethemawhats kolivas06:50
jeff_It is an experimental kernal with some cool patches06:50
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Dr_Willisv3n0w,  dont swap them.. and see how mad xp gets when it tryes to run from a different 'position' it will think it installed to the C: but is now on D: or E:06:50
Dr_Williswhen in doubt.. try it out.06:50
jeff_He is a guy06:50
anethemaah06:50
SuseUXit's a kernel much better for the desktop06:50
anethemafeel like giving me a highlight or two?06:51
Dr_Willismake several grub entryes that try swaping and not - see what one works.06:51
anethemamajor feature change over default ubuntu kernel06:51
anethemaheh06:51
John2583nalioth, ok thanks06:51
SuseUXmuch more responsive06:51
fr500SuseUX, what kernel?06:51
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SuseUX2.6.14-rc3-ck106:51
anethemaresponsive...06:51
SuseUXindeed06:52
anethemalike menus? i dont seem to have responsiveness problems?06:52
jeff_responsive as in lower latency for things like audio06:52
jeff_better multimedia experience06:52
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v3n0wDr_Willis, o so i will try and i tell u06:52
anethemayou compiled it? or is there a pkg06:52
strplease help - i need my browser back - i'm not able to even search in the internet to solve this - irc is my only hope06:52
lampshadehey anyone know an eta for Breezy?  I know they are close but I'm just curious06:52
anethemawhats the prob str06:52
strhow to make firefox runs again06:52
tritiumlampshade, the 13th06:52
anethemaoct 13 i think06:52
jeff_lampshade, read the roadmap. It is the 13th06:53
anethemawhy doesnt it run..error?06:53
strstill i'm not able to update firefox06:53
anethemayou in hoary /06:53
anethemaor breezy06:53
Dr_Willisthe documention on grub  http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html is very well done.. :P im rereading it now..06:53
strhoary06:53
anethemaok06:53
SuseUXanethema,  compiled it06:53
anethemaand your problem is the backports06:53
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stri did remove it already06:53
anethemaok06:53
anethemaneed to add the new backports06:54
anethemadid you do that?06:54
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strcan we just uninstall firefox and install again?06:54
anethemayes06:54
nomasteryoda|w!tell nomasteryoda about backports06:54
naliothstr: in a terminal type "sudo apt-get -f install"    DONT add backports06:54
stryes, i already remove the backports06:54
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jeff_or sudo apt-get install reinstall06:54
strokei nalioth; i'll try it06:54
strthanks06:54
anethemadont add backports? then you wont get 1.0.706:54
anethemabut yeah06:55
naliothanethema: backports are trouble06:55
anethema-f should fix your problem06:55
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anethemathey can be forsure :)06:55
naliothanethema: 'new' doesnt necessarily mean 'better'06:55
anethemaalso true06:55
anethemathen again, i'm using beta breezy here06:55
anethemahaha06:55
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lampshadebreezy uses gcc4 by default right? Or did I make that up06:55
SuseUXanyone use a proper brower like galeon? :-D06:55
naliothlampshade: correct06:55
Hobbseelol @ naethema, same here, and using kde 3.5 beta, so i'm askign for trouble!06:56
naliothSuseUX: i use non FF browsers06:56
odatok i am doing something wrong with the symlink thing06:56
SuperTails92I use Epiphany.06:56
SuseUXahhh nice06:56
Hobbsee*lol @ anethema, same here, and using kde 3.5 beta, so i'm askign for trouble!06:56
odati'm doing ln -s <target where i want it to go> <name of file>    what am i doing wrong?06:56
anethema4.0.206:56
anethema is default in breezy06:56
SuseUXsuch a underrated browser Galeon is06:56
strsirs, still no luck06:57
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SuseUXHobbsee, it has a nice sound server bug that locks your machine up :-)06:57
strafter sudo apt-get -f install firefox, what should i do?06:58
anethemawhat did it say06:58
anethemafixed?06:58
anethemainstalled?06:58
naliothand dont paste in here06:58
anethemahaha sorry06:58
anethemause pastebin.com06:58
anethemaor the topic thing06:58
SuseUXor #flood06:58
strit says firefox is already the newest06:58
anethemahmm06:59
anethemaand running firefox-bin06:59
anethemasays what06:59
hondjeHowdy...I just erased all the confs in my ~ dir, now I can't get nautilus to show that little bar on the bottom that I can move up to the parent dir..what option in gconf is that?06:59
anethemaagain dont paste06:59
anethemaheh06:59
naliothstr: in the terminal type "sudo apt-get --purge remove mozilla-firefox"06:59
SuperTails92sudo aptitude purge mozilla-firefox06:59
Jedrickwhen installing some like sudo apt-get install realplayer, which folder can it be located.. like on windows all installed programs can be found on c:/Program files06:59
hondjeoh hey, found it after I asked as always :)06:59
misfit_toyinteresting....the reason amaroK didn't load and kept segfaulting was because of nvidia-glx, I updated to the latest kernel, install the nvidia 7667 drivers and now it's fine...07:00
odatanyone able to help with symlinking?07:00
SuseUXHobbsee, you mean non browser mode?07:00
naliothodat: in a terminal, "man ln"07:00
HobbseeSuseUX: fun07:00
alexcamilohow does the module system work in apache2?07:00
HobbseeSuseUX: um...i'm lost now07:00
alexcamiloi was googleing but i havent found a nice description yet07:00
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Jedrickwhen installing some like sudo apt-get install realplayer, which folder can it be located.. like on windows all installed programs can be found on c:/Program files07:01
strnalioth: it works, now what i should do next?07:01
strdo i need to install now firefox?07:01
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SuseUXodat, like what?07:01
anethemaJedrick, anywhere from /usr/local to /opt07:01
anethemaheh07:01
anethemaor anywhere in between!07:01
anethemaif you go to synaptic and look at the package propreties07:01
Jedrickok07:01
anethemashows you all the files in the package and their paths07:02
odatSuseUX, i am trying to symlink the java plugin to mozilla07:02
naliothstr: yes, "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"07:02
nomasteryoda|wodat, there is a script inside /opt that does it for you07:02
anethemawith my repos odat07:02
anethemasudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.507:02
anethemainstalls it and installs the moz plugin07:02
nomasteryoda|wer, nvmd07:02
nomasteryoda|wwrong chan07:02
odatnomasteryoda, not sure what you mean07:02
naliothodat: use the java deb and it will do it for you07:03
nomasteryoda|wnevermind odat wrong channel07:03
naliothubotu: tell odat about javadeb07:03
strnalioth: success!07:03
naliothstr: backports are a pain07:03
nomasteryoda|woh, you can also install latest Opera too...07:03
nomasteryoda|wwhich is pretty nice07:03
SuseUXsaves me tell you the command then :-)07:03
strnalioth: but when i click the firefox; it doesn't work again07:04
odatnalioth,  i already installed it i just need to symlink it07:04
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strnalioth: :(07:04
naliothodat: ln -s source target07:04
strit opens for a while and close07:05
c0rrupt_hey does anyone know of any linux sandboxes that use windows api for scanning suspicious exes?07:05
odatnalioth,  do i need to be in the directory of the file i want to symlink?07:05
naliothanethema: your terminal firefox suggestion please07:05
strdo i need to reinstall everything :(07:05
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naliothodat: nope. use absolutes07:05
HrdwrBobc0rrupt_: erm?07:05
naliothstr: not at all07:06
lampshadeI'm bored......  how's ubuntu......  everyone should cat their mouse and redirect  the output to their speakers for fun..07:06
alexcamilolampshade. how do you do that?07:06
stri have no other OS in the house; only this in Ubuntu07:06
alexcamilocat [device for mouse]  >> [device for speakers] ?07:06
naliothstr: open a terminal and type "firefox"07:06
misfit_toylampshade, ubuntu is coming along nicely, breezy is fun, low resources, nice distro07:06
naliothstr: watch the terminal for clues07:06
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strno clues at all07:07
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odatnalioth, example?07:07
fr500misfit_toy, lower resources than hoary?07:07
strnothing happend07:07
strdo i need to restart my box07:07
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naliothodat: the wiki on java has not helped you? the command is on the page07:07
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SuseUXsounds like a segmentaion fault07:08
naliothstr: if you wish, but not necessary07:08
LasherAnyone mind answering some tech questions for me? pm if you can07:08
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naliothLasher: ask in here07:08
fr500Lasher, first ask07:08
strlimme try; i'll be back..07:08
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strthanks07:08
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c0rrupt_?07:08
c0rrupt_norman anti-virus07:08
lampshadeLasher:  you gotta ask in the channel first07:08
c0rrupt_it makes a virtual sand box around suspicous files07:08
shekharhello can someone help me fix a problem with logging out from gnome in ubuntu breezy?07:08
misfit_toyfr500, according to my laptop here, yes, I have about 15 things running, gaim, firefox, t-bird, xchat, amarok, liferea, two terms, and my cpu is at 4%07:08
odatnalioth, arggg didn't work07:09
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fr500ok07:09
c0rrupt_and basically displays everything that they do07:09
Hobbseesheckhar: dont ask to ask, just ask07:09
odatnalioth, it created like a shortcut to it07:09
c0rrupt_like add registry keys.. connect to servers07:09
c0rrupt_etc07:09
naliothodat: that is waht you want07:09
naliothsymlink = shortcut07:09
Lasherok, first off, this isn't related to Ubuntu, but if in WinXP Pro SP2, with the Firewall off or on, I type ipconfig /all in cmd.  I get nothing in the connection-specific DNS suffix...is that normal or not?07:09
lampshademisfit_toy:  I noticed that Azureues or however you spell it took like waaaaaaaaaay less cpu and mem than my windows box doing the same torrent07:09
odatnalioth, well when i go to check plugins installed in firefox it doesn't show up07:09
ColonelKernelim at about 11 percent but im running tvtime07:09
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naliothodat: visit a java page07:10
nomasteryoda|wwww.java.com07:10
nomasteryoda|wthat works07:10
shekharHobbsee:  sometimes it helps to get attention first... basically the problem is that when i go to system --> logout and choose to logout user, restart or shut down, it simply saves my session and doesn't logout or restart or shutdown07:10
ColonelKernelOMG! Its the Chariman of WCW!1107:10
odatnalioth,  missing plugin07:10
lampshadeLasher:  For the primary dns suffix you doon't have to have anything there07:10
misfit_toylampshade, Azureus is java, it sucks up cpu anyway...I just use the built in gnome torrent.07:10
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lampshademisfit_toy:  That's my point though, it didn't!!  Like none I was blown away by how little it used!  I was expecting it to eat tons with the JVM and such07:11
Lasherlamp: if I'm at work, I use a proxy server for my connection, and I get access.mycompany.com07:11
LasherI used to get something, but I think I messed it up.07:11
Hobbseesheckhar: it still clogs up the channel, and doesnt allow anyone to help you.  Unfortunately, i cant answer your question as i dont use gnome07:11
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Jedrickwhat is a BitTorrent?07:11
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jorgp2is there a way to fix when I do an apt-get update to gets all the files all the time, even when there are no updates to get07:12
Lashereither way, second question...how do I install Ubuntu in Windows?07:12
misfit_toylampshade, I'll have to see again someday with Azureus, but in the meantime congrats. :)07:12
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LasherI couldn't find a doc or whitesheet on exactly what to do.07:12
jorgp2and when apt-get update starts, it does not remember where it was07:12
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HobbseeLasher: you dont want to just boot from the cd adn install from there?07:13
naliothJedrick: http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/07:13
LasherHobbsee: Will it make a separate partition?07:13
Lasherand boot menu?07:13
SuseUXso whats the difference between RC and final 5.10?07:14
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HobbseeLasher: yes, as long as you do a manual partition, and dont overwrite the entire disk07:14
HobbseeSuseUX: probably not a lot, except a few bugfixes07:14
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naliothSuseUX: about a week07:14
Hobbsee!tell Lasher about dualboot07:15
SuseUXahh, because I'm runnning the RC07:15
naliothSuseUX: not any more. you box should be self-updating07:15
kushboyHey, I need libIDL-config and/or I guess libIDL (>=0.6.3). Anyone know how I can get it?07:15
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jorgp2how do I get apt-get to remember where it was if interupted07:15
naliothkushboy: use synaptic07:15
tokyanyone knows how to get an ubuntu pc into a domain?07:15
naliothjorgp2: it will remember when you restart it07:15
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SuseUXnalioth, do the packages get updated with the lastest software releases?07:16
lampshadetoky:  As in like a windows domain?07:16
naliothSuseUX: if you update when the little red thing shows up, you'll always be up to date07:16
HobbseeSuseUX: yes, as soon as they get in the repositories07:16
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jorgp2it wants to download entire repos list each time, even if there are no updates07:16
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jeff_has anyone gotten firefox -install-global-extension /path/to/extension.xpi to work in ubuntu?07:16
shekharHobbsee:  any idea?07:16
jeff_I am trying to script it and it isn't working07:16
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Hobbseeshekhar: no, i dont run gnome, sorry07:16
Hobbseeshekhar: i replied above :P07:16
SuseUXNice :-)07:17
shekharHobbsee:  thanks anyway :)07:17
tokynope, its a samba domain07:17
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Hobbseeshekhar: no probs07:17
LasherHobbsee: is ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-amd64 a bootable iso?07:17
SuseUXlooking out for AbiWord 2.407:17
naliothodat: did you find the answer you sought?07:17
HobbseeLasher: does it end in .iso?  it should be, as long as it was burned correctly07:17
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Trashcan/list07:18
HobbseeLasher: that is the way they name the disks07:18
SuseUXmind you this OO.o 2 beta is not bad at all07:18
alexcamiloi installed realplayer and tried to run realplayer but for some reason it refuses to start up.07:18
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LasherI d/l'd it, I just copied the name of the iso07:18
tokylampshade: Samba Domain07:18
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Lasherso, yes, that's bootable from startup?07:19
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jennieThis is new to me does it really work07:20
TylerDurdencan somebody please help me get natulis to think im sudo already? without using console, gui only07:20
HobbseeLasher: should be, try it...if it refuses to, it'll auto boot to yoru hard drive07:20
tritiumjennie, does what work?07:20
TylerDurdenim sick of it, it keeps telling me i dont have permission even though im logged in as root/sudo07:20
SuseUXTylerDurden, sudo nautilus --no-desktop07:20
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SuseUXwhy do you need it anyway?07:21
deFryskTylerDurden, permission for what ?07:21
TylerDurdenbut i dont want to have to keep the terminal open and i dont have to have to type that in every single time i want to change something07:21
TylerDurdenpermission to overwrite a file or create a new folder07:21
SuseUXwhy?07:21
LasherThanks Hobbsee07:21
TylerDurdenbecuase i want to be able to do those without having toi type that stuff in07:22
deFryskTylerDurden, all space you need to do that is your /home/username folder07:22
LasherI'll be back once I get this running.07:22
jennieI can't get any messanger but this to work and I don't know any one on here... I was trying to find out if it was some dumb thing that was just going to coninue saying people were singin on and if people could actually talk on it or what07:22
SuseUXTylerDurden, thats what /home is for, your user account07:22
deFryskTylerDurden, outside that aerea its no playground07:22
TylerDurdenbut i want to be able to control everything, root, dev, usr07:22
TylerDurdenand it wont let me change anything in them07:22
TylerDurdenim not playing around. i know what im doing07:22
hondjejennie: Under the applications menu, there's a program called 'gaim'. Open it up, and click 'add accounts' to add your IM stuff07:22
SuseUXto do what exactly?07:22
TylerDurdendoesnt matter.07:23
deFryskTylerDurden, stay out of that earea07:23
TylerDurdeninstall firefox in usr, or modify a file, doesnt matter i want to be able to07:23
deFryskTylerDurden, you are not running windows07:23
fr500TylerDurden, select run and run gksudo nautilus /home/username07:23
SuseUXit's useless to you07:23
HobbseeLasher: no problems07:23
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TylerDurdenugh, please just tell me how without having to do anything in console07:23
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fr500TylerDurden, as i said, select run application and type that07:23
Hobbseeuse the run command....07:23
SuseUXmake a link with that command07:23
TylerDurdenlinux is useless to me if i cant control the entire hard drive easily07:24
deFryskTylerDurden, ugh get linspire07:24
fr500TylerDurden, make a new launcher with that command07:24
TylerDurdenoh yeah!07:24
jenniethat is not on mine07:24
TylerDurdenok ill try07:24
SuseUXTylerDurden, I dont know anyone who does that like your saying07:24
hondjeI am jack's stubborn dislike of learning07:24
tritiumjennie, it's installed by default07:24
NsOmNiAclol hondje07:24
deFryskhondje, hehe07:24
jennieMy computer is dumb I looked it wasn't on their any where07:24
hondjeApplications -> Internet -> Gaim Instant Messenger07:25
deFryskI want to be able to ruin my os without having to use root07:25
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naliothTylerDurden: you do not need to control the entire HD07:25
TylerDurdenwow wtf is ur prblem. im not going to ruin my os, its my computer y do u have to know what i want to do it for just give me the answer no need to get picky07:25
naliothTylerDurden: you can do as you wish to /home/TylerDurden07:25
CountDownAnyone know how to get a USB device to appear as a serial port in /dev/?  I'm writing firmware for a USB device and want PC-side apps to access it as a serial device.07:26
fr500TylerDurden, this is community help you can't treat people like that here07:26
hondjeHe's right, it is his computer07:26
naliothubotu: tell TylerDurden about cli07:26
ztrikkeris there a package file somewhere for cdemu or do i have to compile it myself?07:26
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hondjeLet him ruin it07:26
hondjeDoesn't affect anyone when he gets pwned and runs a spamnet07:26
fr500ubotu, tell me abou cli07:26
deFrysknalioth, some people just dont get it07:26
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fr500ubotu, tell fr500 abou cli07:26
tokyanyone knows how to get an ubuntu pc into a domain?07:26
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SuseUXTylerDurden, we told you the answer07:26
Hobbseetrue, and when he screws it up he might learn something in the process07:26
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TylerDurdenok and i got it07:26
TylerDurdenim talking about honje and such07:27
NsOmNiAcapparently not07:27
TylerDurdenits my decision dont tell me how to handle my computer07:27
fr500toky, explain better07:27
anethemaso go to your login screen setup07:27
anethemasecurity, options07:27
TylerDurdenim just asking for the answer, not ur opinion07:27
jennieK i got that far07:27
HobbseeTylerDurden: then login as root, and go away07:27
anethemacheck allow root to login07:27
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tokyanyone knows how to get an ubuntu pc into a samba domain?07:27
anethemathen can log in as root07:27
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TylerDurdenI AM ROOT FFS07:27
anethemaso whats your question07:27
tokyi need it to authenticate the user against the Domain07:27
Hobbseethen what's your problem?  you have full access, just like you want07:27
SuseUXTylerDurden, actually no it's not, because when you mess things up, you'll come back here moaning07:27
TylerDurdenbut it still gives me that.. whatever u guys r no help.. i dont need ur opinions07:27
fr500TylerDurden, if you are root you dont need a thing07:27
deFryskTylerDurden, creat a rootaccount and login as root07:27
Hobbseeoh good07:27
naliothtoky: please don't repeat, if anyone knows your answer they'll speak up07:27
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tokynalioth i re-wrote it07:28
SeverianTyler, then please leave.07:28
SuseUXmoron07:28
Hobbseecan someone ban him?07:28
SuseUXwhat can I say07:28
Severianoh good, he did07:28
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naliothgentlemen, no need for name calling07:28
Hobbseelol...they keep coming in, it's a shame07:28
NsOmNiAc8-)07:28
Hobbseegentlemen?07:28
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SuseUXnalioth, indeed but he took the pis*07:29
SuseUX:-)07:29
hondjewhoa, that was weird....thought I lost telnet :o07:29
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naliothyes, but let us do try to be civil07:29
misfit_toyHobbsee, everyone forgets that on the internet you are really just a chicken and no one else knows07:29
deFryskhe just one of the clueless poeple07:29
deFryskpeople even07:29
ztrikkerWas that they guy that was asking how to access his HDD from the live cd earlier?07:29
Hobbseemisfit_toy: rofl!  that's gotta be the second time i've ever been called a gentleman07:29
hondjeI'm the most civilized troll you'll ever find :)07:30
seth_k|lappyCan somebody tell me where to find the IRC logs for this channel? :)07:30
naliothseth_k|lappy: see /topic07:30
seth_k|lappynalioth, umm07:30
SuseUXnalioth, this is what microsoft have learned people, it's shocking to watch07:30
seth_k|lappyam I just missing it?07:30
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Hobbseeseth_k|lappy: i dont think so...i've seen them, looking for them07:30
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naliothapokryphos: who changed the logs?07:31
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naliothnow we are all lost07:31
deFryskits no longer in topic i see07:31
TylerDurdenhow do i create a launcher? in command to i put sudo nautilus?07:31
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Hobbseemisfit_toy: rofl!  being a woman, i feel very privelaged to get it :P07:31
jennieOk I got the sign in name but if I try going further than that it says disconected07:31
hondjeTylerDurden: right click and add launcher. Command is gksudo nautilus --no-desktop07:31
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misfit_toyHobbsee, it's a brave new world!07:31
TylerDurdenty07:31
jeff_There are women that use ubuntu... now thats cool07:32
TylerDurdenand is it an app or a directory?07:32
jeff_</troll>07:32
hondjeapp07:32
naliothHobbsee: my apologies for not including you07:32
hondjejeff_: They got their own forum07:32
NsOmNiAcOMG07:32
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TylerDurden=/ doesnt open that way07:32
TylerDurdennothing happens when i try opening it07:32
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misfit_toyhola Venson07:32
Kagenarhg07:32
Hobbsee:P07:32
KagenI need help07:32
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jennieMy computer is going to piss me off and I am going to chuck it out a window07:33
naliothKagen: ask07:33
Hobbseei found the irc logs - http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/07:33
hondjehrm, that's odd07:33
deFryskTylerDurden, alt-f2 and put the command in there07:33
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Hobbseenalioth: apology accepted07:33
seth_k|lappycheers Hobbsee :)07:33
KagenI can't seem to figure out how to install wine on ubuntu07:33
hondjedoesn't work for me either...you'd think the launcher would work07:33
Vensonhey misfit_toy07:33
Vensonmisfit_toy: how goes?07:33
glyn_I just tried installing JRE, but now when I open my browser where it needs JRE it doesn't work..please help me, I don't want this to take 4 hours or so like most of my installations07:33
Hobbseeno probs, had to go thru my history07:33
Severianjennie, will that help?07:33
anethemaKagen, sudo apt-get install wine07:33
anethemahehe07:33
TylerDurdendoesnt work either defrysk07:33
TylerDurden gksudo nautilus --no-desktop07:33
Hobbseegly_n: check that java is installed: java -version07:33
Kagenthat command, where do I enter it???07:33
misfit_toyVenson, just headin' to bed, take care my friend.07:33
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Ramahglyn: how did you d/l it?07:33
misfit_toyl8r y'all07:33
Vensonmisfit_toy: you too :)07:34
Ramahdo you have a package manager you can use to automate the installation?07:34
jennieYes I wont have to deal with the stupid thing07:34
hondjeTylerDurden: try it w/out the --no-desktop07:34
anethemaTylerDurden, just forget it and log in as root07:34
hondjeit behaves better than it used to07:34
anethemasave yourself the trouble07:34
deFryskTylerDurden, if you instist on using root continuasly you'd better create a root account and log in as root07:34
TylerDurdeni am root!07:34
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TylerDurdenI AM I AM I AM07:34
ztrikker...07:34
deFryskthen you have full acces07:34
hondjeWhy?07:34
glyn_glyn@Haksmoke:~$ java -version bash: java: command not found07:34
Hobbseethen what's your problem?07:34
TylerDurdenbut i dont know why, but it says i dont have permission07:34
hondjeWhat possible reason is there to run as root?07:34
anethemaso change the permissions07:34
Hobbseeglyn_:give me a sec07:34
TylerDurdeni did, i changed it to sudo07:34
anethemadoing all this stuff wont change the permissions07:34
Ramahwhat distro are you using?07:34
anethemachmod will07:34
TylerDurdenstill no luck07:34
anethemaif you are logged in as root07:35
Kagenok, I used the package program to install wine before07:35
Hobbseeglyn_: hoary or breezy?07:35
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glyn_hoary07:35
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Kagenand in the terminal, it says it's latest07:35
TylerDurdeni cant chmod because it says im not the owner07:35
Kagenbut I can't seem to run it07:35
anethemasudoing till you are blue in the face wont change folder permissions07:35
deFryskTylerDurden, dont use sudo or anything like that when root07:35
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:nalioth] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | Breezy Release Candidate out (Final release: Oct 13):http://tinyurl.com/e3gol | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Channel Logs - http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
Kagenwhen I try to run a .exe, it says it cannot display it07:35
deFrysksudo is for non-foor users07:35
Ramahhmm07:35
ztrikkerright click on the folder your trying to mess with , go to the permissions tab and change it there if you dont want to use the console07:35
hondjeKagen: I bet that's because you're in linux07:35
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Kagenuhh yeah, you think?07:35
anethemaKagen, wine doesnt work for all programs07:35
anethemahondje, he is using wine07:35
TylerDurdenztrikker... i cant because it says im not the owner07:35
hondjeI missed that part, doh07:35
jennieI am going to kill someone mostlikly my self becaseu to many things and people piss me off07:36
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jeff_jennie: You promise?07:36
hondjejennie: remember, walk down the street, not across07:36
jennieYes07:36
anethemashe sounds like jennie from L-word haha07:36
jeff_sweet07:36
N6REJI got a question guys... I'm installing breezy on my sons machine and it has a belkin 54G wireless nic.  It doesn't see the nic but DOES see what it believes is a firewire device.  Which of course it isn't.... a how-to says I need ndiswrapper... do I ignore the nic for now, finish the install or what?07:36
TylerDurdenok lets try this, how do i turn myself into root if im not root at the moment07:36
jennieNo I am just gong to run my car off the side of the road or into a big truck07:36
Trashcansudo -i07:36
TylerDurdenwithout going to console and typing sudo... i dont want to use console07:36
anethemaN6REJ, yeah finish the install07:36
TylerDurdeni want to use the gui07:36
anethemamess with NDISwrapper later07:37
N6REJanethema: k, ty.07:37
deFryskTylerDurden, sounds that being root all the time the system is already broken07:37
Ramahglyn:(see if this helps you) http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/coldrick?entry=java_development_on_ubuntu_part07:37
anethemait can be a pain in the butt to get working07:37
SuseUXTylerDurden, just give up, spend more time learning linux not learning useless stuff07:37
jeff_TylerDurden: hit ALT F2 and they type the command07:37
TylerDurdenit doesnt do anything jeff_07:37
TylerDurdennothing happens when i do07:37
anethemaTylerDurden, you are misunderstanding how linux works07:37
ztrikkeryoure going to have to use the console....its a big part of the this OS07:37
anethemaif you are logged in as root, thatrs it07:37
anethemayou cant get any more root07:37
Jedrickis gaim doesnt support cam viewing?07:37
Ramahglyn: just download the normal version not the development sdk07:37
hondjemega root!07:38
anethemaas root you can change any folder permissions07:38
DShepherdI am upgrading to breezy from hoary but not all the packages have been downloaded. Is it wise to installed the already downloaded packages myself?07:38
hondjeUID -1!07:38
deFryskTylerDurden, dont use sudo or anything07:38
jeff_Jedrick: google for gaim-vv. It will be integrated into gaim when it is fully stable07:38
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ztrikkerhondje : shhh!!! that only myth...07:38
anethemayeah, as root sudo is useless unless you want to make yourself into another user07:38
TylerDurdenanethema, i am the only user on this computer,  and i am root, but it says im not the owner when i try to change permissions07:38
jennieMy computer says my account has currently been suspended07:38
Jedrickok07:38
hondjehehe07:38
DShepherdI running out of space :(07:38
deFryskTylerDurden, you have it all without needing sudo07:38
anethemathen you are not root07:38
anethemahaha07:38
naliothDShepherd: the pkgs will come when they are ready07:38
anethemaif you are root, you can change permissions07:38
glyn_so I need the JDK not just JRE?07:38
TylerDurdenif i type sudo while im admin it messes up and makes me a regular user?07:38
glyn_the missing plugins window said I just needed JRE07:38
Ramahya07:38
glyn_is this a bug?07:38
anethemathat is possible yes07:38
st1lgarwoohoo ! it's update time =)07:38
Ramahno07:38
TylerDurdenok anethema, how can i make myself root?07:38
anethemadont use sudo as root07:38
Ramahthe jre is good enough07:39
anethemawhen linux boots you login yes?07:39
deFryskTylerDurden, suso if for non root users07:39
Ramahdid you download it from sun already?07:39
glyn_I have JRE and I installed it07:39
TylerDurdenroot is higher than sudo?07:39
deFrysksudo07:39
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anethemano07:39
Ramahbut it isn't working in firefox?07:39
glyn_No07:39
deFryskTylerDurden, root is root the boss07:39
ztrikkercan you assume ownership of the drive if your using the live cd....i would think the security on the drive wouldn't let you07:39
anethemasudo just makes you another user07:39
Trashcansudo is for running an application as root07:39
deFryskadmin07:39
anethemain most cases root07:39
deFryskwhatever07:39
Trashcanif you are already root07:39
jennieI am not a root I am the dirt the root is planted in07:39
Trashcanthings will run as root07:39
anethemayou can use sudo to make yousefl any user07:39
anethemanot just root07:39
Trashcanyou don't need to explicitely specify it with sudo07:39
Hobbseeglyn_: grab the deb from http://giannaros.org/public/ and install it that way07:39
TylerDurdenok then howcome when i root myself and try to open lets say add program, it asks me for a password but when i sudo myself it doesnt07:39
Trashcanright07:39
anethemawhat do you mean 'root yourself'07:40
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anethemawhen you login07:40
anethemado you login wiht the user 'root'07:40
TylerDurdenREALLY?!07:40
anethemaor some other login name07:40
TylerDurdenomg thats y07:40
deFryskTylerDurden, running as root all the time underestimates the powers of root destruct07:40
esac_does anybody know what to install to play .rmvb (i have no idea what format that is). i have ffmpeg and w32codecs07:40
Trashcanhehe defrysk07:40
TylerDurdenarrrrrrrrrg! ok how can i duplicate all my current settings and transfer them to user root?07:40
anethemai ran as root only in slackware for years before giving it up, never destroyed my system07:40
Trashcantyler: i guaruntee if you don't know what you are doing, and you run as root 100% of the time, you are going to destroy your system07:40
TylerDurdenugh see? i didnt know there was only one possible root and i had to login as "root"07:40
anethemabut it is a bad idea forsure07:40
anethemaso make a root account07:41
KagenI can't seem to get anything to work on wine, crap.07:41
deFryskhehe07:41
anethemaset a password on it to do so07:41
glyn_how do I uninstall the JAVA I already installed?07:41
anethemain the console (you have to, dont whine) type passwd root07:41
naliothglyn_: how did you install it?07:41
deFryskglyn, how did you install it ?07:41
anethemasudo passwd root07:41
TylerDurdenyeah but my currenct account has everything configured on it, making a new one will kinda start over with no personlized desktop and all and i dont want to go over it again07:41
glyn_by the instructions that said to do it in the terminal07:41
Ramahglyn http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php07:41
ztrikkerthen use sudo07:41
anethemaTylerDurden, you are just gonna have to use the console07:41
deFryskglyn, the binfile of sunjava ?07:42
naliothRamah: actually we have java packages for ubuntu07:42
glyn_yeah07:42
anethemaif you dont wanna ever use it, linux isnt really for you07:42
glyn_I don't have the disk space now to use the deb07:42
anethemause sudo in the console to become root07:42
TylerDurdenno thanks, thats not the point, the point is i want to be able to use nautilus with root07:42
anethemasudo -s to stay root07:42
deFryskglyn, the hard way search and remove07:42
SuseUXanethema, I thought i'd seen everything but this....07:42
TylerDurdenand not having to type sudo nautilus in console everytime i want to open it07:42
anethemahahah07:42
anethemaTylerDurden,07:42
anethemalook here07:42
naliothTylerDurden: nautilus as root is a definitely good way to bodger your sytstem to where nobody can use it07:42
anethemahttp://ubuntuguide.org/#browsefilesfoldersasrootnautilus07:42
deFryskTylerDurden, as root no07:42
anethemai didnt know thats all you wanted07:42
anethemalook at that link07:43
anethemait answers your exact question07:43
TylerDurdenok can u explain to me y its a bad idea to have complete control over ur system?07:43
Kagenwine isn't working, I don't know what I did wrong...07:43
Trashcanlol anethema , you just answered the question I was typing with that link - thanks07:43
TylerDurdenits not like im going to erase and rename random files07:43
naliothand a good exclamation to "ubuntuguide breaks ubuntu"07:43
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anethemano but what if you ran some bad program07:43
anethemainstead of losing /home you could lose the whole sysem07:43
NsOmNiAcyou have .........nevermind07:43
TylerDurdeni wont though..07:43
naliothTylerDurden: nautilus DOES rename and repermission random files when given root powers07:43
deFryskTylerDurden, linux has full control if you interfere/take over you might break the os07:43
GTroyanyone want to help with a two minute walk through?07:43
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ztrikkerif you make one typo you lose your system. its like that when your root07:44
TrashcanTylerDurden its not like im going to erase and rename random files <-- it's not a matter of erasing 'random' files, its files you don't know the meaning of07:44
naliothGTroy: ask your question07:44
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anethemaits not even that07:44
TylerDurdenIM NOT GOING TO MESS WITH RANDOM FILES!!!!!!!07:44
Trashcanyou make a /user under root and put stuff in there07:44
TylerDurdenwhat is ur guys problem?07:44
anethemaits other programs ran as root when you dont know07:44
Trashcanthen you try to delete it07:44
anethemaTylerDurden, its not you really07:44
Trashcanand delete /usr07:44
Trashcansystem = dead07:44
TylerDurdeni just want to be able to open new folders in lets say dev or usr07:44
naliothTylerDurden: nautilus has know bugs of changing system files when given root powers.07:44
TylerDurdenwho said im going to delete usr?07:44
anethemawhat if you run as root, then open some program that erases your kernel?07:44
anethemayou're fucked07:44
jennieI finaly got further now it tells me the account is suspended and I need to log on to the Yahoo site to get my yahoo messanger but my yahoo page wont let me sign in07:44
naliothGTroy: dont msg me. ask in here07:44
anethemaer sorry about the language07:44
Trashcanyup07:44
GTroyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WG111HowTo?highlight=%28netgear%29%7C%28wg111%2907:45
Trashcanthats a huge problem with windows, people always run as administrator07:45
slewhi i just installed ubuntu and it didnt ask me for a root password but it expects it for su and apt-get. what is or where do i set the root password?07:45
hondjethat sounds like a yahoo problem, not ubuntu07:45
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Trashcanso any application they run has 'root' privileges and can do whatever it wants07:45
Hobbseeslew: the p/w you set during the installation07:45
SuseUXamazing07:45
naliothubotu: tell slew about root07:45
GTroyup to setup network interfaces and don't know how to proceed07:45
Trashcanyou are effectively trying to bypass all the security in place on linux07:45
TylerDurdenubuntu tell tylerdurden about apt-get07:45
Hobbseeis the oen you use for sudo07:45
anethemaTrashcan, exactly, THAT is the problem07:45
slewHobbsee, that dosent work07:45
TylerDurdenubotu: tell tylerdurden about root07:45
naliothubotu: tell TylerDurden about msg the bot07:45
anethemahaha07:46
Trashcan<offtopic> nice thing about Vista is they are finally adopting linux's strict 'run as' policy07:46
anethemais that a real command nalioth07:46
anethemamsg the bot07:46
anethemahehe07:46
Hobbseedefinetly nice thing07:46
DShepherdis breezy shipping with a graphical installer07:46
jeff_DShepherd, nope07:46
anethemaafaik, no07:46
DShepherdany reason why?07:46
SuseUXTrashcan, after a complete rewrite07:46
anethemahaha nice nalioth :)07:46
deFryskDShepherd, no need for that07:46
_native_dose not need it07:46
jeff_DShepherd: Would you like to do the coding yourself?07:46
Trashcanhehe07:47
_native_the installer is one of the best07:47
deFryskDShepherd, its plain and self explanitory07:47
jeff_DShepherd: If you do a good job, I'm sure it will be accepted07:47
jennieI am chucking the computer out the window07:47
DShepherdjeff_: there's no need for that :)07:47
anethemajennie whats wrong..just ask questions if you have them07:47
jeff_DShepherd: Remember, in open source land, asking why is normally volunteering07:47
GTroycan you help nalioth?07:47
TylerDurdenok one last thing, is it possible to transfer my current account to root?07:47
Hobbseethe installer is fine, they've made it way more obvious than the hoary installer07:47
Severianjennie, at least open the window first07:47
TylerDurdeni mean all my current settings07:47
anethemadont just sit and whine about your computer making you mad07:47
anethemaheh07:47
HobbseeGTroy, what is your question?07:47
ztrikkerthe only thing i wish for in the ubuntu install is a little more info when doing the partition. i was half scared that it was going to delete my whole drive07:48
DShepherdjeff_: yup07:48
_native_yeah you got real experts here. ;-] 07:48
deFryskDShepherd, i believe the installer of anaconda as an example asks for 128 meg ram07:48
GTroyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WG111HowTo?highlight=%28netgear%29%7C%28wg111%2907:48
jennieMy computer is pissing me off I need my yahoo and msn messanger and It won't let me load eather one of them no matter what I go threw07:48
anethemaTylerDurden, you REALLY REALLY do not want to run everything as root07:48
SuseUXVista has a new feature, look it's a new technology called good security by default07:48
anethemayou will have problems07:48
deFryskand txt install does not need all that07:48
jeff_jennie: open up gaim07:48
GTroyup to setup the network interfaces07:48
TylerDurdenanethema, please. just tell me how07:48
jeff_Then add the accounts07:48
jennieI did07:48
GTroyand don't know what to do next07:48
jeff_It is too bloody easy07:48
glyn_where can I get the JRE deb?07:48
anethemajust use that nautilus link i sent you07:48
TylerDurdenim not interested in tips/opinions, im looking for answers07:48
anethemahttp://ubuntuguide.org/#browsefilesfoldersasrootnautilus07:48
TylerDurdenugh, come on07:48
glyn_nm found it07:48
jennieI am a brain dead twit07:48
Severianjennie, use GAIM.  It will talk to those IM networks.07:48
TylerDurdencan someone else please tell me how to transfer one accounts to another?07:48
esac_how can i registery filetypes with nautilus to have them open up with the right program ?07:48
slewnalioth, thanks! it was quite easy after you showed me what to read! have a good one!07:49
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naliothslew: enjoy07:49
Trashcanhas nobody written a graphical interface to dpkg -i yet?07:49
N6REJhey guys, I'd like some help getting my server finished.... I've got it running now, but it has some difficulties.  Number 1, is I have to run in recover mode or when it goes into the GUI it freezes solid.  The video card was changed since install but if I remember right it did it anyway then.  It was initially installed as "server" and then the desktop was added... its breezy.07:49
Trashcanie. double click a .deb and install graphically07:49
deFrysk!tell glyn about javadeb07:49
jennieI got to were I can sign in to it but it says that my account is locked07:49
TylerDurdeni want to make a new account without having to lose all the customization ive done to the curent one07:49
SuseUXTylerDurden, your going againest everything what Linux stands, do you understand what your asking?07:49
jeff_esac: right click on the file. Go to open with. Then type add and type the name of the command you want to use to open it. Then click that program once it shows up07:49
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slewk thanks! cya07:49
_native_just pm me if you have a question. i'll most likley be of help to you07:49
Severianrashcan, how about synaptic?07:49
jeff_Trashcan: There isn't a gui deb installer yet07:49
Trashcanalright07:50
jeff_not for installing from within nautilus07:50
SuseUXTylerDurden, well, do you?07:50
Trashcanare there plans, or a project title you can point me to?07:50
TylerDurdensuseux, forget about security please stop giving me ur opinions and tips07:50
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HobbseeTylerDurden: precisely why are you trying to use linux?07:50
TylerDurdeni want to transfer my current account into another account, now stop doing this and just give me an answer instead of aruging with me07:50
_native_wow thats harsh07:50
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SuseUXTylerDurden, there not opionions, they are the core of what linux is07:50
TylerDurdenwow07:51
jeff_TylerDurden: Are you paying us for support?07:51
TylerDurdenall i have to say is wow07:51
N6REJtyler, linux is not designed to easily do that.07:51
deFryskTylerDurden, I honestly think linspire is the linuxdistro for you07:51
tokyhmm anyone here got oo beta 2 working in hoary?07:51
SeverianTyler, then please leave.07:51
N6REJtyler what parts of your account are you trying to save?07:51
jeff_TylerDurden: If the answer is no, shutup untill you are respectful to people that are helping you for free07:51
Trashcanheh07:51
naliothgentlemen and ladies, let us be civil07:51
kikinovakHi. I'm on dialup, and I wonder if apt-proxy works for Ubuntu also. I have a central server box that's connected to the internet via dialup, and three clients that share the connection. Is apt-proxy known to work more or less painlessly on Ubuntu?07:51
TylerDurdenIM NOT ASKING FOR UR DAMN HELP! ur not evne helping ur just telling me no, dont do that, no u dont wanna do that07:51
Hobbseetoky: yes, what did you wan tto konw?07:51
weiershi, is it advisable to install amaroK on ubuntu hoary Gnome? Or should I just continue with Totem or the other media player that is automatically installed? (A friend of mine is really singing the praises of AmaroK because he can define keyboard shortcuts to control the player while he is working on another desktop. I am not sure if he has KDE or GNOME installed though.)07:51
jennieIs their any other way to get my messengers that are not going to piss me off07:51
GTroyjeff_++07:51
SuseUXTylerDurden, If you dont understand this basic concept then you should not use Linux at all07:51
TylerDurdenim asking for someone else to help me and give me a straight answer and not a stupid u dont wanna do that07:51
deFryskTylerDurden, i think your time is up here07:51
Hobbseeweiers: yes, it's fine07:51
SuseUXshouldn't07:52
tokyi d/l all the rpm chaged them to deb07:52
st1lgarTylerDurden: just copy the user directory and chown the files07:52
N6REJTylerDurden: hey, you want help or you wanna piss people off, I asked you a question.. either answer or get no help from me.07:52
naliothTylerDurden: perhaps you should come back later when there is a different crew in here07:52
tokyi uninstaled 1.1407:52
Hobbseesomeone ban TylerDurden please...07:52
jeff_dont ban +q07:52
Trashcansomeone just answer his question07:52
jennieyour nice07:52
anethemanalioth is watching, he will ban him if he feels its needed07:52
naliothHobbsee: you are so harsh07:52
tokyi did a dpkg -i *.* it finished07:52
glyn_I downloaded the deb files for JRE07:52
_native_damn. (:-}07:52
TylerDurdenstilgar, how do i copy it if im going to log in as someone else? i wont be able to paste07:52
glyn_what do I do with them?07:52
tokybut i cant find the apps07:52
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GTroynalioth: are you around?07:52
anethemaTylerDurden, need the console ;)07:53
anethemasudo cp -r ~ /root/07:53
TylerDurdenwhats the command?07:53
deFryskglyn, sudo dpkg -i <thedebfile>07:53
N6REJTylerDurden: what is it you are really trying to accomplish, whats the point?07:53
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Trashcanthere ya go07:53
st1lgarTylerDurden: like anethema said :)07:53
TylerDurdenwow n6rej, please dont help me07:53
Trashcanyup07:53
TylerDurdenok here let me explain07:53
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weiersThanks Hobbsee07:53
Trashcantyler: anethema just told you exactly what you need to do07:53
jeff_OP OP OP! +q TylerDurden07:53
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Trashcan+q?07:54
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anethemaadios :)07:54
Trashcannow that's a mode I've never seen07:54
jeff_http://www.dslreports.com/faq/803707:54
naliothtritium: wow when did you sneak in?07:54
anethematritium, you de-opped him07:54
Trashcanah07:54
anethemahaha07:54
DiskgrindI have installed accessability features, the magnifier and screen reader, I can start the properties interface but I can start the magnifier or screen reader  can anyone help???07:54
Trashcanthanks jeff07:54
tritiumnalioth, just now07:54
tokyHobbsee: u there?07:54
SuseUXat last07:54
jeff_np07:54
tritiumanethema, heh, yeah ;)07:54
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Hobbseetoky: yes07:54
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kikinovakI guess my question about apt-proxy got lost in the middle of a hot flame war...07:54
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tokyHobbsee: sry07:54
Hobbseetoky: it's ok, everything was being lost in the middle of that flame war07:55
N6REJok, now that they excitement has died down can anyone help me reconfigure the desktop so it works instead of freezing?07:55
Trashcanhehe07:55
tokyHobbsee: LOL true07:55
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Hobbseehehe07:55
Hobbseeugh, not again!07:55
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logikalanyone want to try to help me with a problem?07:55
Trashcanlol07:55
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kikinovakHi. I'm on dialup, and I wonder if apt-proxy works for Ubuntu also. I have a central server box that's connected to the internet via dialup, and three clients that share the connection. Is apt-proxy known to work more or less painlessly on Ubuntu?07:55
weiersHobbsee, if I want to play stuff like wma's and mp3's I suppose I need to install the amaroK Xine? Or is it Gstreamer?07:55
logikalhttp://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/38669207:55
naliothHobbsee: be civil07:55
jeff_thanks tritium07:55
frank_bHi all. Question: will I get better results from my ATI Radeon 9250 SE 128 MB graphic card if I use it under Windows than in GNU/Linux?07:55
naliothweiers: you need w32codecs first07:55
frank_b(is it woth to install Windows also?)07:56
weiersnalioth, I think I have them because I have been playing them on Totem07:56
kikinovakfrank_b: use mac os x07:56
tokyHobbsee: concentrate on me.... that might help u for a bit ....07:56
Severianweiers, there are many choices.  I use beep or xmms07:56
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Hobbseetoky: sure, what did you want to know?07:56
frank_bkikinovak, I have an Intel x86 computer07:56
tokyHobbsee: i d/l all the rpm for oo beta 2, i changed them to deb07:56
Trashcanpersonally I would say go with windows for gaming07:56
tokyHobbsee: i uninstalled 1.1407:57
TrashcanI'm not speaking for everyone, but that seems the obvious choice07:57
anethemayeah, cedega works for most stuff though07:57
Hobbseetoky: right07:57
kikinovakfrank_b: it was a joke... well it's like asking the pope if he wants to party on a satanist night07:57
Hobbseeand now you want to know how to install it?07:57
frank_bthanks Trashcan07:57
tokyHobbsee: i ran a dpkg -i *.*07:57
N6REJHobbsee: I need some more help please07:57
anethematoky, just install the oo 2 from debs07:57
anethemait is in apt07:57
frank_bkikinovak, ah... ok :)07:57
GTroyanyone help me with a really easy walk through?07:57
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tritiumtoky, there are openoffice.org2 debs07:57
anethemainstalling from rpms might not be as nice07:57
Hobbseeoo2 from debs is very old07:57
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jeff_Hobsee: not on breezy :)07:57
HobbseeJeff_: well, it's not the RC of it07:58
kikinovakfrank_b: that said... ati card works wonderfully on my ibook:oD07:58
kikinovakLOL07:58
Hobbseebut you're right07:58
weiersSeverian, is there any particular reason why you prefer xmms or beep above AmaroK?07:58
tokywell the thing is that after running that command i cant find any oo apps07:58
frank_bcedega has some problems07:58
anethemabeep is the best07:58
anethemai find07:58
anethemalove beep07:58
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jeff_Hobsee: I run breezy so that I can send in bug reports07:58
TylerDurdentritium07:58
_native_beep is good07:58
TylerDurdenwhy did you do that?07:58
SuseUXAmarok is great but tooo big07:58
tritiumTylerDurden, be respectful07:58
jeff_Plus, breezy is soooo much better than hoary07:59
TylerDurdeni was, nre6j wasnt, i asked for help, he just kept saying dont do that, dont do that07:59
SuseUXjust like KDE :-)07:59
frank_bkikinovak, it works fine in my Ubuntu... I just don't know *how* fine, beause I don't have a term of comparison with Windows..07:59
TylerDurdeni wanted an answer07:59
naliothTylerDurden: you may wish to return later when there are different people here who can answer your question07:59
anethemaTylerDurden, you were yelling and beeing generally mean to ppl07:59
Severianweiers, One feature mostly.  I like to be  able to use the arrow keys to fast forward or reverse a little.07:59
TylerDurdenand then you abnned me07:59
N6REJEXCUSE ME???????????????????? you better check your logs bud!!07:59
glyn_quiet07:59
anethemai asnwered your entire question anyways durden07:59
naliothN6REJ: be civil, please07:59
N6REJcc07:59
tritiumTylerDurden, you've been rather demanding and rude.  Be respectful, or you won't last07:59
Hobbseejeff_: very true, did you know how to answer the other question?07:59
Ramahfight fight fight fight fight07:59
TylerDurdenok please, can someone help me by giving me an answer instead of saying u dont wanna login as root?07:59
tokyso, would this command install it??  dpkg -i  ?07:59
anethema1.9.129 is what the OO.o is in breezy07:59
N6REJ*zip*07:59
TylerDurdenanthema07:59
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TylerDurdeni cannot go to that link07:59
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TylerDurdeni dont have firefox anymore, that is why i need root08:00
naliothTylerDurden: they are trying to protect themselves08:00
jeff_Hobbsee: Which question?08:00
Jedricki have error installing gaim-vv08:00
anethemawhats gaim-vv again?08:00
Hobbseetoky: cd to the directory, sudo dpkg -i *.deb08:00
frank_bbye all. thanks.08:00
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Jedrickchecking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp .. configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check08:00
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tokyHobbsee: i ran a dpkg -i *.*08:00
anethemai dont have gaim-vv in my apt :(08:00
jeff_gaim-vv == gaim with experimental webcam video support08:00
Severianweiers, but I have Amarok on a couple of machine and use it sometimes when I am going to bed.08:00
Hobbseejeff_: toky's question, about openoffice2.org and installing it, and get menu options from it08:00
tokyHobbsee: would that work?08:00
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anethemaneeds to be compiled im sure08:00
N6REJnalioth sorry, I get a bit peeved when I get accused for something I didn't do.08:00
fr500TylerDurden, did your firefox break in the latest update?08:01
Hobbseetoky: if you were in the correct directory, it should have08:01
TylerDurdenanethema, i need root for several reasons it doesnt matter, one of them is because i want to install firefox in /usr instead of somewhere else. now i cant go to the link you gave me becasue i uninstalled firefox08:01
naliothN6REJ: water under the bridge, friend08:01
GTroyon this page I'm up to setup network interfaces, and then I'm lost.  can anyone help?https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WG111HowTo?highlight=%28netgear%29%7C%28wg111%2908:01
Hobbseeit would have given you an error message if it didnd08:01
tokyHobbsee: well i was08:01
Hobbsee*didnt08:01
TylerDurdenno it didnt, i uninstalled it on purpose, too many problems with it08:01
jeff_Hobsee: well depending on what version of Ubuntu and which version of fedora those rpms were compiled for, they might not even be binary compatible08:01
Hobbseeit should be installed08:01
weiersSeverian, somebody recommended Amarok to me because he said it would allow me to configure keyboard short cuts to skip songs or go back, and to control volume etc. Would beep or XMMS be able to do that?  My biggest need though is to find a player that makes it easy for me to set up playlists. I feel that the media player that comes by default with ubuntu is too obnoxious. It somehow sorted through my music and set up its own playlists (lik08:01
weierse windows media player), but I really don't know what is happening there.08:01
tritiumTylerDurden, you don't want the ubuntu firefox package?08:01
anethemawhat does it matter where firefox installs? the config files are all in your home dir08:01
tokyHobbsee: let me redo it08:01
jeff_Hobbsee: Meaning he never could get it to run without installing some ugly compat libraries08:01
_native_synaptic-> search-> firefox08:01
N6REJnalioth: cc... hey, you got time to help me finish the server 2nite?  the logon gui is broke.. it freezes on bootup, unless I'm in recover mode.08:01
anethemaroot or not the debian package wont work for you because it doesnt install to where you want it08:01
TylerDurdennot the default one, i want a fresh install of firefox, i uninstalled firefox that came with ubuntu and tried installing firefox from the website, now i have the installer but i want to install it in /usr, but i cant cuz im not root08:02
_native_use sudo08:02
_native_tyler08:02
anethemahaha08:02
glyn_I installed the .deb version of Java and when I try to load a java thing on a page it says exception:java.lang.NullPointerException08:02
TylerDurdenmy head hurts already08:02
ztrikkerUse synaptic to download firefox again, then you can view the link08:02
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TylerDurdenone simple questions, please, i really really need one simple answer. how do i make user x (root or someone else) have the exact same settings as user b(tylerdurden)08:03
Hobbseetoky: check thru there http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30866&page=31&highlight=openoffice08:03
jeff_TylerDurden: sudo apt-get install firefox. If you need to reinstall it, sudo apt-get install -reinstall firefox08:03
Severianweiers, xmms has good playlist support.  I have never tried beep for that.  Actually I just started using beep a couple of days ago and I like it.  By using lirc, xmms is supposed to have good support for remote controls.08:03
anethemaTylerDurden, run this command08:03
jeff_the ubuntu version works well08:03
anethemasudo cp -r ~ /root/08:03
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anethemathen set your root password08:03
anethemathen login as root08:03
anethemadone08:03
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TylerDurdeni know it does but i just want to use the firefox installer from their website. PLEASE just give me the answer to that question and ill go away already08:03
TylerDurdenanethema, i got that08:03
anethemaok so what else do you need08:04
anethemathats all, done08:04
jeff_TylerDurden: Use the backports if you want the newest version on hoary08:04
TylerDurdenbut the thing is ive done so much customizing on tylerdurden, i dont want to start over as root and customize everything again08:04
anethemayou doint have to08:04
anethemathat cp file fixes it08:04
netlover08:04
anethemacopies all your settings to root08:04
TylerDurdenoh really?08:04
eythianTylerDurden, no matter where you install firefox, it'll pick up the customisations.08:04
TylerDurdenok great, cuz u didnt tell me what that command really does08:04
_native_cp -rf usershomedir08:04
naliothTylerDurden: you want to be root all the time and dont know what these things do?08:04
glyn_when I try to load something that requires java it says applet client notinited and then it just stops08:05
netlover08:05
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weiersOk, thanks Severian, I'll play around with AmaroK and then at some stage I will certainly try beep and xmms (used xmms on my previous Mandrake install). I just need advice to decide what engine to install with the player. If I remember, when I installed the w32 codecs I had to change from gstreamer to xine, so I suppose I need to do the same with AmaroK from the start.08:05
_native_cp= copy -rf = all and force08:05
SuseUXnight, night all08:05
Severianweiers, xmms has keyboard shoetcuts for next song, as well.  I never wanted to do that, but I see they exist.08:05
glyn_I just installed the JRE from a .deb file after trying a .bin file08:05
TylerDurdennot this again, ok i did that command hopefuly it works08:05
glyn_neither one of them are working08:05
glyn_what do I do?08:05
_native_man = manual pages08:05
naliothweiers: gstreamer works pretty good overall08:05
_native_;-P08:05
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N6REJ+q?08:05
TylerDurdenthere was no need to question me, i just wanted an answer08:05
netloveris there a china support man?08:05
TylerDurdenbye now08:05
_native_woah there.08:06
tritiumTylerDurden, please be nice.  Often, to find out how to answer a question best, we have to ask a few additional questions.08:06
jeff_something everyone who wants to listen to music on ubuntu should do. Enable the universe & multiverse repositories. Then install gstreamer0.8-plugins08:06
Severiangstreamer has its own package to add mp3 support.   something mad.  Look on the wiki for the RestrictedFormats page.08:06
jeff_That installs all of the mp3, xvid, etc support08:06
glyn_going on over 30 minutes of trying to install Java08:06
TylerDurdentritum, im not sure you were here before when this all started. i asked a question of how i can be root at all times, and these guys just kept telling me OVER AND OVER "u dont need to be root" "its insecure" "u dont know anyhting about linux" when all i wanted was just one answer08:06
jeff_gstreamer0.8-plugins installs all of the plugins, including gstreamer0.8-mad08:07
naliothglyn_: did you not say you had no space?08:07
anethema!es08:07
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:07
TylerDurdenok now i got my answer sudo cp -r ~ /root/ thats it, ty08:07
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jeff_TylerDurden: It is called logs, everything you type is logged for anyone else to read08:07
naliothjeff_: there is a gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse also08:07
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N6REJI think I'm here on the wrong night... everyones grumpy 2nite08:07
tokycrap08:08
anethemahaha im not :D08:08
N6REJ:P08:08
Jedrickjeff_:  i have error installing gaim-vv08:08
tokyit still wont install08:08
anethemaim one helpfull asshole tonight08:08
anethemahehe08:08
st1lgarlol =))08:08
jeff_nalioth: I honestly dont know if that is a universe or multiverse package. I just assume that because mp3 support is taboo that gst*-mad would be in multiverse08:08
SeverianN6REJ, not me.08:08
TylerDurdenanyway thanks anethema08:08
tritiumTylerDurden, I was here at that time.08:08
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jeff_Jedrick: You're on your own, sorry08:08
st1lgarw000t08:08
naliothjeff_: there are 2 pkgs08:08
ztrikkerglyn_ how far did you get with the bin install?08:08
naliothjeff_: one for OSS and one for multiverse08:08
TylerDurdenim going to try and see if my settings copied over08:08
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tritiumTylerDurden, they were giving you good advice.08:08
weiersthanks nalioth, so I am busy installing amarok with the gstreamer engine now.08:08
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jeff_Thanks08:09
N6REJanyone care to help me get my system going in normal mode  please?08:09
jeff_nalioth: so sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins* would work right?08:09
SeverianN6REJ, what is wrong?08:09
jeff_if both repos were enabled08:09
naliothjeff_: i think you have to call em direct08:10
glyn_yeah I have 0 bytes of disk space08:10
glyn_hehe08:10
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Trashcanhaha08:10
Trashcanwow08:10
naliothglyn_: free up some space and your box will work much better08:10
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Hobbseeglyn_: well that wouldnt help lol08:10
ztrikkerwow08:10
TylerDurdenanthema :( it didnt copy it over08:10
N6REJSeverian: ok, this is a fresh server install of breezy... did the dist upgrades and such, did the desktop-install and now when it reboots into the gui it locks hard.  IF I boot in recovery mode its fine but of course the gui is gone.. not that thats a BIG problem... I have changed video cards since the initial install but I thin it was doing that before I changed cards.08:11
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GTroyhow do you add lines to a file?08:11
jeff_nalioth: I just tried it and the * wildcard worked. thanks08:11
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anethemawhat do you mean08:11
N6REJGTroy: nice name.   <----- Troy08:11
Hobbseegood idea Gtroy08:11
jeff_GTroy: what file for what reason08:11
naliothN6REJ: in a terminal type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver08:11
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arachnistGTroy: echo "contents of a line" >> file08:11
arachnist:>08:11
TylerDurdenthe command you gave me, to copy over user b (tylerdurden) files into root, it didnt work08:11
TylerDurdenroot still has all the default settings08:12
anethemawhat did it say/08:12
anethema?08:12
anethemaahh i dunno08:12
anethemaits not easy to do08:12
glyn_I freed up some disk space and it still tells me "Loading Java Applet Failed"08:12
anethemaall config files should be in there, but who knows08:12
anethemaits MUCh easier to do what you need to do with sudo08:12
naliothglyn_: b/c you didnt have space to install it properly08:12
N6REJnalioth: running it now08:12
anethemabut since you dont wanna do that, good luck08:12
GTroythanks arachnist08:12
ztrikkeryou might need to reinstall java after you free up the space08:12
anethemalike08:12
SeverianN6REJ, do what nalioth said.  It will probably help, unless you have a oddball video card.08:12
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anethematyping sudo <firefox installer> will run it as root08:13
anethemaand can install to /usr08:13
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anethemabut if you are dead set on root stuff TylerDurden cant really help you08:13
anethemaheh08:13
N6REJnalioth: I put a s3 virge in there now and its on the list should I try that first?08:13
N6REJnalioth: that wasn't what was in there before08:13
TylerDurdenok, well what if i want to open a new file in /usr?08:13
naliothN6REJ: VESA WILL drive any video card. you can try waht you like08:13
anethemalike create a text file?08:13
logikalI got a quick question08:14
TylerDurdenwhy do i have to do sudo <complicated command here> when i can just open nautlus and open a new one there, easy08:14
logikalI have this theme i downloaded08:14
N6REJnalioth: ok... ty... brb08:14
logikalit has the files in it,08:14
logikalinstall-kde3.sh08:14
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SeverianWow, an s3 virge is a pretty bad video card.  What else do you have.  I doubt vesa supports that.08:14
anethemai find it much easier to use the console08:14
logikaland another zipped folder full of buttons and images08:14
TylerDurdenim not advanced enough in linux do handle the commands, for now i just want to do it the easy way, once i get my linux book then i cna start learning08:14
anethemabut why dont you just...08:14
naliothTylerDurden: if you insist, "sudo nautilus" twice08:14
tritiumTylerDurden, you can use "sudo -i" to get a shell.  You'll retain priveleges until you exit the shell.08:14
Trashcansame- console is much more... descriptive.. than the interface08:14
anethemaTylerDurden, why dont you just use those links i sent you, to make a root nautilus08:14
TylerDurdenshell is terminal?08:14
N6REJnalioth: should I let it use the frame buffer?08:14
TylerDurdenbecaseu i cant08:14
naliothTylerDurden: yes08:14
TylerDurdenlike i said, i uninstalled firefox08:15
tritiumYou said you knew what you were doing...08:15
TylerDurdenand im trying ot isntall it using the package i downloaded before form getfirefox.com08:15
naliothN6REJ: the only thing you should mess with (imho) is the VESA setting08:15
Severianvesa will not drive any video card.   e.g., it won't worg on an Intel 810, or at least it did not a few months ago when I tried.08:15
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TylerDurdenbut i want to install it to /usr, which i dont have owenr of that08:15
N6REJSeverian: nothing else other then some ancient vlb cards.. all the rest are in use.08:15
TylerDurdenso now im stuck08:15
naliothSeverian: really? i thought all video cards were VESA standard08:15
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glyn_how much free disk space do I need to install Java?08:16
psichronSeverian, vesa works with intel 915. bit of useless info.08:16
TylerDurdenif this account was root i wouldnt even be here now, i could just open a new folder there easily, and be done with it. but i dont want to log in as root because its all the default configs08:16
tritiumTylerDurden, what do you have downloaded?08:16
TylerDurdenfirefox-1.0.7.installer08:16
tritiumTylerDurden, you realize you can enable the root account?08:16
Severiannalioth,  nope.  Most things you find nowdays are.  But, that was not true a few years ago..  The chipsets just did not all include VESA mode support08:17
naliothtritium: TylerDurden was told how to do that08:17
TylerDurdenroot on tylerdurden?08:17
TylerDurdenor LOGIN as root on a different account?08:17
Trashcanhe wants root to have all his gnome settings08:17
tritiumroot is its own account, TylerDurden08:17
psichronTyler, why don't you just use synaptic to install firefox?08:17
ztrikkerthe j2re package is 89.1MB08:17
anethemaTylerDurden, look at the message i sent you08:17
anethemawill make a root nautilus08:17
Trashcanand what's wrong with the default install?08:17
tritiumnalioth, Trashcan I know.  Going over it twice can't hurt ;)08:17
arachnistwhere can i find ubuntu's kernel config? i'm not running ubuntu (not even a linux-kernel based system) and i need a kernel config with which i'll be able to run a system of which i only know it is an ibm with pII 400 and 128MB of ram and intel's network card08:17
psichronrunning in root the whole time is a bad idea08:18
tritiumarachnist, under /boot08:18
TylerDurdensee? tritrun?08:18
psichronget used to operating in a user environment08:18
Severianpsichron, vesa mode works at least since the 845 for Intel video.  I don't know about the 81508:18
tritiumSee what, TylerDurden ?08:18
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TylerDurdeny do u keep telling me its a bad idea and all? i dont really care if it is, its my computer, i just want an answer but i guess im not gonna get it here. reinstall ubuntu for the third time i guess and start over as root08:18
arachnisttritium: i'm not running ubuntu, nor any linux system (freebsd if you're curious)08:18
N6REJare all users allowed to sudo in ubuntu?08:18
caonexanybody here with ndiswrapper08:18
caonex?08:18
psichronSeverian,cool. just thought id say08:18
tritiumarachnist, sorry, didn't read that bit08:19
st1lgarN6REJ: no, only users in admin group08:19
anethemaTylerDurden, why dont you just do what i told you in the message08:19
naliothN6REJ: only the primary and any (s)he designates08:19
Trashcani believe they have to belong to a certain 'admin' group, N6REJ08:19
SeverianN6REJ, See  if there is a plain VGA mode.  It won't be pretty, but it should work.08:19
TylerDurdenanethema i didnt get to read it, one second sorry, too many messeges here08:19
arachnisttritium: all i need is a kernel config that will run on virtually any sane pc08:19
TylerDurdenok ill read it now08:19
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N6REJcrud, I should've trapped that before he got that far.. he put some wierd name in before I could stop'm08:19
anethemaTylerDurden, read it, i explained how to set up a root nautilus icon08:19
N6REJ*sigh*08:19
tritiumarachnist, the source should contain the config file.  You can get it from packages.ubuntu.com08:19
arachnisttritium: thanks :)08:19
tritiumgood luck08:19
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N6REJcan I change who primary is before he gets much further with his install?08:20
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naliothN6REJ: N6REJ you can get on the box when he's not looking and give yourself privs, lol08:20
anethemacan get source for stuff with apt-get source <package)08:20
N6REJnalioth: ok, he made himself the admin LOL turd butt!08:20
tritiumN6REJ, just add any user you want to have sudo priveleges to the admin group08:21
naliothN6REJ: no choice. that's how ubuntu works08:21
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N6REJnalioth: ok.. that should be simple enough...08:21
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N6REJnalioth: I owe you a cup of coffee, s3virge failed :P08:22
ahmedhi08:22
arachnisttritium: ubuntu uses 2.4.27?08:22
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tritiumarachnist, no, 2.6.10 on hoary, 2.6.12 on breezy08:22
naliotharachnist: breezy uses 2.6.1208:22
arachnisthmm08:22
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tritiumarachnist, the source for linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 will have breezy's latest 2.6.12 config file08:23
tritiumarachnist, as should linux-source-2.6.1208:23
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GTroywhat's a "hostname?"08:25
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N6REJok, we need more help... he got his system installed and has gnome running nicely... but now we need to get his belkin 54g wireless nic going... how do we do that?08:25
naliothGTroy: the name of a machine08:25
Severiancandy is a hostname08:25
Ghoatfarmer08:25
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naliothN6REJ: ndiswrapper08:25
TylerDurdenone last question before, i have dual boot, windows is on the newer hdd and ubuntu is on the older, i feel like its a little bit choppy when it comes to opening folders or opening a tab or something, could it be because of the hard drive?08:25
anethemadoubtfull but possible08:26
GTroythank you nalioth08:26
N6REJnalioth: yeah, but how from the desktop,08:26
anethemayou are gonna have to get into the console for NDISWrapper forsure08:26
TylerDurdendoes anyone that use cedega tell me how well it would run compared to native windows?08:26
naliothN6REJ: no known way08:26
TylerDurdenid like to play counter strike source08:26
anethemai use it..its slower but playable08:27
N6REJk, thats np.08:27
anethemaaparently for some poeple it is even faster08:27
TylerDurdenoh, i was hoping to get either the same or better performance08:27
TylerDurdeni wish i could test it08:27
anethemagood luck with that08:27
anethemaheheh08:27
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anethemaits only 5 bux a month08:27
naliothTylerDurden: cedega-cvs is freely available08:27
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anethemaor that08:28
TylerDurdenreally? then y are they charging for something? whats cvs im not sure actually08:28
anethemanot sure if all of cedega is in the cvs or not08:28
naliothanethema: the support is missing from -cvs08:28
anethemaah yeah08:28
N6REJapt-get install ndiswrapper?08:28
melvztechiewere to get cedega free CVS ?08:28
anethemaability to vote08:28
anethemaand point2play08:28
anethemahehe08:28
TylerDurdenoh point2play is what i need08:28
anethemathat aint free forsure08:29
Ramahpoint2play is commerical08:29
TylerDurdenim still new to linux, all console work... i wont be able to do it08:29
anethemano time like the present to learn :)08:29
Ramahtyler: I'm new too.. gotta learn to crawl on the glass before you can run08:29
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anethemait will be a big part of your linux life from now on08:29
tritiumTylerDurden, you've got to learn sometime.  Give it a try.08:29
anethemaconsole is still important in linux08:29
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tritiumYou can do it.08:29
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TylerDurdeni just dont wanna throw away 15 dollars and find out the performance is really bad and i regret i unisntalled windows08:30
deFryskanethema, console will aways be important08:30
anethemayeah, maybe08:30
TylerDurdeni will learn all that, when linux for dummies arrives in a week :P08:30
anethemanot if linux ever wants to beat windows it wont hehe08:30
anethemabut ill always love it :)08:30
TylerDurdeni just wish there were more linux native games08:30
deFryskanethema, the console is a powerfull tool08:30
anethemai know it is08:31
anethemabut noobs dont like it08:31
SeverianThe first thing I do when I start a Linux system is open a terminal window.  But, I do it on Windows, too.08:31
TylerDurdenand console is very confusing, to me its like ms dos.. i dont see the use once yyou got a gui08:31
anethemalinux will go more where OSX is08:31
anethemaconsole is there08:31
anethemabut you dont have to use it to do shi08:31
anethemat08:31
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deFryskanethema, even if everything wil be clickable , the console will still be there08:31
Ramahdoes everyone really memorize all those extensions? the xvfy -s stuff?08:31
anethemai know it will08:31
naliothanethema: are you skating along the edge?08:31
anethemainfact thats what i just said :008:31
anethemaheheh08:31
anethemaskating?08:31
naliothRamah: you get used to them08:31
deFrysk:D08:31
anethemai use the console for everything08:31
anethemahaha08:31
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MadpilotPPCTylerDurden, there is still some stuff that you can only do via console, and there is a fair bit that's actually easier via console...08:32
naliothanethema: language08:32
anethemaoh08:32
anethemahaha08:32
anethemasorry i forgot08:32
anethemagive me a good solid kick if i do it more08:32
anethemai will learn eventually08:32
TylerDurdenhow is typing sudo <folder, file name.sh> easier than double clicking an icon?08:32
anethemabecaust08:32
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anethemawinkey-x opens a console instantly, quicktly rattle off the keys08:32
MadpilotPPCTylerDurden, because sudo is different, and you can't (currently) do sudo stuff thru Nautilus...08:32
anethemai bet i can do this much faster than you can browse thru your directory structures08:33
Sturmflutxhi08:33
gr3mlwhere did ipw2200 module go in breezy? i just dist-upgraded and modprobe/dmesg show it08:33
naliothTylerDurden: you mentioned whallago opening 2 nautilus' to copy and paste. it can be done with one line of text in one terminal window08:33
anethemaMadpilotPPC, you can so08:33
gr3ml.. it's nowhere to be found08:33
anethemayeah08:33
gr3mlthere are two posts on the forums relative to this08:33
anethemaconsole can be much faster for stuff08:33
MadpilotPPCanethema, AFAIK only if you start on the command line and go "sudo nautilus"...08:33
anethemaespecially with bash08:33
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TylerDurdeni still find it easier, i think ill format windows tomorrow and have ubuntu as my main os08:33
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N6REJis ndiswrapper included in the distro?08:33
tritiumTylerDurden, with time you'll find that many things are faster typed, rather than fumbling across the desktop with the mouse08:33
anethemaMadpilotPPC, or make yourself a nautilus icon which is root08:33
TylerDurdenand i guess when ill get linux for dummies itll all be easier08:33
deFryskTylerDurden, cold turky :) good stuff08:33
naliothubotu: tell N6REJ about ndiswrapper08:34
MadpilotPPC!tell TylerDurden about cli08:34
anethemacold turkey is the best08:34
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SturmflutI'm using Breezy RC1 ATM and noticed that on one of two machines the keyboard shows a weird behaviour, all special chars accessed through <AltGr> and german Umlauts won't work08:34
RamahI quit smoking cold turkey... its better cold turkey08:34
anethemaheheh08:34
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MadpilotPPCTylerDurden, the msg ubotu just sent you has a couple of useful URLs for introducing the console08:34
TylerDurdenam i missing something? whats cold turky?08:34
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anethemadeleting windows08:34
anethemajust going linux right off the bat08:34
TylerDurdenthanks madpilotppc08:34
anethemano back and forth stuff to 'get used to it'08:34
deFryskTylerDurden, kicking the habit08:34
tritiumTylerDurden, it's a figure of speech for stopping something immediately, rather than gradually.08:34
gr3mlanyone, anyone?  missing ipw2200 module in breezy?08:35
Ramahlol I'm running linux within virtual pc under windows xp08:35
Ramahheh08:35
tritiumgr3ml, nope, using it right now08:35
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TylerDurdenwell im gonna go now, thanks for links and all08:35
anethemagood luck08:35
SturmflutHm the AltGr key just behaves like Alt, strange08:35
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anethemaand remember a little politeness goes a long ways08:35
Ramahits the only way I can irc, websurf, listen to music, and play with linux at the same time08:35
SturmflutAt least bash interprets it like that08:36
tritiumSturmflut, what does that Gr stand for?08:36
anethemaRamah, i do that all very well without vpc thanks :P :)08:36
N6REJnalioth: ty, I"ll follow that.08:36
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Ramahwell... I am installing linux from scratch from the book, its my first time08:36
Ramahthis makes it alot easier for me08:36
RamahI also get alot less done :)08:37
gr3mltritium:  find /lib/modules/2.6.13.3 | grep ipw2200 shows a result?08:37
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naliothRamah: vpc is the best way to do lfs08:37
tritiumgr3ml, breezy does not have 2.6.1308:37
Ramahya I'm glad I'm doing it like this... omg08:37
gr3mlso how did dist-upgrade put me at 2.6.13.3?08:37
Ramahall the little problems I've run into08:37
Ramahthough the compile times are really sucking08:37
johnsie2help..... iwas playing slune and can't close it... it's sucking all my resources08:37
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bitjetry pkill -9 slue08:38
JedrickHow to install Glib?08:38
anethemaslune? killall slune?08:38
anethemaheheh08:38
naliothJedrick: you have it already08:38
Jedricki think i dont have08:38
Sturmfluttritium: It is a key on my german pc105 keyboard that allows me to access some characters that are mapped on keys with multiple mappings. E.g. <Shift>+"<" gives me ">" and <AltGr>+"<" would give me the pipe symbol08:38
naliothJedrick: you system wont work w/o it08:38
anethemaoomlaut!08:39
anethemaich gehe gern eins kino!08:39
Sturmflutlol08:39
anethemahaha08:39
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anethemashould have payed more attention in german lessons08:39
anethemai forgot most of it08:39
anethemahaha08:39
naliothanethema: mlaut?08:39
anethemathats the one :D08:39
johnsie2thanks :-)08:39
Jedrickhere:  Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...08:39
Jedrick*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the08:39
Jedrick*** exact error that occurred. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.08:39
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tritiumSturmflut, thanks.  I have a UK keyboard on this laptop, and I am not familiar with that AltGr key08:40
naliothJedrick: please dont paste in here08:40
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johnsie2altgr is on a uk keybaords :-p08:40
johnsie2it's on mine :-p08:40
deFryskhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key08:40
naliothJedrick: open synaptic and search for glib -dev08:40
Jedrickok08:40
johnsie2ooooo new updates08:40
tritiumthanks, deFrysk :)08:40
Ramahnano- how long did it take you to do lfs, did you have alot of experience?08:40
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gr3mlwhen ubuntu installs performs a dist upgrade, does it populate grub's menu.lst with links to all the resident kernels in boot?08:41
Jedricknalioth: i dont find any glib -dev08:41
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tritiumyes, gr3ml08:41
naliothJedrick: hoary or breezy?08:41
anethemagr3ml, it just adds a entry for the new kernel08:41
Jedrickbreezy08:42
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anethemanot tounching old entries08:42
Lasherhey people08:42
johnsie2I downloaded breezy this week... do i need to do anything on 13th Oct?08:42
Sturmfluttritium: I have three machines running Breezy RC1 now and two of them have pc105 keyboards. The other works fine, this one doesn't, I already tried to just copy over the configuration or re-reun dpkg-configure xserver-xorg and create a new config. It works on console but does not work in X, regardless of window manager and application08:42
Hobbseehey Lasher :)08:42
gr3mltritium:  that explains my problem - it was booting an old, miscompiled kernel i had left in boot.   I suppose that'll force me to keep /boot clean08:42
_native_im getting "bad transport" blah blah when trying to use helix player to watch realmedia stuff.08:42
xuniluserHelp: Why is that in my panel below, i can't see the applications currently running?08:42
tritiumgr3ml, ah, okay08:42
nalioths_dogJedrick, install this libglib2.0-dev08:42
deFryskjohnsie2, just update08:42
Jedrickok08:43
deFryskthatsit08:43
johnsie2using software updates?08:43
deFryskjohnsie2, yup08:43
johnsie2k thnaks08:43
_native_i have no firewall running when this occurs i installed the provided helixplayer in the ubuntu distroo.08:43
tritiumSturmflut, are you using gnome?  Did you try the keyboard configuration applet?08:43
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SeverianWhen my breezy system starts up without a monitor, it comes up in 640 x 480 resolution.  Is there a way to make it stick to 800 x 600?  I access it through VNC, normally.08:44
johnsie2I'm getting an error messagein Sowftare updates..... E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:44
naliothjohnsie2: close all your apt instances08:44
_native_my monitor dose that too.08:44
oxezanyone got a windows xp icon (the logo), in png?08:44
anethemaSeverian, go into your resolution things and make 800x600 the default08:44
anethemamight work08:44
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LasherHey Hobbsee, do I need to configure the DCHP when I install or not?08:44
anethemaresolution menu08:44
_native_that dose not help08:44
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Hobbseeit should autoconfigure08:45
deFryskoxez, ?08:45
Severiananathema, nope.  I tried that.08:45
Lasherit doesn't...08:45
NsOmNiAcany Ubuntu sound experts here ?08:45
anethemadoh sorry08:45
_native_me too08:45
Lasheractually, it doesn't find anything08:45
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oxezdeFrysk: I'm just creating a launcher to winxp through qemu08:45
Lasherwould it matter if I'm using a wireless network?08:45
Trash[sleep] 23:44:53 up 6 days,  2:35,  2 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.27, 0.2708:45
deFryskoxez, perhaps make a png of it using gimp ?08:45
Trash[sleep] anyone know why it says 2 users?08:45
Hobbseeah yes, that would, i think that means it hasnt recognised your wireless card08:46
_native_yes its because08:46
Trash[sleep] 'users' shows 'matt matt'08:46
_native_there always will be processes08:46
_native_that run as root08:46
oxezdeFrysk: I don't have any source image :/08:46
johnsie2thanks again :-)08:46
oxeznvm08:46
CountDownHow does Ubuntu automagically handle USB-to-serial converters.  That is, what is the mechanism by which a USB-to-serial converter shows up in /dev?08:46
deFryskoxez, oic08:46
_native_so that shows up as a user08:46
Trash[sleep] ok08:46
Trash[sleep] thanks08:46
Trash[sleep] night08:46
_native_later08:46
Hobbsee*raises eyebrows* for some reason, my top says there are 0 users08:47
oxezdeFrysk: images.google.ca, sorry I forgot08:47
Hobbseewhen there clearly are 2!08:47
gr3mlis it intentional that breezy left oo 1.1.5 around while also installing 1.9.x?  Can I safely remove all the 1.1.5 bung?08:47
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Trash[sleep] 6 days on a p3 with a quarter gig of ram08:47
Trash[sleep] can barely do that on xp08:47
Trash[sleep] ;)08:47
Sturmfluttritium: I' using KDE. I just tried to change keyboard layout throuth the control center and the Applet says "Error while changing the keyboard layout to de", interesting08:47
Jedricknalioth: now i get this error * Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...08:47
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Hobbseegr3ml: yes, you can remove it08:47
Jedrickhow to install GTK08:47
xuniluserHow do i reload my desktop items like my panel and the rest?08:47
deFryskgr3ml, yes08:48
xuniluserJedrick: apt-get install gtk08:48
tritiumSturmflut, I'm not a kde user.  Not sure what to suggest.08:48
Jedrickgot this error  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:48
_native_peace peoples............08:49
JedrickE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:49
N6REJnalioth: when I go to network settings I see a modem interface setting which he doesn't have but no nic08:49
zakamehi all! :D08:49
Hobbseehi zakame!08:49
Lasherhow long does it usually take when you manually select the partition table size for Ubuntu to install?08:49
Sturmfluttritium: I suspect there is a general problem with the key layouts, maybe they're missing or so. I'll have a look08:49
Hobbseeum...a min or so?  sometimes more, sometimes less08:49
Ramahnalioth: you around?08:49
SeverianJedrick, do you have Synaptic open while you are trying that from the terminal prompt?08:49
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Jedrickyes08:50
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anethemathats what the error means :)08:50
SeverianYou must close Synaptic.  Really, you must.08:50
Jedricki close it now but still got this error E: Couldn't find package GTK08:50
anethemacan only have one apt thin goin at once08:50
naliothJedrick: close all your apt instances08:50
zakameLasher: that depends mostly on your hardware08:50
naliothRamah: yes08:50
LasherI have an AMD6408:50
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Lasherbut the HD sucks08:50
naliothN6REJ: ndiswrapper is out of my area (i run macintosh hardware and ubuntu)08:50
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anethemawhats GTX08:50
anethemathere is no GTX in apt08:51
anethemaMPGTX though08:51
anethemaToolbox to manipulate MPEG files (video, system, and audio)08:51
zakameapt-cache search gtk*08:51
N6REJnalioth: NUTS!!  I don't want to have to run cat5 cable across the house08:51
Lasherzakame: is it normal for it to stay on the blue screen for more than 2-3 minutes?08:51
anethemaoh gtk08:51
johnsie2when i click on gIFT the windows disapears08:51
SeverianN6REJ, that is  the right attitude.  You should use cat608:52
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naliothN6REJ: they do make those selfcontained wireless boxes that ethernet connects to the computer08:52
zakameLasher: by blue screen I assume just a totally blue screen, with nothing on it?08:52
Jedricktrying to do, sudo apt-get install gtk  but got this erro E: Couldn't find package GTK08:52
johnsie2errr.. when i click the icon for gIFT is wont start up,,, the gui just disappears08:52
anethemabecause its more than just gtk08:52
naliothJedrick: using terminal or synaptic?08:52
Lasherwell, no, there's a bar at the bottom and a black ansi square in the left bottom corner08:52
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Shin_Goukigood morning! ubuntu community!08:53
Jedrickterminal08:53
Lasherhello shin08:53
zakameLasher: can you do Alt+F3 and tell me what's on the screen?08:53
johnsie2mornin08:53
zakameShin_Gouki: heya!08:53
Shin_Goukiwhat language may be best to create Shell scritps?08:53
deFryskwow08:53
LasherI'm not currently inside ubuntu08:53
deFryska happy camper08:53
naliothJedrick: type "apt-cache search gtk"08:53
Jedrickok08:53
Shin_Goukiwow Jedrick also still here#08:53
Lasherzakame: I was installing ubuntu08:53
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zakameLasher: yes, I noticed :)08:54
anethemaJedrick, its libgtk2.0-008:54
anethemasudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-008:54
Jedrickok08:54
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anethemathere is more too it tho08:54
Lasherzakame: so, just let it run?08:54
anethematons of gtk parts08:54
anethemaand glib08:54
zakameLasher: that's why I'm asking the previous question...08:54
Jedrickbut i have it already08:54
gr3mlthanks all08:54
anethemalibgtk2.0-bin for example08:54
Jedricksaid i already have the newest version08:55
anethemaso what are you up to ? :)08:55
Jedrickit says gtk08:55
anethemamaybe you need libgtk2.0-dev if stuff is complainging when you try to compile08:55
anethemawhat are you trying to do08:55
Jedricktrying to install gaim-vv08:55
anethemacompile it?08:55
Lasherbrb08:56
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anethemainstall libgtk2.0-dev then08:56
zakameJedrick: apt-get -y install libgtk2.0-dev08:56
Jedrickok08:56
Jedrickits installing now08:56
SeverianJedrick, are you on Hoary or Breezy?08:56
Jedrickhope this is the one08:56
Jedrickbreezy08:56
anethemaif its asking for stuff during compiule08:57
anethemathe -dev is what you need08:57
FejiksoHello. I've got a quick question: I'm currently testing the 5.04 live-cd. Is there any way of saving all my settings to an usbdrive?08:57
zakameJedrick: are you building gaim-vv from source?08:57
tritium-y should not be needed08:57
anethemayeah no -y08:57
anethemahehe08:57
Jedrickzakame: dunno08:57
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zakametritium: -y was there so as to prevent the prompting, but yeah, its optional08:58
tritiumzakame, not always wise, though08:58
anethemaprompting can be good08:58
anethemayeah08:58
anethemaspecially for a noob08:58
SeverianI think it is libgtk1.2   not libgtk208:58
anethemaSeverian, no08:58
anethemaheheh08:58
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anethema2 is the default in breezy anyways08:58
zakameanethema: indeed08:58
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SeverianThey are both there.  Is  breezy where the switchover is happening?08:59
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pbutteris anyone here using breezy?08:59
anethemai certainly am08:59
anethemahehe08:59
pbuttercan someone help me with a problem i am having?08:59
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Severianlot of people are using breezy09:00
anethemapbutter, dont ask that09:00
anethemajust ask your question09:00
anethemaif someone knows they will answer09:00
pbutteri did all the updates and everything, but now when i try to apt-get stuff, i get errors saying source package blah blah blah, and it says i should do an update09:00
pbutterbut i get errors at the end of the update as well09:00
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pbutter i think my sources list is messed up, but i have tried several09:00
anethemause pastebin.com to show us errors09:00
pbutteris there  aplace where i can get a sure fired great sources list for breeezy09:00
anethemasure, mine haha09:00
pbuttererrors, after i try the update09:00
PrimoTurbois it possible to play with cvscedega and have a mount game play?09:00
pbutteror after i just try to install something09:00
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anethemahttp://pastebin.com/38688509:01
anethemathat should work for you09:01
anethemathats a normal breezy source list with all normal repos enabled09:02
pbutterhttp://pastebin.com/38688609:02
anethemathere are no backports for breezy09:02
anethemajust use mine that i showed you09:03
anethemahttp://pastebin.com/38688509:03
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pbutterits so messed up09:05
pbutteri gotta delete all them numbers09:06
anethemanumbers?09:06
zakamenumbers?!?09:06
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anethemaheheh09:06
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anethemathose numbers arent even selectable for me09:06
anethemathe line numbers on pastebin09:06
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pbutterthey were for me, its no biggie tho, i deleted them09:07
pbutterhave you guys ever heard of a program called easy ubuntu?09:07
pbutteri am new to this, and i am having a difficult time finding out how to download and install stuff, like gdesklets for example, i have no idea how to make that all work, and i want to do cool things with my desktop09:07
MadpilotPPC!+synaptic09:08
ubotuit has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto09:08
anethemajust open synaptic09:08
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anethemasearch for what you want, and install it09:08
MadpilotPPCpbutter, see ubotu above for a Synaptic howto09:08
anethemathen run the command 'killall gnome-panel' to refresh your menus09:08
anethemait will be there09:08
anethemahehe09:08
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Jedricknow i got this error. *** GStreamer is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the09:09
DrCrankenHi guys , Can anyone help me with my Ubuntu install on Apple powerbook09:09
anethemahave the...09:09
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Lasherhello09:10
pbutterthat will show me how to install progs and stuff?09:11
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anethemaJedrick, i imagine you need libgstreamer0.8-dev09:11
Jedrickok09:11
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MadpilotPPCpbutter, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto09:11
Lasherok, so, I pick manually edit partition, I see my ide1 with a black smiley face, which I read is ok, then I have to at least use 23.4 GB, and then it will write to disk....and then I'm good to go?09:11
Jedrickwhat does lib stands for?09:11
anethemaand probably libgstreamer0.809:12
GTroywhat steps do I take to install firefox 1.5 beta 2 on breezy?09:12
anethemawho knows09:12
anethemahehe09:12
anethemalib means its a library09:12
seth_k|lappyJedrick, library09:12
Jedrickowhh09:12
GTroydoes anyone have a link?09:12
DrCrankenanyone know what to put in bootx to get this thing to boot after install09:12
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johnsie2if i type sudo apt-get install freedoom09:13
johnsie2..... where toes it install doom to?09:13
Ofe!fi09:13
ubotuI heard fi is "Suomalaiset: Suomea puhutaan kanavalla #ubuntu-fi"09:13
tritiumjohnsie2, dpkg -L <packagename> to see where the files are09:13
GTroy!firefox 1.5 breezy09:14
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, GTroy09:14
GTroyman I'm new09:14
HobbseeGTroy: i'd also like to know that09:14
Shin_Goukihey good morning Hobsee :)09:14
MadpilotPPCjohnsie2, what happens when you type "freedoom" at the prompt?09:14
GTroyuh how to install 1.5 firefox on breezy badger?09:14
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Shin_Goukihey good morning Hobbsee :) my might OO helper ^^09:14
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Hobbseemorning Shin_Gouki09:14
Hobbseelol09:14
Hobbseedid it ever get working?09:15
Shin_GoukiGTroy , its simply09:15
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Shin_Goukidownload , the file from mozilla unack and run it :)09:15
DrCranken anyone help with Mac install?09:15
johnsie2no suck file or directorty09:15
Shin_GoukiHobbsee, yes all worked what u said me09:15
Hobbseeoh good!09:15
Jedrickdude i still revieve the error, checking for   gstreamer-0.8 >= 0.8   gstreamer-control-0.8 >= 0.8   gstreamer-interfaces-0.8 >= 0.8... configure: error:09:15
GTroy29Thanks Shin_Gouki09:15
nalioth_zZzDrCranken: ask09:15
GTroy29though I can't seem to download it09:15
Jedricki mean recieve09:15
Shin_GoukiHobbsee, BUT i would need shell shortcuts for the stand alone applications: calc , writer, impress09:16
HobbseeGtroy: you're looking to get firefox 1.5 beta 2 to get shortcuts and all that?09:16
Hobbseetrue09:16
GTroy29yeah Hobbsee09:16
Shin_GoukiHobbsee, ATM i only casn start "OO" via shell09:16
DrCrankeni cant boot after install, bootx09:16
Hobbseefor some reason, that part seems botched09:16
tritiumJedrick, you have libgstreamer0.8-dev installed?09:16
Jedrickyes09:16
nalioth_zZzDrCranken: did you follow the wiki?09:16
DrCrankenyes09:16
Shin_Goukithe FF 1.5 is cool native SVG!!!09:16
HobbseeShin_Gouki: there's a howto at ubuntuforums.org where they were trying to figure it out09:17
Hobbseesearch for that, and see if it helps09:17
Shin_Goukiok thx!09:17
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nalioth_zZzDrCranken: so your initrd and all that rot are on your os9/hfs+ partition?09:17
Hobbseei found running the debian menu deb again got me the menus09:17
HobbseeGTroy29: when you find out, tell me too09:17
GTroy29hmmm09:17
Shin_Goukii create Icewm menus on my own its cool, but u have to know were the OO executables are (NO not in use/bin)09:18
GTroywill do if I ever find it09:18
DrCrankeni got it to install fine , but now it wont boot to hda1009:18
Jedrickdude i still revieve the error, checking for   gstreamer-0.8 >= 0.8   gstreamer-control-0.8 >= 0.8   gstreamer-interfaces-0.8 >= 0.8... configure: error: i already installed the libgstreamer0.8-dev09:18
Shin_GoukiGTroy29, plz explain a bit in detail waht u want i run FF 1.509:18
nalioth_zZzJedrick: do you have all your repos enabled?09:18
GTroy29uhmm flash09:18
tritiumnice show on INHD now :)09:18
Jedrickyes09:18
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HobbseeShin_Gouki: we want the menu shortcuts and all that for the beta firefox09:19
johnsie2if i type sudo apt-get install kde will i get kde?09:19
DrCrankenwhat do i need in bootx ?09:19
Shin_GoukiGTroy29, only flash?09:19
popeyGTroy: flash works in ff 1.0.x09:19
Hobbseejohnsie2: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and you will :)09:19
GTroy29I guess everything ff 1.5 does on my osx09:19
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johnsie2is that safe lol.... i mean gnome works just fine09:19
Shin_GoukiGTroy29, i guess the plugin specs changed .. they didnt yet finalize it for 3rd party like marcomedia09:19
Hobbseejohnsie2: well, you'll get more apps to use, and a different DE to try, so it's completely your choice09:20
GTroy29oh...ok09:20
anethemaok im goin to sleep..hope i helped some ppl! haha night all09:20
johnsie2what desktop will come up at staup?09:20
johnsie2startup?09:20
nalioth_zZzJedrick: install ALL gstreamer pkgs. problem solved09:20
johnsie2and is there t way to choose?09:20
MadpilotPPCjohnsie2, Gnome. And KDE apps will run fine in Gnome, and vice/verse09:20
MadpilotPPC*versa09:21
Jedricklol.. ok :)09:21
nalioth_zZzDrCranken: this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs is very well written. it tells you all you need to do09:21
vengeful_gnome is default09:21
nalioth_zZznight all09:21
Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz, may ber u can help me, i want to write some kind of"batch" file were do input may mount commands at once, which language would be best, pearl , C? or am i totoly wrong?09:21
johnsie2well what do you guys think?09:21
nalioth_zZzShin_Gouki: english?09:21
johnsie2in terms of which is best09:22
vengeful_hehe why do you need c/perl for a batch file?09:22
Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz, haha i mean SCRIPt language ;)09:22
Shin_Goukiyes09:22
johnsie2personal opinion :-)09:22
nalioth_zZzShin_Gouki: i write my batch stuff in english09:22
Shin_Goukivengeful_, how u write batch fikles?09:22
Shin_Goukii dont know how to?09:22
vengeful_johnsie2, i like xfce409:22
Yetr2Shin_Gouki, use bash scripting09:22
nalioth_zZzShin_Gouki: ask uncle google about "bash scripting howto"09:22
Shin_GoukiYetr2, thx u have tutorial , syntax site?09:22
vengeful_well the only time i ever wrote batch files was in plain english ;-)09:22
Shin_Goukithx!!09:22
Severianvengeful, are you testing xubuntu?09:22
MadpilotPPCjohnsie2, I like Gnome; KDE looks too much like WinXP for my taste... <shrug>09:23
DrCrankennalioth, I got it installed and it said to set up bootx to boot root=/dev/hda10 . but that doesent work, I tried to follow the instructions but im a newbie i guess?09:23
nalioth_zZzMadpilotPPC: you seen xpde?09:23
johnsie2i think I'll stick with what I've got09:23
Shin_GoukiKDE is evil09:23
Yetr2don't need on09:23
Shin_Gouki^^09:23
Yetr2one09:23
vengeful_severian...i installed xfce4 on ubuntu...if that makes me testing xubuntu i dunno :-)09:23
MadpilotPPCnalioth_zZz, what's that?09:23
Yetr2you know those commands you type to mount your things Shin_Gouki ?09:23
nalioth_zZzDrCranken: perhaps. i'll be back tomorrow morning, or you can ask in ##apple09:23
Yetr2thats considered bash scripting09:23
Shin_GoukiYetr2, yes i know them09:23
nalioth_zZzMadpilotPPC: www.xpde.com09:23
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DrCrankenok thanks09:24
Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz, is there a ubuntu lite channel?09:24
nalioth_zZzShin_Gouki: you are in it09:24
Severianno, xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce as its native desktop.  Like kubuntu is to kde.09:24
Shin_Goukiwow ok ^^09:24
Yetr2#!/bin/bash09:24
boneeanyone have a good list of Ubuntu repository09:24
Yetr2mount /dev/hda1 /bobo09:24
nalioth_zZzShin_Gouki: you might try #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to talk about elephants or automobiles09:24
Yetr2theres a script for bash right there...09:24
vengeful_nabh i installed ubuntuand use xfce09:24
nalioth_zZzubotu: tell bonee about sources09:24
Yetr2of course you could just add the entries to your fstab file and have them automounted upon boot09:25
Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz, ur always so funny ^^i want to talk about ubuntu-lite09:25
nalioth_zZzShin_Gouki: i never heard of it09:25
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Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz, in the wikipedia it says: its a WIP version of ubutnu for "small" hardware so i wanted to help09:25
MadpilotPPCnalioth_zZz, interesting... how are they not getting sued by MS, I wonder?09:26
johnsie2xpde looks scary09:26
johnsie2anyone actually used it?09:26
IceDC571MadpilotPPC: how is the breezy livecd for ppc, is it stable?09:26
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Shin_Goukijohnsie2, i use icewm i like it09:26
commodorehi09:26
MadpilotPPCIceDC571, this is a Hoary install, and it's not actually my computer... sorry09:26
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IceDC571okay09:26
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nalioth_zZzMadpilotPPC: read the FAQ09:27
Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz, its strange!"09:27
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Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz, can u read german? its only in the german wikipedia not in the eng -us09:28
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Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz, here http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu09:28
punkdhi09:28
punkdgo09:28
nalioth_zZzShin_Gouki: ich verstehen deutch09:28
Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz, then click on "abwandlungen" which means varieties09:29
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nalioth_zZzMadpilotPPC: it kinda pisses me off, cuz they only offer a damned i386 binary (xpde)09:29
nalioth_zZzShin_Gouki: ja ja09:29
Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz, there are ubuntu "mods" listed one of theose seems to be : "ubutnu-lite"09:29
brownie17can anybody tell me how to run the FIXMBR tool on the windows xp professional cd?09:29
nalioth_zZzbrownie17: where you been?09:29
Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz, so i thought it might exist , but if u never heard of it then it doensn't exsit ^^09:30
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brownie17nalioth_zZz, why? what did i miss?09:30
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enycbrow: recovery console...  are you having a boot problem?09:30
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johnsie2will... sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop... wipe over gnome?09:30
brownie17enyc, yes, windows xp isn't appearing in grub. something to do with the partition name changing09:30
enycbrownie17: trying to install ubuntu after moving/deleting a previously-needed-for-booting linux partition?09:30
nalioth_zZzjohnsie2: they coexist09:30
tritiumjohnsie2, no09:30
brownie17johnsie2, nope09:30
Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz, u told me u never heard of it :)09:30
enycaah well fixmbr may lose access to grub09:31
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johnsie2so how do i run either one?09:31
enycyou would want to change /boot/grub/grub.conf [maybe /boot/grub/menu.lst] 09:31
brownie17enyc, i know, i am going ot restore grub afterwarsd09:31
nalioth_zZzjohnsie2: at your login, under "sessions" you'll have a choice09:31
seth_k|lappyenyc, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or some name like that09:31
enycaah kk09:31
enycwell brownie17 , goto 'recovery console'09:31
nalioth_zZzShin_Gouki: you told me and i asked uncle google09:31
MadpilotPPCShin_Gouki, I think it's www.ubuntulite.org - ask google if that URL doesn't work...09:32
brownie17enyc, if you know anything about grub and the fdisk, please help me restore my windows xp partition the easy way if you can09:32
enycthis will [artifical limitation with the proprietary loader]  need admini~1 password09:32
nalioth_zZzMadpilotPPC: <ahem> ^^^^09:32
Shin_Goukinalioth_zZz, its ok i now got what i wanted AND u to know that there is such thing :)09:32
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commodoreextra repositories aren't working, ubuntu is useless for me currently, i want to install multimedia codecs! I can't do it without extra repositories09:32
nalioth_zZzcommodore: sure you can. enable universe and multiverse09:33
MadpilotPPCnalioth_zZz, blah... it's late, and I obviously need to get off IRC... ;)09:33
Shin_Goukiyes u both should get to sleep09:33
nalioth_zZzMadpilotPPC: way past my bedtime, too09:33
Hobbseelol09:33
commodorenalioth_zZz: what are those?09:33
Hobbseesleep?09:33
Shin_Goukiin germany its morning but it must be late at ur side!09:33
Shin_Gouki:D09:33
nalioth_zZzubotu: tell commodore about sources09:33
nalioth_zZzShin_Gouki: utc -6 here09:34
MadpilotPPCShin_Gouki, 0030 here now...09:34
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JedrickHow can i view webcams on gaim?09:36
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mypapitJedrick, use gaim-vv09:36
tritiumJedrick, you cannot09:36
Shin_Gouki^^09:36
NsOmNiAcgaim-vv still in testing but you can09:36
Jedricki already have gaim-vv09:36
Shin_Goukiis gaim also VoIP rdy?09:36
tritiumJedrick, did you build it?09:36
Jedrickdont know09:36
Jedricki think not yet09:37
Jedrickhow to build it?09:37
tritiumJedrick, weren't you in the process of doing that?09:37
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commodoreubotu: what do i do with the stuff you gave me? paste it at sources.list?09:38
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, commodore09:38
tritiumcommodore, ubotu is a bot09:38
MadpilotPPC!+ubotu09:38
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:38
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zxsykco!bong09:38
ubotuzxsykco: I give up, what is it?09:38
commodore:D fuck i'm stupid09:38
Shin_Goukicommodore, i may help u explain to me what u want to do? view avis? Videos?09:38
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Jedrickoops i forgot to install it.. i tot after configure its done.. :p09:38
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commodorefck09:39
albackerguys, where can i find avi's plugins.. to play avi files in totem09:39
tritiumcommodore, language please09:39
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Yetr2make09:39
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MadpilotPPC!tell albacker about restricted09:39
Yetr2make install09:39
tritiumuse checkinstall09:40
Lashercan someone please help me with setting up a correct partition?09:40
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Jedrickey man i already install the gaim-vv but still cant view webcams09:40
Yetr2yeah.. check install wuold be best09:40
Yetr2err checkinstall09:40
commodorei want extra repositories, the ones at ubuntuguide.org aren't working, the bot gave me a link to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 but i don't know what to do with it, paste it at sources.list?09:40
kemikcommodore:  and remove the #09:41
kemikfor the repos you want09:41
kemik!ubuntuguide09:41
ubotuhmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.09:41
tritiumJedrick, you're running gaim-vv now?  You built it, installed it, and ran it?09:41
Jedricki installed it09:41
Jedrickhow to run it?09:41
commodoredo i have to replace something or just paste it at the end?09:41
tritiumJedrick, are you sure?  You ran make, and then make install?09:42
kemikdepends on what's in your sources.list ... but you might as well replace it09:42
commodorei made a backup so i'll try just replacing09:42
Shin_Goukicommodore, yes try to edit ur sources-list09:42
kemikdont forget apt-get update09:42
Shin_Goukicommodore, no09:42
Shin_Goukicommodore, at the end09:42
Jedrickye i do make install09:42
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Shin_Goukicommodore, try not to replayce, backup fule is good idea09:43
Nermallo lo09:43
tritiumJedrick, if you're sure...09:43
nalioth_zZzJedrick: use "checkinstall" instead of 'make install'09:43
Nermalis there a way to prevent a module getting loaded at boot? like a module blacklist ?09:43
Jedrickok09:43
nalioth_zZzubotu: tell Jedrick about checkinstall09:43
tritiumNermal, yep09:43
Lashercan someone please help me with setting up a correct partition?09:43
tritiumnalioth_zZz, I already suggested that09:43
nalioth_zZznight y'all09:43
tritiumnight09:43
albackerguys, when booting i got this error : FATAL ext3 modul not found.. but the boot procces went ok. is there anything wrong ?09:43
commodoreshin_gouki you're late :D but i have backup thank god09:44
tritiumNermal, /etc/hotplug/blacklist09:44
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Nermaltritium: thankyou :)09:44
tritium:)09:44
SeverianLasher, what do you need?09:44
commodoreit still doesn't work it gives me this error:09:45
kemikShin_Gouki:  he might as well replace since it's the official repositorie09:45
kemiks09:45
kemikcommodore:  dont paste09:45
albackerguys when doing apt-get update i got this error :09:45
commodorefuck i couldn't copy the error09:45
albackerW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90709:45
albackerW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems09:45
kemikDONT PASTE here...09:45
albackerwhat to do ?09:45
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Pexi_hi09:45
commodorei didnt paste09:45
cowbudalbacker: apt-get -f install try that..09:45
CapSoftlo folks09:45
kemikcommodore:  use pastebin09:45
LasherSeverian: I can't get Ubuntu to install on the same drive as my windows xp09:45
CapSoftwhen will breezy be out?09:45
albackercowbud, nothing happens09:45
albackereverything looks ok09:45
CapSofti heared coming thursday????09:45
kemikalbacker:  trying to use debian repositories ?09:45
Pexi_i will download ubuntu next week. is it easy to install?09:46
kemikCapSoft:  seems about right.. 13th09:46
albackerkemik, yes just for getting some plugins ..09:46
cowbudalbacker: try apt-get upgrade after you did that..09:46
SeverianLasher,  how big is the disk.  What partitions are there now?09:46
CapSoftk thanks kernik09:46
tritiumcommodore, no cursing please!09:46
albackercowbud, nothing happens, everything looks ok09:46
LasherSeverian: 80gb, 1 partition (WinXp Pro)09:46
cowbudalbacker: as in you dont have the error anymore?09:46
CapSoftso will it be smart to install a pc this weekend with 5.04 ???????????09:46
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commodoresorry09:47
commodorehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/286409:47
albackercowbud, if i do apt-get update i get that error..09:47
CapSoftor should i wait.... till thursday?09:47
cowbudpaste the full error again09:47
brownie17enyc, back09:47
brownie17enyc, pm?09:47
CapSoftis it easy to update 5.04 to breezy?09:47
kemikCapSoft:  you can upgrade to breezy.. or just install breezy now09:47
SeverianLasher, how big is the WinXP(Ugh) partition.    Friends don't let friends use Windows XP.09:47
CapSoftcan breezy allready be installed?09:47
kemikCapSoft:  i'd probably download the latest breezy and install09:47
Shin_Goukiwhat shell command lists my CPU type?09:47
CapSoftis it stable then kernik?09:47
Severiancat /proc/cpuinfo09:48
Shin_Goukithx!09:48
Lasherhaha09:48
kemikCapSoft:  still fixing a few bugs, but id say nothing critical is left (?) ... i mean 5days before stable release, it should be OK09:48
commodoresynaptic gives me this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/286409:48
cowbudanyone who doesnt like firefly isnt a computer geek09:48
CapSoftindeed09:48
Lasher80gb...I have to have WinXp Pro for work.09:48
CapSoftur right09:48
CapSoftnice09:48
CapSoftomg...09:48
CapSofti really love ubuntu09:48
commodoreextra repositories aren't working, ubuntu is useless09:48
CapSoftso user friendly09:48
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CapSoftso good for a noob like me :D09:48
commodorei'll burn my ubuntu cd-s09:48
kemikcommodore:  no, you're doing something wrong09:48
commodore:D09:48
islawhelllowww09:48
commodorei know i'm doing something wrong09:49
SeverianOK, you need to use Oartition magic or something similar to shrink the Windows partition first.  You have no free space.09:49
commodorei'm just angry don't listen to me, ubuntu rules!09:49
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CapSofttrue commodore09:49
islawjust nstall ubuntu and trying some apps...09:49
melvztechieheheh09:49
melvztechiecool09:49
brownie17what happened to enyc, he was talking a minute ago, now he's idle again09:50
islawso... any bugs yet that i may know...hehehe09:50
SeverianLasher, I meant Partition Magic09:50
CapSoftkemik this one is good right : http://stuwww.uvt.nl/ubuntu/breezy/ latest version in NL mirror ok?09:50
commodoresomeone please copy their whole sources.list and paste it at pastebin or send the file to me09:50
commodorePLEASE09:50
Shin_Goukiohoh09:50
Shin_Goukiwhat did u do?09:50
CapSoftsources.list... i had some problems with that one too in the beginning....09:50
CapSoftsome repositories didn't work09:51
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Frenchtoasthey09:51
Lasherwhen I was trying it earlier, it would only let me use a minimum of 23.4 GB, is that right or after I use Partition Magic on it should it fix that in the Ubuntu install?09:51
brownie17commodore, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/286509:51
Frenchtoastis ubuntu easier to use than windows?09:51
CapSoftlo Frenchtoast09:51
islawi noticed that ubuntu has no support for mp3s and mpgs... is this true09:52
Frenchtoastis is better and faster than mandrake?09:52
CapSoftubuntu rules09:52
CapSoftand is easy to use09:52
calcislaw: install totem-xine package and you can play nearly anything09:52
CapSoftand brownie17 does those all work? you can find all packages?09:52
commodorebrownie it still doesn't work09:53
dhonnit boots pretty quick09:53
islawthanx calc... i'll do that09:53
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SeverianLasher, you need 3 or 4  gig for a good Ubuntu install.  But the more you take from XP, the better.  And the more you want to do with Ubuntu, the more you will need.09:53
melvztechieguys, any HOW-TO for installing PHP09:53
brownie17CapSoft, which packages, i wasn'09:53
brownie17CapSoft, just feeling sorry for him09:53
CapSoftmelvztechie apt-get install php09:53
CapSoftlol09:53
melvztechiesorry, newbie here;)09:53
Shin_Goukiwhat shell command lists my motherboard/chipset infos?09:53
CapSofti started like that not long ago09:54
calcShin_Gouki: lspci09:54
CapSofti am kinda noob aswell09:54
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calcShin_Gouki: dmidecode09:54
Shin_Goukicalc, not quite09:54
Shin_Goukiright thats better :)09:54
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Shin_GoukiO_O09:54
cypa09:54
melvztechieReading package lists... Done09:54
melvztechieBuilding dependency tree... Done09:54
melvztechieE: Couldn't find package php09:54
Shin_Goukithats lots of infos09:54
SeverianLasher, A couple of the things you say don't seem consistent.  Can you run fdisk, print the partition table and post that on pastebin.com?09:54
cypahi09:55
calcmelvztechie: use apt-cache search to find what you want09:55
melvztechieCapSoft: i got this error? whats next to do?09:55
Yetr2I don't suppose there is a way to limit apt's download speed09:55
commodorei'm still waiting for a source.list09:55
cypawhere can I get mplayer package fo Hoary09:55
commodorea working onw09:55
cypa?09:55
commodoreone*09:55
SeverianYetr2, use a slower network connection, maybe?09:56
CapSoftcommodore some one posted it on pastebin 5 minutes ago09:56
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CapSoftand melvztechie what error?09:56
melvztechiewhats the command for checking if certain packages is installed? tnks09:56
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Yetr2Severian, ....09:56
CapSoftow i C09:56
CapSoftapt-cache search php09:56
LasherOk, let me try to clarify09:56
melvztechieCapsoft: I tried apt-get install php09:56
commodoreCapSoft: i said i'm looking for a WORKING one09:56
tritiummelvztechie, apt-cache search php will show you that php5 exists09:57
Shin_Goukiwhat shell command to get some infos about my harddisk ( i mean vendor etc..)09:57
SeverianMore seriously, I can throttle a machine in my router.  Can't everyone?09:57
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CapSoftmelvztechie http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/18/1541252&tid=190&tid=90&tid=10609:57
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calcYetr2: you can probably throttle the bandwidth via iptables to the site that apt is downloading from09:57
CapSoftFirst, when I "apt-get install" Apache2, PHP, and Mysql, and then check out PHP, it says that PHP wasn't compiled with the mysql module. (see the thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28241 [ubuntuforums.org] ) Having to recompile that is a PITA.09:57
calcYetr2: not sure if you can throttle the app itself directly though09:58
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LasherI tried installing before using Partition Magic or, rather, taking space away from the original partition.  When I tried to install Ubuntu, it said that I had to "Manually resize the partition" and it would only let me make a separate size of a minimum of 23.4 GB09:58
Yetr2so... in other words, the makers of apt never thought of adding an option to throttle download...09:58
cypaHello!!!???09:58
trekremGO TO SLEEP!!!09:58
CapSoftlol09:58
trekremlater everyone09:58
calcYetr2: most network apps outside of p2p apps don't have throttle support09:58
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Yetr2wget09:58
Shin_Goukicalc09:58
CapSoftMLDONKEY RULEESSSS09:58
cypaplease, what about mplayer repositary?09:58
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calcShin_Gouki: hdparm09:59
Shin_Goukiin wondows there is an application its called: netlimiter u can edit ALL network traffic of ALL plps on the PC09:59
CapSoftcypa can't ya search it in apt-cache ?09:59
Shin_Goukithere must be a linux derivate09:59
cypaor single MPlayer package09:59
cypawhere can I get it?09:59
CapSofttry to search for gmplayer09:59
Yetr2I'm sure there's a ulimit I could set somewhere for it..09:59
commodorei still can't get repos working09:59
CapSoftsince that one has GUI09:59
CapSoftor something09:59
CapSoftor build from source09:59
cypaI have searched and there is not09:59
Shin_Goukicalc, thx :)09:59
tritiumcypa, yes there is09:59
cypaI've search with Synaptic09:59
calcdig around in netfilter modules there may be some way to filter based on per app, but i doubt it09:59
tritium!info mplayer-58610:00
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB10:00
nickrudcypa, mplayer is in the multiverse repository; you need to enable it10:00
commodoreif anyone has his list working, and his running hoary, then please, PLEASE paste your WHOLE i mean WHOLE list at pastebin10:00
commodorethank you10:00
NsOmNiAcgonna try this again10:00
cypayes, ... will check again10:00
SeverianLasher, it  sounds like you don't have the disk space free when Ubuntu started its install.  I a\probably can't help.  I don't do dual boot.  I just set up another machine.  I've got 20 or so computers at home.10:01
Yetr2nope... ulimit has nothing on bandwidth10:01
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GTroy29whoops I tried to download FF 1.5 beta 2 and now no browsers work10:01
SeverianLasher, I will look at your partition table if you post it.  That, I can do.10:02
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Ghoatare these chats logged anywhere in a permanent, publically accessable database online?10:02
commodoreok i'm going away now10:03
nickrudcommodore, a good sources.list is at paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3810:03
NermalGTroy29: what bug was fixed in that version that required you to upgrade ?10:03
nickrudeh10:03
OfeGhoat: you mean this? from topic "Channel Logs - http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs"10:03
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melvztechieReading package lists... Done10:03
melvztechieBuilding dependency tree... Done10:03
melvztechieE: Couldn't find package php10:03
melvztechiehello10:03
melvztechie?10:03
GTroy29none, I just wanted to upgrade frm 1.06 to 1.510:03
Ghoatofe:let me check it out, thanks10:04
Seveasmelvztechie, apt-cache search php10:04
calcmelvztechie: so why haven't you used apt-cache search yet like i mentioned to you? :)10:04
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hettar_hello. The bittorrent tracker for the ubuntu/kubuntu torrents is giving permission denied.10:04
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flashhello10:04
hettar_calc, and was there any response ?10:05
cypanickrud, wowld you point me correct multiuniverse repositary string for sources.list file?10:05
Shin_Goukihello , flash10:05
tritiummelvztechie, I already told you about php510:05
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nickrudcypa, if you simply replace your current sources.list with the one I cited, you will have the correct multiverse line10:06
nickrudor lines, that is10:07
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xophErwhats the difference between libgl1-xorg and libgl1-mesa?10:07
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cypathanks10:08
NsOmNiAccould use a little help with sound .. ESD looks to be working fine and so does Alsa ... xmms reflects the file is playing with hertz but no output both Alsa and ESD show output but nothing any ideas ?10:08
nickrudxophEr, from the description of libgl1-xorg, " The only difference between libgl1-xorg and libgl1-mesa is that libgl1-mesa10:08
nickrud is currently not capable of direct rendering.10:08
nickrud"10:08
NsOmNiAcfound this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753 followed it but still no output on sound10:09
SeverianOpen your mixer and turn up the volume.  That is a common problem.10:10
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nickrudI just booted up for the first time in a while (power failure) and my hand-crafted menu.lst disappeared ;( anyone have any ideas why?10:11
Shin_GoukiSeverian, :d10:11
NsOmNiAcSeverian trying it in VLC as well not working there either10:12
nickrudum, breezy.10:12
SeverianDid you look at a mixer.  VLC is a player.10:12
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hettar_NsOmNiAc, What card ?10:13
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NsOmNiAcSoundBlaster10:13
hettar_hmm shouldn't have problems with that.10:14
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NsOmNiAcnope older machine p310:14
tritiumnickrud, did you edit it outside of the automagically-generated section?10:14
Shin_Goukihi someone of ubuntu "goverment " is here?10:14
xophErnickrud, can you tell me what direct rendering is then? :)10:14
nickrudI'm not sure; when I re-wrote it I did make a point of doing that this time.10:15
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nickrudmainly though, I didn't have the xp stanza in the new one.10:15
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LasherSeverian, what do I need to do in partition magic to make my windows partition smaller so I have free space?10:15
nickrudxophEr, direct rendering is fast 3d10:15
NsOmNiActhought maybe it was the speakers themself and plugged them into another machine they work fine10:16
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sobersabreis there the latest skype package for breezy ?10:16
Shin_GoukiNsOmNiAc, hello , what are u trin to do?10:16
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sobersabre(there's been qt3 package name issue with vanilla skype deb )10:16
NsOmNiAcShin_Gouki: trying to find out why I'm getting no output on my speakers10:16
Shin_GoukiNsOmNiAc, Sound card: ISA or PCI?10:17
sobersabreNsOmNiAc, which card do you have ?10:17
NsOmNiAcPCI10:17
sobersabrechipset .... ?10:17
Nermallspci10:17
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carambolsomebody can point me to a manual for installing jre?10:18
Shin_GoukiNsOmNiAc, type at shell: lspci10:18
carambolin breezy10:18
NsOmNiAcwhere do you want me to paste it10:18
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sobersabreskype breezy users....is the latest skype available ?10:18
Korgancarambol: Include the metaverse in your sources.list and you can install it via apt10:18
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carambolmultiverse?10:18
Shin_GoukiNsOmNiAc, go to topic of this channel there is a "pasteBin" do u knwo how to use?10:19
NsOmNiAcgot it10:19
Shin_Goukikk10:19
xophErnickrud, so 3d-performance is better with libgl1-xorg or what are you trying to say?10:19
KorganErrr yes... Sorry. Cross polinating :)10:19
carambolKorgan: u mean multiverse10:19
NsOmNiAchttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/286610:19
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KorganOnce you have the Multiverse enabled, you can install it from the Add/Remove Programs app10:19
binalo10:19
SeverianLasher, In Partition Magic, you first select the partition.  Then you get a little slider bar that lets you shrink the partition.  You should shrink it as much as you can spare.  Like I said, a minimum would be 3 or 4 gig, but 20 would be better.  Then you apply it.  I would recommend a backup before you start, in case of problems.  PM is pretty reliable, but you should not count on it.10:20
sobersabreNsOmNiAc, lsmod | grep es137110:20
sobersabredo you have it loaded ?10:20
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NsOmNiAcno response10:20
NsOmNiAcberkowitz:nsomniac~ % lsmod | grep es137110:21
NsOmNiAcberkowitz:nsomniac~ %10:21
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nickrudxophEr, yes; you can look at http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ for more info10:21
Shin_Goukithat means it worked?10:21
Shin_Goukisominac10:21
sobersabreNsOmNiAc, maybe u need to run it via sudo.10:21
xophErok, thanks10:21
carambolKorgan: no install candidate10:21
carambolKorgan: i am in Breezy10:21
NsOmNiAcstill nothing but it's on my system10:21
Korgancarambol, Have a look in the Add/Remove Programs list... Thats where I found it in Breezy for an easy install10:21
Hendricim really having a big problem with samba.. how can i remove AUTHENTICATION and allow me to browse network PCs without hassle????10:22
caramboli take a look10:22
KorganGive me a sec and I'll have a look in Synaptic for its name10:22
sobersabreNsOmNiAc, you need to see what's the name of es1371 module10:22
sobersabrerun:10:22
NsOmNiAchttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/286710:22
sobersabresudo modprobe -l | grep es137110:22
NsOmNiAc../lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/oss/es1371.ko10:22
sobersabreok...10:23
sobersabreyou don't have an ALSA driver ...10:23
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sobersabrevery very strange10:24
Shin_Goukiif its PCI a.. ALSA should work ..or?10:24
sobersabrerun sudo alsaconf10:24
sobersabreNsOmNiAc, r u there ?10:24
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NsOmNiAcyeahhh still here10:24
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NsOmNiAcit loads Alsa at bootup10:24
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Shin_Goukigood!10:24
SeverianHendrick, there are several settings to change.  But first, is your environment secure?  If not, removing authentication may be bad.10:24
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Korgancarambol, Package name is 'j2re1.4'10:25
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caramboltnx,Korgan10:25
HendricSeverian, i'm only using it on my own small network here.. no need for security..10:25
Korgannp10:25
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NsOmNiAcit's in etc10:26
johnsie2hi... while installing kubuntu It has asked me to select a default display manager.... if i chnage that to kde can i chnage it back later?10:26
tonyyarussoI seem to have lost my cdrom drive.  If I try to mount it, I get an error saying special device /dev/scd0 does not exist.  How can I correct this?10:26
HendricSeverian, i want it to act like the crappy windows network neighborhood... is that possible?10:26
KorganAnyone know why after installing 3 nics in a machine, setting up their params in /etc/network/interfaces and then rebooting, only eth0 gets enabled at boot and I have to manually enable eth1 and eth2 using ifconfig?10:26
spiralhi10:26
Severianif you are sure, I'll show you some lines to add to /etc/samba/smb.conf.  Just a moment.10:26
KorganThis is on a Hoary install10:26
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Shin_GoukiKorgan , may be IRQ config problem..10:27
HendricSeveas, cool. thanks.10:27
SeverianHendick, I won't respond to messages with that kind of language.10:27
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KorganShin_Gouki, I thought that, except they're all PCI cards and they all work fine once I manually 'ifconfig $iface up' them10:27
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johnsie2how do i chnage my default desktop manager if i have kde and gnome and ever want to chnage between the 2?10:27
Shin_GoukiKorgan, write bash script then , so it does "your" config ALWAYS at startup..?10:28
Hendricwrong tab. :(10:28
sobersabreNsOmNiAc, sorry!10:28
tonyyarussoPossibly by manually adding the special device /dev/scd0?  Can I do that?10:28
sobersabreyou should grep for: ens137110:28
nickrudjohnsie2, when you login, you can choose either kde or gnome under 'session', and it should ask if you want to make the new choice the default10:28
KorganShin_Gouki, That should happen in /etc/network/interfaces though. I shouldn't need to do it manually or in a seperate init script.10:28
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NsOmNiAcsobersabre : it's located /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.ko10:29
johnsie2i have a blue screen whiole installing kde asking me which one i want to be default...10:29
sobersabreNsOmNiAc, can you run: sudo lsmod | grep ens137110:29
sobersabre ?10:29
Korgan/etc/init.d/networking should ifup -a all 3 nics and use the settings in /etc/network/interfaces to apply them. :|10:29
sobersabredo you have it loaded ?10:29
KorganHas got me a little perplexed.10:29
nickrudjohnsie2, no problem, you can change it later at the login screen10:29
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johnsie2if i make one default and chnage my mind can i chnage back?10:30
vengeful_yes10:30
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Korganjohnsie2, Yup. Any time using the Session menu at the GDM login screen10:30
NsOmNiAchttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/286810:30
vengeful_anytime you change it at login screen it will ask you if ya wanna make it default10:30
NsOmNiAcerrr sobersabre : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2868 sorry10:30
johnsie2ok thanks10:30
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sobersabreNsOmNiAc, so, it is loaded.10:31
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sobersabreyou need to play with the mixer.10:31
NsOmNiAcsobersabre ... yeahh sure is10:31
sobersabreplug the speakers to "line-out" socket.10:31
sobersabreand run via console "alsamixer"10:31
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sobersabreyou will probably see some things muted  ( with "M" )10:31
sobersabrepress "m" on them, and play with faders..10:32
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sobersabreeventually it should work.10:32
sobersabreduring all this you should play a sound file ( to make sure there's sound playing )_10:32
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Shin_Goukiright10:32
Shin_Goukisobersabre, are u common with XMMS?10:33
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sobersabreShin_Gouki, what's the q. ?!?!?!10:34
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NsOmNiAcok the sounds on alot of these were way down never used this before10:34
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NsOmNiAchow can I get out of alsamixer and save ?10:34
sobersabresave by pressing "s" i think10:35
sobersabreand pressing escape exits10:35
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Shin_Goukisobersabre, there is a plugin which has no ubuntu DIRECt supportr so i need to compile,10:35
NsOmNiAcok levels are up ... I shouldn't have to reboot though right ?10:35
sobersabrewoops. NsOmNiAc you should exit and then run man alsactl10:35
sobersabrei don't remember.10:36
Shin_Goukisobersabre, i mangaed to get through most of the stuff but there is one thing left i, ll make u a paste bin sec"10:36
sobersabreor run as root: /10:36
gasherguys can i join10:36
vengeful_bit t10:36
vengeful_bit late to ask10:36
vengeful_hehe10:36
gasherhelp10:36
gasherhelp10:36
vengeful_what do you need help with?10:36
NsOmNiAcI'm not sure why it would need a reboot10:36
NsOmNiAcbut why not10:36
NsOmNiAcbrb10:37
nickrudgasher, ask, maybe there's an answer :)10:37
gasherkeyboard layout10:37
Severiangasher, can you be  a bit more specific?10:37
sobersabreShin_Gouki, what plugin is it ?10:37
Severiangasher, you should have one of those.  Next question.10:38
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johnsie2i dragged an icon onto my gnome panel and now every time it refreshes i get an error message "failed to load image msn.png"10:38
gasherthe keyboard layout was in america10:38
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gasherand i ve change to belgium10:38
johnsie2"icon not found"10:38
nickrudgasher, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data10:39
Shin_Goukisobersabre, its OpenSPC10:39
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Severiangasher     System/Preferences/Keyboard10:39
mojohi every1, I need some serious advice about how to make my console higher resolution? (my LCD is 1280x1024), I have read many HOWTO but none helped me out, please help me10:39
Severiangasher, do you understand?10:40
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z|banditohi10:40
z|banditois there an AIM compatible voip chat for *nix?10:40
mojo....10:41
enyczban: no idea, do aim developers provide the neecssary specifidations [?] 10:41
z|banditowell ichat on osx is compatible10:41
mojoany1 can help me out how to change to higher resolution for my console screen?10:41
enyczban: ichat is non-free software iirc10:41
sobersabreShin_Gouki, what does it do ? ( sorry you can msg off chan )10:41
gasheryep10:41
nickrudgasher, Severian's answer is better than mine :)10:42
kestasmojo, without using a framebuffer you cant get a higher console resolution10:42
gasherbut dpkg-reconfigure console-date10:42
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gashergive package console-data is not install10:42
Syrusshow can I downgrade a package?10:43
Severiangasher, are you running gnome?10:43
NsOmNiAcsobersabre : no luck10:44
NsOmNiAcbugger10:44
z|banditoyeah i chat isn't free.. dunno what the spec is though10:44
mojokestas: does Ubuntu Hoary come with kernel support framebuffer? or can i dpkg-reconfigure xserver to enable them?10:44
NsOmNiAcit's weird .. video plays .. it looks like it's trying to play the sound10:44
NsOmNiAcmaybe it's my card10:44
gasherafter change keyboard model need also to be changed@severian10:45
gasheryep10:45
sobersabreNsOmNiAc, if the card played once - it WORKS.10:46
Severiangasher, I am sorry, but I don't understand that.10:46
sobersabreNsOmNiAc, there's more to do with sound than to setup the card.10:46
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sobersabrerun alsamixer and see if the settings are ok.10:46
gasherseverian at the keyboard preferences10:47
sobersabreif not, you need to set it properly and then, upon exit the mixer run alsactl as root and store the configuration10:47
johnsie2i dragged an icon onto my gnome panel and now every time it refreshes i get an error message "failed to load image msn.png... icon not found"10:47
NsOmNiAcyeahh but thing is .. at one point in time it worked fine10:47
NsOmNiActhen like a week ago stopped playing all together10:48
Severiangasher, yes, you should change the keyboard preferences.  Did you see where I showed you where to do that?10:48
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margehi10:48
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gasherseverian yep10:48
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gasherseverian i am now there10:48
Hoxzerhi10:48
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Hoxzeris there any way to get Gnome Display setting back to normal10:49
sobersabreNsOmNiAc, this means you've introduced some kind of change into the system.10:49
gasheri have changed it but the problem pertain10:49
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Severiangasher, at the top of your screen, there is a System menu.  Pull that down and select Preferences.  Choose Keyboard in that list.  A program will start and you want the Layout tab.10:49
HoxzerI acidently edited file /etc/ld.so.conf and I even edited it back to normal but display manager wont start10:49
Shin_Goukisobersabre, are u still there?10:49
SeverianDid you reboot after the change, gasher?10:49
NsOmNiAcI haven't done anything with sound though .... that's what's throwing me off10:49
Shin_Goukisobersabre, i made a paste bin could u please take a look?10:49
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makuhi all, i'm planning to buy a WiFi lan card for my PC. Which ones are supported on Ubuntu? Any recommendations?10:50
johnsie2is there any way I can edit my gnome-panel through the file systen?10:50
gasheryep10:50
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Shin_Goukisobersabre, there u go: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/286910:50
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Hoxzerdamn10:50
johnsie2I have a Belkin USB wireless WAN card10:50
Hoxzernobody knows?10:50
Hoxzerwell I guess I have to reinstall then10:50
Hoxzer:(10:50
Hoxzersucks10:50
sobersabreShin_Gouki, there's debian package for OpenSPC10:50
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Severianjohnsie2, if b is ok with you, then a Prism2 card is best supported.10:51
jimcooncathi, just loaded breezy-pr live cd. How do I access my lvm partitions? ro is ok.10:51
Pajjcan anyone tell me where all the applications are? I just installed ubuntu and I can't really find my way around in the file explorer10:51
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Shin_Goukisobersabre, i tried to isntall it the channel told me: ARE U CRAZY U WILL KILL UR SYSTEM10:51
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Shin_Goukisobersabre, plz take ur time read through its all in the paste bin but ull need about 5 mins10:51
Shin_Goukisobersabre, take ur time!10:51
Hackerany hackers in the room10:51
jimcooncatPajj, instead of using the file manager, use the Applications menu at the top of the screen10:51
Severiangasher, what problem do you see?  Did the keyboard mappings change at all?10:51
makujohnsie2, Severian, So you guys are suggesting Belkin & Prism2 ?10:52
PajjI was looking for where it actually is on the hard drive10:52
makuany other/10:52
maku?10:52
johnsie2I do10:52
gasheryep10:52
makujohnsie2, :)10:52
johnsie2mines an external usb one and it works fine10:52
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johnsie2had to do something in system one time10:52
makujohnsie2, can i get a list somewhere?10:52
NsOmNiAcFINALLY10:53
NsOmNiAcgot it to work10:53
NsOmNiAcw00t!!!!!!!!!10:53
Shin_Gouki:)10:53
Shin_Goukithats nice to hear Msnomainac10:53
Shin_Gouki^^10:53
johnsie2i dunno,, I'm new to Ubuntu... just know it was the only dit that made wireless networking easy10:53
sobersabreHacker, you're the 0nly 1!!!10:53
NsOmNiActhanks for all your time Shin_Gouki10:53
NsOmNiActhanks again sobersabre10:54
johnsie2belkin is one of the top brands10:54
Shin_Goukinp NsOmNiAc10:54
sobersabrenp Shin_Gouki  ;)10:54
Shin_Goukitell sobersabre to help me ^^10:54
NsOmNiAcI was about to go friggin crazy10:54
SeverianI have half a dozen different Wifi cards  For best results, certain chipsets should be picked.  Prism2 almost always works, but it does not support wpa.Some, but not all Belkins are good.10:54
NsOmNiAcI moved over 80 gig of mp3's over here10:54
gasherseverian  chosing the layout  preview i want begium period but not located and suggestions10:54
Syrussanyone have iwlib.h on their machines?10:54
johnsie2mine is only thwe 802.11b one though and you can get faster ones now10:54
bob2Syruss: http://packages.ubuntu.com/10:54
Syrusswireless-tools doesn't seem to install it for some reason10:55
nickrudSeverian, do you have a preferred card?10:55
bob2wireless-tools is a set of user tools; it's unlikely to install random .h files10:55
Severiangasher, so in the Keyboard preferences, you don't see Belgian as a choice.  Correct?   Did you press the Add button?10:55
bob2(the headers are in the relevant lib -dev package)10:55
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NsOmNiAcok one more thing to test10:55
NsOmNiAcbrb10:55
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vengeful_erk hes using bitchx :-P10:56
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Syrusshmm10:56
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gasherserverian yep10:56
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SyrussI have the feeling I need to add a sources repository to my sources.list10:56
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bob2Syruss: no, that's incorrect10:56
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Syrusshmm10:56
bob2Syruss: the web page I pointed you at will tell you precisely which binary package has that .h file10:56
gasherseverian belgiumiso alternate10:56
SyrussYou have searched for packages that names contain iwlib.h in all distributions, all sections, and all architectures.10:57
johnsie2sheesh this gnome-panel error is doing my head in now10:57
gasheri am restartin the system\10:57
bob2Syruss: no10:57
makuokk ppl thanx for the support10:57
bob2Syruss: scroll down, you want to search package contents10:57
makubbye10:58
PajjI'm just trying to install new fonts for xchat.. I miss my verdana ;(10:58
Syrussloll bob210:58
Severiannickrud, is this for a laptop, or do you want PCI?  Any Prism2 card is great.  Some other chipsets are good.  The problem is that manufacturere change chipsets without changing model numbers.  So, the Netgear MA101, rev one is great, but the rev 2 is bad.10:58
bob2Pajj: so install msttcorefonts10:58
Syrusssorry10:58
Syruss:)10:58
Syrusslibdevel/libiw-dev10:58
Syruss:))10:58
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bob2yes10:58
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johnsie2usb ones are good too someimes cos you can move them around to gert a better signal10:59
Syrusshandy page that10:59
nickrudpci, I need to set up a local net here soon. And yeah, I got burned at a previous location with the prism change a couple of years ago10:59
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johnsie2Can anyone tell me how to edit my gnome-panel either in nautilus or gedit?11:00
nickrudor, a change from prism to something else in a linksys case, it's been a while and my memory fades11:00
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bob2johnsie2: how would you edit a binary file with either of those things?11:01
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NsOmNiAcok ...it's working now .. but I had to go back into alsa mixer and have it save11:01
Whistlerhello everybody11:01
Whistler:)11:01
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SeverianI have a SMC PCI card coming in the mail  I think it is a 6002.  I looked on the FAQ for Monowall and chose a well supported card there.  I went looking on ebay until I found an auction for a well supported card that was cheap.  I want to build my own access point.  Just for grins.11:01
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NsOmNiAcerrr how can I get it to save the settings it has now11:01
johnsie2well... i was kinda hping that the data for the icons wouldnt be in a binary file lol11:02
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bob2johnsie2: you don't use either of those things to edit icons, either11:02
bob2johnsie2: nor the menu11:02
johnsie2*the dats  telling it which icons to show11:02
Syrussanyone else here have dns issues with network manager?11:02
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Jeromeeanyone else want to blow their computer up?11:02
nickrudI hate doing research, gimme an answer ;)11:02
johnsie2how does the panel know which icons to show?11:03
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SeverianI should add that some cards can be made to work with ndiswrapper, but I have zero interest in those.  I want native support, because wthat should work for years.  I don't see how ndiswrapper systems will stay up to date.11:03
bettong_BOFHanyone know how to temperaraly mount a drive thats slave to hda and as an ntfs filesystem?11:03
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mamoruHello11:03
bob2johnsie2: you mean the quickstart buttons? it has xml files in ~/.  if yo uwant icons to go away, tho, just right click on them11:03
nickrudI see way too much ndiswrapper pain here, I have no interest in flogging myself. Oh, well, research it is11:03
bob2bettong_BOFH: same as you mount anything else11:03
mamoruI have encountered a problem, please help11:04
bob2bettong_BOFH: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdbwhatever /mnt11:04
Whistleris it possible to have icons on desktop with icewm?11:04
bob2mamoru: you need to ask an actual question11:04
johnsie2you cant if the icon aint there though... it's trying to load an icon that doesnt exists11:04
bettong_BOFHok11:04
mamoruThe story is - I installed the ubuntu on my notebook11:04
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mamoruon a new partition11:04
mamoruthen installed GRUB in MBR11:04
Severiannickrud, all the big bands did that kind of change.  There are Belkin, Netgear, Linksys, and Dlink models that are completely different with the same model number.  You have to know what rev you are getting.11:04
bozzuis it possible to make dhcpclient run on the background at boot? (i don't won't to wait 60 sec at Configuring Network Interfaces when there's nothing to configure)11:04
johnsie2so I'm guessing I need to remove the data telling it to show that icon out of some kind of list then?11:05
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mamoruNext - downloaded all the updates including kernel11:05
nickrudSeverian, careful research, then :)11:05
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bob2mamoru: it's way easier if you ask on a single line11:05
bob2bozzu: don't tell it to start on boot if you're not going to be plugged in11:05
Severiannickrud, that is the only way to be safe, I believe.  Especially on wifi.11:06
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twystedbozzu you can always press ctrl c to have it skip it but as bob2 said if your not going to use it disable it :)11:06
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mamoruGRUB then included 2 kernels and an XP which was installed before ubuntu on NTFS partition /dev/hda1. I could easily boot linux many times11:06
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mamoruthen i booted XP and after that i couldnt boot ubuntu anymore11:06
SeverianI would stay away from TI, abd SIS chipsets for Wifi.  They don't seem to work in Linux.11:06
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mamoruit says he cannot mount /dev/hda3 on /root11:07
mamoruwhat is the problem?11:07
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Whistleris it possible to have icons on desktop with icewm?11:07
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nickrudSeverian, I actually considered snaking cable through the walls to avoid wifi here (we own the facility, and it's not too large) but I quit that kind of work a long time ago.11:07
bozzusometime i need it so i don't want to disable.11:07
bob2bozzu: it's not disabling it11:08
bozzutwysted, ctrl c works, but after that totem don't work (i don't understand why such thing happen)11:08
bob2bozzu: it's disabling trying to bring it up on boot11:08
bob2bozzu: remove the auto line from /etc/network/interfaces and only bring it up when you're plugged in11:08
bob2bozzu: or use ifplugd or network-manager to bring it up automatically11:08
bob2Whistler: not unless icewm actually has a desktop.  or you run nautilus.11:08
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Whistlerbob2 k thx11:09
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bob2mamoru: go get a boot cd11:09
gasherseverian change done at keyboard layout but problem pertains\11:09
mamoruHello. I have encountered a problem, please help. The story is - I installed the ubuntu on my notebook, on a new ext3fs partition /dev/hda3, then installed GRUB in MBR. Next - downloaded all the updates including kernel. After reboot, GRUB included 2 kernels and an XP which was installed before ubuntu on NTFS partition /dev/hda1. I could easily boot linux many times. Then i booted WinXP for the first time after installing linux and then i couldn't boot Ubuntu11:09
SeverianIf you set up wifi propely it is pretty safe.  For example, only allow ssh connection to go through that use preshared keys.  No one is going to break into that.11:10
nickrudAnyway, thanks for the advice Severian.11:10
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bozzui removed auto eth0, i'ill give it a try. thanks!11:10
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mamorubob2: Where do I get such a CD? I have an install CD from which I can boot. Can I use one?11:10
Whistleri have installed icewm on server install.How do i make icewm to start at boot?11:10
Syrussjust leave gnome on there it's better11:11
Whistleri know whats better11:11
Whistleri need to make icewm to start11:11
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Whistlercause i got to type startx every time11:11
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Whistlerany ideas?11:12
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Severiangasher, when you look at the layout tab under Keyboard preferences, is there a check next to the Belgian keyboard layout?11:12
xophErhow can I install libgl1-xorg when I have libgl1-mesa installed now?11:13
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gasherserverian yep11:13
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gasherbut it is not check11:13
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johnsie2i just apt-getted kubuntu... how do i run it now?11:13
Severiangasher, you need to check it.11:14
dmabowenI just downloaded Limeware.  How do I install it?  Its a rpm.  I have tried to extracting it, it said I do not have premission to extract archives in /bin11:14
Hobbseelogout, select kde from the session manager, and login again11:14
gasheri did it11:14
Hobbsee!alien11:14
ubotuhmm... alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/11:14
Whistler!icewm11:14
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ubotuWhistler: Are you on ritalin?11:14
Hobbsee!tell dmabowen about alien11:14
gasherbut the same problem pertains11:14
twystedrpms still exist? wow :p11:14
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SeverianNow close that dialog and reboot for that to take effecy.  At least, I think you need to reboot.11:14
Whistleri have installed icewm on server install.How do i make icewm to start at boot? Cause now i have to type startx11:15
twystedi would have thought deb would have taken over the world by now11:15
Hobbseetwysted: lol..yeah, entire linux distros use them11:15
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Hobbseeit ought to have, yes lol11:15
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mamoru!boot problems11:15
ubotumamoru: Bugger all, i dunno11:15
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Hobbseehehe11:15
mamoru!boot CD11:15
ubotumamoru: I don't know11:15
Hobbsee!boot11:15
ubotuHobbsee: I don't know, could you explain it?11:15
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mamoru:(11:15
Hobbseesure, the boot is the thing on my foot11:15
MadpilotPPC!tell Hobbsee about msg the bot11:15
kemikarthghg11:15
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mamoruslippers11:16
kemikUSELESS *CRAP* argh.. totem, why ?!11:16
gasherserviain but problem pertains11:16
kemikbreezy replaced a perfect working mplayer-plugin for mozilla with a non-working crappy totem :|11:16
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twystedkemik uninstall totem's plugin itll fix it11:17
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kemiktwysted:  yes.. just have to find what it's named11:17
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twystedshould be something like totem-mozillaplugin11:17
Severiangasher, That is a quick reboot.  If you bring up the preference now, does it show as checked?  I want to see if the change took.11:17
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kemiktwysted:  doesnt show anything like that when searching for totem11:17
xophErwhere can I set up power saving of the monitor=11:17
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twystedwhat about searching for plugin11:18
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gasherseverian it show check11:18
oskuhi all, somebody is using feedbox?11:18
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gasherit is check but is still the problem pertains11:19
kemikit's silly using totem as default player since it's *so inferior*11:19
gasherseverian shd i start the system again11:20
Severiangasher, Idon't know what else to suggest.  Are you running Ubunto or kubuntu?  Or to put it another way, are you using gnome or kde?11:20
gasherubunto11:20
twystedubunto? whats that11:20
twysted:P11:20
ColonelKernelwhat is ubunto?11:21
Severiangasher, you rebooted after you set the flag on, didn't you?  If so, you don't need  to do it again.11:21
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mypapitColonelKernel, i dont know about ubunto.. only ubuntu, or bontot11:21
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SeverianUbuntu, excuse me.  Not ubunto, as I was correectly challenged.11:22
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gasherseverian i did reboot11:22
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gasherbut the problem pertains11:22
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twystedgasher u need to set the flag again11:22
twystedthen try to do what your wanting to do11:22
Severiangasher,  Are you running Ubuntu or kubuntu(or xubuntu, maybe)?  Or to put it another way, are you using gnome or kde?11:23
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Madeyeguys, I'm having problem with shipIT and launchpad, whom should I contact ?11:23
gasheri am running ubuntu11:23
johnsie2hi....how do I install Persoanl Security Manager (PSM) for Mozilla?11:23
twystedmadeye whats wrong specicially someone here might be able to help you11:23
gasher5,1011:23
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SanderDHi. I've just restored a backup of /var, but now the permissions aren't right. What should I do?11:24
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Madeyetwysted, i keep getting this error when I try to login11:24
MadeyeThe email address 'Jad@php.net', which you're trying to use to login has not yet been validated to use in Launchpad. We sent an email to that address with instructions on how to confirm that it belongs to you. As soon as we have that confirmation you'll be able to log into Launchpad.11:24
Whistlerhow is the default ubuntu login screen package called?11:24
bob2SanderD: beat whoever made the broken backup11:24
pittijohnsie2: sudo aptitude install mozilla-psm11:24
bob2SanderD: then copy the permissions from another ubuntu machine11:24
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Madeyetwysted,  while the fact is -> my account already activated, and I have participate in launchpad before, and now i'm not able to login .11:24
johnsie2cheers pitti11:25
Whistlerhow is the default ubuntu login screen package called?11:25
twystedMadeye youll probably need to contact the launchpad team then support@launchpad.org?11:25
SanderDbob2: No, I don't do self-chastisement :-)11:25
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bob2Whistler: "what", now "how", and gdm.11:25
Madeyetwysted,  i'm getting same error on shipit.ubuntu.com11:25
Madeyetwysted,  it seems to be same system/db11:26
SanderDbob2, second reply: Can't I just do chown sander /var or something?11:26
bob2er, not.11:26
bob2SanderD: ha ha ha.11:26
bob2SanderD: the vast majority of things in /var are not owned by random users11:26
bob2SanderD: most is root, but applications create various things under there owned by them11:27
SanderDok...11:27
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bob2so, you'll need to compare yours to another machine11:27
bob2or reinstall11:27
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bob2or get a unfucked backup11:28
bob2etc11:28
SanderDbob2: okay, thanks11:28
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twystedMadeye> only thing i can suggest is trying to report a bug on the launchpad site11:28
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twystedbrb11:28
DalkusAnyone know any good command line image editing/optimising software for linux?11:30
enycdalk: maybe imagemagick tools ?11:30
Dalkusthat rings a bell, thanks - I'll check it out11:30
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popeyDalkus: transcode11:32
popeyno, ignore me that's video editing11:32
Dalkushehe ok :) thanks though11:33
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Severiangasher,  In help, there is a reference to a "Keyboard Layout Switcher" manual.  It might be good to look for that.  I am going to have to quit for the night, so I ban attend my Python group in the morning.11:33
__boomerhi11:34
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__boomeris there anything like windows server stored profiles for linux clients?11:34
__boomerexcept mounting home by nfs11:34
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mahangu__boomer, i don't quite follow, explain again?11:37
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jing ] ITR11:37
N6REJwhat the heck?11:37
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cudaman73he flood?11:37
N6REJjing, we don't speak korean... english only please11:38
NsOmNiAche's smoking something and not sharing11:38
cudaman73heh11:38
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cudaman73well i've got an interesting question for you ubuntu nerds out there11:38
cudaman73i can't remove firefox.11:38
cudaman73aaaaaand... it won't start up11:38
mahangucudaman73, apt-get --purge mozilla-firefox11:38
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N6REJhey guys I've got lots of problems here.... #1 I'm trying to put ndiswrapper on my sons new breezy system and its not working worth a fig!  I need some help.11:38
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mahanguN6REJ, you need to tell us an error. we're not psychic11:39
__boomermahangu, i'm trying to integrate some linux clients into our samba/windows domain11:39
cudaman73mahangu: like that exactly11:39
cudaman73?11:39
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__boomermahangu, i just don't know how i can make the home directory availible on all clients11:40
locomortomahangu: so what your saying is that I'm not a pyhsic?11:40
locomortoYOU LIE11:40
mahangu__boomer, #samba11:40
twystedn6rej what kind of card is it11:40
mahangulocomorto, of course not, my bad11:40
N6REJmahangu: understand... thats part of the delemma I'm not sure who's giving what error... I'm installed the kernel headers, the ndiswrapper and gcc, g++ etc, as obutu(?) says to, but when I run make I get error level 2 command not found in gcc line 1211:40
mahangucudaman73, locomorto is definitely psychic11:40
fekmoin11:40
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N6REJtwsted: its a belkin 54g f5d700111:40
cudaman73mahangu: --purge doesn't work o_O.11:41
mahanguwhats the kill syntax for a package again guys?>11:41
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twystedn6rej if you could message me the last few lines of output make shows itll help11:41
spiralhi again11:41
mahanguN6REJ, sounds like a gcc version conflict11:41
bob2N6REJ: er, surely you have builde-essential installed?11:42
HappyFool'sudo aptitude purge <packagename>' should work11:42
bob2N6REJ: also, complaints like that are useless unless you show us the full error message11:42
N6REJbob2: I won't swear to anything right now11:42
N6REJbob2: I know but I can't network that system, so its all sneaker net right now.11:42
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N6REJbob2: lets check this build-esential11:42
__boomermahangu, thx11:43
mahangubrb, jumping in to console for this11:43
N6REJbob2: apt-get install build-essential ???11:43
mahangu__boomer, no probs, got your answer?11:43
twystedyes n611:43
mahanguone sec11:43
N6REJk11:43
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bob2N6REJ: however you normally install packages11:43
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mahanguback11:44
N6REJbob2: no normal for me yet, I'm only a 3 day breezy user... i've been out of linux for almost 10yrs11:44
MadpilotPPCgood night/morning/whatever, all11:44
mahangunight MadpilotPPC11:44
N6REJbob2: nope I don't think it was, it just did a bunch of stuff.11:44
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N6REJbob2: its installed now though.11:45
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strhello people, my firefox is now working, thanks!11:46
Hobbseestr: yay11:46
stri need another help11:46
strhello hobbsee11:46
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Shin_GoukiMadpilotPPC, hello!11:47
strhow to enable java in my firefox11:47
stri want to access some java enabled sites it says i need a plugin11:47
HappyFool!tell str about java11:48
Hobbseestr: hoary?11:48
HappyFoolstr: i'm just checking if that link covers firefox too11:48
Hobbseehttp://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ - download the deb from there, then install it11:48
stryes hoary11:48
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Hobbseeeasier than the other method :)11:48
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Pretonemorning all11:48
Lasherhey people, I finally got Ubuntu to work11:49
Lasherbut11:49
Shin_Gouki^^11:49
Shin_Goukithere is always a but :D11:49
LasherI can't use my wireless card...or hear any sound...11:49
Hobbseelol...always11:49
codenutGood Morning Early as it is.11:49
Hobbseeevening codenut11:49
Hobbseelove the name :P11:49
HobbseeLasher: sound, is everything unmuted in alsamixer?11:49
N6REJhow can I mount the cdrom so I can copy the output of the console to it?11:49
codenutIt's actually for Morse Code.11:49
LasherWell Hobbsee, the thing is, most things in the device manager show that they're unknown.11:50
codenutI am going onto 160 meters right now since it is still dark out and seeing wht I can find.11:50
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codenut1825 khz, above AM Broadcast.11:50
speelhey does any one have breezy installed?11:50
N6REJqrz codenu, de N6REJ11:50
Hobbseespeel: sure do11:50
mahangucodenut: amatuer radio?11:50
speelHobbsee, any breakage?11:50
N6REJ<----- stuck in an rf black hole11:50
mahangui need a shell host11:51
mahanguany recomendations11:51
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pl_icehi there11:51
Hobbseeno, apart from sound and not rebooting correctly.  no program breakage, no.  sound is an issue with the driver every few kernel updates11:51
codenutI know those holes well.11:51
HobbseeLasher: device manager?11:51
speelhmm ok thanks :)11:51
HappyFoolN6REJ: i don't think you can easily write to a CD like that11:51
mahanguN6REJ: i was just gonna say that11:52
HappyFoolN6REJ: the usual approach is to use something like gnomebaker, or alternatively mkisofs and cdrecord (from the command line)11:52
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mahanguwhat are you trying to do?11:52
codenutvy2wu11:52
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kestashi, I'm following the advice in the unofficial starter guide, and adding the extra repos, but I get the following error:11:52
kestasFailed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found11:52
kestasdoes anyone know why I get this with the backports?11:52
pl_icehey when i export something eg. export abc='...' where it's exportig it to so i dont have to do it after reboots?11:52
HappyFool!tell kestas about backports11:52
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fryfrogpl_ice: throw it in your .bashrc11:53
tl-pHantasyhey. im totaly new to ubuntu and i need some help11:53
N6REJmahangu: I'm trying to put the console output onto a disk to I can bring it here to show y'all as requested.11:53
Yetr2kestas, because it's a web 404, meaning it's not there, which usually means you got the address wrong11:53
kestas!tell happyfool thanks11:53
HappyFoolubuntuguide.org is deprecated (around here, anyway)11:53
N6REJI could put it on my usb card reader also.11:53
mahanguN6REJ: is it _really_ long? Wouldn't a pen and paper do?11:53
fryfrogN6REJ: why not just copy/paste from ssh or something?11:53
Lasheris there a way to make screen shots in ubuntu?11:53
Lasherwithout a plugin?11:53
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tommi^Hi. I was playing with vnc2swf when I noticed this. If I set remote desktop settings to accept connections the address is localhost.localdomain:0. That's okay but when I open a new login which opens to vt-8 (?) and login a different user, he/she also has that same address in the remote desktop settings.11:53
HappyFoolN6REJ: usb memory sticks should be automounted; not sure about card readers11:54
fryfrogN6REJ: yeah, or the ol' "penismightier"11:54
mahanguLasher: yes, system take screenshot11:54
pl_icethnx11:54
N6REJmahangu: yeah its long, and its not networked right now is the big problem *sigh*.11:54
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HappyFoolN6REJ: when the card is plugged into the reader, try 'sudo fdisk -l' to see if it's listed (probably as /dev/sda1 or similar)11:54
mahanguN6REJ: ndiswrapper for what?11:54
N6REJI got it to recognize the usb reader.11:54
LasherHobbsee, let me go take a screenshot of what its doing and I'll show you.11:54
tommi^So when I tried to use vnc2swf on the second login, I got permission access question to the first login and it would've taped that one. :(11:54
tl-pHantasyi've just entered my username and password then it says that i got a new mail.. then e usename@username console... what can i do to skip this thing? plz help me anyone...11:54
N6REJmahangu for a belking 54g f5d7001 wireless nic11:55
N6REJHappyFool: tnx, hang on one, let me put a card in it.11:55
mahanguN6REJ: ah, i see11:55
mahanguN6REJ: there is no ethernet card on the machine? to hook up for the momen?11:55
tommi^tl-pHantasy, then what did you do? Skip what?11:55
mahangutl-pHantasy: it does that, just ignore it and uset he shell when it logs in11:55
mahangui don't see a problem there11:55
tl-pHantasyi just installed the ubuntu system11:55
Morten_Hey, I have a problem with ubuntu5.10 - i cant run my screen at 1024x768 (I can run in higher res.), and cant use over 60Hz in any resolution .. I tried to install the nvidia-drivers, but it didnt help :(11:55
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N6REJmahangu: no, there isn't, I could dig one outa the closet and if I have to I will11:56
HappyFoolN6REJ: it *might* be automounted11:56
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tl-pHantasywhen i try to type anything it says unknown command11:56
tommi^Morten_, are you sure you running on the nvidia-drivers. Can you check the xorg.conf if it has nvidia or nv in the driver section?11:56
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mahanguN6REJ: ok so run a console inside x, print screen the output, put on usb card and upload to web>11:56
mahangugive us the link11:56
commodorehi11:56
eythianMorten_, I had a similar thing with mine, (it would run 1024x768 at 60Hz == headache). I had to tweak my Xorg.conf to increase the valid frequencies.11:56
Lasherok, before I go, is there a way to get to the other side of my partition if I'm in ubuntu and save a, per se, screenshot to the windows partition?>11:57
tl-pHantasy2-AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+, 2210MHz (0% Load) .:. usage: 426/2048MB (20.80%) .:. NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX, 1280x1024/32bit/60Hz11:57
tl-pHantasyWindows XP Home Edition (5.1 - 2600), 5d 16h 31m, 55m 23s .:. 114GB/220GB(51.7%) free11:57
eythianMorten_, and in my case, the nvidia drivers made no difference either11:57
Morten_ohh, ill have a look in the xorg.conf11:57
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ghbI have a problem with my DVD-ROM: it reads at only 500 kb/s, but the DMA on it is enabled. =/11:57
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Morten_eythian, okay, ill try to tweak the conf, thx :)11:57
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HappyFoolN6REJ: have you checked here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards ?11:58
hettar_grrr how is one supposed to get the rc dvd when the bittorrent tracker doesn't work.11:58
tommi^Morten_, you should be able to do dpkg-recongigure xorg-server or similar, in which case you don't have to do it by hand.11:58
commodorei don't have sound working on my ubuntu11:58
tommi^dpkg-reconfigure, I meant11:58
HappyFoolN6REJ: i see F5D7010, but no F5D7001 there11:58
kikinovakHi. I just installed a minimal Ubuntu version ("server", x, xfce) on an old laptop. runs nice. Q: can you suggest some music playing app like xmms, juk, amarok, but not very resource-eating?11:58
commodorei don't know what's my soundcard11:58
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commodorebut on windows it's driver is realtek high definition sound driver11:58
mahangucommodore: system->admin->dcice manager11:58
Morten_tommi^, okay ill try that :)11:58
kikinovakcommodore: lspci -v | grep -i multimedia11:58
FrankyFourFingermorning11:58
commodoredevice manager suxxorzz11:59
HappyFoolkikinovak: something like mpd maybe ? (i don't use it)11:59
ghbcommodore: Sounds like you got the standard onboard sound card.11:59
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kikinovakHappyFool: has to be gui though11:59
falcon3what is a good FXP program for kde ?11:59
commodorei thinks so too ghb11:59
commodorethe board thing or whatever is intel btw11:59
pavkahello all11:59
GunzoCan someone help me.. the install cd wont boot on my Laptop?11:59
commodorei don't know too much about hardware11:59
N6REJhmmmmmmmmmmmm let me check the board.12:00
kikinovakcommodore: open a console and simply type lspci... that shows you all your cards. Check the line for the soundcard12:00
commodoregunzo check bios12:00
tl-pHantasytommi^ i just installed the ubuntu system and restarted... then it popes up a console after ive entered my username and password.. im TOTALY new to ubuntu 1 time user12:00
mahangucommodore: if device manager "suxxorz" then do what kikinovak is telling you12:00
mahanguwe cant help you unless you help us12:00
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commodoreok12:00
kikinovakmahangu: I'm a Slack veteran recently migrated to Ubuntu:o)12:00
mahangutl-pHantasy: you gave ubuntu a username / pass during the install12:00
mahanguuse that12:00
Gunzocommodore: yes I know that it says booting kernel and hangs12:00
mahangukikinovak: hi, im an xp refugee :)12:01
pavkacan someone help me with fglrx driver in breezy12:01
pavka<12:01
pavka?12:01
tl-pHantasyyeh...ive entered the username and pw...12:01
kikinovakmahangu: welcome to the club12:01
tl-pHantasyits after that12:01
mahangupavka: just ask the question12:01
mahangui think we need to put that in the topic :)12:01
mahangukikinovak: heh, thanks12:01
mahanguim loving the shell though12:01
kikinovakmahangu: haven't been using doze since 200112:01
falcon3what is a good FXP program for kde ?12:01
mahangudo a /cctp finger and you'll see me on irssi :P12:01
N6REJok, found the chipset there...  4th in the belkin list12:01
kikinovakmahangu: 100% GNU/Linux since12:01
mahangukikinovak: a true convert12:01
Shin_Goukihi anyone a idea were i may contact SOMONE from this page: www.ubuntulite.org12:01
mahangufalcon3: what the heck is fxp?12:02
kikinovakmahangu: occasionally I open "Terminal" in Mac OS X LOL12:02
falcon3mahangu: ftp but from one ftp server to another12:02
mahangu:)12:02
Secreth`Xmahangu i thing he means FTP12:02
Secreth`Xthink12:02
mahangufalcon3: trry apt-cache search fxp ?12:02
falcon3Secreth`X: no, fxp12:02
HappyFoolN6REJ: are you on hoary or breezy ?12:02
tl-pHantasymahangu i hsve done that..its after that12:02
tl-pHantasyhave*12:02
Secreth`Xheh12:02
commodorethe command gave some text but there wasn't anything said about the soundcard although i managed to find this line 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definiti on Audio Controller (rev 03)12:02
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Gunzook anyone here who can actually help or what?12:02
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mahanguGunzo: ask the question12:03
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pavkamahangu: Ive configured xorg for use of fglrx, but in log I cant find some info about fglrx loading. cat /var/X11/X*.log | grep fglrx is empty. kernel module Ive loaded. When I rewrite fglrx to radeon, all works, but without acceleration. Do U know whats wrong?12:03
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vy2wun6rej have you tried breezy, the early release?12:04
Gunzoheh just did but here it goes again: Cant boot install cd on my laptop says something like booting kernel and then hangs. Laptop is Acer 1692WLMi12:04
mahangupavka: sounds like a radeon specific issue, best is to wait till a radeon user comes in12:04
mahanguask every few hours or so12:04
commodorewhat do i have to do now? find drivers for it in google?12:04
mahanguGunzo: try the boot options12:04
mahanguGunzo: cycle through F2 F3 F4 at startup12:04
mahanguoh you can't even get to boot?12:04
vy2wuis this group talking about breezy or hoary?12:04
Lasherwtf12:05
mahanguvy2wu: we talk about both12:05
Lasher>.<12:05
mahanguGunzo: bad cd perhaps?12:05
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N6REJvy2wu: yeah, thats what I'm using... yesterdays release actually... installed perfectly, just thinks the nic is a firewire device.12:05
LasherI see the driver I need, but apparently I need some login and password for Acer12:05
Lasherand I don't even own an acer..12:05
Gunzono I cant get the boot menu but if I choose type simply linux we get the aforementioned problemn12:05
N6REJsorry HappyFool : I was turned around with music running.. breezy12:05
Morten_tommi^, i couldn't use the dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server - but the driver in the xorg.conf file is "nv" .. should it be NVIDIA?12:05
pavkamahangu: but xorg dont load fglrx module maybe...12:05
GunzoI mean I can12:05
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mahanguGunzo: like i said, bad cd?12:05
Gunzo... might be12:06
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mahangupavka: i can't really evaluate, ive never done tweaking there12:06
mahanguGunzo: download an .iso and burn a new one12:06
pavka:(12:06
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Gunzothinking maybe the downloaded iso might be crap12:06
mahanguok guys,im heading out for some studying12:06
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N6REJmahagnu yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how to write to the card.  Its dev/sda and so far it won't let me write to it.12:06
commodorei did what you needed to help me, please help me now, my soundcard stuff is 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definiti on Audio Controller (rev 03)12:06
Gunzothanks mahangu12:06
mahanguN6REJ: mount it as rw?12:06
mahanguGunzo: no probs, good luck12:06
HappyFoolN6REJ: it'll be /dev/sda112:06
N6REJhow do I tell it to be rw?12:07
HappyFoolN6REJ: or /dev/sda2 or whatever; /dev/sda is the disk, /dev/sda1 etc the partitions12:07
mahanguplease guys, no queries / pms12:07
strno one answering in firefox forum :( anyone here got some experience in installing java in firefox under Hoary12:07
mahanguask in the channel, more chance of being answered12:07
N6REJnm, reboot fixed it!12:07
kikinovaker... anyone knows how GNOME's music player is called? (I only have xfce installed)12:07
HappyFoolN6REJ: the card didn't automount, obviously?12:07
commodoreok noone is helping me12:08
mahangukikinovak: gnome has a few12:08
mahangukikinovak: i use xmms12:08
mahangubut there is rhythmbox12:08
HappyFool!tell commodore about sound12:08
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kikinovakmahangu: no... the one that looks like KDE's Juk12:08
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kikinovakmahangu: with a big playlist windows12:08
kikinovakmahangu: with a big playlist window12:08
kikinovakno s :o)12:08
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mahangummmm12:09
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mahangui have no ida, never used12:09
commodorethanks happyfool12:09
kikinovakanyone here using GNOME (hey, there *has* to be) take a peek in his multimedia menu and tell me the name of GNOME's music playing app that is default in Ubuntu and NOT xmms?12:10
tl-pHantasymahangu plz answer?12:10
mahangukikinovak: totem?12:10
mahangutl-pHantasy: i said, try /etc/init.d gdm start12:10
topyliKinomees: rhythmbox12:10
tl-pHantasythn12:10
mahangutl-pHantasy: are you inside a GUI?12:10
tl-pHantasyx12:10
tl-pHantasyya12:10
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kikinovakmahangu: that's the video player12:10
strhelp please, this is very critical for me to finally say goodbye to winxp12:10
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zygahello12:10
mahangukikinovak: rhythmbox is hte other one12:10
Kinomees?12:10
zyga'IPP request failed with status 1030'12:10
zygadoes anyone know why gnome-cups-manager keeps saying this?12:10
strjava in firefox12:11
kikinovakmahangu: yessssssss that's it!12:11
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kikinovakthanks12:11
mahangukikinovak: dude, i told you that! :)12:11
tl-pHantasy"no such file or directory12:11
mahangutl-pHantasy: are you runnign ubuntu12:11
mahangu?12:11
mahanguit sure doesnt sound like it12:11
mahangutry startx12:11
tl-pHantasyi just finnished the setup12:11
mahangui think you're outside the gui12:11
HappyFoolstr: Hobbsee told you how earlier; alternatively read the link ubotu sent to you12:11
xophErhow do I change the ubuntu-icon on the gnome-panel? Ive tried changing the gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png file but it doesnt work with that anymore..12:11
kikinovakmahangu: must have missed it the 1st time12:11
mahangukikinovak: k12:11
mahanguok people im off12:12
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tl-pHantasythis is the 1 time using ubuntu...12:12
mahangutl-pHantasy: ask in _here_, you will (eventually) get an answer12:12
mahangustudy study12:12
mahangulaters all12:12
mylastmorningcan someone help me out. I've got an ATI video card...12:12
tl-pHantasyok12:12
crovHow to put default boot system to Winshit... i have changed like stated in http://ubuntuguide.org/#changedefaultosgrub to default         X_sequence but this (X_sequence) need to be changed with title of other sys or what? thnx12:12
mahanguubotu tell crov about grub12:12
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mylastmorningcan someone help me install the drivers for this ATI Radeon 9800 Pro12:13
HappyFool!tell mylastmorning about ati12:13
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tommi^mahangu, tl-phantasy messaged you too?12:14
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commodore!tell commodore about sound12:14
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commodore:D12:14
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N6REJbrb gotta reboot12:15
tl-pHantasyi just finished the ubuntu setup, removed the cd-rom, then i resatarted..then it starts alot of packages...entered my username and pass... then it says that ubuntu comes with absolutley no warrenty... then it says i got new mail...folowed ub by a console: username@username~12:15
crovmahangu: so after every change in menu.lst i need to "sudo update-grub" right or? thnx12:15
tl-pHantasytommi^ i just finished the ubuntu setup, removed the cd-rom, then i resatarted..then it starts alot of packages...entered my username and pass... then it says that ubuntu comes with absolutley no warrenty... then it says i got new mail...folowed ub by a console: username@username~12:15
tommi^tl-pHantasy, so it doesn't start graphical login screen. Is that your problem?12:15
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tommi^tl-pHantasy, don't repost!12:16
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tl-pHantasyi dont come passed the command screed12:16
tl-pHantasyscreen*12:16
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tl-pHantasysry tommi12:16
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tommi^tl-pHantasy, can you rephrase that?12:16
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pl_icehey, someone wrote short program, work on most linux boxes except ubunut, i just got memory error, that's it, its a short program, any ways i can follow it thourh where the error is?12:16
zygasivang: sure12:16
tl-pHantasythat means?12:16
ghbDoes anyone know how to configure a DVD-ROM in order to make it read faster (note that DMA is already enabled).12:16
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tl-pHantasyrephrase?12:17
HappyFoolsay it another way12:17
tommi^tl-pHantasy, that means, I didn't understand what you meant by you don't come passed the command screen and could you say it another way12:17
zygasivang: I did try to localhost:631 but the panel is disabled for security reasons12:17
tl-pHantasyafter ive exited the setup12:17
tl-pHantasyand removed the cd12:17
zygasivang: any attempt to do something requires login and I have no idea what to enter12:17
tl-pHantasyit restarts12:17
tommi^tl-pHantasy, write on one line.12:17
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topylitl-pHantasy: if you did the default installation, you should come to the graphical login screen. your X configuration is broken12:17
HappyFoolpl_ice: easiest is probably to e-mail the author of the program12:18
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tl-pHantasyi installed "server"12:18
tommi^tl-pHantasy, that means, X - the graphical system isn't installed.12:18
tommi^tl-pHantasy, why did you install server?12:18
topylitl-pHantasy: ok, then all is ok. you don't have a graphical system12:18
sivangzyga: ok, let's see12:18
tl-pHantasyok...12:18
tl-pHantasyand wht do i do?12:18
pl_iceHappyFool it's more of a wild program ... my mate hacked it to work under freebsd, but not u/d ubuntu :(12:18
topylitl-pHantasy: what sort of server are you setting up?12:18
tl-pHantasyinstall the defult setup?12:18
tommi^tl-pHantasy, reinstall from scratch might be the easiest for you.12:18
tommi^tl-pHantasy, yes.12:19
tl-pHantasyim new to ubuntu so im trying to learn the thing12:19
HappyFoolpl_ice: you can use gdb to debug the program (works for C and probably C++ too)12:19
Oetzihi12:19
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tl-pHantasyok..thnx for ur help12:19
topylitl-pHantasy: if you want a desktop system, you can just do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"12:19
tommi^tl-pHantasy, you should go with the default if you don't know what you are doing. You can also read about these things in the documentation.12:19
topylino need to reinstall12:19
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Gunzook managed to get the install cd to boot by disabling APIC but now it hangs on starting pc card services12:19
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Gunzoany ideas?12:20
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sivangzyga: I can access loclahost:631 for some reason, I think this can be enabled through the cupsd.conf file12:20
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tommi^topyli, well, yeah. probably no but does he have extra (useless) server packages installed now?12:20
Whistlerdoes ubuntulite have their own irc channel?12:20
N6REJman I must be totally stupid or something!!!!... I look at in breezy, and the file and data is there, I bring it over to windoze and there is nothing there.12:20
pl_iceHappyFool ok, will try12:20
N6REJthe file is empty.12:20
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HappyFoolN6REJ: make sure you umount the drive12:20
tl-pHantasytopli ? it worked :D12:20
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Oetziwhere can I find w32codecs and libdvdcss for mplayer (what apt-source)?12:21
N6REJHappyFool: AH!!! no didn't do that.12:21
N6REJk12:21
N6REJI'll try again.12:21
sivangzyga: ah grumpg, yes it's disabled.12:21
topylitl-pHantasy: yes, it works :)12:21
N6REJI'm getting dizzy from spinning around though LOL12:21
tl-pHantasythnx so much12:21
zygasivang: same here12:21
zygasivang: the page is there but it's disabled12:21
HappyFool!tell Oetzi about restricted12:21
os2macare we still on track for OCT13?12:21
tl-pHantasyyou guys knows ALOT...12:21
DeepBhi there, how /var/cache/apt/available can be rebuilt if 'apt-get update' does not do its job?12:21
sivangzyga: tail -f /var/log/cups/error_log , see what that gives when you try to print/connect12:21
GunzoI am hanging on starting pc card services does anyone have any ideas to get around that?12:22
zygasivang: checkig12:22
tommi^DeepB, can't you just rerun apt-get update?12:22
Gunzoin install12:22
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Gunzoanyone?12:23
DeepBtommi^: i'm telling you apt-get update does *not* work ;)12:23
crovcan the apache 1.33* be installed on ubuntu instead apache2? with "sudo apt-get install apache" will this install it or i need to specify more parameters12:23
tommi^DeepB, Oh. What error you are getting?12:23
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mylastmorningcan someone help me with my Linksys Wireless-G card?12:24
tommi^crov, apt-cache show apache will you give you detailed information about the package. apt-cache search apache will list all packages with apache mentioned.12:24
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DeepBtommi^: i get no no error, it says rebuilding the file at the end, but it won't12:24
HappyFoolGunzo: maybe boot option   hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false   (see http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-54139.html or try google)12:24
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tommi^DeepB, and you know that it doesn't rebuild by how?12:24
OetziHappyFool: so they are not included in breezy12:24
os2maclastmorning what's wrong with your card?12:24
N6REJHappyFool: ok, I have it finally!  I used the link above and hit send12:24
Oetzi?12:24
zygasivang: nothing in particular12:25
mylastmorningos2mac, ubuntu doesn't notice its their.12:25
DeepBtommi^: by having *not* that file no longer12:25
zygasivang: hmm, printing needs udev?12:25
Nelssonpll on12:25
HappyFoolOetzi: for legal reasons which are discussed on the page ubotu sent, no12:25
HappyFoolN6REJ: err, which link?12:25
tommi^DeepB, yeah. I guess that does mean it :)12:25
N6REJthe http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl link12:25
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HappyFoolN6REJ: ok, standby12:25
os2macare you running the live or install release?12:25
N6REJk12:25
OetziHappyFool: thx12:25
DiscokingHi. I had 3 partitions on my computer, XP Ubuntu and OS-x. I then used Partition Magic to delete ubuntu and OS-x, and get the free space into the XP paratition. Now, i offcourse got a GRUB problem, and i was wondering if this solution will work>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:26
HappyFoolN6REJ: it's traditional to put your nick, not mine ;)12:26
tommi^DeepB, well I don't have that file either. Doesn't apt-get no longer work?12:26
N6REJoh, LOL sorry, I did 2 one of me and one of you.12:26
mylastmorningos2mac, I am running the install release of .04 not .1012:26
N6REJcause I wasn't sure.12:26
N6REJty12:26
N6REJI know now12:26
HappyFoolN6REJ: ok, looks ok to me12:26
os2machave you tried ndiswrapper?12:26
Whistleranybody here using ubuntu lite ?12:26
HappyFoolN6REJ: what's the problem ?12:26
mylastmorningno what is that os2mac?12:26
os2machang on12:26
N6REJHappyFool: ok, so the errors are ok?12:27
mylastmorningok :)  os2mac12:27
HappyFoolN6REJ: note, i am not an ndiswrapper expert or user12:27
DeepBtommi^: exactly that, i get "E: The package index files are corrupted. No Filename: field for package whatever"12:27
HappyFoolN6REJ: i don't see any errors12:27
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sivangzyga: I think it's unrelated to IPP, since IPP detects printing queues and g-c-m then shows them up12:27
N6REJHappyFool: *SIGH* wrong output!!!12:27
Oetzii have another question12:27
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HappyFoolN6REJ: wait12:28
sivangzyga: (if you're trying to use IPP that is, I think it does use udev for locally physical printers)12:28
os2macmylastday: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%2912:28
N6REJI type the command I want and then >> logfilename right?12:28
N6REJk12:28
HappyFoolN6REJ: have you tried just installed ndiswrapper-utils, and not mucking about with this ?12:28
Oetziis there a problem beetween nvidia-glx drivers and firefox12:28
zygasivang: my printer is not detected locally12:28
tommi^DeepB, I have archives -directory, pkgcache.bin (6.3M), srcpkgcache.bin (6.1M) in /var/cache/apt. You don't have that pkgcache.bin?12:28
HappyFoolN6REJ: you downloaded 1.4 from sourceforge, right ?12:28
zygasivang: it is attached via usb12:28
N6REJwell, sorta.. .it it didn't work.12:28
N6REJyes12:28
HappyFoolN6REJ: ah, ok12:28
DeepBtommi^: yes, i have both12:28
zygadamn12:28
sivangzyga: well, then you have to do sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart to see the usb printer12:29
os2macmylastday: if that doesn't tell you what you need to know look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%2912:29
N6REJI also did the ndiswrapper-utils from snaptic12:29
HappyFoolN6REJ: the wiki implied it should Just Work, but obviously not12:29
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HappyFoolN6REJ: right12:29
N6REJit said something about having to change radio12:29
Oetzibecause if i start firefox my xorg-process need about 98% CPU12:29
tommi^DeepB, are you using breezy or hoary?12:29
HappyFoolN6REJ: yeah, i think that's in the .inf file12:29
DeepBtommi^: and those are rebuilt just fine with update12:29
N6REJI might have a bad .inf too because another place said the dell inf is needed.12:29
zygasivang: done12:29
zygasivang: no change12:29
N6REJok, let me send the dell inf over.12:29
N6REJbrb again.12:29
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DeepBtommi^: breezy here12:29
Oetziuntil i close firefox12:29
N6REJI'm gonna need a rum'n coke b4 the nights over.12:30
os2macmylastday: there is a pretty good chance that that package is not installed on your system and you will have to go find it in snaptic and install it.12:30
sivangzyga: hmm, maybe your model is not detected properly, what kind of printer is this?12:30
Oetziproblems begun yesterday when i enabled nvidia-glx12:30
tommi^DeepB, That is interesting. Do you have any extra repositories installed that aren't in normal installation?12:30
sivangzyga: btw, do you see the printer when plugged in in hal-device-manager ?12:31
zygasivang: getting hal-device-manager12:31
zygasivang: it works on a normal breezy install12:31
DeepBtommi^: oh, sorry, i think i found the problem, one of the packages suffers from a bug on packaging itself12:31
zygasivang: its an epson stylus c8212:32
tommi^DeepB, yeah. Which one?12:32
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Lashercan I ask a really stupid question...12:32
N6REJHappyFool: well, that was different.  I got some output that time... still don't like the driver.12:32
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DeepBtommi^: but still, i'm coming from debian... is there no more 'available' file for apt no more?12:32
N6REJHappyFool: let me finish the instructions now12:32
tommi^Lasher, ask. Don't ask if you can ask.12:32
sivangzyga: hmm, then I'd suggest you stick to the breezy install :) Knopiix has a multitude of hacks there, god knows what's went wrong :)12:32
DeepBtommi^: hwtools12:32
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tommi^DeepB, it would seem that no. I don't know about these things really :)12:33
LasherI think I have this figured out, but how do I use Debian and install ndiswrapper, I have the debian file d/l'd to my usb drive.12:33
zygasivang: I cannot - I need a live cd that can print :)12:33
sivangzyga: I thin it's enough trouble supporting upgrades from Debian, adding knoppix to the game can be a problem :)12:33
zygahehe12:33
sivangzyga: can't the breezy-live print for you?12:33
nathanji just installed ubuntu and while i was installing it didnt ask for a root password but it will let me into the updater etc via my user pass but i cant su from a terminal? whats going on?12:33
zygasivang: I know, I'm just paranoid because I'm working on this for a two weeks now12:34
crovtommi^, ok thnx, where i can find latest source.lst for ubuntu breezy,as i cant find some packages for example for mysql "mysqlcc""12:34
zygasivang: breezy live cd needs lots of setup12:34
mylastmorningcan someone help me with my wireless card?12:34
OetziHappyFool: i got a gpg-error on retrieving nerim-source list12:34
zygasivang: if you know of a way to lock down the live cd (I'm building a kiosk cd)12:34
DeepBtommi^: ok, thx anyway12:34
zygaand only start the browser + printing support feel free to let me know12:34
Oetzinathanj: use sudo su12:34
tommi^DeepB, hwtools is in normal breezy installation.. hmm. You should think about filing a bug report.12:35
zygasivang: hal-device-manager sees the printer12:35
zyga:)12:35
LasherI think I have this figured out, but how do I use Debian and install ndiswrapper, I have the debian file d/l'd to my usb drive *the ndiswrapper file and the broadcom wireless NIC card file for my computer*.12:35
nathanjGetzi why is that?12:35
Oetzidon't no12:35
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sivangzyga: interesting, what happens when after restarting cupsys after plugging in the printer, you attempt "gnome-cups-add" ?12:35
nathanjOetzi: # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges12:35
nathanj%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL12:35
nathanj:)12:35
sivangzyga: do you see the printer there?12:35
zygasivang: checking12:36
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Oetzinathanj: yes i know12:36
Oetzibut i think thats stupid12:36
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mylastmorningcan someone help me with my wireless card?12:36
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mylastmorningcan someone help me with my Linksys Wireless-G card?12:36
zygasivang: no12:36
N6REJgrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..... I'm calling belkin12:36
DeepBtommi^: thx for the tip, but i think i might pin it, since the broken one is coming from an external repo, ubuntu is not to blame this time :)12:36
zygasivang: :/12:36
HappyFoolsudo su is not needed. try sudo -i12:36
m33scan someone tell me where to get libdecss?12:36
HappyFoolor read the wiki page (wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo)12:36
sivangzyga: then I have no idea..:-( sorry12:37
HappyFool!tell m33s about restricted12:37
zygasivang: okay thanks12:37
Oetziso i first think did is sudo su and then i set a password with passwd12:37
Oetziomg bullshit12:37
nathanjHappyFool: why i cant i just su12:37
Lasherhow do I use a .deb file?12:37
HappyFoolnathanj: ubuntu dev decisions12:37
commodoreOMG when i click system>about ubuntu it says cannot launch entry ! i'm trying to think ubuntu and linux are bad after all12:38
sivangLasher: sudo dpkg -i *.deb12:38
crovwhere i can find latest source.lst for ubuntu breezy,as i cant find some packages for example for mysql "mysqlcc" icq client centericq etc.. thnx12:38
nathanjHappyFool: so su is in sbin then i gues?12:38
sivangLasher: however if you are using a deb file not from the Ubuntu repo, there's no gurantee it will work or not break the system12:38
HappyFoolnathanj: i don't know; try 'which su'12:38
nubbenathanj, u can enable the root-acct12:38
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commodoretell me what's wrong!!!!12:38
nathanjnubbe: how?12:39
commodorewhen i click system>about ubuntu it says cannot launch entry12:39
commodorewhat's wrong12:39
commodore???12:39
commodore!!!12:39
HappyFoolcommodore: what version of ubuntu are you running (please don't repeat yourself)12:39
ubotuhmm... ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me12:39
Oetzias i said get a root-console12:39
commodore5.0412:39
nubbenathanj, I'll check, never had a reason12:39
Oetziwih sudo su or sudo -i12:39
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Lasherwhat does the -i stand for?12:39
Oetziand then set a password with passwd12:39
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commodoreit used to work, but not anymore12:40
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Hackerhey guyz12:41
HappyFoolcommodore: it is hard for us to guess what is wrong with your system; what have you changed since it last worked?12:41
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commodorenevermind, i try to live without it12:41
NelssonIs there Votivomppa in sight?12:41
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commodorethe bigger problem is that the kernel version i'm running is 2.6.10 but i need 2.6.12 to get my soundcard working, is there a way to update the kernel?12:42
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Infomanganihi all, I tried to convert my breezy to evms but I cannot boot my rootfs on lvm2 on md (raid5), looking at /dev with busybox at boot I cannot find the relevant /dev/evms{md,lvm2} but only /dev/sd*. booting from rootfs on simple segment (partition eg: /dev/evms/sda8) works, any hint?12:43
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Redleerhi12:44
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Gunzoguys my install keeps hanging on "Starting PC Card Services"12:45
syntaxxhi i just wanna ask whats the name of the application that can auto detects and auto configure the network?12:45
Redleersomeone able to help? wondering what is root pass as default. didnt ask to make one on install12:45
HappyFoolGunzo: did you read the link i sent you?12:45
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Gunzoit used to hang on booting kernel but when I disabled APIC that got fixed12:45
Infomanganibtw: using initramfs-tools with kernel 2.6.12-912:45
HappyFool!tell Redleer about root12:45
funkyHatwhat packages do i need to install to make skype look nice?12:46
CookedGryphonHi, i'm trying to install bluej and maple, and i've found clemson ubuntu which claims to have them precompiled but I can't get install the repositories12:46
GunzoHappy: no sorry I was afk12:46
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Redleerty12:46
Gunzo...trying to get the install to work :)12:46
CookedGryphonis anyone here?12:46
Infomanganino initramfs hackers online... too bad :-(12:47
HappyFoolGunzo: maybe boot option   hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false   (see12:47
HappyFool            http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-54139.html or try12:47
HappyFool            google)12:47
commodorehow to update kernel?12:47
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syntaxxhi i just wanna ask whats the name of the application that can auto detects and auto configure the network? because i saw a friend of mine he just installed ubuntu and it auto configure his network12:48
HappyFoolcommodore: normal system updates (synaptic or apt-get etc); to compile your own kernel, see the kernelhowto on the wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto)12:48
Infomanganicommodore: apt-get install linux-{386,k7}12:48
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funkyHatE: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:49
funkyHat:/12:49
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funkyHathow do i fix that ^?12:50
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fekfunkyHat: you have to be root12:50
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commodoreapt-get install linux-{386,k7} doesn't work12:50
funkyHati was root12:50
HClyou probably have another apt-get running.12:50
HappyFooluse sudo; don't run apt-get or aptitude while synaptic is running12:50
fekfunkyHat: close any other apt session12:50
pokowere am i now?12:50
Uldmaybe you had synaptic allready running12:50
Infomanganicommodore: {386,k7} means that u have to choose between the two12:50
funkyHati'm pretty sure there aren't any open12:50
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commodore:D i'm a beginner sorry12:51
funkyHatahh, there was one12:51
pokocommodore 64 rocks12:51
funkyHat:)12:51
Infomanganicommodore: it is called "regular expression" man:/regexp in konqueror if you have manpages installed12:51
Uldeverybody has to be a beginner one day or another ;)12:51
ompaulpoko, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic :)12:52
commodorei have ubuntu not kubuntu, no konqueror12:52
InfomanganiI'm a beginner in installing init{rd,ramfs} evms on lvm2 on md bootable kernels12:52
ompaulcommodore, sudo << sudo apt-get install foo12:52
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syntaxxhi i just wanna ask whats the name of the application that can auto detects and auto configure the network? because i saw a friend of mine he just installed ubuntu and it auto configure his network. anybody know?12:53
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commodoreinstall foo? whats foo?12:53
Hoxzerhi12:54
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commodorehi12:54
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Infomanganisyntaxx: man interfaces && vi /etc/network/interfaces12:54
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Lashersorry, what was that command to start a .deb file?12:54
funkyHatsudo dpkg -i filename.deb12:54
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InfomanganiLasher: sudo dpkg -i <filename>12:54
Lasherthx12:54
Redleerwhat version 5.04 uses x.org or xfree86?12:55
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nubbeRedleer, xorg12:55
syntaxxInfomangani, yeah i know that.. i just wanna know whats the name of the application12:55
Redleerty12:56
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huhmzWhy does ubuntu/kubuntu put the kernel modules on a tmpfs?12:56
Infomanganisyntaxx: in gnome I did not remember, in kde you can find it under control center12:56
Infomanganihuhmz: only the restricted ones12:56
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huhmzinfomangani: and why is that?12:56
syntaxxInfomangani, ok12:57
syntaxxthanks12:57
Infomanganisyntaxx:  gnome-network-manager ot similar12:57
Infomanganis/ot/or12:57
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huhmzinfomangani: it disturbs me a little that it's using 13Mb of my precious RAM12:57
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Infomanganihuhmz: disinstall linux*restricted if you do not need them12:57
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lorenzodHi all.12:58
GunzoHappyFool: tried that link you sent me... still hangs on starting PC card services12:58
huhmzinfomangani: will do, but im still curious about the reason12:58
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gotschihi12:58
yuachthmm my breezy starts a whole lot slower then my hoary did, any clues on why?12:58
Infomanganihuhmz: If you just need 1 module from restricted you can just build it with module-assistant12:58
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MTommyHello everyone12:58
commodoreInfomangani: what command updates the kernel then? I don't know how to choose and i didn't understand what you said12:58
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HappyFoolGunzo: you added the hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false line ?12:59
Gunzoyuh12:59
jventurahello12:59
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gotschihey, i have a question: can i install Ubuntu on my Win xp pc?12:59
jventuraneed help12:59
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MTommyis there anyone that can help me?12:59
Infomanganicommodore: to choose type "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and see12:59
HappyFoolGunzo: i'm out of ideas, sorry; that my perception is that should prevent pc card services from starting12:59
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syntaxxInfomangani, i search it on apt and i only saw gnome-nettool and gnome-system-tools12:59
nubbeR there any conflicts between gstreamer-plugins, w32codecs, ffmpeg and the like? do they sit quietly until called or do packages change systemwide settings when installed?12:59
MTommyis so please contact me in private12:59
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speelgotschi, you can install linux on any pc12:59
Infomanganicommodore: If you have amd go with -k7, if >pentium2 go with -686, then -38601:00
MTommyI have some problems with Ubuntu 5.0401:00
gotschiyeah, but can i leave my win xp partition?01:00
lorenzodIs anybody else experiencing Gnome sluggishness today?01:00
Khantozavrihi folks.... does 5.10 repositories contain sources for kernel 2.6.12-9-68601:00
Khantozavri? apt-get doesn't list them.... :(01:00
Gunzobugger.... guess I'm gonna have to give Ubuntu a miss ....pretty annoying since I have a knoppix distro that I could install to HD just fine01:00
lorenzodCan't really remember what was upgraded yesterday..01:00
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commodoreInfomangani: i have pentium 401:00
Infomanganisyntaxx: I do not use gnome, try both or just install ubuntu-desktop, it is in.01:01
speelgotschi, yea i belive so .. but im not definet check linuxquestions.org or google or ask here01:01
HappyFoolGunzo: i'm afraid all i can suggest now is filing a bug, sorry01:01
tonyyarussoIs it possible to disable/override the system beep warning of an impending shutdown, and/or change the timing of it?01:01
HappyFoolKhantozavri: it'll be linux-source-2.6.12, i think01:01
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Gunzok but thanks a lot anyway01:01
Khantozavriwell, this is all i got: Package kernel-source is a virtual package provided by:01:01
Khantozavri  kernel-source-2.6.11 2.6.11-701:01
Khantozavri  kernel-source-2.6.10 2.6.10-601:01
Khantozavri  kernel-source-2.4.27 2.4.27-1001:01
KhantozavriY01:01
MTommyis there anyone that is up to help me?01:01
HappyFoolKhantozavri: linux-source, not kernel-source01:01
syntaxxInfomangani, ok thanks01:01
tommi^MTommy, just ask your question.01:01
gotschii can easily install my suse linux 8.1 , but i have troubles with ubuntu... it says it has to format the HD01:01
Khantozavriic... thanks let me try01:02
crovanyone installed apache 1.3.33 on Breezy?01:02
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tonyyarussoI'd like to be able to leave my computer to shut down later, but don't want it making noise when it does so, hence wanting to stop the system beep (which of course is louder than any other sound...).  Anybody know how to do this?01:02
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MTommyafter i typed user name and password, it appears the logo screen (the one with Ubuntu Linux for Human beings) and then everything is blocked01:03
MTommyreally everthing01:03
mwright1nightIf I install Breezy RC1 will it apt-get update to the new version01:03
mwright1nightor will they be out of sync?01:03
tommi^crov, are you still at it? Did you read what I said you earlier? Do apt-cache show apache and youll see that apache is 1.33 package.01:03
gotschiok, i will try it again, cya laterz!01:03
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Khantozavriwell, it tells me that I got it installed, but when I want to install some programs it conplains that no sources were found... :(01:03
topylii've lost the console in breezy :(01:03
MTommyI really don't know what to do....01:03
tommi^MTommy, nor mouse and keyboard doesn't work?01:04
crovtommi^,  it dont show me anything only new prompt :((01:04
MTommynothing01:04
MTommytotally blocked01:04
ghbDoes this sound familiar to anyone? My DVD-ROM reads at like 500 kb/s, but I have DMA enabled (UDMA, as a matter of fact). =(01:04
MTommyi can't even reboot with ctrl alt del01:04
tommi^MTommy, does pressing ctrl + f1 work?01:04
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MTommyi need to turn off the laptop01:04
HappyFoolKhantozavri: ah, you probably want linux-headers-686 (you said 686 earlier, right?)01:04
tommi^topyli, lost?01:04
MTommybefore yes01:04
crovtommi^,  are you also using Brezzy can you dcc me your source.lst of apt mybe that is the problem... :(01:04
Khantozavriyep/... right01:04
MTommythen not01:04
HappyFoolKhantozavri: that package will put the headers appropriate to your kernel01:04
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Khantozavriso should i try linux-headers-686 with apt-get?01:05
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MTommyehm wait guys because i'm pretty a noob over linux ^^'01:05
topylitommi^: yep, all the real consoles in tty1-6 are blank. X works01:05
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commodoreInfomangani: i get Couldn't find package linux-{686}01:05
mwright1nightIf I install breezy01:05
tommi^topyli, have messed with login system lately or upgraded?01:05
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eythianMTommy, if the caps-lock doesn't work, and the harddisk isn't spinning, it's usually a sign that it's locked solid.01:05
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mwright1nightcan I apt-get update from RC1 to the oct 13 5.1 release01:05
HappyFoolcommodore: linux-68601:06
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commodoreoh sorry :D01:06
MTommythat means eythian?01:06
MTommywhat shall i do then?01:06
topylitommi^: i blame usplash01:06
mwright1nightanyone here ubuntu apt?01:06
commodorehappyfool: too few arquments01:06
eythianMTommy, give it a minute or two (just in case) and then hard reset :/01:06
tommi^crov, have you edite sources.list?01:06
magioI have a problem that when i login i have 3 icons and it says "Update Notifier", then it seems to freeze, nothing responds. Any sugestions?01:06
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MTommyi did it, several times..... T_T01:07
HappyFoolcommodore: use synaptic (much easier) or 'sudo apt-get install linux-686'01:07
tommi^topyli, didn't cause anything serious for me..01:07
topylitommi^: i removed usplash now, and could see the boot messages but when i switch to a console from X, there's nothing01:07
eythianMTommy, and it always locks at the same place?01:07
tommi^topyli, but you can open gnome-terminal in Xorg?01:07
MTommyyep01:07
HappyFoolcommodore: I wouldn't upgrade my kernel unless I had a good reason too01:07
commodorehappyfool: my soundcard doesn't work01:07
topylitommi^: yes, i do have a shell there01:07
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MTommyeythian do you know that after user name and password start the music and appera the logo01:07
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HappyFoolcommodore: i doubt upgrading the kernel will help; the same sound drivers will be used in both01:08
commodorehappyfool: i have hda_intel01:08
MTommyalways after the logo appears it blockd01:08
eythianMTommy, hmm. sounds like it really hates some of your hardware. What version of ubuntu are you trying? (sry if I'm making oyu repeat, I'm working as well, so not keeping an eye on IRC)01:08
MTommyeythian, 5.04 for amd6401:08
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eythianMTommy, do you get sound?01:08
commodorehappyfool: linuxquestions.org said it's supported in kernel 2.6.1201:08
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HappyFoolcommodore: then wait for breezy01:08
MTommyyep eythian01:08
HappyFoolcommodore: what you are doing will install a -686 version of the 2.6.10 kernel01:09
MTommyi have a turion64 @1.8ghz01:09
MTommy1gb ddr ram01:09
HappyFoolcommodore: breezy will be out this Friday01:09
MTommyXpress200 (128mb shared)01:09
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commodorehappyfool: oh01:09
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MTommyand fujitst 80gb01:09
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locomorto100gb harddrive :)01:09
commodorehappyfool: this friday! i'm not going to school!!01:09
MTommythis is my hardware eythian01:09
eythianMTommy, weird. One thing to try is log in like usual, and as soon as it starts, and before it crashes flick to alt-ctrl-f1. Any serious errors might show up there01:09
kemikwhy does rhythmbox require totem-gstreamer? ?01:09
magioI have a problem that when i login it comes up 3 icons and it says "Update Notifier", then it seems to freeze, nothing responds. Any sugestions?01:09
locomortokemik: because thats the sound engine it uses to decode the audio01:10
HappyFoolcommodore: you can get a preview release now, but i'd recommend waiting01:10
MTommyok, i will try eythian...do you think it is hardware problem?01:10
crovtommi^,  now i have (i am using your source.lst and i am doing apt-get update to get package headers, thnx now will try with apache 1.3.3301:10
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commodorehappyfool: when breezy is out, do i need to reinstall ubuntu or synaptic updates it?01:10
locomortokemik: make sure to grab gstreamer0.8-plugins01:10
tommi^topyli, I wonder what is the tty program ubuntu uses. It might be needed to reconfigured.01:10
MTommyeythin, i've tried also the version for intel x8601:10
tommi^topyli, mgetty it isn't.01:10
HappyFoolcommodore: you can use synaptic to update01:10
MTommybut it does the ame thing01:10
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locomortocommodore: you need to change hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list01:10
eythianMTommy, I think it's possible that it's that ubuntu doesn't like something about your hardware. That's usually the only thing that makes Linux lock up.01:10
locomortothen sudo apt-get update01:10
locomortothen sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:10
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locomortoAnd your set01:11
tommi^crov, glad to hear that it's working. What was wrong with your sources.list. Do you still have it? Could you send it to me?01:11
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commodorehappyfool: ok thanks, you have been the most useful in the moment01:11
breezyhi, i'm trying to play a dvd through ogle01:11
mwright1nightHow do I go from Breezy RC1 to Breezy final01:11
locomortoOf course you could do that in synaptic as well01:11
MTommyeythian, when it load all the hardware, it lways says that everything is ok, nothing failed01:11
mwright1nightis there a apt-get solution01:11
mwright1nightro do I have to reinstall01:11
locomortobut its slower01:11
Redleerhow i can use .run files in ubuntu? on mandrake what tryed earlier used to be "./"01:11
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locomortomwright1night: you dont need to do anything01:11
breezyand it basically halts saying: "libdvdread: DVDDiscId read returned -1 bytes, wanted 20480, libdvdread: Encrypted dvd support unavailable."01:11
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HappyFoolmwright1night: breezy final isn't out yet ;). you can use synaptic; standard upgrades should work01:11
locomortomwright1night: you just need to update and you will be cool01:12
breezyanyway i can make this encrypted dvd support available?01:12
locomortoyes01:12
breezyhow?01:12
eythianMTommy, it sometimes happens that even though it detects everything, it still barfs when it comes to actually stress it (I've had that with a stupid "we support Linux" USB2 card)01:12
HappyFool!tell breezy about restricted01:12
locomortoyou need to enable marillat, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss201:12
locomortothen DISABLE marillat01:12
breezythanks01:12
locomortoit is VERY important to disable it01:12
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MTommyEythian, is there any test that i can do to see is there's hardware problem?01:12
kemiklocomorto:  i dont see how that would help me01:12
locomortootherwise you will end up with a borked system01:12
crovtommi^, i dont know i didnt have all source you have (only default and i have uncoment the university source)01:12
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mwright1nightlocomorto: reason for my question is that I want to install RC now, and then update it01:13
kemik!tell kemik about libdvdcss201:13
mwright1nightcause I want to start testing my LTSP01:13
eythianMTommy, not that I can think of. It might also be worth getting the brezzy pre-release ISO. It may be that the problem has been fixed in there.01:13
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mwright1nightis it Gimp 2.401:13
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locomortomwright1night: if your install breezy then update you will always get the latest breezy01:13
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HappyFoolmwright1night: you can check on packages.ubuntu.com for specific package versions01:13
kemiklocomorto:  can i apt-pin totem-gstreamer and still install rhythmbox ?01:13
MTommybrezzy pre-relese eythian?01:13
tommi^crov, the transmission failes for some reason. It's probably my fault for some reason. You don't need the all repositories I have.01:13
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topylitommi^: grr. none of the getty packages seem to be installed. but doesn't gdm need a getty too to run?01:14
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cafuegotopyli: No getty? How did you manage that?01:14
locomortokemik: Are you using totem-xine?01:14
locomortokemik: It might be trying to resolve that dependicy01:14
eythianMTommy, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu, due out later this week. You can install it now though, but there may be minor issues still. However, your system will update itself as fixes come out.01:14
topylicafuego: i used to have a getty but i can't find which one ubuntu has01:14
locomortoand doesn't rhythmbox come pre-installed?01:14
locomortoeythain: what issues?01:15
locomortoeythain: I don't see any01:15
cafuegotopyli: $EDITOR /etc/inittab01:15
tommi^topyli, I think it does01:15
Redleerhow to install drivers what is in .run file?01:15
eythianlocomorto, I'm not running it :) but it's pre-release for a reason.01:15
crovtommi^, yea but now i have 1.3.33-8  :), tell me if you have time, can you see this packages "sudo apt-get install mysqlcc" its for mysql administration01:15
locomortoRedleer: is this for Ati/Nvidia GFX cards?01:15
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HappyFooltopyli: dpkg -S /sbin/getty => util-linux: /sbin/getty01:15
Redleerati01:15
locomortoeythian: they follow a fixed released schedule01:16
locomortoeythian: by now there really should be nothing left to do really01:16
tommi^crov, I guess you have to download mysqlcc from mysql.com or something.01:16
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eythianlocomorto, yeah, I know. I don't expect there to be issues at the moment, I was just being cautious.01:16
tommi^Gotta go, see ya.01:16
locomortoRedleer: look in the forums01:16
MTommywhere can i find brezzy version eythian?01:16
locomortoRedleer: what ati card do you have?01:16
Redleerx800 pro01:16
PanivinoDoes anyone know how to prevent the ibex, ev-summary and cmeta folders from showing up in evolution, when accessing a courier-imap server? It works fine on other mail clientes..01:16
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wwt777<thank gawd they make"Linux For Dummies"01:17
locomortoRedleer: upgrade to breezy now if your not already there01:17
eythianMTommy,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade01:17
breezythanks people01:17
breezyworking now :-)01:17
locomortothen sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx01:17
topyliok, the getty is called getty and it's in util-linux. thanks HappyFool01:17
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MTommythank you  lot eythian01:17
sleptI'm looking for an easy way to remove every package other than the base system01:17
locomortoDo not use the ati installer, it doesn't work quite so well01:17
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topylii'd still like to have a few ttys :)01:17
mvhentenHello,01:17
Redleertook ununtu 5.0401:18
mvhentenI want to have gcc 3.4 on my system01:18
eythianMTommy, np :) it was a break from writing redhat scripts :)01:18
Tomcat_slept: Try debfoster01:18
mvhentenbut the ubuntu put gcc-401:18
locomortoRedleer: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:18
locomortoReplace hoary with breezy in that file01:18
mvhentenI cannot remove gcc-base-401:18
MTommysee ya all01:18
locomortothen sudo apt-get update01:18
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locomortosudo apt-get upgrade01:18
HappyFoolmvhenten: isn't there a gcc-3.4 package?01:18
HappyFooldist-upgrade ;)01:18
locomortodist-upgrade*01:18
locomortooops01:18
locomortosorry01:19
mvhentenYes, but I enabled it in synaptic and it says it is conflicting01:19
_jason!breezy01:19
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade01:19
mvhentenwith the gcc-4 base01:19
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mvhentenalso, the packages were ( somehow? ) never installed01:19
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locomortoor follow that guide01:19
mvhentenI'm trying to do a remove in synaptic and a re-install after a reboot01:19
mvhentenI don't like this01:19
locomorto!tell Redleer about breezy01:19
locomorto!tell Redleer about ati01:19
mvhentenit's too much guessing what the os is doing01:19
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kemiklocomorto:  not using totem at all since it blows01:20
Khantozavrihi again folks.... need some advice...01:20
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topylilet us pray01:20
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sleptdoes anyone know how to scroll up with irssi-text ?01:20
locomortokemik: use totem-xine then it don't blow so much01:20
VensonKhantozavri: do not smoke. go to school01:20
HappyFoolmvhenten: do you have non-standard repos ? (marillat, backports, etc.)01:20
Vensonsay no to drugs01:20
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locomortokemik: I only use vlc for a few small thing01:20
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Vensonoops =)01:20
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Redleerty01:20
locomortonp01:20
Redleertime to read01:20
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locomortoYou really need to have the latest Ati drive versions in linux01:20
kemiklocomorto:  well, sure, but it would be nice to just install rhythmbox .... stupid dependency01:20
Khantozavrias far as i know 5.10 has gcc4... and when i configure parallels workstation, it tells me that gcc3.4 can not be found...01:21
locomortoAnd be aware that the performace may not be so great01:21
KhantozavriVension: Good sense of humor :)01:21
locomortoKhantozavri: sudo apt-get install build-essential01:21
Khantozavrii have done that... it's up and running... but still01:21
HappyFoolKhantozavri: try installing gcc-3.4 ? mvhenten is having a similar problem01:21
locomortokemik: Did you unistall rhytmbox?01:21
locomortoyou could always compile it if its such a big deal01:22
kemiklocomorto:  i cant without installing totem01:22
kemikand i *really* dont want totem01:22
raetselon the subject of upgrading to breezy wasn't there supposed to be a funky upgrade tool with this release? Or did it not make it?01:22
kemikcus it messes up everything ;)01:22
locomortoUNISTALL?01:22
mvhentengcc 4 is not really a standart compiler01:22
Khantozavrimake -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686-smp/build SUBDIRS=/usr/lib/Parallels/Drivers/drvMain SRCROOT=/usr/lib/Parallels/Drivers/drvMain modules $/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686-smp/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found01:22
Khantozavri/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686-smp/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found01:22
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locomortois that what you wanted to do?01:22
mvhentenHappyFool, I didn't do nothing01:22
mvhentenyet01:22
funkyHatraetsel, i think that's a funky 'install from the live cd' tool01:22
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kemiklocomorto:  yeah i could compile from source, but it had alot of freaky-lib dependencies01:22
mvhentenI only hit that upgrade button that seems to be there everytime I reboot01:22
HappyFoolKhantozavri: try installing the gcc-3.4 package01:22
mvhentenbut I guess that's because breezy is so much under development?01:23
kemiklocomorto:  i wanna install rhythm without installing totem ;)01:23
sleptTomcat_: I tried with debfoster but that takes to much time I tought about a single command / shell script I tried with dpkg --get-selections grep awk xargs dpkg -P but I don't get it fast enough01:23
mvhentenYou really don't want 401:23
locomortosudo apt-get install build-dep rhytmbox01:23
HappyFoolmvhenten: yeah, breezy's not final yet01:23
locomortoI think01:23
mwright1nightso breezy RC1 is connecting to the same apt repository as the final version?01:23
raetselah ok FunkyHat maybe I misread something01:23
mvhentenI find it funny it keeps updating the whole time01:23
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locomortomwright1night: yes01:23
mvhentenMind you, I was never used to booting into a graphical OS01:23
mvhentenI went from dos straight to slack 10 year ago.01:23
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mwright1nightok so it sounds like I can safely go RC1 and i'll have the release version by the time the apt repos gets updated for the release snapshot01:23
mwright1nightjust by doing my normal updates01:24
Hobbseemwright1night: yes, that's right01:24
locomortomwright1night: you basically it is the release version now01:24
mwright1nightsorry if I'm being annoying I've made this mistake before01:24
kemiklocomorto:  ah nice .. didnt know of that feature01:24
mwright1nightok great01:24
locomortomwright1night: there might be a few minor changes01:24
mvhentenI find ubunty quite nice somehow, however I still haven't compiled my ati drivers from source, or installed mplayer from source01:24
raetselI'm getting an emac back off someone soon and want to put Ubuntu on it, I've looked for info on reliable USB wifi adapters and the only one anyone mentions is the DWL-122 and that needs tinkering, any other suggestions?01:24
mvhentenI really want to be able to do such things.01:24
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Khantozavrithanks, happyfool...01:24
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mvhentenI havent really started working on my own development projects either.01:24
mwright1nightthanks I appreciate the information01:25
locomortomvhentean: upgrade to breezy01:25
mwright1nightit's very valuable01:25
locomortomvhentean: problem solved01:25
HappyFoolKhantozavri: that worked?01:25
mvhententhat's the thing with slackware: I can take a bare base system and start hacking right away.01:25
locomortomvhentean: latest Ati drivers and mplayer01:25
mvhentenyou installed those on you ubuntu?01:25
locomortoyes01:25
locomortousing the repos01:25
locomortoxorg-driver-fglrx01:25
kemikargh.. installed totem .. and ofcourse it overrides my mplayer-plugin01:25
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Khantozavriwell, it's downloading... lets c... hopefully01:26
kemikit's so stupid01:26
locomortobtw do not use the fglrxconfig it sucks big time01:26
mvhentenok I haven't found my way there yet. to the repos01:26
HappyFoolKhantozavri: please let us know if it does work; mvhenten is having problems installing gcc-3.401:26
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mvhentenintuitively I want to dl sources.01:26
mvhentenyes, I still have that problem01:26
mvhentenI just did a synaptic update01:26
locomortoand don't use internal AGPGART theres a memory leak in one of the GLX extensions01:26
eythianIs there a gnome equivalent to KDE's Klipper?01:26
kemikwhy oh why does ubuntu use totem?!01:26
locomortolast i checked01:26
Khantozavriok... sure... by the way, how do you respone to me only? i mean khantozavri:XXXX01:26
mvhentenand it *says* it has gcc installed!01:26
locomortoeythian: i think I saw something in the forums01:26
eythianto provide clipboard history and so on01:26
kemikKhantozavri:  Kh<tab>01:27
mvhentenbut a 'find / -name "gcc*" does not reveal anything01:27
locomortomvheaten: do you have the dev files?01:27
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eythianlocomorto, OK, I'll take a look there.01:27
KhantozavriHappyFool, thanks01:27
mvhententhe headers?01:27
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locomorto*-dev01:27
locomortoand build-essential01:27
locomortothast very important01:27
eythiankemik, totem isn't so bad once you get the extra codecs installed. I have it playing almost everything mplayer can play now01:27
mvhentenbuild essential installs gcc401:27
mvhentenI don't want that01:27
locomortowhy not?01:27
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mvhentenit's a 'bad' version of gcc01:27
locomortobreezy uses gcc401:27
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locomortoits not 'bad;01:28
mwright1nightwill breezy /5.10 get oo2 final once it is released01:28
mvhentennot very compatible with most of the stuff I want to work on01:28
mwright1nightin the updates repo01:28
mvhentenI'm working on a software project01:28
locomortomwright1night if it released before the 13th then yes01:28
mvhententhat is not entirely compatible with gcc 4 yet01:28
locomortootherwise no01:28
mvhentengcc 4.2 is not considered a stable gcc is it.01:28
locomortoI think it is01:28
locomortoIts much faster ten 301:29
HappyFool4.2 or 4.0.2 ?01:29
locomortoabout 30% i think01:29
kemikeythian:  *almost* just doesnt cut it01:29
mwright1nightok so after the 13th we get stuck with an unsupported beta version01:29
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huhmzwhat are ati's proprietary drivers for X called? I don't think i mean fglrx there is some more i think i used to have? Also didn't glxgears used to spit out some benchmark number?01:29
locomortokemik: stop crying01:29
mwright1nightwhereas fedora will release the final version into there updates when it comes out01:29
eythiankemik, OK, it also plays some files that mplayer has issues with. How about that :)01:29
kemikeythian:  both vlc and mplayer are better01:30
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locomortohuhmz: you have to use some gay option to get it to spit out numbers01:30
kemiklocomorto:  well, i cant use rhythmbox now ... and that sucks01:30
locomortohuhmz: just use fgl_glxgears01:30
kemiklocomorto:  and it's because of totem-gstreamer...01:30
locomortohuhmz: its a better test01:30
huhmzlocomorto: there is no man page and no --help01:30
huhmzok01:30
eythiankemik, sure, I use mplayer mostly, but I was surprised how well totem worked.01:30
kemiklocomorto:  if i install totem, i can playback streaming www-content01:30
raetselchoice is a good, kemik :o)01:30
locomortokemik: then just fucking install it01:30
kemikraetsel:  well im stuck without01:30
locomortowhats the big deal?01:30
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locomortoIts one small package01:30
kemiklocomorto:  HOW?01:30
ompaul!conduct01:31
ubotumethinks conduct is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view01:31
kemiklocomorto:  YOU *CANT*01:31
locomortogod01:31
eythiankemik, you can install it and not use it, you know.01:31
locomortowhy not?01:31
kemikeythian:  then i have to tweak mozilla-firefox somehow01:31
kemikand i just think this mess is retarded01:31
eythiankemik, install mplayer-plugin so that mplayer plays everything in FF01:31
kemikthere's no reason why rhythmbox would depend on totem in the first place01:31
locomortokemik: i dunno, no-one else knows and we can't fix it for you01:32
kemikeythian:  it's installed, but as soon as totem installs, it overrides mplayer :/01:32
locomortokemik: we would love to fix01:32
kemiklocomorto:  so dont give me "just fucking install it"01:32
locomortokemik: please file a bug report01:32
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locomortowell its annoying to have you moan here on and on, and on01:32
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svizzeroanyone knows if there is a way to set up a network quote?01:33
zakamewtf!!!01:33
kemikgranted01:33
zakamenetwork quote?01:33
locomortosvizzero: network quote?01:33
GeckoHello guys. Does anyone know of an unofficial chinese mirror, for none of the mirrors on the list makes me able to transfer with more than 12KB/s?01:33
eythiansvizzero, a what?01:33
locomortomaybe he means a network quota01:34
svizzeroyes01:34
svizzerosry :)01:34
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locomortolike you can only use x mb on eth101:34
svizzeroyes01:34
zakameah01:34
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raetselany emac/PPC users on here today?01:35
eythiansvizzero, ah, OK. That's tricky.01:35
KhantozavriHappyFool, it has worked fine... compiled everything!01:35
HappyFoolKhantozavri: great, thanks01:35
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KhantozavriHappyFool, thank you01:36
HappyFoolmvhenten: sounds like gcc-3.4 shuold 'just work'01:36
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Khantozavrihow do i synchronize my clock with ntp.ubuntu...01:38
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locomortowhats the command to run network-manager?01:39
locomortoI installed it in breezy to see what it is like but can't seem to see it01:39
VoXKhantozavri: ntpdate ntp.ubuntu..01:39
locomortoOr is it a backend to the current tools?01:39
raetselshould be set to do that out of the box Khantozavri01:39
raetselin the start up scripts01:39
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Khantozavriyes, but it always fails during the boot process, don't know why and want to see01:40
VoXraetsel: only if it brings up a device that has a net connection01:40
Khantozavriby the way, what's the exact address? ntp.ubuntulinux.org?01:40
zygisany ideas why ipw2200-source package is not included in Ubuntu, but is even in Sarge, not to mention unstable? :)01:40
locomortoIs network-manager just a backend to the current tools?01:40
raetselah true Vox01:40
inc|freakywhat kind of timeserver is ntp.ubuntulinux.org?01:41
thoreauputicKhantozavri: sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart01:41
VoXKhantozavri: do you have to manually connect tothe internet?01:41
inc|freakystrato .. ?01:41
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Khantozavrino... internet is connected automatically, that's why i'm curios to see what happens during boot...01:41
ompaullocomorto, network-admin01:41
VoXhmm weird01:41
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Khantozavrisudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart01:42
Khantozavri * Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org...                         [fail] 01:42
locomortoompaul: I already have that01:42
Khantozavriany other ntp servers?01:42
ompaulpool.ntp.org01:42
thoreauputicKhantozavri: well you have a networking problem01:42
locomortoompaul: network manager does some really nice things though for me as a laptop user01:42
Khantozavricould it be that port is blocked or something?01:42
thoreauputicKhantozavri: I just did it here and it worked fine01:42
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ompaulKhantozavri, ping www.google.com << that will prove if you have any internet access01:43
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Khantozavriare you kidding ompaul, if i don't have, how than i chat with you here? magic? ;)01:43
Pickle_Weaselis there a movie editing program for ubuntu?01:43
Lasherok, I'm sure you guys have heard this before, but, I have a Broadcom BCM4318 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller and I can not find the ndiswrapper amd64 debian file...can anyone help me out?01:43
mahanguompaul, hat if google is down ;-)01:43
Khantozavri sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org01:44
Khantozavri 8 Oct 15:42:51 ntpdate[14852] : no server suitable for synchronization found01:44
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Khantozavrithis is the result... :(01:44
mahangu*what01:44
raetseltry the ntp iwht a -d and -v option for verbose and debugging, Khanto01:44
raetseliwht=with01:44
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ompaulKhantozavri,  sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org ::  8 Oct 12:44:23 ntpdate[12303] : step time server 66.187.233.4 offset 0.595358 sec01:44
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holdenI have a problem mounting my ntfs partition, it keeps telling me that: "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "windows"."01:44
holdencould anyone help this poor soul?01:44
zygisLasher, I'm sure I've seen on on ubuntuforums.org01:45
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mahanguholden, mount it and then do sudo nautilus01:45
mahanguor add it to your fstab with these values01:45
Pickle_Weaselholden: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs01:45
mahangu/dev/hdax /media/hdax defaults,umask=0 0 0 001:45
Khantozavriit has transmitted lots of stuff and than at the end fails01:45
LasherI read that thread.01:46
Lasherthat's not the problem...01:46
rob^on boot I'm getting "cannot find volume group "hda2"" it then cuts over to busybox, how can I fix this?01:46
LasherI need the actual debian amd64 ndiswrapper file.01:46
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ompaul sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com 8 Oct 12:46:22 ntpdate[12355] : adjust time server 82.211.81.145 offset -0.012238 sec01:46
raetselcan you ping ntp.ubuntulinux.org?01:46
sleptrob do you want to boot from lvm ?01:47
rob^slept no01:47
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ompaulntp.ubuntulinux.org = ntp.ubuntu.com01:47
sleptrob^: good01:47
rob^just bought a new laptop, root is /dev/hda201:47
sleptwhat part is lvm ?01:48
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rob^slept none of it, there is just two partitions and a swap01:48
Khantozavrii guess ping packets are blocked with router01:49
thoreauputicompaul: interestingly, if I run an ntpdate command like those it fails, but /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart connects to ntp.ubuntulinux.org and works fine... odd01:49
topylii lose the ttys after starting gdm. if gdm is not started, i get pretty framebuffer consoles01:49
sleptrob^: volumegroups are part of lvm , if you don't have any than you can skip it with CTRL+C01:49
Khantozavriwell, it's not a big issue, but strange to me....01:50
ompaulthoreauputic, sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart::  * Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org...                         [ ok ] 01:50
raetselI can ping ok Khantozavari, how about a traceroute?01:50
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eythianthoreauputic, sometimes ntpdate will fail if ntpd is running. Maybe ntpdate, the init.d script, takes care of it.01:50
rob^slept, the problem is that on boot its dropping me into a busybox shell01:50
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thoreauputicompaul: yes, that works here01:50
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sleptrob^: whats a busybox shell ?01:50
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thoreauputiceythian: peter@prospero:~$ pgrep ntpd01:51
thoreauputicpeter@prospero:~$01:51
thoreauputiceythian: no ntpdate running here01:51
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thoreauputicI mean ntpd01:51
rob^slept, busybox is a low resource requirement environment, in the kernel itself01:51
Khantozavriwell, seems to me it gets there....01:51
gtdhi guys, is there a program for ubuntu that will turn my monitor into portrait mode, as I physically turn my monitor 90 degrees?01:51
holdenWith my ntfs mounting proble, I can mount it all right, but I can't see the files since I dont have the privileges01:51
N6REJhow do i install a .deb package?01:51
penguin42gtd: xrandr01:51
Khantozavriae-1-0.bbr1.London2.Level3.net (212.187.128.46)      asymm 17 308.947ms01:51
Khantozavri17:  ge-3-0-0.gar1.London2.Level3.net (4.68.124.62)       asymm 18 303.875ms01:51
Khantozavri18:  195.50.91.138 (195.50.91.138)                        459.552ms01:51
Khantozavri19:  ge-0-1.access4.lon2.mnet.net.uk (62.140.218.45)      318.285ms01:51
Khantozavri20:  82.211.81.76 (82.211.81.76)                          501.701ms01:51
holdenand I read somewhere that u needed root priveleges to do so01:51
Khantozavri21:  no reply01:51
Khantozavri22:  no reply01:51
Khantozavri23:  no reply01:51
penguin42N6REJ: dpkg -i mypackage01:51
Khantozavri24:  no reply01:51
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N6REJk ty01:52
rob^ffs dont paste01:52
gtdpenguin42: thank you .01:52
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thoreauputicKhantozavri: please read the topic01:52
OutonoMheya, i have some problems with the right character-set - im using the wrong output i believe (Im from denmark, and have some special chars)01:52
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gtdwhat command do i use to get/install a package from repo?01:52
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penguin42gtd: apt-get install thepackage01:52
gtdpenguin42: thank you (2)01:52
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ompaulKhantozavri, that paste (uncalled for - pastbin.ubuntulinux.nl is preferred)01:53
rcdarkangelexcuse me all how do i change group owners for everything in a folder and not just the folder itself?01:53
apokryphosthoreauputic: mownin'01:53
ompaulKhantozavri, that paste is what one half expects01:53
penguin42so - anyone else getting this warning from software update today (for info and texinfo) ?01:53
thoreauputicapokryphos: hello there!01:53
holdendoes anybody know how to mount a windows partition and have it accesible to all users?01:53
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Khantozavrii'm sorry, but didn't get what you mean ompaul?01:53
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mahanguholden, like i said, add to fstab, /dev/hdaX /media/hdaX defaults,umask=0 0 001:53
ompaulKhantozavri, you can to it01:53
thoreauputicKhantozavri: the place to paste is in the /topic01:54
Dalkusanyone know of a lftp port for windows?01:54
gtdpenguin42: i tried "sudo apt-get install xrandr" but it said "E: Couldn't find package xrandr"01:54
raetselrcdarkangel try: find /somedir -exec chgrp newgroup {} \;01:54
thoreauputicKhantozavri: use a pastebin please01:54
ompaulKhantozavri, have you some mad iptables rules?01:54
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Khantozavriwhat is pastebin?01:54
raetselwhere somedir and newgroup are the things you want to work with01:54
Hobbsee!pastebin01:54
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:54
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thoreauputicDalkus: lftp is an ftp client - do you mean what port is ftp? 21 is the usual01:54
Khantozavriand I didn't touch iptables in my pc01:54
sleptrob^: there is a kernel module  beeing a shell, never heard of that before, how far does it boot till you get to busybox ?01:55
ompaulKhantozavri, great one less thing to worry about01:55
Dalkusthoreauputic, nope, I mean a ported version that excecutes under windows :)01:55
thoreauputic!paste01:55
ubotupaste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text01:55
Oetzime again with another mplayer problem ;D01:55
thoreauputicDalkus: haha - I see now :)01:55
rob^slept, its pretty much at the start01:55
gtdhi guys, is there a program for ubuntu that will turn my monitor into portrait mode, as I physically turn my monitor 90 degrees?01:55
holdenhow can i send those red color message?01:55
rob^just after grub hands control over to the kernel01:55
Oetzion playing a .avi file i got the following error-msg01:55
Khantozavriok... guys, forget about ntp... no worries.... not worth it...01:55
gtd(the suggested package xrandr is not available.01:55
gtd)01:55
Oetzialsa-space: xrun of at least 0.119 msecs. resetting stream0.5% 6 0 95%01:56
penguin42gtd: Its already installed on my machine - in /usr/bin/X11/xrandr01:56
raetselah but the challenge is there now Khanto01:56
apokryphosholden: when you say someone's name, the message is highlighted01:56
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penguin42(for some reason dpkg -S won't tell me which package that is part of)01:56
gtdpenguin42: it's installed on mine, too. No need to install!01:56
Whistleranybody here uses icewm?01:56
Khantozavriis there a way to use hardware accelleration of video card? when i minimize windows, it is laggy01:56
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holdenlol, ok. let's see then: Mahangu: I did, still it doesnt work (already did the mount -a to update the thing, but nothing...:()01:56
Oetziand the sounds have many msec breaks01:56
sleptrob^: apt-told me busbox comes into play when you screwd up your system , what did you do before getting to busybox?01:56
Oetzihas anyone a solution?01:57
rob^slept, just finished an install01:57
raetselKhantozavri can you connect to any of the public ntp servers listed here http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Servers/NTPPoolServers ?01:57
sleptrob^: :-(01:57
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eythianOetzi, is your CPU fast enough?01:58
gtdpenguin42: could you help me? I read the help file of xrandr. I typed "xrandr -o left" but it doesn't work. What command should i use?01:58
rob^slept I even tried letting it auto partition incase I stuffed something the first time, same problem01:58
Whistlerwhy i cant see my programs in icewm menu?01:58
Oetzii have an P Centrino 1,8 GHz01:58
rcdarkangelCould not save the file "/usr/share/application/MySQLCC.desktop" could someone tell me why i cant save this i assume its go to do with permissions01:58
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Oetzii'll hope that is fast enough01:58
eythianOetzi, oh, that should be more than fast enough. Try using OSS output on mplayer.01:58
holdenI have a problem mounting my ntfs partition, it keeps telling me that: "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "windows"."01:59
penguin42gtd: I've never actually used it - I just know of it; I think it needs a particularly happy graphics driver to let you do it - but more than that I do not know01:59
Oetzieythian: how?01:59
OutonoMheya, i have some problems with the right character-set - im using the wrong output i believe (Im from denmark, and have some special chars)01:59
Whistlerwhy i cant see my programs in icewm menu?01:59
sleptrob^: did you try a live cd to make sure your hardware is supported ?01:59
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gtdanybody here used (pre-installed) xrandr to get the monitor into portrait mode (while physically turning the monitor to its side?01:59
eythianOetzi, mplayer -ao oss file.avi02:00
raetselsnack break, bbl02:00
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rob^slept it is, suse and freebsd run fine on it02:00
Oetzik i try it02:00
Khantozavriwell, it simply doesn't want to work... i guess my network admin has blocked this service02:00
rcdarkangelCould not save the file "/usr/share/application/MySQLCC.desktop" could someone tell me why i cant save this i assume its go to do with permissions02:01
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Khantozavrianyone knows what is libqt-mt.so.302:02
Oetziit's a little bit better now02:02
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Kevinzdoes any one know how well breezy will work with ibm t43?02:02
Khantozavriit tells me that cannot load shared liblrary libqt-mt.so.3:02:02
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gtdis there a pdf viewer that allows you to select EXACT magnification/zoom level?02:02
apokryphosKhantozavri: well, do you have it?02:02
Oetzibut there was a error msg telling me that my cpu is to slow02:02
Khantozavrii don't know... where to look for it?02:02
Oetzi,--8<-02:02
Oetzi|************************************************02:02
Oetzi|           **** Your system is too SLOW to play this!  ****02:02
Oetzi|           ************************************************02:02
Oetzi`-->8-02:02
rob^dont do that Oetzi02:03
Oetzisry02:03
eythianKhantozavri, it's the Qt library02:03
apokryphosOetzi: do NOT paste in here02:03
gtdOetzi: do what rob^ says02:03
apokryphosKhantozavri: use locate command02:03
Khantozavrido i have to isntall qt?02:03
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Oetzisorry02:03
eythianKhantozavri, to make whatever it was that you're trying to run work, it looks like it02:03
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sleptrob^: thats strange , I think you have to have a very close look on the boot process , to find out what the last thing is that is done  correctly02:03
rob^yeah02:04
rob^I'm gonna go mess with it some more02:04
rob^bbs hopefully02:04
ColonelKernelid like to find out how to remove the first part of the boot process that uses devfs02:04
eythianOetzi, maybe the file is messed up. I've seen some that mplayer really chokes on.02:04
Oetzik02:04
Whistlerwhy i cant see my programs in icewm menu? menu file seems to have them02:04
z|banditois there a way to set seti@home to only use a percentage of system resources?02:04
apokryphosKhantozavri: the Qt libraries... but check first if you have it02:04
eythianOetzi, try a different player (xine, totem, vlc or somehting)02:04
ColonelKerneli installed the latest vanilla kernel and theres no devfs in 2.6.13 and above02:05
eythianz|bandito, it will only use what's not being used by default, anything less would be a waste.02:05
rcdarkangelCould not save the file "/usr/share/application/MySQLCC.desktop" could someone tell me why i cant save this i assume its go to do with permissions? i am trying to get the mysql cc updated in the app list02:05
Oetzibut i think this also can be a problem with my nvidia-drivers02:05
Secreth`XAre there any active virusses on Linux/Ubuntu atm?02:05
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z|banditoon a highly loaded system with minimal resources, i believe it can cause memory starvation02:05
apokryphosSecreth`X: haha...no. :)02:05
thoreauputicSecreth`X: no02:06
eythianOetzi, maybe, although my much slower machine could play movies without the nvidia drivers.02:06
Oetzibecause I'm experience several speedprobs since i enabled it yesterday02:06
apokryphos!tell Secreth`X about linuxvirus02:06
thoreauputic!linuxvirus02:06
ubotuThe short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=2102:06
Secreth`Xapokryphos, thoreauputic, thanks02:06
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eythianz|bandito, limiting CPU won't help memory usage02:06
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sleptOetzi: use xine-check to find  out if sth is wrong with your system02:06
Oetzik02:06
Pickle_Weaselis there a movie editing program available for ubuntu?02:06
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z|banditohence my inquiry regarding system resources, not cpu in particular ;)02:06
eythianPickle_Weasel, kino or cinelerra02:06
thoreauputicPickle_Weasel: there's kino I believe02:06
Pickle_Weaselthank you =)02:06
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Khantozavriit appears that i don'w have it... downloading...02:07
eythianz|bandito, oh right :) hmm. I don't know of a way to force it.02:07
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eythianz|bandito, but I htink it only uses 12Mb or so doesn't it?02:07
z|banditoi think it's causing my apache to die02:07
z|banditoyeah, it's only 96meg in that box, kinda an old porky installation on it02:08
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kRepsointegration with NTFS filesystem in linux, is this in general "okey" or are there complications?02:08
eythianz|bandito, I'd be skeptical, but I guess it's possible.02:08
eythianz|bandito, oh, right. I'd not run it at all then. I've seen it cause hell swapping on a 32Mb machine (years ago)02:08
thoreauputic!ntfs02:08
thoreauputichmm02:08
thoreauputic!+ntfs02:09
ubotuI heard ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.02:09
kRepsoThat was not the answer to my question..02:09
sleptz|bandito: man nice02:10
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kRepsoI want to use a NTFS partition in ubuntu for intensive use, am I going to have a problem with this? (fact that ubuntu itself will use ext3)02:10
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apokryphoskRepso: of course02:10
z|banditopersonally i'd avoid ntfs if possible02:10
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kRepsoif so, what kind of problems/coplications?02:10
apokryphoskRepso: writing to NTFS is very shaky02:10
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Monwhere do i find out what's new in the breezy preview cd?02:11
kRepsoapokryphos: define 'shaky' if you could02:11
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rcdarkangelshaky=bye bye data if it all goes to hell02:11
Oetzixine-check says good at every point02:11
z|banditonot reliable.. ntfs support needs some more work in my experience02:12
raetseland doesn't it void your Microsoft warranty, :o)02:12
apokryphoskRepso: you don't have a dictionary? And, you can't use Google?02:12
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rcdarkangelCould not save the file "/usr/share/application/MySQLCC.desktop" could someone tell me why i cant save this i assume its go to do with permissions02:12
apokryphoskRepso: suffice it to say you can't consider having a stable-running ntfs drive for Linux to write to regularly02:12
RexKwonDoIdiot question:  I recently test-drove the Kubuntu settings and decided that the Gnome Ubuntu was the place for me.  However, whenever I restart my system, I still see the blue Kubuntu startup until I reach the signon screen.  How do I change that back to the friendly brown Ubuntu I desire?02:12
apokryphosrcdarkangel: yes, it is. You don't have sufficient ones.02:12
kRepsoI also have a brand new external samsung dvd-burner, does ubuntu support these types of USB burners?02:12
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Hali_303Hi! how big is a minimal ubuntu install? I'd need it for an embedded PC board (No X, gnome, kde and other fancy stuff)02:13
rcdarkangelbut i changed them all so that i am the owner02:13
raetselrcdarkangel what does ls -ld /usr/share/applications show you?02:13
kRepsoHali_303: 1gb02:13
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apokryphosHali_303: you can do a "server" install which is quite small. Not more than a gig, I'd think.02:13
Hali_303kRepso: brr :)02:13
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eythianHali_303, I'd recommend going with a less desktop-oriented distro for that. Perhaps slackware or LFS if oyu're game.02:14
rcdarkangeldrwxr-xr-x  3 rcdarkangel rcdarkangel 4096 2005-10-08 12:2802:14
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Hali_303apokryphos: debian installs (without selecting any packages) on 80MB02:14
kRepsoI also have a brand new external samsung dvd-burner, does ubuntu support these types of USB burners?02:14
Hali_303eythian: yes, I guess that is the only solution02:14
apokryphosrcdarkangel: you need root priveleges to edit things there.02:14
Hali_303i'll try slackware first02:14
Oetzieythian: but trying to play the file CPU goes to 100% and then videos lags02:14
raetselso what is the application that is trying to save the file? what user is that running as rcdarkangel02:14
Hali_303thx all!02:14
Ubunti_Kikate dont work properly, I cant get terminal in kate. DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket????02:14
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apokryphosrcdarkangel: just gksudo gedit /usr/share/whatever/somefile02:14
apokryphosUbunti_Ki: have you been running kate with sudo?02:15
eythianOetzi, sounds like the file is too big/complex for your CPU. More likely it's broken somehow. I see them from time to time, with the same behaviour you described.02:15
z|banditoi used to run debian in 8mb ram ;)02:15
z|banditoon a 486.. DX!02:15
Oetzii think its a problem with the divx-codex02:15
apokryphosHali_303: it could indeed be a *lot* less; I don't know. A full default ubuntu install is 1.8 gigs, so I'm speculating here.02:15
RexKwonDowow, that's like what they did on Apollo 13!02:16
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Ubunti_Kihow ? apokryphos02:16
eythianz|bandito, I did the same with slackware in the mid 90's. It was interesting.02:16
z|banditolol02:16
Oetzibecause every other file works fine02:16
z|banditodebian worked well, but it was just running an infobot02:16
apokryphosUbunti_Ki: have you been using "sudo kate" or something? If so, you shouldn't be.02:16
eythianOetzi, yeah, try a different player.02:16
z|banditoand sshd02:16
Oetzionly divx has problems02:16
z|banditomaybe ftpd iirc02:16
Oetzii have tried xine and totem now02:16
Ubunti_KiNo....i just type kate in terminel - apokryphos02:16
eythianz|bandito, my 486 is still sitting in my corner with an OpenBSD firewall installation02:16
thoreauputicapokryphos: it's closer to 500MB tops for a server install - maybe a lot less (can't remember although I did one on an old box here)02:16
z|banditonice02:17
Oetzithey experience all same Problems with that file02:17
apokryphosaha; Hali_303 -- see thoreauputic's comment.02:17
kRepsoapokryphos: I also have a brand new external samsung dvd-burner, does ubuntu support these types of USB burners?02:17
rcdarkangelnope it still wont let me do it02:17
Oetziso i'll tried several other video-file02:17
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Oetziall worked fine02:17
eythianz|bandito, one day I'll fire it up again. It's over 10 years old now, still runs fine (surprisingly, with some of the things I did to the hardware)02:17
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Oetziexcept divx02:17
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z|banditoheheh02:18
brownie17can somone help me?02:18
Ubunti_Kiif I want to install emacs in 5.10, what do I type?02:18
raetselmaybe the file is in use rcdarkangel by another process02:18
brownie17when i try to boot, i get the fololoing error02:18
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eythianOetzi, it's quite likely the file is a bit broken.02:18
brownie17NTLDR is missing02:18
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: probably look for emacs21 or xemacs02:18
brownie17enyc, you there? i ran into some big troubles02:18
Ubunti_Kithanx02:18
thoreauputic!info emacs21 breezy02:18
ubotuemacs21: (The GNU Emacs editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 21.4a-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 5908 kB02:19
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RexKwonDoIdiot question:  I recently test-drove the Kubuntu settings and decided that the Gnome Ubuntu was the place for me.  However, whenever I restart my system, I still see the blue Kubuntu startup until I reach the signon screen.  How do I change that back to the friendly brown Ubuntu I desire?02:19
brownie17can someone help?, when i boot, it tells me "NTLDR is missing"02:19
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Oetziargh02:19
topyliemacs is "optional"? i bet they've made nethack "optional" too! o tempora o mores02:19
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RexKwonDoinamoena tempora!02:19
rcdarkangelnothing can be using it. This is a new file i am trying to create02:20
Ubunti_Kiis emacs2l for breezy?02:20
brownie17enyc, i am stuffed, got no idea how to fix it02:20
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: the info from the bot was for that yes02:20
Oetzii tried to start i firefox now and the XOrg-process suddenly needs 100% CPU02:20
LasherIf I have an AMD 64 processor, do I need the IA64 or the x86-64 drivers?02:20
brownie17does anyone here know much about MBR's and booting?02:20
Ubunti_KiI saw now :) okey, thanks02:20
Oetziuntil i managed to stop firefox02:20
raetselhmm you did type /usr/share/application earlier, but the normal directory name is /usr/share/applicaion, with an "s" at the end rcdarkangel02:21
raetselwhich is it you want?02:21
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eythianbrownie17, boot from a CD and reinstall grub into the bootloader02:21
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raetselooops I meant /usr/share/applications02:21
raetselsorry02:21
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brownie17eythian, yes, but i want to dual boot my windows partittion02:21
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thoreauputicbrownie17: grub can do that easily02:22
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brownie17thoreauputic, but "NTLDR is missing" comes up when i try to run my windows.02:22
Ubunti_KiI type : sudo apt-get install emacs2l but it says: coult not find package for emacs2l02:22
Syrussforget windows02:22
brownie17thoreauputic, and when i retore grub, windows does not even appear in the grub menu02:22
raetseloh has rcdarkangel slunk off in embarassement of his typo? ;o)02:23
brownie17Syruss, no can do sir.02:23
thoreauputicbrownie17: that's a windows issue ( NTLDR )02:23
eythianbrownie17, you can add windows to the grub menu02:23
Syrussuse kqemu for windows within linux02:23
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icewtUbunti_Ki, emacs21, not emacs2l02:23
brownie17thoreauputic, i know, but do you know anything about restoring it?02:23
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raetseldigit 1 not letter l02:23
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_olafdoes anyone out there have comcast cable internet?02:23
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Ubunti_Kioh 21 :P lol, sorry02:23
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Oetziah i have found the solution of my problem on bugzilla02:23
thoreauputicbrownie17: no I know very little about windows, sorry02:23
huhmzWhere should i set /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq (not sysctl.conf because when procps.sh runs /dev/rtc hasn't been created yet i think) ? Is there a rc.local or equivalent?02:23
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LasherI have an AMD 64 Mobile processor, which drivers do I use? the (x86-64) or the (IA64)?02:23
eythianwhat on earth is the HTTP cache cleaner that pops up every so often? What triggers it?02:24
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Oetzithere is a bug in nvidia-glx-config enable02:24
Oetziit doesn't remove the lines Load  "GLcore"02:24
OetziLoad  "dri"02:24
Oetzifrom xorg.conf02:24
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brownie17thoreauputic, ok thanks02:25
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RexKwonDoIdiot question:  I recently test-drove the Kubuntu settings and decided that the Gnome Ubuntu was the place for me.  However, whenever I restart my system, I still see the blue Kubuntu startup until I reach the signon screen.  How do I change that back to the friendly brown Ubuntu I desire?02:25
Ubunti_Kinice, emacs works no. but kate don't.02:25
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CzarAlexI dont care for gFTP. Can anyone recommend a better graphical FTP client?02:26
HobbseeRexKwonDo: sudo apt-get install gdm02:26
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Hobbseethen say gdm at the prompt where it asks you which you want to load02:26
Hali_303thoreauputic: apokryphos: thx!02:26
eythianCzarAlex, can't you just use nautilus?02:26
CzarAlexeythian, lemme check that out.02:26
raetselspeaking of emacs, any PPC users on at the moment?02:26
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RexKwonDoHobbsee: no go, newest installed02:27
eythianCzarAlex, I think you can just go Places -> connect to server, and then use it like it was a local folder.02:27
N6REJI don't seem to have the kernel source on my sons system, just the headers, how do I solve that?02:27
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DalkusAnyone know of software for linux to compress/optimize jpeg files, that gives the ability to select *parts* of the image to be compressed more than others?02:28
fatihi have a problem with my xkb layout :( i'm using turkish keyboard, all special chars is ok but when i pressed a turish character in my keyboard, X does nothing..02:28
ssamdalkus, gimp give quite a bit of control with jpegs02:28
fatihi can't switch consoles like ALT+F102:28
Dalkusnot enough for my needs though, ssam :)02:28
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ssamfatih, alt + ctrl + f102:29
ssamDalkus, i am not sure then02:29
CzarAlexeythian, thanks that appears to be working. however, every so often when i change directories on a remote server, itll say that it cannot display all files in the folder. It wont display any until i hit Reload a few times.02:29
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fatihsaam, not works02:29
_jasonhi is there any way to prevent firefox from running flash on background tabs?02:29
N6REJHobbsee: I need to find the kernel source... I see the headers but not the source02:30
ssamfatih, how did you choose the keyboard layout?02:30
Ubunti_KiI use Kate 2.4.1 KDE 3.4.202:30
Ubunti_Ki in 5.10 and it dont seem to work correct. But the terminal view in Kate dont work. And when02:30
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brosioi'm using alsa driver but now i don't have /dev/dsp, and i need it to work with skype how can i do ?02:30
eythianCzarAlex, can't help there sry, I really only use this kind of thing with sftp.02:30
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thoreauputicN6REJ: apt-cache search linux-source02:30
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Ubunti_KiAnd when i start Kate it says "ASSERT: "m_currentContainer==container" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.4.2/./kate/app/kateviewmanager.cpp (196)02:30
Ubunti_Kikio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found02:30
Ubunti_Kitomi@king04:~$ kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found02:30
Ubunti_Kikio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found"02:30
HobbseeRexKwonDo: you need to pick that you want to use gdm, not kdm.  I think by uninstalling kdm it does this02:30
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CzarAlexeythian, thanks for your help though. I appreciate it.02:30
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zygisany solution why I get "sh: line 1:  7195 Segmentation fault      modprobe --ignore-install snd-hda-intel" on modprobe snd-hda-intel?02:31
fatihsaam, in installation, from list02:31
eythian_jason, not strictly, no. But you could install the flashblock extension which reduces the amount of flash running overall.02:31
RexKwonDoHobbsee: trying that now, thanks02:31
topyliRexKwonDo: you can also change the display manager with the alternatives system02:31
pascalwtz up02:31
ssamdoes anyone know how to reset /etc/network/interfaces, i have messed around a bit to much02:31
N6REJthoreauputic: not found :(   I think thats the problem.02:31
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thoreauputicN6REJ: erm - it's in main02:32
nigerule 1 backup all your default configs :)02:32
Ubunti_KiHas anyone had trouble with kate? "aspecially with the inbuilt terminal" ?02:32
_jasoneythian:  does flashblock have an option for maximum instances of flash?02:32
fatihssam, installation, from list..02:32
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ssamfatih, hmm, have you tried system -> prefferences -> keyboard?02:32
fatihyepp02:32
thoreauputicN6REJ: are your sources correctly configured?02:32
eythian_jason, no, but it requires you to confirm that you want to see a given applet (you just click on it)02:32
jp7does ubuntu have mp3 support?02:32
eythian_jason, good for avoiding flash ads and so on.02:32
ssamnige, i know :-(02:32
_jasoneythian:  ok I see thanks02:32
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ElkOSlol02:32
N6REJthoreauputic: straight from the install02:32
ElkOSjp7: yeah02:32
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Ubunti_Kiyou can play mp3 with xmms in linux - jp702:33
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fatihssam, but it's shows keyboard preview, it not true.. turkish q, but not true..02:33
ssamjp7, you need to install the codecs, but its quite easy02:33
raetseljp7 take a look at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-09-16.346970338702:33
thoreauputic!info linux-source-2.6.1002:33
jp7yeah but i was wondering.. like fedora, removes mp3 stuff by default. does ubuntu do that?02:33
ubotulinux-source-2.6.10: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.10 with Ubuntu patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.10-34 (hoary), Packaged size: 36633 kB, Installed size: 36756 kB02:33
nigei can could probably paste my config up for you ssam02:33
nigehangon02:33
Khantozavrifolks, do you know if i can fool my system and mount iso as a real cd?02:33
delltonyhi can someone look at this image and help me figure out what this volume dialog is associated with it simply will not go away :( http://www.imageark.net/img.php?id=13234202:33
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Ubunti_KiDoes someone use "Kate" here? (And has experienced som problem with the inbuilt terminal)02:34
thoreauputicN6REJ: on breezy it would be 2.6.12 I guess02:34
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ssamnige, i think there is something in the install that makes one based on your hardware02:34
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huhmzit is not possible to remove the xserver-xorg-input-blaha that you don't need?02:34
nigehmm02:34
nigeI didnt think soo02:34
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N6REJthoreauputic: I've got the headers, but no source02:34
TiMiDohuhmz nope02:34
eythianKhantozavri, yeah, it's not hard. google for something like 'mounting iso linux'02:34
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Khantozavrii can mount iso, that's not a problem, but mount to /media/cdrom?02:35
thoreauputicN6REJ: you have to install it - and as you see above, its in "main"02:35
MTommyhello everyone02:35
N6REJthoreauputic: I'll look again.02:35
nigei am pretty sure ijsut settings02:35
TiMiDoyeah Khantozavri mount to /media/cdrom02:35
TiMiDoor just /cdrom02:35
TiMiDohello MTommy02:35
MTommyI have a problem with my ubuntu 5.0402:35
Khantozavrithat's easy... let me see, thx02:35
thoreauputicN6REJ: what do you need the source for?02:35
TiMiDoask MTommy02:35
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needlz_hi. i had to reinstall windows a few days ago and lost my grub mbr settings. does anyone know how i can "reinstall" grub with a knoppix cd (lol yes, i cant find my ubuntu cds :)). thanks02:36
nigessam, http://pastebin.com/38703302:36
nigethat a copy of mine02:36
nigeit has static and dhcp02:36
nige:)02:36
N6REJthoreauputic: ndiswrapper02:36
nigegive it a go02:36
ssamnige, thanks02:36
MTommyI've just installed it, everything was good; after i typed user name and password, it loads the ubuntu logo (ubuntu linux for human being)02:36
nigeno worries02:36
N6REJthoreauputic: ok, its in /usr/share02:36
MTommyafter that02:36
lllmanulllneedlz_, You need to reboot with Knoppix02:36
thoreauputic!info ndiswrapper02:36
MTommyit blockd02:36
Khantozavriwell, it tells me no media found.. however, it mounted to media/cdrom...02:36
MTommyeverything02:37
MTommymouse keyboard, capslock02:37
lllmanulllneedlz_, Then, supposing your usual root filesystem is, for example, /dev/hda202:37
needlz_lllmanulll: yep and then?02:37
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lllmanulllneedlz_, open a terminal and run chroot /dev/hda202:37
MTommyand it keep going on staing on the logo page02:37
ElkOSneedlz_: boot the cd, run grub, select the ubuntu / and install on the mbr02:37
MTommyi have ubuntu 5.04 for amd6402:37
lllmanulllneedlz_, (This filesystem needs to be mounted first)02:37
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MTommyi have a laptop with turion64 @ 1.8 ghz ati xpress200m 128mb shared02:37
lllmanulllneedlz_, Then, once you have "chroot" (changed root), run sudo grub-install /dev/hda02:38
MTommyand fujitsu 80 and 1 gb of ddr ram02:38
MTommyplease help me T_T02:38
lllmanulll(Where hda is the hard drive whose MDR you want to install grub on)02:38
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MTommyi want to stat working with linux but i cannot load it T_T02:38
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lllmanulllMTommy, What do you mean by "cannot load it" ?02:39
brownie17anyone know anything about NTLDR in windows?02:39
N6REJthoreauputic: this stupid wireless thing is getting so very frustrating... I've tried 8 different drivers, I KNOW there is some sort of a compiler problem but I can't figure it out.02:39
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nigeyer you need it brownie to run windows02:39
raetselit's the main boot loader for the OS brownie1702:39
brownie17nige, that all you know? i don't have it and i need it02:39
nigedid you kill your ntloader browmie?02:39
needlz_lllmanulll: ok thanks :) ill give it a try02:39
nigeokay02:39
MTommyit is blocked lllmanulll02:39
eythianMTommy, hey, did you every try the LiveCD?02:39
brownie17raetsel, what do you know about restoring it/02:39
eythian*ever02:39
lllmanulllneedlz_, No problem02:39
nigeput your window cd in your drive02:39
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MTommyafter i typed user name and password it blocked02:39
nigeand you can actually get a a copy of it off your winxp / win2000 / win2003 cd02:39
MTommyno eythian02:40
nigeuse the recovery mode02:40
raetselbrownie17 take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24952.html02:40
thoreauputicN6REJ: do you have build-essential installed?02:40
MTommyi tried with breezy update but it doesnt work02:40
eythianMTommy, give that a go if you have it.02:40
nigecopy it across to you c:\ root02:40
GeckoHello guys. Does anyone know of an unofficial chinese mirror, for none of the mirrors on the list makes me able to transfer with more than 12KB/s?02:40
nigeand you should be right :)02:40
MTommywhere can i take it eythian02:40
MTommy?02:40
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zygishm.. is it bad when /var/log/messages contains "apm: bios not found"?02:40
Geckos/for/as02:40
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needlz_lllmanulll: or do you think i should just backup my ~ and update to breezy? seems like its almost done :)02:41
N6REJthoreauputic: yes02:41
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raetselthough be careful if you restore NTLDR you might not be able to boot your other partitions without re-installing grup02:41
eythianMTommy, umm. It'll probably be on the ubuntu download site.02:41
needlz_lllmanulll: that would fix the mbr problem & update my system too..heh02:41
MTommylooking02:41
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MTommydownload section eythian?02:41
Khantozavrii've got so many small problmes... i want to burn iso to cd, select file, rightcklick, write to disk, and than i can't write to cd but to file.. what's wrong?02:41
lllmanulllneedlz_, Are you able to boot Linux ?02:41
programadorhello hola02:41
needlz_lllmanulll: well with a install cd :/02:41
Mateo_hi all :)  someone can remind me the website who list some wifi card compatible with linux and wep plz ??02:41
lllmanulllneedlz_, If you update to breezy, you'll certainly get a new kernel, and the installer will run grub-install for you02:42
eythianMTommy, yeah02:42
HobbseeMateo_: google.com/linux02:42
MTommyeythian what is live cd?02:42
lllmanulllneedlz_, Yeah, I guess you could do that02:42
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MTommyeythian how does it work?02:42
HobbseeMateo_: probably a good start, otherwise i wiki02:42
Ubunti_Kihow can I reinstall programs?02:42
HobbseeUbunti_Ki: sudo apt-get install programname02:42
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lllmanulllneedlz_, In that case, I don't know if you can actually upgrade from the CD if you're not running Ubuntu at that time02:42
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nigeubunti_ki, apt-get reinstall <package> I think02:43
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eythianMTommy, you download it, burn it to a CD, and use that to boot from. It's just like using ubuntu normally, but it's not actually installed on your computer02:43
drewjust installed, is the firewall running automatically?02:43
needlz_lllmanulll: hmm... right :/02:43
eythianMTommy, so when you reboot, nothing has changed02:43
MTommyh k eythian02:43
needlz_ill try02:43
MTommycan i talk to you in privte eythian? don't worry ^^'02:43
lllmanulllneedlz_, Instead, you might want to just erase your root filesystem and do a breezy clean install on it, but that would mean reinstalling all the software, and it is of course out of the question if you don't have a separate partition for /home02:43
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needlz_lllmanulll: well...i spent so much time with installing e17 :D02:44
needlz_ew02:44
raetseldrew, I think the answer is no: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/firewall02:44
brownie17enyc, you there yet?02:44
eythianMTommy, OK02:44
lllmanulllneedlz_, If you don't want to start anew, I would say : 1) Resotre your MBR with grub 2) Boot Ubuntu 3) Insert breezy CD and upgrade from it02:44
needlz_lllmanulll: a clean installation would kill that all02:44
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MTommyno it's ok forget it eythin i will ask that here02:44
N6REJthoreauputic: take at look at pastebin I put the screen output there.02:45
nigeanyone using Captive-ntfs?02:45
eythianMTommy, OK :)02:45
needlz_lllmanulll: is there any "benefit" from a clean installation?02:45
Ubunti_Kiboth choices did not work....neither reinstall nor install -nige - Hobbsee02:45
lllmanulllneedlz_, The step 1) being done with knoppix02:45
MTommyI tried to disinstall the partition that i made02:45
hyperactivecrondkrall = gui firewall solution for ubuntu02:45
lllmanulllneedlz_, Hmmm, not really02:45
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topylidrew: no firewall, but no services are listening to any ports by default anyway02:45
MTommybut when i rebot the pc, it tells me a Grub error....02:45
drewthanks all02:45
needlz_lllmanulll: heh ok...ill tr 1) 2) 3)02:45
needlz_lllmanulll: thanks again :)02:45
MTommyhow can I retore my normal boot eythian?02:45
lllmanulllneedlz_, np :)02:45
eythianMTommy, hmm, that's outside my experience a bit sorry, I've not dual booted for many years.02:46
nigeUbunti_Ki, apt-get --reinstall <package> you have to be root :)02:46
MTommyah k np eythian02:46
hyperactivecrondMTommy: do you have a knoppix / ubuntu livecd?02:46
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lllmanulllMTommy, I might be able to help you, what is your problem exactly ?02:46
thoreauputicN6REJ: ah you need to specify gcc-3.4 it seems02:46
Miikehi02:46
lllmanulllMiike, hi02:46
MTommylol great lllmanulll02:46
N6REJthoreauputic: its not there.  3.3 and higher02:46
MTommylisten i installed Ubuntu 5.04 for amd6402:47
lllmanulllMTommy, hyperactivecrond seems to know the trick as well :) Your problem is you can't choose Linux/Windows at boot ?02:47
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lllmanulllMTommy, Yes ?02:47
MTommyi have a turion64 @ 1.8 ghz, ati xpress200m with 128 mbshared02:47
MTommyops wait02:47
MTommyno no i can chose manu02:47
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MTommywhen i have linux installed on my pc i can chise02:47
MTommychose02:48
hyperactivecrondlllmanulll: no... but i've had mbr probs so02:48
raetselbrownie17 did you get your NTLDR back?02:48
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thoreauputicN6REJ:hmm - I don't know the answer, sorry - someone who has done the ndiswrapper thing might help02:48
needlz_btw does anyone know where i can get the "newest" rls's of breezy? i had a link once..where all the "daily" versions of breezy were listed :(02:48
brownie17raetsel, can someone help me? i am having real problems. i am trying to restore "NTLDR" and when i type the command in the recovery prompt (copy d:\i386\ntldr C:\) it tells me no such directory02:48
nigeanyone know how to mount ntfs partion in RW02:48
nige?02:48
MTommybut when i remove the partition appear an Grub error in the moment that i turn on the pc02:48
Ubunti_Kinige - invalid operaton02:48
nigeUbunti_Ki,  man apt-get02:48
Ubunti_Kinige - invalid operation02:48
Ubunti_Kioki02:48
nigeinvalid operation for apt-get?02:48
nigefor man apt-get?02:49
drewanother Q?  when I installed, i setup one user (me) with a password, but what's the root password as it never asked me for one?  Is it just my password?02:49
hyperactivecrondbrownie17: boot off the winbloze cd, start up recovery console, and type fixmbr02:49
SturmvogelI have a problem with users, my dad's account doesn't work, when trying to log in it complains about wrong username/password02:49
nigedid you remove apt-get ?02:49
lllmanulllMTommy, Remove the partition ? Which partition ? Why did you remove it ?02:49
Sturmvogelrecreating the user didn't help02:49
brownie17hyperactivecrond, did that, to no avail02:49
MTommyLet's start form the beginning02:49
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N6REJthoreauputic: *sigh* ok... I'm too frustrated to continue this for nite... I've spent 4 days on this and only have half of 2 machines running.02:49
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brownie17drew,  you have to set one manually02:49
raetseldo a dir and cd etc on the D: drive see if you can find where it is02:49
lllmanullldrew, Ubuntu's philosophy is to not allow the root user by default02:49
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hyperactivecrondbrownie17: use grub02:49
MTommywhen i installed linux i made a partition of my hd, one for windows nd one for linux.02:49
nigebrownie17, if you do an fdisk02:49
lllmanullldrew, You can do everything root can do by just using sudo, and your own password02:49
nigewhat drives does it show you?02:49
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thoreauputicN6REJ: if you can catch bob2 he might know what to do02:49
MTommyand the end of the installation process, the program asked me if i wanted to use grub to have a dual boot02:50
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hyperactivecrondbrownie17: pastebin sudo /sbin/fdisk -l02:50
lllmanullldrew, But if you really want to enable root, just sudo passwd02:50
brownie17hyperactivecrond, without the NTLDR installed, i cannot see winxp in grub02:50
MTommyi sayd yes and everything is working correctly02:50
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MTommybut02:50
N6REJbob2: you busy?02:50
N6REJk02:50
hyperactivecrondbrownie17: yes you can02:50
drewthanks, different to other distros I've tried, but that's cool.  I get that02:50
MTommywhen i erase linux and the partition that i made02:50
Ubunti_Kiwhich kate should I install on 5.10 or how?02:50
MTommyi cannot load anymore windows02:50
hyperactivecrondMTommy: pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst02:51
MTommybecause it says that it is accured an error of Grub02:51
lllmanulllMTommy, How did you erase it ?02:51
brownie17hyperactivecrond, well i cannot see winxp in grub02:51
kbrooksbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb.02:51
hyperactivecrondbrownie17: hang on ive got a link02:51
N6REJi've never had this much problem getting a distro to work02:51
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MTommyjust removing the partition lllmanulll02:51
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agagahis gnome bloated?02:51
hyperactivecrondagagah: no02:51
N6REJI was impressed with my sons install as it was smooth as silk until it failed to recognize the nic02:51
nigeUbunti_Ki, did you do an rm /etc/apt?02:51
brownie17raetsel, i used ubuntu to find where the files were, and the guidei was given was correct, but still it doesn not work02:51
agagahhyperactivecrond, i hear that it is and that kde is really light02:51
lllmanulllMTommy, Yes, but from where ? From a linux program ? From Windows ? DId you want to install any Linux distro on the same partition, for instance ?02:52
raetselwhat make of NIC is N6REJ?02:52
Ubunti_Kino  nige but I did manage to remove kate02:52
lllmanulllagagah, GNOME is fine :)02:52
brownie17hyperactivecrond, what is the link?02:52
nigeokay02:52
ElkOSagagah: gnome is bloated, but not slow02:52
N6REJraetsel: belkin, using the broadcom chipset... f5d700102:52
MTommylllmanulll i format the linux partition from windows02:52
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nigebut when you go apt-get reinstall kate did it work02:52
nige?02:52
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MTommyformated+02:52
nigewell apt-get --reinstall kate02:52
N6REJraetsel: its a wireless02:52
agagahElkOS, bloated as in code02:52
raetselhmm sorry brownie17 can't take you any further02:52
MTommyso it was again ntfs lllmanulll02:52
lllmanulllMTommy, Okay, so now you want to install Linux again ? Or you just want to use Windows ?02:52
topyliapt-get install --reinstall actually02:52
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Ubunti_KiI just want to fix KATE!02:53
brownie17hyperactivecrond, nige, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/287902:53
MTommyno no i just want to use windows lllmanulll02:53
ElkOSagagah: faster than kde and keeps my cpu temp 10 degrees lower02:53
raetselN6REJ I have a belkin and could not get NDIS wrappers to work, it uses the rt2500 chipset in my case so I used serail monkey drivers for that, let me find the link.....02:53
nigehmm02:53
MTommyi mean i just what that at the boot windows start by its own like it was at he beginning lllmanulll02:53
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ElkOSagagah: you notice the bloatage when compiling from source ;)02:53
lllmanulllMTommy, Hmm, I see02:53
nigeif you could mount your hda with rw permission02:53
N6REJraetsel: ty!02:53
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nigeyou could just copy your ntloader across02:54
N6REJraetsel: my big problem seems to be gcc 3.4 is missing.02:54
nigebut i am not sure how to do that with an ntfs partion02:54
agagahElkOS, great thanks.....im actually a new linux user and was wondering that if linux was to become popular like windows that it would get really insecure and have viruses.02:54
Ubunti_KiDoes someone in here use Kate or have tips how to get Kate to work??02:54
lllmanulllMTommy, Well, everything would be like before if you reinstalled Windows, but I'm not sure you're ready to do that...02:54
nigei think you need another package for that02:54
nige?02:54
raetselN6REJ if your card is on this list :- http://ralink.rapla.net/02:54
Ubunti_KiTell me which nige?02:54
brownie17nige, i was fairly sure it is impossible through ubuntu. but maybe with another package it is possible. though atm i am running through livecd02:54
raetselthen this is a great tutorial to get it running with rt2500 drivers https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/02:55
MTommylllmanulll the problem it's that Grub is still installed on my pc, and it's not working because somthing is missing02:55
nigehmmm02:55
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nigeit shoudl be possible02:55
topyliMTommy: for win98, you can do fdisk /mbr to get a new boot record. on 2k and xp it's fixmbr02:55
N6REJnope, its a 7001 instead of the 701002:55
nigethere is an package called captive-ntfs,,, that shoudl do it02:55
hyperactivecrondMTommy: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=781202:55
nigebut i havent installed it yet02:55
agagahElkOS, i dont compile from source...do you use gentoo?02:55
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lllmanulllMTommy, topyli is right, and you need to run that from the Windows shell ("DOS like")02:55
MTommytopyli how should i do for XP?02:56
WhyvasLThow do i remove the setting up raid devices and the network devices and the getting time from the time server at startup?02:56
nigeUbunti_Ki, its should just be apt-get --reinstall kate02:56
nigethat should work02:56
ElkOSagagah: did lfs, then gentoo, then ubuntu - and now I have all this spare time on my hands :)02:56
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Ubunti_Kiwhen we install stuff, are linux programs allways in a same server or do we get them from different  servers?02:56
N6REJraetsel: I'm sure it has something to do with the make file wanting gcc 3.4 but I don't know why its being so picky.02:56
agagahElkOS, ever tried slackware?  why use slackware over ubuntu?02:56
topyliMTommy: i have hardly ever seen xp, but i guess it's like 2k in this matter. boot from a windows rescue disk and do fixmbr02:56
ElkOSagagah: slack was my first back in '9302:56
Ubunti_KiI dont wanna reinstall kate, cause I know it wont fixit. I just wonder why kate wont work in 5.04 or 5.10?02:57
agagahElkOS, is it better than ubu?02:57
ElkOSagagah: dunno, until now, I like the debian way the most02:57
sleptnige: Ubunti_Ki: apt-get  install --reinstall02:57
MTommytoply: so i need to make a boot disk for windows ad do fixmbr02:57
hyperactivecrondElkOS and agagah join #ubuntu-offtopic. we have too much noise here02:57
brownie17nige, is captive-ntfs in synaptic?02:57
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WhyvasLTbrownie17, try searching02:58
brownie17WhyvasLT, i cannot compile, so it would be no good02:58
ElkOShyperactivecrond: gp02:58
raetselN6REJ hmm can't help you there though when I used NDIS before I don't recall needing the whole source or a relink etc... have you looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=broadcom+belkin02:58
nigei dont think  so brownie02:58
brownie17WhyvasLT, i searched in synaptic02:58
nigeslept, its apt-get --reinstall kate02:58
nigei believe02:58
hyperactivecrondbrownie17: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:58
WhyvasLTwhy can't you compile02:58
Rabit21Anybody ever not have their CUPS server start after install?02:58
topyliMTommy: i guess the xp install cd has a "rescue mode" or such you can boot to. then you get a command prompt02:58
thoreauputicnige: sudo apt-get install --reinstall02:58
Ubunti_KiI wonder when we are installing programs, and when we download them to Linux, are they from Ubuntu servers, or like some other servers?02:58
brownie17hyperactivecrond, even with the help of people in here i do not have the technical expertise to compile. i m also using the livecd02:59
MTommyah yeah yeah toply...i'm so stupid... lol02:59
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thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: from synaptic, they are on ubuntu servers02:59
Ubunti_KiIn kate my inbuilt terminal dont work.02:59
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N6REJraetsel: NO! ty!02:59
hyperactivecrondbrownie17: it's not hard... :)02:59
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: unless you add 3rd party repos (not recommended)02:59
hyperactivecrond!gcc02:59
ubotuwell, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.02:59
MTommytoply: did you read my other problem too?02:59
Ubunti_KiThanks thoreauputic03:00
raetselgood luck N6REJ03:00
sleptnige: no , its like i said03:00
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WhyvasLThow do i remove the setting up raid devices and the network devices and the getting time from the time server at startup?03:00
topyliMTommy: no, missed it03:00
nigeokay :)03:00
N6REJraetsel: ty, do you know how to tell gcc to NOT look for 3.4?03:00
MTommytoply can i explain it to you too?03:00
topylisure03:00
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Ubunti_KiSo, now I can reinstall kate and install, but how do I do to get it work. Have anyone tried?03:00
raetselhmm no N6REJ never come across that03:01
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N6REJraetsel: ok.. ty.03:01
Ashenyo-- I cant access apache from the internet. :S. Its shared on port 8080, when I do a netstat -a I get that I'm listening on 8080 (tcp6)...03:01
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thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: kate works fine here...03:01
raetselurw N6REJ :o)03:01
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sleptUbunti_Ki: tried what ? kate ? install --reinstall?03:01
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Ashenportfowarding is setup properly and all that jazz.03:01
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Ubunti_KiDoes youre terminal work or is it dead and grey thoreauputic?03:01
raetselcall back when you have it all working N6REJ we love a happy ending03:01
Ubunti_KiIn kate thoreauputic03:01
Ashenany ideas?03:02
N6REJraetsel: I will03:02
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: looks perfectly normal and functional here03:02
MTommytoply: so, i've installed ubuntu for amd64 (I have HP laptop with Trurion64 @ 1.8 ghz, 1 gb ddr ram ati xpress128 and fujistu 80gb), and everithing was ok. After i type user name and password (to enter in linux) it start the music and ubuntu logo, and after that everything it is blocked03:02
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MTommytoply: really everthing, even capslock03:02
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: hit F7 for a command line...03:02
MTommytoply: and always in the same palce03:02
Ubunti_Kino slept, tried if kate terminal works03:02
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soxfunalguien habla espaol?03:03
MTommyToply: i had no error during the installation process....i tried several times to install it but it doesn't work....03:03
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eythian!es03:03
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:03
soxfungracias03:04
hyperactivecrondsi uboutu03:04
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Rabit21AIWS Anybody ever not have their CUPS server start after install?03:04
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hyperactivecrond!de03:04
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe03:04
Ubunti_KiNow I get: tomi@king04:~$ kate03:04
topyliMTommy: no idea03:04
Ubunti_Kikdeinit: Aborting. No write access to '/home/tomi/.ICEauthority'.03:04
Ubunti_Kikate: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.03:04
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raetsel!en03:04
uboturaetsel: Are you on ritalin?03:04
hyperactivecrondhehe raetsel03:05
raetsellol03:05
MTommyToply:do you how what it can be?03:05
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failbithi03:05
raetselwell it had to be done03:05
failbiti have a problem with mounting my fat32 device with ubuntu5.0403:05
failbitwhen i try to mount the partition my system crashes03:05
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: sudo rm ~/.ICEauthority, log out, log in - and don't run stuff as root in GUI03:05
failbitwhat could be the problem?03:05
Hendriccan anyone help me? i just installed breezy.. then i got this error when opening programs that requires root (e.g. synaptics) Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root:03:06
Hendric Child terminated with 100 status03:06
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: I'm betting your .ICEauthority is owned by root03:06
sleptfailbit: give the command you use to mount03:06
failbitslept i use this one: mount /dev/hda2 /home/failbit/data03:06
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failbitwhen i try to use -t vfat it doesnt work03:07
hwaarahey03:07
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Ashenwtf... there is no process bound to port 8080... its just listening with nothing attached too it.03:07
AshenO_o03:07
hwaaraI have a FAQ... how do I start out developing for ubuntu? Couldn't find any guides for this03:08
raetselwas that an install or an upgrade Hendric?03:08
lllmanulllfailbit, So what happens when you run this command ?03:08
MTommyToply: did you understand?03:08
GeckoHello guys. Does anyone know of an unofficial chinese mirror, as none of the mirrors on the list makes me able to transfer with more than 12KB/s?03:08
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Hendricraetsel, a standard install...03:08
topyliMTommy: i've never seen that happen, don't know what it can be03:08
failbitlllmanulll: when using without -t vfat the system holds and no input possible... no keyboard, no mouse03:08
fraser!grub03:08
ubotufrom memory, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting03:08
lllmanulllGecko, Not aware that there is such a thing... Have you searched for it with Google ?03:08
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Geckolllmanulll: yes, and the only one mentioned isn't working03:09
MTommytoply: uff nobody can help me.....03:09
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Redleerhow i know what kernel version im using?03:09
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lllmanulllfailbit, Ah, weird03:09
Hendricif i install breezy i got that error twice out of 10... i dunno wats d cause.. i just reinstall if i got that error. now i was curious.03:09
kbrookspoke03:09
MTommyIs there here a LINUX EXPERT?!?!?!?03:09
lllmanulllRedleer, uname -a03:09
kbrooksMTommy: ask03:09
MTommyToply thank you anyway Toply03:09
thoreauputichwaara:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU03:09
Geckolllmanulll: right now I am searching through a chinese ubuntuforum, but it's very hard as I am not chinese :)03:10
Redleerty03:10
MTommykbrooks: i had no error during the installation process....i tried several times to install it but it doesn't work....03:10
lllmanulllMTommy, It seems you rather need a Windows expert :)03:10
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raetselHnedrix, if you do a sudo -s03:10
MTommymbrooks03:10
MTommyops03:10
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raetselHendric sorry03:10
lllmanulllGecko, I see :)03:10
fraserhyperactivecrond, i forgot to restor grub. feel like walking me through mounting the HD again?03:10
lllmanulllGecko, Well, at least the URL wouldn't be in Chinese :-p03:10
raetselthen type id what does it show you? hendric03:10
Ashenanyone know what file you use to set which port apache listens on in breezy?03:10
MTommyMbrooks: i installed ubuntu 5.04 for amd64 (i have a laptop with turion64)03:10
binadoes anyone know what support for blackberries is like in linux? Is it possible to syncronise calendars with kontact or evolution calendars (or any other software calendars)?03:10
Ashen(apache2 that is)03:10
MTommyMbrooks: durign the installation everything went good03:11
Hendricraetsel, can't get it.. can you expand?03:11
GhoatDoes anyone know where I can get my kernal ring buffer messages debugged?03:11
Geckolllmanulll: I know, but the download page refers directly back to the official ubuntu one (in europe or wherever)03:11
fraserhyperactivecrond, you there? you said you would be03:11
Ubunti_KiOk, still the same weird thing with Kate. The terminal view gets grey and I cant type anything there. Do you understand what I mean?03:11
fraserhyperactivecrond, its brownie17 here, different username03:11
MTommymbrooks: after i typed user name and password, and after it appeard the music and the logo sign03:11
MTommymbrooks: everything is blockd03:11
MTommyreally everything, even capslock03:11
raetselsorry Hendric, can you open a terminal window first?03:11
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MTommymbrooks: what it can be?03:12
failbitis there a possibility to get all partitions shown which are not mounted?03:12
raetselHendric: then type : sudo -s    ( this will ask you for your password )03:12
Ubunti_Kikate03:12
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raetselhi Brownie17 any joy yet?03:12
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brownie17raetsel, nope, forgot to restore grub03:12
brownie17hyperactivecrond, you there?03:12
sleptfailbit: fdisk -l03:13
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: did you fix your .ICEauthority ?03:13
Hendricraetsel, done with that, wat next?03:13
hwaarathoreauputic, thanks!03:13
MTommymbrooks: i lost any hope, i tried to install it severla times but it never worked....03:13
brownie17can anyone walk me through mounting my usual partition through livecd?03:13
thoreauputichwaara: no worries :)03:13
failbitslept nothing happens when i try fdisk -l03:13
raetselyou should now be in a shell as root, type : id to check03:13
Ubunti_Kiyes I did thoreauputic03:13
thoreauputichwaara: also see #ubuntu-motu03:13
MTommymbrooks i even tried to install the version for intel x86 with the same result03:13
sleptfailbit: sudo03:14
brownie17can anyone walk me through mounting my usual partition through livecd?03:14
eythianMTommy, I'd strongly suggest trying the newer version of Ubuntu03:14
Ubunti_Kihow do I do when I want to reply to you here in X-chat client?03:14
MTommyeythian 5.10?03:14
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hyperactivecrondbrownie17: hyep03:14
hwaarathoreauputic, is this for those who want to fix bugs in ubuntu too? I don't want to maintain a package03:14
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki:  for example, thore <hit tab key >03:14
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raetselHendric, then just type : synaptic   and see if that runs ok ( this is not a fix just an investigation )03:14
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brownie17hyperactivecrond, what happened to you? i forgot to restore grub, walk me through it?03:15
ablyssprivate replies u can do /notice <nickname> <message>03:15
eythianMTommy, yeah03:15
failbitslept thanks03:15
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ablysshi all03:15
thoreauputichwaara: sure - just ask in #ubuntu-motu what you can do to help03:15
failbitslept: i found out why the system crashes03:15
Ubunti_Kithoreauputic, nice.03:15
failbitslept: and now it works03:15
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eythianfailbit, why was it crashing?03:15
Ubunti_KiI can use Kate03:15
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sleptfailbit: messd up partition numbers ?03:15
failbiteythian: because its a logical partition03:15
kbrooksi need the ubuntu logo03:15
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kbrookslink?03:15
Hendricit opens ok.. d error pops up when i close synaptics.. but running it on the root terminal didn't pop the error.03:15
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failbitslept: and i tryed to mount the extended03:16
Ubunti_KiBut you know thoreauputic , i cannot use terminal in the kate windows.03:16
eythianfailbit, ah, OK. Although it shouldn't crash. That sounds like a serious bug.03:16
failbiteythian... yes i know... on my suse-system it worked .. mh03:16
MTommymbrooks any suggestion ???03:16
failbiteythian ... but i dont want to use suse anymore03:16
Hendricraetsel,  it opens ok.. d error pops up when i close synaptics.. but running it on the root terminal didn't pop the error.03:16
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: well, I don't know what the problem is , sorry03:16
raetselhmm ok synaptic type : exit to get back to being your user then type sudo synaptic03:16
MTommymbrooks: the ubuntu logo is the one that says Ubuntu, Linux for human beings03:16
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kbrooksMTommy: a direct link to it pls03:17
raetselhendric then exit that and you might see a bit more of a diagnostic error message03:17
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thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: you can try making a new user, and see if that user can use kate: if so, you have a problem in your .kde directories03:17
raetselhmm ok hendric type : exit to get back to being your user then type sudo synaptic03:17
Ubunti_Kimmm03:17
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sleptbrownie17: go to terminal, sudo su, mount /dev/hd.. /mnt/, chroot /mnt, mount /proc, grub-install (hd..), done.03:18
Hendricraetsel, i just did.. no errors poped up... running it thru the menu gets an error03:18
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: ie your $HOME/.kde/something to do with kate03:18
MTommykbrooks:http://www.ubuntu.com/03:18
MTommythat logo03:18
MTommyit the same that appear at linux start03:18
Hendricraetsel, and i realized something... synaptics doesn't use my GNOME theme.. i wonder why.03:18
raetselHendric : and that was as your normal user not in a sudo -s shell?03:18
MTommyright after you typed username and password03:18
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Hendricraetsel, that was in normal user..03:19
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MTommykbrooks: and then everything blocked03:19
thoreauputicHendric: because you ran it as root, and root doesn't have the "human" theme or whatever03:19
Hendricthoreauputic, ah ok... i got it now.03:19
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Ubunti_Kiwhat does ie mean03:20
raetselok Hendric, try : gksudo synaptic as your user and see if that has any errors03:20
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: "that is"03:20
Ubunti_Kioh03:20
brownie17Ubunti_Ki, for example03:20
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thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: from latin "id est" :)03:20
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thoreauputicbrownie17: no, that's e.g03:20
brownie17thoreauputic, really? cool. never knew it03:20
eythianbrownie17, 'eg' is 'for example' :)03:20
brownie17thoreauputic, oh yeah!03:20
Ubunti_KiSo ill try now log out ang log in with an other user and then ill run kate? thoreauputic03:20
brownie17thoreauputic, is e.g. latin too?03:20
eythianbrownie17, eg=exemplia gratia03:20
thoreauputicbrownie17: yes03:21
brownie17nicwe03:21
MTommykbrooks: you don't know what it can be right?03:21
bullraiserhi, would anyone direct me what the channel for installation and gnome display help for ubuntu?03:21
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: try with an experimental user, yes03:21
eythianbrownie17, just remember: quidquid latinae dictum sit, altum viditur!03:21
Hendricraetsel, no errors.. then i tried gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic, it gives out the error03:21
brownie17eythian, ok....???03:21
Secreth`Xdoes someone know something about amaroK?03:21
eythianbrownie17, "anything said in Latin, seems profound" :)03:21
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: if that user can run kate OK, then it's a config in ~/.kde most likely03:21
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Ubunti_Kitheres one small problem, my games, mahjong has very strange colors, anyone else who knows about this?03:21
raetselita vero eythian :o)03:22
eythianraetsel, :D03:22
brownie17eythian, hahah it's true.03:22
MTommyraetsel: anche io ^^'03:22
raetselhmm ok Hendric, anything else displayed03:22
brownie17eythian, you speak it? i thought it was pretty much dead03:22
Ubunti_KiIll be back thoreauputic03:22
eythianbrownie17, I studied it for a number of years, I remember bits, but a lot of it is fading.03:23
MTommykbrooks: are you still there? did you understand what is the problem?03:23
raetsel60% of the words we speak here are from latin root brownie17 so it's not dead, it lives on03:23
brownie17raetsel, i guess your right03:23
Hendricraetsel, nothing more just that "failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as root: Child terminated with 100 status"03:23
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thoreauputicraetsel: brownie17  ---> #ubuntu-latin *grin*03:24
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raetselhmmm I have seen that a few times myself hendric but not for ages03:24
raetsel!latin03:24
uboturaetsel: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:24
topylibrownie17: i only remember some very useful phrases, such as "domus tua est gemma pompeiorum" :)03:24
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MTommykbrooks: are you still there?03:24
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eythiantopyli, you're house is *something* in Pompei?03:24
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Hendricraetsel, so how can i fix this? doesn't harm me.. but is annoying and not normal.03:24
eythian*your03:24
topylibrownie17: i don't know if people would take that as sarcasm these days :)03:25
topylieythian: it's the gem of pompeii03:25
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brownie17topyli, unfortunatly, i did not understand it, so your humour was lost on me, my good fellow03:25
eythiantopyli, ah, duh, I should have got that :)03:25
topylieythian: which is not much these days :)03:25
bullraiseris there any seperate channels for ubuntu installation/desktop ?03:25
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thoreauputicbullraiser: this is it03:25
eythiantopyli, well, yes :)03:26
sleptbullraiser: no, just ask03:26
MTommykbrooks: ehi are you still with us?03:26
topylibrownie17: well, it's latin so it's something very profound =)03:26
smokey_mcpotAnyone out there willing to give me a hand setting up wireless on laptop on breezy??03:26
raetselhmm hendric there is a bit of info here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6346.html03:26
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brownie17topyli, haha03:26
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raetselthat talks about entries in /etc/hosts ??03:26
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Hendricraetsel, opening the site...03:26
bullraisercool.03:26
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Ubunti_Kithoreauputic, it did not work there either. Can i show you in private what message it showed when I started it.03:27
MTommyseems that kbrooks went away without giving me an answer... T_T03:27
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: no, paste it on the pastebin so everyone can help you03:28
brownie17if i show someone my fdisk, can they tell me the exact commands i need to use to restore grub?03:28
Ubunti_Kihere?03:28
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: NO03:28
Ubunti_Kiits dam many lines03:28
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: on the pastebin03:28
bullraiserhow to set the transparency to the gnome menus apart from the panel?03:28
thoreauputic!paste03:28
ubotupaste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text03:28
Ubunti_Kiwhere is pastebin?03:28
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: scroll up03:28
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thoreauputicubotu paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text03:29
ubotu...but paste is already something else...03:29
smokey_mcpotHow do people ask questions here, is there a certain way to do it?03:29
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speelnope just ask03:29
brownie17can someone read the following fdisk output, and tell me the exact commands to restore grub? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/287903:29
thoreauputicubotu: good bot03:29
ubotu:)03:29
smokey_mcpoti have wireless question on breezy03:29
Ubunti_KiI cant find pastebin03:29
thoreauputicsmokey_mcpot: preferably intelligently ;-)03:29
smokey_mcpotthe card seems to be installed but i have no lights03:29
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: the URL has been posted twice already03:30
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: just go to  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/03:30
raetselhmm hendric  that stuff about the visudo might be of interest....03:30
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bullraiseri also need to monitor the log messages size on a dialy routine so that it doesnt flood my disk space. Is there any tools to monitor it?03:30
apocxpsmokey_mcpot: how do you know the card is installed?03:31
sudonimHi I just saw DVD Jon's instructions for compiling vlc with WMV9 support in Breezy - http://nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/ . Can this be done in Hoary?03:31
topylibullraiser: you could just set cron to mail the size to you every day03:31
sudonimsome of the packages dont seem to be there03:31
[wiebel] hmm03:31
smokey_mcpotlspci, breezy picked it up on install. ifconfig - wlan0. iwconfig03:32
[wiebel] how can I replace the kubuntu splash theme with the ubuntu splash theme?03:32
apocxpsmokey_mcpot: try iwlist wlan0 scanning03:32
eythianbullraiser: I think whatever ubuntu uses for a logrotate system should be able to do it03:32
[wiebel] does that mean i have to alter the initrd file?03:32
Ubunti_Kicheck now in pastebin my message when i start Kate first time thoreauputic03:33
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apocxpsmokey_mcpot: if you get results back, then the card is working properly.03:33
Dreamglideris there any bit diffrence on kernel 2-6-12-8-386  and 2-6-12-8-686  ?03:33
bullraiseryes, ofcourse I can use cron jobs to do that. I was interested, if any built-in tools for log/disk monitor, cpu usuage etc.,03:33
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MTommyis there here any LINUX EXPERT that can help me?03:33
topyliDreamglider: optimized for different processors at compile time03:33
hyperactivecrondMTommy: whats the problem03:33
kemikMTommy:  ask your question03:34
smokey_mcpotapocxp: interface does not support scanning: device temp unavail03:34
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MTommyok03:34
fredywhen i try to update my kernel to 2.6.12.9.22, i get a buffer_write error, anyone get this too?03:34
MTommyI've installed Ubuntu 5.04 for amd6403:34
MTommythe istallation was good, witout any error03:34
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Ubunti_KiLol, thoreauputic. It looks difficult?03:34
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MTommyi lunch linux  from the grub03:34
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: how did you install kate?03:34
MTommyit load everthing correctly and appear the user name and pasword page03:35
MTommyi type them03:35
Ubunti_Kihow, sudo apt-get install kate     -   thoreauputic03:35
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: are you using kubuntu or ubuntu ?03:35
MTommythen it start a music (like the one of windows)03:35
kemikMTommy:  ask it on one lineplease03:35
Ubunti_Kiubuntu    -   thoreauputic03:35
MTommyok sorry i wll start again03:35
hyperactivecrondMTommy: summarize03:35
Dreamglidertopyli, ok my new Intel P4 Extreme HT 3.01Ghz has the 368 and my older laptop with Intelp4 1.7Ghz  has the 686. i think my newer ps should have the 686 kernel allso03:35
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raetselwell time for me to go and with so much hanging in the balance..........03:36
apocxpsmokey_mcpot: hmmm... i've had a similar issue. the problem was that the wrong driver was being loaded...03:36
KRomeleoNwhy am i to cant install ubuntu?03:36
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topyliDreamglider: yes03:36
MTommyI've installed ubuntu 5.04 for amd64 (i've a turion 64) and everthing was good. after i typed the user name and password and it appear the ubuntu logo my pc get blocked03:36
KRomeleoNi cant get the partitioner to work03:36
raetselwill brownie17 restore his NTLDR? will N6REJ get his wifi working, will Hendric track the mysterious gksudo problem.......03:36
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smokey_mcpothow would i remove the existing, i was thinking about an ndiswrapper install using xp INF03:36
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: your commandlin still won't work?03:36
MTommytotally even capslock03:36
apocxpsmokey_mcpot: what's your card's model03:36
thoreauputic*commandline03:36
Dreamglidertopyli can i update tke kernel ?03:36
raetselsomeone tell me how it all turns out03:36
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smokey_mcpotdlink 650+ pcmcia03:37
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raetselbye for now......03:37
Loevborgcan anyone confirm that "xorg-driver-fglrx" is not on the breezy rc cds?03:37
N6REJlol03:37
topyliDreamglider: apt-get install linux-image-68603:37
sudonimMTommy: Try the "live-cd"03:37
MTommyI dont know what to do. Can it be that i have some hardware problems?03:37
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: most of that stuff is just warnings, not errors03:37
KRomeleoNi keep getting "no /root" on install....am i retarded or does the partitiner suck?03:37
Ubunti_Kinope thoreauputic ..... hmmm i dont know03:37
sudonimMTommy: If this also happens with the live-cd then most likely it is a configuration problem or it is your harddrive03:37
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MTommysudomin: ok i will try with that one03:38
sudonimMTommy: if it doesnt happen I mean03:38
Ubunti_Kilast rows, it says "kate: WARNING: Can't open /home/test/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml03:38
Ubunti_Kikio"     -     thoreauputic03:38
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apocxpsmokey_mcpot: check these instructions out http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu03:38
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MTommysudomin if it happens even with the live cd that means that i have hardware problem?03:39
sudonimMTommy: Not necessarily - just some hardware incompatible with Ubuntu03:39
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MTommyKbrooks: are you back finally ^^'03:39
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thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: *shrug* I can't see anything in that output that would be relevant - but I'm no kde expert03:39
sudonimMTommy: I would also try the i386 live cd to see if it also happens03:39
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apocxpsmokey_mcpot: make sure you remove that ACX driver.03:39
MTommysudomin: so i cannot install ubuntu...i tried even intel x8603:40
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thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: so i don't know why you are having this problem really, sorry03:40
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Hendricraetsel, in the visudo.. my sudoers file is correct..  it didn't help. the loopback solution doesn't help too.. if i reinstall this.. im sure this will be fixed.. but problems are better fixed than left hanging. any more solution?03:40
Ubunti_Kiok but when I start Kate again it says - ASSERT: "m_currentContainer==container" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.4.2/./kate/app/kateviewmanager.cpp (196)03:40
Ubunti_Kikio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found03:40
Ubunti_Ki" - thoreauputic03:40
max_CT_ITNEW WEB PROTOCOL UNDER GPL LICENSE03:40
max_CT_IThttp://netsukuku.freaknet.org/03:40
KRomeleoNcan anyhone help me just with installation? i have a scsi hd thats 40 gb, partyitioned as 700mb and 36gb. i cant get ubuntu to install. i get /root error03:40
smokey_mcpotalright cheers apocxp, if your still here in 30min or so ill you know. thanks for the help03:40
apocxpsmokey_mcpot: sure03:40
sudonimMTommy: If the x86 version also does not work, I think maybe your hardware is causing the error with Ubuntu - Did you have windows on this computer?03:41
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Ubunti_Kithoreauputic: it says when I star now "ASSERT: "m_currentContainer==container" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.4.2/./kate/app/kateviewmanager.cpp (196)03:41
Ubunti_Kikio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found03:41
Ubunti_Ki"03:41
MTommysudomin: yep, i tried and it doesnt work, and i have windows xp03:41
xophErHow do I change the menu-bar icon? (Its the ubuntu logo now, but I want to have my custom one there instead..) Ive tried renaming and replacing /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png but it didnt help, before I dist-upgraded yesterday it worked fine though..03:42
sudonimMTommy: Windows also does not work?03:42
Ubunti_Kiwhats a thumbcreator?03:42
dennishcan anyone help me configure wireless on my averatec 3250? Railink card03:42
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thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: don't repeat please - i saw it before: and as I said, i don't know what your problem is - I can't really help you03:42
MTommysudomin: nono windows works perfectly....03:42
Ubunti_Kiok, many thanks. Gotta go now. But keep in touch. thanks again.03:42
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MTommysudomin: the strange think is that i don't get any error during the installation or during the initialization of ubuntu03:43
Bateau_where can i find php? i mean the "exe" file. i need to start this script as a prosess. and that is done with php(.exe) file03:43
sudonimMTommy: Does it freeze in the middle of the sound?03:43
MTommykbrooks: ehi, did you discover somthing?03:43
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MTommysudomi: no, it finish the sound, it finish to load the ubuntu logo and the it freeze03:44
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MTommySudomin: but the sound it's not clear, it swap a little bit03:44
sudonimMTommy: There are two things I can think of for this problem - either a driver error or a hard drive problem03:45
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MTommysudomin : hmmmm ok03:46
sudonimMTommy: Trying the live-cd will eliminate the hard drive as the cause of the problem - if you still have the problem, maybe try the new suse openlinux 10.0. This is a brand new distribution and may have better support for your new hardware03:46
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MTommysudomin: so there's no slution for my problem03:46
MTommysudomin: do you have the link?03:47
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Ubunti_KiI will lates take a screenshot and put it pastebin, so you can see what the problem is. Please remind me to do this if you are bored.03:48
Ubunti_Kilaaaateeeeer03:48
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MTommysudomin: do you have a link?03:48
drucerToo bad we don't have all the multimedia goods with Breezy yet.03:49
hyperactivecronddrucer: define goods03:50
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Bateau_where can i find php? i mean the "exe" file. i need to start this script as a prosess. and that is done with php(.exe) file03:50
drucerWell, the usual stuff you will need to install afterwards. Sun Java, firefox Java plugin, Win32codecs..03:50
hyperactivecrondBateau_: find php03:50
kbrookshyperactivecrond: w32codecs03:50
hyperactivecrond!java03:50
ubotu[java]  to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java03:50
kbrooksetc03:50
hyperactivecrond!w32codecs03:51
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)03:51
kbrooks!+w32codecs03:51
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)03:51
kbrooks:)03:51
hyperactivecrondkbrooks: :P03:51
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Bateau_hyperactivecrond: that does not work. and locate displays to many ressults03:51
fekoO(brooks was here)03:51
hyperactivecrondBateau: are you sure it's installed?03:51
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Bateau_hyperactivecrond: yes.03:51
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phoenixbyrdare there any tools out there that help making ur own distro easier?03:51
hyperactivecrondBateau_: look around in synaptic03:51
drucerubotu, thanks!03:51
ubotudrucer: gern geschehen03:52
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hyperactivecrondphoenixbyrd: deb based?03:52
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phoenixbyrdyea03:52
MTommysudomin: have you any idea where can i find that linux?03:52
hyperactivecrondphoenixbyrd: www.componentizedlinux.org03:52
phoenixbyrdtyty03:52
Bateau_hyperactivecrond: look for what? i KNOW php is installed... im runing a phpbased site on the same pc... :P03:52
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kiko_fudhey03:52
kiko_fudguys03:52
kiko_fudthe powerpc livecd03:52
kiko_fudpreview release03:52
kiko_fudis beautiful03:52
MTommysudomin :are you there???03:52
needhelp!apt-get03:52
ubotufrom memory, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/03:52
hyperactivecrondBateau_: do a phpinfo script; it should say where it is03:52
sudonimMTommy: http://www.opensuse.org/Released_Version03:53
WhyvasLThow do i remove the setting up raid devices and the network devices and the getting time from the time server at startup?03:53
MTommysudomin: great ^^'03:53
sudonimMTommy: I would recommend ubuntu over suse though03:53
hyperactivecrondMTommy: opensuse's great, but not done03:53
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drucerI would be great to have a graphical frontend for all the extra stuff - let's say we have appplication "installmultimedia" and when you start it, you could pick what you want to install. You know, all that extra stuff. And then the application would just execute the commands you will find in www.ubuntuguide.org and all the extra stuff would be installed without too much hassle.03:53
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MTommyHyper what do you mean with not done?03:54
sudonimdrucer: Apparently ubuntu guide breaks your system03:54
hyperactivecrondMTommy: opensuse is trying to make suse 10.0; it's not fully done yet03:54
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MTommyok hyper thank you03:55
drucersudonim, yeah some of the hints are not working apparently.03:55
drucerBut if it would be maintained with care and there would be a graphical frontend to install all that stuff, it would seriously rock!03:55
MTommyok guy need to go03:55
MTommysee ya ll03:55
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sudonimdrucer: I agree that it would be nice to be able to run apt-get install multimedia to get a fully functional player with all the codecs03:56
kbrooksI can't login to the ubuntu wiki with my login/pass from launchpad. what's wrong?03:56
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drucersudonim, or just pick with your mouse what you want to install.03:56
sudonimdrucer: Even better!03:56
kbrookssudonim: yes it breaks your system03:56
drucerIt shouldn't be too hard to program an application like that.03:56
kbrooks!ubuntuguide03:56
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.03:56
drucerBut the problem is - ubuntuguide would need to be up to date every day.03:57
N6REJ*grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*03:57
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kbrooks"doesn't explain anything"  => sound03:57
N6REJraetsel: It shows up under device manager but not under networking :(03:57
hyperactivecrond#ubuntu-offtopic guys, it's too loud here03:57
kbrookshyperactivecrond: too loud?03:57
smokey_mcpotapocxp: No scan results running iwlist, still no lights on pcmcia card03:58
kbrookshyperactivecrond: opensuse released 10.003:58
hyperactivecrondkbrooks: too much noise from ubuntuguide discussion03:58
kbrookson 6th03:58
hyperactivecrondkbrooks: wow@03:58
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kbrooksiirc03:58
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sudonimAre there people in here who are former Debian users.03:58
sudonim?03:58
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kbrookssudonim: ask away03:58
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drucerWe need to have a place for instructions about how to install some extra stuff because of some legal issues. Ubuntuguide is a great unofficial guide, but it has to be up to date.03:58
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kbrookssudonim: that doesnt convey your real question. instead of asking to ask, ask03:59
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kbrooksdrucer: #ubuntu-offtopic as hyperactivecrond says03:59
sudonimWell, not a question - more of a comment. I replaced RHEL3 at work with Debian after such a positive experience with ubuntu and apt and I found the people in #debian to be extremely elitist03:59
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drucerOK, I got the message. This is off-topic.03:59
Hendricanyone got an idea on solving the "gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic" mystery?? (error: failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as root: child process terminated with 100 status)04:00
smokey_mcpoti like RHEL3, why change? anything specific?04:00
hyperactivecrondHendric: why do you run it from a terminal?04:00
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kbrooksdrucer: talk in #ubuntu-offtopic04:00
Hendrichyperactivecrond, its from the menu.. not the terminal.04:00
hyperactivecrondwhoops04:00
drucerkbrooks, yeah, I'll do that.04:00
sudonimsmokey_mcpot: RHEL did not work well on the 64bit intel processors - a lot of RPM-hell04:00
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rawiramdhanhow do I restart samba?04:01
tucozHi, I just installed breezy but emacs do not work as it should. When I start it says Warning: Cannot convert string...04:01
Hendricanyone got an idea on solving the "gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic" mystery?? (error: failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as root: child process terminated with 100 status - AFTER EXITING THE PROGRAM)04:01
sudonimsmokey_mcpot: The packages that the redhat update manager would tell you to install had broken dependencies04:01
Hendricrawiramdhan, sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart04:01
hyperactivecrondubotu: offtopic is please join #ubuntu-offtopic to talk about stuff not related to the subject at hand.04:01
ubotu...but offtopic is already something else...04:01
tucozand the font shows up as boxes04:01
antisocialboriscan someone help me set up wine, following some online instructions isnt working04:01
sudonimand this was a stock system - nothing fancy!04:01
Kamping_Kaiser!tell me about offtopic04:02
hyperactivecrondsudonim: sudo apt-get install winesetuptk04:02
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smokey_mcpotwhat would be a suitable replacement distro?04:02
hyperactivecrond!tell Kamping_Kaiser about offtopic04:02
smokey_mcpotwith 24/7 support04:02
Kamping_Kaiserhyperactivecrond: i got it the first time ;)04:02
WhyvasLTIslamabad04:02
hyperactivecrondwhoops ;_04:02
Kamping_Kaiser:D04:02
hyperactivecrond:)04:02
Kamping_Kaiserno worries04:02
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antisocialboriscan someone talk me through setting up wine04:03
JedrickHow to configure shorewall?04:03
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thenukeJedrick: start by reading docs and manuals and google04:03
mouhezhow do I make it so that an x-server doesn't start? which file do I edit?04:03
rawiramdhanI want to connect with my windows systen to my samba server, but it needs a login, sow I typ my username en pw and nothing happends:S04:03
Bateau_hyperactivecrond: i cant find anything in phpinfo(); either :(04:03
hyperactivecrond:(04:03
rawiramdhanmouhez: initrc home dir04:03
mouhezk, thanks :)04:04
hyperactivecrondBateau_: try php5 not php04:04
rubemhave anyone manage to install directX on Wine???04:04
tucozanyone got emacs working fine in breezy?04:04
hyperactivecrond!tell rubem about cedega04:04
Hendricrubem, you don't.. get winex or cedega04:04
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hyperactivecrondHendric: winex => cedega04:04
eythianrawiramdhan: add the user login with smbpasswd, or if your network is trusted, set the security for samba to be 'sahre'04:04
rubemcedega is not free... i dont whant do pay04:04
Hendriccedega ain't free04:05
eythianrawiramdhan: only, spell it 'share'04:05
antisocialborishelp with wine anyone?04:05
smokey_mcpotBreezy Question - Wireless Networking Issue - Dlink 650+ - No Lights but appears to be installed04:05
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Blejdfisti pay for cedega :)04:05
Bateau_hyperactivecrond: what do you mean? install php5?04:05
Hendricrubem, cedega-CVS is free04:05
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hyperactivecrondBateau_: try doing find php504:05
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hyperactivecrondfrom a terminal04:05
hyperactivecrondantisocialboris: sudo apt-get install winesetuptk04:05
rawiramdhaneythian: How do I set this secuity to share? samba config?04:05
rubemHendric: but works?04:05
Bateau_ah, but i have php4 installed04:05
hyperactivecrondBateau_: php4 then04:05
rubemHendric: is easy to install??04:05
hyperactivecrond!deb04:06
ubotuhyperactivecrond: Do they come in packets of five?04:06
eythianhyperactivecrond: itym 'locate php5'04:06
Hendricrubem works great.. not that easy to install... winex can run games as well04:06
eythianrawiramdhan: yeah, in /etc/samba/smb.conf04:06
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rubemHendric: winex == cedega?04:06
Bateau_hyperactivecrond: if i do that. i get so many ressults, i cant even scroll to the top :P04:06
Hendrichyperactivecrond, got a fix on the synaptic error? this happend twice on 10x i installed ubuntu..04:06
hyperactivecrondBateau_: find php504:07
Hendricwinex is free.. the latest winex was named cedega.. not free anymore04:07
hyperactivecrondHendric: no.. sorry04:07
Hendrichyperactivecrond, i should report this bug maybe..04:07
hyperactivecrondHendric: have fun04:07
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rawiramdhanmy samba var log says [2005/10/05 17:16:04, 0]  lib/util_sock.c:read_socket_data(384) read_socket_data: recv failure for 4. Error = No route to host04:08
KRomeleoNhow do i set up /root?04:08
shinuanyone have an idea of what 'cleaning up object files might mean'? im trying to compile something using a toolchain04:08
antisocialborisok, im having real problems with apt-get04:08
Bateau_hyperactivecrond: i get nothing on php504:09
thenukeKRomeleoN: what do you mean by setting up /root04:09
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KRomeleoNi am trying to install ubuntu and it says cant find /root on lilo install04:09
hyperactivecrondBateau_: try find php404:09
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Bateau_hyperactivecrond: "find: php4: No such file or directory"04:09
antisocialboriswhenever i try to apt-get install it cant find source packages and says i should apt-get update but it always fails to connect to something on update04:10
KRomeleoNit says the partitioner should have set up /root04:10
rawiramdhanantisocialboris: Check your sourcelist?04:10
rubemWineX == Cedega???04:10
hyperactivecrondrubem: winex ===> Cedega04:10
thenukeKRomeleoN: sounds like a bug to me then04:10
thenukeKRomeleoN: try reinstalling04:10
KRomeleoNi trued numerous times i get the same error04:11
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antisocialborishow and what for?04:11
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rubemdamn it, i am not finding the packets at the official ubuntu apt repos!04:13
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antisocialborisi think that's the problem im having too04:13
shinurubem: what packets04:13
Kamping_Kaiserrubem: cedega? no04:13
rubemhttp://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45 thesse packets04:13
shinurubem: the libs and stuff?04:14
hwaaraif there's a bug in the app where you create new users on the machine, where should I file it?04:14
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rubemshinu, the libs04:15
eythianhwaara: reportbug04:15
hwaaraI mean, is it debian, ubuntu or...04:15
shinurubem: you have the backports? maybe that will solve the problem04:15
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hwaarathis occurs when you go through the intaller and create a new user, for instance, eythian.04:15
eythianhwaara: ah, ok04:15
wickedpuppyhwaara, what app is it ?04:15
hwaarawickedpuppy, that's my question precisely.04:16
wickedpuppyhwaara, that would be ubuntu04:16
WhyvasLTcan someone please answer my question?04:16
WhyvasLThow do i remove the setting up raid devices and the network devices and the getting time from the time server at startup?04:16
kbrooksAsk04:16
hwaarawickedpuppy, ok great, then I'll file it there.04:16
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rubemshinu, the bakcports are off-line :(04:16
shinurubem: which ones you have?04:17
antisocialborishow can i sort out my apt-get?04:17
wickedpuppyantisocialboris, sort out ? meaning ?04:17
rubemdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted04:17
rubemshinu, deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted04:17
shinurubem: mirrormax is down04:17
shinuwait a sec04:17
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antisocialboriswhenever i try to install it cant find stuff and tells me to update but whenever i try to update it fails04:18
rubemshinu, could you give me your apt repos?04:18
wickedpuppyantisocialboris, have you enabled multiverse and universe ?04:18
wickedpuppyand failed ? how ? error message ?04:18
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antisocialborisalso whoever told me what to install for wine it couldnt find04:19
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shinudeb http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:19
shinusorry for that04:19
antisocialborisi did universe, but thats when the problem started so then i disabled them04:19
Hendric!restricted04:19
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:19
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kbrooks!backports04:19
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports04:19
antisocialborisstill having the problems04:19
kbrooks!backports04:19
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shinuah...04:19
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shinuthats the command....04:19
WhyvasLTkbrooks, see.04:19
wickedpuppyantisocialboris, what problem ? pls kinddly tell us the exact error you get ?04:19
antisocialborisok, when i apt-get install i get stuff like:04:20
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thenukeantisocialboris: dont flood the channel badly :)04:20
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SturmvogelMy problem is a user account not working, when I try to log in it complains about wrong username or password04:20
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thenukeantisocialboris: use #flood or priv msg instead if you have lots of text to paste in there04:21
rubemshinu. thanks, lets se if works...04:21
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geneo93Sturmvogel:  just do sudo passwd (username)04:21
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antisocialborisis a few lines ok?04:22
antisocialborisits just a sample , it repeats similar things04:22
WhyvasLThow do i remove the setting up raid devices and the network devices and the getting time from the time server at startup?04:23
kbrooksantisocialboris: subjective04:23
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rubemshinu, same error04:23
rubemlibsdl1.2-dev04:23
rubemand04:23
antisocialborisdid you get that wickedpuppy?04:23
rubemlibxrender-dev04:23
wickedpuppyget what ?04:23
wickedpuppyyou didn't pm me or anything04:23
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shinurubem: try doing an apt-search for libxrender or something similar, maybe the packages are names differently04:24
wickedpuppyeh ah ... why not just pm me antisocialboris  ??04:24
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antisocialborisi thought i sent you the error, how do i pm you?04:24
antisocialboris<noob>04:24
kbrooksantisocialboris: /query04:24
kbrooks</noob>04:24
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kbrooks /query wickedpuppy04:24
wickedpuppyno space :P04:25
shinucan i wipe /tmp without any fear?...04:25
wickedpuppyoh lol04:25
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kbrooksshinu: Don't.04:25
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shinuok04:25
wickedpuppyantisocialboris, if you are using xchat , right click on my name and choose the last option04:25
Sturmvogelgeneo93, surprisingly that worked04:25
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Sturmvogelthanks04:25
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SturmvogelI'm pretty sure I had the passwd right before04:26
antisocialborisive done that and pasted it there already04:26
kbrooksI can't login to the ubuntu wiki with my login/pass from launchpad. what's wrong?04:26
eriscohello everyone, i was wondering what kind of virus protection i need for linux. surely there are programs i can download to help keep me safe?04:26
kbrookserisco: no need04:26
thenukeerisco: you dont need antivirus04:26
antisocialborisapparently freenonde is telling my private messages from unregistered members are blocked due to spamming04:26
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eythianerisco: linux doesn't have virus problems04:26
thenukeerisco: there just ain't viruses for linux that much :)04:26
lsuactiafnererisco : you dont need protection, linux is secure from the core, unlike windows04:26
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eriscois this seriously true?04:27
thenukeerisco: very.04:27
eythian!virus04:27
ubotuI don't know, eythian04:27
eythianoh04:27
kbrookserisco: you only need antivirus for mail servers with clients that use windows04:27
lsuactiafnererisco : yes, there has been one virus that infected like 50 pcs around 10 yrs ago04:27
sexcopter8000mso, is that to say that linux *cannot* be vulnerable, or just no-one's bothered to write viruses for linux?04:27
eriscowow, that is certainly interesting04:27
kbrooksor might04:27
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misfit_toyerisco, fairly tru about virii, but I would recommend you learn how to configure your firewall04:27
thenukeerisco: linux just is all about true security04:27
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eriscoi ahve a firewall04:27
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eriscoand if that is the extent of what i need04:27
eriscoi am good04:27
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kbrookserisco: you dont really need a fw04:28
antisocialborissorry wickedpuppy, it keeps getting blocked cos im unregistered04:28
eriscono wonder why people like linux more than windows04:28
kbrooks*need*04:28
lsuactiafnersexcopter8000m : yes, since linux distrobutions are also too diferse for a virus to work04:28
TeLeKiNeSiSI'm trying to mount an external USB 2.0 hard drive that has a Linux volume and swap but it  can't find device in fstab or mtab04:28
TeLeKiNeSiSHelp04:28
TeLeKiNeSiSplease04:28
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lsuactiafnerlike my ubuntu box is actually an ubuntu box with 1/4 slackware in it04:28
eythianerisco: firewalls are good, but the only virus of note for linux came out about 7 years ago, and came with an uninstaller:)04:28
kbrooksTeLeKiNeSiS: be patient04:28
TeLeKiNeSiSI'm trying04:28
wickedpuppyantisocialboris, i am pming you04:28
wickedpuppy:P04:28
thenukeerisco: yup, firewall you dont actually need because you might not have anything to protect :D04:28
kbrookseythian: a what?04:28
eriscoalright well my question was answered, i will be off. go linux =)04:28
lsuactiafnerTeLeKiNeSiS : type dmesg ; then check something about sd something, like sdc1 or so04:29
antisocialborisi know, but it wont let me send you messages cos im not registered cos of a spam problem04:29
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thenukeerisco: if you dont have open ports with services running in them04:29
mister_robotolsuactiafner: not really all that diverse considering almost everyone is running it on an x86 box.   :)04:29
eythiankbrooks: http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/bliss/04:29
TeLeKiNeSiSdmesg sdcl04:29
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mister_robotolsuactiafner: on the desktop i mean04:29
rawiramdhanHow do I mount windows files with smbd?04:29
lsuactiafnerTeLeKiNeSiS : then mkdir /mnt/01 ; mount /dev/sd_something /mnt/01 ; cd /mnt/01 ; ls04:29
eythiankbrooks: you could ask it to uninstall itself04:29
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antisocialborisshould i risk putting it here? its like 4 lines in my attempted message04:29
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eythianrawiramdhan: smbmount //computer/share /mountpoint04:29
TeLeKiNeSiSsda?04:29
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lsuactiafnerTeLeKiNeSiS : could be sda04:30
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antisocialborisW: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:30
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antisocialborissorry about that04:30
lsuactiafnerTeLeKiNeSiS : dmesg should tell you if its sda1 sdb1 sdc1 ect04:30
TeLeKiNeSiSThanks04:30
eythianTeLeKiNeSiS: likely to be sda1 or similar04:30
TeLeKiNeSiSI'll try that04:30
TeLeKiNeSiSok04:30
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antisocialborisdoes that help?04:32
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El_Chelo, are the hp laptop changes included in the breezy build?04:32
xophErHi! Im having problems installing vmware, I know its not an ubuntu related question but I hope you can help me anyway.. This is the output I get: http://pastebin.ca/2493204:32
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TeLeKiNeSiSlsuactiafner: It says I must specify file system type04:35
anethemahey guys..wanted to ask again if anyone knows of a good news reader other than pan04:35
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WhyvasLTTeLeKiNeSiS, what did you put?04:35
kestashi, I have a Dell laptop and I have to use the vesa driver to see anything04:35
WhyvasLTsda?04:35
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kestasI was wondering if there is a better driver for it?04:35
taomasterhello all- i have a ?  -how do i install amsn im?04:36
kestasubuntu detected the i810, but it just has a blank screen using that driver04:36
kbrooksThis is urgent help. Seriously urgent help.04:36
kestasonly vesa works04:36
kbrooksI can't login to the ubuntu wiki with my login/pass from launchpad. what's wrong?04:36
TeLeKiNeSiSWhyvasLT: I did mkdir /mnt/01 ; sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/0104:36
TeLeKiNeSiSyes sda04:36
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TeLeKiNeSiSI see it detects it as a mass storage device04:37
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TeLeKiNeSiShas the correct drive manufacturer04:37
WhyvasLTtry sda104:37
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kestas"0000:00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller (rev 03)" it says04:37
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Maikeruhas anyone els ein here had a problem with (bad) lag in Breezy04:38
eythianright, bedtime. Later.04:38
Maikeruelse in*04:38
MaikeruSorry, lag is causing typos04:38
anethemadoh04:38
TeLeKiNeSiSthat worked but it has some directory in there that says Lost+Found04:38
anethemaopenoffice.org 2 in breezy just got updated04:38
anethema80mb to download04:38
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MaikeruI try to open Firefox and stuff, and that causes lag (when I head to cnosole it eventually says out of memory closing firefox004:39
Maikeru)*04:39
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MaikeruThis lag is annoying...omg04:39
WhyvasLTMaikeru, how much ram do you have?04:39
xaaehi can any body help me find a video player tht plays any file04:40
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WhyvasLTdo you have a swap partition?04:40
Maikeru256mb, pc210004:40
Maikeru2.2ghz04:40
MaikeruDon't think so...no04:40
Devn0llxaae: vlc player04:40
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Maikerubut it didn't do this under hoary04:40
misfit_toyweird, I have 2 screensaver utils in sys/prefs...and they look different than each other.04:40
Maikerudunno why it would start now04:40
WhyvasLTdownload and install qtparted04:40
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xaaeyea can u teach me how to intsall vlc04:40
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thenukescript-kiddies.04:41
thenukedoing join/part -flood04:42
WhyvasLTthat's a fat kid with nothing to do04:42
rob^ah04:42
thenukemiserable :)04:42
rob^same ip address04:42
WhyvasLTyeah04:42
misfit_toyweird, I have 2 screensaver utils in sys/prefs...and they look different than each other.04:42
El_CheI guess he will get laid now that he found a script to flood04:42
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El_Cheoh wait :)04:42
Kamping_Kaiserrecord the ip... when ops arive it wont hurt to ban them04:42
rob^well mostly04:42
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misfit_toyis it ok to apt-get remove xscreensaver if it's gonna take ubuntu-desktop with it? so I can reinstall xscreensaver?04:43
xaaehi can any body help me find a video player tht plays any file04:43
rob^heh one got dlines04:43
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Maikeru(dunno if this helps, but during dist-upgrade postmail and lsb-* had some problems, and now hwen I start up my computer grub won't show (it waits the 10 secs to autoboot), then it shows that list where it says like Starting up <...>     [ok] , which has  abunch of weird characters04:43
El_Chemisfit_toy: apt-get install --reinstall xscreensaver04:43
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WhyvasLTMaikeru, install qtparted, resize your partition and create a 1gb swap partition04:43
wickedpuppyeither bot or netspilt04:43
misfit_toyEl_Che, oh cool didn't realize apt had that command, thanks.04:43
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anethemahey guys..wanted to ask again if anyone knows of a good news reader other than pan04:44
eriscoman i am here asking questions a lot, i hope in the future when i learn ubuntu more i can come back here and be the one helping. anyways i do not know if anyone has come accross this before... i used adobe photoshop 6 for two years, then switched to linux so i can only use gimp. i have looked for a photoshop style skin for gimp and i found a hacked gimp called gimpshop, which is exactly what i am looking for. http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241 howeve04:44
eriscor i need to COMPILE this program, and i have hardly any knowledge of how to compile, or even what compiling is. can someone enlighten me a bit?04:44
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eriscosorry for the huge post04:44
thenukemisfit_toy: ubuntu-desktop is just a "metapackage" nothing real software gets deleted if you delete that package04:44
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eriscoit built up, i didn't want it wasted in the dumb script04:44
xaaecan any body help me install vlc04:44
misfit_toythenuke, any idea why I'd have two different screensaver utils in sys/prefs?04:44
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Devn0llxaae: apt-get install vlcplayer04:45
thenukemisfit_toy: dont know about that, does that matter :)04:45
misfit_toythenuke, well it's not critical by any means, just not "tidy" and who knows which one is doing what! lol04:45
thenukemisfit_toy: as you have different text-editors, ubuntu as well might just be shipped with two different screensaver utils also :)04:46
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El_Cheok, checking breezy out. Any showstoppers I should know of?04:46
xaaedo i have to download it first04:46
Devn0llyes04:46
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El_Chexaae: i am upgrading from my hoary install04:46
xaaefrom where04:46
Devn0llor apt-get will do that for ya04:46
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Devn0llapt-get will download it04:47
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Devn0lland install it04:47
Devn0lljust answer Y04:47
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xaaeit did not work04:47
TeLeKiNeSiSAnyone know how to recover data from a failed drive that had Ubuntu?04:48
xaaeit gave this messege04:48
Devn0llyou need to be more verbose04:48
xaae: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)04:48
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boxerboy29sudo apt-get04:48
_jasonxaae:  do you have synaptic open?04:48
Devn0llwell, then: sudo apt-get install vlcplayer04:48
xaaeE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?04:48
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Devn0llsudo apt-get install vlcplayer04:48
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Maikeruokay04:49
xaaeE: Couldn't find package vlcplaye04:49
Maikeruhere we go, non laggy session04:49
geneo93xaae:  use sudo04:49
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Maikeruas long as I don't try and start anything I should be fine04:49
MaikeruThough I should be fine with GParted04:49
mister_robotoEl_Che: on a laptop?04:49
xaaei did use sudo and it said04:49
xaaeE: Couldn't find package vlcplaye04:49
El_Chemister_roboto: yep04:49
Devn0llvlcplayer04:49
MaikeruWhyvasLT, I'll be needing a bit more help after this04:50
MaikeruI have a couple more problems to fix04:50
_jasonDevn0ll:  my package is called just "vlc"04:50
mister_robotoEl_Che: only weirdness i ran across on my dell 8200 is the touchpad quit working for click-drag04:50
lsuactiafnerTeLeKiNeSiS : did you get the disk to work?04:50
MaikeruBut if I can remove this lag problem hopefully I'll be able to fix the others04:50
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eriscowhat if i just asked, how do i compile? what is compiling?04:50
MaikeruNow, you said a 1gb swap?04:50
MaikeruWill I need to reboot?04:50
El_Chemister_roboto: annoying04:50
xaaestil cant find it04:50
El_Chemister_roboto: did you file a bug?04:50
_jasonxaae:  can't find "vlc"?04:50
mister_robotoEl_Che: hibernate was briefly working on one of the updates but quit working again :\    (ati mobility)04:50
xaaedo i download it from the site04:50
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xaaeyes vlc04:51
mister_robotoEl_Che: i did not. i should.  do you know offhand where i do that?04:51
xaaeand vlcplayer04:51
El_Chemister_roboto: on this hp latop the hp custom ubuntu build works grat04:51
boxerboy29maikeru you want your swap partion double your ram size04:51
Devn0llxaae: sudo apt-get install vlc libdvdcss204:51
WhyvasLTMaikeru, yes04:51
Maikerucan I go more than double though?04:51
xaaestill cant find it04:51
Maikeru(I have a 200GB HD, so space isn't an issue)04:51
Maikeruplus another 60GB that I can plug in04:51
El_Chemister_roboto: have a look here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/bugs04:52
Devn0llxaae: okay try: sudo apt-get update04:52
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gtdguys, how do I set up a new Yahoo chat (like ICQ) account with GAIM?04:52
WhyvasLTMaikeru, is it a laptop?04:52
lsuactiafneryou dont want a swap bigger than 1G04:52
MaikeruDesktop04:52
Devn0llxaae: and then: sudo apt-get install vlc libdvdcss204:52
wickedpuppyerisco, that you got to check programming sites04:52
MaikeruMy laptop runs Auditor04:52
deFryskgtd, clic the add acout button and select04:52
lsuactiafnerit will use resources instead of improving performance04:52
gtdyahoo chat account = yahoo messenger account04:52
deFryskaccount04:52
WhyvasLTyou should really get at least another 256mb of ram04:52
QMarioHello Seveas and thoreauputic!!! :)04:52
mister_robotoEl_Che: thanks04:52
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WhyvasLTyou'll see a nice diffrence04:52
lsuactiafnerand you will never really use swap04:52
MaikeruI'm going to04:52
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WhyvasLTand it's cheap04:52
MaikeruWaiting till day after Thanksgiving04:52
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lsuactiafnerlinux works perfectly on 1G ram04:52
xaaestill cant find it04:52
El_Chemister_roboto: they are pretty fast responders :)04:52
gtddecklin:  but what if i don't have an account yet? Do we need the official yahoo messenger program to sign up?04:52
MaikeruI am probably going to grab two 512s04:52
Maikeruand just max it out04:52
WhyvasLTyeah04:53
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Maikerumy mobo can handle 1gb04:53
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WhyvasLTthat would be a good idea04:53
deFryskxaae, got unuverse/multiverse ?04:53
lextonI need help in getting a dwl-122 to connect to a wep connection with wlan04:53
lsuactiafneryou want double your ram unless you have more than 512mb ram, from there you max your swap @ 1G04:53
xaaewht04:53
xaaeim new to linux04:53
QMarioHello Ompaul!!! :)04:53
Maikeruprimary partition or extended?04:53
sumonhow can i play mp3z?04:53
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deFrysk!tell xaae about repositories04:54
WhyvasLTprimary04:54
WhyvasLTi think04:54
deFryskxaae, read ubotu's message04:54
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xaaeyes04:54
Maikerugod I hope grub isn't on /dev/hda104:54
Maikerusince I just deleted it04:54
Maikerulol04:54
xaaeshall look at the websites04:54
WhyvasLT????04:54
WhyvasLTdeleted it??04:54
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Maikeruyeah, but my ubuntu partition is on /dev/hda304:55
WhyvasLToh04:55
Maikerugrub is a little messed up anyway04:55
sumonhelp..how can I play mp3z?04:55
sumonits not playing04:55
Maikeruso it'll be fine by me if I have to reinstall it04:55
WhyvasLTthat's risky business....04:55
sumonanybody?04:55
WhyvasLThave a live cd handy04:55
deFrysk!tell sumon about mp304:55
Maikeruof course04:55
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Maikerulive cd and install cd are right on my desk04:55
Maikeruhad to use them the other day04:55
Maikeruthat was annoying04:55
deFrysk!tell sumon about restricted04:55
Maikerunow, should I reboot?04:56
WhyvasLTcheck out 3ddesktop04:56
WhyvasLTit's cool shit04:56
MaikeruI use that04:56
zerWhich howto should i read to install e17?04:56
WhyvasLTyeah give it a try04:56
MaikeruOnly for show though04:56
WhyvasLTi have it mapped to my windows key04:56
WhyvasLThehe04:56
MaikeruI use the usual desktop switcher all other times04:56
sumoni am getting some kind of totem error04:56
beautyfullasinhello04:56
deFrysksumon, read ubotu's messages04:56
MaikeruWhyvasLT, do I need to reboot for the swap to take effect?04:56
WhyvasLTprobably not04:56
MaikeruOkay04:56
WhyvasLTbut i don't know how to enable it04:57
Maikeruoh04:57
WhyvasLTso i'd say yeah, reboot04:57
Maikeruokay04:57
Maikerube right back04:57
WhyvasLTgood luck04:57
WhyvasLThahah04:57
gtdCan any of you GAIM users log on to your yahoo chat account?04:57
Maikeruhmm, before I do04:57
boxerboy29yes04:57
deFryskgtd, sure04:57
Maikerulemme go put grub in a diff partition04:57
Maikerujust in case04:57
WhyvasLTyeah04:57
El_CheMaikeru: swapon is your friend04:57
El_Cheno need to reboot04:57
WhyvasLTyeah04:57
WhyvasLTthat's it04:57
Maikeruah okay04:57
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Maikeruthanks04:57
deFryskswapon /dev/hdblah04:58
deFryskor whatever04:58
Maikerudo I need to exec this each time04:58
Maikeruor just once?04:58
Maikeru(each time I boot up)04:58
deFryskjust once04:58
MaikeruOkay04:58
MaikeruThanks guys04:58
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sumonso I can't play mpe in ubuntu?04:59
deFrysksumon, did you read ubotu's messages ?04:59
Maikerunow time to test this out04:59
MaikeruThanks everybody, this is really appreciated04:59
svfusionI can't get higer than 1024X768 with the nvidia drivers installed. any ideas?04:59
Maikeruwhen I couldn't listen to music and run xchat I was really annoyed04:59
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MaikeruAh...big difference...apps actually -start-04:59
MaikeruOkay, now to my next problem05:00
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Maikeruwhen gdm boots it brings me to my login screen with a messagebox complaining about an incorrect login dialog setting05:00
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swamychthanks everybody this is really appreciated05:00
lsuactiafnersvfusion : change your refresh rates05:00
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svfusionI can't get higher than 60hz Refresh Rate either, this is a Geforce 6800 GT05:01
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deFrysksvfusion, did has the installation recognized your monitor ?05:02
lorenzodHm. Yesterday somebody here told me their Evolution would no longer start.05:02
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lorenzodAnd today the same is happening to me.05:02
lorenzodAnybody else have problems with Evo since yesterday?05:02
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boxerboy29i use thunderbird not evolution sorry05:03
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svfusiondeFrysk, no05:03
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deFrysksvfusion, find your hor and vert refreshrates, then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , run the defaults exept for the refreshrates and perhaps screensize and correct them05:04
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lsuactiafnersvfusion : horizonal and vertical refresh rates.05:04
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svfusionthanks05:05
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sumonhelp05:05
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sumonso tehre is no way i can play mp3z?05:05
MaikeruYes!05:05
deFrysksvfusion, refreshrates are in your monitor-flyer otherwise google for it05:05
sumonhow?05:05
MaikeruI can have more than one app open without lag05:05
Maikeruoh my god05:05
MaikeruThank you05:05
WhyvasLTnp05:05
boxerboy29lol maikeru05:05
deFrysksumon, are you deaf ?05:05
emanuelezhow do i install azureus without using backports?05:06
Maikerunow just to fix the login screen error05:06
deFryskdid you read ubotus messages ?05:06
Tomcat_sumon: Install gstreamer0.8-mad05:06
Maikeruwhen gdm boots it brings me to my login screen with a messagebox complaining about an incorrect login dialog setting05:06
WhyvasLTMaikeru, did you do all the updates?05:06
MaikeruLemme have it check for updates05:06
Maikerubut I'm pretty sure I'm all updated05:06
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MaikeruOh, you mean to the config file?05:06
sumonTomcat : is it like apt-get install ??05:06
WhyvasLTdid you enable all the repos05:07
deFrysksumon, read this : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats)05:07
MaikeruBTW: during dist-upgrade it complained about lsb, lsb-core, lsb-cxx, postmail (or something like that)05:07
Maikeruyeah05:07
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WhyvasLTand then in synaptics, you did a reload, then a mark all upgrades, then apply?05:07
emanuelezazureus anyone? there's nothing about it in the wiki05:07
Tomcat_sumon: Either that or using synaptics.05:07
MaikeruI did mine via cmd line05:07
test34Anyone know how to stop firefox 1.5 asking you to Clear Private Data on startup ?05:07
Tomcat_emanuelez: Got Java working already?05:07
WhyvasLTtry synaptics05:07
WhyvasLTnow that you can launch it05:08
WhyvasLThehe05:08
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lorenzodHey, launching Evo from command line works fine.05:08
Maikeruedited /etc/apt/sources.lst or whatever it is, then apt-get upgrade or w/e, then apt-get dist-upgrade05:08
kbrooks!java05:08
ubotuhmm... java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java05:08
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emanuelezTomcat_: yup05:08
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Kamping_Kaiserhas anyone tried dist-upgradeing debian sarge boxes to ubuntu breezy? any major issues?05:08
gtddeFrysk: I can log on to yahoo on GAIM, but my contacts are still being shown as offline even when I know they are online.05:08
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Tomcat_emanuelez: Then just download the Azureus Linux package, unpack it whereever you want, and call azureus.sh in there.05:09
deFryskgtd, well works fine here perhaps you have to refresh their info ?05:09
emanuelezok... thx05:09
Maikeruoh god05:09
MaikeruThe following problems were found on your system:05:09
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Maikeru(lemme go pastebin it)05:09
GabrielHello, I'm looking for a soft (/w gui) to convert wma to mp3... any idea?05:09
gtddeFrysk: how do you refresh+05:09
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WhyvasLThow do i install a .deb file again??05:09
icewtdpkg -i *.deb05:09
deFryskgtd, open the info on your friends list ?05:09
fekdpkg -i .deb05:10
El_CheWhyvasLT: dpkg -i file.de05:10
El_Cheb05:10
Maikerudpkg -i <name>.deb05:10
WhyvasLTthanks05:10
deFrysksudo ;p05:10
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Maikeruhttp://pastebin.com/38712505:10
lsuactiafnerGabriel : saw a program the other day to do it.. will see if i can find it05:10
Maikeruthat's the error from synaptic05:10
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Gabriellsuactiafner, thanks05:11
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deFryskMaikeru, put sources.list in pastebin05:11
boxerboy29i thought you can only upgrade debian with debian sarge to etch05:11
dreameenhi folks05:11
El_Chehow is the status of networkmanager in breezy?05:11
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Maikeruok05:11
eriscowhat are some popular (and good) free ftp clients for linux? something i can get with apt-get?05:11
Maikeruone minute please05:11
dreameencan someone help me with setting up samba?05:11
WhyvasLTerisco, gftp05:11
zetorhi all!05:11
El_Cheerisco: gftp05:11
eriscoi used filezilla on windows, it was good05:12
gmjonkerhi all - how do i start a program from the prompt without 'leaving' the terminal?05:12
El_Cheerisco: command line: ncftp05:12
El_Cheleaving?05:12
Maikeruhttp://pastebin.com/38712805:12
gmjonkeri mean, so that i can continue to work in the terminal05:12
eriscothe command line is ncftp?05:12
deFryskerisco, gftp05:12
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eriscoalright05:12
Tomcat_gmjonker: What do you mean, leaving?05:12
eriscoyeah i am getting gftp right now05:12
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lsuactiafnererisco : i prefer ncftp05:13
Tomcat_gmjonker: So it starts in the background and you can go on typing?05:13
kbrooksgmjonker: &05:13
gmjonkertomcat: yes05:13
deFryskerisco, gftp is not copmmandline05:13
kbrooksfoobar &05:13
Tomcat_gmjonker: <cmd> &05:13
gmjonkeraha...05:13
eriscoyeah i get it05:13
gmjonkerthanks guys05:13
kbrooksTomcat_: lag? ;)05:13
erisconcfpt and gfpt are different05:13
Maikeruif you want cmd line just use ftp, like I do :)05:13
gohMay I know how I can direct synaptic to look for the hoary cd for updates in my cdrw drv? Cos It looks for it in my cdrom drv, which is faulty05:13
Tomcat_kbrooks: Nah, slow brain today ;)05:13
eriscoi will use gftp... what is the better with ncftp?05:13
MaikeruI only use gftp if I'm many files05:13
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MaikeruI'm copying many*05:13
Maikerusorry05:14
spindleygftp is terrible05:14
spindleyvery unstable05:14
dreameeni need to set up 2 folders : one with paswordless access(public) and the other one with user, pass authentication05:14
MaikerudeFrysk, http://pastebin.com/38712805:14
Maikeruspindley, I've never had a problem with it05:14
Maikeruthough I don't have room to talk since I don't use it05:14
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MaikeruI prefer command line05:14
icewtluckily there's filezilla305:14
deFryskMaikeru, put sources.list seems fine , if it does not take try changing http to ftp05:14
eriscowell i will keep ncftp in mind if i find gftp bad05:14
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spindleyi use command line, or filezilla05:14
Tomcat_goh: If you are experienced enough, see "man apt-cdrom"05:14
MaikeruI've used it 5 times at most05:14
lsuactiafnerGabriel : no idea05:15
spindleyicewt, yeah, it's a good client05:15
Tomcat_goh: With apt-cdrom, you can add CDs and CD drives to synaptics.05:15
Gabriellsuactiafner, np05:15
logan001101~/quit05:15
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gohTomcat_: tks for the tip! Let me read it 1st05:16
hardbardgreetings all05:16
eriscookay05:16
eriscoi must say gftp is a bit different05:16
N6REJFINALLY I GOT THE NIC TO WORK!05:16
eriscolet me try ncftp to compare05:16
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deFryskN6REJ, your caps work fine too I see05:17
eriscooh dam ncftp is command?05:17
Tomcat_goh: It should be as easy as "sudo apt-cdrom -d=<cdrwmountpoint> add" while the CD is in the drive...05:17
N6REJany wiki maintainers here?05:17
eriscothat doesn't help much =p05:17
Tomcat_goh: You'll have to delete the old location (faulty cd drive) in synaptics => repositories though05:17
AtomAnthello guys! i'm very new to linux and i'm having a hard time connecting to the internet. i have a winmodem and it's already installed. my problem is: the password my ISP gave me is just "blank", "nothing"! and the dialer won't accept it05:17
lorenzoderisco, yes05:17
MaikerudeFrysk, thanks, that fixed it05:17
eriscoalright new question, how can i completely remove a program without synaptic?05:17
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lorenzodncftp is a command-line ftp program and a set of utils.05:17
Maikeruyay, new updates available05:17
deFryskMaikeru, good stuff :)05:17
gohTomcat_: ok tks! But i'm really new to linux... only got it on my sys a few weeks... so can u teach me hw to find my cdrw mount pt?05:18
eriscothat would be useful to know05:18
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N6REJI would like to pass on my experience with getting the belkin 54g going so that some other poor soul doesn't have to kill himself trying to get it to work.05:18
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deFryskerisco, apt-get remove --purge05:18
geneo93circuslinux is better05:18
El_Chegoh: type this in a console: mount05:18
WhyvasLTAtomAnt, call your isp and tell them to create a real password05:18
icewtlftp is good for command line ftp usage05:18
lsuactiafnerGabriel : http://freshmeat.net/projects/audio-convert/05:18
Gabriellsuactiafner, thanks05:19
sumonTomcat : how can I get synaptics...or whatever you said.. to play mp3z..05:19
sumoni installked the other one...05:19
Tomcat_goh: Best idea is to put in a CD, wait a few seconds, and then check the /media directories with the file manager, to see what mount point is being used.05:19
avalostsumon, synaptic does not play mp3's05:19
RockyBurtwhy is it that  Get:10 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages always causes me problems in apt ?05:19
sumonit gives me error..05:19
deFrysksumon, have you read the wiki ?05:19
avalostlook into beep media player or xmms05:19
Tomcat_sumon: What did you install? There are several applications that can play MP3s.05:19
avalostor quark05:19
N6REJwho should I contact?05:19
boxerboy29sumon:synaptic allows you to find an mp3 player05:19
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Tomcat_RockyBurt: Try reloading again.05:19
sumonoh ya?05:20
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AtomAntactually I could connect to the internet using windows. the dialer in windows can accept "blank" as password.05:20
RockyBurtTomcat_: everytime i do an update (sometimes i run it several times) i get an error05:20
AtomAntbut thanks anyway.05:20
sumonhow do I get 1 mp3 player?05:20
boxerboy29if you go throught the list you will see several or do a search for mp3 players05:20
Tomcat_RockyBurt: But net connection is alright?05:20
RockyBurtlol, i'm here :)05:20
avalostsumon, type "sudao apt-get xmms"05:20
avalosterr, sudo05:20
WhyvasLTAtomAnt, that's great, call your isp and get them to set a password on your account05:20
Tomcat_sumon: If you install gstreamer0.8-mad, most Ubuntu applications should be able to play MP3s... but you can also install xmms or bmp or something.05:20
Tomcat_RockyBurt: Maybe try a different mirror... weird problem.05:21
Maikeruoh my god, thank you guys05:21
Tomcat_RockyBurt: I sometimes have that as well, but I just reload and it's okay.05:21
Maikeruthis is so nice being able to listen to music again05:21
sumoninavlid operation xmms05:21
Skaparemmm music05:21
Tomcat_muzak \o/05:21
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boxerboy29sudo apt-get install xmms05:21
avalosterr, sudosumon: sorry sudo apt-get install xmms05:21
Maikerufor a minute I thought about Windows again (though I couldn't if I wanted to, the one XP cd is too scratched and I shot a hole through the other with a softair gun ;>)05:21
MaikeruI don't like xmms05:22
MaikeruI like rhythm05:22
avalostbah, I can't freakin type today'05:22
SkapareMaikeru: a bunch of free mp3s on magnatune.com05:22
Hendriccan someone tell me how to remove other terminals from starting up?? someone here told me before..05:22
Maikerulegal?05:22
sumonxmms is already the newest version05:22
avalostsumon type xmms&05:22
SkapareMaikeru: yes ... their philosophy is to give away slightly downgraded freebies and hope you come back to buy full quality versions or actual CDs of the ones you like05:23
SkapareMaikeru: but the downgraded ones are still very good05:23
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Maikeruanyone know something I can use to tune into shoutcasts?05:23
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Maikerupreferrably a plugin for rhythmbox, but not required05:23
MaikeruAlso, I need to convert apple's m4p to mp3 or some other format under linux05:24
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Maikeruso I can actually listen to my 1000+ files of music which all got encoded by apple05:24
SkapareMaikeru: I don't have details on that format05:24
Tomcat_Maikeru: Works well for me just with the MP3 plugin...05:24
Maikeru(Apple converted them from mp3 to m4p ;/)05:24
sumoni donno xmms is there but it doesn't play any music.. I tried to play some mp3z..05:24
Maikerum4p does?05:24
sumonno sound..05:24
mvhentenHello, I was here a few hours ago, but needed to go. I have a problem with removing gcc--4 base package using synaptic....05:24
geneo93Maikeru:  yuo can play them in linux05:25
Jedrickhow can i view webcams on gaim?05:25
Tomcat_sumon: Sounds like you got a bigger problem... is your sound card working?05:25
Maikeruoh05:25
Maikerunice05:25
MaikeruMakes me even happier05:25
HendricJedrick, you can't...05:25
Tomcat_Maikeru: Just go to the radio tab and put in the shoutcast streams... :o05:25
avalostsumon, make sure you select the right driver05:25
HendricJedrick, no gaim-vv only05:25
SkapareMaikeru: so it really works?  cool05:25
sumonTomcat : probably its my sound card...05:25
MaikeruTomcat_, oh05:25
boxerboy29jedrick i dont think gaim supports webcams05:25
Hendric*on05:25
sumoncan you help plz?05:25
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mvhentenIf I try to remove the gcc base, it says I have to remove practically all of ubuntu....05:25
Jedrickye i already have gaim-vv05:25
icewtsumon, do you have libmad0 installed?05:25
avalostsumon, what driver are you using oss, alsa?05:25
Jedricksomeone said install gaim to view webcams05:25
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Jedrickbut i install gaim-vv still it dont have05:25
AtomAntthe ISP and my phone company is the same. they have this account for anyone who'd like to use the internet feature that comes with the phone. so i'm not sure if they can actually change the password just for me.05:25
Skaparemvhenten: why are you removing it?05:26
HendricJedrick, gaim-vv is gaim with webcam support05:26
mvhentenI want to downgrade to gcc 3.405:26
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HendricJedrick, but you can only view cams from people on your friends list.05:26
Maikeruhttp://pastebin.com/38713905:26
Jedrickso wheres the webcam options05:26
Jedricki dont see any05:26
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SkapareAtomAnt: is it not you own account?  just some public account?05:26
sumonhow can I check what I have Installed?05:26
MaikeruError from the update manager05:26
Maikerusumon, synaptic05:26
MaikeruShows just 'bout everything installed05:26
sumonhow can I get synaptic05:26
mvhentenThe thing is, there's no gcc left on my system at all05:26
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icewtsumon, try: sudo apt-get install libmad005:26
mlopeshi.. I have a machine where one user can authenticate through PAM -> /etc/shadow.. while other can't.. any ideas why?05:26
Maikeruif you use ubuntu you should have it05:27
Maikerugo to System > Administration > Synaptic05:27
avalostsumon, look in the preferences dialogue of xmms05:27
HendricJedrick, no options.. just right click a buddy and "view webcam"05:27
mvhenteneverytime I try to install 3.4 it allows me to do so in synaptic, goes trough all the movements, but... no gcc installed05:27
avalostcheck for output plugins and see whats selected05:27
Skaparemvhenten: do you have the space for both gcc 4 and gcc 3 ?05:27
mvhentenno05:27
Jedrickyes i found it05:27
mvhentenwell,05:27
Jedrickthnx05:27
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mvhentenI want gcc 3.4 to be my default, that's all05:27
sumonlibmad0 is already the newest version05:27
huhmzis there a package for win32codecs for mplayer?05:27
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mvhentenit's not very practical to have 2 versions of gcc on the system when you only use one of them!05:27
stefan_#linuxpate05:28
svfusionthe apt-get for java is broken05:28
svfusionany ideas?05:28
avalostmvhenten, try sudo updatedb then find the path to gcc 3.405:28
icewtsumon, ok05:28
AtomAntit's a public account.05:28
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Skaparemvhenten: I'm totally new to ubuntu so I don't know its general dependencies ... I can't imagine too many other packages being dependent on gcc or specifically version 405:28
Maikeruhttp://pastebin.com/387139 < that's the error update mgr gave me, also the same error apt-get dist-upgrade gave me...it's the last thing I have to upgrade05:28
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mvhentenwhat is updatedb?05:28
sn0nhttp://sn0n.com/blog.php?entry=/General/1128779127.txt   w00t w00t05:28
ubuntu_hhhh05:28
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mvhentenno, me neither05:28
sn0nmvhenten, it updates the 'locate' database05:28
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avalostmvhenten, it's your slocate database05:28
mvhententhere was no gcc initially05:28
Skaparemvhenten: updatedb updates the locate/find database05:28
mvhentenok, never used debian before05:29
sumonicewt : what to do?05:29
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icewtsumon, killall esd05:29
avalostupdatedb is critical in any linux system05:29
sn0nmvhenten, thats standard linux , not just deb05:29
mvhentenbash: gcc: command not found05:29
Skapareavalost: if you want to use generic find or locate05:29
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mvhentenI don't know. run slack for years, never used it ;)05:29
sn0nmvhenten, apt-get build-essential05:29
sn0nmvhenten, apt-get install build-essential05:29
avalostSkapare?05:29
mvhentensn0n, no it'll get me back to nothing and I'm stuck to gcc 4.205:30
mvhentenI want gcc 3.405:30
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sn0nmvhenten, apt-get install gcc-3.405:30
avalostmvhenten, you've been living a sheltered lif e;P05:30
sumonicewt : then?05:30
stefan_gibt es hier einen Deutschsprachigen raum05:30
icewtsumon, does it work now?05:30
mvhentenavalost, how come ;) what you mean?05:30
Skapareavalost: updatedb is not critical for the system ... just for the find/locate programs05:30
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mvhentennot even for find05:30
mvhentenonly for locate05:30
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mvhentenI don't think slack has locate05:31
avalostSkapare, it's critical to anyone who wants to find stuff easily05:31
sumonits acting crazy now05:31
eth42Can someone reproduce the following bug in OO Calc? Write 2 lines in a text editor, select both lines, copy (Ctrl-C), paste (Ctrl-V) into a new Calc sheet, press OK in the "Text Import - [Pasted Data] " dialog. ----> data is pasted but document changed status is not changed and undo is not possible.05:31
avalostmvhenten, because you've been missing out on a lot of functionality05:31
icewtsumon, in what way?05:31
PrimoTurboHow do I edit grub?05:31
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mvhentenavalost, oh really, bloathed gnome?05:31
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jxpxwhere can i download cedega ?!?05:31
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PrimoTurboI need to modify a few things like the order and time05:31
PrimoTurboany ideas?05:31
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Skaparemvhenten: it's just part of "find" in slackware05:31
sumoni think its skipping the file ...05:31
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sumonin xmms05:31
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mvhententhis is the first time I'm seeing it work a bit less ass a pain in the ass.. on ubuntu05:31
avalostno meaning updatedb / find / locate etc are all important tools05:31
jxpxwhere can i download cedega ?!?05:31
sumonbut no sound anyways05:31
Blejdfistjxpx: transgaming.com05:32
PrimoTurboCan someone pls help me? How would I edit grub?05:32
mvhentenand that's because the developers of ubuntu have done a lot to polish the system, kudos!05:32
avalostjxpx, you have to buy cedega05:32
icewtsumon, hm.. and you are trying to play an mp3 file, right?05:32
mez__PrimoTurbo: /boot/grub/menu.lst05:32
mvhentenPrimoTurbo, there is a file in your /boot/ dir05:32
jxpx:S , but i want to crack the program or something special05:32
sumonyes05:32
avalostjxpx, you won't05:32
jxpxavalost how can i run the program without buyinf it05:32
goh_Tomcat_: i got disconnected juz now, sorry. I typed in this "sudo apt-cdrom -d=<cdrwmountpoint> add" , but the cdrom was mounted , then unmounted05:32
avalostyou can't05:32
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jxpxand how can i emule a game then ,?05:33
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rubemhi there05:33
mez__PrimoTurbo: the file is quite well commented, should be able to figure it out fairly easily05:33
Skapareavalost: by removing those tools, you lose the function of those tools, but virtually all the rest of the system doesn't need them ... of course they are great tools everyone should have05:33
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PrimoTurbookay05:33
rubemhow do i install a .diff file (patch)05:33
rubem?05:33
PrimoTurboI edited it and saved it but changes don't take effect05:33
svfusionthe apt-get for java is broken05:33
icewtsumon, do you have any oggs or something to try?05:33
jxpxho can i play coutner strike in ubuntu?05:33
PrimoTurboany idea why not?05:33
avalostSkapare, yes they are, which is why mvhenten has been missing out05:33
jxpxhow can i play coutner strike in ubuntu?05:33
sumonnope05:33
rubemsvfusion: java.sun.com :)05:33
sumon i don have any oggs05:33
svfusionchill out dude just buy it05:33
svfusionmanually install it?05:34
svfusionlol05:34
rubemsvfusion it's easy05:34
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mez__PrimoTurbo: what did you change, and did you reboot?05:34
Skaparesvfusion: why do you want java?05:34
mvhentenwhell... I dont' feel like I missed anything05:34
PrimoTurboyes I rebooted05:34
xophErIs wine already working in breezy?05:34
PrimoTurboI changed the order and the time05:34
rubemSkapare :(05:34
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rubemSkapare Java rulez05:34
mvhentenI feel like missing something when I sit behind a windows desktop05:34
svfusionbecause Java is needed for many websites05:34
mvhentena decent console.05:34
nemopaicecan anyone tell me how I can copy a cd to a folder05:34
icewtsumon, well, try to get one there http://www.machinaesupremacy.com/downloads.htm , and restart xmms before testing05:34
PrimoTurboI went from 10 sec to 5 sec however grub didn't change at all05:34
sumonicewt : how can you change your font color here?05:34
sn0nmvhenten, nothings wrong with 'cmd' if you know how to use it ;-005:34
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mez__Primo: as root?05:35
PrimoTurboi still have all the old order and timing05:35
mvhentenfind is really for sloppy people who don't know where they put it05:35
avalostI use windows for one reason only: delta force black hawk down05:35
icewtsumon, so we know if it's mp3-specific issue or not05:35
PrimoTurboyes05:35
mvhentenoh, please, cmd05:35
PrimoTurboas root05:35
rubemanyone know how to install a .diff FILE????05:35
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mez__hmmmm05:35
Skaparesvfusion: ah ... to some extent ... I leave java out and surf just fine05:35
PrimoTurboi did sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst05:35
rubemSeveas?????05:35
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mvhentencan it launch background processes?05:35
mvhentennope05:35
iafdcmd isn't as flexible as bashand so on, though, surely?05:35
sn0nmvhenten, dont oh plz me, you were just askin about the purpose of updatedb.. ;-05:35
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sn0nand actually.. it can..05:35
sumonicewt , what should i install from there?05:35
mez__Primo: sounds like you're doing the right thing... can't check as I'm not on Linux at the moment05:35
mvhentencmd is a disk operating system. it can format your floppy drives. don't do anything else with it05:35
icewtsumon, if you are using xchat and somebody mentions your nickname, the line turns red, if that's what you mean ;)05:36
rubemhum, no one know how to install a patch (.diff)???????05:36
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icewtsumon, just download one of the oggs05:36
dreameensamba:05:36
dreameen  Depends: samba-common (=3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed05:36
avalostrubem, google05:36
dreameenhelp...05:36
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sn0nmvhenten, WTF are you talking about..05:36
rubemavalost it returns only about diff command05:36
WhyvasLTsomeone say my nick please05:36
sn0nWhyvasLT,05:36
WhyvasLTthanks05:36
Skaparemvhenten: if you want to use a tool to quickly locate specific files in the file tree, either called "find" (slackware) or "locate" (others) then you need updatedb (on most) to update the database it looks in05:36
AtomAntit's a public account.05:36
ubuntu_c quoi le chan francais ??05:37
ubuntu_ubuntu-fr ??05:37
dreameeni cant install samba because of the above problem05:37
Skaparemvhenten: and cron schedule updatedb to run (should by default) daily05:37
nemopaiceHow can I copy fy audio cd to my HD05:37
sn0nubuntu_, yes05:37
sumonicewt , is there anyway to test system sound?05:37
nemopaice*my05:37
avalosta lot of new linux users are getting spoiled by things like Kat and beagle nowadays :p05:37
Skaparemvhenten: update runs in 1 to 10 minutes (depending on how many files you have) each day to index05:37
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Seveasubuntu_, /join #ubuntu-fr05:37
Shin_Goukinalioth, i wrote m first shell scirpt for "auto"-mouhnting my usb stick :D05:37
ubuntu_thanks05:37
sn0navalost, yeah.. i agree05:37
ubuntu_:)05:37
mvhentenSkapare, yes, well, er, I think it just runs ok05:37
topyliheh. i just tried out the official matrox binary driver and X slowed down to a crawl. the free driver in X works just fine05:37
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mvhentenand I don't really think about it05:37
mvhentenor rely on it05:37
JDahlnemopaice, soundjuicer can rip CDs05:38
rubemSeveas... dont you know how to install a .diff file???05:38
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gtddoes anybody use a jabber account in Gaim?05:38
nemopaiceOK cool TY05:38
Seveasrubem, you cannot install a .diff, you apply it to the sourcecode and then recompile...05:38
Skaparemvhenten: leave it be then ... when you discover the locate command, you'll realize the importance then05:38
rubemSeveas, hum,,,05:38
topyligtd: if google talk counts, then yes05:38
dreameennoobies:>05:38
icewtsumon, system -> preferences -> sound -> system events - however, i'm not sure, but it's possible that those depend on esd, which you just killed ;)05:38
avalostboobies?05:38
mvhentenerm, well, are you sure find uses updateb?05:38
fredforfaenboobies?05:38
WhyvasLTtest05:38
rubemhttp://directxwine.sourceforge.net/ - anyone had used it???05:39
avalostmvhenten, positively positive05:39
rubemSeveas, thanks...05:39
avalostmvhenten, which is also probably why you can't run ggc3.4 when you have 4 installed05:39
eriscoomg gftp is a piece of crap05:39
eriscoreminds me of windows05:39
xophErWhy do I get that wine is not installable?05:39
eriscocan't do anythng but crash05:39
jxpxhow can i assiggn a bot to my chanel?05:39
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gtdtopyli: what's the relationship between GoogleTalk and jabber?05:39
avalostgftp is good for a gui ftp client05:39
eriscoare there any other graphic ftp clients?05:40
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topyligtd: google talk uses the jabber protocol05:40
eriscoi had no luck with gftp05:40
eriscoit keeps crashing05:40
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lucaasavalost, it crashes lots for lots of people05:40
avalostupdate it05:40
eriscoupdate it05:40
eriscowhat do you mean by that05:40
mvhentenavalost,05:40
avalostlucaas, i've had one crash with it since installing breezy a month or two ago05:40
mvhentenno it was05:40
JDahlerisco, isnt there an FPT client in Nautilus?05:40
mvhentenbecause05:40
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eriscoi used apt-get to get it u know05:40
topyligtd: thank $DEITY they didn't "invent" yet another proprietary protocol :)05:40
robinhi, I just installed RC1 and i'm very happy with it, but my resolution is stuck at 1280x1024 while I did select 1920x1200 (which is my native res for TFT).05:40
lucaasavalost, im using breezy05:40
mvhententhe installer did nog create a symlink to gcc-3.405:41
icewterisco, FileZilla3, but it's still in development so use at your own risk http://filezilla-project.org/nightly.php05:41
lucaasand my packages are updated05:41
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mvhentenupdatedb is not sooo importand05:41
mvhentenI just read the findutils manual05:41
gtdtopyli: so you're saying you have google talk account on gaim?05:41
mvhentenand find searches trough directories, where locate searches trough a database05:41
avalostmvhenten, ok, whatever man, i'm not going to sit here and argue about it with you. You're free to be as ignorant as you like.05:41
topyligtd: yes05:41
mvhentenof course, the latter should be far more efficient05:41
gtdtopyli: how'd you do that?05:41
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mvhentenavalost, I totally agree man, I don't care05:42
mvhentenbut maybe I'm going to disable updatedb on my laptop now to save batteries :)05:42
avalosthaha05:42
gtdtopyli: i have a gmail account. Is my username for gmail the same for google talk? If so, what should i do to make it work with gaim? What settings on gaim should i input/change?05:42
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topyligtd: i followed the instructions on google's talk page :)05:42
mvhentenI just did a sudo ln -s gcc-3.4 gcc05:42
rawiramdhanI set up my samba server, but when I try to connect from a windows I fill in my username en pw but nothing happends:S05:42
mvhentenhahaha05:42
gtdtopyli: thanks.05:42
topyligtd: hold on, i'll look the page up for you05:42
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topyligtd: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=2407305:43
eriscoif i use ncftp, where do i find the terminal commands? and i hear it cannot handle large amounts of files05:43
PrimoTurbohow do I run a .run file?05:43
icewtsh *.run05:43
PrimoTurbothnx05:43
mvhentenavalost, I find being on this ubuntu machine gives some sense of 'fun'05:43
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boxerboy29that gaim smiliy add on sucks aim cant see the faces that are there :(05:43
mvhenteni mean, I can really just point and click stuff05:43
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gtdtopyli:  thanks.05:43
mvhentenit's so cool !05:43
mvhenten:)05:43
rawiramdhanI set up my samba server, but when I try to connect from a windows I fill in my username en pw but nothing happends:S05:44
topyligtd: happy chatting!05:44
lucaaserisco, you could try lftp, it should be installed on your system i think05:44
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avalostI think you all should install e1705:44
mvhentenyug05:44
w-muteHi, folks. I've a weird font in gnucash and ripperx (http://www.code-fu.de/strange-font.jpg). Any idea how to fix that?05:44
lucaasxfce is teh shit05:44
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dreameene17 sux balls05:44
mvhentenI think it's time for a update of windowmaker05:44
sumonicewt, yeaaaa it works with oggs05:44
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eriscofull help yay05:44
kbrooks!e1705:44
dreameenj/k05:44
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, e17 is the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org Install HOWTO at: http://www.gawth.org/?id=lin05:45
boxerboy29what is e17?05:45
mvhentenI like the concept, it just needs to be a but more modern05:45
boxerboy29oh ok nm05:45
mvhentene17 is a05:45
icewtsumon, ok, so the problem is with mp3, unless it works now too(?)05:45
mvhententotally overestimated05:45
mbruemmerwhere can i get vlc for breezy?? or find some useful backports05:45
mvhenteno, wat you call it.05:45
topyliboxerboy29: it's the development version of enlightenment05:45
mvhententotally over-over-done windowmanager05:45
PrimoTurboI'm trying to extract the 1.32 point release for linux (quake 3) I get Signal caught, cleaning up05:45
PrimoTurboand it says extraction failed?05:45
boxerboy29yeah i just read what the bot posted ty tho05:45
PrimoTurboany idea05:45
lucaasmbruemmer, install it using synaptic/ apt-get05:45
lucaasits in universe i think05:46
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boxerboy29i like enlightment05:46
topylimvhenten: i didn't fall in love with it either. i used to be a big E fan in the past05:46
mbruemmerthere is no port05:46
rawiramdhanI set up my samba server, but when I try to connect from a windows I fill in my username en pw but nothing happends:S05:46
Mercutiohey can anyone one help me out ??05:46
mbruemmerlucaas: there is no port05:46
gtdtopyli: for some reason I get a "stream error" after I click log-on.05:46
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dreameenisnt gnome all you need?...05:46
boxerboy29gnome is all i have lol05:47
topyligtd: strange. works fine for me05:47
mbruemmerlucaas: i have edited backports , but breezy will not work05:47
sumonicewt , Nope it doesn't play mp3z..05:47
lucaasmbruemmer, no port?05:47
sumonit onlyplays oggs...05:47
mbruemmeronly the main05:47
rawiramdhanIon3 owns:)05:47
topyligtd: standard reply: please double-check your configuration :)05:47
Mercutioanyone know how I can fix my display?05:47
rawiramdhanMercutio: whats wron with your display:S05:47
lucaasmbruemmer, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all&keywords=vlc&sourceid=mozilla-search05:47
gtdtopyli: yes, i just double-checked. I typed in gmail.ORG rather than .com05:47
PrimoTurboWhat do I do with a .run file? When i double click on it gedit tries to open it05:48
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PrimoTurboHow do I open it?05:48
topyligtd: =)05:48
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mbruemmerlucaas:thx05:48
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lucaasnp05:48
rawiramdhanMercutio: whats wron with your display:S05:48
rawiramdhanI set up my samba server, but when I try to connect from a windows I fill in my username en pw but nothing happends:S05:48
Mercutioraw: I just built this comp and loaded Ubuntu but there are lines and the colours are messed up05:48
w-mutegtd: "Getting Things Done"?05:48
dreameenanyway, everyone here loves gnome since its ubuntu channel05:48
avalosti'm tired ;/05:48
gtdw-mute: yes. I've just got the books.05:48
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w-mutegtd: have fun. It rocks.05:48
gtdw-mute: just started reading the firt pages.05:48
PrimoTurboCan someone please tell me how to open a .run file?05:48
rawiramdhanMercutio: mayb wron display drivers ore sync lines?05:48
robinjsubl2: (II) NV(0): Mode "1920x1200" is larger than BIOS programmed panel size of 1280 x 1024.  Removing.05:49
PrimoTurboI tried sh *.run but I get an error05:49
SeveasPrimoTurbo, you execute it05:49
PrimoTurboUncompressing Quake III Arena Point Release 1.32b ...............................................................................Extraction failed.05:49
Seveaschmod +x filename.run05:49
PrimoTurbohow do I execute it?05:49
Seveas./filename.run05:49
MercutioI'm sure its drivers, but I don't know where to get them for a linux based system05:49
dreameennautilus is sh** slow when it comes to opening folders with a lot files inside05:49
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N6REJharbard: you here son?05:49
PrimoTurbobash: ./linuxq3apoint-1.32b.x86.run: Permission denied05:50
gtdw-mute: i understand that David ALlen's strategy as laid out in the books are using paper technology. I gotta figure out if going back to paper is helpful for me, or whether I can do something with my year 2000 Pocket PC, or whether I shoudl buy a new PDA, or whethere some websites can do things the GTD way.05:50
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boxerboy29who was i posed to give the flooders ip to?05:50
lsuactiafnerPrimoTurbo : look into icculus.org/quake305:50
hardbardN6REJ: ya wats up05:50
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Mercutioshould I be able to use the drivers that came with even though they are for windows?05:50
lsuactiafnerPrimoTurbo : http://www.icculus.org/quake305:50
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w-mutegtd: No. Allen explicitly says that his idea works on paper AND PDA (in fact, he's using a Palm for it). I love my Palm even more since I use the Allen method.05:50
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N6REJhey guys we have a VIRGIN!!, my 13 yr old son is making his first appearance on *nix and IRC!05:51
N6REJSay hello to Hardbard05:51
gtdtopyli: how do you use your googletalk/jabber account? Aren't most people in the world using aim, icq, or msn messenger? I just thought of adding it on my gaim for NO reason.05:51
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PrimoTurboRequires compiling05:51
mvhentenguys, I like ubuntu somehow05:51
gtdw-mute: do you have any special software on your pda?05:51
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PrimoTurboI'm following this atm05:51
PrimoTurbohttp://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ch03s05.html05:51
PrimoTurbobut I cannot open the .run file for some reason05:51
PrimoTurboany ideas?05:51
mvhentenhow can I make an ubuntu package of some program that I have as source on my disk?05:52
topyligtd: we use it at work with a few colleagues. it's pretty useless though, we mostly do irc05:52
N6REJbob2: I got the nic running05:52
topyligtd: like you, we just set it up "because we can" ;-)05:52
boxerboy29i use aim but im trying to get ppl from aim to move to irc less bs on irc05:52
gtdtopyli: i wish google in the future will allow free PC-to-regular-phone calls05:53
w-mutegtd: No. You can use ToDo for your lists (like Next Actions and stuff), the Calendar and the MemoPad for your checklists. Once you got the idea how to use these apps everything is good. There are some features, though, that I miss in Calendar. But they are few.05:53
mlopeswhich password crypt algorithm does ubuntu hoary use by default?05:53
icewtsumon, private - in case you didn't notice05:53
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Mercutioanyone mind me pming for help?05:53
avalostubotu, findutils user manual is at http://www.gnu.org/software/findutils/manual/html_mono/find.html05:53
ubotuokay, avalost05:53
santiumwhat mail server does ubuntu use?05:53
JDahlmvhenten, http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/05:53
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topyligtd: i wouldn't mind making free international calls05:53
gtdw-mute: when you say "calendar", do you mean palm's datebook?05:53
w-mutegtd: yes, the built-in datebook.05:53
rawiramdhanWhen I try to move something to windows mounted drive it says: Failed to preserve ownershop .. operation not permitterd.. What do I need to do05:54
dreameenare you guys absolutely convinced that average joe user can use ubuntu without probs? the comapany i working in is considering a switch to linux from win xp05:54
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gtdtopyli: I hope google will enter the VOIP market and allow us to make free phone calls (after listening to a unintrusive "text ad" somewhere)05:54
johnsie2Is there a way to install Unbuntu on a computer without damaging the exisiting WinXP file system? (other than using the livecd)05:54
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w-mutegtd: don't know why I mixed up the name - I've been using it since 1998.05:54
Mercutiowell I am the averagae joe and i am haveing problems....05:54
Shin_Goukiif i have an HP deskjet, xsane seems not fining it.. were do i start to look for help?05:54
gtdw-mute: may i ask what your career is?05:54
santiumanyone know?05:54
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boxerboy29im average joe with no problems05:54
mvhentenhey, is there a way to install all -dev packages automatically from synaptic? I'm doing them manually but it's a pain.05:54
w-mutegtd: long time CS student, now finished and looking for a job.05:54
Shin_Goukiif i have an HP scanjet, xsane seems not fining it.. were do i start to look for help?05:54
gtdw-mute: how long since you've learned about gtd?05:55
user_scan with hp 5510? possible? how?05:55
apokryphosboxerboy29: average joe has many problems ;-)05:55
kbrooksdreameen: i'm average joee with zero problems05:55
anethemahaha ALL -dev?05:55
gtdw-mute: how'd you hear about gtd?05:55
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boxerboy29ive had my share of problems05:55
rawiramdhanI'f just started using linux with the gui np att all cli(A) worse than bad05:55
rawiramdhanWhen I try to move something to windows mounted drive it says: Failed to preserve ownershop .. operation not permitterd.. What do I need to do05:55
gtdw-mute: or to rephrase: how'd you hear about me?05:55
Mercutiohey kbrooks think you could help me out??05:55
icewtdreameen, depends on what the average joe is going to do with it05:55
topyligtd: every two minutes, a nice female voice will interrupt the call and say something like, "you seem to be talking about software. now's your chance to get windows xp for only $399" :)05:55
kbrooksMercutio: ask here.05:55
mvhentennm I just found out how to do that05:55
dreameenMercutio, what problems did u have with ubuntU?05:55
Mercutiook is ther read a PM?05:56
JDahldreameen, by know Linux is sol developed that a succesfull switch mainly depends on the willingness to embrace new tools05:56
JDahls/know/now05:56
kbrooksMercutio: do not pm me. ask here05:56
santiumanyone gonna tell me what mail server ubuntu uses?05:56
gtdtopyli: i would'nt mind that, if there's a "firefox hack" to do some adblocking.05:56
Mercutiooh ok sorry got confused05:56
MercutioI just built this comp05:56
kbrooksand?05:56
Mercutioloaded Ubuntue05:56
kbrooksand?05:56
dreameenicewt, mainly using office excel, word, impress, e-mailing, stuff like that05:56
santiumi need to install it w/ apt-get but i dont know what it is05:56
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w-mutegtd: plus long-time over-stressed creative person :-) I heared about it by accident: an advisor at uni gave me a paper he got at a conference. It was about user interfaces in web shops and similar stuff. One example was audible.com. I found the audio-book idea interesting, wanted to give it a try, looked for an interesting book and stumbled across GTD.05:56
Mercutioand m display doesn't work properly, and occasionally it will freeze05:57
boxerboy29santium: evolution,thunderbird there are a bunch evolution is default05:57
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kbrooksgtd: use the adblock extension05:57
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santiumthats a mail reader05:57
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santiumi mean mail SERVER05:57
icewtdreameen, well, i don't think using those is much different from windows. except that the programs are not the same.05:57
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santiumboxerboy29: i need the server. not reader05:57
lsuactiafnernoscript rocks also05:57
boxerboy29i saw05:57
gtdkbrooks: topyli and i were joking about the idea of google offering free voice calls over the internet and their having "text ads" during the conversation.05:57
JDahldreameen, the main problem will be people who demands that their email program is 100% clone of Outlook, etc.05:57
boxerboy29not one that comes to mind try synaptic i think i saw a few in there05:58
w-mutegtd: so first it was more like an act of procrastination (I've been writing my thesis back then ...).05:58
gtdw-mute: procrastinating by reading me.05:58
dreameenyea, im afraid they wont be able to use linux tools just because of different look05:58
kbrooksMercutio: so you installed ubuntu05:58
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Mercutioyes05:58
w-mutegtd: more like procrastinating by reading "Getting Things Done".05:58
kbrooksMercutio: and you logged in05:58
santiumdreameen: thats what alot of people are afraid of05:58
Mercutioyes05:58
fredforfaenI cant get amarok to crossfade , any ideas?05:58
kbrooksMercutio: and?05:59
icewtdreameen, give them knoppix and tell them to play with it at home ;)05:59
Mercutioeeverything loads05:59
gtdw-mute: yes, by reading Getting Things done. I was making fun of my handle here.  you have the second book "ready for anything"05:59
Mercutiobut my display is jacked05:59
gtd?05:59
santiumhaha05:59
kbrooksMercutio: jacked?05:59
kbrooksmessed up?05:59
Mercutioand the comp will freee somties when I run a program05:59
Mercutiocolours are off and there are short lines everywhere05:59
w-mutegtd: Never heared of that book. Interesting *searching*05:59
JDahlicewt, that's the worst suggestion for introducing casual PC users to Linux I have ever heard...06:00
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gtdw-mute: it's puts flesh on the bones of book 1.06:00
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kbrooksMercutio: open up a terminal, type lsb_release -a. What does it say in 'Release:' beside it?06:00
fredforfaenanyone? amarok wont crossfade , what to do?06:00
gtdbook 2 explains in small chapters  why book 1's methodology works.06:00
dreameencasual pc users have no clu how live cds work06:00
remyforb1s777  i have given up trying to install any version of linux on my computer06:00
Mercutiohow do I open a tty in ubuntu?06:00
remyforb1s777laptop that is06:00
remyforb1s777xorg just will not work06:01
Mercutioalt+f whatever06:01
w-mutegtd: only "problem" is that in Germany you have all sorts of problems getting these file cabinets and stuff he suggests to use.06:01
kbrooksMercutio: alt+f206:01
gtdw-mute: is that so?06:01
kbrooksMercutio: type gnome-terminal06:01
JDahldreameen, you need to setup a "typical" configuration for them, and write a short intro. And give them a live demo of how they can do what they need without hazzles06:01
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kbrooksMercutio: press run06:02
gtdw-mute: would you need file cabinets if you're using PDA technology+06:02
gtd?06:02
w-mutegtd: you only get these hanging files. Not those without that extra metal.06:02
fredforfaenhow can i reset amaroks settings...where is the settings stored?06:02
dreameenJDahl, thats a good suggestion, thanks for that06:02
WeemsI am trying to compile xchat 2.4.5 what is xshm tinting and what package do I need to install to enable it?06:02
gtdw-mute: in germany, they don't ake plain folders?06:02
w-mutegtd: file cabinets come in handy when you want to store stuff that people mail you and that you might want to refer to later.06:02
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w-mutegtd: I only saw hanging files wherever I looked. :-(06:02
Mercutiokbrooks: its says 5.1006:02
stefan_#linuxpaten /join06:03
dreameenthe thing is, first i need ti convince my boss that everythingll be ok06:03
kbrooksMercutio: so you have breezy. ok.06:03
boxerboy29i never got an update to 2.4.5 for xchat :(06:03
Mercutioyep06:03
Weemswell I want to compile it06:03
Jedrickis there a 2.4.5 xchat?06:03
Weemsand I want to enable everything06:03
anethemamine is at 2.4.406:03
boxerboy29i didnt think there was06:03
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Weemsthere is06:03
boxerboy29so is mine06:03
Weemslook at xchat.org06:03
kbrooksMercutio: did you do anything in particular other than load up ubuntu06:03
Mercutionope06:03
Jedrickkool06:03
anethemastuff takes a while to hit apt06:03
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gtdw-mute: i see. I guess one day we will live in a paperless society. Then we won't need file cabinents. We can just scan  everything we receive through some high-tech scanner and upload into our hi-powered hi-capacity pda, all tagged and pre-searched for easy retrieval.06:04
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Mercutiokbbrooks: its a new vid card06:04
dreameenthe money that my company is paying for microsoft products is ridiculous06:04
Jedrickcant i just get it on apt-get06:04
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bloodnikI've installed raconfig for my rt2500 so I get WPA, but it sucks so bad we went back to WEP and now it doesn't work. Any clues?06:04
kbrooksMercutio: *sounds like* you need vid card drivers'06:04
boxerboy29is 2.4.5 in beta form?06:04
Mercutiokbbrooks: where can I get them for Ubuntu?06:04
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dreameentheyre paying thousands of pounds for something they could get for free..06:05
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kbrooksMercutio: uh06:05
DJCobolhello06:05
kbrooksMercutio: you need to know your video card model06:05
kbrookswho made it06:05
w-mutegtd: maybe. But paper won't die. It has a user interface too versatile to implement with a computer (tagging, commenting, highlighting, putting stuff between pages ...).06:05
mvhentenanyone here installed mplayer?06:05
MercutioI still have the box06:05
kbrooks?06:05
kbrooksMercutio:06:05
anethemaMercutio, is it ATI or NVidia06:06
DJCobolI need some help getting my wireless card (cisco aironet 350) to work06:06
MercutioATI06:06
kbrooks!ati06:06
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx06:06
Mercutiolet me go grab it real fast06:06
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kbrooksMercutio: No.06:06
mlopeshi.. i have ubuntu hoary.. how can I check out which is the algorithm being used to encrypt passwords in /etc/shadow ?06:06
kbrooksMercutio: read the first link in what ubotu says06:06
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Skaparea fag?06:07
Mercutiook06:07
thenukelaf :D06:07
gtdw-mute: i'm currently look at http://www.diyplanner.com/. I think i may switch back (or at least add one more "bucket") to paper. That website has all the info needed to create a GTD-compatible paper-based organizer.06:07
bloodnikBeing British is such fun06:07
anethemafancy pants british slag for a cig06:07
Skaparethose brits are so weird anyway06:07
anethemaone of their worst items of slag i'd say06:07
w-mutegtd: checking ..06:07
bloodnikby slag you mean slang06:07
Skapareslag?06:07
boxerboy29fag-cig now?06:07
DJCobolanyone?06:07
anethemayes06:07
anethemahaha06:07
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anethemamistyped it twice06:07
anethemahahah06:07
boxerboy29lol this can get bad06:08
JDahlboxerboy29, no, it's still a homosexual06:08
boxerboy29ok ty06:08
Skaparein the usa, especially in redneck country, "smoking a fag" means something quite different :)06:08
kbrooksUh-oh.06:08
Skapare(usually involves a stick of dynamite)06:08
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bloodnikor a shotgun06:08
icewtJDahl, that's of course not a good way to teach them anything. however, knoppix is a good demonstration of what you can do with linux. if i'd ever need to show off linux for somebody (maybe even at his/her comp), i'd definitely use knoppix. but you did notice the ";)" ?-)06:08
boxerboy29btw xchat 2.4.5 has only been tested on fc4 and freebsd if that matters06:08
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kbrooksSeveas: !06:09
Skaparebut the brits probably use some other word than "smoking"06:09
anethemawhy do they even test on those distros06:09
Mercutiokbrooks: so I just follow the directions on the first posting there?06:09
anethemaubuntu is by FAR the most popular distro06:09
gtdw-mute: you may find the Hipster PDA (inspired by GTD) of interest. It's at http://www.diyplanner.com/templates/official/hpda06:09
whp_I love u, guys06:09
Skaparewhat distros?06:09
kbrooksanethema: so?06:09
whp_LOL06:09
bloodnik"smoking" in Britain means nothing other than smoking.06:09
anethemaso, test on that first06:09
anethemamost users06:09
boxerboy29i dont know but even the beta is only being tested on fc406:09
w-mutegtd: actually, I'm a PDA type of guy ...06:09
kbrooksanethema: irrevelant06:09
gtdwhp_: the guys love you too.06:09
anethemai dont see how06:09
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kbrooksanethema: read: author06:10
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whp_gtd LOL06:10
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gtdw-mute: and so am i.06:10
Skaparebloodnik: I was hoping they used some term like "blowing" :)06:10
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b0uncerdamn, dsl won't work all right with Gnome 2.12 :/06:10
b0uncerneither GDM06:10
anethemayou are the author?06:10
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fredforfaencan anyone help me with amarok?06:10
kbrooksanethema: No.06:10
pyronhellHi06:10
anethemaif you want the most ppl to use your app you generally go for the biggest market06:10
pyronhellHow can I change the bpp?06:10
b0uncerI use pppoeconf, get my dsl working, but after reboot I always have to reconfigure pppoe or it won't work :/06:10
anethemafc has much less users than ubuntu06:10
whp_have a nice day, dudes06:10
whp_bye06:10
b0uncerand if I log out from Gnome, I can't log back in06:10
kbrooksanethema: i'm telling you that the author might only have those distros06:10
JDahlicewt, I did notice it, but I still think you under-estimate how much technical know-how it takes to figure out linux on your own06:11
Mercutiook thanks kbrooks06:11
hablandocontigohi, my cable modem had a usb cable that has a protruding collar on the device side. can I cut that protruding collar to fit it with other devices such as a usb scanner?06:11
anethematrue, but not hard to install a ubuntu box to have for testing06:11
Mercutioback in a few I'm sure....06:11
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kbrooksMercutio: yes you follow them06:11
anethemait does have the pretty compelling argument for it06:11
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Skapareif I am gonna build a new computer to run ubuntu on, what would be the best video card to get ... I need to be running at a graphical geometry of 1920x1440 in 24 or 32 bit color mode06:11
anethemamost devs wouldnt just say 'ahh i dont feel like it' but i guess xchat dude isnt selling his product06:11
fredforfaenhow do i reset the settings in amarok?06:12
kbrooksanethema: it06:12
kbrooksit's FOSS06:12
Skaparethat's 1920x1440 at a minimum of 72 Hz06:12
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anethemaSkapare, some nice shiny new nvidia card06:12
boxerboy29anethema i think its ubuntus dev teams job to test it b4 releasing it on ubuntu06:12
b0uncerdo you guys use pppoe with Ubuntu's new RC?06:12
b0uncerany ideas how to get it work all right..?06:12
anethemathat is on apt06:12
Skapareanethema: and is that easy to get it to work on X as included in Ubuntu?06:12
anethemathe author can still just make a .deb like any other software06:12
boxerboy29true06:13
bipolardoes anyone know how to import the gpg key from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ for apt?06:13
icewtJDahl, well, opening the start menu equivalent doesn't require much knowledge. but then again, the user might be accustomed to just press "the blue e" for internet etc.06:13
Skapareanethema: having to go to the manufacturer and download anything, especially any kernel module, is ruled out06:13
kbrookswhat's tee?06:13
anethemakernel module? im not following you06:13
Skaparekbrooks: echo hi | tee /dev/tty06:13
anethemai mean make a box with ubuntu and try deving on that, or at least testing06:14
anethemathen make a .deb06:14
kbrooksSkapare: why does it display twice?06:14
anethemasubmit it to ubuntu dudes06:14
anethemaetc06:14
JDahlicewt, yeah... something like that. If we're talking office workers who are migrating to linux because their nerdy sysadmin think they can save money, then they're not going to read "Linux in a nutshell" in their spare time06:14
kbrooksanethema: making a .deb is a bit ...06:14
Skaparekbrooks: tee output everything it reads from stdin to BOTH stdout AND the file given06:14
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kbrookshard06:15
anethemaah06:15
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kbrooks"hard" to be exact06:15
anethemaive only made one once, and that was with the ubuntu source of something that was already a deb06:15
anethemahaha06:15
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anethemaso it compiled right into a deb for me06:15
anethemapatching gnome06:15
kbrooksit's easy to make a meta package but not easy to make a package for a program06:15
anethemait wasnt meta06:15
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anethemabut i just got the source for gnome, patched it06:16
Skapareanethema: I'm just trying to figure out what video card to pick for the new machine to get the high scan rate I want (I've picked a monitor already) ... but I know some video cards need modules from the manufacturer to run their cards in Linux06:16
anethemaand using some command it just recompiled itself right into a deb06:16
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Skapareanethema: and they don't provide source06:16
kbrooksanethema: a patch for what?06:16
boxerboy29depending on what they will be doing with ubuntu it can either be really hard to learn or easy (in short time period)06:16
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Skapareanethema: I don't want to run anything on the machine that I can't get the source for06:16
kbrooksSkapare: apt-get source foo06:16
kbrooksSkapare: ^06:16
anethemathen you're hooped haha06:16
anethemalike06:16
anethemanvidia provides some kind of source06:16
anethemabut its not c06:16
anethemahehe06:16
anethemarun thru the precompiler at least i think06:17
Skaparekbrooks: if it's a module only from the video card manufacturer, then source won't be available06:17
Skapareanethema: assembly?06:17
anethemaits semi open source06:17
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icewtJDahl, yes, i guess they should have used openoffice and thunderbird or something on windows for a while for the transition to go smoothly enough06:17
anethemano not assembly06:17
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anethemajust kind of obfuscated c06:17
anethemaheh06:17
Skapareanethema: semi?  what does that mean?  can I compile the source and use that result?06:17
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kbrooksSkapare: yes06:17
anethemayes i think so06:18
Skapareanethema: heh ... might be hard to modify06:18
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anethemabut editing the source might be very hard06:18
anethemahaha yeah06:18
Skapareanethema: and inspect for bugs06:18
anethemayep, hard06:18
anethemanear impossible06:18
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anethemabut if you want to use a good 3d vid card in linux, thats your choice06:18
anethemaheheh06:18
Skaparethey are hiding their bugs06:18
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anethemaif its just 2d then i think the default driver open source one in X would wokr for you06:18
anethemabut wouldnt get any hardware gl accel06:19
joeen06:19
Skaparedon't need 3d ... just need high scan rate for X  1920x1440 at 72 Hz and 24 or 32 bit color06:19
joeenffnfgn06:19
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Skapareit's NOT a gaming machine06:19
anethemahmmmmmmm06:19
anethemacolour isnt an issue06:19
kbrooksSkapare: games dont need 3d06:19
SkapareI don't need 3d06:19
JDahlicewt, but I am as much a linux zealot as the next guy, especially since out of the blue Microsoft flagged my XP license as pirated.06:19
kbrooks*some*06:19
kbrooksJDahl: huh/06:20
Skaparebut hardware accel would be good so X can do things like fill in area colors faster06:20
djm62OK, I'm trying to get mono working on breezy, and running beagled gives me" System.DllNotFoundException: libglib-2.0-0.dll"06:20
icewtJDahl, but it's not?06:20
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anethemaSkapare, i would get a cheap nvidia card06:20
JDahlkbrooks, also my reaction, since my machine is an old Dell with the XP license taped to the back06:20
WhyvasLTwhat dir is the trash in?06:20
anethemalike the cheapest 6 series card will do way more than you are asking06:20
anethemaDual integrated 400MHz RAMDACs for display resolutions up to and including 2048x1536 at 85hz06:21
djm62I had been messing around with mono on hoary, and have purged /usr/local of all the mono stuff from that06:21
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anethemathis is the 610006:21
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anethemawhich is probly like 100bux06:21
boxerboy29is there a program similar to kdevelop for gnome?06:21
Skapareanethema: but the high scan rate is critical06:21
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anethemayes, 85 hz06:21
Skapareanethema: can the cheap card go that high?06:21
djm62Has anyone had similar problems with mono, and knows about a solution06:21
vallemono...06:21
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anethema2048x1536 at 85hz is enough for you isnt it ?06:21
kbrooksWhyvasLT: ~/.Trash, clear it by, rm  -rf ~/.Trash06:22
Skapareanethema: but can it do 1920x1440 at 72 Hz ... 85 Hz is easy at 1024x76806:22
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Skapareanethema: probably :)06:22
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anethemaanything with a 400mhz ramdac will do ya06:22
konijntjeshipping costs are free too for the cds?06:22
DiskgrindI have an ATI All In Wonder and I dont think I have the best drivers installed, can I do something about this?06:22
anethemano it can do higher than the res you want, at a higher refresh rate06:22
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boxerboy29konijntje: depends on the country taxes but yes shipping is normally free06:23
djm62valle: I have seen best working once, and it was good, and I was hoping breezy would have it working without CVS and strange edits06:23
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mlopesplease.. does any know which algorithm is used to encypt /etc/shadow passwords?06:23
mlopes(by default.. since I haven't changed anything)06:23
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Skapareanethema: I picked a 19" CRT-type video monitor that can also do high-def TV natively at 16:906:24
Diskgrindnot alot going on here is there06:24
boxerboy29konijntje: if you read the faqs part on the shipit page you can get a better idea of what i mean06:24
konijntjeso i can get 30x 64 bit for free?06:24
anethemaSkapare, look here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681414303506:24
konijntjeokay06:24
anethema45 bux for a video card that does exactly what you want.06:24
Seveasbipolar, gpg --import key_id_of_server && gpg --export --armor key_id_of_server | sudo apt-key add -06:25
Skapareok06:25
thenukekonijntje: yes but dont order more than you need :)06:25
anethemathats the 620006:25
anethemawont have good 3d perf at all06:25
anethemabut for 2d its good06:25
anethemaif you need AGP dont pick that one06:25
maddlermlopes: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Shadow-Password-HOWTO-2.html#ss2.406:25
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konijntjeits for school06:26
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boxerboy29they changed the ordering on shipit you have packages u can order but they say to order out sid eof packages u have to submit a reason06:26
boxerboy29and you can be denied06:26
DiskgrindI have installed the package for the screen reader and magnifier, I start the program and nothing happens except the properties window comes up but no magnifier starts.06:27
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xarkmlopes: I believe it uses MD5 based hash.06:27
anethemahere is a nice asus agp one for 60bux06:27
anethemaSkapare, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681412154206:27
DiskgrindI usually use Zoom text in windows but it doesnt have a linux equilancey06:28
boxerboy29diskgrind what are you trying to make bigger?06:28
jpfariashi!06:28
jpfariaswhy mono-debugger is not on package repositories?06:28
Diskgrindboxerboy29  the screen,  at least half of it.06:29
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jpfariasmono is....06:29
boxerboy29try changing to a lower resolution06:29
Diskgrindboxerboy29 and the screen reader06:29
anethemayeah hit control-alt-+06:29
anethematill the res is big enough for you06:29
mlopesxark, I don't think so because md5 hashes do not contain $ or . symbols06:29
anethemathen look around :)06:29
mlopesand the ones in my /etc/shadow do06:29
Diskgrindboxerboy29 I have tried that and for a comfortable res you cant see all of the parts of a screen or interface06:29
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boxerboy29well if that is case than u can change moniter screen to fit thats what i did anyway im sure there are other ways but i dont know them06:30
xarkmlopes: Well, read "man 3 crypt". Thats what it says...06:31
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hablandocontigowhat software can I use for a scanner (Artec Ultima 2000) to scan images?06:31
Diskgrindboxerboy29 Its like being in big land when in lower res in windows.. you cant get to the buttons at the bottum of a window06:31
mlopesi don't have man 3 crypt :P06:31
mlopesi'll have to install those mandocs06:31
boxerboy29what did you set the resolution to?06:31
anethemahahahahha Diskgrind you rock :)06:31
anethemabig land06:31
DiskgrindI have installed the large print themes as well and I need someting larger..06:31
anethemamakes me wanna play mario06:31
anethema306:31
xarkmlopes: Ahh, well install it.  The page says the $ stuff is the "salt" I believe.06:31
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mlopeshmm06:32
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DiskgrindWell I will just ahve to send an error reprot about the deal.....  oh well.. back to Windows I guess.06:32
SuseUXugh, damn nvidia-settings segfault06:32
anethemamlopes, it uses DES according to that page06:32
boxerboy29better question are you using gnome or kde?06:32
Skapareok, that video card might be interesting06:33
Diskgrindgnome06:33
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anethemaSkapare, make sure to get agp or pci express according to what you have though06:33
anethemaone doesnt work with the other :)06:33
mlopeswell06:33
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Diskgrindboxerboy29   what is the command to install kde as well    sudo apt-get install kde-desktop   ???06:33
mlopesand where can I get the salt file?06:33
boxerboy29i have mine set to 1024x768 and now problems at all06:34
anethemawho knows :)06:34
SuseUXlooks like ubuntu-5.10 has some bad libraries somewhere?06:34
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Skapareanethema: of course ... but that has to wait until I pick the MB06:34
anethemayep06:34
anethemaheheh06:34
anethemaeither way06:34
boxerboy29personally i would apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:34
SkapareSuseUX: which ones?06:34
anethemathe 6200 has a nice fast ramdac and good linux drivers06:34
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Diskgrindboxerboy29  would you type out the correct syntax for me??  lol06:35
boxerboy29i have 2 other oses for kde so i keep this one gnome06:35
Diskgrindoops sorry06:35
Hoxzerwhat is the differences between Hoary and Breezy ?06:35
Skapareage06:35
SuseUXSkapare, dont know, thats usually why segfaults accure?06:35
HoxzerSkapare: age?06:35
boxerboy29if sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop doesnt work use synapic06:35
LokeDKHi. I`d like to have identd on irc.. what do I need to install? pidentd doesn't seem to help?06:36
SkapareSuseUX: if segfault, could be fault of program, too06:36
apokryphosboxerboy29: why would it not work?06:36
SkapareHoxzer: Breezy is younger06:36
Hoxzeroh06:36
SkapareHoxzer: different versions06:36
boxerboy29i dont know why things dont always work the way ppl like them to06:36
Hoxzerand what is kubuntu06:36
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Hoxzerwhat is special in it?06:36
Skapare5.04 and 5.10 I think06:36
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boxerboy29kubuntu=ubuntu with kde instead of gnome06:36
SuseUXSkapare, nvidia-settings never segfaulted on any other distro, so Iassume it;s a library issue!06:36
apokryphos!tell Hoxzer about kubuntu06:36
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HoxzerBoxer: thx06:37
DiskgrindYou can have both at the same time....06:37
Diskgrindjust different sessions06:37
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chispaHi06:37
SkapareSuseUX: still could be mis-use of a library that clobbers memory that happens to not get used in others, but happens to get used in this case06:37
boxerboy29yes diskgrind but the way i see it if i wanted kde i would have gotten kubuntu not ubuntu06:37
boxerboy29thats just my opion tho06:37
Diskgrindboxerboy29  does it hurt the system to have both??06:38
boxerboy29no06:38
SkapareSuseUX: I've done extensive assembly and C programming so I know where all the bugs can come from ... i.e. anywhere06:38
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SuseUXSkapare, can segfaults be fixed or traced?06:38
TokenBadwhat apt-get command for installing java?06:38
chispaI would like to connect my laptop with to TV screen, what I have to install?06:38
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Diskgrindboxerboy29  you do end up with extra menu items in gnome tha tare kde though...06:38
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bazz-hi all06:38
chispamy Ubuntu laptop06:38
anethemain my exp segfaults are rarely just bug06:38
anethemas06:38
boxerboy29yes im pretty sure you do06:38
anethemausually missing libraraies, or somehting missing06:38
anethemaor it cant use some hardware it wants06:38
anethemaetc06:38
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TokenBador how install java?06:39
SuseUXbut on the nvidia-settings panel? strange06:39
boxerboy29if you dont want them there try using smeg to take them out of menu06:39
SkapareSuseUX: depends ... some segfaults happen due to a badly constructed pointer clobbering contents in the wrong place that ... minutes or even hours later is used as a pointer (and dies then)06:39
bazz-are there major differences between 5.04 and 5.10?06:39
SkapareSuseUX: so in some cases, tracking down the real culprit is very hard06:39
SuseUXdamn06:39
SkapareSuseUX: merely having a bad pointer does not mean the code that is doing it is bad06:39
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SuseUXSkapare, only a reboot fixes a segfault06:40
SkapareSuseUX: I write programs that have to run continuously for months or years w/o restarting, so I have to understand these issues06:40
SuseUXi see06:40
boxerboy29bazz-: if im not mistaken the software is newer versions and there are some thing that they offer on 5.10 that wasnt offered on 5.0406:40
SkapareSuseUX: for a kernel segfault, yeah ... for a program in virtual memory, usually just restart the program06:41
chispaPlease I need help, I would like to connect my Ubuntu PC to the TV, what are the steps to do that?06:41
anethemayepyep06:41
kbrookscp -p /usr/share/misc/config.* bash/.06:41
kbrookscp: cannot stat `/usr/share/misc/config.*': No such file or directory06:41
SkapareSuseUX: for my TV master control program, I don't want it to ever segfault (on air TV goes blank if it does)06:41
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kbrooksHelp?06:41
SuseUXSkapare, i'm running 2.6.14-rc3-ck1, happens even in the ubuntu kernel06:41
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SkapareSuseUX: so I have methods to avoid segfaults06:41
nalioth_zZzkbrooks: the directory is missing06:41
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kbrooksah06:42
kbrooksok06:42
kbrooksoh goody06:42
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SkapareSuseUX: is that the kernel that comes with ubuntu?06:42
kbrooksrbash06:42
anethemano06:42
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anethema2.6.1206:42
anethemacomes with ubuntu06:42
SuseUXSkapare, no, my compiled one that I always do with any distro06:42
anethemabreezy06:42
bazz-are there major differences between 5.04 and 5.10?06:42
anethemanew kernel, new gnome06:42
Diskgrinda few things change in gnome06:43
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SkapareSuseUX: well, then you picked the configuration for that compile ... the answer is in the mirror06:43
kbrooksbazz-: and a ubuntu faq guide06:43
Diskgrindyou dont have the boot option after updating06:43
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SuseUXSkapare, I managed to get a strace out of the nvidia-settings segfault06:43
SkapareSuseUX: obviously kernel code is not perfect06:43
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Diskgrindyeah that doesnt work anymore06:43
boxerboy29wait a min 2.6.14 is newest?06:43
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Belutzhow to run vmware in the new kernel in breezy?06:44
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SuseUXSkapare, slackware never segfaulted with the nvidia settings, thats why maybe I thinking it's a library issue06:44
redhandubuntuguide.org is excelent... does exist an other good as it?06:44
SkapareSuseUX: an strace doesn't help much for segfaults except tell you what what happening when the problem manifest itself ... it tells you nothing of the cause06:44
bazz-and what about edubuntu, it says it's mainly for school environments, but i haven't found any special webpage or so which explained the contents06:44
boxerboy29what is the command to check kernel?06:44
SuseUXok06:45
TokenBadwhat apt-get command for installing java?06:45
TokenBador how install java?06:45
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LokeDKCould anyone tell me how to get identd working?06:45
SkapareSuseUX: well Slackware does try to keep some distance from the bloody edge :)06:45
Quinthiusboxerboy29: uname -a06:45
Licker Is 5.10 better than 5.04? In peoples opinion?06:45
Diskgrindeubuntu is  for school enviroments.. so that a teacher can sync up with students and such06:45
SuseUXSkapare, :-)06:45
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WhyvasLTX development libraries not found06:45
SkapareSuseUX: of course, libraries are suspect, and frequently ... usually ... are a source of bugs06:45
QuinthiusLicker: yes, why wouldn't it be?06:45
boxerboy29ok wtf happened06:45
WhyvasLTwhich libs are these?06:45
DiskgrindI have a teacher that is going to be using it06:45
arctichi, i want to choose an icon wenn i put a starter on a desktop, but all picture-formats are grey(so i cant click on them) does somebody has an idea to solve that?06:46
Belutzubotu: tell TokenBad about javadeb06:46
boxerboy292.6.12 :(06:46
SuseUXSkapare, Preemption maybe?06:46
Quinthiusboxerboy29: and...?06:46
SkapareSuseUX: I tracked a serious bug in glibc for several versions until it finally got fixed06:46
bazz-Diskgrind so both teacher and student should be using it, in order to be useful?06:46
boxerboy29thats not newest?06:46
SuseUXheh06:46
Lickerwhy? Well, in WIN 2k blows XP away. :p  Just making sure its worth the install on my 3 PCs.06:46
Diskgrindit seems that way.. in a class setup06:46
Quinthiusboxerboy29: apparently not, but so? it's pretty close06:46
boxerboy29i just downloaded one today rebooted and that was only option in grub06:46
SkapareSuseUX: serious as in the strtold() functions converted numbers to floating point MAJORLY wrong06:46
bazz-ic, i'll stick with the standard ubuntu then06:47
Diskgrindthere are other parts as well that bring a teacher closer to the students..06:47
TokenBadBelutz, which of those 2 do I need?06:47
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BelutzTokenBad, what do you want java for?06:47
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SkapareSuseUX: it never segfaulted, but it was so bad I had to write my own strtold() function instead06:47
DiskgrindI have tried all three and I like gnome so far06:47
TokenBadj2re106:47
sigis the acroread-plugin broken?06:47
SuseUXSkapare, one day I will get into coding, just dont know where to start, can you help as were talking about it?06:47
Diskgrindbut thats just my opinion.06:47
TokenBadjust to run azureus06:47
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Quinthiusboxerboy29: for most people there's no real need to have the absolute latest kernel unless there are major bug fixes or needed hardware support06:47
bazz-thanks for the info Diskgrind06:47
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Diskgrindok06:48
SkapareSuseUX: what kind of help?06:48
bazz-later06:48
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SuseUXSkapare, I place to start from scratch, like a website?06:48
Quinthiusboxerboy29: 2.6.12 is only one stable version behind 2.6.14 (.13 and all other odd numbers are devel versions)06:48
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BelutzTokenBad, then maybe you only need the j2re06:48
boxerboy29thats not my point if the time does come where there are bug fixes than that would me suse will screw that up than06:48
SkapareSuseUX: to learn coding?06:48
SuseUXyes06:48
Diskgrindhow about video drivers.. is it easy to get better ones than what ubuntu uses???06:48
SkapareSuseUX: what language(s) do you want to learn?06:49
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SuseUXSkapare, gnome language :-)06:49
PrimoTurboIs there anyway to access a linux partition from windows xp? A program or anything?06:49
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Diskgrindpartition magic06:49
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SkapareSuseUX: the language gnome is written in ... I believe that is C06:49
PrimoTurboI need to read a file from the linux partition!06:49
BelutzPrimoTurbo, yes there is, but i forgot the app name06:49
PrimoTurboin windows xp06:49
Diskgrindoops sorry then  primoturbo06:50
QuinthiusPrimoTurbo: what filesystem is your linux partition? if ext2/ext3 there is a program you can use... reiser may have windows tools also06:50
SkaparePrimoTurbo: what filesystem?  ext2? ext3? reiserfs?06:50
Diskgrindext3 i think06:50
PrimoTurboext306:50
SuseUXSkapare, I want to learn gnome coding and gtk+ stuff06:50
PrimoTurbodefault ubuntu one06:50
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QuinthiusPrimoTurbo: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm06:51
topyliSuseUX: the core of gnome is c but it has bindings for almost all the popular languages06:51
DiskgrindWindows xp cant read those types of partitions, but you knew that.. lol06:51
QuinthiusPrimoTurbo: i'm not sure if it allows you to WRITE data, but it should be able to read just fine06:51
SkapareSuseUX: do you want to throughly understand all the machine mechanisms of programming, or do you want to just go for creating abstract constructions and let compilers worry about the machine?06:51
PrimoTurboI don't need to write just read06:51
PrimoTurbothnx06:51
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SuseUXSkapare, just how to code apps!06:52
SkapareSuseUX: for some people I recommend learning assembly language FIRST ... then C ... then Pike ... then Java06:52
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kbrooksSkapare: learning asm is overkill for noobs06:52
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XorlevNeed a little help with Kubuntu Breezy...I just installed it clean from the Kubuntu Breezy Preview disk onto a separate partition than my normal system. It seems to work perfectly other than one thing: the mouse is messed up. The mouse moves, the programs work, but unable to click or hover over anything. I can select UI elements with my keyboard and use them, but the mouse refuses to work correctly. Once when I removed my USB mouse and plugged in a P06:52
XorlevS/2 mouse it started working correctly, but then after a reboot it did the same thing with the PS/2 mouse. I also upgraded completely (apt-get update, apt-get upgrade) and the same symptoms before and after.06:52
SuseUXSkapare, i'm 33 years old, i'm i young enough? :-)06:53
SkapareSuseUX: in general if you want to end up coding in C ... I do recommend learning some assembly ... and it is better to learn the assembly BEFORE learning C06:53
PrimoTurbowhich directory is the Desktop located under?06:53
naliothPrimoTurbo: your home dir06:53
SuseUXright06:53
SkapareSuseUX: you can learn this stuff06:53
PrimoTurboI see now06:53
QuinthiusSuseUX: you may want to look into python, it seems to be pretty popular and versatile... a lot of ubuntu tools are written in python, as is gentoo's portage/emerge stuff06:53
PrimoTurboThnx it was listed at the bottom06:53
SkapareSuseUX: one issue, though, is x86 is a crappy machine language to learn ... I learned S/370 and Sparc assembly06:54
SuseUXback to basics hey!06:54
SkaparePython is also a good choice ... insert between Pike and Java06:54
SuseUXQuinthius, yer, python seems the way to go06:54
Skaparee.g. ... assembly >> C >> Pike >> Python >> Java06:54
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Skaparenote that I do not include Perl and PHP in that list ... they are learnable as branches from that track after Pike06:55
PrimoTurboLooks like it's working, thank you so much06:55
PrimoTurbo:)06:55
SuseUXare they hard to learn?06:55
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seifeHi06:55
seifeI have my USB headphones plugged06:55
seifeBut i dont know why im not getting sound, help.06:55
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seifeI do get with the speakers..06:56
SkapareSuseUX: depends ... if you start with assembly, each is progressively easier06:56
Lickeris the valume turned up? ;)06:56
zubuntuHello06:56
SkapareSuseUX: assembly is hard ... but not as hard as if you try it AFTER some other language06:56
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SkapareSuseUX: if you decide to skip assembly ... don't bother trying to go back06:56
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SkapareSuseUX: if you decide to skip C ... don't bother trying to go back06:57
SuseUXSkapare, I want to, 1. contribute to gnome, 2. make my own apps06:57
zubuntuCurrently I am testing breezy but I have strange problems with dns06:57
SkapareSuseUX: then at least learn C06:57
SuseUXok06:57
kbrookshow can i monitor a user's activities?06:57
SkapareSuseUX: the Pike step is skippable for your case06:57
Lickeris anyone having probs with breezy server wise?06:57
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SuseUXC and python then?06:58
zubuntuLicker: Yes06:58
kbrookshow can i monitor a user's activities?06:58
SkapareSuseUX: so maybe C followed by Python06:58
joeewhy are u using breezy?06:58
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joeeC is dead06:58
QuinthiusSuseUX: in the unix/linux world, you can't go wrong with C, though some other languages are starting to get pretty popular... perl of course for scripting... python, and recently C#/mono stuff06:58
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zubuntuI am using breezy to see where are the pitfalls before I upgrade an entire pool (26 machines) to breezy06:58
SkapareSuseUX: you'll have to work on understanding pointers in C since it's really an assembly thing ... if you skip assembly, pointers are harder06:58
kbrookshow can i monitor a user's activities?06:58
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GeKooalgun espaol k sepa configurar winecsv?06:59
Belutz!es06:59
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:59
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SuseUXSkapare, so whats the way for a clean coded app and nice code?06:59
joeeSkapare pointers are something to forget about06:59
kbrookshow can i monitor a user's activities?06:59
Quinthius... forget about pointers?06:59
kbrooksin ssh06:59
Skaparejoee: if you don't do pointers, don't do C07:00
joeeSuseUX that's totally independent of the language your using07:00
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SkapareSuseUX: many ways to that ... learn programming well07:00
passionhi i'm trying out Qubuntu and was wondering if it can be used as webhosting server07:00
SuseUXthats down to the user?07:00
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joeeSuseUX to the programmer07:00
Seveasehrm -> programming langiage discussions are better held in #ubuntu-offtopic07:00
zubuntuIs here someone who can explain my the strange hpiod stuff in breezy?07:00
Seveasthis is a support channel07:00
joee:)07:00
SkapareSuseUX: I've known programmers that know 2 dozen languages and can't program their way out of a box07:01
SuseUXI guess optimization and speed comes with C coding skills?07:01
SeveasSkapare, SuseUX -> #ubuntu-offtopic07:01
SuseUXheh07:01
SkapareSuseUX: really good programmers work to understand better what it is their programs really need to do07:01
SkapareSeveas: OK07:01
Seveasthnx07:01
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Seveaskbrooks, tail -f ~user/.bashrc :)07:02
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passioni'm using it on vmware on a windows xp system together it seems almost like windows i need it for webhosting was wondering if thiers away to make a boot cd or floppy to install it07:02
SkapareSuseUX: I'm on #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue07:03
pioneerthe other day i read a post in the forums that had a nice little script to install mplayer and all that and now i cant find it again, anyone happen to know it off hand?07:03
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SuseUXSeveas, i'm going to be programming in ubuntu, thats not off-topic surely?07:03
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kbrooksSeveas: not effective07:03
SeveasSuseUX, it is if you make it a lengthy discussion07:03
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SkapareSuseUX: it's not really that much of an ubuntu topic ... it applies to any system07:03
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SuseUXok07:03
Seveaspioneer, apt-get install mplayer07:03
kbrooksSeveas: No.07:04
kbrooks!info mplayer breezy07:04
DevGetIf I have a wincomputer and then istall ubuntu, do I have to reinstall windows again?07:04
SkapareSuseUX: or visit language specific channels here ... such as #C or #Python07:04
Seveasah true07:04
seifeHi07:04
seifeI have my USB headphones plugged07:04
seifeBut i dont know why im not getting sound, help.07:04
kbrooksSeveas: it doesnt exist07:04
Seveasmplayer-586 (intel) or mplayer-k707:04
seifeI do get with the speakers..07:04
SuseUXSkapare,  ok thanks :-)07:04
passionu can run ubuntu together with windows at same time07:04
zubuntuAnyone experienced in breezy here? How can I avoid the overwritting off /etc/resolf.conf by hpiod's networkmanager?07:05
Seveaszubuntu, it's probably dhclient that's overwriting it07:05
WhyvasLThttp://www.google.co.ck/07:05
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Seveas!dns07:05
ubotuSeveas: Are you smoking crack?07:05
calamarihi07:05
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Seveaswiki.ubuntu.com/DnsDhcp (or something like that) zubuntu07:06
zubuntuSeveas: No. its dhclients resolv.conf that is overwritten.07:06
Monseife: i'm not sure usb mic's work in linux at all. you tried google?07:06
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pioneerSeveas, there is a script someone wrote and posted in the forums that installs mplayer and mplayer plugin and everything, gets passed all this crap, i thought it was titled easiest way ever to install mplayer, but i cant find it now07:07
Seveaszubuntu, that wiki page explains how to prevent it07:07
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calamariI installed firestarter, which put itself in /etc/init.d/.  The program requires root permissions, which it never asks for (and would be annoying anyways).  Is there a way I can set it up to automatically run?  Right now it just pops up an error because it wanted root07:07
Seveaspioneer, such scripts generally have the possibility to wreck your system07:07
kemikpioneer:  dont you just have to apt-get install mplayer-386 mozilla-mplayer  ?07:07
seifeMon, No i haven't, i had sound on headphones the other day..07:07
seifeWhen i just installed07:07
pioneerSeveas, i used it already once and it was awesome07:07
passioni was thinking of switching to ubuntu but system is newer and does'nt except iso images anyone know how to make a boot floppy or cd to boot the iso image07:07
pioneerkemik, no worky07:07
zubuntuSeveas: dhclient isn't my problem, its hpiods Networkmanager.07:08
zubuntuIt replaces the dns setup by dhclient by a local caching dns07:08
seifeIs there any panel where i can tell linux what hardware read?07:08
Blejdfistpassion: ... burn the ISO-image to a CD07:08
Seveaspioneer, I saw that script once and it sucked (better than script I've seen before but it still sucked)07:08
seifelike sound: speakers\headphones07:08
passiontried that even used isobuster no lucker07:08
pioneerSeveas, it worked great for me, id like to use it again07:08
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kemikSeveas:  got any idea why Rhythmbox in breezy depends on totem-gstreamer | totem-xine ? (and how would i go about changing that dependency, i've checked the controlfile in control.tar.gz...)07:09
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Blejdfistpassion: do you have a burner-program, (assuming you are in Windows) Nero, CDRWIN etc?07:10
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Seveaskemik, edit the controlfile and put it in the deb07:10
Seveas:)07:10
passionsonic on a dell using windows xp07:10
Blejdfistpassion: http://www.wizardskeep.org/mainhall/tutor/neroiso.html07:11
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kemikSeveas:  yeah, but how? :)07:11
kemikSeveas:  couldnt just repack the .deb with the archive-manager07:11
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mvhentenOk, hello here,07:12
delirekemik: dpkg-deb?07:13
mvhentenI'ts propably been asked 100 times in this channel07:13
mvhentenbut how do I install the ati drivers on ubuntu07:13
kemikdelire:  that sounds reasonable07:13
kemikty07:13
mvhentenespecially: enable mttr, and disable agpgart07:13
naliothubotu: tell mvhenten about ati07:13
mvhentenbefore I do anything stupid and start hackin in the config files07:13
passioni tried my external iomega burner with nero still no luck07:14
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passioneven burned as raw data07:14
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Blejdfistpassion: does the CD work, can you open it in Windows after you burned it? What does it contain?07:14
calamariI installed firestarter, which put itself in /etc/init.d/.  The program requires root permissions, which it never asks for (and would be annoying anyways).  Is there a way I can set it up to automatically run?  Right now it just pops up an error because it wanted root07:14
deliremvhenten: there's a page on the wiki about this.07:15
deliremvhenten: BinaryDriverHowto or similar..07:15
naliothcalamari: firestarter is not required to run. it just edits your iptables07:15
passionif i use isobuster to open image file i can see all the files07:15
deliremvhenten:07:15
deliremvhenten: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28BinaryDriverHowto%2907:15
Blejdfistpassion: and when you burn it and open the disc?07:16
calamarinalioth: oic.. so it isn't actually doing anything?  it just reports what the kernel is doing?07:16
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naliothcalamari: one you configure your iptables, they are configured07:16
passionnothing it bypass's to the xp system07:16
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deliremvhenten: follow those steps exactly, or else you'll surely make a mess. secondly, ensure that any previous installations of Nvidia drivers etc (if you are swapping cards) are completely removed.07:16
Blejdfisti don't understand what you mean07:17
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bam_does anyone know how to stop mounting a drive at 8 different mount points?07:17
passioneven added a linux partition using pqmagic in dos07:17
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delirebam_ not sure i understand. are these mountpoints reflected in /etc/fstab?07:17
bam_no07:17
mvhentendelire, I'll have a look - no nvdia but ati eh - I already did a custom install of the source package ( compiled the drivers)07:17
bam_its considered a usb hdd07:17
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delirebam_ type 'mount' are there really 8 mountpoints?07:18
bam_yup07:18
Blejdfistpassion: are you sure you burned the ISO correctly.. that is, not putting the ISO on the disc but actually burning the ISO Image (follow the guide i gave you)07:18
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calamarinalioth: so if I do want it to run anyways, do I need to setuid root?07:18
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Blejdfistpassion: also check that your BIOS is configured to boot from CD-ROM07:18
xophErhow can I change the gnome-panel 'ubuntu icon' ? (breezy) I tried renaming the /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-icon-logo-transparent.png but with no effect. Worked before though..07:18
deliremvhenten: this is the way i do it also, so you only want features et al now? why not use 'fglrxconfig'07:18
Dr_Willisfglrxconfig - makes some very poor x config files from what ive seen07:19
delirebam_ who mounted these?07:19
Dr_Willisthey tend to skip some little parts/tweaks/changes07:19
passioni did followed instructions from many sites but the ntfs format does'nt want to recognize or open it07:19
SeveasxophEr, remove /usr/share/icons/hicolor/gnome-theme.cache07:19
Seveasicon0theme.csache*07:19
Seveasicon-theme.cache*07:19
Seveas(damn I need coffee)07:19
delireDr_Willis: fine here, i just use the relevant parts and paste it into my /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:19
xophErSeveas, allright thanks :)07:20
bam_i suppose there is some script automounting these07:20
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delirebam_ it sounds like it.07:20
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bam_but where?07:20
delirebam_ what is the drive being used for?07:20
GrooManI already have installed ubuntu Breezy Badger in my notebook, I just finished installing it in a old computer I have. The problem is that when it was supposed to enter the login screen, it just turns off the screen and does nothing. Can anybody help??07:20
Dr_Willisdelire,  yea.. but all ive ever had to do to the original ubuntu made x org config . was change 'ati' to 'fglrx'  under the Driver section.07:20
joe_how do i install s=codecs?07:20
mouhezdoes the 64-bit edition run 32-bit software slower than the 32-bit edition?07:20
bam_just a usb hdd07:20
bam_actually a zaurus07:21
bam_but it presents itself as a usbhdd07:21
xophErSeveas, there is no icon-theme.cache in there07:21
passioni downloaded the vmware 5.5 which allows u to run multiple systems at same time it installed fine but lags some want to try it as one system07:21
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djm62GrooMan: it sounds like you haven't got X configured right07:22
delireDr_Willis: of course, but that doesn't give you options like  "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"07:22
djm62GrooMan: can you get into a console with ctrl-alt-f1 ?07:22
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GrooManyep07:22
Dr_Willisdelire,  never needed them :P07:23
djm62GrooMan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would be a good first try then07:23
calamariweird.. the new version of firefox changes my mouse pointer to the default ugly one07:23
delireDr_Willis: fair enough, as a graphics programmer i take interest in such things ;)07:23
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Dr_Willisdelire,  i just play games.  well mame.07:23
Dr_Willisi still find the whole way the x config files are set up to be a little  awkward..07:24
thompajust did update in breezy. no sound in bzflag now07:24
Dr_Willislovely when your x fails to start when ya make a typo changeing your mouse to use 5 buttons. :P07:24
joe_anyone know how to install codecs?07:24
GrooManit tells that xserver-xorg isn't installed?07:24
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thompawhats the mixer application?07:24
laviebohemeI'm using the LiveCD version of Ubuntu. I'm not hearing any sound, even when I use the CD Player app. I already checked the cables, etc. Could someone help me?07:24
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uojosort -n fichero me ordena numericamente un fichero pero si yo quiero decirle un campo como lo hago?07:25
delireDr_Willis  great, it's been years since i've looked at them. do you have a good site for resourcing mame games?07:25
passionhttp://practice.chatserve.com is a chat server and webserver together must d/l both i'm looking to host but can't seem to create the files and connect thier linux based07:25
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nalioth!es07:25
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:25
GrooManwait, it had a typo, sorry07:25
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seifeHow do i install my HP ScanJet 3200c in linux? I have it installed on windows, i had to download a hp control software.07:25
thompalavieboheme: is it breezy?07:26
Dr_Willisdelire,  the original mame homepage. :P of are ya wanting to track down the roms?07:26
slewhi. i really need to move files from ubuntu to a windows directory, but it says i dont have permission. i also cant log in as root to do these things. how do i make it so i can move files from one os to another?07:26
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Dr_Willisw32codecs - i grabbed from   http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/07:26
laviebohemethompa: what do you mean, "breezy"?07:26
naliothslew: permissions are everything07:26
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thompawhat version of ubuntu?07:26
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naliothDr_Willis: there is a !w32codecs trigger that covers hoary and breezy07:26
Dr_Willisslew,  is it a mounted ntfs partition? or are you refering to a network-share ?07:26
lavieboheme5.04 for intel x8607:26
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Dr_Willisnalioth,  about time :P lol07:26
slewmounted w32 partition07:27
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Dr_Willisnalioth,  sort of odd that ya need 2packages differnet to just copy over a bunch of dll's07:27
Belutzubotu, tell slew about windowsdrives07:27
Dr_Willisor thats all it seemed to be in the packages when i lookd at them07:27
delirehehe i like this in the above site posted by Dr_Willis "It looks like you're not running Windows or MacOS. If that's true, then you can probably figure out how to install BitTorrent on your platform."07:27
naliothDr_Willis: i didnt make em, i just advise em07:27
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Dr_Willisdelire,  lol. i dont see that.07:28
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thompalavieboheme: sorry im on 5.1007:28
laviebohemeoh07:28
laviebohemeok07:28
delireDr_Willis: a little presumptious of them ;)07:28
maeIs beagled and best supposed to start by default in breezy? .. I have the search and indexing services enabled on the preferences panel, but there is no beagle icon, and when I open beagle search under 'accessories' it says 'beagle daemon not started' when i type in a search phrase07:28
thompahaving some sound issues myself07:28
passionif anyone runs across the anwsers for me u can post them at http://passion.sharpsphere.com under forum would appreciate any help07:28
laviebohemethanks anyway07:28
thompawhat is your sound card?07:28
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laviebohemei'm not sure. i think it's ACS something07:29
Monmae: not by default afaik07:29
thompaanybody: whats the mixer in ubuntu?07:29
passiongoin see if i can figure it out again07:29
passiontc07:29
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slewok the link that ubotu sent me just goes to a page full of source code, nothing to download. =[07:29
thompais ubuntu using alsa?07:29
Monmae: and the indexing service thing doesn't work for me either07:29
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squid0hello07:29
brosioanyone use mrtg ? how could monitor only port 22 of eth0 ?07:29
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thompapreferences: sound from menu07:29
squid0my computer just died! :(07:30
calamariahh, found the answer :) http://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php#trayicon07:30
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thompalavieboheme: do you have a system menus with preferences: sund ?07:30
thompasound07:30
laviebohemeyes07:30
SuseUXWow, the updates are comming in thick and fast07:30
thompawhat does it say07:30
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squid0i booted, and the GRUB message was garbled (o instead of n plus others).07:31
thompalavieboheme:  Dfault sound card?07:31
slew argh! = No usable windows/mac partitions found07:31
laviebohemethompa: it has tabs saying "general" "sound events" and "system bell"07:31
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laviebohemethompa: no, it doesn't say that07:32
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thompalavieboheme:  in general is there nothing under default sound card?07:32
laviebohemei don't see anything that says "default sound card"07:32
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squid0then just a screen full of exclamation marks. so i rebooted, and now as soon as it boots it makes a series of beeps, and then nothing. screen stays blank.07:33
carlsonhey guys! i am trying to update my firefox to 1.07 version. I am using the hoary wich instaled firefox 1.02 by default... is there an EASY way to install firefox 1.0 7 on this PC?07:33
atgHi, how is the module loading built up in Ubuntu? I'm used with modconf and debian07:33
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LionRockhi all07:33
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squid0help, anyone???07:34
squid0please?07:34
LionRockwhich module I nead for apache to run cgi scripts07:34
iafdadd backports to your repos?07:34
SkapareLionRock: modcgi07:34
killmshello07:34
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carlsonhey guys! i am trying to update my firefox to 1.07 version. I am using the hoary wich instaled firefox 1.02 by default... is there an EASY way to install firefox 1.0 7 on this PC?07:34
naliothcarlson: dont repeat07:35
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squid0carlson: never do that. wait, and retype after a while. it's rude to just post the exact same message07:35
naliothcarlson: wait a few minutes tween the same question07:35
LionRockSkapare,  so in mods-enabled directory I must have cgi.load ? right ?07:35
iafdcarlson, search for ubuntu backports, add one of the mirrors to your repositores in synaptic, then search for firefox, install?07:35
carlsonnalioth, sorry man, i am old to mirc, but i dont use it since 2000 lol, i forgot the good manners07:36
zburnsAnybody help me install breezy on a laptop with intermittent working cd drive? (can I install via serial)?07:36
carlsoniafd, ok what exaclty is that backports07:36
carlson?07:36
carlsonwhere do i find it?07:36
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iafdthey're repositories with the latest software, afaik07:36
iafdgoogle it07:36
djm62zburns: can you install it via the network?07:36
naliothubotu: tell carlson about backports07:36
PUTU_PLUTOanybody can say me the numbers of usuarios are in internet on the world? or on the spain? xD can you understand me? -_-'07:37
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zburnsI've got a wireless card in there (debian doesn't recognize, but supposedly breezy does)07:37
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carlsonsorry, i am new to ubuntu... still dont know even what is a backport ,07:37
djm62Anybody here know how to troubleshoot mono?07:37
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SuseUXlater07:37
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Dr_Williscarlson,  i am vague on that topic also. :P never used the,07:37
zburnsdjm62: I'm running mono under breezy07:37
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djm62zburns: any way to use a wired network for the duration of the install?07:37
squid0booting troubleshooting please? help?07:37
Weemsis there a ubuntu package for xchat 2.4.5?07:38
zburnsdjm62: yes, I can do that...how can I start netinstall?07:38
niyihello *07:38
niyii'm totally new to ubuntu, and debian based distros in general... (tho i'm not a total n00b)07:38
djm62zburns: I have breezy (just updated from hoary) and mono keeps choking...I've purged everything I can think of and reinstalled, still chokes07:38
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carlsonhey, i found a solution... i changed my repositories from hoary to breezy, then firefox 1.07 is there... is it safe to upgrade this way?07:38
thompadoes ubuntu use alsa???07:39
djm62zburns: umm I'm not sure, there'll be a wikipage on netinstall07:39
iafdyeah, breezy is supposed to be quite stable07:39
niyihow would i check services configured in my runlevel in ubuntu?07:39
kbrookscarlson: not upgrading07:39
zburnsdjm62: ok, thanks.  re: mono, you have reference to universal repos?07:39
naliothubotu: tell carlson about upgrade2breezy07:39
thompalavieboheme:  try breezy install07:39
iafdcarlson :  when there's a new ubuntu release, the software you can get via synaptic is frozen, backports are an extra, unofficial service you can configure to, say, always get the most up to date release of firefox, or whatever software. or so is my understanding. get it?07:39
kbrooksniyi: links you may want to be acquianted with (for ubuntu):07:39
Dr_Willisthompa,   ubuntu uses alsa mainly07:40
kbrooks!rootsudo07:40
ubotufrom memory, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo07:40
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thompa lavieboheme: 5.10 (Breezy Badger) Preview07:40
carlsoniafd.... ok ,. now i got it.... i will try.. thanks a lot07:40
kbrooks!synaptic07:40
djm62zburns: yeah, I have the repositories, and the packages are installing, just not running07:40
kbrooksdang07:40
dell500i had ubuntu ship me some cds, do you think they will send me BB instead of HH?07:40
zburnsdjm62: what happens when you type 'mono' at terminal?07:41
carlsonubotu, tell carlson about gaim07:41
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thompaDr_Willis: alsaconf does not work, or is not there07:41
kbrooksdell500: they *SHOULD*. When did you have them ship cds07:41
ubotuI guess synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto07:41
Ubunti_KiSo, anyone who knows whats wrong if "Kate" dont show terminal? Maybe someone wants to see a picture taken of my kate? I can put it in pastein07:41
Ubunti_Kipastebin07:41
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djm62zburns: hang on, I'm at the "purge" stage of the cycle, I'll reinstall07:42
Dr_Willisthompa,  cant say that ive ever tried it. :P07:42
thompaDr_Willis: how can i configure my sound. is there a gui?07:42
thompai saw one but now cant find it07:42
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thompamy game sound is off07:42
Dr_Willisthompa,  actually ive rarely had to configure or do anything with the sound other then use the alsamixer. may want to check the wiki.forums on sound.07:42
PUTU_PLUTOanybody can say me the numbers of usuarios are in internet on the world? or on the spain? xD can you understand me? -_-'07:42
PUTU_PLUTOanybody can say me the numbers of usuarios are in internet on the world? or on the spain? xD can you understand me? -_-'07:42
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thompaso alsamixer is there cool. thanks07:42
Dr_WillisPUTU_PLUTO,  the answer is 4207:43
Dr_Willisnow go away.07:43
kbrooksPUTU_PLUTO: 1007:43
PUTU_PLUTO42 milions in the worl? can you speake spanish? sorry -.-'07:43
kbrooksDr_Willis: what did he do?07:43
Dr_WillisPUTU_PLUTO,  no  just '42' :P07:43
kbrooks!es07:43
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:43
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PUTU_PLUTOaaah okey thank you!07:44
Dr_Willis:)07:44
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albackerguys can someone tell me the link in ubuntu, that shows about the w32codecs ? '07:44
Dr_Willis!w2codecs07:44
ubotuDr_Willis: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:44
Dr_Willislol07:44
naliothubotu: tell albacker about w32codecs07:44
kbrooks!w32codecs07:44
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ubotuw32codecs is, like, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)07:44
joe_moi aussi dr willis07:44
thompaanybody know why my game sound stopped: namely bzflag07:44
naliothkbrooks: Dr_Willis y'all let ubotu send factoids, please07:45
thompaafter update07:45
thompathere was a sound utility somewhere in ubuntu07:45
albacker!Restricted07:45
uboturestricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:45
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djm62zburns: mono runs ok, gives usage info.  f-spot gives " System.DllNotFoundException: gnomeui-2"07:46
nxv_how do i get the id tags of a flac? mp3info doesn't work07:46
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thompaDr_Willis: multimedia systems selector..that was it07:46
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Jedricki have this error everytime i open mplayer and play some file, " New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text fone line (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).07:46
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Dr_Willisthompa,  never used it. :P07:47
thompaare you on breezy?07:47
naliothJedrick: install mplayer fonts pkg07:47
Jedrickok07:47
hamletxhi07:47
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hamletxi'm having problems with a broken package any ideas?07:47
hamletxis the phpmyadmin07:47
albackerguys i have breezy installed, so should i put the breezy apt's in source,list or hoary/warty. might it be dangerous if i put breezy one's. [breezy is the unstable one right... ]  !?07:48
HexstreamHi, I have a problem whenever I try to install/upgrade with apt-get (and consequently Synaptic etc) recently... I get the following error message:07:48
HexstreamFailed to create initrd image.07:48
Hexstreamdpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 (--configure):07:48
Hexstream subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 207:48
zburnsdjm62: ah, think I ran into something similar....let me check07:48
hamletxI'm trying to uninstall the apacha2 and i couldn't07:48
thompa!sound07:48
naliothHexstream: please do not paste in here07:48
ubotusomebody said sound was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary07:48
djm62:)07:48
kbrooksalbacker: breezy is rc quality07:48
ompaulalbacker, then you need breezy in there07:48
thompa!alsa07:48
ubotualsa is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206307:48
Hexstreamoh sorry..07:48
naliothHexstream: use #flood or a pastebin07:48
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Hexstreamwhat's #flood ?07:49
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naliothHexstream: a channel for pasting into07:49
jurp5what is faster ubuntu or archwhat is faster ubuntu or arch07:49
Hexstreamoh...07:49
kbrooksjurp5: subjective07:49
jurp5?07:49
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Hexstreamguess I'll just erase the newlines next time07:49
ompaulalbacker, albacker if you install breezy then you must use its repos07:49
kbrooksjurp5: and please dont repeat07:49
RexKwonDoIdiot question:  I still see the blue Kubuntu startup image even though I have successfully switched back to the chocolately goodness of Ubuntu.  How do I bring back the brown??07:50
RexKwonDothis is from boot07:50
albackerompaul, ok thanks..07:50
thompahow should i "!"?07:50
thompaso you guys dont complain07:50
Dr_WillisRexKwonDo,  i disabled the whole thing. :P it looked ugly07:50
kbrooksthompa: a!07:51
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kbrooksnot a!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:51
thompaa!07:51
naliothkbrooks: ?07:51
kbrooksthats a example.07:51
ompaulHexstream, however pastebin is better paste.ubuntulinux.nl (book mark it now) the reason is that you can refer people to materials that are old #pastebin is only there for as long as the people in the channel are there and it does not leave the scroll buffer, but no one new can see it07:51
RexKwonDowell, is there to make bootup a visual-less process?07:51
squid0hey kbrooks07:51
kbrookssquid0: ?07:51
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squid0salutations07:51
squid0:P07:51
thompakbrooks: do you mean type my name first?07:51
kbrookshi? :P07:51
zburnsdjm62: nope, something different...you could try asking on the #mono channel on gnome irc07:51
Ubunti_KiDoes someone know problems with "kate" in Ubuntu?07:52
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kbrooksthompa: yes, and don't repeat exclamation marks.07:52
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djm62ah, that explains why the local chanel is unpopulated07:52
squid0kbrooks: salutations=greetings07:52
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tylerdurdenhey how do i make a root account? root:andmypassword wont work07:52
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argonsizewhi07:52
djm62thompa: you mean !command for ubotu don't you?07:52
ompaulthompa, you should /msg ubotu <keyword> that way the whole channel does not see your conversation (rather one sided as it is) with the bot :-)07:52
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RexKwonDosalivations=slobberings07:52
thompayes yes07:52
naliothubotu: tell tylerdurden about root07:52
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ompaul!tell tylerdurden about sudo07:52
marcoHI to all ubuntu world!07:52
Ubunti_KiWhy can't I see the bloody terminal in my "kate" ?07:53
squid0RexWonDo: dream of californication07:53
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kbrooksUbunti_Ki: try konsole07:53
Hexstreamompaul: guess I'll try that thing07:53
Ubunti_KiDo I have ti07:53
tylerdurden!tell tylerdurden about ubuntu07:53
kbrooksUbunti_Ki: no, but try it07:53
Ubunti_Kikonsole? kbrooks07:53
Ubunti_Kihow kbrooks ?07:53
psycodeare there mirrors for breezy repositories ? (cause its extremly slow right now)07:54
ompaultylerdurden, please do that with /msg ubotu <keyword>07:54
Jedricknow i got this error when playing files on mplayer, " ERROR: Could not open required DirectShow codec wmvmod.dll. "07:54
kbrooksUbunti_Ki: do you even know how to use kde?07:54
naliothubotu: tell Jedrick about w32codecs07:54
Ubunti_KiOh, I use Gnome....07:54
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ompaulUbunti_Ki, try gedit in that case07:55
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Ubunti_KiI have tried KDE but not in Ubuntu07:55
ackhi guys I was wonder how come I can't use cfdisk in ubuntu live?07:55
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tarzeauanyone joins #bub-n-bros ? http://bub-n-bros.sf.net ?07:55
Ubunti_KiDoes that fix Kate? Or is gedit something like kate?07:55
ompaulUbunti_Ki, then do this  >> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop << best starting point for KDE on ubuntu07:56
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thompaompaul: do you mean i should "/msg ubotu keyword"07:56
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ompaulthompa, yes07:56
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thompaompaul: but it gives me nothing07:56
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naliothubotu: tell thompa about msg the bot07:56
ompaulthompa, you use the keyword if the bot has an answer then it will be forth coming07:56
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Hexstreamhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/288507:57
Ubunti_Kikubuntu desktop, okay.  Does that give me a choice to start KDE at login?07:57
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psycodeare there any mirror repositories for breezy ?07:57
thompaompaul: but "!" gives me different answers07:57
naliothpsycode: none up to date07:57
Ubunti_Kiompaul, ok and then?07:57
nalioththompa: it does not07:57
RockyBurtso do people run Ubuntu on servers?07:57
thompaok07:58
djm62RockyBurt: there is a server distro07:58
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RockyBurtdjm62: there is? url?07:58
kbrooksRockyBurt: i do07:58
thompathompa: sound!07:58
ompaulthompa what keyword are you using?07:58
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thompaompaul: sound07:59
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QuinthiusRockyBurt: i don't tink there is a seperate DISTRO for servers, but you can choose to do a server install, which doesn't install all the GUI / desktop-user stuff07:59
djm62RockyBurt: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/teams/server I know nothing of it, but there is a team ;)07:59
tylerdurdencan someone help me with root? it says root is not allowed to log in from this screen07:59
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ompaul!sound07:59
ubotusound is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary07:59
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Dr_Willis!root07:59
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:59
tylerdurdeni was just tehre dr willis07:59
Dr_Willis:)07:59
ompaultylerdurden, read what the bot ubotu messaged you07:59
tylerdurdeni set up a password for root but it says im not allowed to log in07:59
naliothtylerdurden: you were told last night how to enable root07:59
tylerdurdenno that wasnt it nalioth08:00
thompaompaul: my question is. is it ok to do that because everyone sees it and it clutters08:00
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tylerdurdeni just formatted and i dont have root anymore08:00
naliothtylerdurden: yes it was. i saw the msg to you08:00
tylerdurdenso i want to set it up08:00
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tylerdurdennaioth can u tell me how again? how to open a new root account08:00
ompaulthompa, the key is simple, the first word changes the urls don't08:00
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naliothtylerdurden: did you read your ubotu priv msgs?08:00
tylerdurdenwhen was that? i just logged out to check so i dont have it anymore08:00
HexstreamHi, I have a "post installation script" error with apt-get: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/288508:01
tylerdurdenwas it the link? the link didnt help08:01
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naliothtylerdurden: http://ubuntuguide.org/#allowrootlogingnome08:01
ackhas anyone tried to install MAX OSX on a PC?08:01
Ubunti_Kiwhat exactly does "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:01
Hexstreamevery linux forum in the world seems to have someone with that problem but none has an answer08:01
Ubunti_Ki" do?08:01
vitriolwhat should i install to get flash on ubuntu amd64?08:01
ompaultylerdurden, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs << that URL contains all the info from last night - your location may impact the timestamps08:01
hyperactivecrondUbunti_Ki, it installes kde08:01
tylerdurdenthahnks08:01
hyperactivecrondand the kubuntu base if youre missing anything in it08:02
ompaulUbunti_Ki, it install KDE set up and configured nicely for Ubuntu08:02
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QuinthiusUbunti_Ki: installs the meta-package kubuntu-desktop, which pulls in KDE packages and stuff08:02
hyperactivecrondok my problem: i try to mount an iso image...08:02
hyperactivecrondand i get a nice error:08:02
rukuarticAnyone want to help me with installing ndiswrapper without using apt-get?08:02
ompaulonly root wants to do that?08:02
thompaompaul: sorry. can i "!" so that it is not public?08:02
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qmanmanjava!08:03
GrooManI just installed ubuntu 5.10 RC, and the graphic card selected was VESA because I ddidn't remenber the model so... now I only have 800x600 and 640x480 resolutions available, but in xorg.conf theres also 1024x768 but it don't show up in the menu, whats the problem?08:03
hyperactivecrondchris@beanburrito:~$ sudo mount vtx-web.cdi loop -o loop08:03
hyperactivecrondPassword:08:03
hyperactivecrondioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy08:03
hyperactivecrond   mount: you must specify the filesystem type08:03
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hyperactivecrondsorry08:03
rukuartichyperactivecrond: http://pastebin.org08:03
hyperactivecrondi shoulde've known that :)08:03
rukuarticIts all good.08:03
ompaulthompa, that is why I am asking you ! is public    /msg ubotu is between you and the bot08:03
Ubunti_Kiompaul does that give me a choice to start with KDE?08:03
nalioththompa: ubotu has sent you priv msgs explaining all this08:04
ompaulthompa, the answers are identical just the opening word is differnt08:04
thompaompaul: thanks, i know08:04
kbrooksompaul: lengthy discussion -- #ubuntu-offtopic please08:04
vitriolGrooMan: dpkg-reconfigures xserver-xorg08:04
hyperactivecrondyou don't ! when u msg ubotu iirc08:04
Ubunti_Kiompaul and does it do something that maybe gives kate something to work?08:04
ompaulUbunti_Ki, that is something that GDM manages try it08:04
Ubunti_KiIll try, thanks08:04
vitriolwhat should i install to get flash on ubuntu amd64?08:04
argonsizewquit08:05
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hyperactivecrondargonsizew, try /quit :)08:05
argonsizewthx08:05
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ackthat drive is /dev/hdb1   ?08:05
ack*what drive08:05
ompaulkbrooks, good point:: thompa if you want to continue this go to #ubuntu-offtopic08:05
GrooManvitriol I tried that and I selected 1024x768 too, but I doesn't show up in the menu...08:05
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rukuarticWorking on building ndiswarpper-1.4rc4, but it says I need "source". Looks like thats 5 CSs of information. Anyway I could build it without the source?08:05
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qmanmananyone in here runnin an ATI X300, X600, etc in their laptop?08:06
rukuartic*CD08:06
QuinthiusGrooMan: did you restart X? log out, hit ctrl-alt-F1, login at console, run: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart08:06
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vitriolGrooMan: maybe the xserver doesn't think your card can support 1024x768 .... can't really help you there08:06
vitriolsomeone else can tho08:06
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kbrooksQuinthius: another way.... CTRL+ALT+BKSP08:06
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thompaompaul: had to ask cause people get jumpy as you can see08:07
Quinthiuskbrooks: not a very pleasant way. doesn't give programs a chanec to close on their own..08:07
kbrooksah08:07
rukuarticSwitching from windows... need help installing ndiswrapper so I can use Ubuntu to connect to the internet with a wireless card...08:07
ompaulthompa, go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to talk to me08:07
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WhyvasLTrukuartic, what chipset?08:07
rukuarticWhyvasLT: You mean the wireless card?08:08
WhyvasLTyes08:08
thompa#ubuntu-offtopic08:08
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rukuarticWhyvasLT: dang. I had it written down, but I verified and its compatable.08:08
WhyvasLTare you in linux now?08:08
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rukuarticWhyvasLT: Nope. Can't get internet on linux box because the card doesn't work.08:09
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schmiddywhere can i get the "GIF Video Codec"08:09
neoliminalIs there a way to create an encrypted partition under Ubuntu?08:09
WhyvasLTif you do lscpi in a shell it'll tell you the chipset08:09
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rukuarticWhyvasLT: That'll involve me rebooting and all that. Hold up, lemme look it up08:09
rukuarticWhyvasLT: If you know off hand, is Linksys WMP54G08:10
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rukuarticWhyvasLT: Broadcom, I think.08:10
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Jedricki try to install w32codecs but i got this msg, " Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:11
Jedrick is only available from another source08:11
Jedrick E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate08:11
ompaulJeromee, do not paste - use paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:11
WhyvasLTyeah08:11
darius___Anyone know if the Breezy (Universe) gnucash package is broke?  Install errors out on me08:11
WhyvasLTbroadcom08:11
huhmzjedrick: i tried asking this also but noone answered, i think they might have decided it was too non-free08:11
WhyvasLTyou don't have a way to use the wired card ?08:11
kbrooks!w32codecs08:12
ubotusomebody said w32codecs was a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)08:12
rukuarticWhyvasLT: No wired card, and that'd involve running a cable down three stories.08:12
kbrooks:)08:12
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huhmzjedrick: you can download the codecs manually from mplayerhq.hu and unpack them into /usr/lib/win3208:12
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kbrookshuhmz:  ^08:12
QuinthiusJedrick: get the codecs from mplayerhq.hu and extract to /usr/lib/win32 (make sure the files are directly under /usr/lib/win32, not a subdir)08:12
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kbrooksQuinthius: ^08:12
jpkeisalaWhen is official release date for Breezy?08:12
WhyvasLT14th i think08:13
[LethAL] 1308:13
kbrooksjpfarias: 4 days08:13
neoliminalIs it possible to create an encrypted partition in Ubuntu?08:13
[LethAL] Hence the effing topic08:13
Jedrickamm but i dont know how to extract a file into specific directory.. im a noob08:13
TiMiDo508:13
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schmiddyhi everyone08:13
Ubunti_KiIs the gdm more for beginners then kde?08:14
rukuarticWhyvasLT: I read over the FAQ, and it says that I need the Kernel Source. Where do I pick that up?08:14
TiMiDoUbunti_Ki gdm is just a display manager08:14
TiMiDoyou mean gnome08:14
TiMiDonot gdm08:14
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WhyvasLTrukuartic,  you need the kernel source headers if you're compiling it08:14
WhyvasLTbut im pretty sure it's already installed isn't it?08:14
Ubunti_KiOk and what does KDE stand for08:14
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TiMiDoUbunti_Ki kde or kdm?08:15
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schmiddywill linux always be virus and spyware immune like it is now?08:15
Ubunti_Kiboth =)08:15
Thordon2Hi, can anyone help, I just installed unbuntu and the colors and resilution are messed up, I can riughly make out the text, but what do I do to reduce the resolution etc, thanks08:15
WhyvasLTit isn't immune08:15
TiMiDowell kdm is kde display manager and kde i forgot08:15
naliothubotu: tell Thordon2 about fixres08:15
JedrickQuinthius:  how to extract a file into a specific directory.. e.g i have the file in /home/jedrick/downloads  and i want to extract it on /usr/lib/win32 whats the command?08:15
Ubunti_KiIs linux trojan immun?08:15
TiMiDoUbunti_Ki hell no08:15
WhyvasLTUbunti_Ki, nothing is immune08:15
rukuarticWhyvasLT: Where do I find the kernel source headers?08:15
naliothJedrick: did you get the w32codecs deb file?08:16
WhyvasLTrukuartic, are you sure it isn't installed already08:16
Mustard5rukuartic, synaptic?08:16
Ubunti_Kiwhats the best antivirus program for Linux?08:16
Mustard5search for linux headers08:16
WhyvasLThe doesn't have internet08:16
rukuarticWhyvasLT: I'm pretty sure, Mustard5: no internet connection.08:16
TiMiDoUbunti_Ki none nothing really there's 0 virus on Linux08:16
[LethAL] !linuxvirus08:16
ubotuThe short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=2108:16
WhyvasLTUbunti_Ki, you need to read up on google08:16
naliothUbunti_Ki: linux doesnt have viruses, but if you want to help your windows using grandmother, use clamav08:16
Jedrickyes08:16
TiMiDodo a research about Linux08:17
Mustard5ah sorry late to the conversation :D08:17
naliothJedrick: sudo dpkg -i file.deb  will install them for you08:17
Skidhelp your windows using grandmother?08:17
rukuarticWhyvasLT: Where's it found? /lib/modules/kernel/build?08:17
Ubunti_Kiis there a trojan remover then for linux?08:17
naliothSkid: join #ubuntu-offtopic and i'll explain08:17
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naliothUbunti_Ki: there are no known trojans or viruses for linux08:17
WhyvasLTrukuartic, you'd have to download them08:17
Jedrickok08:18
Skidk08:18
rukuarticWhyvasLT: Yes... where do I find them?08:18
WhyvasLTrukuartic, you need to find a way to wire your computer in for a minute08:18
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WhyvasLTbring it downstairs, use synaptics to install ndiswrapper08:18
rukuarticWhyvasLT: I can download in windows, burn onto a CD, transport that way.08:18
WhyvasLTmuch much easier08:18
Jedrickso this would look like this: $ sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb08:18
rukuarticWhyvasLT: No network card. Can't wire.08:18
[LethAL] Jedrick, sounds good08:19
naliothJedrick: yep08:19
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Ubunti_KiMANY KISSES FOR U PEOPLE, I DID INSTALL KDM AND KATE WORKS PERFECTLY!08:19
Jedrickok08:19
WhyvasLTahh08:19
WhyvasLTUbunti_Ki is swedish, that explains a lot08:20
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Ubunti_KiSo with linux/mozilla I can watch every porn sight i wish!?08:20
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rukuartic/ignore ubunti_ki08:20
[LethAL] Ubunti_Ki, if you're using KDE, I'd advise using opera instead08:20
rukuartic<-- Irc n00b. X_x;08:20
Ubunti_KiIm from sweden yeah, but im finish. A finish icebear.08:20
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TiMiDook feels good to be back08:20
TiMiDowith linux08:20
huhmzi assure everyone, he is not representative of my country08:20
kbrooks"08:21
kbrooks1)You have to OWN A LEGAL COPY of Windows, because these are proprietary codecs (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) " => http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7022708:21
Ubunti_KiTiMiDo, yes? :-)08:21
kbrooksis that true?08:21
TiMiDohuh?08:21
[LethAL] Probably08:21
Ubunti_Ki[LethAL] ,  why?08:21
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[LethAL] Because it uses QT whereas Firefox uses GTK08:22
[LethAL] Although you can get Firefox compiled wth QT, it's buggy08:22
Ubunti_KiTiMiDo,  nada. Just wondered why you are back with linux. Curious.08:22
Jedrickdude i got this error when i do type the command. dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb.torrent (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb.torrent08:22
TiMiDobecause at was doing some search on a FBSD box08:22
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thompa!esd08:23
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frank23[LethAL] : running gtk apps in kde affects nothing except the llok08:23
frank23look*08:23
[LethAL] Jedrick, you can't install torrents08:23
[LethAL] frank23, I know08:23
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nicolahello08:23
[LethAL] frank23, I'm just one for unification is GUIs08:23
[LethAL] in*08:24
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naliothJedrick: you need to run the torrent in your bittorrent program first08:24
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Jedrickoh ok08:24
naliothJedrick: http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/08:25
BoD_SWATI just deleted some files using emelfm08:25
frank23[LethAL] : and gtk-qt is pretty good! It did wonders for aMule for example08:25
BoD_SWATyet I have the feeling that the files are still there08:25
BoD_SWATbecause of my disk-usage08:25
Dalkusis breezy stable?08:25
Jedrickok im downloading it now08:25
neoliminalDoes Ubuntu support encrypted swap?08:25
TiMiDoneoliminal: yes08:25
frank23Dalkus: I'm using it right now08:25
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oxezDalkus: I'm using it for about 2 weeks, it's pretty stable08:25
neoliminalTiMiDo: how do I enable?08:25
naliothBoD_SWAT: does emel2fm have a "empty trash" ?08:25
Dalkusyeah, but is it stable frank23 ?:)08:26
frank23Dalkus: It is for me08:26
BoD_SWATnalioth, no. And my trash is empty :-|08:26
Dalkusthanks oxez. is it officially stable?08:26
[LethAL] No08:26
frank23Dalkus: no08:26
darius___Dalkus: I just installed Breezy RC on my HP compaq nc6000  Everything works08:26
oxezStill in developpement, it'll be officialy stable next week08:26
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Dalkusoh, great - thanks08:26
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thompahey how do i get to the off topic channel?08:27
Dalkuswhats the next release to be called?08:27
nalioththompa: /j #ubuntu-offtopic08:27
dariussI think it's Ugly Duckling?08:27
dariuss:)08:27
naliothDalkus: after breezy badger will be dapper drake08:27
Dalkushehe08:27
Jedrickhow to run terminal in shortcut keys?08:27
Dalkusthanks08:27
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thompathanks08:27
oxezDapper Drake?08:27
oxezsounds like Mandrake08:27
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[LethAL] lol08:28
WindowsBreakerG4Hey folks08:28
steve_hello hello08:28
TiMiDosteve_: hello08:28
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WindowsBreakerG4anyone know about ubuntu and sata on a laptop?08:28
steve_TiMiDo, :)08:28
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steve_anyone have any idea *when* in october breezy will be finalized?08:29
neoliminalTiMiDo:  How do I enable encrypted Swap?08:29
naliothsteve_: see /topic08:29
Skidsteve_: as per the topic, the 13th ?08:29
_willcooke_WindowsBreakerG4, Not exactly, but I'm using SATA on my desktop if that helps?08:29
Hexstreamhi, I'm looking for the system config file where block device mappings are made...08:29
enycwind: there shouldnt be a problem with that08:29
steve_omg, im an idiot.  sorry.   :)08:29
hwaara_how come you don't configure a root in ubuntu?08:29
hwaara_is everyone by default root too or what08:29
enycsteve: erm... apparently in about 5 days time08:29
naliothubotu: tell hwaara_ about root08:29
enychwaa: via 'sido'08:29
WindowsBreakerG4k thanks08:29
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enychwaa: err 'sudo'08:30
tylerdurdenhey how come fglrxconfig wont work? i just installed the ati drivers08:30
tylerdurdenit says command not found08:30
enychwaa: ubuntu makes the initially-installed-user able to run commands as root via /etc/sudoers08:30
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enychwaa: using the 'sudo' program08:30
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enychwaa: further users created are not normally able to run 'root' commands, unless you reconfigure sudo [/etc/sudoers] 08:31
oxeztylerdurden: close your current terminal and re-login, and also do it as root: sudo fglrxconfig08:31
tylerdurdenoh there we go08:31
kevogodtylerdurden, Are you on Hoary?08:31
enychwaa: root exists, just has no password set [not blank password, just NO password set] ...08:31
tylerdurdenbreezy08:31
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tylerdurdenit works with sudo fglrxconfig, but why doesnt it work without sudo? im root anyway08:31
enychwaa: there is nothing to stop you setting a root password should you want root ;-)08:31
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kevogodWell, you would probably be wise to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choosing the fglrx driver08:32
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kevogodWhen I used fglrxconfig on Breezy, it did not work.08:32
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pupilHow do I open a file browser with sudo permissions,. I have to copy a number of folders to another drive?08:32
[LethAL] pupil press alt-f2 and type gksudo nautilus08:33
naliothpupil: not advisable08:33
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pupilnalioth08:33
Hexstreamsudo nautilus I thinl08:33
pupilnalioth, ok,. who do I listen too?08:33
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kevogodgksudo nautilus08:33
pupil[LethAL] , ?08:33
[LethAL] pupil, both, but if there's no other way, do with caution08:33
naliothpupil: nautilus has a known bug of messin up your user space when run as root08:33
tylerdurdenDo you want to initialize xfree86-dga08:33
tylerdurdenyes or no and what does it do?08:34
kevogodtylerdurden, Are you running sudo fglrxconfig?08:34
tylerdurdenyup08:34
kevogodWell, you would probably be wise to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choosing the fglrx driver08:34
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kevogodinstead08:34
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tylerdurdennah08:34
kevogodfglrxconfig failed for me on Breezy08:34
jeff303does anyone know how to cancel a newsgroup post in Evolution?08:34
tylerdurdenit worked for me last time, i just forgot to do sudo this time08:34
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tylerdurdenso what does it do? xfree86-dga08:35
thom_!sound08:35
ubotuI guess sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary08:35
kevogodtylerdurden, Google it.08:35
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kevogodAnd then become more puzzled.08:35
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hwaara_enyc, ah thanks. so new users I create won't have to option of graphically sudoing ?08:36
hwaara_like if they go into some preferences. or are they also asked for a password?08:36
enychwaa: correct, unless you change /etc/sudoers08:36
[LethAL] hwaara_, graphics sudo is doing through gksudo or gnome-sudo08:36
titaniumi'm about to buy a 300gb seagate harddrive which is on sale. i plan on using it on my Ubuntu machine. the machine itself is an Optiplex GX1p (dell). what are the chances of me being able to actually use the drive entirely and not have it cap out at 127gb or possibly even less?08:36
enychwaa: well they can change user-level-preferences, just not any 'root' requiring thing08:36
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enyctita: linux will have no trouble with that, BUT08:36
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Jedrickwhen i start my pc and prompted which os to use, why is that i have 7 choices to choose from. linux kernel 2.6.12-9-686, recovery fail safe, linux kernel 2.6.12-9-686, recovery fail safe, linux kernel 2.6.12-9-686, recovery fail safe, and windows08:37
enyctita: if the bios or otherwise does, you need a /boot partition within the first 127gb ;-)08:37
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arturhi, skype on my ubuntu 5.10 shouts it need libstdc++5 and gcc3 , i can't find any solution on wiki & google, can anyone help ?08:37
Jedrickwhy is that i have 3 linux and 3 fail safe which are just the same08:37
Jedrickhow to remove those08:37
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SeveasJedrick, remove some kernels..08:37
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Jedrickhow?08:38
Ubunti_Kikde or gnome, which one suits better for a novice-user?08:38
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schmiddywill linux always be virus immune, no matter how popular it gets08:38
_willcooke_Ubunti_Ki, Gnome08:38
[LethAL] schmiddy, we don't know08:38
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schmiddy[LethAL] , is there any reason to use Windows XP over Ubuntu?08:39
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[LethAL] schmiddy, only if you play games and they don't work in Cedega or Wine08:39
lsuactiafnerxp has minesweeper08:39
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mjrschmiddy, probably not08:39
JedrickSeveas:  how to remove kernel?08:39
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mjrschmiddy, and maybe08:39
_willcooke_schmiddy, Generally, as soon as a security problem is found it gets fixed ASAP, so we could assume that as soon as a virus appears it would only be survive for a short while08:39
arturwho has skype working on ubuntu breeze ?08:39
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lsuactiafnerJedrick : dont remove a kernel08:40
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Jedrickwhen i start my pc and prompted which os to use, why is that i have 7 choices to choose from. linux kernel 2.6.12-9-686, recovery fail safe, linux kernel 2.6.12-9-686, recovery fail safe, linux kernel 2.6.12-9-686, recovery fail safe, and windows08:40
Monanyone uses the nvidia legacy module? i only have some .o files that are unusable with 2.6 kernels afaik08:40
RockyBurtwhats everyone's favourite application for design logo's (preferably vector-graphic-based) in linux?08:40
Jedrickwhy is that i have 3 linux and 3 fail safe which are just the same08:40
Ubunti_KiCan I put a picture up in gaim just like in Msn?08:40
[LethAL] Ubunti_Ki, yes, in accounts08:40
Jedricklsuactiafner: can you help out pls08:40
MonRockyBurt: probably inkscape08:40
diddehey guys! I'm having some diffculties to boot Ubuntu on my LG LW20 laptop. you think the "breezy" RC could perhaps work better on laptops? should I give it a shot?08:41
RockyBurtMon: hmm... i find inkscape very un-intuitive ... coming from a gimp background08:41
kevogoddidde, Breezy will be officially released on October 13th.08:41
diddethe installation went fine, but during boot the systems hangs while loading hotplug PCI...08:41
titaniumenyc: so i should look up the info on the bios for optiplex gx1p's then :) gonna check now08:41
kevogoddidde, So you might want to wait a few days if possible to get the final version.08:41
MonRockyBurt: well there's dia but i don't like that one. KDE probably has a tool too08:42
enyctita: well... its not worth worrying about that.... erm08:42
diddeheh, yeah my patience ran out a couple of days ago though. debian was IMPOSSIBLE to even install on the machine.08:42
enyctita: just upgrade the bios to latest version...08:42
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lsuactiafnerRockyBurt : the gimp will make logos for you08:42
enyctita: amnd make sure you install with a "/boot" partition at the beginning of the disk before all the rest of the partitions08:42
lsuactiafnerRockyBurt : the gimp is also veryvery good to make ggraphics08:42
RockyBurtlsuactiafner: yeah, but i'm aiming for something vector-based so that i can scale them better08:42
kevogodPhotoshop08:43
kevogod...08:43
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dariussdidde: won't hurt to give it a shot?08:43
diddeit's funny, LG makes great laptops but there's not a single good page describing the possible quirks etc. seems like nobody is running Linux on'em.08:43
diddeI'm starting to think XP will be my only viable option if RC1 won't work  :(08:43
Jedrickwhen i start my pc and prompted which os to use, why is that i have 7 choices to choose from. linux kernel 2.6.12-9-686, recovery fail safe, linux kernel 2.6.12-9-686, recovery fail safe, linux kernel 2.6.12-9-686, recovery fail safe, and windows. why is that i have 3 linux and 3 failesafe which are just the same08:43
hwaara_I heard LG are just rebranding other's hardware08:43
Jedrickhelp pls08:43
titaniumenyc: it's a really old computer (450mhz p3), do you think that with the latest bios it'd still be able to handle a 300gb hdd? and also about the /boot thing.. i'll only be using this as a mounted drive for storage, not the system drive.08:43
titaniumdo i still need to do something special?08:44
diddehwaara: yes and no. it's basically just intel stuff in the machine (Sonoma).08:44
kevogodJedrick, Well, you have duplicate entries for whatever reason. It shouldn't hurt anything.08:44
Jedrickso how can i remove them from the list?08:44
joetheoddtitanium: I'm not entirely sure, but I think handling drive size is totally BIOS-dependant and has nothing to do with the processor08:44
Ubunti_Ki[LethAL] , in account, can't find, I really looked. Maybe mine is too old?08:44
enyctita: well then its not relevant to bios08:44
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kevogodJedrick, If you are brave, you can edit them by going to /boot/grub/menu.lst08:45
enyctita: you might have a 32gb award bios bug however, which is a different matter08:45
[LethAL] Ubunti_Ki, right click on the msn account08:45
diddeBTW, is it possible to disable pci_hotplug from Grub?08:45
Jedrickok08:45
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enyctita: update the bios first ;-).. and you should be able to use the disk under linux no-trouble08:45
kevogodJedrick, You have to use sudo08:45
titaniumok. currently it's running fine with 2x 10gb hdds... gonna replace the non-system 10gb with the 300gb for storage. hehe08:45
MonRockyBurt: check this: http://lwn.net/Articles/84238/08:45
Jedrickok im on it now usng gedit.. am i doing right?08:46
titaniumwill i need to do anything special besides unmount the old 10gb, take it out, put in the 300gb, boot, mount new drive?08:46
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Ubunti_Ki[LethAL] , I really right click my account, don't show nada. I wanna put a picture of me so everyone can see it.08:46
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Monanyone uses the nvidia legacy module? i only have some .o files that are unusable with 2.6 kernels afaik08:48
[LethAL] Ubunti_Ki, in your account's properties08:48
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kevogodJedrick, Did you use sudo gedit to open the file?08:49
squid0hi all08:49
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Jedrickyes08:49
kevogodThen yes, you are on the right track.08:49
Jedrickand i have 9 on the list08:49
Ubunti_Ki[LethAL] , have looked, but with no luck. I use ubuntu-gnome.08:49
Jedricki thought i just have 708:49
Jedrickerrr08:49
squid0anyone know a good open-source /non-commercial partition editor that'll manage ntfs partitions?08:49
[LethAL] Ubunti_Ki, so do I08:49
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Ubunti_KiNothing in account properties, [LethAL] 08:50
Ubunti_Kiok08:50
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naliothsquid0: qtparted08:50
[LethAL] Look at http://gaim.sf.net08:50
[LethAL] Might help more08:50
diddeanyone know if is it possible to disable pci_hotplug from Grub?08:50
kevogodJedrick, From another terminal window, just to be safe, type "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak"08:50
kevogodThis will create a backup of the current file.08:50
Ubunti_KiI found it [LethAL] 08:50
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adlerhey, anybody got a good link to a comparison between reiserfs, ext2, ext3, etc?08:51
kevogodJedrick, Then, feel free to remove entries that appear to be duplicates.08:51
squid0nalioth: thanks, I tried it and it doesn't work properly. says an error occurs when I commit changes after telling it to partition an ntfs partition...08:51
SuseUXok, now openoffice segfaults after the update08:51
naliothsquid0: then i dont know what to advise08:51
naliothsquid0: run chkdsk in windows on the partition08:52
squid0nalioth: ok. thanks anyway :)08:52
SuseUXsomething seriously broken here!08:52
squid0nalioth: what is that?08:52
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kevogodadler, ReiserFS is a fast filesystem that is seen as not as reliable as ext3, which is the tried and true journalled file system.08:52
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RexKwonDoIdiot question:  I still see the blue Kubuntu startup image even though I have successfully switched back to the chocolately goodness of Ubuntu.  How do I bring back the brown??08:52
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Jedrickok i remove them already, what does cp stands for?08:52
kevogodadler, Although, I prefer ReiserFS since it is reasonably faster.08:52
naliothsquid0: in Windows, there is a utility to fix your windows file system. it's called chkdsk08:52
kevogodJedrick, copy08:53
oxezadler: I have read somewhere that ReiserFS handles more easily small files08:53
squid0nalioth: ok. does it enable you to resize a partition?08:53
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adlerkevogod, aha.  Well, I actually always used ext2 and reiserFS, but quite blindly.  I just don't know the pros and cons of each one08:53
owen_hey08:53
adleroxez, uhum08:53
kevogodadler, ext2 is ancient, use ext308:53
naliothsquid0: if your partition is screwed, qtparted won't work on it08:53
owen_can someone help me with a linux problem I have?08:53
Jedrickok thnx08:53
kevogodadler, ext3 is essentially ext2 journalled.08:54
Ubunti_Kidoes gaim come with KDE?08:54
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adlerkevogod, I hope the Ubuntu install lets me choose. I'm a Debian user actually, but I have quite a laptop here =) I don't have much time to configure things, so I hope Ubuntu will do the job08:54
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squid0nalioth: oh, i see. no, i don't think the problem is the partition. i think it's qtparted. the partition is fine08:54
kevogodUbunti_Ki, Kopete comes with KDE.08:54
kevogodadler, I am using ReiserFS right now on 8 partitions.08:54
Ubunti_KiIs as Gaim? not as good? ;)08:54
kevogodUbunti_Ki, I prefer Gaim.08:54
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test34Anyone know how to stop firefox 1.5 asking you to Clear Private Data on startup ?08:55
kevogodUbunti_Ki, Although I prefer GNOME.08:55
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Ubunti_Ki^_^ ok kevogod08:55
owen_UGHHH!! I have these super annoying lines flashing up on my screen in ubuntu :( Can anyone help me?08:55
adlerkev-test, I am using reiserFS too  (for no particular reason, though)08:55
lsuactiafneroxez : depends on the inode size of the filesystem08:55
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naliothubotu: tell owen_ about fixres08:55
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lsuactiafneroxez : the defaults work well enough for a desktop.08:55
steve_is there a way to do "apt-get dist-upgrade" in synaptic pkg manager?08:55
kevogodadler, Reiser4 is in the Linux kernel, I will use that.08:55
durthas anyone got gdkxft to work successfully?08:55
deFryskkevogod, smart upgrade08:56
pupildo you guys know of any really good screensavers?08:56
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deFryskpupil, they are already installed08:56
kevogod+When08:56
steve_pupil, what's wrong with the pre-installed ones?08:56
pupildeFrysk, indeed08:56
oxezlsuactiafner: ok08:56
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Jedrickey about the w32codecs i got it now, how to install it?08:57
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RexKwonDoIdiot question:  I still see the blue Kubuntu startup during initial boot even though I have successfully switched back to the chocolately goodness of Ubuntu.  How do I bring back the brown??08:57
hoslerany good linux mmoprgs?08:57
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kevogodJedrick, Are you installing it through Synaptic?08:57
pupilI was only wondering08:57
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naliothJedrick: sudo dpkg -i file.deb08:57
kevogodJedrick, Or did you download a .deb package?08:57
adlerkevogod, oha. Thanks for the infos08:57
pupilsteve_, I am looking through them now08:57
Jedrickno08:57
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Jedrickyes its a deb08:57
Jedricki download it from bittorrent08:57
deFryskRexKwonDo, you mean reverting back to gdm ?08:57
RexKwonDowell, I did that08:57
hwaara_the brownness is awful08:58
deFryskRexKwonDo, did you uninstall kdm ?08:58
hortianhey folks, I'm having some trouble getting GLX to work, if I run glxgears it says: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".08:58
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hwaara_there should be other optional colors :P08:58
RexKwonDobut the boot progress screen is still Kubuntu-ed08:58
kevogodJedrick, Well... I don't know where you got this package, from from the terminal type sudo dpkg --install w32codecs.deb08:58
deFryskRexKwonDo, did you uninstall kdm ?08:58
hortianany idea what I could do?08:58
RexKwonDobrown is down, baby08:58
RexKwonDoyes08:58
RexKwonDoeven the configs08:58
Jedrickok08:58
Dr_Willisthe boot process screen is not gdm or kdm. thats the splashscreen stuff i think08:58
deFryskwel I do not know honestly08:58
Drauconq time08:59
RexKwonDoyeah, things point that way, Dr_Willis, but I'm still stymied08:59
Dr_Willisif you are refering to the initial  logo/progressbar with the messatges at the bottom.08:59
RexKwonDoyes08:59
Dr_WillisRexKwonDo,  of course I just edit the grub menu items to NOT give that ugly splash screen any way :P08:59
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deFryskDr_Willis, well I think the splash does not look bad at all09:00
RexKwonDoI wouldn't mind a total lack of progress indications09:00
Jedrickkevogod:  dude i got this error. " dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing:  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb09:00
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Dr_Williskernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash09:00
Dr_Willis  (change splash to nosplash)09:00
Dr_Willisnot sure what quiet does.09:00
Dr_Willis:P09:00
kevogodJedrick, Make sure you are in the right directory.09:00
Jedrickok09:00
RexKwonDohmm, okay09:00
deFryskDr_Willis, easyer to remove the word splash ;)09:00
Jedrickok now i got it09:01
Jedrickthnx man09:01
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Dr_Willisof course ive found some of the updates tend to replace the entry back to the way it was09:01
kevogodJedrick, From the terminal, if you hit tab it will autocomplete entries.09:01
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Dr_Willisso the BEST way i thinkis to edit somthign earlier in the file09:01
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Jedrickwhat you mean?09:01
kevogodJedrick, So you don't have to type the entire name out by hand.09:01
kevogodJedrick, Type a few letters of the file and then hit tab.09:02
lampshadehey guys, if I install Breezy and then the official release comes out, will I have to change my apt sources or will I just need to do an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?09:02
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Jedrickkool09:02
Jedrickwait i try09:02
kevogodJedrick, It works for directories as well.09:02
Dr_Willis# nonaltoptions=quiet nosplash09:02
deFryskJedrick, tabbutton invoces autocomplete09:02
Jedrickammm its not working for me09:03
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kevogodJedrick, You have to be in the directory the file is in.09:03
deFrysklampshade, reade the upgradenotes09:03
Jedrickyes im in the directory09:03
deFrysklampshade, see /topic09:03
Jedrickwhen i hit the tab it just beep09:03
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Jedrickok its working now09:04
kevogodJedrick, It can be a timesaver, just wanted to let you know that.09:04
Jedrickwhats the shortcut keys to run terminal09:04
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Jedrickthnx man09:04
tencohi! what are the apt sources for breezy?09:04
deFryskJedrick, also workt in xchat for autocompleting nicks09:04
calebim running beagle on breezy.  xchat logs aren't being indexed.  is this a known problem?09:05
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Jedrickkool09:05
durtso no one here uses gdkxft?09:05
kevogodOK back09:05
Jedrickwhats the shortcut keys to run terminal?09:05
naliothubotu: tell tenco about upgrade2breezy09:05
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arturhas anyone skype running on 5.10 ?09:06
umaxhy09:07
hwaara_is "Add applications..." = Synaptic?09:07
oxezit's gnome-app-install09:08
oxeziirc09:08
carlsonartur, i got it running on 5.0409:08
deFryskJedrick, xtrl-alt f209:08
kevogodJedrick, I don't know if there is one. Alt + F2 opens the run dialog.09:08
lampshadehwaara_:  Try it and see if it comes up with a thing that says synaptics though I think it is09:08
naliothhwaara_: a simple form of synapti, yes09:08
deFryskjedediah_, ctrl-alt-f7 to return09:08
deFryskJedrick, I mean09:08
arturcarlson, where do u downloaded it ?09:09
Jedrickis it ctrl+alt+f2?09:09
carlsonartur, i downloaded the debian version from skype website09:09
arturcarlson, on 5,10 there is libstdc++ version 609:09
deFrysk!skype09:09
uboturumour has it, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free09:09
hwaara_nalioth, how do I open synaptic then ?09:10
carlsonartur, so, skype isnt running because of libstdc++ vesion?09:10
arturand skype wants libstdc++ version 509:10
arturyes09:10
carlsonoh ok ok.... so i cant help you.... i got it running here on 5.04 but i did a lot of trickys to make the sound wor09:10
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StylusEaterok...can anyone help with ndiswrapper?09:11
tenconalioth: thanks!09:11
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StylusEaterError: unrecognized opcode: 'movl' ????09:11
naliothubotu: tell StylusEater about ndiswrapper09:11
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arturi've tried to install libstdc++ v.5  from apt-get 5.10 repo and it cannot be installed coz of gcc-3.3 unavaibility09:11
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triggerhi every one09:12
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pupilHow do I add a resolution setting ?09:12
CoutsosDoes anybody know what package in apt has the xdbe "double buffering extension"?09:12
pupilwhat do I edit?09:12
pupilI need to add 1600 x 120009:13
naliothpupil: xorg.conf and have fun09:13
pupillol09:13
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pupil nalioth, is it in /etc/xorg.conf?09:13
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k0st4hi09:14
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brthiho09:14
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lampshadehwaara_:  You can get to it via system menu  goto System >> Administration >> Synaptic Package Manager09:15
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brtis there a possibility to make the "Disks Manager" or "Gparted" recognise my LVM partitions?09:15
lampshadepupil:  It might be /etc/X11/xorg.conf I can't remember but I think it iis theer09:15
naliothubotu: tell pupil about fixres09:16
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LasseLwhere do the "autoreconf" command live?09:16
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LasseLI am trying to build gtkpod from cvs09:17
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StylusEaternalioth: I can't find the ndiswrapper-utils package in the restricted repository...09:17
IRCMonkey_i have a quick question= i have a 80 GB hd with a 5GB partition. i went into setup (ubuntu) and selected the 5Gb partition to be my ubuntu partition. if i go along with the partitioning, will it format my WHOLE 80GB's or only the 5GB partition?09:17
lampshadeif we get like 200 more in here we can beat #debian... GO CALL YOUR FRIENDS09:17
StylusEaterlampshade: it's not about "beating" debian09:18
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lampshadebut it is about having some silly fun by seeing who can have more in a channel09:18
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lampshadewe are in second right now as I see from a /list09:18
IRCMonkey_anyone?09:19
LasseLI am following this guide, trying to build gtkpod from cvs. http://www.ubuntuusers.de/wiki/multimedia:ipod_mit_linux_verwenden:gtkpod_installieren, but I get an error that it can't find autoreconf09:19
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naliothIRCMonkey_: if it's free space, choose the free space option09:20
hwaara_is the "remote desktop" function in Windows XP compatible with ubuntu/linux?09:20
hwaara_can they connect  to each other?09:20
IRCMonkey_ok so ubuntu will install there?09:20
Blejdfistyou can connect to WinXP from Ubuntu, but not vice versa09:21
Blejdfistaltough you can use VNC from XP to Ubuntu09:21
Blejdfistor NX09:21
Blejdfisti would recommend NX since it's alot faster than VNC09:21
naliothIRCMonkey_: if you tell it to use the free space, yes09:21
hwaara_Blejdfist, right, I guessed you can use VNC. How do I connect from ubuntu to xp?09:21
StrogNX is great09:21
hwaara_do I send an invitation file and ubuntu will magically recognize it?09:21
stperehwaara_, you can simply access it using your applications menu09:22
stpereTerminal Server Client09:22
stperein Internet09:22
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brtIRCMonkey_: the install process should tell you that it is going to format your (5GB) Partition not the whole disk if you do it right, read carefully and you won't get wrong...09:22
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antdoes anyone here know java swing?09:23
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kbrooksant: ask09:23
silasjhi all09:23
lampshadeant:  Might wanna try #java if it is about actual coding and not like installing java to Ubuntu  they are pretty good about questions in there09:23
calamariant: sure09:23
antok09:24
hwaara_stpere, which protocol? RDP?09:24
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antill try that09:24
stperehwaara_, yes09:24
olivierhi all09:24
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antbut ill ask here first, in case anyone knows.09:24
IRCMonkey_i get up to the WARNING page that says that all removed partitions will be formatted (?)  including the one that i selected (5GB)09:24
pupilCan I use synaptic to install java runtime environment?09:24
Blejdfisthwaara_: rdesktop09:24
oliviercan anybody tell me why my apt not works ? please :-)09:24
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Blejdfisthwaara_: there is a Terminal Server Client09:25
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hwaara_Blejdfist, right, that's what I'm using09:25
naliothubotu: tell pupil about javadeb09:25
Blejdfisthwaara_: there is even a panel applet for it that i recommend09:25
hwaara_just trying to understand how to set it up09:25
hwaara_oh?09:25
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txushi09:25
txushey09:25
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Insectahi09:26
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ciushello, would there be any g++ experts about that might explain an error to me?09:26
naliothcius: ask your ??09:26
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pupilI get faster speeds with linux than I do on a windows machine?09:27
antcalamari:  I have created my own class extending from JButton with its own internal class action listener.  I want to refresh the root contentpane or create a new one or whatever when the button is pressed.  I try getToplevelAncestor().removeAll() in the button class.  This just makes the button freeze.  Im thinking that this is happening because the button is in the content pane09:27
ciusnalioth, its telling me there's an undefined reference to one of my functions in my main function.  What exactly does this mean?09:27
pupilnalioth, I have noticed that I get faster download speeds on a linux box than on windows,. is that just me?09:27
silasjhey guys... i'm really have problems to install TclMagick... please, see:09:27
silasjhttp://pastebin.com/38737509:27
olivierwhich port apt uses to get packages ?09:27
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calamariant: sorry, I don't know.. never extended JButton before09:28
oxezWoa, just installed windows xp with vmware, and it runs just a bit slower than Windows alone. I feel reboot command is deprecated for me :p09:28
IRCMonkey_if i choose " do nothing" to the larger partition, will it really not format it? (stupid question)09:28
antcalamari: ok09:28
calamariant: you can add an actionlistener to the button to listen for clicks09:28
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pupilnalioth, once I have downloaded the deb, how do I make install?09:28
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naliothpupil: sudo dpkg -i file.deb09:29
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pupilnalioth, thanks09:29
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joe_anyone know how to install codecs?09:30
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tucozjoe_: hoary?09:30
joe_yea09:30
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IRCMonkey_if i choose " do nothing" to the larger partition, will it really not format it? (stupid question)09:30
ardyahi folks09:31
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tucozcheck out www.ubuntuguide.org09:31
ProN00bcan anyone tell me how to check with what filesystem my usbdrive (mp3 player) is mounted, and how i can unmount remount it manually ?09:31
kevogod!ubuntuguide09:31
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.09:31
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oxez!faq09:31
ardyadoes ubuntu have command line tools for system configuration, and if so, what?09:31
ubotufaq is probably The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/09:31
tucozsorry joe_ didn't know that09:31
naliothtucoz: please dont recommend ubuntuguide09:31
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tucoznalioth: sorry, I wasn't aware of that09:32
kevogod!tell joe_ about w32codecs09:32
Crackezhello everyone09:32
CrackezI've just installed 5.10 and ran into an issue w/ lilo09:32
Crackezi checked the forums, and googled, but nothing seems to have a good answer for this problem.09:33
kevogodMy solution, use GRUB... heh09:33
durtlilo?09:33
limaunionhi, I'm going to begin the upgrade to Breezy, should I close gnome before doing apt-get dist-upgrade ? or can it be started from the X11 environment ?09:33
Crackezgrub and lvm don't get along09:33
tucozany emacs users here that had issues with fonts when installing breezy?09:33
Skidlimaunion: no, its fine09:33
hwaara_stpere, so in the Computer field do I put the computer name?09:33
lorenzodCrackez, hmm...09:33
Crackezor so i have read,09:33
naliothlimaunion: no special efforts are necessary09:33
Skidafter you reboot you'll notices teh changes to gnome09:33
Skidor restart it09:33
Skid(x)09:33
naliothlimaunion: you can continue using your box in a normal fashion09:33
hwaara_stpere, User name is the user name I use on the windows compuiter or what09:34
Crackezand lilo was what the installer gave me09:34
limaunionSkid: ok, thanks.09:34
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Crackezthis all started as i wonder if it is possible to have / on lvm, and no /boot09:34
tucozI had to a hard time getting emacs to work after I installed breezy09:34
Crackezturns out it booted fine the first time09:34
Crackezi saw that there were patches, so i installed them09:34
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stperehwaara_, sorry I was away09:35
tucozIt ran, but it couldn't find the fonts.09:35
limaunionnalioth: ok, I still don't get it, how can the upgrade be performed and while there're tons of applications running..., but will start now from gnome. thanks09:35
kevogodjoe_, You get that?09:35
Crackezand now if i run lilo -t, i get: Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure.09:35
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naliothlimaunion: linux is not windows. it is designed to be productive all the time09:35
scandiumok, I admit I am too lazy to search bugzilla for this, but did anyone notice that debian (and the package is also in ubuntu main) has a site for erotic underwear models in one of its package descriptions? lol09:35
stperehwaara_, if your DNS is configured, you can type the hostname of your XP machine09:35
Crackezand: Name change: '/dev/dm-0' -> '/dev/dm'09:35
hwaara_stpere, I have just connected two computers to a router09:36
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naliothscandium: excuse me?09:36
scandiumnalioth, gstreamer0.8-mikmod09:36
scandiumvisit the website the package has in its description ;)09:36
hwaara_stpere, and can see the windows computer on the network (samba), and also its name09:36
stperehwaara_, perfect, use that name09:36
Dreamgliderhow do i change premission on a folder and all sub folders to 755 ?09:36
SkidDreamglider: chown -R 755 /path/to/toplevel/dir09:37
tarzeau!folder09:37
ubotutarzeau: Are you smoking crack?09:37
Mercutiowhats the address for the bugzilla?09:37
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DreamgliderSkid, thanks09:37
tarzeauDreamglider: what about find -type d ?09:37
limaunionnalioth: yeah, incredible...09:37
naliothscandium: cool, while you're discussing skin, install "ubuntu-calendar"09:37
durtthats very interesting scandium... :)09:37
SkidDreamglider: becareful if doing it with root mind09:37
stperehwaara_, and yes, username is the username on your xp box09:37
ardyaso I completed the Breezy install, rebooted into single user mode, ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, thats finished....whats the specific runlevel that disables the display manager at boot?09:38
Dreamgliderit's just for a dir vith pic's09:38
Dreamgliderwith09:38
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CrackezDreamglider, find /path -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;09:38
scandiumnalioth, ok, installing =)09:38
limaunioni mean,  unbelievable09:38
hwaara_stpere, and all the fields (including domain) are required? I don't know the domain nor client hostname09:38
stperehwaara_, I did connect to win2k3 server terminal server without filling in those fields09:39
stpereit should work09:39
CrackezDreamglider, if you use -R, it will change all files and folders below the top-level dir09:40
tucoz!tell tucoz about w32codecs09:40
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Crackezhas anyone else had the problem with /proc/partitions not matching /dev ?09:40
spiralhmmm, get a problem with eclipse under breezy...09:40
spiralI can't use it anymore :-/09:40
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spiralam I the only one ?09:40
j0hnny-ihello09:40
j0hnny-iwhen will next ubuntu come out ?09:41
Trashcananyone know the path to apt-get's cache off the top of their head?09:41
spiralj0hnny-i: /topic09:41
arcanistheroguehey, I have some questions about gaming on Hoary Hedgehog.  I play all my games in a Failsafe terminal, but usually when I play games like UT2004 or CS:S through Cedega my copmuter just freezes.  I have an nvidia 6600 graphics card, what could be causing these freezes?09:41
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RockyBurtanyone have a suggestion on a modern linux-capable webcam ?09:41
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hwaara_stpere, still same error: "unable to resolve host".09:42
hwaara_hmm09:42
doogluscan I get xine to use OSS instead of ALSA?  I can't find the option anywhere09:42
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stperehwaara_, if you know the ip address, use it instead the hostname09:42
pupilthat gdesklet thing is cool09:42
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DreamgliderSkid, that command messed up the pic's and videos they are all 0 bytes!09:42
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Dreamglideri have backup tho :)09:43
naliothpupil: try superkaramba and adesklets, also09:43
Skidshouldn't have, unless they were 0 bytes before09:43
j0hnny-ispiral, thanx you09:43
Skidor you did something wrong..09:43
pupilapt-get or is it already on there?09:43
ProN00bcan anyone tell me how to check with what filesystem my usbdrive (mp3 player) is mounted, and how i can unmount remount it manually ?09:43
CrackezDreamglider: man find09:43
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dooglussomeone, please?09:44
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arcanistheroguedooglus: try man xine then see if there are any command line switches09:45
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lsuactiafnerarcanistherogue : ut2004 has native linux binaries, you dont need Cedega09:45
dooglusarcanistherogue: "man xine" comes up behind the movie window and I can't see it09:45
lsuactiafneroh09:45
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lsuactiafnerarcanistherogue : maybe you're over heating?09:45
hwaara_stpere, haha this is weird. now I entered the IP address of the other computer into the "Computer" textfield, tried to connect, and a black screen just opened and closed immediately.09:45
arcanistheroguelsuactiafner: Perhaps.  I am running it on linux, too09:45
hwaara_stpere, leaving me at the connection window once again.09:45
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stperehwaara_, are you sure the terminal server is active on the winxp end?09:46
arcanistheroguelsuactiafner: everytime I ask about it on a forum like GameFAQs or the ubuntu forums i never get a response, I have had this problem since July.09:46
Dreamglideri dont need to find any folder just change the premissions09:46
Lickeris there an apt-get command to get Java?09:46
tucozDreamglider, I might be stupid, but isn't it easier to run chmod -R 755 <dir>09:46
arcanistheroguedooglus: i dont know then... try googling it?09:46
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johhnyIs it possible to use sed to find a text pattern and have it display that line + the line below it?09:47
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Dreamglidertucoz, i just did and it destroyed all the 10gb's !09:47
LasseLI am looking for a program that can help me clean out unneeded packages before I upgrade to breezy09:47
_jasonDreamglider:  change the permissions to what?09:47
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nawI have used ndiswrapper successfully to load the windows driver for my desktop wireless LAN.  I am now trying to load a driver for my laptop but every driver I try says invalid driver in ndiswrapper.  Any suggestions?09:47
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Mercutio150ok so can anyone help with ati drivers?09:47
arcanistherogueLicker: the package was JRSE something, but last time I checked it was broken.  I just found an .rpm file then used "alien" to convert it to .deb09:47
Dreamglider755 on all files09:47
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hwaara_stpere, well, I have checked the option "Allow other computers to control this computer" in the System control panel. is that sufficient?=09:47
_jasonall files in a directory?09:47
adler!!! I just installed ubuntu and I realize it didn't ask for a new root password!!! omg!!!! Help!09:47
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, adler09:47
tucozDreamglider, what? that should just change the permission09:47
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_jasontry: chmod 755 *09:48
Lickerarcanistherogue: Alien?09:48
Lickerarcanistherogue: Linkage?09:48
vengeful_hehehe adler09:48
LasseLadler, sudo -s gives you root09:48
arcanistherogueLicker: its a command line tool09:48
vengeful_welcome to sudo09:48
johhnyadler: Root is disabled in ubuntu. It uses sudo to manage root access09:48
arcanistherogueLicker: do man alien to get some more info ;)09:48
adlerI couldn't set any user neither!!!!09:48
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Mercutio150I've tried searching the forums but I can't find anything09:48
Dreamglidertucoz, all files were 0bytes after the command !09:48
johhnyadler: sudo command will ask you for your user password09:48
tucozweird09:48
_jasonDreamglider:  chmod 755 * work?09:49
nawAny suggestions?09:49
johhnyadler: type it in, and you are root. sudo -s for those that insist on a root shell09:49
adlerhow can one create a user after installing?  It couldn't successfully create any user!!09:49
adlerI can't open any shell :(09:49
Mercutio150or is there another channel to go for help in?09:49
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johhnyadler: System --> Administration --> Users and Groups09:49
pupilnalioth, what file is used to store the theme for xchat,.. cause I want to try making it tranparent,. among other things,. how would I go about doing this?09:49
Lickerarcanistherogue: ok thanx man09:50
adlerjohhny, the thing is that  I have a plain shell login09:50
adlerreally strange09:50
_jasonMercutio:  your best bet is probably to post on the forums09:50
johhnyadler: And Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal09:50
LasseLMercutio150, there is also the wiki09:50
naliothpupil: in your home directory are many invisible files and folders09:50
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LasseL!ati09:50
ubotuhmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx09:50
johhnyadler: ok, are you at a prompt?09:50
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adlerjohhny, I got "09:50
stperehwaara_, hmmm.. yeah, should be ok09:50
naliothpupil: enable your nautilus to see them and have fun with all your settings09:50
pupilpupil09:50
adlerjohhny, "satellite login: "09:50
Mercutio150I tired seaching the wiki to, but it wont give me anything for ati09:50
aenthow do you get stdio.h and all the other standard C header files in ubuntu?09:50
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pupilnalioth, ok09:50
tucozDreamglider, I just ran chmod -R 755 on a dir, and it worked as expected09:50
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Dr_Willisthers several pages of ati discussion in the ubuntu forums09:50
stperehwaara_, try to remove the username and the password from the Terminal service client window09:50
Mercutio150ty ubotu09:50
johhnyadler: ok, login as the user you created during the install. Not root, the user you created09:50
stperehwaara_, it should direct you to the login screen09:51
naliothaent: install "build-essential"09:51
Mercutio150I know I just cant find them09:51
DragnovichHello every body!!09:51
Dr_Willisi followed some ati-wiki-binary driver howto and installed them on my laptop in a few min.09:51
adlerjohhny, here is the funny thing!!! I tried to set it up but it would go on a strange loop! No user could be finally created... :(09:51
darkmanhi there i try to compile something and he says "checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables09:51
darkman", does somebody knows which -dev is absent?09:51
Dr_Willistry "!binary" and see if the bot tells ya somthing09:51
dooglusarcanistherogue: thanks.  xine man page to me to xine --help which told me to "xine -A oss", which worked...09:51
Dreamglidertucoz, well it caused all my files to go 0bytes.! ofcourse i have backup :)09:51
tucozMercutio150, what is the problem09:51
Mercutio150ok the ati is for hoary, is that no good for breezy09:51
joe_kevogod, no missed the link could you give it to me again?09:51
DragnovichDo you know how can I change the path when a an user LOGIN in to the FTP server??09:51
Lickerarcanistherogue: there isnt a MAN for alien its saying09:51
Mercutio150tucoz: I need to compile drivers for my ati radeon 700009:52
johhnyadler: reboot the computer and once you get to the grub menu, hit e on the kernel you want to boot09:52
kevogod!tell joe_ about w32codecs09:52
tucozMercutio150, I installed the ati drivers for breezy09:52
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adlerjohhny, ok09:52
wrabbit01hey all... not much of a tech question but a query nonetheless.  I'm heading down to the local computer swapmeet tommorow and am gonna try and hunt down a REALLY low spec laptop. My guess is that the cheapest I'd be able to find is at around 300 or so.  Any ideas about the minumum and ideal specs for running ubuntu with a few development proggies?09:52
aentthanks09:52
kevogodjoe_, ubotu should have messaged you09:52
joe_ty09:52
nalioth!good bot09:52
ubotuthanks nalioth :)09:52
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adlerjohhny,  ok got a menu09:52
wrabbit01Would anything above a 486 suffice?09:52
Dr_Williswrabbit01,  i was able to buy a NEW laptop for $50009:52
johhnyhit e, and then put init=/bin/bash at the very end09:52
Dr_Williswrabbit01,  spending $300 on a low end used one.. is a bit of a waste09:52
tucozMercutio150, ah, you got an old one. Sorry, cant help you.09:52
adlerjohhny, done09:53
wrabbit01Dr_Willis: Might not be used.  Alot of these stalls are ex retail outlets getting rid of stock09:53
johhnyadler: After you add that to the end, hit b to boot it09:53
wrabbit01Dr_Willis: What did you find for 500?09:53
dooglusDragnovich: it depends what FTP server you're using09:53
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Mercutio150damn, I don't need the crazy high speed ones,09:53
Dr_Williswrabbit01,   compaq V231109:53
dooglusDragnovich: read the docs for your FTP server09:53
Mercutio150guess I'll have to go get one now09:53
adlerjohhny, *booting*09:53
Dr_Williswrabbit01,  its fairly decent. I got it at just right time for the rebates overlapped :P09:53
hwaara_stpere, still the same thing when I remove user/pass. a black screen/window pops up but closes immediately09:54
nawAny nidswrapper users here?09:54
naliothwrabbit01: they sell NEW laptops for $499 here all the time09:54
johhnyadler: Once you boot into a root shell, type: mount -a to mount all filesystems09:54
Dr_Willisive seen many other laptops for $550-600  range09:54
paulproteus|laptjohhny: I agree, #debian is full of losers.09:54
wrabbit01here?09:54
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j0hnny-iahah09:54
johhnypaulproteus: You are in debian? XD09:54
Dr_Willislol09:54
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adlerjohhny, strange, it shows a regular "login: " again :(09:54
j0hnny-iubuntu is an anciant african word that means "i cannot install gentoo"09:54
naliothwrabbit01: do you live in the US?09:54
wrabbit01nalioth: Nope.. I'm in the land of OZ.  Australia09:55
johhnyadler: Is it important that you save the data on this machine?09:55
HiddenFlywhen is breezy going to be released?09:55
adlerjohhny, suggesting reinstall? =)09:55
hwaara_stpere, aaah my firewall!09:55
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naliothwrabbit01: ah. www.outpost.com has retail stores called "Frys Electronics". the retail stores sell those lappys for $499usd09:55
wrabbit01Either way... I've seen some cheap/low spec notebooks on ebay and if I could get something at around 1ghz, it should be ok09:55
naliothHiddenFly: see /topic09:55
johhnyadler: Well that would work unless /etc/passwd was corrupt or something pam / login related is wrong09:55
wrabbit01I'll check it out nalioth, thanks09:55
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robertjcan someone tracking breezy please test to see if they can save to a gnome vfs share with bluefish?09:56
adlerjohhny, well, actually I'm a Debian user and thought Ubuntu would solve my hardware-detecting problems on my laptop =(   I guess I'll have to lose some hours anyhow09:56
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johhnyadler: If there is nothing important, reinstall with breezy09:56
naliothwrabbit01: look for "Great Quality" brand (those are the ones that are sold)09:56
stperehwaara_, yep, I should have think of that09:56
HiddenFlynalioth: hehe lol thx, it was way too close for my eyes :D09:56
wrabbit01nalioth: Any specifics?09:56
hwaara_stpere, oh, still same thing. hmmm.09:56
johhnyadler: My laptop supports hibernate / suspend, and all of the multimedia keys by default in breezy rc109:56
naliothwrabbit01: specifics on what?09:56
johhnyadler: It is mostly stable and will be out officially on the 13th. You should use that09:57
wrabbit01nalioth: I'm only wanting to do a little web/software coding and web browsing on the lappy.  It won't be used for much else. That's what the desktop is for09:57
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adlerI just downloaded today the ISO image.  It is "breezy badger"09:57
wrabbit01nalioth: I meant, any specific brand09:57
Kalidarnwondering if anyone else has experienced saving in OpenOffice.org2 as  Microsoft Office 2003 XML documents fails ie "Error saving the document <Docname>: Write Error. The file could not be written." ahh and the help is also broken.09:57
naliothwrabbit01: just pointing out that laptops have broken the >$500usd mark09:57
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adlerjohhny, I just downloaded today the ISO image.  It is "breezy badger"09:57
Kalidarndid it with 5.10 Preview, and now 5.10 RC09:58
naliothwrabbit01: frys sells "Great Quality" laptops for $499 USD09:58
factotumhey all Im looking through the wiki on how to upgrade to warty from hoary but cant seem to find it, anyone have a direct link?09:58
factotumsomeone gave it to me last night, but forgot to mark it09:58
wrabbit01nalioth: looking through that site now, cheers09:58
KalidarnFackamato: check your logs09:58
_jasonfactotum:  do you mean breezy?09:59
Dreamgliderwhat's the diffrence between 5.10 Preview and 5.10 RC ?09:59
Kalidarnooops... factotum: check your logs09:59
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factotumcrap, meant hoary to breezy09:59
factotumlol09:59
KalidarnDreamglider: updated packages09:59
Kalidarnthats about it09:59
_jason!breezy09:59
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade09:59
LasseLAny war stories on upgrading to breezy? Will I loose my settings and get defaults instead?09:59
Lickerwhats the command tologin as root?  su - or is it something diff?09:59
johhnyadler: Download it from here: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/10:00
funkyHatDreamglider, RC is more recent than preview10:00
wrabbit01nalioth: Didn't know that GQ was an actual brand. Are they any good?  Never heard of em10:00
thenukeLicker: su - works10:00
Kalidarnbut i am interested if anyone here would like to try to save a XML document for me (fails on a clean fresh non-screwed with install)10:00
wrabbit01nalioth: but then again, I know nothing about notebooks10:00
Lickerwell im using breezy and its not workin10:00
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CrackezLicker, sudo su -10:00
thenukeLicker: sudo su is common way to do it too10:00
johhnyadler: that is release canidate 1 and is perfectly stable for the 3 machines I put it on and have updated10:00
paulproteus|laptLicker: sudo su -10:00
Lickerkk10:00
naliothwrabbit01: only 5 companies in china make laptops. do the math10:00
_jasonKalidarn:  link?10:00
adlerjohhny, this is actually where I got it from10:00
MrShifty|lappydoes anyone have a suggestion on a USB wifi solution for Hoary PPC? (other than a Netgear ma11)10:00
dooglusLasseL: mostly you'll keep your settings.  It keeps forgetting that I don't want all the different english locales generated, but otherwise seems OK10:00
adlerI'll reinstall now10:00
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Lickerok Sudo works in breezy no su -10:00
Licker:p10:00
Lickerty10:00
johhnyadler: I have a script I've been writing for it10:00
Kalidarn_jason: go into OpenOffice.org2 (assuming your running Ubuntu, and try to save as a Microsoft Office XML 2003 document)10:01
DragnovichHow Do I install an FTP server in ubuntu Hoary?? apt-get install WHAT??10:01
johhnyadler: Do you do any shell scripting?10:01
dooglusLicker: 'su' works fine for any account with a password set10:01
Kalidarn_jason: you must be running 5.10 Preview or 5.10 RC10:01
adlerjohhny, hmmm giving "linux vga=791" in the ubuntu install boot prompt is ok, right?  I mean "linux" is the name of the image?10:01
adlerjohhny, I don't do much scripting10:01
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joe_kevogod, sorry i should have explained, i already have the codecs on my desktop, but i don't know how to install them10:01
_jasonKalidarn:  trying now, just an empty file good enough?10:01
Kalidarnjust put like some garbage there10:01
paulproteus|lapt!win32codecs10:01
ubotupaulproteus|lapt: What?10:02
Kalidarnif you want.10:02
paulproteus|lapt!w32codecs10:02
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)10:02
mouhezhow do I make ubuntu execute a command when it's fully booted?10:02
kevogodjoe_, From the terminal, type 'sudo dpkg -i w32codecs.deb'10:02
Kalidarn_jason: failed?10:02
kevogodjoe_, Replace w32codecs.deb with the name of the actual file.10:02
johhnyadler: yes that should work. Give me a few minutes and I'll send you a script I've been working on for breezy10:02
paulproteus|laptmouhez: Create an init script, and put in /etc/rc2.d/10:02
_jasonKalidarn:  yep10:02
mouhezhm, okay10:02
Kalidarnah ha!10:02
dooglusmouhez: add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh10:02
Kalidarnit must be broken then10:02
Lickerdooglus: i know this but it wouldnt work in breezy, only worked as sudo10:02
mouhez:)10:02
Kalidarncan you visit the help thing?10:02
kevogodjoe_, You must be in the same directory as the .deb package as well though. Use cd to change directories.10:02
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dooglusLicker: that's probably because root doesn't have a password by default10:03
Kalidarnie Help, OpenOffice.org Help10:03
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Kalidarni get "the help system could not be started10:03
Kalidarn"10:03
_jasonKalidarn:  no but i did uninstall yelp10:03
dooglusKalidarn: that's a known bug10:03
Kalidarnhmm.10:03
Kalidarnokay10:03
Kalidarnany workaground dooglus?10:03
dooglusKalidarn: I think it's an upstream problem10:03
Kalidarnie open office dev?10:04
joacinjust  installed ubuntu, but  only resolution avail. is 640x48010:04
dooglusyeah.10:04
Kalidarnor ubuntu implementation?10:04
paulproteus|lapt!x10:04
ubotupaulproteus|lapt: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:04
paulproteus|lapt!resolution10:04
ubotuI guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:04
doogluslike it's broken in all OO.org210:04
KalidarnOH10:04
Kalidarn;P10:04
Kalidarnthe XML thing DID work though10:04
Kalidarnat one stage10:04
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joacinubotu:thx10:04
Kalidarnand it works with 5.10 Preview without any updates :)10:04
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, joacin10:04
Kalidarnone day when i updated it though it screwed up. :P10:04
dooglusKalidarn: we're talking org2, right?10:04
joacinpaulproteus|lapt:  thx10:04
Kalidarnyes10:04
Kalidarn1.9.129 to be exact10:05
mylastmorningcan someone help me with a wireless problem?10:05
paulproteus|laptmylastmorning: Depends. :)10:05
paulproteus|laptAsk us.10:05
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dooglusKalidarn: I'd check the bug number for you, but my girlfriend is watching a DVD at the moment, which limits my screen space...  :)10:05
Kalidarnopenoffice.org2-core 1.9.129-0ubuntu4, Friday Oct 7 18:39:57 UTC 200510:05
maddlermylastmorning: who may tell...10:06
dooglus(I've got a tiny gnome-terminal in the corner)10:06
Kalidarnhehe dooglus lets hope its fixed10:06
Kalidarnbefore ubuntu goes final.10:06
Kalidarncos not having working help blows10:06
zeedodooglus: owned, get her her own box mate10:06
misieqhow do i right-click with mouse under ubuntu for ppc (mac, with only one-button mouse)10:06
naliothmisieq: f1210:06
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Lickerdooglus: my root has a pass...  other than that. i dont know . hehe10:06
doogluszeedo: she has her own box, but it's too heavy for watching movies in bed10:06
mylastmorningwhen installing my wireless-G WMP54G PCI Adapter card linux doesn't reconise it.10:06
misieqnalioth, f12+clcik?10:06
arcanistherogueLicker: sorry for the late response.  If you havent figured it out yet, im pretty sure you just do "sudo alien filename.rpm"10:07
zeedodooglus: sucks, although good to see the women folk the world over get the substandard kit :-P10:07
dooglusLicker: I just tried "su". typed my root password and got a root shell10:07
test34I can't get rid of the little light icon for "post update information" even though when I click it it is empty.. any ideas ?10:07
test34it even come back after reboot..10:07
naliothmisieq: just F1210:07
mylastmorningmaddler think you can help me with my problem?10:08
doogluszeedo: it's a new acer 'laptop', but like 17 inch screen or something.  you'd need quite a lap...10:08
zeedodooglus: we have one of them in the office, we call it Lapzilla - bloody good machines though10:08
dooglusheh10:08
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dooglusit came with 4 missing pixels & the supplier wouldn't replace the screen10:08
maddlermylastmorning: never tried that one...10:08
leagrishello all10:08
mylastmorninghi leagris10:09
leagrissomeone know where to get amd64 cedega ?10:09
maddlerchecked for linux drivers?10:09
maddlermylastmorning: maybe on google...10:09
johhnyleagris: www.transgaming.com10:09
maddlermylastmorning: and give a try at ndiswrapper10:09
mylastmorningthey don't have linux drivers maddler.10:09
nawDoes anyone here have exp. w/ ndiswrapper?10:09
pupilIf I want to use KDE as my window manager do I need to install kubuntu?10:09
Lickerdooglus: humm.. weird.10:09
pupilnalioth, If I want to use KDE as my window manager do I need to install kubuntu?10:09
naliothpupil: that would be the best option10:09
pupilic10:09
mylastmorningI tried ndiswrapper but everytime I try to activate the card it freeze my pc... any ideas their madller?10:10
leagrisjohhny, ony i386 cedega and it ownt install on amd64 wrong architecture (it complains)10:10
dooglusLicker: you sure you set a root password?10:10
pupilnalioth, what are you using as your window manager,. ?10:10
mylastmorningI tried ndiswrapper but everytime I try to activate the card it freeze my pc... any ideas their maddler?10:10
Dreamgliderhow di i install a .deb file ?10:10
maddlermylastmorning: http://www.alexandern.com/Linksys_WMP54G_on_Linux.html10:10
maddlertry this...10:10
Dreamglideri want skype10:10
dooglusDreamglider: sudo dpkg -i <.deb file>10:10
kevogodDreamglider, sudo dpkg -i <name>.deb10:10
pupilDreamglider, sudo dpkg10:10
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Dreamgliderthanks mate's10:10
johhnyleagris: well ask them to recompile it for amd64. That is a proprietary application10:10
doogluswow, we're good at the easy ones, eh?10:10
kevogoddooglus, :-)10:10
Dreamglideryaya :)10:10
Lickerdooglus: how do I check?10:11
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dooglusLicker: if 'su' doesn't work...10:11
dooglusLicker: you can set a root password by doing "sudo passwd"10:11
LasseLshould I have the breezy-backports repo enabled when I upgrade, or is that asking for trouble?10:11
naliothpupil: i do most of my stuff in a terminal10:11
pupilnalioth, I guess You don't care for a window manager10:12
mylastmorningmaddler that is for a different distro.10:12
BurgerMannErh. If I delete a folder by rm folder -R and afterwards type locate folder, it seems to finde the folder anyhow :s.. why's that?10:12
Lickerdooglus: ooohhh.h..  good eye. It wasnt set.  :/10:12
Lickerty10:12
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naliothpupil: the window mangler doesnt matter to me, i have terminals open everywhere10:13
pupilcan I see your screen?10:13
pupilI'm just curious10:13
maddlermylastmorning: http://www.linux-sec.net/Wireless/Drivers/10:13
dooglusnalioth: window manager "ratpoison" is good for terminal use.10:14
dooglusnalioth: it's like "screen" but for X10:14
maddlermylastmorning: btw... googling for "WMP54G ubuntu linux" will give some interesting hints...10:14
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b0uncerevening10:15
nickrudBurgerMann, locate uses an index of file names, which is updated about once a day; sudo updatedb will update the index for you10:15
naliothdooglus: ty10:15
maddlerdooglus: sorry... sounds interesting... but wasn't reading... what's that program?10:15
BurgerMannnickrud, oh.10:15
dooglusnalioth: caleld "ratpoison" 'cos it kills the need to use the mouse...10:15
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naliothdooglus: yes i'm familiar with it10:15
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Kenseywhat's the package that adds the Debian menus to the Ubuntu menu?10:16
Dreamgliderhey i had the nevest 385 kernel and updated to 686, in grub i can now choose to boot the 386 or the 686 is that normal ?10:16
BurgerMannI have this quite perculiar problem. I've deleted my configured PHP from it's prefix. But Apache still seem to work with php, even though I restarted it. Does anyone have a clue why?10:16
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Kenseyand what's the package with the win32 codecs?10:16
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florent_hi there10:16
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florent_I've installed the RC release of Ubuntu 5.1010:17
nickrudKensey, for the debian menu, menu-xdg, iirc10:17
dooglus!w32codes10:17
ubotudooglus: What?10:17
dooglus!w32codec10:17
ubotudooglus: Are you smoking crack?10:17
dooglus!w32codecs10:17
ubotuw32codecs is, like, totally, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)10:17
Dreamglideri mean the newest 386 not 385*10:17
naliothubotu: tell Kensey about w32codecs10:17
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florent_I'm quite disappointed with the SuSE 10.0 final release ;)10:17
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naliothdooglus: please have ubotu msg folks10:17
kevogodflodine, Why?10:17
kevogodflorent_, Why?10:17
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dooglusnalioth: !w32codecs10:18
b0uncerI'm disappointed with Breezy rc :/10:18
pupilI'd have a hard time using ratpoison10:18
dooglusit would be good if that syntax worked...10:18
naliothdooglus: !channelspam10:19
b0uncerpppoe doesn't work anymore10:19
florent_there is a lot of annoying little bugs ;o) for example, if you launch Amarok or between each track, the PCM sound is muted ;o) quite annoying ;o) when you install a package, a font config file is reseted cause my perfect font rendering withtou anti-aliasing for small size MS TT Core Fonts are lost ;)10:19
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florent_so i give a test to Breezy, quite nice but I've probelms10:19
dooglushow easy it is to change ubotu's code?  could he be made to recognise "name: !topic"?  better than having to type "tell name about topic"10:19
florent_in fact I have a big problem with hotplug freezing at boot10:19
_jasoncan anyone tell me if they have any media player that will correctly stream this(soccer game being broadcasted at the moment): mms://rdp.oninet.pt/antena1  Thanks in advance.10:19
florent_so I have disabled it10:19
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illissiusare there any known issues with the dhcp/network only actually coming up several minutes after (k)ubuntu has already booted?10:20
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florent_but I'm forced to modprobe my WIFI card later (no such a problem), but I have no sound and my CD burner isn't seen, do you think it could be because hotplug isn't launched ?10:20
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naliothdooglus: it's a blootbot10:20
illissius(this is troublesome as I'd like to mount some network shares on startup, ntp I don't care so much about...)10:21
typois there a command to launch whatever is chosen as the default browser?10:21
florent_I would like to help before the release but there is few days now10:21
pupilis this guy a nerd,..? http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/keyboards/007-jcorneli/10:22
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linlinHi how do I install Java Runtime Environment for use by FireFox?10:22
mae!java10:23
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ubotujava is probably to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java10:23
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oxezlinlin: http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ch03s02.html10:23
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tylerdurdenhey will an fx 5500 give me much better perofmrance than ati?10:25
tylerdurdenati radeon 9200*10:25
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TrashcanI need alien, but it's asking for my breezy CD- can i tell it to get it from universe/official?10:26
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illissiustylerdurden: at 3D, depends10:26
naliothTrashcan: edit your sources.list, comment out the cdrom line and try again10:26
tylerdurdenbecasue i heard that ati is really bad in linux10:26
illissiusthe hardware is comparable, but ATi's drivers are worse10:26
Trashcanthanks na10:26
tylerdurdenright now im getting 1273 in glxgears with my ati10:26
vothshould i installed the w32codecs before installing vlc and mplayer or xine in order to get wm* support10:26
oxez!glxgears10:26
ubotuoxez: I don't know10:27
oxezdamn10:27
illissiusglxgears sucks as a benchmark10:27
oxezyes10:27
illissiusit's meaningless, all you can really tell from it is whether you have software or hardware rendering10:27
maeglxgears is pretty basic..10:27
tylerdurdenhow will i know if ill get better results?10:27
ompaulillissius, glxgears is not a benchmark10:27
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illissiustylerdurden: try an actual game? :)10:27
oxeztylerdurden: try ut2004 demo for example10:27
tylerdurdenwell i dont wanna install a card, try a game, install another card, try again10:28
oxezWith my ati radeon 9800 it was a bit under the "playable" state10:28
tylerdurdeni just want an answer maybe from exprience10:28
illissius[22:27:30]  <ompaul> illissius, glxgears is not a benchmark <- precisely what I was saying...10:28
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illissiustylerdurden: if you're buying a new card, get nvidia, if you already have ati, try it first to see how bad it is first10:28
kevogodtylerdurden, What ATI model do you have/10:28
tylerdurdeni have 2 cards, right now i have radeon 9200 installed, and in my closet i have an fx 550010:28
linlinhow do i enable multiverse repos? synaptic isnt allowing me to do it10:28
kevogodI have an ATI x300 and get over 1500 FPS with glxgears unsynced.10:29
illissiustylerdurden: in that case, go with the nvidia, I'd say10:29
pcharky!multiverse10:29
ubotuask me about !repositories10:29
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pcharky!respositories10:29
ubotupcharky: Syntax error in line 110:29
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linlinlol10:29
pcharky!repositories10:29
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))10:29
tylerdurdenok and how would i go about doing that? in windows i just uninstall the drivers and stick in the new card10:29
pcharkyhappy now..!@*&^10:29
tylerdurdendo i first install the card, then uninstall drivers? or uninstall drivers and THEN install card10:29
joe_kevogod, hi, i still can't get the my mplayer to work correctly even after ht codecs were installed10:30
illissiusno one has any ideas about my dhcp/networking problems? (network only comes up several minutes after it's already booted)10:30
pcharkytylerdurden: install the card, install the drivers.10:30
oxeztylerdurden: are you ircing as root?10:30
tylerdurdenbut right now i have ati drivers installed10:30
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tylerdurdeni know for sure ill have to remove them10:30
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kevogodjoe_, What type of media are you trying to play?10:31
joe_wmv10:31
pcharkytylerdurden: you don't HAVE to, you can if you wish, it's all about your xorg.conf10:31
joe_website type videos10:31
oxezI don't think you have to remove the drivers, just don't load the fglrx module10:31
tylerdurdenwell if ill have nvidia installed i rather now have the ati stuff on my cmoputer10:31
kevogodjoe_, Are you trying to play this inside of your browser?10:31
tylerdurdenwhats fglrx module?10:32
tylerdurdenand how do i remove the ati drivers?10:32
linlindamnit its not working10:32
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oxezfglrx is the driver10:32
barawiechey10:32
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linlinsynaptic just closes10:32
joe_yes10:32
joe_and outside too10:32
kevogodjoe_, If so, you will need to install mozilla-mplayer through Synaptic.10:32
joe_but nothing sorks'10:32
ProN00bcan anyone tell me how to check with what filesystem my usbdrive (mp3 player) is mounted, and how i can unmount remount it manually ?10:32
kevogodjoe_, Oh, hmm.10:32
oxezProN00b: try "mount"10:32
joe_kevogod i already installaed mozilla mplayer10:32
oxezyou'll see a list of mounted filesystems10:32
nickrudlinlin, the simplest way (I think) would be sudo gedit /etc/sources.list, and, in every line that universe appears, append multiverse10:33
kevogodjoe_, Try installing totem-xine and see if you can the file through Totem.10:33
linlinoh ok i was jsut going to ask that10:33
kevogod*play10:33
tylerdurdenand how do i remove the ati drivers then?10:33
pcharkyProN00b: you can check: `dmesg` to see the device.10:33
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joe_k10:34
pupilis it possible to put xfce on my desktop without any hickups?10:34
pupilI mean,. use xfce window manager10:34
ProN00busbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)10:34
ProN00b*_*10:34
pcharkyProN00b: nope, that's not it.10:34
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glickhi10:35
ProN00b/dev/sda on /media/usbdisk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,sync,noatime,quiet,uid=0,gid=0,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)10:35
ProN00byay10:35
ProN00bnow i can umount that and remount it ?10:35
glickexcuse me can someone help me out as to why all of a suden mplayer wont play my files?10:35
pcharkyProN00b: did you mount it manually?10:35
naliothpupil: yes, install xfce410:35
glick[AO ESD]  esd_open_sound failed: No such file or directory10:35
glick[AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy10:35
glickalsa-init: got device=0, subdevice=010:35
glickalsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default10:35
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ProN00bno, pcharky10:36
pupilnalioth,  should I use synaptic to do it?10:36
glickit stops after that10:36
tylerdurdenuhh so no one knows?10:36
naliothglick: do not paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin10:36
pcharkyProN00b: okay, edit /etc/fstab: sudo gedit /etc/fstab10:36
naliothpupil: yes, synaptic10:36
glicksorry10:36
ProN00beh ?_?10:36
tylerdurdennalioth can u help me again? lol10:37
ProN00bpcharky, not in there10:37
pcharkyProN00b: you can unmount it with: umount /media/usbdisk10:37
naliothtylerdurden: what is your question?10:37
ProN00bthanks, pcharky10:37
pupilanyone heard of rocklyte?10:37
glickanyone know why mplayer might not be playing my files?10:37
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tylerdurdeni hear that ati is much worse than nvidia right? right now i have an ati radeon 9200 installed and get 1273 in glxgears, i have an fx 5500 in my closet and thinking about installing it, will it be worth it?10:37
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naliothglick: identify yourself with nickserv and type /msg ubotu sound10:38
nickrudglick, try mplayer -ao esd <file>,10:38
naliothtylerdurden: install the nvidia10:38
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tylerdurdenok, and what about the ati drivers? do i first remove them? or install the nvidia card and then remove the ati drivers?10:38
ProN00bomg10:38
zerobl0gtylerdurden: nvidia driver is "nv" ati has many in X10:38
glicknickrud, yeah that works10:38
dooglusI can't find any bug report in bugzilla to the effect that openoffice.org2's help system is broken, but I could have sworn that I reported it before10:38
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glamhow to downgrade from breezy to hoary?10:39
glicknickrud, but there is no sound10:39
zerobl0gtylerdurden: cool nick btw10:39
zerobl0g:)10:39
ProN00bhow do i mount something as plain fat (not fat32 nor vfat)10:39
tylerdurdenty :P great movie10:39
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naliothglam: reinstall your box10:39
zerobl0gtylerdurden: yeah :)10:39
nickrudglick, then, in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf, change your audio out10:39
pcharkyProN00b: for all i know vfat is plain fat.10:39
ProN00bpcharky, vfat is enhanced fat32, but it can !read! fat10:40
tylerdurdenso again , do i first install the nvidia card and then uninstall the ati drivers? or reverse10:40
glamanyone installed mono on Breezy?10:40
dooglusglam: I did10:40
pcharkyProN00b: man mount10:40
nickrudglick, possibly a mixer issue?10:40
naliothtylerdurden: use your head.10:40
glamdooglus. how?10:40
dooglusglam: apt-get10:40
pcharkyProN00b: msdos10:40
dooglusglam: I think I did "apt-get install blam", and mono is a dependancy of blam10:40
tylerdurdennalioth im new to linux, i uninstall the ati drivers once and xserver wouldnt boot10:40
tylerdurdenso thats y im asking10:40
dooglusglam: blam is an RSS feed reader10:41
ProN00bpcharky, the filesystem name for plain FAT is msdos ?10:41
glicknickrud, hmm i dont knwo my mplayer was working fine yesturday10:41
glamwhen I install mono, it complain my glibc is too old.10:41
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dooglusglam: how are you installing it?10:42
pcharkyProN00b: Not 100% sure: man mount10:42
nickrudglick, I'm not sure, I'm not an mplayer or sound guru. What I suggested fixed my problems with mplayer a couple of times.10:42
naliothtylerdurden: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver10:42
ProN00bpcharky, yeah, it looks like it10:42
naliothtylerdurden: then remove your card, drop in the nvidia and restart10:42
glamapt-get mono. it require mono-jit10:43
zerobl0gif it wasnt for Linux id write things on paper and use my computer as a legresting-place :)10:43
naliothtylerdurden: at that point you can install the nvidia driver of your choice10:43
tylerdurdenhow? and from where10:43
tylerdurdenand my most important question, do i uninstall the ati drivers or not? i dont understand this10:43
glamthen I apt-get mono-jit, it compained glib6 is too old.10:43
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pcharkytylerdurden: you don't HAVE to, you can if you wish, it's all about your xorg.conf10:44
tylerdurdenwhat do u mean its all about my xorg.conf?10:44
tylerdurdenim new to linux, so this is confusing10:44
tylerdurdenmight seem like a stupid question that  a baby would know but i dont know10:44
naliothtylerdurden: identify yourself with nickserv, so you can receive info from ubotu10:45
tylerdurdenhow do i identify? i never registed10:45
apokryphostylerdurden: register then10:45
pcharkytylerdurden: xorg.conf is the configuration of Xorg, the graphical server, it's there where you tell the server which driver module to use.10:45
naliothtylerdurden: /msg nickserv help register10:45
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tylerdurdenregister 1234510:46
tylerdurdenlol it doesnt work10:46
tylerdurdendo i put a slash infront?10:46
wesleyCould someone recommend a memory stick? I'm about to go out and buy one, don't want to get stuck with Windows-only10:46
pcharkytylerdurden: yup10:46
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ProN00bpcharky, any idea how i enable it to use long (> ???????.???) filenames through its fat ?10:46
tylerdurdenREGISTER test10:46
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tylerdurdenugh it doesnt work10:46
BioVorEwhat dose channel modes P & F mean?10:47
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illissiusit's in the logs too, various bootup stuffs: 22:05, dhcp: 22:1110:47
pcharkyProN00b: That's fat32 functionality10:47
illissiusit's waiting 6 minutes just to piss me off :|10:47
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ProN00bpcharky, it worked under windows, and it was still formated as fat10:47
illissiustylerdurden: /msg nickserv register password10:47
kikinovakHi. No troll intended. I'm a Ubuntu convert (ex-Slack veteran), I tried both Ubuntu and Kubuntu, and I _really_ like them both. Do you agree with me that GNOME is better integrated than KDE? (I'm impartial, though I used KDE until now) Makes me think about migrating from KDE to GNOME definitely, only I'm curious about your opinions on the subject...10:47
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naliothBioVorE: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml10:48
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pcharkyProN00b: formatting as fat in windows is (i presume) fat32.10:48
illissiuskikinovak: define integrated10:48
illissiusand no.10:48
tyler_durdenok im registered10:48
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naliothkikinovak: please use what is best for you. kde apps work under gnome and vice versa10:48
ProN00bno, i could select between FAT and FAT32, pcharky10:48
tyler_durdenubotu tell tyler_durden about nvidia10:48
aaron___does anyone have admin privledges for this IRC server? my damn screen name is stuck logged in.10:49
zxsykco!nvidia10:49
ubotunvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:49
kikinovaknalioth: don't get me wrong... I like em both. I also like xfce a lot on my old laptop.10:49
naliothtyler_durden: please speak with ubotu in /msg window10:49
illissiusaaron___: /msg nickserv ghost oldnick password10:49
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aaron___anyone know how to make ATI drivers work correctly? I've got a Radeon 9800PRO10:49
pcharkyProN00b: If this is about the usb disk, it was mounted read-write, and to know about >8.3 filenames, you can just test that.10:49
hramrachHello10:49
naliothkikinovak: use what is best for you10:50
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nawI have a very simple newbie question: What can I not execute sudo commands in the root terminal?10:50
glamhow do I fix this : nemerle: Depends: mono-jit (>= 1.1.8.2) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages10:50
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naliothglam: have apt-get build mono-jit10:50
pcharkynaw: you're logged in as root?10:50
mylastmorningthanks illissius.10:50
nawIm logged in under the username i chose during install10:50
Skidnaw: What can you not? do you mean why can you not ?  Your user may not be listed in /etc/sudoers10:50
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nawim trying to configure ndiswrapper for my broadcom and it wont let me execute ndiswrapper -m10:51
nawin the root terminal10:51
Skidnaw: as you actually the user 'root' ?10:51
kikinovaknalioth: this is not another gnome-vs-kde troll. example: with slackware you'd better stick to kde because it's better integrated.... or you have to get some 3rd party gnome. well, it seems to be the other way round here.10:51
ProN00bwhat do you mean with that, pcharky ?_?10:51
pcharkynaw: And now you're logged in through a (regular text-based)terminal and you can's use sudo?10:51
hramrachHow do people burn CDs in Ubuntu? Is there some CD  burning gui installed by default?10:51
kikinovaknalioth: I'm not another newbie pissing on KDE/GNOME10:51
pcharkyProN00b: basically: I don't know..10:52
nawIm going through the Root Terminal option under the applicatins menu10:52
ProN00bok10:52
Skidhramrach: gnome has a CD burning app10:52
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glamnalioth: do I really need to compile, I just want nemerle to install.10:52
pcharkyhramrach: just insert the cd.10:52
Skidor, you k3b10:52
naliothkikinovak: let us speak in #ubuntu-offtopic10:52
nawany takers?10:52
naliothglam: if the pkg is not available or broken, you'll need to have apt-get build it10:52
ProN00banyone else know how to enable more lenght for names than 8.3 with the msdos fs ?10:52
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pcharkynaw: I catch your drift, holdon, I'll check it out.10:53
nawthanks pcharky10:53
SkidI think that's the hard limit, ProN00b10:53
hramrachWhere is it in gnome? I did not find it in the menu10:53
Skidhramrach: just put a blank cd in your cd writer10:53
nawApplications -> System Tools10:53
glamnalioth, the pkg is in fact avaiable, it just depend on a newer version of another package.10:53
Skidit opens automatically10:53
ProN00bhumm, then how can windows manage it, Skid *_*10:53
nawoh10:53
pcharkynaw: I don't have that option, but you don't need it, since you can run all commands from a regular terminal with sudo10:53
nawok..10:53
hramrachok, I will try. Thanks10:53
nawHm..10:54
SkidProN00b: it abbreviates names, afaik10:54
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nawHmm..10:54
ruif13hi10:54
kevogodHow do I remove LDAP servers from within Evolution?10:54
nawok it worked but now i cant get my lights to come on on the wireless nic10:54
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nawa whole nother issue, right?10:55
ProN00bnaw, the disk is still fat, but it mounts as fat32 under linux and has long names, but mounts as fat under windows and got long names. its really f*cked up10:55
ruif13where is the config file of openvpn?10:55
ruif13anyone no?10:55
ProN00bwtf, someone has the name naw in here, i mean no with naw usually that10:55
nawhehe10:55
naliothruif13: look in ~/.openvpn10:55
pcharkykevogod: Go to 'contacts', right-click the ldap-server, and select delete..10:55
nawI went through the howto for broadcom nics and my lights still wont come on..10:55
kevogodpcharky, If that worked, I wouldn't be asking.10:55
durt10:55
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nawanyone care to help a n00b out10:56
naliothnaw: ask a question10:56
nawok10:56
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programadorhola10:56
nawEvery time I use ndiswrapper to load the appropriate driver for the NIC, ndiswrapper lists it as invalid driver preventing the lights from coming on on the nic10:56
nalioth!es10:56
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:56
ruif13nalioth i don't found that :S10:56
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nawndiswrapper worked perfect on my pci wireless nic...this is frustrating :<10:57
naliothruif13: visit the openvpn website and see any FAQs10:57
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ruif13thanks10:57
programadorcomo estan por alla10:57
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naliothprogramador: no hablamos espanol aqui, vaya de el #ubuntu-es, por favor10:58
pcharkyprogramador: please, english10:58
fangoriousafter updating yesterday, I don't get the graphical boot anymore. any idea where to enable that?10:58
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Freshum, hi all.10:58
programadorokey  all right10:58
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Freshcan i ask a question?10:58
pcharkyFresh: suer10:59
naliothFresh: that's what #ubuntu is here for10:59
fangoriousFresh, just ask, don't need permission10:59
nawAny ideas?10:59
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IRCMonkeyif i choose " do nothing" to the larger partition, will it really not format it? (stupid question)10:59
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hajikiIRCMonkey, right11:00
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johhnyIRCMonkey: This isn't microsoft. If you tell it not to do something, it really will not do it11:00
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IRCMonkeyok thanks11:00
Freshwell.... i'm tryin to set up a dual boot system. just reinstalled xp with fat partition. if i do an install with ubuntu now, am i still gonna get those boot problems that i had the first time i tried this?11:00
kevogodpcharky, I cannot right-click the LDAP Servers.11:00
IRCMonkeyi was scared that if i formattedd 1 partition , it would format my whole disk11:00
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naliothFresh: you shouldnt11:00
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fangoriousanyone know how to re-enable the graphical boot sequence?11:01
Freshokay, cool.11:01
Freshthanks11:01
hajikiIRCMonkey, it will only format the partitions with the faces11:01
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IRCMonkeyhajiki - faces?11:01
hajikiIRCMonkey, theres like some little faces next to them on the next screen11:02
IRCMonkeyand the downward pointing arrow thing?11:02
IRCMonkeyso that inticated what will be formatted for ubuntu11:02
hajikiIRCMonkey, but in any case it should only format if you tell it to Format11:02
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IRCMonkeyok11:02
IRCMonkeyfor the partition, what option should i choose?11:02
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ThePyromaniacquestion, what does it mean when i turn my PC on, select the harddrive with ubuntu on and it says "No valid device. Press any key to continue....@ then goes to my other HD?11:02
IRCMonkeylike ext2 ext3??11:03
ompaul311:03
hajikiext3 is a safe bet11:03
r0xoRhow do i specify fonts other than the standard "xfontsel" type fonts... isn't there some like xfs:"Font Name" syntax too? what was that?11:03
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IRCMonkeyok thanks11:03
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hajikir0xoR, only if the app is xfs aware11:03
r0xoRhajiki, ok but is that the syntax?11:03
yerhey everybody, is it wrong that i solve 99% of my debian problems by reading the ubuntu forums?11:04
hajikir0bby, in which case you just use the font name space font size like this 'Times New Roman 11'11:04
IRCMonkeyim a little paranoid because i got scared of the WARNING page that says all partitions would be formatted11:04
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naliothyer: as long as it solves your problems, no. but some forum contributions are plain wrong11:04
hajikiIRCMonkey, did you chose the USE ENTIRE DISK option?11:04
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yernalioth, hahaha11:04
IRCMonkeyno11:04
IRCMonkeyi went inot advanced11:04
yerhey nalioth, what do you think of this11:04
IRCMonkey*into11:04
hajikiIRCMonkey, it meant only the ones you chose to be formatted then11:05
ThePyromaniachello guys? ^^11:05
yerdebian stable, linux 2.6.8-2-k7, gphoto2 2.1.5, libgphoto2  2.1.5, libgphoto2_port 0.5.1, sony cyber-shot DSC P41 in PTP mode, works just fine with gphoto2 -P under linux 2.4.x, but under 2.6.x i get "Could not find USB device (vendor 0x54c, product 0x4e)" any ideas?11:05
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IRCMonkeyit showed the main partiton (75GB) and the other (5GB)11:05
ThePyromaniac"No valid device. Press any key to continue...." what does this error message mean? google tells me nothing11:05
naliothyer: i suggest you get the source driver and compile it11:05
phillambrechtsIs there any way i can get nautilus to show thumbnails on mounted SMB shares that I mounted through the Connect To Server app?11:05
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ThePyromaniaconly something about fixmbr which is windows boot records is it not?11:05
ompaulThePyromaniac, what tells you where?11:05
yernalioth, but then i gotta screw with my kernel :(11:05
IRCMonkeyi have a little arrow going from the larger partition to the smaller11:05
IRCMonkeywith that smiley face u told me about11:06
hajikiphillambrechts, system > preferences > file management, under the Preview Tab11:06
agrisbdoes anyone has working canon laserbase MF5630 on hoary?11:06
ThePyromaniacompaul when i boot my pc and press F8 to select my HD it says "No valid device. Press any key to continue...." and then goes to my default HD11:06
ompaulwhy do you press F8?11:06
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ThePyromaniacto select my HD11:07
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phillambrechtshajiki, thanks a lot!11:07
IRCMonkeywould that be a good setup, hajiki?11:07
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ompaulThePyromaniac, don't press F8 and see what happens11:07
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El_Chei hope a lot of bugfixes go into breezy. hibernation for my laptop died between hoary --> breezy11:07
hajikiIRCMonkey, its really up to you, do you want a really simple setup or a complex one?11:07
ThePyromaniacok. i hate running live CD though, lol11:07
ompaulThePyromaniac, if you get stuck you can press esc duting that11:07
ThePyromaniacthanks, cya soon either way11:07
IRCMonkeysine i do not know a lot, il go with simple11:08
LoevborgIs a problem known that mouse wheels don't work out-of-the-box in breezy that did in hoary?11:08
ompaulThePyromaniac, are you talking about using the live CD only ?11:08
hajikiIRCMonkey, how much RAM do you have11:08
IRCMonkey1.5GB11:08
ThePyromaniacompaul no i mean i am using LiveCD when it fails11:08
ompaulLoevborg, they did on all the boxes I installed it on it11:08
IRCMonkey80GB HD11:08
hajikiIRCMonkey, ok then i would go with a swap partion of the same size or if you think youll use a lot double it11:08
hajikiIRCMonkey, and then use all the remaining space for /11:08
IRCMonkeyok so that means i need 3 partitions?11:08
hajikino 211:09
nawEvery time I use ndiswrapper to load the appropriate driver for the NIC, ndiswrapper lists it as invalid driver preventing the lights from coming on on the nic. ne ideas?11:09
IRCMonkeyok11:09
hajikione for swap and one for /11:09
Loevborgompaul, weird because on mine as well as on the one of a friend, it doesn't11:09
ompaulLoevborg, funny mice?11:09
IRCMonkeywhat if i want to keep Windows on a partition?11:09
ompaulIRCMonkey, you can11:09
Loevborgompaul, very regular ones (intellimouse explorer)11:09
IRCMonkeyi want to dual boot11:09
hajikiIRCMonkey, yeah you can11:09
IRCMonkeyso that means 3 partitions, right?11:10
jrranyone know what ubuntu patches into the kernel besides the ubuntu logo?11:10
Loevborgompaul, it is not required to have the mouse plugged in at a cretain point of time, now isit?11:10
hajikiIRCMonkey, the install should auto detect that partition if you dont delete it and add it to the boot loader11:10
hajikiIRCMonkey, do you not already have a windows install?11:10
IRCMonkeyyes11:10
Loevborgjrr, you can look at the patches in the kernel package source11:10
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IRCMonkeyon the 75GB partition11:10
hajikiIRCMonkey, windows is a bit picky so it has to be the 1st partition, so yes 3 partions if you are going to have windows11:10
Loevborgjrr, it's probably quite a bit of patching11:10
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ompaulLoevborg, no and yes : it should be there when you are configuring the xserver11:11
jrrLoevborg: i don't anticipate looking at the diffs will answer my question =] 11:11
frank_bI stopped having sound in my computer. how can I know if it's a hardware problem or a linux problem?11:11
IRCMonkeyok i got it11:11
agrisbdoes anyone has working canon laserbase MF5630 on hoary?11:11
Loevborgompaul, is that true?11:11
hajikiIRCMonkey, okay sorry i missed the fact that you had two disks :)11:11
ompaulLoevborg, well how else is the xserver going to figure out what mouse is there?11:11
IRCMonkeyno i have 1 HD with 2 partitions11:11
IRCMonkeyits a laptop11:11
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pcharkyhajiki: Doesnt' have to be the 1st partition, you can have a small (64M) boot partition before it.11:11
Skiddont suppose anyone knows if its possible to use subtitles with VLC?11:12
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hajikipcharky, oh didnt know that, i've had so many problems with dual booting windows w/ NTFS. and thats the only way i've gotten around it11:12
halogray_Hello11:12
jrrSkid: almost certain it's possible11:12
Loevborgompaul, on a laptop it should be a common use case to plug in another mouse which should not require reconfiguring the X server...11:12
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frank_bHi all. I stopped having sound in my computer. how can I know if it's a hardware problem or a linux problem? is a the any sound log file I can check?11:12
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Loevborgompaul, by configuring, you mean dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? Is there a way to suppress questions about keyboard etc.?11:13
pcharkyhajiki: The windows partition has to start in the first ?? blocks of the disk11:13
ompaulLoevborg,  yeap and the most basic mice does not have the 3 button syndrome11:13
ompaulLoevborg, i do mean that, and I don't know11:13
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fangoriouswhat should I be looking for if I see this/usr/share/samba/panic-action: line 48: mail: command not found11:13
fangorious" trying to start samba? "11:13
Loevborgjrr, I can emphasize11:13
IRCMonkeyok so i make a small partition like 64mb like pcharky said, and go into options to make it a boot partition, and make the larger partition an ext3?11:13
halograyGoogling this is little use as I get tons of guides on how to set up linux dns servers... all I want to know is how to add a known dns server to linux11:13
hajikipcharky, oh well doesnt really matter anymore as i no longer dual boot :)11:13
ompaulLoevborg, however I do know that it suggests sensible options11:13
halograyWhat file typically points out what dns servers to use?11:14
hajikipcharky, maybe you can help him out with that method as i've never done it11:14
pcharkyIRCMonkey: my setup is: 1: 64M /boot, 2 win, 3 swap, then the rest.11:14
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Blejdfisthalogray: edit /etc/resolv.conf or use System->Administration->Networking11:14
pcharkyhajiki: Sure11:15
halograyExcellent.  Thank you11:15
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Loevborgompaul, yes, but suggesting dpkg-reconfigure to a neophyte can be embarassing... ("nodeadkeys what??")11:15
pcharkyIRCMonkey: do you have an existing windows partition?11:15
IRCMonkeyso the third "swap" actually contains Ubuntu?11:15
IRCMonkeyyes11:15
unpersonI want to move my /home directory and all subdirectories to a new partition I've created.  I've mounted the partition.  I was simply going to go to /home and cp -a * /mnt/new_home, then I would get rid of the old one and make the appropriate changes to fstab and reboot.  Are there any other options I should add to the cp command?11:15
Loevborgompaul, ah maybe "dpkg-reconfigure --default-priority"  wll do the job11:15
ormandjsomebody kick japhet, he's doing on-join messages asking for shell accounts for psybnc or something heh11:16
pcharkyAnd you're going to (or have) resize that using a tool such as partition magic?11:16
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ompaulLoevborg, there is that,11:16
IRCMonkeyyes i selected "install another OS" and made a 5GB partition formatted for linux11:16
hajikiIRCMonkey, swap is what Windows considers virtual memory. its its own partition that is used when your ram is all being used up.11:16
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IRCMonkeyo.011:16
hajikiin a sense it can me backup ram, but on your disk11:17
_jasonunperson:  I did that by following this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46866  everything went smoothly11:17
hajikiits not as fast as ram tho!11:17
IRCMonkeyyes, i know11:17
johnny_6699hi people just finshed using the howto11:17
johnny_6699dual boot11:17
IRCMonkeyif i have 1.5 GB ram, do i really need a swap partition ?11:18
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vitriolcan anyone tell me how to get flash working on amd64??11:18
hajikiyou dont 'need' it but its good to have it11:18
ThePyromaniacompaul nope that didnt work11:18
hajikii have 2GB of ram and use a 2GB swap11:19
BlejdfistIRCMonkey: the kernel can actually use the swap to improve performance even when you have free RAM11:19
BlejdfistIRCMonkey: but don't ask me how it works, it's magic to me :)11:19
vitriolIRCMonkey: do you use hibernate or suspend?11:19
ompaulThePyromaniac, what did you install and from which media?11:19
IRCMonkeyyes11:19
IRCMonkeya lot11:19
vitriolIRCMonkey: those things you use swap11:19
IRCMonkeyok11:19
pcharkyIRCMonkey: Ground, rule is swap = 2x phys. but i think you're fine with a 500M to 1G swap partition.11:19
hajikivitriol, sweet, now thats something i didnt know11:19
vitriolyep11:20
ThePyromaniacompauk, i dont understand. i had breezy working fine on a SATA II HD, i unplugged, took it to my girlfriends, didnt drop it or throw it on the floor and when i plug back in it dies11:20
vitriolcheck /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh11:20
IRCMonkeyso in addition to the 75 GB partition , i need 500M swap, and 5GB for the actual installation. is there any more i need?11:20
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ompaulThePyromaniac, and its on the same cables?11:20
hajikiThePyromaniac, did you plug your drive into her computer?11:20
ThePyromaniacompaul, same cable, same port. i tried changing the cable but no affect11:21
qmanman /topic11:21
vitriolIRCMonkey: i like to have a seperate /home to keep all of my stuff. it makes it easier to reinstall11:21
ThePyromaniacompaul, yes i did. i wanted to rip some of her CD's to ogg, but i forgot im on 64 bit shes on 3211:21
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pcharkyIRCMonkey: that's about it, if you want to use hibernate, your swap should be at least the same size as your physical memory.11:21
IRCMonkeyok11:21
tyler_durdenwhere do i find xorg.conf?11:21
Blejdfist/etc/X11/xorg.conf11:21
IRCMonkeyso i should make the 5GB a ext3, and 500M as swap?11:22
kevogodWhere does Evolution Data Server store its configuration files?11:22
pcharkykevogod: ~/.evolution11:22
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twystedThePyromaniac> it must have been somehow shocked or something to render it not able to work :(11:22
IRCMonkeythat would be the end of my annoying questions..:)11:22
ompaulThePyromaniac, I have no idea what that could have done to your disk11:22
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kevogodpcharky, No, it doesn't.11:22
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LoevborgBlejdfist knows the black magic to write lines that start with "/". Chapeau!11:22
kevogodpcharky, That is where Evolution stores it configuration.11:22
ompaulThePyromaniac, can you see the disk from the liveCD?11:22
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pcharkykevogod: sorry again.11:22
mylastmorninganyone know how to rename USB thumbdrives?11:23
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ThePyromaniachow would i do that?11:23
hajikidoes SATA automatically adjust to being master or slave? might he need to reset the jumpers?11:23
BlejdfistLoevborg: :P11:23
naliothhajiki: sata has no jumpers11:23
twystedsata runs its own channels11:23
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hajikinalioth, really? i thought mine did11:23
twysted 1 hdd per cable :)11:23
ompaulThePyromaniac, are you using the a 64bit live cd ?11:23
tyler_durdenok and i just installed nvidia-settings, but how do i use it now?11:23
kevogodI thought SATA had that one jumper.11:23
ThePyromaniacyes11:23
IRCMonkeyok im gonna try everything u guys told me to do11:23
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pcharkyIRCMonkey: good luck11:24
ompaulThePyromaniac, does it see the hard drive?11:24
twystedkevogod it might but i dont think its for M/S11:24
IRCMonkeyill be back to tell u how it went :)11:24
IRCMonkeyTHANKS!!!!11:24
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ThePyromaniacnope, it never does11:24
kevogodtwysted, Oh, not it's not for M/S.11:24
kevogod*no11:24
mylastmorningQUESTION: does anyone know how to rename drives?11:24
twystedThePyromaniac> when u plug it in i take it the bios doesnt even see it righto?11:24
tyler_durdenok and i just installed nvidia-settings, but how do i use it now?11:24
pcharkymylastmorning: What do you mean by "rename drives"11:25
ompaulThePyromaniac, okay stupid question can you check your power cable11:25
hajikimylastmorning, what do you mean rename drives11:25
mylastmorningpcharky, like a USB thumb drive11:25
Mustard5type sudo nvidia-settings in terminal11:25
ThePyromaniactwysted, thats the odd thing, right when it says "no valid device. please press any key to continue..." it says 1 - WDC bla bla bla (hard drive name)11:25
pcharkymylastmorning: what like it?11:25
mylastmorninghajiki like a USB thumb drive11:25
lsuactiafnermylastmorning : dont prephrase questions with QUESTION, a ? does he trick11:25
hajikimylastmorning, what name does it have now that you want to rename it to11:25
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ThePyromaniacompaul you mean my trusty lil molex?11:26
lsuactiafnermylastmorning : and you mount the drives @ a different place, look into /etc/fstab11:26
mylastmorninghajiki, its named as, 128, I want to rename it thumbdrive11:26
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twystedThePyromaniac> hmmm so it is seeing it, i wonder if somehow it messed up your mbr or something, i could maybe suggest doing an inplace reinstall and just tell ubuntu to NOT format11:26
pcharkymylastmorning: lsuactiafner has the answer11:26
ompaulaye is it anchored in a secure fashion on both ends11:26
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hajikimylastmorning, can you right click the icon on the desktop and select rename?11:27
tyler_durdenk now, i just installed my nvidia card but it looks like my refreish rate is set to about 60 because i see those lines all over moving, but its set to 75. how can i fix it?11:27
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hajikimylastmorning, if not do what lsuactiafner said, and look at /etc/fstab11:27
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jeff303can someone tell me which packages I need to get to see man pages for pthreads, and time.h?11:27
ThePyromaniactwysted, so reinstall and not format ANY partition? not even / ?11:27
jeff303I assume it's all in some core doc package11:27
twystedThePyromaniac> correct11:27
ThePyromaniactwysted ok thanks man11:27
lsuactiafnerif you want to rename a flash drive you need change the filesystem properties ect.. i dont recommend you screw around with it11:27
mylastmorningno hajiki11:27
twystedThePyromaniac> your welcome11:27
lsuactiafnerjeff303 : you should look on google11:28
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Blejdfistjeff303: manpages-dev maybe?11:28
tyler_durdenk now, i just installed my nvidia card but it looks like my refreish rate is set to about 60 because i see those lines all over moving, but its set to 75. how can i fix it?11:28
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Dreamgliderwhen ubuntu boot's is there a log file saved ?11:29
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Dreamglidera boot log file ?11:29
pcharkyDreamglider: dmesg11:29
shutson_Question: How do I mount an ext3 filesystem that I just creaded on a new HD?11:29
thewayofzenupgrading to BREEZY.. following the wiki in the topic.. last time i did it (two weeks ago) it broke EVERYTHING and i needed to reinstall.. any one have any tips?11:29
pcharkyDreamglider: and you can enable bootlogd by editing /etc/default/bootlogd11:30
twystedtyler_durden, sudo nvidia-settings11:30
thewayofzengetting alot of this :11:30
tyler_durdenwhat am i gonna do with that?11:30
mylastmorninglsuactiafner, when doing what you said, it only gives me the information and not the name of it.11:30
ompaulthewayofzen, no use pastebin11:30
tyler_durdenim talking about the refresh rate, it looks as if im at 60 because i see lines moving all around11:30
tyler_durdenbut its set on 75..11:30
thewayofzenok11:30
Mustard5tyler_durden, type it in your terminal11:30
kevogodtyler_durden, What is your resolution set to?11:30
twystedshutson_ 'sudo mount /dev/device /mnt/mountpoint11:31
tyler_durden1024 76811:31
ompaul!tell thewayofzen about paste11:31
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tyler_durdenmustard5 i did but there is nothing relevent there11:31
smaugslayeri just bought a new FP that has a native resolution of 1600x1200.  I using a Radeon 9600 that should be able to drive that resolution.  However, ubuntu is shoing 1280x1024 as max.  Any way to change this so I can run at native resol?  Thx for the help!!11:31
paulproteus|lapt!resolution11:31
uboturumour has it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:31
tyler_durdeni think u can change it at dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:31
smaugslayerthx, ill look11:31
tyler_durdenmark those 1600x? resolution there11:31
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Dreamgliderwhen it boot's and says it is "starting things ...... OK" i get two erroes but it goes so fast i cant read see what has an error11:32
twystedtyler_durden look at the url ubotu posted11:32
hajikismaugslayer, yes you probably just need to add that to /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:32
tyler_durdenoh im not identified11:32
tyler_durdenone sec11:32
thewayofzenhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/289011:32
thewayofzenthose errors look like bad to me11:32
thewayofzenor is that normal11:32
tyler_durdenok twysted can u tell the bot to send it again?11:32
twysted!ubotu tell tyler_durden about resolution11:33
Blejdfistthewayofzen: try running dpkg-reconfigure locales11:33
paulproteus|laptthewayofzen: It's not a big deal.11:33
paulproteus|laptthewayofzen: Wait until the end of your dist-upgrade.11:33
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paulproteus|laptRun perl.11:33
mylastmorninghajiki both didn't work.11:33
paulproteus|laptIf you still get the errors, *then* you should dpkg-reconfigure locales.11:33
mylastmorningdoes anyone know how to rename drives?11:33
tyler_durdenwhat could be causing those lines though? could it be the resfresh rate?11:34
mylastmorningdoes anyone know how to rename USB drives?11:34
Blejdfistyou could also run "locale" to see that it all looks ok11:34
naliothmylastmorning: since nobody is answering here, why not ask uncle google?11:34
mylastmorningnalioth, I only come here when all efforts have been lost ^_^11:35
pcharkymylastmorning: make a new mountpoint, and record the device in your /etc/fstab11:35
Mustard5mylastmorning, the name is dependant on the mountpoint I think...11:35
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mylastmorningpcharky I've tried that. I don't know what I'm doing all it says is this "/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0"11:35
mylastmorningI belive otherwise Mustard611:36
mylastmorningI belive otherwise Mustard511:36
pcharkymylastmorning: okay, type: mount11:36
thewayofzenpaulproteus,  how do i know which locales are the ones i want  ar_om.UTF.8 ?? that stuff looks foreign11:36
pcharkymylastmorning: paste the output at: pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl11:37
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holdenDoes anyone know where to get good video codecs? I can play most avi's and mpg's, but they look AWFUL, exactly as if I were recording them off a tv monitor with a handycam.11:37
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lsuactiafnerholden : because most of your avi and mpg are bad quality11:38
mylastmorningpcharky http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/289111:38
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lsuactiafnerholden : have you tried to play a dvd?11:38
holdenlsuactiafner, no, I mean, they play great on windows.11:38
pcharkymylastmorning: okay, open your /etc/fstab: sudo gedit /etc/fstab11:39
oxezmylastmorning: sudo vim /etc/fstab11:39
lsuactiafnerholden : what player are you using?11:39
oxezor, yea gedit11:39
Dreamgliderpcharky, ok i edited bootlogd and rebooted where is the bootlog saved ?11:39
holdenlsuactiafner, totem11:39
naliothubotu: tell holden about w32codecs11:39
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pcharkyDreamglider: check /var/log11:39
naliothuh oh11:39
pcharkyDreamglider: /var/log/boot11:39
lsuactiafnerholden : apt-cache search mplayer11:39
nalioth!test11:40
ubotuFailed.11:40
naliothcrap11:40
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{A|M}Ed_Geinneed help with a lost password(seriously) am I totaly screwed can I atleast access my grub config file with a knoppix live cd and get my dual boot info?11:40
lsuactiafnerholden : instal mplayer and those codecs montioned11:40
_jasondoes anyone know how to setup vlc to play wmv3 files?11:40
Jipjiphi guys does anyony here work with evolution and has a working junk filter. I installed spamassasin but it still does not  do anything.11:40
nalioth_jason: you are out of luck11:40
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lsuactiafnerubotu : who broke you?11:40
ubotulsuactiafner: Do they come in packets of five?11:40
holdenlsuactiafner, will do. I'll back :)...11:40
_jasonnalioth: I see... ok thanks11:40
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qmanmananyone running an ATI based laptop in here?11:41
mylastmorningok done pcharky11:41
pcharkymylastmorning: now, add a new line :/dev/sde1 /media/thumbdrive vfat user,rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077 0 011:41
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El_Cheqmanman: i do11:41
lsuactiafner{A|M}Ed_Gein : not sure if this works but @ grub menu type out the linux kernel name, Linux initrd=/bin/sh11:41
qmanmanEl_Che: hows it run?11:41
qmanmanEl_Che: what graphics card?11:42
ed_geinlsuactiafner: hmmmm11:42
_jasonnalioth:  I guess that can be my project for today ;)11:42
Loevborged_gein, not initrd, give it  "init=/bin/bash" on the grub command line11:42
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hajikii have an ati based laptop11:42
thewayofzentrying apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  before reboot into breezy11:42
thewayofzengetting this11:42
thewayofzenhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/289311:42
lsuactiafner{A|M}Ed_Gein : then it might boot you into a rootshell if it works like lilo, and then run passwd to change the passwd, tho... if all else fails replace the /etc/passwd and /ect/shadow root account with a copy of an account you know the passwd of11:42
thewayofzentried with synaptic and in terminal11:42
qmanmanhajiki: does it work well for you? what video card?11:42
El_Cheqmanman: the opensource driver works fine, but needed to install the one from ati in order to connect to a monitor using the digital port11:42
El_Cheqmanman: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 11:43
nalioththewayofzen: do you have backports in your sources.list?11:43
hajikiqmanman, it works ok,its a mobile 750011:43
nalioththewayofzen: or any unofficial repos?11:43
thewayofzennalioth,  all i have in my breezy list is the ones from the wiki11:43
thewayofzenthast it11:43
Loevborged_gein, I think you need to press "e" or sth like this with grub11:43
qmanmanEl_Che: sound and everything else runs fine?11:43
lsuactiafneris init= specific to grub?11:43
qmanmanhajiki: do you use the opensource driver?11:43
ed_geinlsuactiafner: there's only one account on the machine (mine) I had to install windows(prorpietary crap for school) and haven't booted linux for 2 months I can remeber the password just not what is upper or lower case11:43
mylastmorningthat just made it dissapear pcharky11:44
nalioththewayofzen: if you already upgraded your sources.list while using hoary, you are not gonna be able to install hoary ubuntu-desktop11:44
hajikiqmanman, yeah the default one11:44
pcharkymylastmorning: made what disappear?11:44
thewayofzennalioth, the only items in my sources.list are the ones pasted directly from the wiki11:44
mylastmorningthe thumb drive pcharky11:44
thewayofzennalioth,  the wiki says to install ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop11:44
thewayofzenbefore reboot11:44
nalioththewayofzen: if you are in hoary now, wanting to install hoarys ubuntu-desktop, you have to use hoarys sources.list11:44
pcharkymylastmorning: did you do other things beside what i told you?11:45
lsuactiafnered_gein : if you can get the /etc/showdow and /etc/passwd files and give me the passwd i can crack it quickly enough by trying brute force11:45
qmanmanhajiki: cool thanks, I ask because I'm looking at a laptop with an RX700 and I'm not sure about the ATI drivers at this point11:45
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lsuactiafnered_gein : will try john the ripper, just might work11:45
thewayofzennalioth,  even after ive switched the sources.list to the breezy ones for the upgrade?11:45
El_Cheqmanman: yep, but sound is not from ati11:45
lsuactiafnered_gein : but i think init=/bin/sh will work easier11:45
qmanmanmmm ok11:45
hajikiqmanman, i wanted to use the close sourced ATI ones but they dont seem to support my card11:45
nalioththewayofzen: you've got your machine trying to shove pkgs it cant use into your box11:45
thewayofzennalioth,  ive erased the hoary repos replaces with the breezy from the wiki.. done apt-get update.. then apt-get dist-upgrade11:45
El_Cheqmanman: every single piece of this laptop works, except a weird sd-card reader11:45
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ed_geinlet me track down a knoppix cd and see what I can come up with11:46
nalioththewayofzen: put your sources back to hoary if you want ubuntu-desktop now11:46
qmanmancool11:46
lsuactiafneror replacing the root account with root:$1$mWlMe5mq$iJUekgbrIoIF0xoHBXiSr/:13064:0:99999:7:::11:46
lsuactiafnerpasswd is qwerty11:46
El_Cheqmanman: it's a hp (there a special custom cd's from ubuntu)11:46
Jipjipqmanman X7oo is new and still not supported by the open-source driver11:46
nalioththewayofzen: otw, reboot into breezy and install ubuntu-desktop there11:46
tyler_durdenhow do i remove my old ati drivers?11:46
tonyyarussoI lost my cdrom drive.  How can I add it back so it's recognized?  When I try to mount, I get an error that special device /dev/scd0 does not exist.  What do I do?11:46
mylastmorningyes pcharky.11:46
thewayofzennalioth,  thats the asnwer i needed thanks.11:46
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Dreamgliderok at boot i get a error when "Setting up general font..." Error is "set_kernel_font: invalid argument"11:46
thewayofzenreboot to breezy then install11:46
thewayofzensorry11:46
qmanmanJipjip: yar, thats why I'm kinda of the fence since I'll nee to use ATI's driver11:46
naliothtyler_durden: sudo apt-get remove fgrlx or whatever the package is clled11:46
El_Cheqmanman: on the other hand, the same was true (working) for my former laptop, an ibm thinkpad t2311:46
lsuactiafnerand just so everyone knows my root passwd aint qwerty and the gateway blocks access to this pc..11:47
tyler_durden=/ i dont know what its called lol11:47
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ed_geinwtf is dinging11:47
Dreamglideranyone able to help me with that !11:47
pcharkymylastmorning: sudo mkdir /media/thumbdrive11:47
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Jipjipqmanman . they will probably be there quickly11:47
qmanmanI hope11:47
ed_geinwtf is dinging11:47
tyler_durdenhow do i enable num lock by default?11:47
Pajjdoes anyone know a good deskcam type program? like auto capture every x seconds and auto ftp uload11:47
El_Cheqmanman: i had beter experience with the ati driver from ati (they have an gui installer) than the one in the ubuntu repository11:47
tonyyarussoIs there a way to manually add a special device to fix that?11:47
lsuactiafneri think he wants to rename the device not the mount point.. but anyways..11:47
qmanmanEl_Che: yeah thats what the forums seem to tell me11:48
lsuactiafnered_gein : mind the language11:48
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El_Cheqmanman: ah, ok, didn't know that11:48
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lsuactiafnerso do you want me to crack or it will you follow the init=/bin/sh advice?11:48
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ed_geingonna try the init advice first11:48
qmanmanEl_Che:http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1683411519611:48
thomas_is it possible to enable usplash for a vanilla kernel?11:48
tyler_durdennalioth, i didnt install my ati with apt-get11:49
flamdo i need the dm_mod module in the kernel? mkinitramfs warns me that i haven't got it when i make myself a new initrd img11:49
tyler_durdeni installed it using the gui installer from ati11:49
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tonyyarussoIt's obviously still recognized by the BIOS and such, and still spins up when a CD is inserted, but linux won't see the drive.11:49
Skapareso what is the ultimate advantage of Ubuntu over Debian for a desktop?11:49
qmanmanEl_Che: this one I'm looking at is pretty much all ATI based.......11:49
ed_geinits a 16 digit alpha numeric password it might take a bit11:49
ed_geinhopefully11:49
lsuactiafnerok but priv msg me if you dont get it correct, i'll check logs later, afk11:49
naliothtyler_durden: remove it in the reverse of the way you installed it11:49
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ed_geincool11:49
Mustard5Skapare, the name is cooler :)11:49
tyler_durdeni installed it using terminal with sh /. blah11:49
naliothSkapare: newer packages11:49
tyler_durdenhow do i remove that?11:49
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lsuactiafnerSkapare : ubuntu is more suited for the desktop11:50
SkapareMustard5: the name is just as long11:50
mylastmorninghow do you remove grub loader?11:50
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none_-Skapare, gauranteed release cycle11:50
lsuactiafnermylastmorning : you dont.11:50
wantedhelp11:50
mylastmorninglsuactiafner, I have to11:50
ngdmylastmorning: you dont11:50
Skaparelsuactiafner: people say that, but in what way?11:50
mylastmorningngd I have to11:50
ngdmylastmorning: or you do it damn carefully11:50
naliothmylastmorning: with a win98 boot disk11:50
ngdmylastmorning: why?11:50
El_Cheqmanman: are you buying online?11:50
lsuactiafnermylastmorning : without grub you cant boot your pc, you dont remove kernels either since you dont know what you are doing11:50
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El_Cheqmanman: otherwise, a live-cd will tell you a lot11:50
lsuactiafnermylastmorning : if you want linux to work you dont.11:50
Skaparenalioth: so it's more up to date than Debian, at least for desktop stuff?11:50
anethemaanyone know if there is a easy way to get rlocate instead of slocate working in ubuntu ?11:50
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qmanmanEl_Che: yeah I think I'm getting it from newegg11:50
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lsuactiafnerSkapare : packages are newer and made for desktops.11:51
mik__hi all11:51
mylastmorninglsuactiafner... I need to! because I installed it on someone's PC and now they don't want linux so they're going back to windows.11:51
epHow can I verify that I'm not running the ntp dameon?11:51
qmanmanEl_Che: I think COMPUSE has acer, going to see if they have it11:51
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qmanmanerr COMPUSA11:51
nalioth Skapare yes, from a users viewpoint it is more up to date (plus 6 month release cycles)11:51
mylastmorningnalioth, would a windows 2000 CD work?11:51
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mik__i'm french and i want help11:51
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lsuactiafnermylastmorning : just install windows over linux11:51
anethemaep, : do a: ps ax | grep ntpd11:51
Skaparenalioth: you mean like it doesn't drag on for years like Debian?11:51
khaledmylastmorning:  which version of windows11:51
lsuactiafnermylastmorning : or make windows 'repair' the boot sector11:51
anethemaif it shows up, its running11:51
mylastmorningI tried that lsuactiafner, it's still their.11:51
paul_hello nick I m french too11:51
naliothSkapare: exactly11:51
lsuactiafnertho i have no idea how windows works..11:51
mik__i wanna install steam for play counter strike in ubuntu11:51
mylastmorningits XP11:52
Skaparenalioth: and has 2 major releases a year like Slackware?11:52
lsuactiafnermaster boot record. not jsut the boot sector..11:52
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mats_cedega does it11:52
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mats_mik__: install cedega11:52
Skaparenalioth: and OpenBSD :)11:52
dell500does anyone else have a problem with GAIM quitting out of nowhere?11:52
khaledmylastmorning: do you have the xp cd?11:52
paul_i m sorry je sais pas.11:52
tyler_durdenhow do i remove an item from the application menu? i cant through application menu editor, it didnt come with ubuntu11:52
Mustard5dell500, no11:52
mats_dell500: no :)11:52
qmanmanlastmorning: win200 CD will work11:52
tyler_durdeni mean the item in the menu didnt come with ubuntu11:52
naliothSkapare: yup. visit www.ubuntulinux.org and/or wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation11:52
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qmanmanlastmorning: yse the "recovery console" option and type "fixmbr"11:53
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GhostFreemanhow can I find out my system_username from bash?11:53
anethemasometimes when i refresh the gnome-panel gaim quit11:53
anethemas11:53
lsuactiafnerSkapare : but slackware doesnt have packages, but i'm not saying ubuntu is better than slackware, ubuntu is better suited to the lazy and the noobs and ppl with no tech ability11:53
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twystedslackware has packages11:53
qmanmanlastmorning: XP works same way11:53
Skaparelsuactiafner: slackware has packages ... I've installed them11:53
naliothlsuactiafner: i resent that remark. ubuntu is good for everyone11:53
anethematwysted, yeah but no real good pkg managment11:53
lsuactiafnerSkapare : and desktop users.. i fall into the lazy part, tho my system is a hyrbid ubuntu and slackware11:53
lsuactiafnertwysted : package manager11:53
hwaaraeveryone, in which package are the strings for the ubuntu installer?11:53
anethemaits certainly not apt11:53
iafdit doesn't have automated dependency stuff, though11:53
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iafdplus11:53
Mercutio150ok can somone tell me what applications is suppossed to run MP3's??11:53
mik__i've installed cedega but the steam say i haven't activeX installed for my bronwser11:53
twystedi like slackwares pkg management yes i cant APTget files but wgetting them does the same thing :D11:54
Mustard5Mercutio150, XMMS11:54
iafdmost of the packages you get (off linuxpackages.com, or whatever?) are unofficila, if I recall correctly.11:54
lsuactiafnernalioth : ubuntu is a better desktop11:54
Skapareiafd: true ... but that's not a selling point for me11:54
mats_Mercutio150: you need gstreamer0.8-mad to play mp3s11:54
khaledmylastmorning:  if you have a winxp cd, then, boot to it, choose recovery console, enter the admin passwd, and then type fixboot11:54
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tyler_durdenso no one knows how to remove an item from the application menu?11:54
Mercutio150does it come in the Ubuntu package?11:54
twystedyes because its all 3rd party software11:54
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anethemai used slack from like 1996 or so till i installed ubuntu a few months ago..i can say i like ubuntu MUCH better even though i know my linux pretty good11:54
iafdpretty much everything on linux is third part.11:54
Mercutio150how do I get that?11:54
iafd*party11:54
malvis there a trick to get the totem mozilla plugin working correctly?11:54
Skapareiafd: I get the packages in the official Slackware distribution, and anything else I compile from source anyway11:54
lsuactiafnernalioth : but i still think slackware is more solid and predictable, but ubuntu comes pretty close. remember slackware is more like unix and freebsd than other linuxes11:54
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malvit plays for half a second and stops11:54
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Mustard5Mercutio150, yes..use synaptic11:54
mats_Mercutio150: no :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia?highlight=%28media%2911:55
iafdmakes sense.11:55
twystedi do ubuntu for all my servers, slackware for desktop11:55
anethematwysted, you dont find that a little backwards?11:55
Blejdfistmalv: yes, uninstall it and use the mplayer-plugin instead :P11:55
iafdi much prefer slacks rc stuff, though11:55
anethemaheheh11:55
naliothlsuactiafner: that is not in dispute, but i'm neither lazy, a n00b and i have over 10 years of using linux behind me11:55
khaledmylastmorning: if win does boot from grub, just type fixmbr11:55
lsuactiafnerSkapare : i used to run slackware but now i run ubuntu, before ubuntu i used slackware for 4 years11:55
Skaparetwysted: that sounds twisted to me :)11:55
twystedhehe11:55
anethemaiafd, i also MUCH MUCH prefer slacks rc stuff11:55
lsuactiafneri still make my own kernerls and mplayer ect11:55
mats_Mercutio150: "MP3: Due to licensing restrictions, MP3 support couldn't be included by default in Ubuntu. To enable MP3 support you need to install gstreamer0.8-mad which is included in the Universe repository." -- its all on the page ;)11:55
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twystedits just personal preference my friend is just like that as well hehe11:55
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Skaparetwysted: it seems like slackware for servers and ubuntu for desktop would be the way to go11:55
lsuactiafnerwell i use ubuntu because i'm lazy and has offical 64bit support11:55
Mercutio150ok thanks, don't suppose you konw anything about ati drivers??11:56
lsuactiafnerand its better desktop11:56
twystedmeh11:56
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iafdi would use freebsd or slack if I had the choice. on a server.11:56
anethemaSkapare, you ever use rlocate?11:56
lsuactiafnerso it depends on your needs.11:56
TheRedCheesehi11:56
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Skapareanethema: heh ... I actual write my own rc system entire from scratch11:56
lsuactiafnerboth distrobutions are close to being perfect11:56
Skapareanethema: nope, never used rlocate11:56
mats_Mercutio150: bring the question ;) if i cant answer, maby some one else can11:56
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twystedwell i use ubuntu because it is debian based, its easy to update, hell my is (xmission.com) uses debian on almost 90% of theyre servers11:56
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il_padrinoi need help11:56
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lsuactiafnerSkapare : same11:56
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naliothil_padrino: ask11:57
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mats_il_padrino: ok?11:57
Mercutio150well I've been wrestling with drivers for my ati radeon 7000 vid card11:57
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il_padrinoi have a nvidia (and breezy)11:57
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il_padrinoi can't install the driver of nvidia.com11:57
Skaparebeing able to update with source code is what is really important to me, but principly for servers11:57
ngdhas anyone tried replacing the boot system on Ubuntu to try and tweak some speed out of the thing11:57
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Mercutio150I had one site but I get past some of it11:57
lsuactiafneril_padrino : because you dont have build-essentials installed.11:57
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il_padrinothe msg say that i have gcc-4.011:58
iafdi dunno if it's the system so much as the amount of stuff?11:58
Dreamgliderok at boot i get a error when "Setting up general font..." Error is "set_kernel_font: invalid argument" can anyone help ?11:58
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il_padrinobut the gcc of my kernel is gcc-3.4 :S11:58
naliothDreamglider: install more fonts11:58
Skapareeven with slackware, I uninstall (or just don't install to begin with) the major programs like apache, etc ... and install them by grabbing latest source and compiling them11:58
lsuactiafnerSkapare : i run a slackware server also, feels more secure since i know slackware better.11:58
ctwHi! Is there a way to install the latest realplayer version with apt-get or dpkg (i.e. is there a .deb file available)?11:58
Skaparelsuactiafner: I know the feeling11:58
naliothubotu: tell ctw about realplayer11:58
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lsuactiafnerSkapare : but you should really give ubuntu the benefit of the doubt11:59
Skaparelsuactiafner: but for having a CD to quickly install a desktop for someone, I think maybe Ubuntu will work out better11:59
mats_ctw: you need codecs ;)11:59
lsuactiafnerSkapare : i'm glad i switched my dekstop over to ubuntu11:59
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ctwI'm using breezy by the way ...11:59
naliothctw: ubotu sent you a msg11:59
Skaparelsuactiafner: but what I am interested in is how I might be able to adapt Ubuntu to being server grade11:59

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