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| tenco | adept is really ugly. sorry, i just updated to breezy and adept is a real memory-hog: res 64 megs! | 12:27 |
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| TokenBad | anyone know why kopete crashes? | 12:27 |
| TokenBad | and when is the full version of breezy out...it still not out till 13th? | 12:28 |
| tenco | synaptic is still king | 12:30 |
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| tenco | way easier to use | 12:30 |
| TokenBad | agree tenco | 12:31 |
| _kay | hey there, anybody else got a problem with wpa_supplicant upgrade in breezy? | 12:31 |
| TokenBad | any idea why kopete crashes? | 12:31 |
| _kay | I cannot parse my config anymore, it always complains about the closing brace of the network={ block | 12:31 |
| tenco | the adept gui is really overloaded and search capabilities are limited | 12:32 |
| Ninjew | aptitude for life | 12:33 |
| jmg | guys i am looking for a good color scheme for kubuntu | 12:33 |
| jmg | that looks nice on 1024x768 with a dark background and white on black editors | 12:33 |
| jmg | but wont make my head explode looking at web pages | 12:33 |
| TokenBad | I do my own backgrounds | 12:33 |
| jmg | so do i | 12:34 |
| TokenBad | but for the rest of the stuff i went defaults | 12:34 |
| jmg | default doesnt work | 12:35 |
| TokenBad | did for me | 12:36 |
| TokenBad | but thats just me | 12:36 |
| TokenBad | my backgrounds and stuff..you can get from tokenart.deviantart.com | 12:36 |
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| Mystique | hello all | 12:39 |
| Mystique | I have a problem installing libdvdcss2 | 12:39 |
| Mystique | it complains about libc6 | 12:40 |
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| Mystique | how might I possibly go about dealing w/ that? | 12:40 |
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| mekgp | anybody know of a way to "acquire" libcurl.so.2??? | 12:41 |
| frank23 | mekgp: thats an older version | 12:46 |
| frank23 | mekgp: what program do you need it for? maybe you can compile it yourself | 12:46 |
| mekgp | yep....application i run still needs it :( | 12:46 |
| mekgp | flight sim engine...wont be able to compile it | 12:47 |
| frank23 | .... I see ;-) | 12:47 |
| mekgp | darn dependencies anyway... :( | 12:47 |
| mekgp | cant that file be found somewhere and copied into where I need it???? | 12:49 |
| frank23 | probably | 12:49 |
| mekgp | going to goooogle me self to death! :D | 12:50 |
| ctw | FYI: I manged to install RealPlayer with the info provided here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats | 12:50 |
| frank23 | mekgp: It's very possible that its not the only library you will need though | 12:51 |
| ctw | does anybody here have an HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop with working suspend to disk/ram in breezy? | 12:51 |
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| penguinboy | what is the difference between stattic and dynamic ip | 12:52 |
| frank23 | penguinboy: with a dynamip IP, you get a new one everytime you connect | 12:54 |
| penguinboy | thanks | 12:54 |
| mornfall | ad tenco, what a moron | 12:55 |
| TokenBad | any idea why kopete crashes? | 12:56 |
| TokenBad | and when is the full version of breezy out...it still not out till 13th? | 12:57 |
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| satafterh | I am having issues sharing folders on home network? is there a bug or is it me?? | 12:59 |
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| kairu0 | hi all | 01:07 |
| penguinboy | hey | 01:08 |
| kairu0 | hey | 01:08 |
| kairu0 | howzit | 01:08 |
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| cyne | satafterh: what 'issues'? | 01:16 |
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| jmg | how come some stuff doesnt seem to obey icon settings | 01:23 |
| kairu0 | any users of SCIM UIM or IIIMF? | 01:26 |
| jmg | scim uim? | 01:27 |
| kairu0 | these are input methods | 01:27 |
| kairu0 | scim,uim,iiimf | 01:28 |
| jmg | oh | 01:28 |
| jmg | not me obviously | 01:28 |
| kairu0 | ok | 01:29 |
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| TokenBad | I don't get icons for anything I install | 01:36 |
| TokenBad | I installed gaim | 01:37 |
| TokenBad | no icon | 01:37 |
| TokenBad | I installed azureus | 01:37 |
| TokenBad | no icon | 01:37 |
| hippie | how to install flash player for amd64? | 01:37 |
| Tm_T | TokenBad: run kappfinder | 01:37 |
| Tm_T | TokenBad: those what you installed are not kde apps | 01:38 |
| TokenBad | ok...I ran it..said was added...when checked..still don't see them | 01:39 |
| TokenBad | do I need to refresh something? | 01:41 |
| TokenBad | like kde? | 01:41 |
| Tm_T | TokenBad: add them manually? | 01:45 |
| TokenBad | is there a way to reload kde like gnome without reloading? | 01:46 |
| Tm_T | why you should do that? | 01:47 |
| TokenBad | to see if the icons show then | 01:48 |
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| othernoob | reload without reloading..interesting concept .. | 01:55 |
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| kairu0 | damn japanese input | 02:06 |
| kairu0 | i cant get it going in kubuntu | 02:06 |
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| TokenBad | well mean without rebooting | 02:14 |
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| canllaith | Gday! could someone in here tell me where lspci resides on a default kbuntu install? :) | 02:27 |
| cyne | canllaith: open a konqueror window and type it in the search box :) | 02:28 |
| canllaith | cyne: I don't use kubuntu. | 02:28 |
| canllaith | I'm writing an article where I say 'type /sbin/lspci' and I'd like to make sure the instructions work on all the major distros. | 02:28 |
| cyne | one moment | 02:28 |
| cyne | on mine i have /usr/bin/lspci | 02:29 |
| cyne | also a symlink to it @ /bin/lspci | 02:30 |
| canllaith | Interesting! | 02:31 |
| canllaith | Is it also in /sbin ? | 02:31 |
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| PeerSoft | sup ;] | 02:31 |
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| miguelo | hola | 02:35 |
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| Tm_T | ooh | 02:41 |
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| jadugarr84 | does anyone here use breezy and baghira? | 02:52 |
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| Riddell | please test KDE 3.4.3 deb http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde343 breezy main | 03:14 |
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| FractuS | I've the 3.4.2 full and runs [OK] | 03:16 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu:seth_k|lappy] : http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/breezy-release-candidate.php | test adept (in Breezy) (apt-get dist-upgrade if you don't have it) | Nederlands #kubuntu-nl Espaol #kubuntu-es Deutsch #kubuntu-de Italiano #kubuntu-it | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Don't flood the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | Test KDE 3.4.3 = deb http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde343 breezy main | ||
| N17R0 | ok I go test it | 03:19 |
| N17R0 | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_%7ejr_kde343_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 03:21 |
| seth_k|lappy | apt-get update | 03:22 |
| seth_k|lappy | or Reload in (k|s)ynaptic | 03:22 |
| N17R0 | opps yeah :P | 03:22 |
| seth_k|lappy | lol | 03:22 |
| N17R0 | rofl | 03:22 |
| FractuS | wats the repository to Firefox? | 03:22 |
| seth_k|lappy | it's in universe | 03:23 |
| N17R0 | I will only test kde-base for you :) | 03:23 |
| seth_k|lappy | kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list @ FractuS | 03:23 |
| seth_k|lappy | and then uncomment the universe lines | 03:23 |
| FractuS | seth_k|lappy: yes.. but giveme a URL | 03:23 |
| seth_k|lappy | FractuS, it's already in the sources.list. Just commented out | 03:24 |
| FractuS | i tink that it is in multiverse | 03:24 |
| seth_k|lappy | no | 03:24 |
| seth_k|lappy | it's in universe | 03:24 |
| FractuS | the 1.0.7 version does't here | 03:25 |
| seth_k|lappy | 1.0.7 is in hoary-updates universe, yes? | 03:25 |
| seth_k|lappy | er, I dunno if hoary ever got a real 1.0.7 | 03:25 |
| seth_k|lappy | might just be backported security fixes | 03:25 |
| N17R0 | I had FF 1.0.7 on hoary | 03:25 |
| N17R0 | brb | 03:27 |
| gdh | are the 1.0.x series anything but security fixes? | 03:27 |
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| seth_k|lappy | nope | 03:30 |
| seth_k|lappy | just security | 03:30 |
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| N17R0 | ok so far KDE 3.4.3 is running well :P | 03:31 |
| FractuS | ok. thanks | 03:32 |
| FractuS | bye everybody | 03:32 |
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| N17R0 | ohh man | 03:39 |
| Riddell | N17R0: cool | 03:40 |
| Riddell | N17R0: oh man? | 03:40 |
| N17R0 | still that bug ind KDE 3.4.3, u know when u start kynaptic, then it is loading in the taskbar, and after a few seconds it exits | 03:40 |
| Riddell | I don't know that bug, but I recommend using adept | 03:40 |
| Tm_T | I recommed it too | 03:41 |
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| Flying_Eagle | hi | 03:42 |
| N17R0 | adept? I usually use synaptic, but will have a look at adept thx | 03:42 |
| Flying_Eagle | my kubuntu-amd64-breezy-rc wont let me get superuser-rights. is this a known problem? | 03:42 |
| Riddell | Flying_Eagle: when doing what? | 03:43 |
| Flying_Eagle | something within the gethostnamebyxxx()-function (should have written it down) | 03:43 |
| Flying_Eagle | Riddell, trying sudo or su or whatever related to root | 03:43 |
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| Flying_Eagle | (i know that there is no "root" by default) | 03:45 |
| Riddell | Flying_Eagle: I've not heard of that before | 03:45 |
| Flying_Eagle | :( | 03:45 |
| Flying_Eagle | ill try the 32bit-version... | 03:45 |
| Flying_Eagle | ...or wait | 03:46 |
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| Flying_Eagle | well. know that i know, that i cant fix it myself, ill go to bed. byebye | 03:48 |
| N17R0 | Riddell: Did u never seen that when u run a application in KDE which ask for root password, it just wont load the first or second time, but after another try it will finally execute? | 03:50 |
| Riddell | N17R0: is it kdesu or sudo you are having problems with? | 03:50 |
| N17R0 | well the progs which I execute via kde-menu use kdesu | 03:51 |
| Riddell | yes | 03:52 |
| N17R0 | I have had this behavior alot of times on Hoary, and now im on Breezy I have the same | 03:52 |
| N17R0 | I think this is the same bug which dont let u run the Administrator mode in kcontrol | 03:53 |
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| _root | is any body outthere who can help me | 04:11 |
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| TokenBad | hmmm | 04:11 |
| TokenBad | where the hell did apt-get install azureus to | 04:11 |
| seth_k|lappy | azureus is in hoary-extras | 04:12 |
| N17R0 | in ur internet menu | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | _root: shoot | 04:12 |
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| TokenBad | its not there | 04:12 |
| Lord_Athur | Hi | 04:12 |
| TokenBad | I installed it | 04:12 |
| TokenBad | but its not listed | 04:12 |
| N17R0 | lol | 04:12 |
| N17R0 | hmm | 04:12 |
| jago | i am not able too log in as any body other than root whats rong | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | TokenBad: use kappfinder to find it? | 04:13 |
| TokenBad | I tried that | 04:13 |
| TokenBad | it didn't find it | 04:13 |
| N17R0 | I installed Azureus.deb from the website | 04:13 |
| apokryphos | seth_k|lappy: there's a kdm theme manager, btw, on kdelook =) | 04:13 |
| jago | this is root i changed my id | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | apokryphos: yes, but does it work? | 04:13 |
| TokenBad | Building dependency tree... Done | 04:13 |
| TokenBad | azureus is already the newest version. | 04:13 |
| TokenBad | so its installed | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | TokenBad: run it from the run command? | 04:14 |
| TokenBad | but its not in my home dir either | 04:14 |
| TokenBad | tried | 04:14 |
| TokenBad | said it wasn't found | 04:14 |
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| seth_k|lappy | apokryphos, yeah, I meant to try it sometime :D | 04:15 |
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| N17R0 | TokenBad: typ "which azureus" in konsole | 04:15 |
| N17R0 | what does it tell us then? | 04:16 |
| TokenBad | /usr/bin/azureus | 04:16 |
| TokenBad | why would it install there? | 04:16 |
| TokenBad | thats weird | 04:16 |
| N17R0 | lol | 04:16 |
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| N17R0 | so it wont run if u just typ "azureus" in konsole? | 04:16 |
| TokenBad | nope | 04:16 |
| N17R0 | do u have sun-java installed? | 04:17 |
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| TokenBad | yes | 04:18 |
| N17R0 | hmm | 04:19 |
| TokenBad | azureus: No such file or directory | 04:19 |
| TokenBad | I went to the dir | 04:19 |
| TokenBad | and typed it | 04:19 |
| TokenBad | it ran | 04:19 |
| N17R0 | ok | 04:19 |
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| === apokryphos recommends KTorrent | ||
| N17R0 | then u could make a new menu entry for azureus, and tell it to execute command: /usr/bin/azureus | 04:20 |
| TokenBad | how make it...just on the desktop? | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | or in your kmenu | 04:21 |
| N17R0 | right click on the big blua K | 04:21 |
| N17R0 | yep kmenu | 04:21 |
| N17R0 | menu editor | 04:21 |
| TokenBad | then what? | 04:21 |
| N17R0 | right to floppy icon> new item | 04:22 |
| N17R0 | typ Azureus | 04:22 |
| N17R0 | then by the "Command" field you typ: /usr/bin/azureus | 04:22 |
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| N17R0 | u could also search for the azureus icon | 04:23 |
| N17R0 | and then save ;) | 04:23 |
| TokenBad | ahh ok | 04:23 |
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| McScruff | lo | 04:43 |
| McScruff | on a storage hdd (mounted at /Storage) it has a .Trash-0 folder how can i delete this | 04:45 |
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| N17R0 | sudo rm -rf .Trash-0 | 04:47 |
| McScruff | what does the rf do? | 04:49 |
| N17R0 | uhm some kind of force | 04:49 |
| N17R0 | it will be wiped completely | 04:50 |
| N17R0 | rm --help | 04:50 |
| N17R0 | -r, -R, --recursive remove the contents of directories recursively | 04:50 |
| McScruff | ty | 04:50 |
| N17R0 | -f, --force ignore nonexistent files, never prompt | 04:51 |
| McScruff | worked a treat | 04:52 |
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| labkom | hallo | 05:02 |
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| jump_ez | coba | 05:03 |
| jump_ez | thrt | 05:03 |
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| _dennis | am i in yet | 05:23 |
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| kairu0 | any SKIM users? | 05:26 |
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| philipacamaniac | Riddell | 05:32 |
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| Riddell | philipacamaniac: | 05:32 |
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| philipacamaniac | Where's the KDE 3.4.3 info page (changes and such)? | 05:32 |
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| Riddell | http://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_4_2to3_4_3.php | 05:33 |
| philipacamaniac | Those are so hard to find. :) Thanks! | 05:33 |
| RezDawg | Let me state the obvious, Im a windows user trying to learn linux. | 05:34 |
| Riddell | well it hasn't been released yet | 05:34 |
| RezDawg | I used kynaptic to install firefox but i dont see it in the K menu | 05:34 |
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| philipacamaniac | Riddell: good point. | 05:35 |
| RezDawg | can anyone tell me how to get firefox to show up in K menu? | 05:40 |
| philipacamaniac | RezDawg: right click the KMenu button and choose "Menu Editor" | 05:41 |
| RezDawg | ty | 05:45 |
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| Cosmos | Hello | 05:47 |
| RezDawg | So when I add applications from kynaptic it dont automaticly add them the the K menu. Is there a setting that will do that? | 05:47 |
| Cosmos | I'm looking for a KDE image manipulation program. I've tried Kirta but that seems more for painting than for manipulating. Any ideas? | 05:47 |
| RezDawg | im new to linux, but gimp is like photoshop | 05:48 |
| Cosmos | Yeah good program, but I wanted to see whether there were any KDE alternatives before I jumped to GIMP | 05:49 |
| RezDawg | well im new to Kubuntu, just installed it half an hour ago, so im not the one to ask | 05:49 |
| Cosmos | Welcome to Kubuntu :) | 05:50 |
| RezDawg | thank you | 05:50 |
| Cosmos | How long have you been a Linux user for? | 05:50 |
| RezDawg | couple weeks | 05:50 |
| RezDawg | this is my second distro to try | 05:50 |
| Cosmos | Yeah great fun. Just stay in there, first few weeks are hard until you get used to the environment. Then you'll never want to go back :) | 05:50 |
| Cosmos | Cool, what was your first? | 05:50 |
| Cosmos | Let me guess.. Suse? | 05:50 |
| RezDawg | ark linux | 05:50 |
| Cosmos | Damn :P | 05:50 |
| RezDawg | i like ark and it uses KDE but it couldnt resolve my nvidia 3D accel problems | 05:51 |
| Cosmos | I'm going to move completely away from Windows at the end of this year, some of the programs we use at school require me to have Windows running | 05:51 |
| RezDawg | so I looked for another KDE distro | 05:51 |
| Cosmos | Good choice. Before Kubuntu I was a GNOME fan | 05:52 |
| RezDawg | well im only used to ark so im kinda confused | 05:52 |
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| RezDawg | I would like to move away froms windows myself | 05:53 |
| RezDawg | Cosmos: so you have been using linux for awhile? | 05:54 |
| Cosmos | About 3 years now, but only about 6 months has been serious :) | 05:55 |
| RezDawg | which distro have you used before and why did you leave? | 05:57 |
| Cosmos | The first distro I used seriously was Suse, then I moved to Slackware... from there for about the next 2 years I just experimented with different distros, until at the start of this year I started using Debian on the server. Since then that's stuck (and I doubt that'll change). I stumbled across Kubuntu about 6 months ago and I've stuck with that since then | 06:00 |
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| Cosmos | Before Kubuntu was Ubuntu, and before that was Debian (for the desktop) | 06:00 |
| RezDawg | do you know of a game that is 3D so I can test to see if the drivers here work with my vid card | 06:02 |
| Cosmos | Tux Racer | 06:02 |
| RezDawg | I used tuxracer on ark and dont see it here | 06:02 |
| Cosmos | It should be, try: apt-cache search tuxracer, or apt-cache search racer | 06:02 |
| RezDawg | hmm on luck | 06:04 |
| Cosmos | Hm... | 06:04 |
| Cosmos | Oh wait, which repositories are you using? | 06:05 |
| RezDawg | how do i know that? | 06:05 |
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| Cosmos | open up: /etc/apt/sources.list in your fav text editor | 06:06 |
| Cosmos | And if you want, just PM me the output | 06:06 |
| chavo | look for ppracer | 06:06 |
| chavo | tuxracer isn't developed any further. Please run 'ppracer' instead. | 06:07 |
| Cosmos | Ah that explains it :P | 06:07 |
| satafterh | KDE 3.4.3 stable?? | 06:08 |
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| chavo | satafterh, well as soon as it's released yes | 06:09 |
| RezDawg | shut down wrong window | 06:09 |
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| Cosmos | RezDawg, if you missed what chavo said: "tuxracer isn't developed any further. Please run 'ppracer' instead." | 06:12 |
| RezDawg | i looked for ppracer also | 06:13 |
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| RezDawg | maybe its which repository im pointing at? | 06:13 |
| Cosmos | Do you have the "universe" one commented (does it have a "#" in front?) | 06:15 |
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| RezDawg | i had to reg my nick to pm you | 06:17 |
| RezDawg | ill send it to you now | 06:17 |
| Cosmos | Is there a universe part to that? | 06:20 |
| RezDawg | yes the universe does have # in front of it | 06:20 |
| Cosmos | RezDawg, post in here: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/ | 06:20 |
| Cosmos | Okay, delete the "#" | 06:20 |
| RezDawg | do i need to put # in front of the other one? | 06:24 |
| Cosmos | Nope | 06:24 |
| Cosmos | Now just make sure to apt-get update | 06:24 |
| RezDawg | permission denied | 06:25 |
| RezDawg | is there a super user termial | 06:25 |
| Cosmos | Just: sudo apt-get update | 06:26 |
| RezDawg | i did a apt-cache search for ppracer nothing but when i did one for tuxracer it found one | 06:28 |
| Cosmos | cool | 06:29 |
| Cosmos | Or Kool :P | 06:32 |
| RezDawg | got tuxracer to work but no sound | 06:32 |
| RezDawg | i cant buy a break | 06:32 |
| crimsun | stop arts/esd before playing tuxracer | 06:33 |
| RezDawg | how do i bring up he alsa mixer again? | 06:33 |
| RezDawg | *the | 06:34 |
| Cosmos | the graphical interface, or the one that runs in the terminal? | 06:34 |
| RezDawg | well i have audigy2 zs | 06:35 |
| RezDawg | so i think i need the terminal one | 06:35 |
| Cosmos | Oh nice | 06:35 |
| RezDawg | well in ark i did at least | 06:35 |
| RezDawg | i was told since KDE 3.2 you cant use alsa | 06:36 |
| RezDawg | its alsamixer not alsa mixer like i was typing | 06:38 |
| crimsun | you don't necessarily need alsamixer | 06:39 |
| crimsun | you can use any mixer | 06:39 |
| RezDawg | well im new to linux and a guy with audigy2 like mine told me this. so this is all i have to go on | 06:40 |
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| RezDawg | *sigh* | 06:46 |
| RezDawg | no sound | 06:46 |
| RezDawg | let me go look on kubuntu website | 06:46 |
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| abhayks | has anyone tried arch linux-- I am at present testing it on my thinkpad | 06:51 |
| RezDawg | the documentation isnt up on the site | 06:54 |
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| RezDawg | anyone have a audigy2 zs that can help me get mine working | 06:55 |
| philipacamaniac | RezDawg: I've got an Audigy2 platinum - but I don't remember having to any fancy business to get it working | 06:55 |
| philipacamaniac | !nosound | 06:56 |
| ubotu | philipacamaniac: Are you on ritalin? | 06:56 |
| philipacamaniac | !sound problems | 06:56 |
| ubotu | philipacamaniac: Syntax error in line 1 | 06:56 |
| philipacamaniac | !sound | 06:56 |
| ubotu | methinks sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary | 06:56 |
| philipacamaniac | I'm not sure I like the bot, and I don't think he likes me | 06:56 |
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| RezDawg | well i cant say if im ritalin, im not familiar with what that is | 06:58 |
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| seth_k|lappy | ritalin is a drug to treat hyperactivity | 06:59 |
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| seth_k|lappy | RezDawg, btw, I have an audigy2 zs | 07:01 |
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| RezDawg | okay i open alsamixer and some stuff was muted so i unmuted everything and now it works | 07:03 |
| RezDawg | thanks for the help guys, be patient, im a noob | 07:03 |
| seth_k|lappy | yeah | 07:03 |
| seth_k|lappy | it's the analog / digital out | 07:03 |
| seth_k|lappy | gotta unmute it | 07:03 |
| RezDawg | guess i got to get java working now | 07:05 |
| seth_k|lappy | ubotu tell RezDawg about java | 07:05 |
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| JonasNZ | hey | 07:14 |
| seth_k|lappy | hi | 07:14 |
| JonasNZ | how stable is the Breezy RC | 07:16 |
| seth_k|lappy | I'm running Breezy on both my machines | 07:16 |
| seth_k|lappy | no showstoppers | 07:16 |
| crimsun | should be very stable. | 07:16 |
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| JonasNZ | sweet, oh and the other thing, kubuntu is just the standard ubuntu + kde packages isnt it? | 07:17 |
| crimsun | not really | 07:17 |
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| crimsun | It's a ubuntu base with KDE packages. The "standard" Ubuntu is full-blown GNOME. | 07:18 |
| JonasNZ | yeah i just worded that badly | 07:18 |
| JonasNZ | but all the ubuntu functionality is there but with KDE (which i prefer over gnome) | 07:19 |
| crimsun | Yeah, I figured that's what you meant, but it can get messy without precision. | 07:19 |
| seth_k|lappy | psh, since when is English a precise language :P | 07:19 |
| seth_k|lappy | let's all speak in ASSEMBLY | 07:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | wHOOOOOo. finaly worked out how to make an ubuntu mirror :D:D:D | 07:19 |
| JonasNZ | seth_k|lappy, yeah true | 07:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lmao seth_k|lappy | 07:19 |
| crimsun | assembly is arguably even less precise ;) | 07:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | move bullshit therex0 | 07:20 |
| seth_k|lappy | LOL | 07:20 |
| JonasNZ | the other thing, if i get the rc and install it, i can just update to get the changes that are made in the official release | 07:20 |
| seth_k|lappy | YEP | 07:20 |
| seth_k|lappy | er | 07:20 |
| seth_k|lappy | yep | 07:20 |
| seth_k|lappy | caps lock | 07:20 |
| JonasNZ | any kiwis here? | 07:22 |
| Cosmos | No, but I'm Aussie :P~ | 07:22 |
| JonasNZ | hehe, i have to find someone who can mail me a kubuntu cd, im stuck on my dialup and its sux | 07:23 |
| Cosmos | JonasNZ, look for a Linux Users Group in NZ, they'll usually send you copies of distros for the cost of shipment | 07:24 |
| satafterh | ya its to baad kubuntu wont mail you one for free | 07:24 |
| Cosmos | haha, was that a NZ joke? | 07:25 |
| Cosmos | Or did you seriously typo bad? | 07:25 |
| satafterh | og waaait i think they will | 07:25 |
| JonasNZ | Cosmos, what did i do wrong | 07:26 |
| Cosmos | JonasNZ, nothing I just pointing out that satafterh spelt "bad", "baad" (sort of like a sound a sheep makes) | 07:26 |
| JonasNZ | oh lol | 07:27 |
| Cosmos | JonasNZ, you might find someone in one of these LUGs to send you a copy of Kubuntu: http://www.google.com.au/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=New+Zealand+Linux+User+group&meta=&btnG=Google+Search | 07:27 |
| satafterh | you know what they say about sheep | 07:27 |
| Cosmos | Nope? | 07:27 |
| satafterh | lol | 07:28 |
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| JonasNZ | heh thanks, ill just hassle our techies at school do to it overnight if i cant track one down | 07:28 |
| satafterh | where is everyone from | 07:28 |
| philipacamaniac | just upgraded to KDE 3.4.2, seems to be working quite well | 07:29 |
| philipacamaniac | satafterh: AZ, USA | 07:29 |
| satafterh | ya works great | 07:29 |
| satafterh | no shit | 07:29 |
| satafterh | Canada here, and starting to get colder here | 07:30 |
| satafterh | freezing my a_s off in a few month, ihate the cold | 07:30 |
| philipacamaniac | 100+ degrees (fahrenheight) during the day here, even in October | 07:31 |
| seth_k|lappy | hmm, it's 7 deg Celsius here right now | 07:31 |
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| seth_k|lappy | mmm blankets | 07:32 |
| satafterh | I need to move, cant afford the hyfro bill in the winter | 07:32 |
| philipacamaniac | hyfro? | 07:32 |
| philipacamaniac | natural gas? | 07:32 |
| satafterh | hydron | 07:33 |
| satafterh | hydro | 07:33 |
| philipacamaniac | water? | 07:33 |
| satafterh | power | 07:33 |
| philipacamaniac | oh damn crazy words | 07:33 |
| philipacamaniac | :) | 07:33 |
| satafterh | lights, tv, heat | 07:33 |
| philipacamaniac | hydroelectric power, i get it now | 07:33 |
| satafterh | thats sort of thing | 07:33 |
| philipacamaniac | we just burn coal and split atoms (nuclear plants) here in the US | 07:34 |
| satafterh | we have a natural gas line going through the province, do you think we can get it? Not!! | 07:34 |
| philipacamaniac | kidding, the Hoover Dam also helps power the entire southwest | 07:35 |
| satafterh | we have nuclear power, coal and dambs to | 07:35 |
| satafterh | we sell the us alot of power | 07:36 |
| satafterh | mosty Main | 07:36 |
| satafterh | here any wat | 07:36 |
| philipacamaniac | that's because the US is sick with an overspending, overbuying, overusing disease | 07:36 |
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| satafterh | I notice bush likes to spend it, you should have kept clinton, i liked him | 07:37 |
| satafterh | Clinton was a good guy, he just got off on the wrong foot, or girl, lol | 07:38 |
| philipacamaniac | heh, funny thing is, I voted for bush, but now am more and more regretful | 07:38 |
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| satafterh | Bush has no idea what he is doing, Clinton away knew what and who he was doing, and people gave him a hard time for it but Bush gets away with every thing | 07:40 |
| satafterh | its to bad your pres can only serve two terms, cause Clinton was a good one i think | 07:41 |
| philipacamaniac | yeah, well, history shows that every global power falls eventually | 07:41 |
| satafterh | just have to get the right people in office and keep the stupids ones and the ones who are out for thems selves out | 07:43 |
| satafterh | Al Gore should have been your man | 07:44 |
| satafterh | later I have to go freeze to death now | 07:45 |
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| RezDawg | Do I have to manually add programs to the K menu everytime i install one? Why doenst it automaticly put it on the K menu? | 08:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: it usualy does afaik | 08:19 |
| RezDawg | Kamping_Kaiser i installed firefox and some games and nothing appeared on the K menu | 08:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | try loging out and in again. | 08:24 |
| RezDawg | okay | 08:24 |
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| RezDawg | Kamping_Kaiser: well firefox showed up but not the games | 08:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: rgith ok. im not familar with the k menu, so i cant realy comment on that :| *pokes kde ppl to help* but firefox should have showed up, so thats good | 08:30 |
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| RezDawg | well its a start, thanks. and since i have your attention do I have to type your name out everytime or is there a way i dont have to | 08:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you can probably tab complete 'kampi<tab>' should do it, depends on the chat client | 08:32 |
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| RezDawg | Kamping_Kaiser: hey that worked, thanks again. im so used to windows this is all very daunting | 08:33 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | heh. thats ok. i started using gaim before i did the switch, so i was used to my chat client already ;) | 08:34 |
| RezDawg | well is gaim the best one to use. i have irc,yahoo,aim,msn | 08:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yeh, im using gaim. | 08:37 |
| RezDawg | i dont know why all my friends want to use different clients, if i could get them to use just one i would be happy | 08:37 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | convirt them all :D | 08:37 |
| RezDawg | im trying but they all have arguements to why they like client *X* | 08:37 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i have irc,(2 networks), yahoo, aim, msn, icq, jabber :| so 1 client is nice :D | 08:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 08:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | 'msn has all these smiles' *shudder* | 08:38 |
| RezDawg | i use/used trillian for windows so i can converse with them all | 08:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i stoped using trillian after the 0.74 releases, i started to hate it :( so i switched to gaim. and it was good (etc) | 08:40 |
| RezDawg | well ill try gaim for linux and if i like it ill switch to it in windows too. i still have to use windows until i can switch over to linux all the way | 08:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | what do you use windows for? (i alwasy ask ppl, its intersting to find out) | 08:43 |
| RezDawg | well i buy alot of dvds(wife hates it) and i back them up and watch those cuzz of my kids/nieces/nephews. and I play online first person shooter | 08:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i played CSS/HL2 before moving to linux. havent had the time to get them running agin since though :) | 08:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and im suprised you cant find anything to backup dvds with :o | 08:45 |
| RezDawg | I play americas army, which they dont support for linux that well, version 2.4 in the latest for windows, been out for months, yet mac,linux version has yet to come out | 08:46 |
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| RezDawg | as for dvds, i read i can use wine to use dvdshrink, so as soon as i can get that configured that will be one less thing | 08:46 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | dvd shrink rocks, i remember it :) and im sure ppl have got it working, so you *may* find readable instructions around the place | 08:47 |
| RezDawg | i read it so its just understanding what i read to do it | 08:48 |
| RezDawg | im a noob to linux | 08:48 |
| RezDawg | maybe a month tops with linux prolly 2-3weeks | 08:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | plenty of ppl to help if you need :O | 08:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | bbl. stuff to do :) . see you later mate | 08:50 |
| RezDawg | this is my second linux distro so im still learning, first was arklinux. I like arklinux but they couldnt resolve my nvidia 3D acceleration problem so I looked for another KDE distro, since im familiar with that only so for, and found Kunbuntu | 08:50 |
| RezDawg | k, thanks | 08:50 |
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| RezDawg| | !users | 09:21 |
| ubotu | RezDawg|: I give up, what is it? | 09:21 |
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| RezDawg | !dvd | 09:35 |
| ubotu | DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras | 09:35 |
| RezDawg | !hoary-extras | 09:35 |
| ubotu | rumour has it, hoary-extras is see http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted | 09:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: you can use '!tell me about blah' as well | 09:37 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | so ubotu messages you, instead of putting it in the chan | 09:37 |
| RezDawg | im trying to figure out what to use to play dvd's | 09:37 |
| chx | hi. what's the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade? | 09:37 |
| cyne | RezDawg: kaffeine | 09:37 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | chx: dist-upgrade resolves depenancies, upgrade only upgrades packages already on the system | 09:38 |
| RezDawg | !tell me about dvd | 09:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | !tell RezDawg about ! | 09:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :O | 09:38 |
| RezDawg | !tell RezDawg about dvd | 09:39 |
| chx | Kamping_Kaiser: so there is no problem with always running dist-upgrade ? | 09:39 |
| RezDawg | can you still see it in channel? | 09:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | chx, dist-upgrade is recomended | 09:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: all we see in chan is you saying !tell me about, we dont see the answer | 09:40 |
| RezDawg | aaah okay great | 09:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 09:41 |
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| spiral | hi | 09:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi spiral :) | 09:42 |
| RezDawg | hello | 09:42 |
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| chx | is there a way to add my email address to cc on a bug without showing the email address to all? I am very interested in https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8674 | 09:44 |
| RezDawg | im running 5.04 is 5.10 stable? | 09:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: yeh, pretty much. | 09:46 |
| chx | RezDawg: I am running it and so far so good | 09:46 |
| RezDawg | might as well be a mindless sheep and follow the herd | 09:46 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 09:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | defiy the trend! stay with hoary untill they stop supporting it :D | 09:47 |
| RezDawg | Kamping_Kaiser: lol well i need help so i need to be with the rest ofthe flock | 09:48 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 09:48 |
| RezDawg | Kamping_Kaiser: so how do i tell which version im running? | 09:50 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | erm. ctrl +alt+ f1, look at the bottong line of text above the 'login'. then ctrl +alt+ f7 to get back into kde | 09:51 |
| RezDawg | hmm it still says 5.04 | 09:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | so your running hoary | 09:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | the other way to check would be look at your sources list | 09:53 |
| RezDawg | i typed sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 09:54 |
| RezDawg | do i need to go into kynaptic now and do the packages | 09:54 |
| RezDawg | that didnt do anything | 09:55 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: you have to change your sources list to point to breezy, run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade' | 09:57 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: 'sudo $youreditor /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade' | 09:58 |
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| RezDawg | so in the sources.list where it says hoary i need to change it to Breezy? | 10:02 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | yes, on every line exept the cd line (which doesnt work that way) | 10:03 |
| chx | I would like to run echo 1100 > /sys/bus/i2c/devices/0-0037/cpu0_vid on every boot. How could I...? | 10:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | chx add it to an init script (no, i cant give good help on that) | 10:04 |
| chx | Kamping_Kaiser: no rc.local or such? | 10:04 |
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| chx | hmm google points me to a simple solution :) | 10:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | chx, i cant help with that, i havent done it myself, and i dont watn to break stuff :) | 10:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cool | 10:05 |
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| chx | Kamping_Kaiser: http://www.plope.com/Members/chrism/debian_rc_local_equiv can't be simpler. what can break with an echo, anyways? | 10:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | chx, more the hacking init scripts is what i was thinking of breaking :) | 10:07 |
| chx | my poor system is sweating without undervolting, because I do not have a CPU fan :) | 10:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and sudo echo /dev/null >/dev/hda will break stuff if you want :D | 10:08 |
| chx | ROTFLMAO | 10:09 |
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| chx | Kamping_Kaiser: that will write only slash d e v slash null into the first bytes hda , it's easy to fix | 10:11 |
| chx | Kamping_Kaiser: you need a good amount of dd to break real havoc | 10:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. | 10:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | while ( /dev/urandom -ne 0) ; do echo /dev/null/ /dev/hda[1-9] ; done ?? | 10:13 |
| chx | no, no | 10:13 |
| chx | echo just won't do it | 10:13 |
| chx | root@catv-5062a336:/etc/init.d# echo /dev/null | 10:13 |
| chx | /dev/null | 10:13 |
| chx | and cat /dev/null actually does nothing | 10:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ah. cat | 10:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | or dog :D | 10:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cat /dev/null > /dev/hda1 | 10:14 |
| chx | Kamping_Kaiser: that will do nothing | 10:14 |
| chx | Kamping_Kaiser: cat will immediately get an EOF when tries to read from dev/null | 10:14 |
| RezDawg | Kamping_Kaiser: well i had problems trying to go to breezy so ill leave it for another day | 10:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hm. must need to use random then. | 10:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: you want to make sure yoru set right before you update next, or things could break | 10:15 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | !repositries | 10:15 |
| ubotu | Bugger all, i dunno, Kamping_Kaiser | 10:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :( | 10:16 |
| chx | Irepositories | 10:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | !repositories | 10:16 |
| ubotu | repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)) | 10:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 from ubotu | 10:17 |
| chx | how can I get a module into Ubuntu? | 10:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | modprobe? | 10:18 |
| chx | i mean the distribution | 10:19 |
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| chx | I downloaded did a make, modprobe and runs fine | 10:19 |
| chx | but , well, I can understand , only a limited amount of users will benefit from it | 10:20 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | get in touch with the motus and ask them about that | 10:20 |
| chx | motus?? | 10:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | masters of the universe iirc #ubuntu-motu | 10:22 |
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| chx | Riddell: ping | 10:23 |
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| tbfg | hi | 10:31 |
| tbfg | I've kubuntu hoary installed and just changed atp-sources to breezy archives | 10:31 |
| tbfg | apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade just wants to upgrade 26 packages... | 10:32 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | tbfg: are you sure you changed yoru soruces right? | 10:33 |
| tbfg | it seems as if the kde3.4.2 packages are missing | 10:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *your *sources | 10:34 |
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| tbfg | Kamping_Kaiser i replaces every occurence of hoary wit breezy | 10:34 |
| tbfg | -s+d | 10:35 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | tbfg: can you pastebin your sources list? that sounds like a strange thing to have happened. so there was no errors? | 10:35 |
| chx | deb http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde343 breezy main i tried to add this but W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088 | 10:37 |
| tbfg | Kamping_Kaiser I just realized that I was missing main in the sources (just had univers and updates) *shame* | 10:37 |
| tbfg | but thanks for your help anyway :) | 10:37 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | tbfg: lol. wd. knew it had to be simple :D | 10:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | chx. jr probably hasnt bothered to generate keys | 10:38 |
| chx | I really hope this 3.4.3 stuff will solve my rotate problem | 10:39 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | heh | 10:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | learn to lvoe it :D | 10:41 |
| RezDawg | Kamping_Kaiser: i figured out what was wrong, my repositories pointed to us.archieve, i just took out us. and boom | 10:44 |
| RezDawg | man its almost 2am | 10:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: wd. perhaps the archives were updating | 10:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: heh. bugger ;) its only 6.15 here | 10:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | pm | 10:45 |
| RezDawg | its 1:45 am | 10:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mind you, went to bed at 3am last night, and 4am the ngiht before | 10:45 |
| RezDawg | Kamping_Kaiser: second thing i did was "B"reezy, its breezy | 10:46 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ah, yeh, i got caught by that a few times :) | 10:46 |
| RezDawg | well in the header of irc it said "B"reezy so thats what i put | 10:48 |
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| TheHighChild | hey folks | 10:50 |
| TheHighChild | Was curious if anyone might know if I need a 64bit version of Enemy Territory for my AMD64 installation | 10:51 |
| TheHighChild | or if the 32 bit version works | 10:51 |
| RezDawg | cant help ya | 10:51 |
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| Firetech | When is the scheduled release date for kubuntu breezy? | 11:04 |
| RezDawg | couldnt tell you , but im updating to breezy right now | 11:05 |
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| Aapzak | good morning people | 11:06 |
| RezDawg | well it's 2am so technially you're right | 11:07 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | hi Aapzak | 11:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: only where you are :) | 11:07 |
| Aapzak | I'm in CET, its almost midday here | 11:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Firetech: 13th afaik | 11:07 |
| RezDawg | california, where else would anyone want to be ;) | 11:08 |
| Aapzak | how is everything here? quiet he? | 11:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: im happy with Aust, thanks all the same :D | 11:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and yes, very quiet :O | 11:09 |
| RezDawg | well, they have pills for that disorder if you're ever interested in getting right! | 11:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | later all :). food time | 11:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RezDawg: no thainks, ill stay ill ;) | 11:11 |
| RezDawg | Kamping_Kaiser: good night, ill prolly be in bed soon | 11:11 |
| Firetech | does upgrading with a custom kernel (2.6.12.2) cause any strange problems? | 11:17 |
| Firetech | I know there are security issues in 2.6.12.2, but those are only vulnerable within a local network afaik, and my local network is secure... | 11:18 |
| Firetech | plus I have 71 days of uptime... | 11:19 |
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| Aapzak | who cares about uptime | 11:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | everyone ;) | 11:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | im bacacaaak | 11:32 |
| Aapzak | not me :) | 11:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) well longer uptime == more security risks. so you get one or the other :D | 11:32 |
| Aapzak | after a couple of days it will be 0 anyway | 11:33 |
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| Aapzak | 502 days or something like that | 11:33 |
| Aapzak | Firetech: do you fele insecure with your current kernel? upgrade, if not? don't upgrade | 11:34 |
| Firetech | I don't feel insecure | 11:34 |
| Aapzak | then why update? | 11:34 |
| Firetech | I was asking if a breezy upgrade (running hoary now) would cause problems? | 11:34 |
| Aapzak | ah | 11:35 |
| Firetech | I wasn't too clear at that point though :/ | 11:35 |
| Aapzak | Why not just wait a couple of days until it's released? | 11:35 |
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| Aapzak | it's a matter of days I believe | 11:35 |
| Firetech | Aapzak: I think I will, but the kernel question still is there... | 11:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Firetech: no, it should cause no problems. you may have to re-install a custom kernel though | 11:36 |
| Firetech | well, I might do a new compile... | 11:36 |
| Firetech | of 2.6.13.x | 11:36 |
| Firetech | plus evms and squashfs patches. | 11:36 |
| Aapzak | uptime is so unimportant, I see no reason to let uptime influence any discisions | 11:37 |
| Firetech | well, I'm on a uptime competition list ;) | 11:38 |
| Aapzak | different cook on production machines offcourse | 11:38 |
| Aapzak | ah :) | 11:38 |
| Firetech | I'm on third or fourth place | 11:38 |
| Aapzak | prob at the bottom with you 71 days :) | 11:38 |
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| Aapzak | really? | 11:38 |
| Aapzak | now I'm curious about my uptime .. | 11:38 |
| Firetech | well, there's only 20 or so computers there | 11:39 |
| Firetech | the list think my computer is down :S | 11:39 |
| Firetech | w00t? | 11:39 |
| Aapzak | I know I maintain 2 debian servers at work who both passed 502 days and are allready on 100 again, so 602 days + | 11:39 |
| Aapzak | and they are both heavily used | 11:40 |
| Firetech | :) | 11:40 |
| Aapzak | one runs stable, the other unstable | 11:40 |
| Firetech | http://www.barbanet.com/uptime/ <-- it's in swedish though... | 11:40 |
| Firetech | my computer is "Barbaque", ans as far as I can see, it's not dead... (It's the one I'm chatting with now.) | 11:41 |
| Aapzak | barbafin is yours | 11:41 |
| Firetech | no | 11:41 |
| Firetech | The page somehow think my comp. is dead. | 11:41 |
| Firetech | I can't see why | 11:41 |
| Aapzak | ah, dod, dead | 11:42 |
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| Firetech | yup | 11:44 |
| Firetech | it seems to bee the VPN tunnels | 11:44 |
| Firetech | "Barbafarfar" is my firewall, and y computer is only accessable via VPN. | 11:45 |
| Aapzak | my Gentoo server runs for 68 days now, but as I stated before, I don't care for uptime :) | 11:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | does anyone know if an imac (g3) will boot from usb? | 11:45 |
| Aapzak | dunno Kamping_Kaiser | 11:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Aapzak: i shut my pc down every night becaues its in by bedroom ;) so i get massive 18 -> 24 hour uptimes :) | 11:45 |
| Aapzak | :) | 11:46 |
| Firetech | Kamping_Kaiser: My computer is in my bedroom | 11:46 |
| Aapzak | I have that on laptop and workstation | 11:46 |
| Firetech | I keep it quiet, though | 11:46 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Firetech: i have a server (that can be heard form the ohter end of the house when its running) adn a desktop , so i *cant* sleep with them on :) | 11:47 |
| Firetech | I can make m,y computer hearable from the other end of the house, I just turn on the case fans on 12V :P | 11:48 |
| Firetech | Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu does the quietness job :) | 11:48 |
| Aapzak | I use low spec machines for server, with quiet fans | 11:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) i cant make mine quieter, only louder, and its loud enough :( *will get industrial deafness soon :S* | 11:49 |
| Firetech | it's on its lowest setting (~1500 RPM), and still keeps my CPU at ~39 degrees Celsius. | 11:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Aapzak: i got given it, 30GB worth of scsi hdds | 11:49 |
| Aapzak | @10000 rpm? | 11:50 |
| Aapzak | that will make some noise | 11:50 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not sure :( i doubt it though, its quite old kit | 11:50 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | the fans are loud enough, let alone when you throuw IO accross the dics | 11:50 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *discs | 11:50 |
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| Aapzak | I buy all my hardware on 2 criteria: linux compatibility, loudness | 11:56 |
| Aapzak | so I have seagate disks which are extremely quiet | 11:57 |
| Aapzak | not the fastest disks, but I care more about noise than the loss of speed | 11:57 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i have only had to buy one thing after switching, so i havent been able to apply that principal >:O | 11:58 |
| Aapzak | you will get that choice in time | 11:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. i sure will | 11:59 |
| Aapzak | :) | 11:59 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | when i upgrade in 2 years :) | 12:00 |
| Aapzak | same here | 12:00 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | i committed to having my pc last 5 years. 2 years ago | 12:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | so 2+ years | 12:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | all i have done is added new stuff, not 'upgraded' as such | 12:02 |
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| Aapzak | 5 years is a long time, what kind of hardware was available 5 years ago, PII 600? | 12:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | p3s | 12:12 |
| Aapzak | allright if you're not a gamer :) | 12:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i was | 12:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | but i got my first (well, family got first) PC in 2002/3 | 12:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | everything i hvae learned is self taught... so i wasnt gaming on anying in 2k ;) | 12:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | !networkinstall | 12:14 |
| ubotu | Kamping_Kaiser: Syntax error in line 1 | 12:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :( | 12:14 |
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| spiral | hmmm, it looks like gpgme is broken in my breezy... | 12:17 |
| spiral | kmail doesn't manage to uncypher mails... & it tells me gpgme wasn't compiled with pgp support... | 12:17 |
| spiral | does anyone know about this ? it might be a problem with the recent upgrade of some kde 3.4.3 packages, but I didn't add the repo in src | 12:18 |
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| pc22 | whats with the kde (universe) | 12:37 |
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| spiral | anyone knows for gpgme ? | 12:40 |
| Tm_T | ? | 12:40 |
| spiral | Tm_T: I said a few minutes ago it was broken in my laptop, because kmail no longer wants to decrypt... | 12:41 |
| Tm_T | ah | 12:41 |
| spiral | & it tells me gpgme isn't built with gnupg & s/mime suport | 12:41 |
| spiral | support | 12:41 |
| libben | http://www.funnyhub.com/videos/page.cgi/worlds-fattest-cat | 12:41 |
| Tm_T | spiral: kde343 ? | 12:41 |
| moty | hello there? | 12:42 |
| Tm_T | moty: yes? | 12:42 |
| moty | is there any way i coud get amarok >= 1.3 without compiling? | 12:42 |
| Tm_T | yes | 12:43 |
| moty | in hoary? | 12:43 |
| Tm_T | moty: it's in http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php | 12:43 |
| seaLne | moty: upgrade to breezy :) | 12:44 |
| Tm_T | moty: but what's wrong with compiling? | 12:44 |
| seaLne | moty: tho you might want to wait till thursday | 12:44 |
| Tm_T | seaLne: no reason to wait ;) | 12:44 |
| moty | nop not really stable:( | 12:44 |
| seaLne | i know i've been running breezy for ages | 12:44 |
| === Tm_T has compiled koffice,kdepim,kopete and amarok, all of them from svn :) | ||
| moty | Tm_T: well with compiling i'll have to compile all the new deps like gstreamer an libtag 1.4 and this is the reason why i quit gentoo:( tired of compiling | 12:46 |
| Tm_T | everyday something new <3 | 12:46 |
| Tm_T | moty: ok, so then use binary packages | 12:46 |
| moty | where can i get one? | 12:46 |
| Tm_T | http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php | 12:46 |
| moty | Tm_T: no amarok there... | 12:47 |
| Tm_T | moty: should be? | 12:47 |
| moty | no amarok dont belong to the official kde | 12:47 |
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| Tm_T | hmm | 12:47 |
| Tm_T | ah yes | 12:47 |
| Tm_T | sorry | 12:47 |
| moty | :) | 12:48 |
| Tm_T | I forgot that little detail | 12:48 |
| Tm_T | moty: then I don't know | 12:48 |
| moty | what r u guis using hoary or breezy??? | 12:48 |
| Tm_T | breezy | 12:48 |
| moty | i see | 12:48 |
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| seaLne | ooh the new kdesu looks much nicer | 12:53 |
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| Tm_T | seaLne: ...I didn't saw anything different | 12:55 |
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| seaLne | think it came with 3.4.3 maybe? | 12:55 |
| spiral | am I the only one who gets problems with gpgme in kmail ? | 12:55 |
| seaLne | Tm_T: you dist-upgraded this morning? | 12:56 |
| Tm_T | seaLne: :o | 12:58 |
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| Tm_T | seaLne: looks like there's coming a whole punch of packages | 12:59 |
| seaLne | yep :) | 12:59 |
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| Tm_T | seaLne: but... 3.4.3 packages, and I supposed to have 3.5b1 already :p | 12:59 |
| moty | BTW why did they mess with the konqueror profile in breezy, didnt like it at all... | 01:00 |
| seaLne | moty: i'd agree with you... | 01:04 |
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| Tm_T | vieras: what's up? | 01:08 |
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| Wimpie | hi all, looking for xine-ui 0.99.4 which solves the right click crash | 01:09 |
| hettar | where can one get the sun java packages | 01:09 |
| seaLne | !java | 01:09 |
| ubotu | somebody said java was to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java | 01:09 |
| hettar | thanks | 01:10 |
| apokryphos | hettar: giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ | 01:10 |
| apokryphos | problem with the wiki entry is that it wants you to make the debs yourself :-O | 01:10 |
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| seaLne | apokryphos: its really simple | 01:10 |
| hettar | yeah I see that. I was sure I had seen .debs somewhere | 01:10 |
| apokryphos | I know; not as simple as dpkg -i | 01:11 |
| seaLne | apokryphos: sun don't allow other people without a license to distribute java | 01:11 |
| apokryphos | I know | 01:11 |
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| hettar | Does anyone actually like the new kubuntu package manager ?? | 01:16 |
| cyne | hettar: kynaptic? | 01:18 |
| seaLne | adept | 01:18 |
| apokryphos | hettar: what don't you like about it? | 01:19 |
| hettar | adept | 01:19 |
| hettar | on breezy | 01:19 |
| hettar | Way to confusing | 01:19 |
| apokryphos | what specifically? | 01:20 |
| hettar | I had to install synaptic again | 01:20 |
| hettar | particually painful if you want to install a lot of packages. need to click on each arrow then press the install button | 01:22 |
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| hettar | And in general you have a cuple of filters you use and the rest of the time you do a more specific search. | 01:23 |
| hettar | I can't find any way of setting up those filters in adept | 01:23 |
| seaLne | i like apt-get and apt-cache :) | 01:23 |
| hettar | seaLne: I use that too, but synaptic is good if you want to look through say the KDE packages to see what is interesting that you haven;t tried | 01:24 |
| apokryphos | worth trying out, hettar, is KPackage if you want a GUI front-end | 01:24 |
| PeterSomnium | is it possible to upgrade hoary to breezy without losing files? | 01:25 |
| hettar | I did try it ages ago, might give it another go some time | 01:25 |
| apokryphos | PeterSomnium: what files? | 01:25 |
| apokryphos | if you mean things in /home, then yes -- of course. A dist-upgrade won't touch things in there | 01:25 |
| PeterSomnium | home dir and conf files and stuff | 01:25 |
| seaLne | PeterSomnium: just replace hoary with breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list :) | 01:26 |
| PeterSomnium | apt-get dist-upgrade | 01:26 |
| PeterSomnium | Reading package lists... Done | 01:26 |
| PeterSomnium | Building dependency tree... Done | 01:26 |
| PeterSomnium | Calculating upgrade... Done | 01:26 |
| PeterSomnium | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 01:26 |
| PeterSomnium | i did that | 01:26 |
| hettar | Well nearly go the breezy rc all working nicely | 01:26 |
| PeterSomnium | just change sources.list? | 01:26 |
| seaLne | then apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade | 01:26 |
| PeterSomnium | k thanks | 01:26 |
| apokryphos | !breezy | 01:27 |
| ubotu | The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade | 01:27 |
| apokryphos | and don't flood the chan please, PeterSomnium | 01:27 |
| PeterSomnium | yeah ok | 01:27 |
| PeterSomnium | sorry for that | 01:27 |
| hettar | Tried straight gnome breezy first but It must have a memory leak or a few million of them. | 01:27 |
| hettar | X was using about 600M on average. rather than the 34 it is using now. | 01:28 |
| hettar | and some of the taskbar applets were using about 50 meg | 01:29 |
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| paines | hi | 01:31 |
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| zviratko | hi ppl | 01:42 |
| phoenixbyrd | hey | 01:42 |
| zviratko | was the page with kde35 packages moved somewhere? | 01:42 |
| zviratko | (http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php) | 01:42 |
| zviratko | give me a 404 | 01:42 |
| phoenixbyrd | idk, haven't looked at it yet | 01:42 |
| phoenixbyrd | yea, I got a 404 too | 01:44 |
| phoenixbyrd | don't even see the dl for breezy anymore either | 01:45 |
| seaLne | yeah its in a subdir now can't remember what its called tho | 01:48 |
| zviratko | heh ;) | 01:48 |
| seaLne | http://kubuntu.org/packages/ | 01:48 |
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| phoenixbyrd | how do I get it from that? | 01:49 |
| apokryphos | http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php | 01:49 |
| phoenixbyrd | ty | 01:50 |
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| zviratko | hmmm | 01:51 |
| zviratko | looks like something still remains from 3.4 tho | 01:51 |
| zviratko | because it wants to upgrade some parts to 3.4.91, and some to 3.4.3 | 01:51 |
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| apokryphos | only libs, base, toys and utils is in 3.5 | 01:51 |
| apokryphos | well, and aRts | 01:52 |
| zviratko | ah | 01:52 |
| zviratko | any way to get it whole? | 01:52 |
| Tm_T | ah now I see | 01:52 |
| apokryphos | zviratko: yes; compile | 01:53 |
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| motyR | what is the 3.4.3 packages u r talking about? i never saw kde 3.4.3? | 01:53 |
| apokryphos | motyR: /topic | 01:54 |
| zviratko | apokryphos: if i wanted to compile, i wouldn't switch from gentoo yesterday :D | 01:54 |
| Tm_T | :) | 01:54 |
| motyR | y i saw that but what r those is there any official kde 3.4.3? | 01:54 |
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| apokryphos | then you'll have to wait, unfortunately; devs are busy with breezy release | 01:54 |
| apokryphos | 3.5 is a beta version, remember, too | 01:55 |
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| apokryphos | motyR: yes, they are | 01:55 |
| Tm_T | zviratko: you can always help devs ;) | 01:55 |
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| lucian | hello | 01:56 |
| lucian | (k)ubuntu is based on debian??? | 01:56 |
| apokryphos | yes | 01:56 |
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| lucian | thank you! | 01:56 |
| apokryphos | http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/ | 01:56 |
| Tm_T | :) | 01:56 |
| motyR | apokryphos: all i see in kde.org r 3.4.2 and 3.5-beta, am i missing something? | 01:56 |
| apokryphos | motyR: yes; you're missing the channel topic | 01:57 |
| Tm_T | I really hope there will be more collaboration between (K)Ubuntu and Debian | 01:57 |
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| mrplant | " They say when you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear demonic voices. That's nothing - when you play it forward it installs Windows " | 01:58 |
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| Tm_T | mrplant: old one | 01:58 |
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| Tm_T | not as old as me, but old ;) | 01:59 |
| mrplant | yeah i've heard; ] | 02:00 |
| mrplant | but funny ;] | 02:00 |
| Tm_T | sad :/ | 02:00 |
| mrplant | true ;] | 02:01 |
| mrplant | http://atmizzou.missouri.edu/oct04/images/vietnam.jpg i love this pic | 02:04 |
| Tm_T | :) | 02:06 |
| mrplant | jesus | 02:06 |
| mrplant | internet connection | 02:06 |
| mrplant | works lika turtle | 02:06 |
| mrplant | 1kb/s | 02:06 |
| mrplant | on cable modem | 02:06 |
| mrplant | :| | 02:06 |
| mrplant | instead of 80 | 02:06 |
| Tm_T | and what's about jesus? | 02:07 |
| mrplant | ;> | 02:07 |
| mrplant | jesus had | 02:07 |
| mrplant | some good ideas | 02:07 |
| mrplant | but his followers | 02:07 |
| mrplant | screwed things upo | 02:07 |
| mrplant | *up | 02:07 |
| Tm_T | :/ | 02:08 |
| robin | hmm, anyone any success syncing his bluetooth phone with kontact? | 02:10 |
| robin | it seems to get the data of the phone, but the syncing proces never ends | 02:10 |
| robin | (using breezy) | 02:12 |
| Tm_T | :/ | 02:13 |
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| Dario_ | Hi all. I see gamin (gam_server) is still causing problems (impossible to umount some unused devices). How to permanently kill gam_server ? grep -r "gam_server" /etc/ is empty, so where and when does it get launched ? | 02:17 |
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| robin | kitchensync: Error! Trying to delete File: , but it wasn't FOUND | 02:24 |
| robin | kitchensync: but this CAN'T HAPPEN | 02:24 |
| robin | interesting.. | 02:24 |
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| D1ng0 | everyones sleeping huh | 02:34 |
| D1ng0 | clear | 02:37 |
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| m_tadeu | hi everyone | 02:38 |
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| m_tadeu | I was checking the kubuntu repositories and I found stuff from kde3.4.3....whats the deal with this version? | 02:40 |
| mornfall | hettar: dude | 02:41 |
| mornfall | hettar: select all packages you want to install, right-click, install | 02:41 |
| mornfall | hettar: it's -easy- | 02:41 |
| _mrplant | m_tadeu: dunno, im using kde 3.5b | 02:43 |
| mornfall | m_tadeu: what deal? breezy ships with 3.4 | 02:44 |
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| m_tadeu | mm...not that...did kde released a v3.4.3? | 02:47 |
| Tm_T | m_tadeu: not yet? | 02:48 |
| m_tadeu | not in the kde news :P | 02:48 |
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| Tm_T | but this is: http://dot.kde.org/1128688328/ | 02:48 |
| m_tadeu | from jabber server? | 02:50 |
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| Tm_T | I mean, now kde people have their own jabber server :) | 02:51 |
| m_tadeu | neat | 02:51 |
| asraniel | hi, is there a way to set the default soundcard when there are two installed? | 02:52 |
| m_tadeu | btw....is there a reason for not releasing some kde packages from kde3.5beta1? | 02:54 |
| Tm_T | m_tadeu: I don't think so, but someone must do/maintain them | 02:55 |
| Tm_T | m_tadeu: so if you're volunteer... ;) | 02:55 |
| Tm_T | asraniel: yes, in kcontrol | 02:55 |
| m_tadeu | lol just wondering ;) don't have the knowledge to do it | 02:56 |
| Tm_T | :/ | 02:57 |
| Tm_T | m_tadeu: it's time to learn and give something to community ;) | 02:57 |
| m_tadeu | Tm_T: how's it done? | 02:57 |
| Tm_T | m_tadeu: heh, riddell is a man ;) | 02:57 |
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| asraniel | Tm_T: i cant find a way in kcontrol to change the default soundcard... | 02:59 |
| Tm_T | m_tadeu: if youre really interested, #kubuntu-devel | 03:02 |
| Tm_T | asraniel: kcontrol -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound System -> Hardware | 03:03 |
| m_tadeu | I never done it, but i might give it a try ;) | 03:03 |
| Tm_T | asraniel: override device location | 03:03 |
| Tm_T | m_tadeu: I never done it yet, but will | 03:04 |
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| Tm_T | asraniel: got it? hilight me if there's something to ask. Work to do -> | 03:05 |
| robin | nobody got the t610 syncing with kontact :/ ? | 03:05 |
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| asraniel | Tm_T: could work.. but now i have to find out the device name of the second soundcard, is there a easy way for that? | 03:06 |
| asraniel | Tm_T: if you are in any way connected to the kde devs, a little selection box for the default sound card, would be great.. realy, its a problem in nearly every distro | 03:07 |
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| `Nomad | I've decided to take the jump and upgrade to breezy.. What do I need to do, update the sources file to breezy first? An dthe run apt-get dist-upgrade | 03:12 |
| asraniel | Tm_T: i suppose i should write there /dev/dsp1 ? but it tells me that there is no such file/directory. in konki i can see the file.. hmm.. | 03:12 |
| kairu0 | nomad: its probably a good idea to backup too. doesnt always go easily | 03:12 |
| `Nomad | Backed up everything | 03:13 |
| `Nomad | :) | 03:13 |
| kairu0 | okay then give you should be ok | 03:13 |
| `Nomad | Actually, I wonder if I shouldn't downlod the CD and do a fresh install | 03:13 |
| kairu0 | thats the best option | 03:13 |
| kairu0 | i have one here, maybe i can throw it to you | 03:14 |
| `Nomad | lol | 03:14 |
| kairu0 | i'd give you a 50% chance of getting a satisfying kubuntu with an upgrade | 03:14 |
| kairu0 | 90% with a fresh install | 03:14 |
| `Nomad | really? | 03:14 |
| `Nomad | ok | 03:14 |
| kairu0 | 95% if you fresh install and give me a massage | 03:14 |
| `Nomad | lol | 03:14 |
| rikva|laptop | I just screwed up my hoary when trying to upgrade... | 03:15 |
| `Nomad | I'll have to realllly think about that | 03:15 |
| rikva|laptop | just did a fresh install | 03:15 |
| `Nomad | I've been meaning to break down my partitioning anyway, I let Kubuntu on auto the first time I guess and have everything in one part. | 03:15 |
| `Nomad | I want at least my /home to eb separate | 03:15 |
| kairu0 | Nomad i have a main partition and a 'library' partition that has all my data. i'd recommend it | 03:16 |
| rikva|laptop | what is the new "HP Printing and Imaging System"/ | 03:17 |
| `Nomad | yes, sounds good | 03:17 |
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| melkart | the release candidate is still likely to be changed before final release, isnt it? | 03:20 |
| kairu0 | yes | 03:21 |
| melkart | tx | 03:21 |
| kairu0 | more than likely even | 03:21 |
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| kairu0 | no adding, but lots of updating | 03:21 |
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| `Nomad | Should I wait or is it mostly up to speed already anyway? There shouldn't be any major bugs by now right? | 03:22 |
| robin | ok syncing works, although only calendar | 03:22 |
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| robin | `Nomad: you can always update | 03:22 |
| `Nomad | exactly | 03:22 |
| robin | `Nomad: i'm running RC1, and it's working great | 03:22 |
| robin | even my old usb scanner suddently worked :D | 03:23 |
| `Nomad | robin: It'll be fun, figuring out where to re-download all the baghira theme stuff :) | 03:23 |
| robin | `Nomad: yeah | 03:23 |
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| robin | `Nomad: i like the plastick stuff | 03:24 |
| `Nomad | yeah, it's good to have options.. Long Live Linux!! | 03:24 |
| macavity | yes.. it *is* quite a versatile kernel, isn't it ;) | 03:25 |
| robin | i'm really amazed that all my hardware works | 03:26 |
| robin | phone,scanner,printer,sound,graphics really cool. | 03:26 |
| `Nomad | It must feel awesome, being linus torvald and seeing where his initial project ended up :) | 03:26 |
| robin | hehe yes | 03:26 |
| mrplant | yep | 03:27 |
| mrplant | i'm really proud of myself | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | definetly | 03:27 |
| macavity | from the feel i have of him, i think he is focusing much more on how to make it better, then dwelling on how good it actually is :) | 03:27 |
| === mrplant = Linus Torvalds | ||
| === mrplant NOT. | ||
| mrplant | ;> | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | didnt think so | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | wasnt seeing the name via private chat | 03:28 |
| `Nomad | hehe | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | and i'm darn sure you would be part of one of the devel channels if you were, and you obviously arent part of them | 03:29 |
| `Nomad | How big is the DVD, I was thinking of getting that instead of the CD | 03:29 |
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| Tm_T | asraniel: pong | 03:32 |
| asraniel | Tm_T: ping | 03:32 |
| Tm_T | ok | 03:33 |
| Tm_T | asraniel: I think it's like hwd:0 , hwd:1 etc | 03:33 |
| asraniel | Tm_T; my problem is still here, i dont know what the device name is that i should write there.. | 03:33 |
| asraniel | oh.. ok.. | 03:33 |
| Tm_T | I'm not sure though | 03:33 |
| Lathiat | its hw:0, hw:1 | 03:33 |
| asraniel | OMG! it works :-D | 03:34 |
| Tm_T | yes | 03:34 |
| Tm_T | Lathiat: thanks :) | 03:34 |
| Tm_T | asraniel: it's ok now? | 03:34 |
| asraniel | thank you!!! but why is there not just a simple list where you can chose your soundcard? would be much simpler and not difficult to code.. | 03:34 |
| asraniel | Tm_T: yes it works :-) | 03:35 |
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| Tm_T | asraniel: good good, and yes, there's a place for improvenment | 03:35 |
| asraniel | now only 2 problems are left. no usb, dont know why, i dont have USB with mandriva either, but with windows i have (at least i think, its a long time i have no more windows on this pc) | 03:36 |
| asraniel | Tm_T: perhaps i will put it on the wishlist on bugs.kde.org | 03:36 |
| Tm_T | asraniel: please do :) | 03:36 |
| macavity | uhm... technically its because the proper backend is missing... | 03:36 |
| macavity | it would be braindamaged if KDE implemented "its own device manager", rather then a front-end to the would-be-in-common-use | 03:37 |
| Tm_T | yu | 03:37 |
| Tm_T | I think there will be better approach in KDE4 | 03:38 |
| asraniel | and my other problem is that the dhcp server always overides the dns servers i set manualy... thats a big problem for me, sadly there is no checkbox like in mandriva where i can say that i dont want the dns servers from the dhcp but that i keep my own | 03:38 |
| macavity | asraniel: you can set them manually in /etc/resolv.conf | 03:39 |
| asraniel | macavity: sure, but they get overwritten on every reboot, already tried that | 03:39 |
| macavity | just add "nameserver n.n.n.n" in the first line | 03:39 |
| macavity | make it read only ;-) | 03:40 |
| asraniel | doesent work either | 03:40 |
| macavity | what?!? | 03:40 |
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| asraniel | macavity: at least under mandriva | 03:40 |
| Lathiat | are there any good media payers for kde? | 03:40 |
| asraniel | macavity: i never tried it under kubuntu, but i think it will be the same | 03:40 |
| Lathiat | or shoudl i stick with totem :) | 03:40 |
| macavity | well.. mandriva has a lot of "we want to deside for you"-ism.. like "that other OS you-know" :P | 03:41 |
| m_tadeu | something about usplash...i installed kubuntu-artwork-usplash....shouldn't I get a kubuntu splash screen at boot time? | 03:41 |
| robin | m_tadeu: you have in breezy | 03:41 |
| m_tadeu | yap | 03:41 |
| macavity | asraniel: you could look at the boot script for the net, and append the switches that makes the dhcp client not poll dns? | 03:42 |
| Lathiat | m-fox: you need to run dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` | 03:42 |
| macavity | asraniel: its probably ugly.. but it should work | 03:42 |
| m_tadeu | robin_: i'm using breezy :P | 03:42 |
| robin | m_tadeu: i meant, than you allready should have the kubuntu usplash | 03:42 |
| robin | m_tadeu: at least I got it in RC1 | 03:42 |
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| robin | m_tadeu: maybe a dist-upgrade? | 03:43 |
| Hobbsee | Lathiat: i use amarok, have a look in your multimedia menu and pick the one that takes your fancy. | 03:43 |
| Lathiat | Hobbsee: video, not music :) | 03:43 |
| Lathiat | amarok is good | 03:43 |
| Lathiat | kaffeine crashes hopelessly | 03:43 |
| m_tadeu | robin_: i've been updating all packages since the preview release | 03:44 |
| user0 | is there 3.5 beta1 kde kubuntu live cd out? | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | ah, media players...i would class that as both video and music | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | user0: possibly, i dont think so | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | user0: what were you wanting it for? | 03:44 |
| user0 | oh ok Hobbsee. i want it to download it and use it | 03:45 |
| robin | m_tadeu: hmm, strange. | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | Lathiat: maybe noatun? | 03:45 |
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| Hobbsee | user0: are you already on kubuntu? | 03:45 |
| Lathiat | Hobbsee: i'll try that | 03:45 |
| user0 | nope | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | what are you on? | 03:45 |
| user0 | windows | 03:45 |
| m_tadeu | robin_: is there a config file where I can change it? | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | user0: grab the RC breezy kubuntu cd | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | then you can upgrade from there to kde 3.5 beta | 03:46 |
| user0 | i think that is 3.4 something | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, 3.4.2 | 03:46 |
| user0 | oh? | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | well, when you install it properly, you can | 03:46 |
| user0 | the updates will stay on disk or what | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | not from the live cd | 03:46 |
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| user0 | ohhhh | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | where's my brain tonight lol | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | user0: no, they wont stay on the livecd | 03:47 |
| robin | m_tadeu: I don't know, but it's kinda a bug as it should be changed by upgrading I think.. | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | livecd makes no changes to your hard disk, or the cd itself | 03:47 |
| user0 | i see | 03:47 |
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| user0 | i know that knoppix is able to save all your settings to hd | 03:47 |
| drazzib | hello all | 03:47 |
| user0 | which is preetty nifty | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | user0: is it? not sure why you'd want to - what if you screwed it up? | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | hi drazzib | 03:48 |
| user0 | screwed what up? | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | user0: you'd hardly want to start customising your system with a live cd | 03:48 |
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| drazzib | i'm currently trying kubuntu 5.10 rc and i'm experiencing problem with my ipw2200 | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | linux in general, deleted folders you didnt want to delete, etc | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | the possibilities are endless lol | 03:49 |
| user0 | well you can change all your kde configurations and whatnot to save for later. actualyl i think it's quite useful | 03:49 |
| PtitOurs | Hi | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | true, that would be | 03:49 |
| user0 | thats if u use the livecd a lot when installing isnt an option | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | but imagine that you did screw something up, say you managed to uninstall kubuntu-desktop, and were dropped at a command prompt - you certinally wouldnt want to save that session! | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | true | 03:50 |
| drazzib | my wireless link seems really agnostic with ubuntu :( | 03:50 |
| user0 | oh no, it doesnt auto save | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | installing is faster though, ie the system runs faster | 03:50 |
| drazzib | wich version of iwp2200 is included in ubuntu ? | 03:50 |
| user0 | its also nice you can save your optoins onto say a usb keychain so the next time your hd gets b0rked you at least have a nice customized kde | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | true | 03:51 |
| user0 | yeah installing is always a better choice when its available | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | nothign would technically stop you from doing that with kubuntu cd either, if you knew what to save | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | the hidden files in your home drive, which you can unhide with konqueror | 03:52 |
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| Hobbsee | ipw2200? what's that? | 03:52 |
| user0 | yeah it's fairly simple procedure to just copy the directories or whatever. it's just automated and made easy is all really | 03:52 |
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| drazzib | ipw2200 is the intel centrino wireless driver | 03:53 |
| Hobbsee | ah, here | 03:54 |
| user0 | lots of ppl in here. so kubuntu is really good or what? | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | that might help | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | user0: seen the ubuntuforums.org? | 03:55 |
| user0 | nope | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | there's a really good guide in there in the beginners section | 03:55 |
| drazzib | thanks hobbsee | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | it's the first on the list, and is entitled something like "is ubuntu for me" | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | you might want to check it out :) | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | drazzib: no problems | 03:55 |
| drazzib | but i know how to install a new ipw2200 from source | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | and it's a very good resource | 03:56 |
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| drazzib | i'm looking for a way to find why this driver doesn't work in the default install | 03:56 |
| Hobbsee | drazzib: nothing's stopping you from doing that, assumign you know how to make it work | 03:56 |
| drazzib | hobbsee> yes ;) | 03:57 |
| Hobbsee | good question, got no clue of the answer | 03:57 |
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| m_tadeu | I'm having problems on setting my webcam....don't know how to put it to work... | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | !webcam | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | !tell m_tadeu about webcam | 04:00 |
| rikva|laptop | Adept keeps saying I don't run it as root | 04:01 |
| rikva|laptop | But I am using kdesu/sudo | 04:01 |
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| rikva|laptop | ah fixed, it was still running crashed | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | do you then put in your password for it? | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | ah :) | 04:02 |
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| m_tadeu | Hobbsee: I was trying first with gnomemeeting, then with xawtv and camorama...don't realy known what the problem can be...the kernel detected it 'cos the driver is there, but..... | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | checked google? | 04:05 |
| Hobbsee | a lot of people document their problems on there, and are found by searching | 04:06 |
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| Hobbsee | try googling the brand and model of the webcam, followed by linux | 04:06 |
| m_tadeu | i checked some of them..none of the solutions seem to aply...most of them is that the device is not detected | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | is kde detecting it, as part of media in konqueror? | 04:08 |
| m_tadeu | nop | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | i'm wondering if it was actually detected or not | 04:09 |
| m_tadeu | let me check | 04:09 |
| m_tadeu | usbcore 117884 4 sn9c102,usbhid,uhci_hcd | 04:10 |
| robin | hmm, when I try to share on of my folders, I get the message 'Make sure the Perl script 'fileshareset' is set suid root | 04:10 |
| m_tadeu | using lsmod....sn9c102 is the webcam, i guess | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | sounds like that's the driver, but i wouldnt really have a clue | 04:11 |
| Hobbsee | havent tried using a webcam in a long while, only on windows | 04:11 |
| m_tadeu | first time for me ;) | 04:12 |
| === Hobbsee hopes that someone else is reading, someone who actually knows something about webcams and linux | ||
| m_tadeu | well, I'll keep looking...thanx :) | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | wish i could help more | 04:13 |
| m_tadeu | mmm...do you know how to change the usplah image? | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | !usplash | 04:15 |
| ubotu | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Hobbsee | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | check kde-look.org - i think they have some there, and if they do, they will have instructions on how to use them | 04:15 |
| m_tadeu | oki | 04:16 |
| libben | is there any problems if i install ubuntu-artwork? | 04:19 |
| libben | or is it just for gnome? | 04:19 |
| rikva|laptop | what repository should I add in Breezy to get the w32codecs ? | 04:22 |
| libben | universe i think | 04:23 |
| rikva|laptop | i have universe enabled | 04:24 |
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| satafterh | i just looked for update and it looks like kde 3.4.3 is available, is this a stable release?? | 04:31 |
| satafterh | anyone here?? | 04:32 |
| mornfall | w32codecs are non-free | 04:32 |
| satafterh | they where free to me lol | 04:32 |
| satafterh | marnfall you still here | 04:33 |
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| satafterh | is anyone here | 04:33 |
| frank23 | rikva|laptop: still here? | 04:34 |
| m_tadeu | kde didn't report any news, but is should be a stable release | 04:34 |
| frank23 | It will be in breezy, so it should be stable | 04:34 |
| satafterh | have you installed it | 04:34 |
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| frank23 | I'm installing it right now, but I thought it was a minor release... | 04:35 |
| m_tadeu | downloading :) | 04:35 |
| EricCartman | default repositories don't have mplayer ? | 04:35 |
| rikva|laptop | frank23: yes | 04:35 |
| frank23 | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main | 04:35 |
| rikva|laptop | thanks | 04:36 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: no, only marillat aka debian-illegal | 04:36 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: (mplayer has violated copyright laws -- several times) | 04:36 |
| EricCartman | mornfall: you're everwhere aren't you. | 04:36 |
| EricCartman | mornfall: how can I add that repository | 04:36 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: what were the minor adept bugs? | 04:36 |
| rikva|laptop | where is libdvdcss? | 04:36 |
| EricCartman | mornfall: it didN't update dependencies in the preview when Iremoved items | 04:37 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: that's not completely a bug -- it's... well :) | 04:37 |
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| EricCartman | ;) | 04:37 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: corner-case, which needs to be solved | 04:37 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: anything else? | 04:37 |
| satafterh | 3.4.3 just bug fixes does any one know or are there new toy to play with | 04:37 |
| EricCartman | and I believe repository manager should be a seperate dialog (window) don't you think so | 04:38 |
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| mornfall | EricCartman: no | 04:38 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: why? | 04:38 |
| EricCartman | well gigantic three button at the bottom seems weird | 04:38 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: gigantic? | 04:38 |
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| mornfall | EricCartman: i could add a spacer somewhere for sure | 04:38 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: will see | 04:38 |
| Lathiat | ok I installed RC, is it just me or is kmail not in the menu anywhere | 04:38 |
| EricCartman | yep, they occupy whole horizontal space at the bottom, looks like they belong to seperate window, but that's just my taste | 04:38 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: well -- what is the benefit of a separate window? (it's obviously clutter, so it better be for a good reason) | 04:39 |
| rikva|laptop | Lathiat: kontact | 04:39 |
| EricCartman | mornfall: I'm not asking for a new window particularly, it's just that "repository manager" seems like it's not being embedded or something. | 04:40 |
| EricCartman | mornfall: I would use tabs view | 04:40 |
| EricCartman | the GUI is not very common, so it feels weird at first, but I liked it | 04:41 |
| EricCartman | But I believe advanced search stuff must be hidden at first | 04:41 |
| Lathiat | rikva|laptop: ah i see | 04:41 |
| EricCartman | and list must have maximum possible space | 04:41 |
| Lathiat | rikva|laptop: not very o bvious :) something should be done about that | 04:41 |
| mornfall | brb- | 04:41 |
| satafterh | there is only one thing i miss about xp and that is winamp and shout cast tv | 04:42 |
| satafterh | people not very chaty in here today, but i notice there is a 126 people in here and the most i have seen, kubuntu is growing, lol | 04:43 |
| satafterh | what should i add to my source lit to update mplayer, or is mplayer not updated very often | 04:45 |
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| frank23 | satafterh: there are very good music players in ubuntu! try amarok and streamtuner | 04:45 |
| mornfall | back | 04:46 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: "must"? | 04:46 |
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| satafterh | not the music player it self i miss its the streeming video, old tv shows | 04:46 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: you don't have a real chance to overlook more than about a dozen items... | 04:46 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: and you generally want nontrivial amount of filtering when looking for something, anyway | 04:47 |
| satafterh | I am going to restart just finished 3.4.3 | 04:47 |
| EricCartman | mornfall: yep, true. but it confused me the firs time I launched it. | 04:47 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: the filters are however collapsible for a reason | 04:47 |
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| EricCartman | mornfall: almost 90% of the time use just qucik filter | 04:47 |
| mrplant | what is the best app | 04:47 |
| mrplant | to configure | 04:47 |
| mrplant | gtk 1.2 | 04:47 |
| mrplant | apps? | 04:47 |
| mornfall | EricCartman: sure, but you are not everyone -- and when "looking for software", many people will probably resort to tags | 04:48 |
| EricCartman | mornfall: well, I prefer simpler config dialogs ... and advanced dialogs if I need them. That's my opinion. | 04:48 |
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| mornfall | EricCartman: i'll probably make it more obvious for 2.0, with tag stuff moving to a (hidable) sidebar, with d&d of tags into the filter view | 04:49 |
| twinoatl | hi | 04:49 |
| user0 | is there a live/install image that fits on one cd? | 04:50 |
| twinoatl | it seems that dma is not installed on my dvd-burner. What is the ubuntu-way of configuring it ? | 04:50 |
| mornfall | twinoatl: hdparm <dvd-device> to see what's its state | 04:50 |
| twinoatl | twinoatl@pcdam:~$ sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda | 04:51 |
| twinoatl | /dev/hda: | 04:51 |
| twinoatl | using_dma = 0 (off) | 04:51 |
| mornfall | twinoatl: tough luck :-) | 04:52 |
| mornfall | (no idea how to enable it) | 04:52 |
| m_tadeu | try this on the /etc/hdpard.conf | 04:52 |
| m_tadeu | /dev/hdc { | 04:52 |
| m_tadeu | dma = on | 04:52 |
| m_tadeu | #interrupt_unmask = on | 04:52 |
| m_tadeu | #io32_support = 1 | 04:52 |
| m_tadeu | } | 04:52 |
| mornfall | i mean, apart from hdparm -d1 :-)) | 04:52 |
| mornfall | ah ah | 04:52 |
| twinoatl | does hdparm -d1 save the value somewhere ? | 04:52 |
| m_tadeu | sorry...remove the lines with # | 04:53 |
| m_tadeu | copy/paste from mine :D | 04:53 |
| mornfall | yeah, what m_tadeu says | 04:53 |
| twinoatl | ok, I will edit the file then | 04:54 |
| m_tadeu | it'll be enabled on the next boot | 04:54 |
| twinoatl | with hda instead of hdc | 04:54 |
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| PtitOurs | is there a wiki or thread to help for installing ATI drivers ? | 04:55 |
| m_tadeu | well depends on the hd where your cd is but it should be that | 04:55 |
| twinoatl | it is :-) | 04:55 |
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| twinoatl | can somebody point me to a website explaining cool'n quiet and how to install it ? | 04:57 |
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| bdmp | I got a network set up with this kubuntu and two windows boxes and is great, but I can't I don't have permission to write to the drive of the linux box while using the windows box. Can someone tell me how to fix this? | 04:58 |
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| PtitOurs | exploretofs is a prog to write on linux drives | 05:02 |
| Lathiat | theres a better program | 05:02 |
| Lathiat | IFS *tries to remember the website* | 05:03 |
| Lathiat | www.fs-driver.org | 05:04 |
| Lathiat | works very well | 05:04 |
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| gdh | Lathiat: I think bdmp's problem is with Samba and UNIX permissions for the windows clients.. | 05:05 |
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| Lathiat | gdh: oh, sorry | 05:05 |
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| satafterh | http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_4_2to3_4_3.php | 05:05 |
| gdh | Lathiat: However, thanks for that fs-driver link - I didn't know such progress had been made - thought it was all still readonly from Windows on ext2 :) | 05:07 |
| Lathiat | gdh: yeh, that one is really good, and rock solid | 05:07 |
| gdh | It certainly nullifies the need for NTFS on Linux :) | 05:07 |
| bdmp | I think that is the problem too. I set up the network throught the gui tools so i am not really sure how to get in there and commando line it. | 05:08 |
| gdh | at the minor expense of having to store gigs of NTFS data temporarily while the partition is re-created as ext2 :) | 05:08 |
| twinoatl | can somebody point me to a website explaining cool'n quiet and how to install it ? | 05:08 |
| Lathiat | bdmp: so, if you run 'smbpasswd -a <username>' on a terminal | 05:08 |
| Lathiat | bdmp: you can then login and get to you rhome directory | 05:08 |
| Lathiat | via a windows share | 05:08 |
| Lathiat | no idea if kde has a gui to do that or something | 05:08 |
| gdh | bdmp: Same thing here, I've not used the UI tools for easy network sharing ... | 05:09 |
| Lathiat | theres a gnome tool | 05:10 |
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| bdmp | I am a little confused. I do the command on the linux machine and then I can what? | 05:11 |
| Lathiat | bdmp: if you browse to the linux box from a windows machine, kyou can then login with your user/pass on the linux box an get your homedirectory | 05:11 |
| Lathiat | not sure how to make windows ask you for a user/pass to login | 05:11 |
| bdmp | I can I have full access to the linux box from the windows machine already I just can't write files | 05:12 |
| Lathiat | oh | 05:12 |
| Lathiat | right | 05:12 |
| Lathiat | in your homedir? | 05:12 |
| Lathiat | or some other share you added? | 05:12 |
| bdmp | I shared another directory | 05:12 |
| Lathiat | ok | 05:12 |
| Lathiat | in the config file | 05:12 |
| Lathiat | or with a tool? | 05:12 |
| bdmp | tool | 05:12 |
| Lathiat | which one? | 05:13 |
| bdmp | I just want write permission | 05:13 |
| bdmp | tool | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | which tool | 05:13 |
| bdmp | with the gui tools | 05:13 |
| bdmp | um | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | tell me what you clicked to load that gui tool up | 05:13 |
| satafterh | where to get mplayer updates, or source to add to source list | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | satafterh: what do you need an mplayer update for? | 05:13 |
| BulletXt | hi can someone tell me in what kubuntu is bettes than ubuntu and viceversa? | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | it ishould be relatively up to date | 05:13 |
| satafterh | because I would like to keep upto date, dont you? | 05:14 |
| Lathiat | bdmp: well, if you edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and put "writeable = yes" under the section for yoru share... i have no idea how to do it with the tools or whatever | 05:14 |
| bdmp | system>internet and network> samaba, local network browsing, and samba | 05:15 |
| bdmp | I just messed with thoes till i got it to work | 05:15 |
| bdmp | I learned in windows so i am way more comfortable in a gui | 05:15 |
| m_tadeu | is there a config file to change the usplash image? | 05:16 |
| bdmp | cool | 05:16 |
| bdmp | thanks | 05:16 |
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| bdmp | there is a section that says 'write list' and it says =root | 05:18 |
| bdmp | can I put guest there? | 05:18 |
| twinoatl | what does this means : "powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects" please | 05:20 |
| bdmp | What does "write list - root" in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file mean? | 05:21 |
| satafterh | http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/ for w32codec | 05:21 |
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| bdmp | If I transfer files with the gui and it says "complete 176/180 folders" is there a way for me to see the errors and what files didn't transfer? | 05:25 |
| satafterh | is there a weather tool for linux, I know there is kweather but i do not want to waste any more time trying to get it to work | 05:26 |
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| EricCartman | dvd writing fails (apparenty due to makeisofs) with a fresh breezy install :/ | 05:34 |
| EricCartman | wasted two dvds | 05:34 |
| user0 | man that sux EricCartman | 05:34 |
| user0 | im still debating with myself which cd iso to download to try kubuntu out.. the live or the install cd | 05:35 |
| EricCartman | which distro are you using now | 05:35 |
| user0 | i use gentoo on my main machine | 05:36 |
| EricCartman | well, gentoo is a good distribution | 05:36 |
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| EricCartman | if you're using fc4 or anything like that I'd suggest you to donwload the install CD and install it right away ;) | 05:36 |
| user0 | i know knoppix only had 1 cd for both live and install so that was an easy choice back when i tried it. now, i'm worried about wasting a cd too | 05:37 |
| rikva | I want to install Mplayer, but I need "libdirectfb-0.9-20" for that. It is not in the repositories - what to do? | 05:37 |
| EricCartman | well, if that was gentoo you'd do USE="-directfb" ;) | 05:38 |
| rikva | fine, this is an kubuntu channel ;) | 05:38 |
| EricCartman | rikva: trying to install mplayer from another repository and it has a dependency whch is not on any of the repos you have ? | 05:38 |
| rikva | EricCartman: correct, the marrilat repository | 05:38 |
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| EricCartman | hmm, that ain't good, in my opinion, if a third party repo is providing a package it should provide it's deps too, or make sure official repo has the dep | 05:40 |
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| rikva | it's a little uncompatible | 05:40 |
| rikva | fscking legal stuff | 05:40 |
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| rikva | and I can't find mozilla-mplayer | 05:45 |
| rem_ | hey.. i have a question .. If I dist upgrade will it keep the programs I installed manually (like nvu...) ..? | 05:45 |
| apokryphos | you shouldn't really use the marillat repository | 05:46 |
| rem_ | from hoary to breezer next week .. | 05:46 |
| apokryphos | ubuntu differs quite a bit from it now... using it could break your system | 05:46 |
| rikva | apokryphos: what should I use else? | 05:46 |
| rikva | apokryphos: the wiki says i should | 05:46 |
| apokryphos | rikva: ...for? | 05:46 |
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| rikva | apokryphos: mplayer, libdvdcss2, flash, etcetera | 05:47 |
| apokryphos | they're all in multiverse or hoary-extras | 05:47 |
| apokryphos | !info mplayer-386 | 05:47 |
| ubotu | mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3499 kB, Installed size: 7592 kB | 05:47 |
| apokryphos | which page tells you to use marillat? | 05:47 |
| rikva | apokryphos: i activated those repositories and did an apt-get update, but I still can't find mplayer | 05:48 |
| rem_ | apt-cache search libdirectfb | 05:48 |
| rem_ | libdirectfb-0.9-20 - frame buffer graphics library | 05:48 |
| rem_ | it is there .. | 05:48 |
| rikva | apokryphos: this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-d93d2c4f9433a699fe995b94eae1be4d3c136315 | 05:48 |
| rem_ | u juste need universe or multiverse .. | 05:48 |
| apokryphos | evidently you didn't do it correctly -- as ubotu notes, mplayer is right there. | 05:48 |
| rem_ | maybe .. | 05:48 |
| rikva | I uncommented all the lines | 05:49 |
| rikva | I use breezy btw | 05:49 |
| apokryphos | rikva: pastebin your sources.list then | 05:49 |
| rikva | ok | 05:49 |
| rem_ | hey.. i have a question .. If I dist upgrade will it keep the programs I installed manually (like nvu...) ..? | 05:49 |
| apokryphos | yes | 05:49 |
| rem_ | ok thx | 05:49 |
| apokryphos | whether they'll work isn't entirely guaranteed though | 05:50 |
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| rem_ | lol.. ok i might have to resintall some then ... :P | 05:50 |
| rem_ | @+ | 05:50 |
| StarScream | hi guys, have a g3 ibook. Sleep normally doesn't work...then for a little while it did in breezy. Then i did an apt-get update /upgrade and now it doesn't :( | 05:51 |
| StarScream | is this likely to be fixed before breezy is released | 05:51 |
| StarScream | if not, can i go back to the old working snapshot? | 05:51 |
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| rikva | apokryphos: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/388195 | 05:53 |
| apokryphos | erm, so you didn't actually add multiverse or hoary-extras... | 05:53 |
| apokryphos | !repositories | 05:53 |
| ubotu | repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)) | 05:53 |
| rikva | I didn't? | 05:54 |
| apokryphos | evidently not | 05:54 |
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| rikva | apokryphos: does hoary-extras work with breezy? | 05:56 |
| apokryphos | depends on what for... for dvd-things I'd presume so, yes | 05:56 |
| apokryphos | if you're looking for w32codecs then go to giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ as it was taken out of hoary-extras | 05:56 |
| rikva | I already got w32codecs from marillat :| | 05:57 |
| apokryphos | not sure if that one in particular will give problems, but hey.. | 05:57 |
| rikva | ok, still no mplayer | 05:57 |
| gdh | nah sure it's just .dlls in /usr/lib/win32 | 05:58 |
| apokryphos | rikva: ok, you didn't add multiverse | 05:58 |
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| apokryphos | ok | 05:58 |
| rikva | aaaaaaaah thanks apokryphos | 06:02 |
| rikva | i should've known that earlier | 06:02 |
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| rikva | apokryphos: the problem is that the wiki is ubuntu-specific, the adding repositories part doesn't apply to Kubuntu | 06:05 |
| apokryphos | rikva: not really; you're given an example sources.list | 06:05 |
| apokryphos | (with both of the repositories I mentioned) | 06:06 |
| rikva | apokryphos: I know :) but that's not in the wiki | 06:06 |
| apokryphos | there'll be a guide soon for adding repositories with adept in the official documentation, I'm sure | 06:06 |
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| rikva | :) | 06:06 |
| libben | isnt it easy to add resp without adept =) | 06:07 |
| libben | just edit the sources manually | 06:07 |
| libben | and reload in adept. | 06:07 |
| rikva | I don't use adept | 06:07 |
| libben | me either | 06:07 |
| rikva | I use apt manually, sometimes synaptic | 06:07 |
| rikva | when i'm lazy ;) | 06:07 |
| libben | havent tried it yet! /me feels abit ashamed | 06:07 |
| apokryphos | I use apt manually, sometimes kpackage | 06:07 |
| Chousuke | adept? | 06:07 |
| apokryphos | !adept | 06:08 |
| ubotu | Adept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html | 06:08 |
| libben | using synaptic all the times, unless i know what im really getting | 06:08 |
| Chousuke | oh gods. | 06:08 |
| libben | i like to allways check out the dependecis in a gui | 06:08 |
| Chousuke | yet another package manager :D | 06:08 |
| apokryphos | Chousuke: to be fair, there isn't one that's close to being ideal unfortunately | 06:08 |
| Chousuke | Yeah | 06:09 |
| Chousuke | That add/remove programs thing in Ubuntu is what people need. | 06:09 |
| libben | apokryphos: what is missing in synaptic | 06:09 |
| apokryphos | libben: Qt | 06:10 |
| apokryphos | though, I don't think the UI is perfect | 06:10 |
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| libben | Qr ? | 06:11 |
| apokryphos | though, looking at it now, how do you see the changelog via synaptic? | 06:11 |
| libben | Qt ? | 06:11 |
| libben | that is | 06:11 |
| rikva | synaptic is by far the best of all graphical package managers | 06:11 |
| apokryphos | I prefer KPackage | 06:11 |
| libben | what is Qt? | 06:11 |
| apokryphos | :/ | 06:11 |
| rikva | !qt | 06:11 |
| ubotu | Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package | 06:11 |
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| libben | hmm | 06:13 |
| libben | think i have that allready | 06:13 |
| libben | gonna check | 06:13 |
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| apokryphos | think you have Qt? Err, you wouldn't have any KDE without it, really. | 06:14 |
| libben | =) | 06:15 |
| nikkia | arghhhhh! | 06:15 |
| apokryphos | hola hola | 06:16 |
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| tenco | hi! when i look at pdf-files generated with pdflatex with kpdf or xpdf, they look really ugly. but when i print them out, they look pretty! | 06:16 |
| tenco | how can i fix kpdf/xpdf? | 06:17 |
| rikva | bah i need Flash 8 for this site | 06:17 |
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| inc|freaky | hi all. doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade today showed that kdemultimedia and kdenetwork kdepim and others are beeing held back. im running breezy with kde3.5beta1 ... did any1 upgrade them by hand? | 06:24 |
| mornfall | Chousuke: good you know what people need (unfortunately, you are wrong, since add/remove programs in ubuntu sucks utterly) | 06:25 |
| Chousuke | mornfall: Then they need to make it not suck, since it's what people need. :P | 06:25 |
| Chousuke | It's an easy click-click categorised frontend to installing commonly used apps. | 06:26 |
| mornfall | Chousuke: heh | 06:26 |
| mornfall | Chousuke: commonly used apps should be all installed already | 06:26 |
| Chousuke | Well, not-so-commonly-used-but-often-enough apps then. | 06:27 |
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| mornfall | Chousuke: how do you define that? | 06:28 |
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| Chousuke | mornfall: That is a problem indeed. | 06:29 |
| mornfall | Chousuke: (you sound like getting software searching right was trivial -- i'd suggest you go ahead and do it, then) | 06:29 |
| Sgep | KDE 3.4.3? | 06:29 |
| Chousuke | it could include games, for example | 06:29 |
| mornfall | heh | 06:29 |
| Sgep | What's new in KDE 3.4.3? | 06:29 |
| mornfall | yeah, now, that gives a really good idea how the software manager should look like | 06:30 |
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| Chousuke | mornfall: my point was, synaptic still looks a bit intimidating. | 06:30 |
| mornfall | Sgep: probably just bugfixes | 06:30 |
| inc|freaky | kann man von kde3.5beta1 auf kde3.4.3 downgraden? | 06:30 |
| Chousuke | inc|freaky: I don't speak german, but now. | 06:30 |
| Chousuke | no* | 06:30 |
| mornfall | of course you can... but it'll be a bit more complicated :) | 06:31 |
| inc|freaky | is it possible to downgrade von kde3.5beta1 to 3.4.3? | 06:31 |
| inc|freaky | how to do that? | 06:31 |
| mornfall | inc|freaky: move away all your .kde dirs, etc, first | 06:31 |
| Chousuke | remove KDE packages manually and install the older nes. | 06:31 |
| mornfall | inc|freaky: then uninstall all of kde, remove the repository and install | 06:31 |
| Chousuke | that might work. :P | 06:31 |
| inc|freaky | omg all my settings will be lost | 06:31 |
| inc|freaky | i cant do that | 06:31 |
| mornfall | inc|freaky: there is no downgrade path for conffiles, sorry | 06:32 |
| mornfall | inc|freaky: (you should of course back them up before installing beta) | 06:32 |
| Sgep | "<mornfall> inc|freaky: move away all your .kde dirs, etc, first" | 06:32 |
| inc|freaky | that sucks my kde is looking so nice :( | 06:32 |
| mornfall | inc|freaky: well, definitely make a copy, if you want to use it again with 3.5 | 06:32 |
| mornfall | inc|freaky: you can try using it with 3.4 again, but expect things to break in various ways | 06:33 |
| inc|freaky | i think ill stay at kde3.5beta1 | 06:33 |
| robin_2 | are the difference between kde3.4.3 and 3.5beta1 significant? | 06:35 |
| m_tadeu | yep... | 06:37 |
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| Boronk | how do I enable middle-mosuebutton paste in firefox, so that it opens a url? | 06:41 |
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| Boronk | like it was in the good old unix days? | 06:42 |
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| pon | hi | 06:45 |
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| Boronk | am i the only one who annoys this? | 06:47 |
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| user0 | doesnt it paste when you middle click the web page / tab? | 06:48 |
| Boronk | no | 06:48 |
| Boronk | i found it | 06:48 |
| user0 | bummer | 06:48 |
| user0 | what was it | 06:49 |
| Boronk | this is fuckin default behavior to make in more windows-complient | 06:49 |
| Boronk | middlemouse.contentLoadURL | 06:49 |
| user0 | oi! | 06:49 |
| m0ns00n | Hey | 06:49 |
| user0 | what are they thinking | 06:49 |
| carlson | I have a problem with Breezy Release Candidate. . . wondering if anyone else has had it. . | 06:49 |
| m0ns00n | Is it possible to use the old nvidia drivers with breezy? | 06:49 |
| m0ns00n | carlson: try me, I'm using it now | 06:49 |
| Boronk | Its like copy und paste in openoffice | 06:49 |
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| Boronk | too much windows in the developers head | 06:50 |
| Boronk | btw | 06:50 |
| m_tadeu | i'm using it too | 06:50 |
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| Boronk | i just converted my powerbox from gentoo | 06:50 |
| carlson | In the control Panel you have 'Network Cards' and in order to enable or disable a setting you have to input yourself into adminstrator mode. | 06:50 |
| carlson | The Administrator key does not function. . . | 06:51 |
| mister_roboto | m0ns00n: lots of people seem to have issues getting the old drivers to compile in breezy | 06:51 |
| mister_roboto | m0ns00n: i was just talking to a guy last night and the driver had a syntax error trying to compile on breezy | 06:52 |
| robin_2 | carlson: works here | 06:52 |
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| robin_2 | carlson: have you entered the password? | 06:52 |
| robin_2 | carlson: sometime it seems the dialog is not showed. | 06:52 |
| carlson | you can't enter the password. . . . | 06:52 |
| robin_2 | try again, by closing the settings panel. | 06:53 |
| carlson | This has also happened on previous beta versions of Breezy | 06:53 |
| robin_2 | carlson: I'm up2date, and now problems with it. | 06:53 |
| robin_2 | *no | 06:53 |
| carlson | You have problems also with it? | 06:54 |
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| robin_2 | carlson: nope | 06:54 |
| m0ns00n | mister_roboto: I had trouble in Hoary as well, so I got the drivers from Warty, but then I needed the warty kernel as well | 06:55 |
| carlson | It baffles me. . ... | 06:55 |
| m0ns00n | mister_roboto: So I wonder, they still didn't care for us Geforce users in Ubuntu, and we still need to use Warty elements in Breezy? | 06:55 |
| robin_2 | my sound stutters when I start a program.. | 06:55 |
| robin_2 | so it stutters while there is hdd activity | 06:56 |
| robin_2 | anoying. | 06:56 |
| robin_2 | btw what is gam_server? | 06:57 |
| robin_2 | it eats 56% of my 1GB ram. | 06:57 |
| carlson | It's strange that this has happened on this newest Release Candidate and previous beta releases. ... | 06:57 |
| robin_2 | yes | 06:57 |
| m0ns00n | carlson: The sound issue is here as well, on this hoary box | 06:58 |
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| robin_2 | carlson: did you update ? or a clean install of RC1? | 06:58 |
| carlson | It also has the same problem when you try to get into Kwifi | 06:58 |
| carlson | RC1 was a clean install | 06:58 |
| carlson | My wifi card works beautifully in Ubuntu. . . . | 06:59 |
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| robin_2 | wtf, why does the sound don't have high priority.. | 06:59 |
| robin_2 | it should run real-time. | 06:59 |
| carlson | The specific problem is that the software won't let you input in the adminstrator mode changes to enable or disable the network cards it finds. . . . | 07:00 |
| robin_2 | carlson: so you get in admin mode | 07:00 |
| robin_2 | carlson: but can't change the enable/disable/ | 07:00 |
| robin_2 | ? | 07:00 |
| carlson | No I can't enter adminstrator mode. . .it won't allow input of a password. . . . | 07:01 |
| robin_2 | hmm my kubuntu is crashing.. | 07:01 |
| robin_2 | it stutters continusly | 07:01 |
| kkathman | Good Day all :) | 07:03 |
| robin_2 | nice no i can't close any programms | 07:03 |
| robin_2 | *now | 07:03 |
| robin_2 | hmm.. :/ | 07:03 |
| carlson | That's the problem in a nutshell. I can't enable or disable network card settings because adminstrator mode won't allow input of a password. . . . | 07:04 |
| robin_2 | sefaults all the way.. time for reboot. | 07:04 |
| carlson | Anyone else have this problem??? | 07:05 |
| carlson | By the way I'm using Suse 10 right now (quite a improvement over 9.3). .. | 07:05 |
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| kkathman | carlson: I could never get SuSE to recognise all my diverse hardware I have ... thats what I liked about Ubuntu :) | 07:07 |
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| carlson | I had Ubuntu on my system the other day. (Release Candidate)It works very well. . .. | 07:08 |
| kkathman | I have three diverse boxes. Two of them are older hardware that I would have just tossed out, had I not been able to run Ubuntu on them | 07:09 |
| carlson | I have another machine (64-bit) with newest hardware. . . .am waiting to put a Linux system on it. . . have to experiment around with them all to find the one that will work the best. | 07:09 |
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| kkathman | carlson: Yah I have a 64-bit machine also, but its Windows XP-Pro based. | 07:10 |
| robin | carlson: i'm also running amd64 version. | 07:10 |
| carlson | I've got XP on it also. . . .but am waiting to find the perfect Linux candidate to put onto it. . .. | 07:11 |
| robin | carlson: btw, don't know what the GAM server is for, but it did crashes all my software.. | 07:11 |
| kkathman | carlson: yep Im not sure I know of a perfect Linux to run on 64 right now. Some are better than others, but they are harder to maintain too | 07:11 |
| robin | carlson: ubuntu runs very well on amd64 | 07:12 |
| robin | carlson: i had also run debian64 for months.. | 07:12 |
| carlson | That's why I am waiting and checking out them all. | 07:12 |
| carlson | I've had Wifi problems with Sarge Debian and had to drop it completely. . .. | 07:13 |
| robin | hmm, ubuntu and debian are very similiar | 07:13 |
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| robin | logical since it is based on debian :) | 07:13 |
| carlson | Had nothing but problems getting Wifi to work in Debian. ... | 07:13 |
| robin | i dont' think you have to drop a distro because of such problems.. | 07:14 |
| carlson | Well I still have my eyes on it. . . . | 07:14 |
| rikva | !java | 07:14 |
| ubotu | rumour has it, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java | 07:14 |
| robin | kubuntu is just debian, but than better | 07:14 |
| carlson | I've tried to use Gentoo and others. . .. alot of problems. . . . | 07:14 |
| rikva | apokryphos: what was that really good way to install java? | 07:14 |
| rikva | apokryphos: sun java, that is | 07:14 |
| robin | I have tried, fedora also and mandrive, but don't like them | 07:15 |
| robin | i'm debian-based minded :D | 07:15 |
| carlson | Redhat and Fedora systems don't support my Wifi | 07:15 |
| carlson | Tried them to no avail..... | 07:15 |
| robin | what do you have? | 07:15 |
| robin | you are using ndiswrapper? | 07:16 |
| kkathman | yah Fedora is too big to install on some of the hardware I have..and it seems sluggish too | 07:16 |
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| carlson | Believe or not I couldn't get ndiswrapper to work with my windows exe file (I've got a WG311 Netgear Atheros chipset Wifi card. . .) | 07:16 |
| kkathman | dont like mandriva cuz they are too commerical | 07:17 |
| rikva | apokryphos: found it | 07:17 |
| robin | im using ndiswrapper with wpc54g | 07:17 |
| robin | it works | 07:17 |
| robin | okay | 07:17 |
| robin | with debian and ubuntu | 07:17 |
| Boronk | fucking wpc54g | 07:17 |
| Boronk | mine has one of the first | 07:17 |
| Boronk | without wpa support | 07:17 |
| robin | Boronk really ? I got also an old one, but I even run it with the GS drivers :) | 07:18 |
| robin | Boronk and wpa also. | 07:18 |
| robin | I haven't tried breezy on my laptop yet, but does it supports ndiswrapper out-of-the-box? | 07:19 |
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| carlson | Good talking to you guys. . ..got to leave. . . . | 07:20 |
| robin | cy | 07:20 |
| robin | a | 07:20 |
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| m_tadeu | i managed to put my webcam to work...installed kdetv and i can seen the image...but its on pink and white...kinda weird, heim | 07:25 |
| robin | maybe some overlay settings? | 07:26 |
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| m_tadeu | mmm...where can I check that? | 07:26 |
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| m_tadeu | if i change the DAC magnitude, it goes to pink and green :P | 07:37 |
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| bz0b | hey all | 07:39 |
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| jago | hello, can any body remind me what file i need to modify to make kde auto mount a partition | 07:42 |
| m_tadeu | /etc/fstab | 07:42 |
| jago | thanks | 07:43 |
| jago | i had to completely rinstall kubuntu, the dist upgrade messed up every thing and i could not log in any more | 07:43 |
| m_tadeu | check this site | 07:44 |
| m_tadeu | http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html | 07:44 |
| JepZ | hi, do anyone know mondo (the program)? is it a good prog? | 07:44 |
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| jago | thanks it has been a while since i did this the last time the refresher was needed. | 07:47 |
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| macavity | 'lo peeps | 07:49 |
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| inc|freaky | hey macavity :) | 07:50 |
| penguinboy | when is openoffice 2.0 stable going to be released? | 07:51 |
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| tucoz | Hi, I just recently installed kubuntu breezy. I noticed that some programs are not added to the menu when I install them with apt-get | 07:52 |
| tucoz | this is for instance pingus and dia. | 07:52 |
| robin_2 | tucoz: did u try to re-logon ? | 07:52 |
| tucoz | robin_, no :) | 07:53 |
| tucoz | that might solve it. I didn't think that was needed, as a lot of packages programs are added without a re-logon. | 07:54 |
| macavity | penguinboy: as soon as they have verified that RC2 is stable enough to be re-tagged as Stable(TM) | 07:54 |
| robin_2 | tucoz: it is just a guess :) | 07:54 |
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| tucoz | ok | 07:54 |
| penguinboy | and Badger is released stable this coming Friday???? | 07:54 |
| eikke | quick question: when one installs kubuntu on his machine, is GTK installed too? | 07:54 |
| macavity | penguinboy: it certainly apears so :) | 07:54 |
| robin_2 | probably | 07:55 |
| robin_2 | for openoffice i guess | 07:55 |
| penguinboy | great!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 07:55 |
| eikke | robin_2: thanks | 07:55 |
| macavity | eikke: yup.. GTK is still a must if you dont want a crippled desktop | 07:55 |
| tucoz | I wonder why the bluetooth stuff is installed in breezy, although I do not have bluetooth on my laptop. | 07:56 |
| eikke | great | 07:56 |
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| robin_2 | tucoz: you can buy bluetooth adapters | 07:56 |
| robin_2 | tucoz: :) | 07:56 |
| tucoz | and if I try to remove those packages, synaptic tells me it want to remove kde-desktop as well. | 07:56 |
| tucoz | robin_2: yes, sure, but I am not going to. | 07:57 |
| robin_2 | tucoz: do you need the space? | 07:57 |
| macavity | tucoz: unfortunately there is no such thing as "lose dependencies" :-/ | 07:57 |
| macavity | lose? loose? luse? | 07:58 |
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| tucoz | No, I don't need the space. (loose) | 07:58 |
| macavity | it would be nice to have that kind of arangement.. that it installs loose dependencies by default, but will let you remove them if you want | 07:59 |
| robin_2 | can't you force it? | 07:59 |
| robin_2 | although i won't recommend that :) | 07:59 |
| macavity | me neither | 07:59 |
| macavity | i think zeroconf will get pissed if it cant load the .so files it needs :P | 07:59 |
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| robin_2 | can someone try if he can share a folder with right-clicking on a folder -> share | 08:00 |
| macavity | they should *really* start getting the habbit of ldopen things instead of linking directly | 08:00 |
| robin_2 | I get still an error message about a perl script that needs to be suid root. | 08:00 |
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| EricCartman | is there high quality additional repositories that we can add ? | 08:01 |
| tucoz | btw, do you know if it is possible to make kubuntu boot faster if no network is used. It takes a really long time now, when the boot process searches for network | 08:01 |
| macavity | EricCartman: what do you have in mind? | 08:01 |
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| robin_2 | tucoz: you can ctrl+c skip the dchp lookup | 08:02 |
| EricCartman | well, I'm trying to compile kdelibs, and many things are missing, and apparently those dev packages are missing in official repo, such as bzip2 and openssl | 08:02 |
| robin_2 | *dhcp | 08:02 |
| tucoz | robin_2, really? cool. So, when the boot states "searching for network.." I can just ctrl+c? | 08:02 |
| tucoz | great | 08:02 |
| EricCartman | and obviously I doN't want to install those by hand | 08:02 |
| robin_2 | tucoz: it worked in hoary | 08:02 |
| macavity | tucoz: you can append the timeout switch (cant remember the --foobar exactly) to make it stop searching for a dhcp server if it doesnt respond in 1 sec | 08:02 |
| slomo | does someone know who "Andreas Mussgiller <muszilla@users.sourceforge.net>" is? he packaged kdar and uploaded it to REVU | 08:02 |
| tucoz | macavity, ok. goodie | 08:03 |
| robin_2 | can some try the part I said about sharing? | 08:03 |
| tucoz | robin_2: what do you mean? | 08:03 |
| robin_2 | try to share a folder: right click on a folder -> share | 08:04 |
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| robin_2 | so it can be shared through samba | 08:04 |
| robin_2 | it gives an error.. | 08:04 |
| macavity | robin_2: which one exactly? | 08:04 |
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| robin_2 | macavity: error message? | 08:05 |
| robin_2 | macavity: | 08:05 |
| macavity | robin_2: yes, word-for-word, what does it say? | 08:05 |
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| robin_2 | macavity: An error occured while trying to share folder '/home/robin/school'. Make sure that the Perl script 'fileshareset' is set suid root. | 08:06 |
| robin_2 | it happens when i check Shared, and than click OK. | 08:06 |
| macavity | robin_2: find "fileshareset" and see if it exists, if it does, make it suid | 08:07 |
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| robin_2 | macavity: chmod +s ? | 08:08 |
| macavity | uhm.. actually i dont remember :P | 08:08 |
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| macavity | do it from kde under the advanced permissions thingie | 08:08 |
| robin_2 | macavity: hehe ok, but isn't this a bug? | 08:09 |
| macavity | that depends :P | 08:09 |
| robin_2 | depends on what? | 08:09 |
| macavity | id say its a security flaw to have scripts run suid... | 08:09 |
| robin_2 | yeah, but this is of course not very user-friendly | 08:10 |
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| macavity | it should be a binary.. | 08:10 |
| robin_2 | btw, it seems i can leave the password fields in administrator mode empty.. isn't that weird. | 08:10 |
| macavity | its way to easy to trick the perl shell into dumping you a suid shell | 08:10 |
| robin_2 | macavity: inform the developers :) | 08:11 |
| macavity | they know.. trust me.. they know | 08:11 |
| macavity | im just a very little tiny fish in this lake ;P | 08:11 |
| robin_2 | :) | 08:12 |
| blueyed | I have "Terminal Sessions Menu" docked in my panel. But there does not pop up the list anymore. Of course I have session in "Configure Konsole".. (Breezy, kde 3.5b1 from kubuntu.org). hints? | 08:12 |
| robin_2 | -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 10997 2005-10-05 15:40 /usr/bin/fileshareset | 08:12 |
| robin_2 | this is right? | 08:12 |
| macavity | looks right | 08:13 |
| robin_2 | gives same error. | 08:13 |
| macavity | but since im at a stinkdoze in an internet cafe i cant check | 08:13 |
| robin_2 | now it's a real bug :D ? | 08:13 |
| robin_2 | hehe | 08:13 |
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| macavity | btw, and you may quote me on this one,: "mIRC sucks mule's bollocks!" :-/ | 08:14 |
| robin_2 | :) | 08:15 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | Bersirc or Klient are the way to go if you're using Windows | 08:15 |
| Chousuke | Bah | 08:15 |
| Chousuke | Irssi is Universal | 08:15 |
| robin_2 | x-chat | 08:16 |
| macavity | s/using/being confined to without priviledges/ :-/ | 08:16 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | macavity: Ouch | 08:16 |
| macavity | so unless someone makes a java-applet which can act as an X client to one of your machines, im pretty stuck ;) | 08:17 |
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| robin_2 | you can get out of the cafe | 08:17 |
| macavity | but what the heck.. in January ill get my own connect | 08:17 |
| robin_2 | lol | 08:18 |
| robin_2 | you don't have internet connection ? | 08:18 |
| macavity | robin_2: its not much better at school.. we have a 155MBit line.. and a fcsking proxy that will only let me do http and http-representation-of-ftp | 08:18 |
| macavity | i cant even copy an entire directory.. nooo-nooo.. one file at the time mister! | 08:19 |
| robin_2 | :) | 08:19 |
| macavity | robin_2: unfortunately not :-/ | 08:19 |
| robin_2 | January... long time | 08:19 |
| macavity | actually not.. the only time i have for IRC'ing is on sundays.. the rest of the week im bussy like all hell was loose | 08:20 |
| macavity | im doing the equivalent of high-school and the fist year of collage in just 18 months.. so we "keep a steady pace" if you like :P | 08:21 |
| robin_2 | macavity: I should be busy like hell, but i'm not.. not a good thing either. | 08:23 |
| robin_2 | doing University. | 08:23 |
| macavity | been there, done that ;-) | 08:23 |
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| robin_2 | i'm going for Master :) | 08:23 |
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| macavity | thats why im trying to do the shortcut now.. im 28 and i've just begun getting my education | 08:24 |
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| macavity | hehe.. im going for a Master in CS | 08:24 |
| robin_2 | me HMI | 08:24 |
| robin_2 | but | 08:24 |
| macavity | and if i develop a taste for it, then perhaps a PhD | 08:24 |
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| macavity | whats HMI? | 08:24 |
| robin_2 | yeah and than you never have to work, becasue you will be 80 by than | 08:24 |
| robin_2 | human media interaction | 08:25 |
| macavity | ah | 08:25 |
| robin_2 | speech technology, AI etc. | 08:25 |
| macavity | i'll recruit you when i've done my PhD in microkernel/multiserver OSes ;-) | 08:25 |
| robin_2 | hehe :P | 08:26 |
| robin_2 | i probably own already MS and Google by than. | 08:26 |
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| macavity | will there be a MS by then? :P | 08:27 |
| robin_2 | no, right i will change the name. | 08:27 |
| macavity | butch it and port office to POSIX ;-) | 08:27 |
| macavity | as GPL naturally | 08:28 |
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| robin_2 | sry i have to make money | 08:28 |
| robin_2 | !=GPL | 08:28 |
| ubotu | robin_2: Did you get hit by a windmill? | 08:28 |
| robin_2 | none nearby, so no. | 08:28 |
| macavity | they try selling what MS has never been able to sell: "Good Support(TM)" | 08:29 |
| robin_2 | does it make you rich? | 08:29 |
| macavity | its a misconception that you cant make money on GPL software | 08:29 |
| robin_2 | okay let me refrase it in: sry i have to make BIG money :) | 08:29 |
| macavity | Qt sells lofs of support to companies using Qt-GPL in-house | 08:29 |
| macavity | aaahhh.. the *greed factor* ;-) | 08:30 |
| robin_2 | or.. I have to pay ppl to much money for the buggy software I create | 08:30 |
| robin_2 | *let ppl pay | 08:30 |
| robin_2 | -typo's | 08:30 |
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| macavity | bye | 08:31 |
| robin|away | brb | 08:31 |
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| bz0b | so what is there to do with a fresh install of kubuntu other then apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get upgrade? | 08:56 |
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| ken | Hello everyone | 08:57 |
| bz0b | hey ken | 08:57 |
| bz0b | brb | 08:57 |
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| bz0b | k back, so any ideas on what to do with new install of kubuntu other then upgrade everything? | 08:58 |
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| BlankB | What else do you need to do? | 09:00 |
| bz0b | well, i installed firefox, gaim, and xchat too, but don't know what else i want to do | 09:00 |
| bz0b | hmm | 09:00 |
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| macavity | just go ahead and use it? ;-) | 09:01 |
| bz0b | well it would be nice if i could get those online poker games working on here | 09:01 |
| bz0b | but the only ones are .exe's | 09:01 |
| bz0b | and i have cedega | 09:01 |
| BlankB | Here is everything I do after a fresh install: (this was for 5.04) http://wiki.anomalytv.com/tavi/index.php?page=UbuntuKubuntu | 09:02 |
| macavity | why install a free software OS if the fist thing you do is install every trojan propietary binary you can get your hands on? ;-) | 09:04 |
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| BlankB | Ideology vs. useabliltiy. | 09:04 |
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| macavity | <mode=RMS> If you dont support a decent idology, you *will* end up having to re-define usability with "what they think i should do" </mode> :P | 09:06 |
| macavity | but never mind.. im just in the arguing mood today.. as long as i get to run all Free, then do as you please | 09:07 |
| `Nomad | All right, I'm about to burn the Breezy DVD, an dthen do a fresh install.... :D | 09:08 |
| macavity | `Nomad: hit it! :) | 09:10 |
| `Nomad | I've been using Thunderbird for email.. Is Evolution a better choice? | 09:11 |
| macavity | i prefere KMail.. so i wouldnt know | 09:11 |
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| BlankB | `Nomad: I have used both and like them both. I am using Thunderbird currently. | 09:13 |
| beast | what's the quickest way to install the nvidia drivers on kubuntu? | 09:13 |
| `Nomad | yeah.. I think I'll stick to it.. I like that it's so easy to transfer the data to any platform | 09:13 |
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| libben | beast: its allmost the newest as default | 09:15 |
| libben | unless u have the newest gfx card that really requiers the newest driver | 09:15 |
| libben | u dont need the latest | 09:15 |
| macavity | ? | 09:15 |
| beast | libben: what's the best way to enable that? i enabled it in the xorg.conf using nvidia instead of nv | 09:16 |
| macavity | thats how you do it.. | 09:16 |
| libben | beast: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 09:17 |
| libben | and choose nvidia instead of nv in the menu when it comes to it | 09:17 |
| libben | and just hit enter on everything else u dont know what to set there..... and when u comes to the monitor part. be sure to set the right horizontal values and vertical. then u got good screen resolutions also | 09:18 |
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| beast | do i want to disable any of the modules, such as glx or dri? | 09:19 |
| macavity | beast: if you want to know how to use nvidia's agp driver, look at this: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=149&p_created=1100107993&p_sid=SemRJCRh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NzImcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0wJnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfZm5sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9YWdwIGxpbnV4&p_li=&p_topview=1 | 09:19 |
| macavity | ouch.. sorry.. didnt see it was ugly :-/ | 09:19 |
| beast | hehe | 09:19 |
| macavity | anyways.. its easy enough to do it :P | 09:19 |
| beast | just keep the default modules? | 09:19 |
| macavity | yup | 09:20 |
| macavity | the nv driver loads GLX by itself if you dont specify it yourself, IIRC | 09:20 |
| beast | ok good | 09:21 |
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| beast | now, just a alt+ctrl+backspace to test it? | 09:21 |
| macavity | dont forget to save it first ;-) | 09:22 |
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| beast | yes, the reconfig setup saved it | 09:22 |
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| macavity | hit it, and lets see if you are in for an all-nighter or just the usual yay-it-worked :P | 09:23 |
| beast | if for some reason it doesn't work, how can i launch X again after editing the xorg.conf from console | 09:24 |
| macavity | startx | 09:24 |
| beast | alright, i'll give this a shot, hope to talk again soon ;) | 09:24 |
| jago | i keep getting this mesage when i try to use my dvd rom "The file or folder media:/hdc does not exist." can any one help | 09:24 |
| macavity | beast: always, always have irssi or bitchx or something installed... | 09:25 |
| macavity | beast: that way you can get back for help, even if the system will only boot up in single-user mode | 09:25 |
| beast | ok :) | 09:26 |
| beast | kubuntu live cd works well too ;) | 09:26 |
| macavity | that they do.. that they do :P | 09:26 |
| bz0b | hey macavity when i uncomment the backports in my sources.list file, and i run apt-get update, it never resolves those | 09:26 |
| macavity | bz0b: im new to the debian system.. i dont know much about it yet | 09:26 |
| macavity | bz0b: ive been running slackware and LFS for years.. but only *ubunty for a short while | 09:27 |
| bz0b | LFS? | 09:27 |
| LadyFrost | I've got a weird problem (I think). I recently bought an mp3-player and today I tried to plug it in to my kubuntu desktop computer. It automounts, and I can copy files from it, but I can't remove nor add files. ...help? | 09:27 |
| macavity | Linux From Scratch | 09:27 |
| bz0b | ah | 09:28 |
| bz0b | is it hard to make your own distro with that program? | 09:28 |
| macavity | its not a program... its a book | 09:28 |
| bz0b | ah | 09:28 |
| bz0b | well | 09:28 |
| bz0b | is it hard to make your own distro? | 09:28 |
| BlankB | bz0b: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports universe multiverse | 09:29 |
| bz0b | BlankB, i use 5.10 | 09:29 |
| bz0b | BlankB, i use 5.10 | 09:29 |
| bz0b | woops | 09:29 |
| bz0b | sorry | 09:29 |
| BlankB | doh. | 09:29 |
| macavity | bz0b: "disto" is such a big word you know.. you can do a 100% custom install of everything... eventually | 09:30 |
| macavity | bz0b: but i would net reccomend that you stray from the book the first few times you do it | 09:30 |
| edulix | what is the "KDE System Settings - Easier Control Centre" mentioned in breezy RC announcement ? | 09:30 |
| bz0b | about how many pages is the book? | 09:30 |
| macavity | bz0b: but it is an absolute must if you *really* want to learn something about how a GNU/Linux system is put together | 09:31 |
| macavity | bz0b: go have a look :P | 09:31 |
| bz0b | sure | 09:31 |
| macavity | www.linuxfromscratch.org | 09:31 |
| macavity | once you are done with that, there is always the BLFS to crunch... no matter how big iron you have, thats going to take some time to compile ;) | 09:32 |
| BlankB | bz0b: then its: <code>debhttp://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/hoary-extrasmainuniversemultiverserestricted</code> | 09:32 |
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| bz0b | BlankB, screw it, i hear that backports are broken anyways, and rather not use them, and just use universe instead | 09:33 |
| thompa | hi everyone need some advice | 09:33 |
| edulix | and what about that katapult ? is it a new branch of development? | 09:33 |
| edulix | (the initial developed stopped) | 09:34 |
| macavity | thompa: shoot :) | 09:34 |
| thompa | i installed ubuntu breezy, and tried to install kde from synaptic, probably wrong | 09:34 |
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| thompa | i installed (cant remember) kde, kde-desktop, later kubuntu | 09:35 |
| thompa | whats the prefeered way to get kde? | 09:35 |
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| thompa | apt-get install kubuntu? | 09:36 |
| macavity | thompa: sounds like the wrong oder to me :P | 09:36 |
| LadyFrost | thompa: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ? | 09:36 |
| thompa | it caused some problems, i had white text windows in gnome, and also the gnome menus were classic kde theme | 09:37 |
| nxv_ | hi, i got my usb soundblaster device displayed in kmix but dont get any sound from the device. anysuggestions? | 09:37 |
| thompa | ive sinced removed kde but am going to put it back | 09:37 |
| thompa | LadyFrost: thanks. knew it was simple | 09:37 |
| LadyFrost | :) | 09:38 |
| thompa | is anyone else running both gnome and kde encountering any problems? | 09:38 |
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| Tm_T | uhm | 09:38 |
| LadyFrost | Has anybody got a spare moment to solve my little problem? I've got an mp3-player that gets automounted, but as read-only. Not very useful for a mp3-player. How do I get it to automount itself as read-write? | 09:39 |
| thompa | on my notebook it starts with kubuntu and ends up on ubuntu login screen | 09:39 |
| LadyFrost | thompa: No. I've got both kde and gnome and haven't got any problems. | 09:39 |
| LadyFrost | you get gdm instead of kdm? | 09:40 |
| macavity | LadyFrost: check /etc/fstab and see what options it gets mounted with? | 09:40 |
| thompa | LadyFrost: how do you deal with desktop icons? | 09:40 |
| LadyFrost | macavity: That's the weird thing. I can't find it in fstab. How do I get it there? | 09:40 |
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| LadyFrost | thompa: huh? What do you mean? | 09:40 |
| macavity | hmm | 09:40 |
| macavity | then i think its done by hotplug | 09:40 |
| macavity | where does it get mounted? | 09:40 |
| thompa | if i create a shortcut on desktop or launcher in gnome in kde its blanc or missing text | 09:41 |
| LadyFrost | macavity: in /media/usbdisk/ | 09:41 |
| beast | macavity: Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667 | 09:41 |
| LadyFrost | If I try to remove or add stuff to it it says "file system read-only" | 09:41 |
| thompa | if i go back to change the properties of a desktop item in one desktop its broke in the other | 09:41 |
| macavity | beast: download the nvidia one, and ask it to compile the module | 09:42 |
| macavity | beast: never trust your vendor for drivers you can compile yourself ;-D | 09:42 |
| bz0b | anyone know of any virtual pc's for linux?> | 09:42 |
| macavity | QEMU or Bochs | 09:42 |
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| thompa | eg if i create a launcher for bzflag in gnome, its called ? in kde and no picture icon | 09:43 |
| thompa | and visa versa | 09:43 |
| macavity | or WMware if you have a propietary fetish | 09:43 |
| beast | macavity: which one do i want to download? | 09:43 |
| LadyFrost | thompa: I haven't ever had any desktop icons, so I don't really know what to do :/ | 09:43 |
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| macavity | beast: QEMU with the DMA patch, or QEMU CVS | 09:44 |
| thompa | i may have to avoid them | 09:44 |
| beast | macavity: where may i find that one? | 09:44 |
| macavity | the CVS or the patched version? | 09:44 |
| LadyFrost | Please don't kill me, but I tried the mp3-player with my boyfriends ubuntu-computer yesterday, and then I could add songs. | 09:44 |
| thompa | but its on 3 different installs. i think i need to create a desktop config. directory for each or something | 09:44 |
| beast | macavity: whichever will be the best | 09:45 |
| macavity | beast: go to the qemu homepage for cvs instructions, and follow them? | 09:45 |
| beast | macavity: i tried the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7174-pkg1 but that didn't work either | 09:45 |
| macavity | what?!? | 09:45 |
| thompa | can i ask an opinion here regarding desktops? | 09:46 |
| macavity | thompa: sure | 09:46 |
| thompa | do you stick with one or use both or whats advised? | 09:46 |
| macavity | you can ask anything you like.. just dont *expect* people to ansver | 09:46 |
| macavity | i stick to KDE only | 09:46 |
| thompa | kde folks are so much nicer | 09:47 |
| beast | macavity: i'm not sure what you are talking about... i don't need qemu | 09:47 |
| LadyFrost | I use kde only. | 09:47 |
| macavity | .. unless im setting up a server.. then i use a stripped down GNOME | 09:47 |
| macavity | beast: sorry! | 09:47 |
| beast | macavity: hehe | 09:47 |
| macavity | beast: miss typed you for bz0b | 09:47 |
| beast | macavity: that's ok | 09:47 |
| beast | macavity: i'm not sure how to proceed | 09:48 |
| thompa | macavity: gnome for server i like too | 09:48 |
| LadyFrost | uhm, server with X? | 09:48 |
| beast | macavity: it should pretty much work out of the box shouldn't it? that reconfigure should have made it find the correct driver | 09:48 |
| macavity | LadyFrost: X is nice when you have like 25 terminals with ssh connects ;-) | 09:48 |
| thompa | maybe I should use kde since thats what i know and use gnome for my remote mail server | 09:48 |
| LadyFrost | macavity: But.. On a server... you don't usually even have a screen. | 09:49 |
| macavity | beast: i would never have used the reconfigure or aptget for this in the first place.. | 09:49 |
| macavity | LadyFrost: i do :) | 09:49 |
| beast | macavity: can you give me some steps | 09:49 |
| LadyFrost | macavity: ahok. | 09:49 |
| thompa | no i ssh in and then change to root | 09:49 |
| thompa | remote | 09:49 |
| thompa | gnome has connect to server utility in "places" | 09:51 |
| macavity | beast: not really.. im unfortunately in stinkdoze, and i dont know what those scripts did to your machine :-/ | 09:51 |
| beast | macavity: i have nvidia-glx installed 1.0.7667-0ubuntu23 | 09:51 |
| macavity | try and remove it altogether | 09:51 |
| macavity | then reconfigure again | 09:51 |
| macavity | then install the one from nvidia | 09:52 |
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| macavity | then hack the xorg.conf by hand | 09:52 |
| beast | which version from nvidia? | 09:52 |
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| macavity | latest | 09:52 |
| Mithsir | How do I make OOo2 look more KDEish? I installed the ooo-kde package, but the menus still look strange. | 09:52 |
| macavity | whatever nvidia.com spits at y9ou :P | 09:52 |
| beast | 1.0-7676? | 09:52 |
| macavity | if thats the latest | 09:52 |
| beast | what about it saying i dont have the latest module? do i need the kernel source? | 09:53 |
| macavity | if you remove all the old junk, clean up the configfile, compile your own, and then hack the configfile by hand | 09:54 |
| macavity | .. then i have a real hard time seeing what could go wrong | 09:54 |
| thompa | i noticed there is both KDE desktop and kubuntu-desktop available | 09:54 |
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| macavity | its a prcedure ive been over so many times i even sometimes dream about it :P | 09:54 |
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| beast | this is a pretty fresh install... it came with nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-glx i believe | 09:55 |
| macavity | ditch everything intalled by apt that has the name nvidia in it | 09:55 |
| beast | ok | 09:56 |
| beast | then just run the installer and i should be ok? or do i need to find a nvidia-kernel-source package somewhere? | 09:56 |
| macavity | then do it the right way by hand :P | 09:56 |
| macavity | the nvidia installer comes with everything you need | 09:56 |
| beast | ok, good | 09:57 |
| macavity | its just object files that it links according to your kernel headers | 09:57 |
| beast | here i go again, talk in a bit :) | 09:57 |
| thompa | macavity: is having both KDE and kubuntu available in synaptic going to confuse things? | 09:58 |
| thompa | i think installing kde gives you the basic kde desktop? | 09:58 |
| macavity | thompa: i dont know | 09:58 |
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| thompa | i dont want to try it again, and am going to just install kubuntu | 09:59 |
| macavity | sounds like the right tool for the job ;) | 09:59 |
| thompa | but i dont think its wise to install both. i was getting kde half-baked, | 10:01 |
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| thompa | was running gdm though, who knows | 10:01 |
| thompa | well here i go. thanks | 10:01 |
| macavity | its kind of the same as wanting your car to have two different engines that you can switch between | 10:02 |
| macavity | or so to speak :P | 10:02 |
| thompa | oh | 10:03 |
| thompa | do you mean kde and gnome or gdm and kdm? | 10:03 |
| macavity | both, or all four if you like :P | 10:04 |
| thompa | does kubuntu use kdm? | 10:04 |
| macavity | naa.. its the KDE and GNOME integration with the system that i think can step on eachothers toes | 10:04 |
| thompa | macavity: message just pooped up kdm or gdm? | 10:04 |
| thompa | does it matter? | 10:04 |
| macavity | not really | 10:05 |
| thompa | gdm was giving me trouble maybe | 10:05 |
| thompa | which is prettier? | 10:05 |
| macavity | dont think so.. they both obey to whats in ~/.xinitrc | 10:05 |
| macavity | KDM... as it looks kde'ish :P | 10:06 |
| thompa | i had t reinstall gdm a couple of times earlier | 10:06 |
| macavity | sounds like your install is boked all up | 10:06 |
| macavity | borked, even | 10:06 |
| thompa | had some blank logout windows | 10:06 |
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| thompa | :>) | 10:07 |
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| fiotjb | test | 10:22 |
| schmely | test workz fine | 10:23 |
| libben | how many in here have made lfs | 10:23 |
| fiotjb | that's right ;) | 10:23 |
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| fiotjb | what's lfs ? | 10:24 |
| libben | linux from scratch | 10:24 |
| libben | ideally, u just compile it all on ur own | 10:24 |
| fiotjb | ok | 10:25 |
| libben | im thinking of doing a lfs with egdrop and webserver. just to understand linux som more and learn from the experience. | 10:25 |
| libben | allthough it would be 10 times easier just install ubuntu on a box and just run what i want directly from it. | 10:25 |
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| libben | but i wanna learn some more | 10:25 |
| thom_ | can someone help me? | 10:26 |
| macavity | you will learn a lot more then just about the linux kernel too.. actually most of the stuff you will learn about will be GNU ware | 10:26 |
| libben | just shoot | 10:26 |
| schmely | do that, im testin ubuntu at the moment, really works fine | 10:26 |
| fiotjb | me too | 10:26 |
| schmely | just a little problem with my webcam | 10:26 |
| thom_ | how do i change nickname here first? | 10:26 |
| libben | type /nick nicknamehere | 10:26 |
| macavity | libben: but to anwer your question, ive done every LFS release since LFS 2.2 | 10:27 |
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| libben | what u mean? | 10:27 |
| macavity | <libben> how many in here have made lfs | 10:27 |
| libben | u read every version they done and made a own compile every time | 10:27 |
| macavity | yup | 10:28 |
| libben | why? | 10:28 |
| libben | whats the diffrence? | 10:28 |
| macavity | and some custom ones after i got the hang of it | 10:28 |
| macavity | its the fastest linux ive ever tried | 10:28 |
| macavity | shit load faster then even gentoo-custom | 10:28 |
| libben | well it only boots the kernel and what u whant | 10:28 |
| libben | want | 10:28 |
| thom_ | cant remebr my nick password. anyway...... | 10:28 |
| libben | thom_: just type /nick newnickname | 10:29 |
| libben | so what is lfs? | 10:29 |
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| thom_ | i just installed kubuntu-desktop with kdm and gnome is giving me empty log out screens again | 10:29 |
| libben | i thought it only was a book sort of, that was guiding u thru on understanding linux and building it from scratch | 10:29 |
| macavity | knowledge on how to build a working GNU/Linux system from the ground up | 10:29 |
| macavity | but for each release it points out what to be aware of with these particular versions | 10:30 |
| macavity | and the build process has changed slightly over the years | 10:30 |
| macavity | at one time header containment was a big issue | 10:30 |
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| macavity | you should really try and do one | 10:32 |
| macavity | but remember the wise words: FBBG! | 10:32 |
| macavity | (Follow Book, Book Good) | 10:32 |
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| libben | =) | 10:33 |
| libben | well, are u on ur own now or kubuntu? | 10:33 |
| macavity | the first couple of times where i thought myself clever, i had to hose the system and start over | 10:33 |
| macavity | im in fscking stinkdoze, since im at a cafe | 10:33 |
| macavity | i dont have my own connect atm :-/ | 10:34 |
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| macavity | but anyways.. time to go home and sleep.. i have 4 ours of math tommorow.. so i better be fit for fight | 10:35 |
| macavity | l8r guys | 10:35 |
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| beast | i'm having problems installing nvidia drivers... i've removed all the old nvidia files and installed the linux-source-2.6.12 and have also downloaded the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run file, i get an error that my kernel was compiled with gcc3.4, so i do an export cc=gcc-3.4, but the installer will not work, does anyone have any idea what the problem may be? | 10:42 |
| gdh | no, but the command you'll want is 'export CC=gcc-3.4' | 10:43 |
| gdh | the uppercase CC is important | 10:43 |
| beast | ok, that may be the problem, i'll try that | 10:43 |
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| needlz_ | hi... | 10:45 |
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| needlz_ | ive got some problem with my sound :/ i updatet yesterday from hoary to breezy, watched a movie, shutdown the pc - fine. then i booted the pc up again..and the sound "disaperared" :/ i checked with lsmod, aplay, alsamixer etc...nothing :( when i play a mp3 with xmms, xmms shows me now error message... here is some detailed output of amixer etc: http://pastebin.ca/25049 . thanks for the help | 10:47 |
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| beast | gdh: that seemed to work but it would still not install | 10:48 |
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| nxv_ | my external usb sound card mp3+ from creative resists to play a tone. is there an alsa unmute or something? with alsamixer it is enabled | 10:49 |
| beast | anyone else have suggestions on how to install the nvidia drivers? | 10:49 |
| needlz_ | hm | 10:52 |
| needlz_ | seems like kubuntu is dead :p | 10:52 |
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| zyn | does anyone know why programs that run as root through kdesu don't inherit fonts/colors/etc.? | 10:57 |
| gdh | zyn: because they're running with root's KDE profile from /root/.kde/* | 10:58 |
| zyn | that's a bit stupid if you ask me | 10:59 |
| The_Vox | zyn: actually no, that's the way it should be. | 10:59 |
| zyn | considering that kubuntu disables the root account by default | 10:59 |
| gdh | <shrug> I like it becasue the change of theme makes it very obvious when an app is running with root privs. | 10:59 |
| zyn | vox: i beg to differ... the default font size used by e.g. adept is way too large, making the program nearly useless | 11:00 |
| The_Vox | zyn: if y,ou make root-privileged apps run with user environment, you can poison the env and crack the box | 11:01 |
| gdh | zyn: Interesting. what res of screen do you use? 800x600 ? | 11:01 |
| zyn | gdh: 1280x800 | 11:01 |
| zyn | at 120dpi | 11:01 |
| zyn | the default 12pt fonts are *huge* | 11:01 |
| gdh | zyn: very strange - worth logging a bug for and hassling Riddell ? :) If there is a real issue it'd be worth trying to sort it now gives how close teh release is | 11:02 |
| gdh | might already be too late, even | 11:02 |
| zyn | riddell? | 11:02 |
| Riddell | hmm? | 11:03 |
| gdh | zyn: Riddell is the Mr. Big of Kubuntu. Kneel before him :) | 11:03 |
| zyn | ahh | 11:04 |
| zyn | i doubt it's kubuntu specific... i have a feeling it's kdesu | 11:04 |
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| imnotme | about time | 11:10 |
| imnotme | looks like you got to register now | 11:10 |
| imnotme | took like a half hour | 11:10 |
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| jago | is any body out htere | 11:11 |
| imnotme | i just installed kubuntu-desktop | 11:11 |
| jago | i just reinstalled breezy | 11:11 |
| imnotme | ubuntu has screwed up windows | 11:11 |
| imnotme | jago: im about to | 11:12 |
| jago | whats wrong | 11:12 |
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| jago | you may need to find an application called fix mbr | 11:12 |
| imnotme | i have logout screens and other screens that are just white | 11:13 |
| imnotme | in gnome | 11:13 |
| imnotme | i tried a different box and got other inconsistencies | 11:13 |
| jago | i thought you installed kubuntu | 11:13 |
| imnotme | i got both | 11:14 |
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| imnotme | it dont work both. no matter what they tell you | 11:14 |
| jago | oh so you men the kde screwed up the desk top | 11:14 |
| jago | or desk tops | 11:14 |
| imnotme | i installed kdm earlier gdm same problem | 11:14 |
| imnotme | on 2 seperate boxes same thing | 11:15 |
| jago | well i stick with kde and kdm and i have not had problems | 11:15 |
| imnotme | do you use gnome? | 11:15 |
| jago | no i prefer the kde desktop | 11:15 |
| _florent | i do | 11:15 |
| imnotme | im going to shtcan gnome I think | 11:15 |
| _florent | i prefer gnome desktop ;) | 11:16 |
| libben | so why are u in here ? =) | 11:16 |
| jago | well person prferance | 11:16 |
| imnotme | i cant get both running here.\ | 11:16 |
| _florent | lol | 11:16 |
| imnotme | might be because i had an early version of breezy to start. got srewed up somewhere along the way | 11:16 |
| _florent | cause i don't know where to get other irc channel | 11:16 |
| jago | sorry i hve not tried since i switched from knoppix | 11:16 |
| jago | i had no problems running both then but that was a while ago | 11:17 |
| imnotme | jago: i just switched from knoppix too | 11:17 |
| _florent | i've installed kubuntu first then gnome and had no problems | 11:17 |
| jago | yeah, believe it or not ubuntu or kubuntu is better | 11:18 |
| imnotme | im going to reinstall so _florent | 11:18 |
| jago | than knoppix i men | 11:18 |
| _florent | no no | 11:18 |
| imnotme | no no what/ | 11:18 |
| _florent | linux is so good for that | 11:18 |
| imnotme | for what? | 11:18 |
| _florent | you can fix every thing | 11:18 |
| imnotme | oh live yep | 11:19 |
| _florent | just find how to | 11:19 |
| imnotme | _florent: you running both gnome and kde? | 11:19 |
| jago | oh why does the media devices folder not show any thing but floppy in breezy | 11:19 |
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| _florent | it's a mounted device matter so | 11:20 |
| jago | i think they have some bugs to work out | 11:20 |
| _florent | type mount and show which devices are mounted | 11:20 |
| jago | even mounted devices don't show | 11:20 |
| jago | its just anoying but not a show stopper | 11:21 |
| imnotme | jago: are you using both gnome and kde? | 11:21 |
| jago | no, just kde | 11:21 |
| jago | i like kde better | 11:22 |
| imnotme | well ive never gotton both to work on same computer | 11:22 |
| imnotme | me too | 11:22 |
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| _florent | try sudo fdisk /dev/cdrom for exemple to see if cdrom is mountable or not ( with a cd into) | 11:22 |
| imnotme | my notebook starts with kubuntu and goes to ubuntu log in. if i log into ubuntu i have kde theme | 11:23 |
| jago | yeah it will mount both cd and dvd roms but it just mount show them in media:/ | 11:23 |
| imnotme | bloks | 11:23 |
| jago | bloks? | 11:23 |
| imnotme | time to go see you! | 11:23 |
| imnotme | buloks | 11:23 |
| jago | oh seeyah | 11:23 |
| imnotme | agitated sorry | 11:24 |
| jago | bye all | 11:24 |
| _florent | the matter is that my english is not so good and i'm afraid not to understand what you mean | 11:25 |
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| Zizzencs | hi | 11:25 |
| Zizzencs | i would like to install the alloy theme for kde. can anybody point me to a howto? | 11:25 |
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| Phantom^^ | Hi can someone here please help me configure apt to work with a proxy server ? | 11:28 |
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| torc | what's the package name for gimp? | 11:32 |
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| Rogue_Jedi_X | torc: Uh...gimp? | 11:33 |
| torc | tried it. | 11:34 |
| torc | says it can't find it | 11:34 |
| torc | coming from gnome, how would I activate the repositories? | 11:34 |
| Zizzencs | torc: try to add universe repository | 11:34 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | torc: Then you probably don't have the repo for it | 11:34 |
| torc | !repos | 11:35 |
| ubotu | repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) | 11:35 |
| torc | how do I add repositories to kubuntu thought? | 11:36 |
| torc | though* | 11:36 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | torc: Same as in gnome. Edit /etc/apt/sources.list as root | 11:36 |
| torc | well in gnome you can use synaptic to do that. sorry. | 11:37 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | torc: So get synaptic | 11:37 |
| torc | but it says it cannot find it... | 11:37 |
| _florent | try kynaptic | 11:39 |
| _florent | package launcher for kde | 11:39 |
| torc | did. | 11:39 |
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| torc | finally, got it goin' | 11:39 |
| _florent | sudo apt-get install synaptic | 11:40 |
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| _mike | The default graphics driver doesnt work so I can't use Konq to browse forums/faqs/docs. Do I install the nvidia driver through adept | 11:50 |
| _mike | Damn - my graphics driver has screwed up the IRC client - I can't read anything - it's all pink | 11:50 |
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