=== Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu === Dhraakellian [n=ntryon@cpe-66-67-53-29.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Dhraakellian [n=ntryon@cpe-66-67-53-29.rochester.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Do] === salrio [n=salrio@85.137.2.16] has joined #kubuntu === salrio [n=salrio@85.137.2.16] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === tenco [n=tenco@p549A5674.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:27] adept is really ugly. sorry, i just updated to breezy and adept is a real memory-hog: res 64 megs! [12:27] anyone know why kopete crashes? [12:28] and when is the full version of breezy out...it still not out till 13th? [12:30] synaptic is still king === _kay [n=kay@p54A38427.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:30] way easier to use [12:31] agree tenco [12:31] <_kay> hey there, anybody else got a problem with wpa_supplicant upgrade in breezy? [12:31] any idea why kopete crashes? [12:31] <_kay> I cannot parse my config anymore, it always complains about the closing brace of the network={ block [12:32] the adept gui is really overloaded and search capabilities are limited [12:33] aptitude for life [12:33] guys i am looking for a good color scheme for kubuntu [12:33] that looks nice on 1024x768 with a dark background and white on black editors [12:33] but wont make my head explode looking at web pages [12:33] I do my own backgrounds [12:34] so do i [12:34] but for the rest of the stuff i went defaults [12:35] default doesnt work [12:36] did for me [12:36] but thats just me [12:36] my backgrounds and stuff..you can get from tokenart.deviantart.com === penguinboy [n=penguinb@24-159-145-55.dhcp.smrt.tn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === Mystique [n=mystique@cpe-24-161-123-156.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:39] hello all [12:39] I have a problem installing libdvdcss2 [12:40] it complains about libc6 === mekgp [n=mekgp@12.172.96.66] has joined #kubuntu [12:40] how might I possibly go about dealing w/ that? === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@67.15.185.40] has joined #kubuntu [12:41] anybody know of a way to "acquire" libcurl.so.2??? [12:46] mekgp: thats an older version [12:46] mekgp: what program do you need it for? maybe you can compile it yourself [12:46] yep....application i run still needs it :( [12:47] flight sim engine...wont be able to compile it [12:47] .... I see ;-) [12:47] darn dependencies anyway... :( [12:49] cant that file be found somewhere and copied into where I need it???? [12:49] probably [12:50] going to goooogle me self to death! :D [12:50] FYI: I manged to install RealPlayer with the info provided here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats [12:51] mekgp: It's very possible that its not the only library you will need though [12:51] does anybody here have an HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop with working suspend to disk/ram in breezy? === _StarScream [n=am@80-42-209-127.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:52] what is the difference between stattic and dynamic ip [12:54] penguinboy: with a dynamip IP, you get a new one everytime you connect [12:54] thanks [12:55] ad tenco, what a moron [12:56] any idea why kopete crashes? [12:57] and when is the full version of breezy out...it still not out till 13th? === satafterh [n=robin@fctnnbsc15w-156034091061.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:59] I am having issues sharing folders on home network? is there a bug or is it me?? === Mystique [n=mystique@cpe-24-161-123-156.hvc.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu [] === satafterh [n=robin@fctnnbsc15w-156034091061.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === _kay [n=kay@p54A38427.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === kairu0 [n=steve@YahooBB219201195046.bbtec.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:07] hi all [01:08] hey [01:08] hey [01:08] howzit === Drakeson [n=Drakeson@HSE-Montreal-ppp136947.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === StR [n=str@216.230.150.7] has joined #kubuntu [01:16] satafterh: what 'issues'? === lonewolff [n=lonewolf@host86-128-128-38.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === Glin|Jol [n=bobo@cpe-24-193-203-81.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === taltos [n=taltos@183-37-164.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu [01:23] how come some stuff doesnt seem to obey icon settings [01:26] any users of SCIM UIM or IIIMF? [01:27] scim uim? [01:27] these are input methods [01:28] scim,uim,iiimf [01:28] oh [01:28] not me obviously [01:29] ok === othernoob [n=othernoo@p54A2CA13.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:36] I don't get icons for anything I install [01:37] I installed gaim [01:37] no icon [01:37] I installed azureus [01:37] no icon [01:37] how to install flash player for amd64? [01:37] TokenBad: run kappfinder [01:38] TokenBad: those what you installed are not kde apps [01:39] ok...I ran it..said was added...when checked..still don't see them [01:41] do I need to refresh something? [01:41] like kde? [01:45] TokenBad: add them manually? [01:46] is there a way to reload kde like gnome without reloading? [01:47] why you should do that? [01:48] to see if the icons show then === Aben [i=vcs@200216126065.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [01:55] reload without reloading..interesting concept .. === Aben [i=vcs@200216126065.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === Aben [i=vcs@200216126065.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #kubuntu [] === Aben [i=vcs@200216126065.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === Aben [i=vcs@200216126065.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #kubuntu [] === kairu0 [n=steve@YahooBB219201195046.bbtec.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] damn japanese input [02:06] i cant get it going in kubuntu === beast [n=beast@host-1-145-220-24.midco.net] has joined #kubuntu === tenco [n=tenco@p549A5674.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:14] well mean without rebooting === phoenixbyrd [n=phoenixb@pool-68-160-52-195.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === dave_ [n=bobo@cpe-24-193-203-81.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === wvmac [n=wvmac@68-119-135-191.dhcp.chtn.wv.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === canllaith [n=dessa@kde/jhall] has joined #kubuntu [02:27] Gday! could someone in here tell me where lspci resides on a default kbuntu install? :) [02:28] canllaith: open a konqueror window and type it in the search box :) [02:28] cyne: I don't use kubuntu. [02:28] I'm writing an article where I say 'type /sbin/lspci' and I'd like to make sure the instructions work on all the major distros. [02:28] one moment [02:29] on mine i have /usr/bin/lspci [02:30] also a symlink to it @ /bin/lspci [02:31] Interesting! [02:31] Is it also in /sbin ? === PeerSoft [i=PeerIRC@dialup-4.90.15.206.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:31] sup ;] === PeerSoft testing new IRC client in the making. === craffop [n=craffop@c-66-177-236-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === miguelo [n=miguelo@84-121-86-150.onocable.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:35] hola === _chris [n=chris@12-203-178-221.client.insightBB.com] has joined #kubuntu === canllaith [n=dessa@kde/jhall] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _chris is now known as jadugarr === jadugarr is now known as jadugarr84 === _hannes [n=hannes@p54AB3859.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:41] ooh === hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-48-9.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu === philipacamaniac [n=philip@ip68-228-49-137.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === Octane [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:52] does anyone here use breezy and baghira? === Tm_Konversation [n=travolta@metsaalvejuuri.opaasi.fi] has joined #kubuntu === N17R0 [n=w00t@tor/session/x-5e14fc3aa085e83b] has joined #kubuntu === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.16] has joined #kubuntu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@ppp-69-217-133-13.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === FractuS [n=jey@cable200-58-219-37.epm.net.co] has joined #kubuntu === SillyCone [n=2012@pcp06932379pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === SillyCone [n=2012@pcp06932379pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] [03:14] please test KDE 3.4.3 deb http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde343 breezy main === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:16] I've the 3.4.2 full and runs [OK] === ..[topic/#kubuntu:seth_k|lappy] : http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/breezy-release-candidate.php | test adept (in Breezy) (apt-get dist-upgrade if you don't have it) | Nederlands #kubuntu-nl Espaol #kubuntu-es Deutsch #kubuntu-de Italiano #kubuntu-it | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Don't flood the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | Test KDE 3.4.3 = deb http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde343 breezy main [03:19] ok I go test it [03:21] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_%7ejr_kde343_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:22] apt-get update [03:22] or Reload in (k|s)ynaptic [03:22] opps yeah :P [03:22] lol [03:22] rofl [03:22] wats the repository to Firefox? [03:23] it's in universe [03:23] I will only test kde-base for you :) [03:23] kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list @ FractuS [03:23] and then uncomment the universe lines [03:23] seth_k|lappy: yes.. but giveme a URL [03:24] FractuS, it's already in the sources.list. Just commented out [03:24] i tink that it is in multiverse [03:24] no [03:24] it's in universe [03:25] the 1.0.7 version does't here [03:25] 1.0.7 is in hoary-updates universe, yes? [03:25] er, I dunno if hoary ever got a real 1.0.7 [03:25] might just be backported security fixes [03:25] I had FF 1.0.7 on hoary [03:27] brb [03:27] are the 1.0.x series anything but security fixes? === jadugarr84 [n=chris@12-203-178-221.client.insightBB.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:30] nope [03:30] just security === N17R0 [n=w00t@unaffiliated/n17r0] has joined #kubuntu [03:31] ok so far KDE 3.4.3 is running well :P [03:32] ok. thanks [03:32] bye everybody === sean [n=sean@pcp03625371pcs.elkton01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === jkhii [n=chatzill@ip68-107-212-249.lu.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === bluebyt [n=bluebyt@modemcable199.174-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu === bluebyt [n=bluebyt@modemcable199.174-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _martin [n=martin@200.127.65.60] has joined #kubuntu [03:39] ohh man [03:40] N17R0: cool [03:40] N17R0: oh man? [03:40] still that bug ind KDE 3.4.3, u know when u start kynaptic, then it is loading in the taskbar, and after a few seconds it exits [03:40] I don't know that bug, but I recommend using adept [03:41] I recommed it too === Flying_Eagle [n=f_e@pD9535C9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:42] hi [03:42] adept? I usually use synaptic, but will have a look at adept thx [03:42] my kubuntu-amd64-breezy-rc wont let me get superuser-rights. is this a known problem? [03:43] Flying_Eagle: when doing what? [03:43] something within the gethostnamebyxxx()-function (should have written it down) [03:43] Riddell, trying sudo or su or whatever related to root === Dhraakellian [n=ntryon@cpe-66-67-53-29.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Dhraakellian [n=ntryon@cpe-66-67-53-29.rochester.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Do] === _damian [n=damian@pool-71-104-105-237.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:45] (i know that there is no "root" by default) [03:45] Flying_Eagle: I've not heard of that before [03:45] :( [03:45] ill try the 32bit-version... [03:46] ...or wait === spaceturtle [n=jmcc114@203-118-140-71.pppoe.ihug.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu [03:48] well. know that i know, that i cant fix it myself, ill go to bed. byebye [03:50] Riddell: Did u never seen that when u run a application in KDE which ask for root password, it just wont load the first or second time, but after another try it will finally execute? [03:50] N17R0: is it kdesu or sudo you are having problems with? [03:51] well the progs which I execute via kde-menu use kdesu [03:52] yes [03:52] I have had this behavior alot of times on Hoary, and now im on Breezy I have the same [03:53] I think this is the same bug which dont let u run the Administrator mode in kcontrol === jkhii is now known as jkh2 === Hobbsee [n=sarah@CPE-144-136-127-247.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === _troy [n=troy@pool-68-238-181-173.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === Parisi [n=jblparis@pool-129-44-13-189.alb.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === jkh2 is now known as jkh2_ === hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-48-154.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu === chavo [n=chavo@13.sub-70-196-14.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === _root [n=root@24-231-191-215.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:11] <_root> is any body outthere who can help me === _root is now known as jago === `Nomad [n=Bob@mctnnbsa30w-156034043052.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:11] hmmm [04:11] where the hell did apt-get install azureus to [04:12] azureus is in hoary-extras [04:12] in ur internet menu [04:12] _root: shoot === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-235-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:12] its not there [04:12] Hi [04:12] I installed it [04:12] but its not listed [04:12] lol [04:12] hmm [04:13] i am not able too log in as any body other than root whats rong [04:13] TokenBad: use kappfinder to find it? [04:13] I tried that [04:13] it didn't find it [04:13] I installed Azureus.deb from the website [04:13] seth_k|lappy: there's a kdm theme manager, btw, on kdelook =) [04:13] this is root i changed my id [04:13] apokryphos: yes, but does it work? [04:13] Building dependency tree... Done [04:13] azureus is already the newest version. [04:14] so its installed [04:14] TokenBad: run it from the run command? [04:14] but its not in my home dir either [04:14] tried [04:14] said it wasn't found === uc50_ic4more [n=robert@d36-69-80.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:15] apokryphos, yeah, I meant to try it sometime :D === jkh2 [n=chatzill@ip68-107-212-249.lu.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:15] TokenBad: typ "which azureus" in konsole [04:16] what does it tell us then? [04:16] /usr/bin/azureus [04:16] why would it install there? [04:16] thats weird [04:16] lol === dutch [n=james@cpe-065-190-182-028.nc.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:16] so it wont run if u just typ "azureus" in konsole? [04:16] nope [04:17] do u have sun-java installed? === uc50_ic4more [n=robert@d36-69-80.home1.cgocable.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [04:18] yes [04:19] hmm [04:19] azureus: No such file or directory [04:19] I went to the dir [04:19] and typed it [04:19] it ran [04:19] ok === `Nomad [n=Bob@mctnnbsa30w-156034043052.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === apokryphos recommends KTorrent [04:20] then u could make a new menu entry for azureus, and tell it to execute command: /usr/bin/azureus [04:21] how make it...just on the desktop? [04:21] or in your kmenu [04:21] right click on the big blua K [04:21] yep kmenu [04:21] menu editor [04:21] then what? [04:22] right to floppy icon> new item [04:22] typ Azureus [04:22] then by the "Command" field you typ: /usr/bin/azureus === elvis [n=elvis@S0106000d880179ab.vn.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:23] u could also search for the azureus icon [04:23] and then save ;) [04:23] ahh ok === McScruff [n=mcscruff@cpc1-folk1-3-0-cust41.asfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === Glin|Jol [n=bobo@cpe-24-193-203-81.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === regeya [n=shane@dialup-4.252.199.210.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu === McScruff [n=mcscruff@cpc1-folk1-3-0-cust41.asfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:43] lo [04:45] on a storage hdd (mounted at /Storage) it has a .Trash-0 folder how can i delete this === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.16] has joined #kubuntu [04:47] sudo rm -rf .Trash-0 [04:49] what does the rf do? [04:49] uhm some kind of force [04:50] it will be wiped completely [04:50] rm --help [04:50] -r, -R, --recursive remove the contents of directories recursively [04:50] ty [04:51] -f, --force ignore nonexistent files, never prompt [04:52] worked a treat === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === labkom [n=labkom@203.130.245.9] has joined #kubuntu === _labkom [n=ma@203.130.245.9] has joined #kubuntu [05:02] hallo === labkom is now known as jump_ez [05:03] coba [05:03] thrt === labkom [n=duit@203.130.245.9] has joined #kubuntu === ManLord [n=martin@79.80-202-243.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu === labkom [n=labkom@203.130.245.9] has joined #kubuntu === MrShifty|lappy [n=michael@216.243.116.154] has joined #kubuntu === sean [n=sean@adsl-67-65-59-90.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === labkom [n=labkom@203.130.245.9] has joined #kubuntu === `Nomad [n=Bob@mctnnbsa30w-156034043052.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === _labkom [n=duit@203.130.245.9] has joined #kubuntu === _dennis [n=dennis@pcp07305254pcs.jamsis01.sc.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:23] <_dennis> am i in yet === Chameleon22 [n=Blah@60-240-165-75.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu === BlankB [n=blank@adsl-68-93-4-160.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === N17R0 [n=w00t@unaffiliated/n17r0] has joined #kubuntu === kairu0 [n=steve@YahooBB219201195046.bbtec.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:26] any SKIM users? === spaceturtle [n=jmcc114@203-118-140-71.pppoe.ihug.co.nz] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === Dhraakellian [n=ntryon@cpe-66-67-53-29.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:32] Riddell === Dhraakellian [n=ntryon@cpe-66-67-53-29.rochester.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Do] [05:32] philipacamaniac: === apollonius_of_pe [n=eitan@dyn-shp-226-78.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #kubuntu [05:32] Where's the KDE 3.4.3 info page (changes and such)? === RezDawg [n=default@c-67-174-34-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:33] http://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_4_2to3_4_3.php [05:33] Those are so hard to find. :) Thanks! [05:34] Let me state the obvious, Im a windows user trying to learn linux. [05:34] well it hasn't been released yet [05:34] I used kynaptic to install firefox but i dont see it in the K menu === apollonius_of_pe is now known as apolloni_of_perg === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.196] has joined #kubuntu === apolloni_of_perg is now known as aploniusof_perga [05:35] Riddell: good point. [05:40] can anyone tell me how to get firefox to show up in K menu? [05:41] RezDawg: right click the KMenu button and choose "Menu Editor" [05:45] ty === Cosmos [n=ArtVanda@ppp75-25.lns1.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #Kubuntu [05:47] Hello [05:47] So when I add applications from kynaptic it dont automaticly add them the the K menu. Is there a setting that will do that? [05:47] I'm looking for a KDE image manipulation program. I've tried Kirta but that seems more for painting than for manipulating. Any ideas? [05:48] im new to linux, but gimp is like photoshop [05:49] Yeah good program, but I wanted to see whether there were any KDE alternatives before I jumped to GIMP [05:49] well im new to Kubuntu, just installed it half an hour ago, so im not the one to ask [05:50] Welcome to Kubuntu :) [05:50] thank you [05:50] How long have you been a Linux user for? [05:50] couple weeks [05:50] this is my second distro to try [05:50] Yeah great fun. Just stay in there, first few weeks are hard until you get used to the environment. Then you'll never want to go back :) [05:50] Cool, what was your first? [05:50] Let me guess.. Suse? [05:50] ark linux [05:50] Damn :P [05:51] i like ark and it uses KDE but it couldnt resolve my nvidia 3D accel problems [05:51] I'm going to move completely away from Windows at the end of this year, some of the programs we use at school require me to have Windows running [05:51] so I looked for another KDE distro [05:52] Good choice. Before Kubuntu I was a GNOME fan [05:52] well im only used to ark so im kinda confused === JensK [n=JensK@p54906A26.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] I would like to move away froms windows myself [05:54] Cosmos: so you have been using linux for awhile? [05:55] About 3 years now, but only about 6 months has been serious :) [05:57] which distro have you used before and why did you leave? [06:00] The first distro I used seriously was Suse, then I moved to Slackware... from there for about the next 2 years I just experimented with different distros, until at the start of this year I started using Debian on the server. Since then that's stuck (and I doubt that'll change). I stumbled across Kubuntu about 6 months ago and I've stuck with that since then === theplateau [n=james@cpe-024-088-121-092.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:00] Before Kubuntu was Ubuntu, and before that was Debian (for the desktop) [06:02] do you know of a game that is 3D so I can test to see if the drivers here work with my vid card [06:02] Tux Racer [06:02] I used tuxracer on ark and dont see it here [06:02] It should be, try: apt-cache search tuxracer, or apt-cache search racer [06:04] hmm on luck [06:04] Hm... [06:05] Oh wait, which repositories are you using? [06:05] how do i know that? === satafterh [n=robin@fctnnbsc15w-156034091061.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:06] open up: /etc/apt/sources.list in your fav text editor [06:06] And if you want, just PM me the output [06:06] look for ppracer [06:07] tuxracer isn't developed any further. Please run 'ppracer' instead. [06:07] Ah that explains it :P [06:08] KDE 3.4.3 stable?? === RezDawg [n=default@c-67-174-34-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:09] satafterh, well as soon as it's released yes [06:09] shut down wrong window === abhayks [n=abhayks@59.145.136.1] has joined #kubuntu [06:12] RezDawg, if you missed what chavo said: "tuxracer isn't developed any further. Please run 'ppracer' instead." [06:13] i looked for ppracer also === labkom [n=labkom@203.130.245.9] has joined #kubuntu [06:13] maybe its which repository im pointing at? [06:15] Do you have the "universe" one commented (does it have a "#" in front?) === ctw [n=ctw@129-79-193-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:17] i had to reg my nick to pm you [06:17] ill send it to you now [06:20] Is there a universe part to that? [06:20] yes the universe does have # in front of it [06:20] RezDawg, post in here: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/ [06:20] Okay, delete the "#" [06:24] do i need to put # in front of the other one? [06:24] Nope [06:24] Now just make sure to apt-get update [06:25] permission denied [06:25] is there a super user termial [06:26] Just: sudo apt-get update [06:28] i did a apt-cache search for ppracer nothing but when i did one for tuxracer it found one [06:29] cool [06:32] Or Kool :P [06:32] got tuxracer to work but no sound [06:32] i cant buy a break [06:33] stop arts/esd before playing tuxracer [06:33] how do i bring up he alsa mixer again? [06:34] *the [06:34] the graphical interface, or the one that runs in the terminal? [06:35] well i have audigy2 zs [06:35] so i think i need the terminal one [06:35] Oh nice [06:35] well in ark i did at least [06:36] i was told since KDE 3.2 you cant use alsa [06:38] its alsamixer not alsa mixer like i was typing [06:39] you don't necessarily need alsamixer [06:39] you can use any mixer [06:40] well im new to linux and a guy with audigy2 like mine told me this. so this is all i have to go on === jadugarr84 [n=chris@12-203-178-221.client.insightBB.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:46] *sigh* [06:46] no sound [06:46] let me go look on kubuntu website === Kinomees [n=kinomees@85.196.202.25] has joined #kubuntu [06:51] has anyone tried arch linux-- I am at present testing it on my thinkpad [06:54] the documentation isnt up on the site === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:55] anyone have a audigy2 zs that can help me get mine working [06:55] RezDawg: I've got an Audigy2 platinum - but I don't remember having to any fancy business to get it working [06:56] !nosound [06:56] philipacamaniac: Are you on ritalin? [06:56] !sound problems [06:56] philipacamaniac: Syntax error in line 1 [06:56] !sound [06:56] methinks sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary [06:56] I'm not sure I like the bot, and I don't think he likes me === cyne [n=cyne@203.49.222.63] has joined #kubuntu === co_mo_janda [n=wks04@219.83.3.26] has joined #kubuntu [06:58] well i cant say if im ritalin, im not familiar with what that is === co_mo_janda is now known as _wks04_ [06:59] ritalin is a drug to treat hyperactivity === ToyMan2 [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === _wks04_ is now known as CE-smille === jkhII [n=chatzill@ip68-107-212-249.lu.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:01] RezDawg, btw, I have an audigy2 zs === jkhII [n=chatzill@ip68-107-212-249.lu.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:03] okay i open alsamixer and some stuff was muted so i unmuted everything and now it works [07:03] thanks for the help guys, be patient, im a noob [07:03] yeah [07:03] it's the analog / digital out [07:03] gotta unmute it [07:05] guess i got to get java working now [07:05] ubotu tell RezDawg about java === jkhII [n=chatzill@ip68-107-212-249.lu.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === JonasNZ [i=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has joined #kubuntu [07:14] hey [07:14] hi [07:16] how stable is the Breezy RC [07:16] I'm running Breezy on both my machines [07:16] no showstoppers [07:16] should be very stable. === Cem_ [n=cem0r@dslb-084-060-134-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:17] sweet, oh and the other thing, kubuntu is just the standard ubuntu + kde packages isnt it? [07:17] not really === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Karl@ppp210-102.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:18] It's a ubuntu base with KDE packages. The "standard" Ubuntu is full-blown GNOME. [07:18] yeah i just worded that badly [07:19] but all the ubuntu functionality is there but with KDE (which i prefer over gnome) [07:19] Yeah, I figured that's what you meant, but it can get messy without precision. [07:19] psh, since when is English a precise language :P [07:19] let's all speak in ASSEMBLY [07:19] wHOOOOOo. finaly worked out how to make an ubuntu mirror :D:D:D [07:19] seth_k|lappy, yeah true [07:19] lmao seth_k|lappy [07:20] assembly is arguably even less precise ;) [07:20] move bullshit therex0 [07:20] LOL [07:20] the other thing, if i get the rc and install it, i can just update to get the changes that are made in the official release [07:20] YEP [07:20] er [07:20] yep [07:20] caps lock [07:22] any kiwis here? [07:22] No, but I'm Aussie :P~ [07:23] hehe, i have to find someone who can mail me a kubuntu cd, im stuck on my dialup and its sux [07:24] JonasNZ, look for a Linux Users Group in NZ, they'll usually send you copies of distros for the cost of shipment [07:24] ya its to baad kubuntu wont mail you one for free [07:25] haha, was that a NZ joke? [07:25] Or did you seriously typo bad? [07:25] og waaait i think they will [07:26] Cosmos, what did i do wrong [07:26] JonasNZ, nothing I just pointing out that satafterh spelt "bad", "baad" (sort of like a sound a sheep makes) [07:27] oh lol [07:27] JonasNZ, you might find someone in one of these LUGs to send you a copy of Kubuntu: http://www.google.com.au/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=New+Zealand+Linux+User+group&meta=&btnG=Google+Search [07:27] you know what they say about sheep [07:27] Nope? [07:28] lol === philipacamaniac [n=philip@ip68-228-49-137.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:28] heh thanks, ill just hassle our techies at school do to it overnight if i cant track one down [07:28] where is everyone from [07:29] just upgraded to KDE 3.4.2, seems to be working quite well [07:29] satafterh: AZ, USA [07:29] ya works great [07:29] no shit [07:30] Canada here, and starting to get colder here [07:30] freezing my a_s off in a few month, ihate the cold [07:31] 100+ degrees (fahrenheight) during the day here, even in October [07:31] hmm, it's 7 deg Celsius here right now === seth_k|lappy is under lots of blankets [07:32] mmm blankets [07:32] I need to move, cant afford the hyfro bill in the winter [07:32] hyfro? [07:32] natural gas? [07:33] hydron [07:33] hydro [07:33] water? [07:33] power [07:33] oh damn crazy words [07:33] :) [07:33] lights, tv, heat [07:33] hydroelectric power, i get it now [07:33] thats sort of thing [07:34] we just burn coal and split atoms (nuclear plants) here in the US [07:34] we have a natural gas line going through the province, do you think we can get it? Not!! [07:35] kidding, the Hoover Dam also helps power the entire southwest [07:35] we have nuclear power, coal and dambs to [07:36] we sell the us alot of power [07:36] mosty Main [07:36] here any wat [07:36] that's because the US is sick with an overspending, overbuying, overusing disease === jkhii [n=jhays@2001:5c0:835d:0:207:ebff:fe31:6524] has joined #kubuntu [07:37] I notice bush likes to spend it, you should have kept clinton, i liked him [07:38] Clinton was a good guy, he just got off on the wrong foot, or girl, lol [07:38] heh, funny thing is, I voted for bush, but now am more and more regretful === jkhii is now known as jkhII [07:40] Bush has no idea what he is doing, Clinton away knew what and who he was doing, and people gave him a hard time for it but Bush gets away with every thing [07:41] its to bad your pres can only serve two terms, cause Clinton was a good one i think [07:41] yeah, well, history shows that every global power falls eventually [07:43] just have to get the right people in office and keep the stupids ones and the ones who are out for thems selves out [07:44] Al Gore should have been your man [07:45] later I have to go freeze to death now === RezDawg [n=default@c-67-174-34-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === JensK [n=JensK@p54905DD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === RezDawg [n=default@c-67-174-34-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _ito [n=ito@201.240.35.146] has joined #kubuntu [08:16] Do I have to manually add programs to the K menu everytime i install one? Why doenst it automaticly put it on the K menu? [08:19] RezDawg: it usualy does afaik [08:23] Kamping_Kaiser i installed firefox and some games and nothing appeared on the K menu [08:24] try loging out and in again. [08:24] okay === RezDawg [n=default@c-67-174-34-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === RezDawg [n=default@c-67-174-34-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === JonasNZ [i=jbergler@210-55-121-209.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu [08:28] Kamping_Kaiser: well firefox showed up but not the games [08:30] RezDawg: rgith ok. im not familar with the k menu, so i cant realy comment on that :| *pokes kde ppl to help* but firefox should have showed up, so thats good === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-8-70.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [08:31] well its a start, thanks. and since i have your attention do I have to type your name out everytime or is there a way i dont have to [08:32] you can probably tab complete 'kampi' should do it, depends on the chat client === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-8-70.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu [] [08:33] Kamping_Kaiser: hey that worked, thanks again. im so used to windows this is all very daunting [08:34] heh. thats ok. i started using gaim before i did the switch, so i was used to my chat client already ;) [08:36] well is gaim the best one to use. i have irc,yahoo,aim,msn [08:37] yeh, im using gaim. [08:37] i dont know why all my friends want to use different clients, if i could get them to use just one i would be happy [08:37] convirt them all :D [08:37] im trying but they all have arguements to why they like client *X* [08:38] i have irc,(2 networks), yahoo, aim, msn, icq, jabber :| so 1 client is nice :D [08:38] lol [08:38] 'msn has all these smiles' *shudder* [08:38] i use/used trillian for windows so i can converse with them all [08:40] i stoped using trillian after the 0.74 releases, i started to hate it :( so i switched to gaim. and it was good (etc) [08:41] well ill try gaim for linux and if i like it ill switch to it in windows too. i still have to use windows until i can switch over to linux all the way [08:43] what do you use windows for? (i alwasy ask ppl, its intersting to find out) [08:44] well i buy alot of dvds(wife hates it) and i back them up and watch those cuzz of my kids/nieces/nephews. and I play online first person shooter [08:45] i played CSS/HL2 before moving to linux. havent had the time to get them running agin since though :) [08:45] and im suprised you cant find anything to backup dvds with :o [08:46] I play americas army, which they dont support for linux that well, version 2.4 in the latest for windows, been out for months, yet mac,linux version has yet to come out === SWolf [n=Austin36@68.199.11.147] has joined #kubuntu [08:46] as for dvds, i read i can use wine to use dvdshrink, so as soon as i can get that configured that will be one less thing [08:47] dvd shrink rocks, i remember it :) and im sure ppl have got it working, so you *may* find readable instructions around the place [08:48] i read it so its just understanding what i read to do it [08:48] im a noob to linux [08:48] maybe a month tops with linux prolly 2-3weeks [08:49] plenty of ppl to help if you need :O [08:50] bbl. stuff to do :) . see you later mate [08:50] this is my second linux distro so im still learning, first was arklinux. I like arklinux but they couldnt resolve my nvidia 3D acceleration problem so I looked for another KDE distro, since im familiar with that only so for, and found Kunbuntu [08:50] k, thanks === usrx [n=usrx@69.107.249.166] has joined #kubuntu === RezDawg [n=default@c-67-174-34-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === RezDawg [n=default@c-67-174-34-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] === RezDawg| [n=default@c-67-174-34-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.16] has joined #kubuntu === che_benway [n=lyndy@cpc1-seve3-4-0-cust74.popl.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:21] !users [09:21] RezDawg|: I give up, what is it? === RezDawg| is now known as RezDawg === BlackDesert [n=andrea@host98-196.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === _fitz [n=fitz@adsl203-87.aknet.it] has joined #kubuntu [09:35] !dvd [09:35] DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras [09:35] !hoary-extras [09:35] rumour has it, hoary-extras is see http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted [09:37] RezDawg: you can use '!tell me about blah' as well === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has joined #kubuntu [09:37] so ubotu messages you, instead of putting it in the chan [09:37] im trying to figure out what to use to play dvd's [09:37] hi. what's the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade? [09:37] RezDawg: kaffeine [09:38] chx: dist-upgrade resolves depenancies, upgrade only upgrades packages already on the system [09:38] !tell me about dvd [09:38] !tell RezDawg about ! [09:38] :O [09:39] !tell RezDawg about dvd [09:39] Kamping_Kaiser: so there is no problem with always running dist-upgrade ? [09:39] can you still see it in channel? [09:40] chx, dist-upgrade is recomended [09:40] RezDawg: all we see in chan is you saying !tell me about, we dont see the answer [09:40] aaah okay great [09:41] :) === KWizzard [n=wizzard@chello085216170248.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:42] hi [09:42] hi spiral :) [09:42] hello === bazan [n=bazan@APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-23-81.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [09:44] is there a way to add my email address to cc on a bug without showing the email address to all? I am very interested in https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8674 [09:45] im running 5.04 is 5.10 stable? [09:46] RezDawg: yeh, pretty much. [09:46] RezDawg: I am running it and so far so good [09:46] might as well be a mindless sheep and follow the herd [09:47] lol [09:47] defiy the trend! stay with hoary untill they stop supporting it :D [09:48] Kamping_Kaiser: lol well i need help so i need to be with the rest ofthe flock === sebdah [n=sebdah@c83-248-82-40.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [09:48] lol [09:50] Kamping_Kaiser: so how do i tell which version im running? [09:51] erm. ctrl +alt+ f1, look at the bottong line of text above the 'login'. then ctrl +alt+ f7 to get back into kde [09:52] hmm it still says 5.04 [09:53] so your running hoary [09:53] the other way to check would be look at your sources list [09:54] i typed sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [09:54] do i need to go into kynaptic now and do the packages [09:55] that didnt do anything === RezDawg [n=default@c-67-174-34-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:57] RezDawg: you have to change your sources list to point to breezy, run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade' [09:58] RezDawg: 'sudo $youreditor /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade' === bazan [n=bazan@APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-23-81.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [10:02] so in the sources.list where it says hoary i need to change it to Breezy? === faked [n=faked@83-65-250-82.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [10:03] yes, on every line exept the cd line (which doesnt work that way) [10:03] I would like to run echo 1100 > /sys/bus/i2c/devices/0-0037/cpu0_vid on every boot. How could I...? [10:04] chx add it to an init script (no, i cant give good help on that) [10:04] Kamping_Kaiser: no rc.local or such? === jkhII [n=jhays@ip68-107-212-249.lu.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:05] hmm google points me to a simple solution :) [10:05] chx, i cant help with that, i havent done it myself, and i dont watn to break stuff :) [10:05] cool === karnak [n=karnak@host48-60.pool8259.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [10:06] Kamping_Kaiser: http://www.plope.com/Members/chrism/debian_rc_local_equiv can't be simpler. what can break with an echo, anyways? [10:07] chx, more the hacking init scripts is what i was thinking of breaking :) [10:08] my poor system is sweating without undervolting, because I do not have a CPU fan :) [10:08] and sudo echo /dev/null >/dev/hda will break stuff if you want :D [10:09] ROTFLMAO === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu === kkasina [n=ken@62.56.250.78] has joined #kubuntu [10:11] Kamping_Kaiser: that will write only slash d e v slash null into the first bytes hda , it's easy to fix [10:11] Kamping_Kaiser: you need a good amount of dd to break real havoc [10:12] lol. [10:13] while ( /dev/urandom -ne 0) ; do echo /dev/null/ /dev/hda[1-9] ; done ?? [10:13] no, no [10:13] echo just won't do it [10:13] root@catv-5062a336:/etc/init.d# echo /dev/null [10:13] /dev/null [10:13] and cat /dev/null actually does nothing [10:13] ah. cat [10:13] or dog :D [10:14] cat /dev/null > /dev/hda1 [10:14] Kamping_Kaiser: that will do nothing [10:14] Kamping_Kaiser: cat will immediately get an EOF when tries to read from dev/null [10:14] Kamping_Kaiser: well i had problems trying to go to breezy so ill leave it for another day [10:14] hm. must need to use random then. [10:15] RezDawg: you want to make sure yoru set right before you update next, or things could break === Prodigy[aw] [n=Prodigy@ANantes-252-1-72-189.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === JakubS [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [10:15] !repositries [10:15] Bugger all, i dunno, Kamping_Kaiser [10:16] :( [10:16] Irepositories [10:16] !repositories [10:16] repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)) [10:17] RezDawg: look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 from ubotu [10:18] how can I get a module into Ubuntu? [10:18] modprobe? [10:19] i mean the distribution === JakubS [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [10:19] I downloaded did a make, modprobe and runs fine [10:20] but , well, I can understand , only a limited amount of users will benefit from it === taltos [n=taltos@183-37-164.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu [10:20] get in touch with the motus and ask them about that [10:21] motus?? [10:22] masters of the universe iirc #ubuntu-motu === taltos [n=taltos@183-37-164.ip.adsl.hu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:23] Riddell: ping === mijndert [n=mijndert@e30150.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu === mijndert_ [n=mijndert@e30150.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu === tbfg [n=tbfg@chello062178177134.16.14.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #kubuntu [10:31] hi [10:31] I've kubuntu hoary installed and just changed atp-sources to breezy archives [10:32] apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade just wants to upgrade 26 packages... === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.16] has joined #kubuntu [10:33] tbfg: are you sure you changed yoru soruces right? [10:34] it seems as if the kde3.4.2 packages are missing [10:34] *your *sources === luminoth [n=luminoth@host44-115.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [10:34] Kamping_Kaiser i replaces every occurence of hoary wit breezy [10:35] -s+d === JensK [n=JensK@p54906FF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:35] tbfg: can you pastebin your sources list? that sounds like a strange thing to have happened. so there was no errors? [10:37] deb http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde343 breezy main i tried to add this but W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088 [10:37] Kamping_Kaiser I just realized that I was missing main in the sources (just had univers and updates) *shame* [10:37] but thanks for your help anyway :) [10:38] tbfg: lol. wd. knew it had to be simple :D [10:38] chx. jr probably hasnt bothered to generate keys [10:39] I really hope this 3.4.3 stuff will solve my rotate problem === chx does not like the taskbar in the mdidle of the screen. [10:41] heh [10:41] learn to lvoe it :D [10:44] Kamping_Kaiser: i figured out what was wrong, my repositories pointed to us.archieve, i just took out us. and boom [10:44] man its almost 2am [10:44] RezDawg: wd. perhaps the archives were updating [10:44] RezDawg: heh. bugger ;) its only 6.15 here [10:45] pm [10:45] its 1:45 am [10:45] mind you, went to bed at 3am last night, and 4am the ngiht before [10:46] Kamping_Kaiser: second thing i did was "B"reezy, its breezy [10:46] ah, yeh, i got caught by that a few times :) [10:48] well in the header of irc it said "B"reezy so thats what i put === dparker [n=dparker@pool-71-240-60-193.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === dparker is now known as TheHighChild [10:50] hey folks [10:51] Was curious if anyone might know if I need a 64bit version of Enemy Territory for my AMD64 installation [10:51] or if the 32 bit version works [10:51] cant help ya === mrplant [n=mrplant@103-110.echostar.pl] has joined #kubuntu === _mrplant [n=mrplant@103-110.echostar.pl] has joined #kubuntu === _mrplant [n=mrplant@103-110.echostar.pl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === armin [n=armin@p5083DDA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax7-012.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [11:04] When is the scheduled release date for kubuntu breezy? [11:05] couldnt tell you , but im updating to breezy right now === Aapzak [n=aapzak@ip44-163-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #kubuntu [11:06] good morning people [11:07] well it's 2am so technially you're right === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:07] hi Aapzak [11:07] RezDawg: only where you are :) [11:07] I'm in CET, its almost midday here [11:07] Firetech: 13th afaik [11:08] california, where else would anyone want to be ;) [11:09] how is everything here? quiet he? [11:09] RezDawg: im happy with Aust, thanks all the same :D [11:09] and yes, very quiet :O [11:10] well, they have pills for that disorder if you're ever interested in getting right! [11:10] later all :). food time [11:11] RezDawg: no thainks, ill stay ill ;) [11:11] Kamping_Kaiser: good night, ill prolly be in bed soon [11:17] does upgrading with a custom kernel (2.6.12.2) cause any strange problems? [11:18] I know there are security issues in 2.6.12.2, but those are only vulnerable within a local network afaik, and my local network is secure... [11:19] plus I have 71 days of uptime... === karnak [n=karnak@host48-60.pool8259.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === chx is now known as chx|away === laser_tk [n=laser@a84-231-249-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] who cares about uptime [11:32] everyone ;) [11:32] im bacacaaak [11:32] not me :) [11:32] :) well longer uptime == more security risks. so you get one or the other :D [11:33] after a couple of days it will be 0 anyway === smux [n=smux@home.mescaline.fr] has joined #kubuntu [11:33] 502 days or something like that [11:34] Firetech: do you fele insecure with your current kernel? upgrade, if not? don't upgrade [11:34] I don't feel insecure [11:34] then why update? [11:34] I was asking if a breezy upgrade (running hoary now) would cause problems? [11:35] ah [11:35] I wasn't too clear at that point though :/ [11:35] Why not just wait a couple of days until it's released? === gdh [i=foobar@80-192-144-33.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:35] it's a matter of days I believe [11:35] Aapzak: I think I will, but the kernel question still is there... [11:36] Firetech: no, it should cause no problems. you may have to re-install a custom kernel though [11:36] well, I might do a new compile... [11:36] of 2.6.13.x [11:36] plus evms and squashfs patches. [11:37] uptime is so unimportant, I see no reason to let uptime influence any discisions [11:38] well, I'm on a uptime competition list ;) [11:38] different cook on production machines offcourse [11:38] ah :) [11:38] I'm on third or fourth place [11:38] prob at the bottom with you 71 days :) === faked_ [n=faked@83-65-250-15.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [11:38] really? [11:38] now I'm curious about my uptime .. [11:39] well, there's only 20 or so computers there [11:39] the list think my computer is down :S [11:39] w00t? [11:39] I know I maintain 2 debian servers at work who both passed 502 days and are allready on 100 again, so 602 days + [11:40] and they are both heavily used [11:40] :) [11:40] one runs stable, the other unstable [11:40] http://www.barbanet.com/uptime/ <-- it's in swedish though... [11:41] my computer is "Barbaque", ans as far as I can see, it's not dead... (It's the one I'm chatting with now.) [11:41] barbafin is yours [11:41] no [11:41] The page somehow think my comp. is dead. [11:41] I can't see why [11:42] ah, dod, dead === nxv_ [n=matrix@dslb-084-056-082-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:44] yup [11:44] it seems to bee the VPN tunnels [11:45] "Barbafarfar" is my firewall, and y computer is only accessable via VPN. [11:45] my Gentoo server runs for 68 days now, but as I stated before, I don't care for uptime :) [11:45] does anyone know if an imac (g3) will boot from usb? [11:45] dunno Kamping_Kaiser [11:45] Aapzak: i shut my pc down every night becaues its in by bedroom ;) so i get massive 18 -> 24 hour uptimes :) [11:46] :) [11:46] Kamping_Kaiser: My computer is in my bedroom [11:46] I have that on laptop and workstation [11:46] I keep it quiet, though [11:47] Firetech: i have a server (that can be heard form the ohter end of the house when its running) adn a desktop , so i *cant* sleep with them on :) [11:48] I can make m,y computer hearable from the other end of the house, I just turn on the case fans on 12V :P [11:48] Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu does the quietness job :) [11:49] I use low spec machines for server, with quiet fans [11:49] :) i cant make mine quieter, only louder, and its loud enough :( *will get industrial deafness soon :S* [11:49] it's on its lowest setting (~1500 RPM), and still keeps my CPU at ~39 degrees Celsius. [11:49] Aapzak: i got given it, 30GB worth of scsi hdds [11:50] @10000 rpm? [11:50] that will make some noise [11:50] not sure :( i doubt it though, its quite old kit === bert_ [n=bert@c529def15.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu [11:50] the fans are loud enough, let alone when you throuw IO accross the dics [11:50] *discs === faked_ [n=faked@83-65-238-161.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu === mijndert [n=mijndert@e30150.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu === pointwood [n=pointwoo@212.242.222.232] has joined #kubuntu [11:56] I buy all my hardware on 2 criteria: linux compatibility, loudness [11:57] so I have seagate disks which are extremely quiet [11:57] not the fastest disks, but I care more about noise than the loss of speed [11:58] i have only had to buy one thing after switching, so i havent been able to apply that principal >:O [11:58] you will get that choice in time [11:59] lol. i sure will [11:59] :) [12:00] when i upgrade in 2 years :) [12:00] same here === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:02] i committed to having my pc last 5 years. 2 years ago [12:02] so 2+ years [12:02] all i have done is added new stuff, not 'upgraded' as such === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D0322.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:11] 5 years is a long time, what kind of hardware was available 5 years ago, PII 600? [12:12] p3s [12:12] allright if you're not a gamer :) [12:13] i was [12:13] but i got my first (well, family got first) PC in 2002/3 [12:13] everything i hvae learned is self taught... so i wasnt gaming on anying in 2k ;) [12:14] !networkinstall [12:14] Kamping_Kaiser: Syntax error in line 1 [12:14] :( === faked [n=faked@83-65-250-110.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [12:17] hmmm, it looks like gpgme is broken in my breezy... [12:17] kmail doesn't manage to uncypher mails... & it tells me gpgme wasn't compiled with pgp support... [12:18] does anyone know about this ? it might be a problem with the recent upgrade of some kde 3.4.3 packages, but I didn't add the repo in src === rumo [n=rumo@p5487DF9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-9-177.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu === __Ace__ [n=love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu === pc22 [n=arik@222.126.13.162] has joined #kubuntu [12:37] whats with the kde (universe) === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === moty [n=moty@cablep-179-84-108.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:40] anyone knows for gpgme ? [12:40] ? [12:41] Tm_T: I said a few minutes ago it was broken in my laptop, because kmail no longer wants to decrypt... [12:41] ah [12:41] & it tells me gpgme isn't built with gnupg & s/mime suport [12:41] support [12:41] http://www.funnyhub.com/videos/page.cgi/worlds-fattest-cat [12:41] spiral: kde343 ? [12:42] hello there? [12:42] moty: yes? [12:42] is there any way i coud get amarok >= 1.3 without compiling? [12:43] yes [12:43] in hoary? [12:43] moty: it's in http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php [12:44] moty: upgrade to breezy :) [12:44] moty: but what's wrong with compiling? [12:44] moty: tho you might want to wait till thursday [12:44] seaLne: no reason to wait ;) [12:44] nop not really stable:( [12:44] i know i've been running breezy for ages === Tm_T has compiled koffice,kdepim,kopete and amarok, all of them from svn :) [12:46] Tm_T: well with compiling i'll have to compile all the new deps like gstreamer an libtag 1.4 and this is the reason why i quit gentoo:( tired of compiling [12:46] everyday something new <3 [12:46] moty: ok, so then use binary packages [12:46] where can i get one? [12:46] http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php [12:47] Tm_T: no amarok there... [12:47] moty: should be? [12:47] no amarok dont belong to the official kde === BlackDesert [n=andrea@host14-56.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [12:47] hmm [12:47] ah yes [12:47] sorry [12:48] :) [12:48] I forgot that little detail [12:48] moty: then I don't know [12:48] what r u guis using hoary or breezy??? [12:48] breezy [12:48] i see === moty [n=moty@cablep-179-84-108.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:53] ooh the new kdesu looks much nicer === bazan [n=bazan@APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-23-81.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@ppp-69-217-133-13.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === mijndert [n=mijndert@e30150.upc-e.chello.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:55] seaLne: ...I didn't saw anything different === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@ppp-69-217-133-13.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:55] think it came with 3.4.3 maybe? [12:55] am I the only one who gets problems with gpgme in kmail ? [12:56] Tm_T: you dist-upgraded this morning? [12:58] seaLne: :o === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@ppp-69-217-133-13.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:59] seaLne: looks like there's coming a whole punch of packages [12:59] yep :) === BFA|WoRsTeNBoY [n=sosis@d54C25EA1.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu [12:59] seaLne: but... 3.4.3 packages, and I supposed to have 3.5b1 already :p [01:00] BTW why did they mess with the konqueror profile in breezy, didnt like it at all... [01:04] moty: i'd agree with you... === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu === vieras [n=vieras@a84-231-35-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu === bazan [n=bazan@APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-23-81.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === hettar [n=hettar@ppp99-58.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:08] vieras: what's up? === Wimpie [n=u19809@cable-62-205-104-119.upc.chello.be] has joined #kubuntu [01:09] hi all, looking for xine-ui 0.99.4 which solves the right click crash [01:09] where can one get the sun java packages [01:09] !java [01:09] somebody said java was to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java [01:10] thanks [01:10] hettar: giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ [01:10] problem with the wiki entry is that it wants you to make the debs yourself :-O === moty [n=moty@cablep-179-84-108.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:10] apokryphos: its really simple [01:10] yeah I see that. I was sure I had seen .debs somewhere [01:11] I know; not as simple as dpkg -i [01:11] apokryphos: sun don't allow other people without a license to distribute java [01:11] I know === sedeki [n=sedeki@c-b687e255.179-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === motyR [n=moty@cablep-179-84-108.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu === arafat_ [n=arafat@p54982AE7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:16] Does anyone actually like the new kubuntu package manager ?? [01:18] hettar: kynaptic? [01:18] adept [01:19] hettar: what don't you like about it? [01:19] adept [01:19] on breezy [01:19] Way to confusing [01:20] what specifically? [01:20] I had to install synaptic again [01:22] particually painful if you want to install a lot of packages. need to click on each arrow then press the install button === PeterSomnium [n=PeterSom@82-169-74-235-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl] has joined #kubuntu [01:23] And in general you have a cuple of filters you use and the rest of the time you do a more specific search. [01:23] I can't find any way of setting up those filters in adept [01:23] i like apt-get and apt-cache :) [01:24] seaLne: I use that too, but synaptic is good if you want to look through say the KDE packages to see what is interesting that you haven;t tried [01:24] worth trying out, hettar, is KPackage if you want a GUI front-end [01:25] is it possible to upgrade hoary to breezy without losing files? [01:25] I did try it ages ago, might give it another go some time [01:25] PeterSomnium: what files? [01:25] if you mean things in /home, then yes -- of course. A dist-upgrade won't touch things in there [01:25] home dir and conf files and stuff [01:26] PeterSomnium: just replace hoary with breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list :) [01:26] apt-get dist-upgrade [01:26] Reading package lists... Done [01:26] Building dependency tree... Done [01:26] Calculating upgrade... Done [01:26] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [01:26] i did that [01:26] Well nearly go the breezy rc all working nicely [01:26] just change sources.list? [01:26] then apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade [01:26] k thanks [01:27] !breezy [01:27] The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade [01:27] and don't flood the chan please, PeterSomnium [01:27] yeah ok [01:27] sorry for that [01:27] Tried straight gnome breezy first but It must have a memory leak or a few million of them. [01:28] X was using about 600M on average. rather than the 34 it is using now. [01:29] and some of the taskbar applets were using about 50 meg === paines [n=Anes@p508A4565.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:31] hi === khudsa [n=khudsa@84.77.163.208] has joined #kubuntu === khudsa [n=khudsa@84.77.163.208] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === mrplant [n=mrplant@103-110.echostar.pl] has joined #kubuntu === zviratko [n=zviratko@plnou-parou-back.defenestrace.cz] has joined #kubuntu [01:42] hi ppl [01:42] hey [01:42] was the page with kde35 packages moved somewhere? [01:42] (http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php) [01:42] give me a 404 [01:42] idk, haven't looked at it yet [01:44] yea, I got a 404 too [01:45] don't even see the dl for breezy anymore either [01:48] yeah its in a subdir now can't remember what its called tho [01:48] heh ;) [01:48] http://kubuntu.org/packages/ === michael [n=michael@cpe-65-27-144-104.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:49] how do I get it from that? [01:49] http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php [01:50] ty === michael [n=michael@cpe-65-27-144-104.cinci.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:51] hmmm [01:51] looks like something still remains from 3.4 tho [01:51] because it wants to upgrade some parts to 3.4.91, and some to 3.4.3 === chairdan [n=chairdan@tre93-1-82-227-249-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:51] only libs, base, toys and utils is in 3.5 [01:52] well, and aRts [01:52] ah [01:52] any way to get it whole? [01:52] ah now I see [01:53] zviratko: yes; compile === OggMan [n=IVO@cpe-65-27-144-104.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:53] what is the 3.4.3 packages u r talking about? i never saw kde 3.4.3? [01:54] motyR: /topic [01:54] apokryphos: if i wanted to compile, i wouldn't switch from gentoo yesterday :D [01:54] :) [01:54] y i saw that but what r those is there any official kde 3.4.3? === Chase [n=chase@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [01:54] then you'll have to wait, unfortunately; devs are busy with breezy release [01:55] 3.5 is a beta version, remember, too === _fitz [n=fitz@adsl203-87.aknet.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:55] motyR: yes, they are [01:55] zviratko: you can always help devs ;) === _ronan [n=ronan@82.141.247.169] has joined #kubuntu === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.16] has joined #kubuntu === lucian [n=lucian@82.78.124.139] has joined #kubuntu [01:56] hello [01:56] (k)ubuntu is based on debian??? [01:56] yes === _ronan is now known as ronan_ [01:56] thank you! [01:56] http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/ [01:56] :) [01:56] apokryphos: all i see in kde.org r 3.4.2 and 3.5-beta, am i missing something? [01:57] motyR: yes; you're missing the channel topic [01:57] I really hope there will be more collaboration between (K)Ubuntu and Debian === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:58] " They say when you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear demonic voices. That's nothing - when you play it forward it installs Windows " === robin [n=robin@debian.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu [01:58] mrplant: old one === dave_ [n=bobo@cpe-24-193-203-81.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:59] not as old as me, but old ;) [02:00] yeah i've heard; ] [02:00] but funny ;] [02:00] sad :/ [02:01] true ;] [02:04] http://atmizzou.missouri.edu/oct04/images/vietnam.jpg i love this pic [02:06] :) [02:06] jesus [02:06] internet connection [02:06] works lika turtle [02:06] 1kb/s [02:06] on cable modem [02:06] :| [02:06] instead of 80 [02:07] and what's about jesus? [02:07] ;> [02:07] jesus had [02:07] some good ideas [02:07] but his followers [02:07] screwed things upo [02:07] *up [02:08] :/ [02:10] hmm, anyone any success syncing his bluetooth phone with kontact? [02:10] it seems to get the data of the phone, but the syncing proces never ends [02:12] (using breezy) [02:13] :/ === Dario_ [n=spada@leto.dariospagnolo.org] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] Hi all. I see gamin (gam_server) is still causing problems (impossible to umount some unused devices). How to permanently kill gam_server ? grep -r "gam_server" /etc/ is empty, so where and when does it get launched ? === Blissex [i=pcg@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu === _blackdog [n=blackdog@86-51-89.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu === _blackdog [n=blackdog@86-51-89.adsl.terra.cl] has left #kubuntu [] === _mrplant [n=mrplant@100-71.echostar.pl] has joined #kubuntu === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu ["--out"] [02:24] kitchensync: Error! Trying to delete File: , but it wasn't FOUND [02:24] kitchensync: but this CAN'T HAPPEN [02:24] interesting.. === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === Chameleon22 [n=Blah@60-240-165-75.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === elessar [n=elessar@85.96.127.26] has joined #kubuntu === D1ng0 [n=secure@58.69.72.1] has joined #kubuntu [02:34] everyones sleeping huh [02:37] clear === D1ng0 [n=secure@58.69.72.1] has left #kubuntu [] === m_tadeu [n=m_Tadeu@85.138.222.128] has joined #kubuntu === rikva|laptop [n=rikva@213-84-30-137.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu === melkart [i=jf@p5080399C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:38] hi everyone === ppd [n=max@dslb-084-056-029-176.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:40] I was checking the kubuntu repositories and I found stuff from kde3.4.3....whats the deal with this version? [02:41] hettar: dude [02:41] hettar: select all packages you want to install, right-click, install [02:41] hettar: it's -easy- [02:43] <_mrplant> m_tadeu: dunno, im using kde 3.5b [02:44] m_tadeu: what deal? breezy ships with 3.4 === Lathiat [i=lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #kubuntu === _simon_ [n=simon@host-84-9-145-178.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:47] mm...not that...did kde released a v3.4.3? [02:48] m_tadeu: not yet? [02:48] not in the kde news :P === _simon_ is now known as GeneralZod [02:48] but this is: http://dot.kde.org/1128688328/ [02:50] from jabber server? === asraniel [n=asraniel@204.127.3.213.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu [02:51] I mean, now kde people have their own jabber server :) [02:51] neat [02:52] hi, is there a way to set the default soundcard when there are two installed? [02:54] btw....is there a reason for not releasing some kde packages from kde3.5beta1? [02:55] m_tadeu: I don't think so, but someone must do/maintain them [02:55] m_tadeu: so if you're volunteer... ;) [02:55] asraniel: yes, in kcontrol [02:56] lol just wondering ;) don't have the knowledge to do it [02:57] :/ [02:57] m_tadeu: it's time to learn and give something to community ;) [02:57] Tm_T: how's it done? [02:57] m_tadeu: heh, riddell is a man ;) === Glin|Jol [n=bobo@cpe-24-193-203-81.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:59] Tm_T: i cant find a way in kcontrol to change the default soundcard... [03:02] m_tadeu: if youre really interested, #kubuntu-devel [03:03] asraniel: kcontrol -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound System -> Hardware [03:03] I never done it, but i might give it a try ;) [03:03] asraniel: override device location [03:04] m_tadeu: I never done it yet, but will === franco [n=franco@leto.dariospagnolo.org] has joined #kubuntu === `Nomad [n=Bob@mctnnbsa30w-156034043052.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:05] asraniel: got it? hilight me if there's something to ask. Work to do -> [03:05] nobody got the t610 syncing with kontact :/ ? === robin wonders why it was easy in ubuntu/gnome. [03:06] Tm_T: could work.. but now i have to find out the device name of the second soundcard, is there a easy way for that? [03:07] Tm_T: if you are in any way connected to the kde devs, a little selection box for the default sound card, would be great.. realy, its a problem in nearly every distro === kairu0 [n=kairu@YahooBB219201195046.bbtec.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:12] <`Nomad> I've decided to take the jump and upgrade to breezy.. What do I need to do, update the sources file to breezy first? An dthe run apt-get dist-upgrade [03:12] Tm_T: i suppose i should write there /dev/dsp1 ? but it tells me that there is no such file/directory. in konki i can see the file.. hmm.. [03:12] nomad: its probably a good idea to backup too. doesnt always go easily [03:13] <`Nomad> Backed up everything [03:13] <`Nomad> :) [03:13] okay then give you should be ok [03:13] <`Nomad> Actually, I wonder if I shouldn't downlod the CD and do a fresh install [03:13] thats the best option [03:14] i have one here, maybe i can throw it to you [03:14] <`Nomad> lol [03:14] i'd give you a 50% chance of getting a satisfying kubuntu with an upgrade [03:14] 90% with a fresh install [03:14] <`Nomad> really? [03:14] <`Nomad> ok [03:14] 95% if you fresh install and give me a massage [03:14] <`Nomad> lol [03:15] I just screwed up my hoary when trying to upgrade... [03:15] <`Nomad> I'll have to realllly think about that [03:15] just did a fresh install [03:15] <`Nomad> I've been meaning to break down my partitioning anyway, I let Kubuntu on auto the first time I guess and have everything in one part. [03:15] <`Nomad> I want at least my /home to eb separate [03:16] Nomad i have a main partition and a 'library' partition that has all my data. i'd recommend it [03:17] what is the new "HP Printing and Imaging System"/ [03:17] <`Nomad> yes, sounds good === mrplant [n=mrplant@103-134.echostar.pl] has joined #kubuntu [03:20] the release candidate is still likely to be changed before final release, isnt it? [03:21] yes [03:21] tx [03:21] more than likely even === bluebyt [n=bluebyt@modemcable199.174-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [03:21] no adding, but lots of updating === bluebyt [n=bluebyt@modemcable199.174-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:22] <`Nomad> Should I wait or is it mostly up to speed already anyway? There shouldn't be any major bugs by now right? [03:22] ok syncing works, although only calendar === John_M [n=john@cpe-24-167-92-27.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:22] `Nomad: you can always update [03:22] <`Nomad> exactly [03:22] `Nomad: i'm running RC1, and it's working great [03:23] even my old usb scanner suddently worked :D [03:23] <`Nomad> robin: It'll be fun, figuring out where to re-download all the baghira theme stuff :) [03:23] `Nomad: yeah === macavity [n=not@D40A1041.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #kubuntu === Hobbsee [n=sarah@CPE-144-136-127-247.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [03:24] `Nomad: i like the plastick stuff [03:24] <`Nomad> yeah, it's good to have options.. Long Live Linux!! [03:25] yes.. it *is* quite a versatile kernel, isn't it ;) [03:26] i'm really amazed that all my hardware works [03:26] phone,scanner,printer,sound,graphics really cool. [03:26] <`Nomad> It must feel awesome, being linus torvald and seeing where his initial project ended up :) [03:26] hehe yes [03:27] yep [03:27] i'm really proud of myself [03:27] definetly [03:27] from the feel i have of him, i think he is focusing much more on how to make it better, then dwelling on how good it actually is :) === mrplant = Linus Torvalds === mrplant NOT. [03:28] ;> [03:28] heh [03:28] didnt think so [03:28] wasnt seeing the name via private chat [03:29] <`Nomad> hehe [03:29] and i'm darn sure you would be part of one of the devel channels if you were, and you obviously arent part of them [03:29] <`Nomad> How big is the DVD, I was thinking of getting that instead of the CD === paines is now known as paines-afk [03:32] asraniel: pong [03:32] Tm_T: ping [03:33] ok [03:33] asraniel: I think it's like hwd:0 , hwd:1 etc [03:33] Tm_T; my problem is still here, i dont know what the device name is that i should write there.. [03:33] oh.. ok.. [03:33] I'm not sure though [03:33] its hw:0, hw:1 [03:34] OMG! it works :-D [03:34] yes [03:34] Lathiat: thanks :) [03:34] asraniel: it's ok now? [03:34] thank you!!! but why is there not just a simple list where you can chose your soundcard? would be much simpler and not difficult to code.. [03:35] Tm_T: yes it works :-) === edulix [n=edulix@136.Red-80-59-147.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:35] asraniel: good good, and yes, there's a place for improvenment [03:36] now only 2 problems are left. no usb, dont know why, i dont have USB with mandriva either, but with windows i have (at least i think, its a long time i have no more windows on this pc) [03:36] Tm_T: perhaps i will put it on the wishlist on bugs.kde.org [03:36] asraniel: please do :) [03:36] uhm... technically its because the proper backend is missing... [03:37] it would be braindamaged if KDE implemented "its own device manager", rather then a front-end to the would-be-in-common-use [03:37] yu [03:38] I think there will be better approach in KDE4 [03:38] and my other problem is that the dhcp server always overides the dns servers i set manualy... thats a big problem for me, sadly there is no checkbox like in mandriva where i can say that i dont want the dns servers from the dhcp but that i keep my own [03:39] asraniel: you can set them manually in /etc/resolv.conf [03:39] macavity: sure, but they get overwritten on every reboot, already tried that [03:39] just add "nameserver n.n.n.n" in the first line [03:40] make it read only ;-) [03:40] doesent work either [03:40] what?!? === MaV [n=giucav@ppp-238-25.26-151.libero.it] has joined #kubuntu [03:40] macavity: at least under mandriva [03:40] are there any good media payers for kde? [03:40] macavity: i never tried it under kubuntu, but i think it will be the same [03:40] or shoudl i stick with totem :) [03:41] well.. mandriva has a lot of "we want to deside for you"-ism.. like "that other OS you-know" :P [03:41] something about usplash...i installed kubuntu-artwork-usplash....shouldn't I get a kubuntu splash screen at boot time? [03:41] m_tadeu: you have in breezy [03:41] yap [03:42] asraniel: you could look at the boot script for the net, and append the switches that makes the dhcp client not poll dns? [03:42] m-fox: you need to run dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` [03:42] asraniel: its probably ugly.. but it should work [03:42] robin_: i'm using breezy :P [03:42] m_tadeu: i meant, than you allready should have the kubuntu usplash [03:42] m_tadeu: at least I got it in RC1 === user0 [n=user@24-56-162-65.nm.warpdriveonline.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:43] m_tadeu: maybe a dist-upgrade? [03:43] Lathiat: i use amarok, have a look in your multimedia menu and pick the one that takes your fancy. [03:43] Hobbsee: video, not music :) [03:43] amarok is good [03:43] kaffeine crashes hopelessly [03:44] robin_: i've been updating all packages since the preview release [03:44] is there 3.5 beta1 kde kubuntu live cd out? [03:44] ah, media players...i would class that as both video and music [03:44] user0: possibly, i dont think so [03:44] user0: what were you wanting it for? [03:45] oh ok Hobbsee. i want it to download it and use it [03:45] m_tadeu: hmm, strange. [03:45] Lathiat: maybe noatun? === lextul [n=lextul@p54B7CCE0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:45] user0: are you already on kubuntu? [03:45] Hobbsee: i'll try that [03:45] nope [03:45] what are you on? [03:45] windows [03:45] robin_: is there a config file where I can change it? [03:46] user0: grab the RC breezy kubuntu cd [03:46] then you can upgrade from there to kde 3.5 beta [03:46] i think that is 3.4 something [03:46] yeah, 3.4.2 [03:46] oh? [03:46] well, when you install it properly, you can [03:46] the updates will stay on disk or what [03:46] not from the live cd === vicks [n=chatzill@c83-248-59-130.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [03:47] ohhhh [03:47] where's my brain tonight lol [03:47] user0: no, they wont stay on the livecd [03:47] m_tadeu: I don't know, but it's kinda a bug as it should be changed by upgrading I think.. [03:47] livecd makes no changes to your hard disk, or the cd itself [03:47] i see === drazzib [n=drazzib@lan.drazzib.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:47] i know that knoppix is able to save all your settings to hd [03:47] hello all [03:48] which is preetty nifty [03:48] user0: is it? not sure why you'd want to - what if you screwed it up? [03:48] hi drazzib [03:48] screwed what up? [03:48] user0: you'd hardly want to start customising your system with a live cd === PtitOurs [n=PtitOurs@ip-62-129-184-195.evc.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:48] i'm currently trying kubuntu 5.10 rc and i'm experiencing problem with my ipw2200 [03:48] linux in general, deleted folders you didnt want to delete, etc [03:49] the possibilities are endless lol [03:49] well you can change all your kde configurations and whatnot to save for later. actualyl i think it's quite useful [03:49] Hi [03:49] true, that would be [03:50] thats if u use the livecd a lot when installing isnt an option [03:50] but imagine that you did screw something up, say you managed to uninstall kubuntu-desktop, and were dropped at a command prompt - you certinally wouldnt want to save that session! [03:50] true [03:50] my wireless link seems really agnostic with ubuntu :( [03:50] oh no, it doesnt auto save [03:50] installing is faster though, ie the system runs faster [03:50] wich version of iwp2200 is included in ubuntu ? [03:51] its also nice you can save your optoins onto say a usb keychain so the next time your hd gets b0rked you at least have a nice customized kde [03:51] true [03:52] yeah installing is always a better choice when its available [03:52] nothign would technically stop you from doing that with kubuntu cd either, if you knew what to save [03:52] the hidden files in your home drive, which you can unhide with konqueror === zaphod [n=zaphod@e178070016.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu [03:52] ipw2200? what's that? [03:52] yeah it's fairly simple procedure to just copy the directories or whatever. it's just automated and made easy is all really === nxv_ [n=matrix@dslb-084-056-082-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:53] ipw2200 is the intel centrino wireless driver [03:54] ah, here [03:54] lots of ppl in here. so kubuntu is really good or what? [03:54] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 [03:54] that might help [03:55] user0: seen the ubuntuforums.org? [03:55] nope [03:55] there's a really good guide in there in the beginners section [03:55] thanks hobbsee [03:55] it's the first on the list, and is entitled something like "is ubuntu for me" [03:55] you might want to check it out :) [03:55] drazzib: no problems [03:55] but i know how to install a new ipw2200 from source [03:56] and it's a very good resource === ndop [n=gl@p5492A98A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === ndop [n=gl@p5492A98A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Verlassend"] [03:56] i'm looking for a way to find why this driver doesn't work in the default install [03:56] drazzib: nothing's stopping you from doing that, assumign you know how to make it work [03:57] hobbsee> yes ;) [03:57] good question, got no clue of the answer === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@82-34-240-35.cable.ubr02.maid.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [04:00] I'm having problems on setting my webcam....don't know how to put it to work... [04:00] !webcam [04:00] !tell m_tadeu about webcam [04:01] Adept keeps saying I don't run it as root [04:01] But I am using kdesu/sudo === BlackDesert [n=andrea@host98-57.pool8260.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [04:02] ah fixed, it was still running crashed [04:02] do you then put in your password for it? [04:02] ah :) === macavity [n=not@D40A1041.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #kubuntu [] === Pior [n=Pior@cnv.pior.org] has joined #kubuntu [04:04] Hobbsee: I was trying first with gnomemeeting, then with xawtv and camorama...don't realy known what the problem can be...the kernel detected it 'cos the driver is there, but..... [04:05] checked google? [04:06] a lot of people document their problems on there, and are found by searching === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-72-14.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:06] try googling the brand and model of the webcam, followed by linux [04:07] i checked some of them..none of the solutions seem to aply...most of them is that the device is not detected [04:07] hmmm [04:08] is kde detecting it, as part of media in konqueror? [04:08] nop [04:09] i'm wondering if it was actually detected or not [04:09] let me check [04:10] usbcore 117884 4 sn9c102,usbhid,uhci_hcd [04:10] hmm, when I try to share on of my folders, I get the message 'Make sure the Perl script 'fileshareset' is set suid root [04:10] using lsmod....sn9c102 is the webcam, i guess [04:11] sounds like that's the driver, but i wouldnt really have a clue [04:11] havent tried using a webcam in a long while, only on windows [04:12] first time for me ;) === Hobbsee hopes that someone else is reading, someone who actually knows something about webcams and linux [04:13] well, I'll keep looking...thanx :) [04:13] wish i could help more [04:14] mmm...do you know how to change the usplah image? [04:15] !usplash [04:15] parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Hobbsee [04:15] check kde-look.org - i think they have some there, and if they do, they will have instructions on how to use them [04:16] oki [04:19] is there any problems if i install ubuntu-artwork? [04:19] or is it just for gnome? [04:22] what repository should I add in Breezy to get the w32codecs ? [04:23] universe i think [04:24] i have universe enabled === plasticdoc [n=plasticd@87-196-127-221.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu === satafterh [n=robin@fctnnbsc15w-156034091061.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:31] i just looked for update and it looks like kde 3.4.3 is available, is this a stable release?? [04:32] anyone here?? [04:32] w32codecs are non-free [04:32] they where free to me lol [04:33] marnfall you still here === juju [n=juju@119.141.119-80.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:33] is anyone here [04:34] rikva|laptop: still here? [04:34] kde didn't report any news, but is should be a stable release [04:34] It will be in breezy, so it should be stable [04:34] have you installed it === hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-33-91.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu === EricCartman [n=engin@unaffiliated/EricCartman] has joined #kubuntu [04:35] I'm installing it right now, but I thought it was a minor release... [04:35] downloading :) [04:35] default repositories don't have mplayer ? [04:35] frank23: yes [04:35] deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main [04:36] thanks [04:36] EricCartman: no, only marillat aka debian-illegal [04:36] EricCartman: (mplayer has violated copyright laws -- several times) [04:36] mornfall: you're everwhere aren't you. [04:36] mornfall: how can I add that repository [04:36] EricCartman: what were the minor adept bugs? [04:36] where is libdvdcss? [04:37] mornfall: it didN't update dependencies in the preview when Iremoved items [04:37] EricCartman: that's not completely a bug -- it's... well :) === chase [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [04:37] ;) [04:37] EricCartman: corner-case, which needs to be solved [04:37] EricCartman: anything else? [04:37] 3.4.3 just bug fixes does any one know or are there new toy to play with [04:38] and I believe repository manager should be a seperate dialog (window) don't you think so === chase [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:38] EricCartman: no [04:38] EricCartman: why? [04:38] well gigantic three button at the bottom seems weird [04:38] EricCartman: gigantic? === ronan_ [n=ronan@82.141.247.169] has joined #kubuntu [04:38] EricCartman: i could add a spacer somewhere for sure [04:38] EricCartman: will see [04:38] ok I installed RC, is it just me or is kmail not in the menu anywhere [04:38] yep, they occupy whole horizontal space at the bottom, looks like they belong to seperate window, but that's just my taste [04:39] EricCartman: well -- what is the benefit of a separate window? (it's obviously clutter, so it better be for a good reason) [04:39] Lathiat: kontact [04:40] mornfall: I'm not asking for a new window particularly, it's just that "repository manager" seems like it's not being embedded or something. [04:40] mornfall: I would use tabs view [04:41] the GUI is not very common, so it feels weird at first, but I liked it [04:41] But I believe advanced search stuff must be hidden at first [04:41] rikva|laptop: ah i see [04:41] and list must have maximum possible space [04:41] rikva|laptop: not very o bvious :) something should be done about that [04:41] brb- [04:42] there is only one thing i miss about xp and that is winamp and shout cast tv [04:43] people not very chaty in here today, but i notice there is a 126 people in here and the most i have seen, kubuntu is growing, lol [04:45] what should i add to my source lit to update mplayer, or is mplayer not updated very often === esher [n=esher@online.with.eth0.ws] has joined #kubuntu [04:45] satafterh: there are very good music players in ubuntu! try amarok and streamtuner [04:46] back [04:46] EricCartman: "must"? === tenco [n=tenco@p549A5A80.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:46] not the music player it self i miss its the streeming video, old tv shows [04:46] EricCartman: you don't have a real chance to overlook more than about a dozen items... [04:47] EricCartman: and you generally want nontrivial amount of filtering when looking for something, anyway [04:47] I am going to restart just finished 3.4.3 [04:47] mornfall: yep, true. but it confused me the firs time I launched it. [04:47] EricCartman: the filters are however collapsible for a reason === frank23 [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [04:47] mornfall: almost 90% of the time use just qucik filter [04:47] what is the best app [04:47] to configure [04:47] gtk 1.2 [04:47] apps? [04:48] EricCartman: sure, but you are not everyone -- and when "looking for software", many people will probably resort to tags [04:48] mornfall: well, I prefer simpler config dialogs ... and advanced dialogs if I need them. That's my opinion. === twinoatl [n=twinoatl@ABordeaux-253-1-19-125.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [04:49] EricCartman: i'll probably make it more obvious for 2.0, with tag stuff moving to a (hidable) sidebar, with d&d of tags into the filter view [04:49] hi [04:50] is there a live/install image that fits on one cd? [04:50] it seems that dma is not installed on my dvd-burner. What is the ubuntu-way of configuring it ? [04:50] twinoatl: hdparm to see what's its state [04:51] twinoatl@pcdam:~$ sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda [04:51] /dev/hda: [04:51] using_dma = 0 (off) [04:52] twinoatl: tough luck :-) [04:52] (no idea how to enable it) [04:52] try this on the /etc/hdpard.conf [04:52] /dev/hdc { [04:52] dma = on [04:52] #interrupt_unmask = on [04:52] #io32_support = 1 [04:52] } [04:52] i mean, apart from hdparm -d1 :-)) [04:52] ah ah [04:52] does hdparm -d1 save the value somewhere ? [04:53] sorry...remove the lines with # [04:53] copy/paste from mine :D [04:53] yeah, what m_tadeu says [04:54] ok, I will edit the file then [04:54] it'll be enabled on the next boot [04:54] with hda instead of hdc === Glin|Jol [i=bobo@cpe-24-193-203-81.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:55] is there a wiki or thread to help for installing ATI drivers ? [04:55] well depends on the hd where your cd is but it should be that [04:55] it is :-) === usuario [n=usuario@62-14-20-175.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #kubuntu === usuario is now known as andyval [04:57] can somebody point me to a website explaining cool'n quiet and how to install it ? === BulletXt [n=fabrifx@83.225.87.70] has joined #kubuntu [04:58] I got a network set up with this kubuntu and two windows boxes and is great, but I can't I don't have permission to write to the drive of the linux box while using the windows box. Can someone tell me how to fix this? === andyval [n=usuario@62-14-20-175.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #kubuntu === BlackDesert [n=andrea@host98-57.pool8260.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === koke [n=koke@dsl-sjkgw4ne-54f8f14a.dsl.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [05:02] exploretofs is a prog to write on linux drives [05:02] theres a better program [05:03] IFS *tries to remember the website* [05:04] www.fs-driver.org [05:04] works very well === andyval [n=usuario@62-14-20-175.inversas.jazztel.es] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _dob [n=dob@139.Red-80-34-120.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:05] Lathiat: I think bdmp's problem is with Samba and UNIX permissions for the windows clients.. === _dob [n=dob@139.Red-80-34-120.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:05] gdh: oh, sorry === satafterh [n=robin@fctnnbsc15w-156034091061.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:05] http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_4_2to3_4_3.php [05:07] Lathiat: However, thanks for that fs-driver link - I didn't know such progress had been made - thought it was all still readonly from Windows on ext2 :) [05:07] gdh: yeh, that one is really good, and rock solid [05:07] It certainly nullifies the need for NTFS on Linux :) [05:08] I think that is the problem too. I set up the network throught the gui tools so i am not really sure how to get in there and commando line it. [05:08] at the minor expense of having to store gigs of NTFS data temporarily while the partition is re-created as ext2 :) [05:08] can somebody point me to a website explaining cool'n quiet and how to install it ? [05:08] bdmp: so, if you run 'smbpasswd -a ' on a terminal [05:08] bdmp: you can then login and get to you rhome directory [05:08] via a windows share [05:08] no idea if kde has a gui to do that or something [05:09] bdmp: Same thing here, I've not used the UI tools for easy network sharing ... [05:10] theres a gnome tool === hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-33-237.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu === andyval [n=usuario@62-14-20-175.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #kubuntu [05:11] I am a little confused. I do the command on the linux machine and then I can what? [05:11] bdmp: if you browse to the linux box from a windows machine, kyou can then login with your user/pass on the linux box an get your homedirectory [05:11] not sure how to make windows ask you for a user/pass to login [05:12] I can I have full access to the linux box from the windows machine already I just can't write files [05:12] oh [05:12] right [05:12] in your homedir? [05:12] or some other share you added? [05:12] I shared another directory [05:12] ok [05:12] in the config file [05:12] or with a tool? [05:12] tool [05:13] which one? [05:13] I just want write permission [05:13] tool [05:13] which tool [05:13] with the gui tools [05:13] um [05:13] tell me what you clicked to load that gui tool up [05:13] where to get mplayer updates, or source to add to source list [05:13] satafterh: what do you need an mplayer update for? [05:13] hi can someone tell me in what kubuntu is bettes than ubuntu and viceversa? [05:13] it ishould be relatively up to date [05:14] because I would like to keep upto date, dont you? [05:14] bdmp: well, if you edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and put "writeable = yes" under the section for yoru share... i have no idea how to do it with the tools or whatever [05:15] system>internet and network> samaba, local network browsing, and samba [05:15] I just messed with thoes till i got it to work [05:15] I learned in windows so i am way more comfortable in a gui [05:16] is there a config file to change the usplash image? [05:16] cool [05:16] thanks === andyval [n=usuario@62-14-20-175.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #kubuntu [05:18] there is a section that says 'write list' and it says =root [05:18] can I put guest there? [05:20] what does this means : "powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects" please [05:21] What does "write list - root" in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file mean? [05:21] http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/ for w32codec === andyval [n=usuario@62-14-20-175.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #kubuntu === Originoo [n=susee@p508DDB55.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === _flo [n=flo@i577B1FCE.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === _yoshi [n=yoshi@ABayonne-152-1-58-177.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [05:25] If I transfer files with the gui and it says "complete 176/180 folders" is there a way for me to see the errors and what files didn't transfer? [05:26] is there a weather tool for linux, I know there is kweather but i do not want to waste any more time trying to get it to work === twinoatl [n=twinoatl@ABordeaux-253-1-19-125.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:34] dvd writing fails (apparenty due to makeisofs) with a fresh breezy install :/ [05:34] wasted two dvds [05:34] man that sux EricCartman [05:35] im still debating with myself which cd iso to download to try kubuntu out.. the live or the install cd [05:35] which distro are you using now [05:36] i use gentoo on my main machine [05:36] well, gentoo is a good distribution === rikva [n=rikva@debiancenter/user/rikva] has joined #kubuntu === twinoatl [n=twinoatl@ABordeaux-253-1-19-125.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [05:36] if you're using fc4 or anything like that I'd suggest you to donwload the install CD and install it right away ;) [05:37] i know knoppix only had 1 cd for both live and install so that was an easy choice back when i tried it. now, i'm worried about wasting a cd too [05:37] I want to install Mplayer, but I need "libdirectfb-0.9-20" for that. It is not in the repositories - what to do? [05:38] well, if that was gentoo you'd do USE="-directfb" ;) [05:38] fine, this is an kubuntu channel ;) [05:38] rikva: trying to install mplayer from another repository and it has a dependency whch is not on any of the repos you have ? [05:38] EricCartman: correct, the marrilat repository === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D2C99.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:40] hmm, that ain't good, in my opinion, if a third party repo is providing a package it should provide it's deps too, or make sure official repo has the dep === Chadza [n=chorton@pcp0010702372pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:40] it's a little uncompatible [05:40] fscking legal stuff === Cem_ [n=cem0r@dslb-084-060-129-197.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === StarScream [n=am@217.169.25.114] has joined #kubuntu [05:45] and I can't find mozilla-mplayer [05:45] hey.. i have a question .. If I dist upgrade will it keep the programs I installed manually (like nvu...) ..? [05:46] you shouldn't really use the marillat repository [05:46] from hoary to breezer next week .. [05:46] ubuntu differs quite a bit from it now... using it could break your system [05:46] apokryphos: what should I use else? [05:46] apokryphos: the wiki says i should [05:46] rikva: ...for? === mister_roboto [n=robot@24-148-87-160.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:47] apokryphos: mplayer, libdvdcss2, flash, etcetera [05:47] they're all in multiverse or hoary-extras [05:47] !info mplayer-386 [05:47] mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3499 kB, Installed size: 7592 kB [05:47] which page tells you to use marillat? [05:48] apokryphos: i activated those repositories and did an apt-get update, but I still can't find mplayer [05:48] apt-cache search libdirectfb [05:48] libdirectfb-0.9-20 - frame buffer graphics library [05:48] it is there .. [05:48] apokryphos: this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-d93d2c4f9433a699fe995b94eae1be4d3c136315 [05:48] u juste need universe or multiverse .. [05:48] evidently you didn't do it correctly -- as ubotu notes, mplayer is right there. [05:48] maybe .. [05:49] I uncommented all the lines [05:49] I use breezy btw [05:49] rikva: pastebin your sources.list then [05:49] ok [05:49] hey.. i have a question .. If I dist upgrade will it keep the programs I installed manually (like nvu...) ..? [05:49] yes [05:49] ok thx [05:50] whether they'll work isn't entirely guaranteed though === acastro [n=acastro@cm-83-97-241-42.telecable.es] has joined #kubuntu [05:50] lol.. ok i might have to resintall some then ... :P [05:50] @+ [05:51] hi guys, have a g3 ibook. Sleep normally doesn't work...then for a little while it did in breezy. Then i did an apt-get update /upgrade and now it doesn't :( [05:51] is this likely to be fixed before breezy is released [05:51] if not, can i go back to the old working snapshot? === twinoatl [n=twinoatl@ABordeaux-253-1-19-125.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === rikva [n=rikva@debiancenter/user/rikva] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] apokryphos: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/388195 [05:53] erm, so you didn't actually add multiverse or hoary-extras... [05:53] !repositories [05:53] repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)) [05:54] I didn't? [05:54] evidently not === rikva slaps himself [05:56] apokryphos: does hoary-extras work with breezy? [05:56] depends on what for... for dvd-things I'd presume so, yes [05:56] if you're looking for w32codecs then go to giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ as it was taken out of hoary-extras [05:57] I already got w32codecs from marillat :| [05:57] not sure if that one in particular will give problems, but hey.. [05:57] ok, still no mplayer [05:58] nah sure it's just .dlls in /usr/lib/win32 [05:58] rikva: ok, you didn't add multiverse === _hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-48-217.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:58] ok [06:02] aaaaaaaah thanks apokryphos [06:02] i should've known that earlier === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC1035.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:05] apokryphos: the problem is that the wiki is ubuntu-specific, the adding repositories part doesn't apply to Kubuntu [06:05] rikva: not really; you're given an example sources.list [06:06] (with both of the repositories I mentioned) [06:06] apokryphos: I know :) but that's not in the wiki [06:06] there'll be a guide soon for adding repositories with adept in the official documentation, I'm sure === BFA|WoRsTeNBoY [n=sosis@d54C24937.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu [06:06] :) [06:07] isnt it easy to add resp without adept =) [06:07] just edit the sources manually [06:07] and reload in adept. [06:07] I don't use adept [06:07] me either [06:07] I use apt manually, sometimes synaptic [06:07] when i'm lazy ;) [06:07] havent tried it yet! /me feels abit ashamed [06:07] I use apt manually, sometimes kpackage [06:07] adept? [06:08] !adept [06:08] Adept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html [06:08] using synaptic all the times, unless i know what im really getting [06:08] oh gods. [06:08] i like to allways check out the dependecis in a gui [06:08] yet another package manager :D [06:08] Chousuke: to be fair, there isn't one that's close to being ideal unfortunately [06:09] Yeah [06:09] That add/remove programs thing in Ubuntu is what people need. [06:09] apokryphos: what is missing in synaptic [06:10] libben: Qt [06:10] though, I don't think the UI is perfect === ceaser [n=ceaser@138.28.153.100] has joined #kubuntu === hippie_ [n=hippie@pc-200-74-33-217.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu === paines-afk is now known as paines [06:11] Qr ? [06:11] though, looking at it now, how do you see the changelog via synaptic? [06:11] Qt ? [06:11] that is [06:11] synaptic is by far the best of all graphical package managers [06:11] I prefer KPackage [06:11] what is Qt? [06:11] :/ [06:11] !qt [06:11] Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package === faked [n=faked@83-65-251-97.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [06:13] hmm [06:13] think i have that allready [06:13] gonna check === robin is now known as robin_2 [06:14] think you have Qt? Err, you wouldn't have any KDE without it, really. [06:15] =) [06:15] arghhhhh! [06:16] hola hola === hippie_ is now known as hippie [06:16] hi! when i look at pdf-files generated with pdflatex with kpdf or xpdf, they look really ugly. but when i print them out, they look pretty! [06:17] how can i fix kpdf/xpdf? [06:17] bah i need Flash 8 for this site === juju [n=juju@119.141.119-80.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu === Kinomees [n=kinomees@85.196.202.25] has joined #kubuntu === _fitz [n=fitz@adsl203-87.aknet.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:24] hi all. doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade today showed that kdemultimedia and kdenetwork kdepim and others are beeing held back. im running breezy with kde3.5beta1 ... did any1 upgrade them by hand? [06:25] Chousuke: good you know what people need (unfortunately, you are wrong, since add/remove programs in ubuntu sucks utterly) [06:25] mornfall: Then they need to make it not suck, since it's what people need. :P [06:26] It's an easy click-click categorised frontend to installing commonly used apps. [06:26] Chousuke: heh [06:26] Chousuke: commonly used apps should be all installed already [06:27] Well, not-so-commonly-used-but-often-enough apps then. === dave_ [n=bobo@cpe-24-193-203-81.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:28] Chousuke: how do you define that? === Kinomees [n=kinomees@85.196.202.25] has joined #kubuntu === Sgep [n=sgeo@ool-182e9882.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:29] mornfall: That is a problem indeed. [06:29] Chousuke: (you sound like getting software searching right was trivial -- i'd suggest you go ahead and do it, then) [06:29] KDE 3.4.3? [06:29] it could include games, for example [06:29] heh [06:29] What's new in KDE 3.4.3? [06:30] yeah, now, that gives a really good idea how the software manager should look like === Sgep was a bit thrown by the version number's similarity to the NetHack version [06:30] mornfall: my point was, synaptic still looks a bit intimidating. [06:30] Sgep: probably just bugfixes [06:30] kann man von kde3.5beta1 auf kde3.4.3 downgraden? [06:30] inc|freaky: I don't speak german, but now. [06:30] no* [06:31] of course you can... but it'll be a bit more complicated :) [06:31] is it possible to downgrade von kde3.5beta1 to 3.4.3? [06:31] how to do that? [06:31] inc|freaky: move away all your .kde dirs, etc, first [06:31] remove KDE packages manually and install the older nes. [06:31] inc|freaky: then uninstall all of kde, remove the repository and install [06:31] that might work. :P [06:31] omg all my settings will be lost [06:31] i cant do that [06:32] inc|freaky: there is no downgrade path for conffiles, sorry [06:32] inc|freaky: (you should of course back them up before installing beta) [06:32] " inc|freaky: move away all your .kde dirs, etc, first" [06:32] that sucks my kde is looking so nice :( [06:32] inc|freaky: well, definitely make a copy, if you want to use it again with 3.5 [06:33] inc|freaky: you can try using it with 3.4 again, but expect things to break in various ways [06:33] i think ill stay at kde3.5beta1 [06:35] are the difference between kde3.4.3 and 3.5beta1 significant? [06:37] yep... === Zizi [n=chatzill@jane.sch.bme.hu] has joined #kubuntu === Boronk [n=Zardoz@p549BF569.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:41] how do I enable middle-mosuebutton paste in firefox, so that it opens a url? === Zizi is now known as Zizzencs [06:42] like it was in the good old unix days? === Pro`` [n=Prodigy@ANantes-252-1-25-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === pon [n=chatzill@ACC926FE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:45] hi === pon [n=chatzill@ACC926FE.ipt.aol.com] has left #kubuntu [] === m0ns00n [n=m0ns00n@213.167.96.196] has joined #kubuntu [06:47] am i the only one who annoys this? === carlson [n=carlson@c-67-182-248-237.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:48] doesnt it paste when you middle click the web page / tab? [06:48] no [06:48] i found it [06:48] bummer [06:49] what was it [06:49] this is fuckin default behavior to make in more windows-complient [06:49] middlemouse.contentLoadURL [06:49] oi! [06:49] Hey [06:49] what are they thinking [06:49] I have a problem with Breezy Release Candidate. . . wondering if anyone else has had it. . [06:49] Is it possible to use the old nvidia drivers with breezy? [06:49] carlson: try me, I'm using it now [06:49] Its like copy und paste in openoffice === carlson [n=carlson@c-67-182-248-237.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:50] too much windows in the developers head [06:50] btw [06:50] i'm using it too === hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-33-217.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:50] i just converted my powerbox from gentoo [06:50] In the control Panel you have 'Network Cards' and in order to enable or disable a setting you have to input yourself into adminstrator mode. [06:51] The Administrator key does not function. . . [06:51] m0ns00n: lots of people seem to have issues getting the old drivers to compile in breezy [06:52] m0ns00n: i was just talking to a guy last night and the driver had a syntax error trying to compile on breezy [06:52] carlson: works here === BlackDesert [n=andrea@host1-59.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [06:52] carlson: have you entered the password? [06:52] carlson: sometime it seems the dialog is not showed. [06:52] you can't enter the password. . . . [06:53] try again, by closing the settings panel. [06:53] This has also happened on previous beta versions of Breezy [06:53] carlson: I'm up2date, and now problems with it. [06:53] *no [06:54] You have problems also with it? === juju [n=juju@119.141.119-80.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:54] carlson: nope [06:55] mister_roboto: I had trouble in Hoary as well, so I got the drivers from Warty, but then I needed the warty kernel as well [06:55] It baffles me. . ... [06:55] mister_roboto: So I wonder, they still didn't care for us Geforce users in Ubuntu, and we still need to use Warty elements in Breezy? [06:55] my sound stutters when I start a program.. [06:56] so it stutters while there is hdd activity [06:56] anoying. [06:57] btw what is gam_server? [06:57] it eats 56% of my 1GB ram. [06:57] It's strange that this has happened on this newest Release Candidate and previous beta releases. ... [06:57] yes [06:58] carlson: The sound issue is here as well, on this hoary box === motyR [n=moty@cablep-179-84-108.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:58] carlson: did you update ? or a clean install of RC1? [06:58] It also has the same problem when you try to get into Kwifi [06:58] RC1 was a clean install [06:59] My wifi card works beautifully in Ubuntu. . . . === laser_tk [n=laser@a84-231-249-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [06:59] wtf, why does the sound don't have high priority.. [06:59] it should run real-time. [07:00] The specific problem is that the software won't let you input in the adminstrator mode changes to enable or disable the network cards it finds. . . . [07:00] carlson: so you get in admin mode [07:00] carlson: but can't change the enable/disable/ [07:00] ? [07:01] No I can't enter adminstrator mode. . .it won't allow input of a password. . . . [07:01] hmm my kubuntu is crashing.. [07:01] it stutters continusly [07:03] Good Day all :) [07:03] nice no i can't close any programms [07:03] *now [07:03] hmm.. :/ [07:04] That's the problem in a nutshell. I can't enable or disable network card settings because adminstrator mode won't allow input of a password. . . . [07:04] sefaults all the way.. time for reboot. [07:05] Anyone else have this problem??? [07:05] By the way I'm using Suse 10 right now (quite a improvement over 9.3). .. === DizzyWeb [n=arjen@h141245.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [07:07] carlson: I could never get SuSE to recognise all my diverse hardware I have ... thats what I liked about Ubuntu :) === _twinoatl [n=twinoatl@ABordeaux-253-1-6-245.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu [07:08] I had Ubuntu on my system the other day. (Release Candidate)It works very well. . .. [07:09] I have three diverse boxes. Two of them are older hardware that I would have just tossed out, had I not been able to run Ubuntu on them [07:09] I have another machine (64-bit) with newest hardware. . . .am waiting to put a Linux system on it. . . have to experiment around with them all to find the one that will work the best. === robin [n=robin@debian.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu [07:10] carlson: Yah I have a 64-bit machine also, but its Windows XP-Pro based. [07:10] carlson: i'm also running amd64 version. [07:11] I've got XP on it also. . . .but am waiting to find the perfect Linux candidate to put onto it. . .. [07:11] carlson: btw, don't know what the GAM server is for, but it did crashes all my software.. [07:11] carlson: yep Im not sure I know of a perfect Linux to run on 64 right now. Some are better than others, but they are harder to maintain too [07:12] carlson: ubuntu runs very well on amd64 [07:12] carlson: i had also run debian64 for months.. [07:12] That's why I am waiting and checking out them all. [07:13] I've had Wifi problems with Sarge Debian and had to drop it completely. . .. [07:13] hmm, ubuntu and debian are very similiar === laser_tk [n=laser@a84-231-249-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [07:13] logical since it is based on debian :) [07:13] Had nothing but problems getting Wifi to work in Debian. ... [07:14] i dont' think you have to drop a distro because of such problems.. [07:14] Well I still have my eyes on it. . . . [07:14] !java [07:14] rumour has it, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java [07:14] kubuntu is just debian, but than better [07:14] I've tried to use Gentoo and others. . .. alot of problems. . . . [07:14] apokryphos: what was that really good way to install java? [07:14] apokryphos: sun java, that is [07:15] I have tried, fedora also and mandrive, but don't like them [07:15] i'm debian-based minded :D [07:15] Redhat and Fedora systems don't support my Wifi [07:15] Tried them to no avail..... [07:15] what do you have? [07:16] you are using ndiswrapper? [07:16] yah Fedora is too big to install on some of the hardware I have..and it seems sluggish too === smux [n=smux@home.mescaline.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:16] Believe or not I couldn't get ndiswrapper to work with my windows exe file (I've got a WG311 Netgear Atheros chipset Wifi card. . .) [07:17] dont like mandriva cuz they are too commerical [07:17] apokryphos: found it [07:17] im using ndiswrapper with wpc54g [07:17] it works [07:17] okay [07:17] with debian and ubuntu [07:17] fucking wpc54g [07:17] mine has one of the first [07:17] without wpa support [07:18] Boronk really ? I got also an old one, but I even run it with the GS drivers :) [07:18] Boronk and wpa also. [07:19] I haven't tried breezy on my laptop yet, but does it supports ndiswrapper out-of-the-box? === paines [n=Anes@p508A4565.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Verlassend"] [07:20] Good talking to you guys. . ..got to leave. . . . [07:20] cy [07:20] a === _fitz [n=fitz@adsl203-87.aknet.it] has joined #kubuntu === robin [n=robin@debian.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu [07:25] i managed to put my webcam to work...installed kdetv and i can seen the image...but its on pink and white...kinda weird, heim [07:26] maybe some overlay settings? === robin is now known as robin_2 [07:26] mmm...where can I check that? === Octane [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:37] if i change the DAC magnitude, it goes to pink and green :P === jago [n=jago@24-231-191-215.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === chx|away is now known as chx === bz0b [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c2a-a-217.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:39] hey all === JepZ [n=jepz@p548CECF0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:42] hello, can any body remind me what file i need to modify to make kde auto mount a partition [07:42] /etc/fstab [07:43] thanks [07:43] i had to completely rinstall kubuntu, the dist upgrade messed up every thing and i could not log in any more [07:44] check this site [07:44] http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html [07:44] hi, do anyone know mondo (the program)? is it a good prog? === robin [n=robin@debian.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu [07:47] thanks it has been a while since i did this the last time the refresher was needed. === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === macavity [n=not@D40A1041.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #kubuntu [07:49] 'lo peeps === penguinboy [n=penguinb@24-159-145-55.dhcp.smrt.tn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:50] hey macavity :) [07:51] when is openoffice 2.0 stable going to be released? === tucoz [n=martin@hornved.ii.uib.no] has joined #kubuntu === robin_2 [n=robin@debian.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu [07:52] Hi, I just recently installed kubuntu breezy. I noticed that some programs are not added to the menu when I install them with apt-get [07:52] this is for instance pingus and dia. [07:52] tucoz: did u try to re-logon ? [07:53] robin_, no :) [07:54] that might solve it. I didn't think that was needed, as a lot of packages programs are added without a re-logon. [07:54] penguinboy: as soon as they have verified that RC2 is stable enough to be re-tagged as Stable(TM) [07:54] tucoz: it is just a guess :) === eikke [n=Ikke@vtk2.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu [07:54] ok [07:54] and Badger is released stable this coming Friday???? [07:54] quick question: when one installs kubuntu on his machine, is GTK installed too? [07:54] penguinboy: it certainly apears so :) [07:55] probably [07:55] for openoffice i guess [07:55] great!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [07:55] robin_2: thanks [07:55] eikke: yup.. GTK is still a must if you dont want a crippled desktop [07:56] I wonder why the bluetooth stuff is installed in breezy, although I do not have bluetooth on my laptop. [07:56] great === bbl [n=chatzill@cpe.atm2-0-72102.0x535a7c72.arcnxx20.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu [07:56] tucoz: you can buy bluetooth adapters [07:56] tucoz: :) [07:56] and if I try to remove those packages, synaptic tells me it want to remove kde-desktop as well. [07:57] robin_2: yes, sure, but I am not going to. [07:57] tucoz: do you need the space? [07:57] tucoz: unfortunately there is no such thing as "lose dependencies" :-/ [07:58] lose? loose? luse? === macavity gets a dictionary [07:58] No, I don't need the space. (loose) [07:59] it would be nice to have that kind of arangement.. that it installs loose dependencies by default, but will let you remove them if you want [07:59] can't you force it? [07:59] although i won't recommend that :) [07:59] me neither [07:59] i think zeroconf will get pissed if it cant load the .so files it needs :P === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC1035.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:00] can someone try if he can share a folder with right-clicking on a folder -> share [08:00] they should *really* start getting the habbit of ldopen things instead of linking directly [08:00] I get still an error message about a perl script that needs to be suid root. === slomo [n=slomo@p5487EED8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:01] is there high quality additional repositories that we can add ? [08:01] btw, do you know if it is possible to make kubuntu boot faster if no network is used. It takes a really long time now, when the boot process searches for network [08:01] EricCartman: what do you have in mind? === tuni_ [n=tuni@AFontenayssB-151-1-48-250.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [08:02] tucoz: you can ctrl+c skip the dchp lookup [08:02] well, I'm trying to compile kdelibs, and many things are missing, and apparently those dev packages are missing in official repo, such as bzip2 and openssl [08:02] *dhcp [08:02] robin_2, really? cool. So, when the boot states "searching for network.." I can just ctrl+c? [08:02] great [08:02] and obviously I doN't want to install those by hand [08:02] tucoz: it worked in hoary [08:02] tucoz: you can append the timeout switch (cant remember the --foobar exactly) to make it stop searching for a dhcp server if it doesnt respond in 1 sec [08:02] does someone know who "Andreas Mussgiller " is? he packaged kdar and uploaded it to REVU [08:03] macavity, ok. goodie [08:03] can some try the part I said about sharing? [08:03] robin_2: what do you mean? [08:04] try to share a folder: right click on a folder -> share === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:04] so it can be shared through samba [08:04] it gives an error.. [08:04] robin_2: which one exactly? === Kejk_PL [n=konrad@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === ..[topic/#kubuntu:seth_k|lappy] : http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/breezy-release-candidate.php | test adept (in Breezy) (apt-get dist-upgrade if you don't have it) | Nederlands #kubuntu-nl Espaol #kubuntu-es Deutsch #kubuntu-de Italiano #kubuntu-it | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Don't flood the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com [08:05] macavity: error message? [08:05] macavity: [08:05] robin_2: yes, word-for-word, what does it say? === bbl [n=chatzill@cpe.atm2-0-72102.0x535a7c72.arcnxx20.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu [08:06] macavity: An error occured while trying to share folder '/home/robin/school'. Make sure that the Perl script 'fileshareset' is set suid root. [08:06] it happens when i check Shared, and than click OK. [08:07] robin_2: find "fileshareset" and see if it exists, if it does, make it suid === slomo [n=slomo@p5487EED8.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["when] [08:08] macavity: chmod +s ? [08:08] uhm.. actually i dont remember :P === eikke [n=Ikke@vtk2.ugent.be] has left #kubuntu [] [08:08] do it from kde under the advanced permissions thingie [08:09] macavity: hehe ok, but isn't this a bug? [08:09] that depends :P [08:09] depends on what? [08:09] id say its a security flaw to have scripts run suid... [08:10] yeah, but this is of course not very user-friendly === hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-33-217.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:10] it should be a binary.. [08:10] btw, it seems i can leave the password fields in administrator mode empty.. isn't that weird. [08:10] its way to easy to trick the perl shell into dumping you a suid shell [08:11] macavity: inform the developers :) [08:11] they know.. trust me.. they know [08:11] im just a very little tiny fish in this lake ;P [08:12] :) [08:12] I have "Terminal Sessions Menu" docked in my panel. But there does not pop up the list anymore. Of course I have session in "Configure Konsole".. (Breezy, kde 3.5b1 from kubuntu.org). hints? [08:12] -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 10997 2005-10-05 15:40 /usr/bin/fileshareset [08:12] this is right? [08:13] looks right [08:13] gives same error. [08:13] but since im at a stinkdoze in an internet cafe i cant check [08:13] now it's a real bug :D ? [08:13] hehe === ppd [n=max@dslb-084-056-029-176.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:14] btw, and you may quote me on this one,: "mIRC sucks mule's bollocks!" :-/ [08:15] :) [08:15] Bersirc or Klient are the way to go if you're using Windows [08:15] Bah [08:15] Irssi is Universal [08:16] x-chat [08:16] s/using/being confined to without priviledges/ :-/ [08:16] macavity: Ouch [08:17] so unless someone makes a java-applet which can act as an X client to one of your machines, im pretty stuck ;) === edulix [n=edulix@80-102-46-183.sev1.dialup.uni2.es] has joined #kubuntu [08:17] you can get out of the cafe [08:17] but what the heck.. in January ill get my own connect [08:18] lol [08:18] you don't have internet connection ? [08:18] robin_2: its not much better at school.. we have a 155MBit line.. and a fcsking proxy that will only let me do http and http-representation-of-ftp [08:19] i cant even copy an entire directory.. nooo-nooo.. one file at the time mister! [08:19] :) [08:19] robin_2: unfortunately not :-/ [08:19] January... long time [08:20] actually not.. the only time i have for IRC'ing is on sundays.. the rest of the week im bussy like all hell was loose [08:21] im doing the equivalent of high-school and the fist year of collage in just 18 months.. so we "keep a steady pace" if you like :P [08:23] macavity: I should be busy like hell, but i'm not.. not a good thing either. [08:23] doing University. [08:23] been there, done that ;-) === _fitz [n=fitz@adsl203-87.aknet.it] has joined #kubuntu [08:23] i'm going for Master :) === _john [n=john@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:24] thats why im trying to do the shortcut now.. im 28 and i've just begun getting my education === _john [n=john@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:24] hehe.. im going for a Master in CS [08:24] me HMI [08:24] but [08:24] and if i develop a taste for it, then perhaps a PhD === motyR [n=moty@cablep-179-84-108.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:24] whats HMI? [08:24] yeah and than you never have to work, becasue you will be 80 by than [08:25] human media interaction [08:25] ah [08:25] speech technology, AI etc. [08:25] i'll recruit you when i've done my PhD in microkernel/multiserver OSes ;-) [08:26] hehe :P [08:26] i probably own already MS and Google by than. === marko [n=marko@213-216-230-30-Rajakyla-TR1.suomi.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:27] will there be a MS by then? :P [08:27] no, right i will change the name. [08:27] butch it and port office to POSIX ;-) [08:28] as GPL naturally === marko [n=marko@213-216-230-30-Rajakyla-TR1.suomi.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:28] sry i have to make money [08:28] !=GPL [08:28] robin_2: Did you get hit by a windmill? [08:28] none nearby, so no. [08:29] they try selling what MS has never been able to sell: "Good Support(TM)" [08:29] does it make you rich? [08:29] its a misconception that you cant make money on GPL software [08:29] okay let me refrase it in: sry i have to make BIG money :) [08:29] Qt sells lofs of support to companies using Qt-GPL in-house [08:30] aaahhh.. the *greed factor* ;-) [08:30] or.. I have to pay ppl to much money for the buggy software I create [08:30] *let ppl pay [08:30] -typo's === robin_2 is now known as robin|away [08:31] bye [08:31] brb === rsimone [n=rsimone@host176-242.pool872.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === DeepB [n=joe@66.90.73.214] has joined #kubuntu === rsimone [n=rsimone@host176-242.pool872.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === nxv_ [n=matrix@dslb-084-056-082-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === tuni_ is now known as tuniAw_ === twinoatl [n=twinoatl@ABordeaux-253-1-6-245.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === Glin|Jol [i=bobo@cpe-24-193-203-81.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === duce [n=thomas@p5089AB4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === edulix [n=edulix@80-102-46-183.sev1.dialup.uni2.es] has joined #kubuntu === robey [n=robey@dr122.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [08:56] so what is there to do with a fresh install of kubuntu other then apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get upgrade? === ken [n=ken@CPE-24-163-216-250.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:57] Hello everyone [08:57] hey ken [08:57] brb === ken [n=ken@CPE-24-163-216-250.mn.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === bz0b [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c2a-a-217.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:58] k back, so any ideas on what to do with new install of kubuntu other then upgrade everything? === nxv_ [n=matrix@dslb-084-056-082-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:00] What else do you need to do? [09:00] well, i installed firefox, gaim, and xchat too, but don't know what else i want to do [09:00] hmm === jago [n=jago@24-231-191-215.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:01] just go ahead and use it? ;-) [09:01] well it would be nice if i could get those online poker games working on here [09:01] but the only ones are .exe's [09:01] and i have cedega [09:02] Here is everything I do after a fresh install: (this was for 5.04) http://wiki.anomalytv.com/tavi/index.php?page=UbuntuKubuntu [09:04] why install a free software OS if the fist thing you do is install every trojan propietary binary you can get your hands on? ;-) === macavity ducks === LOOSER [n=Looser@dslb-084-059-070-024.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:04] Ideology vs. useabliltiy. === beast [n=beast@host-1-145-220-24.midco.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:06] If you dont support a decent idology, you *will* end up having to re-define usability with "what they think i should do" :P [09:07] but never mind.. im just in the arguing mood today.. as long as i get to run all Free, then do as you please [09:08] <`Nomad> All right, I'm about to burn the Breezy DVD, an dthen do a fresh install.... :D [09:10] `Nomad: hit it! :) [09:11] <`Nomad> I've been using Thunderbird for email.. Is Evolution a better choice? [09:11] i prefere KMail.. so i wouldnt know === beast [n=beast@host-1-145-220-24.midco.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:13] `Nomad: I have used both and like them both. I am using Thunderbird currently. [09:13] what's the quickest way to install the nvidia drivers on kubuntu? [09:13] <`Nomad> yeah.. I think I'll stick to it.. I like that it's so easy to transfer the data to any platform === nxv_ [n=matrix@dslb-084-056-082-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:15] beast: its allmost the newest as default [09:15] unless u have the newest gfx card that really requiers the newest driver [09:15] u dont need the latest [09:15] ? [09:16] libben: what's the best way to enable that? i enabled it in the xorg.conf using nvidia instead of nv [09:16] thats how you do it.. [09:17] beast: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [09:17] and choose nvidia instead of nv in the menu when it comes to it [09:18] and just hit enter on everything else u dont know what to set there..... and when u comes to the monitor part. be sure to set the right horizontal values and vertical. then u got good screen resolutions also === LadyFrost [n=nnnnnnnn@h227n7c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:19] do i want to disable any of the modules, such as glx or dri? [09:19] beast: if you want to know how to use nvidia's agp driver, look at this: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=149&p_created=1100107993&p_sid=SemRJCRh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NzImcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0wJnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfZm5sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9YWdwIGxpbnV4&p_li=&p_topview=1 [09:19] ouch.. sorry.. didnt see it was ugly :-/ [09:19] hehe [09:19] anyways.. its easy enough to do it :P [09:19] just keep the default modules? [09:20] yup [09:20] the nv driver loads GLX by itself if you dont specify it yourself, IIRC [09:21] ok good === Tonio- [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:21] now, just a alt+ctrl+backspace to test it? [09:22] dont forget to save it first ;-) === faked_ [n=faked@83-65-238-125.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu === Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-116-40.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:22] yes, the reconfig setup saved it === faked__ [n=faked@83-65-251-1.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [09:23] hit it, and lets see if you are in for an all-nighter or just the usual yay-it-worked :P [09:24] if for some reason it doesn't work, how can i launch X again after editing the xorg.conf from console [09:24] startx [09:24] alright, i'll give this a shot, hope to talk again soon ;) [09:24] i keep getting this mesage when i try to use my dvd rom "The file or folder media:/hdc does not exist." can any one help [09:25] beast: always, always have irssi or bitchx or something installed... [09:25] beast: that way you can get back for help, even if the system will only boot up in single-user mode [09:26] ok :) [09:26] kubuntu live cd works well too ;) [09:26] that they do.. that they do :P [09:26] hey macavity when i uncomment the backports in my sources.list file, and i run apt-get update, it never resolves those [09:26] bz0b: im new to the debian system.. i dont know much about it yet [09:27] bz0b: ive been running slackware and LFS for years.. but only *ubunty for a short while [09:27] LFS? [09:27] I've got a weird problem (I think). I recently bought an mp3-player and today I tried to plug it in to my kubuntu desktop computer. It automounts, and I can copy files from it, but I can't remove nor add files. ...help? [09:27] Linux From Scratch [09:28] ah [09:28] is it hard to make your own distro with that program? [09:28] its not a program... its a book [09:28] ah [09:28] well [09:28] is it hard to make your own distro? [09:29] bz0b: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports universe multiverse [09:29] BlankB, i use 5.10 [09:29] BlankB, i use 5.10 [09:29] woops [09:29] sorry [09:29] doh. [09:30] bz0b: "disto" is such a big word you know.. you can do a 100% custom install of everything... eventually [09:30] bz0b: but i would net reccomend that you stray from the book the first few times you do it [09:30] what is the "KDE System Settings - Easier Control Centre" mentioned in breezy RC announcement ? [09:30] about how many pages is the book? [09:31] bz0b: but it is an absolute must if you *really* want to learn something about how a GNU/Linux system is put together [09:31] bz0b: go have a look :P [09:31] sure [09:31] www.linuxfromscratch.org [09:32] once you are done with that, there is always the BLFS to crunch... no matter how big iron you have, thats going to take some time to compile ;) [09:32] bz0b: then its: debhttp://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/hoary-extrasmainuniversemultiverserestricted === thompa [n=thom@69.180.208.122] has joined #kubuntu [09:33] BlankB, screw it, i hear that backports are broken anyways, and rather not use them, and just use universe instead [09:33] hi everyone need some advice [09:33] and what about that katapult ? is it a new branch of development? [09:34] (the initial developed stopped) [09:34] thompa: shoot :) [09:34] i installed ubuntu breezy, and tried to install kde from synaptic, probably wrong === chambis [n=chambis@adslon-150-79.logos.cy.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:35] i installed (cant remember) kde, kde-desktop, later kubuntu [09:35] whats the prefeered way to get kde? === Ravensky [n=ravensky@unaffiliated/ravensky] has left #kubuntu ["Yay.] [09:36] apt-get install kubuntu? [09:36] thompa: sounds like the wrong oder to me :P [09:36] thompa: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ? [09:37] it caused some problems, i had white text windows in gnome, and also the gnome menus were classic kde theme [09:37] hi, i got my usb soundblaster device displayed in kmix but dont get any sound from the device. anysuggestions? [09:37] ive sinced removed kde but am going to put it back [09:37] LadyFrost: thanks. knew it was simple [09:38] :) [09:38] is anyone else running both gnome and kde encountering any problems? === faked [n=faked@83-65-236-244.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [09:38] uhm [09:39] Has anybody got a spare moment to solve my little problem? I've got an mp3-player that gets automounted, but as read-only. Not very useful for a mp3-player. How do I get it to automount itself as read-write? [09:39] on my notebook it starts with kubuntu and ends up on ubuntu login screen [09:39] thompa: No. I've got both kde and gnome and haven't got any problems. [09:40] you get gdm instead of kdm? [09:40] LadyFrost: check /etc/fstab and see what options it gets mounted with? [09:40] LadyFrost: how do you deal with desktop icons? [09:40] macavity: That's the weird thing. I can't find it in fstab. How do I get it there? === beast [n=beast@host-1-145-220-24.midco.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:40] thompa: huh? What do you mean? [09:40] hmm [09:40] then i think its done by hotplug [09:40] where does it get mounted? [09:41] if i create a shortcut on desktop or launcher in gnome in kde its blanc or missing text [09:41] macavity: in /media/usbdisk/ [09:41] macavity: Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667 [09:41] If I try to remove or add stuff to it it says "file system read-only" [09:41] if i go back to change the properties of a desktop item in one desktop its broke in the other [09:42] beast: download the nvidia one, and ask it to compile the module [09:42] beast: never trust your vendor for drivers you can compile yourself ;-D [09:42] anyone know of any virtual pc's for linux?> [09:42] QEMU or Bochs === alf_ [n=alf@crb44-2-82-224-255-98.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:43] eg if i create a launcher for bzflag in gnome, its called ? in kde and no picture icon [09:43] and visa versa [09:43] or WMware if you have a propietary fetish [09:43] macavity: which one do i want to download? [09:43] thompa: I haven't ever had any desktop icons, so I don't really know what to do :/ === alf_ [n=alf@crb44-2-82-224-255-98.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:44] beast: QEMU with the DMA patch, or QEMU CVS [09:44] i may have to avoid them [09:44] macavity: where may i find that one? [09:44] the CVS or the patched version? [09:44] Please don't kill me, but I tried the mp3-player with my boyfriends ubuntu-computer yesterday, and then I could add songs. [09:44] but its on 3 different installs. i think i need to create a desktop config. directory for each or something [09:45] macavity: whichever will be the best [09:45] beast: go to the qemu homepage for cvs instructions, and follow them? [09:45] macavity: i tried the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7174-pkg1 but that didn't work either [09:45] what?!? [09:46] can i ask an opinion here regarding desktops? [09:46] thompa: sure [09:46] do you stick with one or use both or whats advised? [09:46] you can ask anything you like.. just dont *expect* people to ansver [09:46] i stick to KDE only [09:47] kde folks are so much nicer [09:47] macavity: i'm not sure what you are talking about... i don't need qemu [09:47] I use kde only. [09:47] .. unless im setting up a server.. then i use a stripped down GNOME [09:47] beast: sorry! [09:47] macavity: hehe [09:47] beast: miss typed you for bz0b [09:47] macavity: that's ok [09:48] macavity: i'm not sure how to proceed [09:48] macavity: gnome for server i like too [09:48] uhm, server with X? [09:48] macavity: it should pretty much work out of the box shouldn't it? that reconfigure should have made it find the correct driver [09:48] LadyFrost: X is nice when you have like 25 terminals with ssh connects ;-) [09:48] maybe I should use kde since thats what i know and use gnome for my remote mail server [09:49] macavity: But.. On a server... you don't usually even have a screen. [09:49] beast: i would never have used the reconfigure or aptget for this in the first place.. [09:49] LadyFrost: i do :) [09:49] macavity: can you give me some steps [09:49] macavity: ahok. [09:49] no i ssh in and then change to root [09:49] remote [09:51] gnome has connect to server utility in "places" [09:51] beast: not really.. im unfortunately in stinkdoze, and i dont know what those scripts did to your machine :-/ [09:51] macavity: i have nvidia-glx installed 1.0.7667-0ubuntu23 [09:51] try and remove it altogether [09:51] then reconfigure again [09:52] then install the one from nvidia === blueyed_ [n=daniel@iD4CC16A0.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:52] then hack the xorg.conf by hand [09:52] which version from nvidia? === Mithsir [n=jonas@dslb-082-083-224-106.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:52] latest [09:52] How do I make OOo2 look more KDEish? I installed the ooo-kde package, but the menus still look strange. [09:52] whatever nvidia.com spits at y9ou :P [09:52] 1.0-7676? [09:52] if thats the latest [09:53] what about it saying i dont have the latest module? do i need the kernel source? [09:54] if you remove all the old junk, clean up the configfile, compile your own, and then hack the configfile by hand [09:54] .. then i have a real hard time seeing what could go wrong [09:54] i noticed there is both KDE desktop and kubuntu-desktop available === twinoatl [n=twinoatl@ABordeaux-253-1-6-245.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [09:54] its a prcedure ive been over so many times i even sometimes dream about it :P === Tfine80 [i=Tfine80@pool-68-237-28-207.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === Tfine80 [i=Tfine80@pool-68-237-28-207.ny325.east.verizon.net] has left #kubuntu [] [09:55] this is a pretty fresh install... it came with nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-glx i believe [09:55] ditch everything intalled by apt that has the name nvidia in it [09:56] ok [09:56] then just run the installer and i should be ok? or do i need to find a nvidia-kernel-source package somewhere? [09:56] then do it the right way by hand :P [09:56] the nvidia installer comes with everything you need [09:57] ok, good [09:57] its just object files that it links according to your kernel headers [09:57] here i go again, talk in a bit :) [09:58] macavity: is having both KDE and kubuntu available in synaptic going to confuse things? [09:58] i think installing kde gives you the basic kde desktop? [09:58] thompa: i dont know === dave_ [i=bobo@cpe-24-193-203-81.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:59] i dont want to try it again, and am going to just install kubuntu [09:59] sounds like the right tool for the job ;) [10:01] but i dont think its wise to install both. i was getting kde half-baked, === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC094F.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:01] was running gdm though, who knows [10:01] well here i go. thanks [10:02] its kind of the same as wanting your car to have two different engines that you can switch between [10:02] or so to speak :P [10:03] oh [10:03] do you mean kde and gnome or gdm and kdm? [10:04] both, or all four if you like :P [10:04] does kubuntu use kdm? [10:04] naa.. its the KDE and GNOME integration with the system that i think can step on eachothers toes [10:04] macavity: message just pooped up kdm or gdm? [10:04] does it matter? [10:05] not really [10:05] gdm was giving me trouble maybe [10:05] which is prettier? [10:05] dont think so.. they both obey to whats in ~/.xinitrc [10:06] KDM... as it looks kde'ish :P [10:06] i had t reinstall gdm a couple of times earlier [10:06] sounds like your install is boked all up [10:06] borked, even [10:06] had some blank logout windows === bazan [n=bazan@APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-46-95.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [10:07] :>) === _jon [n=jon@200.47.50.38] has joined #kubuntu === tbfg [n=tbfg@chello062178177134.16.14.univie.teleweb.at] has left #kubuntu ["Client] === schmely [n=schmely@p54AA8421.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === schmely [n=schmely@p54AA8421.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === schmely [n=schmely@p54AA8421.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === regeya [n=shane@dialup-4.159.179.142.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu === fiotjb [n=fiotjb@fiot.via.ecp.fr] has joined #kubuntu [10:22] test [10:23] test workz fine [10:23] how many in here have made lfs [10:23] that's right ;) === arvassil [n=arvassil@host81-132-151-1.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === tecknozic [n=ronan@pcp03329380pcs.mrdian01.ms.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:24] what's lfs ? [10:24] linux from scratch [10:24] ideally, u just compile it all on ur own [10:25] ok [10:25] im thinking of doing a lfs with egdrop and webserver. just to understand linux som more and learn from the experience. [10:25] allthough it would be 10 times easier just install ubuntu on a box and just run what i want directly from it. === thom_ [n=thom@69.180.208.122] has joined #kubuntu [10:25] but i wanna learn some more [10:26] can someone help me? [10:26] you will learn a lot more then just about the linux kernel too.. actually most of the stuff you will learn about will be GNU ware [10:26] just shoot [10:26] do that, im testin ubuntu at the moment, really works fine [10:26] me too [10:26] just a little problem with my webcam [10:26] how do i change nickname here first? [10:26] type /nick nicknamehere [10:27] libben: but to anwer your question, ive done every LFS release since LFS 2.2 === fiotjb is now known as DJIB [10:27] what u mean? [10:27] how many in here have made lfs [10:27] u read every version they done and made a own compile every time [10:28] yup [10:28] why? [10:28] whats the diffrence? [10:28] and some custom ones after i got the hang of it [10:28] its the fastest linux ive ever tried [10:28] shit load faster then even gentoo-custom [10:28] well it only boots the kernel and what u whant [10:28] want [10:28] cant remebr my nick password. anyway...... [10:29] thom_: just type /nick newnickname [10:29] so what is lfs? === hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-33-217.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@85.201.96.176] has joined #kubuntu [10:29] i just installed kubuntu-desktop with kdm and gnome is giving me empty log out screens again [10:29] i thought it only was a book sort of, that was guiding u thru on understanding linux and building it from scratch [10:29] knowledge on how to build a working GNU/Linux system from the ground up [10:30] but for each release it points out what to be aware of with these particular versions [10:30] and the build process has changed slightly over the years [10:30] at one time header containment was a big issue === thom_ [n=thom@69.180.208.122] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:32] you should really try and do one [10:32] but remember the wise words: FBBG! [10:32] (Follow Book, Book Good) === Chadza [n=chorton@pcp0010702372pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:33] =) [10:33] well, are u on ur own now or kubuntu? [10:33] the first couple of times where i thought myself clever, i had to hose the system and start over [10:33] im in fscking stinkdoze, since im at a cafe [10:34] i dont have my own connect atm :-/ === bazan [n=bazan@APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-46-95.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [10:35] but anyways.. time to go home and sleep.. i have 4 ours of math tommorow.. so i better be fit for fight [10:35] l8r guys === macavity over and out === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu === bazan [n=bazan@APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-46-95.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === beast [n=beast@host-1-145-220-24.midco.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:42] i'm having problems installing nvidia drivers... i've removed all the old nvidia files and installed the linux-source-2.6.12 and have also downloaded the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run file, i get an error that my kernel was compiled with gcc3.4, so i do an export cc=gcc-3.4, but the installer will not work, does anyone have any idea what the problem may be? [10:43] no, but the command you'll want is 'export CC=gcc-3.4' [10:43] the uppercase CC is important [10:43] ok, that may be the problem, i'll try that === edulix [n=edulix@80-102-45-154.sev1.dialup.uni2.es] has joined #kubuntu === needlz_ [n=foo@d212-152-14-245.cust.tele2.ch] has joined #kubuntu [10:45] hi... === nxv_ [n=matrix@dslb-084-056-082-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:47] ive got some problem with my sound :/ i updatet yesterday from hoary to breezy, watched a movie, shutdown the pc - fine. then i booted the pc up again..and the sound "disaperared" :/ i checked with lsmod, aplay, alsamixer etc...nothing :( when i play a mp3 with xmms, xmms shows me now error message... here is some detailed output of amixer etc: http://pastebin.ca/25049 . thanks for the help === beast [n=beast@host-1-145-220-24.midco.net] has joined #kubuntu === kal [n=kalene@c-24-34-72-14.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:48] gdh: that seemed to work but it would still not install === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu === Octane [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:49] my external usb sound card mp3+ from creative resists to play a tone. is there an alsa unmute or something? with alsamixer it is enabled [10:49] anyone else have suggestions on how to install the nvidia drivers? [10:52] hm [10:52] seems like kubuntu is dead :p === zyn [n=bhughes@ti221110a080-8663.bb.online.no] has joined #kubuntu === Flying_Eagle [n=f_e@pD95367A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:57] does anyone know why programs that run as root through kdesu don't inherit fonts/colors/etc.? [10:58] zyn: because they're running with root's KDE profile from /root/.kde/* [10:59] that's a bit stupid if you ask me [10:59] zyn: actually no, that's the way it should be. [10:59] considering that kubuntu disables the root account by default [10:59] I like it becasue the change of theme makes it very obvious when an app is running with root privs. [11:00] vox: i beg to differ... the default font size used by e.g. adept is way too large, making the program nearly useless [11:01] zyn: if y,ou make root-privileged apps run with user environment, you can poison the env and crack the box [11:01] zyn: Interesting. what res of screen do you use? 800x600 ? [11:01] gdh: 1280x800 [11:01] at 120dpi [11:01] the default 12pt fonts are *huge* [11:02] zyn: very strange - worth logging a bug for and hassling Riddell ? :) If there is a real issue it'd be worth trying to sort it now gives how close teh release is [11:02] might already be too late, even [11:02] riddell? [11:03] hmm? [11:03] zyn: Riddell is the Mr. Big of Kubuntu. Kneel before him :) [11:04] ahh [11:04] i doubt it's kubuntu specific... i have a feeling it's kdesu === imnotme [n=thom@69.180.208.122] has joined #kubuntu [11:10] about time [11:10] looks like you got to register now [11:10] took like a half hour === jago [n=jago@24-231-191-215.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:11] is any body out htere [11:11] i just installed kubuntu-desktop [11:11] i just reinstalled breezy [11:11] ubuntu has screwed up windows [11:12] jago: im about to [11:12] whats wrong === _florent [n=florent@84.6.131.98] has joined #kubuntu [11:12] you may need to find an application called fix mbr [11:13] i have logout screens and other screens that are just white [11:13] in gnome [11:13] i tried a different box and got other inconsistencies [11:13] i thought you installed kubuntu [11:14] i got both === Chadza [n=chorton@pcp0010702372pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:14] it dont work both. no matter what they tell you [11:14] oh so you men the kde screwed up the desk top [11:14] or desk tops [11:14] i installed kdm earlier gdm same problem [11:15] on 2 seperate boxes same thing [11:15] well i stick with kde and kdm and i have not had problems [11:15] do you use gnome? [11:15] no i prefer the kde desktop [11:15] <_florent> i do [11:15] im going to shtcan gnome I think [11:16] <_florent> i prefer gnome desktop ;) [11:16] so why are u in here ? =) [11:16] well person prferance [11:16] i cant get both running here.\ [11:16] <_florent> lol [11:16] might be because i had an early version of breezy to start. got srewed up somewhere along the way [11:16] <_florent> cause i don't know where to get other irc channel [11:16] sorry i hve not tried since i switched from knoppix [11:17] i had no problems running both then but that was a while ago [11:17] jago: i just switched from knoppix too [11:17] <_florent> i've installed kubuntu first then gnome and had no problems [11:18] yeah, believe it or not ubuntu or kubuntu is better [11:18] im going to reinstall so _florent [11:18] than knoppix i men [11:18] <_florent> no no [11:18] no no what/ [11:18] <_florent> linux is so good for that [11:18] for what? [11:18] <_florent> you can fix every thing [11:19] oh live yep [11:19] <_florent> just find how to [11:19] _florent: you running both gnome and kde? [11:19] oh why does the media devices folder not show any thing but floppy in breezy === _ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@85.201.96.176] has joined #kubuntu [11:20] <_florent> it's a mounted device matter so [11:20] i think they have some bugs to work out [11:20] <_florent> type mount and show which devices are mounted [11:20] even mounted devices don't show [11:21] its just anoying but not a show stopper [11:21] jago: are you using both gnome and kde? [11:21] no, just kde [11:22] i like kde better [11:22] well ive never gotton both to work on same computer [11:22] me too === wvmac [n=wvmac@68-119-135-191.dhcp.chtn.wv.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:22] <_florent> try sudo fdisk /dev/cdrom for exemple to see if cdrom is mountable or not ( with a cd into) [11:23] my notebook starts with kubuntu and goes to ubuntu log in. if i log into ubuntu i have kde theme [11:23] yeah it will mount both cd and dvd roms but it just mount show them in media:/ [11:23] bloks [11:23] bloks? [11:23] time to go see you! [11:23] buloks [11:23] oh seeyah [11:24] agitated sorry [11:24] bye all [11:25] <_florent> the matter is that my english is not so good and i'm afraid not to understand what you mean === Zizzencs [n=mzoli@jane.sch.bme.hu] has joined #kubuntu [11:25] hi [11:25] i would like to install the alloy theme for kde. can anybody point me to a howto? === Phantom^^ [n=john@0-c-6e-93-8e-86.hb.esol.dur.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:28] Hi can someone here please help me configure apt to work with a proxy server ? === ceaser [n=ceaser@138.28.153.100] has joined #kubuntu === torc [n=torc@cpe-65-25-80-44.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] what's the package name for gimp? === nxv_ [n=matrix@dslb-084-056-082-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:33] torc: Uh...gimp? [11:34] tried it. [11:34] says it can't find it [11:34] coming from gnome, how would I activate the repositories? [11:34] torc: try to add universe repository [11:34] torc: Then you probably don't have the repo for it [11:35] !repos [11:35] repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) [11:36] how do I add repositories to kubuntu thought? [11:36] though* [11:36] torc: Same as in gnome. Edit /etc/apt/sources.list as root [11:37] well in gnome you can use synaptic to do that. sorry. [11:37] torc: So get synaptic [11:37] but it says it cannot find it... [11:39] <_florent> try kynaptic [11:39] <_florent> package launcher for kde [11:39] did. === manto [n=manto@ip-116-223.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #kubuntu === manto [n=manto@ip-116-223.adsl.cheapnet.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:39] finally, got it goin' [11:40] <_florent> sudo apt-get install synaptic === Tonio- [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu === Xorlev_ [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu === chavo [n=chavo@13.sub-70-196-14.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === _mike [n=mike@CPE0080c8289877-CM000039179a5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:50] <_mike> The default graphics driver doesnt work so I can't use Konq to browse forums/faqs/docs. Do I install the nvidia driver through adept [11:50] <_mike> Damn - my graphics driver has screwed up the IRC client - I can't read anything - it's all pink === Kejk_PL [n=konrad@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === nxv_ [n=matrix@dslb-084-056-082-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === Chadza [n=chorton@pcp0010702372pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === spine5 [n=spine@216.27.160.114] has joined #kubuntu === Kejk_PL [n=konrad@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]