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dilingerfabbione: ping04:13
dilingerfabbione: that offer of a free sunfire 280 still stands04:14
dilingeri'd like to get it hosted and actually doing something (as a buildd or dev machine), and i'm not convinced debian will ever find hosting for it04:15
fabbionedilinger: thanks but i need a buildd right now05:25
fabbionei don't know where to host it05:25
dilingerok05:32
dilingerit's rackmountable; 4u, though05:32
fabbioneyeah i know the model05:32
fabbionedilinger: would it be an option for you to power it up for a week?05:34
fabbionelike until release?05:34
fabbionejust to help these few days?05:34
dilingeri was hoping to avoid that, but i can if it's needed.  would that mean sparc64 for breezy? :)05:34
fabbionedilinger: yes it would mean sparc64 for breezy05:35
fabbionei can set it up and everything05:36
fabbionei just need you to install it and give root05:36
fabbionethan you can forget it even exitsts05:36
dilingerok, ill have it online in about 30 mins05:37
fabbionecool05:37
fabbioneis there anything installed on it? or do we need to install?05:37
dilingerit's running some form of debian05:37
dilingerprobably sarge05:38
fabbioneok i will need to upgrade it to breezy05:38
dilingerthat's fine05:38
fabbionebecause the host needs to have the latest apt/dpkg set05:38
fabbionecool05:38
dilingerare you sure 2.6.12 will work on it?05:38
fabbioneit's enough a 2.6 kernel05:38
fabbionebut yes.. i am pretty sure 2.6.12 will05:38
dilingerhmrph, this thing doesn't have a video card05:55
fabbioneconsole?05:59
dilingeryea06:02
dilingerof course, my laptop doesn't have a #$! serial port06:14
fabbione*shrug*06:15
fabbioneyour workstation must have one06:15
fabbione:)06:15
dilingeryes06:18
dilingerit's downstairs06:18
dilingerthe sunfire is upstairs06:18
dilinger:P06:18
fabbioneoh06:18
dilingerman, what a pain in the ass :P06:36
dilingerfabbione: wanna email me an ssh key?06:37
fabbionethink that you are doing it for a good reasons :)06:37
fabbionesure06:37
fabbionepreferred email?06:37
dilinger*shrug*06:38
dilingerdilinger@debian?06:38
fabbione@voxel?06:38
dilingerboth work06:38
fabbioneok06:38
dilinger(@voxel is deprecated, thoughj)06:38
fabbioneok.. i will remember for the next time06:39
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dilingersure, i know it's for good reason.. but my roommate's gonna hate you :)06:42
dilingerit's basically in his bedroom06:42
dilingerand noisy :)06:42
fabbionewhops :)06:42
fabbionei can provide ear plugs for free :P06:43
fabbioneand it's only till thursday06:43
fabbionewe will stop it at release06:43
fabbionehopefully we will get buildd's at the DC for dapper06:43
fabbionethe main issue is that we just got OO2 to build on sparc06:43
fabbioneand as you can imagine it's a big chunk of code to do06:44
fabbioneso all the rest is lagging a lot behind06:44
fabbionei assume that at this speed it will finish in 6/10 hours06:44
fabbionethat's a 48 hours build06:45
dilinger002?06:45
fabbioneopenoffice.org206:45
dilingerah06:45
dilingerheh, yea, i bet06:45
dilingerdid you send the key?06:45
fabbioneyes06:45
=== fabbione sends again
dilingermaybe you should send to dilinger@athenacr.com06:46
dilingervoxel.net mail has been screwy for some time06:46
fabbionei did to voxel and debian06:46
dilingeror dilinger@squishy.cc06:46
dilingeryea, @debian is actually a forward to @voxel :)06:47
=== dilinger needs to get around to changing that
dilingerah, cool06:47
dilingerjust got the @debian one06:47
fabbioneok06:47
dilinger69.31.90.14306:51
dilingeryou have sudo access06:51
dilingergive it a try06:51
fabbioneit asks for a passworf06:51
fabbionepasswd06:51
dilingeroh, username fabbione06:52
fabbioneyeah06:52
fabbioneit still asks for a passwd :)06:52
fabbionecheck the permissions for .ssh/authorized_keys06:52
dilinger-rw-------  1 fabbione fabbione 2144 2005-10-09 00:44 authorized_keys06:53
fabbioneor send me the passwd back.. i will need it for sudo anyway06:53
dilingernah, it's NOPASSWD06:53
fabbioneit doesn't let me in..06:53
dilingerwhat banner do you get if you connect ot port 22?06:54
fabbioneSSH-2.0-dropbear_0.4506:54
dilingerok06:54
dilingerthat's my linksys router06:55
fabbioneto what port should i connect?06:55
dilinger22, the router's misconfigured.. having my roommate fix it now07:00
fabbioneah ok07:01
dilingerwhy do girls call to talk when they have absolutely nothing to say?07:15
fabbioneahha07:18
dilingeralright07:22
dilinger69.31.90.13607:22
dilingerthe other ip was in use by someone else07:23
fabbioneyes i am in07:23
fabbionecan you manage to stay around while i upgrade the box?07:23
fabbioneand reboot to the new kernel?07:23
dilingeryea07:23
dilingermake sure you leave the old kernel around, of course :)07:24
fabbioneyeah of course07:24
dilingeroh yea07:27
dilingersomething i should mention; does breezy's 2.6.12 contain qla2200?07:28
dilingerbecause that's required for this machine07:28
fabbioneyes07:28
dilingerok07:28
fabbioneworking on it. i had to get archive fixed first :)07:31
fabbioneETA 30 minutes to download the packages07:32
fabbione:/07:32
dilingerok07:32
fabbioneget a better link dude :P07:32
dilingeri think my roommate's actually downloading tv episodes or something :)07:33
fabbioneoh07:33
fabbioneyeah it's shaky... but not less than a 110KB/sec07:33
dilingeryou have no idea what a struggle it was to get that07:34
dilingeri would've never thought i'd have a problem getting an internet connection in nyc..07:34
fabbionehow come?07:35
dilingersince my apartment is apparently a converted warehouse, none of the cable companies around here have it listed as residential07:36
dilingerno one in the building has cable07:36
dilingerso they didn't have any of the necessary wires running into the building07:36
fabbioneah crap07:36
dilingeri contacted a few dsl providers, but they didn't want to do dry loops07:36
fabbioneso how did you solve it?07:36
dilingeri found one that did, but they were having trouble placing orders w/ the local phone company (verizon)07:36
dilingermy roommate had some sketchy connections w/ (as he puts it) "some crazy russian"07:37
dilingerso we got dsl through him, finally07:37
dilingerwe don't actually get a bill07:37
fabbioneahaha07:37
dilingerwe just slip the guy $50/mo07:37
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fabbionelovely07:38
fabbionedude.. you truely have a bunch of crap installed on that machine :P07:40
dilingeri was using it for kernel builds07:41
fabbionecan that box send emails out?07:41
dilingerfeel free to remove stuff07:41
fabbionenah it's ok :)07:41
fabbioneit just takes longer to update07:41
dilinger(don't ask me what lpr is doing on there; default sarge install, maybe?)07:41
dilingeri dunno07:41
fabbionei don't use that either :)07:41
dilingerthe box has been off since like april07:42
fabbioneyeah mail works07:44
dilingerno spamming from my network! ;p07:45
fabbioneeheh 07:45
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janimohey fabbione I'm here11:36
fabbioneok11:36
fabbionefirst of all get linux-source-2.6.1211:36
janimogot it11:36
janimo           fakeroot debian/rules flavours=686 binary-arch11:36
fabbioneapt-get source linux-source-2.6.1211:36
janimoran this form the debian kernel handbook11:36
fabbioneoh please wait :)11:36
fabbionelet me give you hints11:36
janimook :)11:37
fabbioneour build system is different from debian11:37
fabbioneapt-get buil-dep linux-source-2.6.1211:37
janimoyup11:37
fabbionebuild-dep even11:37
fabbionek11:37
fabbionego into debian/config/i38611:38
fabbioneremove all the falvours you do not need11:38
fabbionethan just build all of it11:38
fabbioneuse:11:38
fabbionefakeroot make -f debian/rules build11:39
fabbionethat will take it's time11:39
fabbionelet it build without any changes11:39
fabbioneonce you have done ping me here11:39
fabbioneand we will hack the rest11:39
janimoso no other makefile changes? if the configs are missing it will just skip them?11:39
janimohmm I have already did this a couple weeks ago and it lasted log so I thiought there's a way to prevent it building all modules :)11:40
fabbionethere are no make files changes11:40
janimobut ok I'll do this again11:40
fabbionethe configs are fine11:40
janimook I'll ping you when it's done, thanks11:40
fabbioneno problem11:41
janimofabbione, ok the kernel built12:38
fabbioneperfect12:38
janimono debs though, is that normal?12:39
fabbionenow copy the new intel8x0.c in debian/build/build-$flavour/..12:39
fabbioneyes that's is right12:39
fabbioneno debs12:39
fabbionebasically replace the old file with the new one in that dir...12:39
janimoso I copy the new file in that tree, doing it now12:39
janimois it a prob that there are debian/patches related to that file?12:40
fabbioneno12:40
fabbionethat's why i did make you build the kernel first12:40
fabbioneonce you have done the copy12:40
fabbionein debian/build/build-$flavour/12:41
fabbionethere should be a file called stamp-build or build-stamp12:41
fabbione(i can't remember)12:41
fabbioneremove it12:41
fabbioneand do again fakeroot make -f debian/rules build12:41
fabbionethat will rebuild only that file12:41
janimowhere should that build-stamp be?12:42
janimoin the root or in debian/build/flavor?12:42
fabbionedebian/build/build-$flavour/12:42
fabbioneyes12:42
fabbionein that dir12:42
fabbionebuild-stamp or stamp-build12:42
janimooh found it12:42
fabbionecan't remember12:42
janimostamp-build12:42
janimook so I replace the file remove stamp, and do a new build12:43
fabbionejust do:12:43
fabbionefakeroot make -f debian/rules build12:43
fabbionefrom the same dir you did it before12:43
janimoit will probably need manual tweaks since some apis have changed after 2.6.1212:43
fabbionethat will lead to a FTBFS12:43
janimook and after the new file si build, I just pick the .ko?12:43
fabbioneno12:44
fabbionedid the new file build?12:44
janimono12:44
janimoit has errors12:44
fabbioneok12:44
fabbioneonce you get to build it12:44
janimoI'll need to take just diff hunks from the diffs12:44
fabbionedo:12:44
fabbionefakeroot make -f debian/rules binary-debs12:44
fabbionethat will create the .debs12:44
fabbioneand put them into debian/build12:44
fabbioneso you can install and test it easily12:45
janimoso I'll dpkg -i the new linux-image?12:45
fabbioneyes12:45
janimoand all related debs?12:45
fabbioneonly linux-image-2.6.12-9-68612:45
janimoit's probably the same version as the one I have now right?12:45
janimook12:45
fabbioneyou don't need to install anything more to try12:45
fabbioneyes it is the same version12:45
janimoand reboot I assume12:45
fabbioneyes12:46
fabbionethe machine should boot fine12:46
fabbionesince it's a sound module12:46
janimoand iterate this until I fix it or give up? :)12:46
fabbionein the worst case, blacklist it12:46
fabbioneso it doesn't get autoloaded12:46
fabbioneand you can modprobe it manually until it works12:46
fabbioneexactly12:46
janimoI can unload/reload but that does not seem to have the same effect as a real init12:47
janimobut just copying the .ko from the tree to /lib.modules would be bad? instead of installing the deb? theoretically12:47
janimoI am just curious about that12:48
janimothanks, I'll go testing this now12:49
fabbioneit should be able to work12:50
fabbionealso.. init doesn't do nothing more than modprobe $module12:50
fabbionethese fancy ideas are just bad12:50
dokofabbione: hi, curious about the sparc build ...01:33
fabbionedoko: yo.. it's still building.. module sw01:49
fabbioneit's about 30MB of log01:49
fabbione32 actually01:49
fabbioneppc is 3401:49
fabbioneso i guess close to the end01:50
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dokofabbione: yes, sw (StarWriter) should be the last app that get's built.02:02
fabbioneperfect02:02
dokothen it can only fail for arch-specific installation bits ...02:02
fabbionewe will know soon enough if you your life is worth something when it will get to install02:02
fabbione:)02:02
fabbioneexactly02:03
fabbioneif it's going to fail there, you better run away very fast02:03
fabbione:P02:03
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fabbionedilinger: ping?06:56
fabbionedilinger: i think that the sparc died like you predicted. i will be back later, so we can build a kernel with davem patch. i already have it committed in baz07:11
fabbioneif it works, we can sneak it in a security update, since crashing the machine that way is worst than a DoS07:12
dilingerblah07:34
dilingerfabbione: it's up for me07:34
dilingersomething's fucked w/ the ip07:34
dilingerheh07:37
dilingeri switched it to 69.31.90.13007:37
dilingeri dunno what the deal is w/ this network; like i said, it's kind of screwy owing to the fact that it wasn't obtained through proper channels07:38
dilingerit badly needs proper hosting ;(07:38
fabbionemehhh08:12
fabbionehmmm i still can't connect to it08:13
fabbionei guess the ssh forwarding is doomed too08:13
fabbionefood.. bbl08:15
fabbionessh: trider-g7.fabbione.net: Temporary failure in name resolution08:15
fabbioneyeah08:15
fabbioneit is somehow doomed08:15
dilingerhum08:34
\shfabbione: do you know if we have this kernel patch included? http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-axp/2003-Jul/att-0008/TIOCGDEV08:46
fabbione\sh: apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12. kthxbye08:53
fabbionedude.. we have tons of patches.. check them :)08:54
\shfabbione: so no ;) 08:55
\shfabbione: I just had fun with suses hwinfo ;)08:55
fabbionedilinger: i can access it again08:57
fabbione\sh: i dunno.. i didn't even open that URL..08:58
fabbioneyou are a developer, start to dig and look :)08:58
\shfabbione: for dapper I'll deal with this again..right now, there is no time to dig deeper into this rabbithole09:00
dilingerhrm09:23
dilingerthat's weird09:23
dilingerfabbione: load avg output on sunfire:09:24
dilinger 15:23:31 up 12:36,  1 user,  load average: 0,00, 0,00, 0,0009:24
dilingernote the commas09:24
fabbionedilinger: i am not using it at the moment10:28
fabbionethe last pkgs are all dep-wait on one that's hitting the archive now10:29
dilingeri mean10:29
dilinger0,00 vs 0.0010:29
fabbioneweird.. it might be a wrong locales setting10:31
fabbionegotta run.. bbiah10:31
fabbionere11:07
fabbionedilinger: top looks ok to me11:07
fabbioneon sunfire i mean11:07
dilingeryae11:08
dilingeryea11:08
dilingeri wish i had some benchmarks11:09
dilingercomparing the 2.6.8 kernel that was running on there to 2.6.1211:09
fabbionewe can make them as soon as i flush the queue :)11:09
fabbionebut it's almost done11:09
fabbionethat box is a really great help11:10
dilingerglad it's been useful11:10
fabbione:)11:10
fabbioneyes.. tomorrow i will build the kenrel with dave patch 11:11
fabbioneso we can test it11:11
dilingerif davem and/or benc could figure out the silo bug that plagues it, the person who actually gave me the box would be pleased11:11
fabbionedilinger: i can get to davem easily11:12
fabbionenot today tho11:12
fabbioneit's dead late and i wanted to restart the buildds11:12
dilingersure11:12
dilingerno rush, the breezy deadline's already gone11:13
fabbioneyeah11:13

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