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dilinger | fabbione: ping | 04:13 |
dilinger | fabbione: that offer of a free sunfire 280 still stands | 04:14 |
dilinger | i'd like to get it hosted and actually doing something (as a buildd or dev machine), and i'm not convinced debian will ever find hosting for it | 04:15 |
fabbione | dilinger: thanks but i need a buildd right now | 05:25 |
fabbione | i don't know where to host it | 05:25 |
dilinger | ok | 05:32 |
dilinger | it's rackmountable; 4u, though | 05:32 |
fabbione | yeah i know the model | 05:32 |
fabbione | dilinger: would it be an option for you to power it up for a week? | 05:34 |
fabbione | like until release? | 05:34 |
fabbione | just to help these few days? | 05:34 |
dilinger | i was hoping to avoid that, but i can if it's needed. would that mean sparc64 for breezy? :) | 05:34 |
fabbione | dilinger: yes it would mean sparc64 for breezy | 05:35 |
fabbione | i can set it up and everything | 05:36 |
fabbione | i just need you to install it and give root | 05:36 |
fabbione | than you can forget it even exitsts | 05:36 |
dilinger | ok, ill have it online in about 30 mins | 05:37 |
fabbione | cool | 05:37 |
fabbione | is there anything installed on it? or do we need to install? | 05:37 |
dilinger | it's running some form of debian | 05:37 |
dilinger | probably sarge | 05:38 |
fabbione | ok i will need to upgrade it to breezy | 05:38 |
dilinger | that's fine | 05:38 |
fabbione | because the host needs to have the latest apt/dpkg set | 05:38 |
fabbione | cool | 05:38 |
dilinger | are you sure 2.6.12 will work on it? | 05:38 |
fabbione | it's enough a 2.6 kernel | 05:38 |
fabbione | but yes.. i am pretty sure 2.6.12 will | 05:38 |
dilinger | hmrph, this thing doesn't have a video card | 05:55 |
fabbione | console? | 05:59 |
dilinger | yea | 06:02 |
dilinger | of course, my laptop doesn't have a #$! serial port | 06:14 |
fabbione | *shrug* | 06:15 |
fabbione | your workstation must have one | 06:15 |
fabbione | :) | 06:15 |
dilinger | yes | 06:18 |
dilinger | it's downstairs | 06:18 |
dilinger | the sunfire is upstairs | 06:18 |
dilinger | :P | 06:18 |
fabbione | oh | 06:18 |
dilinger | man, what a pain in the ass :P | 06:36 |
dilinger | fabbione: wanna email me an ssh key? | 06:37 |
fabbione | think that you are doing it for a good reasons :) | 06:37 |
fabbione | sure | 06:37 |
fabbione | preferred email? | 06:37 |
dilinger | *shrug* | 06:38 |
dilinger | dilinger@debian? | 06:38 |
fabbione | @voxel? | 06:38 |
dilinger | both work | 06:38 |
fabbione | ok | 06:38 |
dilinger | (@voxel is deprecated, thoughj) | 06:38 |
fabbione | ok.. i will remember for the next time | 06:39 |
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dilinger | sure, i know it's for good reason.. but my roommate's gonna hate you :) | 06:42 |
dilinger | it's basically in his bedroom | 06:42 |
dilinger | and noisy :) | 06:42 |
fabbione | whops :) | 06:42 |
fabbione | i can provide ear plugs for free :P | 06:43 |
fabbione | and it's only till thursday | 06:43 |
fabbione | we will stop it at release | 06:43 |
fabbione | hopefully we will get buildd's at the DC for dapper | 06:43 |
fabbione | the main issue is that we just got OO2 to build on sparc | 06:43 |
fabbione | and as you can imagine it's a big chunk of code to do | 06:44 |
fabbione | so all the rest is lagging a lot behind | 06:44 |
fabbione | i assume that at this speed it will finish in 6/10 hours | 06:44 |
fabbione | that's a 48 hours build | 06:45 |
dilinger | 002? | 06:45 |
fabbione | openoffice.org2 | 06:45 |
dilinger | ah | 06:45 |
dilinger | heh, yea, i bet | 06:45 |
dilinger | did you send the key? | 06:45 |
fabbione | yes | 06:45 |
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dilinger | maybe you should send to dilinger@athenacr.com | 06:46 |
dilinger | voxel.net mail has been screwy for some time | 06:46 |
fabbione | i did to voxel and debian | 06:46 |
dilinger | or dilinger@squishy.cc | 06:46 |
dilinger | yea, @debian is actually a forward to @voxel :) | 06:47 |
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dilinger | ah, cool | 06:47 |
dilinger | just got the @debian one | 06:47 |
fabbione | ok | 06:47 |
dilinger | 69.31.90.143 | 06:51 |
dilinger | you have sudo access | 06:51 |
dilinger | give it a try | 06:51 |
fabbione | it asks for a passworf | 06:51 |
fabbione | passwd | 06:51 |
dilinger | oh, username fabbione | 06:52 |
fabbione | yeah | 06:52 |
fabbione | it still asks for a passwd :) | 06:52 |
fabbione | check the permissions for .ssh/authorized_keys | 06:52 |
dilinger | -rw------- 1 fabbione fabbione 2144 2005-10-09 00:44 authorized_keys | 06:53 |
fabbione | or send me the passwd back.. i will need it for sudo anyway | 06:53 |
dilinger | nah, it's NOPASSWD | 06:53 |
fabbione | it doesn't let me in.. | 06:53 |
dilinger | what banner do you get if you connect ot port 22? | 06:54 |
fabbione | SSH-2.0-dropbear_0.45 | 06:54 |
dilinger | ok | 06:54 |
dilinger | that's my linksys router | 06:55 |
fabbione | to what port should i connect? | 06:55 |
dilinger | 22, the router's misconfigured.. having my roommate fix it now | 07:00 |
fabbione | ah ok | 07:01 |
dilinger | why do girls call to talk when they have absolutely nothing to say? | 07:15 |
fabbione | ahha | 07:18 |
dilinger | alright | 07:22 |
dilinger | 69.31.90.136 | 07:22 |
dilinger | the other ip was in use by someone else | 07:23 |
fabbione | yes i am in | 07:23 |
fabbione | can you manage to stay around while i upgrade the box? | 07:23 |
fabbione | and reboot to the new kernel? | 07:23 |
dilinger | yea | 07:23 |
dilinger | make sure you leave the old kernel around, of course :) | 07:24 |
fabbione | yeah of course | 07:24 |
dilinger | oh yea | 07:27 |
dilinger | something i should mention; does breezy's 2.6.12 contain qla2200? | 07:28 |
dilinger | because that's required for this machine | 07:28 |
fabbione | yes | 07:28 |
dilinger | ok | 07:28 |
fabbione | working on it. i had to get archive fixed first :) | 07:31 |
fabbione | ETA 30 minutes to download the packages | 07:32 |
fabbione | :/ | 07:32 |
dilinger | ok | 07:32 |
fabbione | get a better link dude :P | 07:32 |
dilinger | i think my roommate's actually downloading tv episodes or something :) | 07:33 |
fabbione | oh | 07:33 |
fabbione | yeah it's shaky... but not less than a 110KB/sec | 07:33 |
dilinger | you have no idea what a struggle it was to get that | 07:34 |
dilinger | i would've never thought i'd have a problem getting an internet connection in nyc.. | 07:34 |
fabbione | how come? | 07:35 |
dilinger | since my apartment is apparently a converted warehouse, none of the cable companies around here have it listed as residential | 07:36 |
dilinger | no one in the building has cable | 07:36 |
dilinger | so they didn't have any of the necessary wires running into the building | 07:36 |
fabbione | ah crap | 07:36 |
dilinger | i contacted a few dsl providers, but they didn't want to do dry loops | 07:36 |
fabbione | so how did you solve it? | 07:36 |
dilinger | i found one that did, but they were having trouble placing orders w/ the local phone company (verizon) | 07:36 |
dilinger | my roommate had some sketchy connections w/ (as he puts it) "some crazy russian" | 07:37 |
dilinger | so we got dsl through him, finally | 07:37 |
dilinger | we don't actually get a bill | 07:37 |
fabbione | ahaha | 07:37 |
dilinger | we just slip the guy $50/mo | 07:37 |
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fabbione | lovely | 07:38 |
fabbione | dude.. you truely have a bunch of crap installed on that machine :P | 07:40 |
dilinger | i was using it for kernel builds | 07:41 |
fabbione | can that box send emails out? | 07:41 |
dilinger | feel free to remove stuff | 07:41 |
fabbione | nah it's ok :) | 07:41 |
fabbione | it just takes longer to update | 07:41 |
dilinger | (don't ask me what lpr is doing on there; default sarge install, maybe?) | 07:41 |
dilinger | i dunno | 07:41 |
fabbione | i don't use that either :) | 07:41 |
dilinger | the box has been off since like april | 07:42 |
fabbione | yeah mail works | 07:44 |
dilinger | no spamming from my network! ;p | 07:45 |
fabbione | eheh | 07:45 |
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janimo | hey fabbione I'm here | 11:36 |
fabbione | ok | 11:36 |
fabbione | first of all get linux-source-2.6.12 | 11:36 |
janimo | got it | 11:36 |
janimo | fakeroot debian/rules flavours=686 binary-arch | 11:36 |
fabbione | apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12 | 11:36 |
janimo | ran this form the debian kernel handbook | 11:36 |
fabbione | oh please wait :) | 11:36 |
fabbione | let me give you hints | 11:36 |
janimo | ok :) | 11:37 |
fabbione | our build system is different from debian | 11:37 |
fabbione | apt-get buil-dep linux-source-2.6.12 | 11:37 |
janimo | yup | 11:37 |
fabbione | build-dep even | 11:37 |
fabbione | k | 11:37 |
fabbione | go into debian/config/i386 | 11:38 |
fabbione | remove all the falvours you do not need | 11:38 |
fabbione | than just build all of it | 11:38 |
fabbione | use: | 11:38 |
fabbione | fakeroot make -f debian/rules build | 11:39 |
fabbione | that will take it's time | 11:39 |
fabbione | let it build without any changes | 11:39 |
fabbione | once you have done ping me here | 11:39 |
fabbione | and we will hack the rest | 11:39 |
janimo | so no other makefile changes? if the configs are missing it will just skip them? | 11:39 |
janimo | hmm I have already did this a couple weeks ago and it lasted log so I thiought there's a way to prevent it building all modules :) | 11:40 |
fabbione | there are no make files changes | 11:40 |
janimo | but ok I'll do this again | 11:40 |
fabbione | the configs are fine | 11:40 |
janimo | ok I'll ping you when it's done, thanks | 11:40 |
fabbione | no problem | 11:41 |
janimo | fabbione, ok the kernel built | 12:38 |
fabbione | perfect | 12:38 |
janimo | no debs though, is that normal? | 12:39 |
fabbione | now copy the new intel8x0.c in debian/build/build-$flavour/.. | 12:39 |
fabbione | yes that's is right | 12:39 |
fabbione | no debs | 12:39 |
fabbione | basically replace the old file with the new one in that dir... | 12:39 |
janimo | so I copy the new file in that tree, doing it now | 12:39 |
janimo | is it a prob that there are debian/patches related to that file? | 12:40 |
fabbione | no | 12:40 |
fabbione | that's why i did make you build the kernel first | 12:40 |
fabbione | once you have done the copy | 12:40 |
fabbione | in debian/build/build-$flavour/ | 12:41 |
fabbione | there should be a file called stamp-build or build-stamp | 12:41 |
fabbione | (i can't remember) | 12:41 |
fabbione | remove it | 12:41 |
fabbione | and do again fakeroot make -f debian/rules build | 12:41 |
fabbione | that will rebuild only that file | 12:41 |
janimo | where should that build-stamp be? | 12:42 |
janimo | in the root or in debian/build/flavor? | 12:42 |
fabbione | debian/build/build-$flavour/ | 12:42 |
fabbione | yes | 12:42 |
fabbione | in that dir | 12:42 |
fabbione | build-stamp or stamp-build | 12:42 |
janimo | oh found it | 12:42 |
fabbione | can't remember | 12:42 |
janimo | stamp-build | 12:42 |
janimo | ok so I replace the file remove stamp, and do a new build | 12:43 |
fabbione | just do: | 12:43 |
fabbione | fakeroot make -f debian/rules build | 12:43 |
fabbione | from the same dir you did it before | 12:43 |
janimo | it will probably need manual tweaks since some apis have changed after 2.6.12 | 12:43 |
fabbione | that will lead to a FTBFS | 12:43 |
janimo | ok and after the new file si build, I just pick the .ko? | 12:43 |
fabbione | no | 12:44 |
fabbione | did the new file build? | 12:44 |
janimo | no | 12:44 |
janimo | it has errors | 12:44 |
fabbione | ok | 12:44 |
fabbione | once you get to build it | 12:44 |
janimo | I'll need to take just diff hunks from the diffs | 12:44 |
fabbione | do: | 12:44 |
fabbione | fakeroot make -f debian/rules binary-debs | 12:44 |
fabbione | that will create the .debs | 12:44 |
fabbione | and put them into debian/build | 12:44 |
fabbione | so you can install and test it easily | 12:45 |
janimo | so I'll dpkg -i the new linux-image? | 12:45 |
fabbione | yes | 12:45 |
janimo | and all related debs? | 12:45 |
fabbione | only linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 | 12:45 |
janimo | it's probably the same version as the one I have now right? | 12:45 |
janimo | ok | 12:45 |
fabbione | you don't need to install anything more to try | 12:45 |
fabbione | yes it is the same version | 12:45 |
janimo | and reboot I assume | 12:45 |
fabbione | yes | 12:46 |
fabbione | the machine should boot fine | 12:46 |
fabbione | since it's a sound module | 12:46 |
janimo | and iterate this until I fix it or give up? :) | 12:46 |
fabbione | in the worst case, blacklist it | 12:46 |
fabbione | so it doesn't get autoloaded | 12:46 |
fabbione | and you can modprobe it manually until it works | 12:46 |
fabbione | exactly | 12:46 |
janimo | I can unload/reload but that does not seem to have the same effect as a real init | 12:47 |
janimo | but just copying the .ko from the tree to /lib.modules would be bad? instead of installing the deb? theoretically | 12:47 |
janimo | I am just curious about that | 12:48 |
janimo | thanks, I'll go testing this now | 12:49 |
fabbione | it should be able to work | 12:50 |
fabbione | also.. init doesn't do nothing more than modprobe $module | 12:50 |
fabbione | these fancy ideas are just bad | 12:50 |
doko | fabbione: hi, curious about the sparc build ... | 01:33 |
fabbione | doko: yo.. it's still building.. module sw | 01:49 |
fabbione | it's about 30MB of log | 01:49 |
fabbione | 32 actually | 01:49 |
fabbione | ppc is 34 | 01:49 |
fabbione | so i guess close to the end | 01:50 |
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doko | fabbione: yes, sw (StarWriter) should be the last app that get's built. | 02:02 |
fabbione | perfect | 02:02 |
doko | then it can only fail for arch-specific installation bits ... | 02:02 |
fabbione | we will know soon enough if you your life is worth something when it will get to install | 02:02 |
fabbione | :) | 02:02 |
fabbione | exactly | 02:03 |
fabbione | if it's going to fail there, you better run away very fast | 02:03 |
fabbione | :P | 02:03 |
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fabbione | dilinger: ping? | 06:56 |
fabbione | dilinger: i think that the sparc died like you predicted. i will be back later, so we can build a kernel with davem patch. i already have it committed in baz | 07:11 |
fabbione | if it works, we can sneak it in a security update, since crashing the machine that way is worst than a DoS | 07:12 |
dilinger | blah | 07:34 |
dilinger | fabbione: it's up for me | 07:34 |
dilinger | something's fucked w/ the ip | 07:34 |
dilinger | heh | 07:37 |
dilinger | i switched it to 69.31.90.130 | 07:37 |
dilinger | i dunno what the deal is w/ this network; like i said, it's kind of screwy owing to the fact that it wasn't obtained through proper channels | 07:38 |
dilinger | it badly needs proper hosting ;( | 07:38 |
fabbione | mehhh | 08:12 |
fabbione | hmmm i still can't connect to it | 08:13 |
fabbione | i guess the ssh forwarding is doomed too | 08:13 |
fabbione | food.. bbl | 08:15 |
fabbione | ssh: trider-g7.fabbione.net: Temporary failure in name resolution | 08:15 |
fabbione | yeah | 08:15 |
fabbione | it is somehow doomed | 08:15 |
dilinger | hum | 08:34 |
\sh | fabbione: do you know if we have this kernel patch included? http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-axp/2003-Jul/att-0008/TIOCGDEV | 08:46 |
fabbione | \sh: apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12. kthxbye | 08:53 |
fabbione | dude.. we have tons of patches.. check them :) | 08:54 |
\sh | fabbione: so no ;) | 08:55 |
\sh | fabbione: I just had fun with suses hwinfo ;) | 08:55 |
fabbione | dilinger: i can access it again | 08:57 |
fabbione | \sh: i dunno.. i didn't even open that URL.. | 08:58 |
fabbione | you are a developer, start to dig and look :) | 08:58 |
\sh | fabbione: for dapper I'll deal with this again..right now, there is no time to dig deeper into this rabbithole | 09:00 |
dilinger | hrm | 09:23 |
dilinger | that's weird | 09:23 |
dilinger | fabbione: load avg output on sunfire: | 09:24 |
dilinger | 15:23:31 up 12:36, 1 user, load average: 0,00, 0,00, 0,00 | 09:24 |
dilinger | note the commas | 09:24 |
fabbione | dilinger: i am not using it at the moment | 10:28 |
fabbione | the last pkgs are all dep-wait on one that's hitting the archive now | 10:29 |
dilinger | i mean | 10:29 |
dilinger | 0,00 vs 0.00 | 10:29 |
fabbione | weird.. it might be a wrong locales setting | 10:31 |
fabbione | gotta run.. bbiah | 10:31 |
fabbione | re | 11:07 |
fabbione | dilinger: top looks ok to me | 11:07 |
fabbione | on sunfire i mean | 11:07 |
dilinger | yae | 11:08 |
dilinger | yea | 11:08 |
dilinger | i wish i had some benchmarks | 11:09 |
dilinger | comparing the 2.6.8 kernel that was running on there to 2.6.12 | 11:09 |
fabbione | we can make them as soon as i flush the queue :) | 11:09 |
fabbione | but it's almost done | 11:09 |
fabbione | that box is a really great help | 11:10 |
dilinger | glad it's been useful | 11:10 |
fabbione | :) | 11:10 |
fabbione | yes.. tomorrow i will build the kenrel with dave patch | 11:11 |
fabbione | so we can test it | 11:11 |
dilinger | if davem and/or benc could figure out the silo bug that plagues it, the person who actually gave me the box would be pleased | 11:11 |
fabbione | dilinger: i can get to davem easily | 11:12 |
fabbione | not today tho | 11:12 |
fabbione | it's dead late and i wanted to restart the buildds | 11:12 |
dilinger | sure | 11:12 |
dilinger | no rush, the breezy deadline's already gone | 11:13 |
fabbione | yeah | 11:13 |
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