[01:08] c === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-079-215.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:13] fabbione: ping [04:14] fabbione: that offer of a free sunfire 280 still stands [04:15] i'd like to get it hosted and actually doing something (as a buildd or dev machine), and i'm not convinced debian will ever find hosting for it [05:25] dilinger: thanks but i need a buildd right now [05:25] i don't know where to host it [05:32] ok [05:32] it's rackmountable; 4u, though [05:32] yeah i know the model [05:34] dilinger: would it be an option for you to power it up for a week? [05:34] like until release? [05:34] just to help these few days? [05:34] i was hoping to avoid that, but i can if it's needed. would that mean sparc64 for breezy? :) [05:35] dilinger: yes it would mean sparc64 for breezy [05:36] i can set it up and everything [05:36] i just need you to install it and give root [05:36] than you can forget it even exitsts [05:37] ok, ill have it online in about 30 mins [05:37] cool [05:37] is there anything installed on it? or do we need to install? [05:37] it's running some form of debian [05:38] probably sarge [05:38] ok i will need to upgrade it to breezy [05:38] that's fine [05:38] because the host needs to have the latest apt/dpkg set [05:38] cool [05:38] are you sure 2.6.12 will work on it? [05:38] it's enough a 2.6 kernel [05:38] but yes.. i am pretty sure 2.6.12 will [05:55] hmrph, this thing doesn't have a video card [05:59] console? [06:02] yea [06:14] of course, my laptop doesn't have a #$! serial port [06:15] *shrug* [06:15] your workstation must have one [06:15] :) [06:18] yes [06:18] it's downstairs [06:18] the sunfire is upstairs [06:18] :P [06:18] oh [06:36] man, what a pain in the ass :P [06:37] fabbione: wanna email me an ssh key? [06:37] think that you are doing it for a good reasons :) [06:37] sure [06:37] preferred email? [06:38] *shrug* [06:38] dilinger@debian? [06:38] @voxel? [06:38] both work [06:38] ok [06:38] (@voxel is deprecated, thoughj) [06:39] ok.. i will remember for the next time === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-122-217.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:42] sure, i know it's for good reason.. but my roommate's gonna hate you :) [06:42] it's basically in his bedroom [06:42] and noisy :) [06:42] whops :) [06:43] i can provide ear plugs for free :P [06:43] and it's only till thursday [06:43] we will stop it at release [06:43] hopefully we will get buildd's at the DC for dapper [06:43] the main issue is that we just got OO2 to build on sparc [06:44] and as you can imagine it's a big chunk of code to do [06:44] so all the rest is lagging a lot behind [06:44] i assume that at this speed it will finish in 6/10 hours [06:45] that's a 48 hours build [06:45] 002? [06:45] openoffice.org2 [06:45] ah [06:45] heh, yea, i bet [06:45] did you send the key? [06:45] yes === fabbione sends again [06:46] maybe you should send to dilinger@athenacr.com [06:46] voxel.net mail has been screwy for some time [06:46] i did to voxel and debian [06:46] or dilinger@squishy.cc [06:47] yea, @debian is actually a forward to @voxel :) === dilinger needs to get around to changing that [06:47] ah, cool [06:47] just got the @debian one [06:47] ok [06:51] 69.31.90.143 [06:51] you have sudo access [06:51] give it a try [06:51] it asks for a passworf [06:51] passwd [06:52] oh, username fabbione [06:52] yeah [06:52] it still asks for a passwd :) [06:52] check the permissions for .ssh/authorized_keys [06:53] -rw------- 1 fabbione fabbione 2144 2005-10-09 00:44 authorized_keys [06:53] or send me the passwd back.. i will need it for sudo anyway [06:53] nah, it's NOPASSWD [06:53] it doesn't let me in.. [06:54] what banner do you get if you connect ot port 22? [06:54] SSH-2.0-dropbear_0.45 [06:54] ok [06:55] that's my linksys router [06:55] to what port should i connect? [07:00] 22, the router's misconfigured.. having my roommate fix it now [07:01] ah ok [07:15] why do girls call to talk when they have absolutely nothing to say? [07:18] ahha [07:22] alright [07:22] 69.31.90.136 [07:23] the other ip was in use by someone else [07:23] yes i am in [07:23] can you manage to stay around while i upgrade the box? [07:23] and reboot to the new kernel? [07:23] yea [07:24] make sure you leave the old kernel around, of course :) [07:24] yeah of course [07:27] oh yea [07:28] something i should mention; does breezy's 2.6.12 contain qla2200? [07:28] because that's required for this machine [07:28] yes [07:28] ok [07:31] working on it. i had to get archive fixed first :) [07:32] ETA 30 minutes to download the packages [07:32] :/ [07:32] ok [07:32] get a better link dude :P [07:33] i think my roommate's actually downloading tv episodes or something :) [07:33] oh [07:33] yeah it's shaky... but not less than a 110KB/sec [07:34] you have no idea what a struggle it was to get that [07:34] i would've never thought i'd have a problem getting an internet connection in nyc.. [07:35] how come? [07:36] since my apartment is apparently a converted warehouse, none of the cable companies around here have it listed as residential [07:36] no one in the building has cable [07:36] so they didn't have any of the necessary wires running into the building [07:36] ah crap [07:36] i contacted a few dsl providers, but they didn't want to do dry loops [07:36] so how did you solve it? [07:36] i found one that did, but they were having trouble placing orders w/ the local phone company (verizon) [07:37] my roommate had some sketchy connections w/ (as he puts it) "some crazy russian" [07:37] so we got dsl through him, finally [07:37] we don't actually get a bill [07:37] ahaha [07:37] we just slip the guy $50/mo === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-122-217.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:38] lovely [07:40] dude.. you truely have a bunch of crap installed on that machine :P [07:41] i was using it for kernel builds [07:41] can that box send emails out? [07:41] feel free to remove stuff [07:41] nah it's ok :) [07:41] it just takes longer to update [07:41] (don't ask me what lpr is doing on there; default sarge install, maybe?) [07:41] i dunno [07:41] i don't use that either :) [07:42] the box has been off since like april [07:44] yeah mail works [07:45] no spamming from my network! ;p [07:45] eheh === Wax [n=spinach@dsl092-185-225.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mkrufky [n=mkrufky@user-12lcl1s.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:36] hey fabbione I'm here [11:36] ok [11:36] first of all get linux-source-2.6.12 [11:36] got it [11:36] fakeroot debian/rules flavours=686 binary-arch [11:36] apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12 [11:36] ran this form the debian kernel handbook [11:36] oh please wait :) [11:36] let me give you hints [11:37] ok :) [11:37] our build system is different from debian [11:37] apt-get buil-dep linux-source-2.6.12 [11:37] yup [11:37] build-dep even [11:37] k [11:38] go into debian/config/i386 [11:38] remove all the falvours you do not need [11:38] than just build all of it [11:38] use: [11:39] fakeroot make -f debian/rules build [11:39] that will take it's time [11:39] let it build without any changes [11:39] once you have done ping me here [11:39] and we will hack the rest [11:39] so no other makefile changes? if the configs are missing it will just skip them? [11:40] hmm I have already did this a couple weeks ago and it lasted log so I thiought there's a way to prevent it building all modules :) [11:40] there are no make files changes [11:40] but ok I'll do this again [11:40] the configs are fine [11:40] ok I'll ping you when it's done, thanks [11:41] no problem [12:38] fabbione, ok the kernel built [12:38] perfect [12:39] no debs though, is that normal? [12:39] now copy the new intel8x0.c in debian/build/build-$flavour/.. [12:39] yes that's is right [12:39] no debs [12:39] basically replace the old file with the new one in that dir... [12:39] so I copy the new file in that tree, doing it now [12:40] is it a prob that there are debian/patches related to that file? [12:40] no [12:40] that's why i did make you build the kernel first [12:40] once you have done the copy [12:41] in debian/build/build-$flavour/ [12:41] there should be a file called stamp-build or build-stamp [12:41] (i can't remember) [12:41] remove it [12:41] and do again fakeroot make -f debian/rules build [12:41] that will rebuild only that file [12:42] where should that build-stamp be? [12:42] in the root or in debian/build/flavor? [12:42] debian/build/build-$flavour/ [12:42] yes [12:42] in that dir [12:42] build-stamp or stamp-build [12:42] oh found it [12:42] can't remember [12:42] stamp-build [12:43] ok so I replace the file remove stamp, and do a new build [12:43] just do: [12:43] fakeroot make -f debian/rules build [12:43] from the same dir you did it before [12:43] it will probably need manual tweaks since some apis have changed after 2.6.12 [12:43] that will lead to a FTBFS [12:43] ok and after the new file si build, I just pick the .ko? [12:44] no [12:44] did the new file build? [12:44] no [12:44] it has errors [12:44] ok [12:44] once you get to build it [12:44] I'll need to take just diff hunks from the diffs [12:44] do: [12:44] fakeroot make -f debian/rules binary-debs [12:44] that will create the .debs [12:44] and put them into debian/build [12:45] so you can install and test it easily [12:45] so I'll dpkg -i the new linux-image? [12:45] yes [12:45] and all related debs? [12:45] only linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 [12:45] it's probably the same version as the one I have now right? [12:45] ok [12:45] you don't need to install anything more to try [12:45] yes it is the same version [12:45] and reboot I assume [12:46] yes [12:46] the machine should boot fine [12:46] since it's a sound module [12:46] and iterate this until I fix it or give up? :) [12:46] in the worst case, blacklist it [12:46] so it doesn't get autoloaded [12:46] and you can modprobe it manually until it works [12:46] exactly [12:47] I can unload/reload but that does not seem to have the same effect as a real init [12:47] but just copying the .ko from the tree to /lib.modules would be bad? instead of installing the deb? theoretically [12:48] I am just curious about that [12:49] thanks, I'll go testing this now [12:50] it should be able to work [12:50] also.. init doesn't do nothing more than modprobe $module [12:50] these fancy ideas are just bad [01:33] fabbione: hi, curious about the sparc build ... [01:49] doko: yo.. it's still building.. module sw [01:49] it's about 30MB of log [01:49] 32 actually [01:49] ppc is 34 [01:50] so i guess close to the end === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] [02:02] fabbione: yes, sw (StarWriter) should be the last app that get's built. [02:02] perfect [02:02] then it can only fail for arch-specific installation bits ... [02:02] we will know soon enough if you your life is worth something when it will get to install [02:02] :) [02:03] exactly [02:03] if it's going to fail there, you better run away very fast [02:03] :P === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-122-217.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === [paZx] [n=drei@host51-161.pool8261.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:56] dilinger: ping? [07:11] dilinger: i think that the sparc died like you predicted. i will be back later, so we can build a kernel with davem patch. i already have it committed in baz [07:12] if it works, we can sneak it in a security update, since crashing the machine that way is worst than a DoS [07:34] blah [07:34] fabbione: it's up for me [07:34] something's fucked w/ the ip [07:37] heh [07:37] i switched it to 69.31.90.130 [07:38] i dunno what the deal is w/ this network; like i said, it's kind of screwy owing to the fact that it wasn't obtained through proper channels [07:38] it badly needs proper hosting ;( [08:12] mehhh [08:13] hmmm i still can't connect to it [08:13] i guess the ssh forwarding is doomed too [08:15] food.. bbl [08:15] ssh: trider-g7.fabbione.net: Temporary failure in name resolution [08:15] yeah [08:15] it is somehow doomed [08:34] hum [08:46] <\sh> fabbione: do you know if we have this kernel patch included? http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-axp/2003-Jul/att-0008/TIOCGDEV [08:53] \sh: apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12. kthxbye [08:54] dude.. we have tons of patches.. check them :) [08:55] <\sh> fabbione: so no ;) [08:55] <\sh> fabbione: I just had fun with suses hwinfo ;) [08:57] dilinger: i can access it again [08:58] \sh: i dunno.. i didn't even open that URL.. [08:58] you are a developer, start to dig and look :) [09:00] <\sh> fabbione: for dapper I'll deal with this again..right now, there is no time to dig deeper into this rabbithole [09:23] hrm [09:23] that's weird [09:24] fabbione: load avg output on sunfire: [09:24] 15:23:31 up 12:36, 1 user, load average: 0,00, 0,00, 0,00 [09:24] note the commas [10:28] dilinger: i am not using it at the moment [10:29] the last pkgs are all dep-wait on one that's hitting the archive now [10:29] i mean [10:29] 0,00 vs 0.00 [10:31] weird.. it might be a wrong locales setting [10:31] gotta run.. bbiah [11:07] re [11:07] dilinger: top looks ok to me [11:07] on sunfire i mean [11:08] yae [11:08] yea [11:09] i wish i had some benchmarks [11:09] comparing the 2.6.8 kernel that was running on there to 2.6.12 [11:09] we can make them as soon as i flush the queue :) [11:09] but it's almost done [11:10] that box is a really great help [11:10] glad it's been useful [11:10] :) [11:11] yes.. tomorrow i will build the kenrel with dave patch [11:11] so we can test it [11:11] if davem and/or benc could figure out the silo bug that plagues it, the person who actually gave me the box would be pleased [11:12] dilinger: i can get to davem easily [11:12] not today tho [11:12] it's dead late and i wanted to restart the buildds [11:12] sure [11:13] no rush, the breezy deadline's already gone [11:13] yeah