[01:08] <TheMuso> c
[04:13] <dilinger> fabbione: ping
[04:14] <dilinger> fabbione: that offer of a free sunfire 280 still stands
[04:15] <dilinger> i'd like to get it hosted and actually doing something (as a buildd or dev machine), and i'm not convinced debian will ever find hosting for it
[05:25] <fabbione> dilinger: thanks but i need a buildd right now
[05:25] <fabbione> i don't know where to host it
[05:32] <dilinger> ok
[05:32] <dilinger> it's rackmountable; 4u, though
[05:32] <fabbione> yeah i know the model
[05:34] <fabbione> dilinger: would it be an option for you to power it up for a week?
[05:34] <fabbione> like until release?
[05:34] <fabbione> just to help these few days?
[05:34] <dilinger> i was hoping to avoid that, but i can if it's needed.  would that mean sparc64 for breezy? :)
[05:35] <fabbione> dilinger: yes it would mean sparc64 for breezy
[05:36] <fabbione> i can set it up and everything
[05:36] <fabbione> i just need you to install it and give root
[05:36] <fabbione> than you can forget it even exitsts
[05:37] <dilinger> ok, ill have it online in about 30 mins
[05:37] <fabbione> cool
[05:37] <fabbione> is there anything installed on it? or do we need to install?
[05:37] <dilinger> it's running some form of debian
[05:38] <dilinger> probably sarge
[05:38] <fabbione> ok i will need to upgrade it to breezy
[05:38] <dilinger> that's fine
[05:38] <fabbione> because the host needs to have the latest apt/dpkg set
[05:38] <fabbione> cool
[05:38] <dilinger> are you sure 2.6.12 will work on it?
[05:38] <fabbione> it's enough a 2.6 kernel
[05:38] <fabbione> but yes.. i am pretty sure 2.6.12 will
[05:55] <dilinger> hmrph, this thing doesn't have a video card
[05:59] <fabbione> console?
[06:02] <dilinger> yea
[06:14] <dilinger> of course, my laptop doesn't have a #$! serial port
[06:15] <fabbione> *shrug*
[06:15] <fabbione> your workstation must have one
[06:15] <fabbione> :)
[06:18] <dilinger> yes
[06:18] <dilinger> it's downstairs
[06:18] <dilinger> the sunfire is upstairs
[06:18] <dilinger> :P
[06:18] <fabbione> oh
[06:36] <dilinger> man, what a pain in the ass :P
[06:37] <dilinger> fabbione: wanna email me an ssh key?
[06:37] <fabbione> think that you are doing it for a good reasons :)
[06:37] <fabbione> sure
[06:37] <fabbione> preferred email?
[06:38] <dilinger> *shrug*
[06:38] <dilinger> dilinger@debian?
[06:38] <fabbione> @voxel?
[06:38] <dilinger> both work
[06:38] <fabbione> ok
[06:38] <dilinger> (@voxel is deprecated, thoughj)
[06:39] <fabbione> ok.. i will remember for the next time
[06:42] <dilinger> sure, i know it's for good reason.. but my roommate's gonna hate you :)
[06:42] <dilinger> it's basically in his bedroom
[06:42] <dilinger> and noisy :)
[06:42] <fabbione> whops :)
[06:43] <fabbione> i can provide ear plugs for free :P
[06:43] <fabbione> and it's only till thursday
[06:43] <fabbione> we will stop it at release
[06:43] <fabbione> hopefully we will get buildd's at the DC for dapper
[06:43] <fabbione> the main issue is that we just got OO2 to build on sparc
[06:44] <fabbione> and as you can imagine it's a big chunk of code to do
[06:44] <fabbione> so all the rest is lagging a lot behind
[06:44] <fabbione> i assume that at this speed it will finish in 6/10 hours
[06:45] <fabbione> that's a 48 hours build
[06:45] <dilinger> 002?
[06:45] <fabbione> openoffice.org2
[06:45] <dilinger> ah
[06:45] <dilinger> heh, yea, i bet
[06:45] <dilinger> did you send the key?
[06:45] <fabbione> yes
[06:46] <dilinger> maybe you should send to dilinger@athenacr.com
[06:46] <dilinger> voxel.net mail has been screwy for some time
[06:46] <fabbione> i did to voxel and debian
[06:46] <dilinger> or dilinger@squishy.cc
[06:47] <dilinger> yea, @debian is actually a forward to @voxel :)
[06:47] <dilinger> ah, cool
[06:47] <dilinger> just got the @debian one
[06:47] <fabbione> ok
[06:51] <dilinger> 69.31.90.143
[06:51] <dilinger> you have sudo access
[06:51] <dilinger> give it a try
[06:51] <fabbione> it asks for a passworf
[06:51] <fabbione> passwd
[06:52] <dilinger> oh, username fabbione
[06:52] <fabbione> yeah
[06:52] <fabbione> it still asks for a passwd :)
[06:52] <fabbione> check the permissions for .ssh/authorized_keys
[06:53] <dilinger> -rw-------  1 fabbione fabbione 2144 2005-10-09 00:44 authorized_keys
[06:53] <fabbione> or send me the passwd back.. i will need it for sudo anyway
[06:53] <dilinger> nah, it's NOPASSWD
[06:53] <fabbione> it doesn't let me in..
[06:54] <dilinger> what banner do you get if you connect ot port 22?
[06:54] <fabbione> SSH-2.0-dropbear_0.45
[06:54] <dilinger> ok
[06:55] <dilinger> that's my linksys router
[06:55] <fabbione> to what port should i connect?
[07:00] <dilinger> 22, the router's misconfigured.. having my roommate fix it now
[07:01] <fabbione> ah ok
[07:15] <dilinger> why do girls call to talk when they have absolutely nothing to say?
[07:18] <fabbione> ahha
[07:22] <dilinger> alright
[07:22] <dilinger> 69.31.90.136
[07:23] <dilinger> the other ip was in use by someone else
[07:23] <fabbione> yes i am in
[07:23] <fabbione> can you manage to stay around while i upgrade the box?
[07:23] <fabbione> and reboot to the new kernel?
[07:23] <dilinger> yea
[07:24] <dilinger> make sure you leave the old kernel around, of course :)
[07:24] <fabbione> yeah of course
[07:27] <dilinger> oh yea
[07:28] <dilinger> something i should mention; does breezy's 2.6.12 contain qla2200?
[07:28] <dilinger> because that's required for this machine
[07:28] <fabbione> yes
[07:28] <dilinger> ok
[07:31] <fabbione> working on it. i had to get archive fixed first :)
[07:32] <fabbione> ETA 30 minutes to download the packages
[07:32] <fabbione> :/
[07:32] <dilinger> ok
[07:32] <fabbione> get a better link dude :P
[07:33] <dilinger> i think my roommate's actually downloading tv episodes or something :)
[07:33] <fabbione> oh
[07:33] <fabbione> yeah it's shaky... but not less than a 110KB/sec
[07:34] <dilinger> you have no idea what a struggle it was to get that
[07:34] <dilinger> i would've never thought i'd have a problem getting an internet connection in nyc..
[07:35] <fabbione> how come?
[07:36] <dilinger> since my apartment is apparently a converted warehouse, none of the cable companies around here have it listed as residential
[07:36] <dilinger> no one in the building has cable
[07:36] <dilinger> so they didn't have any of the necessary wires running into the building
[07:36] <fabbione> ah crap
[07:36] <dilinger> i contacted a few dsl providers, but they didn't want to do dry loops
[07:36] <fabbione> so how did you solve it?
[07:36] <dilinger> i found one that did, but they were having trouble placing orders w/ the local phone company (verizon)
[07:37] <dilinger> my roommate had some sketchy connections w/ (as he puts it) "some crazy russian"
[07:37] <dilinger> so we got dsl through him, finally
[07:37] <dilinger> we don't actually get a bill
[07:37] <fabbione> ahaha
[07:37] <dilinger> we just slip the guy $50/mo
[07:38] <fabbione> lovely
[07:40] <fabbione> dude.. you truely have a bunch of crap installed on that machine :P
[07:41] <dilinger> i was using it for kernel builds
[07:41] <fabbione> can that box send emails out?
[07:41] <dilinger> feel free to remove stuff
[07:41] <fabbione> nah it's ok :)
[07:41] <fabbione> it just takes longer to update
[07:41] <dilinger> (don't ask me what lpr is doing on there; default sarge install, maybe?)
[07:41] <dilinger> i dunno
[07:41] <fabbione> i don't use that either :)
[07:42] <dilinger> the box has been off since like april
[07:44] <fabbione> yeah mail works
[07:45] <dilinger> no spamming from my network! ;p
[07:45] <fabbione> eheh 
[11:36] <janimo> hey fabbione I'm here
[11:36] <fabbione> ok
[11:36] <fabbione> first of all get linux-source-2.6.12
[11:36] <janimo> got it
[11:36] <janimo>      	      fakeroot debian/rules flavours=686 binary-arch
[11:36] <fabbione> apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12
[11:36] <janimo> ran this form the debian kernel handbook
[11:36] <fabbione> oh please wait :)
[11:36] <fabbione> let me give you hints
[11:37] <janimo> ok :)
[11:37] <fabbione> our build system is different from debian
[11:37] <fabbione> apt-get buil-dep linux-source-2.6.12
[11:37] <janimo> yup
[11:37] <fabbione> build-dep even
[11:37] <fabbione> k
[11:38] <fabbione> go into debian/config/i386
[11:38] <fabbione> remove all the falvours you do not need
[11:38] <fabbione> than just build all of it
[11:38] <fabbione> use:
[11:39] <fabbione> fakeroot make -f debian/rules build
[11:39] <fabbione> that will take it's time
[11:39] <fabbione> let it build without any changes
[11:39] <fabbione> once you have done ping me here
[11:39] <fabbione> and we will hack the rest
[11:39] <janimo> so no other makefile changes? if the configs are missing it will just skip them?
[11:40] <janimo> hmm I have already did this a couple weeks ago and it lasted log so I thiought there's a way to prevent it building all modules :)
[11:40] <fabbione> there are no make files changes
[11:40] <janimo> but ok I'll do this again
[11:40] <fabbione> the configs are fine
[11:40] <janimo> ok I'll ping you when it's done, thanks
[11:41] <fabbione> no problem
[12:38] <janimo> fabbione, ok the kernel built
[12:38] <fabbione> perfect
[12:39] <janimo> no debs though, is that normal?
[12:39] <fabbione> now copy the new intel8x0.c in debian/build/build-$flavour/..
[12:39] <fabbione> yes that's is right
[12:39] <fabbione> no debs
[12:39] <fabbione> basically replace the old file with the new one in that dir...
[12:39] <janimo> so I copy the new file in that tree, doing it now
[12:40] <janimo> is it a prob that there are debian/patches related to that file?
[12:40] <fabbione> no
[12:40] <fabbione> that's why i did make you build the kernel first
[12:40] <fabbione> once you have done the copy
[12:41] <fabbione> in debian/build/build-$flavour/
[12:41] <fabbione> there should be a file called stamp-build or build-stamp
[12:41] <fabbione> (i can't remember)
[12:41] <fabbione> remove it
[12:41] <fabbione> and do again fakeroot make -f debian/rules build
[12:41] <fabbione> that will rebuild only that file
[12:42] <janimo> where should that build-stamp be?
[12:42] <janimo> in the root or in debian/build/flavor?
[12:42] <fabbione> debian/build/build-$flavour/
[12:42] <fabbione> yes
[12:42] <fabbione> in that dir
[12:42] <fabbione> build-stamp or stamp-build
[12:42] <janimo> oh found it
[12:42] <fabbione> can't remember
[12:42] <janimo> stamp-build
[12:43] <janimo> ok so I replace the file remove stamp, and do a new build
[12:43] <fabbione> just do:
[12:43] <fabbione> fakeroot make -f debian/rules build
[12:43] <fabbione> from the same dir you did it before
[12:43] <janimo> it will probably need manual tweaks since some apis have changed after 2.6.12
[12:43] <fabbione> that will lead to a FTBFS
[12:43] <janimo> ok and after the new file si build, I just pick the .ko?
[12:44] <fabbione> no
[12:44] <fabbione> did the new file build?
[12:44] <janimo> no
[12:44] <janimo> it has errors
[12:44] <fabbione> ok
[12:44] <fabbione> once you get to build it
[12:44] <janimo> I'll need to take just diff hunks from the diffs
[12:44] <fabbione> do:
[12:44] <fabbione> fakeroot make -f debian/rules binary-debs
[12:44] <fabbione> that will create the .debs
[12:44] <fabbione> and put them into debian/build
[12:45] <fabbione> so you can install and test it easily
[12:45] <janimo> so I'll dpkg -i the new linux-image?
[12:45] <fabbione> yes
[12:45] <janimo> and all related debs?
[12:45] <fabbione> only linux-image-2.6.12-9-686
[12:45] <janimo> it's probably the same version as the one I have now right?
[12:45] <janimo> ok
[12:45] <fabbione> you don't need to install anything more to try
[12:45] <fabbione> yes it is the same version
[12:45] <janimo> and reboot I assume
[12:46] <fabbione> yes
[12:46] <fabbione> the machine should boot fine
[12:46] <fabbione> since it's a sound module
[12:46] <janimo> and iterate this until I fix it or give up? :)
[12:46] <fabbione> in the worst case, blacklist it
[12:46] <fabbione> so it doesn't get autoloaded
[12:46] <fabbione> and you can modprobe it manually until it works
[12:46] <fabbione> exactly
[12:47] <janimo> I can unload/reload but that does not seem to have the same effect as a real init
[12:47] <janimo> but just copying the .ko from the tree to /lib.modules would be bad? instead of installing the deb? theoretically
[12:48] <janimo> I am just curious about that
[12:49] <janimo> thanks, I'll go testing this now
[12:50] <fabbione> it should be able to work
[12:50] <fabbione> also.. init doesn't do nothing more than modprobe $module
[12:50] <fabbione> these fancy ideas are just bad
[01:33] <doko> fabbione: hi, curious about the sparc build ...
[01:49] <fabbione> doko: yo.. it's still building.. module sw
[01:49] <fabbione> it's about 30MB of log
[01:49] <fabbione> 32 actually
[01:49] <fabbione> ppc is 34
[01:50] <fabbione> so i guess close to the end
[02:02] <doko> fabbione: yes, sw (StarWriter) should be the last app that get's built.
[02:02] <fabbione> perfect
[02:02] <doko> then it can only fail for arch-specific installation bits ...
[02:02] <fabbione> we will know soon enough if you your life is worth something when it will get to install
[02:02] <fabbione> :)
[02:03] <fabbione> exactly
[02:03] <fabbione> if it's going to fail there, you better run away very fast
[02:03] <fabbione> :P
[06:56] <fabbione> dilinger: ping?
[07:11] <fabbione> dilinger: i think that the sparc died like you predicted. i will be back later, so we can build a kernel with davem patch. i already have it committed in baz
[07:12] <fabbione> if it works, we can sneak it in a security update, since crashing the machine that way is worst than a DoS
[07:34] <dilinger> blah
[07:34] <dilinger> fabbione: it's up for me
[07:34] <dilinger> something's fucked w/ the ip
[07:37] <dilinger> heh
[07:37] <dilinger> i switched it to 69.31.90.130
[07:38] <dilinger> i dunno what the deal is w/ this network; like i said, it's kind of screwy owing to the fact that it wasn't obtained through proper channels
[07:38] <dilinger> it badly needs proper hosting ;(
[08:12] <fabbione> mehhh
[08:13] <fabbione> hmmm i still can't connect to it
[08:13] <fabbione> i guess the ssh forwarding is doomed too
[08:15] <fabbione> food.. bbl
[08:15] <fabbione> ssh: trider-g7.fabbione.net: Temporary failure in name resolution
[08:15] <fabbione> yeah
[08:15] <fabbione> it is somehow doomed
[08:34] <dilinger> hum
[08:46] <\sh> fabbione: do you know if we have this kernel patch included? http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-axp/2003-Jul/att-0008/TIOCGDEV
[08:53] <fabbione> \sh: apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12. kthxbye
[08:54] <fabbione> dude.. we have tons of patches.. check them :)
[08:55] <\sh> fabbione: so no ;) 
[08:55] <\sh> fabbione: I just had fun with suses hwinfo ;)
[08:57] <fabbione> dilinger: i can access it again
[08:58] <fabbione> \sh: i dunno.. i didn't even open that URL..
[08:58] <fabbione> you are a developer, start to dig and look :)
[09:00] <\sh> fabbione: for dapper I'll deal with this again..right now, there is no time to dig deeper into this rabbithole
[09:23] <dilinger> hrm
[09:23] <dilinger> that's weird
[09:24] <dilinger> fabbione: load avg output on sunfire:
[09:24] <dilinger>  15:23:31 up 12:36,  1 user,  load average: 0,00, 0,00, 0,00
[09:24] <dilinger> note the commas
[10:28] <fabbione> dilinger: i am not using it at the moment
[10:29] <fabbione> the last pkgs are all dep-wait on one that's hitting the archive now
[10:29] <dilinger> i mean
[10:29] <dilinger> 0,00 vs 0.00
[10:31] <fabbione> weird.. it might be a wrong locales setting
[10:31] <fabbione> gotta run.. bbiah
[11:07] <fabbione> re
[11:07] <fabbione> dilinger: top looks ok to me
[11:07] <fabbione> on sunfire i mean
[11:08] <dilinger> yae
[11:08] <dilinger> yea
[11:09] <dilinger> i wish i had some benchmarks
[11:09] <dilinger> comparing the 2.6.8 kernel that was running on there to 2.6.12
[11:09] <fabbione> we can make them as soon as i flush the queue :)
[11:09] <fabbione> but it's almost done
[11:10] <fabbione> that box is a really great help
[11:10] <dilinger> glad it's been useful
[11:10] <fabbione> :)
[11:11] <fabbione> yes.. tomorrow i will build the kenrel with dave patch 
[11:11] <fabbione> so we can test it
[11:11] <dilinger> if davem and/or benc could figure out the silo bug that plagues it, the person who actually gave me the box would be pleased
[11:12] <fabbione> dilinger: i can get to davem easily
[11:12] <fabbione> not today tho
[11:12] <fabbione> it's dead late and i wanted to restart the buildds
[11:12] <dilinger> sure
[11:13] <dilinger> no rush, the breezy deadline's already gone
[11:13] <fabbione> yeah