[12:00] <SuseUX> Skapare, :-)
[12:00] <ctw> thanks nalioth
[12:00] <Skapare> lsuactiafner: to get that same secure and "in control" feeling that way
[12:00] <lsuactiafner> Skapare : i think it is server grade, you just need to know what you're doing like with slackware
[12:00] <nalioth> Skapare: install the "server-install" when you boot the install cd
[12:00] <hwaara> What ubuntu package is the base installer in? The one where you install the ubuntu distro?
[12:00] <Mercutio150> guess noone knows much for ati
[12:00] <kevogod> Mercutio150, Ask your question again.
[12:01] <Skapare> lsuactiafner: for one thing (since I am a C coder) having the system running exactly from source code I have compiled gives me a warm and fuzzy knowing I can hack the code if I ever need to (and it has happened)
[12:01] <lsuactiafner> tho i think slackware insalls might be easier to keep under control, with a package manage you tend to install more than you want
[12:01] <Skapare> lsuactiafner: I don't even use slackware's installer anymore
[12:01] <Mercutio150> I have an ati radeon 7000 the display is messed up and I need to install the drivers, but I don't konw where to get them
[12:01] <Skapare> lsuactiafner: I wrote a script that takes the slackware package tree and builds the system in a subdirectory
[12:02] <nalioth> Skapare: lsuactiafner take the slack talk to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[12:02] <lsuactiafner> go with slackware if you're installing it on a commerical server and run ubuntu desktops and place with ubuntu servers @ home till you know it well enough to knwo what you are doing
[12:02] <Skapare> lsuactiafner: then I can rsync that subdirectory to a target system ... and voila a new slackware box
[12:02] <lsuactiafner> Skapare : upload somewhere and priv me the link, am going afk
[12:03] <sambagirl> i jsut do fresh install of ubuntu but i cannot find xmms any reason for this/
[12:03] <Skapare> nalioth: I'm trying to connect this to Ubuntu ... I want to do these things in Ubuntu ... can you help?
[12:03] <cyborgcey> sound card trouble, I have compaq with a soundmax dose anyone know what driver I need to use to get sound
[12:03] <sambagirl> tjhis/
[12:03] <oxez> sambagirl: install it? sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:03] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell sambagirl about xmms
[12:03] <nalioth> Skapare: join #ubuntu-motu
[12:03] <lsuactiafner> oxez : sources...
[12:03] <oxez> woops
[12:03] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell sambagirl about restricted
[12:03] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: wrong answer
[12:03] <holden> lsuactiafner, regarding the video codecs, I installed them and mplayer, but the second freezes the moment I hit play on any video
[12:04] <nalioth> sambagirl: "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[12:04] <lsuactiafner> yeh i see..
[12:04] <lsuactiafner> holden : try mplayer -vo help
[12:04] <lsuactiafner> holden : but the mplayerdev will tell you to compile the CVS
[12:05] <TheRedCheese> when i try to install zend studio, i get some errors about missing library files ( http://rafb.net/paste/results/RNIZex49.html ) can anyone help to  install the missing files pelase?
[12:05] <_jason> holden:  did you setup esd sound for mplayer?
[12:05] <lsuactiafner> mplayer -ao esd might work
[12:05] <naw> I have tried all the drivers I can find for my fd57010 (broadcom) wireless nic.  I have also read all the howtos and faqs regaring this issue, but I am unable to find a driver that does not list at 'invalid driver' under ndiswrapper.  Can anyone suggest something else?
[12:05] <GNAM> how can I launch a program, and limit it at 20% cpu during execution?
[12:05] <Skapare> nalioth: you weren't there
[12:05] <holden> one at a time! lol, beginner here.
[12:05] <GNAM> asudausu
[12:06] <nalioth> Skapare: i'm not a -motu
[12:06] <lucaas> firefox crashes when i rightclick flash stuff :o
[12:06] <Skapare> nalioth: oh, sorry
[12:06] <GhostFreeman> I need help with Samba
[12:06] <nalioth> Skapare: there should have been quite a few folks, tho
[12:07] <Skapare> nalioth: I want to find a way to install Ubuntu into a subdirectory of an existing Linux system ... you aren't the one who would know how?
[12:07] <cyborgcey> ok I installed xmms it said I have the newest and nothing change any ideas
[12:07] <GhostFreeman> I am not able to access my /home/ folder from within Windows
[12:07] <johhny> cyborgcey: Try searching synaptic for beep-media-player
[12:07] <Skapare> nalioth: it was mostly quiet there
[12:07] <zrothe> How do you get glxgears to output fps data?
[12:07] <nalioth> Skapare: i can barely get online most days, no my technology knowledge isnt at a high level
[12:07] <nalioth> Skapare: like here, you ask a question in there and wait
[12:07] <johhny> cyborgcey: It is exactly the same as xmms except it uses the newer gtk2 so it fits in with the rest of your ubuntu desktop
[12:07] <holden> _jason : what's that esd sound and how to do so?
[12:08] <Skapare> nalioth: here it isn't just wait ... it's sift through all the talk for the answers :)
[12:08] <cyborgcey> I already have beep player
[12:09] <johhny> well why xmms?
[12:09] <Skapare> nalioth: the thing is, I see a few slackware people here ... and I was hoping they can relate Ubuntu experiences in Slackware terms as a faster way for me to come up to speed on Ubuntu
[12:09] <_jason> holden:  one sec let me find the file
[12:09] <cyborgcey> I have installed several of the drivers from soundmax's web site and nothing is working
[12:09] <Skapare> nalioth: but I suppose that's cheating ... but cheating is good
[12:09] <johhny> Skapare: Slackware, you do it yourself, ubuntu, it is already done for you
[12:09] <nalioth> Skapare: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[12:09] <jonbusby> hiya, anyone have any experience with the ipw2200 drivers getting monitor mode on ubuntu?
[12:09] <zrothe> Is using the nvidia given drivers going against recommendations?
[12:10] <Skapare> johhny: I C
[12:10] <_jason> holden:  sudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[12:10] <_jason> holden:  let me know when you're in there
[12:10] <jonbusby> ipw2200 1.0.6 getting monitor mode anyone?
[12:10] <mylastmorning> how do I get my ATI Video card to stop freezing on me?
[12:11] <hwaara> test
[12:11] <johhny> Skapare: You will find that ubuntu doesn't show you the guts of linux as much as slackware
[12:11] <Skapare> nalioth: so it's strictly a help channel here?
[12:11] <shutson_> Question: I have 3 HD's, 1 for Linux, 1 for WinXP, and 1 for data.  If I want to use 2 partitions on the data drive, 1 for each OS, should the linux data partition be primary?  I know that the ntfs data should be logical.
[12:11] <Ed_Gein> mylastmorning : you buy an Nvidia card
[12:11] <johhny> Skapare: You will also find yourself getting much more done in ubuntu than in slack
[12:11] <cyborgcey> I have some older soundcards could I install one and mybe get sound
[12:11] <amalthea> test
[12:11] <nalioth> Skapare: entry level help mostly
[12:11] <amalthea> test
[12:11] <_jason> holden:  actually before you edit it, make a backup copy
[12:11] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to remove GRUB?
[12:11] <Jaivaz> I'm having a big problem with Breezy. The far right side of the screen just..doesn't exist,libopenh323-1.15.3c2_1.15.6-1_i386.deb
[12:11] <Jaivaz>  can't install and even though it says I should do apt-get -f install that fixes nothing.
[12:12] <hwaara> test
[12:13] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to remove GRUB from booting up in a windows recover console?
[12:13] <Skapare> nalioth: it'll be hard to classify me ... entirely new to ubuntu ... been doing slackware since 1994 ... obviously some thing will be entry level for me ... many won't
[12:13] <nalioth> hwaara: is there something we can help you with?
[12:13] <holden> _jason: did the copy and opened it
[12:13] <anne> Hello.  Anyone seen the issue where the radeon driver doesn't detect their DVI connector?
[12:13] <Ed_Gein> what is it you are testing?
[12:13] <Skapare> nalioth: would #ubuntu-motu be more appropriate for the "install to a subdirectory" questions?
[12:13] <nalioth> Skapare: yes
[12:14] <hwaara> nalioth, sorry I'm unable to get highlighting of a specific nick in xchat working, do you know?
[12:14] <_jason> holden:   ok change the "vo" and "ao" lines to: "vo=xv," and "ao=esd,"
[12:15] <Ed_Gein> 84 updates bahhh
[12:16] <sambagirl> what optoisn i choose for xmms to play it?
[12:16] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to remove Grub loader in a Dos Console?
[12:16] <holden> _jason: done, and still, ice frozen.
[12:16] <holden> :(:(
[12:16] <dabaR> hi. what is that HAL thing anyhow?
[12:16] <johhny> fdisk /mbr
[12:16] <Mustard5> sambagirl, it shoud be in your applications menu
[12:16] <johhny> holden, fdisk /mbr
[12:16] <Mustard5> under sound
[12:16] <holden> johhny, shove it
[12:16] <sambagirl> nono there is output setting ineed changt in prefs but i forget now
[12:16] <_jason> holden:  what exactly happens
[12:16] <teeagoo> how i disable tty? i want only 2 text and one to run X?
[12:17] <Ed_Gein> how is the new BB release ?
[12:17] <holden> _jason: it just freezes up the second i hit play
[12:17] <_jason> holden:  you've tried different files?
[12:17] <johhny> holden, wtf is your problem? You asked how to remove grub. I told you. Quit being an ass
[12:17] <Rotund> dabaR: Hardware Abstraction Layer
[12:17] <holden> a simple .avi video that totem plays perfectly, aside from the horrible video quality
[12:17] <Burgundavia> johhny, holden watch your tone please
[12:17] <holden> johhny, it wasn't me, honey.
[12:17] <johhny> ok
[12:18] <sambagirl> what command i use to kill xmms
[12:18] <sambagirl> it freezed up
[12:18] <johhny> killall xmms
[12:18] <dabaR> why is HAL not running on my comp? i can not start gnome-volume-manager
[12:18] <Ed_Gein> kill
[12:18] <sambagirl> thaink you
[12:18] <teeagoo> johhny, killall -9 xmms
[12:18] <johhny> or you can use xkill and then click the window when your cursor changes
[12:18] <Rotund> dabaR: I don't know.  It SHOULD be running
[12:18] <Mustard5> check your sound settings in XMMS preferences
[12:18] <ompaul> teeagoo, sudo nano /etc/inittab and do the deeds there - however i suggest you keep two text just in case
[12:18] <johhny> teeagoo: I wasn't asking. I know -9
[12:18] <Rotund> dabaR: Can you get to console?
[12:19] <Mustard5> sambagirl, you using esd or alsa?
[12:19] <_jason> holden:  you restarted mplayer after editing file right?
[12:19] <sambagirl> not sure
[12:19] <Rotund> dabaR: type "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:19] <Mustard5> check your preferences>mulitmedia support
[12:19] <concept10> could someone explain the purpose of a 'metapackage' like ubuntu-desktop - does this just pull in a group of packages?
[12:19] <Rotund> dabaR: That should fix it
[12:19] <holden> _jason: yep, done so with several files, differnet formats and all. Weird. Xmms and beep media player froze in a similar way (after hitting play), so I'm stuck with Music Player...
[12:19] <holden> _jason: yep :)
[12:20] <zrothe> Can someone assist me with getting the latest nvidia drivers installed?
[12:20] <zrothe> I'm following this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:21] <sambagirl> ah it works!
[12:21] <sambagirl> thank you
[12:21] <Mustard5> cool :D
[12:21] <sambagirl> now ont to icething
[12:21] <sambagirl> :)
[12:21] <Mustard5> np
[12:21] <nalioth> concept10: metpkgs depend on many packages. but individual pkgs dont depend on metapkgs
[12:21] <dabaR> Rotund: I use the openbox WM. I am now logged in. I run hoary. I am up to date as well. Recently I can not run xine, totem-xine(so I switched to gstreamer, which runs:-/) and my nautilus sometimes takes an eternity to load. yesterday, I tried logging into gnome, and got the HAL error, and could not log in. Now, I put in a cd, and it did not mount. I tried runing the gnome-volume-manager, so it told m,e HAL is not running.
[12:21] <_jason> holden: don't know then.  I had a similar problem like yours but setting up the esd sound fixed it for me.  Have you tried typing in terminal: mplayer filename.avi
[12:21] <Jaivaz> Has anyone else had trouble with libopenh?
[12:21] <teeagoo> ompaul, tkz
[12:22] <holden> _jason: setting up the esd sound thing is what we just did with those av=something and et=smthorother?
[12:22] <Rotund> dabaR: sudo hald
[12:22] <Skapare> so where can I get Ubuntu for Sparc?
[12:22] <Rotund> dabaR: did that fix it?
[12:22] <_jason> holden:  yeah, it just tells mplayer to use ESD
[12:23] <nalioth> Skapare: build it
[12:23] <dabaR> that gave no output, and...still same error on the gnome-volume manager.
[12:23] <Skapare> nalioth: someone on -motu said it already exists
[12:23] <ardya> hi
[12:23] <Mustard5> hi ardya
[12:23] <sambagirl> ok i think war between gnome and kde mess up my computer so i had to restart fresh
[12:23] <naw> http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/
[12:23] <ardya> whats the command to configure sound
[12:23] <naw> oops sorry
[12:24] <anethema> i just use gnome but have kde libs installed so i can run kde apps
[12:24] <anethema> no war needed
[12:24] <anethema> heheh
[12:24] <_jason> holden:  what was the name of the mplayer package you installed?
[12:24] <holden> _jason: and (lame question) I do have the esd thing installed or something?
[12:24] <naw> Does anyone here have extensive knowledge of ndiswrapper?
[12:24] <Mercutio> anyone tell me how to open my xorg.conf?
[12:24] <teeagoo> can i install xfree on Ubuntu? ( my pc is very slow, 500mhz 256ram)
[12:24] <concept10> nalioth, the reason I ask about metapackages:  I want to remove evolution, but evolution wants to remove beagle and ubuntu-desktop.. how do I get around this?
[12:24] <Mercutio> can't remember what to put between gedit and xorg.conf
[12:24] <holden> _jason: that one there ==> mplayer-386 - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
[12:24] <_jason> holden:  yeah esd is the sound daemon gnome uses
[12:24] <LasseL> the question is can you avoid installing xfree :p
[12:24] <anethema> Mercutio, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:25] <Mercutio> thank you
[12:25] <Mustard5> ardya, ask your question again
[12:25] <ardya> alsaconfig doesnt seem to exist, whats the command to configure sound?
[12:25] <frank23> what variable must I set to use gcc 3.4?  CC or something?
[12:25] <anethema> what do you mean 'configure' sound
[12:25] <nalioth> concept10: not sure. but dont sweat losing metapkgs
[12:25] <teeagoo> LasseL, how much xfree is more "quick" :)
[12:25] <_jason> holden:  I did install the -586 which is for pentiums... you can try that if you have a pentium
[12:26] <anethema> yeah i used k7
[12:26] <holden> i don't :(
[12:26] <holden> celeron m
[12:26] <LasseL> teeagoo, I think you could just do the default install and then change gnome for xfce and you'd be set
[12:26] <johhny> frank23. yes. export CC=/path/to/gcc3.4
[12:26] <anethema> holden, that counts :)
[12:26] <LasseL> teeagoo, 500mzh / 256mb isn't very small, it is half-bad
[12:26] <frank23> johhny: thanks!
[12:26] <holden> oh cool, :) gonna do so right now
[12:26] <_jason> holden:  yeah that's on the list
[12:26] <anethema> !faq
[12:26] <ubotu> from memory, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[12:27] <johhny> frank23: If you want that to be the default loaded when you login, put that in /home/yourusername/.bash_profile
[12:27] <teeagoo> LasseL, I use icewm :-) Opera and Xterm :-)
[12:27] <dabaR> Rotund: you got that right?
[12:27] <johhny> teeagoo: xfce is really nice
[12:28] <LasseL> teeagoo, go for it, i'd do it with the default and then "turning stuff off"
[12:28] <johhny> their new file manager thunar isn't bad either when I tested it out
[12:28] <frank23> johhny: ok, thanks
[12:28] <johhny> np
[12:29] <teeagoo> johhny, i got some problems using XFCE ( composite blah blah ... etc )
[12:29] <magio> How do I give permission to upload in vsftpd? I have permission to download..
[12:29] <LasseL> I am upgrading to breezy, how long can it take for it to Configure libc6 ? It seems it has been hanging on that status for 10 minutes
[12:29] <johhny> LasseL: Let it finish
[12:30] <johhny> If libc doesn't install correctly, your system will be beyone broken when you reboot
[12:30] <LasseL> aha, there is a console window with a question in it ..
[12:30] <bytefoo> yo, has anyone had any problems with breezy locking up when setting dma on for a dvd drive?
[12:30] <bytefoo> because i do :-/
[12:30] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul, twysted still not luck with my HD
[12:31] <johhny> teeagoo: You run composite under icewm? bwahahahaha
[12:31] <johhny> teeagoo: pretty drop shadows with an ugly window manager
[12:31] <magio> Does anyone know how I give permission to upload in vsftpd? I have permission to download..
[12:31] <ThePyromaniac> i tried reinstall but i t came up with same error message "No valide device! Press any ket to continue..." (with valide spelt wrong) and wouldnt work
[12:31] <hghfgh> hi guys im back!!
[12:31] <ThePyromaniac> on a web forum someone said it was their boards fault so RMAed it
[12:32] <Dekker4> hi,Here it is a lot of to people...
[12:32] <hghfgh> it worked perfectly
[12:32] <hghfgh> i just have 1 more question: where in the filesystem can i find my Windows partition??
[12:32] <ThePyromaniac> but that means i gotta send off my board, have no pc working, HOPE the board is wrong, if it is bugged they send me a replacement (2 weeks later) and if they decide its fine they charge me 113!
[12:32] <teeagoo> johhny, i dont, i remove, but, ammm, xfce dont run, just this, dont run ... :( but i like icewm, simple
[12:32] <ThePyromaniac> 13*
[12:33] <hghfgh> i searched for the longest time and couldnt find anything
[12:33] <GhostFreeman> I can't access my Samba share
[12:33] <johhny> teeagoo: You tried xfce from apt?
[12:33] <GhostFreeman> I get the error: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[12:33] <holden> _jason: thanks for the help -- didnt work :(:(
[12:33] <teeagoo> johhny,  yep
[12:33] <_jason> holden:  want to try one more thing?
[12:34] <johhny> teeagoo: And you selected it under session on login?
[12:34] <hghfgh> does anyone know at which directory my HD is?
[12:34] <johhny> hghfgh: type mount
[12:34] <holden> _jason: of course
[12:34] <holden> :)
[12:34] <teeagoo> johhny, yep ... :|
[12:34] <whispers_of_clay> bummer, the latest updates to breezy killed my /dev/scd0 which is my external USB DVD burner. great.
[12:34] <hghfgh> yay
[12:34] <teeagoo> johhny, dont run
[12:34] <johhny> teeagoo: That sucks, I dont know
[12:35] <hghfgh> ok thx
[12:35] <johhny> teeagoo: What error do you get?
[12:35] <teeagoo> johhny, hehehehe, yep!!!!!
[12:35] <kbrooks> j/p
[12:35] <hghfgh> in the console just type mount?
[12:35] <_jason> holden:  in a terminal, navigate to the directory containing the file.  Then type: mplayer filename.avi -ao null
[12:35] <ThePyromaniac> can anyone help me?
[12:36] <teeagoo> johhny, i dont remember anymore, when i go to xfce, just dont run :(
[12:36] <holden> _jason: FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).
[12:36] <holden> FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).
[12:36] <holden> (sorry for the double paste)
[12:36] <n0odl3> hey guys i have a question
[12:37] <n0odl3> how do you set up a sound card in Ubuntu
[12:37] <_jason> holden try: mplayer filename.avi -vo null
[12:37] <ajeet> Hello, how do I log out of sudo mode in a terminal?
[12:38] <n0odl3> ajeet try the su command
[12:38] <anethema> sudo -K
[12:38] <anethema> i believe
[12:38] <n0odl3> oh nvm
[12:38] <n0odl3> wait does anyone know how to set up a sound card?
[12:38] <holden> _jason: FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo) -- same thing
[12:38] <El_Che> exit
[12:38] <holden> :(
[12:38] <ajeet> I just exited the terminal, re-entered it and it didn't even ask for the password, not very secure!!!
[12:38] <anethema> ajeet, it has a timeout
[12:38] <anethema> when you enter a pwd dont need to enter it for a bit
[12:38] <bytefoo> you can change the timeout if you like
[12:38] <anethema> but do a sudo -K if you wanna destry the duso session
[12:38] <ajeet> How?
[12:39] <n0odl3> sound card?
[12:39] <_jason> holden:  strange but I guess that narrows it down to a video problem...
[12:39] <ajeet> How do I change the root password, don't want it to be the same as my account one?
[12:39] <teeagoo> hey, i have a hp 3670scanner, but dont run, someone know how make this crap run...? tkz
[12:39] <anethema> sudo passwd root
[12:40] <_jason> holden:  you made sure the changes you made to that file were still there after installing the new package?
[12:40] <ajeet> Thanks!
[12:40] <Skapare> sound cards would be easier to set up if manufacturers didn't make them so screwy
[12:40] <n0odl3> ok
[12:40] <phillambrechts> !w32codecs
[12:40] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[12:40] <ajeet> One last thing guys, deleting a folder in a terminal?
[12:40] <n0odl3> so how do i set up a sound card?
[12:40] <anethema> rm -r <folder>
[12:40] <n0odl3> ?
[12:40] <ajeet> You're the best!
[12:40] <anethema> :D
[12:41] <anethema> biggest, best, and better than the rest ;)
[12:41] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to set up a sound card and macromedia flash?
[12:41] <n0odl3> anyone?
[12:41] <anethema> heh n0odl3
[12:41] <anethema> what do you mean set up a sound card
[12:41] <bytefoo> flash worked for me fine through mozilla :/
[12:41] <anethema> what card is it
[12:41] <bytefoo> installing through mozilla i mean
[12:41] <nalioth> anyone know about irssi hilighting in here?
[12:42] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul?
[12:42] <n0odl3> anthema: its a sound blaster
[12:43] <ngmlinux_> join #ppp
[12:43] <phillambrechts> hello, I installed java with the directions from ubuntuguide.org on hoary, do i need to do anything special to upgrade it in breezy?
[12:43] <phillambrechts> I already performed a dist-upgrade
[12:43] <Jaivaz> Does anyone know how to fix the screen resolution problem in Breezy?
[12:43] <holden> _jason: yep, changes were still there.  I just tried it on another file from the terminal and it works (yey!) but it doesn't if i try to open it from ... i dont know how to call it, from the windows version of the ting
[12:43] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac ?
[12:43] <kbrooks> phillambrechts: *please* don't use the ubuntu guide.
[12:43] <lllmanulll> phillambrechts, Don't think so, why, isn't it working ?
[12:43] <n0odl3> hey anthema its a  soundblaster card
[12:43] <holden> _jason: but still, the video quality sucks
[12:43] <bytefoo> ubotu, tell Jaivaz about resolution
[12:43] <phillambrechts> kbrooks, i used it in the past
[12:43] <lllmanulll> Jaivaz, What resolution problem ?
[12:44] <flodine> does breezy support dvi at 1920x1200?
[12:44] <_jason> holden:  mplayer might just not like that file.  I can try it on my version if it's not something private to see if mplayer just can't play it.
[12:44] <phillambrechts> lllmanulll, i believe its working but i would like the most up to date one to make sure i don't run into problems
[12:44] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to set up a sound card?
[12:44] <mekgp> anybody know of a way to "acquire" libcurl.so.2???
[12:44] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, you called
[12:44] <lllmanulll> phillambrechts, It is ok, dist-upgrade has updated all your packages
[12:44] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul i posted and it wasnt noticed, lol
[12:45] <phillambrechts> lllmanulll, java wasn't a package
[12:45] <phillambrechts> it was installed the way ubuntuguide says
[12:45] <flodine> anyone on dvi
[12:45] <Mystique> hello all
[12:45] <Mystique> I have a problem installing libdvdcss2
[12:45] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul, i tried a reinstall and now it still does not work. someone on a webforum had a similar problem but got no answeres so just RMAed it. that will be a long time for me with no pc, and if the board is fine i gotta pay 13!
[12:45] <Mystique> it complains about libc6
[12:45] <Mystique> how might I possibly go about dealing w/ that?
[12:45] <Mercutio> ok how do I DL gstreamer and install it?
[12:46] <kbrooks> Mystique: did you use the ubuntu guide to do so?
[12:46] <lllmanulll> phillambrechts, Well, this seems to be sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5, right ?
[12:46] <Mystique> yes
[12:46] <Mystique> kbrooks: I get an error dealing w/ libc
[12:46] <phillambrechts> what?
[12:46] <kbrooks> uh-oh....
[12:46] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, really you need to probe the disk - check your bios
[12:46] <Mystique> ibdvdcss2: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[12:46] <Mystique> kbrooks: this is my error
[12:46] <lllmanulll> phillambrechts, The ubuntuguide seems to give this command for installation
[12:46] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, other than that its spend more time with your GF :-)
[12:47] <Mystique> I have not seen this error in any of the wiki pages
[12:47] <lllmanulll> phillambrechts, And this is actually installing a new package
[12:47] <Mystique> or google :/
[12:47] <Jaivaz> Eep
[12:47] <bytefoo> noo firefox crashed :(
[12:47] <phillambrechts> lllmanulll, i installed it before the ubuntuguide added backports
[12:47] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul chuckle, true. what do you mean by probe my disk though?
[12:47] <Mercutio> ok how do I DL gstreamer and install it?
[12:47] <kbrooks> Mystique: well, show the sources.list on the pastebin in the topic
[12:47] <Mystique> k (ty) two seconds
[12:47] <Jaivaz> Anyhow, the screen is still the same. The far right of it isn't being used at all
[12:47] <nalioth> Mercutio: you should never d/l anything to install
[12:47] <muszek> hello
[12:47] <n0odl3> does anyohne know how to set up a sound card?
[12:47] <nalioth> Mercutio: use synaptic for your software additions and removals
[12:47] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, see if the disk spins up at boot
[12:48] <Mercutio> ok that gets what I need for me then?
[12:48] <ThePyromaniac> twysted thinks me disk is fine
[12:48] <ompaul> stuff like that check out the bios and make sure whatever is in there is correct
[12:48] <dabaR> I can not log into gnome at all, with any of my users(I tried 2, one of which has never befoer logged into gdm.) I get a HAL error, that it can not be started, and then it just hangs, I can click on the panel's show desktop icon, but I can not click on the desktop.
[12:48] <kbrooks> nalioth: look at Mystique's problem. it smells like marillat
[12:48] <nalioth> kbrooks: so help Mystique sniff
[12:48] <kbrooks> okay, nalioth
[12:48] <dabaR> Actually, it logs in, but i get that HAL error, and it takes a long time for nautilus to log in.
[12:48] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, there is one other option and it would not really go to waste - buy another sata disk and use it to check out your setup
[12:48] <Mystique> http://pastebin.com/387569
[12:48] <ThePyromaniac> disk is vibrating and very hot ompaul
[12:49] <Mystique> there are no comments there just sources
[12:49] <Mercutio> ok I got a whole bunch of error messages when I started synaptic
[12:49] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul, right... i just got find 70 lol
[12:49] <nalioth> kbrooks: see the problem?
[12:49] <muszek> I've just installed ubuntu on my parents' computer.  The only problem is that I get 60Hz refresh rate (and I can't change it... should be 75). Samsung SyncMaster 750s and Nvidia nForce...
[12:49] <phillambrechts> whatever it seems to work
[12:49] <muszek> could anyone help me please?
[12:49] <ompaul> so its on but not getting read - I would remove its power and see if the machine complains at boot up
[12:49] <kbrooks> nalioth: backports?
[12:49] <n0odl3> hello?
[12:49] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul thanks for trying to help man :D
[12:50] <nalioth> kbrooks: mirrormax is gone for good
[12:50] <kbrooks> AHA
[12:50] <antix> is it ok to have /boot as reiserfs?
[12:50] <kbrooks> nalioth: i was right!
[12:50] <kbrooks> marillat!
[12:50] <Mystique> yes apt does complain about mirrormax's GPG key.. (iirc)
[12:50] <kbrooks> Mystique: you have the marillat repo enabled. where did you enable it from?
[12:50] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul good idea
[12:51] <Mystique> as in what site told me to add it or how did I physically add it?
[12:51] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, you got nothing to loose but a bit of time today and tomorrow
[12:51] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul exactly
[12:51] <ctw> does anybody here have an HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop with working suspend to disk/ram in breezy?
[12:51] <ThePyromaniac> brb then
[12:51] <Mystique> kbrooks: ..
[12:51] <kbrooks> Mystique: what site told you to add it?
[12:51] <Mystique> looking..
[12:51] <phillambrechts> mozilla-mplayer is crashing my firefox, what can i do
[12:51] <antix> is it ok to have /boot as reiserfs or should I use ext3?
[12:51] <dabaR> What can I do to find out why my nautilus takes a longer time than normal to load? like a minute or so.
[12:52] <Mystique> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[12:52] <poningru_> antix: its fine
[12:52] <kbrooks> Mystique: also, cdroms get out of date fast
[12:52] <Mystique> that entry?
[12:52] <kbrooks> Mystique: yes that entry
[12:52] <ctw> antix: I have everything in reiserFS and it works just fine
[12:52] <Mystique> yes I haven't removed it :/
[12:52] <poningru_> you dont have to switch to ext3 but lots of progs dont like reiserfs
[12:52] <antix> thanks :)
[12:52] <Mystique> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:52] <Mystique> there
[12:52] <macgeek> question: anyone know what dsl modems are supported by ubuntu? i know d-link is...
[12:52] <poningru_> macgeek: um all of them
[12:53] <larsrohdin> whats the best update in breezy?
[12:53] <Mystique> it speaks of using 'gedit' (vi is better.. )
[12:53] <dooglus> antix: my /boot is in reiserfs without problems
[12:53] <kbrooks> Mystique: OK.
[12:53] <larsrohdin> or biggest?
[12:53] <dabaR> Also, my gnome-volume-manager is not working, says that HAL is not running. I have tried sudo hald, which gave no output, but did not fix anything.
[12:53] <Mystique> I'm assuming thats the problem?
[12:53] <macgeek> poningru: westell?
[12:53] <dooglus> larsrohdin: the wallpaper
[12:53] <kbrooks> Mystique: anyway, marillat is for  debian
[12:53] <larsrohdin> dooglus, new wallpaper?
[12:53] <poningru> macgeek: as long as you connect it using a network cable
[12:53] <Mystique> I'm a new ubuntu user 'today'
[12:53] <dooglus> larsrohdin: ok yes
[12:53] <Mystique> ok
[12:53] <antix> poningru, any special programs don't like resierfs?
[12:53] <dooglus> antix: beagle doesn't like reiserfs too much
[12:53] <poningru> antix: for example beagle has couple of probs
[12:53] <Mystique> so I'm assuming I need an ubuntu repo that provides the same packages?
[12:54] <phillambrechts> does the -686 kernel make a difference?
[12:54] <dabaR> My CDs do not mount, only manually, and only one of the two drives can be mounted manually.
[12:54] <kbrooks> Mystique: marillat is a repositoryfor debian. the packages there are built on debian sid, not ubuntu
[12:54] <dooglus> it basically doesn't work at all well with reiserfs, since it can't remember which files it has indexed and which it hasn't...
[12:54] <antix> ok but do you recomend reiserfs anyway?
[12:54] <poningru> macgeek: the usb connection thing I havent tried
[12:54] <Mystique> I tried to follow the wiki.. and thats the problem? ;)
[12:54] <dooglus> antix: it stops me using beagle.  other than that I've had to problems
[12:54] <macgeek> poningru: but westell via ethernet works?
[12:54] <kbrooks> Mystique: comment out your cdrom entry, and comment out the marillat entry too.
[12:54] <poningru> macgeek: ofcourse
[12:54] <bytefoo> yeah i cant get beagle to work either :(
[12:54] <poningru> macgeek: it worked for me
[12:55] <antix> dooglus, what do you gain from raiserfs?
[12:55] <dooglus> antix: and that's a blessing in disguise because that allows me to live without mono...  :)
[12:55] <poningru> macgeek: just make sure you connect during boot
[12:55] <macgeek> poningru: thanks
[12:55] <dooglus> antix: reiserfs is very fast
[12:55] <bytefoo> its bad for laptops though
[12:55] <poningru> bytefoo: how so?
[12:55] <kbrooks> Mystique: ubuntu uses the same format as debian re packages (.deb). It's based on Debian
[12:55] <bytefoo> always accessing the disks runs out the battery very fast :/
[12:55] <dooglus> antix: it's also a 'proper' journalled filesystem, designed to be journalled.  ext3 is ext2 with journalling added on after.
[12:55] <poningru> ah ic
[12:55] <macgeek> poningru: ok
[12:56] <poningru> macgeek: I meant connect before starting the computer
[12:56] <antix> dooglus, ok I'm installing it on a server, no need for beagle :)
[12:56] <kbrooks> Mystique: however, ubuntu is NOT debian just because it is based on debian.
[12:56] <ericz> uh can someone help me out?
[12:56] <Mystique> ok
[12:56] <phillambrechts> yesterday, was such an easy game to play
[12:56] <Mystique> done and updated and installed
[12:56] <Mystique> ty
[12:56] <Mystique> but
[12:56] <macgeek> poningru: how so? you mean already have the modem running?
[12:56] <Mystique> still dvd issue :/
[12:56] <poningru> erick: whats the prob?
[12:56] <kbrooks> Mystique: this is why you get those libc6 problems
[12:56] <ericz> i ran "sudo apt-get dist-update" or something, and i
[12:56] <Pluk> bytefoo, it uses my hd rarely when im on batt. with reiserfs
[12:56] <ericz> cant open gnome display manager
[12:56] <ericz> when i boot
[12:56] <ericz> im in terminal
[12:56] <Mystique> ** Message: don't know how to handle video/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)2, systemstream=(boolean)false
[12:56] <poningru> macgeek: yeah start up the modem, connect to comp then start it up
[12:56] <Mystique> and all the usual messages next
[12:57] <Pluk> only when i start a new prog. i even hear it spinning up
[12:57] <Mystique> about ac3 and dvdsubpicture
[12:57] <macgeek> poningru: ok thanks
[12:57] <dooglus> antix: i have heard reports that ext3 is somehow safer than reiserfs.  I don't know whether that is true.  but my laptop's battery is broken, and the power cable is lose - so I power down accidentally quite a lot.  I've never suffered any data loss to my knowledge.
[12:57] <poningru> ericz: what did you do exactly?
[12:57] <bytefoo> maybe they changed it
[12:57] <dooglus> s/lose/loose/
[12:57] <poningru> ericz: did you change the repository list?
[12:57] <antix> dooglus, ok thanks
[12:57] <ericz> well this guy was telling me how to upgrade to breezy from hoary, he gave me a sources.list and told me to apt-get update, i did, i had some errors about keys or something, he told me to do apt-get dist-update then
[12:58] <ericz> and i rebooted after running it, and gnome display manager fails to open on boot
[12:58] <kbrooks> erick: upgrade
[12:58] <Mercutio150> err
[12:58] <kbrooks> not update
[12:58] <ericz> ok, well i probably ran that then maybe?
[12:58] <poningru> erick: did you do 'apt-get dist-update' or 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[12:58] <poningru> ?
[12:58] <ericz> not entirely sure
[12:59] <ericz> :(
[12:59] <macgeek> another question: should ubuntu work with any ethernet card, e.g., one i pick up used at computer surplus?
[12:59] <SymGeosis> Hm, anybody have aboutubuntu.css or the proper css file for Breezy start page for Firefox/Epiphany?
[12:59] <Mercutio150> ok can someone help me with synaptic?
[12:59] <poningru> macgeek: yeah almost every ethernet card should work with ubuntu
[12:59] <krod> don't ask to ask, just ask
[12:59] <macgeek> poningru: thanks once more
[12:59] <poningru> np
[01:00] <Mystique> kbrooks: so no idea what I should do next to make my error go away?
[01:00] <Mystique> also that repo is on this site as well..
[01:00] <kbrooks> Mystique: not really
[01:00] <Mystique> http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt
[01:00] <poningru> ericz: so you cant get the graphical part at all?
[01:00] <muszek> bye
[01:00] <ericz> no
[01:00] <ericz> it boots into like command prompt mode
[01:00] <ericz> when booting, it says starting gnome display manager FAIL
[01:01] <poningru> ericz: crap ic
[01:01] <ericz> ?
[01:01] <satafterh> I am having issues sharing folders on home network? is there a bug or is it me??
[01:01] <SymGeosis> ericz, you don't happen to have an ATI graphics card do you?
[01:01] <ericz> i dont think so
[01:01] <poningru> satafterh: what are you using? samba?
[01:02] <ericz> i think i seriously did something wrong, its not a gfx card thing
[01:02] <ericz> cuz it worked on hoary
[01:02] <SymGeosis> Okay, good. Have you tried "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[01:02] <ericz> nope
[01:02] <SymGeosis> Try that.
[01:02] <ericz> well im in command prompt mode thing
[01:02] <ericz> its kinda forcin me to type in irc
[01:02] <ericz> how do i type an actual cmd
[01:03] <satafterh> poningru - tried but it wont let me configure it
[01:03] <kbrooks> ericz: u using telnet or smth
[01:03] <ericz> no
[01:03] <ericz> i dont know
[01:03] <kbrooks> irssi?
[01:03] <ericz> i booted up in command prompt mode thing
[01:03] <ericz> god..
[01:03] <SymGeosis> ericz, ctrl-alt F2
[01:03] <poningru> satafterh: are you connecting windows-ubuntu or ubuntu-ubuntu?
[01:03] <SymGeosis> Oh, you're in rescue/single user mode?
[01:03] <ericz> not doing anything
[01:04] <tyler_durden> how do i configure sound? i deleted the icon off my taskbar thing
[01:04] <kbrooks> ericz: how are you connected exactly
[01:04] <ericz> i typed "irc"
[01:04] <ericz> in the prompt
[01:04] <ericz> when i booted up
[01:04] <ericz> to come here
[01:04] <kbrooks> ericz: you are running irssui
[01:04] <poningru> tyler_durden: you can add it back
[01:04] <ericz> i dont think so
[01:05] <ericz> not sure
[01:05] <poningru> right click on an empty portion of the panel
[01:05] <kbrooks> ericz: u are
[01:05] <ericz> ..........k
[01:05] <poningru> tyler_durden: and add
[01:05] <BjornW> any network guru's here?
[01:05] <kbrooks> ericz: /version tells u
[01:05] <dooglus> antix: here's a page which is quite 'pro-ext3': http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/afig-ct-ext3-intro.xml
[01:05] <ericz> .......
[01:05] <tyler_durden> OH thats right
[01:05] <tyler_durden> ty ponigru
[01:06] <SymGeosis> ericz, the easiest way to fix this would be for you to exit out of single user mode by exiting your IRC client. then typing "exit". As long as Xorg crashing doesn't lock up your computer you should be fine. Once there you should do the command I gave you.
[01:06] <phillambrechts> Why doesn't usplash work on dist-upgrades
[01:06] <phillambrechts> ?
[01:06] <SymGeosis> ericz, you could then do a ctrl-atl F2 and start your IRC client.
[01:06] <satafterh> I am connecting to xp, i am able to view xp shared folders on ubunbu but cant seam to set up sharing on ubuntu. I did it befor and i remenber it being easy but it just assked me for root pass word and then wont let me configure shareing
[01:07] <hwaara> is it possible to search on all translated strings in ubuntu?
[01:07] <poningru> satafterh: yeah you need samba for that
[01:07] <hwaara> to figure out in which package a specific string is located
[01:07] <pminetti> hi, i traing to configure my nvidia, but when i run nvidia-sttiengs, it says ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display
[01:07] <poningru> satafterh: if you need to share files from your ubuntu computer to your xp computer you need samba
[01:08] <dooglus> SymGeosis: I don't know why ubuntu doesn't offer a multiuser runlevel without gdm for ericz to solve his proble
[01:08] <SymGeosis> Bah, I didn't even noice that he left.
[01:08] <bytefoo> :/
[01:08] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to set up a soundcard
[01:08] <n0odl3> its a sound blaster
[01:08] <bytefoo> not me :(
[01:08] <poningru> satafterh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[01:08] <moparfan90> hello i just got my AMD athlon 64 2800 and my new gigibyte motherboard. i wanted to know if ubuntu-64 is stable and is able to run all the same programs that the normal 32-bit ubuntu can?
[01:08] <poningru> did you read throught that?
[01:08] <SymGeosis> dooglus, it could I suppose. But single-user mode is a standard feature on all distros (to include Unix).
[01:09] <codenut> hi everyone
[01:09] <dooglus> SymGeosis: right.  runlevel 1 is single user, but runlevels 2 and 3 are the same...  why not have level 2 be without gdm and level 3 be with gdm?
[01:09] <poningru> moparfan90: yes almost all the free software in ubuntu is 64-bit capable
[01:09] <Steve_de_Tech> I use a AMD 64 and Kubuntu 5.04.   Works good.
[01:09] <poningru> moparfan90: couple of the closed ones are not
[01:09] <moparfan90> oo ok thanks
[01:09] <pminetti> hi, i traing to configure my nvidia, but when i run nvidia-settings, it says ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display any help?
[01:10] <moparfan90> poningru, cloased one? what do you mean
[01:10] <poningru> moparfan90: flash
[01:10] <poningru> moparfan90: closed source/ non-free
[01:10] <moparfan90> poningru, cant i use the 32-bt version?
[01:10] <SymGeosis> dooglus, I'm not familiar with the way Linux init levels works as I come from a FreeBSD/Solaris background. *shrugs*
[01:10] <poningru> moparfan90: not sure
[01:10] <poningru> moparfan90: let me look that up
[01:10] <satafterh> I have samba but every thing is grayed out so i cant configure it
[01:10] <moparfan90> poningru, ok thanks
[01:10] <dooglus> SymGeosis: it's all done by the links in /etc/rc<level>.d
[01:11] <poningru> satafterh: hmm how did you install samba?
[01:11] <dooglus> SymGeosis: so running "sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm /etc/rc2.d/K01gdm" would do what I want.  you would have to edit /etc/inittab to set the default level to be 3 if you still wanted gdm as default
[01:11] <satafterh> its been there
[01:11] <[t0rc] > anyone here using ATI Xorg drivers?
[01:11] <greg-> After upgrading to breezy, one of my machines hangs at gdm login.  I am using ldap.  The other machines seem unaffected, and I cannot find anything interesting in the logs.  I can log in fine at the console or by ssh.  Any thoughts?
[01:12] <n0odl3> how do you log out of root?
[01:12] <n0odl3> how do i log out of the root terminal
[01:12] <_marx_> exit
[01:12] <[t0rc] > type exit
[01:12] <n0odl3> thats it
[01:12] <zrothe> what is the latest version of linux-source ?
[01:12] <n0odl3> nothing will happeN?
[01:12] <ThePyromaniac> this is annoying... does anyone know how to get around the error message "No valide device!" on boot-up? Windows does not recognise my SATA HD and neither does LiveCD, but the bios chucks up the device name and its capacity along with that error message
[01:12] <Chris_Tucker> ive just changed sound cards to one with a different chipset... how do i reconfigure to use the new one?
[01:12] <dooglus> n0odl3: or control-d
[01:12] <boxerboy29> i installed forg and now i cant find it it didnt get put in menu also a few other things didnt is there something im missing?
[01:12] <n0odl3> yeah how do you set up a sound card?
[01:13] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: you should try moving your SATA connector to another channel on your motherboard.
[01:13] <dooglus> zrothe: 2.6.12-9.22
[01:13] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc good suggestion, tried that and it did not work
[01:13] <poningru> moparfan90: sorry dude you cant
[01:14] <poningru> satafterh: did you read through that page?
[01:14] <poningru> cause I am not sure you installed the extra stuff
[01:14] <moparfan90> poningru, oo   in other distros you can... is flash the only thing that doesnt work?
[01:14] <satafterh> yes, its just all grayed out
[01:14] <n0odl3> theres no way to set up a sound card?
[01:14] <leagris> good night all european folks and good evening the west folks. Have sexy dream with the penguin tonight :)
[01:14] <poningru> moparfan90: I am not so exp in this so not sure
[01:14] <mhz_ed> hi all
[01:14] <moparfan90> poningru, ok thanks for you help
[01:14] <macgeek> hi
[01:15] <pminetti> hi, i traing to configure my nvidia, but when i run nvidia-settings, it says ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display any help?
[01:15] <mhz_ed> has any one here ever done a netboot install?
[01:15] <ThePyromaniac> anyone else got an ideas?
[01:15] <poningru> !samba
[01:15] <Chris_Tucker> ive just changed sound cards to one with a different chipset... how do i reconfigure to use the new one?
[01:15] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: are you overclocking?
[01:15] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[01:15] <moparfan90> does anyonw know when seveas will be on again?
[01:15] <macgeek> mhz_ed: i am going to as soon as i get an ethernet card
[01:15] <n0odl3> ok i just put in a new sound card how do i set it uP?
[01:15] <mhz_ed> macgeek, have you ever in your life?
[01:15] <nalioth> moparfan90: he is in and out every day
[01:15] <moparfan90> i know
[01:15] <macgeek> mhz_ed: nope
[01:15] <moparfan90> im here every day
[01:15] <macgeek> sorry
[01:16] <kbrooks> !ftp
[01:16] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, kbrooks
[01:16] <kbrooks> :|
[01:16] <mhz_ed> macgeek, do you know what you need (afaik, tftp + dhcp server + netboot.gz)
[01:16] <mhz_ed> ?
[01:16] <ProN00b> i am bored, does anone know some cool 3d gfx stuff i can get with apt-get ?
[01:16] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to set up a new sound card?
[01:16] <n0odl3> actually its old but i just put it in
[01:16] <bytefoo> ProN00b, how about 3ddesktop
[01:16] <bytefoo> :|
[01:16] <kbrooks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51611 :)
[01:16] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc no i just removed the sata disk and put it back after putting the HD in anohter pc
[01:17] <poningru> satafterh: dude what is greyed out?
[01:17] <mhz_ed> n0odl3, did you run alsaconfig, already?
[01:17] <thewayofzen> i think my upgrade to breezy is successful?
[01:17] <ProN00b> bytefoo, i already seen it on screenshots, doesn't look that cool to me and i don't want to have it eat its way into my system
[01:17] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: hmm...what kinda HDD is it? if Hitachi Deskstar when did you buy it?
[01:17] <moparfan90> kbrooks, do you know if i use ubuntu-64bit i would be able to use flash and all of those things?
[01:17] <dabaR> what is the mount file again, the one that automounts?
[01:17] <dooglus> dabaR: /etc/fstab ?
[01:17] <dabaR> ya, thanks.
[01:17] <Chris_Tucker> ive just changed sound cards to one with a different chipset... how do i reconfigure to use the new one?
[01:17] <dooglus> "file system table"
[01:18] <mhz_ed> Chris_Tucker, alsaconfig?
[01:18] <n0odl3> mhz_ed: how do you  run that?
[01:18] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc its a WD Caviar 160GB
[01:18] <dooglus> is there any way of seeing 'shockwave' stuff in ubuntu?
[01:18] <Chris_Tucker> mhz_ed: i'll try that
[01:19] <mhz_ed> n0odl3, no idea. Try from a terminal and start typing alsa TAB TAB
[01:19] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: hm. If your BIOS is showing an error message, could be a bad HDD.
[01:20] <n0odl3> what the heck
[01:20] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc perhaps
[01:20] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc think i should RMA it?
[01:20] <dabaR> I can not get gnome-volume-manager to run, it says HAL is not running. And my nautilus takes a minute to load(and thus logging into gnome as well).
[01:20] <n0odl3> alsa gives me something weird
[01:20] <n0odl3> im not sure what it does
[01:20] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: also want to make sure that your SATA cable doesn't have any tight radius turns, it'll kill transfer speeds horribly.
[01:20] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: and could, possible, interfere with connectivity.
[01:21] <thewayofzen> ARTWIZ FONTS: anyone get them to function in blackbox/fluxbox in breezy
[01:21] <thewayofzen> if so mind explaining how?
[01:21] <dabaR>  18:22:25 up 12 days, 23:55,  7 users,  load average: 3.13, 3.33, 3.45
[01:21] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: well, did you install SATA drivers in windows?
[01:21] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc none of them ^^
[01:21] <nalioth> thewayofzen: put your ttf fonts in ~/.fonts
[01:21] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc well i dont entirely remember. this HD has been working for months
[01:21] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  thats it?
[01:21] <thewayofzen> seems easy
[01:21] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to use a sound card?
[01:21] <n0odl3> i mean set one up
[01:22] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc i just took it out, tryed it on GF's pc, forgot she had 32bit i had 64 and brought it hom
[01:22] <nalioth> thewayofzen: easy enough
[01:22] <ThePyromaniac> now it dont work!
[01:22] <moparfan90> does anyone know a distro that is setup very good for a AMD athlon 64 CPU?
[01:22] <ngmlinux_> anyone know how to take care of the route tables in ubuntu/debian?
[01:22] <luite> moparfan90: install the k7 kernel in ubuntu?
[01:22] <dooglus> dabaR: why is your load average so high?
[01:23] <luite> moparfan90: oh wait, you said athlon 64 :)
[01:23] <moparfan90> whats a "k7 kernel" ??
[01:23] <dabaR> cause I am running things maybe, dunno.
[01:23] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: hmm...think you accidentally fried it while moving it around?
[01:23] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc how could it be fried?
[01:23] <luckyaba> ok i am trying to get my nvidia driver working
[01:24] <luckyaba> i have 2 nvidia 6600 gt's sli'd together
[01:24] <dooglus> dabaR: 3 means there are 3 jobs fighting for the CPU.  what are you running that's keeping the CPU so busy?  (check with 'top')
[01:24] <dabaR> my nautilus is misehaving.
[01:24] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc my GF's 3yr old nephew was holding it in the car but he didnt drop it, lol!
[01:24] <dooglus> dabaR: maybe gam_server is naughty?  I've seen it happen before
[01:24] <luite> moparfan90: it's for the 32 bit athlon... I have a dual core ahtlon 64 and the k7-smp kernel runs fine. I don't think running a 64 bit kernel really has an advantage over 32 bit, for desktop use
[01:24] <luckyaba> when i try and get into gdm with the top card it goes black
[01:24] <dabaR> screen, top, init, irssi,Xorg...
[01:24] <moparfan90> its not alot faster?
[01:25] <luckyaba> but i can change the monitor to the second one and it appears but horribly small resolution
[01:25] <GhostFreeman> where is the public-html directory for Apache located at?
[01:25] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to set up a sound card
[01:25] <Chris_Tucker> mhz_ed: alsaconfig: command not found
[01:25] <luite> moparfan90: few percent, at most
[01:25] <luckyaba> and i cant make it bigger
[01:25] <dooglus> dabaR: none of those use the CPU much.  do you see any 'Id'le time in top?
[01:25] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: well, static (but that's probably not it). Did you like pull out a power cable while it was in use, or shake it while it was being used or anything?
[01:25] <n0odl3> yeah i got the same thing mzhed
[01:25] <boxerboy29> does anyone know if anjuta uses gcc to compile?
[01:25] <moparfan90> o
[01:25] <dabaR> of top?
[01:25] <dooglus> dabaR: what does the 3rd line of 'top' show?  the line that begins 'cpu(s)'?
[01:25] <mhz_ed> Chris_Tucker, any alsa... command? Usually, autocompletition works by pressing Tab Tab
[01:26] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc fairly sure i did not do that. if it was a bad HD what stage do you think it would get to in ubuntu install? cause i got to the "Reboot and remove CD stage"
[01:26] <dabaR> 99.3
[01:26] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc it was copy packages and formatting partitions ok
[01:26] <dabaR> %idle, sorry about the enter.
[01:26] <skip> is this the right place to ask novice ubuntu (not novice linux) questions?
[01:26] <dooglus> dabaR: that's the number *before* "id", right?
[01:26] <dabaR> .3 user, .3 system. yes.
[01:26] <poningru> Skid: yes
[01:26] <dooglus> and a load average of 3?
[01:26] <flugh> gah, i gotta put ubuntu on the server at work when breezy 'goes gold'. i've done more easy management in last 20 minutes, than all day with that fedora box
[01:27] <dabaR> ya, still there.
[01:27] <skip> ok...  using the default graphical tools how do I set up sshd?
[01:27] <n0odl3> i got two also commands mhzed
[01:27] <skip> help
[01:27] <zigg> hello, I'm a noob is anyone up to explaining how to recompile the kernel more specifically to my hardware?
[01:27] <dooglus> I guess I don't know what "load average" means then...  I thought if a box had any idle time then the load average would be
[01:27] <dooglus> ... would be < 1
[01:27] <amalthea> hello people, i have a (simple?) question
[01:27] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: well if the HDD was shot you'd have a very slim chance of getting that far; reading/writing would be crapped. hmm...have you tried changing the cable? (you said you changed the slot it was plugged into on the mobo right? what mobo you have anyways?)
[01:27] <rob^> skip, just install it using synaptic, then enable it using services
[01:28] <Chris_Tucker> mhz_ed alsactl , alsamixer
[01:28] <matsur> Hi all, what's the best way to copy an ubuntu installation from one HD to another? I tried dd'ing it over and then editing fstab on the copy but no dice :(
[01:28] <n0odl3> which one do i sue?
[01:28] <n0odl3> which alsa?
[01:28] <amalthea> how do i move an entire user from one ubuntu system to another one?
[01:28] <matsur> i get a pivot_root error w/ that method
[01:28] <rob^> skip, if you want to configure it you will have to go to the /etc text files
[01:28] <flugh> matsur: i'd use 'tar' for that
[01:28] <zrothe> dooglas why when I search using Synaptic it only shows 2.6-10
[01:28] <dabaR> It means how many processes were run in the last minute, 5, and 15.
[01:28] <blaat2> does anybody know how to resolve this error in azureus: Error: Operation not permitted, setLength fails.
[01:28] <feugan3333> Hi all. I struggling with cups. I'm really not sure what I did to break it but suddenly "lpr mytextfile" does nothing. Does cupsd keep a log cause there is nothing in the system log (/var/log/messages).
[01:28] <dabaR> or something like that.
[01:28] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc i got a fresh and friendly cable from my mobo packagine and that still didnt work. im on a ASUS A8N-SLI Premier
[01:28] <zigg> hello? d
[01:28] <dooglus> dabaR: this explains it - I'm about to read it... http://www.luv.asn.au/overheads/NJG_LUV_2002/luvSlides.html :)
[01:29] <matsur> flugh: tar everything?
[01:29] <boxerboy29> does anyone in here use anjuta ide?
[01:29] <dooglus> dabaR: I thought it was the average number of processes in the queue to get on the CPU at any particular time.  but I'll see...
[01:29] <dabaR> I am not going to, I dont think it is related to my HAL issue.
[01:29] <skip> thanks.  that's not so bad. ;-)  I sorta thought the gui craze had taken over everything and i just missed something in one of the menus...
[01:29] <luckyaba> i cant get my resolution aboe 640 x 480.. help?
[01:29] <dabaR> dooglus: something like that, yaya.
[01:29] <zigg> hello, noob and kernel recompile help?
[01:29] <zigg> do I have voice?
[01:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell luckyaba about fixres
[01:29] <nalioth> zigg: surely
[01:29] <flugh> matmatsur: you could make a big ol' tarball of your current system, then extract it on the new system. dirty, but i prefer that to 'dd' if things don't match up just right (harddrive-wise)
[01:29] <zigg> thanks
[01:30] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: i guess you could try either flashing the BIOS or reinstalling windows and making sure you install the SATA drivers; but that still wouldn't explain it not coming up in ubuntu...
[01:30] <mhz_ed> Chris_Tucker, did you try alsactl?
[01:30] <nalioth> zigg: to get someone to talk to you, you have to ask a question or provide an answer
[01:30] <flugh> matsur: personally, i'd just install clean on the new hard drive, have a tarball of my /home, parts of /etc, and maybe /var ready to drop in
[01:30] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: isn't that like a brand new board to the market?
[01:30] <zigg> I did ask a question about first time linux kernel recompiling
[01:30] <BurgerMann> How do I encrypt a password so it would fit the 'useradd ... -p encrypted_pass' ?
[01:30] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc its within a few months yes
[01:31] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc i have had my whole system FINE for ages
[01:31] <nalioth> zigg: if nobody knows the answer, there will be no response ;(
[01:31] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc its just now i bring HD back it not work. how do i flash my bios?
[01:31] <zrothe> dooglus: I installed linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-10_all.deb, but im still having probs
[01:31] <zigg> o ok :)
[01:31] <zigg> new to irc obviously
[01:31] <hwaara> How do I configure xchat to highlight everything my friend says here?
[01:31] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to set up a sound card?
[01:31] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc also, i never get as far as ubuntu, i dont think OS is anything to do with it
[01:31] <matsur> flugh: thanks, I'll try that next. But any idea on how to solve the pivot_root error?
[01:32] <boxerboy29> hwaara: if your name is said it will show up red normally
[01:32] <collind> hi, i have a sony vaio laptop and am running ubuntu on it - it seems i don't have 3d acceleration enabled - glxgears runs for about 3 seconds and then stops, and glxinfo shows OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect - could somebody help me get this fixed please?
[01:32] <Chris_Tucker> mhz_ed yes, it asked for a command to be included in the line
[01:32] <flugh> matsur: sorry, i didn't see that part of your issue. serves me right for butting in half-way through :)
[01:32] <rob^> collind, install 3d drivers
[01:32] <hwaara> boxerboy29, yes, but I also want my friend's chat to be red for me!
[01:32] <Chris_Tucker> mhz_ed: right now im trying another card (i have 4, 2 identical) instaed
[01:32] <BurgerMann> I'll try again :S How do I encrypt a password so it would fit the 'useradd ... -p encrypted_pass' ?
[01:32] <matsur> flugh: yeah, that's the only error  get w/ the dd'ed HD
[01:32] <bytefoo> ubotu, tell collind about ati
[01:32] <boxerboy29> i dont think there is a way unless you name is said
[01:33] <dabaR> I think ther eis.
[01:33] <hwaara> dabaR, enlighten me!
[01:33] <dooglus> dabaR: what does 'lshal' show you?
[01:33] <collind> ok, going to give it a try, thanks for the links
[01:34] <rob^> !3d
[01:34] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, rob^
[01:34] <rob^> grr
[01:34] <ThePyromaniac> guys, t0rc is a GENIOUS
[01:35] <mhz_ed> Chris_Tucker, sorry I am no help. never needed to try another sound card :)
[01:35] <[t0rc] > hwaara: go into preferences, then Chatting > General and then extra words to highlight on, try typing in ur friends nick.
[01:35] <nauseaboy> whoo breezy soon
[01:35] <ThePyromaniac> if you ever get the message "No valide device" when you install a SATA HD, make sure you no plug it in raid, and make sure plug is not upside down
[01:35] <collind> hm, i was reading through that - it says the driver currently supports radeon 8500 and later - this is a rage mobility p/m AGP 2x
[01:35] <collind> am i out of luck?
[01:35] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: fix it?
[01:35] <ThePyromaniac> that will definatly help...!
[01:35] <hwaara> [t0rc] , we already tried. I typed in his name but it doesn't react. maybe it doesn't react on user names but only the actual text
[01:35] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc i dont know, but it damn well should!
[01:36] <ThePyromaniac> cant belive how damn stupid that was of me
[01:36] <ThePyromaniac> cya soon i hope :D
[01:36] <Tb0n3> hi
[01:36] <ThePyromaniac> thanks man
[01:36] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: well, it should. if you want to use ur RAID slots, enable it in the BIOS.
[01:36] <luckyaba> anyone know about dual head setup?
[01:36] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: no problem. :)
[01:36] <amalthea> test
[01:36] <Tb0n3> I'm here using 5.04, and I'm new, so I can't figure out how to mount my hard drives... it made it easier in 5.10 live
[01:37] <[t0rc] > !fstab
[01:37] <ubotu> [t0rc] : I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:37] <dabaR> dooglus: brb.
[01:38] <dooglus> k
[01:38] <[t0rc] > luckyaba: i do. i know that I haven't gotten it to work with ATI drivers because it will not save the Control panel settings. :P all it does it clone for me. Although, I've heard that using xinerama and editing the xorg files it can be done,
[01:38] <shutson_> Question: What is the command to mount a ext3 filesystem on a seperate HD so that I can copy backups to it?
[01:38] <feugan3333> mout?
[01:38] <feugan3333> mount
[01:38] <pepsi> hi
[01:38] <collind> darn, basically just SOL for older than 8500 - anybody know of any workarounds or anything?
[01:39] <dabaR> dooglus: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2894
[01:39] <dabaR> as sudo, or not as sudo, same result.
[01:39] <shutson_> I need to be able to write and read it
[01:39] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: the drive would probably work in your RAID slots, but unless you're using raid, i'd just put it in the normal SATA slot. If you for some reason wanted to use the RAID slot, make sure you find RAID and enable it in your BIOS settings. They're usually off by default and that would explain it. So either way it should work and fix you rissue.
[01:39] <dandel> does anyone here know why i can't get msn messenger to run under ubuntu?
[01:39] <dooglus> dabaR: does "pgrep hald" show anything
[01:39] <dabaR> cause you should use amsn or gaim.
[01:39] <[t0rc] > dandel: just use GAIM or Kopete.
[01:39] <dandel> i'm usin the gaim messenger, but it doesn't let me :|
[01:40] <dabaR> dooglus ya, it does, I have started it by sudo hald, and by sudo hald --daemon=yes.
[01:40] <pepsi> every time i boot, i have to do `setserial /dev/foo baud_base 1152000 divisor 4` for ttyS14, 15, 44, and 45.. is there a way to make those serial devices be recognized as ttyS2 to ttyS5? and set the parameters on them?
[01:40] <feugan3333> shutson: man mount
[01:40] <dabaR> dandel: doesn't let you what?
[01:40] <shutson_> ty
[01:40] <dooglus> dabaR: did that show you anything useful?
[01:41] <dooglus> dabaR: if not, try   sudo /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes
[01:41] <dabaR> well, the process number, as it should likely.
[01:41] <dooglus> dabaR: that'll show you lots of output probably - maybe some of it telling you what's wrong?
[01:41] <dabaR> Oh, you mean starting it as daemon? ya, I did verbose, and it said everything fine.
[01:41] <dabaR> not lots at all.
[01:41] <dabaR> Ill show you.
[01:41] <dooglus> dabaR: I said "--daemon=no" in my line...
[01:42] <DukGalNamu> hehe, how do i play cds again?
[01:42] <feugan3333> dandel: apt-cache search msn
[01:42] <dooglus> dabaR: otherwise you won't see the verbose output
[01:42] <st1lgar> lol :)) watch alternative.nu with gxine for a new definition of remote desktop !
[01:42] <dandel> i'm workin on it
[01:43] <DukGalNamu> anyone?
[01:43] <DukGalNamu> please?
[01:43] <dabaR> dooglus: I did get an error with this no, no error with yes for daemon. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2896
[01:43] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: CD player
[01:43] <st1lgar> hmm, it's a blue screen now, but before the multiple reboots of an win2000 system were broadcasted :)
[01:44] <[t0rc] > DukGalNamu: yeah. the CD player.
[01:44] <dabaR> dooglus: verbose is the long output, daemon is daemon, or not.
[01:44] <[t0rc] > DukGalNamu: plays cds.
[01:44] <dabaR> I would think.
[01:44] <dooglus> dabaR: I think you'll need to kill the running hald before starting another one.  "sudo pkill hald"
[01:45] <dandel> eww ubuntu won't install yahoo messenger
[01:45] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: run "CD Player" under multimedia. I'm not running GNOME so I can't tell you exactly what to click.
[01:45] <dooglus> dandel: you can use 'gaim' to connect to the yahoo messenger network
[01:45] <dandel> i know
[01:45] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: i am not running gnome either so i woudln't know what to do...
[01:46] <dabaR> dooglus: off course, I did.
[01:46] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: What you running then?
[01:46] <ormandj> when inserting the wow dvd to install via cedega, ubuntu is mounting the macintosh partition and i don't see the windows partition, how can i fix this? do i have to manually mount it?
[01:46] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: fluxbox
[01:46] <GhostFreeman> what is the command to move directories?
[01:46] <ormandj> mv
[01:46] <dabaR> dooglus: I bet a reboot will fix it. Too bad to kill such a long uptime.
[01:46] <[t0rc] > ormandj: there's a fstab script that allows you to mount windows ntfs drives
[01:47] <[t0rc] > !ntfs
[01:47] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[01:47] <dabaR> I think Im gonna talk to my local linux friend about it first, cause I dont care that much about hald.
[01:47] <[t0rc] > !tell ormandj about ntfs
[01:47] <dooglus> dabaR: this is hoary, right?
[01:47] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: you can still run gnome-cd from the terminal.
[01:47] <ormandj> [t0rc] , i don't want to mount a windows drive, i don't have one.... :) i just want to have the dvd mounted, but the windows partition on it, not the mac (it's a hybrid dvd)
[01:47] <dandel> dooglus, it's just a simple error... 3 things missing somewhow... i used the debian package stuff... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2897
[01:47] <mae> I like the old lock-screen prompt better than the new one :
[01:47] <mae> \
[01:47] <Chris_Tucker> is there a hardware detection wizard like the one in the installer?
[01:48] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: true, actually i just downloaded dcd, but it doesn't seem to work, gives me can't open /dev/cdrom
[01:48] <dooglus> dandel: it's a woody package, so I don't think it will work with breezy anyway?
[01:48] <[t0rc] > ormandj: hmm...perhaps you shold explain this a little more. you've a windows partition on a dvd?
[01:48] <dabaR> dooglus: ya, it is.
[01:48] <dooglus> dabaR: so you'll be rebooting for breezy soon anyway?
[01:48] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: my guess would be because there is no /dev/cdrom
[01:49] <ormandj> [t0rc] , the dvd is a hybrid. it has a filesystem for macs, and a filesystem for windows machines. you can use the dvd to install wow on a macintosh, or also a windows machine
[01:49] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: do "ls -l /dev/cdrom"
[01:49] <ormandj> right now ubuntu is (for whatever reason) mounting the mac filesystem
[01:49] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: to make sure
[01:49] <ormandj> i need it to mount the windows filesystem
[01:49] <dooglus> dandel: did you try installing the missing packages?
[01:49] <dandel> uhh
[01:49] <[t0rc] > OooOoooooooooOoooOoooooOooooooo
[01:49] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: nope, not there
[01:49] <dabaR> dooglus: you really have to reboot to get breezy? meek:)), anyhow, no, I think I will wait a week, so that bugs get polished out.
[01:49] <[t0rc] > ormandj: well i understand but i've not a solution for you.
[01:49] <dandel> i don't know.... not real sure
[01:50] <dandel> yuck... xchat on linux is buggered... keeps erroring on how text is rendered :(
[01:50] <ormandj> [4441318.651000]  ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 1
[01:50] <ormandj> [4441318.695000]  ISOFS: changing to secondary root
[01:50] <kbrooks> dabaR: yes you have to reboot
[01:50] <dooglus> dabaR: breezy runs a different kernel...  you don't have to reboot to run breezy, but you do if you want to run breezy's kernel...
[01:50] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: well if it wants it to be there then put it there :-) using ln
[01:51] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: so ln /cdrom /dev/cdrom?
[01:51] <TvM> hi! i installed ubuntu in my laptop hp dv4000 and im geting these anoying msg
[01:51] <TvM> Incompatible medium installed -- (asc=0x30, ascq=0x00)
[01:51] <TvM> every 2 s
[01:51] <dooglus> dandel: "sudo apt-get install libgdk-pixbuf2 libglib1.2 libgtk1.2 libssl0.9.6"
[01:51] <tyler_durden> how can i install a certain nvidia driver set?
[01:51] <dooglus> dandel: I've no idea if those package names will be available, but it's worth a go
[01:51] <dandel> dooglas, i'll give that a try
[01:52] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: wait a bit, why is your cdrom not at /dev/cdrom?
[01:52] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: maybe casue i have two?
[01:52] <dandel> dooglus... how do i do a system update... via command?
[01:53] <dandel> i need to get gcc installed and all the developer tools
[01:53] <dooglus> dandel: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[01:53] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: do "ls -ld /dev/cdrom*"
[01:53] <dooglus> dandel: oh,i see.  to get gcc etc you "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[01:53] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: to see the names of your cdrom
[01:53] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: andrew@AndrewLX:~ $ ls -ld /dev/cdrom*
[01:53] <DukGalNamu> ls: /dev/cdrom*: No such file or directory
[01:54] <TvM> who knows who to fix these msg ?Incompatible medium installed -- (asc=0x30, ascq=0x00)
[01:54] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: but you can browse cds?
[01:55] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: yeah
[01:56] <tyler_durden> hey is gdesklets down?
[01:56] <tyler_durden> grr i wanna download it :(
[01:57] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: well, you could insert a cd and then run mount to get the name of the device. But all this trickery should not be necessary, did you try gnome-cd?
[01:57] <thefoot> How is Wine at emulating COM ports in Ubuntu
[01:57] <Chris_Tucker> is there a hardware detection wizard like the one in the installer?
[01:57] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: i don't want to start a gnome app
[01:58] <dabaR> hopsing: whats up?
[01:58] <Tb0n3> question:I've installed 5.04 and my ntfs drives don't show up under computer, what would I do to mount them?
[01:58] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: have you looked at the man page for dcd, maybe there is an option to specify which device to use as a cdrom.
[01:59] <hopsing> Whats up ? Just standing by .
[01:59] <dabaR> hopsing: We live in the same city.
[01:59] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: not yet, i will, but i have to go now, thanks for the help though
[01:59] <hopsing> oh yeh. mAybe a bit north of u .
[02:00] <TomFool> hi room
[02:00] <dabaR> how do you know? Are you in wpg, or outside the city? and how old are you?
[02:00] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: sure
[02:00] <[t0rc] > !tell Tb0n3 about ntfs
[02:01] <hopsing> north of brandon . the ips are a giveaway. Age ?? really old :-)
[02:01] <dabaR> oki.
[02:01] <Chris_Tucker> is there a hardware detection wizard like the one in the installer?
[02:01] <kbrooks> Can someone try apt-get install jython and verify that it does install python 2.1?
[02:02] <TomFool> I have a question about running from the LiveCD. Can I mount my existing HD partition(s)? I'm relatively new to Linux, so am not sure if I need to create a "real" directory to use as a mount point.
[02:03] <TomFool> On a totally unrelated thought - amalthea, you have chosen a nick from one of my favorite books, and now I'll have to re-read it :)
[02:03] <yuacht> TomFool, yes you can mount them
[02:03] <[t0rc] > !tell TomFool about ntfs
[02:03] <zrothe> It seems like anything I try to install using apt-get install isn't found. Where can I find more repositories?
[02:03] <feugan3333> Tb0n3: Ubuntu does not automatically mount them, you can mount them using mount. But there is also a package that does it for you I just don't remember its name
[02:03] <cyborgcey> when I try to play music  I get the message dev/dsp file not there what do I need to do and where do I find the file
[02:03] <benkong2> I was in the final stages of an install. 1st loginto breezy and was letting updatemanager do its thing...power failure...now errors
[02:04] <Pshivers> sitting on XP right now and can't remember how to get to that list where you see all available programs, could someone guide me?
[02:04] <zrothe> !repositories
[02:04] <TomFool> I should have said, can I mount my ext3 partitions ... sorry ... I'm trying to recover from an upgrade from Hoary to Breezy that didn't quite go right
[02:04] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[02:04] <zrothe> :/
[02:04] <benkong2> update-manager cannot get a lock thinks apt-get or aptitude is running
[02:04] <zrothe> yay
[02:04] <nalioth> Pshivers: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:04] <hopsing> Info!! I see a lot of questions that have really super answers on Ubuntu forums. A search for your problems will give you a lot super help.
[02:05] <benkong2> also /var/cache/apt/archives/libfontconfig1_2.3.2-1ubuntu4 fontconfig contains an empty file name
[02:05] <benkong2> What can I do?
[02:06] <Pshivers> nalioth, yeh but isn't there a menu in Ubuntu too? helping a mate
[02:06] <thefoot> How is Wine at emulating COM ports in Ubuntu
[02:06] <johhny> thefoot: Why dont you try and see if it works
[02:07] <burden> Im new to linux but looking to swtich, I cannot figure out how to actually "connect" to the internet ive already went through with pppconfig and done everything, anyone mind helping me out?
[02:07] <TvM> who knows who to fix these msg ?Incompatible medium installed -- (asc=0x30, ascq=0x00)
[02:07] <Chris_Tucker> damn... my isa card slots arent working or these two sound cards are dead
[02:07] <nickrud> burden, what kind of modem card do you have?
[02:08] <nalioth> Pshivers: "apt-cache search <pkgname or string>"
[02:08] <burden> Ubuntu says: Gateway Red Owl, Conexant as its vendor, ive done echo atdt555555 >/dev/modem and i hear a click on the phone
[02:09] <sambagirl> is it safe to install games and applications for KDE in ubuntu? i did this the othrer time and i had to re-install ubuntu.
[02:09] <sambagirl> isuspecti it has todowith that war betweeng gnome and kde.
[02:09] <nalioth> sambagirl: use kynaptic
[02:09] <sambagirl> syaptic?
[02:09] <sambagirl> or kyaptic?
[02:10] <nalioth> sambagirl: use what you like. kynaptic synaptic apt-get aptitude adept or <ugh> kpackage
[02:10] <luckyaba> im having trouble with my repositories list... anyone know of a new one?
[02:11] <anethema> sambagirl, i do it all the time
[02:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell luckyaba about sources
[02:12] <johhny> sambagirl: Yeah that is safe
[02:12] <anethema> i run kde apps on gnome by having kde libs installed
[02:12] <anethema> works peachy usually
[02:12] <seife> Is there any way i can get my scanner working?
[02:12] <gmjonker> Hi all - Question: is writing to NTFS safe these days?
[02:13] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys, i got my HD working :D
[02:13] <TomFool> Let me restate. I'm running Hoary LiveCD. I have ext3 and vfat partitions on my HD which I would like to mount so that I can backup data from the ext3 to the vfat. When I've backed up I want to install Breezy RC from a CD. This is all so that I can fix an apt-get upgrade to Breezy that went sour on me. I should have backed up *first* -- I know. My question is: how to mount the partitions while running from the LiveCD? I assume I need
[02:13] <TomFool> to create a directory to use as a mount point - and have no access to the HD to create the directory - so what do I do to create the mount point?
[02:13] <TvM> what package i have to install to run make...make install...
[02:13] <TvM> i guess i dont have gcc packages
[02:14] <nalioth> TvM: "build-essential"
[02:14] <gmjonker> luckyaba: how about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[02:14] <ThePyromaniac> i was just wondering, in setup you know it asks for the screen resolution sizes? thought id try and give it a higher resolution (the one above 1024x768) and now it has a black border around it. how can i change it to normal res? System -> Screen Resoltion does not work
[02:14] <feugan3333> TomFool: You create a directory under /mnt for example.
[02:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ThePyromaniac about fixres
[02:14] <TvM> thx nalioth
[02:14] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[02:14] <luckyaba> thank you
[02:14] <nickrud> burden, sorry for the wait, I had to refamiliarize myself with pppconfig (I lived there for years, but as I get older, I find I need to check myself)
[02:15] <TvM> nalioth do u know who to solve these?Incompatible medium installed -- (asc=0x30, ascq=0x00)
[02:15] <nickrud> burden, did pppconfig find your modem automagically?
[02:15] <TvM> every 2 s i get that msg
[02:15] <nalioth> TvM: not offhand, no
[02:16] <TomFool> feugan3333 - it's that simple? I mean, it's not a "real" directory ...
[02:16] <TomFool> feugan3333 - n/m; just tried it. It *is* that simple.
[02:16] <TomFool> cool
[02:16] <luckyaba> should i need my disk when install mplayer?
[02:16] <luckyaba> the ubuntu disc that is
[02:16] <thewayofzen> question:  upgrade to breezy.  went to run azureus and it hangs at the spash screen.  removed it with apt-get and found its not in the repos.   downloaded the tar.bz2 from sourceforge and unzipped it to /home/username/programs and when i try to run it i get a rush of scroll of this :  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2899
[02:16] <burden> no, but i knew it was on ttyS2
[02:17] <svizzero> If I install ubuntu from the dvd does it install more packages than the cd version?
[02:17] <gmjonker> luckyaba: not if you install if from the repositories
[02:17] <luckyaba> gmjonker: why is it asking me for the disk then?
[02:17] <nalioth> thewayofzen: uninstall all that gnu java mess
[02:17] <nalioth> thewayofzen: get this instead
[02:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thewayofzen about javadeb
[02:18] <svizzero> If I install ubuntu from the dvd does it install more packages than the cd version?
[02:18] <gmjonker> luckyaba: dont know, i installed mplayer today and it didnt ask me for the disk. maybe you should fix your repository list first.
[02:18] <luckyaba> gmjonker: i thought i did...
[02:18] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  will 386 debs work with 686 kernel ok?
[02:18] <tyler_durden> hey what port can i assign azureus to work?
[02:18] <tyler_durden> none of which i try actually work
[02:18] <gmjonker> luckyaba: does apt-get update go alright?
[02:18] <nalioth> svizzero: no. there is a live and install cdimage on the dvd
[02:18] <mhz_ed> one PCMCIA question. I managed to netboot (tftp) a laptop. Now it asks about mirrors. Any way it accepts to get all needed from PCMCIA CD drive?
[02:18] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  and im hoping apt-get remove java will do the job to get rid of it
[02:19] <magoo> Morning all, wondering if anybody could possibly answer me a question regarding Ubuntu as I'm new to Linux?
[02:19] <mhz_ed> magio, shoot
[02:19] <mhz_ed> magoo, shoot
[02:19] <nalioth> thewayofzen: yes 386 debs are fine
[02:19] <magoo> Is there a way to format a hd to FAT32 from within Ubuntu?
[02:19] <nalioth> thewayofzen: use synaptic and search for "java" in "packange names and contents"
[02:20] <anethema> magoo, yeah
[02:20] <tyler_durden> none of which i try actually work
[02:20] <tyler_durden> hey what port can i assign azureus to work?
[02:20] <luckyaba> it said something about dupluicate something or other
[02:20] <anethema> mkfs.msdos <device>
[02:20] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone!
[02:21] <luckyaba> gmjonker: yeah i just did it and it came back fine
[02:21] <magoo> k, cheers Anethema, I'll look into it :)
[02:22] <gmjonker> luckyaba: maybe you need to use the universe and multiverse repositories as well
[02:22] <gmjonker> dont know, just guessing
[02:22] <quux> running reiserfs - is there a way to set a quota on a directory? not groups or users quota ... just 'directory /foo should never exceed xx gigabytes'
[02:22] <gmjonker> Does anyone know if writing to NTFS is safe these days?
[02:23] <nalioth> gmjonker: only from windows
[02:23] <feugan3333> gmjonker: not that I know of.
[02:23] <gmjonker> ok... i won't then. thanks.
[02:24] <luckyaba> gmjonker: k im updating a new list right now...
[02:24] <thewayofzen> this is classic i need java to run azureus
[02:24] <thewayofzen> and i need azureus to download that java link
[02:24] <thewayofzen> CLASSIC
[02:24] <kbrooks> lol
[02:24] <nalioth> thewayofzen: no no. there are better bittorrent clients than azureus
[02:24] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  azureus is the one im used to.. thats the only reason i had java installed
[02:25] <thewayofzen> and its missing from the breezy repos
[02:25] <jvai> **
[02:25] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  what do u recommend then?
[02:25] <mazatl> Is there a way to revert from gcc 4.0 to gcc 3.4.4
[02:25] <nalioth> thewayofzen: azureus imho is not the best. i use bittornado
[02:25] <antix> any hints on getting ubuntu to recognize my second networking card? when I type "ifconfig eth1" I get "Device not found".. and both network cards work in the machine, but not at the same time?
[02:25] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  ill try it then
[02:25] <feugan3333> thewayofzen: download java from the sun site.
[02:25] <bytefoo> try uTorrent
[02:25] <bytefoo> its small and lightweight! :D
[02:25] <mhz_ed> one PCMCIA question. I managed to netboot (tftp) a laptop. Now it asks about mirrors. Any way it accepts to get all needed from PCMCIA CD drive?
[02:26] <nalioth> mazatl: in your terminal type "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" before you compile something requiring it
[02:26] <nalioth> bytefoo: utorrent is for windows?
[02:27] <bytefoo> oops
[02:27] <bytefoo> i thoguht they made a linux version too :(
[02:27] <luckyaba> gmjonker: k i got it... i had the network ones uncommented.. commented them and it work fine now
[02:27] <bytefoo> its really small footprint though :/
[02:27] <feugan3333> lol
[02:27] <gmjonker> luckyaba: that's a good idea anyway :)
[02:27] <Weems> how can I merge my free space into my root partition on my hard drive?
[02:27] <martincho> Hi, I new with ubuntu
[02:27] <martincho> How can I compile with gcc?
[02:28] <jalvarezrom> thewayofzen, Breezy have a java installed (not propietary)
[02:28] <martincho> I can't found it
[02:28] <nalioth> martincho: first you need to install "build-essential"
[02:28] <thewayofzen> jalvarezrom,  i had java installed. it was azureus that woudlnt work
[02:28] <kbrooks> i want the sun java jre
[02:28] <thewayofzen> i removed it and went to reinstall and its gone
[02:28] <tuxedo_kamen> I need some help... I wanted to install the laste version, but I don't have a cd recorder, how can I do it?
[02:28] <martincho> nalioth,  when I install ubuntu for first time?
[02:28] <thewayofzen> so i installed bittorrnado on nalioth's recommendation and have no idea how to use it
[02:29] <kbrooks> thewayofzen: its trivial.
[02:29] <nalioth> thewayofzen: open a terminal and type btdownloadgui or btdownloadgui.py
[02:29] <kbrooks> use btdownloadgui.py
[02:29] <nalioth> martincho: build-essential has your gcc and other compiling tools in it
[02:29] <martincho> ah
[02:29] <martincho> ok
[02:29] <martincho> thanks
[02:29] <luckyaba> gmjonker: thanks for the help
[02:29] <ormandj> thewayofzen, you could just install the sun jdk or something :) there is a nice howto make a deb with it etc, even a package that does all the world for you
[02:30] <flatburden> Im new to linux but looking to swtich, I cannot figure out how to actually "connect" to the internet ive already went through with pppconfig and done everything, anyone mind helping me out?
[02:30] <ormandj> gjc is slower and more broken than sin
[02:30] <kbrooks> !java
[02:30] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[02:30] <thewayofzen> .py doesnt work
[02:30] <nalioth> kbrooks: !javadeb
[02:30] <ormandj> thewayofzen, you need python to run .py files
[02:30] <nalioth> ormandj: it is installed as a dependency of bittornado
[02:30] <thewayofzen> python is already the newest version
[02:31] <ormandj> nalioth: i see.
[02:31] <kbrooks> dont use blackdown ;)
[02:31] <kbrooks> !javadeb
[02:31] <ubotu> methinks javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[02:31] <thewayofzen> its installed already
[02:31] <ormandj> thewayofzen: then run python blahblah.py
[02:31] <jalvarezrom> I use Azureus in Breezy and work with java-common. Don't need install Sun java
[02:31] <ormandj> jalvarezrom, it's fast enough to be usable?
[02:31] <thewayofzen> python: can't open file 'btdownloadgui.py': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[02:31] <ormandj> thewayofzen, uh, ls *.py
[02:31] <funkyHat_> can i force apt to install a package with unresolved dependencies?
[02:31] <ormandj> you sure you put the files in that directory? :P
[02:32] <ormandj> funky -f
[02:32] <jalvarezrom> ormandj, I use it little
[02:32] <ormandj> man apt-get
[02:32] <ormandj> or use dpkg
[02:32] <funkyHat_> ormandj, -f doesn't work, i was hoping not to have to use dpkg :P
[02:32] <flatburden> :/
[02:33] <tyler_durden> whats a good webbrowser? firefox sucks on linux
[02:33] <ormandj> funkyHat, well you're asking it to install something in a non-traditional method which will more than likely cause a lot of problems :P
[02:33] <ormandj> i don't blame it :P
[02:33] <ormandj> tyler_durden, firefox works great for me, faster than windows
[02:33] <tyler_durden> not for me, its sluggish on my ubuntu
[02:33] <tyler_durden> very choppy
[02:33] <bytefoo> o_O
[02:33] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: RAM
[02:33] <ormandj> tyler_durden, rendering issues? what video card?
[02:33] <bytefoo> epiphany?
[02:33] <othernoob> tyler_durden: Opera
[02:33] <tyler_durden> i got 768
[02:33] <ormandj> or ram :)
[02:33] <tyler_durden> fx 5500
[02:33] <nalioth> tyler_durden: galeon, kazehakase, epiphany, dillo, konqueror, and on and on
[02:33] <ormandj> probably video card stuff. did you install nvidia drivers?
[02:33] <bytefoo> :D
[02:34] <tyler_durden> yes
[02:34] <jalvarezrom> Is there a translator or proyect to translate like Babylon for linux ?
[02:34] <bobp> how do I import from yahoo address list to evolution?
[02:34] <thewayofzen> ok
[02:34] <thewayofzen> i figured out how to get bittornado to work
[02:34] <thewayofzen> do i need to open any ports
[02:34] <cowbud> is there a way to stop nautilus from complaining if the .extension and the mime type do not match. For example .m3u is not a .m3u file but a text file and nautilus refuses to do the default action unless I use the menus..
[02:35] <Xanadu> hello all
[02:35] <Jeromee> hi
[02:35] <Xanadu> very quiet here tonight
[02:36] <tyler_durden> how do i put a new shortcut in the application menu?
[02:36] <Jeromee> seems like it yeah
[02:36] <Jeromee> lol.
[02:36] <Jeromee> speak of the devil ;)
[02:36] <Xanadu> lol
[02:36] <Xanadu> anyone know when breezy final is coming out?
[02:36] <luckyaba> gmjonker: i just installed mplayer and now i have like 400  programs for updatinjg?
[02:36] <Jeromee> october 13th
[02:36] <kbrooks> Xanadu: 13th
[02:36] <luckyaba> gmjonker: is that normal... lol?
[02:36] <Xanadu> kewl - that official date yet?
[02:37] <kbrooks> Xanadu: yes
[02:37] <Jeromee> Heres the real question, if I were to install breezy now, would i be able to update to the Final Release?
[02:37] <jvai> hey uall, how do i change my text color as it appears in the chat box?
[02:37] <ormandj> Xanadu, it's on the website
[02:37] <ormandj> so i'd say yes
[02:37] <FireCat> Does anyone know where you can get saslauthd for Breezy, or what package it might reside in?
[02:38] <Xanadu> FireCat: do you mean sslauthd?
[02:38] <ormandj> firecat: cyrus?
[02:38] <bobp> how do I import from yahoo address list to evolution? -- worked fine a year ago, but my bad -- forgot and can't find it in docs
[02:39] <ormandj> FireCat, assuming you're attempting to setup SMTP auth?
[02:39] <NightBird> hey, how do I renew the ip address?
[02:39] <FireCat> No, openldap
[02:39] <flatburden> I cannot figure out how to actually "connect" to the internet ive already went through with pppconfig and done everything, anyone mind helping me out?
[02:39] <ormandj> FireCat, well, ldap sucks or i'm just dumb :P let me pmsg, i'll help you out
[02:40] <tuxedo_kamen> I need some help... I wanted to install the laste version, but I don't have a cd recorder, how can I do it???
[02:40] <Xanadu> NightBird: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[02:40] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: got a network handy?
[02:41] <NightBird> hm.... odd...
[02:41] <n0odl3> how do i set up a sound card
[02:41] <n0odl3> ?
[02:42] <Xanadu> N0odl3: what sound card?
[02:42] <tyler_durden> whats the command to uninstall using apt-get?
[02:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tyler_durden about smeg
[02:42] <mazatl> alsaconf ?
[02:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tyler_durden about apt-get
[02:42] <jalvarezrom> flatburden, do you have router or modem?
[02:42] <flatburden> :( maybe tommorow
[02:42] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, kinda...
[02:42] <n0odl3> Xanadu: its a soundblaster
[02:42] <tyler_durden> haha nalioth
[02:42] <tyler_durden> thanks
[02:42] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: ubuntu is designed to keep itself updated
[02:42] <Xanadu> tyler_durden: apt-get remove programname
[02:43] <tyler_durden> oh remove! i tried uninstall and it didnt work
[02:43] <tyler_durden> okie
[02:43] <Xanadu> n0odl3: it should pick it up automatically
[02:43] <n0odl3> i cant get any sound
[02:43] <flatburden> modem
[02:43] <amalthea> what irc command do i use to see when a specific nick was on the channel last?
[02:43] <tuxedo_kamen> yeah, but I have warty and I wanted to install the new one, but I seem to have to download it from a portuguese website, since in my country we have an international download limit! :|
[02:43] <n0odl3> Xanadu: i still cant get sound
[02:43] <luckyaba> i have a list of like 150 packages i CAN NOT update
[02:44] <mazatl> amalthea, use tab
[02:44] <mazatl> type the first few letters, then hit tab
[02:44] <jalvarezrom> I don't know how to with modem I have router and ethernet card installed
[02:44] <Xanadu> n0odl3: Click System -> Preferences -> Sound
[02:44] <n0odl3> ok
[02:44] <luckyaba> wh yis that?
[02:44] <Xanadu> n0odl3: check that your soundblaster is selected as the sound card
[02:44] <mazatl> ohh....... maybe /whowas ?
[02:44] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: then you are out of luck either way. getting an iso image is just as much as using apt-get
[02:44] <mazatl> ./whowas <nick>
[02:45] <funkyHat_> ok, how can i create a psuedo package to fix the problems we're having with libqtc102-mt?
[02:45] <n0odl3> how do i check that?
[02:45] <n0odl3> all there is is just a bunch of select sound stuff
[02:45] <Xanadu> n0odl3: there's a drop-down with your sound cards listed
[02:45] <funkyHat_> i just need it to be empty and depend on libqt3-mt
[02:45] <n0odl3> which tab?
[02:45] <amalthea> mazatl: thanks
[02:45] <Xanadu> n0odl3: General - Default sound card
[02:46] <tyler_durden> how do i remove a program that i installed using a launcher? ati drivers for example
[02:46] <funkyHat_> skype being 'broken' is stopping me from upgrading >:(
[02:46] <n0odl3> im in that tab but theres nothing there
[02:46] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, but if I download an image can I install all the new content from there?
[02:46] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: yes you can
[02:46] <Xanadu> n0odl3: do you have the little speaker icon at the top right of your screen?
[02:46] <n0odl3> no
[02:46] <n0odl3> i dont have that icon
[02:47] <Xanadu> funkyHat_: stop u from upgrading what>
[02:47] <tyler_durden> how do i remove a program that i installed using a launcher? ati drivers for example
[02:47] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, and how exactly can I do it? (also, how do I check my version of the system?)
[02:47] <funkyHat> Xanadu, it's just stopping me from updating packages...
[02:47] <tyler_durden> nobody knows the answer tot hat?
[02:47] <funkyHat> Xanadu, because it thinks skype is broken
[02:47] <Xanadu> funkyHat u tried uninstalling it?
[02:48] <Xanadu> tyler_durden what do u mean a launcher?
[02:48] <tyler_durden> a .sh
[02:48] <funkyHat> Xanadu, no, i know why it's broken, and i know what needs doing to fix it, i just need to know how to create a psuedo package in order to do that
[02:48] <tyler_durden> not console or anything
[02:48] <n0odl3> xanadu i dont have that icon
[02:48] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: open a terminal and type either "lsb_release -a" or "cat /etc/issue"
[02:48] <funkyHat> Xanadu, skype depends on libqt3c102-mt, which is replaced in breezy by libqt3-mt
[02:48] <Xanadu> n0odl3 that's weird it should work automatically
[02:49] <tuxedo_kamen> hum, ok
[02:49] <n0odl3> Xanadu do you think im sound card isnt fully plugged in?
[02:49] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, so how exactly do I use the *.iso to directly update my system?
[02:49] <Xanadu> funkyHat u just need to build it with the libqt3 packages - instructions are on skype forums
[02:49] <ormandj> when you type "exit" when you have multiple terminals open
[02:49] <ormandj> it crashes terminal :P
[02:49] <funkyHat> it would take them all of 5 seconds
[02:49] <ormandj> can somebody else verify that?
[02:50] <Xanadu> n0odl3 that's highly likely
[02:50] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: when you get it, you put it in your machine, and type "apt cdrom" and follow the prompts
[02:50] <funkyHat> like it took me, but now it's broken
[02:50] <funkyHat> * 'broken'
[02:50] <n0odl3> Xanadu alright ill try and look into it
[02:50] <Xanadu> ormandj not for me
[02:50] <n0odl3> thank you
[02:50] <antix> anybody using 2 networking cards in the same machine? I can't find the other with ifconfing....?
[02:50] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: then "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade"
[02:50] <ormandj> xanadu: two gngome terminals running, you type "exit" in one, the window closes, you dont get a crash msg then?
[02:50] <funkyHat> all they need to do is make it depend on libqt3c102-mt OR libqt3-mt
[02:51] <zapada> does ubuntu come with wine?
[02:51] <cius> hello
[02:51] <Xanadu> ormandj not for me
[02:51] <ormandj> weird, it doesn't for me now too. you must be good luck xanadu :P
[02:51] <Xanadu> apada breezy certainly does
[02:51] <antix> eth1: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[02:51] <cius> would anyone happen to know if its possible to resize both my ntfs and ext3 partitions after install?
[02:51] <Xanadu> ormandj :)
[02:52] <GhostFreeman> what's the name of a good irc bot for Linux
[02:52] <Xanadu> antix check your /etc/network/interfaces file
[02:52] <ormandj> zapada, if you're going to use it for games, just break down and pay for cedega, it really is the best option. i've got eve-online and wow working great, and i have a crappy ATI card, so that says something
[02:52] <Xanadu> cius with something like partitionmagic, yes
[02:52] <ormandj> just installed the point2play deb
[02:52] <ormandj> and let it install the rest
[02:52] <zapada> ormandj: i want it to emulate Internet Call Manager
[02:52] <ormandj> its worth the 5 bucks a month heh
[02:52] <ormandj> zapada, oh, well then - use wine :P
[02:52] <cius> Xanadu, what about a live cd?
[02:53] <zapada> ormandj: but is it free?
[02:53] <macgeek> ok i want to install ubuntu server, is that the same as the base system?
[02:53] <ormandj> wine is
[02:53] <hosler> zapada, or download cedega and point2play from kazaa. thats what i did
[02:53] <zapada> and can i get wine to emulate it on startup and have it run in background?
[02:53] <ormandj> macgeek: type "server" at the prompt for install
[02:53] <nalioth> macgeek: it's less, actually
[02:53] <Xanadu> zapada breezy has much better wine support - a lot more works out of the box
[02:53] <zapada> cedega eh? never heard of it
[02:53] <ormandj> transgaming.com
[02:53] <ormandj> but it's geared for games
[02:53] <zapada> Xanadu: what's breezy?
[02:53] <ormandj> not what you're talking about
[02:53] <Xanadu> cius I would not advise it since NTFS support for Linux is "experimental"
[02:53] <macgeek> ormandj: ok thanks
[02:53] <ormandj> zapada: breezy is ubuntu 5.10
[02:53] <ormandj> macgeek: np
[02:53] <Xanadu> zapada the next version of ubuntu coming out next week
[02:53] <zapada> ah ok, i have 5.10
[02:53] <sumon> how do i force quit something in ubuntu?
[02:54] <zapada> wait
[02:54] <zapada> nevermind
[02:54] <zapada> lol
[02:54] <zapada> i have 5.04
[02:54] <zapada> i think
[02:54] <ormandj> :P
[02:54] <Xanadu> sumon killall yourappname
[02:54] <zapada> so i should wait for 5.10?
[02:54] <martincho> build-essential comes with the ubuntu cd?
[02:54] <ormandj> sumon, open a termal, type "ps aux" then kill -9 PID
[02:54] <martincho> Or I must Install from Internet?
[02:54] <ormandj> changing PID to the process
[02:54] <nalioth> martincho: yes
[02:54] <sumon> great thanks
[02:54] <Xanadu> sumon or if it's a window type alt-f2, xkill, and click on the offending window
[02:54] <martincho> thanks again :)
[02:54] <cius> Xanadu, I used the ntfs resize when i installed my current ubuntu setup and it worked fine, but I wasn't sure what doing it *after* the install would take.
[02:55] <johhny> cius: with breezy, or hoary?
[02:55] <Xanadu> cius if there's nothing important on the drive you can try it ;)
[02:55] <cius> johhny, hoary
[02:55] <Xanadu> cius i strongly suggest partitionmagic for that stuff - it's hard-core
[02:55] <cius> xanadu, thanks, I might have to try that
[02:55] <johhny> cius: So I am guessing it would work perfectly fine on hoary also
[02:55] <nalioth> cius: use qtparted
[02:56] <cius> xanadu, is it free?
[02:56] <Xanadu> cius i'm afraid not
[02:56] <MEtaLpREs> can someone give me ahand getting my 2 extra hard drives mounted? i never had a problem getting drives mounted in any other distro but it just doesnt seem to want to go in ubuntu
[02:56] <zapada> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=195 <--- that's the app that i want to emulate... since its in that databse, does that mean it will work?
[02:56] <Xanadu> cius gparted might do the job - not sure tho
[02:56] <yannick_> hi everybody
[02:56] <cius> xanadu, not too much help to me right now then, alas I'm a poor college student
[02:56] <tyler_durden> can somebody pleaese tell me why ubuntu is so choppy? or any linux in htat matter... i have a celeron 2.5, 768 ram and an fx 5500
[02:56] <nalioth> Xanadu: qtparted uses ntfsresize. gparted does not
[02:56] <antix> Xanadu, don't I have to get the system to recognize eth1 first?
[02:56] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to install java on ubuntu
[02:56] <cius> nalioth, I'll look into it
[02:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about javadeb
[02:57] <nalioth> cius: see my comment to Xanadu above
[02:57] <antix> Xanadu, /etc/network/interfaces is just for configuring it?
[02:57] <n0odl3> what is javadeb?
[02:57] <yannick_> I have this strange problem when trying to open a divx : Failed to play: Internal GStreamer error: pad problem.  File a bug.
[02:57] <tyler_durden> ubotu tell tylerdurden about ubotu
[02:57] <yannick_> I don't know what to do
[02:57] <nalioth> tyler_durden: please communicate privately with ubotu
[02:57] <cius> xanadu, nalioth, and johhny, thanks for the help, I'll be back shortly hopefully to let you know how it goes.  I'll probly try qtparted first.  if i have to reinstall, no big, I won't cry much :-)
[02:57] <tyler_durden> i was trying to find out how
[02:57] <Xanadu> antix /etc/network/interfaces is read by ifup and ifdown on startup and shutdown and creates the eth0, eth1 etc etc links
[02:58] <tyler_durden> he wont say anything when i "what is xxx"
[02:58] <Xanadu> cius good luck dude!
[02:58] <nalioth> tyler_durden: first you ahve to be identified to services
[02:58] <tyler_durden> ooh
[02:58] <n0odl3> wait i dont get it?
[02:58] <n0odl3> what am i suppose to do now?
[02:58] <yannick_> nobody has this message before ?
[02:58] <phoenixbyrd> n0odl3: fart
[02:58] <nalioth> n0odl3: choose your java and download it
[02:58] <ProN00b> fuck
[02:58] <nalioth> ProN00b: language please
[02:59] <n0odl3> uhh i have 5.94
[02:59] <n0odl3> i mean5.04
[02:59] <Xanadu> n0odle: system/admin/package manager
[02:59] <n0odl3> which one do i choose?
[02:59] <nalioth> n0odl3: so get the java for hoary
[02:59] <Xanadu> n0odle: system/admin/synaptic package manager
[02:59] <ProN00b> nautilus really freezes everytime i try to copy some big files from one disk to another
[02:59] <Xanadu> n0odle: then search for java under name and description
[02:59] <n0odl3> ok i went to the site and there are 3 links
[02:59] <ProN00b> can anyone say reproducable ?
[02:59] <nalioth> Xanadu: n0odl3 is using a factoid, not synaptic
[02:59] <N6REJ> evening everyone.... how can I tell breezy to NOT start the gui on boot?  the gui is causing the system to freeze.
[03:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Xanadu about javadeb
[03:00] <tyler_durden> so how do i remove a program and how do i remove an icon from the applications menu? i cant remove it from smeg because its kinda seperate
[03:00] <vranghel> hello
[03:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tyler_durden about smeg
[03:00] <tyler_durden> ugh i have it already
[03:00] <n0odl3> which link am i suppose to click
[03:00] <tyler_durden> i tried removing the icon but the icon didnt come with ubuntu so it isnt listed in the icon list
[03:00] <vranghel> can anyone tell me how run a livecd from thumb drive?
[03:00] <N6REJ> nalioth: evening... even vesa won't work :(
[03:01] <antix> Xanadu, can I just run /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[03:01] <nalioth> n0odl3: get the 1.5j2re
[03:01] <n0odl3> there is a parent directory then sun-j2rel.5.1.5.0
[03:01] <n0odl3> ok
[03:01] <nalioth> N6REJ: sorry to hear that
[03:01] <Xanadu> antix or ifup eth1
[03:01] <n0odl3> so am i suppose to save it to a disk or something?
[03:01] <vranghel> do i need to do anything else other than setting bios to boot from USB?
[03:01] <nalioth> n0odl3: yes
[03:01] <Xanadu> antix it should give you a message to tell u how it's getting on (unlike ifconfig up)
[03:01] <N6REJ> nalioth: I've decided not to worry about it for not as I can handle shell, but I need to turn off the booting into the gui logon screen.  How can I do that?
[03:02] <nalioth> N6REJ: i'm not sure
[03:02] <antix> Xanadu, Ignoring unkown interface eth1=eth1
[03:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell N6REJ about bum
[03:03] <vranghel> can u guys tell me how to run a livecd from USB?
[03:03] <Xanadu> antix dmesg to check that it detected the card and such
[03:03] <n0odl3> ok im done d/ling it now what?
[03:03] <amalthea> how do i solve this error: "E: failed to find /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz, have you done <pbuilder create> to create your base tarball yet?
[03:03] <amalthea> "
[03:03] <N6REJ> nalioth: yeah its a bum alright :P
[03:03] <johhny> vranghel: live cd. Read the word live cd
[03:03] <amalthea> when running sudo pbuilder build *.dsc
[03:03] <N6REJ> <---------- goes away to RTFM
[03:04] <amalthea> i've run pbuilder create
[03:04] <macgeek> i got an error when trying to install ubuntu on my hp. it said i should try burning at a slower speed. something like, 'couldn't retrieve reisersparg' or something like that
[03:04] <macgeek> anyone else gotten this? what should i do?
[03:04] <mwright1night> hp laptops are great
[03:04] <vranghel> i've read that by making the machine boot from USB and by having the files on the thumb drive it should work
[03:04] <Xanadu> macgeek i did - taking out the cd and rubbing it carefully a bit helped
[03:04] <antix> Xanadu, looks like it didn't... :(
[03:05] <mwright1night> I'm biased though as I work for HP
[03:05] <macgeek> Xanadu: like cleaning it?
[03:05] <antix> Xanadu, can I do anything to make it detect it? swap them?!
[03:05] <n0odl3> so what do i do after i downloaded the thing?>
[03:05] <Xanadu> antix then first u should sort out the drivers for the card
[03:05] <nalioth> macgeek: yes it's a common bug. check your md5s on your iso image and burn it really slow
[03:05] <st1lgar> don't "free the fish" !
[03:05] <Xanadu> macgeek yup
[03:05] <Xanadu> antix what card is it?
[03:05] <ssdd65> is there a way to upgrade to breezy from the cd rather than downloading the updates?
[03:05] <nalioth> ssdd65: yes
[03:05] <crazeej> hey guys, where's the backports link(s)???
[03:06] <macgeek> nalioth: md5s?
[03:06] <ssdd65> ?
[03:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell crazeej about backports
[03:06] <crazeej> ...for breezy?
[03:06] <antix> Xanadu, I used the first card and that worked. then I put in the second card and that works (as eth0) but not the first card as eth1..
[03:06] <nalioth> ssdd65: you asked a question. the answer is yes
[03:06] <Xanadu> same type of card antix?
[03:06] <n0odl3> hello
[03:06] <antix> Xanadu, first card is 3com fast etherlink XL
[03:06] <n0odl3> what do i do now?
[03:06] <ssdd65> how do i upgrade from the cd?
[03:06] <crazeej> ok....what about the w32 codecs??
[03:07] <antix> Xanadu, second (now eth0) is digital 21140
[03:07] <tyler_durden> is there an active firewall in ububtu?
[03:07] <nalioth> ssdd65: put the cd in your machine, type "apt cdrom" and follow the prompts
[03:07] <nalioth> tyler_durden: no there is not
[03:07] <Xanadu> ssdd65: stick in the breezy cd and open synaptic and add it as a repository
[03:07] <tyler_durden> then how come i cant make azureus work?
[03:07] <nalioth> ubuntulog: tell crazeej about w32codecs
[03:07] <n0odl3> nalioth what do i do after i get it?
[03:07] <ssdd65> ahhhh
[03:07] <Xanadu> antix the 3coms not working?
[03:07] <ssdd65> thanks
[03:07] <tyler_durden> Testing port 6881 ... NAT Error
[03:07] <nalioth> n0odl3: "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[03:07] <tyler_durden> and i dont have a firewall
[03:07] <ProN00b> how do i generally get ubuntu to redetect hardware (like it did on install) ?
[03:07] <pupil>  is there a windows manager for gnome that looks like windows xp.. I'm asking because my wife won't let me keep just linux on my puter unless it looks like windows,. and I really don't want to install widows
[03:08] <nalioth> pupil: www.xpde.com
[03:08] <Xanadu> tyler_durden just carry on regardless - it should still work
[03:08] <tyler_durden> well id still liket o know what the problem is
[03:08] <tyler_durden> its not downloading anything
[03:08] <macgeek> pupil: if its your computer, you can do whatever you want :P
[03:08] <pupil> nalioth, Thank you,. your always a help to me and I appreciat it
[03:08] <antix> Xanadu, yes the 3com is not working now with the digital in..
[03:08] <Xanadu> tyler_durden you're going through a nat gateway
[03:08] <tyler_durden> what does that mean and how do i fix it?
[03:08] <nalioth> pupil: np
[03:08] <Xanadu> was the 3com working before?
[03:08] <pupil> macgeek, your either not married,. or its not a happy marriage,. lol
[03:08] [crazeej(n=crazeej@72.24.135.197)]  w32codecs
[03:08] <antix> Xanadu, I can try and swap slots and see if it's the other way around then?
[03:09] <Xanadu> antix you can try but i doubt it will make a difference
[03:09] <n0odl3> nalioth i got "dpkg: error processing file.deb (--install: cannot access archive: no such file or directtory
[03:09] <crazeej> nalioth, the ubuntulog-w32codecs thing didn't work out...i'm still clueless
[03:09] <n0odl3> errors were encountered while processing file.deb
[03:09] <nalioth> n0odl3: have you downloaded it? is it a .torrent?
[03:09] <nalioth> n0odl3: use the name of the file
[03:09] <n0odl3> no its not a .torrent
[03:09] <n0odl3> and yes i downloaded it
[03:09] <n0odl3> ok
[03:09] <tyler_durden> omg i cant believe this. how can linux be so damn slow and choppy?!
[03:10] <bobp> MEtaLpREs: 1) mkdir /my2nd disk, then 2) edit /etc/fstab and add a new entry -- ntfs was needed to mount my XP disk "/dev/hda1	/winxt		ntfs	ro,user		0	1" worked fine for me -- hope it's not too newbie an answer :)
[03:10] <Xanadu> n0odl3 try running the install with sudo
[03:10] <tyler_durden> i so regret uninstalling windows for htis
[03:10] <macgeek> nalioth: you said check the md5s? what do you mean?
[03:10] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: dont
[03:10] <pupil> nalioth, is there a deb package for xpde ?
[03:10] <nalioth> macgeek: iso images are checksummed with an algorythm called md5
[03:10] <tyler_durden> windows was never this slow. i feel like i have 32 mb memory in linux
[03:10] <nalioth> pupil: no, just whats on the website
[03:10] <Xanadu> tyler_durden it just takes a bit of getting used to - like windowz did all those years ago. Then when you go back you'll be like "What is this sh*t?"
[03:10] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: linux is NOT windows. dumbing down the interface makes linux ... harder
[03:10] <tyler_durden> well if only it wasnt so choppy
[03:11] <nalioth> macgeek: you check your iso image against the md5 sum on the download page to see if its the same image
[03:11] <macgeek> nalioth: i know what md5 is, but i never saw mention of it when burning. im burning on mac os x using firestarter fx
[03:11] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: define chopy.
[03:11] <Xanadu> tyler_durden what machine u running it on?
[03:11] <nalioth> macgeek: if you know md5, check em
[03:11] <crazeej> nalioth, can you help me out with the w32 codecs help one more time??
[03:11] <tyler_durden> celeron 2.6 768 ram nvidia fx 5500 with drivers isntalled correctly
[03:11] <chis`> I'm trying to gt connected.. it said it detected it all for my wireless connection, but it hasn't , so I decided to hook up the wired, and like, well, i don't know how to configure it, I goto Network settings, have to pull down the menu to the bottom to see admin, I hit admin, type in my password, and it just refuses it (well it doesn't say that, but fuck all happens :/). So i'm sorta.. stuck
[03:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell crazeej about w32codecs
[03:11] <zapada> has anyone here gotten a winmodem to work with ubuntu?
[03:11] <Xanadu> tyler_durden it shouldn't be choppy :(
[03:12] <macgeek> nalioth: how? i just know what md5 *is*
[03:12] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: celeron -- what speed?
[03:12] <tyler_durden> celeron 2.5
[03:12] <tyler_durden> 2500..
[03:12] <kbrooks> 2.5 ghz?
[03:12] <nalioth> macgeek: in OSX type md5 blah.iso against your iso image
[03:12] <Xanadu> chris' u sure you typing the right password?
[03:12] <chis`> ok, if i enter a wrong password it tells me, if it's right, it still doesn't let me access the network interfaces. lalal joy joy i think i have a fucked copy tbh
[03:12] <tyler_durden> and i know it shouldnt be choppy :( but all linux's i tried were choppy
[03:12] <tyler_durden> i dont understand
[03:12] <nalioth> macgeek: compare the md5 to the one on the ubuntu download page
[03:13] <Chris_Tucker> clawson\] [\'
[03:13] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: linux is not windows. understood?
[03:13] <Chris_Tucker> wtf] 
[03:13] <macgeek> nalioth: ok, how do i get the one on the ubuntu page? do they have it just sitting there?
[03:13] <tyler_durden> why does it matter? im not exactly comparing them, but u certainly can see a big performance difference
[03:13] <nalioth> macgeek: it should be on the same page you got the iso from
[03:13] <nalioth> tyler_durden: no trolling please
[03:13] <kbrooks> nalioth: he isnt
[03:13] <chis`> roooarr just let me access the god dammned network interfaces so i can make it automatically detect my connection! :(((((((
[03:13] <st1lgar> h tyler_durden, you have really have a gift to upset ppl here =)
[03:13] <tyler_durden> how am i trolling?
[03:14] <Xanadu> tyler_durden I can see a big performance difference - windowz dragged on my machine, linux is smooth and fast
[03:14] <tyler_durden> what r u talking about sigh?
[03:14] <tyler_durden> thats really weird
[03:14] <tyler_durden> i hate this. it takes about 5 seconds to open/change something
[03:14] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: you have a strange configurawtion
[03:14] <n0odl3> it keeps on telling me it cant find the file
[03:14] <st1lgar> tyler_durden: i agree with you, gnome is slower than xp on my computer too
[03:14] <n0odl3> its on my desktop
[03:14] <kbrooks> nalioth: go on.
[03:14] <antix> Xanadu, now I only get a eth1 (the digital) and no eth0..
[03:14] <Xanadu> tyler_durden you might have something messed up on your machine like bad vid drivers or something
[03:15] <tyler_durden> i have the drivers installed fine
[03:15] <n0odl3> i just extracted the files
[03:15] <n0odl3> but where do i extract them from?
[03:15] <antix> Xanadu, so it seems the 3com will not work with the digital in...
[03:15] <chis`> Administrative mode seems to be failing altogether, worked earyler.. what have i done :/
[03:15] <tyler_durden> its the exact same speed on all the linux's ive tried in the past
[03:15] <macgeek> nalioth: i dont see an md5 here: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/
[03:15] <Xanadu> antix if the 3com worked before with the digital out, it'll work with the digital in
[03:15] <nalioth> macgeek: scroll down
[03:15] <antix> Xanadu, any way to have both cards work?
[03:15] <Xanadu> antix i'm afraid i'm a bit rusty on network card configs
[03:16] <Xanadu> antix msg me your /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:16] <antix> Xanadu, ok but thanks anyway.. and the 3com did work before. strange...
[03:16] <macgeek> nalioth: i did
[03:16] <pupil> nalioth, to decompress a file whats the command.  its a tar.gz file
[03:16] <tyler_durden> how can i install a different driver set for my nvidia?
[03:16] <n0odl3> i dont know how to use the command
[03:16] <st1lgar> starting ff when another 1 is already running takes 5 sec, gedit fresh: 3s and gedit with another gedit running < 1s
[03:16] <n0odl3> arrgh
[03:16] <tyler_durden> id like to install the 66's
[03:17] <st1lgar> with xp they all take < 1 sec
[03:17] <Xanadu> tyler_durden - download from nvidia's site and make sure you have build-essential
[03:17] <nalioth> pupil: may i recommend "man tar" ?? and 'tar xvzf file.tar.gz'
[03:17] <macgeek> nalioth: nevermind i found it
[03:17] <tyler_durden> what is build essential?
[03:17] <nalioth> macgeek: click on 'md5sums'
[03:17] <pupil> nalioth, you may,. thanks,. I keep forgetting theres are man pages
[03:17] <nalioth> tyler_durden: it is a metapkg containing several compilation programs
[03:17] <Xanadu> tyler_durden it's the headers and compilers for building programs from source - like you'll need to build the nvidia drivers from source
[03:18] <tyler_durden> what?! im a 2 day linux noob how will i be able to compile/build?
[03:18] <Xanadu> antix does "dmesg | grep 3com -i" get you anything?
[03:18] <nalioth> tyler_durden: it is easy. just follow the directions
[03:18] <tyler_durden> ok and where do i get that?
[03:18] <n0odl3> ok does anyone really know how to install java?
[03:18] <tyler_durden> from their website as well?
[03:18] <nalioth> n0odl3: you install the deb you download
[03:18] <n0odl3> i have the .deb file on my desktop
[03:18] <n0odl3> how do i install it
[03:18] <nalioth> tyler_durden: all software comes via apt-get or synaptic
[03:18] <Xanadu> tyler_durden sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:18] <macgeek> is there a unix command for comparing 2 strings?
[03:19] <nalioth> n0odl3: you run "sudo dpkg -i whatever-file-you-have.deb"
[03:19] <nalioth> macgeek: diff
[03:19] <n0odl3> i did
[03:19] <crazeej> is it just me...or is Firefox giving a lot of Chrome/XML Parsing errors???
[03:19] <macgeek> nalioth: thanks
[03:19] <pupil> nalioth I want to add xpde to the window managers,. I take it I will have to edit th .xinitrc file,. do you know where its located?
[03:20] <nalioth> pupil: i personally would not follow those instructions
[03:20] <antix> Xanadu, yes that gives the info on the 3com card
[03:20] <n0odl3> nalioth it is on my desktop
[03:20] <nalioth> pupil: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[03:20] <n0odl3> should it be in some particular place?
[03:20] <macgeek> nalioth: that compares 2 files... is there a command to compare 2 strings? (such as an md5 checksum)
[03:20] <N6REJ> nalioth: I got the 54g working after several hours and attempts... The hoary wiki was close to the solution but needs a minor change to work for breezy and the f5d7001, I'd like to pass my experience on to save others the countless hours I spent.  How can I do that.
[03:20] <pupil> nalioth, I'm not using kubuntu though
[03:20] <nalioth> n0odl3: open a terminal and cd to the Desktop, run "sudo dpkg -i sun<tab>"
[03:20] <nalioth> macgeek: use your mark one eyeball
[03:21] <angvp> gnite all
[03:21] <nalioth> macgeek: if the first 5 numbers dont match, it is a clue
[03:21] <n0odl3> :~$ sudo dkpg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04i386.deb
[03:21] <n0odl3> sudo: dkpg: command not found
[03:21] <n0odl3> thats all i get
[03:21] <antix> Xanadu, it's a little difficult to send the file as it's on the other machine w/o network but I just tried adding map eth1 and a new entry with 10.0.0.1 etc
[03:21] <nalioth> n0odl3: spelling
[03:22] <macgeek> nalioth: ok well they match. now i reburn at the slowest speed?
[03:22] <nalioth> macgeek: yes
[03:22] <MEtaLpREs> can someone help me with this error im getting when trying to mount a hard drive?
[03:22] <st1lgar> macgeek: if [[ a = a ] ] ; then echo yes; fi
[03:22] <thewayofzen> downloaded java as suggested by ubotu
[03:22] <thewayofzen> still getting the same errors from azureus
[03:23] <nalioth> N6REJ: sign up for a wiki account and add your instructions
[03:23] <macgeek> nalioth: ok thanks, st1lgar: oh of course, i totally forgot about that
[03:23] <thewayofzen> anyone using azureus with breezy?
[03:23] <n0odl3> cd desktop
[03:23] <n0odl3> bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[03:23] <n0odl3> this keeps on happening everytime i try to cd
[03:23] <nalioth> n0odl3: it's Desktop
[03:23] <MEtaLpREs> its Desktop not desktop
[03:23] <N6REJ> nalioth: the info from the hoary wiki will need to be moved to the breezy wiki
[03:23] <st1lgar> not *mac*geek for nothing :)
[03:23] <nalioth> n0odl3: linux is case sensitive
[03:23] <n0odl3> ok
[03:23] <n0odl3> thankyou
[03:23] <nalioth> N6REJ: sign up and do well
[03:23] <N6REJ> nalioth: cc
[03:23] <angvp> i'm having troubles installing a WLL card with ubuntu (hoarty), the card have a Ralink 2500 chipset, i've downloaded and descompressed the driver and installed the header, so, i ran make config, and tell me an error, "kernel version isn't compatible" now I know what version of kernel i'm using, and i have the correct source, anyone have installed this network card before?
[03:24] <MEtaLpREs> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,
[03:24] <MEtaLpREs>        missing codepage or other error
[03:24] <MEtaLpREs> any idea whats causing that?
[03:24] <nalioth> MEtaLpREs: see "man fstab"
[03:24] <MEtaLpREs> the drive is ext3 or aleast it was before i installed ubuntu
[03:24] <pupil> MEtaLpREs, are you trying to mount an extended partition?
[03:25] <MEtaLpREs> im trying to mount a second hard drive
[03:25] <MEtaLpREs> it only has 1 partition
[03:25] <pupil> sudo fdisk -l
[03:26] <antix> Xanadu, so the system does recognize the device but it doesn't get mapped to any ethx..
[03:26] <n0odl3> thank you for helping
[03:26] <n0odl3> sorry if  i was freaking out
[03:26] <luckyaba> anyone know how to enable or setup dual head?
[03:26] <MEtaLpREs> yea im seeing the drives in fdisk
[03:26] <luckyaba> sli?
[03:26] <n0odl3> when do i know the unpacking is done?
[03:27] <kbrooks> when it returns control
[03:27] <MEtaLpREs> none of the drives except my / drive show any paritions though
[03:28] <jeff_> can i get kde on ubuntu without using kubuntu?
[03:28] <MEtaLpREs> i was just using the drives earlier today, i installed ubuntu and now my drives have no partition tables....
[03:28] <tyler_durden> whats the command to cd to desktop?
[03:28] <n0odl3> cd Desktop
[03:28] <n0odl3> thats the command
[03:28] <Xanadu> cd ~/desktop
[03:28] <nalioth> jeff_: yes, although kubuntu-desktop makes it easy
[03:28] <tyler_durden> oh thanks forgot it's case sensitive
[03:28] <nalioth> Xanadu: spelling
[03:28] <Xanadu> nalioth whatz that?
[03:29] <jeff_> is kubuntu an official ubuntu project? or a fork?
[03:29] <nalioth> Xanadu: cd ~/Desktop
[03:29] <MEtaLpREs> i really need these drives working again without losing the data that is (was?) on them
[03:29] <n0odl3> do you really have to type the /?
[03:29] <n0odl3> i didnt have to
[03:30] <speel> hey any one here running breezy having a problem with totem?
[03:30] <Xanadu> n0odle you were in your home directory - the ~ means "my home directory" so you can run it wherever you are in your file system
[03:31] <n0odl3> i see
[03:31] <Xanadu> n0odle the ~ is called a tilde
[03:32] <Pshivers> I jsut ran #sudo apt-get upgrade, when i run #sudo apt-get update now it says::: /var/lib/apt/lists/lock: no access
[03:32] <boxerboy29> does anyone know of a program similar to kdevelop for gnome?
[03:32] <mazatl> anjuta ?
[03:33] <boxerboy29> can i manually compile it using gcc?
[03:33] <speel> any one here at all running breezy?
[03:33] <mazatl> I'm not sure, I just did apt-get install anjuta
[03:33] <Pshivers> yes speel
[03:33] <boxerboy29> i mean the program i write
[03:33] <cvt> what's the command to start my junior-typing program?
[03:33] <mazatl> It uses gcc yes
[03:33] <speel> Pshivers, are you having problems with like firefox visiting sites with multimedia on it like a video?
[03:33] <Pshivers> nope
[03:33] <Pshivers> not at all
[03:33] <boxerboy29> cause they have buttons to do it but i would rather have hands on
[03:34] <speel> hmm ok thanks man
[03:34] <jcaf> breezy here
[03:34] <mazatl> It has the terminal integregated
[03:34] <mazatl> try it out and see if its what you want
[03:34] <cvt> "apt start junior-typing?"
[03:34] <boxerboy29> ok ty mazatl i will in morning ty
[03:34] <speel> that and my webcam locking up my comp is driving me nuts
[03:35] <speel> =o this is the quietest ive seen in the ubuntu channel lol
[03:36] <Xanadu> speel whenever someone says that it goes craazy
[03:36] <speel> lol
[03:36] <[LethAL] > Well... seems ok so far :P
[03:36] <Xanadu> lol
[03:36] <Daywalker> i have a problem with my linux
[03:37] <Daywalker> i can't connect internet by PPPoE
[03:37] <Daywalker> i don't know how to connect to the internet
[03:37] <Daywalker> and how to make the connection
[03:37] <Daywalker> please help me
[03:37] <Xanadu> daywalker i use roaring penguin
[03:37] <Daywalker> what penguin?
[03:37] <Daywalker> i have ubuntu
[03:38] <Pshivers> I jsut ran #sudo apt-get upgrade, when i run #sudo apt-get update now it says::: /var/lib/apt/lists/lock: no access
[03:38] <cvt> how do i start a program that's not visible but i know the name of it?
[03:38] <cvt> it's installed
[03:38] <Xanadu> daywalker roaring penguin is a pppoe dialer for linux
[03:38] <Pshivers> is there a way to unlock it?
[03:38] <cvt> junior typing
[03:38] <[LethAL] > cvt, alt-f2
[03:38] <eythian> cvt: most likely, type the name
[03:38] <cvt> i tried typing it in the root terminal
[03:38] <Daywalker> i don't understand Xanadu
[03:38] <nalioth> cvt: dont use a root terminal
[03:38] <eythian> cvt: don't use the root terminal if you can avoid it
[03:38] <Daywalker> do i need a pppoe software
[03:38] <cvt> ok
[03:39] <Daywalker> ?
[03:39] <cvt> it said Cannot display location 'file://junior-typing'
[03:39] <mirabalj> exit
[03:39] <poningru> daysleper: no
[03:39] <Xanadu> Daywalker there is a pppoe dialer built in to ubuntu but i don't use it cause it's not cool enough for me ;)
[03:39] <antix> Xanadu, sorry for being sceptical. you were right all along. it was my interfaces file that was wrong. when I added some more info like nw, bc etc for eth1 it worked. it didn't get any address before.. thanks!
[03:39] <eythian> cvt: try typing jun and then pressing tab a couple of times
[03:39] <Xanadu> antix lol! after all that ;P
[03:39] <poningru> woah Xanadu
[03:39] <poningru> can you fix teh interweb?
[03:39] <Daywalker> where i live i don't have ADSL connection
[03:40] <Daywalker> so ubuntu bring a pppoe dialer
[03:40] <Daywalker> ?
[03:40] <Xanadu> poningru yo! wassup?
[03:40] <antix> Xanadu, problem was I didn't know what to write.. but looking at ifconfig on another machine I saw what network address and broadcast should be... :)
[03:40] <breakthestate> antix: good solution
[03:40] <Xanadu> aaah see if u coulda sent it to me i coulda fixed it antix ;)
[03:41] <breakthestate> ah, but better that antix fixed it him/herself
[03:41] <Xanadu> antix i think there are examples in /usr/share/docs/ifupdown if u get stuck again
[03:41] <xenobytes> I had a question about installing flash and getting java integration working on firefox -- it seems like the backports repos are down (even the new ones, I know they moved from mirrormax). What should I do?
[03:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell xenobytes about javadeb
[03:42] <Xanadu> yeah antix dude now you're a networking guru
[03:42] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: well?
[03:42] <xenobytes> thanks nalioth.
[03:42] <tyler_durden> =/ no luck, it says i dont have some kernel
[03:43] <antix> Xanadu, thanks. maybe I can find out what I did.. :) I put "map eth1" instead of eth0.. dunno if it mattered...
[03:43] <Xanadu> tyler_durden apt-get linux-headers
[03:43] <tyler_durden> i did that before i isntalled
[03:44] <Xanadu> tyler_durden you might need the full kernel - apt-get linux-kernel and then go to /src and extract it and then try again
[03:44] <tyler_durden> it said it couldnt find linux-kernel
[03:44] <nalioth> tyler_durden: use synaptic
[03:44] <kbrooks> Xanadu: thats /usr/src/.
[03:45] <Xanadu> kbrooks sheesh i'm not doing so well tonight with the details
[03:45] <luckyaba> what numbers should be in my xorg from when i bring up lspi?
[03:45] <kbrooks> Xanadu: oic...
[03:45] <cvt> i remember using junior-typing on my system but i can't remember how to start it.
[03:45] <tyler_durden> linux-kernel-headers is already installed
[03:46] <xenobytes> nalioth, what about flash?
[03:46] <xenobytes> Flash is really what I'm after.
[03:46] <nalioth> xenobytes: /msg ubotu restricted
[03:46] <xenobytes> thx.
[03:47] <antix> Xanadu, thanks again.. past bedtime now... cya :)
[03:47] <luckyaba> mozilla isn't displaying any fonts?
[03:48] <luckyaba> firefox that is
[03:48] <tyler_durden> how do i stop gnome and go to recovery mode without restarting?
[03:49] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: ctrl+alt+f1, login, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, init 1
[03:50] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[03:50] <merula> hey
[03:50] <breakthestate> where is gcc in ubuntu?
[03:50] <tuxedo_kamen> sorry, but I just downloaded the latest ubuntu *.iso and now I wanted to know how to update my system by using that iso! Can anyone please tell me?
[03:50] <eros> hi
[03:51] <breakthestate> tuxedo: are you already using ubuntu?
[03:51] <durt> greetings
[03:51] <speel> breakthestate, you have to download it
[03:51] <tuxedo_kamen> yeah
[03:51] <nalioth> breakthestate: install "build-essential" then it'll be in /usr/bin/
[03:51] <merula> breakthestate, you have to force it to install if you can't get apt-get to install it
[03:51] <eros> ubuntu is good bu...
[03:51] <merula> that too
[03:51] <speel> breakthestate, apt-get install build-essential
[03:51] <cvt> Error Another synaptic is running
[03:51] <speel> that will install all essential dev tools
[03:51] <cvt> help?
[03:51] <eros> i like SUSE the best
[03:51] <breakthestate> oh wow, thx, ubuntu doesn't have it
[03:51] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: insert the cd and type "apt-cdrom"
[03:51] <breakthestate> ?
[03:52] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O what cd? like I said before, I don't have a cd recorder, I want to install it from the iso!
[03:52] <speel> breakthestate, well they do its on the cd i think its just not installed by default
[03:52] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: oh. i'm lost then
[03:52] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, mount the iso as a loopback
[03:52] <tuxedo_kamen> i have no idea on how to mount it, sorry
[03:52] <merula> tuxedo, man mount
[03:52] <breakthestate> speel, nalioth, merula: thx
[03:53] <n0odl3> im trying to run the esd command in sudo but its not working
[03:53] <merula> np
[03:53] <n0odl3> does anyone know what im doing wrong?
[03:53] <speel> breakthestate, np :)
[03:53] <cvt> i guess i'll have to reboot
[03:53] <tuxedo_kamen> >_< merula, mount is not going to help me, since I am a newbie and it sounds like chinese to me!
[03:53] <tuxedo_kamen> i mean, "man"
[03:53] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, ok then
[03:53] <tyler_durden> it says no precompiled kernel found
[03:53] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, hold on... I'll find it
[03:54] <nalioth> pupil: are you in windows land?
[03:54] <tuxedo_kamen> ok, thanks
[03:54] <pupil> not yet
[03:54] <tuxedo_kamen> I just want to update my ubuntu using this *.iso ...
[03:54] <pupil> whats that channel you had me join?
[03:54] <nalioth> pupil: #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:54] <tyler_durden> when i try to instal lthe nvidia drivers it says no precompiled kernel found. how do i fix it?
[03:54] <pupil> But I can fix the problem
[03:54] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, http://thomer.com/howtos/mount_loopback.html
[03:55] <merula> mount file.iso /cdrom -t iso9660 -o loop.
[03:55] <merula> that should work
[03:55] <eros> a im new usin ubuntu can someone tell me where to start
[03:55] <StrikeForce> http://www.tech-recipes.com/linux_tips857.html for mounting
[03:55] <merula> eros, what have you used before?
[03:55] <anethema> start with what
[03:55] <eros> Suse
[03:56] <StrikeForce> mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/test
[03:56] <tyler_durden> :( no one noes? please i really need this to work
[03:56] <eros> well i think some of the comands are different with ubuntu
[03:56] <StrikeForce> tyler_durden, it always does
[03:56] <Xanadu> tyler_durden did you download the linux kernel?
[03:56] <StrikeForce> tyler_durden, just keep going
[03:56] <tyler_durden> yes
[03:56] <tyler_durden> i cant it quits
[03:56] <tyler_durden> it wont let me continue
[03:56] <Mustard5> tyler_durden, it always says that
[03:56] <tyler_durden> but it wont letme continue
[03:56] <eros> hwlp
[03:57] <Mustard5> what option do you choose?
[03:57] <tuxedo_kamen> merula and StrikeForce, I get this error: mount: could not find any device /dev/loop#
[03:57] <funkyHat> how do i kill users logged on to a machine?
[03:58] <tyler_durden> i dont choose anything. first it says cant run some check, i say ok, then it says it cant find a precompiled kernel i say ok, it asks if i want it to search for one over their ftp i say yes and it says it cant find any and it forces me to quit
[03:58] <StrikeForce> tyler_durden, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52924
[03:58] <funkyHat> they should have timed out by now :S the ssh session died hours ago
[03:58] <Mustard5> so no to the ftp question
[03:58] <Mustard5> say no to the ftp question
[03:58] <tyler_durden> ok ill try
[03:59] <Xanadu> night all
[03:59] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, you have to make a directory.
[03:59] <StrikeForce> make a directory under /mnt/ e.g. /mnt/test
[03:59] <tuxedo_kamen> merula, I tried this -> mount -o loop -t iso9660 /home/mykas0/Desktop/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso  /mnt/test/
[03:59] <StrikeForce> do you have the directory /mnt/test
[04:00] <tuxedo_kamen> no
[04:00] <mister_roboto> funky_hat: if their ssh session died, why do you think they are still logged on? just curious...
[04:00] <eros> create it
[04:00] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, you have to type mkdir /mnt/test
[04:00] <merula> then that should work
[04:00] <funkyHat> mister_roboto, output from $ users
[04:01] <StrikeForce> anyways bbl fellas
[04:01] <eros> ight every body ill see ya laterz im going to sleep lo
[04:01] <tuxedo_kamen> i created it now, but the command still doesn't work
[04:01] <merula> later StrikeForce
[04:01] <Chinaman> crimsun: what do i do after i run what you told me to do
[04:01] <Chinaman> (i forgot)
[04:01] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, type sudo mount....
[04:01] <mister_roboto> funkyHat: are there any processes for them?  e.g.  "ps -fu <username>" show something?
[04:02] <Chinaman> i remember i need to do the modprobe stuff, but i forgot which command
[04:02] <tuxedo_kamen> merula, that was the first thing I tried
[04:02] <Chinaman> crimsun: i am speaking of ALSA again
[04:02] <merula> hrm...
[04:02] <tuxedo_kamen> sudo su, and then I used everything you told me
[04:02] <Chinaman> crimsun: i just reinstalled my linux
[04:03] <tuxedo_kamen> are you sure the line is this? -> mount -o loop -t iso9660 /home/mykas0/Desktop/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso  /mnt/test/
[04:03] <tyler_durden> what is breezy's CC version?
[04:03] <Chinaman> can anyone help me with ALSA?
[04:03] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, I *think* so, but I could be wrong
[04:04] <Mustard5> CC?
[04:04] <[LethAL] > gcc?
[04:04] <tyler_durden> gcc
[04:04] <tyler_durden> yeah
[04:04] <merula> any help on loopback mounts guys?
[04:04] <[LethAL] > 4
[04:04] <mister_roboto> tyer_durden: gcc 4.0.2 20050808
[04:04] <tyler_durden> thats breezy's right?
[04:04] <mister_roboto> yes
[04:04] <tyler_durden> thanks
[04:04] <amalthea> how do I find out to which package a string belongs?
[04:04] <n0odl3> i have a question
[04:05] <amalthea> if I find a typo in the localization
[04:05] <n0odl3> if i try running esd
[04:05] <tyler_durden> CC=gcc-3.4 (here you have to put the number of the gcc you used to compile your kernel, which is 3.4 in my case**)
[04:05] <n0odl3> and it tells me "/dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[04:05] <n0odl3> "
[04:05] <n0odl3> does this mean that my card is not plugged in?
[04:05] <[LethAL] > n0odl3, Sounds like it
[04:05] <tyler_durden> so i do CC=gcc 4.0.2 20050808?
[04:05] <n0odl3> ok
[04:05] <n0odl3> thqts what i thoght
[04:05] <n0odl3> thank you
[04:06] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: No.
[04:06] <Chinaman> can some one help me with alsa?
[04:06] <tuxedo_kamen> merule, I extracted all the files from the iso into a certain place, now how can I update from that place?
[04:06] <tyler_durden> so what do i put there?
[04:06] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: CC=gcc-4.0
[04:06] <merula> tuxedo_kamen,
[04:06] <tyler_durden> ohh ok
[04:06] <tyler_durden> great thanks
[04:06] <Mustard5> what is happening with ALSA Chinaman ?
[04:06] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden:  /usr/bin/gcc is just a link to gcc-4.0
[04:06] <Chinaman> well, i ran what crimsun gave me
[04:06] <Chinaman> the little factoid
[04:07] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, should be: mount /image /mnt/test -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop3,blocksize=1024
[04:07] <mister_roboto> just putting "gcc" should work with whatever gcc you have installed and to which that link pionts
[04:07] <Chinaman> now i'm in /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver$ and i don't know where to go next
[04:07] <Mustard5> what little factoid?
[04:07] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, it was right about line 1300 in the manpage: man mount
[04:07] <Chinaman> the following: Type the following in a terminal: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source && cd /usr/src && sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source && cd modules/alsa-driver && sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build KVERS=$(uname -r) && sudo dpkg -i ../alsa-modules*.deb
[04:08] <Chinaman> i got emu2k10
[04:08] <tuxedo_kamen> merula, I get this error: /dev/loop3: Arquivo ou diretrio no encontrado
[04:08] <tuxedo_kamen>  <--- archive or directory not found
[04:08] <Chinaman> and i remember i had to do something with modprobe
[04:08] <Mustard5> hmmmm....bit out of my depth unfortunately
[04:09] <tuxedo_kamen> but listen, I extracted the content to a certain briefcase, can't I now update it from there?
[04:09] <Chinaman> Mustard5: thx for ur help
[04:09] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, change loop3 to loop
[04:09] <N6REJ> nalioth: I lost the link the ubotu gave me last nite about the nic.  It was something to do with hoary
[04:09] <tuxedo_kamen> merula, same problem
[04:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell N6REJ about ndiswrapper
[04:09] <Chinaman> !tell Chinaman about alsa-source
[04:10] <empeee> Hey, how can i stop a certain module from being autoloaded?
[04:10] <tuxedo_kamen> but like I asked before, can't i install it from a specific folder?
[04:10] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, do an ls /dev/l*
[04:10] <tuxedo_kamen> returns this -> /dev/log  /dev/lp0  /dev/lvm
[04:10] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, if you can see a /dev/loop in there, then the loop device isn't the prob.
[04:10] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, hrm...
[04:10] <N6REJ> nalioth: nope it was differnt
[04:10] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: if you've extracted the iso, then you should read up on "apt-build"
[04:10] <Chinaman> Mustard5: say, how did you set up your alsa?
[04:11] <nalioth> N6REJ: you got lots of help last night /msg ubotu ubuto
[04:11] <tuxedo_kamen> what's that?
[04:11] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, I'm not sure what to do...
[04:11] <tuxedo_kamen> :S ok...
[04:11] <mister_roboto> empee: I think it's just  a matter of removing the module from /etc/module
[04:11] <mister_roboto> empee: or just comment it out (#)
[04:12] <tuxedo_kamen> can't I set a specific folder where he would search for the new files?
[04:12] <empeee> mister_roboto: yeah, so did i. but the module isnt even listed in there
[04:12] <merula> tux
[04:12] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: apt-build produces it's own internal repository. if you read up on apt-build, you may discover how to access your files
[04:12] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, you could just use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:12] <mister_roboto> empee: then i'm guessing you have an init script loading it .   did you look there?
[04:12] <nemopaice> I installed "wine" Succesfully installed a program with it .......But I cannot figure out how to get it to run?
[04:13] <empeee> mister_roboto: ill check into that, thanks
[04:13] <mister_roboto> empee: say, "grep /etc/rc2.d modprobe"
[04:13] <nalioth> merula: only if apt knows where to look
[04:13] <Chinaman> does anyone know how to finish setting up ALSA?
[04:13] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, check out ubuntuguide.org
[04:13] <mister_roboto> empee: err... not right syntax :)   "grep modprobe /etc/rc?.d/*
[04:14] <N6REJ> nalioth: nope!  Now I know why its so hard to get the nics going.... the information is hard to find... I guess I'll just step through every website over the last 48 and find it... I should've printed the darn thing out.
[04:14] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, it helped me tremendously, coming from slackware and the like.
[04:14] <empeee> ahh, yes,..thanks
[04:14] <Chinaman> crimsun: i need your help again
[04:14] <nalioth> merula: oooh. not good. please dont recomend ubuntuguide
[04:14] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: stay away from ubuntuguide
[04:14] <Chinaman> yeah, ubuntuguide doesn't help much
[04:14] <nemopaice> could someone please give me an idea how to get "wine" to run a program?
[04:14] <Hobbsee> recommend the faq instead
[04:15] <eythian> nemopaice: wine program.exe
[04:15] <Chinaman> nemopaice: in terminal, type wine (name).exe
[04:15] <Chinaman> same applies to cedega for games
[04:15] <nalioth> nemopaice: wine /path/to/notepad.exe
[04:15] <nemopaice> wineI tried that but it said no such file?
[04:15] <Chinaman> case sensitive
[04:16] <Chinaman> so try typing it with correct case
[04:16] <nemopaice> OK im going to give it a try real quick
[04:16] <tuxedo_kamen> >_>
[04:17] <tuxedo_kamen> listen, if I wanted to set a local URI to /home/mykas0/Desktop/blabla/ , what should I input?
[04:17] <tuxedo_kamen> ? tried file:[/home/mykas0/Desktop/blabla] / , but it doesn't work
[04:17] <tyler_durden> ok heres what it said:unable to find the kernel source tree for the current running kernel
[04:17] <sambagirl> what is good morph softwre for ubuntu?
[04:17] <tyler_durden> my only option is to click OK
[04:17] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: deb http://127.0.0.1/home/tuxedo/path/to/iso/files ./
[04:17] <tyler_durden> then it says ERROR: installation failed. and i gotta click ok and then it quits
[04:18] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: amend that line to reflect your box
[04:18] <tuxedo_kamen> lol, I am not that stupid! >_>
[04:19] <gasher> my keyboard layout is killing me
[04:19] <bam_> quick question, whats the advantage of kde over gnome?
[04:19] <tyler_durden> plzplzplz help me plzplz
[04:19] <Chinaman> any one know how to setup alsa the way that crimsun does it?
[04:19] <[LethAL] > Eye candy
[04:19] <nalioth> bam_: personal preference
[04:19] <tyler_durden> i really wanna get it over with already
[04:19] <bam_> no performace change?
[04:19] <nemopaice> wine: cannot find '/drive_c/Program_Files/Apophysis_2.0/Apophysis.exe'
[04:19] <nemopaice> is what I got
[04:19] <nalioth> kde sucks more cpu, usually
[04:20] <eythian> bam_: I find gnome a bit faster, but I think tha's cos I have less stuff open
[04:20] <[LethAL] > nemopaice, first /
[04:20] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, 127.0.0.1 says connection refused! >_<
[04:20] <bam_> 2nd q:
[04:20] <Chinaman> nemopaice: did you mount it correctly?
[04:20] <Chinaman> does anyone know how to use ubuntulog?
[04:20] <bam_> breezy is not released yet? still testing
[04:20] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: try deb file:///home/tuxedoe/path/to/iso/stuff ./
[04:20] <Hobbsee> bam_:yes, it's still testing
[04:20] <luckyaba> can someone tell me how to get the font back in firefox? its not there anymore
[04:20] <tyler_durden> nalioth can u think of anything?
[04:21] <bam_> any "large" bugs?
[04:21] <nemopaice> I followed the directions to the "T" and downloaded Apophysis and let wine run the install
[04:21] <bam_> im debating on setting it up now or wait...
[04:21] <nalioth> tyler_durden: i'm not up on compiling kernel things
[04:21] <tyler_durden> does anyone else know?
[04:21] <tyler_durden> ok heres what it said:unable to find the kernel source tree for the current running kernel
[04:22] <egon_spengler> tyler_durden: Do you have kernel source and headers installed?
[04:22] <mister_roboto> nalioth: what exactly do you think sucks more cpu in kde? curious... the main thing that i see in top on an idle system is Xorg.
[04:22] <tyler_durden> then it says ERROR: installation failed. and i gotta click ok and then it quits
[04:22] <exarkun> evms_activate seems to be missing from my 2.6.12-[89] -686 initrd, preventing booting.  What should I do about this?
[04:22] <tyler_durden> i believe so
[04:22] <mister_roboto> nalioth: everything else is negligible
[04:22] <HrdwrBob> tyler_durden: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:22] <nemopaice> and that path I used is where it loaded the file to
[04:22] <nalioth> MrNaughty: eye candy always is sticky
[04:22] <Hobbsee> bam_: not too many bugs, i dont think
[04:22] <tyler_durden> E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[04:22] <bam_> hmmm..
[04:23] <egon_spengler> tyler_durden: apt-cache search kernel-headers
[04:23] <tyler_durden> kernel-package - A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.
[04:23] <tyler_durden> linux-kernel-headers - Linux Kernel Headers for development
[04:23] [Chinaman(n=zhanghan@adsl-69-208-137-10.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net)]  october 1
[04:23] [Chinaman(n=zhanghan@adsl-69-208-137-10.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net)]  10/01/05
[04:24] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, this didn't worked very good... >_>
[04:24] <egon_spengler> tyler_durden: sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[04:24] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: read up on apt-build or "how to make a repository"
[04:24] <tyler_durden> i jsut did that, says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:24] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: use google
[04:24] <tyler_durden> so i already have it
[04:25] <egon_spengler> tyler_durden: AND kernel-source as well?
[04:25] <egon_spengler> tyler_durden: Since I assume this is against a new nvidia driver install?
[04:25] <Chinaman> crimsun: i need help again with ALSA
[04:25] <tyler_durden> how can i make sure i have that installed? and what do u mean against?
[04:26] <egon_spengler> tyler_durden: Meaning that the trouble you are having is in reference to trying to get a new nvidia kernel module compiled
[04:27] <nemopaice> If noone can help me with wine, howabout a different program that is still free but might work?
[04:27] <tyler_durden> im a total linux newbie, im not sure what were talking about :)
[04:27] <Hobbsee> nemopaice: try #wine
[04:27] <Trashcan> anyone looked at wobbly windows?
[04:28] <nemopaice> you mean at the start of the line?
[04:28] <mister_roboto> egon_spengler: i remember seeing someone else post that there was a problem with the nvidia driver being compiled with an older gcc than that being used to compile the kernel, and this caused a problem using that driver in breezy. Is there really such a problem?
[04:28] <The_Vox> anybody know of a repository to get libdvdcss for breezy from?
[04:28] <egon_spengler> mister_roboto: Indeed, that COULD be a problem
[04:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell The_Vox about hoary-extras
[04:29] <tyler_durden> what does this mean for me lol
[04:29] <Rylie> c
[04:29] <IcemanV9> nemopaice: for more info and apps that work with it, see http://www.winehq.org
[04:29] <The_Vox> nalioth: uhm...I'm looking for breezy, not hoary
[04:29] <nemopaice> ok thanks
[04:29] <nalioth> The_Vox: that is the only place i know of atm
[04:29] <The_Vox> nalioth: k, thanks
[04:29] <Rylie> #ubunutu-offtopic
[04:29] <The_Vox> let's see if I don't break this anymore than it already is :)
[04:30] <mister_roboto> tyler: that's what scared me off of upgrading to breezy right now on my desktop machine (nvidia)
[04:30] <egon_spengler> The_Vox: Try videolan homepage
[04:30] <silasj> hey guys how can I get a package description? what's the difference between [ruby
[04:30] <tyler_durden> please someone.. ive had vid troubles all day
[04:30] <silasj> and [ruby1.8] ?
[04:31] <macgeek> ok i have another problem installing ubuntu: i reburned it at the lowest speed (1), but now im getting another error: 'An error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system. Kernel package: linux-386.'
[04:31] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: you can't get the nvidia module to build?
[04:31] <tyler_durden> im not sure what that means
[04:31] <nalioth> macgeek: what machine are you trying to install on?
[04:31] <test34> is there a way to view wmv files in firefox that requires a plugin ?
[04:31] <tyler_durden> heres what it said:unable to find the kernel source tree for the current running kernel
[04:31] <Chinaman> can someone help me with alsa?
[04:31] <tyler_durden> then it says ERROR: installation failed. and i gotta click ok and then it quits
[04:31] <tyler_durden> and then i can only say OK and it quits
[04:32] <macgeek> nalioth: HP Pavilion 6630, Intel Celeron 500Mhz, 64MB SDRAM
[04:32] <silasj> hey, possible to get some package description?
[04:32] <johhny> How do you enable openoffice.org <--> gnome integration on breezy?
[04:32] <nalioth> macgeek: did you check the md5 on the burnt cd?
[04:32] <johhny> I have the ugly default OO.o dialogs and not gtk2 ones
[04:33] <[NoIzE] > ita in chan?
[04:33] <egon_spengler> tyler_durden: apt-cache search nvidia
[04:33] <Hobbsee> johhny: did you get the gnome packages for OO.o?
[04:33] <macgeek> nalioth: on the cd? or the image before burning?
[04:33] <tyler_durden> i have a specific package im trying to install
[04:33] <nalioth> !ita
[04:33] <ubotu> nalioth: No idea
[04:33] <silasj> johhny, maybe you have to apt-get install [the_package_that_makes_integration] 
[04:33] <tyler_durden> i dont want hte newest
[04:33] <nalioth> holy crap who took the farking italian trigger out
[04:33] <johhny> Hobbsee: yes
[04:33] <The_Vox> egon_spengler: thanks
[04:33] <[NoIzE] > italian peoples in channel?
[04:34] <IcemanV9> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[04:34] <nalioth> parle italiano en #ubuntu-it, por favor
[04:34] <[NoIzE] > k tnx
[04:34] <mister_roboto> ls tyler_durden: do you see the kernel source for your running version under /usr/src?
[04:34] <johhny> openoffice.org2-gnome             1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4                GNOME Integration for OpenOffice.org (Widgets, Dialogs, VFS, GConf)
[04:34] <[LethAL] > lobotomize?
[04:35] <tyler_durden> ATI  linux-headers-2.6.12-9  linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686
[04:35] <nalioth> [LethAL] : somebody came and wiped out all the factoids
[04:35] <[LethAL] > :O
[04:35] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, ok, I could finally mount the cd
[04:35] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: cool
[04:35] <johhny> I have the integration package installed, and it shows the default OO.o open / save dialogs
[04:35] <tuxedo_kamen> now, how can I search for updates in it?
[04:35] <Hobbsee> nalioth: all the factoids???
[04:35] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: apt-cdrom and follow the prompts
[04:35] <tuxedo_kamen> (if you are wondering, I got help in http://www.frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/5.04/index.html#mountunmountisofileswithoutburning )
[04:35] <nalioth> Hobbsee: just some of the more used ones
[04:35] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: and that matches "uname -a"?
[04:36] <Hobbsee> nalioth: ah right
[04:36] <tyler_durden> 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Thu Oct 6 10:46:15 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:36] <macgeek> nalioth, do i check the md5 on the actual cd? or the image before burning?
[04:36] <egon_spengler> iso
[04:36] <nalioth> macgeek: you've supposedly already checked the iso image on your HD, check the burnt cd now
[04:37] <mister_roboto> tyler: sounds to me like you need to download the headers for the 386 version
[04:37] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, can't seem to work... i mounted it to /mnt/test , now what should I do? " apt-cdrom /mnt/test/ " doesn't seem to work
[04:37] <tyler_durden> how?
[04:37] <macgeek> nalioth: aight
[04:37] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: you should see them in the apt-cache list  (both 686 version and not)
[04:37] <sunshine> hi imn tryin to set up a webcam on my computer i checked on ubuntu website it suggest i get spca5xx but ilve tryed download it off it website but that doesn't help does anyone know
[04:37] <silasj> hey, I can't run gnome-art
[04:38] <silasj> it seems asking for gtk2...
[04:38] <tyler_durden> what exactly do i type?
[04:38] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: that is, both a 386 and 686 version should show in the apt-cache
[04:38] <silasj> But I installed correctly ruby and gtk extension for ruby.
[04:38] <mister_roboto> apt-get install linux-headers-386
[04:38] <johhny> http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/Screenshot-Save-as.jpg That is what I get for the breezy save as with the openoffice.org2-gnome package installed
[04:38] <tyler_durden> ok installing
[04:38] <tyler_durden> after that i should try to install the nvidia drivers again?
[04:38] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: you're running 386 but you only had source for the 686 version
[04:39] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: yes, again
[04:39] <tyler_durden> ok thanks
[04:39] <tyler_durden> brb i guess lol
[04:40] <pupil> nalioth I'm not sure why its not working
[04:40] <exarkun> I've installed linux-image-2.6.12-8-686 and linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 from breezy.  Both of them fail to boot, complaining about a missing /sbin/evms_activate.  There is indeed no evms_activate on either initrd.  What's up?
[04:40] <nalioth> pupil: because it's very beta?
[04:40] <pupil> nalioth, probably
[04:40] <johhny> Does anyone happen to know the openoffice.org maintainer for breezy?
[04:40] <Lea> hello, can someone help me?
[04:40] <pupil> nalioth, I'm gonna try and do what the install requets
[04:40] <nalioth> pupil: it'd be nice if it was GPL'd
[04:40] <nalioth> pupil: make backups
[04:40] <pupil> what is GPL ?
[04:40] <pupil> ohh
[04:41] <pupil> Gnu Public
[04:41] <nalioth> pupil: i say again. make backups
[04:41] <Lea> ?
[04:41] <pupil> lol
[04:41] <pupil> I willl
[04:41] <pupil> I will abck up .Xinitrc
[04:41] <nalioth> Lea: if you ask a question, someone may answer you
[04:41] <Hobbsee> Lea: dont ask to ask, just ask
[04:41] <pupil> where do I find the .xinitrc?
[04:41] <Lea> thanks
[04:41] <Lea> well
[04:41] <Lea> i'm new on Linux
[04:42] <Lea> and i'm trying to install Nvidia drivers (i feel like stupid, asking this things)
[04:42] <nalioth> pupil: "locate .xinitrc" but usually it's in your ~/
[04:42] <Hobbsee> !nvidia
[04:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Lea about nvidia
[04:42] <IcemanV9> johhny: i don't understand the problem that you are having. it looks fine (looking at ur screenshot)
[04:42] <Lea> but i don't know how to close th eX-Server aplications
[04:42] <regeya> weekends.
[04:42] <johhny> IcemanV9: No it doesn't. Openoffice has native gnome open and save dialogs
[04:42] <mahangu> mornin boys
[04:42] <pupil> nalioth, locate not working
[04:42] <mahangu> (and girls)
[04:42] <junbal2005> hi everyone, i'm an newby here, anyone there like to help me ...?
[04:43] <johhny> IcemanV9: With the openoffice.org2-gnome package installed. Which I do
[04:43] <oxez> junbal2005: ask
[04:43] <mister_roboto> Lea: choose a "console login" from the initial login screen
[04:43] <Lea> but i don't know how to close th X-Server aplications, how i do it?
[04:43] <tuxedo_kamen> well, anyone knows how to get the new releases from an *.iso I just mounted?
[04:43] <nalioth> pupil: read the whole sentence
[04:43] <nalioth> junbal2005: ask
[04:43] <johhny> IcemanV9: It makes OO.o the only app that sticks out compared to everything else
[04:43] <junbal2005> i have turned on automatic apt update but winetools update cannot be found, why is that?
[04:44] <junbal2005> it says here file not found in wine.sourceforge.net or anywhere else
[04:44] <pupil> nalioth, I don't see it there.
[04:44] <nalioth> junbal2005: b/c there isnt one?
[04:44] <nalioth> pupil: make one
[04:45] <junbal2005> no, i'm alone in my net cafe, all closed up so no disturbance from customers
[04:45] <McScruff> lo
[04:45] <tuxedo_kamen> o/
[04:45] <winner> =o
[04:45] <oxez> :o
[04:45] <Madpilot> ?
[04:45] <winner> ?
[04:45] <McScruff> on a storage hdd (mounted at /Storage) it has a .Trash-0 folder how can i delete this
[04:45] <nalioth> take the art to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:45] <tuxedo_kamen> anyone knows how to get the new releases from an *.iso I just mounted?
[04:46] <oxez> sorry nalioth
[04:46] <pupil> nalioth, for some reason,. whenever I press Ctrl Alt Backspace,. I don't get the login screen ,.  it loses X server connection and I get command prompt login
[04:46] <tyler_durden> ok here it is.. again
[04:46] <junbal2005> As I have said I tweaked some config file to insert a cron or something to turn on apt update
[04:46] <regeya> art...?
[04:46] <durt> thats whats supposed to happen pupil
[04:46] <pupil> durt, No,. it only happens recently,.
[04:46] <junbal2005> now apt-update got stock up with winetools, would you mind helping me here nalioth...
[04:47] <tyler_durden> 1st it said that i skipped a gcc version check, i said ok continue, then it said i have rifavb installed and that could cause instability, i said ok. then it started installing and half way through it said unable to build kernel module and i had to quit
 are u still there ?
[04:47] <pupil> usually,. when I do that,. it returns to a log in screen giving me the option to choose my sessoin,. etc
[04:47] <nalioth> durt: www.xpde.com is responsible for pupils diffeculties
[04:47] <IcemanV9> johhny: i don't think it is gnome-related. that's what it supposed to look like. (i just checked out OOo on other box[fbsd] )
[04:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> hello to all.
[04:47] <pupil> nalioth, lol
[04:47] <oxez> is there anything special to do to turn on automatic updates ? It never worked for me
[04:47] <nalioth> junbal2005: if there is no update, it wont find one
[04:47] <durt> oh command prompt login - i should read better
[04:47] <tyler_durden> mister_roboto ^^
[04:47] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: does the log tell you why?  the nvidia installer has a log in /var/log
[04:47] <junbal2005> what about, do you know any special repository that might have been hidden somewhere?
[04:48] <Chinaman> can someone help me with ALSA?
[04:48] <Madpilot> oxez: when there are updates, Ubuntu will display a red icon in your notification area; I'm not sure there is a way to run those automatically
[04:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell junbal2005 about sources
[04:48] <tyler_durden> ill check one second
[04:48] <oxez> Madpilot: I mean I don't get the red icon
[04:48] <dandel1984> i'm havin issues with my system after i start it after i configure my wireless interfaces for autosetup... it refues to let me into gnome.
[04:48] <Hobbsee> !tell Chinaman about alsa
[04:48] <Malaprop> Since installing Ubuntu, I can't play DVDs anymore. libdvdread is complaining it can't open /dev/hda2 (my root drive), when it should be trying to open /dev/hdd. Any ideas?
[04:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, if i can
[04:48] <exarkun> What does ubuntu use evms for?  Why does its initrd try to activate it?
[04:48] <johhny> IcemanV9: No it isn't. Go to Tools --> Options --> General. Uncheck "Use Openoffice.org Dialogs" and you will have native gnome dialogs. A buddy pointed that out
[04:48] <tyler_durden> mister_roboto what is the exact file name?
[04:48] <Madpilot> oxez: it's only going to appear when there are updates; I had some in Hoary about two days ago, none waiting now...
[04:48] <EasterSunshine> hey is ktorrent anywhere in the repos? i can't find it
[04:49] <Chinaman> oooh
[04:49] <mister_roboto>  /var/log/nvidia-installer.log
[04:49] <oxez> Madpilot: apt-get upgrade shows me 20 updates..
[04:49] <tyler_durden> i dont have that there
[04:49] <nalioth> EasterSunshine: check at packages.ubuntu.com
[04:49] <johhny> IcemanV9: NWF aka Native Widget Framework is one of the big improvements on OO.o2
[04:49] <tyler_durden> oh found it
[04:49] <tyler_durden> mister_roboto can i send you the file?
[04:49] <Kagen> Hey, can someone help me with compiling programs? it's obvious i'll need to know how to do this to get ANYWHERE on linux
[04:49] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: use paste bin
[04:50] <Chinaman> sonny_wertzik & hobbsee: i need to set it up for emu10k1
[04:50] <nalioth> Kagen: step one: install "build-essential"
[04:50] <tyler_durden> !tell tylerdurden about paste bin
[04:50] <Kagen> do I enter that in the terminal? nalioth?
[04:50] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, what sound card?
[04:50] <mister_roboto> !past bin
[04:50] <ubotu> No idea, mister_roboto
[04:50] <mister_roboto> !paste bin
[04:50] <tyler_durden> !pastebin
[04:50] <ubotu> mister_roboto: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:50] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:50] <nalioth> Kagen: use synaptic or "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:50] <soultaker> hello to all
[04:50] <TiMiDo> hello soultaker
[04:50] <Chinaman> sonny: audigy 2 value 7.1 24-bit
[04:50] <tuxedo_kamen> >_>
[04:50] <tuxedo_kamen> anyone knows how to get the new releases from an *.iso I just mounted?
[04:50] <IcemanV9> johhny: interesting! didn't really look into the options. now, i see what you're saying. :)
[04:50] <nalioth> tyler_durden: PLEASE msg ubotu yourself
[04:50] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, hehe i have the same card
 thanks for introducing me to ubotu....:-) smart guy this guy...
[04:50] <silasj> any idea about gnome-art problem?
[04:51] <soultaker> can anyone hellp me with Xmms is not playing any mp3 just keep hang
[04:51] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, whats the problem exactly?
[04:51] <EasterSunshine> ok i've installed bittorrent...and this is gonna sound stupid...but how do i use it now that its installed?
[04:51] <Chinaman> where do i go after i do this: Type the following in a terminal: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source && cd /usr/src && sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source && cd modules/alsa-driver && sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build KVERS=$(uname -r) && sudo dpkg -i ../alsa-modules*.deb
[04:51] <silasj> it seems requiring gtk extension, but it is already installed.
[04:51] <tyler_durden> mister_robot im not sure what you're exactly looking for from the log
[04:51] <n0odl3> does anyone know what this means
[04:51] <nalioth> n0odl3: dont paste
[04:51] <Kagen> k, step one is done, I used sudo apt-get install build-essential in the terminal
[04:51] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: some sort of error saying why it failed!
[04:51] <n0odl3> oh ok
[04:52] <n0odl3> when i run esd
[04:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, i mean whats the problem...you get no sound at all?
[04:52] <n0odl3> i get this
[04:52] <nalioth> n0odl3: just give us a link to the pastebin
[04:52] <tyler_durden> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2900
[04:52] <Chinaman> sonny: i remember there's another step after i do that
[04:52] <n0odl3> /dev/dsp: no such directory
[04:52] <n0odl3> does this mean my sound card is not in
[04:52] <n0odl3> ?
[04:52] <Chinaman> grep modprobe something
[04:52] <macgeek> nalioth: well, the cd's md5 is different from the image. what should i do?
[04:53] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: sounds to me like you need to disable that rivafb module from loading
[04:53] <Kagen> what do I do now that I have done step one?
[04:54] <EasterSunshine> what is the command to run bittorrent? cause it sure as hell isn't "bittorrent"
[04:54] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: is that the  entire log?
[04:54] <soultaker> Can anyone tell why xmms is not respponding i just reinstall again
[04:54] <Liu> hi.. I can't get my Intel pro wireless 2000 working with ubuntu.. when I choose accesspoint and enter the password and are trying to connect, I keep getting this errors: eth1: decryption failed res=-2 and eth1: WEP decryption failed ICV mismatch (key 0)
[04:54] <tyler_durden> how? and after that it says it was unable to build kernel module
[04:54] <nalioth> macgeek: is the iso image md5 a match for the one on the website?
[04:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, i dunno...but i can show you how i set mine up when i couldnt get any sound...audigy 2 value is different then other audigy 2's i think
[04:54] <tyler_durden> no, entire log is HUGE
[04:54] <egon_spengler> EasterSunshine: Usually the bt client is associated with the .torrent mimetype in your browser
[04:54] <Chinaman> yeah i know
[04:54] <tyler_durden> and it must be under 80 lines so i cant pastse it all
[04:54] <Chinaman> sonny: show me please
[04:54] <mister_roboto>  tyler_durden: post the last 100 lines or so
[04:54] <Madpilot> EasterSunshine: if you click on a .torrent file in your browser, it should be opened in your torrent app automagically
[04:54] <mister_roboto> ok, the last 80 lines
[04:54] <tyler_durden> ok
[04:54] <macgeek> nalioth: the iso image md5 matches the one on the website, but the cd md5 doesnt
[04:54] <nalioth> Kagen: i can help you compile. but it will be in an hour or two or tomorrow
[04:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, 1 sec ill get you a great link to specific info u can cut and paste commands...1 second
[04:54] <Kagen> ah, you're busy
[04:55] <n0odl3> so does anyone know what that means?
[04:55] <nalioth> macgeek: then burn it differently, but dont use Disk Image (and keep it sloooooow)
[04:55] <Kagen> i'll hang around here for now, if you leave, i'll get on tomorrow, thanks.
[04:55] <tyler_durden> last lines r a mess
[04:55] <macgeek> nalioth: dont use Disk Image? whats that?
[04:55] <ubuntuking> hello all
[04:55] <EasterSunshine> Madpilot, egon_spengler: nope, i just installed bittorrent and when i click torrents in konqueror, it asks me with application i should run it with and bittorrent isn't in the list
[04:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Chinaman about javadeb
[04:56] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden:  well I would need to see the part where the build is failing to have a clue
[04:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Sonny_Wertzik about javadeb
[04:56] <EasterSunshine> oh maybe i should restart konqueror
[04:56] <macgeek> nalioth: im burning with FireStarter FX on speed 1
[04:56] <ubuntuking> just type in the name of the client you are using
[04:56] <Madpilot> EasterSunshine: Gnome BitTorrents should be installed by default?
[04:56] <Kagen> people are damn busy in here, lol
[04:56] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden:  so far you haven't shown that
[04:56] <tyler_durden> sorry but the log is too big to paste there, can you accept the file?
[04:56] <tuxedo_kamen> -_-
[04:56] <nalioth> tyler_durden: pastebin it
[04:56] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, can I pm you?
[04:56] <Madpilot> !tell tyler_durden about pastebin
[04:56] <EasterSunshine> Madpilot: i did this wierd thing when i did a server install and then installed kubuntu-desktop over it, lots of packages are missing
[04:56] <Chinaman> nalioth: no need
[04:57] <silasj> Have anybody installed gnome-art under breezy?
[04:57] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, heres the link read what the guy ubuntu-geek has to say......     http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21097.html
[04:57] <tyler_durden> it must be under 80 lines, my log must be about 400
[04:57] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:57] <EasterSunshine> Madpilot: i did apt-cache search torrent and only bittorrent and qtorrent came up
[04:57] <ubuntuking> u have azureus which i use too
[04:57] <mister_roboto>  tyler_durden:  can't you just scroll down in the log until you see the build failure and show us that?
[04:57] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, I just wanted your help with my current problem, but I can't seem to get any answers in here! >_>
[04:57] <Madpilot> EasterSunshine: ah, oddness... I have no idea; I'm running a stock Hoary install here...
[04:57] <macgeek> nalioth: whats Disk Image? im burning with FireStarter FX
[04:57] <ubuntuking> and bittornado
[04:58] <tyler_durden> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2901
[04:58] <nalioth> macgeek: Disk Image is the OSX disk utility thing (i'm tired )
[04:58] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, did u get that link?
[04:58] <tyler_durden> here now it works
[04:58] <EasterSunshine> ubuntuking: none of those are in the repos, and azureus is like soo java-ish and slow and stuff
[04:58] <ubuntuking> EasterSunshine, add the repos
[04:58] <EasterSunshine> i'm still surprised no one packaged ktorrent, i would do it myself if i knew how to
[04:58] <ubuntuking> EasterSunshine, or download from the debian website
[04:59] <nalioth> EasterSunshine: are all your repos enabled? you should see bittornado
[04:59] <macgeek> nalioth: oh, its called Disk Utility. that can't burn ISOs (ive tried, it didnt work) so i use FireStarter FX
[04:59] <EasterSunshine> ubuntuking: i searched on packages.ubuntu.com, only three hits came up, bittorrent, bittorrent-gui, and qtorrent
[04:59] <Kagen> Nalioth, do you have aim or msn?
[04:59] <nalioth> Kagen: gtalk
[04:59] <TiMiDo> !gtalk
[04:59] <ubotu> TiMiDo: Are you smoking crack?
[04:59] <Kagen> gtalk...
[04:59] <EasterSunshine> and my sources.list is straight from ubotu's pastebin link
[04:59] <ubuntuking> EasterSunshine, did u enable the extra repos
[04:59] <TiMiDo> ;P
[04:59] <ubuntuking> EasterSunshine, i can email it to u
[05:00] <nalioth> google talk
[05:00] <Kagen> Yeah I know what that is
[05:00] <Kagen> I don't have it =\
[05:00] <EasterSunshine> email me the package? that's wierd
[05:00] <macgeek> nalioth: so what should i do? i burned it on the lowest speed and it installed most of the way and its giving a kernel install error
[05:00] <Kagen> ah, you only voice chat..
[05:00] <ubuntuking> azureus, if u cannot find it i can email it to u
[05:00] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, are u there?
[05:00] <nalioth> macgeek: visit sourceforge.net and find another burning program for OSX (also fink and darwinports have cdburners)
[05:01] <EasterSunshine> ubuntuking: i know about azureus, i have bad experiences with it
[05:01] <ubuntuking> EasterSunshine, which client did u install
[05:01] <EasterSunshine> ubuntuking: bittorrent and bittorrent-gui
[05:01] <macgeek> nalioth: alright i'll try that
[05:01] <EasterSunshine> i'll try qtorrent now
[05:01] <EasterSunshine> except its based on python and that makes me feel uncomfortable
[05:02] <tyler_durden> mister_robot, see anything?
[05:02] <mister_roboto>  tyler_durden:  hmmm... looks like agp.c will not compile
[05:02] <n0odl3> so does anyone know what that means?
[05:02] <nemopaice> I was asking about wine a few minutes ago. I got it to work. ..... I am using Ubutu 5.10, and incase anyone is interested I found (IMO) an easier way to run the programs, .... I went to the folder and to the program and right clicked on it and just hit "Open with Wine" ..... Just thought I would say it incase anyone else would be interested
[05:02] <tyler_durden> what does that mean?
[05:02] <Madpilot> noirequus: 'black horse' in bastardized half-French/half-Latin?
[05:02] <mister_roboto> /tmp/selfgz8023/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c:48: error
[05:02] <mister_roboto>     : syntax error before '*' token
[05:02] <mister_roboto> can you install the older gcc and try with that?
[05:03] <tyler_durden> 3.4?
[05:03] <mister_roboto> yes
[05:03] <goh> May I know how I can direct synaptic to look for the hoary cd for updates in my cdrw drv? Cos It looks for it in my cdrom drv, which is faulty
[05:03] <tyler_durden> ok
[05:03] <ubuntuking> EasterSunshine, http://debian.ihug.com.au/debian/pool/contrib/a/azureus/
[05:03] <ubuntuking> EasterSunshine, click the link
[05:03] <Madpilot> goh: you can remove the CD from your sources list
[05:04] <EasterSunshine> what did i say about azureus...? =(
[05:04] <goh> Madpilot:Ok... then wat's next?
[05:04] <ubuntuking> EasterSunshine, u don't like it???
[05:04] <EasterSunshine> oh well, thx anyway ubuntuking, i will look around for other torrenting clients here
[05:04] <Sonny_Wertzik> hehehe chinaman is tring that link i gave him hehehe
[05:05] <tuxedo_kamen> anyone knows how to get the new releases (to add to synaptic) from an *.iso I just mounted?
[05:05] <luckyaba> firefox wont display text.. some have any ideas to get it back?
[05:05] <Madpilot> goh: next after what? I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do...
[05:06] <EasterSunshine> the correct way of installing from deb is sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb, correct?
[05:06] <VoX> yes
[05:06] <EasterSunshine> it makes me unhappy when i click a deb and konqueror opens it in a text editor...
[05:07] <VoX> haha
[05:07] <tuxedo_kamen> lololololol
[05:08] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, mount the iso at /mnt/cdrom and run -> apt-cdrom add
[05:08] <tyler_durden> when i change it to 3.4 it says "gcc-3.4: command not found" during the install, mister_roboto
[05:08] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: did you, in fact, install it?
[05:08] <Chinaman> sonny: doesn't work
[05:08] <Chinaman> crimsun: i need your help
[05:08] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: ls /usr/bin/gcc*
[05:09] <tyler_durden> /usr/bin/gcc  /usr/bin/gcc-4.0  /usr/bin/gccbug  /usr/bin/gccbug-4.0
[05:09] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, did u run alsamixer and after you reboot to turn on the analog/digital output jack?
[05:09] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: ok... well now would be a good time to INSTALL 3.4!   :)
[05:10] <tyler_durden> ha, didnt know i needed to do that, thanks for being patient and all
[05:10] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: is it available in the cache?
[05:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, did u run alsamixer after your reboot and turn on the analog/digital output jack?
[05:10] <EasterSunshine> what is the command that updates the cache on the root filesystem so that i can do `locate` command and get results of recently made files?
[05:10] <tyler_durden> how can i check?
[05:11] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: apt-cache search gcc-3.4
[05:11] <slew> hiya... where can/how can i get libstdc++.so.5
[05:11] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: i just looked, it's there
[05:11] <Kagen> hey, are there any guides out there I can just read to learn how to do stuff on ubuntu?
[05:11] <tuxedo_kamen> how can I rename a folder?
[05:11] <Amaranth> tuxedo_kamen: right click on it
[05:11] <tyler_durden> do i install the base package?
[05:11] <tuxedo_kamen> Kagen, http://ubuntuguide.org/
[05:11] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: get gcc-3.4
[05:11] <Kagen> tuxedo_kamen, thanks
[05:12] <pupil> If I create a .xinitrc where do I save it?
[05:12] <chavo> EasterSunshine, sudo updatedb
[05:12] <tuxedo_kamen> amaranth, that doesn't work on /mnt/
[05:12] <tyler_durden> ok brb again :D
[05:12] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: or gcc-34.-base    sorry, i don't know exactly what is in just "base"
[05:13] <pupil> mister_roboto, do you know where you would save a .xinitrc file?
[05:13] <mister_roboto> pupil: your home dir
[05:13] <pupil> Does anyone know where you save a .xinitrc file?
[05:13] <pupil> oh,. ok
[05:13] <pupil> cool
[05:14] <Chinaman> sonny: alsamixer didn't exist
[05:14] <tuxedo_kamen> chavo, it didn't worked
[05:14] <tuxedo_kamen> -_-
[05:14] <noirequus> pupil: in your home directory
[05:14] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, did you load the kernel headers?
[05:15] <tuxedo_kamen> listen.... my problem is... I have warty, and now I downloaded the *.iso of breezy and I wanted to upgrade, can anyone please tell me how to do it?
[05:15] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, did you mount the iso at /mnt/cdrom?
[05:15] <tuxedo_kamen> yeah
[05:15] <slew> tuxedo_kamen, just run the install but dont format /home
[05:16] <tuxedo_kamen> :| i can't run the install, since I didn't burned it to a cd
[05:16] <slew> ahh start there. =] 
[05:16] <mister_roboto> tuxedo_kamen: if you have net access, why not just do it directly over the net?
[05:16] <exarkun> you don't need to burn it
[05:16] <chavo> he already downloaded the cd
[05:16] <mister_roboto> chavo: true :)
[05:17] <Chinaman> sonny_wertzik: did everything and nothing
[05:17] <exarkun> you can just add the cdrom as a package source
[05:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman,  u kinda gotta follow that guys directions to a T
[05:17] <exarkun> and dist-upgrade
[05:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, did u run alsamixer after your reboot and turn on the analog/digital output jack?
[05:17] <Chinaman> i'll figure it out some other time
[05:17] <slew> anyone know where/how i get libstdc++.so.5?
[05:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, oh thats right no alsamixer
[05:17] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, what happens when you run apt-cdrom add ?
[05:17] <exarkun> slew: `apt-cache search'
[05:17] <Chinaman> can you send me the link again?
[05:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, im stumped ...sorry
[05:17] <Chinaman> i probably missed something
[05:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, ya sure
[05:18] <Kagen> WOW, this guide is awesome
[05:18] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, heres the link read what the guy ubuntu-geek has to say......     http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21097.html
[05:18] <Chinaman> nvm, i found it
[05:18] <tuxedo_kamen> chavo, I get this error, among others -> E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[05:18] <Chinaman> ah well, thx
[05:18] <tuxedo_kamen> mister_roboto, I can't do it since I have a limit of monthly downloads
[05:18] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, no prob man good luck
[05:18] <mister_roboto> tuxedo_kamen: ahhh  ok.  was just wondering
[05:18] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, I know I've done this, but I think I'm forgetting something
[05:18] <slew> exarkun, that dosent seem to install libstdc++.so.5 =[
[05:18] <chavo> too tired to remember right now :(
[05:19] <exarkun> slew: nope, it doesn't.
[05:19] <exarkun> slew: it searches for packages
[05:19] <exarkun> slew: try `apt-cache search libstdc++'
[05:19] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, dood i had the exact same problem as u and that link fixed it
[05:19] <exarkun> slew: you should see a few packages
[05:19] <tuxedo_kamen> mister_roboto, the download would be around 500 MB, which means... 1/4 of the downloads I can perform per month... :-\
[05:19] <exarkun> slew: pick the one you like best and `apt-get install <name>'
[05:19] <tyler_durden> mister_roboto: this time it didnt mention the gcc check, but it still says that rivafb will cause problems and at 100% of the install it says unable to builld kernel and it quits
[05:19] <exarkun> slew: or run synaptic
[05:19] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, my bad, mount it at /cdrom and it will work
[05:19] <exarkun> slew: and do the same thing with mouse clicks :)
[05:20] <slew> well i put sudo apt-cache search libstdc++.so.5
[05:20] <slew>  and got nothing =[
[05:20] <tuxedo_kamen> -_-
[05:20] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: hmmm  ok let's see the log again
[05:20] <chavo> woops!
[05:20] <tuxedo_kamen> now, how can I remove the mounts I made on /mnt ?
[05:20] <mister_roboto>  tyler_durden: the new log of course :)
[05:20] <chavo> sudo
[05:20] <chavo> woops, sudo umount /mnt/cdrom
[05:20] <Chinaman> sonny: it keeps giving me an error when i do  tar xvjf alsa-driver-1.0.8.tar.bz2
[05:21] <exarkun> slew: It's a search by package name, not by file name.
[05:21] <chavo> then sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /cdrom
[05:21] <exarkun> slew: apt-file is for searching by filename.
[05:21] <chavo> then sudo apt-cdrom add
[05:21] <slew> hehe gotcha.. sorry, just came over from mandriva..
[05:21] <tyler_durden> mister_roboto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2902
[05:21] <tuxedo_kamen> chave, so, afterall where should I mount it?
[05:22] <RockyBurt> hm, why is the gnome-power-manager package so  old in ubuntu ?
[05:22] <chavo> at /cdrom
[05:22] <joetheodd> !juk
[05:22] <ubotu> joetheodd: Are you on ritalin?
[05:22] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, dso just go to the dirctory where u d/l'ed it ---right click it and select extract here
[05:22] <joetheodd> nice..
[05:22] <joetheodd> !tell joetheodd about juk
[05:23] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: same problem :\    wtf is on line 48 anway (file: /tmp/selfgz7964/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c)
[05:23] <tyler_durden> i have no clue heh
[05:23] <slew> thanks exarkun, really appreciate it.
[05:23] <exarkun> slew: :)
[05:23] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: ummm look at it
[05:24] <tyler_durden> lie 48? it says something about ftp
[05:24] <macgeek> nalioth: i can't find any good iso burners... any suggestions?
[05:24] <slew> everyone in the room asking questions should thank their helper!
[05:24] <tyler_durden> or you want me to actually access the file?
[05:24] <IcemanV9> RockyBurt: fwiw, check out at backports .. maybe, there is newer version?
[05:24] <chavo> tyler_durden, why are you installing such an old driver?
[05:24] <tyler_durden> its best for my card
[05:24] <Chinaman> sonny: negative, can't extract because i don't have "proper permissions"
[05:24] <tyler_durden> the FX series
[05:25] <chavo> it won't build against current kernels
[05:25] <tyler_durden> are you srious?!
[05:25] <chavo> afaik
[05:25] <tuxedo_kamen> chavo, I get this error:  'Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)'E: It wasn't possible to open the file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fHoary%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages - open (13 Permission Denied)
[05:25] <tyler_durden> it definatly wont install i know that
[05:25] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, where did u DL it to?
[05:25] <tyler_durden> is there a way to install it?
[05:25] <pupil> other than xpde,. is there another window manager that looks like windows?
[05:26] <pupil> ohh,. and I got it up and running,.
[05:26] <pupil> but it crashed,. lol
[05:26] <Amaranth> tuxedo_kamen: you need to use sudo to install it
[05:26] <tuxedo_kamen> :|
[05:26] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: is that the latest driver from nvidia's site?
[05:26] <Amaranth> tyler_durden: why not just install the one that comes with ubuntu?
[05:26] <tyler_durden> no, its an older one, which i want to use on purpose
[05:27] <tyler_durden> the older 66's are the best for my FX card
[05:27] <mister_roboto> Amaranth: he probably wants 3d accel to work :)
[05:27] <tyler_durden> newer ones give lower performance on the FX cards
[05:27] <joetheodd> !rythmbox
[05:27] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, joetheodd
[05:27] <joetheodd> !Rhythmbox
[05:27] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, it's not working for me now either :/
[05:27] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, joetheodd
[05:27] <Amaranth> mister_roboto: err, ubuntu comes with the binary drivers from ati and nvidia themselves that give you 3d acceleration
[05:27] <chavo> joetheodd, take it easy on the bot :)
[05:27] <joetheodd> ok chavo, lol
[05:28] <chavo> hehe
[05:28] <Chinaman> does anyone know how to get ubuntulog to give me the log for october 1?
[05:28] <joetheodd> anyhow, Rhythmbox doesn't seem to be able to play any of my songs
[05:28] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, when u use terminal and u do tar xvjf or whatever u said try using    sudo tar xvjf whatever
[05:28] <mister_roboto> amaranth: in breezy?  the one in hoary used to SUCK
[05:28] <Amaranth> mister_roboto: it's the best way to get them as they are more likely to keep working throughout ubuntu security updates
[05:28] <chavo> joetheodd, that's odd
[05:28] <tuxedo_kamen> oh, I could finally do it! :D
[05:28] <joetheodd> It says there is no plugin installed to play an MP3
[05:28] <goh> May I know how I can direct synaptic to look for the hoary cd for updates in my cdrw drv? Cos It looks for it in my cdrom drv, which is faulty. I need to install cups. I have removed the cd source from the repositry in synaptic but this causes synaptic to update from the internet. I do not want that as it is a big download
[05:28] <joetheodd> Or something to that effect.
[05:28] <Amaranth> !info breezy nvidia-glx
[05:28] <bur[n] er> !tell joetheodd about mp3
[05:28] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, o_0
[05:29] <chavo> yay!!!!
[05:29] <joetheodd> !tell joetheodd about restricted
[05:29] <Amaranth> err
[05:29] <tuxedo_kamen> I mounted it as root
[05:29] <mister_roboto> Amaranth: that's good to know!   glad they finally addressed that
[05:29] <Amaranth> !info nvidia-glx breezy
[05:29] <tuxedo_kamen> and then used apt-get cdrom
[05:29] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7667-0ubuntu22 (breezy), Packaged size: 3012 kB, Installed size: 10036 kB
[05:29] <bur[n] er> joetheodd: just msg ubotu ;)
[05:29] <joetheodd> k =p
[05:29] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, so it worked?
[05:29] <tuxedo_kamen> yeah
[05:29] <Amaranth> mister_roboto: ubuntu has 7667 available with a couple clicks or one console command :)
[05:29] <tyler_durden> sigh well i guess ill have to give up, mister_roboto, how do i get the nvidia drivers from apt-get?
[05:29] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: does that driver work?
[05:30] <chavo> cool, I knew it could be done because I did it about a month ago
[05:30] <tyler_durden> which?
[05:30] <Furesho> okay, i'm in the middle of settin up ubuntu on another comp. i'm aimin for a dual boot, so i set up the partition for ubuntu... but i need to know b4 i go further. should i turn the "bootable flag" on?
[05:30] <Amaranth> tyler_durden: a couple of fps plus or minus doesn't make much of a difference
[05:30] <mwright1> IS there anyone here who can get a change before the final cut is out,
[05:30] <chavo> just didn't remember the exact steps I took
[05:30] <tyler_durden> well it could be 10-20
[05:30] <tyler_durden> so for me it does, when ur playing at about 30-40 fps
[05:30] <Amaranth> tyler_durden: in actual games or in glxgears?
[05:30] <mwright1> The Live CD should contain OOrc2 not OO1.1.4 (ancient museum piece that it is)
[05:30] <tyler_durden> game
[05:31] <tyler_durden> in gears i got 23xx in glxgears
[05:31] <mwright1> It's crazy that the win32 version of oo being distributed to 1000s and 1000s is years old
[05:31] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: well in the cache it's called nvidia-glx, as Amaranth wrote
[05:31] <tyler_durden> oh didnt see, i pretyt much only look for my name
[05:31] <goh> Anyone knows how to add a repositry entry in synaptic for my Hoary cd in my cdrw drv?
[05:31] <mwright1> This is going to be a huge distribution effort and is a big mistake to waste time, money and resources on giving people a diminished view of opensource software
[05:31] <tyler_durden> ok ill download that i guess
[05:31] <mister_roboto> i didn't know they finally got around to including these drivers, that's great
[05:31] <Amaranth> mwright1: breezy has the oo2 prerelease version, the windows version on the live cd is old and already has a bug filed on it
[05:31] <tyler_durden> thanks a lot for your help and trying mister_roboto
[05:31] <Sonny_Wertzik> Chinaman, im going out for a smoke BRB
[05:31] <mister_roboto> still curious what's on line 48 of that file :)
[05:32] <mwright1> Openoffice m2 should be on their
[05:32] <tyler_durden> of which file? ill look
[05:32] <mwright1> THis is like $$$ and sense
[05:32] <tyler_durden> i forgot the file name
[05:32] <Furesho> ummm, would it be rude to ask twice?
[05:32] <Amaranth> mwright1: Give me money and I'll make it happen. ;)
[05:32] <bur[n] er> mwright1: conversely, oo.o BETA may contain serious bugs yet unfound
[05:32] <Amaranth> Furesho: Not if your question is ~5 minutes old and unanswered.
[05:32] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: /tmp/selfgz7964/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c   should still be there
[05:32] <mwright1> it's well tested -- thousands of Fedora Core 4 installations all over the place
[05:33] <Furesho> ah. thx.
[05:33] <tuxedo_kamen> chavo, but now I have another problem.... how can I remove all the packages I don't use? do I have to do it by hand?
[05:33] <mwright1> don't discount how many desktop implementations oof FC4 are out there.. I run them
[05:33] <bur[n] er> mwright1: then why is it still "beta" ??
[05:33] <mazatl> robot from bp?
[05:33] <mwright1> and I also run oo2 in desktop environment for months
[05:33] <tyler_durden> i dont have selfgz7964 in /tmp
[05:33] <mwright1> cause they are too cautious
[05:33] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, well yeah
[05:33] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: ahhh... must have removed on cleanup
[05:33] <kevogod> Well, Ubuntu hasn't lost popularity due to this nature.
[05:33] <kevogod> So you lose.
[05:34] <tyler_durden> sorry. well thank you again. im gonna go install the newer drivers
[05:34] <tuxedo_kamen> chavo, but is it possible that I remove something that will make my ubuntu don't work anymore?
[05:34] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: i guess that other post i saw was right about compile problems on that driver.    but if the included ones work, you shoudl be fine :)
[05:34] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: np
[05:34] <Amaranth> mwright1: The Windows versions of apps on the LiveCD isn't that important, it's the version ubuntu itself has that matters.
[05:34] <tyler_durden> bye
[05:34] <mwright1> i don't lose
[05:34] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, no, it won't remove anything necessary for the computer to work
[05:34] <mwright1> It's very important
[05:34] <mwright1> and if oo for windows is beta is your argument
[05:34] <mwright1> then what the hell is it doing in ubuntu
[05:35] <tuxedo_kamen> oh, ok
[05:35] <mwright1> you contradicted yourselrf
[05:35] <kevogod> OO 1.1.5 is not in beta.
[05:35] <chavo> there are some patches to make 6629 compile with 2.6.12
[05:36] <Amaranth> mwright1: No, I didn't. But I really don't feel like discussing this right now.
[05:36] <mwright1> ok 1.1.5 would be 100x smarter than 1.1.4 cause at least it will open .odt
[05:36] <mwright1> don't waste the space which could hold linux apps on the livecd
[05:36] <Amaranth> mwright1: It's just to give people a taste.
[05:36] <mwright1> by putting an outdated incompatible version of openoffice out their.
[05:36] <mwright1> This is collaboration at its worse
[05:37] <mwright1> a bad taste
[05:37] <Amaranth> mwright1: But, as I said, it's ALREADY GETTING FIXED.
[05:37] <mwright1> ditch abi word and put latest oo on their
[05:37] <mwright1> before the release?
[05:37] <Amaranth> Yes.
[05:37] <mwright1> to what version?
[05:37] <Furesho> okay, i'm in the middle of settin up ubuntu on another comp. i'm aimin for a dual boot, so i set up the partition for ubuntu... but i need to know b4 i go further. should i turn the "bootable flag" on?
[05:37] <mwright1> I'm happy if it is getting fixed.  very happy
[05:37] <Amaranth> That I don't know.
[05:37] <mwright1> ok well 2.0 makes sense cause 2.0 comes wth ubuntu
[05:37] <Amaranth> I'd rather ditch OO and keep Abiword. ;)
[05:38] <mwright1> if htey need space ditch audacity or abiword
[05:38] <joetheodd> Hey thanks a lot burner, that should fix my DVD problem too =)
[05:38] <nickrud> does abiword put graphics in the header yet?
[05:38] <mwright1> but the average microsoft fed userbase would be more accepting of oo2 than abi
[05:38] <Amaranth> abiword and friends are the future
[05:38] <bur[n] er> joetheodd: my pleasure :)
[05:38] <paulproteus|lap1> Furesho: The "bootable" flag does not need to be set.
[05:39] <bur[n] er> abiword is super fast fast fast :)
[05:39] <Furesho> ah. cool. thanks ^__^
[05:39] <marco> hola
[05:39] <bur[n] er> too bad it doesn't default to .odt format
[05:39] <paulproteus|lap1> Furesho: The "bootable" flag only affects *really old* motherboards, or MS-DOS.
[05:39] <nickrud> ah, fast, but, does it do the layout I want :)
[05:39] <joetheodd> bur[n] er: I asume that installing the MP3 stuff for Rhythmbox would also fix JuK, right?
[05:39] <paulproteus|lap1> joetheodd: Nope. :)
[05:39] <tuxedo_kamen> this is probably a strange question, but.... is there any application on ubuntu that helps me build my CV?
[05:39] <paulproteus|lap1> !mp3
[05:39] <joetheodd> bur[n] er: JuK simply sits there when I try to play a song.
[05:39] <ubotu> See !restricted
[05:39] <paulproteus|lap1> !restricted
[05:39] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:39] <bur[n] er> joetheodd: i'm not sure about juk... juk isn't based on gstreamer if i recall
[05:39] <bur[n] er> joetheodd: if you're a kde user... try 'amarok' !!!
[05:40] <Amaranth> mwright1: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17125 is marking as needing to be fixed before release
[05:40] <bur[n] er> amarok is far and away the best mp3 playing software on windows/mac/linux
[05:40] <durt> nickrud: what do mean graphics in the headers because i can put pictures in there in version 2.2
[05:40] <marco> I no speak english
[05:40] <joetheodd> bur[n] er: I'm using Gnome, but JuK has a nice interface =). Also, I set it to output to gstreamer because I've heard some bad things about aRtS.
[05:40] <Amaranth> amarok is based on gstreamer, xine, or something else
[05:41] <bur[n] er> if juk uses gstreamer... it should work with the same way rhythmbox does
[05:41] <joetheodd> marco: Spechen sie duestch?
[05:41] <Amaranth> joetheodd: What's wrong with Rhythmbox?
[05:41] <nickrud> durt, then it does now? I'll take a look, thanks.
[05:41] <tuxedo_kamen> joetheodd, he was spanish...
[05:41] <shuveb-home> is there a utility to see/set startup services?
[05:41] <joetheodd> Amaranth: It doesn't have MP3 support, but bur[n] er helped me with that.
[05:42] <tuxedo_kamen> is there any application on ubuntu that helps me build my CV?
[05:42] <pupil> is it possible to put icewm on ubuntu ?
[05:42] <tuxedo_kamen> well, brb
[05:42] <Amaranth> joetheodd: Yeah, you just need to add the packages. They can't ship with MP3 support out-of-the-box due to patent issues.
[05:42] <bur[n] er> pupil: sure
[05:42] <kevogod> bur[n] er, Go on and on. I will listen.
[05:42] <pupil> can I use synaptic to put it on?
[05:42] <Amaranth> pupil: Sure, if you want a barebones setup boot the installer with the 'server' option then just install what you want from the console.
[05:42] <pupil> or do i have to do the hoacky poakey?
[05:42] <joetheodd> kevogod: I wont. =p
[05:43] <Amaranth> pupil: Or you can just leave what you have and install it with synaptic.
[05:43] <bur[n] er> pupil: synaptic should work fine... make sure you have universe & multiverse
[05:43] <pupil> bur[n] er, Yeah, I do
[05:43] <joetheodd> pupil: Do the hokey pokie, because that would be cool, and then try searching in synaptic
[05:43] <pupil> bur[n] er, Then I can add a theme to it right?
[05:43] <bur[n] er> lol @ joetheodd
[05:43] <bur[n] er> pupil: sure... nothing's stopping you
[05:44] <pupil> joetheodd, If I screwup can you help me out,.
[05:44] <cronos3> #ubuntu
[05:44] <pupil> joetheodd, I don't mind the dance, But I'll need help getting up if I trip
[05:44] <cronos3> hi to all
[05:44] <joetheodd> pupil: Sure.
[05:44] <cronos3> I have all day trying to install MSN Mercury
[05:44] <pupil> Thank you
[05:44] <bur[n] er> pupil: just install it via synaptic... log out... select the "icewm" session and login :)
[05:44] <joetheodd> hi@cronos3
[05:44] <pupil> bur[n] er, heh,. ok
[05:44] <pupil> will do
[05:45] <cronos3> i have problems with linux library files path
[05:45] <mwright1> Amaranth: That discussion seems to centre around size of the WinFOSS components not what versions
[05:45] <joetheodd> =p
[05:45] <cronos3> its the only library that it doesnt find
[05:45] <cronos3> has somebody been lucky installing Mercury..?
[05:45] <mylastmorning> hi all
[05:46] <cronos3> ubuntu 5.10
[05:46] <LuVUnTu> re dooglus ??? i keep getting a notice to reboot my computer coz a new kernel was installed .... any idea??
[05:46] <mwright1> Putting an incompatible bit of software with the same name out is almost stupid
[05:46] <mylastmorning> Mercury mail server? cronos3?
[05:46] <luckyaba> does apt-get remove.. remove the entire program
[05:46] <mwright1> on the same CD
[05:46] <Amaranth> mwright1: you could try a daily iso and see if the new reduced size stuff also updated things to new versions
[05:46] <bur[n] er> luckyaba: yes... but not the configuration... --purge helps with that
[05:46] <joetheodd> hey everyone, is breezy stable as a system for a non-developer to use on a main box, day to day basis?
[05:47] <bur[n] er> joetheodd: give it a week :P
[05:47] <luckyaba> burn[n] er: what does purge do
[05:47] <joetheodd> luckyaba: It uninstalls it, yes.
[05:47] <mwright1> I'll do that, where are the dailys I'll download and check now
[05:47] <Trashcan> how can i make a complete backup (restore point) before installing this driver? I'm not sure what it's going to overwrite..
[05:47] <joetheodd> bur[n] er, k.
[05:47] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[05:47] <nickrud> joetheodd, yes, it's pretty stable now
[05:47] <bur[n] er> luckyaba: removes configuration :P
[05:47] <joetheodd> luckyaba: IIRC, it deletes the cached packages, yet leaves the programs that are installed.
[05:47] <tuxedo_kamen> listen, I just have one final question... now, how do I remove my previous version?
[05:47] <bur[n] er> Trashcan: use norton ghost? ;)
[05:47] <Trashcan> lol
[05:47] <Trashcan> :(
[05:48] <cronos3> help with MSN Mercury
[05:48] <luckyaba> burn[n] er: so "apt-get remove mozilla-firefox --purge"   ?
[05:48] <bur[n] er> tuxedo_kamen: ??
[05:48] <pfalcone> tuxedo_kamen: what version?
[05:48] <bur[n] er> luckyaba: yepper... or use synaptic and "completely remove"
[05:48] <tuxedo_kamen> for those who don't understand, I just installed the latest version of ubuntu, and now I wanted to remove the previous one!
[05:48] <mwright1> I'm going to email the guy that distributes the winFOSs stuff and ask him
[05:49] <bur[n] er> tuxedo_kamen: you don't need to "uninstall"  as the upgrade overwrites the previous
[05:49] <pfalcone> tuxedo_kamen: you installed the latest version of ubuntu on a different partition?
[05:49] <joetheodd> I got mushrooms I got acid I got tabs and asprin tablets..
[05:49] <CaptainMorgan> Im able to scp files/dir's from my ubuntu TO the University server. where do I look in Ubuntu to scp dir's/files on the University server TO my ubuntu? my hostname is not recognized.. but it's altered, ex: captain@captains:/
[05:49] <tuxedo_kamen> no
[05:49] <tuxedo_kamen> same one
[05:49] <pfalcone> tuxedo_kamen: there's no more previous version then.
[05:49] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, it overwrites the old stuff
[05:49] <tuxedo_kamen> there is!
[05:49] <nickrud> please forgive my ignorance, but just what could be WINFOSS?
[05:49] <CaptainMorgan> do I need my IP or other information?
[05:49] <Amaranth> mwright1: looking
[05:49] <cronos3> mercury messenger 1709, everything works fine, but not the webcam
[05:49] <tuxedo_kamen> it appeared on the manager, when I turn the computer one!
[05:49] <tuxedo_kamen> *on
[05:49] <LuVUnTu> anybody got any ideas why i for several days now i get this notice to reboot again because a new kernel was installed?
[05:49] <chavo> except for the kernel, it keeps the old one just in case
[05:50] <bur[n] er> CaptainMorgan: you need IP... and port 22 needs to be open... and you need openssh-server running on your ubuntu
[05:50] <tuxedo_kamen> yeah, but I want to remove the old one
[05:50] <cronos3> linux library files not found
[05:50] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, why?
[05:50] <luckyaba> burn[n] er: bloody ell. that didn't work. the font are all gone in firefox and im trying to get them back..
[05:50] <Trashcan> ok how about a different question before i go with this driver.... anyone know about (basic) hardware acceleration on a rage mobility?
[05:50] <tuxedo_kamen> I don't like to have it, and I sure need some space! :|
[05:50] <Trashcan> regular ATI drivers do NOT work on the rage
[05:50] <CaptainMorgan> bur[n] er k, thanks.. but openssh-server ? where do I locate that ?
[05:50] <chavo> it's less than 2Mb probably
[05:50] <tuxedo_kamen> no, it's not >_>
[05:50] <bur[n] er> CaptainMorgan: use synaptic and search for openssh
[05:51] <CaptainMorgan> great, thanks
[05:51] <bur[n] er> CaptainMorgan: are you behind a router?
[05:51] <CaptainMorgan> yes
[05:51] <bur[n] er> luckyaba: ??
[05:51] <CaptainMorgan> why ?
[05:51] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1266857 Aug 30 19:14 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-8-k7
[05:51] <cronos3> #Mercury
[05:51] <tuxedo_kamen> ?
[05:51] <bur[n] er> CaptainMorgan: if you are... yo uhave to forward port 22 to your local box
[05:51] <CaptainMorgan> sure.. ok thanks :)
[05:51] <chavo> less than 1.5M
[05:52] <tuxedo_kamen> how can I check that
[05:52] <tuxedo_kamen> ?
[05:52] <luckyaba> burn[n] er: no text.. like my browser doesn't have "file" "view" or anything text even in the webpage itself
[05:52] <durt> thats why i dont use firefox...
[05:52] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, you can remove it but it really doesn't matter.
[05:53] <tuxedo_kamen> yeah, but i want to! :|
[05:53] <nickrud> durt, what do you use?
[05:53] <regeya> I missed something...why don't you use firefox, durt?  not that it matters, naturally, but I'm either thick or something was left out there
[05:53] <[LethAL] > What do I need to play DVD's?
[05:54] <cronos3> ubuntu 5.10, somebody has install Mercury 1709..? need help
[05:54] <durt> everybody has firefox problems (including me), so i use opera, which is less of a hassle
[05:55] <[LethAL] > I don't have firefox problems and I use it :D
[05:55] <tuxedo_kamen> can anyone tell me how to remove it? :|
[05:55] <RockyBurt> hrm, i need wxPython2.6 for python2.3 on ubuntu :(
[05:55] <regeya> ah.
[05:55] <bur[n] er> cronos3: apt-get install gaim ;)
[05:55] <kevogod> I was linked to a Staples site and it present me with and "Upgrade your browser" page. I mean, come on, do some proper detection at least! Epiphany is Gecko so why block Epiphany? Stupid.
[05:55] <kevogod> *presented
[05:56] <cronos3> I have gaim already
[05:56] <regeya> see, durt, it's not that I disrespect your choice, but when you make sweeping statements like "everybody has firefox problems" you just have to expect someone to ask, "who's 'everyone' and what do you define to be 'firefox problems'?"
[05:56] <pfalcone> RockyBurt: why not just grab the source debs and recompile it on your setup?
[05:56] <Madpilot> Firefox mostly seems to have Flash troubles... and those memory leaks, of course...
[05:56] <se1> i don't get any sound output on Breezy, anyone a clue?
[05:56] <cronos3> but wan to see how works the webcam on Mercury
[05:56] <kevogod> Epiphany is a superior browser.
[05:56] <se1> card recognized by alsa
[05:56] <[LethAL] > !start a browser war
[05:56] <se1> all volumes enabled, etc...
[05:56] <cronos3> gaim doesnt have web cam support
[05:56] <regeya> my only current firefox problem is that it integrates well with gnome but not my desktop of choice.
[05:56] <nickrud> all epi needs is save group of tabs to be nirvana :)
[05:56] <luckyaba> regeya: not displaying text.. thats a firefox problem... lol
[05:56] <ubotu> dillo  is way better than konqueror  !
[05:56] <regeya> not displaying text...
[05:56] <kevogod> ubotu, I do not want none of your sass!
[05:56] <ubotu> kevogod: I haven't a clue
[05:57] <regeya> luckyaba, so you get a blank window?
[05:57] <mister_roboto> regeya: you using kde?
[05:57] <luckyaba> regeya: not no text.. literally. not in the toolbars or webpage
[05:57] <Amaranth> mwright1: I can't find them, sorry.
[05:57] <se1> sound worked on hoary
[05:57] <luckyaba> regeya: i can see some of the pictures on some pages
[05:57] <thellama> suse 10.0 is really nice... ubuntu has some catching up to do...
[05:58] <se1> iirc it stopped working after the upgrade to breezy
[05:58] <kevogod> thellama, Breezy will be released on the 13th.
[05:58] <[LethAL] > What do I need to get to be able to play DVD's?
[05:58] <mwright1> amaranth: no probs
[05:58] <mwright1> there is a tar.gz on the bug
[05:58] <tuxedo_kamen> can anyone please tell me how to remove my former ubuntu version?
[05:58] <mwright1> i'll download that and see wht is inside
[05:58] <durt> regeya: i know that, but the number of firefox problems i have seen here and elsewhere is quite large (i havent seen #firefox so i dont know about it), but im sorry if i offended you cultural diversity :P
[05:58] <mwright1> it looks pretty small
[05:58] <regeya> luckyaba, that sucks...wonder what's wrong.  wait wait wait, this is a call to push other web browsers. *wink*
[05:58] <Rotund> is there a command to find all the x extensions you are currently running?
[05:58] <bobbyd> hi
[05:59] <Amaranth> thellama: 3rd major release vs 10th and Ubuntu isn't that far behind, I think we're doing ok
[05:59] <regeya> durt: you still haven't explained anything; since you're going into defensive mode, I guess you're just trolling.  good day.
[05:59] <mister_roboto> tuxedo_kamen: what do you mean remove the former version? on another partition?
[05:59] <tuxedo_kamen> no
[05:59] <durt> regeya: what do you want me to explain then?
[05:59] <tuxedo_kamen> let's say it like this... imagine that I had ubuntu 1.2, now I have 1.3 . How can I delete the last one?
[06:00] <mister_roboto> tuxedo_kamen: you do a dist-upgrade to 1.3?
[06:00] <tuxedo_kamen> no, it was an example
[06:00] <mister_roboto> tuxedo_kamen: if you just upgraded like by doing a dist-upgrade, there is nothing to remove!
[06:00] <kevogod> Change the references from "Doggy" to "Scooty" and then sudo dist-upgrade
[06:00] <chavo> he wants to remove the old kernel
[06:00] <Amaranth> tuxedo_kamen: Either do a dist-upgrade or wipe the HD and install.
[06:00] <tuxedo_kamen> I want to remove the old kernel, do you understand?
[06:00] <bobbyd> when I installed nvidia-glx-dev I got some headers like glx.h and glxtokens.h. They're installed in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-dev/include/. Is there an official way to change the links in /usr/include to point to these, or should I just do it by hand?
[06:00] <pfalcone> tuxedo_kamen: apt-get remove linux-image-version
[06:00] <Amaranth> tuxedo_kamen: then find it in synaptic and remove it
[06:00] <chavo> tuxedo_kamen, apt-get remove linux-blah-blah-blah
[06:01] <LootBeer> my gift daemon keeps giving me error msg: Segmentation fault...whats that?pls help.
[06:01] <RockyBurt> pfalcone: i'm not familiar enough with dealing with source debs at this piont ... any pointers on getting started?
[06:01] <Amaranth> tuxedo_kamen: search in synaptic for "linux-image" and remove all the old ones.
[06:01] <kevogod> tuxedo_kamen, Open Synaptic, search for linux-image and then get rid.
[06:01] <mister_roboto> tuxedo_kamen: or do apt-get remove <package> if you have some old package still installed. but upgrading will replace older packages with new ones
[06:01] <kevogod> Lol
[06:02] <Amaranth> mwright1: Found it: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily-live/
[06:02] <nickrud> darn, everyone seems to have a kernel story to tell :)
[06:02] <mister_roboto> tuxedo_kamen: if you're just just doing dist-upgrades all along, there is nothing to  remove
[06:02] <chavo> it's just the old kernel he wants to replace
[06:02] <durt> firefox 1.0.6 or whatever is unbearably slow, and firefox 1.5 crashes consistently, if thats what youre looking for regeya
[06:02] <BiggieSmalls> can someone help me to turn on dma for my cdrom drive in breezy?
[06:02] <chavo> or remove
[06:02] <tuxedo_kamen> ok, just did it
[06:02] <tuxedo_kamen> well, brb
[06:02] <chavo> kernel != ubuntu
[06:02] <kevogod> !start browser war
[06:02] <ubotu> kevogod: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:02] <mister_roboto> chavo: exactly
[06:02] <regeya> lol
[06:02] <chavo> wow, not the brightest star in the universe huh?
[06:02] <kevogod> I blew that one.
[06:02] <pfalcone> RockyBurt: use the dpkg-buildpackage command when you fetch the source via apt-get source packagename. it would notify you what you'd need to install when you try to build the package
[06:03] <Madpilot> !tell BiggieSmalls about dma
[06:03] <chavo> well I think he's slowly catching on though
[06:03] <regeya> all browsers are inferior to lynx!
[06:03] <Amaranth> !tell BiggieSmalls about dma
[06:03] <BiggieSmalls> !!
[06:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[06:03] <chavo> lynx is BLOATED!
[06:03] <[LethAL] > rofl
[06:03] <regeya> lol
[06:03] <chavo> telnet to port 80 is the only way
[06:03] <[LethAL] > wget!
[06:03] <[LethAL] > :P
[06:03] <Amaranth> BiggieSmalls: did you get a PM?
[06:04] <regeya> back in my day, we didn't even HAVE webpages!
[06:04] <whispers_of_clay> chavo, no no no, you must move information by putting refrigerator magnets on the fridge then delivering it to the appropriate party.
[06:04] <chavo> now wget is cool, don't be knocking on wget :)
[06:04] <nickrud> ah, fido?
[06:04] <LootBeer> rebooted mt pc... still gave me segfault... and the program doesnt launch, pls help?
[06:05] <lampshade> Anyone install the nvidia binary drivers for Breezy?  It didn't work out for me.  X doesn't start acts as if it has no idea what I'm talking about with my "nvidia"  driver...  is there a different method to install it than the method that is for Hoary?
[06:05] <whispers_of_clay> nickrud, back in the day
[06:05] <Amaranth> LootBeer: what app is segfaulting?
[06:05] <chavo> lol, apt-get install refrigerator-magnets
[06:05] <nickrud> I can remember when fido was newfangled :)
[06:05] <[LethAL] > lampshade, Well... I installed it and it just worked
[06:05] <[LethAL] > rofl @chavo
[06:05] <LootBeer> its a gift daemon... the p2p application
[06:05] <nickrud> minibin, anyone?
[06:05] <Amaranth> nickrud: BBSs are awesome ;)
[06:05] <durt> lampshade: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:05] <lampshade> [LethAL] : yeah, I was hoping it would do the same for me...  it has in the past too just not with my Breezy :-/  hrmm
[06:06] <nickrud> were, were, were.
[06:06] <[LethAL] > lampshade, no idea, sorry :(
[06:06] <ryan_> anyone know why there is no php5-mcrypt package??
[06:06] <Amaranth> LootBeer: did you try reinstalling the giftd package?
[06:06] <mister_roboto> lampshade: thankfully, the ubuntu guys now include the binary driver as a debian package!
[06:06] <ryan_> there is one for php4 just not 5 which is odd cuz all the other php5 packages are there
[06:06] <BiggieSmalls> thanks guys that wiki helped :)
[06:07] <lampshade> [LethAL] : Did it auto config the xorg for you like it used to?  I noticed that it didn't on mind and I had to config it by hand... I'm thinking maybe I missed something in X
[06:07] <[LethAL] > mister_roboto, lampshade clearly knows that
[06:07] <[LethAL] > lampshade, my xorg.conf is allready hacked by the time I installed nvidia-glx, so I did it manually
[06:07] <mister_roboto> [LethAL] : not clearly enough for me!  :)
[06:07] <Amaranth> mister_roboto: They have since warty
[06:07] <lampshade> [LethAL] : hrmmm
[06:08] <CaptainMorgan> how do I check my processes, or whether openssh-server is running ?
[06:08] <[LethAL] > mister_roboto, Since you're a robot, try some new OCR software?
[06:08] <LootBeer> Amaranth> it was working fine just a min ago.. den it went segfaulting... what happenend?
[06:08] <mister_roboto> Amaranth: when i tried the one from hoary, it was worthless
[06:08] <LootBeer> :<
[06:08] <chavo> lampshade, double check xorg.conf, because I know the nv driver doesn't work with some newer nvidia cards
[06:08] <mister_roboto> Amaranth: slow
[06:08] <dooglus> I'm seeing quite a lot of segfaults in gnome_terminal in breezy recently.  Am I alone, or is this common?
[06:08] <lampshade> chavo: I am not using the nv driver.  I'm using the nvidia
[06:08] <chavo> it doesn't work for my 6600GT at all
[06:08] <Amaranth> mister_roboto: they just caught a bad version as their final version for the release
[06:09] <Amaranth> mister_roboto: it seems like almost every other one is bad
[06:09] <[LethAL] > dooglus, segfaults are 'supposedly' due to bad ram
[06:09] <CaptainMorgan> sorry, nevermind.. found it
[06:09] <dooglus> [LethAL] : bad programming, too...
[06:09] <chavo> that's why I said double check xorg.conf
[06:09] <lampshade> chavo: Basically in past releases I simply did the apt gets and bam it worked but for the same machine on Breezy something went awry
[06:09] <Amaranth> segfaults are due to bad RAM, a corrupt file, or a program bug
[06:09] <IcemanV9> CaptainMorgan: ps aux |grep -i openssh-server
[06:09] <lampshade> yeah segfaults could be someone dereferencing a null pointer
[06:10] <mwright1> Amaranth: those daily livecds are dated August
[06:10] <Amaranth> err
[06:11] <CaptainMorgan> IcemanV9: what does this show me exactly? run-time? what is pts/7 ?
[06:11] <lampshade> so what would a dist-upgrade do if I'm running the preview release of breezy with unmodded apt sources?(ie the sources that came with it?)
[06:11] <dooglus> just me then?  is anyone else running gnome-terminal in breezy?
[06:11] <johhny> lampshade: Make it more stable
[06:11] <goh> May I know how I can add a repositry in synaptic that looks for my hoary cd for updating in my cdrw? Currently, It looks for it in the cdrom
[06:12] <johhny> lampshade: That is what I am running currently and it is great
[06:12] <IcemanV9> CaptainMorgan: then, it IS running. :)
[06:12] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[06:12] <[LethAL] > dooglus, reinstall it. I prefer xterminal though :)
[06:12] <mister_roboto> Amaranth: I'd be suspicious of any programmer who claimed hardware problems when you told him his program was getting a segfault :)
[06:12] <CaptainMorgan> curious, how come it's not listed in the processes list ?
[06:12] <dooglus> [LethAL] : the gnome-terminal installation is fine.
[06:12] <benplaut> [LethAL] : yay for xterminal :D
[06:12] <macgeek> darn, i got mac os x's disk utility to work, but now i'm getting another error 'couldn't retrieve libc6'
[06:13] <dooglus> (according to debsums)
[06:13] <[LethAL] > lol
[06:13] <IcemanV9> CaptainMorgan: it is not part of user(normal)
[06:13] <macgeek> how can set disk utility to burn at a lower speed?
[06:13] <[LethAL] > xterminal > *
[06:13] <luckyaba> how can you change fonts in firefox outside of the browser?
[06:13] <johhny> lampshade: What a good (mine) breezy desktop should look like http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/Screenshot.jpg
[06:13] <Amaranth> mister_roboto: How about when gnome-settings-daemon dies from a segfault, then X dies, then bash? ;)
[06:13] <lampshade> man oh man I should have done some stuff with framebuffer so that when I'm using just console right now each letter isn't a foot big
[06:13] <dooglus> [LethAL] : I guess perhaps one of the libraries is corrupted, or the kernel, or ...
[06:13] <mister_roboto> Amaranth: then he's have a case ;)
[06:13] <[LethAL] > dooglus, remove the deps for it
[06:14] <nickrud> mister_roboto, have pity on the poor soul who's trying to write software for undocumented/buggy hardware
[06:14] <dooglus> [LethAL] : but more likely I guess there's a bug in something...  I use it very heavily, multiple tabs, multiple windows.
[06:14] <kevogod> johhny, I do not like your top panel.
[06:14] <[LethAL] > johhny, I agree with kevogod
[06:14] <goh> May I know how I can add a repositry in synaptic that looks for my hoary cd for updating in my cdrw? Currently, It looks for it in the cdrom
[06:14] <[LethAL] > And why the bluecurve icons? :O
[06:14] <johhny> kevogod: Don't like the gradient?
[06:14] <mister_roboto> nickrud: but memory is not the first thing to think of when your program segfaults :)
[06:15] <johhny> [LethAL] : Because I prefer them over human. Other than crystal, they are the most professional
[06:15] <kevogod> johhny, I don't like it.
[06:15] <nickrud> noaXess, true, but tonight I'm thinking 20 years ago.
[06:16] <[LethAL] > johhny, Are they easy to get? I like them... just thought it was odd
[06:16] <johhny> [LethAL] : Very, Do you want me to msg you a script to get them for you and set them as the default? Like 4 or 5 lines thanks to gnome's great gconf
[06:16] <nickrud> noaXess, sorry :)
[06:16] <[LethAL] > johhny, pwease :)
[06:17] <b8ss> I dont want to inturrupt anything, but can anybody tell me what is the easiest wireless card for laptops to set up on ubuntu?
[06:17] <dooglus> I installed the most recent breezy update half way through a compilation of firefox.  The firefox I ended up with wouldn't run.  I'm having to start the whole 3-hour build off again :(
[06:17] <[LethAL] > haha
[06:17] <dooglus> libgtk2.0-0 got updated, which firefox uses
[06:17] <[LethAL] > b8ss, avoid the broadcom ones. That's all I know
[06:18] <chavo> dooglus, woops!
[06:18] <b8ss> yeah i have heard prism cards are the only ones compatible wit airsnort so i wanna be sure and get one of those
[06:18] <johhny> If you like bluecurve icons on ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/387777
[06:18] <dooglus> nickrud: I'm doing the build as an unprivaleged user, so it wouldn't have corrupted anything except the build...
[06:19] <johhny> b8ss: kismet is probably better if you want to cause mischief with monitor mode
[06:19] <chavo> yeah, you can run it from the build directory
[06:19] <nickrud> dooglus, it will use files in /usr/, which will be randomly changing during an upgrade, dude
[06:19] <chavo> that's waht he just said
[06:20] <Chinaman> does anyone know how crimsun sets up ALSA?
[06:20] <b8ss> is there a kismet card around thats easy to set up? i am a total linux noob
[06:20] <[LethAL] > johhny, thanks, I ;'d it to one line though :P
[06:20] <nickrud> Chinaman, if I did, I'd get paid somewhere
[06:20] <[LethAL] > s/line/command/
[06:20] <crimsun> I don't set up ALSA, Ubuntu does.
[06:20] <Chinaman> oh
[06:20] <Chinaman> i got through the factoid part
[06:20] <johhny> [LethAL] : haha. Just make sure you have alien installed. You can get it from apt if you dont
[06:20] <Chinaman> but i forgot how to do the next parts
[06:21] <crimsun> Chinaman: what audio chipset do you have?
[06:21] <Chinaman> i know something involves modprobe
[06:21] <[LethAL] > Well I know I have laien ;)
[06:21] <Chinaman> i use emu10k1
[06:21] <[LethAL] > alien*
[06:21] <crimsun> Chinaman: the audigy?
[06:21] <[LethAL] > btw you should use alie -i
[06:21] <Chinaman> yep
[06:21] <crimsun> Chinaman: did you modprobe snd-emu10k1?
[06:21] <[LethAL] > remove the need for the dpkg -i line
[06:21] <tuxedo_kamen> hum.... on the synaptic program, what does it mean when there is a symbol before the package name?
[06:21] <Chinaman> aha!, that's what i was looking for
[06:21] <johhny> [LethAL] : Why alien -i?
[06:22] <[LethAL] > Converts and installs iirc
[06:22] <johhny> [LethAL] : Very nice, thanks
[06:22] <breakthestate> default root password on ubuntu server install?
[06:22] <[LethAL] > w00t, it works
[06:22] <tuxedo_kamen> ;|
[06:22] <[LethAL] > !tell breakthestate about rootsudo
[06:23] <[LethAL] > johhny, Thanks, I like it alot :)
[06:23] <johhny> [LethAL] : You're welcome, I do to
[06:24] <macgeek> question: when burning the ubuntu iso, should i burn a 'session'?
[06:24] <Chinaman> crimsun: something is not working
[06:24] <crimsun> Chinaman: first check that the chipset is recognized. cat /proc/asound/cards should show it.
[06:25] <breakthestate> [LethAL] : does that apply to an ubuntu server install?  it's not working for e
[06:25] <goemon> can someone tell me how to set the root password in ubuntu
[06:25] <goemon> please
[06:25] <crimsun> !root
[06:25] <ubotu> methinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:25] <goemon> thanks
[06:25] <goemon> hmm
[06:25] <macgeek> anyone?
[06:26] <tuxedo_kamen> hum.... on the synaptic program, what does it mean when there is a symbol before the package name?
[06:26] <goemon> well how do I get permission to burn an iso
[06:26] <crimsun> macgeek: disk-at-once
[06:26] <luckyaba> can i install over any existing files for that packge?
[06:26] <goemon> is there a different program I should be using besides cdrecord
[06:26] <vladuz976> anybody here know how to add japanese language support i mean the input method switch thing?
[06:26] <crimsun> goemon: sudo cdrecord ...
[06:26] <macgeek> crimsun: so no session?
[06:26] <goemon> oh ok
[06:26] <goemon> thanks
[06:26] <breakthestate> yeah, i can't login as root for the server install
[06:26] <Chinaman> crimsun: how do i remove all the stuff from alsa folder again?
[06:26] <crimsun> Chinaman: be more precise
[06:27] <sumon> can i install other linux's with grub?
[06:27] <Trashcan> can someone paste their xorg.conf?
[06:27] <Trashcan> i need to check somethign
[06:27] <[LethAL] > What something?
[06:27] <Chinaman> i need to delete /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver$
[06:27] <Trashcan> the "DRI" part
[06:27] <sumon> like suse , slacker
[06:27] <macgeek> crimsun: no session?
[06:27] <[LethAL] > Trashcan, I don't use dri anyway...
[06:27] <Trashcan> i wanna see what it says in an un-up-f*****
[06:28] <crimsun> macgeek: session in what context?
[06:28] <joetheodd> hey, does Ubuntu come with any hex-editors out of the box?
[06:28] <kevogod> Why the heck are Epiphany's mouse gestures activated with the middle button?
[06:28] <dooglus> haha.  turns out that the upgrade didn't break the build - the build was broken anyway...
[06:28] <dooglus> joetheodd: there's one in emacs out the box
[06:28] <Trashcan> [LethAl] : basically trying to get rid of: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:28] <macgeek> crimsun: ok im burning an iso using firestarter fx on mac os x, and one of the burn options is 'Burn session'
[06:28] <dooglus> M-x hexl-mode RET
[06:29] <[LethAL] > hmmm
[06:29] <[LethAL] > Trashcan, mind I I query you it?
[06:29] <[LethAL] > if I*
[06:29] <Trashcan> go right on ahead
[06:29] <nickrud> kevogod, why not use the middle button?
[06:29] <crimsun> macgeek: session should work fine
[06:29] <dooglus> biew - console hex viewer/editor with disassembler
[06:29] <dooglus> ghex - GNOME Hex editor for files
[06:29] <macgeek> crimsun: ok
[06:29] <dooglus> hexcurse - A ncurses-based hex editor with many features
[06:29] <dooglus> hexedit - view and edit files in hexadecimal or in ASCII
[06:29] <dooglus> and so on...  that's a "yes"
[06:30] <Trashcan> i backed up everything it said it was changing
[06:30] <Trashcan> and yet
[06:30] <jwd> whats up everyone
[06:30] <Trashcan> it's still not fixed after restoring from backups
[06:31] <jwd> having a problem I installed and everything was running fine
[06:31] <jwd> all of a sudden I reboot and it hangs
[06:31] <jwd> at Checking battery state
[06:31] <pupil> How do I add a theme to icewm window manager?
[06:31] <jwd> any one know what could be causing this
[06:31] <tyler_durden> how come xserver wont start with nvidia selected as my graphics card?
[06:32] <TheRabbit> Te totem movie plaer doesn't seem to support any movie files I can find
[06:32] <TheRabbit> is there additional software that I need to install?
[06:32] <AlphaFaction> hey people has anyone hear installed cedega on ubuntu?
[06:33] <bur[n] er> AlphaFaction: sure have
[06:33] <bur[n] er> AlphaFaction: works well
[06:33] <nickrud> !tell TheRabbit about w32codecs
[06:33] <bur[n] er> AlphaFaction: (until I installed breezy and wrecked X of course ;)
[06:33] <AlphaFaction> good stuff, i seem to be getting and error (error 21) and dont know what the deal is
[06:33] <[LethAL] > lol
[06:33] <[LethAL] > :(
[06:33] <[LethAL] > ubotu is dead
[06:33] <ubotu> [LethAL] : Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:33] <kevogod> Every time I get cedega from CVS, it never compiles.
[06:33] <[LethAL] > !test
[06:33] <nickrud> TheRabbit, did that message you got from ubotu help?
[06:33] <ubotu> Failed.
[06:33] <[LethAL] > woah... problem
[06:33] <pupil> other than xpde is there any windows manger that looks like windows xp ?
[06:33] <[LethAL] > tyler_durden, howcome the world is round? (Be more specifc)
[06:33] <Chinaman> crimsun: can you give me all of the steps to setting up the card?
[06:33] <[LethAL] > TheRabbit, try VLC or mplayer
[06:33] <[LethAL] > AlphaFaction, ya
[06:33] <Chinaman> *all the steps after the factoid
[06:33] <[LethAL] > !tell TheRabbit about restrictedformats
[06:33] <[LethAL] > haha
[06:34] <tyler_durden> i would if i knew why.. which would then solve my problem
[06:34] <crimsun> Chinaman: it's pretty simple: You reboot.
[06:34] <luckyaba> is there a font package for mozilla-firefox?
[06:34] <AlphaFaction> [LethAL]  any ideas?
[06:34] <joetheodd> ubuntu has quit. omg. not good.
[06:34] <Chinaman> crimsun: after modprobe snd-emu10k1, i reboot?
[06:34] <[LethAL] > rofl
[06:34] <Chinaman> don't i save something?
[06:34] <breakthestate> so, with a server install, root owns many files and what not, but i can't not even access the root account with sudo
[06:34] <breakthestate> if i try sudo passwd root
[06:34] <breakthestate> nothing.
[06:35] <Chinaman> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[06:35] <[LethAL] > AlphaFaction, an error when you runn what?
[06:35] <pupil> [LethAL] ,  do you know any window manager that looks like windows xp ?
[06:35] <vladuz976> is there a way that i can get breezy completely compiled for i686 instead of the 386 version?
[06:35] <AlphaFaction> [LethAL] : anything
[06:35] <pupil> [LethAL] , other than xpde
[06:35] <nickrud> having given that advice far more often than I would whish
[06:35] <macgeek> gosh burning takes too long
[06:35] <[LethAL] > pupil, If you get the experence theme for GTK+ + Metacity...
[06:35] <macgeek> i've spent like 4 hours trying to get this to work
[06:35] <[LethAL] > AlphaFaction, odd, are you using CVS?
[06:36] <jwd> has anyone seen my problem
[06:36] <Chinaman> gosh i want to play halo and doom3 on nix
[06:36] <[LethAL] > Chinaman, Halo -won't- work on nix
[06:36] <AlphaFaction> no im using the offical .deb package
[06:36] <Chinaman> -.-
[06:36] <kevogod> Halo on Windows sucked.
[06:36] <[LethAL] > Chinaman, Doom3 has a linux client
[06:36] <Chinaman> i know
[06:36] <ibrasil> how do i do to install divx or other codec?
[06:36] <Chinaman> i have it
[06:36] <kevogod> Why would you want to play that?
[06:36] <Chinaman> i played halo on windows
[06:36] <[LethAL] > !lart kevogod
[06:36] <Chinaman> just trying it on nix
[06:37] <[LethAL] > Halo is a perfectly good game tyvm
[06:37] <kevogod> I never said it was a bad game. I said it sucked on Windows.
[06:37] <pupil> [LethAL] , looks darned close doesn't it
[06:37] <pupil> [LethAL] , heh
[06:37] <kevogod> It is much better on Xbox.
[06:37] <crimsun> Chinaman: no, you reboot after those steps.
[06:37] <[LethAL] > pupil, yeah, not that I like the way XP looks anyway, I use the old themes
[06:37] <[LethAL] > pupil, although I couldn't get te GTK theme to look right...
[06:38] <pupil> [LethAL] , its not for me,. my wife is telling me she wants windows,.
[06:38] <pupil> [LethAL] , so i'm doing the best I can
[06:38] <crimsun> Chinaman: you only modprobe snd-emu10k1 if one or more of the following is true: (1) you wish to use sound immediately without rebooting; (2) rebooting does not result in the correct driver being loaded due to pci ids
[06:38] <breakthestate> nobody can tell me the root password for a server install of ubuntu breezy?
[06:38] <lampshade> so when you dist-upgrade but your sources list is the list you normally would upgrade from, what's the diff?  What does dist-upgrade do differently in that case?
[06:38] <luckyaba> breakthesstate: what root passwd?
[06:38] <[LethAL] > pupil, haha... well feel free to dcc me a screenie when it's done :P
[06:38] <crimsun> breakthestate: did you read the root factoid?
[06:38] <breakthestate> ydx
[06:38] <breakthestate> yes
[06:38] <nickrud> breakthestate, there is no root password; if you want one. sudo passwd root
[06:38] <AlphaFaction> so no one else had problems installing the offical cedega 4.4 .deb backage then?
[06:38] <luckyaba> breakthesstate:  when it boots from the cd?
[06:39] <pupil> [LethAL] , like I'm gonna have any luck,. heh
[06:39] <breakthestate> nick: doesn't work
[06:39] <[LethAL] > lampshade, it works normally until you do apt-get update
[06:39] <nickrud> breakthestate, ?
[06:39] <Trashcan> how do you restart X without rebooting?
[06:39] <[LethAL] > Ctrl-Alt-backsp
[06:39] <[LethAL] > Trashcan, ^^
[06:39] <breakthestate> error message: sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu2 via gethostbyname()
[06:39] <Trashcan> :O
[06:39] <[LethAL] > ?
[06:39] <Trashcan> i thought ctl-alt-backspace = reboot
[06:39] <Trashcan> :O
[06:39] <Trashcan> uuppppttiiimmmeee
[06:39] <[LethAL] > No, that Ctrl-Alt-Del
[06:39] <Trashcan> alright
[06:39] <[LethAL] > :P
[06:40] <Trashcan> ty :)
[06:40] <[LethAL] > that's(
[06:40] <[LethAL] > **
[06:40] <crimsun> ctrl+alt+backspace only kills your current X server
[06:40] <[LethAL] > crimsun, note that he's gone :D
[06:40] <nickrud> breakthestate, then, that's totally over my head, ask around again
[06:41] <breakthestate> nickrud: he, mine too.
[06:41] <ibrasil> please, how do i do to install divx or other video codec?
[06:41] <joetheodd> Hey, has anyone ever installed Visual Basic 98 on Ubuntu?
[06:41] <[LethAL] > !tell ibrasil about restricted
[06:41] <[LethAL] > !start a language war
[06:41] <ubotu> Ruby is better than C++!
[06:42] <lampshade> joetheodd: ???  vb 98??
[06:42] <nickrud> breakthestate, that seriously sounds like either a broken system, or  a personally borked system. There are people here who can tell the diff
[06:42] <lampshade> joetheodd: why?  I gotta know lolz
[06:42] <ibrasil> thanks
[06:42] <joetheodd> lampshade: yes
[06:42] <breakthestate> i'm getting an error message when i do "sudo passwd root" from a fresh ubuntu server install from the Breezy preview CD.  The error message is "error message: sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu2 via gethostbyname()"
[06:42] <joetheodd> lampshade: I made the horrible mistake of learning it when I used that devil we know as Windows
[06:43] <[LethAL] > breakthestate, something to do with /etc/hots iirc
[06:43] <Chinaman> grr
[06:43] <[LethAL] > /etc/hosts*
[06:43] <lampshade> joetheodd: You can use Mono to write newer code  like VB.NET and C# like code.  I would recommend you do that instead of vb 98 stuff
[06:43] <micro_girl> hi everyone
[06:44] <eythian> joetheodd: use this as an opportunity to learn a real language :) Like python or something.
[06:44] <Chinaman> crimsun: what do i do if my sound is mute?
[06:44] <micro_girl>  need some urgent help, I accidentally uninstalled the graphical interface! :| what should I do now?
[06:44] <joetheodd> etyhian: echo("I'd rather use PHP");
[06:44] <joetheodd> etyhian: cout << "C++ is nice too." << endl;
[06:44] <[LethAL] > breakthestate, you need to go into recovery mode and add "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu2" to /etc/hosts
[06:45] <eythian> joetheodd: php is OK for what it does, but it's not much of a general language.
[06:45] <[LethAL] > breakthestate, assuming your PC name is ubuntu2
[06:45] <Chinaman> crimsun: how do i unmute teh sound?
[06:45] <nalioth> tritium: howdy
[06:45] <breakthestate> nice all i have is 127.0.0.1
[06:45] <lampshade> joetheodd: Yeah just use Mono you can basically do .NET code with it.  Pretty neat
[06:45] <breakthestate> LethAL, do i really have to go in recovery mode?
[06:45] <breakthestate> i guess i probably don't have permission to edit that file
[06:45] <[LethAL] > breakthestate, since it's owned by roit
[06:45] <[LethAL] > root*
[06:45] <joetheodd> lampshade: .NET is discusting if you ask me.
[06:45] <[LethAL] > +1
[06:45] <micro_girl> can anyone please help me with my problem? It's quite urgent, since otherwise I won't be able to enter ubuntu anymore!!! :|
[06:46] <breakthestate> LethAL:  thx, and you too nickrud
[06:46] <nalioth> micro_girl: ask a question
[06:46] <[LethAL] > micro_girl, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:46] <eythian> micro_girl: you can reinstall it from a console. apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should do it
[06:46] <micro_girl> i'll try it, thanks
[06:47] <joetheodd> Hey, I rm'd my iMac yesterday, any way I can recover it before I have to restart? =p
[06:47] <nalioth> joetheodd: what do you want to recover?
[06:47] <joetheodd> nalioth: Kidding =p
[06:47] <eythian> joetheodd: short answer: no. long answer: noooo
[06:48] <joetheodd> eythian: LOL
[06:48] <nickrud> joetheodd, do you think an undelete here will work?
[06:48] <vladuz976> how can i find out if i have athon or athlon xp?
[06:48] <lampshade> joetheodd: Why?  Because C# steals the good parts of Java and and refines the bad parts?  Yeah programming .net c++ isn't that much fun but C# as a language is pretty freaking hot.  Even some of the original C++ people tip their hats to it.  Also, the main people in charge of it are some of the original Borland people  very impressive people..  Give it a shot.  I hated it but I was just being prejudice
[06:48] <vladuz976> uname -a doesn't show what exact architecture
[06:48] <[LethAL] > vladuz976, cat /proc/puinfo
[06:48] <[LethAL] > cpuinfo*
[06:48] <nalioth> folks, let's discuss programming languages in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:48] <eythian> lampshade: the main issue with mono is that once oyu have a codebase in it, MS can take it away, then you're stuck.
[06:49] <ztrikker> bladuz976 your bios should say it when you boot up
[06:49] <ztrikker> v
[06:49] <vladuz976> [LethAL] : says model name      : Unknown CPU Type
[06:49] <[LethAL] > vladuz976, odd
[06:49] <lampshade> eythian: interesting point.  You mean m$ could just dump .NET is what you are saying?
[06:50] <lampshade> eythian: And then the mono people would be bummed out/screwed?
[06:50] <[LethAL] > vladuz976, you bios should know :)
[06:50] <eythian> lampshade: more that they could say, a few years down the road, "hey, we have a patent on this! you can use it anymore! hah!"
[06:50] <tambaqui> can anyone here know the nickname the Mark Shuttleworth?
[06:50] <nalioth> lampshade: eythian: please in #ubuntu-offtopic for language discussions
[06:50] <nalioth> tambaqui: sabdfl
[06:50] <lampshade> eythian: I'm sure they have patents on it right now.  I'm pretty sure most of the mono stuff is made around those
[06:50] <lampshade> kk
[06:51] <lampshade> will do nalioth
[06:51] <nickrud> eythian, I'm no where near a mono programmer, but. Having followed the mono guys for a while, I find it hard to believe they'd paint themselves into that kind of coner
[06:51] <vladuz976> [LethAL] : it says vendor type authenticAMD family 6 and model 8, cpu mhz1250 cache size 256kb
[06:51] <Chinaman> crimsun: how do i unmute my alsa?
[06:51] <crimsun> Chinaman: 'm' in alsamixer
[06:51] <tambaqui> nalioth, thank you
[06:51] <crimsun> Chinaman: or use the Volume Control
[06:51] <crimsun> Chinaman: what do you see in /proc/asound/cards?
[06:51] <tambaqui> nalioth, obrigada :)
[06:51] <jwd> can anyone help me out
[06:52] <signbarn> Is there any way I can get rid of these little annoying 'pops' at the end of sound effects (like gaim for example)?
[06:52] <jwd> hanging on boot Checking battery state
[06:52] <crimsun> signbarn: switch to native alsa instead of esound
[06:52] <nalioth> tambaqui: da nada
[06:52] <vladuz976> what is ubuntu-offtopic for?
[06:52] <signbarn> crimsun: is there a HOWTO?
[06:52] <kevogod> vladuz976, Offtopic stuff.
[06:52] <Chinaman> crimsun: i see Audigy2 in asound folder
[06:52] <vladuz976> kevogod: like?
[06:52] <eythian> vladuz976: offtopic discussion that comes from here
[06:52] <nalioth> vladuz976: discussions not related to ubuntu help
[06:52] <crimsun> Chinaman: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:52] <signbarn> speaking of offtopic discussion....
[06:53] <kevogod> vladuz976, Stuff not related to Ubuntu.
[06:53] <vladuz976> oh then why be on the ubuntu channel?
[06:53] <crimsun> to assist people, of course.
[06:53] <crimsun> this IS a general support channel.
[06:53] <signbarn> crimsun: how do i switch to native alsa instead of esound?
[06:53] <vladuz976> ok, can someone then tell me how to get an i686 kernel for breezy?
[06:54] <crimsun> signbarn: adjust System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink
[06:54] <crimsun> vladuz976: sudo aptitude install linux-686
[06:54] <Chinaman> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2903
[06:54] <whispers_of_clay> there must be a bad moon rising, people are pissed off in every channel.
[06:54] <micro_girl> hi once again
[06:54] <lampshade> vladuz976: try apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6  and see what is there
[06:54] <nalioth> vladuz976: it's waiting for you in apt-get
[06:54] <whispers_of_clay> we need some peace
[06:54] <nalioth> micro_girl: are you gui happy?
[06:54] <vladuz976> crimsun: that's it? there is so many packages like linux-image-686 the headers
[06:54] <lampshade> vladuz976: At least, that's how I used to with debian
[06:54] <crimsun> lampshade: Ubuntu (and now Debian) uses linux-image
[06:54] <micro_girl> I still can't install the graphical interface, it says that it needed some dependencies! :|
[06:54] <lampshade> crimsun: ahh
[06:54] <crimsun> vladuz976: that's it.
[06:55] <ztrikker> Vladuz976 thats a athlon XP
[06:55] <vladuz976> crimsun: so what are the other packages for then
[06:55] <eythian> micro_girl: it should have installed them when you did the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:55] <vladuz976> ztrikker: how do you know?
[06:55] <micro_girl> it didn't
[06:55] <nalioth> micro_girl: what sources.list are you running?
[06:55] <micro_girl> what's that?
[06:55] <crimsun> vladuz976: they're metapackages that pull in the necessary dependencies to ensure smooth {down,up}grades
[06:55] <Trashcan> yay
[06:55] <signbarn> crimsun: thanks a bunch
[06:56] <Chinaman> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2903
[06:56] <nalioth> micro_girl: have you used any non official repositories to add programs to your ubuntu?
[06:56] <Trashcan> Fatal server error: failed to initialize core devices
[06:56] <micro_girl> no
[06:56] <micro_girl> I just used the default ones
[06:56] <crimsun> Chinaman: can you wait a sec, please?
[06:57] <vladuz976> crimsun: so if i install the linux-686 package it will take care of the rest? then synaptic or apt should show me the dependencies that will be installed with it,right?
[06:57] <Trashcan> right, so, installed DRI drivers. Didn't work, so I rolled back to the backups I had made
[06:57] <Chinaman> crimsun: sure
[06:57] <micro_girl> and they told me to run apt-get -f install , but it doesn't solve it yet
[06:57] <Trashcan> restarted X, and it crashes
[06:57] <nalioth> micro_girl: try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[06:57] <Trashcan> can I roll back X from the repos?
[06:57] <ztrikker> vladuz if you have an AMD , you need to install the k7 package
[06:57] <micro_girl> but I have ubuntu, not kubuntu!
[06:57] <crimsun> Chinaman: unmute the element called 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack'
[06:57] <Trashcan> the entire xorg install
[06:57] <nalioth> micro_girl: you may have to run "sudo apt-get -f install" more than once
[06:58] <micro_girl> nalioth, that seems to try to remove my kernel !
[06:58] <nalioth> ztrikker: the k7 or 686 will function similarly
[06:58] <nalioth> micro_girl: kubuntu-desktop? or apt-get -f install?
[06:58] <Chinaman> crimsun: how do i do that?
[06:58] <micro_girl> -f install
[06:58] <macgeek> installing ubuntu, so far so good (this is what, my 5th try?)
[06:58] <vladuz976> ztrikker: it says athlon thoroughbred for model 8
[06:58] <nalioth> macgeek: it'll be nicer for the effort
[06:58] <Chinaman> crimsun: i'm in alsamixer, i've pressed space and enter and it hasn't done anything
[06:58] <crimsun> Chinaman: open a Terminal and type amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[06:58] <eythian> micro_girl: what dependencies were missing?
[06:59] <crimsun> Chinaman: use 'm' to (un)mute
[06:59] <sumon> something is really wrong with xmms
[06:59] <macgeek> nalioth: what will be nicer than what?
[06:59] <micro_girl> no idea, but they were a lot of them
[06:59] <Chinaman> k crimsun
[06:59] <sumon> something is really wrong with xmms
[06:59] <sumon> xmms
[06:59] <crimsun> sumon: that's way too vague
[06:59] <sumon> something is really wrong with xmms
[06:59] <sumon> oopw
[06:59] <crimsun> ok, we read you the first three times
[07:00] <sumon> ok
[07:00] <nalioth> macgeek: the more effort you put into something, the more you'll appreciate it
[07:00] <micro_girl> so, what should I do?
[07:00] <sumon> i can't play mp3
[07:00] <crimsun> sumon: just mp3s or anything using xmms?
[07:00] <macgeek> nalioth: ya i guess your right. hope it works... its at 79%
[07:00] <eythian> micro_girl: hmm. That's really weird. maybe you should try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubunto-desktop ... but you should have to...
[07:01] <eythian> shoudN'T have to...
[07:01] <joe_> hi guys
[07:01] <nalioth> micro_girl: or try installing 'kubuntu-desktop'
[07:01] <sumon> i haven't tried..
[07:01] <[LethAL] > or xubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <[LethAL] > :D
[07:01] <Davey> So, what will I need to do to upgrade to Breezy when its released?
[07:01] <sumon> it worked with oggs ..
[07:01] <tritium> yes, Davey
[07:01] <Trashcan> can i do a complete reinstall of xfree86/xorg?
[07:01] <sumon> but it doesn't even work with oggs
[07:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Davey about upgrade2breezy
[07:01] <macgeek> craaaaaaap
[07:02] <micro_girl> are you sure that will work?
[07:02] <BinaryDigit> hello all
[07:02] <macgeek> 'An error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system. Kernel package: linux-386.'
[07:02] <BinaryDigit> anyone use Bluefish html editor?
[07:02] <nalioth> micro_girl: you will have to try different things til it works
[07:02] <micro_girl> how can I select different packages while just in the shell?
[07:03] <eythian> micro_girl: use aptitude, it's like synaptic but for the console
[07:03] <micro_girl> oh, ok
[07:03] <nalioth> micro_girl: i hate recommending this (cuz i personally dont use it or like it) but aptitude
[07:03] <micro_girl> brb
[07:03] <macgeek> nalioth: any suggestions on what to do?
[07:03] <tritium> nalioth: how can you not like aptitude?  ;)
[07:03] <nalioth> macgeek: the cd md5 checked out?
[07:03] <macgeek> wait i didnt check this time
[07:03] <macgeek> h/o
[07:04] <vladuz976> if i upgrade to 686 kernel will have to install drivers like nvidia again?
[07:04] <crimsun> vladuz976: did you compile them manually?
[07:04] <vladuz976> crimsun: no used the package from the repo
[07:04] <crimsun> then no, linux-686 takes care of that for you.
[07:05] <Davey> when I upgrade to Breezy, it *will* save my Xorg config etc, right?
[07:05] <crimsun> yes
[07:05] <vladuz976> crimsun: thanks
[07:05] <macgeek> nalioth: nope, md5 sums dont match
[07:05] <macgeek> its the same as it was last time i tried
[07:05] <Davey> cause I swear to god, if I have to set that up again, I will just switch to windows :)
[07:05] <Trashcan> :p
[07:05] <Trashcan> i'm glad mine worked off the bat, but I can't get working hardware acceleration
[07:06] <nalioth> macgeek: it's your burning software (unless you have slower speeds still untried)
[07:06] <Trashcan> and now I cant get working X :)
[07:06] <eythian> aptitude does one nice thing that synaptic doesn't seem to: mark packages that are installed as deps as auto-installed, so they're auto-removed if you uninstall the one that needed them.
[07:06] <luckyaba> anyone know of a howto for 2 graphics cards?
[07:06] <vladuz976> crimsun: but there is no k7 thing of the linux-686 ?
[07:06] <macgeek> nalioth: i've tried as slow as possible. mac os x's disk utility actually works, but it wont let me change the speed (its dimmed out)
[07:06] <macgeek> however, disk utility automatically checks the md5 sums (i think)
[07:07] <nalioth> macgeek: then try it in disk utility
[07:07] <crimsun> vladuz976: linux-k7?
[07:07] <ElBarono> is anyone else having CPU problems on a laptop after the last breezy update?
[07:07] <macgeek> nalioth: but i can't change the speed. the default is fast as possible
[07:08] <vladuz976> crimsun: sorry, i don't exactly know what k7 stands for i just thought that is for the amd i686 processors
[07:08] <crimsun> vladuz976: /proc/cpuinfo contains relevant information
[07:08] <Trashcan> X: cannot read /etc/X11/X symbolic link (Invalid argument), aborting.
[07:09] <Trashcan> :O
[07:09] <eythian> vladuz976: its for the 'newer' AMD type chips. eg my old Duon is a k6
[07:09] <Trashcan> maybe it's just me, but that sounds awful
[07:10] <Trashcan> ahh problem found: X11R6 is.....empty???
[07:10] <Trashcan> lovely.
[07:10] <nalioth> Trashcan: are you lookin in the right place?
[07:11] <Trashcan> /usr/X11R6
[07:11] <Trashcan> it's not *empty*
[07:11] <Trashcan> but theres none of what should be there
[07:11] <vladuz976> crimsun: thanks for the hint, but /proc/cpuinfo doesn't really help me figure out what k7 stands for
[07:11] <[LethAL] > k7 is for AMD cpus
[07:12] <crimsun> vladuz976: it helps you know whether you need a k7 kernel
[07:12] <vladuz976> [LethAL] : yeah but i didn't know for what amd processors. athlon, athlong xp, duron, sempron?
[07:13] <ibrasil> more one problem, i try to access my ntfs partition but i only obtain success with root user
[07:13] <crimsun> ibrasil: mount it with umask=022,uid=1000,gid=1000
[07:14] <eythian> vladuz976: you could install both -k6 and -k7, if k7 doesn't work, use -k6
[07:14] <ibrasil> ok
[07:14] <ibrasil> thanks
[07:14] <Trashcan> since the next option is a reformat, what command might I got about using to uninstall xserver-xorg?
[07:14] <Trashcan> :p
[07:14] <Trashcan> go about*
[07:14] <crimsun> why do you need to format?
[07:15] <snkcld> whats a good free c++ ide for debian?
[07:15] <Trashcan> all documents I can find about what 'X' should be linked to talk about files that are nonexistant
[07:15] <Trashcan> as far as I can tell my X install got hosed
[07:15] <nalioth> Trashcan: reformat is not an option
[07:15] <joe_> okay.  Has anyone else seen/heard of a system just stopping accessing files?
[07:15] <crimsun> snkcld: anjuta, emacs, vim, joe, kdevelop, ...
[07:15] <eythian> snkcld: kdevelop, or eclipse. Eclipse has a C++ plugin I think
[07:15] <Trashcan> nalioth: I'm a windows user, I'm used to reformatting monthly ;)
[07:15] <nalioth> Trashcan: apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg
[07:15] <Trashcan> thank ya sir
[07:16] <dooglus> vladuz976: the K stands for "Kryptonite", and 7 because it came after the K5 and K6...
[07:16] <nalioth> Trashcan: then "apt-get install xserver-xorg"
[07:16] <Trashcan> right
[07:16] <vladuz976> dooglus: thanks
[07:16] <nalioth> Trashcan: this isnt windows.
[07:16] <joe_> my computer downstairs cannot even run dpkg -i on a file
[07:16] <Trashcan> *heh heh*
[07:16] <dooglus> vladuz976: Kryptonite (AMD) is the only substance which could harm superman (Intel)
[07:17] <eythian> Trashcan: uninstalling xserver-xorg will probably remove ubunto-desktop. You'll want to reinstall that after.
[07:17] <Trashcan> us repo down?
[07:17] <Trashcan> unable to resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[07:18] <micro_girl> hi
[07:18] <micro_girl> listen, aptitude didn't worked either
[07:18] <eythian> micro_girl: how come?
[07:18] <micro_girl> it also needs other packages
[07:18] <joe_> trashcan: ping fatnsoft.com
[07:19] <Trashcan> touche
[07:19] <ryan_> anyone know why there is no php5-mcrypt package??
[07:19] <eythian> micro_girl: what other packages?
[07:19] <joe_> Trashcan: the repo is up.  Did you just upgrade your packages
[07:19] <Jedrick> hello room
[07:19] <dooglus> us.archive.ubuntu.com has address 82.211.81.151
[07:19] <Trashcan> yup
[07:19] <micro_girl> no idea, but only or 3 of them
[07:19] <micro_girl> I tried installing them, but I couldn't
[07:19] <Trashcan> problem: wireless card isn't initialized ;)
[07:19] <joe_> There's ome weird bug I think\
[07:19] <joe_> some weird bug
[07:20] <eythian> micro_girl: hmm. it might pay to note them down. Although, i don't see why it wouldn't be able to find them
[07:20] <joe_> Trashcan: can you open one of the admin programs (like the time one)
[07:20] <Trashcan> i'm rebooting atm
[07:20] <micro_girl> they are hard names
[07:20] <Trashcan> (recovery)
[07:21] <micro_girl> listen, how can i check which packages are currently selected?
[07:21] <joe_> Trashcan, could you get an address for fatnsoft.com?
[07:21] <eythian> micro_girl: in aptitude, they're coloured
[07:21] <Trashcan> lol
[07:21] <nalioth> micro_girl: selected or installed?
[07:21] <Trashcan> yes
[07:21] <micro_girl> selected
[07:21] <joe_> hmmm
[07:21] <micro_girl> eythian, I can't enter aptitude either!
[07:21] <vladuz976> crimsun: installed the linux-k7 and the stuff that came withit, rebooted, and seems to work just fine
[07:21] <eythian> micro_girl: ah. how come?
[07:21] <Trashcan> err you mean from the problem box, neg :p
[07:21] <micro_girl> I was trying to use an old ubuntu disk to install it, but it didn't worked either
[07:21] <joe_> Trashcan, it's my site, I just assumed no one had gone there, so it wouldn't be cached
[07:22] <Trashcan> 66.160.141.102
[07:22] <eythian> micro_girl: wait...do you not have internet access from the ubuntu box?
[07:22] <sumon> sinaptic
[07:22] <micro_girl> ? what do you mean by that ?
[07:22] <sumon> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:23] <eythian> micro_girl: well, is it failing because it can't find the packages, or because it can't download them?
[07:23] <micro_girl> o_O
[07:23] <micro_girl> oh, no idea
[07:23] <micro_girl> my problem is that i don't know if the places from where he downloads them are selected or not!
[07:23] <micro_girl> so, I wanted to check it!
[07:24] <sumon> i can't download pachages anymire
[07:24] <Jedrick> can i download mp3 songs in BitTorrent?
[07:24] <sumon> help
[07:24] <sumon> help
[07:24] <eythian> micro_girl: does it try to download them and fail? There is some noise about a repository being down.
[07:24] <eythian> Jedrick: yes
[07:24] <micro_girl> no
[07:24] <Trashcan> lollllllll
[07:24] <eythian> micro_girl: what does it say then?
[07:24] <Jedrick> eythian:  how?
[07:24] <sumon> something is wrong
[07:24] <Trashcan> pcmcia died :)
[07:25] <triumvarius> quick question: i just read through the Dual-Boot guide for win/ubuntu, and i'm wondering if anyone has had luck resizing existing NTFS partitions using ubuntus partition manager?
[07:25] <nalioth> Jedrick: we dont discuss things like that here, but any file can be d/l with bittorrent
[07:25] <sumon> nothing works
[07:25] <pupil> exit
[07:25] <eythian> Jedrick: find a torrent for what you want to download, open in in a bittorrent program, wait for it to download
[07:25] <sumon> can't download packages anymore
[07:25] <sumon> help
[07:25] <sumon> help
[07:25] <micro_girl> hum... "depends from X but couldn't install it" or something
[07:26] <nalioth> sumon: repeating isnt gonna help you. we need info on your problem
[07:26] <eythian> micro_girl: hrm. That is confusing.
[07:26] <nalioth> micro_girl is having sources.list problems it sounds like
[07:26] <micro_girl> yeah >_>
[07:26] <sumon> nalioth , W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:26] <sumon> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:26] <sumon> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:26] <sumon> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:26] <micro_girl> like I said, perhaps the places from where he takes them isn't selected
[07:26] <sumon> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:26] <sumon> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:27] <eythian> Jedrick: the internet has lots of them
[07:27] <Trashcan> starting PCMCIA services...
[07:27] <Trashcan> Failed to load pcmcia_core
[07:27] <Trashcan> lawl
[07:27] <joe_> the site is down
[07:27] <Jedrick> ok
[07:28] <ubuntu_> :)
[07:28] <eythian> micro_girl: do oyu see something similar to that junk that was pasted above?
[07:28] <micro_girl> no
[07:28] <nalioth> sumon: please dont paste in here
[07:28] <sumon> sorry
[07:28] <nalioth> sumon: the repositories are down atm
[07:28] <nalioth> sumon: try again in a few hours
[07:28] <noir> hi, um, did anybody knows how to change the desktop setting?
[07:28] <joe_> anyone here running amd64 edition?
[07:28] <sumon> oh ok..
[07:29] <xophEr> sure
[07:29] <Trashcan> that = strange... first the repos went down, so i restarted, and pcmcia is hosed? :p
[07:29] <noir> i mean, my home directory is my desktop, can anyone guide me to change that to a normal folder as usual?
[07:29] <triumvarius> two ?'s: anyone had luck with badger repartitioning NTFS partitions, and 2) does the amd64 version work with intel pentium D 830 64bit?
[07:29] <triumvarius> which is EMT64 i believe
[07:29] <eythian> micro_girl: hrm. I think I'm stumped.
[07:29] <nalioth> triumvarius: got the breezy livecd?
[07:29] <triumvarius> yes
[07:30] <triumvarius> the DVD combo version
[07:30] <micro_girl> can i install the missing packages from an old cd?
[07:30] <nalioth> triumvarius: install qtparted in your livecd and partition away
[07:30] <annex> Anyone else having problems reloading the servers via synaptic?  Like syncing with the package servers? (not sure if my terminalogy is correct)
[07:30] <Cool_Boy> hai
[07:30] <crimsun> the repository problem is being fixed right now.
[07:30] <noir> any ubuntu spanish IRC channel?
[07:30] <triumvarius> naliioth: so boot from livecd and qtparted is on there?
[07:30] <Trashcan> didn't the repos go down last sunday? :p
[07:30] <eythian> micro_girl: yeah, you should be able to. It might be a bit fiddly, but you should be able to dpkg -i them
[07:30] <Rotund> triumvarius, The Pentium D should be supported.  Try the live CD if it works, yes.  As far as repartitioning, I heard there were issues w/ it in the 2.6 kernel but that was months ago
[07:30] <nalioth> noir: #ubuntu-es
[07:30] <noir> cool
[07:30] <annex> crimsun: groovy, just seeing if it's on my end or not
[07:31] <crimsun> done.
[07:31] <noir> thanks nalioth
[07:31] <micro_girl> eythian, how on earth can i do that?
[07:31] <crimsun> they're all fixed.
[07:31] <triumvarius> thanks rotund
[07:31] <Trashcan> good job
[07:31] <nalioth> noir da nada
[07:31] <annex> thanks
[07:31] <micro_girl> :|
[07:31] <Rotund> repo back up
[07:31] <eythian> micro_girl: find the packages it says are missing, find them on the CD, and then use dpkg -i *filename* to install them
[07:32] <noir> thanks anyway
[07:32] <noir> c u around
[07:32] <crimsun> Rotund: see above.
[07:32] <micro_girl> o_O
[07:32] <micro_girl> that's too hard!
[07:32] <triumvarius> well if it goes awry, my dawg norton ghost has my back.. thanks all
[07:32] <micro_girl> what I meant was... can't i skip it until the step wherre I install the packages?
[07:33] <Trashcan> nalioth: i think '/lib/modules got f-ed up, too. reformat still not an option? :p'
[07:33] <eythian> micro_girl: oh, I see. I don't know. Probably. I think if you go into expert mode it gives you a menu, and one of them is install packages. You'll probably ned to go through the filesystem setup first though (just don't format)
[07:33] <nalioth> Trashcan: the remove and reinstall didnt work?
[07:33] <micro_girl> and how can I do that, "not to format"?
[07:33] <jwd> can someone really help me with this
[07:33] <eythian> Trashcan: the only time you need to format is when the filesystem is broke
[07:34] <jwd> my boot is hanging at checking battery state] 
[07:34] <Trashcan> nalioth: pcmcia is *dead* on reboot
[07:34] <Trashcan> pcmcia start = 'failed to load pcmcia_core'
[07:34] <nalioth> jwd: hit ctrl-c at that time
[07:34] <eythian> micro_girl: I think that it doesn't format by default unless you tell it to, and if it's going to it asks first.
[07:34] <jwd> trying now
[07:34] <bonee> a;;
[07:34] <micro_girl> :s ok....
[07:35] <micro_girl> listen, how can I check which repositories are selected, using a command line?
[07:35] <nalioth> micro_girl: cat /etc/apt/sources.list |more
[07:35] <eythian> micro_girl: less /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:35] <Trashcan> /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386 is lacking initrd, kernel, and madwifi (which are in -8-386)
[07:35] <pupil> [LethAL] , you still there?
[07:36] <micro_girl> and if some of them aren't selected, how can I select them?
[07:36] <dooglus> !tell micro_girl about repositories
[07:36] <pupil> I created an metacity.desktop session in /usr/share/xsessions
[07:36] <eythian> micro_girl: edit that file and remove the '#' before the name.
[07:36] <micro_girl> -_- that has nothing to do with my problem
[07:36] <nalioth> pupil: and that put you where?
[07:36] <micro_girl> oh, ok, thanks
[07:36] <micro_girl> i'll try it, brb
[07:37] <eythian> 'k
[07:37] <pupil> in the metacity.desktop file
[07:37] <pupil> I'm trying to start up the metacity,.
[07:37] <pupil> nalioth, I'm trying to get metacity up,. so I can apply the experience them,.
[07:37] <pupil> but I can't seem to find any documentation as to how to set it up
[07:37] <dooglus> pupil: do you know that metacity is the default GNOME window manager?
[07:38] <jwd> still hangs
[07:38] <nalioth> pupil: yes i dont think you need a metacity.desktop
[07:38] <jwd> I think its my video card
[07:38] <pupil> nalioth, oh,. ic
[07:38] <jwd> S3 TrioV64+
[07:38] <pupil> umm,. so how do I switch the theme over to experience,.
[07:38] <dooglus> pupil: if you run GNOME, you're almost certainly running metacity.  try a "pgrep metacity" to check
[07:38] <pupil> which is under gtk2 metacity
[07:38] <pupil> or am i confused
[07:38] <Licker> wich are better? Apache 2 vs. Apache 1 and PHP4 vs PHP3 for a server on Ubuntu?
[07:39] <pupil> 7574
[07:39] <pupil> not sure what that means
[07:39] <Freezey_45> hi
[07:40] <Freezey_45> im having a problem with changing the resolution of the screen
[07:40] <Freezey_45> its stuck in 640x480
[07:40] <Freezey_45> can any one help me
[07:40] <jwd> it will boot in to recovery mode
[07:40] <bonee> what u need
[07:41] <bonee> Freezey_45: what video card do u have
[07:41] <alyssa> Can anyone spare a moment to help a newbie get ndiswrapper to work under Breezy for AMD64? >.<
[07:41] <Freezey_45> its on board i think via
[07:41] <Freezey_45> ???
[07:42] <bonee> Freezey_45: are u sure it is supported by ubuntu
[07:42] <Trashcan> I'm just curious how pcmcia is broken :\
[07:42] <Trashcan> it worked a minute ago
[07:42] <Freezey_45> not sure
[07:42] <Freezey_45> how can i check
[07:42] <Madpilot> !tell Freezey_45 about fixres
[07:42] <bonee> look at the web site
[07:42] <Trashcan> and I can't see anything on google that would explain
[07:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Freezey_45 about fixres
[07:46] <n0odl3> hello
[07:46] <n0odl3> i tried to set my sound card to a different port and when i boot up a lot of stuff comes up
[07:46] <n0odl3> it keeps saying things like "invalid card number or something
[07:46] <n0odl3> does anyone have a solution to my sound card delimma
[07:47] <luckyaba> nalioth: you know of a howto for enabling my second graphics card... its sli 2 x nvidia 6600 gt?
[07:47] <pupil> nalioth, if you could take a look at the 4th theme, I'm trying to accomplish that,. how do I do it?
[07:47] <pupil> http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/987/
[07:49] <Trashcan> I'm *definately* thinkin the problem resides in my lack of /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel...or initrd... etc.
[07:49] <Trashcan> since, well, -8-386 is exactly the same, except that it has those
[07:50] <xophEr> how can I get the 'gnome-look' for vmware? now its that ugly gtk-default look..
[07:50] <Freezey_45> i ran the fixres but not working still will i have to restart
[07:50] <Trashcan> cool- copied the kernel folder over and pcmcia works :)
[07:50] <Trashcan> niftay
[07:52] <Licker> is there any program like Adobe PS to edit/animate graphics on linux?
[07:52] <nalioth> er luckyaba i'm not familiar with dual displays other than what's in the wiki
[07:52] <nalioth> pupil: what 4th theme?
[07:52] <pupil> http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/987/
[07:53] <Trashcan> experience
[07:53] <pupil> on that site
[07:53] <pupil> its called experience
[07:53] <[LethAL] > Why can't I install artwiz-cursor? Says it can't fine an alternative /etc/somewhere/core.theme
[07:53] <regeya> Licker, like animated GIFs?
[07:53] <regeya> Licker, GIMP.
[07:53] <Licker> yea.
[07:53] <AlphaFaction> any idea chaps? I cant seem to change the permissions of a fat32 hard drive in my system to '777' no matter what i do. alaska@andywarhol:~$ chmod 777 -R /media/hda does nothing
[07:53] <Licker> does that animate/has effects to create graphics?
[07:53] <pupil> Licker, Photoshop is like industry standard,. but gimp does do the job.
[07:54] <dmlinux> Hey guys any of you familiar with IPW2100 driver?
[07:54] <pupil> I have to give credit to the developers of gimp
[07:54] <Madpilot> Licker: GIMP has a bunch of filters and stuff, like PS, and it will do animated GIFs
[07:54] <regeya> afaik there's no tweens but it has the rudiments.  i don't do animation tho
[07:54] <Trashcan> bahhhh now my wifi is deda
[07:54] <Trashcan> dead*
[07:54] <Licker> oh allright thanx everyone.
[07:54] <nalioth> pupil: http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/experience/?branch_id=53574
[07:54] <Licker> oh is there anything better than Gimp?
[07:54] <n0odl3> uhhh
[07:54] <n0odl3> i need help
[07:55] <[LethAL] > Ask for it then
[07:55] <dmlinux> I downloaded this Driver patch, how do i install it? sorry guys noob question again
[07:55] <pupil> Licker, I think they would hav suggested it
[07:55] <Madpilot> Licker: GIMP is as good as it gets, for free
[07:55] <n0odl3> im looking through my device manager and it seems my card is detected
[07:55] <pupil> Madpilot, TRUE
[07:55] <n0odl3> but for somereason its not working
[07:55] <nalioth> pupil: there is a i386 deb at that page
[07:55] <[LethAL] > n0odl3, maybe it's muted?
[07:55] <n0odl3> it says the Device is unkown
[07:55] <pupil> nalioth, SWEETR
[07:55] <n0odl3> *"unknown"
[07:55] <pupil> nalioth, thank you
[07:55] <Licker> so what about for NOT free?
[07:56] <n0odl3> also the capabilities are "unknown
[07:56] <n0odl3> everyttime i boot up the alsa goes crazy
[07:56] <dmlinux> I downloaded this Driver patch, how do i install it? sorry guys noob question again
[07:56] <n0odl3> it keeps on saying "invalid card" or i think thats what it says
[07:57] <pupil> nalioth, how do I access it, from gnome themes,. or?
[07:57] <nalioth> pupil: download the deb, and install it
[07:57] <regeya> Licker, for not free...um...Crossover Office + PS?
[07:57] <jhank> hi guys, i was wondering whether there will be pda-support in breezy
[07:57] <nalioth> pupil: then you go to system > prefs > themes
[07:58] <Licker> they make PS for linux?
[07:58] <dmlinux> jhank thereis
[07:58] <jhank> how?
[07:58] <n0odl3> it keeps on saying the device is not found
[07:58] <dmlinux> jhank its built into the kernal
[07:58] <dmlinux> brb
[07:58] <jhank> but how can i sync my pda?
[07:58] <nalioth> pupil: when you are mucking about, always watch for the little word "dependency"
[07:58] <n0odl3> ?
[07:58] <jhank> e.g. with evolution
[07:58] <nalioth> Licker: PostScript?
[07:59] <regeya> no, Licker, but afaik Crossover Office can run it.  XOver Office is a fork of WINE.  Corel used to offer their full suite, but it used a WINE fork too.  Dunno other than those.
[07:59] <regeya> nalioth: howdy.  in htis case PS = Photoshop.
[07:59] <alyssa> I'm attempting to use ndiswrapper to get use of my wireless nic on a Breezy install. The included version wouldn't work with the 64 bit driver for my card (it could see it and could see the hardware, but wouldn't work at the modprobe step) So looking at the forums it seemed that getting the source and compiling ndiswrapper myself would work. I have all the included gcc packages installed, but I get a "gcc 3.4 command not found" error w
[07:59] <[LethAL] > !be
[07:59] <ubotu> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:59] <regeya> nalioth: in some circles, PS is an abbreviation of Photoshop.  confusing when those circles also work with PostScript. ;-)
[08:00] <Licker> kk. thanx
[08:00] <nalioth> alyssa: install gcc-3.4 if necessary, and then type "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" <enter> in the terminal window b4 you compile
[08:00] <[LethAL] > Why can't I access the NTFS partition I mounted in disks-admin?
[08:00] <alyssa> I can only find a source code version of gcc-3.4, and I don't know enough to configure it, build it, and compile it
[08:01] <pupil> it only changes the color of the windows,. it doesn't add icons and change the bars and all that.
[08:01] <Licker> also whats the program you can install that works with mySQL and acts like a text interface better than the standard?
[08:01] <[LethAL] > Compiling a compiler? -R!
[08:01] <pupil> nalioth, it only changes the color of the windows,. it does not change the task bars and menu bars and so forth
[08:02] <alyssa> Like I said, I'm a newb. But yes, from what I gather of the instructions that come with it it needs to be compiled. (tells me to do a make bootstrap. I can't get that to work though)
[08:02] <xophEr> what would 'export VMWARE_USE_SHIPPED_GTK=yes' do?
[08:02] <luckyaba> is 7500 FPS good for glx gears?
[08:02] <[LethAL] > luckyaba, how do you get the fps out of it?
[08:03] <luckyaba> [lethal] : i types "glxgears" into a terminal?
[08:03] <regeya> oh, Licker, here's something, but I've not tested it:  http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/gimp-gap  I should install this and see how well it works.
[08:03] <nalioth> pupil: that was the core. now go back and the the link you sent me
[08:03] <[LethAL] > luckyaba, Doesn't mention any fps
[08:04] <luckyaba> 37670 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7534.000 FPS
[08:04] <luckyaba> 37837 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7567.400 FPS
[08:04] <luckyaba> 37945 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7589.000 FPS
[08:04] <[LethAL] > No pasteage!
[08:04] <nalioth> luckyaba: no pasting please
[08:04] <luckyaba> sorry
[08:04] <pupil> nalioth, ok,. Im at the link,. now what?
[08:04] <nalioth> pupil: click on 'experience' and get the tar.gz
[08:04] <pupil> nalioth, I have the tar.gz
[08:05] <[LethAL] > luckyaba, odd, I just ran it for 30s, nothing
[08:05] <nalioth> pupil: then open it and read anything readable inside
[08:05] <glDaher> Hi, I have a server running ubuntu 32-bit ... the hardware however is AMD64 .. I'm considering an upgrade.. now if I just backup my /etc and /var trees would everything go back to normal? I have apache2 configured for two virtual hosts. and I have a mysql database. I don't want to lose them.
[08:05] <luckyaba> [lethal] : are you in ubuntu?
[08:05] <pupil> nalioth, ok
[08:05] <pupil> nalioth, lol
[08:05] <luckyaba> [lethal] : are yuou using breezy?
[08:06] <[LethAL] > luckyaba, yes
[08:06] <luckyaba> [lethal] : yeah i had that installed a few days ago and it wouldn't show for me either
[08:06] <Madpilot> regeya & Licker: gimp-gap is in the Ubuntu repos, no need to use the Debian package
[08:06] <starscalling> hrm
[08:07] <Licker> repos?
[08:07] <luckyaba> can anyone tell me what a good glxgears FPS is?
[08:07] <starscalling> would anyone mind giving their opinion on why ubuntu is better than debian?
[08:07] <Trashcan> nalioth: how do i enable dhcp on an interface?
[08:07] <Licker> <still noob at linux
[08:07] <nalioth> Trashcan: idk
[08:07] <Licker> im still getting used to linux Talk vs. WIN talk
[08:07] <[LethAL] > Trashcan, sudo dhclient
[08:07] <Trashcan> thanks leth
[08:07] <[LethAL] > That's temp though
[08:07] <Trashcan> NO Idea why this isn't working
[08:07] <cevizoglu> is there a command-line player which plays .m4a songs?
[08:07] <[LethAL] > It's in notwork-admin
[08:07] <mahangu> Trashcan, sudo dhclient <iface>
[08:07] <mahangu> for e.g - sudo dhclient eth1
[08:07] <Trashcan> modules I know was changed, but other than that only X was touched
[08:08] <Trashcan> right
[08:08] <mahangu> else it sends DHCPREQUESTS on every network device
[08:08] <Trashcan> and now i had to mess with pcmcia, and my wifi is deaad
[08:08] <nalioth> cevizoglu: you'll need libfaac and libfaad and gstreamer-blah-faac
[08:09] <Trashcan> alright, it's sending DHCPDISCOVER to 255.255.255.255
[08:09] <Trashcan> no DHCPOFFERS received
[08:10] <[LethAL] > Trashcan, ouch, can you do it manually?
[08:10] <Trashcan> static IP it?
[08:10] <[LethAL] > s/it/set your ip/
[08:11] <[LethAL] > Ye, that
[08:11] <Trashcan> humm, let me try
[08:11] <[LethAL] > ifconfig iface ip
[08:11] <[LethAL] > :)
[08:11] <Trashcan> this card brings up two interfaces, wifi0 and eth1
[08:11] <[LethAL] > O.O
[08:11] <Trashcan> not sure which to use
[08:11] <Trashcan> :o
[08:11] <Trashcan> the other card only brings up eth1
[08:11] <[LethAL] > You probably have onboard nic
[08:11] <Trashcan> but this one worked before
[08:11] <Trashcan> ahh so that's what eth1 is
[08:11] <[LethAL] > Probably
[08:12] <Trashcan> my router is using mac addr restriction, and i allowed the mac on eth1
[08:12] <Trashcan> and it worked
[08:12] <Trashcan> so I don't see how that works
[08:12] <[LethAL] > lol
[08:12] <[LethAL] > My router uses Mac too
[08:12] <[LethAL] > mac restriction rather
[08:13] <Trashcan> alright, I set my ip to the one i remember being leased earlier
[08:13] <[LethAL] > Good one :)
[08:13] <Trashcan> PING 192.168.1.1
[08:13] <Trashcan> Destination host unreachable
[08:13] <[LethAL] > O.o
[08:13] <[LethAL] > Sounds like WLAN drivers problem
[08:14] <ompaul> Trashcan, ping != PING
[08:14] <Trashcan> probably
[08:14] <mahangu> trashcan ping
[08:14] <mahangu> lowercase
[08:14] <Trashcan> i know
[08:14] <Trashcan> PING is what it shows in the result
[08:14] <mahangu> :)
[08:14] <glDaher> nobody ever backed up his machine?
[08:14] <[LethAL] > PING isn't a command
[08:14] <Trashcan> I did, apparently not the right things :)
[08:14] <[LethAL] > :P
[08:14] <bob2> glDaher: with rsync, of course
[08:14] <bob2> if you're debugging WLAN things, disable all AP restrictions as a first step
[08:14] <[LethAL] > Trashcan, msg me the output of route
[08:15] <[LethAL] > And I agree with bob2
[08:15] <Trashcan> aye
[08:15] <bob2> if it then works, start adding things back
[08:15] <pupil> [LethAL] , you tried using the experience theme,. I installed the deb package but I don't know how to change the menu's and the icons to fit the theme
[08:15] <Trashcan> weird that it worked just a few minutes ago
[08:15] <[LethAL] > That's how I got mine working
[08:15] <Trashcan> i'm sure its drivers
[08:15] <nalioth> bob2: you are THE man
[08:15] <glDaher> bob2:  wanna ask this, if I simply copied my /etc and /var /home paths, am I done ?
[08:15] <[LethAL] > pupil, use gnome-art instead
[08:15] <Trashcan> but i didn't install any special drivers earlier
[08:15] <Trashcan> it *just worked*
[08:16] <bob2> glDaher: is that all you care about?
[08:16] <bob2> glDaher: do you care that each backup uses the full amount of space?
[08:16] <bob2> nalioth: but I'm only 13!
[08:16] <Trashcan> lol
[08:16] <ompaul> Trashcan, does  ifconfig give you an 192.168.* ip? and if so which one?
[08:16] <pupil> [LethAL] , is that a package i have to install?
[08:16] <Trashcan> .1.128, same as i was leased earlier
[08:16] <bob2> glDaher: I hear duplicity is quite pimp
[08:17] <bob2> tho I've not had time or disk space to use it
[08:17] <[LethAL] > pupil, you don't have to, makes themes easy as hell
[08:17] <glDaher> bob2: no, I don't need incremental, I just want a mirror of the current server..
[08:17] <[LethAL] > but it makes*
[08:17] <nalioth> pupil: gnome-art.com i believe is what he meant
[08:17] <nalioth> pupil: the FAQs there
[08:17] <bob2> glDaher: rsync of those dirs is a good start then
[08:17] <[LethAL] > nalioth, no, the package
[08:17] <ompaul> Trashcan, how many manchines on the lan?
[08:17] <lampshade> I have breezy but my Nvidia binary driver install has failed miserably.  Any ideas?  Generic X error message about devie not found or not present or something like that.  Trying to use the nvidia driver.  Worked before with 5.04 lspci does show the card.  Any ideas?
[08:17] <bob2> lampshade: and the card is...?
[08:17] <Trashcan> ompaul: 1 (this one) and the laptop im trying to get working
[08:17] <bob2> lampshade: and you're not using the ubuntu nvidia drivers why...?
[08:18] <Trashcan> others (5) are off
[08:18] <xophEr> What package does GTK+ 2.4 come with?
[08:18] <Trashcan> i'm not sure why it was leasing such a high number, thats a diff. problem to address
[08:18] <bob2> xophEr: you already have it installed
[08:18] <bob2> xophEr: do you mean "GTK header files"?
[08:18] <ompaul> Trashcan, maybe you should do dhcp and let it choose the ip for that mac address
[08:18] <glDaher> bob2: what I want to last ask abotu is that... /etc and /var and /home will take users... daemon settings and mysql databases, is it this way?
[08:18] <lampshade> lampshade: I am I thought?  At least how could I not be?  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx?  Is there something else I'm missing?  I got nothing?  I did notice that it didn't seem to change my xorg.conf at all so I manually changed the driver to nvidia, is that incorrect?
[08:18] <[LethAL] > ompaul, Trashcan's dhcp doesn't work
[08:18] <Trashcan> dhcp is failing, no DHCPOFFERS received
[08:18] <lampshade> ugh that was for bob2
[08:18] <bob2> glDaher: yes, but it's not generally safe to just copy files with rsync
[08:18] <pupil> [LethAL] , where do I find this gnome-art
[08:18] <gtd> anybody here uses del.icio.us?
[08:18] <bob2> lampshade: and the card is?
[08:18] <[LethAL] > pupil, synaptic :)
[08:19] <pupil> found it
[08:19] <bob2> glDaher: e.g. copying mysql's data files while it's running will almost certainly not work
[08:19] <scanwinder> does anyone know where i can find a good tutorial on using NFS for fileshareing in linux?
[08:19] <lampshade> bob2: Nvidia Geforce2 ti I think  99% sure
[08:19] <bob2> lampshade: yay nvidia
[08:19] <xophEr> bob2, well something I need in order to be able to ./configure an application.. it tells me 'checking for GLIB - version >= 2.4.0... no
[08:19] <xophEr> ' --- 'configure: error: *** GTK+ >= 2.4.0 not installed - please install first ***
[08:19] <xophEr> '
[08:19] <bob2> lampshade: pretty sure they stopped supporting them in the new version of the drivers
[08:19] <lampshade> bob2: Oh seriously??
[08:19] <bob2> xophEr: that would have been a better first question for you to ask; install libgtk2.0-dev
[08:19] <lampshade> hahah that
[08:20] <[LethAL] > lampshade, you need the -legacy package
[08:20] <paulproteus|home> scanwinder: http://www.ba.infn.it/calcolo/documenti/NFSServer.html looks okay.
[08:20] <bob2> xophEr: tho you probably will end needing gnome-devel; what are you compiling?
[08:20] <xophEr> allright, thanks :)
[08:20] <Furesho> pat me on the back, folks. i'm now runnin ubuntu in dual boot WITH audio! ^__^
[08:20] <ompaul> Trashcan, is the machine your on running Linux now?
[08:20] <[LethAL] > lol
[08:20] <xophEr> itouch plugin for bmp among other things..
[08:20] <Trashcan> nope ompaul
[08:20] <Trashcan> XP pro
[08:20] <lampshade> [LethAL] : Explain more ;)  legacy.... huh what?    I mean it is obviously an older one but how do I specify that to apt-get do I need to change source or ?
[08:20] <ompaul> Trashcan, I wish you look
[08:20] <Trashcan> :p
[08:20] <scanwinder> paulproteus|home: thanks
[08:20] <ompaul> luck even
[08:21] <nalioth> scanwinder: ask uncle google, there are several out there
[08:21] <Trashcan> to be honest I'm OK with a full reinstall, I have a cd right next to me and not much was customized
[08:21] <[LethAL] > lampshade, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:21] <[LethAL] > iir
[08:21] <[LethAL] > c
[08:21] <Trashcan> theme and icon pack, installed a few packages
[08:21] <lampshade> [LethAL] : Thanks, already removing
[08:21] <nalioth> Trashcan: go d000d! give in to the evil impulses, lol
[08:21] <glDaher> bob2: thanks. I'm reading about rsync now :)
[08:21] <Trashcan> and even if I get this working, god knows what else is f***ed ;)
[08:21] <[LethAL] > lampshade, although I know nothing about the nvidia-legacy drivers...
[08:22] <[LethAL] > Trashcan, if you get it working, type !applaud :-)
[08:22] <Trashcan> lol
[08:22] <Trashcan> <-- very angry that installing VIDEO drivers did this
[08:22] <[LethAL] > Hehe
[08:22] <Trashcan> killed PCMCIA, networking, AND X in one fell swoop
[08:22] <bob2> glDaher: rsync won't help you with databases, tho, you need to find a mysql-specific tool to dump the db
[08:22] <[LethAL] > Ouch
[08:22] <ompaul> Trashcan, did you enable backports?
[08:22] <Trashcan> nope
[08:22] <seethru> hmm weird...anyone know what would cause this mplayer error? -> MPlayer interrupted by signal 8 in module: decode_video
[08:23] <thompa> anybody got kde on breezy?
[08:23] <Trashcan> can someone /msg the result of ls /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/ to me?
[08:23] <nalioth> thompa: ask in #kubuntu
[08:23] <Pickle_Weasel> what port does vncviewer use?
[08:23] <[LethAL] > 5900
[08:23] <thompa> well no
[08:23] <Trashcan> if they have the appropriate folder
[08:23] <ompaul> thompa, those who do did kubuntu-desktop from the off more than likely
[08:23] <thompa> im on ubuntu
[08:23] <Pickle_Weasel> 5900? that's to my question?
[08:23] <[LethAL] > Trashcan, I have the k7 version, if that helps
[08:23] <[LethAL] > Pickle_Weasel, yes
[08:23] <Pickle_Weasel> thank you ^.^
[08:23] <nalioth> thompa: there is a channel just for kubuntu called #kubuntu
[08:23] <glDaher> bob2: mysqldump -u root -p mydatabase > file.sql.bak will do it :)
[08:24] <[LethAL] > Pickle_Weasel, by default and iirc
[08:24] <thompa> but as soon as i dinstalled kde my logout screen is missing buttons
[08:24] <Trashcan> meh lethal, if you don't mind..
[08:24] <thompa> installed sorry
[08:24] <iru> why does ubuntu install postfix when i only want to install mysql ?
[08:24] <glDaher> I'll try to make a program that simulates it :)
[08:24] <thompa> my log out screen has text but i cant choose options anymore
[08:24] <bob2> iru: because mysql needs to be able to email you?
[08:25] <bob2> iru: if you don't want postfix, install a different MTA
[08:25] <portiz> helo
[08:25] <thompa> im just wondering if anybody else has the problem
[08:25] <[LethAL] > thompa, is it GDM or KDM?
[08:25] <iru> bob2: ok will try that, thanks ..
[08:26] <thompa> it probably switched to kdm i dont know
[08:26] <portiz> somebody help me. how can i download yahoo messenger in ubuntu
[08:26] <bob2> portiz: don't
[08:26] <iru> bob2: but i got a gut feeling that thats not it
[08:26] <[LethAL] > portiz, use gaim
[08:26] <bob2> portiz: use gaim
[08:26] <thompa> how can i tell?
[08:26] <mahangu-study> portiz, ubuntu comes with gaim
[08:26] <bob2> iru: if you say so
[08:26] <luckyaba> potiz: gaim has support for yahoo
[08:26] <bob2> iru: also, postfix is installed by default
[08:26] <spackest> anyone had any luck with mod_log_spread on apache2 in 5.04?
[08:27] <[LethAL] > Could someone tell me why I can't install artwiz-cursor? It says something about not being able to find an alternative core.theme file somewhere
[08:27] <Trashcan> obvious tip to everyone here: see if an install script does anything regarding the deletion of your kernel modules :)
[08:27] <thompa> log out screen is a white box with test now
[08:27] <joetheodd> Hey, how do you play a wmv?
[08:27] <[LethAL] > thompa, sounds weird...
[08:27] <thompa> text sorry. its dark here cant type well
[08:27] <lampshade> bob2: I just apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy but it is still failing to load the nvidia kernel module when I try to startx  any ideas?  Is there anything besides the driver that I need to change in my xorg?
[08:27] <bob2> joetheodd: /msg ubotu restricted
[08:28] <bob2> lampshade: apt-cache search --names-only linux-restricted legacy
[08:28] <thompa> also on previous boot i got a blank screen
[08:28] <bob2> lampshade: install the one that matches your "uname -r" output
[08:28] <nathanj> how do i get divx?
[08:28] <lampshade> bob2: K will do, thanks in advance
[08:28] <[LethAL] > !tell nathanj about divx
[08:28] <thompa> maybe should not have installed kde
[08:28] <[LethAL] > thompa, one mo
[08:28] <portiz> luckyaba :whats the solution to download yahoo in ubuntu?
[08:29] <nalioth> HedgeMage: howdy
[08:29] <[LethAL] > thompa, Press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and login, then "sudo apt-get purge gdm; sudo apt-get install gdm"
[08:29] <bob2> portiz: why do you want yahoo messenger instead of gaim?
[08:29] <thompa> thanks
[08:29] <spackest> portiz: download yahoo!, you mean like wget? :)
[08:29] <nathanj> how do i change my resps so i have everything? should i turn on universe and unrestricted?
[08:29] <[LethAL] > thompa, then, when that's done, type sudo gdm
[08:29] <thompa> ok
[08:30] <[LethAL] > !tell nathanj about repos
[08:30] <pupil> what do I use to unzip bz2
[08:30] <bob2> iru: it appears to not be installed by default anymore, but if you're running a server you do need some sort of MTA
[08:30] <bob2> [LethAL] : you never run that
[08:30] <nalioth> pupil: bzip2
[08:30] <portiz> because people know more about yahoo.
[08:30] <bob2> pupil: bunzip2
[08:30] <bob2> portiz: that's a useless reason. what does gaim not do?
[08:30] <nalioth> pupil: is it a bz2 or a tar.bz2?
[08:30] <portiz> what is a gaim is it also a program like yahoo?
[08:30] <[LethAL] > thompa, sorr, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:30] <[LethAL] > sorry&
[08:30] <bob2> portiz: yes
[08:30] <spackest> portiz: I use gaim to talk via yahoo! pretty well everyday
[08:30] <[LethAL] > bob2, that better? ^^
[08:30] <pupil> tar.bz2,.
[08:30] <Trashcan> portiz: gaim is for yahoo/aim/msn/jabber/icq all together
[08:30] <bob2> yes
[08:30] <portiz> can you give me the links
[08:30] <[LethAL] > :)
[08:30] <Trashcan> (i think icq)
[08:30] <spackest> I am using it right now
[08:31] <nalioth> pupil: tar xvjf file.tbz
[08:31] <HedgeMage> nalioth: hi there
[08:31] <thompa> LethAl: thanks will try it
[08:31] <spackest> portiz: apt-get install gaim
[08:31] <lampshade> bob2: Is already the newest version  :-/  hrmmm
[08:31] <[LethAL] > !info bob2
[08:31] <nalioth> HedgeMage: seein how the other half lives?
[08:31] <bob2> lampshade: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name "*nvidia*"
[08:31] <[LethAL] > :/
[08:31] <Trashcan> is there a way to take a snapshot of your system (like 'create restore point' in windows) *without* using ghost?
[08:32] <bob2> Trashcan: I really doubt ghost  can do that
[08:32] <nalioth> Trashcan: dpkg -l > mybox.txt
[08:32] <bob2> Trashcan: LVM snapshots let you take an exact atomic filesystem snapshot
[08:32] <Trashcan> that's what ghost is for..
[08:32] <bob2> Trashcan: I really doubt ghost can take an atomic system snapshot at run time
[08:32] <Trashcan> ghost = hdd image
[08:32] <holden> Hey, I've a problem with amsn -- it gets stuck every time I click on connect, and then i force it quit and then i can't load it again....
[08:32] <bob2> if you have to boot into ghost to do it, then it's useless
[08:33] <Trashcan> oh well, that's what i mean
[08:33] <bob2> Trashcan: then ghost is useless, use "dd if=/dev/hda"
[08:33] <bob2> unix has supported that out of the box since 1492
[08:33] <Trashcan> lol, niice
[08:33] <HedgeMage> nalioth: I'm giving ubuntu a try because I'm considering putting my mom on it.  I used to reccommend Mandrake to newbies, but I don't like some of the changes since the whole Mandriva thing.
[08:33] <Trashcan> thanks bob :)
[08:33] <lampshade> bob2: Got 3 results.
[08:33] <portiz> spackest: what the command for instaling gaim?
[08:33] <nalioth> HedgeMage: well welcome and dont be afraid to ask us a thing
[08:33] <bob2> lampshade: here then
[08:34] <[LethAL] > portiz, sudo apt-get install gaim
[08:34] <Trashcan> portiz: sudo apt-get install gaim
[08:34] <Trashcan> <-- win
[08:34] <Trashcan> :p
[08:34] <[LethAL] > Actually, I did
[08:34] <bob2> Trashcan: that's rarely useful, tho, since I don't think there has ever been a bug in a debian or ubuntu package that damaged your filesystem
[08:34] <spackest> portiz: apt-get install gaim or sudo apt-get install gaim should install gaim for you
[08:34] <HedgeMage> nalioth: why is the earth round?  Oh! You meant ask you about ubuntu! ;P
[08:34] <tritium> gaim should already be there
[08:34] <[LethAL] > Well we know the ultimate answer
[08:34] <nalioth> HedgeMage: we can discuss the world in #freenode or #ubuntu-offtopic, heh
[08:34] <lampshade> bob2: You mean type them in here?
[08:34] <bam_> got a question bout java
[08:34] <Madpilot> 42, of course
[08:34] <bam_> anyone?
[08:35] <thompa> didnt work seems gdm is running already
[08:35] <bob2> lampshade: I mean show us what it printed
[08:35] <nathanj> why is there no breezy binary universe?
[08:35] <[LethAL] > !meaning of life
[08:35] <ubotu> it has been said that meaning of life is 42
[08:35] <nalioth> bam_: we're waiting
[08:35] <spackest> whatcha got?
[08:35] <bob2> bam_: it's way less annoying if you just ask
[08:35] <[LethAL] > nathanj, there is...
[08:35] <spackest> bam: whatcha got
[08:35] <bob2> nathanj: of course there is
[08:35] <Trashcan> bob2: i just had a driver install wipe out my /lib/modules/-9-386 folder :p
[08:35] <portiz> trashcan:where should i type that?
[08:35] <bam_> well anytime i make a link to a jar file it refuses to execute
[08:35] <Trashcan> portiz: open a terminal
[08:35] <[LethAL] > portiz, in a terminal
[08:35] <HedgeMage> nalioth: my first question is this: why didn't it ask me for a root pw during set up?
[08:35] <bob2> Trashcan: from outside ubuntu?
[08:35] <[LethAL] > Trashcan, same second AGAIN
[08:35] <bob2> bam_: do you have a JRE installed?
[08:35] <Trashcan> bob2: was not official, yes
[08:35] <bam_> yes
[08:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell HedgeMage about root
[08:35] <wickedpuppy> !sudo
[08:35] <holden> Which one is better, amsn or gaim??
[08:35] <thompa> didnt work gdm is running already
[08:35] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:36] <bob2> holden: neither
[08:36] <spackest> I like gaim
[08:36] <[LethAL] > !better
[08:36] <bob2> holden: gaim is a lot more popular, tho
[08:36] <ubotu> Better for what? Better for whom? Why don't you try them all, then decide for yourself?
[08:36] <bob2> Trashcan: right
[08:36] <portiz> sori but im a new user of this can u give me where can i find these terminal?
[08:36] <nalioth> HedgeMage: meet ubotu our helpful infobot
[08:36] <bob2> portiz: if you installed ubuntu, you already have gaim
[08:36] <Trashcan> lethal you can have this one- can't look at my menu right now :)
[08:36] <holden> bob2 : I'm just having these recurrent problems with amsn that it gets stuck for no reason
[08:36] <bob2> portiz: applications -> internet -> gaim
[08:36] <nathanj> reps is confusing :o
[08:36] <nalioth> portiz: applications > system tools > terminal
[08:36] <Pickle_Weasel> how can i keep gnome from grouping similar processes in the taskbar? =\
[08:36] <poningru> HedgeMage: The earth is round because due to rotation everything must be as close to equidistance to the center of the mass so when the earth (or any other large liquid object) cooled down and was spinning it assumed almost spherical shape, does that answer your question HedgeMage?
[08:36] <spackest> bam_: what java are you using?
[08:36] <portiz> thanks to all
[08:36] <bob2> nathanj: a repository is just a bunch of packages that apt can install
[08:36] <thompa> LethAl: gdm is already running, more of an annoyance but everything still works
[08:37] <portiz> i will try it
[08:37] <spackest> bam_: jre and jdk
[08:37] <bob2> Pickle_Weasel: did you check out the window list options?
[08:37] <bam_> the latest in the repository
[08:37] <nathanj> bob2: but with my current settings there are just basic apps
[08:37] <Pickle_Weasel> no, i don't know where to find them >.>
[08:37] <dooglus> I have a lot of errors from debsums: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2904 : any idea why?
[08:37] <Trashcan> poningru: that's not really debian/ubuntu related
[08:37] <bob2> bam_: that's not useful; what in particular did you install?
[08:37] <[LethAL] > thompa, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:37] <poningru> Trashcan: I know but the guy was making fun of nalioth
[08:37] <bam_> it will execute on double clicking the jar file
[08:37] <Trashcan> oh
[08:37] <thompa> ok
[08:37] <Trashcan> ok
[08:37] <bob2> nathanj: then tell apt about some more.../etc/apt/sources.list already has multiverse and universe listed byt commented out
[08:37] <HedgeMage> poningru: I take it you're the straight man in this comedy team?  ;)
[08:37] <bam_> with no problems
[08:38] <Pickle_Weasel> where are the window list options?
[08:38] <Trashcan> lol @ battery died during install
[08:38] <Trashcan> this isn't my night
[08:38] <Trashcan> ;)
[08:38] <nalioth> poningru: HedgeMage is a friend of mine from #freenode
[08:38] <spackest> bam_: JAVA_HOME and CLASSPATH all good?
[08:38] <poningru> nalioth: oops
[08:38] <bam_> but forge trying to execute via link
[08:38] <poningru> thought he was making fun of you
[08:38] <bob2> dooglus: the aspell and linux-image ones look ignorable, but the missing files is odd
[08:38] <bob2> dooglus: anything about your disks exploding in dmesg?
[08:38] <bam_> spackest, dunno, jar file execute
[08:38] <HedgeMage> poningru: she, and no I wasn't, nalioth likes my abuse :P
[08:39] <spackest> bam_: sorry to say, but I never got java to really work with anything beside sun's java
[08:39] <lampshade> bob2: lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko [same dirs] /kernel/drivers/video/nvidia [same dirs] /kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/nvidia.ko
[08:39] <bob2> hah
[08:39] <bam_> im using jpluckx and it executes with no issues as long as i double click the *.jar executable
[08:40] <dmlinux> hey guys, just downloaded the Limewire RPM for linux. How do i install it?
[08:40] <bob2> dmlinux: easier to not bother
[08:40] <bam_> but if I create a link or a panel shortcut it doesnt execute
[08:40] <bob2> dmlinux: and just get the tarball instead
[08:40] <dmlinux> bob2 where can i find the tarball?
[08:40] <nalioth> dmlinux: on the limewire page
[08:40] <dooglus> bob2: I can account for the gamin one - I recompied the gamin server with debugging enabled.
[08:41] <dooglus> bob2: I don't care about aspell, but the linux kernel modules having been changed is worrying isn't it?
[08:41] <nathanj> bob2: what are the source ones?
[08:41] <Trashcan> meh, time to grab a bag of chips and install ubuntu for the 5th time :)
[08:41] <dooglus> bob2: nothing about disk errors, no.
[08:41] <bob2> dooglus: the're not modules, they're index files
[08:41] <bob2> nathanj: leave them, you don't need source packages for now
[08:42] <dmlinux> nalioth i dont see a tarball ., isee a linux (RPM) which is what i downloaded
 woooooot i can install black&white2 while ubuntu installs :D
[08:42] <dmlinux> Nalioth i dont evenknow what a tarball is
[08:42] <vengeful> yucky rpm ;-)
[08:42] <Trashcan> has anyone looked at luminocity (wobbly windows) under breezy's gnome yet?
[08:42] <nalioth> dmlinux: something with .tar.gz or .tgz on the end
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> dmlinux, *.tar.gz <-- tarball
[08:42] <dooglus> Pickle_Weasel: did you find the option yet?
[08:42] <portiz> i try to connect its says my username is disconnectted
[08:43] <bob2> dmlinux: http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther
[08:43] <Pickle_Weasel> no >.>
[08:43] <HedgeMage> nalioth: how complicated is creating ubuntu packages compared to other distros?  Does ubuntu just use debian's system?
[08:43] <tritium> HedgeMage: yes, it does.
[08:43] <HedgeMage> tritium: thanks
[08:43] <dooglus> Pickle_Weasel: see the stripy thing just to the left of the window list?  right-click it and say 'properties'
[08:43] <nalioth> HedgeMage: yes
[08:43] <dmlinux> nalioth how do i run it ?
[08:43] <dooglus> Pickle_Weasel: oops, I went over all windowsy there.  I means 'preferences'
[08:43] <Trashcan> lol
[08:43] <nalioth> dmlinux: one opens tar.gz with file-roller or tar (in a console)
[08:43] <lampshade> bob2: Alright I got nothing...  any ideas left in you?
[08:43] <nathanj> bob2: can i see ya sources.list
[08:44] <No1Viking> Hello: Seems my Java installation is broken and I can not get a new one, any ideas?
[08:44] <dooglus> Pickle_Weasel: found it?
[08:44] <portiz> TRASHCAN: i cant log in to gaim its says my username is disconnected
[08:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nathanj about sources
[08:44] <Pickle_Weasel> lol yes, thank you =D
[08:44] <bob2> lampshade: what does dmesg say?
[08:44] <bob2> nathanj: mine is of no use to you, since it uses local and inaccessible mirrors
[08:45] <bob2> nathanj: it mostly only points at main, restricted, universe and multiverse, tho
[08:45] <luckyaba> portiz: do you have gaim?
[08:45] <nalioth> nathanj: ubotu sent you a msg
[08:45] <lampshade> bob2: A bunch of messages about it being supported through the legacy nvidia driver then no nvidia adapter found
[08:46] <nathanj> nalioth: i tryed that but the apps just chucked fit
[08:46] <dmlinux> nalioth sudo install /home/limewire/runLime.sh?
[08:46] <thechitowncubs> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wxversion.py', which is also in package wxpython2.5.3
[08:46] <No1Viking> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2906  <--- Any ideas?
[08:46] <thechitowncubs> I keep getting that error in breezy
[08:46] <portiz> luckyaba: yes i already add my username but im always disconnected
[08:46] <thechitowncubs> what the hell is going on
[08:46] <bob2> lampshade: dpkg -L whateveryouinstalledbefore-legacy | grep modules
[08:46] <nalioth> dmlinux: no, just /home/dmlinux/limewire/runlime.sh
[08:47] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: easy bubba
[08:47] <thechitowncubs> nalioth,
[08:47] <thechitowncubs> ya
[08:47] <thechitowncubs> im just confuzzled
[08:47] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: use dpkg to force it
[08:47] <thechitowncubs> what exactly do i need to do
[08:48] <luckyaba> portiz: go to accounts.. add your yahoo account
[08:48] <lampshade> bob2: Nothing right now but I just removed them right before you told me to dpkg -L for them
[08:48] <luckyaba> portiz: then just login and it should work
[08:48] <No1Viking> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2906  <--- Any ideas?
[08:48] <wormboy> how do i compile some stuff on ubuntu
[08:48] <wormboy> i dont have the gcc/cc
[08:48] <wormboy> :(
[08:48] <portiz> what protocol i should choose? luckyaba
[08:48] <No1Viking> Where can I get sun-j2re1.5
[08:48] <No1Viking> ?
[08:48] <thechitowncubs> !java
[08:48] <ubotu> I guess java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[08:48] <drummer87> hey, i need some help with samba.. i can read files from an xp maching, but the permissions are read only and i can't change them :(
[08:48] <bob2> lampshade: er
[08:48] <thechitowncubs> !w32codecs
[08:49] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[08:49] <drummer87> any ideas?
[08:49] <tritium> wormboy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:49] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: (and everyone else) at the risk of breaking your system, "sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb"
[08:49] <tritium> wormboy: then build away
[08:49] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: we've advanced since you last visited
[08:49] <Parisi> Hmm
[08:49] <dmlinux> nalioth hmm says there is no such file or dir
[08:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell No1Viking about javadeb
[08:49] <luckyaba> portiz: yahoo?
[08:49] <nalioth> dmlinux: execute the runlime.sh
[08:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thechitowncubs about javadeb
[08:49] <thechitowncubs> nalioth, very nice
[08:50] <dmlinux> nalioth :( how do i do that. im a noob ,
[08:50] <lampshade> bob2: Long story short tried just the nvidia-glx that failed long ago you mentioned to try legacy.  I installed nvidia-glx-legacy still no go  then we went through our troubleshooting I've removed nvidia-glx-legacy out of frustration... and now we are to where we are  technically I should not have any nvidia stuff installed at this moment
[08:50] <cowbud> How can I make it so that nautilus will not puke at text files that have different extensions like .nfo and .m3u?
[08:50] <nalioth> dmlinux: hit alt-f2 and browse for runlime.sh
[08:51] <luckyaba> portiz: protocol will be yahoo and then just enter your username and  password
[08:51] <bob2> lampshade: ?
[08:51] <portiz> luckyaba: my account is ed2rtrv@yahoo.com but then it says ed2rtrv@yahoo.com has been disconnected
[08:51] <bob2> lampshade: I told you to install the right linux-restricted-module-legacy package
[08:51] <lampshade> bob2: Yeah I tried that and it said it was at the latest version  and did not install anything
[08:51] <dmlinux> nalioth holy crap i never knew that hot key !
[08:52] <portiz> and it says invalid username: LUCKYABA
[08:52] <Trashcan> ...is LUCKYABA your password?
[08:52] <desplesda> hi, i'm trying to install new fonts but dragging fonts into fonts:// doesn't do anything
[08:52] <vladuz976> anybody know how to add a thumbnail to a link in html?
[08:52] <desplesda> what am i missing?
[08:52] <nalioth> desplesda: put them in ~/.fonts
[08:52] <portiz> no trash my password is a six no.
[08:53] <desplesda> nalioth:  thanks
[08:53] <bob2> lampshade: ...
[08:53] <luckyaba> trashcan: no ... thats my screen name?
[08:53] <bob2> lampshade: what does dpkg -L say about them? (#flood)
[08:53] <portiz> my username is ed2rtrv and my psword is 222222
[08:53] <Trashcan> oh, ok
[08:53] <portiz> but i cant connect
[08:54] <desplesda> nalioth:  ah, right, it was copied there but the fonts:// view wasnt updated
[08:54] <lampshade> bob2: when I grep for the modules, unless I'm dpkg -L the wrong package name I get no results...
[08:55] <Madpilot> !tell desplesda about fonts
[08:55] <bob2> lampshade: this is where you show us the command you're running
[08:56] <portiz> HI LUCKYABA IM ALREADY SIGN IN BUT WHERE CAN I FIND ROOMS?
[08:56] <nalioth> portiz: easy on the caps, friend
[08:56] <drummer87> no ideas about network permissions?
[08:57] <luckyaba> portiz: rooms?
[08:57] <bam_> 5th time???
[08:57] <bob2> drummer87: linux doesn't have a conept of network permissions
[08:57] <portiz> yes
[08:57] <sal> where did i take the iso of ubuntu
[08:57] <bam_> >>nm me reading old posts...sry
[08:57] <luckyaba> portiz: i dont use yahoo so i dont know about any rooms
[08:57] <desplesda> thanks Madpilot
[08:57] <luckyaba> portiz: icheck under tools or something
[08:58] <drummer87> then would it be a problem with the xp machine that i can't edit it's files through samba?
[08:58] <tritium> portiz: Tools -> Room List
[08:58] <Trashcan> bob2: does samba deal with the situation where a windows share is restricted to a certain user/pass on the machine?
[08:58] <lampshade> bob2, dpkg -L nvidia-glx-legacy | grep modules
[08:58] <lampshade>   returns nothing
[08:58] <bob2> drummer87: er, that's an entirely different matter
[08:58] <bob2> lampshade: dude
[08:58] <bob2> 16:51:27           bob2 | lampshade: I told you to install the right linux-restricted-module-legacy package
[08:58] <bob2> lampshade: that's what I'm refering to
[08:59] <n0odl3> does anyone know a good mp3 and mpeg player for ubuntu
[08:59] <portiz> thanks luckyaba
[08:59] <bob2> Trashcan: since samba holds the username and password, yes
[08:59] <Trashcan> alright - cool
[08:59] <Madpilot> n0odl3: there are lots. Totem is pretty good, though
[08:59] <luckyaba> portiz: np
[08:59] <n0odl3> totem is on the system by default no?
[09:00] <Madpilot> n0odl3: yes
[09:00] <n0odl3> it keeps on telling i need a plug in or something
[09:00] <HedgeMage> nalioth: may I /msg you?
[09:00] <n0odl3> how can i get a hold of this plug in?
[09:00] <Madpilot> !tell n0odl3 about mp3
[09:00] <lampshade> bob2, Ok, that produces a lot more, going to #flood
[09:00] <Madpilot> n0odl3: follow the URL ubotu just sent you; Ubuntu can't include mp3 support by default, but it's easy to install
[09:00] <drummer87> bob2, i don't understand.. i'm trying to access files on an xp machine through samba but they're all read only
[09:01] <bob2> drummer87: did you tell samba to share them with write priveleges?
[09:02] <drummer87> they're shared from an xp machine, so that doesn't have samba
[09:02] <nathanj> i installed avifile-dicx-plugin and i still cant watch avi's
[09:02] <n0odl3> ok
[09:02] <n0odl3> thank you madpilot
[09:02] <Madpilot> n0odl3: np
[09:02] <n0odl3> if i need anything else ill be sure to come back
[09:02] <portiz> somebody know about skype?
[09:02] <xophEr> the ACPI THRM sensor tells me my current CPU temperature right?
[09:02] <bob2> drummer87: which part of this involves ubuntu then?
[09:03] <bob2> portiz: it's way simpler if you just ask your question
[09:03] <drummer87> bob2, the reading and editing of the files
[09:03] <portiz> luckyaba: you know skype?
[09:03] <Furesho> what's the easiest way to add mp3 support to ubuntu?
[09:03] <drummer87> bob2, files are stored on xp, i need to edit them in ubuntu over the network
[09:03] <Trashcan> bahhhhhh keep running out of space on the hdd?
[09:04] <Trashcan> 'copy remaining packages' is continually failing
[09:04] <nathanj> i still cant get avi to play and i have installed the appropriate packages i think
[09:04] <nalioth> Furesho: /msg ubotu mmp3
[09:04] <Trashcan> i'm pretty sure it's not taking 20gb to install
[09:04] <nalioth> Furesho: drop one "m"
[09:04] <bob2> drummer87: ok then.  did you mount it rw?
[09:04] <pupil> what compiler should I install for make install's ?
[09:04] <nalioth> HedgeMage: of course
[09:04] <tritium> pupil: just sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:04] <tritium> then you should be good
[09:05] <pupil> tritium, cool
[09:05] <pupil> thanks
[09:05] <drummer87> bob2, i just went to 'Places > Network Servers' and browsed to the computer that way
[09:05] <bam_> doesnt ubuntu sync with ntpd as a default
[09:06] <drummer87> bob2, should i have something in fstab, or specifically use the mount command to give rw permissions?
[09:06] <bam_> how do I check to make sure its running'?
[09:07] <bob2> drummer87: no idea, I've never used that
[09:07] <bob2> drummer87: 'sudo mount -t smbfs -o rw //192.168.22.98/stuff /mnt/kazoo', tho
[09:07] <micro_girl> hi everyone
[09:07] <micro_girl> listen, I already fixed my other problems, but now I need some serious help
[09:07] <micro_girl> anyone is willing to help me?
[09:08] <spackest> micro_girl: ask away
[09:08] <micro_girl> but I must warn you, they will be A LOT of questions, since I lost all my files tonight!
[09:08] <Trashcan> how do I not have enough free space in /var
[09:09] <Trashcan> I just repartitioned
[09:09] <Furesho> hmmm....
[09:09] <Parisi> hmm
[09:09] <micro_girl> first, I need to mount a swap partition (common to windows and ubuntu), how can i?
[09:09] <micro_girl> i want it to auto-mount every time I log in-
[09:10] <xophEr> I wonder if someone would like to implement this into ubuntu: http://sensors-applet.sourceforge.net/ there are debs available for debian but to have it in the ubu-repos would be nice :)
[09:10] <GTroy> anybody have a problem downloading FF 1.5 beta two, and then all browsers quit?
[09:10] <drummer87> bob2, tried that command, but it asked for a password and the xp machine doesn't have one (??)
[09:10] <bob2> drummer87: then hit enter...
[09:10] <Madpilot> xophEr: there's already xsensors and ksensors for displaying lm-sensors information
[09:11] <bob2> xophEr: #ubuntu-motu
[09:11] <drummer87> bob2, "Access Denied."
[09:11] <xophEr> ok
[09:11] <scanwinder> micro_girl: windows uses swap files, linux uses whole partitions - its probably possible to do but may be hard
[09:11] <micro_girl> no, that's not it... I have a partition in fat32 which I want to share
[09:11] <pupil> what does this mean
[09:11] <pupil> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[09:11] <nathanj> how can i test my graphics is working correctly
[09:12] <micro_girl> now, how can I make it mount authomatically every time I login?
[09:12] <bob2> pupil: that the source is broken
[09:12] <bob2> micro_girl: /msg ubotu ntfs
[09:12] <robitaille> scanwinder,  linux can also easily do swap files instead of partition;  but I would be very surprised if they are anywhere near the same format than a windows swap file
[09:12] <pupil> oh,. i get it
[09:12] <drummer87> bob2, actually, "Anonymous login successful.. blah.. tree connect failed... ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access Denied.)... SMB connection failed"
[09:13] <micro_girl> -_-
[09:13] <micro_girl> maybe i am not explaining myself correctly!
[09:13] <pupil> what do I do about this configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6.0 gdk-pixbuf-2.0 ) were not met.
[09:13] <micro_girl> what I wanted to know is how to configure the system to do what I wanted!
[09:13] <bob2> pupil: install build-essential and gnome-devel
[09:13] <bob2> micro_girl: you can't share swap between ubuntu and windows
[09:14] <pupil> i did build essential,. now i guessI have to install gnome devel
[09:14] <nalioth> micro_girl: ubotu sent you a link
[09:14] <portiz> helo i want to install my webcam in ubuntu but when i click on the file it says couldnt display/media/cdrom0
[09:14] <micro_girl> i know, but there is a way to do it without a program, no?
[09:14] <micro_girl> bob2, I can, I've done it before! I just created a partition in fat32 and made it auto-mount in ubuntu!
[09:15] <bob2> micro_girl: what?
[09:15] <bob2> micro_girl: you do this by editing /etc/fstab
[09:15] <micro_girl> oh, ok
[09:15] <bob2> micro_girl: the program I pointed you at just does it for you automatically
[09:15] <nalioth> micro_girl: open a terminal and type "man fstab"
[09:15] <micro_girl> now, how can I find what line to add to that file?
[09:16] <bob2> micro_girl: you use that program
[09:16] <micro_girl> -_-
[09:16] <bob2> micro_girl: or you read the fstab man page to find out how to edit it yourself
[09:16] <bob2> or just use the lines in there as examples
[09:16] <Trashcan> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda = lawlllllllll
[09:16] <micro_girl> yeah, but how am I supposed to know what to add in type and options?
[09:16] <Trashcan> i should have tried that before formatting
[09:17] <bob2> micro_girl: by either reading the fstab manpage, which explains it all in detail, copying one of the existing lines and modifying it to suit, or by using the program I pointed you at
[09:19] <micro_girl> nice, I just used the program and it doesn't work very well
[09:19] <bob2> e.g.?
[09:19] <micro_girl> i mean, it mounted the wrong partitions
[09:19] <micro_girl> two out of three aren't usable
[09:19] <bob2> and the line it generated was...
[09:20] <micro_girl> 3 lines!
[09:21] <micro_girl> but it didn't mounted the one I wanted!
[09:21] <bob2> dude
[09:21] <bob2> show us the lines
[09:21] <micro_girl> dude? o_O
[09:21] <bob2> and the output of "sudo fdisk -l" (in #flood
[09:21] <micro_girl> ...
[09:21] <nalioth> micro_girl: in #flood or a pastebin
[09:21] <bob2> dude = generic non-gender-specific pronoun
[09:21] <GTroy> what would I search to find how to fix the browser crash when downloading 1.5 beta 2?
[09:22] <bob2> GTroy: firefox and mozilla both crash while downloading some random tarball?
[09:22] <GTroy> yeah
[09:22] <GTroy> the tarball firefox 1.5 beta 2
[09:22] <thechitowncubs> whats the best way of installing azureus in breezy?
[09:23] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: by hand
[09:23] <GTroy> can't get any browser to work now
[09:23] <thechitowncubs> !azureus
[09:23] <ubotu> azureus is, like, totally, a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[09:23] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: do it by hand, you'll thank me
[09:23] <thechitowncubs> meh
[09:24] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: get it from azureus.sourceforge.net and drop it wherever you like
[09:24] <GTroy> thanks bob2
[09:25] <DukGalNamu> i can't read audio cds for some reason
[09:25] <micro_girl> ok, I just posted it on #flood !
[09:25] <bob2> what do you mean by "read"?
[09:25] <DukGalNamu> mount
[09:25] <Centaur5> What would cause ubuntu to lock up when trying to use a particular wireless network?
[09:25] <DukGalNamu> i tried running gnome-cd but it gives me an error
[09:26] <GTroy> Centaur5: same problem I've got
[09:26] <DukGalNamu> i tried mounting with gkrellm but that doesn't work either
[09:26] <bob2> you can never mount audio cds
[09:26] <Centaur5> GTroy: Is it something that can be fixed/
[09:26] <bob2> Centaur5: ndiswrapper?
[09:26] <fr33mind> I'm on breezy.  I've done dist-upgrade but before, I had problems with my / and I've done reiserfsck.  Few files were erased with the rebuild-tree.  Now, I have a problem with my keyboard.  CTRL-ALT-Fx doesn't work anymore and I loose accents and special chars.  Wich package to reinstall you think?
[09:26] <GTroy> don't know
[09:26] <bob2> hah reiser
[09:26] <spackest> I have never got wireless to work on anything linux.  course I gave up a few years ago
[09:26] <GTroy> I bet so
[09:27] <Centaur5> bob2: No, just using the drivers breezy installed for the internal card
[09:27] <DukGalNamu> bob2: then how do you play them?
[09:27] <thechitowncubs> !javadebs
[09:27] <ubotu> thechitowncubs: Are you smoking crack?
[09:27] <thechitowncubs> !javadebb
[09:27] <ubotu> thechitowncubs: What?
[09:27] <thechitowncubs> !javadeb
[09:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[09:27] <bob2> DukGalNamu: with cd playing software?
[09:27] <bob2> thechitowncubs: /msg ubotu whatever
[09:27] <fr33mind> bob2: prob with reiser?
[09:27] <bob2> fr33mind: reiser's repair tools are amusing like that
[09:27] <VoX> what's the default bluetooth password using gnome bluetooth filemanager
[09:27] <VoX> ?
[09:27] <bob2> fr33mind: I don't know which package you need to reinstall tho
[09:28] <fr33mind> bob2: I should use XFS instead?
[09:28] <bob2> I'd just reinstall the whole thing on ext3
[09:28] <bob2> fr33mind: unless you have convincing reasons otherwise, I'd just use ext3
[09:28] <micro_girl> I was wondering... how I am supposed to find out the file system and type of the disk I want to mount?
[09:28] <bob2> micro_girl: fat32 = vfat, ntfs = ntfs
[09:28] <fr33mind> I'm on laptop... I want the safest FS as possible in case of power crash... or any computer freeze..
[09:29] <bob2> fr33mind: then reiser and xfs are terrible choices
[09:29] <bob2> use ext3
[09:29] <micro_girl> and how exactly do I know which one I want to mount? It is drive F on windows xp...
[09:29] <fr33mind> bob2: but ext3 is slower than reiser no?
[09:29] <bob2> micro_girl: 'sudo fdisk -l', #flood
[09:29] <bob2> fr33mind: I don't thin kthat is a correct general statement
[09:29] <bob2> fr33mind: reiser can be faster for some things, but you say you care about reliability more
[09:30] <micro_girl> bob2, ok, just posted it
[09:30] <fr33mind> how to configure the keyboard??
[09:30] <bob2> fr33mind: this sounds very unlike a keyboard configuration issue
[09:31] <svijaykr> I am trying to install Ubuntu 5.04 on my laptop (Acer travelmate 4016) - Installaion went fine - but when it boots, the display goes blank
[09:31] <bob2> micro_girl: probably hda6
[09:31] <svijaykr> I can switch to console mode using ctrl+alt+f1 and can see an X server running
[09:31] <micro_girl> hum, I can try, how do I remove mounted partitions?
[09:31] <fr33mind> I can do apt-get --reinstall dist-upgrade ?
[09:32] <nalioth> svijaykr: are you looking at the blank screen now?
[09:32] <svijaykr> yes
[09:32] <nalioth> svijaykr: great! at the console, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver
[09:32] <svijaykr> after shifting back to the console mode ?
[09:33] <DukGalNamu> bob2: what do you recommend for playing cds?
[09:33] <ajeet> Hello, yesterday I mounted my windows partition so I can view it from Ubuntu, now it's empty... Do I have to re-mount it everytime?
[09:33] <nalioth> svijaykr: yes, in the console
[09:34] <micro_girl> how do I remove/mount partitions?
[09:34] <svijaykr> is this a known problem ?
[09:34] <nalioth> svijaykr: for some video cards, yes
[09:35] <nathanj> bob2: can i get dvds avis to to work fromm the universe sources?
[09:35] <dooglus> fr33mind: keyboard problems are to be expected with breezy.
[09:35] <DukGalNamu> bob2: why can't i play a fricken cd??
[09:35] <fr33mind> dooglus: yes?  cause by dist-upgrade?
[09:35] <nalioth> nathanj: universe and multiverse, yes
[09:36] <nathanj> nalioth: what do i installed?
[09:36] <nathanj> nalioth: install
[09:36] <DukGalNamu> i try gnome cd and get this ** (gnome-cd:31257): WARNING **: Error opening CD
[09:36] <dooglus> fr33mind: however you install breezy.  foreign language keyboard support is just broken at the moment.  ( http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15372 )
[09:37] <fr33mind> AH! ok.
[09:37] <fr33mind> I'll wait tomorrow
[09:37] <dooglus> fr33mind: there's a program called "debsums" which will check all your installed packages.  run "debsums -s" and wait...
[09:37] <pupil> yacc  -p experience_yy parser.y
[09:37] <pupil> make[1] : yacc: Command not found
[09:37] <pupil> make[1] : *** [parser.c]  Error 127
[09:37] <pupil> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/pupil/experience-0.9.8/src'
[09:37] <pupil> make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[09:37] <nalioth> nathanj: /msg ubotu restricted
[09:37] <fr33mind> dooglus: I used Canadian French for keyboard for English Canada for langage.
[09:37] <dooglus> fr33mind: it will tell you if any packages are missing files
[09:37] <nalioth> pupil: dont paste in here please
[09:37] <pupil> oh
[09:37] <pupil> sorry
[09:38] <fr33mind> dooglus: good :)  I try.
[09:38] <pupil> I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong with this install
[09:38] <nalioth> pupil:  in synaptic search "names and contents" for yacc
[09:38] <pupil> ok
[09:38] <dooglus> fr33mind: the package is called "debsums"
[09:38] <Nameless12> Can someone tell me what will be different from the latest beta release and the final version of ubuntu. And if i install that beta is there a way to "update" the distro easily from beta to final with out having to reinstall everything?
[09:38] <pupil> nalioth, couldn't I apt-get yacc?
[09:38] <dooglus> pupil: yacc is non-free.  the free version is called 'bison'
[09:39] <nalioth> pupil: i'm not sure yacc is a pkg
[09:39] <DukGalNamu> xfreecd gives me this: cdrom_init(CDROMREADTOCHDR-2): Inappropriate ioctl for device
[09:39] <DukGalNamu> why can't any programs seem to play cds?
[09:39] <ajeet> What packages do I need to enable MP3/audio playback in Ubuntu?
[09:40] <micro_girl> how do I remove/mount partitions?
[09:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ajeet about mp3
[09:40] <Trashcan> ubotu: tell ajeet about mp3
[09:40] <dooglus> pupil: install package "bison" then replace "yacc" with "bison.yacc" in the Makefile, or wherever it's being called from
[09:40] <vengeful> what partiton do you need to mount micro girl
[09:41] <fr33mind> dooglus: I have these messages: no md5sums for bsdutils  ||  checksum mismatch flashplayer-mozilla
[09:41] <pupil> doublus,. how do I replace something like that?
[09:41] <micro_girl> I am not sure, I'll have to try 1 by 1
[09:41] <vengeful> you dont know the names?
[09:41] <jcsteele> well, i am running the breezy release, a fresh install on a new machine.  during install, i could not get the network card to configure VIA dhcp, so i just figured i would configure it once everything was installed. Now when trying to install, i get an error "failed to run network-admin as user root: client exited with status 207"
[09:41] <pupil> dooglus, how do I replace something like that?
[09:41] <nalioth> pupil: you edit the makefile with a text editor
[09:41] <pupil> wow
[09:41] <dooglus> fr33mind: I had that a lot.  I found if you "sudo apt-get install --reinstall bsdutils" it will get the md5sums for you.  no idea why they are missing to start with though
[09:41] <pupil> gotta love that
[09:41] <vengeful> is it a windows partition you wantt to edit?
[09:41] <dooglus> pupil: use a text editor, like "gedit"
[09:41] <micro_girl> no, it's a fat32 partition
[09:41] <jcsteele> i know the hardware is intact, as the machine was just working wonderfully in openbsd...any ideas?
[09:42] <nalioth> rjordan: what client do you use?
[09:42] <rjordan> Anyone got cedega 4.4-1 working?
[09:42] <rjordan> nalioth, xchat
[09:42] <Nameless12> can someone please answer my question quickly so i can figure out if i should intall ubuntu-beta or wait for the final release
[09:42] <Nameless12> Can someone tell me what will be different from the latest beta release and the final version of ubuntu. And if i install that beta is there a way to "update" the distro easily from beta to final with out having to reinstall everything?
[09:42] <spiral> hi
[09:42] <HedgeMage> Night night.
[09:42] <nalioth> rjordan: put your nickserv password in the "server password" blank and leave the nickserv pass blank empty
[09:42] <dooglus> Nameless12: not a huge lot will be different, and you'll be able to update to the full version
[09:42] <pupil> which make filed doI edit,. I hve three of them
[09:42] <fr33mind> dooglus, So I do it for each package ?
[09:42] <pupil> Makefile, .am, ,in
[09:42] <Nameless12> dooglus, thanx.
[09:43] <nalioth> pupil: the one that says simply 'makefile'
[09:43] <pupil> cool
[09:43] <rjordan> nalioth, thnx
[09:43] <dooglus> fr33mind: I did it for each package which was missing md5sums, yes.  you can list all the packages on a single "sudo apt-get install --reinstall <pack1> <pack2> ..." command
[09:43] <ajeet> another thing, when viewing some websites, they don't seem to have the same font under windows, do I need some particular fonts package?
[09:43] <DavidLeeRoth> hey whats goin on everybody?
[09:44] <dooglus> pupil: or maybe "Makefile" - it often has a capital M, and case matters in most filesystems
[09:44] <vengeful> micro_girl
[09:44] <nalioth> pupil: i'll be back in a few hours
[09:44] <vengeful> type in fdisk -l and paste me the results in a pm
[09:44] <dooglus> pupil: Makefile.in is the one to edit
[09:45] <dooglus> pupil: then run ./configure again
[09:45] <portiz> how can i view my webcam on ubuntu?
[09:46] <fr33mind> How to put the result to a log file? (for debsums -s)  > deb.log  not working :(
[09:46] <dooglus> fr33mind: debsums -s 2> deb.log
[09:46] <portiz> how can i view my cam on ubuntu
[09:47] <fr33mind> thanks
[09:47] <DavidLeeRoth> portiz, make model?!>?
[09:47] <pupil> I got an unusual error
[09:47] <DavidLeeRoth> thats a bit necessary
[09:47] <dooglus> fr33mind: debsums puts its output to "standard error", not "standard output".  > redirects output, but 2> redirects errors
[09:47] <pupil> dooglus, I got an unusual error
[09:47] <pupil> dooglus,  yacc  -p experience_yy parser.y
[09:47] <pupil> parser.y:207: warning: previous rule lacks an ending `;'
[09:48] <dooglus> pupil: what are you trying to build?
[09:48] <DavidLeeRoth> portiz, did you look on google for a linux driver?
[09:48] <pupil> do I need to put a semi colon
[09:48] <nathanj> what do i need to install to enable dvix to work?
[09:48] <dooglus> pupil: and where can I get it?
[09:48] <pupil> in the make file?
[09:48] <hoodman> I have a few questions about software for ubuntu, can i ask in this chan?
[09:48] <dooglus> pupil: no, not in the make file.  it's complaining about line 207 of parser.y
[09:48] <DavidLeeRoth> sure hoodman
[09:48] <pupil> but it lists a bunch of lines, as soon as I changed YACC = bison.yacc
[09:49] <DavidLeeRoth> what do you need to know? hoodman
[09:49] <hoodman> ok, i have never used anything but windows, and am sort of limping along...im looking for a secure ftp server, and a good antivirus
[09:49] <Whistler> hoodman antivirus for linux?
[09:49] <DavidLeeRoth> is the AV for scanning a windows paritiion?
[09:49] <dooglus> pupil: what are you trying to build?
[09:49] <dooglus> pupil: and where can I get it?
[09:49] <pupil> ohh,. one moment
[09:49] <pupil> I am trying to build a theme
[09:49] <DukGalNamu> anyone here able to help me play a music cd?
[09:49] <dooglus> hoodman: clamav
[09:49] <DavidLeeRoth> you really dont need an av for linux
[09:50] <kemik> hoodman:  pureftpd is supposed to be good (supports SSL)
[09:50] <DavidLeeRoth> but clamav
[09:50] <pupil> dooglus, I am trying to build a theme for gnome,.
[09:50] <spackest> is there a way to get apache2 from apt-get then somehow add in a package and recompile?
[09:50] <bob2> hoodman: if you care about security, you shouldn't be using ftp
[09:50] <hoodman> Whistler, DavidLeeRoth...ill be downloading software, and music for windows, to a windows partition
[09:50] <DavidLeeRoth> SSH\
[09:50] <pef> hello
[09:50] <bob2> hoodman: and you don't need anti-viruse software
[09:50] <spackest> really don't want to have to rebuild from source
[09:50] <leart> hello fellow ubuntus. need your tech support, i have install the base system and when it came to load the hotplug system, it just don't load, any suggestion ??
[09:50] <DavidLeeRoth> hoodman, is the hdd vtfs?
[09:50] <pc22> anyone using here planeshift?
[09:50] <bob2> spackest: it's easier if you tell us what you're trying to do
[09:50] <fr33mind> I saw talk about webcam... is it possible to enable cam for MSN user? (I use gaim)
[09:50] <spackest> trying to get mod_log_spread to work in apache2
[09:50] <pupil> dooglus, I got the file from gnome-art
[09:50] <DavidLeeRoth> * i meand NTFS
[09:51] <nathanj> im trying to gte dvix working :(
[09:51] <hoodman> DavidLeeRoth i dont know vtfs?
[09:51] <Whistler> anybody here using icewm?
[09:51] <hoodman> oh...lol
[09:51] <Sturmvogel> pc22, I playe Planeshift occasionally
[09:51] <bob2> nathanj: so install mplayer. all done.
[09:51] <hoodman> yes ntfs
[09:51] <DavidLeeRoth> ntfs lol
[09:51] <nathanj> bob2: cant use totem?
[09:51] <pc22> Sturmvogel, how do i install in ubuntu?
[09:51] <portiz> David how can i make a model?
[09:51] <bob2> nathanj: I wouldn't bother
[09:51] <Sturmvogel> not yet on Ubuntu though
[09:51] <DavidLeeRoth> support for write access is a bit shaky
[09:51] <DavidLeeRoth> i wouldnt try to risk your win data
[09:51] <Sturmvogel> I haven't installed it on linux yet
[09:52] <Sturmvogel> you could try asking for help on #planeshift or #planeshift-build
[09:52] <nathanj> bob2: mnplayer too big download for now :)
[09:52] <pc22> you have any idea how to install in linux?
[09:52] <portiz> DAVID: i have an a4tech webcam
[09:52] <DavidLeeRoth> instead, why dont you try to partition your drives and make a fat32 part so you can exchange files between the two?
[09:52] <Sturmvogel> pc22, read the forums, I think there are some pretty good guides
[09:52] <kemik> bob2:  inside the .deb packages there are 2 tarball ( control and data) in those there are a "." folder and inside of that "." the goodies are... how do i pack 'em so i get the "." folder??
[09:52] <pc22> i tried this --->>> ./PlaneShift1_CBV0.3.011.linux.x86-2.run: command not found
[09:52] <hoodman> DavidLeeRoth, that would be fine...imless concerned about the anti virus, and more concerned about finding a ftp program
[09:52] <DavidLeeRoth> or, you can use vmware, virtually boot into your windows partition from linux, and you can use that to download files to your hdd
[09:53] <brownie17> does anyone know anything the "captive-ntfs" package, which can supposedly enable you to write to an ntfs partition? is it myth?
[09:53] <vengeful> good idea davidleeroth
[09:53] <DavidLeeRoth>  hoodman you could also set up a "virtual network" using vmware
[09:53] <kemik> bob2:  nvm.. got it
[09:53] <DavidLeeRoth> that gets rid of any file system conflicts
[09:53] <vengeful> brownie17, im not familiar with any packages that allow you to safely write to ntfs
[09:54] <taotime> hey anybody
[09:54] <taotime> anyone there
[09:54] <micro_girl> hi everyone
[09:54] <vengeful> did it work micro?
[09:54] <DavidLeeRoth> and as for secure ftp, use SSH lol
[09:54] <hoodman> well, here is what its for....im running a computer that runs my ftp, and to use a program called emule
[09:54] <taotime> do u know anything about rhythmbox not working
[09:54] <dooglus> pupil: do you have a website address for the code you downloaded?
[09:54] <DavidLeeRoth> hoodman, emule has a linux port
[09:54] <hoodman> DavidLeeRoth, what is ssh?
[09:54] <pupil> no,. the software got it for me,. I can give you the file name
[09:54] <DavidLeeRoth> hoodman, ssh is secure shell
[09:55] <brownie17> vengeful, "safely"?
[09:55] <pupil> experience-0.9.8.tar.bz2
[09:55] <DavidLeeRoth> apt-cache search ssh
[09:55] <K^Holtz> brownie17 i was discussing captive ntfs with someone in here a cuple days ago.. i really dont think its a myth
[09:55] <vengeful> well theres ways but i think theres a chance it can completely wreck the drive
[09:55] <pupil> dooglus, experience-0.9.8.tar.bz2
[09:55] <brownie17> K^Holtz, might have been my under a different name
[09:55] <taotime> anybody know about rhythmbox and why it is not working
[09:55] <DavidLeeRoth> i used to be like you.  i was a bit scared of a win32-linux migration, but now i havent turned back
[09:55] <hoodman> DavidLeeRoth, is that a peice of software, or something internally in ubuntu?
[09:55] <dooglus> pupil: did you see that 3.03 is available? http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/experience/
[09:55] <K^Holtz> here is a download... http://www.kruyt.org/?sub_item=46
[09:56] <pupil> yeah,.
[09:56] <pupil> I know
[09:56] <hoodman> DavidLeeRoth, well i put it on my laptop that i use for websurfing, and it runs so much better
[09:56] <nathanj> whats no authitiacted mean?
[09:56] <pc22> ./PlaneShift1_CBV0.3.011.linux.x86-2.run: command not found
[09:56] <pc22> still
[09:56] <pupil> dooglus, My whole dilema started when I wanted my windows manager to look like the experience theme.,
[09:56] <brownie17> K^Holtz, was the above download intended for me?
[09:57] <pupil> dooglus, I found a deb for it and thought oki,. thats it,. but no,.
[09:57] <pupil> dooglus, that was just the beggining
[09:57] <K^Holtz> yea.. well im not telling u to download it, but that is where someone directed me when we were discussing it
[09:57] <spackest> just curious, can someone walk me through how the latest software gets into the distro?
[09:57] <pupil> dooglus, I just want my theme to look exactly as I see it on the freshmeat site.
[09:57] <bob2> pc22: that's pretty clear
[09:57] <bob2> pc22: it means the file isn't in ./
[09:57] <K^Holtz> i havent used it yet, but if it works, i would like to know.. because it would be nice to be able to write to my external HDD
[09:57] <dooglus> pupil: ok, i'll keep looking :)
[09:58] <pupil> dooglus, looking for?
[09:58] <brownie17> why is debian sometimes called by it's version name, I.E. Woody, and sometimes called debian unstable?
[09:58] <dooglus> pupil: seems you need the experience engine as well as the experience theme.
[09:58] <dooglus> I'll see if I can get it working
[09:58] <pupil> dooglus, l would appreciate that,.
[09:58] <bob2> brownie17: because woody was once stable, and is now oldstable
[09:58] <bob2> brownie17: but it will always be woody
[09:59] <brownie17> bob2, ok. so when a a program is for debian unstable, it's for an old version of debian?
[09:59] <spackest> brownie17: I think new
[10:00] <bob2> brownie17: ...
[10:00] <brownie17> spackest, ok.. i think?
[10:00] <bob2> brownie17: unstable is the most current full distribtuion in debian
[10:00] <bob2> brownie17: saying that a program is for "debian unstable" is pretty useless, tho
[10:00] <brownie17> bob2, oh i get it now, stupid me
[10:00] <bob2> brownie17: woody came out in 2002, and it's more recent than debian unstable was in 1999
[10:00] <micro_girl> a quick question, everyone...
[10:01] <micro_girl> what line do I add to fstab so that it mounts /dev/hda5/ every time I login?
[10:01] <bob2> come on
[10:01] <pupil> dooglus, I was using gnome-art to get all the components,.
[10:01] <pupil> its quite simple,.
[10:01] <bob2> micro_girl: you've been told two other solutions
[10:01] <brownie17> bob2, i get you. it's like saying on a website that smoeone will be valid tomorrow. you should say 11th of august 2005, otherwise it will be out of date information by tomorrow
[10:02] <bob2> micro_girl: /dev/hda5 /mnt/whatever vfat defaults,umask=000 0 0
[10:02] <micro_girl> I tried /dev/hda5       /media/windows/  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000   0       0 , but it doesn't seem to work right....
[10:02] <Licker> anyone know anything about adding a DNS server to ubuntu?
[10:02] <bob2> brownie17: yes!
[10:02] <pupil> dooglus, thats how I got this file "experience-0.9.8.tar.bz2
[10:02] <pupil> "
[10:02] <micro_girl> bob2, so what was the problem in the line I typed?
[10:02] <Whistler> anybody of you tried ubuntulite ?
[10:02] <fr33mind> When I do CTRL-ALT-F1 to switch to console, I loose some lines at bottom of my screen.  Somebody here told me which parameters to add to menu.lst in grub but at dist-uprade, I loose it :(
[10:02] <breakthestate>  so anyone know where i can get an older version of build-essential, one with a 3.* compiler? in .deb form for ubuntu?
[10:02] <bob2> micro_girl: I don't know, you haven't told us in what way it didn't work
[10:02] <ajeet> Hello, I'm using the ubuntu guide to enable mp3 playback and when trying to install totem-xine from multiverse, it says package missing?!
[10:03] <LuVUnTu> i just completed another large update but now there is this update information window that states - user interaction required. A new version of the Linux kernel has just been installed. We strongly  recommend that your machine is restarted as soon as possible to complete the system update.
[10:03] <bob2> breakthestate: no, tell us what you're trying to do
[10:03] <spackest> Whistler: apt-get install mydns
[10:03] <LuVUnTu> i have rebooted several times and its still there
[10:03] <spackest> I really like mydns
[10:03] <LuVUnTu> what is it??/ a bug?
[10:03] <micro_girl> I wanted that partition to always appear on my Desktop....
[10:03] <Whistler> spackest why do i need that?
[10:03] <micro_girl> but I have no idea on how to do it! :|
[10:03] <spackest> sorry
[10:03] <bob2> micro_girl: that's a seperate question
[10:03] <emile> i'm trying to compile xbiso (xbox iso extract/ftp tool) but it wants libftp in what package is that?
[10:03] <bob2> micro_girl: did it actually mount?
[10:04] <Licker>  apt-get install mydns is that ment for me?
[10:04] <pupil> dooglus, ok, I think the GTK+ Engine Theme installed
[10:04] <micro_girl> no, it doesn't seem like it
[10:04] <spackest> Licker: apt-get install mydns
[10:04] <ajeet> media playback? anyone?
[10:04] <brownie17> bob2, i think the start text for this channel should mention that when speaking to a specific person, you should ALWAYS start the sentence with their name, and not an abreviation.
[10:04] <breakthestate> bob2: just messing around for fun, learning, and i need gcc 3.x to compile a bin-utils on for my linux from scratch project
[10:04] <bob2> micro_girl: what are you basing that on?
[10:04] <bob2> breakthestate: install build-essential gcc-3.4
[10:04] <breakthestate> okay
[10:04] <micro_girl> it doesn't appear in any place!
[10:04] <bob2> breakthestate: heh
[10:04] <spackest> Licker: I use mydns to serve dns for maybe 100 sites at home and like millions at home, it just kicks
[10:04] <bob2> er
[10:04] <bob2> brownie17: heh
[10:05] <bob2> micro_girl: you looked at /media/windows?
[10:05] <spackest> millions at work
[10:05] <dooglus> pupil: I don't get any error at all.  did you run "configure" again after installing bison?
[10:05] <Licker> spackest: Ok then after its installed u mind helping me configure it man?
[10:05] <micro_girl> obviously!
[10:05] <breakthestate> bob2: thx
[10:05] <pupil> everthig worked out
[10:05] <pupil> dooglus, I did make install,. now how do I access the engine?
[10:05] <bob2> micro_girl: and when you run 'sudo mount /media/windows', what happens?
[10:05] <dooglus> pupil: from what I read the theme doesn't work without the engine
[10:06] <pupil> dooglus, Indeed,. I got the file installed,.
[10:06] <Licker> root@BigDaddy:~#  apt-get install mydns
[10:06] <Licker> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:06] <Licker> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:06] <Licker> root@BigDaddy:~#
[10:06] <Licker> root@BigDaddy:~#
[10:06] <brownie17> bob2, when installing a .deb package, should i type "sudo dpkg -i (packagename)"? and what does the -i mean?
[10:06] <Licker> oops
[10:06] <pupil> dooglus, how do I access it ?
[10:06] <Licker> sorry copied to much
[10:06] <bob2> brownie17: i = install
[10:06] <pupil> dooglus, or runt he theme?
[10:06] <brownie17> bob2,  ok
[10:06] <Licker> how do I get it to stop looking at the CD on apt-install and look at the internet?
[10:06] <crashbox> hey all, i'm following the instructions in the wiki to install w32codecs, but when i add the repositori and update, i get:
[10:06] <crashbox> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[10:06] <Licker> they shiould really fix that .
[10:06] <Blejdfist> Licker: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:07] <Blejdfist> Licker: and remove the CD-source (should be at the top)
[10:07] <emile> i'm trying to compile xbiso (xbox iso extract/ftp tool) but it wants libftp in what package is that?
[10:07] <bob2> crashbox: gpg --keyserver subkey.pgp.net --recv-key 07DC563D1F41B907 ; gpg --export 07DC563D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
[10:07] <micro_girl> bob2, after performing that command it works. However, I can I make the partition ALWAYS appear on the desktop?
[10:07] <bob2> micro_girl: I have no idea
[10:07] <Blejdfist> Licker: then run apt-get update
[10:07] <Licker> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:07] <micro_girl> :|
[10:07] <brownie17> K^Holtz, is captive-ntfs dangerous? should i have to restart after install?
[10:07] <Licker> Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[10:07] <ajeet> Hello, I'm using the ubuntu guide to enable mp3 playback and when trying to install totem-xine from multiverse, it says package missing?!
[10:07] <bob2> micro_girl: if you want it to be always mounted at boot, then make the options column "defaults,iocharset=utf8,umask=000,auto"
[10:08] <bob2> ajeet: why would you install totem-xine to play mp3s?
[10:08] <Blejdfist> Licker: ehm.. what i meant by "edit" is.. you should edit the file
[10:08] <ajeet> I'm following the guide...
[10:08] <bob2> ajeet: then it's wrong
[10:08] <bob2> ajeet: if you want to play mp3s with totem, install gstreaer0.8-mad
[10:08] <micro_girl> ok, brb
[10:08] <Blejdfist> Licker: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:08] <Licker> oh oh.lol sorry. :p. its 3am here. whats the command to find/open that file?
[10:08] <ajeet> bob2: Thanks!
[10:09] <spackest> Licker: first time in shell?  mydns might be a bit of a stretch then
[10:09] <Licker> (gedit:19960): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[10:09] <spackest> Licker: maybe try nano
[10:09] <Blejdfist> Licker: not using X?
[10:09] <kemik> Licker:  are you running the shell as root ?
[10:09] <Licker> spackest: im still pretty new to Linux. I know Im pushing it but I wanna learn the right way of doing things the hard way.  :p
[10:09] <Licker> yes i am root
[10:09] <spackest> Licker: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:09] <kemik> you shouldnt be
[10:10] <kemik> Licker:  use sudo
[10:10] <Licker> ohh
[10:10] <spackest> then comment out the cd line
[10:10] <spackest> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <crashbox> bob2, thanks, no luck though, get gpg: requesting key 1F41B907 from hkp server subkey.pgp.net
[10:10] <crashbox> ?: subkey.pgp.net: Host not found
[10:10] <crashbox> gpgkeys: HKP fetch error: Success
[10:10] <crashbox> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[10:10] <crashbox> gpg: Total number processed: 0
[10:10] <mwright1> where r the nightly snapshots of livecd?
[10:10] <spackest> apt-get update ; apt-get install mydns
[10:10] <emile> is there a package that provides libftp?
[10:11] <kemik> Licker:  use an ordinary terminal and "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:11] <bob2> crashbox: stop pasting crap in here
[10:11] <bob2> emile: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:11] <bob2> crashbox: subkeys.pgp.net then
[10:11] <fr33mind> nobody know parameters to specify have hires screen at boot?  Now I loose some lines at the bottom.  (laptop, sis video)
[10:11] <Licker> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release Candidate i386 (20051005)] / breezy main restricted <--that?
[10:12] <mwright1> anyone here involved in final packaging
[10:12] <spackest> Licker: yeah
[10:12] <pupil> dooglus, Did you notice at the end of the install it syays something about linking the environment varialbe
[10:12] <micro_girl> back...
[10:12] <crashbox> bob2, sorry
[10:12] <micro_girl> bob2, now I have some folders floating around in media and mnt, how do ? erase them?
[10:13] <bob2> micro_girl: if they're empty and you don't want them anymore
[10:13] <bob2> mwright1: best to ask more specific questions
[10:13] <LasseL> fr33mind, i am not sure, try to google on vga=792 or something like that
[10:14] <fr33mind> LasseL ok.
[10:14] <LasseL> fr33mind, worst thing that can happen is that you can't see anything during boot if you experiment
[10:14] <Korgan> Any Hoary networking gurus online?
[10:14] <micro_girl> bob2, yeah, they are empty and I don't want them anymore
[10:14] <bob2> micro_girl: then go for it
[10:14] <bob2> Korgan: just ask your question
[10:14] <Korgan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73432 <-- Thats my question
[10:14] <nathanj> bob2 mplayer skin out there?
[10:14] <micro_girl> but how do I erase them? clicking with the right button and picking it doesn't seem to work.....
[10:14] <emile> bob2: if a package cant be found on packeges.u.c is it safe to say it isnt supported and i should find another solution to install/use it?
[10:15] <bob2> nathanj: I don't use the gui
[10:15] <bob2> micro_girl: sudo rmdir /media/whatever
[10:15] <bob2> emile: it's safe to say it's not in ubuntu, yes
[10:15] <mwright1> when you boot to live cd does your ntfs partition get mounted somewhere?
[10:16] <mwright1> if the existing machine has win32 that is
[10:16] <Licker> Blejdfist: BTW no
[10:16] <nathanj> bob2: know fo a mplayer sking?
[10:17] <Licker> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:17] <Licker> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[10:17] <Licker> :/
[10:17] <bob2> nathanj: no, I don't use the GUI
[10:17] <nathanj> bob2: what ya use
[10:17] <Licker> still looking
[10:17] <Licker> at CD
[10:17] <bob2> Licker: that error is pretty clear
[10:17] <nathanj> cmdline?
[10:17] <Licker> bob2?
[10:17] <bob2> nathanj: indeed
[10:17] <nathanj> :)
[10:17] <bob2> Licker: permission denied
[10:17] <bob2> Licker: run apt with sudo
[10:17] <Licker> ohhh..
[10:17] <Licker> :p
[10:17] <Licker> that worked thanx
[10:18] <micro_girl> how can I update the packages from an iso already mounted?
[10:18] <pupil> Can anyone tell me how to access the gtk-2 engine for pixmap based themes
[10:18] <pupil> I don't know where to find it
[10:19] <bob2> pupil: gtk2-engines-pixbuf - Pixbuf-based theme for GTK+ 2.x
[10:19] <bob2> micro_girl: be more specific
[10:19] <pupil> bob2,  yeah
[10:19] <bob2> micro_girl: do you mean "How do I install updated ubuntu packages from a mounted .iso image using apt?"?
[10:19] <micro_girl> exactly
[10:20] <nathanj> bob2: how do i get all the mplayer codecs via apt?
[10:20] <bob2> nathanj: this is not windows
[10:20] <pupil> bob2, is that supposed to be a command?
[10:20] <bob2> all this "codecs" crap just confuses people
[10:20] <bob2> pupil: no, it's a package name
[10:21] <bob2> nathanj: mplayer should be able to play everythign aside from RM and WMV by default
[10:21] <bob2> nathanj: if you want them, install w32codecs
[10:21] <bob2> micro_girl: add a "deb file:///path/to/cd/ breezy main restricted" line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:21] <pupil> bob2, I already have the engine installed,. I want to know how to utilize it
[10:21] <bob2> pupil: ?
[10:21] <bob2> pupil: select a theme that uses it, all done
[10:22] <pupil> /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines
[10:22] <nathanj> bob2: sorry i just say the essential pkg on the mplayer website
[10:22] <bob2> that's not from ubuntu
[10:22] <bob2> nathanj: I don't understand what you're saying
[10:22] <bob2> nathanj: but mplayer is in ubuntu
[10:22] <nathanj> bob2: w32codecs wont work on amd64 correct :)
[10:23] <bob2> nathanj: not on the ubuntu amd64 port, no
[10:23] <bob2> not without some fiddling, anyway
[10:23] <bob2> pupil: why did you install an old version of gtk from source?
[10:23] <pupil> bob2, lol,. cause gnome-art wanted me too,.
[10:23] <nathanj> bob2: hrmm not comming up
[10:23] <bob2> pupil: what on earth is "gnome-art"?
[10:23] <nathanj> nathan@greed:~$ apt-cache search w32codecs
[10:23] <nathanj> nathan@greed:~$
[10:23] <bob2> nathanj: yes, it's not in ubuntu
[10:24] <Whistler> !w32codecs
[10:24] <pupil> its all lethals fault,.
[10:24] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[10:24] <pupil> bob2, lethal made me do it
[10:25] <micro_girl> bob2, what you told me doesn't work... how can I add the mounted iso directly to synaptic?
[10:26] <GTroy> anyone know why after 1hr on a wireless connection it would go down
[10:26] <GTroy> ?
[10:26] <GTroy> with 5.10
[10:26] <vengeful> nope
[10:26] <vengeful> what card?
[10:26] <GTroy> or what I would search to find out?
[10:26] <GTroy> netgear
[10:26] <GTroy> wg111
[10:27] <vengeful> hmm nope no idea...try searching google for it
[10:27] <vengeful> or maybe bob2 knows
[10:27] <GTroy> what would you search?
[10:27] <spackest> gtroy: I think wireless is just flaky, windows, linux, whatever
[10:27] <vengeful> netgear wg111 ubuntu drop connection
[10:27] <GTroy> many thanks
[10:28] <pupil> bob2, I just want my theme to look like the experience theme on freshmeat
[10:28] <pupil> thats all I ask
[10:28] <pupil> bob2, thats how this all started
[10:32] <svijaykr> I am sorry - I lost the command to reconfigure X to use the Vesa driver
[10:32] <bob2> pupil: why?
[10:32] <bob2> micro_girl: what?
[10:32] <svijaykr> can anyone tell me what is. My problem is a dark display after x.org starts - console mode works
[10:32] <bob2> micro_girl: define "doesn't work"
[10:33] <micro_girl> it will say that it doesn't find a certain file
[10:33] <bob2> micro_girl: and he file it says is...
[10:33] <bob2> micro_girl: bear in mine no one ese can see your screen, and it's often impossible to debug thigns without seeing the full error
[10:34] <micro_girl> bob2, I know that because this will be the second time I'll be doing this tonight...
[10:34] <bob2> micro_girl: so, show us the error in #flood
[10:34] <micro_girl> it's not an error...
[10:35] <micro_girl> what I need to do is mouting the iso
[10:35] <micro_girl> just give me a second, please...
[10:35] <bob2> er
[10:35] <Licker> is there a way to unistall php5 and install php4?
[10:36] <bob2> Licker: by removing the php5 packages and installing the php4 ones?
[10:37] <micro_girl> ok, I mounted it as /cdrom/
[10:37] <micro_girl> what next?
[10:38] <micro_girl> I tried "apt-cdrom add", but it doesn't work...
[10:38] <linuxboy> where can I set my keyboard type for the console logins?
[10:38] <wickedpuppy> micro_girl, check ya soruces.list
[10:39] <Whistler> micro_girl /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:39] <LaserLine> Hello All, I need help with the Ubuntu Installation part - Partitioner... I reinstalled XP Recently, and left 20GB of Un-partitioned space, I would like to use ReiserFS instead of EXT3, so when I manuelly change the partitioning, should I choose 'Bootflag:' yes or no ?
[10:39] <micro_girl> no, the new cd doesn't appear there
[10:40] <daejavu> "./elaunch: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[10:40] <daejavu> what do i do of that ?
[10:40] <apoZ> hi
[10:40] <etnoy> daejavu: you are missing the library
[10:40] <etnoy> check ls -l /usr/lib/libstdc++*
[10:41] <daejavu> can u tell me how to get it .. i used Synaptic and couldnt get it :S
[10:41] <apoZ> Is there anybody who knows alot of programming in Ubuntu ?
[10:41] <etnoy> if you've not got the exact file libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 you need to do something about it
[10:41] <LaserLine> Anyone could help ?
[10:41] <etnoy> check which version you have
[10:41] <wickedpuppy> apoZ, just ask :P
[10:41] <bob2> micro_girl: dude
[10:41] <bob2> micro_girl: I told you EXACTLY what to add to /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <bob2> micro_girl: scroll up and do it
[10:42] <daejavu> humm .. ive got 6.0
[10:42] <etnoy> okay
[10:42] <bob2> LaserLine: why do you want to use reiser?
[10:42] <Cynos> Hey all.
[10:42] <etnoy> that's strange
[10:42] <etnoy> which program fails to start?
[10:42] <Cynos> How are people finding Breezy?
[10:42] <wickedpuppy> micro_girl, when you go apt-cdrom add .. you got any error ?
[10:42] <daejavu> etnoy, its an online RPG game i downloaded
[10:42] <etnoy> I've got 6.0.5 and I'm on breezy
[10:43] <etnoy> well, then that program requires a newer libstdc++ than is available in ubuntu
[10:43] <bob2> !+redhat crap
[10:43] <etnoy> I usually do a ugly hack which usualy work-
[10:43] <bob2> etnoy: no it doesn't
[10:43] <ubotu> bob2: Syntax error in line 1
[10:43] <LaserLine> bob2 because on my laptop it always crashes...and reiserFS doesn't - so i decided to go with reiser on my desktop too...
[10:43] <bob2> it requires a crap old redhat version
[10:43] <etnoy> bob2: okay
[10:43] <bob2> LaserLine: er, if ext3 ever breaks, you need to file a severe bug right away
[10:44] <bob2> daejavu: use packages.ubuntu.com to find the pckage that is in
[10:44] <etnoy> daejavu: well what's the name of the app? is there deb or source code available use that instead
[10:44] <etnoy> daejavu: if you want this version to work I have an (ugly) workaround
[10:44] <LaserLine> bob2 I did that.... a few times...
[10:44] <bob2> daejavu: bear in mind that program is ridiculously old, tho, and probably not maintained
[10:44] <Whistler> bob2 can i ask what gui do you use?
[10:44] <daejavu> Nops .. that a game i got downloaded from a site .. no deb packages for that !
[10:44] <bob2> Whistler: none, mostly
[10:44] <etnoy> daejavu: source code?
[10:45] <etnoy> or is it crap binaryware?
[10:45] <bob2> daejavu: no, read what I said: search packages,ubuntu.com for libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[10:45] <micro_girl> bob2, ok, and  then I get errors such as these: file:/cdrom/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: File not found
[10:45] <daejavu> bob2, copy that .. lemme check !
[10:45] <bob2> micro_girl: and the exact line in your /etc/apt/sources.list is?
[10:45] <Whistler> bob2 and how are you browsing web ?
[10:45] <LaserLine> bob2 somone here (i think it's DVSoftware) helped me, and we found out that it might be HD problem, and ReiserFS manages to keep stable (I'm not sure it's HD problem because NTFS works flawlessly)
[10:45] <Whistler> lynx?
[10:45] <apoZ> Can anyone tell me some morge about Ubuntu ?
[10:45] <bob2> Whistler: firefox
[10:45] <Whistler> without gui?
[10:45] <bob2> apoZ: www.ubuntulinux.org
[10:45] <bob2> Whistler: no...
[10:45] <apoZ> lol :)
[10:46] <apoZ> not much info there
[10:46] <daejavu> etnoy, ummm no source ... just hundereds of .ega fiels !
[10:46] <micro_girl> bob2, deb file:/cdrom/ breezy main restricted <--- this
[10:46] <etnoy> never seen an ega file
[10:46] <bob2> apoZ: so, ask a specific question
[10:46] <apoZ> I'm talking about user experience
[10:46] <etnoy> daejavu: I doubt it exists in packages.u.com
[10:46] <Cynos> Whistler - Lynx ain't so bad.
[10:46] <apoZ> I only got the Live version now
[10:46] <bob2> apoZ: lots of people like it.
[10:46] <LaserLine> bob2 Why shouldn't I use EXT3 ?
[10:47] <wickedpuppy> micro_girl, thats not how my cdrom appeared in my sources.list
[10:47] <apoZ> I like the interface, but am afraid i won't be able to play games anymore
[10:47] <LaserLine> bob2 I mean ReiserFS/
[10:47] <Whistler> Cynos i use it only at extreme need
[10:47] <etnoy> LaserLine: use ext3 :)
[10:47] <mwright1> journaling is good
[10:47] <mwright1> -j
[10:47] <Cynos> apoZ - it's not that hard to run a dual-boot.
[10:47] <etnoy> ext3 supports chattr, reiser not
[10:47] <etnoy> ext3 has quotas, reiser not
[10:47] <apoZ> explain Cynos ?
[10:47] <Cynos> My XP and Ubuntu play well, 10Gb each.
[10:47] <etnoy> ext3 has been rock solid all my linux years
[10:47] <Cynos> When I load up, I have a choice, Ubuntu or Windows XP.
[10:47] <micro_girl> wickedpuppy, I had to mount the iso as /cdrom/ , that's it....
[10:47] <LaserLine> What are all these 'quatas' and 'chattr' ?
[10:47] <daejavu> bob2, unable to find the package ! :S
[10:48] <etnoy> and you cannot use beagle with reiser because it misses extended attributes
[10:48] <apoZ> Not possible to play games on linux ?
[10:48] <apoZ> like cs orso
[10:48] <daejavu> etnoy, damn it took me a whole day to download the damn game and i cant even play it now ... lol
[10:48] <LaserLine> etnoy You can use Beagle !!
[10:48] <Whistler> apoZ mostly no
[10:48] <LaserLine> etnoy I use it on my ReiserFS laptop :D
[10:48] <etnoy> daejavu: well then I can show you my hack
[10:48] <apoZ> that's to bad :(
[10:48] <Cynos> Depends on your system, apoZ.
[10:48] <Whistler> apoZ you can use cedega for windows games here
[10:48] <etnoy> LaserLine: that is slow, right?
[10:48] <Cynos> My mate plays all his steam apps through Cedega.
[10:48] <apoZ> what's cedega ?
[10:48] <etnoy> since it uses the slow sql backend instead of the fs extended attr. system
[10:49] <daejavu> etnoy, ur hack ?
[10:49] <LaserLine> etnoy Slow ? why ? it's quite good, but it's a P3-600Mhz, so I don't know how slow it really is :
[10:49] <Thierry_> need help compiling  mt-daap-0.2.3
[10:49] <Cynos> apoZ: Cedega is an app that makes Windows apps think that they're in Windows...
[10:49] <sem_hustler> iiiiiiiiii
[10:49] <sem_hustler> haloooooooooo
[10:49] <Cynos> That's my best description.
[10:49] <LaserLine> etnoy So why they Suse uses ReiserFS ? why on ReiserFS website they say it's faster ?
[10:49] <apoZ> where to find cedega ?
[10:50] <micro_girl> bob2, so, if my line doesn't work as you said, what should I try?
[10:50] <sem_hustler> helo
[10:50] <Cynos> apoZ - http://www.transgaming.com/
[10:50] <sem_hustler> waaaaup
[10:51] <Thierry_> could someone help me - i am quite newbie and i'm trying to setup an itune server on my hoary box without success it always ends up with configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:51] <Cynos> apoZ - If you aren't overly familiar with Linux, may want to keep Windows
[10:51] <Cynos> about.
[10:51] <Thierry_> See `config.log' for more details.
[10:51] <Kimppa> Hello, how do I find out which kernel version I have?
[10:51] <popey> Kimahri: uname -r
[10:51] <apoZ> I'd like to get to know linux
[10:51] <LaserLine> bob2 as for my question, should I check the "boot flag" on or off if I have windows XP already installed ?
[10:52] <dooglus> LaserLine: I use reiserfs too.  I found that beagle didn't work properly.  When it's working properly, it should notice changes immediately.
[10:52] <dmlinux> hey guys, how do you switch for example from /home/dm to /home/dm/desktop/downloads ?
[10:52] <Cynos> cd
[10:52] <wickedpuppy> Thierry_, you have gcc and so on ?
[10:52] <dooglus> LaserLine: like, if you have just searched for a word, and leave the results window open, then add the word you searched for to a file, the results window should immediately update to show the new file.
[10:53] <Cynos> cd /home/dm/desktop/downloads
[10:53] <dooglus> LaserLine: and it didn't for me, using reiserfs
[10:53] <Cynos> or just cd ~/desktop/downloads
[10:53] <Thierry_> wickedpuppy : yes i do
[10:53] <Cynos> You'll find that desktop usually starts with a capital.
[10:53] <dooglus> dmlinux: or just cd desktop/downloads
[10:53] <LaserLine> dooglus It notices them with a bit of delay, but that's ok I guess... - EXT3 is faster them ReiserFS ?, I just don't like to see that INODE Errors.... I can't stand them... I reinstalled Ubuntuj on my laptop for 3 times in 3 days after low-level formatting my laptop
[10:53] <apoZ> Is Ubuntu so hard Cynos ?
[10:53] <Cynos> And bloody Linux is case-sensitive.
[10:53] <wickedpuppy> Thierry_, i suppose you have tried some helloworld or something to see everything is ok ?
[10:54] <LaserLine> dooglus did you add the xttr to the FSTAB ?
[10:54] <Cynos> apoZ - It's not hard, but quite different to Windows.
[10:54] <dooglus> LaserLine: "a bit of a delay"?  I waited 20 minutes before giving up...  How much delay are you talking about?
[10:54] <Cynos> Far more tweakable, which is good and bad.
[10:54] <apoZ> Don't care, don't like windows
[10:54] <dooglus> LaserLine: I did.  I still have it:  "/dev/hda6 /mnt/mdk/homereiserfs    noauto,noatime,defaults,user_xattr 0       0"
[10:54] <mouhez> how do I check how many users I have? in total, not logged in.
[10:54] <dmlinux> dooglus i tryto do taht and it says no such file or dir
[10:54] <LaserLine> dooglus I added that to the FSTAB, made beagle search manuelly for the first time and now it works, I never timed it, but I guess I should........
[10:54] <Cynos> dmlinux -
[10:55] <dooglus> dmlinux: type "pwd".  what does it say?
[10:55] <Cynos> dmlinux do this: " dir ~/
[10:55] <Cynos> Oops
[10:55] <LaserLine> dooglus, Let's talk stability, what's more stable from your point of view, EXT3 or ReiserFS ?
[10:55] <wickedpuppy> mouhez, check ya /etc/passwd ...
[10:55] <dmlinux> /home/dm
[10:55] <mouhez> thanks
[10:55] <dooglus> LaserLine: I only used EXT3 for about 5 minutes
[10:55] <Cynos> dmlinux - It's case-sensitive, so check the name with "dir"
[10:55] <Cynos> It's probably Desktop
[10:55] <dmlinux> cynos dire~/says no file or dir
[10:56] <LaserLine> dooglus you dual boot with windows ?
[10:56] <dooglus> LaserLine: so I really can't say.  I've never had a problem with reiserfs, and I power my laptop down "aggressively" all the time by mistake.  (dead battery + loose power cable = lots of sudden 'shutdown's)
[10:56] <wickedpuppy> dir ~/ ... not dire~/
[10:56] <Cynos> my bad.
[10:56] <dooglus> LaserLine: I do.
[10:56] <LaserLine> dooglus http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Beagle
[10:56] <dooglus> LaserLine: I tri-boot with windows and mandriva...
[10:56] <LaserLine> dooglus so could you help me with the partitioner ?
[10:56] <Cynos> dmlinux - try cd Desktop
[10:56] <Cynos> Desktop is different to desktop
[10:56] <dmlinux> cynos  that did it
[10:56] <LaserLine> dooglus I have 20GB unallocated space on my HD especially for Ubuntu
[10:56] <Cynos> Which annoys the hell out of me.
[10:57] <dooglus> LaserLine: I only repartitioned once.  I resized the NTFS partition using a shareware program called Bootit-NG...
[10:57] <apoZ> Another question Cynos
[10:57] <sem_hustler> yup
[10:57] <Cynos> Laserline - You need a swapfile partition, and a / partition.
[10:57] <Cynos> Go ahead apoZ
[10:57] <LaserLine> dooglus How should I partition it ? yeah, but you had to manuelly partition with the Ubuntu installation
[10:57] <Thierry_> member:wickedpuppy : when compiling i have this checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[10:57] <intelikey> why do you need swap ?
[10:57] <Thierry_> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[10:57] <apoZ> I'm using the live cd now, will it be faster if I install it ?
[10:57] <Cynos> Laserline - use partman as part of the auto process.
[10:57] <Thierry_> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
[10:57] <intelikey> low ram ?
[10:57] <Thierry_> checking for working aclocal... found
[10:57] <dooglus> LaserLine: it's unallocated?  not just free, but really not part of an existing partition?
[10:57] <Thierry_> checking for working autoconf... found
[10:57] <LaserLine> Cynos I know, but the "boot" flag confuses me !
[10:57] <Thierry_> checking for working automake... found
[10:58] <Thierry_> checking for working autoheader... found
[10:58] <Cynos> intelikey - it frees up RAM
[10:58] <Thierry_> checking for working makeinfo... found
[10:58] <Thierry_> checking for gcc... gcc
[10:58] <LaserLine> dooglus it's not a part
[10:58] <wickedpuppy> Thierry_, p[ls stop
[10:58] <Cynos> Laserline - You're dual-booting, eh?
[10:58] <wickedpuppy> pls
[10:58] <intelikey> Cynos no it doesnt
[10:58] <LaserLine> dooglus I installed XP a week ago and only used 60GB
[10:58] <wickedpuppy> no need to paste all those here ... pm me if you wish to paste them
[10:58] <Cynos> it's virtual RAM intelikey... very slow RAM, but it acts like it.
[10:58] <intelikey> Cynos you only get into swap when ram is full.
[10:58] <Cynos> One big paging file.
[10:58] <Thierry_> wickedpuppy : ok
[10:58] <dooglus> LaserLine: so you just boot from the ubuntu cd and let it do its thing?  I use 1Gb swap partition and the rest is "/".  Some will suggest you keep /home as a separate partition, but I don't.
[10:58] <Thierry_> wickedpuppy : sorry bout that
[10:58] <LaserLine> Cynos Yeah, and I want to know what should I put i the boot flag, it's in the screen where you choose what paritiones to make, and each partition has this boot flag....
[10:59] <wickedpuppy> Thierry_, np :P
[10:59] <apoZ> Cynos I'm using the live cd now, will it be faster if I install it ?
[10:59] <Cynos> Yup.
[10:59] <wickedpuppy> apoZ, yes
[10:59] <Cynos> What system you on?
[10:59] <apoZ> ok
[10:59] <wickedpuppy> very much faster
[10:59] <Madpilot> apoZ: much, much faster
[10:59] <intelikey> Cynos learn about linux swap please.
[10:59] <apoZ> Intel 1.7 Ghz
[10:59] <Cynos> :ffs:
[10:59] <wickedpuppy> ram ?
[10:59] <apoZ> 608
[10:59] <Cynos> It's a big paging file.
[11:00] <Cynos> That's it.
[11:00] <Cynos> Feel free to educate me, of course.
[11:00] <Cynos> apoZ - You'll be sweet as with speed.
[11:00] <apoZ> (don't ask how I got a 608 MB ram, a weird tweak did it )
[11:00] <LaserLine> dooglus Remeember, when you insttalled ubuntu, you chose "manuelly partition' and then you had to choose what space to partition, then you had to choose which partition, and there you had to choose the FS type, and then mount point, and then you had this line, named "BOOT FLAG" and 2 options, "YES" and "NO" --- What do they mean and whay should I choose ???
[11:00] <micro_girl> -_-
[11:01] <Cynos> Laserline - Are you going to install Grub?
[11:01] <apoZ> Cynos a ual-boote takes 20 GB ?
[11:01] <micro_girl> anyone knows how to add mounted iso's to the synaptic's packet manager???
[11:01] <LaserLine> Cynos Yeah.
[11:01] <wickedpuppy> micro_girl, i just did it with apt-cdrom add
[11:01] <Kimppa> How do I find out which kernel version I have? The kernelversion command doesn't give the exact verion, right
[11:01] <Cynos> apoZ - That's how big my HD is :)
[11:01] <micro_girl> how???
[11:01] <wickedpuppy> Kimppa, uname -r
[11:01] <apoZ> Cynos a dual-boot takes about 20 GB?
[11:01] <Kimppa> ok, thanks
[11:01] <LaserLine> Cynos going to make a default installation, onlu thing that's going to be manuel is the FS
[11:01] <wickedpuppy> micro_girl, i just typed sudo apt-cdrom add
[11:01] <wickedpuppy> thats it
[11:02] <intelikey> micro_girl try "man apt-cdrom" it should tell you.
[11:02] <micro_girl> but where did you mounted it?
[11:02] <apoZ> I've got a 20 GB to
[11:02] <wickedpuppy> i just put my cdrom in and ubuntu auto mounts it
[11:02] <Thierry_> member:wickedpuppy : i tried to look in config.log but ...
[11:02] <micro_girl> -_-
[11:02] <micro_girl> yeah, but I am talking about an ISO!!!
[11:02] <LaserLine> Cynos Yes, Going to use GRUB.
[11:02] <wickedpuppy> in fact apt-cdrom will ask you to put in the cd and press enter
[11:02] <intelikey> yes micro_girl
[11:02] <wickedpuppy> micro_girl, i added ubuntu install cd
[11:02] <wickedpuppy> you tell me if its iso or not
[11:02] <goh> I need to do something similar to micro-girl
[11:03] <goh> but my cdrom is faulty so it fails to mount
[11:03] <wickedpuppy> Thierry_, you can't pm me ?
[11:03] <apoZ> Cynos So a 20 GB HD will do the job for a dual-boot ?
[11:03] <intelikey> you mount iso's just like cdroms except you use -o loop
[11:03] <mvhenten> Is there  a way I can delete the totem plugin from mozilla?
[11:03] <goh> but i've got a cdrw drv working
[11:03] <dooglus> LaserLine: to be honest, no, I don't remember any of that...
[11:03] <mvhenten> I only want to remove the plugin not the rest
[11:03] <goh> so how do I mount that
[11:03] <micro_girl> it doesn't seem to work here! >_<
[11:03] <dooglus> LaserLine: I *think* my boot loader is in the MBR, and so the boot flag is irrelevant.
[11:04] <dooglus> LaserLine: check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=26269&postcount=11
[11:04] <wickedpuppy> micro_girl, when you put in any cd what happens ?
[11:04] <micro_girl> hey, but I am not talking aboit a cd, it is an iso!
[11:04] <LaserLine> dooglus ok - that's sounds logical because of 'GRUB' = Why did you choose ReiseFS ?
[11:04] <micro_girl> if it was a cd, it would be really easy!
[11:04] <apoZ> Cynos So a 20 GB HD will do the job for a dual-boot ?
[11:04] <Cynos> Yup.
[11:05] <wickedpuppy> you wanna add iso to synaptic ? why not just burn it ? its 50 cents
[11:05] <dooglus> LaserLine: I use LILO by the way, not GRUB.  GRUB didn't work for me.
[11:05] <Cynos> If you don't mind 10Gb per partition.
[11:05] <nathanj> azureus not in ubuntu resps alts?
[11:05] <intelikey> micro_girl "sudo mkdir /media/iso0 ;sudo mount <path to your iso> /media/iso0 ;sudo apt-cdrom <aproprate info> "
[11:05] <dooglus> LaserLine: I chose reiserfs 'cos ext3 is just ext2 with a bolted on afterthought of a journal...
[11:05] <wickedpuppy> nathanj, you can get it from azureus.sourceforge.net
[11:05] <Thierry_> member:wickedpuppy : hummmmm how do i exactly pm you ?
[11:05] <Cynos> Or you can have one partition set as FAT32, which both Windows and Linux can read.
[11:05] <LaserLine> dooglus Ok...
[11:05] <dooglus> LaserLine: (that was my reasoning at the time - and now I can't be bothered to change)
[11:06] <wickedpuppy> Thierry_, i just pm ya
[11:06] <wickedpuppy> reply there pls
[11:06] <apoZ> No, don't mind
[11:06] <LaserLine> Guys AFK...
[11:06] <apoZ> So I make 2 partitions of each 10 GB ?
[11:06] <BiSK-8> hello
[11:06] <intelikey> micro_girl it's pretty easy as an iso also.   just mount the iso and point apt-cdrom at it.....
[11:06] <wickedpuppy> apoZ, 2 partitions .... so one is root and another is ?
[11:06] <micro_girl> .................................
[11:06] <apoZ> 1 is XP , other Linux
[11:06] <micro_girl> i am getting really annoyed
[11:07] <wickedpuppy> ah ...
[11:07] <dooglus> LaserLine: getting back to beagle - I see that the ubuntu kernel enables CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR by default - so that's not what I was missing.  So I don't know what else to try.
[11:07] <nathanj> wickedpuppy: any alternatives in apt?[6~
[11:07] <AES_24_96> hi, total noob here, a developer and soundcard maker told me to give http://ardour.org/community.php a try
[11:07] <micro_girl> intelikey, I did exactly what you told me
[11:07] <BiSK-8> i just installed hoary hedhog on 2 one of my hdd's.... i would like to know why my printer dosent work.... it always used to any suggestions?
[11:07] <LaserLine> dooglus I /msg you
[11:07] <wickedpuppy> nathanj, ubuntu comes with bittorrent client :P
[11:07] <nathanj> ubuntu mirrors down?
[11:07] <intelikey> did you man apt-cdrom ?
[11:07] <nathanj> wickedpuppy: but thats hrm crapo :)
[11:07] <apoZ> Cynos can I ceep the data on HD for partitioning ?
[11:07] <micro_girl> of course
[11:07] <wickedpuppy> nathanj, azureus.sourceforge.net
[11:07] <micro_girl> and intelikey, it doesn't work!!!!!!
[11:07] <AES_24_96> anyone got time to help a noob out ? I am confused
[11:08] <wickedpuppy> AES_24_96, just ask
[11:08] <thomas__> Hi aLL
[11:08] <AES_24_96> ok cool :)
[11:08] <wickedpuppy> hi thomas
[11:08] <intelikey> micro_girl what is the name and path of the iso file?  i'll write you a line you can paste in a terminal to mount it.
[11:08] <Licker> whats the command to setup mysql DB? And anyone know that mySQL Admin Text Panal that you cant apt-get?
[11:08] <micro_girl> -__
[11:08] <micro_girl> -_-
[11:09] <wickedpuppy> eh Licker you installed mysql ?
[11:09] <micro_girl> i already did that hundreds of times!
[11:09] <Licker> yea
[11:09] <apoZ>  Ok, I'm quitting the Live cd then
[11:09] <Licker> y?
[11:09] <micro_girl> and then, I do apt-cdrom add, press enter and it doesn't work!!!!
[11:09] <apoZ> Back to XP and partitioning
[11:09] <wickedpuppy> Licker, mysql -u <username> -p
[11:09] <apoZ> Tx for the help Cynos
[11:09] <AES_24_96> ok, so I see this ardour thing, my soundcard maker called me up told me to try it, but he says it wont run on windows. However, they have linnux drivers already for the cards, and they are very excited to try it, but I dont want to kill my windows, its my main work, so he said to get ubuntu and ask some linnux guys about "grub" to dual boot
[11:09] <SolidRaven> i need some help with ndiswrapper
[11:09] <wickedpuppy> it will ask for password , enter it you be fine
[11:09] <thoreauputic> micro_girl:  sudo apt-cdrom add  ?
[11:10] <wickedpuppy> AES_24_96, you have no linux experience at all ?
[11:10] <micro_girl> OBVIOUSLY!
[11:10] <intelikey> micro_girl ls your mount point to make sure it is mounted.
[11:10] <SolidRaven> does anybody know where i can manualy download these packages: install debhelper build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-$2.6.10-5-386
[11:10] <thoreauputic> micro_girl: no need for the attitude - not everyone remembers these obvious things
[11:10] <micro_girl> and it is even mounted as /cdrom/ !!!
[11:10] <intelikey> if you can't read it apt can't either.
[11:11] <AES_24_96> zero, except that I saw an early version of this ardour at a trade show, and was blown away by its speed and stability, the guys said itsa because it doesnt have to climb through windows bloat, and that "jack" bypasses all the normal junk a soundcard has to go through, AND now there are a few plugins for it too
[11:11] <wickedpuppy> SolidRaven, all of those are in synaptic
[11:11] <apoZ> Cynos tx for the help, going back to XP and partitioning 2 10 GB's
[11:11] <SolidRaven> wickedpuppy > i don't have internet on the comp
[11:11] <wickedpuppy> AES_24_96, pls tell your soundcard manufacturer to get more experienced person ?
[11:11] <SolidRaven> so using synaptic will be hard
[11:11] <AES_24_96> heh
[11:11] <AES_24_96> but Im the usual glutton for punishment
[11:11] <wickedpuppy> SolidRaven, then how you manually download ??
[11:11] <LaserLine> dooglus Did you see me PM you ?
[11:11] <micro_girl> it's not attitude, but I've been here for hours, always going in and out, it's 10 AM around here and I didn't even get some sleep, and I am annoyed since nobody seems to give me a good answer to my problem!
[11:11] <wickedpuppy> oh k ... those are in archive.ubuntu.com
[11:11] <SolidRaven> i want to ask it
[11:11] <SolidRaven> thats why i'm here
[11:11] <wickedpuppy> i got ya point
[11:12] <AES_24_96> wickedpuppy Im plenty willling to learn
[11:12] <apoZ> Cu latyer guys
[11:12] <intelikey> ok micro_girl i understand that.   tell us what error you recieve, and maybe we can help.
[11:13] <wickedpuppy> AES_24_96, i am not saying you are not ..
[11:13] <micro_girl> ... I already replyed to that hundreds of times...
[11:13] <wickedpuppy> hiaz
[11:13] <intelikey> "it doesn't work" is not a good clue to go on.....
[11:13] <tst3> is there a package management system in ubuntu similar to portage in gentoo ?
[11:13] <wickedpuppy> nvm ... pls install linux first then we will work on AES_24_96
[11:13] <micro_girl> when I call for apt-cdrom add, it doesn't work!
[11:13] <mustard5> tset, synaptic
[11:13] <intelikey> "it doesn't work" is not a good clue to go on.....
[11:13] <intelikey> ok
[11:13] <micro_girl> -_-
[11:13] <mustard5> test, or apt
[11:14] <micro_girl> ok, i'll show you the error message and all!
[11:14] <AES_24_96> is it even possible to dual bnoot? I got 7 gigs left on the system drive
[11:14] <thoreauputic> micro_girl: but surely if it "doesn't work" it gives an error message ?
[11:14] <wickedpuppy> AES_24_96, of course its possible ...
[11:14] <wickedpuppy> AES_24_96, can i pm you ?
[11:14] <AES_24_96> sure
[11:14] <micro_girl> now, i'll say it step by step!
[11:14] <intelikey> try  sudo strace apt-cdrom <blah>   and see what that says.... micro_girl
[11:14] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: Ubuntu is about 1.8Gb installed, so you should have space w/ 7Gb
[11:14] <Licker>  wickedpuppy: do you know the  mySQL admin mod program? (something like that)
[11:14] <AES_24_96> cool beans :)
[11:14] <micro_girl> 1 -> sudo mkdir /media/iso
[11:14] <wickedpuppy> Licker, get phpmyadmin
[11:15] <micro_girl> 2 -> sudo modprobe loop
[11:15] <Shunyata> could anyone help me compiling mt-daap ??
[11:15] <SolidRaven> that archive is realy confusing :S
[11:15] <Licker> well how do I set the mysql pass?
[11:15] <wickedpuppy> AES_24_96, i just pm yah
[11:15] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: I'd do a 2.5 or 3Gb root, and the rest of that 7Gb as /home partition...
[11:15] <starscalling> arg! im SURE i messed something up! :)
[11:15] <wickedpuppy> Licker, you set it when you installed mysql
[11:15] <dooglus> LaserLine: I did.  Did you see my replies to you?
[11:15] <SolidRaven> is the kernel source/headers on the cd wickedpuppy ?
[11:15] <wickedpuppy> SolidRaven, nope
[11:15] <SolidRaven> damnit
[11:15] <LaserLine> dooglus nope...
[11:15] <micro_girl> 3 -> sudo mount /media/fat32/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop
[11:15] <LaserLine> dooglus - 2nd try
[11:16] <SolidRaven> thats infact the only thing that i still need
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> you got to get them from synaptic after you have installed
[11:16] <AES_24_96> Madpilot, I will go to wikipedia to see what that means :)
[11:16] <SolidRaven> wickedpuppy > i need to install a newer version of ndis
[11:16] <starscalling> i just installed ubuntu 5.10, and i tried to configure network card to static settings... and somewhere along the line there i seem to have lost eth0 ... could someone help me put it back in! :
[11:16] <SolidRaven> because it doesn't allow my drivers to run
[11:16] <LaserLine> dooglus - I /msg you now..
[11:16] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: heh... sorry, I assumed you spoke Linux... ;)
[11:16] <Shunyata> Or is there any mt-daapd-0.2.3 deb i could use
[11:16] <micro_girl> 4 -> apt-cdrom add
[11:16] <SolidRaven> but other people say that the newer version does run the chipset drivers that i need
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> Madpilot, he never use linux before ..
[11:16] <intelikey> micro_girl any error up to step 4 ?
[11:16] <micro_girl> 5 -> introduce cd, press enter, blablabla
[11:16] <micro_girl> no
[11:16] <dooglus> LaserLine: I saw your message, but apparently I'm not registered, so I can't reply.
[11:17] <wickedpuppy> SolidRaven, archive has latest ndis ... no doubt
[11:17] <Madpilot> wickedpuppy: heh, sorry
[11:17] <LaserLine> I'll write you my MSN ok ?
[11:17] <SolidRaven> wickedpuppy > yeah, but finding it is another part
[11:17] <micro_girl> 6 -> Mounting CD-ROM E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[11:17] <apoZ> Cynos Can I keep my documents shared for both OS ?
[11:17] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: do you know what a harddrive partition is?
[11:17] <wickedpuppy> SolidRaven, eh ah the packages are in alphabetical order :P
[11:17] <SolidRaven> yeah
[11:17] <thoreauputic> micro_girl: apt-cdrom add /media/iso ?
[11:17] <BiSK-8> i just installed hoary hedhog on 2 one of my hdd's.... i would like to know why my printer dosent work.... it always used to any suggestions?
[11:17] <SolidRaven> but what version should i download?
[11:17] <Licker> wickedpuppy: its not working. Is there a command to reset pass or whats it just to make sure u set one?
[11:17] <micro_girl> same error!
[11:18] <apoZ> Madpilot Can i keep my documents shared on both OS, if I do a dual boot ?
[11:18] <dooglus> I didn't realise that changing my nick would unregister me...  duh.
[11:18] <wickedpuppy> SolidRaven, no idea
[11:18] <SolidRaven> wickedpuppy > http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/
[11:18] <AES_24_96> yeah this is a weird situation, but its kinda common for me...developers and coder types will build somethingl, call it grweat, but really have no idea how such a tool is normally used....so they bring me in, the guy with no clue about computer stuff, to test it in the real world...they understand code, I understand audio...and never the twain shall meet I guess
[11:18] <wickedpuppy> SolidRaven, yup
[11:18] <LaserLine> dooglus did you get my /msg ?
[11:18] <AES_24_96> I do know what a partition is
[11:18] <intelikey> ok line 4 4 -> apt-cdrom add  <--- i beleve if you go back to the man page for apt-cdrom you will find a switch for the mount point.    you need to add that. micro_girl
[11:18] <wickedpuppy> Licker, eh ah .. there should be ... i am not sure though
[11:18] <mvhenten> Hello, I am new to ubuntu. it seems it has installed some plugins in firefox, wich make it crash when I go on some media sites ( omroep.nl)
[11:18] <Madpilot> apoZ: probably, yes
[11:18] <pc22> in the network, to access/share this ubuntu box first what do i do?
[11:18] <mvhenten> I have my own tricks to watch omroep.nl so I woult like to disable those plugins ( totem?)
[11:18] <apoZ> Madpilot How ?
[11:18] <SolidRaven> wickedpuppy > but what package do i need for an Intel X86 install?
[11:18] <starscalling> wickedpuppy: how do i add a network card to my install of ubuntu please
[11:19] <mvhenten> but I don't want to remove the whole totem package
[11:19] <Licker>  does anyone know if there is a command to reset pass or whats it just to make sure u set one in a mysql DB? (freshlyinstalled)
[11:19] <wickedpuppy> Licker, http://help.hardhathosting.com/question.php/200
[11:19] <mvhenten> anyone any idea how to remove that plugin for good?
[11:19] <goh> May I know how I can add a repositry in synaptic that looks for my hoary cd for updating in my cdrw? Currently, It looks for it in the cdrom
[11:19] <wickedpuppy> starscalling, network card ?
[11:19] <AES_24_96> do I want this? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[11:19] <wickedpuppy> should be auto detected
[11:19] <starscalling> eth0 yes.
[11:19] <GTroy29> anyone know why I lose wireless connection after 40 minutes?
[11:19] <mvhenten> I haven't found any menu options in firefox to do so
[11:19] <wickedpuppy> SolidRaven, ah eh ... hold on
[11:19] <SolidRaven> wickedpuppy > should i use the ndiswrapper-utils_1.1-4ubuntu2_i386.deb
[11:19] <intelikey> apt-cdrom is hard wired to search /cdrom (a symlink) for the cd.  you have to tell it where the iso is mounted. micro_girl
[11:19] <mvhenten> and if I go into synaptic I can only select the whole totem package
[11:19] <SolidRaven> its ubuntu 5.04
[11:20] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: OK... Windows generally uses one big partition; the OS and your own files all together. Linux generally uses two partitions, one for the OS and /home for the user
[11:20] <starscalling> i was trying to configure it with the system tools >> network tools , ane somehow i seem to have deleted it.
[11:20] <thomas__> ANy date for the 5.10 ?
[11:20] <micro_girl> intelikey, hum?
[11:20] <intelikey> apt-cdrom is hard wired to search /cdrom (a symlink) for the cd.  you have to tell it where the iso is mounted. micro_girl
[11:20] <wickedpuppy> SolidRaven, I am not sure ... i never use it before .. sorry
[11:20] <AES_24_96> ok, so I gotta add two partitions to the drive?
[11:20] <Madpilot> thomas__: next week... Oct 13th
[11:20] <apoZ> Madpilot So if i want to have dual boot I need 3 partitions ? XP, Linux OS en linux home ?
[11:20] <goh> May I know how I can add a repositry in synaptic that looks for my hoary cd for updating in my cdrw? Currently, It looks for it in the cdrom. Any ideas?
[11:20] <micro_girl> and how exactly is that command?
[11:20] <bibe> hi all. How can I look for a bug I am experiencing with Ubuntu 5.10-rc? Can I eventually file a bug with reportbug (I am used to Debian)?
[11:20] <thomas__> thx Madpilot
[11:20] <wickedpuppy> apoZ, not need ... recommended
[11:21] <jsteidl> hi all, i was wondering if anybody know where i can find the metasploit-framework for ubuntu? i wasnt able to find it in any repository nor to find a deb...
[11:21] <intelikey> that is why i said "man apt-cdrom " to begin with....
[11:21] <apoZ> DO you all have dual boot ?
[11:21] <wickedpuppy> jsteidl, there may not be package unless they ported it
[11:21] <AES_24_96> is there a way to add partitions to an already partitioned ntfs drive?
[11:21] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: you can use everything in one partition if you want
[11:21] <wickedpuppy> apoz i used to have ... no more
[11:21] <jsteidl> wickedpuppy: yeah, i was wondering if there would be a dev that has allready ported it..
[11:21] <apoZ> wickedpuppy, how did you do it
[11:21] <SolidRaven> AES_24_96 > partition magic can do that
[11:22] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: yes there is - the Ubuntu installer can do it, among other methods
[11:22] <AES_24_96> and oh yeah, can a linnux app acess hard drives with ntfs format?
[11:22] <wickedpuppy> jsteidl, anyway get the source , after all thats what the fun it ... its exploiting after all :P
[11:22] <thoreauputic> micro_girl: the -d switch it seems - and you need the mount point in fstab
[11:22] <bibe> apoZ, you should have at least XP, Linux / and Linux swap
[11:22] <SolidRaven> but your OS will need to be on another HD to do that
[11:22] <intelikey> and i'm sorry if it seems that no one understands or cares micro_girl, it is really miss-communication instead
[11:22] <micro_girl> >_>
[11:22] <Shunyata> can anyone help me compiling mt-daapd-0.2.3
[11:22] <Andre4s> I have a script that I want to run every time the computer boots, where cna I add it?
[11:22] <wickedpuppy> apoz .. i did windows one partition , fat32 for my mp3 and linux
[11:22] <Andre4s> can
[11:22] <micro_girl> i tried apt-cdrom -d=/media/iso/ !
[11:22] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: NTFS is read only for Linux
[11:22] <jsteidl> wickedpuppy: got it under gentoo.. :) but i refuse to use the source because i only use the distros package-systems.
[11:22] <bibe> Shunyata, do you compile that from source or from a debian/ubuntu-packaged source?
[11:22] <starscalling> n3k0star
[11:23] <dooglus> Madpilot: not strictly true
[11:23] <apoZ> bibe, what do you meen
[11:23] <geoffj> micro_girl: have you tried the -m  option?
[11:23] <apoZ> mean*
[11:23] <intelikey> micro_girl didn't you leave out "add" ?
[11:23] <wickedpuppy> jsteidl, refuse to use source ? why ?
[11:23] <wickedpuppy> where is the fun in that ?
[11:23] <thoreauputic> micro_girl: the = is wrong - and did you add /media/iso to fstab ?
[11:23] <Shunyata> bibe : from source
[11:23] <dmlinux> hey all
[11:23] <wickedpuppy> anyway its ./configure && make && make install
[11:23] <dmlinux> I am tryin again to config my BT mouse
[11:23] <Madpilot> dooglus: I gather the write-NTFS stuff is still flakey?
[11:23] <Shunyata> bibe could not find any working package anyway
[11:23] <bibe> apoZ, will you run Linux without a swap partition?
[11:23] <mvhenten> so nobody who knows about my problem? too bad. I'll just rm -rf the plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla/
[11:23] <dmlinux> and am following a guide and it says:::::::::put the following lines in the .xsession file in your home directory:** WHERE IS THIS FILE
[11:23] <apoZ> bibe, I thought so
[11:23] <micro_girl> >_<
[11:23] <AES_24_96> man most of the stuff people bring me will be NTFS
[11:23] <[LethAL] > dmlinux, it's hidden
[11:23] <bibe> Shunyata, where did you download the sources?
[11:23] <intelikey> thoreauputic it doesn't need added to fstab it is hand mounted.
[11:24] <micro_girl> i can hardly think.... please tell me exactly what to do
[11:24] <Shunyata> bibe : from sourceforge
[11:24] <locomorto> !tell SolidRaven about repos
[11:24] <micro_girl> it's 10:24 here, and i'll go to bed when i finish this
[11:24] <dooglus> Madpilot: I hear that the "captive" NTFS stuff is good - it uses the Microsoft ntfs driver
[11:24] <jsteidl> wickedpuppy: because i loose control over my packages in that way. how can i be sure that all files are removed when i want to uninstall it? i like tools like emerge and apt... :)
[11:24] <wickedpuppy> AES_24_96, they can't bring you NTFS
[11:24] <thoreauputic> intelikey: if it is mounted, I guess yeah
[11:24] <[LethAL] > !captive
[11:24] <ubotu> captive is, like, a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[11:24] <AES_24_96> actually we normally partition the audio drives in half and only use the outer half for anything, maybe we could fat 32 the inside
[11:24] <wickedpuppy> unless they bring the whole harddisk to you
[11:24] <Madpilot> dooglus: good to know
[11:24] <dmlinux> [LethAl]  how do i get to it then
[11:24] <apoZ> bibe, please explain the swap partition
[11:24] <bibe> apoZ, you can run Linux w/o swap if you don't plan to use it very often... else, I strongly recommend you to have a swap partition
[11:24] <[LethAL] > dmlinux, In what app?
[11:24] <dooglus> Madpilot: I never tried it, but I hear it's good
[11:24] <AES_24_96> wickedpuppy why cant they bring me ntfs? they always do
[11:25] <Andre4s> I have a script that I want to run every time the computer boots, how do I do?
[11:25] <Madpilot> bibe: if you've got enough RAM you don't need swap...
[11:25] <wickedpuppy> NTFS is a file system ....
[11:25] <bibe> apoZ, it's a partition on your hard disk that "extends" the RAM
[11:25] <wickedpuppy> not a program
[11:25] <dooglus> Andre4s: edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[11:25] <dmlinux> [LethAl]  it says just put a couple lines of code into your xession file in your hom dir
[11:25] <AES_24_96> yeah, they bring me drives with the stuff formatted to ntfs
[11:25] <Shunyata> bibe : i must admit i'm quite newbie ... but willing to learn
[11:25] <apoZ> bibe, how do I do that ? Never heard of swap partitin
[11:25] <[LethAL] > dmlinux, Open gedit, open file then right-click and select show hiddon files
[11:25] <intelikey> micro_girl i can't type the command for you as concerning apt-cdrom, i don't use ubuntu or debian so i don't have the apt syntax memorized.  sorry.
[11:25] <wickedpuppy> ah k ... well ... you can read ... meaning copy ... but write back to it is very dangerous
[11:25] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: what do you do that needs whole drives moved around like that?
[11:26] <wickedpuppy> apoZ, why not google for it ?
[11:26] <AES_24_96> Im a recording engineer
[11:26] <Shunyata> bibe: i tried to look on forums and google but could not find anything
[11:26] <bibe> Madpilot, sure, but it's not so difficult to fulfill all the RAM
[11:26] <bibe> Shunyata, please tell me the URL to the latest sources
[11:26] <AES_24_96> Madpilot here is my ugly mug http://www.recordingproject.com/articles/article.php?article=23
[11:27] <starscalling> yay i actually found it!!!!!
[11:27] <Madpilot> bibe: with 1Gb, I've only saturated my RAM when an app misbehaves...
[11:27] <micro_girl> can anyone please tell me how to do it?
[11:27] <dmlinux> [LethAl]  the file im looking for isnt there
[11:27] <apoZ> wickedpuppy, i hate googling :p
[11:27] <wickedpuppy> apoz , you will hate man too .. in that case
[11:27] <wickedpuppy> lol
[11:27] <dmlinux> [LethAl]  put the following lines in the .xsession file in your home directory:**
[11:27] <brownie17> i have set up a 2 gig swap partition, i have 700 meg of DDR RAM allready, how much swap space is recommended?
[11:27] <intelikey> micro_girl it will be something like "apt-cdrom add -m /media/iso0 "
[11:27] <brownie17> how can i check how much of my swap space actualyl getts used
[11:27] <dmlinux> [LethAl]  why does every person making a guide have to make it so vague lol
[11:28] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, your system hardly needs swap
[11:28] <Shunyata> bib: here is the url http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=98211&package_id=105189&release_id=356415
[11:28] <[LethAL] > dmlinux, I've allready told you what to do
[11:28] <wickedpuppy> 2 gig is overkill
[11:28] <Madpilot> dmlinux: .xsession is a hidden file; in Nautilus hit Ctrl+H
[11:28] <HappyFool> brownie17: maybe 'free' will help; i imagine 2 GB will be fine
[11:28] <dmlinux> Madpilot thanks, but i cant find the file this person told me to put code into
[11:28] <bibe> Madpilot, that depends on how you stress your system... I can easily fulfill 1GB of RAM while compiling a kernel and using blender
[11:29] <dmlinux> madpilot im looking for a .xsession in my home dir.. but i dont see one
[11:29] <Sirrush> Hello everyone
[11:29] <bibe> apoZ, how did you install (or do you plan to install) ubuntu?
[11:29] <micro_girl> apt-cdrom add -d /media/iso/ <--- it finally worked with this...
[11:29] <[LethAL] > dmlinux, As we've said, it's hidden
[11:29] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: you have to make the .xsession file - " touch .xsession " or save as .xsession
[11:29] <brownie17> can somebody help me? i have a seperate disk that until now was completely usable through "computer", althought it was ntfs so i couldn't write to it. i installed captive-ntfs and now it won't mount. says it doesnt exist
[11:29] <intelikey> micro_girl your welcome  :)
[11:29] <[LethAL] > brownie17, captive doesn't work on Ubuntu
[11:30] <thoreauputic> [LethAL] : by default .xsession doesn't exist :)
[11:30] <bibe> apoZ, I mean, how did you partition your drive
[11:30] <[LethAL] > thoreauputic, ah.
[11:30] <apoZ> bibe, I've got Live cd now
[11:30] <[LethAL] > !lart me
[11:30] <micro_girl> thanks everyone
[11:30] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, i hope you read the warning message that captive doesn't work on ubuntu ?
[11:30] <micro_girl> I just have a final question, before going to bed
[11:30] <apoZ> bibe,  planning to make 2 partitions, 1 for XP , the other for Ubuntu
[11:30] <brownie17> [LethAL] , that's not what the website said. i beleive you. how can i fix the problem? is my hard drive ruined? it's pretty old. its a seagate 8gb
[11:30] <brownie17> wickedpuppy, on the website it said it worked on ubuntu
[11:30] <micro_girl> after logging out, do all the partitions I mounted become unmounted?
[11:30] <[LethAL] > brownie17, thoreauputic said the file doesn't normally exist
[11:30] <HappyFool> brownie17: which website?
[11:30] <thoreauputic> micro_girl: glad to hear it worked out :)
[11:31] <bibe> Shunyata, just a moment
[11:31] <intelikey> micro_girl yes.
[11:31] <brownie17> HappyFool,  the website K^Holtz gave me
[11:31] <THePyromaniac> hey guys, how can i make a FAT32 partition and mount it to /home/username/media ?
[11:31] <intelikey> but if you exit the terminal you typed them in the commands are stored in the .bash_history file micro_girl
[11:31] <HappyFool> brownie17: i may be wrong, but i think captive requires a patched (i.e., modified) kernel, and that ubuntu 5.04 kernel does not support captive
[11:31] <bibe> Shunyata, did you already install build-essential package?
[11:32] <thoreauputic> brownie17: ~/.xsession is the start up file for the "default system session" in gdm - normally it isn't used unless you configure to use it
[11:32] <brownie17> thoreauputic, [LethAL] , what is this about .xsession not existing!!?!?!?!
[11:32] <thoreauputic> brownie17: see above
[11:32] <Cynos> Just make it already,
[11:32] <Sirrush> I installed Breezy Badger recently and was wondering how to get acceleration for my video card ( ATI Radeon 9000 Pro) I've installed the I have installed xorg-driver-fglrx, but it is still very laggy, I had it previously on Hoarary where it was much quicker any idea's or help would be much appreciated Thanks
[11:32] <Cynos> vim ~/.xsession
[11:32] <[LethAL] > Cynos, he won't know how to use it
[11:32] <brownie17> thoreauputic, what does that have to do with me?
[11:32] <[LethAL] > Cynos, be nice :-)
[11:32] <intelikey> you can open it with an editor and save the commands you need to a script micro_girl, that is a good way to learn more about linux.
[11:33] <thoreauputic> brownie17: erm, you asked about .xsession ?
[11:33] <brownie17> HappyFool, ok, so i am over captive, but how about getting my drive to work again? it has some stuff i want
[11:33] <micro_girl> shit! >_< now, it is asking me for the cd again
[11:33] <brownie17> thoreauputic, i don't beleive i did. are you sure?
[11:33] <Cynos> [Lethal]  - Yeah, alright.
[11:33] <thoreauputic> brownie17 thoreauputic, [LethAL] , what is this about .xsession not existing!!?!?!?!
[11:33] <Cynos> Nano !/.xession
[11:33] <[LethAL] > Ah :)
[11:33] <Cynos> Erk, Nano ~/.xsession
[11:33] <geoffj> micro_girl: did you add the -m option?
[11:33] <[LethAL] > Cynos, it's nano anyway :P
[11:34] <HappyFool> brownie17: i don't believe ntfs partitions are usually automounted
[11:34] <Cynos> thoreauputic - it doesn't exist in your user directory unless you make it.
[11:34] <brownie17> thoreauputic, i only said that because [LethAL]  told me you said something to me about it. i wanted to know why
[11:34] <HappyFool> brownie17: did you maybe run the 'windowsdrive' script to mount it ?
[11:34] <thoreauputic> Cynos: I am well aware of thet
[11:34] <brownie17> HappyFool, yes, but i installed the winmac_fstab script
[11:34] <Cynos> K, just checking.
[11:34] <HappyFool> brownie17: ok; you need to make sure it runs on boot
[11:34] <brownie17> HappyFool, so my windows partititons are auto-mounted
[11:34] <brownie17> HappyFool, so reboot?
[11:34] <HappyFool> brownie17: unless winmac_fstab edits the fstab ?
[11:34] <HappyFool> brownie17: no
[11:34] <brownie17> HappyFool, yes it does
[11:35] <brownie17> HappyFool, um.. i think so
[11:35] <bibe> Shunyata, I configured the sources, I am now compiling
[11:35] <HappyFool> brownie17: can you paste your /etc/fstab, and the output of 'mount' and 'sudo fdisk -l' to the pastebin ?
[11:35] <intelikey> micro_girl open the Term and type "sudo apt-config " (might hit the tab key to make sure it is not configure) and the bottom line "edit <blah>" and comment out the first line.
[11:35] <HappyFool> brownie17: you can put it all on one paste, just be sure to separate the outputs clearly
[11:35] <brownie17> HappyFool,  ok
[11:35] <bibe> Shunyata, you only need build-essential, libgdbm-dev and libid3tag0-dev packages. Please read the configure error messages...
[11:36] <Shunyata> bibe : i'll look for it
[11:36] <intelikey> micro_girl can i ask if you are on dialup or is there some reason not to use the online sources ?
[11:36] <Cynos> Hey can anyone here fill me in on Breezy, before I blow my cap?
[11:36] <bibe> Shunyata, you simply need to issue a 'sudo apt-get install build-essential libgdbm-dev libid3tag0-dev
[11:36] <hendric> how will i verify if v4l is running or not?
[11:37] <Cynos> Basically, is it stable at mo?
[11:37] <agong> Hey. I just got Ubuntu 5.10 RC installed on my Dell Inspiron 600m and it works GREAT. However I'm a new Linux user so I do have some "stupid" questions. I'll start with my biggest concern, that's firewall. Do Linux operating systems need firewall to secure the connections? If so, which one would you guys recommend?
[11:37] <bibe> Shunyata, then unpack the sources, cd to the sources dir and './configure && make && sudo make install'
[11:37] <Shunyata> bibe : some stuff was missing
[11:37] <micro_girl> intelikey, in portugal we have download limit, and if I downloaded that I would have to use 1/4 of our monthly downloads!
[11:37] <THePyromaniac> agong: look up firestarter
[11:37] <NsOmNiAc> agong : you can use Firestarter .. GUI based
[11:37] <intelikey> i see.
[11:37] <bibe> agong, else take a look to shorewall
[11:38] <HappyFool> Cynos: it's at release-candidate stage; final is due this Friday, why not just wait?
[11:38] <thoreauputic> agong: unless you run services, you won't need a firewall as such - no ports listen by default
[11:38] <brownie17> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2909
[11:38] <hendric> how will i verify if v4l is running or not?
[11:38] <THePyromaniac> so anyone know? I know how to do partitions in the install manager, but not from within ubuntu. How can i make a FAT32 partition as a repositry of all my music? :D
[11:39] <HappyFool> brownie17: hmm
[11:39] <intelikey> THePyromaniac cfdisk
[11:39] <thoreauputic> hendric: try pgrep v4l - if you get a number it is running
[11:39] <thoreauputic> hendric: or do  ps aux | grep v4l
[11:39] <HappyFool> brownie17: that /dev/hda2 looks wrong
[11:39] <intelikey> THePyromaniac oh you mean add the mount point or make the partition ?
[11:40] <hendric> thoreauputic,no result.. how can i enable it?
[11:40] <HappyFool> brownie17: how many partitions are on your windows disk ?
[11:40] <brownie17> HappyFool, aaaaa, which bit is that hda2 in?
[11:40] <AES_24_96> Madpilot ok aso this is what I want to grab right? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[11:40] <HappyFool> brownie17: in /etc/fstab
[11:40] <thoreauputic> hendric: I'm not familiar with v4l
[11:40] <hendric> ok..
[11:40] <THePyromaniac> intelikey, no idea. at the moment the partition is just a idea in my head. what would i go about doing to make it reality? lol
[11:40] <HappyFool> brownie17: my suggestions is to remove the last three lines of fstab and rerun winmac_fstab
[11:40] <thoreauputic> hendric: try looking up the man - man v4l
[11:40] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: that's where you'll get the ISOs of Ubuntu, yes
[11:40] <intelikey> THePyromaniac cfdisk
[11:40] <brownie17> HappyFool, well theres a little controversy here, there was two, one win win98 and one with winxp, i deleted the win98 and apparently there were vital booting information for both stored on it, now i can't boot from the winxp
[11:40] <THePyromaniac> thanks
[11:40] <hendric> anyone here who can help me run v4l.. i got it running on my last installation (out of the box) i wonder not now
[11:41] <intelikey> np
[11:41] <thoreauputic> hendric: or  v4l --help
[11:41] <THePyromaniac> i can make it go to /home/username/media right?
[11:41] <HappyFool> brownie17: doh
[11:41] <micro_girl> DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :@
[11:41] <micro_girl> -_-
[11:41] <micro_girl> sorry everyone!
[11:41] <HappyFool> brownie17: hmm. do you have a winxp install disk?
[11:41] <micro_girl> any idea on how to mount something on /cdrom/ ?
[11:41] <agong> Thank you. My second and last question for the day would be is it possible just to install the ESSENTIAL files that's needed to run Linux and the GNOME GUI without all the extra applications such as the games, Totem, Openoffice, etc. or do I have to go to the Synaptic Package Manager to remove them after the installation?
[11:41] <THePyromaniac> intelikey: it says error opening disk
[11:42] <brownie17> HappyFool, yes, i do. winxp professional corporate editiong
[11:42] <THePyromaniac> intelikey, my bad, didnt sudo
[11:42] <HappyFool> brownie17: hmm, i was going to suggest using 'fixmbr', but actually that might not help.
[11:42] <wdh> The following packages have unmet dependencies: grisbi: Depends: libofx1c2 but it is not installable
[11:42] <Madpilot> agong: they're all installed by default, in the usual install. Why would you not want to have a full install?
[11:42] <wdh> E: Broken packages
[11:42] <HappyFool> brownie17: a solution might be to get grub to boot windows XP for you
[11:42] <wdh> is this a bug in breezy?
[11:42] <brownie17> HappyFool, do you still want me to remove the last three lines of fstab?
[11:43] <HappyFool> brownie17: well, i don't think you want that 'captive-ntfs' entry
[11:43] <HappyFool> brownie17: maybe make a backup of it in your home directory
[11:43] <THePyromaniac> anyone knows how to pass a parameter to cfdisk to make it load a different HD to the first one it sees? its noticing my windows HD and not my main
[11:43] <agong> Madpilot: I suppose it's not that much of a big deal, just a matter of personal preference, I just don't like to install softwares or libraries that I will not be using.
[11:43] <intelikey> THePyromaniac first you make the partition "sudo cfdisk /dev/hd<?> "  then you format the partition "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hd<?#> "  then you add the mount options to /etc/fstab "man fstab && sudo gedit /etc/fstab"  <--- that's how.
[11:43] <HappyFool> brownie17: remove from '#Added by winmac_fstab utility' onwards
[11:44] <brownie17> HappyFool, yes, but how? i cannot do it. i really want to get grub to boot winxp. it did at one point, then after i deleted 98 partition, it was still in the menu, but trying to actually boot xp gave me an error, then for other reasons i reinstalled ubuntu and then it just didn't appear
[11:44] <THePyromaniac> intelikey thanks, this may go horribly wrong ^^
[11:44] <geoffj> micro_girl: how about manuall adding the line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <HappyFool> brownie17: what error did you get?
[11:44] <micro_girl> already tried that
[11:44] <micro_girl> well, i give up
[11:44] <AES_24_96> ok Im downloading it!
[11:44] <micro_girl> i am going to bed
[11:44] <geoffj> micro_girl: "deb file:///media/iso/ hoary main"
[11:44] <micro_girl> seeya everyone....
[11:44] <brownie17> HappyFool, so run sudo gedit /etc/fstab then delete the last three lines and rerun winmac_stab? do i need to redownload winmac_fstab?
[11:44] <agong> But thank you all for your help, this is a great community. Rest assured I'll be back here often. See ya guys.
[11:44] <micro_girl> seeya other day, everyone! and thanks!
[11:45] <brownie17> micro_girl, cya
[11:45] <intelikey> THePyromaniac read before you type.  cfdisk can wipe out a whole drive at one time..... :)
[11:45] <THePyromaniac> eep ok
[11:45] <HappyFool> brownie17: if you erased winmac_fstab, you'll need to redownload it ;)
[11:45] <brownie17> HappyFool, i think i did.
[11:45] <brownie17> !winmac_fstab
[11:45] <ubotu> brownie17: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:45] <brownie17> hahah
[11:45] <HappyFool> !tell brownie17 about windowsdrives
[11:45] <Shunyata> bibe: thx a lot libid3dev was missing now i can compile :)
[11:45] <dmlinux> Anyone know how to clear out my Memory swap partition?
[11:46] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: well you can do  sudo swapoff -a && sudo swapon -a
[11:46] <intelikey> THePyromaniac it is a good rule of thumb, if you are root(including sudo) always read first type only when sure.
[11:46] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: if you are sure you want to ... :)
[11:47] <intelikey> dmlinux sudo swapoff -a
[11:47] <dmlinux> thoreauptic what does it do , because right now its full , and im getting some wierd error when i boot
[11:47] <intelikey> dmlinux sudo swapon -a  to reactivate it.
[11:47] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: it turns off swap, then turns it back on
[11:48] <thoreauputic> intelikey: I already told him that :)
[11:48] <brownie17> HappyFool, how do i run the utility? executing it in terminal just makes it close straight away
[11:48] <HappyFool> brownie17: makes what close? the terminal?
[11:48] <brownie17> HappyFool, yes. i didn't open the terminal and cd to it. i just double clicked the file and chose the optuon "execute in terminal"
[11:49] <intelikey> i don't have a swap <anything> and only 98m ram  works fine.  but cups is a ram eater. if you run cups you need more that 98m
[11:49] <HappyFool> brownie17: oh
[11:49] <dmlinux> what does Memory swap partition do?
[11:49] <HappyFool> brownie17: no, open a terminal and run it with sudo
[11:49] <HappyFool> brownie17: maybe 'sudo sh ./winmac_fstab'
[11:49] <HappyFool> brownie17: make that 'sudo bash winmac_stab'
[11:50] <hendric> how do i mount my webcam? i got the driver installed and v4l running.. but it errors out "/dev/video0 no such file"
[11:50] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: in simple terms, it's an "overflow" for situations where ram is under pressure - but that's an oversimplification
[11:50] <brownie17> HappyFool, i did sh, and it worked
[11:50] <brownie17> HappyFool, my drive is fixed
[11:50] <dmlinux> thoreauputic ah ok, gonna reboot see if i get the message again
[11:50] <HappyFool> brownie17: great
[11:50] <HappyFool> brownie17: maybe uninstall the captive-ntfs package
[11:50] <brownie17> HappyFool, now is there ANY way to safely write two small files to that hard disk on ubuntu?
[11:51] <HappyFool> brownie17: hmm. i haven't used captive, sorry
[11:51] <HappyFool> brownie17: this is to fix your boot problem?
[11:51] <brownie17> HappyFool, not necessarily captive
[11:51] <brownie17> HappyFool, yes
[11:51] <koex> hi
[11:51] <hendric> how do i mount my webcam? i got the driver installed and v4l running.. but it errors out "/dev/video0 no such file"
[11:51] <brownie17> HappyFool, i want to write the files "ntldr" & "ntdetect" to the hard drive, because somewhere i read that might fix the problem
[11:52] <HappyFool> brownie17: my suggestion would be to find a live cd with captive support (I *think* knoppix might have such support)
[11:52] <HappyFool> brownie17: that assumes bandwidth is not an issue for you
[11:53] <brownie17> HappyFool, i have unlimited downloads, or close enough, but i only have a 256 connection, and  i am not known for my patience. would it be better to run "knoppix" permantently? or is it more difficult than ubuntu
[11:53] <HappyFool> brownie17: i don't know what other options you have for writing to ntfs from linux than captive; i think it may be the only one
[11:53] <pepsi> how can i get the system to read /etc/fstab again and mount stuff?
[11:53] <intelikey> dmlinux if is a paging partition/file  it gives linux a place to write what is in ram and clear that page of ram for use with another app or even the same app...  then as is needed it rereads the memory in swap backinto the ram.      (also slows a system down if you don't need it, and it is being used anyway)   but with standard linux systems swap is only supposed to be written to when free ram < 2~4 m      problem is that
[11:53] <antix> where should I put iptables directives in ubuntu? /etc/init.d/networking ?
[11:54] <THePyromaniac> intelikey, is it possible for me to mount it to /home/username/media? i want to know if this is likely to break it before i reboot and find i can no longer get into ubuntu
[11:54] <HappyFool> brownie17: i'm not a knoppix user; as far as i know it's debian based, and is focussed on being a live-cd, rather than a normal 'installed' linux
[11:54] <brownie17> HappyFool, ok, well do you mind giving me a download page for a knoppix livecd?
[11:54] <intelikey> that means you may be into swap because of allocated ram way before you actually need it.
[11:54] <HappyFool> brownie17: www.knoppix.org, it looks like
[11:54] <HappyFool> brownie17: first check if it has captive support!
[11:54] <intelikey> THePyromaniac yes you can mount to any dir.
[11:55] <brownie17> HappyFool, will do. thankyou
[11:55] <HappyFool> brownie17: maybe you can ask on #knoppix about that
[11:55] <brownie17> HappyFool, the website you gave me is german, my german is only enough to understand VERY little.
[11:55] <HappyFool> brownie17: oops
[11:55] <thoreauputic> brownie17: try knoppix.net
[11:55] <brownie17> HappyFool, no worries, i found an english version
[11:56] <HappyFool> brownie17: there's a little amerbritish flag thing
[11:56] <thoreauputic> there's an english knoppix site - I think thta's it
[11:56] <THePyromaniac> intelikey thanks :D
[11:56] <intelikey> np
[11:58] <kemik> hmm
[11:59] <kemik> fglrx is b0rked in breezy ?
[11:59] <kemik> or updating from hoary->breezy requires some work to get fglrx to work ?
[11:59] <HappyFool> brownie17: still here?
[12:00] <HappyFool> brownie17: according to this http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Rescue_FAQ there is NO ntfs write support; sorry for suggesting otherwise
[12:01] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: brownie17 I seem to recall kanotix includes captive
[12:01] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: thanks
[12:02] <brownie17> HappyFool, i am still here, i am hearing it is possible ot mount an ntfs disk with rw support, but it damages the filesystem, and the fixntfs tool must be run afterwards.
[12:02] <brownie17> !kanotix
[12:02] <ubotu> brownie17: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:02] <HappyFool> brownie17: this is on #knoppix ?
[12:02] <HappyFool> brownie17: i presume they know better than us ;)
[12:02] <brownie17> HappyFool, no, this is on a website forum
[12:02] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey, how will i know if it worked or not? chuckle. i dont see it in Computer, /media/ or anywhere else
[12:02] <brownie17> HappyFool, probably, maybe i should go there and ask?
[12:03] <brownie17> thoreauputic, what is kanotix?
[12:03] <intelikey> what is the number of the partition ThePyromaniac ?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> brownie17: a knoppix variant
[12:03] <brownie17> thoreauputic, ok thankyou
[12:03] <intelikey> or even simpler still just run "fdisk -l "
[12:03] <HappyFool> brownie17: i would. bit of an empty channel though
[12:03] <ThePyromaniac> sda5
[12:04] <intelikey> or even simpler still just run "fdisk -l "
[12:04] <Arnald> brownie17: what is google? ;)
[12:04] <Syruss> vas ist das!?
[12:04] <brownie17> Arnald, hahah, yeah i am doing that aswell atm, but it is giving me an answer different to the one i want :P
[12:05] <Arnald> ;)
[12:05] <thoreauputic> brownie17: ask in #kanotix - kano is often there as well
[12:05] <inuyasha> hello again! i got ubuntu working! found some more system controls :)
[12:05] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey, it seems that there is both sda2 and sda5 that are the same size and start in the same place, its meant to be sda5.
[12:05] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac if it shows up in "fdisk -l "  it worked.    you can "sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda5 /home<blah> "
[12:05] <ThePyromaniac> and i ran the commands you said, but it still says the filetype is linux not vfat
[12:06] <intelikey> yes ThePyromaniac it is both of them.   #2 is the extended partition and #5 is the logical drive.
[12:06] <ThePyromaniac> thanks for telling me how to mount, how can i change to vfat? ^^
[12:07] <brownie17> kanotix requires some fair amount of work apparently, the kanotix website itself tells me it's drivers for captive are out of date and i should download new ones. why do they not just put the new ones on themselves?
[12:07] <intelikey> umount it.  and "mkfs.vfat /dev/sda5 "   thought i told you that ^ up there....
[12:07] <HappyFool> brownie17: time is limited. this is all volunteer work, remember
[12:07] <HappyFool> brownie17: well, i assume it is, anyway
[12:08] <brownie17> HappyFool, i am not blaming them, i am just saying i may not have the expertise to do it myself
[12:08] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey i followed insturctions and it looked like it worked, but fdisk says linux as the file system
[12:08] <ThePyromaniac> how do i unmount it now? lol
[12:08] <brownie17> gtg
[12:09] <intelikey> use the up arrow key until the mount command appears and hit home and put a u in front of it    umount <blah>
[12:09] <HappyFool> brownie17: how about this? http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ -- assuming you have another win pc around
[12:10] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey ahh, well that command didnt mount it anyhoo, cause it says it needs a filesystem specified
[12:10] <intelikey> ok ThePyromaniac i know what you did.   lol    you made the partition in cfdisk but didn't change the type to fat32 lol   go back to step one....
[12:10] <ThePyromaniac> ok
[12:10] <ThePyromaniac> its not mounted, but in fstab ^^
[12:10] <ThePyromaniac> i dont have step one cause i restarted, remember? :D
[12:11] <Anchovie> Hey guys. I have always wondered how would you install programs with *.tar.gz format under Linux. Well what I did with this particular program is I CD'ed to it's path contains the source and I typed "./configure", and I get the error "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:11] <Anchovie> See `config.log' for more details." So bascially now I'm stuck.
[12:11] <snadge-l> i hope this isnt too much of a noob question.. but when i do an upgrade with hoary, the laptop locks up competely configuting the utils-linux package
[12:11] <HappyFool> Anchovie: you need to install the 'build-essential' package
[12:11] <HappyFool> Anchovie: you can use synaptic to do that
[12:11] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac "cfdisk /dev/sda "   and select partition 5 right arrow to change type.   :)
[12:12] <snadge-l> completely and configuring.. if i could type properly
[12:12] <sueE> Hello, I'm trying to compile a piece of software in order to package it for ubuntu for some friends.
[12:12] <intelikey> me thinks if you logged out you probbly have the commands in history....
[12:12] <Anchovie> HappyFool: How would I import the package into the Synpatic Package Manager?
[12:12] <sueE> However, I am running into troubles when running autoconf
[12:12] <sueE> it gives me:
[12:12] <ThePyromaniac> got it!
[12:12] <sueE> configure.ac:335: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_SDL
[12:12] <sueE> autoreconf: /usr/bin/autoconf failed with exit status: 1
[12:12] <HappyFool> sueE: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch might be of help, but I recommend http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
[12:12] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey next? ^-^
[12:12] <HappyFool> Anchovie: it should be listed in Synaptic already
[12:13] <dooglus> hmmm.  beagle works great in breezy now even with reiserfs...  it didn't a few weeks ago.
[12:13] <intelikey> after you change the type ThePyromaniac mkfs.vfat /dev/sda5
[12:13] <snadge-l> is there a known problem with updating the utils-linux package in hoary?
[12:13] <sueE> ok, still waiting for that window to be opened
[12:13] <HappyFool> sueE: looks like you need (at a guess) SDL autoconf macros; I'm not sure where'd you'd get them
[12:13] <inuyasha> how do i change nicks in xchat please !_!
[12:14] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey ok done, i also had 2 entries of sda3 and one was meant to be 5 heh
[12:14] <sueE> HappyFool, they should be included in the dev package!
[12:14] <HappyFool> sueE: check in the INSTALL or README file for a required automake version
[12:14] <thoreauputic> inuyasha:  /nick your new nick
[12:14] <HappyFool> sueE: i think automake might be different; I'm not sure
[12:14] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac now mount <mount_point>    cause you said it was in fstab...
[12:14] <Anchovie> HappyFool: Sorry I misinterpreted what you said, I'll give "build-essential" a try, thanks.
[12:14] <HappyFool> Anchovie: have fun ;)
[12:15] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey ok have done, i did the "sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda5 /home/phil/media" command and it didnt give an error message
[12:15] <ThePyromaniac> that all done then?
[12:15] <intelikey> that
[12:15] <sueE> HappyFool, well the autoconf is allright, I use the same one on rh and slack
[12:15] <sueE> automake too
[12:15] <intelikey> that's all.   yes.
[12:15] <HappyFool> sueE: same version?
[12:15] <sueE> yes
[12:15] <sueE> I guess the macro's are failing
[12:16] <sueE> maybe should go to deb channel to see what their solution is?
[12:16] <nipplesrulz> ah no ooder my other nick was on.... how about grouping nicks in this ircd?
[12:16] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey thanks man. as i said before, where SHOULD it show up? will it show in computer or anything?
[12:16] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac you can use "df -h " to see the free space on it and other info.
[12:16] <ThePyromaniac> cool
[12:16] <thoreauputic> nipplesrulz:  /msg nickserv help
[12:16] <sueE> gnomefree
[12:17] <intelikey> the mount point ThePyromaniac is where it shows up.  any file browser can navigate there.
[12:17] <intelikey> where ever you mounted it.  that's where it is :)
[12:17] <Licker> how do you make a file let you make changes to it?
[12:17] <thoreauputic> nipplesrulz: check theoutput on the server channel ( at the left in xchat)
[12:17] <HappyFool> sueE: you've installed the libsdl1.2-dev package?
[12:17] <intelikey> Licker chmod
[12:17] <thoreauputic> nipplesrulz: server tab I meant
[12:18] <intelikey> man chmod
[12:18] <Anchovie> Happyfool: Sorry but I'm new to Linux. Just run into another error, "checking for gaim... Package gaim was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gaim.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gaim' found
[12:18] <Anchovie> configure: error: Library requirements (gaim) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them." It looks like I'll have to edit some file to add the path of my Gaim package, but how would I do that?
[12:18] <HappyFool> Anchovie: no, you need to install development files
[12:18] <sueE> HappyFool, yes, I think I have most -dev packages
[12:18] <nipplesrulz> o.O thanx!
[12:18] <thoreauputic> Anchovie:  sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[12:18] <sueE> I have most of the available ones ;)
[12:19] <HappyFool> Anchovie: i recommend adding the 'deb-src' entries in /etc/apt/sources.list, then doing what thoreauputic suggested
[12:19] <intelikey> Anchovie snaptic  install gaim
[12:19] <HappyFool> Anchovie: or find a simpler app to compile ;). Gaim will have the gnome-libs as dependencies
[12:19] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: I assume you are compiling a new version of gaim?
[12:19] <intelikey> oh sorry thoreauputic i didn't see your post.
[12:19] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: It suppose to be an addon for Gaim which supports an Asian instant message program.
[12:20] <thoreauputic> intelikey: no worries :)
[12:20] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: I see - well as a first time compile, gaim is likely to be... *cough* an adventure
[12:20] <HappyFool> heh
[12:21] <sueE> Well, it's clear the macro's are not in the -dev packages
[12:21] <intelikey> :)
[12:21] <sueE> usually you don't need  them
[12:21] <sueE> only when doing 'own development stuff' like using cvs releases
[12:22] <Anchovie> Happyfool: How would I "add the 'deb-src' entries in /etc/apt/sources.list"? What are the commands I have to input into the Terminal?
[12:22] <HappyFool> sueE: this is related, but a bit old: http://www.libsdl.org/pipermail/sdl/2003-October/057446.html, but it mentions 'MSYS' -- is that the Mingw system?
[12:22] <HappyFool> Anchovie: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[12:23] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  - and remove the # mark from the deb-src lines, then save and update
[12:23] <HappyFool> tsk tsk. gksudo gedit.
[12:23] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: or use nano as HappyFool suggests - gedit is a GUI editor so maybe easier
[12:24] <intelikey> i would sujest "sudo apt-configure" and edit from there that also updates the db when finished.
[12:24] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: heh - yes - sudo gedit seems to work OK though
[12:24] <intelikey> but i don't use ubuntu.....  so don't listen to me.
[12:24] <feugan3333> Hi all. Could anyone do me a favour and tell me what the permissions of the files /usr/lib/cups/backend/scsi and /usr/lib/cups/backend/serial are?
[12:25] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: So I delete all the #'s in that file?
[12:25] <nipplesrulz> ok! how do i format/mount my second hdd... a link would be sufficiant :)
[12:25] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: no
[12:25] <Anchovie> Ah crap...
[12:25] <Anchovie> I haven't saved it yet...
[12:25] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: only the relevant ones - the file has other comments in it
[12:25] <intelikey> if you do i hope you used my command..... :)
[12:26] <Anchovie> Okay ugh... How do I quit without saving under nano?
[12:26] <apokryphos> Anchovie: ctrl+x, n
[12:26] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: ctrl+x and say no when it asks you to save
[12:26] <Anchovie> Oh ok, phew...
[12:26] <feugan3333> nipplesrulz: do you want to format it or mount it. Its not the same thing.
[12:26] <intelikey> yeah or use [ctrl] X
[12:27] <nipplesrulz> first i need to format it ext3 then mout it :)
[12:27] <HappyFool> intelikey: apt-config doesn't seem terribly useful to me
[12:27] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: I suggest you back up files before editing them :)
[12:27] <nipplesrulz> i just forgot the relative commands as ive only done a couple times and those a few months ago feugan3333
[12:27] <frickel> Can someone again give me the link where to get die update adress for the like "unstable" ubuntu??
[12:28] <intelikey> HappyFool it allows for a nano edit of the sources file and when you exit it updates the db.  if that errors it loops back so you can fix it....
[12:28] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you can make a backup copy with ' sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.original for instance
[12:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> does anyone know if there are PPC network install cds?
[12:28] <nipplesrulz> [commandline version preferably lol] 
[12:28] <HappyFool> intelikey: hmm. my 'apt-config' seems to muck with all the non-sources.list files
[12:28] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Oh ok, thanks! =)
[12:29] <feugan3333> nipplesrulz: mkfs.ext3 will make a ext3 partition which is formatted. You can then use the mount command.
[12:29] <HappyFool> intelikey: the stuff in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d, i think
[12:29] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: network installs are possible I believe, but perhaps not in the way you're thinking; see /msg ubotu install
[12:29] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: when you fiddle with system files it's always nice to know you have a fallback :)
[12:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok apokryphos
[12:29] <intelikey> again HappyFool yes that is what it is for.   and was the question at hand when i mentioned it.
[12:29] <feugan3333> Hi all. Could anyone do me a favour and tell me what the permissions of the files /usr/lib/cups/backend/scsi and /usr/lib/cups/backend/serial are?
[12:29] <nipplesrulz> hum
[12:30] <nipplesrulz> seems it doesnt know where the device is right off the bat !_!
[12:30] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: So I removed all the #'s before everyline that starts with "deb-src" right?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: yes, that sounds right
[12:30] <frickel> can someone give me the link to where is the ubuntu stable unstable thing is explained and where the new update deb links are?
[12:31] <apokryphos> !breezy
[12:31] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:31] <bullraiser> hi, is there anyway to set the icons to smaller size in Gnome display?
[12:31] <feugan3333> nipplesrulz: you should know which device you want to create an ext3 partition on.
[12:31] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: don't forget to reload/update
[12:31] <apokryphos> frickel: check that
[12:31] <frickel> yeah, thanx I lost this one
[12:31] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: either in synaptic, or sudo apt-get update
[12:31] <Syruss> ext3 :/
[12:31] <nipplesrulz> ic.
[12:31] <sueE> HappyFool, no, it's the same error, but the solution is not the sam
[12:31] <Syruss> try to use reiserfs whenever possible
[12:31] <Syruss> it's far superior.
[12:31] <sueE> the thing is I need to produce a package that'll run on a breezy system
[12:32] <intelikey> feugan3333 i'm not running cups  but i'd say probably 644  or 755
[12:32] <nipplesrulz> dev1 or hdd1 eh lets rummage a bit
[12:32] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Alright, thanks a bunch, it's updating in the Terminal now, I wouldn't have known I had to do that if you hadn't mentioned it.
[12:32] <Jedrick> can someone help me i downloaded a shorewall but i dont know how to config.. it says it wont run unless its configured.. help pls newbie here
[12:32] <intelikey> more likely the first
[12:32] <sueE> I'm having a presentation next week and it would be nice to do it on ubuntu instad of running live cd's
[12:32] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: that just updates the database of packages available
[12:33] <sueE> Maybe I'll just generate a 'configure' on the slack development box
[12:33] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: then you can do  sudo apt-get build-dep gaim  or whatever
[12:33] <feugan3333> intelikey: I need to know which, cause my cupd is serious messed up. It does nothing when I run "lpr mytextfile"
[12:33] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: that will fetch the buid dependencies for you
[12:33] <thoreauputic> *build
[12:34] <pc22> whats the difference with gnome and gnome universe?
[12:34] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: warning : there will be a lot of them I think ;)
[12:34] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: I got some 404's while updating the package. "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[12:34] <Anchovie> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/restricted/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] " Any idea on the fix?
[12:34] <intelikey> Anchovie thoreauputic that is why i said apt-config  it does that and makes sure all the sources lists are correct before it releases you.
[12:34] <Jedrick> can someone help me i downloaded a shorewall but i dont know how to config.. it says it wont run unless its configured.. help pls newbie here
[12:34] <thoreauputic> intelikey: OK - noted
[12:34] <spiral> hmmm, did somebody break gpgme ?
[12:34] <learn25> When will be the stable release of Ubuntu 5.10?
[12:34] <spiral> it tells me it isn't compiled for openpgp nor s/mime
[12:35] <bullraiser> this is my frist time Gnome desktop experience and wondering, if i can tweak something around to reduce the icons size to a smaller size, though i was able to set the fonts and window appearance ...
[12:35] <xophEr> how can I get my icons aligned to a grid of some sort? in gnome 2.12..
[12:35] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: there are no breezy backports yet
[12:35] <feugan3333> Jedrick: did you install the package?
[12:35] <liable> mmmm pizzza
[12:35] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: because breezy isn't released yet
[12:35] <pc22> hello?
[12:35] <Jedrick> yes
[12:35] <pc22> whats with the gnome universe?
[12:35] <Jedrick> i already install the package
[12:35] <Jedrick> all i need is to configure it
[12:36] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: basically you can ignore that, in other words
[12:36] <feugan3333> Jedrick: The ubuntu package? :-)
[12:36] <intelikey> Jedrick maybe dpkg -reconfigure shorewall
[12:36] <HappyFool> sueE: do you have an 'sdl.m4' library on your system?
[12:36] <intelikey> not sure it has a setup script.....
[12:36] <nipplesrulz> hrm... i am currently trying to log in as root.... so i tried the su command.. and when i put pass i defined for system.. it said authentication failure.. is the user i defined at system startup root?
[12:36] <zyga> hello
[12:36] <suchix> hallo
[12:36] <HappyFool> sueE: i have /usr/share/aclocal/sdl.m4
[12:36] <zyga> I'm building a stripped-down version of ubuntu
[12:36] <nipplesrulz> *system install
[12:36] <Jedrick> ok
[12:36] <zyga> what is /var/cache/archive-copier for?
[12:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell nipplesrulz about rootsudo
[12:37] <zyga> it seems to belong to base-config
[12:37] <thoreauputic> !tell nipplesrulz about root
[12:37] <zyga> but removing and purging that package left over 100 megs of debs behind
[12:37] <Jedrick> man it says  conflicting actions --control and --remove
[12:37] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: But when I tried to do the "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim" command it says "
[12:37] <Anchovie> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)"
[12:37] <HappyFool> sueE: it's part of libsdl1.2-dev -- make sure that package is installed; it has AM_PATH_SDL as the first macro defined
[12:38] <feugan3333> itelikey: not dpkg-reconfigure ?
[12:38] <intelikey> Jedrick i'm very unfamilear with dpkg  so the syntax may be wrong or even the command name ( for instantance dpkg-reconfigure man be the name )  but that would be where i'd start.
[12:38] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: OK edit the backports line ou in your sources.list
[12:38] <intelikey> yes feugan3333
[12:38] <learn25> anybody tried to run BricsCAD under ubuntu?
[12:38] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you don't need that line so just put a # in front of it
[12:38] <ragtag> Hallo zusammen
[12:39] <ragtag> benutzt jemand skype unter ubuntu?
[12:39] <nipplesrulz> even better :)
[12:39] <sueE> HappyFool, it worked, I forgot to run the shell script sh.autogen
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you'll need to ru the apt-get update again after that
[12:39] <sueE> it seems
[12:39] <HappyFool> !de
[12:39] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[12:39] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Kk, thanks.
[12:39] <sueE> HappyFool, it generates what you need. on my other machines the build tree is ancient
[12:39] <intelikey> yes feugan3333  it may be dpkg reconfigure     or dpkg.reconfigure    or .....   i don't use ubuntu so i can't even check ...
[12:39] <sueE> I have not used that shell script for months ;)
[12:39] <Jedrick> anyone can help me how to configure shorewalla
[12:40] <spiral> so, I was saying : does anyone know why gpgme is broken ?
[12:40] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you follow the reasoning, right?
[12:40] <HappyFool> dpkg-reconfigure
[12:40] <feugan3333> intelikey: talk about working blind :-)
[12:40] <intelikey> no working from a one time experance....
[12:40] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: I'm new to Linux, so much of this is not a habit yet.
[12:40] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: yes, I understand
[12:41] <feugan3333> intelikey: oh so you could see and then you became blind :-)
[12:41] <nipplesrulz> ok one last question for a bit here i HOPE lol: /dev/hdc1              36G  1.7G   33G   5% /
[12:41] <intelikey> lol
[12:41] <nipplesrulz>  <<-=-= that is my primary hdd.. so would the second hdd then be hdd ?
[12:41] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: but do you understand why I suggested editing the list ?
[12:41] <Knorrie> will gphpedit be fixed before 13 oct? it's still behaving very strange
[12:41] <intelikey> feugan3333 if you like to look at it that way.... ok  :)
[12:41] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Oh yeah, so the system won't try to get information from the backport anymore.
[12:41] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: if it's on the same ide cable
[12:41] <feugan3333> intelikey: :-)
[12:41] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: correct :)
[12:42] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: try 'sudo fdisk -l' to see the hard-drive partitions ubuntu knows about
[12:42] <nipplesrulz> yeah same cable, different phisical hdd.. why did it make first hard disk hdc? [default instal] 
[12:42] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Yeah, that's cool of you making sure people know how things work instead of just giving step-by-step instructions, which I might not learn anything at all in the end. Thanks! =)
[12:43] <intelikey> nipplesrulz if that is your primary.    the secondary on the same cable is hdd yes.   but that is second ide channel    first ide is hda
[12:43] <pragup> what should be the graphic driver for a system with MSI motherboard K8TM Series
[12:43] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: the 'master' on the second IDE bus is /dev/hdc
[12:43] <intelikey> i just said that
[12:43] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you're welcome :) It saves us time in the end anyway if people "get" it !
[12:43] <nipplesrulz> so it follows the old school a / b / c where c is first hdd by default then?
[12:44] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: no
[12:44] <intelikey> nipplesrulz no
[12:44] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: master on first ide channel is /dev/hda
[12:44] <nipplesrulz> hrm
[12:44] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: maybe you have a cd-rom or something on the other ide channel?
[12:44] <intelikey> master on second ide is hdc
[12:45] <nipplesrulz> oh! my dvd's
[12:45] <feugan3333> "fdisk -l" ussually helps to figure out which partition is which.
[12:45] <intelikey> wep
[12:46] <nipplesrulz> HappyFool,  yeah i have 2 dvd drives in the machine too, i never thought to see if they were on the first ide channel or not.. silly me
[12:46] <intelikey> he i had a system that that command didn't show anything on.....  you had to specify a device for fdisk to scan.....
[12:47] <feugan3333> Could all those that use cupsd please stand up and be proud to be out of you mind and out of control.
[12:47] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: usually you don't have to worry about that
[12:47] <ThePyromaniac> how can i change my computers network workgroup?
[12:47] <bullraiser> my maximum screen resolution, when i choose from system preferences shows only 1024*768. Is there any way to increase the resolution?
[12:47] <nipplesrulz> yay formatted! *goes to try to mout this thing ;)*
[12:47] <intelikey> lol feugan3333 .....
[12:48] <feugan3333> nipplesrulz: that's the easy part
[12:48] <HappyFool> !tell bullraiser about fixres
[12:48] <samu2> will breezy change the firefox icon btw?
[12:48] <ThePyromaniac> sam2 yes
[12:48] <intelikey> bullraiser dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:48] <HappyFool> dpkg-reconfigure
[12:48] <feugan3333> dpkg-reconfigure
[12:48] <ThePyromaniac> guys? anyone know how to change the computers workgroup? i had done it but i have forgotten
[12:49] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:49] <intelikey> sorry didn't tap the - hard enough.
[12:49] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: look maybe in system -> admin -> networking -> general
[12:49] <ThePyromaniac> HappyFool that has PC name and domain
[12:49] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: if there's no workgroup entry there, you'll need to edit smb.conf
[12:49] <bullraiser> i do only need to change to higher resolution. Would be it wise to maually edit xorg.conf or do i need to do dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[12:49] <ThePyromaniac> HappyFool i want the workgroup, but thanks mate :D
[12:49] <ThePyromaniac> zyga thanks
[12:50] <Jitsumi> So.... is there going to be any differences between Breezy Release Candidate and the final release?
[12:50] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: yeah, the wiki shows a different dialog box, which i don't get either.
[12:50] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: don't forget to restart samba later on: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[12:50] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Alright, so I did "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim" and got all the Gaim packages, then I tried to run "./configure" again it still gives me the error message "checking for gaim... Package gaim was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gaim.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gaim' found
[12:50] <Anchovie> configure: error: Library requirements (gaim) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[12:50] <Anchovie> " Any ideas?
[12:50] <intelikey> thoreauputic it is not gui  canonical method   but it is cli  canonical method
[12:50] <zyga> bullraiser: check the resolution change tool
[12:50] <bullraiser> resolution change tool?
[12:50] <thoreauputic> intelikey: erm, news to me but whatever...
[12:50] <zyga> bullraiser: system->prefs->resolution
[12:50] <nipplesrulz> yay we have achived success!!!!!! thanx guys!
[12:50] <HappyFool> Anchovie: install gaim-dev
[12:50] <dodgyville> Hello
[12:50] <zyga> bullraiser: (I've got a different locale so I cannot say exactly
[12:51] <sueE> HappyFool, I am not sure here: I need an upated version of gtk cairo to function with this package
[12:51] <sueE> it is not in synaptic
[12:51] <scanwinder> does anyone know of any software i can use to save flash animations off webpages? - like offline explorer(which is a windows program)
[12:51] <zyga> scanwinder: simply download the .swf file
[12:51] <sueE> should I also package cairo or is there an experimental repos?
[12:51] <intelikey> thoreauputic the reason being.   if you break your gui that way you already know how to fix it.
[12:51] <HappyFool> sueE: sounds like you are about to descend in dependency hell
[12:51] <sueE> no, it is not that terrible
[12:51] <sueE> it is just
[12:51] <bullraiser> i can choose only to a maximum of 1024*768 in screen resolution tool, though i am confident that it can be increased to maximum resolution.
[12:51] <zyga> scanwinder: unless they need online stuff (like downloading movies depending on your actions) it'll work
[12:51] <LasseL> which file controls what is in my gnome session?
[12:51] <feugan3333> you cant change the resolution with ctrl-alt-+ or ctr-alt--
[12:51] <sueE> there is no gtkcario 3 for ubuntu yet
[12:51] <sueE> I can make it happen ;)
[12:51] <dodgyville> scanwinder: This might work: In mozilla/firefix, go to Tools->Page Info->Media
[12:51] <intelikey> if you break gui from within gui .... eeek
[12:52] <Hellucinated> Ppl, i'm new to linux, i'm downloading ubuntu. just one question, an i format my Hd with the ubuntu cd? i'm with windows right now... sorry for such newbie question
[12:52] <ThePyromaniac> zyga thanks again. you seem to know your stuff about samba, never used it before. i have a few pc's on the network and want them to access /home/phil/media on this PC, which i have mounted a new FAT32 partition on. how would this be done?
[12:52] <HappyFool> sueE: no, no experimental repo for ubuntu afaik
[12:52] <Madpilot> !tell bullraiser about fixres
[12:52] <HappyFool> sueE: yeah, but what will that depend on? etc. etc.
[12:52] <sueE> I'll have a look at the debian stuff then
[12:52] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: it looks for development packages - if you get errors like that try apt-cache search <keyword> | grep dev
[12:52] <sueE> cairo depends on gtk2.8
[12:52] <bullraiser> Madpilot: what was that?
[12:52] <feugan3333> !tell feugan3333 about fixres
[12:52] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: check the directory sharing tool
[12:52] <scanwinder> dodgyville: how do i do it when a link has gone 2 another window and the toolbar isnt there
[12:52] <HappyFool> bullraiser: check your pm's from ubotu
[12:52] <Madpilot> bullraiser: you should have gotten a msg from the bot
[12:53] <ThePyromaniac> zyga i havent ever managed to get samba working, lol
[12:53] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: system->admin->shared folders
[12:53] <bullraiser> Madpilot: Oh cool, thanks mate.
[12:53] <zyga> it's got a nice gui for you
[12:53] <scanwinder> dodgyville: dw, worked it out
[12:53] <dodgyville> scanwinder: Right-click may give context menu with pageinfo->
[12:53] <ThePyromaniac> odd, says samba is not installed. i'll sort that
[12:54] <Anchovie> Ho ho ho I installed "gaim-dev" and it worked! Thanks!
[12:55] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: to share folders form your computer to other computers on your network you will need either nfs or samba, nfs is for unix world samba for windows world
[12:56] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Alright, so it "./configured" successfully and "make" without any errors, then I did "make install" and it worked fine. Now I guess the software is installed, but how do I access it?
[12:56] <intelikey> sudo
[12:56] <dupondje> hi guys, how can i resize a ext3 partition ? :s
[12:57] <intelikey> very carefully.....    parted maybe dupondje
[12:57] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: type this:  which gaim   and tell me what it says
[12:58] <dupondje> parted doesn't want to work
[12:58] <dupondje> i just added a hdd to my raid array, and now i want to resize the partition
[12:58] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: "/usr/bin/gaim"
[12:58] <intelikey> ekkk in a raid....  8-{
[12:58] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: OK that's the installed one - try running /usr/local/bin/gaim
[12:59] <dupondje> how can i resize partition with fdisk ?
[12:59] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: the compiled version will probably be in /usr/local
[01:00] <HappyFool> Anchovie: are you compiling gaim or a plugin?
[01:00] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: good poit
[01:00] <thoreauputic> *point
[01:00] <intelikey> dupondje if you use fdisk  you'll probably destroy it.    if there is no data on it then fdisk it. and delete make new.
[01:00] <HappyFool> dupondje: try gparted for partition resizing
[01:01] <HappyFool> is there a cli 'parted' ?
[01:01] <intelikey> there is in mdk :)
[01:01] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: yes
[01:01] <Anchovie> thoreauputic and HappyFool: I'm compiling.
[01:01] <ThePyromaniac> zyga yea im on it, thanks :D
[01:01] <kickinbahk> kickinbahk
[01:01] <intemr> hi
[01:01] <kickinbahk> hey
[01:01] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: yes, but are you compiling all of gaim or only a plugin ?
[01:02] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: and what does   ls -l /usr/local/bin/gaim  say ?
[01:02] <dupondje> intelikey
[01:02] <dupondje> with parted? what do i need to choose as beginning and @ end ?
[01:03] <intemr> have a little question, i mounted sucessfully my windows hard drive.. can i do a short cut of it to desk somehow?
[01:03] <locomorto> HappyFool: yes
[01:03] <intemr> im listening:)
[01:03] <locomorto> HappyFool: and its that command too :o)
[01:03] <intelikey> dupondje man parted   and read read read
[01:03] <locomorto> :O*
[01:03] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: "root@user:/home/agong/Downloads/openq-0.3.2# ls -l /usr/local/bin/gaim
[01:03] <Anchovie> ls: /usr/local/bin/gaim: No such file or directory"
[01:03] <locomorto> dupondje: then read some more
[01:04] <dupondje> resize partition start end
[01:04] <dupondje>     resize the filesystem on partition to start at start and end at end megabytes
[01:04] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: OK you don't have it - did you specify a path for ./configure ?
[01:04] <dupondje> but how can i set it it uses size of while hdd ?
[01:04] <HappyFool> dupondje: i recommend gparted; gui interface to this thing
[01:04] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: No I did not. I just typed "./configure" as it told me to do on the installation documentation.
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: is openq the thing you compiled?
[01:05] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Yes it is.
[01:05] <prateek> hi , i have the motherboard that the link: http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8TM-ILSR&class=mb describes. I do not have any external graphic card
[01:05] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey dont shoot me, but what was that mount command again? its not remembered by terminal or me :$
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: ah
[01:05] <intelikey> lol
[01:05] <prateek> someone please tell me which is the graphic driver which i have to use for X to run well
[01:05] <ThePyromaniac> mount -o something
[01:05] <dupondje> No Implementation: This ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout!  Parted can't resize this (yet).
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: look in /usr/local and see if you can find your compiled plugin or whatever there
[01:05] <intemr> deem, i cant access my mounted windows hard drive with my own user, only with root, but how can i give access to that directory to my own user??
[01:06] <nipplesrulz> this is so awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:06] <intelikey> mount /dev/sda5 /home/ThePyromaniac/someplace -o loop     :)
[01:06] <ThePyromaniac> inemr use root to give 755 privilages on the hdd
[01:06] <prateek> ubuntu by default has set it as vesa which i feel is not appropriate
[01:06] <ThePyromaniac> thanks :D
[01:06] <intelikey> oh  add ,umask=0 to the end
[01:06] <Wimpie>  hi all, looking for xine-ui 0.99.4 which solves the right click crash
[01:06] <intelikey> mount /dev/sda5 /home/ThePyromaniac/someplace -o loop,umask=0     :)
[01:06] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you might need to do some linking to get it to work, or load it into gaim somehow - I don't know the plugin so I can't help with that
[01:07] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: did you read the README in the tarball? Or the INSATALL or whatever?
[01:07] <HappyFool> prateek: is any onboard graphics listed on that page ?
[01:07] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Under /usr/local/ all I have is /bin, /games, /include, /lib, /man, /sbin, /share, and /src, so no the plugin I compiled.
[01:07] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Yeah I read the INSTALL file, README was empty.
[01:07] <feugan3333> Is there a way I can find out which package a file if from, for example I want to know which package /etc/cupsd.conf if from.
[01:08] <feugan3333> Is there a way I can find out which package a file if from, for example I want to know which package /etc/cupsd.conf is from.
[01:08] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you might need to dig in those directories :)
[01:08] <HappyFool> Anchovie: did INSTALL start with 'These are generic instructions' or similar?
[01:08] <intemr> ThePyromaniac how??
[01:08] <Anchovie> HappyFool: Yep, how did you know?
[01:08] <intelikey> without the umask setting your user probably wont be able to access it. ThePyromaniac   and you should edit /etc/fstab and add a line "/dev/sda5 /<mount_point> vfat defaults,umask=0 0 0 "   <-- without the quotes so you don't have to mount it again......
[01:09] <ThePyromaniac> thanks intelikey, i decided i wanted my family to access our music repositry, but not ALL my media ;)
[01:09] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac
[01:09] <zyga> feugan3333: yes there is
[01:09] <zyga> feugan3333: dpkg-query -S file
[01:09] <ThePyromaniac> yea i did that ^^
[01:09] <HappyFool> Anchovie: means the authoer didn't actually write an INSTALL file ;)
[01:09] <intelikey> k
[01:09] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Kk, I found libqq.la and libqq.so under /usr/local/lib/gaim/
[01:09] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you will need info on how to enable the plugins
[01:10] <feugan3333> zyga: Thanks
[01:10] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: I assume you put them in the gaim plugins directory, wherever that might be...
[01:10] <apoZ> wickedpuppy
[01:10] <thoreauputic> or link them
[01:10] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: And also QQWry.dat under /usr/local/share/gaim/; Alright, let me give that a try.
[01:11] <ThePyromaniac> NEXT QUESTION :p Anyone here got a good GBA Emulator?
[01:11] <apoZ> wickedpuppy I can't partition using Partition Magic
[01:11] <apoZ> it's not working
[01:11] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: it may be possible to add plugins from the gaim GUI - I've never tried it
[01:11] <ThePyromaniac> i only intend to play games that i have purchased or made myself, and have no intend or voiding copyright laws
[01:11] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac i kinda knew what the purpose was.  i use a fat partition for that reason also.    there are ways of making an ext3 partition mount where all users can access it also.   but i find it easy to use vfat.
[01:11] <Savant0> anyone here know how to merge a bunch of word lists (in text files), sorting the words for frequency and then removing the duplicates?
[01:11] <prateek> Happy_Fool : i could not locate one
[01:11] <prateek> HappyFool : i could not locate one
[01:11] <apoZ> Can anyone tell me how to resize my partition of XP ??
[01:11] <HappyFool> prateek: kind of hard to guess what video driver to use ;)
[01:12] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey my family are all on windows, they are fools lol
[01:12] <HappyFool> prateek: maybe 'lspci' or 'lshw' will tell you something
[01:12] <ThePyromaniac> need fat32 for samba
[01:12] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac yep.
[01:12] <apoZ> Can anyone tell me how the resize my partition of XP ???
[01:12] <ThePyromaniac> just gotta work out how to set samba up now...
[01:12] <codenut> When I try to use ubuntu as a CUPS print server with my HP 712C, and I try to configure it as told with the web interface, I cannot
[01:12] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: i don't think that is correct; you don't need fat32 for samba
[01:12] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Do you happen to know where is the gaim plugins directory?
[01:12] <Jedrick> ey why is that when someone msg me on irc i dont recieve there msg, instead i see this on the active channel. "*EricKoston* nag pina piolo nasav"
[01:13] <ThePyromaniac> no i mean i need fat32 so windows pc can read and write to it
[01:13] <codenut> Get it to allow me. It says the security is set and will not allow me access.
[01:13] <intelikey> apoZ ues xp's partition tool.....
[01:13] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: hang on a sec
[01:13] <prateek> HappyFool: hmm...
[01:13] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Thank you.
[01:13] <HappyFool> codenut: maybe   system -> admin -> printers?
[01:13] <codenut> It
[01:13] <codenut> It is all set up there Happy
[01:13] <apoZ> intelikey where can i find it?
[01:14] <apoZ> intelikey ??
[01:14] <HappyFool> codenut: my best guess, sorry
[01:14] <codenut> OK.
[01:14] <intelikey> apoZ i'll be shooting in the dark again but i think when xp boots you can [f8]  to it .....   ask someone that knows xp.
[01:15] <sedeki> can i upgrade g++ to 3.4 ?
[01:15] <apoZ> Does anyone know where to find partition tool of XP ?
[01:15] <aljon> hi to all!
[01:15] <ongster> hello.  how do I update my skype to the latest version?  I downloaded the latest package already but an error message appears
[01:15] <ongster> when i start installing it
[01:15] <xophEr> you guys know why I cant change the ubuntu-logo in the gnome-panel to something else? Ive tried replacing and renaming the /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png but no effect.. worked before though, dont know why it doesnt work know.. all I did was a dist-upgrade :)
[01:15] <ThePyromaniac> apoz or you can use your windows installation cd
[01:15] <prateek> HappyFool: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2912
[01:15] <sedeki> ongster how do you install it?
[01:15] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: try dpkg -L gaim
[01:16] <prateek> HappyFool: take a look at i have the lspci out put there http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2912
[01:16] <ptraguany> hola
[01:16] <ongster> used the dpkg -i command
[01:16] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: there are quite  a few .so files there - might give you some clues
[01:16] <sedeki> ongster you need to make it know you're upgrading a package
[01:16] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Kk, I see it now, thanks.
[01:16] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: that command tells you what files the gaim package installed
[01:17] <apoZ> ThePyromaniac How can i partition using the CD ?
[01:17] <ongster> sedeki, how do i do that?
[01:17] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: but not your compiled stuff - dpkg doesn't knowabout those
[01:17] <intelikey> @!ntfs
[01:17] <sedeki> ongster remove the old skype
[01:17] <intelikey> !@ntfs
[01:17] <ubotu> intelikey: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:17] <ThePyromaniac> apoz: Pretend you are going ton install windows, you can set up partitions for installation, then you just play with the partition tool on there
[01:17] <intelikey> [ubotu(n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au)]  hmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem
[01:17] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: I suggest in future if you compile something, use the checkinstall tool to make a .deb
[01:17] <intelikey>           normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can
[01:17] <intelikey>           use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS
[01:17] <intelikey>           and FAT32 partitions.
[01:17] <HappyFool> prateek: some sort of generic VIA VGA device, it looks like. maybe you can use google to see if there's a good config; i don't know how much improvement you're going to get
[01:18] <intelikey> arrr that don't help....
[01:18] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you can install checkinstall from the universe repository
[01:18] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: I tried to move the file to /usr/lib/gaim/ and it says "You do not have permissions to write to this folder."
[01:18] <apoZ> ThePyromaniac I tried that, but can I do : C ; Partitioned  Delete ?
[01:18] <apoZ> won't i lose all my files ?
[01:18] <ongster> sedeki the error message appeared even before i installed the older version
[01:18] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: right, you need to use sudo
[01:18] <ThePyromaniac> sorry i have no idea, lol. only half remember the tool
[01:18] <apoZ> ok
[01:18] <apoZ> i'll try
[01:19] <intelikey> apoZ yes any deleted partition looses all data.
[01:19] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: all system files require root privileges
[01:19] <sedeki> ongster don't install the older version, just remove the old one. dpkg --remove
[01:19] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: also you might really need to symlink rather than move them
[01:19] <ongster> ok. i'll do that
[01:20] <DNAku-san> hi
[01:20] <HappyFool> thoreauputic, Anchovie: standby
[01:20] <HappyFool> Anchovie: check this link: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q93
[01:20] <DNAku-san> I'm trying to get foomatic-gui to work on a minimalistic installation of ubuntu
 thoreauputic: I tried to move the file to /usr/lib/gaim/ and it says <--- says you didnt "sudo"   :)
[01:20] <DNAku-san> but I seem to be getting an error when executing foomatic-gui
[01:20] <HappyFool> Anchovie: link the plugin to ~/.gaim/plugins/ (you'll need to mkdir ~/.gaim/plugins first)
[01:21] <DNAku-san> http://users.telenet.be/icyanime/avas/foomatic-gui-error.txt
[01:21] <DNAku-san> I installed most of the gtkhtml packages but I'm still getting the error
[01:21] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey how do i unmount sda5 from /home/bla/media/ so i can remount to home/bla/media/music?
[01:21] <thoreauputic> intelikey: am I lagged or are you not reading my posts?
[01:21] <sedeki> ThePyromaniac umount /dev/sda5
[01:21] <DNAku-san> my ubuntu installation is getting less and less minimalistic
[01:21] <intelikey> unmount /dev/sda5
[01:21] <ThePyromaniac> aha thanks
[01:22] <sedeki> intelikey umount
[01:22] <DNAku-san> so what package contains the gtkhtml2 module?
[01:22] <intelikey> sedeki yeah///
[01:22] <thoreauputic> OK time to sign off - good luck Anchovie :) night all ...
[01:22] <HappyFool> DNAku-san: packages.ubunt.com has a file search utility
[01:22] <ThePyromaniac> error message "umount: /home/phil/media: device is busy"
[01:22] <HappyFool> oops
[01:22] <ThePyromaniac> good night friend
[01:22] <HappyFool> packages.ubuntu.com
[01:22] <DNAku-san> ok HappyFool
[01:23] <nas_> later
[01:23] <sedeki> ThePyromaniac you have to cd out of that dir and not access it from anything. use umount -f /dev/sda5 to force unmoutning
[01:23] <mantikor> or umount -l /dev/sda5
[01:24] <krolden> I enabled main, universe and multiverse in sources.list, but it still doesn't find transcode.  Any ideas of what I'm doing wrong?
[01:24] <intelikey> it shouldn't need force....    but it will need sudo umount /dev/sda5
[01:24] <mantikor> i there anybody who could help me with thunderbird under hoary?
[01:24] <HappyFool> krolden: is transcode available in hoary?
[01:24] <mantikor> i am running thunderbird 1.0.6
[01:24] <sedeki> you often forget to cd out of the mountpoint before unmounting..
[01:24] <mantikor> there was a glitch and i lost my whole profile - the mail folder included
[01:24] <mantikor>  is there any way to fix it?
[01:24] <ThePyromaniac> i cd to / and did the command. now says the old error message as well as "umount2: Device or resource busy"
[01:25] <sedeki> ThePyromaniac you have something else accessing it..
[01:25] <mantikor> try the -l option
[01:25] <Seveas> goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu!
[01:25] <HappyFool> yello Seveas
[01:25] <ThePyromaniac> the only other thing going on is im downloading breezy packages to upgrade
[01:25] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac lsof | grep -e'/dev/sda5'
[01:25] <HappyFool> still morning in .nl ?
[01:25] <Seveas> well, no
[01:25] <krolden> HappyFool: gtranscode is, so it would seem logic that transcode is available too, but the package "transcode" doesn't appear when doing a search on packages.ubuntu.com though
[01:26] <HappyFool> ;)
[01:26] <Seveas> but in my head it is :)
[01:26] <Anchovie> How do I use "sudo" command to copy a file from one dir to another?
[01:26] <cas> Is there any reason boot-admin has disapered?
[01:26] <Seveas> cas, yes, it fucks up the ubuntu-specific menu.lst
[01:26] <sedeki> Anchovie sudo cp /file1 /dir1/file1_copy
[01:26] <apokryphos> Anchovie: man cp
[01:26] <HappyFool> krolden: i should have phrased that 'i don't think transcode is available in hoary'
[01:26] <mantikor> sudo cp /folder1/file /folder2/file
[01:26] <intelikey> Anchovie sudo cp <file> <dir>
[01:26] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey not sure what it was meant to do but i did that command and then reran umount and same error ^^
[01:27] <Seveas> ThePyromaniac, lsof | grep /path/to/mountpoint
[01:27] <intelikey> it was supposed to tell you what was keeping it busy ThePyromaniac
[01:27] <ThePyromaniac> ahh i see
[01:27] <ThePyromaniac> well it said nothing ^^
[01:27] <Seveas> intelikey, lsof of the dev node won't help
[01:27] <intelikey> yes try the mount point.
[01:27] <Seveas> lsof of the mountpoint is more useful :)
[01:28] <nipplesrulz> ok
[01:28] <sedeki> Seveas "lsof" is kind of a new program isn't it?
[01:28] <nipplesrulz> would someone mind telling me how to create a link from my desktop to my second hdd? i believe its a symbolic link im trying to make?
[01:28] <HappyFool> you can irc via tor ?
[01:28] <ThePyromaniac> apparently trash is using it, and i have some folders open...
[01:28] <Seveas> sedeki, not at all
[01:28] <Seveas> HappyFool, yes, on freenode
[01:28] <cas> Seveas: installing a new kernel also does
[01:28] <Seveas> but not in #ubuntu :)
[01:28] <intelikey> kinda new as in in the last 20 years
[01:29] <cas> Seveas, thats why i need it, to fix it
[01:29] <Seveas> cas, only if you have used the boot-admin tool
[01:29] <cas> Seveas, Aah ok, that explains
[01:29] <sedeki> lsof isn't gnu is it
[01:29] <zyga> nipplesrulz: cd ~/Desktop && ln -s /your-second-hdd
[01:29] <krolden> HappyFool: I find it weird that gtranscode is available in Hoary, while its dependency (transcode) is not.  Oh well, upgrade to Breezy it is :)
[01:29] <Seveas> cas, put your current menu.lst and the output of sudo fdisk -l and ls /boot on the pastebin
[01:29] <cas> Seveas, tnx alot. Now i can let my sister upgrade withouth so much hassle :)
[01:29] <ThePyromaniac> can i make it stop doing whatever its doing?
[01:30] <zyga> nipplesrulz: note that you should probably mount your second drive :)
[01:30] <zyga> nipplesrulz: if it's an external USB drive just plugginig it in should work
[01:30] <cas> Seveas, It's all setup correctly now. so no need, tnx anyway
[01:30] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac probably, what's it doing ?
[01:30] <sedeki> Seveas do you know how to force upgrade 3.4 ?
[01:30] <Seveas> ok :)
[01:30] <sedeki> g++
[01:30] <nipplesrulz> yes ive mounted it to /mnt/sakura
[01:30] <Seveas> sedeki, apt-get install g++3.4 :)
[01:30] <Seveas> g++-3.4 even
[01:30] <sedeki> that easy, huh
[01:30] <ThePyromaniac> it said trash stuff, so i emptied trash. now... game_serv is only thing there
[01:31] <Seveas> ThePyromaniac, pkill gam_server
[01:31] <ThePyromaniac> thanks
[01:31] <digis___> i
[01:31] <sedeki> Seveas how does it know which version to use? the environment var is changed to 3.4, and so is the defaults?
[01:31] <ThePyromaniac> still 2 listings left with game-serv
[01:31] <sedeki> are the defaults*
[01:31] <nipplesrulz> so for the link do i need to say /mnt/sakura ? or just /dev/hdd1 ?
[01:32] <Seveas> sedeki, that depends on the makefile of your souftware...
[01:32] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac sudo killall gam-serv
[01:32] <HappyFool> pill -9 gam_server
[01:32] <HappyFool> oops
[01:32] <HappyFool> pkill
[01:32] <ProN00b> when will breezy be in final ?
[01:32] <Seveas> 13 oct.
[01:32] <sedeki> Seveas what do you mean, it has a absolute path?
[01:32] <ProN00b> i can't wait
[01:32] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey when i do that it says no proccess killed, then i still got 2 when i check :(
[01:33] <Seveas> sedeki, /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink to gcc-3.4 or gcc-4.0 (same for g++)
[01:33] <zyga> ProN00b: soon
[01:33] <HappyFool> gam_server -- make sure you spell it correctly
[01:33] <zyga> sedeki: check update-alternatives
[01:33] <ThePyromaniac> i am :D
[01:33] <Seveas> makefile usually use the environment variables $CC and $CXX to determine the C and C++ compilers
[01:33] <sedeki> Seveas ok, oh well.
[01:33] <goh> May I know how I can add a repositry in synaptic that looks for my hoary cd for updating in my cdrw? Currently, It looks for it in the cdrom
[01:33] <intelikey> ah it's controled by xinit .   it may not be accessable to init .......
[01:34] <ThePyromaniac> still got two left after "sudo killall gam_server"
[01:34] <Seveas> goh, the mountpoint of the cd can be specified in apt.conf (see man apt.conf)
[01:34] <zyga> sedeki: apt-get install galternatives :)
[01:35] <Seveas> zyga, gcc/g++ symlinks are not controlled by the alternatives system :(
[01:35] <benkong2> !breezy repos
[01:35] <ubotu> benkong2: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[01:35] <Seveas> !tell benkong about sources
[01:35] <zyga> Seveas: ah
[01:35] <benkong2> thanks Seveas
[01:35] <ongster> sedeki, i did what you told me.  a dependency error came up.  it says that i have a different version of libqt3c102-mt installed
[01:36] <benkong2> !sources
[01:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[01:37] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey any ideas? i still got 2 proccess running after killing gam_server
[01:37] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: I'll keep spawining back
[01:37] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac "sudo top "  and see if you can find them in there.
[01:38] <nipplesrulz> ok! the last thing i think i need tonight is some form of gui ftp client!
[01:38] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: I'd do a pkill gam_server && do-whatever-you-need-while-it's-gone
[01:38] <[LethAL] > nipplesrulz gftp
[01:38] <nipplesrulz> does apt-get work automagically?
[01:38] <[LethAL] > nipplesrulz, in what sense?
[01:38] <ThePyromaniac> aha ok
[01:38] <sedeki> Seveas if i'd want gtk+ 2.4 ?
[01:38] <Anchovie> Is there anyway to type other languages on Ubuntu 5.10RC?
[01:38] <nipplesrulz> well
[01:39] <nipplesrulz> i tried to sudo apt-get install gftp and i get a big PACKAGE not FOUND error XD
[01:39] <zyga> Anchovie: what do you mean?
[01:39] <[LethAL] > Anchovie, System, Administration, Languages iirc
[01:39] <bloodnik> I can't get sound but I don't know where to start looking for the problem. I restarted ALSA with no errors.
[01:39] <zyga> nipplesrulz: you need to set up your repositories, check synaptic - it's easier
[01:40] <bloodnik> I just installed beep media player. And yes, I told it to use ALSA :p
[01:40] <intelikey> bloodnik unmute it ?
[01:40] <flam> hey. have anyone noticed that evolution that comes with breezy doesn't show your email in your inbox (I use imap). When i select the Inbox catalog, it's empty in the spaces to the right. Yes, i've got mail on the inbox..
[01:40] <nipplesrulz> can i just use the debian repositories zyga ?
[01:40] <dodgyville> Has anyone had any trouble with the 8139 drivers in breezy?
[01:40] <bloodnik> intelikey, :P
[01:40] <bloodnik> It's not muted.
[01:40] <zyga> nipplesrulz: use ubuntu repos
[01:40] <intelikey> jus' checkin'
[01:40] <zyga> nipplesrulz: unless you really know why you want debian repos
[01:41] <ThePyromaniac> zyga interlikey right that wokrs by doing both at same time, my next problem is that it says it is mounted multiple times
[01:41] <nipplesrulz> ah
[01:41] <ThePyromaniac> this is because i didnt unmount before i tried to mount
[01:41] <ThePyromaniac> my own stupid fault. how do i get round this? lol
[01:41] <nipplesrulz> i didnt find for instance azureus in there... i suppose i might have to do manual install of something like that?
[01:41] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: umount it
[01:41] <goh> Seveas: I'm afraid that I'm still very green to this. Can I have more guidance?
[01:41] <zyga> nipplesrulz: azureus is a java application
[01:41] <zyga> nipplesrulz: you could check this: (/me looks)
[01:41] <ThePyromaniac> i am typing " sudo pkill gam_server && umount /dev/sda5"
[01:42] <HappyFool> !tell nipplesrulz about azureus
[01:42] <zyga> !tell zyga about man
[01:43] <ThePyromaniac> zyga sudo pkill gam_server && umount /dev/sda5 does not work, it says its mountedm ultiple tmies
[01:43] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[01:43] <da_bon_bon> anything i must take care of, before upgrading to breezy ?
[01:43] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: strange, can you umount the mount point without killing the gam_server?
[01:43] <ThePyromaniac> no because it says that it is busy
[01:43] <Anchovie> How do you switch to another input method to type other languages?
[01:44] <zyga> lsof | grep /your/mount/point
[01:44] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: what does that show?
[01:44] <ThePyromaniac> zyga it IS mounted many times, as i didnt unmount before mounting. i mounted it to one location, then decided i wanted it mounted to a folder within that location
[01:44] <nipplesrulz> yeah i just started looking at the repositories in symanitc and it listed multivers // etc types~! *goes searching again*
[01:44] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: then umount the inner location first
[01:44] <ThePyromaniac> i figured that, and still no luck lol
[01:45] <zyga> hmm try -f
[01:45] <zyga> force umount
[01:45] <goh> Any1 know how to set the mount point for cdrom uri using "apt.conf"?
[01:45] <ThePyromaniac> zyga think it works
[01:45] <HappyFool> Anchovie: try system -> preferences -> keyboard layout, and add a keyboard layout there
[01:45] <dodgyville> Is acpi enabled on breezy by default? even on desktops?
[01:45] <ThePyromaniac> good, i did it 4 times untill it started saying its not mounted :D
[01:45] <zyga> goh: check the gnome-software-properties
[01:45] <dodgyville> And how do I tell?
[01:46] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac i'd probably kill what ever was accessing it (gam-serv) and do what needed to be done and restart the 'gam-serv' or what ever it is.     something like " sudo /etc/init.d/gam-serv (if there is such a thing) stop && sudo umount /dev/sda5 "
[01:46] <da_bon_bon> if i upgrade to breezy, will kernel if auto updated ? if not, how do i manually update it ?
[01:46] <HappyFool> Anchovie: then rightclick on a panel (bar at top or bottom), choose 'add to panel' and choose 'keyboard indicator' from the list
[01:46] <zyga> da_bon_bon: it will be updated automatically
[01:46] <dodgyville> And how do I disable it?
[01:46] <Ed_Gein> Does anyone run the  soulseek client Nicotine?
[01:46] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey thanks but doing "sudo pkill gam_server && sudo umount -f /dev/sda5" has worked like a charm
[01:46] <goh> zyga: where do I do that? Sorry, I'm newbie
[01:46] <da_bon_bon> zyga: ok.. someone told me kernels are not auto updated by apt
[01:46] <nipplesrulz> zyga, i added the other 2 repositories and selected all 4 types... it immediately suggested i upgrade lots of things.. any real danger here? and can i change my primary repository to include all 4 types as well?
[01:47] <intelikey> k  i was typing when you posted..... ThePyromaniac .
[01:47] <zyga> goh: you can run the upgrade manager system->administration->upgrade manager, and click on preferences button
[01:47] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey i understand mate, so thanks :D
[01:47] <intelikey> i lag here.   on dialup.
[01:47] <Anchovie> HappyFool: K thanks, but the key board layout doesn't seem to have Asian Character supports...
[01:47] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey that sucks man, heh
[01:47] <zyga> da_bon_bon: that depends on configuration, they are updated in ubuntu
[01:47] <bloodnik> nipplesrulz, to upgrade to breezy you'll probably have to download about 500MB of new packages.
[01:47] <bloodnik> nipplesrulz, that's going to be a lot of packages.
[01:47] <zyga> nipplesrulz: what types?
[01:47] <da_bon_bon> ok, zyga .. where is the option located ?
[01:47] <ThePyromaniac> you arent gonna belive this... i forgot to add that mount command to my little text file full of commands i can never remember
[01:48] <bloodnik> ThePyromaniac: scroll up!
[01:48] <zyga> da_bon_bon: after clicking on the preferences button you should see a window with 'add cd' button on the right
[01:48] <nipplesrulz> zyga,  im not totally familiar with the groupings here let me look again...
[01:48] <da_bon_bon> ok, thanks, zyga
[01:48] <zyga> da_bon_bon: but I'm running breezy and maybe it's not there in hoary
[01:48] <ThePyromaniac> bloodnik thanks, but this IRC program (perhaps all IRC programs) remove top lines as new are enterted
[01:48] <HappyFool> Anchovie: hmm. sorry, not sure about that.
[01:48] <zyga> da_bon_bon: why are you trying to add a cd disk to your apt configuration anyway?
[01:49] <ThePyromaniac> bloodnik and seeing as i reset each time he saus it, it is hard to scroll up ^^
[01:49] <goh> zyga: ok, done that. My hoary cd is in my cdrw drv, hw do I set the manager to look for it in my cdrw?
[01:49] <bloodnik> ThePyromaniac,  "sudo pkill gam_server && sudo umount -f /dev/sda5"
[01:49] <da_bon_bon> zyga: no.. i meant, where is the option to set whether apt updates kernels or no.
[01:49] <zyga> Anchovie: you can get any language support
[01:49] <ThePyromaniac> bloodnik that would be an UNmount commant
[01:49] <nipplesrulz> zyga, main restricted universe multiverse <-= those types
[01:49] <zyga> Anchovie: are you using breezy or hoary?
[01:49] <ThePyromaniac> command*
[01:49] <bloodnik> oh the mount! Sorry ^_^
[01:49] <zyga> nipplesrulz: ah, those are called sections AFAIR
[01:49] <intelikey> speaking of phone.   i need to logoff and make a call.   lol ThePyromaniac if it is in etc/fstab  then "sudo mount <mount_point> "  else  "sudo mount <device> <mount_point> "   <---- please learn that :)
[01:49] <bloodnik> ThePyromaniac, what were you mounting?
[01:50] <zyga> nipplesrulz: are you just trying to install azureus or doing a breezy upgrade too?
[01:50] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey ok, remembered. its just the extra parameters and unmask, etc
[01:50] <ThePyromaniac> confused me
[01:50] <da_bon_bon> ok guys
[01:50] <da_bon_bon> cya later
[01:50] <da_bon_bon> :)
[01:50] <bloodnik> :)
[01:50] <intelikey> and ThePyromaniac you just add "u"    to unmount them....
[01:50] <ThePyromaniac> thanks ^^
[01:50] <goh> zyga: when I click add cdrom, the system fails to mount my cdrom. That's cos my cdrom is faulty. I want the manager to llok for the cd in my working cdrw drv
[01:50] <nipplesrulz> zyga, cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release Candidate i386 (20051005)] /dists/breezy/Release: Unable to find expected entry  universe/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) <-= that error on trying for the basic repository
[01:51] <nipplesrulz> im gonna install azureus but i might as well update everything while im at it :)
[01:51] <intelikey> yes ThePyromaniac for vfat fs's -o umask=o for all to access them.
[01:51] <zyga> nipplesrulz: run from command line: sudo apt-get update
[01:51] <zyga> nipplesrulz: check the results
[01:51] <intelikey> errr umask=0
[01:51] <ThePyromaniac> and where does that go? :$
[01:51] <Anchovie> zyga: Breezy, 5.10RC.
[01:51] <intelikey> hehhe.   anywhere on the line
[01:51] <zyga> goh: what do you mean by 'my cdrom is faulty'
[01:52] <nipplesrulz> it still can't find the universe repository lol
[01:52] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/sda5 /bob -o umask=0
[01:52] <goh> My cdrom is connected and detected to my system. But it can't be mounted. It's spoilt
[01:52] <ThePyromaniac> thanks
[01:52] <zyga> Anchovie: then check the language-selector tool, system->admin->language-selector
[01:52] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/sda5 -o umask=0 /bob
[01:52] <intelikey> sudo mount -o umask=0 /dev/sda5 /bob
[01:52] <pragup> Hi , whenever i try to play any video files in mplayer , vlc or anyother video player the cpu usage shoots up to drastically, can someone suggest a solution . this is my xorg.conf file  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2913
[01:52] <zyga> Anchovie: make sure to install support packages, they will enable you to type in all kinds of characters
[01:53] <intelikey> all the same.
[01:53] <ThePyromaniac> it works! thanks guys :D
[01:53] <intelikey> see yall.   good day and God bless.
[01:53] <ThePyromaniac> now, time to upgrade to breezy to get another 100 problems
[01:53] <ThePyromaniac> have a good day friend
[01:53] <Anchovie> zyga: Yeah I did the System -> Admin -> Language Selector already, but I'm having troubling finding a way to input the languages.
[01:53] <mahangu_> can i have different wallpapers for my desktops?
[01:53] <ThePyromaniac> yup
[01:53] <zyga> Anchovie: what language is that in particular?
[01:54] <ThePyromaniac> mahangu_ go to System ->Prefferences -> Desktop Background
[01:54] <zyga> Anchovie: I've checked with japanese last time
[01:54] <nipplesrulz> zyga, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[01:54] <nipplesrulz> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it? <-= seems to be the 2 main errors
[01:54] <Anchovie> zyga: Chinese.
[01:54] <zyga> mahangu_: right-click on your desktop
[01:54] <zyga> nipplesrulz: you are running two package managers at the same time, close synaptic if that's what you are running too
[01:55] <ThePyromaniac> any way to use command line to remove any file that is not a mp3? bloody windows with their folder.jpgs,thumb.db and desktop.ini files
[01:55] <zyga> Anchovie: there are some X input methods stuff as well, maybe that's what gave me all the extra features
[01:55] <nipplesrulz> ah ok... well i told symantic to just do what it wants.. ill do upgrade // update when its done then thanx
[01:55] <zyga> Anchovie: I don't remember sorry
[01:55] <ThePyromaniac> i have 150 folders that i want to remove 20ish files from, lol
[01:55] <mahangu_> ThePyromaniac, zyga : i mean in each of my four "virtual" desktops
[01:55] <ongster> oh well, so much for upgrading skype.  bye all
[01:56] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: find -name 'desktop.ini' -o -name 'thumb.db' | xargs rm -v
[01:56] <tjonahen> Hi I get a dmesg entry saying Mousepad resume bug workaround hopefully not needed, But i need is as my mouse goes awalk. How do I get de workaround?
[01:56] <ThePyromaniac> could be fun :D
[01:56] <zyga> mahangu_: you want different wallpapers for each desktop?
[01:56] <benkong2> !auto-apt
[01:56] <ubotu> benkong2: Wish i knew
[01:56] <benkong2> !checkinstall
[01:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[01:57] <Belutz> how to check ports already being used?
[01:57] <ThePyromaniac> zyga how about adding to that, if a file begins with AlbumArt?
[01:57] <zyga> benkong2: how can I check what ubotu can do/say?
[01:58] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: -o -name 'AlbumArt*'
[01:58] <ThePyromaniac> kick-ass thanks
[01:58] <benkong2> zyga, use the ! and the topic
[01:58] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: add that right before | xargs
[01:58] <Anchovie> zyga: Np, I think I see it in the Synaptic. How did you switch between input methods though?
[01:58] <benkong2> zyga,
[01:58] <dooglus> !tell ubotu about testing himself
[01:58] <benkong2> sorry that's not what u asked
[01:58] <zyga> Anchovie: there is a new context menu item after you install additional input methods
[01:58] <zyga> Anchovie: and another toolbar that floats around
[01:59] <zyga> Anchovie: very similar to tools I've seen on windows xp with japanese support
[01:59] <wrabbit01>  Hi everybody.... does anybody own a TOSHIBA SATELITTE PRO 460 or  T20 thinkpad?
[01:59] <zyga> !laptop support
[01:59] <ubotu> zyga: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:59] <pragup> Hi , whenever i try to play any video files in mplayer , vlc or anyother video player the cpu usage shoots up to drastically, can someone suggest a solution . this is my xorg.conf file  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2913
[01:59] <dooglus> ubotu, tell ubotu about ubotu
[02:00] <zyga> !tell about laptop support
[02:00] <Belutz> stop playing with the bot
[02:00] <dooglus> I thought that made him tell you about the #debian-bots channel where you can play with him.
[02:01] <dooglus> aah.  it's:
[02:01] <dooglus> !botabuse
[02:01] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[02:01] <dooglus> right.
[02:02] <ThePyromaniac> zyga you seem to be good at this stuff, how about if a file contains a "-" remove anything before that the "-" ^^
[02:02] <zyga> pragup: use a specific driver for your graphics card
[02:02] <zyga> pragup: you are now using 'vesa' which is very generic, what kind of card do you have?
[02:02] <dooglus> ThePyromaniac: what if the file contains two "-"s?
[02:03] <ThePyromaniac> zyga then i can automate the entire proccess, as some of my old collection has artist name - track and i want them all to be just track
[02:03] <ThePyromaniac> dooglus it wont :D
[02:03] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: that's trickier: do you want to remove stuff after first or last '-'
[02:03] <dooglus> ThePyromaniac: will the "-" be on a line on its own?
[02:03] <dooglus> zyga: it's only got one "-"
[02:03] <ThePyromaniac> well to play safe just the first -
[02:03] <pragup> zyga: i have no extra graphics card installed instead i have the default onboard graphics card installed
[02:04] <ThePyromaniac> even better, if we did a find looking for anythign with x2 - then we'd know :D
[02:04] <benkong2> why does this command "auto-apt updatedb && auto-apt update-local" tell me this? "E: You need write permission for /var/cache/auto-apt"
[02:05] <tombs> hi all
[02:05] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: find -name '*-*' -exec mv '{}' '`echo "{}" | sed 's/$.*-//'`'
[02:05] <Tema1> hi all
[02:05] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: but I'm not 100% sure, be sure to backup your stuff
[02:05] <zyga> ah wait
[02:05] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: find -name '*-*' -exec mv '{}' '`echo "{}" | sed 's/$.*-//'`' \;
[02:05] <Tema1> can anyone please advise on how to switch keyboard layouts?
[02:05] <benkong2> hi tombs and Temal
[02:05] <zyga> pragup: could you do lspci and msg me the result
[02:05] <Tema1> i installed 5.04 and have english and russian as my languages
[02:06] <hakan> Hello everyone.  It seems my ubuntu installation installed LILO to boot linux by default. How do I fix so I get a menu with the choice windows or linux at boot?
[02:06] <HappyFool> benkong2: i'm not familiar with 'auto-apt', but you probably need 'sudo'
[02:06] <zyga> benkong2: you need to use sudo
[02:06] <nipplesrulz> and how do i add the hoary-extras repository to my symantic please :)
[02:06] <dooglus> zyga: you said the file contained a "-".
[02:06] <zyga> Tema1: add a language selector to your panel
[02:06] <Tema1> i see - thanks
[02:06] <benkong2> ok, its just that the wiki docs indicate this is not run as sudo but I shall comply
[02:06] <dooglus> zyga: did you mean the file*name* contained a "-"?  because that's different
[02:06] <benkong2> thanks
[02:06] <ThePyromaniac> zyga lol ok thanks, i will just do that part manually :D
[02:07] <HappyFool> zyga: is there a language selector in hoary?
[02:07] <zyga> HappyFool: no
[02:07] <benkong2> HappyFool, zyga; u r correct thanks
[02:07] <zyga> dooglus: hmm?
[02:07] <Anchovie> zyga: K, I installed xsim, the X Simple Input Method, which allows me to "input Chinese in X windows system with PinYin
[02:07] <Anchovie> and WuBi input method". But the problem is I don't know how to initiate xsim, any idea?
[02:07] <ThePyromaniac> thanks zyga and dooglus, bye!
[02:08] <hakan> How do I reinstall grub or LILO so it recognizes both my partitions (windows xp and ubuntu) ? Right now it only starts up to the ubuntu partition.
[02:08] <dooglus> zyga: he said "zyga you seem to be good at this stuff, how about if a file contains a "-" remove anything before [...] ".  the file contains a "-", not the filename.
[02:08] <HappyFool> Tema1: try system -> preferences -> keyboard -> layouts -> add, and look for 'Russian' in the list. You can add a 'keyboard layout indicator' to the gnome-panel (right-click panel, choose 'add to panel' and look for that name)
[02:08] <flam> have anyone experienced any problem with evolution not wanna show your imap emails? i can't get evolution to show them
[02:08] <pragup> zyga: here is the lspci out put  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2914
[02:08] <zyga> dooglus: ah... then I've misunderstood that
[02:08] <[LethAL] > hakan, probably "sudo grub-install /dev/hda"
[02:09] <dooglus> zyga: he might have asked the wrong question - maybe you answered what he meant to ask!  :)
[02:09] <hakan> [LethAL] , and this will automatically find all my partitions etc?
[02:09] <zyga> pragup: your card is not recognized
[02:09] <[LethAL] > hakan, It -should- find you Windows one
[02:09] <zyga> pragup: is that a laptop system?
[02:09] <[LethAL] > your*
[02:09] <zyga> dooglus: maybe :)
[02:11] <hakan> [LethAL] , "command not cound". maybe only LILO is installed
[02:11] <[LethAL] > hakan, problem. I don't know anything about configuring lilo
[02:11] <nipplesrulz> >> zyga  :)
[02:11] <pragup> zyga: not a laptop , it is msi m/b based on kbtm series
[02:12] <zyga> pragup: so thats some built-in graphics card then, right?
[02:12] <pragup> zyga: exactly
[02:13] <zyga> pragup: you could theck what kind of chipset that card is using but I'd say it's not going to work really
[02:13] <LokeDK> Hi. I'm using breezy and having issues with compiling the vmware vmmon kernel module. It says Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[02:13] <LokeDK> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2". This configuration is not supported and VMware
[02:13] <LokeDK> Workstation cannot work in such configuration. Please either recompile your
[02:13] <LokeDK> kernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.plwith CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".
[02:13] <zyga> pragup: could you do: sudo lspci -v
[02:13] <[LethAL] > LokeDK, please don't paste
[02:13] <zyga> pragup: and just paste the part about your VGA compatible stuff
[02:13] <zyga> (pastebin paste)
[02:13] <stianj> isn't dri supposed to work with ATI R300 cards on breezy now?
[02:15] <LokeDK> I'm not gonna use pastebin for like 3 lines
[02:15] <Dario_> Hi all. I see gamin (gam_server) is still causing problems (impossible to umount some unused devices). How to permanently kill gam_server ? grep -r "gam_server" /etc/ is empty, so where and when does it get launched ?
[02:16] <dooglus> Dario_: look in the gnome session
[02:16] <dooglus> system->preferences->sessions
[02:16] <Dario_> dooglus: I am using Kubuntu...
[02:16] <Dario_> dooglus: is there a similar setting for KDE ?
[02:16] <dooglus> Dario_: then you're in the wrong channel...
[02:16] <Dario_> oops, sorry :)
[02:16] <dooglus> #kubuntu know about kubuntu
[02:16] <pragup> zyga: lspci -v output http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2915
[02:16] <zyga> Dario_: AFAIK it may be launched by some programs that need its services
[02:16] <Dario_> dooglus: makes sense, thank you :)
[02:18] <dooglus> I downloaded the latest version firefox from the mozilla CVS and built it.  It used 800Mb of disk space - that's huge!
[02:19] <Anchovie> I just installed WINE from the Synaptic, how do I start it?
[02:19] <zyga> pragup: I'm sorry I don't know anything about that card, try googling :/
[02:19] <zyga> Anchovie: run 'wine' on command line
[02:20] <Anchovie> zyga: I'm sorry I'm new to Linux, so I do just type "wine" in the terminal?
[02:21] <zyga> Anchovie: yes, but I really don't know why you want to run wine on its own
[02:21] <hakan> [LethAL] , do you know any graphical tool that edits my LILO conf file ?
[02:21] <grogoreo> hi
[02:21] <ProN00b> Anchovie, its "wine programm.exe"
[02:21] <kent> what is the name of the meta-package which gives me lots of complilers? I forgot it :(
[02:22] <ProN00b> zyga, did you notice how you were Not helping ?
[02:23] <grogoreo> I forgot to mount my home partiton when installing ubuntu. In fstab should I just add   /dev/hda2       /home     ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:24] <zyga> ProN00b: feel free to do a better job
[02:24] <zyga> Anchovie: installing wine should enable you to just click on an .exe file to launch it automatically
[02:24] <ProN00b> i think i did, zyga
[02:24] <fretrunner> hallo
[02:25] <ProN00b> thats better, zyga
[02:25] <str> hello people, i have here breezy preview... once the official release is released, can i easily update it?
[02:25] <Anchovie> zyga: Yeah that's what I did, I installed xwine and wine packages from Synaptic and I thought I'd get an "EXE" like executable but I didn't.
[02:25] <zyga> str: yes, just use update manager or any other tool you use for upgrades
[02:26] <ProN00b> there is xwine on synaptic ?!?!
[02:26] <zyga> Anchovie: did you use wine from the wine repository or the one from the ubuntu repository?
[02:26] <str> great zyga - so that means no need to wait until 13; i can go ahead and just update it as normal
[02:26] <zyga> str: basically - yes
[02:26] <str> there would be no difference at all?
[02:27] <zyga> str: less downloading if you just wait and upgrade after it's released
[02:27] <Anchovie> zyga: The one from Ubuntu repository.
[02:27] <str> as in my preview once updated will be perfectly same as newly installed breezy final?
[02:27] <str> i got the cd already ready here
[02:27] <str> i just want to make sure, i got the greatest scenario :)
[02:27] <zyga> Anchovie: strange, I've got an association with .exe files - are you using gnome or some other desktop environment?
[02:28] <Anchovie> zyga: Yes I'm using GNOME.
[02:28] <zyga> str: yes, you should have got the same thing
[02:28] <ccooke> str: it's possible there will be some small differences, but it's unlikely anything major.
[02:28] <str> ccooke: small difference in what way? this is what i want to make sure...
[02:29] <vladuz976> anybody know how to get japanese input method?
[02:29] <zyga> str: from all those upgrades
[02:29] <zyga> str: maybe leftover files and stuff like that
[02:29] <Anchovie> zyga: What are the exact packages that you installed? xwine and all of its dependencies and wine and all of its dependencies?
[02:30] <searcher`> vladuz976: you can use SCIM for that
[02:30] <hmrocha> hello
[02:30] <zyga> Anchovie: I've got wine and it's dendencies, nothing more
[02:30] <ccooke> str: well, some packages have changed a great deal. Mostly universe or multiverse, but there may be leftover bits and pieces in main.
[02:30] <str> so u guys still recommend to wait?
[02:30] <zyga> str: unless you need breezy now, yes just wait
[02:30] <searcher`> vladuz976: this is the howto i used: http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[02:30] <ccooke> I'm running breezy, but I intend to reinstall when the final release comes out, just in case.
[02:30] <hmrocha> i want to buy a wireless pci card for my mother, what card do you recomend me?
[02:30] <str> how crucial those small stuffs?
[02:30] <vladuz976> searcher`: does that work in breezy
[02:30] <pl_ice> hi a
[02:30] <pl_ice> ya
[02:31] <ccooke> str: breezy is already very stable. if you really want to try it, try it. If not, don't.
[02:31] <chis`> I think my copy of ubuntu is fucked somehow
[02:31] <searcher`> vladuz976: works for hoary (which is what i use)
[02:31] <ProN00b> there is no xwine on apt, is there ?
[02:31] <str> seems like i need to wait
[02:31] <ccooke> ProN00b: yes.
[02:31] <ccooke> ProN00b: there is.
[02:32] <ccooke> ProN00b: In universe.
[02:32] <hjk57> can i change the size of my swap partition without reinstalling?
[02:32] <pl_ice> zyga where u from? :>
[02:33] <zyga> pl_ice: poland
[02:33] <pl_ice> zyga yeh, i though to, nice nick ;)
[02:34] <LaserLine> Should I use GRUB or the NTLOADER ? as mentioned at this website: http://www.aboutdebian.com/dualboot.htm
[02:35] <ProN00b> ccooke, i have universe addes, still i apt-cache search xwine doesn't find anything
[02:35] <ProN00b> *added
[02:35] <zyga> LaserLine: use grub
[02:35] <zyga> LaserLine: that is for really ancient stuff
[02:35] <zyga> (that page)
[02:36] <Sarkie> How do i find out my "group" name?
[02:36] <zyga> Sarkie: groups
[02:37] <zyga> Sarkie: your default group should be identical to your user name
[02:37] <LaserLine> zyga When I use GRUB, does it matter if I change the boot flag for a partition or not in the installation ?
[02:37] <zyga> LaserLine: I don't really know, I'd keep it for the windows partition but I use that rarely now
[02:37] <Sarkie> rhank you zyga
[02:37] <Sarkie> just trying to get mysql to work
[02:37] <Sarkie> not as easy as in windows :S
[02:38] <LaserLine> zyga Should I mark the Ubuntu PArtition as bootable or not ?
[02:38] <zyga> LaserLine: I never did but feel free to do so :)
[02:38] <zyga> LaserLine: I don't really know if grub matters
[02:38] <LaserLine> zyga thansks,
[02:38] <LaserLine> zyga, Thanks*
[02:38] <ouioui> hi
[02:38] <ProN00b> whats the deb-src things in my sources.list ?
[02:39] <zyga> ProN00b: source archives
[02:39] <_david_> hy
[02:39] <ProN00b> what do i need them for ?
[02:39] <zyga> ProN00b: apt-get source
[02:39] <nipplesrulz> help again!
[02:39] <_david_> how can extract exe file (no cab) ?
[02:39] <_david_> how can i extract exe file (no cab) ?
[02:39] <Ed_Gein> anyone use nicotine?
[02:39] <ProN00b> zyga, so instead of getting bins it gets source and compiles it ?
[02:39] <zyga> _david_: if that exe file is a zip file really use unzip
[02:40] <ThePyromaniac> Ed_Gein is that a program or a substance? lol
[02:40] <nipplesrulz> E: Couldn't find package libperl-xml-parser << er huh?
[02:40] <zyga> _david_: if that's a funky exe with something inside you could try wine
[02:40] <ouioui> i have install breezy badger and have some problem with gnome backer
[02:40] <zyga> ProN00b: for getting the source in general, to look at it, patch it, hack it
[02:40] <Ed_Gein> ThePyromaniac : a program( soulseek client)
[02:40] <nipplesrulz> how can i configure my apt-get to use the hoary repositories as backups or something?
[02:40] <zyga> ProN00b: or for building packages from source, yes
[02:41] <ProN00b> zyga, could me not having the deb-src entries uncommented be the reason for not finding xwine ?
[02:41] <nipplesrulz> !tell nipplesrulz about apt-get
[02:41] <_david_> unzip -d works fine thank you
[02:41] <Ed_Gein> what do people use for p2p these days?
[02:41] <ccooke> ProN00b: Ah, must only be in Breezy
[02:41] <ProN00b> damn, k
[02:41] <zyga> ProN00b: no
[02:41] <ProN00b> can't wait for breezy final
[02:42] <Jaivaz> "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5"
[02:42] <Jaivaz> Erm
[02:43] <Jaivaz> I mean, it can't find that
[02:43] <ouioui> someone can help me please
[02:43] <Jaivaz> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[02:43] <ProN00b> Jaivaz, if you got hoary, add deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:43] <Jaivaz> Alright, thanks.
[02:43] <nipplesrulz> zyga,  am i being silly or is all i need to do to make apt-get work off of the web uncomment those lines!
[02:43] <zyga> Jaivaz: there is no such package in ubuntu repos AFAIK
[02:44] <zyga> nipplesrulz: probably :)
[02:44] <elwood> hi all
[02:44] <elwood> i need help with some disassembled code...anyone ?
[02:44] <ouioui> hi is there someone who install breezy
[02:44] <ProN00b> Jaivaz, be carefull to deactivate, or not install the mozilla firefox plugin with it
[02:45] <nipplesrulz> o.O now update does stuff yay!!!!!
[02:45] <zyga> ouioui: yes, probably lots of people, what is your issue
[02:45] <Jaivaz> What will happen if I do?
[02:45] <ouioui> hi zyga i have some problem
[02:45] <ouioui> first i can't use gnome backer
[02:46] <napsy> Has anyone here successfully installed sysprof from source?
[02:46] <nipplesrulz> zyga, where can i paste some stuff in for the current errors without flooding please?
[02:46] <ouioui> and nvidia drivers doesn't load
[02:46] <zyga> ouioui: why, be specific please?
[02:46] <Tiboz> hey all
[02:46] <zyga> nipplesrulz: pastebin, google for url
[02:46] <Tiboz> do you think it is safe to upgrade the pc I just gave to my sister from hoary to breezy (she is a total beginner in linux) ?
[02:47] <zyga> ouioui: check your /var/log/Xorg.log stuff for reasons why they dont work
[02:47] <Tiboz> zyga: pastebin.com for the url ;)
[02:47] <ouioui> ok for gnome backer i can install it and it works but when i click on writ it doesn't work
[02:47] <zyga> ouioui: could you explain a bit about gnomebaker?
[02:48] <nipplesrulz> zyga,  would you mind looking then?
[02:48] <Tiboz> anyone about my question ?
[02:48] <nipplesrulz> Tiboz, if it helps
[02:48] <nipplesrulz> im not very good at linux either
[02:49] <Tiboz> do you think it is safe to upgrade the pc I just gave to my sister from hoary to breezy (she is a total beginner in linux) ?
[02:49] <nipplesrulz> and i was told NOT to get the latest one... but i messed up and well
[02:49] <nipplesrulz> im out of cd-roms XD
[02:49] <ouioui> Xorg doesn't contain anything
[02:49] <Tiboz> ok :)
[02:49] <ouioui> Xorg.log doesn't contain anything
[02:50] <zyga> ouioui: it's empty?
[02:50] <ouioui> yes
[02:50] <ouioui> but glx doesn't load
[02:50] <zyga> ouioui: /var/log/Xorg.0.log is empty?
[02:51] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys, anyone know how to change folder permissions from root to my user, or to 755 without logging in as root?
[02:51] <zyga> nipplesrulz: get rid of backports for the moment
[02:51] <nipplesrulz> in the apt-get conf?
[02:51] <zyga> yes
[02:51] <Tiboz> ThePyromaniac: except with sudo, I don't see how
[02:51] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: sudo  :)
[02:51] <ThePyromaniac> tiboz i dont kow the command do do so
[02:51] <ThePyromaniac> to do so *
[02:52] <ouioui> no it isn't. i make a mistake
[02:52] <ThePyromaniac> i understnad about sudo, i just dont know HOW to change permissions :D
[02:52] <Tiboz> sudo chown myuser myfolder
[02:52] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: chmod
[02:52] <ThePyromaniac> aha thanks
[02:52] <Tiboz> or sudo chmod 755 file
[02:52] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: chown for ownership
[02:52] <Tiboz> depends what you want to do I didn't really understand
[02:53] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: In a terminal use: sudo chown somelogin:somegrp filename  ... similar: sudo chmod 775 filename
[02:53] <nipplesrulz> ok it still cant find the package but im making progress...
[02:53] <Tiboz> nipplesrulz: which package ?
[02:54] <ouioui> what should i see in this file???
[02:54] <ThePyromaniac> mock what do you mean by somelogin:somegrp?
[02:54] <zyga> ouioui: check at the end, it should explain what's going on
[02:54] <Tiboz> ThePyromaniac: user:group
[02:54] <zyga> ouioui: or pastebin that file somewhere
[02:54] <Tiboz> ThePyromaniac: tiboz:users
[02:54] <Tiboz> for example
[02:54] <ThePyromaniac> ok thanks
[02:54] <nipplesrulz> well Tiboz im trying to get obsidian working atm.. so i need something like libperl-xml-parser
[02:55] <Tiboz> you can't apt-get it ?
[02:55] <mock> I need a german thesaurus for Openoffice ... ubuntu does seem to have only en-us or italian ... does anyone know, where to obrain a de thesaurus?
[02:55] <nipplesrulz> but eventually i need to add the hoary lists too so i can apt-get azureus
[02:55] <nipplesrulz> yeah let me see here
[02:55] <zyga> nipplesrulz: don't mix hoary and breezy - chances are it'll break
[02:55] <nipplesrulz> sudo apt-get install libperl-xml-parser <<-- was what i typed exactly
[02:55] <ThePyromaniac> "sudo chown phil ./music/" says its not allowed :(
[02:56] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: somelogin ist the desired username to own the file ... same with somegroup , the desired usergroup the file is owned by
[02:56] <nipplesrulz> so if i need to install azureus zyga  i need to install hoary instead?
[02:56] <GnuKemist> 4
[02:56] <Tiboz> mock: openoffice.org-thesaurus-de is in breezy universe
[02:56] <ThePyromaniac> mock confused :$
[02:57] <mock> @Tiboz: Thy, very much
[02:57] <zyga> nipplesrulz: no
[02:57] <Tiboz> you're welcome
[02:57] <ouioui> ok there is some warning: font but i don't think that's that
[02:57] <zyga> nipplesrulz: wait for breezy's package or package it yourself
[02:57] <ouioui> it seems to load NV driver
[02:57] <nipplesrulz> ah so i can still just get it directly from sourceforge and do a compile or make or some such then ok
[02:58] <ouioui> i think thats ubuntu driver
[02:58] <cius> hello
[02:58] <ssam> is there any reason installing breezy to a compact flash would fail, when hoary installs there ok?
[02:58] <nipplesrulz> how about getting my libperl-xml-parser package?
[02:58] <ouioui> did you install nvidia? can i know how
[02:58] <cius> would anyone know if its possible to use the gnu assembler from teh command line in hoary?  I checked synaptic and its installed, but I can't "locate" it.
[02:58] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Ok, example ... file testfile is now owned by root ... now do a sudo chown ThePyromaniac testfile ... after that you are the owner
[02:58] <ouioui> i make it like in hoary
[02:59] <nipplesrulz> would the package name be the same as the source name?
[02:59] <Tiboz> cius: what do you mean by gnu assembler ?
[02:59] <nipplesrulz> like: XML-Parser-2.34
[02:59] <xalphas> hi guys i've just upgraded to breezy and it looks really great.. is there any userfriendly things for wifi..ipw2200?
[02:59] <nipplesrulz> or the like?
[02:59] <cius> tiboz, binutils, I think its called gas?
[02:59] <Sarkie> can someone help me with mysql please it is not working, here is the code and the error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2921
[02:59] <Tiboz> cius: try as
[03:00] <Tiboz> AS - the portable GNU assembler.
[03:00] <cius> tiboz, thats it!  thanks!
[03:00] <Tiboz> cius: you're welcome
[03:00] <Tiboz> oops
[03:00] <nipplesrulz> oh my gosh
[03:01] <ThePyromaniac> mock that says im not allowed to
[03:01] <nipplesrulz> i just realized that the Makefile.pl was Makefile.PL
[03:01] <nipplesrulz> YAY
[03:01] <Tiboz> mdr
[03:01] <cius> I'm a comp sci student who just made the switch to ubuntu and I'm taking assembly right now, so I had to make sure I have an assembler.
[03:01] <ian_> anybody know why mgetty/vgetty are not included in the baseline ubuntu release?
[03:01] <Ed_Gein> anyone use nicotine?
[03:01] <Sarkie> cius what assembler language tho?
[03:01] <Tiboz> all the smokers ?
[03:02] <Skid> ewww, assemly
[03:02] <Skid> I hated that
[03:02] <cius> Sarkie x86
[03:02] <Ed_Gein> the linux soulseek client(p2p)
[03:02] <Skid> cius: I had to do mips shite, evil.
[03:02] <Sarkie> cius nasm, masm tasm
[03:02] <Skid> Sarkie: for one, I've not seen a query like that before, but what happens if you: mysql -u root -p
[03:02] <Skid> ?
[03:02] <Skid> (then enter the mysql root p/w)
[03:02] <cius> skid, I wouldn't mind learning mips, isn't that what risc is?
[03:03] <ThePyromaniac> i'm just gonna log in as root then disable root logins after
[03:03] <Skid> cius: yeah, and like the old cobalt raq arch
[03:03] <cius> sarkie, would those be prefereable to just as?
[03:03] <Skid> cius: I have debian running off a raq2 heh, shame it's going to be discontinued
[03:03] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Hm ... ok, the user you are logged in has no privileges for system administration ...
[03:03] <Sarkie> cius, but assembler is not just one lang...
[03:03] <hakan> how do I reinstall grub/lilo to find both my ubuntu partition and my windows xp one? right now it starts ubuntu linux directly without any menu!
[03:03] <Sarkie> Skid - Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
[03:03] <cius> skid, wow, I've never even heard of raq...
[03:03] <krisi> how do i install gcc?
[03:04] <Sarkie> apt-get gcc..
[03:04] <Skid> krisi: apt-get install build-essential
[03:04] <ian_> can anybody recommend a decent answering machine package, MVM is ok but I,m looking for something with a more advanced GUI.....
[03:04] <cius> sarkie, hope that doesn't show my lack of age :-)
[03:04] <Sarkie> cius 16?
[03:04] <Skid> Sarkie: do you have any tables in the databse?
[03:04] <Skid> Sarkie: show tables;
[03:04] <cius> sarkie, 22
[03:04] <Sarkie> whats age go to do with it then, just lack of knowledge, nothing to be ashamed of
[03:05] <Sarkie> learn some 16 bit assm first
[03:05] <Sarkie> i know nasm
[03:05] <pl_ice> i need a hand, i got hangover ... :/
[03:05] <cius> sarkie, I can't learn 16 bit first, unless my prof wants to redo her course around it.  ;-)
[03:05] <Sarkie> what you learning?
[03:05] <Sarkie> 32?
[03:05] <ian_> alamak
[03:05] <cius> sarkie, yea
[03:06] <Sarkie> you know what language no?
[03:06] <Sarkie> ERROR 1046: No Database Selected
[03:06] <Sarkie> Skid, not really used mysql before im a Oracle person
[03:07] <cius> sarkie, umm, well, we were uing masm on windows, I thought that was just microsoft assembler though, I figured the structure of the language and all should be the same...I take it I'm wrong.
[03:07] <LaserLine> Hello all, I have File System Questions.... Installing Ubuntu gives a lot of choices, EXT3 is default, you also have XFS, ReiserFS and many more... what should I choose ? Why EXT3 is default, and not ReiserFS and what is the main diffrence between ReiserFS and EXT3, does Ubuntu support Reiser4 ?
[03:07] <cius> man I can't wait for reiser 4, it just sounds cool
[03:07] <Sarkie> well masm is a teaching language to me
[03:07] <Skid> Sarkie: well, i'd install apache + php, then phpmyadmin
[03:07] <Sarkie> its pretty good
[03:08] <Skid> oracle is evil
[03:08] <Sarkie> :(
[03:08] <Skid> they just bought the innodb rights
[03:08] <ThePyromaniac> that didnt work, i still am not allowed to change permissions in root!
[03:08] <Skid> basically going to put mysql out of comercial competition/business
[03:08] <cius> sarkie, so would I need a masm assembler for ubuntu or will as work?
[03:09] <Sarkie> masm assembler dont think itll work, since its not windows 32 bit?
[03:09] <krisi> anyone using cedega on amd64?
[03:09] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Hm ... so you went into user administration and went to the permissions dialog fpr that user?
[03:09] <ThePyromaniac> I made a partition in FAT32 for my /home/phil/media/music and now it wont let me changer permissions
[03:09] <cius> sarkie, dang, that sucks.  I'll have to look into it, maybe my prof will have an easy solution other than dual booting.
[03:10] <Sarkie> wine?
[03:10] <ThePyromaniac> mock oh hell oagain. i right clicked and tried to change group
[03:10] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Ahhh I see! Tell that at first!
[03:10] <ThePyromaniac> mock, chuckle
[03:10] <LaserLine> Anyone could help me with File Systems ?
[03:10] <cius> sarkie, I could go wine...
[03:10] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: FAT32 does not know about users, owners and permissions at all ...
[03:10] <Sarkie> ;)
[03:10] <derFlo> hi. I have a ipw2200 wlan card. Haw can I change it's name from eth1 to wlan0 ?
[03:10] <Sarkie> just wondering will it assemble in linux
[03:10] <ThePyromaniac> mock oh right, of course. so how do i edit?
[03:11] <Sarkie> cius pm
[03:11] <cius> sarkie, could give it a try
[03:11] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: The owner grou and permissions are all fixed to defaults ... you can set them with options when you mount the partition
[03:11] <ThePyromaniac> mock, how? ^-^
[03:11] <N6REJ> can someone help explain to me the best configuration for apache2.conf when there will be more then one webmaster?
[03:12] <LaserLine> Guys, I have a Filesystem question, could anyone help me ?
[03:12] <hakan> sorry guys, I desperately need your help.   how do I reinstall grub/lilo to find both my ubuntu partition and my windows xp one? right now it starts ubuntu linux directly without any menu!
[03:12] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: I think that depends on how the mount happens ... I tell you the console way to mount the fat-drive ...
[03:12] <inuyasha> current problem: apparently i have no make command?
[03:12] <pl_ice> LaserLine what's the problem?
[03:12] <Sarkie> Skid right I have phpmyadmin
[03:13] <Skid> localhost/phpmyadmin
[03:13] <Skid> it's basically a gui for mysql :)
[03:13] <nipplesrulz> bash: make: command not found  <<-= is that something i need to install?
[03:13] <ThePyromaniac> need build-essentials methinks
[03:13] <Sarkie> nice
[03:13] <Skid> nipplesrulz: apt-get install build-essential
[03:14] <dan> join #moin
[03:14] <pl_ice> nipplesrulz u missing gcc complier
[03:14] <nipplesrulz> ah thankyou
[03:14] <LaserLine> pl_ice, I want to know the diffrence between ReiserFS and EXT3, as of me having lots of INODE problems with my laptop and only ReiserFS solved them...
[03:14] <LaserLine> I'm going to install Ubuntu 5.10 (clean) and Dual Boot with XP on my Desktop. I don't know if I should go with EXT3, or maybe ReiserFS or even JFS or XFS...
[03:14] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: ... wait ... have to check out exactly
[03:14] <mahangu> how do i kill a package?
[03:14] <mahangu> apt-get purge?
[03:14] <nipplesrulz> out of curiosity why would that not just be in there?
[03:14] <Skid> kill ?
[03:14] <mahangu> i just got slashcode and wanna kill it now
[03:14] <ThePyromaniac> mock im waiting, was telling nipplesrulz an answer, not answering myself :D
[03:14] <mahangu> Skid, i mean purge from system
[03:15] <Skid> apt-get remove <pkg>
[03:15] <nipplesrulz> mahangu, do you want to keep the config files?
[03:15] <Skid> apt-get remove --purge <pkg> removes configs
[03:15] <mahangu> nipplesrulz, nope
[03:15] <nipplesrulz> :P
[03:15] <mahangu> slashcode is ass at installing
[03:15] <mahangu> farmer love
[03:15] <Skid> brb.
[03:15] <Shambler> has the usplash changed? ive heard that it looks different now to the brownish thing?
[03:16] <LaserLine> pl_ice, could you help ?
[03:16] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: mount -o uid=user,gid=group,umask=permissions,dmask=directorypermissions -tvfat /dev/hda2 /mnt
[03:16] <pl_ice> LaserLine hm, google it, ext3 is pretty good now, heaps improvement form ext2, but resizer got different file storage, i.e. indexing and that's matters when u loose ur info, etc
[03:17] <ThePyromaniac> so... uid=phil gid and permissions = what?
[03:17] <LaserLine> pl_ice, I'm googling like hell sience last afternoon, and I can't decide....
[03:17] <pl_ice> LaserLine i can find out, but it's a large topic, ur'e looking for something special toto sork with fs?
[03:17] <Shin_Gouki> hi , i added a hard disk to my ubuntu system ...its a fat32 or fat harddisk, how do i mount it?
[03:17] <Shin_Gouki> hi ,which shell commands lits me ALL IDE devices?
[03:17] <LaserLine> pl_ice, It's going to be a desktop. but I'm not trusting EXT3 that much any more :-(
[03:18] <LaserLine> pl_ice, I had to Reinstall Ubuntu 3 times on my laptop after Lowlevel formatting it twice, and always getting INODE errors and stuff that FSCK didn't fix.
[03:18] <N6REJ> I'm trying to get apache2 configured properly and I'm not sure if I should leave the user/group as www-data or not.  I'm not used to it being anything but nobody.
[03:18] <ThePyromaniac> mock sorry i am still n00bish in some respects
[03:18] <LaserLine> pl_ice, With ReiserFS I'm not getting that, but thisi is a whole diffrent system, So I'm not sure what way to go...
[03:18] <Hendric> hi.. just updated all 400+ packages for 2 hours... how can i copy those packages for future use???
[03:18] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: For ubuntu gid whould be phil too ... permissions depends on what you want to allow ... 777 would allow anything with any file ... 775 would be typical 750 would be very restrictiv, only Phil could do much on that drive
[03:19] <pl_ice> LaserLine not sure then, how old is the laptop?
[03:19] <Mon> anyone here succesfully uses cups browsing over network?
[03:19] <ian_> hey....
[03:19] <Mon> Hendric: for what use? there will probably be new packages next week
[03:19] <ian_> its my girlfriends birthday...
[03:19] <ThePyromaniac> mock ok well as i am planning to share with samba for my iwndows network i suppose 777 is best. is that for both u mask and dmask?
[03:20] <Hendric> Mon, at least.. i won't be downloading them again... incase i'll reinstall.. even if some will be update.. but not all for sure
[03:20] <LaserLine> pl_ice The laptop is quite old, It's a Fujitsu Siemens S-4546 (256MB RAM, P3-=600Mhz with Toshiba 4200RPM drive)
[03:20] <Hendric> *updated
[03:20] <ian_> yeah...
[03:20] <ian_> 25!
[03:20] <Mon> Hendric: they're in /var/cache/apt/archives if you want to burn them or something
[03:20] <ian_> Dust?
[03:20] <billgates2> how would i make it automaticly login
[03:20] <ian_> anybody?
[03:20] <ian_> no...?
[03:20] <ian_> Dust?
[03:20] <[LethAL] > No, no dust
[03:20] <LaserLine> pl_ice Now I want to install Breezy (when it's coming out) and Dual boot it with XP on my Desktop - AthlonXP 2700+ 1GB Ram Asus A7N8X Delux Mobo, and ATI Radeon 9500PRO
[03:20] <ian_> I am in the only gay in the village.
[03:20] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Yes, that would be both for umask and dmask ...
[03:20] <ThePyromaniac> mock thanks
[03:21] <Hendric> Mon, i wanna burn them.. many thanks Mon...
[03:21] <Mon> billgates2: System, Managment, settings for loginscreen (or something similar)
[03:21] <pl_ice> LaserLine can u pull out some info abut the hdd ? compay type etc
[03:21] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: ... unless you want there to be a difference ;)
[03:21] <billgates2> cherrs, mon
[03:21] <coolerguy> the ubuntu installer keeps giving me an error on install...
[03:21] <coolerguy> "the installer cannot figure out how to install Ubuntu. No installable CD-ROM was found and no valid mirror was configured"
[03:21] <Mon> Hendric: happy burning :)
[03:21] <Shin_Gouki> hi ,which shell commands lits me ALL IDE devices?
[03:21] <ThePyromaniac> mock wouldnt know what the difference is! lol
[03:21] <chris123> hi everybody, what was that command aghain to get info about w32codecs & java?
[03:21] <Mon> !tell Shin_Gouki about mount
[03:22] <[LethAL] > !tell chris123 about w32codecs
[03:22] <chris123> !tell w32codecs
[03:22] <N6REJ> Laserline: I just successfully installed breezy on a p2-350 with 384, so your machine should be fine.  Better have a good look at that harddrive... I'm using ext3 on a wd 40g hd.  I had to use the "daily" snapshot of oct 07 though to get a good build.  Don't use the link off the main page.
[03:22] <[LethAL] > !tell chris123 about java
[03:22] <chris123> thx :)
[03:22] <[LethAL] > !tell chris123 about javadeb
[03:22] <Shin_Gouki> Mon, its not only mount, but i want to list ALSO my IDE devices.. is there a command?
[03:22] <chris123> !tell about java
[03:22] <chris123> !tell about javadeb
[03:22] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Hehe ... you'll learn them some day ... if you don't, you don't need to learn that ;)
[03:22] <limaunion> hi, having a couple of issues after upgrading to Breezy, the most important is that gnome won't start, it just get stuck during in the splash screen without displaying any icon, now I'm running fluxbox, any ideas ?
[03:22] <[LethAL] > chris123, I did them for you, read ubotu's PM
[03:22] <Mon> Shin_Gouki: ls /dev/h* or something?
[03:23] <Shin_Gouki> thx!
[03:23] <N6REJ> !tell about apache2
[03:23] <pl_ice> LaserLine it would be easier to find out why that error pops out ... identyfiying it...
[03:23] <LaserLine> pl_ice, The laptop's drive is this:  MK1016GAP the link is http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/storage/english/spec/hdd/mk1016.htm
[03:23] <Mon> Shin_Gouki: there's something like "device management" under the System, Management menu's too if you like GUI's :)
[03:23] <N6REJ> !tell about apache
[03:23] <ThePyromaniac> mock hmm... i ran "sudo mount -o uid=phil,gid=phil,umask=777,dmask=777 -tvfat /dev/sda5 /home/phil/media/music" now i cant even read it!
[03:23] <[LethAL] > N6REJ, it doesn't work like that
[03:23] <Hendric> Mon, can you teach me samba? i can't seem to make it work.. asks me for password...
[03:23] <LaserLine> pl_ice, my Desktop's drive is Maxtor DiamondMax9 UDMA133 2MB Buffer 7200RPM
[03:23] <st1lgar> Shin_Gouki: you might also want to take a look at /proc and /sys
[03:23] <ciplogic> To Ubuntu recognize my network card I must write that commands: cd /lib \n modprobe 3c509 . My question is: where I should edit one script to make that network card to be recognised?
[03:24] <Shin_Gouki> thx so far !
[03:24] <Hendric> Mon, i want it to act like the windows network neighborhood... hassle free
[03:24] <ciplogic> For instannce on start of boot
[03:24] <N6REJ> lethal: so I see :(  I'm trying to assertain the best way to set up apache2.conf as I will likely have 6 people putting files on the website.
[03:24] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Ooops ... but you are logged in as phil?
[03:24] <Mon> Hendric: right click on the folder you want to share and choose Share Folder (should work i think)
[03:24] <ThePyromaniac> mock yes
[03:24] <LaserLine> N6REJ I managed to Install and everything, but after a few days, even after I shut it off completley and the FS is clean, when I boot it I recieve HORROR errors and must use FSCK from the LiveCD... even tried BAD SECTOR scans and Smart checks.
[03:25] <Hendric> Mon, i tried that.. my other ubuntu system can't browse it.. it asks for a password.. i dunno how to remove it
[03:25] <Mon> Hendric: though you can use Network in Places to find you Windows box too
[03:25] <N6REJ> LaserLine: don't use LIVE, use install
[03:25] <[LethAL] > !tell N6REJ about lamp
[03:25] <Mon> Hendric: should be your password
[03:25] <LaserLine> N6REJ There is 1 SMART Failure that reports, after running from the LIVECD, but ReiserFS seems to manage to cope with it...
[03:25] <LaserLine> pl_ice, Any Idea ?
[03:25] <Hendric> Mon, absolutely not my password.
[03:26] <pl_ice> give us a sec, will look for it
[03:26] <ciplogic> To Ubuntu recognize my network card I must write that commands: cd /lib \n modprobe 3c509 . My question is: where I should edit one script to make that network card to be recognised?
[03:26] <krisi> how do i set an env variable?
[03:26] <whyameye> krisi: export
[03:26] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Hm ... shit, I remember ... I told you nonsense about the permissions ... they tell what is not allowed ... yo you have to use 000 in both cases
[03:26] <N6REJ> LaserLine: thats never good.  try getting the software from the drive manufacturer, and reconditioning the drive, but you should plan on replacing it asap... notebook drives are fairly cheap now for small ones.
[03:26] <____heinz> hi
[03:26] <Hendric> can anyone here help me with samba to make it act like the usual windows network neighborhood (no auth, no hassle, just click and browse)...
[03:26] <ThePyromaniac> mock ok, weird cause when i mounted it i used umask and did that
[03:26] <Mon> Hendric: well i'm not very familiar with the whole smb.conf stuff. did it once but i kinda forgot. should be a howto on the wiki or forum though
[03:26] <coolerguy> there seems to be some sort of problem with my ubuntu installer...
[03:26] <ThePyromaniac> perhaps i need to change in fstab
[03:26] <coolerguy> when i try and install it, i get an error
[03:26] <LaserLine> N6REJ yeah, I know :-)
[03:27] <____heinz> how can i mount a nfs share everytime i  log in
[03:27] <____heinz> ?
[03:27] <Hendric> Mon, i tried following every wiki and forums.. but seems not the way i want it to be
[03:27] <Hobbsee> why are you grabbing the hoary one?
[03:27] <coolerguy> "The installer cannot figure out how to install Ubuntu. No installable CD-ROM was found and no valid mirror was configured
[03:27] <coolerguy> "
[03:27] <nipplesrulz> b/c
[03:27] <nipplesrulz> i cant seem to even get simple packages in this one
[03:27] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Yes, you should change your fstab accordingly ... you don't want it to do the console way ;)
[03:27] <digis___> ?
[03:27] <nipplesrulz> it seems just fine mostly
[03:27] <nipplesrulz> but i need some xml parser to get it working right
[03:27] <ciplogic> To Ubuntu recognize my network card I must write that commands: cd /lib \n modprobe 3c509 . My question is: where I should edit one script to make that network card to be recognised? (sorry for buzz)
[03:27] <ThePyromaniac> mock i have forgotten the syntax for adding umask into fstab
[03:27] <nipplesrulz> and i get uuber errors on the make
[03:27] <N6REJ> [LethAL] : thats what I was following.... this is the part that has me confused... .earch both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using. Then you'll need to restart Apache. (look at the next chapter concerning apache commands)
[03:28] <ThePyromaniac> isnt it default,umask=000
[03:28] <nipplesrulz> so i figured i wuold just go down a notch and hope its in those packages for the apt-get
[03:28] <[LethAL] > N6REJ, bear in mind that I haven't ever setup httpd properly
[03:28] <LaserLine> N6REJ Why should I choose XFS, or JFS ? why aren't they good ? Why did Ubuntu choose EXT3 as default ? and Suse chose ReiserFS ? I'm reading the Doc's of every FS, and even the WIKIPEDIA, but I  can't decide what's better... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[03:28] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[03:28] <whyameye> Henric: have you looked at your settings in /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[03:28] <scoon> LaserLine, ext3 has been around forever and is extremely stable.
[03:29] <Hendric> whyameye, i did.. i tried every suggestion from wikis and forums.. but doesn't work eighter
[03:29] <cius> hendric, I'm in the same boat, but I haven't really looked itno it yet
[03:29] <Hendric> whyameye, i did.. i tried every suggestion from wikis and forums.. but doesn't work either
[03:29] <Guest383004>  <> www.onlinebanditbrasil.com <> <<< Jogos Multiplayer: Tetris, Gamo, Puzzle, Yatzy
[03:29] <N6REJ> LaserLine: I think each has there merits.... some are sudo raids.. .I think its like coffee you choose the one you like, but I don't know.  I use whatever one works at the time.
[03:29] <Mon> Hendric: check private conversation
[03:30] <chris123> is there any source I can put in sources.list for getting java? i'd like having updates when existing...
[03:30] <LaserLine> pl_ice What FS do you use ??
[03:30] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: The line should look like: /dev/sda5     /home/phil/media/music      uid=phil,gid=phil,umask=000,dmask=000    0    2
[03:30] <whyameye> Hendric: sorry. I doubt I know enough to help you then.
[03:30] <N6REJ> [LethAL] : ok, I'm going to get this silly thing working 100% and then I'll know whats what.... although its similiar to RH and Mandrake, its very different too.
[03:30] <[LethAL] > lol
[03:30] <N6REJ> [LethAL] : and apache2 is WAY DIFFERNT then old fashioned apache.
[03:30] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Wrong ... dev/sda5     /home/phil/media/music      vfat      uid=phil,gid=phil,umask=000,dmask=000    0    2
[03:31] <Hendric> Mon, should i PM u?
[03:31] <Mon> Hendric: i already sent something to you :) check bottom of the screen
[03:32] <pl_ice> LaserLine file system
[03:32] <LaserLine> pl_ice Yeah, what File System do you use ? :-)
[03:32] <Shin_Gouki> hi which shell commands lists me my CURRENT, full path in the directory tree?
[03:33] <LaserLine> pl_ice, did the Info about my HardDrives helped you ?
[03:33] <Shin_Gouki> pl_ice, wwow were issuch filesystem used..?
[03:33] <pl_ice> LaserLine did u save those errors? can't find any info, not sure if other users had problems
[03:34] <ThePyromaniac> kickass! thanks mock
[03:34] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Have some fun with it ;)
[03:34] <ciplogic> To Ubuntu recognize my network card I must write that commands: cd /lib \n modprobe 3c509 . My question is: where I should edit one script to make that network card to be recognised?
[03:34] <LaserLine> pl_ice These errors were INODE errors on files, usually in the Kernel Directory with the Sound Modules.
[03:34] <LaserLine> but not just that...
[03:35] <ACEa> which is the official libqt3 version in breezy ?
[03:35] <Mon> ciplogic: just modprobe 3c509 should do. and ubuntu should also load it automaticly...
[03:35] <ciplogic> every time?
[03:35] <ciplogic> Nope... it doesn't
[03:35] <Mon> ciplogic: put "3c509" in /etc/modules without the quotes. then it will be loaded on boot
[03:35] <ciplogic> thank you a lot Mon
[03:35] <slew> help!! last night my screen resolution was 1280x960, today its 640x480 and it wont let me change it! how do i fix this?!?
[03:36] <Hendric> slew, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:36] <krisi> can i install csh in unbuntu?
[03:36] <Blissex> !windows
[03:36] <ubotu> methinks windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[03:36] <co0kie> how do you change the resolution for the login-screen?
[03:36] <Blissex> !windows partitions
[03:36] <Chousuke> krisi: yes.
[03:36] <ubotu> Blissex: I don't know
[03:36] <Blissex> !partitions
[03:36] <ubotu> Blissex: I give up, what is it?
[03:36] <krisi> Chousuke, how?
[03:36] <[LethAL] > co0kie, It's the max res in xorg.conf
[03:37] <Blissex> whats the factoid about the MS Windows partition script?
[03:37] <Chousuke> krisi: enable universe, then apt-get install them
[03:37] <co0kie> lethal: ok, i'll check it out ;)
[03:37] <[LethAL] > !tell Blissex about windowsdrives
[03:38] <Enlite> i cannot believe the amount of out-of-the-box support ubuntu has..
[03:38] <co0kie> where is the xorg.conf located ?
[03:38] <Mon> co0kie: "locate xorg.conf"
[03:38] <Enlite> dell laptop.. bluetooth, video, sound, nic... ga'daaaamn
[03:38] <speel> co0kie, should be in /etc/X11
[03:38] <windex> Enlite, commerical hardware vendors rarely ship linux drivers with hardware. there is no choice. :)
[03:38] <LaserLine> pl_ice I /msged you
[03:38] <Jalexster> Hello, I recently set up an old x86 box (800Mhz PIII) with Ubuntu. I'm trying to install the latest official nVidia Linux Drivers.
[03:39] <Hendric> Anyone here experienced the mysterious synaptic "failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as root: child process terminated with 100 status" error???
[03:39] <krisi> Chousuke, how do you enable universe?
[03:39] <Chousuke> !repositories
[03:39] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[03:39] <Enlite> im very impressed with ubuntu :)
[03:39] <Jalexster> I can get to a command line, and kill X, but I need to be logged into root to install. Using sudo doesn't work.
[03:39] <pl_ice> Enlite many people aren't ...
[03:39] <Chousuke> Jalexster: sudo -i
[03:39] <Chousuke> gives you root shell
[03:39] <speel> breezy = whoa lol
[03:39] <Jalexster> Thanks
[03:40] <Enlite> whys that
[03:40] <[LethAL] > Breezy == "da bomb"
[03:40] <Chousuke> speel: "whoa lol"? :D
[03:40] <Hendric> breezy + latest 478 update = OMG!!!
[03:40] <speel> well what i love is the "add applications" feature
[03:40] <[LethAL] > "da bomb" is in the English dictionary... :)
[03:40] <Chousuke> speel: that's just a cute frontend to APT
[03:41] <Chousuke> speel: it shows only a fraction of the packages available
[03:41] <co0kie> ok located xorg.conf, should I then remove all the "1280x1024" ?
[03:41] <ThePyromaniac> zyga you knwo that "find -name 'desktop.ini' -o -name 'Thumb.db' -o -name 'Folder.jpg' -o -name 'AlbumArt*'| xargs rm -" thing you mentioned?
[03:41] <speel> very true :) but its great .. i just wished that they would use all the packages on there
[03:41] <vdrab> hi #ubuntu. anyone have any clue what could be wrong with my skype install? installed according to the directions at ubuntuguide.org, program works fine, get all my contacts but cannot call any of them. the "call contact" tab just freezes...
[03:41] <speel> but the spca5xx driver is broken :(
[03:41] <speel> ( webcam driver )
[03:42] <Hendric> speel, that's wat im trying to work right now.. ehehe
[03:42] <Hendric> speel, freezes when starting d cam.. dunno why
[03:42] <speel> yea
[03:42] <speel> i found a fix tho
[03:42] <speel> want it?
[03:42] <Hendric> wow.. share it pls
[03:42] <speel> kk
[03:42] <slew> THANK YOU! to whoever helped me with the screen resolution!!
[03:43] <vdrab> anyone heard of a similar problem...?
[03:43] <Hendric> slew, my pleasure
[03:43] <ThePyromaniac> anyone good with command line stuff? i have a good search and destroy command by zyga but i have a problem with it
[03:43] <ThePyromaniac> find -name 'desktop.ini' -o -name 'Thumb.db' -o -name 'Folder.jpg' -o -name 'AlbumArt*'| xargs rm -
[03:43] <slew> [now its almost TOO good!]  oops dont want to jinx it!
[03:43] <Mon> vdrab: you could try to start skype from a terminal and see if ther's anything usefull
[03:43] <krisi> does anyone know if a program called magic is in universe or multiverse?
[03:43] <ndlovu> hi all. any idea what the following error could mean? "cannot stat `sources.list': Input/output error"
[03:43] <ThePyromaniac> it cant handle folders. it sees foler spaces as seperate folders
[03:43] <speel> crap give me a sec lol
[03:43] <Mon> vdrab: but remember skype isn't supported by ubuntu so you're pretty much on your own unfortunatly
[03:43] <BurgerMann> is it possible to kill all processes of a specific user?
[03:43] <SigMA> << exit
[03:43] <ndlovu> if I try to ls /etc/apt, it doesn't show sources.list
[03:44] <vdrab> Mon: yes, I know... but a fair lot of people seem to manage
[03:44] <ndlovu> but if I try to move it, it gives the I/O error
[03:44] <Mon> vdrab: it has worked here too but i'm not very familiar with it
[03:44] <Jalexster> Ok, I'm having some more trouble with installing my nVidia drivers
[03:44] <speel> Hendric, ok here you go http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=383244&postcount=21
[03:45] <Jalexster> It needs to compile a kernel interface for my kernel, because it couldn't find a precompiled one from the nVidia FTP site.
[03:45] <Hendric> thanks speel ... firing up firefox
[03:45] <[LethAL] > Jalexster, use the Ubuntu nvidia-glx package
[03:45] <speel> np :)
[03:45] <vdrab> Mon: i'd hate to have to set up an extra OS just for skype... that'd be so stupid
[03:45] <Jalexster> Thanks
[03:45] <speel> hopefully thell fix it before breezy comes out
[03:45] <Jalexster> Is that the latest version of the nVidia drivers?
[03:45] <[LethAL] > Jalexster, I'm not sure, but I'm not too botered ;)
[03:46] <Mon> vdrab: yeah it would be :) try starting it from a terminal
[03:46] <[LethAL] > bothered*
[03:46] <Hendric> Jalexster, not the latest but the best for ubuntu...
[03:46] <Jalexster> All I need to install the ones I'm trying to install, is to install the kernel source tree
[03:46] <vdrab> Mon: trying now
[03:46] <[LethAL] > !info nvidia-glx
[03:46] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7174-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2980 kB, Installed size: 9752 kB
[03:46] <[LethAL] > 71.73
[03:46] <[LethAL] > 74*
[03:46] <Jalexster> This is 7676
[03:46] <[LethAL] > What difference does it make eh?
[03:47] <Jalexster> Well, I'd like to install the latest version
[03:47] <ACEa> is it possible to repack a deb package and change the dependecies ?
[03:47] <Hendric> Jalexster, 7667 for breezy
[03:47] <pl_ice> guys, if one gets inode errors, and after switching acpi off, would it make a difference which fs i use?
[03:47] <Troels> Ello.
[03:47] <BurgerMann> Daw
[03:47] <Mon> pl_ice: i'd do a fsck at first
[03:48] <Jalexster> I'd personally like to try and get these ones installed. How do I install the kernel source tree, so it can compile a kernel interface from it?
[03:48] <N6REJ> anyone know the apt-get command for mod_dav?
[03:48] <ThePyromaniac> anyone know a command line that will do an action in each foler it finds?
[03:48] <vdrab> Mon: says nothing whatsoever.... like i said, the program itself runs just fine... it just freezes whenever i try to make a call... try and debug that ... :-s
[03:48] <BurgerMann> N6REJ: you could use aptitude and search for it ;)
[03:49] <ray8685484883332> hi there ppl. could someone please give me a link to download 'easy ubuntu 2.2" - the one for Hoary - many thanks,
[03:49] <Mon> vdrab: you could try "strace skype" but i'd doubt if it would help
[03:49] <pl_ice> Mon yeh, but it' ok under reiser buggers on ext3
[03:49] <Troels> I have a drive for burning CDs in my computer.
[03:49] <N6REJ> BurgerMann: great, I'll try that.
[03:49] <Troels> How do I burn with Ubuntu?
[03:49] <Jalexster> Ah, I'll just install the package instead
[03:49] <Mon> pl_ice: eh what?
[03:49] <vdrab> Mon: lessee... thanks for the help though... trying now
[03:49] <Jalexster> Thanks for your help anyway
[03:49] <[LethAL] > Troels, same way as in XP
[03:49] <[LethAL] > Well, roughly
[03:49] <Mon> Troels: burn what exactly?
[03:49] <Troels> A cd.
[03:49] <Mon> with?
[03:49] <Troels> Like "Beatles - Greatest hits".
[03:49] <Troels> Not ISOs.
[03:50] <ray8685484883332> hi there ppl. could someone please give me a link to download 'easy ubuntu 2.2" - the one for Hoary - anyone?
[03:50] <Mon> ah an audio cd
[03:50] <pl_ice> Mon errors pop out inode, on old laptop with reiser but when u re install with ext3 it's ok
[03:50] <Troels> Mon: Aye.
[03:50] <[LethAL] > Serpentine is nice apparently
[03:50] <krisi> what is multiverse?
[03:50] <Mon> Troels: breezy or hoary?
[03:50] <Mon> Troels: i'd recommend serpentine too, k3b otherwise
[03:50] <Troels> 5.04.
[03:50] <Hobbsee> ray8685484883332: ubuntuforums.org, search function
[03:51] <Troels> Mon: I have 5.04... breezy or hoary? I know it's two different stages, but which exactly I have...
[03:51] <Hobbsee> it's towards the top of the howto guides
[03:51] <Troels> Mon: I guess it's hoary.
[03:51] <vdrab> Mon: just spits a whole lot of code at me, but no discernable error messages...
[03:51] <[LethAL] > Troels, correct :)
[03:51] <Chousuke> Troels: Breezy is 5.10
[03:51] <ray8685484883332> i did search the forums, but the link for the 2,2 (hoary) version is in french. my french is rubbish
[03:51] <Troels> Mon: ;)
[03:51] <Troels> Mon: Okay, you said serpentine?
[03:51] <Mon> Troels: i think serpentine is available for Hoary as well
[03:51] <Troels> I just write sudo apt-get install serpentine?
[03:51] <Mon> jup
[03:52] <[LethAL] > !info serpentine
[03:52] <Troels> Great!
[03:52] <Troels> What?
[03:52] <Mon> [LethAL] : hm universe?
[03:52] <[LethAL] > Ouch
[03:52] <[LethAL] > [ 14:52:02 ]  [ ubotu ]  Package 'serpentine' does not exist.
[03:52] <Mon> supported first in breezy, not hoary i think
[03:52] <Troels> Hm...
[03:52] <Troels> couldn't find package.
[03:52] <Mon> Troels: you know about the repository stuff?
[03:52] <Troels> No, sorry.
[03:52] <Troels> My English isn't that good.
[03:53] <Mon> !tell Troels about repository
[03:53] <Troels> I dunno what repository means.
[03:53] <[LethAL] > Troels, what's your native language?
[03:53] <Troels> Danish.
[03:53] <Mon>  what was is :)
[03:53] <Mon> *it
[03:53] <Troels> Hm, Mon.
[03:53] <Shin_Gouki> hello
[03:53] <Hobbsee> ray8685484883332: really?  there should have been one in english there
[03:53] <Troels> You asked it to open a channel or something, but it didn't.
[03:53] <Mon> [LethAL] : tell'm about repositories
[03:53] <Shin_Gouki> who here uses icewm and is willing to paste the content of his "toolbar" file for me? i need it!
[03:54] <Mon> vdrab: you use Breezy?
[03:54] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki hm, but u'll have to w't i got to boot my laptop...
[03:54] <Hobbsee> ray8685484883332: looks like english to me - it's at the top of the howtos http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646
[03:54] <Savant> is there a terminal command to merge text files?
[03:54] <vdrab> no, hoary
[03:54] <zyga> Savant: cat
[03:54] <Mon> Savant: cat file1 file2 > file3
[03:54] <zyga> Savant: cat all the files you want to a new file
[03:54] <vdrab> Mon: no, hoary. you think switching would make a difference?
[03:55] <zyga> Savant: dont cat into existing files, it wont work the way you need/expect
[03:55] <Mon> vdrab: i never tried on breezy, worked for me on hoary
[03:55] <Mon> vdrab: tried google? i'm out of ideas..
[03:55] <Troels> Mon: Do I have to download something? It can't find the package.
[03:55] <vdrab> Mon: yeah, i spent a few hours sniffing google
[03:55] <Mon> !tell Troels about repositories
[03:55] <Mon> what was it...
[03:55] <Troels> Thanks, mate
[03:55] <vdrab> Mon: thanks for your time though
[03:55] <Mon> Troels: do that :)
[03:56] <Mon> vdrab: np
[03:56] <co0kie> how do you mount a NTFS partition? So that other users, than root can access it?
[03:56] <Shin_Gouki> pl_ice, i have time :)
[03:56] <Shin_Gouki> pl_ice, just dont forget it then its fine with me :)
[03:56] <Mon> vdrab: you could always try to upgrade to breezy since it will be released soon but i can't say if it'd help
[03:56] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki get me full path for that tile
[03:57] <Mon> vdrab: oh btw... maybe "killall esd" could help if skype needs it
[03:57] <vdrab> Mon: no, obviously... you know if there's a sort of "smart upgrade", or is it a full new install?
[03:57] <Mon> !tell co0kie about windowsdrives
[03:57] <vdrab> Mon: ok, let's try that first
[03:57] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki full path for that file? i don't often use icewm, only console in it ;/
[03:58] <kbrooks> vdrab: you can upgrade to breezy
[03:58] <Mon> vdrab: change sources.list all "hoary"'s into "breezy". apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade basicly
[03:58] <N6REJ> how do I search with aptitude?
[03:58] <_david_> i have a question to a script ?
[03:58] <_david_> #!/bin/bash
[03:58] <_david_> cd /home/david/ut2004
[03:58] <_david_> cedega Setup.exe sleep cp /home/david/ut2004/updates/3355/* /home/david/games/ut2004 sleep /home/david/ut2004/bonus/ucmp2/* /home/david/games/ut2004
[03:58] <_david_> what is wrong?
[03:58] <vdrab> nice, thanks all
[03:59] <Chousuke> _david_: You can't put commands in a series like that
[03:59] <Chousuke> you need ;
[03:59] <Savant> ok, and is there something to strip repeated entries out of the file? (ex. 12345 is line 1, line 4, and line 7.  It will delete line 4, and line 7.)
[03:59] <Chousuke> Savant: uniq
[03:59] <Savant> doesn't seem to be working
[04:00] <Savant> uniq merged > done
[04:00] <Chousuke> hmm.
[04:00] <Enlite> i need to rebuild a redhat box to ubuntu, but i dont have access to the room the server is in :( any possible way to do some kind of automated install that will blow away the current system and install ubuntu ?
[04:00] <thompa> i got a problemsince installing kde I think
[04:00] <Savant> but I found repeated entries in done, and their sizes are the same
[04:00] <rawiramdhan> I set up my samba server, but when I try to connect from a windows I fill in my username en pw but nothing happends:S
[04:00] <thompa> im on gnome
[04:00] <Chousuke> Ah, the file needs to be sorted
[04:00] <Savant> erm....that could be a small problem.
[04:01] <Savant> want to retain the order, if possible
[04:01] <Mon> vdrab: it seems skype won't install on Breezy because of deps. wouldn't recommend upgrading yet
[04:01] <Chousuke> Savant: HM :/
[04:01] <Savant> if I must, I'll sort....
[04:01] <Troels> Mon: Okay, mate, I did as it said...
[04:01] <Chousuke> Then It'll be more troublesome.
[04:01] <Mon> Savant: first sort then uniq iirc
[04:01] <thompa> anybody: i got some starnge white window on exit
[04:01] <antisocialboris> how do i set up wine?
[04:01] <Gabriel> It is possible to install another linux distribution in a chroot? If possible, where can I find a howto/guide to do so?
[04:01] <Mon> Troels: apt-get update and try to install again
[04:01] <Savant> ok
[04:01] <Troels> ;)
[04:01] <Hobbsee> !tell antisocialboris about wine
[04:01] <co0kie> #sudo mount -ntfs /dev/hda1 /myDrive ... How can I make it accessable for other users?
[04:02] <Mon> Gabriel: i think gentoo had a nice tutorial about that
[04:02] <thompa> my log out window now has the text but no buttons
[04:02] <Savant> sort syntax would be "sort merged > done"?
[04:02] <Gabriel> Mon, ok let me check that, thanks
[04:02] <rawiramdhan> I set up my samba server, but when I try to connect from a windows I fill in my username en pw but nothing happends:S
[04:02] <Mon> Savant: think so
[04:02] <vdrab> Mon: oh... btw, the reloading esd didn't seem to make a difference either
[04:02] <Mon> vdrab: not reloading, kiling it so your soundcard is available to skype
[04:03] <Hobbsee> co0kie: it's not already accessible for other users on the same machine?
[04:03] <pl_ice> co0kie u need to mount w/o root privilages, couse if u suse sudo only root will have access to that folder, ie ur drive
[04:03] <Jaivaz> Will resizing my partitions with Gparted affect any files on the partitions?
[04:03] <_david_> do you have an example for me? chousuke
[04:03] <thompa> anybody who can help me with gdk or kdm??
[04:03] <theine> Hi, what the difference between specifying `HIBERNATE_MODE=shutdown' and `HIBERNATE_MODE=platform' in /etc/default/acpi-support ?
[04:03] <thompa> sorry gdm
[04:03] <co0kie> they do have the rights to /myDrive
[04:03] <co0kie> dont*
[04:03] <Mon> Jaivaz: just resizing shouldn't. i would make a backup of important stuff though :)
[04:04] <Jaivaz> Alright, thanks.
[04:04] <elver> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libswt3.1-gtk-java_3.1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/java/swt-gtk-3.1.jar', which is also in package libswt-gtk-3.1-java
[04:04] <vdrab> Mon: i thought the killall command killed and then reloaded. my bad.
[04:04] <Chousuke> _david_: cedega file.exe; sleep; cp ... ; whatever
[04:04] <thompa> where can I find a list of bugs for breezy?
[04:04] <pl_ice> rawiramdhan mount it first from ur hostname, see what it says, see the log files...
[04:04] <zyga> thompa: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[04:04] <thompa> thansk
[04:04] <_david_> thanks
[04:04] <co0kie> pl_ice: An examble, i wanna have the user called "bob" to have acces to /dev/hda1, how?
[04:05] <Jaivaz> Would k3b work with burning .isos?
[04:05] <Mon> Jaivaz: sure, but a right click on an iso will do the same :)
[04:05] <Troels> Mon: sudo apt-get install serpentine --->
[04:05] <Troels> "Reading package lists... Done
[04:05] <Troels> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:05] <Troels> E: Couldn't find package serpentine"?
[04:05] <vdrab> does anyone have any experience with other VOIP software (skype clients?)
[04:05] <vdrab> Gizmo?
[04:05] <thompa> I think there are still problems using kde and gnome on same system
[04:05] <Jaivaz> I never got the Nautilus burner to work
[04:05] <Mon> Troels: you added the universe repository?
[04:05] <Mon> Jaivaz: how's that?
[04:05] <Jaivaz> That is, the CDs never worked when finished
[04:05] <lsuactiafner> what is yasm? yasm -f elf -m amd64 -o common/amd64/dct-a.o common/amd64/dct-a.asm
[04:05] <Troels> I'll do that again.
[04:05] <lsuactiafner> assembler?
[04:06] <Mon> Jaivaz: then i guess you could try something else...
[04:06] <pl_ice> co0kie u'll have to use fstab and mount only for that user drive, otherwise u'll have to get smb-something packet that will allow to mount non root users
[04:06] <ubuntuuser697> hi could anyone help me i cant seem ot get .cgi scripts executing on my webserver
[04:06] <Shin_Gouki> plice, found the file?
[04:06] <Savant> nah, uniq still ain't working
[04:06] <ubuntuuser697> it jsut displayes the code
[04:06] <Savant> got it sorted, but still dups....
[04:06] <Mon> Savant: first sort and then uniq
[04:06] <co0kie> pl_ice: ok, how?
[04:06] <Mon> Savant: or sort -u even
[04:06] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki where is is? can u give me full path? i hardly use icewm, only console
[04:07] <Shin_Gouki> pl_ice  /home/*usr*/.icewm/toolbar ...should be ^^
[04:07] <Shin_Gouki> pl_ice  me ttoo
[04:07] <Seveas> ubuntuuser697, make sure you have read the apache documentation on CGI (search for ExecCgi and ScriptAlias)
[04:07] <ubuntuuser697> righto will do
[04:07] <ubuntuuser697> its written in perl
[04:08] <ubuntuuser697> jsut to check
[04:08] <ubuntuuser697> i know perl is installed
[04:08] <pl_ice> co0kie i can't remember :) but if u put good config in /etc/fstab it's gonna be ok, eg  /dev/dhx /path/to/mount   ntfs rw,user  0  0
[04:08] <Savant> Nope...still nothing :(
[04:09] <Savant> well, let me rephrase that... still everything =\
[04:09] <Mon> Savant: sure they're 100% the same? no spaces or something in
[04:09] <antisocialboris> im having problems with apt-get when i try to install wine
[04:09] <co0kie> pl_ice: mount -t ntfs -o ro,user /dev/hda1 /path/to/ntfs
[04:10] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki nothin' there :/
[04:10] <Originoo> hey, where i can find the chesum for the kubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso?
[04:10] <pl_ice> got only theme
[04:10] <Savant> looks like it
[04:10] <Shin_Gouki> ok np then i...its just ok ^
[04:10] <Shin_Gouki> ^^
[04:10] <Savant> does gedit show /n and /r/n the same way?
[04:11] <Savant> is there a way to set all the newlines one way?
[04:11] <pl_ice> co0kie put that in ur file /etc/fstab :  /dev/hda1 /wheretomount  ntfs ro,user  0  0
[04:11] <Mon> Savant: can you paste me a portion of the file in a private conv? if it's not from the CIA or something...
[04:11] <TG__> Hello, i've just tried to run the live CD, it boots, shows [ok] 's and shows a mouse cursor with the ubuntu logo on a brown background, but after that, the system hangs. Could someone tell me how to resolve this and if this would happen if I install ubuntu on my pc?
[04:11] <co0kie> ok, then it will work right away? Or shoul i reboot ?
[04:11] <Savant> nah, password lists from public ftps
[04:11] <Mon> co0kie: remount it
[04:12] <co0kie> Mon: ?
[04:12] <el_kato> Originoo:    http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/kubuntu/5.10/MD5SUMS
[04:12] <Mon> co0kie: you have it mounted? unmount it, then remount /media/window(or whatever)
[04:12] <No1Viking> !tell me about java
[04:12] <No1Viking> !tell me about javadeb
[04:12] <co0kie> ok
[04:14] <co0kie> Mon: have put this in /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1       /media/ntfs_c   ntfs    ro,user         0       0
[04:14] <co0kie> Mon: then what?
[04:14] <Enlite> I just did an apt-get install apache2 and im getting quite a few W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports
[04:14] <Mon> co0kie: then "unmount /media_ntfs_c && mount /media/ntfs_c"
[04:15] <co0kie> Mon: ok
[04:15] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki where u want me to paste? the file is in /etc/X11/icewm/toolbar, gues that the std one
[04:15] <Mon> Enlite: wrong url then. i think it changed to the official ubuntu servers
[04:15] <co0kie> Mon: As root?
[04:15] <Shin_Gouki> plice , paste bin
[04:15] <Shin_Gouki> plz
[04:15] <Shin_Gouki> wait a sec
[04:16] <Mon> co0kie: ehr yeah i forgot
[04:16] <xophEr> hm, how do I reset my gnome panel? Ive managed to screw it up so that I cant get it smaller than 48px anymore .. .
[04:16] <co0kie> ok
[04:16] <Shin_Gouki> plice thx
[04:16] <Troels> Co0kie: Kasper?
[04:16] <Shin_Gouki> no need for paste , i thank u VERY much :9
[04:16] <Mon> vdrab: can you search for a skype user named "mon" or something from the netherlands? i forgot my accountname :)
[04:16] <co0kie> Troels: Kasper?
[04:17] <Mon> xophEr: remove it?
[04:17] <sn0n> hey guys.. is there something wrong with the on screen keyboard ?
[04:17] <Troels> co0kie: Okay, you're Kasper then.
[04:17] <sn0n> i installed it.. but it wont.. opemn
[04:17] <Troels> co0kie: He hides under the same name.
[04:17] <co0kie> Troels: What?
[04:17] <xophEr> it has something to do with the menu bar-object.. when I remove it, it minimizes itself to 24px again.. main menu works fine though..
[04:17] <co0kie> Troels: Are you Danish?
[04:17] <Troels> co0kie: Yes.
[04:17] <Enlite> Mon: fresh install of breezy..
[04:18] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki wait a bit my wless on laptop is down :/
[04:18] <co0kie> Troels: Det jeg ogs, og jeg hedder ikke Kasper ;)
[04:18] <Enlite> Mon: even if i do apt-get update .. same errors
[04:18] <Troels> co0kie: Hvor er du fra?
[04:18] <co0kie> Troels: Sydfyn, Svendborg
[04:18] <Mon> Enlite: ehr what was the problem?
[04:19] <Enlite> Mon: getting W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems and E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:19] <Enlite> Mon: when I do apt-get update
[04:19] <co0kie> Troels: Dig?=
[04:19] <Mon> Enlite: ah the backports. if you use breezy you really don't want hoary backports ;)
[04:19] <Mon> Enlite: just remove the line
[04:19] <sn0n> ok. somethings wrong with the gok package. ;-)
[04:19] <Troels> co0kie: Den lokale LAN-sammenslutning, BNAN, har et medlem som har som vane at kalde sig enten co0kie eller m0nk, s jeg troede du var ham.
[04:19] <Troels> co0kie: Jeg er fra stjylland.
[04:19] <Enlite> Mon: oh ok
[04:20] <Troels> co0kie: et styk uden for Randers.
[04:20] <Mon> Troels: co0kie English please. there's a #ubuntu-dk or #ubuntu-no channel too
[04:20] <Troels> Sorry.
[04:20] <Troels> ;)
[04:20] <co0kie> Troels: Good at linux ?
[04:20] <sn0n> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2922
[04:21] <Troels> co0kie: I'm a beginner with Ubuntu, really, but it's not that different from the others.
[04:21] <Troels> co0kie: I'm a UNIX'er.
[04:21] <Troels> :)
[04:21] <co0kie> Troels: Ok
[04:21] <Troels> co0kie: Just need a system with a terminal! You?
[04:22] <co0kie> Troels: Trying to switch over to Linux
[04:22] <Troels> co0kie: From?
[04:22] <TG__> (16:11:33) (TG__) Hello, i've just tried to run the live CD, it boots, shows [ok] 's and shows a mouse cursor with the ubuntu logo on a brown background, but after that, the system hangs. Could someone tell me how to resolve this and if this would happen if I install ubuntu on my pc? <-- anyone? please?
[04:22] <co0kie> Troels: WinXP
[04:22] <Troels> co0kie: Okay :P
[04:22] <Troels> That's great ;)
[04:23] <pl_ice> hey which room was for pasting? #pastebin ?
[04:23] <el_kato>  TG__:  is there scrates on your live cd  ?
[04:24] <TG__> no, i've tried it on the laptop of my friend, and it worked perfectly
[04:24] <Mon> TG__: sounds like a weird hardware problem. what graphics card do you have. any scsi devices?
[04:24] <TG__> Abit Ati radeon X600 pro PCIE
[04:24] <Mon> TG__: does the system immediatly hang when you see the ubuntu logo or after you press enter
[04:25] <co0kie> Troels: Know how to mount an ntfs drive, so a normal user can access it?
[04:25] <Mon> TG__: hmmz PCIE :)
[04:25] <co0kie> :S
[04:25] <TG__> no, it tries to show the "taskbar", and then it hangs
[04:25] <Mon> TG__: if you have an old agp/pci card around. try that
[04:25] <sn0n> anyone else have gnome onscreen keyboard problems? i installed it, but it wont open.
[04:25] <TG__> Mon: i don't :(
[04:25] <Mon> TG__: oh wait, i didn't read "live cd"
[04:25] <Troels> co0kie: Tried Users and Groups?
[04:26] <sn0n> says the registry is missing. shouldnt this be fixed before release? ;-)
[04:26] <co0kie> does anyone know how to mount an ntfs drive, so a normal user can access it?
[04:26] <co0kie> Troels: What do you mean?
[04:26] <Mon> TG__: try booting with noacpi. when you press F1-F10 there's a lot of info about disabling stuff
[04:26] <Troels> co0kie: system -> administration -> users and groups?
[04:26] <sn0n> co0kie, chmod 777 /dev/ntfsdrive   ?
[04:26] <sn0n> lol
[04:27] <TG__> so, choose the advanced startup thing, and look for noacpi?
[04:27] <Troels> co0kie: Maybe, maybe I should have a look, before saying something stupid.
[04:27] <Mon> TG__: basicly yeah :)
[04:27] <TG__> thx!
[04:27] <TG__> going to try it
[04:27] <TG__> brb
[04:27] <krisi> i installed kubuntu-desktop but how do i get into kde?
[04:27] <sn0n> can someone try intalling and running the onscreen keyboard (gok) for me.. its in the base packages..   im having problems getting it running
[04:27] <Troels> co0kie: I think there's a "User privileges" in "Settings for User XXX"?
[04:28] <co0kie> Troels: I think I've already tried it :S
[04:28] <pl_ice> hey which room was for pasting? #pastebin ?
[04:28] <Troels> co0kie: Hm.
[04:28] <sn0n> pl_ice, there is pastbin.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:29] <pl_ice> co0kie ,once u reboot and u places that line in /etc/fstab it's gonna be ok!
[04:29] <cerius> tach
[04:29] <sn0n> pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl   *
[04:29] <co0kie> pl_ice: ok then i will try ;)
[04:29] <pl_ice> otherwise u have to install smb*something packet for mounting for non-root users
[04:29] <co0kie> cya
[04:29] <cerius> lin zum deutschen chanell bitte thx
[04:29] <pl_ice> thnx sn0n
[04:29] <derFlo> hi. How can I make the DHCP-Client to backround it's request, like knoppix does?
[04:29] <sn0n> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2922   anyone
[04:29] <derFlo> if it doesn't get an IP Address.
[04:30] <krisi> how do i start kde? i'm in gnome right now
[04:30] <sn0n> krisi, use gdm, change the sessions
[04:30] <krisi> ok
[04:30] <sn0n> i think its called sessions.. lol..
[04:30] <sn0n> ;-)
[04:30] <sn0n> oops
[04:31] <cerius> \join #ubuntu-de
[04:31] <cerius> lol
[04:31] <sn0n> cerius, its worse when its ur nick identify  ;-)
[04:31] <Mon> sn0n: you use breezy?
[04:31] <sn0n> Mon,  yes
[04:32] <Mon> sn0n: k. installing. please stand by :)
[04:32] <sn0n> thnx
[04:32] <olicat> hi all. can i connect to my router with the usb connection on breezy?
[04:32] <sn0n> i used the 'Add programs' from the gnome menu.
[04:32] <Mon> sn0n: you're right. crashes straight away
[04:32] <sn0n> as i was tryin to emulate my friend who would be doin the same
[04:32] <Mon> sn0n: lemme check bugzilla
[04:33] <sn0n> hes inmy computer science class.. and is legally blind, and yadda yadda yadda.. was gonna get him setup on ubuntu..
[04:33] <Mon> sn0n: heh good project
[04:33] <sn0n> :-)
[04:33] <satafterh> anyone here
[04:33] <sn0n> hes a nice guy. just a lil blind.. lol
[04:34] <pl_ice> no
[04:34] <Troels> Mon: I made the thingy work... something was configures the wrong way... It's not my own machine. What was the thing I should install? Serpentine or universe?
[04:34] <selinium> Anyone recommend a good ftp agent deamon?
[04:34] <Mon> Troels: serpentine :)
[04:34] <sn0n> he can see areas, but nothing clearly. cept his monitor.
[04:34] <pl_ice> vsftpd :D
[04:34] <Troels> ;)
[04:34] <sn0n> anyways. is it in bugzilla ?
[04:34] <Troels> Mon: ah, shit, it still can't find it!
[04:35] <Mon> sn0n: there's something but with another error. try starting it from a terminal
[04:35] <sn0n> i did
[04:35] <sn0n> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2922
[04:35] <Mon> sn0n: ah good :)
[04:35] <Mon> sn0n: http://bugzilla.ubuntulinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13746
[04:35] <Mon> sn0n: i get something else actually...
[04:36] <sn0n> weird
[04:36] <Mon> sn0n: hm but try installing "gcopernicus" helped for me :)
[04:36] <pl_ice> what's the sysntax for shutdown? eg: shutdown -h -t 1 bye bye, won't work
[04:36] <sn0n> whats gcopernicus ?
[04:37] <sn0n> this is gonna sound ignorant on my part. but it should be automatic.
[04:37] <dbzdeath> sn0n: in other words you mean ignorant? or literally blind
[04:37] <co0kie> pl_ice: it didn't work...
[04:37] <sn0n> im not blind, the guy im tryin to setup is.
[04:38] <dbzdeath> sn0n: thats what i meant.. is he literally blind? or ignorant
[04:38] <sn0n> hes literally blind.. walking stick and all..
[04:38] <pl_ice> co0kie , what did u put in /etc/fstab? can u paste ONLY that line u placed it?
[04:38] <dbzdeath> sn0n: ahhh... i thought your might have meant he was ignorant when it came to the law
[04:38] <sn0n> hehe
[04:38] <sn0n> no.. lol
[04:38] <dbzdeath> which would make some sort of sense... getting him off of pirating windows :P
[04:39] <co0kie> pl_ice: /dev/hda1       /media/ntfs_c   ntfs    ro,user         0       0
[04:39] <Mon> sn0n: you're completely right. apt should take care of that, unfortunatly it didn't. lets hope the maintainer fixes it
[04:39] <sn0n> hmmm.. hes got less then a week
[04:39] <sn0n> lol
[04:39] <pl_ice> co0kie did u change the folder ownership?
[04:39] <dbzdeath> sn0n: how do you get a blind person to use a pc? ... seriously?
[04:39] <lore_> Hi. I have a quick question. have just started using ubuntu so am very new. we have a creative soundblaster live card trough dell and we get no sound.
[04:39] <Mon> sn0n: if you search for gcopernicus in synaptic you can read more about it
[04:40] <Mon> !tell lore_ about soundproblems
[04:40] <lore_> have given up trying to figure it out and need to know what sound cards will work with linux.
[04:40] <pl_ice> lore_ run alsamix probably something is 'mute'
[04:40] <dbzdeath> lore_: check out the alsa site
[04:40] <sn0n> dbzdeath, he can see a little.. i dont know exactly.. i just know he cant walk without the walking stick.. and his face is always 2 inches from the monitor.. and he uses OSK when hes on windows..
[04:40] <dbzdeath> ahhhh
[04:40] <co0kie> pl_ice: it aint mounted, when i type mount, then it isn't showed
[04:40] <lore_> pl_ice: we went through all of that and i believe it's because it is not a creative card. you know can only update drivers through dell
[04:41] <pl_ice> co0kie mount -av
[04:41] <dbzdeath> sn0n: he should invest in glasses *jokes*
[04:41] <sn0n> but before i go suggesting ubuntu to him.. i was gonna make sure i got gok working..
[04:41] <boxerboy29> ubuntu doesnt have a grafical scrabble game?
[04:41] <sn0n> ida know what kinda blindness hes got.. i just know its gotta suck..
[04:42] <sn0n> i guess he can only see less then a few inches..
[04:42] <lore_> are there any sound cards that will work with both linux and windows as i am running both systems on my pc?
[04:42] <JoeBaldwin> Hi, anyone know where I could get GIMP 2.3 backports?
[04:42] <sn0n> cuz when he reads papers in class. hes a few inches away.. and never looks at the projector.. and uses the walking stick..
[04:42] <johnnybezak> hey guys how do i add a new wm to gdm?
[04:43] <Mon> lore_: basicly any card... unless really obscure
[04:43] <sn0n> hmmm.. thats offf.. gftp isnt in 'Add Applications'
[04:43] <Mon> lore_: my onboard nvidia and ES1370 both work great
[04:43] <Mon> sn0n: use synaptic :)
[04:43] <Troels> Mon: Am I stupid, or will it just not install it? It just can't find it :(
[04:44] <co0kie> pl_ice: when i type mount, then it tells me this: /dev/hda1 on /media/ntfs_c type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[04:44] <sn0n> hehe.. i am.. i was just using the Add Applications.. since its there and all..
[04:44] <lore_> Mon: thanks. I'll go to the alsa site and check it out. dont want to spend exta $$ if i don't have to. y'all are great thanks.
[04:44] <sn0n> figured there'd be at least one FTP prog in the 'add applications'   ;-)
[04:44] <pl_ice> co0kie try now, looks like u mounted it now
[04:45] <co0kie> pl_ice: aint got the right for it
[04:45] <TG__> Mon: i've tried booting with "live noacpi=off" and "live noacpi=on", both didn't work
[04:45] <Mon> sbartleylinux: yeah it's a nice app but there's just a few possibilities in there. not my cup of coffee exactly
[04:45] <satafterh> what should i add to my source lit to update mplayer, or is mplayer not updated very often
[04:45] <sn0n> hmmmm... the applications menu dont update automatically anymore when i synaptic new programs.. thats annoying..
[04:45] <pl_ice> co0kie i'm looking it up, getting annoyed with it ...
[04:45] <Mon> TG__: i have no idea whether PCIE could be the cause, but since it is pretty new...
[04:45] <Mon> TG__: and some of the other disabling options?
[04:46] <co0kie> pl_ice: ?
[04:46] <TG__> didn't try
[04:46] <TG__> should i ask on the ubuntu forums?
[04:46] <Mon> TG__: good idea :)
[04:46] <TG__> ok :)
[04:46] <sn0n> oh well.. off to work i go.
[04:46] <bRv_dodo> bon zi v
[04:46] <sasch1> Can anybody help me with a little dpkg problem,please? Since I tried to upgrade gstreamer08-gtk I cant use apt-get anymore/
[04:46] <bRv_dodo> a+ tout le monde
[04:47] <starscalling_> hello again ^^
[04:47] <Mon> sasch1: does it say something about apt-get -f install ?
[04:47] <pl_ice> co0kie i'm findng some howto for ya,
[04:47] <starscalling_> !tell starscalling  about azureus
[04:47] <Mon> Troels: hmm seems like you're not stupid but i am. serpentine isn't in hoary
[04:47] <pl_ice> guys what what that package that allows smbmount w/o root privilages? i bloody forgot!!
[04:47] <starscalling_> hrm
[04:47] <co0kie> pl_ice: ok thanks :)
[04:47] <sasch1> Mon: no it says something about dpkg --configure -a and then it just does nothing anymore
[04:48] <starscalling_> ok so this time around i uncommented everyihing in /etc/apt/sources.thing
[04:48] <starscalling_> how can i get the package to apt get please?
[04:48] <Mon> sasch1: then run that :) "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[04:48] <Mon> starscalling_: run: sudo apt-get update afterwards
[04:48] <sasch1> Mon: actually I am on on su -already
[04:49] <DrData> an isdn veteran here, knowing how to config the old teles 16.3 cards???
[04:49] <starscalling_> yeah ive done that mon and it cant seem to find the package lol
[04:49] <Mon> starscalling_: what pkg?
[04:49] <sasch1> Mon: this is what the terminal says and freezes: Setting up gstreamer0.8-gtk (0.8.11-0ubuntu4) ...
[04:49] <starscalling_> azureus
[04:50] <starscalling_> do i need to add a line in the apt-get sources to reflect the extra's repository?
[04:50] <Mon> Troels: i guess you could compile serpentine yourself but i wouldn't recommend it if you haven't done something like that before. other option is to install k3b
[04:50] <Mon> sasch1: try to remove it
[04:51] <ACEa> how do I kill processes that don't answer on kill -9 ?
[04:51] <Mon> starscalling_: what's the line you added for azureus?
[04:51] <sasch1> Mon: how? I cannot use any apt-get or other commands
[04:51] <pl_ice> co0kie and it won't mount manualy under root or u managed it?
[04:51] <Troels> Mon: Compiling... I've only compiled my own programs with g++ in Ubuntu. Haven't went any further.
[04:51] <starscalling_> the bot said its in the extra's repository.. i havnt added one.. let me try it :P
[04:51] <ptlo> ACEa, any process is killed with -9. if it's not, then the kernel hanged somewhere
[04:52] <Amun> i just got a laptop. and i put in the live cd, booted up, but didnt find my wifi card. where can i find out if my wifi card is supported?
[04:52] <sasch1> Mon:  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. *sigh*
[04:53] <boxerboy29> does anyone know of a grafical scrabble game for ubuntu?
[04:53] <starscalling_> Mon,  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates extras restricted <<-=-= and applicable source line. is that correct ?
[04:53] <DrData> teles 16.3 pnp anybody?
[04:53] <Mon> sasch1: why did you install it?
[04:54] <Mon> Troels: then i'd just choose k3b :)
[04:54] <pl_ice> co0kie : www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[04:54] <Troels> Mon: Okay.
[04:54] <Mon> DrData: try the forum. more chance there i think
[04:54] <Shin_Gouki> pl_ice, thx again u helped me much with the ICEwm stuff :)
[04:54] <Mon> starscalling_: and you do run hoary?
[04:54] <sasch1> Mon: why? I jsut did some smart upgrade.
[04:54] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i list my LPT/parralel /serial devices, which shell command?
[04:54] <co0kie> pl_ice: gonna check that guide ;)
[04:55] <pl_ice> co0kie i'm off to bed, been partying too much ;)
[04:55] <co0kie> pl_ice: ;P
[04:55] <Mon> sasch1: so you run Breezy now?
[04:55] <sasch1> Mon: running breezy
[04:55] <pl_ice> g'night  ;)
[04:55] <starscalling_> 5.04 right mon. it seems it didnt like that when i tried the update for some reason
[04:55] <Mon> sasch1: in that case you can't use hoary apps...
[04:55] <starscalling_> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/Release  Unable to find expected entry  extras/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[04:55] <sasch1> Mon: for a couple of weeks without *cough* problems
[04:56] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys
[04:56] <Hendric> how do i change the default ubuntu splash screen?
[04:56] <ThePyromaniac> anyone know how to bump up the speed of Sound juicer? It was on 3-4x and i set paranoid to 0 and its now fluxuating between 8-9
[04:57] <Mon> ThePyromaniac: usually a scratched cd causes that
[04:57] <Arthur> How can I enable the worstation's keyboard to use it on LTSP environment?
[04:57] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: it's probably somewhere in gconf but I don't know the details
[04:57] <snarf> why are fonts all messed up in kde?
[04:57] <ThePyromaniac> mon i tried it on 9 different cds so far ^^
[04:57] <Mon> starscalling_: i just use the .jar...
[04:57] <snarf> everything is tiny
[04:57] <Mon> ThePyromaniac: all scratched? :p
[04:57] <boxerboy29> hendric: do you have a splash screen to put in its place?
[04:57] <ThePyromaniac> lol, only half
[04:57] <starscalling_> mon i want to be able to access the extra's place though ..
[04:57] <Mon> ThePyromaniac: could be it limits itself too. the lower the speed, the better the quality
[04:57] <coobra> hmm
[04:58] <starscalling_> i tend to install a lot of things now and then..
[04:58] <ThePyromaniac> mon perhaps
[04:58] <ThePyromaniac> i had mine up to 13x before, forgotten how!
[04:58] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki sorry man, but did u get that file? i'm on storng hand over and not sure what's up :/
[04:58] <starscalling_> perhaps there would be a list somewhere !_!
[04:58] <ThePyromaniac> ahh, i set ogg quality to 1 instead of 0.5/ that'll be it i bet
[04:58] <Mon> starscalling_: so you have "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/ main universe multiverse" in sources.list?
[04:59] <Amun> i just got a laptop. and i put in the live cd, booted up, but didnt find my wifi card. where can i find out if my wifi card is supported?
[04:59] <Shin_Gouki> pl_ice, no its alright everything ok regarding that
[04:59] <boxerboy29> hendric: if not art.gnome.org has some good ones just download the one you like than go to system preff. and splash screen and install it than use it and thats it should be good from there
[04:59] <Hendric> boxerboy29, i have one...
[04:59] <coobra> when i do : sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5   it cant find the repositories for it :/
[05:00] <Mon> sasch1: try dpkg --force-depends --purge gstreamer0.8-gtk
[05:00] <starscalling_> ah
[05:00] <Hendric> boxerboy29, there is no splash screen under preference..
[05:00] <starscalling_> seems that wasnt in the sources list
[05:00] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki oki, i pated the contence to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl or something like that, c ya
[05:00] <Mon> coobra: i recommend making your own package
[05:00] <boxerboy29> there isnt?
[05:00] <ThePyromaniac> new question, i have NO idea about samba
[05:00] <ubuntu_> hello any french here please ?
[05:00] <Troels> kissing?
[05:00] <Mon> ThePyromaniac: what do you want to do
[05:00] <Mon> ubuntu_: in #ubuntu-fr there are
[05:00] <boxerboy29> hendric: breezy or hoary?
[05:00] <Shin_Gouki> pl_ice, u dont listen to me :) i said it was alright but nvm :)
[05:00] <ThePyromaniac> if i have a /dev/sda5 which is pointing to /home/phil/media/music and i want a windows pc to see that folder... how?!
[05:00] <Mon> boxerboy29: has got to be breezy
[05:01] <ubuntu_> nobody aswer to my questions @ubuntu-fr
[05:01] <pl_ice> ThePyromaniac u know what? i found up to date online book GPL on samba  ;)
[05:01] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki yeh, need some sleep ;) c ya
[05:01] <Mon> ubuntu_: try english then :)
[05:01] <boxerboy29> mon i have it under breezy
[05:01] <Mon> boxerboy29: i mean the splashscreen. that's in breezy, not in hoary
[05:01] <ThePyromaniac> pl_ice: manuals hurt my head, people are nice and explanitory
[05:01] <ubuntu_> ok i think is easy but i'm noob
[05:01] <ubuntu_> so
[05:01] <boxerboy29> been so long since i used hoary i dont remember if it is there
[05:01] <xophEr> how do I reset the settings of my gnome-panel?
[05:01] <xophEr> completely
[05:01] <ubuntu_> i cant find how to access floppy disk via ubuntu
[05:01] <Mon> ThePyromaniac: you can right click a folder and share it which should use samba. never tried it though
[05:01] <boxerboy29> oh ok ty mon
[05:01] <ubuntu_> ...
[05:02] <Hendric> boxerboy29, breezy here...
[05:02] <pl_ice> ThePyromaniac i had qutie big problems with config, and that book helped ;) really good. anyways bie
[05:02] <Mon> xophEr: remove it?
[05:02] <pl_ice> bye
[05:02] <xophEr> Mon, did remove it
[05:02] <sasch1> how can I make apt-get work again after I screwed something up with updating. after dpkg --configure -a the window freezes.
[05:02] <xophEr> didnt help
[05:02] <ubuntu_> cause my windows crashed and i have to copy sata drivers to floppy
[05:02] <Mon> ubuntu_: go to computer, then floppy disk :)
[05:02] <boxerboy29> than it should be there hendric if not try using smeg to see if you cant put it there
[05:02] <Mon> xophEr: whats wrong then
[05:03] <Hendric> this is a fresh install + update.
[05:03] <Shin_Gouki> pl_ice, may be u can help me with telling me which commands does lists all my , LPT or serial devices?
[05:03] <boxerboy29> hendric if im not mistaken mine was put there by default
[05:04] <Mon> xophEr: should be something in ~/.gnome2/panel-something
[05:04] <ubuntu_> my hdd and flash drive ok but no ploppy :'(
[05:04] <xophEr> it should be 24px but its 48px. in its properties it says 24px. Its the menu bar's icon which is causing this, it refuses to shrink with the panel..
[05:04] <xophEr> Mon, removed / renamed that too
[05:04] <Mon> ubuntu_: try "sudo modprobe floppy" in a terminal
[05:04] <ubuntu_> ok try it
[05:04] <Mon> xophEr: hmm dunno then
[05:05] <starscalling_> let me paste
[05:05] <Mon> sasch1: so you removed it but now with --configure it freezes?
[05:05] <xophEr> And the menu bar icon that I customized, Ive removed the custom one and replaced it with the original. but its still there..
[05:05] <sasch1> Mon: I cant remove anything.....
[05:05] <xophEr> any idea where the panel could have hidden it?
[05:05] <ubuntu_> no more
[05:05] <ubuntu_> :'(
[05:06] <Mon> ubuntu_: no more what?
[05:06] <starscalling_> Mon,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2924 is my current apt-get sources list.. what did i do wrong
[05:06] <ubuntu_> nothing changed
[05:06] <ThePyromaniac> any samba experts?
[05:06] <boxerboy29> mon: splash screen is put there by default no?
[05:07] <ubuntu_> can't find /dev/hdo
[05:07] <Mon> boxerboy29: jup but i don't have a clue how/where/what :)
[05:07] <Hendric> boxerboy29, its not there by default
[05:07] <Mon> ubuntu_: you don't mean fd0?
[05:07] <ubuntu_> ubuntu can format the floppy but i cant acces it
[05:07] <TiMiDo> rm this line starscalling deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[05:07] <starscalling_> Mon, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2925 thats the errors im getting when i try to do it
[05:07] <starscalling_> ok
[05:07] <TiMiDo> ubuntu_ did you do adduser $USER floppy?
[05:08] <ubuntu_> no i try it
[05:08] <coobra> is java working in breezy :/
[05:08] <TiMiDo> starscalling_ rm this line Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com main/multiverse Packages
[05:08] <TiMiDo> yes it is coobra
[05:08] <Troels> Mon: Thanks a lot, mate.
[05:08] <Mon> coobra: download the .bin, make your package and java away! :)
[05:08] <Mon> Troels: np
[05:08] <coobra> Mon:  ok i hawe newer done that :P
[05:09] <userubuntu> Do I have a modem Agere/Lucent 044c what it doesn't diffuse in the linux UBUNTU, would anybody be able to me it helps?
[05:09] <Troels> Mon: You shouldn't happend to know some page with help for compiling such programs yourself? I'm sure I have to at some point.
[05:09] <Mon> coobra: it's only 2 lines of typin
[05:09] <TiMiDo> userubuntu www.linuxmodem.com
[05:09] <Mon> Troels: yeah i do but it can be a bit of work :)
[05:09] <ubuntu_> what default name for ubuntu user (live cd)
[05:09] <Mon> Troels: let's go then. download the .tar.gz or tar.bz2 (you can find it on gnomefiles.org)
[05:09] <sasch1> Mon: can I remove the gstream08 somehow without doing the dpkg --configure before?
[05:09] <TiMiDo> ubuntu_ i think it's ubuntu
[05:10] <Mon> sasch1: yes with dpkg --force-depends --purge packagename
[05:10] <Mon> !tell coobra about java
[05:10] <Mon> coobra: it's easy :)
[05:11] <Hendric> i just burned my /var/apt/archive.. for future reinstallation.. how can i use this? so that i won't be updating the whole 478 packages..
[05:11] <ubuntu_> seems already member floppy group
[05:11] <starscalling_> er
[05:11] <ubuntu_> ...
[05:11] <starscalling_> TiMiDo,
[05:11] <ubuntu_> noob powa :'(
[05:11] <starscalling_> if i want it to go from more than one of the 'types'
[05:11] <userubuntu> Do I have a modem Agere/Lucent 044c what it doesn't diffuse in the linux UBUNTU, would anybody be able to me it helps?
[05:11] <starscalling_> then i just list all the types in the same string?
[05:11] <Troels> Mon: You mean for serpentine?
[05:11] <Hoxzer^> What is the good way to moun iso in ubuntu?
[05:11] <Mon> Hendric: copy (as root) everything on the cd to /var/cache/apt/archives again
[05:11] <starscalling_> i dont need different strings for em?
[05:11] <marlijs> has  anyone working Canon laserbase MF5630 in hoary?
[05:11] <Mon> Troels: yeah
[05:11] <Hendric> Mon, cool!
[05:11] <unperson> I want to make a large partition for storing media files on my HD, probably something around 100 GB.  Generally, I use ReiserFS for everything, but is that the best choice in this case, or do other FSs get considerably better performance on a partition that size?
[05:11] <Mon> marlijs: check linuxprinting.org to see if it works
[05:12] <Mon> unperson: for large files (mp3s, movies) ext3 is faster. reiserfs will work too ofcourse
[05:12] <starscalling_>  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/ main universe multiverse restricted   <<<<< could that be a source for instance?
[05:12] <marlijs> Mon: i am googlin already for some time, i think there is need to write a driver for linux
[05:12] <Troels> Mon: okay.
[05:12] <zoot_> hi! is there a quick way on debian/ubuntu to record installed packages, so that one can backup only /etc /home and /var/lib /var/log /var/cache/apt/archives et al and rebuild a damaged system from scratch, using debian tools without having to backup everything?
[05:12] <Mon> marlijs: then you're **** out of luck i think
[05:13] <sasch1> Mon: dpkg --force-depends --purge gstreamer......freezes too
[05:13] <twinoatl> hi
[05:13] <Mon> sasch1: something's really f*cked up. maybe you should try a reboot and then removing it again
[05:13] <Trackilizer> What's the name of the ubuntu-oftopic channel?
[05:13] <starscalling_>  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/ main universe multiverse restricted   <<<<< could that be a source for instance TiMiDo  ?
[05:13] <Mon> Trackilizer: #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[05:13] <stpere> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:13] <marlijs> Mon: yeap, so it goes :(
[05:13] <TiMiDo> Trackilizer #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:13] <Trackilizer> Thanks.
[05:13] <sasch1> Mon: thank you....rebooting
[05:14] <Mon> marlijs: HP usually works. i bought a brother last time works too. should check it before you buy one next time :)
[05:14] <Hoxzer^> Lol
[05:14] <Hoxzer^> :E
[05:14] <mats> how do i install direct3d?
[05:14] <mats> :p
[05:14] <userubuntu> Do I have a modem Agere/Lucent 044c what it doesn't diffuse in the linux UBUNTU, would anybody be able to me it helps?
[05:14] <stpere> mats, huh?
[05:14] <unperson> Mon:  Ext3 has better performance in that case, eh?  Any idea of a web page where this is discussed?
[05:14] <mats> stpere: i need suport for direct3d, i have opengl ;)
[05:14] <Hendric> mats, you don't....
[05:15] <bob2> userubuntu: what's your native language?
[05:15] <marlijs> Mon: HP rullz, but i have this Canon in office, how difficult is to write a driver for printers in linux?
[05:15] <Mon> unperson: try googling for ext3 reiser fs benchmarks or something. that's how i found it
[05:15] <stpere> mats, look for cedega if you need to run windows games in linux
[05:15] <Mon> unperson: ow and for reaaally big files and partitions, xfs should be great
[05:15] <stpere> mats, www.transgaming.com
[05:15] <userubuntu> bob2 POrtugues, BRAZIL
[05:15] <user__> how do i make ubuntu automaticly login?
[05:15] <Trackilizer> Why is it that it takes ages to open a new tab in Fireofx.
[05:15] <Trackilizer> Nearly 5 secs.
[05:16] <bob2> !+br
[05:16] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[05:16] <Mon> marlijs: i think really difficult. i have no idea :) you could perhaps pay someone to do it if you really want it
[05:16] <bob2> userubuntu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[05:16] <_jason> Trackilizer:  have you disabled ipv6?
[05:16] <Troels> BurgerMann: Message.
[05:16] <Hendric> Mon, i believe that HP all-in-ones are supported on breezy.. but it seems that the scanner is not detected.. but i can print.
[05:16] <BurgerMann> Troels: didn't get it
[05:16] <satafterh> source for mplayer??
[05:16] <Mon> Hendric: i was talking about printers. i have no idea about all in one or scanner stuff...
[05:16] <ThePyromaniac> please, i need a samba guru
[05:16] <bob2> satafterh: why bother? it's already in ubuntu.
[05:16] <userubuntu> bob2 nobody is online in this channel
[05:16] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: no, you probably don't
[05:16] <Hendric> Mon, ok.
[05:16] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: just ask your question
[05:17] <Mon> ThePyromaniac: #samba or #debian perhaps ?
[05:17] <Troels> BurgerMann: Hm... weird... well, you asked if I needed Danish support for Ubuntu, right?
[05:17] <user__>  how do i make ubuntu automaticly login?
[05:17] <BurgerMann> Troels: yah :)
[05:17] <Mon> marlijs: what kind of thing was it (type)?
[05:17] <bob2> user__: that's a terrible idea, but "sudo gdmsetup"
[05:17] <satafterh> really??
[05:17] <Maikeru> hey
[05:17] <ThePyromaniac> i asked earlier :p
[05:17] <bob2> satafterh: yes...
[05:17] <marlijs> Mon: all-in-one
[05:17] <Mon> bob2: why's that. some people like things easy. like me :)
[05:17] <Troels> BurgerMann: Maybe you could help me compiling the source code for serpentine? Mon is busy, you see :)
[05:17] <satafterh> what about the w32's
[05:17] <Maikeru> yesterday I had the problem where the system was lagging real bad under breezy and I was told to create a swap partition
[05:17] <Mon> marlijs: type number i meant
[05:17] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: I don't see it
[05:17] <Maikeru> then I was told instead of rebooting to type swapon /dev/hda1
[05:17] <BurgerMann> Troels: what's serpentine? :)
[05:17] <_jason> userubuntu #ubuntu-pt maybe?
[05:18] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 1 sec
[05:18] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: unless it was your question about how to share a directory
[05:18] <Troels> BurgerMann: For burning.
[05:18] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: in which case you *really* don't need an expert
[05:18] <boxerboy29> ok i ran all kinds of searches in synaptic to see if i installed anything that would make splashscreen appear there and the only thing i found that might have done it was that program that allows you to download stuff from art.gnome.org
[05:18] <Maikeru> I shut off my computer and today when I turned it on it was lagging and I had to type swapon again
[05:18] <Maikeru> shouldn't it do this automatically on system startup?
[05:18] <marlijs> Mon: Canon Laserbase MF5630
[05:18] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: either look in /etc/samba/smb.conf (scroll to the bottom, it's pretty clear) or use the gnome samba sharing thing
[05:18] <Troels> BurgerMann: I've already installed k3b, but I know I'm going to need how to compile source codes at some point.
[05:18] <starscalling_> !tell starscalling  about azureus
[05:18] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 i know, but if you can get it working i consider you a guru, im very sleep deprived and manuals are really hurting my head, lol
[05:18] <bob2> Maikeru: look at your /etc/fstab
[05:18] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 i have the folder i want shared
[05:19] <BurgerMann> Troels: where're you going? ;)
[05:19] <Troels> BurgerMann: Sorry!
[05:19] <Troels> ;)
[05:19] <Trackilizer> So, is it only me or does it takes a very long time to open tabs in firefox?
[05:19] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 i looked on ubuntu guide and it has all this junk about network users and passwords...
[05:19] <BurgerMann> Troels: well if you're on messenger my id is burgermann@pandia.d.k
[05:19] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: ignore that
[05:19] <Maikeru> no mention of /dev/hda1
[05:19] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 ok
[05:19] <BurgerMann> Troels: burgermann@pandia.dk even
[05:19] <bob2> Maikeru: then add it there so it gets mounted automatically
[05:19] <Maikeru> so what should I put in there?
[05:19] <ThePyromaniac> so if my folder is shared, how do i access it from windows?
[05:19] <Maikeru> hrm
[05:19] <coobra> i hate java hhehehe
[05:19] <twinoatl> what does this means : "powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects"
[05:19] <Maikeru> thanks
[05:19] <Mon> Troels: you got the package?
[05:19] <bob2> Maikeru: /dev/hda2       none            swap    sw              0       0
[05:20] <Troels> Mon: Aye.
[05:20] <bob2> Maikeru: that's from mine
[05:20] <kemik> coobra:  why ?
[05:20] <Mon> Troels: unpacked?
[05:20] <med_> heloo
[05:20] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: how do you normally access shared folders in windows?
[05:20] <coobra> kemik:  i just cant get it to work
[05:20] <Maikeru> thanks bud
[05:20] <Maikeru> much appreciated
[05:20] <Hendric> !restricted
[05:20] <ubotu> I heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:20] <kemik> coobra:  followed the wiki +
[05:20] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 by going onto my networking places?
[05:20] <Troels> Mon: Aye.
[05:20] <ThePyromaniac> i dunno
[05:21] <ThePyromaniac> would it be \\PCNAME\Music?
[05:21] <yuacht> anyone know of an application for the Sony Ericsson K700i?
[05:21] <coobra> kemik:  im doing it know :)
[05:21] <ThePyromaniac> if music was the name of the shared folder
[05:21] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: you'll probably need to use the IP instead of the name, but yes
[05:21] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: if the workgroups match, it should just be visible in network neighbourhood or whatever
[05:21] <Mon> Troels: ./configure then
[05:21] <ThePyromaniac> yay ok
[05:21] <r0d> theplateau, its like any other share
[05:21] <ThePyromaniac> oh, i was told i need to reset samba after changing settings
[05:21] <r0d> actually bob2 i use netbios names and it works ok
[05:21] <ThePyromaniac> how is that done mate?
[05:21] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: if you edit the config file, yes
[05:22] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 i just did
[05:22] <Troels> Mon: Eh, sorry?
[05:22] <bob2> r0d: samba does NMB magically?
[05:22] <ThePyromaniac> how do i reset?
[05:22] <zoot_> anyone know a quick way to store a list of installed deb pkgs and build (restore) a system using such a list? (i'm sure i read a short excerpt some time ago on how to do this)
[05:22] <bob2> rock
[05:22] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:22] <Troels> Mon: Write ./configure in terminal?
[05:22] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 thanks again man
[05:22] <bob2> zoot_: that's usually a bad plan, but dpkg --get-selections
[05:22] <marlijs> ThePyromaniac: I know tha there you cant advertise ubuntuguide.org, but about samba there is anything you need to know
[05:22] <ThePyromaniac> remarkibly simple if it works
[05:22] <r0d> bob2, well thats how access shares :/ \\server-name\share
[05:22] <ThePyromaniac> ban him! chuckle
[05:23] <bob2> r0d: oh, duh me, it's linux who can't do NMB queries without extra stuff
[05:23] <bob2> it's too late, clearly
[05:23] <Mon> Troels: yeah
[05:23] <Mon> Troels: in the directory you just unpacked
[05:23] <Mon> Troels: then you should get some errors :)
[05:23] <zoot_> bob2: thx and why? i'd backup /etc /home and necessary /var dirs, including the stored cache of /var/cache/apt/archives so a clean rebuild can be done before restoring the non packaged data...
[05:24] <bob2> zoot_: then you're cooking
[05:25] <marlijs> Can anyone write a printer driver for Canon MF5630 I can pay for that!!! :)
[05:25] <zoot_> bob2: so you'd recommend the usual full/incremental backup rather? why am i cooked btw :) what are the risks? enlighten me...
[05:25] <starscalling_> ok
[05:25] <starscalling_> i really need some help
[05:25] <bob2> zoot_: cooking = good plan
[05:25] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 it says it cant be found on the network, i used \\Server\Share but it not work
[05:25] <starscalling_> i cant seem to get this apt-get sources to work
[05:26] <ThePyromaniac> this pc is using DHCP so its ip changes alot
[05:26] <Mon> marlijs: i'd try to contact someone at linuxprinting.org
[05:26] <zoot_> bob2: aha!
[05:26] <Troels> Mon: I unpacked it on the desktop.
[05:26] <r0d> bob2, you know if ubuntu will/does have a "kickstart" type application similar to red hats?
[05:26] <bob2> marlijs: linuxprinting says it has no support at all?
[05:26] <bob2> r0d: it has something similar, I gather
[05:26] <bob2> r0d: perhaps FAI?
[05:26] <bob2> starscalling_: what are you trying to do?
[05:26] <r0d> I check it out thx
[05:27] <Mon> Troels: ok. open terminal. "cd serp<TAB>" <enter>
[05:27] <searcher`> r0d: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KickstartCompatibility?highlight=%28kickstart%29
[05:27] <starscalling_> bob2,  im trying to make packages like azureus easily apt-get install
[05:27] <starscalling_> which seems to be in the extra's area which i have no idea how to add.
[05:27] <redeeman> hello
[05:27] <searcher`> hoary is kickstart compatible (according to the wiki)
[05:27] <marlijs> Mon: thank you indeed,  atleast I havent found any solution
[05:27] <redeeman> is kubuntu as supported as ubuntu?
[05:27] <marlijs> bob2: no
[05:27] <Mon> marlijs: or the forums there should get you going
[05:28] <bob2> starscalling_: you seem to be making this absurdly complicated for yourself
[05:28] <starscalling_> apparently i am bob2
[05:28] <starscalling_> :/
[05:28] <Riddell> redeeman: yes
[05:28] <starscalling_> i just want all the packages to show up when i look for them
[05:28] <marlijs> Mon: i have found one issue in italian forum, but I dont speek italian :((
[05:28] <Maikeru> my new gnome setup looks so prettyful
[05:28] <yuacht> anyone know of an application for the Sony Ericsson K700i?
[05:28] <bob2> starscalling_: it's in sid
[05:28] <satafterh> is there a weather tool for linux, I know there is kweather but  i do not want to waste any more time trying to get it to work
[05:28] <starscalling_> in sid?
[05:28] <bob2> starscalling_: er, so find a repository that has it
[05:29] <Maikeru> You using gnome or kde or what?
[05:29] <starscalling_> right!
[05:29] <jhonny> plz, is there a way to install SUN JAVA SDK on breezy, except using the BIN on Sun download page?
[05:29] <billgates2> i changed the graphics card and now x wont start how do i configure x from ternimal
[05:29] <bob2> starscalling_: gnome already has that...
[05:29] <bob2> jhonny: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:29] <redeeman> Riddell: if i download kubuntu now, the breezy badger rc, will i be able to update it once the release arrives? so that its as good as if i installed breezy from beginning?
[05:29] <bob2> billgates2: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:29] <jhonny> thanx
[05:29] <Mon> satafterh: you can add a applet to the panel. or take a look at gdesklets
[05:30] <bob2> satafterh: gnome already has that...
[05:30] <ThePyromaniac> guys, my samaba shared file is saying that what im trying to access doesnt exist. my computer shows in windows share files though
[05:30] <zoot_> bob2: next Q: how to build a deb/ubuntu box from scratch from the output of dpkg --get-selections? (before restoring the non-packages data of course)? i'm assuming there's a quick way :)
[05:30] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: then you haven't shared it correctly
[05:30] <starscalling_> bob2, is sid the symantic package manager?
[05:30] <bob2> zoot_: dude, this is in the manual
[05:30] <bob2> starscalling_: npo
[05:30] <bob2> zoot_: --set-selections, apt-get dselect-upgrade
[05:30] <Riddell> redeeman: yep
[05:30] <bob2> zoot_: and goodnight
[05:30] <zoot_> bob2: ok, rtfm *grin* thx
[05:31] <starscalling_> what would be the easiest way to get the ubuntu-extras repository to work then.
[05:31] <bob2> starscalling_: you're only going to use azurues to get warez anyway, so it doesn't matter if you install it from packages or from the tarball on their website
[05:31] <bob2> just go et that and use it
[05:31] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 how would it be shared incorrectly?
[05:31] <bob2> ignore the bloody broken repository
[05:31] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: ?
[05:31] <Savant> Anyone have a nice CRLF to LF utility?
[05:31] <starscalling_> that is sir only one program from the bunch i would use most liskely
[05:31] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: I cannot guess what you did wrong
[05:31] <bob2> Savant: dos2unix /msg ubotu find dos2unix
[05:31] <starscalling_> and dont assume that i would get wares
[05:31] <bob2> sysutils, iirc
[05:32] <Mon> Savant: ehr dos2unix, unix2dos
[05:32] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 well there are only about 5 parameters to a share that it could be...!
[05:32] <bob2> starscalling_: good for you
[05:32] <starscalling_> which btw is open domain
[05:32] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: how could I guess without seeing it?
[05:32] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 true
[05:32] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: this is where you paste it to #flood
[05:32] <bob2> starscalling_: that's awesome
[05:32] <bob2> I'm so happy
[05:32] <starscalling_> great
[05:32] <starscalling_> so now that we are both happy
[05:32] <starscalling_> how could i add that to my sources?
[05:33] <bob2> add *what*?
[05:33] <Mon> starscalling_: you don't. as i said just get the .jar it'll work great
[05:33] <starscalling_> i dont?
[05:33] <starscalling_> just get the .jar?
[05:33] <bob2> sri: you don't appear to have actually found someone who has a repository containing azurues
[05:33] <bob2> ba
[05:33] <searcher`> starscalling_: Azureus is available through the ubuntu backports project: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:33] <bob2> my god
[05:33] <Mon> Troels: how's it going?
[05:34] <starscalling_> mine too ~_~
[05:34] <bob2> starscalling_: so, your question boils down to "how do I use hoary-extras?"
[05:34] <starscalling_> yes
[05:34] <starscalling_> thats it exactly
[05:34] <bob2> starscalling_: now show us your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood
[05:34] <starscalling_> ok
[05:34] <Troels> Mon: Great, BrugerMann is helping me - he's Danish ;)
[05:34] <Mon> Troels: allright. good luck then :)
[05:35] <Troels> Mon: Thanks, mate. And thanks a lot for your help! ;)
[05:35] <bob2> starscalling_: deb http://kambing.vlsm.org/ubuntu-backports/hoary-extras/ main universe
[05:35] <trans_err> anyone know of a good solution for full remote control of my mac from my linux box-- VNC is much to sluggish and my mac's resolution is much higher (and to my knowledge VNC doesn't do any sort of scaling)
[05:35] <bob2> starscalling_: also, adding random things to your sources.list is kinda silly
[05:36] <test34> trans_err, sshd ?
[05:36] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 its firestarter, stupid me
[05:36] <ThePyromaniac> how do i allow samba in firestarter?
[05:36] <starscalling_> my reasoning bob2  was that if they are there those 2 might have packages that the others didnt have to offer *adds what im told atm*
[05:37] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: if you're on an internal network, you don't need a firewall
[05:38] <bob2> starscalling_: no, that reasoning iis incorrect
[05:38] <trans_err> test34: graphical...
[05:38] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 yea but they all have internet connection... i allowed the samba port so its ok nw :D time to test
[05:38] <bob2> starscalling_: deb-src lines do not make binary software packages available to you
[05:39] <starscalling_> new errors in #flood
[05:40] <starscalling_> should i re-comment the original 2 lines i had in my sources file then and make the 2 with the new source uncommented? or am i being even more dense than that
[05:41] <coobra> bhha
[05:41] <starscalling_> the profile of an idiot: todays star:: starscalling !
[05:41] <Stricklin> I'm a Linux convert
[05:41] <coobra> i get that files dont exist
[05:41] <coobra> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb   <-- :/
[05:41] <Bad_Magic> so.... hows breezy coming along?
[05:41] <Bad_Magic> =)
[05:43] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 i have changed the [homes]  browseable = yes and now it asks me for a password when i try to connect... this is all very odd
[05:44] <steveO_Laptop> How do I stop the time Sync with server at boot up?
[05:44] <kbrooks> Bad_Magic: good for here, but i've had to disable cron and anacron
[05:44] <geoff_theFish> has anybody else got a weird bug with their firefox home page?
[05:45] <geoff_theFish> sometimes it goes to my homepage sometimes to a page i looked at on another site once
[05:45] <thechitowncubs> when is flash 8 scheduled for linux?
[05:46] <ThePyromaniac> steve0_Laptop: go to System -> Admin -> Services
[05:46] <ThePyromaniac> untick the sync option
[05:46] <yuacht> hmm, where can i view info abt my usb units?
[05:47] <starscalling_> ok i give up
[05:47] <starscalling_> i cant seem to get backports to work or universe anywhere//
[05:48] <thechitowncubs> yuacht,
[05:48] <thechitowncubs> lsusb
[05:48] <kbrooks> grabbing ipython ...
[05:49] <coobra> bhha
[05:49] <_jason> starscalling:  whats the problem?
[05:49] <coobra> im missing something lol
[05:49] <coobra> where do i find a list with like good Repositories
[05:49] <starscalling_> !tell starscalling  about sources
[05:50] <coobra> hmm
[05:50] <coobra> tell me :P
[05:50] <steveO_Laptop> ThePyromaniac, thanks its not check grrr but its hanging on time sync...
[05:50] <tristanmike> you all should "IDENTIFY" and join the "Offical" Channel
[05:51] <tristanmike> :P
[05:52] <ThePyromaniac> stetve0_Laptop, that sucks, lucky for me it fails every time! heh
[05:52] <xophEr> hm, for all those who want to change the ubuntu logo from the gnome panel to something else: The new file you have to edit is /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[05:52] <ThePyromaniac> #samba doesnt have nice helpful people :(
[05:52] <Subliminal> i'm some teething problems with a wireless keyb / mouse - when the mouse has batteries in it, the computer registers button presses when i havent made any, this is rather annoying, as the middle button seems favourite so if your typing it will paste all sorts of stuff into the terminal, it's also messed up my desktop :-(
[05:52] <mithen> what C/C++ ide do you use?
[05:52] <Hendric> are HP all-in-ones supported by breezy out of the box?? (print & scan)
[05:53] <wickedpuppy> mithen, emacs
[05:53] <stevewabc_Laptop> ThePyromaniac, yea it fails to after about 2 min lol but I no there is a command that just deletes that optiom
[05:53] <stevewabc_Laptop> option
[05:54] <stevewabc_Laptop> thanks any how time for goole
[05:54] <Hoxzer^> How do I enable DMA acceleration?
[05:54] <thompa> does anyone know of  graphic issues running both kde and gnome?
[05:54] <stevewabc_Laptop> google
[05:54] <ThePyromaniac> good luck
[05:54] <stevewabc_Laptop> I will post it after I find it
[05:54] <stevewabc_Laptop> again
[05:55] <IceRAM> hi everybody
[05:55] <thompa> im trying to get gnome back to normal
[05:55] <IceRAM> is anyone around here with a horay Live CD? I'd like to know why I can't get "apt-get install mc" to work
[05:55] <mithen> which C++ IDE do you use?
[05:55] <IceRAM> it seems mc is not in the package list... which is ODD
[05:56] <mister_roboto> mithen: kdevelop is supposed to be pretty good. I like vi :)
[05:56] <zyga> anyone knows X well around here?
[05:56] <stevewabc_Laptop> ThePyromaniac, found it.... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1028.html
[05:56] <nuopus> hello
[05:56] <stevewabc_Laptop> google rocks!!!
[05:56] <nuopus> Ubuntu Breezy Rocks!
[05:57] <zyga> I need to run startx as a specific user from inittab
[05:57] <zyga> I keep getting X authority errors
[05:57] <zyga> (unauthorised user, bla bla bla)
[05:57] <zyga> if I run this manually as root
[05:57] <thompa> can someone help me sort out gnome window displays and menus?
[05:57] <zyga> eg
[05:57] <zyga> su - user -c startx
[05:57] <zyga> it just works
[05:57] <spayne> thompa: possibly, what's up?
[05:58] <thompa> spayne: hi thanks. im not sure maybe a bug. i installed kde, xfce, fluxbox and my gnome windows have changed
[05:59] <ThePyromaniac> steveabc_Laptop rock on!
[05:59] <spayne> thompa: how have they changed?
[06:00] <thompa> eg log out window is white box with text, unable to select anything
[06:00] <thompa> menus look strange
[06:00] <mister_roboto> zyga: what about using the suid bit?
[06:00] <thompa> i have gdm running
[06:01] <beetle11011> I installed on my shuttle xpc, with a sis chipset.  when I playback any video file I see a Red X Pattern.  anyone else seen this?
[06:01] <Hoxzer^> How do I mount iso?
[06:02] <zyga> mister_roboto: ?
[06:03] <zyga> mister_roboto: I can login as that unprivilidged user and run startx manually
[06:03] <zyga> mister_roboto: it just works then :/
[06:03] <dbzdeath> zyga: try using sudo -u user startx
[06:03] <Chinaman> how do i save the settings in amixer?
[06:03] <dbzdeath> erm
[06:03] <dbzdeath> *gksudo
[06:03] <zyga> dbzdeath: hmm, will do - one moment
[06:04] <zyga> dbzdeath: I'm building a web terminal, there is no gksudo
[06:04] <dbzdeath> ah
[06:04] <zyga> I'm starting inittab runs a script that sets up a preconfigured environment and runs startx on that normal user to run firefox
[06:04] <Azrael_-> hi
[06:04] <Azrael_-> i walked out of the range of my wlan and then back, how do i let my laptop now reconnect to the wlan?
[06:05] <mister_roboto> xyga: sorry, i don't know. maybe it's trying to write to some logs or access libs only executable by root?   no idea
[06:05] <mats> ifdown and ifup
[06:05] <billgates2> cherrs guys my ubuntu machine is back and running
[06:06] <Maikeru> wth
[06:06] <zyga> mister_roboto: no, it perfectly runs when I normally login on vty1 and type startx
[06:06] <Maikeru> some guy is on my network
[06:06] <mats> Azrael_-: /sbin/ifdown eth1; /sbin/ifup eth1
[06:06] <Maikeru> asking about a botnet
[06:06] <Maikeru> and calling me brother
[06:06] <Maikeru> and he won't shut up
[06:06] <Azrael_-> mats: ive configured them by hand
[06:06] <Azrael_-> so now i get told: not configured
[06:07] <paul24> hello
[06:07] <mister_roboto> zyga: oh... thought you were trying to run X itself as the user :)
[06:07] <daejavu> has anyone tried to run GoogleEarth  on linux ?
[06:07] <zyga> mister_roboto: I do, via startx
[06:07] <paul24> I`ve just installed ubuntu and I have 2 lan
[06:07] <paul24> how can I make that on my 2nd lan to share internet to anothr comp
[06:08] <Chinaman> how do i get alsa to save my sound settings? every time i reboot, i have to set Digital/Analog output to on
[06:08] <paul24> ?
[06:08] <praseodym> how do I install irssi?
[06:08] <praseodym> on ubuntu
[06:08] <mister_roboto> zyga: but the X server itself runs suid root
[06:08] <mats> praseodym: apt-get install irssi-text
[06:08] <apokryphos> praseodym: open synaptic, and install it
[06:08] <mister_roboto> zyga: the server process runs as root, i thought you were trying to change that for some reason
[06:08] <praseodym> mats: is there another irssi too then
[06:08] <zyga> mister_roboto: yes I know
[06:09] <daejavu> has anyone tried to run Google Earth  on linux ?
[06:09] <praseodym> daejavu: wont work
[06:09] <zyga> mister_roboto: I just need to run startx that reads .xinitrc and setups stuff from inittab
[06:09] <praseodym> mabu: irssi-text works
[06:09] <paul24> can anyone help me?
[06:09] <Azrael_-> mats: ive configured it with iwconfig
[06:09] <Chinaman> how do i get alsa to save my sound settings? every time i reboot, i have to set Digital/Analog output to on
[06:09] <DazeD||lap> hey i know its been said you cant install windows after you installed linux...but i need to know if you really cant or...is there a way?
[06:09] <mister_roboto> zyga: but the bottom line, I have no idea on your problem and why it doesn't work. you do the same "su ... -c .." and it doesn't work from init?
[06:09] <mats> praseodym: just type irssi in a terminal, its native in ubuntu ;)
[06:09] <praseodym> Chinaman: with alsastore or so
[06:09] <daejavu> praseodym, any alternative ?
[06:10] <mats> Azrael_-: ooh, i think you have to do it all over ;O
[06:10] <praseodym> daejavu: maps.google.com
[06:10] <mats> not sure
[06:10] <thompa> spayne: i think im going to start removing things with synaptic
[06:10] <praseodym> mabu: well it works now
[06:10] <dbzdeath> su -c startx - username <-- should work... i think
[06:10] <dbzdeath> zyga: ^^^
[06:10] <thompa> hopefully it clears it out. i tried restarting and installing gdm. no go
[06:10] <paul24> so... how can I share internet with my second eth?
[06:11] <Chinaman> praseodym: alsastore doesn't work
[06:11] <mats> by using nat
[06:11] <DazeD||lap> anyone?
[06:11] <zyga> dbzdeath: trying...
[06:11] <Chinaman> DazeD: you can but it will erase grub
[06:11] <Chinaman> but you can always put it back through a live CD
[06:11] <DazeD||lap> Chinaman, cant i reinstall grub with a live disc?
[06:11] <zyga> maybe some $variable points to a wrong location
[06:11] <Chinaman> Dazed: indeed
[06:12] <paul24> hey
[06:12] <paul24> can anyone HELP me?
[06:12] <DazeD||lap> Chinaman, also do i need to pre partition...so i dont lose my linux or will windows installer do it?
[06:12] <thompa> anybody know of anything xdesktop related i can uninstall?
[06:13] <Chinaman> in the windows installer, partition a part of one hard drive as NTFS and leave another part blank
[06:13] <Chinaman> then you can use Ext3 to do the clean area for linux
[06:13] <ThePyromaniac> fucking samba! too complicated. someone said just addng share will work, now the guys on #samba are suggesting i do all this malarkey with setting up netwrok groups, users and passwords...
[06:14] <iriedodge> f
[06:14] <zyga> hmm
[06:14] <zyga> now xauth is timing out
[06:14] <thompa> seems installing kde desktop or kbuntu from ubuntu breaks some things
[06:14] <apokryphos> thompa: like?
[06:14] <Buddha|> Does anyone here use WindowLab?
[06:14] <Chinaman> how do i get scite to show up with tabs?
[06:14] <zyga> it tries to lock //.Xauthority
[06:14] <dbzdeath> zyga: try changing allowed_users to anybody in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
[06:14] <paul24> anyone here?
[06:14] <kent> Is there a way to hibernate a computer from a terminal?
[06:14] <apokryphos> paul24: no-one I'm afraid
[06:15] <paul24> well. duh
[06:15] <apokryphos> du indeed
[06:15] <paul24> I am asking something and none know
[06:15] <apokryphos> or duh, even
[06:15] <thompa> apokryphos: windows manager maybe. i dont know.
[06:15] <apokryphos> uh?
[06:15] <zyga> dbzdeath: YES!
[06:15] <thompa> but i got lots of empty white windows
[06:15] <iriedodge> i've got an grub error 22, any tips on how to get my machine to boot, anything... it also has winxp on ther, I think I deleted the ubuntu partition accidentally
[06:15] <zyga> thank you :D
[06:15] <paul24> how can I share internet connection with my 2nd eth?
[06:15] <apokryphos> thompa: in...?
[06:15] <dbzdeath> zyga: be aware it is less secure
[06:15] <zyga> it worked very well :)
[06:15] <Chinaman> anyone know how to get tabs to show up in scite?
[06:16] <thompa> eg log out window. thanks for responding
[06:16] <zyga> dbzdeath: that's okay - the box is inaccessible from the outside world
[06:16] <paul24> how can I share internet connection with my 2nd eth?
[06:16] <zyga> hmm
[06:16] <zyga> one more issue
[06:16] <zyga> it didn't execute .xinitrc
[06:16] <zyga> hmm
[06:16] <apokryphos> thompa: in gnome?
[06:16] <zyga> I'll check why
[06:16] <dbzdeath> kent: the hibernate package maybe?
[06:16] <olicat> anyone having problems getting the vertical scroller working on their touchpads in breezy? i've just moved from FC4 where it was working, but not with ubunty
[06:16] <olicat> ubuntu*
[06:16] <thompa> apokryphos: also the menus in gnome have old kde look theme maybe. yes gnome
[06:17] <Trackilizer> So, how do i update to the new version of ubnutu when it comes out?
[06:17] <Chinaman> !tell chinaman about scite
[06:17] <apokryphos> thompa: sounds very odd; how did you install kde?
[06:17] <thompa> im checking the bug list right now
[06:17] <apokryphos> thompa: and, have you changed the window managers or something?
[06:17] <thompa> synaptic
[06:17] <Trackilizer> apt-get install kde
[06:17] <thompa> yes in KDE
[06:17] <apokryphos> erm
[06:17] <apokryphos> the recommended way is to install kubuntu-desktop
[06:17] <thompa> maybe i need to go back there and reset
[06:17] <Belutz> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:18] <apokryphos> though installing kde metapack shouldn't produce problems, really
[06:18] <thompa> thats nice to know
[06:18] <Chinaman> any one use scite?
[06:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> night all
[06:18] <apokryphos> 'night Kamping_Kaiser
[06:18] <paul24> how can I share internet connection with my 2nd eth?
[06:18] <Trackilizer> So, can i update to the newest version of ubuntu without losing all installed apps and settings.
[06:19] <olicat> any one know about scolling with a touchpad on breezy? seems to be broken
[06:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[06:19] <thompa> i also installed something like x ubuntu maybe, sorry cant remember
[06:19] <apokryphos> paul24: quit flooding; if someone is able/willing to help, they will.
[06:19] <paul24> hmmmmmm
[06:19] <apokryphos> thompa: well, compile a bug report; you shouldn't really get that behaviour anyhow
[06:19] <mister_roboto> olicat: I was wondering the same thing and found it's in the bug list
[06:19] <olicat> mister_roboto, ah ok cool. cheers
[06:19] <mister_roboto> olicat: touchpad works but can  no longe click-drag
[06:20] <olicat> i can't scroll, or click drag
[06:20] <mister_roboto> olicat: yes, both are already writte up
[06:20] <thompa> well im on breezy, so maybe its something
[06:20] <paul24> anyone of you hae 2 lans?
[06:20] <thompa> no shouldnt be
[06:21] <Buddha|> Does anyone know what package libc0 is in?
[06:21] <mister_roboto> paul24: yes but it uses hardware routers
[06:21] <Stricklin> A stupid question: How do I make all the folders/files in /home and recursive down writable? I'm using Breezy.
[06:22] <thompa> apokryphos: probably i should stay with one desktop anyway or ill never get any work done
[06:22] <paul24> mister_roboto I have 2 lans on my pc and I want to share my internet connection... how can I do that?
[06:22] <apokryphos> Buddha|: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:22] <apokryphos> thompa: as I said, you shouldn't get that behaviour anyway. I have both installed in perfect harmony here
[06:22] <thompa> i think i may try kbuntu from new install
[06:22] <apokryphos> thompa: and many many others do
[06:22] <Stricklin> In Windows, I changed the permissions and it asked me if I wanted to change all the files/folders below. Nautilus doesn't do that.
[06:22] <mister_roboto> stricklin: chmod -R a+w /home      but that is a bad idea
[06:22] <thompa> using simply apt?
[06:22] <thompa> ok
[06:23] <apokryphos> yes
[06:23] <Stricklin> why is that a bad idea?
[06:23] <thompa> something in synaptic i must have installed i think
[06:23] <ThePyromaniac> where can i find a clean    etc/smb.conf?
[06:23] <thompa> ill find it
[06:23] <Kelraith> paul24: I dont know for sure since I have one nic. but my firewall Firestarter lists a local and internet connections with a check box for internet sharing. Thats I'll I have....
[06:23] <Stricklin> I've copied everything over from my backup CD, and I'd like to be able to use them.
[06:23] <_jason> does anyone know of a streaming media format that some linux program will handle well?
[06:23] <mister_roboto> paul24: well, by far the simplest way is to just go buy a router and put that between your cable modem (or whatever) and your computers (that is, if you don't use a dialup
[06:24] <paul24> I just want to link my other pc to this
[06:24] <tyler_durden> how can i make sure EVERYTHING nvidia is removed from my computer
[06:24] <thompa> apokryphos: how do you solve the problem when switching to other desktop, icon image or name missing.
[06:24] <paul24> so... u say that I cant do that with 2 lan?
[06:24] <thompa> from desktop
[06:25] <ibrasil> paul24, access http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/ to generate a script to sharing your connection
[06:25] <paul24> thanks ibrasil
[06:27] <tyler_durden> how can i make sure EVERYTHING nvidia is removed from my computer
[06:27] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: i wanted to ask you about the ubuntu nvidia-glx... did you use it and how was performance?
[06:27] <egon_spengler> tyler_durden, Run the uninstall script nvidia provides
[06:28] <tyler_durden> mister_roboto i used it when i had the newest drivers instralled, before i had the mess of yestarday
[06:28] <Buddha|> Is it possible to install a Debian package that isn't available through Ubuntu on an Ubuntu system?
[06:28] <tyler_durden> i got 23xx
[06:28] <tyler_durden> egon_spengler, where is that?
[06:28] <anethema> hey! they just updated zsnes
[06:28] <anethema> kick ass!
[06:28] <[LethAL] > Buddha|, yes, but not advised
[06:28] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: and how was the performance?
[06:29] <tyler_durden> on games?
[06:29] <D1> Buddha|: yeah, but you risk breaking your system
[06:29] <mister_roboto> yes
[06:29] <dave321> Hi all! I'm using breezy.  Which repository do I need to add for acroread and sun's java?
[06:29] <tyler_durden> i didnt really try i only played one level in ut2k4, it was ok but pretty slow when i looked in a certain direction
[06:29] <egon_spengler> nvidia*.run uninstall
[06:29] <Buddha|> [LethAL] , D1 - Okay, so how would I do it?
[06:29] <D1> dpkg -i <package>
[06:29] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: did you try glxgears?
[06:30] <tyler_durden> yes, i said i got 23xx before this mess
[06:30] <anethema> dave321, multiverse
[06:30] <anethema> !repositories
[06:30] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[06:30] <dave321> anethema: Thanks
[06:30] <dave321> ubotu: Thanks
[06:30] <ubotu> dave321: gern geschehen
[06:30] <nemopaice> Is there a utility for cleaning....ie: cache, cookies, tmp, etc.
[06:30] <ThePyromaniac> can anyone that has never played with the /etc/smb.conf throw it in pastebin for me?
[06:30] <[LethAL] > dave321, ubotu == bot
[06:30] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: ok, that was using the ubuntu packaged binary driver?
[06:30] <Buddha|> D1 - It says "cannot access archive: No such file or directory"
[06:31] <D1> you need to download the package you want and replace packagename with it.
[06:31] <tyler_durden> no it was using apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:31] <dave321> LethAL: Thank you
[06:31] <tyler_durden> i had everything fine, then i tried isntalling the 66's which messed everytjhing up and i cant install the new ones again now
[06:31] <tyler_durden> and im on vesa
[06:31] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden:  ahhh ok
[06:32] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: did you save your old Xorg.conf?
[06:32] <holycow> tyler_durden, great nic
[06:32] <tyler_durden> oh maybe
[06:32] <tyler_durden> where can i find it again?
[06:32] <tyler_durden> ty holycow
[06:32] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: /etc/X11
[06:32] <MaRtIn_1> pls, how can i set up a ipv6 to ipv4 tunnel?
[06:33] <nemopaice> or maybe a comand for cleaning?
[06:33] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: does vesa work?
[06:33] <[LethAL] > MaRtIn_1, 6tunnel
[06:33] <tyler_durden> yes im ont vesa now
[06:33] <MaRtIn_1> ok thx
[06:33] <tyler_durden> when i try to switch to nvidia it wont work
[06:33] <mille83> is possible to connect to internet in gprs/umts with nokia 6630 in ubunto 5.10????
[06:33] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: okay ...
[06:33] <erisco> hello everyone. i was asking yesterday about a good gui ftp client. people said gftp, or if i wanted a terminal i could use ncftp. well i had no clue how to really use ncftp and gftp crashed like hell
[06:33] <neoliminal> anyone got a wiki link to on encrypted partitions and swap?
[06:33] <erisco> so guess what i found?
[06:33] <kbrooks> erisco: what?
[06:33] <tyler_durden> mister_Robot i have about 9 backups of it lol how do i know which one of them worked? :(
[06:33] <Buddha|> D1 - It says I need a newer version of libxrender1, but I have the most recent version available through Ubuntu.  So I just have to wait for libxrender1 to update?
[06:33] <erisco> package name is mc and it stands for midnight commander
[06:34] <D1> I guess so.
[06:34] <erisco> it isn't gui, it is a... what do you call it? councel?
[06:34] <erisco> with mouse support
[06:34] <D1> thats the downside of using non-ubuntu packages, things don't work out.
[06:34] <erisco> so extremely easy to use
[06:34] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: well you could try diff'ing against the previous ones to see what has changed.
[06:34] <erisco> and since it isn't gui it works perfectly
[06:34] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: ls -l, pick the most recent backup which (don't FORGET TO READ THIS PART) work
[06:35] <Stricklin> What is the name of the cd burning package with the Penguin? I forgot.
[06:35] <mister_roboto> erisco: the command line ftp isn't terribly hard to use :)
[06:35] <erisco> i recommend this to everyone who is looking for an easy to use, reliable ftp client
[06:35] <ThePyromaniac> please someone help me :( can someone look at my /etc/smb.conf and say why my pc cant see my samba share anymore?
[06:35] <bronson> Anyone know how to make less perform a case sensitive search?
[06:35] <ThePyromaniac> pastebin.com/388203
[06:35] <erisco> http://linuxreviews.org/man/mc/ there is the manual
[06:35] <erisco> great program
[06:35] <neoliminal> man less
[06:36] <erisco> sudo apt-get install mc
[06:36] <erisco> try it =)
[06:36] <bronson> neoliminal: duh.  -i and -I don't work.
[06:36] <Stricklin> k3b is for KDE, right?
[06:36] <thompa> in synaptic there is kdesktop and kubuntu-desktop.
[06:36] <bronson> neoliminal: maybe you can point me to the spot in the manpage?
[06:36] <thompa> can i install both?
[06:37] <neoliminal> bronson: hrm.
[06:37] <mister_roboto> Stricklin: yes it's a kde program (uses kde libs)
[06:38] <Aven> hi
[06:38] <Aven> I installed apache (finally)
[06:38] <blekos> hi
[06:38] <Aven> and, I don't know where the directory it is :P
[06:38] <nemopaice> I have only been using linux for 2 days now, I like it, I'm learning quick, But I cannot find anything for cleaning up system files. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[06:38] <Stricklin> I really liked this one package, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was called! :)
[06:39] <Aven> I typed "localhost" in my browser and it works!
[06:39] <Aven> but where's the directory? :P
[06:39] <LarstiQ> nemopaice: what system files need cleaning up?
[06:39] <bronson> nemopaice: what do you mean?
[06:39] <nemopaice> LIke cache cookies , tem files etc.
[06:39] <ScatterBrain> Aven: the directory for the default web site - which you see in "http://localhost" is located at /var/www/htdocs.
[06:39] <nemopaice> *temp
[06:39] <dradul> nemopaice, Linux is not windows, you don't need to do "system files cleaning".
[06:39] <Aven> ScatterBrain: awsome
[06:39] <mister_roboto> Stricklin:  "apt-cache search <keyword>" might help you find it if you remember a good keyword :)
[06:40] <Aven> thanks
[06:40] <ScatterBrain> Aven: No problem.
[06:40] <nemopaice> wont they eventually take up my free space though>
[06:40] <dradul> nemopaice, all the files you want to clean are under your control in your own home directory, as hidden files and idrectories (aka dot files).
[06:40] <neoliminal> bronson: isn't it already case sensative?
[06:40] <LarstiQ> nemopaice: not unless you are _very_ resource constrained (say, a 350mb harddisk)
[06:41] <dradul> nemopaice, temporary files (those in /tmp) are cleaned up automatically when you reboot.
[06:41] <Aven> ScatterBrain: do you know where the httpd.conf would be located at?
[06:41] <neoliminal>  bronson: I think it's starts off case sensative and you have to do something to turn it off.
[06:41] <mister_roboto> Stricklin: what about graveman? is that any good?
[06:41] <dradul> nemopaice, on dotfiles, it is better you don't delete them unless you know exactly know what they are and what you are doing.
[06:42] <dradul> nemopaice, on browser cache files and cookies, use the security panel in your browser (firefox) to remove them.
[06:42] <Stricklin> I don't think that was it
[06:42] <nemopaice> ok, such differences takes a little getting use to. Thanks for the info. On a good note I removed M$ all together from my system and I am running linux exclusivly
[06:42] <Stricklin> I know it's not Serpentine
[06:42] <neoliminal>  bronson: You there?
[06:42] <nemopaice> ok I can do that. thanks very much
[06:42] <dradul> nemopaice, good for you! I still can't unfortunately :-(
[06:43] <Stricklin> What is a DVD-RAM?
[06:43] <ScatterBrain> Aven: /etc/apache2, but it's actually called apache2.conf
[06:43] <dave321> what's the apt command for uninstall?
[06:43] <Stricklin> Is that the same as a DVD-RW?
[06:43] <mister_roboto> bronson: i just tried -i on less and it works fine
[06:43] <Aven> ah ok, thanks again :)
[06:43] <ScatterBrain> dave321: apt-get remove [appname] 
[06:43] <nemopaice> well the only thing I was concerned with was cinema 4D vut I managed to get it to work a little, and I use Blender as well
[06:43] <Maikeru> hey everyone
[06:43] <vikash> hi
[06:44] <dave321> ScatterBrain: Thanks
[06:44] <Maikeru> CompUSA had a laptop for like $460 or so, and for $50 you could upgrade its ram to 512GB
[06:44] <Maikeru> :)
[06:44] <vikash> anybody there
[06:44] <ScatterBrain> Maikeru: I'm sure you mean 512*MB*, not *GB*, right?
[06:44] <dradul> nemopaice, I think there is a native version of blender on the Universe repositories (but don't take my word for it).
[06:45] <Maikeru> No, they said GB
[06:45] <ScatterBrain> heh
[06:45] <Maikeru> :P
[06:45] <dradul> in the Universe... :-)
[06:45] <ScatterBrain> I need two of those machines then.
[06:45] <Maikeru> Yeah
[06:45] <nemopaice> Yea I found the Native Blender. Big learning curve from C4D but does a great job
[06:46] <dradul> Stricklin, a DVD-RAM is a different DVD technology, most modern DVDs can play (and write if it is an rw) both technologies.
[06:47] <comforteagle> running hoary.. I had apache 1.3 running, did an apt-get php4 which upgraded to apache2, but didnt' work. I did an apt remove, but neither apache version will work.  suggtions on how to fix??
[06:47] <neoliminal> Anyone know how to make Ubuntu use encrypted swap?  Also what are my options for encrypting either partitions or folders?
[06:47] <Stricklin> Hmmm, interesting
[06:49] <mille83> i need help...please query me thanks
[06:50] <s3[mn] rain> Can someone help me with a small problem....I am running kde, and in my kmenu, right below "Utilities" and right above "Find Files/Folders", I have an entry for "Kaffeine" that I do not want there, when I try to use the menu editor and delete the item, it is still there when I view the menu...how do I get rid of it?
[06:50] <Hendric> how do i change resolutions in XFCE4???
[06:50] <Aven> bleh, last question...
[06:50] <Aven> how do you start/stop and restart apache?
[06:51] <Aven> s/and/or
[06:51] <s3[mn] rain> Aven:  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[06:51] <Aven> ah ok :)
[06:51] <s3[mn] rain> and stop/restart works too
[06:53] <brettcar> neoliminal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=encrypt&titlesearch=Titles
[06:53] <fredforfaen> Hi peeps
[06:53] <Ober> can one install ubuntu with the live cd?
[06:53] <neoliminal> Thanks brettcar
[06:53] <kbrooks> Ober: No.
[06:53] <fredforfaen> Ober no
[06:53] <Ober> ok thanks
[06:53] <kbrooks> Ober: use the install cd
[06:53] <bina> hi, im trying to compile Mplayer in Hoary and i get this message http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2929.  Does anyone know how to fix this?  I have a Nvidia GF4 if thats any use
[06:53] <Ober> yeah getting it now thanks
[06:53] <fredforfaen> Ober the dvd has both live and install
[06:53] <fredforfaen> but thats hoary
[06:54] <Ober> yeah could not find a site that allowed the live dvd download
[06:54] <kbrooks> fredforfaen: breezy might still have it. ;)
[06:54] <theine> Does anybody know how I can ensure that the kernel agpgart module is not loaded at boot time? I've put it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist, but that didn't help...
[06:54] <fredforfaen> kbrooks coolness :)
[06:54] <thompa> how can i clean install kubuntu and remove ubuntu?
[06:54] <sri> bob2: what is azurues?
[06:54] <nauj27> hi all
[06:54] <fredforfaen> sri a bittorrent client
[06:55] <sri> fredforfaen: oh, okay.
[06:55] <sri> fredforfaen: win32 client?
[06:55] <sambagirl> how i can find out whayt kind of memory i have in ubuntu?
[06:55] <bronson> neoliminal: sorry.  Pizza break.  (I'm at the gnome summit)
[06:55] <fredforfaen> yes that also sri
[06:55] <sambagirl> i need to buy another chip
[06:55] <bronson> Yes, less is case sensitive by default.
[06:55] <bronson> But somehow I think Ubuntu has made it insensitive.
[06:55] <fredforfaen> sri its multiplatform
[06:56] <bronson> ...  wait.   Maybe it's only man pages.
[06:56] <s3[mn] rain> Can someone help me with a small problem....I am running kde, and in my kmenu, right below "Utilities" and right above "Find Files/Folders", I have an entry for "Kaffeine" that I do not want there, when I try to use the menu editor and delete the item, it is still there when I view the menu...how do I get rid of it?
[06:56] <tyler_durden> mister_roboto it didnt work, i got a good xorg.conf that would of worked but it didnt. how can i make sure everything nvidia is removed from the hd?
[06:56] <thompa> both my notebook and my main are a little screwed up from having both gnome and kde
[06:57] <sambagirl> what are older 128mb chips called? this not using ddr i dont think.
[06:57] <thompa> my notebook starts with kubuntu and then goes to ubuntu log in
[06:57] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: well, apart from removing the nvidia-glx package, i'm not sure.  don't know what droppings the failed install may have left behind
[06:58] <thompa> i like gnome but think ill have less trouble with only kde
[06:58] <tyler_durden> means i have to reformat? this is the third time :( so many problems with linux.. i guess ill have to wait till the final comes out, idk what ill do till then
[06:58] <atom14x7> I'm installing atmelwlandriver. everything works fine until i have to run 'make config' - i get the error '***  No Rule to make target `config'. Stop.' any sugggestions? thanks
[06:58] <fredforfaen> thompa gnome rules
[06:58] <Belutz> sambagirl, sdram
[06:58] <kbrooks> thompa: then  apt-get remove gdm
[06:58] <kbrooks> thompa: kdm at a config prompt
[06:58] <kbrooks> if there is one
[06:58] <kbrooks> select kdm*
[06:58] <fredforfaen> thompa: or do a dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[06:59] <mister_roboto> tyler_durden: did you try reconfiguring your X from dpkg command?
[06:59] <tyler_durden> yes of course
[06:59] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:59] <tyler_durden> yeah i tried, nvidia wont work
[06:59] <thompa> fredforfaen: ok. why do you prefer gnome?. i am at a state where i can make the switch
[06:59] <fredforfaen> tyler_durden: have you changed kernels lately?
[06:59] <kbrooks> thompa: its his opinion.
[06:59] <tyler_durden> umm not sure?
[06:59] <kbrooks> thompa: do as you please
[06:59] <ubuntuuser697> ive just installed libapache2-mod-perl2, do i have to restart apache for it to take effect?
[06:59] <micro_girl> hi people!
[07:00] <fredforfaen> thompa i prefer gnome cus i think is looks prettier and are not so bloated
[07:00] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: uname -r, ls -l /lib/modules
[07:00] <micro_girl> sorry to bother you all, but how can I put my entire system in my own language?
[07:00] <thompa> kbrooks: is it your opinion its his opinion?
[07:00] <thompa> ok thanks
[07:00] <sal> HIYEAH
[07:00] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: pastebin the output
[07:00] <ubuntuuser697> sorry rephrase that should i have to restart apache
[07:00] <neoliminal> no paste!
[07:00] <kbrooks> of those 2 commands
[07:00] <tyler_durden>  uname -r, ls -l /lib/modules
[07:00] <tyler_durden> oops
[07:00] <neoliminal> send him that privately.
[07:00] <tyler_durden> uname: invalid option -- ,
[07:00] <tyler_durden> Try `uname --help' for more information.
[07:01] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: execute those commands seperately
[07:01] <iriedodge> i've got an grub error 22, any tips on how to get my machine to boot, anything... it also has winxp on ther, I think I deleted the ubuntu partition accidentally
[07:01] <tyler_durden> !pastebin
[07:01] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:01] <sal> i need a little help... I just don't know if i'm a stupid one but... i install two time Ubuntu... and the install never ask me for a root password.... ????
[07:01] <bobbyd_> hi
[07:01] <kbrooks> sal:
[07:01] <kbrooks> !root
[07:01] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:01] <fredforfaen> sal use sudo
[07:01] <bobbyd_> what's the ubuntu kernel source package called?
[07:02] <sal> i'm a beginner in... linux too   sorry
[07:02] <fredforfaen> sal use sudo in combiantion with your selected psswrd
[07:02] <kbrooks> bobbyd_: you want linux-headers and build-essential
[07:02] <thompa> fredforfaen: it seems i cant run both kde and gnome on same system seems im jinxed somehow and also its better to learn one.
[07:02] <bobbyd_> kbrooks: ta
[07:02] <tyler_durden> kbrooks whats the other commands, im not sure where to seperate
[07:02] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: the ','
[07:02] <sal> so i write sudo.....
[07:02] <fredforfaen> thompa i have both and no problems
[07:02] <sal> then.....
[07:02] <tyler_durden> so uname ls -l /lib/modules
[07:02] <tyler_durden> ? it wont work
[07:02] <sal> my password
[07:03] <fredforfaen> sal PM me!
[07:03] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: no. pastebin output of 'uname -r; ls -l /lib/modules' to a pastebin
[07:03] <sal> PM
[07:03] <sal> PM
[07:03] <thompa> fredforfaen: i dont know why i do could be older versions of breezy
[07:03] <fredforfaen> lol
[07:03] <micro_girl> sorry to bother you all, but how can I put my entire system in my own language? I set it to "portuguese" at login, but some things (like "applicastion", "places" and others aren't translated!
[07:03] <sal> hhhhahaha
[07:03] <shinu> is the only mplayer in repos 1.0-pre6-0.3?
[07:03] <bobbyd_> sal: eg. sudo you_command <enter> your user password <enter>
[07:03] <fredforfaen> thompa dunno
[07:04] <tyler_durden> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2930 kbrooks
[07:04] <thompa> fredforfaen: how did you install kde?
[07:04] <fredforfaen> sal use sudo like this...xample; sudo apt-get install pkgname
[07:04] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: ty
[07:04] <bobbyd_> shinu: I usually compile my own mplayer to get the latest version...
[07:04] <fredforfaen> thompa ; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:04] <sal> thanx...
[07:05] <sal> i wanna know something else....
[07:05] <fredforfaen> sal np
[07:05] <thompa> fredforfaen: i think my error is i installed abunch of kde apps from synapitc first, then kde desktop, then kubuntu
[07:05] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: O.K.
[07:05] <fredforfaen> thompa that should in theory work
[07:05] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: let me check my pc
[07:05] <tyler_durden> okie
[07:05] <shinu> bobbyd_: yeah... i get ppl telling me that too... but then again.. there is a whole hoard of ppl telling me to only use apt-get...
[07:05] <sal> is X suppose to work after installation...  it's writton no screen found or display i don't remmeber
[07:06] <thompa> fredforfaen; i agree, right now i got a kde desktop, with no kubuntu installed
[07:06] <fredforfaen> sal yes X should work
[07:06] <sal> Oups
[07:06] <fredforfaen> thompa i c
[07:06] <Xanadu> hello all
[07:06] <tyler_durden> sal try doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:06] <fredforfaen> Xanadu hi
[07:06] <tyler_durden> in recovery mode*
[07:06] <fredforfaen> sal yeah listen to tyler_durden
[07:06] <thompa> fredforfaen: and in gnome i got some kde menu themes
[07:06] <bobbyd_> shinu: to get a verion of mplayer that playes all the latest codecs, I find it easier to just get it direct from the mplayer site.
[07:07] <fredforfaen> thompa ok i c
[07:07] <trevis> can anyone take a look at this please? http://rafb.net/paste/results/RtwZiO53.html
[07:07] <sal> okay thanx all
[07:07] <mzo> can someone help me with a library issue?  probably an easy question
[07:07] <fredforfaen> sal np
[07:07] <trevis> having trouble running zend
[07:07] <Xanadu> trevis what is it?
[07:07] <sal> i'll be back soon with other annoying question
[07:07] <shinu> bobbyd_: ill try that, my current mplayer just gives me that its got some cpu/ram management error and cant play some files... whereas xine works very fine
[07:07] <fredforfaen> sal no worried
[07:07] <fredforfaen> sal no worries
[07:07] <sal> =)
[07:07] <fredforfaen> :)
[07:07] <thompa> thanks all
[07:08] <fredforfaen> all is good thompa
[07:08] <thompa> fredforfaen: thanks
[07:08] <fredforfaen> np
[07:08] <Stricklin> So if I remove evolution... I remove the gnome terminal?!?
[07:08] <s3[mn] rain> Can someone help me with a small problem....I am running kde, and in my kmenu, right below "Utilities" and right above "Find Files/Folders", I have an entry for "Kaffeine" that I do not want there, when I try to use the menu editor and delete the item, it is still there when I view the menu...how do I get rid of it?
[07:08] <mzo> I get an 'error while loading shared libraries: libXxf86vm.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory', however the library IS in /usr/lib
[07:08] <mzo> Any ideas?
[07:09] <fredforfaen> mzo i really dont know , sorry
[07:09] <fredforfaen> mzo google?
[07:09] <mzo> sure ill give it a shot.
[07:10] <trevis> Xanadu, i get that error when trying to start zend studio
[07:10] <mzo> thanks
[07:10] <fredforfaen> do that :)
[07:10] <micro_girl> sorry to bother you all, but how can I put my entire system in my own language? I set it to "portuguese" at login, but some things (like "applicastion", "places" and others aren't translated!
[07:10] <fredforfaen> all good things start with google ....lol
[07:10] <mzo> indeed
[07:10] <bobbyd_> shinu: if you use checkinstall to install it, you can easily remove it later
[07:10] <fredforfaen> micro_girl breezy or hoary?
[07:10] <bobbyd_> shinu: eg. checkinstall make install
[07:11] <bobbyd_> shinu: that makes a debian package and installs it. you can remove it using synaptic or one of the other package management tools...
[07:11] <Xanadu> trevis what JRE do you have?
[07:11] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: looks like you need to find flgrx.so -- but apparently i dont have it here so i cant compare
[07:11] <El_Che> micro_girl: apt-get install language-support-pt language-pack-gnome-pt language-pack-gnome-pt-base
[07:11] <shinu> bobbyd_: wow! thats a hell of an important info! thanks a lot! :)
[07:12] <tyler_durden> find it where? and how
[07:12] <trevis> Xanadu, how am i able to check?
[07:12] <anethema> updatedb, locate
[07:12] <anethema> heh
[07:12] <Xanadu> trevis type java -v
[07:12] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name "flgrx.ko"
[07:12] <Stricklin> Drat! I removed something necessary, and now I can't open Terminal!
[07:12] <Belutz> has anyone successfully installed netbeans or eclipse in breezy?
[07:12] <trevis> java version "1.4.2"
[07:12] <trevis> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[07:13] <InitMass> if i enter http://www.ensemblestudios.com/teaser.htm and click on "Click here for more Information" my firefox 1.0.7 dies every single time
[07:13] <Xanadu> Stricklin: alt-f1
[07:13] <anethema> not dyin for me InitMass
[07:13] <Xanadu> Stricklin: correction: ctrl-alt-f1
[07:13] <Xanadu> Stricklin: ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to your desktop
[07:13] <InitMass> anethema, ok. it's very strange imo
[07:13] <tyler_durden> kboorks
[07:14] <Stricklin> Xanadu, what's that do?
[07:14] <tyler_durden> i dont really understand how to put the command togeter
[07:14] <InitMass> anethema, i don't know why my firefox is so unstable
[07:14] <micro_girl> fredforfaen, whoary
[07:14] <anethema> yeah seems strange
[07:14] <anethema> should work fine
[07:14] <micro_girl> el_che , that didn't worked
[07:14] <EasterSunshine> Xanadu: correction, alt-f7 to get back to desktop
[07:14] <fredforfaen> micro_girl what language?
[07:14] <anethema> any wacky extensions installed?
[07:14] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: did you install the nvidia driver?
[07:14] <EasterSunshine> Xanadu: although the adding in the control wont do anything
[07:14] <tyler_durden> apt-get intsall nvidia-glx yes
[07:14] <micro_girl> fredforfaen, portuguese
[07:14] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: did you enable it?
[07:14] <micro_girl> some stuff is translated, but not everything
[07:15] <tyler_durden> from dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? i tried, it wouldnt work
[07:15] <ThunderbirdSix> Was wondering if any of you could take a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=397005#post397005 and let me know if you have any suggestions? Thanks!
[07:15] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: no
[07:15] <Xanadu> Stricklin: there are multiple shell consoles running. Number 7 is default for your desktop. So ctrl-alt-f1, f2, f3 etc swaps between them
[07:15] <anethema> micro_girl, tryed the portuguese channel ?
[07:15] <anethema> !pt
[07:15] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:15] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:15] <micro_girl> -_- that's pt-br
[07:15] <micro_girl> I want pt-pt
[07:15] <tyler_durden> oh i did that
[07:15] <anethema> heh
[07:15] <fredforfaen> micro_girl it may be because your language only is supported by some applications....i have it that way in breezy with norwegain....Blended norwegain and english
[07:15] <Xanadu> Stricklin: Since there is no desktop running on terminal 1 you get a prompt
[07:15] <anethema> yes but maybe they can tell you how to translate everything
[07:15] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: did you check xorg.conf?
[07:15] <tyler_durden> now it says command not found
[07:16] <fredforfaen> micro_girl i think this problem will solve itself when we get better support for our languages
[07:16] <EasterSunshine> anyone has experience with messing up their system by adding debian repos?
[07:16] <s3[mn] rain> what is "/usr/share/menu" for?
[07:16] <anethema> try #ubuntu-pt then
[07:16] <anethema> heh
[07:16] <tyler_durden> what to check for? kbrooks
[07:16] <trevis> woops
[07:16] <trevis> sorry about tha
[07:16] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: do you have the original xorg.conf?
[07:16] <trevis> did you get my last message Xanadu, about my java version?
[07:16] <tyler_durden> let me check
[07:16] <Xanadu> trevis nope missed it
[07:17] <nalioth> trevis: what trouble are you having with java?
[07:17] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: check for nv
[07:17] <tyler_durden> i dont think so
[07:17] <trevis> ok, one second, sorry, i accidentally rebooted
[07:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyone have a link for detailed descriptions of hdpam CMD line switches?... hdparm --help aint doin it for me.
[07:17] <tyler_durden> nv wont work either
[07:17] <olicat> hi again all. is it safe to install python 2.3 and it wont break any of the python-based ubuntu tools?
[07:17] <micro_girl> fredforfaen, but the system itself is mostly in english! for example, I can see "applications, places, system" on top, but I want it in portuguese...
[07:17] <Xanadu> trevis -v doesn't work it's java --version (soz)
[07:17] <Stricklin> I removed Nautilus :/
[07:17] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: in all of your xorg.confs, grep for nv.
[07:17] <trevis> yeah
[07:17] <trevis> i got it
[07:17] <nalioth> olicat: you can have as many pythons as you like
[07:17] <trevis> and pasted the results
[07:17] <Stricklin> Crap
[07:18] <trevis> but i accidentally killed my x, and rebooted
[07:18] <tyler_durden> what do u mean grep? i have a few confs with nvs set in them
[07:18] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: search
[07:18] <tyler_durden> i dont udnerstand sorry
[07:18] <olicat> nalioth, on hoary, i installed python 2.3, but i couldnt use synaptic anymore to view repos, because it required 2.4
[07:18] <fredforfaen> micro_girl yeah i know same here , i think that will solve itself when we get more translations and better language support for hoary/breezy.....i think this eventually will solve itself with a apt-get dist-upgrade a now and then
[07:19] <Stricklin> I'm starting over.
[07:19] <bytefoo> :/
[07:19] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: open up all of your xorg.confs and then search for nv in all of those files, one by one
[07:19] <tyler_durden> and then what? i know for a fact i have a few confs with nv's in them
[07:19] <nalioth> olicat: did you remove 2.4?
[07:19] <ouioui> hi
[07:19] <Xanadu> trevis it's a long shot but maybe your zend is looking for jvm rather than "java"
[07:19] <olicat> nalioth, nope, had them both.
[07:19] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyone know the hdparm -E command variables?
[07:20] <nalioth> olicat: that is funny. i've got 3 versions of python on my boxen and had no such trouble
[07:20] <olicat> nalioth, was getting errors in the console like "gtk not installed - even when python-2.3 pygtk was added
[07:20] <olicat> strange. i'll add it then :)
[07:20] <Xanadu> trevis it's a long shot but maybe your zend is looking for jvm rather than "java"
[07:20] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: just check and pastebin the first found one
[07:21] <trevis_> Xanadu, how would i install jvm then?
[07:21] <trevis_> java version "1.4.2"
[07:21] <trevis_> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[07:21] <olicat> cheers
[07:21] <kbrooks> trevis_: long shot: a symbolic link
[07:21] <nalioth> trevis: uninstall all the gnu java crap and go here
[07:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell trevis about javadeb
[07:21] <kbrooks> nalioth: is gnu java really crap?
[07:22] <nalioth> kbrooks: it doesnt work very well, if at all
[07:22] <kbrooks> nalioth: what do you mean
[07:22] <nalioth> kbrooks: programs wont work with it, imho
[07:22] <ouioui> i want to install the latest nvidia driver 1.0-7676 downloaded on nvidia's page
[07:22] <kbrooks> nalioth: like what?
[07:22] <tyler_durden> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2933
[07:22] <ouioui> because there aren't on apt-get
[07:23] <nalioth> kbrooks: whatever trevis is running, azureus, limewire, etc
[07:23] <ouioui> someone can help me
[07:23] <s3[mn] rain> Whenever I try to run kmenuedit from the terminal, It runs fine, but the terminal says "ERROR: Communication problem with kmenuedit, it probably crashed.
[07:23] <s3[mn] rain> ", and I am unable to delete anything from the menu, why is that?
[07:23] <tyler_durden> kbrooks, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2933
[07:23] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: OK. perfect.
[07:24] <sal> i will need help again =(
[07:24] <bobbyd_> shinu: no problemo
[07:24] <tyler_durden> sal
[07:24] <Xanadu> you get the info from uboto trevis?
[07:24] <fredforfaen> sal whats up?
[07:24] <tyler_durden> in reconfigure set it to vesa, itll work but then u can try to instsall the drivers again
[07:24] <lui> hello people
[07:24] <Xanadu> hello lui
[07:24] <mvirkkil> Who's working on dotUbuntu?
[07:24] <fredforfaen> hi lui
[07:24] <bmaurer> guys, can anyone repro http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17399 on breezy
[07:25] <bmaurer> all you need is a music cd
[07:25] <mvirkkil> Or where can I find out about dotUbuntu?
[07:25] <sal> now i'm tired to switch to windows everytime...   i think i'm will try to get bitchx but...  dont remmember how to do.....    ???  apt-get bithcx /install ???
[07:25] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: now...
[07:25] <bytefoo> sudo apt-get install bitchx
[07:25] <fredforfaen> sal listen to bytefoo
[07:25] <olicat> hi all, i'm tryin to install postgres, but when i run initdb, i get:  error while loading shared libraries: libtermcap.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:25] <Jeromee> what dotUbuntu?
[07:26] <starscalling_> !tell starscalling_ about audigy
[07:26] <Xanadu> olicat u install from apt?
[07:26] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:26] <lui> I have an Athlon XP 2000+ but when I put in the panel the CPU Frecuency Monitor it doesn't show nothing, why?
[07:26] <sal> i try to find it with aptitude but... never find it
[07:26] <mvirkkil> Jeromee: A network identity for ubuntu users.
[07:26] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: what does it say in 'Installed:'
[07:26] <nalioth> sal: you might enjoy irssi, also
[07:26] <sal> thanx Bytefoo
[07:26] <lon3tree> HI Windex
[07:26] <fredforfaen> sal well do this ; sudo apt-get install bitchx
[07:26] <lon3tree> hi pple
[07:26] <lon3tree> i need help
[07:27] <tyler_durden> kbrroks, apt-get gives me problems, i changed some links in a file, ill give u the outcome but its kinda messed up
[07:27] <lui> have an idea, Xanadu?
[07:27] <sal> nalioth can i use irssi in console or only in x
[07:27] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: apt-cache not apt-get
[07:27] <fredforfaen> sal console
[07:27] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: they arent the same
[07:27] <Xanadu> lui i think because the frequency monitor on the panel measures for processors that change frequency
[07:27] <sal> because in x i still have a  ''NO SCREEN FOUND'' problem
[07:27] <Xanadu> lui like mobile processors with xscale
[07:27] <tyler_durden> well i copy pasted, youll see
[07:27] <tyler_durden> kbrooks http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2934
[07:28] <satori> hi guys..  would anyone have some wisdom on why apt-get install xfonts-artwiz doesnt allow me to use the fonts.  ive done  dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig to enable bitmapped fonts etc
[07:28] <hondje> can you use the DisplaySize argument in Xorg.conf and the vert/horiz at the same time?
[07:28] <nalioth> sal: irssi is a console irc client and you already have it installed
[07:28] <lui> Xanadu, oh, ok thx
[07:28] <starscalling_> !tell starscalling_ about codecs
[07:28] <Stricklin> Okay, so it wasn't as bad as I'd thought
[07:28] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: sounds like you need to reinstall nvidia-glx.
[07:28] <Xanadu> lui if you want to see what your processor is up to try the system monitor applet
[07:28] <sal> oh ...... thanx nalioth....    i'm very sorry...   I have everything to learn about linux and ubungtu
[07:28] <tyler_durden> i did, it doesnt help any
[07:29] <nalioth> sal: no apologies necessary. we are all learning
[07:29] <Xanadu> lui if you want to see what your processor is up to (in real time) type "top" in a console
[07:30] <sal> Yeah sure nalioth ... it's my first day..... IM really lost
[07:30] <lon3tree> hi again
[07:31] <lon3tree> can someone help me on pptp?
[07:31] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: are you on warty? hoary? breezy?
[07:31] <tyler_durden> breezy
[07:31] <sal> okay thanx... i'm gonna go in irssi    be back with ya soon
[07:31] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: okay.
[07:32] <lon3tree> is there anyone that can help me on setting up pptp server?
[07:32] <lui> Xanadu, not really, I just want it to show the frecuency to nothing really :P
[07:32] <fredforfaen> lon3tree im sorry i have no clue
[07:32] <lon3tree> thanks
[07:32] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: this is strange, nvidia always worked for me.
[07:32] <lon3tree> anyone can help?
[07:32] <tyler_durden> well heres the sotry kbrooks
[07:32] <lui> Xanadu, thanks anyway :)
[07:32] <olicat> does breezy not have /etc/ld.so.conf?
[07:33] <Xanadu> lui np
[07:33] <kbrooks> olicat: it has it
[07:33] <tyler_durden> first i installed the nvidia with apt-get, everything worked, then i uninstalled so i can install older drivers, i had many problems with the older drivers so i tried installing the new ones again and this is where i am
[07:33] <olicat> kbrooks,  dont have it here, is it part of a package?
[07:33] <tyler_durden> i tyhink what would work for sure is if i removed EVERYTHING nvidia on my computer but i dont know how
[07:33] <dmoyne> hello ! ; I have succeded in installing my users under LDAP but now I want to install also my addressbook underLDAP ; has anyone done successfully so ; thanks
[07:33] <lon3tree> anyone?
[07:34] <olicat> or can i just create it?
[07:34] <Xanadu> tyler_durden did u read the docs that come with the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site?
[07:34] <tyler_durden> yes
[07:34] <satori> no help for artwiz fonts in breezy?
[07:34] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: what is the dir u d/led the drivers to?
[07:34] <sal> alright
[07:34] <tyler_durden> desktop
[07:34] <sal> irssi
[07:34] <fredforfaen> sal coolness
[07:34] <sal> yup yup
[07:34] <fredforfaen> :P
[07:35] <lon3tree> nobody?
[07:36] <Xanadu> tyler_durden what directories do you have under /usr/src?
[07:36] <Stricklin> gnomebaker! That's what it's called.
[07:36] <sal> why linux have a lot of trouble with dell computer
[07:36] <Xanadu> lon3tree what's the question?
[07:36] <Xanadu> sal cause it's dell. Duh! ;P
[07:36] <fredforfaen> sal does it?
[07:36] <ThunderbirdSix> Need help setting up a D-Link card for Ubuntu. If anyone has a moment I've posted output here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=397005#post397005 Thanks for any help!
[07:36] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: what older drivers did u dl
[07:36] <lui> tyler_durden, excuse me, you installed the nvidia-glx, right?
[07:36] <sal> hehehe
[07:36] <lon3tree> Xanadu , I managed to get connection to my pptp server (ubuntu) and pptpconfig on client
[07:36] <tyler_durden> ATI                     linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386  linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[07:36] <tyler_durden> linux-headers-2.6.12-9  linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686
[07:36] <fredforfaen> sal http://linux.dell.com/ read this
[07:36] <kbrooks> lui: he did
[07:37] <tyler_durden> oops srry i thought it would all be in one line
[07:37] <tyler_durden> lui yes i did
[07:37] <D1> anyone use turboprint?
[07:37] <tyler_durden> kbrooks i installed the 66's
[07:37] <lon3tree> but i can't see other pcs in my network except my pptp server -- Xanadu
[07:37] <sal> fredforfaen can i go read this in console cause i cant start X
[07:37] <lui> tyler_durden, have you changed in xorg.conf the driver "nv" for "nvidia"?
[07:37] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: 66* what replaces the *?
[07:37] <fredforfaen> well try using w3m
[07:37] <fredforfaen> well try using w3m sal !
[07:37] <tyler_durden> lui i have a few with nvidia and nv, neither works
[07:38] <sal> okay i'll try
[07:38] <tyler_durden> kbrooks let me check one second
[07:38] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: define doesnt work
[07:38] <Xanadu> tyler_durden first you gotta extract your linux kernel
[07:38] <fredforfaen> sal goof
[07:38] <fredforfaen> sal good
[07:38] <tyler_durden> xserver wont start
[07:38] <fredforfaen> lol
[07:38] <sal> hahaha
[07:38] <fredforfaen> im stoned again
[07:38] <shinu> can i get mplayer to tell me what version it is?
[07:38] <tyler_durden> xanadu how do i extract?
[07:38] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: why? did you get the full error?
[07:38] <tyler_durden> xserver? just the regular errot hat it cant start
[07:38] <albacker> mplayer --version  : shinu
[07:39] <tyler_durden> kbrroks 6629's
[07:39] <lon3tree> Xanadu?
[07:39] <Xanadu> tyler_durden have to look it up
[07:39] <Xanadu> lon3tree soz don't use pptp server - what does it do?
[07:39] <lui> tyler_durden, you upgraded to breezy, right?
[07:39] <tyler_durden> but xanadu, i gave up on them, i couldnt even get them installed and now the new ones wont isntall
[07:39] <tyler_durden> yes lui
[07:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tyler_durden about cli
[07:39] <tyler_durden> not upgraded, fresh install
[07:39] <lon3tree> What do you mean Xanadu?
[07:39] <shinu> albacker: there is no --version but mplayer shows its version everytime its starts :P
[07:40] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: not very detailed. look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old (if it exists) and/or /var/log/Xorg.0.log for 'nvidia' or 'NVIDIA'
[07:40] <albacker> shinu, ok :)
[07:40] <Jeromee> is there anyway to install ubuntu without gnome?
[07:40] <sal> damn....
[07:40] <Jeromee> like... just console?
[07:40] <Stricklin> gnomebaker says I have no plug-in for mp3s. Advice?
[07:41] <sal> i'm not goof ... i'm stupid
[07:41] <nalioth> Jeromee: yes, choose server install and then add what you like or install kubuntu
[07:41] <Xanadu> tyler_durden: cd /usr/src
[07:41] <fredforfaen> sal whats up?
[07:41] <Jeromee> nalioth: thanks :-D
[07:41] <thingy> tyler_durden, are you are using an nvidia card with a LCD display, and are getting a black screen/no picture when X starts? I missed the description of your problem.
[07:41] <sal> how to make a stop when we want to see all the instruction
[07:41] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: nvidia-installer --uninstall
[07:41] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: then reinstall it
[07:41] <tyler_durden> kbrooks http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2935
[07:41] <lui> tyler_durden, breezy gives me troubles, not only with that, my keyboard didn't work and I couldn't log in, no cure. I had to step back to hoary
[07:41] <fredforfaen> sal i dont understand...
[07:41] <Xanadu> tyler_durden: sudo tar -xvjf linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[07:42] <tyler_durden> thingy, xserver wouldnt start
[07:42] <sal> i write W3m and them a lot of thing appear .... but there was too much for my screen...  i want to see what was written in the beggining
[07:42] <tyler_durden> kbrooks, nvidia-installer --uninstall is not found
[07:42] <nalioth> sal: w3m | more
[07:42] <fredforfaen> ok sal try using page up and down
[07:42] <sal> |more
[07:43] <sal> page up .... down
[07:43] <tyler_durden> xanadu, gives me a 4 line error
[07:43] <fredforfaen> lol sal
[07:43] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2935 -- is that the .old or the latest log file?
[07:43] <sal> alright thanx you 2 i'll try
[07:43] <nalioth> sal: "w3m | more" is the whole command
[07:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sal about cli
[07:43] <fredforfaen> the buttins pg_up pg_down
[07:43] <Xanadu> tyler_durden: the tar command?
[07:43] <tyler_durden> its the latest
[07:43] <tyler_durden> kbrooks ^^
[07:43] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: try .old then
[07:43] <tyler_durden> yes xanadu
[07:43] <starscalling_> hrm,
[07:44] <x_madbot> hi, I have a problem with spca5xx drive (webcam) whic works well on slack, in ubuntu I have i crash with the follow message: "kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal Exception in interrupt"
[07:44] <lon3tree> there are so many pple here, but none can help me on my pptp setup?
[07:44] <starscalling_> is there a seperate codec package now and no w32codecs?
[07:44] <Xanadu> tyler_durden: sudo tar xvjf linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2 (without the -)
[07:44] <nalioth> lon3tree: it seems so. have you been to the wiki?
[07:44] <tyler_durden> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2936 kbrooks
[07:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell starscalling_ about w32codecs
[07:44] <lon3tree> link?
[07:44] <jeff_> Is inkscape available for breezy?
[07:44] <nalioth> lon3tree: wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:44] <Belutz> nalioth, do you have time to take a look at this http://belutz.pastebin.com/388268 ? thanks in advance :)
[07:44] <lon3tree> none mention
[07:45] <tyler_durden> xanadu what do you mean without the -? just one word?
[07:45] <Xanadu> tyler_durden: sudo tar xvjf linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[07:45] <lui> is there a way to upgrade to gnome 2.12 without upgrade to breezy?
[07:45] <nalioth> Belutz: i've no idea what you are doing there
[07:45] <tyler_durden> it still gives me that error
[07:45] <jeff_> lui: No
[07:45] <tyler_durden> one second ill show u
[07:45] <Belutz> nalioth, so am i, it's a cron report i think
[07:45] <tyler_durden> xanadu http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2937
[07:46] <Belutz> Seveas, you there?
[07:46] <nalioth> lui: no there is not
[07:46] <Xanadu> cd /usr/src
[07:46] <fredforfaen> nalioth cant he compile it?
[07:46] <tyler_durden> ohh
[07:46] <satori> ubotu: tell satori about w32codecs
[07:46] <lui> man, that's the only thing I want
[07:46] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: for nv, looks like it couldnt find a screen.
[07:46] <nalioth> fredforfaen: can he compile what?
[07:46] <jeff_> who is the maintainer of the Add Applications Program? It is missing Inkscape
[07:46] <kbrooks> nalioth: 2.12
[07:47] <fredforfaen> yeah
[07:47] <fredforfaen> 2.12
[07:47] <tyler_durden> xanadu, its download/installing )whichever). kbrooks how come? it could find them before i tried messing witht he older drivers
[07:47] <jeff_> lui: Breezy is very stable, I've been running it for a week now on a desktop and 2 laptops
[07:47] <Seveas> Belutz, yes
[07:47] <nalioth> adding gnome 2.12 to hoary will in effect get you breezy, because many of the dependencies are far advanced of hoary
[07:47] <Xanadu> tyler_durden: once it's done, type: sudo ln -fs /usr/src/linux /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12
[07:47] <Belutz> Seveas, do you know what happened with this http://belutz.pastebin.com/388268
[07:47] <x_madbot> anyone knows about kernel panic when using v4L and spca5xx (webcam) ?
[07:47] <fredforfaen> nalioth thanx good info
[07:47] <starscalling_> thankyou nalioth !!!!!!!!11
[07:48] <kbrooks> nalioth: far too advanced for hoary, you mean. :)
[07:48] <Xanadu> tyler_durden now you should be able to run the install files that you downloaded from nvidia and it should build your drivers and install them correctly
[07:48] <starscalling_> silly question:
[07:48] <tyler_durden> awesome xanadu, ill try that. kbrooks i guess ill brb :D
[07:48] <nalioth> kbrooks: the libs required for 2.12 basically bring you to breezy level
[07:48] <starscalling_> if i install something like vlc, how can i make it my default player? hoary seems to complain about it a lot :P
[07:48] <kbrooks> starscalling_: ask it, dont announce
[07:48] <kbrooks> nalioth: true that
[07:49] <fangorious> i seem to have lost my graphical boot, anyone know where I should look to get it back?
[07:49] <nalioth> starscalling_: system > prefs > preffered applications
[07:49] <starscalling_> thanx again nalioth
[07:49] <Seveas> Belutz, not a clue :)
[07:49] <RockyBurt> anyone know how to delete files in a nautilus window withing having to move to trash first?
[07:49] <Belutz> Seveas, hmm ok
[07:49] <bytefoo> whats the hotkeys to open terminal :/
[07:49] <hwaara> can I login from another computer on my ubuntu installation on this computer?
[07:49] <nalioth> Belutz: you should leave now. you've stumped 2 of us.....
[07:49] <Seveas> bytefoo, you can set one
[07:49] <fangorious> RockyBurt, in the preferences you can select to have a Delete menu item
[07:49] <Belutz> nalioth, hehehe
[07:50] <nalioth> hwaara: yes you can, install openssh-server
[07:50] <weiers> Hi, I mounted a fat32 partition with a great amount of my working data, but I cannot get the ownership set so that I can read and write to the drive. My files all open up as read-only. When I type: sudo chown weiers.weiers /wcwin -R, I just get a message operation not permitted. What do I need to do to allow the operation to be permitted?
[07:50] <Seveas> bytefoo, system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[07:50] <fangorious> RockyBurt, or you can probably just do shift+del
[07:50] <rubem> Hi there
[07:50] <DaN_SoLo> Hi, beep media player and others (except music player) block with my onboard soundcard... no sound in UT2k4 also... cant figure out why :/
[07:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell weiers about mountwindows
[07:50] <Seveas> weiers, chown does not work on fat, use correct mount options
[07:50] <hwaara> nalioth, and this will be graphical? I don't want to access it using the terminal. I want to login, as if I was using the computer
[07:50] <Seveas> DaN_SoLo: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[07:50] <ubuntuuser697> hi could anyone help, how do i find out where perl is installed?
[07:50] <rubem> I've just instaled my ubuntu system, 5.04, which are the apt repos that I should have????
[07:50] <nalioth> hwaara: you can use vnc or xforwading
[07:50] <Seveas> ubuntuuser697, /usr/bin/perl
[07:50] <DaN_SoLo> Seveas :o duh me :x ill try that
[07:51] <DaN_SoLo> thanks
[07:51] <ubuntuuser697> k so when i have a perl scrip
[07:51] <hwaara> nalioth, but vnc is more or less just sending images of the other computer no? :)  I want to login to my other computer but use the computer power in this computer
[07:51] <ubuntuuser697> thats what should be at the top
[07:51] <theintern> ubuntuuser697: "which perl"
[07:51] <ubuntuuser697> exactly!
[07:51] <Seveas> ubuntuuser697, #!/usr/bin/env perl -w
[07:51] <RockyBurt> fangorious: ah nice, thanks ... the dumb thing is that on a mounted compactflash card (or other flash card too most likely) you can't actually delete the files using nautilus unless you use such a menu item
[07:51] <ubuntuuser697> k thankk ill give that a go
[07:51] <nalioth> hwaara: then use xforwarding
[07:51] <Xanadu> tyler_durden how'd it go?
[07:51] <RockyBurt> because the files don't go to the normal trash bin, so there's no way to empty the flash card trash bin
[07:51] <fangorious> RockyBurt, glad I could help
[07:51] <rabello> If I have multiple kbd's in gnome, how to make one stick to an app? Eg, evo always to work with international english, while terminal with plain?
[07:52] <fangorious> anyone know how to enable the graphical boot sequence? I think I lost it after a recent kernel upgrade
[07:52] <rubem> which are the apt repos that I should have????
[07:52] <tyler_durden> xanadu, it didnt work, same error that it couldnd build it
[07:52] <GreenDot> hey kids, i need some help here, and my prediciment is kind of difficult to cope with, so if you are willing to help, then we will try:  i'm evacuated, my OSX crashed (thanks to my sister) and all i have is this LiveCD of Ubuntu for PPC.  I'm trying to find a way to install Ubuntu temporarily until I get home to my OSX dvds and whatnot. I do not have an external CDrom drive, so i have no way of burning an installer disk
[07:52] <tyler_durden> right at 100% of the intsall
[07:52] <Xanadu> tyler_durden please paste the error
[07:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell weiers about windowsdrives
[07:52] <tyler_durden> i cant, its in recovery mode
[07:52] <Xanadu> tyler_durden also run the install as root (sudo)
[07:52] <hwaara> nalioth, ok great! so if I have fast computer A and I want to login using the preferences saved on computer B, I just use xforwarding ?
[07:53] <tyler_durden> i am root
[07:53] <tyler_durden> it only works in recovery mode
[07:53] <tyler_durden> i cant run it if gnome is runnign because it says xserver is runnign and that i need to shut it odnw first
[07:53] <nalioth> hwaara: hwaara no. xforwarding uses the prefs on the powerful box you log into
[07:53] <fangorious> GreenDot, i thought you could install off the livecd, i'm looking for details
[07:53] <tyler_durden> it simply says it it could not build the kernl *something8
[07:54] <Xanadu> GreenDot u cannot install off the live cd :(
[07:54] <GreenDot> i know, but i found something about bootstrapping to a hard drive partition but the LiveCD doesn't have the bootstrap command
[07:54] <fangorious> GreenDot, what version of Ubuntu is on the livecd?
[07:54] <dseomn> how can I report a (wishlist) bug on the ubuntu mailing lists?
[07:54] <Xanadu> tyler_durden type "sudo killall gdm" in a terminal and then go and run the install
[07:54] <GreenDot> the latest one on their download page
[07:55] <ubuntuuser697> just tried that and in the logs its says " /usr/bin/env: perl -w\r: No such file or directory"
[07:55] <GreenDot> 5.10
[07:55] <Xanadu> GreenDot once you load up on the live CD you can mount existing drives if you just need to get info off of the max
[07:55] <Xanadu> mac even
[07:56] <seife> How do i install the content of  a .tar.gz file
[07:56] <pupil> I am filling out an online form,. but my browser does not fit the requirements,  Ithink it needs 128 bit encryption, or it has to be netscape,. how do I remedy this?
[07:56] <dseomn> seife: is it a source or binary tarball?
[07:56] <Xanadu> seife first extract it
[07:56] <dseomn> pupil: firefox has 128 bit encryption
[07:57] <GreenDot> Xanadu, i have already backed up my stuff to my external hard drive
[07:57] <Xanadu> seife then cd to the directory and type ./configure
[07:57] <seife> I dunno :/
[07:57] <Xanadu> seife make
[07:57] <nalioth> pupil: install "mozilla-psm"
[07:57] <pupil> dseomn, I am using firefox
[07:57] <Xanadu> seife sudo make install
[07:57] <dseomn> Xanadu: those are only for source tarballs, not binaries
[07:57] <silasj> hello all
[07:57] <pupil> nalioth, will do
[07:57] <dseomn> pupil: is it a public form (i.e. can you give us the url)?
[07:57] <seife> that doesnt works
[07:57] <silasj> have anybody installed gnome-art ?
[07:58] <Xanadu> dseomn true
[07:58] <GreenDot> Xanadu, can i copy the CDROM contents to a hard drive partition and use Yaboot to point to that partition to load, that way i can load the LiveCD from the hard drive, therefore freeing up my CD drive to burn an installer disk?
[07:58] <Xanadu> seife better idea: extract and then read the readme
[07:58] <dseomn> seife: or INSTALL or any other file in all caps
[07:58] <JDigital> Hello, chums. What's a PDF viewer that will let me print only even pages, or only odd pages?
[07:58] <pupil> dseomn,  ttp://www100.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca/ae-ei/dem-app/english/home2.html#Basic
[07:59] <JDigital> xpdf won't
[07:59] <hwaara> nalioth, I seem to have both xauth and xhost on both my computers. are they integrated in GNOME or ubuntu somehow?
[07:59] <JDigital> I want to print pages on the back of each other like in a book
[07:59] <Xanadu> GreenDot you should be able to make it an iso and then mount it as a loop device and then do something funky to change to that dir structure
[07:59] <whispers_of_clay> JDigital, tried evince?
[07:59] <dseomn> hwaara: they work at the X level, so they'll work with gnome/ubuntu
[08:00] <tyler_durden> xanadu
[08:00] <tyler_durden> here are the exact errors
[08:00] <JDigital> I will try evince, thanks
[08:01] <nalioth> hwaara: i believe they are part of the xserver
[08:01] <hwaara> dseomn, that's great! now I only have to figure out exactly where I enable the server, and where I login
[08:01] <dseomn> pupil: they don't allow GNU/Linux users
[08:01] <Xanadu> tyler_durden where?
[08:01] <kbrooks> what dpes wget stand for?
[08:01] <dseomn> pupil: you should complain to them and in the meantime spoof as IE on windows
[08:01] <nalioth> hwaara: ask uncle googla "xforwarding ssh howto"
[08:01] <dseomn> kbrooks: web get
[08:01] <kbrooks> dseomn: i see
[08:02] <pupil> pupil, I don't have windows
[08:02] <GreenDot> so how would i mount it as a loop device?
[08:02] <pupil> dseomn, I have to install netscape
[08:02] <tyler_durden> 1st error:no precompiled kernek found, 2nd: no precompiled kernel interface, 3rd: your kernel was configured to iclude rivafb which could cause problems, 4th: at 100% it says unable to build the nvidia kernel module, 5th installation failed, and it forces me to quit
[08:02] <starscalling_> !tell starscalling_ about nvidea
[08:02] <nalioth> pupil: did the mozilla-psm help you?
[08:02] <dseomn> pupil: it still won't work "We limit our support to Windows and Macintosh"
[08:02] <kbrooks> pupil: no u dont have to
[08:02] <nalioth> starscalling_: do that in a /msg windows pleases
[08:02] <albacker> guys, i installed w32codecs, and have totem.. how can i play avi files. there is an error like " no decoder found "
[08:02] <nalioth> starscalling_: ubotu has told you how to do it
[08:02] <hwaara> nalioth, :)
[08:02] <hwaara> nalioth, we're trying...
[08:03] <dseomn> pupil: you just need them to /think/ you're using netscape or similar on windows
[08:03] <pupil> dseomn, I wouldn't know how to do that
[08:03] <Hendric> someone here taught me on what to "apt-get" to be able to play video streams on firefox (wmv, mpg etc..) can someone here tell me here? aside from mplayer
[08:03] <dseomn> pupil: I'm looking for how to do it
[08:03] <kbrooks> pupil: user agent
[08:03] <nalioth> pupil search for "user agent" on the firefox extension page
[08:03] <pupil> kbrooks, what is user agent
[08:03] <kbrooks> pupil: er, user-agent header. it can be spoofed and isnt reliable
[08:04] <Xanadu> tyler_durden there are some options you can pass nvidia-install.sh (or whatever it's called) - one of them allows you to point to the kernel. You'll have to look up which one (I don't have an nvidia card). Use that flag and point it to /usr/src/linux
[08:04] <kbrooks> FYI
[08:04] <pupil> nalioth, I restarted mozilla,. no dice
[08:04] <GreenDot> Xanadu, how do i mount an ISO image as a loop device?
[08:04] <nalioth> pupil: it is what your browser reports it is to websites
[08:04] <albacker> guys how can i play avi files with totem ? what do i need ? i have W32CODECS ! !
[08:04] <starscalling_> kk
[08:04] <pupil> nalioth, why can't i simply use netscape,.m
[08:04] <nalioth> pupil: mozilla-psm works on all gecko browsers you have installed
[08:04] <pupil> nalioth, cause it says I can use netscape
[08:04] <fangorious> i'm having trouble with samba. I have a dual-boot windows/ubuntu with a shared fat32 partition. there's a folder on that partition which I share. with windows booted, I can browse it from other [windows]  machines no problem. but with ubuntu booted, I get password prompts that just fail. I've run sudo smbpasswd -a for all the users so it shouldn't be that. the share is marked public and browseable in /etc/smb.conf. not sure what to
[08:04] <fangorious>  look at next
[08:04] <nalioth> pupil: b/c it reports its name in the user agent string
[08:04] <tyler_durden> xanadu im really new, i dont evne know what a kernel is, i dont know what flag and how to point and then what to od, its pretty useless now i supposed.. ill just format once breezy final comes out
[08:04] <dseomn> albacker: try gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[08:05] <nalioth> pupil: just go to the extensions page and find the "user agent" one
[08:05] <redmonkey> hi. is there a command to list all mp3 files in a directory with the bitrates?
[08:05] <albacker> dseomn, ok, . . . ill try that.
[08:05] <pupil> nalioth, the website says I can use netscape,. on the faqs page
[08:05] <Xanadu> tyler_durden hang on i'll have a look at the docs in a minute and tell you what to do
[08:05] <digis___> damn, gnome speed in breezy sucks, it is so damn lazy, and nautilus keeps crashing and crashing, hoary was a little bit faster and more stable :/
[08:05] <albacker> dseomn, E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[08:05] <whispers_of_clay> digip1mp, not seeing that here
[08:06] <dseomn> pupil: netscape on windows or mac, not linus
[08:06] <dseomn> *linux
[08:06] <tyler_durden> xanadu, no need, i appreciate it but i guess its better to start off from scratch, i wont have any other problems that way
[08:06] <nalioth> pupil: what was the site again?
[08:06] <whispers_of_clay> redmonkey, http://freshmeat.net and look for a package to do that
[08:06] <pupil> http://www100.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca/ae-ei/dem-app/english/home2.html#Basic
[08:06] <Xanadu> GreenDot: make a directory where u want to mount it (like /mnt/temp)
[08:06] <pupil> nalioth, http://www100.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca/ae-ei/dem-app/english/home2.html#Basic
[08:06] <dseomn> pupil: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=59
[08:06] <shinu> most of the files (say, xine) in /usr/bin are not a link to files in /usr/local/bin right?
[08:06] <starscalling_> heh i fail again! how about nvidia codecs please to get my vid card working?
[08:06] <Xanadu> tyler_durden i think you've probably learnt a lot and when you're ready you'll figure out the nvidia install (which has never been easy)
[08:06] <kbrooks> shinu: /usr/local is for you
[08:07] <dseomn> albacker: do you have universe (and possibly multiverse) enabled?
[08:07] <Xanadu> tyler_durden it's worth it in the end - 3d graphics really rock with it installed
[08:07] <albacker> yes  : dseomn
[08:07] <nalioth> pupil read my text. go to the firefox extensions page and get the user agent switcher
[08:07] <tyler_durden> well i had them installed before, then like i said i uninstalled and tried messing with the 66's which after them i couldnt get the new ones to install again
[08:07] <shinu> kbrooks: so i should probably just cp /usr/bin/something to /usr/local/bin right? not ln -s it?
[08:07] <dseomn> albacker: are you on hoary?
[08:07] <pupil> nalioth, ok
[08:07] <albacker> dseomn, no, ... hmm thats the problem.
[08:07] <dseomn> warty?
[08:07] <albacker> sorry, thats the problem :)
[08:07] <nalioth> pupil: switch your user agent string to 'windows 98' or some such perfidy
[08:07] <shinu> kbrooks: cause i just installed mplayer and it didnt put a file it local
[08:07] <Xanadu> GreenDot: sudo mount /mnt/temp -t iso9660 -o loop (I think)
[08:08] <whispers_of_clay> tyler_durden, use the 7667 drivers
[08:08] <Bad_Magic> !java
[08:08] <ubotu> well, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[08:08] <nalioth> pupil: continue with those wretched people
[08:08] <albacker> dseomn, i dont have universe and|or multiverse
[08:08] <Aven> yo
[08:08] <dseomn> albacker: oh, ok
[08:08] <Xanadu> GreenDot: ls /mnt/temp and make sure it actually mounted
[08:08] <tyler_durden> thats what i used at first whipers_of_clay but i removed them so i can try the 66's whicfh have better performance on my FX card
[08:08] <Aven> alright, I installed apache and I went to the /var/www directory to edit files, etc. but it doesn't allow me to...
[08:08] <pupil> nalioth, I installed it,. but I don't know how to use it
[08:08] <mock> I am having troubles with an USB-stick ... ubuntu mounts it twice, once as /dev/sda1 (the right one) ... and a second time /dev/sda (obviously wrong) ...
[08:08] <dseomn> pupil: restart firefox
[08:09] <weiers> nalioth, thank you very much for the bash script. It seems I have access to my Fat32 drive, and it mounted my NTFS partion as well, although that one is only read only. Can I now rename the drives to be more descriptive of what I use them for?
[08:09] <Xanadu> Aven you gotta do it as root
[08:09] <cyrill> Szevasztok
[08:09] <whispers_of_clay> tyler_durden, I don't know if those work on breezy, sorry, I do know 7667 works.
[08:09] <thingy> tyler_durden, Did you try running xorg using startx?
[08:09] <Aven> Xanadu: yes, but how do I login as root?
[08:09] <tyler_durden> no i didnt thingy, how do i do that?
[08:09] <dseomn> Aven: don't log in as root, use sudo
[08:09] <Xanadu> Aven to run a command as root, type "sudo mycommand", then your password
[08:09] <cyrill> Magyar van itt valaki?
[08:09] <nalioth> weiers: see "man fstab"
[08:09] <kbrooks> shinu: c[ oy
[08:09] <tyler_durden> whipsers_of_clay i have a feeling they dont.. why though?
[08:09] <kbrooks> cp it
[08:09] <Aven> hmm
[08:09] <nalioth> weiers: or symlink the mounted drives into your home folder with names YOU like
[08:10] <whispers_of_clay> tyler_durden, you have a brand spankin' new kernel and you're trying to load old drivers on it.
[08:10] <Xanadu> Aven if you want to be in root for a while, type "sudo -s" and then you'll be root. Type "exit" to go back to usual user
[08:10] <Aven> ah
[08:10] <Aven> so I have to keep Terminal open?
[08:10] <thingy> tyler_durden, If you nvidia drivers are still installed and your xorg.conf file is good...just hold down CTRL+ALT and press F1 (example) and on the login screen enter your username/password and then type in "startx" at the bash prompt
[08:10] <tyler_durden> can you explain what a kernel is? i dont know
[08:10] <dseomn> tyler_durden: it's the lowest level part of the OS
[08:10] <Xanadu> Aven if you make a directory under /var/www and you want to make it easier to edit files etc, type "sudo chown aven:aven /var/www/mydirectory -R" which makes you the owner of that directory
[08:10] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: Its the thing that loads when you boot your computer
[08:11] <_jason> hey question in portuguese channel about changing languages in hoary.  I changed mine in breezy to see what has to be done.  But user says there is no langauge selector in Administration menu like in Breezy.  Is there an equivalent in hoary?  Thanks
[08:11] <dseomn> tyler_durden: it controls hardware and works with everything else on the computer
[08:11] <GreenDot> Xanadu can i access this image from the yaboot command line?
[08:11] <dbzdeath> redmonkey: afaik there is no default command... maybe there is a program that has been made which can do that.... but you can list all mp3 files easily... but not the bitrate of them.... ls | grep *.mp3 ought to do it
[08:11] <oxez> I installed Apache/whois cjohnson
[08:11] <oxez> wo
[08:11] <oxez> what a bad copy paste, sorry
[08:11] <tyler_durden> is it something liike trying to install drivers on windows 98 while they were meant to work on windows xp?
[08:11] <pupil> nalioth, I have restarted firefox,. like three times,. still no extension
[08:11] <dseomn> _jason: nope, sorry, tell them to wait a week
[08:11] <Xanadu> tyler_durden the kernel is the most important part of the operating system (in this case Linux). It basically is the operating system and everything else runs on top of it.
[08:11] <_jason> dseomn:  ok
[08:11] <redmonkey> dbzdeath, ok, thanks!
[08:11] <mock> ... trying to open the open the "disk" from the desktop results in an unresponsive desktop ... can anyone tell me how to avoid the second mount
[08:11] <weiers> nalioth: I'll play around a bit. This has made my life very simple. I've read the manual pages on chown - but they did not tell me that it does not work on windows drives.
[08:12] <Xanadu> GreenDot I don't know yaboot I'm afraid but whatever it is I don't see why not
[08:12] <gtd> hi guys, when i import photos from my digicam, cannot Ubuntu get the orientation (landscape VS. portrait orientation) correct?
[08:12] <nalioth> weiers: just symlink the drives from /media to your $HOMEDIR and name the symlinks what you want. I use this method
[08:12] <jeff_>  How can I set the color palette to 14 colors so I can make a grub splashimage?
[08:12] <enyc> gtd: depends on the sessions of whatever program you are using -- ubuntu is not a photo management program
[08:12] <nalioth> pupil: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[08:12] <sal> Hey...
[08:12] <tyler_durden> thingy is startx the same as etc/init.d/gdm start?
[08:12] <GreenDot> yaboot is the PowerPC boot loader (since Grub doesn't have a PPC port i guess)
[08:12] <jeff_> *In the gimp*
[08:12] <enyc> gtd: SETTINGS even
[08:12] <Aven> Xanadu: alright, I did it.
[08:13] <Aven> but isn't it supposed to ask for the admin password?
[08:13] <Xanadu> gtd: it usually does depending on how clever your camera is. It works for Nikons
[08:13] <thingy> tyler_durden, no it isn't! Your problem is with GDM and so I believe startx will work for you. It will give you and X desktop basically.
[08:13] <Xanadu> Aven kewl
[08:13] <tyler_durden> ok ill try that thingy
[08:13] <Aven> ahh, it works now, thanks
[08:13] <kbrooks> Aven: your admin password is your first users passwd
[08:14] <thingy> tyler_durden, I just googled for your problem and there are a lost of hits but hardly any solutions to your problems.
[08:14] <gtd> enyc: i'm using the default ubuntu program that automatically opens up when my plugged in Canon Powershot is turned on. When I used Windows with the Canon Software, the pics were imported right side up all the time. My camera is clever. Like yours, it records how I held the camera when I snapped the shot.
[08:14] <Xanadu> tyler_durden is your gdm not starting right?
[08:15] <sal> i have a problem too with that
[08:15] <Whistler> what package do i need to take  a screenshot of my desktop?
[08:15] <sal> it,s written Server error... no screen found
[08:15] <JDigital> Hmm. evince won't give me the option to print only odd pages
[08:15] <kbrooks> Whistler: use print scree for full window
[08:15] <Xanadu> Whistler: System-> Take screenshot
[08:15] <frickel> could someone help me? everytime I reboot my ppp0 lost its information and gets the old entries---
[08:15] <Whistler> i do not use gnome
[08:15] <ray8685484883332> hi there ppl. could someone please give me a link to download 'easy ubuntu 2.2" - the one for Hoary - anyone?
[08:15] <gtd> gtd: do you know what program i'm talking about?
[08:15] <kbrooks> Whistler: alt+print screen for the current window
[08:16] <Xanadu> frickel edit your /etc/network/interfaces and put the right info in there
[08:16] <Whistler> i use icewm.Printscreen does nothing
[08:16] <ray8685484883332> i tried the forums but could only find 2.3  - the one for breazy
[08:16] <frickel> @Xandu I uses pppoeconf for it, but I try
[08:16] <Hendric> for HP all-in-one scanners... breezy supports it out of the box.. just a sudo modprob sg then you're up!
[08:16] <frickel> used
[08:16] <ray8685484883332> hi there ppl. could someone please give me a link to download 'easy ubuntu 2.2" - the one for Hoary - anyone?
[08:17] <Hendric> bye
[08:17] <dseomn> ray8685484883332: what's 'easy ubuntu 2.2'?
[08:17] <hosler> What is a good program that will organize my music collection?
[08:17] <Whistler> so how do i take  screenshot in icewm?
[08:17] <ray8685484883332> its a package of codecs, apps and media stuff
[08:17] <Xanadu> frickel oh then you want to look in /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf
[08:17] <gtd> enyc: The program that loads up is actually a dialog window titled "Warning." It goes on to read "Import Photos from Camera? There are photos on the plugged in camera. Would you like to import these photos into your photo album?"  do you know what program i'm talking about?I think it's gThumb.
[08:18] <starscalling> i am having trouble logging into ubuntu and just going vga _not_ x terminal.. how could one do something such as this?
[08:18] <dseomn> ray8685484883332: where did you get it from?
[08:18] <Xanadu> Whistler soz don't use Ice - I trade speed for pretty pictures ;)
[08:18] <kbrooks> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-64629.html
[08:18] <frickel> @Xanadu oh, ok
[08:18] <kbrooks> ray8685484883332: ^
[08:18] <kbrooks> found it
[08:18] <gtd> enyc: what program do you use to import photos?
[08:18] <Whistler> Xanadu i looks pretty too, just need a wright theme
[08:18] <shinu> kbrooks: sorry?
[08:18] <Whistler> Xanadu ice looks pretty too, just need a wright theme
[08:19] <frickel> @Xanadu /etc/ppp/peers/pppoe.conf ?
[08:19] <kbrooks> shinu: cp it
[08:19] <shinu> kbrooks: oh i see.. :P thanks
[08:19] <Xanadu> frickel: probably. I use roaring penguin dialer not Ubuntu's pppoe
[08:19] <Xanadu> Whistler: one day when i feel adventurous ;)
[08:20] <gtd> to all ubuntu users: what program do you use to import photos from your plugged-in digital camera?
[08:20] <enyc> gtd: I don't
[08:20] <frickel> @Xanadu should I change?
[08:20] <enyc> gtd: bt afte rlooking into this somewhat, I know there is 'f-spot' and some others...
[08:20] <thewayofzen> when i go to gnome-theme-manager to change theme in gnome it says starting theme in my toolbar and then it shuts down before it starts
[08:20] <enyc> gtd: tehres at least one program for gnome-integration and one program for kde-integration
[08:20] <Xanadu> frickel I use roaring penguin because i use iburst and it's easier to config. If pppoe is working then stick with it - just get the config right.
[08:21] <thewayofzen> using breezy .. broken gnome-theme manager.. how can i fix it?
[08:21] <Coques> hi, i`d like to install ubuntu instead of debian, is there any possibility to install it under lvm during new installation ?
[08:21] <frickel> @Xanadu the connection is fine but it gets lost every time I reboot
[08:21] <EasterSunshine> anyone here think that they have a huge filesize for their root filesystem (disincluding /home), how much space does it take up? i want to plan ahead before partitioning
[08:21] <frickel> @Xanadu then I need to reconfig with pppoeconf
[08:21] <Xanadu> frickel then stick with what you've got and find the right config file and change the config there
[08:22] <frickel> @Xanadu but it seems to be right
[08:22] <hosler> What is a good program that will organize my music collection?
[08:22] <steigweis> can anybody give me some advice about my sources.list? that would be great! -->  http://www.cheater-blacklist.de/nopaste/?326
[08:23] <nalioth> pupil: join #kubuntu-offtopic please we have your solution
[08:23] <Xanadu> frickel: if you want to try roaring penguin it's at http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/
[08:23] <mumbles> question - can i install ubuntu to my pen drive?
[08:23] <moparfan90> hello
[08:23] <nalioth> mumbles: if your drive is big enough
[08:23] <Xanadu> frickel: it's pretty easy to set up. Just extract it and type ./go-gui
[08:23] <mumbles> i got a one meg #
[08:23] <mumbles> gig
[08:23] <mumbles> even
[08:23] <thewayofzen> i cant figure out why ti says starting theme and never gets to the theme switch window
[08:23] <seth_k|lappy> steigweis, take out the hoary-backports line from mirrormax; it's not supported any more. other than that looks fine
[08:23] <thewayofzen> it worked in hoary.. breezy on the other hand isnt likeing gnome-theme-manager at all
[08:24] <nalioth> steigweis: /msg ubotu backports     for the new backports
[08:24] <steigweis> seth_k|lappy:  aha... thank you :)
[08:24] <EasterSunshine> a server install of ubuntu takes 279 megs
[08:24] <frickel> I try it
[08:24] <Upsetter> hosler:try rhythmbox or mabe the better solution her.... http://musik.berlios.de/
[08:25] <moparfan90> does anyone know a channel for halo mods? for the pc???
[08:25] <Xanadu> moparfan90 i think u might be in the wrong channel ;P
[08:25] <nalioth> pupil: did you get sorted?
[08:25] <Xanadu> in so many ways
[08:26] <Coques> pls guys any idea? run everything on lvm during new installation process?
[08:26] <moparfan90> i know im asking what channel it is and on what server i dont know
[08:26] <steigweis> nalioth: /msg ubuntu backports dos not give any results
[08:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell steigweis about backports
[08:27] <nalioth> steigweis: you need to register and identify your nick
[08:27] <Xanadu> moparfan90 this is the Ubuntu Linux channel - couldn't get further away from Microsoft Windowz Halo mods if you tried
[08:27] <steigweis> nalioth: ok, will do that. ty!
[08:27] <Xanadu> steigwes: type /msg nickserv register yourpassword
[08:27] <thewayofzen> does anyone know which package gnome-theme-manager is part of so i might remove and reinstall it hoping to fix how it wont work?
[08:27] <sal> hehehe
[08:28] <thewayofzen> surely theres something i can do
[08:28] <sal> i hope someday i will be able to help someone too
[08:28] <taotime> hey
[08:28] <taotime> anybody know about rhythmbox
[08:28] <sal> but now...
[08:28] <Xanadu> sal you definitely will, soon
[08:28] <InitMass> if i enter http://www.ensemblestudios.com/teaser.htm and click on "Click here for more Information" my firefox 1.0.7 dies every single time. i have spoken to several people who has the same problem. we are all using breezy and firefox 1.0.7. none of us have the time to file a bug report. but now you know guys
[08:28] <sal> i need to start X
[08:29] <tristanmike> what about rhythmbox?
[08:29] <taotime> thanxs, rhythmbox doesn't work
[08:29] <joetheodd> How do I change my bootloader to lilo?
[08:29] <Xanadu> taotime what about it doesn't work? does it not start?
[08:29] <taotime> i had debian installed and it worked fine internet radio and everything now i have ubuntu and internet radio doesn
[08:29] <taotime> doesn't work
[08:30] <inlivingcolour> hello everyone
[08:30] <taotime> if i click on a link it starts rhythmbox but i never hear the music
[08:30] <sal> evertyme i start X it's written no device detected...    No screen found
[08:30] <whispers_of_clay> taotime, I'm on breezy right now and the amaroK player is streaming internet radio
[08:30] <taotime> i tried to reinstall it
[08:30] <Xanadu> taotime you gotta install the gstreamer stuff
[08:30] <sal> do you have a hint.... for me
[08:30] <taotime> thanxs Xanadu but do u know how? is it apt-get install gstreamer
[08:30] <Xanadu> taotime you probably have a problem in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[08:31] <Xanadu> taotime i think u gotta enable your universe and multiverse repositories
[08:31] <inlivingcolour> i have a quick question.  im on breezy right now, and was root terminal and terminal both taken out of breezy?
[08:31] <looga> hey guys, gThumb can't seem to display thumbnails. Please refer to screenshot at http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot90dr.png. What should I do? It was working all right since today.
[08:31] <Xanadu> taotime then open synaptic and search for gstreamer and then select the ones you want
[08:31] <HYPOKRIT> use sudo inlivingcolour
[08:31] <HYPOKRIT> there is no root
[08:31] <taotime> i have done that enable universe and multiverse
[08:31] <RockyBurt> anyone been noticing that since gnome 2.12.1 release on breezy gnome has been acting somewhat unstable?
[08:31] <taotime> select which one
[08:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell HYPOKRIT about root
[08:31] <whispers_of_clay> RockyBurt, no
[08:32] <taotime> what about the x11 xorg.conf file
[08:32] <inlivingcolour> hypokrit, since im new to linux and ubuntu, where is sudo?
[08:32] <Xanadu> taotime they have descriptions - they're all for different stuff
[08:32] <taotime> ok xanadu
[08:32] <taotime> i will start it right now and see what it says
[08:32] <nalioth> introdoos: in your terminal
[08:32] <nalioth> inlivingcolour: in your terminal
[08:32] <Xanadu> taotime: sorry that x11 msg was for sal
[08:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell inlivingcolour about sudo
[08:33] <looga> hi guys, please help me.
[08:33] <Zadkiel> hola
[08:33] <Xanadu> taotime: one more note: once you've got the gstreamers you want, type "gst-register-0.8" to register all of them
[08:33] <Xanadu> hola Zadkiel
[08:33] <looga> and yes, i have already stated my problem. (gthumb won't display thumbnails correctly. See http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot90dr.png)
[08:34] <looga> Help Looga smile again.
[08:34] <Zadkiel> soy nuevo por aca
[08:34] <taotime> xanadu: i opened synaptics manager and it shows i have a whole lot of gstreamers installed
[08:34] <nalioth> !es
[08:34] <Zadkiel> en este canal hay de todo el mundo?
[08:34] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:34] <hubsi> Quancho
[08:35] <HYPOKRIT> how did i know wtf is my bus pci thing about my video card
[08:35] <taotime> xanadu:  i just finished installing ubuntu and i have not touched anything yet
[08:35] <fangorious> HYPOKRIT, run lspci
[08:35] <csthepoet> hey everyone
[08:35] <inlivingcolour> ty everyone
[08:35] <HYPOKRIT> thanx fangorious
[08:35] <Xanadu> taotime there should be some uninstalled gstreamers
[08:35] <taotime> xanadu :  do i type gst-register as root
[08:35] <Xanadu> taotime no just as a norm user
[08:36] <csthepoet> hey i'm dabating between two mp3 players, the iRiver 20G and the Samsung 20G, does anyone know which one would be best to purchase and good for linux?
[08:36] <taotime> xanadu : cool i will try it thanks
[08:36] <Rustvaar> i am hoping to find out about the protocols used, services provided, internetworking supported, clients supported or the network media supported, also about the minimum hardware requirements. can anyone help?
[08:36] <looga> Xanadu: hi
[08:36] <Xanadu> looga howzit
[08:36] <looga> gThumb can't seem to display thumbnails. Please refer to screenshot at http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot90dr.png. What should I do? It was working all right since today.
[08:36] <HatchetDawg> anyway to get glibc_2.3.4 running under hoary without making my system screw the pooch ... or should i just give up on gimpshop on ubuntu
[08:37] <HYPOKRIT> Hey fangorious .... i run lspci but everything seem to be UNKNOW STUFF
[08:37] <Whistler> does male mean man ?
[08:37] <Xanadu> looga it looks pretty screwed ;)
[08:37] <taotime> xanadu: i just tried the as a normal user and it says "Loaded 150 plugins with 298 features"
[08:37] <looga> Xanadu: what must i do?
[08:38] <Xanadu> looga: um, see if it works?
[08:38] <looga> Xanadu: Huh?
[08:38] <csthepoet> Anyone know of any good mp3 players?
[08:38] <Xanadu> looga try it and see if it works now
[08:38] <Xanadu> csthepoet xmms is cool
[08:38] <mock> @csthepoet: IT'S called xmms
[08:38] <HappyFool> csthepoet: beep-media-player isn't too bad
[08:38] <Xanadu> looga do you know what type of stream it is that isn't working?
[08:39] <looga> Xanadu: gThumb is a picture viewer.
[08:39] <csthepoet> i've never heard of any of those
[08:39] <csthepoet> how much do they hold
[08:39] <looga> Xanadu: It is NOT a audio/video player.
[08:39] <HappyFool> oh, hardware
[08:39] <HappyFool> heh
[08:39] <Xanadu> arg talking to too many ppl getting confuzed!
[08:39] <HatchetDawg> csthepoet: xmms or xine-ui have been my usual choices
[08:39] <Xanadu> looga: tried reinstalling gthumb?
[08:39] <csthepoet> wait but i'm talking about players no programs
[08:39] <Seveas> HatchetDawg, try beep if you lie xmms
[08:40] <fangorious> HYPOKRIT, every device listed is unknown? there's no "VGA compatible controller:"?
[08:40] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[08:41] <Xanadu> csthepoet u mean like the iPod?
[08:41] <da_bon_bon> anyone had any problems updating to breezy ?
[08:41] <looga> Xanadu: how do i reinstall gthumb using CLI? and is it safe? and is that the best solution?
[08:41] <csthepoet> Xanadu, yes
[08:41] <Xanadu> looga: sudo apt-get remove gthumb
[08:41] <Xanadu> looga: sudo apt-get install gthumb
[08:41] <shonkey> hi
[08:41] <Xanadu> looga: yeah it's safe
[08:42] <Auxin> hi everyone :)
[08:42] <shonkey> i need some help!1
[08:42] <shonkey> !!
[08:42] <ubotu> I guess ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[08:42] <looga> hi Auxin
[08:42] <shonkey> no
[08:42] <shonkey> hi looga
[08:42] <Auxin> hm ubuntu is really... really nice :)
[08:42] <Xanadu> shonkey we all need help ;)
[08:42] <shonkey> ya
[08:43] <Xanadu> shonkey whats up?
[08:43] <taotime> xanadu: this is taotime again, hey i don't have the gstreamer for mp3 installed where do i get that
[08:43] <shonkey> i have a dual boot ubuntu/Win
[08:43] <looga> Xanadu: it's removing ubuntu-desktop!!! Oh no!!!
[08:43] <shonkey> i need to change my win
[08:43] <Auxin> hey guys.. what about skype for ubuntu?
[08:43] <Xanadu> taotime u got universe and multiverse installed right?
[08:43] <taotime> xanadu : yes
[08:43] <Xanadu> looga er cancel it then
[08:43] <HappyFool> !tell Auxin about skype
[08:43] <shonkey> can i do that without harming my Ubuntu?
[08:43] <looga> Xanadu: i can't. it's done.
[08:44] <taotime> xanadu: it  says something about error download files etc.
[08:44] <evian> I have a Sempron 3000+ cpu. Should I install linux-k7 kernel?
[08:44] <looga> guys, what happens now that I've accidentally uninstalled ubuntu-desktop
[08:44] <looga> ?
[08:44] <HappyFool> Xanadu, looga: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package; uninstalling it shouldn't matter
[08:44] <taotime> xanadu:  it says that i have duplicate source.list files installed
[08:44] <Auxin> thx a lot HappyFool :)
[08:44] <HappyFool> looga: you may want to reinstall it before upgrading to breezy
[08:44] <Exopaladin> anyone else had a problem about xscreensaver always saying denied when you try and unlock?
[08:45] <looga> HappyFool: how come when i uninstalled gThumb, it proceeded uninstalling ubuntu-desktop, too?
[08:45] <Xanadu> taotime stick in your ubuntu cd again and type sudo apt-get install gthumb
[08:45] <looga> HappyFool: should i wait til the 13th to upgrade?
[08:45] <evian> I mean is is safe to use and will it speed anything up?
[08:45] <taotime> xanadu : offtopic i could not download or install either realplayer or fluxbox
[08:45] <fangorious> anyone know how to enable the graphical boot sequence?
[08:45] <Xanadu> taotime did u try from the repositories?
[08:45] <shonkey> is there any good filesharing program for Ubuntu
[08:45] <looga> HappyFool: I have no place to backup my files aside from online (like gmail). Do you guys really think, it's necessary to back up all my files before upgrading to breezy?
[08:45] <shonkey> ???
[08:45] <taotime> xanadu: yes
[08:45] <shonkey> which one?
[08:45] <HatchetDawg> shonky: as long as your just installing or upgrading your win you should be fine... the beauty of partitions
[08:45] <Xanadu> taotime realplayer worked fine for me on breezy but not on hoary - which one you on
[08:46] <HappyFool> looga: ubuntu-desktop is an 'empty' package which depends on lots of apps making up a typical desktop; when you upgrade to breezy, it will make the Right Thing Happen with respect to gnome and related desktop applications
[08:46] <taotime> xanadu: breezy
[08:46] <taotime> xanadu:
[08:46] <shonkey> k
[08:46] <taotime> xanadu : 5.10
[08:46] <shonkey> i wanna change my Win2000 to XP
[08:46] <shonkey> can i do that
[08:46] <looga> HappyFool: i'm curious why you recommended i re-install ubuntu-desktop before upgrading to breezy? what would happen if i upgraded to breezy without re-installing  ubuntu-desktop
[08:46] <looga> ?
[08:46] <HappyFool> looga: a system upgrade is inherently risky, and backing up is a good idea. It depends what data you have to lose -- how much is it worth to you?
[08:46] <shonkey> without harming Ubuntu
[08:47] <shonkey> or GRUB
[08:47] <shonkey> ??
[08:47] <Strike4ce> mode +R
[08:47] <HatchetDawg> shonkey: yeah... just avoid dynamic disks for aditional hd's and your should be set
[08:47] <looga> do things look different with breezy?
[08:47] <Strike4ce> hello
[08:47] <looga> Is the GUI different?
[08:47] <taladon> not a whole lot
[08:47] <Xanadu> taotime: what happened when u tried to download?
[08:47] <shonkey> i have just one HD
[08:47] <looga> Does the desktop and icons look cuter/cooler?
[08:47] <shonkey> 40 GB
[08:47] <evian> looga a little, but not too much
[08:47] <Strike4ce> I need help
[08:47] <shonkey> 4
[08:47] <shonkey>  4 partitions
[08:47] <shonkey> ....
[08:47] <taotime> xanadu: it says no file found or package not found
[08:47] <HappyFool> looga: i'm not clear on the details, but i think in the system upgrade the ubuntu-desktop dependencies might change as part of the upgrade
[08:48] <hockeydave> I am trying to breath new life into a Compaq Armada 110... it is atleast a 5 year old laptop and runs a celeron processor... would ubunto function on this computer or should i just toss it???
[08:48] <Auxin> hm can't find libqt3c102-mt :-/
[08:48] <Auxin> what to do?
[08:48] <Strike4ce> HELLO???
[08:48] <taladon> I just reinstalled instead of trying to upgrade
[08:48] <Xanadu> taotime: sounds like you might have some probs in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:48] <Auxin> Strike4ce, just ask
[08:48] <Auxin> ...
[08:48] <looga> HappyFool: okay. i guess i'll reinstall ubuntu-desktop now just to be safe. it can't hurt to re-install this package, right+
[08:48] <looga> ?
[08:48] <HatchetDawg> shonkey: well you'll have no problems.....worse that will happen is you'll have to reset the MBR with the winXP disk then simply reinstall grub
[08:48] <Xanadu> looga should b fine
[08:48] <taotime> xanadu : will it be ok to just erase that file and start over
[08:48] <HappyFool> looga: well, it'll reinstall gthumb
[08:48] <Parisi> Whats the easiest way to make gnome recognie new installed programs with apt and add the entries automatically on the menus ?
[08:48] <taladon> kockeydave: what speed and how much memory does the laptop hae
[08:48] <Strike4ce> I have Nero how should I burn a ubuntu live cd?
[08:48] <Strike4ce> as a bootable disc?
[08:48] <Auxin> hm
[08:49] <Xanadu> toatime don't erase it
[08:49] <Auxin> just burn the "image"
[08:49] <shonkey> in iso
[08:49] <Auxin> yep
[08:49] <shonkey> format
[08:49] <evian> hockeydave, I would suggest buying a lagging edge, but still newer machine
[08:49] <Auxin> exactly
[08:49] <Xanadu> taotime just edit it as root - it's pretty simple
[08:49] <taotime> xanadu : ok i wont erase but i want to start over
[08:49] <hockeydave> lagging edge?
[08:49] <Strike4ce> ok, I burnt the cd and it wont boot
[08:49] <taotime> xanadu : cool i will do that b back in a minute
[08:49] <Xanadu> taotime you on breezy right?
[08:49] <shonkey> so can i safely change my Win Partition????
[08:49] <looga> HappyFool: when i did "apt-get install gthumb" it didn't install ubuntu-desktop. I guess it works one way only, huh?
[08:49] <taotime> xanadu : yes breezy 5.10
[08:49] <nalioth> Strike4ce: check your md5 sums on both iso and burnt cd
[08:49] <Xanadu> taotime if you are I'll send you mine
[08:49] <evian> yeah I got one for $100 recently after rebates and it is waaay faster than my 5 year old laptop
[08:50] <taotime> xanadu: cool
[08:50] <HappyFool> looga: ubuntu-desktop depends on gthumb, not the other way around
[08:50] <taotime> xanadu : should i just write over the old one
[08:50] <taladon> I heard their making $100 laptops for 3rd world countries. Too bad they won't sell them in the US
[08:50] <HatchetDawg> strike4ce: i know this sounds basic as all hell... but have you checked your boot order in bios?
[08:50] <Xanadu> deb ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multivers e
[08:50] <Xanadu> #deb-src ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe mult iverse
[08:50] <Xanadu> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
[08:50] <Xanadu> ## after the final release of the distribution.
[08:50] <looga> HappyFool:  was it safe for me to install gthumb first, and then ubuntu-desktop?
[08:50] <Xanadu> deb ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted universe m ultiverse
[08:50] <Xanadu> #deb-src ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[08:50] <Xanadu> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[08:50] <Xanadu> ## repository.
[08:50] <hockeydave> gotcha, i figured investing in a new machine would be the best but am just trying to mess around with this before i drop more cash in it
[08:50] <Xanadu> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[08:50] <Xanadu> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[08:50] <HappyFool> looga: almost certainly
[08:50] <shonkey> does Ubuntu got an ARES port???
[08:50] <Xanadu> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[08:50] <Xanadu> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[08:51] <Xanadu> ## team.
[08:51] <tristanmike> Xanadu, do not paste in here
[08:51] <Xanadu> #deb ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[08:51] <looga> HappyFool: phew. thanks.
[08:51] <Xanadu> #deb-src ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[08:51] <Xanadu> deb ftp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted universe mu ltiverse
[08:51] <Xanadu> #deb-src ftp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[08:51] <Strike4ce> yes, I have a dell laptop and all I have to do is hit f12 to change what I boot from
[08:51] <quirky> does anyone know why grip rips CDs so painfully slowly?
[08:51] <Xanadu> #deb ftp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[08:51] <Xanadu> #deb-src ftp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[08:51] <Xanadu> #Backports
[08:51] <looga> HappyFool: you have a digital camera?
[08:51] <Strike4ce> I must be burning the cd wrong
[08:51] <Xanadu> #deb ftp://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/ breezy-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[08:51] <tristanmike> !tell Xanadu about pastebin
[08:51] <evian> hockeydave, well sure you can try it, it does run alright on my older laptop
[08:51] <Xanadu> #Unofficial
[08:51] <HappyFool> looga: i'm afraid not
[08:51] <Xanadu> deb http://FTP.Debian-Unofficial.Org/debian sarge main contrib non-free restrict ed
[08:51] <Xanadu> deb http://WWW.Toasa.Net/debian/sarge/ binary/
[08:51] <Xanadu> yeah mine is pretty safe and standard
[08:51] <Xanadu> oops soz thought that was meant to /msg
[08:51] <Xanadu> stupid xchat /kicks
[08:51] <Strike4ce> basically all I did was burn all the files to a cd
[08:52] <Strike4ce> It ran on windows
[08:52] <looga> HappyFool: my "nautilus" just quit on me.
[08:52] <Strike4ce> I had a menu
[08:52] <looga> wonder why that Happened, HappyFool.
[08:52] <HatchetDawg> anyway to get glibc_2.3.4 running under hoary without making my system screw the pooch ... or should i just give up on gimpshop on ubuntu?
[08:52] <nalioth> Xanadu: you really should make sure where you aim those things
[08:52] <shonkey> how do i install new themes
[08:52] <shonkey> ???
[08:52] <evian> well since no one said anything about "linux-k7" kernel I guess I'll just try it...
[08:52] <Seveas> HatchetDawg, giving up is the safest bet
[08:52] <HappyFool> looga: perhaps it just crashed. what were you doing at the time?
[08:52] <Seveas> HatchetDawg, or just dist-upgrade to breezy :D
[08:53] <HatchetDawg> but what fun is safe?
[08:53] <kbrooks> Q: whats with glibc
[08:53] <Xanadu> taotime once u've changed your sources file run sudo apt-get update
[08:53] <nalioth> evian: you'd be better off using 686
[08:53] <Xanadu> nalioth v sorry didn't mean it
[08:53] <Seveas> A: the core of your userland system
[08:53] <HatchetDawg> well i guess breezy would definatly not be the 'safe' option lol
[08:53] <evian> nalioth: oh ok thanks
[08:53] <evian> why?
[08:53] <kbrooks> HatchetDawg: breezy is rc quality
[08:53] <Dreamglider> Hello
[08:53] <looga> HappyFool: well, nothing much. i had my home folder open. i had gthumb on. and opera.
[08:53] <taladon> anyone ever figure out how to mount ipod in ubuntu? I'm running 5.10 and when I plug ipod in, i get  ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023
[08:53] <Seveas> HatchetDawg, breezy is safe
[08:53] <Seveas> in 4 days it'll be released :)
[08:54] <kbrooks> yay 4 days
[08:54] <evian> nalioth: why? or where should I look to learn about this?
[08:54] <Strike4ce> what is the difference between ubuntu and windows?
[08:54] <looga> HappyFool:  i just re-installed gthumb, but i still get the same problem as before. Please refer to http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot90dr.png
[08:54] <HappyFool> looga: i don't know, sorry. bugs happen. if it happens often, try to find out how to reproduce it (i.e., make it happen every time) and report a bug
[08:54] <hosler> What is a good program to organize my music? I need something that will edit ID3 tags and the file names. I need something to also download album info.
[08:54] <HappyFool> looga: erk. how big is that image?
[08:54] <kbrooks> Strike4ce: substantive.
[08:54] <HatchetDawg> strike4ce: about $200
[08:54] <Strike4ce> lol
[08:54] <kbrooks> Seveas: deop yourself pls
[08:54] <kbrooks> :P
[08:54] <nalioth> evian: there are more pkgs available for 686 (such as flash)
[08:54] <keyes> Meeting about the creation of a PLF repository for UBUNUTU start in 5 min at #plf : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=386651
[08:54] <looga> HappyFool: it's not just one image.
[08:54] <Strike4ce> ok so i need some help I would like to try ubuntu
[08:54] <quirky> mp3 ripping using grip. Why is it so slow?
[08:55] <evian> nalioth: ok thanks!
[08:55] <Seveas> Strike4ce, what's the difference between an orange and an apple?
[08:55] <Xanadu> Strike4ce: Ubuntu is based on Linux, an open source operating system developed by thousands of developers around the world, for free and for the good of all
[08:55] <nex969> just loaded 5.10 what is the default root password?
[08:55] <HappyFool> looga: i'm on dial-up ;)
[08:55] <Seveas> !tell nex969 about root
[08:55] <nalioth> evian: and to a human, the differences are imperceptable
[08:55] <Strike4ce> cool
[08:55] <Seveas> nalioth, k7/686 both have flash
[08:55] <Seveas> they're both 32bit kernels
[08:55] <nalioth> Seveas: well
[08:55] <looga> HappyFool: 56 kb
[08:55] <evian> nalioth: glad I asked. I will do 686 then.
[08:55] <Seveas> it's just mac and amd64 that don't have flash
[08:55] <looga> HappyFool: is that small enough for you?
[08:55] <HappyFool> looga: indeed. ok, what's the problem?
[08:55] <Dreamglider> when i try to update i get a popup box saying "you have 1 broken package on your system! Use the "broken" filter to locate it.
[08:55] <Dreamglider> how can i fix this !
[08:56] <Seveas> evian, if you have an amd cpu (non-amd64) k7 is good too
[08:56] <looga> HappyFool: did you see the pic?
[08:56] <HappyFool> looga: yip
[08:56] <Dreamglider> i dont know how to use a broken filter !
[08:56] <evian> Seveas, ok, yeah its 32bit
[08:56] <Xanadu> Strike4ce I suggest you wait 4 days for "Breezy" - the next version of Ubuntu. Then download the "live" CD if you're not sure about running Linux yet. This will let you try it without installing anything on your computer.
[08:56] <Seveas> Dreamglider, glue?
[08:56] <taladon> duct tape?
[08:56] <Seveas> :)
[08:56] <looga> HappyFool: so the problem is: the thumbnails are not displaying the images.
[08:56] <Xanadu> Strike4ce if you still like it then get the install CD and get rid of nasty Windowz
[08:56] <HappyFool> looga: are they valid images?
[08:56] <Dreamglider> i wish it would be that simple :)
[08:56] <HappyFool> looga: try running 'eog' on one of them
[08:57] <taladon> broken filter is weird.  did you recently install anything in synaptic?
[08:57] <Bad_Magic> or install both since you cant play games on linux fer shit atm (especially if you have an ati video card)
[08:57] <Strike4ce> How do I register?
[08:57] <looga> HappyFool: they are vaild images. The thumbnails don't show, but the "preview image" shows the image selected.
[08:57] <DagaZ> How can I tell which filesystem is on a hdd that I want to mount??
[08:57] <Strike4ce> bad I cnat pm you not registered
[08:57] <Strike4ce> cant
[08:57] <looga> HappyFool: how do i run eog?
[08:57] <Dreamglider> taladon, i did apt-get upgrade
[08:57] <Bad_Magic> ./msg nickserv register password
[08:57] <HappyFool> looga: 'eog image.jpg'
[08:57] <Seveas> Stricklin, /msg nickserv register new_password_here
[08:57] <Seveas> Strike4ce*
[08:57] <Bad_Magic> wait a minute, how did you get in here if you are unregistered
[08:57] <Bad_Magic> =P
[08:57] <nalioth> Strike4ce: register. there are many services offered by freenode to those with registered nicks
[08:58] <frickel> @Xanadu Thx Xanadu, my connection problem seems to be solved
[08:58] <Mithsir> Hi! When will there be an amd64 package for OpenOffice 2?
[08:58] <Xanadu> frickel did u get roaring penguin?
[08:59] <Seveas> Mithsir, there should already be one...
[08:59] <frickel> @Xanadu I did
[08:59] <HappyFool> looga: i'm not familiar with gthumb; perhaps it's a bug. You seem to be planning to upgrade to breezy -- if the problem persists in breezy, report it (bugzilla.ubuntu.com)
[08:59] <looga> HappyFool: it works with the eog program (Image Viewer). In fact i can view them in gThumb, just not in the thumbnails section.
[08:59] <frickel> @Xanadu what is the name of the GUI, do you know?
[08:59] <Xanadu> frickel yeah i think it's quite a bit better than the default pppoe dialer
[08:59] <Parisi> Whats the easiest way to make gnome recognize new installed programs with apt and add the entries automatically on gnome menus ?
[08:59] <Xanadu> frickel it's that go-gui file - you can just rerun it
[08:59] <Mithsir> Seveas, oh, really? I just upgraded to breezy yesterday, did I miss it?
[08:59] <looga> guys, what program is there to easily rotate jpegs (lossless rotation)?
[08:59] <Seveas> Parisi, by installing programs that define such menu entries...
[09:00] <taotime> xanadu: i m sorry it took me a while to apt-get update but should i be looking for a gstreamer mp3 or not
[09:00] <Seveas> Mithsir, you should have ubuntu-desktop installed during upgrades
[09:00] <taotime> xanadu: cause i download the multiverse and universe repositories and all that but i still couldn
[09:00] <Xanadu> taotime probably - there's no mp3 support in ubuntu because mp3 is copyrigted
[09:00] <Parisi> Seveas,  Is there a command from gnome that will search for apps and adds them to the menu automatically?
[09:00] <taladon> just curious. did anyone here attend LinuxFest 2005 in Columbus Ohio?
[09:00] <HappyFool> taotime: on hoary i think the library is gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:00] <Seveas> Xanadu, there is good mp3 support in ubuntu
[09:00] <Xanadu> taotime by not putting it in by default, ubuntu stays free
[09:00] <Seveas> just not installed by default
[09:00] <looga> what's a good program to do basic edits to pictures (rotation, etc)?
[09:00] <Mithsir> Seveas, I just searched for it, you're right... can I run 1.x and 2.0 concurrently?
[09:01] <Seveas> Mithsir, yes
[09:01] <Xanadu> Seveas yeah but you have to install it from the repositories
[09:01] <david_> Anyone attend LinuxWorld Expo 2005 in London?
[09:01] <taotime> xanadu: how do i by pass that because in debian 10.1 (i think) i had rhythm box running the same shoutcast.com radio stations by default
[09:01] <replay`-> Parisi yes there is one command for the shell: sudo apt-get update
[09:01] <Auxin> anyhow... ubuntu is the only linux distro which is having problems with skype .. or does it depend on debian ?!
[09:02] <HappyFool> !tell taotime about restricted
[09:02] <Xanadu> taotime you probably installed it when u installed rhythmbox. It's just a choice the package guys made
[09:02] <Seveas> Auxin, ubuntu has no problems with skype
[09:02] <replay`-> Auxin there is no problem with skype
[09:02] <Auxin> well there is
[09:02] <taladon> anyone ever figure out how to mount ipod in ubuntu? I'm running 5.10 and when I plug ipod in, i get  ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023
[09:02] <HappyFool> taotime: read that wiki page; should tell you all you need to know about getting mp3's to work
[09:02] <Seveas> Auxin, skype devs are just too stupid to provide good debs
[09:02] <Xanadu> Auxin what's the problem?
[09:02] <Auxin> like Seveas said
[09:02] <Auxin> with the dependencies
[09:02] <Auxin> well as it seems yes Seveas ;)
[09:02] <taotime> xanadu happyfool :  thankxs i m on that website wikipedia i will look ti up. thankz again for ur help
[09:03] <Auxin> Xanadu, installing the dependencies manually
[09:03] <Auxin> is enough ;)
[09:03] <Xanadu> taotime no probs dude good luck!
[09:03] <taotime> xanadu thanks
[09:03] <maddler> Auxin: or use static binary...
[09:03] <taotime> later
[09:03] <Auxin> maddler, yes
[09:03] <Mithsir> well, thanks, gotta go.
[09:03] <HappyFool> wiki.ubuntu.com is not quite at wikipedia size yet ;)
[09:03] <Xanadu> Auxin there's a discussion on installing Skype on Breezy on skype forums
[09:03] <Auxin> hm how do i post-install mp3 support?
[09:03] <Seveas> !tell auxin about mp3
[09:04] <Auxin> heh ... this bot is nice :)
[09:04] <Xanadu> Auxin or install the static version
[09:04] <kevogod> HappyFool, That may take a little while.
[09:04] <Auxin> Xanadu, it works no.. but
[09:04] <taladon> man, the internet radio stations in amarok are pretty cool
[09:04] <Auxin> well ... no but ;)
[09:05] <evian> taladon, I live in Columbus Ohio, but I didn't know there was a linuxfest
[09:05] <EasterSunshine> i very much doubt there is any os better than kubuntu anywhere in the world
[09:05] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, Ubuntu ;)
[09:05] <thenuke> EasterSunshine: sure there are, it just depends on your needs and so on
[09:05] <micro_girl> hey once again, everyone
[09:06] <micro_girl> now I need to edit .baserc , where can I find that?
[09:06] <Whistler> how can i make my ubuntu to startx automaticaly ?
[09:06] <thenuke> EasterSunshine: but for average user, I would recommend ubuntu ofcourse :)
[09:06] <raetsel> Hi, any PPC users on here today?
[09:06] <kevogod> I do like Skype's Linux screenshots with Beastie as the other end's avatar.
[09:06] <raetsel> Hi Whistler is usually should startx automatically
[09:06] <Whistler> i did server install
[09:06] <HappyFool> micro_girl: you probably mean .bashrc. It's in your home directory. 'gedit ~/.bashrc' should do the trick
[09:06] <AES_24_96> hi, noob here, some guys from here were helping me out last night, I finally got ubuntu downloaded and Im about to install, any hints?
[09:06] <timotapio> where I can register my IRC nick?
[09:06] <nalioth> AES_24_96: have fun
[09:07] <HappyFool> timotapio: /msg nickserv help
[09:07] <nalioth> timotapio: /msg nickserv help register
[09:07] <raetsel> Backup up anything you might was to keep AES_24_96 :o)
[09:07] <AES_24_96> wow
[09:07] <Whistler> AES_24_96 be carefull with partitioning
[09:07] <Whistler> :)
[09:07] <EasterSunshine> raetsel: did you sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[09:07] <raetsel> are you going for a dual boot system AES_24_96
[09:07] <AES_24_96> yes dual boot
[09:07] <AES_24_96> wit win2k
[09:07] <EasterSunshine> i mean, that was supposed to be @whistler
[09:07] <javi_> hola
[09:08] <raetsel> EasterSunshine?
[09:08] <kevogod> Skype gives the same dependency error as the dynamically linked version of Opera 8.5.
[09:08] <Xanadu> who's in charge of doing commands for ubot?
[09:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Xanadu about ubotu
[09:08] <Seveas> !skype
[09:08] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[09:08] <raetsel> have your windows recovery CD handy in case you have problems with windows boot, AES
[09:08] <Seveas> bad
[09:08] <durt> kevogod: use the debian sid version of opera instead
[09:08] <AES_24_96> ouch
[09:08] <Whistler> EasterSunshine i am using icewm
[09:08] <timotapio>  /msg nickserv help - shall I write this to terminal?
[09:08] <AES_24_96> maybe I better throw it on another drive
[09:08] <Seveas> !skype is also breezy debs: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:08] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[09:08] <kevogod> durt, I am using the static version.
[09:08] <Whistler> now each time i have to type startx
[09:09] <tristanmike> timotapio, no, in irc here
[09:09] <raetsel> If you have that option AES then for a first time install it is always worth
[09:09] <HappyFool> Seveas: oops, i pointed someone at that a few minutes ago
[09:09] <AES_24_96> ok
[09:09] <AES_24_96> Im going to clear out a drive and try
[09:09] <durt> kevogod: the debian version doesnt have the dependency error
[09:09] <kevogod> durt, Alright, I'll check it out.
[09:09] <AES_24_96> I only need to test it briefly, it should be fine for that
[09:10] <raetsel> you'll be able to mount your windows drive from Ubuntu afterwards if you want stuff
[09:10] <AES_24_96> cool
[09:10] <raetsel> any PPC users on tonight
[09:10] <nalioth> raetsel: yes. many of us
[09:10] <looga> for those who couldn't wait, what's the first different you noticed after upgrading to breezy?
[09:11] <JayLv99> hey
[09:11] <taladon> I've got a script I use to get my wireless usb adapter working.  What startup file should I call it from so it starts automatically?
[09:11] <looga> difference.
[09:11] <JayLv99> does anyone here have "The Illustrated Man" by Ray Bradbury handy?
[09:11] <raetsel> well I guess you've heard the question 1000 times nalioth but any recommendations for a USB Wifi Adapter? I've seen info about the DWL-122 but it's not that favourable
[09:11] <Xanadu> looga: the boot screen - since it's first ;)
[09:11] <nalioth> JayLv99: perhaps #classicbradbury  ?
[09:11] <Dreamglider> if i tell synaptic package manager to install gstreamer0.8 it says that Skype needs to be removed!!!!
[09:11] <taladon> raetsel: I'm using the DWL122
[09:12] <Seveas> Dreamglider, then don't remove gstreamer..
[09:12] <timotapio>  /msg NickServ help register
[09:12] <nalioth> raetsel: there is a driver for that dongle, but it is 50% favorable
[09:12] <raetsel> You'd recommend it then taladon? do you need a manual script to start it?
[09:12] <gfxstyler> hi
[09:12] <nalioth> raetsel: netgear ma111 is also advised
[09:12] <HappyFool> timotapio: try again, without a space in front
[09:12] <ubuntu_> Hello
[09:13] <raetsel> Yeah I've read about that one too just wanted a bit more "re-assurance"
[09:13] <nalioth> taladon: can you join #kubuntu-offtopic? i would ask you about the dl122
[09:13] <looga> aside from the bootup screen, what's the first noticeable difference with breezy?
[09:13] <gfxstyler> gnome 2.12
[09:13] <Xanadu> looga: the new kernel
[09:13] <guy_> hello
[09:14] <gfxstyler> he said "whats the first _noticeable_ difference"
[09:14] <tonquin> hi all,  i've changed my network configuration a bit and now ubuntu can't find the internet. specifically, i put in a router - everything was fine. now i've taken out the router and windows is ok...but ubuntu is not. what's going on?
[09:14] <Xanadu> yeah the first thing i did was run uname -r ;)
[09:14] <oris_wolfbane> heyko, how do i read system mail?
[09:14] <gfxstyler> :)
[09:14] <ubuntu_> =)
[09:14] <nalioth> oris_wolfbane: type "mail"
[09:15] <oris_wolfbane> thanks
[09:15] <boxerboy29> did they remove the black and brown boot screen from breezy cause i lost mine after the updates
[09:15] <kevogod> I get a GPG error from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl ubuntu-seveas Release.
[09:15] <looga> okay, aside from bootup screen and kernel, what's the first noticeable difference that a not-techie would notice with an upgrade to breezy?
[09:15] <Exopaladin> anyone had any problems with getting a denied message when trying to unlock after locking screen?
[09:15] <Seveas> boxerboy29, no they did not
[09:15] <nalioth> kevogod: disregard
[09:15] <raetsel> what happens tonquin? what is not ok about the system?
[09:15] <Seveas> kevogod, then add my key to your apt keyring
[09:15] <kevogod> Seveas, Where is your key?
[09:15] <raetsel> Exopaladin: Only when I get the password wrong :o)
[09:15] <Rev-Marc> greetings all can anyone point me to a good resource for learning about the program "Wine"?
[09:15] <Exopaladin> heh, I get the password right and it still says denied :/
[09:15] <Seveas> gpg --recv-keys 1135d466; gpg --export --armor 1135d466 | sudo apt-key add -
[09:16] <Seveas> ^-- kev-test
[09:16] <afed> hey guys whats going on in this ubuntu
[09:16] <Seveas> kevogod*
[09:16] <HappyFool> Rev-Marc: one place is the irc channel #winehq
[09:16] <gfxstyler> looga: gnome 2.12 has a few new apps
[09:16] <tonquin> raetsel  ubuntu boots. but when i run firefox it just doesn't get any data.
[09:16] <boxerboy29> seveas is there a way to get it back?
[09:16] <looga> gfxstyler: like what? (pant pant)
[09:16] <gfxstyler> looga: ubuntu repositories are much bigger now
[09:16] <ubuntu_> wow
[09:16] <Xanadu> looga: my first impression of Breezy: http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?action=view&id=611&topic=
[09:16] <raetsel> Exopaladin: has caps lock got confused? try putting iy on if it should be off
[09:16] <micro_girl> a quick question, everyone
[09:16] <HappyFool> Rev-Marc: also www.winehq.com
[09:16] <gfxstyler> looga: menu editor, bootup editor, services editor, user information editor or something like that
[09:16] <Xanadu> looga: I'll do another review on Wednesday
[09:16] <HatchetDawg> looga: apparently the ability to get gimpshop running without screwing 70% of your other programs
[09:16] <micro_girl> how can I remove the package manager icon from near the clock?
[09:16] <kevogod> Seveas, K thanks
[09:17] <HappyFool> micro_girl: update your system ;)
[09:17] <raetsel> now the router is gone, tonquin how are you expecting the Ubintu system to connect to the Internet?
[09:17] <Seveas> boxerboy29, get what back?
[09:17] <Exopaladin> raetsel: nah, that doesn't seem to be the problem, also tried creating a new user incase something in my home directory was screwing it up
[09:17] <timotapio> How are Your webcams workinG?
[09:17] <micro_girl> -_-
[09:17] <boxerboy29> the black and brown ubuntu boot screen
[09:17] <micro_girl> HappyFool, I don't want it there, how can I remove it?
[09:17] <gfxstyler> looga: (maybe its just my imagination) ubuntu has become more stable and apps are starting faster
[09:17] <looga> have you guys read that article written by a Ubuntu employee? The article writing about all the things in Hoary's UI that could be improved? I wonder if all his insights have been implemented.
[09:17] <tonquin> raetsel, well i have an adsl modem.
[09:17] <timotapio> i mean Mine aint
[09:17] <raetsel> tonquin: ok and did ubuntu used to work with that before?
[09:18] <trajan_> hello
[09:18] <tonquin> raetsel yes it was fine.
[09:18] <micro_girl> anyone knows how to remove it, please?
[09:18] <HappyFool> micro_girl: i've just taken a look at Update Manager's preferences; there's no obvious way to do it
[09:18] <timotapio> will webcam work in Breezy?
[09:18] <vengeful_> cantyoujust right click and remove it
[09:18] <trajan_> is there a way that the terminal saves its resize ?
[09:18] <vengeful_> (not using gnome)
[09:18] <Seveas> micro_girl, click it and install the updates
[09:18] <raetsel> tonquin: what does a netstat -rn command show you in a terminal window?
[09:18] <micro_girl> HappyFool, I know, I already tried it
[09:19] <Seveas> do *not* remove it, security updates are there for a reason
[09:19] <micro_girl> Seveas, I can't... in my country we have a download limit!
[09:19] <looga> Xanadu: i'm reading your review now.
[09:19] <gfxstyler> timotapio: if your webcam is supported by linux
[09:19] <durt> what country is that?
[09:19] <Seveas> micro_girl, then let it sit there until you can
[09:19] <HappyFool> micro_girl: you can switch off 'Automatically check for software updates' (not really recommended)
[09:19] <tonquin> raetsel, not sure... let me reboot and see... what should it say?
[09:19] <vengeful_> can always get it from the medu though ;-) its not there on xfce4
[09:19] <micro_girl> portugal
[09:19] <Xanadu> looga: my next review is going to be quite different I think
[09:19] <trajan_> does anyone know  ?
[09:19] <raetsel> well part of the information will say about a default route , then you can try and ping that
[09:20] <looga> I currently have both hoary's default PDF viewer XPDF and the viewer that comes with breezy (Evince). What will happen when i ugrade to Breezy?
[09:20] <trajan_> ...?
[09:20] <Seveas> looga, they'll both stay installed
[09:20] <Xanadu> looga: evince *should* become the default
[09:20] <raetsel> if you are in windoze tonquin, try an ipconfig /all and see what the default gateway and DNS settinngs are, then compare with the netstat in ubuntu
[09:20] <looga> Seveas: will the versions for both be updated?
[09:21] <tonquin> raetsel... i'll  do  that ...
[09:21] <timotapio> webcam logitech quickcam express, very usual one
[09:21] <looga> any jflickr user here?
[09:21] <Seveas> looga, only if you have enabled universe (xpdf has been demoted to universe)
[09:21] <ulrichrose> ulli
[09:21] <AngryParsley> how do I share a folder in linux so that it can be seen by windows computers over the network?
[09:21] <looga> Seveas: why has it been demoted?
[09:21] <HappyFool> !tell AngryParsley about samba
[09:21] <Seveas> AngryParsley, system -> admin -> shared folders
[09:21] <AngryParsley> I went to system -> administration -> shared folders and added it
[09:21] <trevis> cany anyone point me to a link for installing nvidia drivers?
[09:21] <looga> ARe not-default apps found in universe?
[09:21] <Seveas> looga, since evince now is the default (and xpdf just sucks :))
[09:21] <looga> non-default
[09:22] <AngryParsley> but no login info works over the network
[09:22] <raetsel> !info pastebin
[09:22] <micro_girl> sorry everyone
[09:22] <AngryParsley> HappyFool: yeah I did that
[09:22] <durt> gv>evince>xpdf
[09:22] <raetsel> !pastebin
[09:22] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:22] <AngryParsley> I wouldn't ask a question if I didn't already read about it in the wiki
[09:22] <vengeful_> hi again micro..get those mounts sorted?
[09:22] <HappyFool> AngryParsley: what seveas said looks good
[09:22] <looga> Seveas: you know, with evince and xpdf, i can't select the exact percentage of magnification. Can you?
[09:22] <Sonny_Wertzik> im having trouble setting custom GDM login screen sounds, is there a specific limit as to length or size of files?
[09:22] <AngryParsley> HappyFool: I DID THAT
[09:22] <AngryParsley> it didn't work
[09:22] <HappyFool> AngryParsley: and you read the wiki page?
[09:22] <AngryParsley> yes
[09:23] <AngryParsley> I can see my linux computer on the windows network
[09:23] <AngryParsley> but I can't view files in the shared folder
[09:23] <Strike4ce> What is the name of the image file I need to burn to a cd?
[09:23] <ulrichrose> ulli Thera are german guys?
[09:23] <trajan_> does anyone know how the gnome terminal can save its size when reloading  ?
[09:23] <HatchetDawg> well screw it..... movin on up to breezy....... lets hope when i wake up my girl didn't decide to reboot the comp just to login to XP (she did it last time i changed my login screen and she couldn't figure out why there was only one box for both username and pass) *shakes his head*
[09:23] <HatchetDawg> laters all
[09:23] <raetsel> !de
[09:23] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[09:23] <HappyFool> AngryParsley: what error do you get? or do you just not see folders?
[09:23] <Seveas> looga, no I cannot
[09:23] <AngryParsley> HappyFool: my login creditials don't work
[09:23] <Seveas> ulrichrose, #ubuntu-de
[09:24] <AngryParsley> do I have to put a .smbcredentials in every directory or just the root one?
[09:24] <nalioth> AngryParsley: just YOUR homedir
[09:24] <AngryParsley> nalioth: oh my home directory
[09:24] <HappyFool> AngryParsley: err, i don't know .smbcredentials. I've used smbpasswd and domain membership
[09:24] <micro_girl> another question....
[09:24] <trajan_> ...........................................................?
[09:24] <Strike4ce> how I login here?
[09:24] <trajan_> any ideas ?
[09:24] <nalioth> trajan_: that is uncalled for
[09:24] <nalioth> Strike4ce: /msg nickserv help register
[09:25] <ulrichrose> #ubuntu-de
[09:25] <HappyFool> ulrichrose: /join #ubuntu-de
[09:25] <nalioth> ulrichrose: shreibe /j #ubuntu-de
[09:25] <raetsel> nalioth is the netgear MA111 easier to use that the DWL-122 do you know? do I still need the wan-ng stuff?
[09:26] <Sonny_Wertzik> im having trouble setting custom GDM login screen sounds, is there a specific limit as to length or size of sound files?
[09:26] <nalioth> raetsel: you'll need the wlan-ng stuff
[09:26] <Xanadu> trajan_: check out man gnome-terminal and look at the geometry secion
[09:26] <AngryParsley> iu
[09:26] <Xanadu> damn he left
[09:26] <AngryParsley> gah, it's still not working
[09:27] <AngryParsley> I'm just going to burn a CD instead
[09:27] <micro_girl> how can I install a gmail notifier on ubuntu??
[09:27] <taladon> search for it in synaptic :)
[09:27] <HappyFool> AngryParsley: i'd test with smbclient on the server (i.e., linux machine)
[09:27] <EasterSunshine> what is good program to connect to an smb host? konqueror is having trouble doing with, with the simple error messge, "an error has occured"
[09:27] <raetsel> Hmm ok nalioth, guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet. I'm going to be building an emac with ubuntu soon and need a wireless option
[09:27] <AngryParsley> HappyFool: I just want to copy some mp3s to a windows box so I can use itunes to add them to my ipod
[09:27] <AngryParsley> since gnupod won't add them
[09:27] <micro_girl> taladon, I couldn't seem to find it there
[09:27] <HappyFool> AngryParsley: something like 'smbclient -L localhost -U <usernamegoeshere>'
[09:28] <Xanadu> EasterSunshine best in my experience is to mount your smb shares as drives
[09:28] <HappyFool> AngryParsley: hmm, can't you share a folder on the windows side?
[09:28] <nalioth> raetsel: if you are using a desktop machine, there are 'extenders' or whatever they are called that use ethernet cables
[09:28] <AngryParsley> HappyFool: smbclient doesn't seem to like XP machines
[09:28] <AngryParsley> and I can't use smbclient to log onto my own machine either
[09:28] <Whistler> how can i install packager
[09:28] <Whistler> ?
[09:28] <raetsel> yeah I don't want to run a cable from the room where the machine will be, nalioth
[09:28] <AngryParsley> it says session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[09:29] <bslima> hey
[09:29] <AngryParsley> anyway, it's just going to be faster to burn a CD
[09:29] <bslima> cant install sun-j2sdk
[09:29] <raetsel> he bslima
[09:29] <bslima> why ?
[09:29] <AngryParsley> I'll mess with networking later
[09:29] <HappyFool> AngryParsley: ok. fwiw, i've had big problems with domain membership but usually smbclient works OK
[09:29] <nalioth> raetsel: not at all. they make wireless devices that plug in via ethernet
[09:29] <oxez> when I turn on my windowsxp emulated machine (on ubuntu, using VMWare), and then I click on "full screen", my screen's vertical sync goes to 94 hz. The maximum that my screen supports is 75, so it's crying and it's near to explode. How can I fix that? When I right click -> properties -> advanced -> Monitor I can't change vertical sync from Windows, It's stuck to 'Hardware default'.
[09:29] <freddy__> is there a working address for ' hoary-backports main universe multiverse'
[09:29] <nalioth> raetsel: i'm stupid and cant remember what they are called
[09:30] <Whistler> how can i install packager ?
[09:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell freddy__ about backports
[09:30] <raetsel> oh right I see what you mean nalioth
[09:30] <Xanadu> AngryParsley: maybe try a different security method in your /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[09:30] <bslima> anyone
[09:30] <bslima> help me plz
[09:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bslima about javadeb
[09:30] <arioch_> can anyone help me with enabling sound from my Audigy in Breezy preview?
[09:31] <bslima> nalioth, cant install sun-j2sdk
[09:31] <raetsel> nalioth sort of like a wireless/ethernet bridge. Are these apple mac specific or generic devices
[09:31] <Xanadu> arioch_: do you have a little speaker icon in the top right-hand corner?
[09:31] <bslima> sudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5 1.5.0
[09:31] <bslima> doesnt work
[09:31] <nalioth> bslima: read your msg from ubotu
[09:31] <nalioth> raetsel: yes that is it. any will do (the emac will only see a live ethernet connection)
[09:31] <WinZ> hi there! help me please: atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[09:31] <WinZ> atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[09:31] <WinZ> this in dmesg
[09:32] <Xanadu> WinZ what key is it?
[09:32] <Strike4ce> set password password
[09:32] <Strike4ce> lol
[09:32] <Strike4ce> oops
[09:32] <WinZ> Xanadu, Up, Down, Left, Right, Pg Up|Down, End, Home, insert, Delete
[09:32] <raetsel> nalioth found one, called an AirStation ( bit pricey )but gives me an option. Cheers nalioth
[09:32] <nalioth> raetsel: there are others
[09:33] <micro_girl> how can I install a gmail notifier on ubuntu??
[09:33] <EasterSunshine> ok what is syntax for mounting an smb share...? i've gone thru hell to figure it out before and i don't wanna spend another hour doing it again
[09:33] <Xanadu> WinZ: Do those keys not work?
[09:33] <AngryParsley> wtf? I can't burn a CD either
[09:33] <WinZ> Xanadu, they are work, but hard disk is working hard, when i'm pressing them
[09:33] <thenuke> EasterSunshine: there should be good help available in web :) did you found any
[09:33] <Swetko> hi
[09:33] <AngryParsley> it says to insert a CD with more than 600 megs free on it, but I put in a blank CD
[09:34] <Xanadu> WinZ: Do you have a weird keyboard or a laptop?
[09:34] <EasterSunshine> thenuke: in the past, the web didn't help, the syntax that did actually work was different
[09:34] <Hendric> wat do i need to enable mplayer to play video streams on firefox..???
[09:34] <AngryParsley> I tried with different blank CDs too, and they don't work
[09:34] <WinZ> Xanadu, weird
[09:34] <raetsel> Hi Hendric, you get your gksudo problem sorted in the end?
[09:34] <Xanadu> EasterSunshine: mount -t smbfs //mywindowzmachine/c$ /mnt/windows_c -o username=blah,password=blah
[09:34] <Swetko> How can I switch to super user (root) - wheni type su it asks me for a password and I don not know it
[09:34] <thenuke> EasterSunshine: all right. unfortunately I dont know about samba, so no more help from me then ;)
[09:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Swetko about root
[09:34] <Xanadu> EasterSunshine that's from memory so I hope it works ;)
[09:35] <Hendric> raetsel, i found out the problem about that.. but there was no solution so i reinstalled
[09:35] <raetsel> oh what was the cause of the problem then, hendric?
[09:35] <Strike4ce> ok how the hell do i change my password its not very explanatory
[09:35] <Xanadu> WinZ: do u have a standard keyboard?
[09:35] <vengeful_> micro, just install gmail-notify from synaptic package manager
[09:35] <arioch_> Xanadu: I don't see the sound icon in the system bar
[09:35] <WinZ> Xanadu, yes-yes! Mitsumi, 104 keys
[09:35] <Hendric> raetsel, i tried it 5x yesterday.. you should not plug any USB devices during installation....
[09:36] <HappyFool> Strike4ce: good question; not sure how to do it with GUI
[09:36] <vengeful_> cant you just type passwd ? :-P
[09:36] <Xanadu> arioch_ you sure it's plugged in okay? It should pick up an audigy automatically
[09:36] <Hendric> raetsel, i tried plugging my webcam during install and i got the error...
[09:36] <Hendric> raetsel, i installed without any usb devices plugged and it has no problem
[09:37] <raetsel> hendric, wow that really is most bizarre, have you reported it?
[09:37] <oris_wolfbane> micro_girl, http://nodezero.blogspot.com/2005/08/gmail-notifier.html?
[09:37] <Hendric> raetsel, i haven't coz i don't know how... i even tried my HP all-in-one plugged in during install and it gives me the error too!!
[09:37] <Xanadu> micro_girl: http://kcheckgmail.sourceforge.org is meant to be cool
[09:37] <EasterSunshine> Xanadu: thx but it gave me bad fs type
[09:38] <arioch_> Xanadu: yeah, I reseated it twice, and it worked fine when I was using Hoary...I even checked the alsamixer settings to mute the digital/analog ouput jack
[09:38] <taladon> anyone here have working ipod in ubuntu?
[09:38] <HappyFool> hmm, how do i get gksudo to give up credentials ?
[09:38] <EasterSunshine> smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported <--what is this mean?
[09:38] <Xanadu> EasterSunshine: check that all your samba stuff is installed from the repository
[09:38] <majikstreet> hey everyone. i'm on breezy badger. when i log out of a wm/de i always get "cannot display video mode". why is that?
[09:38] <Xanadu> EasterSunshine I haven't a friggin clue :O
[09:38] <micro_girl> Xanadu, I tried that, but that doesn't appear in the extensions!
[09:38] <EasterSunshine> thats a big version number
[09:38] <EasterSunshine> right above that, it says version 0 isn't supported
[09:39] <Rev-Marc> I can't see to install "Gsynaptics" in Ubuntu I need it to turn off my touchpad as there is noway to turn it off in BIOS
[09:39] <raetsel> Hendric, well at least you found out what caused it. I am still stunned that was the reason
[09:39] <Xanadu> arioch_ weird dude. Try System-> Preferences -> Sound
[09:40] <Xanadu> arioch_: if it's not in the dropdown try dmesg | grep "audigy" -i
[09:40] <Hendric> raetsel, i was stunned either.. even my flash drive causes the error if plugged during installation.
[09:40] <Xanadu> arioch_: it really should load automatically
[09:40] <micro_girl> Xanadu, also, it doesn't seem to let me install it, since it is usigned!!!
[09:40] <Hendric> raetsel, anyways.. can you help me play video streams on firefox? using mplayer..
[09:40] <arioch_> Xanadu: It says the default sound card is Audigy 1 [SB0090] 
[09:40] <Strike4ce> ok now I need to know what exactly I have to burn is there a specific image file or do I just burn the whole download to cd as image
[09:40] <majikstreet> hey everyone. i'm on breezy badger. when i log out of a wm/de i always get "cannot display video mode". why is that?
[09:40] <durt> rev_marc- you can adjust xorg.conf if necessary
[09:40] <Hendric> raetsel, someone here told me last time.. it worked. but i forgot all the "apt-get" he told me...
[09:40] <Rev-Marc> is their a compatable package to install?
[09:40] <Xanadu> arioch_ well at least it knows you have a card :)
[09:40] <EasterSunshine> whoa breezy badger it out already?
[09:41] <majikstreet> no it's not EasterSunshine
[09:41] <EasterSunshine> oh ok
[09:41] <majikstreet> lol
[09:41] <durt> why cant you install gsynaptics rev-marc?
[09:41] <Xanadu> micro_girl I haven't tried it personally - was just recommended
[09:41] <dmlinux> how do i get to the sources.list again, i forgot the dir
[09:41] <EasterSunshine> release candidates
[09:41] <Skid> dmlinux: /etc/apt/
[09:41] <EasterSunshine> in /etc/apt/souces.list
[09:41] <arioch_> Xanadu: yeah, no output in the dmesg
[09:42] <tyler_durden> would i be able to upgrade to the final of breezy with my current preview release? and will it be perfectly safe and effective?
[09:42] <Rev-Marc> hello again "durt" I kept getting errors and I believe needed ummm  dependeancies
[09:42] <dmlinux> thanks
[09:42] <tuskernini> hi there all...
[09:42] <majikstreet> i guess no-one can help eh?
[09:42] <majikstreet> hey everyone. i'm on breezy badger. when i log out of a wm/de i always get "cannot display video mode". why is that?
[09:42] <Mithsir> Hi! is there a ubuntu package for amd64 for adobes acroread?
[09:42] <nalioth> tyler_durden: of course. ubuntu is designed for staying up to date
[09:42] <Xanadu> arioch_: afraid that's the end of my audigy knowlege :(
[09:42] <tyler_durden> ok and how would i update it?
[09:42] <tuskernini> was wondering if anyone could help me with upgrading my hardware using ubuntu...
[09:42] <Rev-Marc> I can pray but not spell
[09:42] <Xanadu> arioch_ I can't afford one
[09:42] <tyler_durden> apt-get update? or how
[09:42] <nalioth> tyler_durden: /msg ubotu synaptic
[09:42] <nalioth> tyler_durden: identify yourself please
[09:42] <JDigital> Hey, is there a way to find out what's using all my bandwidth
[09:43] <raetsel> majikstreet : it kind of suggests some issue with your X.ord video drivers but I can't say much more
[09:43] <tyler_durden> i know what that is, but the bot wouldnt tell me how exactly
[09:43] <JDigital> like how you can use top to find out what's using your CPU
[09:43] <arioch_> Xanadu: lol, you can have mine if I can't get it to work.  Thanks for your assistance :)
[09:43] <durt> what dependency error are you getting rev-marc?
[09:43] <EasterSunshine> JDigital: do you know about ethereal?
[09:43] <JDigital> Ah, yes, I have that.
[09:43] <Rev-Marc> I am sorry it was late the other night and I don't recall
[09:43] <Xanadu> arioch_: good luck dude. The fact that it's not coming up in dmesg points to possible driver problem, but it's such a standard card I would be surprised
[09:43] <EasterSunshine> JDigital: it'll show you all the packets going in and out of your interfaces
[09:44] <tuskernini> would i get trouble upgrading my hardware and just plugging my hdd?
[09:44] <durt> rev-marc: you might have to apt-get install xfree86-driver-synaptics to replace the xorg ones (worked for me)
[09:44] <Hendric> can anyone tell me what im missin? i "apt-get mplayer-386 mozillamplayer w32codecs" but still i wasn't able to play video streams on firefox cause totem defaults on it.
[09:44] <arioch_> Xanadu: Were there any alsa changes between Hoary and Breezy?
[09:44] <tyler_durden> nalioth how would i update?
[09:44] <raetsel> nialoth - I've found a few makes of ethernet to wireless bridges or converters including one made by Belkin the same as my router so that sounds a smooth option and only 50. Thanks for the lead nalioth
[09:45] <Rev-Marc> Thank you I am very new to Linux.. I will try that
[09:45] <loco> He people, do you know how to enable dual display (spanned) in UBUBTU?
[09:45] <dmlinux> Ok heres the scoop, im trying to patch something i dont know what im supposed to be patching, and this guy emails me and says :::"you need to use the 2.6.13-mh1 patch to get full report mode protocol
[09:45] <dmlinux> support"    Now i have http://www.holtmann.org/linux/kernel/patch-2.6.13-mh2.gz to patch it with. how and where do i patch what file...
[09:46] <dmlinux> NOT PASTED !
[09:46] <Xanadu> arioch_ I'm pretty sure there were. The Systems->Preferences->Multimedia selection now uses ESD for out and OSS for in which is different
[09:46] <JDigital> EasterSunshine: so how do I use Ethereal to find out what programs are using it
[09:46] <EasterSunshine> Xanadu: thx a lot, the smb share is finally working
[09:46] <EasterSunshine> JDigital: you can't do it directly
[09:46] <Xanadu> EasterSunshine Excellent! You can also put it in your fstab
[09:46] <nalioth> tyler_durden: in synaptic hit the 'reload' button in the top left, then "mark all upgrades" and then "apply" (just like ubotu told you)
[09:46] <grgcsmc> can some1 help me
[09:46] <nalioth> raetsel: np, enjoy
[09:46] <tyler_durden> it didnt tell me anything
[09:46] <raetsel> what is the problem grgcsmc
[09:46] <tyler_durden> but ok ty
[09:46] <grgcsmc> i need to install breezy
[09:47] <EasterSunshine> JDigital: look at the ports, destination ips, and contents, of the packets and figure out which program would send such packets
[09:47] <nalioth> raetsel: ##apple is also available for your ppclinux questions
[09:47] <grgcsmc> i have the iso file
[09:47] <raetsel> grgcsmc, ok
[09:47] <raetsel> thx, nalioth
[09:47] <prototype-f> anyone having problems with azureus not starting?
[09:47] <tyler_durden> nalioth i ask ubuto what is synaptic and he says he lost me lol
[09:47] <dmlinux> nalioth do you know what this guy is talking about from BlueZ when he told me to :::you need to use the 2.6.13-mh1 patch to get full report mode protocol
[09:47] <dmlinux> support.
[09:48] <grgcsmc> ratsel, how do i copy it to a disc
[09:48] <grgcsmc> correctly
[09:48] <nalioth> tyler_durden: you have to be identified to talk to ubotu. /msg ubotu synaptic
[09:49] <raetsel> ok grgcsmc what operating system are you on where you have the iso image?
[09:49] <grgcsmc> hoary
[09:49] <nalioth> dmlinux: that person wants you to use an unstable testing kernel
[09:49] <grgcsmc> on the desktop
[09:49] <tyler_durden> i identified already. he responds to synaptic though, thats weird cuz when i ask him "what is synaptic" he doesnt understand
[09:49] <tyler_durden> ok thanks
[09:49] <Xanadu> grgcmc you should be able to right-click and say "burn to disk" or something like that
[09:49] <_jason> any idea why when I run gedit I get: (gedit:9235): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib ?
[09:49] <tng> may i ask how di i get root passwd for kubuntu ?
[09:49] <grgcsmc> i already copied it to a dice
[09:50] <grgcsmc> disc*
[09:50] <dmlinux> nalioth hmmm well how do i install that? lol
[09:50] <Xanadu> tng it's the password of your first user
[09:50] <grgcsmc> but , how do i install it
[09:50] <nalioth> dmlinux: i dont adivse use of unstable testing kernels
[09:50] <raetsel> grgcsmc I'd look at installed gnome-baker that is a nice graphical tool for CD burning and has options for writing ISO files
[09:50] <ssam> tng ubuntu uses sudo, instead of root
[09:50] <Hendric> can anyone tell me what im missin? i "apt-get mplayer-386 mozillamplayer w32codecs" but still i wasn't able to play video streams on firefox cause totem defaults on it.
[09:50] <dmlinux> nalioth ugh, thats what the developer of BlueZ told me to do to get my mouse scroll button working, nothing else will work
[09:51] <tng> humm
[09:51] <daejavu> is there a G Enviourment  for Python Language .... like Eclipse for Java ?
[09:51] <grgcsmc> i just need a simple and fast way of writing it and installing it
[09:51] <tng> well why would i always wanna sudo ?
[09:51] <Xanadu> Hendric: right-click on what you want to play, say "Open with other application", and then select mplayer
[09:51] <ssam> tng, your first user has admin powers, but need to type in their password to use them
[09:51] <grgcsmc> the file is copied  on a disc already
[09:51] <Hendric> Xanadu, not files.. video streams on websites... like yahooligans.yahoo.com
[09:51] <tng> oki ..
[09:51] <tng> well thanks for the info :D
[09:51] <Xanadu> oooh
[09:52] <Mithsir> How do I make OOo2 look more KDEish? I installed the ooo-kde package, but the menus still look strange.
[09:52] <ssam> tng read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:52] <Hendric> !mplayer
[09:52] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:52] <Xanadu> Hendric: that's in Firefox (or whatever your browser is) preferences
[09:52] <raetsel> it is mozilla-mplayer Hendric, did that component install ok?
[09:52] <Chadza> Anyone able to point me at how I run a .run file?
[09:52] <kevogod> w32codecs from http://user:pass@seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ fails to authenticate
[09:52] <ssam> tng, it explains the logic, and how to change it if you want
[09:52] <Xanadu> Hendric: There's also a mplayer plug-in for mozilla to play in-line
[09:53] <tng> ssam: thanks ..
[09:53] <grgcsmc> ratsel, can u pm me?
[09:53] <Hendric> raetsel, it did installed ok.. the problem is.. totem defaults as the player...
[09:53] <Xanadu> Hendric: what browser u using?
[09:53] <Hendric> Xanadu, firefox... someone here taught me and it worked ok on my last install
[09:54] <tng> well i have another nice question also i have battled with. How can i idwentify my monitor easiest? would like to run 1600x1200 and 75Hz instead of 60Hz like now
[09:54] <raetsel> sure grgcsmc, doing it now...... ( I think )
[09:54] <Hendric> i forgot all the apt-get he told me thou
[09:54] <Xanadu> Hendric: in firefox, click Edit->Preferences->File types
[09:54] <ssam> tng, there are endless arguments on the forums about whether its a more secure way to do stuff, but the logic seems good to me
[09:54] <Xanadu> oops i mean Downloads
[09:55] <raetsel> r u there, grgcsmc?
[09:55] <grgcsmc> ya
[09:55] <Xanadu> Hendric: under file types it'll have any types of files that get automatically opened by a certain app.
[09:55] <Hendric> Xanadu, there is no filetypes under preferences
[09:55] <bram> hi
[09:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tng about fixres
[09:55] <Xanadu> Hendric: Ok there's a plugins button just below that - click that
[09:56] <Hendric> Xanadu, got it.. next?
[09:56] <lukas> newbie at linux here - anyone got time to help on small issue?
[09:56] <rawiramdhan> how do i cp a map with al subfiles ?
[09:56] <Hendric> Xanadu, you can't anything there.. you can only disable or enable a plugin
[09:56] <Xanadu> Hendric: Okay i've never done this before, but you should be able to untick the video types and the next time you click to download it should ask you which app you want to open with
[09:56] <raetsel> fire away lukas
[09:57] <Hendric> Xanadu, i'll try
[09:57] <ssam> lukas,  whats up?
[09:57] <grgcsmc> i think i found a solution
[09:57] <lukas> right - small one - my laptop doesn't go into suspend mode when i close the lid and i can't find anyway do fix it...
[09:57] <raetsel> well only one way to tell for sure grgcsmc, try and boot from the iso :o)
[09:57] <Hendric> Xanadu, still -> Totem could not play 'fd://0'
[09:58] <lukas> as it did under windows
[09:58] <Xanadu> Hendric: :(
[09:58] <Chadza> Anyone able to point me at how I run a .run file?  It's supposed to install Alien Arena
[09:58] <ssam> lukas,  that could be tricky
[09:58] <lukas> guess so ;)
[09:58] <ssam> lukas,  are you running hoary or breezy?
[09:58] <raetsel> lukas, will is suspend if you choose the options from the menu in Linux? that is the first step
[09:58] <Skid> Chadza: chmod +x filename.bin, and then ./filename.bin
[09:58] <Skid> (or sh filename.bin)
[09:58] <lukas> hoary
[09:58] <Chadza> Thank ya Skid
[09:59] <Skid> Chadza: alien arena - a linux game?
[09:59] <lukas> from the log out menu?
[09:59] <ssam> raetsel, good call, didn't think of that
[09:59] <Chadza> Skid: Yep.
[09:59] <ssam> lukas, yes
[09:59] <Skid> Chadza: hmm, cool don't suppose you have a url handy? :)
[09:59] <raetsel> lukas - not sure where the option is myself, never tried it
[09:59] <raetsel> thx, ssam
[09:59] <Xanadu> Hendric: try "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"
[09:59] <lukas> ssam, havn't tried
[09:59] <lukas> hang on
[10:00] <ssam> lukas, good luck
[10:00] <lukas> and if it does?
[10:00] <Xanadu> Hendric: Then close Firefox, open again, and try
[10:00] <Hendric> Xanadu, i already did that
[10:00] <Chadza> Skid, I will in one sec.
[10:00] <Skid> ahh, a quake mod?
[10:00] <raetsel> lukas, then that is half the battle :o) suspend under linux is "newish" territory
[10:00] <ssam> lukas, then it is a case of figuring out why the lid wont trigger suspend
[10:00] <Hendric> Xanadu, and the installation sa smooth.. but still totem plays the stream on firefox
[10:00] <Chadza> Skid: Yep.
[10:00] <ssam> lukas, other wise, its a case of can linux suspend on your hardware
[10:01] <lukas> alright see you in a bit then...
[10:01] <Chadza> http://www.planetquake.com/cor/codered/
[10:01] <rawiramdhan> how do i cp a map with al subfiles ?
[10:01] <Xanadu> Hendric: Sorry dude out of ideas. But I think it's a Firefox prob not an Ubuntu/Totem/Mplayer problem
[10:01] <grgcsmc> can some1 help me install breezy?
[10:01] <raetsel> it's not natural, suspending a unix kernel :o)
[10:01] <Chadza> Skid: I found this great page on wiki that I'm checking out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_First-Person_Shooters
[10:01] <Hendric> Xanadu, for sure.. :)
[10:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell grgcsmc about upgrade2breezy
[10:02] <ssam> raetsel, i wonder how apple got it all so smooth
[10:02] <Hendric> Xanadu, but someone here taught me 2 days ago.. can't remember who.. it worked
[10:02] <Skid> Chadza: thanks
[10:02] <rawiramdhan> how do i cp a map with al subfiles ?
[10:02] <_jason> any idea why when I run gedit I get: (gedit:9235): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib ?
[10:02] <joakim> Hi everybody, What should I install to start doing C# programming on breezy?
[10:02] <nalioth> _jason: does gedit start?
[10:02] <La_PaRCa> hey, how can I change serpentine's cache directory?
[10:02] <raetsel> ssam, good point. Mind you my emac was a bit of an insomniac and would wake up for no good reason ( often in middle of night )
[10:02] <_jason> nalioth:  yes runs find
[10:02] <grgcsmc> hello....
[10:03] <nalioth> _jason: then disregard. we all get that msg
[10:03] <_jason> nalioth:  ok just wanted to make sure nothing was wrong thanks
[10:03] <ssam> raetsel, works good for me on a powerbook with ubuntu, as long as i dont unplug or replug the mouse or pcmcia card while its asleep
[10:03] <nalioth> _jason: if you run it from the start menu, you wont see that stuff (when you start things from terminal, you'll see many unusual things)
[10:03] <Hendric> Xanadu, i got it working now... uninstalled totem lolx
[10:03] <raetsel> ssam, well in a couple of days I'll be putting ubuntu on my emac, my previous commend was about under OS/X
[10:03] <Xanadu> lol!
[10:04] <Xanadu> Hendric u won't miss it ;P
[10:04] <raetsel> harsh but fair, hendric
[10:04] <ssam> raetsel, cool
[10:04] <raetsel> a bit of a "gordian knot" approach
[10:04] <Xanadu> ok night all have a great Sunday evening (or whatever it is for you)
[10:04] <_jason> nalioth:  gedit 2> /dev/null :D
[10:04] <raetsel> by Xanadu
[10:04] <kevogod> I prefer Totem for whatever reason.
[10:04] <Hendric> lolx.. this wasn't the right solution but its 4am now.. and need to ghost this setup on 5PCs...
[10:05] <raetsel> ouch @ Hendric
[10:05] <mustard5> anyone ever had problems with X suddenly shutting down and restarting at the gnome login prompt?
[10:06] <Hendric> raetsel, i learned something on ghosting linux systems... LVM is impossible to ghost on unidentical drives...
[10:06] <joakim> Hi everybody, What should I install to start doing C# programming on breezy? Anyone?
[10:06] <mustard5> what logs would I look in to troubleshoot X fatal errors?
[10:06] <ssam> joakim, mono
[10:06] <omp> is it official that there will be a Xubuntu in the future?
[10:06] <grgcsmc> the info ubotu didnt help
[10:06] <Hendric> better get going.. bye
[10:07] <grgcsmc> the info ugotu gave me* didnt help
[10:07] <wBryce_> anyone here use oprofile with breezy?
[10:07] <tahorg> hi, I'm trying to burn a dvd with my SOSW-852S (liteOn slimtype on Acer)
[10:07] <tahorg> but growisofs just barks at me
[10:07] <nalioth> omp: xubuntu?
[10:07] <wBryce_> I tried to add event's but it's not noticing. opcommand succeds though.
[10:08] <tahorg> dmesg shows no DVD-RW capacity
[10:08] <omp> nalioth: ubuntu with xfce as default
[10:08] <tahorg> but on windows it works
[10:08] <joakim> ssam: Thanks
[10:08] <kevogod> nalioth, xfce4 version
[10:08] <Tomcat_> joakim: Try a search for C# in "description" in synaptics... there's loads of stuff.
[10:08] <tahorg> anyone ?
[10:08] <kevogod> omp, xubuntu-desktop is available in Breezy
[10:08] <grgcsmc> can any1 help me??
[10:09] <rawiramdhan> when I try to copy a dir. it says: cp: omitting directory `Liedjes/'
[10:09] <LarstiQ> rawiramdhan: try cp -a
[10:09] <omp> i came across this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[10:09] <grgcsmc> can some1 pm me?
[10:09] <Seveas> rawiramdhan, cp -r
[10:09] <ssam> joakim, dont really know beyand that, i do python not c#
[10:09] <[LethAL] > grgcsmc, If you ask
[10:09] <lukas_> well that didn't go to well...
[10:09] <ssam> lukas_, what happened
[10:09] <lukas_> hmm
[10:09] <raetsel> grgcsmc you might need to allow unregistered messages.... http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg
[10:09] <munk3h> yeah, if you still have trouble try: cp -rf
[10:09] <grgcsmc> huh?
[10:09] <lukas_> ssam, it went down on me - big time...
[10:10] <ssam> lukas_, ok
[10:10] <ssam> lukas_, do you have braodband?
[10:10] <frickel> Can someone explain how to install and use a font in xterm
[10:10] <lukas_> jupp
[10:10] <ssam> lukas_, then i would give the breezy preview live cd a go
[10:11] <lukas_> is it better?
[10:11] <ssam> lukas_, it the version that will come out next week
[10:11] <omp> i also did a WHOIS on xubuntu.org and it is registered by canonical
[10:11] <joakim> ssam, Its ok, worked like a charm. Just did my first hello word :)
[10:11] <ssam> lukas_, it may have a fix
[10:11] <ssam> joakim, :-)
[10:11] <nalioth> raetsel99: perhaps you can register and identify? many services are available on freenode to registered users
[10:12] <lukas_> ssam, maybe i should try that...
[10:12] <nxv_> help how to use my external usb sound? i get it displayed in kmix. aplay -l give the following http://phpfi.com/81669 so how can i get a sound from it?
[10:12] <ssam> lukas_, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/
[10:12] <frickel> Does someone know how to install and use a font for Xterm??
[10:12] <lukas_> ssam, burning cd:s in linux - how?
[10:12] <lukas_> ssam, iso:s?
[10:12] <nalioth> frickel: install all your xfont pkgs
[10:12] <ssam> lukas_, if it works with that then you dont need to mess around with obscure config files
[10:12] <frickel> nalioth: ok, I try
[10:13] <anethema> to burn cd's i dont mind gnomebaker
[10:13] <anethema> works well
[10:13] <anethema> sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[10:13] <ssam> lukas_, you probably want graveman
[10:13] <kevogod> Seveas: w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb fails to authenticate even with user:pass
[10:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kevogod about w32codecs
[10:14] <ssam> lukas_, in breezy you can just download the iso, right click on it and select burn to disk :-)
[10:14] <nalioth> kevogod: get em via ubotu
[10:15] <lukas_> apt-get install gnomemaker - couldn't find packet
[10:15] <ssam> lukas_, try sudo apt-get install gnomemaker
[10:15] <kevogod> nalioth, That still does not resolve the problem in that particular repository.
[10:16] <ssam> lukas_, or sudo apt-get install graveman
[10:16] <nalioth> Seveas: but that is seveas's repo, and he runs it as he sees fit
[10:16] <nalioth> kevogod: ^^^
[10:16] <leebojammin> hooowwww ttttttoo stop     keeyyyyyyrrrreeeeeepppppeeeeeeattt??????   arrrgggghhhhhh
[10:16] <lukas_> ssam, no luck
[10:16] <leebojammin> :((((
[10:16] <lukas_> ssam, no packet
[10:17] <RockyBurt> hm, i think ubuntu (breezy) needs to base the human theme off of clearlooks instead of industrial :(
[10:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lukas_ about sources
[10:17] <ssam> lukas_, have you enabled universe?
[10:17] <kafeine> nautilus crashes each time i try opening a folder
[10:17] <kafeine> any ideas?
[10:17] <lukas_> eh?
[10:17] <frickel> nalioth: is there something else to do?
[10:17] <ssam> lukas_, ok
[10:17] <kevogod> RockyBurt, I agree.
[10:17] <el_toro> kafeine: that happened to me after updates yesterday, a logout "fixed" it
[10:18] <nalioth> if you've installed all your xfonts, you should have more fonts available
[10:18] <ssam> lukas_, type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" without the quotes
[10:18] <kafeine> el_toro, i even rebooted afterwards
[10:18] <kafeine> to no luck
[10:18] <lukas_> ssam, and then
[10:18] <kevogod> I use Human Controls, Human Icons, and ClearLooks Window Border.
[10:19] <el_toro> kafeine: does it give you an error, or just the standard nautilus died dialog?
[10:19] <raetsel99> gnomemaker or gnomebaker?
[10:19] <ssam> lukas_, near the top is a line that starts deb, and ends "main restricted"
[10:19] <nalioth> kevogod: seveas has bandwidth limits. the w32codecs are available via bittorrent
[10:19] <bram> Does anyone know which PDD file to select when prompting it for installing a driver for printer ???
[10:19] <lukas_> aha
[10:19] <kevogod> nalioth, I got them. Thanks though.
[10:19] <ssam> lukas_, add "universe" to the end of the line, (with out the quotes)
[10:19] <kafeine> el_toro, painfully standard
[10:19] <ssam> lukas_, then save
[10:19] <nalioth> lukas_: and also add "multiverse"
[10:20] <el_toro> kafeine: hm..are the logs any help?
[10:20] <bram> Does anyone know which PDD file to select when prompting it for installing a driver for printer ???
[10:20] <bram> Does anyone know which PDD file to select when prompting it for installing a driver for printer ???
[10:20] <lukas_> ssam, so main restricted universe multiverse?
[10:20] <nalioth> bram: repeating is not polite
[10:20] <nalioth> lukas_: yes
[10:20] <ssam> lukas_, yes
[10:20] <kafeine> el_toro, which logs to look at?
[10:20] <ssam> lukas_, then save and close
[10:21] <lukas_> ssam, and then run apt-get again?
[10:21] <el_toro> kafeine: actually, does nautilus crash when run from a term?
[10:21] <david_> hy
[10:21] <nalioth> lukas_: apt-get update
[10:21] <david_> how can i remove orginal nvidia driver?
[10:21] <ssam> lukas_, if you like open synaptic from, system -> administration in the menu at the top of the screen
[10:21] <ssam> lukas_, its a nice user interface for apt-get
[10:21] <bytefoo> hey dudes, how do i add a program to startup
[10:21] <lukas_> ssam, either way
[10:22] <kafeine> el_toro, yup
[10:22] <nalioth> bytefoo: system > prefs > sessions
[10:22] <lukas_> ssam, lets do it terminal style ;)
[10:22] <ssam> lukas_, sudo apt-get update
[10:22] <ssam> lukas_, sudo apt-get install graveman gnomebaker
[10:23] <el_toro> kafeine: if you run it w/debug flag does it give you any useful error msgs?
[10:23] <ssam> lukas_, so that you have a choice of both programs
[10:23] <needlz_> hi
[10:23] <lukas_> ssam, nope
[10:23] <nalioth> lukas_: pssst, k3b is more featured than  either of those 2 burners
[10:23] <kafeine> el_toro, it just fixed itself:D
[10:23] <el_toro> kafeine: fantastic.
[10:23] <Strike4ce> Im using nero express how should I burn the image file as a data disc or record as image
[10:23] <ssam> lukas_, apt not happy?
[10:23] <_jason> bytefoo:  system > preferences > sessions > startup programs
[10:23] <kafeine> el_toro, thank you for the support:)
[10:23] <bytefoo> k thnx
[10:23] <bytefoo> added tilda and beagle :D
[10:23] <thompa> i guess thats 2 borked installs now
[10:24] <ssam> lukas_, k3b is ok, if you dont mind all the kde librarys being installed
[10:24] <el_toro> kafeine: np
[10:24] <needlz_> i have updatet from hoary to breezy & i dont know why, but my sound isnt working anymore :D checked mit lsmod & aplay -l...all seems to be fine. any other tricks? :/
[10:24] <lukas_> should i take the # away inte the source list?
[10:24] <nalioth> bytefoo: i answered you when you asked.. .. ..
[10:24] <bytefoo> i said thanks jackass, no need to throw a hissy fit
[10:24] <lukas_> k3b?
[10:24] <Strike4ce> Im using nero express how should I burn the image file as a data disc or record as image
[10:24] <ssam> lukas_, k3b is ok, if you dont mind all the kde librarys being installed
[10:24] <lukas_> ssam, alright
[10:24] <nalioth> bytefoo: your language isnt appreciated
[10:25] <ssam> lukas_, its the kde cd burner
[10:25] <lukas_> how do i install the kde library then?
[10:25] <Seveas> Stricklin, record as image
[10:25] <nalioth> lukas_: apt-get will install all necessary pkgs
[10:25] <a_monkey> anybody know where i can find a debian/ubuntu mplayer package
[10:25] <a_monkey> ?
[10:25] <ssam> lukas_, when you apt-get install k3b, apt will do it for you
[10:25] <Seveas> a_monkey, it's called mplayer-386 (or -586 or -k7 etc...)
[10:25] <Tomcat_> a_monkey: There's one in the universe repository
[10:26] <Seveas> multiverse*
[10:26] <Auxin> y can't i install libgtk-1.2.so.0 ?
[10:26] <a_monkey> Tomcat_: oh
[10:26] <kafeine> el_toro, the problem seemed to be the iconset i was using
[10:26] <transparentdream> Why can't i ./configure a file in ubuntu?
[10:26] <lukas_> apt really seems to be sad...
[10:26] <kafeine> really weird
[10:26] <munk3h> \exit
[10:26] <Seveas> Auxin, because that's not a package name
[10:26] <a_monkey> i heard it was somehow illegal or something to include mplayer in a distro's repository
[10:26] <el_toro> kafeine: weird...which iconset is it?
[10:26] <lukas_> ssam, that didn't work either...
[10:26] <Seveas> transparentdream, paste the error on the pastebin
[10:26] <Auxin> ok Seveas despite that ;)
[10:26] <ssam> lukas_, what did it say
[10:26] <nalioth> transparentdream: it may not be marked 'executable' try "sh configure"
[10:26] <transparentdream> what's the pastebin...? and which should i do first
[10:26] <lukas_> could not find packet
[10:26] <ssam> lukas_, did you do "sudo apt-get update"?
[10:26] <tristanmike> Strike4ce, sorry, burn image
[10:26] <Seveas> Auxin, find the package this file is in (hint: gtk-1.2 oslt)
[10:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell transparentdream about pastebin
[10:27] <kafeine> el_toro, dropline etiquette
[10:27] <AngryParsley> gah, I finally got samba working, but copying files over the network seems really slow
[10:27] <Auxin> ah .. k
[10:27] <Seveas> transparentdream, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:27] <lukas_> ssam, yes
[10:27] <needlz_> again: i updatet from hoary to breezy. after that, i watched a movie & shutdown the pc. today i booted ubuntu again and i dont know why, but the sound "disapperead" :) i checked with lsmod & aplay -l..all seems to be fine. even if i play mp3s with xmms, it shows NO error msg...works just fine. oh..i checked alsamixer too...but that should be confed fine too.... any idea where the problem is? thanks!
[10:27] <tristanmike> Strike4ce, don't burn as a data disc
[10:27] <AngryParsley> it shouldn't take 50 minutes to copy 30 megs of mp3s
[10:27] <ssam> lukas_, did it seem to work ok
[10:27] <Seveas> needlz_, checked the cable connections?
[10:27] <el_toro> kafeine: reminds me of the time I changed my cursor theme and X wents nuts for a few days til I changed it back
[10:27] <Auxin> well.. there's not gtk1.2 there's just gtk2. blah
[10:27] <lukas_> ssam, :(
[10:27] <Seveas> or the power switch
[10:27] <needlz_> Seveas : notebook :)
[10:27] <Seveas> needlz_, ah :)
[10:27] <HYPOKRIT> yup...
[10:27] <needlz_> Seveas : and it works under windows *cough* :)
[10:28] <Seveas> needlz_, output of amixer on the pastebin kplzthx :)
[10:28] <nalioth> lukas_: read the things ubotu has sent you, please
[10:28] <Auxin> what to do Seveas if there's no gtk1.x?
[10:28] <transparentdream> done
[10:28] <Seveas> Auxin, what was the filename again?
[10:28] <Auxin> libgtk-1.2.so.0
[10:28] <Auxin> afair
[10:28] <needlz_> Seveas : kk one sec :)
[10:28] <ssam> lukas_, ok try sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list again
[10:28] <gamester> new to linux, and I need to know how do  change my monitor settings., as my ibm monitor which I know can do more than 640, is stuck as having only that rez ??
[10:29] <HYPOKRIT> hey games
[10:29] <lukas_> could not find packet - but in swedish
[10:29] <HYPOKRIT> eays
[10:29] <HYPOKRIT> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:29] <gamester> HYPOKRIT, ?
[10:29] <Auxin> gamester, enter this in a terminal...
[10:29] <gamester> HYPOKRIT, oh ok ill try..
[10:29] <HYPOKRIT> that how to do gamester
[10:29] <transparentdream> What should i do?
[10:29] <lukas_> ssam, yes
[10:30] <Seveas> transparentdream, apt-get install build-essential libgnome-dev
[10:30] <transparentdream> kk, lemme try
[10:30] <Auxin> Seveas, or do u know another possibility to install winetools ?
[10:30] <Seveas> Auxin, libgtk1.2
[10:30] <HYPOKRIT> ...
[10:30] <Seveas> Auxin, hehe: apt-get install wine winetools :)
[10:30] <HYPOKRIT> ok my turn...
[10:30] <Auxin> lol...
[10:31] <lukas_> ssam, done that
[10:31] <CzarAlex> is there a console command to display system stats such as processor speed and ram? that kinda stuff?
[10:31] <ssam> lukas_, and put "universe multiverse" on the end of all the other lines that have "main restricted"
[10:31] <Auxin> nice try Seveas ;)
[10:31] <HYPOKRIT> i can't get X start
[10:31] <nalioth> CzarAlex: lswh
[10:31] <bloodnik> lo
[10:31] <Auxin> lo bloodnik :)
[10:31] <Seveas> Auxin, wine is in multiverse, winehq has repositories too
[10:31] <nalioth> CzarAlex: i'm sorry it's lshw
[10:31] <HYPOKRIT> always written screen not found
[10:31] <Auxin> i konw..
[10:31] <Auxin> Seveas, but winetools not
[10:31] <Auxin> ;)
[10:31] <bloodnik> Anyone have a handy direct link to the amd64 ISO for breezy because the website's taking forever to load
[10:31] <CzarAlex> nalioth,  Thank you
[10:32] <needlz_> Seveas : http://pastebin.ca/25049
[10:32] <lesshaste> can anyone with mame try http://spectrummagic.emuunlim.com/Games/Jetsetw1.zip for me please and tell me how to get it working?
[10:32] <Seveas> Auxin, iirc these are included in the wine package, but i haven't used wine in a while
[10:32] <Auxin> Seveas, so much i do know..
[10:32] <lukas_> ssam, ok
[10:33] <lukas_> ssam, done
[10:33] <Auxin> that they aren't included
[10:33] <RockyBurt> hmm... if nvidia updates their xorg driver for linux... does ubuntu automatically update or do i need to run some script to fetch the latest again?
[10:33] <Seveas> needlz_, PCM is muted...
[10:33] <ssam> lukas_, then save and close
[10:33] <transparentdream> It still says "configure: error: Did not find GdkPixbuf installed
[10:33] <transparentdream> :
[10:33] <lukas_> ssam, done
[10:33] <HYPOKRIT> Is there someone that can give me a hint... Everytime i try to startX i got an server error....  No device detected,,,, no screens found
[10:33] <ssam> lukas_, sudo apt-get update
[10:33] <Seveas> needlz_, go to pcm in amixer and hit m
[10:33] <ssam> lukas_, sudo apt-get install graveman gnomebaker
[10:33] <raetsel99> good night all
[10:34] <Seveas> needlz_, go to pcm in *alsamixer* and hit m
[10:34] <bloodnik> It's a good thing no one answered me because I just realised I wanted x86
[10:34] <bloodnik> \o/ I win
[10:34] <needlz_> Seveas : yep, done, still doesnt work :(
[10:34] <lukas_> ssam, wow
[10:34] <kent> ssam, RockyBurt Ubuntu just gets security-updates, so if nvidia release a new driver he/she wont get it.  If you want the newest you should download it from nvidia.
[10:34] <lukas_> ssam, a lot happend
[10:34] <ssam> lukas_, thats a good sign :-)
[10:34] <needlz_> Seveas : i removed *all* mute status'
[10:34] <ssam> kent, was that to me?
[10:35] <RockyBurt> kent: well, i don't want to conflict with ubuntu's packaging so is there a "sane" way to update to the latest driver? or do i just do it ignoring .deb packaging ?
[10:35] <Seveas> needlz_, hmm, then I'm out of ideas
[10:35] <lukas_> ssam, seems to work
[10:35] <lukas_> ssam, :-)
[10:35] <Seveas> did you check the volume control in the application?
[10:35] <needlz_> hm :/
[10:35] <ssam> lukas_, yay
[10:35] <lukas_> so where do i find graveman now?
[10:35] <ssam> lukas_, have you got the beezy live cd downloading?
[10:36] <ssam> lukas_, it should be in application -> accessories
[10:36] <lukas_> ssam, it's on the way - something is giving me slow speed though
[10:36] <needlz_> Seveas : yep
[10:36] <needlz_> Seveas : even tried mplayer, aplay etc
[10:36] <transparentdream> Seveas, it said "configure: error: Did not find GdkPixbuf installed
[10:36] <transparentdream> "
[10:36] <kent> ssam, sorry. Wrong person :)
[10:36] <Auxin> xdialog:
[10:36] <ssam> kent, ok :-)
[10:36] <Auxin>  Hngt ab: libgtk1.2 (>=1.2.10-4) but it is not installable
[10:36] <a_monkey> hmm
[10:36] <Auxin> u c Seveas ?
[10:37] <a_monkey> i installed mplayer
[10:37] <kent> RockyBurt, then ignore the nvidia driver from ubuntus archive (or use it as long as there is no newer released by nvidia).
[10:37] <_jason> needlz_:  do you get errors when you run those things in the terminal?
[10:37] <a_monkey> now what command do i use to use it
[10:37] <needlz_> _jason : hm...
[10:37] <needlz_> _jason : some tiny errors
[10:37] <Auxin> although if installed libgtk1.2 manually?!
[10:37] <ssam> lukas_, once its downloaded, open graveman and find the duplicate cd option
[10:37] <needlz_> :)
[10:37] <Seveas> transparentdream, try apt-get build-dep gnome-panel (that'll drag in a lot of what you need to compile)
[10:37] <needlz_> _jason : ah no
[10:38] <lukas_> ssam, I think I'll manage from here - thanks a lot!
[10:38] <ssam> lukas_, then select the breezy iso file as the source and the cdr drive as the target
[10:38] <needlz_> _jason : now i dont get any error..xmms showed me once something..but not about sound
[10:38] <ssam> lukas_, ok, if you are lucky suspend should work in breezy, they have done a lot of work on laptop support
[10:38] <RockyBurt> ok... in ubuntu is there anyway to configure acpi (or whatever pieces that are necessary) such that when i plug my power adapter into the AC it sets my cpuspeed to max but when i'm unplugged from AC it uses speedstepping on the cpuspeed ?
[10:38] <lukas_> ssam, you know what to add in the source file to get xmms?
[10:38] <_jason> needlz_:  oh I don't know then.. thought that might give you a clue
[10:39] <mustard5> anyone ever had problems with X suddenly shutting down and restarting at the gnome login prompt?
[10:39] <ssam> you should be able to get it now that you have universe
[10:39] <ssam> lukas_, you might also want to try beep-media-player, it s like a new xmms
[10:39] <aCilnv> a quick question if i may .. following the ubuntuguide for hoary , i can't find the sun-j2sdk1.5 package in the apt sources listed .. anyone knows where i can get it ?
[10:40] <steigweis> please suzggest a good burning tool for ubuntu
[10:40] <steigweis> dvd
[10:40] <lukas_> ssam, ok
[10:40] <needlz_> _jason : yup.. :/
[10:40] <_jason> !tell aCilnv about javadeb
[10:40] <lukas_> ssam, care to help - if i'm not to much so far ;)
[10:40] <nalioth> aCilnv: /msg ubotu javadeb
[10:40] <needlz_> this is so weird :/
[10:40] <aCilnv> ta guys
[10:40] <ssam> lukas_, yep
[10:41] <ssam> lukas_, sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[10:42] <lukas_> ssam, oh - that easy...
[10:42] <ranok> ack
[10:42] <[LethAL] > How do I go about changing my /boot folder? It's on hdb2 currently but I want to merge it with my root fs
[10:42] <ssam> lukas_, yes, apt-get is very powerful
[10:42] <lukas_> ssam, I'm not getting any fancy icons for my new programs though... :-(
[10:42] <Cryptid> Has any body herd of Smart Movie Converter (For Symbian series 60 smart phones) is there a converter of this type for Linux?
[10:42] <ranok> operation not permitted while modprobing ndiswrapper?
[10:43] <ranok> anyone?
[10:43] <ssam> lukas_, it has super cow powers, "sudo apt-get moo"
[10:43] <nalioth> lukas_: you'll have to restart your gnome-panel to see them or log out and back in
[10:43] <GameGod> ranok: did you do a sudo modprobe?
[10:43] <ranok> yes
[10:43] <ssam> lukas_, yes a common problem in hoary
[10:43] <GameGod> odd
[10:43] <ranok> and my trach icon is missing
[10:44] <ranok> trash
[10:44] <[LethAL] > :-(
[10:44] <ssam> lukas_, some programs dont install menu items, its much better in breezy
[10:44] <needlz_> hmmmmmmmmmm
[10:44] <HYPOKRIT> HEY...
[10:44] <ssam> lukas_, you can always do alt+f2 and type the name of a program
[10:44] <needlz_> does anyone else have an idea how i can fix my sound problem? :)
[10:44] <lukas_> so, breezy will come in sharp version next week?
[10:44] <ssam> lukas_, its slated for the 13th
[10:44] <[LethAL] > Amazing... with this low amount of traffic, still no answer to any question i ask :'(
[10:44] <HYPOKRIT> should i d/l a special file for my ati radeon ... or my dell screen
[10:45] <ssam> lukas_, and i think it will be on time
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> HYPOKRIT,  'special' ?
[10:45] <HYPOKRIT> i can't start X Dr_Willis
[10:45] <RockyBurt> hm, as of the last few days... if i go in to change my icons in my theme, it doesn't work until i log back into gnome ... anyone know what might be going on?
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> may want to check the wiki/forums - its possible that the x config file - needs the driver set differently.
[10:46] <lukas_> ssam, ok - I'll go enjoy my new programs now - thanks again!
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> it may be tryying to use 'ati' when  it should be using 'radeon' or visa-versa
[10:46] <HYPOKRIT> i dont know how to go see the wiki forum
[10:47] <HYPOKRIT> I'm a Beginner lame
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> google for 'ubuntu wiki' :P
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> and ubuntu forums   -->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> google is our friend.
[10:48] <HYPOKRIT> =)
[10:48] <[LethAL] > scroogle!
[10:48] <Cryptid> is there a alternative to trancode software Coz i am unable to get it to work so please lemme know a alterative to this which has more all less the same functions as transcoder
[10:48] <frickel> What do I need to do to fix that: freak@firestation:~$ xterm -font cmatrix-xfont
[10:48] <frickel> xterm:  unable to open font "cmatrix-xfont", trying "fixed"....
[10:48] <HYPOKRIT> in console it's working
[10:48] <steigweis> please suzggest a good burning tool for ubuntu
[10:48] <[LethAL] > steigweis, Petrol and a match
[10:48] <[LethAL] > Oh, for Ubuntu :P
[10:48] <[LethAL] > What do you want to burn?
[10:49] <steigweis> -r dvd and anything else
[10:49] <HYPOKRIT> it's cool to know that Dr_willis but i can't use google in console
[10:49] <[LethAL] > Oh... No idea about DVD writing, sorry
[10:49] <[LethAL] > HYPOKRIT, apt-get install lynx
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> HYPOKRIT,  'lynx' is a console web browser.
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> :P
[10:49] <[LethAL] > :D
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> and links,
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> and w3m
[10:49] <GameGod> elinks is good too
[10:49] <[LethAL] > links2 actually :P
[10:50] <GameGod> lol
[10:50] <HYPOKRIT> okay thanx... just dont know
[10:50] <needlz_> i HATE SOUND PROBLEMS
[10:50] <needlz_> !@#
[10:50] <needlz_> :D
[10:50] <ubotu> needlz_: What?
[10:50] <needlz_> damn
[10:51] <luny> how do I insert special characters like I used to in win using Alt- and the code number
[10:52] <HYPOKRIT> ... it's nice to use sudo...
[10:52] <Cryptid> steigweis, k3b is good
[10:52] <HYPOKRIT> but when i want to return to normal user... what is the command
[10:52] <HYPOKRIT> who the freind of sudo
[10:52] <kevogod> sudo is temporary
[10:52] <Sarkie> exit
[10:52] <[LethAL] > ^^
[10:52] <HYPOKRIT> shit
[10:52] <HYPOKRIT> i,m a dweed
[10:53] <Sarkie> seems so
[10:53] <[LethAL] > If you do sudo -i it's logout
[10:53] <HYPOKRIT> HEHEHE
[10:53] <_jason> HYPOKRIT:  sudo -K
[10:53] <HYPOKRIT> thanx
[10:53] <steigweis> Cryptid: but k3b says, that my dvd-writer can only do 4x. but it can do 8x. i dont know a way to fix that :>
[10:53] <aurax> how can i add user that wont be able to access ssh but just ftp?
[10:59] <RockyBurt> blech, if i replace powernowd with cpufreqd, ubuntu-desktop needs to be uninstalled... i don't like removing that particular pseudo pkg
[10:59] <Cryptid> steigweis, well id ont have a DVD-WR but then keep asking ppl here they might be knowing wat the problem is ne ways there might be a plugin or something too fix the problem
[11:01] <steigweis> thanks
[11:01] <apollo2011> hi everyone
[11:01] <apollo2011> I just upgraded to Breezy, and the 3d support driver was scrapped.  What is the dpkg-reconfigure command to reconfigure X and select the 3d-support nvidia driver?
[11:02] <HYPOKRIT> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:02] <HYPOKRIT> this is what i learn today here
[11:04] <Pres-Gas> Hey all
[11:06] <Pres-Gas> I am running Breezy and installed vnc4server.  I cannot seem to get vnc to work.  I get the messages that it is starting and logging and then it is not there in the processes.  I have the log entry from my ~.
[11:06] <apollo2011> HYPOKRIT:  thx, I couldn't remember what it was. :-)
[11:07] <HYPOKRIT> no problemo
[11:07] <Pres-Gas> I get a Fatal server error:  could not open defalult font 'fixed'.  Would that gum up the whole works?
[11:07] <a_monkey> for some reason when i install mplayer, all i get in /usr/bin is gmplayer - a stupid broken symlink
[11:07] <a_monkey> no binaries
[11:08] <_jason> a_monkey:  what packages did you install
[11:08] <Pres-Gas> _jason, you asking me or a_monkey?
[11:08] <a_monkey> _jason: mplayer-g4
[11:08] <a_monkey> _jason: i'm on an emac g4
[11:09] <nalioth> a_monkey: you'll have to compile mplayer yourself
[11:09] <a_monkey> aww
[11:09] <a_monkey> why is that?
[11:09] <nalioth> a_monkey: if you want a full functioning mplayer
[11:09] <a_monkey> oh
[11:09] <fx^> how do I run a program that requires root access in ubuntu?
[11:09] <_jason> !tell fx^ about sudo
[11:09] <nalioth> a_monkey: i recommend you install all the audio/video libs you plan on viewing/listening to so mplayer can be compiled against them
[11:09] <anethema> sudo
[11:10] <fx^> I never got to set a root password, which I'm used to
[11:10] <a_monkey> so i can't JUST use the multiverse repo?
[11:10] <fx^> thanks
[11:10] <anethema> fx, you just use your normal password for sudo
[11:10] <nalioth> a_monkey: unfortunately that mplayer sucks hard
[11:10] <anethema> i like mplayer
[11:10] <nalioth> a_monkey: i run ppc ubuntu and i had to compile my own with aac support
[11:10] <anethema> the only one that actually works properly for me
[11:11] <nalioth> a_monkey: join #kubuntu-offtopic if you want more info on compiling mplayer
[11:12] <a_monkey> nathanj: kubuntu?
[11:12] <a_monkey> oops
[11:12] <a_monkey> that was for nalioth
[11:12] <Jerich> hi
[11:12] <nalioth> a_monkey: yes, it's quieter there
[11:12] <a_monkey> nalioth: oh ok. lol. thanks
[11:12] <a_monkey> oooooooooooo
[11:13] <a_monkey> 4 days to breezy
[11:13] <a_monkey> sweet
[11:13] <anethema> ive been running it for 4 days now :D
[11:13] <fx^> okay, another quickie, I have a Geforce 2 MX, is it easy to update the driver so I get OpenGL support and so on? since now flurry runs at like 1FPS
[11:13] <anethema> they upgraded zsnes today, woohoo
[11:13] <anethema> HORRIBLE card for 3D stuff fx^
[11:13] <anethema> but yes
[11:13] <anethema> !nvidia
[11:13] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:14] <anethema> -r ?
[11:14] <anethema> whats r
[11:14] <fx^> thanks again
[11:14] <nalioth> !umodes
[11:14] <ubotu> I don't know, nalioth
[11:14] <nalioth> !umode
[11:14] <ubotu> The freenode user modes are described at http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[11:14] <Jerich> does anybody know any web site that shows how which packages I can delete of ubuntu in order to increase the speed on an old laptop
[11:14] <Paradoxx> a_monkey: breezy in 4 days 4real?
[11:15] <hondje> the existance of packages on your harddrive has no effect on your speed
[11:15] <anethema> haha jesus, lots of people joining
[11:15] <hondje> it's what you're running that matters
[11:15] <evian> When I try to switch to nvidia drivers, my screen just goes black. Should I try installing them manually or try something else?
[11:15] <anethema> that +r really quites things down
[11:15] <Jerich> hondje well which services to disable I mean
[11:15] <hondje> evian: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say? look for errors there
[11:15] <evian> hondje thanks I didn't know to look there... looking
[11:16] <hondje> Jerich: easiest is to just use XFce4 for the desktop. By default, Ubuntu doesn't have a whole lot of extra services running
[11:16] <Cryptid> i am having problem playing games using cedega the graphics are not upto the mark so it it possible that i can install DirectX laest version using cedega and then play games?  Has ne one of u tried installing DirectX using Cedega
[11:16] <transparentdream> How do I get a selected application to automatically run on startup?
[11:16] <SogniX> does anyone know of a repository that is offering E17?
[11:16] <hondje> Cryptid: No
[11:17] <hondje> Cryptid: Cedega is Wine with a directx emulation thingie, in a way
[11:17] <RockyBurt> is there no GUI way of configuring power events (acpi) in ubuntu or do i have to manually edit the script files triggered on the actions in /etc/acpi  ?
[11:17] <hondje> So, you are already using what directx stuff you can when you're using cedega
[11:17] <jcsteele> is the breezy PR of ubuntu just ONE iso image...or is a new ISO built when bugs are fixed?
[11:17] <Jerich> hondje how can i delete gnome, and all the packages related to it
[11:17] <str8edge> transparentdream: check the System Menu | Preferences | Sessions
[11:17] <nalioth> jcsteele: it will always be ONE iso image, but you can upgrade your PR install using apt-get
[11:17] <ompaul> jcsteele, what is PR?
[11:17] <hondje> a final version will be released with all the updates available
[11:17] <nalioth> ompaul: preview release
[11:17] <Cryptid> hondje, is it? i didnt know then why dosent my game graphic configuration show OpenGL option and instead shows some HAL thing
[11:18] <ompaul> ahh RC release candidate
[11:18] <seethru> it always says HAL whether you're running opengl or directx
[11:18] <hondje> Jerich: xfce, and most apps, use a lot of the gnome libs anyways, so it's tricky in a way
[11:18] <ompaul> or am I missing something
[11:18] <jcsteele> i.e. i am having serious issues with a 3COM 3C509B NIC and cannot get any network connectivity with the latest release....the hardware works fine, because if i install hoary, it works fine...it also works fine with other OS's
[11:18] <Cryptid> seethru, wat is HAL
[11:18] <jcsteele> ok...so its a waste of bandwidth to download a new image then...
[11:19] <seethru> Hardware Abstraction Layer
[11:19] <hondje> Jerich: if hdd space is a concern, the easiest thing to do is a server installation of ubuntu, add universe and what not, and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:19] <ompaul> jcsteele, you could report that as a bug
[11:19] <ompaul> jcsteele, s/could/should/
[11:19] <jcsteele> ompaul: i cannot obtain enough information todo so...and i am not sure as to WHY its happening.
[11:20] <jcsteele> i think it has something todo with irq's....but nothing is confirmed.
[11:20] <hondje> dmesg doesn't offer any insight?
[11:20] <ompaul> jcsteele, get it out there - it works with X not with Y no one can fix it otherwise
[11:20] <jcsteele> i did recompile and build a new image with some printf's stuck in the irq handling code for debugging purposes...but it didn't help any.
[11:20] <stav> hi all, im an ubuntu newbie and would appreciate some help setting up a network bridge between a wifi card and AP
[11:21] <hondje> hehe, which reminds me that I really need to file a bug on gnome-applets
[11:21] <jcsteele> ompaul: well, my report isn't going to help anyone...it would be too vague.
[11:21] <RockyBurt> hm, how do i use sudo to redirect output to some file "as" root? because with    sudo echo "blah" > myfile.txt     it tries to do the output redirection part as a regular user
[11:21] <ompaul> jcsteele, did you do a grep for the hardware name in the source of breezy and hoary
[11:21] <jcsteele> which is why i was seeing if there was an "updated" image
[11:21] <jcsteele> ompaul: not hoary
[11:21] <ompaul> jcsteele, there is a daily build
[11:22] <jcsteele> ompaul: i just reinstalled hoary to confirm the nic did indeed work.
[11:22] <hondje> RockyBurt: the shell does the redirection before it does the sudo part
[11:22] <RockyBurt> hondje: right, this i know... is there anyway to work around that?
[11:22] <jcsteele> ompaul: does breezy support serial console output?
[11:22] <stav> hi all, im an ubuntu newbie and would appreciate some help setting up a network bridge between a wifi card and AP
[11:22] <seethru> stav: all you should need to do is put in the AP name, and WEP key, into the Gnome GUI for networking...
[11:22] <Jerich> honje thx !
[11:22] <ompaul> jcsteele, aint tried it
[11:23] <Jerich> hondje didn't know i could do a custom install
[11:23] <hondje> RockyBurt: yeah, but I don't remember :)
[11:23] <RockyBurt> lol
[11:23] <stav> seethru, thats fine i got that done
[11:23] <jcsteele> ompaul: i might check this route next....i have been beating my head against this for about 2 days now though, and i am very tempted to just wait for the final release to see if its been fixed.
[11:23] <transparentdream> Why won;t my Make work? I finally got ./configure to work, but now make won;t!
[11:23] <hondje> Jerich: it's an option, can't remember where though :)
[11:23] <seethru> and your wireless isn't working?
[11:24] <ompaul> jcsteele, do this, compare the source of haory AND breezy for drivers for your friend and see if it got dropped
[11:24] <anethema> what is xcompmgr
[11:24] <anethema> !xcompmgr
[11:24] <ubotu> No idea, anethema
[11:24] <anethema> doh
[11:24] <anethema> something that does all video rendering with the gpu or somehting is it not?
[11:24] <seethru> it's a buggy buggy program, do not use it
[11:25] <Joseole> oh
[11:25] <Joseole> thanks  nalioth
[11:25] <huhmz> Hi. /etc/fonts/fonts.conf says to edit local.conf, however no such file exists
[11:25] <nalioth> Joseole: in your xchat, open the server dialog, select "ubuntu servers" and click 'edit'. put your nickserv password in the "server password" spot
[11:26] <bernardictus> g'evening
[11:26] <stav> any idea on how to setup a bridge between two eth's?
[11:26] <anethema> im told in breezy its not nearly so buggy
[11:26] <anethema> seethru,
[11:26] <seethru> it is, speaking from experience :)
[11:26] <seethru> xcompmgr crashed gdm atleast once a day
[11:27] <bernardictus> im a total n00b to Linux, and I have a question
[11:27] <Joseole> ok
[11:27] <anethema> hmm
[11:27] <transparentdream> what files do i need to make and make install???
[11:27] <bernardictus> How do you install programs?
[11:27] <stav> any idea on how to setup a bridge between two eth's?
[11:28] <_jason> bernardictus:  synaptic package manager
[11:28] <bernardictus> I know im a lazy Mac/Windows bitch, but im trying this, but I can't seem to figure it out
[11:28] <hondje> RockyBurt: try sudo sh -c "echo "foo" > bar" ?
[11:28] <seethru> bernardictus: synaptic or apt-get. Google is your friend as is ubuntuforums.com :)
[11:28] <_jason> bernardictus:  it is in system > administration
[11:28] <bernardictus> ok
[11:28] <bernardictus> ty
[11:28] <RockyBurt> hondje: whoot, that did it, thanks
[11:28] <hondje> No problem :)
[11:29] <bernardictus> i must add, Ubuntu looks f*cking great!
[11:29] <bernardictus> better than mandrake
[11:29] <Pres-Gas> hmm....vnc4server is borked...but regular vncserver (3) is fine
[11:30] <Cryptid> hondje, i have a p3 933 Mhz and 810e motherboard if i upgrade my hardware and add a graphic accelerator will the same games start working better or will remain the same and i will have to wait till the next release of cedega????
[11:31] <hondje> Cryptid: depends on the game, or more accurately depends on what version of dx is being emulated. Theoretically faster hardware will work better, but at some point it doesn't change the outcome
[11:31] <seethru> Cryptid: which games?
[11:31] <abbot45> im having problems with my mp3 player.  it keeps saying its Read Only, when it isnt.  It works maybe 1/5 times that i plug it in.
[11:31] <gfxstyler> hi
[11:31] <lsuactiafner> where is the firefox lock file? made the PC crash twice and firefox didnt start properly last time
[11:31] <abbot45> i switched to Ubuntu in the first place because it was working good with my mp3 player.
[11:31] <Auxin> hi gfxstyler
[11:31] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: ~/.mozilla-firefox or ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[11:31] <gfxstyler> can someone tell me what "p4-clockmod: your cpu has a N60 errata" means?
[11:32] <abbot45> can anyone help me?
[11:32] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : i looked there but wil try again thanks
[11:32] <anethema> i dont get it...xcompmgr just says No composite extension
[11:32] <blueskies> hello, i have a gateway essential 400, celeron 400mhz 256mb ram, ATI rage 128 AGp
[11:32] <anethema> seethru, any idea?
[11:33] <anethema> i just wanna try it out
[11:33] <anethema> heh
[11:33] <Cryptid> hondje & seethru , i am trying to play the game Rollcage(my fav game)
[11:33] <blueskies> it is only running 640x480 ?
[11:33] <seethru> anethema: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DropShadows
[11:33] <anethema> wicked thanks
[11:33] <seethru> abbot45: sounds like it's being mounted with the wrong settings IMO
[11:34] <bernardictus> um ok, i still dont get it
[11:34] <bernardictus> how do you install stuff with kubuntu
[11:34] <SuperTails92> bernardictus: aptitude
[11:35] <bernardictus> cause i dont get this decompiling stuff
[11:35] <abbot45> seethru, what can i do about that?  like i said, it works ocasionaly.  i can restart the player and my computer and it doesn't make a difference.
[11:35] <seethru> bernardictus: errr you search for the program you want in the package manager and mark it for installation...
[11:35] <rakuco> Hello. I have downloaded a source package with apt-get source and now am trying to upgrade it to an upstream version for personal use with uupdate, but I get an "uupdate: a native Debian package cannot take upstream updates" error message. What should I do?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> decompiling? never done that :P
[11:35] <abbot45> seethru, seems pretty random.
[11:36] <Cryptid> where do i get SDL and SDL-devel???? i cannot find it in my repos
[11:36] <anethema> brb
[11:37] <seethru> abbot45: I agree...what mp3 player?
[11:37] <gfxstyler> Cryptid: libSDL and libSDL-dev ?
[11:37] <abbot45> seethru, Archos Gmini 400
[11:37] <seethru> abbot45: hoary or breezy?
[11:37] <bernardictus> aargh, why the hell did I ever de-install OSX & XP :P
[11:37] <iriedodge> xd
[11:37] <iriedodge> d
[11:37] <jose__> how can i set it up a usb wireless device?
[11:37] <abbot45> seethru, hoary
[11:38] <jose__> someone can help me?
[11:38] <iriedodge> #ubuntu
[11:38] <Cryptid> gfxstyler, thanx found it i actually have it installed
[11:38] <gfxstyler> bernardictus: OSX & XP? how is that possible?
[11:38] <kemik> bernardictus:  just reinstall? ;)
[11:38] <Maikeru> gfxstyler, the hacked up OS X for the x86 processor
[11:38] <Maikeru> it's not half bad
[11:38] <Maikeru> you gotta remove a file though
[11:38] <Maikeru> else OS X will run slow
[11:38] <gfxstyler> Maikeru: i didnt really thought that someone actually uses that shit
[11:39] <auk> yet
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> lol
[11:39] <tristanmike> gfxstyler, language
[11:39] <auk> i can tell my children i witnessed the death of the ppc
[11:39] <gfxstyler> tristanmike: sorry
[11:39] <auk> ;)
[11:39] <synackuator> does anyone have experience setting up wlan-ng drivers?
[11:39] <tristanmike> :)
[11:40] <auk> *intending
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> ive seen the death of the C64, C128, AMIGA (yes its dead get over it!) and BeOs. (yes its kicking but i say its dead)
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> :P
[11:40] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: it's clones are alive and well
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> Bad marketing kills soo many things...
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> thers a C64 clone sort of out also.. I hear. :P
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> the C= One.
[11:41] <auk> Dr_Willis: ouch
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> the "X-Game-Station" looks neat also. a do it yourself console..
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> more of a learnign tool then anything else however.
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> but still - learning is fun
[11:42] <auk> yes.
[11:42] <auk> but not the way they do it in school.
[11:42] <auk> i should be doin gmy homework right now...
[11:43] <gfxstyler> i havent done homeworks for 3 years already
[11:43] <pejcao> households r worst
[11:44] <gfxstyler> i need some sleep, bye
[11:45] <matzino> good night
[11:45] <spider_> i'm looking to make an .iso image on my hard drive, but don't know where to start
[11:46] <thunderguy> Hmm, I have a bit of a problem, I installed the fglrxconfig on a breezy I got, and when I rebooted everything is messed up, so I reinstalled the entire xserver, but I think it is a kernel module, you know how I might restore a kernel module for ( I'm guessing a gart driver )
[11:46] <spider_> i don't want to have to re-d/l the file to do it, since i have a cd with it burned on it already
[11:46] <pejcao> mkisofs ?
[11:46] <spider_> pejcao, is that to me?
[11:46] <pejcao> yer start
[11:47] <rubem> hi there!
[11:47] <spider_> anyone know how to turn a cd into an .iso on the hard drive?  a file?
[11:47] <rubem> is that the official backports: deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-backports-staging main universe multiverse restricted
[11:47] <rubem> deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-extras-staging main universe multiverse restricted
[11:47] <rubem> deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:47] <matzino> i cannot start scsi support to mount mi mp3 player!
[11:47] <rubem> ???
[11:47] <matzino> its annoying
[11:47] <nalioth> rubem: /msg ubotu backports
[11:47] <Fred|Fr3d> hey, my ubuntu server is set to auto-update the time in the time preferences (i use gnome to set all that stuff up), but it doesnt seem to be updating. how do i manually schedule an update using cron jobs?
[11:47] <thunderguy> spider_: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/filename.iso
[11:48] <nalioth> spider_: use k3b
[11:48] <rubem> nalioth: what???
[11:48] <spider_> Fred, as user, run crontab -e and add a line (man 5 crontab for the format)
[11:48] <matzino> please who could help me?
[11:48] <ReverendPenis> what up
[11:48] <Fred|Fr3d> thanks spider_. what should the command be for time update?
[11:48] <rubem> i just whant to know if I add this to sources.list will work: deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-backports-staging main universe multiverse restricted
[11:48] <rubem> deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-extras-staging main universe multiverse restricted
[11:48] <rubem> deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rubem about backports
[11:48] <rubixXx> someone stole my blasted name
[11:49] <spider_> thunderguy, if and of are input file and output file?  if so, i get it, thanks
[11:49] <nalioth> rubem: do not paste any more in here
[11:49] <nalioth> rubem: i'm trying to get you the info you request
[11:49] <thunderguy> spider_: No problem :) yeah, an iso is just a rare cd image, so data dumping it into a file named iso should work :)
[11:49] <thunderguy> raw*
[11:49] <nalioth> rubem: mirrormax is no longer with us. see ubotus msg
[11:49] <spider_> Fred, well, if you have smoething like the ntpdate command, you could run ntpdate and then whatever public ntp server is net-close to you there
[11:49] <spider_> ubotu, ntp servers
[11:49] <ubotu> spider_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:49] <spider_> ubotu, ntp
[11:49] <ubotu> spider_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:50] <Xorlev_> ubotu, mirrormax?
[11:50] <wulfy814> ok - question:  How do I stop apt from updating the kernel? I compile a few things and don't want to have them broken by some user doing apt-get upgrade
[11:50] <ubotu> Xorlev_: Are you on ritalin?
[11:50] <Fred|Fr3d> ok thanks spider_. so it should be ntpdate timeserver.somehost.com ?
[11:50] <nalioth> !backports
[11:50] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:50] <spider_> Fred, google for public ntp servers, there's a simple sitename, but i can't remember it
[11:50] <spider_> Fred, exactly
[11:50] <marska> Hello.. New install of Ubuntu and I'm finding Gnome is a bit slow. Installed XFCE and found that it still uses the Gnome libraries (even when disabled) and it is still slow when opening programs/files. Tried to uninstall gdm and install xdm but it crashes to the console and doesn't let me open either Gnome nor XFCE. Is there a way to install xdm and speed up my computer?
[11:50] <rubem> nalioth: sorry
[11:50] <Fred|Fr3d> well i have a nice list of them, so i'll just use a good one. thanks. :D
[11:51] <etnoy> marska: use standard unix xinitrc
[11:51] <marska> etnoy: What?
[11:51] <spider_> Fred, and don't make it hit the server too often, if this is in cron, be polite about it so you don't get blocked from there :-)
[11:51] <rubem> nalioth: I just don't know why didn't they just put which line I must put in the sources.list to have the official backports
[11:51] <marska> etnoy: I'm not familiar with that
[11:52] <burner> anyone familiar with the ubuntu breezy RC... I'm having issues with any apt-getting because of evolution-exchange package missing a "newline"
[11:52] <spider_> Fred, nevr hurts to fire off a thanks to the admin, if you'll be connecting regularly :-)  they're more forgiving if you do, lol
[11:52] <marska> rubem: There are no offical backports, it is all an illusion.
[11:52] <Fred|Fr3d> good point. thanks :D. it wants me to use sudo to use this... how do i use sudo in crontab?
[11:52] <nalioth> rubem: legal reasons
[11:52] <spider_> Fred, someone may know more than me, but i think the answer is "you don't"
[11:52] <Fred|Fr3d> and it gives me "9 Oct 22:51:52 ntpdate[28664] : the NTP socket is in use, exiting" when i run it
[11:52] <Fred|Fr3d> ok
[11:52] <Axel> bonjour tout le monde
[11:53] <Fred|Fr3d> could i put it in root's crontab?
[11:53] <spider_> Fred, i's use "sudo -s" to get to a root console (be careful!) and then add it to root's crontab
[11:53] <rubem> nalioth: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports ??
[11:53] <nalioth> Axel: bonjour, francais in #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait
[11:53] <Axel> ok je savais pas merci
[11:53] <spider_> Fred, but see if someone else has a different idea, less root-y :)
[11:53] <nalioth> rubem: read your bot mail
[11:53] <Fred|Fr3d> ok thanks. any idea about "9 Oct 22:51:52 ntpdate[28664] : the NTP socket is in use, exiting" ?
[11:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rubem about backports
[11:54] <burner> can anyone help me with this apt error?  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2954
[11:54] <anathema_> hey guys uhh
[11:54] <anathema_> some breezy update killed my X
[11:54] <anathema_> x wont boot anymore
[11:54] <bluefoxicy> God I'm a psycho :P
[11:54] <Kejk_PL> hi, how can I tune getty/login to do not change console font? console-screen.sh is setting correct console font at boot time, but after init processes getty's are running and changing console font :/
[11:55] <bluefoxicy> I just posted a message to Ubuntu Users
[11:55] <spider_> Fred|Fr3d, are you calling it too rapidly?  some screwy cron entry as well as manual?  it sounds like the ntp port is already in use
[11:55] <anathema_> i get the GDM but when i try to log in, i get errors
[11:55] <thunderguy> So is there a way to repair damage to faulty kernel module replacements?
[11:55] <seethru> anathema_: can you paste your xorg.conf to paste.ubuntulinux.org?
[11:55] <bluefoxicy> about making a text-based window manager and tool kit for making a text based desktop environment
[11:55] <nalioth> burner: you are a victim of bad packaging
[11:55] <anathema_> seethru: ill try in lynx
[11:55] <burner> nalioth, what can I do?
[11:55] <burner> nalioth, this was the RC of breezy :\
[11:55] <nalioth> try installing individually
[11:55] <Fred|Fr3d> spider_: well it's set to auto-update but it never does. i can disable this and manually update from the net and it works fine though :/
[11:55] <burner> nalioth, i did
[11:55] <anathema_> like, i havent even added the xcompmgr stuff yet
[11:56] <anathema_> so no idea why
[11:56] <burner> i even tried removing evolution-exchange
[11:56] <nalioth> burner: then d/l a newer daily http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
[11:56] <anathema_> says its not uid=0 so cant create /dev/X
[11:56] <nalioth> burner: or apt-get update
[11:56] <anathema_> im installing lynx
[11:56] <anathema_> my x conf hasnt changed at all so not sure why suddenly problems
[11:57] <burner> i apt-get updated... oh well... nalioth, think I should bother bug reporting or is this a known issue?
[11:57] <nalioth> burner: yes please research at bugzilla.ubuntu.com and either add it or comment it
[11:57] <anathema_> doh no mouse
[11:58] <anathema_> there we go
[11:58] <normal1_> hello
[11:58] <normal1_> =)
[11:58] <burner> will do, thanks Nakkel
[11:58] <burner> er.. Nakkel
[11:58] <marska> etnoy: What is a standard Unix xinitrc?
[11:58] <burner> bleh... stupid nick complete ;)
[11:58] <nalioth> burner: np
[11:59] <hondje> epithany is amazingly fast
[11:59] <shinu> i shouldnt be able to view the /root folder should i?
[11:59] <marska> hondje: Faster than XFCE?
[11:59] <hondje> XFce is a desktop environment
[11:59] <Madpilot> shinu: if you're just looking around in Nautilus, all the root stuff will be read only
[11:59] <marska> I'm using a slow laptop and Gnome doesn't work well.. And even XFCE lags badly
[11:59] <hondje> epithany is a gecko-based browser