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mhz | anyone here that may help me see WHY this DHCP local setting is not working? | 12:26 |
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mhz | please :) | 12:26 |
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mhz | Tengo: 1 tarro de server con 2 interfaces (eth0 y eth1) + 1 router Dlink (DI-704p) + 1 Modem VTR ( | 12:54 |
mhz | Motorola) | 12:54 |
mhz | arkan0x, sorry | 12:54 |
arkan0x | mhz: por pv | 12:55 |
mhz | arkan0x, me lees el PV? | 12:59 |
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mhz_edu | hay, alguine aca? | 03:55 |
mhz_edu | anyone here? | 03:55 |
pitux | yes | 03:57 |
pitux | mhz from chile? | 03:57 |
mhz_edu | indeed | 03:58 |
mhz_edu | you? | 03:58 |
mhz_edu | tambien? | 03:59 |
mhz_edu | heheh | 03:59 |
pitux | yes | 03:59 |
pitux | i have a project call freemath.cl | 03:59 |
pitux | with my friends | 03:59 |
mhz_edu | hahahah | 03:59 |
mhz_edu | Matematicas Libre? | 03:59 |
pitux | yeah | 04:00 |
pitux | soy el jose | 04:00 |
pitux | ciomo estay mauricio? | 04:00 |
mhz_edu | Maestro, como estas? | 04:00 |
mhz_edu | Ya llevo bastantes testeos de edubuntu | 04:00 |
pitux | super aca entreteniendome un poco por el chat | 04:00 |
pitux | me parece super | 04:00 |
mhz_edu | preparandonos porque queda poco tiem[po y mucho por hacer | 04:01 |
mhz_edu | debo presentar las cubuiertas de los cd antes del jueves | 04:01 |
mhz_edu | revisar la documentacion existente en ingles y afinar algunos detalles sueltos | 04:01 |
pitux | tu estas encargado de eso | 04:01 |
pitux | congratulations | 04:02 |
mhz_edu | eso = CD ? | 04:02 |
mhz_edu | eso = docs ? | 04:02 |
pitux | cd? | 04:02 |
mhz_edu | sip | 04:02 |
pitux | a que taquilla | 04:02 |
mhz_edu | Ha habido bastante discusion sobre ese tema porque no nos darian fondos para envios a paises | 04:02 |
pitux | buuuuu | 04:03 |
pitux | yo en el colegio que estoy trabajando vamos a migrar a ubuntu | 04:03 |
mhz_edu | Afortunadamente, Canonical nos dara algnuas lucas para imprimir CD's y hacer pequnos envios suuuuper restringidos. | 04:03 |
pitux | probe breezy anda muy bien | 04:03 |
pitux | sera no mas | 04:03 |
mhz_edu | pitux, Genial!! | 04:03 |
pitux | te voy a invitar un dia pa que vayay pa lla | 04:04 |
mhz_edu | CD's/ en todo caso, si puedes ayudarnos l lanzamiento de Eubuntu, me seria de muchisimo alivio | 04:04 |
pitux | a que te refieres? | 04:04 |
mhz_edu | pitux, por favor! Feliz de ir | 04:04 |
pitux | nosotros ahora vamos a usar breezy para el proximo ao | 04:04 |
pitux | edubuntu no lo he probado | 04:05 |
pitux | pero no se si tendria sentido porque no vamos a usar LTSP | 04:05 |
mhz_edu | En Chile, y por la colaboracion que he hecho, Canonical me pasara cerca de 150 CD's que deseo entregar en una serie de pqueneos y modestos eventos promocionales de demo | 04:05 |
mhz_edu | ahh | 04:05 |
pitux | las maquinas igual corren de maravillas | 04:05 |
mhz_edu | es casi lo mismo | 04:05 |
mhz_edu | exacto | 04:05 |
mhz_edu | en esos eventos, si pudieras ayudarno seria genial | 04:06 |
pitux | te planteo lo siguiente | 04:06 |
mhz_edu | juega | 04:06 |
pitux | anda a hablarnos de edubuntu | 04:06 |
pitux | a la U | 04:06 |
pitux | te consigo lugar gente etc | 04:06 |
mhz_edu | perfecto! Podriamos ver una fecha cercana al alanzamiento oficial :D | 04:07 |
pitux | lo que pasa es que se viene la semana de la facultad | 04:07 |
mhz_edu | Mail/ Lorna me informo que al parecer no te llegaban mis mails. Te puedo enviar el programa del evento del 18 en Palaya ancha? | 04:07 |
pitux | la semana de la ciencia y a mi ya me pidieron que diera una charla | 04:08 |
pitux | sip | 04:08 |
mhz_edu | charla/ y cuando te acomodaria que fuera ahabvlar de edubuntu entonces, antes? | 04:08 |
pitux | pero es escribeme a este | 04:08 |
pitux | edu.freesoftware at gmail.com | 04:08 |
pitux | esa misma semana | 04:08 |
pitux | se hablara de temas variados | 04:08 |
mhz_edu | tienes un temario? | 04:09 |
pitux | nop | 04:09 |
pitux | yo no lo organizo a mi solo me invitaron a exponer | 04:09 |
pitux | pero voy a ver al organizador el martes | 04:09 |
pitux | y le digo que si puede te haga un espacio | 04:09 |
mhz_edu | seria ideal! | 04:10 |
pitux | si pues | 04:10 |
mhz_edu | y desde cuando a cuando es la semana? | 04:10 |
pitux | es mas menos por ahi por el 24 | 04:10 |
pitux | tu vas a iquique? | 04:10 |
mhz_edu | despues del encentro Linux, menos mal | 04:10 |
mhz_edu | me faltan entre 80 y 90 lucas para ir | 04:10 |
mhz_edu | :( | 04:10 |
pitux | yo no voy | 04:10 |
mhz_edu | booh | 04:11 |
pitux | es que de verdad | 04:12 |
pitux | no tengo mayor interes en ir | 04:12 |
mhz_edu | por que? | 04:12 |
mhz_edu | ah, claro a mi me sirve para dar tarjetas :D | 04:12 |
pitux | las charlas no me llaman mucho la atencion | 04:12 |
mhz_edu | te entiendo | 04:12 |
pitux | y la unica de educacion la va a dar werner que ya la he escuchado demasiado | 04:13 |
mhz_edu | respecto al colegio.. cual es? | 04:13 |
pitux | el francisco de mirand | 04:13 |
mhz_edu | ? | 04:13 |
pitux | miranda | 04:13 |
mhz_edu | ? | 04:13 |
mhz_edu | :) | 04:13 |
pitux | www.franciscodemiranda.cl | 04:13 |
mhz_edu | oooh | 04:13 |
pitux | quisiera tener mas tiempo | 04:14 |
mhz_edu | escoba | 04:14 |
pitux | oye estaba pensando si voy pa valpo | 04:14 |
mhz_edu | yo me doy cuenta que demasiado voluntariado y pocas lucas :D | 04:14 |
mhz_edu | por que? tiempo | 04:14 |
mhz_edu | ? | 04:15 |
pitux | ir a las otras ues a promocionar ML | 04:15 |
mhz_edu | esa era la idea | 04:15 |
pitux | necesitamos reunir gente en ML | 04:15 |
mhz_edu | entonces.. ahora mismo te envio el mail de uno de los encargados.. w8 | 04:15 |
pitux | ya pues | 04:15 |
mhz_edu | flash en sitios me deja la escoba si no lo instalo :( | 04:16 |
mhz_edu | toda la gente le da con flash | 04:16 |
pitux | no recibo ningun correo tuyo aun | 04:17 |
mhz_edu | es que se me habia pegado el firefox :( | 04:17 |
pitux | ok | 04:17 |
mhz_edu | enviado ok | 04:19 |
mhz_edu | este es parte del mensaje original del "copyleft" : | 04:19 |
mhz_edu | Por lo de incluir a mas personas no hay problemas, eso si, si vienen | 04:19 |
mhz_edu | de Santiago, se podria costear el pasaje solo para 5, por lo que | 04:19 |
mhz_edu | deben, si es posible, Faxiarme los pasajes o ver otra forma de | 04:19 |
mhz_edu | hacerlo, para esto espero respuesta de uds. Lo que tambien tenia | 04:19 |
mhz_edu | pensado era enviar un mail a educalibre para invitar a toda la | 04:19 |
mhz_edu | comunidad al foro debate, no se si es buena idea. | 04:19 |
mhz_edu | de momento vamos 3 personajes (Victor Moral, Alejandro Vera y yo) | 04:20 |
mhz_edu | pitux, si tu deseas ir, aprovechamos la oferta del pasaje | 04:20 |
mhz_edu | :) | 04:20 |
pitux | que dia es? | 04:20 |
mhz_edu | el martes 18 | 04:20 |
pitux | vamos | 04:21 |
mhz_edu | Como ves, el programa se habia terminado de llebnar cuando te avise (porque no te llego mi mail, parece) | 04:21 |
mhz_edu | asiq ue donde si podras opinar es en el "foro". | 04:21 |
pitux | demas | 04:21 |
mhz_edu | de todos modos, durante mi charla la meos, si menciono a Matematicas Libre | 04:22 |
mhz_edu | ls meos = al menos | 04:22 |
pitux | si me gustaria ir a la catolica de valparaiso | 04:22 |
pitux | a hablar con los compaeros de mi carrera alla | 04:22 |
pitux | y contarles lo que es el software libre | 04:22 |
mhz_edu | Te pediria que por favor enviaras un mail al "copyleft" para informarle sobre lo que hacen. | 04:22 |
pitux | no te entiendo | 04:23 |
mhz_edu | Yo por mi lado, manana le enviare un correo informando oficialmente que iriamos 4 (3 desde Santiago) | 04:23 |
mhz_edu | scontarle sobre ML | 04:23 |
pitux | el problema es como contacto a la gente de Valpo | 04:24 |
pitux | los que estudian matematica | 04:24 |
mhz_edu | en el forward que te envie...no aparece e? | 04:24 |
mhz_edu | te llego el mail? | 04:24 |
pitux | ok | 04:24 |
pitux | kdohas | 04:25 |
mhz_edu | BTW, entiendes de redes? | 04:25 |
pitux | algo | 04:25 |
mhz_edu | kdohash@gmail.com yes, ese | 04:25 |
pitux | igual dile que revise la pag | 04:26 |
mhz_edu | pitux, llevo mas de 16 horaas peleando con una config de DHCP local y no hay caso. Solo me funciona cuando uso el cable cruzado y no el router. entiendo que el router debe estar haciendo DHCOP por su lado, pero no logro entrar a su seteo pues esta configurado por GTD y no tengo acceso | 04:27 |
mhz_edu | obvio | 04:27 |
pitux | mmmmmmm | 04:27 |
pitux | escapa a mis precarios conocimientos | 04:27 |
mhz_edu | heheh | 04:27 |
mhz_edu | ok | 04:27 |
pitux | DHCP para mi se traduce en dhclient | 04:27 |
mhz_edu | a los mio tambien | 04:28 |
mhz_edu | :) | 04:28 |
pitux | y tenemos internet jejejeje | 04:28 |
mhz_edu | Deberia haber mas gente concetada los fines de smean | 04:28 |
mhz_edu | semana | 04:28 |
pitux | es cierto | 04:28 |
mhz_edu | ayer, logre bootear e instalr edubuntu desde el servidor edubuntu hacia un laptop sin CD ni floppy | 04:28 |
mhz_edu | con la ayuda de un Japones que vive en australia, y terminamos cerca de las 06:00 am chilena | 04:29 |
mhz_edu | Claro, como era un caso "especial" aun no habia doc oficial para eso | 04:30 |
pitux | ahhhhhhh | 04:30 |
pitux | yo ya no trasnocho | 04:30 |
pitux | antes lo hacia | 04:30 |
mhz_edu | Zaurus/ sabes de laguien interesado en comprar la Zaurus? Ahora la tengo con rom GPE (X y gnome) o con Opie | 04:31 |
pitux | ahora a mas tardar a las dos me acuesto | 04:31 |
pitux | cuanto? | 04:31 |
mhz_edu | conocidos: 165.000 | 04:31 |
pitux | ok | 04:31 |
pitux | me pagaron mi primer sueldo y se me fue mi primer sueldo | 04:32 |
pitux | jejejeje | 04:32 |
pitux | asi que para otro momento | 04:32 |
pitux | tal vez te moleste con un laptop | 04:32 |
mhz_edu | yo no deseo transnochar pero como debo apurarme para cumplir con mis compromios aduiridos (sino pierdo status en esta comunidad y paso a ser un chileno mas irresponsable), debo hacerlo a veces | 04:32 |
mhz_edu | Laptop: en este momento, tengo un Fujitsu, 10.4 pulgadas, 500 Mhz celeron, 256 Ram | 04:33 |
mhz_edu | y touchscreen | 04:33 |
pitux | ya pero mas menos que precio estan teniendo? | 04:33 |
pitux | necesito algo super liviano | 04:34 |
pitux | pa la mochila | 04:34 |
mhz_edu | ese celeron, cerca de $360.000 y pesa aprox. 1.35 kgs | 04:34 |
mhz_edu | de hecho estoy pensando seriamente en dejarmelo | 04:35 |
mhz_edu | :D | 04:35 |
mhz_edu | pero no deberia | 04:35 |
pitux | jaja | 04:36 |
pitux | yo creo que pal proximo a~no recien me hago de uno | 04:37 |
mhz_edu | np | 04:37 |
mhz_edu | podrias esperar a los del MIT | 04:37 |
pitux | jajaja | 04:37 |
mhz_edu | Finalmente, creo que vienen con ROM | 04:37 |
pitux | es cierto | 04:37 |
mhz_edu | y no HD | 04:37 |
mhz_edu | asi se entienden muchas cosas :) | 04:37 |
mhz_edu | ya me habia sustado | 04:38 |
mhz_edu | yo lo mas barato que podria conseguir, comprando 600 unidades minimo, es U$250 | 04:38 |
mhz_edu | pero con casi 1 GHz, 256 Ram, 10 GB, 10.4 pulgadas | 04:39 |
mhz_edu | sin calcular costo de internacion, eso si :( | 04:39 |
pitux | oye ya envie el correo a copyleft | 04:39 |
mhz_edu | genial | 04:39 |
mhz_edu | yo apenas resuelva el cachito de dhcp, lo redacto | 04:39 |
pitux | ok te debo trabajar | 04:40 |
pitux | un gusto hablar contigo | 04:40 |
mhz_edu | okidoki | 04:40 |
mhz_edu | igual pascal! | 04:40 |
pitux | me mandas un correo | 04:40 |
pitux | pa lo de valpo | 04:40 |
mhz_edu | si pues | 04:40 |
mhz_edu | saludos a los vecinillos | 04:40 |
mhz_edu | del ML | 04:40 |
pitux | ok | 04:42 |
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jsgotangco | hi JaneW | 08:37 |
JaneW | hello | 08:43 |
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highvoltage | JaneW: hi | 09:38 |
JaneW | hello highvoltage | 09:38 |
highvoltage | how are you, JaneW? | 09:39 |
JaneW | highvoltage: well thanks and you? | 09:40 |
JaneW | Good weekends? | 09:40 |
JaneW | highvoltage: been using my MP3 player :) | 09:40 |
highvoltage | yes, good weekend. | 09:41 |
highvoltage | i hit a low-point on saturday night though, danced to a britney spears song and avril lavigne. | 09:41 |
highvoltage | Need to get 499MB/716MB of archives. | 09:43 |
highvoltage | wow :) | 09:43 |
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highvoltage | hi jsgotangco | 09:46 |
JaneW | highvoltage: aarrgh! | 09:53 |
JaneW | I hope alcohol is to blame ;) | 09:53 |
highvoltage | yes. and the dj was playing good songs before that. | 09:55 |
highvoltage | at least i didn't work this weekend. it's the first weekend this year that i haven't worked. and not the slightest feeling of guilt, very liberating. | 09:55 |
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JaneW | highvoltage: good for you! | 10:08 |
highvoltage | :) | 10:09 |
jsgotangco | JaneW, i finally nailed a nice job | 10:09 |
JaneW | jsgotangco: !!!!! | 10:09 |
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highvoltage | jsgotangco: congratulations | 10:10 |
JaneW | really? | 10:10 |
JaneW | jsgotangco: awesome news congrats :))) | 10:10 |
jsgotangco | JaneW, i'll be working in Brisbane for quite a while | 10:10 |
JaneW | Oz!? | 10:10 |
jsgotangco | yes | 10:10 |
JaneW | contracting or moving there | 10:10 |
JaneW | with family? | 10:10 |
jsgotangco | oh no not yet | 10:10 |
jsgotangco | i'll be working with an Oz-based mobile content provider | 10:11 |
JaneW | jsgotangco: so you'll need to go without them ? :/ | 10:11 |
JaneW | cool, sounds interesting | 10:11 |
jsgotangco | yes | 10:11 |
jsgotangco | the company's name is Gametel | 10:11 |
jsgotangco | i'll be one of the pioneer team members in the aspac region | 10:12 |
jsgotangco | its carrier grade RHEL at work | 10:13 |
JaneW | must be a relief to have found something | 10:13 |
jsgotangco | its quite exciting | 10:13 |
jsgotangco | carrier grade is something really different | 10:14 |
JaneW | oic | 10:15 |
jsgotangco | they have different terms really | 10:16 |
jsgotangco | MVNO, MVOs stuff like that | 10:16 |
jsgotangco | its a telco thing | 10:16 |
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JaneW | I know mvo ;) | 10:17 |
JaneW | Michael Vogt :P | 10:17 |
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jsgotangco | JaneW, think mobile ringtones and games | 10:21 |
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JaneW | ok, fun | 10:27 |
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hno73 | highvoltage: thanks for your screenshot. I see there are a few more things I need to tweak. | 11:19 |
hno73 | highvoltage: Do you want to set up the static pages to match or shall I? | 11:20 |
jsgotangco | hey hno73 | 11:20 |
hno73 | jsgotangco: Hey! I see you've joined the Accessibility team too. cool :) | 11:20 |
jsgotangco | hno73, yep interested on it really | 11:21 |
hno73 | I'll be writing some more specs on that shortly | 11:21 |
jsgotangco | nice count me in | 11:21 |
jsgotangco | i'd love to help out on that area | 11:21 |
hno73 | It should tie in with edubuntu in various ways too | 11:22 |
jsgotangco | yes | 11:22 |
jsgotangco | i have particular interest with the blind | 11:22 |
hno73 | OK, we'll start making some plans soon | 11:22 |
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hno73 | That's probably where we'll put in the most effort too, because it's a big challenge | 11:23 |
jsgotangco | but that didn't stop him from being a bigshot ebay seller | 11:23 |
hno73 | oh, right | 11:23 |
hno73 | :) | 11:23 |
jsgotangco | he's earning more than me really heh | 11:23 |
hno73 | well, opportunities are always better to focus on than limitations | 11:24 |
highvoltage | hno73: if you have the time, i'd be very grateful | 11:24 |
hno73 | I wonder if we should set up our own mailing list for AT | 11:25 |
hno73 | highvoltage: OK, that allows me to be dictatorial about it :) | 11:25 |
hno73 | highvoltage: can you send me the page contents? | 11:25 |
hno73 | I guess there is some text, etc. to go on those pages | 11:26 |
hno73 | and how is the server side going? | 11:26 |
jsgotangco | hno73, i guess when you have the specs out and we have a concrete plan of action | 11:26 |
hno73 | jsgotangco: yep, after breezy release we can regroup and brainstorm | 11:27 |
highvoltage | hno73: you mean the text on this page? http://www.ossn.co.za/edubuntu/4/ | 11:27 |
hno73 | highvoltage: the download and community pages. Do I just scrape the wiki? | 11:28 |
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mhz | hey | 11:32 |
mhz | hno73, ping | 11:33 |
hno73 | mhz, pong | 11:33 |
mhz | morning | 11:33 |
mhz | I have another observation about the theme | 11:33 |
hno73 | morning. you're up early :) | 11:33 |
hno73 | ok | 11:33 |
mhz | yes, Yesterday at 23:40 or so, there was a powercut. I decided to finish my pending issues to be solved no matter what, before 09:00 AM today. Power was restored a couple of hours ago. | 11:34 |
mhz | it is 06:35 now | 11:35 |
hno73 | :) | 11:35 |
hno73 | so, what did you notice about the theme? | 11:35 |
mhz | theme/ the font for {{{this code}}} is to small | 11:35 |
hno73 | OK, do you have suggestions for what it should be? | 11:36 |
mhz | and == Headings == (afaik, those belong to h3) don't seem to be headings | 11:36 |
hno73 | what do you mean, not headings? | 11:37 |
mhz | well, yes and nop. I have not touched a moin theme in the last 3-4 months. However, I do rememeber it is a simple opyion (it took me a couple of hours to identify which lines was). | 11:38 |
hno73 | mhz, I have a question for you too. Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyntaxReference | 11:38 |
mhz | Once I solve my DHCP issue and can boot the laptop into Edubuntu installation (from HD), I promise I can dive into my old themes (I commented every line) | 11:39 |
hno73 | why do the interwiki icons point to the ubuntu theme, and not edubuntu? | 11:39 |
hno73 | where is that path set, I cant find it ... | 11:39 |
hno73 | ok, I could try #moin too if I get stuck | 11:40 |
mhz | hehehe, it feels good I was not the only one diggin in the theme codes :D | 11:40 |
mhz | let me see | 11:40 |
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hno73 | mhz, what do you mean by h3 not being headers? that they should have an underline? | 11:46 |
highvoltage | hno73: sorry, was away. yes, I think we should link to the wiki as much as possible. | 11:47 |
hno73 | OK, that's easy then. thanks. | 11:48 |
hno73 | Is there progress on the server, or shall I just set one up? | 11:48 |
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mhz_edu | re | 11:50 |
mhz_edu | hno73, sorry. IAs I said, i need to solve this stupid issues asap. :D | 11:51 |
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mhz_edu | hno73, regarding the H3 headings (which correspond to == heading == in moin), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromKnoppix and you'll understand what I mean | 11:53 |
hno73 | um, that page has no ==, just === which is h4 | 11:56 |
hno73 | So that's a fault of whoever wrote the page I think. | 11:57 |
mhz_edu | hno73, got it! Smileys on this page are actually a Macro, according to what Raw Text shows: = Smileys = | 11:59 |
mhz_edu | [[ShowSmileys] ] | 11:59 |
mhz_edu | hno73, right. === , sorry. | 12:00 |
mhz_edu | Are Hx bold ? | 12:00 |
mhz_edu | Smileys/ I had no idea there was a macro for that | 12:00 |
hno73 | No, only the page title, h1 | 12:00 |
mhz_edu | Hx/ ah, why? | 12:00 |
hno73 | why not bold? | 12:01 |
mhz_edu | Smileys/ let me dig a little more .. | 12:01 |
mhz_edu | yes | 12:01 |
hno73 | I think it looks good non-bold :) It also has an underline | 12:02 |
mhz_edu | Smileys/ hmmm, my python is still terrible (shame on me) but here's the code if you can get it. http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/macro/ShowSmileys.py | 12:06 |
mhz_edu | imho, the macro gets the icons from "somewhere" else, not from "your icons" location | 12:07 |
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mhz_edu | OR the soluction could be to write that table "manually". I am sure icons will be yours then | 12:08 |
hno73 | hm, I don't see the path hard coded anywhere | 12:08 |
mhz_edu | me neither, hence I said "my python is terrible" :D | 12:08 |
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hno73 | It's strange. Other pages seem to use the correct globe icon for links | 12:09 |
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hno73 | SyntaxReference uses the old ubuntu one while FromKnoppix uses the nice new gartoon one | 12:10 |
mhz_edu | yes, hence I am 99% sure the macro gets icosn from somewhere else UNLESS they're cahced which I think it's illogical | 12:11 |
mhz_edu | cahced = cahced | 12:11 |
mhz_edu | cahced = cached :D | 12:11 |
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mhz_edu | BTW, this is the theme for Tecnocimiento (i started it a few weeks ago (just coloring so far, not "code") http://www.tecnocimiento.cl/SyntaxReference | 12:12 |
hno73 | ah, that's cool | 12:13 |
hno73 | Perhaps SyntaxRef gets cached because it's a macro | 12:14 |
hno73 | that's silly | 12:14 |
mhz_edu | nha, too simple yet. I hope I can have time to get into code soon | 12:14 |
hno73 | it actually has this link in the code <a href="http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/"><img src="/htdocs/ubuntu/img/u-www.png" | 12:14 |
mhz_edu | exactly, that's my point | 12:14 |
hno73 | pointing to the wrong png | 12:14 |
hno73 | grrr | 12:14 |
mhz_edu | LOL | 12:15 |
mhz_edu | see? we were right | 12:15 |
hno73 | I'll have to ask admins to flush the cache at some point | 12:15 |
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hno73 | heh | 12:16 |
hno73 | Your testing has been very helpful too | 12:16 |
mhz_edu | your welcome | 12:16 |
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hno73 | I'll upload an improved version later, but now I have to do the static page stuff | 12:17 |
mhz_edu | Headings/ then why H3 is not underlined? | 12:17 |
mhz_edu | i agree | 12:17 |
hno73 | I've fixed that now | 12:17 |
mhz_edu | oh, educool | 12:17 |
hno73 | a 1px underline | 12:17 |
mhz_edu | better! more in accordance with Hx of thet theme | 12:18 |
mhz_edu | H3 were kind of orphan | 12:18 |
mhz_edu | hno73, Theme general/ what if H1 and H2 were a little less "on your face". Perhaps a little lighter black or "brownish". | 12:20 |
mhz_edu | BTW, will these theme be released under GPL? will it be released on the "moinmoin hall of fame" themes | 12:21 |
hno73 | mhz_edu: I'm making them a bit smaller, but I think we will stay away from brown. crisp clean colours for edubuntu | 12:22 |
mhz_edu | ogra, I could successfully netboot and install a "server" option from Edubuntu box to the Fujistlu laptop :D | 12:23 |
hno73 | GPL, yes. where should Upload them? I might just make versions without logos first | 12:23 |
mhz_edu | ogra, now, I wanted to install the whole edubuntu package, what should I do? | 12:23 |
hno73 | versions with the MM logo would be cool | 12:23 |
mhz_edu | yeah! | 12:23 |
mhz_edu | ThemeMarket should be the place | 12:24 |
hno73 | OK, I'll upload both themes soonish | 12:24 |
mhz_edu | hno73, so these theme will not be subject of : "no, you can't modify the theme fonts, lines, colors,etc. Not even turn them around..." stanzas | 12:25 |
mhz_edu | okidoki | 12:25 |
hno73 | we should make a high visibility theme too | 12:25 |
hno73 | mhz_edu: what do you mean? | 12:26 |
mhz_edu | Oh yes! That's important and thoughtful. Ping me if you need anything else I can help you with. | 12:26 |
mhz_edu | basically, everything regarding edubuntu logo it has some weired understandable but not fully accepted restrictions | 12:27 |
hno73 | right, yeah, so we would just remove that and people can do what they want with the theme | 12:27 |
mhz_edu | like you can't turn the logo around, you can't give it a twist, etc | 12:28 |
mhz_edu | exactly :D | 12:28 |
mhz_edu | especially, "people" like mhz :D | 12:28 |
mhz_edu | Instead with the Debian logo, I rememebr I could make it look whatever I felt like | 12:29 |
hno73 | hm, ok | 12:29 |
mhz_edu | well, ping me if I can help | 12:30 |
hno73 | thanks | 12:30 |
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mhz_fightin_dhcp | lol | 12:31 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | jsgotangco, hi there | 12:33 |
jsgotangco | hi | 12:33 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | jsgotangco, are you also part of ubuntu doc? | 12:33 |
jsgotangco | yes i manage some stuff over there | 12:34 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | more specifically.. are you part of Wiki ubuntu doc team? | 12:34 |
jsgotangco | no not really | 12:34 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | oh | 12:34 |
jsgotangco | i clean up wikis whenever i can | 12:35 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | who can I talk to about it? | 12:35 |
jsgotangco | i mostly focus on the docbook svn | 12:35 |
jsgotangco | mhz_fightin_dhcp, what about? | 12:35 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | I have noticed docs there are not taking advante of moin potential on "auto organizing", basically. | 12:35 |
jsgotangco | hmmmm | 12:36 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | advante = advantage | 12:36 |
jsgotangco | you might want to post a comment on that on the ubuntu-doc list | 12:36 |
jsgotangco | im sure robitaille and mdke can pick it up | 12:36 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | ok, thanks | 12:36 |
jsgotangco | and the moment the ubuntu wiki is being hammered by the italian team | 12:37 |
jsgotangco | heh | 12:37 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | jsgotangco, and regarding the current edubuntu docs, the only thing I think I can be useful about is translating and editing wiki syntax so docs get more wiki like features. | 12:37 |
jsgotangco | mhz_fightin_dhcp, sure do whatever you can, i'll pick it up soonish (tommorow) i have to finish some more stuff before the release not sure really if edubuntu will get released the same day ogra? | 12:39 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | but my english is not that powerful as to edit, and my technical knowledge is already covered on the current pages, exept for a couple of how tos I could wiki soon | 12:39 |
ogra | jsgotangco, it has to... | 12:39 |
ogra | jsgotangco, at lest we cant do changes after the archives are locked down... why wait after that... | 12:40 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | .oO(wise) | 12:40 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | ogra, once I was successfully installing from netboot onto the client, was there any chance I could specify apt to load PCMCIA cd drive instead of the 2-3 hours from repositories? | 12:44 |
ogra | mhz_fightin_dhcp, dunno... i'm not the installer guy... but i guess you need to have the drivers loaded... probably in expert mode... | 12:44 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | ok, thx | 12:45 |
ogra | mhz_fightin_dhcp, perobably Kamion knows, but he's even more busy than me 3 days before release | 12:46 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | ok, I understand | 12:50 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | ogra, I think these are maybe the last 2 questions before I go out to install edubuntu on a real server (I have the 1st official demo tomorrow for the Tecnocimiento gang): does DHCP only and only depend on /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf ? If so, if DHCP is not working properly, the only config file related to dhcp (not ~/interfaces) is that under /ltsp/? And 2nd: After creating ~./xsession to exec fluxbox (example) How can I make L | 12:59 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | DM actually load that instead fo resource consuming GNOME? | 12:59 |
ogra | it should use it automatically | 01:01 |
ogra | ldm only starts /etc/X11/Xsession from the server... | 01:01 |
ogra | this is a script that should pick up your ~/.xsession or ~/.Xsession | 01:01 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | ah, perfect, then dhcp/ may be hardware or network config only (relief) and x/ should be easy then. | 01:02 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | thank you very much! | 01:02 |
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ogra | if you didnt touch the /etc/dhcpd.conf file, it should just work... | 01:03 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | yes | 01:03 |
ogra | so any error you can introduce must be in /etc/ltsp | 01:03 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | by concer was that if I did touch /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf but then I reversed it to default, /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf should then work | 01:04 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | by =my | 01:04 |
ogra | if its exactly the same after you reversed, then yes | 01:05 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | becasue dhcp under /ltsp is 'authoritative' and then rules over /dhcp3 | 01:06 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | (at least, based on what /init/dhcp explains | 01:06 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | :) | 01:06 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | no problem. | 01:06 |
mhz_fightin_dhcp | thx again. (as usual) | 01:06 |
ogra | hno73, around ? | 01:24 |
ogra | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto looks a bit like a road construction with the edubuntu css... can we make the dashed border a bit thinner around code blocks ? | 01:25 |
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mhz_vs_ldm | ogra, any installation made with last friday's iso will work ok with release apt-get dist-upgrade? | 01:57 |
mhz_vs_ldm | or we'd better re-install that day? | 01:57 |
ogra | nope... just upgrade | 01:57 |
mhz_vs_ldm | oh! excellent | 01:58 |
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hno73 | ogra: yep, try now | 02:10 |
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hno73 | ogra, fixed | 02:11 |
ogra | thanks :) | 02:11 |
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mhz_breakfast | re | 03:37 |
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mhz | hehehe | 04:07 |
mhz | I am on the Fujitsu, with Edward Ubuntu fully installed! | 04:08 |
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ogra | yay | 04:09 |
mhz | hmm, gompris crashes after some time | 04:19 |
mhz | :( | 04:19 |
ogra | do yo have the matching -sounds package installed ? | 04:20 |
ogra | note that only -en is installed by default currently... i'm just changing it | 04:20 |
ogra | confusingly the -sounds packages do not only include sounds | 04:21 |
mhz | lol | 04:21 |
mhz | i have not installed anything extra yet, because I am testing default install first | 04:22 |
mhz | but sure I will | 04:22 |
mhz | did the guys from #ltsp found why ldm ignores .xsession | 04:25 |
mhz | ? | 04:25 |
mhz | .oO(it feels good to have 2 edubuntu servers running locally, esp. when one is a laptop) | 04:26 |
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mhz | I just need to solve my dhcp issue with the router in between (i know I am using it as switch whereas it should be used as router, instead) | 04:27 |
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mhz | bienvenido pitux | 04:32 |
pitux | hi | 04:32 |
pitux | trasnochaste? | 04:32 |
mhz | pitux: edubuntu is running smoothly on this laptop, as well | 04:33 |
mhz | yeah, pero se corto la luz aca, cerca de las 23:45 y volvio a las 02:40 aprox. So I got ack to business at 06:00 | 04:34 |
pitux | ok | 04:34 |
mhz | ack = back | 04:34 |
pitux | thanks. for helpme to practice my basd english | 04:34 |
pitux | bad, sorry | 04:34 |
mhz | no problem | 04:34 |
mhz | lo bueno es que me entiendes y eso es un gran avance | 04:35 |
pitux | yeah jejeje | 04:35 |
mhz | I already sent the email to Valpo. Espero recibir noticias hoy o manana confirmando tu "reembolso" (if you need it) | 04:36 |
mhz | de todos modos, confio en iras, cierto? | 04:36 |
pitux | yes i look the mail | 04:36 |
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pitux | jaja | 04:38 |
pitux | your mind is lost | 04:38 |
mhz | JaneW: pitux is from Universidad de Santiago and he's leading a FLOSS project called Matematicas Libre. I may be giving a talk about Edubuntu there, pretty soon. | 04:38 |
pitux | who is JaneW?? | 04:39 |
mhz | JaneW es la lider a cargo del proyecto Edubuntu | 04:40 |
pitux | oh cool | 04:40 |
mhz | y ogra el encargado de hacer la fusion Ubuntu-Edward Ubuntu :D | 04:40 |
mhz | y hno73, se esta encargando del CSS theme de MoinMoin para edubuntu | 04:41 |
mhz | (que esta quedando re-"gueno") | 04:42 |
pitux | congratulations | 04:42 |
mhz | those names, among other more people also contributing as much as possible | 04:42 |
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mhz | esos son uno de los "contras" cuando es feriado en Chile :( La senora manda! | 04:43 |
pitux | my difficulty is the language | 04:44 |
mhz | pitux: but we'll have our chilean community, of course! | 04:44 |
mhz | and you're more than welcome to help us all | 04:44 |
pitux | i am crazy translating in google | 04:44 |
mhz | lol!!! | 04:44 |
mhz | pitux: solo espera que podamos hacer lanzamiento oficial de edubuntu y nos pondremos con #edubuntu-cl o -es Ya veremos :) | 04:45 |
pitux | ok | 04:45 |
pitux | por ahora estoy ayudando en #ubuntu-es | 04:46 |
pitux | ahi hay una comunidad entrete+ | 04:46 |
mhz | eso ya es algo muy bueno | 04:46 |
mhz | hehehe, si | 04:46 |
mhz | A mi me preocupa mas que en Chile, aun seamos muy pocos ayudando internacionalmente (no me refiero solo en ingles) | 04:47 |
mhz | por eso que otra de las cosas que me ha quitado mucho tiempo es la organizacion base del instituto de tecnologia libre | 04:47 |
mhz | pa' que de una vez podamos tener prescencia internacional | 04:48 |
mhz | :D | 04:48 |
pitux | yo ahora quiero hacer un curso de administracion de sistemas | 04:49 |
mhz | donde? | 04:49 |
mhz | dictarlo o asistir? | 04:49 |
pitux | eso es lo que quiero ver, necesito codigo sence para que en el colegio no me pinten monos | 04:50 |
mhz | hehehe, si deseas y puedes esperarte hasta diciembre, Tecnocimiento te lo podria dar | 04:50 |
JaneW | mhz: awesome | 04:50 |
JaneW | ola | 04:50 |
mhz | hola | 04:51 |
pitux | ok | 04:51 |
mhz | or aloha | 04:51 |
pitux | hi | 04:51 |
pitux | y quien dictaria el curso | 04:51 |
mhz | pitux: pero if you can't wait, then I can suggest some institutions | 04:52 |
JaneW | cundo este canal lleg a ser espaol? | 04:52 |
mhz | Victor Moral, Alejandro Vera, y un par de personas mas (entre programadores y administradores) | 04:52 |
pitux | ok | 04:52 |
pitux | esperare | 04:53 |
mhz | JaneW: ehehe, considering that everyone was silent, we decided it was cool :) | 04:53 |
pitux | yeah | 04:53 |
pitux | all are sleeping | 04:53 |
mhz | pitux: you'll meet Victor and Alejandro in Valpo. | 04:54 |
pitux | ok | 04:54 |
pitux | lo que quiero hacer en ese colegio | 04:54 |
pitux | es migrarlos enteros | 04:55 |
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pitux | es decir solo tienen computadores | 04:55 |
mhz | JaneW: we hope once edubuntu gets released, an we fix some minor bugs, we can start a chilean channel :) | 04:55 |
mhz | pitux: and ubuntu or edubuntu? | 04:55 |
pitux | y quiero que el colegio sea un ejemplo de como hacer las cosas bine | 04:55 |
pitux | bien | 04:55 |
JaneW | mhz: cool! | 04:56 |
pitux | lo estoy analizando | 04:56 |
mhz | pitux: en colombia there's a school "gimnasio ..." something. Son 100% Software Libre | 04:56 |
JaneW | mhz: litterally and figuaratively , lol | 04:56 |
mhz | hehehe | 04:56 |
mhz | yesp | 04:56 |
pitux | como te dije las maquinas son relativamente nuevas | 04:56 |
pitux | asi que no se que sentido tendria instalar clientes ligeros | 04:57 |
mhz | y por eso no desean usar LTSP? or is something else? | 04:57 |
mhz | LTSP is also good to minimize administration tasks and risks | 04:57 |
mhz | LTSP te ayuda a simplificar y centralizar tareas, tambien | 04:58 |
mhz | de otro modo, el Admin may get crazy | 04:58 |
mhz | :) | 04:58 |
mhz | obviamente, es tu decision | 04:58 |
pitux | por eso | 04:59 |
pitux | te invito al colegio | 04:59 |
mhz | si deseas, te podriamos ayudar con el analisis de costo/beneficio y ademas test edubuntu v/s ubuntu solution | 04:59 |
pitux | revisamos | 04:59 |
pitux | y podemos conversar con el rector el asunto de las capacitaciones | 05:00 |
mhz | perfecto. | 05:00 |
pitux | seriamos dos personas las que iriamos | 05:00 |
pitux | a capacitarnos | 05:00 |
mhz | genial! | 05:00 |
mhz | educool! | 05:00 |
mhz | pitux: debo lavar la loza antes de que me sigan alegando :D | 05:01 |
pitux | nos vemos | 05:01 |
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pitux | saludos | 05:01 |
pitux | yo tambien debo trabajar | 05:01 |
mhz_doing_dishes | pitux: y gracias por venir al #edubuntu | 05:01 |
mhz_doing_dishes | see ya | 05:02 |
pitux | ;D | 05:02 |
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jelkner | ogra: oliver, you here? | 10:24 |
jelkner | anyone here who can answer an installation question? | 10:25 |
ogra | jelkner, yes, i'm here | 10:26 |
jelkner | hi oliver, i'm in the middle (actually early) of an edubuntu install | 10:27 |
jelkner | and i've already encountered a problem i haven't seen before | 10:27 |
jelkner | i'm using today's daily build | 10:27 |
jelkner | i just got to the network configuration screen | 10:27 |
jelkner | i selected eth0 | 10:28 |
jelkner | and i see: | 10:28 |
jelkner | The answer to this question has been preseeded | 10:28 |
ogra | yes, known bug, fixed in tomorrows build already | 10:28 |
jelkner | (netcfg/get_ipaddress). If you see this template, you've found a bug | 10:28 |
jelkner | in the installer; please file a report. | 10:29 |
jelkner | ok, another quesiton | 10:29 |
ogra | there is a bug in the installer, it throws this error if you provide a default setting... we ripped out the default ip | 10:29 |
jelkner | we will not be able to use 192.168.0.x on the client side | 10:30 |
jelkner | 192.168.0.x is already used on the LAN | 10:30 |
ogra | thats ok with the fixed installer... | 10:30 |
jelkner | cool! | 10:30 |
ogra | just use something else and edit /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to match the network settings.... | 10:30 |
jelkner | so i can select 192.168.1.254 as the server address and dhcp will be right? | 10:30 |
ogra | (dont edit /etc/dhcpd.conf !) | 10:31 |
jelkner | ok | 10:31 |
ogra | nope, manual editing of the abpve file is required | 10:31 |
ogra | mdz didnt accept my patch to autogenerate this file | 10:31 |
jelkner | eventually, that will happen automagically, yes? ala K12-LTSP | 10:31 |
ogra | yes | 10:31 |
ogra | any i plan a gui to edit it afterwards too... for dapper | 10:32 |
jelkner | very good | 10:32 |
ogra | we can talk about needed features at UBZ :) | 10:32 |
jelkner | one of the things i hope we can discuss in montreal is the release cycle for edubuntu | 10:32 |
jelkner | we really need a once a year release | 10:33 |
ogra | nope, we cant | 10:33 |
ogra | we are bound totally to ubuntu... | 10:33 |
jelkner | i have a proposal | 10:33 |
jelkner | which i hope will satisfy everybody | 10:33 |
ogra | but why not take every second 6 month release | 10:33 |
jelkner | yes, that's what i'm hoping | 10:34 |
ogra | so you got your 1 year release | 10:34 |
jelkner | only we release a few months after dapper | 10:34 |
ogra | but i still have to develop inside ubuntu | 10:34 |
jelkner | so that we have time to fix edubuntu specific things | 10:34 |
ogra | thats not possible | 10:34 |
jelkner | and not change ubuntu, just build on it | 10:34 |
jelkner | why? | 10:34 |
jelkner | it is too rushed now | 10:34 |
ogra | because we have no access to the build infrastructure after the release was made | 10:35 |
ogra | it will be better next release | 10:35 |
jelkner | if we had a fixed platform to build on, we could get the education specific things properly tested before they are released | 10:35 |
jelkner | things like the ap csc meta package i'm hoping for | 10:35 |
ogra | note that this time we started 2 months late and for one month there was no working base to build on | 10:35 |
jelkner | ok, enough of that | 10:35 |
jelkner | but i'm still going to raise it | 10:36 |
jelkner | remember, i'm a volunteer, i can do these things ;-) | 10:36 |
ogra | we simply cant move away from the ubuntu cycle, and i really wouldnt like to | 10:36 |
ogra | imagine this cycle with 3 months more development time... thats nearly the amount i lost... | 10:37 |
ogra | we have a good base now, tomorrows daily should be near the final... | 10:37 |
jelkner | ok, let's just see how it goes | 10:37 |
jelkner | if we can have a really good platform ready by dapper... | 10:38 |
ogra | sure... | 10:38 |
jelkner | on saturday i got to look at an ltsp based solution aimed at libraries | 10:38 |
jelkner | userful.com | 10:38 |
ogra | it cant degrade from what we have now and the feedback i had so far was quite positive | 10:38 |
jelkner | ??? | 10:39 |
ogra | yes, they are proprietary, i know them | 10:39 |
jelkner | but they have what our librarian is asking for | 10:39 |
ogra | multiseat systems ? | 10:39 |
ogra | ubuntu has this too | 10:39 |
jelkner | local devices | 10:39 |
ogra | err, multiseat systems hve no local devices afaik | 10:40 |
jelkner | oliver, i've just met someone here who is eager to talk edubuntu stuff | 10:40 |
ogra | or do they offer ltsp based solutions ? | 10:40 |
jelkner | yes | 10:41 |
ogra | ah | 10:41 |
jelkner | that's what they do | 10:41 |
ogra | note that local devices was never a target for this release | 10:41 |
jelkner | it is fedora based it think | 10:41 |
jelkner | i know, i'm not complaining | 10:41 |
jelkner | edubuntu rocks! | 10:41 |
ogra | thanks :=) | 10:41 |
jelkner | i'm just telling you what we need before it is fully ready | 10:41 |
jelkner | local devices are going to be important | 10:42 |
jelkner | as it is now, users can't save data | 10:42 |
ogra | yes, and a right sound implementation | 10:42 |
jelkner | that's a show stopper for our library installation | 10:42 |
jelkner | indeed! | 10:42 |
ogra | that two and a good ldap based user management are my main targets for dapper | 10:42 |
jelkner | ok, i've gotta run | 10:43 |
ogra | bye, thanks for the feedback :) | 10:43 |
jelkner | thank you! | 10:43 |
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