=== mhz_edu [n=gnulibre@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@151-176-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_edu [n=gnulibre@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_edu is now known as mhz [12:26] anyone here that may help me see WHY this DHCP local setting is not working? [12:26] please :) === fersfeir [n=fernando@201.250.2.203] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-83-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:54] Tengo: 1 tarro de server con 2 interfaces (eth0 y eth1) + 1 router Dlink (DI-704p) + 1 Modem VTR ( [12:54] Motorola) [12:54] arkan0x, sorry [12:55] mhz: por pv [12:59] arkan0x, me lees el PV? === macgyver2 is now known as mac2|asleep === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@151-176-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_edu [n=gnulibre@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:55] hay, alguine aca? [03:55] anyone here? [03:57] yes [03:57] mhz from chile? [03:58] indeed [03:58] you? [03:59] tambien? [03:59] heheh [03:59] yes [03:59] i have a project call freemath.cl [03:59] with my friends [03:59] hahahah [03:59] Matematicas Libre? [04:00] yeah [04:00] soy el jose [04:00] ciomo estay mauricio? [04:00] Maestro, como estas? [04:00] Ya llevo bastantes testeos de edubuntu [04:00] super aca entreteniendome un poco por el chat [04:00] me parece super [04:01] preparandonos porque queda poco tiem[po y mucho por hacer [04:01] debo presentar las cubuiertas de los cd antes del jueves [04:01] revisar la documentacion existente en ingles y afinar algunos detalles sueltos [04:01] tu estas encargado de eso [04:02] congratulations [04:02] eso = CD ? [04:02] eso = docs ? [04:02] cd? [04:02] sip [04:02] a que taquilla [04:02] Ha habido bastante discusion sobre ese tema porque no nos darian fondos para envios a paises [04:03] buuuuu [04:03] yo en el colegio que estoy trabajando vamos a migrar a ubuntu [04:03] Afortunadamente, Canonical nos dara algnuas lucas para imprimir CD's y hacer pequnos envios suuuuper restringidos. [04:03] probe breezy anda muy bien [04:03] sera no mas [04:03] pitux, Genial!! [04:04] te voy a invitar un dia pa que vayay pa lla [04:04] CD's/ en todo caso, si puedes ayudarnos l lanzamiento de Eubuntu, me seria de muchisimo alivio [04:04] a que te refieres? [04:04] pitux, por favor! Feliz de ir [04:04] nosotros ahora vamos a usar breezy para el proximo ao [04:05] edubuntu no lo he probado [04:05] pero no se si tendria sentido porque no vamos a usar LTSP [04:05] En Chile, y por la colaboracion que he hecho, Canonical me pasara cerca de 150 CD's que deseo entregar en una serie de pqueneos y modestos eventos promocionales de demo [04:05] ahh [04:05] las maquinas igual corren de maravillas [04:05] es casi lo mismo [04:05] exacto [04:06] en esos eventos, si pudieras ayudarno seria genial [04:06] te planteo lo siguiente [04:06] juega [04:06] anda a hablarnos de edubuntu [04:06] a la U [04:06] te consigo lugar gente etc [04:07] perfecto! Podriamos ver una fecha cercana al alanzamiento oficial :D [04:07] lo que pasa es que se viene la semana de la facultad [04:07] Mail/ Lorna me informo que al parecer no te llegaban mis mails. Te puedo enviar el programa del evento del 18 en Palaya ancha? [04:08] la semana de la ciencia y a mi ya me pidieron que diera una charla [04:08] sip [04:08] charla/ y cuando te acomodaria que fuera ahabvlar de edubuntu entonces, antes? [04:08] pero es escribeme a este [04:08] edu.freesoftware at gmail.com [04:08] esa misma semana [04:08] se hablara de temas variados [04:09] tienes un temario? [04:09] nop [04:09] yo no lo organizo a mi solo me invitaron a exponer [04:09] pero voy a ver al organizador el martes [04:09] y le digo que si puede te haga un espacio [04:10] seria ideal! [04:10] si pues [04:10] y desde cuando a cuando es la semana? [04:10] es mas menos por ahi por el 24 [04:10] tu vas a iquique? [04:10] despues del encentro Linux, menos mal [04:10] me faltan entre 80 y 90 lucas para ir [04:10] :( [04:10] yo no voy [04:11] booh [04:12] es que de verdad [04:12] no tengo mayor interes en ir [04:12] por que? [04:12] ah, claro a mi me sirve para dar tarjetas :D [04:12] las charlas no me llaman mucho la atencion [04:12] te entiendo [04:13] y la unica de educacion la va a dar werner que ya la he escuchado demasiado [04:13] respecto al colegio.. cual es? [04:13] el francisco de mirand [04:13] ? [04:13] miranda [04:13] ? [04:13] :) [04:13] www.franciscodemiranda.cl [04:13] oooh [04:14] quisiera tener mas tiempo [04:14] escoba [04:14] oye estaba pensando si voy pa valpo [04:14] yo me doy cuenta que demasiado voluntariado y pocas lucas :D [04:14] por que? tiempo [04:15] ? [04:15] ir a las otras ues a promocionar ML [04:15] esa era la idea [04:15] necesitamos reunir gente en ML [04:15] entonces.. ahora mismo te envio el mail de uno de los encargados.. w8 [04:15] ya pues [04:16] flash en sitios me deja la escoba si no lo instalo :( [04:16] toda la gente le da con flash [04:17] no recibo ningun correo tuyo aun [04:17] es que se me habia pegado el firefox :( [04:17] ok [04:19] enviado ok [04:19] este es parte del mensaje original del "copyleft" : [04:19] Por lo de incluir a mas personas no hay problemas, eso si, si vienen [04:19] de Santiago, se podria costear el pasaje solo para 5, por lo que [04:19] deben, si es posible, Faxiarme los pasajes o ver otra forma de [04:19] hacerlo, para esto espero respuesta de uds. Lo que tambien tenia [04:19] pensado era enviar un mail a educalibre para invitar a toda la [04:19] comunidad al foro debate, no se si es buena idea. [04:20] de momento vamos 3 personajes (Victor Moral, Alejandro Vera y yo) [04:20] pitux, si tu deseas ir, aprovechamos la oferta del pasaje [04:20] :) [04:20] que dia es? [04:20] el martes 18 [04:21] vamos [04:21] Como ves, el programa se habia terminado de llebnar cuando te avise (porque no te llego mi mail, parece) [04:21] asiq ue donde si podras opinar es en el "foro". [04:21] demas [04:22] de todos modos, durante mi charla la meos, si menciono a Matematicas Libre [04:22] ls meos = al menos [04:22] si me gustaria ir a la catolica de valparaiso [04:22] a hablar con los compaeros de mi carrera alla [04:22] y contarles lo que es el software libre [04:22] Te pediria que por favor enviaras un mail al "copyleft" para informarle sobre lo que hacen. [04:23] no te entiendo [04:23] Yo por mi lado, manana le enviare un correo informando oficialmente que iriamos 4 (3 desde Santiago) [04:23] scontarle sobre ML [04:24] el problema es como contacto a la gente de Valpo [04:24] los que estudian matematica [04:24] en el forward que te envie...no aparece e? [04:24] te llego el mail? [04:24] ok [04:25] kdohas [04:25] BTW, entiendes de redes? [04:25] algo [04:25] kdohash@gmail.com yes, ese [04:26] igual dile que revise la pag [04:27] pitux, llevo mas de 16 horaas peleando con una config de DHCP local y no hay caso. Solo me funciona cuando uso el cable cruzado y no el router. entiendo que el router debe estar haciendo DHCOP por su lado, pero no logro entrar a su seteo pues esta configurado por GTD y no tengo acceso [04:27] obvio [04:27] mmmmmmm [04:27] escapa a mis precarios conocimientos [04:27] heheh [04:27] ok [04:27] DHCP para mi se traduce en dhclient [04:28] a los mio tambien [04:28] :) [04:28] y tenemos internet jejejeje [04:28] Deberia haber mas gente concetada los fines de smean [04:28] semana [04:28] es cierto [04:28] ayer, logre bootear e instalr edubuntu desde el servidor edubuntu hacia un laptop sin CD ni floppy [04:29] con la ayuda de un Japones que vive en australia, y terminamos cerca de las 06:00 am chilena [04:30] Claro, como era un caso "especial" aun no habia doc oficial para eso [04:30] ahhhhhhh [04:30] yo ya no trasnocho [04:30] antes lo hacia [04:31] Zaurus/ sabes de laguien interesado en comprar la Zaurus? Ahora la tengo con rom GPE (X y gnome) o con Opie [04:31] ahora a mas tardar a las dos me acuesto [04:31] cuanto? [04:31] conocidos: 165.000 [04:31] ok [04:32] me pagaron mi primer sueldo y se me fue mi primer sueldo [04:32] jejejeje [04:32] asi que para otro momento [04:32] tal vez te moleste con un laptop [04:32] yo no deseo transnochar pero como debo apurarme para cumplir con mis compromios aduiridos (sino pierdo status en esta comunidad y paso a ser un chileno mas irresponsable), debo hacerlo a veces [04:33] Laptop: en este momento, tengo un Fujitsu, 10.4 pulgadas, 500 Mhz celeron, 256 Ram [04:33] y touchscreen [04:33] ya pero mas menos que precio estan teniendo? [04:34] necesito algo super liviano [04:34] pa la mochila [04:34] ese celeron, cerca de $360.000 y pesa aprox. 1.35 kgs [04:35] de hecho estoy pensando seriamente en dejarmelo [04:35] :D [04:35] pero no deberia [04:36] jaja [04:37] yo creo que pal proximo a~no recien me hago de uno [04:37] np [04:37] podrias esperar a los del MIT [04:37] jajaja [04:37] Finalmente, creo que vienen con ROM [04:37] es cierto [04:37] y no HD [04:37] asi se entienden muchas cosas :) [04:38] ya me habia sustado [04:38] yo lo mas barato que podria conseguir, comprando 600 unidades minimo, es U$250 [04:39] pero con casi 1 GHz, 256 Ram, 10 GB, 10.4 pulgadas [04:39] sin calcular costo de internacion, eso si :( [04:39] oye ya envie el correo a copyleft [04:39] genial [04:39] yo apenas resuelva el cachito de dhcp, lo redacto [04:40] ok te debo trabajar [04:40] un gusto hablar contigo [04:40] okidoki [04:40] igual pascal! [04:40] me mandas un correo [04:40] pa lo de valpo [04:40] si pues [04:40] saludos a los vecinillos [04:40] del ML [04:42] ok === mhz_edu is now known as mhz_reading_dhcp === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === HuntsMan [n=hunts@pc-97-136-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@edison.tsf.org.za] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu === thianpa [n=hmmm@unaffiliated/thianpa] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-170-43.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [08:37] hi JaneW [08:43] hello === guim [n=glederer@193.190.183.237] has joined #edubuntu [09:38] JaneW: hi [09:38] hello highvoltage [09:39] how are you, JaneW? [09:40] highvoltage: well thanks and you? [09:40] Good weekends? [09:40] highvoltage: been using my MP3 player :) [09:41] yes, good weekend. [09:41] i hit a low-point on saturday night though, danced to a britney spears song and avril lavigne. [09:43] Need to get 499MB/716MB of archives. [09:43] wow :) === jsgotangco stares at highvoltage === highvoltage looks back nervously at jsgotangco [09:46] hi jsgotangco [09:53] highvoltage: aarrgh! [09:53] I hope alcohol is to blame ;) [09:55] yes. and the dj was playing good songs before that. [09:55] at least i didn't work this weekend. it's the first weekend this year that i haven't worked. and not the slightest feeling of guilt, very liberating. === Merlin-NSSP [n=Merlin@anakin.2020total.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:08] highvoltage: good for you! [10:09] :) [10:09] JaneW, i finally nailed a nice job [10:09] jsgotangco: !!!!! === Merlin-NSSP [n=Merlin@anakin.2020total.net] has left #edubuntu [] [10:10] jsgotangco: congratulations [10:10] really? [10:10] jsgotangco: awesome news congrats :))) [10:10] JaneW, i'll be working in Brisbane for quite a while [10:10] Oz!? [10:10] yes [10:10] contracting or moving there [10:10] with family? [10:10] oh no not yet [10:11] i'll be working with an Oz-based mobile content provider [10:11] jsgotangco: so you'll need to go without them ? :/ [10:11] cool, sounds interesting [10:11] yes [10:11] the company's name is Gametel [10:12] i'll be one of the pioneer team members in the aspac region [10:13] its carrier grade RHEL at work [10:13] must be a relief to have found something [10:13] its quite exciting [10:14] carrier grade is something really different [10:15] oic [10:16] they have different terms really [10:16] MVNO, MVOs stuff like that [10:16] its a telco thing === JaneW has no idea what any of that means ;) [10:17] I know mvo ;) [10:17] Michael Vogt :P === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu [10:21] JaneW, think mobile ringtones and games === guim_ [n=glederer@193.190.183.237] has joined #edubuntu [10:27] ok, fun === hno73 [n=hno73@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [11:19] highvoltage: thanks for your screenshot. I see there are a few more things I need to tweak. [11:20] highvoltage: Do you want to set up the static pages to match or shall I? [11:20] hey hno73 [11:20] jsgotangco: Hey! I see you've joined the Accessibility team too. cool :) [11:21] hno73, yep interested on it really [11:21] I'll be writing some more specs on that shortly [11:21] nice count me in [11:21] i'd love to help out on that area [11:22] It should tie in with edubuntu in various ways too [11:22] yes [11:22] i have particular interest with the blind [11:22] OK, we'll start making some plans soon === jsgotangco his brother is blind when he was born [11:23] That's probably where we'll put in the most effort too, because it's a big challenge [11:23] but that didn't stop him from being a bigshot ebay seller [11:23] oh, right [11:23] :) [11:23] he's earning more than me really heh [11:24] well, opportunities are always better to focus on than limitations [11:24] hno73: if you have the time, i'd be very grateful [11:25] I wonder if we should set up our own mailing list for AT [11:25] highvoltage: OK, that allows me to be dictatorial about it :) [11:25] highvoltage: can you send me the page contents? [11:26] I guess there is some text, etc. to go on those pages [11:26] and how is the server side going? [11:26] hno73, i guess when you have the specs out and we have a concrete plan of action [11:27] jsgotangco: yep, after breezy release we can regroup and brainstorm [11:27] hno73: you mean the text on this page? http://www.ossn.co.za/edubuntu/4/ [11:28] highvoltage: the download and community pages. Do I just scrape the wiki? === mhz_edu [n=gnulibre@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_edu is now known as mhz [11:32] hey [11:33] hno73, ping [11:33] mhz, pong [11:33] morning [11:33] I have another observation about the theme [11:33] morning. you're up early :) [11:33] ok [11:34] yes, Yesterday at 23:40 or so, there was a powercut. I decided to finish my pending issues to be solved no matter what, before 09:00 AM today. Power was restored a couple of hours ago. [11:35] it is 06:35 now [11:35] :) [11:35] so, what did you notice about the theme? [11:35] theme/ the font for {{{this code}}} is to small [11:36] OK, do you have suggestions for what it should be? [11:36] and == Headings == (afaik, those belong to h3) don't seem to be headings [11:37] what do you mean, not headings? [11:38] well, yes and nop. I have not touched a moin theme in the last 3-4 months. However, I do rememeber it is a simple opyion (it took me a couple of hours to identify which lines was). [11:38] mhz, I have a question for you too. Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyntaxReference [11:39] Once I solve my DHCP issue and can boot the laptop into Edubuntu installation (from HD), I promise I can dive into my old themes (I commented every line) [11:39] why do the interwiki icons point to the ubuntu theme, and not edubuntu? [11:39] where is that path set, I cant find it ... [11:40] ok, I could try #moin too if I get stuck [11:40] hehehe, it feels good I was not the only one diggin in the theme codes :D [11:40] let me see === spacey`clue [n=cluebox@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu [11:46] mhz, what do you mean by h3 not being headers? that they should have an underline? [11:47] hno73: sorry, was away. yes, I think we should link to the wiki as much as possible. [11:48] OK, that's easy then. thanks. [11:48] Is there progress on the server, or shall I just set one up? === mhz_edu [n=gnulibre@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:50] re [11:51] hno73, sorry. IAs I said, i need to solve this stupid issues asap. :D === mhz_edu lokking SyntaxReference === pere_gone is now known as pere [11:53] hno73, regarding the H3 headings (which correspond to == heading == in moin), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromKnoppix and you'll understand what I mean [11:56] um, that page has no ==, just === which is h4 [11:57] So that's a fault of whoever wrote the page I think. [11:59] hno73, got it! Smileys on this page are actually a Macro, according to what Raw Text shows: = Smileys = [11:59] [[ShowSmileys] ] [12:00] hno73, right. === , sorry. [12:00] Are Hx bold ? [12:00] Smileys/ I had no idea there was a macro for that [12:00] No, only the page title, h1 [12:00] Hx/ ah, why? [12:01] why not bold? [12:01] Smileys/ let me dig a little more .. [12:01] yes [12:02] I think it looks good non-bold :) It also has an underline [12:06] Smileys/ hmmm, my python is still terrible (shame on me) but here's the code if you can get it. http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/macro/ShowSmileys.py [12:07] imho, the macro gets the icons from "somewhere" else, not from "your icons" location === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu [12:08] OR the soluction could be to write that table "manually". I am sure icons will be yours then [12:08] hm, I don't see the path hard coded anywhere [12:08] me neither, hence I said "my python is terrible" :D === mhz_edu thinks he wrote that same table before. he's looking [12:09] It's strange. Other pages seem to use the correct globe icon for links === ogra [n=ogra@p5089D09D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:10] SyntaxReference uses the old ubuntu one while FromKnoppix uses the nice new gartoon one [12:11] yes, hence I am 99% sure the macro gets icosn from somewhere else UNLESS they're cahced which I think it's illogical [12:11] cahced = cahced [12:11] cahced = cached :D === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089D4FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:12] BTW, this is the theme for Tecnocimiento (i started it a few weeks ago (just coloring so far, not "code") http://www.tecnocimiento.cl/SyntaxReference [12:13] ah, that's cool [12:14] Perhaps SyntaxRef gets cached because it's a macro [12:14] that's silly [12:14] nha, too simple yet. I hope I can have time to get into code soon [12:14] it actually has this link in the code

exactly, that's my point [12:14] pointing to the wrong png [12:14] grrr [12:15] LOL [12:15] see? we were right [12:15] I'll have to ask admins to flush the cache at some point === mhz_edu is happy he finally helped Henrik!! [12:16] heh [12:16] Your testing has been very helpful too [12:16] your welcome === mhz_edu loves to beta test stuff [12:17] I'll upload an improved version later, but now I have to do the static page stuff [12:17] Headings/ then why H3 is not underlined? [12:17] i agree [12:17] I've fixed that now [12:17] oh, educool [12:17] a 1px underline [12:18] better! more in accordance with Hx of thet theme [12:18] H3 were kind of orphan [12:20] hno73, Theme general/ what if H1 and H2 were a little less "on your face". Perhaps a little lighter black or "brownish". [12:21] BTW, will these theme be released under GPL? will it be released on the "moinmoin hall of fame" themes [12:22] mhz_edu: I'm making them a bit smaller, but I think we will stay away from brown. crisp clean colours for edubuntu [12:23] ogra, I could successfully netboot and install a "server" option from Edubuntu box to the Fujistlu laptop :D [12:23] GPL, yes. where should Upload them? I might just make versions without logos first [12:23] ogra, now, I wanted to install the whole edubuntu package, what should I do? [12:23] versions with the MM logo would be cool [12:23] yeah! [12:24] ThemeMarket should be the place [12:24] OK, I'll upload both themes soonish [12:25] hno73, so these theme will not be subject of : "no, you can't modify the theme fonts, lines, colors,etc. Not even turn them around..." stanzas [12:25] okidoki [12:25] we should make a high visibility theme too [12:26] mhz_edu: what do you mean? [12:26] Oh yes! That's important and thoughtful. Ping me if you need anything else I can help you with. [12:27] basically, everything regarding edubuntu logo it has some weired understandable but not fully accepted restrictions [12:27] right, yeah, so we would just remove that and people can do what they want with the theme [12:28] like you can't turn the logo around, you can't give it a twist, etc [12:28] exactly :D [12:28] especially, "people" like mhz :D [12:29] Instead with the Debian logo, I rememebr I could make it look whatever I felt like [12:29] hm, ok [12:30] well, ping me if I can help [12:30] thanks === hno73 goes into design mode now to sort out the static pages ... === mhz_edu is now known as mhz_trying_solve === mhz_trying_solve is now known as mhz_fighting_dhc === mhz_fighting_dhc is now known as mhz_fightin_dhcp [12:31] lol [12:33] jsgotangco, hi there [12:33] hi [12:33] jsgotangco, are you also part of ubuntu doc? [12:34] yes i manage some stuff over there [12:34] more specifically.. are you part of Wiki ubuntu doc team? [12:34]