| _verwilst | Riddell: ok? /me wants to go to bed :p | 12:02 |
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| Riddell | verwilst: cool, thanks | 12:06 |
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| _verwilst | Riddell: will ubuntu use ahavi? | 12:11 |
| _verwilst | avahi | 12:11 |
| _verwilst | oh, and will you include my pkgs in the kubuntu.org repo? :d | 12:12 |
| _verwilst | ( they are breezy pkgs btw ) | 12:12 |
| Riddell | verwilst: yes, in dapper | 12:13 |
| _verwilst | ahah cool :d | 12:17 |
| _verwilst | and visibility too? | 12:17 |
| Riddell | yep | 12:19 |
| _verwilst | sweet :d | 12:19 |
| _verwilst | Riddell: so, do you like my debs? :p | 12:19 |
| Riddell | looking at them is still on my TODO list | 12:20 |
| _verwilst | ;) | 12:20 |
| _verwilst | let me know what you think eh! | 12:20 |
| _verwilst | i might to kdepim soon too | 12:20 |
| _verwilst | see ya! | 12:20 |
| Riddell | will do :) | 12:20 |
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| Tm_T | Riddell: http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_065.png | 12:47 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: hcirc irc-client, a bit too raw :p | 12:47 |
| Riddell | nothing wrong with good old nc irc.freenode.net 6667 | 12:48 |
| Tm_T | heh | 12:49 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: that client is made by my friend over 7(?) years ago | 12:49 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: I thought I will do some improvenments to it :) | 12:49 |
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| m_tadeu | verwilst: any luck with that package? | 02:15 |
| jmg | hmm | 02:16 |
| jmg | anyone having problems with keyboard layouts? | 02:16 |
| m_tadeu | probably me...it never happened....what is it? | 02:17 |
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| Tm_T | m_tadeu: stop using colours? | 02:18 |
| Tm_T | ah | 02:18 |
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| janimo | does kubuntu use ivman, for detecting media insertion? | 08:36 |
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| seaLne | err should libkorundum0-ruby1.8 really be trying to delete /usr/local? | 09:51 |
| seaLne | Preparing to replace libkorundum0-ruby1.8 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu3.1 (using .../libkorundum0-ruby1.8_4%3a3.4.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb) ... | 09:51 |
| seaLne | Unpacking replacement libkorundum0-ruby1.8 ... | 09:51 |
| seaLne | dpkg: warning - unable to delete old directory `/usr/local/lib': Directory not empty | 09:51 |
| seaLne | dpkg: warning - unable to delete old directory `/usr/local': Directory not empty | 09:52 |
| seaLne | but it is good that its now in /usr | 09:53 |
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| seaLne | while i had a rebuilt version of libkorundum0-ruby1.8 that included the missing bits I'd assume that the same effect would have occured with the normal version | 10:05 |
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| Tm_T | hi JakubS_ | 10:58 |
| JakubS_ | hello | 10:58 |
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| CaiN_SA | hi Riddell | 11:13 |
| CaiN_SA | you in ? | 11:13 |
| CaiN_SA | Riddell: ping | 11:23 |
| verwilst | anybody wanna test kdenetwork on breezy? ;) | 11:25 |
| verwilst | http://ubuntu.verwilst.be | 11:25 |
| verwilst | it's not a repo yet though :p | 11:25 |
| verwilst | ( 3.5 beta1 that is ) | 11:25 |
| CaiN_SA | lol there is a bug with that on old version | 11:28 |
| CaiN_SA | dont know if you fixed it | 11:28 |
| CaiN_SA | or no im thinkin of something else | 11:29 |
| verwilst | uh? | 11:39 |
| CaiN_SA | nah dont worry | 11:42 |
| CaiN_SA | i am nuts | 11:42 |
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| chmj | amu ? | 11:57 |
| CaiN_SA | lol | 12:00 |
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| amu | chmj: I /msg him, mail him, no re :/ | 12:20 |
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| chmj | :/ | 12:21 |
| janimo | anybody knows about ivman's integration with kubuntu? | 12:24 |
| pef | hello | 12:40 |
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| \sh | Riddell: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17390 <- do u have something in your pocket? | 01:07 |
| Riddell | \sh: it's a firefox problem, poke Ian | 01:15 |
| \sh | Riddell: see ubuntu-devel | 01:15 |
| \sh | Riddell: I'm checking the firefox package... | 01:16 |
| CaiN_SA | Riddell, may i pvt you plz | 01:34 |
| CaiN_SA | i need some info | 01:34 |
| CaiN_SA | charles said i must speak to you | 01:35 |
| Riddell | caok | 01:36 |
| \sh | Riddell: what is the correct way? divert, conflicts? | 01:37 |
| Riddell | \sh: divert I think | 01:38 |
| \sh | Riddell: how? | 01:38 |
| Riddell | amu: sorry, I'll get to you soon | 01:39 |
| Riddell | \sh: dpkg-divert I think | 01:39 |
| \sh | Riddell: so we change the symlink? | 01:53 |
| \sh | or I don't understand the manpage of dpkg-divert | 01:54 |
| Riddell | \sh: I'm not sure, I've never used it :) | 01:55 |
| \sh | aha | 01:57 |
| \sh | I just checked e.g. slocate for an example | 01:57 |
| \sh | dpkg-divert in preinst | 01:57 |
| Riddell | sounds about right | 01:57 |
| \sh | so something like this | 01:58 |
| \sh | dpkg-divert --package kubuntu-docs --divert /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html --rename /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index-ubuntu.html | 01:59 |
| \sh | and then setting the link via kubuntu-docs-5.10/debian/kubuntu-docs.links | 01:59 |
| Riddell | groovy | 02:00 |
| Riddell | I'll add that when I upload the new kubuntu-docs | 02:00 |
| \sh | I need the korrect localtion of about-kubuntu.html | 02:00 |
| \sh | -k+c | 02:00 |
| \sh | I could test it here right now ;) | 02:01 |
| Riddell | /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/khelpcenter/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/C/index.html | 02:02 |
| \sh | ok...and we need a postrm to remove the divert | 02:02 |
| \sh | rock..let's try | 02:02 |
| verwilst | hmmm kopete from kde 3.5 beta looks nice : | 02:11 |
| verwilst | :$ | 02:11 |
| \sh | hmmm...ok...building kubuntu-docs...lets check | 02:21 |
| \sh | Riddell: if this is working for me here on ubuntu/kubuntu mixed system, I'll send u an debdiff, can u check this out on a plain kubuntu-install? | 02:22 |
| Riddell | \sh: sure | 02:26 |
| \sh | damn...the other way around *grmpf* | 02:27 |
| \sh | fixing | 02:27 |
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| \sh | and again :( | 02:54 |
| Riddell | amu: I havn't got any /msg from you, you need to identify your nick | 02:56 |
| \sh | strike | 03:00 |
| \sh | preinst works | 03:01 |
| \sh | postrm doesn | 03:01 |
| \sh | 't | 03:01 |
| Riddell | have you done it by hand? | 03:01 |
| \sh | well...I just got the syntax wrong ;) | 03:02 |
| \sh | i did it now by hand..works now...rebuilding the package | 03:02 |
| \sh | if you understand the manpage..it's fcking easy to do it ;) | 03:03 |
| \sh | the problem is only, when u install kubuntu-docs and you have an installed ubuntu-desktop with ubuntu-docs ;) | 03:04 |
| \sh | then it will divert the index.html link and you will get even in ubuntu a kubuntu homepage ;) | 03:04 |
| \sh | but please test it just now on a plain kubuntu install and I think I'll have to adjust some stuff when ubuntu-docs is installed | 03:05 |
| \sh | and this should be done for ubuntu-docs as well... | 03:06 |
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| \sh | but i think not the ubuntu guys ;) | 03:07 |
| \sh | strike | 03:08 |
| Riddell | \sh: got a debdiff | 03:08 |
| \sh | sending to you just now :) | 03:08 |
| \sh | jriddell@riddell.com? | 03:09 |
| Riddell | jriddell@ubuntu.com but I prefer just a URL | 03:09 |
| \sh | too late :( | 03:10 |
| \sh | to the ubuntu.com | 03:10 |
| \sh | hmmm... | 03:12 |
| \sh | Riddell: u have it? | 03:19 |
| Riddell | yep, hang o | 03:22 |
| Riddell | on | 03:22 |
| Riddell | \sh: works great, I'll upload when I do the rest of the kubuntu-docs updates | 03:34 |
| \sh | Riddell: kewl | 03:50 |
| \sh | Riddell: I'll set http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17390 to pending upload and assign it to you, k? | 03:51 |
| Riddell | \sh: sure | 03:52 |
| \sh | fine :) | 03:52 |
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| JRe | Riddell: #kubuntu-fr is active from now you can add it on the kubuntu website | 04:55 |
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| Riddell | hello janimo | 04:57 |
| janimo | Hey Riddell | 05:03 |
| janimo | I wanted to ask you about ivman integration in kubuntu | 05:03 |
| janimo | I am investigating using it with xfce | 05:03 |
| JRe | xubuntu ? | 05:04 |
| janimo | yes | 05:04 |
| janimo | so does kubuntu use ivman as the equivalent of gnome-volume-manager? | 05:04 |
| janimo | I just started playing with ivamn todat, don't know much about it | 05:05 |
| Riddell | janimo: yes, we use ivman for gnome-volume-manager equivalent | 05:05 |
| janimo | Any kde side files that are modified to work with ivman? | 05:05 |
| Riddell | that may change with kde 3.5 since JRe's stiff replaces some of what we need ivman for | 05:05 |
| Riddell | janimo: /etc/ivman/IvmConfigActions.xml | 05:05 |
| Riddell | no kde stuff modified | 05:06 |
| Riddell | just ivman set up to launch the appropraite kde bits | 05:06 |
| janimo | Riddell, so what comes with the default ivman package is good to go regardless of DE? | 05:06 |
| janimo | oh let me check | 05:06 |
| Riddell | janimo: I can't remember what upstream ships with but I changed ivman to run KDE stuff | 05:06 |
| janimo | btw there a new upstream -they say it's a typo fix for pmount but you probably know that | 05:06 |
| janimo | ah I see now, kfmclient, kdialog, kscd | 05:07 |
| janimo | I wonder how I could do similar stuff for xfce without breaking the current status? | 05:08 |
| janimo | ie from the same package | 05:08 |
| JRe | sebas: are you the maintainer of guidance ? | 05:08 |
| Riddell | janimo: you could just do a dpkg-divert | 05:08 |
| janimo | aha, I need to learn about that | 05:08 |
| janimo | so that stuff is used for allubuntu derivatives | 05:09 |
| janimo | to set up slightly different defaults? | 05:09 |
| Riddell | janimo: which stuff? | 05:09 |
| janimo | dpkg-divert stuff | 05:09 |
| janimo | what is different between ubuntu and kubuntu apart from the package list? | 05:10 |
| janimo | I mean /etc settings and other configurable files | 05:10 |
| Riddell | janimo: nothing :) | 05:10 |
| janimo | cool :) | 05:10 |
| janimo | then you don;t actually use dpkg-divert for anything to override ubuntu defaults for kubuntu? | 05:10 |
| Riddell | janimo: what's the status of xubuntu? do you have seeds and stuff? | 05:11 |
| janimo | Riddell, I mailed Kamion today about seeding | 05:11 |
| janimo | so he tells me what I have to do, as I am not sure | 05:11 |
| Riddell | janimo: only case where we need it is kubuntu-docs with a synlink to the file that firefox expects to find ubuntu-docs | 05:11 |
| Riddell | janimo: have you seen SeedManagement on wiki? | 05:11 |
| janimo | right, we need that too, as by default firefox tries that link and it;'s not there | 05:11 |
| janimo | I have read seed management a while ago | 05:12 |
| janimo | I may have to revisit that page | 05:12 |
| janimo | do you have permissions to modify the kubuntu seed list? | 05:12 |
| Riddell | janimo: I do | 05:12 |
| janimo | do you use germinate to generate it? | 05:12 |
| Riddell | janimo: I don't use germinate or build the CD that's all magic done by Kamion | 05:13 |
| janimo | I suppose something similar needs to be set up for xubuntu as well | 05:13 |
| Riddell | janimo: when we use launchpad the whole seed/germinate thing will probably change | 05:13 |
| janimo | aha so what do you actualy when you modify the seed list? | 05:13 |
| janimo | log in and change that wiki style text file? | 05:13 |
| Riddell | janimo: yes, baz update; emacs desktop; baz commit | 05:14 |
| janimo | the do an update and a rebuild of the kubuntu-meta package? | 05:14 |
| Riddell | janimo: exactly | 05:14 |
| janimo | s you check out kamions branch and have commit right to the seed archive? | 05:14 |
| Riddell | janimo: yes | 05:15 |
| janimo | Riddell, thanks a lot | 05:15 |
| janimo | then Kamion will probably set me up these days | 05:15 |
| Riddell | I suspect kamion will be quite busy this week | 05:15 |
| janimo | I he told me he'll get to do this so I sent him a mail today | 05:16 |
| janimo | I am sure he's busy | 05:16 |
| janimo | a detail: don;t you have to conflict with ubnutu-docs if you provide a symlink with the same name as their index file? | 05:17 |
| janimo | if I understood correctly | 05:18 |
| Riddell | janimo: no because we use dpkg-divert | 05:18 |
| Riddell | or we will do in a few hours when I upload this package | 05:18 |
| Riddell | janimo: what's your e-mail? I can bounce you this diff to kubuntu-docs \sh_away made | 05:19 |
| sebas | JRe: One of the developers, yes. | 05:19 |
| janimo | jani @ ubuntu.com | 05:22 |
| janimo | Riddell, got it thanks | 05:31 |
| amu | Riddell: running breezy on a minimac it shows sound is disabled, but sound works, next klaptop is enabled ... but i'm running a desktop :D | 05:34 |
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| m_tadeu | verwilst: hi there | 08:37 |
| m_tadeu | verwilst: hi there :P | 08:37 |
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| Tonio- | Riddell: last update caused a little issue with french encoding ;) | 09:17 |
| Tonio- | ?? | 09:17 |
| Tonio- | doesn't work... | 09:17 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: update from what to what? | 09:18 |
| Tonio- | dist-upgrade, simply ;) | 09:20 |
| Tonio- | I think it has caused a little issue.... | 09:20 |
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| Tonio- | , okay that's better ;) | 09:27 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: what did you change? | 09:28 |
| Riddell | square boxes now instead of question marks | 09:28 |
| Tonio- | LANGUAGE="fr_FR:fr" | 09:29 |
| Tonio- | LANG=fr_FR | 09:29 |
| Tonio- | I modified /etc/environment, adding then modified /etc/locale.gen | 09:29 |
| Tonio- | and then rebuilt with sudo locale-gen | 09:29 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: apparently the default config is really buggy.... but it'll be corrected, many people will send the bug, I have no doubt on this ;) | 09:30 |
| Tonio- | I will try on my second pc and if that bugs too, I'll post a bug report | 09:31 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: do you know if adept is ready for multilangage ? | 09:32 |
| Tonio- | I looked if it was possible to translate it into french but didn't found.... | 09:32 |
| Riddell | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n/templates/messages/playground-sysadmin/ | 09:36 |
| Riddell | nothing there | 09:36 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: will have ti wait for the next version maybe... | 09:39 |
| Riddell | by which time we should be rosetta support with any luck | 09:40 |
| allee | Riddell: why not ask mornfall to add the adept template and let kde trans teams do the work? | 09:42 |
| Riddell | allee: the trouble is that the template isn't being generated (something to do with the Makefile.am) | 09:43 |
| allee | Tonio-: there nothing stoping you to grab the gmo file start kbable and create a french translation ;) | 09:43 |
| Riddell | there is no gmo file | 09:43 |
| allee | Riddell: missing make messages target? | 09:44 |
| Tonio- | allee: here is the problem, no gmo file, I already searched but didn't found anything | 09:44 |
| allee | should be sort of easy to fix. copy a messages: target for another kde app | 09:46 |
| allee | messages: rc.cpp | 09:47 |
| allee | $(EXTRACTRC) `find . -name "*.ui"` >> rc.cpp | 09:47 |
| allee | $(EXTRACTRC) `find . -name "*.rc"` >> rc.cpp | 09:47 |
| allee | $(PREPARETIPS) > tips.cpp | 09:47 |
| allee | LIST=`find . -name \*.h -o -name \*.hh -o -name \*.H -o -name \*.hxx -o -name \*.hpp -o -name \*.cpp -o -name \*.cc -o -name \*.cxx -o -name \*.ecpp -o -name \*.C`; \ | 09:47 |
| allee | if test -n "$$LIST"; then \ | 09:47 |
| allee | $(XGETTEXT) $$LIST -o $(podir)/digikam.pot; \ | 09:47 |
| allee | fi | 09:47 |
| allee | rm -f tips.cpp | 09:47 |
| allee | mhh maybe it's not the gmo but the pot file. s/digikam/adept/ | 09:47 |
| Tonio- | I'll have a look... | 09:47 |
| allee | oh, adept is a debian native pkg (aka no .diff) | 09:49 |
| Riddell | allee: yeah, don't ask me why | 09:51 |
| Riddell | how do I know what the .pot file should be called I wonder | 09:52 |
| allee | normaly <appname>.pot | 09:52 |
| Riddell | hmm, and what about libept | 09:55 |
| allee | if it has I18N the libept.pot. One needs to adust the wildcards to match the right thing. I'll check digikamimageplugins with generates dozends of .pot files ... | 09:57 |
| allee | yeap, every <plugin>/Makefile.am in d-imageplugins has a messages target writing to $(podir)/<plugin-name>.pot | 10:01 |
| Riddell | ok | 10:02 |
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| allee | I just learn that script runs messages targets in playground too | 10:03 |
| allee | Riddell: so kicking mornfall to add/commit should be enough | 10:04 |
| allee | oh, no mornfall here :( | 10:04 |
| Riddell | allee: I just committed it | 10:05 |
| Riddell | so we'll see tomorrow if I did it right | 10:05 |
| Riddell | but it'll be too late for breezy I'm afraid | 10:05 |
| allee | even a translation? | 10:06 |
| Riddell | yeah, no new features and adding translationing is a feature | 10:06 |
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| allee | Riddell: not a but ;) | 10:08 |
| Mez | lo all | 10:09 |
| allee | btw. FWIW bin: adept-updater and adept_updater.pot. Not about s/_/-/ ?! | 10:09 |
| allee | hi Mez | 10:09 |
| allee | s/about/sure about/ | 10:09 |
| Riddell | allee: I don't think so, it's adept_updater that's passed to KAboutData (same as icon name) | 10:11 |
| allee | Riddell: okay | 10:16 |
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| _verwilst | hellow | 10:18 |
| _verwilst | Riddell: had the chance to checkout kdenetwork? :$ | 10:18 |
| Riddell | verwilst: no :( | 10:19 |
| Riddell | too much breezy stuff | 10:19 |
| Riddell | maybe later today | 10:19 |
| === allee pesters Tonio- to not forget submitting the wlassitant bug reports | ||
| Tonio- | allee: right !!! I forgot..... i'm gona do it right now | 10:23 |
| allee | Tonio-: thx a lot | 10:23 |
| Tonio- | no pb | 10:23 |
| Tonio- | allee: posted : https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=134488&atid=730104 | 10:32 |
| allee | Tonio-: thx more to come? | 10:33 |
| allee | + :) | 10:33 |
| Tonio- | you mean ? Ho !! talking about refreshing quality link after scan ?? | 10:36 |
| Riddell | I liked aseigo's posting to kde-devel about network tools | 10:38 |
| _verwilst | Riddell: hehe okido | 10:38 |
| _verwilst | in the meantime, i'm enjoying my new kopete ;) | 10:39 |
| allee | Tonio-: mhmm, yes. I vaguely remembering you to mention 3-4 bugs | 10:40 |
| Tonio- | I mensionned 2 | 10:40 |
| Tonio- | but i don't know if the second one is a bug..... | 10:40 |
| allee | why not? | 10:40 |
| Tonio- | In fact link quality chances when rescanning, that's okay, but the value is according to me very low.... | 10:40 |
| Tonio- | never more that 3.5/5 while i'm 20 inches from the access point..... and kwifimanager tells me 5/5.... | 10:41 |
| allee | Tonio-: link quality changes but that no reason to hide this fact | 10:41 |
| Tonio- | allee: okay, posting ;) | 10:42 |
| === allee likes pestering ;) | ||
| Tonio- | ;) | 10:42 |
| Tonio- | while I'm posting, allee did you already tried to rip and encode a cd using the konqueror kio_slave ? | 10:43 |
| Tonio- | it read at 1x on my machine and I was unable to find any way to set the speed.... | 10:43 |
| allee | no, only once when it was a new featue | 10:43 |
| Tonio- | I'm not ripping a lot, but well I recently bought a few cds and that's slooooooooooooooooooooooow ! | 10:44 |
| allee | Tonio-: 1x is not fun. agreed | 10:45 |
| allee | Riddell: [Bug 17489] New: No translation of the modules in kde-systemsettings | 10:45 |
| allee | there are only 5 kcm_* po files on my system | 10:46 |
| allee | is this a known bug of ripping translations out of kde-i18n-<lang> | 10:46 |
| Riddell | allee: the kde-systemsettings issue is a known one that's on my todo list for today, havn't looked further currently | 10:47 |
| allee | 'k I'll walk down kubuntu-bugs list then | 10:48 |
| Tonio- | allee: second bug posted, no need to pester anymore ^^ | 10:50 |
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| allee | Tonio-: thx. | 10:51 |
| Tonio- | allee: no pb | 10:52 |
| allee | Tonio-: did the link quality get ever updated after pressing 'rescan' | 10:54 |
| allee | +? | 10:55 |
| Tonio- | yep | 10:55 |
| Tonio- | let me test once again to be sure | 10:55 |
| Tonio- | allee: I can confirm you that it is updated, yes | 10:56 |
| allee | Tonio-: mhmm, okay. Seem I need some more tests ... | 10:58 |
| === Tonio- time for a little coffee | ||
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| janimo | Riddell, ivman seems to need both hal and pmount but they're not in Depends: , but guess they are in the base so it does not matter that much | 11:40 |
| Riddell | janimo: hmm | 11:41 |
| Riddell | janimo: I'm happy to upload a fix if you give me the debdiff :) | 11:42 |
| janimo | I just installed it over ubuntu-minimal | 11:42 |
| janimo | ah ok, I will then | 11:42 |
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| janimo | there's an upstream I am also looking at to see what their default configs are and it supposedly fixes a pmount related bug | 11:42 |
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