[12:02] <_verwilst> Riddell: ok? /me wants to go to bed :p === \sh is now known as \sh_away [12:06] verwilst: cool, thanks === hunger [n=hunger@p54A6333A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:11] <_verwilst> Riddell: will ubuntu use ahavi? [12:11] <_verwilst> avahi [12:12] <_verwilst> oh, and will you include my pkgs in the kubuntu.org repo? :d [12:12] <_verwilst> ( they are breezy pkgs btw ) [12:13] verwilst: yes, in dapper [12:17] <_verwilst> ahah cool :d [12:17] <_verwilst> and visibility too? [12:19] yep [12:19] <_verwilst> sweet :d [12:19] <_verwilst> Riddell: so, do you like my debs? :p [12:20] looking at them is still on my TODO list [12:20] <_verwilst> ;) [12:20] <_verwilst> let me know what you think eh! [12:20] <_verwilst> i might to kdepim soon too [12:20] <_verwilst> see ya! [12:20] will do :) === m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-9-177.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [12:47] Riddell: http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_065.png [12:47] Riddell: hcirc irc-client, a bit too raw :p [12:48] nothing wrong with good old nc irc.freenode.net 6667 [12:49] heh [12:49] Riddell: that client is made by my friend over 7(?) years ago [12:49] Riddell: I thought I will do some improvenments to it :) === N17R0 [n=w00t@unaffiliated/n17r0] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb02.london.02.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb04.london.02.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === m_tadeu [n=m_Tadeu@85.138.222.128] has joined #kubuntu-devel === dikadika [n=larry@63-228-112-126.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === m_tadeu [n=m_Tadeu@85.138.222.128] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === m_tadeu [n=m_Tadeu@85.138.222.128] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:15] verwilst: any luck with that package? [02:16] hmm [02:16] anyone having problems with keyboard layouts? [02:17] probably me...it never happened....what is it? === m_tadeu [n=m_Tadeu@85.138.222.128] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [02:18] m_tadeu: stop using colours? [02:18] ah === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb04.london.02.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.196] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A61DD3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@65.99.187.196] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.196] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:36] does kubuntu use ivman, for detecting media insertion? === pet [n=pet@68.199.55.127] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F7B71.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:51] err should libkorundum0-ruby1.8 really be trying to delete /usr/local? [09:51] Preparing to replace libkorundum0-ruby1.8 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu3.1 (using .../libkorundum0-ruby1.8_4%3a3.4.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb) ... [09:51] Unpacking replacement libkorundum0-ruby1.8 ... [09:51] dpkg: warning - unable to delete old directory `/usr/local/lib': Directory not empty [09:52] dpkg: warning - unable to delete old directory `/usr/local': Directory not empty [09:53] but it is good that its now in /usr === Tonio- [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:05] while i had a rebuilt version of libkorundum0-ruby1.8 that included the missing bits I'd assume that the same effect would have occured with the normal version === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D24E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JakubS_ [n=qbast@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:58] hi JakubS_ [10:58] hello === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-106-165.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chmj [n=chmj@wbs-146-181-174.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:13] hi Riddell [11:13] you in ? [11:23] Riddell: ping [11:25] anybody wanna test kdenetwork on breezy? ;) [11:25] http://ubuntu.verwilst.be [11:25] it's not a repo yet though :p [11:25] ( 3.5 beta1 that is ) [11:28] lol there is a bug with that on old version [11:28] dont know if you fixed it [11:29] or no im thinkin of something else [11:39] uh? [11:42] nah dont worry [11:42] i am nuts === amu feels like totally ignored by Riddell :( === JakubS_ [n=qbast@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Going] [11:57] amu ? [12:00] lol === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:20] chmj: I /msg him, mail him, no re :/ === hunger [n=hunger@p54A60657.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:21] :/ [12:24] anybody knows about ivman's integration with kubuntu? [12:40] hello === kkasina [n=ken@62.56.250.78] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:07] <\sh> Riddell: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17390 <- do u have something in your pocket? [01:15] \sh: it's a firefox problem, poke Ian [01:15] <\sh> Riddell: see ubuntu-devel [01:16] <\sh> Riddell: I'm checking the firefox package... [01:34] Riddell, may i pvt you plz [01:34] i need some info [01:35] charles said i must speak to you [01:36] ca ok [01:37] <\sh> Riddell: what is the correct way? divert, conflicts? [01:38] \sh: divert I think [01:38] <\sh> Riddell: how? [01:39] amu: sorry, I'll get to you soon [01:39] \sh: dpkg-divert I think [01:53] <\sh> Riddell: so we change the symlink? [01:54] <\sh> or I don't understand the manpage of dpkg-divert [01:55] \sh: I'm not sure, I've never used it :) [01:57] <\sh> aha [01:57] <\sh> I just checked e.g. slocate for an example [01:57] <\sh> dpkg-divert in preinst [01:57] sounds about right [01:58] <\sh> so something like this [01:59] <\sh> dpkg-divert --package kubuntu-docs --divert /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html --rename /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index-ubuntu.html [01:59] <\sh> and then setting the link via kubuntu-docs-5.10/debian/kubuntu-docs.links [02:00] groovy [02:00] I'll add that when I upload the new kubuntu-docs [02:00] <\sh> I need the korrect localtion of about-kubuntu.html [02:00] <\sh> -k+c [02:01] <\sh> I could test it here right now ;) [02:02] /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/khelpcenter/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/C/index.html [02:02] <\sh> ok...and we need a postrm to remove the divert [02:02] <\sh> rock..let's try [02:11] hmmm kopete from kde 3.5 beta looks nice : [02:11] :$ [02:21] <\sh> hmmm...ok...building kubuntu-docs...lets check [02:22] <\sh> Riddell: if this is working for me here on ubuntu/kubuntu mixed system, I'll send u an debdiff, can u check this out on a plain kubuntu-install? [02:26] \sh: sure [02:27] <\sh> damn...the other way around *grmpf* [02:27] <\sh> fixing === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:54] <\sh> and again :( [02:56] amu: I havn't got any /msg from you, you need to identify your nick [03:00] <\sh> strike [03:01] <\sh> preinst works [03:01] <\sh> postrm doesn [03:01] <\sh> 't [03:01] have you done it by hand? [03:02] <\sh> well...I just got the syntax wrong ;) [03:02] <\sh> i did it now by hand..works now...rebuilding the package [03:03] <\sh> if you understand the manpage..it's fcking easy to do it ;) [03:04] <\sh> the problem is only, when u install kubuntu-docs and you have an installed ubuntu-desktop with ubuntu-docs ;) [03:04] <\sh> then it will divert the index.html link and you will get even in ubuntu a kubuntu homepage ;) [03:05] <\sh> but please test it just now on a plain kubuntu install and I think I'll have to adjust some stuff when ubuntu-docs is installed [03:06] <\sh> and this should be done for ubuntu-docs as well... === Riddell is quite happy with a kubuntu page on an ubuntu install :) [03:07] <\sh> but i think not the ubuntu guys ;) [03:08] <\sh> strike [03:08] \sh: got a debdiff [03:08] <\sh> sending to you just now :) [03:09] <\sh> jriddell@riddell.com? [03:09] jriddell@ubuntu.com but I prefer just a URL [03:10] <\sh> too late :( [03:10] <\sh> to the ubuntu.com [03:12] <\sh> hmmm... [03:19] <\sh> Riddell: u have it? [03:22] yep, hang o [03:22] on [03:34] \sh: works great, I'll upload when I do the rest of the kubuntu-docs updates [03:50] <\sh> Riddell: kewl [03:51] <\sh> Riddell: I'll set http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17390 to pending upload and assign it to you, k? [03:52] \sh: sure [03:52] <\sh> fine :) === aeig [n=carl@80-218-120-150.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh is now known as \sh_away [04:55] Riddell: #kubuntu-fr is active from now you can add it on the kubuntu website === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:57] hello janimo [05:03] Hey Riddell [05:03] I wanted to ask you about ivman integration in kubuntu [05:03] I am investigating using it with xfce [05:04] xubuntu ? [05:04] yes [05:04] so does kubuntu use ivman as the equivalent of gnome-volume-manager? [05:05] I just started playing with ivamn todat, don't know much about it [05:05] janimo: yes, we use ivman for gnome-volume-manager equivalent [05:05] Any kde side files that are modified to work with ivman? [05:05] that may change with kde 3.5 since JRe's stiff replaces some of what we need ivman for [05:05] janimo: /etc/ivman/IvmConfigActions.xml [05:06] no kde stuff modified [05:06] just ivman set up to launch the appropraite kde bits [05:06] Riddell, so what comes with the default ivman package is good to go regardless of DE? [05:06] oh let me check [05:06] janimo: I can't remember what upstream ships with but I changed ivman to run KDE stuff [05:06] btw there a new upstream -they say it's a typo fix for pmount but you probably know that [05:07] ah I see now, kfmclient, kdialog, kscd [05:08] I wonder how I could do similar stuff for xfce without breaking the current status? [05:08] ie from the same package [05:08] sebas: are you the maintainer of guidance ? [05:08] janimo: you could just do a dpkg-divert [05:08] aha, I need to learn about that [05:09] so that stuff is used for allubuntu derivatives [05:09] to set up slightly different defaults? [05:09] janimo: which stuff? [05:09] dpkg-divert stuff [05:10] what is different between ubuntu and kubuntu apart from the package list? [05:10] I mean /etc settings and other configurable files [05:10] janimo: nothing :) [05:10] cool :) [05:10] then you don;t actually use dpkg-divert for anything to override ubuntu defaults for kubuntu? [05:11] janimo: what's the status of xubuntu? do you have seeds and stuff? [05:11] Riddell, I mailed Kamion today about seeding [05:11] so he tells me what I have to do, as I am not sure [05:11] janimo: only case where we need it is kubuntu-docs with a synlink to the file that firefox expects to find ubuntu-docs [05:11] janimo: have you seen SeedManagement on wiki? [05:11] right, we need that too, as by default firefox tries that link and it;'s not there [05:12] I have read seed management a while ago [05:12] I may have to revisit that page [05:12] do you have permissions to modify the kubuntu seed list? [05:12] janimo: I do [05:12] do you use germinate to generate it? [05:13] janimo: I don't use germinate or build the CD that's all magic done by Kamion [05:13] I suppose something similar needs to be set up for xubuntu as well [05:13] janimo: when we use launchpad the whole seed/germinate thing will probably change [05:13] aha so what do you actualy when you modify the seed list? [05:13] log in and change that wiki style text file? [05:14] janimo: yes, baz update; emacs desktop; baz commit [05:14] the do an update and a rebuild of the kubuntu-meta package? [05:14] janimo: exactly [05:14] s you check out kamions branch and have commit right to the seed archive? [05:15] janimo: yes [05:15] Riddell, thanks a lot [05:15] then Kamion will probably set me up these days [05:15] I suspect kamion will be quite busy this week [05:16] I he told me he'll get to do this so I sent him a mail today [05:16] I am sure he's busy [05:17] a detail: don;t you have to conflict with ubnutu-docs if you provide a symlink with the same name as their index file? [05:18] if I understood correctly [05:18] janimo: no because we use dpkg-divert [05:18] or we will do in a few hours when I upload this package [05:19] janimo: what's your e-mail? I can bounce you this diff to kubuntu-docs \sh_away made [05:19] JRe: One of the developers, yes. [05:22] jani @ ubuntu.com [05:31] Riddell, got it thanks [05:34] Riddell: running breezy on a minimac it shows sound is disabled, but sound works, next klaptop is enabled ... but i'm running a desktop :D === \sh_away is now known as \sh === author-psi [n=marcel@p50904AFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh is now known as \sh_away === hunger [n=hunger@p54A6110E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === _marcel [n=marcel@p50906023.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === author-psi [n=marcel@p50906023.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marcel [n=marcel@p50906023.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === m_tadeu [n=m_Tadeu@85.138.222.108] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb04.london.02.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:37] verwilst: hi there [08:37] verwilst: hi there :P === Tonio- [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aeig [n=carl@80-218-120-150.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio- [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aeig [n=carl@80-218-120-150.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:17] Riddell: last update caused a little issue with french encoding ;) [09:17] ?? [09:17] doesn't work... [09:18] Tonio-: update from what to what? [09:20] dist-upgrade, simply ;) [09:20] I think it has caused a little issue.... === Tonio- [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:27] , okay that's better ;) [09:28] Tonio-: what did you change? [09:28] square boxes now instead of question marks [09:29] LANGUAGE="fr_FR:fr" [09:29] LANG=fr_FR [09:29] I modified /etc/environment, adding then modified /etc/locale.gen [09:29] and then rebuilt with sudo locale-gen [09:30] Riddell: apparently the default config is really buggy.... but it'll be corrected, many people will send the bug, I have no doubt on this ;) [09:31] I will try on my second pc and if that bugs too, I'll post a bug report [09:32] Riddell: do you know if adept is ready for multilangage ? [09:32] I looked if it was possible to translate it into french but didn't found.... [09:36] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n/templates/messages/playground-sysadmin/ [09:36] nothing there [09:39] Riddell: will have ti wait for the next version maybe... [09:40] by which time we should be rosetta support with any luck [09:42] Riddell: why not ask mornfall to add the adept template and let kde trans teams do the work? [09:43] allee: the trouble is that the template isn't being generated (something to do with the Makefile.am) [09:43] Tonio-: there nothing stoping you to grab the gmo file start kbable and create a french translation ;) [09:43] there is no gmo file [09:44] Riddell: missing make messages target? [09:44] allee: here is the problem, no gmo file, I already searched but didn't found anything [09:46] should be sort of easy to fix. copy a messages: target for another kde app [09:47] messages: rc.cpp [09:47] $(EXTRACTRC) `find . -name "*.ui"` >> rc.cpp [09:47] $(EXTRACTRC) `find . -name "*.rc"` >> rc.cpp [09:47] $(PREPARETIPS) > tips.cpp [09:47] LIST=`find . -name \*.h -o -name \*.hh -o -name \*.H -o -name \*.hxx -o -name \*.hpp -o -name \*.cpp -o -name \*.cc -o -name \*.cxx -o -name \*.ecpp -o -name \*.C`; \ [09:47] if test -n "$$LIST"; then \ [09:47] $(XGETTEXT) $$LIST -o $(podir)/digikam.pot; \ [09:47] fi [09:47] rm -f tips.cpp [09:47] mhh maybe it's not the gmo but the pot file. s/digikam/adept/ [09:47] I'll have a look... [09:49] oh, adept is a debian native pkg (aka no .diff) [09:51] allee: yeah, don't ask me why [09:52] how do I know what the .pot file should be called I wonder [09:52] normaly .pot [09:55] hmm, and what about libept [09:57] if it has I18N the libept.pot. One needs to adust the wildcards to match the right thing. I'll check digikamimageplugins with generates dozends of .pot files ... [10:01] yeap, every /Makefile.am in d-imageplugins has a messages target writing to $(podir)/.pot [10:02] ok === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb04.london.02.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:03] I just learn that script runs messages targets in playground too [10:04] Riddell: so kicking mornfall to add/commit should be enough [10:04] oh, no mornfall here :( [10:05] allee: I just committed it [10:05] so we'll see tomorrow if I did it right [10:05] but it'll be too late for breezy I'm afraid [10:06] even a translation? [10:06] yeah, no new features and adding translationing is a feature === Riddell makes up a word [10:08] Riddell: not a but ;) [10:09] lo all [10:09] btw. FWIW bin: adept-updater and adept_updater.pot. Not about s/_/-/ ?! [10:09] hi Mez [10:09] s/about/sure about/ [10:11] allee: I don't think so, it's adept_updater that's passed to KAboutData (same as icon name) [10:16] Riddell: okay === _verwilst [n=verwilst@dD5E0095A.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:18] <_verwilst> hellow [10:18] <_verwilst> Riddell: had the chance to checkout kdenetwork? :$ [10:19] verwilst: no :( [10:19] too much breezy stuff [10:19] maybe later today === allee pesters Tonio- to not forget submitting the wlassitant bug reports [10:23] allee: right !!! I forgot..... i'm gona do it right now [10:23] Tonio-: thx a lot [10:23] no pb [10:32] allee: posted : https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=134488&atid=730104 [10:33] Tonio-: thx more to come? [10:33] + :) [10:36] you mean ? Ho !! talking about refreshing quality link after scan ?? [10:38] I liked aseigo's posting to kde-devel about network tools [10:38] <_verwilst> Riddell: hehe okido [10:39] <_verwilst> in the meantime, i'm enjoying my new kopete ;) [10:40] Tonio-: mhmm, yes. I vaguely remembering you to mention 3-4 bugs [10:40] I mensionned 2 [10:40] but i don't know if the second one is a bug..... [10:40] why not? [10:40] In fact link quality chances when rescanning, that's okay, but the value is according to me very low.... [10:41] never more that 3.5/5 while i'm 20 inches from the access point..... and kwifimanager tells me 5/5.... [10:41] Tonio-: link quality changes but that no reason to hide this fact [10:42] allee: okay, posting ;) === allee likes pestering ;) [10:42] ;) [10:43] while I'm posting, allee did you already tried to rip and encode a cd using the konqueror kio_slave ? [10:43] it read at 1x on my machine and I was unable to find any way to set the speed.... [10:43] no, only once when it was a new featue [10:44] I'm not ripping a lot, but well I recently bought a few cds and that's slooooooooooooooooooooooow ! [10:45] Tonio-: 1x is not fun. agreed [10:45] Riddell: [Bug 17489] New: No translation of the modules in kde-systemsettings [10:46] there are only 5 kcm_* po files on my system [10:46] is this a known bug of ripping translations out of kde-i18n- [10:47] allee: the kde-systemsettings issue is a known one that's on my todo list for today, havn't looked further currently [10:48] 'k I'll walk down kubuntu-bugs list then [10:50] allee: second bug posted, no need to pester anymore ^^ === _verwilst is now known as _verwilstkt === _verwilstkt is now known as _verwilst [10:51] Tonio-: thx. [10:52] allee: no pb [10:54] Tonio-: did the link quality get ever updated after pressing 'rescan' [10:55] +? [10:55] yep [10:55] let me test once again to be sure [10:56] allee: I can confirm you that it is updated, yes [10:58] Tonio-: mhmm, okay. Seem I need some more tests ... === Tonio- time for a little coffee === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:40] Riddell, ivman seems to need both hal and pmount but they're not in Depends: , but guess they are in the base so it does not matter that much [11:41] janimo: hmm [11:42] janimo: I'm happy to upload a fix if you give me the debdiff :) [11:42] I just installed it over ubuntu-minimal [11:42] ah ok, I will then === \sh is now known as \sh_away [11:42] there's an upstream I am also looking at to see what their default configs are and it supposedly fixes a pmount related bug