/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2005/10/15/#kubuntu.txt

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EricCartmanwhat was the repo which had mplayer etc ?12:17
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root__Hi folks. I can't run kubuntu with the default nv driver. What do I need to do to install NVIDIA driveris via apt-get12:18
`Nomadhey!!  And another Breezy fan, I am.. :)12:22
`NomadWas The Gimp replaced by this Krita?12:22
chavoRoot_ the default driver is installed by default12:22
chavochange it to "nv" instead of nvidia12:22
chavooh, he's gone again12:22
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satafterhis there something similar to bearshare for linux12:30
`Nomadsata: gnutella12:30
`Nomadis Konversation as good as xchat?12:31
satafterhgtk-gnutella i find slow, using Konversation now and find it to work great12:32
`Nomadkewl..  I want to keep thi sinstallation lean this time, and if all kapps work fine, I<ll stay with them12:33
`Nomadis it just me or does Konqueror seem to be pretty good!12:37
chavokonq is the best browser out there12:38
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mekgpre-installed Breezzzzzyyy....this is the first install of many where the WinDoze partition is locked...how do you unlock it?  followed the directs for mounting the partition at boot...cant access it?!?!12:46
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chavoyou're spelling it wrong try -> Windows12:47
mekgplol...12:47
chavomekgp, same thing happened to me, I can't write to my fat32 anymore12:48
mekgpit tells me when I tried to mount it after adding it to fstab that mtab??? had control! :D12:48
mekgpmy hda1 is a NTFS...this is the first of about 10 installs of various versions of ubuntu that its done it12:49
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mekgpwhat do you think is doing it chavo??  i wonder if an update from yesterdays install on a machine has changed something??  12:50
chavowell I don't mount my ntfs drives at boot, but I have one huge fat32 partition12:50
chavono idea, I haven't been able to figure out what's up with mine either12:50
mekgphhhmmmm.....the classic quandry of OpenSource! LOL12:51
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twist3dsweet12:51
chavowell I can still copy to it with sudo, so it's not totally broken yet ;)12:51
twist3dcan't beleive this worked12:52
mekgpwonder what would happen if the /hda1 line was deleted from mtab???  ...cringe to think!12:52
twist3d:D12:52
chavowell who knows?12:52
mekgpor....adding a "umask=2200" phrase to the appropriate spot in mtab....12:53
chavoI my mtab is messed up also, it won't let me unmount the drive though12:53
mekgpinteresting...12:53
mekgp112 guru's prowling in here and chavo and I are the only two brainstorming??  LOL12:54
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chavowell I'm idle most of the time also :)12:54
mekgpFE?? u got the live cd/dvd to do an install????12:54
twist3dhow do you change font size in KDE?12:54
`NomadWhere do I find the show desktop app to add the button on the toolbar?12:55
mekgpcontrol panel (system settings) > Appearance > font12:55
twist3dthank you12:55
mekgpright click on toolbar...12:55
mekgpright click on toolbar...nomad12:55
chavo`Nomad, it should be in the applet menu12:55
chavoor in the add applet dialog if you're running 3.512:56
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N17R0is KDE 3.4.3 out of the test phase ?12:59
ubuntu_kde vs gnome12:59
mekgpkde... ;)12:59
ubuntu_hehe12:59
zxsykcokde12:59
mekgpits all a test N17R0....never ends! LOL01:00
N17R0rofl01:00
ubuntu_not clued up enough to give an educated opinion01:00
mekgp...now for only an answer to chavo and I's questions...01:00
mekgperrrr....should say N17R0, its ALWAYS a test01:01
N17R0I just wanna know, cos yesterday it was in test phase, and KDE 3.4.3 just updated again01:01
mekgpoh...hadnt paid attention  me bad!01:01
mekgpwelp folks...back to work! ;)  cya's ;)01:02
twist3dum - how the hell do you install stuff using KDE01:02
N17R0adept01:02
twist3dI need to install falsh player and double click does shit all01:02
mekgp:D    very very carefully twist3d01:03
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mekgpfor Konguer or other browser?01:03
N17R0just download flash from the website, then ./install.sh or something01:03
mekgpactually its not even that complicated...01:03
`NomadIs there a list of sources to add for apt-get?01:04
libbenUptime: 2 days, 3 hours and 7 minutes01:04
mekgpif for Kong, just dwld it....extract to folder...use kong settings to search that folder and <poof> plugin added! ;)01:04
twist3dseesh01:05
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twist3dI have 40 source viewers but nothing actually does anything01:05
Flying_Eaglemekgp, im getting it 510 mb of 2,7 gb...01:05
mekgpNomad...do you have all of the ones in sources.list un-commented already?01:05
twist3dI can look at the source a million different ways but can't intsall it01:05
mekgpgotcha FlyingEagle01:06
mekgpwhat source u lookin at twist3d?01:06
Flying_Eagleim a little laggy cuz im reading on a different desktop01:06
mekgptwist3d????  what do you need the plugin for (flash)?  browser i assssume...01:07
twist3dyes a browser01:08
twist3dis opera available for linux?01:08
`Nomadmekgp: No, I guess I will :)01:08
mekgpshould be...which one u trying to get the plugin into?01:08
twist3dKonquerer at the moment01:08
twist3djust getting opera now01:09
mekgpok, just extract the downloaded flash player file into a folder...then, goto Konguers settings>plugins...and add that folder to the list, then let it scan for it01:10
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twist3dok01:11
mekgpdid it work twist3d? ;)01:11
twist3dI'm trying to install opera at the moment01:12
twist3dwhats the equivilant of .exe in linux?01:12
twist3dIt's like I'm looking at my FTP clientt :(01:12
mekgp.run  .sh  .rpm  .deb   etc etc etc  could be 1 of many twist3d01:13
twist3d?01:14
mekgpdid you get opera thru adept or just download it?01:14
twist3djust download it what is adept/01:14
twist3dsorry I'm on a junk keyboard01:14
mekgpadept=package manager for Breezy (kubuntu)    which version of linux u using?01:15
twist3dI have the file in .tar.gz 01:15
twist3dkubuntu01:15
mekgphoary or breezy version?01:15
twist3dthe latest iso from the site01:16
twist3dnot 5.1 01:16
mekgpok...01:16
`Nomadummm.. I saved my previous .mozilla-thunderbird directoy, but it goes really wrong if I just paste it over the fresh one created by this new thunderbird install :(  I guess I<ll have to figure out exactly which files to bring over01:16
twist3dI know exactly what to tell you if it was a windows system :(01:16
mekgpshould cut/paste PRIOR to install...that'll save ya the headache01:16
twist3d?01:17
mekgpwellll twist3d...look in the (start) K menu...under system...u see synaptic or adept??01:17
twist3dkynaptic01:17
mekgpok...that works....use the search function to find opera listed, if its there, use kynaptic to do the install...thatll save you those headaches01:18
mekgp....or, if your up to a little "edication", follow the instrucs for opera install off there website01:19
mekgpi cant remember all the steps for doing a "manual" install of opera into kubuntu....  :(01:20
mekgpactually, i know firefox will be listed, that'll work better for ya..  ;)01:20
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twist3dTHing is I what you would call a power user in XP/2k01:21
chavoopera have .debs on their site01:21
twist3dI just have no idea what the hell I'm doing with this 01:22
chavofor the latest free version01:22
chavoI installed it for about 2 minutes.01:22
twist3dHow do I do ipconfig?01:23
mekgp:D   if your connected ok now twisted...dont touch that one! :)01:23
twist3dI have the deb d/l'ed in binary...01:23
twist3dWhats the switch for ipconfig01:23
twist3dI had to edit .etc/network/interfaces just to get it to work01:24
mekgpwhat are you attempting twist3d with the ipconfig?  i might be able to give you the command...01:25
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twist3dI jsut want to see what the IP resolved to...01:26
mekgpif you have the .deb file, right-clicking should give you options for install i think in kubuntu??!!01:26
twist3dalso if the routers QoS is working correctly01:26
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mekgpactually, just typing ifconfig, not ipconfig; will give you current info on the connections that are active01:27
mekgptyping into a terminal that is....01:28
mekgpthat give you what u needed twist3d??01:29
satafterhwhy does ubuntu seem to be more propular than ubuntu, has gnome been around longer than kde so people are familar more with it?01:29
chavosatafterh, kde came first, ubuntu came before kubuntu01:30
mekgpyou mean ubuntu verses kubuntu?01:30
mekgpchavo...isnt there more applications and tweaks avail for KDE then Gnome??01:30
twist3dyer thats good enough for know cheers01:31
mekgp;) twist3d01:31
chavomekgp, sure01:31
mekgphey twist3d...can i make a suggestion for ya??  errr...to ya?? ;)01:32
twist3dkynaptic just hangs01:32
twist3d:(01:32
satafterhI know kubuntu came from ubuntu, I have only been using linux for about 4 month now and have tried unbuntu and kubuntu and I do not understand why people would choose gnome over kde, am i missing something??01:32
mekgp<------kubuntu fan01:32
twist3dgo for it01:32
chavosatafterh, It's a matter of choice. I prefer the power of KDE, some like the simplicity of Gnome01:32
mekgpdump the opera....use firefox01:32
chavognome is for those with a few less IQ points01:33
twist3dI would like to use opera01:33
mekgpme too chavo...i think its also easier to "jump" from windoze to linux using KDE01:33
mekgpok twist3d..if you insist! lol ;)01:33
twist3dif I could install anything that is :)01:34
chavowell I've been using Linux for a long time and was a long time Gnome user, but Gnome did a 180 degree turn from waht it once was01:34
mekgpcheck the opera website for some instructs...thats your best bet to guide you thru it01:34
twist3dit doesn't help wit the fundamental question01:34
twist3di.e. clcik this + installs....01:35
mekgp<-----------started at the FedoraCore2 level.....uphILL from there! LOL01:35
twist3don the plus side I have the most insane desktop I've ver seen!01:35
mekgpwelcome to linux twist3d... ;)01:35
twist3dthis drive will go in my file server tommorrow anyway01:35
twist3dthis is supposed to be the n00b friendly version as well :(01:36
mekgpfile 13?? ROFL01:36
satafterhsimplicity?? I do not see gnome being simplar than kde, I am just wondering if there is some underlying reason form a like of gnome over kde that I dont get, no big deal, I guess it does come down to some click in peoples heads that tells them theey like something, everyone to there own01:36
mekgpthats it satafterh...01:36
chavosatafterh, there are more KDE users than Gnome users.01:37
twist3dhow do I browse my HDD :(((((01:37
chavothere are more ubuntu users simply because it came out first. I predict that kubuntu will fly by it after breezy comes out01:37
satafterhreally? 01:37
mekgpi always thought it was the file manager ability of KDE/Kongueror that did it01:37
mekgptwist3d...use Konguer to browse the HDD01:38
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mekgpopen the directory sidebar from the window menu ...youll see the HD directory01:38
satafterhis there a way to video with people who are using msn01:39
twist3dopen the directory sidebar from the window menu01:39
twist3dwindow menu?01:40
mekgpcheck kaffiene satafterh...i think it can be tweaked to do that, not sure thou01:40
twist3dk menu thing yes?01:40
satafterhthat would be awesome01:40
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mekgpno...launch Kongueror in the Internet section under K menu, then click window01:40
mekgpsata, there are other IM programs avail however....use synaptic or kynaptic or adept to search them out01:41
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arnbheb01:42
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mekgpthat do it twist3d?? any luck?01:43
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twist3dno but thank you01:45
twist3dwhen I click on the .deb I saved on the desktop it just opens a lit of files01:45
twist3dararrara01:45
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chavotwist3d, sudo dpkg -i blah.deb01:46
twist3dthat did something but it didn't install01:47
twist3dI'm guesing it just unzipped it01:48
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twist3dawesome01:49
mekgpit work twist3d?01:52
twist3dno01:52
twist3dI have it all uninstalled and sat there01:52
mekgpppfpfpfftttt...ok, here goes follow closssssly01:52
chavotwist3d, just out of curiosity, what don't you like about Konqueror?01:52
twist3dAbout from the incgh wide icons?01:52
twist3dalso I'm used to opera01:52
mekgpu still have the .deb file for opera?01:52
twist3dyes01:52
chavotry right clicking them and changing the size?01:52
twist3dI have 3 versions of that file01:52
mekgpok...where's it located?01:53
spaceturtleWhen I hibernate/resume from the X server(Nvidia, Kubuntu 5.10RC), The screen is filled with garbage or simply doesn't turn on.  Hibernate/resume sometimes works if X is not running. Any ideas?01:53
chavoyou can change the default toolbar size, as well as the size in individual apps01:53
twist3d./home/twist3d/Desktop01:53
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mekgpok...open a terminal window ie: konsole01:54
chavoand if they are 3 inches then you are running 800x600 on a 32" screen01:54
mekgplol01:54
mekgpkonsole open twist3d?01:54
chavowhich is ok .... I guess?01:54
twist3dyes01:54
mekgpok...at the prompt:  sudo -i01:55
twist3dsudo =root right?01:55
mekgpyep...01:55
twist3dok01:56
mekgpnext type: cd /home/twist3d/desktop01:56
Meztwist3d, is that you pete01:56
twist3d yes01:56
twist3dnope01:56
twist3dsorry01:57
mekgpnext type: dpkg -i <insert package name in full>       hit enter01:57
mekgpfull= including .deb at the end ;)01:57
manolistaany have problem with kubuntu breezy + kde 3.5 + composite??01:58
twist3dno such file etc01:58
mekgpno file??  check your spelling and puncuation...01:58
chavomanolista, works great for me.01:58
mekgpuse the up arrow to scroll back to that command and check it...01:58
twist3das root I only have two files01:59
chavosudo -i will bring him to /root no?01:59
manolistachavo: puff, i have the same problems in two diferent instalations, the system freeze01:59
mekgp??  you didnt "cd" into the /home/twist3d/ directory?01:59
kinfoNo match for "you"01:59
chavomanolista, which card do you have?02:00
mekgpchavo...yes -i sudo's to root02:00
manolistagForce 402:00
mekgpu there twist3d?02:00
chavomanolista, using the nvidia drivers?02:00
twist3dyes02:00
twist3dI cant create the desktop part 02:01
twist3dno such file02:01
mekgpyou have two .deb files for opera "showing" on the desktop??02:01
twist3dtwo huge icons02:01
mekgp:D02:01
manolistachavo: yes02:01
chavocd /home/twist3d/Desktop02:01
mekgptype what chavo wrote at the command prompt...then do a "dir" to see whats listed02:02
manolistawhen I open a konqueror or kcontrol window the system freeze02:02
chavomanolista, hmm works great for me, I've got a 6600GT 02:02
twist3dyeah it was syntax02:02
mekgp?????02:02
mekgpyou mean your fingers did the walking???  fubared the command?? LOL  ...ppfftttt, sorry, couldnt resist02:03
twist3dd / D02:03
chavomanolista, I build my own KDE though, I'm not using kubuntu packages02:03
mekgpah HA! got to be exact....02:03
chavonot sure if that matters though02:03
twist3dlol come play with XP and I'll bury you :P02:03
mekgpi do...this laptop dual boots02:03
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mekgpXP&Kubuntu! ;)02:04
chavorunning XP on my laptop also02:04
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chavogonna put kubunut on when breezy comes out though02:04
chavo*kubuntu02:04
manolistachavo:  i use kubuntu packages02:05
mekgpusing breezy on here now.... only 3 issues so far: power mngmnt, ati graphics card, and locked hda102:05
chavoI've got a lot of OS's on my desktop02:05
twist3dswwet it can't execute the binary02:05
mekgpwhat else ya got?02:05
mekgptwist3d?  whats it telling u?02:05
twist3dcannot execute binary file02:05
mekgpstand by....02:06
chavoXP, this kubuntu install that started out as hoary, Vista beta, Suse 9.3 and Redhat 6.2 for old times sake02:06
mekgp<--------------heading to opera site02:06
chavoI've got 2 250G hard drives and a lot of freetime :)02:06
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mekgptwist3d:  Install instrucs for opera: http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=45602:06
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isaihi02:08
mekgptwist3d: link for correct dwnld: http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=27336&location=94&nothanks=yes&sub=marine02:08
mekgplol chavo...lucky u! :)02:08
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isaiI accidentily lost the main menu bar on konqueror; how do I get it back?02:08
chavoisai, ctrl-m02:08
isaithanks!02:09
chavoor should be in the right click menu -> show menubar02:09
mekgptwist3d, create a download folder in your home folder to put stuff, keep it off desktop...  /home/twist3d/downloads02:09
chavoyeah I like a nice clean desktop myself02:09
isaialso, I like having a tree menu of my filesystem on the left, how do I add that?02:09
chavono icons02:09
`NomadUsing Konversation, where could I get a list of all IRC servers like in other applications?02:10
mekgpwhich kubuntu ver u have isai??02:10
chavoisai, hit F9 and then click on the red folder icon02:10
mekgphit F2 or under File menu in Konversation Nomad02:10
chavoyou can save the view setting as a profile and then make a link to it in the menu02:10
twist3dmekgp - that last link opens a open with dialog...02:10
twist3dwhat do I open it with/02:11
mekgpno save to disk choice twist3d?02:11
twist3dnope02:11
isaicool, why isn't there an entry for that in the menu bar...02:11
chavoisai, it's there I just don't use the menubar. I have it hidden02:11
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mekgphmmm...well, go back to the download page and pick the correct version for re-dwnld02:12
chavoit's under Window -> Show Navigation Panel02:12
mekgpunless using breezy chavo...then its a button in the main toolbar02:12
chavomekgp, I have customized my toolbars02:13
mekgpisai will have to "show" the toolbar under settings then02:13
isaii am using breezy, I don't have a window menu...02:13
chavobenn building my own KDE for a while now also02:13
mekgpcorrect...click Settings>Toolbars>Main...should be button to the left of that bar to open directory02:13
mekgptwist3d, make sure that file your dwnlding goes into a folder under your named folder instead of desktop...02:14
mekgpthen just follow the instrucs from that first link k?02:15
mekgperrr...ok??02:15
mekgpthen your next headache will be to make a link to opera on the desktop! :D  yyeeeieeekkk02:15
jmghey all02:15
mekgp...cause it wont show up in the Internet menu under K menu!! :D02:16
mekgphiya jmg! ;)02:16
mekgpu still there twist3d?02:17
twist3dyep02:18
mekgpdownloading?02:18
twist3dnope I have a t102:18
mekgpwhwwooooott! you go!02:18
twist3dtrying to make it install? yep02:18
mekgpok...02:18
mekgpdelete the two off desktop if you haven't already....no more confusion needed! LOL02:19
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mekgpgot to run...good luck! ;)  boise ain02:20
mekgpboise ain't getting any closer! LOL02:20
twist3dcannot execute binary file02:20
twist3dfuck it02:20
mekgpwtf??02:20
twist3dto the letter mate02:20
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twist3dto the letter mate02:20
jmganyone having problems with keyboard layouts???02:21
twist3dand every combination thereof02:21
mekgplol...02:21
imnotmehi im having install problem02:21
jmgmy win key doesnt work02:21
imnotmestuck at 6%02:21
TokenBadis there a recommended ftpd program for kubuntu...prefer one with gui but don't have to have one02:21
TokenBadI was runing proftpd on ubuntu02:22
imnotmeretieving packages changes 02:22
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mekgptwist3d, you did pick the ubuntu version of opera in the list correct??02:23
TokenBadanyone?02:24
mekgpi think kftp is availl tokenbad...02:24
crimsunTokenBad: vsftpd is recommended02:24
TokenBadI think I tried vsftpd before on ubuntu02:24
mekgpor, just ftp thru Kongueror??02:24
TokenBadhad trouble with it02:24
TokenBadI am looking for ftpd program02:25
TokenBadnot a clent02:25
TokenBadclient even02:25
imnotmebase system installation error02:25
twist3dI hit the link you gave02:25
twist3dthe .deb I started with02:25
imnotmecan someone advise me??02:25
imnotmedoes kubuntu use same install as ubuntu?02:26
crimsunimnotme: essentially, yes02:26
mekgpkbear works....lukemftp works...02:26
imnotmewell its different this time02:26
imnotmei just burned kubuntu and it stops at 6%02:27
TokenBadin kubuntu is it inetd or xinetd?02:27
imnotmecheck /target/var/log/bootstrap.log02:27
imnotmecrimsun: strange because it installed with ubuntu breezy no problem02:28
mekgpphone...brb02:28
twist3dyay  new error subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 202:29
imnotmemaybe cd is burned bad. i used gnomebaker02:30
imnotmeis the installer portion base system the same?02:30
crimsunimnotme: the installer is virtually identical; the base system is identical02:31
imnotmeim installing kubuntu over a ubuntu. i formatted also02:32
crimsunor just install Ubuntu normally, then aptitude install kubuntu-desktop02:32
twist3dso why linux>windows?02:32
twist3dI am curious02:32
twist3dI learnt php faster than this02:32
chavolinux is different, it depends on the user and situation02:33
imnotmecrimsun: i might have to. but ive had a few minor gliches with ubuntu and kubuntu combined. i guess i could uninstall ubuntu after.02:34
twist3dseriously I have been trying for 2 fucking hours to install 1 program02:34
twist3dthis rocks02:34
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imnotmetwist3d: what program?02:35
twist3dopera02:35
twist3dalso anything02:35
imnotmein windows or here?02:35
twist3das root the directory doesn't exist02:35
twist3das normal user it won't install02:36
twist3d:thumbsup:02:36
imnotmethats not right I think02:36
twist3dno shit02:36
imnotmedid you try sudo of course?02:36
twist3dsudo -i dpkg -i opera_8.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb02:36
imnotmeyes02:36
twist3dcan't exexute02:37
imnotmelet me try it02:37
twist3dsu password fails02:37
crimsunit's not sudo -i02:37
twist3dsudo password works02:37
twist3dchrist02:37
twist3dwhat?02:37
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chavotwist3d, [20:02]  <chavo> twist3d, sudo dpkg -i blah.deb02:37
chavoalmost an hour ago02:37
twist3dmpk was saying -i02:38
crimsunsudo dpkg, not sudo -i dpkg02:38
Tm_T:/02:38
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chavohe was having you login to a root shell and then install02:38
twist3dcannot access archive: No such file or directory02:38
twist3dErrors were encountered while processing:02:38
twist3d opera_8.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.de02:38
imnotmewhats the kde cd burner called? gnome baker sucks02:38
twist3do hang on02:38
crimsunimnotme: k3b02:39
imnotmethanks02:39
Hobbseetwist3d: looks like there ought to be a b on the end of all that...02:39
TokenBadshit I guess I am going to have to go back to ubuntu02:39
HobbseeTokenBad: why?02:39
twist3dcut on copy/paste02:39
Hobbseeah right02:39
TokenBadcause it wants me to convert this info for normal inetd.conf xinetd.conf02:39
Hobbseewhy did you get that versoin of opera?02:39
TokenBadand I have no idea how02:40
twist3dI was linked to it here02:40
twist3dSetting up opera (8.50-20050916.5) ...02:40
Hobbseehmmm ok, i usually give out the static deb link, not the debian one02:40
twist3dgreat but it just returns to prompt02:40
twist3dis it installed?02:40
crimsunyes02:41
twist3dkynaptic says yes02:41
imnotmehttp://opera.com/download/?platform=linux02:41
jmgguys my windows key stopped working.... any ideas?02:42
imnotmeweb site has ubuntu versions02:42
Hobbseewindows key?02:42
imnotmefor breezy also02:42
imnotmetwist3d: did you try the web site02:42
twist3dwhere did it install to?02:42
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Hobbseetwist3d: http://downloads.planetmirror.com/pub/opera/linux/850/final/en/i386/static/opera-static_8.50-20050916.1-qt_en_i386.deb02:43
Hobbseei've found that works fine on breezy and hoary02:43
jmgHobbsee: between alt and ctrl, call it the tux key if you wish02:43
twist3dIt's installed apparently02:43
TokenBadin kubuntu where is the user managment?02:44
Hobbseethat's the static deb for it, which is the one originally recommended one on ubuntuforums02:44
jmgHobbsee: i upgraded to 3.5b1 and then downgraded though something is bung02:44
twist3dNow I'm trying to find it..02:44
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Hobbseetwist3d: kappfinder02:44
Hobbseejmg: does kde even use the windows key, or do you have to select windows through kpersonaliser?02:45
jmgHobbsee: im defining my own shortcuts02:45
jmgHobbsee: doesnt recognise win02:45
jmgHobbsee: or function (toshiba key)02:45
Hobbseewhich function toshiba keys have you tried?02:45
jmgthe function modifier02:46
jmgnot recognised02:46
Hobbseethere's a fnfxd package which you can grab which should work for the function keys02:46
twist3dlol - now I'm looking for kappfinder02:46
Hobbseeshould already be installed02:46
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Hobbseeuse it from the run command twist3d 02:46
jmgive got that 02:46
jmgwindows key just wont work02:46
twist3dcheers02:47
Hobbseeas in, windows key doesnt pop up the kmenu?02:47
jmgtosh keys work but id like to use Fn for other stuff02:47
Hobbseefor some reason it does, no idea why02:47
jmgas in, windows key doesnt generate an event02:47
jmgpointing at xkb corruption02:47
jmgor similar02:47
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Hobbseeyeah, for some silly reason it doesnt02:47
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Hobbseewindows r might though02:47
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jmgyeah because under linux win is super or meta02:48
jmgmeaning its a modifier and only sends an event combined with a char02:48
jmgbut its sending r without modifier02:48
twist3dsweet thanks hobbsee02:48
Hobbsee*nods* that makes vague sense lol02:48
Hobbseeno problems twist3d 02:48
jmgsometimes to make the k menu popup for instance you map win to f1302:49
Hobbseei'm guessing the place you fix this stuff is in keyboard shortcuts in kcontrol02:50
Hobbseeand i'd originally thought you were refering to your windows product key or something, which made me wonder why you were asking here :P02:51
imnotmecrimsun: i reburned with k3b works. im at 36% installed02:51
imnotmeseems gnome baker did not burn cd02:52
Hobbseeimnotme: what's this for? kubuntu breezy rc?02:52
imnotmekubuntu breezy02:52
imnotmerc yes02:52
Hobbseefun02:52
imnotmeyipee!02:53
TokenBadok help02:53
Hobbseethe installer works nicely, and is more obvious than the hoary one :)02:53
TokenBadI have xinetd02:53
TokenBadbut its not working02:53
imnotmei dont know but kde apps just work better.02:53
TokenBadand it seems empty02:53
TokenBadbut seems I have both xinetd02:53
TokenBadand inetd02:53
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twist3dsomeone give me somethng interesting to do with linux02:58
Hobbseewrite us a program that will make us an adept updater that sits in the system tray :P02:58
TokenBadok how come proftpd isn't working on kubuntu but worked no problem on ubuntu?02:59
MezTokenBad, what problem you having with it02:59
Mezaka how is it " not working"02:59
TokenBadwell it installed02:59
TokenBadand put itself into inetd03:00
TokenBadI edited the conf file03:00
TokenBadthen restarted inetd03:00
TokenBadtry to ftp into it and it gets connection refused03:00
Mezare you running a firewall at all03:00
imnotmeanybody know if realplayer install is fixed?03:00
Mezand is the process showing in the process list03:00
TokenBadit didn't update03:00
crimsunI thought both proftpd and vsftpd run as stand-alone, not through [x] inetd03:00
TokenBadI just tried to ftp in on the default03:00
TokenBadand it connected03:01
Hobbseeimnotme: out of curiousity, why do you want realplayer?03:01
TokenBadcrimsun, I have always ran it through inetd03:01
Mezthen maybe a problem with your inetd not spawning the process correctly03:01
Mezwhy not run as a daemon03:01
imnotmeHobbsee: for all of BBC03:01
TokenBadwhats correct way to restart inetd03:01
imnotmelike tons of stations03:01
TokenBadmaybe I did it wrong03:01
Hobbseeah right, that makes sense03:01
imnotmeit uses an integrated player only works so03:02
Flying_EagleTokenBad, sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart03:02
imnotmethe ubuntu install pointed to an outdated version though03:02
Flying_Eagleor xinetd if you use this03:02
Mezcrimsun, you gonna be at UBZ03:02
imnotmeim just taking it from real.com03:02
jmgHobbsee: thats what im trying03:03
jmgdoesnt work, though03:03
TokenBadwell I did restart it wrong03:03
TokenBadbut still not updating03:03
Meztokenbad .... run it as a daemon03:04
imnotmeim off to blow up shit on bzflag03:04
imnotmebyo03:04
Mezrunning it through inetd is just wasting resources really.... espescially if you use it a lot03:04
TokenBadMez, I tried that once and had alot of trouble03:04
crimsunMez: no03:04
Mezor if you have more than one connection at once03:04
MezTokenBad, trouble?03:05
hippiewhen is out kde 3.5bet1 for amd64?03:05
`NomadOn Breezy, I get this trying to configure ksmoothdock.    "configure: error: Can't find X includes."03:05
TokenBadyeah couldn't get it set up for some reason03:06
`NomadWhat package do I need?03:06
crimsunlibx11-dev03:06
Hobbseehippie: ask Riddell, he would know the answer to that03:06
Mezcrimsun, I'm working along the principle of inetd forking a new copy of it, rather than the daemon just forking a new copy of itself... hence no having to load it into memory03:06
crimsunMez: (missing context)03:07
MezNomad, you need the package crumsun said, but file a bug to get the depends fixed03:07
Mezcrimsun: never mind me, I'm rambling on03:07
`Nomadcrimsun: Nope, still have teh same error, 5hough I'm sure I'll need your suggeste package too :)03:08
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`NomadMez: Woof.. I wouldn<t even knwo where to start describing it03:08
stodgeIs there a package for Microsoft's core fonts?03:08
stodgeAnd is there a KDE app for managing the fstab?03:09
MezNomad, just say a package wont install, and give the error03:09
Hobbseestodge: yes, kwrite03:09
hippieRiddell: when is out kde 3.5beta1 for amd64?03:09
stodge:P03:09
Hobbseestodge: and do you have the multiverse reps enabled?03:09
Mezhippie, as soon as someone builds it03:09
stodgeNot sure hobbsee03:10
stodgeStil learning how to use kubuntu/ubuntu :)03:10
Hobbseeok, try, in a console "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts03:10
hippieMez: i not know as build kde 3.5beta103:10
Mez:P03:11
`NomadHobbsee: I tried that earlier, no installation candidate03:11
stodgePackage msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package03:11
Mezthen we wait03:11
Hobbseeah ok, i thought it was there in breezy, in multiverse03:11
Hobbseestodge: download it from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/msttcorefonts03:11
`Nomadhum... I do not have mul.tiverse. oops03:11
stodgeok03:11
Mezhmm03:12
Hobbseehttp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/msttcorefonts_1.2_all.deb03:12
Hobbseein fact03:12
MezI cant seem to enable bluetooth on windows03:12
Mezgrr03:12
Riddellhippie: when dapper is open03:13
HobbseeRiddell: why only when dapper is open?03:13
hippieRiddell: ok, thanks03:14
stodgeWhat do I configure to display the desktop icons (Home, etc)03:14
Hobbseedid you install the deb?03:15
crimsunHobbsee: we're 4 days away from release.03:15
Hobbseetrue, and i suppose the focus is on that03:15
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RiddellHobbsee: until then breezy is priority03:15
soulslayer87Hello03:15
soulslayer87Excuse me03:15
Hobbseefair enough03:15
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soulslayer87I need some help here03:16
Hobbseesoulslayer87: dont ask to ask, just ask03:16
soulslayer87please...03:16
Hobbseesoulslayer87: we dont bite03:16
Hobbseesoulslayer87: much...03:16
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soulslayer87Im downloading righy Know the last kubuntu03:16
soulslayer87Im really dont know how to use it or install it03:17
soulslayer87excuse for my english03:17
stodgeIs there a wiki for kubuntu?03:17
stodgeLooking for the multiverse address03:17
stodgeOops found the wiki03:17
soulslayer87but in kubuntu-es nobody answer03:17
soulslayer87hi??03:18
soulslayer87somebody??03:18
crimsunboot from the CD and follow the prompts03:18
soulslayer87ohhh i see03:20
soulslayer87ill comunicate later... thank you03:21
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`NomadAre the backport addresses supposed to work from a default install?03:27
twist3dman why is this terminal thing so fucking picky03:27
Hobbseetwist3d: language03:28
HobbseeNomad: in breezy?03:29
TokenBadis the new version of kubuntu still going to be out on the 13th?03:29
`NomadHobbsee:  yes, in Breezy03:31
`NomadI just added multiverse, nice positive difference03:31
Hobbseebackports arent open yet, until the acutal release03:31
Hobbseedefinetly03:31
TokenBadquestion03:31
TokenBadI installed electricsheep screensaver03:31
TokenBadbut it don't show up in screensavers03:32
TokenBadis there a way to put it there?03:32
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HobbseeTokenBad: does it need xscreensavers and kscreensaver-xscreensaver installed?03:34
TokenBadI don't know03:35
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TokenBadshould I try that?03:36
Hobbseeyeah03:36
TokenBadok how should I go about that?03:36
Hobbseerss-glx screensavers depend on them, so that one might too03:36
Hobbseein adept, do a search for screensaver03:36
TokenBadkscreensaver-xsavers - KDE hooks for standard xscreensavers03:37
TokenBadxscreensaver - Automatic screensaver for X03:37
TokenBadthose right?03:37
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Hobbseeyep03:38
Hobbseethat's them03:38
Hobbseemaybe the no-gnome xscreensaver one as well, i dont remember03:39
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TokenBadI got error on the xscreensaver03:43
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Hobbseewhat error?03:46
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hippiewhat colors is for default in kubuntu?03:54
Hobbseeum...blue03:54
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Hobbseeyeah blue03:55
logikalHi ho03:55
cafuego_Sorry for the botspam, I just closed a security hole.03:55
Hobbseeah good03:55
Hobbseewhat, so people cant modify it at random?03:55
Hobbseehi logikal :)03:55
cafuego_That's a feature ;-)03:55
logikalhi hobbsee03:55
Hobbseelol i know03:55
logikalwhat's up03:55
Hobbseea useful one03:55
cafuego_Hobbsee: no, anyone could make it join any channel (without a way to get him back off).03:55
Hobbseesitting here procrastinating, as usual :P03:56
logikalyou at work?03:56
Hobbseeah great03:56
logikalwhat time is it there?03:56
Hobbseenoon03:56
Hobbseemonday03:56
cafuego_lunchtime!03:56
logikalsee it's 10 sunday here03:56
logikalso you are at work?03:56
Hobbseelol03:56
Hobbseeno03:56
Hobbseesupposedly studying at home03:56
logikalyou go to school?03:56
Hobbseeyes, well, only for a few more exams03:57
Hobbseegraduating this year03:57
logikalcollege, or high school?03:57
Hobbseehigh school03:57
logikaloh lol, you're that young?03:57
logikalyou gave the impression of being atleast 25 to me..03:57
TokenBadtrying to overwrite `/usr/share/xscreensaver/config/electricsheep.xml', which is also in package electricsheep03:58
TokenBadthat03:58
logikalI need to make my desktop look better03:58
logikalI am only 19 tho, Hobbsee 03:58
Hobbseelol ty, everyone says that03:59
Tm_T:/03:59
HobbseeTokenBad: uninstall electric sheep first?03:59
logikalyou got a pic?03:59
Hobbseeyou wont have to download it again03:59
TokenBadI tried that03:59
TokenBadgot an error then03:59
logikalMine is here... www.myspace.com/logikal4203:59
Hobbseewhat error then?03:59
TokenBadits 3 lines long04:00
TokenBadwant it here or where?04:00
Hobbseehere04:00
TokenBadYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:04:00
TokenBadThe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:00
TokenBad  kscreensaver-xsavers: Depends: xscreensaver but it is not going to be installed04:00
Hobbseeit's hardly busy, and if it's 3 lines..04:00
TokenBadwhich I did that04:00
TokenBadand it gave error04:00
TokenBadwhich is the same as the first error04:01
TokenBadabout trying to overwrite the electricsheep file04:01
Hobbseehmmm...get rid of all 3, then try installing them starting with xscreensaver?04:01
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TokenBadif it will let me get rid of any of the 3 yet04:07
cynewho can recommend desktop plugins/addons which can make my desktop look really nice04:07
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phoenixbyrdsuperkaramba?04:08
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Hobbseeisnt there some sort of force remove lol...or is that not a great idea04:08
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TokenBadok I removed the programs04:08
TokenBadinstalled xscreensaver04:09
Hobbseeyep, no errors?04:09
TokenBadand the kscreensaver04:09
`Nomad411I like ksmoothdock, but would liek to hear suggestions for replacements04:09
TokenBadgot to electricsheep04:09
TokenBadand get errors04:09
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Hobbseewhat errors for electric sheep?04:09
cyneyes that's the one phoenixbyrd 04:09
TokenBadsame as before04:09
cynethanks04:09
TokenBadabout overwriting that file04:09
Hobbseehmmm...force it to install?04:10
TokenBadwas just about to ask that04:10
TokenBadheheh04:10
logikalhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2931704:10
logikalHobbsee, How do I install those?04:10
Hobbseewhat were you wanting to install from there?04:12
`Nomad411I have an app that listed all sorts of Internet radios, but can<t remember the name now :(  Anyone?04:12
`Nomad411Ico was a green triangle on it<s side04:12
logikalwell04:12
logikalthe things04:12
logikal have packaged some stuff from kde-apps and kde-look for debian unstable.04:12
logikal04:12
logikal http://mirror.pusling.com/04:12
logikal http://mirror.pusling.com/debian/unstable04:12
logikal04:12
logikal Or just simply add the following line(s) to your sources.list:04:12
logikal04:12
logikal deb http://mirror.pusling.com/debian/unstable ./04:12
logikal deb-src http://mirror.pusling.com/debian/unstable ./04:12
logikalsorry for flood04:13
logikalbut I want to install the deb http://..........04:13
HobbseeNomad: juk, maybe?  google is likely to tell you04:13
TokenBadHobbsee, whats the force command again04:13
Hobbseeyou can add to your sources list, or just grab the deb from the site04:13
Hobbseeum... -f?04:13
Hobbseecheck --help04:13
logikalwhich way would you do it hobsee?04:13
Hobbseehttp://mirror.pusling.com/debian/unstable/04:14
Hobbseei'd grab the deb from there, and install it manually04:14
Hobbseeif you start adding debian unstable stuff to your reps, and then update & upgrade off that...well it's known to cause trouble04:14
logikalhow do i install a .deb package04:17
Hobbseecd to directory04:17
Hobbseesudo dpkg -i filename(hit tab)04:17
Hobbseein a console04:17
TokenBadHobbsee, I did apt-get --force-yes install electricsheep and it still gives error04:20
logikalcd to the folder where the .deb is at?04:20
Hobbseewhere did you download the deb to?04:21
Hobbseeugh really?  that's a pain04:21
logikalI need a 64 version04:21
Hobbseethere wasnt one there?04:22
logikaldpkg: error processing fraqtive_0.3.1-1_i386.deb (--install):04:22
logikal package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)04:22
logikalhttp://mirror.pusling.com/debian/unstable/04:22
logikalgo there and look at all the thingys04:22
Hobbseeah...04:23
Hobbseei thought you were on i38604:24
logikalno lol 64 bit04:24
logikal:(04:26
Hobbseei've got no idea then04:26
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user0so installing kubuntu from live cd will completely destroy my previous distribution installation right?05:00
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narghrm... did w32codecs change repositories? I change seem to find it in multiverse.05:21
Hobbseeyeah, they took it out05:23
Hobbseedebian.video.free.fr/05:23
Hobbseeapparently has it05:23
nargbut is the compiled for the right dependancy set for kubuntu?05:23
Hobbseehttp://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb05:24
Hobbseealso seems to work, which is the one i've got05:24
nargnod05:24
nargI'll just use that ;)05:24
Hobbseethink so, for the second one at least05:24
Hobbsee:)05:24
nargdang legal problems making it being in real repos iffy.05:24
Hobbseeit's got java there as well, kinda useful05:24
Hobbseeyeah, exactly05:24
nargisnt java in kubuntu already?05:25
propagandhihowdy guyss05:26
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Hobbseehi propagandhi05:26
satafterhis where a way to add other cities to kweather05:27
propagandhidoes anyone know how to get metabar working in kde05:27
Hobbseemetabar?05:28
propagandhiyeah05:28
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TokenBadis there a way to reload kde without rebooting?06:19
BlankBfrom the login screen do Ctrl-Alt-Backspace06:20
TokenBadI don't want to go that far out06:20
TokenBadI just want to reload the menu's06:20
BlankBahh.06:20
BlankBdunno.06:20
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TokenBadnow if I can figure out why movies won't play06:25
BlankBwhat is wrong?06:30
inc|freakygood morning ;D06:31
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inc|freakydamn, gotta go to school soon :\06:31
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_nyn_hi. i'm looking for a dcop call to reparse ~/[...] /kdeglobals, so as to be able to change keyboard shortcuts via script. anyone knows what takes care of that? kwin? kded? kdesktop? 06:42
logikalTokenBad, ctrl+alt+backspace is a quick log out/log in06:43
_nyn_i actually need to do it via script, without logging out...06:43
jesusfishuh, is KDE 3.4.3 supposed to replace my 3.5 beta1 packages?06:44
_nyn_enable/disable certain shortcuts06:44
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The_Voxjesusfish: no, it shouldn't, I don't think06:49
jesusfishThe_Vox: hmmm....it appears as though it is06:53
The_Voxjesusfish: I'm noticing that some parts of my kde have gone to 3.4.3 too, while some are still 3.4.9106:54
jesusfishThe_Vox: ya06:55
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jesusfishI caught my upgrade before it installed06:58
The_VoxI didn't06:58
The_Vox:/06:58
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logikalguys07:08
logikalI have a quick question07:08
logikalI want to make my volume hot key and mute key on my keyboard work, they worked on gnome07:08
logikalhow do i make them work herE07:08
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bjvim not seeing an option for Kubuntu disks in the ShipIt program?07:13
bjvwhile i have nothing against gnome, but the default setup for the 5.04 live disks was quite scary. :o07:13
Kamping_Kaiserbjv: only Ubuntu ships printed afaik07:14
bjvi suppose Ubuntu is so brown and alien on purpose.07:14
bjvto ship a cleaner, more generic interface would kind of be counter productive.07:15
Kamping_Kaiserwhats wrong with ubuntu?07:15
Kamping_Kaiser*gnome07:15
bjvi just cant handle it!07:16
bjvfirst thing i do it move the desktop bar to the bottom, and change the background to a rational color. :\07:16
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Kamping_Kaiserlol07:17
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DShepherdbjv: ubuntu is kool07:18
bjvyes i ordered some pressed cd07:18
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DShepherdbjv: nothing wrong with it at all07:18
kkathmanEvening all :)07:19
Hobbseeafternoon kkathman :)07:19
Kamping_Kaiserhi :)07:19
bjvDShepherd:you dont find the default gnome look to be avant-garde at all?07:19
bjv*ubuntu07:19
Hobbseeavant-garde?07:20
DShepherdbjv: brown is not an offensive colour. Well to most countries it isnt07:20
bjvDShepherd: in the context of the greens, blues, blacks and whites im used to. :P07:20
bjvbrown requires a mix of all RGB07:20
bjvit's funky/ :P07:21
Kamping_Kaiserthink outside the RGB you live in ;)07:21
DShepherdbjv: just like human beings . We mix everyday too07:21
Hobbseewhich is precisely why we should have a bright yellow desktop :P07:21
Kamping_Kaiserlol07:21
Hobbseehehehe07:21
bjvyeah, well id wrather my X environment not feel human. :P07:22
bjv*-w07:22
Hobbseekubuntu 6.04 in bright yellow you think?  or orange?  blue's surely getting old :P07:22
DShepherdbjv: ok What ever makes your ubuntu experience less brown07:22
chavoHobbsee, purple07:24
Hobbseeooh purple!07:24
Hobbseenow that'd be fun!07:24
bjvgentoo already stole purple.07:24
Hobbseeso?07:24
Hobbseeless desktops are purple than blue07:25
chavoyeah but no one uses gentoo :P07:25
Hobbseewe could just have a different shade of purple07:25
Hobbseelol07:25
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kkathmanoops sorry had to step out a moment07:28
kkathmanHey there Hobbsee :)07:28
kkathmanwhats new?07:29
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ccoxhello07:31
ccoxso this is the first time trying kubuntu07:31
Brondomanhello...quick question:  Was madwifi removed from the current RC release in kubuntu and Ubuntu?  It appears to be missing (find /lib/modules | grep ath) shows the modules are gone....07:31
ccoxmust say it is very different than normal ubuntu! lol07:31
ccoxhas some advantages07:31
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fangoriouscan amarok be made to work with hotkeys so I can use my keyboard buttons?07:32
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joeyttbdear all07:33
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kkathmanccox: Its basically ubuntu with KDE07:33
joeyttbi have problem when copmpile a program07:33
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ccoxya ... but lots of changes to most kde in other distros07:33
joeyttbgcc error in kubuntu breezy07:33
ccoxthe network manager07:33
kkathmanjoeyttb: what kinds of issues07:33
chavohello kkathman :)07:33
kkathmanhey chavo!! how are you?07:34
ccoxthe settings, the user account settings07:34
joeyttbi have installed gcc-4.o07:34
ccoxall really cool07:34
joeyttbi have installed gcc-4.007:34
chavogood and you?07:34
joeyttbchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables07:34
LaschWIs there a specific reason why there is no kdenetwork of kde3.5beta1 on kubuntu's download site? For Suse there are kdenetwork rpms from kde.07:34
Hobbseekkathman: still playing around with everything07:35
kkathmanchavo: I am well, eagerly awating the Thursday release :)07:35
chavojoeyttb, how did you install gcc -> did you install build-essential?07:36
Hobbseedefinetly true07:36
kkathmanHobbsee: everything doing ok?07:36
Brondomanhas madwifi (atheros drivers) been removed from (K)ubuntu ?07:36
chavoyeah, I'm hoping the servers aren't to hammered07:36
joeyttb <chavo> joeyttb, how did you install gcc -> did you install build-essential? yup07:36
chavook07:36
chavowhat are you trying to compile?07:36
joeyttbkiptablesmanager07:37
joeyttbalso another program07:37
Brondomananyone know if madwifi has been removed from kubuntu RC release?07:37
joeyttball program that i tried to compile have same problem07:37
chavodid you install g++07:37
joeyttbyup07:37
chavohmm, odd07:38
fangoriousis there a kde equivalent of gnome-keybinding-properites?07:38
kkathmanjoeyttb: When I got the things for compilation there were several I had to get, build-essential as chavo said, but also the libglib libraries too, and g++07:38
ccoxwant to know that too .. have multimedia keys I want to get working07:38
kkathmanjoeyttb: what about the libglib libs?07:38
chavofangorious, Look at Regional & Accessibility  ->  Keyboard Shortcuts07:39
joeyttbok i will check07:39
chavoyou can also try khotkeys07:39
Brondomanman, I'm getting the same response I got in Ubuntu....no answer :-(07:39
kkathmanthere may be newer ones joeyttb , but I did libglib2.0-dev and libgtk2.0-dev07:39
chavokhotkeys will let you use mouse gestures and in 3.5 allows voice control07:39
kkathmanprobably newers ones for breezy tho07:39
chavoalong with keyboard shortcuts07:40
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chavoBrondoman, sorry I have no idea about madwifi07:40
BrondomanDoes annyone know if madwifi was removed from the current RC release?  The drivers are missing in /lib/modules07:40
konfuzedhey has anyone here used asterisk on kubuntu07:40
fangoriouschavo, thanks for the tip07:40
ccoxis khotkeys installed by default?07:41
konfuzedI winder about the hardware support and if there has been any troubles07:41
chavoccox, yes look in Regional & Accesibility07:41
fangoriousccox: i don't see it in an apt-cache search, i'm just installing kubuntu-desktop07:41
BrondomanThanks -- though noone was seeing my messages...thanks for the reply07:41
kkathmanchavo: can you think of a reason why my media links just quick working?  I have several computers on my network, each with a media link in the media directory, and for some reason they will just hang and I have to reboot07:41
chavoccox, you have to turn it on07:41
ccoxwhat they have added to stock KDE is amazing! I think I am liking better than ubuntu07:42
kkathmanchavo: I'll go to a konsole, cd to the media directory, then do a simple ls -l and it hangs07:42
konfuzedBrondoman: Anytime dude ;^)07:42
ccoxmust thank the kubuntu developers07:42
chavokkathman, are they samba shares?07:42
kkathmanyep07:43
konfuzeddoes any do telephony with thier kubuntu 07:43
chavosmbd takes up a lot of CPU if I browse this computer from my other ones and I have to kill it07:43
chavostill works though07:43
kkathmanhmmm mine seems to work after I reboot07:44
chavoso I'm hoping that the update fixes it07:44
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kkathmanbut its typically my Win box that gets lost...I think tis because I reboot it sometimes07:44
joeyttbthank you kkathman and chavo for your respon :D07:44
joeyttbit's work now07:44
fangoriouskkathman, are both ends running linux?07:44
kkathmangreat joeyttb !07:44
chavoanytime07:44
kkathmanfangorious: I have three winboxes and three linux boxes on the network07:45
kkathmanI think its because I rebooted the Win box07:45
kkathmanthe linux boxes all come up fine07:45
fangoriouskkathman, which platform is serving, and which is browsing?07:46
kkathmanfangorious: I am on my main Linux box, and trying to get to my Winbox07:46
fangoriouskkathman, have you looked at putting SFU 3.5 on your Windows machines? It includes what is supposed to be a rather robust nfs server/client07:47
kkathmanI just tried a simple sudo mount -a && mount and it didnt resolve it, but if I reboot my linux box it will work Im sure07:47
fangoriousprobably performs better than samba on linux07:47
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kkathmanfangorious: I really havent, I guess I took th easy way out :)07:47
kkathmanbrb07:48
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kkathmanbacl07:52
kkathmanback07:52
kkathmansorry I just rebooted07:52
kkathmanyep it works fine now07:52
kkathmanI think rebooting my winbox messed up the Samba authentication.07:53
kkathmanbut I havent figured this out07:53
kkathmanI just suspect07:53
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kkathmanchavo:  How are you liking breezy?07:56
kkathmanand Hobbsee, are you experiencing any issues?07:57
chavoso far so good, I've been building my own kde for a while now anyway07:57
chavoso I always have that up to date07:57
kkathmanchavo: Ahh well you are one of the ones with that superior talent!07:57
chavoit's really easy07:57
kkathmanmaybe you should market your chavo-KDE :)07:57
kkathmancall it CKDE07:58
kkathmanhehe07:58
chavobut I am making a style and windeco, slowly but surely07:58
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ilba7rhow can i release the sound device from a process that has been killed but is reported that is still using it07:59
fangoriouschavo: guess i didn't look long enough, in amarok, Settings->Global Shortcuts lets me reassign the keys, and the keybord commands are working now07:59
mzelemHello, anyone know how to make bluetooth keyboard/mouse work in kubuntu?07:59
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Hobbseesorry kkathman, was reading something else.  still got the rebooting problem, but no other problems, and i havent really got a clue how to fix teh rebooting problem08:00
Hobbseeie screen goes black after it goes thru the shutting down stages, but the HD is still spinning and the computer light is still on08:01
kkathmanHobbsee: odd, that sounds like it might be linked to like an APC or something08:01
Hobbseean APC?  what's that?08:02
Hobbseeoh, as in acpi?08:02
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kernomanI see the features of kubuntu include a simplified konq - does this mean theres no option to load profiles?08:03
kkathmanHobbsee: yes, because usually things like that seem to revolve around that subsystem08:03
kkathmankernoman: I thing there are some reports of that, yes08:03
kernomanis there any plans to give us that back or let us decide if we want to load profiles?08:04
kkathmanIm not sure to be honest08:04
kkathmanyou probably should at least log a request and maybe a bug report08:04
kernomanI will wait till breezy goes live, if its still a problem then I will raise it08:07
kkathmanwell if you raise it now, it might get attention before it goes live tho08:08
kkathmankernoman: do you just want to use it as a file manager?08:08
kernomanyup08:08
kkathmanor do you use it as a browser also08:08
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kernomanboth sometimes, i really dont understand why they have tried to dumb it down08:08
kkathmanIm not sure either, except there are several Linux File managers out there08:09
aftertafmorning all....08:09
kkathmanbut I dont know if the "dumbing down" was for just breezy or for Konq in general08:09
aftertafnice to see the kubuntu boot splash working and doing its stuff :)08:09
kernomantrue it maybe the konq devs that have done it, if so bad move on their part08:10
kkathmanI dont know why they'd do that08:11
kernomanme either08:11
chavokernoman, they aren't removing profiles08:11
kernomanso its kubuntu devs, so its a bug or kubuntu devs have removed it?08:12
kkathmankernoman: You might check this out for alternatives:  http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/23/2226202&tid=13&tid=4908:12
chavokernoman, I have no idea I run my own KDE build08:12
kkathmanof course theres no guarantees under breezy I reckon08:12
kkathmankernoman: didnt you say that they basically removed the options to split left/right?08:13
kernomanyup plus no window in the menu or option to load profile08:14
chavooh that's why someone couldn't find the Window menu earlier08:15
chavomight as well just run gnome if you dumb it down too much08:15
kernomanexactly, at the moment nautils is looking a better alternative to the current konq, shame cause i loved konq :(08:16
kkathmanchavo: yah, but there are other file manager alternatives if breezy supports them08:16
kernomanshouldnt need alternatives when KDE ships a perfectly good filemanager08:17
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kkathmanchavo: Im a little concerned that there are some compromises that the developers did, which in turn forced them to remove the stuff in Konq08:17
chavokkathman, well I'll just have to start my own distro now :)08:18
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kkathmanchavo:  I will put my name on the new CUBUNTU :)08:19
chavolol08:19
aftertaftrue that konq has lost that stuff... you guys got me to look. :(08:19
kkathmansorry I meant the new CUBUNTU mailing list08:19
aftertafmaybe assk Riddell ??08:19
kkathmanyah Riddell would know08:19
chavothey took out profiles?08:20
kkathmanbut I think you guyz should log an error report08:20
kernomanjust tried krusader....not for me08:20
aftertafcos before we all use nautilus *shudder*, we need to know what & why....08:20
aftertaf*reshudder*08:20
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_sparkhi can anyone help me with ltsp? I followed the instructions in the wiki page. I used all the config files generated by ltsp. xmdcp and tftp are not running08:21
kernomannautilus has the edge on krusader for me08:21
CaiN_SAurg08:21
aftertafnever used krusader08:21
CaiN_SAwhy the hell does kdm08:21
CaiN_SAneed kubuntu default settings08:21
CaiN_SAomw08:21
aftertafCaiN_SA:  wat do you mean?      wth regard to themes?08:22
CaiN_SAcos it changes all my themes every time it gets upgraded08:22
aftertafand you cant use the user list with any other than the std theme either. I filed a boog for that one08:22
CaiN_SAaftertaf, kdm depends on kubuntu-default-settings, now everytime i update my system the themes and kicker bars etc change08:22
kkathmankernoman: what didnt you like about the Krusader?08:23
aftertafCaiN_SA:  kicker bars too? argh. !!!!!!     just the kdm theme for me.08:23
chavoCaiN_SA, that sucks08:23
kernomani like my icon previews n stuff, krusader reminds me of SID on the amiga....08:23
aftertafthere is suckiness to be found in that, yeah08:23
CaiN_SAaftertaf, pvt plz08:23
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paul_how sould I set /etc/apt/sources.list ?08:24
kkathmanSeriously, you guys need to send a bug report or complaint so that there is a chance we'll get that fixed08:24
kernomanamiga rocked!, i gotta go now get my son ready for school - bye all08:24
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kkathmanpaul_: you might try sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:24
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kkathmanpaul_: But back up your current one first08:25
aftertaf!tell paul_ about repos08:25
paul_The question is what to write in this file.08:25
kkathmanpaul_: for breezy?08:25
paul_what is breezy ?08:26
aftertafpaul_:  in 3 days, the latest stable version of (k)ubuntu08:26
paul_ok, for this info !08:27
kkathmanpaul_:  go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?highlight=%28breezy%29%7C%28upgrade%2908:27
kkathmanif you are upgrading to breezy08:28
_nyn_from a kde section at freedesktop.org:08:29
_nyn_"If we wanted to update them in running programs we could send out a global DCOP message that the default shortcuts have been changed. The kde library would capture the message and updates its shortcuts against the kdeglobals file. Very easy."08:29
_nyn_anyone knows how to do that?08:29
_nyn_which dcop call?08:29
_nyn_tried many of them, and no one works08:29
_nyn_i was expecting it to be "reparseConfiguration", but no08:30
kkathmanI have no clue on that :)08:30
_nyn_from a kde site:08:30
_nyn_"Since changes to .../share/config/kdeglobals do not trigger an automatic ksycoca update you need to force an update manually. To force an update of the ksycoca database touch the file .../share/services/update_ksycoca."08:30
_nyn_didn't work either...08:30
_nyn_:(08:30
_nyn_i'm totally out of clues now...08:31
TokenBadkkathman, that link posted seems to be for ubuntu..not kubuntu08:31
TokenBador does it matter08:31
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kkathmanTokenBad: Uhm...doesnt really matter08:34
kkathmanrepos should be for ubuntu08:35
kkathmankubuntu is merely ubuntu with KDE basically08:35
kkathmanyou use the same repos, or should08:35
logikalkubuntu = ubuntu with KDE08:35
kkathmanright08:35
logikalyes, you use the same repos08:35
logikalif someone asks which os I have, I say Ubuntu08:35
TokenBadstupid electricsheep08:36
logikalKDE Is just a desktop enviornment08:36
TokenBadso many problems with it08:36
aftertafubuntu isnt gnome... ts a dstro08:36
aftertafwhich has gnome by default.08:37
logikalbasically what i just said08:37
TokenBadubuntu comes with electricsheep08:37
aftertaf:)08:37
TokenBadbut an older version08:37
logikal:)08:37
TokenBadand if you try to update it08:37
TokenBadit errors08:37
aftertaf!info electricsheep08:37
aftertafTokenBad:  file a bug.....08:37
logikalubotu tell TokenBad about electricsheep08:37
aftertaf!electricsheep08:38
=== TokenBad kicks electricsheep
logikal!electricsheep08:38
aftertafno happen ubotu....08:38
aftertaf!!!08:38
ubotuit has been said that ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me08:38
logikalubotu dont be a homo.08:38
ubotulogikal: I give up, what is it?08:38
aftertaf!wft08:38
aftertaf!wtf08:38
aftertafwhat is it sposed to be anyway?08:39
kkathmanhmm08:39
TokenBadso you guys know about the problem with it?08:39
aftertafelecsheep.08:39
TokenBadscreensaver08:39
aftertafoki.........08:39
aftertafi see...08:39
TokenBadtried to update it08:39
aftertafapart, or part of xscreensaver?08:39
kkathmansorry, I dont use it so it make no diff08:39
TokenBadand it will not overwrite the file that comes with ubuntu08:39
aftertafTokenBad:  what is the error?08:39
TokenBadtrying to overwrite `/usr/share/xscreensaver/config/electricsheep.xml', which is also in package xscreensaver08:39
aftertafyou can use dpkg -i --force-overwrite??08:40
aftertafthere u go.08:40
TokenBadhaven't tried the overwrite08:40
aftertafuse dpkg -i --force ;)08:40
TokenBadbut I was using apt-get08:40
aftertafthats why you're here dude ;)08:40
TokenBadand tried --force-yet08:40
aftertafsame thing (sort of)08:40
TokenBad-yes even08:40
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TokenBadand it will not work08:40
Sgepbye all08:41
TokenBadsudo apt-get install --force-yes electricsheep08:41
TokenBadthats the command08:41
TokenBadand still get the error08:41
aftertafnope08:42
aftertafdpkg 08:42
TokenBadso I have to download the deb file?08:43
aftertafTokenBad:  you already have it man ;)08:43
TokenBadwhere?08:43
aftertaftype dpkg --force-help08:43
aftertaffor the cmd syntax08:43
TokenBadwhere would the deb file be though?08:43
aftertafall apt-got stuff is in /var/cache/apt/archives08:43
TokenBadoh ok08:43
aftertafgive me time to type!!!!!!!08:43
aftertaf;)08:43
aftertafi just woke up:)08:44
TokenBadheheh..sorry I type to fast08:44
aftertaflol08:44
aftertafyou'll find, if you do the dpkg -i --force-help itll give you syntax for the command.....08:44
aftertafthink its spkg -i --force-overwrite /var/pathtodeb/fullnameofdeb.deb08:45
aftertaferrr!08:45
aftertafdpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/pathtodeb/fullnameofdeb.deb08:45
logikaldud08:46
logikale08:46
logikalyou just woke up, where do you live?08:46
aftertafhehe08:46
aftertaffrance :)08:46
logikalcoo lol08:46
logikalwhat time is it there?08:46
aftertafbeen up 2 hours, but coffee needed and working round my blood supply right now :)08:47
aftertaf8:45 am08:47
TokenBadaftertaf, that worked...08:47
TokenBadthanks08:47
aftertafok :)08:47
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aftertafTokenBad:  you'll have the same message when you next upgrade xscreensaver.......   note that command and be aware of how to fix ;)08:47
TokenBadwell I need to upgrade to breezy08:47
TokenBadbut wondering if I should wait till the full release of kubuntu is released on the 13th08:48
logikalhmm08:48
logikalyes08:48
logikalthat's an idea08:48
aftertafwen you apg-get upgrade.... it may break cos of that... you'll need to remove the package first ;) or handle the dpkg command and rerun apt with apt-get -f install08:48
logikalman i fear upgrading08:48
=== aftertaf is as worthy as the rest of you, just had a couple of pbs and got help myself :)
aftertaflogikal:  dont... its a rite of passage08:48
aftertafbaptism of fire :)08:49
TokenBadyeah I am thinking of waiting for the full release on the 13th08:49
logikalhaha08:49
TokenBaddownload the install08:49
logikalIm on breezy08:49
aftertafnah. no need to wait now. serious08:49
TokenBadand install08:49
logikalhow long till i need to upgrade?08:49
TokenBadthen reinstall everything08:49
aftertafand i'm on kde 3.5 beta 08:49
logikal3.5? in breezy?08:49
aftertafTokenBad:  unless you've killed sth on the way, no need to reinstall at all08:49
aftertaflogikal:  nope..... separate ;)08:49
logikaloh ok08:50
logikalyou r the master08:50
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aftertafit was in the topic  before....08:50
aftertaflogikal:  hehe... nah, just daft enough to test untested software , and just knowledgable enough to know when i've broken it to much :)08:50
logikalwhy arent ya in the italian channel?08:50
logikaljw08:51
aftertafme?08:51
TokenBaddoing upgrade to breezy now08:52
TokenBadwish me luck08:52
aftertafgood lluck :)08:52
aftertafTokenBad:  disable backports (if enabled... no need for them now)08:52
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TokenBadnow you tell me08:52
aftertafand remove electric sheep deb package first.... or it WILL get upset at some point ;)08:52
logikalyeah, you aftertaf 08:53
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aftertaflogikal:  hehe i speak no italian at all, is why :)08:53
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kairu0yo08:53
logikalhaha08:53
logikalyou from usa?08:53
aftertafnope. brit :)08:53
aftertafUK UK UK :D08:53
logikalwhat you doing in france?08:53
aftertaf<life>      living     </life>08:53
aftertafended up here, happy for now..... :)08:54
kairu0<humor> LOL </humor>08:54
logikal<retards> durrhrh </retards>08:54
aftertaf:)   i get at much as i give on here.....08:54
aftertaf!cigarette08:54
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)08:54
aftertafbrb08:54
logikalubotu forget ciggarette08:55
ubotulogikal: i didn't have anything called 'ciggarette' to forget08:55
logikalthe hell you didnt08:55
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kkathmanIm back, sorry I had to try something to see if it solved a small issue I had08:55
TokenBadwow the update to breezy is downloading slow08:58
aftertafTokenBad:  maybe lots of ppl on it right now :)08:59
aftertafkkathman:  and did it? :)08:59
cynewhere's a good place to store my superkaramba themes?09:00
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aftertaf /usr/src/stuff ?09:00
cynehow about /usr/lib/themes/superkaramba09:01
cyne?09:01
aftertafif you want...... i dont know if there is a place 09:05
CaiN_SAerk09:07
kkathmanaftertaf: yep09:07
CaiN_SAwhat package contains spawn ?09:07
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kkathmanaftertaf:  but Im trying to do something very simple, but I cant seem to get a handle09:08
kkathmanaftertaf: I have a folder on my main linux box, that I want to access, but dont want ANYONE else to access.  Now I have a smbcredentials file, and all, but right now anyone can type \\linuxbox and get to any dir09:09
kkathmanI know this must be very simple to do09:09
kkathmanbut Im probably making it harder09:09
TokenBadso far so good09:10
TokenBadbut its still downloading09:10
TokenBad54% downloaded09:10
kkathmanTokenBad: just alot of traffic on that server I imagine09:10
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TokenBadits downloading in kb speed09:11
TokenBadinstead of KB speed09:11
TokenBadbah09:11
TokenBadheheh09:11
TokenBad79% downloaded09:17
TokenBadFetched 639MB in 32m21s09:24
TokenBadso guess good speed09:25
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kairu0thats not bad09:27
kairu0it takes me at least an hour09:27
TokenBadwell I am used to alot better speeds09:28
aftertafhehe09:29
aftertafpatience... all good things ;)09:29
TokenBadused to 3 gigs in 1 hour09:29
TokenBadheheh09:29
aftertafnice:)09:30
aftertaft1?09:30
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TokenBadno09:31
TokenBadcable09:31
TokenBad8mbit09:31
aftertafyeah... i get 600 kb/s at home on dsl :)09:32
TokenBadI get more than i am supposed to09:32
TokenBadstarted after a tech came out09:32
aftertafhehe09:32
TokenBadbut I am not complaining09:32
TokenBadI can get up to almost 2000 KB/s09:33
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m0ns00nmorning09:34
aftertaf:)09:35
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kairu0BOOP!09:40
pussfellerhow to upgrade to breezy, cant find it on the site09:42
kairu0its the same process as with ubuntu09:43
aftertaf!breezy09:43
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade09:43
TokenBadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?highlight=%28breezy%29%7C%28upgrade%2909:44
TokenBadoops09:44
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pussfellerthanks09:46
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Tonio-hi10:04
Tonio-little question concerning konqueror....10:05
Tonio-I tried to rip a cd the we, that I just bought10:05
Tonio-by copy-pasting the virtual ogg folder.10:06
TokenBadare there any live cd linux versions for low end pc's10:06
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ChousukeDeadCD perhaps10:06
Tonio-is there a way to configure konqueror to go over the 1x speed limit ?10:06
pussfellerlike a live-cd cli version?10:09
pussfellerthat would be kinda cool10:09
pussfellerwhat do you mean 1X limit? 10:09
pussfellerare you burning cds in konqy? I didnt know you could10:10
Chousukehttp://www.deadcd.org/10:10
pussfellerhey does breezy fix flaky kio_imap craziness?10:11
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ubuntu_how do you make a partiton with linux and windows 10:13
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helpmeanyone tried using klik??10:14
kairu0llik?10:17
pussfellerit sounds like a cross distro software installer10:19
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helpmeyup it is10:20
cynewhen i try and rebuild my collection in amarok it doesn't work10:22
cyne1.310:22
cyneit just does the build, but shows the build button again when complete10:22
Tonio-pussfeller: by 1x limit, I'm meaning that using konqueror to rip an audio in MP3 or OGG cd takes about 2 hours.....10:24
pussfelleryeah, thats too long10:24
Tonio-it reads to 1X instead of 40 as it could.....10:24
pussfelleri didnt even know konq could do that so10:25
pussfelleri use k3b10:25
Tonio-in fact if you put a cd and go in media:/10:25
Tonio-you will se virtual folders10:25
pussfellerbut since nautilus can do it konqy has to learn too10:25
pussfellerwhat it autorips the cd?10:25
Tonio-copy pasting those folders to rip..... it is implemented for a long time, but I can't rip at a speed over 1x....10:26
Tonio-don't know if this is a konqueror limit or a local problem10:26
Tonio-yes it autorips10:26
Tonio-when you open the cd within konqueror, you get several folders...10:27
Tonio-let me show you a screenshot$10:27
Tonio-pussfeller: http://www.virtualsky.net/daves/2005-08.htm10:27
Tonio-here it is..... problem is just the speded for me :)10:28
Tonio-s/speded/speed10:28
pussfelleroh ripping not cd burning10:30
pussfellerperhaps dma is not enabled10:30
pussfellerhoary misses my dvd and i always have to turn it on manually10:31
pussfellerand i remember cause the dvd is really choppy and slow10:31
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nikkiaDAE speed can be limited in the drive's firmware, lots of (mostly older) drives limit to 1x for DAE10:33
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Tonio-pussfeller: dma........... let me check, that indeed possible on that machine10:39
nikkiaTonio-: i personally doubt its DMA, even non-DMA the drive should be capable of DAE above 1x, assuming it supports DAE at speeds above 1x10:39
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Tonio-nikkia: I agree.... It is much faster using kaudiocreator for exemple10:40
Tonio-about 10 times faster... but dma isn't activated on that machine, I'm gonna do it ;)10:40
nikkiaTonio-: oh, so its not *always* 1x, just 1x with konqueror ?10:40
Tonio-nikkia: absolutly ;)10:41
Tonio-but I'm sure there is a way to change this10:41
nikkiathe simple answer is, use kaudiocreator, it gets tags right more often than the kio slave anyway :)10:41
Tonio-I can't imagine konqueror offers a complete ripping solution, with freedb, errors correction, and limited to 1x10:41
aftertafhave you filed a boog report?10:41
Tonio-nikkia: konqueror gets tags....10:42
nikkiaTonio-: it doesn't always get them right tho10:42
nikkiaTonio-: it doesn't prompt the user if there is more than one freedb entry, it just uses the first10:42
Tonio-aftertaf: justed wante to have a confirmation it wasn't due to my machine before posting a bug10:42
aftertafhehe10:42
Tonio-nikkia: that's right indeed...10:42
aftertaffair nuff10:42
nikkiaTonio-: don't get me wrong, i think the kio slave is a great idea, and a absolutely fantastic start, but it needs a tad more work before it can compete with a well setup kaudiocreator, IMO10:43
Tonio-nikkia: certainly ;) anyway I don't like the configuration possibilities of kaudiocreator.....10:45
aftertafwhen i change anything on sound system page, then apply (in kcontrol), it hangs badly and freezes X. I have to alt+F1 and killall the kded processes, which reinits X.10:45
Tonio-reading a 10 pages man to setup the MP3 quality is something that bothers me, really10:46
nikkiaTonio-: *shrug* i like the flexibility of kaudiocreator, i can make it rip to *any* format that has an encoder10:46
Tonio-yep but options should be "frontened" and not manually added to the command line....10:47
Tonio-at list for MP3 and OGG I think....10:47
Tonio-nikkia: I'm ready to read a big manpage to install a xen virtualized server, but to rip an MP3, well, that should be fully automitised today...10:47
nikkiaTonio-: i don't see any solution to the problem without gutting kaudiocreator's functionality, tbh10:48
Tonio-nikkia: ^^10:48
Tonio-ho another question on that point10:49
Tonio-why the hell isn't ubuntu able to detect the dma activabiliy during the installation and configure it automatically ?????10:49
nikkiaTonio-: either you know the lame command parameters, or you don't, any attempt to simplify them GUI-style, would result in a kaudiocreator that would have to ditch, or at least sideline, its ability to handle other formats10:49
Tonio-it is incredible it has to be done manually....10:49
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Tonio-nikkia: I don't agree, it could be possible to let the command line field and put buttons on the bottom that automatically add the right options...10:50
nikkiaTonio-: that would be sidelining the other formats, you'd have to make kaudiocreator specifically tailored towards running lame10:51
Tonio-yes it would have to be done for each encoder, but wouldn't limit other encoders availability....10:51
Tonio-just something "more" and not "instead of"10:52
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_nathanhey all11:02
_nathan:)11:02
aftertafhey :)11:02
_nathankubuntu rocks :)11:04
Hobbseekubuntu does11:08
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rumohi11:16
aftertafindeed it does rock11:16
aftertaf:)11:16
rumoi incidently disabled the menu bar in the kopete chat-window. how do i get it back?11:16
aftertaf:/ ?11:17
Hobbseethe menu bar?  or the ones with all the icons on it?11:17
rumono, the one with file-etc.11:18
Hobbseehow on earth did you manage to do that lol!11:18
Hobbseeah!11:18
Hobbseecontrol+m11:18
rumothere was an option there11:18
rumook, thanks :o)11:18
Hobbseeyep, just had a look and found it :)11:18
rumoits back!11:19
rumothank you11:19
Hobbseeno problems11:19
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Hobbseeaftertaf: nice call, i like it!11:24
aftertafhehe11:24
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Hobbsee:P11:24
aftertafmust admit, kde PWNS gnome like a badass!!!!!11:24
Hobbseedefinetly!11:24
aftertafi hate gnome,  really do...... it sux so much11:25
Hobbseeall the configs are so much easier in kcontrol11:25
aftertafdoes all sorts of crap and ends up making you lose your mind.11:25
Hobbseeoh yes...i cant stand it, particularly as there are 2 menus that really ought to be in the same one, although then there would be too many items11:25
Hobbseelol, ah, so that's why there are so many people askign for help there - they've all lost their minds11:25
Hobbseewhereas not so many people are here cos all their stuff is working11:25
Hobbsee*nods wisely* ::11:26
Hobbsee*:P11:26
aftertafhehehehehe11:26
aftertaf100% agree11:26
Hobbseewhat on earth has this guy done to his sources list???  to not have either ubuntu or kubuntu11:27
Tm_THobbsee: ?11:27
Hobbseethe one we are helping out11:28
Hobbseeit got a little crowded over there11:28
labkomcrowded11:28
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_labkomedian11:29
_labkomeverybody going crazy11:29
aftertafno idea Hobbsee :)11:29
CaiN_SAerm wtf11:30
Hobbseemmm...most curious11:30
CaiN_SAi got kde 3.4.3 on11:30
CaiN_SAbut there isnt such a thing :/11:30
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aftertafkde 3.411:31
aftertafwith minor revisions.....11:31
aftertafi like 3.5 beta..... loking sweet11:31
Hobbseeah right...so there was another one hey?11:31
Hobbseeit does, and there was another update to it yesterday :)11:31
Hobbseewell, an update to it11:31
m0ns00nWhat's up when I can't kill an app?11:32
m0ns00nkillall -9 proftpd results in nothing11:32
Hobbseetried xkill?11:32
m0ns00nkill -9 PIDNR results in nothin g11:32
m0ns00nxkill? for a console app?11:33
Hobbseeah11:33
m0ns00nit's run by /etc/init.d/proftpd11:33
Hobbseekillall nameofapp?11:33
m0ns00nI did that11:33
Hobbseehmm11:33
m0ns00nSo the breezy upgrade is halted11:33
m0ns00nIt just hangs on "Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/proftpd .."11:34
Hobbseeah...ouch...you're trying to upgrade to breezy and it crashes?11:34
m0ns00nproftpd11:34
Hobbseeaftertaf, any idea?11:34
m0ns00nIt's happened before11:34
m0ns00nwith proftpd11:34
aftertafcan you remove proftpd for now? and reinstall once upgraded?11:35
m0ns00nNo, cuz profptd refuses to stop11:35
m0ns00nI can't kill it11:35
m0ns00nctrl+c continued my upgrade11:36
m0ns00nis this a bug in the linux kernel, that some apps can't be killed?11:37
Hobbseeanything can happen in a dist upgrade...11:38
m0ns00ncan't remove proftpd, can't do anything to it, it's stuck11:38
m0ns00nif I reboot now I dunno what will happen11:38
Hobbseetry ctrl + c again?11:38
m0ns00nI did11:38
aftertafdoes a killall work?11:38
aftertaferf11:38
m0ns00nno11:38
aftertafupdate-rc.d -f proftpd remove, then reboot?11:39
aftertafor init 111:39
m0ns00n6916 pts/2    00:00:00 proftpd.postins11:41
m0ns00nthat one is blocking11:41
aftertafedit it then........11:41
aftertafi had to do that for another pkg11:41
aftertafremove the cmd that makes it crash on removal.11:41
m0ns00nrm can't be removed either11:42
m0ns00nrm is running somehow11:42
m0ns00nlogger11:42
m0ns00nmysqld11:42
m0ns00napache11:42
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aftertafi meant, edit the /var/......proftpd.postins stript and comment out the line that causes the error.11:44
m0ns00nNo go11:44
m0ns00nthere is no error11:44
m0ns00nproftp just won't stop11:45
m0ns00nThat's the problem11:45
m0ns00nI can't kill it11:45
m0ns00ngonna log out and see if it helps11:45
case^how do I restart my network card? 11:47
aftertaf/etc/init.d/networking restart11:47
case^it isn't picking up an IP, also where do I type IFconfig?11:47
aftertafor sudo ifdown eth0, then sudo ifup eth011:47
aftertafifconfig, in a shell.11:48
case^thank you11:48
case^I have the file in front of me /init.d/networking but double clicking does nothing11:49
case^how does .sh work?11:50
aftertafdbl click wont do anything.11:50
aftertafsh is a shell script...11:50
aftertafyou run it by typing sh script.sh11:50
aftertaftype /etc/init.d/networking restart11:50
case^thanks but it still fails11:53
case^tbh nothing works 11:54
case^and KDE is purple 11:54
case^1 reboot and everything broke11:54
aftertafdid you do anything you didnt understand?11:54
aftertafbefore rebooting?11:54
case^apart from everything?11:55
aftertaflol11:55
aftertafok11:55
aftertaf:) i understand your confusion11:55
aftertafcan you remember any changes you did11:55
case^the system whent it to suspended mode and wouldn't come out11:55
case^power got ripped11:55
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case^when normally you would click and everything comes back11:56
case^this just sat there11:56
case^I spent 3 hours installing opera and that was it11:56
case^all I did11:56
Hobbsee3 hours installing opera?  you must have done something else in that time...11:57
aftertafok.11:57
case^nope11:57
aftertafyeah, wait.... probably11:57
aftertaf;)11:57
Hobbseehmmm11:57
case^looking at a ter=minal line that I would dir and it would show me a folder11:57
case^but cd /thatfolder didn't work11:57
case^fun!11:57
Hobbseeno /11:57
Hobbseeit'd just be cd foldername11:57
case^that didn't work either11:58
Hobbseecase sensitive11:58
case^trust me I had time to figure it out11:58
Hobbseelol...cos i just tried it, and it's cd foldername which is case sensitive11:58
case^good for you!12:00
Hobbseeyeah, i know it's not much help, sorry12:01
case^I would say ssh into and play but the damn network card is being shunned12:01
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Hobbseelol...i wouldnt know how to ssh anyway12:04
case^just use puTTY12:05
case^I would reinstall but I haven't changed anything12:06
case^so I doubt that would help12:06
case^I swear this is some masochistict (sp?) shit why would anything be so hard to use12:07
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case^it's nice to have install guides - but once it's installed there are no guides12:11
case^wtf use is this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkConfiguration?highlight=%28network%2912:11
case^I want to fix my card12:11
case^not read about how the packages might get changed12:12
case^whats a distro thats less of a pain?12:14
case^I thought that this was the easiest12:14
asranielis there a multiverse repository for kubuntu 5.10 ?12:14
Hobbseeasraniel: yes12:16
Hobbseedeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse12:16
asranielHobbsee: nice, and where can i find it? i couldnt find it in the wiki12:16
Hobbseedeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse12:16
asranielah thank you :-)12:17
Hobbseehad to get it off my sources list12:17
Hobbseeno problems :)12:17
Hobbseecase^: you could try something like mepis if you wanted to12:17
Hobbseesee if that would detect your hardware any better12:19
case^It detected all my hardware fine12:19
case^I use a 10 year old 3com card for that reason12:19
Hobbseeah12:19
case^I tried linux 4 years ago12:19
case^and it's still the same12:20
case^unless you actually have a friend who is willing to help you out for a month you're screwed12:20
case^nice to know nothing changes but the numbers12:20
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asranieli have a problem.. my USB doesent work. where could i search for error messages?12:31
Hobbseemaybe in kinfocenter, usb devices tab?12:33
Hobbseethere's probably a better way that i dont know about though12:33
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aftertafasraniel:  check lsmod output.12:35
aftertafsee if usbcore is loaded12:36
aftertaflsmod | grep usb12:36
aftertafif not, try modprobe usbcore12:36
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ben1984Can anyone help me?12:37
aftertafcase^:  i partially agree.... but then again, wask youself why you want to use linux....12:37
aftertafask your qU.12:37
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asranielaftertaf: i get this output: usbcore               104188  3 ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd. but as a example when i plug in my ipod, nothing happens12:41
Ben1984How do I find a Dell Printer Driver for Linux?12:42
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aftertafasraniel:  ok. but you have usb.12:42
aftertafyou have an Ipod detection problem.12:42
aftertafare youon hoary or breezy?12:42
aftertafBen1984:  with CUPS, there are already a load of drivers, have you searched and tried to install it that way?12:43
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Ben1984Hold on....I found the Add a Printer wizard....12:44
Ben1984I don't see my model listed12:45
Ben1984I heard that some lexmark drivers are close to Dell drivers?12:45
Ben1984i have an AIO12:45
Tonio-Ben1984: in fact dell printers are simply packages lexmark ones ;)12:45
Tonio-and most of the time you can use a lexmark driver for a dell printer.12:46
Ben1984I know...12:46
Ben1984which one should i use?12:46
Tonio-what is your printer ?12:46
Ben1984Dell All-In-One 94012:46
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Tonio-the problem is to know what is the equivalent lexmark model ;)12:47
torzmmm can someone teach me how to use chroot please.12:47
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Ben1984I'll go googling :)12:47
Tonio-torz: with pbuilder or simply chroot ?12:47
torzsimply chroot I think12:47
aftertafi know it is with debootstrap12:48
aftertafsometimes12:48
torzall I want is a small contained environment for my website files.12:48
torzso I can say /images/blah.jpg12:48
torzand etc12:48
Tonio-in fact I nerver used a chroot outside of a pbuilder environnment, so I may be able to help you ;)12:48
Tonio-+not.... ;)12:48
torzgutted!12:48
torzbut thats what chroot for is right?12:49
torzto make a small mini environment12:49
Tonio-chroot is to create a dedicated and autonomn secure environnment12:49
Tonio-ideal for compiling applications in a clean and minimalistic environnment for exemple12:49
torzoh secure?12:49
Tonio-to to execute 32bits applications on a linux64 based distro12:50
torzI see12:50
Tonio-well "secure" is a consequence, not the main purpose...12:50
Tonio-you might searchon ubuntu wiki concerning pbuilder, everything is explained on howto install the chroot.12:51
Ben1984How the heck do i get in root12:51
torzsudo?12:51
Tonio-the only thing that is not explained is how to make usage of it outside of a pbuilder usage12:51
aftertafBen1984:  rot is disabled, but if you NEED to reenable it you can.12:52
torzBen1984: like any other distro, "su" but in Kubuntu we use sudo :)12:52
aftertaf!rootsudo12:52
uboturumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:52
Ben1984so sudo what12:53
Ben1984i want to log into the GUI as root12:53
torzsudo command12:53
aftertafinto the gui? what for?12:53
aftertafyou mean cli?12:54
aftertafor to run an X app from a virtual terminal?12:54
aftertafkdesud command12:54
Ben1984i tried to install one of the printer drivers and it gave me a permissions error12:54
aftertafkdesud kcontrol?12:54
aftertafthen try again... ?12:55
Tonio-aftertaf: kdesu kcontrol12:55
aftertafcould work.12:55
Tonio-forgot the last "d"12:55
aftertaferf!12:55
Ben1984it says either the driver doesnt exist or you dont have the necessary permissions12:55
aftertafsorry bout that12:55
Tonio-and if you want to get a root shell (meaning permanent), you can try "sudo -s"12:55
Tonio-Ben1984: I searched without success.....12:56
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Ben1984i got it12:57
Ben1984at th ebottom of the print manager window...it said run as admni12:57
Ben1984admin12:57
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chx|zzzZZZZZZzzzRiddell: ping12:59
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Ben1984ugh...same message12:59
Ben1984i give up12:59
Ben1984Gosh why is Linux so damn difficult12:59
Ben1984when everyone says its easy12:59
chxBen1984: well... it's simpler than, say Windows at least :P01:00
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torzBen1984: Linux is only free if your time has no value.01:00
Ben1984Actually Windows is much simpler than this01:01
asranielaftertaf: because of my usb problem. i have breezy, the latest Kubuntu RC with the latest updates01:01
Ben1984doesn't mean it's more secure01:01
Ben1984but it is simpler01:01
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torzBen1984: agreed, hence my above comment.01:01
Ben1984and why is this showing my IP address01:01
Ben1984sheesh01:01
Ben1984lmao01:01
phoenixbyrdwelcome to irc :P01:02
aftertafBen1984:  it is piss simple....... when you know what you are doning.01:02
aftertafyou have to unlearn a lot of things first though, windows habits.....01:03
aftertafBen1984:  read this .....: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm01:03
Ben1984i dunno01:03
Ben1984i dont like this command line thing01:03
Ben1984just to install everything01:03
phoenixbyrdyea, like piss simple installation of software. here if u can't find a .deb or .rpm, u gotta compile, and dependancies are sweet too :(01:03
aftertafuboti, linuxnotwindows is http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm01:03
Ben1984why cant they make it automated01:03
aftertafubotu, linuxnotwindows is http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm01:03
ubotuokay, aftertaf01:03
aftertafBen1984:  seruiusoly. read that link.....01:04
Ben1984why?01:04
Ben1984i have already read so much01:05
Ben1984how do you think i got this far :P01:05
nikkiaBen1984: windows is hideously complicated too, you know, just most people 'already know it' so they assume there is no learning curve01:05
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Ben1984hence why i am trying to get my printer to work so i can print out tips and such01:05
aftertafBen1984:  its a damn good read01:05
aftertaflol01:05
aftertaf:))))))))01:05
nikkiaBen1984: but take the 'not quite so common stuff' like how to enable IP6 on a LAN, and 99% of people will have just as much trouble doing it in windows as linux01:05
phoenixbyrdmy 4 yr old uses windows... can't be that complicated lol01:05
Ben1984Windows is not this complicated01:05
Ben1984exactly01:06
aftertafphoenixbyrd:  my 9 yr old uses linux.01:06
Ben1984my 7 yr old brother can use windows like no other01:06
aftertaflinux is not a replacement for windows01:06
Ben1984I want to put him on this and see how he does01:06
aftertafdont compare what cant be compared.01:06
phoenixbyrdI won't let him touch my linux os cuz even I break it... just had to reinstall, now I gotta set everything back up again :(01:06
aftertafits not because you have a mouse that moves the pointy thing that it should be the same and look the same, and act the same.01:06
Ben1984well it's trying!01:07
aftertafplease, guys.... read that link.01:07
Ben1984i see a taskbar01:07
Ben1984a clock01:07
phoenixbyrdit wouldn't hurt linux tho if ppl made real installers for linux apps01:07
aftertafBen1984:  its trying, in order to make the transition easier for windows users to come over to linux.01:07
Ben1984max and min buttons....01:07
torzphoenixbyrd: heh, apt-get install *whatever* is easy enough for me :~)01:07
Ben1984i'm with phoenix....thats really my only ordeal is installing appz01:08
aftertafphoenixbyrd:  Ben1984 .......... i ageed with you so much before, but i was wrong, and you are too..... seriously.01:08
torzhonestly any schmuck can use apt/yum/yast and etc01:08
aftertafapt-get install is not hard.01:08
phoenixbyrdyea, IF you have all the dependencies and the right repo's set up and etc etc etc01:08
aftertafand......?01:08
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aftertafsorry, im gonna have to flod just a little.....01:08
Ben1984where can i get this apt-get install01:08
eclub02#suse01:08
torzyou already do01:08
aftertafBen1984:  its there already.01:08
aftertaf!linuxnotwindows01:08
ubotulinuxnotwindows is, like, http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm01:08
Ben1984i'll have a read01:09
torzhonestly, package manager is where its at for 90% of things.01:09
torzfor movie players and etc, fuck it.01:09
Ben1984why is there a Lindows then?01:09
Ben1984yeah the Package Manager is great01:09
nikkiaphoenixbyrd: yeah, because installers are utterly perfect in windows - lets ignore for a minute the fact that close to 40% of the installshield installers out there still use the old 16bit installer, *that does not work on win xp64*01:09
aftertafLinux <=> Windows is like Motorbikes <=> Cars: Both are vehicles that get you from A to B via the roads. But they're different shapes, different sizes, have different safety mechanisms, different controls, and they work in fundamentally different ways.01:10
Ben1984most people dont have the 64 bit edition either01:10
phoenixbyrdI don't use xp64 and prolly never will so it doesn't affect me and installshield has always worked fine for me01:10
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Kamping_KaiserBen1984: your trolling....01:10
aftertafIn the same way, well-meaning Linux newcomers make suggestions about making Linux more like what they're used to. And they get nowhere, for all the same reasons. Linux and Windows might both be used for the same purposes, but so are a car & motorbike. That doesn't mean you can swap directly from one to the other, and it doesn't mean features can or should be swapped directly from one to the other. 01:10
aftertafThis simple fact can cause great difficulty for the more established Windows users. They come to Linux with many Windows habits ingrained and an attitude of "I know exactly how to use a computer, thank you very much." The problem is, they don't. They only know how to use Windows. When they come to a different OS, these "power users" can be the ones who have the worst problems: They have far more to unlearn.01:10
Ben1984I am just trying to get help01:11
Ben1984you guys are explaining stuff liek i should already know it01:11
aftertafwe arent here to see why linux isnt like windows, and why it should be.......01:11
Ben1984dont get me started on the forums....a simple question to you may be a hard one for me01:11
Ben1984those people bite your head off...01:12
aftertafWhere a newbie will just say "I don't know" and start asking on forums, the Windows power user will say "I know how to do this, I just do this, this, this, and then. . . It doesn't work! Stupid OS!" And then they'll say "If knowledgeable me couldn't get it working, a newbie will stand no chance! Linux is nowhere near ready for desktop use!". They don't realise that all their knowledge is working against them, causing them to have more problems than th01:12
aftertafe less knowledgeable users. They've made the mistake of thinking Linux is different software doing the same thing as Windows, when it's actually different software doing different things. It's not doing a bad job of the same tasks, it's doing a good job of alternative tasks. 01:12
aftertafLinux is an alternative to Windows, but not a replacement. It will never be a replacement, because it has incompatible goals. 01:12
Ben1984it's like....couldnt you ignore the question instead of belittling me01:12
torzthey're fags01:12
aftertafBen1984:  we know that a simple question for us is harder for a newcomer.... thats why we want to help and try to help.01:12
phoenixbyrdu gotta admit tho aftertaf, most linux user's treat noobs to linux like they SHOULD kno all this already. Most don't know what and apt-get is and sum even take offense when u tell them fsck01:12
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aftertafive only been on ubuntu 2 months01:13
Ben1984i've only been for 4 days01:13
aftertafwelcome to ubuntu, in that case :)01:13
phoenixbyrdbout 3 for me, but I've used mandrake before01:13
Ben1984i learn quickly01:13
aftertafsome things are hard to do, i understand...... and sympathise.... i have most of your difficulties and things to unlearn Im MCSE 2003 ffs :)01:14
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CaiN_SAaftertaf, somehow kubuntu has done magic01:14
CaiN_SAi swear01:14
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Ben1984oops01:14
CaiN_SAi have kde 3.4.3 installed01:14
CaiN_SAbut i looked on kde.org and there is no kde 3.4.3 :(01:14
aftertafCaiN_SA:  hehe :)01:14
aftertafits 3.401:14
Kamping_Kaiserlol01:14
CaiN_SAthere is 3.4.2 on kde site01:15
aftertafBen1984:  hehe watch that X buttin ;)01:15
Ben1984yeah funny...lol01:15
aftertafBen1984:  ok, did you find anything about your printer?01:15
aftertafits a dell AIO what?01:15
Ben1984eh, no...i'll keep looking01:15
Ben198494001:15
Ben1984it'd be great if i could print the linuxNotWindows!01:16
Kamping_Kaiserlool01:16
Ben1984rebooting gets to be iresome01:16
Ben1984tiresome01:16
Kamping_Kaiserwhy are yo urebooting? :|01:16
torzyeah why reboot?01:16
eclub02hi friend...01:17
eclub02can you help me?01:17
Ben1984to get into windows so i can print help files01:17
Ben1984and then come back to kubuntu and execute01:17
Ben1984sometimes needing further help01:18
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Kamping_KaiserBen1984:  :( suxors.01:18
Kamping_Kaisereclub02: not if we dont know whats wrong01:18
phoenixbyrdhas anyone looked at SkyOS yet?01:18
aftertafyeah, it does get on the nerves. i was like that for a while with internet connection via linux... :/01:18
Ben1984I hope Google hurries and makes an OS01:18
Kamping_Kaiserlol01:18
aftertaflol 201:19
Ben1984omg...i am surprised everything 'worked' whe i first installed this01:19
Kamping_Kaiseri was thinking about GoogleOSBeta before ;)01:19
Ben1984i had horror stories with Slackware01:19
Kamping_Kaiserit would own everythig :D01:19
aftertafyou are anew user coming to linux. slackware is not for you.01:19
aftertaf(or me!!!!!!!!!)01:19
Ben1984yeah i learned that very quickly01:19
aftertafKamping_Kaiser:  lool totally01:19
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Ben1984how do i emote people?01:20
Kamping_Kaiser?01:20
Ben1984the whole Ben1984: :( suxors.01:21
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eclub02can do you help me about suse?01:22
aftertafemote?01:22
Ben1984well talk to someone specifically01:22
aftertafeclub02:  we dont do suse here... ive never even seen it b401:22
Kamping_Kaiserno eclub02, i dont use it... your also in #kubuntu, so bad place to ask01:23
aftertafehe ok.01:23
Ben1984you guys arent that slow of what i was trying to ask01:23
aftertafBen1984:  depends on your irc client.01:23
Kamping_KaiserBen1984: depends on your client01:23
aftertaf /msg nick message01:23
Kamping_Kaiserlol aftertaf, you keep beating me :P01:23
aftertafor rightclick nick and open dialog window01:23
Ben1984i am using Konversation01:23
aftertafhehe Kamping_Kaiser :01:23
aftertaf)01:23
Ben1984I stumbled upon it on accident01:24
aftertafrightclick a name and see..... :)01:24
Kamping_Kaiser:)01:24
eclub02i have aproblem whit suse9.3, it often hank, why?01:24
phoenixbyrdI can't find mplayer or realplayer in my repo's anymore after I reinstalled :(01:24
aftertafphoenixbyrd:  enable multi/universe01:24
aftertaf!repos01:24
ubotuwell, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)01:24
aftertafphoenixbyrd:  ^^^^^ see link.01:25
aftertafeclub02:  download kubuntu 5.10 CD and have more fun :)01:25
eclub02hi friends, i want to ask, why my linux suse9.3 often hank?01:26
eclub02my computer spesification:01:26
eclub02P4 1.6 G  01:26
eclub02mem 128 ==> swap =300  01:26
eclub02standart for other  01:26
eclub0201:26
eclub02i just run editor vi on konsole, no run hard aplication like open office or other aplikasi. wheather is there some file / driver module that not support or what? 01:26
eclub02can you give me solution?01:26
eclub02before, i'm sorry about my grammer my INDONESIAN, thank's a lot01:26
Kamping_Kaisereclub02: we cant help you, as we dont use suse01:26
eclub02Kamping_Kaiser : sorry about it Mr, i'm so sorry01:26
aftertafget kubuntu and you'll not regret it, seriously :)01:27
Ben1984?01:27
aftertaflol Ben1984 :))))01:27
Ben1984hehe01:27
Kamping_Kaisereclub02: :) thats ok01:27
Ben1984and i thought i was having trouble01:27
aftertafeclub02:  dont worry.... but nobody uses suse here, you're not in the right place, unless you want to try another linux version. A lot of indonesians are in #ubuntu....01:27
Ben1984sweet!@ Thunderbird is in the PM01:28
aftertafBen1984:  googld around for the drivers thing and no joy..:/     is there a generic pcl5 or postscript driver you can use?01:28
aftertafBen1984:  it said you didnt have the driver, or permissiondenied, that right?01:29
Ben1984yeah01:29
Ben1984well01:30
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Ben1984i tried others near the driver i wanted but it didnt work when i hit test01:30
Ben1984in the ports list it detects it....01:30
Ben1984USB:Dell AIO01:30
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gsuvegre01:31
gsuveghow works the katapult ?01:31
aftertafits a usb printer... OK.01:31
gsuvegsry but i dont find any doc :(01:31
aftertafworks well, and yours?01:31
phoenixbyrdgsuveg:  press alt+space01:31
gsuvegand ?01:31
phoenixbyrdthen type in an app name, like xchat01:31
phoenixbyrdor whatever u wanna open01:31
gsuvegwow01:31
gsuvegtahnks01:31
phoenixbyrdnp01:32
aftertafit will show a splash screen...... at which point you start typing your command.01:32
Ben1984i want this ksmooth thing but im not sure how to install it01:32
aftertafhehe you see phoenixbyrd you help ppl too ;)01:32
aftertafwhat is it?01:32
aftertafksmooth i mean.01:32
gsuvegphoenixbyrd: insane ;)01:32
phoenixbyrdlol01:32
phoenixbyrdI use it alot now01:32
gsuveghow do you start ?01:32
gsuvegput destkop into Autostart ?01:33
aftertafhehe except for running konqueror ...01:33
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Ben1984http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=658501:33
eclub02hi friend, i wont to know, where i get ubuntu paket install for dependensies?01:33
aftertafeclub02:  ubuntu packets are in the repositories, used by apt-get.....    you want to try installing one on slackware?01:35
eclub02i not on line01:35
eclub02my conputer alone on home01:36
eclub02so where i find it?01:36
aftertafyou cant use  debian packages on slackware though.....01:36
aftertafi dont think so anyway.01:36
aftertafhttp://archive.ubuntu.com01:36
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eclub02ok, thank's aftertaf01:37
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aftertafget a kubuntu CD and try it. :)01:38
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eclub02i have try it, before01:39
Ben1984cool....got my mail setup01:39
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Kamping_Kaiserwb ubotu01:40
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aftertaf!good bot01:41
ubotuthanks aftertaf :)01:41
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aftertafhehe Ben1984 god for you :)01:41
aftertafeach step is a small victory. :)01:41
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aftertafand other such banalities that i can chuck areound :D01:41
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Ben1984:)01:42
aftertaf!botsnack01:43
ubotuthanks aftertaf :)01:43
aftertaf!cigarette01:43
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)01:43
Ben1984ok...on my desktop...the name icons flow to the second line01:43
Ben1984how do i make the font smaller01:43
aftertafben: control cetner, appearances....01:43
Hobbsee!beer01:43
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, Hobbsee01:43
Hobbseeit doesnt know what beer is, yet does know what a cigarette is?  shame on you !ubotu01:44
Ben1984ok i did it...but that didnt make the names appear on one line01:44
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Hobbseemake the name shorter?01:44
Ben1984Well duh....but there's no way for it not to cut it off?01:45
Hobbseeoh, i thought there was a rename there somewhere01:45
Hobbseelet me go look01:45
aftertafubotu, beer is Stop! Have a beer........  it's $1 's round too....  Mine's a John Smith's01:45
ubotuokay, aftertaf01:45
aftertaf!beer Hobbsee 01:45
ubotuaftertaf: I don't know01:45
aftertafcrud01:45
Hobbsee!beer01:46
ubotuit has been said that beer is Stop! Have a beer........  it's $1 's round too....  Mine's a John Smith's01:46
Hobbseehehe01:46
Ben1984Stop!01:46
Hobbseecoke?01:46
Hobbsee!coke01:46
ubotuHobbsee: I don't know01:46
aftertafubotu, no beer is Stop! Have a beer......  Mine's a John Smith's01:46
ubotuokay, aftertaf01:46
Kamping_Kaiserlol. ubotus not going right :D01:46
Hobbseelol01:46
aftertaf!beer01:46
ubotubeer is, like, Stop! Have a beer......  Mine's a John Smith's01:46
Ben1984"Your system is up to date."01:47
Ben1984yay!01:47
HobbseeBen1984: this is a desktop shortcut?  hit f2 to rename it01:47
Hobbsee;D01:47
Ben1984well i know how to rename it01:47
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Ben1984i already renamed Mozilla Thunderbird Mail Client to just Thunderbird01:48
Ben1984but it still flows to second line01:48
Hobbseeah, i see what you mean now01:48
Ben1984configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:48
Ben1984anywho....so i tried to install an app with ./configure...it started going but then gave me this error message: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:49
Ben1984yeah Hobb...doesnt it look tacky?01:49
Ben1984:o)01:49
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Hobbseelol true01:50
Hobbseei'm surprised it doesnt by default01:50
cynehow do i make a window 'always on top' ?01:50
Hobbseei never have any desktop icons anyway, they're all in kicker or gotten by katapult01:51
Ben1984whats kicker?01:51
Ben1984i am trying to install this ksmooth app01:51
Hobbseecyne: right click on window in kicker, advanced, keep above others01:51
aftertafkicker is the panel, and the start menu etc...01:51
Hobbseekicker is the bluish thing (or grey) at the bottom of your screen, with the kmenu and the time on it, as well as whatever else you've put on there01:52
Hobbsee!kicker01:52
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ubotuHobbsee: Are you smoking crack?01:52
aftertaf!info kicker01:52
Hobbseehmmm...maybe lol01:52
ubotukicker: (KDE Desktop Panel), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu18 (hoary), Packaged size: 1652 kB, Installed size: 4880 kB01:52
aftertafheheheheheheheh :)01:52
Ben1984oh01:52
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Ben1984yeah01:52
Ben1984the kicker01:52
Ben1984lol01:52
Hobbseeah, i didnt know that you could use info01:52
nikkiaHobbsee: there's no blueish, or greyish, thing at the bottom of MY screen! :P01:52
aftertafnikkia:  yeah but you are a hardcore us3r01:53
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aftertaflol01:53
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Hobbseeditto nikkia01:53
Hobbseeyeah, cos you moved it or changed it01:53
Ben1984sometimes my clock doesnt display right01:53
Ben1984it switched to UTC all by itself01:53
Hobbseeoy, smug one, what's the clock solution?01:54
Hobbsee:P01:54
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Kamping_Kaiserhi Hobbsee01:56
Hobbseehi Kamping_Kaiser :D01:56
Kamping_Kaiser:)01:56
cyne Hobbsee i'm trying to get my superkaramba windows to stay on top with zero success :(01:56
inc|freakydoes any1 know  a good ftp client for linux/kde with GUI and tls/ssl support?01:56
cyneinc|freaky: gftp01:56
inc|freakycyne: thx01:56
Hobbseecyne: never used superkamba, but is there a configuration option for it or something?01:57
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Hobbseeright click somewhere on it and it might work, like other windows do01:57
cyneHobbsee: yeah one would hope so01:57
cynebut i don't see it after hunting01:57
cyneeach 'theme' opens as a subset of the superkaramba window, which itself stays 'on top' when selected, the subwindows not doing so01:58
Ben1984how do you get to the task manager?01:58
cyneksysguard01:58
Ben1984or whatever it's called in Kubuntu01:58
cyneksysguard01:58
Ben1984?01:58
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cynethat's what it's called01:59
Kamping_Kaiserbbl. show about spike01:59
asranielBen1984: CTRL+ESC01:59
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Hobbseecyne: i've got no idea, but can i see a screenshot of what you've done with the superkaramba?  i'm curious now02:00
Hobbsee!info rss-glx02:00
uboturss-glx: (Really Slick Screensavers GLX Port), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.7.5-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 4692 kB, Installed size: 5296 kB02:00
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Hobbsee*nods* nice screensaver that, and the info command must work for all the packages02:00
Ben1984i wonder if th ehelios screensaver works02:01
Ben1984Helios02:01
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Ben1984how do i mount my ntfs drives?02:01
Ben1984if i cant get too root?02:02
Hobbseeyou can tget to root, or you dont have the root password?02:02
Ben1984i have the password02:02
Ben1984someone said it's disabled02:02
Hobbseeah, that's the root account02:02
Hobbseeyou can still use sudo though02:03
Hobbsee!sudo02:03
ubotufrom memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:03
Ben1984!root02:03
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:03
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Hobbseeindeed helious screensaver works, it doesnt look as pretty as solarwinds, imho02:03
Ben1984and then what?02:03
Hobbseeto mount the drives?02:04
Hobbseeoh yes, i was going to get that info lol02:04
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Ben1984i want to mount 3 partitions02:04
HobbseeAssuming that /dev/hda1 is the location of the Windows partition (FAT) and the local mount folder is: /media/windows 02:04
Hobbseewhich ones do you want to mount02:04
Hobbseehmmm...that didnt work02:04
Hobbseehttp://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ch05.html02:05
Hobbseethat looks better02:05
Ben1984how do i see which is which02:05
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Hobbseepartitions?02:05
Hobbseethe first step in that guide02:05
Ben1984nevermind02:06
Ben1984i'll read02:06
Hobbseescroll down to the part where it says mount at bootup02:06
Ben1984thanks02:06
Hobbsee:P02:06
Hobbseeno probs02:06
Hobbsee!breezy02:06
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade02:06
Hobbsee!releasedate02:06
ubotuHobbsee: Are you smoking crack?02:06
Hobbseewhy dont we have the breezy release date in the bot?02:06
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Ben1984hmm02:09
Ben1984i'm lost02:09
Ben1984i dont want to mount the windows partition02:10
Hobbseeright, what are you wanting to mount?02:10
Hobbseeas in, what file systems are the partitions?02:10
Ben1984i have a partition on this disk with just data02:10
Ben1984ntfs02:10
Hobbseeright, yep02:10
Hobbseewhat are the other 202:10
Ben1984i have 2 internal hardrives and one external02:10
Ben1984all ntfs02:10
Ben1984580 GB total02:10
Hobbseesudo fdisk -l and paste the results in the pastebin02:11
Ben1984LOL..02:11
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Ben1984thans an L isnt it?02:11
Ben1984thats*02:11
Ben1984i was typing the number 1...grrr02:12
Hobbseeyeah, it's an l02:12
Hobbsee*L02:12
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Ben1984pastebin?02:13
Hobbsee!pastebin02:13
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:13
Hobbseeprobably use the kubuntu pastebin, in the topic02:13
Hobbseeseeing as i've already got some stuff there about fstabs and mounting partitions02:14
aftertafthough you might be better copying over and reformatting fat32 cos you cant modify or write to ntfs02:15
Ben1984no way am i going to reformat02:15
Hobbseelol02:16
Ben1984hmmm02:16
Ben1984maybe if i create fat32 partitions little by little02:16
Ben1984and transfer....until its all fat3202:16
aftertafwindows has a limit on fat3202:16
Ben1984then combine them all02:16
aftertafbut not linux. thats how i have a 45gig fat partiton :)02:16
Ben1984im not messing with my c drive02:17
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aftertafnot the c drive though...02:17
Ben1984ok this is what i have....02:17
aftertaftry qtparted and reduce the size.02:17
Ben1984HD1: C: (Win), I: 500 MB     HD2: D: (Data), Linux   HD3: External (Data)02:19
Ben1984basically i just need D:02:19
Ben1984mounted02:19
Ben1984it's hdb102:19
Hobbseeyou can mount all 4 partitions you know, if they arent already02:19
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Ben1984how come my gedit doesnt work?02:21
Hobbseeyou're using kde, and gedit is a gnome app?02:22
aftertafhehe02:22
Hobbseeie probably not insatlled02:22
aftertafkate02:22
Ben1984oh02:22
Hobbseeno, kwrite02:22
Ben1984kedit?02:22
Ben1984lmao02:22
Hobbseekate never likes opening things as root02:22
Hobbseethat too, if you prefer02:22
Hobbseeand gives errors a lot of the time trying to open the silly thing02:22
Ben1984kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.02:23
Ben1984LMAO!02:23
aftertaflol02:23
Hobbseeyeah, like i said02:23
Ben1984lol02:23
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Ben1984thats funny02:23
Hobbseethat it is02:23
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Hobbseehehe02:24
Ben1984does my cd-roms even work?02:24
Ben1984i havent tried them02:24
Hobbseeshould do02:24
Ben1984: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto02:24
Ben1984whats noauto?02:24
Ben1984i am in fstab02:25
Hobbseeno autoplay?02:26
Ben1984oh02:26
Hobbseenot sure02:26
Ben1984i am getting these commands! :o)02:26
Hobbseelol02:26
Hobbseewhich commands?02:26
Ben1984they are starting to mak esense02:26
Hobbseeah yes02:26
Hobbseeyes, they eventually do02:26
Ben1984make and cd...and such02:26
Ben1984reminds me of DOS02:27
Hobbseeexcept for long and complicated things such as lsmod02:27
aftertafcli rules02:27
Hobbsee*nods* i never did like learning bits of dos, but they have been useful02:27
Hobbseeso does shutting down someone elses computer remotely02:27
Hobbsee:P02:27
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Ben1984cp means copy?02:28
Hobbseeyep02:28
Ben1984cool02:28
Hobbseeand rm means remove02:28
Hobbseemv means move02:28
Ben1984so i am making a back up of the fsatb file02:28
Ben1984fstab*02:29
Ben1984:o)02:29
Hobbseeah yes, always useful02:29
Ben1984whats this unmask=0222 mean?02:32
Ben1984can you make scripts? for the cli?02:34
Hobbseegot no idea02:34
Hobbseeand i would think so02:34
Hobbseedont ask me how, i dont know02:34
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Ben1984lol02:34
Hobbsee;P02:34
Ben1984ok i am going to reboot...see if this works...i'll be back02:34
Ben1984(hopefully)...lol02:34
Hobbseelol k02:35
Phantom^^hey can someone help me configure apt to work with my universities proxy ?02:38
Hobbseeprobably someone can if you give more detail...02:38
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Phantom^^nvm i think i have worked it out02:39
aftertafhehe02:39
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aftertafPhantom^^:  you are behnd a proxy?02:39
aftertafcreate apt.conf and add ther acquire http proxy line ;)02:39
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aftertafhi thoreauputic 02:39
Ben1984haha kate popped up after i restarted...lol02:39
Ben1984funny02:39
Ben1984now how do i see if this worked02:39
thoreauputicaftertaf: hi 02:40
aftertafand about the roses, thoreauputic ....... simple as hell, but worked a treat. Wanted to say thx man ;)02:40
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thoreauputicaftertaf: heheh - well keep it going :)02:40
Ben1984sweet :P02:41
HobbseeBen1984: yeah, it does, precisely when you dont need it02:41
Ben1984how do i keep the folder view the same??02:41
Hobbseego to the folder where you told the drive to mount?02:41
Ben1984I like Listed02:42
Ben1984i see it02:42
Ben1984it worked...02:42
Hobbseethen it worked :)02:42
Ben1984what play's mp3's?02:42
Hobbseemost of the multimedia apps02:43
Hobbseeamarok does, along with the rest02:44
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Ben1984it didnt02:46
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Hobbseegot w32codecs?02:46
Ben1984where would i find those?02:47
Hobbsee!w32codecs02:48
ubotuI heard w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)02:48
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Ben1984i think i have breezy02:49
Hobbseedo you have a pretty splash screen while it boots, or rolling black text?02:49
aftertafvim /etc/apt/sources.list02:50
aftertaflol Hobbsee 02:50
Hobbseeor that lol02:50
Hobbseei suppose that istn a great question, as some point dont get the splash screen02:50
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aftertafreplace hoary* with breezy* on every line02:50
Hobbseei've never minded the rolling black text02:50
aftertafme neithr. looks pro :)02:50
Ben1984i have a splash02:51
Hobbseefar better than that other OS with blue bars that just go zooming over the screen, and more zooming, and more zooming, without end02:51
Hobbseethen you have breezy :P02:51
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Ben19845.10 Breezy Badger02:51
hussamanybody knows why is kde 3.4.3 in breezy missing kdebase 3.4.3?02:51
aftertafBen1984:  hehe02:51
Ben1984:)02:51
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Ben1984how do i find out what KDE i have02:52
Ben1984lol02:52
aftertafme too...02:52
Hobbseehelp, about kde02:53
Hobbseefrom any of the kde apps02:53
Ben1984nevermind02:53
Ben19843.4.302:53
Hobbseewhat changed between 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 - anything interesting, that we're missing out on?02:53
hussamRiddell: Hi, is kdebase 3.4.3 intentionally left out of breezy?02:54
Ben1984lol02:54
Ben1984like i would know02:54
Hobbseegood point02:54
Ben1984oh yeah i have a question02:55
Ben1984on the boot loader02:55
Ben1984i guess my kernel upgraded...now i have 2 linux spots?02:55
Ben1984how do i get it back to just one02:55
Riddellhussam: working on it now02:55
aftertafBen1984:  you dont really need to. leave the 386 one for emergencies, 02:56
Hobbseecomment out the older kernel if you really want to02:56
Ben1984they are both 38602:56
hussamRiddell: Thank you. Can't wait. 3 more days to go for Breezy final.02:56
aftertafRiddell:  another point..... we still have the kttsd file dependencies when upgrading, leading to a broken pipe and dpkg -i --force-overwrite02:57
aftertafBen1984:  whats your machine proc?02:57
Ben1984P402:57
aftertafok. get the linux-686 package installed.02:58
aftertafwhats your gfx card?02:58
Ben1984ATI Radeon 920002:58
Ben1984i dunno if thats even working02:58
Ben1984lol02:58
aftertafthe -386 kernel is a general 'works on all' kernel which lets you run linux on any machine.02:58
Hobbseewow!02:59
Hobbseemost people who answered this thread on ubuntuforums.org are from europe, and not the US02:59
Hobbseethat's a change from usual!02:59
Ben1984i have a P4 2.0GHz on this computer02:59
Ben1984Gawd, i wish my folder view would stay the same!!!03:01
hussamWill KDE 4 still run a 1.0 Ghz Pentium 3 with 384MB ram +( Nvidia geforce 5200 128MB ) or will I need a new PC for that?03:01
Riddellhussam: Qt 4 is faster than qt 303:02
Riddellaftertaf: arg, where's that?03:02
aftertafwith kdebase -vs- kttsd03:02
hussamRiddell: Wow, that's excellent.03:02
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aftertaf"it broke my pipe, but it got better"03:03
HobbseeROFL!03:04
aftertafhehehe03:04
Hobbseei can just imagine you saying that, monty python style03:04
Riddellaftertaf: do you have the exact error?03:04
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Hobbseeahem03:05
aftertafRiddell:  it was on my pc last night at home....03:05
Riddellaftertaf: this is 3.4 or 3.5?03:05
aftertafbut it is to do with the png files for kttsd   (3.5)03:05
vieirarHi when I start Konsole the directory path is not my ~/ directory. I am not sure how this changed, how can I set it back to ~/03:05
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Riddellah, 3.5 I don't care about today I'm afraid03:06
aftertafdoing both work pcs now, ill see if same happens03:06
asraniel10.10.2005 12:41:10localhostkernel[4299087.567000]  usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -7103:06
asranielwhen i want to compile a app, i get this error in ./configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables03:06
Riddelltoday is 3.4.3 care day03:06
aftertaflol Riddell :)   i understand why ;)03:06
asraniel*ups, that wasent supposed to end here.. well, if someone knows the error, tell me :-)03:06
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aftertafasraniel:  sudo apt-get install build-essential03:07
Ben1984hmmm03:10
Ben1984none of th emedia players work03:10
Ben1984great!03:10
asranielaftertaf: nice, works great :-) i like kubuntu...03:11
Ben1984Missing GStreamer-registry! Did you forget to run <b>gst-register</b> (as root) after installation?03:11
Ben1984thats what i am getting...03:11
Kamping_Kaiserdid you run it?03:11
Ben1984I want to say "No, because no one ever told me to run it!!!03:11
Hobbseegst-register-0.803:12
Hobbseein a console03:12
Ben1984it did something03:13
aftertaflooool03:13
Ben1984ok...now this: There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins03:13
aftertafit did something. I SO know that feeling :)03:13
Hobbseelol yeah03:13
Ben1984:sigh:03:13
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Hobbseesudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins - those the ones you needed?03:14
Ben1984Package gstreamer0.8-plugins is not available, but is referred to by another pac                 kage.03:15
Ben1984This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:15
Ben1984is only available from another source03:15
Hobbseeugh, that's moved too, or is it in multiverse?03:15
Ben1984hmm it beats me03:15
aftertaf!info gstreamer0.8plugins03:16
bobuseHi there ! How install kubuntu with a floppy drive and net access ?03:16
aftertaf!info gstreamer0.8-plugins03:16
ubotugstreamer0.8-plugins: (All GStreamer plugins), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 56 kB03:16
Ben1984should i just install all the g-streamer apps in the package manager03:16
aftertafuniverse03:17
Ben1984universe?03:17
Ben1984We come in peace?03:17
aftertafchoose the plugins one, its a metapackage03:18
aftertaflol03:19
Ben1984?03:19
Ben1984none have 'plugins' behind them03:19
Ben1984what's xchat03:19
Ben1984omg they have GAIM in th elist03:19
Ben1984w00t!03:19
aftertafirc client03:19
aftertafw00t!!!03:19
Ben1984way better than this kopete crap03:19
aftertafben, do you have universe enabled?03:19
aftertafmatter of opinion...03:20
Hobbseelol03:20
Hobbseedefinetly a matter of opinion03:20
aftertafkopete in 3.5 will do everything except make coffee (need version 4 for that)03:20
HobbseeLOL: it hasnt figured out how to integrate with the fridge to bring me a can of coke either03:21
Ben1984universe?03:21
Ben1984how do i enable it03:21
Ben1984LOL03:21
aftertafdamn open source :)03:21
aftertaf!repos03:21
ubotuwell, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)03:21
aftertaf^^^  Ben1984 03:21
aftertafbasically, add universe and multiverse to the end of each sources line in breezy.03:22
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aftertafwiki!!!!03:22
Hobbseewiki?  what about it?03:22
dipnlikhi all. installed skype from the official site, but had to use -f. now apt gives me this error every time: skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed. (or something like that) now i can't install anything. any ideas?03:23
aftertafmy sources.list:03:23
aftertafdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe multiverse03:23
aftertafdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-updates main restricted  universe multiverse03:23
aftertafdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-security main restricted  universe multiverse03:23
aftertafdeb http://kubuntu.org/kde35beta1 breezy main03:23
aftertaf4 lines, short and sweet.03:24
aftertaf!cigarette03:24
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)03:24
aftertaffor real this time03:24
aftertafbrb03:24
phoenixbyrd!sex03:24
ubotuphoenixbyrd: I don't know03:24
phoenixbyrd:O03:24
Hobbseelol...funny, i didnt think the bot would know that one03:25
Ben1984i'm lost03:25
Ben1984lol03:25
aftertafphoenixbyrd:  try again ;)03:25
phoenixbyrd!sex03:25
ubotuhmm... sex is OK, but not with you, phoenixbyrd03:25
phoenixbyrd:O :O03:25
Hobbseehehe03:25
aftertafrofl03:25
hussam!botabuse03:25
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.03:25
aftertafBen1984:  use nano to edit the sources.list file03:25
aftertafBen1984:  or synaptic to edit them directly.03:25
phoenixbyrdpfft, I ain't "playing" with you now!03:25
Ben1984where is synaptic??03:26
Ben1984i have a'kynaptic'03:26
aftertafsudo apt-get synaptic03:26
phoenixbyrdsame thing03:26
aftertafits not strictly kde (ie not at all) but adept has a bug for editing the repositories03:26
aftertafbrb really......03:26
mornfallaftertaf: what bug?03:27
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Ben1984E: Invalid operation synaptic03:27
Ben1984can i do it with adept03:27
hussamBen1984: that's sudo apt-get install synaptic ( you missed "install" )03:28
Hobbseeyou can edit it with kwrite if you prefer...03:28
Ben1984<aftertaf> sudo apt-get synaptic03:29
Ben1984thats what you typed03:29
Ben1984thats what i entered03:29
Ben1984ok finished03:30
phoenixbyrdinstalling vmware is fun stuff03:31
phoenixbyrdtried it MY way.... boy was I wrong :/03:31
Hobbseehehehehe03:31
Hobbseewhat, RTFM is overrated, you say?03:31
Hobbseein most cases it is, i know03:32
phoenixbyrdit is! it's so much more fun MY way!03:32
HobbseeLOL03:32
Hobbseeof course it is03:32
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Hobbseeuntil it doesnt work03:32
phoenixbyrdyea :/03:33
bobuseHow can I upgrade from Hoary to Breezy (RC) ? without CD03:35
aftertafdamn damn damn.03:35
aftertafmornfall:  did you get the repository bug thing fixed?03:36
mornfallaftertaf: which one?03:36
aftertaflol03:36
mornfallaftertaf: the cd one?03:36
Ben1984ok its downloading the universe03:36
Ben1984:P03:36
mornfallaftertaf: or one i don't yet know about?03:36
aftertafthe one where you couldnt add the miltiverse part of the deb line.03:36
aftertafi did metion it (tho not via bugzilla)03:36
aftertafBen1984:  edit sources.list....03:37
aftertafand i forgot sth in that line, i am sorry i do that all the time, even when typing the command on my pc.03:37
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aftertafBen1984:  type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list03:37
Ben1984i was just about to ask..lol03:37
aftertafi havent yet tested adept 1.0 for that bug.03:37
Hobbseebobuse: !upgrade2breezy03:38
aftertafmornfall:  and i use adept on 3 pcs now ;)03:38
mornfallaftertaf: hmm, that should be fixed yes03:38
Hobbsee!tell bobuse about upgrade2breezy03:38
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mornfalli have a good side?03:38
Ben1984ok...now what..03:38
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aftertafBen1984:  you edit sources list and on each deb http://      line you add the words universe and multiverse03:39
Ben1984its already there03:39
aftertafthen you type sudo apt-get update, followed by sudo apt-get install adept :)03:39
Ben1984i told you i just installed them from synaptic :P03:39
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aftertafhave any more kde 3.5 packages been released since the initial beta release in september?03:40
aftertafBen1984:  good thing...... now download adept (and save my skin) ;)03:40
Hobbseeaftertaf: you should have gotten updates for them a day or so ago03:41
aftertafmornfall:  i am at work...... it was the weekend :)03:41
aftertafdist-upgrade has been running on both machines since around 10 this morning (ie 6 hours)03:41
Hobbseeah ok03:42
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aftertaf:)03:42
mornfallit was doing what?03:42
mornfallyou are on a 56k modem?03:42
Ben1984i added multiverse03:42
Ben1984how do i save this in nano03:42
aftertafmornfall:  feels like it.... :)      i'm on a T1 at work, tat is saturated cos of the social plan they have put in place03:42
phoenixbyrdHEEEEEEEEEEELP!03:42
phoenixbyrdWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running03:43
phoenixbyrdkernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 03:43
phoenixbyrdvmware says that03:43
aftertaf(ie 3/4 of people are geoing to be made redundant and are surfing for new jobs all day long)03:43
nikkiaaftertaf: social plan == let everyone download porn ? :)03:43
aftertaflol :)03:43
aftertafprobably03:43
nikkiawe have a crappy 512k connection at work, which is often saturated when the 'people upstairs' (ie, semi-management) are on the web :/03:44
aftertafBen1984:  you got both universe and multverse? and youve done update?03:44
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nikkiaits gotten so bad i use my personal web-space to supply software to customers03:44
aftertaflol03:44
nikkiaaftertaf: well, it boils down to: saturated 512kbps connection with local ftp server, or non-saturated OC-12 with a 20-40 minute delay in having to upload03:45
Ben1984i have universe03:46
Ben1984multiverse wasnt on the list03:46
Ben1984getting the plugins now03:46
aftertafyou can put multiverse too.....03:47
aftertafmore un to be had03:47
aftertaf*fun03:47
Ben1984yay more games!03:47
aftertafexact ;)03:47
aftertaffrozen bubble03:47
Hobbseelol03:47
Hobbseepingus and planetpenguin-racer03:48
Hobbseeand tuxkart, of course03:48
Ben1984ok...yes it works!03:48
Hobbsee:D03:49
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Toma-when entering a root password for say kynaptic or synaptic, shouldnt the root password dialog box keep focus?03:50
Ben1984ahhh...music03:51
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Hobbseekeep focus?03:51
Toma-asin, all keyboard typing is in there03:51
Toma-umm03:51
Hobbseeyeah, it should03:51
Hobbseeunless another window opens after it03:51
Toma-i can get the dialog up, then change to another window and type still03:51
Toma-should i file a bug?03:52
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robin_2is there a quick work-around to get flash working on my 64-bit kubuntu ?03:53
robin_2is it easy to install a 32-bit version of firefox?03:54
aftertafdepends on window manager config.03:56
aftertaffor focus^^^03:56
Toma-kwin ;)03:56
Toma-but for something like root dialogs, shouldnt it be controlled by ksudo?03:56
Toma-or whayever it is03:57
Hobbseekdesu, you mean?03:57
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aftertaflol Ben1984 03:57
Toma-yes03:57
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Ben1984:o)03:58
Ben1984is there anyway to keep my folder views?03:58
Ben1984thats my last thing and i'll leave you guys be ....lol03:58
Toma-Settings > Save View profile03:58
Hobbseehehe03:59
Hobbseethere arent many people around anyway, so you can stay03:59
robin_2nice, the libflash just crashes firefox..03:59
Ben1984nope04:00
robin_2why the hell is it in the repositories. if it won't work.04:00
Ben1984that doesnt work04:00
Ben1984its like they save for a second and then get all scrambled again04:00
Ben1984i have class in a n hour04:00
Ben1984an*04:00
Ben1984lol04:00
Hobbseeoh fun04:00
Hobbseerobin_2: file a bug report for it?04:00
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robin_2Hobbsee: ok04:01
Hobbseeprobably the quickest way to get it fixed04:01
aftertafmy laptop is burning hot underneath...04:01
aftertafand ksensors wont work :/04:01
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aftertafprobably a good thing :)04:02
Hobbseeaftertaf: why not?04:02
aftertafdunno.04:02
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Hobbseeand how hot's your laptop, on estimatoin?04:02
aftertafi reboutid04:02
Hobbseeyou have imsensors installed?04:02
aftertafdunno....04:02
aftertafunderneath, scalding.04:02
aftertaflol04:02
Hobbseethis laptop starts at about 45c, and goes up to at least 80 when running intensive games, like sims 204:03
Hobbseetoshiba satellites are known for overheating though, which is a pity04:03
aftertafit is installed.04:03
aftertafbut does it need configging?04:03
Hobbseetry running ksensors04:03
Hobbseeand you should be able to configure from there04:04
aftertafi did, empty window04:04
Hobbseereally?04:04
Hobbseeit used to work04:04
Hobbseehmmm...another kernel update04:04
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aftertafi just get the empty window.04:05
aftertafanyway, nose off the grindstone. im off home for family fun and life :)04:05
aftertafyeah...........04:05
aftertafcatch y'all laters ;)04:05
Hobbseelol04:06
os2macwhat is adept? a replace ment for kynaptic?04:07
Hobbsee!adept04:08
ubotuAdept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html04:08
Hobbseeyeah04:08
Ben1984i like it :P04:08
mornfallBen1984: if that year in your nick is a birth-year, you are older than me! dang04:09
Ben1984< 2104:09
Ben1984oooo i like aMSN04:09
Hobbseemornfall: you'll still be older than me, i'll bet, so dont worry04:10
Ben1984looks just like the windo...um..nevermind <grin>04:10
Ben1984Hobb how old?04:10
mornfalli don't worry04:10
Hobbsee1704:11
Ben1984i can see who's deleted me from their list!!04:11
Hobbseelol04:11
Hobbseeyou can from gaim too04:11
Hobbseenot kopete thogh04:11
Ben1984ugh....oh well..some i never talk to anymore anyway04:11
Hobbseelol04:11
Hobbseenite all, it's past midnight, and the parents will get cranky soon if they see the computer light...04:11
Ben1984its 8 AM here04:12
Ben1984:P04:12
Ben1984later04:12
Ben1984thanks for your help04:12
Hobbseeno problems04:12
Hobbseei'll probably procrastinate tomorrow as well and come here lol04:12
Ben1984cool04:12
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os2mac1969I take it that adept is not on the Breezy Kubuntu Live CD?04:14
Toma-website says it is04:16
beastadept is on the live cd04:16
os2mac1969hmmm... because the only package manager I see on the menu is kynaptic04:17
beastshould be under system04:17
Toma-oooooo it has usplash! <304:17
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chris_If I have an application running on on an x server and I ssh into that box as the same user, is it possible to forward that app to the new box?04:25
Kamping_Kaiseronly if you start if from the new box afaik04:26
chris_darn.04:26
Toma-vnc would be better chris_ ....04:26
chris_I just shut the app down;) vnc isn't setup and it's a PITA to do so at this juncture;)04:27
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Toma-rightio04:28
chris_thanks for the info though.04:28
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beastanyone every get "Can't open display" when trying to run xcompmgr?04:32
Kamping_Kaiserdid you run it from a root shell/ other user shell?04:33
beasti tried both04:33
Kamping_Kaiserrun it from your shell with sudo04:35
beastyes, same04:35
Kamping_Kaiserhm... ok04:35
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ecphello04:42
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`NomadSorry if this must have been asked often I'm sure, but what is teh best way to install nvidia drivers on Breezy?  I'm just instalkling them through adept right now04:47
`Nomadis that it?04:47
Toma-yep04:48
`Nomadok, thanks :)04:48
`NomadA reboot afterwards I guess04:48
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`Nomadand any suggestion for an OS X liek docker?   ksmoothdock doesn't seem to be stable for me yet04:49
hussam`Nomad: install nvidia-glx , Linux-restricted-modules and nvidia-settings04:49
hussam`Nomad: then run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable04:49
`Nomadhussam: Great, thanks04:49
hussam`Nomad: that04:49
hussam`Nomad: that's according to http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver04:50
`Nomadthanks.. rebooting now.. I have trouble with adpet, it crashes often for me04:52
`Nomadadept, eorry. I need coffee04:52
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hussamI have a question. At the university we have fedora and there's a bootup service that allows using the mouse in cli, is that avialable for Kubuntu as well?04:53
Kamping_Kaiserthere is an app for that04:55
Kamping_Kaiseri forget the name exactly - g something04:55
mornfallgpm?04:55
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Kamping_Kaiseryeh04:57
os2machow do I tell what version of Kubuntu I am runny?04:57
hussamthanks, I'll install it now04:57
os2macanyone?05:00
hussamKamping_Kaiser, mornfall: I installed gpm. It's gotta come in handy sometime.05:01
Kamping_Kaiserlol hussam :)05:01
Kamping_Kaiseros2mac: not sure about a gui way. only a terminal05:01
os2macok I did a uname -a 05:02
os2macand it returned this05:02
sproingieos2mac: cat /etc/issue05:04
sproingieos2mac: to get the version of kde, use "about kde" in the help menu of any kde app05:04
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os2macLinux ubuntu 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Tue Aug 30 22:41:30 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux05:07
os2machttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/38912005:07
Kamping_Kaiseryour running breezy or an updated hoary05:07
os2macLinux ubuntu 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Tue Aug 30 22:41:30 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux05:07
Kamping_Kaisersame answer05:08
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os2macbecause I have had several people tell me that things are on this CD (live) that are not here... trying to make sure I am current05:08
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os2macAdept for instance...05:09
os2macI came in here earlier noticed the topic and asked what adept was... got the answer and then went looking for it in the menu and didn't see it....I had to install it from apt-get05:10
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thompai just tried kubuntu install and had some issues that i did not have in ubuntu. i am usually a kde user too05:29
Riddellthompa: what issues?05:30
thompaHi Riddell, I had network setup problems and package install problems.05:30
Riddellthompa: what were the install problems?05:31
thompathanks Riddell: i had both ubuntu and kubuntu cds. Kubuntu hung a few times on install first05:32
Riddellthompa: at what stage during install?05:32
thompawas not the disk i think, i burned a few copies all same05:32
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thompa6% base install05:32
slow-motionhallo05:33
thompai eventually just tried again and third time worked, but then i had network setup problems with wireless. not really a problem sorry05:33
thompaRiddell: how do you setup network in kubuntu?05:34
Riddellthompa: system settings->network05:35
Riddellthompa: breezy or hoary?05:35
thompai tried that and could not get my wireless to work. breezy05:35
Riddellthompa: install probdlems will mean it's a bad CD, the installer is exactly the same on ubuntu and kubuntu05:35
thompai understand that, maybe it was a bad image05:36
thompai took it directly from distrowatch and burned a few05:36
thompaRiddell: i used k3b and everything checked out. the ubuntu cds worked better though. thats why im cunfused05:37
thompaI dont mean to complain. I come from using only kde, but ubuntu setup wireless in one click on gui, is it same in kubuntu?05:38
thompaalso the fonts were worse in kubuntu and i could not manage to install packages, i hope it was the install iso only05:39
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thompaRiddell: would some of the setup functions be different in kubuntu, like network? I know the package management is. both use apt though05:45
Riddellthompa: network is setup up on install the same, then there's different configuration tools when running05:46
Riddellthompa: what didn't work about systemsettings->network?05:46
Riddellthompa: what was worse about the fonts?05:46
Riddellthompa: why couldn't you manage to install packages?05:46
thompaRiddell: first i had some graphic issues so it was hard to see, 2nd: it did not find my network cards..both wireless, one in notebook intel pro, the other here on PC.05:48
thompathe fonts seemed like they were not antialiased properly but i tried tweaking them, they seemed a little too scratchy or something05:49
thompaRiddell: what fonts are you using for menus? are they the default ones?05:50
Riddellthompa: vera05:51
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thompathats what i had05:51
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thompaRiddell: I had trouble fnding the extra repos in the package installer too, do i have to type them in manually?05:54
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kbrooksis kubuntu crippled?06:01
buzhow long will it take to create a 6 *200GB raid5 array=06:01
Kamping_Kaiserkbrooks: ??06:02
buzkbrooks: no06:02
kbrooksKamping_Kaiser: a ubuntu user claims that ubuntu sets up his pcs better 06:03
kbrooksno problems. just works06:03
buzit's the same, really06:03
Kamping_Kaisersame backend. just userland things are different06:03
buzonly that ubuntu uses gnome wheres kubuntu kde06:03
kbrooksbuz: then why was network one click for the ubuntu user in ubuntu, yet harder in kubuntu?06:04
buz?06:04
Kamping_Kaisermore then 1 click here06:04
kbrooksKamping_Kaiser: why?06:04
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buzzero click?06:04
Kamping_Kaiser2 clicks for menus, and 1 click to launch the network app06:04
buzdhcp just worked06:04
Kamping_Kaiser+setup06:04
buzmy network just worked after install06:05
kbrooks"also i could not seem to add repos as easily as here, and irc did not work so i could not get help"06:05
kbrooksthe ubuntu user said that06:05
buzyou can use the very same software on kubuntu you know06:05
rikvahe is right - synaptic is different on kubuntu with adding repos06:05
buzhuuh?06:06
kbrooksYup.06:06
buzsynaptic is synaptic no?06:06
rikvacheck the wiki06:06
kbrookskynaptic06:06
Kamping_Kaiseryeh, ill go with that (mind you, i use a cli, so i dont know [ks] ynaptic well)06:06
buzKynaptic is something else06:06
rikva<-- off to eat06:06
Kamping_Kaiserbuz: kynaptic is the kde rippoff of synaptic06:06
buzbut nothing stops you from installing synaptic (kynaptic sucks, reallY)06:06
Kamping_Kaiserand a bad one at that06:06
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buzif i know the package name, i do so06:07
buzbut often i need to figure the correct spelling first06:07
buzgui is easier for that06:07
kbrookswhy does kynaptic suck if i may ask06:07
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Kamping_Kaiseri just search a bit and grep it through another bit, missing teh hard to spell bit :)06:07
Kamping_Kaiserkbrooks: same, ;)06:08
Kamping_Kaiserits got bugger all features06:08
Kamping_Kaiserfor a start ;O06:08
buzand the ones it has are buggy06:08
buzluckily, adept is quite useable06:08
kbrooksbuz: such as?06:08
kbrookswhat's adept?06:08
buzit did weird things on my machine, anyway06:08
buzbreezy's replacement for kynaptic06:08
philipacamaniacRiddell: your 3.4.3 packages are working great for me, sorry I didn't get around to mentioning that sooner06:08
buz!adept06:08
ubotuAdept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html06:08
kbrooksok06:09
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kasimhi there, i have dependancy problems with upgradind from hoary to breezy, which i somehow can not fix manually06:11
kasimapt-get -f install does not help either06:12
kasimThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:12
kasim  adept: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not going to be installed06:12
kasim         Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.4) but it is not going to be installed06:12
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Kamping_Kaiserkasim: can you manualy install libqt3-mt?06:14
Riddellkasim: which sort of upgrade?06:14
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kasim"normal" apt-get dist-upgrade, i can not install libqt3-mt06:15
Riddellkasim: what happens when you try to install just libqt3-mt06:15
kasimroot@ubuntu:~# dpkg -i libqt3-mt06:16
kasimdpkg: error processing libqt3-mt (--install):06:16
kasim cannot access archive: No such file or directory06:16
kasimErrors were encountered while processing:06:16
kasim libqt3-mt06:16
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Riddellkasim: apt-get install libqt3-mt06:16
kasimRiddell: that gives me tons of Depends problems06:17
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Riddellkasim: paste them in kubuntu.pastebin.com06:18
kasimlike i pasted the adept: line above06:18
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kasimRiddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/38918706:20
RiddellI hate how with this sort of problem, you have to keep digging until it tells you what is the real problem06:22
Riddellkasim: I'm going to be testing hoary->breezy upgrades later today, I'll let you know how I get on06:22
kasimRiddell: I sit on a WORKING breezy and that was updated that way. with some manuall things some time ago. This new one is very tough :=(06:23
sorush20how do I make my printer in kde into a network printer.. 06:23
sorush20how can I log in as root user in kde06:23
sorush20?06:24
philipacamaniacRiddell: I have upgraded two machines from Hoary to Breezy, with minimal problems06:24
Kamping_Kaiseryou dont log in as root06:24
Kamping_Kaiseras for printer sharing, im not sure06:24
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philipacamaniacRiddell: only problems I had were having to reinstall/reconfigure usplash, and on one machine (not a fresh Hoary machine) I had to upgrade/install kubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-default-settings after the dist-upgrade.06:27
kasimshould i try --force-yes ?06:27
philipacamaniacsorush20: don't use root, use "sudo" and then the command06:28
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_pabloQuestion: Is "/boot/grub/menu.lst" the boot parameter in ubuntu?06:29
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kasim_pablo: no but you put boot parametes in here06:31
kasimat the kernel line06:31
_pabloand wer i put the command acpi=off06:31
kasimexactly there06:31
_pablois it important in which line?06:32
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philipacamaniacdamn freenode06:32
kasim_pablo: that line starting with "kernel", you have to pick your correct kernel and write acpi=off behind06:33
_pablokasim: thx very much06:33
kasimkernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-686 root=/dev/hdc3 ro quiet splash acpi=off06:33
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philipacamaniacsorush20: regarding printers. Press Alt-F2 and type kdesu kcontrol. Then go to "Internet and Network -> Samba"06:34
philipacamaniacsorush20: choose the Printers tab and you can add new printer shares06:34
kasimfolks, sorry if i insist, but i have a huge dist-upgrade problem and have no idea how to proceed. pls see http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/38918706:35
sorush20philipacamaniac: thanks so much.. 06:36
philipacamaniacsorush20: np06:36
philipacamaniackasim: what happens when you sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c206:37
kasimthe same, i have "sudo -s" btw06:37
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philipacamaniacyeah noticed that06:38
kasimshould|can  i somehow force the install?06:38
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phoenixbyrdhow do I turn dma on for my cd drive?06:40
robin_2phoenixbyrd: hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc (where hdc is your cdrom)06:40
phoenixbyrdtyty06:40
philipacamaniackasim: I notice some version weirdness. Do you have the KDE 3.4.3 repo in your sources.list?06:41
kasimyes06:41
kasimi upgraded another pc (the one im on now) to that today06:41
philipacamaniacand you haven't yet upgraded to breezy06:42
kasimall on breezy06:42
kasimon the working PC i have now a kde 3.4.206:42
kasim3.4.3 sorry06:42
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philipacamaniacbut on the pc with depend problems, you have hoary, yes?06:43
phoenixbyrdARGH! why does k3b keep hanging on me when I goto write an iso to a cd :((06:43
phoenixbyrddoes threatening an app help make it work better?06:43
libbendma on?06:43
kasimphilipacamaniac: it was hoary when i started the upgrade. i have the same source.list (official de. mirrors)06:43
phoenixbyrdyea, just turned dma on06:43
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kasimdeb     http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse06:44
philipacamaniackasim: anyway, I would try to upgrade to breezy BEFORE installing KDE 3.4.3, so remove the 3.4.3 repo out of your sources.list, update and try to upgrade again06:44
kasimbut how? i pasted above what i have in source.list06:45
philipacamaniacthat's all?06:45
philipacamaniacoh06:45
kasimi have more lines, one second ...06:46
kasimhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/38920106:46
phoenixbyrdis there a way to burn an iso from the cli?06:47
philipacamaniacso actually you're installing 3.4.2, which is correct06:47
kasimi just noticed today (upgrading the working one) that i do have 3.4.3 kde06:47
philipacamaniacphoenixbyrd: man cdrecord06:47
kasimi didn't even know there was a kde 3.4.306:48
phoenixbyrdphilipacamaniac: ty06:48
philipacamaniackasim: well, hmm06:49
philipacamaniackasim: 3.4.2 was in breezy until today I guess06:49
kasimja, must have changed very reacently. can i force to 3.4.2 somehow?06:50
philipacamaniackasim: it seems the 3.4.3 bug upgrade was merged into breezy before release06:50
philipacamaniackasim: dont think so06:50
kasimanyway, have no clue what to do now :=(06:50
philipacamaniacyeah, I'm lost06:51
philipacamaniacRiddell: why are certain packages still version 3.4.2, and some 3.4.3?06:51
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Riddellphilipacamaniac: like which?06:52
kasimagree my konqueror is still 3.4.206:52
Riddellkasim: kdebase was only updated this morning06:52
Riddellshould be 3.4.3 now06:52
kasimi was hope it to be stable since breezy is on RC level06:52
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Riddellkasim: blame the KDE release cycle06:53
pussfelleri upgraded to breezy and now getting unmet errors about libfontconfig06:53
pussfellerwhats up with that06:53
kasimpussfeller: welcome, we are just discussing that06:53
philipacamaniacRIddell: kate, for example, is 3.4.2-0ubuntu5 in the repo 06:53
Riddellphilipacamaniac: 3.4.3 will filter through soon06:53
Riddellalso kdebase06:53
pussfellerah its good not to be alone06:53
philipacamaniacexcellent, so kasim - just wait a few hours06:54
kasimphilipacamaniac: you mean, wait, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade ??06:54
philipacamaniacI believe so, yes06:55
philipacamaniacthe repos are in the process of a huge kde update06:55
Riddellyep06:55
kasimok i have no other choice anyways06:55
pussfellerso this is something that is fixed and just redo in a few hours?06:56
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kasimpussfeller: i have other dep-probs, but it seems to be related to same secret kde upgrade from 3.4.2 to 3.4.306:57
spiralhi06:58
pussfellerthis seems xorg related06:58
pussfellera dev package for libfontconfig06:58
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kasimOT: is there no such thing as transactions for the repo-servers?07:00
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poimenI thied to install kubuntu and it frezed , also mandriv and suse did but them got to install with the linux noapic option on instaltion. But kubuntu did not work with that what should I do?07:02
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Riddellpoimen: tried  acpi=off  ?07:04
poimenacpi?07:04
poimenthat is th epower management07:04
poimen?07:04
Riddellyes07:04
kasimpoimen: which kernel?07:05
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poimenthe one on the last beta before the rc07:10
kasimpoimen: uname -a will tell you07:10
poimenI am in mandriva right now07:11
poimenbtw I am downloading the rc 07:11
poimenI will try with ubuntu this time07:11
kasimpoimen: if its 2.6.11-1-686 you could try kernel option "noinotify". It freezes for me otherwise07:11
poimenok brb07:12
kasimpoimen: i take that back, could have been some older kernel,07:12
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spiralI wanna kill the devs of amaroK...07:17
spiralthey do releases anytime, and no one is ever buildable the same way...07:18
Tm_Twtf07:19
Tm_Tspiral: I compile amarok daily07:19
Tm_Tworking fine here07:19
spiralTm_T: do you do .debs ?07:19
Tm_Tno07:19
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spiralTm_T: because with debuild & so on, it's quite a mess...07:19
Tm_Toh07:20
TokenBadwell updated to breezy07:20
TokenBadand it seems faster07:20
Tm_Tspiral: so whining here doesn't help, try #amarok ;)07:20
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phoenixbyrdany good partition apps for linux?07:20
Tm_Tphoenixbyrd: fdisk, qtparted07:21
Tm_Tyes, many ;)07:21
phoenixbyrdI need to make a 10GB partition07:21
phoenixbyrdqtparted is a gui?07:21
Tm_Tyes07:21
phoenixbyrdk07:21
phoenixbyrdparted easy to use?07:22
phoenixbyrdI won't kill myself after using it?07:22
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Tm_Tyou will, it's too easy ;)07:22
phoenixbyrdlol07:22
asranielhi there. is there a way to tell dhclient that on startup it should only take the ip from the dhcp server, but keep the dns severs?07:22
kasimasraniel: dhcp is broadcast, it takes the first server answering. do i understand your question?07:23
asranielkasim: no. my problem is that my router gives me a wrong DNS server. i have to set the dns manualy in resolv.conf. but on every restart resolv.conf gets overwritten07:25
kasimasraniel: i think thats bad luck. if you had a real dhcpd-server answering you could configure07:26
asranielwell, under mandriva its possible07:26
asranielunder mandriva its just a little checkbox in the network configuration07:26
kasimyou want a sort of hybrid, take the IP form that box, and the DNS-server-entry from some other place07:27
asranielkasim: exact07:27
asranielmaking resolv.conf read only doesent change anything07:27
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kasimI have ipcop as "real" dhcpd-server to hand out IPs and the nameserver-entry, but i dont know how to make dhclient to select on parts07:28
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kasimasraniel: you cant tell the box to give the correct DNS, you can pass multiple DNS-servers too07:29
matrixhi i like to install kzenexplorer but it complayns that no libnjb4 is available07:30
asranielkasim: i cant change the DNS that my router gives, its fix, tried it many times07:31
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elvirolohi all07:32
OculusAquilaehi elvirolo07:32
elvirolois there a way of installing the whole of KDE 3.5 beta 1 (excluding compitation) ?07:32
kasimasraniel: sorry, dont know more. if the network is small and stable, i'd use static IPs07:32
asranielthen the router wont route me because he only routes IP's he gave via dhcp07:34
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matrixi only see libnjb5 in the directory tree, but dont know how to make kzenexplorer use it07:36
elviroloplease, ideas anyone?07:36
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robin_2hmm, I don't know what they did, but if connect my usbstick, konqueror opens two windows with media:/sde1 (while it is in fact mounted at media:/usbstick) and if i reconnect, it open media:/sdf1 (while it is again mounted at media:/usbstick)..07:45
robin_2didn't happen when I installed RC1 a couple a days ago.07:45
robin_2another thing, If I use kaffeine with xine-engine.. it crashes when I click on the folder icon (to open another file) while it is playing a movie.07:46
elviroloi'm experiencing both your probs robin_2 07:47
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Nakkelany ideas how to get 5.1 sound out in kubuntu? front, rear and subwoofer are working fine but I get no sound from my center speaker07:49
robin_2elvirolo: did you report it on bugzilla?07:49
elvirolorobin_2, no but i'm sure many people have cause there are many threads on that topic in the forum07:50
robin_2elvirolo: ok, I will check the forums.07:50
robin_2another problem is that if I use xine with xine-ui, it crashes when I go to fullscreen. some glibc error about double free()..07:51
Octaneare there any kde 3.5 packages for amd64?07:53
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pussfellerso is using apt-get -f going to mess things up over these libfontconfig dep issues?08:01
TokenBadafter updating to breezy08:04
TokenBaddo I need to reinstall nvidia drivers?08:05
TokenBadcause now screensavers that need opengl aren't working08:05
TokenBadwhen they did before08:05
The_VoxTokenBad: your kernel changed, so...yes08:06
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TokenBadok how should I do that08:07
TokenBaddownload from nvidia site?08:07
TokenBadcause before i did it through apt-get08:07
satafterhhad kde and gnone installed, getting rid of gnome, does kubuntu need gnome-panel08:07
The_Voxsatafterh: no08:08
satafterhthanks08:08
The_VoxTokenBad: did you check your xorg.conf file?08:08
The_VoxTokenBad: because if you did it with apt before, it should have been updated when you updated to breezy08:08
TokenBadcheck it for what?08:09
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The_VoxTokenBad: that it's still loading the nvidia driver...it may have been moded during the upgrade and it's just not loading the driver08:14
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Octaneare there any devs here08:15
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TokenBadection "Device"08:17
TokenBad        Identifier      "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700 LE] "08:17
TokenBad        Driver          "nv"08:17
TokenBad        BusID           "PCI:2:0:0"08:17
The_VoxTokenBad: it's not loading the nvidia driver, it's loading the nv driver, which doesn't have 3d accel08:18
The_VoxTokenBad: change the "nv" to "nvidia" and restart X...it should work08:18
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Flying_Eaglehi08:22
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Flying_Eaglei did sth (almost) stupid. i wanted to move my _complete_ home-dir from hoary to breezy. this actually doesnt work...08:23
Flying_Eaglewhere is the skelleton used, when creating a new user08:23
Flying_Eagle?08:23
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TokenBadno dice08:26
TokenBadstill not work08:26
The_VoxFlying_Eagle: /etc/skel08:26
Flying_Eaglethanks, The_Vox 08:26
The_VoxTokenBad: you changed the nv to nvidia?08:26
TokenBadyes08:27
The_VoxTokenBad: and is the nvidia module loaded?08:27
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TokenBadI logged out08:27
TokenBadand reloaded08:27
The_Voxtype: lsmod | grep nvidia08:27
TokenBadnvidia_agp              7964  108:28
TokenBadnvidia               3711364  008:28
TokenBadagpgart                32328  2 nvidia_agp,nvidia08:28
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The_VoxTokenBad: uhm....that should be working...you certain that you changed the nv to nvidia?08:29
vicksanyone know how the status on the effort to port firefox to qt?08:30
TokenBadyes08:30
TokenBadI am looking at the file now08:30
libbenhttp://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,711332,00.html08:30
TokenBadSection "Device"08:30
TokenBad        Identifier      "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700 LE] "08:30
TokenBad        Driver          "nvidia"08:30
TokenBad        BusID           "PCI:2:0:0"08:30
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The_VoxTokenBad: I don't understand what's going on...it should be working08:31
TokenBadwell doing some research online08:31
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TokenBadand seems I am not the only one08:31
Rogue_Jedi_XIt must be those crazy cyber-monkey again08:31
TokenBadand there seems to have been a long drawn out proccess08:32
TokenBadlike regetting the drivers from the nvidia site08:33
TokenBadthen doing some other crap08:33
TokenBadnow if I get the drivers from the nvida site08:33
TokenBadwhich ones do I get08:33
The_Voxthe latest i386 ones08:34
TokenBadok08:36
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TokenBadnow how install08:36
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StRHi all!08:39
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TokenBadok08:41
TokenBadI tried what it said08:41
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TokenBadabout ctrl-alt-f108:41
TokenBadand login08:41
TokenBadbut it complains about me running an X server08:41
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m0ns00nWhy doesn't the nvidia glx drivers suddenly work with RenderAccel in Breezy?08:42
m0ns00nThis is the legacy drivers08:42
m0ns00n(the nvidia-glx package obviously doesn't work ;-)08:42
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`NomadNew Breezy install.. Can't handle mp3s.  What is needed, mpeglib ?08:48
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inc|freakymy linux cant handle all mp3s which windows can handle there seem to be some codecs missing08:49
inc|freakysome not really legal ones08:49
inc|freakycant find any website08:49
inc|freakythat sucks ^^ 08:49
inc|freakyall my nice mp3s08:49
marsWhere in de can i change resolution of the screen? I cant find it08:49
`Nomadinc: It will handle it, we just need to have teh proper softwares installed..08:50
robin_2inc|freaky: you have installed the packages that are mentioned here: aknode, and gstreamer-mad08:50
`Nomadmars:  Right-click on teh desktop, choose "configure Desktop", and then pick Display on teh left08:50
inc|freakyapt-get cant find aknode08:50
RezDawg|If Im running a AMD 2500+ cpu can I installed 686 kernel?08:51
robin_2inc|freaky: hmm i'm spelling it incorrectly..08:51
robin_2inc|freaky: wait a sec.08:51
naliothinc|freaky: then those mp3s are nonstandard08:51
inc|freakyawkay ;D08:51
inc|freakynalioth: yes tahts right thats my problem ;)08:51
naliothinc|freaky: nonstandard is evil08:51
inc|freakynalioth: im evil wooh ;D08:52
inc|freakyjust wanna listen to my mp3s ;)08:52
naliothinc|freaky: dont buy DRM'd mp3s08:52
robin_2inc|freaky: anyway you installed gstreamer-mad/08:52
inc|freakyrobin_: yes i did ;)08:52
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robin_2inc|freaky: and it still won't work08:52
inc|freakyno :(08:52
inc|freakysome mp3s work though08:52
inc|freakymost work08:52
inc|freakyjust some not08:53
robin_2inc|freaky: hmm, what so special about those ones?08:53
inc|freakyi downloaded them using kazaa ;D08:53
robin_2inc|freaky:  so they are fucked up08:53
inc|freakyin windows they work :D08:53
robin_2inc|freaky: oh ok.08:53
inc|freakyi installed kazaa codec pack in windows though08:54
inc|freakydunno if that exists for linux brb, looking08:54
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marsI installed my new kubuntu, cause i had to format my disk, Can somebody send me own sources.list file ? To my mail?08:55
inc|freakyno doesnt :(08:55
robin_2inc|freaky: oh yeah akode was it.. 08:55
inc|freakyawkay will downlaod it 08:55
inc|freakyumm, install ;D08:55
mornfallkasim: you may want to try aptitude dist-upgrade08:56
inc|freakygot akode installed08:56
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mornfallkasim: it will get it "more right", usually08:56
mornfallkasim: (but you may need breezy version of it, first)08:56
robin_2inc|freaky: anyway I haven't had any problems playing mp3's.. and those are mostly download from newsgroups. :)08:56
puckmanweird08:56
inc|freakyhm :\08:56
mornfallkasim: (so first apt-get install apt aptitude) or somesuch08:56
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puckmanafter having used ubuntu 5.04 for ages08:57
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kasimmornfall: i always used apt-get, why try somthing else its a frontend to dpkg08:57
mornfallkasim: aptitude is an libapt-pkg frontend that improves on the apt algorithms somewhat08:58
mornfallkasim: so why not08:58
kasimmornfall: so honestly because everything is difficult enought with new stuff08:58
kasims/with/without08:58
mornfallkasim: hmm, why you ask for a hint if you refuse to listen, then?08:59
puckmanDoes anyone know what the status is of the admin bug?08:59
puckmanI mean, where most of the time you cant get into administrator mode to change configurations.08:59
kasimmornfall: came on mornfall, if i go for a new thing, i have more troubes usually. apt-get is (imho) the default for ubuntu09:00
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mornfallkasim: *shrug* i'd assume that since apt can't handle it (obviously) you would try something with better chances of succeeding =)09:01
kasimis your aptitude a CLI tool?09:01
phanterhello, I just migrated from ubuntu to kubuntu. works great!09:01
Chousukekasim: aptitude is default :/09:02
Chousukeor either of them, really.09:02
kasimmornfall: since i cant install anything it wont be easier with a new frontend. ok lets see what i get ...09:02
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phanterhow can I startup a program automaticly after I login in kde09:03
spiralphanter: ~/.kde/Autostart09:04
phanter<spiral> oke, thanks. There is no program (GUI) who can do this job ?09:05
spiralphanter: dunno, but it's not that hard, you just have to put a shortcut or script there...09:05
spiralmaybe there's a gui, but I've been doing this way for years09:06
phanterspiral: how do I make a shortcut?09:06
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spiralphanter: you can either put a symlink, create a script, or drag & drop a shortcut from let's say the k menu in this folder09:07
phanterspiral: I found it.... wow that kde works great (I used gnome for a couple of years, but now I am impressed)09:07
spiral:-)09:07
`Nomadlol09:07
`NomadKDE rules09:08
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kalenedraelYes, KDE is nice.09:09
marsNo09:09
marsKDE is not nice09:09
marsKDE is the best :)09:09
kalenedraelYes, it is.09:10
phanterif I switch between desktops I still see the desktop-click-buttons-for-running-programs from programs that are active in an other desktop. How can I change this?09:10
robin_2phanter: yeah gnome looks obsolete09:10
kalenedraelYou go to the control center09:10
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phanterkalenedrael: system settings ?09:10
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kalenedraelI dunno, I'm checking.09:10
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TokenBadok09:11
TokenBadquestion09:11
TokenBadwhen I updated breezy09:11
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TokenBadit installed gnome09:11
TokenBadso now can boot into gnome and kde09:11
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TokenBadin gnome I can use my open gl graphics09:12
kalenedraelControl center -> Taskbar09:12
kalenedraelErr...09:12
kalenedraelControl center -> Desktop -> Taskbar09:12
TokenBadI boot into KDE09:12
TokenBadand it can't09:12
TokenBadany idea's on this?09:12
kalenedraelUn-check 'Show windows from all desktops'09:12
TokenBadI want to use KDE09:12
TokenBadbut it will not use open GL09:12
phanterkalenedrael: I do not find the control center. Where can I find it or should i install it?09:12
kalenedraelTokenBad, what driver are you using?09:12
TokenBadnvidia09:12
kalenedraelphanter, type 'kcontrol' at a console.09:13
TokenBador so the x conf file says09:13
kalenedraelTokenBad, will X start at all, or is it just OpenGL that won't work?09:13
TokenBadkalenedrael, not sure09:13
TokenBadthink its opengl09:13
kalenedraelI suggest reinstalling the drivers.09:13
TokenBadcause when tried to reinstall the nvidia drivers09:13
TokenBadit says can't cause X is running09:13
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kasimmornfall: as expected, i cant install anything, with my broken installation including aptitude :=(09:14
kalenedraelTokenBad, stop X then :P09:15
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TokenBadkalenedrael, how?09:15
TokenBadhaven't stopped it before09:15
kalenedraelYou use kde, right?09:15
TokenBadwell in gnome right now09:15
TokenBadbut want to use kde09:15
TokenBadif need to will boot back into kde09:15
TokenBadcause I was testing to see if open gl worked in gnome09:16
kalenedraelOk, hit ctrl-alt-f2 to go to a full-screen console. Log in, then type 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'09:16
TokenBadwhich it does09:16
kalenedraelHit alt-f7 to go back to X.09:16
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kalenedrael(Er, well, X won't be running if you stop it.)09:16
jrattner1I want breezy's wireless and bluetooth support09:16
TokenBadok I did that09:16
TokenBadand it told me it was still running09:16
kalenedraelUmm, odd.09:16
kalenedraelAre you running kdm or gdm?09:17
TokenBadmean before now anyway09:17
TokenBadwell before it was prob kdm09:17
TokenBadwhich is prob why it didn't work09:17
TokenBadheheh09:17
kalenedraelOk.09:17
TokenBadlet me try now09:17
TokenBadwith gdm09:17
TokenBadsince in gnome now09:17
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FireBurnUKHi09:22
TokenBadok got it to go further this time09:22
FireBurnUKA quick question for those in the know09:22
TokenBadbut says something about the kernal09:22
TokenBadso assume need the headers09:22
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FireBurnUKDoes kubuntu support bluetooth input device out the box like ubuntu advertises?09:22
TokenBadwhats the file name for the headers?09:23
TokenBadfor the kernal?09:23
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crimsunlinux-headers-$(uname -r) is the package name.09:24
TokenBadthanks crimsun09:25
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marsHow to install deb files?09:26
epztapt-get install ...09:27
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mars?09:29
marsyes09:29
marsbut there is somethibg wrong with my respositories09:29
marsdo i downloadefd opera.deb09:29
marshow can i intall it?09:29
marsinstall**09:29
crimsunsudo dpkg -i opera....deb09:29
crimsunreplace "opera....deb" with the actual filename09:30
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elcucoRiddell, here?09:30
marsok thanks09:31
elcucoquestion to the channel:09:31
elcucohttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1728709:31
elcucois this as kubuntu bug or kde bug?09:32
spiralhmmm... please... does anyone know why gpg insults me about gpgme since I upgraded to kmail 3.4.3 via apt ?09:32
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TokenBadok09:34
TokenBadI got the headers09:34
TokenBadand tried to install the nvidia drivers09:34
TokenBadand says there is no linux kernal or something09:34
TokenBadand ask to try and get from their site09:34
TokenBadand says can't find it09:34
TokenBadany info on this?09:34
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TokenBadumm09:35
TokenBadall of a sudden my open gl stuff is working09:36
naliothTokenBad: get linux-source to match your kernel09:36
TokenBadyeah09:36
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sorush20why do I keep getting access denied when I try to delete my files that are on my user space and not the root user space.. 09:40
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robin_2sorush20: the files aren't opened by any program?09:41
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naliothsorush20: who deleted them?09:42
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SMiLeafHi, I'm getting a seg fault while shutting down.09:48
SMiLeafand there is alot to type.. but it has to do with halt09:49
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kasimmornfall: seems to go better now. I deleted kaffeeine.mo package with --force-depends, could then do a apt-get -f install and can now upgrade to breezy09:53
libbenhttp://www.framestore-cfc.com/press/05pr/051003noitulove/amv_gune339_050_qt.mov09:54
sorush20nalioth: no one deleted them I just keep getting access denied.. I don't understand why...? 09:57
naliothsorush20: run "ls -l filename" on them and see who owns them09:57
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sorush20nalioth: I could just right click on them and find out the owner by the permission sections button right.., well I've done that I get me sam as the user.. so what now.. 10:01
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sorush20here is what I get for the file that I'm trying to get rid of.. -rw-are--are--   1 sam  sam       25414 2005-10-10 20:11 merkel.jpg10:03
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MustafaTemizelHey! Pls write your comments ! > http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3003710:04
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naliothsorush20: can you delete them usin sudo?10:04
libbenhttp://www.yuretz.ru/prikol.php?id=47110:05
TedLemonIs anybody successfully using SMTP+SSL with kmail?10:05
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robin_2MustafaTemizel: it's only a button?10:06
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MustafaTemizel:)10:06
MustafaTemizelyeah10:06
MustafaTemizeland kkicker bacground10:06
MustafaTemizelbackground10:06
robin_2MustafaTemizel: hmm, well I like the default one. sry :)10:07
MustafaTemizelrobin_2: :))10:07
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sorush20nalioth: it is possible to delete using sudo konqueror.. but that seems very stupid... I don't know what the hell has happened.. 10:07
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Abysmalhow hard is it to convert a umbutu system to kubuntu??10:12
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naliothsorush20: it is not advised to open kde gui apps with root powers. if you desire to do it, type "kdese konqueror"10:14
naliothAbysmal: by typing "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"     pretty easy, eh?10:14
hussamAbysmal: not sure about removing gnome but sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should give you all kubuntu packages.10:14
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Abysmalthanks...10:17
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MustafaTemizelWhat is Edubuntu's default desktop? Gnome or KDE?10:18
Riddellgnome10:18
MustafaTemizelthx Riddell 10:18
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MustafaTemizelI am finding Linspire Clear window style for Kubuntu10:19
robin_2anyone problems with kdeveloper designer ? It crashes immediatly when I try to run it.10:19
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Rev-Marchow and where can I download KOffice, as a .deb as I know nothing about installing source files?10:20
MustafaTemizelrobin_2:  I dont use it10:20
robin_2MustafaTemizel: ok.10:20
MustafaTemizelRev-Marc: packages.ubuntu.com10:20
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Rev-MarcI will try that10:21
robin_2Rev-Marc: you can install it also with adept.10:21
SMiLeafreally needs to be an easier way to copy crashes on shutdown to a file :)10:21
MustafaTemizelyeah. adept is very useful10:21
MustafaTemizeleasier than kynaptic10:21
SMiLeafhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/38943510:21
robin_2ye10:21
robin_2s10:21
Rev-Marcwhat is adept?10:22
SMiLeafI think it has something to do with the fact that my mobo/cpu or something has a known problem with something to do with acpi or w/e .. I saw that error in 1 install I did10:22
robin_2Rev-Marc: new package manager in 5.10 (breeze).. it's a kde frontend to apt.10:22
MustafaTemizel5.10 RC10:22
robin_2SMiLeaf: apm problems i think10:22
SMiLeafrobin_2: yah10:22
robin_2SMiLeaf: you can turn off apm with a kernel option I think.10:23
SMiLeafapm=off was it?10:23
MustafaTemizelI am finding Linspire Clear window style deb package!!10:23
robin_2SMiLeaf: thought so, but you can lookup it up in the Documentation in the kernel source.10:23
Rev-MarcI found adept and put in KOffice and it found nothing10:24
MustafaTemizelbye10:24
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SMiLeafrobin_2: yup .. apm=off10:26
umberleighhi. does anyone know when final release date of kubuntu breezy is?10:27
naliothumberleigh: oct 1310:28
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SMiLeafumm.. where is the grub config?..10:29
umberleighthe same as the main ubuntu release then :)10:29
SMiLeafoh duh.. I see it .. sorry10:29
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TedLemonHas anybody seen this error in kmail: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'smtps'.?10:32
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SMiLeafrobin_2: no effect. still halt still seg faults on power off.. it's fine for a reboot tho.10:35
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SMiLeafcall stack is twice as long tho :)10:36
TokenBadhow many lang does kubuntu support10:36
TokenBadmeaning how many lang packages does it come with by default10:37
SMiLeafmaybe I'll just compile my own kernel :/10:37
SMiLeafstill gotta figure out my audio card irq issue :)10:38
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SMiLeafanyone know how to do that?10:39
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bjornieHey, I'm trying to listen to MP3 in my new Kubuntu installation, but it doesn't work... Kaffeine says I don't have the right codecs, but as far as I know gstreamer is all I would really need?!10:42
SMiLeafgstreamer I think is split up into seperate plugins.10:45
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bjornieYes, but I've installed gstreamer0.8-plugin from the resp... I've installed the -mad as well. Nothing seems to work10:46
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robin_2what is the best way to report bugs, bugzilla.ubuntu.com or launchpad.net ?10:59
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Riddellrobin_2: bugzilla for main, launchpad for universe11:03
Riddellfor the moment anyway11:03
robin_2Riddell: okay11:03
robin_2hmm, than I have to report my bug about kaffeine again on bugzilla.11:04
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inc|freakygood night all ;D11:04
robin_2Riddell: thx.11:04
robin_2cya11:05
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lippelhi11:14
lippeli use openoffice2 beta from breezy, and the font it uses is somewhat broken11:14
lippelhttp://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~f_osterf/temp/broken-oocalc.png11:14
lippellook at the "r"11:14
lippelanyone around with the same problem?11:15
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orugohey11:15
orugohow do i mount my windows partition in kubuntu?11:15
naliothubotu: tell orugo about mountwindows11:16
naliothubotu: tell orugo about windowsdrives11:16
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orugohey11:17
orugoubotu rulez!!!11:17
ubotuorugo: I haven't a clue11:17
orugoahahaha11:17
orugoreally good!11:17
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orugohey i will ask a stupid question11:19
orugowhats my root password?????????????'11:19
orugoahahah11:19
naliothorugo: make it REALLY stupid11:19
naliothubotu: tell orugo about root11:19
orugohahaah11:19
orugohey11:19
orugowho made ubotu?11:20
orugoits REALLY good11:20
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slow-motionn811:21
naliothorugo: ubotu is a blootbot11:21
orugoi know that its a bot but what is a BLOOTbot?11:23
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naliothorugo: open a terminal and type "apt-cache show blootbot"11:24
orugoi dont have the package :(11:24
orugo(ubotu solved my problem!!!!!!!!!)11:25
orugohaha11:25
orugoit rulez11:25
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TokenBad#  2005-10-02: 55 CDs (sent to shipping company)  11:31
TokenBadYES!!11:31
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orugohey11:36
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orugotheres something like XKILL in kubuntu?11:36
orugokilling applications11:36
neemahey everyone, im new to kubuntu.... just messin around with it on my ibook11:38
Blissexorugo: you can use 'top' or 'htop' to see apps and kill them11:38
neemawanted to know if there is any other desktop environments i should check out?11:39
neemais fluxbox any good?11:39
Blissexneema: it is not an environment, it is a (minimalistic) window manager.11:40
Blissexneema: it is pretty good, also look at OpenBox for nice window managers.11:40
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Blissexneema: The other ''major'' desktop environment is XFCE, and there is a new Ubuntu subprojects, Xubuntu, to deliver an XFCE based Ubuntu.11:41
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neemaalright cool thanks11:45
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neemaim moving over from OS X11:45
neemaso i know a little about the *nixes11:45
neemabut not too much11:45
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orugohey blissex11:45
naliothneema: keep in mind that a lot of *nix usability is taken away by NetInfo in OSX11:45
orugosorry what did you say about top or htop?11:45
neemareally?11:45
neemanalioth: explain pls :)11:46
orugoi mean in MANDRAKE theres an applet (i dont know if its an apllet) who can kill your apps11:46
orugolike closing procces in winxp or something11:46
naliothneema: several *nix commands and functions are the responsibility of the NetInfo system in OSX11:46
naliothorugo: it's called "xkill" and it is here, too11:47
orugoi like blackbox too11:47
orugoright11:47
orugois here?11:47
orugoin the package manager i couldnt find it11:47
Blissexneema: there is a nice site that lists all the desktop environments and window managers, http://WWW.XWinMan.org/ (IIRC)11:47
orugoalguien halba espaol?11:48
Blissexneema: but KDE is pretty good as a default.11:48
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neemacool thx11:48
nalioth!es11:48
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:48
neemayea, i was gonna ask... did i make a good choice pickin ubuntu/kubuntu as my first distro?11:48
Blissexorugo: there are many ''kill process'' apps, the simplest are 'top' or 'htop' in a console.11:49
naliothneema: you ask in #kubuntu? what answer would you like?11:49
Blissexneema: yes, it is very much oriented to people like you.11:49
orugoyes but i want xkill if i can cause its really simple and fast11:49
Blissexnalioth: it could be that instead Kubuntu were a server oriented distro, or an embedded distro.11:49
Blissexorugo: there is a process killer that is a modified version of Doom: processes are repesented by monsters that walk around, and you kill a process by shooting it.11:50
orugoneema: kubuntu is the best for "GRAPHIC" users (like me for example)11:50
naliothorugo: alt-f2, and type xkill in the box11:50
neemais anyone running PPC?11:50
orugoblissex: GOOD!!! ahaha11:50
Blissexorugo: wait a second for a link... They have screenshots.11:50
orugonalioth: IT WORKS! tks a lot11:50
orugoblissex: good, tks!!11:51
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naliothneema: yes we are11:51
neemawould ppl recommend installing xfce on kubuntu?11:51
neemais it worth checkin out?11:51
orugoneema: im a newbie... but i didnt like xfce11:52
Blissexneema: nahhh, unless your PC is quite small.11:52
jrattner1whats the difference between installing KDE from synaptic or kubuntu11:52
orugokubuntu haven't gnome by default.. haha11:52
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orugomaybe using kubuntu is more "natural" that using ubuntu with kde. i dont know11:52
neemaBlissex: PPC here :), running my G4 iBook11:53
corujaneema: do you know that you can install several window managers at the same time to have them at your disposal? so install some and simply take a look :)11:53
orugohey what about CDE?11:53
Blissexorugo: http://slashdot.org/articles/99/10/20/1110242.shtml11:53
orugoblissex: tks a lot!!!!!11:54
neemacoruja: oh sweet11:54
neemaalright - how do i install xfce11:54
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orugoxfce is not good for me..11:55
Blissexneema: there is a single package that installs everything...11:55
orugomaybe you should try something like blackbox11:55
Blissexneema: try 'apt-cache search xfce' for a list of likely names :-)11:55
orugohey11:56
orugotuxracer needs a fast video card right?11:56
orugohaha11:56
Blissexneema: for a small PC with KDE, I have started writing some suggestions here: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxKDE.html towards the end11:56
orugoit sucks on my 32mb onboard11:56
Blissexorugo: it needs 3D acceleration, not a particularly fast card. But 3D acceleration is often a pain to setup.11:56
orugohaha11:57
orugowell11:57
orugoi cant play it :(11:57
orugoneema: enlightment rulez11:57
orugotoo11:57
orugoreally fast ton slows pc11:57
neemawhoa enlightment looks crazy, a little too crazy for me thoguh11:59
neemalol11:59
orugoahhaa11:59
[LethAL] I don't like the unfinished graphics of it...11:59
orugoenlightment is for artists maybe ahah11:59
[LethAL] How do I make a program/script run on lgoin?11:59
[LethAL] login*11:59
orugooh12:00
orugoi dont know and i wanted to do that before12:00
orugohaha12:00
orugo:(12:00
orugo(im a newbie)12:00
[LethAL] lol12:00
logikalhow do i change packet size when im pinging?12:00
[LethAL] I'm moving from Gnome12:00
orugo(and i speak a very poor enlglish)12:00
[LethAL] -s packetsize12:01
neemaalright well thanks for the help and info everyone12:01
neemaill be back later on12:01
neemapeace12:01
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logikalthx12:01
[LethAL] np :)12:02

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