[12:02] hmm, this is not good. I can't see a thing in X. None of the windows refresh properly [12:02] <\sh> ajmitch: and from my kernel config I can see only that oprofile (kernel profiling) is compiled as module... === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:03] <\sh> anyways -EOFFTOBED [12:03] <\sh> good night folks :) cu tomorrow^Wlater this day *grmpf* [12:04] \sh_away: good night [12:05] REVU upload in 3....2...1..or whenever this Prelink stops [12:06] Kyral: nice, I'll try look at it tommorow, I think I'm oing to bed now. work tommorow and it's alrady past midnight :) [12:06] lol okay [12:06] I'm willing to bet there will be some technical error with the package === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:06] thanks, I'll probably play around with oprofile again later. Possibly in a few weeks/months. [12:06] Kyral: I'm also working on some related specs, I'll ping you up when I have them ready for feedback :) [12:07] wBryce: thank you for bringing this up, was very interesting [12:08] no problems. I'll be back next time. (even if I just compile my own kernel and oprofile version). === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:08] wBryce: cool, btw - what's your relation to lifeless ? [12:08] ;-) [12:08] ah, much better in the console :) [12:08] I know him from Dunedin. [12:09] From university. [12:10] oh, you just saved me another google query :) [12:11] night all, hitting bed [12:11] goodnight as well [12:11] good night, sivang [12:11] night tritium === wBryce [n=bryce@kampjes.demon.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:13] hi [12:16] hmm, another dunedin person then :) [12:17] hmm, the * wildcard is valid in a hosts.allow file right... [12:19] I got an upload that has been rejected because "Rejected: Unknown distribution `unstable'. [12:19] " shall I upload a new one to REVU? [12:19] with breezy instead? [12:19] yes [12:19] new version or same version? [12:19] brb reboot === hub should file a bug against debian-el to use the right distro names in Ubuntu :-) === Kyral [n=Linux@128.153.197.196] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] and my crusade to completely restrict SSH access to my box to only the computer labs continues [12:26] Kyral: iptables [12:26] I do [12:26] I also just edited my /etc/hosts.deny and hosts.allow to also deny access to things outside the labs IPBlock :D [12:27] deny has "ALL: ALL" and allow has "ALL: " [12:27] but what takes precedence... === dougsk [n=dougsk@65.61.112.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:29] I basically want to set up IPTables and the hosts files to deny any incoming connection except SSH connections coming from the labs IPBlock... [12:31] order is allow, deny [12:31] I actually meant if IPTables comes into effect first or if the hosts files do [12:31] ajmitch: so shall bump the version to change the distribution? [12:31] iptables does, of course [12:31] hub: no need [12:31] ah === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] I wish there was an easy configurer for IPTables.. [12:33] ajmitch: ok. thx. upload to REVU again then [12:33] Kyral, there is [12:34] Kyral, firestarter [12:34] psh, firestarter === ajmitch would call vim a 'simple interface' for iptables :) [12:34] I just want something that helps me make rules and then puts them in iptables. Not something that sits on my system tray [12:34] and emacs > vim [12:36] gn8 everybody [12:37] Kyral: and emacs is definetly bigger than vim... (but not better ;P ) [12:37] lookie what I found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IptablesHowTo?highlight=%28IPTables%29 === LaserJock [n=icechat5@ppp-69-239-136-165.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sebest [n=sebest@224.245.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] LaserJock: am now [12:41] oh, heah cool [12:41] I joined the ghemical-devel list so I saw your latest emails [12:42] ah [12:42] I was looking at the ghemical source package and had a question [12:42] It depends on mopac7 right? [12:43] how does it take to have a newly uploaded package to be valid on launchpad? [12:43] ghemical itself doesn't anymore, libghemical can (it does on Ubuntu, bot not on Debian right now) [12:43] "Invalid source package name enblend" [12:43] but enblend has been uploaded now to the universe [12:43] okay stupid question. How do I save my current IPTables rules to enable on startup? [12:44] azeem: ok but I see that ghemical has mopac as a dependency and I saw in the debian/rules it has --enable-mpqc [12:45] azeem: so does it also need --enable-mopac7 also? [12:45] hi azeem [12:45] LaserJock: hrm, that --enable-mpqc is bogus [12:45] LaserJock: if you run ./configure --help in the ghemical source, you will see that there is no such option (anymore) [12:45] ajmitch: hi [12:45] LaserJock: I forgot to remove it when libghemical arrived [12:46] azeem: ok, I was wondering, becaus I understood that that stuff was moved to libghemical. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing somethin [12:46] nah, thanks for pointing that out :) [12:49] azeem: anything to help ;-) I'm not really a programmer, just an interested user [12:51] I am trying to get some of the people in my department to move from Spartan to ghemical for a lot of our simple computational stuff [12:52] ajmitch: my package lost his "advocates" :-( [12:52] LaserJock: cool [12:53] LaserJock: I am doing more ab-initio stuff with very small molecules, so ghemical is of limited use to my work right now [12:54] azeem: I use it a lot for setting up Gaussian calculations. Of most interest to me is being able to quickly create a molecule that has a geometry pretty close to the abinitio one [12:55] azeem: is use the MM or PM3 [12:55] azeem: however, I think it has some potential for some of our teaching labs because it is significantly cheaper than Spartan ;-) [12:56] heh :) [12:56] are you using it as a virtualization tool as well? [12:56] eh, visualization [12:56] azeem: oh yeah. It is good for that [12:57] booyah [12:57] locked down my system ENTIRELY [12:57] azeem: although I usually do a final version using something else === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-123-43.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] LaserJock: I'm using molekel for that mostly, but it's non-free unfortunately, and not maintained anymore === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] azeem: so far it is the package that is closest to my goal of just needing 1 program that takes care of all my computational needs [12:59] but I am just a physical chemist and don't do much hard core theoretical stuff so maybe my needs aren't so much ;-) === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb02.london.02.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:11] yo Mez [01:12] yo [01:12] sup === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] not much [01:16] Backports slowing down as Breezy gets closer? [01:23] hi Mez [01:25] Heya Mez [01:26] LaserJock: Are you still pushing poor azeem? :-) [01:26] hey bddebian mind looking at my dcbu package on REVU and explaining what the Linda error means? [01:27] pushing? [01:27] azeem: Trying to get his mopac7 stuff working :-) [01:27] but it's working in Ubuntu, no? [01:28] I'm currently waiting on upstream to put it into Debian [01:28] Didn't sound like it. I built it in but sounded like it had some bugs? [01:30] Kyral: I don't know for sure. You could try 1.0-0ubuntu1 as a version? [01:30] bddebian, I think it may not like that I appended "~beta" to every version previous to this (look at the changelog) === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-170-131.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] bddebian: sorry was away for a while. No, I'm being good to azeem ;-) [01:40] LaserJock: I was just kidding :-) [01:43] do you guys know of anybody working on Scigraphica? === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb04.london.02.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] lo [02:03] I don't find the page where they say were to upload the files [02:03] s/upload the files/announce the uploaded file to Debian/ [02:04] we don't generally announce the uploads, although you can inform the utnubu list if you wish [02:05] ajmitch: anounce to debian if they want to pick the package [02:05] I thought we did it at one point [02:09] depends, do you want to maintain the package yourself in debian? [02:10] I'm not a Debian developer [02:10] so.... [02:11] so? [02:11] you can still maintain in debian if you have a sponsor [02:14] why not === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-071-088.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb04.london.02.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] so... what happens once Breezy comes out? Is Universe totally frozen and all work is done for Dapper? [02:48] yes [02:49] Does that mean we have to Dist-Upgrade to Dapper immediately? [02:49] Of course :-) [02:49] does that mean its a good idea/ [02:49] nope. [02:49] can you gimme a month [02:49] I'd like to see what a stable OS looks like for a while ;P [02:50] will it be ok to use a Dapper pbuilder environment to start with? [02:50] I should really get around making a pbuilder env [02:51] although I have no clue why I should [02:51] for me just learning to do packaging, pbuilder rocks [02:52] well, I'm just learning too, and I don't understand why I can't just keep doing my work in a workspace dir in ~ [02:53] well, for me, I might have installed deps already and I won't catch that I miss putting somethin in the control file or something like that [02:53] I use a script I found in the DNMG [02:54] what script? [02:54] uhh.... [02:54] pbuilder is useful for having an unstable environment, such as dapper, or what was breezy to build in while running a stable environemt for day to day use... it basically means if something breaks in dapper, it doesnt affect you, just you're pbuilder... and that usually just means you cant build a few things. [02:54] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-dreq.en.html [02:54] its in there [02:55] Mez: ohh, yeah that too ;-) [02:55] :P [02:56] Kyral, are you on about dh_make? [02:56] yah [02:56] I'm learning via the New Maintainers Guide right now [02:56] :) [02:56] yeah, dh_make is good, but only for new packages [02:56] Yah I've found that out the hard way... [02:57] :P [02:57] Actually has anyone fixed gDesklets yet? [02:57] I know it was on the FTBFS list... [02:57] the DNMG is a good start, but theres no better tutor than experience... get a motu to check over packages or use REVU) and you'll get a load of help === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === wickedpuppy [n=wickedpu@cm25.epsilon165.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] Gotta switch machines, bbiab === slomo_ [n=slomo@p5487F8AB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] are the list of files for UniverseFTBFS and UniversePackageWithoutDesktopFile created by hand? === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] evening MOTUs! [04:04] hey all [04:04] mind taking a look at something for me that is completely ubuntu unrelated? just because you are such nice guys :) [04:05] http://braam.sytes.net/~hp/fullmoon.png <--- design for a website I need to do, I just finished it, and I wondered if it doesn't look all that aweful [04:05] it's a tad offtopic, I know, I hope you can forgive me :) === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:10] TMM: looks neat to me [04:10] bmonty, cool, thanks, then I think I'll just stick to this [04:11] TMM: only thing I would say is that it might take awhile to load on a slow connection === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] hiya bddebian [04:12] gah, this FTBFS wiki is a *huge* PITA to update === Am|NickTaken [i=travis@AC98B338.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] bmonty, I know... it won't scale very well either... I'm stuck with this though :( [04:13] yeah, I was wondering how the FTBFS pages were created [04:13] Heya LaserJock [04:13] bmonty: Aye [04:13] hey bddebian [04:13] bddebian, is the libofx stuff fixed yet? [04:13] sweet, just got a call from my bro...time to play some Halo 2 :) [04:14] hi [04:14] Heya ajmitch [04:14] bipolar: Fixed? What's wrong with it? [04:14] <\sh> re - moins [04:14] Heya \sh [04:14] <\sh> bah...less then 4h sleep [04:15] bddebian, file conflicts between libofx2 and libofx-dev [04:15] <\sh> bipolar: which version of the package? [04:15] <\sh> libofx_0.8.0-3ubuntu6.dsc [04:15] let me try again. maybe I had an old one... [04:15] bmonty, thanks [04:15] <\sh> should be fixed [04:16] \sh, libofx? not libofx2? [04:16] <\sh> bipolar: libofx is the source package [04:16] ok [04:16] So Dapper repos will open as soon as Breezy goes stable? === sander [i=sander@062016176209.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] <\sh> we hope so... [04:17] I think it's fixed. [04:18] yeah, it's fixed. must have been fixed this afternoon. [04:18] Fucking lyx. It's builds fine in pbuilder but not locally so I can't test my changes. :-( [04:19] is it possible to create a script for the FTBFS wiki pages? [04:19] <\sh> bddebian: ? [04:19] <\sh> bddebian: what does it mean "not locally" grap the packages and install it ;) [04:19] <\sh> bipolar: no yesterday ;) [04:20] <\sh> ogra: u didn't sleep as I told you ;) [04:20] \sh: dpkg-buildpackage pukes [04:21] \sh, on my way to bed [04:21] <\sh> bddebian: dpkg-buildpackage has some problems sometimes [04:21] <\sh> ogra: I wondered, when I saw your uploads ;) [04:21] :) [04:22] <\sh> ogra: think u should move to .au ;) [04:22] YES ! :) [04:22] <\sh> -3 DAYS [04:22] yes :/ [04:23] :-) [04:23] \sh: Aye, so how would I test it? I guess I could try debuild but the damn thing takes 2 hours to build :-( [04:23] <\sh> and when Breezy is out, I'll apply for a alcohol withdrawal treatment (sp?) [04:24] heh [04:24] <\sh> bddebian: pbuilder? and install the package [04:24] night all [04:24] <\sh> ogra: good night sleep well friend [04:24] :) [04:25] <\sh> bddebian: or send me your patches and I let lyx building while I'm in the office [04:25] \sh: I did a pbuilder build but that doesn't save the .debs does it? [04:25] Night ogra [04:25] <\sh> dooglus: of course /var/spool/pbuilder/result/ [04:26] <\sh> aeh sorry /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ [04:26] <\sh> bddebian: that is [04:26] <\sh> not dooglus [04:27] heh [04:27] <\sh> too early in the morning [04:27] Doh, what an idiot. I was looking in /var/cache/pbuilder/build/ :-( [04:28] <\sh> bddebian: I have here 2 pbuilder running, and everything is in my homedir ;) [04:29] <\sh> bddebian: I'll write a nice howto, how you deal with one two three pbuilders at the same time very niceley, for dapper :) [04:29] Heh. [04:29] Step 1) Get a very fast ass machine ;-) [04:29] <\sh> I'll think I do as well some work on the backports front for dapper === ajmitch thinks he'll sit on the sidelines for dapper [04:30] ajmitch: No freakin' way :-) [04:30] <\sh> bddebian: HARHAR...you don't need it...think I'll bring my working laptop to UBZ so everybody can see, how the real hacks are working ;) hmm...for that i have to remove the tobacco, the dust and everything else which doesn't belong in a laptop somehow [04:31] heh [04:31] bddebian: too late :P [04:34] bddebian: besides, I don't want to intrude on the territory of the #1 bug fixer [04:35] Hmm, well the .deb has /usr/share/mime/packages/lyx.xml but it didn't seem to install it :-( [04:35] you checked it with dpkg-deb? [04:35] Yep [04:35] ajmitch: Who is the #1 bugfixer, bmonty ? :-_) [04:36] BddebianIsAGod [04:36] <\sh> just heard "Down Under" from Men At Work :) [04:37] Heh [04:37] ajmitch: No he isn't, ask \sh now. He has changed his tune. ;-P [04:37] <\sh> bddebian: No :) I didn't I just said, that I don't believe in God that's why I left the church ;) [04:38] ajmitch: I added it to lyx-common.install too but that was failing saying it couldn't find lyx.xml [04:38] right [04:39] right what? === ajmitch sees that trulux decides to resurface now that someone is asking about ubuntu hardened :P [04:39] heh [04:40] and of course he wants to get a bounty for selinux work.. === ajmitch sighs [04:41] I just realized something === ajmitch suppresses rants [04:42] ah rant anyway ajmitch, it should be interesting [04:42] for most Ubuntu Users, the 13th means Upgrade to Breezy day [04:42] Burgundavia: nah, I'd rather just sit back, be bitter, & mope [04:42] but for MOTUs (and MOTUs In Training) its Upgrade to Dapper days [04:42] <\sh> Kyral: no [04:43] nah [04:43] eh? [04:43] we wait a week or so [04:43] <\sh> Kyral: dapper needs some love first, before we can update [04:43] whew good :D [04:43] Would someone mind looking at this: http://www2.bddebian.com:8000/packages/ubuntu/lyx/lyx_1.3.6-1ubuntu4.debdiff [04:43] <\sh> Kyral: and it's adviced to do your first steps towards dapper in a chroot ;) [04:43] So who is gonna be at UBZ on the 30th? [04:43] To see what I'm missing? === ajmitch will be at UBZ === \sh too [04:44] I will be :D === ajmitch upgraded to breezy just before UDU [04:44] Just for Ubuntu Love, 'cause I have class the rest of the week [04:44] <\sh> diff -u lyx-1.3.6/debian/lyx-common.install lyx-1.3.6/debian/lyx-common.install [04:44] <\sh> --- lyx-1.3.6/debian/lyx-common.install [04:44] <\sh> +++ lyx-1.3.6/debian/lyx-common.install [04:44] <\sh> @@ -6 +5,0 @@ [04:44] <\sh> - [04:44] <\sh> only in patch2: [04:44] <\sh> unchanged: [04:44] <\sh> ajmitch: I updated in the middle of the xorg trans dance [04:44] I guess I'll have to try & have a fully functioning SELinux system by UBZ then to show off [04:45] I don't have a laptop :( [04:45] But I'll just be there :D === ajmitch has 1 usable laptop [04:45] Look for the idiot in a Clarkson T-Shirt === \sh needs a wlan card for his nc6000...think I'll borrow a simple prism pcmcia [04:45] Kyral: what school are you at? [04:46] Clarkson ;P [04:46] \sh: I'll bring a couple of cards [04:46] Kyral: doesn't tell me much :P [04:46] www.clarkson.edu [04:46] <\sh> ajmitch: well...I'll bring two laptops ;) [04:46] CS major? :) [04:46] Bingo [04:46] \sh: no point me bringing 2 [04:46] <\sh> ajmitch: the r200 and the nc6000 ;) [04:46] Sopomore [04:47] wiki.ubuntu.com/ChrisPeterman [04:47] since the old laptop is getting progressively more stuffed [04:47] ajmitch: Don't give me that sob story, I still have one sitting here.. ;-P [04:48] battery latch is broken now, so I'll need to tape or glue the battery in :) [04:48] bddebian: it doesn't get used much now, for good reasons [04:48] \sh: So what did I miss there? [04:49] So yah if you see me come up and say hi ;D [04:49] What usually happens at Ubuntu Love Days anyway [04:49] <\sh> bddebian: u said u added this file lyx.xml to lyx-common.install [04:49] dunno [04:49] since we didn't have one at UDU [04:49] lol [04:49] <\sh> Kyral: well...I wonder what will happen on 31st ;) [04:49] we'll find out when we get there [04:49] I assume a bunch of free stuff [04:50] eh? [04:50] why would you assume free stuff? [04:50] Dunno [04:50] I'm hoping [04:50] I'm a college student. Free stuff drives my life [04:50] \sh: I took it back out after I was getting that error. Check the funkiness of debian/rules [04:50] you might pick up a free ubuntu cd if you're lucky [04:51] bddebian: ask bob2 [04:51] \sh I won't be able to stay past Ubuntu Love. I have classes [04:51] ajmitch: Ask him what? [04:51] bddebian: you're having fun with lyx, right? [04:52] <\sh> bddebian: hmmm... [04:52] you do realise that bob2 is a lyx co-maintainer? [04:52] ajmitch: No, I didn't know that [04:52] you do now ;) [04:53] and I saw him active on irc 3 minutes ago === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral yawns === bob2 [n=rob@crumbs.ertius.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:55] yo? [04:55] I'll prolly stay in Breezy for a couple months and help out the Backports team before going to Dapper [04:56] <\sh> moins bob2 :) [04:56] oh, btw [04:56] where are people supposed to get support for backport problems? [04:56] do you guys have a user support list/bug tracker? [04:56] UbuntuForums [04:57] bob2: Can you look at this: http://www2.bddebian.com:8000/packages/ubuntu/lyx/lyx_1.3.6-1ubuntu4.debdiff ? [04:57] the forums is all? seriously? [04:57] bob2: /usr/share/mime/packages/lyx.xml shows in lyx-common.deb but isn't getting installed? [04:58] <\sh> bob2: ubuntu-backports ml [04:58] bddebian: how can it be in the package but not be installed? [04:58] hey bob2 [04:58] bob2: You tell me :-) [04:58] also, should I be bothered that you guys are up to 1ubuntu4 (implying 3 extra uploads) but I have no patches in the Debian BTS? [04:58] bob2: yes, lart them severely [04:59] bddebian: I don't see that in any of the lyx packages; what's that .xml file for? some gnome mime-type thing? [04:59] ubuntu1 was loosen build-depends, ubuntu2 was python depends, ubuntu3 is desktop file.. [05:00] bob2: Yes [05:00] so nothing major for debian :) [05:00] bddebian: (also, careful with your diffs, one of those hunks just delets a blank line) [05:00] ajmitch: ah, right, np then :) [05:00] bddebian: does Debian's gnome support whatever it is? [05:01] bob2: I would assume so but I couldn't say for sure. I run xfce on my Debian box :-) [05:01] ah [05:01] bddebian: debian gnu/hurd? :) [05:01] bddebian: ok, file a bug in the bts and I'll include it in the next upload (sans whitespace changes) [05:01] <\sh> me is taking now a bug piece of shit named vnc4 [05:02] <\sh> bob2: well...looks like bddebian needs it before the 13th ;) [05:02] bob2: will you get us a bzr package in the next day or two for breezy? [05:02] ajmitch: yes [05:02] yay [05:02] ajmitch: 0.1 is apparently today [05:02] yeah [05:03] was talking to lifeless last night about it [05:03] ajmitch: oh, yeah, did you see my reply? [05:03] since sabdfl put in the request [05:03] I think I palmed off blame quite smoothly ;p [05:03] yes, I did [05:03] bob2: you're meant to blame your sponsors [05:03] it's the easy out [05:05] but I can understand that, I think 0.1 was expected by end of september on the roadmap [05:05] bob2: I did not see your reply === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:06] <\sh> why the heck vnc4 has 28MB of source and the orig file on realvnc only 517kB? [05:07] 03:35 < bob2> ajmitch__: lifeless LarstiQ 1.0rc1 didn't exist when I checked on friday evening [05:07] 03:36 < bob2> 0.0.8 didn't build due to the manpage thing, and by the time I fixed it for 0.0.9, I was under the impression 0.1 was imminent [05:07] 03:36 < bob2> (and I wanted something to hit testing) [05:07] <\sh> ah forget it [05:07] :) [05:08] \sh: someone decided to distribute a movie as a manual? [05:08] <\sh> ajmitch: bah [05:08] <\sh> debian doesn't have a running vnc4 as well ;) [05:09] <\sh> let's concentrate on really important stuff like xview? [05:09] yeah [05:10] <\sh> *yawn* [05:11] bob2: thus proving that testing is harmful [05:14] <\sh> wow nice... [05:15] <\sh> an easy fix === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:16] <\sh> but a shitload of handwork for changing /usr/X11R6 to our layout [05:16] <\sh> this is a nono before I had my first cup of coffee.. [05:16] sed it? [05:16] Heh [05:16] Heya tritium [05:17] hi there bddebian [05:17] hello tritium [05:17] <\sh> ajmitch: something like this, yeah...but I'll postpone it to 5:45 UTC [05:17] lifeless: testing is something that happens to other people [05:17] \sh: first coffee or first beer? :) [05:17] so what's causing the odd behavior in X today? [05:17] tritium: what 'odd behaviour'? [05:17] <\sh> that's when I'm sitting at my desk and have my first cup of coffee [05:17] bob2: 'testing the suite' [05:18] <\sh> ajmitch: come on...it's monday here and I have to work... [05:18] ajmitch: not refreshing/updating windows properly [05:18] \sh: did you not just go to bed ? [05:18] ajmitch: nalioth mentioned that others have been asking in #ubuntu [05:18] <\sh> lifeless: I woke up after 3h and37 minutes [05:18] <\sh> lifeless: of sleep [05:18] I'm not the only one experiencing this problem [05:19] tritium: only possible thing I see is a new gtk+ upload from yesterday [05:19] and that was only a minor patch [05:20] don't know [05:21] Good night MOTU Team [05:21] I tried something crazy tonite: packaging gimpshop [05:21] the problem is that the package does not install [05:22] then you install the bits yourself [05:24] GNight Kyral [05:30] \sh: ouch [05:31] <\sh> lifeless: well...yes I'm getting old...don't need much sleep anymore ;) [05:31] \sh: I thought that was the other way around ! [05:31] babies - no sleep [05:31] 90 year old men - asleep in the road in thei pyjamas [05:32] <\sh> nah...babies are sleeping most of the day...but not when you sleep ;) [05:32] ajmitch: which gtk+ package are you referring to? [05:33] <\sh> and regarding me...well...30 years in future, I think I'll need only 1h of sleep, because the rest of the day I'm waiting for Mr. Death ;) [05:37] <\sh> and now it's time for a shower [05:37] tritium: gtk+ === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:37] hi jsgotangco [05:37] hey ajmitch [05:39] ajmitch: I'd check breezy-changes if I could use my browser, but I can't. [05:44] heh [05:44] :( [05:45] are bugs filed? [05:45] please make sure they get filed ASAP, with a decent severity [05:47] I don't know. I'm trying to get links2 working so I can check bugzilla [05:49] that's why you have that winXP install still, right? ;) [05:49] true enough [05:50] i've tried a preview of vmware on my windows partition and ubuntu is still snappy at 128MB [05:51] I don't see it in recent bugs [05:51] thanks for checking, ajmitch [05:51] so youre stuck in irssi? [05:52] yeah, on linux I am. ajmitch reminded me that I still have XP, or I can use my wife's iMac === ajmitch is stuck on XP here at work [05:54] and I use irssi anyway :) [05:54] ajmitch, you have to code php on Windows? [05:55] whats wrong with that? [05:55] Burgundavia: that is correct [05:55] eww :) [05:55] the server is linux though [05:55] but I need IE to test on === ajmitch shudders [05:56] mwuhahaha [05:56] <\sh> wow...that was good [05:56] \sh: coffee? ;) [05:56] <\sh> shower === tritium missed the Santana concert due to rain [05:57] <\sh> now I'm not feeling like an old fart of 65 anymore, no, now I'm feeling like an old fart of 60 ,-) [05:57] Heh === ajmitch would probably feel better if he were hit by a bus [05:57] Watch the "old man" comments ;-P [05:58] bddebian: get over it [05:58] <\sh> bddebian: I think we're the same age range, right? ,-) [05:58] bddebian: you're probably not the oldest one here [05:59] <\sh> Well....God, God Son and the Holy Ghost [05:59] <\sh> Bddebian, \sh and Ogra ;) [05:59] \sh: 35 [05:59] <\sh> bddebian: yeah...same age...34 here and ogra is 35 ;) === jsgotangco pays his respects [06:00] sometimes ogra looks 45, if he hasn't had much sleep ;) === jsgotangco hides [06:00] hopefully he'll be less corpse-like at UBZ [06:00] yeah ogra has been loaded lately [06:00] the x-s-s thing made it worse [06:00] loaded? he's been doing a huge amount of work [06:01] <\sh> he looked really bad, well I'll see him next weekend... [06:01] hope he's not burning out [06:01] we'll have to pour a few beers into him to revive him :) [06:02] a shame that bddebian isn't going to be at UBZ [06:02] <\sh> jsgotangco: well...we all are a bit burned out, but actually, volunteers have the possibility to retreat for some days/weeks/months [06:02] otherwise we could do a beer for each package uploaded or bug squashed ;) [06:02] \sh: we can? [06:03] \sh, we currently have a choice to fade away, ogra doesn't have that luxury atm [06:03] <\sh> jsgotangco: yeah... [06:03] <\sh> ajmitch: why not? [06:03] \sh: got to prepare for UBZ [06:03] <\sh> ajmitch: yesterday I made a little statistic about my upload behaviour [06:04] <\sh> and august was the poorest === ajmitch hardly uploaded anything to breezy compared to everyone else [06:04] what, only 100 packages in august? [06:04] <\sh> ajmitch: and that was my burned out phase [06:04] if only there was a UITD (Ubuntu In The Desert) i could come :-) [06:04] <\sh> ajmitch: come on..be serious [06:04] LaserJock: me too! Where are you? [06:04] Reno, Nevada [06:04] ajmitch: Why so you could laugh at me? :-) [06:04] LaserJock, say like in Egypt? [06:05] LaserJock: Albuquerque, NM here [06:05] We need UDLV [06:05] \sh: sorry, it was 30 packages in august [06:05] Sadly UBZ is probably the closest it will ever get to me [06:05] UDLV would be good [06:05]